* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] CHICO IS HERE. SO I CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER. SO PLEASE STAND UP BEFORE THE [1. Present and Discuss Recommendations for the Hotel Fund's Financial Sustainability. ] ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER ONE, DISCUSS THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE HOTEL FUNDS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BILL HOLLY. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. THE AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT IS A FOLLOW-UP TO OUR OCTOBER 27TH DISCUSSION ON THE HOTEL'S FUNDS AND FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY. AS A QUICK REFRESHER STAFF BROUGHT FORWARD A FINANCIAL PROJECTION THAT SHOWS THE IMPACTS OF COVID-19 WE'RE GOING TO CAUSE THE HOTEL FUND TO DROP BELOW THE 25% RESERVE REQUIREMENT DURING FISCAL YEAR 2022. SO, UH, THE STAFF PROVIDED AN OVERVIEW OF THE 16 PROGRAMS, UH, AND THAT FUND, THOSE WERE THE MAJOR EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES AND SAW GUIDANCE FROM COUNCIL ON LONG-TERM FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY GUIDANCE WAS TO MAINTAIN THE GOLD STANDARD AND ALL THE HOTEL FUNDS, UH, CONSIDER, UH, COST SAVING OPPORTUNITIES TO LOW HANGING FRUIT PROVIDED. THEY DID NOT COMPROMISE THAT GOLD STANDARD POSITION OURSELVES TO BE READY FOR THE END OF THE PANDEMIC, KEEP ADDISON'S BRAND STRONG AND TO CONSIDER FINANCIAL TRANSFERS, UH, IN FUTURE FISCAL YEARS TO MAINTAIN THE RESERVE REQUIREMENTS. SO, UH, GIVEN THAT GUIDANCE, THE TOWN'S PROGRAMS THAT, THAT WE DISCUSSED RELATED TO MARKETING HOTEL, SUPPORT INCENTIVES, HOTEL INCENTIVES, TOURISM IN THE ARTS OR PROGRAMS THAT REALLY HAVE A HIGH RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT. AND WE FELT CONTRIBUTE NOT ONLY TO THE HOTEL FUND, BUT ALSO TO THE ADDISON BRAND AND TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE LOCAL ECONOMY AS A WHOLE. SOME STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING ANY, ANY CHANGES TO THOSE PARTICULAR FUNDS. THERE'S A SMALL ADMINISTRATIVE COMPONENT. AND AS WITH ALL PROGRAMS, STAFF WILL BE VERY DILIGENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WISELY EXPENDED THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE NOW, NO RECOMMENDATIONS AT THIS POINT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THOSE, THOSE PARTICULAR PROGRAMS. SO, UH, THE NEXT GROUP OF PROGRAMS RELATED TO SPECIAL EVENTS, AND AGAIN, WE WERE GIVEN THE EXPECTATION OF LET'S MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN THE GOLD STANDARD. SO JASMINE LEE IS GOING TO COME BACK, UH, AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, SHE ALWAYS DOES AND GIVE HER A PREVIEW OF THE EVENTS COMING UP IN FISCAL YEAR 2021. SO SHE WILL HAVE, AGAIN, SOME LOW-HANGING FRUIT TYPE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL NOT CHANGE THE GOLD STANDARDS. IT WILL NOT FROM A CUSTOMER'S POINT OF VIEW, THEY WON'T SEE ANY KIND OF DIFFERENCE IN THAT, BUT MAY CONTRIBUTE TO A SAVINGS THAT, THAT BENEFIT THE FONDANT LONG TERM. THE DISCUSSION WAS ALSO HELD ABOUT THE CONFERENCE CENTER AND WHAT, WHAT WE DO THERE. THAT'S A VERY COMPLEX, UH, PROCESS. THERE'LL BE MULTIPLE OPTIONS. SO STAFF WILL COME FORWARD WITH A, A SEPARATE WORKSHOP ITEM AGAIN AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. SO WE CAN FULLY DISCUSS AND VET THAT OUT IN ADVANCE OF THE FISCAL YEAR, 2022 BUDGET PROCESS. SO REALLY WHAT THAT LEAVES US IS THAT, UH, WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR, 2022 PROCESS TO DO SOME INNER FUND TRANSFERS. AND, AND THE MAIN ONE BEING THAT THERE'S A $1.1 MILLION EXPENSE THAT THE HOTEL FUNDING OCCURRED, UH, RECENTLY RELATED TO THE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK FOUNTAINS. SO IF THE, IF ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND REIMBURSES, THE HOTEL FUND, THAT WOULD PUT THAT $1.1 MILLION INTO THAT FUND AND WOULD EXTEND THE TIME THAT WE THINK THAT, UH, WE WOULD BEFORE WE REACHED THAT 25% RESERVE, UH, MINIMUM BY 18, ADDITIONAL MONTHS. SO THAT BUYS US A YEAR AND A HALF. IT GIVES US A LOT OF TIME TO MOVE, TO SEE WHAT IS OCCURRING WITH THE PANDEMIC WITH COVID ARE THINGS GETTING BACK TO NORMAL AND PEOPLE TRAVELING AS THE HOT FUND REVENUE COMING BACK. AND IF IT'S NOT, WE CAN THEN TAKE MORE AGGRESSIVE MEASURES TO DO OTHER THINGS WITHIN THAT POND THAT ADVISE US, IT BUYS US TIME. IN THAT REGARD, THERE ARE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS WE CAN DO IN THAT FONT. I THINK IT WAS $230,000 FOR [00:05:01] ADDISON CIRCLE PART FROM MAINTENANCE THAT COULD BE MOVED TO A DIFFERENT FONT. SO THERE MAY BE EXPENSES THAT ARE MOVED OUT OF THAT FUND IN THE FORM OF A TRANSFER OR MONEY. THAT'S MOVED INTO THAT BOND IN THE FORM OF TRANSFER THAT WE CAN DISCUSS WITH THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET, BECAUSE BY THEN WE'LL HAVE SIX ADDITIONAL MONTHS OF WHAT'S GOING ON IS THE PANDEMIC, IS THE VACCINE GOOD? ARE THINGS WORKING? ARE THINGS BACK TO NORMAL IS HOT TAX RECOVERING, OR IF IT'S NOT, WE CAN ADJUST. UH, I THINK WE STILL HAVE TIME. AND AGAIN, STAFF WANTED TO COME TO YOU EARLY AS WE SAW THIS HAPPENING TO GET THAT DIRECTION TO MAKE YOU AWARE, BUT, UH, THE CAFFER A WALL IS NOT OUT. AND, UH, IT'LL BE A COUPLE OF MONTHS. IT'S, IT'S LOOKING AS IF THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, UNBALANCING THE HOTEL UPON WHICH ALL OF A SUDDEN BENEFICIAL HUNTERS EXTEND THAT, UH, IF WE HAVE SOME DIFFICULTIES. SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS OR, OR, UH, UH, AN UPDATE AGAIN, WE'LL MAINTAIN THE GOLD STANDARD, UH, WE'LL PICK THE LOW HANGING FRUIT AND PRESERVE THAT BOND. WE WILL COME BACK THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET PROCESS WITH, UH, NEW DATA, UH, MORE ADVANCED DATA AND HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO TRANSFERS INTO AND OUT OF THAT POND, UH, TO, TO HELP ALONG. AND HE DID IT THROUGH THIS DIFFICULT PERIOD. WHEN YOU SAY 18 MONTHS, IS THAT I'M ASSUMING THAT IS THIS FISCAL YEAR AND HALF OF NEXT YEAR IS TOILET, CORRECT? 18 ADDITIONAL MONTHS. IF YOU RECALL, IT'S IN 2022, THAT WILL DROP BELOW THAT. SO WE'RE GOOD FOR 2021. IT'S REALLY DURING 2022. SO IT'S AN 18 ADDITIONAL MONTHS, SO, OKAY. 30 MONTHS OR SO BEFORE WE DROPPED BELOW THAT LEVEL, IF WE DO THAT, AND THEN AGAIN, IF THE HOT REVENUE COMES UP, THEN THERE'S CHANGES OR IF WE MAKE OTHER ADJUSTMENTS DOWN AND EXPENDITURES, SO WE HAVE SOME, WE HAVE SOME BREATHING ROOM, BUT AGAIN, WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BRING THIS EARLY ON ABOUT IT SO THAT WE DIDN'T GET TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD AND HAVE TO MAKE MORE TRAGIC ADJUSTMENTS AS THIS STUFF PLAYS OUT. WELL, IT DID COME IN RECOGNIZING THAT THE, I HAVE FUN. THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND IS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THAT SEEMS APPROPRIATE, BUT YOU HAVE SUCH A, WE HAVE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT BALANCE OF THE GENERAL FUND AND THE, IF THEY HAPPENED TO CHECK IT, IT'S ONLY LIKE 5.6 MILLION, WHICH FOR PROJECTS REALLY, ISN'T SUCH A BIG BALANCE. I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT WHEN IT COMES UP DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND I RECOGNIZE IT'S NOT FOR DECISION NOW THAT I WOULD REALLY QUESTION WHETHER TAKING ALL OF THAT OUT OF THE, INSTEAD OF TAKING FROM THE GENERAL FUND, IT WOULDN'T BE A GOOD IDEA. SO I JUST WANT TO PLANT THAT SEED. THE OTHER CL PLAN IS THAT, UM, AS WE LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR PROPERTY TAXES FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE NEED TO MAKE, KEEP IN MIND, THAT'S ANOTHER NEED FOR THE GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE AS WELL. SO JUST ANOTHER SEAT DIRECTIONS, RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY I THINK TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE GOLD STANDARD. UM, I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON ADDISON AFTER DARK. IS THAT A SPECIAL, ARE WE CONSIDERING THAT A SPECIAL EVENT OR IS THAT JUST UNDER EVENTS? THAT WAS ONE OF HER, UM, IN, IN THAT, IN THAT BROADER CATEGORY. UM, AND JASMINE IS ON THE LINE AND READY TO SPEAK TO THAT. IF WE, WE CAN PULL HER UP, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, WE KNOW WHAT NUMBER SHE'S CALLING. SHE IS ACTUALLY LOGGED IN AND SHE IS SORRY, I HAVEN'T FIXED MY AUDIO. I'M HAVING SOME TROUBLE WITH IT. CAN YOU GUYS CAN HEAR ME? OKAY. OKAY. THERE THAT'S MUCH BETTER. I WAS HAVING SOME HEADPHONES AND TROUBLES. I HEARD THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT ADDISON AFTER DARK, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION. YEAH. HEY JASMINE, THIS IS MARLON. WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS, UM, I KNOW WE'VE GOT SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEN WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER EVENTS. WE, WE DON'T CLASSIFY THEM IN THE TOP TOP TIER WITH SPECIAL EVENTS. AND I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE, WHERE YOU CATEGORIZE, UH, UH, ADDISON AFTER DARK. WOULD THAT BE IN THE TOP TIER OF THE SEC? YEAH, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A SECONDARY CARE. WE GENERALLY GROUP THE THREE MAIN FESTIVALS TOGETHER AS OUR PRIMARY EVENTS. AND THEN ADD SOME AFTER DARK WOULD BE MORE OF A SECONDARY EVENT. IT'S MUCH SMALLER WITH A SMALLER REACH AND MORE OF US SORT OF AN INTRODUCTORY PROGRAM TO BRING PEOPLE OUT WHO MAYBE DON'T COME TO OUR LARGE FESTIVALS TO INTRODUCE THEM TO THE CONCEPT OF AD AS A METHOD OF ITS DESTINATION. [00:10:01] OKAY. UM, YEAH, THE, THE ONLY THOUGHT I HAVE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I LIKE, I LIKED THAT EVENT. I LIKE THE TRUE BEING AFTER DARK. THEY SEEN TRULY SIMILAR TO ME. UM, AND I THINK THAT THEY SEEM PRETTY SIMILAR TO, UH, THE MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS. BUT WHEN I GO TO THOSE EVENTS, IT JUST FEELS MORE LIKE A LOCAL ADDISON EVENT, UM, IN A TOURISM TYPE EVENT. SO, UM, UM, THE ONLY THOUGHT I HAD IS WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER, UM, CUTTING, CUTTING, MAYBE COMBINING THOSE TWO EVENTS TO A ONE, ONE TIME A MONTH OR SOMETHING, AND, AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO, TO HAVE EVENTS WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN FOR A THREE-DAY WEEKEND OR SOMETHING TO STAY AT OUR HOTELS. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US, UH, FIND AN EVENT LIKE THAT. WE HAD THE BIG D BARBECUE BATTLE, UM, A FEW YEARS BACK. UM, AND IF WE, IF WE COULD SOMEHOW GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD CAUSE SOME PEOPLE TO COME IN AND, AND NEED TO, UH, NEED TO BE HERE FOR FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY NIGHT AT ONE OF OUR HOTELS. I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR CORRECTIONS TO STAFF. VERY GOOD. WELL, THANK YOU. I REALLY DON'T HAVE SO MUCH CONCERN A LOT HOTEL PHONE BECAUSE I ALWAYS BELIEVE SOMETIME NEXT YEAR, COME BACK AND WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE SOME LOTS OF SCALE OF THE EVENTS THAT WE WANT TO DO, HOW MUCH WANT TO SUBSIDIZE GRANTS. SO, YEAH, SO AS [2. Present and Discuss Recommendations Amending Fire Department Plan Review and Prevention Fees.] A NUMBER TWO, PRESENT, DISCUSS RECOMMENDATION, AMENDING FIVE DEPARTMENTS, PLANS, REVIEW AND PREVENTION FEES, SORRY FOR THE TECHNICAL DEV DIFFICULTY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL AND TOWN OFFICIALS. UM, I'LL INTRODUCE MYSELF. I'M FRED CALLAHAN. I'M THE NEW FIRE MARSHALL. I STARTED HERE IN MAY AND, UH, WHEN I COME FORWARD, HE DENIED TO SHOW YOU, IS THAT DISCUSS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CURRENT FIRE FEES? WE HAVE AN ADDISON, UH, WE'RE GOING TO EXPLAIN BOTH THE CURRENT FEE SCHEDULE AND, UH, SOME ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING BOTH INTERNALLY AND WITH OUR INTERNAL, EXTERNAL CUSTOMERS AND THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH WHAT THE FEE STRUCTURE RIGHT NOW. I'M ALSO GOING TO SHOW YOUR COMPARISON, UH, UH, FEES WITH OTHER CITIES IN DOING WHAT, HOW, HOW THEY CHARGE AND HOW WE COMPARE. ALSO, I WANT TO SHOW YOU A PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND, UH, WE BELIEVE WE WILL RESOLVE THE PROBLEMS WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW. AND, UH, TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH OTHER CITIES. AND ADDITIONALLY, I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOME NEW FEES THAT THAT WILL, UH, HELP, UH, FEES FOR SERVICE THAT WE'LL END UP. WE'LL DISCUSS THOSE THROUGH THE PROGRAM HERE. UH, FINALLY, I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSAL AND, UH, VERY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WE GO ALONG OR AT THE END OF THIS. SO CURRENTLY, UH, WE DO OUR S OUR, UH, PLAN REVIEW THAT'S ANY FIRE PROTECTION PLANS, AND THAT'S THAT SPRINKLER SYSTEMS OR FIRE ALARM SYSTEMS OR HOOD SYSTEM YOU SEE IN RESTAURANTS, WE'RE DOING ON A SQUARE FOOTAGE BASIS. AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEMS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, UH, BY DOING THAT, OUR FEES ARE HIGHER THAN MOST COMPARISON CITIES. UM, THE FEE CALCULATION CAN BE CONFUSING, AND WE GO BACK TO WE FIRST, WE STARTED ON THE ADDISON FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND THE PLAN REVIEW. I STARTED FULL-TIME IN MARCH WHEN WE STARTED CHARGING FULL TIME, UH, AS WE DID ALL THE PLANS AND, UM, THE ORIGINAL, UH, PROPOSAL WAS DONE BACK IN 2019 WHEN IT WAS LOOKED AT, AND THAT'S WHAT CAME ACROSS THE SKIRT, BUT IT SAYS BASED UPON IF THE TIME OFF LIKE PLANO AND MCKINNEY AND SOME OTHER CITIES, SINCE THAT TIME MCKINNEY HAS CHANGED THEIRS, THEY'VE GONE TO A FLAT FEE. [00:15:01] SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE WE'VE DONE THROUGH WITH THIS SQUARE FOOTAGE BASIS IS THAT CONTRACTORS GET CONFUSED WHEN THEY SUBMIT PLANS IN THE FIRST ONE I'M GOING TO SHOW IS THE VITRUVIAN DEPARTMENTS DOWN HERE. THEY SUBMITTED A 10 ACCESS CONTROL DEVICES, WHICH ARE JUST BASICALLY LOCKS THAT YOU HAVE TO SWIPE TO COME IN. THE WHOLE PROJECT WAS LIKE $26,000. AND SO BASED UPON WHERE THEY PUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE WHOLE APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THERE TO FIGURE IT OUT, IT CAME TO $7,850. SO I GOT A PHONE CALL AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, YOU GUYS GONE FROM NOT CHARGING TO YOU'RE THE MOST EXPENSIVE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. NOW THAT'S WHEN WE SAID WE KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG. WE HAD TO LOOK AT IT AND TO MAKE A CHANGE THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT. AND I JUST, I JUST PULLED THAT TOO. THESE ARE JUST TWO EXAMPLES ABOUT THAT. AND AS IT TODAY, I LOOKED AT 126 PLANS HAVE COME ACROSS IN TODAY OF ALMOST HAD TO ADJUST LIKE 120 OF THEM. AND HERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS DONE BACK IN OCTOBER, 2020, WHERE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A HUNDRED DOLLARS. WHAT WE CHARGED THE CUSTOMER AND THE WAY IT CAME ACROSS, IT WAS $24 AND 32 CENTS. SO THIS IS COMPARED TO SOME CITIES WHERE THEY'RE DOING A FLAT FEE CALCULATION, PER SE, AND JUST GOING IN THE LINE. AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT FARMER'S BRANCH. THE CHARGING WORKED FROM $120 TO 2000, AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ EVERY, EVERY LINE UP HERE, BUT JUST, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE DIFFERENCE. SOME PEOPLE DO IT AS A BASE FEE PLUS DEVICES. UM, MCKINNEY, AS I SAID, THEY USED TO DO SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THEN CHANGE THAT A 13 COMPARISON CITIES. WE FIGURED EIGHT CITIES ARE DOING A FLAT FEE CALCULATION, UH, THREE OR TWO ARE DOING IT SQUARE, BUT IT'S, ONE'S A HYBRID AND THAT'S FRESCO WHERE THEY'RE THERE. THEY DO SPRINKLER PLANS ONLY ON SQUARE FOOTAGE, EVERYTHING ELSE THEY'RE DOING ON A FLAT FEE. AND THEN OF COURSE, AS DOOMED SQUARE FOOTAGE, THIS IS JUST THERE IN ONE OF OUR, YOU KNOW, QUAD CITIES HERE AT FARMERS' BRAINS IS HOW THEY DO IT. AND IT GETS DOWN TO WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT, HOW THE PROPOSED CHANGE WOULD BE THAT WE DO ON A FLAT FEE BASED UPON WE CALL CONSTRUCTION VALUE, OR ARE THEY PROJECT VALUE IN THE FIRE PROTECTION PROJECT? SO WE'RE RIGHT AT FARMER'S BRANCH RIGHT DOWN. YOU CAN SEE, THEY START AT THE BASE FEE OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND THEN IT GOES UP AND IT'S EITHER IT'S, IT'S A FEE PLUS A PERCENTAGE, WHICH TO ME IS A LITTLE CONFUSING. AND IT'S HARD WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. AND ANYBODY THAT WOULD LOOK AT SEE IS AN EXTERNAL CUSTOMER. IT'S A CONTRACTOR. SO WHAT NEXT SLIDE, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS RIGHT HERE. AND I WANT TO BE REAL CLEAR ABOUT THIS AS THE PROJECT VALUE IS THE COST OF THE FIRE PROTECTION JOB MAKES IT A LOT EASIER. SO THAT WHEN A, UH, IF THEY'RE DOING A $3,000, YOU KNOW, FIRE ALARM JOB OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE THEM $100 AND ALL THE WAY UP, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE WAY TO $250,000, THE PRICE, NOT THE PRICE OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, BUT THE PRICE OF THE FIRE PROTECTION ITEM, OR WHETHER IT'S A SPRINKLER SYSTEM, A FIRE ALARM OR ACCESS CONTROL OR ANYTHING, DO IT THAT WAY. IT MAKES IT SO MUCH EASIER, EVEN ON THE CALCULATION AND ALL THEY HAVE TO DO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE DOING ALL OUR PLANS ELECTRONICALLY. SO, SO WHEN THEY PUNCH THAT IN THERE, THEY PUT THE VALUE IN IT, IT'LL KICK THE NUMBER OUT. SO WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING IS ON THOSE OTHER PLANS, I GO THROUGH AND HAVE BEEN AMENDING THEM OR HAD TO AMEND THEM AND CHANGE IT UP. IT'S CONFUSING, NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, TO THE EXTERNAL CUSTOMERS, ALSO TO THE STAFF, OVER DEVELOPING SERVICES, THEY DON'T LOOK AT IT TOO. THE LAST THING I WANT TO GO OVER IS THE, UH, THE PROPOSED NEW FIRE FEES. AND THEY SAID SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE NOT CHARGED BEFORE, THAT ARE IN THERE IN OUR INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE. AND THEY'VE BEEN IN IT FOR WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST RECENTLY ADOPTED THE 2018 FORCE, BUT THE 12 AND ALL THE WAY BACK, UH, SOME, SOME ITEMS THAT WE, THAT WE DO ON A REGULAR BASIS, THAT, THAT JUST, JUST TO CAPTURE SOME, SOME, I GUESS, SOME COSTS AND, UH, TO, TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE ON THE, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL FEE, RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION OR ANYTHING ELSE WE DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S A CAP ON THAT. SO WE'RE BASICALLY WHAT FEW HOMES THAT GET SPRINKLED THAT WE MAKE IT JUST ON A, ON A FLAT $200 FEE. AND THEN UP THEN SHE'D SEE COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS. AND THEN IF WE HAVE A PYRO AND THIS HAPPENS, HOPEFULLY WHEN THINGS GET BETTER WITH THIS HAPPENS, HOTELS AND WHATEVER HIGHER AS THE COME IN TO WATCH IT, THEY'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, SPARK WORKING. THAT'S NOT SPARKLERS, BUT THAT THE COLD PYRO STUFF INSIDE OF THE OUTSIDE OF A BUILDING, UM, RAISING ONE OR PROPOSED TO RAISE OUR AFTER HOURS INSPECTIONS FEES, IT WAS $50 AN HOUR. AND THEN TIMES TWO, THIS 75, IT PAIRS UP WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES RIGHT NOW, WHAT THEY CHARGE FOR A BUILDING INSPECTORS. AND I TALKED TO, UH, BILL ELLIOTT RIGHT BEFORE THIS EVENING. AND I ASKED, WHAT, WHAT IS THE, THEIR HOURS AND SWARMING ANYTHING BEFORE EIGHT O'CLOCK OR AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK. [00:20:01] IF THEY GIVE SOMEBODY A CONTRACTOR WANT TO DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, WE COULD DO IT THAT WAY. UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS THE COST, WHAT THEY WOULD BE, UH, IN FIRE SPRINKLER IN THE GROUND. THAT'S JUST, WHEN WE DO A NEW BUILDING, WE HAVE TO TEST AND MAKE SURE THAT THE BLOCKS ARE IN PLACE AND WE FLUSH IT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS AQUA LITTLE DECREASE. AND THAT PROBABLY LOOKS FUNNY, BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL RESTAURANTS SLASH PUBS, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE CHARGED ON THEIR ENTERTAINMENT FEES ON THE AMOUNT OF THEIR OCCUPANTS. AND SOMETIME THEY'LL WANT TO LOWER THAT THEY WANT A LIMITED NUMBER, WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY CALCULATED. WE CAN GO IN AND RECALCULATE THAT FORM AND POST IT, YOU KNOW, INTENDING TO GO BELOW. IT'S FINE. WE JUST DON'T WANT HIM GOING OVER. UH, THE OTHER ITEM HERE IS TENSE, AND, UH, I'M GOING TO MAKE A POINT OF WATER RIGHT NOW THAT, THAT, UM, IT'S ON THE CONSENT ITEM, UH, ITEM 13, AND THERE'S A LITTLE, THERE'S A LITTLE TITLE. I DIDN'T CATCH IT. IT SAYS IT IS HANDS OF ANY SIZE. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT OFF AND PUT THAT, MATCH THAT UP. WHAT THE CODE ACTUALLY SAYS, BECAUSE AS ANYTHING IN EXCESS OF 400 SQUARE FOOT, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PUP CHANTS TO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL. IF THEY'VE PUT A 10 AND A HALF PERCENT HAVE A SALE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, WE WANT TO GO INSPECT IT OR A BIT, YOU KNOW, A BIG EVENT SOMEWHERE TO MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE. UH, AND THE LAST TWO THINGS ON THERE IS A FLOW TEST. THAT'S HIGH TO FLOW TESTS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN SOMEBODY PUTS A SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN A FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM, THAT THE WATER INFORMATION IS NO OLDER THAN SIX MONTHS OLD. SO THEY'RE REQUIRED TO A FLOW TEST. AND THEN IF WE PUT IN SECURITY GATES AND WHERE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN, RIGHT, AND WE'D HAVE WHERE WE CAN GET IN PD, ANYBODY CAN GET IN THE GATES CORRECTLY. SO KIND OF WENT THROUGH THE SLIDES PRETTY FAST, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL, JUST, JUST PLEASE ASK THEM, AND THEN I'LL LIKE TO ANSWER THEM. HOW DOES THE RESIDENTIAL PLANNER YOU COMPARE TO WATER WAS HISTORICALLY, IT'S 200 BUCKS. NOW YOU'RE PROPOSING UP THERE, UM, AT PAGE SEVEN, UH, YEAH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S JUST PLAIN REVIEW FEE FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION. IT'S A FLAT FEE OF $200. IS THAT IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN CHARGING? WELL, I CLARIFY THAT THAT'S FOR A RESIDENTIAL FIRE, SPRINKLER ONLY. THAT'S JUST FOR, IF YOU, IF WE SPRINKLE WE'RE HOME, I KNOW, BUT IN MADISON, EVERY HOME AND EVERY HOME IS SPRINKLED AFTER 1993. SO AT ANY ADDITION, SO LIKE NEW CONSTRUCTION, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE A LOT GOING ON, BUT THAT WOULD BE A FLAT FEE. I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO, YOU'RE ASKING ME TO COMPARE THIS $200 NUMBER VERSUS WHAT WE'VE CHARGED BEFORE ON THIS. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT DID WE CHOOSE? BUT WE, WE HAVE UP UNTIL MARCH, WE WERE NOT, AS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON OUR SIDE OF IT, WE WERE NOT CHARGING FOR PLAN REVIEW. SO I DON'T HAVE, I CAN, YES. I MEAN, THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL. I MEAN, EVERY OTHER TOWN THAT I'VE EVER DONE WORK IN THAT THEY'RE CHARGING FOR PLAYING REVIEWS STUFF, SO, OKAY. IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION, DOC. THE SAME THING WHEN I WAS, CAUSE I'VE WORKED HARD TIME BEFORE I WENT, FULL-TIME HERE IN MAY AND PEOPLE WOULD CALL ME AND I'D SEEN YOUR PLANS, YOUR RADIO, YOU KNOW, REVIEWED THEM THIS, WHAT, WHAT W WHAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE OWE YOU? I SAID, WELL, NOTHING, WE DON'T CHARGE THAT. SO THEY COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW? AND SO, BUT ANYWAY, SO I GOT A FREE FOR AWHILE. UM, YEAH, THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I'VE GOT IS ON, UH, WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER TYPO ON THE ORDINANCE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE PROJECT VALUE OF 250,000. AND I THINK WE MIGHT WANT THAT TO BE 250,001 AND UP. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. NICE WORK, FRED. NICE TO MEET YOU. UM, THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME. UM, SINCE YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF MAKING THE MANY ADJUSTMENTS, UH, JUST THIS, UH, THIS FLOWS, AND I THINK IT WILL REDUCE CONFUSION FOR, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING TO DO BUSINESS WITH US, AND IT WILL CERTAINLY REDUCE THE ADMINISTRATIVE HASSLE THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH, UH, TO MAKE ALL, TO GET THIS ALL RIGHT SIDE. SO I'M ON A FAVOR. GOOD MARK. NO QUESTIONS. GOOD WORK. YES, SIR. I LIKE THE IDEA OF A PROJECT VALUE BEING USED ON EACH PROJECT. I'M CURIOUS AS TO HOW THAT VALUE IS GOING TO BE DETERMINED FOR EACH PROJECT. AND IS IT THEN DEPENDENT ON THE APPLICANT TO GIVE US A VALUE? AND WE LOOK AT THAT VALUE THAT THEY SUBMIT, HOW DO WE KNOW, HOW WILL WE KNOW AS THE TOWN THAT, WHERE WE KNOW WHAT THAT VALUE [00:25:01] IS? DO THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT, DO THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE PROOF FOR THAT? IS IT JUST THE EQUIPMENT? IS IT'S THE PLUS THE INSTALLATION OF THE EQUIPMENT. ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF DRIVE THE FEE DOWN BY TAKING OUT THE LABOR ON THE INSTALLATION, KIND OF GIVE US AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROJECT VALUE. YES, SIR. SO I, I, I CONFERRED WITH CAPPELL IN FARMERS, BRANCH AND OTHER PLACES, AND OVER FLOWER MOUNT ON, AND THEY'RE USING THE SAME, THEY'VE BEEN USING THE SAME THING. AND I GUESS IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S LIKE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THING. IT'S, IT'S, I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT THE HONOR SYSTEM, BUT WE TAKE THE WHOLE THING. AND IF, IF, IF THEY'RE CHARGING SOMEBODY 25, $26,000 TO PUT A FIRE ALARM SYSTEM IN OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, THAT'S THE ACTUAL NUMBER THEY'RE GOING TO PUT, THEY, THEY GOING REPORT ON THAT WHEN THEY MAKE AN ELECTRONIC APPLICATION TO DO IT, AS FAR AS THE ACCOUNTABILITY, AS FAR AS CORRECT. I MEAN, I SOMEWHAT, I HAVE BEEN IN THIS LONG ENOUGH, I CAN LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE, WHEN I LOOK AT THE PLANES AND THEY'VE GOT LIKE TWO DEVICES, WELL, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. IT WOULD BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, 5,000, IF I GET A JOB OR SOMETHING, AND IT'S GOT 150 DEVICES, OR IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND THEY WANT TO PUT IT, OH, IT'S A WHEEL IT'S ONLY $4,000. WELL, THEN WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A, A SET, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, A FIRE PROTECTION COST OUT THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ACROSS THE BOARD. WHAT DOES ALSO PART OF THIS TOO? AND I WENT OVER, THIS IS THE, UH, ON THE, UH, THE CONTRACTOR REGISTER, THE, THE, THE CONTRACTORS, LIKE WE HAVE FOR, UH, OTHER SERVICES IN THE CITY. AND THERE'LL BE ACCOUNTABILITY TO, WITH THEM BEING, YOU KNOW, SHOWING THEIR, THEIR, UM, THEIR, THE LIABILITY WITH THEIR INSURANCE AND, AND, AND HOW THAT NATURE. AND I, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY, THERE'S ALWAYS, PEOPLE WILL TRY TO TWIST THINGS, BUT THE SAME THING CAN HAPPEN ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. I MEAN, THAT'S WHY THERE'S A MINIMUM AND A MAXIMUM, AND THAT'S WHAT THERE ARE A LOT OF ARE DOING NOW, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO GO THE OTHER WAY AND DROP THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE DOWN TO SHOW WHAT'S ON ONE. THERE'S NO WAY, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT, IT JUST, IT HELPS A LOT, LIKE, AND I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE TRIVIAL THING WHERE THEY, THEY, THEY LITERALLY PUT IN ABOUT LIKE NINE DIFFERENT DEVICES AND ALL THE ELECTRONICS KNIT IT. AND I WAS SURPRISED THAT EVEN THAT JOB WAS LIKE 26,000 OR $26,000, BUT THE OTHER WAY, AROUND 200, $600 ON THAT FEE, AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, ALMOST $8,000 A HEAD UP THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BIG DIFFERENCE. SO THEY SEE IT, THEY SEE IT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. THEY SEE WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM. AND IT'S ALSO THE TEAM APPROACH TOO. SO I, I HAVEN'T REALLY YET, AND I'M SAYING IT COULD HAPPEN, BUT SO FAR BY IT, I THINK SHE WAS VERY, VERY, VERY TRUE TO TRUE ON THE NUMBERS THEY'RE BRINGING ACROSS. AND THEY'VE EVEN TOLD ME TOO, THAT SAID, THAT WORKS VERY FAIR AS FAR AS NOT HAVING TO ADJUST OR ANYTHING. SO WE ARE BASICALLY SUBSIDIZING THIS, THIS INSPECTION, UM, AND THIS WHERE HE WAS TOLD HE HAD A NEGATIVE OR POINTING FEES THAT WE MAY OR BE LOSING OUT ON. WELL, OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, SO BEFORE, YES, WE WERE CHARGING ZERO. SO, RIGHT. SO NOW WE'RE GOING IN THE OTHER DIRECTION WHERE WE'RE GOING UP. WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT FULLY RECOVERING ALL OF OUR CALL, OUR COSTS, BUT WE ARE RECOVERING SOME OF OUR COSTS. DO WE HAVE ANY INDICATION OF WHAT A VALUE OF WHAT OUR COSTS ARE? WELL, IF YOU JUST, UH, LET'S SAY LET'S ASSIGN FRED SALARY TO IT. I'M NOT GONNA ASK HIM TO DO ALL THE SALARY, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT RECOVERING COST OF FRED SALARY IN THAT, BUT HE DOES OTHER THINGS AS WELL, RIGHT? GOING FROM ZERO TO SOMETHING IS, IS WE THOUGHT A VERY REASONABLE, UM, IT'S SOMETHING WE, WE, WE WANTED TO DO FOR TWO REASONS. ONE, WE WANT TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE MARKET, BUT TO RECOGNIZING AS, UH, IN THE FUTURE, AS THERE ARE GREATER PRESSURES ON THE GENERAL FUND FOR, YOU KNOW, RE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES, IF WE WANT TO FIND OTHER WAYS TO GENERATE REVENUES, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE. SO AS LONG AS WE'RE IN LINE WITH THE MARKET, WE THINK WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD. WE DON'T WANT TO OBVIOUSLY BE OUT ABOUT OUTSIDE OF THAT. I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE COMING BACK AND AMENDING THIS, BECAUSE THE IDEA THAT WE HAD FIRST WAS NOBLE, BUT JUST THE, A LITTLE BIT, THEY PUT US OUTSIDE, IT WAS A SKEWED NUMBER. SO TO, I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE DO NOT FULLY RECOVER. IT JUST IS A GOOD START. THIS IS IN LINE WITH OUR, OUR, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET OVER COMPARATIVE COMPARISON CITIES. I THINK I ANSWERED, WELL, I LIKE THE IDEA OF MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT MORE STREAMLINED AND NOT AS CONFUSING. SO AS YOU SAID, THAT PROJECT, SO FRED IS TAKING OVER THE JOB OF MICHAEL MITCHELL, RIGHT? RIGHT. IS THAT CORRECT? IS IT SHERRY? BOWLIN'S DO [00:30:01] ON THE GO YES, SIR. JUST ONE ROOM. SO WE NEED TO RECOVER THOSE SALARIES. ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU GUYS DOES ADDISON DO ANNUAL BUSINESS INSPECTIONS ON AN EIGHT O'CLOCK FOR EVERY BUSINESS OWNER AND THEY HAVE A FEE FOR FIRE INSPECTION. WE DO ANNUAL INSPECTIONS WITH THERE'S. THERE'S NO, NO FEET FOR THAT. OKAY. THE REASON FARMERS BRANCH, WHAT, WHAT'D YOU THINK OF ONE THING AT A TIME? NO, I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT. I'M JUST, I'M JUST CURIOUS. UM, YOU DON'T WANT TO INCREASE ALL THE FEES, ANY QUESTION ANYMORE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR REAL QUICK. AND THANK YOU, FRED DID A GREAT JOB. WE DID PUT THIS ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING BECAUSE IT WASN'T VERY COMPLEX. UH, FOR, FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION, WE WILL ASK THE COURT TO HAVE IT AMENDED. SO JUST FYI, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM AS WELL FOR THIS. ALL RIGHT. I [3. Present and Discuss the Town of Addison’s Legislative Priorities for the 87th Texas Legislative Session. ] TELL THEM THREE WAS THAT DISCUSSED AT PAUL OR ADDISON'S LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR THE 87TH TEXAS LEGISLATIVE SESSION? UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BILL HOLLY. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. AND THE ITEM REPORT IS TONIGHT IS A DRAFT OF THE TOWN'S LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR THE 87 LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WHICH WILL BEGIN IN JANUARY FOR THE PAST THREE OR FOUR SESSIONS. THE TOWN HAS ADOPTED THESE, UH, IN ADVANCE OF THE SESSION THAT ALLOWS US TO TALK ABOUT IT. WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH OUR STATE LEVEL ELECTED OFFICIALS ABOUT WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE, SO THEY KNOW THAT GOING IN AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE SESSION AS BILLS COME UP, AND THERE'S TYPICALLY OVER 7,000 BILLS WITH ABOUT 2000 THAT HAVE IMPACT ON CITIES. UH, THERE'S ONLY 140 DAYS WHERE THEY CONSIDER THESE THINGS. WHAT HAPPENS VERY FAST. SO THIS PROVIDES STAFF WITH GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION ABOUT WHAT COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES ARE, SUPPORT THESE TYPES OF THINGS, OPPOSE THESE TYPE THINGS. SO WE NEED TO QUICK GET ON THE PHONE AND TALK TO A LEGISLATURE OR THEIR STAFF. IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THIS DOCUMENT AND PROVIDE THAT WITH DIRECTIONS AND PROCEED IN A RAPID MANNER. SO I AM NOT GOING TO READ ALL OF THESE TO YOU TONIGHT, BUT A LOT OF THEM WILL SEEM VERY FAMILIAR BECAUSE THE BULK OF IT REALLY BOILS BACK TO, UH, WE LOVE OUR FRIENDS DOWN IN AUSTIN, BUT THEY REALLY NEED TO JUST LEAVE US ALONE. EACH CITY IS ITS OWN LITTLE, UH, DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTION. LET US TRY AND DO OUR THINGS OUR WAY. THAT'S THE WAY DEMOCRACY WORKS REALLY WELL. SO WHEN THEY IMPOSE RESTRICTIONS UPON US, ABOUT THE WAY WE CAN OPERATE THE WAY WE CAN DO OUR BUDGETS, THE WAY WE CAN FUND OUR ACTIVITIES AND THINGS, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO FIND A ONE SIZE FITS ALL FOR A STATE AS BIG AS TEXAS AND AS DIVERSE AS TEXAS. SO, SO THE MAIN PHILOSOPHY IS THAT, UH, WE WANT TO RETAIN OUR ABILITY TO MAKE DECISIONS LOCALLY, YOU KNOW, ADDISON BEST, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEST FOR ADDISON. SO PLEASE LET THE LOCAL OFFICIALS MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. AND THE OTHER, UM, MAIN AREA IS NOT TO IMPOSE FEES UPON US TO PERFORM THEIR WORK. THEY MAY HAVE A GREAT IDEA THAT THEY WANT TO PUT STATEWIDE AND THEY SAY, WELL, THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THE CITIES ARE GOING TO DO IT. AND THEY PROVIDE US NO REVENUE TO DO THAT SO THAT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THESE, OR WE HAVE TO DIP INTO OUR GENERAL FUND TO CREATE THESE PROGRAMS, MAKE THESE, MAKE THESE PROGRAMS HAPPEN, AND THEN REPORT THAT INFORMATION TO THE STATE. AND THEN THEY CAN TAKE CREDIT FOR SAYING SOMETHING OCCURRED. SO WE GENERALLY OPPOSE THOSE TYPE THINGS. SO AS YOU'RE, AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THERE, YOU'LL SEE, YOU'LL SEE A SUPPORTING AND OPPOSING LEGISLATION THAT FALLS INTO THOSE CATEGORIES. AND AGAIN, IN THE MANAGED LOCALLY IS WHAT'S MANAGED BEST FINANCIALLY, PARTICULARLY THE LAST COUPLE OF SESSIONS. THE STATE HAS MADE EFFORTS TO RESTRICT THE WAY THAT WE PERFORM OUR LOCAL BUS IN AND BILL TO OTHER RESTRICTIONS ON POSSIBLE WAYS TO RAISE REVENUE THROUGH BONDS, U TAX ANTICIPATION NOTES, UH, REQUIRE ELECTIONS FOR CERTAIN THINGS THAT REALLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TIMING AND WHAT IT WOULD TAKE AND OVERHEAD, THEY'RE PUSHING YOU TO, TO CASH BOND OR BOND FUND. AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS IN THE BEST INTEREST OR THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE WAY TO DO IT. SO, UH, WE HAVE A GREAT CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. WE HAVE GREAT LEADERSHIP AND WE JUST WANT THE FLEXIBILITY TO USE THE APPROPRIATE FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS TO FUND OUR OPERATIONS WITHOUT, UH, WITHOUT BEING RESTRICTED. AND THEN ANOTHER BIG AREA IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IS CONTROL OF OUR RIGHTS OF WAY. SO THE TOWN HAS CONTROL OVER THE RIGHTS OF WHALE ALONG CERTAIN ROADS. AND THEN, UH, PEOPLE LIKE ENCORE PAY US ABOUT $1.4 MILLION TO USE THOSE TELEKOM AND OTHER CABLE PROVIDERS PAY US FEES AND THROUGH LEGISLATIVE [00:35:01] PROCESSES AND OTHER GOVERNMENTAL, UM, ACTIONS, UH, THEY THEY'RE CHIPPING AWAY AT OUR ABILITY TO CONTROL THOSE WRITEAWAYS AND TO CHARGE APPROPRIATE FEES FOR THAT. AND WE DON'T WANT TO CHARGE RIDICULOUS FEES, UH, BUT THAT THEY'VE SET THOSE ARTIFICIALLY LOW. UH, AND IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A REVENUE STREAM THAT THE TOWN HAS COME TO RELY UPON. AND THAT'S, THAT'S MOVING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF REGISTERED LOBBYISTS IN AUSTIN AND WHO THEY, WHO THEY'RE PAID BY, THE TELECOM INDUSTRIES IS THE, IS THE LARGEST, UH, GROUP DOWN THERE. SO WE'RE UP AGAINST A HUGE, UH, GOLIATH IF WE WANTED TO CHANGE THAT. BUT, UH, THERE'S 1700 CITIES IN TEXAS. SO IF WE ALL BAND TOGETHER, WE'RE PRETTY BIG TOO. SO, UH, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT. YES, CERTAINLY YOU'RE TALKING. HOW ABOUT THAT? DOES THAT TOUCH UPON OUR FRANCHISE FEES AND THE BUNDLING ISSUE? SO THAT, THAT WAS ONE PIECE. THE LEGISLATION THAT THE TELECOMS PUT THROUGH THE LAST, THE LAST SESSION TO WHERE, WHEN IT'S RUNNING THROUGH THE SAME WIRE, YOU CHARGE ONE OF THE TWO FEEDS, NOT, NOT BOTH. SO THAT'S IMPACTED THE TOWNS. WE WILL BE HOPEFULLY ADDRESSING THAT SO WE CAN SEEK TO, UM, UH, IT, IT LEGISLATION, YEAH. IN THE PAST WE CAN SEEK TO REPEAL IT OR AMEND IT INTO A MORE FAVORABLE RULING FOR, FOR THE TOWN. UH, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE UP AGAINST, ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM, WE'RE UP AGAINST SOME VERY, UH, VERY LARGE PROBLEM, UH, REGULATION OF DEVELOPMENT. SO, WELL, I THINK THE, THE BILL THAT CAME OUT OF THE LAST SESSION THAT EVERYONE WOULD PROBABLY REMEMBER IS HOUSE BILL 24 39. AND IT WAS, IT WAS WELL-INTENDED LET'S SIMPLIFY. IT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER, HEY, I'M A, I'M A BUILDER AND I'VE, I HAVE DIFFERENT RULES IN EVERY EVER CITY. CAN'T WE JUST STREAMLINE THIS AND MAKE THIS EFFECTIVE, BUT THERE'S THE LAW OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, THE WAY THEY WROTE IT, THEY OVERSIMPLIFIED IT. NOW YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH BUILD WHATEVER YOU WANT. ADDISON HAS A CIRCLE AESTHETIC STANDARD. YOU DON'T WANT THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU BUILDING THEIR HOME OUT OF USE TIRES AND CORRUGATED 10, YOU, YOU, YOU WANT MASONRY PRODUCT AND YOU WANT CERTAIN STANDARDS. AND THE LEGISLATION WENT TOO FAR. SO WE WOULD SEEK TO, TO SWING THAT BACK AND MAKE IT MORE, UH, OR LOCAL CONTROL, BUT AGAIN, RESPECTFUL AND MINDFUL OF, OF, OF THE BUILDERS AND THEIR INTERESTS. BUT, UH, THAT WAS, UH, HE'S A LOCAL CONTROL THAT WE LOST THE LAST TIME THAT THEY COULD BE VERY IMPACTFUL TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN THE LAST MAJOR SECTION RELATES TO TRANSPORTATION. AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S IMPORTANT IN A GROWING STATE LIKE TEXAS AND, UH, VERY BENEFICIAL TO ANY REGIONAL IDEA OF W SO A LOT OF THESE MIRROR, THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL, THAT'S OUT OF CAULK AND, AND THEIR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. SO THAT JUST SHOWS THAT WE'RE IN SOLIDARITY WITH THEM. AND THEN SOME, UH, SOME BIGGER PICTURE, LONGER TERM, UH, STATE LEVEL CONCERNS. SO HIGHWAY PROJECTS THEY'RE LARGELY FUNDED THROUGH THE MOTOR FUELS TAX. WELL, UH, AS MUCH AS 50% IN CERTAIN YEARS OF THAT HAS BEEN DIVERTED TO OTHER ACTIVITIES SUCH AS EDUCATION AND THINGS, AND PARTICULARLY IN A DIFFICULT ECONOMIC TIME. SO THIS UPCOMING SESSION, THE STATE IS SHORTING THE BONDS. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING HARD AT THE SOURCE OF REVENUE TO PAY THEIR BILLS. AND THIS MAY BE, THIS MAY VERY WELL BE ONE OF THEM. AND SO WE WANT TO AVOID THOSE DIVERSIONS BECAUSE THAT JUST MEANS IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER FOR THESE PROJECTS TO OCCUR. AND THE OTHER IS A, IT'S A MOTOR FUELS TAX. SO ELECTRIC CARS, CARS WITH BETTER MILEAGE, WE'RE BUYING LESS GASOLINE. SO THE STATE HAS LESS REVENUE. SO THE STATE NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT A DIFFERENT SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THESE HIGHWAY PROJECTS. BE MINDFUL. TECHNOLOGY IS COMING ALONG, AUTONOMOUS CARS, INTERMODAL, LOTS OF DIFFERENT VEHICLES AND TECHNOLOGY AND VEHICLES ON THE ROAD. SO THE STATE NEEDS TO UPDATE AND MODERNIZE SOME OF THE LEGISLATION TO ALLOW THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN. SO THE TEXAS CAN REMAIN A LEADER. WE'VE GOT PORTS, WE'VE GOT RAIL, WE'VE GOT AIRPORTS, WE MOVE A LOT OF CARGO AND STUFF THROUGH THE STATE. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THINKING AHEAD. AND THEN REGIONALLY, UM, JUST LIKE THE LOCAL CONTROL AS A REGION OUT OF COG. WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR THIS REGION AS FAR AS THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECT. SO IT'S BETTER IF W IF WE HAVE A SAY IN THAT VERSUS A PANEL DOWN IN AUSTIN, AND I'M NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHERE THE ROADS NEED TO BE IN THE CITY. SO THOSE ARE A QUICK SYNOPSIS OF ALL OF THOSE MANY, MANY BULLETINS. AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE A QUESTION, BILL, THANKS FOR NOW, UH, ON THE QUESTIONS OR THE ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, MORE THAN THE THIRD BULLET, SECOND BULLET POINT ON THERE AS THE ADDITION OF LANGUAGE POSING LEGISLATION THAT WOULD LIMIT THE AUTHORITY OF SEVERE OFFICIALS TO USE MUNICIPAL FUNDS, TO COMMUNICATE WITH LEGISLATORS. CAN YOU, SO THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN EFFORTS IN THE PAST. SO, UH, TO THE, THE CITY IS A MEMBER OF THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE AND THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE HAS A VERY SMALL LEGAL STAFF THAT HELPS THEM MONITOR LEGISLATION AND PROVIDE INFORMATIONS AND INTERPRETATIONS TO CITIES. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE INCREDIBLY [00:40:01] EFFECTIVE. SO THERE'S OPPONENTS THAT DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE, UH, IS A, IS, DOES A WONDERFUL JOB, AND THEN CAN GET, REACH OUT TO THE THOUSAND PLUS CITIES, OR I THINK THERE'S 700 OR SO MEMBER CITIES AND, AND QUICKLY GET, UH, LEGISLATOR'S ATTENTION ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM. SO THERE HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTS IN THE PAST TO SAY NO CITY TIME. SO EVEN US TALKING ABOUT A PIECE OF LEGISLATION, WHAT WE'RE USING, WE'RE ALL IN THE CLOCKS, OR WE'RE USING CITY TIME. SO THAT'S THE MORE DRACONIAN LEGISLATION YOU CAN'T DO ANY OF THAT IN SOME, IS IT A LITTLE MORE TOWARDS THE MIDDLE OF SAYING, WELL, YOU CAN'T USE TAX REVENUE TO PAY MEMBERSHIP IN SOMETHING LIKE THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, OR TO HIRE A LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANT, UH, TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEN TO SPEAK ON THE INTEREST OF, OF COMMUNITIES. SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE CONSTITUENTS. WE HAVE A LOT OF SAY, UH, AND WE HAVE A LOT TO OFFER OUR FRIENDS IN AUSTIN. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO RETAIN OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, JUST DO THEM AND NOT, NOT TO BE HAVING AN IMPOSITION UPON US. ABSOLUTELY. UH, THANK YOU JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION. UH, YOU KNOW, ADDISON, ISN'T A MEMBER OF THE NORTH DALLAS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. I'M THE LIAISON FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE THE LIAISON TO THAT ORGANIZATION AND YOUR ORGANIZATION. I'VE ALSO BEEN, UH, ATTENDING COMMITTEE MEETINGS FOR POLICYMAKING, KNOW THAT WE INTEND TO IGNORE DALLAS GENERAL COMMERCE INTENDS TO SEND TO EIGHT A GROUP OF MUST TO A STATE KIND OF A STATE DAY. SO WITH LEGISLATURES AND THAT'S, WE'RE PLANNING TO DO THAT ON THE SECOND. I BELIEVE IT'S THE SECOND IT'S IN FEBRUARY, BUT, UM, I PLAN ON ATTENDING AND THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL OF COURSE, WITH PEOPLE AND HAVING THEM APPRECIATE IT. EXCELLENT. UH, YOU KNOW, UM, A COUPLE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE NORTH TEXAS COMMISSION WAS THE US CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THEY ARE BEING OUT OF A CADENCE TO KEEP LOCAL CONTROL SEATS. SO WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO DO LESS LATER AND SAY, HEY, YOU CANNOT DO THIS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT HIGH ALL ARMS AND RELAX. SO IF YOU REMEMBER THE REVENUE CAB LOWER, LOWER 8% OR THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. SO IT'S BEEN IN DISCUSSION FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND THEN THE FUNDING FROM TEXAS FUND FUNDED, EACH SCHOOL ISD AND THE LESS, INSTEAD OF MORE, RIGHT. SO A LOT OF STUFF, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S AGAINST OTHER LOCAL CITIES OR COUNTIES. SO, UM, WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR IT. YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO ADVOCATE THIS, IF THOSE REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE STATE SENATE SENATORS OR STATE THE HOUSE REPRESENTATIVE, THEY DON'T HELP THE CITIES DON'T HAVE ALL AWAY. SO NEXT TIME DON'T VOTE FOR THEM, RIGHT? THAT'S TRUE. MAYOR, WE'RE THE NORTH DALLAS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, UH, HOSTS EVENTS WHERE THEY WILL INVITE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES THAT WE GET TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THEM AND LET THEM KNOW. LAST YEAR I WAS ON HIM ABOUT, UH, ABOUT, UH, HOUSE BILL 24 39. AND, UH, UH, FELT THE LETTER, THE LETTER THAT WE SENT AS A TOWN, AS THE TOWN PERSON, AS MUCH AS WE CAN. YEAH. JUST LIKE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE THING, THE ONLY LOCAL SEEDS AND OTHER CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR THE POSITION, WE DON'T HAVE TO DECLARE WHICH PARTY YOU BELONG TO, WHICH PARTY YOU ARE AFFILIATED WITH. BUT SOME LEGISLATORS ASK THE LOCAL CDS CANDIDATES HAVE TO DECLARE WHICH PART OF THE IDEOLOGY, ALL PURPOSE. YES. TO HELP PEOPLE LIVING AT US. AND VERY COOL. SIMILARLY, THIS IS HOW WE CALL IT PUBLIC SERVICE. SO, SO YOU SEE THE PULLING POINT IN GENERAL. SO OPPOSE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CANDIDATES FOR CITY OFFICE TO DECLARE PARTY AFFILIATION, TO, FOR OFFICE TO SUPPORT YUP. QUESTION AND THEN QUESTIONS FOR ME, I THINK THIS ISN'T A PRUDENT, UH, LIST OF ITEMS THAT MAKE SENSE. AND THEN I SUPPORT, AND I THINK THE SPIRIT OF OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORTS. SO I'M IN FAVOR. [00:45:03] I WAS GOING TO COMPLIMENT, I THINK YOU DID A NICE JOB. THANK YOU. HOW'S THIS GOING TO ACCOMPLISH? I THINK DIDN'T MENTION TO HAVE A FOLDING AND IN PARTICULAR FROM THE TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL, I SAID THAT GROUP AND THEIR CONCERNS ARE VERY MUCH REGIONAL FLEXIBILITY AND HAVING INNOVATIVE FINANCIAL SOLUTIONS AND USING THOSE INNOVATIVE FINANCIAL SOLUTIONS SO THAT EACH AREA RECEIVES ITS FAIR SHARE OF TRANSPORTATION FUNDING. AND I THINK YOU DID A NICE JOB. THANKS BILL. IF YOU COULD, UM, YOU'VE GOT THE REGULATION OF DEVELOPMENT. YOU GET HB 31 67 AND THE SUBDIVISION PLATTING SHOT CLOCK BILL. DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION YOU COULD SHARE ON THAT? SO THAT IS AN, AND, UH, I WISH WE HAD AN, I DON'T WANNA PICK ON OLGA, BUT SHE, IF I CAN SPEAK BROADLY TO IT, BUT IT'S BASICALLY WHEN YOU'RE, UH, SUBMIT FOR USE THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY FOR, TO PUT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THAT THERE'S USUALLY A BACK AND FORTH RIGHT BETWEEN STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER BACK AND FORTH. WELL, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR BILL SETS A TIME PERIOD THAT IF, WHEN THE SHOT CLOCK RUNS OUT, IF YOU'RE STILL WORKING BACK AND FORTH, WELL, THE CITY'S DONE. AND, AND, AND THAT JUST PROCEEDS ON AS IF APPROVED. SO IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT, UH, WE UNDERSTAND AND, AND WAS PROBABLY A REACTION TO, UH, SOME COMMUNITY WHERE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THEY, THEY SLOW PLAYED AND, AND PUSH, YOU KNOW, STALL THEM AND DID WHATEVER. SO, UH, AND IT COULD SOUND GREAT THAT OBVIOUSLY THE CITY NEEDS TO BE RESPONSIVE, BUT, UH, A LOT OF THAT GIVE AND TAKE, AND YOU'LL SEE SOME OF IT LATER TONIGHT ON YOU SEE IT ALL THE TIME ON DEVELOPMENTS, IF IT TAKES GOING BACK AND FORTH TO DO THAT, BUT TO HAVE A SHOT CLOCK WHERE AS SOON AS THE PLAN'S HIT, YOU GOT X NUMBER OF DAYS, AND THEN IT'S JUST AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED IF YOU HAVE COME TO A SOLUTION. AND IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T SIT WELL FROM HAVING A QUALITY OF QUALITY PRODUCT BECAUSE YOU CAN GAIN THE SYSTEM THE OTHER WAY. SURE. UH, SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ONE, AND I DO KNOW THERE'S A, THERE'S A WORD MISSING IN THERE THAT I NEED TO FIX THAT LINE. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE. THANK YOU FOR THAT DETAIL. I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS. THE ONLY OTHER, YOU KNOW, I JUST THOUGHT OF ONE THING OF THE 7,000 PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT ARE FLYING THROUGH THE AIR ABOUT HOW MANY, UM, WILL THEY LOOK DURING THE GIVEN LEGISLATIVE SESSION? I UNDERSTAND IT VARIES, BUT ARE WE LOOKING AT 3,500, 4,005,000? THEY'RE ALL PROPOSED. AND JUST BECAUSE IT'S PROPOSED AS IT MEAN IT'S GOING ANYWHERE, IT'S A FAR SMALLER NUMBER THAT ACTUALLY GETS A HEARING AND THEN IT ACTUALLY GETS TO THE FLOOR AND THEN ACTUALLY MAKES IT THROUGH THE PROCESS. BUT THERE'LL BE AGAIN, ROUND NUMBER A COUPLE THOUSAND THAT, OF THOSE 7,500 THAT ARE PASSED AND A SIGNIFICANT PORTION IN SOME WAY WILL IMPACT CITIES. UH, THERE'S OTHER ONES WHERE THEY SUBSTITUTE OR MURDERS TWO BILLS, OR THEY HAVE A SHELL BILL. AND THEN THERE'S A CERTAIN POINT IN THE PROCESS WHERE THEY CANNOT INTRODUCE ANY NEW LEGISLATION, BUT THEY CAN AMEND IT LIKE CRAZY. SO IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU WERE THINKING, OH, THIS ONE'S INNOCUOUS. AND NOW SUDDENLY IT HAS SOMETHING YOU THOUGHT WAS DAD ATTACHED TO IT AND A PART OF IT. SO IT JUST REALLY TAKES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT, PARTICULARLY IN THOSE LAST SEVEN DAYS, UH, TO, TO SEE WHAT, WHAT IS HAPPENING. AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S, IT'S GOING SO FAST AND LEGISLATIVE TOURS ARE NOT CERTAIN EXACTLY WHAT STILL IN THE BILL OR NOT IN THE BILL. AND THEY'RE JUST MOVING, MOVING, MOVING TICKET TO GET STUFF DONE, DIFFICULT PROCESS, RIGHT? SO THIS, THIS WAS A DRAFT FOR DISCUSSION ON THE NEXT MEETING. WE'LL BRING THIS BACK AS CONSENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. SO, SO WE CAN CONTINUE WITHOUT LEAVE. YOU'VE WAITING FOR 70 30 SO WE CAN CONTINUE. SO LET'S DO ONE THE [ Announcements and Acknowledgments Regarding Town and Council Events and Activities Discussion of Meetings / Events] SUMMER LONG. YES. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING. UM, JUST A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT FIRST, UH, WE WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT, UH, PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ATTEND A VIRTUAL QUARTERLY COMMUNITY MEETING TO REVIEW THE PROGRESS AT THE DARK SILVER LIGHT REGIONAL RAIL PROJECT. THAT MEETING WILL TAKE PLACE THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH FROM 6:30 PM TO 8:00 PM, UH, DART AND THE DESIGN BUILD CONTRACT WILL BE ON HAND VIRTUALLY, UH, TO, UH, OUTLINE THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE PUBLIC HAS. IF, UH, PEOPLE WANT MORE DETAILS ON THAT MEETING, THEY CAN GO TO WWW DOT W W W DOT DARK, UH, ORG FORWARD SLASH SILVER LINE, UH, TO LEARN HOW TO ACCESS THAT MEETING. ADDITIONALLY, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY JOIN US FOR THE COME AND GO OUTDOOR POP-UP WORKSHOP SHOP ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER THE 19TH [00:50:01] FROM 4:00 PM TO 7:30 PM AT THE ADDISON CIRCLE PAVILION. AND THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS POP-UP MEETING IS TO, IS TO GET INPUT ON ADDISON'S CITY-WIDE MASTER TRAILS TRAILS, MASTER PLAN. UH, THE WORKSHOP WILL PROVIDE FUTURE TRAIL INFORMATION AND FEATURE A LARGE FLOOR APP, UH, DEPICTING THE DRAFT PROPOSED TRAILS. UH, THE PARTICIPANTS WILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO PROPOSED TRAILS BY COMMENTING AND MAKING NEW IDEAS ON THE LORD'S BUDGE. LARGE FORMAT. CHILDREN WILL BE INVITED TO PLAY ON THE MAP WITH A TOY PEOPLE, BICYCLES AND CARS. IT'LL HOPEFULLY THERE AREN'T ANY LIKE, UH, HORRIBLE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS ON THAT THAT EVENING. UH, BUT THEN, UH, AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION WILL BE ANNOUNCED IN THE EVENT OF BAD WEATHER, BUT WE WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE'LL INCLUDE IT IN OUR TOWN NEWSLETTER. AGAIN, THE DATE IS NOVEMBER THE 19TH 4:00 PM TO 7:30 PM AND THAT'S TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COMMENT ON THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN. WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE THAT IF THEY ARE INTERESTED IN APPLYING FOR A POSITION ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OR THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT, OR TO SERVE AS A COMMUNITY PARTNER, UH, WE INVITE PEOPLE TO FILL OUT THE APPLICATION ON THE TOWN WEBSITE, WHICH CAN BE FOUND UNDER THE GOVERNMENT TAB AT THE TOP OF THE WEBPAGE. THE APPLICATION DEADLINE IS NOVEMBER 20TH AND THE COUNCIL WILL DISCUSS APPOINTMENTS AT ITS, UH, DECEMBER 8TH MEETING. UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, THEY CAN CONTACT CITY SECRETARY IRMA PARKER AT (972) 450-7017, OR I PARKER AT ADDISON, TX.GOV. UM, AND, UH, IF YOU CAN'T FIND THE LINK, FEEL FREE TO CONTACT US DIRECTLY AT A TOWN HALL. THE OTHER THING IS IT WILL ALSO HAS BEEN IN THE TOWN NEWSLETTER AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT AVAILABLE IN THE TOWN NEWSLETTER AS WELL. AND THEN JUST AS A REMINDER, AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT OF LATE, UH, LATER ABOUT THIS, UH, ON TUESDAY 11, UH, NOVEMBER THE THIRD, EXCUSE ME, THE TOWN HELD A SPECIAL CHARTER ELECTION AND ASKED VOTERS TO CONSIDER 26 AMENDMENTS TO THE CHAMP TOWN CHARTER. UH, THE OFFICIAL RESULTS OF THAT ELECTION INDICATE THAT ALL 26 OF THE AMENDMENTS WERE APPROVED BY ADDISON VOCALS. SO I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION FOR THEIR EXCELLENT WORK. AND I THINK THE VOTERS OF ADDISON FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION ON THESE 26 MINUTES. SO MAYBE THAT'S ALL OF THE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT I HAVE PHOTO. THANK YOU. UM, OR DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SOUND RECORDING? ALL RIGHT. SO PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE ARE NO ONE CALLING OR WANTING TO COMMENT. SO THE NEXT ONE [ Consent Agenda All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.] IS THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM FOUR FIVE SIX SEVEN EIGHT, NINE, 10, 11, 12, 13. SO I UNDERSTAND ITEMS 13 GOING TO BE FOUR FOR CLARIFICATION. YES MA'AM. SO DO I HAVE MOTION FOR FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10, 11, 12 ITEM FIVE. RIGHT. ANY ANYONE ELSE? SO, SO NOW DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR FOUR SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10, 11, 12. SO LAURIE WARDED MADE A MOTION. I WAS SECONDED ALL IN FAVOR. AYE, AYE. MOST ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. [5. Consider Action on a Resolution to Approve the Purchase of Central Control Irrigation Software and Equipment from Interspec Through the BuyBoard Texas Local Government Purchasing Cooperative and Authorize the City Manager to Execute the Purchase Order in an Amount Not to Exceed $96,421.60. ] THE REASON I WANTED THIS POOL WAS, UM, WE HERE ON THE COUNCIL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS BECAUSE WE DISCUSSED IT, THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT I THINK AS THESE THINGS COME UP DURING THE FISCAL YEAR AND WE'RE ACTUALLY PROCEEDING WITH THEM WITH THE PURCHASE OR THE BEGINNING OF THE INITIATIVE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, UH, ON ONES THAT I THINK ARE OF PARTICULAR INTEREST TO THE, TO THE CITIZENS TO REVISIT THIS AND HAVE THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT HEADS SPEAK TO, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. AND THEN, UH, I THINK THIS IS AN EXCITING PROJECT. IT'S A LONG-TERM PROJECT. IT'S I THINK IT'S, UM, SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS INNOVATIVE THAT IS KEEPING US ON THE FRONT EDGE OF USE OF TECHNOLOGY, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR PILLARS. AND IT'S ALSO, UH, CONSISTENT WITH OUR EFFORTS TO PRESERVE OUR PRECIOUS NATURAL RESOURCES. I'M THE ONE THAT NEEDS WATER. SO, UH, THAT'S THE REASON I HAVE NO, I FULLY INTEND TO SUPPORT A PASSAGE OF THIS. I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND IT'S VERY GOOD INITIATIVE THAT STAFF BROUGHT TO US. SO PLEASE, IN GENERAL, SURE. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JANET SAID, WELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, UM, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A BROAD OVERVIEW OF WHAT STAFF HAS PROPOSED AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS IS THAT WE BEGAN CONVERTING OUR IRRIGATION CONTROL SYSTEM TO A CENTRAL IRRIGATION CONTROL SYSTEM. UM, WE DO HAVE SOME ASPECTS OF A CENTRAL CONTROL SYSTEM WITH OUR CURRENT SYSTEM, [00:55:01] BUT IT'S VERY LIMITED. UM, THE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING WILL GIVE US SOME VERY DETAILED DATA. UM, IT INVOLVES US INSTALLING YOU CONTROLLERS, AND IT INVOLVES US INSTALLING A VALVE CALLED AN A RAD VALVE. AND THAT IS A SMART VALVE THAT WILL GIVE US A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT OUR WATER USAGE. UM, IT WILL ALSO GIVE US INFORMATION IF THERE'S A WATER LEAK SOMEWHERE CURRENTLY, OUR SYSTEM WILL TELL US THERE'S A LEAK, BUT IT DOESN'T TELL US WHERE THE LEAK IS. UM, THAT'S VERY CUMBERSOME AND TIME INVOLVING SOMETIMES IF WE'VE GOT A CONTROLLER THAT HAS 75 STATIONS TO IT. SO 75 VALVES, SOMETIMES OUR IRRIGATORS ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO INSPECT EACH ONE OF THOSE BOUNDS BEFORE THEY FIND WHERE THE LEAK IS. AND IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING. THIS WILL ACTUALLY TELL US YOUR LEAK IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THESE TWO VALVES OR THESE THREE VALVES. SO IT WILL ISOLATE IT AND IT WILL GIVE US SOME DATA THAT WILL HELP US, UM, SAVE TIME, UM, GET THE REPAIR FIXED FASTER. UM, SOMETIMES WE'VE MADE SOME REPAIRS THINKING THAT WE'VE SOLVED THEM AND THEN COME BACK THE NEXT DAY. AND IF I'M THE PROBLEM, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT DATA OR THAT INFORMATION, UM, IT WILL ALSO ALLOW US TO ADJUST OUR CONTROLLERS FROM OUR SMARTPHONES, UM, AND FROM OUR COMPUTERS. AND IT'LL LET US DO IT IN A WAY THAT WE CAN IF WE WANTED, IF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE FALL. SO ALL OF OUR TURF, WE NOW WANT TO PULL BACK ON THE WATER. WE COULD MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT VERY EASILY. WE'RE RIGHT NOW, OUR IRRIGATORS GO OUT TO EACH ONE OF THOSE CONTROLLERS. THEN THEY ADJUSTED THE TIMER. UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING OUR STAFF MORE EFFICIENT WITH THIS. THIS IS GOING TO BE A TEN-YEAR PROCESS FOR US. UM, ONE OF THE GOALS IS IT'S GOING TO LET US ALSO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH WATER WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACES AND FINE TUNE THAT TO A BETTER ABILITY THAN WHAT WE DO RIGHT NOW. SO WE HOPE THAT WE WILL SEE SOME WATER SAVINGS OVER IT. UM, WE'RE GOING TO START IMPLEMENTING THIS THIS YEAR, UM, WITH OUR BIGGEST WATER CONSUMERS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT REDDING TRAIL, VITRUVIAN PARK AND ADDISON CIRCLE PARK. WE ALSO FOUND SOME MONEY IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET TO PULL INTO THIS AND GO AHEAD AND CONVERT CELESTIAL PARK BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A BIG PLANNING PROJECT. THAT'S THE LAST YEAR, THIS YEAR, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME BETTER IRRIGATION ADJUSTMENTS. SO IT MADE SENSE FOR US TO FIND THE MONEY TO DO THAT. UM, SO IS THAT ENOUGH INFORMATION? THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, I UNDERSTAND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR APPROXIMATELY INVESTMENT HERE AND LONG-TERM INVESTMENT WITH, UH, I THINK IT'S WORTH THE MONEY IS WELL SPENT. IT'S, UH, ON MANY LEVELS AND I APPRECIATE THE INNOVATION THAT IS WORTH ON THIS. SO WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY SECOND BY NELSON TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE, YOU APPROVED THIS, PLEASE SAY HI, BOTH. REMEMBER [13. Consider Action on an Ordinance Amending Chapter 2, Section 2-351 (Master Fee Ordinance- Plan Review and Inspection Fees) of the Code of Ordinances of the Town of Addison to Add Subsection (f) Fire Department Fees.] LAST TIME MARY COUNTS. ALL RIGHT, MAYOR COUNCIL ON ITEM 13, TURNED IT OFF. I APOLOGIZE. ITEM 13. WE JUST LIKE TO MAKE TWO EDITS THE ORDINANCE. I THINK THE FIRST EDIT IS, UM, UNDER THE COMMERCIAL FIRE PLAN REVIEW SECTION CHANGING THE PROJECT VALUE FROM $250,000 UP TO $250,001 AND UP. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS UNDER THE REVIEW AND INSPECTION SECTION. UH, THE TENTS CURRENTLY IT SAYS TENTS ANY SIZE. I THINK WHAT WE WANT IT TO SAY IS TENSE GREATER THAN 400 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE. SO IF WE CAN HAVE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THAT THERE IS ONE, UH, INCORPORATE THOSE TWO EDITS. THAT'S I THINK COVERS THE ITEMS. I MOVE. WE APPROVE ITEM 13 TO ADJUSTMENTS, ONE TO REFLECT TENS OVER 400 SQUARE FEET. AND SECONDLY, TO CORRECT FROM THE MOUNTS OVER 250,000 TO 250,000 AND DOLLAR, SECOND EMOTIONS ISLAND. AND SECOND BY COMMONWEALTH AND ALL YOUR FAVORITES, YOU ARE CLOSE TO THIS ITEM. PLEASE SAY I POST 14, [14. Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Canvassing and Declaring the Results of a Special Charter Amendment Election Held in the Town of Addison, Texas on November 3, 2020. ] IS THAT DISCUSSING, CONSIDERING ACTION ORDINANCE CANVASSING AND DECLARING THE RESULTS OF THIS SPECIAL CHARTER OR MINIMUM THAT ELECTION HELD IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON, TEXAS ON NOVEMBER 30, 20, 20. SO A MONTH [01:00:02] I HAVE NOT RECEIVED OR A PARKER CITY SECRETARY. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY, UH, INFORMATION FROM THE COUNTY YET. THEY ANTICIPATE TO HAVE IT TO ME TOMORROW AT NOON. UH, SO I WILL SEND OUT A NOTICE TO COUNCIL AND ASK WHAT DAYS THAT YOU ARE AVAILABLE. CAUSE I ONLY NEED TWO AND SEE WHO I COULD GET, UH, TO DO THE CANVAS. AND I WILL HAVE TO PUT A NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER WHERE 72 HOUR NOTICE IT'S GOING TO BE A MEETING JUST LIKE THIS MEETING WOULD BE. AND, UM, SO AT THIS TIME I, I HAVE COUNCIL WOULD JUST PASS THIS. WE DON'T NEED ANY ACTION. AND WE'LL JUST ADOPT THIS DURING THE CASE PASS AS IN MEETING, NOT TO TAKE NO ACTION AND REAL QUICK, JUST TO CLARIFY, IT WILL BE A PUBLIC MEETING, BUT IT WILL NOT BE A TYPICAL PUBLIC MEETING, MEANING IT WILL BE ADVERTISED FOR PEOPLE TO ATTEND, BUT WE WILL NOT BE AD PEOPLE WILL BE NOT BE TELEVISED. IT'S NOT GOING TO REQUIRE THE ATTENDANCE OF THE WHOLE CITY CANCELED CITY COUNCIL IN ORDER TO CANVAS THE ELECTIONS. GOTCHA. UH, TEXAS ELECTION REQUIRES, UH, ORDINANCE WAITING FOR YOU TO CALL. AND, UH, I HAVE TO SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT OFFICIAL RESULTS, BUT VERY FORTUNATELY I'M TRYING TO SAY CHARTER AMENDMENTS ALL APPROVED VIA HIGH VOTES. AND SO THAT I WANTED TO REALLY OFFICIALLY TO APPRECIATE THOSE MEMBERS SERVING ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND THEY HAVE TO SPEND HOURS HOURS TO ADVISE THIS, AMEND THIS. SO IN THAT ADVISORY WAS THE OBSTACLE. SO LET'S GIVE HIM A RUN, A BUS THIS ELECTION IS A TOUGH QUESTION. YOU KNOW, SO MANY ITEMS. SO WITH THIS 26, I GET MY WHAT'S CALLED OTHER TIME MAY OR A FLUSTER. THIS LOTS OF THAT. SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN, BUT I'M READY TO LAUGH AND IT'S DONE. SO I WANTED TO MITCH UP ON STAFF DID A VERY GOOD JOB WITH THE SPECIAL ELECTION BROCHURE. OH YEAH. I LOVE THAT. IT WAS CONCISE. IT WAS EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND GAIN, UH, FACTUAL EVIDENCE, UH, AS TO THE THINKING BEHIND THIS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, WITH, WITH BALANCING AND NOT GETTING A, UH, A DOCUMENT THAT IT PROMOTED ANY EITHER PASSAGE OR DENIAL OF IT. BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS A, A VERY GOOD REFERENCE DOCUMENT. SO YEAH, I THANK YOU. UH, MARY MADE 26, UH, CHARTER AMENDMENTS SEEM CONCISE, SO EXCELLENT JOB, MARY, THE LANGUAGE WAS CLEAR AND I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY AND THE STAFF AND EVERYONE PARTICIPATED IN THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST READ IT FOR AGAINST THE, THERE W THERE W THERE WAS NOTHING THAT WAS A CONFUSING. AND I RAN INTO ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THE STREET THE OTHER DAY TAKING A WALK KIM BOYLE. AND SHE SAID, IT'S BEEN VERY SATISFYING TO BE A COMMITTEE MEMBER AND PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS TO THEN SEE IT, GO TO THE BALLOT AND THEN PASS. IT WAS A REALLY NEAT EXPERIENCE. SO, YEAH, OTHER, OKAY, SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE USE LOW SPHERE FIELD AND IT'S GREAT, NICE, CLEAN AND BIG. SO IN THE MORNING, YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO WAIT. SO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY ENJOY IT. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT THE COMMITTEE, THE COMMISSION GROUP DID A GREAT JOB IN THEIR EFFORTS NEED TO BE APPLAUDED. UM, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO BOTH ASHLEY MITCHELL AND CHARLES GOFF, WHO, UH, DID A LOT OF THOSE STAFF, UH, UH, WORK IN FACILITATING THE DISCUSSION AMONGST THAT GROUP. SO, UH, THEY DID A LOT OF WORK IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, AND I WANTED TO SAY, THANK YOU TO THEM FOR THEIR HERCULEAN EFFORTS IN, IN LEADING THAT GROUP AS WELL. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T FORGET THAT WELL. SO I WANTED TO THANK ALL CITY SECRETARY IRMA PARKER TO COORDINATE GOOD JOB. VICE CHAIR TO CALL HER OUT. SHE ADDED AN AWFUL LIVES TO THE PROCESS AHEAD. YEAH, SHE WAS PROBABLY VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN THAT CLEAR LANGUAGE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NUMBER 15. [15. Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Changing the Zoning on a .57-acre Property Located at 4901 Arapaho Road, Which Property is Currently Zoned PD, Planned Development, Through Ordinance O04-048, by Approving a New PD District, to Allow Development of a 41,388 Square Foot Commercial Building. Case 1809-Z/Baumann Building. ] CONSIDER ACTION. ALL AN ORDINANCE, CHANGING THE ZONING ON A 0.5 700 ACRES PROPERTY [01:05:01] LOCATED AT 49 OH ONE, UH, ROCCO ROAD, WHICH PROPERTY IS COMING TO THE OWN PD PLAN, THE DEVELOPMENT THROUGH ORDINANCE ZERO FOUR ZERO FOUR EIGHT. PROVING THE NEW PD DISTRICT TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF A 41,388 SQUARE FEET, COMMERCIAL BUILDING CASE NUMBER ONE EIGHT ZERO NINE Z ALMOND BUILDING ANYTHING MARIN CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS WILSON KERR. I'M THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER AND THE INTERIM PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. IT'S A MOUTHFUL, UM, CASE 1809 DASH Z. BAUMAN BUILDING IS, UH, AS THE MAYOR SET UP PROPOSAL FOR A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW FIVE STORY, 41,388 SQUARE FOOT. MULTI-TENANT COMMERCIAL BUILDING ON A POINTS OF FIVE, SEVEN ACRE VACANT LOT LOCATED AT FOUR NINE ZERO ONE ARAPAHOE ROAD. THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED A PLAN DEVELOPMENT. YEAH, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO BE USED AS A PARKING LOT EXPANSION FOR THE RADISSON HOTEL LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY. UM, AFTER THE PARKING LOT WAS NEVER, UH, REALIZED THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED BY MR. BAUMANN, MR. BELLIN AND HIS TEAM INITIALLY PRESENTED PLANS FOR A FIVE STORY BUILDING THAT WOULD INCLUDE FIRST FLOOR PARKING GARAGE. UM, EDWARD BOWING CLOSURES ON ANOTHER FLOOR, A LUXURY MATTRESS SHOWROOM ON ANOTHER, UM, OFFICE ON ANOTHER AND HIS RESIDENCE ON THE TOP FLOOR, UH, WHILE THE URBAN CENTER DISTRICT DOES ALLOW FOR THESE USES IN THAT BUILDING. UM, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE 65 DECIBELS NOISE LEVEL CONTOUR OF THE ATS AND AIRPORT. RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN THIS DECIMAL CONTOUR ARE PROHIBITED BY, UH, VIA UNDER PART ONE 50, UH, THE, UH, UH, THE NOISE COMPATIBILITY PROGRAM. UM, UH, AND IF A RESIDENTIAL USE IS APPROVED, UH, IN THE TOWN, THE TOWN WILL BE AT RISK OF LOSING FEDERALLY TSHIRT GRANTS FOR THE AIRPORT. UH, FOLLOWING THESE DISCUSSIONS, THE MEETING WAS SET UP BETWEEN THE ADDISON TEAM, MR. BAUMAN'S TEAM TXDOT, AND THE FAA WITH THE, UM, WITH THE GOAL OF THE FAA, UH, GIVING US A FIRM ANSWER AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, UH, WHETHER OR NOT ADDISON WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THEIR GRANT ASSURANCES AND WHETHER OR NOT MR. BAUMANN COULD SIGN A WAIVER OR A VARIANCE TO THE PART ONE 15 NOISE COMPATIBILITY PROGRAM. THE FAA RESPONDED THAT A WAIVER OF VARIANTS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE AND THAT ANY RESIDENTIAL USE WITHIN THE NOISE CONTOURS WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THE FEDERAL AISHA GRANTS. UM, SO MR. BAUMAN'S TEAM, UH, UPDATED THEIR PLANS TO ELIMINATE THE RESIDENTS ON THE TOP FLOOR AND USE IT AS MORE SHOWROOM SPACE, UM, AND P AND Z APPROVED THIS WITH CONDITIONS. UH, THE UPDATED PROPOSAL REMAINS A FIVE-STORY 41,388 SQUARE FOOT MULTITENANT COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT WILL INCLUDE FIRST FLOOR PARKING OFFICE SPACE AND SHOWROOMS FOR THE MATTRESS FIRM AND THE, UM, UH, CLOTHING. OTHER POSTS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE A 78 FOOT TALL URBAN STYLE BUILDING WITH MINIMAL SETBACKS. UH, THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN PROVIDES STREETSCAPE STANDARDS FOR THE VARIOUS TYPES OF STREETS. UM, ARAPAHO ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS DEFINED AS A MINOR ARTERIAL. UH, THE EXISTING SIDEWALK ALONG ARAPAHO ROAD HAS ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED WITH A SPECIFIC LOOK THAT RUNS THE LENGTH OF THAT ROAD. UM, AND THEREFORE THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANY CHANGES FROM MR BAUMAN'S TEAM. UH, EDWIN LEWIS DRIVE ON THE OTHER HAND IS DEFINED AS A COMMERCIAL COLLECTOR STREET ON THE SOUTH OF THE PROPOSAL. AND DUE TO THIS SITE'S PROXIMITY TO ADDISON CIRCLE, THE URBAN PEDESTRIAN STANDARD WOULD BE USED ON THIS STREET. AND THIS REQUIRES AN EIGHT FOOT ON STREET PARALLEL, UH, PARKING AREA, A SIX FOOT PARKWAY BUFFER, UM, AND AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK. THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL MEETS THESE REQUIREMENTS. THEIR PLANS ALSO SHOW THAT THEY AVOID EXISTING POWER POLES, UM, ON THAT SITE WITH THE SIDEWALK. SO THOSE POWER POLES WILL NOT BE, HAVE TO HAVE TO BE REMOVED. UH, THE APPLICANT WILL, WILL NOT BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE OPEN SPACE, TO DO THE SIZE CONSTRAINTS OF THE SITE AND THE PROXIMITY TO AS IN CIRCLE PARK. UM, SO WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS, UM, ON PARKING FOR THE SITE. UH, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT STAFF CALCULATE, UM, THE REQUIRED PARKING BY NET SQUARE FOOTAGE RATHER THAN GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHICH IS THE TOWN STANDARD. UH, THEY'VE ALSO REQUESTED A 10% PARKING REDUCTION DUE TO THE PROXIMITY TO THE DARK TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. UM, THE PROPOSED PLANS PROVIDE 47 PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS FIVE LESS THAN WOULD BE REQUIRED IF CALCULATED THAT IN THAT, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, WITHOUT THE, WITHOUT THE PROPOSED TOD CREDIT AND 17 LESS THAN WOULD BE REQUIRED TO CALCULATE IT BY GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE AS, AS THIS TOWN, UH, STANDARD, UM, THE STAFF AND THE, AND THE APPLICANT ALSO SPOKE ABOUT THE FUTURE USES OF THE PROPERTY, UM, DUE TO ITS LOCATION AND SIZE OF THE FUTURE CONVERSION. UH, IF FUTURE CONVERSION [01:10:01] TO OFFICE SPACE WOULD BE THE MOST OBVIOUS, THE MOST IDEAL, UM, IN THAT CASE, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED PLANS THAT SHOW, UH, THE ABILITY TO CONVERT THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE BUILDING TO MORE PARKING WITH ACCESS BY AN AUTO LIFT FROM THE FIRST FLOOR GARAGE TO THE SECOND FLOOR. UM, THIS CONVERSION WOULD INCREASE THE PARKING TO 69 SPACES. UH, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT, IF THE BUILDING WERE CONVERTED TO OFFICE WOULD BE 66 IF CALCULATED BUYING THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE TOD PARKING CREDIT WERE IN PLAY THERE AS WELL. 73, IF ONLY CALCULATED BY NET SQUARE FOOTAGE AND 101 IF CALCULATED MICRO SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHICH IS TOWN STANDARD, UM, DUE TO THE PARKING CONSTRAINTS OF THIS PROPOSED OFFICE AND SHOWROOM USE, UM, AND OF THE FURTHER CONSTRAINTS FOR, UH, IF, IF THE BUILDING WERE CONVERTED TO OFFICE SPACE, ADMINISTRATION HAS RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THE PROJECT. UM, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. YEAH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD PROMOTION P THE LAST LATEST Z VIDEO IS, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO SOMEBODY HAD TALKED ABOUT STREET PARKING SPOTS, HOW STREET PARKING SPOTS WERE CREATED. I THINK THE ANSWER WAS FIVE THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT. YES. AND, UM, I WAS THINKING THAT THAT WOULD COME OUT IN THEIR MOTION, BUT IT DIDN'T. MY QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU, IS IT, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO, TO CONSIDER THOSE OR NOT, UH, WILL THE STREETS, THE STREET PARKING IS, IS CALCULATED INTO YOUR OVERALL PARKING FOR THE SITE? SO, UM, I APOLOGIZE IF THAT WASN'T CLEAR. UM, I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN HER, I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. I DIDN'T SEE THAT AS THE COUNCIL LANDSLIDE WHERE IT'S DIFF IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE PARKING CREDIT, RIGHT? YES, IT IS. SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, UH, WILSON IS SAYING IS THAT IT'S ALREADY INCORPORATED IN THE REQUIRED CALCULATION FOR PARKING THOSE FIVE SPACES. OKAY. SO, SO, SO WHAT ABOUT LOOKING AT PAGE TWO? THAT'S INCLUDED, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN A LOT OF ACCOMMODATION SENTENCE, CORRECT. IT'S BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH QUITE A FEW TIMES, UH, COMMENT ON SOME OF THAT. YES. SO WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT ON, ON THIS BUILDING, UM, AND P AND Z. MOST OF THAT WAS, UM, WE WERE TRYING TO, WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THE FAA WOULD ALLOW RESIDENTIAL USE IN THIS SPACE. UM, SO IT, IT TOOK A WHILE FOR THE FAA TO GET BACK WITH US. UM, AND ONCE THEY DID, AND THEY, UH, LET US KNOW THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED, I WAS ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH, UM, AN APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. WERE THERE ANY OTHER ACCOMMODATIONS JUST LIKE LANDSCAPING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WERE DISCUSSED? UM, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE OR AM I KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT, BUT, BUT NO, I'M STILL CONFUSED ON THIS, SO, YEAH. SO THERE'S 42 ONSITE SPACES AT FIVE ON THE STREET THAT ADDS UP TO 47. OKAY. AND SO THEN DO YOU DEDUCT THE 10% OFF THE 47, 10% OFF? WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, RIGHT? REMINDER MICROPHONE. RIGHT. SO THERE'S TWO WAYS TO CALCULATE THE PARKING. WHAT THE TOWN REQUIRES THE CALCULATION TO BE IS TO CALCULATE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHAT THE NUMBER OF TOTAL SPACES REQUIRED WOULD BE 64. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT INSTEAD OF CALCULATING IT ON GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE, THAT WE COULD CALCULATE IT ON NET SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THE 52 SPOTS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY'RE SAYING BECAUSE THEY ARE, UH, THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, THEY WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AN ADDITIONAL CREDIT FOR THAT TOD PARKING OF FIVE. SO YOU REDUCE THAT FOUR 50 TO FIVE FURTHER AS A 47, THE FIVE ON STREET PARKING AREN'T INCLUDED IN THAT 52. AND THEY WOULD ASK YOU TO SAY, GIVE US CREDIT FOR THE BEING ACROSS THE STREET FROM TRANSIT, THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT BY REDUCING THAT 52 FURTHER BY FIVE. SO YOU'VE GOT THE ON STREET ALREADY CALCULATED AND COUNTED IN HERE. AND THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL REDUCTION BECAUSE THEY'RE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPER. YEAH. I WAS THINKING YOU'RE PROPOSING [01:15:01] 47. THEY ARE PROPOSING YES. BE ALLOWED TO HAVE 47. I WAS THINKING THIS ANSWER, 18 SPACES BE PROVIDED ON THE SURFACE A LOT ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING AND THEN 24 AND THEN FIVE ADDITIONAL, RIGHT? SO THAT DID GET YOU TO 47. IT ACTUALLY GETS YOU TO F WELL, BUT IF YOU HA YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE THE, THE, THE REDUCTION OF FIVE SPOTS FOR BEING ACROSS THE STREET FROM KANSAS OVER YOU DEVELOPMENT, TO GET TO THE 42, TO GET TO KNOW, TO GET INTO THE 47. WELL, HE'S ALREADY AT 47, 18 PLUS 24 PLUS FIVE 24. THIS IS 35 47. DO YOU HAVE 47 SPOTS? THAT'S WHAT THE POSTAL IS FIVE MINUTE STREET, 18 AND A PARKING LOT IN VERSE 24 UNDER THE BUILDING. THAT'S 47, BUT THE CALCULATION IS YOUR GO BY THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE JUST SAYS, YOU NEED TO HAVE 52. AND THEY'RE ASKING YOU, WE'RE SAYING, WE'RE ASKING FOR REDUCTION OF 10%. WHAT MARLIN'S SAYING IS OUR MATH IS WRONG. I WANT TO BE ANSWERED WITH THE PROVIDED CREDIT. WHAT IT REALLY IS, IS A REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED TWO 47, THE WAY YOU USE THE TERM, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT PARKING SPOTS, WHEREVER YOU, EVERY ONE OF THEM IS CRITICAL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. SO BASICALLY OUR MATH, OUR MATH IS WRONG. SO WHAT, WHAT SHOULD IT BE WHEN WE CORRECT OUR MATH SO LED TOO? SO IT SHOULD, NO, IT SHOULD. THE NET, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING TO BE ALLOWED TO PROVIDE IS 47 PARKING SPOTS. THAT'S WHAT OUR MATH SHOULD HAVE SHOWN A TOTAL OF 52. THEY'RE ASKING FOR 47, YOU KNOW, UH, BASED ON THE NET FOOTAGE, IT SHOULDN'T BE 52. SO YOU TAKE AWAY ALL THE BLOCK. I MEAN, NOT DIRECTLY USED AREA. SO IT SHOULDN'T BE 52, WHETHER THEY REQUEST 47 BECAUSE TRANSIT ALREADY DEVELOPMENT IS RATIFIED BY THEM. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS, WHILE THE THING I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER TO REDUCE IT, REQUIREMENT, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE TRANSIT ALREADY DEVELOPED. THE OTHER THING IS IN TODAY'S WORLD, PEOPLE WOULD JUST RIDE WITH LYFT OR UBER. SO WHILE YOU'RE DOING SO MANY POCKETS SPACE, JUST LOOK, THE SHOPPING CENTER AHMED 99% OF TIME IS ONE-THIRD EMPTY. YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S WASTE OF THE SPACE. WASTE OF UTILIZATION. I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS PARKING RATIOS IN YOUR CODE OR WHEREVER WHAT THE ULI PEOPLE SAID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST ESPECIALLY ADJACENT TO TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IS YOU DON'T PAY IT OFF. THEY DIDN'T ENCOURAGE DOING A BUNCH OF SURFACE PARKING AND PROVIDING ALL THE SPACES, BECAUSE THAT TAKES AWAY FROM THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE THE TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, I GET ON MY SOAP BOX BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. I MEAN, OF COURSE I'M IN, I DO DEVELOPMENT KIND OF STUFF. I MEAN, I'M IN CONSTRUCTION, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF TOWNS IN THE COUNTRY THAT DIDN'T EVEN HAVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DEVICE. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME IN, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE WOULD GO THERE, BUT WELL, NO, IT'S LIKE ANY BIG, ANY BIG CITIES. I MEAN, SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD A 50 STORY OFFICE BUILDING THERE. THEY DON'T HAVE PARKING REQUIREMENT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND THEIR MONEY AND TAKE THE RISK OF DEVELOPING IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THERE'S TWO EXTREMES HERE. RIGHT. AND I UNDERSTAND P AND Z IS THOUGHT OF MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S LIKE ANOTHER POSSIBLE USE FOR THE BUILDING DOWN THE ROAD AND HAVING THE SECOND FLOOR. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I, I LIKED THE IDEA THAT THERE, THAT THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE STRUCTURE, THE VARIABLE TO DO WITH IT, FRANKLY, IT WAS KIND OF SURPRISED ME WHEN I SAW THAT. SO, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN A BUNCH OF STUFF UP IN MCKINNEY THE SAME WAY WHEN THEY DID CRAIG RANCH AND THEY ALWAYS GIVE THEM, I MEAN, WE ALWAYS GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR THE STREET, PARKING, PARKING ON THE STREET. AND TYPICALLY IF IT'S CLOSE TO THE PROXIMITY OF SOME LIKE, UH, TROLLEYS AND STUFF TO RUN UP THERE, THEY ALSO WOULD GET A, SOMEWHAT OF A RELIEF ON NUMBER OF SPOTS BECAUSE OF THEIR LOCATION CLOSE TO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO ALL THAT STUFF MAKES SENSE TO ME, BUT YEP. HOW ABOUT THE 10% BEING 10% PARKING REDUCTION BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO TRANSIT ORIENTED. DOES THAT SEEM HIGH THOUGH? IT JUST, I JUST SEE WHAT I SAW. [01:20:01] IT JUST SEEMED A LITTLE LOW WE'RE BEING IN THE CLOSE PROXIMITY. WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE MECHANIC DOESN'T HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE SYSTEM THAT WE WILL HAVE UP HERE. SO I DON'T, I MEAN, THERE IS, UH, WANTS TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION. UH, WELL, I THINK WHERE THE TWO D KIND OF DISCUSSION IS COMING FROM, UM, IS THE UDC THAT'S NOT FINISHED YET. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION THERE ABOUT PROVIDING THE 10%, UH, DIS I GUESS, CREDIT, BUT KNOW, THAT'S NOT SINCE THAT'S KIND OF A HOLE THAT HASN'T COME FORWARD OR HASN'T BEEN APPROVED, BUT IT'S, IT'S BEEN A CONSIDERATION. UM, I JUST WANNA ALSO, UH, MAKE A NOTE THAT A CONSIDERATION THAT WAS ALSO MADE WAS THAT THIS IS A RETAIL USE. AND, UM, WE WERE ORIGINALLY TREATING IT AS AN OFFICE AND ENDED UP, UM, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR IS THAT IS BEING TREATED AS A SHOWROOM. SO IF WE WERE TO ACTUALLY TREAT IT AS AN OFFICE, WE WOULD HAVE TO REQUIRE IT. SO THAT WAS AN ADDITIONAL, I WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER A QUESTION. OKAY, WE'LL SEND A QUESTION. JUST THE WAY THAT I READ THIS, THOUGH, THE VARIOUS THINGS YOU WENT THROUGH, THE, THE ONLY EXCEPTION THAT IS ON THE TABLE, THEY UNDERSTAND TREATING IT AS THE SHOW ROOM, AND THEN IT'S THE THINGS THAT ARE LISTED. SO IT'S REMOVING THE RESIDENCE, CHANGES THIS ARGUING ON NET SQUARE FOOTAGE SHOWING THE SECOND FLOOR CAN ACCOMMODATE FUTURE PARKING. AND THERE WAS THE DISCUSSION AGAIN, PG ELEMENT SQUASHING AND THE FUTURE PARKING LIFT, MEET FIRE CODE. IF THOSE ARE IN PLACE, IF THE ONLY ISSUE THE PARKING SPACES. YES. CAN I KIND OF ASK THEM ANOTHER QUESTION? I KNOW THIS, THE NET GROSS WORK FOOTAGE THING, AND THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME WHEN YOU'RE, IF THERE'S PLACES IN THE BUILDING THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE OCCUPANTS IN IT, AND I UNDERSTAND OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR REGULATIONS ALL BASED ON GROSS, WHEN YOU GUYS LOOK AT A RESTAURANT AND THEY HAVE, IF THEY'VE GOT A 1200 SQUARE FOOT PATIO, YOU COUNT THAT INTO THE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE NOW. SO THAT GETS CALCULATED IF THE BUILDING'S 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND THEN THEY HAVE THE NUMBER. OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY, BECAUSE THAT DEFINITELY TAKES OCCUPANT LOAD. AS YOU KNOW, SAME QUESTION, THE PLANTS AS THEY ARE CURRENTLY SHOWN TODAY. IS THERE A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO MEET THE FIRE CODE? IS IT, IS THAT THEY'VE BEEN REVIEWED SUFFICIENTLY TO, SO WE CAN'T REVIEW THAT UNTIL WE KNOW FOR SURE. IT'S GOING TO BE CONVERTED INTO A, UH, SECOND FLOOR GARAGE WITH A LIFT, AND THEN IT WILL HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH BUILDING CODE. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, WE LET THEM KNOW, UM, THAT WE COULDN'T GO FORWARD WITH A WHOLE FIRE CODE RE REVIEW ON THAT SECOND FLOOR, IF IT WERE CONVERTED TO PARKING YET, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE PLANS. WE JUST HAVE A THEORETICAL, UM, THE SECOND FLOOR PARKING AT THE MALL. IF I COULD JUST ADD, UH, YOU KNOW, DURING THE ZONING REVIEW WHERE WE'RE DOING A HIGHER LEVEL REVIEW FOR USES AND STANDARDS, AND ONCE IT'S APPROVED, THAT'S WHEN IT GOES IN FOR A BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW. AND THAT'S WHEN THEY PROVIDE ALL THE ADDITIONAL PLANS. SO IS IT POSSIBLE THAT AT THE TIME OF DAY, DO YOU THINK THAT THE OWNERS LOOK TO GO TO A SECOND LEVEL PARKING PLANS AND THEN GO TO A REVIEW? AND IT COULD BE THAT THE REVIEW FAILS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A SUBSTANTIAL CONDITIONS OF THE STRUCTURE ITSELF, AND THERE'S NO WAY TO GO BACK. AND COST-EFFECTIVE WAY TO GO BACK AND TRY TO COMPLY IS ISN'T THAT A RISK THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON THE OWNERS SAY, HEY, LET'S SEE IF YOU CAN MEET THESE. OKAY. I CAN'T LOOK AT ANYTHING TO EITHER POSE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A CHANCE THAT YOU'LL PASS FIRE CODE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. THAT'S WHY IT'S PART OF THE CONDITION. UH, SO WHEN IT COMES FORWARD FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW, THE ZONING DEPARTMENT GETS TO REVIEW AGAIN. AND, UH, WE MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, UM, HIS REVIEW ENSURES THAT THAT LEVEL WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE A CONVERSION. SO WE'RE ENSURING THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE A CONVERSION. AND THEN WHEN THEY IN THE FUTURE COME FORWARD FOR THE CONVERSION, WE'LL DO ANOTHER REVIEW [01:25:01] TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING ELSE IS SAFE. YEAH. IF THEY COME, IF THEY, IF THEY WANT TO GO. AND THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT WHEN A, WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET FINANCING ON THIS KIND OF A PROJECT, YOU'RE GOING TO SUBMIT YOUR ENTITLEMENTS TO YOUR LENDER. THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, WHAT ARE WE LANDING AGAIN? AND IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY CONDITIONS THEY'RE GOING TO, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO ASK THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS AS WELL. BUT THE PARKING LIVE, WE DO WIN. YEAH. BECAUSE THE PARKING LIVED. UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLANS AND THE PARKING LOT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TOP FLOOR, IT'S CURRENTLY A CARGO LIFT ON THE PLANT, AND THEN I'D BE CONVERTED INTO AN AUTO LIFT. SO IT'S A FIRE CODE REVIEW OF LIFT, NOT OF THE POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE USE. THE SECOND FLOOR IS LIFT ITSELF. I THINK IT WOULD ALSO BE A REVIEW OF THE SECOND FLOOR ITSELF. I MEAN, WHETHER OR NOT THE ACCESS POINTS ARE THERE AND ALL OF THAT, THAT MEET FIRE CODE. I MEAN, IT, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT. PARDON ME? UM, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT, UH, I, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON FIRE. GOOD. SO I'D HAVE TO SPEAK WITH OUR BUILDING OFFICIALS OR FRED ON THAT. YOU GOT TO HAVE AN EGG ON ANY OF THOSE FLOORS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EXIT WITHIN SO MANY FEET OF ANY PART OF THE FLOOR, RIGHT. THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE, WHETHER IT'S OFFICE OR PARKING SPACES, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY LOOK, WHEN THEY REVIEW THE PLANS FOR STRUCTURE THAT STRUCTURAL DRAWING AND TOUCH SITE, WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT THING'S DESIGNED AS FAR AS LOAD WISE, AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TELL THEM THAT'S EFFICIENT FOR, SO THE, REALLY THE MODIFICATION IN MY MIND THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE IS PROBABLY SOME FIRE, SPRINKLER, RELOCATIONS KIND OF STUFF. AND I, AND POSSIBLY SOME VENTILATION, I MEAN, IT'S SIMPLE STUFF TO DO, YOU KNOW, IF I GOTTA BE CLOSED IN AND EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, VEHICLES UP THERE, THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE SOME WAY TO EXHAUST. SOME OF THE FUMES OF PEOPLE WERE UP THERE WITH VEHICLES ON THAT SECOND. SO AS LONG AS THE STRUCTURE IS THERE, THE REST OF IT'S FAIRLY SIMPLE, MAKE ME CODE. I MEAN, WE HAVE PEDESTAL PARKING WITH RESIDENTIAL ABOVE IT ALL OVER TOWN. WE HAVE. SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE 47. UM, UH, FOR TWO REASONS. ONE IS THE TOD, UH, PROXIMITY CONCESSION, IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL IT? AND THE OTHER THING IS THEY'RE THE REWRITE OF THE, UM, THE UDC, WHICH WE'VE HAD PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS ON. AND WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THE BEST PRACTICES ARE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE PARKING. UH, SO WITH THAT, JUST WHERE I'M, I'M SQUARELY LANDING, AS I'M GOOD WITH THIS, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT YOUR MAIN REASON FOR DENYING THIS IS THE PARKING. UM, I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH APPROVING, APPROVING IT. THAT'S WHY I'M LEAVING. I'D LIKE TO, UH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, AND I PROVIDED A COUPLE PICTURES OF EDWARD LEWIS DRIVE. CAN WE TALK THROUGH THOSE? OKAY. SO, SO ONE OF THE THINGS I SAW IN THE P AND Z PACKET WAS, UM, WAS THE, UH, THE COMPARISON ABOUT FAMILY IN WESTERN INTERNATIONAL IMPLEMENTED THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. AND THAT'S ON THE, WHAT, THE SOUTH SIDE OF IT THAT WERE LEWIS DRIVE, WHICH, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW. AND SO I SPENT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, UH, LOOKING AT THAT STREET WITH THIS, THIS ITEM IN MIND. UM, AND IF, IF YOU GO, YOU MOVE AHEAD, THERE'S THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS ENTRANCE TO, UH, SPRINGFIELD SUITES, WHICH IS LOCKED UP. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S, HOW LONG IT'S BEEN LOCKED UP, BUT CAN YOU GO KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND THEN JUST KIND OF BACKED UP WHEN YOU CAN SEE IT AGAIN. AND THEN IF YOU WANT MORE SO, AND THAT'S JUST ABOUT 30 YARDS FURTHER, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE GOT THIS LITTLE TURN LANE HERE. UM, IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR PARKING SPOTS, WE'VE GOT THIS TURN LANE THAT JUST GOES TO NOWHERE BECAUSE IT JUST KIND OF DEAD ENDS AND YOU CAN'T TAKE A, UM, YOU CAN'T TAKE A RIGHT INTO THE SPRINGFIELD SUITE. SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR PARKING SPOTS. I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S FIVE READILY AVAILABLE FOR STREET PARKING. IF WE WANT TO TAP INTO THAT. AND THEN IF YOU, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I DROVE THERE ALL THE TIME. I THINK THAT THE RECESS. SO IF YOU DRIVE ON BEFORE YOU REACH MONASH, BEFORE YOU TURN INTO, UH, UH, RIGHT AFTER YOU PASS DONALD BROTHERS COFFEE, SO IT DOESN'T BREED RECESSION LAND. SO, SO, BUT SOMETIMES IT CAN BE CONFUSION. [01:30:01] YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY CONFUSING AND PEOPLE TRIED TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN. YOU CAN'T, THEY KEEP THINKING THAT MAKE A RIGHT TURN ON MARSH. THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE SAT IS NOT. SO THAT'S THE SAME SITUATION OH, IS THAT SHIP TO THE LEFT? IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT THE SAME SITUATION. I YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS CERTAINLY CONFUSING. BUT WHAT, WHAT THIS IS A RESULT OF IS THE FACT THAT WESTERN INTERNATIONAL WAS REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN STREETSCAPE. UH, AND, AND IT WASN'T REQUIRED ON ANY OTHER PART OF THAT ROAD. SO THAT IS NOT A TURN LANE. THAT'S JUST THE NORMAL STREET LANE. AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS YOU'VE HAD THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN IMPLEMENTED ON ONE PORTION OF THE VERY END OF THAT PORTION OF THAT ROAD. AND NOWHERE ELSE, MY POINT IS, I HOPE WE CAN IMPLEMENT MORE THAN THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION. WE CAN MAKE IT REAL QUICK, ONE WAY NEEDS DIRECTION WITH PARALLEL PARKING ON EACH SIDE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO DO IT. I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, IT DOESN'T SAY NO PARKING IF WE, IF WE HIT ONTO THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, WHEN LEWIS DRIVE, WHICH WERE, WHICH WE WERE ON, ON THAT PREVIOUS ONE, AND WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS ONE. UM, I'M NOT SURE I'VE SEEN MUCH OF THIS AROUND TOWN OTHER THAN ON, ON EDWIN LEWIS DRIVE, WHERE WE'VE GOT THESE, UH, UH, DISTRIBUTION POLES RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PEDESTRIAN PATH. AND SO WHEN, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY? THE POLLS ARE GOING TO STAY, BUT THERE'LL BE WEBB STREET PARKING IN BETWEEN THE POLLS. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? UM, SO YES, I CAN, I CAN PULL UP THE, UH, THE CYCLINE REAL QUICK AND POINT OUT, UM, WHERE THE POLES ARE ON THE SIDELINE AND HOW IT WON'T AFFECT, UH, IT WON'T, WE WON'T HAVE TO GET RID OF THOSE POLES. THERE WE'LL HAVE TO RE WE WON'T HAVE TO, BUT THE SIDEWALK WILL HEAD TO THE OTHER SIDE. UM, THERE, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE, UH, THE, THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN THE STREET PARKING AND THE SIDEWALK. IF I MAY, THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN REQUIRES AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE, UH, ON-STREET PARKING, SIX FOOT BUFFER, AND THEN AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS PLAN IS WE'RE NOT PROVIDING THE PARKING, THE AICPA PARKING, AND WE'RE KEEPING THE EIGHT FOOT ON THE SIX FOOT AS A LANDSCAPE PLATFORM. SO THE SIDEWALK JUST GOES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, JUST JUMPS UP ON THE POLLS. SO PEOPLE AT HOME, RIGHT. OKAY. SO, UM, ON THE SITE PLAN RIGHT HERE IS WHERE THOSE, UH, THOSE POLLS ARE. SO THIS HERE IS AN EIGHT FOOT, UM, SIDEWALK, AND IT REPLACES THE SIDEWALK THAT GOES DIRECTLY ALONG HEADWIND LEWIS RIGHT HERE. UM, AND THESE ARE THE POWER POLES HERE PLUS THAT FAULT. SO THE, THE SIDEWALK WILL CUT ACROSS RIGHT HERE. OKAY. AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO HAVE STREET PARKING NEAR NOW? SO THESE ARE THE FIVE STREET PARKING SPACES. THEY JUST MODELED THEIR, WHERE THEIR ISLANDS ARE TO WORK AROUND THAT [01:35:01] FERTILITY STUFF OVER HERE. AND ARE WE GOING TO HAVE SOME TREE COVERAGE TO MASK SOME OF THOSE UTILITIES? YES. I MEAN, WE WILL HAVE SOME, UH, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T HAVE IT TOO HIGH BECAUSE OF THE WATCH LINES, BUT WE'LL HAVE SOME LANDSCAPE COVERAGE THERE THAT'S, WHICH IS COVERING THE LANDSCAPE PLAN ON THAT. RIGHT. THE LANDSCAPE PROVIDES FOR THE LAST YEAR PLAN PROVIDES FOR, UH, UH STREETSCAPING. UH, BUT BECAUSE THESE ARE EXISTING UTILITIES AND THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING THEM, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRING THAT. THEY SCREEN THEM. OKAY. AND, AND SO WE'LL, WE WILL IMPLEMENT THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN ON THIS SECTION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT, BUT IT'LL, WE'LL IT JUST STOP THERE ON THAT PROPERTY. WON'T EXTEND OVER TO THE LATE T AND T TELCO BUILDING AND THE RADISSON HOTEL. YES. OKAY. AND COULD WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF ANY TYPE OF REDEVELOPMENT THAT MIGHT BE COMING FROM THOSE TWO? WE WE'VE GOT ANY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THEY MIGHT REDEVELOP, UM, NOT AT THE MOMENT IRELAND. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WE WERE TAKING A LOOK AT, WHAT IS THAT FIVE CAP VAULT, WHAT WE SAW IN THE PHOTOGRAPH, AND THERE WAS A SKI POLES, THOSE, SO THIS, THESE ARE THE POLLS IN THE FALL. YES. UTILITY POLES WITH ELECTRICAL GOING UP THERE. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S PROBABLY A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL COME FROM A TRAY OF FOUR ON THE POLE AND THE CONDO RUN UP THE POLE AND THE SURFACE TO A BUILDING WILL BE UNDERGROUND SERVICE PETS, OR HAD BEEF IN THE PILOT. SO THESE BOLTS WILL BE ALL REALIGNED AND LEVELED AND IT TO, NO, THESE, THESE WERE STAYING IN PLACE AT THE MOST AS THEY ARE. YEAH. I MEAN, IN THE FUTURE, THE CITY DECIDES TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT IN THAT PICTURE, THEY WERE LIKE THAT GUY WIRE AND AROUND THAT BULB AND EVERYTHING BETWEEN THOSE POLES AND THE PACK OF SIDEWALK, IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE LANDSCAPE LANDSCAPE SO WE CAN SORT OF, YEAH. YEAH. AND THE SIDEWALKS ON THE BACKSIDE SO SIGNIFICANT, YOU CAN KIND OF HIDE WITH LITTLE BUSHES AND STUFF OF BLOW STUFF AROUND THERE TO MAKE IT LOOK NICER. I WISH I WOULD'VE THOUGHT OF THIS SOONER, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, ADDISON BEING A MAJOR DESTINATION ON SILVER, SILVER LINE. UM, REAL. AND THE ONLY ONE I COULD THINK THAT WE MIGHT COMPARE OURSELVES TO IN THAT WAY WOULD BE CITYLINE AND RICHARDSON. AND, UM, I WOULD'VE LOVED TO VASQUEZ SOONER, BUT I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT KIND OF PARKING REDUCTIONS THAT RICHARDSON MAY HAVE CREATED FOR THEIR TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. YOU KNOW, IT'D BE HELPFUL. I CAN LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU. AND I THINK, I THINK, YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT'S NOT RELATED TO THIS ITEM. IT WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT TO KNOW. I THINK WE'VE GOT WESTERN INTERNATIONAL HANDLING THIS, MAYBE THIS MORE THAN THE THREE OF THEM. THEY, THEY, JUST, TO ME, THEY SEEM LIKE THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE, ARE AHEAD OF US PARKING REQUIREMENT. IT SEEMS LIKE WE, WE NEED TO GET SOME TYPE OF, WELL, SO EMILY, EMILY IN WESTERN INTERNATIONAL, ALL MEET OURS PARKING STANDARDS OR CURRENT PARKING. RIGHT. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS OUR CURRENT PARKING STANDARDS DON'T HAVE ANY DEDUCTION BUILT IN FOR PRINT FOR, FOR BEING LOCATED AT TRANSPORT. CORRECT. RIGHT, RIGHT. OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GET THAT RIGHT. SO THAT, THAT WAS MY ONLY POINT. IF I MAY, I THINK THE 10% CREDIT CONSIDERATION, THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT THE UDC TAKES INTO THE CONSIDERATION, THE SURROUNDING CITIES AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING. SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THAT THAT CONSIDERATION FOR, FROM CITY LINE IS SIMILAR TO THE 10%. YEAH. BUT WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT PROPOSING THIS MILLION DOLLAR ONE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT WAS RIGHTED BY THE, UH, PROSTATE ACROSS THE STREET. RIGHT. AND I WOULD AGREE, BUT FOR THIS ITEM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO GO YEAH. [01:40:02] ANYMORE, COME WORK, COME, COME COMMUNICATION FOR THIS. PEOPLE HAVE OPENED UP YEP. OKAY. ONE MORE. ONE THAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS, THIS LETTER FROM THE FAA IS TALKING ABOUT THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, 10 IS TALKING ABOUT A NOISE SENSITIVE LAND USES INCLUDE RESIDENCES, WHICH WE GET AND BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THE 65 DECIBEL CONTOUR. AND THAT THE BUSINESSES PART IS KIND OF FRIGHTENING. WE, WE BELIEVE THIS LETTER, WE ARE ALL, WE ARE ALREADY, UM, GOING TO RESPOND TO THE, THE, UH, FAA, BECAUSE WHILE IT'S CLEAR THAT RESIDENTIAL AS IT IS A NON-COMPATIBLE PLANNED USE, UH, THERE ARE ALREADY IDENTIFIED BUSINESS USES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE AND USES. SO OUR RESPONSE TO THIS EMAIL OR THIS, THIS LETTER IS GOING TO INCLUDE A CLARITY THAT MAKES SURE THAT THEY, THEY, THE FAA ARE NOT OVERSTEPPING THEIR BOUNDS WHEN IT COMES TO BUSINESSES INSIDE THE NOISE CONTOURS. UH, SO WE ALREADY ARE AWARE OF REQUIRES OF EXCUSE ME, COMPATIBLE LAND USES. AND SO OUR RESPONSE WILL BE THANK YOU FOR THIS INFORMATION. UH, RESPECTFULLY WE ARE, WE ARE AWARE AND ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE OF COMPATIBLE LAND USES THAT ARE ALLOWED THAT OUR BUSINESSES AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE, UM, UH, THOSE COMPATIBLE LAND USES INSIDE THE NOISE CONTOURS. AND THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY RESPECTFULLY, UM, CAN'T, CAN'T MAKE THIS GROW UNILATERALLY, RIGHT? SO IT'S CLEAR THAT RESIDENTIAL USES ARE AN ISSUE. UH, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE RESPECT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR OPINION, BUT WE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, AND THEY KNOW THAT THERE ARE ALREADY BUSINESSES THAT ARE CONSIDERED COMPATIBLE LAND USES THAT CAN BE ALLOWED WITHIN. I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE THAT ATTACKS EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING WITH HER HOUSE. AND SO A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT GOING ON MODERN, IF THAT MAKES SENSE WHAT WE'RE. YEAH. IF, IF YOU READ THE CIRCLE PARAGRAPH, PARAGRAPH IN THE MIDDLE, ACTUALLY END UP PAGE, YOU WANT TO SEE, UH, THE OBJECTIVE OF A COMPATIBLE LAND USE PLANNING IS TO DISCOURAGE LAND USERS THAT ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH ELKHORN, SUCH AS RESIDENTIAL HOMES, SCHOOLS, WELL, HOUSES OF WORSHIP, RIGHT NEAR AIRPORTS. I THINK THAT'S IS ALREADY SPECIFIED BY CLEARLY. IT'S NOT, I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP. THIS IS NOISE, NOISE, SENSITIVE LAND USE RESIDENTS. THEY ALSO SPECIFY IN WEST WEST UNDERSTAND. UM, YEAH. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT LETTER. YEAH. IT'S SLOPPY. SLOPPY. I'M NOT CLEAR ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY SLOPPY. YOU'RE SAYING NO BUSINESSES. AND CAN WE, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN PULL UP, UH, ARE YOU ALIVE PRESENTATION? UH, PAGE 15. OKAY. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN ZOOM ZOOM? LET'S DO THE, ON THE LEFT IN THE BLUE REPRESENTS THOSE 65 DECIBEL NOISE LEVEL TOUR. AND WE HAVE GOT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ENLARGE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BUSINESSES ALREADY IN THAT. AND THEN IF YOU GO TO A, CAN YOU GO TO PAGE 21 PAGE 23? I APOLOGIZE. I THOUGHT I, UH, NO WORRIES. NO WORRIES. WELL, THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S SO, YEAH. UH, THE SECOND LARGE BUILDING AND BLUE, THE, YEAH, THE SECOND ONE FROM THE LEFT IS THAT UP TO, UP TO EIGHT STORY BUILDING THAT'S THAT'S IN THE 65 DECIBEL AREA AND WE'RE PROPOSING THAT SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO BE IN THE BUILDING, WE'RE PROPOSING COMMERCIAL AND BUSINESS. SO, SO IF YOU'VE READ THE FDA'S LETTER, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT. UM, WE'VE GOT A TON OF BUSINESSES IN 65, 70 PLUS FESTIVAL LEVEL. SO I'M NOT, I AGREE [01:45:01] WITH WHAT WAS SAID. YEAH. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IF YOU WANT TO SEE THIS OTHER RESTAURANTS, ONE OF THE RESTAURANT, ALL ONLINE.COM TOOL. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUSINESSES, NOT A LOT. SO I THINK THAT FOCUS ON THE RESIDENTIAL, BECAUSE I REMEMBER THERE WAS NATIVE. GIVE IT TO ME A MULTIFAMILY DEAL AT HOMEWOOD SUITES, THE SET SIMILAR SITUATION HAVE BEEN THE SAME. THAT'S THE REASON IT, YEAH, WE'VE GOT WHAT, FOUR, FOUR HOTELS. AND YES, BUT THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO BE, UH, RESIDENTIAL, LIKE TOWNHOMES OR HER FAMILY OR SINGLE FAMILY HOME THERE. PEOPLE WHO WILL LATER ON MAYBE SUE SERIOUS COMPLEX. I THINK THAT'S IT. NO PART OF IT IS COMPLAINT REQUEST THIS POINT AS WELL, NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED. WHAT'S THE, WHEN YOU CLARIFIED, ARE YOU GOING TO TEXT DOC AVIATION OR YOU GO TO THE FAA BECAUSE ONE SAID THE LETTER SAID, AND THEY DON'T COME BACK TO US BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE PAINFUL PART. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT? EVERYBODY'S GOOD. PRETTY FLAT OPEN PUBLIC. DON'T BRING THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS ITEM IS LISTED IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF ANYONE IN PUBLIC, WHICH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE DO. SO WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE, SO AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU CAN BE DONE. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. TYLER, CAN YOU HEAR ME? TYLER ADAMS, THE ARCHITECT, UH, I'M AT 100 NORTH COTTONWOOD DRIVE, SUITE ONE OH FOUR IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS. I DON'T REALLY CARE TO SHOW YOU A WHOLE PRESENTATION. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, UM, DURING DISCUSSION. UH, ONE OF WHICH IS THE PARKING AND THE P AND Z HAD SUPPORTED HAVING, UM, HAVING THE PARKING BASED ON NET SQUARE FOOTAGE BECAUSE OF A THRESHOLD OF 50,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH CHANGES THE WHOLE DYNAMIC FROM GROSS TO NET. SO IF YOU'RE UNDER 50,000 SQUARE FEET, THEN YOU GO BY A GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND THEN ONCE OVER YOU GO TO THE NET, UH, IF YOU WERE TO INCLUDE ALL OF OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE WHERE LIKE TWO 46,000 SQUARE FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND IF YOU WERE TO INCLUDE THE GARAGE, IT WOULD GO OVER 50. SO THAT'S WHY THEY CHOSE TO GO THAT WAY. SO WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S A VARIANCE OR, OR WHERE WE'RE, IT'S JUST GOT ON THE CAASPP. UM, NUMBER TWO ON, UH, ON, ON THE SECOND FLOOR PARKING, THERE IS A REQUIRED SEPARATION BETWEEN THAT USE AND SAY OFFICE SPACE ABOVE THAT. AND IN THE DOCUMENTS WE HAVE INCLUDED, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT YOU CAN'T DO SAY, UH, POST-CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS PROTECT THE BARRIER AROUND THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING TO, UM, ALLOW FOR A FUTURE FIRE RATING BETWEEN THOSE TWO, UH, USES. SO WE THAT'S HOW WE'VE, UH, WE'VE INCORPORATED THOSE CONCERNS IN THIS APPLICATION. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE TWO POINTS, UH, THAT, THAT WE HAVE THOSE, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD IN THE P AND Z VIDEO IS THAT IF YOU USE NET SQUARE FOOTAGE, THEN YOU'RE ALSO DEDUCTING THE OUTSIDE TERRORIST BALCONY. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. SO THEN IF YOU ADD ALL THAT IN, THEN WE'RE ABOVE IT. AND SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A CHICKEN OR THE EGG THING. SO, SO BNZ AGREED WITH US ON JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE TWO POINTS. ONE QUESTION, PUBLIC HEARING, AND I KNOW, AND ANY MORE QUESTION DISCUSSION, ALL RIGHT, THIS IS NO, I PROBABLY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. I FEEL BY CLOSING THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION, I JUST WANT TO RECOMMEND, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, AND THIS IS KIND OF COMES BACK TO THE NOISE CONTOUR THING. AND THAT IS, I WISH THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE HERE DOING ANOTHER NOISE CONTOUR STUDY, BECAUSE AS FAR BACK AS 2008, 2007, 2006, WHEN WE WERE WAY BACK THEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO REDEVELOP INWARD AND THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR, WHICH WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING WITH NOW. AND EVERY DEVELOPER THAT WE WENT AND TALKED TO, ALL OF THEM ASK FOR, [01:50:01] IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD HAVE SOME LIVING COMPONENT TO A DEVELOPMENT FOR SOMEBODY TO TRY AND DO SOMETHING WITH THAT PROPERTY? AND THAT'S RIGHT IN THE NOISE COP TO HER. I, I CAN'T, I JUST THINK THAT IN THE LAST 15 YEARS, SINCE WE'VE DONE IT, I DON'T WANT TO, IT WAS 2000 AND 2005, 2005. SO IN 15 YEARS, THE FAA IS REALLY CUT BACK ON ALLOWANCES OF THOSE LOUDER JETS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND I THINK THAT NOT, IT JUST BRINGS IT UP WITH THIS REQUEST FOR RESIDENTIAL, BUT I THINK IN THE FUTURE, IT'S GOING TO HELP US OUT IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT, OKAY, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO COST THEM MONEY, BUT IF IT, IF IT REALLY REDUCES A BUNCH THAT OPENS US UP TO SOME MORE POSSIBILITIES, INCLUDING ALL THAT, THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET. SO THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY RECOMMENDATION. SO DO WE HAVE AN, UH, AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW A NEW CON TO ORDER MAP WOULD, WOULD IT, THEY TEND TO SHRINK BECAUSE OF TECHNOLOGY OR THEY TEND TO GROW? I KNOW I SUSPECT THAT IT'S DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT'S ON THE GROUND, RIGHT? YOU WOULDN'T GET KILLED ON IT, I'M GOING TO STOP GETTING AFFECTED. SO NOTHING'S REALLY CHANGING OTHER THAN THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE VOLUME. WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE LENGTH OF THE RAMP. WE MAY BE MOVING SOME, SOME OF THE, UH, BUSINESSES FURTHER OUT ON THE PERIMETER, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY CAUSE SOME, SOME VARIATION. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY SEE A SHRUGGING OR A LESS OF A FOOTPRINT FOR THAT, FOR THOSE CONTOURS IT'S POSSIBLE. YEAH. I MEAN, LOGIC WOULD, WOULD HOLD THAT IF YOU'RE MAKING AIRPLANES QUIETER, THAT THE NOISE CONTOURS WOULD LIKELY SHRINK. SO, UM, UH, SO THEN FORTUNATELY WAY, WHEN WE HAVE ELECTRIC PLANES, THAT WOULD BE NICE OR WHERE THE JETSONS START TO THEIR HYDROGEN DB, BOB'S WHATEVER WE CALL THEM. SO, YEAH, BUT I MEAN, YOU THINK THAT, THAT, THAT THE QUIETER POINT WOULD RESULT IN A SMALLER NOISE CONTOUR. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT, WE CAN'T JUST MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION THAT FAA REQUIRES US TO ACTUALLY DO. SO THERE'S THE FFA LATE, UH, SUPPLEMENT, UH, COST, UM, HELP THROW IN SOME CASH TO HAVE A CONTOUR EVALUATION DONE. I DON'T, IF WE PURSUED THAT, I, I DON'T KNOW. UH, WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT, UH, MOSTLY THERE, THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF DOLLARS YOU GET FROM THE FAA, YOU GET ENTITLEMENT DOLLARS, UM, AND YOU GET THE SCRATCH DISCRETIONARY DOLLARS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BY ENTITLEMENT DOLLARS, IF IT'S NOT, THEN THE ONLY OPTION IS DISCRETIONARY. AND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT DISCRETIONARY, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS TRYING TO GET DOLLARS IN A COMPETITIVE PROCESS. SO IF, IF YOUR ASK IS NOT AS COMPETITIVE AS SOMETHING ELSE, THEN YOUR, THE LIKELIHOOD OF YOU GETTING DOLLARS FOR THAT TASK IS, IS VERY LOW. SO I DON'T, I OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T HERE WHEN WE DID THIS THE FIRST TIME, BUT I WOULD TELL YOU THAT I WOULD, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE SMART. I WOULD PUT MY MONEY IF I'M, UH, IF I WERE A BETTING MAN, I'D PUT MY MONEY ON NOT GETTING ANY FEDERAL FUNDS FOR IT AND HAVING THE FUNDING FROM OUR HOME, UH, COFFEE, BECAUSE I, THAT, THAT THAT'S A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO THAT. AND I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE COST-EFFECTIVE FOR US SO THAT THERE AREN'T THESE CHALLENGES DOWN THE ROAD. AND WE, WE CAN GO WITH SOME CONFIDENCE THAT, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH CONFIDENCE IN THE TOD AREA, UH, CAUSE THAT THOSE, THOSE DECISIONS ARE COMING UP VERY QUICKLY HERE. WE'RE GOING DOWN THAT ROAD AND, AND KIND OF REMINDS ME OF A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED ON ONE OF OUR PROJECTS THAT WE JUST HAD WHERE WE, UM, WE LOOKED BACK AND SAID, HEY, WE SHOULD HAVE PAID FOR THAT SURVEY AHEAD OF TIME. I THINK THIS WAS, UH, UM, CON CONTOUR SURVEY OR A GRADING SURVEY THAT WE SHOULD HAVE UNDERTAKEN. THAT WAS A LESSON LEARNED FROM, FROM THAT WAS VOICED BY, UH, CON EXCUSE ME, BY THE STAFF. SO I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THIS, OR AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, START GOING DOWN THAT PATH BECAUSE FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS A, THIS COULD BE AN 18 MONTH, 18 MONTH STUDY TO TAKE MOISTURE READINGS. WE DON'T WANT TO BE BEHIND ON THAT. WE WANT TO STAY AHEAD OF THAT CURVE. NOT, NOT WAIT TILL AFTER WE WERE MAKING SOME TO SOME DECISIONS THIS COUNCIL OR NEXT, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT ELECTRIC TALKING ABOUT ON THIS SENSE OF THAT ONLY RICK RECALLING CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH STAFF AND I, IF I RECALL [01:55:01] IT WAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 250 AND $300,000 IN A TIMEFRAME 18 MONTHS, TWO YEARS, WHERE, WHERE ARE YOU WITH WITH GQS SUGGESTION ABOUT THAT IS, IS THE TIMING GOOD ON THIS NOT GREAT PREMATURE OR TOO LATE? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS? WELL, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO STOP OUR TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE I THINK EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE PLANNING SO FAR FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT IS GOING TO BE OUTSIDE THE NOISE CONTOURS. RIGHT. UM, SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T NEED TO DO IT. I THINK IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING TO DO, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SENSE OF URGENCY. THAT'S GOING TO, IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO STOP WHAT WE WANT TO DO OVERALL IN THAT AREA. UM, HAVING IT IS, IS GOING TO BE HELPFUL. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IF YOU RECALL THE ADDISON CIRCLES AREA STUDY, THERE'S ADDISON CENTRAL AND THEN THERE'S ADDISON WEST, RIGHT. AND THAT NOISE CONDOMS WERE ALSO RUNS UP ALONG THAT PROPERTY ON THE, ON THE, WHAT WE CALL ADDISON WEST. AND I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY AT 10, THAT IS CONTEMPLATED TO BE MORE RESIDENTIAL. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT, THAT NOISE CONTOUR STUDY WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE. UM, AND THE TIMING OF THAT IS JUST, THERE'S NOTHING IMMINENT ON THAT. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE KICK THE TIRES ON THAT AREA, BUT NOT NOTHING. SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. SO IF THE CONTOUR SHRINKS AND FEWER COMPONENTS OF WHAT WAS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED OR IN THIS CONTOUR, WOULDN'T THAT MAKE IT MORE VALUABLE. AND IF WE KNOW THAT AHEAD OF TIME, WE CAN, THE DEVELOPERS CAN USE THAT AS A TOOL. AND CONVERSELY, IF IT GOES OUT WELL, THEN THEY'LL UNDERSTAND THAT AHEAD OF TIME. AND IT WON'T NECESSARILY BE A BARGAINING CHIP. SURE. UM, IT WILL BE IN, IT WILL BE ON THE DEVELOPERS FOR THEIR BENEFIT. I THINK, I THINK ALL OF THIS IS GREAT CONVERSATION, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM. SO I THINK, I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD PRESS PAUSE ON THIS AS WE'RE GOING DOWN, WE'RE GOING AWAY LOT. I KNOW BRENDA'S ON THE PHONE AND SHE CAN PLAY, BUT I THINK WE'RE LEAVING THE TOPIC AT HAND. SO I'M HAPPY TO CONVERSE AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS, BUT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE FOCUSING ON. YEAH. YOU KNOW, DO I HAVE MOTION FOR THIS IN A SECOND BEFORE WE TEND TO THE MOTION? IF THERE'S ANY QUIET, OTHERWISE WE'RE GOOD. BOB, YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS? NO, LISTEN, BY ASKING A QUESTION. OKAY. NO QUESTION. SO THE LORD GOT ALL THE ANSWERS, SO, ALL RIGHT. UH, DO I HAVE MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MAYOR ITEM 15 IS PRESENTED. SO I HAVE MOTION FROM PAUL WARDEN AND THE SECOND PHONE LORD IN WAR, ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS ITEM, PLEASE SAY, AYE. POST CONGRATULATIONS. WE'LL MAKE GOLDEN BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK THE 16 [16. Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Changing the Zoning on Property Located at 3820 Belt Line Road, from PD, Planned Development, to a New PD District to Allow a Two-Story Retail and Office Building. Case 1818-Z/3820 Belt Line Road.] CHANGING THE ZONING PROPERTY LOCATED AT 38 20 BILL. I KNEW FROM PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO A NEW PD DISTRICT TO ALLOW TWO-STORY RETAIL AND OFFICE BUILDING IS NUMBER ONE EIGHT ONE EIGHT EIGHT EIGHT 20 BILL WILSON, MARIN CITY COUNCIL. ONCE AGAIN, MY NAME IS WILSON KERR. I'M THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER AND THE INTERIM PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. SO CASE 18, 18, Z A 38, 20 BELTLINE IS A PROPOSAL FOR A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO ALLOW FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A TWO-STORY 3,223 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF BELTLINE ROAD AND COMMERCIAL DRIVE, SORRY, SOUTHWEST CORNER. UM, THIS, UH, 2.034 ACRE PROPERTY IS PART OF A LARGE PD THAT APPLIES TO SEVERAL PROPERTIES, INCLUDING ADDISON TOWN CENTER. THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY CONTAINS A ONE-STORY RESTAURANT BUILDING PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY HUNDREDS RESTAURANT AND GROUP UP. UH, THE BUILDING HAS BEEN VACANT VACANT SINCE 2017, [02:00:02] UH, ADDISON RETAIL LLC RECENTLY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY WITH THE INTENT TO DEVELOP A RETAIL CENTER. UH, GIVEN THE EXISTING SITE, UH, IS GOVERNED BY THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLANS. UH, SUCH AS SUCH ACTION REQUIRES A REZONING. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP A NEW TWO-STORY SERVICE PARKS, RETAIL, AND OFFICE BUILDING. THE BUILDING IS PROPOSED TO BE 3,203 SQUARE FEET WITH, UH, JUST OVER 2,500 SQUARE FEET OF FIRST FLOOR RETAIL AND 720 SQUARE FEET OF SECOND FLOOR OFFICE. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE AND WILL NOT REPLACE THE EXISTING RESTAURANT SPACE. UH, THE PROPOSED NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT WILL BE BASED IN PART ON THE BELTLINE DISTRICT STANDARDS, UH, AS WELL AS THE STREETSCAPE STANDARDS ESTABLISHED BY THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN. THE PROPOSED BUILDING WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 25 FEET, AND WE'LL BE SET BACK 94 FEET FROM THE CURB ALLOWING FOR TWO ROWS OF PARKING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING MEETING, UH, MEETING BELTLINE DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS. UH, THE PROS DEVELOPMENT HAS A BLOCK FACE OF JUST UNDER 160 SQUARE FEET, SORRY, FEET. UM, WHILE THIS DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM BLOCK LENGTH OF THE, UH, BELTLINE DISTRICT STAFF BELIEVES THAT THIS IS ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE IT, THE OVERALL SITE HAS A SMALL LENGTH, WHICH IS 420 SQUARE FEET, AND IT WOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY POSSIBLE TO HIT THOSE MINIMUM BLOCK LENGTHS OF 200 FEET IN DEVELOPING DISTRICT STANDARDS. THE BELTLINE DISTRICT STANDARDS REQUIRE A CONFORMITY WITH THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHICH REQUIRES THE DEVELOPMENT, A DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE BELTLINE TO HAVE A 14 FOOT SIDEWALK DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE, UH, THE BUILDING FACADE, AN 18 FOOT ROW OF PARKING 24 FOOT DRIVE AISLE, ANOTHER 18 FOOT ROW OF PARKING, AND THEN FOUR FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK PROTECTED BY AN EIGHT FOOT PARKWAY BUFFER FROM BELTLINE ROAD. THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN SHOWS A 14.8 FOOT SIDEWALK DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING AN 18 FOOT ROW OF PARKING, A 24 FOOT DRIVE AISLE, A 17.7 A FOOT ROW OF PARKING, A 3.4, A FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, AND EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK, UH, TO THE BACK OF THE CURB AND AN 8.2 FOOT PARKWAY BUFFER. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE BELTLINE DISTRICT STANDARDS, UM, AND THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, EXCEPT FOR THE ROW OF PARKING ADJACENT TO BELTLINE, WHICH IS FIVE INCHES, LESS THAN MINIMUM, UM, PARKING SPACE LENGTH. THIS WAS ALLOWED IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE BELTLINE, THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE AND STREETSCAPE PLANS MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS. UM, AND THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO PROVIDE 50% OF THE FUNDING FOR THE LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG BELTLINE, INCLUDING THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS. AND THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY IN FRONT OF THE SITE. THE BOWLING DISTRICT PARKING, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR RETAIL USE IS ONE PARKING SPACE PER 200 SQUARE FEET. AND FOR RESTAURANT USE IT'S ONE PARKING SPACE FOR 100 SQUARE FEET FOR OFFICE IT'S ONE PER 300 SQUARE FEET. YOU PROPOSED A 10,382 SQUARE FOOT, UH, EXISTING RESTAURANT SPACE. WE NEED 112 PARKING SPACES. THE 2,500 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL WOULD REQUIRE 13 PARKING SPACES AND THE 720 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE SPACE WOULD REQUIRE THREE PARKING SPACES, ALL TOTALING, 128 PARKING SPACES. AND THE PLANTS PROVIDE EXACTLY 128 PARKING SPACES, MEETING REQUIREMENTS. UM, WHILE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH, UH, THE BLOCK LINKS AND THE BLOCK FACE, UH, AND SOME OF THE STREETS GAVE HIM REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING THAT, UM, ONE 17.7 FOOT ROW PARKING, UH, STAFF LEAVES AT THE DEVELOPMENT MEETS THE FUTURE VISION FOR BELTLINE AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. AND I'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTION. YEAH. OKAY, COOL. UM, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK, UH, ADDISON RESIDENT JANE LENT, UM, WHO LIVES EXTREMELY CLOSE TO THIS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. AND, UH, SHE PROVIDED, UH, SOME HELPFUL INSIGHT THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ON SOME OF HER COMMUNICATIONS WAS, IS THIS GOING TO HAVE AN ENHANCED BUS STOP IN FRONT OF IT, OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE THE BENCH JANET, JANET CAN SPEAK TO THAT? ERIC COUNCIL, JANET DID WELL DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE BELTLINE ONE WE'VE HAD PROJECTS CURRENTLY UNDER SPECIFICALLY THIS PORTION, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THAT PROPERTY, IT WILL NOT HAVE A BUS SHELTER, BUT IT WILL HAVE A BUS STOP THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN PLANNED FOR THAT'S WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE MASTER PLAN. SO THAT INCLUDES A BENCH AND A TRASHCAN, AND I BELIEVE SOME ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AROUND IT. OKAY. OKAY. WELL, I LOVE WHAT YOU'VE GOT THAT. MIKE, LET ME ASK YOU ONE, ONE MORE, MAYBE [02:05:01] WORK-RELATED QUESTIONS. WE KNOW HOW MANY TREES WE MIGHT LOSE OR, OR, AND, OR ADD, UM, WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. UM, LET ME HAVE OWNERS SPEAK AND THEN I'LL BRING UP THE, THE SITE PLAN. OKAY. I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT'S ON THAT. UH, THERE'S A TREE MITIGATION PAGE OF THE PLANS. IT WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY PARK. SO I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT ALL THE TREES ARE ACCOUNTED FOR. I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IN THAT EMAIL FROM WAS ALSO ABOUT WHERE THAT WAS, THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME CONFUSION THAT WILL NOT BE IN THESE PLANS BECAUSE IT IS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. CORRECT? CORRECT. IT'S OUR PLAN, THE TOWN'S PLANS FOR THE BELTLINE 1.5 PROJECT. UM, AND TYPICALLY YOU MAY SEE ELEMENTS LIKE THAT ON A DEVELOPMENT PLAN BECAUSE THEY'RE SURVEYED BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILT. UM, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTING OUR PORTION OF THE PROJECT AS THEY'RE DESIGNING THEIR PORTION. SO THAT'S, MY THAT'S NOT SHOWN ON THE PLANS. LIKE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT EMAIL WAS FROM JANUS THAT WE'RE CONCERNED IS MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CHANGES THAT ARE FOR THE BUS STOP ARE SHOWING SOMEWHERE. IT DOES, LIKE YOU SAID, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO CALL IT. THIS ONE, I BELIEVE YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO GO ON THIS PROJECT. HOWEVER, I THINK WE NEED TO REASSURE OUR CONSTITUENTS, THAT WE WERE CAPTURING THAT AS BUILT CONDITION FOR HISTORICAL PURPOSES. AND THAT NEEDS TO GO ON TO THE PROJECT THAT THOSE COMPONENTS ARE PUT INTO, WHICH WOULD BE 0.5. AND THAT WOULD FALL TO THAT INFORMATION BEING INCLUDED ON THOSE CONTRACT FINAL AS-BUILT DRAWINGS, WE'RE GOING TO GET THOSE AND WE WILL, WE WILL GET AS BUILT ON THIS PROJECT. WOULD YOU GET, AS ON ALL OF OUR PROJECTS, THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. AND IT WAS, IT WAS PART OF THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION, NOT EXCUSE ME, THE BELTLINE 1.5 MASTER PLAN. SO NOT ONLY WAS IT THERE FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT, IT WILL ALSO SHOW UP ON THE AS-BUILT ONCE IT'S COMPLETE. THAT'S GREAT. IT WAS AN ALTERNATE. SURE. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE REASON IT WAS AN ALTERNATE AT THE TIME WAS BECAUSE WE WERE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW, IF THE, IF THE DEVELOPER GOING TO PARTICIPATE FINANCIALLY IN THE COST TO DO THE WORK THAT THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING, SHOULD THEY REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY. AND SO THAT WASN'T RESOLVED UNTIL AFTER THE CONTRACT WAS APPROVED. WE DID INCLUDE THAT AS A BID ALTERNATE, AND WE GOT COSTS FOR THAT. AND SO ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO FINALIZE THE FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION FROM THE DEVELOPER, WE'VE SINCE MOVED FORWARD. AND IN FACT, AS WE MAY NOT HAVE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IT'S NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, BUT, UH, IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY. SO IT WILL BE DONE. JEN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE, ESPECIALLY GOING TO HEAD DOWN THE VERY SAME DAY? OKAY. LET ME SEE IF I CAN REAL QUICK. I'M SORRY. THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT TREES. WE WANT TO ANSWER THEM IF WE CAN. SURE. I'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION. UM, THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND LETTING US PULL UP THE PLAN AND LOOK AT IT. WE HAVE ACTUALLY SEE A LOT OF PLANS COME ACROSS OUR DESK. AND THIS ONE DIDN'T JUMP OUT TO ME OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT WE WERE TAKING OUT ANY SIGNIFICANT TREES. AND WHEN WE PULL UP THE PLAN, IT DOES INDICATE THAT THERE'S NOT ANY TREES BEING REMOVED, BUT THERE'S ADDITIONAL TREES BEING PLANTED. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. CAN YOU, UH, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE LAST PART OF THE EMAIL ABOUT, UH, SAFEGUARDING ASHBURY CIRCLE PROPERTY? CAN YOU READ THE EMAIL, BE SURE. AND TAKING A CLOSER LOOK. THIS IS FROM, UH, THIS IS NOVEMBER 9TH, EMAIL CHANGE THE LENS AND TAKING A CLOSER LOOK AT THE NEW SITE PLANS. I NOTICED ON PAGE SEVEN, THAT IRRIGATION ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE, WILL TIE INTO EXISTING IRRIGATION. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ASHBURY CIRCLES IRRIGATION EXTENDS INTO THE SOUTH SIDE AREA. I BELIEVE THE BOUNDARY OF ASHBURY CIRCLES PROPERTY IS AT LEAST TO THE BACK TO THE BLACK METAL FENCING. ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, ASBERRY CIRCLE ALSO OWNED SOME OF THE BUFFER ZONE ON THAT SIDE. IT APPEARS THAT THE NEW PLANS WILL EXTEND INTO THE BUFFER ZONE TWO AND POSSIBLY INTO THE EXISTING ROAD, WHICH MEANS IT MAY BE EXTENDING INTO ASBURY CIRCLES, PROPERTY, INCLUDING OUR IRRIGATION. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT ERA. I'M CONCERNED THAT AS BERRY CIRCLES, BLACK [02:10:01] FENCE, ISN'T INDICATED IN THE NEW PLANTS. TO ME, THAT MEANS IT MAY BE TAKEN DOWN. I CONTACTED OUR PROPERTY MANAGER ABOUT THE IRRIGATION ISSUE. I SUGGEST SOMEONE CONTACT ASHBURY CIRCLES MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO MAKE SURE ALL BOUNDARIES ARE BEING OBSERVED CORRECTLY, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE LOCATION MAP IS INCORRECT. AND THE SITE PLANS FAILED TO INDICATE ASBURY CIRCLE BOUNDARIES. I CAN ANSWER THAT. SO I'M GOING TO PLAY IT DOWN REAL QUICK. UM, SO THE, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY GOES ON THE PRO A PRIVATE LINE THAT DRIVE THAT GOES DIRECTLY THROUGH THAT CONNECTS COMMERCIAL DRIVE, RIGHT ABOUT HERE, UM, TO THE PROPERTY, AND THEN CONNECTS DOWN THIS WAY TO COMMERCIAL DRIVE AGAIN, UM, GETTING ACCESS TO ADDISON TOWN CENTER, THE PROPERTY, UH, THAT MS. LYNCH IS REFERRING TO YOU. I, I WILL HAVE, IF JANET CAN SPEAK TO IRRIGATION, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I CAN SPEAK TO THE PROPERTY LINE. UM, IS THIS HERE, WHICH IS LOCATED, UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE AND WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED ON BY THIS PROPERTY? SO THE PROPERTY LINE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS IT THE PRIVATE DRIVE AND THEY CROSS THE STREET OR WHERE THE, UH, THE BLACK FENCES ARE PLUS THAT OPEN SPACE. AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE PLANTS. SO TO SPEAK TO THE CONCERN THAT THE BLACK FENCES INDICATED ON THE NEW PLANS, I GUESS THAT KIND OF ANSWERED THAT, LIKE WHY IT'S NOT RIGHT. I BELIEVE WILSON INDICATED THAT THE BLACK FENCE IS ACTUALLY OUTSIDE OF THE SURVEYED AREA. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT ON THE PLANS. THE PLANS SHOW, UM, THE SURVEY OF THIS PROPERTY. UM, I CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE IRRIGATION. IT IS PRIVATE IRRIGATION, BUT WE DID MODIFY OR ARE IN THE PROCESS OF MODIFYING THE IRRIGATION FOR THIS PROPERTY THAT YOU SEE HERE FOR THE BELTLINE 1.5 PROJECT, AND OUR STAFF HAS RUN THROUGH THEIR IRRIGATION ZONES. UM, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT INDICATES THAT THEIR IRRIGATION, UM, WOULD OVERLAP THAT OF ASBURY CIRCLES, BUT AS THIS PROJECT DEVELOPS, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE, UM, WORKING ON A PROJECT IS YOU HAVE YOUR NEIGHBOR TURN ON THEIR IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND EVERYBODY AGREES. YES, IT WORKS. AND HERE'S THE BOUNDARIES. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE STEPS THAT WOULD GO THROUGH AS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT. AND IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE LIKE THAT, IT WOULD JUST BE RESOLVED DURING CONSTRUCTION. THANK YOU. ANOTHER QUESTION IN THE EMAILS WAS ABOUT THE NOTE, THE NAMING OF THE STREETS. COULD YOU SHOW COMING FROM BELTLINE, IF SOMEONE TURNS IN WORK COMMERCIAL WOULD BE HOW IT WILL TURN IT INTO THE PRIVATE DRIVE? JUST CLARIFY THOSE. YES. HONESTLY, IT MIGHT JUST BE EASIER TO SHOW IT, TO BRING UP GOOGLE MAPS TO SHOW YOU ALL REAL QUICK, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. OKAY. NOW. OKAY. SO WITH THE NAMING OF THE STREETS, UM, THAT WAS, UH, AN ERROR FROM OUR, UM, IN OUR SHAPE FILES FOR GIS, WHICH WE USED YOUR NAME STREETS. UM, WE'VE SINCE FIXED THAT. AND I CAN UPDATE THAT. UH, AND I, I HAVE UPDATED THAT. IT'S NOT ON THE, UH, STANFORD BOARD THAT I'VE HAD, I GAVE YOU, BUT I CAN'T UPDATE THAT IN THERE FOR OUR RECORDS, FROM HIS LENS. UM, SO COMING IN I'LL USE THE POINTER. UH, SO COMING IN OFF THE BELTLINE, YOU WOULD TURN IN ONTO COMMERCIAL, AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE A RIGHT THROUGH THIS PRIVATE DRIVE HERE. AND THIS IS THE AREA WHERE THE NEW DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE HERE. AND SO THE PRIVATE DRIVE THAT IS SHOWN ON THERE IS RIGHT ALONG, IT CONNECTS COMMERCIAL FROM TWO ENDS TO THE SITE. YEAH. SO THIS IS COMMERCIAL TRIP GOING. THIS IS, THIS IS COMMERCIAL DRIVE GOING ALONG HERE. AND THAT TURNS INTO TO ASBURY LANE EVER. WOULD THE PRIVATE DRIVE HERE? DOESN'T, UM, [02:15:01] I DON'T BELIEVE IT HAS A NAME ON, SO IT'S AN ON THE MAPS, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT USES TO CONNECT TO COMMERCIAL DRUGS FROM THOSE STUDENTS. AND IT'S EXISTING. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I REALLY APPRECIATE TO JANE LYNN AND SALSA FOR HELPING CLARIFY. YEP. I'VE GOT IT. UM, ONE, ONE MORE. AND I WAS LOOKING AT THE PLANS AND I THINK ON THE SETBACKS, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS THE NEW PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, IS IT, IS IT, IS IT KIND OF ALIGN WITH THE OLD HUMPERDINCK BUILDING OR IS IT FULL SET BACK A LITTLE BIT FOR THE LINES? UM, SO IT ALIGNS WITH THE EASTERN PORTION OF, OF, OF HUMPERDINCK. UH, SO IT DOES ALIGN WITH THE BUILDING. YES, IT DOES. OKAY. MIGHT BE SET BACK A COUPLE OF FEET FROM IT, BUT IT'S A PATIO OR SOMETHING. MAYBE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING. IT JUST KIND OF THREW ME OFF A LITTLE BIT, BUT, OKAY. THANK YOU. AND ONE QUESTION, ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS ITEM IS LISTED THE PROPERTY HERE, RIGHT? IF ANYONE WOULD PROBABLY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE DO. SO DO YOU BELIEVE THAT, UH, GREG MATTHIAS, WHO WERE THE DEVELOPERS AND THE PROPERTY OWNER ARE ON THE LINE IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR IS HE ON THE ZOOM? I BELIEVE SO. YES. AND THE APPLICANT ERAS, GREG. GREG, ARE YOU THERE THAT GREG SCOTTY? GREG? YEAH. GREG, CAN YOU HEAR US? OKAY. BIAS RIBS ARE ON THE LINE FAST BEYOND GETTING GOOD HERE. MUTE YOUR, UH, YOUR AUDIO FOR THE VIDEO, PLEASE. YES. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME BEFORE YOU START. YEAH, SURE. MAIN STREET IN PERSPECTIVE. AND YET GREG COUNTY HERE, AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY OWNER. YEAH. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE? I THINK PRIMARILY WE'RE JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE. I THINK THE STAFF REPORT THAT WE'LL ENGAGE IN COMPENSATED, UM, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE TALKING RIGHT HERE, UM, MORE SO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAKE AT THIS POINT THAT MIGHT COME UP. I THINK, UH, WE'VE GOT A DEBUG, MOST OF THE, UM, CONCERNS THAT THE NEIGHBOR HAD. THE, I THINK IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION WITH THAT PRIVATE DRIVE, BUT NOT ACTUALLY COMING FROM THE PRIVATE AS A PRIVATE DRIVE. UM, SO MOST OF THE CONCERNS THERE, I THINK OUR ADDRESS JUST IN THE ADJACENT PARCEL, THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY AFFECTED BY THE DROUGHT. ANY MORE QUESTION FOR THE OWNER. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NO QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN DECIDED WAS THE LINE, THE TOP OF WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS SIDE, TIM. I HEREBY CLOSE AND PROBABLY GUILTY. SO ANY MORE DISCUSSION? NOPE. I'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL. ALRIGHT, SO MOTION BY MODELING WILSON. SECOND REVIEWS IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS OFF YOU SAY, ALL RIGHT, ITEM 17, [17. Present and Discuss the Finance Department Quarterly Financial Report of the Town of Addison for the Fiscal Year 2020 Fourth Quarter Ended September 30, 2020. ] PRESENT, DISCUSS THE FINANCING. WHAT ARE THE FINANCIAL [02:20:01] REWARD OF THIS CON EDISON FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 FOURTH? THE QUARTER ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2020 STEVEN IS THAT READ THIS REPORT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BETTER THAN MOST PEOPLE EXPECTED MUCH BETTER THAN EXPECTED , BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS MUCH BETTER. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, STEVEN WHITMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. ONE SECOND, WHILE I PULL UP THE PRESENTATION AND SHARE MY SCREEN HERE. AND THIS IS OUR, UH, QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT, UH, FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 2020. THIS IS THE FINAL, UH, QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. I GOING INTO OUR KEY REVENUE SOURCES. UH, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, WE DID PERFORM MUCH BETTER THAN ANTICIPATED IN SEVERAL AREAS. UH, AS FAR AS PROPERTY TAXES GO, WE BROUGHT IN, UH, ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE BUDGET JUST AT 99 POINT 63%. THE REALLY SURPRISING AREA THOUGH, IS AN ON-PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH COMPRISE BOTH SALES TAX AND MIXED BEVERAGE TAXES. UH, WE ACTUALLY EXCEEDED, UH, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET THERE, UH, BRINGING IN 102.37% OF THE BUDGETED REVENUE. UM, HOTEL TAX IS THE AREA THAT WAS MOST, UH, HIT, UH, NEGATIVELY BY THE COVID PEN PANDEMIC, UH, ENDING THE FISCAL YEAR AT JUST UNDER 50%, 56% OF THOSE REVENUES COLLECTED, UH, FRANCHISE FEES. UH, AND THE GENERAL FUND ENDED AT 94 POINT 44%, UH, REVENUE COLLECTED, UH, SERVICE PERMITTING AND LICENSE FEES EXCEEDED THE BUDGET BY 6.37%, UH, RENTAL INCOME, ALL FUNDS, UH, ENDED AT 90 POINT 61%. AND THE REASON THAT THOSE PRIMARILY CAME IN UNDER BUDGET WAS RELATED TO THE CLOSURE OF THE CONFERENCE CENTER, UH, FINES AND PENALTIES DUE TO LESS TRAFFIC IN THE TOWN. THERE WERE LESS CITATIONS ISSUED. UH, AND ALSO THERE WERE, UH, WE'RE INDIGENCY, UH, CLAIMS AND, UH, ADDITIONALLY, SOME, UH, MORE LENIENT, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH REGARDS TO ASSESSING FINES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO THAT, THAT, UH, REVENUE, YOUR SOURCE THERE ENDED IT JUST UNDER 62%, UM, SPECIAL EVENTS REVENUE ENDED AT 8.2, 5% OF OUR BUDGET WITH ALL THE SPECIAL EVENTS BEING CANCELED FOR FISCAL YEAR 20. THAT'S NOT UNEXPECTED. UH, ANOTHER, ANOTHER VERY GOOD SIGN IS IN THE AREA OF FUEL FLOW HBS, WHICH WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT, WE DROPPED DOWN TO ABOUT 5% OF NORMAL, NORMAL FUEL FLOW HBS FOR APRIL, AND THEN THOSE STARTED TO RAMP UP. AND THEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, THEY'VE BEEN, UH, EXCEEDING WHAT WE EVEN ANTICIPATED WITH THE ORIGINAL BUDGET. SO WE ENDED THE FISCAL YEAR AT JUST UNDER 95% OF THAT REVENUE SOURCE BEING COLLECTED AND THEN WATER AND SEWER CHARGES. BASICALLY THOSE REVENUES ENDED RIGHT AT BUDGET AT 99.9 ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE. MORE GOOD NEWS WHEN THE GENERAL FUND, UH, THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET WAS UNDER 93% EXPENDED AT 92 POINT 96% ON THE HOTEL FUND, JUST OVER 50% OF THE BUDGET WAS SPENT DURING THE FISCAL YEAR. UH, THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THE DECREASE WAS THE CANCELLATION OF THE SPECIAL EVENTS. UH, ALSO THE CLOSURE OF THE CONTRACT CENTER, UH, FOR ROUGHLY HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR CONTRIBUTED TO THAT AS WELL. UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, JUST UNDER 74% OF THEIR BUDGET WAS SPENT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, UH, AIRPORT OPERATIONS JUST UNDER 91% OF THE BUDGET WAS SPENT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN IN UTILITY OPERATIONS, 93 POINT 53% OF THAT BUDGET WAS SPENT IN THE FISCAL YEAR. SO OVERALL ALL FUNDS THE LOW BUDGET. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY A POSITIVE SIGN, UH, PERSONNEL INFORMATION. UM, THERE WERE 13 SEPARATIONS DURING THE FOURTH QUARTER. UH, SEVEN OF THOSE WERE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE CLOSURE OF THE CONFERENCE CENTER. UH, IN THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THERE WAS ONE IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, ONE IN FINANCE, [02:25:01] ONE IN GENERAL SERVICES, UH, ONE IN MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS, UH, ONE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEN ONE IN RECREATION. AND JUST TO NOTE, THERE WERE SEVERAL, UH, I BELIEVE THREE RETIREMENTS OF LONG-TERM TERM EMPLOYEES, UH, WITHIN THOSE OTHER SIX, UH, SEPARATIONS THERE, UH, NEW HIRES, BENEFITED POSITIONS, THERE WERE FIVE NEW HIRES, UH, DURING THE FOURTH QUARTER, UH, THERE WAS TWO IN PUBLIC, WORKS, ONE IN PARKS AND TWO IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE, I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION A CHANGE, UH, THAT, UM, DIFFERS FROM THE REPORT THAT WAS IN THE PACKET. AND THIS IS BASED ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING, UH, YESTERDAY, UH, PREVIOUSLY UNDER THE PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, SMART POSITION SECTION DOWN THERE. WE WERE LISTING ALL OF THE, UM, UH, POSITIONS IN THOSE, IN THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT, NOT JUST THIS MORE POSITION. SO WE'VE CHANGED THAT TO JUST INCLUDE, UH, THE SWORN POSITIONS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SWORN POSITIONS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO THERE ARE 66 SWORN POSITIONS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CURRENTLY 63 OF THOSE ARE FILLED, UH, YESTERDAY AT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, I MISTAKENLY SAID THERE WERE 64. I WAS LEAVING OUT THE ASSISTANT CHIEF AND THE POLICE CHIEF. SO WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THEM OUT. SO THERE ARE ACTUALLY 66. UH, THIS IS FOR FOURTH QUARTER FISCAL YEAR 2020. SO IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. AND THEN IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE 56 SWORN BUDGETED POSITIONS, AND THEN THERE ARE 57 FILLED POSITIONS BECAUSE THERE IS ONE FIELD ECONOMIC INDICATORS, UH, SOME VERY, YOU KNOW, SOME GOOD NEWS HERE AND SOME, SOME NOT SO GOOD NEWS. YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, STARTING ON THE TOP, LEFT THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. YOU CAN SEE THE VERY LARGE SPIKE, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, THE TIMEFRAME THAT THE PANDEMIC BEGAN, THEN A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DECLINE. AND THEN IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, THAT THAT BEGINS TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT AGAIN, I BELIEVE THAT IN THE MONTHS TO FOLLOW, UH, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, THAT IS COMING DOWN AGAIN A LITTLE BIT. SO I THINK OVERALL RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TRENDING IN A MORE POSITIVE DIRECTION, UH, HOTEL REVENUE PER AVAILABLE ROOM. YOU CAN SEE THE VERY SHARP DECLINE THERE AGAIN, UH, BEGINNING WHERE THE PANDEMIC STARTED. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THERE, ALTHOUGH IT IS INCREASED, IT IS NOT INCREASED AS SIGNIFICANTLY AS WE WOULD WANT. WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, BUT THE, UH, REVENUE GENERATED PER ROOM HAS NOT REBOUNDED TO, UH, ANYWHERE NEAR THAT. THE LEVEL THAT IT TRADITIONALLY IS, UH, ADDISON HOTEL STATISTICS. AND THIS INCLUDES, UH, BOTH THE ROOM RATE, UH, THE REVENUE PER AVAILABLE ROOM, AND THEN THE OCCUPANCY. SO THE GREEN BAR IS THE ROOM RATE. YOU CAN SEE, UH, WHEN THE PANDEMIC STARTED, UH, THAT RUE RATES FELL, UH, BECAUSE IN ADDITIONAL, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE OCCUPANCY FELL VERY SHARPLY, THE OCCUPANCY, WHILE IT HAS COME BACK A LITTLE BIT, UH, IT STARTED TO TAIL OFF A LITTLE BIT AS FAR AS THE INCREASES MONTH OVER MONTH. UH, AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE REVENUE PER AVAILABLE ROOM WHILE INCREASING IS STILL NOT BACK TO, UH, PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS. UH, OCCUPANCY INDICATORS, UH, OVERALL, UH, OFFICE OCCUPANCY IS DOWN 3% FROM THE FOURTH QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 2019. OUR RETAIL OCCUPANCY IS DOWN 1.2% FROM THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 2019. SO ALL IN ALL WITH REGARDS TO THE CURRENT STATE OF THE ECONOMY AND THE PANDEMIC, THOSE ARE NOT, UH, TERRIBLE NUMBERS AS FAR AS OCCUPANCY IS, UH, THE MORE TROUBLING ONES ARE RELATED TO THE HOTEL INDICATORS. UM, HOTEL OCCUPANCY, UH, WAS 33.2% FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER, A 29.2% DECREASE FROM THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR, 2019, AND THEN REVENUE PER AVAILABLE ROOM, UH, AT $24 AND 43 CENTS, UH, ABOUT A 58.5% DECREASE FROM THE SAME QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 20, UH, ON A BETTER NOTE, UH, PERMITS ISSUED IN VALUATION. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE LAST FOUR FISCAL YEARS. THOSE HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY CONSISTENT, NOT ONLY WITH THE NUMBER OF PERMITS ISSUED, BUT THE, UH, VALUATION OF THOSE PERMITS. AND THEN IN THE QUARTERLY PERMIT ACTIVITY YEAR OVER YEAR, WHILE THE FOURTH QUARTER WAS, HAD HAD, UH, FEWER PERMITS THAN, THAN ISSUED, UH, IN THE THREE PRIOR FISCAL YEARS. OVERALL, THE ACTIVITY IS BASICALLY IN LINE WITH, WITH [02:30:01] WHAT WE'VE SAID, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES. WE CURRENTLY HAVE FIVE EXECUTED AGREEMENTS. UH, THE COMMITTED AMOUNT IS $480,334. AND THE AMOUNT THAT WAS PAID OUT IN FISCAL YEAR 20, UH, WAS $384,869. AND THEN FOURTH QUARTER SALES TAX COMPARISON WITH CARROLLTON FARMERS BRANCH IN RICHARDSON. UH, WE HAD A 6% DECREASE, UH, QUARTER OVER QUARTER, OR I'M SORRY, A YEAR OVER YEAR FROM THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 2019 TO THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 2020, UH, CARROLLTON HAD A 2% DECREASE, UH, FARMER'S BRANCH AT 5% DECREASE IN RICHARDSON, HAD A 3% INCREASE. I LOOKED AT ALL OF THESE CITIES, INCLUDING OURS, AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO COMPARE SOMETIMES BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU HAVE SIGNIFICANT AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS OR PREPAYMENTS, AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WITHIN THIS QUARTER, ALL FOUR OF THE CITIES ACTUALLY, UH, SALES TAX COLLECTIONS, AND THIS SHOWS, UH, THE LAST THREE FISCAL YEARS TO SPEAR 2018, 2019 2020, UH, THE VERY LARGE BAR THAT IS GREEN IS RELATED TO AN AUDIT ADJUSTMENT IN FISCAL YEAR 20. THE TWO VERY HIGH BARS THAT ARE BLUE ARE RELATED TO TWO AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS, UH, BACK IN 2018. OTHER THAN THAT, YOU CAN SEE THE VERY CONSISTENT NATURE OF THE TOWN SALES TAX, UH, THE LAST, UH, FEW MONTHS, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE PANDEMIC, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT HAVE EXCEEDED THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR. AND WE'VE HAD A FEW MONTHS THAT HAVE, UH, BEEN BELOW, UH, WHAT, UH, THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR BROUGHT IN. UH, HOWEVER, UH, IT HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN WHAT WE ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED, UH, WHEN WE, UH, EVALUATED OUR INITIAL IMPACTS RELATED TO, AND SALES TAX COLLECTIONS. THIS, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN TOTAL, UH, OUR SALES TAX COLLECTIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020, LIKE SEATED THE BUDGET BY ABOUT $602,000 OR 4.4% OF THE BUDGET AND AMOUNT. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE LAST SIX MONTHS WE HAD SOME DECREASES FROM THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR, AND THAT WAS RELATED TO PANDEMIC. IF NOT FOR THE PANDEMIC, WE WERE PROBABLY ON PACE TO EXCEED WHAT WE BROUGHT IN, UH, LAST THIS QUARTER, UH, BREAKDOWN OF SALES TAX BY ECONOMIC CATEGORY. UH, YOU CAN SEE OUR MAJOR SALES TAX GENERATORS. YOU CAN SEE HOW DIVERSE THE TOWN IS WITH REGARDS TO WHAT MAKES UP OUR SALES TAX BASE, UH, ACCOMMODATIONS AND FOOD SERVICE ARE RIGHT AT ABOUT 11% CONSTRUCTION, 10% INFORMATION, 16% MANUFACTURING IS AT 4%. UH, PROFESSIONAL SCIENTIFIC TECHNICAL SERVICES ARE AT 8%. OUR RETAIL IS OUR BIGGEST GROUP THERE AT 23%. A WHOLESALE TRADE IS A 13%, AND THEN ALL OTHER CATEGORIES, UH, ARE AT 15%, UH, GENERAL FUND REVENUE. UH, IN TOTAL GENERAL FUND REVENUE, UH, IS, IS EXCEEDING THE BUDGET BY ABOUT $700,000. WE'RE JUST, UH, ABOUT 1.7% BEYOND WHAT WE BUDGETED, WHICH GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES IS OUTSTANDING NEWS. UH, THE TWO AREAS THAT ARE NOTED HERE ARE WE AT SIGNIFICANT DELINQUENT TAX REFUNDS. UH, THOSE ARE RELATED TO, UH, LITIGATION RELATED TO PRIOR YEAR TAXES. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER AREA THERE IS RELATED TO COURT FINES, WHICH I NOTED EARLIER, UH, DUE TO LESS ACTIVITY, LESS FINES, UM, MORE INDIGENCY CLAIMS, AND THEN, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE LENIENT THAN THERE, UH, ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, UH, THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET IS COMING IN AT 93% OF WHAT WAS BUDGETED. UH, THE ONLY DEPARTMENT THAT'S SLIGHTLY, UH, IS ON TRACK EXCEED THEIR BUDGET BY 0.1% IS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND THAT IS JUST RELATED TO SOME PERSONNEL COSTS, UH, SLIGHTLY EXCEEDING THEIR BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020, UH, IN TOTAL, UM, VERY POSITIVE NEWS WITH REGARDS TO WHERE OUR EXPENDITURES ARE LANDING, UH, THE HOTEL FUND ON THE REVENUE SIDE, AS WE ALL KNOW, THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, UH, WAS, WAS HIT VERY HARD BY THE PANDEMIC. UH, WE WERE GOING TO END THE YEAR AT ABOUT 56% OF THAT REVENUE SOURCE BEING COLLECTED, UH, WITH THE SPECIAL EVENTS BEING CANCELED, UH, THAT REVENUE SOURCES ONLY BRINGING IN 8.2% FOR THE FISCAL YEAR AND WITH THE CONFERENCE CENTER BEING CLOSED, UH, FOR BASICALLY, UH, A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF OF THAT THIS WHOLE YEAR 37% OF THAT REVENUE SOURCE WAS COLLECTED IN TOTAL 47.1% [02:35:02] OF REVENUE WAS COLLECTED, UH, FOR THE HOTEL FUND COMPARED TO BUDGET ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, JUST OVER 50% OF THE BUDGET WAS SPENT. AND THE PRIMARY REASON THAT IT WAS NOT WAS DUE TO THE CANCELLATION OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND CLOSURE OF THE CONFERENCE CENTER. SO IN TOTAL, UH, THERE WAS NOT THE NEGATIVE IMPACT AS FAR AS FUND BALANCE GOES OVERALL FOR THE HOTEL FUND. WE'RE SEEING ABOUT A $440,000 DRAW DOWN A FUND BALANCE. UH, SO ENDING THE YEAR AT ABOUT $2.8 MILLION, WHICH IS A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, BETTER THAN WHAT WE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND, UH, REVENUE BEING COLLECTED. THE ONLY NOTE HERE IS THAT, UH, THE TRANSFER, UM, FROM THE HOTEL FUND THAT WAS CUT IN HALF BASICALLY TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL RELIEF TO THE HOTEL FUND. SO OVERALL REVENUE IS COMING IN AT JUST UNDER 80%. AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THAT, UH, ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, UH, JUST, UH, UH, 74% OF THE, UH, EXPENDITURES, UM, OCCURRED DURING THE FISCAL YEAR AND THE PRIMARY REASON, THE BIGGEST SOURCE THERE, CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, THOSE CAME IN FAIRLY SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER THE BUDGET AMOUNT FOR THE AIRPORT FUND, UH, VERY CLOSE, AS FAR AS THE BUDGETED REVENUE, NOT A 9.5% OF OVERALL REVENUE, UH, CAME IN. UH, THERE WERE SOME FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT GRANTS THAT WERE INCLUDED AS PART OF A MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT, WHICH WERE COLLECTED, UM, SERVICE FEES, UH, ENDED ABOUT 75% OF BUDGET. UH, THE REAL, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, OR REAL SURPRISING AREAS ARE FUEL FLOW HVS, WHICH BASICALLY BROUGHT IN 95% OF THE BUDGET. AND THEN WE DIDN'T SEE ANY DROP-OFF AS FAR AS REV RE RENTAL INCOME, UH, THAT WAS SIGNIFICANT. SO THAT THOSE BASICALLY HIT THEIR BUDGET AS WELL. UH, ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, THE ONLY NOTE IS RELATED TO MAINTENANCE, UH, WHICH EXCEEDED THE BUDGET BY ABOUT 29.7%. HOWEVER, IT'S IN LINE WITH HISTORICAL ACTUALS IN TOTAL ON THE OPERATING EXPENSES, UH, JUST 91% OF THOSE WERE SPENT. AND IN TOTAL, INCLUDING THE CASH FUNDED CAPITAL PROJECTS, UH, ABOUT 94.1% OF THAT TOTAL BUDGET WAS SPENT, UH, ON THE UTILITY FUND REVENUE. AND YOU WON'T SEE THIS VERY OFTEN, UM, BUT REVENUE ACTUALLY ENDED EXACTLY AT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE BUDGET. SO THAT'S, UH, ABOUT AS GOOD AS YOU CAN GET THERE. UH, ON THE OPERATING EXPENSE SIDE, UH, EXPENSES CAME IN AT 93.5% OF THE BUDGET ON THE OPERATING SIDE, EXCUSE ME. UH, THE ONLY TWO NOTES THERE ARE ON WATER PURCHASES AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT. UH, THOSE SLIGHTLY EXCEEDED THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 20. I THINK THAT WE HAVE GOT THOSE IN A, IN A BETTER SPOT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 21 BUDGET THAT WAS ADOPTED. UH, SO WE ANTICIPATE, UH, NOT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON USAGE, BUT NOT EXCEEDING THE BUDGET FOR THOSE IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR AND, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WERE CASH FUNDED THAT WE SPENT 47.5% OF WHAT WAS BUDGETED. IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE WAS A MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT UTILIZE, UM, UH, ON PROCEEDS FROM, UH, 2014 CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. UH, WE BASICALLY USE $850,000 ON PROCEEDS, UH, THAT WERE, WERE NOT PROGRAMMED, UH, AND APPLIED THOSE TO THE BASE AND I A SEWER REWRAP PROJECT. AND THAT'S WHY, UH, THE CASH FUNDED PORTION IS LESS THAN WHAT WAS BUDGETED BECAUSE WE APPLIED BOND PRICES, A STORMWATER UTILITY FUND, UH, BASICALLY ALL A LITTLE OVER WHAT WAS BUDGETED WAS COLLECTED 101.2% OF REVENUE WAS COLLECTED ON THE EXPENSE SIDE. THE OPERATING EXPENSES ARE JUST UNDER 73%. THE ONLY NOTE THERE IS CAPITAL OUTLAY, WHICH EXCEEDED THE BUDGET, UH, DUE TO, UH, A PURCHASE OF A VEHICLE THAT WAS DELAYED AND WAS SUPPOSED TO OCCUR IN THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR. BUT THAT WAS RECORDED IN FISCAL YEAR 2020, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS. UM, THERE, THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF EXPENDITURES OR EXPENSES OUT OF, UH, THE CASH FUNDED PORTION OF THESE THIS YEAR. SO IN TOTAL, TOTAL EXPENSES ENDED JUST UNDER 42% BUDGET AND THEN HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTIONS. YOU CAN SEE, WE WERE TRENDING. YES, YOU CAN'T SEE THE BAD, BAD NEWS. OKAY. IS THAT, UH, SO YOU CAN SEE, WE WERE, WE WERE CHUGGING ALONG THERE. EVERYTHING WAS VERY CONSISTENT AND THEN [02:40:01] THE PANDEMIC HITS AND IT KIND OF FALLS OFF THE CLIFF. AND WHILE IT IS RECOVERING, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S NOT RECOVERING BACK TO THE LEVELS THAT WE ARE ACCUSTOMED TO. SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE, UH, FOR THIS QUARTER, WE GENERATE ABOUT $426,000 IN HOTEL TAX. UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN PRIOR QUARTERS, UH, BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, IT WAS CLOSER TO A 1.2, 1.4 MILLION. SO WE'RE, WE'RE GENERATING ABOUT, UH, ANYWHERE BETWEEN 25 AND 35% OF WHAT WE TRADITIONALLY GENERATE AS FAR AS HOTEL TAX. SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT CONTINUING TO GO UP, UH, HOPEFULLY IT GOES UP A LITTLE FASTER THAN IT HAS BEEN, UH, BUT WE ARE SEEING A POSITIVE TREND, UH, JUST NOT, UH, IT FELL DOWN SO, SO FAR THAT IT'S HARD, HARD FOR IT TO, TO RECOVER IN SUCH A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, THAT INVESTMENT REPORT SUMMARY. SO JUST A NOTE ON THIS, THAT ALL OF OUR INVESTMENTS FOR THE QUARTER WERE IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR POLICY AND THE PUBLIC FUNDS INVESTMENT ACT. UH, SO HERE, WE'VE GOT HIGHLIGHTED THE BOOK VALUE OF OUR INVESTMENTS, THE MARKET VALUE OF OUR INVESTMENTS, OUR INTEREST REVENUE, AND OUR WEIGHTED AVERAGE YIELD TO MATURITY. SO OUR BOOK VALUE OF OUR INVESTMENTS WENT UP ABOUT 4.6 MILLION DURING THIS QUARTER. UH, THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THAT IS THAT WE SOLD BONDS DURING THIS QUARTER. SO WE GOT FIT, UH, OVER 15 MILLION IN BOND PROCEEDS. UH, THE SAME IS TRUE WITH THE MARKET VALUE. UH, WE GOT OVER 15 MILLION IN BOND PROCEEDS DURING THIS QUARTER. SO WE HAD AN INCREASE IN AVAILABLE FUNDS TO BEST, UH, ON THE INTEREST REVENUE SIDE, BECAUSE INTEREST RATES HAVE DROPPED SO DRASTICALLY THAT WE BROUGHT IN $219,319 IN INVESTMENT REVENUE FOR THE QUARTER, UM, COMPARED TO 341, 986, UH, IN THE PREVIOUS COURSE, WE HAD ABOUT A 36% DROP. UH, THAT'S WHY THAT IS, UH, HIGHLIGHTED RED THERE. AND THEN OUR WEIGHTED AVERAGE YIELD TO MATURITY, WE DROPPED DOWN 2.6, 4% FROM 1.08% IN THE PREVIOUS QUARTER. SO WE DROPPED ABOUT 41%, UH, ON THE WEIGHTED AVERAGE YIELD TO MATURITY OF OUR PORTFOLIO. WE THINK THAT WE'VE KIND OF STOPPED THE BLEEDING WITH THIS. IF YOU REMEMBER, COUNCIL DID ADOPT A UPDATED INVESTMENT POLICY. HOWEVER, INTEREST RATES ARE STILL VERY LOW AS FAR AS OUR INVESTMENTS GO. UH, BUT WE DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO GO MUCH FURTHER BELOW THE 0.6, 4%, HOPEFULLY NOT. ANYWAY. SO WHILE I DO THINK IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 30, 40% THAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW. AND WITH THAT, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S ENCOURAGING TO SEE THE SALES TAX AND AIRPORT FUEL FLOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I JUST WANT TO, I FAILED TO SAY THIS EARLIER, BUT WE HAVE A NEW MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST, ANDREW PATTERSON. WHO'S JUST RECENTLY STARTED WITH THIS TOGETHER. SO WELCOME TO HAMMER. AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE HER. ALL RIGHT. I'VE MET AMBER AT THE CITY HALL. I THINK NEXT YEAR IS MY BIRTHDAY. 65 YEARS OLD. SO DO YOU RECEIVE MEDICARE AS A SENIOR? SO YEAH, SO WE HAVE A CAKE. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.