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IS IT SIX O'CLOCK IT'S? SIX O'CLOCK.
[ Call Meeting to Order & Recite the Pledge of Allegiance]
OUR OCTOBER 20TH, UH, PAYING AND ZONING HEARINGS.SO HER, OUR USUAL, WE START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
SO IF EVERYONE WOULD JOIN ME, UM, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS, UM, TO, UH, APPROVE
[1. Discuss and take action regarding approval of the minutes of the September 15, 2020 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting.]
THE MINUTES.AND, UM, WERE THERE ANY, UM, ANY, UH, CHANGES OR, UM, ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES FROM OUR SEPTEMBER 15TH MEETING? I DON'T HAVE ANY NEW CHANGES.
SO DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER MEETING NOR OF A SECOND? SO ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER MEETING, I, UH, NO OPPOSITION.
SO MEETING, UH, THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING OF SEPTEMBER ARE APPROVED.
UM, OUR FIRST CASE TONIGHT, LET ME GRAB THAT.
[2. Case 1809-Z/Baumann Building. Discussion, and take action on a recommendation regarding an ordinance changing the zoning on a .57-acre property located at 4901 Arapaho Road, which property is currently zoned PD, Planned Development, through Ordinance O04-048, by approving a new PD district, to allow a 5-story mixed use building.]
PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE 1809 Z GOING, OH, SORRY.SO THAT'S WHAT MY PAPERWORK SAYS.
I WAS READING OFF THE OTHER DOCUMENT, SORRY.
CASE 1809 Z BAM AND BUILDING DISCUSSION AND TAKE ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING AN ORDINANCE CHANGING THE ZONING ON A 0.57 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 49 OH ONE RAPAHOE ROAD, WHICH PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT THROUGH ORDINANCE OH ZERO FOUR DASH ZERO FOUR EIGHT ARE PROVING A NEW PD DISTRICT TO ALLOW A FIVE STORY MIXED USE BUILDINGS.
MAY WILSON, MAY WE HAVE THE SAC REPORT PLEASE? IT SEEMED LIKE A CASE 1809 Z.
THIS IS A 0.57 ACRE LOT ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO INITIALLY IT WAS INITIALLY PLANNED AS A PD TO, UM, BE A SUBSEQUENT PARKING LOT EXPANSION FOR THE RADISSON HOTEL.
UM, THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER, BOB BAUMAN IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP A FIVE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING CONTAINING EDWARD BAUMAN CLOTHIERS ON ONE FLOOR.
I BELIEVE, UM, A LUXURY MATTRESS SHOWROOM ON ANOTHER POTENTIAL OFFICE SPACE ON ONE FLOOR WITH HIS RESIDENCE ON TOP.
EXCUSE ME, THE CLOSURES WOULD BE ON THE, MMM.
OTHER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN THE AREA INCLUDE EMILY, A WESTERN NATIONAL AND TOWN STAFF HAS WORKED, UM, TO EXTEND THE ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT, UH, THIS FAR SOUTH, UM, ACCORDINGLY IT STEPH AND COURTEOUS TO THE APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT TO FOLLOW THE URBAN CENTER, UH, ZONING DISTRICT STANDARDS.
THIS APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THE PROPERTY BE REZONED TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THE UC STANDARDS, UH, WHILE ALLOWING FOR CERTAIN ALTERNATIVE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
SO, UH, THE PROPOSED PLAN, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT A FIVE-STORY 41,388 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH A GROUND FLOOR PARKING GARAGE, THREE FLOORS OF COMMERCIAL USES, AND ONE RESIDENTIAL USE ON THE TOP FLOOR.
THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF THE BUILDING, UM, IS PROPOSED AS AN OFFICE AND AN OFFICE USE, UM, AS WELL AS SHOWROOM AND RETAIL SPACE.
UM, THE USE, UM, THE, THE URBAN CENTER DOES ALLOW FOR THE, THESE PERMITTED USES, BUT, UH, THE, THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE 65 DECIBEL AND NOISE LEVEL CONTOUR, UM, WITH, UH, OF THE ADDISON AIRPORT, UH, GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO THE AIRPORT, THE PROPERTY FALLS ENTIRELY IN THAT DECIMAL AREA AND THE STANDARD, UH, THAT STANDARD COMES FROM THE FAA REQUIREMENTS THAT THE TOWN BE OBLIGATED TO ABIDE BY THEM.
THEREFORE RESIDENTIAL USES SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED ON THE SITE.
AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THAT RESIDENTIAL UNIT, UH, BE ALLOWED DESPITE THIS REQUIREMENT, THE BUILDING HEIGHT AND BUILDING SETBACKS MEET WITH THE URBAN CENTER STANDARDS, AS WELL AS THE, UH, THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS, UM, AND MATERIALS.
THERE ARE, UM, A FEW ISSUES REGARDING, UH, PARKING CALCULATIONS ON A PROPERTY.
UM, FIRST THE TOWN ZONING REQUIRES THAT PARKING FOR BUILDINGS OF LESS THAN 50,000 SQUARE FEET BE CALCULATED BASED ON GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE, NOT USABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING.
SECOND TYPICALLY CLOTHING STORES FALL WITHIN THE,
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UH, THE RETAIL RATIO OF PARKING, WHICH IS ONE SPACE PER 250 SQUARE FEET.UM, HOWEVER STAFF AGREED THAT GIVEN, UM, EDWARD BAUMAN'S BATMAN CLOTHIERS BUSINESS, UM, IS BY APPOINTMENT ONLY IT'S REASONABLE TO PARK THIS USE, UH, AS AN OFFICE SPACE INSTEAD OF RETAIL, UH, WITH A RATIO OF ONE PER 300 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THE, THE APPLICANT ALSO REQUESTED THAT THE CLOTHING STORE BE CONSIDERED A SHOWROOM, UH, WHICH WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ONE SPACE PER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSE SHOWROOM.
UM, THE URBAN CENTER, UH, STANDARDS REQUIRE ONE SPACE PER BEDROOM FOR, UM, RESIDENTIAL USES WITH A MAXIMUM OF TWO SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT.
SO BASED ON OUR, OUR NORMAL CALCULATIONS FOR PARKING REQUIREMENTS, UH, THERE WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT OF ROUGHLY 81 PARKING SPACES.
IF YOU DID TWO FLOORS, UM, OFFICE PLACE, ONE FLOOR OF, AND ONE DWELLING UNIT.
UM, IF WE WENT BY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR USING USABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE, UM, AND TO USE THE SHOWROOM SPACE, UH, FOR THE CLOTHING STORE RATHER THAN OFFICE, THE, THE, UM, PARKING REQUIREMENTS WOULD DROP TO 50 PARKING SPACES.
UM, THE PROPOSED PLAN PROVIDES 46 ONSITE PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS, UM, 30, WHICH IS 35 SPACES SHORT OF OUR GENERAL REQUIREMENTS AND FOR SHY OF OUR, UM, OF THE REQUESTED, UM, REQUIREMENTS.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS BE CALCULATED BASED ONLY ON USABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING AND THAT THE CLOTHING STORE BE PARKED WITH A SHOWROOM RATIO AND THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD BE GIVEN RELIEF ON THE ADDITIONAL FOUR PARKING SPACES BASED ON THE PROPERTY'S PROXIMITY TO THE DART STATION.
UM, AS, AS FAR AS OPEN SPACE, UH, BECAUSE OF THE SITE IS SMALL.
AND BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONE DWELLING UNIT IN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STAFF AGREED THAT, UM, OPEN SPACE WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED ON THIS SITE, UM, AS WELL AS ITS PROXIMITY TO ADDISON'S CIRCLE, UM, AS WELL AS STREETSCAPES.
SO THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION, UH, PROVIDE STREET STREETSCAPE STANDARDS, UM, FOR A WRAPPER AROUND A ROW.
IT IS DEFINED AS A MINORITY CEREAL.
THE EXISTING SIDEWALKS ALONG ARAPAHO ROAD HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED WITH A SPECIFIC LOOK THAT RUNS THE LENGTH OF THE CORRIDOR.
SO NO CHANGES ARE PROPOSED, UM, OR REQUIRED BY STAFF.
UM, UH, THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN DEFINES, UH, EDWIN LEWIS DRIVE AS A COMMERCIAL COLLECTOR STREET, UM, AND PROVIDES THREE OPTIONS, UM, BASED ON THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, UM, GIVEN THE, THE DESIRE TO, TO MAKE THIS A PART OF THE ADDISON CIRCLE AREA, THE URBAN PEDESTRIAN STANDARD IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PROPERTY.
UM, AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN EIGHT FOOT ON STREET, PARALLEL PARKING SPACE, A SIX FOOT PARKWAY BUFFER, AND AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK, UM, IN THE APPLICANT'S RESUBMITTAL.
THESE, UH, THESE, UM, REQUIREMENTS ARE MET, UM, AND, UH, DUE TO OUR, THE, THE PARKING, UH, REC, UM, RATIO AND, UH, REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS, UH, UM, THE FAA COMMITMENTS THAT THE TOWN OF ADDISON HAS STAFF HAS REPRE, UH, RECOMMENDED DENIAL ON THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE FAA SENT A LETTER TO STAFF, UH, RESPONDING TO A MEETING THAT WE HAD BEFORE LAST, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, UM, STATING THAT THE TOWN WOULD, UM, BE, UM, ELIGIBLE TO LOSE GRANT FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UH, IF, IF A NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS BUILT IN THIS SITE.
I AM, UM, I AM READY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM YOU ALL.
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR WILSON AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
I MEAN, NOTE ASKING, SUPPOSEDLY SPOKE NEW RULING FROM THE FAA IN OCTOBER, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE POSTPONED IT TO THIS BOOK.
DID THAT EVER COME OUT? UM, SO THE, THE, THE, THE RULING WAS THE, UM, VFAS DECISION THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT, UM, AT THE LAST P AND Z MEETING, UH, WHICH WAS AFTER.
SO AFTER I SENT THAT OUT VIA AN EMAIL TO THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, I APOLOGIZE IF YOU DID NOT RECEIVE THAT, UH, WITH THE, THE DECISION FROM THE FAA AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD REQUIRE OR ALLOW, UM, RESIDENTIAL ON THIS SPACE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH OF THAT LETTER INDICATES SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST MEETING, AND THAT IS THAT THE FAA MAKES BLOCK GRANTS.
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TECH STOCK IS THE ONE WHO ACTUALLY ULTIMATELY MAKES THAT DECISION.HAVE YOU FOLLOWED UP WITH TECH SIDE? UM, JOEL JENKINSON DID.
AND, UM, AS TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH HIM, BUT AS TO MY KNOWLEDGE, UH, TEXDOT AGREED WITH THE FAA ON, ON THAT DECISION TO, UM, ON, ON THEIR DECISION.
SO, UM, LET ME, LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH JOEL ON THAT AND MAKE SURE, AND, UM, AND I CAN, I CAN GIVE YOU A 100% DEFINITE ANSWER ON THE TECH STOCK QUESTION, BUT THE AFAA DID RECOMMEND, UH, OR DID, DID SAY THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW A RESIDENTIAL USE THERE.
AND IT, UH, IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, TEXTILE FOLLOWED SUIT MAY, MAY I, AS THE APPLICANT, SORRY, THIS IS TYLER ADAMS OF, UH, 100 NORTH COTTONWOOD DRIVE SUITE ONE OH FOUR IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS FOR THE RECORD.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THE RESIDENCE AS PART OF THE USE OF THIS APPLICATION.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE THAT AT THIS TIME.
UM, I COULD, I COULD SEND THAT OUT TO YOU.
I'M HAVING SOME, UH, COMPLETE MELTDOWN ON OUR, UH, UH, ON OUR CONNECTION RIGHT NOW.
UH, HOWEVER, JUST TO, UH, TO, UH, KIND OF REITERATE THE SAME THING.
I'M GLAD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE.
UM, BUT, BUT TO REITERATE WHAT THAT WOULD DO THAT WOULD CHANGE OUR PARKING REQUIREMENT BY TWO SPACES, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WOULD REQUIRE TWO SPACES, AN ADDITIONAL 4,000 SQUARE FEET AT ONE PER 1000 WOULD BE FOUR SPACES.
SO CAN YOU WEIGH IN ON THIS? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF THE APP IS WITHDRAWING THIS CURRENT REQUEST, UM, THEN THAT'S, WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE ANY VOTES OR MOTION IT'S SIMPLY HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
AND I THINK THAT APPLICANT NEEDS TO COME BACK WITH A WHOLE NEW SET, CAUSE THIS IS A MAJOR CHANGE IN WHAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED.
AND SO I NEED TO, I DON'T THINK WE CAN JUST TAKE THINGS, EMAILS, YOU KNOW, SENT TO US TONIGHT.
I THINK THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO FORMALLY REMOVE AND THEN SUBMIT NEW PLANS.
AND CAN YOU WAIT IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE, THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS CASE.
CAN I, CAN I STEP BACK JUST A MINUTE? THIS IS DAN ANDERSON, UM, UH, MR. BAUMAN AND I, AND, AND TYLER HAVE REALLY DONE A LOT OF WORK THIS LAST MONTH.
AND I THINK, UH, WHAT, AS WE UNDERSTAND THE PLANS, UH, REALLY THE ONLY, UM, THE ONLY FACT OF THE MATTER THAT CHANGES IS REALLY THE, THE PARKING TABLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDING, THE INTERNAL USE OF THE BUILDING, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE PHYSICAL ELEMENTS OF THE SITE PLAN, ALL THE CIVIL DRAWINGS ARE ALL CORRECT.
THE LANDSCAPE DRAWINGS HAVE BEEN CORRECTED.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK, UH, WORKING WITH, UH, THE STAFF, UH, REVISING THE SITE PLAN, UH, WITH THE ON STREET PARKING THAT WE'VE PROVIDED PER REQUEST IN THE LAST MEETING.
UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN JUST THE PARKING TABLE, UH, BASED ON THE USE OF THE FIFTH FLOOR, UM, WE'RE REALLY NOT CHANGING THE APPLICATION MUCH IN ANY WAY, EXCEPT CALLING THE TOP FLOOR, UM, OFFICE SHOWROOM, CONSISTENT WITH MR. BAUMANN SPACE VERSUS, UH, HIS RESIDENCE.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE REALLY, WE'VE REALLY, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO ACCOMMODATE THIS WEEK.
WE DIDN'T HEAR BACK FROM THE FAA UNTIL JUST SEVERAL DAYS AGO AFTER, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET THEM FOR THE LAST MONTH.
UH, AND FINALLY GETTING THEIR LETTER, UH, DATED.
UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE DATE OF THE LETTER, UM, OCTOBER 15TH, UH, WHICH WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHICH WAS LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, ALMOST A MONTH BEFORE, OR SINCE WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYTHING AND FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING IN PLACE TO, TO, TO MOVE ON TO COUNCIL, UH, JUST WITH MAYBE A SMALL CORRECTION OF TWO SPACES ON THE, UH, THE PARKING TABLE.
BUT I THINK, I THINK I WOULD, I WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU.
I THINK THE, THE, UM, REMOVING THE RESIDENCE IS A BIG DEAL.
AND FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND ALL THE REASONS THAT WE'VE READ FROM WHAT THE FAA HAS HAD IT WASN'T THAT WHAT WAS REQUESTED, I'M SORRY.
W W WHAT, WASN'T THAT, WHAT HAS BEEN A CONTENTION SINCE THE FIRST MEETING WAS THE, THE, UH, THE, THE RESIDENTIAL USE AND BECAUSE THE FAA HAS NOW TOLD US WE CAN'T DO THAT.
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AND NOTHING'S ABSOLUTELY CHANGING, YOU KNOW, ON OUR, WHEN WE SUBMIT THE PLANS, THERE'S NO INNER WALLS, THERE'S NO NOTHING.WE HAVE AGREED TO WHAT YOU SAYS TO DO, SO WE'RE PULLING THE RESIDENTS OUT.
AND, UH, BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING OF THE BUILDING AT ALL, EXCEPT THE NAME OF THE FLOOR.
IT'S NO LONGER A RESIDENCE, IT'S A SHOWROOM, RIGHT.
SO JUST AS A FOLLOWUP TO THAT, I WAS SAYING THAT, THAT SAYS FOUR WOULD BE VERY MUCH LIKE THE CENTER AREA OF YOUR EXISTING FACILITY, WHERE YOU HAVE, UM, EVENTS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE ENVISIONING.
WE WOULD JUST USE IT MORE FOR A SHOWROOM.
WE WOULD, UM, WE DO A LOT OF THE LOGO BUSINESS.
WE WOULD MAKE THAT MORE FOR LOGO CUSTOMERS WHO COME IN TO SEE US.
AND JUST FROM MY VANTAGE POINT, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OF WORKING WITH THE TOWN, UM, KUDOS TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS SO THAT THE STREET STREETSCAPE AND LANDSCAPER ARE ON PAR, BUT THE COMMISSION FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS HAS BEEN LOOKING AT A BUILDING THAT HAD ONE LEVEL DEDICATED TO SHOWROOM.
AND I THINK SOME OF US HAVE, UM, VARIOUS OPINIONS AS TO WHETHER THAT SHOULD BE A SHOWROOM OR OFFICE.
AND NOW YOU'RE ASKING US TO ALMOST, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATION OR VERY SHORT TIME FOR CONSIDERATION.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER FLOOR AND THIS COMPANY SHOWROOM, AND, AND THAT REALLY DOES CHANGE MY WAY OF THINKING ON THIS.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M READY TO, UH, HAVE A VOTE ON, ON, ON WHAT THIS MEANS.
DOES THAT MEAN THIS IS A, THIS IS A BIG CHANGE.
AND I, AND THE PAPERWORK THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, UM, IS NOT COUNSEL READY.
AND, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS STRIVE TO DO IS HAVE A FINAL DOCUMENT THAT GOES TO COUNCIL.
AND THIS IS IN THE TOWN IS NOT OUR TOWN STAFF IS NOT WEIGHED IN ON THE PARKING FOR TWO LEVELS OF SHOWROOMS. I MEAN, THEY MAY NOT AGREE THAT THIS THING SHOULD HAVE TWO LEVELS OF SHOWROOMS WHEN IT WENT RIGHT UP UNTIL JUST 15 MINUTES AGO, ONE LEVEL OF SHOWROOM SEEMED TO BE ADEQUATE.
AND, AND SO I DO TAKE A LOT OF, I PUT A LOT OF WEIGHT ON STAFF'S COMMENTS THAT WE HOPE THAT THIS BUILDING IS BUILT AND IT'S CRIME FOR A LONG TIME, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, IT'S GOING TO BE SOLD AND IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'S GOING TO BE TOTALLY INADEQUATE BECAUSE SOMEBODY WOULD PROBABLY TURN INTO OFFICES.
SO THIS, THIS IS GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES WORTH OF ME THINKING ON THIS AND TWO.
AND SO I JUST I'VE GOT PROBLEM, TOM.
CAUSE IF YOU RECALL, WE CHANGED THE WHOLE SECOND FLOOR PER THE CITY'S ASKING THAT THAT FLOOR AND ANY TIME BE TURNED INTO PARKING, WE CHANGED THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING AND MADE THE SECOND FLOOR BE ABLE TO HOLD PARKING.
IF THAT COMES 10 YEARS FROM NOW, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, FROM WHENEVER WE WOULD SELL THE BUILDING.
YOU NEED ANOTHER 30 SPACES BY DOING THAT.
I, AND THAT WE DID THAT BECAUSE YOU ALL REQUEST, I UNDERSTAND MAYBE THAT'S MAYBE THAT IS INDEED THE CASE, BUT I AM NOT SEEING THE PAPERWORK COULD SHOW THAT IN THE APPLICATION.
AND I THINK THAT BOTH YOU AND THE TOWN, UH, NEED TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE APPLICATION.
SO THAT AGAIN, WHAT GOES TO THE COUNCIL.
SO THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY 30 MORE SPACES OF PARKING THEIR AVAILABLE TIME, BUT NOW YOU'VE ADDED ANOTHER FLOOR THAT SHOWROOM, WHICH THE TOWN MAY NOT AGREE.
THE TOWN STAFF MAY THINK THAT WELL, THAT NEEDS TO BE CALCULATION.
THE PARKING NEEDS TO BE DONE BASED ON THAT BEING OFFICE, SINCE THAT CHANGES THE WHOLE SCOPE.
AND UNTIL I HEAR THE TOWN'S POSITION ON THIS, UM, AND, AND, AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE WE'VE PUT, WE'VE POSTPONED THIS THING MONTH AFTER MONTH, BUT A LOT OF IT HAS NOT, THIS HAS NOT BEEN, YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSIBILITY.
THIS HAS NOT BEEN ON THE TOWN.
IT'S BEEN ON THE FAA AND THEM DRAGGING THEIR FEET, UM, WHICH IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR A GOVERNMENT ENTITY.
I THINK GETTING A RESPONSE TO THEM IN A MONTH WAS, WAS PHENOMENAL.
SO UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS JUST, WHAT'S BEING REQUIRED IN THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING AND THIS PARTICULAR PLACE IN ADDISON.
AND IT'S JUST TAKING ALL OF US, UM, A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WE WOULD LIKE, BUT THINGS KEEP, CONTINUE TO CHANGE AT EVERY MEETING.
AND I THINK TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY, THE PUBLIC, I THINK, NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN, TO REVIEW THIS PLAN.
AND THEY'RE NOT GIVING BEING, GIVEN THAT.
UM, BUT ASKING US TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT TONIGHT.
SO I'VE, I'VE SO I'LL LET THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WEIGH IN, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S KINDA WHERE I AM.
SO THE ONLY THING I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT CHANGES, HAS IT BEEN MADE EVERY MEETING BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES YOU HAVE TO MAKE,
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THEY'RE NOT CHANGES WE DECIDED TO MAKE.AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, AT LEAST I HAVE, UH, THE, THE IDEA THAT YOU GUYS ARE WILLING AND ABLE TO, UH, CONSTRUCT THE KIND OF BUILDING THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO DO, UH, WHERE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON TO THE TUNE OF $8 MILLION, I THINK IS THE NUMBER THAT YOU THREW OUT THERE IN ONE OF OUR EARLIER MEETINGS.
AND I DON'T WANT TO REITERATE EVERYTHING THAT TOM SHED, BUT I, I, I DO CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING.
YOU MAY NOT THINK IT'S A BIG DEAL, BUT I THINK IT'S A BIG DEAL OF CHANGING THAT A STRUCTURE FROM A LIVING STRUCTURE TO ANOTHER SPACE FOR SHOWROOM.
AND I'VE SAID THIS FROM THE BEGINNING, I'M NOT HUNG UP ON THE PARKING PIECE OF IT GOING INTO THIS.
I DIDN'T THINK I WAS AS CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE FAA WAS GOING TO THINK AND SAY, BUT THE MORE WE HEARD, THE MORE THAT WAS UNREAL, UM, DISCOVERED WAS THAT'S THE BIGGEST DEAL FOR ME.
THAT'S THE BIGGEST DEAL IN THIS WHOLE THING.
WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PARKING IS GOING TO BE.
AND WE'LL FIGURE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A MASS TRANSPORTATION AREA, THEN PARKING IS AT SOME POINT, PROBABLY NOT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE END ALL BE ALL FOR EVERYTHING AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, BUT THE FAA AND FUNDING AND THEIR REQUIREMENTS, UM, I'M NOT READY TO SAY, YEAH, THAT'S OKAY.
THAT'S, WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOB AS COMMISSIONERS IN MY OPINION, OR CERTAINLY I'M NOT DOING MINE, UH, GOING IN THAT DIRECTION WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE INFORMATION.
WELL, LET ME, CAN I, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? IS IT, WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE OF ANOTHER FULLER SHOWROOM? I MEAN, IT REALLY JUST MEANS THAT MR. BAUMAN IS EXPANDING HIS BUSINESS AND OTHER 4,000 SQUARE FEET WITHIN THE BUILDING.
AND, AND AGAIN, WE'VE, WE'VE ACCOMMODATED TECH, SCOTT FAA, AND THE TOWN'S CONCERN REGARDING THE RESIDENTIAL BY ELIMINATING IT.
SO WE THINK WE'VE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE AT LEAST MOVING MORE TOWARDS THE APPROVAL LEVEL VERSUS PRESENTING SOMETHING TONIGHT.
THAT'S A POTENTIALLY A BIG NEGATIVE, I GUESS.
WHAT'S THE BIG POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IN THE USE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY, UH, ACQUIESCING TO, UH, WITH THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY USE NOT BE RESIDENTIAL.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S A NEGATIVE.
I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE APPROVING, THAT WE SEE IT ON PAPER BECAUSE WE ARE RESPONSIBLE AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE DOTTED OUR I'S AND THAT WE ABSOLUTELY KNOW WHAT WE'RE APPROVING AND THAT THERE'S NO SURPRISES.
AND WE ARE THRILLED THAT BOB'S GOING TO KEEP GOING ON WITH THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S GORGEOUS AND WE'RE THRILLED.
WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE COVERED EVERYTHING AND THAT IT'S ALL ON THE PIECE OF PAPER AND THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING AND THAT, AND THAT WE'VE JUST COVERED ALL THE BASES.
THAT'S ALL IT IS THEN IT'S DONE, RIGHT.
THE FIFTH FLOOR WILL JUST SHOW AS SHOWROOM.
AND THEN THE PARKING TABLE WE'LL ADD TWO SPACES.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE SUM OF OUR CHANGES TO THIS.
WELL, BUT THAT'S, FOR ME CHANGES.
WELL, WAIT, THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGES YOU'RE ASKING TO PUT THIS THING OFF FOR TWO CHANGES, WHICH WILL NOT CHANGE ANY OF THE PLANS WILL CHANGE IN THE DOCUMENTS OR ANYTHING.
WELL, WAIT, SO FIRST OF ALL, BOB, I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE REVISED AND I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP WITH THE URBAN CENTER STANDARDS AND MEETING THOSE REQUIREMENTS FOR ME.
I WANT TO, I WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THE SECOND LEVEL PARKING.
I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S NEVER BEEN ADDRESSED IN ANYTHING IN WRITING.
I WANT TO, I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT.
YEAH, YOU'RE ADDING 4,000 MORE OF SHOWROOM AND IT ONLY ADDS TWO ADDITIONAL SPOTS, BUT DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, RU THERE FOUR SHORT OR 35 SHORT, AND, AND YES, I GET IT.
IT'S IT'S NEXT TO THE DART REEL, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT STILL LIMITS ITS USES.
IF, IF WE GO WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR TYPICAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS, RATHER THAN USABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND SHOWROOM, I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT OKAY WITH THAT, BUT I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING AGREE IN FRONT OF US.
I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
IF YOU DECIDE TO TURN THE SECOND FLOOR IN THE PARKING, HOW DOES THAT WORK? HOW DO YOU GET FROM THE FIRST FLOOR, THE SECOND FLOOR? WHAT, HOW WILL YOU ENGINEER THAT TO MAKE THAT WORK? IT IT'S ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY IN THE PLANS WHERE WE'VE GOT A LIP, A CAR LIFT THAT GOES TO THE FLOOR.
UH, WE HAVE A PASSENGER ELEVATOR THAT GOES ALL THE WAY UP.
UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE ACCOMMODATED IN THE BUILDING.
UH, STRUCTURALLY ARE, ARE, TYLER CAN CONFIRM THAT STRUCTURALLY THE SECOND FLOOR
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LOAD, IT'S A, IT'S A, UM, YOU KNOW, CONCRETE STRUCTURE PODIUM THAT THAT'LL SUPPORT, UH, THE WEIGHT OF AUTOMOBILES.SO IT CAN, ALL IT HAS TO BE IS, IS, YOU KNOW, OPENED UP AND STRIPED.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO, SO LET ME MAKE ONE THING CLEAR.
MY OPINION ABOUT PARKING IS MY OPINION.
IT DOES, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS.
SO DON'T TAKE IT AS THIS IS SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, BLANKET APPROVAL.
IS THERE A WAY WE CAN JUST DISCUSS TONIGHT WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE SO THAT WE CAN AT LEAST ADDRESS THOSE? I MEAN, AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, IF THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE TO COME IN WITH A PERFECT, A 100% SET OF PLANS TO BE, YOU KNOW, I'M HOPING THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF LATITUDE TO, TO, YOU KNOW, CORRECT THESE THINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THE EVENING OF THE, OF THE MEETING.
I MEAN, WE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING MINOR ENOUGH, LIKE TWO PARKING SPACES, WE JUST FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE DISCUSSED AND, AND RESOLVED THIS EVENING, INSTEAD OF WAITING ANOTHER MONTH, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME.
WE WERE JUST HOPING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, CREATE A, A PACKAGE THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO COUNCIL AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ACCEPTANCE OF P AND Z AS WELL.
BUT YEAH, I JUST THINK WE'RE LOSING A LITTLE BIT OF SIGHT OF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE CHANGED THE SIZE OF OUR BUILDING TO ACCOMMODATE THE OFF STREET PARKING WE'VE.
WE PROVIDED THE, YOU KNOW, THE ADEQUATE, UH, SIDEWALK AND BUFFER YARDS, UH, THAT WERE REQUESTED TO DO THAT.
UM, AND THEN THERE WERE SOME, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERABLE REDUCTIONS IN THE SIZE OF OUR BUILDING TO DO THAT.
UH, AND AGAIN, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE TRIED TO WORK WITH THE FAA AND TEXTILE, AND WE KNOW UNTIL THE 15TH, WE HADN'T HEARD A WORD FROM THEM.
UH, AND PART OF THAT MAY BE THAT, YOU KNOW, CHARLES LEFT THE CITY AND WE LOST OUR CONTACT THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE BELIEVE THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO FOR THE LAST TWO MEETINGS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST, YOU KNOW, WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
UH, SO YOU KNOW, THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT, WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.
WE JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, WANT SOME CONSIDERATION FOR A LOT OF THE, UH, ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ACCOMMODATED.
AND WE, WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE, WE'VE AGREED BASICALLY TO ALL THE REQUESTS FROM THE LAST MEETING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DIDN'T INCORPORATE THE FIFTH FLOOR USE, UH, INTO A PACKAGE IN ADVANCE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST RECENTLY QUESTION.
UM, COULD YOU ELABORATE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHAT EXACTLY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE PLACE TO CONVERT AT ONE FLOOR TO PARKING AND WHERE ALL OF THAT IS EXPLAINED AND DOCUMENTED THE, UH, THE SECOND FLOOR WOULD BE ACCESSED BY THE VEHICLE LIFT.
UM, AND, UH, BASICALLY THE, THE, THE LAYOUT FOR THE SECOND FLOOR WOULD BE THE SAME AS THE FIRST FOUR WITH, UH, WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE FROM THE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ENTRANCE FROM THE, FROM THE GROUND LEVEL.
SO IT IT'S, IT'S SLIGHTLY UNCONVENTIONAL FROM THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A RAMP THAT GOES UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR, HOWEVER, UM, IT IS FULLY ACCESSIBLE, UM, VIA A VEHICLE LIFT.
SO WOULD A VEHICLE LIFT BEING INSTALLED FROM DAY ONE ARE, OR IS IT JUST THE CONSTRUCTION AND THAT THE SPACE IS MADE AVAILABLE OR ACCURATE? THE VEHICLE LIFTED WOULD BE INSTALLED DAY ONE, IT'S THERE.
AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THE PLANS YES.
ON THE CLIENTS, SOME PLANS, BUT TYLER, WHAT WOULD YOU DO ABOUT THE CAR ADMISSIONS? BECAUSE IT'S A ENCLOSED AREAS THAT MONTH.
THERE IS, THERE ARE AMPLE WINDOWS FOR THAT SECOND FLOOR SPACE THAT WOULD EITHER BE WELL, THAT WOULD NOT EITHER BE THERE LARGER WINDOWS THAT WOULD BE RUNNING OVER TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT SECOND FLOOR WOULD BE VENTILATED WITHOUT, WITHOUT ADDITIONAL MECHANICAL SYSTEMS. OKAY.
SO I GUESS MR. HANSON, YOU'D ASK FOR SPECIFIC CONCERNS ON THIS MEETING, UM, WHEN WE COULD RESOLVE, OR AT LEAST GOING FORWARD, UM, JUST AS, AS FAR AS SOME OF YOUR PAST COMMENTS, THE INITIAL PLAN THAT WE GOT FROM YOU GUYS BACK IN FOR THE AUGUST MEETING, I GUESS, UM, WAS NOT, WAS NOT UP TO THE TOWN'S SPECIFICATIONS.
AND SO WE POINTED THAT OUT AND IT'S NOTHING MORE THAN WE WOULDN'T REQUIRE ANY OTHER APPLICANT.
AND SO YOU GUYS HAD TO GO BACK AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU DID, BUT THAT WAS WHAT WE DID.
IT'S THE SAME THING WE REQUIRE OF EVERYBODY.
UM, BUT THEN IT WAS THE FAA ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, ERODES WAITING ON.
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THIS HAS GONE ON RECORD AS TO WHAT THEIR POSITION IS.AND SO WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES HERE TODAY, AND PART OF THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION THAT I'M HAVING A PROBLEM WITH IS THE OPTICS.
UM, WE'VE GONE FROM A BUILDING THAT WAS SUBMITTED BACK IN AUGUST THAT HAD ONE SHOWROOM AND THEN A RESIDENCE.
AND NOW HERE, ESSENTIALLY TONIGHT WE'VE WITHDRAWN THE RESIDENCE.
THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TRYING TO GET THIS LEVEL AS A HOTEL, AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE A SECOND LEVEL OF SHOWROOM.
AND IT JUST SEEMS TO ME, THE OPTICS ARE, UM, W WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO GET AROUND SOME OF THE TOWNS SPECIFICATIONS FOR THIS BUILDING.
AND, AND UNTIL THAT HAS BEEN VETTED, UM, I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT TONIGHT WHAT, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ASKING.
UM, I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO AVOID, UH, YOU KNOW, DELAYING UNTIL DECEMBER, AND THEN WE, WE STILL HAVE, IF THE ISSUE IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING FOR SHOWROOM INTERPRETATION, AND THERE'S A BELIEF THAT IT'S NOT SHOWROOM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM A MONTH FROM NOW.
SO I GUESS, I GUESS IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU KNOW, I DEFER TO BOB, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, IF, IF, IF THE SHOWROOM IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE A MONTH FROM NOW, LIKE IT IS TONIGHT, THEN WE MAY NOT WANT TO AWAIT ANOTHER MONTH OF, WE MAY JUST WANT IT VOTED.
UH, BUT I, I JUST, I DON'T WANT TO PRESS IT TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT FAIR OR NOT, NOT EQUITABLE, UH, FOR THE CITY, BUT WE JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT SHOWROOM, BECAUSE IT'S, IT, IT WILL BE PRESENTED AS A SHOWROOM NEXT MONTH, JUST LIKE IT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, TONIGHT.
AND, AND, AND I HAVE TO REITERATE WITH BOB SAID, THIS IS MY OPINION.
I'VE GOT, I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOME OF THE PARKING.
UM, I HAD MY PROBLEMS WITH FAA AND PARKING.
WE RESOLVED THE FAA, BUT NOW I'VE GOT A PROBLEM PARKING AND IT BECOMES, EVEN IN MY MIND, MY SENIOR MIND, UH, MORE OF A PROBLEM IN THAT WE NOW HAVE A SECOND SHOWROOM FORWARD, INSTEAD OF JUST ONE, I COULD PROBABLY LIVE WITH THE ONE THAT THE TWO IS ASKING ME TO STRETCH.
SO THOSE ARE MY TWO CONCERNS, BUT AGAIN, I'M JUST ONE COMMISSIONER OUT OF SEVEN AND THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OPINIONS AND THEY, SO THIS IS JUST MY ISSUE.
AND IF YOU WANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THIS CAUSES US TO GET POSTPONED TILL NEXT MONTH, UM, IT'S JUST BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSIONERS AGREE WITH THAT POSITION, BUT, UM, I MAY BE ALL BY MYSELF HERE.
UM, IN WHICH CASE, UM, YOU GUYS MAY GET YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT, BASICALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT WE DO HAVE SOME OBJECTIONS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF, YOU KNOW, VERBIAGE THAT WE WILL, THAT WE RECEIVED.
NUMBER ONE, I THINK THAT'S THE WORD.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS THAT THIS WAS WHAT WAS SUBMITTED.
NOW WE'RE IN A MEETING WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DISREGARD WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE FOLLOWING.
UH, HOW CAN THAT BE? CAN THAT BE TAKEN CARE OF IN OUR MEETING OR, UH, IT, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION.
YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION AND MAKE APPLY CONDITIONS TO THAT MOTION.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, A CONDITION THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH SHOWROOM SPACE, UH, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, SIR.
THAT'S I GUESS WILSON ON THE PARKING THAT WAY TOO, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND MAYBE WHAT THE STAFF OR IF YOU HAVE ANY FEELING THAT THE STAFF, UH, READJUST.
SO, UM, WE, WE DO HAVE OBLIGATIONS WITH, UH, OBJECTIONS WITH PARKING, UM, WHERE IT STANDS.
NOW, IF YOU HAVE A SHOWROOM THAT WOULD MAKE IT EVEN LESS COMPLIANT THAN IF THERE WERE RESIDENTS THERE, UH, WITH THE, UH, LIFTS, I DO KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME, SOME, UM, UH, THERE WAS SOME COMMUNICATION BETWEEN STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ABOUT, UM, THAT BEING A PROBLEM SINCE THERE'S ONLY ONE ACCESS POINT THERE, AND THAT STAFF WOULD OBJECT TO THAT LIFT.
UM, AND I CAN FIND, UH, THAT, THAT THE, THE CORRESPONDENCE, UM, AND, AND SEND IT OUT.
BUT, UM, YES, AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DO, WE, WE DO OBJECT TO THE PARKING BECAUSE IF WE WENT AHEAD WITH IT AS, UM, THE APPLICANT IS, IS ASKING, THAT IS NOT HOW WE HAVE DONE.
WE HAVE GENERALLY DONE THINGS WITH, FOR OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
THAT WOULD BE, UM, LETTING IT STAND RIGHT NOW WOULD BE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING HALF PARKING, UM, IN A SPACE THAT, THAT, UH, WOULD REQUIRE GENERALLY TRADITIONALLY WOULD REQUIRE 81 SPACES
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IF THAT ANSWERS ANY QUESTIONS.SO THE PARKING LIFT, LET LET'S JUST SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU SELL THE BUILDING IN THE FUTURE AND WE HAVE GOT WHAT I WOULD CALL JUST TRADITIONAL OFFICE USERS IN THE SPACE.
UH, IF YOU TRIED TO DO, UM, MULTIPLE FLOORS OF OFFICE SPACE, IS IT REALLY, IS IT REALISTIC THAT A VEHICLE LIFT WOULD, WOULD SUPPORT THAT, LIKE, UH, THAT, THAT TYPE OF USE, I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? HOW MANY EMMY CARS FIT IN THE VEHICLE LIVE? UM, YOU KNOW, IS IT REALISTIC TO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, A FEW HUNDRED EMPLOYEES COULD USE IT A DAY TO GET TO THE SECOND FLOOR? HOW DO YOU ENVISION THAT WORKING? IF I CAN SAY SOMETHING BEFORE WE ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE, UM, CONCERN OF THIS COMMITTEE ON WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS BUILDING FIVE, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE INVESTING $8 MILLION.
IF WE WANT TO SELL THE BUILDING AND SOMEONE CANNOT PARK, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUY IT.
SO WHERE DO YOU, I JUST CANNOT WRAP MY ARMS AROUND THAT.
YOU GUYS ARE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN EIGHT YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING IN A TRANSIT STATION ANSWER, THIS IS PER JOB.
IS IT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY? WE'LL WORRY ABOUT THE BUILDING EIGHT YEARS FROM NOW.
IS THAT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY? YES, IT IS.
I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T ZONES FOR EVERYTHING, BUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AND YOU KNOW, THAT THAT BUILDING IS SOLD OR IT'S VACANT, YOU LIMIT THE USES, WHETHER REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THE DART ROAD IS THERE OR NOT, I GET IT.
THAT'S ALL WE'RE MAKING THESE INVESTMENTS.
THAT'S WHY THE DARK WORLD, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DART REAL IS COMING TO ADDISON, BUT YOU DO LIMIT THE USES IN THE FUTURE.
IF YOU DON'T GET THE PARKING RIGHT NOW, DO I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE 81? I DON'T THINK SO, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT THE YOUTH IS FOR THE FUTURE.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON, YOU KNOW, HOW THE SECOND FLOOR WORK, I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON, HOW DO WE KNOW HOW MANY SPACES THERE ARE FOR STREET PARKING SINCE WE'RE, WE'RE ALLOWING FOR THAT.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS I AT LEAST WANT TO KNOW.
AND, AND, AND WE KNOW ALL THAT.
I MEAN, WE WE'VE, WE'VE PROVIDED THAT IN OUR PACKAGE.
UH, WE'VE ADDED THEM ON STREET PARKING.
UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, OUR INTERPRETATION IS DIFFERENT THAN THE TOWN STAFF, UH, RELATED TO THAT, BUT THAT'S BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT MONTH, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
UM, AT LEAST OUR PRESENTATION PLANS WON'T CHANGE.
UH, AND I DON'T BELIEVE STAFF'S OPINION IS GOING TO CHANGE REGARDING THAT AS WELL.
SO I, IF I COULD, IF I COULD WEIGH IN A LITTLE BIT ON THE, ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF PARKING, THERE ISN'T ANY BUILDING CODE OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT SAYS IT HAS TO BE RAMP ACCESSIBLE.
NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, WE'RE SHOWING IT AS IF THE VEHICLE LIFT BY ITSELF WOULD HAVE A MANUAL, LIKE SINGLE USER ACCESS TO THAT PARKING SPACE.
UM, HOWEVER, UH, THERE ARE MECHANIZED UNIT OR SYSTEMS THAT WILL ALLOW FOR HIGH DENSITY KIND OF FASTER, UM, VEHICLE DELIVERY.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE LOOKED AT IT ON SEVERAL BUILDINGS, KIND OF IN THIS AREA AND, AND OTHERS IN THE COUNTRY, UH, WHERE IT'S MORE OF A ROBOTIC SYSTEM AND A ROBOTIC DELIVERY.
SO THE WAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS IS KIND OF THE LOWEST, THE LOWEST DENSITY FOR PARKING FOR THAT SECOND FLOOR.
THE FACT THAT A, THE SECOND FLOOR IS, IS STRONG ENOUGH AND IS THE CORRECT, UM, CONSTRUCTION TYPE TO HANDLE THAT PARKING AND B THERE IS A LARGE FORMAT ACCESS TO GET, YOU KNOW, A VEHICLE FROM THAT FIRST FLOOR TO THE SECOND FLOOR IS HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT IT.
UH, COULD WE FIT MORE SPACES IN THERE WITH A MECHANIZED PARKING SYSTEM? YES, DEFINITELY.
UH, HOWEVER, HOW WE, HOW WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW IS KIND OF THE LOWEST, UM, LOWEST INVESTMENT, UH, TO, TO HAVE SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, DRIVE INTO A LIFT AND, AND GET UP TO THAT SPACE.
SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION AS A FOLLOWUP TO THAT.
SO OUR IS, IS THE UNDERSTANDING IF THIS BUILDING IS COMPLETE AND I HAVE AN OFFICE IN THAT BUILDING AND I, AND I COME TO WORK ONE MORNING, I DRIVE MY CAR ONTO THAT LIFT, OR I GET OUT OF MY CAR AND I LET A PARKING ATTENDANT PARK MY CAR, OR I DRIVE IN, GET UP TO THE NEXT FLOOR.
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HOW DOES THAT GOING TO WORK? YES.I MEAN, IT CAN, IT COULD WORK EITHER WAY.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO, IF YOU WERE TO GO TO ANY BUILDING AND SAY, DOWNTOWN DALLAS, WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A, I MEAN, THE WAY THAT WE ARE LAYING IT OUT RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN DRIVE YOURSELF INTO A, INTO A LEFT AND GET UP TO THAT SECOND FLOOR.
HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR JUST, UM, JUST SAY A VALET TO DO THE SAME THING, UH, AND, AND HAVE THAT MANAGED FOR YOU.
YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK THE LIKELIHOOD OF SOMEBODY THAT'S NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE IN DOING THAT IS IT'S A STRETCH TO BELIEVE.
SO I, I HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY, I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU WHERE THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER PLACE IN THE CITY.
I'M SURE THERE ARE THAT DO THIS.
I'VE NEVER BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, PART OF THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD, HOW COMFORTABLE I WOULD DEAL.
SO I, I THINK IT'S A STRETCH TO GET FROM, YEAH, THEY CAN DO THIS AND THIS WILL BE OKAY.
UH, AS SOMETHING THAT IS PART OF THE NORM, CAUSE IT'S VERY ABNORMAL AT THE SAME TIME.
OUR RESPONSE TO THAT IS IT'D BE GREAT IF EVERYBODY TURNED THE MICROPHONES OFF, IF YOU'RE NOT TALKING, PLEASE WHY OUR RESPONSE TO THAT IS IF YOU GO LOOK AT PARKING ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, AND I BROUGHT THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION BEFORE THAT YOU WILL NOT FIND ONE ARTICLE ANYWHERE THAT SUPPORTS THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING ANY PLACE.
UM, EVERY SINGLE 120 CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES HAVE ABOLISHED ALL PARKING.
YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY ALL THIS BEFORE.
UM, ARTICLE I'M READING AN ARTICLE RIGHT NOW, HOW ELIMINATING PARKING SPACES COULD MAKE CITIES MORE NIMBLE AND EFFICIENT.
UM, A LOT OF ARTICLES ABOUT REDUCING PARKING DURING THE, UH, NEW, UH, TRANSIT STATION.
AND SO, SO IF YOU TRAVEL TO ANY OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD, YES, THEY DO HAVE THIS PARKING SYSTEM EVERYWHERE.
UM, YOU PULL IN AND GET OUT OF YOUR CAR AND IT TAKES THE CALL AWAY, TAKES IT UP THE NEXT FLOOR.
WHEN YOU'RE READY TO GO, YOU WALK UP, YOU PUT YOUR LITTLE TICKET IN THERE, IT BRINGS THE CAR.
SO DOES ADDISON WANT TO BE A CITY THAT HAS ONE OF THE NEWEST, GREATEST THINGS? AND WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT IF I SELL THE BUILDING TO SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS MORE PARKING, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS.
UM, AND SO IF THAT DAY COMES THEN YES, ADDISON'S CUTTING EDGE.
ADDISON HAS SOMETHING THAT VERY FEW CITIES HAVE.
AND TO ME, I THINK IT WOULD BE A VERY POSITIVE.
UM, AND IF YOU GUYS ARE REALLY LOOKING TO MAKE THIS CITY BETTER, WE'LL LOOK AT ALL THE PARKING ISSUES ACROSS THE BARAKA.
THERE'S EIGHT PARKING SPACES FOR EVERY SINGLE CAR IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
IT'S OVER PARKED IF 120 GOT AWAY WITH IT.
BOB, I APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS STILL ADDISON, TEXAS, AND NOT EVERY OTHER CITY THAT YOU MAY BE REVIEWING.
THE WE'RE ALL ON P AND Z IN MIND, YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO VOTE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ON THE REGULATIONS OF THE TOWN.
WE MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
IF YOU WISH TO APPEAL THE COUNCIL WITH THESE ARGUMENTS THAT YOU'RE MAKING TO US, THAT'S PROBABLY A MORE APPROPRIATE PLACE.
UM, WE ARE SIMPLY BEING ASKED TO RENDER AN OPINION ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY OF ADDISON, UM, REGULATIONS CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS.
RIGHT? I ASKED YOU GUYS TO VOTE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SPENDING $8 MILLION.
IF YOU DON'T SEE THE VALUE OF IT, THEY'RE SO CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING IN THESE OTHER ISSUES.
WE WON'T BUILD THE BUILDING, PLEASE.
HEY, WILSON, HOW MANY SPOTS DO WE ADDING WITH, UM, THE, UM, STREET PARKING? UH, I BELIEVE FIVE THAT'S ACCURATE.
SO WILSON, WE HAVE, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I HAVE TO SAY THAT I DON'T HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT PARKING.
UM, EXCEPTIONS HAVE BEEN MADE TO PARKING BEFORE, AND CERTAINLY IN PLACES THAT HAVE A LOT MORE PARKING ISSUES THAN THAT SPECIFIC AREA, I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT ASSET TO THE TOWN.
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UNDERSTAND THAT THE CLIENT, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PLAINTIFF WOULD NOT CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT TIME TO DELAY A VOTE FOR ANOTHER MONTH.UM, TO ME, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
OTHERS MAY FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO DELAY IT FOR OTHER PURPOSES AND FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
EILEEN, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE DOCUMENTS THAT WOULD GO TO COUNCIL BECAUSE THE CONSIDERATION BY THE APPLICANT, AS WELL AS THE TOWN DOES NOT INCLUDE A SECOND FLOOR SHOWROOM.
SO THAT WOULD ALL HAVE TO BE REDONE.
AND IF WE'RE WILLING TO VOTE WITHOUT HAVING ANY INFORMATION WITH THE UNDERSTANDING, IT WILL BE CHANGED BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME IS PRESENTED COUNCIL.
THEN I GUESS WE CAN GO AHEAD AND HAVE A LOAN.
UM, I JUST DIDN'T WANT UNWILLING TO DO, TO MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
UM, YOU KNOW, MY BIGGEST HANG UP WAS THE FAA.
IF WE'RE REMOVING THE RESIDENTIAL, THEN THAT GOES AWAY.
I DO HAVE A, I DO HAVE A SMALL ISSUE WITH PARKING.
I DO THINK THAT THAT REALLY COULD LIMIT USES IN THE FUTURE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE GO BY USABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE, CAUSE THERE ARE SOME RATHER LARGE TERRACES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WHAT ARE WE FOUR SHORT? AND THERE'S SIX SPOTS ON THE STREET.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK IF THE, IF THE ADVOCATE WANTS US TO VOTE, WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE VOTE.
I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD VOTE, BUT I DON'T AGREE VOTE.
THERE'S A LOT OF BACKGROUND NOISE.
UM, I DON'T AGREE THAT WE SHOULD VOTE WITHOUT THE STIPULATION THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT FROM THE EXTRA FLOOR OF A SHOWROOM, ELIMINATING THE RESIDENTS, ALL OF THAT STUFF, BECAUSE ELIMINATING THE RESIDENTS IS A BIG DEAL AND IT IS NEW NEWS.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONVERSATION, ANY INKLING OF THAT.
SO, SO LONG AS ALL OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, PROVIDED IN THE DOCUMENTATION THAT GOES FORWARD TO COUNCIL.
I'M OKAY WITH HAVING THE VOTE AS WELL.
BUT THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD JUST RUBBER STAMP SOMETHING, AND I'M NOT SAYING ANYBODY'S ASKING THAT, BUT WE WOULD DO SOMETHING WITHOUT THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION IS IRRESPONSIBLE.
AND THAT PART, I WOULDN'T SIGN UP FOR DOING THAT.
SO, SO TASK, SO THE WAY AROUND THIS IS AS LONG AS IT'S SPELLED OUT IN THE MOTION WE'RE OKAY.
AND EVERYBODY'S FINE WITH THAT THEN.
WHO IS IT? THAT'S IN THAT POSITION OF CONTROL THAT THEN SAYS, OKAY, ALL OF THOSE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ON THE PLANS ARE EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, MEET THE CONDITIONS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT WE MAY VOTE ON BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL, WHO IS THAT CONTROL PERSON? WHERE'S THAT CONTROL, I GUESS MAYBE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT ALL OF THE CONDITIONS WOULD BE.
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE DISCUSSED THE CONDITION OF THE REMOVAL OF THE RESIDENCE.
ARE THERE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS? YEAH, I THINK ACCEPTING THAT THE SECOND FLOOR SHOWROOM WOULD BE TREATED THE SAME WAY.
THE FIRST FLOOR WAS, WHICH WAS LESS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CHANGE IN THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT A TOWN WOULD HAD HAD.
THEY HAD CONCERNS WITH THE FIRST FLOOR AND NOW THERE'S A SECOND FLOOR.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE ADDING OF THE SHOWROOM, UM, AS IT IMPACTED PARKING.
SO THAT'D BE A SECOND CONDITION IF I CAN ALSO ADD, UM, THERE IS STILL THE ISSUE OF COUNT OF CALCULATING THE PARKING BASED ON THE NET SQUARE FOOTAGE RATHER THAN THE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO IF THE COMMISSION WISHES TO APPROVE THIS PLAN AND THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED NOW, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT THE WAY WE CALCULATE PARKING FOR OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE CITY.
SO, UH, THIS WOULD BE A DEVIATION FROM THAT, BUT IT WOULD NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN YOUR MOTION.
SO I GUESS THOSE MAIN THREE ITEMS. YEAH, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION ON WHEN THIS MEETING IS MADE IS WHEN THE PUBLIC IS MADE AWARE OF THIS MEETING, ARE THEY AVAILABLE TO LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTS? THE DOCUMENTS ARE ON THE, THE, THE PLANS ARE ON THE INTERNET CURRENTLY.
AND SO ARE WE VIOLATING ANY STATE REGULATIONS IN THAT WE ARE,
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WE ARE TAKING INFORMATION THAT HAS NOT BEEN PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC AND VOTING ON THAT, UM, WITHOUT GIVING DUE PROCESS TO THE PUBLIC.AND WE'LL JUST TO, JUST TO NOTE THAT WE'LL, WE FULLY INTEND TO, TO MODIFY THE DOCUMENTS, TO REPRESENT WHAT WHAT'S BEING APPROVED, THE SAME THING OR APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS TO REFLECT THE ACCURATE PROPOSAL TO WHEN WE GO TO COUNCIL AND WE CAN REVISE THOSE DOCUMENTS TO REFLECT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO DID SO MANY TAKE NOTES ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE IN THIS MOTION.
I'M WORKING ON IT AND TRYING, HEY, WILSON, I'VE JUST, I GOT ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU.
SO THE LIFT, DID YOU SAY THAT IT, IT MAY NOT COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING CODE OR FIRE CODE? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? OH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'LL HAVE TO, UH, THAT I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO FOR THE FIRM BUILDING INSPECTIONS, BUT, UM, FROM PREVIOUS CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN TOWN, THE APPLICANT, THE, THE ONE ACCESS POINT WAS AN ISSUE.
IT WAS AN ISSUE, BUT IT'S NOT A BUILDING CODE.
AND AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, NOT A ZONING CODE ISSUE, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT YOU MUST BE ABLE TO ACCESS A SECOND FLOOR VIA RAMP IN EITHER THE BUILDING CODE NOR THE NORTHERN ZONING CODE.
UH, WE HAVE ADOPTED THE NEWEST FIRE CODE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO ON THAT AS WELL.
AND I GUESS THAT WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE IN THE MOTION BECAUSE WE'RE BEING ASKED TO VOTE ON SOMETHING ON A PIECE OF INFORMATION WE HAVEN'T REALLY DISCUSSED YET.
SO WHEN WE HAVE TO INCLUDE IN THE MOTION ITEM, NUMBER FIVE OR SIX, THAT IT ALSO WOULD, WOULD PASS ANY VETTING BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR BUILDING CODE.
HI, WAYNE, ARE YOU GETTING THIS TIMING? IF I COULD KIND OF READ THROUGH SOME NOTES THAT I'VE BEEN TAKING THAT MIGHT HELP THE COMMISSION, UH, WITH YOUR MOTION? UH, IT WOULD BE THAT NO RESIDENTIAL USES ARE ALLOWED OR THAT PARKING IS CALCULATED BASED ON NET SQUARE FOOTAGE INSTEAD OF GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE ON STREET, PARKING IS ALLOWED TO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS IT'S IN THERE.
WELL, WILSON'S TELLING ME THAT'S ALREADY, UH, APPLIED AND THAT ALSO THE DEVELOPMENT MUST COMPLY WITH BUILDING AND FIRE CODES RELATION TO THE PARKING GARAGE AND LEFT CAR CARLIN.
I THINK PHIL IS ONE MORE AND SAY, IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE, THAT ALL THE DOCUMENTS WILL BE REVISED PRIOR TO PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL.
WOULD THAT ALSO HAVE BEEN THE MOTION THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE? IF I COULD ASK WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE REQUEST, I GUESS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DEVELOP A FULL SET OF DRAWINGS REGARDING, UH, THE SECOND FLOOR FIT IT OUT FOR PARKING AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET INTO A BUILDING INSPECTION REVIEW THAT MAY TAKE A WHILE.
I MEAN, OUR INTENT TONIGHT IS NOT TO DESIGN THE SECOND FLOOR AS PARKING AGAIN.
I, I THINK WE'VE RESPONDED SAYING THAT OUR INTENT IS TO DESIGN THE BUILDING TO ACCOMMODATE PARKING ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE, WHEN, WHEN THE BUILDING IS CONVERTED, IT WOULD NEED TO MEET ALL CODES AND REQUIREMENTS.
I JUST, I JUST, I DON'T WANT TO GET IT TO TOO MUCKED UP WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE CAN'T TURN AROUND, UH, BY THE NEXT MEETING.
I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT'S REQUIRED
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FOR YOUR OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT YOU'VE BEEN USING, UH, FARTHEST PROCESS.UM, I THINK WILSON IS CRACKED AND WE DO NEED TO CONSULT WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND BUILDING INSPECTIONS ON THE LIFT AND THE EXITING, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT SECOND FLOOR, I THINK IT, IT MAY BE SOMETHING WE'RE JUST NOT FAMILIAR WITH, BUT, UH, CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED, UH, IN WORKING WITH Y'ALL TO UPDATE YOUR PLANS.
AND IF I COULD SAY SOMETHING, I WOULD REQUEST THAT THE, UH, COMMITTEE JUST VOTE AND I WOULD ASK THEM TO, I DON'T THINK IT'S, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR Y'ALL TO, UH, WORRY ABOUT MY PARKING SITUATION.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S YOUR CONCERN.
IF IT WAS YOUR CONCERN, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED THE PARKWAY, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT OVER ON, UM, THE TOY OF BELTLINE ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, WHERE PARK IS A NIGHTMARE.
SO THE CITY OFFERED VALET PARK, THE, ALL THE RESTAURANTS PUT IN VALET PARKING, ALL OF THEM TO ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING PROBLEMS. SO THAT'S BEEN APPROVED.
I DON'T WANT PARKING TO BE PART OF THIS ISSUE.
THE ONLY ISSUE THAT Y'ALL, I WANT YOU TO VOTE ON.
AND IF YOU CAN'T VOTE, THEN JUST SAY SO WE CAN CAN THE WHOLE, AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.
EITHER YOU VOTE AND WE ADJUST THE FIFTH FLOOR TO BE A SHOWROOM, OR YOU DON'T, BUT PARKING IS NOT PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE ENOUGH PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE THE BUILDING THE WAY IT IS NOW.
AND WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT ACCOMMODATING IT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.
AND TOM, IF I CAN'T SELL THE BUILDING, I CAN'T SELL IT.
AND THE CITY HAS THE FIRST RIGHT TO TAKE IT FROM THE BANKS OR ANYBODY.
SO HERE, YOU'RE SITTING ON AN $8 MILLION ASSET BECAUSE I SCREWED UP BECAUSE I DIDN'T BUILD THE PROPER BUILDING UNITED BUILD ENOUGH PARKING.
SO TO ME, THAT'S A HECK OF A DEAL FOR A GUY LIKE YOU, YOU SHOULD ROLL THE DICE AND SAY, YEAH, LET'S DO THIS BECAUSE MR. BAUMAN COULD NEVER SELL THE BUILDING.
THE CITY JUST GAINED $8 MILLION NOT TO MENTION, I'M PAYING YOU 150,000 IN TAXES EVERY YEAR ON THERE.
AND RIGHT NOW YOU'RE GETTING $7,000 IN TEXAS.
WE'RE EITHER IN OR WE'RE OUT, YOU KNOW, BOB, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN.
IF YOU PAID ATTENTION TO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, A WAY OF MAKING THIS MOTION, UH, TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT IN SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU PROVIDED TODAY, JUST TO TAKE, UH, TAKE AN ACCOUNT FROM THE CHANGE THAT JUST HAPPENED DURING THIS MEETING.
SO I WOULD APPRECIATE A LITTLE BIT MORE RESPECT.
THE PARKING IS AN ISSUE, AND I'M SORRY IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS IT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE TOWN MEETS THAT CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS.
SO, SO IT DOESN'T LIMIT THE USES.
AND I'M SORRY, BUT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
IS ANYBODY READY TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
I GET ALL THIS, UM, FOR CASE 1800, 918 BAUMANN BUILDING THAT THE RESIDENCE THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE PROJECT THEY REMAINED AND THAT SHOWROOM SPACE BE ALLOWED IN PLACE OF THAT SPACE.
THAT PARKING BE CALCULATED ON THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE RATHER THAN GROSS DOCUMENTATION IS PROVIDED THAT THE SECOND FLOOR CAN ACCOMMODATE PARKING FOR FUTURE USE.
AND THAT THE LIFT THAT IS ALREADY IN THE PLANS MADE FAR COATS, WE WOULD ASK THAT ALL DOCUMENTED CHANGES WOULD BE MADE PRIOR TO PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? AND THE MOTION, IT WAS NOT CLARIFIED IF IT WAS A MOTION TO APPROVE.
WELL, THE CHAIR TIME TO COUNT THE VOTES.
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OKAY.SO GOOD LUCK AT COUNCIL AND GET ALL YOUR DOCUMENTS READY AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, HOW THAT GOES.
I JUST SEE YOUR GORGEOUS BUILDING.
[3. PUBLIC HEARING Case 1818-Z/3820 Belt Line Road. Public hearing, discussion, and take action on a recommendation regarding an ordinance changing the zoning on property located at 3820 Belt Line Road, from PD, Planned Development, to a new PD district to allow a two-story retail and office building.]
OKAY.SO OUR NEXT CASE, UM, PUBLIC HEARING CASE 18, 18, Z 38, 20 BELTLINE ROAD, PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND TAKE ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING AN ORDINANCE CHANGING THE ZONING ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 38 20 BELTLINE ROAD FROM PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO A NEW PD, DESPERATE TO ALLOW A TWO STORY RETAIL OPS BUILDING WILSON THAT WE HAVE THE STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.
WHAT'S YOUR NAME? UH, SO CASE 18, 18, Z.
UM, THIS IS A 2.034 ACRE PROPERTY.
AND SO PART OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, UM, THIS IS, UM, A LARGE PD THAT APPLIES TO SEVERAL PROPERTIES, INCLUDING ADDISON TOWN CENTER.
UH, THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY CONTAINS A ONE STORY RESTAURANT BUILDING PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY HUMPERDINCK RESTAURANT AND BREW PUB.
UH, THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN VACANT SINCE MAY, 2017, UH, ADDISON RETAIL LLC RECENTLY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY WITH THE INTENT TO DEVELOP A NEW RETAIL CENTER.
UH, GIVEN THE, UH, GIVEN THE EXISTING SITE IS GOVERNED BY THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLANS, SUCH SUCH ACTION REQUIRES A REZONING.
UM, IN 2006, THE TOWN ESTABLISHED THE BELTLINE DISTRICT REQUIRING ALL PROPERTIES ALONG THE BELTLINE ROAD CORRIDOR TO FOLLOW THE ENVISION STANDARDS AS THEY REDEVELOP THE, UM, IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE MORE DENSITY AND PROVIDE MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AND MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY EXPERIENCE.
UM, THE INTENT OF THIS REZONING IS TO PROVIDE THINGS SUCH AS, UM, COMFORTABLE AND ATTRACTIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR PEDESTRIANS, UH, CAN CONSTRUCT BUILDINGS CLOSE TO THE SIDEWALKS AND STREETS AND TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE DEFINITION, UH, AND PUBLIC PARKS AND PLAZA IS TOWN ADOPTED THE BELTLINE DISTRICT ONLY ASBURY COURT TOWNHOME NEIGHBORHOOD LOCATED JUST EAST OF THIS SITE, UH, HAS BEEN ZONED IN THE BELTLINE DISTRICTS, BUT THE BELTLINE DISTRICT, UH, ALSO SERVED AS THE FOUNDATION FOR ADDISON GROVE.
UM, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN ADDISON GROVES, UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP A NEW TWO-STORY SURFACE PART RETAIL AND OFFICE BUILDING.
THE BUILDING IS PROPOSED TO BE 3,223 SQUARE FEET WITH 2,500 SQUARE FEET.
UM, UH, FIRST FLOOR RETAIL AND A ROUGHLY 720 SQUARE FEET OF SECOND FLOOR OFFICE.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE AND WON'T REPLACE THE EXISTING RESTAURANT SPACE.
A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, UH, IS BEING PROPOSED BASED IN PART ON THE BELTLINE DISTRICT STANDARDS, AS WELL AS THE STREET CAPES, THE STREETSCAPE STANDARDS, UH, ESTABLISHED IN THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, UH, UNDER THE BELTLINE DISTRICT RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL USES ARE PERMITTED, AS OF RIGHT, AND, UH, ARE REQUIRED TO BE CONSTRUCTED AT A DEPTH OF 50 FEET.
RESTAURANT USES ARE PERMITTED THROUGH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UM, AND I'LL GET ONTO THE BLOCK FACE.
UH, THE BELTLINE DISTRICT STANDARDS CALL FOR A MINIMUM BLOCK LENGTH OF A BLOCK FACE LENGTH OF 200 FEET AND A MAXIMUM OF 600 FEET.
THE PROPOSED PLANS DO SHOW THAT THE MAIN BUILDING FACES 60, 60 FEET, THE NEW PROPOSED BUILDING AND THE EXISTING STANDALONE RESTAURANT BUILDING, UM, HAS A FACE OF 99.4 FEET AT 159.4 FEET.
THIS DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE BELTLINE DISTRICT, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS, UM, OR IS ASKING TO COUNT THE PROPERTY IN ITS ENTIRETY AS ONE FULL BLOCK, MEASURING OUT APPROXIMATELY 420 FEET IN BLOCK SPACE.
UM, THE BUILDING SET THE SETBACK, UM, IS REQUIRED TO BE 94 FEET.
AND THE SUBMITTED PLAN SHOWS A 94 FOOT SETBACK WITH A BUILDING HEIGHT OF, UM, A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 25 FEET.
MMM, THE, THE, THE STREET STANDARD STREET STANDARDS FOR, UH, THE BELTLINE DISTRICT, UM, ARE TO COMPLY WITH THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
THEY, UM, SHOW A 14 FOOT SIDEWALK DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING FACADE AND 18, A ROW, 18 FOOT ROW OF PARKING, A 24 FOOT DRIVE AISLE AND ANOTHER 18 FOOT ROW OF PARKING.
UH, THEN AFTER THAT A FOREFOOT LANDS, A LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK, UH, PROTECTED BY AN EIGHT FOOT PARKWAY BUFFER FROM BELTLINE ROAD.
THE SUBMITTED PLANS, UH, COMPLY WITH THIS EXCEPT FOR, UH, THE SECOND ROW OF PARKING, WHICH IS 17.7 FEET.
THE, UH, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE, THE BELTLINE DISTRICT
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STANDARDS AND THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.THE ROAD PARKING CLOSEST TO BELTLINE ROAD IS, UH, IS FIVE INCHES LESS THAN THE MINIMUM PARKING SPACE LENGTH.
UH, AND THIS WAS ALLOWED BY STAFF TO ACCOMMODATE LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE BELT, ALONG BELT LINE ROAD.
UH, THE LANDSCAPE PLANS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR COMPLIANCE, UM, AND THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLANS MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS.
AND THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO PROVIDE 50% OF THE FUNDING FOR THE LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG BELTLINE ROAD, INCLUDING THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS.
THE, UH, THE BUILDING FORM, UH, THE, THE BELTLINE DISTRICT STANDARDS REQUIRE, UM, TRIPARTITE, A TRIPARTITE ARCHITECTURE AND A LANDSCAPE AND A LANDMARK FEATURES, UH, WHEN A BUILDING IS LOCATED ON AN ACCESS, UH, THE PROPOSED BUILDING FACADES DO SHOW UNIQUE BUILDING ARTICULATIONS, UH, WHICH ARE OFFSET FROM FRONT WALL PAINT PLANES, UH, EXTERNAL FACADES.
SO THE BELTLINE DISTRICT STANDARDS REQUIRE A GROUND FLOOR EXTERIOR WALLS TO BE CONSTRUCTED OF 80% BRICK OR STONE AND WINDOWS AND GLAZING FOR EACH BUILDING FACADE, TO BE LIMITED TO A MINIMUM OF 30% GLAZING AND A MAXIMUM OF 70% GLAZING THE SUBMITTED PLAN SHOW THAT THE, UH, THE FACADES ARE PRIMARY BRICK OR STONE, HOWEVER, NOT ALL ELEVATIONS MEET THE GLAZING REQUIREMENTS, SHOWING THE SOUTH FACADE AT 17% GLAZING SOUTH AND SOUTH BUILDING MATERIALS ALSO, UM, ARE MADE UP OF 73% BRICK OR STONE, WHICH IS LESS THAN THE 80, THE 80% REQUIREMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THE TOWN ALLOW THE SOUTH FACADE OF THE BUILDING TO BE EXEMPT FROM THE 30% GLAZER REQUIREMENT AND THE 80% BRICK OR STONE BUILDING MATERIALS REQUIREMENTS.
THE, UH, THE PROPOSED BUILDING DOES MEET WITH OUR COLOR STANDARDS, UH, STANDARDS FOR THE BELTLINE DISTRICT TO BE A MUTED SHADES OF COLOR, UM, AND THE RETAIL GROUND FLOOR, THE BELTLINE DISTRICTS THAT REQUIRE A MINIMUM CLEAR HEIGHT OF 16 FEET BETWEEN FINISHED FLOORS AND THE APPLICANTS, UM, PLANS SHOW THAT, UH, AS FOR PARKING, THE BELTLINE DISTRICT REQUIRES A RATIO OF FOUR RETAIL OF ONE SPACE FOR 200 SQUARE FEET.
UH, AND A RESTAURANT USES ONE SPACE PER 100 SQUARE FEET FOR OFFICE ONE SPACE FOR 300 SQUARE FEET.
SO THE STANDARD THERE, UH, THE SITE SHOWS A TOTAL OF 128 SPACES, UH, AND, UH, THE PROPOSED, UH, 10,382 SQUARE FEET OF EXISTING RESTAURANT WOULD REQUIRE 112 PARKING SPACES.
THE, UH, 2,503 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL WOULD REQUIRE 13 SPACES.
AND THE 720 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE WOULD REQUIRE THREE SPACES.
ALL IN ALL THAT MEETS REQUIREMENTS AT 128 PARKING SPACES.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE BELTLINE DISTRICT DOES REQUIRE, UH, BICYCLE PARKING AT A RATIO OF ONE BICYCLE PARKING SPACE PER 10 AUTOMOBILE PARKING SPACES.
THE APPLICANT HAS MET WITH THIS ON THEIR PLANS.
UM, SO STAFF'S RECOMMEND IS APPROVAL WITHOUT CONDITIONS WHILE THE, UH, THE PROPERTY DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE, UH, THE BELTLINE STANDARDS IN THE FOLLOWING WAYS, THE BLOCK LENGTH IS SMALLER THAN REQUIRED, AND THE SOUTHERN FACADE DOES NOT PROVIDE THE REQUIRED OF GLAZING A BRICK STORM STONE.
WHILE THESE AREN'T MET STAFF RECOGNIZE THAT THE SMALL SIZE OF THE BLOCKS FACE AT 420 SQUARE FEET MAKES A MINIMUM 200 FOOT FACADE UNFEASIBLE.
ADDITIONALLY, STAFF SUPPORTS REDUCING THE MINIMUM GLAZING AND BRICK OR STONE REQUIREMENTS ON THE SOUTHERN FACADE IS THEY'RE NOT VISIBLE FROM BELTLINE ROAD.
A STAFF BELIEVES THAT THIS WILL BE A BENEFIT TO THE BELTLINE ROAD CORRIDOR.
AND, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO TAKE THEM.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR WILSON? I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF WILSON, UM, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE, UH, THE, THE STANDARDS FOR THE MASTER TRIM EFFICIENT.
ARE THEY GOING TO BE EXTENDED ACROSS THAT ENTIRE AREA, INCLUDING IN FRONT OF THE OLD HUMPERDINCK? YES.
AND, AND THE OWNER OF THIS PROPOSED BUILDING ALSO OWNS THE PROPERTY THAT HUNTER IS SITTING ON.
AND HAVE THEY DISCUSSED WITH YOU THEIR PLANS FOR THAT AND THAT LOCATION? THEY HAVE NOT.
UH, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR OLGA AND CHARLES THOUGH, SO I, I CAN REACH OUT TO THEM ACTUALLY.
UM, WE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE BEEN, QUITE FRANKLY, WE WERE TRYING TO GET A TENANT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
UH COVID CERTAINLY DIDN'T HELP.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO REUSE THE BUILDING.
WE HAD A PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU FOLKS, I THINK A YEAR OR TWO AGO, WHICH YOU APPROVED.
UM, OF COURSE YOU ULTIMATELY DIDN'T GET APPROVED AT COUNCIL.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO, TRYING TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY AND GET SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, IS PALATABLE
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AS WILSON POINTED OUT.UM, WE DID PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND, UM, I PAID, I THINK IT WAS 125, $150,000 ADDITIONAL FOR THAT.
UM, THE NEW SIDEWALK AND LANDSCAPING THAT'S GOING IN FRONT AND SOME ARE, ARE ARC FEATURES AND IN A BUS, A BUS STAND AS WELL.
SO I THINK WE'RE MAKING SOME GOOD PROGRESS.
AND, UM, I WISH I COULD TELL YOU, WE HAD A, WE HAD A TENANT FOR THE HUBBARD THINGS, BUT, BUT NOT AS OF YET.
AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THERE, TOM, I THINK THAT THE REAL QUESTION THERE IS, THIS IS TREATED AS ONE SIGHT LINE FOR BOTH BUILDINGS ON THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED IS, IS MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR AN EXISTING RESTAURANT TO FILL THAT SPACE IN ADDITION TO THE OFFICE AND RETAIL BUILDING HERE.
SO THIS IS COMING TOGETHER AS A SINGLE SITE PLAN FOR BOTH BUILDINGS ON THE SAME PARCEL.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY UP THERE DOING SOME WORK.
WE'RE TRYING TO COORDINATE THAT WITH JANET SIDWELL IN PARKS AND REC AND THEY SHOULD BE STARTING ANY DAY IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY, I SIGNED THE, UM, THE E'S WENT PAPERWORK AND THE, UH, AND FUNDED THIS, UM, PROBABLY LAST MONTH.
SO THEY HAVE EVERYTHING FROM US.
SO IT WAS JUST THE HAD BID THE PROJECT OUT AND DID THAT AS A ALL ALTERNATE, UH, AD.
SO THERE, IT WAS JUST GETTING TOGETHER WITH THE CONTRACTOR.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF, UM, WHEN GO INTO THIS CITY FACILITY THEN GOTTEN THAT FAR YET? I'M SORRY.
YOU CUT OUT THERE FOR A MINUTE.
WHAT KIND OF RESTAURANT WOULD BE GOING INTO THIS NEW FACILITY? THE PROPOSED USE IS ACTUALLY RETAIL FOR THE NEW BUS AND TYPE OF RETAIL.
I'M SUPPOSED TO DISCLOSE THAT I'M, I'M HAPPY TO, I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD MIND, BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CUSTOMER HERE IS A BATTER.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A VERIZON WIRELESS, I THINK THE NICE VERIZON WIRELESS STORE EVER REBELLED.
HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS AGREE WHAT THEY ARE.
JUST AS A REMINDER, WE DID HAVE AN EMAIL FROM A RESIDENT IS JUST THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO ENTER THAT INTO THE RECORD.
SO, UH, SINCE GREG'S ALREADY SPEAKING, SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR GREG OR FOR WILSON AT THIS TIME? NO.
NOW I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND SO, UM, WHO IS GOING TO READ, UM, THE, THE LETTER THAT WE HAD SENT WILSON, IS THAT, UH, APPROPRIATE FOR YOU? I CAN READ THAT.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ IT? IF I CAN ASK THE QUESTION OF TAD INSTEAD OF THE ENTIRE LETTER, COULD MAYBE WILSON SUMMARIZE IT AND WE ENTERED HER THE LETTER INTO THE RECORD OR DO WE REALLY HAVE TO READ IT THROUGH THE WHOLE THING? WE CAN ENTER THE LETTER INTO THE, INTO THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING AND THEN WE ALSO GET, I'M NOT SEEING THE LETTER, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT IS.
NO, I THINK HE COULD SUMMARIZE IT.
AND THEN THE LETTER COULD BE ADDED TO THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING.
SO WE'LL SEND YOU NOTE THAT NAME AND THE ADDRESS OF THE PERSON WHO, WHO SENT IT AND THEN JUST HIT THE HIGH POINT.
UM, I, UH, PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE THE, UH, THE ADDRESS, BUT I CAN ADD THAT IN TWO MINUTES INTO THE MINUTES IN EMAIL WILSON.
UH, HER NAME IS JANE LENS, UH, AND, UH, SHE RESIDES AT THREE NINE, FOUR TWO ASBURY LANE AS WE SERVE IN THE ASBURY CIRCLE TOWNHOMES IN ADDISON.
SO, UM, HER, UH, TO SUM UP THE FIRST OF THE FIRST PART OF HER QUESTIONS WERE ASKING AS TO HOW THE SITE WOULD, UH, WOULD MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE BELTLINE 1.5 PLAN.
UM, SHE ASKS ABOUT IF WE WILL BE ADDING BUS, UH, BUS STOPS AND, UM, AND A BUS BENCHES AS WELL AS TRASH RECEPTACLES, AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING ALONG A LONG BELT LINE.
AND SHE ALSO ASKS IF WE, UM, HOW PEDESTRIANS WILL WALK FROM BELTLINE INTO THE PROPERTY, WE HAVE RESPONDED WITH, UH, THE, THE ANSWERS THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER TODAY WITH THE, UM, THE APPLICANT WILL BE PROVIDING THAT 50% OF FUNDING FOR THE, TO MEET THE BELTLINE 1.5 REQUIREMENTS.
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AS THERE WILL BE A PROPERTY ENTRANCE IN THE NORTHERN PORTION, UH, THE NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE SITE, UM, OFF OF BELTLINE.THE SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION WAS, UM, SHE WAS ASKING WHETHER OR NOT THE, THE, UH, I BELIEVE SHE IS.
SHE THOUGHT THAT THE, THE ROAD THAT WAS DEPICTED ON THE SITE PLAN WAS COMMERCIAL DRIVE, BUT THAT ROAD IS A PRIVATE DRIVE THAT CONNECTS THE SITE TO COMMERCIAL DRIVE.
UM, SO SHE WAS AT, SHE WAS, SHE WAS JUST ASKING ABOUT THE LOCATION OF THAT, AND IF WE WERE POTENTIALLY MOVING THE STREETS AND HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT, UM, THE ASBURY TOWNHOMES AS TO WHICH WE RESPONDED THAT, UH, THE STREET WAS THE PRIVATE DRIVE AND THAT IT WOULD JUST CONNECT THIS SITE TO COMMERCIAL DRIVE AND NOT, NOT UPSET THE, THE FLOW OF THE TOWNHOMES.
SO SINCE THAT WAS THE ONLY CORRESPONDENCE WE HAVE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE COMMISSIONERS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR EITHER OUR APPLICANT OR FOR WILSON AT THIS TIME, OR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS CASE SEEING NONE? UM, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON, UM, ON THIS CASE? YEAH, I'LL, I'LL TAKE A SHOT.
UM, AND TWO CASE 18, 18, Z 38, 20 BELTLINE ROAD, MAKE MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE CHANGE IN THE ZONING FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ORDINANCE ZERO OH NINE THREE DASH ZERO ONE EIGHT AS AMENDED BY ORDINANCE OH ONE FIVE DASH ZERO THREE ZERO TWO.
THE NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IN ORDER TO PERMIT DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW TWO-STORY RETAIL AND OFFICE BUILDING NO CONDITIONS.
I DON'T SEE OR HEAR ANY MOTION CARRIES.
HOPEFULLY FOR THE, UH, FOR THE MAIN BUILDING.
WELL, LISTEN, CONGRATULATIONS.
YOU MADE IT THROUGH YOUR FIRST MEETING AND MEETINGS ADJOURN.