* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] ALL RIGHT. I CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER. SO BEFORE WE START EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, [1. Call Meeting to Order] LET'S DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY'S READY. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. INDEPENDABLE ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER TWO, CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION OF THE ADSENSE CITY [2. Closed (executive) session of the Addison City Council pursuant to: Section 551.071, Tex. Gov. Code, to conduct a private consultation with its attorney pertaining to: Bigelow Arizona TX-344, Limited Partnership D/B/A Suites of America and/or Budget Suites of America v. Town of Addison, Cause No. DC-19-09630, 191st Judicial District, Dallas County District Court.] COUNCIL PURSUANT TO SECTION 5,001 TEXAS GOVERNMENT. THE CODE TO CONDUCT A PRIVATE CONSULTATION WITH ITS ATTORNEY, PRETENDING TO BIGELOW, ARIZONA, TEXAS THREE, FOUR, FOUR LIMITED PARTNERSHIP, DBA OF AMERICA OR AMERICA VERSUS PAUSE NOW, 19 ZERO NINE SIX THREE ZERO ONE 91ST JUDICIAL DISTRICT, DALLAS COUNTY DISTRICT COURT. SO RIGHT NOW IS 5:45 PM. WE ARE ENTERING INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL [3. RECONVENE INTO REGULAR SESSION: In accordance with Texas Government Code, Chapter 551, the City Council will reconvene into Regular Session to consider action, if any, on matters discussed in Executive Session.] ACCEPTING THEY EXECUTIVE SESSION ALREADY. I ALREADY MENTIONED SIX, 10:00 PM. SO, UH, THERE IS NO ACTION TAKEN. AWESOME. SO, UH, LET'S GO TO THE [4. Present and Discuss Any Action Necessary or New Information Regarding the COVID-19 Pandemic.] ITEM. NUMBER FOUR, PRESENT, DISCUSS ANY ACTION NECESSARY OR NEW INFORMATION REGARDING THE COVID-19 AT THEM. YOU MAY, OR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, ON THURSDAY, JULY 2ND, GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER ORDER REQUIRING ALL TEXANS TO WEAR A FACE COVERING OVER THE NOSE AND MOUTH IN PUBLIC SPACES IN COUNTIES WITH 20 OR MORE POSITIVE COVID-19 CASES AND WITH VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS. AND THAT OBVIOUSLY APPLIES TO DALLAS COUNTY. WE HAVE MORE THAN 20 CASES. THE GOVERNOR ALSO ISSUED A PROCLAMATION GIVING MAYORS AND COUNTY JUDGES, THE ABILITY TO IMPOSE RESTRICTIONS ON SOME OUT THERE, OUTDOOR GATHERINGS OF OVER 10 PEOPLE AND MAKING, MAKING IT MANDATORY THAT WITH CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS, PEOPLE CANNOT BE IN GROUPS LARGER THAN 10, AND MUST MAINTAIN SIX FEET OF SOCIAL DISTANCING FROM OTHERS. ADDITIONALLY, ON FRIDAY, JUNE THE 26TH, THE GOVERNOR ABBOTT, UH, ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER, LIMITING CERTAIN BUSINESSES AND SERVICES AS PART OF THE STATE'S EFFORTS TO CONTAIN THE SPREAD OF COVID-19. UH, THAT DECISION BECAME OR CAME AS A RESULT OF INCREASED NUMBERS OF THE POSITIVE TEST RESULTS, INCREASED NUMBER OF HOSPITALIZATIONS. UM, AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNOR INDICATED THAT COULD BE THE RESULT OF AN INCREASE IN CASES. AND THOSE BUSINESSES THAT WERE AFFECTED WERE, UH, AMONG THE MOST, MOST VISIBLE, UH, BUSINESSES THAT WERE AFFECTED, UH, WAS, UH, WERE BARS, ALL BARS AND, AND SIMILAR, SIMILAR ESTABLISHMENTS THAT RECEIVE MORE THAN 51% OF THEIR GROSS RECEIPTS FROM THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES WERE REQUIRED TO CLOSE. THEY COULD REMAIN OPEN FOR DELIVERY AND TAKEOUT, BUT THEY COULD NOT, UH, BE OPEN FOR IN-PERSON DINING OR, OR ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION. AND THEN RESTAURANTS HAD TO, UM, REDUCE THEIR CAPACITY FROM 75% TO 50%, UH, IN ORDER, IN ORDER TO, TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, UH, THE SURGE IN CASES. UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE SEEING THAT INCREASE IN CASES, UM, THE GOVERNOR'S ORDERS AND ALL OF HIS, UH, ALL OF THE, UH, THE MINIMUM HEALTH STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED FOR VARIOUS SECTORS OF THE ECONOMY, UH, MAKE A PLEA PLEA THAT'S RIGHT. EVERY PERSON IN TEXAS, UM, EXCEPT WERE NECESSARY TO PROVIDE OR OBTAIN A SET OF ESSENTIAL SERVICES SHOULD MINIMIZE SOCIAL GATHERINGS, MINIMIZE IN PERSON CONTACT WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT AT THE SAME HOUSEHOLD. AND IT'S STRONGLY ENCOURAGED FOR FOLKS THAT ARE OVER 70 OR 65 YEARS OF AGE, UH, TO STAY AT HOME AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. UH, ADDITIONALLY IT'S BEEN REQUESTED THAT PEOPLE WASH THEIR HANDS, THEY HOME, IF THEY'RE SICK AND, AND DO OTHER THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT, UM, UH, CONTRIBUTING TO THE SPREAD OF COVID-19. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF THAT, WHERE WE CONTINUE TO OPERATE IN A, IN A SAFEST MANNER, AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. OUR TOWN HALL AND OUR SERVICE CENTER ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC BY APPOINTMENT ONLY. UM, AND WE ARE DOING ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO, TO INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC VIRTUALLY. SO BUSINESS DOES CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD, [00:05:01] BUT THROUGH VIRTUAL MEANS MAINLY, UH, OUR ATHLETIC CLUB CONTINUES TO OPERATE IT AND REDUCE THE CAPACITY. AND WE HAVE SEEN POSITIVE, UH, SUCCESS THERE. UH, AND WE ARE LEARNING WHAT OUR LIMITS ARE IN RELATION TO THE OPERATION OF OUR OUTDOOR POOL, SAME TIME. UM, SO THAT IS, UH, THAT IS SPECIFIC TO COVID-19. I DID WANT TO MAKE ONE OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON. UH, WE MADE THE DIFFICULT DECISION AND WE HAVE ANNOUNCED THIS PUBLICLY, UH, TO CANCEL ADDISON'S 20, 20 OKTOBERFEST DUE TO THE COVID-19 PRICES. UH, ADDISON NOT OKTOBERFEST IS RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF THE MOST AUTHENTIC OKTOBERFEST CELEBRATIONS OUTSIDE OF MUNICH, GERMANY, AND IT WAS SCHEDULED TO HAPPEN SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH 20TH THIS YEAR. UH, WE USUALLY INVITE, UH, AND HAVE, UH, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT JOIN US TO DRESS IN THEIR JOURNALS AND HOSEN, AND TO RAISE A BEER AND SAVE PROVOSTS. BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT THIS YEAR. SO, UH, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MADE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT AT THIS COUNCIL MEETING. AGAIN, WE MADE THAT, UH, ANNOUNCEMENT PUBLICLY EARLY TO EARLIER TODAY, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE THAT, UM, HAD GOING FORWARD, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNEW THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY HAS AT THIS TIME. I, WITH ONE OF THE RESIDENTS ASKED ME ABOUT, UH, WHEN WE WERE GOING TO OPEN UP THE POOL FOR SUNDAY USE. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH, WE, UH, WHEN WE, WHEN WE DECIDED WE WOULD OPEN THE POOL, WE NEEDED TO BE HIRE LIFEGUARDS. UH, OUR NORMAL, UH, UH, NUMBER OF LIFEGUARDS IS MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO HIRE AT THIS TIME. AND SO WHEN WE DECIDED WE WOULD OPEN IT A LIMITED CAPACITY WITH FEWER LIFEGUARDS, WE LOOKED AT WHAT OUR, UH, OUR, OUR HIGHEST UTILIZATION DAYS WERE. AND SO, UM, UH, SUNDAY AND MONDAY WERE THE LOWEST UTILIZATION DAYS, AND WE DECIDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE OPEN THE DAYS THAT PEOPLE UTILIZE THE POOL THE MOST. AND SO THAT IS THE REASON WE MADE THOSE DECISIONS. AND UNTIL WE GET ADDITIONAL LIFEGUARDS HIRED, WHEN YOU'RE NOT PLANNING ON OPENING ON SUNDAY OR MONDAY, WHEN, AS YOU MENTIONED, CAPACITY ON THE POOL, IS THAT WHAT'S LIMITING THE AVAILABILITY OF BRINGING GUESTS? UH, PARTLY. YES. UM, W WE, WE OPENED UP AT ABOUT 25% OF THE CAPACITY FOR THE, UH, THE, THE POOLS AND ASHLEY, IF I MAKE A MISTAKE, TEARS IN SPEAKING, PLEASE CORRECT ME. BUT, UH, WITH THE LIFEGUARDS THAT WE HAVE BEEN HIRED HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HIRE, WE HAVE REALIZED THAT IT, IT TAKES A LOT MORE EFFORT FOR THOSE LIFEGUARDS TO NOT ONLY KEEP TRACK OF THE FOLKS IN THE POOL, BUT THEN ALSO TO CLEAN THE AREA WHEN PEOPLE BE. AND SO, BECAUSE OF THE COMBINATION OF THAT, WE THINK THAT WE'RE HESITANT TO, TO, TO, TO ALLOW THE GUESTS TO COME IN, BECAUSE WE THINK BECAUSE OF THE CLOSURE OF OTHER, UH, UH, PUBLIC, UH, POOL FACILITIES, THAT THERE WILL PROBABLY BE A LARGER NUMBER OF GUESTS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE FINDING THAT WE'RE HAVING A HARDER TIME THAN WE ANTICIPATED, UH, WITH EVEN THE 25% CAPACITY, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE AT SOMEWHERE AROUND 30 ISH, IT RANGES BETWEEN 35 AND 50 PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE THERE AT A TIME. SO WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE, WHO ARE WE GOING TO LET IN, WE WANT TO GIVE FIRST A FIRST PREFERENCE TO GET FOR SOME MEMBERS, EXCUSE ME, AS OPPOSED TO THOSE WHO MIGHT BRING GUESTS. WE HAVE SO FAR, I HAVE HIRED, EXCUSE ME, I THINK WE HAVE 10 OR 12 CURRENTLY. UH, ACTUALLY HOW MANY, UM, LIVE ARTS HAVE WE HIRED? I THINK WE'RE AT 10TH, WE NEEDED 12. WE HAVE, WE HAVE 10 LIFEGUARDS RIGHT NOW. YES. YOU KNOW, AS A MATTER OF FACT, 25%, SHOULDN'T BE GOOD BECAUSE I HAVE A FINANCE. AND RECENTLY I WENT TO GYM EVERY DAY, NOT TO SAY THAT APPLY TO EMILY, BUT I FIND IT BECAUSE OF THE, OF OPERATIONS AND SO FORTH. SO YOU'RE NOT REALLY ALLOWED TO MANY PEOPLE GATHER AT THE SAME AREA, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU PUT A MASK ON, YOU KNOW, BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT OUTDOOR SWIMMING POOL, THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN PUT THE BASKETBALL. SO, UH, SO I THINK 25% IS A GOOD PERCENTAGE. WE'LL CONTINUE TO REVIEW THE SITUATION. WE'RE NOT, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE PRUDENT. IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO DO SOMETHING WE WILL, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT RUNNING FASTER THAN ONE [00:10:04] ANIMAL QUESTION ON THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. BECAUSE LATER ON WE HAVE A, Y I CAN TALK ABOUT CARES ACT. SO, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO MENTION IN THIS ITEM. SO, UH, IF WITHOUT FURTHER QUESTION, WE'LL GO TO [5. Present and Discuss Updated Projections of the Potential Financial Impacts to the Town of Addison Due to the Economic Disruption Related to the COVID-19 Pandemic.] ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PRESENT, DISCUSS UPDATED PROJECTION OF THE POTENTIAL FINANCIAL IMPACTS. SO THE TOWN OF EDISON DUE TO THE ECONOMIC DISRUPTION RELATED TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC, STEVEN, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. ONE SECOND WHILE I SHARE MY SCREEN, CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN? YES, YES. OKAY. SO, UH, THIS EVENING I HAVE FOR YOU AN UPDATED PRESENTATION, UH, WHICH IS UPDATED AS OF JULY, UH, RELATED TO THE ANTICIPATED FINANCIAL IMPACT OF COVID-19. UH, THIS IS, UH, A VERY SIMILAR PRESENTATION TO THE ONE THAT WAS GIVEN BACK ON APRIL 14TH. AND WE, UH, WE HAVE TAKEN, UH, THE DATA THAT WE HAVE NOW AND UPDATED THOSE PROJECTIONS, UH, AND HOPEFULLY PROVIDING A MORE REALISTIC, UH, ENDING POINT, UH, GOING FORWARD FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 AND THEN INTO THE FUTURE. SO WHAT WE DID FOR THIS PRESENTATION WAS WE LOOKED BACK AT WHERE WE THOUGHT WE HAD SOME VULNERABILITIES AND, UH, THOSE AREAS REALLY DIDN'T CHANGE AT ALL. SO IN THE GENERAL FUND, UH, STILL FOCUSED ON SALES TAX, MIXED BEVERAGE TAX, UH, GOING FORWARD INTO, INTO FUTURE YEARS, UH, POTENTIALLY TAXABLE VALUES, AND THEN LOOKING AT OUR OPERATING EXPENDITURES AND FUND BALANCE. AND WITHIN THE AIRPORT FUND, THE AREAS THAT WE ANTICIPATED BEING, UH, DISRUPTED WERE PRIMARILY, UH, FUEL FLOWAGE FEES AND THEN RENTAL INCOME, WHICH WOULD, UH, PLAY SOME DOWNWARD PRESSURE ON THE WORKING CAPITAL. AND THEN WITHIN THE HOTEL FUND, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST DRIVER THERE IS OUR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES, WHICH THOSE BEING REDUCED, UH, PR PLACES, SOME DOWNWARD PRESSURE ON THE FUND BALANCE. AND THEN LOOKING FOR WAYS TO, UH, KEEP THAT FUND BALANCE AT A, AT A, UH, NECESSARY LEVEL, UH, WITH REGARDS TO CHANGING THE WAY THAT SOME OF THE OPERATING EXPENDITURES, UH, ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED, UH, AND ON THE UTILITY FUND, UH, LOOKING AT THE WATER AND SEWER REVENUE IN ANY IMPACT THAT, UH, WOULD OCCUR THERE AND, UH, SEEING IF THAT PLACE ANY DOWNWARD PRESSURE ON OUR WORKING CAPITAL. AND THEN AGAIN, THAT THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT, UH, IS MOSTLY THE SAME HERE. SO WE REVIEWED THE EFFECTS OF OTHER CRISIS SITUATIONS, NINE 11, THE GREAT RECESSION, UH, LOOKING BACK AT BOTH OF THOSE SCENARIOS, SALES TAX FELL BY 10% AND TOOK ABOUT THREE YEARS TO FULLY RECOVER, UH, TAXABLE VALUES, WHICH ARE JANUARY 1ST OF EACH YEAR, FELL IN THE SECOND YEAR, FOLLOWING EACH CRISIS AND DID NOT FULLY RECOVER FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS. AND THEN AIRPORT RENTAL INCOME FELL BY ABOUT 10% AND DID NOT FULLY RECOVER FOR THREE YEARS. AND THEN ON THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX SIDE, THOSE FELL BY 25% AND DID NOT RECOVER FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS. SO MOVING FORWARD. SO OUR REVISED ASSUMPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE, UM, WE HAVE A, A STILL, UH, THE SAME RECOVERY TIME ESTIMATE OF 18 TO 36 MONTHS. UH, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY PRESENTED THIS BACK IN APRIL, WE PRESENTED A RANGE OF, OF DIFFERENT POTENTIAL LOSSES THAT WE ANTICIPATED, UH, FOR SALES TAX. WE WERE ANTICIPATING, UH, BETWEEN A 10 AND 16% LOSS IN SALES TAX. THOSE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE POSITIVE THAN WE ANTICIPATED. SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A 10% LOSS IN SALES TAX, UH, ON THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX SIDE, WE WERE ANTICIPATING, UH, BACK IN APRIL BETWEEN A 15 AND 25% LOSS OF HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. THOSE HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT SLOWER TO RECOVER, AND WE'RE LOOKING LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSER TO THAT 25% LOSS ON THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, UH, FOR THE AIRPORT RENTAL REVENUE. UH, ORIGINALLY WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS, UH, WE ANTICIPATED A LOSS BETWEEN SEVEN AND 11%, AND THAT HAS BEEN MORE POSITIVE THAN THAT. SO GOING FORWARD, WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST A FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT LOSS IN THAT REVENUE SOURCE AND ON THE FUEL FLOWAGE FEES, WE HAD ORIGINALLY ESTIMATED EIGHT 29 TO 41% REVENUE LOSS IN THAT SOURCE. [00:15:01] AND THOSE ARE TRENDING A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN WE ANTICIPATED. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MORE OPTIMISTIC NUMBER OF 29% LOSS IN THAT REVENUE SOURCE, UM, ON THE WATER AND SEWER SIDE, UH, THESE WEREN'T GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT LOSSES IN OUR ESTIMATION, BUT, UH, WE DID ANTICIPATE THREE TO 8% IN WATER REVENUE, UH, BEING LOST AND THEN ZERO TO 5% IN SEWER REVENUE. UH, WHAT WE'VE SEEN TODAY IS THAT THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY, UH, IF AT ALL, UH, AFFECTED BY THE EFFECTS OF COVID-19. WE HAVE SEEN SOME DECREASE ON THE SMALL COMMERCIAL SIDE, WHICH IS WHERE, WHERE THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY, UH, BILLS ARE GENERATED FROM. BUT WE'VE ALSO SEEN A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE ON OUR MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS JUST ABOUT THE, THEY'RE BOTH ABOUT THE SAME SIZE SECTOR. SO, UM, AND THEN THE IRRIGATION REVENUE THAT WE'VE SEEN HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER AT THIS POINT OF THE FISCAL YEAR, 2020, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT IT WAS IN FISCAL YEAR 2019. SO WE'RE TRENDING IN THE RIGHT WAY, IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON THE, UH, UTILITY FUND REVENUE SIDE THERE. UM, WE STILL ANTICIPATE A SLOW RECOVERY BASED ON OUR MODEL AND FULL RECOVERY OF THE ECONOMY. AND THEN WITHIN SOME OF THESE, THESE FUNDS, THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THAT, UH, THERE COULD BE SOME SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS IN EXPENDITURES REQUIRED OR CHANGES IN PRIORITIES. SAY STEVEN. YES, SIR. SINCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ASSUMPTIONS, WOULD YOU COMMENT ON THE ASSUMPTIONS RELATED TO PROPERTY VALUE INCREASES? OKAY. RIGHT. UH, SO FOR FISCAL YEAR, UH, 21, THE BUDGET THAT IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE PRELIMINARY TAX ROLLS ABOUT $116 MILLION IN NEW PROPERTIES AND ABOUT THREE TO THREE AND A HALF PERCENT GROWTH IN EXISTING PROPERTIES. SO, UM, GOING FORWARD, UH, TO THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, UM, YOU WILL SEE ABOUT A THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE IN REVENUE FROM EXISTING PROPERTIES. AND THEN THE REVENUE GENERATED FROM THE HUNDRED AND $16 MILLION, UH, ADDED TO THE ROLL IN NEW PROPERTIES, UH, WOULD BE BASICALLY OUR TAX RATE TIMES THE $116 MILLION. UH, SO THAT THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, UH, OVERALL IT COMES OUT TO BE JUST UNDER 5% IN TOTAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, UH, ANTICIPATED FOR, UH, NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AND THAT'S BEFORE A TAX RATE, WHAT THAT RATE IS BEHIND THAT, THAT DOESN'T. SO, SO WITHOUT HAVING THE CERTIFIED VALUES, THOSE ARE WHAT DETERMINES WHAT THE RIGHT WOULD BE. SO VALUES GO UP THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. THE RATE WOULD BE EXACTLY THE SAME AND IT WOULD GENERATE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT MORE REVENUE. UM, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? WELL, JUST ON THIS SLIDE THAT YOU'RE ON, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AD VALOREM TAX PLANNING FOR 2021, RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE PROPERTY VALUES, SOME TAX RATE, CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT TAX RATE WOULD BE RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ASSUMING ANY CHANGE IN THE M AND O SIDE OF THE TAX RATE FOR THIS PRESENTATION. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. WHAT'S DRIVING THAT NUMBER IS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DONE BUDGET WITH OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS. NUMBER ONE, AND NUMBER TWO, WE DON'T HAVE THE CERTIFIED VALUES FROM DALLAS COUNTY. SO WE CAN'T GUESS WHAT THAT, WAIT, YOU HAVE A PRELIMINARY NUMBER, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL NUMBER. AND THAT CHANGES I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I WAS CLARIFYING THE ASSUMPTION, RIGHT? SO WHEN WE GET THE, UM, CERTIFIED TAX ROLL ON JULY 24TH, THAT'LL REALLY HELP US KNOW WHAT, IF THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE THAT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT REVENUE INCREASE, IF THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE IN THE RATE, OR IF IT'S JUST BECAUSE THE VALUES WENT UP. SO THEY HAVE AN INVERSE EFFECT. THE, UH, IF THE VALUES GO UP, THE RATE CAN STAY THE SAME. AND IF THE VALUES DON'T GO UP, THEN THE RATE WOULD GO UP. DOES THAT, IS THAT CLEAR? I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE ASSUMPTIONS. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. UH, SO MOVING ON TO THE GENERAL FUND ANALYSIS. SO, UM, WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE, IN THE FIRST COLUMN, WE HAVE WHAT THE ORIGINAL FISCAL YEAR 2020 BUDGET WAS, UH, NEXT TO THAT WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE THAT WAS GIVEN TO COUNCIL BACK ON APRIL 14TH. UM, AND FROM THAT, WE WANTED TO SHOW THE CHANGES FROM THOSE ESTIMATES ON APRIL 14TH, TO THE ESTIMATE THAT WE'RE MAKING TODAY, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF JULY. AND THEN IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE PRESENTATION BACK IN APRIL, WE HAD TWO PLANNING SCENARIOS. [00:20:01] ONE WAS A MORE, UH, OPTIMISTIC VIEW. AND ONE WAS A MORE PESSIMISTIC VIEW, UH, BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE HAVE NOW, WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF HONE THAT IN AND GET THAT DOWN TO A ONE SINGLE PLANNING SCENARIO, UH, GOING FORWARD. UH, SO LOOKING AT THE CHANGES, UM, AS FAR AS THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE TO THE REVISED ESTIMATE, UH, WE'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT $75,000 MORE IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY DUE TO, UH, CURRENT COLLECTIONS ARE EXCEEDING THE BUDGET. HOWEVER, UM, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT, UH, REFUNDS FROM, UH, DELINQUENT TAXES. SO OVERALL FROM THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE ABOUT A $74,000 INCREASE FROM THAT STILL A LITTLE BIT BELOW WHAT WE BUDGETED OVERALL ON THE SALES TAX SIDE, WE HAD ORIGINALLY BROUGHT THE EXCUSE ME, WE HAD ORIGINALLY BROUGHT THE ESTIMATE DOWN TO JUST UNDER 12.7 MILLION, UM, FROM THE BUDGET OF 13.7 MILLION. UH, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS, IS ABOUT A $900,000 POSITIVE VARIANCE FROM THAT. UH, SO WE ARE LOOKING LIKE WE POTENTIALLY COULD HIT OUR BUDGET. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROJECTING ABOUT 13 POINT $6 MILLION. I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF WE EXCEED THAT 13 POINT $7 MILLION BUDGET AND THEN GOING FORWARD, WE'RE PROJECTING THAT 10% REDUCTION IN SALES TAX, UH, ON THE PLANNING SIDE. SO, UH, THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR FISCAL YEAR, 2020, UH, WE'RE VERY POSITIVE IF WE HAD KEPT THAT PACE UP, UH, WE WOULD HAVE ENDED UP CLOSER TO $15 MILLION IN SALES TAX. SO THAT'S WHY YOU STILL SEE A REDUCTION ON THE PLANNING SIDE, EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HIT OUR BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 20. UH, THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THOSE WERE REALLY INFLATED BY, UH, VERY STRONG NUMBERS, UH, THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WHICH DUE TO CODE WOULD HAVE FALLEN OFF, BUT NOT, BUT NOT NEARLY AS BADLY AS WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT, UH, MIXED BEVERAGE TAXES. UH, ORIGINALLY WE HAD BROUGHT THIS BACK, ASSUMING THAT WE WOULD GET NO, NO ADDITIONAL MIXED BEVERAGE TAXES THROUGHOUT THE REMAINDER OF FISCAL YEAR 2020. UH, WE HAVE REVISED THAT ESTIMATE UP $210,000 TO DATE. WE'RE JUST UNDER $600,000 COLLECTED, AND WE WILL GET ANOTHER PAYMENT, UH, FOR THE THIRD QUARTER, UH, ON JULY 20TH. SO WE'LL GET SOME ADDITIONAL DATA AT THAT POINT. UM, I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF WE DID EXCEED THAT $650,000 NUMBER, AND THEN GOING FORWARD PROJECTING A 10% DECREASE ON THE MIXED BEVERAGE SIDE, UH, FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021, UM, OTHER REVENUE SOURCES. AND THESE ARE FRANCHISE FEES, WHICH ARE ELECTRIC TELEPHONE, CABLE FRANCHISE, UM, NATURAL GAS, UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, OUR BUILDING PERMITS ARE HOUSED HERE. UM, LET'S SEE FINES, UH, AMBULANCE FEES. UM, ALL OF THOSE, THOSE BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT'S NOT ATTACKS IS, IS KIND OF HOUSED HERE. SO TRADITIONALLY THE TOWN HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY OVER, UH, OVER THE BUDGET IN THESE AREAS. WE'RE SEEING THAT TREND CONTINUE THIS YEAR. UH, WE ORIGINALLY BROUGHT THIS UP I'M BACK IN APRIL AT JUST UNDER 5.8 MILLION, WHICH WAS STILL HIGHER THAN, THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED. WE'RE REVISING THAT UP ABOUT $775,000 MORE. SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING EXCEEDING THE BUDGET IN THAT CATEGORY BY JUST OVER A MILLION DOLLARS AND THEN MOVING FORWARD INTO FISCAL YEAR 2021, STILL CONSERVATIVE, BUDGETING, UH, LOOKING AT, UH, AN INCREASE, BUT IT'S STILL COMPARED TO WHAT'S ACTUALLY OCCURRED A FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER AND THEN THE FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGES. SO THE ORIGINAL FISCAL YEAR 2020 BUDGET ANTICIPATED A, UH, A DRAW DOWN TO FUND ONE TIME PROJECTS OF JUST OVER $4 MILLION, BRINGING THE FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE DOWN TO 36%, UM, DUE TO A BEGINNING FUND BALANCE THAT WAS ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION MORE DOLLARS THAN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET HAD. UH, WE REVISED THAT BACK IN APRIL AND ANTICIPATED, ALTHOUGH THE, THE PLAN DRAW DOWN GROUPS, UH, SLIGHTLY, UH, THE FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE, UH, WAS ANTICIPATED TO BE CLOSER TO 43 AND A HALF PERCENT. AND THEN WHERE WE SIT TODAY, WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE TO END UP CLOSER TO 50%. SO REALLY POSITIVE NEWS FOR THE GENERAL FUND. UM, YOU KNOW, IT ACTUALLY, OUR, OUR REVENUE ESTIMATES LOOK LIKE WE'RE GOING TO EXCEED THE REVENUE THAT WAS BUDGETED. SO OVERALL VERY POSITIVE FOR THE GENERAL FUND. UH, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GENERAL [00:25:01] OKAY. I'LL MOVE ON TO THE AIRPORT FUND. SO AIRPORT FUND, AGAIN, BEGINNING WITH SOME GOOD NEWS, THEY STARTED THE FISCAL YEAR WITH, UH, JUST UNDER ONE POINT $8 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL WORKING CAPITAL THAN WAS ANTICIPATED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 BUDGET. UH, WE RECEIVED A, UH, LAND REIMBURSEMENT GRANT, WHICH COUNCIL HAD ADOPTED A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR, UH, AND THAT AMOUNT WAS THREE, UH, ONE POINT $3 MILLION. SO THAT IS REFLECTED HERE AS WELL. SO NO CHANGE FOR MEDIC ROLE TO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING NOW ON THE SERVICE FEE SIDE, THAT WAS AN AREA THAT WE ANTICIPATED BEING FAIRLY SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, HIT BY COVID-19. OUR ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS JUST UNDER $600,000, UH, SEEN A MORE POSITIVE, UH, UH, OUTLOOK OVER, UH, ON THE FUEL FLOW HP SIDE. SO THAT THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN REVISED UP TO $700,000. AND THEN GOING FORWARD, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $750,000 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021, WHICH IS THE MORE OPTIMISTIC 29% REDUCTION RATHER THAN THE 41% REDUCTIONS, UH, THAT WE SHOWED BACK IN APRIL ON THE RENTAL INCOME SIDE. ORIGINALLY, UH, WHEN WE SHOWED THIS BACK IN APRIL, WE ANTICIPATED ABOUT A $500,000 REDUCTION. UH, WE'VE BEEN TRENDING MORE POSITIVELY THAN THAT. SO WE ANTICIPATE JUST, JUST OVER A $200,000 REDUCTION FROM THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, AND THEN GOING FORWARD, UH, A MORE, UH, OPTIMISTIC VIEW, UH, OF A 4.5% DECREASE FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 BUDGET, AS OPPOSED TO BETWEEN SEVEN, EIGHT, 11%. THAT WAS PROJECTED BACK IN APRIL. AND ADDITIONALLY, A TRANSFER IN THAT TRANSFER IN WAS RELATED TO A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND TO SEND $700,000 TO THE AIRPORT FUND FOR AN INTERFUND LOAN THAT THE AIRPORT WILL PAY BACK OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. AND WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WORKING CAPITAL OVERALL, THE BUDGET AND WORKING CAPITAL, UH, PER THE BUDGET WAS JUST UNDER 47% ANTICIPATED. UH, EVEN WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS BACK IN APRIL, UH, WE S WE WERE ANTICIPATING 85%, UH, ENDING FUND BALANCE. AND THAT'S REALLY RELATED TO THE, UH, WORKING CAPITAL, BEING SO MUCH STRONGER GOING INTO THE FISCAL YEAR, THEN WHAT WAS, UH, SHOWN ON THE BUDGET AND THEN OUR REVISED ESTIMATE. IT IS EVEN BETTER THAN THAT. UH, JUST UNDER 99% OF ENDING WORKING CAPITAL IS ANTICIPATED FOR THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 2020. AND ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AIRPORT WE'RE MOVING ONTO THE HOTEL FUND AND THE, AND THIS WAS THE FUND THAT WE ANTICIPATED BEING THE HARDEST TO SOLVE. AND, AND THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT WAS GOING TO BE HIT THE HARDEST BY COVID-19, UH, THAT IS STILL THE CASE AS SOME GOOD NEWS BEGINNING, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2020, OUR FUND BALANCE WAS A OVER $420,000 MORE THAN WHAT THAN WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED IN THE FISCAL YEAR, 2020 BUDGET. SO, SO GOOD NEWS THERE. UM, OTHER GOOD NEWS IS THAT HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES ARE TRENDING POSITIVELY COMPARED TO WHAT WE BROUGHT BACK IN APRIL. WE ANTICIPATED JUST OVER TWO POINT $4 MILLION, UH, BEING OUR, UH, HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES FOR FISCAL YEAR 20. WE REVISED THAT UPWARDS, UH, ALMOST, UH, JUST UNDER $600,000, UH, TO A TOTAL OF $3 MILLION, UH, WHICH IS FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT. AND THEN GOING FORWARD FOR PLANNING FISCAL YEAR 21, WE'RE ANTICIPATING A 25% REDUCTION FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 BUDGET. SO THAT, THAT IS THE MORE PESSIMISTIC VIEW. WE HAVE SEEN HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES INCREASE, BUT IT HAS BEEN SLOWER THAN, THAN WHAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE AND HOPE FOR. SO HOPEFULLY OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, WE CAN CONTINUE TO SEE POSITIVE IMPROVEMENT WITH THAT REGARD. AND HOPEFULLY IT PICKS UP A LITTLE BIT MORE STEAM THAN, THAN IT'S HAD OVER THE LAST MONTH OR TWO, UH, PROCEEDS FROM SPECIAL EVENTS THOSE EVENTS HAVE SINCE BEEN CANCELED. SO THE, THE REVENUE THAT'S SHOWN THERE IS REVENUE FROM LAST OCTOBER FEST. UM, SOME OF THAT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY COULD STILL BE FOR SPONSORSHIPS THAT MAY BE, MAY EVEN BE REFUNDED AT THIS POINT AS WELL. UH, PLANNING GOING FORWARD, A SLIGHT REDUCTION, UH, WITH THE PLANNING SCENARIOS, UH, FOR THE PROCEEDS, UH, CONFERENCE CENTER RENTAL, UH, THOSE NUMBERS ARE MORE YEAR TO DATE NUMBERS, AND THEN BEING REVISED DOWN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021, UH, SAME, SAME SCENARIO THERE FOR THE, UH, THEATER CENTER. UH, [00:30:01] THOSE NUMBERS ARE FISCAL YEAR TO DATE. AND THEN THE PLANNING SCENARIO KEEPS THOSE REVENUE, UH, FOR THE THEATER CENTER, FLAT, UH, INTEREST EARNINGS AND OTHER REVENUES. WE'VE SEEN A SLIGHT UPTICK ON, ON THOSE. UM, AND THOSE ARE ANTICIPATED TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT OVER BUDGET FROM NEXT YEAR. THAT'S NOT A MAJOR REVENUE SOURCE, HOWEVER, UH, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE OF THE HOTEL FUND, UH, THE BUDGET HAD A ENDING FUND BALANCE OF JUST OVER 37%. UH, WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS BACK, UH, TO YOU IN APRIL, UM, WE HAD NOT ADJUSTED THE EXPENDITURES, YOU KNOW, WE, WE STILL HAD IN OUR SCENARIOS, THE, UM, THE SPECIAL EVENTS OCCURRING AS FAR AS KABOOM TOWN AND OCTOBER FEST. SO THAT FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE WAS GOING TO GO DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY DOWN TO 10, JUST OVER 10%, UH, SINCE THEN, UH, WITH THE EVENTS NOT OCCURRING, UM, THAT HAS REDUCED THE EXPENDITURE SIGNIFICANTLY BY OVER TWO POINT $8 MILLION. UH, SO THAT HAS MADE THE FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE 58% AS OPPOSED TO 10% THAT WAS PROJECTED BACK IN APRIL. AND THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THAT IS, ALTHOUGH THE FUND BALANCE NUMBER IS NOT CHANGED AS FAR AS WHAT'S BUDGETED IN THE REVISED ESTIMATE, UH, THE EXPENDITURES HAVE DECREASED SO MUCH THAT IT MAKES THE FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE HIGHER. SO THE FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGES, THE FUND BALANCE DIVIDED BY THE OPERATING EXPENDITURE. SO AS THOSE OPERATING EXPENDITURES GO DOWN THE SAME, THE SAME DOLLAR VALUE OF FUND BALANCE CREATES A HIGHER PERCENTAGE. SO, UH, OVERALL IT'S A, IT'S LOOKING MORE POSITIVE FOR THE HOTEL FUND, UH, THAN WHAT WE PRESENTED IN APRIL AND, UH, REALLY, REALLY KUDOS TO THE FOLKS THAT WORK OVER THERE FOR, FOR FINDING SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EXPENDITURE SAVINGS. STEPHEN, I WANT TO JUST, UH, KIND OF RE REITERATE SOMETHING THAT POSITIVE NUMBERS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020. SO, UH, WE WILL STILL HAVE A CHALLENGE FOR FISCAL FISCAL YEAR 2021. AND WE'RE IN FACT HAVING SOME, UH, HARD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE, WHAT DECISIONS WE ESTIMATE 2021. AND YOU NOTICE WITH, UH, THE FUNDING BALANCE ONLY FUND BALANCES AND PERCENTAGES ARE TO BE DETERMINED. UH, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE NEXT YEAR, UH, GIVEN THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE COVID-19, UH, AND THEN IT WILL STILL HAVE A MATERIAL IMPACT ON OUR HOTEL, ON OUR HOTELS AND OUR TOURIST ACTIVITY. UH, SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY CHECK IT, BUT IT'S STILL, WE'RE STILL PLANNING FOR 2021, IF THERE'S GONNA BE A COVEN IMPACT TO, TO WHAT WE'RE DOING. COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. YES, SIR. ABOUT 23 HOTELS. I DO KNOW CHROM PLAZA IS CLOSED CORRECTLY. OTHER HOTELS FOLLOWS THE DATE. NO. WELL THEN WHAT'S THE AVERAGE OCCUPANCY ON THE FALL, THOSE 22 HOTELS, WE HAVE SEEN THE OCCUPANCY, IT, IT BOTTOMED OUT AT I BELIEVE 13.2%. AND I BELIEVE THAT THE HIGHEST OCCUPANCY THAT I HAVE SEEN TODAY HAS BEEN IN THE RANGE OF 34%. SO STILL FAIRLY SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN, THAN WHAT IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST. BUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM ARE OPERATING AT ABOUT 50% OF WHAT, WHAT THEIR NORMAL OCCUPANCY HAS BEEN. SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S JUST BEEN SLOWER. WE WE'VE BEEN IN THE 30, 30% RANGE FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS, SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE SINCE THEN, BUT IT HAS BEEN TRENDING UP. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOTEL FUND? OKAY. I WILL MOVE TO THE UTILITY FUND. UH, SO THE UTILITY FUND IS A FUND THAT WAS NOT ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED, UH, FROM, FROM COVID-19. AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN TODAY, DATE HAS CONFIRMED THAT, AND IT'S BEEN MORE, UH, YOU KNOW, RELATED TO WHETHER, UH, IS, IS GOING TO AFFECT THIS FUND MORE THAN ANYTHING. SO, UH, TODAY, UH, WE HAVE SEEN POSITIVE VARIANCES IN OUR WATER AND SEWER REVENUES COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. SO WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS BACK IN APRIL, WE HAD ORIGINALLY BROUGHT DOWN OUR REVENUES, UH, SLIGHTLY ABOUT $350,000. UH, WE REVISING THAT BACK UP TO WHAT A BUDGETED NUMBER WAS, UH, JUST OVER $7 MILLION AND THEN MOVING FORWARD ON THE PLANNING SCENARIO, UH, THOSE NUMBERS ARE FROM THE ADOPTED RATE MODEL, UH, FOR THE TOWN, UH, GOING FORWARD, AS FAR AS SEWER REVENUES, WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE ANY [00:35:01] IMPACT ON THE SEWER SIDE, AS FAR AS FISCAL YEAR 2020. AND THEN AGAIN, THE NUMBERS ON THE PLANNING SCENARIO ARE FROM THE CITIES OR FROM THE TOWNS, UH, RATE MODEL. SO OVERALL THIS FUND IS STILL IN A VERY, VERY GOOD SPOTS. THE ORIGINAL, UH, ENDING WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE WAS GOING TO BE, UH, 36%. UH, OUR ORIGINAL ESTIMATE ESTIMATE REVISE THAT UP ABOUT 4%. AND THE REASON BEHIND THAT IS PRIMARILY USING SOME RESIDUAL BOND FUNDS RATHER THAN FUNDS TO PAY FOR A PORTION OF THE BASE AND I, UH, SEWER REROUTE PROJECT. AND THEN THE CHANGES THAT WE ANTICIPATE ARE, UH, $106,000 POSITIVE VARIANCE. THAT'S BASICALLY THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE GENERATED, UH, THE LESS, THE ADDITIONAL WATER THAT WE ANTICIPATE PURCHASING NOW THAT WE'RE REVISING OUR WATER, UH, SALES BACKUPS. SO OVERALL, UH, ENDING FA ENDING WORKING CAPITAL JUST UNDER 40% SO WELL WITHIN THE TOWN'S POLICY AND, UH, MOVING POSITIVELY. SO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE UTILITY FUND? OKAY. SO THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 SUMMARY, SO SAVINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GENERATED IN THE GENERAL FUND ARE SALARY SAVINGS OF OVER $750,000. THIS IS RELATED TO, UM, UH, VACANCIES, UH, YOU KNOW, ELECTIONS OF, OF HEALTH BENEFITS AND JUST, JUST SAVINGS. IT'S NOT RELATED TO, UH, ANY CHANGES IN SERVICE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UH, THE SERVICES AND SUPPLIES MOSTLY RELATED TO UTILITIES, UH, FUEL, UH, THERE'S UM, UH, UH, OFFICE SUPPLIES. THERE ARE ALSO SOME SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE COSTS, AGAIN, NOTHING RELATED TO ANY REDUCTIONS IN SERVICE. THOSE ARE JUST SAVINGS AS PART OF, UH, THE TOWNS, NORMAL, UH, BUSINESS OPERATIONS, AND THEN CAPITAL SAVINGS OF $451,000. THIS IS A CHANGE IN THAT, UH, THAT $451,000 WAS GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND, UH, TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB. AND THAT IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE THE CASE. WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF THE BOND PROCEEDS FROM THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM. UH, IF THERE'S ANY RESIDUAL PROCEEDS FROM THOSE THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO THOSE PROJECTS, UH, BEFORE USING OPERATING FUNDS FOR THOSE, UH, ON THE AIRPORT FUND, WE HAVE SALARY SAVINGS OF ABOUT $120,000. UH, WE ALSO GOT THE TEXTILE LAND REIMBURSEMENT OF ONE POINT $3 MILLION, UH, AND THEN WE'VE ADJUSTED THE BUDGET, UM, WHICH, UH, UH, COUNCIL ADOPTED BACK, UH, WITH THE MIDYEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT, UH, TO USE WORKING CAPITAL, UH, THE PORTION FOR THE CUSTOMS FACILITY. UH, SO OVERALL, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S THAT, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE INTERFUND LOAN FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND. SO THERE'S A CHARGE THERE TO REPAY, UH, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND, UH, ON THE HOTEL FUND, AGAIN, EXPENDITURE REDUCTION, UH, JUST UNDER TWO POINT $9 MILLION, PRIMARILY RELATED TO, UH, THE CANCELLATION OF SPECIAL EVENTS. UH, THOSE GREATLY ALLEVIATE THE REVENUE LOSS FROM HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES, AND THEN ON THE UTILITY FUND, UH, SEWER TREATMENT COSTS INCREASE OF $226,000. AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE BEING OFFSET BY THE RESIDUAL, UH, 2014 SIO BOND PROCEEDS BEING ON THAT BASE. AND I, A SEWER ROUTE WITH THAT I'LL ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. COULD WE GO BACK TO THE CLIENT, THIS ONE, THIS ONE. SO IS IT A FAIR SUMMARY SINCE THAT'S THE SUMMARY SLIDE ON THE GENERAL FUND? DID THE, THE BUDGET FROM 19 FROM 2019 TO 20 IS ROUGHLY SHOWING THE SAME LEVEL OF REVENUE NOW IN THE PLANNING 21, 2021, AND ON THE AIRPORT FUND, THE SAME THING, THE OVERALL REVENUES FLAT, THE THERE'S A SLIGHT DECREASE AT 500 K RIGHT ON THE OPERATION OF THE NEW, IN A HOTEL FUND. IT'S JUST A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY THAT THAT'S NEARLY FLAT RIGHT THERE. THEY'RE BASICALLY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY CLOSE WITHIN THE, IN THE GENERAL FUND. I BELIEVE IT'S, UM, FROM THE BUDGET IT'S, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED AND, YOU KNOW, JUST ABOUT $200,000 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BUDGET AND THE PLANNING, UM, ON THE AIRPORT FUND, IT'S ABOUT $500,000. UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY THE HOTEL FUND, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, OVER ONE POINT $6 MILLION, AND THAT'S ALL PRIMARILY RELATED TO THE, UH, HOTEL TAX. THANK YOU. [00:40:04] SO LET ME ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION, STEVEN, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE WAY FOLLOW THE PEOPLE WORK IN A CONFERENCE CENTER, THOSE SALARY IS PAID OUT OF HOTEL FUND. THAT'S CORRECT. SO, SO IN OTHER WORDS, ALL SAVINGS IN THE HOTEL FUND EXPENDITURE REDUCTIONS. SO SHOULD IT BE INCLUDE ALL THOSE EMPLOYEES IN THE CONFERENCE CENTER? YES, IT DOES ANIMAL QUESTION FOR STEVEN. THANK YOU. THANKS STEPHEN. THANK YOU. SO, YOU KNOW, THE SITUATION IS NOT AS BAD AS QUITE A WAIT PREDICTED BEFORE, SO APPARENTLY, UH, QUITE HAVE A REDUCED REVENUE, BUT ALSO A LOT OF FUN. WE HAVE THE EXPENDITURES AS, AS WELL. SO, UH, SO, UH, IT DIDN'T JUST REDUCE ALL THE WAY, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S BETTER THAN AT LEAST WHAT A WAY EXPECT. NO MORE QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT. [6. Present and Discuss Public Nuisance Concerns Along the White Rock Creek Park Trail. ] ITEM NUMBER SIX, PRESENT, DISCUSS PUBLIC NUISANCE CONCERNS ALONG THE HIGH ROCK QUAKE TRAIL. THANK YOU. AMERICAN COUNCIL, PAUL SPENCER, CHIEF OF POLICE. UM, I'M JOINED TONIGHT ALSO WITH, UH, MR. SHANNON HICKS AND, UH, MS. JANET DID WELL TO HELP ME PRESENT THIS ITEM TONIGHT. LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN REAL QUICK AND WE'LL GET STARTED AUDITS ONE SECOND. WELL, LETS EVERYBODY SEE THAT. YES. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY THAT WE HAVE AS RECENT RESIDENT OBSERVATIONS OF HOMELESS PEOPLE UTILIZING THE AREA UNDER, UH, THE BELTLINE ROAD BRIDGE AND THAT'S CAUSED SOME CONCERN WITH OUR OVERALL EDISON COMMUNITY. JUST A REMINDER, THE BELTLINE ROAD BRIDGE AREA DIRECTLY UNDER, UH, THE AREA DIRECTLY UNDER THAT IS WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THIS PROHIBITS THE TOWN OF MADISON FROM FORCING OUR OWN PUBLIC NUISANCE NUISANCE ORDINANCES. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A QUICK PRESENTATION TONIGHT OVER SOME POSSIBLE CONSIDERATIONS TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND THEN GET SOME DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL . SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE INCLUDED SOME PICTURES. YOU'RE GOING TO APPRECIATE JANET. TIDWELL'S HELP WITH THIS. WE'RE SHOWING YOU TO THE 11 CHIEF, YOUR PDF IS NOT BEING SHOWN. YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHERE WE SEE YOUR EMAIL INBOX. OKAY. ONE SECOND PLACE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON. I'M SORRY. CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? I'M LOSING MY CONNECTION. WE CAN HEAR YOU ALL. WE CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I'M HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES EITHER GO QUICK, QUICK CHANGE OF OKAY. MR. PEARSON, CAN YOU SEE THAT? DOES I SEE THAT SCREEN? OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. SO WE'RE GOING TO USE ME. THIS IS NOT SHOWING UP ON THE WEBSITE. YEAH, IT TAKES TIME. [00:45:06] IS THAT TAPE DELAYED? BECAUSE THERE'S A DELAY. OKAY. OKAY. I APOLOGIZE. SO AGAIN, STARTING OVER A LITTLE BIT AGAIN, MY NAME IS PAUL SPAN, INTERIM CHIEF OF POLICE. AND WE, OUR STAFF WAS ASKED TO BRING THIS ITEM FOR WORK SESSION TONIGHT TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE SAFETY AND NUISANCE CONCERNS ALONG THE WHITE ROCK CREEK TRAIL AREA, ESPECIALLY VERY UNDER THE BELTLINE ROAD BRIDGE. AS A REMINDER THAT THE AREA DIRECTLY UNDER THAT BRIDGE IS WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS, THE CITY LIMITS. AND THAT, THAT KEEPS US FROM ENFORCING ADDISON'S OWN CODE OF ORDINANCES AND NUISANCE ORDINANCES. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, OF AN ISSUE THERE FOR US. HOWEVER, WE STILL HAVE COMPLAINTS FROM SOME RESIDENTS AND SOME CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS TONIGHT AND THEN WE'LL OFFER SOME POSSIBLE CONSIDERATIONS. IF COUNCIL WANTS US TO, TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD TO SEE IF WE CAN ALLEVIATE SOME OF IT AGAIN, THE PERCEIVED SAFETY CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY IN THE EVENING, IT'S, IT'S VERY DARK IN THAT AREA, UH, THAT THERE'S SOME TRASH, UH, SOME ENCAMPMENT ISSUES UNDER THE BRIDGE FROM, FROM, UH, PERIODIC HOMELESS, UH, USAGE OF THAT AREA. IT CAN BE UNSANITARY AND IT DOES, IT IS A NUISANCE FOR THE OVERALL, UH, OVERALL TRAIL AREA. SO OUR EFFORTS TODAY FROM OUR, FROM STAFF, UH, I HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS MANY TIMES. UH, THEY HAVE BEEN MODERATELY RESPONSIVE. UH, ACTUALLY I'VE BEEN QUITE SURPRISED. THEY'VE GOTTEN SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE AREA CLEANED UP. WE'VE HAD SOME GRAFFITI ADDRESSED ON THE BRIDGE ITSELF. UH, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH CITY OF DALLAS AND WE ARE COMPLETELY DEPENDENT ON THEM TO DO THEIR JOB AND DO IT, DO IT QUICKLY. ALSO OUR STAFF EFFORTS HAVE INCLUDED, UH, TALKING WITH METROCREST SOCIAL SERVICES, UH, THE DIRECT, UH, CEO, TRACY EUBANKS FROM METRO SOCIAL SERVICES IS AVAILABLE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE WITH THE EFFORTS FROM THE FOUR CITIES IN THE METRO CREST SERVICE AREA. AND AS FAR AS OUR HOMELESS, UH, WORK TOWARDS OUR HOMELESS, THE TOPICS WE'VE DONE WITH THEM AND THE ROUND TABLE MEETINGS, I'VE TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, GENERAL HOMELESSNESS AND JOBS AND HEALTHCARE. AGAIN, THIS IS A MUCH, MUCH LARGER, BROADER, UH, METRO CREST AREA OF DISCUSSION AND HAS NOT BEEN SPEARHEADED DIRECTLY BY ADDISON STAFF. AGAIN, OUR CURRENT LIMITATIONS, WE'VE THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY UNDER THE BELTLINE ROAD BRIDGE. UH, THE CREEK IS WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS. WE HAVE NO LEGAL JURISDICTION OR AUTHORITY TO ADDRESS THE CAMPING LETTER OR OTHER PUBLIC NUISANCE ORDINANCE CONCERNS. AND AGAIN, DALLAS HAS BEEN MODERATELY RESPONSIVE TO REMOVE TRASH AND THE ENCAMPMENTS. SO BEFORE I GET INTO THE OPTIONS, I'LL DO A QUICK PAUSE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? OKAY, WELL, AGAIN, I ASKED, I ASKED JANET TIDWELL AND SHANNON HICKS TO JOIN US TONIGHT. UH, WE WALKED THE AREA OF CONCERN SO THEY COULD GET A LOOK AT IT. WE BASICALLY HAVE THREE OPTIONS. AND NUMBER ONE, THE FIRST OPTION REALLY IS, IS TO MAKE IT A LESS DESIRABLE PLACE FOR HOMELESS PERSONS TO, TO WANT TO CAMP IN AND AROUND THE AREA. UH, THERE'S THERE'S WE COULD ADD PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING ALONG THE PATHWAY. WE COULD ACTUALLY SHINE LIGHTING INTO AND UNDER THE BRIDGE WE COULD ADD OPTICAL CAMERAS AND WE COULD ALSO FIN OUT THE VEGETATION TO REDUCE THE VISIBILITY OF THE SPACE. AND THERE'S THERE'S PROS AND CONS WITH ANY OF THESE ALTERNATIVES, THE PROS FOR THE OPTION ONE, YOU KNOW, TRAIL LIGHTING WILL INCREASE VISIBILITY AT NIGHT. THE PARK DOES CLOSE TO 11. AND SO IT IS, IT IS QUITE DARK DOWN THERE DURING THOSE, THOSE, THOSE SEVERAL HOURS JUMP UNTIL THE PARK DOES CLOSE, UH, DELIGHTING COULDN'T COULD ENCOURAGE NIKON, NIGHTTIME AND CAMPUS BY ELIMINATING THE BRIDGE UNDERNEATH AN INTERNET CASE BASED CAMERAS, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE ONE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE TRAIL AND THE END OF THE TRAIL. IT ALLOWS STAFF TO MONITOR REMOTELY, UM, THE CONS FOR THAT AGAIN, LIGHTING AND CAMERA SUBJECT FOR TAMPERED WITH IT MAY NOT FULLY ASSEMBLE IT ELIMINATE THE ISSUE AND THE LIGHTS AND CAMERAS WERE ONLY BE UNDER SMALL SECTION OF THE TRAIL, REALLY FROM THE WYNWOOD BELTLINE TRAIL, HEAD DOWN UNTIL THE CURVE WHERE IT GOES SOUTH ALONG THE WHITE ROCK CREEK. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS THING'S DOING TO ME. I APOLOGIZE. NUMBER OPTION TWO WOULD REALLY BE GOING TOWARDS A VEGETATED SCREEN. SO USING, USING NATURAL, UH, NATURAL PLANT MATERIALS. AND AGAIN, JANET CAN SPEAK TO THIS MORE THAN I CAN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO PLANT SHRUBS SCREEN AT THE [00:50:01] AREA, BASICALLY REDUCING THE VISIBILITY FROM THE TRAIL AND USING THOSE PLANTS THAT HAVE SHARP LEAVES, MAY DETER PEOPLE FROM CLIMBING THROUGH THEM, UH, FOR EAGERS AND AN ACCESS UNDER THE BRIDGE. UH, THE PROS, AGAIN, IT DOES REDUCE VISIBILITY OF THE DEBRIS THAT ACCUMULATES UNDER THE BRIDGE AND WAS SCREENED REALLY JUST SCREENED THE HOMELESS THAT DO LIVE UNDER THE BRIDGE FROM TIME TO TIME FROM THE TRAIL USERS, THE CON IT REALLY DOESN'T ADDRESS THE PERCEPTION OF SAFETY. IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T OFFER ANY ILLUMINATION. IT'S REALLY A DETERRENT, NOT THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY TO REALLY HAVE A PHYSICAL BARRIER WITH, WITH, WITH THE VEGETATIVE SCREENS. AND IT MAY REQUIRE REMOVAL OF SOME OF THE EXISTING, UH, VEGETATION TO MAKE IT EFFECTIVE. SO THAT'S OPTION NUMBER TWO, OPTION NUMBER THREE WOULD BE TO CONSTRUCT A MORE HARD PHYSICAL BARRIER FENCE. UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO COORDINATE THAT WITH DALLAS AS THAT'S THE, I THINK, HAS THE EASEMENT THERE, THE FENCE COATED CHAIN LINK FOR VISIBILITY OR EVEN A WOODEN SCREEN, UM, IT WOULD RESTRICT MOVEMENT ON THE PRO SIDE, BUT IT WOULD BE POSSIBLY ON THE PROPERTY AND CITY OF DALLAS. THERE'S A LOT OF CONS WITH THIS ONE, REALLY A SOLID FENCE CREATES MORE OF A SECLUDED SPACE. UM, IT WOULD BE A CONSTANT MAINTENANCE ISSUE FOR US, WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, STAFF TIME AND COSTS. UM, THERE WOULD BE, UH, FLOOD CONCERNS BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING A HARD STRUCTURE THERE THAT COULD, THAT COULD IMPEDE THE FLOODPLAIN AND THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE, THERE'LL BE ONGOING RECURRING COSTS FOR BUDGET REPAIR MAINTENANCE OF THE FENCE. THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE OUR BRIEF BRIEF SLIDES. TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AGAIN, AS A REMINDER, I'VE GOT JANET, I'VE GOT JANET HERE WITH US, AS WELL AS MR. EUBANKS FROM METROCREST SOCIAL SERVICES. ANY QUESTIONS? HEY CHIEF, THIS IS MARLYNN. YES, SIR. I'M, I'M OUT ON THAT, THAT, UH, THAT TRAIL A LOT. AND UM, EVERY TIME I'M OUT THERE AND PICKING UP TRASH, UM, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THOSE PICTURES IN THE PRESENTATION ARE NICE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE REPRESENTATIVE OF, OF REALITY, UM, OF NOT AT LEAST NOT WHAT I SEE WHEN I'M OUT THERE. UM, AND THAT'S A REALLY, REALLY CLEAN TRAIL, UM, OTHER THAN, OTHER THAN AROUND THE BRIDGE AND ON BELTLINE AROUND THE BELTLINE AREA. UM, SO WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SEEING IS A LOT OF TRASH. I'M SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF GRAFFITI ON THAT BRIDGE AND, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IF PEOPLE ARE LIVING UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE, IT'S, IT GETS UNSANITARY WITHOUT RESTROOMS. UM, SO ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD, AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR TAKE ON IT IS, IS, UM, SOME TYPE OF, OF ROD IRON FENCE TO BLOCK OUT THE ADDISON SIDE OF THE BRIDGE. UM, HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BIT PRETTIER THAN THE CHAIN LINK FENCE ON THE DALLAS SIDE, YOU CAN BEGIN ON WHETHER YOU THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OR ANY THOUGHTS YOU MIGHT HAVE ALONG THOSE LINES. I THINK THE CONCERN FROM BOTH JANET AND SHANNON WERE THE, IF WE DO A HARD FENCING STRUCTURE, THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME, SOME CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT THE FLOODPLAIN RESTRICTIONS. AND ALSO AGAIN, ON-CALL ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR. IT WOULD, IT WOULD, IT WOULD POSSIBLY RESTRICT MOVEMENT, BUT IF IT'S JUST A BROAD HONOR CHAIN LINK FENCE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE CAN EASILY JUMP BACK TO BE HONEST. SO YEAH. HOW WOULD IT AFFECT IT ON THE FLOOD PLAIN? I MAY HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO MR. HICKS. HEY MARLIN. YES, SIR. YEAH, THIS IS TOM, SO THAT I THINK THAT'S GOTTA TO BE PROBLEMATIC IN THE FLOOD PLAIN ONLY BECAUSE WHEN THAT THING OVERFLOWS, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE ALL KINDS OF DEBRIS THAT RUNS IT, THAT RUNS DOWN THERE. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IF YOU HAD A OFFENSIVE DOWN THAT AREA, WHEN IT FLOODS, I EVENTUALLY KNOCKED OUT EVERY TIME I JUST IT'S JUST TOO MUCH WATER IS TOO FORCEFUL. EVEN THE WATER GOES THROUGH IT. IT'S ALL THE DEBRIS AND THE BIG BRANCHES THAT ARE COMING DOWN THERE. SO I DON'T THAT'S, I THINK THEIR CONCERN, I DON'T, I'M NOT SEEING THAT ON THE OTHER FENCE EVENING COUNTY, SHANNON HICKS, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING THAT FENCE WOULD BE SO CLOSE TO WHITE ROCK CREEK. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT AREA DOES FILL UP WITH A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WATER. AND WHEN WE DO GET A HEAVY RAIN AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, CORRECT, WE THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A CONCERN IS WHEN THOSE FLOOD WATERS RECEDE, ALL THAT DEBRIS THAT WOULD BE CAUGHT ON THE BACKSIDE, WOULDN'T END UP JUST TEARING UP THE FENCE, PULLING IT THROUGH. SO THAT WOULD BE OUR MAIN CONCERN WITH PUTTING ANY, ANY TYPE OF SOLID FENCE IN THAT AREA. HEY, SHANNON, THIS IS MARLON. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE, UH, SOME TYPE OF SOLID WOOD FENCE? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE, UH, A ROD IRON TYPE FENCE OR CHAIN CHAIN FENCE, EITHER ONE, A CHAIN OR ROD IRON, THE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS THAT WE GET COULD GET CAUGHT BACK THERE WITH LIMBS [00:55:01] AND LOGS RESTRICTING THE FLOW. WHEN IT STARTING TO FLOW BACK OUT, YOU'LL END UP REPLACING THAT FENCE. IT'LL TEAR IT DOWN. IT'S IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE CREEK IN THE FLOODS. HEY, I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE. I JUST, I'M NOT SEEING WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING WITH THE OTHER, UM, THE CHAIN LINK FENCE. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CHANNELING FENCE THAT SHOWN IN THE, WHAT WAS IT A SCREEN NUMBER TWO OF THE PRESENTATION ON THE OTHER SIDE, THIS IS ON THE ADDISON SIDE OF THE, OF THE BELTLINE BRIDGE. AND IF WE COULD, UH, OH YEAH, ON THE, ON THE PICTURE TO THE RIGHT, YOU'RE KIND OF UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE. AND IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE BACKGROUND, YOU HAVE TO, YOU REALLY HAVE TO ZOOM IN ON THE PICTURE. UM, THERE IS A CHAIN LINK FENCE OVER THERE THAT, THAT, UM, PREVENTS IT'S, UM, IT'S A BARRIER BETWEEN THE, I THINK IT'S PRESTONWOOD GOLF GOLF COURSE. UM, YEAH, IT'S A BARRIER BETWEEN, UM, THE DALLAS SIDE OF THE BRIDGE. UM, AND UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT SAFETY, A COUPLE OF THE COMMENTS THAT I RECEIVED. AND BY THE WAY, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED A LOT, BUT A COUPLE OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT SAFETY WERE RELATED TO SOMEONE BEING OUT OF SIGHT, YOU KNOW, BACK BEHIND THE BUSHES AND SO ON. AND SO WHEN I SORT OF TESTED THIS AND A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, THERE WAS NOT A POSITIVE FEELING ABOUT CREATING A GREATER VISUAL BARRIER FOR SOMEONE TO HIDE BEHIND, BUT THERE WAS A POSITIVE FEELING ABOUT ADDING LIGHTING AND POTENTIALLY A CAMERA. SO I'D APPRECIATE CHIEF OR SOMEONE'S COMMENTS MORE ON THOSE ASPECTS. AND HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD IMPACT SAFETY OR A FEELING OF SAFETY IN THAT AREA? YES, SIR. WELL, I THINK ANYTIME YOU ADD LIGHTING, YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE PERCEPTION OF SAFETY. UH, I WILL TELL YOU, WE, WE, THERE ARE CRIME ANALYSIS, UH, FOLKS, THEY RAN THE NUMBERS, TRYING TO ISOLATE THAT TRAIL, UH, LIKE A CALL FOR SERVICE OR AN OFFENSE, A NUMBER OF OFFENSES WE'VE HAD. AND FROM JUNE OF 2018 TO JUNE OF 2020, WE'VE HAD FOUR BASICALLY REPORTS OF EITHER SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY. I THINK ONE WAS A MARIJUANA BURNING MARIJUANA SMELL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO YES, THERE IS A PERCEPTION OF SAFETY, BUT OUR NUMBERS DON'T CLEARLY CLEARLY CLEARLY POINT TO ANY LONGTERM TRENDS OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY ON THAT TRAIL. SO AGAIN, IT'S A PERCEPTION ISSUE. I THINK ADDING CAMERAS, ADDING TRAIL LIGHTING IS GOING TO HELP. BUT AGAIN, RIGHT NOW THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE JUST ALONG THAT ONE SECTION BY THE BRIDGE. AND WE WOULDN'T, WE COULD BASED ON COUNCIL DIRECTION, BUT THERE'S THIS, THIS PROPOSAL OF OPTION ONE ONLY, ONLY REALLY TALKS ABOUT RIGHT THERE FROM THE TRAILHEAD AT WYNNEWOOD ROAD DOWN TO OUR CURVES AND GOES SOUTH TOWARDS THE FIRST ROD IRON BRIDGE IS OUR CAMERA SYSTEM EXPANDABLE TO WHERE IT COULD HANDLE SYSTEM THAT'S IN PLACE COULD HANDLE ADDITIONAL. RIGHT, GOOD. BUT AS COUNCIL REMEMBERS, WHEN WE DID THE PILOT PROJECT PRESENTATION BACK IN APRIL OF 2019, WE, WE, WE EXPLORED AND GOT BIDS TO PULL POWER AND FIBER OPTIC CABLE, THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THAT TRAIL. AND IT WAS COST PROHIBITIVE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RUNNING UP AGAINST ON THAT TRAIL. THERE WAS NO UTILITIES. AND SO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT, BUT WE'VE GOT TO PULL UTILITIES DOWN THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THAT TRAIL. AND IT WAS I THINK, $900,000 TO DO THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PILOT PROJECT. THANKS FOR REMINDING ME. YES, SIR. NO, I HAVE A THOUGHT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DURABLE OR NOT. SINCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EAST WEST IS A BRIDGE AND THEN IF WE'D BE ON SOME KIND OF FENCE, NOT SOLID, JUST A FENCE, SOME BARRIERS. AND THEN ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE, UH, PIRATE ON THIS QUIET ROCK, YOU WANT TO SAY LAKE OR PASSOVER, BUT ON THIS WEST SIDE. SO I NEED TO GO VERY FISCALLY HOW YOU TECHNICALLY DO THAT, BUT I THINK POSSIBLY TO CAN WORK. THE OTHER THING IS, MMM. I REMEMBER WHY BACK WE TALK WITH, UH, UM, I THINK, UH, HUDSON NEMO WITH THE COUNCIL WOMAN, UH, ONCE WAS A STATE REPRESENTATIVE. ALRIGHT, CAN YOU REMIND [01:00:01] ME LINDA? YEAH. TALK WITH THE LINDA COOPER. AWHILE BACK TRYING TO ANNEX THE BELLAGIO FOUNTAIN HALLWAY ALL THE WAY TO THE BRIDGE SIDE. THERE'S A WAY DID A LOT OF LANDSCAPE MIX AND WE HAVE THE LOCAL OF WOMEN. WE MEN TEND THE LANDSCAPE AND THEN THE, WE TRIED TO ANNEX THAT AREA. SO WE CAN'T HAVE A POLICING AND THEN IT CAN, UH, HELP, NOT JUST THE NUISANCE LIKE THAT, BUT ALSO THE PAD OF HANDLER, YOU KNOW, ALONG THAT AREA. YOU KNOW, YOU REMEMBER WHEN YOU EVER USED TO SEE PANHANDLERS, IT'S ALWAYS ON THE EAST SIDE OF BILL AND TOW IS RIGHT. WE ANNEX THIS BELL LINE, THEN WE CAN HAVE POLICING, RIGHT. SO YOU KNOW WHY YOU CAN HAVE, UH, A PATROL AND ALSO HAVE A BETTER IMAGE OR CITY BECAUSE PEOPLE ENTER THAT AREA. THEY ALWAYS THINK ADDISON ALREADY. SO, UH, APPARENTLY THIS SECTION BELONGS TO LEE KLEINMAN AND THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CLIMATE IS TRICKY. SO, UH, WE MAY APPROACH HIM IN A CEO. WHAT DO WE CAN DO TO RESOLVE THIS USES, SORRY, ME, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE SHOULD, COULD EXPLORE ANNEX IN PART OF THAT? THE CITY OF DALLAS, UH, THEY , YOU KNOW, UH, THE POLICING, RIGHT? WHY CAN I HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT OR IF THEY ALLOW US TO HAVE THAT SECTION AS ONE WAY, OR THEY ALLOW US TO HAVE POLICING, RIGHT? BECAUSE A LOT OF ACCIDENT OCCURRED OVER THERE. THEN YOU'RE WAITING FOR LIKE 30, 40 MINUTES FOR THE DALLAS POLICE TO SHOW UP. THEN THE POLICE SHOW UP OR THE WAIT FROM THE CAMPBELL AND THE HILLCREST, UH, EAST SUB SUB STATION. SO, UH, THAT'S JUST GIVE YOU SOME THOUGHT THAT'S MAYBE ONE WAY WE CAN PROVE NOT JUST PRODUCING LIGHT, BUT ALSO THE PUBLIC IMAGE BENDING AROUND THE CORNER. THEY, EVERYBODY SAW THAT SCENE ADDISON, HEY, I'VE GOT A, A THOUGHT ABOUT THE OPTICAL CAMERA. I'M NOT, I'M NOT PROPOSING THIS, BUT EVEN IF WE HAD AN OPTICAL CAMERA AND WE SAW, UM, SOMEONE UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE DOING WHATEVER WITH IT NOT BEING ON ADDISON LAND, WHAT, WHAT WOULD WE DO TEND TO ANYTHING BECAUSE NOW THAT YOU CAN ADD SOME TERRITORY. YEAH. THAT'S UM, UM, NOT IN FAVOR OF AN OPTICAL CAMERA DOWN THERE ON PROPERTY. THAT'S NOT OURS PURPOSE OF THE OPTICAL CAMERA. THE REASON WE PROPOSE THAT BY THE WAY, JANET HAD WELL DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, UM, IS I'VE WORKED WITH, UM, THE KATY TRAIL. AND THERE'S A HUGE POPULATION THAT WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE LEARNED IS PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN THOSE AREAS. THEY'RE NOT PRIVACY. AND THE OPTICAL CAMERA WOULDN'T BE THERE NECESSARILY TO ENFORCE, BUT IT WOULD BE AN ELEMENT THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY PRIVACY. SO WE COULD PUT OPTICAL CAMERA DOWN THERE. IT WOULD SERVE THAT SAME PURPOSE. I TAUGHT, I THINK FROM THE OPTICAL CAMERA PERSPECTIVE, THE ONES THAT WE INSTALLED AT THE BEGINNING AND END OF THE WHITE ROCK CREEK TRAIL, AS PART OF OUR PILOT PROJECT, THERE, THERE ARE THREE, THERE ARE THREE 60, A MOVABLE CAMERA THAT HAS A PAN TILT, ZOOM CAPABILITIES. AND IF WE HAD A CAMERA IN THAT CORNER, AGAIN, WE COULD USE IT FOR SITUATION AWARENESS. WE COULD USE IT TO MONITOR THE, THE, THE, UH, THE TRAIL, EVEN, EVEN IN LOW LIGHT CONDITIONS. AGAIN, TRYING TO INCREASE THE PERCEPTION OF SAFETY. IT IS A QUESTION THAT WOULD THAT HELP ALONG WITH LIGHTING. WOULD IT HELP FOR PEOPLE TO WALK DOWN THE TRAIL AND FEEL MORE SAFE IF THEY KNEW THAT PUBLIC SAFETY AND, AND OTHER TOWN STAFF HAD ACCESS TO THOSE CAMERA VIEWS? I, I DON'T KNOW. A LOT OF THAT IS SUBJECTIVE A PERSON. SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR, FOR SOME OPTIONS TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL THAT WE CAN DO TO INCREASE THAT PERCEPTION OF SAFETY. YEAH. I WANT TO ADD THAT I'M NOT HEARING AN OUTCRY OF PUBLIC SAFETY. I'M NOT SAYING THAT SOMEBODY HASN'T BROUGHT IT UP, I'M JUST HAVE YET TO HEAR THAT ONE. [01:05:01] DO WE STILL HAVE HE, YEAH, I'M HERE. AND, UM, SO A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO, A NUMBER OF US ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE CLEANUP OF THAT PARK AND THAT AREA IN PARTICULAR WAS A DISASTER. AND SO IT'S, IT, IT OCCURS TO ME THAT THAT IS A, A WONDERFUL ASSET OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON THAT, THAT PARK, THAT WHITEWASH TRAIL, RIGHT, RIGHT. WHITE CREEK TRAIL. AND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO TRY TO PROTECT OUR ASSET. AND SO THAT WAS THE REASON THAT MARLON AND I ASKED TO HAVE THIS PUT ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS TO PROTECT OUR ASSETS. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT THESE ARE SOME REASONABLE OPTIONS. I I'M INTRIGUED BY OPTION ONE. I THINK THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF OPTION TWO THAT MIGHT MAKE SOME SENSE, UH, CHINESE HAWTHORNS, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. UM, I, YOU KNOW, MAYBE STRATEGICALLY PLACE, I WORRY ABOUT THE, THE RAVAGING FLOOD WATERS IN, UM, UH, THAT COME DOWN THAT NATURAL FLOOD CORRIDOR, DAMAGING THOSE AS WELL AS DAMAGING ANY KIND OF PERMANENT STRUCTURE. SO, I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE OUR HORTICULTURISTS AND PEOPLE ADVISE US ON THAT, BUT I THOUGHT THOSE MIGHT BE SOME TOOLS. I CERTAINLY THINK THE LIGHTING IS APPROPRIATE. I THINK THE OPTICAL CAMERA IS APPROPRIATE. IT IS A PERCEPTION OF, OF SAFETY. UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY READ A LETTER, READ A LETTER TO US LATER ON TONIGHT, TONIGHT'S MEETING THAT THERE THERE'S, THERE, THERE'S A PERCEPTION OF A BIT PROBLEM OVER THERE, AND THIS IS CONTRIBUTING TO IT. AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE NUMBERS DON'T SUPPORT IT. I GET THAT, BUT IT, BUT IT'S REALLY MAKING THAT BEAUTIFUL AREA THOUGH, REALLY CRUMMY AND THAT'S SUSTAINABLE AND THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. AND SO, SO, YOU KNOW, I, I, TO, TO MOVE FORWARD AND, AND, AND, AND NOT JUST, I MEAN, THE ONLY THING WE CAN'T DO IS NOTHING IN MY VIEW. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT, I, I WALK THEM AND I WANT TO JUST, UH, ELICIT THIS CONVERSATION AMONGST MY COLLEAGUES AND, AND HEAR WHAT, UH, WHAT STAFF HAD HAD THROWN OUT. AND SO LET'S HAVE THAT GOOD. LET'S HAVE THAT DISCUSSION CHIEF. THIS IS GQ THAT'S. SIR. CAN YOU, UH, CAN YOU GIVE US A UNDERSTANDING OF A NUMBER OF PEOPLE YOU BELIEVE THAT MIGHT BE IN THIS ENCAMPMENT IS VERY, UH, INTERMITTENT RIGHT NOW. AND THE LAST FEW TIMES I'VE WALKED THE TRAIL AREA. WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANYBODY IN THERE OTHER THAN JUST SOME GENERAL TRASH. WE DIDN'T SEE THE LARGE ENCAMPMENT THAT WE SAW FROM A YEAR OR SO AGO. UH, WE, WE TALKED TO, I ASKED THIS, UH, DALLAS NORTH CENTRAL, THE CHIEF OF THEIR RICK WATSON WORK WITH THEIR CITY. WE GOT THAT CLEANED UP FROM THE BED TENTS AND GRILLS AND ALL SORTS OF STUFF UNDER THAT BRIDGE. SO DALLAS WILL WORK WITH US. CONSISTENCY FROM CITY OF DALLAS IS SOMETIMES HARD. UM, BUT AGAIN, THEY'VE BEEN MINE. I USE THE TERM MODERATELY RESPONSIVE. THEY, THEY, THEY'VE NOT BEEN RIGHT ON TOP OF IT EVERY FIVE, EVERY TIME WE CALL, BUT OVER TIME, WE USUALLY CAN GET IT DONE. CHIEF GABRIEL, THE ANSWER IS WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S ONLY ONE PERSON. YEAH. ONE PERSON ENCAMPMENT. YES. THEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR JANET. I'M LOOKING AT THESE OPTIONS AND I'M WONDERING IF ANY OF IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO SAY IT, BUT HAVE YOU CONSIDERED, HAVE WE CONSIDERED, UH, CHANGING THE, THE, UH, THE GROUND THERE, UH, PERHAPS WITH SOME RIP RAP THAT WOULD MAKE IT UNSUITABLE TO EVEN WALK ACROSS? IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CONSIDERED? UM, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE THE DETERRENT WE WOULD WANT IT TO BE. WE ACTUALLY ARE, THE BRANCH HAS SET UP AND STUFF DOWN IN THE CREEK. UM, AND THAT'S BIG BOULDERS AND RIP RAP, AND THEY'RE MANEUVERING THAT FINE. SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE THE DETERRENT, UM, THAT WE WOULD WANT IT TO BE. PLUS IT'S UGLY. OH, THE RIP RAP. YES. THE RIP RAP. UH, WHO'S GOING TO SEE IT. PEOPLE, [01:10:01] ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AS AN INSERT IT UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE, IT WOULD BE, UH, I'M GOING TO LET JANA DESCRIBE THAT WHAT THE RIP RAP IS. WELL, NO, NO. AND I'M NOT ASKING IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A D YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE CAN USE THE RIP RAP BETWEEN THE TRAIL AND THE, AND THE, THE BRIDGE, THE DOUBT, THE BELTLINE BRIDGE? NO, ACTUALLY UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE, IT'S THAT FLAT SURFACE THAT'S SEEMS TO BE ATTRACTIVE. WE, UH, AS PAUL MENTIONED, WE WERE OUT THERE, UM, DOING THE AREA CLEAN UP AND YOU COULD SEE THAT IT DOES, UH, IT'S LEVEL. UH, THERE'S AN, OF COURSE IT'S UNDERNEATH, UH, PROTECTED AND SECLUDED. BUT IF YOU, IF THE SURFACE WAS TO BE UNMANAGEABLE TO EVEN A WALK OVER, WHICH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE, SPECIFICALLY UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE PROPERTY, THAT'S DALLAS PROPERTY. SO HE'S NOT, WE'VE NOT CONSIDERED DOING ANYTHING UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE. UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY. WELL THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD SEEM TO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A FENCE THAT WOULD GET KNOCKED. THE RIP RAP WOULD PROBABLY STAY THERE MUCH LONGER. OF COURSE, WE'D HAVE TO GET PERMISSION. NOW HAVE THAT PLACED. NOW I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE IT EVERY, EVERY STORM. I WAS SUGGESTED WITH PUTTING SOME FENCE ON A LONG ALL PROPERTY WITH DALLAS, AND THEN YOU PUT SOME LIGHTS ON THERE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS VIDEO CAMERA, THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. AND THEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE SOME, UH, DIVIDING, DIVIDING, UH, PROTECTION, AND THEN ON ALL SIDE WITH THEM. AND THEN WAS IT LIGHTS PROBABLY IS A BETTER SOLUTION. SO YOU CANNOT TOUCH OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY. AND, WELL, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A MAINTENANCE ISSUE WITH A BRIDGE THAT'S GOING TO GET WALL OR A FENCE THAT MAY GET WASHED OUT. I LIKE THE IDEA OF GQ PERSONALLY, CAUSE I THINK IT'S, I THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD DETERRENT. AND THE OTHER POINT OF WHERE THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO SHELTER IS WAY AT THE VERY TOP. YOU COULD PROBABLY CLOSE IN A FENCE AT THE VERY TOP UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE, AND THEN DO SOME KIND OF HEAVY RIP RAP GOING DOWN BETWEEN THAT FENCE, BECAUSE IT WILL BE PRETTY MUCH UP OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN AND RUNNING WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE WATER THERE. IF YOU KIND OF BOX THAT IN, OF COURSE, WE'D HAVE TO GET, WE'D HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT IF THEY HAD BEEN FAIRLY RESPONSIVE OR SOMEWHAT RESPONSIVE, AS CHIEF SAID, THEN MAYBE WE CAN WORK A DEAL WITH THEM. I KNOW IT'S PUTTING OUR RESOURCES IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY, BUT IT MIGHT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. SO ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT, UM, IS RAP IS A BUNCH OF BOULDERS TEAM TOGETHER. AND IF THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE VERY LARGE, SO SOMEBODY COULD MOVE THEM WHERE THEY WOULD EITHER NEED TO BE IN PLACE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SMOOTH SURFACE. SO WHEN WE HAVE FLOODING THAT OCCURS QUITE OFTEN IN THAT AREA FROM RAIN, THE WATER RISES AND THEN ALL THE DEBRIS THAT'S IN THE WATER SETTLES OUT ON THE GROUND AS IT RECEDES. AND I THINK THAT THAT AREA WOULD BECOME KIND OF A COLLECTION POINT. THE RIP WRECK WOULD HOLD ON TO THINGS BETTER. IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE CREEK, THERE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT. UM, SO I THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE AN AESTHETIC. WE, WE WOULD BE PERHAPS FIXING ONE PROBLEM AND CREATING ANOTHER, UM, I, FOR, FOR US, ONE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PLACING LARGE BOULDERS UNDER THAT BRIDGE IS WE WOULDN'T BE DISPLACING PART OF THE FLOOD ZONE. SO WE'D HAVE TO MITIGATE THAT VOLUME SOMEWHERE ELSE. UM, EVERYTHING ELSE BUSHES OVER WOULD BE SMALL IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING, YOU KNOW, VERY LARGE BOULDERS DOWN THERE, SO THEY COULDN'T BUILD AN ENCAMPMENT, WE WOULD HAVE TO MITIGATE THAT VOLUME SOMEWHERE ELSE. I'D BE INTERESTED IN A COST ESTIMATE FOR LIGHTING AND OPTICAL CAMERAS, YOU KNOW, AND I WOULD TOO, I THINK IT'S, IF NOTHING ELSE, IT GIVES THE POLICE A SET OF EYES DOWN THERE. AND IF, IF SOME MISCHIEF HAPPENS OR SOME ROBBERY HAPPENS OR BURGLARY OR BREAK IN OR ANYTHING SUCH AS THAT IN, IN THAT, IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, THEN THAT IS CLEARLY AN INVESTIGATIVE TOOL. WAS IT THE, UH, [01:15:01] THE GUY UNDER THE BRIDGE? WAS THERE ANY GUY UNDER THE BRIDGE AT THE TIME THAT, THAT WHATEVER THE MISCHIEF IS THAT, THAT, UH, OUR, OUR RESIDENTS SUFFERED YOU HAPPEN TO LIVE IN THE AREA? UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO, TO FURTHER THEIR INVESTIGATIVE TOOLS. SO I THINK THAT THERE'S, I THINK THAT'S THE EASIEST, I THAT'S THE LOWEST HANGING FRUIT. THE, THE, THE MORE TENUOUS STUFF IN MY MIND IS, IS TRYING TO DO ANY KIND OF SCREENING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT IT IS A FLOOD PLAIN. AND THE WORST THING WE CAN DO IS TO IMPEDE WATER GOING THROUGH THERE. UM, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A LOSING PROPOSITION. SO I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO LOOK INTO THE, THE, THE LIGHTING AND THE, AND THE LIMITED SCOPE OF, OF, UH, OF, UH, UH, OPTICAL CAMERAS AND ET CETERA, TO, TO LOOK INTO THAT. DO WE REALLY WANT TO ELIMINATE AT NIGHT AN AREA THAT'S COLLECTING TRASH AND GRAFFITI, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT, KEEP IT, KEEP IT WELL, KEEPING OUR PARKS CLEAN IS ONE QUESTION. OKAY. AND, AND IF, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT RESOURCES TO, TO, TO KEEP OUR PARK CLEAN, THEN WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. BUT WE HAVE A SAFETY ISSUE TOO, OR AS THE CHEAPEST DESCRIBING ANY PERCEPTION OF SAFETY. SO THAT, THAT, THAT CLEARLY DOES ADDRESS SAFETY ISSUES THERE, CLEARLY IT DOES, AND THE PERCEPTION OF SAFETY. SO IF, IF, IF WE NEED TO PICK UP MORE TRASH OUT MORE OFTEN THAN, OKAY, WELL, WE'LL NEED THEM TO CONTEMPLATE THEM A BUDGET PROCESS. MY IMAGE OF LIGHT UNDER THE BRIDGE, MY IMAGE OF LIGHTING WAS ALONG THE TRAIL, ALL FANCY OUTSIDE, UH, BETWEEN THE DIVIDING LINE OF ALL THE, THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE ADDISON, AND THEN SOMETHING CAN BE DONE THERE. THEN WE HAVE SOME LIGHTING AND THE CAMERA, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE BOTH WILL BE MUCH BETTER IN A SAFER, SO I WOULD SUGGEST IF YOU ARE GREAT, JUST LEAVE TO THE STAFF TO WORK DETAIL AND, UH, DO SOME, I ASKED HIM, INSTEAD OF HERE WITH, YOU KNOW, TALKING FOR 30 MINUTES, IT WILL HAVE A CONCRETE. YEAH, YEAH. I'M AN, I LIKE OPTION ONE. I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE TEXTURE AROUND THAT. SO, AND ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS, WE DON'T HAVE, WELL, WE HAVE, WELL, LET'S, LET'S HAVE A CONCERN. SO HERE I COULD SUPPORT OPTION ONE. SO WE NEED TO GET, WE NEED TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION HERE. I'M SUPPORTING AN, UH, NOT A SOLID FENCE, BUT A, A ROD IRON FENCE THAT WOULD ALLOW TRASH AND WATER TO FLOW THROUGH IT, BUT NOT OFFENSE AT THIS POINT THAT I'M THERE AS WELL. IF YOU THINK A LIGHT MORE LIGHTS AND THE VIDEO CAMERA CAN RESOLVE THE USE FOR IT, WHY DON'T WE TRY OPTION ONE FIRST? AND THEN I JUST FOUND SOMETHING ALSO REGARDING THE RIP RAP THAT I WANT TO DO. I WANT TO SHARE A CASE, YOU KNOW, OPTION ONE, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE POSSIBLE OPTION RIGHT NOW. I THINK, UM, SO I AGREE WAS TRY OPTION ONE AND WE STILL CONTINUE TO HAVE A PROBLEM. THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS I WANT TO SEND YOU JANA ON WHAT TO DO, OR THE RIP RAP UNDER THE BRIDGE. AND YOU CAN JUST LOOK AT IT IF THAT, IF THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE FOR US. SO NUMBER ONE, MAYOR, I CAN, I, CAN I, CAN I GO ALONG WITH OPTION ONE TO HAVE STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND SEE HOW THEY CAN DEVELOP THIS? HAVE A MARLIN YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT? UH, NO, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEM, BUT, BUT WE HAVE A CONSENSUS SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. ALRIGHT. SO NOT ONLY OPTION ONE, BUT I THINK, UH, WE CAN STILL PURSUE, YOU KNOW, INTO LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH [01:20:01] ALL US. SO, UH, HAVE SOME PLACE, RIGHT? THE EAST END OF THE BRIDGE ON THE WAY TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE US SOME, UH, PLEASE THE AUTHORITY HAVE THIS COMMITTEE. WE ARE RESPECTFULLY, THERE'S TWO ISSUES WITH THAT. NUMBER ONE. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LEGAL, WE CAN ADD THE LEFT, ASK BRENDA WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN ACTUALLY THE POLICE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, EVEN WITH AN ANTELOPE AGREEMENT. NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE, WE HAVE OUR HANDS FULL TAKING CARE OF OUR OWN STUFF AND TAKE ON ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS INSIDE THE CITY OF DALLAS IS NOT GOING TO BE WITHOUT ITS, UM, BUDGETARY IMPACT. SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED. YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. BUT UH, MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT THAT SECTOR IS ADDISON, YOU KNOW, SO JUST THINK ABOUT IT. WE CAN DISCUSS THIS IN THE LATER DAY. YEAH. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE CONSENSUS. SO WE STAFF GO FOR MOVE FORWARD [7. Present and Discuss Proposed Updates to the Town's Naming and Recognition and Public Art Policies.] AND ITEM SEVEN, PRESENT DISCUSS HER PROS, UPDATES TO THE LBS, NAMING AND RECOGNITION AND PUBLIC ART POLICIES FAIR IN COUNCIL, JANET TID, WELL DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN WITH YOU. SO BEAR WITH ME FOR JUST A MOMENT PRESENTATION. EVERYBODY SEE THE PRESENTATION THAT'S YES. YES. OKAY. UM, THE SEASON MEANS STAFF IS REVIEWING A REVIEW OF THE NAMING AND RECOGNITION POLICY, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN NOVEMBER OF 2017 AND THE ART POLICY, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN MAY, 2016, THE NAMING AND RECOGNITION POLICY ADDRESSES THE NAMING OR RENAMING OF STRUCTURES, PARKS, TRAILS, AND OTHER TOWN OWNED FACILITIES AND THE PUBLIC ART POLICY REGARDING CONTRIBUTIONS MADE ON BEHALF OF THE ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION TO THE TOWN TO INSTALL PUBLIC ART. UM, TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, UM, ON THESE POLICIES, THE NAMING OF PARKS, TRAILS AND STRUCTURES AND FACILITIES, UM, THE ORIGINAL POLICY WAS ADOPTED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2007. SEVERAL CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO IT WITH THE LAST AMENDMENT. UM, ACTUALLY I THINK IT WAS A REPEAL OF THE POLICY AND ADOPTION OF A NEW ONE. UM, THAT RECENTLY OCCURRED IN 2017 AND THE PUBLIC ART POLICY WAS ADOPTED IN MAY OF 2016. WE ALSO HAVE FEW OTHER POLICIES THAT TOWN STAFF RELIES ON, UM, THAT ARE VERY SPECIFIC TO FACILITIES SUCH AS SPRAWL DOG PARK, AND THEN THE THEATER, UM, THE NAMING POLICY ASSOCIATED WITH THE THEATER. THE REASON THAT WE ARE ASKING COUNCIL TO REVIEW THE CURRENT NAMING POLICY IS THAT ALTHOUGH THE CURRENT POLICY GIVES STRONG GUIDELINES FOR NAMING OF A FACILITY TO RECOGNIZE A CONTRIBUTION, IT DOES NEED TO INCLUDE MORE DIRECTION REGARDING THE FOLLOWING POINTS. THERE'S A LACK OF CLARITY. LET ME SEE. OKAY. CAN READ A LITTLE BETTER. UM, THERE'S A LACK OF CLARITY REGARDING ACCEPTANCE OF RECOGNITION OF SMALLER NATIONS MADE THAT ARE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH NAMING THE ABOVE FACILITY. SO IF A GROUP WAS GOING TO, UM, DONATE A DRINKING FOUNTAIN TO A PARK, UM, THE RECOGNITION OF THAT DONATION IS NOT COVERED IN THE CURRENT POLICY. UM, IT DOES NOT. THE CURRENT POLICY DOES NOT ALIGN AND SUPPORT CURRENT FUNDRAISING METHODS THAT ARE IMPLEMENTED BY NONPROFIT GROUPS, SUCH AS THE ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION AND THE LEGACY FOUNDATION THAT SOLICIT FUNDS ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN. UM, THE POLICY DOES NOT ADDRESS HOW THE NAMING OF A PARK AFTER AN INDIVIDUAL IS RECOGNIZED OR SIGNIFICANT SERVICE, UM, IS RECOGNIZED. UM, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE STANDARDS BEING IMPLEMENTED CURRENTLY, AND THEN THE POLICY NEEDS MORE DETAIL IN DEFINING THE PROCESS FOR NAMING AND RENAMING FACILITIES. BECAUSE IT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE POLICY SHOULD REFLECT THE FOLLOWING ELEMENTS. IT SHOULD ESTABLISH UNIFORM GUIDELINES AND PROCEDURES FOR THE NAMING OR RENAMING OF PARKS, TRAILS, AND TOWN STRUCTURES WITHIN ASIN. AND THE CURRENT POLICY DOES THAT. UM, IT SHOULD EXCLUDE THE NAMING OF PUBLIC ART FROM COMPLYING WITH THE NAMING CRITERIA, [01:25:01] UM, BECAUSE AN ARTIST IS RESPONSIBLE FOR NAMING THEIR ARTWORK. UM, IT SHOULD SET GUIDELINES FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF CONTRIBUTIONS, NOT ASSOCIATED WITH NAMING. IT SHOULD SET GUIDELINES FOR HOW FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS ARE RECOGNIZED, BOTH LARGE AND SMALL, AND IT SHOULD IDENTIFY A PROCESS, UM, TO BE UTILIZED BY STAFF TO IMPLEMENT THE POLICY. UM, SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THE PROPOSED POLICY IS THAT WE REWORD THE PURPOSE, UM, WHICH IS THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THE POLICY TO WHAT STATED HERE IN BLUE TO ESTABLISH UNIFORM GUIDELINES FOR THE NAMING OR RENAMING OF STRUCTURED PARKS, TRAILS, AND TOWN FACILITIES. THE POLICY WILL ALSO SET GUIDELINES FOR THE ACCEPTANCE AND RECOGNITION OF CONTRIBUTIONS, INCLUDING THOSE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH NAOMI, THIS POLICY, THE NAMING OF PUBLIC ART FROM THE NAMING CRITERIA SECTION, BUT ALLOWS FOR RECOGNITION OF DONATIONS OF ARTWORK. UM, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE GRAY OR THE BLACK IS THE, UM, THE CURRENT POLICY. SO YOU CAN COMPARE THOSE SIDE BY SIDE, RIGHT? THE PROPOSED POLICY ALSO REORGANIZES, UM, IT TAKES THE CURRENT POLICY AND THE CURRENT POLICY SEEMED TO JUMP AROUND. IT MADE IT SOME POINTS THAT, UM, PERHAPS WERE RELATED TO GUIDELINES, BUT THEY WERE LOCATED IN SEVERAL LOCATIONS. SO WE'VE JUST KIND OF REORGANIZED EVERYTHING, UM, WHERE IT'S MORE STRUCTURED AND IT'S EASY FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S USING THE POLICY TO FIND THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. THEN I WILL WALK YOU STEP BY STEP THROUGH THE CHANGES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS. UM, THE FIRST SECTION IS NAMING CRITERIA AND THIS WAS TAKEN FROM THE EXISTING POLICY. IT DOES GIVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, SUBMIT ADDITIONAL DESCRIPTORS. SO IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT STRUCTURES, PARKS, TRAILS, AND OTHER TOWN OWNED FACILITIES CAN UTILIZE PREDOMINANT CHARACTERISTICS RELATED TO THE TOWNS, NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, PHYSICAL FEATURES, HISTORY LISTED BELOW. SO ITEM ONE THROUGH SEVEN ARE THE CA THE AVENUES THAT WE COULD USE IN ORDER TO NAME A TOWN FACILITY, A TOWN IT COULD BE NAMED AFTER HYDROLOGICAL FEATURES, NATURAL FEATURES, MANMADE FEATURES, SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL EVENTS. IT COULD BE NAMED AFTER A COMMUNITY SPONSORED NAME. UM, IT COULD BE NAMED AFTER AN INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS MADE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO THE TOWN BY MEETING THE CRITERIA THAT WAS DEFINED IN THE PREVIOUS POLICY. AND THEN PUBLIC ART WOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM THE NAMING GUIDELINES. AND THEN THE NAMING GUIDELINES, UM, ALSO GOES ON TO STAY AT THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF PARKS AND FACILITIES, MAKE HEARING NAMES THAT DIFFER FROM THAT OF THE OVERALL PARK TRAIL OR TOWN OF STRUCTURE. UM, THIS INFORMATION WAS INCLUDED IN THIS SECTION AND IT DOES MATCH THE INTENT OF THE CURRENT POLICY. IT JUST GIVES SOME MORE DESCRIPTION TO IT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THIS MAY INCLUDE THE NAMING OF INDIVIDUAL ITEMS IN A PARK OR FACILITY. AND, UM, THE PROPOSED POLICY GOES TO SAY THAT THOSE ITEMS COULD BE A PAVILION, A PLAZA, OR A MEETING ROOM. SO IT GIVES JUST MORE SUGGESTION OF WHAT THOSE DIFFERENT SECTIONS COULD BE. WE ALSO WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER A REVIEW OF WHAT IS DEFINED BY THE NAMING PROCESS. THIS SECTION WAS ADDED AS A CLARIFICATION THAT PALLET PROPOSED NAME IS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL, AND THIS SECTION MATCHES THE INTENT OF THE CURRENT CALLS. IT JUST DEFINES THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR HOW THAT POLICY IS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. UM, SO IT DEFINES THAT CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED NAME. UH, THE PROPOSED FACILITY NAME MAY BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSIGHT OF THE FACILITY TO BE NAMED THE DIRECTOR WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PRESENTING THE NAMING PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL AND SHOWING HOW THE PROPOSED FACILITY NAME COMPLIES WITH THE NAMING GUIDELINES. SO THE DIRECTOR OF THAT FACILITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR BEDDING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED COMPLIES WITH THE CURRENT POLICY BEFORE THAT NAME IS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL. UM, AND THEN IT DEFINES THE APPROVAL OF A PROPOSED NAME. THE NAMING OR RENAMING OF A FACILITY IS AT THE SOLE DISCRETION OF CITY COUNCIL, AND MUST COMPLY WITH THE NAMING GUIDELINES APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED NAME MUST BE APPROVED THREE QUARTER VOTE, UM, OF ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND THAT'S VERBATIM FROM WHAT WAS IN THE PROPOSED. UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT [01:30:01] WE'RE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE JUST ADDED A STEP, UH, HOW THE ITEMS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL WHO GETS IT, WHO PUTS TOGETHER THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN THE VOTING REQUIREMENTS ARE THE SAME AS WHAT WAS IN THE CURRENT POLICY. HEY, JANA, QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THAT ON AUTUMN ONE UP THERE, IT SAYS THAT THAT THE PROPOSED FACILITY NAME MAY BE PRESENTED BY TO THE COUNCIL BY THE DEPARTMENT HEAD. IS THERE OTHER AVENUES COULD CAUSE COUNCIL I'M ASSUMING COULD MAKE A PRESENTATION. I MEAN, I DON'T, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF IT'S ONLY DEPARTMENT HEADS, IT SAYS IT MAY BE OR SHALBY, OR I THINK WHAT THIS IS TRYING TO DEFINE IS PRESENTATION THAT IS PUT TOGETHER AND INFORMATION CAN CONSOLIDATED FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION. AND THAT DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WE MAY HAVE A NEW PARK THAT'S BEING BUILT, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL BASED ON MAYBE SOME NAMES THAT THE DEVELOPER SUGGESTED WOULD BE ONE AVENUE. SO THAT DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR WOULD PUT TOGETHER THAT INFORMATION TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL. UM, ANOTHER WAY THIS COULD HAPPEN WOULD BE JUST LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THAT COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER A NAMING OF FACILITY AFTER SOMEONE FOR THEIR SERVICE OR, UM, AND SO THEY WOULD MENTION THIS TO THE CITY MANAGER, BUT THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THAT INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL TO DISCUSS. SO WE SHOULD HAVE SHOULD THAT THEN READ SHELL SO THAT THE PROPOSED SOLELY NAME SHALL BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL OR CONSIDERATION. THAT IS A GOOD POINT. AND WE CAN CHANGE THAT TO WHERE IT READS DOWN. OKAY. SO THIS, THIS IS A NEW ITEM ON SECTION B UNDER NAMING RECOGNITION. IT'S A NEW SECTION, BUT IT ACTUALLY DEFINES THE PROCESS FOR HOW THE TOWN HAS BEEN RECOGNIZING A FACILITY NAMED AFTER AN INDIVIDUAL SERVICE OR CONTRIBUTION. UM, AND SO THE INTENT IS JUST TO DOCUMENT THAT IN THE POLICY, SO THAT, UM, WHAT READS HERE IS THAT A NAME FACILITY MAY BE RECOGNIZED WITH THE PLAQUE NOT TO EXCEED 24 BY 36 INCHES, THE PLAQUE, WHICH MAY INCLUDE THE INDIVIDUALS NAME GRAPHIC OF THE INDIVIDUAL, AND A DESCRIPTION OF THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO THE TOWN AND THE PLAQUE TO A FREE STANDING SUPPORT OR AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE. SO YOU'LL SEE AN EXAMPLE HERE OF, UM, THE PLACKET REDDING TRAIL. I WOULD WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE JUST TOOK THAT PLAQUE TO GO HAVE IT RESURFACE. SO NEXT TIME YOU SEE IT A LITTLE NICER THAN IT DOES IN THIS PHOTO. UM, BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT RECOGNITION WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND THOSE PLAQUES THAT ARE INSTALLED ARE 32 BY 20 INCHES. SO, UM, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY GIVEN IN THIS DIMENSIONS, UM, THAT ARE LISTED HERE AND THEN THE NEXT SIDE, AND THIS IS STILL A NEW SECTION. UM, IT LISTS THAT, UM, THE PROCESS, WHAT ELSE COULD BE USED TO RECOGNIZE OUR RECOGNIZED SERVICE, UM, A NAMED AREA OR ITEM IN A FACILITY MAY BE RECOGNIZED WITH ONE OF THE COMBINATION OF THE FOLLOWING ELEMENTS AND WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU HERE ARE PICTURES WHERE WE ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS RECENTLY WHERE COUNCIL WANTED TO RECOGNIZE SERVICE TOWN STAFF, OR FORMER STAFF, AND CHOSE TO DO THAT IN A WAY THAT MEDALLIONS WERE EMBEDDED IN THE CONCRETE AND SOME ENGRAVING EXISTING MEDALLIONS. SO THIS RE REFLECTS WHAT'S BEEN DONE. UM, SO THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A PLAQUE THAT DOES NOT SAY 24 BY 24 INCHES, UH, PAVING MEDALLION, NOT TO EXCEED THAT SIZE IN AN EXTRACTION ON AN EXISTING FEATURE WITHIN A FACILITY, UM, RECOGNITION SHALL INCLUDE THE PERSON'S NAME IF APPLICABLE THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE IN A SMALL INSCRIPTION DESCRIBING THE TOWN SURFACE WITH THE PROJECT. SO THE INTENT OF ADDING THESE IS JUST TO REFLECT WHAT IS ALREADY WITHIN THE TOWN AND PERHAPS HELP SPEED UP THE PROCESS IN THE FUTURE. UM, WHEN WE HAVE FUTURE FACILITIES THAT WE'D LIKE TO CONSIDER, UM, RECOGNITION FOR, THIS IS ANOTHER SECTION THREE, THIS IS ANOTHER NEW SECTION RECOGNITIONS OF DONATIONS, NOT ASSOCIATED WITH NAMING THE DONATIONS, NOT ASSOCIATED WITH NAMES. AND THE INTENT OF THIS SECTION IS TO MATCH WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE BY NONPROFIT GROUPS THAT ARE DOING FUNDRAISING ON, UM, ON BENEFIT OF A TOWN. [01:35:01] SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE PHOTOS THAT I'VE PROVIDED, THERE'S A MONOLITH WITH A PLAQUE ATTACHED TO IT THAT DESIGNATES A SCULPTURE THAT'S BEEN INSTALLED IN, UM, THIS ONE'S IN SPRAWL PARK AND THIS WAS DONE ON BEHALF OF THE ARBOR FOUNDATION. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE A DRINKING FOUNTAIN THAT ALSO HAS A PLAQUE ATTACHED TO IT, DESIGNATING THAT THAT FOUNTAIN WAS DONATED BY, UM, ADDISON LEGACY FOUNDATION. UM, SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY BEING IMPLEMENTED IN TOWN. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THIS PARAGRAPH REFLECTS THAT, UM, RECOGNITION OF DONATIONS ACKNOWLEDGED CAN BE ACKNOWLEDGED IN ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MANNERS. IT CAN BE A SINGLE MAN AND PLAQUE NO LARGER THAN, UM, AND THAT SHOULD SAY 10 INCHES BY 12 INCHES. I'LL FIX THAT. AND WE DON'T WANT TO TEMPT THAT FLAG, UM, NOT INCLUDING THE BASE TO BE DISPLAYED IN THE FACILITY, RECEIVING THE DONATION. UM, IT CAN ALSO BE AN ENGRAVED PAPER OR STONE. SO THIS REFLECTS WHAT WE'VE DONE IN SPROLE DOG PART TO BE GROUPED NEAR THE ENTRANCE OR IN A PROMINENT LOCATION OF A FACILITY, RECEIVING THE DONATIONS WHERE IT COULD BE AN INSCRIPTION TO BE LOCATED ON DONATED ITEM, INCLUDING ENGRAVINGS. SO ONE EXAMPLE HERE WOULD BE THE, UM, BENCHES THAT POST DONATED AT SQUIRREL DOG PARK, DOG PARK THAT HAS THEIR NAME IN SCRIPTED ONTO THOSE BENCHES. THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF THAT. IT DEFINES THE APPROVED WORDING THAT CAN BE INCLUDED ON THOSE PLAQUES. SO THIS IS, IS THAT A NEW SECTION AND, UM, THE TEXAS DEFINED HERE REFLECTS WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING DONE IN FACILITIES THAT, UM, THE PLAQUE CAN INCLUDE, RECOGNIZE AN INDIVIDUAL. IT CAN INCLUDE THEIR NICKNAME. IT CAN INCLUDE A BUSINESS NAME, A PET NAME WHERE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN ORGANIZATION OR, UM, ORGANIZATION OR A GROUP NAME. IT MAY INCLUDE A SIMPLE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT SUCH AS DONATED BY OR SUPPORT PROVIDED BY. UM, AND IT MAY INCLUDE A GROUP DESCRIPTOR SUCH AS BY THE FRIENDS AND FAMILY OF, SO YOU'LL SEE A PLAQUE HERE THAT WAS INSTALLED AT THE PEACE AND TRANQUILITY SCULPTURE THAT, UM, THE LISTING ON THAT IS BY THE FRIENDS AND FAMILY OF, SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THAT'S BEEN DONE. UM, AND IT ALSO CLARIFIES THAT ANONYMOUS DONATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE RECOGNITION. AND THEN, UM, ANOTHER CLARIFICATION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IS RECOGNITION OF MULTIPLE DONATIONS FOR A FUNDRAISER MUST BE GROUPED ON A SINGLE PLAQUE OR IN A PAVED AREA. AND THE REASON WE INCLUDED THIS IS WE WOULD LIKE TO STEER AWAY FROM HAVING A LOT OF VERY SMALL PLAQUES. PERHAPS LET'S SAY SOMETHING WAS GOING TO GIVE US 75 TREES THAT WANTED THE DONATION AND RECOGNIZE WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A SINGLE PLAQUE WITH A DONATION OF THOSE 75 TREES RECOGNIZED ON THAT CLOCK INSTEAD OF A PLAQUE AT EACH ONE OF THE TREES, THAT'S JUST REALLY HARD FOR US TO MAINTAIN. UM, AND IT CAN HAVE A TENDENCY TO LOOK A LITTLE CLUTTERED WITH A SINGLE PLAQUE IS A LOT CLEANER. UM, SO THAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION HERE. UM, JUST SOME MORE PHOTOS. THESE, UM, GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER VIEW. YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THESE, BUT INCLUDED IN HERE IS ALSO THE POST ADDISON CIRCLE BENCH. UM, AND THEN A PHOTO OF THE PAVERS THAT ARE GROUPED TOGETHER, UM, AT SCROLL DOG PARK IN THIS SECTION THAT IS DONATIONS AND RECOGNIZE RECOGNITION OF DONATIONS NOT ACCEPTED WITH NAOMI ARE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH NAMING, UM, DEFINES THE APPROVAL PROCESS. SO, UM, IT PROPOSES THAT THE DAMAR DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR THAT OVERSEES THE FACILITY IN WHICH THE RECOGNITION WILL BE DISPLAYED, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING THE PROPOSED RECOGNITION AND ENSURING IT COMPLIES WITH THE POLICY. ANY EXCEPTIONS REQUESTED BY THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION MUST BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL. SO THIS JUST GIVES THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS THE FREEDOM. UM, SO WE'LL GET WHAT THE NONPROFIT GROUP IS WANTING TO PUT ON THEIR RECOGNITION, WHETHER IT BE A PLAQUE OR A PAVER, AND LOOKING AT THE LIST THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED THE CRITERIA AND ENSURING THAT IT MEETS THAT CRITERIA SO THEY COULD GIVE THE NONPROFIT GROUP AUTHORIZATION TO INSTALL THE PLAQUE OR THE RECOGNITION ELEMENT THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR. AND THEN THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT WERE IN THE CURRENT POLICY. THERE'S NO CHANGES. UM, IT, IT DEFINES THAT AT ANY TIME IF COUNCIL DEEMS WORTHY OR IT'S IMPORTANT THAT A NAME CAN BE REMOVED FROM AN AREA, UM, AND IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR EXCEPTION AND CITY COUNCIL CAN MAKE EXCEPTIONS TO THIS POLICY WHEN IT'S DEEMED APPROPRIATE. SO THESE, THESE ARE JUST HERE TO ROUND OUT THAT POLICY, BUT THERE'S NO, UM, CHANGES FROM THE CURRENT POLICY. UM, THE NEXT STEP I'M GOING TO GET INTO IS I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC [01:40:01] ART POLICY, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME HERE TO PAUSE. UM, SINCE I JUST THREW A LOT OF INFORMATION AT YOU ON THE NAMING POLICY AND DISCUSSION ON THOSE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS AND POINTS OF DISCUSSION THAT WE BROUGHT ABOUT FOR YOU AT THIS TIME. YEAH, JANET, THIS IS MARLIN. I'VE GOT A QUESTION. UM, ARE THESE, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED RECOMMENDED CHANGES? ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO MORE ENCOMPASS ALL OF THE VARIOUS NAMING, UM, SCENARIOS THAT, THAT MAY PLAY OUT AND INSERT THOSE INTO THE NAMING AND RECOGNITION POLICY? YOU ARE CORRECT. UM, IT, WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE RON WHITEHEAD AND THE CARMEN MORAN RECOGNITION, IT BECAME VERY EVIDENT THAT WE, WE HAVE SOME VERY THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING. UM, BUT SOME OF THAT CAN BE LOST IF STAFF CHANGES, COUNCIL CHANGES. UM, SO IT MADE SENSE TO DOCUMENT IT IN A POLICY. SO ANYBODY, UM, THAT WOULD TOUCH RECOGNITION NAMING OF FACILITY WOULD HAVE, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO BACKTRACK KIND OF LIKE OUR DEPARTMENT HAD TO DO WITH DOING SOME RESEARCH. UM, SO THIS IS JUST A REALLY, UM, PUT INTO POLICY WHAT'S ALREADY BEING DONE IN TOWN. OKAY. I JUST, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS AND IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU GO THAT ROUTE IT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR, WHY YOU'D BE THINKING, A LOT OF THESE THOUGHTS MAKES SENSE TO ME. UM, BUT THE MORE I GO AROUND TOWN, YOU KNOW, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, THE ADDISON FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, THE LIBERTY BILL DONATED AT, UH, UM, MADISON BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A BRICK PAVERS, UM, ON THE PEDESTRIAN PATH IN FRONT OF ANTONIO'S RESTAURANT. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT ARE PART OF THE WATERTOWER DATA. IT'S JUST, UH, IN A GOOD WAY, A LOT OF, UM, RECORDS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND, UM, AND TO ME, I COULD, I COULD SEE IT BEING VERY, VERY CHALLENGING, TRYING TO ENCOMPASS ALL OF, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THIS, IN THIS OVERARCHING, UH, NAMING AND RECOGNITION POLICY. SO MY PERSPECTIVE ON IT WAS LET'S DOCUMENT THE CURRENT THINGS. SO WE CAN SPEED UP THE PROCESS. IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO USE A RECOGNITION ELEMENT THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED OR HAVING AN APPROVED POLICY THAT THAT WOULD HELP SPEED UP THE PROCESS FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO GET RECOGNITION AS COUNCIL IS ALLOWED TO CONSIDER EXCEPTIONS. UM, THERE, THERE OTHER, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE ANOTHER SITUATION THAT ARISES THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE SOMETHING IN A DIFFERENT MANNER. AND THAT'S DEFINITELY APPROPRIATE. I THINK THIS WOULD JUST DEFINE, UM, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AS THE STANDARD CATALYST FOR NAMING AND RECOGNITION TO BE USED IN PARKS. WHAT WOULD THIS, UM, CAUSES TO REMOVE, UM, YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR, SOME OF OUR PARTICULAR NAMING RIGHTS AND POLICIES? I DIDN'T, MY IMPRESSION OF THIS WOULD BE THIS IS EVERYTHING GOING FORWARD. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING. SO THAT WOULD BE, YES. THAT WOULD BE LIKE, SO LET'S CLARIFY, PLEASE, MARLIN WITH THIS, FOR EXAMPLE, JANA, WOULD THIS IMPACT THE WATER TOWER THEATER'S ABILITY TO NAME, FOR EXAMPLE, THE STAGE, IF THEY GOT A DONATION FROM A DONOR TO NAME THE STAGE AT THE WATER TOWER THEATER? NOT AT ALL. IN FACT, I, THE WATER TOWER THEATER HAS THEIR OWN POLICY, UM, BUT IT WOULD NOT AT ALL IMPACT ANY OF THAT. AND IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING VERY UNIQUE, THAT JUST MEANS THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION OVER IT. RIGHT. AND WEST THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. UM, WE'VE GOT AN ADDISON THEATER CENTER, NAMING RIGHTS. I THINK THAT'S A POLICY WE'VE GOT TYPICALLY THE SAME FOR SPROULE PARK. UM, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THEM. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT ALL WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. AND, AND SOME OF THESE, ANOTHER THOUGHT I SAW WAS A ON PAGE 10 OF THE PRESENTATION. UM, I'M PAYING MY DAY NOT TO EXCEED 24 BY 24. AND WHEN I'M LOOKING AT, AT THE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK PLAZA DEDICATED TO RON WHITEHEAD NEXT STICK, NEXT TO THE VITRUVIAN PARK, WHAT WE'RE MAYBE CALLING THAT AN INSCRIPTION, YOU KNOW, TO ME, THOSE, THOSE LOOK A LOT OF LIGHT. SO I JUST, I DON'T KNOW, I'M [01:45:01] KIND OF HESITANT TO GET TOO PRESCRIPTIVE ON THE, UH, SOME OF THESE MEASUREMENTS, BUT JUST THOUGHT I WANTED TO SHARE JUST FYI, THE RON WHITEHEAD'S PLAQUE AND THE VITRUVIAN PARK MEDALLION, GRANITE MEDALLION, THOSE ARE NOT TO SCALE. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT SIZES, MUCH, MUCH DIFFERENT. JANET, JUST GOING BACK THEN. SO THIS WOULD NOT SUPERSEDE ANY EXISTING POLICY, IS THAT WHAT I JUST HEARD? AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS YOUR INTENTION AND TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY IN DRAFTING THIS OR WHEREVER DRAFTED IT, THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO CURRENT PRACTICES. THE INTENT IS NOT TO CHANGE ANY OF THE CURRENT PRACTICES. IT'S JUST TO PROVIDE MORE DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING DONE AND INCLUDE THAT IN THE POLICY. UM, WHAT WAS THE PREVIOUS POLICY REALLY FOCUSED ON IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A DONATION AND HAVE A FACILITY NAMED AFTER THEM, UM, HERE'S WHAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE. THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL IN THE POLICY REGARDING THAT. UM, BUT WE SAW THIS WHEN WE GOT INTO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT RECOGNIZING RON WHITEHEAD, THAT THERE WASN'T IN CARMEN RAN, THERE WASN'T A POLICY, UM, THAT WE COULD EASILY FOLLOW. SO WE KIND OF HAD TO COME UP WITH WHAT WAS APPROPRIATE TO DO. SO WE'D LIKE TO JUST, UM, PROVIDE SOME FRAMEWORK FOR THAT. SO WE COULD CONTINUE THAT IN THE FUTURE. YOU'VE ANSWERED MY 2 CENTS. THANKS. HI, JANET. THIS IS TOM. HEY, IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU HAD NAMING REGARDING THE PLAQUES AT THE FIRST ONE? YOU HAVE 24 BY 36, AND FOR SOME REASON DOWN BELOW, YOU WANT TO LIMIT IT TO 24 BY 24, WOULDN'T IT JUST BE THE SAME SIZE OR PLAQUE OR MEDALLION? I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO. 24 BY 24 FITS INTO THE, WHAT WE DID FOR RON WHITEHEAD. BUT IF, IF THE OTHER ONES UP ABOVE FOR THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, LIKE THESE OTHER RECOGNITIONS ARE FALLING WITHIN THAT 24 BY 36, WOULDN'T YOU JUST MAKE THAT THE SAME AND MAKE IT EASY INSTEAD OF HAVING DIFFERENT SIZES, WE DEFINITELY COULD DO THAT. THEN ONE DISTINGUISHER IS ON THE, UM, PAGE NINE WHERE IT'S JUST THE 24 BY 36, THAT'S ACTUALLY NAMING A FACILITY AFTER AN INDIVIDUAL. SO IN MY MIND THERE WAS A HIERARCHY THERE VERSUS, UM, WE, WE RECOGNIZED AN AREA OF A PART OR A STAFF MEMBER SERVICE AND AN AREA OF APART. SO IT MADE A LITTLE SENSE TO ME IN THE HIERARCHY OF THINGS THAT THE SIZE BE SLIGHTLY SMALLER, BUT THERE'S NOT A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO. AND IF, UM, EVERYBODY FELT COMFORTABLE WITH THE 24 BY 30 INCH, 36 INCH SIZE, THAT DOES, LIKE MARLON SAID, UM, MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE, UM, AND NOT BE SO DEFINED. AND IT IS AFTER ALL AND NOT TO BE EXCEEDED. IT COMES OKAY. ALWAYS MAKE DIFFERENT SIZES, NATIVE GUIDELINES. HEY, JANET, WOULD IT, WOULD IT HELP YOU IF THERE ARE SOME, UH, NAMING RECOGNITION PIECES MAYBE THAT AREN'T COVERED HERE AND THAT WAS SHARED WITH YOU? SURE. UM, I WOULD APPRECIATE, I, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE FOUND EVERYTHING AND THEN I FIND SOMETHING NEW. SO I UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S ELEMENTS THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M AWARE OF. DEFINITELY. OKAY. YOU MAY HAVE IT COVERED, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I'M NOT SEEING. AND I WOULD LOVE TO JUST SHARE THEM WITH YOU. AND HOPEFULLY YOU COULD THINK ABOUT THOSE IS, DO YOU WANT TO SHARE THOSE WITH THE GROUP? YEAH. YOU MADE IT A TRY TO SHARE THEM NOW, OR YOU MADE A COLLECT ALL. I MEAN, TRY TO COLLECT THEM LATER IF YOU HAVEN'T NOW GO AHEAD. OH, NO, I DON'T HAVE THEM ALL RIGHT NOW. UM, BUT, UM, JUST A COUPLE, UH, THOUGHTS THAT CAME TO MY MIND IS, UM, IF WE GO BACK TO THE, THE, UH, OH, THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING RON, UM, AND CARMEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE, THERE WERE QUITE A BIT OF, UM, RECOGNITION PIECES THERE, AND I'M NOT SURE IF ALL OF THOSE FALL INTO HERE, BUT I WOULD START WITH THAT LIST. UM, YOU KNOW, THE ADDISON FIRE BELL RECOGNITION PIECE, I DON'T, UH, THE BRICK PAVERS IN FRONT OF ANTONIO'S THAT, UH, THAT ARE RELATED TO FUNDRAISING WITH THE WATER TOWER THEATER COME TO MIND. UM, YOU KNOW, WE MAY, [01:50:02] YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE, SO WE'VE GOT THE ADDISON FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, LIBERTY BELL. WE MAY HAVE SOMETHING ACROSS THE STREET LATER, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AT LEAST I HOPE WE DO. UM, THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT JUST POP OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. ALRIGHT. ANIMAL QUESTION FOR JANNA, IF NOT, JENNA, CONTINUE YOUR PRESENTATION, PLEASE. SURE. UM, SO THE NEXT PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION, UM, LIGHTS TO PROPOSE CHANGES WITH THE PUBLIC ART POLICY. AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE BROUGHT THE TWO POLICIES BEFORE YOU IS WE REALIZED THAT, UM, ALTHOUGH THERE WAS SOME LANGUAGE IN BOTH POLICIES THAT ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT NONPROFITS COULD ACCEPT DONATIONS, UM, THERE, IT DIDN'T REALLY DEFINE WHAT WAS CURRENTLY BEING DONE. AND ONE GOOD EXAMPLE IS WHAT THE ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION IS DOING IN WAYS OF PUBLIC ART. UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, THEY, THEY TAKE FUNDS THAT THEY RECEIVE WHETHER THROUGH FUNDRAISING OR THROUGH A GRANT FROM THE TOWN, AND THEY ARE ABLE TO, UM, SECURE A SCULPTURE THAT'S INSTALLED IN A LOCATION IN TOWN, AND THEN THEY INSTALL A MODEL MONOLITH NEXT TO THAT SCULPTURE AND A PLAQUE. AND THEY USE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SOLICIT DONATIONS AND THOSE DONATIONS. UM, IN ESSENCE, THEY'RE LEVERAGING, UM, THE FUNDS THAT THEY ARE GETTING FROM THE TOWN AND TRYING TO MAKE THEM GO FURTHER. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE TREES THAT THEY DONATED RECENTLY TO REPLACE SOME OF THE STORM DAMAGE TREES, UM, THOSE FUNDS CAME FROM, UM, SOME FUNDRAISING EFFORTS THAT THEY'VE DONE, BUT ALSO THEIR ABILITY TO SELL DONATIONS ON PLAQUES. UM, SO WE JUST WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT'S BEING DONE, UM, SEE THAT THE PUBLIC ART POLICY REFLECTS THAT IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UM, AND DOCUMENTS IT. SO, UM, FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT, IT, IT KIND OF TAKES THE GRAY OUT OF IT. IT ALLOWS US TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO AND VERIFY THAT THEY'RE CARRYING OUT COUNCIL'S INTENTIONS. UM, SO I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE CHANGES IN THIS POLICY. THERE THEY'RE VERY LIMITED, UM, ONE THING, AND IT ALSO ADDRESSES NAMING JUST A LITTLE BIT. SO THE FIRST THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS ITEM TWO, IN THAT POLICY GENERAL GUIDELINES FOR ACCEPTING, DONATED WORKS OF ART. SO I, WE WANTED TO INCLUDE THIS HERE. UM, SO IT REFLECTS WHAT'S IN THE NAMING POLICY THAT, UM, PUBLIC ART SHOULD NOT BE NAMED. UM, BECAUSE IN FACT, THE ARTWORK SHOULD BEAR THE NAME THAT WAS DETERMINED BY THE ARTISTS. SO ARTWORK IS NOT NAMED AFTER AN INDIVIDUAL IT'S NAMED BY AN ARTIST. SO THIS CLARIFIES THAT, UM, AND THEN IT DEFINES THE PROCESS. UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE CURRENT LANGUAGE THAT'S ALREADY IN THE POLICY, BUT I JUST WANTED, I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. SO I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD TIME TO JUST KIND OF DOCUMENT OR HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. UM, THE ARBOR FOUNDATION WILL PRESENT THE PROPOSED PUBLIC ART AND LOCATIONS TO COUNCIL COUNCIL ACTION BY RESOLUTION IS REQUIRED BEFORE COUNCIL ACCEPTS WORKS OF ART, COMMISSIONING ARTISTS, OR ANY OTHER WORK RELATED TO THE INSTALLATION OF THE PUBLIC ART. UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO CLARIFY IS THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT HAPPENS BEFORE THE ARBOR FOUNDATION BRINGS THAT PROPOSED ART PIECE TO COUNCIL, AND THEY MAY NOT HAVE, UM, PAID THE ARTIST ANY MONEY AT THAT POINT, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, GETTING, YOU KNOW, ILLUSTRATIONS DONE AND WORKING OUT SCHEMATICS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT IS DONE, UM, BEHIND THE SCENES BEFORE A PIECE OF ART BROUGHT TO COUNCIL. UM, SOMETIMES, I MEAN, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THE, FROM THIS POLICY. MY INTERPRETATION IS THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO PURCHASE A PIECE OF ART. FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO DONATE SOMETHING TO THEM AND THEY HAD TO RESTORE IT, UM, SUCH AS THE AKITA PIECE THAT THEY DID HAVE THE ABILITY THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO INVEST IN THAT PIECE. BUT THE DISTINGUISHING FACTOR IS IT WOULDN'T BE PLACED ON TOWN PROPERTY UNTIL IT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL FOR ACTION. SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE PROCESS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING. UM, AND, AND HOW COUNCIL, ULTIMATELY, ANY PIECE OF PUBLIC ART THAT ENDS UP ON TOWN PROPERTY, UM, WOULD COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION, UM, THE INSTALLATION AND MAINTENANCE GUIDELINES. THIS IS WHERE, UM, THE BIG AMENDMENT TO THE POLICY IS OCCURRING. UM, THE CURRENT POLICY SAYS THAT A MODEL LIFT WITH A PLAQUE MAYBE LOCATED NEXT TO THE SCULPTURE, UM, BUT [01:55:01] IT DOESN'T GET INTO, UM, WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING DONE THAT DONATIONS ARE BEING SOLICITED BY THE ARBOR FOUNDATION, AND THEN THOSE DONATIONS ARE BEING RECOGNIZED ON THAT FLAT. SO, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THAT BE ADDED TO THE PUBLIC ART POLICY, AND IT'S VERBATIM FOR WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AND THE RECOGNITION PORTION OF THE NAMING POLICY. UM, IT JUST TOOK THAT LANGUAGE AND ALSO INSERTED IT IN THE PUBLIC ART POLICY TO REFLECT, UM, WHAT WAS IN THAT COLUMN. AGAIN, NOT TO BE REDUNDANT. I WON'T READ ALL OF THIS OFF, BUT IT BASICALLY LISTS THE APPROVED WORDING THAT COULD BE LOCATED, THE PLAQUE THAT THEY WOULD PLACE BY, UM, A PIECE OF ART. THAT'S AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES FOR BOTH POLICIES. UM, I LIKE TO OUR NEXT STEPS WOULD BE AFTER WE HEAR YOUR DISCUSSION, WE WOULD MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE POLICY. SO WE DEFINITELY WILL, UM, TAKE THE INFORMATION THAT COUNCILMAN RELISTEN IS GOING TO SHARE WITH US, AND WE'LL LOOK AT HOW THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE NAMING AND RECOGNITION POLICY. UM, AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO FINALLY BRING THAT BACK, BOTH BOTTLE POLICIES TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL. UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ARBOR OR THE PUBLIC ART POLICY AND THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT WE WERE SHARING. I HAD A QUESTION. JENNA, HAS, HAS THE ARBOR FOUNDATION HAVE SOME FOLKS THERE SEEN THIS POLICY AND HAD A CHANCE TO COMMENT? YES, I DID SHARE THE CHANGES IN THE POLICY WITH THE ARBOR FOUNDATION AND THEY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW AND PROVIDED SOME FEEDBACK AND WE MADE SOME FEW MODIFICATIONS, A FEW MODIFICATIONS. SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE, UM, HAS BEEN VETTED BY THEIR GROUP AND TOWN STAFF. THANKS DISCUSSION. I HAD ONE, ONE QUESTION FOR JENNA RELATED BACK TO THE NAMING POLICY. IF THIS POLICY IS NOT GOING TO SUPERSEDE ANY EXISTING POLICIES, DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO LIST EXISTING POLICIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE HONORED AS PART OF THE DOCUMENT? I'M THINKING OF THE WATER TOWER POLICY, I'M THINKING OF SCHOOL PARK, AND IF THERE ARE OTHERS, I'M JUST THINKING, CAPTURE THEM. IF IN FACT OUR GOAL IS TO LIST HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK SO THAT PEOPLE ARE CLEAR. I WOULD HATE TO HAVE TO AMEND THE NAMING POLICY EVERY TIME IF WE MADE A NEW POLICY, BUT I THINK IT DEFINITELY WOULD BE VALUABLE TO HAVE A DESCRIPTION IN THERE THAT ANY EXISTING POLICIES, UM, WOULD SUPERSEDE THE GUIDANCE THAT'S IN NEEDS AND YOU'D HAVE A LISTING, EVEN IF IT WEREN'T LISTED IN THE POLICY. ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE IN THE NAMING AND RECOGNITION POLICIES IS IT'S ACTUALLY ONE LINE THAT STATES SPECIFICALLY THE NAMING AND RECOGNITION POLICY DOESN'T APPLY TO THE PUBLIC ART POLICY, FOR EXAMPLE. SO I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY DO SOME KIND OF A SIMILAR CONCEPT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICIES THAT WE WANT TO MAINTAIN IN PLACE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SCHOOL DOG PARK, OR THE WATSON POD, UH, MAYBE POLICY WHERE THE, THE WATER TOWER THEATER STUFF, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT IT'S, THAT THERE ARE OTHER POLICIES THAT GOVERN THAT, THAT ACTIVITY RELATED TO THAT. THANKS. I WANT TO THANK JAN AND HIT A WELL IN THE PEN A LOT OF TIME WORKING ON THIS PROJECT AND IT'S KIND OF A TEDIOUS AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING COMING UP, OH, WELL, WE APPROVED THIS, BUT CONSOLE HAS ALWAYS A RIGHT TO MAKE THE CHANGES IF NEEDED. SO, UM, THIS SPACE IS JUST, AND THEN STEPH CAN FOLLOW TO BE A HIGH COURT ADVISOR, GENERAL GUIDELINE, ALL THE NEW POLICIES AND MORE CAUTION ON THIS. THANK YOU, JENNA. ALRIGHT, NEXT WORK SESSION. [8. Present and Discuss the Timing for Rescheduling the Special Charter Amendment Election Originally Planned for May 2, 2020.] OKAY. PRESENT, DISCUSS TIMING. FALL RISK SCHEDULING THE SPECIAL CHARTER MEMBER, THE ELECTION [02:00:01] PLANNED FOR MAY 2ND, BUNGEE WES. HI TIM. I'M GOING TO TURN THE TIME OVER TO CHARLES GOFF FOR A BRIEF PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL CHARLES GOFF, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. UH, TONIGHT WE WANTED TO DISCUSS THE TIMELINE FOR RESCHEDULING THIS SPECIAL COLLECTION, UH, ON THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS AND GET SOME DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AS TO HOW TO PROCEED. JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER, UH, THE COUNCIL WERE CALLED THAT LAST FALL COUNCIL APPOINTED THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION TO LOOK AT THE CURRENT CHARTER AND CONSIDER ANY CHANGES THAT MIGHT BE NECESSARY. UM, AND AFTER MEETING SEVERAL TIMES, THEY ULTIMATELY, UH, RECOMMENDED 26 PROPOSITIONS TO AMEND THE CHARTER IN VARIOUS WAYS. THESE WERE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL EARLIER THIS YEAR AND IN FEBRUARY THE COUNCIL, UH, CONCURRED WITH THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND VOTED CALL FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION ON MAY 2ND, 2020, UH, AND THEN COVID-19 HIT AND KIND OF CHANGED EVERYTHING. SO IN RESPONSE TO THE PANDEMIC, UH, GOVERNOR ABBOTT ON, UH, MARCH 18TH ISSUED A PROCLAMATION THAT ALLOWED POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS TO, UH, MOVE, UH, THEIR ELECTION SCHEDULED FOR MAY 2ND TO THE OTHER UNIFORM ELECTION DAYS OF THE YEAR, WHICH IS, UH, NOVEMBER 3RD, 2020, UH, SUBSEQUENTLY ON APRIL 14TH, THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO POSTPONE, UH, THE SPECIAL ELECTION ON THE CHARTER WITHOUT SPECIFYING A PARTICULAR DATE. AND SO WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS, UM, SCHEDULING FOR TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 3RD, 2020 IS THE MOST STRAIGHTFORWARD OPTION BECAUSE IT'S THE MAY 2ND SPECIAL ELECTION WAS NOT CAMPER OUTRIGHT. AND THEREFORE THE GOVERNOR'S PROCLAMATION APPEARS TO REQUIRE THAT THE ELECTION BE HELD ON THAT DAY, NOVEMBER 3RD, UH, THERE'S PROS AND CONS WITH THE DATES, UH, ON, ON THE PRO SIDE. UM, IT'S THE SOONEST OPTION FOR FOLLOWING THE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED ELECTION DATE. SO, UH, AS, AS, AS, UM, IT ALLOWS US TO ADDRESS, UM, THE CONVERSATION BEFORE MEMORIES GET ANY MORE FADED FROM WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS LAST FALL, UH, AND THEN ALLOWS US ALSO TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE CHARTER, UH, MORE QUICKLY THAN A LATER DATE, UH, THE CONS ARE THAT, UH, COVID-19 STILL AROUND. IT'S STILL LIKELY TO BE, UH, AROUND IN THE FALL. AND THERE ARE SOME PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERTS ARE SAYING THAT MAY BE WORSE THAN THE FALL. SO THAT MAY BE A DETRIMENT TO PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN THE ELECTION. UH, AND THEN ALSO, UM, IT BEING A MA A NOVEMBER ELECTION, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER ELECTIONS THAT OCCUR ON THAT DATE, MOST NOTABLY THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. AND SO, UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LONG BALLOT OF, OF SEVERAL RACES AND THAT MAY LEAD TO, UH, BALLOT FATIGUE FOR SOME VOTERS, NOT MAKING IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BALLOT OF THOSE RACES AND THEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH ALL 26 PROPOSITIONS. AND THEN ALSO WHILE THERE MAY BE A HIGHER PARTICIPATION BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE NATIONAL RACES, UM, VOTERS THAT ARE MOTIVATED TO COME TO THE POLLS BY THOSE NATIONAL RACES MAY NOT BE AS INFORMED ON LOCAL ISSUES. SO IF THE COUNCIL DIDN'T WANT TO PROCEED WITH NOVEMBER DATES, UH, WE COULD LOOK AT, UH, THE MAY 1ST 20, 21, UH, DATE THAT'S THE NORMAL MAIL ELECTION, UH, NEXT YEAR. UM, AND WE COULD DO THAT IN ONE OF TWO WAYS. WE COULD EITHER FORMALLY REQUEST PERMISSION FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE FOR HIM TO AMEND HIS ORDER, TO ALLOW THEM TO RESCHEDULE, UH, TO THIS DATE OR THE TOWN COULD SIMPLY CHOOSE NOT TO CALL THE SPECIAL ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER AND PROCEED WITH THE MAY ELECTION, KNOWING THAT THERE ARE SOME RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT EVEN, UH, THE LANGUAGE OF THE GOVERNOR'S CURRENT PROCLAMATION, AGAIN, PROS AND CONS ON THE PRO SIDE, UH, IT BEING A MAY DATE. THERE ARE TYPICALLY LESS ITEMS ON THOSE, UM, UH, BALLOTS. AND SO, UH, LESS OPPORTUNITY FOR VOTER FATIGUE AND MORE ABILITY FOR VOTERS TO FOCUS ON THOSE LOCAL ISSUES, SUCH AS THE CHARTER AMENDMENT, UM, WHILE THE EFFECTS OF COVID-19 ARE STILL UNKNOWN. UH, IT COULD BE BETTER THAN THE FALL, GET SOME MORE TIME TO POTENTIALLY, UM, COME UP WITH, UH, TREATMENTS, PERHAPS A VACCINE. SO IT, IT COULD DIMINISH THE EFFECTS OF COVID BY THAT TIME. UH, AND THEN, UH, CONS, UM, IT'S JUST ADDITIONAL DELAY IN, IN ADDRESSING THE KNOWN CHARTER ISSUES. UH, AND THEN IT TESTS THE LIMITS OF THE CURRENT, UH, PROCLAMATION, UH, IN THAT, UH, WHAT, WHAT THE, THE PROCLAMATION SAYS ABOUT HAVING TO HAVE IT ON THE NOVEMBER DATE. THANKS. YOU PREFER THEIR VIEW ON, SORRY. [02:05:04] SORRY. JUST THERE. WASN'T QUITE, HE WASN'T QUITE DONE. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU ALRIGHT, THANKS. SO LAST SLIDE HERE IS REALLY JUST THE QUESTION FOR COUNCIL IS WHICH DATE DO YOU ALL PREFER? THE NOVEMBER 3RD, 2020 DATE OR THE MAY 1ST, 2021 DATE? AND THE REASON THAT WE'RE ASKING THIS QUESTION NOW IS THAT IF THE COUNCIL DESIRES TO PROCEED WITH THE NOVEMBER 3RD DATE, THE LAST DAY THAT WE CAN ORDER THAT ELECTION IS AUGUST 17TH. SO BASED ON OUR REGULAR MEETING CALENDAR, WE'D HAVE TO CALL THE ELECTION AT OUR NEXT MEETING ON AUGUST 11TH. AND SO STAFF NEED SOME DIRECTION TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT I NEED TO PREPARE, UH, THAT ORDINANCE TO CALL THAT ELECTION AT OUR NEXT MEETINGS. AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I DON'T THINK I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I DO HAVE A COMMENT. I THINK IT'S VALID THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A, QUITE A BIT OF FLOATER FATIGUE IF WE GO TO CONTINUE WITH THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, UH, AND ALSO AS WE WERE TOLD SEVERAL TIMES DO NO HARM. AND THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS WHILE WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, UH, HAVING A COMMITTEE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE CHARTER. UH, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF, UH, PUTTING THIS OFF UNTIL MAY 1ST OF 2021. UM, I'M, UH, I'M IN THAT SAME CAMP AND I, I, MY, UH, VOTER FATIGUE, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT POSSIBILITY, BUT I THINK THAT THE, UH, THE EFFECTS OF THE COVID VIRUS WILL BE HOPEFULLY, UH, LESSONS AND, AND MAY WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL HAVE IT, BUT, UM, I MEAN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, UH, WE'LL GET BETTER VOTER TURNOUT TO THE LOCAL SIDE OF IT IN MAY. AND WE WON'T HAVE AS MUCH AS A COVID SCARE. YUP. I AGREE WITH ME FIRST. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST KEEP IT A LOCAL ARTIST AND BALLOT. I AGREE. I THINK, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST, BEST OPTION I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. GO AHEAD, PAUL. I KNEW THAT WE HAD SIGNED, WE'D ASKED SOME MAYORS TO SEND A LETTER TO THE GOVERNOR ASKING FOR AN AUGUST DATE FOR ELECTION DID NOT GET ANY TRACTION, CORRECT. WE MADE THE REQUEST AND IT WAS DENIED. ANY, ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST, NO, NO, IT WAS JUST NO. SO I UNDERSTAND MAJORITY WANTED TO GO WITH MAY 1ST, NEXT YEAR, A LOW COST, BUT I WAS DOING THE GET UP, BRENDA. THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. UM, YES, WOULD BE THE TECHNICAL ANSWER. THERE HAS BEEN A REQUEST TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE REGARDING THE ELECTION CALENDAR, AS IT PERTAINS TO THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS FOR ELECTIONS THAT WERE POSED FROM MAY. AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW QUICKLY WE'LL GET A RULING. UM, SO I THINK WE CAN APPROACH THIS ON MULTIPLE FRONTS REAL QUICK TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THIS, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL REQUESTS, UM, RELATED TO THE CALENDAR THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY OPEN UP, UH, THE FILING PERIOD FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO FILE FOR THE, UH, FOR AN ELECTION THAT WOULD BE HOLD HELD IN NOVEMBER? OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SAYS THE BIG GOVERNOR ORDER ALLOWS, THAT WOULD ALSO ALLOW THE TOWN TO CANCEL IT'S CALLED SPECIAL ELECTION. [02:10:05] THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. SO A DEADLINE'S COMING UP AUGUST 17TH. SO IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT ON NOVEMBER 3RD, SO, UH, I WANT US TO HAVE SOME CONSENSUS THEN YOU WANT TO DO IT MAY 1ST, 2021. YES, SIR. ONLY HERE. MARLIN. THIS IS TOM. YES. I AGREE ON A SEPARATE, I WOULDN'T WANT A SEPARATE ELECTION. IVAN. HOW ABOUT GQ? I WOULD FAKE NOVEMBER ELECTION. YOU'LL PRAY FOR NOVEMBER ELECTION. HOW ABOUT YOU GUYS? THAT'S ME, BUT I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M IN A BALL. YOU WANT TO ELABORATE ON IT. I FEAR THE MAYORAL ELECTION COMING UP AS WELL AS HALF THE COUNCIL. AND I FEAR, UM, THAT BECOMING INEXTRICABLY TANGLED UP IN, IN THAT ELECTION TO THE DETRIMENT OF, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE INCUMBENT MAYOR BELIEVES THIS AND THEN THE NEW, THE, THE NEW MAYOR, THE NEW COUNCIL COUNTS CANDIDATES OR WHATEVER BELIEVE OTHERWISE. SO I THINK THAT'S, I MEAN, NOVEMBER 3RD IS CERTAINLY NOT IDEAL FOR IMMEDIATE. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT IDEAL FOR ALL THE REASONS. AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING, BUT, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A QUESTION OF A COUPLE OF BAD OPTIONS HERE. AND I THINK THE LEAST BAD OPTION IS TO KEEP IT OUT OF THE POTENTIAL ENTANGLEMENTS OF, UH, OF, UH, THE NONSENSE THAT I PREDICT WILL HAPPEN IN THE UPCOMING MAYORAL AND COUNCIL ELECTION. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND I I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. AND MY BIGGER CONCERN IS, UM, IS VOTER FATIGUE ON THE NOVEMBER ELECTION WITH, UH, AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CHARTER VOTE AT THE END OF THAT BALLOT, WHICH IS, I THINK WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M AFRAID OF VOTER FATIGUE WITH THE, WITH THE THOUGHT OF, UM, WHY DO WE NEED TO CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT ADDISON? SO LET'S JUST VOTE NO, FOR THE CHARTER FOR THE 26 2016. OKAY. AND AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU, THAT'S NOT AN ILLEGITIMATE CONCERN. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE NONSENSE AND PROPAGANDA AND HALF-TRUTHS AND MISINFORMATION, BECAUSE WE'VE ALL LIVED THROUGH THAT LAST FOUR OR FIVE, SIX YEARS. WE'VE ALL LIVED THROUGH IT AND NOW WRITE LIES ABOUT THIS. AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN IF WE ELECT THIS PERSON? OR WHAT DOES IT MEAN IF YOU'RE LIKE THAT PERSON AND THAT IN, AND AS OPPOSED TO, JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS GOT TALKING POINTS AND SOME BLOGGER SAYS THIS, AND SOME BLOGGER SAYS THAT, AND IT'S ALL A LIE. AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S THE GREATER FEAR IN MY MIND. THEN, THEN, THEN YOUR LEGITIMATE POINT ABOUT THEY COME TO THE BOTTOM OF ELECTION AND WE GOT 26 MORE QUESTIONS FOR THEM. YOU'RE RIGHT. AND IT'S SO, SO MARLIN IT'S ONE BAD OPTION OR ANOTHER, NO, I AGREE. AND I STILL DON'T KNOW IF, I MEAN, I SAW, I'M JUST TELLING YOU GUYS, UM, WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH THESE ELECTIONS AND WE KNOW WHAT HE MEANS. AND SO IF YOU WANT TO THINK THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT YOU WANT TO FACE THAT IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER NONSENSE, THAT THAT DATA REALLY WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A MAYORAL ELECTION IN 2021. AND IF YOU THINK THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, THEN I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO RESPECTFULLY SAY YOU'RE NAIVE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WHAT I'M SAYING IS EXACTLY WHAT, OKAY. UH, [02:15:01] I HAVE A HEARD OF G RESPONSE, GQ MAYOR. I'M IN FAVOR, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE MAY 1ST 20, 21. UH, I DON'T THINK THAT I'M NAIVE IN PREACHING AND PROJECTING. WHAT'S GOING TO BE, WHAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP. UH, I, I RESPECT WHAT PAUL'S SAYING. AND SO, UH, IT IS HONESTLY BELIEVED THAT IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE, BUT WE'VE HAD PAUL WALTON'S SUGGESTION. THAT'S WHAT, UH, I MYSELF THINK. SO GIVE IT A THOUGHT IS CITY CONSOLE DEFINITELY WILL HAVE RELAXATION. AND THEN SINCE I'VE BEEN KNOWN TO GO OUT, SO THERE WILL BE ELECTION. SO IF ANYTHING HAS SIMPLIFY THAT AGENDA AND THE ISSOS PROBABLY IS THE MOST FAIR WAY. AND, UH, THAT'S MY THOUGHT AS WELL. YEAH. LOOK, WE CAN, WE CAN CHANGE THAT DATE AGAIN IF WE NEED TO. OH, IS THAT TRUE? WELL, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THE NOVEMBER 3RD, THE LAST DAY TO ORDER THE ELECTION IS ON AUGUST 17TH. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE OUT CORRECTLY. THIS IS, THIS HAS TO BE DONE ONCE EVERY 10 YEARS WITHIN A TIMELINE. WELL, WAIT A MINUTE MAYOR THOUGH, WHAT WE, WHAT HAS TO BE DONE. AND I BELIEVE WEST WILL TELL US, CORRECT US. WE HAVE TO REVIEW THE REVIEW, HAS TO BE UNDERTAKEN EVERY 10 YEARS AND WE'VE DONE THAT. SO WE'VE ALREADY LIVED TO THAT OBLIGATION. NOW, IF WE FIND THAT IT'S GOING TO BE DIVISIVE, WE CAN MAKE A, WE CAN CONSIDER MOVING THAT DATE AGAIN, UH, NOT TO NECESSARILY MAY 1ST TO AVOID IT BEING ON A AUTOMATE ORAL ELECTION FOR, FOR ADDISON. BUT WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS WE DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO BURY IT IN NOVEMBER. I DON'T WANT TO BURY IT IN NOVEMBER ELECTION. I, I DON'T EITHER. AND I, I, MY, I HAVE A S UH, YOU KNOW, AN AVERSION TO MAKING A KIND OF WHAT FEELS LIKE A POLITICAL DECISION ON SOMETHING TO ME THAT HAS TO DO WITH, UM, LETTING THE CORONAVIRUS CLEAR OUT A LITTLE BIT, GIVING IT A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AND, UH, THE VOTER FATIGUE ISSUE FOR THOSE TWO REASONS. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE HELD, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE MAY 1ST, MAY 1ST ELECTION. I MEAN, ARE YOU THINKING JUST, JUST FOR DISCUSSION, IS THE THOUGHT ABOUT VOTER FATIGUE BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE PUBLICITY AND ADS AND ALL OF THAT, OR IS IT MORE THE NUMBER OF ITEMS ACTUALLY ON THE BALLOT? AND IF IT'S THE NUMBER OF ITEMS ON THE BALLOT, I'M TRYING TO GET AN IMAGE IN MY MIND OF HOW MANY WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IT'S FOR ME, IT'S THE NUMBER OF ITEMS ON THE BALLOT. FOR ME, FOR ME, IT'S BOTH, IT'S BOTH, IT'S, IT'S THE INFORMATION THAT, THAT, THAT SOME FOLKS ARE GONNA LOOK AT OR WANT TO LOOK AT BEFORE THEY GO TO, TO CAST THEIR VOTE AND, AND THE LONG BALLOT THERE'S A WEST. CAN YOU REMIND US OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WERE PRESENTED BY THE COMMITTEE ABOUT PORTIONS, UM, OF, UH, OF THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS OR CHARTER CHANGES PASSING AND SOME NOT, I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE. I BELIEVE THE REQUEST, I BELIEVE THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE CHALLENGE THAT MAY COME ABOUT BY SOME ITEMS PASSING AND SOME ITEMS NOT, OR IS IT JUST MY CONFUSING THAT WITH ANOTHER PROCESS THAT THERE WERE, BUT I DON'T THINK, I THINK THAT, THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS FED INTO THE DECISIONS OF WHAT I'VE BEEN PLACED ON THE BALLOT OR NOT. RIGHT. SO, UM, UH, I, AND CHARLES, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, PLEASE ADD A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, BUT THERE ARE, I MEAN, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY COMBINATION OF, UH, OUTCOMES COULD OCCUR WHERE SOME ARE SELECTED IN SOME ARE NOT. UM, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE, [02:20:01] UM, THE, THE, THE RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS ARE NON-MATERIAL IN NATURE. SO THEY BETTER ALIGN OUR HAVE, HAVE OUR CHARTER ALIGN WITH LANGUAGE IT'S CONTEMPORARY, IT'S A BIT TOO TODAY, AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, THINGS IN THE PAST. SO LAWS AND THINGS THAT NO LONGER EXISTS WOULD BE REMOVED. AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE USING, UM, GENDER NEUTRAL PRONOUNS, AS OPPOSED TO JUST REFERRING TO THE CITY MANAGERS THAT HE, UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND THEN THE MATERIAL ITEMS, UH, UH, WERE, WERE MORE IN LINE WITH, UM, HOW YOU GET OUT, HOW A CANDIDATE GETS ON THE BALLOT FOR OFFICE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, IF YOU, IF YOU HAD THIS, UM, IF YOU, IF, IF THIS WAS ON THE VOTE OR ON THE, UH, BALLOT FOR THE NOVEMBER 3RD, 20, 20 ELECTION, THEN WHATEVER AMENDMENTS WERE PUT INTO PLACE WOULD BE EFFECTIVE FOR THE MAY 1ST 20, 21 COUNCIL MAYOR MAYORAL AND COUNCIL ELECTIONS. SO, UM, IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THOSE IN PLACE, THEN YOU WOULD, UH, THEY WOULD OBVIOUSLY NOT TAKE IT ANYWAY. IT DIDN'T OCCUR NOVEMBER 3RD, 2020. THEY OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T BE EFFECTIVE MAY 1ST, 2021. UM, AND THEN IF YOU HAD IT ON THE BALLOT FOR MAY 1ST 20, 21, THEN IT WOULD IMPACT THE SUBSEQUENT, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, COUNCIL OR MAYOR OR ELECTIONS, RIGHT? HEY, GQ, THIS IS MARLA. AND I WOULD ADD THIS. UM, THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSIONS, UM, WITHIN THE COMMITTEE ABOUT TRIMMING DOWN THE NUMBER OF ITEMS. UM, SO IT WAS MORE THAN 26 AND THERE WAS SOME CURRENT CONCERNS ABOUT, HEY, THIS IS A LOT. AND THERE WAS, THERE WERE VOTER FATIGUE, CONCERNS DISCUSSED, UM, YOU KNOW, DISCRIMINATED DOWN TO 26 BECAUSE THE THOUGHT WAS IT WAS GOING TO BE THIS MAY RATHER THAN SOME OTHER TIME. SO THERE, THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS WELCOME MAYOR. I THINK YOU HAVE A CONSENSUS. I MEAN, I'M IN THE MINORITY HERE, BUT, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY IS PRETTY POSITION ON THIS, HEY, WEST, YOU WANT TO TAKE OVER, WELL, I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY THE MAYOR PROTEIN'S JOB. SO, UM, I WILL DEFER TO LORI, BUT WHAT I DO, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS CHARLES MENTIONED THAT WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT VIOLATING ANYTHING IN, IN ANY, ANY RULES. RIGHT? SO, UM, UH, I BELIEVE THAT THE, THE, THE ORDER OF THE GOVERNOR IS ORDERED TO POST TO ALLOW US TO POSTPONE THE MAY 2ND 20, 20 ELECTION, UH, PUTS, UH, GIVES US A RESPONSIBILITY TO CALL HIM, OR I GUESS TECHNICALLY WE'VE ALREADY CALLED THEM ELECTRIC, AND WE'VE JUST POSTPONED IT, UH, TO THE NOVEMBER 3RD. SO, SO ABSENCE ANY CHANGE FROM THE, UH, FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION OR, OR SOME OTHER ORDER FROM THE GOVERNOR, THEN, UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO NOT HAVE A NOVEMBER 3RD ELECTION. UM, AND, AND I THINK WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. UM, CHARLES, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE PLEASE? SO OUR ALTERNATIVES, UH, YEAH, OUR ALTERNATIVES WOULD BE THE FORMERLY REQUESTS, THE ABILITY TO CANCEL THE ELECTION AND THEN REESE, AND THEN CALL A NEW ELECTION, UH, IN MAY OR JUST NOT, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DON'T HAVE BRENDA, YOU'LL HAVE TO HELP ME HERE. AND MAYBE YOUR IMA, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD JUST NOT CALL A SPECIAL ELECTION IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN CALLED AND THEN DEAL WITH WHATEVER RAMIFICATIONS THERE ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO THERE'S SOME TECHNICAL STUFF I THINK WE NEED TO, TO GET ANSWERS TO. AND I GOT A THING FROM SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE AND THEY SAID, UH, WE POSTPONED IT. UM, SO YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO CALL IF YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE THE ELECTION, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO CALL IN, OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. SO THAT IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN, THEN IT, THEN IT'S NOT THE, THE, THE HURDLES ARE, ARE LOWER. SO TO SPEAK. IT'S INTERESTING THAT THAT'S THEIR OPINION, BUT THEIR OPINION ALSO IS THAT [02:25:02] WE CAN'T CANCEL IT. AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU RECONCILE THOSE TWO THINGS. AND I THINK WHAT THIS IS INDICATIVE OF IS THAT NOBODY REALLY UNDERSTANDS THE EFFECT OF THE GOVERNOR'S ORDERS. AND, UM, IF THE DIRECTION IS THAT YOU WANT TO HOLD THE CHARTER ELECTION IN MAY, I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH IRMA AND BOTH OF OUR RESOURCES TO COME UP WITH THE PLAN FOR ACHIEVING THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION. YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE THAT WE NEED TO GET SOME KIND OF FORMAL APPROVAL TO DO THIS. I WOULD HATE TO, I WOULD HATE TO HAVE AN ELECTION AND THEN IT CAN BE CHALLENGED, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO IT IN POSTPONEMENT DOING MAY, AND THEN WE COULD, WHATEVER WE DECIDE COULD BE CHALLENGED BECAUSE SOMEBODY COULD SAY IT WASN'T LEGAL, BUT THAT'S A LEGITIMATE POINT, TOM. IT IS. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WE'VE, WE'VE WE HAD DECIDED QUITE CORRECTLY THAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS. AND, AND, AND NOW WE JUST PUSHED IT TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE. WE ASKED THE GOVERNOR FOR SPECIAL DATE. HE TOLD US NO, HE TOLD US NO. SO, SO DO WE THINK THAT ANYTHING WILL BE ANY BETTER IN MAY OF 2021 MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNORS BASICALLY TOLD US TO GO POUND SAND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN MY GUESS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE WOULD TELL US WHAT YOU HAD A CHANCE TO DO IT IN NOVEMBER, AND YOU DIDN'T DO IT THAT WAY. THAT'S A BIGGER LIABILITY TO MY MIND. YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN, THAT, I MEAN, I FORGET ABOUT THE POLITICS OF IT A LITTLE BIT. YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'S A BIGGER LIABILITY TO HIM. YOU HAVE IT. I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THAT. SO, SO, SO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IS AUGUST 11TH ON THAT DAY, YOU KNOW, FIND OUT, WELL, I THINK CHARLES NEEDED DIRECTIONS OR WELL, UH, DEADLINES. SO THE FINAL DECISION ON THE 11TH. SO MAYOR WE CAN MAKE, WELL, I GUESS, HOLD ON A SECOND. I DON'T KNOW. THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF BACKGROUND NOISE ON SOMEBODY'S PHONE. SO IF SOMEBODY IS AWARE OF THAT, IF THEY COULD PLEASE MUTE IT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU. UM, THE, UH, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK BEING ABLE TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON THE 11TH IS HELPFUL. IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE. WE CAN EVEN MAKE A FINAL DECISION. IF WE NEED TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING ON THE 17TH. WHAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL HIS DIRECTION FOR US TO GO IN AND BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE'VE, WE'VE GONE IN THIS DIRECTION. AND THESE, THESE ARE THE, UH, THE FACTS RELATED TO THAT, UH, THAT GUIDANCE OR THAT DIRECTION GIVEN. AND THIS IS WHAT IS, OR ISN'T POSSIBLE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE COUNCIL SAYS WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE, UH, PURSUE A INTELLECTION IN MAY OF 2021 FOR THIS, UH, CHARTER, THEN GIVE US THAT DIRECTION. AND THEN WE WILL GO AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. IF WE CAN'T, WE'LL COME BACK AND TELL YOU. UM, BUT IF, UH, IF, IF WE CAN, THEN WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU HOW, UM, OR IF THERE, IF THE DIRECTION IS LET'S DO THIS IN NOVEMBER OF 2020, WE'LL GO AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND IF WE CAN'T, WE'LL COME AND TELL YOU WHY NOT, AND FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT TO RESOLVE WHATEVER PROBLEMS WE ENCOUNTER. SO I'M GONNA, I'M GOING TO CHANGE MY DIRECTION BASED ON THE YEAH. ON TOM'S COMMENT AND THINKING THAT MORE THROUGH, IN TERMS OF THE, OF, UH, JUST AN OVERALL LIABILITY FOR PUSHING IT. I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PLAN WOULD BE TO GO GET PERMISSION TO BE IN OR BE AUTHORIZED AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, BUT IT JUST SEEMS THAT, UM, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT THE NOVEMBER ELECTION IS PROBABLY A BETTER IDEA PORN, EVEN FOR WEATHER NOVEMBER, MAY I CAN BE COMFORTABLE WITH NOVEMBER. OKAY. OKAY. IF EVERYBODY, IF THE MAJORITY WOULD SAY, WE'D RATHER DO IT IN MAY, SHOULD WE JUST DO OPTION ONE AND FIVE JUST TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE OFFICIAL REQUEST? AND THEN IF WE GET A NO, THEN WE HAVE TO DO WITH NOVEMBER AND BE DONE WITH IT. [02:30:01] THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN. YEAH. THAT WORKS. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I'M GOOD WITH THAT ALSO. GOOD. GOOD. THANK YOU. SO, UH, SO EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH DEF GO DO SOME RESEARCH AND SEE WHETHER WE CAN DO THAT MAY 1ST 20, 21. IF EVERYTHING IS FINE, IT WOULD GO FOR THAT DAY. IS THAT, DID I HEAR CLEARLY? YES. YES. ALL RIGHT. IF NOT, THEN WE DO NOVEMBER 3RD. SO, SO LET BRENDA AND IRMA GO WORK ON THAT. AND THE C AND THE CHARLES C UH, UH, WHAT'S THE, UH, STATE REQUIREMENT, ANY KIND? YEAH. NOVEMBER 3RD IS NOT IDEAL. THEN WE DO MAY 1ST, IS THIS THE DIRECTION YOUR KNEE? I THINK I GOT IT. WHAT I HEARD IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO THE PREFERENCES TO DO IT MAY 1ST 20, 21. IF WE CAN DO THAT, THEN IF WE, IF WE CAN DO THAT BY GETTING THE APPROPRIATE PERMISSIONS, THEN WE'LL PURSUE THAT. IF WE CAN'T, THEN THE DEFAULT IS TO PURSUE IT IN AN ELECTION ON NOVEMBER 3RD, 20 FIGHTS. YOU'LL WANT TO LET US KNOW ON THE 11TH, RIGHT? YES, SIR. YES, WE WILL. WE WILL COME BACK PREPARED TO FACILITATE A COUNCIL DECISION ON THE 11TH. ALL RIGHT. THANKS SO MUCH. YOU KNOW WHAT, SINCE THIS IS ROOM MEETING, IF YOU ALREADY NEED THE RESTROOM OR HAVE A DRINK, YOU JUST GO AHEAD, BUT I'M GOING TO CONTINUE THE MEETING. OKAY. SO [ Announcements and Acknowledgements regarding Town and Council Events and Activities Discussion of Events/Meetings] BEFORE WE OPENED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, I WANT TO INVITE CITY MANAGER, WEST PEARSON GAVE US SOME UPDATES AND SOME ADVANCEMENT MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL JUST REPEAT THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT I MADE DURING THE WORK SESSION. AND THAT IS, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE TODAY MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT DIFFICULT DECISION TO CANCEL THE 20, 20 OKTOBERFEST TODAY. THANKS SO MUCH, GET THEIR THEATER PLAYING THE SAME TIME, BUT I'M GOING TO CONTINUE THE MEETING. OKAY. SO BEFORE WE OPENED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, I WANT TO INVITE, I MEAN, IS THERE A WAY TO MUTE ALL PARTICIPANTS? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PETE. THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT I MADE FOR THE WORK SESSION, UNFORTUNATELY TODAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, JUST A, HEY, A MIRROR. ARE YOU LISTENING TO THIS ON THE WEBSITE? NO, SOMEBODY IS SOMEBODY LISTENING TO THE BROADCAST AS THEY LIST IT AS, AS THERE'S ANOTHER CHANNEL. BUT, UM, SO WE MUTED EVERYBODY SO THAT DOESN'T, WE DON'T HEAR THAT, BUT JUST TO REITERATE, WE DID MAKE THE DECISION AND ANNOUNCED IT EARLIER TODAY TO CANCEL OCTOBER 1ST, 20, 20, THE COVEN, UH, 19 SITUATION. UH, WE, WE WILL MISS HAVING EVERYBODY JOIN US. UM, BUT, UH, WE, WE BELIEVED WAS THE RIGHT DECISION TO MAKE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING PEOPLE COME BACK AND VISIT US IN 2021. SO UNTIL THEN POST Y'ALL, THAT'S ALL Y'ALL LOST BUTTON. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. [ Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to public hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.] UH, HAMAD ARMA. I WAS TOLD WE HAVE A YES. I'M SORRY. YES, SIR. I HAVE AN EMAIL, UH, TO READ, READY TO ALLOW ME TO SPEAK, THEN I'M READY TO GO. ALRIGHT. OKAY. WAIT THE FIRST, UM, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO MY EMAIL AND THEN WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE STANDING BY TO SPEAK, UH, BOB HECKMAN AND KATHERINE. SO BOB AND, UH, KATHERINE WAKES. YES, SIR. WHEN THEY DO THAT, SAY A STANDARD NAME AND THE ADDRESS. OKAY. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ THE EMAIL NOW, MARIN COUNCIL, UH, FROM JIM ROBINSON FROM AT ONE FOUR SEVEN, NINE, FIVE BUCKINGHAM COURT AND ADDISON, WE'RE ON SOME VERY DANGEROUS EVENTS WITHIN OAKS NORTH, WHICH HAVE BEEN AND WILL BE FURTHER ADDRESSED THIS EVENING. I AM REQUESTING INSTALLATION [02:35:01] AND OPERATIONAL MAINTENANCE OF VIDEO RECORDING CAMERAS, STRATEGICALLY PLACED SIGNS IN AND AROUND OAKS NORTH AS WELL AS ALONG CELESTIAL AND THE PARK INSTALLATION AND MAINTENANCE OF ENHANCED LED LIGHTING ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF CELESTIAL REMOVAL OF CYPRUS ON CELESTIAL BEHIND THE OAKS NORTH HOME AT 1476 ONE BELVEDERE COURT. IT IS TOO INVITING FOR SOMEONE TO CLIMB OVER THE WALL EVALUATION OF THE COST TO HAVE OFF DUTY POLICE OR PRIVATE SECURITY PRESENCE AFTER DARK. MY ONLY OTHER NOTE TO COUNSEL IS THE ADDISON'S GREAT REPUTATION, TOOK A LONG TIME TO ESTABLISH, BUT WILL BE LOST QUICKLY IF WE DON'T GET THE SITUATION FIXED QUICKLY. FINALLY, THANK YOU, COUNCIL WEST CENSORED STAFF FOR YOUR WORK ON OUR BEHALF SIGNED JIM ROBINSON. THANK YOU. AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE, UH, BOB HECKMAN AND HIS NUMBER, HIS LAST FOUR DIGITS ON HIS NUMBER IS ONE, TWO EIGHT FOUR. MR. HECKMAN, WILL YOU PLEASE ANNOUNCE, UH, THAT YOU'RE READY TO SPEAK AND PRESENT YOUR, UH, GIVE YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE? YES, THIS IS BOB HECKMAN. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES. ALRIGHT. UH, WE LIVE AT ONE FOUR SEVEN SEVEN SIX MAIDEN COURT, UH, SANDY AND I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 27 YEARS. UH, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AT YOUR MEETING TONIGHT. UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL INCIDENTS IN OAKS NORTH OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS, INCLUDING A VERY SCARY ARMED ROBBERY ON APRIL 28TH. AS A RESULT OF THAT INCIDENT IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE FORMED A NEIGHBORHOOD CAPTAIN PROGRAM, VERY SIMILAR TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM THAT WE'VE SEEN IN, IN OTHER AREAS. AND THE GOAL IS TO QUICKLY ALERT OUR 118 NEIGHBORS WHEN AN INCIDENT OCCURS. SO IF THEY GET INFORMATION IS ACCURATE, AS WE CAN GIVE IT TO THEM QUICKLY, WE HAVE 11 CAPTAINS REPRESENTING THESE 118 HOMES IN PREPARATION FOR, I ASKED THEM FOR THEIR TOP SAFETY AND SECURITY REQUESTS OF THE TOWN. WHILE RECOGNIZING THAT WE AS HOMEOWNERS DO HAVE A ROLE IN THIS BY KEEPING OUR SECURITY CAMERAS ON OUR SECURITY SYSTEMS ON, IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING, COMMUNICATE QUICKLY, ET CETERA, THEIR TOP FOUR, AS THEY SOLICITED THEIR NEIGHBORS IN THOSE CERTAIN ORDER OR CAMERAS THAT ARE ENTRANCES, UH, BOTH AT MUNFORD AND BELTLINE AND CELESTIAL PARK, SECOND IMPROVE LIGHTING IN THE COMMON AREAS AND ON CELESTIAL ROAD, AS IT BACKS UP TO OAKS NORTH, UH, THE LIGHTING IS UNDERWAY IN SEVERAL OF OUR AREAS. WE DO APPRECIATE THAT AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE ANY EXPEDITION THAT YOU CAN DO, UH, ON THE LIGHTING AND THE OTHER AREAS. THIRD, UH, THEY REQUEST, WE REQUEST SIGNAGE SUCH AS A NO, YOU TURN SIGN AT THE ENTRANCE ON MUNFORD. THERE ARE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT COME IN TO AVOID THE LIGHT AND DO A U-TURN, WHICH IS BOTH DANGEROUS AS WE, UH, HAD EVIDENCED BY THREE OF OUR MAILBOXES BEING WIPED OUT AND THE FRONT ENTRANCE, UH, MONUMENT WIPED OUT BY PEOPLE COMING INTO THE AREA. SO, UH, SIGNING SUCH AS NO U-TURN SIGNS THAT SAY 24 HOUR SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS IN THE AREA, WE THINK WOULD ALL BE A GOOD DETERRENT. AND THEN FINALLY, UH, POLICE DRIVE THROUGHS, UH, WE'VE TALKED TO, UH, WEST PEARSON AND, UH, POLICE, CHIEF SPENCER. THEY KNOW HOW STRONGLY WE FEEL ON THAT. I HAVE NOTICED, AND MY NEIGHBORS HAVE NOTICED, UH, MORE FREQUENT DRIVE-BYS. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. WE JUST ASK THAT WE KEEP THAT UP. AS I MENTIONED, OUR NEIGHBORS ARE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT SAFETY AND SECURITY, AND WE RECOGNIZE OUR ROLE. AS I MENTIONED, TURNING ON ALARM SYSTEMS, INSTALLING CAMERAS, DIGITIZING THE, UH, THE VIDEO SO THAT THE POLICE CAN GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THEM, WHICH WAS VERY HELPFUL IN THE ARMED ROBBERY, UH, THAT WE HAD AND OUR FORMATION OF THE CAPTAIN PROGRAM. BUT WE DO NEED YOUR ONGOING HELP AND SUPPORT WITH THE CAMERAS, LIGHTING, SIGNAGE AND POLICE PATROLS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CATHERINE. YES, THIS IS CATHERINE LEAKS. CAN YOU HEAR ME? ALL RIGHT. GREAT. UM, I LIVE AT ONE 47 66 MAIDEN COURT, MY HUSBAND, BOB AND I HAVE BEEN ATTITUDE RESIDENTS FOR OVER 20 YEARS. MY COMMENTS ARE FOCUSED ON SAFETY AND SECURITY, JUST LIKE BOBS IN OAKS, NORTH ON APRIL 4TH, 2019. HE JUST BROKE INTO OUR HOME AT 2:00 AM WHILE WE WERE ASLEEP UPSTAIRS, THEY STOLE [02:40:01] A COMPANY LAPTOP CREDIT CARDS AT TEXTBOOK. THEY ATTEMPTED TO USE THE CREDIT CARD AT SEVEN 11 AND THE AVERAGE AND WALMART. THEY ALSO HAD INTO OUR BANK DESPITE VERY CLEAR SURVEILLANCE VIDEO FROM WALMARTS AND FINGERPRINTS FROM OUR HOME POLICE DEPARTMENT MADE NO PROGRESS. PLEASE REPORT 19 DASH ONE, TWO 44 IS CLOSED WITHOUT RESOLUTION ON JUNE 12TH. THIS YEAR, OUR HOME WAS ROBBED. AGAIN, MY PURSE WAS STOLEN FROM OUR GARAGE AT 9:00 PM. THE THIEF WAS STALKING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AGAIN, THE POLICE INVESTIGATED AFTER THE CRIME WAS COMMITTED. POLICE REPORT 20 DASH ONE SEVEN FIVE FIVE REMAINS OPEN WITH NO LEADS, SAFETY AND SECURITY IS THE CLIMBING AND OAKS. NORTH OAKS NORTH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION HAS SUBMITTED A LETTER TO CONSOLE DATED JUNE 25TH. THE LETTER OUTLINED OTHER REASON CRIMES COMMITTED IN OAKS. NORTH ACTION. HOMEOWNERS ARE TAKING TO IMPROVE SECURITY. AS BOB MENTIONED, AND THREE SPECIFIC REQUESTS FOR THE CITY INSTALLED VIDEO CAMERAS, POST VIDEO SURVEILLANCE, SIGNAGE, AND INSTALL LED LIGHTING ALONG CELESTIAL DRIVE. MY REQUEST FOR COUNCIL IS TO CONSIDER THE SECURITY REQUESTS IN THE 20 2021 BUDGET CYCLE AND TO ADD OAK SNORE SECURITY TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, CAN WE ASK THE CITY MAYOR, DO YOU MIND IF WE ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO COMMENT ON THESE? SURE. SO I WOULD CAUTION THAT THIS IS NOT A POSTED AGENDA ITEM. AND SO UNDER THE RULES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON NONPOSTED ITEMS, WE CAN, UM, LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE CAN MAKE A DECISION ABOUT PLACING IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA. UM, I'M CONCERNED UNLESS THERE ARE FACTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE GIVEN PURE FACT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO COMPLY WITH OPEN MEETINGS ACT, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. WELL, BRENDA, I APPRECIATE YOUR COUNSEL ON THAT. AND I AGREE THAT I, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN VIOLATING THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. HOWEVER, I THINK THAT THERE ARE CLEAR FACTS THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN, THAT CAN SPEAK TO WITH RESPECT TO, UM, THE, UM, UM, THE RECORDS, UH, HOW MANY, HOW MANY COSTS FOR SERVICES, WHAT IS THE POLICE PRESENCE STAIR AND, AND THE HIS EFFORTS TO, TO SPEAK TO RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA, UM, THAT THAT DIDN'T NEED TO BE, THAT I THINK WERE APPROPRIATE TO BE PLACED ON THE RECORD. AND, AND, AND, AND BECAUSE WE HAVE COMMENTS IN A VACUUM HERE AND COMMENTS THAT SUGGEST THAT THE POLICE DON'T SHOW UP THAT MADE THE CIRCLE AND, AND, AND OAKS NORTH IN GENERAL IS A HOTBED OF CRIME. AND, AND I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW, IS THAT, IS THAT TRUE? AND SO THAT'S THE KIND OF RESPONSE THAT I'M SEEKING FROM, FROM THE CITY MANAGER. AND IF THAT'S PERMISSIBLE, THEN I'D LIKE TO, TO PROCEED WITH THAT. WELL, I THINK THE, THE ACT AND THE OPINIONS THAT PERTAIN TO PUBLIC COMMENT REALLY DEAL WITH DIRECTING THE COMMENT OR TO A SPECIFIC ORDINANCE OR TO A SPECIFIC STAFF PERSON, NOT ALLOWING A STAFF REPORT AS A FOLLOWUP TO THE COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE. YEAH, PAUL, PAUL, AND I THINK IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE. UH, WE CAN, UH, PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING IN AUGUST, AUGUST 11TH. SO WE CAN HAVE A WORK SESSION, TALK ABOUT IT. WE HAVE, WE HAVE DONE, UH, CHIP SPENCER CAN TELL US MORE IN DETAIL ABOUT HOW THEY HANDLE IT, YOU KNOW, CORRECT WAY. SO, UH, I THINK IT'S MORE PRO [02:45:06] WELL, THEN I THINK THEN, THEN WE OUGHT TO PROCEED IN THAT MANNER THEN MAYOR. YEAH, I THINK IT'S CAN, CAN, CAN YOU OPEN RECORD RULES? AND IN THE MEANTIME WE HAVE A, QUITE A DANCY, UH, AGENDA HERE, SO, SO LET'S DO THAT. ALRIGHT. PAUL IRMA, ANY MORE RESIDENTS CALLING? NO, SIR. THAT IS IT. ALRIGHT, I'M GOING TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. I HAVE AN ITEM NINE 11, 12, 13, TOTALLY FIVE ITEMS. ANYTHING IT SHOULD BE CALLED MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 13. ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR NUMBER NINE, 10, 11, 12. [ Consent Agenda: All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.] DO I HAVE MOTION TOM BROWN AND LORI WARD SECONDED. OKAY. SO TOM MADE A MOTION, LAURIE SECONDED ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THOSE FOUR ITEMS, ITEM EIGHT, NINE, 10, 11, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. INCLUDED 12, RIGHT? SO NINE, 10, 11, 12. [13. Consider Action to Approve Change Order #2 to the Contract with JC Commercial, Inc. for Costs Related to Unforeseen Site Conditions for the United States Customs and Border Protection Facility at Addison Airport and Authorize the City Manager to Execute the Change Order in an Amount Not to Exceed $141,881.10. ] SO ITEM 13, GQ. THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYOR. I PULL THIS, UH, THIS ITEM BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ON IT. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S, THERE WERE SEVERAL QUESTIONS, UH, POSED TO STAFF, A HEAD OF TIME FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A LITTLE, MY HEAD WRAPPED AROUND A COUPLE OF THE ITEMS THERE I HAD. UH, I HAD ALSO PUT IN SOME QUESTIONS AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE GIVE IT SOME ANSWERS OR AT LEAST SOME CLARIFICATION ON ONE OF THE RESPONSES AND THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR GETTING, GIVING THESE, UH, RESPONSES TO US EARLY TODAY, TOO. I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M SURE THAT, UH, WORKED TIRELESSLY ON THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. UH, ON AN ITEM, ONE OF THE ITEMS ON, ON 13 IS ABOUT, ABOUT THE SUPPORT SYSTEM THAT'S BEING USED IN THE ELEVATOR. UH, THAT'S BEING DESIGNED. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE SIMILAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE STRUCTURAL DEFICIENCIES THAT WERE DISCOVERED AND, UH, PERHAPS REVIEW THE RFI PROCESS YOU USE TO IMPLEMENT THE FIX. I THINK THAT MIGHT, UH, MIGHT HELP OUT A BIT. WHAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THESE SKETCHES ARE, ARE INVOLVED, UH, FOR THE FIXED OR THE IMPROVEMENT. LET'S CALL IT UPGRADE, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THIS, UH, STRUCTURE IS SECURE AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING OUR MONEY'S WORKED ON THIS. SO A COUNCIL MEMBER, KEITH, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. HELP ME CLARIFY, PLEASE. WELL, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE RESPONSES, MY QUESTION HERE WAS WHAT WERE THE SPECIFIC MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED TO COMPLETE MODIFICATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ELEVATOR INSTALLATION AND THE RESPONSE TO THAT FROM, FROM, FROM THE STAFF, I'D LIKE THEM TO ELABORATE ON THAT RESPONSE SPECIFICALLY, I'D LIKE TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS STRUCTURAL DEFICIENCY WAS DISCOVERED, REVIEW THE RFI PROCESS YOU TO IMPLEMENT THIS FIX. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO I WILL, I'LL READ THE STAFF RESPONSE AND THEN I'LL HAVE A JOEL JENKINSON, UH, IN ANSWERING THE TWO QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE JUST ASKED, UM, TO HOPEFULLY PROVIDE THAT CLARIFICATION. OKAY. SO THE RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION WAS WHEN THE ELEVATORS MANUFACTURERS, WHEN THE ELEVATOR MANUFACTURERS SHOP DRAWINGS WERE SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW, THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER NOTICED THE MANUFACTURER REQUIRED INTERMEDIATE RAIL SUPPORTS DUE TO THE HEIGHT OF THE ELEVATOR. THE ELEVATOR SHAFT ENCLOSURE WAS INTENDED TO BE BUILT USING DRYWALL AND METAL STUD FRAMING THAT CANNOT MEET THE LOAD REQUIREMENTS. THE INTERMEDIATE RAILS, THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER REQUIRED [02:50:01] ADDITIONAL STEEL ALONG EACH RAIL SUPPORT. THIS ADDED, STILL REQUIRED MINOR MODIFICATION OF OTHER DIRECTLY ADJACENT STEEL MEMBERS THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN FABRICATED AND PARTIALLY ERECTED. ALSO DUE TO THE LOCATION AND PURPOSE OF THIS, OF THESE STEEL RAIL SUPPORTS, THEY HAD TO BE INSTALLED TO VERY TIGHT TOLERANCES TO MEET THE ELEVATOR MANUFACTURERS REQUIREMENTS AND AVOID VIBRATION ISSUES DURING FUTURE OPERATION. NOW, THE TWO SUBSEQUENT QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED, WHEN WAS THIS, UH, DISCOVERED AND WHAT WAS THE RFI PROCESS I'LL, UH, ASK JOEL JENKINSON TO CONTRIBUTE HIS ANSWERS TO THIS AMERICAN COUNCIL. THIS IS JOEL JENKINSON, AIRPORT DIRECTOR. UM, THE PROCESS BEGAN, UH, WITH ACTUALLY ON THE DESIGN BASIS OF DESIGN FOR THE ELEVATOR USED A TYSON CRUX ELEVATOR. UH, BUT THAT WAS NOT SPECIFIED BECAUSE YOU CANNOT SOLE SOURCE A PARTICULAR MODEL OF THE ELEVATOR IN YOUR BID DOCUMENTS. SO THEY WROTE A SLIGHTLY MORE GENERIC, UH, ELEVATOR DESIGN. AND THAT WAS NOT COUPLED TIGHTLY WITH THE, UH, STRUCTURAL STEELS. SO, UH, THE CONTRACTOR ON NOVEMBER 20TH OF 2019, UH, SUBMITTED, THEY ARE, UH, OR THEY PROVIDE A SUBMITTAL FOR THE ELEVATOR, WHICH WAS AN OTIS ELEVATOR. SO THAT WAS NOT THE ELEVATOR THAT WAS USED FOR THE BASIS OF DESIGN, THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER FOR PAGE, UH, REVIEWED THAT SUBMITTAL. AND THAT'S WHEN THEY DISCOVERED THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE ADDITIONAL STEEL BRACING THAT, UH, WAS DUE TO THE, UH, HEIGHT OF THE ELEVATOR SHAFT. AND, UH, THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE NEGOTIATION AND DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, THAT I THINK THE ENGINEERS HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE CONTRACTOR OF WHETHER THEY COULD USE A THYSSENKRUPP ELEVATOR AND FORGO THAT, AND THAT WOULD HAVE ADDED MORE COSTS. THEY LOOKED AT OTHER, UH, STRUCTURAL, UH, SOLUTIONS, BUT EVENTUALLY THEY SETTLED ON JUST THE ADDITIONAL STEEL AS A, AS A CHANGE ORDER THAT WAS REQUIRED TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE OTIS ELEVATOR, WHICH DOES MEET THE ELEVATOR SPEC. BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST THE BASIS OF DESIGN WAS A DIFFERENT ELEVATOR, UH, AND THAT, UH, ADDITIONAL STEEL THAT WAS REQUIRED BY ANOTHER ELEVATOR THAT MEETS THE SAME SPEC WAS NOT PICKED UP AT THAT POINT. AND SO THAT WAS THE REVIEW WAS, WAS TRIGGERED BY, UH, THE SUBMITTAL FROM THE CONTRACTOR, STRUCTURAL ENGINEER REVIEWED THAT DESIGN AND THEY AGREED THAT THEY HAD TO, UH, ISSUE TO CHANGE FOR THE ADDITIONAL STEEL. AND THAT WAS, UH, AFTER CONSIDERABLE NEGOTIATION WITH THE CONTRACTOR ON WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. JOEL, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? I'M A LITTLE, I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT, I MEAN, I'VE DONE A LOT OF ELEVATORS AND I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR FOR STRUCTURAL BRACING BACK FOR THE RAILS OF THE ELEVATOR. SO I'M A LITTLE, I MEAN, I CAN SEE THAT IT MIGHT'VE BEEN MISSED ON THE PLANS, BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY BUY THAT CHANGING FROM THYSSENKRUPP TO OTIS. WASN'T AN ACTUAL REASON. UM, BUT I DID SEE IN, IN THEIR RESPONSES THAT THEY ASKED ABOUT SOME, THERE MUST'VE BEEN SOME VERBIAGE. I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF IT, BUT IT TALKS ABOUT THEY'RE ASKING THEIR, THE GC TO REVIEW NOTES, GNH FROM THE ELEVATOR GENERAL NOTES ON SAY FOUR ON A FOUR 41. AND I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER, WHATEVER CAME OF THAT, MY GUESS IS THERE'S PROBABLY SOME, I SEE THESE THINGS ALL THE TIME. THERE'S ALWAYS A GENERAL NOTE, UM, FOR THE GC THAT HE HAS TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE SOME ITEMS TO MAKE A, MAKE A SYSTEM WORK OR WHATEVER, AND IT'S HIS RESPONSIBILITY. UM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY WANT? THOSE TWO NOTES SAID? UH, NO, SIR, I DOC YOU ARE WAY OUT OF MY KNOWLEDGE AREA. UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS BEING A, UH, A REMOTE MEETING, I, IF, IF, IF I HAD, IF THERE HAD BEEN AN ORDINARY MEETING, I WOULD HAVE ASKED THE ENGINEER TO SHOW UP. I DO KNOW THAT ONE OF THE ENGINEERS IS AT LEAST FOLLOWING THE MEETING, BUT I DON'T KNOW OF A WAY TO PATCH HIM INTO AN ANSWER. ANY QUESTIONS IS THERE IT'S THERE'S I DON'T KNOW. I, TO ME, IS IT, WOULD IT BE A BIG PROBLEM IF WE TABLE THIS TILL THE NEXT MEETING? SO WE HAVE SOME TIME TO REVIEW SOME OF THIS STUFF. IF IT'S NOT A PROBLEM, I WOULD, I MEAN, IT'S THE STUFF'S ALREADY DONE. WE JUST NEED THIS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD IT'S ME, I'D RECOMMEND JUST TABLING IT. AND THEN THAT WAY WE HAVE SOME TIME TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS. CAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE AND I THINK GQ HAS AS WELL [02:55:01] ON SOME OTHER ITEMS. UM, GOOD. I PROPOSE TO DO THAT. YES, TOM. I THINK THAT'S, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH SOMETHING BY ALL MEANS, LET'S SAY SECOND 90 DEGREE I'LL SUPPORT THAT. ALTHOUGH YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION, DOES IT CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS? NO. I WANT TO BE CLEAR HERE. I W I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OR ANY OF THAT OF WHAT'S BEING DEVELOPED. WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS THAT WAS USED TO BRING THIS TO LIGHT SO THAT WE CAN AVOID THIS IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THE TOWN NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO AVOID THIS. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN ENGINEER THAT CAN HELP US TO VOICES AND CAN HELP US NEGOTIATE. THESE CHALLENGES IS IF WE DON'T HAVE AN ENGINEER THAT CAN DO THAT AND WE HAVE TO FIND ONE. SO AGAIN, I DON'T SEE ANY CHALLENGES WITH ANY KIND OF SAFETY. I'M NOT CHALLENGING THAT AT ALL. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND A PROCESS, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SOUND AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T FALL INTO THESE HOLES OR GAPS AGAIN, THAT CLEAR. ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THIS ITEM 13, THAT TOM MADE MOTION MODERN SECONDARY. IS THAT CORRECT? I WILL. I THINK I ACTUALLY SECOND IT I'LL PAUSE ACTUALLY. YEAH. CALM AND EMOTION. CAUSE SECONDARY FAVOR TO POSTPONE THIS TO AUGUST 11TH. THEY AYE. I I THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANKS. GIVE ME A SECOND. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT, ALRIGHT. ITEM 14 [14. Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Amending Article XIX. UC Urban Center District Regulations by Revising Section 2.C. Conditional Uses. Case 1802-Z/Town of Addison.] ON THE POVERTY HEARING, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ORDINANCE AMENDING ARTICLE 19 URBAN CENTER, DISTRICT REGULATIONS, REVISING ACTION TO SPEAK. CONDITIONAL USES CASE Y Z PAUL BATESON. UM, CHARLES. YES, GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL CHARLES GOLF DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, BUT THIS IS A TEXT CHANGE TO THE URBAN CENTER, A ZONING DISTRICT STANDARDS. AND THAT'S THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT APPLIES TO THE ADDISON CIRCLE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THIS IS MAKING CHANGES TO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR OVERNIGHT PET BOARDING. CURRENTLY OVERNIGHT PET BOARDING REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND IS ALLOWED ON ANY PROPERTY. THAT'S ZONED ONE OF THE TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS OR IN ANY OF THE OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS ON A SITE LARGER THAN FIVE ACRES. AND THAT'S AN OLD STANDARD FROM A TIME WHEN YOU WOULD KINDLE DOGS OUTDOORS. AND SO YOU WOULD WANT THE LARGE PROPERTY TO ACCOUNT FOR NOISE, AND THEN YOU SMELLED ASSOCIATED WITH A LARGE NUMBER OF DOGS, BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED AND WE DON'T, UH, KEEP DOGS OUTSIDE ANYMORE AND KENNELS LIKE WE USED TO. UH, AND SO, UH, THAT THAT'S NO LONGER NECESSARY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INDOOR KENNEL. AND SO, UH, THIS IS A SIMPLE AMENDMENT THAT WOULD, UH, AMEND THE URBAN CENTER STANDARDS. THE STAYS THAT OVERNIGHT PET BOARDING WOULD BE ALLOWED AGAIN WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, REGARDLESS OF THE PROPERTY SIZE, WHICH WOULD EFFECTIVELY ALLOW IT TO BE AN OPTION FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, UH, THIS USE IN THE ADDISON CIRCLE AREAS AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HEARD THIS REQUEST AT THEIR JUNE MEETING AND RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO NO CONDITIONS. CHARLES, IS THIS NOT BASICALLY THE SAME THING THAT THEY HAVE OVER TRUEBEAM NOW? YES. THAT'S HOW WE TREATED IT FOR TRIVIA. AND WE AMENDED THEIR PD TO DO THE SAME THING. ANY MORE QUESTION ON THIS ONE, CHARLES, IS THIS YEAH, I DO MAYOR IN THIS FOR CHARLES, IS THIS PART OF, IS THIS REVISION AND THIS OLD THINKING OF WE NEED FIVE ACRES FOR A WHOLE BUNCH OF DOGS OUTSIDE BEING REVIEWED AND CORRECTED FOR THE MODERN TIME. IT IS SO IN A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT [03:00:01] CODE, THE DRAFT STANDARDS FOR OUTDOOR OR OVERBOARDING WILL HAVE SEPARATE STANDARDS FOR INDOOR PET BOARDING AND OUTDOOR PET BOARDING. SO IF IT'S OUTDOOR GO RETAIN SOME OF THOSE, UM, CONSIDERATIONS FOR, UH, CREATING THAT SEPARATION FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES. BUT IF IT'S INDOORS AS A RELATIVELY FEWER REQUIREMENTS, THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTION? SO LET GENTLEMEN DECIDE TO HAVE, IS LISTED THE POVERTY HEARING ANYWAY IN POVERTY, WHICH DOES SPEAK ON THIS SIDE. PLEASE DO. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY CALL, YOU FEEL LIKE TOO, OR I'M OUT THE WAY HAVE ANYBODY CALLING? NO, SIR. I DID NOT RECEIVE ANYTHING AT ALL OR ANY, UM, ANY, UM, PHONE CALLS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ALSO? NO MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE AS SUBMITTED. NO, WAIT A MOMENT. LET ME CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. DOESN'T KNOW, PROBABLY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. I HEAR BY CROWS ABOUT HEARING BY THE MOTION FROM VOLUME WILSON. SECOND, FA I WILL USE ALL YOU FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS. ALRIGHT, 10 TO 15, 16, 16 IT'S 15. ALRIGHT, [15. Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Changing the Zoning on Property Located at 15530 Quorum Drive, Which Property is Currently Zoned Urban Center, UC, by Approving a Special Use Permit for Overnight Pet Boarding. Case 1803-SUP/Pappy’s Pet Lodge.] HOLD A POVERTY HEARING. PRESENT, DISCUSS AN ORDINANCE. CHANGING THE ZONING PROPERTY LOCATED AT CORE ON DRIVE PROPERTY IS COMING TO LEAD ZONED URBAN CENTER. YOU'LL SEE, PROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMITS FOR OVERNIGHT POPPIES PADLOCK, CHARLES CITY EVENING AGAIN, MAN COUNCIL, CHARLES GOLF DIRECTED RELEVANT SERVICES. SO IN THE LAST ITEM WE JUST GAVE THE TOWN THE ABILITY TO CONSIDER A SPECIAL USE PERMITS FOR OVERNIGHT BOARDING, BUT THEN THE ADDISON CIRCLE AREA AND THIS ITEM WE'RE NOW, UM, CONTEMPLATING APPROVING SUCH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR COPIES PET LODGE. PATTY'S PET LODGE HAS BEEN DOING, UM, DAYCARE FOR DOGS AT HIS CURRENT LOCATIONS, UH, SINCE 2014. UH, AND THEY'RE NOW REQUESTING THE ABILITY TO ADD OVERNIGHT BOARD. AND THIS IS THEIR ONLY LOCATION IN THE METROPLEX THAT DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE OVERNIGHT BOARDING, BUT TO DO SO THEY WOULD NOT MAKE ANY STRUCTURAL CHANGES OR EXPAND THEIR SPACE. THEY WOULD SIMPLY ADD, UM, SIX DOUBLE STACK KENNELS TO THE EXISTING DAYCARE ROOM. UH, IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT THE SPACE ALREADY HAS DOWN FOOD INSTALLATION. UH, AND WE CHECKED WITH, UH, THE PROPERTY MANAGER AND THE PROPERTY MANAGER NOR THE TOWN HAD ANY RECORD OF ANY NOISE COMPLAINTS, UH, FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE SPACE, UH, SINCE, UH, PEPYS PET LODGE OPENED IN 2014. SO WE DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE ANY DETRIMENT TO ALLOWING FOR THE OVERNIGHT KEEPING OF DOGS. AGAIN, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HEARD THIS AT THEIR JUNE MEETING AND THEY RECOMMENDED FOR, FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO NO CONDITIONS. ANY QUESTION DISCUSSION. SO LADIES, GENTLEMEN, THIS ITEM IS LISTED AS PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL. IF ANYONE IN PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE DO SO ARE MY ZEN ANYBODY CALLING? NO, SIR. I HAVE NOTHING AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO THERE'S NO ONE IN PUBLIC CALLING. SO I HEAR BY CROWS, THE POVERTY HEARING. AND DO I HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM? I MOVE TO APPROVE. I LIKE THE SECOND THAT MIRROR I HAVE MANUEL SUBMIT A MOTION AND A SECONDED ALL IN FAVOR. SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT. ITEM [16. Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Changing the Zoning on Property Located at 3765 Belt Line Rd, Which Property is Currently Zoned PD, Planned Development, Through Ordinance O92-037, by Approving a Special Use Permit for a New Restaurant. Case 1813-SUP/Duck Donuts.] 16, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON ORDINANCE. CHANGING THE ZONING ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 37 65, WHICH PROBABLY IS CUT INTO THE ZONE PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT. SO ORDINANCE ZERO NINE TWO ZERO THREE SEVEN, BUT APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR NEW RESTAURANT CASE NUMBER ONE EIGHT ONE THREE AS CUPE DOC DONUTS, CHARLES, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL CHARLES GOUGH DIRECTED RELEVANT [03:05:01] SERVICES THAT DUCK DONUTS IS AN EXISTING RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT AT 37 65 BELTLINE ROAD. AND I SAY RETAIL, BECAUSE IF A FOOD SERVICE BUSINESS DOESN'T HAVE ANY SEATING FOR ON PREMISE DINING, IT'S NOT TREATED FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE AS A RESTAURANT AND THEREFORE IT DOESN'T NEED A SUP WHEN DUCK DONUTS FIRST DECIDED TO COME TO ADDISON, THEY MADE A DECISION AS THEY WERE DOING THEIR FINISH OUT AND TRYING TO OPEN THAT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE ANY TABLES AND CHAIRS IN ORDER TO NOT HAVE TO WAIT TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS AND GET THEIR SUP BEFORE OPENING. NOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN OPEN FOR A WHILE, IT WAS A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD SEATING. AND SO THEY'RE NOW COMING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO ASK FOR APPROVAL OF AN SUV, TO BE A RESTAURANT. UH, AGAIN, THERE'D BE NO STRUCTURAL CHANGES HERE. THEY'RE SIMPLY ADDING 15 SEATS INSIDE AND FOUR CHAIRS OUTSIDE. UH IT'S AGAIN, JUST TO HAVE SOME, SOME PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GRAB A DONUT AND COFFEE AND SIT DOWN IF THEY WANT TO. I'M CHANGING THE DESIGNATION OF THIS USE FROM A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT TO A RESTAURANT DOES HAVE A PARKDALE HIGHER PARKING REQUIREMENT. HOWEVER, THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING ON THE SITE TO COMPLY WITH PARKING STANDARDS. UH, AND SO THERE'S NO ISSUE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING HEARD THIS REQUEST AND THEY RECOMMEND IT FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO NO CONDITIONS, DISCUSSION. I THINK THEY NEED THESE SEATS I'M SUPPORTIVE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND HOPEFULLY WILL EMERGE FROM THIS AGE OF COVID CENTER. AND THEN WE CAN DO MORE THAN TAKE OUT. ALRIGHT, LADIES, GENTLEMEN, THIS ITEM IS LIST AS POVERTY HEARING AS WELL. IF ANYONE IN PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, YOU CAN CALL YOU NOW IRMA CALLING. I HAVE NO ONE THAT'S CALLED, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO THERE'S NO WAY IN PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. AND I HEAR BY COES AND PAPA HEARING, GIVE THEM ALL LINES ARE OPEN WHERE ALRIGHT. NO MORE DISCUSSION. SO DO I HAVE MOTION SECOND, SECOND. WHAT'S THAT THEN I CAN'T HEAR WHO MADE A SECOND. IT WAS MARLIN ON A SECOND. I APOLOGIZE. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. ITEM [17. Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Changing the Zoning on Property Located at 5290 Belt Line Road, Suite 105, Which Property is Currently Zoned PD, Planned Development, Through Ordinance O19-22, by Approving a Special Use Permit for a New Restaurant with the Sale of Alcoholic Beverages for on Premises Consumption Only. Case 1814-SUP/Mendocino Farms.] 17. HOLD A PAPA HEARING. PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON ORDINANCE CHANGING THE ZONING ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 52 90 BELTLINE ROAD, SUITE ONE OH FIVE, WHICH PAUL THREE IS CONE TO THE ZONE, THE PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT. SO ORDINANCE ZERO ONE NINE 22, BUT PROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR NEW RESTAURANT WITH THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR ON PREMISE CONSUMPTION ONLY CHRIS NUMBER ONE EIGHT ONE FOUR S UOP MADDOW, CHINO FARMS, CHARLES, LAST ONE FOR ME, MAYOR AND COUNCIL CHARLES GOLF DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THE COUNCIL MAY RECALL THAT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, THE COUNCIL APPROVED A ZONING CHANGE SPECIFICALLY TO MAJOR RENOVATION OF THE SHOPPING CENTER AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF BELTLINE. AND MONFORT AS PART OF THAT REINVISIONING OF THE PROPERTY. THE FORMER SURGEON SERVICE MERCHANDISE BUILDING IS BEING REPURPOSED INTO AN OFFICE BUILDING WITH RETAIL AND RESTAURANT SPACES ON THE FIRST FLOOR. MENDOCINO FARMS IS A RESTAURANT CONCEPT THAT'S PROPOSING TO OCCUPY ONE OF THOSE NEW RESTAURANT SPACES THAT'S BEING CREATED. MENDOCINO FARMS IS A FAST CASUAL SANDWICH RESTAURANT FROM CALIFORNIA THAT HAS RECENTLY STARTED TO EXPAND INTO THE NORTH TEXAS MARKET. THEY'RE REQUESTING A SPECIALTY PRODUCT TO BE A RESTAURANT WITH A SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION ONLY. AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO OCCUPY A 3,795 SQUARE FEET, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE AN APPROXIMATELY 700 SQUARE FOOT OUTDOOR PATIO, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THAT A SMALL PUBLIC OR PRIVATE GREEN SPACE THAT THEY'RE CREATING IN THE CENTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HEARD THIS REQUEST AT THEIR JUNE 16TH MEETING AND RE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE TOWN STANDARD CONDITION OR THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD NOT USE THE TERMS OR GRAPHIC DEPICTIONS THAT RELATE TO THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN THEIR EXTERIOR SIGNAGE. YOU HAVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, CHARLES. YES, SIR. WE LIKE WHEN YOU BRING THESE THINGS [03:10:01] TO US, I'LL KEEP BRINGING THEM IF I CAN. OKAY. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, ABOUT THE RESTAURANT AND THEIR FAIR? I KNOW IT'S, IT'S SANDWICHED AND OTHER SEMI-HEALTHY FOODS, BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT THE OWNER CALLED IN AND MAYBE ABLE TO SPEAK BETTER TO THE CONCEPT THAN I COULD. I DON'T KNOW IF HE HUNG AROUND OR NOT. I SAID, YES, HE'S HERE. YEAH, I'M HERE. ALRIGHT. UM, I LIKE TO INVITE THE OWNER SPEAK AFTER THAT OPENED UP THE POVERTY HEARING. HOW'S THAT? OKAY. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS ITEM IS LISTED AS A POVERTY HEARING. IF ANYONE IN PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE DO SO. SO SIR, STATE YOUR NAME AND THE ADDRESS YOU CAN BEGIN. 2016 LIMESTONE DRIVE, GEORGETOWN, TEXAS. UM, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN FOR MENDOCINO FARMS. AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UH, WE CONSIDER OURSELVES VERY UPSCALE, FAST CASUAL, UH, IT'S REALLY CHEF-DRIVEN, UH, SALADS AND SANDWICHES. WE DO MOST OF OUR BUSINESS AT, AT LUNCH. UM, BUT WE HAVE A ROTATING, WE HAVE SPECIALTY ITEMS. WE ALSO HAVE A ROTATING MENU, UH, SEASONAL ITEMS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CHEF ON STAFF THAT ACTUALLY DEVELOPS VERY UPSCALE SANDWICHES AND SALADS. TELL US ABOUT YOUR FAVORITE SET AND FAVORITE SANDWICH. I LIKE THE ONES WITH MOST OF OUR SANDWICHES DO HAVE A HEALTHY SIDE TO THEM, BUT I LIKE THE ONES WITH LOTS OF MEAT AND A LITTLE BIT OF KICK TO THEM. WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT OPEN UP IN AT US? YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY SHOOTING TO GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE, YOU KNOW, TOWARD THE END OF THE YEAR AND OPEN PROBABLY AROUND FEBRUARY OF NEXT YEAR. YOU KNOW, ASSUMING WE GET THROUGH PERMITTING FAIRLY EASILY AFTER THIS APPROVAL. SO YOU'RE ALL VERY BRAVE. RIGHT? GOOD. WE ARE, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR PRODUCT IS VERY, VERY TAKEOUT FRIENDLY. SO OBVIOUSLY CATERING HAS BEEN BRUTAL FOR US, BUT YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR STORES WE'RE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALMOST ON PAR WITH TAKEOUT, WITH WHAT WE WERE DOING DINE IN. SO WE FEEL VERY GOOD. YOUR CONCEPT IS A REALLY GREAT ONE FOR THE TIMES. IT SEEMS. YEAH. YEAH. I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE PATIO SEATING WAS 38 AND THE DINING IS 72. YEAH. AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, COMMON AREA IN FRONT OF US. SO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY BY THE TIME WE OPEN, WE'RE KIND OF PAST, YOU KNOW, THE STATE OF BEING OF THE WORLD, BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE OUTSIDE CUSTOMER DISPLAY IN THE AREA AS WELL. SO WE FEEL GOOD. WHAT'S YOUR AVERAGE PRICE? WHAT'S YOUR PRICE? DID YOU SAY AVERAGE PRICE? I'M SORRY. YOU'RE CUTTING OUT. EVERAGE PROCESS. I THINK OUR AVERAGE CHECK IS LIKE 12 BUCKS. I THINK THE SANDWICH IS PROBABLY 11, 12 BUCKS. I WAS ABOUT THE SAME. OKAY, GOOD. PROMINENT. CHRIS, ARE YOU, HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT THE PARK AREA OUT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING THERE? ANYTHING IS THAT ATTRACTIVE AMENITY TO YOU? ABSOLUTELY. WE, YOU KNOW, WE LOVE COMMUNITY GATHERING AREAS AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU KNOW, THOSE GUYS AT NORTH WOULD HAVE PROGRAMMED FOR THAT AREA. SO IT FITS OUR, YOU KNOW, IT FITS WHAT WE LIKE TO DO PERFECTLY. WE FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT IT. I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS. NO MORE QUESTION. NO MORE QUESTIONS, MAN. ALL RIGHT. NOBODY HAS A QUESTION. WELCOME. QUEST SAYS NO WAY IN PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS SIDE. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS SIDE? TIM SAYS, NO, I IN PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. I HEREBY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WELL, COME ON BOARD REQUESTS THE WAY MOVE TO MOVE TO APPROVE MAYOR. SO COOL. MADE A MOTION. I BEAT MARLIN AND I DID MARY FAST ENOUGH MIRROR. [03:15:02] UH, THE BACK LINES TOO NOISY. YOU KNOW, CHRIS ITEM, [18. Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on a Resolution Approving an Amendment to License Agreement, Between the Town of Addison and Oncor Delivery Company, LLC to Establish Standards for Construction of Improvements and Installation of Landscaping in the Redding Trail License Area, and Authorize the City Manager to Execute the Amendment. ] A TANG PRESENT DISCUSS CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION, APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO A LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND ENCORE DELIVERY COMPANY, LLC, TO ESTABLISH STANDARDS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF IMPROVEMENTS AND INSTALLATION OF LANDSCAPING IN THE REDDING TRAIL LICENSE AREA, AND ALSO RISE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AMENDMENT. WELL, JANET SAID, WELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, I'M BRINGING BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING FOR CONSIDERATION AND AMENDMENT AND AMENDMENT TO THE LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THE WEDDING TRAIL. UM, IN JANUARY PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL, UM, INFORMING THEM OF ENCORES PLANS TO REPLACE THEIR TRANSMISSION TOWERS THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE FREDDIE TRAIL CORRIDOR. THIS TOWER PROJECT IS A 1.3 MILES SECTION THAT RUNS THROUGH MULTIPLE CITIES, INCLUDING CARROLLTON IN FARMER'S BRANCH. WHAT OVERVIEW OF THE TOWER REPLACEMENT PROJECT? UM, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL ENCORE, UM, NOTIFIED STAFF THAT THEY ORIGINALLY HAD INTENDED TO BRING THE CORRIDOR INTO CLOSER COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR CURRENT HI-FI CONTROL GUIDELINES. AND AS A RESULT THAT WOULD REQUIRE REMOVAL OF ORNAMENTAL TREES, LANDSCAPING, IRRIGATION, LIGHTING, AND SITE ELEMENTS LOCATED ALONG THE READY TRAIL ENCORE AND TOWN STAFF WERE ABLE TO DEVELOP A COMPROMISE WHICH WOULD LIMIT REMOVAL OF VEGETATION TO DIRECTLY AROUND TOWERS AND OTHER TRANSMISSION LINES. STACKER POSTS THAT EXISTING VEGETATION ALONG THE ALLEY BEHIND DME DRIVE WOULD ALSO BE REMOVED TO ALLOW FOR NEW SHREDS TO BE PLANTED THAT WOULD NOT ENCOURAGE THE ALLEY OR THE OVERHEAD UTILITY LINES, UM, AND REQUIRE ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE COUNSEL REQUESTED AFTER THIS PRESENTATION THAT AN UPDATE TO THE CURRENT LICENSE AGREEMENT THAT REFLECTED THE EXPECTATIONS THAT HAD BEEN ALLOWED, UM, BE PROVIDED AND ENCORE HAS PROVIDED AN AMENDMENT TO THE LICENSE AGREEMENT, UM, WHICH ADDS EXHIBIT C AND IDENTIFIES THE LOUD ACCESS ALLOWED EXCEPTIONS. UM, I ALSO HAVE KEY REPRESENTATIVES OF ENCORE I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWERING QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. I HAVE KITA HOGS, JILL ALVAREZ AND JUSTIN STANLEY PRESENT. UM, COUNSEL ALSO REQUESTED AS A FOLLOWUP TO THAT MEETING THAT CLEAR DIRECTION BE PROVIDED WHEN DOCUMENTING WHAT IS AGREED UPON IN A MANNER THAT ALL PARTIES HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING AND AN ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT, THE EXPECTATIONS AND AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SET REPRESENTATIVES AT A TOWN IN ENCORE, AGREE TO WORK FROM THE DIRECTION IDENTIFIED ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDES. OKAY. ENCORE, I'M SORRY. LET ME MOVE THIS REAL QUICK. SO I CAN MEET THIS UNQUENCHABLE LIMIT THE REMOVAL TWO 59 ORNAMENTAL TREES AROUND THE TOWERS AND UNDER THE TRANSMISSION LINES IN AN EXCEPTION TO THE REMAINING TREES IT'S DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT C ON LINE 21, ENCORE WILL ALLOW AND REPLACEMENT IN THE MORNING. MIDDLE TREES REMOVED WITH ORNAMENTAL TREES THAT DO NOT EXCEED 15 FEET IN HEIGHT WITHIN APPROVED LOCATIONS. AND THIS IS IDENTIFIED AN EXCEPTION AS DESCRIBING EXHIBIT C LINE 21. ENCORE WILL ONLY REMOVE SHRUBS AROUND THE BASE OF THE TOWERS AND SHRUBS TALLER THAN FOREFOOT ALONG THE ALLEY BEHIND DOME DRIVE. UM, AND THAT EXCEPTION IS ALSO DESCRIBED ONLINE 21 AND EXHIBIT C ENCORE WILL ALLOW SEATING AREAS TO REMAIN PER EXCEPTION LISTED ONLINE 20. UM, THEY WILL ALLOW EXISTING IRRIGATION TO REMAIN PER EXCEPTION LISTED ON LINE 21. THEY WILL ALLOW EXISTING LIGHTING TO REMAIN FOR EXCEPTION DEFINED ONLINE EIGHT. UM, ENCORE ALSO AGREED TO REPAIR TURF DAMAGED DURING CONSTRUCTION WITH SOD, THEY WOULD REPAIR ANY DAMAGE MADE TO THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM. THEY WOULD WORK WITH TOWN STAFF TO ALLOW MAINTENANCE OF THE AREA DURING CONSTRUCTION. THEY WOULD CONSTRUCT A TEMPORARY FENCE TO LEAVE HALF OF THE DOG PARK OPEN FOR USE DURING CONSTRUCTION. THEY WOULD PRUNE SHRUBS ALONG PARK BOUNDARIES TO 10 FEET TALL, AND THEY WOULD PROVE PRUNE REMAINING ORNAMENTAL TREE IS TO 15 TALL BUT TALL. AND THEY WOULD LIMIT REMOVAL OF BURNS TO TWO AREAS. [03:20:01] AND ADDISON AGREED, UM, IN THE DISCUSSIONS, SORRY, OUT OF CLINT AGREED THAT WE WOULD TAG ALL TREES TO CLEARLY IDENTIFY WHICH TREES ARE REMOVED FOR REMOVAL. SO OUR ALL PARTIES WERE IN AGREEMENT THAT THE TOWN WOULD TEMPORARILY REMOVE LIGHT POLES, SIGNAGE, AND DRINKING FOUNTAINS IN THE PATH OF CONSTRUCTION. BUT WHEN RE-INSTALL THEM, ONCE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE, THE TOWN WOULD MAINTAIN THE HEIGHT OF ORNAMENTAL TREES AND SHRUBS TO 15 FEET PER THE EXCEPTION THAT'S LISTED IN EXHIBIT C LINE 21, THE TOWN WOULD REPLANT ORNAMENTAL TREES AND SHRUBS AT A LATER DATE. WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT WE WOULD REPLANT 25 ORNAMENTAL TREES AND THEN THE SHRUBS THAT ARE ALONG THE DOME ALLEY TO REPLACE THE ONES THAT WERE REMOVED, THAT'S ALLOWED IN THE EXCEPTION ON LINE 21. AND THEN THE TOWN WOULD REMOVE THE REDDING TRIAL PLAQUE AND MAINSTREAM CLOCK AND REPLACE THAT AT A LATER DATE AFTER ONCOURSE PROJECT IS COMPLETE. WHEN WE LAST SPOKE WITH YOU, WE PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING MAP. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SAW LAST TIME. WE WANTED TO RECTIFY WHAT WE'VE FOUND IN THE FIELD. UM, SO YOU CAN TELL THAT WHAT WE PRESENTED LAST TIME, WHERE THE YELLOW XS THAT SHOWED ALL THE TREES THAT NEEDED TO BE REMOVED. UM, SINCE WE'VE BEEN GOING OUT AND WALKING THE SITE WITH ENCORE IN TOWN STAFF, WE ACTUALLY MASSAGE THOSE TREE LOCATIONS A LITTLE BIT. SO YOU'LL SEE THE RED XS ARE TREES THAT ARE NOW IDENTIFIED FOR REMOVAL, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED SINCE THAT LAST DISCUSSION. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED SOME BLUE XS THAT WE ORIGINALLY SAID WE WERE GOING TO REMOVE THOSE TREES. UM, BUT WE REALIZED THAT THEY REALLY COULD STAY. SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF MASSAGING THAT, UM, MAP THAT WE HAD PRESENTED LAST TIME. THE COUNT ARE VERY SIMILAR. I THINK THERE'S TWO TREES DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE SHOWED YOU LAST TIME. AND WE'RE SHOWING THIS TIME, UM, THE MAP LAST TIME SHOWED THE LANDSCAPE IMPACTS AREAS. THOSE HAVE NOT CHANGED. UM, ONE AREA THAT WE'LL HAVE IDENTIFIED AS AN ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE IMPACT IS SHOWN IN PURPLE. AND THAT'S JUST THAT GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS WE WOULD BE REMOVING THE SHRUBS THAT ARE LOCATED ALONG THE DOME DRIVE ALLEY. UM, OUR ENCORE WOULD BE REMOVING THOSE AND THE TOWN WOULD REPLACE THEM. THIS IS THE MAP THAT THE TOWN PRODUCED, UM, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE ENCORE. THIS IS BASED OFF OF OUR GIS DATA. UM, THERE WAS A TREE SURVEY DONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO. UM, THIS MAP REFERENCES NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO EACH TREE LOCATED IN THE AREA, UM, WE'VE GONE OUT AND BUILT, TAGGED ALL OF THOSE TREES. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT PHOTO THERE WITH THE GREEN TAG AND THE RED TAG, EACH ONE OF THOSE TAGS HAS A NUMBER ON IT THAT RELATES TO THE DOT THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP WITH THE NUMBER, ALL OF THE RED TAG TREES ARE TREES THAT ARE TO REMAIN. SO THAT MEANS FOR THE PEOPLE WORKING OUT IN THE SIDE, IT MEANS STOP. DON'T REMOVE THIS TREE. AND ALL THE GREEN TAG TREES HAVE BEEN APPROVED TO BE REMOVED. AND THE GREEN TAG MEANS, GO AHEAD, THEY'RE CLEAR FOR REMOVAL. UM, SO ONE OF THE DIRECTIONS FOR COUNSEL WAS TO REVIT A DOCUMENT THAT WE'D GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE THAT WE COULD ALL SAY, YES, THIS IS WHAT WE AGREED ON. SO THIS IS THE DOCUMENT THAT TOWN'S STAFF HAS PROVIDED TO ENCORE. AND WE BOTH AGREE THAT THIS IS, UM, THESE ARE THE TREES THAT WE ALL AGREE ON TO BE REMOVED FOR THE PROJECT AND THE ONES THAT SHOULD REMAIN. UM, SORRY. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? HEY, JANET, I'VE GOT, THIS IS FUN. I'VE GOT A QUESTION. UM, ABOUT THE ART SCULPTURE. YES. DID YOU ALL ADDRESS THAT THE ART SCULPTURE IS GOING TO REMAIN IN PLACE AND DOES NOT NEED TO BE REMOVED SO WE WILL WRAP IT AND PROTECT IT. UM, BUT IT IS GOING TO STAY IN PLACE. OKAY. IS THAT PART OF THE AGREEMENT KINA, ARE YOU ON HERE? I BELIEVE THERE'S AN ELEMENT THAT ADDRESSES SITE FURNISHING. AND I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS ART, BUT IT'S TALKING ABOUT FURNISHINGS AND THAT'S THE EXHIBIT THAT IT WOULD FALL UNDER WOULD BE THAT ITEM. RIGHT. AND ALSO OUR TRANSMISSION DID NOT FEEL AS THOUGH IT WOULD IMPACT ANY TYPE OF COMPLIANCE CONSIDERING THE HEIGHT. I THINK IT'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW TALL IT IS, BUT IT WAS NOT A CONCERN TO US AWARE. IT IS OUR MAIN ISSUE WAS MORE OF ACCESS TO OUR FACILITIES. AND THAT WAS WHERE MOST OF THE VEGETATION THAT WE ADDRESSED AS LONG AS WELL AS COMPLIANCE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR STANDARDS ARE. SO THAT, UM, THAT OUR DESIGN IS NOT A CONCERN FOR US. THAT'D BE PART OF THE AGREEMENT. [03:25:04] I WOULD START. ARE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I SAID IT, I WOULD SAY, NO, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE. SO I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE AGREEMENT AND IT'S COMING FROM THE GUY WHO WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT. COULD YOU READ THAT LAST? I DIDN'T. YEAH. I SAID, AND THAT'S COMING FROM THE GUY WHO WANTS TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS ADDRESSED IN THE AGREEMENT. I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. UM, SIMILAR QUESTION, SHOULD, SHOULD I SEE THIS BULLET POINT A MODIFICATION TO THE REDDING TRAIL DOG PART LICENSE AGREEMENT WILL BE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION OF, HAVE WE SEEN THAT ALREADY? I MEAN, NOT WE, BUT, BUT HAVE YOU SEEN THAT THE BREADING TRAIL LICENSE AGREEMENT, UM, IN ORDER TO MODIFY THAT ENCORE REQUIRES CONSTRUCTION PLANS? I BELIEVE IT'S UP TO 50%. UM, AND SO STAFF IS IN THE PROCESS OF PREPARING THOSE PLANS FOR THAT TRAIL EXTENSION. UM, AND WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO THE 50%. SO ONCE THAT IS DONE AND ENCORES HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE PLANS AND WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THEIR COMMENTS, THEN WE WOULD BRING THAT LICENSE AGREEMENT BEFORE COUNCIL, BUT WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON MOVING THAT FORWARD. OKAY. SO ON ENCORE IS OPEN TO THOSE DISCUSSIONS, CORRECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS WHEN A PARK STAFF AND ENCORE OR WALKING, UM, POINTED OUT TO THE TREE IN THE MEDIAN, UM, ALONG THE BELTLINE ROAD THAT ARE DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH THEIR TRANSMISSION POWER, WHAT CREATES DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH, AND THEN ONE WILL GROW TO BE DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH ENCORE, UM, FELT VERY STRONGLY THAT THOSE TREES AREN'T ALLOWED UNDER THEIR TRANSMISSION LINES, THAT THEY WOULD CAUSE FUTURE ISSUES. UM, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE WHY VOTE TREES. UM, I AGREE WITH THEM. UM, THE ORNAMENTAL TREES ON THE COURT ARE VERY SMALL. THESE ACTUALLY WILL GET VERY LARGE AND HEIGHT. SO WE HAVE AGREED, OR WE ARE INCLUDING IN THIS THAT THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO REMOVE THOSE TWO TREES. THERE'S TREES ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PROJECT. IT WILL NOT LOOK BARE WHEN DONE THERE WILL BE A LANDSCAPING THAT GOES IN ITS PLACE. UM, SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE SPOKE ABOUT LAST TIME. GINA, CAN WE JUST, CAN WE HAVE OUR PEOPLE RELOCATE THOSE TREES? ACTUALLY WE ARE, WE ARE LOOKING INTO IT BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT PLANTED THAT LONG AGO. AND SO WE ARE DOING SOME QUICK RESEARCH TO SEE IF IT'S FEASIBLE. UM, WHAT I'M HEARING IS BECAUSE IT'S IN THAT MEDIAN ENVIRONMENT THAT IT PROBABLY ISN'T, BUT THERE WE'RE DOING SOME RESEARCH TO SEE IF WE COULD RELOCATE THOSE STATIONS. OKAY. RIGHT. YOU'RE WELCOME. UM, THE, AS WE MENTIONED, THE RED AND TRAIL EXTENSION, UM, THE LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THE REDDING TRIAL DOG PARK, WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT TO YOU IN THE FUTURE TO BE AMENDED, TO INCLUDE THE EXTENSION OF THE TRAIL TO MIDWAY ROAD. IN OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS IN JANUARY, THIS WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE BROUGHT BEFORE ENCORE THAT WE FELT LIKE THIS SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE COMPROMISE, BECAUSE IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO EXTEND THAT TRAIL, UM, TO MIDWAY THE MIDWAY TRAVEL THAT'S BEING BUILT. UM, THE STATUS OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY IS WE NEEDED TO PREPARE A TOPOGRAPHIC SURVEY OF THE AREA THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED AND DONE. UM, WE NEED TO PREPARE A 50% REVIEW PLANTS. WE'RE SAYING WE'RE AT 30%, ACTUALLY THE PLANS THEMSELVES ARE AT 50%, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON OUR SPECIFICATIONS. SO THAT'S THAT REMAINING LITTLE PIECE. UM, AND THEN WE WILL PROVIDE ENCORE WITH THE REVIEW PLANS AND, UM, THEY WILL PROVIDE US WITH COMMENTS, STAFF WILL ADDRESS ENCORES COMMENTS AND THEN A MODIFICATION TO THE REDDING TROLL DOG PARK LICENSE AGREEMENT TO ALLOW FOR THE TRAIL EXTENSION WOULD BE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. JENNA I'M QUESTIONED FOR YOU. YES, SIR. UH, CONCERNING THE WRITING TRAIL DOG PARK, THERE ARE TWO TOWERS THAT ARE EAST OF THE, UH, WRITING TRAIL PROPER. ARE, IS THERE OTHER PLANS TO REPLACE THOSE TOWERS? YES, THEY ARE. YOU'RE SAYING EAST GOING TOWARDS A MIDWAY, IF I'M CORRECT, CORRECT. [03:30:01] ONE ON ONE RIGHT ON THE MIDWAY. AND WE'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, ON WEST BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT, THAT WAS WHERE WE'RE STARTING. UM, WE HAVE OUR FARMER'S BRANCH STATION THAT WE'RE STARTING AT THAT FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND THEN WE'LL TRANSITION OVER THERE. UM, SO THOSE WILL BE REPLACED AS WELL. AND AT WHAT, WHAT, HOW IS THAT? ARE THOSE GOING TO BE SEQUENCED IN THOSE AFTER THE, BEFORE I GET TWO HOURS OR BEFORE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S BEFORE, YES. SORRY. YES. THE TOWERS IN THAT AREA WOULD BE RECONSTRUCTED. UM, AND THEN THE LICENSE AGREEMENT, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY FOR THE TRAIL EXTENSION WOULD BE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL AFTER THOSE TWO TOWERS. THE REASON, UM, WE'RE BRINGING THAT LATER IS BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TOOK TO GET US, IT TAKES TO GET A SURVEY AND DO CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. UM, BUT ALSO THERE WAS NO VEGETATION AROUND THE DOG PARK THAT WAS IMPACTED. SO THE LICENSE AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE BRINGING TOWARDS YOU TODAY IS THE AREA THAT HAD THE VEGETATION AND THE SITE AMENITIES THAT WERE, UM, WE WERE WORKING ON A COMPROMISE ON AN ENCORE, MADE SOME EXCEPTIONS FOR, UM, THE NEXT LICENSE AGREEMENT THAT WE BRING BEFORE YOU FOR THE TRIAL EXTENSION JUST INCLUDES ADDITIONAL LAND TO ALLOW US TO CONNECT FROM WHERE WE'RE AT TO CONNECT TO MIDWAY. UM, SO THAT'S MY THAT'S COMING TO YOU AFTER THE TOWERS ARE BUILT. SO IS THE EXTENSION GOING TO BE OVER THAT PARKING LOT AREA OR OVER THE GREEN AREA OR THE GRASS AREA EXTENSION IS GOING TO GO ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE DOG PARK ALONG THE AREA WHERE THE HOTEL IS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE DOG PARK FENCE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT, PUT THE TRAIL ALONG THAT SOUTH SIDE OF THE DOG PARK FENCE, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE THE DOG PARK JUST A LITTLE LONGER ON THE OTHER SIDE AND THE TRAILER WILL RUN ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THEN KIND OF WRAP AROUND A TOWER AND CONNECT THAT TO THE MIDWAY TRAIL. ALL RIGHT, UNDERSTOOD. WELL, WE'LL HAVE A LAYOUT WHEN WE BRING THAT, UM, LICENSE AGREEMENT. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE DETAILS, UM, WITH, WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, UM, WE FEEL LIKE ALL OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE VOICED BY COUNCIL LAST TIME TO TRY TO PRESERVE, UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE ORNAMENTAL TREES. UM, SO THERE WAS AN EXCEPTION ALLOWED TO LET EVERYTHING REMAIN THAT WASN'T AT THE BASE OF THE TOWERS OR UNDER THE LINES. UM, WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SATISFIED THOSE CONCERNS, UM, IN THE BEST ABILITY THAT WE COULD, UM, TO, UM, KEEP THE GOALS OF BOTH PARTIES. AND THEN THERE WAS A COUNCIL VOICE TO CONCERN THAT YOU WANTED US TO DOCUMENT EVERYTHING AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ALL IN AGREEMENT. AND I THINK KITA WOULD JOIN ME IN SAYING THAT WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THIS, WITH OUR STAFF AND HER STAFF IN MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY AGREES ON EXACTLY WHAT CAN BE REMOVED AND WHAT WILL REMAIN. UM, SO WE'VE DONE THAT. SO THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE TOWER REPLACEMENT, UM, PROJECT WOULD BE THAT, UM, THIS WEEK, ACTUALLY THAT SITE FURNISHING REMOVAL WILL START TAKING PLACE. SO YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS ARE, ARE NOW DOWN IN THE PARK AND THE FOUNTAINS HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND SOME OF THE ELEMENTS ARE BEING REMOVED. UM, IF THE LICENSE AGREEMENT IS APPROVED, ENCORE WOULD BEGIN REMOVING VEGETATION TOMORROW ON JULY 15TH, AND THE TRAIL WOULD BE CLOSED DURING DAYTIME WORK HOURS. UM, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOW IT TO REMAIN OPEN DURING EVENING HOURS WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT WORK. UM, ADDISON PARKS CREWS WILL INSTALL A VEGETATIVE VEGETATIVE SPRAIN ALONG A SMALL PORTION OF AN ALLEY BEHIND DOME. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THE WHOLE STRETCH, BUT THERE IS A PROPERTY OWNER, UM, HAS AN ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCE AND NOT AS MUCH PRIVACY IN HER AREA. UM, AND WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND INSTALL SCREENING RIGHT THERE TO HELP HER WITH THAT SITUATION. UM, AUGUST 3RD THROUGH 15TH, UM, ENCORE WILL BEGIN THEIR ACCESS WORK WHEN THAT HAPPENS. THEY'RE RUNNING TRAIL, DOG PARK WILL BE CLOSED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. THEY'LL BE INSTALLING FENCING TO BASICALLY CUT THE DOG PARK IN HALF SO THEY CAN WORK ON ONE SIDE AND PEOPLE CAN USE THE OTHER SIDE, UM, AND THEY WILL PERFORM THEIR RIGHT AWAY ACCESS WORK IN THE TREBLE, BE CLOSE DURING DAYTIME HOURS THAT WILL BE OPEN DURING THE EVENING. AND THEN THE BEGINNING, AUGUST 17TH, THROUGH OCTOBER 30TH, THE TROUBLE BE CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC, UM, WITH THE EXCLUSION OF THEIR RUNNING TRIAL DOG PARK, A PORTION OF THAT DOG PARK WILL REMAIN OPEN. UM, BUT PERIODIC CLOSURES MAY BE [03:35:01] REQUIRED AS ENCORE IS REPLACING THOSE TOWERS IN THE VICINITY. AND WE WILL NOTIFY RESIDENTS, UM, AS ENCORE MAKES PLANS FOR THOSE ELEMENTS. UM, THOSE REQUIRED CLOSINGS, AND THEN NOVEMBER 1ST, THE 30TH WOULD BE CLEANED UP AND RESTORATION. SO ENCORE WILL CLEAN UP AND REPAIR DAMAGES MAINTENANCE LANDSCAPE. AND THEN OUT OF SOME PARKS, CREWS WILL IN BEGIN REINSTALLING, PEDESTRIAN, LIGHT POLES, THE SITE FURNISHING SIGNAGE AND REPLACEMENT, VEGETATION, VEGETATION, AND THE TRAVEL REOPENED TO THE PUBLIC. UM, SO WITH THAT SCHEDULE PRESENTED BEFORE YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, BRING BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, THE AMENDMENT, THE ENCORE HAS PUT TOGETHER WITH ADDING THE EXHIBIT C UM, TO THE LICENSE AGREEMENT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOR THEM. UM, AND I WOULD BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ALONG WITH ENCORE REPS. THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ALSO THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE JANA, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THIS IS A BIG TASK, YOU KNOW, SINCE YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WHICH TREE, WHICH SPANISH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE DETAIL, SO A QUAD, THOSE PEOPLE ON ALL STAFF TO REALLY PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THIS PROGRESS, WHO WILL DO THAT. YOU KNOW, YOU'LL ANY STAFF YOU ARE SIGNED. SO, UM, I THINK KEENAN CAN ATTEST THAT I'VE SPENT MANY HOURS OUT THERE WALKING THE SITE WITH HER AND HER STAFF, BUT WE HAVE ALSO HAD OUR IRRIGATION SUPERVISOR AND PARTS MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR INVOLVED, UM, ALONG THE WAY. AND SO BETWEEN THE THREE OF US, WE'VE ALSO MET WITH, UM, OUR CREWS AND WE BELIEVE THAT EVERYBODY THAT IS WORKING IN THE RUNNING TRAIL CORRIDOR IS VERY FAMILIAR, UM, WITH WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO RETURN IT BACK TO THE CONDITION IT WAS WHEN ENCORE SPANISH. THANK YOU, JEFF, HAVE WE CREATED A PRE-CONSTRUCTION VIDEO? WE HAVE NOT. UM, WE TYPICALLY REQUIRE THAT OF A CONTRACTOR WORKING FOR US. UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY IN, ON QUARTERS RIGHT AWAY, UM, CAUSE THEY OWN THE LAND AND JUST ALLOW US ACCESS TO THAT. SO WE HAVEN'T PROVIDED, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT VIDEO. NO, NO. THERE WAS NO PLAN TO, WE CAN DO A QUICK VIDEO. WE'VE ALREADY REMOVED A LOT OF THOSE ELEMENTS. UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE PHOTOGRAPHED IT VERY WELL, THAT THAT THOSE PHOTOS THAT WE HAVE COULD EASILY TAKE THE PLACE OF A VIDEO THERE. NO GOOD IDEA. BUT I THINK THE PICTURES, PICTURES, AS LONG AS IT'S DOCUMENTED, OBVIOUSLY, HEY PAUL, DID YOU GET YOUR QUESTIONS AND THOUGHTS SANFORD? WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M A, I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF WAS COMFORTABLE THAT, UM, THIS IS A, UM, UH, TAKE WE'RE NEWS LOSING THE NET 25 OR SO ORNAMENTAL TREES. AND IS, IS THIS THE BEST WE CAN DO WITH RESPECT TO, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING THIS AS A PARK WHEN IN FACT IT'S A UTILITIES, BUT, AND, AND, AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO ENCORE FOR, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING US TO USE IT IN THE MANNER WE USE. IT'S, IT'S A WONDERFUL AMENITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND, AND, UM, SO KUDOS TO THEM AND THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER FOR US. AND SO, YOU KNOW, JAN HAD THIS APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE, UM, THE INTERACTION THAT YOU ACUTE EVENT. I, YOU KIND OF TOUCHED ON IT WITH RESPECT TO SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFYING TREES AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN REPLACE TREES AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE WE MAXIMIZED OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR, I'D JUST LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT? I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THE EXHIBIT C THE ENCORE PROVIDED DID NOT LIMIT THE NUMBER OF ORNAMENTAL TREES THAT WE COULD COME BACK WITH. UM, IT DID REQUIRE THAT THEY WOULD BE IN THE DESIGNATED AREAS THAT THEY APPROVED. UM, AND STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THOSE AREAS AND FEELS LIKE, UM, THAT 25 TREES COULD [03:40:01] GO IN THERE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT AS WE START DEVELOPING THOSE PLANS FOR WHERE THE TREES NEED TO GO, IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO ADD ONE OR TWO ADDITIONAL TREES IN SOME AREAS THAT WE MAYBE THOUGHT WE COULD GET FIVE, AND WE COULD ACTUALLY GET SEVEN, WE WILL DO THAT. AND THIS AGREEMENT DOESN'T LIMIT US TO THOSE 25 TREES. WE JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE KIND OF ANTICIPATING THAT WE COULD DO REALISTICALLY. UM, BUT I W I CAN TELL YOU, WE WILL TRY OUR BEST TO EVEN, YOU KNOW, SLIGHTLY BEAT THAT NUMBER. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LAND TO, YOU KNOW, EXTREMELY EXCEED THAT NUMBER, BUT WHERE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPLACE TREES, WE DEFINITELY WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT, AND ONCOURSE NOT LIMITING, NOT WELL, THAT'S GREAT NEWS. YOU KNOW, PART OF WHAT I'M DESIROUS OF IS MUCH LIKE WE'RE DOING OUR MIDWAY ROAD IS TO DO THE LANDSCAPING CORRECTLY, SUSTAINABLY AND DOING IT RIGHT WITH THE RIGHT KIND OF, OF PLANT MATERIAL AND TREES SPACE PROPERLY. SO THEY CAN MATURE AND THRIVE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, YOU KNOW? AND SO IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, YOU'RE MY EXPERT. AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF HEAR THOSE WORDS FROM YOU THAT, THAT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE MAXIMIZING IN A SUSTAINABLE, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE WAY TO, TO, TO, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, KEEP, KEEP THIS PARK, UM, WHICH IS REALLY NOTHING MORE THAN A UTILITY EASEMENT, UM, UH, FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE'VE ENJOYED SO MUCH FOR SO MANY YEARS. DEFINITELY WE WILL. UM, I WROTE THOSE WORDS DOWN BECAUSE THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE USE AS A GAUGE WHEN WE'RE, UM, VERIFYING THAT WE'VE DONE WHAT WE PROMISED YOU THAT WE WOULD DO. UM, SO WE WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT DIRECTION. THANK YOU. THAT'S A GREAT JOB, JANET. THAT'S A GREAT UNDERTAKING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT JOB. I WOULD ADD MY NEIGHBORS NEARBY. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANIMAL COMMENTS AND REQUESTS OR, YOU KNOW, COLLEAGUES. I MEAN, I'D JUST SAY, AS WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME ELEMENTS HERE THAT NEEDED SOME MORE WORK, THOSE OLD FOR 10 YEARS. SOME, SOME THINGS THAT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE ANYMORE. AND, AND I, I, AGAIN, I EQUATE THIS VERY CLOSELY TO MIDWAY ROAD WHERE WE'RE DOING THE LANDSCAPING AND MAKING PUBLIC SPACE, YOU KNOW, VERY ATTRACTIVE AND VERY INVITING AND VERY PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED, VERY ENCOURAGING OF WALKING AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE FOREFRONT OF URBAN, URBAN DESIGN, URBAN PLANNING. AND, AND SO W WE HAVE A COUPLE OF REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES HERE WITH MIDWAY ROAD AND WITH, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS UTILITY EASEMENT HERE. AND, AND, UM, AND AGAIN, WE, WE, WE NOT, WE DO NOT NEED TO MINIMIZE THE, UH, UH, THE COOPERATION AND THE PARTNERSHIP OF ENCORE HERE AND LETTING US DO THIS SORT OF THING. AND, AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, FOR OUR LITTLE TOWN HERE. SO I HAD ASSUMED VERY GOOD ABOUT THIS AND, AND, UM, AND, AND NOT THINK WE'RE, WE'RE IN A LONGTERM SUSTAINABLE, UM, UH, UH, MINDSET HERE. AND I, AND I'M VERY, VERY COMFORTABLE WITH IT. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE MOTION? AND SECOND ON THIS ITEM I MOVE TO APPROVE. SO MONICA WEALTH, BED EMOTION, LORI WARD, SECONDARY, AND ALL YOU FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS, MANDMENT SAY, AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. HUGE. THANKS JENNA. AND THANKS TO ONBOARD TOO, FOR RECOGNIZING THE VALUE THAT WE WERE BRINGING TO THE CORRIDOR AND HELPING US KEEP THAT VALUE THERE. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, KIDA. ALRIGHT, ITEM [19. Present, Discuss and Consider Action on a Resolution Directing the City Manager to Calculate the Voter-Approval Tax Rate of the Town of Addison in the Manner Provided for a Special Taxing Unit as Authorized by the Texas Tax Code Section 26.04(C-1).] 19, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION OR RESOLUTION DIRECTING THIS CITY MANAGER TO CALCULATE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON IN THE MANNER PROVIDED FOR A SPECIAL PASSING ON IT AS AUTHORIZED BY THE TAX TEXAS TAX CODE, SECTION 26 DASH ZERO FOUR. [03:45:04] STEVEN JOBS, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION WHICH WOULD DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER, UH, TO CALCULATE THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE AT AN 8% RATE, RATHER THAN THE 3.5%, UH, RATE, WHICH WAS, UH, INCLUDED IN SENATE BILL TWO, WHICH IS CALLED THE TEXAS PROPERTY TAX AND TRANSPARENCY ACT OF 2019. SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT, UM, SENATE BILL TWO DID, WAS IT, IT CHANGED THAT VOTER APPROVAL RATE FROM 8% TO THREE AND A HALF PERCENT, UH, PRIOR TO THIS TAX BILL, ANY, ANY TAX RATE THAT WAS ADOPTED THAT EXCEEDED 8%, UH, WOULD TRIGGER THE ABILITY OF CITIZENS TO PETITION FOR AN ELECTION TO ROLL BACK TO THAT 8% TAX RATE. AND NOW SENATE BILL TWO IS LOWER THAT TRIGGERED RATE FROM 8% TO THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. AND THAT NOW REQUIRES A CITY TO HOLD AN AUTOMATIC ELECTION. SO AN EXCEPTION TO THIS LOWER 3.5% VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, AND THE AUTOMATIC ELECTION IS OFFERED WHEN A CITY IS LOCATED IN A AREA DECLARED A DISASTER AREA DURING THE CURRENT TAX YEAR BY THE GOVERNOR OR BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. AND THEN THIS EXCEPTION WAS MET ON MARCH 13TH OF THIS YEAR, WHEN BOTH PRESIDENT TRUMP AND GOVERNOR ABBOTT DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY, UH, OR, AND A NATIONAL EMERGENCY ON THE SAME DAY. UH, AND THEN IF DIRECTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THE TOWN WOULD CALCULATE THAT VOTER APPROVAL RATE AT THE 8% RATE, RATHER THAN THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. AND THEN THE DESIGNATED OFFICER WOULD CONTINUE TO CALCULATE THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE IN THAT SAME MANNER FOR THE SHORTER OF EITHER THE SECOND YEAR, IN WHICH TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE OF TAXABLE PROPERTY, UH, EXCEEDS THE TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE OR THREE YEARS. SO THE, THE LOWER OF THOSE TWO, AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THE RESOLUTION OR SENATE BILL TWO, STEVEN, MAYBE YOU COULD QUICKLY SUMMARIZE HOW IT WOULD WORK. SO IF THREE AND A HALF, IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO SAY APPROVE A 6%, HYPOTHETICALLY INCREASE THE TAX RATE INSTEAD OF THREE AND A HALF, WHAT WOULD THE TIMING BE ON THE DECISIONS? HOW WOULD THAT PLAY THROUGH? SURE. AND THAT'S ASSUMING THAT, THAT YOU DID NOT PASS THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT, CORRECT? CORRECT. SO, SO ONE THING THAT THAT SENATE BILL TWO DOES IS IT GREATLY SHORTENS THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT, UH, A TAXING ENTITY HAS TO APPROVE A TAX RATE IF, IF THEY'RE GOING TO EXCEED THAT VOTER APPROVAL RATE. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MEET THAT IN A TORY UNIFORM ELECTION DATE, A DEADLINE TO CALL THAT UNIFORM ELECTION DATE. SO THE FIRST THING IS OUR CHARTER REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET. AND THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT IS, IS THAT THAT PUBLIC HEARING IS 15, AT LEAST 15 DAYS TO 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE THAT PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ADVERTISE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, BY JULY 31ST, UM, FOR THE BUDGET. THEN FOR THE TAX RATE, WE WOULD HAVE TO ADVERTISE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE BY AUGUST 12TH. AND THEN BY AUGUST 17TH, COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO BOTH APPROVE A TAX RATE AND A BUDGET. AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE BOTH PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE THAT SAME NIGHT. AND THEN ALSO ON THAT NIGHT, COUNSEL WOULD NEED TO CALL THAT ELECTION, UH, FOR THAT VOTE ON THE TAX RATE. SO THEN AFTER THAT, YOU'VE ADOPTED YOUR BUDGET, YOU'VE ADOPTED YOUR TAX RATE IN NOVEMBER ON NOVEMBER 3RD, THERE'S GOING TO BE, THERE WOULD BE A VOTE. AND IF THAT VOTE FAILED, UH, YOU WOULD ROLL BACK TO THE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT, UH, TAX RATE. IF IT PASSED YOU WOULD, UH, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD GO WITH THE TAX RATE THAT WAS A, THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, IN YOUR BUDGET. UM, NOW DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT DOES, BUT LET ME JUST CALL OUT A COUPLE OF DATES TO BE SURE. SO THE DATE BY WHEN THE CITY MANAGER MUST PRESENT THE BUDGET IS JULY 31ST, 31ST, RIGHT? AND THEN IT'S HARDER REQUIREMENT. THAT'S THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT, CORRECT? BY JULY 31ST. AND WHEN DO WE ACTUALLY GET THE APPRAISED VALUES FOR THE WHATEVER THAT'S CALLED, WE WILL GET THOSE ON. AND THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS REQUIRED TO GET THOSE TO US BY JULY 25TH. [03:50:01] SINCE THAT DATE IS GOING TO BE ON A SATURDAY, WE ANTICIPATE GETTING THOSE ON JULY 24TH. SO THE WAY THIS LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD WORK, THE APPRAISED VALUES COME IN ON JULY 24TH. SO THE CITY MANAGER AT THAT POINT IN THE TEAM HAS THE ELECTION WOULD HAVE TO BE CALLED USING THE NEW BUDGET BY AUGUST 17TH OR SO. IS THAT RIGHT? DID I GET ALL OF THOSE CORRECT? I THINK SO YOU CUT OUT A LITTLE BIT THERE, BUT YES, YOU WOULD HAVE TO CALL THE ELECTION ONE. YOU WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE YOUR BUDGET, APPROVE YOUR TAX RATE, HAVE BOTH PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THEN CALL AN ELECTION ALL BY AUGUST 17. I JUST STRUGGLED WITH THE WORKABILITY OF THAT. MAYBE YOU AND WEST WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT FURTHER ON THAT. IT'S A, I THINK THE INTENT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I THINK THE INTENT OF THAT WAS TO MAKE, TO MAKE IT UNWORKABLE. SO, UM, IF, IF WEST WANTS TO COMMENT FURTHER ON THAT, THEN, UM, I THINK THE IDEA, NO FURTHER COMMENT UNNECESSARY. WELL, I STRUGGLE WITH THIS. I'LL JUST OFFER A COMMENT TO, I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF GIVING COUNSEL, THE ABILITY TO PUT IN A NUMBER HIGHER WITHOUT CALLING OUT FOR RESIDENT INPUTS. WHEN I THINK RESIDENTS IN THIS PARTICULAR TIME PERIOD, DO NOT WANT US GOING OVER THREE AND A HALF PERCENT, BUT THE MECHANICS OF THAT JUST APPEAR TO BE COMPLETELY UNWORKABLE. IF FOR ANY REASON, THERE WAS A NEED TO GO OVER THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. AND THIS IS FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, POSSIBLY THREE, CORRECT. IT WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF TWO YEARS NOW IN THE SECOND YEAR, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET OUR TAXABLE VALUES ON JULY 24TH. UH, THE FOLLOWING YEAR, IF THOSE TAXABLE VALUES WERE HIGHER THAN WHAT THEY ARE THIS JULY 24TH, THEN THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE FINAL YEAR IF THEY WERE LOWER THAN IT WOULD EXTEND TO A THIRD YEAR. AND I GUESS ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT I'M GOING TO STOP, AND THAT IS THAT, OF COURSE, THIS IS NOT A REQUIREMENT TO APPROVE A BUDGET AT ANY LEVEL. THIS IS CREATING FLEXIBILITY. THAT'S CORRECT. THIS DOES NOT OBLIGATE THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE A TAX RATE THAT WOULD BE AN EXCESS OF THE NORMAL VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, OR, UH, IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE DISCRETION THAT THE COUNCIL HAS WITH ADOPTING A TAX RATE. OTHER THAN IT, IT CHANGES IT WITH RESPECT TO THAT, UH, THAT UNIFORM ELECTION, IF YOU CHOSE TO EXCEED THAT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, HEY, STEVEN, THIS IS MARLIN CHI. CAN I JUST RUN THROUGH A SCENARIO HERE? AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY. SO IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS AND, UM, WE GET A BUDGET THAT'S 4% OVER, CORRECT. UM, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE TO USE ALL OF THE EIGHT AND A HALF PERCENT. RIGHT. SO, HEY, SO, SO IT MIGHT JUST BE 4%, BUT THAT WOULD ALSO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY LATER, THEY USE THE REMAINING WHAT FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT IF NEEDED BY YOU WITHIN YOUR THREE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT? SO THERE, THERE IS A, WHAT THEY CALL BANKING WITHIN THE BILL. SO THE AMOUNT OF THAT UNUSED WHATEVER THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS, IF IT'S THREE AND A HALF PERCENT OR THE 8%, UH, WHICH WOULD, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THIS RESOLUTION, WHATEVER THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THE ADOPTED TAX RATE AND THAT VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE CAN BE CARRIED FORWARD AND APPLY TO ANY OF THE FOLLOWING THREE, THREE, UH, UH, TAX RATE CALCULATIONS THREE YEARS TOTAL. THAT'S CORRECT. AND IF IT'S A ROLLING THREE YEARS, SO, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR, IF YOU, IF YOU HAD A DELTA BETWEEN THOSE TWO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, THAT DELTA WOULD ROLL FOR, FOR THE, FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. I SEE. OKAY. YEAH, I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M CONFLICTED HERE, BUT, UH, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND WHAT MIGHT BE THIS YEAR'S PROPOSED BUDGET AND WE'RE PREDICTING REVENUE OF A ONE, $1,500,000 LESS FOR NEXT YEAR. UH, AT LEAST FROM THOSE JUST FROM THOSE FOUR FUNDS THAT WE LOOKED AT. SO WE'RE OBVIOUSLY, UH, PREDICTING TO TAKE, UM, A PRETTY SIZABLE HIT. UM, SO WITH THAT IN MIND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M GONNA APPROVE THIS, [03:55:01] UM, WITH, UH, WITH A HOPE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT, ABOUT THE BUDGET THIS YEAR. LIKE WE WERE LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE FELT LIKE IF WE DON'T RAISE NOW, WE'RE JUST GONNA LOSE THAT OPPORTUNITY. I'M NOT HEARING THAT WE'RE LOSING THAT OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS BANKING, UM, SCENARIO. SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THOSE THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS PANDEMIC, THEY GOVERNMENT, IT JUST GAVE US THE FLEXIBILITY. SO JUST LIKE A USF, YOU KNOW, IF FOR THIS FULL PERCENT. SO IT WAS THOSE ANOTHER FOUR, 4% TO THE REMAINING TWO MORE YEARS. YEAH. ANY MORE QUESTION, PAUL IVAN? NO, I, I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT IS NOTHING MORE THAN GIVING US A TOOL, A FLEXIBILITY, WE'LL HAVE OUR DISCUSSIONS AND OUR DEBATES AND OUR, AND OUR, UH, AGREEMENTS AND DISAGREEMENTS OVER THE, OVER WHAT THE CITY MANAGER'S GOING TO PROPOSE FOR THE 2021 PROPOSAL, JUST LIKE WE ALWAYS DO, BUT THIS GIVES US MORE TOOLS. I CANNOT, I CANNOT FATHOM OR A REASONABLE REASON TO, TO NOT APPROVE THIS TONIGHT. I DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE I REALLY LIKED SOMETHING RESIDENTS, SORRY, PAUL, WERE YOU DONE WELL, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN LOOK YOUR POINT ABOUT RESIDENTS THIS OR THAT OR THE OTHER, AND THERE'S NOTHING MAGIC ABOUT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. THERE WAS NOTHING MAGIC ABOUT 2 CENTS ON THE, ON THE BUDGET LAST YEAR, THOSE ARE ARBITRARY NUMBERS AND THEY'RE SUBJECTIVE NUMBERS. AND, AND AGAIN, THE TIME TO ARGUE THAT IN DEBATE THAT IS NOT TONIGHT, THE TIME TO, TO DECIDE TONIGHT IS JUST TO GIVE US THE TOOLS TO DO WHAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN TO DO AND READ. AND WE TASKED HIM WITH A, WITH A, A, UH, A VISION OF WHAT WE WANTED TO ADD. SOME TO BE IN 2021 WAS COLE OR OUR, OUR, OUR PILLARS AND OUR, OUR MILESTONES AND OUR STRATEGIC VISION. THAT'S WHAT WE DID. AND WE SAID, WE ALL AGREED ON THAT. AND SO, YOU KNOW WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO. HE'S GOING TO PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET THAT COMPLIES WITH THAT. AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW REAL OUR, OUR, UM, OUR VISION WAS, HOW AFFORDABLE IT WAS UNAFFORDABLE. IT WAS, AND ALL OF THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, BUT THAT'S NOT FOR TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT IT, A THREE AND HALF PERCENT OF ANYTHING, THAT'S A, THAT'S A POLITICAL NUMBER THAT WAS, THERE WAS CONJURED UP IN AUSTIN, TEXAS THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US, IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE OF POLITICAL MEMBER THE YEAR BEFORE WAS 8% AND THE SNOWBOARD LEGITIMATE AT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT, THAT IS 8%. AND SO, YOU KNOW, SO, SO I DON'T BUY THE RESIDENT'S ARGUMENT ABOUT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT BECAUSE THAT'S A POLITICAL THING DONE BY EXTREME RIGHT WING REPUBLICANS IN MY VIEW PANDERING. BUT SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST GIVE OURSELVES, WASN'T MY POINT, PAUL, MY POINT ABOUT RESIDENTS WAS NOT THAT MY POINT WAS, I AM ALWAYS RELUCTANT, OVERRIDING THE ABILITY OF RESIDENTS TO VOTE ON MONEY. AND THE REASON THAT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT IS BECAUSE OF THE COMPLETE UNWORKABILITY OF THE ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL, THE WAY THEY PUT THE TIMING TOGETHER. IT'S NOT WORKABLE. YOU SEE, I AGREE WITH YOU THERE, IVAN. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU THERE. YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZE THE DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY, SO GAVE ALL THE LOCAL CITIES THE FLEXIBILITY. SO WE ARE NOT APPROVING ANY TAX RATE AT THIS MOMENT, BUT JUST GIVE THE CITY, THE AUTHORITY AND TO HAVE THIS KIND OF FLEXIBILITY, ESPECIALLY AFTER WE LOST A LOT OF ARRIVING. SO I THINK THIS PRODUCT TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT [04:00:01] AND AS FIRE AS THE FINAL RATE THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED. YEAH. ARE YOU ALL GOOD AWAY? THIS WAS THAT MAYOR. THIS IS GOING TO GIVE OUR STAFF AND THEIR FEARLESS, ANOTHER TOOL THAT THEY NEED, AND WE'LL HAVE TIME TO HASH OUT THE SPECIFICS ON IT, BUT WE CURRENTLY DO NOT WANT TO MISS THE OPPORTUNITY OF GIVING THEM THIS TOOL. THAT'S TRUE. UM, ANY MORE DISCUSSION, TOM, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS YOU CARE TO SHARE HERE? IF THERE'S NO MORE, IF IS NO MORE DISCUSSIONS, I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. ALRIGHT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT PAUL WATERMAN MADE A MOTION SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO JUMP INTO THE LAST ITEM [20. Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on CARES Act Programs.] TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON CARES. ACT PROGRAMS, LESS MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL TURN THE TIME OVER TO BILL FOR THIS PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BILL HOLLY. I'M THE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER ALSO AVAILABLE TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON THIS ITEM ARE TRACY EUBANKS. HE'S THE CEO OF METRO CHRIS SERVICES AND ORLANDO COMPOST. HE'S THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON. ON JUNE 9TH. COUNCIL WAS BRIEFED BY STAFF REGARDING THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN A CARES ACT REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM, OR APPROXIMATELY $900,000. COUNCIL APPROVED THAT IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH DALLAS COUNTY, FOR US TO PROCEED AND GAVE US DIRECTION REGARDING THREE PARTICULAR PROGRAMS THAT YOU WANTED US TO LOOK AT WORKING UNDER THE GUIDELINES FROM THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT IN DALLAS COUNTY, WE DEVELOPED THOSE PROGRAMS, ALMOST ADMITTED THEM TO THE DALLAS COUNTY TEAM FOR THEIR APPROVAL. WE GAIN THAT APPROVAL. AND AS PROMISED, WE WERE BRINGING THESE BACK FOR YOU TONIGHT FOR DISCUSSION AND FOR YOUR APPROVAL BEFORE WE PROCEED. SO THE FIRST PROGRAM IS TITLED THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND COMPLIANCE PROGRAM. WHEN WE FIRST DISCUSSED IT BACK IN JUNE, WE CALLED THAT THE TOWN REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS ALLOW THE TOWN TO SEEK REIMBURSEMENT FOR EXPENSES RELATED TO COVID-19. THOSE WOULD BE A PPE PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT, MASKS, GLOVES, UH, SANITIZING, PUBLIC BUILDINGS, AND ALSO ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT AND SOFTWARE RELATED TO TELEWORKS. OUR EMPLOYEES CAN WORK AND STILL SERVE OUR CITIZENS REMOTELY. WE RECOMMENDED THAT PROGRAM TO DALLAS COUNTY IN THE AMOUNT OF $115,000. UH YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT YOUR DIRECTION TO STAFF WAS TO DO THAT IN THE AMOUNT OF $200,000. WE LOWERED THAT BY 85,000 BECAUSE AT 85,000 IS THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAD PROVIDED AS A COMMUNITY AND EMERGENCY FUNDING TO METROCREST SERVICES AND UNDER THE, THE RULES AND THE GUIDANCE PROVIDED TO US THAT 85,000 WAS BETTER REFLECTED IN OUR SECOND PROGRAM. SO OUR SECOND PROGRAM IS A RESIDENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AND THAT IS TO DO ONE IS TO REIMBURSE THE TOWN FOR THE 85,000. WE'D ALREADY PROVIDED TO METROCREST SERVICES AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL $200,000 AND RESIDENT, UH, ASSISTANCE'S SERVICES THROUGH METROCREST SERVICES IN THE FORM OF RENT ASSISTANCE, FOOD ASSISTANCE, AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE. AND THEN THE THIRD PROGRAM WAS DEVELOPED BY ORLANDO COMPOST AND HIS TEAM, WHICH IS A $500,000 BUSINESS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WHERE ELIGIBLE BUSINESSES CAN PARTICIPATE, UH, UP TO $10,000 TO HAVE, UM, MORTGAGE AND OR RENT PAID, UM, OVER A TWO MONTH PERIOD UP TO THAT $10,000 AMOUNT. SO WE ARE BRINGING AGAIN, BRINGING THESE FORWARD TO YOU TONIGHT FOR DISCUSSION AND LOOKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND DIRECTION REGARDING PROCEEDING WITH THESE PROGRAMS. HEY BILL, THIS IS MARLIN. YES, SIR. UM, UM, UH, CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY IF YOU COULD, FOR THE ELIGIBLE BUSINESSES? UM, I'M JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE BULLET POINTS. ONE SAYS, MUST DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY CURRENTLY EMPLOY AT LEAST 15 ONE, 5% OF THE EMPLOYEES THEY HAD ON MARCH 1ST. UM, W WE, AND THESE ARE LIKE UNDER 50 EMPLOYEES AS OF MARCH 1ST. UH, THESE, UM, THESE ARE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE JUST KIND OF STILL IN BUSINESS, BUT KIND OF HIT, GOT HIT THE HARDEST. IS THAT, IS THAT THE THOUGHT [04:05:03] TAKE THAT I'LL GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THAT IS CORRECT. THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED IS TARGETING THE, UH, SMALLER BUSINESSES THAT EMPLOY LESS THAN 50 EMPLOYEES PRIOR TO MARCH 1ST. UM, AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY ARE CONTINUING TO BE IN BUSINESS AND THAT THEY AT LEAST CURRENTLY EMPLOY 15% OF THEIR TOTAL EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW. YEAH, THE WAY WE ARRIVED AT THAT NUMBER, AS WE LOOKED AT, UH, WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE WERE DOING. AND SO THIS SORT OF FIT INTO THAT MODEL OF TRYING TO SUPPORT THE SMALLER BUSINESSES THAT MAY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO TAP INTO SOME OF THE OTHER RESOURCES THAT WERE AVAILABLE SUCH AS THE, UM, PAYMENT PROTECTION PROGRAM AND OR SBA LOANS. OKAY. AND YOU'VE GOT ORLANDO, THERE'S A BULLET POINT. THIS IS MUST, MUST HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS IN ADDISON AS OF SEPTEMBER ONE OF LAST YEAR. AND, AND SO, UH, THESE ARE, I GUESS THAT BULLET POINT IS, IS STATING, YOU KNOW, IF I OPENED UP A, WITHIN THE LAST MONTH, I WOULDN'T APPLY, I NEEDED TO BE IN BUSINESS PRE SEPTEMBER 1ST, IS THAT, AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? THAT IS CORRECT. AND THAT'S THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THAT IS TO REWARD THOSE BUSINESSES WHO HAVE BEEN HERE IN ADDISON FOR AWHILE AND TO HELP SUPPORT THEIR LONGEVITY INTO THE FUTURE. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. HEY, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ORLANDO. YES, SIR. UM, I FIND THIS, WE ALLOCATE A $500,000 FOR THIS PROGRAM, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS MY COMMON SENSE AND KNOWLEDGE OF THE PEOPLE IN BUSINESS. I KNOW THERE ARE NO ONE I KNOW DIDN'T APPLY FOR PVP BECAUSE THAT'S THE FIRST PREREQUISITES AND TO BE ELIGIBLE. AND THEN AS I, AS YOU APPLY FOR PBP OR SBA LAW, YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE. SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE ANYONE DIDN'T TAKE THIS ADVANTAGE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR MY UNDERSTANDING HIS SMALL BUSINESS FOR ALL THE RESTAURANT OWNER AND ALSO OTHER RETAIL BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T EVEN IMAGINE ANYBODY THAT DIDN'T TAKE THIS ADVANTAGE. SO IN OTHER WORDS, BY DOING SO, I DON'T KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, BUT IF I DOING SO, THE FIRST ELIGIBILITY IS YOUR DID NOT RECEIVE ANY FUNDING FROM SBA AND ALSO AN EITHER OR THEY, UM, THE PPP ALMOST AND BELIEVABLE. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, IN OTHER WORDS, NOBODY'S ELIGIBLE. SO THEN YOU'RE, WE'LL FUND THIS HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WAS SITTING THERE, YOU KNOW, AND NOBODY ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY IT. THEY DID, THEY RECEIVE THIS. SO, UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST CANNOT SAY, YOU'LL FILL OUT THE APPLICATION FORM, SAY I DIDN'T RECEIVE IT. SO YOU HAVE TO DO SOME INVESTIGATION. SO, UH, SO MY CHALLENGE TO YOU IS I, NUMBER ONE, I THOUGHT ANYBODY DIDN'T TAKE THIS ADVANTAGE, APPLY FOR PVP OR SBA LOAN. NOW, IF THEY DIDN'T. YEAH, I ELIGIBLE, BUT IF THEY ALL APPLY FOR IT, SO NOBODY'S ELIGIBLE. SO, UM, SO THAT, THAT'S MY QUESTION AND HOW YOU'LL REALLY IDENTIFY AND VERIFY THOSE, THOSE, UH, APPLICANT'S FOOT PER SE. YEAH, SURE. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'LL MENTION. AND ONE OF THE DIRECTIONS THAT WE GOT FROM DALLAS COUNTY WAS THAT THEY DID NOT WANT TO SEE LOCAL BUSINESSES SORT OF DOUBLE DIPPING INTO PROGRAMS. THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FUNDING WAS SPREAD OUT TO, UH, THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE MOST IN NEED. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE EXCLUDED BUSINESSES WHO MAY HAVE RECEIVED PPP FUNDING OR OTHER FUNDING FROM BEING ELIGIBLE FOR OUR PROGRAM, UH, ITSELF. THE OTHER THING THAT WE DID IN ANTICIPATION [04:10:01] OF THIS WAS A FEW WEEKS AGO, WE SENT OUT A SURVEY TO ALL LOCAL BUSINESSES TO SORT OF TRY TO ENGAGE, UH, WHAT THEIR, UH, I GUESS, HOW THEY WERE DOING DURING THE CURRENT SITUATION. AND ALSO TRY TO ENGAGE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF BUSINESSES THAT DID NOT APPLY FOR ANY OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WERE PROVIDED. AND SURPRISINGLY, WHAT WE REALIZED AT THAT IS THAT THERE WERE QUITE A NUMBER OF SMALL BUSINESSES THAT RESPONDED, THAT SAID THAT THEY DID NOT, UH, APPLY FOR THE, UH, THE PROGRAMS THEY SORT OF FELT AND SAW THE FACT THAT, UH, IT WAS A LONG PROGRAM INITIALLY. AND THEY WERE WORRIED THAT IF THEY WOULD BE, UH, REQUIRED TO PAY BACK THAT LOAN, THAT THEY WOULD SORT OF FALL DEEPER INTO THE HOLE. SO ONE, THEY DID NOT APPLY FOR IT OR AT THE END, THEY DECIDED NOT TO, UH, ACCEPT THE FUNDS. SO THE OTHER THING THAT WE WILL ALSO BE DOING IS THAT THE US TREASURY DEPARTMENT, UH, IS STARTING TO REVEAL THE LIST OF COMPANIES THAT RE DID RECEIVE FUNDING THROUGH THE PPP LOAN AND OTHER SOURCES. SO WE'LL DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO, UM, LOOK AT THOSE, TO MAKE SURE THAT BUSINESSES DID NOT, UM, THAT ARE QUALIFIED FOR OUR PROGRAM, DID NOT RECEIVE ANY OTHER FUNDING SOURCE. AND WE WILL ALSO SHARE THE NAMES OF, UH, OUR BUSINESSES WITH THE COUNTY OF DALLAS AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN PROGRAM THAT THEY ARE LAUNCHING, WHICH WILL BE, UH, WE WILL INFORM LOCAL BUSINESSES AS WELL. THANK YOU ALL ENDO, IF THE MONEY WERE TO BE UNSPENT, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO REALLOCATE? YES, SIR. WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH DALLAS COUNTY. UH, SO AGAIN, IN, WITHIN ONE PARTICULAR PROGRAM, LIKE THE, UH, THE, THE, THE FIRST ONE MENTIONED WHERE WE REIMBURSED THE TOWN. IF WE HAD MORE EXPENSES IN SAY THE TELEWORK AREA THAN WE DID IN THE, IN THE PPE AREA, WE COULD MOVE THOSE FUNDS, UH, WITHIN INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS. AND THEN AS A COMMUNITY, AS A WHOLE, IF WE FIND THAT WE HAVE A FUNDING LEFT IN, UH, IN ONE PARTICULAR PROGRAM AND WE HAVE A NEED IN ANOTHER PROGRAM, THERE'S A PROCESS WHERE WE WOULD JUST GO BACK THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS WITH DALLAS COUNTY. AND THE REASON WE, WE REALLY WANT TO DO THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS A REIMBURSEMENT. SO THE PREAPPROVAL PROCESS IS A WAY TO JUST SCREEN THAT OUR LIKELIHOOD OF ULTIMATELY GETTING THOSE, GETTING THOSE FUNDS BACK AND APPROVED AND NOT CLAWED BACK BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, IS IT, WE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. WE'VE BEEN VETTED. WE'VE MADE SURE THAT WHAT WE WERE DOING IS APPROPRIATE AND WITH IT WITHIN THE GUIDANCE HAS BEEN PROVIDED, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY IT'S KIND OF CHANGING EVERY WEEK. IT STARTED OFF AS FOUR PAGES AND IT'S GROWN TO 20 PAGES. AND THEN THE INTERPRETATION OF THE 20 PAGES HAS GROWN INTO A HUNDRED PAGES. SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A MOVING TARGET, UH, AS, AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT IT. SO, UH, WE'VE TAKEN A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, UH, CORE VALUES, KEY THINGS THAT REALLY NOBODY'S GOING TO ARGUE WITH HELPING PEOPLE WITH FOOD ASSISTANCE AND RENT ASSISTANCE, UH, SANITIZING, PUBLIC BUILDINGS, ET CETERA. SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE, ARE GETTING A LITTLE OFF, OFF FROM THOSE CORE VALUES. AND YOU KNOW, THAT THAT MAY BE FINE, BUT IT ALSO MAY COME BACK TO HAUNT THEM LATER ON IF THE, IF THE FEDS CALL THAT MONEY BACK, THANK YOU. JUST LIKE A PB PEW CLIMATE. IN THE BEGINNING, THEY TALK ABOUT, UH, 80% NEED TO USE FOR, UH, UH, EMPLOYEES, PAYROLL, THEN 20% USE FOR RENT AND, UH, OVERHEAD. THEN LATER ON VIDEO SET TO 60% FOR PAYROLL AND THE 40% USE FOR, UH, UH, OVERHEAD AND THE RENT. SO THEY'RE STILL CHANGING IT, YOU KNOW? SO EVERY DAY I RECEIVE SOME NOTIFICATION IN A C WAIT, SO YOU HAVE TO SEND THEM ALL THE RIGHT INFORMATION. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY AND THE WRITE OFF ALL THOSE SHOULD BP. SO, UH, I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, THOSE SET OF RULES WILL BE DONE. SO WE'D BE A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE WHAT WE'RE DOING. I THINK WE'LL BE WAITING A WHILE MAY OR UNFORTUNATELY I THINK THE GOVERNMENT AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, OR EVEN THE COUNTY WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE TO EVOLVE. I THINK WHAT, WHAT GIVES US COMFORT IN MOVING FORWARD IS THAT IF WE KEEP WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING, SPENDING THE MONEY ON SIMPLE AND, AND, AND FOCUSED ON CORE THINGS, THEN WE WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT CHANGES BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY, ESSENTIALLY, [04:15:02] WHAT WOULD THE TIMEFRAME BE FOR ROLLING THIS OUT? WHAT THE COUNCIL APPROVES IT TONIGHT, WE'LL START TOMORROW. THIS PROGRAM IS CONCERNING. WE'VE GOT A WEB WEB PAGE ALREADY READY TO GO AS WELL AS AN EMAIL BLAST, UH, BY TOMORROW. I CAN'T, I CAN'T HAPPEN FAST ENOUGH. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE IN NEED AND THEY'VE WORKED HARD AND THEN WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK HARD. AND I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROVAL. THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE BEGINNING OF EMOTION, LAURIE. YES. IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. SO I HAD A LAURIE METTA MOTION AND I WAS SECONDED, BUT BEFORE I CALL FOR THE VOTE, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE A WAY DO IT RIGHT AS SECURING THIS BECAUSE IN MY MIND IS IT'S A HARD TO BELIEVE THEY DIDN'T APPLY FOR ANYTHING DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING. AND THEN HOMEAWAY SQUINTING THIS OUT. WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS. AND THEN, THEN THE APPLICANTS WON'T DOUBLE DIP APPLY FOR IT. THEN GET US, DIDN'T SAY THEY RECEIVED THAT. SO THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WE MAKE SURE WE DO RISING. SO THERE'S STILL A LOT OF MONEY. WE HAVE A GREAT HEART ON THE HELP THEM, BUT ALSO THEY HAVE TO REALLY COMPLY WITH A SPEC. YEAH. SO WITH THAT SHIN, THE SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. ALRIGHT. MEETING THE JOURNEY. I KNOW TOO LONG, JUST REAL QUICK. I KNOW YOU USED DURING THE MEETING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING I WANTED TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR GOOD WORK. THIS WAS A LONG MEETING, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR PREPARATION AND ATTENTION. AND I ALSO WANTED TO ECHO EVERYBODY'S SENTIMENTS ABOUT THE GOOD WORK THAT STAFF DID. UH, THIS WAS, UH, A LOT OF WORK TO GET THIS MEETING READY, AND I THINK THEY DID IT GREAT, UH, AT A HIGH LEVEL. AND I WANTED TO JUST SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DID GO. WE HAVE A GOOD LEADER AND I SEE US HOW WELL WE'RE RECORDING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.