* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Call to Order] [00:00:02] OKAY, GOOD EVENING. IT IS FIVE THIRTY THREE AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 13TH, 2026. AND THIS WILL BE OUR WORK SESSION MEETING. AT THIS POINT, UH, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT WITH SIX MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE, AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER DE FRANCISCO IS NOT ABLE TO JOIN US THIS EVENING, AND WE WILL GO RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO. PUBLIC COMMENT. THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, UH, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA. COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS. CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW. UH, THE COUNCIL'S NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. AND I DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND [Council Member Clarification on Consent Agenda Items] MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, COUNCIL MEMBER CLARIFICATION ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION DEED ON ANYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FROM COUNCIL? NO. ALL THEN, UH, THREE A COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARE SENT IN FROM THE COUNCIL TO THE STAFF REGARDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. UH, THOSE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED AND PLACED INTO A DOCUMENT SENT, UH, INTO ONE DOCUMENT. AND THAT DOCUMENT IS SENT OUT TO THE COUNCIL. THE SAME DOCUMENT IS UPLOADED TO THE TOWN WEBSITE, SO ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC CAN ACCESS THAT DOCUMENT BY GOING INTO THE ADDISON TX.GOV WEBSITE. FIND THE AGENDA AND THERE WILL BE A LINK TO THAT DOCUMENT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AT THIS TIME. ALRIGHT, ITEM [Closed Session] NUMBER FOUR, CLOSED SESSION. THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL WILL ENTER, ENTER CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 5 51 DASH 7 1 9 TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS FOR A PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.087, SECTION ONE AND TWO DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS TO DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE REGARDING COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT OR BUSINESS PROSPECT SO THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE, STAY OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE TERRITORY OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND WITH WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OR TO DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO SUCH BUSINESS PROSPECT OR BUSINESS PROSPECTS. AND THESE ARE PROJECT PEGASUS AND PROJECT ROME. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ITEM FOUR B PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 5 51 0.07, ONE SECTION TWO AND 5 51 0.072 TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE TOWN'S LEGAL COUNSEL RELATED TO THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE POLICE AND COURTS FACILITIES. CURRENTLY LOCATED AT 47 99 AIRPORT PARKWAY, INCLUDING THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY IN CONNECTION. THEREWITH, IT IS 5 36 AND WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THIS TIME. OKAY, [Open Meeting] IT IS 7 31 AND WE'RE COMING BACK INTO OPEN SESSION FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION. UH, IT'S 7 31 AND THERE'S NO ACTION FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE FROM THAT CLOSED SESSION. AND WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR WORK SESSION REPORTS. AND, UH, WE ONLY HAVE ONE WORK SESSION ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM SIX A. UM, AND WE ARE GOING TO RESCHEDULE THAT ITEM UNTIL THE, OUR OCTOBER 27TH MEETING. UM, AND SO WITH THAT WE WILL GO AHEAD AND RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO BEGIN OUR REGULAR MEETING. SO IT'S 7 32 NOW MAYOR LEE. OKAY. IT IS SEVEN FORTY TWO AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL FOR OUR REGULAR MEETING ON OCTOBER 13TH, 2026. AND, UH, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT WITH SIX MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING. COUNCIL MEMBER FRANCISCO IS NOT ABLE TO JOIN US, AND AS ALWAYS, WE'D LIKE TO START TO WITH THE PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS. IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE AS YOU'RE ABLE. IP ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD. ONE INDIVISIBLE. OKAY, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. APOLOGIZE FOR THE, UH, DELAY GETTING STARTED WITH OUR SEVEN O'CLOCK MEETING. UH, WE'RE GOING RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS TWO, A CITY MANAGER ANNOUNCEMENTS AND TWO B EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION. DAVID GAINES. I'LL SPEED [00:05:01] US ALONG. WE ACTUALLY HAVE NO ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT AND OUR EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION IS GONNA BE DELAYED DUE TO AN EMERGENCY. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU, MAYOR. WELL, THAT WAS CONCISE, . THANK YOU DAVID. ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT. THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA. COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS. CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW. THE COUNCIL'S NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSSING THE ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. AND I DON'T HAVE ANY COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS IN FRONT OF ME. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE WILL CLOSE. ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT AND GO TO ITEM FOUR, [Consent Agenda] THE CONSENT AGENDA. UH, COUNSEL, THE CONSENT TONIGHT INCLUDES ITEMS FOUR A THROUGH FOUR F IS THERE A MOTION? MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE FOUR A THROUGH F. THANK YOU. I SECOND. SECOND. THANK YOU MARLON. AND THAT WAS DAN GOT IN ON THE SECOND THERE. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED. ALL RIGHT. ITEM [a. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request for a Planned Development Amendment, for 13.8+/- acres generally located on the north and south of Ponte Avenue and east of Bella Lane, currently zoned Planned Development (PD) through Ordinance No. O07-034 as amended by Ordinance Nos. O16-017 and O24-028, to approve a development plan with waivers to the development standards, including but not limited to, architectural standards for building massing and building materials standards. Case 1950-Z/Vitruvian Block 300.] FIVE A, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT FOR 13.8 ACRES, GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF PONTE AVENUE INTO EAST OF BELLA LANE. CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD THROUGH ORDINANCE NUMBER OH OH ZERO SEVEN DASH 0 3 4 AS AMENDED BY ORDINANCE NUMBERS OH ONE SIX AND, UH, THROUGH 0 1 7 AND OH TWO FOUR THROUGH 0 2 8 TO APPROVE OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH WAIVERS TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS FOR BUILDING MASSING AND BUILDING MATERIALS. STANDARDS CASE 1950 DASH Z SLASH VITRUVIAN BLOCK 300. CORY. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR. UM, I'M CORY BACK, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. AND TODAY I PRESENT TO YOU THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS WITH WAIVERS FOR CONSIDERATION FOR VITRUVIAN BLOCK 300 AREA. UH, THE SITE HISTORY FOR THIS, INITIALLY IN 2007, VITRUVIAN REZONED ABOUT ROUGHLY 99 ACRES TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THEN IN 2013, THEY, UH, EXPANDED THE PD AND ADDED ANOTHER ROUGHLY 21 ACRES IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER. UM, THAT'S ALSO KNOWN AS BROOKHAVEN VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER. THAT'S WHERE THE TOM THUMB IS TODAY. THEN IN 2016, THERE WAS A CONCEPT, UH, PLAN AMENDMENT THAT ADDED ADDITIONAL USES TO THE ENTIRE, UH, VITRUVIAN AREA IN 2021, THE VILLAS AT FIORE, WHICH IS A TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT, UM, WAS APPROVED FOR, UH, THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THAT AS WELL. AND IN 2024, FOR THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, THE BLOCK 300, 3 0 1 AND 3 0 3 AND 3 0 2, WHICH WE'RE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT TONIGHT THOUGH, , UH, THAT AREA WAS, UH, AMENDED TO ENHANCE THE OPEN SPACE AND AMENITY AREAS, MODIFY BUILDING FOOTPRINTS. AND IN THEIR AND UNIT REALLOCATION, THERE WAS NO UNIT INCREASE, BUT THEY DID REALLOCATE THE NUMBER OF UNITS BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT MULTIFAMILY, UH, BLOCKS. UM, SO THIS PD REQUIRES THAT PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE DISTRICT, A PLANNING DEVELOP, A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROJECT MUST BE APPROVED BY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF DEVELOPMENT PLANS WITH WAIVERS FOR THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY AND AMENITY AREA FOR BLOCKS 303 0 1 AND 3 0 3 IN THE VITRUVIAN PARK CONCEPT PLAN. THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES LAY OUT CRITERIA, UH, REVIEW CRITERIA FOR FINAL PDS. AND IF THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS CONFORM WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN, THEN IT SHOULD BE APPROVED. HOWEVER, IF THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, UH, ARE INCLUDE ANY OF THE MODIFICATIONS FOR A, UM, PD AMENDMENT, THEN A NEW APPLICATION AND CONCEPT PLAN SHOULD BE REQUIRED. UH, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN INCLUDES 708 MULTIFAMILY UNITS BETWEEN TWO FIVE STORY WRAP BUILDINGS WITH THE PARKING GARAGE ROUGHLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING AND A SHARED AMENITY CENTER. THE UNIT MIX RANGES FROM TH STUDIOS TO THREE BEDROOM UNITS, AND THE AVERAGE UNIT SIZE IS 844 UH, SQUARE FEET. [00:10:01] THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, UH, TO SUBDIVIDE OR TO, UH, HAVE 304 UNITS IN BLOCK 3 0 1, WHICH IS THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. AND, UH, 404 UNITS IN BLOCK 3 0 3, WHICH IS THAT EASTERN BUILDING OF THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED 708 UNITS IS A 4.8 DECREASE FROM THE APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH DOES NOT TRIGGER THE PD AMENDMENT AND, UM, NEW CONCEPT PLAN BECAUSE IT IS WITHIN THE 5% RANGE. UM, SORRY. UH, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING THAT AMENITY BUILDING, WHICH IS A PERMITTED USE WITHIN THE ACCESSORY USES IN THE PD AS WELL AS THE MULTIFAMILY UNIT, UH, BUILDINGS ARE PERMITTED USES WITHIN THE PD. UH, THE PD ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE ONE SPACE PER BED PARKING SPACE PER BEDROOM, AND A MAXIMUM OF TWO PARKING SPACES PER UNIT , UH, BASED ON THE UNIT MIX. UM, FOR BLOCK 3 0 1, THE REQUIREMENT IS, UH, 401 PARKING SPACES. AND FOR BLOCK 3 0 3 REQUIREMENT IS TH 537 PARKING SPACES FOR A TOTAL OF 938 PARKING SPACES. UH, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROPOSES 1,048 PARKING SPACES. THIS INCLUDES 953 PARKING SPACES IN, UH, THE GARAGES 69 ON STREET PARKING SPACES AND 26 ON STREET ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING SPACES. SO THE PROPOSAL DOES EXCEED THE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS. THE MAJORITY OF THE UNITS ARE ONE BEDROOM UNITS WITH APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER OF THE UNITS BEING TWO BEDROOM UNITS AND THE OPEN SPACE . SO THE PD ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE OPEN SPACE FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. UM, IT'S AT A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTERESTING RATE, SO, UH, BEAR WITH ME AS I EXPLAINED HOW IT'S CALCULATED. UH, BUT OVERALL, UM, NO ADDITIONAL, UH, PARK PARKLAND DEDICATION IS REQUIRED WITH THE, UM, WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. BUT ESSENTIALLY THE RATIO IS TWO ACRES PER THOUSAND, UH, RESIDENTS UP TO 202,250 RESIDENTS. THEN IT'S A 1.5 ACRES PER THOUSAND OVER THE 2,250. UM, AND THE PD ASSUMES A, UH, 1.5 PERSONS PER UNIT. SO ESSENTIALLY, UH, WITH THE UNITS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, UM, IT THAT RESULTS IN 1,062 RESIDENTS AND WOULD REQUIRE TWO POINT, UH, ONE FOUR ACRES OF LAND. HOWEVER, UDR WHEN THEY REDID SOME OF THE CONCEPT PLANS ALREADY DEDICATED 12 ACRES OF PARKLAND. SO, UH, NO ADDITIONAL LAND IS REQUIRED FOR THAT. UM, PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENT FOR TREE MITIGATION, UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE 2,618 INCHES, CALIBER INCHES, UM, ACROSS ALL THREE OF THE BLOCKS. SO BLOCK 3 0 300, 3 0 1 AND 3 0 3, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REPLANT, UH, 1000 CALIBER INCHES AND THEN MITIGATE IT WITH FEE IN LIEU OF THE REMAINING THOUSAND 618, UH, CALIBER INCHES, WHICH RESULTS IN ROUGHLY $310,000 INTO THE MITIGATION FUND. UH, THE AMENITY BUILDING AND PRIVATE POOL WILL BE CONSTRUCTED, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING. THE AMENITY BUILDING IS GENERALLY CENTERED IN, UM, BETWEEN BLOCKS 3 0 1 AND 3 0 3 AND THE FUTURE 3 0 2. UH, THE AND AMENITIES INCLUDE THE LEASING OFFICE, A FACILITY FITNESS FACILITY, RESIDENT LOUNGES, COWORKING SPACE, A GAME ROOM, AND THEN THE PRIVATE POOL, WHICH IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. UH, THE PD ORDINANCE REQUIRES, UM, 80% MASONRY CONSTRUCTION ON ALL BUILDING ELEVATIONS VISIBLE FROM A FRONTING PUBLIC STREET. UH, THE ORDINANCE ALSO LIMITS THE BUILDING TO A MAXIMUM OF THREE BUILDING MATERIALS, EXCLUDING GLASS, AND REQUIRES THAT THE DOMINANT BUILDING COLORS BE IN A MUTED, UM, PALETTE. THE PROPOSAL FOR THE AMENITY BUILDING INCORPORATES TWO MATERIALS, WHICH ARE LIMESTONE VENEER AND FIBER CEMENT SIDING. AND THE PROPOSED COLOR PALETTE INCLUDES, UM, WHITE LIMESTONE, WOOD LOOK SIDING AND DARK SIDING. SO MUTED [00:15:01] ALL AROUND. THE MASONRY COVERAGE FOR THE AMENITY BUILDING RANGES FROM 57% TO 85%, AND IT'S A THREE STORY BUILDING, UM, WITH A MAXIMUM OF 42, UH, FEET. AND HEIGHT BLOCK 3 0 1 IS LOCATED, UH, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY AND IS PROPOSED TO BE A FIVE STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, UH, WITH 304 UNITS. THEY WILL BE HAVING A BIKE PARKING IN THE PARKING GARAGE, UM, AS A ROOM OFF TO THE SIDE FOR THAT. AND THERE'LL BE INTERNAL COURTYARDS FOR RESIDENTS IN THIS BUILDING AS WELL. AND THE MAJORITY OF THE, UH, UNIT TYPES WILL BE ONE BEDROOM AS SHOWN IN THE TABLE. IT'S GONNA BE FIVE STORIES IN A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 60 FEET. UM, AND THE MATERIALS ARE STUCCO, STONE MASONRY, AND FIBER CEMENT SIDING. THE PROPOSED, UH, COLOR PALETTE IS PREDOMINANTLY MONOCHROMATIC AND INCLUDES SHERWIN WILLIAMS, UH, GRABLE GRAY ANONYMOUS. IN URBAN BRONZE. UH, THOSE RANGE FROM A WHITE, A LIGHT CREAM COLOR, A GRAY, AND A DARKER, UM, DARKER BROWN BLACK COLOR. UM, THE MASONRY COVERAGES FOR BLOCK 301 RANGE FROM 56 TO 64% PER FACADE. THE ONLY FACADE THAT DOES NOT, UH, FRONT A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IS THE WESTERN FACADE. BLOCK 3 0 3 IS ALSO A FIVE STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING. UM, AND THIS ONE IS ON THE SOUTHWESTERN CORNER OF THE PRO PROJECT PROPERTY . IT INCLUDES, AGAIN, INTERNAL COURTYARDS AND THAT BIKE PARKING IN THE GARAGE AND IS PREDOMINANTLY ONE BEDROOM, UM, UNITS AS WELL. UH, THE, UM, MATERIALS FOR BLOCK 3 0 3 ARE VERY SIMILAR TO BLOCK 3 0 1 WITH STUCCO STONE MASONRY AND FIBER CEMENT SIDING. THE COLOR PALETTE IS THE SAME AS WELL. AND, UH, THE MASONRY COVERAGES COVERAGE RANGES FROM 60% TO 67% PER FACADE. AND ALL FACADES ON THIS BUILDING ARE FRONTING A PUBLIC, UM, A RIGHT OF WAY. ADDITIONALLY, THIS BUILDING INCLUDES, UM, A PARKING GARAGE THAT HAS AN EXPOSED SIDE TO IT. THE PD ORDINANCE LIMITS THE MINIMUM OR MAXIMUM LENGTH OF THE EXPOSED PARKING STRUCTURE TO 200 FEET, BUT THE PROPOSAL IS, UM, PROPOSED AT 247 FEET, WHICH EXCEEDS THAT MAXIMUM 200, UH, THAT'S PERMITTED BY THE PD ORDINANCE. THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE WAIVERS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. UM, THE PD ORDINANCE DOES AUTHORIZE THE ABILITY FOR PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE WAIVERS FROM CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH A VARIANCE PROCESS. BUT GOING THROUGH THE PD, UM, DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL, UH, THE FIRST REQUEST IS FOR MASONRY TO COUNT AT, OR SORRY, STUCCO TO COUNT AS MASONRY CONSTRUCTION. UM, THE MASONRY MATERIALS ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE PD AND STUCCO IS NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED. HOWEVER, IT IS A, UH, A CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL THAT IS FOUND THROUGHOUT VITRUVIAN PARK NEIGHBORHOOD AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA. IF, UH, IF THIS WAIVER IS APPROVED, IT WOULD RANGE FROM, UH, 57% ALL THE WAY UP TO 99% WOULD BE CONSIDERED MASONRY ON VARIOUS, UM, ELEVATIONS. EXCUSE ME. THE SECOND WAIVER IS FOR THE PARKING GARAGE. UM, ON BLOCK 3 0 3, UH, LIKE I MENTIONED, IT IS EXPOSED 247 FEET AND THE PD ALLOWS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 200 FEET. UH, HOWEVER, THE PD DOES ALLOW FOR EXCEPTIONS, UH, WHICH IS THAT THEY MUST PROVIDE ENHANCED FACADE MATERIALS. THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROPOSES RIBBED MATERIAL, RIBBED METAL SCREENING FOR APPROXIMATELY EVERY 44 FEET OF THAT 247 FEET. AND BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, UM, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE PDS DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE OVERALL BUILDING AND THE TREATMENT OF THE GARAGE FACADE. THE FINAL WAIVER REQUEST IS TO ALLOW PORTIONS OF THE AMENITY BUILDING TO EXCEED THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE BUILD TWO AREA FOR TYPE C STREETS. UM, THE PD FOR [00:20:01] VITRUVIAN LAYS OUT THE BUILD TWO AREA FOR VARIOUS TYPES OF STREETS, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE WITHIN VITRUVIAN. UH, THE, THE STREETS THAT ARE IN THIS, UH, PROPOSAL ARE ALL TYPE C STREETS, WHICH REQUIRES A SIX TO NINE FOOT BUILD, TWO AREA. THE AMENITY BUILDING, UM, I'M SORRY, DIDN'T GO FORWARD, MY BAD. . UM, THE AMENITY BUILDING, UM, SHOWN HERE IS THE YELLOW AREA IS WHAT'S CONSIDERED THE BUILD TWO, UM, AREA. AND THE AREA THAT IS, UH, IN THE RED OR PINK COLOR IS THE AMOUNT OF THE BUILDING THAT IS ACTUALLY WITHIN THAT BUILD TWO AREA. AND THAT'S ROUGHLY 53% OF THE BUILDING, WHICH DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF 70%. UM, SO THEY, UH, THE PROPOSAL IS TO USE THE REMAINING PORTION OF WHAT IS NOW CONSIDERED A PLAZA IN FRONT OF THE AMENITY BUILDING, UM, FOR AN ADDITIONAL PEDESTRIAN ENHANCEMENTS, AS WELL AS IT ALLOWS FOR A CLEAR CORNER, UM, VISION AT THIS INTERSECTION. BECAUSE IT IS A WIDE INTERSECTION AND HAVING A BUILDING ALL THE WAY TO THE CORNER COULD LIMIT THE VISIBILITY OF THE OTHER STREETS. UM, UH, STAFF DID NOTICE THIS PROJECT AND FOR WITH EVERYONE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, INCLUDING, UM, DALLAS, ISD, UH, WE'VE RECEIVED NO, UM, UH, NO, UH, INFORMATION FROM OTHER, FROM THOSE RECIPIENTS. AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR TO ZERO TO ONE, ONE PERSON DID HAVE TO RECUSE THEMSELVES. STAFF HAS EVALUATED THIS PROJECT AND DOES FIND THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN VITRUVIAN. AND STAFF HAS ALSO REVIEWED THE PLANS FOR THE WAIVER REQUESTS AND, UM, DOES THINK THAT THEY'RE, THAT IT MEETS ALL APPLICABLE DEVELOPMENT RE REGULATIONS AND, UM, THAT THE, UH, THE, THE WAIVERS ARE CONSISTENT WITH, UM, THE PD ORDINANCE. AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU, CORY. THAT'S A ALLEGED, UH, THOROUGH PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. PRESENT. THANK YOU. IT'S A LOT. SO, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE CON CONSIDERING THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR A PROJECT THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED. UM, THE USES, UH, AND THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND THE BUILDING FOOTPRINTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. UM, SO THEY'RE COMING BACK AND SAYING, HERE'S WHAT THE PROJECT IS ACTUALLY GONNA LOOK LIKE. UM, AND SINCE THE REVIEW CRITERIA IS, UM, IF IT, IF IT MEETS THE CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH IT DOES, UM, IT SHOULD BE APPROVED. BUT IF IT, IF YOU DEEM THAT IT DOES NOT, THEN UH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO A NEW APPLICATION FOR CONCEPT PLAN APPROVAL AND PD AMENDMENT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. MARLEY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, ON THE PREVIOUS, UH, PRELIMINARY PD THAT, THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED, WAS THERE ANYTHING ON HEIGHTS OF THE BUILDINGS? I SEE THE, LIKE THE FORM, FORM FACTOR, AERIAL VIEW FORM FACTOR, BUT I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS IF THERE WAS ANY, UM, HAD TO BE SO MANY FLOORS. UM, I WOULD HAVE TO PULL UP THE, UH, PD TO LOOK AT THE BUILDING HEIGHT. UM, BUT THEY DID MEET THE BUILDING HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS, UM, IN IT, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT, UM, UH, MAXIMUM HEIGHT, BUT THEY WERE UNDER THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT. OKAY. OR WERE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE NUMBERS? THE WAY I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF, IF THE PREVIOUS PLAN THAT'S APPROVED SAID HOWEVER MANY FLOORS THEY WERE GONNA BE. I KNOW THAT THESE WERE GONNA BE PRETTY BIG BUILDINGS AND YEAH, THE, THE CONCEPT PLAN DOES NOT APPROVE NUMBER OF FLOORS, JUST BUILDING FOOTPRINT. OKAY. AND NUMBER OF UNITS. AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS, UM, ON THE CHANGING THE, THE MASON RECONSTRUCTION MM-HMM . TO, WHAT DID WE SAY? STUCCO. STUCCO TO COUNT AS MASONRY. MM-HMM . UM, SO RIGHT NOW WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE STUCCO? UH, MINIMUM 50. YOU SAY 53%, SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UM, YES. UH, 57. 57%. YEAH. OKAY. 50, 57, 56. AND THEN IF WE UNDID THAT AND WE, UM, ALLOWED, WE ALLOWED THEM TO SAY THAT THAT STUCCO IS MASONRY, THAT WOULD CHANGE THAT TO HIGH, UH, ROUGHLY OVERALL YOU'RE LOOKING AT 95%, 95% MM-HMM . OKAY. THANK YOU. ACROSS ALL BUILDINGS. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS, RANDY? THANK YOU. UH, STREET PARKING MM-HMM . IS IT STREET PARKING OR IS THERE CUTBACKS ALONG [00:25:01] THE STREET? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY CUTBACKS? WELL, WE DON'T ALLOW PARKING ON THE STREET IN ADDISON. DO YOU MEAN PARKING ALONG THE STREET TO WHERE THERE'S A THERE IS A DEDICATED PARKING MM-HMM . CUT OUT IN, INTO IT? YES. OKAY. YEAH, THERE ARE DEDICATED PARKING SPACES, UM, AND THE, THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE MOVED OUT OF THE, UM, TR PATH OF TR PATH OF TRAVEL. THAT'S, THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAD. I SHOULD HAVE USED A BETTER WORD THAN THAT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND WHAT, HOW MANY LANES OF TRAFFIC ARE THOSE? ROADS SHOULD BE TWO. UM, BUT I BELIEVE, UH, THAT THE ROAD, THE ROAD PATHWAY WILL BE, UM, FINALIZED IN THE CIVILS. UH, HOWEVER, UM, UH, PUBLIC WORKS MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. OKAY. UM, TO THE STUCCO TO MASONRY, UM, QUESTION, STUCCO HAS A TREMENDOUS ISSUE IN THIS AREA WITH LONGEVITY. UM, I THINK IF WE ALLOW MORE STUCCO, UH, WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR DETERIORATION OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX FASTER THAN OTHER MASONRY, STUCCO IS NOT CONSIDERED MASONRY. AND, UM, WITH THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE WITH STUCCO, PARTICULARLY IN THIS AREA, THAT IS ONLY LEADING TO FASTER DETERIORATION, UH, OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, THAT, THAT WE HAVE ISSUES WITH DETERIORATION OVERALL ANYWAY. SO THAT, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME TO LOWER OUR STANDARDS TO LET THAT BUILDING DETERIORATE FASTER. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. VERY GOOD ONE. THANKS, BILL. UM, SO IS THERE ANY, UM, IMPACT ON OUR RESOURCES IN TERMS OF, I PROBABLY WANT TO ASK, UM, CHIEF, UM, WITH BRINGING THESE DEPARTMENTS ON, WOULD THERE BE ANY IMPACT TO WHAT WE NEED TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE? UM, HER, HER CHIEF COMES, YEAH, CHIEF WILL NEED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CHRIS, FREE CHIEF OF POLICE, UH, WAS THE QUESTION, UH, WITH NEW APARTMENTS THAT GONNA IMPACT OUR DAY-TO-DAY SERVICES, UH, WE ACCOUNT FOR THAT. UM, JUST AS WE'VE HAD WITH PREVIOUS MEETINGS. UM, WE WORK TO LOOK AT POPULATION DENSITY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALLOCATING THE RESOURCES WE HAVE APPROPRIATELY. YES, MA'AM. SO DID WE AGREE TO, UH, SPEAKING ON WHAT RANDY'S TOPIC WAS ON THE STUCCO AND THE MASONRY, UM, MASONRY WAS, WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN THAT WE AGREED TO? AND WHY IS IT GOING TO, TO STUCCO? UM, THE 2007 PD ORDINANCE DID NOT INCLUDE STUCCO AS A MASONRY CONSTRUCTION, HOWEVER, IT DID, UH, ENLIST IT AS AN ACCENT ONE, UM, AS AN ACCENT. HOWEVER, THE AMOUNT OF STUCCO IS, UH, MORE IN THIS PROPOSAL THAN WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED THE ACCENT. HOW MUCH MORE? UH, I'D HAVE TO DO THE MATH. YEAH. I CAN COME BACK 5% OR 2% OR 50. UM, I CAN COME BACK WITH THAT. I BELIEVE THE PD, UM, SPECIFICALLY SAID FOR STREETS THAT ARE NOT FACING THE, UM, UH, RIGHT OF WAY. SO FOR THIS, THAT WOULD ONLY COUNT ON ONE, TWO ELEVATIONS OF, UM, ANY GIVEN SIDE OF THE THREE BUILDINGS. SO I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON STUCCO AND HOW WELL IT HOLDS UP. UH, IF THERE IS, IF IT IS A, UH, A LOWER STANDARD THAT THAT IS A CONCERN FOR ME. I'M NOT TOO SURE WHAT MY OTHER COUNCIL FOLKS WERE, THEIR EXPERTISE IS ON THAT. I'M GONNA, YOU KNOW, ASK FOR, UH, UH, STAFF'S, UH, PROFESSIONAL OPINION ON THAT AS FAR AS, UH, ACCEPTING THAT AND, AND WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU RECOMMENDED WAS TO ACCEPT IT. AND I GUESS, IS THAT THE ANSWER TO IT? OKAY. YEAH. UM, THE APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON THE SPECIFIC STUCCO, UH, THAT THEY ARE, UH, PROPOSING. UM, I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT GRADES TO IT. UM, HOWEVER, UM, ARCHITECTURE AND MATERIALS IS A LITTLE BEYOND, UH, MY FULL UNDERSTANDING. SO THE APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO, UM, SPEAK MORE TO THAT. SO ALSO ON THE, UM, UH, THE HISTORY, GO BACK TO THAT HISTORY SLIDE. EXCUSE ME. SO THIS WAS STARTED BACK IN 2007 AND PLANS BEFORE THAT. SO THAT WAS REALLY, UH, A LONG TIME AGO. AND THAT WAS A REALLY BAD TIME FOR HOUSING AND, AND THE ECONOMY AND SUCH. SO IT'S REALLY NEAT TO SEE THIS COME INTO FRUITION, BUT IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS. DO WE HAVE, UM, DO WE HAVE LIKE A WHOLE TIMELINE OR PERFORMANCE, UH, CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION ON ANY OF THIS PROJECT? WAS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED FIVE YEARS FROM NOW OR FIVE YEARS AGO? OR IS THERE ANY OF THAT? UH, BUILT IN TO ANY INCENTIVES THAT WE HAVE? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY INCENTIVES FOR THIS PROJECT. [00:30:01] UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MAY HAVE MORE, UM, INFORMATION ON THAT. UH, BUT ALSO THE APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO TALK MORE TO, UH, THE INTENT ON THE BUILD OUT, UM, AS FAR AS IT GOES FOR THEIR ENTIRE PROPERTY. MORE SPECIFICALLY ON, ON THE PERFORMANCE. SO THIS IS A WHOLE BUNCH OF APARTMENTS OVER THERE, HIGH DENSITY OF PEOPLE, AND THERE'S NOT A LOT TO DO OVER THERE NECESSARILY. LIKE OVER IN THE CIRCLE THERE'S A LOT TO DO AROUND THE CIRCLE. SO IT MAKES IT A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE. THE BLOCK BELOW, UH, BELOW WHAT'S LABELED AS 2013, UH, THAT'S, UH, BLOCKS 2000 202 0 4, 2 0 5 9 AND 10. UM, WHEN ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT OUT? THAT'S THE EMPTY REDEVELOPMENT RETAIL OFFICE, OTHER AMENITY STUFF. 'CAUSE IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VITRUVIAN, UDR IS DEVELOPING ALL THE APARTMENTS BECAUSE THAT'S A HIGHER INCOME, BUT NOT DOING THE OTHER PART OF IT. AND I WONDER IF WE HAD ANY STIPULATIONS THAT MAYBE, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE MISSED ALONG THE WAY, UH, OUTSIDE. SO THAT WOULD, UH, NOT APPLY FOR THE REQUEST THAT'S HERE TONIGHT, HOWEVER, THAT APPLICANT, UM, SHOULD BE ABLE TO DISCUSS ANY FUTURE PLANS THAT THEY MAY HAVE FOR THE REMAINDER PORTIONS OF VITRUVIAN. BUT THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE, UM, APPLICATION, UM, UH, AND FOR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. YEAH. AND DARREN, JUST AS A COM AS A COMMENT, I REMEMBER WHEN THIS WENT THROUGH MM-HMM . UH, YOU, THIS WAS, THIS WAS THIS A HUNDRED ACRE REDEVELOPMENT, RIGHT. SO IT WAS, UH, A LOT OF IT WAS SOMEWHAT CONCEPTUAL AND, AND THEY KNEW THAT IT WAS A REALLY LONG TERM PROJECT, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT KNOWING WHAT THE ECONOMY WAS GONNA DO AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THERE WERE A LOT OF VARIABLES TO IT. SO, UM, WHEN, WHEN THAT WENT THROUGH, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN 2013, I SUPPOSE. UM, IT WAS, UM, IT WAS A VERY DIFFERENT TIME, YOU KNOW. RIGHT. WE'VE HAD A LOT IN BETWEEN FOR SURE. YEAH. JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT THAT WE MIGHT WANNA, UM, CONSIDER THAT FOR, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE FUTURE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS OVER THERE AS WELL, UH, TO GET THOSE OTHER THINGS ONLINE, TO HAVE MORE OF A COMMUNITY OVER THERE OF, OF NOT JUST HOUSING, BUT OTHER, OTHER THINGS THAT MAKE IT A, YOU KNOW, WALKABLE AND, AND LIFE QUALITY. THAT'S JUST COMMENTS. YEAH. DAN, THANK YOU COREY. AND MAYBE WE'LL HAVE TO GET AN ANSWER ON THIS. SO WERE THERE PRIOR PD EXCEPTIONS AS THE ONES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION? MEANING ARE WE SETTING A STANDARD THAT WE'RE ACCEPTING THIS NOW AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL BLOCKS COME ALONG AND POTENTIALLY WHEN I'M OFF COUNSEL OR THAT THE THING FLIPS OVER, WE COULD BE LOOKING AT NEW FUTURE EXCEPTIONS INSTEAD OF FOLLOWING THE RULE? UH, THE WAIVER FOR THE STUCCO ACCOUNT AS MASONRY RECONSTRUCTION, THAT ONE HAS BEEN APPROVED PREVIOUSLY. UH, MOST RECENTLY WOULD BE VITRUVIAN WEST AND THE VILLAS OF FIORA, UM, THE TOWN HOMES. UM, BOTH OF THOSE ALSO RECEIVED THE SAME, UH, TYPE OF WAIVER, WAIVER FOR STUCCO. UM, THEN THE OTHER TWO WAIVERS, UH, THESE ARE REALLY SITE SPECIFIC, UM, TO THIS PARTICULAR SITE. SO THE PARKING GARAGE, UM, IT, THEY TRIED TO, SO JUST SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY IS A, UM, SUBSTATION AND YOU CAN SEE IT ON POSSIBLY ON THE AERIAL? YEAH. UH, NOPE, I COVERED IT UP. UM, , THERE'S A SUBSTATION JUST TO THE SOUTH, AND, UM, THE PROPOSAL WAS TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT ARE DIRECTLY FACING THAT SUBSTATION. UM, SO THE PROPO THEN THE DESIGN WAS TO MOVE THE PARKING GARAGE SO THAT IT IS THEN THE LARGEST PART, UM, OF TAKING THE, THE FRONTAGE OF THAT SUBSTATION. SO THAT'S, THAT ONE'S REALLY SITE SPECIFIC. AND THEN THE, UM, THE AMENITY BUILDING ONE, UM, IS ALSO SITE SPECIFIC, BUT IT DOES ENCOURAGE, UH, PEDESTRIAN GATHERING SPACES AND OTHER TYPES OF, UM, FRONTAGE CAN, UM, NOT FRONTAGE, UM, ITEMS CAN HAPPEN IN THAT PLAZA VERSUS POTENTIALLY CAUSING, UM, AN AREA THAT MIGHT HAVE ACCIDENTS IF WE WERE TO HAVE TO BRING THE BUILDING ALL THE WAY TO THE FRONT. UM, 'CAUSE IT DOES CREATE THAT LINE OF SIGHT, UM, TO BE A LITTLE BIT SAFER. SO. OKAY. SO THAT, THAT'S THE CONSIDERATION ON THE AMENITY BUILDING. I MM-HMM . COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. BUT IN TERMS OF FOLLOWING THE PARKING GARAGE, THAT EXPLANATION HELPS ME UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE 47 FEET OVER. YEAH. AND THEN THE MASONRY CONVERSATION FROM STUCCO. SO LOOKING BACK AT THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT ARE USING STUCCO, AND IN A HYPOTHETICAL, AND MAYBE THEY CAN ANSWER THIS, IF THEY SEE, UM, SETTLING IN CRACKS IN THE, IN THE, NOT THE FOUNDATIONS, BUT WITHIN THE STUCCO WORK ITSELF, AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN WARRANTIES, I'M ASSUMING, OR THEIR OWN, [00:35:01] BUT ARE THEY FALLING OUT OF CODE COMPLIANCE IF THIS BECOMES AN EYESORE TO THE RESIDENTS AS MUCH AS THE COMMUNITY ITSELF? LESLIE KNIGHT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES? UM, SO AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED A SIGNIFICANT DETERIORATION OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, AS COREY MENTIONED. UM, I BELIEVE ALMOST ALL OF THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT, UM, POST THIS 2007 PD, UM, THAT IS CURRENTLY APPLIED, HAVE RECEIVED SOME SORT OF, UH, WAIVER TO THE STUCCO, UM, TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, COLOR TO THAT STANDARD. SO WHEN YOU'RE USING MASONRY, THE, UM, THE MATERIAL WEIGHS A LOT. AND SO YOU TYPICALLY HAVE TO HAVE A VERY FLAT FACADE. AND IN SOME, UM, INDIVIDUALS COULD SEE THAT AS MAYBE, UM, BORING DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF ARTICULATION, UM, OR INTEREST TO THE EYE. AND SO WHEN YOU USE STUCCO, IT ALLOWS THE MORE PROTRUSIONS OR, UM, FOR OF THE BUILDING AND MAKES THE BUILDING LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE INTERESTING TO THE EYE. SO THAT'S IN A LOT OF CASES WHY THEY USE THAT MATERIAL 'CAUSE IT'S LIGHTER. UM, AND YOU CAN DO THOSE UNIQUE THINGS WITH THE BUILDING AS OPPOSED TO HAVING KIND OF A FLAT WALL THAT'S MORE GEARED TOWARDS MASONRY. UM, SO YEAH, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE HAVEN'T REALLY EXPERIENCED ANY, UM, SIGNIFICANT DETERIORATION ISSUES. AND ALMOST ALL OF THE, THE NEW BUILDINGS POST, UH, THE 2007 PD HAVE USED A, A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MASONRY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING PROPOSED THIS EVENING, UM, ON THEIR BUILDINGS. OKAY. SO EVEN TAKING UDR OUTTA THE EQUATION, JUST OTHER PROPERTIES, OTHER SIMILAR BUILDING TYPES IN ADDISON, WE DON'T HAVE ISSUES WITH STUCCO AROUND TOWN PER SE, THAT WE'RE CODE COMPLIANCE. UH, NOT NECESSARILY. AND I DO ALSO WANNA, UM, SPECIFY THAT, UM, THERE'S A MATERIAL CALLED EFIS THAT'S COMMONLY REFERRED TO A STUCCO THAT IS NOT TRU STUCCO. UM, TRU STUCCO IS A HAND APPLIED, USUALLY A MULTI COAT SYSTEM. AND SO EFIS, UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW, IS, I DON'T THINK IT'S AS, UM, PREVALENT HERE IN ADDISON. UM, BUT IN PRIOR STUDIES I'VE WORKED IN, THAT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE WITH THE EFIS DETERIORATING VERY, VERY QUICKLY. UM, TRUS STUCCO DOES HOLD UP A SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THOSE EXPLANATIONS. THAT HELPS A LOT. OF COURSE. WELL, YEAH. HEY, LESLIE, WHILE YOU'RE, WHILE YOU'RE THERE, I WANT TO ASK YOU THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, HEIGHT QUESTION ON THE PREVIOUS PD, WERE THERE PARTICULAR, UH, HEIGHT MINIMUMS OR HEIGHT THERE? THERE IS NOT NO SPEC AND THE PD, UH, THE, AS WELL AS THE PD HAS NO MAXIMUM HEIGHT. SO NO MINIMUM, NO MAXIMUM, NO. THE HEIGHT IS UNLIMITED. UM, WITH SOME, UM, LIKE ADJACENCY HEIGHT CONSIDERATIONS IF IT'S NEXT TO, UH, ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY, FOR EXAMPLE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU LESLIE. THANK YOU, COREY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. ERIC, IF WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER, CAN WE DO THAT? HAVE WE MISSED THAT OPPORTUNITY? SURE. OKAY. WELL, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. IF YOU WOULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD TOO. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ROB ST. JOHN ADDRESS, 35 46 SOUTH OGDEN STREET, INGLEWOOD, COLORADO. I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE AND SPEAK ON THE PROJECT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE. UH, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF AT TRIVIA PARK OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS, AND DURING THAT TIME, MY ADMIRATION FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON HAS ONLY GROWN. AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE TOWN OF ADDISON DESERVES EXCEPTIONAL PROJECTS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD HERE, IS A COMMUNITY THAT FUTURE RESIDENTS WILL BE PROUD TO CALL HOME. AS IT RELATES TO THE STUCCO, THIS IS A TRUE THREE COAT STUCCO SYSTEM AND WITH NEW, UH, CODE REQUIREMENTS TODAY, THE WATERPROOFING STANDARDS ARE ALSO MORE ENHANCED AND MORE STRINGENT. FURY IN PARTICULAR, WHICH WASN'T HIGHLIGHTED ON THE MASONRY WAIVER DISCUSSION, BUT THAT, THAT BUILDING ALSO RECEIVED THAT WAIVER MODIFICATION. AND I THINK I DROVE BY IT RIGHT BEFORE, UM, I CAME OVER HERE AND I THINK THE BUILDING TODAY STILL LOOKS GREAT. IT WAS BUILT IN 2013 AND ACTUALLY THAT, THAT WOOD TONE PRODUCT IS SHOWS REALLY WELL AS AN ACCENT MATERIAL, AND THAT'S A SIMILAR TYPE OF MATERIAL THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THESE FACADE ELEVATIONS AND THE PROJECT AS WELL. THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTION? HEY, ROB, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. UM, SO, UM, ON FRE, UM, SO THEY'VE GOT, DID THEY [00:40:01] HAVE THE THREE COAT STUCCO SYSTEM? YES. OR DO YOU KNOW WHAT, OKAY. AND AS FAR AS PERCENTAGES GO, DO YOU HAVE ANY JUST ROUGHLY ANY IDEA, LIKE THE STUCCO ON THAT PERCENTAGE BY SIMILAR TYPE OF CALCULATION? IT WOULD PROBABLY BE, BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER. I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO THAT 60%. OKAY. THERE'S QUITE A BIT. SO THERE, THERE IS, UH, A BRICK MASONRY AT THE GROUND LEVEL, UH, BUT THE BULK OF THAT IS THE BUILDING FACADE IS STUCCO, AND THEN THERE'S A, A REALLY NICE WOOD TONE, ACCENT MATERIAL TO COMPLIMENT IT. AND I WOULD SAY THAT RELATED TO ALL OF THESE WAIVERS, UH, SO OUR ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT IS GFF, WHO IS ALSO THE ARCHITECT FOR FURY ON VITRUVIAN PARK. AND WE REALLY VIEW THE, THE STUCCO AS A COMPLIMENTARY MATERIAL. UM, SO WHERE WE DO HAVE THE STONE, UM, UH, LIME VENEER STONE ON THE BUILDING, AND IT CREATES ALMOST LIKE A POP OUT EFFECT THAT STUCCO IS REALLY, UM, IN OUR MINDS MORE COMPLIMENTARY, MORE THAN EVERYTHING TO HELP THAT STONE STAND OUT MORE PROUDLY. AND, UM, UH, RELATED TO, UH, THE OTHER TWO WAIVERS, LIKE COREY MENTIONED, THE, THE, THE PARKING GARAGE IS REALLY DRIVEN BY THAT ENCORE SUBSTATION. AND WE, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A, A A, IT'S GONNA MITIGATE NOISE AS WELL. IT'S JUST BE A BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR RESIDENTS. SO YOU'RE NOT LINING THAT GARAGE WITH UNITS THAT ARE GONNA BE STARING DIRECTLY AT A REALLY LARGE SUBSTATION. AND, AND SIMILARLY, WHILE THAT AMENITY BUILDING COULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SHIFT THAT BUILDING OUT ONE OF THE, THE THEMES THAT IT MAY NOT BE OVERLY EVIDENT, UM, GIVEN THE 2D NATURE OF THE, OF THE PLANS, BUT THERE'S A TON OF, OF CURVATURE AT VI TRIVIAN PARK IN GENERAL WHEN YOU'RE WALKING AROUND. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THEMES WE REALLY WANTED TO LEAN INTO. AND SO HAVING A THREE STORY AMENITY BUILDING THAT, THAT CURVES WITH THE PARK AS WELL AS THE CURVATURE IN THE POOL, IS A THEME THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO, UM, EXPRESS IN THE DESIGN. 'CAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD REALLY BE COMPLIMENTARY ARCHITECTURE. OKAY. AND, AND SO, UM, CAN YOU SPEAK TO, UH, YOU, YOU ALREADY SPOKE TO FIORI WITH A STUCCO, UH, SITUATION. UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SAVOY AND SAVOY SQUARED AND WHAT, WHAT KIND OF MATERIAL, UH, THOSE BUILDINGS ARE MADE OF? SURE. SO THOSE SAVOY AND SAVOY SQUARED, UH, SIMILAR MATERIALITY, BUT A LOWER STUCCO PERCENTAGE COMPARED TO FRE. AND SO I DO NOT BELIEVE WE PURSUED THAT WAIVER IN PARTICULAR AT THE SAVOYS KIND OF UNIQUE BUILDING TOO. IT'S KIND OF A HYBRID, THE WHERE THE, THE RETAIL AND OFFICE EXISTS, THAT'S ACTUALLY A TYPE ONE STRUCTURE. AND THEN THERE'S A FIVE STORY WOOD FRAME KIND OF SURROUNDING IT. UM, BUT IN TERMS OF THE, THE WOOD FRAME, UH, WRAP PORTIONS OF THE PROJECTS, THEY'RE SIMILAR IN TERMS OF MATERIALITY AS THIS PROJECT, BUT THE COLORS ARE, ARE, ARE MUCH DIFFERENT. YEAH. THANK YOU BEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ROB, FOR BEING HERE AND ANSWERING QUESTIONS. SO TO DARREN GARDNER'S POINT, UM, THE, THE 200 BLOCKS, IF WE WERE LOOKING AT WHAT TOM THUMB HAS INVESTED IN THAT DEVELOPMENT, THAT BROOKHAVEN VILLAGE MM-HMM . WHEN, WHEN DO YOU FORESEE, AND OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF OFFICE IS LISTED IN THESE BLOCKS MM-HMM . WHICH WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH OFFICE IS NOT AS VIABLE AS RETAIL. MM-HMM . HAS THE, HAS THE MAIN PLAYBOOK CHANGED? ARE YOU LEAVING IT JUST AS IS SORT OF A SPLIT RETAIL AND OFFICE? AND WHEN WILL THAT START? SURE. GREAT QUESTION AND, AND A DIFFICULT ONE FOR ME TO GIVE YOU A PERFECT RESPONSE TO. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT BROOKHAVEN VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER, WE RENOVATED THAT SHOPPING CENTER IN 2018. SO THE TOP THUMB IS ROUGHLY 60,000, 62,000 SQUARE FEET. UM, THAT GROCERY STORE, WE RENOVATED THE ENTIRE EXTERIOR OF IT. WE BUILT A 17,000 SQUARE FOOT, UM, NEW SPEC RETAIL SPACE DIRECTLY NORTH AND THEN THREE PAD SITES. THAT WAS IN 2018. AND IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY, I'LL SAY, CHALLENGING TO LEASE THOSE PAD SITES. UM, HAPPY TO SAY THAT THAT 17,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IS, IS PRETTY MUCH FULLY OCCUPIED. IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, SERVICE TYPE TENANTS THAT EXIST THERE. AND I THINK THERE'S A, IS A LOT OF DEMAND FOR THAT. YOU'RE SEEING THAT WITH THE CITY DOG AT THE SAVOY. UH, AND SO THOSE PET SITES HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT BLOCKS 2 0 4 AND TWO 10 AND THE FOOTPRINT OF THOSE BUILDINGS AND THE, THE DENSITY ALLOWED, WHAT THAT'S REALLY CONTEMPLATING ARE HIGH-RISE OFFICE BUILDINGS. AND WHILE WE WOULD LOVE TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO BUILD AN OFFICE BUILDING IF WE, IF WE COULD PRE-LEASE THAT, THAT BUILDING. AND, AND RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT OFFICE VACANCY IN THE MARKET AND WHERE OFFICE BUILDINGS ARE PREDOMINANTLY LOCATED ALONG THE TOLLWAY FOR HIGH VISIBILITY, INTERSTATE ACCESS, I THINK OFFICE WOULD BE REALLY CHALLENGING THERE TODAY. UM, I DO THINK THAT A PORTION OF RETAIL COULD WORK WELL THERE. IT IT, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST BLOCK 2 0 4 AND TWO 10, BUT REALLY, UM, ALL OF ADDISON APARTMENTS AT THE PARK AND THE, THOSE [00:45:01] FUTURE BLOCKS THERE, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE HAVE BUILT A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY, BUT IT IS AN AREA OF FOCUS FOR US RIGHT NOW AND THINKING ABOUT COMPLIMENTARY USES AND, AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP CREATE THAT CATALYST? AND SO WE WE'RE STARTING TO EXPLORE OTHER USES. I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR SALE IS A TOPIC AS WELL. UM, RETAIL AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET CREATIVE. UM, I DO THINK OFFICE HIGHRISE WOULD BE DIFFICULT. OKAY. SO, SO JUST ON A PERFECT SANTA'S WISHLIST FOR ME, IF THERE'S EVER CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE BOARD TO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE, UM, FULLY SENIOR ASSISTED LIVING, I THINK THAT COULD BE A GREAT USE. YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST THING ON MY SANTA WISHLIST. THE SECOND WOULD BE CONDOS. MM-HMM . AND THEN THE THIRD WOULD BE ADDITIONAL TOWN HOMES FOR SALE. NOT FOR, NOT FOR RENT OR LEASE, BUT FOR SALE. SO MORE FOR SALE BY OWNER TYPE OF PRODUCTS IN THOSE BLOCKS IF OFFICE IS GONNA GO AWAY. THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT. SURE. ALRIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR, FOR COMING. APPRECIATE THAT. AND UH, SO WE'VE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING AND SO I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION LOOKING FOR THE ITEM FIVE A OF A, A MOTION TO APPROVE FIVE A WITH THE WAIVER REQUESTS SUGGESTED BY THE STAFF ON THE SLIDE. ALRIGHT. SO FIVE A, UH, SUBMITTED. VERY GOOD. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE MOTION OR SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. I HAVE A DISCUSSION, A LITTLE DISCUSSION IF WE DISCUSSION. SURE. I JUST, UM, THE PROBLEM I'M HAVING IS, UM, IS WAIVING THE, THE MINIMUM STUCCO REQUIREMENT AND CALLING IT MASONRY. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A STRUGGLE I'M HAVING, UM, WITH THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. OKAY. OF THE DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT'S EXPLANATION OF THE STUCCO AND THE PRECEDENTS THAT THE ALREADY SET, UH, WITH FRE APARTMENT, UH, FRE TOWN HOMES, FRE TOWER, AND THE OTHER ONES, UH, FOR TRIBUNE WEST. UM, AND IT'S NOT THIS OTHER SORT OF STUCCO LIKE MATERIAL. I'M, I'M MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT NOW. UM, AND I JUST WOULD QUESTION, UH, WELL WHAT, WHAT'S ANYBODY ELSE'S OPPOSITION FOR THEM TO SPEAK UP HERE? AND ALSO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PLANNED FOR OVER 20 YEARS JUST IN CASE WE FORGOT THAT AND APPROVED FOR 20 YEARS. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU DARREN. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. YOU OPPOSED? A AYE. ALL RIGHT, SO WE DON'T HAVE APPROVAL. WE HAVE A TIE MOTION BILLS. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THAT ONE DOES. I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL, UH, A PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL MASONRY. IS THAT SOMETHING APPROPRIATE? IT'S ALREADY FAILED. YEAH. MOTION FAILED. YEAH. THE MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, WITH, AS PRESENTED WITH THE THREE WAIVERS BY STAFF, UH, DID FAIL WITH A THREE THREE TIE. ANOTHER MOTION IS APPROPRIATE OR ANY OTHER ACTION CAN BE TAKEN. BUT THAT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL. ANOTHER MOTION IS APPROPRIATE. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? IF THERE'S A, IF THERE'S A NEW MOTION ON A NEW, NEW PROPOSAL. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A NEW MOTION, DARREN? I DO HAVE A NEW MOTION. I I I DON'T REALLY WANNA PULL IT OUT OF THE AIR NECESSARILY. UM, SO IF WE DENY, UH, IT'S DENIED KEN, UH, WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF OF THE APPLICANT COMING BACK WITH A DIFFERENT UH, FACADE? DO THEY HAVE TO WAIT A PERIOD OF TIME? DO THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT A WHOLE NEW REQUEST? THE, UM, THE COUNSEL HAS A COUPLE OPTIONS. ONE OF THE OPTIONS COULD BE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH DIRECTION TO THE APPLICANT TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS THIS COUNSEL MAY REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT. UM, ANOTHER OPTION IS CERTAINLY TO, UM, IF IT'S GOING TO BE DENIED, DENY IT WITH WITHOUT PREJUDICE FOR IT TO COME BACK. UM, MAYBE WITH MODIFICATIONS OR AS PRESENTED. BUT, UM, OKAY. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY, UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, WITH PREJUDICE SO THAT THEY CAN COME BACK IF THAT'S THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY WITHOUT PREJUDICE TO REFILING THIS YEAH. TO REFILE WITHOUT PREJUDICE, HOW CAN WE TABLE SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY DENIED DIFFERENT MOTION THERE. THERE'S NOT BEEN [00:50:01] A MOTION. A MOTION TO BEGIN WITH. THERE WAS NOT A MOTION TO DENY THOUGH, WHIT. CAN YOU WAIT? THE, THE VOTE FAILED BUT IT WAS, THE MOTION WAS TO APPROVE. AND THIS IS A MOTION TO DENY. IS THAT THE DIFFERENCE? THAT'S CORRECT. WHIT, WHIT CAN ASK YOU A LEGAL QUESTION. UM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S HOLDING THAT WOULD BE HOLDING THE APPLICANT BACK IN THE FUTURE WITH BRINGING SOMETHING LIKE THIS BACK WITHOUT THE VARIOUS, ALL THE VARIOUS WAIVERS OR SOME OF THE, A FEW LESS WAIVERS? UM, I, AND I WOULD CERTAINLY RELY ON STAFF TO PROVIDE ANY CLARITY, BUT I THINK JUST IN THE MOTION IF, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AND LET THEM COME BACK. I DO NOT KNOW, UH, IF ANY OF THESE WAIVERS TRIGGER, UH, A WAITING PERIOD. AND STAFF DO YOU THAT THEY DO NOT. OKAY. SO STAFF'S TELLING ME THEY DO NOT. SO WHETHER OR NOT WE, WE DO NOT NEED TO TAKE ACTION TO WAIVE ANY SORT OF WAITING PERIOD. SO YES, THEY CAN REAPPLY, BRING A NEW PROPOSAL BACK OR A MODIFIED PROPOSAL TO YOU AT ANY TIME AS A STATE. OKAY. OKAY. 'CAUSE IT STANDS YES. SO THAT NOT REQUIRED SUPER NEXT TIME. OKAY. CORRECT. WOULD IT REQUIRE SUPER MAJORITY NEXT TIME TO PASS? NO, IT WOULD BE THE SAME STANDARD. OKAY. SO I HAD A MOTION. I'LL RETRACT THAT MOTION. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT, MOVING ON [a. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving an Interlocal Agreement between the Town of Addison and Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART) for Addison Orbit services funding in an amount not to exceed $800,000; authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement; and providing for an effective date.] TO ITEM SIX A PRESENT DISCUSS AND CONSIDERATION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT DART FOR ADDISON ORBIT SERVICES FUNDING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $800,000, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ASHLEY, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ASHLEY SCHROER, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, UM, HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT. WE HAVE BEEN CONTRACTING WITH VIA FOR ADDISON ORBIT SINCE APRIL OF 2026. THAT WAS OUR ATTEMPT TO BE READY IN CASE WE DECIDED TO, THE VOTERS DECIDED TO LEAVE, UM, DART. THEY DID NOT. SINCE THEN, WE HAVE BEEN COLLECTING DATA. WE HAVE BEEN HONING OUR PROGRAM TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE SUCCESSFUL. WE GAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT PROGRAM BACK ON JULY 7TH. AND SINCE THEN WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO DART STAFF AND OUR DART CONTACTS ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE WITH ORBIT AND GOLINK. IF YOU RECALL, UM, DART HAD MONEY SET ASIDE FOR THEIR DART GOLINK. THEIR GOLINK WAS A SIMILAR MICRO TRANSIT SYSTEM THAT USED BOTH, UM, VEHICLES, UH, ASSIGNED VEHICLES AND THEN BACKUP VEHICLES THROUGH EITHER UBER OR LYFT. THROUGH THESE DISCUSSIONS WE ASKED DART, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO EITHER FUND OUR ADDISON ORBIT OR BRING DART GOLINK UP TO THE STANDARD THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR ADDISON ORBIT. UM, IN LIEU OF GOING FORWARD WITH THE GO LINK THAT THEY WERE GONNA BRING FORWARD IN APRIL, DART AGREED THAT THEY WOULD, UH, OFFER THE, SHOULDN'T SAY AGREED, THEY WON'T DO THAT UNTIL THEIR NEXT MEETING, BUT THEY HAVE OFFERED TO FUND THE ONE YEAR AGREEMENT WITH VIA UP TO $800,000, WHICH IS WHAT THEY HAD IN THEIR BUDGET TO PAY FOR GOLINK. DURING THIS TIME. DART HAS ESTABLISHED A GOLINK 2.0 TASK FORCE. UM, ALTHOUGH ADDISON IS NOT ON THE TASK FORCE, WE ARE HAVING A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THEM. WE HAVE BEEN SHARING OUR, OUR VIA INFORMATION WITH THEM ON ADDISON ORBIT, OUR RIDERSHIP, THE THINGS THAT WE LIKE ABOUT IT, THE THINGS THAT WE, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY DON'T LIKE ABOUT GOLINK 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE GOLINK, BUT THE THINGS THAT REALLY ARE PUSHING US TOWARDS ARE ADDISON ORBIT. AND SO SINCE THEN THEY HAVE COME BACK AND OFFERED TO DO THE FUNDING. THEY TOOK IT TO THEIR COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TO TONIGHT, WHICH IS KIND OF THEIR WORK SESSION. UM, IT WILL GO TO THE 27TH, IS THAT RIGHT? 27TH? YES. 27TH DART BOARD MEETING FOR FINAL APPROVAL. PART OF THE AGREEMENT WILL INTEGRATE ADD ADDISON OR ORBIT INTO THE, UH, GO PASS. THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. SO IT'LL GO INTO THE GO PASS APP. WE WILL STILL HAVE OUR ADDISON ORBIT APP. SO THOSE PEOPLE WHO USE IT STRICTLY AS A MICRO TRANSIT TO GET AROUND ADDISON DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE APPS. THOSE WHO USE IT FOR THE REGIONAL, SO THEY'RE CONNECTING TO EITHER A BUS OR THE SILVER LINE OR SOMEWHERE, UH, WITHIN ADDISON CAN USE THE GO PASS APP. ONCE WE, UH, FINALIZE THIS AGREEMENT, ONE OF THE OTHER STIPULATIONS IS THE TOWN WILL RETAIN ANY REVENUE THAT COMES FROM THE ADDISON ORBIT APP, BUT ANYTHING THAT'S DONE THROUGH THE DART GO PASS APP WILL GO TO DART. UM, IT JUST, IT, IT MAKES IT AN EASIER TRANSITION FOR THE RIDER. [00:55:01] IT ALSO WOULD ALLOW RIDERS TO CONNECT TO DART FACILITIES AND NOT BE CHARGED TWICE. SO THERE WOULD NOT BE A FAIR, IF SOMEBODY WAS COMING INTO ADDISON, LET'S SAY ON THE SILVER LINE, THEY WANTED TO GO EAT AT VOP, THEY COULD THEN TAKE AN ORBIT AS PART OF THEIR DART PASS AND GO EAT AT VOP. UH, SAME AS IF THEY WERE GONNA CONNECT THE OTHER WAY. UM, IN COLLABORATION WITH, UH, DART, WE WILL CONTINUE TO SHARE THE METRICS OF HOW ADDISON ORBIT IS GOING. I WILL TELL YOU THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS, UM, I KIND OF STEPPED OUT AND LISTENED TO THEIR COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WAS THEY REALLY ATTRIBUTED OUR OWN CITIZENS FOR HOW WELL ADDISON ORBIT IS WORKING. UM, AND HOW JUST THE WORD OF MOUTH ALONE IS WHAT IS REALLY CONTRIBUTING TO HOW WELL ORBIT HAS, UH, HAS INCREASED THEIR RIDERSHIP. SO THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO WATCH THOSE NUMBERS. THEY DID ASK IF WE WOULD SHARE OUR RIDERSHIP NUMBERS SO THAT THEY CAN PUT IT ON THEIR DART DASHBOARD. DART IS TRYING TO PUBLISH MORE INFORMATION AS FAR AS RIDERSHIP. UM, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. THAT IS, IT'S INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE READILY AVAILABLE THAT GIVES THE NUMBER OF RIDERS WE HAVE EVERY WEEK, NEW RIDERS, UNIQUE WRITERS. UM, SO WE DON'T MIND SHARING THAT. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL, UM, RECOMMENDING APPROVING THIS ORDINANCE, WE WILL COME BACK. OUR ACTUAL CONTRACT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW EXPIRES OCTOBER 27TH, 22ND. I'M SORRY. SECOND. WE CAN DO A ADMINISTRATIVE EXTENSION FOR THE AMOUNT THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED BY COUNCIL. SO NO ADDITIONAL MONEY. AND THEN STAFF WILL BRING BACK AN ITEM ON THE NOVEMBER 3RD WORK SESSION TO TALK ABOUT THE CONTRACT, UM, MOVING FORWARD AND WHAT THAT CONTRACT EXTENSION LOOKS LIKE, AND THEN HAVE THE ACTUAL CONTRACT ON THE NOVEMBER 10TH MEETING. YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING ? UH, NO, I JUST WANTED TO ADD BEFORE DISCUSSION AND JUST, UM, COMPLIMENT DART AND THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD WITH DARDO OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS. THIS BEING A LARGE PART OF THAT AND THE OTHER DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD HAVE BEEN GREAT. THEY'VE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS. THEY'VE REALLY TAKEN AN OPEN MIND TO THIS. AND, UM, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT MICROT TRANSIT THROUGHOUT THEIR SYSTEM AND REALLY LEANING ON THIS IN, IN HOW THEY EVALUATE THAT IS A CREDIT TO THEM. SO JUST DO WANT TO COMPLIMENT THEM AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DISCUSSION. YES. THANK YOU. DAVID, ANYTHING ELSE? YOU READY FOR QUESTIONS? YEAH, I'M READY FOR QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. AND DAN OR RANDY, WE LOOK ALIKE. , THANK YOU. UH, SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND, AND YOU DID ANSWER MY VERY FIRST ABOUT THE REVENUE FROM, FROM ORBIT STILL COMING TO ADDISON AND THEN YOU EXPANDED IT ONLY IF THEY BOOKED THROUGH THE APP. CAN WE EXPAND OUR ORBIT APP TO INCLUDE THE SILVER LINE? IF I'M, IF I'M THE SILVER, IF I'M TAKING THE SILVER LINE FROM THE AIRPORT BACK TO ADDISON MM-HMM . I GET ON THE GOLD LINK, I USE, I'M, UH, GO PASS. I APOLOGIZE TO GET TO THERE AND THE RIDE FROM NOLL TRAIL IS STILL COMPLIMENTARY. THERE'S NO FAIR CHARGE FROM THE NOLL TRAIL. BUT IF, IF WE THEY GET OFF SOMEWHERE ELSE, CAN WE EXPAND THAT THE ORBIT APP TO INCLUDE THE SILVER LINE FOR ME TO BOOK THROUGH THE ORBIT APP RATHER THAN HAVE TO BOOK THROUGH THE ORBIT APP TO GET TO THE STATION AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE THREE HOUR PASS OR WHATEVER. SURE. YOU KNOW, GO PASS. DOES YOU GET A THREE HOURS TO, TO USE THAT? CAN WE EXPAND THAT? IT WOULD BE MORE DIFFICULT TO DO IT THROUGH THE ORBIT APP THAN DOING IT THROUGH THE GO PASS APP. UM, AND IT'S ALL WAY ABOVE MY HEAD. IT'S ALL IN THE TECHNICAL JARGON OF HOW ALL THAT WORKS AND HOW IT'S ALL PUT IN. UM, SO I, MY ASSUMPTION WOULD BE NO, THEY WOULD WANT US TO CONTINUE WITH THE GO PASS APP, UM, AND THEN YOU COULD BOOK YOUR ENTIRE FARE UNDER THE ONE PRICE. SO LET'S SAY YOU ARE GOING, COMING BACK FROM THE AIRPORT, SO IF YOU USE THE GO PASS APP AND YOU GET THE, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE THE THREE HOUR PASS, THAT'S HOW MUCH EFFORT IT IS THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE YOUR SILVER LINE FARE AND YOUR ORBIT FARE. YOU WON'T BE CHARGED TWICE. ADDISON JUST WON'T GET ANY PIECE OF THAT. CORRECT? I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY OF CORRECT. ADDISON BEING RIGHT REWARDED FOR SUCH A GOOD PROJECT AND, AND I I'M RIGHT WITH DAVID IN COMPLIMENTING DART ON SEEING THE VALUE OF THIS AND THANK THEM FOR, FOR EXPANDING THIS SERVICE. AND YOU DID MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT [01:00:01] THE GOLINK LEVEL OF SERVICE. MM-HMM . HOW MUCH CONTROL WILL THE TOWN OF ADDISON HAVE OVER, UH, DART WHEN IT COMES TO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WITH ORBIT? CAN THEY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CARS OR THEY CAN'T? NO. UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT THE AGREEMENT SAYS IS IT'S OUR CONTRACT AND WE ARE IN CONTROL OF THAT CONTRACT. THEY ARE GONNA REIMBURSE US ON A MONTHLY BASIS UP TO THE ANNUAL $800,000 A YEAR, BUT IT'S ULTIMATELY OUR CONTRACT. OKAY. THEY WON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT. WE WILL JUST SEND THEM OUR, WE WILL PAY OUR, OUR ORBIT INVOICE AND THEN WE WILL SEND THEM A COPY OF THE INVOICE WITH WHATEVER THAT THEY NEED AND THEN THEY WILL REIMBURSE US THAT THAT'S THE CURRENT CONTRACT CONTRACT GOING FORWARD. I'M TALKING ABOUT YEAR. WILL WE CONTINUE TO, TO NEGOTIATE OUR OWN CONTRACT AND THEN REIMBURSE THIS 10 YEARS FROM NOW? WELL, FOR RIGHT NOW THIS IS A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT. OKAY. UM, THEY ARE WORKING ON, I WILL TELL YOU, THEY HAVE BEEN PART OF THE GOAL LINK IS OTHER CITIES ARE HEARING AND UNDERSTANDING AND SAYING, HEY, WE REALLY KIND OF WANT SOMETHING THAT'S MORE FOR US TOO. SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, BUT I WILL TELL YOU DART IS LOOKING AT WHAT THESE OPTIONS ARE. IS IT, IS IT TO GET THAT FLEXIBILITY AND THAT SPECIFIC SERVICE EACH CITY NEEDS? IS IT A REIMBURSEMENT, IS IT A, YOU KNOW, DARK CONTINUES TO RUN IT AS THEY DO GOAL LINK, BUT MAYBE WE CAN TWEAK IT. SOME THEY JUST HAVEN'T MADE IT THAT FAR YET. I UNDERSTAND. BUT IT, FOR IT, THIS IS JUST A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT. THIS IS JUST A ONE YEAR. SO IT, IT CONTINUES WITH OUR ORIGINAL, WILL THEY BE EXPANDING THE ORBIT SERVICE AREA OR IS IT STILL A ADDISON SERVICE? NO, THIS IS STILL NOTHING AS FAR, NOTHING WILL CHANGE AS FAR AS OUR SERVICE AREA. UM, OUR, OUR RATE, ANYTHING THAT THE COUNCIL DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY CHANGE, THEY WILL HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT. OKAY, GREAT. I JUST, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT THEY DON'T BRING ORBIT DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF THE GOAL LINK. AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THEY WERE GONNA TRY TO DO ONE GOAL LINK VEHICLE FOR THE ENTIRE TOWN OF ADDISON AND THAT JUST WILL NOT WORK. SO, RIGHT. SO WE WILL HAVE THE CONTRACT AND IT'LL JUST BE A REIMBURSEMENT AND IT'S AT COUNCIL'S DISCRETION. AND I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN SO INVESTED IN THIS FOR SO MANY MONTHS AND I PERSONALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND ALL OF STAFF HAS DONE ON THIS. UH, TO ME IT'S A FABULOUS, UH, SERVICE IF OUR CITIZENS DON'T HAVE TO PAY DOUBLE FOR DART AND ORBIT, IF RIGHT. DART'S WILLING TO COME IN AND, AND REALIZE THE VALUE OF THIS AND, AND TAKE THE FUNDING BRAVO TO THEM AND BRAVO TO THE STAFF. I WOULD JUST EMPHASIZE ONE POINT ASHLEY MADE THAT MAYBE HELPS ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND OTHER QUESTIONS. SO OUR AGREEMENT WITH ORBIT ACTUALLY IS CONCLUDE, OUR ORIGINAL AGREEMENT IS CONCLUDING. SO WE'RE COMING BACK ON NOVEMBER 3RD TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT AGREEMENT LOOKS LIKE, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY FUNDING. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE THO ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT DO WE WANT THE NEXT CONTRACT TO LOOK LIKE. BUT THAT'S ENTIRELY OUR DECISION. WELL, AND THAT'S, THAT WAS WAS MY REASONING WHEN I ASK ABOUT THE CONTRACT, IT, IT IS EXPIRING. SO ARE WE ARE GOING TO NEGOTIATE WITH ORBIT FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR YES. OKAY. SO WE, WE WILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY TIMEFRAME DART WILL BE COMMITTED TO FOR THIS, COMMITTED TO, IS THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR. SO THE NEXT CONTRACT, NOT JUST THE ONE THAT'S ABOUT TO EXPIRE. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, ASHLEY, AND JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR FOR EVERYBODY, UM, OUR, THE TOWN AGREEMENT IS WITH VIA FOR ORBIT, SO NOTHING'S GONNA CHANGE AS FAR AS OUR REPORTING AND SO FORTH, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE THE EVOLUTION OF THAT. WE'RE GONNA, UH, PUT IT ON THE WEB FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THAT. YEAH. IS THAT SOMETHING, OKAY, SO DART COULD SEE IT. ANYBODY COULD SEE IT AT THAT POINT, RIGHT? SO I, I KNOW THAT, UM, WE HAD A PARTICULAR RESIDENT THAT TRACKS HIS CLOSELY, AND HE HAD, HE WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. SO HOPE THAT HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP HELP HIM. BUT, UM, YEAH, NO, I, I'M GLAD THAT DART IS, IS, UM, IS APPROVING OF THIS, AND I THINK WE CREATED SOMETHING PRETTY SPECIAL. AND, UM, AND, UM, I LOVE, I JUST, IT'S LIKE SEEING A ROCK STAR OUT THERE, SO WHEN YOU SEE THAT ADDISON ORBIT I KNOW COME BY, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, IT'S, AND UH, SO, UM, I'M ALL, ALL, ALL FOR IT. GREAT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, DARREN. SO OUR, UM, OUR EXTENSION OF OUR AGREEMENT ENDS IN NOVEMBER. IS THAT RIGHT? SO OUR, OUR AGREEMENT ACTUALLY EXPIRED OCTOBER 1ST, BUT WE DID A 45 DAY EX OCTOBER, OCTOBER 22ND. OKAY. IN OCTOBER 22ND. BUT WE DID A, A SHORT TERM EXTENSION UNTIL WE CAN COME BACK WITH COUNSEL. SO THIS, UM, REIMBURSEMENT FROM DART WOULD BEGIN WITH OUR NEW AGREEMENT, OR IT WOULD BE RETROACTIVE TO WHAT WE'VE SPENT AS A REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME OVERLAP, BUT WE, WE [01:05:01] CAN BRING ALL THOSE DETAILS ON NOVEMBER 3RD WHEN WE COME FORWARD WITH THE AGREEMENT. OKAY. SO, UM, AS WE'RE STARTING THE NEW AGREEMENT, IF WE ONLY HAVE A PORTION OF THE YEAR, 10 MONTHS OF THE YEAR, THEN WE POSSIBLY, UH, WOULD NOT GET THE FULL REIMBURSEMENT, OR WOULD WE BE ABLE TO COUNT WHAT WE'RE ALREADY, UH, SPENDING IN THIS? BECAUSE I'M GONNA, IT'S ONCE, IT ABOUT 80,000 A MONTH, SO IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD AMOUNT. WE, WE ARE GONNA GET THE FULL REIMBURSEMENT BECAUSE IS AN ANNUAL AGREEMENT ON NOVEMBER 3RD. WE ARE GONNA HAVE A CONVER IN, I JUST GET PREPARED FOR THIS. WE ARE GONNA HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL BECAUSE OUR COSTS ARE GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN THIS AMOUNT BECAUSE IT'S SO SUCCESSFUL IF WE KEEP THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE, BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR RIGHTS, BECAUSE WE'RE SUCCESSFUL. SO WE ARE GONNA COME TO COUNCIL WITH SOME FUNDING OPTIONS, SERVICE OPTIONS, THE WHOLE GAMUT. UM, SO WE'LL BE DIGGING INTO THAT QUITE A BIT. ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT THE REIMBURSEMENT. THANKS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS SIT DOWN WITH VIA AND THE NEXT CONTRACT, IS THIS JUST, WHY WOULD WE NOT LOOK AT A MULTI-YEAR CONTRACT TO POTENTIALLY LOWER THOSE COSTS? WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK DART'S NOT PREPARED TO DO A MULTI-YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THIS TASK FORCE. THEY WANNA LOOK AT WHAT THE LINK LOOKS LIKE IN THE FUTURE. SO WITH US NOT KNOWING WHAT THAT FUNDING COULD BE, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR US TO DO A MULTI-YEAR CONTRACT UNLESS WE WERE AT THIS TIME PREPARED TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE READY TO DO THIS WITH OR WITHOUT THE DART FUNDING. I DON'T KNOW THAT COUNCIL'S, MAYBE IT'S A WORK SESSION ITEM IN TERMS OF LOOKING DEEPER INTO IT. ABSOLUTELY. JUST BECAUSE OF THE VALUE AND OBVIOUSLY HAVING PERSONALLY USED THE PRODUCT MYSELF, AND TO RANDY'S POINT ABOUT JUST GETTING MORE WRITERS TO USE THE PRODUCT, BACK TO OUR MARKETING TEAM, MARKETING IT ON OUR FRIDAY NEWS REPORT AND JUST OVERALL ON OUR WEB, ON OUR DIFFERENT WEBPAGE. RIGHT. YEAH. ON FACEBOOK, ON INSTAGRAM, GETTING THE WORD OUT. IT'S ALMOST AS IF WE NEED A, A MAGICAL INFLUENCER TO RIDE IT ONCE AND THEN SHARE THE LOVE AND HAVE PEOPLE COME INTO ADDISON AND LOAD THIS THING UP. SO THIS IS SOME STUFF THAT I'LL GO INTO AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT I, I DO WANNA SAY, SO, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED OFF A LITTLE SLOW 'CAUSE OF HOW WE HA YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALLOWED TO ADVERTISE AND DO EVERYTHING. SO COMING OUT OF THAT, OUR GOAL WAS 700 RIDES A WEEK, AND THAT WAS KIND OF, THAT WAS US. AND VIA, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE? AND IT WAS 700 RIDES A WEEK. WE ARE AT CLOSE TO 900 NOW. SO NOW WE'RE PUSHING, NOW OUR NEXT GOAL IS A THOUSAND RIDES A WEEK. AND SO WE MEET WITH VIA EVERY WEEK. AND IT'S WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO? WHAT'S OUR NEXT GOAL? WHAT'S OUR NEXT GOAL? AND SO FAR, EVERY TIME WE SET A GOAL, WE'RE MEETING IT AND WE'RE MEETING IT FAST. THAT'S FANTASTIC. HAVE WE HAD A SURVEY OUT TO THE PUBLIC OF THE, THE PERCENTAGE OF RIDERS WITH ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SEE IMPROVED WITHIN THE EXPERIENCE? YEAH, SO THAT, THAT WILL BE SOME THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE ALSO. SO WE HAVE THE SURVEY THAT'S THROUGH THE APP. WE ACTUALLY GET REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK THROUGH THE APP. UM, AND SO WE'LL HAVE THAT WRITER SATISFACTION SURVEY, WHICH STAYS RIGHT ABOUT 4.9 OUT OF FIVE. UM, BUT, AND THEN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE HEARD, SOME OF THE THINGS, THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE MADE BECAUSE OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD. UM, BUT YES, SO WE GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK THROUGH THAT, THROUGH PEOPLE WHO JUST KNOW TO CALL US FOR PEOPLE WHO CALL IN TO VIA THROUGH THEIR, UH, DISPATCH DESK. SO WE, YES, WE ARE CONSTANTLY GETTING FEEDBACK. YEAH, I'VE HAD NOTHING BUT GREAT EXPERIENCES WITH IT. I JUST HAD AN EXPERIENCE TO TAKE THE SILVER LINE HOME AND THEN GET IN A GET IN A RIDE AND THE RIDE DESIGNATION WHERE I WAS TO BE PICKED UP, THE DRIVER WAS NOT THERE, MADE A QUICK PHONE CALL, RESOLVED IT, AND I WAS HOME WITHIN MINUTES. SO, AND THEY'RE VERY RESPONSIVE. JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE JUST SIGNED A LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH DART THAT WILL ALLOW US TO ACTUALLY PUT UP A, UH, A SPOT THAT IS MARKED ADDISON ORBIT, SO WHEN YOU GET OFF, UH, BE IT AT THE SILVER LINE OR OFF OF THE BUS, YOU'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO GO. THERE WILL BE A DESIGNATED PARKING SPOT, MAYBE TWO. I'LL HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT. THAT WILL BE, HAVE OUR SIGN THAT SAYS ADDISON ORBIT, SO YOU'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO GO. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, AGAIN, THE TEAM'S WORK AND OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE INVOLVED. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, VERY GOOD. I SEE NO OTHER LIGHTS. IS THERE A MOTION? ONE MORE REAL QUICK QUESTION IF I CAN. IT'S VERY QUICK. LET'S SEE. UH, THEY REQUESTED OUR DATA FROM DART REQUESTED ADDISON'S DATA FROM ORBIT. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT RECIPROCATED. WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR DART DATA FOREVER AND THEY REFUSE TO GIVE US DATA. SO I WILL SAY, AND I, UM, I WILL GET MORE INFORMATION AND GET THAT OUT IN A FUTURE FRIDAY REPORT. DART HAS A TEAM THAT IS REALLY WORKING HARD ON GETTING SOME DASHBOARDS OUT. UM, SOME OF IT, I MEAN, THEY'RE, IT'S A BIG SYSTEM, SO THEY'RE KIND OF HAVING TO FIGHT OFF SMALL CHUNKS AT A TIME, BUT THEY JUST DID A PRESENTATION TO THEIR BOARD, I WANNA SAY IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER ABOUT SOME OF THE DASHBOARDS THAT THEY ARE DOING, AND I THINK GOLINK IS ONE OF THEM. OKAY. AND SO, UM, [01:10:01] I WILL GET SOME INFORMATION FROM DART, GET A FRIDAY REPORT TOGETHER THAT SHOWS SOME OF THE DASHBOARDS THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON GETTING OUT. PERFECT. I JUST HOPE THAT'S A TWO-WAY STREET. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I WILL SAY SINCE THE ELECTION, UM, AND ALL OF THE FEEDBACK THAT HAS COME, THEY HAVE REALLY SEEN HOW IMPORTANT GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT AND THEY'VE HAD STAFF WORKING ON IT CONSTANTLY. SO I'LL GET SOME OF THAT INFORMATION OUT TO COUNCIL. VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. ARE THESE LIGHTS FOR SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION? YES. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SIX A MAYOR I SECOND THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION AND TO SECOND CHANEL ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THE ITEM IS APPROVED. THANK YOU ASHLEY. APPRECIATE ALL YOU'RE DOING ON THIS. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. [b. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution authorizing the City Manager to execute a Professional Services Agreement with Garver, LLC for the design and engineering of the Taxiway Bravo Phase II Extension and Vehicle Service Road Project at Addison Airport in an amount not to exceed $697,500.00; authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement; and providing an effective date.] ITEM SIX B PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH GARVER LLC FOR THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING OF THE TAXIWAY BRAVO PHASE THREE EXTENSION AND VEHICLE SERVICE ROAD PROJECT AT ADDISON AIRPORT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $697,500 AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. JAMIE, GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR COUNSEL, JAMIE AOSA, AIRPORT DIRECTOR. I AM HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT, UH, TAX WAVE BRAVO PHASE TWO EXTENSION AND THE VEHICLE SERVICE ROAD PROJECT DESIGN. WE ARE LOOKING, UH, TO REQUEST COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH GARVER LLC, AND THIS WOULD BE FOR DESIGN AND ENGINEERING SERVICES AS PART OF PHASE TWO OF THE TAX WAVE BRAVO EXTENSION AND VEHICLE SERVICE ROAD PROJECT, WE MUST HAVE AN EXECUTED, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT, UH, BEFORE THE TOWN CAN ACCEPT AND IMPLEMENT FEDERAL AND STATE GRANTS THAT WILL COVER AT LEAST 90% OF THE ELIGIBLE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING COSTS. MAKING THIS STEP ESSENTIAL FOR FUNDING AND IN DELIVERY OF THE EXECUTED PSA TO GARVER IS CONTINGENT UPON THE TOWN'S ACCEPTANCE AND EXECUTION OF THE DESIGNATED GRANTS. JUST, UH, AS A LITTLE REMINDER AS TO WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROJECT, WE COMPLETED PHASE ONE IN FISCAL YEAR 2026 AND THAT EXTENDED, UH, TAX WAY BRAVO FROM CROSS TAX WAY BRAVO FIVE NORTH CROSS TAX WAY BRAVO SEVEN. UM, WE ALSO INCLUDED A NEW CROSS TAXIWAY, UH, ACROSS THE RUNWAY, UH, ACROSS RUNWAY THREE FOUR. ALSO, UM, AS PART OF PHASE TWO, UH, WITH DESIGN AND ENGINEERING BEING IN FISCAL YEAR 27, WE ALSO ARE LOOKING TO DO EVENTUALLY BID AND CONSTRUCTION OF PHASE TWO IN FISCAL YEAR 28 AND 29. UH, ALSO AT A FUTURE DATE, WE DO PLAN ON DOING PHASE THREE, WHICH WOULD BE A RECONSTRUCTION OF EXISTING TAX RATE. BRAVO FROM BRAVO ONE, UH, NORTH TO, UH, WHERE WE BEGAN PHASE, UH, ONE AT BRAVO FIVE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TWO NEW CROSS TAXIWAYS AT BRAVO EIGHT AND BRAVO NINE. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, WHAT WE, WHAT THE TOTALITY OF THIS PROJECT IS. UH, WE WILL BE COMPLETING AN EXTENSION OF TAX RATE BRAVO TO RUNWAY ONE SIX AT THE NORTH END OF THE RUNWAY. THIS WILL BE, UH, DESIGNED FOR AIRCRAFT DESIGN GROUP THREE AIRCRAFT. UH, THIS WOULD EXTEND ALSO A PARALLEL VEHICLE SERVICE ROAD TO RUN THE FULL LENGTH OF TAX RATE. BRAVO. WE WOULD ALSO CONSTRUCT TWO NEW CROSS TAXI LANES THAT WOULD CROSS THE RUNWAY. THAT WOULD BE DESIGNATED AS BRAVO EIGHT AND BRAVO NINE. AND THIS WOULD IMPROVE AIRCRAFT MOVEMENT AND OPERATIONS. UH, WE WOULD BE UPGRADING TAXIWAY LIGHTING SYSTEMS. UH, WE WOULD RELOCATE AND UPGRADE FA NAVIGATIONAL AIDS NECESSITATED BY THE EXTENSION OF TAXIWAY BRAVO. RIGHT NOW THERE'S ONE, UH, SUCH NAVIGATIONAL AID, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE OTHER NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES AS PART OF CONSTRUCTION. THE TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET WOULD BE, UH, CIRCA $10 MILLION. UH, THE EXPENDITURES ARE ALLOCATED IN THE AIRPORT FUND, AND WITH THAT 90% BREAKDOWN, WE WOULD GET A GRANT AROUND $9 MILLION AND OUR TIMESHARE WOULD BE AROUND $1 MILLION. AND OF COURSE, THERE WILL BE NO IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND OR TOWN'S DEBT SERVICE. AND TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, THE PROJECT WILL NOT COMMENCE UNTIL THE GRANT FUNDS ARE COMMISSIONED. AS PART OF THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING SERVICES, UH, SCOPE OF WORK THAT GARVER WOULD PROVIDE, WE WOULD OF COURSE HAVE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING SERVICES. WE WOULD HAVE SURVEY GEOTECHNICAL AND SUB-CONSULTANT SERVICES, AND WE WOULD HAVE COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE SERVICES, UM, AS WELL AS PART OF THE SCOPE OF WORK. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WOULD HAVE SOME BIDDING PHASE SERVICES, UH, SUPPORT FROM GARVER, AND THEN THEY WILL PROVIDE US WITH A, A NUMBER OF DELIVERABLES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. IN TERMS OF FUNDING, UM, UH, BACK IN JULY OF 2026, UH, THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE TOWN ACTING ON ITS OWN AS ITS OWN, UH, GRANT AGENT. UH, AND WE WILL FUND [01:15:01] INITIALLY A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING COSTS. WE WILL, AS A PROJECT PROGRESSES THOUGH FUND REQUESTS FOR REIMBURSEMENT FROM TXDOT, WHICH WILL BE AT LEAST 90% OF THE ELIGIBLE COSTS, UH, FROM STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS. UH, THAT WOULD BE COMMISSIONED THROUGH TDOT'S AVIATION DIVISION. HERE YOU WILL SEE, UH, THE, THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE, UH, $697,500, UH, PSA THAT WE WOULD HAVE WITH GARVER, LLC. UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, THE FUNDING SOURCES INCLUDE A NON-PRIMARY ENTITLEMENT FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 AND 26 FA AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FUNDING, AS WELL AS SOME IIJA, UM, FUNDING THAT WE WILL HAVE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, OUR LOCAL MATCH WILL BE 61,920, AGAIN FOR A TOTAL PROJECT COST, UH, FOR DESIGN SERVICES OF $697,500. SO THE FINANCIAL IMPACT AND RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE EXECUTED AGREEMENT IS REQUIRED AGAIN FOR THE ISSUANCE OF FEDERAL AND STATE REIMBURSEMENT GRANTS FOR TAX RAY BRAVO PHASE TWO EXTENSION, AND THE, UH, CORRESPONDING VEHICLE SERVICE, UH, ROAD PROJECT DESIGN. UH, THE DELIVERY OF THE EXECUTED PSA IS, UH, CONTINGENT UPON THE TOWN'S ACCEPTANCE AND EXECUTION OF THE DESIGNATED GRANTS, AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS. THANK YOU, JAMIE. QUESTIONS? CHANEL, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? NO, SORRY. OH, OKAY. RANDY. THANK YOU. JAMIE. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. VERY NICE JOB. UH, AND I'M QUITE CERTAIN YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE MUCH RESISTANCE TO THIS, BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON IT. WILL YOU GO TO THE SLIDE PLEASE? WHERE YOU, IT SHOWS THE DIFFERENT PHASES? YES. OKAY. FIRST QUESTION IS, IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT A REQUIREMENT TO GET THE GRANT FUNDING? AND IF NOT, SO THIS IS A REQUIREMENT TO EVEN GET THE GRANT FUNDING, SO WE CAN'T WAIT TILL THE GRANTS ARE DONE TO DO THIS. CORRECT. AS PART OF THE GRANT APPLICATION. WE HAVE TO DO THIS TODAY. THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I HAD ASSUMED, BUT I WANTED TO HEAR THAT. UM, $700,000. MY GOD. UM, AND THIS IS FOR PHASE 2, 2, 1 AND TWO ONE'S COMPLETED. THREE IS IN THE FUTURE. YES. MY QUESTION WOULD BE IT'S A BIG, LONG, STRAIGHT, THICK ROAD. WHY ARE WE NOT GETTING THE ARCHITECTURAL WORK DONE FOR THE WHOLE THING? WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA DO THE WHOLE THING. WHY? WHY DO WE COME IN IN PHASES TO DO A SMALL SECTION WHEN THEY COULD COME AND THEY COULD DO THE WHOLE THING? UM, PART PART OF THAT IS HOW THE FUNDING, HOW, UH, THE SOURCE OF THE FUNDING WORKS AND HOW WE'VE SUBMITTED TO FA WHAT OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS WILL BE, AND THE TIMING OF THE FUNDING IN RELATION TO THOSE PROJECTS. SO WE'VE PROVIDED TO, UH, FAA, UM, A PLAN IN TERMS OF WHAT PROJECTS WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AND WHEN WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THEM. BUT THE IMPORTANT PART IS ALSO WHAT FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE, HOW MUCH IS AVAILABLE. AND SO THE TIMING OF EVERYTHING, WE PLANNED IT SO THAT WE WOULD DESIGN THIS PORTION FIRST, AND THEN THERE MAY BE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE MIX THAT WE MAY WANT TO DO PRIOR TO GOING TO PHASE THREE. SO FOR THAT REASON, WE'VE BROKEN IT UP. THIS ONE. I, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT. UM, BUT WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT COST GOING UP, CONSTRUCTION, EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE GOING UP. UH, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME LIKE IT WOULD BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO HAVE THE ENTIRE BLUEPRINT FOR THE ENTIRE TAXI WAY. WE KNOW THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY TURNS OR BINS IN IT. IT'S GONNA BE A STRAIGHT TAXI WAY. AND WHY NOT UNDER TODAY'S DOLLARS? GET THE BLUEPRINT DONE AND THEN JUST DO PHASE TWO AND WE HAVE THE BLUEPRINT IN THE SAFE WHEN IT COMES TIME TO, TO PUT IN FOR GRANTS FOR PHASE THREE? YEAH. AS PART OF MY BEING HERE, UH, DURING MY 14 MONTHS, WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED IT, UH, TO DO IT THAT WAY. I'M NOT SURE IF IT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED TO DO, UM, TO GO FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN OF PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE, UH, CONCURRENTLY. I'M NOT SURE. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU JAMIE. I APPRECIATE YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. WHAT'S THE, WHAT DOES THE TIMELINE LOOK LIKE FOR PHASE THREE IN THE IDEAL WORLD? UH, WE WOULD, UH, OF COURSE DESIGN DURING FISCAL YEAR 27. UH, PHASE TWO FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH CONSTRUCTION IN FISCAL YEAR 28 AND 29, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD, UH, DO DESIGN 29 30 AND THEN CONSTRUCTION IN 30 AND 31. SO THERE'S A TAXIWAY OVER THERE NOW UNDER PHASE THREE? YES. AND THAT'S [01:20:01] GONNA BE RECONSTRUCTED FOR LARGER AIRCRAFT? YES. AND IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY BEING RECONSTRUCTED TO ALSO PROVIDE SOME SPACING BETWEEN THE CURRENT TAXIWAY AND SOME BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON THE WEST SIDE. OKAY. BUT IT'S FUNCTIONAL NOW FOR TAXIWAY? YES. UH, BUT NOT, NOT IDEAL FOR AIRCRAFT DESIGN GROUP THREE? NOT IDEAL. YES. OKAY. NON-STANDARD. AND THE GREEN PORTION UP THERE, IS THAT SOME NAVIGATION? YES. THE GREEN PORTIONS WERE, UH, AREAS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, UH, FOR POTENTIAL NAVIGATIONAL EQUIPMENT SWITCH OUT AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. RECENT FA FEEDBACK HAS BEEN THAT, UH, WE WILL NOT BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT. WE WILL ONLY BE REQUIRED TO DO ONE NAVIGATIONAL AID, WHICH IS ACTUALLY IN THE GREEN PARCEL ON THE LEFT SIDE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. JAMIE. IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SIX BI SECOND. THANK YOU DAN AND CHANEL FOR THE SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. ITEM SIX B IS APPROVED. THANKS, JAMIE. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. [c. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution authorizing the City Manager to execute a multi-year agreement with Axon Enterprise, Inc. for the purchase, licensing, training, and support of two Skydio drones, in an amount not to exceed $134,355.20.] ITEM SIX C, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A MULTI-YEAR AGREEMENT WITH AXON ENTERPRISE INC. FOR THE PURCHASE, LICENSING AND TRAINING AND SUPPORT OF TWO SKYDIO DRONES IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $134,355 AND 20 CENTS. CHIEF. HEY, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CHRIS FREEZE, CHIEF OF POLICE. TONIGHT WE'LL GO OVER THE CONTRACT TO PROPOSED CONTRACT WITH AXON FOR THE PURCHASE OF OUR TWO DRONES. DRONES HAVE BECOME INCREASINGLY COMMON TOOL IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CAN BE BENEFICIAL IN MANY SITUATIONS, AS WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT BEFORE. UM, LOCATING MISSING PERSONS, IDENTIFYING CRIMINAL SUSPECTS, INSPECTING ROOFTOPS AND ELEVATED STRUCTURES, ENHANCING OFFICER SAFETY, UM, CAPTURING AERIAL IMAGE OF CRASH OR CRIME SCENES AND IMPROVING SITU SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. DURING OUR SPECIAL EVENTS. UH, THE CONTRACT THAT'S PROPOSED INCLUDES, UM, SEVERAL HARDWARE COMPONENTS. THOSE ARE THE TWO ACTUAL AIRCRAFT, THE SCOTTIO X 10, WHICH IS, UM, THE OUTDOOR AIRCRAFT. SOME OF IT'S SPECS INCLUDE, UH, 40 MINUTE FLIGHT TIME, HIGH RESOLUTION CAMERA THAT ALSO HAS THERMAL IMAGING. UM, AND IT'S SUITABLE FOR, UH, LIGHT WEATHER CONDITIONS. THAT PHOTO IS THE ONE ON TOP. IT'S THE LARGER DRONE USED PRIMARILY FOR OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES. THE SCOTTIO R 10 IS THE INDOOR DRONE. THAT'S THE PICTURE ON THE BOTTOM. UM, IT HAS A MAXIMUM FLAT TIME OF UP TO 20 MINUTES OR THREE HOURS IN PERCH MODE. WHAT THAT ALLOWS IS IF WE'RE SEARCHING INSIDE OF A BUILDING, IT CAN ACTUALLY PERCH ON A SURFACE AND PROVIDE EYES AND EARS IN THAT STRUCTURE FOR UP TO THREE HOURS. THE OTHER HARDWARE COMPONENTS, UM, CARRYING CASES, BATTERIES FOR EACH DRONE SPEAKER ATTACHMENTS, SPOTLIGHT FOR THE X 10 AND THE PARACHUTE PLAN FOR THE X 10 AS WELL. ALSO INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACTOR THE, UH, SOFTWARE AND, UH, OTHER SERVICES. THIS IS THE REMOTE PILOT CAPABIL BUILDING FOR THE X 10 AND THE R 10, UH, FLEET MANAGER MEDIA SYNC, DATA STORAGE AND LIVE STREAMING FOR BOTH DEVICES. A CELLULAR DATA PLAN FOR THE X 10 ACCESS TO ALL SCOTTIO EXTENDED, UH, INTEGRATIONS, UM, BOTH FOR AXON AND THEIR EXTENDED PARTNER INTEGRATIONS. UM, FIXED REPAIR PRICING AND REPLACEMENT FOR THE DRONE UNLIMITED VIDEO AND DATA STORAGE THROUGH AXONS EVIDENCE.COM PLATFORM. ONSITE TRAINING BY AN AXON REP WHENEVER WE HAVE THE DRONES DELIVERED. AND ALSO ACCESS TO THE SCOTTIO ACADEMY ONLINE CON CONTENT, WHICH WE'LL USE FOR TRAINING. A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PAYMENT BREAKDOWN THE FIRST YEAR. AND NOTE THAT THIS WOULD TAKE PLACE APRIL 1ST. THAT'S WHEN WE'RE EXPECTING TO RECEIVE DELIVERY OF THE DRONES. UM, IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE FOLLOWING YEARS BECAUSE WE PAY FOR THE HARDWARE COSTS, WHICH ARE THE TWO AIRCRAFT UPFRONT. SO THAT'S THE 26 6 95. ALSO THAT FIRST YEAR SERVICE IN SOFTWARE COSTS, WHICH IS THE 21 532. AND THAT'S WHAT WILL BE REPEATED OVER THE REMAINDER OF THE CONTRACT. THE REASON WE GO IN WITH THE FIVE YEAR PROPOSED AGREEMENT, 'CAUSE IT OFFERS THE MOST CO COST EFFECTIVE AND OPERATIONALLY STABLE APPROACH TO ESTABLISHING AND SUSTAINING THE DRONE PROGRAM. MULTI-YEAR LOCKS IN HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE PRICING PROTECTS THE DEPARTMENT FROM ANNUAL COST INCREASE, ENSURES UN UNINTERRUPTED ACCESS TO AXONS EVIDENCE.COM PLATFORM AND GUARANTEES SCHEDULED EQUIPMENT, REFRESHES INCLUDED. THE CONTRACT AT TWO AND A HALF YEARS WILL AUTOMATICALLY GET ALL THE HARDWARE UPDATED, AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACT. IT ALSO ALIGNS WITH THE TYPICAL DRONE LIFE LIFECYCLE AND REPLACEMENT SCHEDULES, ALLOWING THE DEPARTMENT TO MAINTAIN CURRENT TECHNOLOGY WHILE MINIMIZING ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN OF LONG-TERM COSTS. WELL, SO, UH, FOR OUR TRAINING PLAN FOR ALL OF OUR OPERATORS, THEY WILL BE PART 1 0 7 CERTIFIED. UH, AND THEY WILL ALSO RECEIVE MANUFACTURER SPECIFIC INSTRUCTION ON THE X 10 AND R 10 AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS. OUR DEPARTMENT POLICY WILL COVER, UM, MISSION AUTHORIZATION, SEARCH AND SEIZURE REQUIREMENTS, APPLICABLE LAW, PRIVACY CONSIDERATIONS, EVIDENCE HANDLING, HANDS-ON FLIGHT PROFICIENCY, INCLUDING TAKEOFF, LANDING, OBSTACLE AVOIDANCE, SCENARIO BASED TRAINING, AND ALSO COORDINATING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS. FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, IF WE'RE GONNA USE IT FOR A STRUCTURE FIRE BECAUSE OF THE THERMAL IMAGING AND ALSO THE AIRPORT, IF WE EVER HAVE A NEED TO, UH, DO ANY OPERATIONS IN AROUND THE AIRPORT, CONTACTING THE TOWER TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CLEARANCE TO, UH, LAUNCH THAT AIRCRAFT BEFORE DOING SO. [01:25:01] AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU CHIEF QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY READY? THANK YOU. UM, MEETING OR TWO BACK. YOU CAME IN WITH THIS PROGRAM AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS 15,000 FOR THIS AND 15,000 FOR SOFTWARE UPDATES. IS THAT ALL INCLUDED IN THIS OR IS THIS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT, WHAT YOU HAD TO ASK FOR? THIS IS WHAT WE PROPOSED. THIS IS JUST A FIVE YEAR TERM. THAT'S WHY THE COST IS THE ONE UNDERSTAND, AND THAT CERTAINLY MAKES ME FEEL BETTER ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROGRAM. UH, JUST A GENERAL COMMENT ABOUT THIS. THESE ARE INVALUABLE. IT'S A NEW TECHNOLOGY GOING FORWARD IN BOTH FIRE AND POLICE AND THEY, THEY CAN BE INVALUABLE. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, YOU DIDN'T EVEN, YOU HAD NO, YOU COULDN'T TELL US WHAT, WHAT, UM, BRAND THAT YOU WANTED. MAC ALSO, I'M ASSUMING YOU'VE, UH, YOU'VE ESTABLISHED THAT IT'S THE SCOTTIO DRONES. YES, SIR. IS THERE ANY THOUGHT ON, UH, SOMEWHERE IN HERE, YOU MENTIONED FIRE AS WELL, BEING ABLE TO USE THESE. ARE WE GOING TO TRAIN ANY OF OUR FIREMEN, UH, ON THIS SYSTEM TO WHERE THEY CAN USE IT FOR THIS? OR WILL WE BE CALLING PD OUT TO THE FIRE TO, TO, TO RUN IT FOR 'EM? WELL, PD ISS USUALLY OUT WITH FIRE ON THE FIRES ANYWAYS, SO WE WOULD HAVE THE DRONE OPERATOR ON SITE. WE WOULD BE OPERATING THE DRONES. OKAY. VERY GOOD. UM, WHAT IS THE WEIGHT OF THESE DRONES? THE, UH, I BELIEVE THE X 10 IS RIGHT ABOUT FOUR POUNDS, AND THE R 10 IS ABOUT TWO AND A HALF POUNDS. OKAY. SO THEY, THEY ARE ABOVE THE 500 GRAM. SO, SO THEY HAVE TO BE REGISTERED WITH THE FAA? YES, SIR. YEAH. AND ALL THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE PART 1 0 7 CERTIFICATION. AND THAT'S MY QUESTION, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, UH, GENERAL COMMENT IS WE REALLY, THIS IS A BRAND NEW DIVISION IN YOUR DEPARTMENT. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE HAVING A TRAFFIC DIVISION OR WHATEVER. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE HAD, OR IN THE FUTURE TO HAVE A, A BETTER BRIEFING ON THIS RATHER THAN JUST COME TO A COUNCIL AND ASK US TO APPROVE MONEY FOR IT. I'D REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE, HOW WE'RE GETTING INVOLVED AND, AND HOW IT'S GONNA WORK. BUT, UM, I THINK THESE WILL BE VERY GOOD USED AND FOR WHAT YOU'VE LISTED, UM, AS LONG AS WE DON'T DO SURVEILLANCE ON 'EM AND THAT TYPE THING. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S PROHIBITED. WE WON'T BE DOING THAT, SIR. I, AND I REALLY WANTED YOU, THE PUBLIC TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT. UH, AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE FLOCK CAMERAS. EVERYONE'S SCARED OF WHAT THE SURVEILLANCE ON THAT IS SO USED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES. THIS IS FABULOUS. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. SO SLIDE EIGHT, UH, KIND OF, UH, TAGGING ONTO WHAT RANDY WAS TALKING ABOUT. SO NURSE, NO SURVEILLANCE? NO SIR. OKAY. AND, UH, THAT THE POLICY COVERS, UH, AUTHORIZATION AND GOVERNANCE REGULATION. THAT'S THE THING THAT BID US WITH FLOCK 'CAUSE IT KIND OF CAME AHEAD OF THAT. AND, UM, TEXAS LAW PRIVACY CONSIDERATIONS. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. I DON'T WANT TO GET BIT BY THAT AGAIN. I LIKE TO SEE THAT THEY ARE REPLACED BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY MOVING ALONG, UH, HALFWAY THROUGH AT THE END OF FIVE YEARS, DO WE, UH, ESSENTIALLY JUST RE-UP FOR IT? YES, SIR. UH, OKAY. THAT'S THE IDEA. YEAH. AND THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER CONTRACT WE'D BRING TO COUNCIL. OKAY. SO ABOUT $20,000 A YEAR IS WHAT WE USUALLY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 21 ISH A YEAR. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. LOOKS GOOD. LIKE IT? OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION? IS THAT A MOTION? DAN? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SIX C. THANK YOU, SIR. SECOND THE MOTION. AND THANK YOU DARREN, FOR THE SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYE. ALRIGHT, ITEM SIX C IS APPROVED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [d. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving an agreement with Ferguson Enterprises, LLC, doing business as Ferguson Waterworks, for the Advanced Metering Infrastructure Project in an amount not to exceed $3,221,349.14; authorizing a five percent owner-controlled contingency of $161,067.46; establishing a total project authorization not to exceed $3,382,416.60; authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement; and providing an effective date.] CHIEF ITEM SIX D PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH FERGUSON ENTERPRISES LLC, DOING BUSINESS AS FERGUSON WATERWORKS FOR THE ADVANCED METERING INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $3,221,349 14 CENTS, AUTHORIZING A 5% OWNER CONTROLLED CONTINGENCY OF $161,067 46 CENTS, ESTABLISHING A TOTAL PROJECT AUTHORIZATION AUTHORIZATION NOT TO EXCEED $3,382,416 60 CENTS, AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. BECKY DIVINITY, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING. HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT OUR A MI PROJECT. UM, CURRENTLY THIS IS THE PROCESS WE USE TO READ METERS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. YOU SEE OUR STAFF GOING AROUND WITH THEIR HANDHELD, UM, AUTOMATED, UM, DEVICES AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY READING THOSE BY HAND FOR EVERY SINGLE METER THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. THIS PROJECT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BACK IN 25. UM, BUDGET PROCESS. THE OVERALL APPROVED BUDGET AT THAT TIME WAS $3.15 MILLION. AND THAT PROJECT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE PROJECT I'M BRINGING FORWARD TODAY. THAT PROJECT APPROVED 2,250 METERS, UM, TO BE MODERNIZED, ADD ADDITIONAL [01:30:01] RADIOS TO EXISTING METERS, UM, THAT WERE ALREADY IN PLACE AND THEN RETAIN ABOUT 1300, UM, THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY UPGRADED. UM, DURING THAT PROCESS, THIS WAS PUT BROUGHT FORWARD AS A DECISION PACKAGE. AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S A ANNUAL REOCCURRING CHARGE OF ABOUT $50,000 FOR SOFTWARE. THIS SCOPE TODAY ACTUALLY REPLACES ALL CURRENT INVENTORY, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 3,948 ACTIVE METERS WITH DIFFERENT SIZES. THEY RANGE FROM FIVE EIGHTS INCH TO EIGHT INCH WITH A FERGUSON WATERWORKS CAMPS STRUT METER. UM, THE SOLICITATION PROCESS WENT FROM FEBRUARY OF 24 OR FEBRUARY 24TH, 2026 WHEN WE ISSUED AN RFP, UM, ALL THE WAY THROUGH SEPTEMBER 9TH, WHERE WE HELD, UH, VENDOR PRESENTATIONS OF FOUR DIFFERENT VENDORS. THE PROCUREMENT AND EVALUATION, UM, WAS COMPLETED. UM, THERE WERE INDIVIDUALS FROM ALL DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. UM, ONE WAS OBVIOUSLY PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING. THROUGH THAT WE HAD OUR WATER QUALITY TEAM AND LINE MAINTENANCE TEAM THAT WAS AVAILABLE. UM, OUR FINANCE TEAM, OUR IT TEAM, AND THEN OF COURSE OUR PROCUREMENT TEAM ALL SAT ON A PANEL TOGETHER. UM, LISTENED TO PRESENTATIONS ON THAT SEPTEMBER 9TH. FROM THE TOP FOUR VENDORS, WE RECEIVED 11 SUBMISSIONS. UM, THOSE VENDORS WERE ATLAS UTILITY SUPPLY NEXT METERS, ZENNER, USA AND FERGUSON WATERWORKS. UM, THE COMMITTEE REVIEWED ALL OF THOSE, UM, PROCESSES, UH, REVIEWED ALL OF THOSE, UH, PROPOSALS THROUGH THAT PROCESS. UM, AND SELECTED THE FERGUSON WATERWORKS CAMS STRUT WATER METER AS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE TOWN. THIS PROPOSED SOLUTION, AS I MENTIONED, REPLACES EVERY SINGLE WATER METER IN TOWN, ALL 3,948 WITH A MI METERS, UM, CAMRA. IT PROVIDES TWO COLLECTOR COMMUNICATION NETWORKS. UM, THE READY MANAGER, WHICH IS GONNA BE THE TOWN FACING, UH, DASHBOARD, THE, UH, PORTAL THAT WE WILL ACTUALLY USE, UM, WITH OUR, UH, TYLER MUNIS PRODUCT. UM, ALSO AN H2O ANALYTICS PRODUCT, WHICH IS THE CUSTOMER FACING PORTAL. AND I'M GONNA SHOW YOU A GRAPHIC HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. UM, DB UTILITY, UM, WILL BE THE ONE THAT WILL BE DOING ALL THE METER INSTALLATIONS FOR FERGUSON WATERWORKS. AND THEN OF COURSE THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT TESTING TRAINING, UM, EDUCATION OUTREACH. AND THEN THERE'S A WARRANTY THAT I'LL SHOW YOU IN JUST A SECOND. UM, HOW THIS WILL HELP, UM, OBVIOUSLY I'VE SHOWED YOU THE PROCESS WE'RE CURRENTLY USING TO READ METERS. UM, THIS WILL MAKE ALL METER READING AUTOMATIC. UM, ALSO IT WILL HELP WITH THE REREADS THAT WILL BECOME THE EXCEPTION. RIGHT NOW WE CURRENTLY REREAD METERS THAT ARE NOT READING ACCURATELY ON A VERY REGULAR BASIS EVERY SINGLE MONTH. SO STAFF CAN THEN FOCUS ON INSTALLATIONS AND TROUBLESHOOTING METERS THAT ARE NOT OPERATING CORRECTLY. UM, THERE'LL BE FEWER MANUAL HANDOFFS RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE, AS YOU SAW, THAT DEVICE THAT WAS BEING HELD, IT GOES INTO ANOTHER SYSTEM. FROM THERE, IT GOES TO ANOTHER SYSTEM. SO BASICALLY THROUGH THAT PROCESS WE'LL HAVE, UH, LESS METER SWAP OUTS AND IT'LL BE INFORMATION THAT'S GOING DIRECTLY INTO THE SOFTWARE. THERE'S GONNA BE DASHBOARDS NOT ONLY INTERNALLY THAT THE STAFF CAN SEE INFORMATION ON, BUT THERE WILL ALSO BE DASHBOARDS THAT THE UTILITY CUSTOMERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP FOR AND REUSE, UM, AND SEE TO SEE ALL OF THEIR USAGE. UM, AND THEN ALSO IT'LL HAVE MORE ACCURATE METER, UM, AND BILLING INFORMATION. IT'LL HELP US ACCOUNT FOR LOW FLOWS, UM, ACCOUNT FOR WATER LOSS. AND THEN ULTIMATELY THAT'S LOST REVENUE WHEN WE'RE NOT CHARGING FOR EVERY SINGLE, UH, AMOUNT OF WATER THAT'S BEING USED OR LOST THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM. UM, THERE IS A, UH, COMPONENT OF THE METER, WHICH IS CONSIDERED ACOUSTIC LEAK DETECTION. THIS IS REALLY COOL. METERS THAT ARE TWO INCH AND SMALLER HAVE THIS SENSOR IN THEM. UM, IT ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH AND, AND CAN HEAR. SO AN ESTIMATE. UM, AN EXAMPLE THAT WAS DONE IN ONEIDA, TENNESSEE, UM, WHERE THEY HAD THIS CASE STUDY, UM, ROUGHLY 2 MILLION, A TWO GALLON PER MINUTE SERVICE LEAK HAD BEEN RUNNING FOR ALMOST FIVE UH, MONTHS AND NEARBY BETWEEN 30 AND 150 FEET AWAY. UM, THIS ACOUSTIC METER WAS ABLE TO ACTUALLY, UM, LOCATE THIS AND GIVE THIS MAP INFORMATION SO THAT STAFF COULD GO OUT AND ACTUALLY IDENTIFY THE LOCATION OF WHERE THAT LEAK WAS BASED ON THIS METER. PROJECT MANAGEMENT MILESTONES. THIS IS GONNA BE A PROCESS. IT'S GONNA TAKE US SOME TIME AND WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A SEVEN A SEVEN STEP PROCESS. FIRST OF ALL, WE'LL DEVELOP OUR PLAN. WE'LL WORK TO INTEGRATE OUR SOFTWARE. THAT'S GONNA BE VERY CRITICAL FOR OUR UTILITY BILLING AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT. UM, AS WE INTEGRATE INTO OUR, UH, SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS OUR TOWER MUNI PRODUCT, UM, WE'LL DO NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'LL BE THE RADIO FREQUENCY THAT'LL ACTUALLY READ THE METER. UM, THEN WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT TESTING PHASE. WE'RE GONNA SELECT A FEW METERS THAT WE ACTUALLY GO IN, DO THE TESTING, DO THE INSTALLATION BEFORE WE DO THE FULL BLOWN MASS METER DEPLOYMENT. UM, THEN WE WILL TRANSITION TO THAT UTILITY ACCEPTANCE OF THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. AND THEN THEY WILL BE HERE PRESENT AND AVAILABLE FOR ONGOING SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT AND AND BEYOND. THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE IS TO START, [01:35:01] UM, AS SOON AS HOPEFULLY THIS GETS APPROVED, UM, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEFINING, UH, AND WORKING THROUGH THE DESIGN. UM, WORK THROUGH THAT INVENTORY AND OUTREACH. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER PHASES METER INSTALLATION. AND THEN OF COURSE FINAL ACCEPTANCE. UM, THE GOAL IS TO START FIELD INSTALLATIONS AROUND THE FIRST OF THE YEAR AND THEN TARGET THE CLOSEOUT. UH, SOMETIME IN THE SUMMERTIME, JUNE, JULY-ISH. THE METERS THEMSELVES THAT ARE FIVE EIGHT INCH THROUGH ONE INCH HAVE A 20 YEAR, UH, WARRANTY COVERAGE. THOSE THAT ARE ONE AND A HALF INCH AND LARGER HAVE A 10 YEAR WARRANTY COVERAGE. AND THEN OTHER PRODUCTS, UM, THAT ARE NON METER PRODUCTS HAVE A 24 MONTH, UH, WARRANTY COVERAGE DB UTILITY IS GONNA BE THE ONE AS I MENTIONED, DOING THE INSTALLATION. THIS IS GONNA BE DONE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. UM, ACTUALLY INDIVIDUALS, UH, UH, ARE GONNA HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP THROUGH A QR CODE OR A PHONE CALL TO ACTUALLY BE PRESENT WHEN THEIR METER IS SWAPPED OUT. UM, AND SO WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT ENTIRE PROCESS. WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THROUGH A DASHBOARD TO SEE WHAT APPOINTMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE. WE'LL HAVE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETINGS WITH THEIR TEAM, UM, TO GO THROUGH AND HEAR, OKAY, WE'VE GOT THIS MANY COMPLETED, WE HAVE THIS MANY LEFT TO DO. WE MAY NEED ASSISTANCE IN THIS LOCATION. UM, THIS WILL HELP ACCESS, UH, THE HOMEOWNER SPECIFICALLY IF THEY'D LIKE TO BE PRESENT. UM, WE WILL BE USING THE EXISTING METER BOXES FOR THE, THE MAJORITY OF THE METERS UNLESS THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE METER BOX. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR A BRIEF INTERRUPTION OF WATER SERVICE WHILE THEIR METER IS ACTUALLY BEING SWAPPED OUT. THE CREW DOING THE INSTALLATION WILL BE TAKING PICTURES, DOCUMENTING EVERYTHING ACTUALLY GPS LOCATING EVERY SINGLE ME, UH, SINGLE METER. UM, THEY'LL DO THE FINAL READ OF THE EXISTING METER BEFORE THE NEW METER IS SWAPPED OUT. UM, AND THEN IF THERE'S ANYTHING UNUSUAL, THEY'LL BE WORKING THROUGH WITH OUR STAFF, UH, TO ASSIST WITH, UM, ANY ADDITIONAL PIPING METER BOXES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE MAY RUN INTO IN THE FIELD THAT ARE UNKNOWN CONDITIONS. THE H2O ANALYTICS PORTAL IS THE CUSTOMER PORTAL AND FERGUSON IS, UH, INTERESTED IN HELPING, UH, THE TOWN. AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH OUR MARKETING AND TOURISM DEPARTMENT TO HELP EDUCATE, UM, OUR, OUR RESIDENTS, UM, AND CUSTOMERS ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THIS WEB PORTAL OR MOBILE ACCESS PORTAL. UM, IT CAN GIVE YOU CUSTOMIZED ALERTS, UM, AND IT CONNECTS THE INFORMATION DIRECTLY TO WHAT IS THE READY MANAGER AND TYLER MUNIS PRODUCT, WHICH ARE THE TOWN FACING COMPONENTS. UM, WE'LL BE WORKING THROUGH A BRANDING, UH, LAUNCH SO THAT CUSTOMER PORTAL LOOKS ADDISON SPECIFIC. UM, AND CUSTOMERS WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE WEB AND THE MODAL MOBILE, UH, USAGE ANYTIME, UM, AND BE ABLE TO READ. AND I'M GONNA SHOW YOU QUICKLY, UM, YOU'LL HAVE DIFFERENT PHASES OR DIFFERENT PICTURES THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT. SO THIS ONE SHOWS HOURLY, HOURLY USAGE OVER THE LAST 24 HOURS. UM, YOU CAN GO IN AND SEE, OKAY, I USED A LOT OF WATER DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME AND YOU CAN SAY, OH, WELL I WAS WASHING CLOTHES OR I WAS TAKING A SHOWER, OR, I WASN'T DOING ANYTHING. I WASN'T EVEN AT HOME. WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MY SYSTEM? DO I HAVE A TOILET THAT'S LEAKING OR DO I HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE THAT'S ARISEN? UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER USAGE. YOU CAN SEE KIND OF AN HOURLY USAGE. THIS IS A PARTICULAR, UH, SET OF DAYS, UM, THROUGHOUT A WEEK WHERE YOU CAN SEE DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY. AND SOME OF THIS MAY BE ON THE WEEKEND WHEN, LIKE I MENTIONED, THEY COULD BE WASH AND CLOSED. THERE'S ALL THESE DIFFERENT GRAPHICS THAT YOU CAN GO IN AND LOOK AT USAGE OR TRENDS IN THE NOTIFICATION PREFERENCES, PREFERENCES. YOU CAN SAY, IF I USE MORE THAN A THOUSAND GALLONS OF WATER TODAY, PLEASE SEND ME AN EMAIL OR A TEXT OR AN ALERT THAT CAN NOTIFY YOU. AND THEN IT GIVES YOU THE NOTIFICATION HISTORY. SO IT'S PRETTY SOPHISTICATED IN GIVING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BE AS INVOLVED AS THEY WANT. AND AS I MENTIONED THAT ONE THING THAT'S GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT TO US THROUGHOUT THIS ROLLOUT IS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN REACH THE RESIDENTS. SO FERGUSON IS GOING TO BE COMING WITH OUR STAFF AND AS I MENTIONED, THE MARKETING INSURANCE, UM, TEAM TO HAVE THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE TOWN, UM, RESIDENTS, NOT ONLY IN THE MORNING TIME, MAYBE AT THE A C WHEN WE HAVE A DIFFERENT CROWD THAN MAYBE IN THE EVENING TIME. UM, JUST SO THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO, UH, USE THIS, UH, FOR WHAT ALL IT'S WORTH. IT, IT REALLY IS A USEFUL TOOL. UM, HERE'S JUST ANOTHER GRAPH THAT SHOWS KIND OF A TWO WEEK TIMEFRAME. I JUST WANNA SHOW YOU, THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT. WHAT THIS MEANS TO YOU, UM, IS THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE MORE ACCURATE MEASUREMENTS OF THE WATER THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING USED THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA THEN BE REFLECTED DIRECTLY IN, UH, THE HOMEOWNERS AND RESIDENTS AND CUSTOMERS BILLS THAT ARE RECEIVING THOSE WATER BILLS. SOME BILLS MAY INCREASE THE WATER, UH, METER THAT'S CURRENTLY OUT THERE MAY NOT BE READING AS ACCURATE. IT IS GOING TO BE READING WITH THE NEW METER. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY THAT IS AWARE OF THAT WE ARE NOT RAISING WATER RATES, BUT WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN A METER THAT IS GOING [01:40:01] TO READ MORE ACCURATELY THAN THE CURRENT METERS COULD BE READING TODAY. UM, CONTRACT BAKE DOWN HAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT ITEMS. UM, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, THE OVERALL PROJECT TOTAL IS A LITTLE OVER 3.2 MILLION WITH THE ANNUAL SOFTWARE HOSTING OF ABOUT $50,000. UM, THE FINANCIAL IMPACT I MENTIONED IN THE 25 BUDGET, THE OVERALL BUDGET WAS ABOUT 3.1 MILLION. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THAT OWNER'S CONTINGENCY TO BE ADDED TO THE PROPOSAL TO REPLACE EVERY METER THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. AND WE'LL BE USING COS CASH RESERVES AND SOME PROJECT SAVINGS WE'VE HAD FROM A COUPLE OF PROJECTS TO FUND THE DIFFERENCE OF THE 3.1 TO THE $3.38 MILLION. AND WITH THAT, UM, WE RECOMMEND APPROVING A RESOLUTION, UM, AWARDING THE AGREEMENT TO FERGUSON, UH, WATERWORKS FOR $3.2 MILLION AND A 5% OWNER CONTINGENCY, UM, FOR AN AUTHORIZATION OF 3.3 8 2 4 1 6 AND 60 CENTS. AND WITH THAT I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU BECKY? YES, SIR. BRENDA, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU TURNED OFF? NO, I I I DO. I WAS, I WAS TRYING TO GET MY QUESTION. WE GO TO MARLON FOR SENDING. THANK YOU. YEP. UM, BECKY, THAT'S GREAT PRESENTATION. THIS IS EXCITING STUFF, ESPECIALLY FOR US TECHIES THAT LIKE THIS STUFF. UM, I COULD SEE THIS HELPING, UH, UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I COULD SEE THIS HELPING OUR HOA TREMENDOUSLY. UM, SO THIS IS EXCITING. DO WE, UM, DO YOU HAVE SOME STATS OR ANY INFORMATION, UM, ABOUT HOW MANY MAN HOURS, LABOR HOURS THAT THIS MIGHT SAVE US FROM GOING OUT AND DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT NOW? WELL, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY READING WITH ABOUT SIX TO SEVEN STAFF MEMBERS AT LEAST ONE DAY A WEEK. WE'RE REREADING AND GOING OUT AND CHANGING OUT METERS ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS. SO I DON'T HAVE AN ESTIMATE AT THIS TIME. UM, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ACTUALLY DOING THIS ARE SPENDING PROBABLY THE BETTER PART OF FIVE DAYS OF A MONTH IF YOU TOOK ALL THE TIME THAT THEY'RE ASSOCIATING WITH THIS METER READING AND, UH, THAT THIS AUTOMATED PROCESS IS GONNA REALLY ASSIST US WITH, WHICH I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA ALLOW THEM TO FOCUS ON SOME OTHER THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO. SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, UM, UH, THAT'S A BIG DEAL THAT WE NEED TO CALCULATE INTO THE, INTO THIS DECISION. SO THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. READY? THANK YOU. AND THE REASON, FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON YOUR, UM, OCTOBER PINK RECOGNITION COLOR . YOU LOOK VERY NICE TONIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THE REASON I HESITATED A WHILE AGO, I, I SEE TWO DIFFERENT FIGURES HERE. THE 3.2 AND THE 3.3, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT $6 MILLION, WE'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL OF YES SIR. IT'S THE TOTAL 3.3. SO THE 3.2 IS THE ACTUAL CONTRACT WITH FERGUSON WATERWORKS. WE ADDED A 5% OWNER'S CONTINGENCY THAT GETS US TO THE 3.3 MILLION. UNDERSTAND, I, WHEN I SEE CONFUS, THE TWO NUMBERS THERE, YOU START DOING THE MATH. SURE. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. EVEN THOUGH EITHER ONE OF THOSE NUMBERS IS HUGE CONFUS, IS THAT A, IS THAT GONNA BE ONETIME SHOT OR ARE WE SPREADING THIS OUT OVER FIVE YEARS OR THIS IS A ONETIME SHOT WE HAVE TO BE DONE. YOURE NOT, BY THE SUMMER WE'RE NOT GONNA GET MY SUPPORT ON THIS. I CAN ASSURE YOU OF THAT. UH, WHAT, WHAT'S THE INTERRUPTION AT EACH HOME? WHAT, WHAT'S THE INSTALLATION TIME WHEN THEY COME TO MY HOUSE TO CHANGE THIS OUT? UM, IT'LL BE DEPENDENT UPON EACH ONE OF THE SITUATIONS OF THE LOCATION, BUT IT'S VERY MINIMAL. UM, FERGUSON IS ACTUALLY HERE IF THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO, BUT YOU KNOW, MY INSTALLATION WAS VERY SIMILAR TO THE PICTURE YOU SHOWED THERE. SURE. SO JUST A ROUGH BALLPARK OF OF WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE TO, TO DO THIS AT MY HOUSE. SURE. ON ESTIMATE, I BELIEVE THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT 15 MINUTES TO 30 MINUTES TOTAL. VERY QUICK SHORT INTERRUPTIONS THAT THE GOAL SHOULDN'T HAVE A BIG PROBLEM. YES SIR. THAT'S THE GOAL. I'M SURE ON THE COMMERCIAL INSTALLATIONS WHERE THEY'RE LARGER MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THE RESIDENTS RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. THE METERS ARE ALSO MUCH LARGER IN LARGER METER BOXES. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT INSTALLATION, BUT THOSE THINGS WILL BE COORDINATED. AND THAT'S THE GREAT THING ABOUT THE DB UTILITY IS THEY ACTUALLY CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SCHEDULE WITH THE INDIVIDUAL VERSUS COMING IN AND JUST DOING THE DISRUPTION TO, UH, TRY TO PREVENT DISRUPTIONS AT OUR RESTAURANTS AND OUR BUSINESSES. ARE THEY, ARE THEY GOING TO TRY TO WORK AROUND THE, THE, THE BUSINESS HOURS OF OUR RESTAURANTS? WILL THEY COME AFTER HOURS TO DO THIS IN THE NIGHT OR THEY ARE GOING TO WORK WITH EACH ONE OF THE EVENT INDIVIDUALS TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY BASED ON THE TIMEFRAME THAT IT ALLOWS? SO THEY HAVE NOT GIVEN US A TIME THAT SAYS WE'RE ONLY GONNA WORK FROM EIGHT TO FIVE. THEY SAID THAT THEY ARE GOING TO WORK TO SCHEDULE THAT WITH EACH ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS. UM, ALRIGHT. TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY. MY QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE FOR THEM IS, WILL THEY DO IT AT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT OR MIDNIGHT OR ONE IN THE MORNING? IS IT WHILE, WHILE THEY'RE CLOSED WOULD BE MY QUESTION. UH, I I'M ASSUMING YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION, UH, TO MARLON THAT WE HAVE SIX OR SEVEN PEOPLE THAT READ METERS NOW. ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE GONNA BE, ARE WE DOWNSIZING? WE GONNA LOSE ANY POSITIONS ON THOSE PEOPLE? [01:45:01] NO SIR. THEY ARE ONLY READING METERS ONE DAY A MONTH AND THEN THROUGHOUT THAT TIMEFRAME MAYBE TWO OR THREE OF THEM ARE DOING REREADS. OKAY. OR DISCONNECTS RECONNECTS, UM, SHUT OFF. UH, IN, IN, IN BAD WEATHER. OR IF I'VE GOT SOMETHING BROKEN IN MY HOUSE AND I HAVE WATER RUNNING, WILL THE WATER BE SHUT OFF AT THE STREET AS IT IS NOW OR IS THERE A DIFFERENT PROCEDURE TO SHUTTING WATER OFF? UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE OPPOR THE ABILITY TO TURN THE METER OFF, UM, THROUGH THE AUTOMATED SYSTEM. I'M TALKING AT TWO IN THE MORNING WHEN YOU DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE. DO WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER THAT? SURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. HELLO, THANK Y'ALL FOR HAVING ME. MY NAME IS ZEEB WRIGHT, I'M WITH FERGUSON WATERWORKS, LLC. UM, SO I'LL ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION, UH, YOU HAD WAS TIMEFRAME. YES. ABOUT 15 MINUTES. IT COULD TAKE UP TO 30 MINUTES. ALL DEPENDS. EVERY SINGLE, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS EVERY SINGLE PIT IS DIFFERENT, RIGHT? MM-HMM . WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE WALKING INTO UNTIL WE WALK UP TO THAT. UM, BUT LARGER INSTALLATIONS ARE GONNA TAKE TIME AND SCHEDULING IS GONNA HAVE TO BE IMPERATIVE. UH, THAT'S THE WHOLE THING. WE'RE HERE TO, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO LITERALLY TOUCH EVERY SINGLE RESIDENCE AND EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR ENTIRE UTILITY. SO KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS BECAUSE OF THAT SCHEDULING IS KEY. WE WILL ABSOLUTELY WORK AFTER HOURS TO ACCOMMODATE AS FAR AS UH, WHETHER IT'S A RESTAURANT OR, OR ANY OTHER, UH, TYPE OF, UM, COMMERCIAL BUSINESS THAT DOES NOT WORK DURING REGULAR NINE TO FIVE HOURS. SO WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA HAVE TO, WE'RE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT, TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE AND NOT DISRUPT ANYBODY'S SERVICE. HOW MUCH EXPERIENCE DO YOU HAVE IN THIS? HOW MANY OF THESE HAVE YOU DONE? HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS. I'VE WORKED FOR FERGUSON FOR OVER 22 YEARS. OKAY. SO, AND I'VE ONLY DONE THIS FOR THE LAST 18 . SO THIS TECHNOLOGY IS NOT THAT NEW? NO, IT'S NOT. IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE, UH, THE SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGY THAT WE WORK WITH, KESTRA MANUFACTURER, THEY WERE THE INNOVATOR IN ULTRASONIC MAJOR READING TECHNOLOGY. SO THEY'VE DONE IT FOR OVER 30 YEARS. UH, HOWEVER, HERE IN THE UNITED STATES IT'S FAIRLY NEW. IT'S ONLY BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS. THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 20 YEARS PRIOR TO THAT. SO THE TECHNOLOGY'S NOT BRAND NEW. EVEN THE ACOUSTIC LEAK DETECTION, WHICH IS EXTREMELY UNIQUE, HAS ALREADY BEEN AROUND FOR OVER FIVE YEARS. OKAY. SO IT'S PROVEN. SO HOW ABOUT MY QUESTION ON ME BEING ABLE TO CUT MY WATER OFF IF I HAVE A FIRE SPRINKLER BUSTED MY ATTIC. SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE METER. UH, NOW IN LARGER APPLICATIONS WHERE LIKE, LET'S SAY IT'S COMMERCIAL AND THE LAY LENGTH IS DIFFERENT FROM OUR NEWER, SMALLER, MORE ELECTRONIC METER TO OLD BIG COMMERCIAL METERS, UH, THE ONLY THING WE'RE DOING IS PUTTING IN PIPING TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE LAY LENGTH TO MAKE IT FIT. RIGHT. WE'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE OUT YOUR VALVE UNLESS IT'S BROKEN OR IF NEED BE. THUS THE 5% CONTINGENCY THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, IT'S VERY, VERY INTELLIGENT THAT THAT WAS PUT IN THERE BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO RUN INTO SITUATIONS THAT UM, DON'T FIT THE NORM. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT ON THE SPOT . SO WE WILL WORK WITH THE UTILITY TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE IS THIS SOMETHING THAT UH, THIS IS AN ARCHIE OR RETURN TO UTILITY. THIS IS NOT A STANDARD PART OF OUR SCOPE. THEREFORE, DO Y'ALL WANT TO CHANGE THIS OUT OR DO YOU WANT TO PAY US TO CHANGE IT OUT RIGHT NOW SO YOUR CURB STOPS NOT GONNA CHANGE? THE VALVE IS ON MY SIDE OF THE, THE VALVE IS ON MY SIDE OF THE METER. I'D ALWAYS ASSUME THE VALVE WAS ON THE SIDE. NO SIR. THE VALVE ON THE CITY SIDE. YES SIR. SO WE WILL TURN IT OFF. WE'LL CHANGE OUT THE METER, WE'LL TURN IT BACK ON. OKAY. SO NOTHING WILL CHANGE THERE WHEN A NEIGHBOR CALLS ME AT THREE IN THE MORNING THAT THEY NEED ME TO COME CUT THEIR WATER ON. NO. NO. AND IF ANYTHING IS DONE, AND I'LL BE A HUNDRED PERCENT HONEST WITH Y'ALL GUYS, WE'RE NOT PERFECT. UH, IF WE ACCIDENTALLY LEAVE A, UH, A UH, WATER TURNED OFF FOR A SPECIFIC REASON ON ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT HAPPENS, THE PHONE CALLS SHOULD COME TO US AND WE'RE GONNA GO OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S TURNED ON CORRECTLY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE DON'T WANT TO DISRUPT OR ADD ANY MORE WORK ONTO THE UTILITY. PERFECT. THE ONLY TIME THAT WE'LL NEED THE UTILITY IS WE CAN'T LOCATE THIS METER . WHERE IS IT? THINGS LIKE THAT OR DO Y'ALL WANT TO HANDLE THIS WORK OR DO Y'ALL WANT US TO HANDLE THIS WORK AT A PREDETERMINED, HEY, WE'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU WHAT WE CHARGE TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK LIKE CHANGING OUT A VALVE. RIGHT. LAST QUESTION I WAS GONNA ASK BECKY, BUT YOU'RE THE BETTER PERSON TO ASK. SURE. WILL THE CUSTOMER BE ABLE TO HAVE A VISUAL READING METER LIKE NOW YOU CAN GO OUT AND FLO YES. AND YOU CAN SIT THERE AND WATCH THE WHEEL TURN? YES. I WON'T HAVE TO GET ON MY PHONE OR AN APP NO. TO LOOK AT THAT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO YOU CAN STILL LOOK AT IT. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS, IS YOU'RE LOOKING AT A DIGITAL DIGITAL ODOMETER RATHER THAN A OLD SCHOOL . AS LONG AS THERE'S AN ODOMETER THERE THAT YES SIR. IF I WANT TO GO OUT AND TAKE A PICTURE OF IT, COME BACK 30 MINUTES LATER AND SEE IF IT'S CHANGED AND I HAVEN'T RUN ANY WATER, [01:50:01] SO. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR GETTING UP AND ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS. YES SIR. SIR, OF COURSE. NO, I'VE GOT MAYOR. YES. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. SO BECKY, UH, QUICK QUESTION JUST TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT COUNCILMAN UH, RANDY AND, UM, MARLON SAID ABOUT THE, YOU SAID THAT THEY WON'T BE OUT AS MUCH, YOU KNOW, DURING THE METER READING. UH, WHAT OTHER, YOU SAID YOU WANNA FOCUS ON OTHER THINGS. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THE OTHER THINGS THEY WOULD BE FOCUSING ON? SURE. SO OUR WATER QUALITY TEAM ACTUALLY MAINTAINS ALL OF OUR ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS, ALL OF OUR PUMP STATIONS, OUR LIFT STATION AND OUR GROUND STORAGE TANKS. SO THAT'S GOING TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO FOCUS IN ON THAT WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. WATER TESTING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. UM, THEY'LL STILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE METERS AS NEED, AS NEED BE, BUT IT GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK MORE IN THOSE AREAS AND PERFECT SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND FOCUS IN ON THOSE LARGE, UH, YOU KNOW, STRUCTURES THAT ARE IN THE AIR OR THE PUMP STATIONS, LIFT STATIONS, ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT GIVING THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND KEEP IN MIND, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S ONE DAY A MONTH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY METER READING AND THEN IT'S ONLY A COUPLE OF, OF COUPLE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING OUT DURING THE REREADS OR THE DISCONNECTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY HAPPENING, UM, THROUGHOUT TIME. THEN THERE'S A GROUP OF 'EM, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO HAVE A METER THAT ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT SCENARIO AND IT TAKES A DIFFERENT SET OF PEOPLE. IT'S NOT JUST FOLKS FROM WATER QUALITY, IT'S ALSO FOLKS FROM LINE MAINTENANCE. SO, UM, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT NEW OPPORTUNITIES AND WAYS TO IMPROVE AND SO THIS WILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW THOSE TO USE ADDITIONAL SKILLSETS OTHER THAN JUST WORKING SPECIFICALLY ON THOSE DAYS WITH METER READING. THANK YOU. YES MA'AM. SO ON SLIDES FOUR AND FIVE, IF YOU COULD BACK UP TO THOSE. YES SIR. SO USUALLY WE GET A DECISION CRITERIA MATRIX ON DIFFERENT ASPECTS, UH, PRICE AND CAPABILITY AND STUFF LIKE THAT. UM, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE CRITERIA IN THIS CASE? I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE THE CRITERIA IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE HAD A FULL FLEDGED CRITERIA. UM, TODD MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THAT FOR ME, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAD A FULL FLEDGED CRITERIA THAT WE REVIEWED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS. UM, SO ORIGINALLY THROUGH ALL 11 SUBMISSIONS, EVERY SINGLE PERSON REVIEWED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE PROPOSALS AND THERE WERE FOUR DIFFERENT CRITERIA WE EVALUATED FROM THAT. WE SELECTED THE TOP FOUR THAT WE FELT FELT COULD MEET THE CRITERIA THAT WE WANTED. AND THEN FROM THAT FOUR WE SUBMITTED A, UH, PRESENTATION TEMPLATE TO THEM, A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT WE WANTED THEM TO ANSWER. UM, NOT ONLY THE TYPE OF METER BUT THE TYPE OF DASHBOARDS THAT YOU SEE, THE TYPE OF UH, WAY THAT THE INFORMATION'S GOING TO COME IN, WHETHER IT'S SATELLITE, WHETHER IT'S RADIO FREQUENCY, UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, WHERE THEIR EQUIPMENT AND MATERIAL ARE ACTUALLY LOCATED. UM, HOW QUICKLY CAN WE GET MATERIAL? WHAT TYPE OF INSTALLATION DO THEY DO AND HOW DO THEY TAKE CONTROL OF THE PROJECT? HOW DO THEY COMMUNICATE WITH THE RESIDENTS? WHAT DOES THE DASHBOARD LOOK LIKE? SO THERE WERE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT WENT INTO IT AND THAT'S WHY WITH A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS OF NINE FROM ALL DIFFERENT, UH, DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, THAT REALLY HELPED US THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 'CAUSE EVERYONE LOOKS AT IT FROM A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ANGLE. SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU TODD. UH, SO THE CRITERIA WERE SYSTEM SOLUTION, WHICH WAS THE TECHNICAL, UH, MERIT COMPLIANCE AND INTEGRATION CAPABILITIES. UM, PRICE, UH, WAS A PORTION OF IT INNOVATION. UM, AND THEN THE LAST ONE WAS, WELL NO, SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU DID, I'M GONNA LET YOU DO IT. SO OF THAT, UM, OF THOSE TOP FOUR, I JUST, UM, AND THEN PROJECT TEAM AND EXPERTISE. SO THEY ACTUALLY HAD TO GIVE US EXAMPLES. WE CALLED ALL OF THEIR REFERENCES. WE WENT THROUGH A REVIEW OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT REFERENCES THAT THEY GAVE US. TALKED ABOUT INSTALLATION, TALKED ABOUT THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS. WELL GOOD. SO, UH, OF THE TOP FOUR THAT, UH, DID THE PRESENTATIONS, UH, WHERE DID THEY FALL IN PRICE? HOW CLOSE WERE THEY IN IN THE COST? IS IT APPLES TO APPLES ENOUGH TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? UM, THE OTHER THREE WERE ALL HIGHER THAN THIS PRICE. OKAY. GOOD TO KNOW. LOOKS LIKE A GREAT SOLUTION. I KNOW WHEN WE HEARD ABOUT THIS BACK, UM, TWO YEARS AGO, I THINK WHEN WE STARTED OR APPROVED IT, UM, USING TECHNOLOGY I THINK IS IS A GREAT IDEA. GOING AROUND AND DOING IT. MY CALCULATIONS ARE YOU'RE USING LIKE ONE AND A HALF FTE, UH, TO DO THIS A MONTH AND PROBABLY DOWN AROUND ONE GIVEN REREADS YOU HAVE TO DO ANYWAY OR SOME SORT OF EXCEPTIONS. AND I WOULD LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE COST SAVINGS 'CAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE EITHER NOT DOING THINGS NOW OR YOU'RE GONNA BE SAVING SOME PEOPLE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING, UH, THAT I'D I WAS SENSITIVE TO. UM, SO YOU, AND [01:55:01] THE ONGOING COST IS ABOUT 50,000 A YEAR FOR THE SUBSCRIPTION. IS THAT THE MAIN, UH, WARRANTY MAINTENANCE OR ANYTHING? IS THAT ALL IN 50,000 A YEAR? THE $50,000 A YEAR IS FOR THE ANNUAL SOFTWARE SUBSCRIPTION TO BE ABLE TO INTEGRATE THE READY MANAGER WITH THE TYLER MUNI. SO TO KEEP THE TOWER MUNIS RUNNING, WHICH IS THE UTILITY BILLING SOFTWARE AND THE THE READY MANAGER DASHBOARD. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER UH, ONGOING ANNUAL COST? WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY. OKAY. UM, AND, AND KEEP IN MIND TOO, THIS IS, THIS ROLLOUT IS GONNA TAKE TIME. SO IT'S GONNA BE A SERIES OF MONTHS WE'RE, IT'S GOING TO BE SOME TIME BEFORE WE SEE THE FULL EFFECT OF EVERY SINGLE METER BEING ROLLED OUT. SO WE ONLY HAVE ONE EIGHT INCH METER, UM, APPARENTLY, BUT BACK ON WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT SOME FEES CHANGES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WE HAVE 1 8, 8 INCH METERS. SEEMS LIKE A PROBABLY VERY EXPENSIVE METER. ARE YOU, YOU'RE DOING ALL OF 'EM. SO THERE'S NO EXCEPTIONS? NO MANUAL, NO, NO. THE, THE PROPOSAL IS, UH, INDIVIDUAL PRICE FOR THE METERS THAT I LISTED, THE 3,948 WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO UP TO 4,000 IF NEED BE. OKAY. AND KEEP IN MIND, THESE METERS DO CHANGE AS WE HAVE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME ON, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO WE WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. UH, THE OTHER THING IS, IS THE METERS ARE LOCATED NOT VERY FAR FROM HERE, JUST A, A FEW HOURS SOUTH. AND SO, UM, THEY HAVE THEM, UH, UH, THE AVAILABILITY TO GET THEM TO US FAIRLY QUICKLY. UM, I WOULD SAY WITHIN 48 HOURS OR SO. UM, BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD THROUGHOUT THEIR PRESENTATION, NO, UM, ONTO SLIDE 14, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THERE. SO, UH, INTERRUPTION TO THE HOMEOWNER OR THE BUSINESS, I'M SENSITIVE TO THAT ALSO. I I, I WAS GLAD TO SEE THE WAY THAT THEY'RE HANDLING THAT VIA SELF-SERVE FOR YOUR OWN QR CODE AND SCHEDULING AND THEN, UH, UP TO A HIGH TOUCH, UM, FOR BUSINESSES TO COORDINATE WITH THEM. UM, SO THE CREWS ARE CAPTURING THE, UH, PICTURES OF THE BOXES. THEY'RE CAPTURING A LOT OF DATA. IS THAT GOING INTO OUR RECORD SO THAT WE HAVE MORE INTEL ON WHAT'S OUT THERE? ABSOLUTELY. 'CAUSE IT TAKES, IF WE GOTTA FIND IT, YOU MIGHT AS WELL DOCUMENT IT. OH, FOR SURE. UM, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE GONNA BE GPSING IT, COLLECTING ALL THE INFORMATION, HAVING IT IN THE RECORD DOCUMENTS THAT ALSO THEN WILL FEED INTO OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE. UM, SO WE'LL BE WORKING TO INTEGRATE ALL OF THAT TOGETHER BETWEEN THE TYLER MUNI PRODUCT, WHICH IS OUR CURRENT UTILITY BILLING, AND THEN OUR CAYUGA, UM, PRODUCT THAT WE HAVE, THE IRIS PRODUCT THAT ACTUALLY NOW WILL HAVE EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF INFORMATION OF EVERY SINGLE METER WITH THE GPS LOCATION THAT CAN NOW BE PUT IN OUR GIS. YEAH. SO IT'S PULLING IT ALL TOGETHER. YEAH. THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT MORE VALUE THAN JUST REPLACING METERS AND THE FACT THEY'RE ULTRASONIC MEAN THERE'S NO MOVING PARTS. THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING. I WAS, I WAS EXPECTING SOME SORT OF FLOW METER. NOT BEING ABLE TO TURN 'EM OFF IS KIND OF A BUMMER, BUT KIND OF THE NATURE OF IT, YOU DON'T TURN 'EM OFF BECAUSE IT'S JUST A METER. UH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. IT'S REALLY A GREAT USE OF TECHNOLOGY TO HELP, UH, KEEP OUR COSTS DOWN AND, AND GET A BETTER SERVICE TO THE, UH, USERS HERE IN EDISON. YEAH. I'LL MAKE IT A QUICK THANK YOU, BECKY, FOR THE PRESENTATION. YES, SIR. UM, WE ALWAYS, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT COMPARATOR CITIES. DO WE KNOW ANY COMPARATOR CITIES THAT ARE ALSO USING THIS PRODUCT? YES. THERE WERE SEVERAL THAT WERE LISTED NOT ONLY THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND THEN OF COURSE THE ONE THAT WAS MENTIONED, UM, IN THE ONEIDA, TENNESSEE. SO, UH, WE DID CALL THOSE REFERENCES, GET THEIR INFORMATION BACK, RECEIVED VERY GOOD FEEDBACK, UM, FROM THEM. SO, UH, WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED. ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE INDIVIDUAL WATER DISTRICTS EVEN DID A VIDEO WITH THEIR TEAM TALKING ABOUT THE SMOOTH PROCESS AND HOW WONDERFUL THE CONTRACTOR WAS TO ACTUALLY WORK WITH ON THIS APPOINTMENT BASIS AND HOW HELPFUL IT WAS. AND SO, UM, OUR, OUR HOPES ARE HIGH AND WE WILL HOLD THEM TO THE SAME STANDARD. I READ THAT, UH, ONEIDA, TENNESSEE EXAMPLE, AND IF THAT COULD BE IN THE FRIDAY NEWSLETTER WHEN THIS ALL BREAKS BASED ON THE RESULTS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS, BE ABLE TO READ JUST HOW IMPACTFUL FOR SURE, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN LIVING EXAMPLE OF THAT WHEN I LIVED IN PLANO, THERE WAS WATER LEAK UNDER THE FOUNDATION. DIDN'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT THE WATER BILL WAS IMMENSE. NOBODY COULD FIGURE IT OUT, NO PLUMBERS UNTIL YOU REALLY DIG DEEP AND THEN YOU FIND OUT WHAT THE COSTS ARE. SO I LOVE IT. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. YES SIR. RANDY, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? VERY QUICK, VERY QUICK. ONE QUESTION. YES, SIR. WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT OF, OF HAVING A TEST RUN ON THESE, THERE WILL BE A TEST RUN THAT'S A PART OF THIS PROCESS? NO, THE TEST RUN WILL BE AFTER WE PAID 3.2 MILLION OR $4 MILLION. I'M SAYING, WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT ON PHASING THIS AND HAVING A, A TEST AREA WHERE YOU COULD COME BACK TO US AND TELL US THE DATA OF YES, WE WEREN'T, WE WERE LOSING THIS MUCH GALLONAGE PER MONTH OR PER WEEK THAT WE WEREN'T BEING ABLE TO BUILD AND THESE ARE GONNA HELP US BUILD MORE, UH, APPROPRIATELY. UM, WE, NO, WE WILL NOT BE DOING THAT. UM, THAT, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT. WE WILL OVER TIME, BECAUSE WE'RE REQUIRED, UH, TO TURN IN A WATER LOSS AUDIT [02:00:01] TO TCEQ AS A PART OF THE OVERALL PROCESS, WE WILL THROUGH TIME AS THESE ALL GET INSTALLED, UM, THE HOPE IS THAT WE SEE OUR OVERALL WATER LOSS LOSS NUMBER DECREASE, AND THAT IS WHAT WE EXPECT THROUGH THE NEW METER. WELL, THAT'S ALWAYS THE GOAL, BUT IT WOULD'VE BEEN EASIER FOR MY DECISION TO SPEND A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY IF YOU COULD COME TO US AND SAY, WE ARE ACTUALLY NOT THEORETICALLY LOSING THAT, BUT THIS IS HOW MUCH WE WERE LOSING OVER THIS SECTION OF TOWN OR WHATEVER IT WOULD'VE MADE IT. THIS IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY. THANK YOU. NO, I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU MORE THAN YOU HAD SOMETHING. YEAH. JUST REAL QUICK, UH, BECKY, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA THE CURRENT AGE OF THE WATER METERS NOW? I MEAN THE, THESE ARE WATER METERS IN NEED OF REPLACEMENT ALSO, RIGHT? FOR SURE. I MEAN FOR SURE. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE BRAND NEW WATER METERS WE'RE REPLACING. OH, FOR SURE. WE HAVE, DEFINITELY KNOWING THIS PROJECT HAS COMING ALONG, HELD OFF ON REPLACING ANY THAT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. AND THE OTHER THING I MIGHT MENTION IS WE HAVE A VARIETY OF BRANDS OF METERS. SO WE WILL BE GOING TO ALL ONE METER, WHICH IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOUSE THOSE AND HAVE THOSE ACCESSIBLE AS WE NEED THEM. OKAY. UM, SO REGARDLESS WE WOULD BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE'D HAVE TO JUST START REPLACING METERS EITHER WAY. YES, SIR. IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, I, I I, I I, I'VE BEEN IN MY PLACE SINCE 1998 AND I THINK I'VE GOT THE SAME METER FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT LENGTH OF TIME. SO THAT, THAT WAS THE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE FOR SURE. THAT'S A GREAT POINT. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD. THEN YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE, MAYOR, I'D LIKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE SIX D SECOND THE MOTION AND A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM DARREN. I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, BECKY. YES, SIR. UM, AND THIS IS REALLY GREAT. I'M GLAD WE'RE DOING THIS UPGRADE TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON OUR, THE WAY WE'RE BUILT FOR WATER NOW. AND IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IN TIERS, CORRECT? LIKE UP TO 3000 GALLONS OR 5,000. IT GOES UP BY TIERS AND THAT'S HOW YOU GET CHARGED BY THE, THE NEXT TIER. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. WITH THIS PRECISION, ARE WE ABLE TO HAVE MORE PRECISE BILLING OR IS IT STILL GONNA BE LIKE THAT? UM, IT IS GOING TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE BILLING MORE PRECISELY, SIMPLY FROM THE STANDPOINT. AND THEN WE WILL WORK WITH STEVEN AND OTHERS THROUGH THE PROCESS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED. BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE US SOME TIME TO ACTUALLY SEE THESE NOT ONLY GET IN THE GROUND, YEAH. GET OPERATIONAL AND THEN START SEEING TRENDS FROM A STATISTICAL PERSPECTIVE. OKAY. NO, GREAT. 'CAUSE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE MOVING 21ST CENTURY WITH THIS. THE OTHERS SHOULD FOLLOW AS WELL. SO FOR SURE THIS, THANK YOU FOR THAT VERY VALID POINT. GREAT. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ONE OPPOSED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THAT ITEM IS APPROVED. THANK YOU BECKY. APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. ALRIGHT, OUR FINAL ITEM IS [Items of Community Interest] ITEM SEVEN, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST, OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO, UH, SHARE EXPRESSIONS OF THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE, ET CETERA. AND I SEE MARLON'S LIGHT ON. THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF, A LOT OF, UH, DART WRITERS IS THIS, UH, GO PASS INTEGRATION WITH ORBIT. AND SO WE WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THAT, UM, A LITTLE WHILE BACK. AND UM, SO I KNOW THAT, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE PLEASED WITH THAT AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S GONNA MAKE LIFE A LOT, A LOT EASIER FOR SOME FOLKS TO GET AROUND. AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA DRIVE, UM, MORE USES FOR ORBIT, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT. MM-HMM . VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. CHANEL. YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO TWO, TWO THINGS. UH, NUMBER ONE, JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU, BECKY, FOR, UM, COMING OUT TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND ADDRESSING THE STOP SIGN ISSUE, UH, THAT WE WERE HAVING. AND ALSO HAPPY TWO YEAR ANNIVERSARY. BECKY HAD A TWO YEAR ANNIVERSARY WITH THE TOWN THAT SHE SHARED WITH ME ABOUT, SO I JUST TOLD HER I WOULD DEFINITELY SHOUT OUT TO HER. AND THEN ALSO FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION, I JUST WANTED TO SAY A THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TO THE, UH, NORTH ADDISON PARK TO TAKE CARE OF THE, UH, THE DOWN TREE LIMBS. SO THEY WERE ALL IN THE WAY, BUT THEY CAME BY AND TAKE TAKING CARE OF THEM, SO THANK YOU. AND THEN I'M ALSO GETTING REALLY EXCITED. I SAW THE TREE, UH, TREES, UH, GETTING LIT UP LAST, UH, EARLIER TODAY, SO I'M EXCITED. , I LOVE CHRISTMAS, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT, UH, THE TREE LIGHTING OUT FRONT, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD, RANDY. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, WOULD JUST LIKE TO, TO SEND CONDOLENCES TO THE ENTIRE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA, PHILADELPHIA POLICE DEPARTMENT, ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, THAT, THAT HAS FELT THE LOSS OF THE OFFICERS THAT, THAT WE'VE LOST IN PHILADELPHIA OVER THE LAST WEEK. SO IT'S ALWAYS BAD WHEN WE HAVE THAT NO MATTER WHERE IT IS. UM, AND WE JUST, WE, WE WANT 'EM TO KNOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT 'EM. THANK YOU FOR THAT, RANDY. UM, I'VE GOT JUST A COUPLE THINGS. UH, FIRST, FIRST OF ALL, WANT TO, UH, WISH KAITLYN MCFARLAND [02:05:01] A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TODAY. SHE, I DON'T SEE HER HANGING OUT WITH US TONIGHT, BUT, UH, SO SHE'S HAD A GREAT BIRTHDAY. I'M SURE SHE'S, UH, SHE LIGHTS UP EVERYBODY'S LIFE, LIFE AROUND HERE. UH, THE OTHER THING, UH, SATURDAY BEFORE LAST IN THE MORNING WAS A NICE MORNING. I GOT TO START THE DAY WITH AT THE MARY KAY 5K, UH, MAKING SOME WELCOME REMARKS TO ALL THE FOLKS THAT COME OUT FOR THAT WALK RUN EVENT UP THERE. AND I THINK THIS WAS THEIR 22ND, 21ST OR 22ND YEAR, THEY'VE DONE THAT IN ADDISON. AND, AND BECAUSE THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN SUCH A GREAT, UH, CORPORATE NEIGHBOR FOR US. AND IT'S, I THINK IT WAS MY THIRD OR FOURTH TIME TO GO AND DO THAT EVENT. AND THEN RIGHT AFTER THAT CAME OVER HERE TO THE ADDISON CITIZEN ACADEMY. WE HAD STAFF ALL ON DECK OVER HERE AND GOT A NICE TEAM AND GOT, HAD MOST OF THE COUNCIL HERE FOR THAT AS WELL. SO, UH, FOLKS THAT GOT TO COME AND, UH, GREET THE, UH, THE, THE PARTICIPANTS IN THAT, IN THAT EVENT, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT. THAT'S, UH, THAT WAS MY FIRST INVOLVEMENT WITH THE TOWN WAS CITIZEN ACADEMY BACK IN 2008. SO THAT, I'M, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT GROUP GOING THROUGH IT. SO, UM, WITH THAT WE'RE AT THE END OF OUR AGENDA AND IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE'RE ADJOURNED FOR THE NIGHT. IT'S AT 9 44. THANKS EVERYBODY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.