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[Call to Order]
EVENING EVERYBODY.IT IS FIVE 30 AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 27TH, 2026.
THIS IS OUR WORK SESSION PORTION OF THE MEETING, AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT, UH, THIS EVENING WITH SIX OF US PRESENT IN THE ROOM.
AND THEN WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER GARDNER JOINING US, UH, VIA ZOOM ONLINE.
AND, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
[2. Proclamations and Presentations]
OUR ITEM NUMBER TWO, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS THE TWO A 2026 FOOD SERVICE, SAFETY AND SANITATION AWARDS RECOGNITION.AND THAT'LL BE SANDRA WALKING US THROUGH THAT.
UH, EVERY YEAR WE PRESENT AWARDS TO THE RESTAURANTS IN TOWN WHO HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB IN FOOD SERVICE, SAFETY AND SANITATION.
WE DO IT IN THREE CATEGORIES, FULL SERVICE, FAST FOOD, AND SANDWICH DELI.
THE WINNERS REPRESENT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PUT FORTH EFFORT AND A LOT OF, UH, UH, TOIL AND HARD WORK AND EVERYTHING WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES TO ACHIEVE THIS, THESE RECOGNIZES WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE YEAR WITH ZERO FOOD SERVICE, FOOD CODE VIOLATIONS, WHICH IS A TREMENDOUS SUCCESS.
AS I CALL YOUR NAME, WILL YOU PLEASE COME UP FRONT AND WE WILL PRESENT SOME PLAQUES AS, UH, AN ADDITIONAL AWARD, UH, WITH THE PLAQUES.
THEIR RENEWAL FEES FOR THE 27 FISCAL YEAR ARE ALSO WAIVED SO THAT WE CAN'T GIVE THEM MONEY, BUT WE CAN GIVE THEM A WAIVER.
ZERO VIOLATIONS FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR.
I WANNA ROUND APPLAUSE FOR THAT.
YOU BROUGHT US, WE HAVE JASON
JASON ZEL, SIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
BRING GREAT FOOD SERVICE, ADDISON AND CHICK-FIL-A.
ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.
COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS.
CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW.
THE COUNCIL'S NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
I DON'T HAVE ANY COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS IN FRONT OF ME.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE, IN THE, UH, GROUP THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT.
[Council Member Clarification on Consent Agenda Items]
FOUR, COUNCIL MEMBER CLARIFICATION ON CONSENT.AGENDA ITEMS FOR A, IS THERE ANY CONSENT, UH, ITEMS, ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT HE HAVE? QUESTIONS OR NEEDS CLARIFICATION? MAYOR, THAT'LL BE FROM MARLON.
I'VE GOT ONE FOR FOUR, FOUR C FOR I GUESS STEVEN.
UM, I'LL GIVE HIM A SECOND TO GET UP THERE.
STEVEN, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD IS ON THIS ITEM IT WAS, UM, THIS IS TRUIST I BELIEVE OR NO CONNECT, CONNECT INVESTMENT TRUST.
AND IT WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, THERE WAS SOME BULLET POINTS, UM, AT THE TOP AND IT WAS TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN TYPES OF INVESTMENTS, COLLATERALIZED CDS AND, AND, UH, REPOS OR REPURCHASE AGREEMENTS.
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CAN YOU SHARE ANY COLOR, LIKE, UH, THOSE TYPICAL, UM, INVESTMENTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE FROM SOME OF OUR OTHER, OTHER, UH, SOURCES? YEAH, THOSE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, INVESTMENTS THAT ARE ALL APPROVED BY THE PUBLIC FUNDS INVESTMENT ACT.UH, THOSE ARE INVESTMENTS THAT ARE OTHER INVESTMENT POOLS, UH, CURRENTLY INVEST IN.
SO THIS IS A VERY SIMILAR INVESTMENT POOL TO THE CURRENT ONES THAT WE'RE A MEMBER OF, WHICH IS TECHSTAR TECH POOL LOGIC, UH, IN TEXAS CLASS.
SO THIS WOULD BE OUR FIFTH INVESTMENT POOL.
THEY ALL INVEST IN BASICALLY THE SAME, THEY'VE GOT THOSE, THEY'VE GOT REPOS AND THAT'S CORRECT.
CHRIS, I JUST HAD A FOLLOW UP BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
WHY, WHY WOULD WE GO THROUGH ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS RATHER THAN A BANK? UH, SO ONE, BANKS REALLY DON'T WANNA ACCEPT OUR MONEY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO FULLY COLLATERALIZE IT.
UM, SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO GET THEM TO INVEST ONE AT A MARKET RATE BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET A MARKET RATE.
SO THE STATE HAS, YOU KNOW, MADE IT WHERE THESE INVESTMENT POOLS GET CREATED THROUGH THE STATE AND IT'S BASICALLY A WAY THAT WE CAN INVEST OUR MONEY IN A REALLY SAFE THING THAT WILL GET A MARKET OKAY.
RATE WITHOUT, AND JUST BANKS ARE JUST MORE DIFFICULT TO GO AND SAY, HEY, YOU HAVE TO GET ALL OF THIS COLLATERALIZED AND THAT KIND OF THING BECAUSE WE'RE REQUIRED TO BE FULLY COLLATERALIZED AS WELL.
THAT, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT QUESTION.
SO IT IS FULLY COLLATERALIZED THEN THROUGH THIS CONNECT INVESTMENT OR TEXAS CONNECT? CORRECT.
'CAUSE I WENT TO THEIR WEBSITE AND THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT THERE, BUT, UM, YEAH, SOME INVESTMENTS HAVE TO BE COLLATERALIZED.
SO FOR INSTANCE, IF THEY GO OUT AND THEY'RE BUYING GOVERNMENT AGENCIES OR SOMETHING, THOSE AREN'T COLLATERALIZED.
NOW, WHEN WE GO OUT AND BUY GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, THEY'RE NOT COLLATERALIZED EITHER, BUT WHEN WE DO HAVE DEPOSITS AT A BANK, THE BANK HAS TO FULLY COLLATERALIZE THOSE DEPOSITS.
SO ANYTHING, IF WE GO OUT AND DO JUST A SAVINGS ACCOUNT AT THE, AT THE BANK OR A CD AT THE BANK THAT'S ABOVE FDIC INSURANCE, WE HAVE TO GET THAT FULLY COLLATERALIZED.
I I, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS GA LITTLE BIT, GET A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION ON G WHOEVER WOULD DO THAT AS FAR AS THANK YOU.
ARE THESE REPLACEMENTS, ARE THESE NEW? ARE THEY DUE TO DAMAGE AGE, THAT KIND OF THING? I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING.
UH, BILL HOLLY GENERAL SERVICES, WHICH INCLUDES BILLING AND FLEET ALSO HERE TONIGHT.
SEAN ALLEN, WHO'S OUR ASSET AND FLEET MANAGER.
AND THEN IF THERE'S SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC VEHICLES, HE CAN HELP ANSWER THOSE AND POSSIBLY MAYBE THE DEPARTMENT.
BUT WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE ALL OUR ASSETS ARE INCLUDED IN A, THEY HAVE A PROJECTED LIFE WHEN THEY REACH, UH, THAT END OF PROJECTED LIFE, WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE WE EVALUATE THEIR AGE, THEIR USE, THEIR MAINTENANCE HISTORY, DO WE THINK THEY CAN GO ANOTHER YEAR OR NOT? SO ANY VEHICLE THAT COMES UP IN THE PROCESS GOES THROUGH THAT, UH, GOES THROUGH THAT STEP.
IF IT IS ON THIS LIST, IT'S BEEN THROUGH THAT STEP.
SOME THAT ARE ON THIS LIST WERE UP A YEAR OR TWO YEARS AGO AND GOT BUMPED SOME VEHICLES THAT WERE DUE THIS YEAR.
THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE DETERMINED CAN GO ONE MORE YEAR AND WE'LL JUST KEEP EVALUATING THOSE UNTIL THEY REACH THAT POINT WHERE WE THINK THE, THE VALUE, THE CHANCE OF IT BREAKING DOWN, FAILING US OR INCURRING A MAJOR EXPENSE THAT OUTWEIGHS THE REMAINING VALUE OF THE VEHICLE.
SO THAT'S HOW WE, WE DO THOSE.
AND THEN STEVEN AND FINANCES COME UP WITH A GREAT, THE SERVE PROGRAM, WHICH YOU'LL SEE MENTIONED IN THERE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE ANTICIPATING AND EACH DEPARTMENT IS CONTRIBUTING OVER THE LIFE OF THAT VEHICLE.
SO WHEN IT COMES TIME THAT, THAT MONEY IS GENERALLY THERE, UNLESS WE'VE HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT INFLATION OR DIFFICULT EVENT, BUT THE MONEY IS THERE TO REPLACE THOSE.
SO WE JUST KIND OF HAVE A SEAMLESS TRANSITION OF OUR, OF OUR ASSETS.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
TWO, TWO OF THE 12 ARE DECISION PACKAGES, UM, THAT WERE APPROVED, LIKE FOR GENERAL SERVICES, WE GOT THE HVAC TECHNICIAN, UH, THAT PERSON WAS NEW, IT NEEDED A VEHICLE.
SO ONE OF THOSE 12 IS, UH, FY 27 DECISION PACKAGE ITEM THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET.
WELL, MY LIST SAYS 13, BUT I I I, OKAY, I GET THAT.
BUT ONE OF THESE OTHERS COULDN'T HAVE BEEN TRANSITIONED IN THAT.
SO, SO OUR PROCESS IS A PROCESS OF EVALUATION, NOT BASED ON X NUMBER OF YEARS, THE VEHICLE'S BEEN IN SERVICE, UM, ODOMETER READING.
SO IT ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH A PROCESS AND WE CAN EXTEND OR REQUEST YES, SIR.
THERE ARE, AND THEN WE ALSO LOOK AT TO, TO YOUR POINT, IF MAYBE WE HAVE A VEHICLE THAT NO LONGER FITS A DEPARTMENT'S NEED, MAYBE IT HAS A PURPOSE ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY, WE ALSO RETAIN SOME IN A KIND OF A POOL CAPACITY.
SOMETIMES AND POLICE FLEET VEHICLES OR KIND OF NOTORIOUS FOR HAVING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OUT THERE ON THE ROAD ALL DAY EVERY DAY.
IF THEY HAVE A WRECK, WE KEEP SOME OF THOSE WHERE WE CAN JUST SUB THEM IN, UH, SOME OF THE, THE PICKUP
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TRUCKS THAT MAY HAVE DUAL, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT CAN TOW, UH, AND IT MAY HAVE USED, REACHED THE END OF ITS DAILY USEFUL LIFE, BUT WE HANG ON TO IT FOR ANOTHER YEAR AS A, AS A BACKUP OR A FILL IN.UM, SO WE'RE, WE'VE DEFINITELY, THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY.
UH, IT'S A HUGE NUMBER OF ASSETS.
THAT'S THE REASON THAT I BRING IT UP.
THIS IS A LARGE CHUNK TO JUST SAY IT IS, NO, IT'S NOT JUST A FORMULA.
OFF IT GOES, IT GOES THROUGH A NUMBER OF STEPS, HOURS, CONDITION, A LOT OF, A LOT OF THINGS ARE CONSIDERED, AND MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, WE'RE EXTENDING THEM A YEAR, TWO YEARS PAST THAT ANTICIPATED LIFE.
AND DO WE GO TO THROUGH ANY BID PROCESS WITH DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS OR ARE WE A, IN THIS CASE FOR, THERE'S FLEET FORD IN CHEVY? SO WE GO TO THE, THE PURCHASING COOPERATIVES.
SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF COOPERATIVES IN THE STATE THAT GO OUT TO ALL THESE BIG FLEET DEALERS, RIGHT? AND THEY SAY WHAT'S, WHAT'S A, WHAT'S A BASE F-150 COST? AND THEY, THEY ALL BID ON THAT.
AND OF COURSE THEY WANT, IF THEY GET ON THAT LIST AS THE LOW F-150 PROVIDER, THEY'RE GONNA SELL THOUSANDS OF THOSE TRUCKS ACROSS THE STATE.
SO WE GET AMAZING PRICES ON THOSE COMPARED TO IF WE HAD TO GO JUST ONE OFF US GOING TO THE LOT.
BUT WE'RE ABLE TO GO TO THOSE CO-OPS AND PICK FROM, YOU'LL SEE HOUSTON, GALVESTON AREA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT, YOU'LL SEE TIPS, WHICH IS, UM, ANOTHER COOPERATIVE.
SO WE SHOP THOSE CO-OPS AND WE SHOP THE BRANDS.
AND IF THEY'RE EQUAL, AND WE CAN GO A THOUSAND DOLLARS HERE, OUR FLEET TECHNICIANS ARE CAPABLE OF, WE HAVE A CHEVY TY HOSE IN THE FLEET.
SO WE CAN DO A FORD TRUCK OR A CHEVY TRUCK, AN SUV FOR EITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO BRANDS.
BUT THAT TENDS TO BE FORD AND CHEVY ARE THE, THE TWO PRIMARY WITH FORD BEING MAYBE 80% OR MORE OF, OF THE TOTAL FLEET.
ARE THERE ANY, IT JUST SAYS 13 VEHICLES.
ARE THERE ANY SPECIALTY TYPE VEHICLES IN THAT 13? OR ARE THESE ALL, CAN YOU JUST GIMME A, A RUNDOWN OF, OF WHAT DEPARTMENT IS, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, IS THERE A, I KNOW WE HAD A, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR BIG LIMB ARM TRUCK HAD BROKEN DOWN OR SOMETHING.
HAVE WE, IS THAT INCLUDED IN HERE? I THINK YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IN EXHIBIT A OF OUR AGENDA PACKET.
WE HAVE A, WE DO HAVE A BIG CHART.
UM, SO, UH, POLICE INTERCEPTORS, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 4, UM, A CHEVY TRAVERSE, WHICH IS ALSO A POLICE VEHICLE.
UH, THE CHEVY SILVERADO PICKUP, WHICH IS THEIR QUARTERMASTER, WHICH MOVES ALL THEIR STUFF AROUND IT TOWS THE MOTORCYCLES ON THE TRAILER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THERE'S A CHEVY TAHOE FOR THE AIRPORT.
UH, THIS, THIS IS ONE OF THE LARGE SPECIALTY VEHICLES, UM, F 600 DUMP TRUCK.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY LARGE, WITH A SPECIALIZED VAN, WHICH LEADS TO YES, SIR.
LEADS TO KIND OF THIS NUMBER THE, BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO THE MATH ON 13 AT $900,000, THAT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE.
AND THAT'S WHAT, YEAH, EXACTLY.
AND THE PEOPLE JUST NEED TO KNOW, THESE ARE NOT THE NORMAL RUN AROUND VEHICLES THAT YOU'RE SEEING GOING THROUGH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY DAY.
AND, AND THAT'S MY, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT HERE TONIGHT.
AND THEN YOU ALSO NOTE ON THE POLICE VEHICLES, THERE'S UPFITTING, SO ALL THEIR EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT AND SIRENS AND LIGHTS AND, AND SOME OF THE OTHER COMPONENTS THAT GO IN, THOSE ARE A PART OF THAT PRICE AS WELL.
SO, AND THIS, THIS TAHOE THAT'S GOING TO THE AIRPORT, IS THAT NOT COMING OUT THE AIRPORT FUND? WHY, WHY IS THAT NOT COMING OUT THE AIRPORT FUND RATHER THAN THE GENERAL FUND? IT'S PART OFER.
SO SER SO THEY'VE BEEN MAKING CONTRIBUTIONS INTO THAT S FUND, SO, AND DAVID, PLEASE STEP IN IF I WANNA BE SPEAKING, THE AIRPORT IS PAYING FOR IT.
THEY SEND MONEY TO THE SURF FUND AND THE SURF PAY FUND.
THEN THAT, THAT'S AGAIN, JUST WHAT I WANT TO HEAR.
SO, AND THE PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR THAT, SO, OKAY.
YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION ALSO FOR BILL.
UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE, UM, THE ITEM SAYS 13 VEHICLES, UH, THE BACKGROUND DOES, AND THERE'S ONLY 12 LISTED.
IT'S, IT'S 10 WITH TWO DECISION PACKAGE.
UH, THE ORIGINAL LEDGE, CAN YOU GO PLEASE? YEAH, SORRY.
HI, UH, SEAN ALLEN, ASSET AND, UH, FLEET, UH, ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON.
UM, WHEN WE, UH, WHEN I INITIALLY ENTERED IT INTO THE SYSTEM, IT POPULATED AND I TRIED TO FIX IT.
UH, WE WERE LOOKING AT SOME DIFFERENT VEHICLES THAT ULTIMATELY JUST COULDN'T PASS, UH, WHAT I NEEDED, UH, TO, TO PASS 'EM ON FOR, FOR CONSIDERATION FOR REPLACEMENT.
AND SO, UH, WE HAD, I HAD THAT ONE REMOVED.
I TRIED TO FIX IT IN THE, IN THE SYSTEM AND IT WOULDN'T DO IT, THE RESOLUTION.
WHAT? YEAH, I DIDN'T, NO, NO PROBLEM.
THE RESOLUTION IS CORRECT THOUGH.
IT'S, UH, IN THE EXHIBIT THERE, SIR.
YEAH, I DIDN'T CHECK THE TABLE'S, THE ATTACHMENT.
SO JUST ONE REFERENCE IN THE, IS THAT ALL YOU HAD, DARREN?
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YES, THAT'S ALL I GOT.AND ON THIS SAME ITEM, I GUESS TO, TO RANDY'S POINT, ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO LOOK INTO THIS FOR MORE, YOU CAN FIND IT IN THE AGENDA PACKET UNDER EXHIBIT A.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO, TO SEE.
UM, SO, UM, BILL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, IS IN THE AGENDA PACKET, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAY IT AND I WANNA MAKE SURE WE ALL UNDERSTAND IT.
IS, UM, PART OF THIS IS COMING FROM THE ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN.
SO THERE'S AN ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM SYSTEM THAT TRACKS ALL THE TOWN'S ASSETS.
AND AGAIN, IT, UM, IT PROJECTS, UH, IT, IT PUTS OUT REPORTS THAT TELL US, PLEASE TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THESE.
THEY'RE REACHING THE NEAR THE END OF THEIR LIFE.
BUT AGAIN, IF IT WAS LIGHTLY USED, WE CAN EXTEND IT.
RIGHT? BUT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT TRIGGERS THE YES, SIR.
THE WHOLE, IT SAYS TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THESE.
AND SO THE OTHER QUESTION IS, IS, UM, UH, GOING BACK IN TIME, I JUST REMEMBER WE HAD LIKE, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS 18 VEHICLES, 18 POLICE SQUAD CARS, WE'D, WE'D APPROVE ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WHEN I STARTED DIGGING INTO THIS, I WAS KIND OF, THAT, THAT WAS MY EXPECTATION.
HAVE WE CHANGED THAT TO LIKE PHASES WHERE WE JUST GET FIVE A YEAR? FIVE OR SO? YES, SIR.
WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO STEP THOSE THROUGH, UM, OR SOME A LITTLE AHEAD, SAVE SOME IN RESERVE, STRETCH SOME A LITTLE BIT LONGER SO THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THEM ALL AT ONE IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THAT MANY AT ONCE.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PROCESS AND CHANGE AN ENTIRE FLEET OVER ALL AT ONCE.
SO, UH, AND THEN STEVEN, CORRECT ME, I THINK AT A, AT A PREVIOUS MEETING WE ALLUDED TO THAT, BUT YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE SO MUCH MATERIAL.
BUT THAT IS A, A PROCESS WHERE, UH, COMING OUTTA COVID, WE, WE HAD TO DO THEM ALL AT ONCE AND WE WERE LIKE, NEVER AGAIN, PLEASE, LET'S NOT DO THAT.
SO WE, WE LAID OUT AND STEPPED OUT OF A PLAN.
WE DO, JUST IN CASE IT COMES UP SOMETIME IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS OR SO, COMING OUTTA COVID VEHICLES, WERE VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND.
WE HAD TO ORDER 64 VEHICLES IN ONE YEAR, LIKE 2022.
SO ABOUT SEVEN YEARS FROM, SO 20, 29, YOU'RE GONNA SEE KIND OF ANOTHER WAY.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO SMOOTH THAT OUT SO THAT IT DOESN'T HIT, 'CAUSE AGAIN, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THEM ALL IN, GET THEM PROCESSED, DO ALL THE CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO DO.
UM, SO, BUT WE WON'T SELL 'EM EARLY JUST TO MAKE IT EASY ON OURSELVES, BUT WE WILL GET GOOD USE AND LIFE OUT OF THEM.
BUT IF WE CAN ALSO DO IT WHERE WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, A SET NUMBER EVERY YEAR THAT'S AVERAGED, UM, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S JUST EASIER ON EVERYBODY.
AND SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE GET THESE VEHICLES, ASSUMING THIS PASSES AND WE GET THESE VEHICLES, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT, UM, WHAT OCCURS WITH THE VEHICLES THAT, THAT, THAT THESE ARE REPLACING? SURE.
SO THERE ARE, WE, UH, MANY GO TO AUCTION.
UM, SOME, UH, SO THAT WILL BE, THERE'S A, A PROFESSIONAL GROUP THEY ADVERTISE NATIONWIDE.
WE'VE GOTTEN GREAT, UM, MONEY OUT OF, OUT OF THOSE, UH, SALES, UH, FROM THAT.
AND, UM, SOME MAY BE RETAINED IN OUR SYSTEM IN A DIFFERENT USE.
MAYBE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT HAD ASKED FOR A NEW VEHICLE.
SOMEBODY WAS LOOKING TO RETIRE SOMETHING AND WE'RE LIKE, WELL, LET'S, LET'S MOVE THIS HERE OR TRY IT.
WE KEEP A FEW IN A, IN A POOL, UH, TYPE SETTING TO FILL IN, IN CASE ONE GETS DAMAGED BEYOND REPAIR, UH, OR HAS SOME KIND OF MAJOR, WE CAN, WE CAN PULL SOMETHING OUTTA RESERVE REALLY QUICK, BUT THEN THEY'LL ULTIMATELY GO OFF AND BE SENT TO AUCTION.
AND, UH, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN REPLACED.
SNEAK A SECOND ONE IN SOMEHOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL TRACKED.
YOU GET TO REPLACE IT ONCE, WE MAY HANG ON TO IT FOR A BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME FOR, FOR SOME PURPOSE, AND THEN IT GOES AWAY TO AUCTION.
AND THAT'S A A VERY GOOD POINT.
HOW MANY VEHICLES DO WE HAVE IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON? SO CLOSE TO 200.
AND THAT INCLUDES POLICE, CARS, FIRE, FIRE, PUMPERS, LADDERS, PICKUP TRUCKS, MOTORCYCLES, MAYBE SOME TRACTORS, UH, SOME LARGE EQUIPMENT.
AND HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO WE HAVE? 300.
SO, SO WE'RE ALMOST, WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO ON THAT.
SO YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF EMPLOYEES WHO NEVER TOUCH A CITY VEHICLE.
AND THEN THERE'S, UH, THERE'S SOME THAT, 'CAUSE A TRAILER WILL COUNT IN THAT.
SO IF YOU HAVE A TRUCK AND A TRAILER, IT'S PULLING A, IS PULLING A TRACTOR ON IT.
SO YOU MIGHT GET ONE GUY PULLING THREE VEHICLES.
SO I, I THREE ITEMS, RIGHT? I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HOW MANY, WHAT I CONSIDER A VEHICLE WITH A DRIVES ON ITS OWN DRIVING ON ITS OWN IS WHAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING ABOUT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT? OKAY.
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BILL.
AND, UH, ITEM FOUR A COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
UH, WHEN THE COUNCIL HAS QUESTIONS AHEAD OF, UH, COUNCIL MEETING, THEY SEND 'EM TO STAFF.
THOSE, UH, QUESTIONS ARE RESPONDED
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TO IN WRITING AND PREPARED, PUT INTO ONE DOCUMENT, THEN SEND IT TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, UH, TO REVIEW THOSE, UH, QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.AND, UH, THAT SAME DOCUMENT IS UPLOADED TO THE TOWN WEBSITE.
SO ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THAT BY GOING TO THE TOWN WEBSITE, ADDISON TX.GOV.
FIND THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETING AND THERE'LL BE A LINK WITHIN THAT, UH, WITHIN THAT AGENDA FOR THEM TO DOWNLOAD THAT Q AND A DOCUMENT.
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD ANY Q QUESTIONS THIS TIME, RIGHT? NO, WE DID NOT.
[Closed Session]
FIVE, CLOSED SESSION.THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL WILL ENTER A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 5 5 1 0 7 1 TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING.
ITEM FIVE, A SECTION 5 51 0 7 4 PERSONNEL MATTERS, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE TO TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, THE REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE PERTAINING TO MUNICIPAL COURT PRESIDING IN, ALTERNATE ALTERNATE JUDGES.
IT IS 5 51 AND WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THIS TIME.
[Open Meeting]
GOOD.IT IS, UH, 6 25 AND WE'RE COMING BACK INTO OPEN SESSION FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION.
THERE'S NO ACTION FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE FROM THAT CLOSED SESSION.
AGAIN, IT IS 6 25 COMING IN TO OPEN SESSION AND WE
[a. Present and discuss a summary of the Public Works Line Maintenance Division internal review.]
WILL MOVE INTO ITEM SEVEN A, UM, SESSION A OR WORK SESSION REPORTS, UH, PRESENT, PRESENT AND DISCUSS A SUMMARY OF THE PUBLIC WORKS LINE, MAINTENANCE DIVISION, INTERNAL REVIEW, AND DAVID JETS COMMENTS FIRST.AND I DON'T WANNA STEAL SOME OF SARAH'S SARAH'S THUNDER WITH THE, THE FIRST SIGN IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST ONE OF THESE WE'VE DONE AND I WANT TO SHARE A LITTLE INSIGHT AND THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THESE.
UH, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN FOCUSED ON RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS OF LOOKING FOR MORE, MORE EFFICIENT WAYS TO DO THINGS AND GO INTO OUR EMPLOYEES TO FIND BETTER WAYS TO DO THINGS.
THIS IS REALLY THE NEXT ITERATION OF THAT, WHERE WE'RE GOING DIVISION BY DIVISION THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION TO DIG INTO HOW WE'RE OPERATING, WHAT IMPROVEMENTS CAN WE MAKE, HOW CAN WE BECOME MORE EFFICIENT OR JUST DO THINGS IN A SMARTER WAY.
AND, UM, AND THIS IS OUR FIRST CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S REALLY A CREDIT TO THE DEPARTMENTS, TO THE DIVISIONS, TO THE EMPLOYEES TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO NOT ONLY GO TO GO FORWARD WITH IT IN A POSITIVE ATTITUDE, TO LOOK FOR BETTER WAYS TO DO THINGS, BUT ALSO TO TRANSPARENTLY COME IN A PUBLIC MEETING LIKE THIS AND TALK ABOUT WAYS WE CAN IMPROVE AND THINGS WE CAN FOCUS ON.
SO, UM, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STORY.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STORY TO SHOW THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE BEING RESPONSIBLE AND HOW WE DO THINGS, BUT ALSO TO HIGHLIGHT OUR DEPARTMENT AND AS, AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR BETTER WAYS TO DO THINGS.
SO, UM, AS YOU KEEP THAT IN MIND, AS YOU, AS YOU SEE THIS PRESENTATION AND GIVE US ANY FEEDBACK.
WITH THAT, I'LL LET SARAH TAKE IT.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.
I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE NEW INITIATIVE THAT WE STARTED THAT DAVID JUST PROVIDED SOME BACKGROUND ON.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO IT.
UM, THIS INTERNAL REVIEW PROCESS IS NEW.
UM, IT'S ALMOST SIMILAR TO AN INTERNAL CONSULTING EFFORT.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE USING OUR STAFF MEMBERS FROM AROUND THE ORGANIZATION THAT HAVE DIFFERENT TALENT SKILLS, ABILITIES, PERSPECTIVES, UM, TO COME IN AND LOOK AT AN OPERATION THAT THEY ARE NOT A PART OF AND THEY CAN INDEPENDENTLY REVIEW AND PROVIDE INPUT AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF HOW, UH, WE CONTINUE TO GET BETTER.
AND SOME OF THE GOALS OF OUR INTERNAL REVIEW PROCESS HERE ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN.
SO THESE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THE TEAM MAY LOOK AT AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, INCLUDING HOW DO WE GET MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE? UM, HOW DO WE UTILIZE RESOURCES THAT MAY ALREADY BE AVAILABLE TO US IN THE ORGANIZATION, MAYBE IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS USING A SOFTWARE? CAN THIS ONE LEVERAGE IT AS WELL? UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT HOW DO WE EVALUATE PERFORMANCE AND COSTS AND CAN WE COMPARE OURSELF TO OTHER CITIES OR CAN WE EVEN COMPARE IT TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHERE APPROPRIATE? UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WHERE MIGHT THERE BE GAPS OR RISKS AND THEN HOW DO WE MITIGATE AND PLAN FOR THE STRATEGICALLY IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA SHARE A QUICK SUMMARY OF THE FIRST ONE WE DID FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS LINE MAINTENANCE DIVISION.
UM, BUT WE DO INTEND TO CONTINUE DOING THESE GOING FORWARD, UM, THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION, AS DAVID MENTIONED.
SO, UH, AS MENTIONED, THIS FOCUSED ON THE LINE MAINTENANCE DIVISION.
UM, HOWEVER, SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS GO LARGER TO THE ENTIRE PUBLIC'S WORKS DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND THAT'S NATURAL JUST AS WE WERE REVIEWING INFORMATION AND THE THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, SOME OF THEM GO TOWARDS THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT.
UM, THE TEAM THAT PERFORMED THIS REVIEW WAS A CROSS DEPARTMENTAL TEAM.
SO IT WAS MADE UP OF STAFF FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, FINANCE AND BUDGET AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE TOOK A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ACTIONS TO LEARN ABOUT THE LINE MAINTENANCE TEAM AND THEY'RE LISTED HERE.
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THROUGH ALL OF THEM, BUT IT WAS PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE, UM, INCLUDING THAT WE DID JOB SHADOWING ACTUALLY GO OUT IN THE FIELD WITH THE LINE MAINTENANCE CREW.UH, WE, UM, DID A NUMBER OF INTERVIEWS WITH STAFF AND STAKEHOLDERS, UM, AND WE COLLECTED ALL THE DATA THAT WE COULD FROM THESE SYSTEMS AND STARTED TO ANALYZE IT.
AND AS WE WERE DOING ALL OF THIS WORK, UH, WE WERE CONTINUING TO MEET WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING LEADERSHIP, KEEPING THEM INFORMED OF WHAT WE WERE LEARNING, KIND OF CONFIRMING, CLARIFYING WHAT WE WERE SEEING, GATHERING THEIR INPUT AS WELL.
SO ACTUALLY, UM, DOING IT SIDE BY SIDE AND STARTING TO WORK TOWARDS SOLUTIONS AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, UM, WITH THEM AS WELL.
WE COME TO THE END AND HERE'S THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT REALLY MAKING IT THAT COLLABORATIVE PROCESS TOGETHER.
AND SO I FIRST WANNA START BY RECOGNIZING THE LINE MAINTENANCE TEAM.
UH, THEY ARE A VERY DEDICATED, COMMITTED TEAM TO PROVIDING THE ADDISON WAY OF SERVICE AND THE FUNCTION THAT THEY PROVIDE TO THIS COMMUNITY IS INVALUABLE.
UM, THEY, UH, ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING WATER AND SEWER SERVICE AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
AND IT'S NOT AN EASY JOB BY ANY MEANS.
UH, IF YOU KNOW SOME OF THE WORK THAT THEY PERFORM, UM, THE CONDITIONS ARE TOUGH, UM, AND THE NATURE OF THE WORK IS VERY CHALLENGING AS WELL.
UM, JUST ONE FUN, FUNNY STORY.
WHEN WE WERE JOB SHADOWING AND THEY PULLED BACK THE MANHOLE AND THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF COCKROACHES,
UM, SO JUST FUNNY STORY, UH, AS WE LEARN SOME OF WHAT THEY DO, UM, THERE IS A NUMBER OF OTHER STRENGTHS ON THIS TEAM AND WE HAVE 'EM INCLUDED HERE ON THE SLIDE AND WANNA TOUCH ON ONE, WHICH IS THE VALUE AND EMPHASIS THEY PLACE ON TRAINING AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO THEIR ENTIRE TEAM HAS BASIC LEVEL CERTIFICATIONS WITH THE STATE AND THEN THERE'S SOME TEAM MEMBERS THAT HAVE MORE ADVANCED CERTIFICATIONS, UM, FOR OPERATOR LICENSES AND SO FORTH.
AND THEY CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE THEIR TEAMS, UM, AND THEIR STAFF TO REACH THOSE CERTIFICATIONS, WHICH PROVIDES VALUE BACK TO THE TOWN.
I ALSO WANNA GIVE KUDOS TO JUSTIN HARDING, UM, WHO'S THE LINE MAINTENANCE MANAGER.
HE WAS PROMOTED INTO THIS POSITION I THINK ABOUT TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
UM, AND HE'S DONE A NUMBER OF INITIATIVES, UM, RECENTLY FOR THE TEAM INCLUDING DEVELOPING SOPS, UM, DEVELOPING PERFORMANCE TARGETS AND BEING TRACKING TOWARDS THEM AS WELL.
SO HE'S PUT A NUMBER OF GREAT THINGS IN PLACE ALREADY.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT LINE MAINTENANCE AND WHAT THEY DO.
UM, AS MENTIONED, THEIR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS THAT WATER AND SEWER SERVICE INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
UM, BUT THEN AS WELL AS THE ASSOCIATED, UM, THINGS SUCH ASHY, HYDRANTS, VALVES, CONNECTIONS, MANHOLES, UM, AND SO FORTH.
UM, THEY PERFORM THIS WORK IN MAINTAINING AND REPAIRING WITH 11 FTES WHEN THEY ARE FULLY STAFFED.
UM, THEY ALSO USE SOME CONTRACTORS TO HELP PERFORM THE WORK, UM, SUCH AS EMERGENCY REPAIRS FOR LINE BREAKS.
UM, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE OBSERVED AND THAT WE TALKED THROUGH WITH THEM, UM, THAT CAN BE DIFFICULT IS THEY HAVE, UM, THIS WHOLE LIST OF PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE THAT THEY WANNA TAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SYSTEM IS IN GOOD WORKING ORDER, THAT THEY HAVE TO BALANCE IT WITH ALL OF THESE TASKS THAT COME UP.
UM, AND FREQUENCY AND URGENCY, UM, WHETHER THAT BE REPAIRS, LINE LOCATES, UM, THE LINE LOCATES NEED TO BE DONE WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND SO THEY'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO BALANCE THAT WORKLOAD BETWEEN PROACTIVE AND REACTIVE.
UM, THEY ALSO USE, UH, TWO KEY SYSTEMS THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, BUT THE FIRST BEING CITY WORKS AND THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THE WORK ORDERS GO THROUGH.
SO EVERY TASK THAT IS PERFORMED, UM, WILL HAVE LISTED THE ASSETS THAT WERE TOUCHED, THE LABOR AND THE EQUIPMENT USED.
AND THEN THE SECOND CRITICAL TOOL TO THEM IN PERFORMING THEIR WORK IS OUR GIS SYSTEM.
UM, SO THIS HELPS THEM TO EFFICIENTLY DO THEIR WORK BUT ALSO ACCURATELY AS WELL.
ALSO HELPS THEM IN PLANNING OUT THEIR, UH, WEEK AND WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GO, UM, FOR TO DO THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES AND TRACKING THAT.
SO THIS NEXT SLIDE, UM, JUST SHOWS UM, SOME OF THE SERVICES AND TASKS THAT THEY PERFORM ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THE DISTRIBUTION.
UM, SO EVERYTHING FROM LINE LOCATES TO MAINLINE CLEANING TO FIRE HYDRANT INSPECTIONS TO SERVICE LINE REPAIRS.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT, THAT DISTRIBUTION.
I DO WANNA NOTE THEY ARE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT HOW THEY CAN REFINE AND IMPROVE THESE CATEGORIES MOVING FORWARD.
SO SOME OF THEM ARE BROAD AND UM, LIKE THE OTHER CATEGORIES.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN BREAK THAT DOWN AND HAVE IT MORE BE DEFINED IN THE FUTURE.
UM, BUT JUST SOME PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THEY DO ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THAT'S THE SERVICES THAT THEY PERFORM.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL GO INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND I'M GONNA TRY TO STAY AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, UM, 'CAUSE WE COULD GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL ON EACH ONE OF THESE, BUT THE INTENT IS TO JUST PROVIDE YOU SOME IDEA OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT AND SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE ARE MAKING.
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SO FOR THIS FIRST SLIDE, THESE FIRST TWO RECOMMENDATIONS ARE IN REGARDS TO THE THE WORK ORDER SYSTEM.AND THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION IS MORE BROAD TO THE ENTIRE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND THIS IS TO ENSURE THAT EVERY TASK THAT IS PERFORMED HAS LABOR HOURS AND EQUIPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH IT AS WELL AS THE ASSETS TOUCHED.
THIS IS A FOUNDATIONAL PIECE TO US SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THE DATA COLLECTED AND WE CAN USE THAT IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS GOING FORWARD TO TRACK PERFORMANCE, ACCOUNTABILITY OF CREWS AND THE WORK PERFORMED AS WELL AS JUST BEING KEY TO ANY FUTURE ANALYSIS, ANALYSIS OR EVEN COST ACCOUNTING IF WE WANTED TO DO ON SERVICES.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST A FOUNDATIONAL PIECE AND I KNOW, UH, BECKY VINNEY, WHO'S THEIR DIRECTOR, SUPPORTS THAT AND IS GONNA BE WORKING ON THAT WITH YOUR DIVISIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UH, THE NEXT RECOMMENDATION IS ALSO IN REGARDS TO C WORKS, BUT THIS WOULD BE CONFIGURING AND LEVERAGING ANOTHER FEATURE THAT IS AVAILABLE AND THAT IS INVENTORY.
SO TRACKING MAJOR INVENTORY ON EACH ONE OF THOSE WORK ORDERS THAT WOULD HELP US TO BETTER UNDERSTAND, UM, HOW MUCH MATERIALS ARE BEING USED, CAN WE ORDER SOME IN ADVANCE STORE IT, REDUCE OUR LEAD TIMES, DO MORE, UM, JOINT PURCHASING IF POSSIBLE.
JUST NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT DATA COULD BE REALLY USEFUL FOR US GOING FORWARD.
THE NEXT RECOMMENDATION IS MORE AROUND DATA VISUALIZATION, UM, DATA DASHBOARDS.
SO IF WE'RE COLLECTING ALL OF THIS, HOW CAN WE REALLY PRACTICALLY USE IT? UM, HOW CAN THE MANAGERS USE IT SO IT'S NOT JUST GOING INTO CITY WORKS AND SITTING THERE, UM, BUT HOW CAN WE MAKE IT MORE IN FRONT OF US AND CREATE THESE DYNAMIC VIEWS? UM, SUCH AS LIKE HAVING TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT DID WE ACCOMPLISH IN THE 40 HOUR WORK WEEK THIS WEEK OR MONTH TO MONTH? HOW ARE WE VARYING IN THE DIFFERENT SERVICES PERFORMED OR HOURS? UM, SO ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO USE A TOOL THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AVAILABLE AT THE TOWN.
NO ADDITIONAL COST CAN CONNECT DIRECTLY TO THE SERVER.
WE HAVE ANOTHER, UM, TOOL THAT WE COULD USE AS WELL.
UM, AND SO WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE TEAM AND TRYING TO GET THIS CONFIGURED SO IT'S MOST USEFUL FOR THEM ON MANAGING THEIR CREWS AND THEIR WORKLOAD AS WELL.
THE NEXT RECOMMENDATION, UM, HERE WAS, UH, CONTINUED IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE ARE MAKING FOR GIS AS MENTIONED, GIS IS A CRITICAL TOOL, SO IT'S ACCURACY AND RELIABILITY IS IMPORTANT.
UM, THIS IS ALREADY IN PROGRESS IN THE FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET, THERE WAS A POSITION APPROVED FOR GIS FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, SO SOON AS THAT POSITION COMES ON, THEY WILL BE CHARGED.
UM, AND WORKING WITH THE TEAM AND DEVELOPING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UM, INCLUDING AN ASSET MANAGEMENT, SOP AND AS WELL AS A GIS FIELD VERIFICATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION, UM, THROUGHOUT OUR GIS SYSTEM.
UM, THAT LAST ONE THERE, UM, IS ALREADY IN PROGRESS TOO FOR A BACKLOG OF AS-BUILTS THAT WE HAD.
UM, THE IT TEAM HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH AND UPDATED THOSE FOR LIKE THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN THE SYSTEM, UM, TO MAKE SURE AGAIN, THAT WE HAVE THE, THE MOST UP-TO-DATE DATA AND IT CAN BE A RELIABLE TOOL FOR OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAMS. THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS LISTED HERE.
I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH THESE QUICKLY.
UM, THE FIRST ONE LISTED THERE IS ACTUALLY, UM, IN REGARDS TO ANOTHER DIVISION, UM, IN PUBLIC WORKS.
BUT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT OVERTIME IN THE UTILITY FUND, UM, THIS HAD POPPED OUT AT US AS AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, SINCE WE REGULARLY HAVE, UM, SERVICES THAT NEED TO BE PROVIDED ON FRIDAYS FOR METER TURN ON TURN OFF OR WATER SAMPLING THAT'S PERFORMED, UM, THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY MAYBE STAGGER THOSE SHIFTS SO THEY CAN STAY ON FOUR TENS, BUT IT WOULD BE MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES WORK AND SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES WORK TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAYS AND THAT WOULD REDUCE OVERTIME, UH, ON FRIDAYS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
THE NEXT UH, RECOMMENDATION THERE IS KIND OF AN ONGOING ONE IN TERMS OF UH, EVALUATING OUTSOURCE CONTRACTS AND THE WORK THAT CAN BE FORMED IN-HOUSE.
WANNA GIVE CREDIT TO THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM.
THIS IS SOMETHING THEY ALREADY HAD IN PROCESS IN EARLY 2026 WAS TO BRING HYDRANT PAINTING AND HYDRANT TESTING BACK IN HOUSE AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THESE GOING FORWARD.
IT'S GONNA BE EASIER ONCE WE HAVE SOME OF THAT BETTER DATA COLLECTION THROUGH THE WORK ORDER SYSTEMS TO COST OUT AND COMPARE SERVICES AS WELL.
AND THEN LASTLY, UM, AS IN REGARDS TO PROCUREMENT, UH, WHEN WE LOOKED AT, UM, ALL OF THE CONTRACTS FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, IT WAS SPLIT ABOUT 50 50 THAT WERE DONE THROUGH, UM, COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS AND ILAS AND THEN THE OTHER HALF, UM, THROUGH INFORMAL AND FORMAL AND INFORMAL SOLICITATIONS.
UM, SO NOT THAT ONE WAY IS BETTER, THERE ARE DIFFERENT PROS AND CONS AND ADVANTAGES AND CERTAINLY A LOT OF BENEFIT FOR DOING COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS AND ILAS.
WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS IS TO SEE SOME OF THAT MORE CLEARLY DOCUMENT
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DOCUMENTED AND TRANSPARENT AS IT COMES FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN CREATE SOME STAFF TEMPLATES THAT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO SHOW THAT BUSINESS CASE FOR WHY WE ARE RECOMMENDING A COOPERATIVE CONTRACT OR ILA.UM, AND THEN ALSO JUST ENCOURAGING WHERE POSSIBLE TO GO OUT FOR FORMAL OR INFORMAL SOLICITATION SO WE CAN CONFIRM THAT IT IS THE BEST PRICING FOR THE TOWN.
THE TOWN IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY ATTRACTIVE ENTITY TO DO BUSINESS WITH AND SOMETIMES, UM, THERE ARE, UH, VENDORS LOOKING FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY OUTSIDE OF SOME OF THE DIRECTOR.
THE LARGER, UM, COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS ON THE LAST TWO RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, LISTED HERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PROGRESS AND THAT WERE BOTH FUNDED IN THE 27 BUDGET.
SO THESE ARE ITEMS WE IDENTIFIED EARLY ON AND THAT WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH AND SUPPORTED THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT GOING FORWARD WITH DECISION PACKAGES DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, SO THE FIRST WAS DEVELOPING A-C-M-O-M PROGRAM.
UM, THIS IS DEVELOPING, UH, PERFORMANCE TARGETS SPECIFIC TO OUR SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN AVOID, UM, SOME COSTLY REPAIRS THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED, UH, POTENTIAL FOR OVERFLOWS, REDUCING OUR INFILTRATION INFLOW.
I KNOW THEY WENT THROUGH THAT ITEM MORE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BENEFITS AND I KNOW THEY'RE EXCITED TO GET THAT PROCESS STARTED AND UNDERWAY AND THEN WE CAN SET UP PERFORMANCE TRACKING AS WELL ONCE IT'S IN PLACE.
AND THEN THE LAST RECOMMENDATION HERE, UM, WHICH IS ALSO FUNDED IN THE BUDGET, WAS TO BEGIN DESIGN AND ENGINEERING FOR A STORAGE FACILITY.
UM, WE LOOKED AT THE DEPRECIATION OF SOME OF THE MATERIALS THAT ARE OUTSIDE IN THE STORAGE YARD AS WELL AS THE VEHICLES AT THE SERVICE CENTER, UM, AND IDENTIFY THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY.
SO WITH THAT, UM, WE'LL GO INTO NEXT STEPS.
SO WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT AND SUPPORT THEM ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND INITIATIVES.
WE WILL DO A FORMAL FOLLOW UP IN A YEAR, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING CLOSELY ALONGSIDE THEM ON THESE.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA SELECT NEXT DIVISIONS AND OPERATIONS TO TAKE THROUGH THE INTERNAL REVIEW PROCESS BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS, I DO WANNA INVITE BECKY VINNIE UP TO SEE IF SHE HAS ANYTHING TO ADD AND SHARE AS WELL.
MAYOR COUNCIL, UM, HAPPY TO BE HERE.
I WANNA FIRST THANK SARAH AND THE OTHERS, UM, EMILIO AND STEVEN FOR TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GET TO KNOW OUR DEPARTMENT.
UM, WHAT WE DO IS FUN TO US, BUT NOT ALWAYS FUN TO EVERYONE ELSE.
UM, AND SO IT'S GREAT FOR OTHERS TO KIND OF SIT IN THE SEAT AND SEE THE THINGS THAT WE DO.
UM, I SECOND WANT TO RECOGNIZE JUAN GUTIERREZ AND, UM, JUSTIN HARDING, OUR LINE MAINTENANCE MANAGER.
JUAN IS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS.
UM, THESE TWO GENTLEMEN ARE STELLAR EMPLOYEES.
UM, AND SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE THEM A PART OF THE TEAM.
AND I WANNA TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO KIND OF TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT JUSTIN HAS DONE.
UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UH, JUSTIN MOVES FASTER SOMETIMES THAN I CAN EVEN THINK.
UM, WE GIVE HIM IDEAS AND WE TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND BEFORE WE CAN EVEN COME BACK AND DISCUSS IT AGAIN, HE'S ALREADY TAKEN THAT OPPORTUNITY.
HE'S DEFINITELY ONE WHO WANTS TO CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVE.
UM, AND I'VE BEEN A PART OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT FOLLOW WHAT'S CALLED THE MALCOLM BALDRIDGE PRINCIPLE THAT IS A PART OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVING AND I'M A VERY MUCH A HUGE PROPONENT OF THAT.
AND HE TAKES THAT OPPORTUNITY AND HE SHARES THAT WITH ALL OF HIS EMPLOYEES JUST ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
AND WE'RE GONNA CELEBRATE THESE ANNIVERSARIES TOMORROW AT OUR LUNCHEON.
UM, FOR OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR AND NEWCOMER OF THE YEAR.
UM, WE HAD SOME FOLKS THAT JOINED OUR TEAM ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
THESE FOLKS KNEW NOTHING ABOUT WATER WASTEWATER.
THEY'VE NEVER EVEN BEEN A PART OF A WATER WASTEWATER ORGANIZATION.
THEY'VE NOW BEEN HERE A YEAR AND EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL IN JUSTIN'S TEAM HAS SOME SORT OF CERTIFICATION INCLUDING JUSTIN WHO HAS A CLASS A, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST CER CERTIFICATION YOU CAN HAVE THROUGH TCEQ.
SO IT JUST SHOWS TO THEIR CHARACTER.
UM, THEY TAKE THE TIME THEY WANNA LEARN.
I'VE CHALLENGED THEM IN MANY CASES.
YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL, HE WOULD PROBABLY TELL YOU, UM, THAT WHEN I SAID, ARE YOU SURE YOU WANNA STAY UP ALL NIGHT AND DO THAT? AND HE SAID, YEAH, LET US TRY IT.
AND, AND HE BEGGED ME AND I SAID, ARE YOU SURE? YOU KNOW, IT'S JULY 3RD, TOMORROW'S CABO OR JULY 2ND.
TOMORROW IS KABOOM AND I NEED THE ROAD OPEN.
LIKE THIS IS EDWIN LEWIS, RIGHT? YOU REALIZE HOW CLOSE THIS IS TO THE EVENT.
AND I SAID, ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO IT.
SO THAT NOT ONLY SAVED THE TOWN TIME, IT ALSO SAVED THE TOWN MONEY BECAUSE GETTING A CONTRACTOR IN HERE OBVIOUSLY COSTS MORE MONEY, UM, THAN IT DOES TO DO THIS, THIS JOB INTERNALLY.
SO I'M EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE DEPARTMENT THAT WAS CHOSEN TO BE A PART OF THIS.
UM, WHAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT IS THAT JUSTIN IS NOW, I HATE TO SAY THE DREAM TEAM OR THE ROLE MODEL, BUT ESSENTIALLY KIND OF THAT AS HE'S BEEN THROUGH THIS AND HE KNOWS WHAT IT FEELS LIKE, HE WAS VERY OPEN TO ANY OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS RECEIVED.
AND SO WERE OTHERS AS A PART OF HIS TEAM AND JUAN THROUGH THE LEADERSHIP TEAM.
UM, WE, WE LISTENED WELL BECAUSE OTHERS COME INTO OUR ORGANIZATION THAT DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT WE DO.
AND SO IT'S REALLY GOOD TO HEAR FROM OTHER PEOPLE, UM, THAT FIND WAYS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE.
AND THROUGH THAT JUSTIN CAN NOW HELP SHARE THAT WITH
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OUR OTHER, UH, MANAGERS, UM, AS WE WORK THROUGH IMPROVING AND USING SOME OF THESE SAME PRACTICES THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.SO I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE RESULTS.
UM, AND I OWE THE CREDIT ALL TO JUSTIN AND TO JUAN, UM, FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THIS DEPARTMENT WHO'S MAKING SURE THAT YOUR TOILET'S FLUSH AND YOUR WATER FAUCET TURNS ON AND THAT EVERYTHING'S CLEAN AND MOVING DOWN THE PROPER PIPELINE IS TAKEN CARE OF PROPERLY.
SO KUDOS TO BOTH OF THOSE GENTLEMEN AND SARAH, THANK YOU AND ALL THE OTHERS WHO WERE A PART OF IT, EMILIO AND STEVEN, UM, FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
UH, THAT'S REALLY GREAT AND UH, THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION, SARAH.
I'M REALLY GLAD WE'RE DOING THIS.
THIS IS, UH, THIS IS REALLY, UH, IMPRESSIVE AND UH, I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND, AND I'VE GOT MORE TO SAY ABOUT YOU AND YOUR TEAM HERE BEFORE WE GET THROUGH.
BUT, UH, WE'LL GO TO DAN FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO TO DARREN.
SO QUICK QUESTION, UM, FROM LAST WEEK'S, LAST FEW WEEKS AGO, COUNCIL ME THE, THE A MI THAT ADVANCED METERING INFRASTRUCTURE, WILL THAT IMPACT IN ANY WAY THE LINE IN TERMS OF THEIR DAILY CALLS, LET'S SAY ONCE WE GET THIS ALL INTEGRATED, WHEN IT WILL IT SIMPLIFY THEIR SCHEDULE OR MAKE IT MORE COMPLICATED? UM, ACTUALLY THE LINE MAINTENANCE TEAM ASSIST OUR WATER QUALITY TEAM, WHICH IS MANAGED BY ANOTHER MANAGER.
UM, AND SO THE DAY THAT WE WERE DOING METER READS, UM, OR EVEN REREADS OR A METER SHUTOFFS OR TURN, TURN-ONS, UM, THAT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO, TO JUSTIN AND HIS TEAM ALONG WITH THE WATER QUALITY TEAM.
SO THERE IS SUCH A LARGE GROUP THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
WE TAKE A FEW FOLKS FROM JUSTIN'S TEAM AND ALL OF WATER QUALITY TO, UH, PERFORM THAT WORK.
SO YES, IT WILL DIRECTLY IMPACT THEM, WHICH WILL ALLOW THEM TO DO OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO TO MEET THE METRICS AND THE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, TCEQ PUTS TOGETHER A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY LIKE US TO DO.
FOR EXAMPLE, TURNING EVERY SINGLE VALVE EVERY FIVE YEARS TYPE OF SITUATION OR CRITICAL VALVES ONCE A YEAR, TWICE A YEAR, WE WANT TO WORK TO MEET THOSE METRICS AND BUILD KPIS SO THAT THEY ARE DOING ALL THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP MAINTAIN OUR SYSTEM, WHICH WILL INCREASE THE LONGEVITY OF OUR SYSTEM.
SO TAKING RID OF THE OUTDATED METERS IS A GOOD THING, NOT A BAD THING.
IT'S A WONDERFUL THING BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TO NOT ONLY HELP RESIDENTS BE ABLE TO SEE, UH, WHAT WATER THEY'RE USING, IT'S ALSO GONNA BE ABLE TO HELP US IDENTIFY LEAKS AND THEN TAKE THAT, UH, THE SYSTEM RIGHT NOW WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY REQUIRING INDIVIDUALS TO DO THE READING, TURN IT AND MAKE IT AUTOMATED.
THANK YOU DARREN, JUAN, AND JUSTIN.
THANK YOU SARAH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND JUSTIN AND BECKY TO YOUR TEAMS FOR, UH, RUNNING A GOOD DEPARTMENT, GREAT DEPARTMENT AND UH, FOR THE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.
SO, UM, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
I'D LOVE TO SEE THIS GOING THROUGH AND KIND OF AUDITING WHAT WE'RE DOING, DOING PROCESS REVIEW PROCESS, UH, IMPROVEMENT ON, UM, SO, UH, HOW MUCH MEASURING AGAINST PRIVATE SECTOR PRODUCTIVITY DO YOU DO? HOW ARE ARE YOU ABLE TO, UM, PAINT A PRETTY GOOD PICTURE WITH THAT? AND, AND I, I, I WOULD USE MAYBE, UH, BRINGING THE FIRE HYDRANT MAINTENANCE IN-HOUSE SO WE KNOW HOW MUCH WE PAID FOR THAT.
AND IF YOU'RE GONNA IMPLEMENT LABOR TRACKING, WHICH I LOVE THAT.
I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT ALL THE WORK'S BEING TRACKED AS WELL AS, UH, INVENTORY BEING USED.
UM, DO, DO YOU HAVE THAT DATA YET TO, TO SEE HOW LONG IT'S TAKING US TO DO THAT AND WHAT OUR COST IS VERSUS WHAT THE OUTSIDE COST WAS? YEAH, WE DIDN'T DO THAT YET, BUT THROUGH THIS DATA COLLECTION WITH THE WORK ORDER, THAT'LL MAKE THAT PROCESS MUCH EASIER TO DO.
SO, UM, THAT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF ONE WHERE WE CAN TAKE, UM, EVERYTHING THAT WAS TRACKED FOR WORK ORDERS, UM, FOR FIRE HYDRANT, PING, UM, SEE THE NUMBER, TOTAL NUMBER OF LABOR HOURS AS WELL AS THE EQUIPMENT.
AND WE CAN DO SOME COST ACCOUNTING, UM, TO COME UP WITH AN APPROXIMATE COST OF THAT SERVICE BEING DONE IN-HOUSE.
UM, SO THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE WHERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IN THE FUTURE.
WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU'LL BE, UH, YOU'LL HAVE THE LABOR TRACKING WORK ORDER STUFF IMPLEMENTED? UH, IT'S ALREADY IN PLACE FOR THE LINE MAINTENANCE TEAM, SO WE COULD PULL EVEN THE FIRST FEW MONTHS THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT IN-HOUSE, BUT WE'D WAIT PROBABLY TO SEE A YEAR, UM, IS WHAT WE'D RECOMMEND.
UM, AND THEN DOING AN ANNUALIZED COST.
UM, BUT FOR THE OTHER DIVISIONS, I'LL LET BECKY SPEAK TO, UM, MONDAY.
UM, LEMME, LEMME JUST, YEAH, LEMME JUST FINISH ON THIS ONE.
UM, SO THAT'S GREAT INFORMATION.
I'M GLAD TO SEE IT'S ALREADY IMPLEMENTED.
UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE, WE DO SOMETIMES IN ALL THE DIFFERENT JOBS THAT EVERYBODY DOES AROUND TOWN AND OTHER BUSINESSES IS YOU GIVE THINGS AWAY FOR FREE.
SO, UH, WITH I GUESS MORE OF THIS WORK TRACKING, UH, WILL WE BE ABLE TO FIND PLACES WHERE WE SHOULD BE CHARGING THINGS TO, TO MAYBE OTHER BUDGETS OR TO UM, UH, OTHER VENDOR OR OUR CUSTOMERS OUT THERE THAT MAYBE WE'RE, WE'RE DOING WORK FOR FREE FOR NOW THAT COULD BE CHARGED, CAPTURED SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE COSTS
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WOULD BE CAPTURED? YEAH, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET THIS, ONCE THIS IS IN PLACE LONGER AND WE HAVE MORE DATA, I THINK, AND AS SARAH HAS MENTIONED A FEW TIMES, COST ACCOUNTING, ONCE WE DO, IF WE DO TRUE COST ACCOUNTING, WE SEE WHERE EVERY DOLLAR'S GOING.THAT COULD CERTAINLY BE A RESULT OF WHERE WE END UP.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA SEE EXACTLY WHERE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR TIME IS SPENT AND WHERE EVERY DOLLAR IS SPENT.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S GONNA INFORM THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL.
I'D LOVE TO SEE A FOLLOW UP ON THIS.
'CAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES DONE AND, YOU KNOW, A YEAR'S A LONG TIME, I'D LIKE TO SEE MAYBE SIX MONTHS WORTH.
'CAUSE IT IS A SUCCESS STORY AT HOW WE'RE SAVING, UH, OUR TAX DOLLARS, OUR PEOPLE, OUR RESIDENTS TAX DOLLARS, HOW THEY'RE BEING USED ON, ON SLIDE NINE ALSO, UM, I SAW THE MATERIAL SITTING OUTSIDE THERE AND I SAW THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, UM, THE WEATHER WAS DEGRADING IT AND, AND, UM, MAKING IT HAVE A LONGER, A SHORTER LIFE.
AND I THOUGHT, WELL, WE JUST APPROVED SOMETHING TO, TO HOUSE THAT, AND THEN YOU HAD IT ON THE SLIDE.
SO I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THAT, UH, COMING TO FRUITION ALSO.
THANK YOU SARAH, JUSTIN AND BECKY.
CHRIS, UH, JUST A COMMENT, UM, THAT I, I REALLY LIKE THIS, THIS SORT OF INTERNAL REVIEW.
IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION INITIATIVE.
UM, AND I LOVE THE APPROACH FROM THE, FROM THE BOTTOM UP.
I THINK GOOD THINGS HAPPEN WHEN YOU DO THAT AND WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, WR OUT SOME OF THE COSTS OF DOING BUSINESS, UM, AND JUST TRYING TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE.
SO MY HAT'S OFF TO EVERYONE THAT WAS PART OF THE PROCESS AND, UH, TO DARREN'S POINT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE'LL TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND DO SOME GREAT THINGS.
UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE EFFORT AS WELL, TRYING TO BE MORE EFFICIENT BY BRINGING DIFFERENT EYES IN.
EVEN IF THAT'S NOT YOUR EXPERTISE, YOU MAY HAVE AN IDEA THAT THAT COULD HELP.
UH, MY QUESTION IS, HOW LONG DOES THIS OUTSIDE EMPLOYEE COME IN AND MIRROR OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, TO COME IN AND LOOK AND HOW WOULD, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE DEPARTMENT THAT'S LOSING THAT EMPLOYEE? ARE THEY, HOW IS THAT AFFECTING THEIR WORKLOAD WITHOUT HAVING THAT EMPLOYEE IN THAT ROLE THAT THEY WERE HIRED TO DO? IT'S REALLY ON A SPECIAL PROJECT BASIS, SO IT'S NOT TAKING THAT MUCH AWAY FROM THE DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE ALSO SEE IT AS A BENEFIT BECAUSE THEY'RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION AND HOW SOME OF THE SERVICES INTERCONNECT AND WORK TOGETHER.
SO IT ALSO IS A GROWTH OPPORTUNITY AND INVESTMENT, UM, FOR THEM AS WELL.
UM, SO WE SEE IT BENEFICIAL BOTH WAYS.
UM, BUT IT IS NOT THAT MUCH TIME BEING SPENT.
WE, WE DID SOME JOB SHADOWING, WE DID MEETINGS, WE DID OBSERVING WORKFLOWS SO FORTH.
UM, BUT IT DID NOT TAKE AWAY FROM THEIR PRIMARY DUTIES.
I SEE THIS AS NOTHING BUT A POSITIVE.
AND I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE TO THE PEOPLE, THIS IS NOT, OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT SUFFERING BY LOSING AN EMPLOYEE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME JUST TO GO WATCH SOMEBODY ELSE DO THEIR JOB.
SO I WOULD USE THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS.
USE THAT FOR JUST A 32ND SOAPBOX.
I MEAN, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT IS REALLY ANOTHER BIG BENEFIT OF THIS IS GIVING OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION.
AS WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE TRAIN FOLKS UP AND TRY TO FIND OTHER LEADERSHIP FOLKS, THEY GET THE CHANCE TO JUMP IN AND TRY SOMETHING NEW AND PUT DIFFERENT EYES ON.
AND, AND IT'S BEEN GREAT TO SHOW THE INTEREST OF FOLKS DOING IT.
WE'RE ABOUT TO KICK OFF TWO OTHER, UM, ANALYSIS JUST NOW AND WE'RE GETTING FOLKS FROM ALL OVER THE ORGANIZATION THAT ARE INTERESTED IN JUMPING IN.
SO IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.
ARE THESE PEOPLE THAT, ARE WE SELECTING THESE PEOPLE OR ARE THESE VOLUNTEERS COMING FROM THESE ORGANIZATIONS OR A A, IT'S KIND OF A MIX.
I THINK THERE'S FOLKS WHO HAVE RAISED THEIR HAND AND THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR, BUT IF WE, IF WE THINK SOMEBODY WAS, WE WILL TAP SOMEONE ON THEIR SHOULDER TOO.
I THINK IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE TALENT IN THE CITY THAT MAY BE COMING IN AND PUSHING THEM OUT OF THEIR COMFORT ZONE, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT TO GET INVOLVED.
SO ONCE AGAIN, I APPLAUD THIS EFFORT.
I, THESE ARE JUST QUESTIONS TO DO IT.
YEAH, AND, UH, JUST FINAL COMMENTS FROM ME.
THAT'S, UH, I, I DO, I LOVE THIS PROGRAM AND HAVING ONE, ONE OF YOUR TEAMS AS BEING PART OF IT.
'CAUSE I KNOW YOU PRESENTED IT TO THEM IN, IN THE BEST WAY 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE EASY FOR AN EMPLOYEE TO SAY, BUT PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT I DO ARE GONNA COME IN AND JUDGE WHAT I'M DOING, BUT I'M, I KNOW YOU SOLD IT TO 'EM THE RIGHT WAY BECAUSE, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU ARE.
YOU'RE A GREAT LEADER AND YOU WERE GIVING THEM ALL THE CREDIT TONIGHT, AS I WOULD EXPECT FROM YOU.
SO, UH, I'M ALWAYS PROUD OF YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND JUSTIN AND JUAN, PLEASE SPREAD APPRECIATION FROM THE ENTIRE COUNCIL TO, TO ALL OF YOUR FOLKS.
SO Y'ALL HAVE DONE GREAT WORK AND, UH, THANK YOU SARAH FOR PUTTING TOGETHER A GREAT PRESENTATION.
REALLY GOOD AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING DISCONTINUED GO FORWARD.
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ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.[b. Present and discuss an update on the Airport Master Plan.]
ITEM SEVEN B PRESENT AND DISCUSS AN UPDATE ON THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
JAMIE ROSA, AIRPORT DIRECTOR HERE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE LATEST AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS UPDATE.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, UM, THE LAST TIME THAT I MET, UH, WITH COUNCIL AND PROVIDED AN UPDATE, WE HAD JUST COME OUT OF, UH, A, A SERIES OF PUBLIC MEETINGS, UH, WHERE A LOT OF FEEDBACK WAS RECEIVED FROM THE RESIDENTS, UM, RELATED TO THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN.
ALSO, JUST WE HAD JUST HAD SOME MEETINGS WITH THE PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE AND THE PROJECT, UH, EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
AND, UM, THERE WERE SOME, UH, SOME OF THOSE FEEDBACKS LED TO SOME CHANGES THAT WE WERE PROPOSING AS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOUND IN THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN.
SO THIS PAST, UH, FRIDAY, I WAS, UH, ABLE TO MEET, UH, FOR, AGAIN, RELATED TO THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN WITH THE PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE AND THE PROJECT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
AND, UM, I WILL BE SHARING WITH YOU SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT, UH, WE DISCUSSED RELATED TO THOSE, UH, THAT FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD RECEIVED, UH, PREVIOUSLY, UH, WHICH HAS LED DOWN TO SOME DRAFT FACILITY REQUIREMENTS, ALTERNATIVES, AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, I WILL ALSO BE, UH, SPEAKING WITH YOU ABOUT THE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN AND THEN SOME DRAFT ELEMENTS OF THE AIRPORT DRAINAGE AND STORM WATER STUDY, WHICH, UH, LEAD US TO POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS BEING A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN UPDATE AT THE NOVEMBER 10TH, UH, REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITH THAT AT THE OCTOBER 23RD, UH, PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE, UH, THE PSC SUPPORTED THE REVISED AIRPORT MASTER PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. PREVIOUSLY, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING A RUNWAY LENGTH EXTENSION RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD EXTEND, UH, THE EXISTING 7,203 FOOT RUNWAY LENGTH BY A THOUSAND FEET TO THE SOUTH FOR SOUTH TO PURCHASE ONLY.
UM, PREVIOUSLY WE HAD RECEIVED SOME FEEDBACK FROM, UH, RESIDENTS AND FROM YOU COUNCIL.
UH, RELATED TO THIS RECOMMENDATION, THE PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE FELT STRONGLY THAT WE SHOULD RETAIN THE RUNWAY LIFE EXTENSION RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD EXTEND THE RUNWAY BY A THOUSAND FEET, AGAIN, ONLY TO BE USED, UH, OR TO IMPROVE SELF DEPARTURES ONLY.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, AND BASED AGAIN ON FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD RECEIVED PREVIOUSLY, THEY, UH, DID AGREE SUSTAIN, UH, THE REMOVAL OF A RUNWAY WITH EXTENSION RECOMMENDATION.
UH, THEY ALSO, UH, FELT THAT WE SHOULD INCORPORATE ADDITIONAL GOOD NEIGHBOR INITIATIVE, VOLUNTARY NOISE PROGRAM INFORMATION WITHIN THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN.
AND LASTLY, THEY DID NOT SUPPORT ADDING A TRANSIT GA PARKING AREA.
THEY DID SUGGEST ADDITIONAL COLLABORATION BETWEEN GA PILOT GROUPS AND OUR FBOS.
AS A REMINDER, THIS IS WHAT OUR AIRFIELD LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
THESE ARE THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE ON THE AIRFIELD AIR SIDEWAYS.
THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN FIND OUR RUNWAYS, OUR TAXIWAYS, THE NAVIGATIONAL EQUIPMENT, UH, THAT WE HAVE, UM, AT THE AIRPORT WHERE OUR RUNUP PADS ARE RIGHT NOW, UH, WHERE WE HAVE A SEGMENTED CIRCLE.
THIS IS BASICALLY OUR CURRENT INVENTORY, IF YOU WILL, RELATED TO OUR AIR SIDE FACILITIES.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE, UH, BEEN WORKING ON, UH, RECENTLY, NAMELY TAXIWAY BRAVO, WHICH LAST YEAR YOU'LL REMEMBER WE CONCLUDED WITH, UH, PHASE ONE OF THE TAXIWAY BRAVO EXTENSION.
AND THEN MOST RECENTLY, OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING, UH, YOU APPROVED THE, UH, PRO PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT, UH, WITH GARVER FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE DESIGN OF PHASE TWO OF THE TAX RATE BRAVO EXTENSION PROJECT.
OF COURSE, BASED ON US RECEIVING FA FUNDING, UH, FOR THAT PROJECT.
HERE, BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, THAT ARE PROVIDED, UH, THROUGH THE PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE, HERE ARE SOME FUTURE PROJECTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE, UH, THAT AS PART OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU'LL SEE HIGH SPEED TAX AWAYS ON HERE, THE CONTINUANCE
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OF THE TAXIWAY BRAVO, UH, PROJECT, UH, GOING ONTO PHASE THREE, UH, YOU WILL ALSO SEE THE RUNUP PAD, UM, UP AT THE TOP.AND THEN YOU'LL ALSO SEE THE, THAT EXTENSION THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT NOW, UM, THE STAR THAT YOU SEE, UH, JUST TO THE RIGHT OF THE, UH, ULTIMATE RUNWAY EXTENSION IS WHERE WE WOULD ALSO HAVE A BLAST FENCE.
IF YOU WILL, THAT WOULD BE ERECTED, UH, TO HELP WITH THE NOISE RELATED TO, UH, HAVING THAT EXTENSION.
UM, AT THE NORTH END OF THE RUNWAY HERE, YOU FIND OUR EXISTING LANDSITE FACILITIES, UH, WHERE EVERYTHING IS, UM, IN TERMS OF HANGERS, UH, BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE AIRPORT, BOTH TOWN OWNED LAND, WHICH ARE THE GREEN AREAS, ALSO KNOWN AS AIRPORT NEIGHBORHOODS, AND ALSO THE BLUE AREAS, WHICH WE KNOW AS THROUGH THE FENCE AREAS, THROUGH THE FENCE BEING, UH, FACILITIES THAT ARE IN PRIVATE LAND OPERATED BY PRIVATE ENTITIES.
HERE YOU FIND, UH, CURRENT LAND SITE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN, UH, PROCESS RIGHT NOW, NAMELY SKY HARBOR PHASE ONE, WHICH WAS COMPLETED LAST YEAR, AND THE ONGOING AND ALMOST COMPLETE, UH, SKY HARBOR PHASE TWO, UH, THAT IS GOING ON, UM, AT THE AIRPORT AGAIN, UH, YOU'LL SEE DEPICTED HERE SOME THROUGH THE FENCE, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL.
IN BLUE HERE WE DEPICT AS PART OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS, LANDSIDE FUTURE PROJECTS, UH, THAT WE'VE LISTED ON, UH, WITHIN THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN.
FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE POTENTIAL FOR AN AUXILIARY AVIATION FUEL FARM, THE, UH, POTENTIAL FOR THE BUILDING OF A NEW MAINTENANCE, UH, OR SNOW REMOVAL BUILDING.
UH, ALSO NAMELY ON HERE, AND SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP AS PART OF THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND THROUGH YOUR DIRECTION, UM, IS THE TAX WE, MIKE, AT THE VERY TOP OF R-F-P-R-F-Q TO BE ISSUED IN THE FUTURE.
UH, ESPECIALLY AS WE WRAP UP THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, UPDATED AS A REMINDER, THOSE ARE THE VACANT FIVE ACRES OF LAND THAT WE PLAN TO PUT OUT FOR, UH, REDEVELOPMENT, UH, PROPOSALS HERE IN THE NOT SO DISTANT FUTURE.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, UM, YOU HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, AT THE BOTTOM PART, UH, THAT ARE BEING DEPICTED HERE.
THE THING TO REMIND YOU HERE, UH, RELATED TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS IS THAT, AS I EXPLAINED IN THE PAST, UH, SOME OF THE FACILITIES THAT ARE BUILT HERE ARE OF THE LARGER CATEGORY, AND THAT'S ONLY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE FAA REVIEW THOSE ITEMS FOR MAXIMUM CAPACITY.
BUT THIS DOES NOT REPRESENT NECESSARILY WHAT WOULD BE BUILT THERE.
UH, WE DO THAT SO THAT WE CAN ALWAYS SCALE DOWN FROM THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, FROM THESE, UH, POTENTIAL LARGER BUILDINGS, SO THAT LATER WE DON'T HAVE TO SCALE UP AND GO BACK TO FA FOR APPROVAL TO BUILD ANYTHING LARGER.
ADDITIONAL MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, THAT WE HAVE ARE CONTINUOUS INTEGRATION WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UM, ENSURING THAT WE INTEGRATE WITH OTHER TOWN, UH, TOWN PLANNED INITIATIVES, WHETHER THAT'S A BETTER, UH, WALKABILITY TO THE AIRPORT OR SIGNAGE, UM, INTEGRATION AND HENCE COORDINATION BETWEEN US.
UH, THE AIRPORT AND OTHER TOWN DEPARTMENTS LIKE PUBLIC WORKS AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR TARGETED ACQUISITION OF THROUGH THE FENCE PROPERTIES, CONTINUE TO ENSURE INTEGRATION, UH, WITH MULTIMODAL MODAL INITIATIVES LIKE ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY AS THOSE, UH, SEGMENTS OF THE INDUSTRY MATURE.
UH, AND OF COURSE, THE MOST IMPORTANT, HAVING ONGOING COLLABORATION WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE FAA AND THE FAS MULTI-GROUP, WHETHER THAT'S AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL OR THE AIRPORT DISTRICT'S OFFICE.
UM, AND OUR ATTENDANCE REGARDING THE GOOD, UH, NEIGHBOR INITIATIVE, VOLUNTARY NOISE PROGRAM.
ONE IMPORTANT ELEMENT UPDATE WISE, UH, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING IS THE, THE CREATION OR THE, THE, UH, COMPLETION OF THE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN.
THE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN IS ONE OF THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT ELEMENTS OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN AS A WHOLE, ONE BEING THE FORECAST, WHICH HAS TO BE SEPARATELY REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY TEXT ON FAA.
AND LIKEWISE, THE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN ALSO HAS TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED SEPARATELY BY FAA.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THIS DRAWING HERE DOES HAVE THE SQUARES THAT SHOW WHERE THOSE ENTITIES WOULD SIGN AND STAMP, UH, THAT THE CURRENT A LP OR THE NEW A LP WILL LOOK SOMETHING, UH, LIKE THIS.
THIS IS A DRAFT COPY OF THE FUTURE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN.
WHAT IS EXACTLY THE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN? THE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN IS A VISUAL DEPICTION OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT
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ARE LISTED IN THE CONTENT OF THE CHAPTERS OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN.THE IMPORTANT THING TO REALIZE IS THAT IF A RECOMMENDATION IS NOT LISTED WITHIN THE CONTENTS OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN AND IS NOT VISUALLY DEPICTED ON THE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN, IT WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED FOR FA FUNDING BY TEXT OUT AND FA.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ANYTHING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AS A POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATION BE LISTED AND SHOWN ON THE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN IN ORDER TO GO THROUGH WITH A PROJECT LATER THAT'S NOT DEPICTED ON HERE.
WE WOULD HAVE TO SEPARATELY UPDATE AN AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN AND RESUBMIT IT TO FA FOR REVIEWING APPROVAL.
SOME OF THE ELEMENTS, UH, THAT I WANTED TO, UH, TOUCH UPON RELATED TO THE AIRPORT DRAINAGE AND STORMWATER STUDY IS THAT WE, AS PART OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, DEVELOPED A COMPREHENSIVE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN WHERE WE EVALUATED EXISTING DRAINAGE PERFORMANCE.
SO WE LOOKED AT WHAT'S EXISTING AS PART OF OUR INVENTORY AND HOW THE DRAINAGE, UM, AND THE STORM WATER IS AFFECTED BY OUR CURRENT FACILITIES.
AND THEN WE WORKED, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH PUBLIC WORKS WHO PROVIDED US WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION TO AND IDENTIFIED MITIGATION STRATEGIES FOR EXISTING AND FUTURE CONDITIONS.
SO AS WE LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE FOUND IN THE AIRPORT, UH, MASTER PLAN, WE LOOK AT HOW POTENTIALLY THOSE FACILITIES IN THE FUTURE MAY IMPACT, UH, STORM WATER AND DRAINAGE, UH, PERFORMANCE.
SO SOME NEXT STEPS FOR THE MASTER PLAN, UH, THROUGH DIRECTION, UH, REQUESTED.
SOME OF THE QUESTIONS FOR YOU ARE, DOES THE COUNCIL SUPPORT THE UPDATED, UH, THE UPDATE AS AMENDED? DOES THE COUNCIL SUPPORT THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION, NAMELY FOR THE RUNWAY EXTENSION, DOES COUNCIL SUPPORT, UH, NOT INCLUDING THE GA PARKING AREA IN THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN? AND THEN NEXT STEPS WOULD BE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF, UH, RESOLUTION FOR THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN ON, UH, AT THE NOVEMBER 10TH MEETING.
AND THEN, UH, THAT WOULD LEAD TO, UH, AN EVENTUAL SUBMISSION OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN UPDATE TO TEXT ON AN FA FOR APPROVAL.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TARGETING DECEMBER TO DO THAT.
WITH THAT, YOU'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, JAMIE, CAN YOU TURN TO SLIDE THREE? YES.
AND SO, UM, SO I REALIZE THAT THE, THE COMMITTEE HAD THIS MEETING AFTER THE AGENDA WAS POSTED, UM, RIGHT? YES.
AND, AND, AND THAT LED TO CHANGES IN THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING, UM, VERSUS WHAT, WHAT WE'VE SPENT TIME CONSUMING CORRECT.
SO, UM, SO YOUR SLIDE THREE IS OBVIOUSLY, IS DIFFERENT THAN, THAN OUR SLIDE THREE ON OUR, ON OUR IPADS.
AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT, UM, UH, SECOND BULLET POINT SUSTAINED REMOVAL OF, OF RUNWAY WITH, SO IT IS SUSTAINED REMOVAL, I DON'T, WE TALKED ABOUT REMOVAL.
SO ARE THEY SAYING THAT, THAT THEY'RE REMOVING NOT WIDENING THE, NOT WIDENING IT.
BUT, BUT THEY ARE SAYING, UM, SO OUR, OUR, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S WEIRD BECAUSE OUR, OUR SLIDE SAID REMOVED RUNWAY WIDTH RECOMMENDATION.
MAYBE I CAN, SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REMOVE, REMOVE RUNWAY WITH RECOMMENDATION AND UPDATED REFERENCE ITEMS AND WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'VE GOT HERE SUSTAINED REMOVAL OF RUNWAY WITH RECOMMENDATION.
SO WE UPDATED THE MASTER PLAN YEAH.
TO REMOVE THE EXTENSION AND REMOVE THE WIDENING THAT THEN WENT TO THE COMMITTEE AND THEY SAID, WE AGREE WITH YOUR REMOVAL OF THE WIDTH, BUT THEY WANT TO PUT THE EXTENSION BACK IN.
THE WORD, UH, LIKE WHY THE, THE WORDING ON THE SECOND BULLET POINT CHANGED.
UM, I, I DON'T GET THAT, BUT, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT'S WHAT IT, THAT'S WHAT, YEAH.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S VERY, VERY CONFUSING.
SO, UM, I'M TRYING TO GO BACK IN TIME AND, AND, UH, AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, REMOVING, UH, THE RUNWAY LENGTH AND, AND ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT, THAT WERE GONNA, THAT WOULD MIGHT COME OF THAT, UH, CAN YOU REFRESH YOUR MEMORIES AND KIND OF HELP ME WITH THAT? BECAUSE I, THIS IS KIND OF A CURVE BALL.
I'M NOT, WASN'T EXPECTING THIS.
UM, PREVIOUSLY IN JUNE, IN JULY, UM, I HELD, UH,
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I WAS PART OF TWO, UM, COMMUNITY MEETINGS WHERE WE DISCUSSED THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN AND THE STATUS OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAD UP TO THIS POINT.UM, TIME-WISE, IT JUST SO HAPPENED TOO THAT THE TOWN AT THAT TIME WAS BEING IMPACTED BY SOME, BY AN AIRCRAFT THAT PRODUCED QUITE A BIT OF NOISE.
AND SO NOISE WAS A PRIMARY DISCUSSION AS I MET WITH THE COMMUNITY RELATED TO THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN.
AND WHEN THE RECOMMENDATION ABOUT, UH, RELATED TO THE RUNWAY LENGTH WAS DISCUSSED, SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE, UH, BEING HAD BY THE COMMUNITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY REALLY RELATED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE TOWN INTENDED TO BRING LARGER AIRCRAFT, UH, TO ADDISON AIRPORT TO BE USED BY THE, AT THE ADDISON AIRPORT, UH, THROUGH THE USE OF BOTH EXTENDING THE RUNWAY AND EX, UH, WIDENING THE RUNWAY BY 50 FEET TO A TOTAL OF 150 FEET.
AND SO, UM, UH, THERE WERE A LOT OF, UH, EXPLANATIONS AS TO WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE, UH, RELATED TO THE RUNWAY LENGTH EXTENSION AND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AS PART OF THE RUNWAY WIDTH, UH, RECOMMENDATION.
THOSE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON, IN PART ON YOUR FEEDBACK AT THE LAST, UH, COUNCIL MEETING WHERE I UPDATED YOU ON THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, WERE TO, UH, NOT ADD THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO EXTEND THE RUNWAY AND NOT HAVE THE RUNWAY WITH RECOMMENDATION AS PART OF MY UPDATE BACK TO THE PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE ON FRIDAY.
THOSE ARE THE ITEMS AMONGST, UH, THE OTHER ONES THAT I, THAT YOU SEE HERE.
THE FOUR ITEMS THAT YOU SEE UP ON THE SCREEN WERE THE ITEMS THAT I REVIEWED WITH THE, UH, PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE.
WE REVIEWED, UH, THOSE, UM, ITEMS, THEIR INTENT, OBVIOUSLY THE INTENT THAT YES, THERE IS NO INTENTION, UH, FOR US TO BRING ANY TYPE OF LARGER AIRCRAFT OR HAVE COMMERCIAL AIRLINE SERVICE HERE.
UH, AND ALL OF THOSE ITEMS, THE FACT THAT THERE IS A TOWN CHARTER THAT PROHIBITS, UH, YOU COUNSEL FROM, UH, UH, DIRECTING, UH, HAVING COMMERCIAL AIRLINE SERVICE, UH, AT THE MADISON AIRPORT.
AND THEN BASED ON THE INFORMATION, AGAIN, UH, BEING EXPLAINED AT THE, UH, STEERING COMMITTEE, THE DECISION WAS MADE TO BRING BACK THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR THE RUNWAY LENGTH, BUT NOT THE RUNWAY LENGTH.
AND I WAS THINKING AT OUR COUNCIL MEETING THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING MORE THAN THE, THE, THE COUNCIL HAD ISSUES WITH SOMETHING, UH, ON THE LENGTH MORE THAN JUST NOISE.
I WAS, AND I'M GONNA LEAN ON, ON OUR, WE'VE GOT THREE PILOTS HERE, UM, BRUCE, RANDY, DARREN, DO YOU ALL RECALL, UH, OR DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON LENGTH OF, OF THE RUNWAY? SHOULD WE EXTEND THE LENGTH? I, I, I WISH I COULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS SLIDE.
I WOULD'VE WATCHED THAT, THAT AGENDA ITEM AND, AND, UH, WATCHED IT AGAIN.
BUT, UM, I, I JUST, I DON'T RECALL WHY, WHY WE WERE, UM, AGAINST, UH, INCREASING THE LENGTH.
CAN ANYBODY REMIND ME OF THAT OTHER THAN NOISE? I THINK IT WAS MORE THAN NOISE.
WELL, I MEAN, MY RECOLLEC RECOLLECTION OF THAT, UH, DISCUSSION WAS AROUND, UM, THE, THE WIDENING AND THE LENGTHENING SPECIFICALLY.
THE WIDENING WAS EVEN MORE SO, UM, THAT IT, IT SEEMED LIKE NOBODY REALLY THOUGHT THAT WAS EVER GONNA HAPPEN.
SO WHY WOULD WE INCLUDE IT IN THE MASTER PLAN? THAT THAT'S WHAT I RECALL.
I'M, I'M NOT, NOT IN, I'M TALKING ABOUT, JUST, I'M FOCUSED ON YEAH.
ON, ON WHY WE AS A COUNCIL, WERE, WERE, WERE SAYING, UM, WE WEREN'T, UH, FOR INCREASING THE LENGTH.
THAT'S THE PART I CAN'T RECALL.
I DON'T, ONE, ONE OF MY CONCERNS WITH IT WAS, AND I'VE TALKED TO JAMIE AND DAVID ABOUT THIS, UH, WITH THE EXTENDING THE LENGTH A THOUSAND, A THOUSAND FEET TO THE NORTH, IT MOVES A THOUSAND FEET CLOSER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO THE NORTH, UH, WHICH ALREADY GETS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, UH, UH, NOISE WHENEVER AIRCRAFT ARE TAKEN OFF TO THE SOUTH.
UH, SO IT MOVES IT CLOSER TO THAT.
BUT THAT'S WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE BLAST WALLS AND BEING ABLE TO PUT UP SOME, SOME WALLS TO MITIGATE, UH, SOME OF THAT NOISE ISSUE.
AND, AND SO, UH, THAT GAVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF COMFORT WITH, WITH THE LENGTH OF THAT.
AND IT ALSO BRINGS IT CLOSER TO THE RACETRACK FUELING STATION.
BUT THAT DOESN'T CONCERN ME ABOUT THE, THE, THE GAS STATION SO MUCH.
UH, 'CAUSE IT'S JUST GONNA BE FOR TAKEOFFS, NOT FOR LANDINGS, OF COURSE.
UH, BUT THE, THE, THE POSITIVE THAT I SEE OUT OF IT IS BEING ABLE TO GET, UH, THESE, THE JET AIRCRAFT TAKING OFF AND BEING, GETTING, ALLOWING THEM TO, TO ROTATE AND
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THEY TURN OUT EARLIER.SO THEY'RE AVOIDING THAT NOISE SENSITIVE AREA, UH, THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
THAT'S, TO ME, THAT'S THE POSITIVE THAT COMES OUT OF THAT.
DARREN, DO YOU REMEMBER, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? UH, I WAS IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING THE, THE LENGTH OF THE RUNWAY.
PART OF, UH, SOME OF THE REASONING WAS, UM, PEOPLE WOULD EXTRAPOLATE, W WE BE ABLE TO TAKE OFF, UH, HEAVIER AIRCRAFT, LARGER AIRCRAFT, MORE FULL OF FUEL ROARING ENGINES, MORE SO OVER THE NOISE SENSITIVE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS SOME OF THE, THE FEEDBACK OF WHY NOT SOME OF THE CONFUSION HERE IS THE, UM, PRESENTATION THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA SAID DIFFERENT ON THIS SLIDE, UH, THAN THE UPDATED ONE THAT WE GOT IN IN MAIL, UH, TODAY, IN EMAIL TODAY.
SO THE ONE, AN EMAIL TODAY SAYS, RETAIN, AND THE ONE I READ FIRST SAID, REMOVE.
NOW WE, WE DIDN'T GO TO REMOVE IT UNTIL THIS UPDATED ONE CORRECTS THAT.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT, THAT WAS SOME OF THE, THE CONVERSATION AROUND IT WAS, UM, THE, HE, THE LARGER, HEAVIER AIRCRAFT ROLLING LONGER ON THE RUNWAY THAT THEY CAN TAKE OFF NOW.
AND THAT IS MORE, UH, POTENTIAL NOISE OVER THE NOISE SENSITIVE AREA.
SO THAT MARLIN IS, IS SOME OF THE CONVERSATION, BUT I'M IN FAVOR OF THE THOUSAND FOOT, UH, EXTENSION.
UH, THERE ARE LARGER AIRCRAFT AND THERE'S MAINTENANCE THAT, UH, PEOPLE WANNA BRING, UH, AIRCRAFT IN FOR SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE SHOPS.
UH, CAN'T GET THE LARGER AIRCRAFT IN HERE BECAUSE OF THAT.
RANDY, DO YOU CARE TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS OR I'LL JUST KEEP MOVING ON WAITING MY TURN AS HE'S WAITING FOR HIS TURN.
WHAT, WHAT SHE GOT, UM, THE ONLY OTHER, YEAH.
CAN YOU GO TO THAT LAST SLIDE WHERE YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THESE, UH, DECISIONS FROM US? YES.
AND, UH, DOES COUNCIL SUPPORT THE UPDATE AS AMENDED? CAN YOU KIND OF ELABORATE ON, ON, UH, DO WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO US? THERE'S NO AMENDMENT.
UM, WHAT, UM, THE QUESTION IS HERE IS WHETHER THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN.
IT'S, AND ITS RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON KEEPING THE RUNWAY EXTENSION ON THERE.
UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE RUNWAY WITH IS NOT AS A RECOMMENDATION IN THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, INCLUDING ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE RELATED TO THE, UH, VOLUNTARY NOISE PROGRAM.
AND ALSO NOT RECOMMENDING HAVING, UH, A GA PARKING AREA.
AND, UH, ON THAT AIRPORT LAYOUT, UH, IS IT AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN? IS THAT WHAT IT'S CALLED? YES.
DO WE HAVE, UH, DO WE HAVE THE LENGTH, UH, WHAT DO WE HAVE IN THERE FOR THE LENGTH? OR WILL, I GUESS WHAT WE DETERMINE TONIGHT? WILL THAT DICTATE AN UPDATE TO THIS? YES.
UH, WHAT YOU DETERMINE TODAY WILL, UH, DETERMINE AN UPDATE TO THE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN.
SO JAMIE, NUMBER ONE, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT YOU AND, UH, YOUR TEAM DOES.
UM, MY NEXT QUESTION IS ON PAGE NUMBER NINE, UH, THE MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CBP GARAGE, UH, WELL MEANT GARBAGE HANDLING AND RESTAURANT RESTROOMS. SO TELL ME WHY THE, THAT GARBAGE HANDLING IS SO IMPORTANT.
IT IS IMPORTANT, UH, AS WE, UM, HAVE ALMOST REACHED 700 CUSTOMS, UH, FLIGHTS THAT ARE PROCESSED AT THE CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION BUILDING.
UM, RIGHT NOW, THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR, IT REQUIRED US THE AIRPORT TO HAUL 3000 POUNDS WORTH OF GARBAGE THAT WE RECEIVE OFF OF THE INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS AND TRANSPORT IT OVER TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE AIRFIELD, WHERE OUR MAINTENANCE FACILITY IS LOCATED, AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, WHERE OUR STERILIZING EQUIPMENT IS THAT WE USE TO STERILIZE THE INTERNATIONAL TRASH.
WHEN THE CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION AND AIRPORT ADMINISTRATION BUILDING WERE ORIGINALLY SCOPED THAT BUILDING, THE CBP GARBAGE HANDLING AND RESTROOMS BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY IN THE SCOPE OF WORK, BUT DUE TO SOME BUDGET, UH, CONSTRAINTS AND CHALLENGES, WE HAD TO ELIMINATE THE BUILDING OF THAT FACILITY.
NOW, UH, WE ARE LOOKING, UH, TO BUILD THAT CUSTOMS, UH, CBP GARBAGE HANDLING AND RESTROOMS, UH, BUILDING, SO THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO HAUL THAT 3000 POUNDS OF TRASH, UH, ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST SIDE.
WE WILL JUST BRING IT OVER TO THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR TO OUR BUILDING.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IT'S JUST NOT REGULAR GARBAGE AS INTERNATIONAL GARBAGE.
SO THE NEXT THING, UM, I WAS GONNA
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JUST SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PAYING ATTENTION TO THE RUNWAY NOISE.UM, AS BRUCE, AS MAYOR BRUCE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE GET A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT NOISE, ESPECIALLY ON, ON OUR END OF TOWN.
BUT JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR JUST BEING VERY COGNIZANT AND, AND, AND, UH, WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON THAT.
UM, YES, THANK YOU FOR THE, THE NOISE CONSIDERATION ON THE NORTH END.
I, I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THAT.
UM, REGARDING THE GA PARKING, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M A GA GUY ALSO.
I'VE FLOWN IN AND, YOU KNOW, LANDED AT ME AND AIR.
EVEN MY LITTLE BUG, SMASHER ONE 50, UM, ADDISON'S AN IS A, UH, IT'S AN EXPENSIVE, UH, LOCATION, AND I UNDERSTAND, UH, FOREGOING THE GA PARKING.
UH, WHAT'S SOME OF THE, UH, AIRPORTS AROUND NEARBY THAT HAVE GA PARKING? AND LET ME JUST CLARIFY THIS.
GA PARKING IS FREE, RIGHT? YES.
THE, THE INTENT OF THE, UH, GA PARKING AREA WOULD BE FOR THAT AREA TO BE FREE, UH, FOR PILOTS TO BE ABLE TO PARK ON AND USE, UH, OKAY.
SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE OTHER AIRPORTS NEARBY.
WHAT'S MESQUITE, IS MESQUITE ONE OF THE ONES THAT HAS FREE PARKING? YES.
AS YOU, AS YOU GO OUT WITHIN THE DFW METROPLEX OF SOME OF THE SMALLER AIRPORTS, THAT'S WHERE YOU FIND, UH, THIS TYPE OF FACILITY THAT ALLOWS PILOTS TO, UH, PARK ON RAMPS WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY.
MOST OF THE TIME, YOU'LL FIND THESE FACILITIES AT, UM, AIRPORTS WHERE YOU HAVE CITY OWNED AND CITY MANAGED FBOS.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO THINK AROUND WHERE FREE PARKING IS.
AND IT'S ONLY A CITY OWNED FBO.
SO WE DON'T HAVE AN FBO OUT THERE.
WE HAVE IT FOR DECADES, UH, CITY OWNED.
AND, UH, IT DOES MAKE SENSE, UH, TO NOT USE, UM, OR TO FORGO, UH, SOME OF THAT, UM, COMMERCE OUT THERE ON THE AIRPORT FOR FREE PARKING.
'CAUSE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN'T JUST HAVE PARKING, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE RESTROOMS. YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE, UH, TRANSPORTATION, UH, NEARBY PARKING.
YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE THROUGH THE FENCE.
YOU'D BE HAVE TO MANY, MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND, AND IS THAT, IS THAT TRUE? AM I MISSING SOME OF THAT? YOU ARE CORRECT.
LIGHTING AND SOME OTHER THINGS WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE INCLUDED.
JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT, THAT WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T OWN AN FBO OUT THERE.
I DO LIKE TO SEE, UH, THE COOPERATION, UH, OR, UH, MORE DISCUSSION COOPERATION BETWEEN THE FBOS FOR THE GA COMMUNITY, UH, FOR PARKING.
WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT DO YOU SEE? WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT GOING? YES.
UM, WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH AS PART OF THE PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING THAT WE HAD MEMBERS OF THE FBOS AND, UH, A VOLUNTARY MEMBER OF THE LOCAL, UM, GA PILOT GROUP.
AND SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE HAD WAS THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE EITHER DISCOUNTED RATES OR NO COSTS, UH, POTENTIALLY AT THE FBOS FOR SOME OF THE SMALL GA UH, PILOTS.
UM, EVEN THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE, UM, IF YOU WILL, UM, SOME SEMBLANCE OF SUPPORT, UH, THAT WOULD BE GIVEN, UH, BY THE AIRPORT, UH, RELATED TO SMALL GA UTILIZING SOME OF THOSE FACILITIES.
SO, THE WAY THAT THIS WORKS NOW, IF I GO PARK AT MILLIONAIRE, UM, AND I NEED TO WHAT'S CALLED TOP OFF AND, AND I NEED FIVE GALLONS, 'CAUSE I JUST FLEW IN FROM DENTON.
UM, I, IN MY EXPERIENCE, AND TELL ME IF THIS IS COMMON FROM WHAT YOU KNOW, HOW THE FBOS OPERATE OUT THERE, IS I TOP OFF, I BUY THAT FUEL, AND YES, IT'S $2 A GALLON MORE, UM, I TOP OFF AND THEY DON'T CHARGE ME ANYTHING.
SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, UH, AS PART OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, UM, AND OTHER, UM, STUDIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, SOME OF THE FBOS.
AND YES, IF YOU JUST SIMPLY TOP OFF, REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY GALLONS THAT MAY BE, YOU'LL HAVE, UH, FREE PARKING ESSENTIALLY AT THAT POINT, IN ADDITION TO THE USAGE OF ALL THE AMENITIES THAT THEY OFFER THERE.
UH, WHICH IN SOME CASES INCLUDE COURTESY CARS, THE LOUNGE USE, UH, REFRESHMENTS, AND A NUMBER OF OTHER AMENITIES, POPCORN
I, I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THE, UH, THAT, THAT THE COMMUNITY SPOKE ABOUT, UM, THESE CHANGES AND WHETHER THEY SUPPORT OR, UH, DON'T SUPPORT THEM.
AND I, I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT MOVE FOR THE THOUSAND FEET AND FOREGO THE GA PARKING, UH, AND WORK WITH THE EXISTING FBOS TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, GA TRAFFIC.
UH, IT IS A REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR GA TO COME IN AND, AND LAND AT MILLIONAIRE OR, UH,
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GALAXY AND, UH, HAVE THAT KIND OF EVEN BETTER EXPERIENCE THAN, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER GA PARKING AROUND.MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE, UH, THIS COMMITTEE YOU KEEP REFERRING TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
DOES THAT SUPERSEDE COUNCIL OR DOES COUNCIL SUPERSEDE THE COMMITTEE? I, I WOULD SAY THAT COUNCIL WOULD SUPERSEDE THE COMMITTEE.
SO WHEN YOU GOT DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO COUNCIL, THE THOUSAND FEET, WHY WAS THAT JUST NOT A DISCUSSION THAT COUNCIL DOES NOT WANT TO DO THAT? THEY WANT TO CANCEL IT? WHY WAS THAT EVEN A DISCUSSION GOING FORWARD WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT BACK UP? WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY COUNCIL HAS NEXT THAT? SO, UM, THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION ACTUALLY, THAT WE HAD, UM, MY DELIVERY BACK TO THE PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE WAS THAT BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT HAD BEEN RECEIVED FROM THE RESIDENTS AND FROM COUNCIL AT THE LAST MEETING, THESE, THIS WAS THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED.
AND THE COUNCIL, UM, WANTED TO, UH, CHANGE DIRECTION IN TERMS OF THE, UH, LENGTH OF THE RUNWAY AND THE WIDTH.
UM, AND ALSO IN ADDITION, BASED ON THAT COUNCIL MEETING, ALSO RING THE QUESTION, UH, RELATED TO THE GA PARKING AREA.
SEE, TO ME, THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE THAT, UH, YOU WENT BACK AND WE GAVE DIRECTION AND THEN THEY SUPERSEDED OUR DIRECTION AND PUT IT BACK IN THERE.
I, I WOULD JUST COUNSEL APPOINTED A SUBCOMMITTEE OF RESIDENCE TO GIVE THEIR OPINION.
JAMIE APPROPRIATELY WENT BACK AND SAID, HEY, HERE'S WHERE COUNSEL IS RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE REMOVED THIS FROM THE PLAN.
IT IS THEIR ROLE TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNSEL ON THIS EXACT ISSUE.
SO THERE'S NOT, THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG BY MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION.
YOU ALL HAVE THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY.
YOU DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT.
SO WHAT IS THE MAKEUP OF THIS COMMITTEE? HOW MANY, HOW MANY RESIDENTS ARE ON THIS COMMITTEE? I'VE GONE TO A COUPLE OF THOSE MEETINGS, AND I SEE A LOT OF TENANTS IN THAT MEETING.
THEY WERE, THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE WAS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
BUT THE PEOPLE THAT WE, THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REPRESENTING IS WHO I'M ASKING IS WHO ON WHO'S ON THAT COMMITTEE? UH, THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 14 RESIDENTS ON THE PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE.
UH, TWO RESIDENTS WERE SELECTED BY EACH COUNCIL MEMBER.
BUT THERE WERE ALSO SOME, SOME, UH, AIRPORT, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS ALSO, RIGHT? OH, ABSOLUTELY.
THERE'S A MIX ON THE PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE.
THERE'S A MIX OF RESIDENTS, UH, USERS, NON-BUSINESS USERS, RECREATIONAL USERS OF THE AIRPORT, AND ALSO BUSINESS ENTITIES LIKE THE FBOS.
AND HOW MANY, HOW MANY OF THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS? IS IT SEVEN? I BELIEVE THAT IN TOTAL, THERE ARE, UH, 28 TOTAL PROJECT STEERING COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
ON, ON THE, ON THE RUNWAY EXTENSION, YOU SAY YOU'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE GAS STATION DOWN THERE.
WELL, YOU'LL BE CONCERNED ABOUT IT WITH THE G FIVE GOING TO FULL POWER AT THE END OF THAT RUNWAY.
BLOWING YOU OUT OF THAT, THOSE BLASTS, DEFLECTORS ARE FOR THRUST.
THEY ARE NOT GONNA SUPPRESS NOISE AT THAT END OF THE RUNWAY.
YOU CAN STATE YOUR OPINION, RANDY, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO AR BE ARGUMENTATIVE ABOUT IT.
HOW AM I BEING ARGUMENTATIVE? I'M STATING AN OPINION.
UM, YOU SAY THAT THAT'S ONLY FOR TAKEOFFS.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT THAT'S NOT FOR A TAKEOFF OR A LANDING IN THAT DIRECTION.
IF YOU HAVE A DISPLACED THRESHOLD, RIGHT.
A DISPLACED THRESHOLD IS ONLY, YOU CAN'T LAND ON THAT SPOT.
YOU CAN ROLL ON IT, YOU CAN TAXI ON IT, YOU CAN TAKE OFF ON IT.
DISPLACED THRESHOLD IS SO YOU CAN'T COME IN AND LAND.
YOU CAN ROLL ON IT ALL YOU WANT.
THAT'S WHY IT'S JUST FOR TAKEOFFS ONLY.
IF YOU'RE COMING IN FROM THE OTHER END, IT EXTENDS THAT RUNWAY FOR YOUR LANDING ROLLOUT AS WELL.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE OVERSIMPLIFYING THE EXTENSION.
WE HAVE GOTTEN OVERWHELMING PUSHBACK FROM OUR RESIDENCE ON THIS RUNWAY EXTENSION.
WE GAVE DIRECTION AND IT WAS IGNORED.
THE RUNWAY EXTENSION WILL ALLOW, JESS, RANDY, PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT ME.
I'LL LET YOU HAVE ALL THE TIME YOU WANT.
BRUCE, I I DO NEED TO INTERRUPT YOU AT THIS TIME BECAUSE YOU'RE BEING DISRESPECTFUL.
YOU'RE BEING RUDE TO JAMIE AND YOU'RE BEING RUDE TO THE COMMITTEE.
AND I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S, I THINK YOU COULD CHANGE, TONE IT DOWN TO BE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE CONVERSATIONAL.
BE MORE, WE HAVE, HAVE GIVEN DIRECTION TO THIS AIRPORT DIRECTOR.
AND HE, HE, HE DOESN'T YOU, BUT THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF
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HAVING THESE COMMITTEES.IT'S FOR THEM TO FORM AN OPINION.
AND IF WE GIVE THEM DIRECTION, IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO VALUE THEIR OPINION, THEN WHY EVEN HAVE IT? WHY DON'T WE JUST LET THE COUNCIL MAKE THESE DECISIONS? WE, I'D SAY IT AS PART OF THE PROCESS TOO.
HE TAKES IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
THE COMMITTEE EVALUATES OUR FEEDBACK AND SAYS, WE WANT TO PUT IT IN THERE.
AND IF IT COMES BACK TO US WITH IT IN THERE AND THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO TAKE IT OUT, WE TAKE IT OUT.
IF THEY'RE GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, WE MAKE THE FINAL DECISION ON IT.
THEY IGNORED IT, THEY IGNORED IT AND CAME BACK WITH IT.
THEY, THEY, HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE GONNA PLAY PING PONG ON THIS? THEY STILL HAVE THEIR RECOMME, THAT'S STILL THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
AND WE CAN STILL DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO BE DISRESPECTFUL COURT.
THIS THOUSAND IS GOING TO ALLOW THESE JETS TO GO OFF FAR HEAVIER THAN THEY ARE NOW.
AND THEIR, THEIR TAKEOFF ROLE WILL BE LONGER.
IF YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF IT, THAT'S OKAY.
WHY IN THE WORLD ARE YOU INTERRUPTING ME? MAYOR, I HAVE SAT HERE.
I DIDN'T EVEN INTERJECT WHEN ANOTHER COUNCIL GO ON PERSON ASKED ME TO INTERJECT.
THIS RUNWAY EXTENSION IS OVERWHELMINGLY BY THE RESIDENTS UNFAVORABLE.
IT WILL ALLOW THESE JETS TO GO HEAVIER AND IT WILL BE LOUDER ON THE TURNOUT.
YOU WILL NEVER GET MY SUPPORT ON A LENGTHENING OF THE RUNWAY OR DISREGARDING A AREA FOR GENERAL PILOTS TO COME IN AND PART THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE AT THIS AIRPORT.
CHRIS, JUST SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE LENGTHENING OF THE RENT RUNWAY.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOUTH DEPARTURES FROM SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE AIRPORT, THAT THE, THE AIR, THE, THE PLANE IS BEGINNING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE AIRPORT AND THEN HEADING NORTH.
IS THAT CORRECT? ARE WE LENGTHENING THE, THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE, WE WOULD BE LENGTHENING THE NORTHERN END OF THE RUNWAY FOR AIRCRAFT THAT ARE TAKING OFF TO THE SOUTH.
SO YOU AIRCRAFT THAT ARE TAKING OFF TO THE SOUTH WOULD START AT THE NORTH END.
SO, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE, THE NOISE SENSITIVE AREA, THIS WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR PLANES TO GET OUT TO SPRING VALLEY AND TURN LEFT OR RIGHT AND AVOID SOME OF THOSE AREAS WHERE WE'RE GETTING SOME OF THE, THE NOISE COMPLAINTS.
ACTUALLY, THE THOUGHT PROCESS WITH HAVING THE EXTENDED RUNWAY AT THE NORTH END IS THAT THE AIRCRAFT WOULD HAVE A HEADSTART OF A THOUSAND FEET, THEREBY BE ABLE TO GET OFF THE GROUND SOONER, THEREFORE BE ABLE TO INITIATE THEIR TURN TO THE LEFT EAST SOONER, FARTHER NORTH OF BELTLINE AND ANNOY SENSITIVE AREA.
SO WHEN WOULD THEY MAKE THAT TURN? A BELT LINE OR PRIOR TO BELT LINE? WAY BEFORE BELT LINE.
AND THEN AS FAR AS, UM, THE, THE GA PARKING, UM, TALK ME THROUGH THAT A LITTLE MORE.
RIGHT NOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE IF YOU, IF YOU ARE A GENERAL AVIATION OWNER, YOU, YOU CAN STILL COME TO THE AIRPORT AND YOU CAN PARK.
YOU JUST NEED TO GO THROUGH ONE OF THE FBOS.
DID DID THE STEERING COMMITTEE SUPPORT THE GA PARKING OUTSIDE OF THE FBOS? NO.
CAN I, I'M GONNA ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE, UH, START GOING BACK THROUGH.
UM, SO THE, I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, THE NEED FOR THE HIGH SPEED TAXIWAYS THAT ARE ALREADY AT THE END OF THE RUNWAY WHEN THEY'RE ALREADY NOT GOING HIGH SPEED.
AND THEN, THEN THEY HAVE TO DO A HARD U-TURN WHEN THEY COME OFF OF THAT.
I, I MAKE THAT MAKE, MAKE THAT MAKE SENSE FOR ME.
THE POINT TO THE HIGH SPEED TAXIWAYS ARE TO HELP WITH THE, UH, FORECASTED INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF OPERATIONS IN ORDER TO FACILITATE MORE AIRCRAFT USING THE SAME RUNWAY, SINGLE RUNWAY THE WAY THAT YOU CAN, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS HAVING MORE AIRCRAFT OPERATING ON THE SAME RUNWAY IS BY GETTING THEM ON AND OFF THE RUNWAY QUICKER.
SO WITH THE HIGH SPEED TAXIWAYS, IT DOES NOT REQUIRE AIRCRAFT TO COME TO ALMOST A COMPLETE STOP BEFORE TURNING 90 DEGREES.
UM, TO BE ABLE TO EXIT THE RUNWAY WITH THE HIGH SPEED TAXIWAYS.
THEY CAN EXIT OFF TO BRAVO OR OFF TO ALPHA, UM, QUICKER.
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FASTER.BUT I, I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT THEY WOULD BE GOING FASTER BY THE TIME THEY GET, THEY GET TO THAT POINT OF THE RUNWAY AND, AND THERE'S TOWER.
THE TOWER'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GIVE A CLEARANCE TO ANYBODY UNTIL THEY'RE CLEAR OF, AND THEY GET ON THE, ON THE PARALLEL TAXIWAY.
I DON'T SEE THAT IT HELPS, UM, WHERE THE TYPE OF AIRCRAFT THAT WOULD BE MORE HELPED BY THE HIGH SPEED TAXIWAYS WOULD BE THE JETS WHICH TEND TO USE MORE OF THE RUNWAY WHEN THEY LAND.
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AS WELL.
IF YOU NOTICE, UM, THERE ARE OTHER EXITS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE RUNWAY, UH, IN THIS DEPICTION YOU'LL SEE, UH, PURPLE, SOME PURPLE ONES, ORANGE ONES.
THOSE HAVE BEEN ADDED TO BE ABLE TO GET THE SMALLER GA AIRCRAFT OFF OF THE RUNWAY SOONER BECAUSE WE'RE OFFERING MORE EXITS BASICALLY OFF THE RUNWAY.
WELL, WELL THAT ELEMENT OF IT'S, IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE HIGH SPEED, UH, TAXIWAYS.
UM, THE MAINTENANCE RUN-UPS, DID WE, DID WE MOVE ALL THAT TO THE NORTHWEST CORNER THEN? YES.
YOU'LL NOTICE ON THIS SAME SLIDE THAT THE RUNUP PAD FOR AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE NOISE DISTRIBUTION IS OFF OF MIDWAY.
AND SO THERE WOULD BE NO MORE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RUNWAY.
THERE WOULD BE NO MORE RUN-UPS AT NORTH OR SOUTH ALPHA.
JAMIE, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE NOISE MITIGATION, YOU KNOW, AROUND YES.
IN ADDITION TO RELOCATING, UH, THE, UH, RUNUP PAD, UM, THAT AREA THERE, BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE THAT IT HAS FROM THE RUNWAY IS CAPABLE OF HAVING SOME, AGAIN, SOME NOISE BARRIERS CREATED THAT THE DEFLECT THE NOISE UPWARDS AS OPPOSED TO OUTWARD.
THAT'S NOT ACHIEVABLE CURRENTLY AT NORTH OR SOUTH ALPHA.
AND, AND THAT SEEMED LIKE LIKELY THE BEST POSSIBLE FIX AS LONG AS WE CAN HAVE SOME GOOD NOISE MITIGATION UP THERE WITH THE BLAST WALLS OR WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, AND IT KEEPS THE, UH, THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER FROM DOING MAINTENANCE RUN-UPS CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTIAL.
YEAH, THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE HIGH SPEED TAXIWAYS AND I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF EXTENDING THE RUNWAY EITHER.
A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THE INTERNATIONAL TRASH.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT AS, AS CHANA HAD REFERENCED, IT'S NOT NORMAL TRASH I GUESS YOU'D REFER TO.
ARE WE TRYING, IS THERE A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THE COLLECTION OF THAT TRASH? YOU DIDN'T MENTION THAT.
AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR THOSE DUMPING TRASH? YES, THERE IS $75 PER TRASH COLLECTION.
DOES THAT KIND OF STANDARD PRACTICE IN TERMS OF THE, THOSE FEES THAT WE'RE CHARGING? IT'S STANDARD PRACTICE TO COLLECT THAT FEE.
DISCUSSED THOSE FEES ON DECEMBER 10TH.
NE NEXT QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, WITH REGARDS TO, UM, WILERT'S EN ENGAGEMENT IN CONSULTING WITH THE AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN, WITH THE USE OF WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE WAY, WHICH OF THESE AIR TAXIS WAS THAT? DID I MISS THAT IN THE PLAN? ARE WE DESIGNATING AN AREA IN THE LAYOUT PLAN? WE DID NOT.
UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE POTENTIAL FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, VERTICAL TAKEOFF AND LANDING, UM, WE COULD NOT IDENTIFY A GOOD LANDING AREA AT OUR AIRPORT BECAUSE THE, THERE ISN'T SUFFICIENT RAMP ANYWHERE TO THAT IS, UH, HAS ENOUGH SPACING TO THE RUNWAY.
EVERYTHING IS VERY CLOSE TO THE RUNWAY.
SO IF WE EVER HAD, UM, ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY IN THE FORM OF VERTICAL TAKEOFF AND LANDING VEHICLES, THEY WOULD BE OPERATING AT OUR AIRPORT JUST LIKE HELICOPTERS DO TODAY.
AND THEREBY AFFECTING THE OPERATIONS AND THE EFFICIENCY OF THE AIRFIELD.
NOW, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MODEL RELATED TO THIS TECHNOLOGY IS CONVENTIONAL TAKEOFF AND LANDING THAT AIRCRAFT LANDS AND TAKES OFF JUST LIKE ANY OTHER AIRCRAFT THAT WOULD OPERATE AND SINK IN WITH OUR CURRENT OPERATIONS AND BE LESS TO NO IMPACT, UH, TO THE OPERATIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION AGAIN, NO, WE DID NOT IDENTIFY LANDING ZONE FOR VERTICAL TAKEOFF AND LANDING BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT FACILITY AND WE DON'T HAVE THE DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE RUNWAY.
AND I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME, MAYOR.
UM, SO JAMIE, DO YOU REMEMBER THE LAST TIME THAT WE THIS CAME BEFORE COUNCIL? YES.
WHAT THAT DATE WAS? IT WAS OH, THE SPECIFIC DATE? NO, BUT I BELIEVE WE REVIEWED IT IN JULY.
AND THEN, SO WHEN, ON SLIDE NINE, UM,
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WE'VE GOT THESE, UH, WHAT APPEAR TO BE ELECTRICAL CHARGING STATIONS AT, UH, EACH ONE OF THE CURRENT FBOS.AND WHAT ARE THOSE, WHAT ARE THOSE FOR? SO, UM, AS WE HAVE HAD VISITS FROM SOME OF THE MANUFACTURERS OF THIS, UH, NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT'S COMING, ELECTRICAL, UH, BASED, UH, ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY VEHICLES.
AND WE WERE TRYING TO, AS PART OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, IDENTIFY A LANDING ZONE FOR THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY.
WE GOT A LOT, UH, A COUPLE OTHER PIECES OF INFORMATION.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND OUT IS THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE 45 MINUTES TO CHARGE THOSE VEHICLES, WHICH MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ESSENTIALLY A SPACE FOR THE PILOTS TO WAIT, UM, AS OPPOSED TO BEING IN THE SUN IN DALLAS, TEXAS WEATHER.
UM, SO THAT REQUIRES BASICALLY A CLIMATE CONTROL SPACE.
IT WOULD REQUIRE RESTROOMS. SO IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF A LANDING ZONE, IT'S ALSO ALL OF THE OTHER SUPPORTING FACILITIES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE BUILT WITH A LANDING ZONE FOR ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY.
SO, UM, THE CONVERSATION THEN WENT, LET'S TALK ABOUT FACILITIES THAT EXIST CURRENTLY WHERE HELICOPTERS, AS A MATTER OF FACT, OPERATE, UH, DOING VERTICAL TAKEOFF AND LANDING.
AND SO THE FBOS RIGHT NOW SEEM TO BE THE BEST CANDIDATE LOCATION TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT VERTICAL AND TAKEOFF LANDING AND THEREFORE WOULD BE THE BEST LOCATIONS TO HAVE THE ELECTRICAL CHARGING STATIONS TO SUPPORT THOSE VEHICLES.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SHOWN ON HERE.
SO THAT IF SOMEDAY THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET GRANTS FOR THAT TYPE OF HARDWARE, UH, WE COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE IT AVAILABLE AT THE FBOS.
SO IT, IT, IT'S THERE AS LIKE A PLACEHOLDER, LIKE WE MIGHT DO IT LATER, BUT WHAT DID, WHAT WERE YOU, HELP ME, I I WAS CONFUSED WITH YOUR ANSWER TO DAN YES.
THAT WE WEREN'T, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO EV TOLL 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ROOM.
NO, WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED A LANDING LOCATION, A SPECIFIC LANDING ZONE THAT WOULD BE USED BY ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY VEHICLES LIKE VERTICAL TAKEOFF AND LANDING VEHICLES.
AND, AND HAVE WE, UH, REACHED OUT TO THE FBOS, UH, REGARDING THAT? YES, WE HAVE REACHED OUT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, SOME OF THOSE MANUFACTURERS WHEN THEY CAME TO VISIT, UH, VISITED THE FBOS AND ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO SHARE INFORMATION LIKE, UH, WHAT KIND OF POWER, UH, THEY EACH HAVE.
UM, IN ONE CASE AT LEAST OF THOSE MANUFACTURERS, THEY ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO ENCORE, UM, AS WELL TO SEE WHAT AVAILABILITY OF POWER AND IF IT, IF THE CURRENT CAPACITY WOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE VEHICLES AT THE FBOS.
UM, SO, SO WE ARE OPEN TO THE THOUGHT.
WE JUST HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED EXACTLY WHERE THAT WOULD, WHERE THAT WOULD GO IS THAT, THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT REALLY IS THAT BASED ON TODAY'S FA GUIDANCE IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH SPACE YOU NEED TO HANG FROM A POTENTIAL LANDING ZONE TO THE RUNWAY, CURRENT GUIDANCE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THAT TO HAPPEN AT THE ADDISON AIRPORT.
AND CAN YOU FLIP TO SLIDE 10? YES.
SO, AND, AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH EV TOLL IS THE SAME AS THIS ACRONYM A A M, WHICH IS ADVANCED AIR MOBILITY.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING, HAVING, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE CAN INTEGRATE THAT LATER IS THAT CONTINUE TO TRACK THAT TECHNOLOGY, TRACK THE GUIDANCE FROM FA AND SEE WHERE WE CAN COME UP.
AND YES, SO I GUESS THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING ALL THOSE QUESTIONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE GUIDANCE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ON THAT LAST SLIDE AGAIN, UM, I AM DEFINITELY, UM, NOT OPENING TO WIDENING THE AIRPORT AND MOVING THE TAXIWAYS AND TRYING TO MOVE BUILDINGS AND ALL THAT CRAZINESS.
UM, AND I'M, I THINK THIS, UH, AND I'M, I'M STILL IN THE SAME PLACE I WAS WHENEVER WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST WITH THE, UH, WITH, UH, NO, NO RUNWAY EXTENSION.
I THINK THAT JUST BRINGS A CRAZY AMOUNT OF NOISE, UM, TO, TO THE NORTH.
I THINK WE'RE JUST KIND OF MOVING THE NOISE PROBLEM.
I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE DEFINITELY HAVE A, A A ALL NEW NOISE PROBLEM UP, UP IN THE NORTH.
UM, AND I, I'M WHERE, YOU KNOW, I'M, I I'M WHERE THE MAYOR AND RANDY IS AS FAR AS NOT, NOT EXTENDING THE RUNWAY, BUT I'M, I I'M, I'M IN APPROVAL OF, UH, UM, NOT INCLUDING THE GA PARKING AREA AND, AND OBVIOUSLY WHAT I SAID ABOUT NOT, NOT, NO, NO WIDTH.
SO, UM, THE, THE MAYOR'S NOT IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING THE RUNWAY.
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I CATCH THAT RIGHT? UH, I SAID I'M NOT IN FAVOR EXTENDING IT.SO REGARDING THE, UM, THE VTOLS, FIRST OF ALL, UM, SO IF THE FBOS, I GUESS IF WE ALREADY HAD, UH, A HELIPAD, UH, LANDING ZONE, THAT WOULD PROBABLY SAY THAT WE WOULD HAVE A SET UP FOR THE V THE VTOLS.
RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD BE THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION.
AND, AND I'M GLAD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION AS FAR AS THE GUIDANCE COMING FROM FAA, UM, RULES AND DIRECTIONS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW ALSO, NOT JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT, IT MEANS WE'VE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT ALL THE DETAILS.
IF, IF AN FBO, UM, DESIGNATES A SPOT FOR THE VTOLS, UH, DOES THAT HAVE TO BE A PART OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN OR IS THAT MORE JUST WITH THE FBOS SO LONG AS THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING ON THE RIGHT GUIDANCE ON THE DISTANCE FROM THE RUNWAYS AND SUCH, THAT WOULD BE ON THE FBOS AS LONG AS THEY FOLLOW THE GUIDANCE, YES.
SO WE WOULDN'T, THAT WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN.
AND AND THE ONLY REASON WHY WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING ON THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN IS 'CAUSE WE INTEND TO POTENTIALLY, UH, APPLY FOR AND BE GRANTED, UH, FUNDS, UH, FOR A FACILITY TO SUPPORT IT.
THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY CAUGHT THAT.
UH, SO THE VETOES CAN EASILY USE ADDISON AIRPORT.
IT WOULD JUST BE RIGHT THERE AT THE, UM, FBOS, WHICH MAKES A LOT OF SENSE ANYWAY, BECAUSE THEY, THEY NEED THE FACILITIES ALSO TO, TO GET ONTO THEIR LAST MILE, UH, AND DO THE THINGS THEY NEED TO DO FOR THEIR AIRCRAFT CHARGING, ET CETERA, HOUSING IT MAYBE HANGERS AND SUCH OVERNIGHT, UM, ON THE HIGH SPEED TAXIWAYS.
UH, SO FOR THE SAME REASON YOU HAVE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS ON THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT DO, UH, HOW, HOW LIKELY ARE THE HIGH SPEED TAXIWAYS? ARE THEY JUST IN THERE IN CASE WE WANNA DO 'EM? OR IS THAT A PRETTY STRONG, UM, NEXT THING IN THE NEXT OR ALREADY PLANNED? THE HIGH SPEED, UH, TAXIWAYS WOULD ONLY BE NEEDED ONCE WE REACH CERTAIN THRESHOLDS OF OPERATIONS AT OUR AIRPORT.
AND THAT REALLY IS THE DETERMINED, THERE'S A SECTION, I BELIEVE IT'S, UH, CHAPTER THREE IS THE FORECAST OF AIRCRAFT, UM, THAT WE WOULD HAVE AT OUR AIRPORT.
ONCE WE START TO REACH 160, 170,000 OPERATIONS, THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY START TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS WITH FA ABOUT THE POTENTIAL TO HELP WITH THE, UM, THE USAGE OF THE AIRPORT, THE CAPACITY OF THE AIRPORT AND THE HIGH SPEED TAXIWAYS WOULD COME INTO, UH, DISCUSSION.
BUT WE ARE A LONG WAYS FROM THAT RIGHT NOW.
I'D BE IN FAVOR OF LEAVING IT IN FOR THAT REASON, NOT THAT WE'LL NECESSARILY DO IT, BUT, UH, I WANNA HAVE IT IN THERE IN CASE WE, WE DO WANT TO, UH, EXERCISE THAT OPTION.
IT WOULD INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY OF THE LANDING AND TAKE OFF TRAFFIC, UM, ON THE BLAST WALLS.
UH, BEST I UNDERSTAND IS THE FAA RECOGNIZES BARRIERS AND BERMS AS WAYS TO MITIGATE, MITIGATE, UH, AIRCRAFT GROUND NOISE? IS THAT, IS THAT TRUE? THAT IS TRUE.
UM, SO TO, UH, COUNCILMAN SMITH'S COMMENT, UH, YES.
THAT, THAT IS A LOT OF POWER, UH, OF A, OF A LARGE AIRCRAFT TAKEN OFF DOWN THERE EVEN CLOSER TO THE, UH, GAS STATION AND SUCH.
UH, HOW, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE WITH THE BLAST WALLS THERE AND HOW TALL WOULD THEY BE? HOW MUCH NOISE DO WE EXPECT THEM TO MITIGATE? THE EXACT HEIGHT OF THE, UM, WALL AT THAT LOCATION FOR THAT EXTENSION HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED.
I SUPPOSE IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE, THE, THE AIR FLOW, BUT IT IS A LOT FOR THE NOISE AS WELL ON THE GROUND.
CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT IT'S DESIGNED FOR.
THAT'S, THAT'S, I, THAT'S KINDA, I, I LOOKED THAT UP A WHILE BACK AND I, I FOUND THAT TO BE, UH, I MEAN CERTAINLY IT'S, IT'S A HUGE IMPACT ON THAT, THAT NOISE.
OTHER THAN THE POSSIBLE NOISE MITIGATION OF THOSE TAKEOFFS, WHAT, WHAT OTHER REASON WOULD WE EXTEND THE RUNWAY? UM, FOR WHAT OTHER REASON WOULD WE EXTEND THE RUNWAY? RIGHT NOW, THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN, UH, SOLELY FOR, UH, BEING ABLE TO HELP WITH THE NOISE MITIGATION.
I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT LENGTHENING THE RUNWAY WILL REALLY HELP THE NOISE MITIGATION.
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IT, IT, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE, I THINK SOMEONE ELSE SAID IT, YOU WOULD JUST BE SWITCHING, YOU KNOW, NOISE FROM ONE END OF THE RUNWAY TO THE OTHER.UM, I'M ACTUALLY OKAY WITH THE HIGH SPEED TAXIWAYS.
I THINK THAT MIGHT ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC IF WE CONTINUE TO GROW.
UM, AND I'LL FOLLOW THE STEERING COMMITTEE'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION ON THE GA PARKING.
ONE POINT THAT I DID WANNA MAKE IS THAT, UM, RIGHT NOW THE MOST USAGE FOR TAKEOFFS ON OUR RUNWAY IS FROM THE NORTH END, SO DEPARTING TO THE SOUTH.
AND THAT'S BASED ON OUR WINDS.
THAT'S WHAT DETERMINING FACTOR IS IN TERMS OF WHAT DIRECTION WE TAKE OFF IN 70 TO 80% OF OUR WINDS ARE FROM THE SOUTH, SO THEREFORE 70 TO 80% OF OUR DEPARTURES ARE TO THE SOUTH.
WHICH IS WHERE WE HAVE MOST OF THE NOISE COMPLAINTS.
UH, JAMIE, YOU'VE GIVEN US MULTIPLE, UM, PRESENTATIONS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.
AND EVERY TIME YOU'VE BEEN ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY OR THE VERTICAL TAKEOFF, YOU'VE SIMPLY SAID, WE DON'T, WE CAN'T FIND A SPOT.
WE DON'T HAVE A SPOT BECAUSE OF REGULATIONS.
WHAT ARE THOSE REGULATIONS? WHAT, WHAT KIND OF SPOT ARE WE LOOKING FOR? UH, WHAT ARE THE, WHAT DOES IT SAY? THE REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHICH ARE, I'M GONNA SAY STILL BEING REFINED.
TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH RADIUS YOU NEED TO HAVE FOR THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE OF TWO THINGS.
ONE IS THE DOWN WASH THAT THE AIRCRAFT WILL HAVE.
SOME OF THE, UH, PROPOSED VERTICAL TAKEOFF AND LANDING VEHICLES THAT RIGHT NOW ARE FLYING HAVE UPWARDS OF 6, 8, 10, UH, ROTORS, IF YOU WILL, THAT ARE PRETTY SIZABLE AND PRODUCE A LOT OF DOWN WASH.
AND SO, UH, BASED ON THAT, PRIMARILY THE FA RIGHT NOW IS TAKING A VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVE, SAFE BASED APPROACH AND MAKING THAT RADIUS THAT'S REQUIRED VERY BIG, TOO BIG FOR US TO BE ABLE TO FIT IN ANY CURRENT LOCATION RIGHT NOW.
WELL, THE DOWN WASH OF ANY HELICOPTER IS BASED ON THE WEIGHT OF THE HELICOPTER.
AND THESE EVS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE VERY LIGHT AIRCRAFT.
THEY MAY HAVE EIGHT ROTORS, BUT THEY'RE NOT LIFTING 12,000 POUNDS LIKE A HUEY OR A BELL 2 22 WOULD BE.
SO THE DOWN FORCE IS NOT EQUAL TO THAT.
MY, IF WE TAKE OUT THIS EXTENSION OF THE RUNWAY AND WE'RE LOOKING OVER TO THE NORTH, WE'VE GOT THESE SPOTS OF LAND.
MY SIMPLE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH ROOM DO WE NEED? AND ARE WE, I DON'T WANT THIS MASTER PLAN TO BE DATED, OUTDATED BEFORE IT EVER GETS FINALIZED ON PAPER.
IF WE WE'RE, WE ARE IN A TIME OF GROWING TECHNOLOGY THAT I WANT THIS AIRPORT IN THIS TOWN TO BE ABLE TO EMBRACE IF WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND IF WE JUST KEEP LETTING BIG HANGERS BE BUILT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANY PLACE THAT WE CAN GET CREATIVE AND LOOK AT THIS? I, I, I DON'T WANNA FALL BEHIND THE POWER CURVE ON THIS.
SO THERE ARE, THERE ARE TWO FACTORS.
ONE IS DEFINITELY THE SIZE OF THAT, UM, LOCATION IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO LEND.
SOMETHING THAT I DID WANNA EXPLAIN IN TERMS OF HELICOPTER OPERATIONS TODAY, HELICOPTERS TODAY, UM, DON'T HAVE HELICOPTER LANDING SPOTS AT THE FBOS.
WHAT HAPPENS IS A HELICOPTER WILL COME INTO LAND MUCH LIKE A CONVENTIONAL AIRCRAFT, IT'LL HOVER OVER THE RUNWAY, GET TO A CERTAIN LOCATION, THEN IT'LL EXIT THE RUNWAY ONTO A TAXIWAY, AND THEN IT'LL HOVER TO A DESIGNATED LANDING SPOT AT THE RESPECTIVE FBOS.
BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY COME DIRECTLY OVER AND LAND IMMEDIATELY ONTO THE FBO LOCATION.
SO, UM, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE NONE OF THE FBO LOCATIONS HAVE ENOUGH DISTANCE BETWEEN THEIR RAMPS AND THE RUNWAY TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THAT.
SO THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING.
ONE IS DEFINITELY THE SIZE RIGHT NOW FOR FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
WE DON'T HAVE A RAMP THAT WILL BE ABLE TO, UM, SUPPORT AN IMMEDIATE TAKEOFF IN LANDING BASED ON THE CURRENT FA GUIDELINES.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET.
I KNOW WE DON'T CURRENTLY, BUT WE HAVE VACANT LAND ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT AND AT THE NORTH END OF THE AIRPORT.
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CAN ANY OF THAT BE UTILIZED? NO.UH, WHEN WE LOOKED AT, AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHY THE SECOND ELEMENT, THE SECOND ELEMENT IS THAT NOT ONLY IS THERE NO SPACE TO LAND, THERE'S NO SPACE THAT'S FAR ENOUGH FROM THE RUNWAY TO ALLOW THAT.
SO, ALTHOUGH I KNOW YOU SEE A LOT OF VACANT SPACE OVER ON THE NORTH SIDE, NONE OF IT IS FAR ENOUGH FROM THE RUNWAY PATH AND THE RUNWAY DISTANCE, THE ACTUAL PAVEMENT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT.
I, I REALLY WOULD HOPE WE COULD GET INNOVATIVE WITH A PENCIL AND TRY TO FIND SOMETHING.
I, ONCE AGAIN, I DO NOT WANT THIS PLAN TO BE OUTDATED BEFORE WE EVER PUT IT ON AND WE WISHED WE HAD GONE BACK AND DONE SOMETHING.
LAST, LAST QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, JIMMY.
ON SLIDE NINE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD MRFP TO BE ISSUED FOR THE FUTURE.
SO IF THIS, TO RANDY'S POINT TO OUR POINT, IF THIS IS A POTENTIAL LAND AREA THAT WOULD BE UNDER REDEVELOPMENT AND A DEVELOPER WOULD COME IN TO THE TOWN STAFF AND PROPOSE JUST WHAT'S IN THE NEWS TODAY AND YESTERDAY WITH, WITH THESE AIR TAXES, VERTICAL TAXES COMING TO DALLAS AND AUSTIN AND HOUSTON, UM, WOULD THAT NOT BE A GENERAL AREA TO PUT SOMETHING IN, IN LOCATION M IT WOULD BE A, A POTENTIAL LOCATION FOR THOSE AIRCRAFT TO OPERATE OUT OF, BUT NOT UNDER THE CURRENT GUIDANCE TO DIRECTLY LAND AND TAKE OFF FROM.
BUT COULDN'T THEY BE GUIDED BY THE FAA TO DO EXACTLY WHAT HELICOPTERS ARE DOING NOW, WHICH HAS COME IN ON THE RUNWAY? YES.
SO WE'RE NOT, SO TO, TO RANDY'S POINT, WE ARE, ARE NOT SORT OF ON THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN GOING TO BE READY IF THAT HAPPENED TOMORROW, THAT THAT BUSINESS COMES IN TO REDEVELOP WITH EXPONENTIAL AMOUNTS OF MONEY, MONEY IS NO ISSUE.
THEY COULD OR COULD NOT TAKE THAT POTENTIAL LAND AND HAVE VERTICAL TAXIS IF FOLLOWING THE FAA GUIDELINES LIKE A HELICOPTER.
SO YES, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN ANY OF THESE, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS THAT YOU SEE DEPICTED HERE, YOU COULD HAVE AN AIR TAXI OPERATOR THAT WOULD, COULD COME IN AND SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO REDEVELOP THIS AREA FOR OUR OPERATIONS.
WHAT WOULD THOSE OPERATIONS LOOK LIKE BASED ON TODAY'S FA GUIDELINES? WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IS THAT THEY WOULD, UH, HOVER OVER THE RUNWAY CORRECT.
TO LAND AND DEPART AND THEN HOVER OVER THE TAXIWAY TO GET TO THAT LOCATION JUST LIKE HELICOPTERS DO TODAY.
SO I THINK WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE THEN.
WE, WE, WE COULD BE READY FOR THIS TO THE POINT IT SHOULD BE IN THE MASTER MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN TO USE THAT LANGUAGE THAT YES, EVS AND OR AIR TAXIS, WHATEVER YOU WANNA REFER THEM AS, CAN BE A PART OF THE MASTER CHASE MTP FOR THE FUTURE OF ADDISON'S AIRPORT IF THEY FOLLOW FA GUIDELINES.
THE ONLY THING THAT WE CANNOT, THAT WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN IS A DIRECT LANDING ZONE FOR VERTICAL TAKEOFF AND LANDING AT OUR AIRPORT.
I JUST THINK, WELL, I THINK WE'RE BEATING THE HORSE.
I THINK THAT PUTS THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
I THINK WE DO HAVE THE AREA, THE LAND, AND THE POTENTIAL FOR A DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND BUY LAND AND DEVELOP IT FOR THAT LEVEL OF BUSINESS.
THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO GET AT.
AND TO YOUR POINT EARLIER YOU SAID IF IT'S NOT ON THIS PIECE OF PAPER, WE CAN'T TAKE IT TO THE FAA.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO AT LEAST PUT A CONCEPTUAL IDEA ON THERE SO WE COULD COME BACK TO IT LATER.
TO YOUR POINT, EARLIER IN YOUR PRESENTATION, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH.
SOMEBODY ELSE GOING, OH, I'M SORRY.
IS THAT, I, I'M, I'M MISSING SOMETHING HERE.
EV TOLLS ARE NOT JUST GONNA COME AND LAND ON A HELIPAD AND WALK AWAY.
THEY'RE GONNA COME IN, THEY'RE GONNA GET TO THE FBO, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HOVER OVER THE TAXIWAYS THE WAY THAT THE, UH, HOVERCRAFT ARE COMING IN NOW, THE HELICOPTERS AND THEY'RE GONNA GO TO THE FBO AND THEY'RE GONNA GET OUT AND GET IN THE CAR AND GO SOMEWHERE, OR THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE IT, UH, WORKED ON, OR THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UM, GOING BACK AND FORTH TO WORK AND THAT EV TO IS GONNA GO SOMEWHERE.
UH, IT'S THE FBOS ARE PART OF THE EQUATION.
I, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM AT ALL.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED A WASTE SPACE ON A DEDICATED EV TOLL PLACE.
'CAUSE YOU LAND AT THE NORTH END OF THE RUNWAY, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? YOU'RE GONNA TAKE A, A GOLF CART OUT THERE TO GO PICK SOMEBODY UP AND, AND LEAVE IT.
WHERE ARE YOU GONNA PUT IT? IT'S GOTTA GO TO AN FBOI, I THINK IT'S JUST A, A, A CONVERSATION THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, UNNECESSARY.
NO, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT, DARREN.
AND, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HAVE THIS IN THERE IN SOME KIND OF WAY, HOWEVER THAT CAN LOOK TO WHERE WE'RE NOT, I MEAN, RANDY MAKES A GOOD POINT.
YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S THINK FORWARD INSTEAD OF JUST GETTING, UH, GOING WITH WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
'CAUSE I MEAN, I THINK TODAY YOU COULD PROBABLY MAKE THE OPERATION WORK IF YOU NEEDED TO.
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ANY OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS TODAY, ANY TYPE OF OPERATION THAT'S AERONAUTICAL BASED CAN OPERATE OUT OF.WHETHER IT'S HELICOPTERS, UH, ELECTRICAL VEHICLES THAT ARE A A M CONVENTIONAL TAKEOFF, ANYTHING CAN OPERATE AERONAUTICAL AT ANY OF THESE LOCATIONS AS PART OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN.
WE HAVE NOT, UM, PINPOINTED EXACTLY WHAT TYPE OF AERONAUTICAL ACTIVITIES WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR THESE AREAS.
WE'RE JUST RECOMMENDING THAT AT SOME POINT THEY WOULD BE REDEVELOPED.
THE ONLY THING THAT CANNOT BE ACHIEVED AS PART OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN IS A DESIGNATED LANDING ZONE FROM WHICH YOU WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATE LANDING AND TAKEOFF.
I THINK, I THINK WE GOT THAT POINT.
BUT I, I WOULD, I'D LIKE FOR THERE TO BE SOMETHING IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE TOWN DESIRES TO HAVE AS PART OF THE AIRPORT OPERATION.
AND JUST ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION OR POINT YOU, YOU'VE ALSO IN, IN MANY OF YOUR PRESENTATIONS POINTED OUT THAT WE WOULD NEED RESTROOMS, WE WOULD NEED INFRASTRUCTURE, WE WOULD NEED ALL OF THIS.
WE DON'T BAT AN EYE ABOUT SPENDING $10 MILLION FOR A TAXIWAY.
MAYBE PUTTING A COUPLE OF BATHROOMS IN A BUILDING IN FOR A PILOT TO GO SIT IN WHILE HE WAITS 45 MINUTES FOR HIS AIRCRAFT TO RECHARGE IS AN, IS AN OBSTACLE TOO BIG TO THINK ABOUT IS ALL I'M SAYING.
CAN YOU GO TO YOUR, THAT LAST SLIDE WITH, WITH WHAT YOUR DIRECTION YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
SUPPORT THE UPDATE AS AMENDED.
I, WE WILL PROBABLY GET SOME CLARITY AROUND THAT.
SO THE RUNWAY EXTENSION, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S, THAT'S IN SECOND BULLET.
UH, WHAT WERE THE OTHER PARTS OF THE AMENDED? SO THE, THE AMENDED MASTER PLAN THAT WENT TO THE COMMITTEE HAD THE EXTENSION OUT.
WE HAVE DIRECTION FROM COUNSEL EXTENSION IS GONNA BE OUT GOING FORWARD.
I DON'T HEAR ANYBODY SAYING PUT THE WIDENING BACK IN.
IT, IT NEVER INCLUDED GA PARKING.
WE DON'T HAVE DIRECTION TO ADD GA PARKING.
SO OTHER THAN THAT, THE MASTER PLAN WILL BE GOING FORWARD.
WITH THE CHANGES WE TALKED ABOUT WITH
AND AS FAR AS THE HIGH SPEED TAXI WISE, I'M OKAY WITH HAVING 'EM AS PART OF THE, THE MASTER PLAN, JUST AS A IF AND WHEN THAT TIME EVER COMES, THEN WHOEVER'S SITTING IN THESE CHAIRS AT THAT TIME CAN MAKE THAT DECISION IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT OR NOT.
SO THE, THE EXTENSION IS A MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL DOES, DOES NOT FAVOR THAT.
ARE WE, UH, GETTING THAT DIRECTION? YES.
UH, THAT'S OUR LAST WORK SESSION ITEM.
WE DO HAVE JUST A SHORT, UH, REGULAR MEETING.
WHY DON'T WE TAKE AN EIGHT MINUTE BREAK UNTIL EIGHT 10 AND THEN WE'LL RECONVENE IN THE, UH, COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO WRAP UP THE EVENING.
[COUNCIL MEETING]
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.AND WE'LL, UH, RECONVENE THE COUNCIL INTO OUR REGULAR SESSION, UH, ON, UH, OCTOBER 27TH, 2026 FOR OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
UH, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL STILL PRESENT WITH SIX OF US, UH, PRESENT IN THE, UH, COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND COUNCIL MEMBER GARDNER IS JOINING US VIA ZOOM ONLINE, AND WE'D LIKE TO START TO WITH PLEDGE, WITH THE PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDERGONE INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS.
ONE STATE UNDERGONE ONE INDIVISIBLE.
WE HAVE A PRETTY BRIEF AGENDA THIS EVENING.
[Proclamations / Presentations]
UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO, PROCLAMATIONS PRESENTATIONS TWO A IS CITY MANAGER ANNOUNCEMENTS AND TWO B EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION.A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR TONIGHT.
FIRST, THE COMMUNITY IS INVITED TO JOIN THE ADDISON POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR COFFEE WITH A COP ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 28TH AT 10:00 AM AT CHASE BANK, LOCATED AT 1 4 2 5 0 MARSH LANE.
THIS INFORMAL GATHERING IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW ADDISON'S POLICE OFFICERS, ASK QUESTIONS, AND SHARE WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND OVER A CUP OF COFFEE.
NEXT, BRING THE WHOLE FAMILY FOR A SPOOKY GOOD TIME AT LITTLE NIGHTS OF FRIGHTS ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 30TH FROM 6:00 PM TO 8:00 PM ADDISON TOWN APARTMENTS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS ARE TEAMING UP FOR AN EVENING OF TRICK OR TREATING ENTERTAINMENT, SNACKS, AND PLENTY OF HALLOWEEN FUN.
THIS EVENT IS PLANNED FOR LAY LOCKS
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PARK, BUT IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT THE FORECAST, WHICH WE HAVE WITH OUR KIDS, AND WE HAVE MIGHT HAVE A RAINY WEEKEND.IF THE WEATHER DOESN'T COOPERATE, WE'LL MOVE THE FESTIVITIES INSIDE THE AS ATHLETIC CLUB, WATCH THE TOWN SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS FOR ANY UPDATES.
FINALLY, WE'RE INVITING THE COMMUNITY TO ROLL UP THEIR SLEEVES AND KEEP ADDISON BEAUTIFUL AT OUR COMMUNITY CLEANUP.
ON SATURDAY NOVEMBER 7TH, VOLUNTEERS WILL BE HELPING SPRUCE UP OUR PARKS THROUGHOUT TOWN AND WE'LL PROVIDE ALL THE SUPPLIES.
ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS SIGN UP BY OCTOBER 30TH AND SHOW UP READY TO HELP.
VISIT ADDISON TX.GOV FOR DETAILS AND REGISTRATION.
THAT'S IT FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS, AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION.
I'LL ASK CHIEF FREEZE TO COME UP.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UH, CHRIS FREEZE, CHIEF OF POLICE.
IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE OFFICER MATTHEW KERIG.
MATTHEW KERIG IS A DEDICATED MEMBER OF THE ADDISON POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHOSE COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE PASSION FOR CONTINUOUS LEARNING AND DRIVE TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT HAVE SHAPED BOTH HIS PROFESSIONAL JOURNEY AND HIS APPROACH TO SERVING THE COMMUNITY.
HIS BACKGROUND IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, EDUCATION AND CUSTOMER FOCUS INDUSTRIES BRINGS A UNIQUE BLEND OF EXPERIENCE TO HIS ROLE AND REFLECTS HIS LONGSTANDING DESIRE TO CONTRIBUTE TO A SAFER, MORE CONNECTED COMMUNITY.
BORN AND RAISED IN LAVERNE, A SMALL TOWN IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
HE GREW UP WITH A STRONG APPRECIATION FOR CLOSE-KNIT COMMUNITIES, SOMETHING THAT WOULD LATER DRAW HIM TO ADDISON.
HE GRADUATED FROM DAMIEN HIGH SCHOOL IN 2017 BEFORE RELOCATING TO MANCHESTER NEW HAMPSHIRE, WHERE HE ATTENDED ST.
ANSELM COLLEGE AND EARNED A DEGREE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND CYBER CRIMINOLOGY, A LIFELONG LEARNER.
HE CONTINUED HIS EDUCATIONAL JOURNEY BY COMPLETING A MASTER'S DEGREE IN CRIMINOLOGY IN 2022.
AN ACCOMPLISHMENT HE'S ESPECIALLY PROUD OF.
BEFORE BEGINNING HIS LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER, HE EXPLORED SEVERAL PROFE PROFESSIONS THAT HELPED SHAPE HIS INTERPERSONAL LEADERSHIP SKILLS HERE IN A SUCCESSFUL SALES BUSINESS THROUGHOUT HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE BUILDING LONG LASTING RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.
HE ALSO SPENT NEARLY THREE YEARS IN THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY GAINING VALUABLE EXPERIENCE IN CUSTOMER SERVICE, COMMUNICATION, AND TEAMWORK.
EACH OF THESE ROLES PLAYED A MEANINGFUL PART IN PREPARING HIM FOR CAREER ROOTED IN PUBLIC SERVICE.
HE WAS DRAWN TO ADDISON BY ITS SMALL TOWN, FEEL ITS CULTURE OF CONNECTION AND ITS REPUTATION FOR PROFESSIONALISM.
HE KNEW HE WANTED TO BUILD A LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER IN NORTH DALLAS, AND ADDISON'S EMPHASIS ON RELATIONSHIPS BOTH WITHIN TOWN DEPARTMENTS AND WITH THE COMMUNITY IMMEDIATELY RESONATED WITH HIM.
SINCE BECOMING A SWORN OFFICER IN 2024, HE HAS DEVELOPED A STRONG FOCUS ON REDUCING IMPAIRED DRIVING WITH APPROXIMATELY 70 DWI ARRESTS.
HE TAKES PRIDE IN KNOWING HIS WORK CONTRIBUTES TO SAFER ROADWAYS IN A SAFER COMMUNITY.
AS A SIDE NOTE, HE WAS RECENTLY RECOGNIZED BY MOTHERS AGAINST DRUNK DRIVING FOR THEIR HERO AWARD FOR THE YEAR OF 2026 OUTSIDE OF WORK.
HE RECENTLY BECAME ENGAGED TO HIS FIANCE, KATIE.
TOGETHER THEY SHARE PIXIE THEIR BELOVED CAT OF MORE THAN FIVE YEARS, A DEVOTED LOS ANGELES DODGERS FAN.
HE ENJOYS FOLLOWING HIS TEAM WHEREVER HE CAN AND APPRECIATES ANY CHANCE TO UNWIND WITH SPORTS.
WHEN ASKED WHAT THE ADDISON WAY MEANS TO HIM, HE SHARED THAT IT IS ABOUT TAKING PRIDE IN THE WORK WE DO AND CONSISTENTLY STRIVING TO EXCEED EXPECTATIONS.
IT MEANS APPROACHING EACH TASK WITH PROFESSIONALISM, INTEGRITY, AND ACCOUNTABILITY, AND RECOGNIZING THAT EVERY INDIVIDUAL EFFORT CONTRIBUTES TO THE SUCCESS OF THE TEAM AS A WHOLE.
TO HIM, THE ADDISON WAY IS ALSO ABOUT INITIATIVE, SUPPORT AND SERVICE, ENSURING THAT THE COMMUNITY AND HIS COLLEAGUES CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON HIM.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING MATTHEW'S A VALUED MEMBER OF THE ADDISON TEAM.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU CHIEF FREEZE.
APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE, ADDISON.
ALRIGHT, NEXT WE'LL GO ONTO ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
CONSENT TONIGHT INCLUDES ITEMS FOUR A THROUGH 4G.
IS THERE A MOTION? MAYOR? MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO PULL FOUR E IF I COULD PULL FOUR E FOR DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU FOR I, I ALREADY PUT A CHECK MARK BY IT, SO NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
GOING BACKWARDS TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.
COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN A SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS.
CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW.
COUNSEL'S NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? BUT THANKS FOR TRYING
WE'LL CLOSE ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER
[Consent Agenda]
FOUR.AND UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLISTON WANTS TO PULL FOUR
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E FOR DISCUSSION.IS THERE A MOTION ON THE OTHER ITEMS? A MOTION TO APPROVE FOUR.
A, B, C, D, F, AND G? I'LL SECOND.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE ITEMS? ALRIGHT.
YOU WANT MARLON, YOU WANNA DISCUSS
[e. Consider action on a Resolution approving agreements for Disaster Debris Monitoring and Consulting Services between the Town of Addison and DebrisTech LLC, True North Emergency Management LLC, and Thompson Consulting Services LLC, and authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreements.]
FOUR E? YEAH.UM, YEAH, THE REASON I PULLED FOUR E IS, IS INITIALLY ON THE INITIAL AGENDA IT DID NOT HAVE, UH, EXHIBIT B, WHICH IS THE PRICING.
AND THE CITY MANAGER IS TELLING ME THAT, UM, THAT THE AGENDA HAS BEEN UPDATED NOW, SO THAT IT DOES INCLUDE THAT, UH, WE WERE ALL SHARED IN, UH, VIA EMAIL, UM, EXHIBIT B THAT SHOWS THE PRICING.
SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO TALK TO THAT POINT AND, UM, JUST WANTED TO, UH, POINT THAT OUT.
AND WITH THAT I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, FOUR E MOTION TO SECOND FOUR E.
THANK YOU MARLON, FOR THOSE UH, COMMENTS.
AND FOR THE SECOND, DAN, UH, ANY DISCUSSION? WHAT, WHAT IS THE COST ON THAT? IF YOU WANNA BRING THAT UP? YEAH, IT'S IN OUR EMAIL.
I GET THAT, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC MAY NOT BE GET OUR EMAILS.
WELL, YEAH, FOR ANYBODY WHO CARES, LIKE YOU INSINUATE, THEY WOULD GO TO THE AGENDA, THE UPDATED AGENDA, BUT IT'S AN HOURLY.
IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR, YOUR EMAIL, YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UM, AN HOURLY RATE BY ABOUT, UH, 60 DIFFERENT POSITIONS.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE, SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE VERBALLY.
UM, IT IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA.
BUT DID, WE HAD SEVERAL AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDAS THIS WEEK.
WE HAD A COUPLE AND I'M, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW WE COULD DO THAT.
I THOUGHT WE HAD TO POST THIS STUFF AT A CERTAIN TIME, BUT I GUESS WE JUST POST THE AGENDA ITEM AND THEN THE AMENDMENTS CAN COME IN.
THE ONLY THING THE LAST HOUR, THE ONLY THING WE POSTED IS THE AGENDA.
ANY MATERIALS WITH THE AGENDA, RIGHT? IT CAN BE DONE AT ANY TIME.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON FOUR E? ALRIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALL ITEM FOUR E IS APPROVED.
OKAY, THEN THOSE ARE ALL OF OUR REGULAR ITEMS. OUR FINAL ITEM
[Items of Community Interest]
FOR TONIGHT IS ITEM FIVE, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.IT'S THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNSEL TO EXPRESS, UH, SOME THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE INFORMATION, ET CETERA.
FIRST, I JUST WANT TO THANK B BECKY AND HER STAFF FOR GIVING UP PART OF THEIR SATURDAY MORNING TO, UH, PUT ON CLEAN UP THE CLUTTER.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.
UM, IT GAVE OUR RESIDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SECURELY SHRED SOME OF THEIR PERSONAL DOCUMENTS, UM, BRING, DROP OFF HAZARDOUS WASTE AND, AND KEEP IT OUTTA THE LANDFILLS.
AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE WAS A DONATION INVOLVED, UM, TO METROCREST SOCIAL SERVICES.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO WAS THERE, PARTICIPATED AND GAVE UP THEIR SATURDAY.
AND YEAH, I WAS AT CLEAN THE CLUTTER EVENT ALSO, AND UH, APPARENTLY WE HAD A HUGE, UH, TURNOUT.
THESE ARE THE EARLY BIRDS, SO I MISSED THE EARLY BIRD WAVE, BUT, UM, APPARENTLY THERE WAS, UH, UH, A BIG CROWD THAT SHOWED UP.
AND, AND UH, FOR ME IT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL TO BE ABLE TO TAKE SOME OF THESE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT YOUR REGULAR RECYCLE, UM, NOR TRASH COMPONENTS AND, AND, AND BE ABLE TWICE A YEAR BE ABLE TO, TO ATTEND THIS EVENT AND EASILY, UH, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE HELP WHEN YOU GET THERE.
UNLOAD THIS STUFF AND, AND, AND, AND TAKE IT.
SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE THAT.
WE ALSO, UH, RECENTLY HAD THE, UH, UM, 40TH ANNIVERSARY FOR ADDISON COFFEE ROASTERS.
UM, I BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS 42 YEARS.
THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH ALL KINDS OF, ALL KINDS OF STUFF, BUT, UH, THEY, THEY ARE GOING STRONG AND, AND THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THEY'RE STRONGER THAN THAN THEY'VE EVER BEEN.
I LOVE THEIR COFFEE EVERY MORNING.
AND THEN, THEN ONE MORE THING, UM, WE GET TO FINALLY ANNOUNCE IT NOW, RIGHT? UM, SO WE'VE GOT SAP COMING TO TOWN AND, UH, AND A THOUSAND OF THEIR EMPLOYEES.
AND, UM, AND SO THEY'RE GONNA BE AT, UH, SPECTRUM CENTER, UM, ROUGHLY SUMMER OF NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS A, A REALLY, REALLY BIG DEAL.
AND SO WE'VE HAD SOME FOLKS IN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM WORKING ON THIS AND A LOT OF OTHER STUFF FOR A LONG TIME.
AND SO IT WAS NICE TO SEE, UM, ADDISON GET THIS, BUT, BUT IT WAS LED BY OUR ECONOMIC TEAM, SO VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
AND UM, AND, AND WE DON'T ALWAYS GET TO PUBLICLY SPEAK ABOUT THE THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON, UH, WITHIN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, BUT, BUT I CAN SHARE THIS IS, UM, IS, UH, FROM MY TENURE COMING UP ON EIGHT YEARS, WE'VE, WE'VE NEVER HAD AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE, LIKE, LIKE WHAT I'M SEEING RIGHT NOW.
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THANK YOU.JUST WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WE HAD NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY NUMBER ONE TO THE STAFF, GREAT JOB.
AND ALSO ON THE FALL MEETING, I WANTED TO COMMEND MR. MAYOR.
YOU ALWAYS DO SUCH A GREAT JOB.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO.
AND THEN ALSO I WAS EXCITED ABOUT THE SAP, UH, SAP ALSO COMING TO TOWN, SO TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
I'VE GOT ONE MORE
WANNA CONGRATULATE FLIGHT CLUB FOR FINALLY GETTING IN INTO THE, UH, UH, VOP VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.
WENT TO AN LITTLE EVENT WITH SOME OF THE FELLOW COUNCIL AND MAYOR AND, UH, THOUGHT I WAS COMPETITIVE, BUT MAYOR IS MUCH MORE COMPETITIVE AT DARTING, SO BE CAREFUL.
UH, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING READY? OKAY.
SO, UM, YES, CONGRATULATIONS TO FLIGHT CLUB FOR OPENING.
THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY LARGE RENOVATION OVER THERE IN THE OLD SHERLOCKS.
I DO HAVE TO ADMIT THAT CHANEL BEAT ME IN THE DARTS,
HARD TO ADMIT, BUT SHE'S, SHE'S, SHE'S A KILLER.
UH, CONGRATULATIONS TO ADD SOME COFFEE ROASTERS.
WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE THERE.
SUPER EXCITED AND PROUD FOR THEM.
UM, AND I'M GONNA, UM, ECHO WHAT MARLON SAID ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THEY'RE CRUSHING IT, AND WE NEED IT.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S GONNA SELL ADDISON EXCEPT FOR ADDISON.
AND ALONG WITH MARKETING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IT, IT IS, IT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE AND KNOW WE'RE SPENDING SOME MONEY ON SOME INCENTIVES.
IT'S, IT'S A REALLY GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
SO KUDOS TO WAYNE AND DAVID AND THE WHOLE TEAM.
IT IS JUST, UM, IT'S REALLY, REALLY NICE TO SEE THAT.
IT, IT MAKES ME SLEEP BETTER AT NIGHT, SO, GREAT JOB.
JUST, I'LL, I'LL MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT ADDISON COFFEE ROASTERS EVENT.
IT FUN TO GO AND CELEBRATE THEM.
AND, AND, UH, AND JUST FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T AWARE OF THE ADDISON COFFEE ROASTERS, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE PLACE WHERE YOU GO BUY YOUR COFFEE AND YOU TAKE IT HOME.
BUT THEY DID A LITTLE REMODEL NOT LONG AGO AND THEY CONVERTED THEIR BREAK ROOM INTO A LITTLE COFFEE BAR.
SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO AND BUY A CUP OF COFFEE AND SIT DOWN AT A TABLE AND ENJOY IT.
SOME OF THAT DELICIOUS COFFEE.
SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER OF BELTWAY AND BELTWAY.
UH, IT'S INTERESTING HOW STREET IN INTERSECT ITSELF, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS.
BUT YEAH, GO CHECK IT OUT AND, UH, SIT DOWN AND ENJOY A CUP OF COFFEE.
THEY DON'T DO FOOD OR ANYTHING, IT'S JUST COFFEE.
UM, THE OTHER THING, UM, YESTERDAY MORNING I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF TAKING A LONG OVERDUE CPR CLASS AT FIRE STATION ONE WITH, UH, FIREFIGHTER, UH, PHILIP HYDE.
ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS, GARY MCINTYRE, WAS ABLE TO JOIN US OVER THERE.
UH, AND THEN WE HAD A COUPLE OF FOLKS WITH A, UH, FROM A, UH, A BUSINESS, A LOCAL BUSINESS CAME.
AND, UH, SO THERE WERE FOUR OF US IN THE CLASS, AND HE DID A REALLY NICE JOB IN THE CLASS.
HE, HE MAKES YOU UNDERSTAND IT.
I'M NO LONGER INTIMIDATED BY THE A EDI.
AND SEE, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE AND MAYBE I COULD EVEN ACTUALLY DO IT, UH, GOD FORBID IF I EVER HAVE TO.
SO, BUT IT WAS A REALLY GOOD CLASS.
HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT RIGHT THERE AT FIRE STATION ONE.
AND, UH, UH, PHILLIPS IS YOUR GUY FOR THAT.
WANNA WISH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS D FRANCISCO, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TOMORROW.
AND WITH THAT, IT'S UH, 8 28 AND WE WILL ADJOURN FOR THE EVENING.