* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] OKAY. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. GOOD EVENING. [Call to Order] IT IS, UH, SIX O'CLOCK, AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026. UH, THIS WILL BE OUR WORK SESSION TO BEGIN WITH, UH, WE DO HAVE ALL, UH, WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT TONIGHT WITH ALL, ALL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL IN ATTENDANCE IN THE, UH, IN THE CHAMBERS THIS EVENING. UH, NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY. GO TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PUBLIC COMMENT. THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA. COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS. CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW. THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. I DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, COMMENT CARDS, UH, IN MY POSSESSION. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE ITEM NUMBER TWO, PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVE ON [Council Member Clarification on Consent Agenda Items] TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. COUNCIL MEMBER CLARIFICATION ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. IS THERE ANY CLARIFICATION NEEDED FROM COUNCIL OR QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? I HAD A COUPLE ON, YEAH, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. ON, IN, IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. YES, SIR. YEP. BOTH OF THEM ACTUALLY, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO NEGOTIATES THESE CONTRACTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. LET ME GET TO 'EM. WHO, ONE OF 'EM IS A NEGOTIATION WITH, UH, ATMOS. WHO, WHO IS THE PERSON WITH THE CITY THAT NEGOTIATES THAT? OR IS THAT A COMMITTEE OR WHO, WHO IS THAT A COUNT, A STAFF MEMBER? WHAT IT, IT'S, VALENCIA CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT IT'S A COMMITTEE OF ALL THE CITIES TOGETHER, BUT OKAY. I CAN ANSWER. COUNCIL. VALENCIA GARCIA, CITY SECRETARY. UM, YEAH, SO DAVID'S RIGHT, IT'S A COMMITTEE COMPRISED OF, UM, MEMBER CITY'S CALLED THE ATMOS CITY STEERING COMMITTEE, UM, A CSE, BUT IT'S US AND ALONG WITH 181 OTHER MID TEXAS CITIES, UH, THAT ARE SERVED BY ATMOS ENERGY. AND SO WE ALL HAVE THE SAME RATE. IS THAT WHAT I'M ASSUMING THEN WE ALL NEGOTIATE AS A GROUP AND WE ALL GET THE SAME RATE? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. UH, AND THEN THE, UH, CONSIDERATION ON, UH, THE MULTI-YEAR HANGAR LEASE, WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS ONE? THAT IS, THAT IT IS IN A CONSENT AGENDA OVER THE ONE THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO WITH THRUST THAT WE HAD TO APPROVE THAT. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE ON A CONSENT AND, AND THAT YEAH, THIS ONE IS VERY DIFFERENT. I THINK JAMIE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION PRETTY WELL. ACTUALLY. NOTHING IS DIFFERENT. IT'S JUST, UH, ONE IS THRUST AND THIS ONE IS A DIFFERENT TENANT. UH, BUT IT'S FOR THE SAME TIMELINE. IT'S FOR TIME. UM, WE'RE EXTENDING THE TIME SIMPLY. WE'RE NOT CHANGING LOCATION OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST TIME. WASN'T THAT THE SAME WITH THRUST? HE'S REFERRING TO THE ONE FROM LAST YEAR WHEN THE BIG DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME THROUGH? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT TWO MEETINGS AGO WHEN, WHEN THRUST CAME BEFORE WANTING TO RENEW A, A LEASE AND WE HAD TO HAVE A PRESENTATION AND A VOTE, AND THIS ONE IS IN A CONSENT AGENDA. SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THERE? SO AGAIN, JAMIE JOSEPHA, AIRPORT DIRECTOR. SO, UM, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THAT PERHAPS THE LAST, UH, AT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING, IT WAS LISTED UNDER DIFFERENT, UM, POINT IN THE MEETING AS OPPOSED TO THIS ONE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YES. OH, OKAY. UM, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT WHY THAT IS, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT'S THE SAME THING. WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING. I WOULD JUST LIKE CONSISTENCY. IF ONE TENANT, YES, I AGREE, COME BEFORE COUNSEL TO GET APPROVED, UH, WITH A HEARING OR A, A PRESENTATION. I THINK THEY ALL SHOULD RATHER THAN, IT, IT ALMOST SHOWS A, A PREFERENCE TO SOMEONE IF IT'S JUST GONNA BE PASSED ON IN A, IN A CONSENT AGENDA FORM. SO, AGREED. UH, NOT THAT I'M OPPOSED TO IT, IT, BUT I JUST WANT CONSISTENCY ACROSS. AND I WAS WONDERING WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT WAS. DID WE HAVE THAT ANSWER MAYBE BY THE, UH, COUNCIL MEETING OR CAN THEY RESEARCH IT THIS TIME? IF, IF THEY'RE, IF THEY ARE A DIFFERENCE? UH, SO JAMIE ALREADY ANSWERED THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME. THEY'RE THE SAME. OH, OKAY. I AGREE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, ITEM THREE A THREE A COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL SENDS INTO STAFF REGARDING ITEMS REGARDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. UH, THOSE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED BY STAFF AND THEY'RE PUT INTO A SINGLE DOCUMENT SENT OUT TO THE COUNCIL. AND, UH, THAT SAME DOCUMENT IS ALSO UPLOADED TO THE WEBSITE THAT ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC CAN GO TO THE, UH, TOWN WEBSITE, [00:05:01] ADDISON TEXT.GOV AND PULL UP THE AGENDA AND THERE'LL BE A LINK TO THAT DOCUMENT IN THE, UH, IN THE BODY OF THAT AGENDA. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD ANY THIS TIME. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER [a. Present and discuss project delivery methodology options for the new Police / Courts facility.] FOUR, FOUR A PRESENT AND DISCUSS PROJECT DELIVERY METHODOLOGY OPTIONS FOR THE NEW POLICE SLASH COURTS FACILITY BILL THAT BOTH DESIGNS AND CONSTRUCTS THE FACILITY. SO THE ADVANTAGES THERE ARE, IT, IT CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT. UH, YOU CAN SAVE SOME COSTS DUE THE, THE COLLABORATION DURING THE DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. YOU HAVE JUST A SINGLE POINT OF COMMUNICATION THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH FOR BOTH THE DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION. THE DISADVANTAGES ARE, SINCE YOU JUST HAVE ONE COMPANY, YOU'RE NOT, UH, UM, MAYBE THERE'S TIMES DURING THE DESIGNER CONSTRUCTION THAT, UH, THEIR BOTTOM LINE PROFIT TAKES PRECEDENT OVER PROVIDING A QUALITY PROJECT OR MAKING A DECISION THAT MIGHT BE IN, NOT IN THE OWNER'S BEST LONG-TERM INTEREST. AND IT'S ALSO A SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT GOES WRONG WITH THAT FIRM, YOU LOSE BOTH YOUR DESIGNER AND, AND YOUR CONTRACTOR. DESIGN. BID BUILD IS TRADITIONAL. YOU SEE THAT A LOT IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT WHERE THE OWNER WILL HIRE A FIRM TO DESIGN, THEY'LL GET THOSE DESIGNS, THEY'LL PUT THOSE OUT ON THE STREET FOR BIDS, AND THEN THEY'LL SELECT SOMEBODY TO BUILD IT, AND THEN THEY'LL BUILD THAT. SO THE ADVANTAGES THERE ARE, THERE'S SOME NATURAL COMPETITION BUILT INTO THE PROCESS BECAUSE THE, THE CONTRACTORS ARE BIDDING, UH, ON THAT PROJECT. SO YOU MAY RESULT IN A LOWER OVERALL COST BY SEPARATING THE DESIGN TEAM AND THE CONSTRUCTION TEAM. YOU, YOU HAVE AN ADVOCATE IN THE DESIGNER, YOU ALSO HAVE AN ADVOCATE IN THE CONTRACTOR. SO THEY'RE BOTH WORKING, YOU KNOW, TOGETHER TO SOLVE, TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE OWNER, MORE SO THAN WHEN IT'S JUST A SINGLE FIRM. DISADVANTAGES ARE, ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE REALLY DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE BECAUSE IF YOU HAVEN'T DESIGNED A BUILDING YET, IT'S REALLY HARD FOR SOMEBODY TO SAY HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST TO BUILD IT. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE OPERATING A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE DARK WHEN YOU GO, UH, WITH THIS ROUTE. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF MONEY, MONEY TIED UP IN THE DESIGN. AND THEN IF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE ASTRONOMICAL AND YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT, YOU'RE EITHER GOING BACK TO DESIGN OR YOU'RE NOT DOING THE PROJECT AND YOU'VE GOT THOSE SUNK COSTS. UH, THE OWNER'S ALSO VULNERABLE TO A LOT OF CHANGE ORDERS. UH, TECHNOLOGY HAS GOTTEN A LOT BETTER WITH, UM, 3D MODELING, BUT, UH, IN, IN THE PAST WHEN YOU DESIGN SOMETHING IN TWO DIMENSIONS AND THEN YOU BUILD IT IN THREE DIMENSIONS, SOMETIMES YOU RUN INTO CONFLICTS, YOU HAVE TO REDESIGN, YOU HAVE TO DO CHANGE ORDERS. THERE'S, THERE'S ADDITIONAL COSTS INVOLVED. SO, UH, YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE AT RISK AS THE OWNER UNDER DESIGN BID BUILD, THIS ONE IS RELATIVELY, UH, NEW. IT'S BECOME MORE COMMON IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, PARTICULARLY SINCE CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE INCREASED SO MUCH. UM, THIS IS WHERE THE OWNER HIRES BOTH A DESIGNER AND A PERSON'S CALLED A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK. SO THAT CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK HAS A, UH, THEIR CONTRACTOR, THEY HAVE A BIG FIRM AND THEY WORK WITH THE DESIGNER THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. THEY MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GONNA BE CONSTRUCTABLE. THEY OFFER SOLUTIONS, THEY OFFER COST SAVINGS [00:10:01] AND DIFFERENT METHODS THAT IT'S DESIGNED IN A WAY, UM, THAT THEY KNOW THEY'LL MINIMIZE THE CHANGE ORDERS AND, AND ISSUES DOWN THE LINE. BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR HAS BEEN A PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS, THEY THEN PROVIDE A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE TO THE CITY. SO THEY SAY, I CAN BUILD THAT FOR X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, AND IF THE ACTUAL PRICE GOES OVER THAT THEY ARE ON THE HOOK FOR ANY COST OVERAGES ABOVE THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE THAT THEY PROVIDED. SO AS THE OWNER, WE KNOW WE'RE LOCKED IN ON THAT TO THAT PRICE. UM, SO, UM, CMAR IS GOOD BECAUSE OF THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. THE CMAR PARTICIPATION IN THE PROCESS ALLOWS FOR THOSE COST CONTROLS AND IMPROVED CONSTRUCTABILITY, AND IT'S RECOMMENDED FOR LARGER, MORE COMPLEX PROJECTS THAT HAVE TIME SENSITIVE, UH, SCHEDULES. THE DISADVANTAGES IS THAT, THAT CMAR CAN REALLY MAKE OR BREAK, UH, YOUR PROJECT. AND FOR EXAMPLE, HERE WE USE ON THIS, THIS REMODEL AND WE HAD AN OUTSTANDING CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK AND THEY BROUGHT IT IN WELL UNDER BUDGET AND, UH, DID A GREAT JOB IN THE PROCESS. SO, UH, THAT'S A CRITICAL DECISION WHO YOU, WHO YOU PICK, UH, REGARDLESS. BUT IN THAT PROCESS IN PARTICULAR, UH, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, THAT'S, UH, REALLY DOESN'T QUITE FIT WITH A, UH, POLICE BUILDING. BUT ACTUALLY TALKING WITH, WITH WAYNE OUT THERE, UH, IN THE CHAMBERS BEFORE A COUPLE FOLKS HAVE APPROACHED, HEY, WE'LL BUILD IT AND ESSENTIALLY LEASE IT BACK TO YOU. BUT WE ALREADY HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE AS THE TOWN THROUGH BONDS. THEY'RE IN IT, THEY HAVE A PROFIT MOTIVE, SO YOU, YOU, YOU'RE ULTIMATELY GONNA PAY MORE IN THE LONG RUN. BUT FOR SOMETHING LIKE A STADIUM, UM, OR A, LIKE A HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER, UH, MUNICIPALITIES HAVE TO USE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS QUITE SUCCESSFULLY. UH, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT WITH THIS PROJECT AT THIS TIME. SO, UM, WHAT HAVE THE OTHER CITIES DONE? AND THIS GOES BACK TO 2020 AND BY AND LARGE C MARS IS THE METHODS THAT FOLKS HAVE, UH, SELECTED, BUT THERE HAS BEEN DESIGN BUILD AND DESIGNED BID BUILD. THERE'S ONE MORE ON HERE THAT, UM, IT WAS THE DFW AIRPORT PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY. THAT WAS IN 2019. IT WAS A FAIRLY LARGE PROJECT. I COULDN'T QUITE DETERMINE EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID, BUT THERE WAS AN ARCHITECT OF RECORD AND THEN THERE WAS A CONTRACTOR. SO IT WAS EITHER DESIGN BUILD, OR IT WASN'T DESIGN BUILD, IT WAS PROBABLY DESIGN BID BUILD, BUT I COULDN'T FIND EXACT PROOF SAYING THAT WAS THE CASE OF, IN YOUR RESEARCH, YOU'D COME ACROSS THAT ONE. I DID WANNA MENTION THAT BECAUSE THAT IS WAS A LARGE PROJECT AND IT WAS ROUGHLY IN THE SAME TIMELINE. THERE'S A SUMMARY OF THE PROS AND CONS OF EACH OF THE METHODS, ADVANTAGES, DISADVANTAGES, AND WHAT THEY'RE BEST FOR. I CAN GO THROUGH ANY OF THAT AGAIN OR MOVE ON. OKAY. UH, SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK. UM, EARLY COLLABORATION, BETTER COST CONTROL, REDUCE RISK TO THE TOWN. WE THINK THIS PROJECT IS WELL SUITED FOR IT. AND, UM, IF THE COUNCIL PROVIDES DIRECTION FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION, IT WON'T MATTER IF WE'RE NEW BUILD OR IF WE HAVE THE REMODEL, UH, YOU KNOW, WHICHEVER WAY THAT THAT MAY GO, THAT SAME PROCESS WORKS VERY WELL FOR EITHER ONE. AND, UH, THE NEXT STEP WOULD THEN BE GET A, GET AN ARCHITECT UNDER A DESIGN CONTRACT, GET A CMAR UNDER CONTRACT, AND HAVE THOSE FOLKS START WORKING TOGETHER. ONCE THE DESIGN IS DONE, THEY WOULD BRING A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. THEN IF THAT WAS APPROVED, THEY WOULD BE AUTHORIZED TO START CONSTRUCTION. SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, BILL. CHRIS, BILL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. YES, SIR. UM, NOW IS PROBABLY A, A A DIFFICULT TIME TO REALLY BE BIDDING A PROJECT, I WOULD THINK. JUST BE, I'M, I'M GUESSING THAT THE COST OF THE RAW MATERIAL ARE ALL OVER THE BOARD. SO WITH, WITH THE CMAR IN YOUR, IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU TALK ABOUT IF COST COMES IN HIGHER, UM, THEN, THEN THE CMAR WILL ABSORB THAT. YES, SIR. IF WE BID RIGHT NOW AND WHEN WE ACTUALLY START CONSTRUCTION, UH, COSTS ARE LOWER, WILL THAT GET REFLECTED IN THE CONTRACT AS WELL? SO GUARANTEED MAXIMUM, PROBABLY THE, THE LANGUAGE WE USE THE A I A LANGUAGE. SO THERE, THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO RECAPTURE SAVINGS. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO, DEPENDING ON HOW WE WANNA AWARD THE CONTRACT, IF THEY COME IN, EVEN UNDER THEIR GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE, SOMETIMES MUNICIPALITIES WILL SHARE SAVINGS WITH THE CONTRACTOR AS AN INCENTIVE TO DO THAT. WE DID NOT SHARE ANY SAVINGS ON THE PROJECT THE LAST TIME, BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, IF, IF WE HAVE A SUDDEN DROP, THE ECONOMY JUST REALLY DROPS OFF, THEY STOP BUILDING DATA CENTERS, STEEL AND CONCRETE GET A LOT CHEAPER, CHEAPER, THE COST OF STEEL COMES DOWN, WE BID IT, AND THEN A YEAR LATER OR SIX MONTHS LATER, THE COST COMES DOWN. WE'D [00:15:01] STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE IN THAT. YES, SIR. OKAY. SO THE, THE NICE THING IS THE DESIGN AND THAT C MARS, UM, UM, THEY GO OUT AND GET THEIR SUBS AND THEY GET ALL THEIR PRICING AND THEY PUT THAT TOGETHER. THAT'S HAPPENING LITERALLY RIGHT AS CONSTRUCTION WITHIN START. SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, THERE'S NOT A, A GAP. THERE'S NOT A YEAR THEY, THEY DESIGN TOGETHER, THEN THEY COME BACK WITH THE PRICE. THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN BUILD IT FOR, YOU KNOW, STARTING ON DATE CERTAIN I SEE. IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE. SO THERE'S NOT A BIG GAP, BUT IF SOMETHING TOTALLY, WELL, IF, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, THEY EAT THE PRICE. IF IT GOES IN OUR FAVOR, WE CAN SHARE IN THAT COST PRODUCTION. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO THANK YOU. THE, THE LANGUAGE THOUGH IN THE CONTRACT NEEDS TO BE, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE CAPTURE THAT, YOU KNOW. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU MAYOR BILL. GREAT PRESENTATION. QUICK QUESTION AND MAYBE CHIEF CAN COME UP FOR THIS ONE. SO THOSE, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE. UH, FIVE, NOPE, SORRY. GLASSES. SLIDE EIGHT. WITH SO MANY RELATIVELY NEW AND RECENT POLICE DEPARTMENTS CHIEF, HAVE YOU AND OR BILL HAVE YOU SEEN MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THOSE FACILITIES TO SEE WHERE THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WAS LACKING AFTER THE FACT WHEN THEY CUT THE RIBBON AND WALKED IN, GOES, OH, LIGHT SWITCH SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE AND SAID IT'S OVER THERE. LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT. HAVE WE TAKEN THOSE VIRTUAL TOURS OR TOURED SOME OF THESE FACILITIES THERE AND, AND, UH, CHIEF FREEZE AND, AND HIS STAFF DID A, DID A LOT MORE TOURS THAN I DID, SO I'LL LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT AGAIN. CHRIS FREEZE CHIEF OF POLICE, UH, YES. UH, OUR TEAM IS TOURED ALMOST EVERY SINGLE, UH, FACILITY ON THAT, THAT LIST. SO MY ASK IS, WHEN YOU WERE THROUGH THOSE TOURS, WERE YOU MAKING LIKE A LITTLE CHECKLIST, LIKE, OKAY, THEY DID THIS RIGHT? YES, THEY DID THIS WRONG. SO THERE'S A COMPILED LIST OF THINGS WE ALREADY KNOW. WE DON'T NEED TO REINVENT THE WHEEL HERE. CORRECT. WE, WE ALREADY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT. IT'S JUST BUILDING IT IN OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THEN HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ARCHITECTS, WHAT WORKS BEST FOR WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE. BUT YES, UM, WHATEVER THE TEAM'S GONE THROUGH, WE'VE GONE THROUGH, WE LIKE THIS, WE DON'T LIKE THIS, THIS WOULD WORK HERE. UH, SO IT'S DEFINITELY A CONVERSATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. GREAT. THANKS. THANKS, CHIEF. SO BILL, BACK TO THE, BACK TO THAT AS THOSE ANSWERS, I GUESS WHEN YOU GO IN WITH YOUR, YOUR BUCKET LIST OF AFFORDABILITY, WITHIN THE BUDGET OF THE, OF THE BOND, DO WE, DO WE LEARN EARLY ON WITH CMAR, LIKE, YOU GUYS ARE OUTTA YOUR MIND, YOU'RE NOT GETTING A, B AND C, YOU'LL GET DE AND F. DO WE ALREADY KNOW THAT GOING INTO THIS? THAT, SO AS THAT DESIGN, SO WE, WE HAVE AS A TOWN ENGAGED IN, UH, A CON THE CONCEPT PROCESS AND HAD A COST ESTIMATOR. UH, THOSE NUMBERS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO COUNSEL WERE BASED ON, ON THOSE. IT, IT SHOWED SOME ESCALATION. UH, SO AS WE GET INTO THAT DESIGN, THOSE HOPEFULLY THOSE, YOU KNOW, PROVE OUT TO BE TRUE. UH, BUT IF THERE IS SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT. AND AS PART OF, IF WE SEE THAT DURING THE DESIGN AND WE KNOW STEEL IS DOUBLED, SO YOU HAVE TO VALUE ENGINEER SOMETHING ELSE DOWN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING THAT ALL ALONG THE WAY VERSUS DESIGNING IT IN A VACUUM AND THEN PUTTING IT ON THE STREET AND ONLY THEM LEARNING THAT IT'S GONNA BE, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND YOU PAY MORE TO DO THAT. OR YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU GET PARTWAY THROUGH CONSTRUCTION AND YOU HAVE TO START VALUE ENGINEERING. SO THAT'S REALLY THE, UH, ONE OF THE HUGE BENEFITS OF THIS ONE AND THE CREDIT I WANT TO DESIGN BUILD IS SIMILAR 'CAUSE THEY'RE WORKING RIGHT ALONG IN THE, IN THE SAME PATH AS WELL TOGETHER. UH, SO THEY'VE GOT A GOOD HANDLE ON THAT. AND WITH, WITH THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT AND THE FOLKS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HAVE BEEN PARTS OF ALL OF THESE, WE, WE FEEL LIKE THOSE COST ESTIMATES ARE VERY ACCURATE AS OF RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S MORE DATA CENTERS BUILD AND OTHER THINGS COMPETE FOR THOSE, THOSE RESOURCES, THOSE PRICES CONTINUE TO, TO INCREASE. MY LAST QUESTION FOR YOU IS THIS, SO THEN AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS IN THESE FACILITIES DATED BACK TO 2020, YOU'RE GONNA GET A ONE OR TWO YEAR MANUFACTURER'S WARRANTY, RIGHT? FROM THE BUILDERS AND THEIR SUBS. SO HAVE WE LEARNED FROM ANYTHING FROM LET'S SAY 2020 OR 2020 FOURS BUILDINGS HAVE, THEY'VE HAD ISSUES, LEAKY ROOFS, BAD AIR CONDITIONING, DUCT WORK, JUST TO GO BACK AND LEARN WHAT MAY HAVE GONE WRONG VERSUS EVERYTHING THAT'S PERFECT? 'CAUSE NOTHING'S PERFECT WITH THESE BUILDINGS, I'M SURE. CORRECT. YOU, YOU LEARN AND THAT'S THE, UH, AGAIN, THE VALUE OF HAVING THAT GREAT ARCHITECTURAL TEAM AND THE, AND CMAR OR THE, OR THE CONTRACTOR THAT'S OUT THERE IN THE REAL WORLD, WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO ALWAYS TRY TO LEARN FROM SOMEBODY ELSE'S MISTAKES, RIGHT? AND, YOU KNOW, THIS BRAND HAS ISSUES OR THIS, THIS MODEL, THIS MAKE AND MODEL HAS ISSUES. DON'T STAY AWAY FROM THIS, DO THAT. SO YES, THAT, THAT IS A PART OF THE PROCESS. AND WE DO HAVE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE FROM OUR, OUR OWN TEAM, FROM THE DESIGN TEAMS AND THEN HOPEFULLY THE, THE CMAR, IF WE GO THAT ROUTE, THAT THAT WE WILL STAY AWAY FROM THOSE THINGS THAT, THAT TEND TO FALL APART QUICKER. IT MAY HAVE A BETTER INITIAL PRICE, BUT A LONGER TERM COST. THAT'S ALL I ASK IS THAT WE, WE DON'T LOOK BACK LIKE THE A C [00:20:01] WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN THE ROOF'S LEAKING AND WE JUST HAD A CONTRACTOR REROOF AND WE'RE THINKING, WHAT, HOW DO WE HAVE MOLD BEHIND THE WALLS FROM THE BAD SHODDY ROOF THAT WAS PUT ON? SO IT'S LIKE, I JUST WANT HISTORY TO REPEAT ITSELF WITH THIS BIG OF A PROJECT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU BILL. RANDY, THANK YOU. UH, GOING BACK TO, TO THE, THE MANAGER AT RISK VERSUS THE BID PRO BID, WHATEVER THAT ONE'S CALLED, WHEN WE TAKE A BID, ARE THEY NOT ALSO LOCKED INTO THAT PRICE? YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU'VE KIND OF SELLING THE MANAGER AT RISK BECAUSE ONCE THEY HAVE A PRICE THAT'S LOCKED IN, SURE WE GET A BID FROM SOMEBODY. ARE THEY NOT LOCKED IN AT THAT PRICE TOO? YES, SIR, THEY ARE. SO THE THE DIFFERENCE COMES FROM THE, THE CONTRACT AND UNDER, LIKE DESIGN, BID BUILD, RIGHT? THEY'RE LOOKING AT PLANS, THEY'RE INTERPRETING THOSE PLANS, AND THEY'RE BIDDING BASED ON THAT. THEN IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S CONSTRUCTABILITY ISSUES, THE, AND THAT, THAT MEANS LIKE, WELL, WE, WE THOUGHT WE COULD RUN THESE THROUGH HERE AND THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH SPACE OR WE, WE NEED TO CHANGE THINGS ON THE FLY. THE, THE FOLKS WITH THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE, THE CMAR HAS BEEN A PART OF THAT AND HAVE HOPEFULLY IDENTIFIED AND RESOLVED ALL THAT BEFORE IT HAPPENS. SO THERE'S, THERE'S LESS OF THAT, THERE'S LESS OF THE CHANGE ORDER. BUT IF YOU'RE UNDER DESIGN BID BUILD, AND EITHER WE WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING OR SOMETHING IN THE DESIGN IS NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED AND IT'S GONNA COST THAT CONTRACTOR MORE. THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA STAND THERE WITH A, WITH THEIR HANDOUT ASKING FOR A CHANGE ORDER, RIGHTFULLY SO, BECAUSE THEY, THEY WENT IN UNDER ONE SET OF ASSUMPTIONS AND NOW IT'S, IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. WELL, YOU'VE HIT THE BIG ONE. YES, SIR. THE CHANGE ORDERS. YES SIR. AND THAT'S WHAT INFLATES THE PRICE OF THESE BUILDINGS DRAMATICALLY. SO THAT'S WHAT I, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO STAY AWAY FROM IS CHANGE ORDERS. BUT IF WE PUT A, IF WE PUT BLUEPRINTS OUT AND THEY COME IN WITH THE BID TO SAY THEY CAN DO THIS, IF THEY FIGURED OUT THEY, THERE'S A RAFTER IN THEIR WAY THAT'S ON THEM, WE DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION BID, THE ORIGINAL BLUEPRINT THAT SAID THIS IS THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BE. SO MY, MY ISSUE WITH ALL MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE BUILT IS THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN COME BACK TO A MUNICIPALITY AND THEY'LL GIVE THEM MORE MONEY, BUT JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY NEED MORE MONEY, UH, YOU CAN LOOK AT TRAINING FACILITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND THESE TYPE OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEING BUILT, AND THEY START OUT AT ONE PRICE AND THEY END UP AT THIS PRICE. AND THAT IS WHAT I AM DIGGING MY FEET IN, TRYING TO KEEP THIS FOR THE TAXPAYERS HERE RATHER THAN UP HERE. SO ANY KIND OF CHANGE ORDER WOULD HAVE TO BE AN EXTRAORDINARY EMERGENCY FOR US TO DO THAT, IN MY OPINION. YES, SIR. OKAY. AND WHEN IT, IT, SHOULD WE GO THIS MANAGER AT RISK ROUTE, DO WE BID THAT OUT TO DIFFERENT, SO THERE IS A BID PROCESS FOR THAT AS WELL? YES, SIR. OKAY. YES, SIR. SO DO WE HAVE ANY LOCAL COMPANIES THAT ARE QUALIFIED TO BUILD THIS BUILDING? I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE SOME LOCAL SURE. BUSINESSES, UH, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN ON THIS BUILD AND BID PROCESS. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHERE OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR GOVERNMENT PROCESSES, WHEN WE PUT THAT OUT, THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE INTERESTED, SOMETIMES THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT REASONS THEY MAY OR, OR MAY NOT, BUT I'VE, I'VE TALKED TO TWO THAT I KNOW ARE INTERESTED. OKAY, GOOD. LOCAL? YES, SIR. OKAY, GREAT. GREAT. AND THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THIS SAYING WE'VE GOT THIS COMPANY IN MIND, SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GOING, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT SUGGESTING OR ACCUSING US OF DOING THIS. I JUST DON'T WANT US TO GO INTO THIS SAYING WE HAVE THIS COMPANY IN MIND, SO WE ARE GOING TO TAILOR THE BID FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WELL AS I YES SIR. THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE BEST, NOT IN THIS TOWN. I'M NOT SUGGESTING HERE, BUT I WANT AN OPEN PROCESS. AND IF WE CAN, AND I, I WANT THIS TO COME IN FOR THE TAXPAYERS AT WHAT THEY SAID THEY CAN AFFORD BECAUSE WHAT THEY, WHAT WE HAVE ELECTED IN AS THAT IS AT THE TOP OF WHAT I FEEL, FEEL LIKE THIS TOWN CAN AFFORD ON THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING ON THIS AND, AND FOR ALL THE INFORMATION ON THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OF PROCESSES THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BILL. UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. BILL. BILL, HOW LONG HAVE YOU WORKED HERE, UH, IN ADDISON? SO I'VE WORKED HERE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR SEVEN YEARS AND THEN I'VE BEEN BACK WITH THE TOWN FOR EIGHT AFTER I FINISHED MY PUBLIC SAFETY CAREER. LIKED IT SO MUCH, I WANTED TO COME BACK. GOOD. WELL, GLAD YOU'RE BACK. SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW MANY, UM, CMC MARS HAVE YOU WORKED WITH OVER YOUR CAREER? [00:25:01] SO THE, UH, THIS ONE MM-HMM . UM, I BUILT A NUMBER OF FIRE STATIONS UNDER DESIGN, BID, BUILD MM-HMM . AND I'VE DONE A LOT OF REMODELS, WHICH CAN BE SOMEWHAT FL DEPENDING ON THE VALUE OF IT, THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO A CMAR MM-HMM . UH, OR FALL MORE IN LINE WITH A DESIGN BID BUILD. OKAY. AND CHIEF, COME BACK FOR ME. SO MY QUESTION IS, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU VISITED EVERY ONE OF, IF YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT, , YOU SAID YOU VISITED EVERY ONE OF THESE, UH, BUILDINGS? I HAVE NOT BETWEEN THE TEAM AND I, SO I HAVE PERSONALLY VISITED FIVE OF 'EM. UH, ASSISTANT CHIEF METZER, HE'S VISITED PROBABLY ALMOST ALL OF THEM ON THAT LIST. THERE'S A, A GROUP OF US THAT WE WENT AROUND, UM, VISITING ALL OF THE MOST RECENTLY BUILT, UM, UH, PROJECTS WITHIN THE, THE AREA. YEAH. SO KIND OF GOING BACK TO WHAT, UM, COUNCILMAN DAN WAS SAYING, WAS THERE ANY, ANY ORGANIZATION THAT STOOD OUT TO YOU? OR WAS THERE ANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU VISITED SAID, UH, WE HAD TO GO BACK AND FORTH, OR SOMETHING WENT WRONG? OH, ON ALL OF EM. AND I THINK NOBODY CAN SAY, PEOPLE SAY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT'S. PERFECT. RIGHT. UM, BUT I'LL SAY ONE THAT KIND OF STOOD OUT, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, ROANOKE, JUST BECAUSE OF THE SIZE, IT'S VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO ADDISON MM-HMM . SO WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THERE AND THEIR BUDGET WAS IN LINE, KIND OF WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO. MM-HMM . UM, SO THAT STOOD OUT. UM, LEWISVILLE WAS NEW, IS JUST A LARGER FACILITY, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY KIND OF PUT SOME THINGS IN THAT THEY THOUGHT WAS GREAT AT THE, THE ONSET, AND NOW ONCE THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO EXPERIENCE IT, THEY'RE LIKE, AH, THIS PROBABLY WASN'T THE BEST. SO WE MAKE NOTES OF THOSE. AND ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT BEING WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS IS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TALK WITH MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS AND CITIES AND LEARN FROM WHAT THEY'VE DONE, AND HOPEFULLY NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES THAT THEY'VE DONE AND KIND OF HAVE THE BEST PLAN GOING FORWARD. BUT YEAH, IN ALL THESE PROJECTS, THERE'S THINGS, THERE'S LESSONS TO BE LEARNED AND THERE'S GOOD THINGS TO TAKE FROM 'EM AS WELL. LIKE, HEY, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA. UH, WHETHER IT'S A LOCKER ROOM OR WORKOUT FACILITY OR A CERTAIN LAYOUT, LIKE WE'VE MADE NOTES OF THAT AND WE WILL HAVE THAT, THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR DESIGN TEAM WHEN IT GETS TO THAT POINT. 'CAUSE ALL GREAT IDEAS, BUT ULTIMATELY WE'RE BUILDING SOMETHING FOR ADDISON, SO OUR NEEDS ARE UNIQUE. MM-HMM . MIGHT NOT BE THE SAME AS WHAT SOME OF THESE OTHER AGENCIES HAVE, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT FITS WHAT WE NEED. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BILL THERE. CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE NINE? UH, WHAT, WHICH ONE OF THOSE MODELS GIVES THE BEST WARRANTY FOR ANY, UH, DEFECTS? THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE FAIRLY STANDARD. SO THE, THE, THE UNITS THAT YOU PUT IN, LIKE AN AIR CONDITIONER, SAY IT'S JUST MODEL OUT. I DON'T WANT TO CALL OUT A CERTAIN BRAND NAME, SAY THEY GIVE A 10 YEAR PARTS WARRANTY, ET CETERA. I MEAN, STEEL WORK, MACHINE WARRANTY, CONSTRUCTION WARRANTY. SO I, THAT'LL BE A PART OF THE, THE EVALUATION, UH, CRITERIA. UM, THEIR EXPERIENCE. UM, THE, UH, IF YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN ACTUALLY LATER TONIGHT ON ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE ITEMS WE'VE, WE'VE GOT AN EXAMPLE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, COLUMNS AND CATEGORIES WILL, AND PURCHASING DOES AN OUTSTANDING JOB OF WHEN WE PUT THAT OUT ON THE STREET, WE LAY OUT ALL THE CRITERIA, WHAT THE SCORING ARE, WHAT THE POINTS ARE, AND THOSE ARE TAILORED EACH TIME TO CAP, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE, THIS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THESE QUALITIES IN AN ORGANIZATION THAT THEY BUILT THINGS LIKE THIS BEFORE, THAT THEY HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION THAT THEY'VE DONE CERTAIN NUMBERS OF THESE TYPES. SO SOMEBODY THAT JUST COMES IN WITH A LOW PRICE AND NO EXPERIENCE MAY GET POINTS FOR THE PRICE, BUT NOT FOR THE EXPERIENCE. OR IT MIGHT GET THEY IF THEY'VE PRODUCED BUILDINGS ELSEWHERE, BUT WHEN WE DO THE REFERENCE CHECKS, THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, YEAH, STARTED HAVING ISSUES AND, YOU KNOW, YEAR THREE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A DIFFERENT, A LOWER SCORE THAN THE ONES THAT STOOD BY AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ISSUES AND, AND THOSE TYPE THINGS. SO WE HAVE TO LET LET SOME OF THAT PLAY OUT, UH, THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO WHICH OF THE METHODOLOGIES HAS A BETTER WARRANTY LIABILITY? UH, THERE, THAT'S NOT RELATED TO THE, THE METHOD USED, SIR. JUST WANTED TO, TO CHECK. YES, SIR. DIDN'T WANNA ASK YOU. YES, NO QUESTION. UM, ON SLIDE SIX, THAT'S THE CMAR, UM, ADVANTAGES, DISADVANTAGES. SO YOU HAVE A, UH, A CONFLICT BETWEEN QUALITY AND BUDGET SOMETIMES. UM, SO THEY HAVE TO EAT ANY OVERRUNS A CMAR DOES. UM, IT SEEMS LIKE IT PUTS THEM IN A CONFLICTING, UH, SITUATION IF THEY HAVE TO CUT A CORNER TO KEEP THEIR COST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HOW, HOW'S THAT RESOLVED? HOW'S THAT HANDLED? SURE. SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S SOLVED IN THE DESIGN PROCESS, UH, THAT YOU, THAT YOU, WE SPECIFY A, A, A SPECIFIC, UH, A LOT OF TIMES WHAT ARCHITECTS WILL DO IS SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SAY WE WANT THIS, THIS MAKE OR MODEL, AND THEY'LL TRY TO SLIP IN OR EQUIVALENT AND WE'LL SAY, NO, IT NEEDS TO BE THIS BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA TALK TO OUR OTHER [00:30:01] SYSTEMS ALREADY IN THE TOWN. WE ALREADY HAVE THE PARTS, LIKE SOUTHWEST FLIES A VERY SPECIFIC TYPE OF PLANE, RIGHT? SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO KEEP ALL THE DIFFERENT PARTS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO TRAIN THE MECHANICS. WE DO THE SAME THING WHEN WE'RE SPECKING THAT OUT AND WE WON'T ACCEPT AN EQUIVALENT. UH, WE MIGHT CONSIDER IT IF THEY COULD SOMEHOW SHOW OR PROVE THAT TO US, BUT WE'RE GONNA SAY WHAT WE WANT, THE MATERIALS THAT WE WANT, NOT JUST LEAVE IT OPEN TO WELL PUT IN ANY FLOORING THAT YOU WANT OR PUT IN ANY THICKNESS OF SHEET ROCK THAT YOU WANT. ALL OF THAT WILL BE DETAILED SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING. THEN IT'S REALLY JUST A MATTER OF DID THEY PROVIDE WHAT WE SPECIFIED AND IF NOT, THEY NEED TO MAKE IT. RIGHT. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I, YES. GOOD ENOUGH. THANK YOU. SO ON THE CMAR SELECTION, UM, HOW, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? CAN YOU GIVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THAT? SO YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL WORK WITH, UH, UH, THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AND WE'LL DEVELOP A REQUEST FOR, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S GONNA BE PROPOSALS OR QUALIFICATIONS. AND WE WILL IN GREAT DETAIL, SPELL OUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, WHAT THEIR RESPONSES NEED TO BE, WHAT THEY NEED TO SHOW US, PROVIDE US WHAT THAT SCORING CRITERIA IS. THEY'LL HAVE A SET AMOUNT OF TIME TO PROVIDE THEIR RESPONSES. THEN WE WILL GATHER THOSE UP. THE TIMELINE ENDS, WE SCORE THEM INDEPENDENTLY, AND AGAIN, WE, WE COME BACK TO YOU WITH THEN HERE'S WHAT WE SAW, HERE'S WHAT WE FOUND, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. AND THEN WE WOULD ENGAGE IN THAT. SO, UH, TO COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH, THERE'S, THERE'S A PRE-CONSTRUCTION COMPONENT MM-HMM . THAT WE ENGAGE WITH THEM ON IT, THEN THEY PROVIDE THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. AND IF FOR SOME REASON YOU WANT TO LET WAYS THERE, YOU COULD THEN ALMOST REVERT TO THE, UM, GOING OUT TO BID. OH, SO IT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, JUST BECAUSE THEY GOT THAT FIRST PART DOESN'T MEAN THEY ACTUALLY GET THE CONSTRUCTION. I SEE. SO THE TOWN IS, IF THE TOWN IS PROTECTED, THERE'S A PAUSE IN THE MIDDLE. SO IF, IF THINGS HAVE CHANGED, IF, IF WE'RE NOT HAVING A GOOD FEELING, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT JUST TOTALLY LOCKED IN, YOU DO THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE EXCEPT THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AND TELL THEM TO BID IT OR DON'T ACCEPT THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AND COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATE PLAN. SO THIS IS NOT IN CONCRETE WHAT WE'RE TALKING, IT'S, THERE IS PROCESS THAT WE CAN CHANGE ALONG THE WAY, SHOULD WE SURE. WE'RE, YEAH. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE DIRECTION OF THE METHODOLOGY THAT WE'RE GONNA USE. AND PART OF THAT IS THAT METHODOLOGY, SHOULD WE GO THAT WAY? ACTUALLY HAS A PAUSE IN THE MIDDLE IN CASE THINGS JUST AREN'T RIGHT. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE NINE AGAIN? THE, THE MATRIX. UM, SO, BUT ON THE SELECTION PROCESS, FIRST OF ALL, LIKE YOU SAID, WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM FURTHER IN THE AGENDA THAT HAS A MATRIX OF COST AND QUALITY AND ALL THOSE THINGS. YES, SIR. AND TIMELINES. SO THAT SIMILAR MATRIX IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE ATTRIBUTES THAT ARE APPLICABLE FOR YES, SIR. CMAR AND I, THE, THE CRITERIA WILL BE MORE SPELLED OUT TO SURE. HAVE YOU BUILT POLICE FACILITIES AND, AND THAT TYPE THING. GOOD. THAT'S REALLY GOOD TO KNOW. UM, ON THESE DIFFERENT METHODOLOGIES, UH, WHAT, HOW DO THEY DIFFER IN THE LOAD ON THE STAFF? SO THAT'S, THAT WAS THAT THIRD PART, RIGHT? THE DESIGN TEAM, THE, UM, CONSTRUCTION TEAM AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM MM-HMM . SO LIKE, YOU CAN, IF YOU GO WITH CMAR, BECAUSE ALL THAT WORK WAS DONE UP FRONT THERE, THERE'S LESS. AND THEY'VE DONE THE BIDDING NOT TOWN STAFF. THEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL MONITORING. WE HAVE WEEKLY MEETINGS. WE'RE DOING A LOT WITH THEM, BUT WE'RE NOT ALSO GETTING 50 BIDS ON SHEET ROCK AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS. SO THAT IS A PART OF WHAT THEY DO. AND ON THAT SLIDE, AGAIN, FULL TRANSPARENCY, YOU MENTIONED THAT, THAT THERE'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER ADMINISTRATIVE COST BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING SOME OF THAT. AND IF THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE CAPACITY TO DO THAT, WE'RE, WE'RE ENGAGING SOMEBODY ELSE. BUT THAT JUST BECOMES A PART OF THEIR ROLE AND THEY HAVE THAT INTEREST TO REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BIDDING AND PREPARING THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE HOOK FOR THAT GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. SO IF WE DID DESIGN BUILD OR DESIGN BID BUILD, WE WOULD HAVE, THERE WOULD BE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE OVERSIGHT THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM THE TOWN, PROBABLY HAVE TO HIRE SOME OTHER PROJECT. THERE MAY BE SOME, A PROJECT MANAGER OR, OR SOMEBODY ALONG THE, THE LINE IN THERE, OR A CONSULTANT TO WATCH AND TRACK AND ESTIMATE AND, AND MONITOR AND DO THAT WORK. SO THE, I THINK WE'VE ONLY U USED CMAR ONCE IN THE TOWN. AND THAT'S ON THIS REMODEL OF THIS BUILDING? YES, SIR. OKAY. I, I REMEMBER WHEN IT CAME UP LAST TIME, WE ASKED ALL THE SAME QUESTIONS, UM, AND, UH, IT, IT LOOKED LIKE THE RIGHT WAY. HOW DID THAT TURN OUT HERE? HOW DID THAT WORK FOR YOU? WERE YOU IN, UH, THE ADMINISTRATIVE CONTACT ON THAT? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO YEAH, THEY WERE, THEY WERE ON SCHEDULE AND WELL UNDER BUDGET. SO THE TWO THINGS I LIKE A LOT, WE LIKED THEM. SO ANY CHALLENGES WITH THAT PROJECT AND THE CMAR? UH, [00:35:01] NO. I MEAN, IT IS CHIEF ALLUDED TO NO CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS IT'S, YOU SEE THE FINISHED PRODUCT, BUT YOU'RE SEEING THE SAUSAGE MADE, RIGHT? SO THERE'S ALWAYS, THERE'S ALWAYS ISSUES IN A, IN A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, BUT WITH THE RIGHT TEAM, YOU WORK THROUGH 'EM AND SOLVE IT AND MOVE ON. I, I THINK THE CMAR IS, IS IS THE WAY TO GO FOR US, GIVEN ALL THE, WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR. BUT THANK YOU FOR YES, SIR. THE ANSWERS BILL, JUST FOLLOW UP ON WHAT DARREN'S QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING THROUGH THAT RFP PROCESS OR RFQ. UM, WHAT DOES THE, UH, UH, DUE DILIGENCE LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS CHECKING THE REFERENCES AND, AND WITH THE OTHER FOLKS THAT THESE, THESE, UH, UH, GROUPS HAVE WORKED WITH? SURE. SO IT, IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A SMALL COMMUNITY AND YOU KNOW, LIKE THE, LIKE THE LIST HERE AND, AND THE CHIEFS THAT HAVE VISITED ALL THESE, WE'RE LIKELY GONNA SEE SOME, THESE, THESE SAME PEOPLE. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO KNOW, WE WE'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT WE'LL, IN PURCHASING THERE'S SOME VERY STRICT PROCESSES. WE JUST CAN'T CALL OUR FRIEND OVER THERE AND ASK YOU. YOU, YOU HAVE TO DO IT THROUGH FOR, YOU KNOW, FORMAL CHANNELS. YEAH. BUT THERE'S, THERE'S WAYS TO DETERMINE IF, YOU KNOW, IF THESE WERE GOOD PROJECTS, IF THERE ARE ISSUES, WHAT THOSE WERE AND HOW, HOW YOU GO ABOUT IT IN A, IN A, IN AN APPROVED METHOD. OKAY. SO PRETTY LIKELY SOME OF THESE FIRMS WILL BE COMING TO SEE US. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU MARTIN. YEAH. BILL ON, AS FAR AS ADDISON AIRPORT, UM, I WAS THINKING WE USED A CMAR METHODOLOGY. YEAH, I ON THAT ONE. DO WE KNOW I, I TRIED TO LOOK AND, AND SEE, AND I, I'M SORRY, I I DIDN'T HAVE THE ANSWER. IF ANYBODY THAT WAS HERE KNOWS IF THAT OBJECTION, DO YOU REMEMBER? WE DID NOT. OKAY. THAT WAS PART OF THE PROBLEM. WE HAD A COUPLE CHANGE ORDERS AND THEY TURNED OUT PRETTY EXPENSIVE. RIGHT. OKAY. READY? THANK YOU. YEAH, THE CHANGE ORDERS ONCE AGAIN, IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID. AND I, I DON'T WANT US TO RUSH THIS PROJECT. I WANT US TO TAKE OUR TIME AND MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT TO, TO PREVENT THE CHANGE ORDERS THAT GOING, UM, IN MY EXPERIENCE WATCHING FIRE, BIG FIRE STATIONS AND THINGS BEING BUILT, WILL WE HAVE SOMEONE WITH THE TOWN THAT IS ON A REGULAR BASIS GOING TO THIS SITE AND MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS BEING DONE ACCORDING TO SPEC? AND I, AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT ELECTRICAL INSPECTIONS WHEN THE, IN, WHEN THE ELECTRICAL WORK IS DONE, I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY THAT COMES ON A REGULAR BASIS, OVERSEES THIS PROJECT FROM THE TOWN, PROTECTING OUR TOWN TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WHAT'S GOING ON IS SUPPOSED TO GO. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT AFFECTS WARRANTY WORK MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. MAKING SURE IT'S DONE RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. YES, SIR. SO THERE'S, UH, THERE'S MULTIPLE PROCESSES. SO DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WORD THE ARCHITECT'S, UH, CONTRACT AND AGREEMENT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE A PART OF THE WEEKLY MEETINGS. THEY'RE WALKING THE SITES, THEY'RE CHECKING THOSE, THOSE ITEMS. RIGHT. THERE'S PROCESSES CALLED COMMISSIONING WHERE YOU DON'T JUST TRUST THAT THE AIR CONDITIONERS, THEY PUT ON THE ROOF WORK. YOU, YOU BRING IN A PROFESSIONAL THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY DO AND THEY RUN THROUGH THAT SYSTEM AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE, UH, PROPERLY. UH, THEY DO THE TESTING, UH, THEY CHECK, I MEAN, THIS ONE FIRE STATION I BUILT, THEY, THEY TESTED LIKE THE TORQUE WRENCH ON THE LUGS ON THE, UM, ELECTRICAL. IT HAD, IT WAS ONE DAY OUT OF, UM, CERTIFICATION. SO THEY MADE 'EM REDO THE WHOLE PROCESS. SO THE, THE PEOPLE THAT DO THE COMMISSIONING, AND THAT'S A REALLY, IT'S MONEY WELL SPENT TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE INSTALLED, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NEW, IF THEY'RE NOT INSTALLED PROPERLY. UH, AND THEN YOU GET INTO JUST CONDITIONS, THE BUILDING, UH, IT'S, YOU CAN DESIGN IT AND ALL THIS THEORY, BUT THEN ONCE THE SUN HITS IT A CERTAIN WAY, MAYBE THINGS DON'T OPERATE EXACTLY AS DESIGNED. AND THOSE PEOPLE WILL COME IN AND HELP YOU ADJUST AND TWEAK AND MAXIMIZE AND, AND MAKE SURE I'M, I'M JUST REALLY INTERESTED IN SOMEONE FROM THE TOWN THAT TAKES AN INTEREST IN THIS PROJECT AND, AND OVERSEES IT. NOT, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT GOING THERE WITH THE TORQUE W RANCH. YEAH. BUT I'M, OKAY, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE, WE'RE ON SCHEDULE IF THIS IS GOING ON. YES. SO THE LAST ONE THAT I DEALT WITH WAS A FIRE STATION THAT ONCE WE MOVED IN, THE COCKROACHES WERE SO BAD THAT WE HAD TO VACATE THE BUILDING FOR TWO YEARS TILL THEY FIGURED OUT WHERE THE COCKROACHES WERE COMING FROM AND THEY WERE COMING FROM CARDBOARD THAT WAS WRAPPED AROUND THE PYLONS THAT WENT DOWN IN THE GROUND FOR THE FOUNDATION, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN OFF. I MEAN, THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE, THE PROBLEM IN THERE. SURE. SO A, A TOWN PROJECT MANAGER, SO WE HAD TO GO IN ANYWAY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THIS TOWN IS INVOLVED TO, SIR, MAKE SURE PUNCH LISTS ARE BEING DONE AND WILL WE HAVE SOMEONE WITH A FINAL PUNCH LIST THAT IF THERE, IF THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE PUNCH LIST THAT'S NOT DONE, WE'RE NOT MOVING IN. I, I, I WANT, [00:40:01] I WANT THIS PROJECT DONE RIGHT. FOR THE PEOPLE AND FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, THAT IS, THERE'S ALWAYS, SO THERE'S A PROCESS CALLED RETAINAGE. SO YOU HOLD BACK UNTIL THAT PUNCH LIST IS EXHAUSTED. UH, SOMETIMES THERE'S PRESSURE TO MOVE IN IF, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S ON THE PUNCH LIST, HOW MINOR IT IS, IF IT'S, IF IT'S SIGNAGE, IF IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AV EQUIPMENT, YOU, YOU MAY WANT TO MOVE IN WHILE YOU'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S COMING THAT, THAT GOT STUCK IN TARIFFS OR, OR WHATEVER. AND IT'LL BE HERE IN A MONTH AND YOU WANNA HAVE A WHOLE $50 MILLION BILLING SITTING THERE EMPTY BECAUSE YOU'RE WAITING ON ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE LITTLE THING. SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF COMMON SENSE INVOLVED IN THAT. BUT DON'T ACCEPT IT IF IT'S NOT WORKING. YES. DON'T ACCEPT IT IF IT IS. NO. 'CAUSE ONCE YOU, ONCE YOU TAKE POSSESSION OF IT. CORRECT. IT'S REALLY HARD TO MAKE IT. RIGHT. THAT'S MY, SO YES. RIGHT THERE IS THE POINT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE. ONCE YOU MOVE IN, YOU'VE BOUGHT IT. YEP. SO DON'T ACCEPT. AND I WAS CERTAINLY NOT SUGGESTING WHEN IN THE BID PROCESS THAT THE TOWN GET INVOLVED WITH BIDDING THE SIZE OF SHEET ROCK. SURE. AND, AND THE, UH, LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S NOT AT ALL WHAT I WAS, I'M TALKING ABOUT YES, SIR. THE ARCHITECTS, THE GENERAL CONTRACTORS THAT ARE GONNA BE IN CHARGE OF THAT. THAT'S THE BID PROCESS THAT I WOULD LIKE. AND YOU DO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE ON THIS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO. SO. SORRY TO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. IT SEEMED TO ME LIKE, CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE NINE AGAIN, THE MATRIX, IT SEEMED LIKE, UH, THERE WAS, UH, SOME, SOME COST ADVANTAGES TO THE CMAR, EVEN THOUGH THEY, THEY INCLUDE THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE AND, AND, AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SIDE OF IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE RELATIONSHIPS WITH, UM, SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS AND THEY CAN GET THE BETTER BIDS. THEY DO THIS FOR A LIVING. UM, HOW, HOW DOES EACH OF THOSE, UH, FOUR, UH, LINE UP AS FAR AS KIND OF THE BETTER, THE LOWER COST OR THE SAME WORD? UH, YOU KNOW, THE, I THINK THE, THEY ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU PICK, RIGHT, DESIGN BUILD, MAYBE YOU JUST GET AN OUT, YOU KNOW, AN OUTSTANDING ONE. AND, BUT THE, I THINK THE KEY BENEFIT COMES FROM THE DESIGN AND THE CONTRACTOR WORKING TOGETHER FROM THE BEGINNING. UM, YOU, YOU JUST HAVE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO IDENTIFY THINGS AND TO IDENTIFY SAVINGS AND OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO MAXIMIZE THE EFFICIENCY OF, OF THAT BUILDING. AND THEN THAT CONTRACTOR KNOWS THOSE SPECS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE WHEN THEY THEN WORK WITH THEIR SUBS. AND THEN THE SUBS ALSO KNOW IT'S A CITY PROJECT AND CITIES ARE ULTIMATELY GONNA PAY, WHEREAS MAYBE A PRIVATE, SOMETHING HAPPENS, THE COMPANY HAS ISSUES. SO YOU GET BETTER PRICING THAT THAT WAY. SO I, I, I'M GONNA STOP SHORT OF SAYING SMAR WILL GET YOU A BETTER OR THE BEST PRICE, BUT IT, IT HAS A LOT OF ADVANTAGES THAT LEAD YOU IN THAT DIRECTION. AND WHAT I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON, IT DOES LOOK LIKE YOU END UP DOING, GETTING, YOU CAN GET MUCH A BETTER VALUE ON THE CMAR THAN YOU WOULD THINK, EVEN THOUGH IT INCLUDES THAT OVERHEAD OF ADMINISTRATION. WELL, THERE, SOMEBODY'S GOTTA DO THAT WORK AND SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET PAID TO DO IT. YOU'RE JUST ROLLING THAT IN AND PULLING IT FORWARD. I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO, UH, WHILE WE'VE BEEN TALKING, I JUST DID A REAL QUICK SEARCH, LIKE WHO WAS THE CMAR FOR THE EDISON AIRPORT BUILDING AND IT SAID THERE WASN'T, AND THEN IT DIRECTED ME TO A PRESENTATION AND THE PRESENTATION WAS GIVEN TO COUNCIL WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL. IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE, SO I'VE FORGOTTEN IT. BUT LESSONS LEARNED. OKAY. AND I'M SURE GQ DROVE THIS, BUT, UM, BASICALLY IT SAYS WE SHOULD HAVE USED A SMAR. AND I JUST, I JUST EMAILED IT TO YOU, DAVID, SO I HOPE YOU CAN SHARE IT WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL. BUT IT'S JUST, THERE'S A SLIDE HERE THAT SAYS INACCURATE COST ESTIMATING, SEPARATE WORK PACKAGES, CREATED CONTRACT DOCUMENTS, CON CONFLICTS, CLASS CLASH DETECTION, NEEDED, UH, TECHNOLOGY OUTPACE OUTPACING THE PROJECT. SO, UH, IT'S JUST KINDA INTERESTING GOING BACK IN TIME AND, UH, GOING THROUGH THIS LESSONS LEARNED. I'M GLAD WE DID THAT. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T DO THAT VERY OFTEN, DO WE? UM, SO IT'S, WE SHOULD DO IT EVERY TIME. HELPFUL. LEARN FROM OUR OWN MISTAKES OR THE MISTAKES OF OTHERS, PREFERABLY. ALRIGHT, WELL, WELL I'M CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SMAR METHODOLOGY. DARREN, YOU SAID YOU WERE ALSO NODDING HEADS DOWN HERE. YES. YEAH, I AM TOO. YEAH. RANDY, I THINK THAT OKAY. YOU GOT THE DIRECTION YOU NEED THEN. YES. YES SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU BILL. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. REALLY NICE JOB. ALRIGHT, [b. Present and discuss potential amendments to the Unified Development Code (UDC).] ITEM FOUR B, PRESENT AND DISCUSS POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE UDC, LESLIE KNIGHT. GOOD EVENING. LESLIE KNIGHT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. UM, SO WE'RE BRINGING THE UDC BACK, UM, BEFORE YOU TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF, UM, CHANGES AND AMENDMENTS TO THE DOCUMENT THAT, UM, HAVE COME UP THROUGH, UM, OUR EVALUATION [00:45:01] PROCESS OF THESE AMENDMENTS. AND WE DIDN'T, UH, WE KIND OF RECEIVED SOME CONFLICTING FEEDBACK, SO WE WANTED TO BRING FORWARD, UM, A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO GET SOME, SOME FURTHER DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON, ON HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED. SO, UM, WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE IS WE DID A, OUR LAST WORK SHIFT SESSION WITH COUNCIL ON AUGUST 11TH, AND THEN WE TOOK IT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON AUGUST 18TH. UM, AND IT OBVIOUSLY WAS, UM, AVAILABLE IN THE PACKET. SO WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED SOME, UH, COMMENTS VIA EMAIL FROM RESIDENTS AS WELL. SO WE APPRECIATE THEM READING THE RED LINE AND GIVING, UM, FEEDBACK. SO THIS IS KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF SOME OF THOSE CHANGES THAT YOU'LL, UM, SEE IN THE RED LINE, UM, THAT WE RECEIVED FEEDBACK I MENTIONED WE'VE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM, SOME STAFF MEMBERS, UH, AS AND AS WELL AS SOME RESIDENTS. SO, UH, ONCE AGAIN, UM, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH ALL THOSE, THOSE AT GREATER DETAIL. BUT LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE, UM, DEPENDING ON THE FEEDBACK THIS EVENING, WE PLAN TO TAKE FORWARD ANOTHER WORK SESSION WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON THURSDAY THE 10TH. AND THEN WE WOULD ANTICIPATE COMING BACK, UM, BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL FOR, UM, POTENTIAL, UH, CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDMENTS IN OCTOBER AND EARLY NOVEMBER. UM, SO ONE OF THOSE, UM, UM, ITEMS THAT WE RECEIVED, UM, SOME DIFFERING FEEDBACK ON WAS THE PARKS OVERLAY DISTRICT. UM, SO JUST WANNA TOUCH ON THIS QUICKLY. SO QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PARKS OVERLAY DISTRICT IS OVERLAY ON TOP OF ANY EXISTING PARKS, UM, REPRESENTATIVE WITH SOME, UM, UNIQUE SYMBOLOGY. AND, UM, ONE, SOME FEEDBACK WE GOT WAS THE PROPOSAL WE HAD BROUGHT FORWARD IN AUGUST. IT WAS, UM, COULD BE CONFUSING AND CUMBERSOME FOR STAFF TO TRY TO ADMINISTER, UM, PARTICULARLY IN SITUATIONS WHERE, UM, IT WAS POTENTIALLY A MAINTENANCE ITEM OR A SAFETY ITEM. SO, UH, WE KIND OF WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND LOOKED AT SOME ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS. SO WANTED TO, TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON IF THIS IS SOMETHING, UM, YOU'D LIKE US TO PURSUE OR A VARIATION OF THIS. UH, SO INSTEAD OF ALL OF THE CRITERIA WE REVISITED, UM, THE LAND USE QUESTION AND PROPOSED ONLY ALLOWING A VERY SPECIFIC SET OF, UH, APPROPRIATE, EXCUSE ME, APPROVED USES AND REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ALL OTHER USES. UH, SO WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, AND SORRY, HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HYPOTHETICALLY WHAT THE OVERLAY WOULD LOOK LIKE TO, TO GIVE YOU SOME VISUALIZATION OF THAT ON THE MAP. UM, BUT WHAT THAT PROPOSAL WOULD LOOK LIKE IS, UM, A MUCH MORE CONDENSED PARKS OVERLAY SAYING THAT THE ONLY USES THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED, UM, OR A VARIATION OF THIS WOULD BE ACTIVE AND PASSIVE PARK OR OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION FACILITY, UM, INDOOR OR OUTDOOR. ANY OTHER USE, UM, WOULD REQUIRE A ZONING APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONING COUNCIL. UM, SO THAT IS DISCRETIONARY REVIEW PROCESS. UM, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE NOTICED AND GO AS I MENTIONED, UH, TO PNZ IN COUNCIL AND THERE WOULD BE PUBLIC HEARINGS, UM, SO THAT IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THIS OR A VARIATION OF THIS, UM, AND ELIMINATING SOME OF THE OTHER CRITERIA THAT COULD, UM, POTENTIALLY CAUSE CONFUSION DURING THE ADMINISTRATION PROCESS. SO, AND THEN HERE IS WHAT, THESE ARE THE CURRENT DEFINITIONS UNDER THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. UM, I ALSO WOULD WANNA REITERATE, WE COULD CHANGE THIS, WE COULD MODIFY USES HYPOTHETICALLY, UM, IF WE WANTED TO BUT WANTED TO PROVIDE THESE, UH, FOR YOU IS WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. UM, GUESS DO WE WANNA HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM FIRST AND THEN WE CAN JUMP FORWARD TO ANY OTHER CHANGES? SURE. QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE. RANDY? THANK YOU. LET ME JUST REITERATE MY WHOLE ISSUE WITH, WITH THE ZONING MAP THAT WE HAD, ALL I WANT IS TO PROTECT OUR PARKS. MM-HMM . HAVE A GREEN SYMBOL OVER OUR PARKS DESIGNATING AS PARK. I DON'T WANT IT DESIGNATED AS R ONE, R TWO, M FOUR, WHATEVER. I DON'T WANT ANY OTHER, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AS TO WHAT I WOULD WANT. I DON'T WANT ANY OTHER ZONING ACTIVITY TO EVEN INDICATE FOR ANYONE TO CONSTRUE THAT AN APARTMENT OR A HOUSE COULD BE BUILT ON THAT OR A RESTAURANT. MM-HMM . GOING FORWARD, I, I WOULD JUST LIKE, AND, AND I CERTAINLY DID NOT MEAN TO COMPLICATE NO ANY ISSUE WITH MAINTENANCE [00:50:01] IN THE PARKS. IF A BENCH NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, A BENCH NEEDS TO BE REPLACED WITHOUT COMING BEFORE COUNSEL AND HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING. CERTAINLY NOT MY INTENT. AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS MISCONSTRUED MISCOMMUNICATED, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS, BUT IT IS NOT MY INTENT TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT ON STAFF TO MAINTAIN OUR PARKS. I JUST WANT IT MADE MORE DIFFICULT FOR STAFF AND COUNCIL AND FUTURE COUNCILS TO DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH PARKLAND AND RECREATIONAL LAND OTHER THAN PARK AND RECREATIONAL LAND. SIMPLE. AND I, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN MAKE IT ANY MORE SIMPLE THAN JUST PUT A GREEN MARK OVER IT AND SAY IT'S A PARK. SO I, MY INTENTION WAS NOT TO COMPLICATE THINGS AND I I I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU. IS THAT, IS THAT POSSIBLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT THAT SIMPLY, I MEAN I THINK THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THIS SOLUTION IS. OKAY. YES. WE CAME BACK AND SAID, HEY, THE OTHER OVERLAY WAS VERY COMPLICATED. YEAH. BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE HEARD, WE CAME BACK, HERE'S A, HERE'S ONE THAT'S NOT AS COMPLICATED. LITERALLY YOU JUST LOOK AT THE MAP, YOU SEE IT'S A PARK. IT CAN ONLY WAY IT CANNOT BE, IT'S A PARK IS IF YOU GO THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE WHOLE PROCESS. OKAY. YEAH. 'CAUSE 'CAUSE FOR ME, UH, ONCE WE STARTED LOOKING AT RED LINES AND ALL THE THIS, AND I GET A LITTLE BIT LOST AND SO, SO I'D RATHER JUST, THE BOTTOM LINE ON THIS IS IF, IF IT COULD BE DONE SIMPLY WHERE EVERYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, SATISFIED WITH THE PROTECT THE PARKS ARE PROTECTED. THAT'S WHERE I'M, I'M WITH RANDY ON THAT. I'D JUST RATHER KEEP IT, KEEP IT REALLY SIMPLE. AND IF THIS DOES THAT, I'M GOOD TO GO WITH IT. IT, IT, IT, YOU COULD, YOU COULD LEAD WITH THAT. THIS ACCOMPLISHES WHAT WE'RE WANTING AND GO HOME . ALRIGHT. EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? GOOD. THAT, DOES THIS ACCOMPLISH THAT? IS THAT GENERALLY YES. SO IT LIMITS IT TO THOSE USES AND ANYTHING ELSE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO PNC AND COUNCIL? SO WHEN WE LOOK AT A MAP, THERE WON'T BE AN R ONE IN A PARK. WELL, SO IT'S AN, IT'S FOUR IN A PARK. IT'S AN OVERLAY DISTRICT. SO I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA, UM, MISSPEAK, BUT THE SYMBOLOGY IS NOT WHAT IS CODIFIED. SO IF YOU, IF YOU WANT THE PARKS TO BE ANY COLOR YOU WANT, WE COULD MAKE THEM, I LOVE GREEN, BUT WE COULD MAKE THEM GREEN. THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. 'CAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY LETTERS INDICATING WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE. IT JUST LEADS TO CONFUSION AND PANIC IN THE PUBLIC. WHEN THEY LOOK AT A PARK AND IT SAYS M FOUR IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, WHAT CAN HAPPEN AND WAS, WAS MY COMMENT. WHAT I DON'T, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THIS COUNSEL, I'M WORRIED ABOUT 1 25 YEARS FROM NOW. AND I JUST TO BE REALLY, 'CAUSE WE WENT THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION A YEAR AGO NOW IT IS STILL GONNA HAVE THOSE M FOUR, IT'S GONNA HAVE THOSE LETTERS UNDERNEATH, BUT NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THIS OVERLAY ON IT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT A MAP, YOU'RE JUST GONNA SEE THE GREEN. BUT I, I DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT IT'S STILL NOT GONNA HAVE THAT UNDERLYING ZONING. THE OVERLAY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A MAP, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE GREEN IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE. AND THERE'S THIS ADDED PROTECTION YOU GET WITH THE OVERLAY. YEAH, THE OVERLAY AS FAR AS, UM, THE CODE SUPERSEDES WHAT IS BENEATH IT. WHY DO WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THOSE LETTERS EVEN UNDERNEATH IT? IF YOU, WE WENT THROUGH A, THAT PRESENTATION, WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND I ARGUED ABOUT IT A YEAR AGO. MM-HMM . SO TELL ME WHAT, TELL ME WHAT I'M MISSING. WE GOT COUNCIL DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT WAS THE DIRECTION COUNSEL GAVE WAS TO CREATE AN OVERLAY. AND THAT'S, WELL I GET THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE IS AN OVERLAY THAT'S, THAT PROTECTS THAT. BUT THEY'RE STILL THE, THERE'S STILL THE M FOUR, THE R ONES UNDERNEATH THE OVERLAY. YEAH. AND, AND OKAY. BUT IT SUPERSEDES THE PARK. THE OVERLAY SUPERSEDES WHATEVER'S BELOW IT OR YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? AND, AND YES. AM I SATISFIED ? I BELIEVE SO. PROTECT OUR PARKS TO THE DEGREE. YES. THIS WILL BE A FIRST YEAR IN PROTECTION. IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? I WANNA PROTECT PARKS TOO. I THINK THIS DOES THAT. SO I'M SATISFIED WITH THAT. OKAY. YEAH. SO I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. OH, NO, I, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND THE MAYOR. I WANT TO PROTECT OUR PARKS AS WELL. BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT OTHER, WHAT DON'T, DON'T, DON'T EITHER. DON'T EITHER. . SO YES. WHAT YOU GOT IT? YES. YEAH. SO, UM, AS FAR AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PARKS AND THEIR, THEY'RE DEFINED, LESLIE, LIKE EACH PARK IS GONNA BE DEFINED ONE OF MAYBE ONE OF FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES OF PARKS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO. SO THESE, SO THESE USES, UM, UNDER PERMITTED USES, THE, THE ACTIVE AND PASSIVE PARK AND OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION FACILITY, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR. THOSE ARE ALREADY USES DEFINED WITHIN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. UM, IF WE WANNA TWEAK THOSE DEFINITIONS FOR THE OVERLAY, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT. UM, THAT'S SOMETHING [00:55:01] WE COULD EASILY, UM, UM, DRAFT. UM, BUT THESE WOULD BE, THESE USES, THESE FOUR USES WOULD BE THE ONLY THINGS THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED, UM, BY, RIGHT WITHIN THE PARK OVERLAY. SO ANY PARK LAND, UM, COULD ONLY BE THESE FACILITIES. SO, UM, AN EXAMPLE IS, LET'S SAY THAT, SO, UM, JAVA HOPS WOULD THEN HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THEY WANTED TO COME IN, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL. UM, BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT, UM, BE ONE OF THOSE USES. IT WOULD, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO GET SPECIAL PERMISSION. OKAY. AND SO RIGHT NOW DO WE HAVE A LIST OF, OF ALL OF OUR VARIOUS PARKS AND HOW THEY'RE CLASSIFIED? SO, SO THIS, THIS SOLUTION MOVES AWAY FROM THAT METHODOLOGY. IT'S NOT GONNA CALL OUT INDIVIDUAL PARK, IT'S JUST GONNA SAY EVERYTHING IN THE GREEN IS A PARK. IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS FOR EACH PARK. OKAY. HERE, HERE'S MY CONFUSION IS WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT PARTICULAR PARKS WHICH ARE JUST SMALL LITTLE, UH, PARK, UH, POCKET PARKS. UM, AND THEY'RE PASSIVE IN NATURE. AND SO I DON'T WANT US TO CHANGE THAT WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF, UH, UH, PROCESS. I DON'T WANNA JUST CALL IT THIS VAGUE THING LIKE IT'S A PARK. AND BECAUSE, UM, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH CHANGE, IF YOU CHANGE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, AND THE BEST EXAMPLE IS, UH, IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH ADDISON, UH, ADDISON CIRCLE, RIGHT? YOU, YOU CAN CHANGE IT FROM, UH, WHAT IT IS NOW TO THIS ACTIVE, REALLY ACTIVATED PARK LIKE CLYDE WARREN. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S GOOD OR BAD, BUT IT IS A, IT'S A, IT'S A CHANGE. SO, UM, I, I DON'T WANT THAT, UM, I WANT, UNLESS IT GOES THROUGH SOME PROCESS, I WANT, I WANT LIKE A A, A PASSIVE PARK TO BE A PASSIVE PARK. UNLESS WE, WE, UH, WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF PUBLIC HEARING AND PEOPLE CAN, CAN SPEAK UP AND, AND SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS. AND COUNSEL CAN MAKE A DECISION IF WE WANT TO CHANGE, UH, CHANGE THE WHOLE LOOK AND FEEL OF, UH, WHATEVER THE PARK, THEY JUST KIND OF FEEL LIKE, I CERTAINLY DON'T, I CERTAINLY WANT THESE DESIGNATED AS WELL TO PREVENT THE SOCCER LEAGUE FROM COMING BACK IN AND GETTING INTO MY PARK AND HAVING SOCCER LEAGUES IN MY PARK BECAUSE THAT'S NOT AN ATHLETIC PARK. I LIKE THE DESIGNATION OF POCKET PARK, ATHLETIC FIELD, THAT TYPE THING. AND I DID NOT REALIZE THAT HAD BEEN TAKEN OUT WITH THIS. I LOOK, IF WE GO DOWN THAT ROUTE, WE'RE JUST GONNA END UP BACK WHERE WE WERE WITH A VERY CUMBERSOME PROCESS. MM-HMM . WE HAVE, WELL, IF WE WANNA MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO A PARK, WE HAVE A PROCESS TO DO THAT. IF COUNCIL WANTS TO COME UP WITH A NEW PROCESS THAT SAYS ANY NEW, ANY NEW PARK WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO DO X, Y, AND Z. WE COULD DO OUR OWN PUBLIC INPUT PUBLIC, WE CAN COME UP WITH A NUMBER OF PROCESSES AND IF COUNCIL DECIDES THEY WANT TO GO BACK TO, TO THE MORE CUMBERSOME PROCESS WE CAN. BUT ANY, ANY, ONCE WE START DESIGNATING WHAT TYPES OF PARKS YOU'RE GONNA END UP IN THE SPOT THAT WE WORE WITH THE PREVIOUS DRAFT, PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THAT MAKES IT MORE CUMBERSOME JUST TO DESIGNATE A PARK, AN ATHLETIC PARK, OR A POCKET PARK. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, A FAIRLY LARGE SPACE IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR PARK IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'S NOT AN ATHLETIC FIELD. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE COMING IN WANTING TO HAVE SOCCER LEAGUES IN OUR PARK. AND THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY PRODUCED THE, IF YOU'RE, IF THERE'S MORE THAN 19 OR 20, YOU GOTTA HAVE A PERMIT. RIGHT. MY, THERE ARE, THAT IS GREAT FOR US TO DEFINE 'EM AND HAVE REGULATION FOR THE PARKS. AND WE CAN DO THAT IN, IN GREAT METHODS, BUT DOING IT IN ZONING ISN'T NECESSARILY THE BEST WAY. WE CAN DO THAT IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS. ONCE YOU, AND THAT'S EVEN SUGGESTION. WE DO IT IN ZONING. I'M, I'M JUST ASKING THAT, BUT I AGREE WITH EVERYTH FIGURE. WE SHOULD DO ALL THOSE THINGS. OUR, THIS CONVERSATION WOULD BE TO TAKE THAT OUT OF THE ZONING, THE ZONING'S BASICALLY SAYING, IF YOU WANT THIS TO NOT BE A PARK, YOU GOTTA GO THROUGH A PUBLIC CARRYING AND ZONING. WE CAN COME UP WITH WHATEVER PROCESS WE WANT. WELL, WHAT KIND EASY PROCESS TO DESIGNATE OUR GREEN SPACES, WHAT THEY ARE A WALKING TRAIL, AN ATHLETIC FIELD, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ATHLETIC FIELDS. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY OF THOSE. WELL, I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT'S THE ISSUE BECAUSE THEY'RE USING SOME OF OUR PARKS AS ATHLETIC FIELDS. WELL, IF IT'S IN THE ZONING, THEY DON'T CARE WHAT THAT IS. THEY'RE GONNA DO IT UNTIL SOMEBODY TELLS THEY CAN. AND WE HAVE, WE ALREADY HAVE REGULATIONS AGAINST THAT AND WE DO POLICE THAT WHEN WE SEE IT. SO THERE'S JUST, THERE'S MANY AVENUES FOR US TO POLICE THOSE SO THAT, THAT WILL STILL BE IN PLACE. BUT WHAT I HEARD WHILE AGO THAT WAS ALL BEING TAKEN OUT JUST OF THE ZONING. IS THAT NOT WHAT YOU HEARD? JUSTIN'S ZONING. THEY'RE STILL OKAY. I THINK WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO. THE CONVERSATION A YEAR AGO WAS, WE DON'T WANT OUR PARKS BEING SOLD. WE DON'T WANT OUR PARKS BEING DEVELOPED. AND I THINK THIS DOES IT. I AGREE. EVERYTHING ELSE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PART OF THE ZONING. WE CAN, I JUST DON'T WANT MISUSED EITHER, IS ALL MY POINT. WELL, CAN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SECTION'S? NOT PLEASE. OKAY, [01:00:01] LESLIE, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER CHANGES AND THEN ONE OTHER ITEM, UM, SEEKING SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL. SO, UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF A AMEND ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS TO ARTICLE THREE THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE RED LINE, UM, IS PARTICULAR TO THE AIRPORT. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE PARK OVERLAY AS WE JUST PRESENTED. UM, THE, THE NEXT ITEM FOR POTENTIAL CHANGE AS WE RECEIVE SOME FEEDBACK, UM, PROPOSING TO, UH, RESTORE AND OR MODIFY, UH, THE LAND USE PERMISSIONS FOR, UM, HOOKAH ESTABLISHMENTS. UM, TODAY THEY'RE CURRENTLY ALLOWED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UM, AND WITH SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS AND PROVISIONS. AND SO WE WANTED TO BRING THAT FORWARD AND HAVE, UM, SOME, SOME DIALOGUE ABOUT WHAT THOSE CHANGES COULD BE. UM, SO BASED UPON THE FEEDBACK, UM, STAFF HAS, UM, PROPOSED, WELL, NOT NECESSARILY PROPOSED, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF THE CONVERSATION, UM, IS PRESENTING, ADDING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. AND THIS IS A CHANGE FROM THE PREVIOUS PROHIBITION PROPOSAL AND ADDING SOME SPECIAL USE, UH, EXCUSE ME, SOME SPECIAL USE STANDARDS, UM, LIMITING THE HOURS OF OPERATION TO 11:00 PM THEY CAN'T OPERATE BEYOND THAT. IT MUST BE A STANDALONE BUILDING. UM, AND THERE MUST BE A SEPARATION REQUIREMENT, MEANING YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN ONE, UM, HOOKAH ESTABLISHMENT WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET. UM, WE COULD, UM, HYPOTHETICALLY ALSO MODIFY THE ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT COULD BE REQUESTED FOR A HOOKAH ESTABLISHMENT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU COULD REMOVE THAT ALLOWANCE FROM, UH, COMMERCIAL LIMITED AND COMMERCIAL GE GENERAL. AND YOU COULD ONLY, UM, COULD ONLY EVEN BE REQUESTED IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AS AN EXAMPLE. UM, AND THEN JUST TO, TO UM, ADD TO THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE, UH, IT WAS ALSO REQUESTED THAT SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL SPECIAL USE STANDARDS THAT WERE BEING APPLIED TO A HOOKAH ESTABLISHMENT BE APPLIED TO THE CIGAR LOUNGE. UH, SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO, UH, REQUIRE THE FIL FILTRATION SYSTEM AS WELL FOR THE CIGAR LOUNGE AS WELL AS THE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT. UM, BUT I WOULDN'T ACCEPT ANY FEEDBACK ON THE, THE HOOKAH ESTABLISHMENT MODIFICATION. SO LESLIE, UM, WOULD THESE ONLY, WOULD, WOULD THESE ONLY APPLY TO FUTURE USES? NOT ANYTHING ELSE WOULD CURRENTLY BE GRANDFATHERED? YES. UM, AS FAR FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, YES. OPERATIONAL STANDARDS, UM, THEY MAY, UM, HAVE TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, REQUIRING AN INSPECTION EVERY SIX MONTHS, UH, WE COULD, UH, REQUIRE THAT, UM, ESSENTIALLY IMMEDIATELY UPON, UH, UM, ADOPTION IF, IF THAT WERE TO BE ADOPTED. BUT WOULD THE, UH, AS FAR AS THE FILTRATION SYSTEM, IF THEY DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THE APPROPRIATE ONE, THEY COULD, UH, REMAIN AS IS AND THEY WOULD BE LEGAL NON-CONFORMING UNTIL THEY MODIFIED, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING, COME INTO COMPLIANCE. OKAY. THANK YOU DAN. THANK YOU, LESLIE. UM, CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE WITH THE CIGAR LOUNGE? YES. WHY ARE WE NOT REQUIRING THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION TO MIRROR THE HOKA LOUNGES TILL 11:00 PM? UM, THAT WAS NOT FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED. UM, BE HAPPY TO ADD THAT AS A SPECIAL YOUTH STANDARD. I'LL CHECK WITH COUNSEL, BUT I, I WOULD JUST ASSUME WE WOULD MIRROR WHAT HOKAS ARE. CIGAR SHOULDN'T BE AN EXCEPTION, IN MY OPINION. IF THEY'RE SMOKING LOUNGES, THEY SHOULD STAY OPEN UNTIL 11:00 PM NEVER, NEVER HEARD IT COME UP AT ALL. WE, WE MIGHT HAVE ONE THAT SERVES FOOD THAT MIGHT MAKE IT MORE OF A RESTAURANT AND A CIGAR BAR. AND THAT REALLY LEADS INTO MY, MY QUESTION, LIKE, I, I PROBABLY SHOULD KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT IF ANYONE IS WANTING TO COME INTO TOWN AND THEY SAY, I I WANT, I'M OPENING UP A BAR OR A HOOKAH OR A CIGAR LOUNGE, DO WE STILL HAVE THE REQUIREMENT WHERE YOU'VE YOU'VE GOTTA BUILD OUT A GREASE TRAP, YOU'VE GOTTA SELL FOOD AND FOOD SALES NEED TO BE A PERCENTAGE OF REVENUE. YEAH. SO WE, ARE WE REQUIRING THAT STILL? SO IT'S NOT, UM, I WOULD, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A REQUIREMENT IN THE CODE. UM, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, UM, WE, WE PUSH THAT VERY HARD. UM, 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE, IN ADDISON, YOU CANNOT, UM, SELL ALCOHOL AS A STANDALONE USE. YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE, UM, A FOOD AND BEVERAGE PERMIT ALONG WITH YOUR TABC LICENSE. UM, HOWEVER, WITH CIGAR LOUNGES AND HOOKAH BARS, THOSE COULD BE CONSIDERED AS A PRIMARY USE. HOWEVER, I CAN TELL YOU, UM, THAT THAT IS A PART OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT EVALUATION PROCESS THAT WE'RE REQUIRING A GREASE TRAP, THE INVESTMENT OF AN GREASE TRAP AND, AND THE SALE OF FOOD THAT WE YES. MM-HMM . OKAY. [01:05:02] SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT CONSIDER I'M TO CLARIFY IF IT'S A RESTAURANT, I THINK WE'RE TALKING CHRIS, ABOUT THE SAME PLACE. TWIN PEAKS RESTAURANT, CIGAR LOUNGE ACCOMPANIES THAT, THAT PROPERTY, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH FOOD? LET'S, WE DON'T NEED TO NAME NAMES. OKAY. YEAH, BUT I, I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE POINT IS IF IT'S A RESTAURANT THAT HAS A CIGAR COMPONENT THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN A STANDALONE CIGAR SHOP, THAT'S, UH, WE CAN CLARIFY THAT IN THE CODE THAT IT COULD BE ALLOWED AS AN ACCESSORY TO A RESTAURANT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS, THAT'S ALL I WAS ASKING. THAT'S GOOD POINT, RANDY. THANK YOU. UH, I, I'LL ECHO THE, THE MAYOR'S POINT I, AS FAR AS THE GRANDFATHERED, UH, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAY THAT THEY WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED INTO A EXISTING BUILDING. IF, IF IT IS IN A STRIP CENTER NOW CONNECTING ANOTHER BUSINESS, SHOULD WE PASS THIS? THOSE WERE STILL BE OKAY. CORRECT. YEAH, THOSE ARE WHAT ARE LEGAL NON-CONFORMING. THANK YOU. AND THE, WHERE DOES THE 51% COME IN WITH A, WITH A LIQUOR LICENSE? DON'T YOU HAVE TO HAVE A 51% FOOD COMPONENT? YES. UM, I BELIEVE 60. I THOUGHT THAT'S, THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THE STATE REQUIREMENT FOR A LIQUOR LICENSE WAS. YOU HAD TO HAVE A 51%. I DON'T KNOW IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT IT'S, IT'S EITHER 50 OR 60. UM, AND THAT IS, UM, REGULATED BY TABC? YES. AND WE WOULD 60. OKAY. 60%. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, AND WOULD THE, WOULD THE CITY HAVE ANY ENFORCEMENT IN THAT TO MAKE SURE OF THAT? OR IS THAT JUST STRICTLY A-T-A-B-C THING THAT COMES IN AND THEY, SO WE WOULD BE ASSURED THAT THEY, THEY SELL FOOD. IT'S NOT JUST A SMOKING AND DRINKING PLACE. THANK YOU SIR. THERE, SO, UH, THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, SO EACH OF THESE WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP? YES. IT WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED BY WRIGHT ANYWHERE. OKAY. EXCLUDING CIGAR, EXISTING EXISTING BUSINESSES. SURE. AND THE, UH, ON THE CIGAR LOUNGE TOO, THEIRS AS WELL. CORRECTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, DO YOU NEED MORE DIRECTION ON THAT OR? I THINK, I THINK WE GOT IT WORK. WE'RE OKAY. YEP. WHAT ELSE YOU GOT? WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE SLIDES. UM, SO WITH SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED. SO, UH, ONE IS MODIFICATION TO THE HOW A TREES MEASURED TO, UM, A COMPLY WITH, UH, THE INTERNATIONAL ARBORIST INSTITUTE. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE NAME STANDARD INDUSTRY STANDARD. UM, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ABOUT THE PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT. THIS IS A, THE PARKING REDUCTION OPTION. UM, THERE WANTED, THE CONVERSATION WAS BASED UPON THE INTENT OF CONNECTIVITY AND ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS TO THE BOUNDARY FOR THE ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT, GENERALLY EXTENDING THAT TO BELTLINE, BUT ALSO SOME MINIMUM CONDITIONS AND STANDARDS, UH, FOR WHEN YOU COULD COMPLY. UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SIDEWALK IN ORDER TO, UM, USE THIS. THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS IN THERE, UH, IN THE RED LINE. BUT I WANTED TO IDENTIFY THAT THIS, THIS STANDARD WAS EXPANDED BASED UPON WHAT WE PRESENTED IN AUGUST. UM, SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS, MOST OF THESE ARE RELATED TO TREES, UM, TO THE TOP TWO. HOW TREES ARE MEASURED, ONCE AGAIN, COMPLYING WITH, UM, UM, ARBORIST STANDARDS. UM, ADDING THIS IS A, A NEW CHANGE, ADDING A MITIGATION REQUIREMENT FOR UNPROTECTED TREES AT A REDUCED RATIO. WE CURRENTLY DO NOT REQUIRE MITIGATION AT ALL FOR UNPROTECTED TREES. UM, SO THIS IS A NEW, UM, NEW CHANGE TO THE CODE. AND THERE'S ALSO SOME CLARIFICATION, REFERENCE CHANGES TO TREE PERMITS AND, UM, ALSO REMOVED ACROSS REFERENCE ALSO RELATED TO A PLANT LIST FOR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. AND THEN THE LAST COUPLE SLIDES, UM, RELATED TO DEFINITIONS. SO ALL OF THESE ARE JUST MODIFICATIONS TO THE DEFINITIONS BASED UPON THE PREVIOUS CHANGES WE TALKED ABOUT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING, UM, IS, UM, CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT. AND THEN THERE WERE ALSO A COUPLE OF MINOR CHANGES TO APPENDIX A OF THE DOCUMENT. UH, ONE OF THEM ADDING A SOURCE ORDINANCE REFERENCE, UM, CHANGING CITY TO TOWN, UM, CLARIFYING A BOUNDARY, FIXING A TYPO AND SO FORTH. VERY, VERY MINOR CHANGES. AND I THINK WE GATHERED THE FEEDBACK THAT WE NEEDED ON THOSE TWO, UM, PRIMARY CHANGES, BUT HAPPY TO ACCEPT ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, UM, NOW OR ANY TIME AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, ADOPTION OF THE AMENDMENTS. OKAY. SO HOW MUCH TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME THAT WE FINALLY ADOPT THAT WOULD YES. UM, I'M LOOKING AT THE LAST MEETING IN OCTOBER OR THE FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER. OKAY. I SHOULD HAVE THAT DATE FINALIZED THE END OF THIS WEEK. SO [01:10:01] WE HAVE SOME TIME. IF THERE WAS SOMETHING ON SOMEBODY'S MIND, WE COULD SEND YOU AN EMAIL AND SAY, COULD YOU LOOK AT THIS AND BRING IT BACK TO US AND YEP. WE'D BE HAPPY TO. EXCELLENT. EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT PROCESS? YES SIR. ALRIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU LESLIE. ALRIGHT, THAT'S THE END OF OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS. IT'S SEVEN 10. LET'S TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL RECONVENE IN THE, IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT SEVEN 20. OKAY. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. IT IS SEVEN 20 AND WE'LL RECONVENE THE COUNCIL INTO OUR REGULAR SESSION. UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. UH, AS ALWAYS, WE WOULD LIKE TO START THE MEETING TO, UH, OR TO THE PLEDGE PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS. IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. FOR HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD. ONE AN INDIVISIBLE. ALRIGHT, APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING HERE WITH US THIS EVENING. WE'LL GET RIGHT INTO OUR AGENDA. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT WITH ALL, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING. ITEM [Proclamations / Presentations] TWO A, IT'S ITEM TWO PROCLAMATIONS PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE TWO, A CITY MANAGER ANNOUNCEMENTS AND TWO B EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION. TWO C ADDISON FIRE DEPARTMENT PHOENIX AWARD. DAVID GAINES. THANKS MAYOR. AS YOU CAN TELL, IF YOU'VE BEEN AROUND THE PARK THE PAST FEW DAYS, ADDISON OCTOBER FEST IS COMING UP SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH 20TH. ADDISON. RESIDENTS CAN STILL PURCHASE GENERAL ADMISSION TICKETS FOR 50% OFF AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB THROUGH SEPTEMBER 16TH. GET ALL EVENT DETAILS@ADDISONOCTOBERFEST.COM. SPEAKING OF OCTOBER FEST, PREPARATIONS ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK BEGINNING SEPTEMBER 14TH. THERE WILL BE A NUMBER OF ROAD AND PARKING LOT CLOSURES REQUIRING REQUIRED DURING SETUP AND TEAR DOWN, INCLUDING THE TOWN HALL PARKING LOT. TOWN HALL. GUESTS WILL BE ASKED TO TEMPORARILY USE THE MORRIS AVENUE PARKING LOT DURING THIS TIME. ALSO. ADDISON CIRCLE PARK WILL BE UNAVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC STARTING ON SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH THE EVENT. WE ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO DISCOVER SOME OF THE OTHER PARKS IN THE ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT OVER THE NEXT 10 DAYS. WE KNOW THESE CLOSURES CAN AFFECT YOUR NORMAL ROUTINES AND UH, AND ROUTES, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND FLEXIBILITY WHILE OUR TEAMS WORK TO SAFELY PREPARE FOR THE EVENT AND RESTORE THE AREA AFTERWARD. THOSE ARE ONLY ANNOUNCEMENTS AND WE'LL MOVE TO EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION. I'LL ASK BECKY TO COME UP. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. BECKY DIVINITY, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING. UM, TODAY I HAVE FRANK RIVIERA WITH ME. HE IS THE NEW STREETS AND TRAFFIC OPERATIONS MANAGER. UM, HE HAS A DEDICATED MUNICIPAL PROFESSIONAL CAREER WITH MORE OF 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE SERVING VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES, WHICH HAS SHAPED HIS COMMITMENT TO STAFF, RESIDENTS, AND COMMUNITIES THAT HE SERVES. HE GREW UP IN SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA AND GRADUATED FROM DELMAR HIGH SCHOOL. HE HAS BEEN HAPPILY MARRIED TO HIS WIFE KATIE FOR 20 YEARS. TOGETHER THEY HAVE TWO CHILDREN, HAZEL, AGE EIGHT AND HANK AGE THREE. UM, WHEN IT COMES TO SPORTS, FRANK IS A RAIDERS FAN. UM, ALTHOUGH HE ADMITS THE AVERAGE JOE'S DODGEBALL TEAM WAS ATTEMPTING ANSWER. UM, SO AFTER MORE THAN 25 YEARS WORKING FOR VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES, FRANK WAS DRAWN TO ADDISON BECAUSE HE FOUND THAT SMALLER TOWNS AND CITIES OFTEN CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THEIR STAFF AND RESIDENTS CREATING A GREATER SENSE OF JOY AND PURPOSE IN COMING TO WORK. HE'S EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THE SAME COMMITMENT TO ADDISON AND TO ITS COMMUNITY PROFESSIONALLY. FRANK IS ESPECIALLY PROUD OF COMPLETELY OVERHAULING A CITY'S PAVING DIVISION BY IMPLEMENTING NEW OPERATIONAL STRATEGIES FOR IN-HOUSE MILLING AND, UM, ASPHALT OVERLAY OPERATIONS. ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, HE IS PROUD OF WINNING FIRST PLACE IN THE BACKHOE COMPETITION AT THE 2025 A PWA EQUIPMENT RADIO RODEO IN COLLEGE STATION TEXAS. FRANK IS VERY BUSY AROUND TOWN, AS YOU MIGHT SEE, DOING PROJECTS LIKE CRACK CEILING, CONCRETE REPAIRS, AND STRIPING, ALONG WITH TODAY RECEIVING ALL OF OUR BARRIERS. I'LL ALSO MENTION THAT FRANK HAS BROUGHT FORWARD MANY NEW OPPORTUNITIES AND IDEAS TO OUR ENTIRE TEAM. SO WE'RE VERY GLAD TO HAVE HIM. UM, FRANK ALSO HAS A VERY FUNNY STORY FROM HIS YOUNGER YEARS. AT 20 YEARS OLD, HE OWNED FOUR CARS AND TWO MOTORCYCLES AT THE SAME TIME. WHEN ASKED WHAT ADDISON WAY MEANS TO HIM, FRANK DESCRIBED IT AS OWNERSHIP, TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THE JOB, DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY, ALWAYS [01:15:01] LOOKING FOR WAYS TO IMPROVE AND SERVING THE COMMUNITY WITH PRIDE. PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING FRANK REVIERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU BECKY. AND THANK YOU FRANK FOR ALL YOU ALL YOU DO FOR ADDISON. APPRECIATE YOU. THAT'S IT. PHOENIX. OH YES. UH, CHIEF ALEXANDER. CHIEF ALEXANDER. WE'LL COME UP FOR THE PHOENIX AWARDS. MAYOR COUNCIL CG ALEXANDER, YOUR FIRE CHIEF. AND HERE, UH, TODAY I AM GOING TO PRESENT A PHOENIX AWARD TO OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN, UH, OF STATION TWO AND STATION ONE. VERY PROUD OF THEM. SO THIS, UH, ALSO SHOWS THAT OUR STRONG COMMITMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH AUTOMATIC AID AND MUTUAL AID. 'CAUSE THIS CALL ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN CARROLLTON, BUT ALL OF OUR UNITS RESPONDED TO THERE. SO JUST A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAD WITH THEM. SO ON, UH, JAN, JUNE 28TH AT 3:00 PM UH, MEDIC 1 0 1, QUINT 1 0 2 RESPONDED TO A CHEST PAIN CALL IN MARSH LANE IN CARROLLTON, WHILE PREPARING TO MOVE THE PATIENT TO THE STAIR CHAIR TO, TO MOVE THEM FROM THE UPPER FLOORS TO THE LOWER FLOORS. THE PATIENT WENT UNCONSCIOUS, UNRESPONSIVE. DURING THAT TIME, UH, THE CREWS INITIATED CPR AT THREE, UH, 3:01 PM TRUCK 1 0 1, UM, BATTALION CHIEF 1 0 1 WERE DISPATCHED TO THE LOCATION FOR ASSISTANCE. WHILE THERE, THEY INITIATED A LS TREATMENT, SHOCKED THE INDIVIDUAL, UH, WITH THE LIFE PACK 15 AND ALSO STARTED, UH, OTHER EMERGENCY LIFESAVING EFFORTS. THEY INTUBATED THE PATIENT, THEY SEDATED THE PATIENT, AND ONCE THEY SHOCKED THE PATIENT, THEY WERE ABLE TO REGAIN A PULSE, TRANSPORTED THE PATIENT SUCCESSFULLY TO THE HOSPITAL WHERE THE PATIENT STAYED IN THE HOSPITAL AND WAS RELEASED ON MY BIRTHDAY, JULY THE 13TH. PATIENT WAS RELEASED FULL AND EXPECTING TO HAVE A FULL HEALTHY RECOVERY. UH, THE HOSPITAL ACTUALLY JUST PRESENTED THESE, UH, CREWS WITH A LIFESAVING AWARD JUST THE OTHER DAY. AND WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THE PATIENT COME OUT AND, UH, SPEAK SOME REALLY, REALLY HIGH THINGS ABOUT THIS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UM, BRIAN MERLEY, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC, LEAD PARAMEDIC ON THIS CALL. CORY GRIZZARD IS UNABLE TO ATTEND. TODAY WE HAVE, UH, CAPTAIN, UH, CAMERON RUSTY, WHO'S UNABLE TO ATTEND. TODAY. WE HAVE FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC, UH, JOSH MAL WHO WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND TODAY. ETHAN SMITH, UH, WAS A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC ON THIS CALL. CAPTAIN DARREN JONES WAS, UH, ON THIS CALL. AND THEN SEAN AINSWORTH WAS ON THIS CALL AND GARRETT BOWEN WAS ON THIS CALL. AND THEN, UH, ROD WILLIAMS, WHO IS, UH, OUT TODAY UNABLE TO ATTEND. SO, UM, PLEASE EVERYBODY PUT YOUR HANDS TOGETHER FOR, UH, THESE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN HERE TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. ONE SECOND GUYS. ONE SECOND. OH, ONE SECOND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GREAT JOB, JOB . YOU HAVE TO SAY IT. WELL THAT JUST, UH, MAKES YOU PROUD, DOESN'T IT? EVERY TIME WE SEE THAT, I LOVE THAT SO MUCH. WE'RE BLESSED. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UM, GOING [Public Comment] ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT. THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA. COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THESE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS. CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW. THESE COUNSEL IS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSSING THE ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. AND THE COUNSEL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. I DO HAVE ONE COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARD, AND SO I WILL CALL AT THIS TIME, ELIZABETH JONES TO COME FORWARD. AND PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. UM, ELIZABETH JONES. I'M HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING ARROW. [01:20:01] WE'RE THE ADDISON EAST RESIDENTIAL OWNERS. UM, I LIVE IN EAST ADDISON, AS YOU KNOW, RIGHT BY CELESTIAL PARK. AND THAT'S WHAT MY COMMENTS WILL BE TONIGHT. UH, ITEM 60 ON THE AGENDA SPEAKS TO FUNDING THE CAPITAL PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US. UM, MY ISSUE IS NOT THE PROJECT ITSELF, BUT RATHER THE LACK OF A VERY CRITICAL ELEMENT OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS THE ART STEPS. UM, AS YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT, UM, IS BUDGET CONSTRAINED, BUT EVEN WITH ALL THE GOOD WORK OF OUR TEAM TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE ON BUDGET, THE SCOPE REALLY DOES REQUIRE THAT YOU LOOK AT THE ART AND INVEST THE ADDITIONAL. AND IT'S BASICALLY AN INCREMENTAL $20,000, UM, TO SUPPORT THE ACTUAL AESTHETIC, WHICH WOULD TIE TOGETHER TO THE PURPOSE OF WHY THAT PARK IS AS POPULAR, FAMOUS AND IMPORTANT. BECAUSE IT IS A WORK OF ART. IT IS A JEWEL BOX. IT IS RECOGNIZED INTERNATIONALLY. IT IS RECOGNIZED LOCALLY. AND IF YOU DON'T WANNA TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, YOU CAN GO BACK TO A D MAGAZINE ARTICLE IN 1991, WHICH SPECIFIED WHY THIS PARK WAS SO SPECIAL AND WHY IT REPRESENTS SOMETHING SO UNIQUE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PARKS. TO PUT A NEW ENTRANCE WITHOUT PUTTING THE ART STEPS WOULD BE A DECREASE IN VALUE OF THE ASSET. WHICH, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE 2019, UM, MASTER PLAN FOR THE PARKS, THAT WAS A CRITICAL DETERMINATION OF WHY YOU WOULD INVEST. IT WAS TO IMPROVE ASSET VALUE, NOT DIMINISH IT. UM, THIS QUIET 4.45 ACRE SHOULD NOT BE DIMINISHED. YOU SHOULDN'T BE TAKING A PICASSO AND TRYING TO TURN IT INTO A PAINT BY NUMBER LOOKING, UM, PIECE OF ART. AND YOU SHOULD ALSO MEET THE TERMS OF YOUR MASTER PLAN CRITERIA THAT YOU ONE, PRESERVE THE IDENTITY. TWO, INVEST IN WHAT INCREASES, NOT DECREASES THE VALUE. THREE, UM, THE COST IS MORE THAN JUSTIFIED. THE INCREMENTAL 20,000 ESSENTIALLY DEFINES THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT FOR THE PURPOSE OF ENHANCING AND SUPPORTING THE ASSET. AND, UM, I THINK IT'S WORTH MENTIONING BECAUSE MR. MAYOR, YOU BROUGHT IT UP ONE TIME BEFORE THE EAST ADDISON AREA HAS THREE PARKS. WE'VE RECEIVED, WE'VE RECEIVED ZERO FUNDING TO DATE AND ZERO PROJECT SUPPORT. UM, I BELIEVE FROM THE ARBOR FOUNDATION AND FROM OTHERS, UM, WHO WOULD BE PUTTING FORTH POTENTIAL CAPITAL. I THINK IT'S TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT IS, UM, REMEDIED AND THAT IN THIS CASE THAT YOU GUYS ADD OR MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO ADD THE $20,000, UH, COST TO ABSOLUTELY MAKE SURE THE PARK IS CONSISTENT WITH ITS AESTHETIC, ITS PURPOSE, AND ALSO ITS MAGNIFICENCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ELIZABETH. THAT'S THE ONLY COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARD I HAVE. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? SURE. COME FORWARD. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF. JUST A COUPLE QUICK ONES TONIGHT. UM, AND NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. OH, OF COURSE, YEAH. MY NAME IS TYLER WRIGHT. I LIVE AT 15 7 2 5 ARTIS WAY, RIGHT HERE IN ADDISON. UM, SO JUST A COUPLE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SWO AROUND IN MY MIND, UH, WITHIN THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS OF THE PAST WEEK. UH, THE FIRST ONE, I FORGOT IF I WROTE Y'ALL, BUT THANK YOU FOR, UM, TAKING THE APPROACH Y'ALL DID WITH THE BIKE LANES ALONG BELTWAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY CONSTRUCTIVE APPROACH THAT WAS NOT ONLY THE CHEAPEST BUT BENEFITS THE MOST POSSIBLE PEOPLE. HAPPY TO GIVE THE RIGHT TURN LANE TO KEEP THE BIKE LANE. HOPEFULLY WE CAN KEEP BUILDING THE NETWORK. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR. AND I HOPE THAT KIND OF, UH, APPROACH CONTINUES. UM, ANOTHER CONSTRUCTIVE THING. I WAS THINKING ABOUT ADDISON ORBIT THE OTHER DAY. UM, AND A WAY TO POSSIBLY DIFFERENTIATE IT FURTHER AMONGST THE, OUR TRANSIT OPTIONS. WE HAVE, UH, OPTION, WE HAD AN OPTION FOR PARATRANSIT THAT WAS KIND OF BUILT INTO THE APP. WHAT ABOUT PET TRANSIT? UH, THINKING ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO CURRENTLY HAS A SECOND CAR. 'CAUSE WE BOUGHT A NEW ONE, BUT I'M LOOKING TO SELL MY OLD ONE IF ANYONE WANTS A 2014 FORD FOCUS. . UM, BUT, UH, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEBODY WHO WOULD, YOU KNOW, GIVE UP THAT CAR AND ONCE AGAIN GO BACK TO ONE CAR WHERE MY WIFE'S, UM, AT, AT WORK FIVE DAYS A WEEK. IF I HAD A VET APPOINTMENT OR SOMETHING TO GO, IT'S HARD TO DO ON A BUS AND EVEN HARDER TO DO ON A BIKE. I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF I CAN BRING A CAT ON, UM, ON A DART BUS OR BIKE. BUT HAVING SOME SORT OF OPTION THROUGH ORBIT WHERE I COULD MAYBE THE DAY AHEAD, MAYBE THE WEEK AHEAD, JUST SAY, HEY, I'D LIKE TO BRING MY ANIMAL, WHAT HAVE YOU. UM, CAN I DO IT? I DON'T CARE IF IT COSTS MORE, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO FURTHER DIFFERENTIATE OUR SERVICE, OUR SERVER OR OUR SERVICE AMONGST DARTS AND ADD SOME UTILITY TO TOWN RESIDENTS. SO, UM, HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THAT MORE OFFLINE, BUT, UM, UH, JUST KIND OF HAD HEAD TO HEAD AND YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK [01:25:01] YOU VERY MUCH. ANY, UH, ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE. ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVE [Consent Agenda] ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT TONIGHT INCLUDES ITEMS FOUR, A, B, AND C. IS THERE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOUR A THROUGH C. SECOND, UH, THANK YOU DAN FOR THE MOTION. A SECOND FOR MARLON. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED. ITEM [a. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request to rezone a 6.18± acres generally situated north of Belt Line Road, south of Arapaho Road, and approximately 350 feet east of Midway Road and Belt Line Road intersection, addressed as 4325 and 4559 Belt Line Road, from Planned Development (PD), Ordinance Nos. 549 and O89-015, to a new Planned Development (PD) district to allow for a development comprised of 380 multifamily dwelling units and associated private open space and common areas, through the approval of development plans and standards, and including a potential waiver and/or reduction of the requirements for dedication of land for parks, trails, and recreational areas and assessment of park development fees. Case 1960-Z/Rosewood PD.] NUMBER FIVE, THESE ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS, FIVE A HOLD, A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO REZONE AT 6.18 ACRES. GENERALLY, UM, SITUATED NORTH OF BELTLINE ROAD SOUTH OF ARAPAHOE ROAD AND APPROXIMATELY 350 FEET EAST OF MIDWAY ROAD AND BELTLINE ROAD INTERSECTION ADDRESSED AS 43 25 AND 45 59 BELTLINE ROAD FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD, ORDINANCE NUMBER 5 4 9 AND OH EIGHT NINE DASH ZERO 15 TO A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT COMPRISED OF 380 MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNITS AND ASSOCIATED PRIVATE OPEN SPACE AND COMMON AREAS THROUGH THE REMOVAL OF DEVELOPMENT PLANS, THROUGH THE, SORRY, THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND STANDARDS, AND INCLUDING A POTENTIAL WAIVER AND OR REDUCTION OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR DEDICATION OF LAND FOR PARKS, TRAILS AND RECREATIONAL AREAS. AND ASSESSMENT OF PARK ASSESSMENT FEES CASE 1960 DASH Z SLASH ROSE ROSEWOOD PD, LESLIE, LESLIE, AND I'M DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. UM, THIS REQUEST THIS EVENING IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR A LITTLE OVER SIX ACRES OF LAND ACROSS TWO PARCELS AS MENTIONED. UM, AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS SITE. UH, SO PRIOR TO 1979 IT WAS ZONED INDUSTRIAL. UM, IT WAS REZONED IN 1979. TWO, A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, ORDINANCE 5 4 9 FOR TO ALLOW A HOTEL AMONGST OTHER USES. UM, IT WAS DEVELOPED IN 1980, UH, WITH THE CURRENT SITE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH INCLUDE, UH, CURRENTLY A VACANT RESTAURANT. IT WAS FORMERLY A DENNY'S, I BELIEVE IT CLOSED DOWN APPROXIMATELY 2010 FRAME TIMEFRAME AS WELL AS THE MOTEL SIX, WHICH CURRENTLY EXISTS THERE, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE IS APPROXIMATELY 127 ROOMS, UH, AT THAT HOTEL. UM, IT WAS, UH, MODIFIED VIA PD AMENDMENT 1989 TO, UH, MODIFY AND EXPAND THE USES AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. AND THEN THE NEXT ZONING ACTION IS THIS REQUEST THIS EVENING, UM, FOR A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT UTILIZING THE M THREE ZONING DISTRICT, UH, FOR THIS PROPOSED PLAN. UM, YOU SEE BEFORE YOU, THIS WOULD BE MULTI MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. UH, IT WOULD INCLUDE A FIVE STORY, UH, MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURE WITH 380 UNITS. UM, THERE IS, UM, TECHNICALLY YOU GUESS YOU COULD CONSIDER IT TWO STRUCTURES. UM, THERE IS A LEG ON THE, THE TOP NORTH HAND SIDE, UH, WHICH ACTUALLY ALLOWS VEHICLE ACCESS UNDERNEATH. UM, SO THERE ARE A, UM, THIRD THROUGH FOURTH STORY, UH, CONNECTING THOSE, THOSE BUILDINGS. UM, THERE IS STRUCTURED PARKING, UM, CENTRAL TO THE SITE AS WELL AS SURFACE PARKING AND THERE WILL BE RESIDENT AMENITIES AND OPEN SPACE PROVIDED THROUGHOUT. UM, SO I MENTIONED THE PROPOSAL IS TO UTILIZE THE M THREE ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE MIXED USE URBAN CORRIDOR ZONING DISTRICT. UM, THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES ALLOWING THE USES CONSISTENT WITH THAT M THREE DISTRICT, UM, AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF OF PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS. ONE OF THOSE BEING THE BUILD TWO RANGE ALONG BELTLINE ROAD. UM, THAT IS TO ALLOW THE ACCESS DRIVE, WHICH YOU SEE ON THE SITE PLAN. UM, THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO ACCESS DRIVES, UH, WHICH DOES NOT COMPLY WITH OUR CURRENT ENGINEERING STANDARDS, UH, DUE TO PROXIMITY FROM DRIVEWAY TO DRIVEWAY. AND SO, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO COMBINE THOSE INTO ONE TO COME CLOSER INTO COMPLIANCE WITH OUR STANDARDS ON THIS SITE. UM, I'LL ALSO ADD THAT, UH, THERE ARE 578 PARKING SPACES PROVIDED 520 WITHIN THE STRUCTURED GARAGE AS WELL AS 58 SURFACE PARKING SPACES. UM, THIS DOES EXCEED THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, UH, FOR THE M THREE DISTRICT AT, UH, WHICH IS 454 SPACES, UM, FOR AN OVERALL PROPOSED RATIO OF 1.5 PARKING SPACES PER UNIT. UM, ADDITIONALLY, A MINIMUM OF 24, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING SPACES ARE PROVIDED ON SITE AS AND 91 BICYCLE PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS BOTH REQUIRED BY THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. LOOKING AT THE UNIT MIX, UM, THERE IS A VARIETY OF STUDIO ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM, AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS FOR WITH AN OVERALL, UM, AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 880 [01:30:02] UH, SQUARE FEET. THE APPLICANT, UH, ALSO HAS COMMITTED TO COMPLYING WITH THE NATIONAL GREEN BUILDING STANDARD CERTIFICATION, WHICH IS INCLUDED WITHIN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. UM, AND I MENTIONED, UH, PROVIDING 24 EV CHARGING SPACE, CHARGING, UM, CAPABLE SPACES ON SITE. UH, REGARDING THE OPEN SPACE AND LANDSCAPING, THE M THREE DISTRICT DOES REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF 10% OPEN SPACE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 36% OF GROSS SITE AREA AS OPEN SPACE. THIS DOES EXCLUDE, UM, THE PRIVATE COURTYARD YOU SEE IN THE CENTER OF THE, THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING. UM, COMPLIANCE WITH THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS REQUIRED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, AND THAT DOES INCLUDE AN ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN, UM, AREA AT THE FRONT ALONG BELTLINE, UM, THAT SPECIFICALLY INCLUDES AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK AS WELL AS A LANDSCAPE BUFFER PUSHING THE SIDEWALK OFF THE BACK OF CURB. UH, FOR THIS SEGMENT, UM, THEY'RE, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING RELIEF FROM THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER REQUIREMENT, UH, ALL ALONG ARAPAHOE. THAT BUFFER REQUIREMENT, UH, IS REQUIRED AT ANY TIME A PROPERTY, UM, ABUTS A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. HOWEVER, I WILL ADD, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING RELEASE FROM THAT RELIEF FROM THAT STANDARD ONLY WHEN ARAPAHOE ROAD IS ELEVATED. UM, AS YOU SEE AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, UH, THE BRIDGE WHEELER BRIDGE STARTS, UM, NEAR THE CENTER POINT OF THAT PROPERTY. SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, AS YOU MOVE FROM EAST TO WEST ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THE BUFFER EXISTS AND AS THE ELEVATION OF THE BRIDGE, UM, INCREASES, THE BUFFER DIMINISHES IN ORDER FOR TO ALLOW THEM THE, UM, THE FULL LENGTH OF THAT PROPERTY. AT THAT POINT, THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING A VARIETY OF PRIVATE AMENITIES ON SITE. UH, THERE IS A, UH, QUITE SUBSTANTIAL DOG PARK THAT IS PROPOSED, UM, AT THE FAR, UH, NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE, AS WELL AS THE INTERIOR COURTYARD PROVIDING AMENITIES FOR RESIDENTS. UM, THERE WILL ALSO BE INTERIOR AMENITIES SUCH AS A FITNESS CENTER, COWORKING SPACE, CLUB ROOM, TENANT ROUND, TENANT LOUNGE, AND GAME ROOM AS WELL. UH, THE BUILDING ITSELF WILL BE AS PROPOSED TO BE FIVE STORIES, UH, WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 70 FEET. UM, THE MATERIALS WILL PRIMARILY INCLUDE BRICK AND FIBER CEMENT PANEL. UM, THE MASONRY COVERAGE ALONG WITH FACADES RANGES FROM 68 TO 92% PER FACADE DEPENDING UPON, UM, WHICH FACADE, UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT. AND HERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, VIEWS OF THE STRUCTURE FOR, UH, MITIGATION OF DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS. UH, STAFF DID, UH, EVALUATE, UH, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES, WHICH ARE AVAILABLE TO SERVE THE, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. ADDITIONALLY, A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OR TIA WAS CONDUCTED, UM, AND REVIEWED BY THE TOWN AND IT DID NOT, UH, PROPOSE OR RECOMMEND ANY ADDITIONAL SITE, UH, OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROADWAY NETWORK TO SERVE THIS DEVELOPMENT. UM, THERE ARE NO ANTICIPATED ISSUES FOR TOWN SERVICE PROVISIONS OR A SCHOOL DISTRICT BEING ABLE TO SERVE THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN, UM, ADDITIONALLY RELATED TO TREE MITIGATION, UM, THIS SITE, AS I MENTIONED, WAS DEVELOPED IN 1980. THERE ARE MANY MATURE TREES ON SITE. UM, UNFORTUNATELY THE APPLICANT, UM, GIVEN THAT IT IS A FULL REDEVELOPMENT SCENARIO, THE APPLICANT IS NOT ABLE TO ADMIT TO, EXCUSE ME, PRESERVE TREES INTERIOR TO THE SITE. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO, UH, PRESERVE SEVERAL, UM, TREES ALONG THE PERIMETER. UM, BUT EACH OF WHAT THAT EQUATES TO IS, UM, EXCUSE ME, 591 CALIPER INCHES OF PROTECTED TREES TO BE PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED. UM, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF TYPES, UM, MANY PROTECTED AND SIGNIFICANT AND ONE HERITAGE TREE AS WELL. UM, AS YOU SEE IN THAT TABLE, BASED UPON THE REQUIRED MITIGATION RATIOS, UM, A MITIGATION IS REQUIRED AT 784 CALIBER INCHES IN TOTAL. UM, THE APPLICANT IS, UH, PROPOSED TO MITIGATE VIA 360 CALIBER INCHES ON SITE, UM, PLUS A FEE OF APPROXIMATELY 80 $81,000 INTO THE TREE MITIGATION FUND TO SATISFY THAT RELATED TO THE HERITAGE TREE. UM, THIS IS A, UM, A NEW STANDARD THAT WAS ADOPTED AND AND TAKEN INTO EFFECT LAST SEPTEMBER WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. IT DOES REQUIRE THAT ANY TREE, UM, DEEMED A HERITAGE TREE, WHICH IS GREATER, A PROTECT, UH, A DESIRED SPECIES PLUS A TREE GREATER THAN 30 CALIPER INCHES DOES REQUIRE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL TO REMOVE. UM, SO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, STAFF DID, UM, PROVIDE OR SEEK ADDITIONAL, UM, INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT AND ALSO HAD, UM, ADDITIONAL, UH, CONSIDERATION FOR THIS, THIS ITEM. SO THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES THE REMOVAL OF 1 36 CALIPER INCH ELM TREE. UM, THIS IS, UM, IT IS CIRCLED ON THIS TREE MITIGATION PLAN. UM, THAT RED CIRCLE YOU SEE, UM, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PLAN, NEAR BELT LINE ON THE PROPERTY LINE. UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, THIS DOES REQUIRE [01:35:01] APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL. UM, STAFF DID ASK THE APPLICANT TO HIRE A CERTIFIED ARBORIST TO EVALUATE THE TREE, UH, WHICH THEY DID, AND THEY DID, UM, PROVIDE THAT EVALUATION TO STAFF. UM, IT WAS DETERMINED VIA THE EVALUATION AS WELL AS THE REVIEW BY STAFF, WHICH WE CONCURRED WITH, UM, THAT THE TREE WAS AN IMMINENT SAFETY HAZARD AND LIKELY, UM, ANY INTERVENTION WOULD NOT SAVE THE TREE. UM, AND STAFF AGREES. AS I MENTIONED WITH THOSE FINDINGS, YOU CAN SEE SEVERAL PHOTOS. THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT, UM, SECTIONS OF THE, THE TREE THAT ARE DISEASED AND, UM, DYING AND SOME HAVE ALREADY BROKEN OFF LOOKING, UM, CONTINUING TO LOOK AT THE PARK DEDICATION AND DEVELOPMENT FEES. UM, PER THE ADOPTED PARK IMPACT FEES, THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO, UM, CONTRIBUTE BOTH. THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A 50% CREDIT OF THE REQUIRED FEE IN LIEU OF PARK DEDICATION, UH, FOR THE PROPOSED PRIVATE IMPROVEMENTS. UH, THE DOG PARK SPECIFICALLY, UH, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY OUTLINED WITHIN THE PARK IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE, UM, UNDER, UH, 6.47 E FOUR A. UM, THIS SECTION IDENTIFIES THAT A CREDIT OF UP TO 50% FOR THE TOTAL PARK LANE DEDICATION FEES ASSESSED BY THE SECTION MAY BE PROVIDED IN CONSIDERATION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF PRIVATE PARK FACILITIES IN CONFORMANCE WITH THIS SECTION. UM, SO WITH THAT, THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE, UM, A PROPOSED OVERVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT COST OF THAT, UM, PARK, THAT DOG PARK, EXCUSE ME. AND, UH, IT IS, THE APPLICANT HAS IDENTIFIED THAT THEY WOULD, UH, CONTRIBUTE APPROXIMATELY $930,000 TO, UM, INCLUDING THE LAND AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT DOG PARK, WHICH WOULD BE EXCLUSIVELY, UH, USED BY RESIDENTS. AND, UM, BUT MAINTAINED BY, UM, THE MULTIFAMILY OPERATOR AND OWNER, THE TOTAL FEES ASSESSED BEFORE ANY DISCOUNTS AND CREDITS WOULD BE JUST OVER $3 MILLION. SO ONCE AGAIN, THAT INCLUDES THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE AND THE PARK LAND FEE IN LIEU OF, UM, WITH THE, UM, PROPOSED 30% REDUCTION, UM, WHICH WAS THE INTENT OF, OF CITY COUNCIL. AND THEN THE PROPOSED OR THE REQUESTED 50% CREDIT FOR THE PARKLAND DEDICATION. UH, THE PROPOSED FEE TO BE PAID TO THE TOWN WOULD BE, UM, JUST UNDER $1.4 MILLION. UH, MOVING ON TO OTHER MITIGATION, UH, IMPACTS, OR EXCUSE ME, DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS. UM, THIS QUESTION CAME UP, UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. SO WANTED TO, UM, JUST NOTE THAT THE SITE IS OUTSIDE OF THE LIMITS OF THE NOISE CONTOUR FOR THE AIRPORT. UH, MOVING ON TO COMPLIANCE WITH LONG RANGE, UH, PLANNING POLICY. UH, THE FIRST IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADVANCE ADDISON. UH, THIS IS IDENTIFIED AS URBAN VILLAGE UNDER THE PLACE TYPES, UH, WHICH GENERALLY, UM, INTENDED TO BE WALKABLE, PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, UM, WHICH IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH, WITH WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED, AS WELL AS THE SPECTRUM OF CHANGE, WHICH, UM, IS NOT IDENTIFIED ON THIS, THIS, UM, MAP HERE. UH, BUT IT IS IDENTIFIED AS THE DEVELOP REDEVELOPED SCENARIO, WHICH DOES ENVISION, UM, A SIGNIFICANT REDEVELOPMENT SCENARIO AT THIS SITE. MOVING ON TO THE 26, EXCUSE ME, 2017 HOUSING POLICY. UH, THERE ARE, UM, FIVE STANDARDS WITHIN THAT HOUSING POLICY. UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST PROPOSING TO INCREASE THE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE OF FEE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP IN ADDISON H HOUSING MIX, WHICH THIS, UM, PROPOSAL DOES NOT DO. UM, HOWEVER, THIS PROPOSAL DOES IMPROVE THE WALKABILITY AND CONNECTIVITY IN THE AREA BY PROVIDING ENHANCED SIDEWALKS BOTH ALONG BELT LINE AS WELL AS A NESTED LOOP WITHIN THE COTTON BELT TRAIL. UM, THIS SITE DOES PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY DIRECTLY FROM BELTLINE ALL THE WAY NORTH, UH, WHICH CONNECTS IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES TO THE COTTON BELT TRAIL, WHICH THEN WILL LOOP YOU OVER TO MIDWAY ROAD. UM, SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A NESTED LOOP WITHIN THAT SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED VIA THIS DEVELOPMENT. UM, THERE IS A SECTION OF THE HOUSING POLICY WHICH, UM, IDENTIFIES THAT COUNSEL MAY DEEM A, UH, A PROJECT EXCEPTIONAL, UM, AND WARRANT, UM, APPROVAL, EVEN THOUGH IT DOES NOT INCREASE THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF FEE SIMPLE. UM, SOME, UM, COMPONENTS THAT COULD BE EVALUATED, UM, TO DEEM AN EXCEPTIONAL EXCEPTIONAL INCLUDE THE PRIVATE PARK DOG PARK THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE URBAN CHARACTER AND THE INCREASED, UH, CONNECTIVITY AND ACCESS TO THE COTTON BELT TRAIL AND THAT THE PROPOSAL REPLACES AN UNDERUTILIZED, UH, DEVELOPMENT. UM, LOOKING AT THE HOUSING POLICY AS MENTIONED, THIS DOES NOT INCREASE THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF FEE, SIMPLE OWNERSHIP. UM, THE, THE LAST, UM, SECTION THERE IDENTIFIES ALL EXISTING HOUSING PLUS THE PROPOSED [01:40:01] ENTITLED RESIDENTIAL UNITS, INCLUDING, UM, THE PROPOSAL THIS EVENING. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS PROPOSAL WOULD DECREASE, UM, THE OWNERSHIP BY 0.4% OVERALL FOR HOUSING DENSITY COMPARISON. THIS PROPOSAL IS ABOUT 66 UNITS PER ACRE, UM, WITH THE OP OPEN SPACE AS WELL AS TRAILS AS MENTIONED AS YOU CAN SEE THAT IN COMPARISON TO SOME OF THE OTHER, OTHER PROJECTS IN ADDISON, IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW STAFF NOTICED, UM, ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE, UM, THAT INCLUDED 19 RECIPIENTS PLUS DISD. UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED, WE DID RECEIVE ONE IN SUPPORT, UH, TWO STAFF. UM, ADDITIONALLY THE APPLICANT DID, UH, HOST A COMMUNITY MEETING, UH, HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON AUGUST 5TH. UM, APPROXIMATELY 50 INDIVIDUALS ATTENDED THAT MEETING, UH, TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER ABOUT THIS, UM, PROPOSAL. AND THEN AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UH, WE HEARD AT THAT MEETING FROM 17 RESIDENTS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. UM, AND ULTIMATELY, UM, THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED WITH, UH, STAFFS THE CONDITIONS ON THE, THE FOLLOWING SLIDE THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED INCLUDING, UH, FOUR TO THREE. UH, SO IN CONCLUSION, STAFF HAS REVIEWED AND DETERMINED THAT IT, EITHER THE PROJECT EITHER COMPLIES WITH THE M THREE DISTRICT OR ALL, UM, IDENTIFIED MODIFICATIONS OF STANDARDS THAT ARE INCLUDED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AS REQUESTED. UM, THERE ARE TWO ITEMS FOR SPECIAL CONSIDERATION, WHICH WE DID DISCUSS. THE FIRST WAS THE REMOVAL OF THE, UM, HERITAGE TREE, UM, THAT'S CURRENTLY IN DECLINE. AND THEN THE SECOND WAS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE PARK AND PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE REDUCTION. UM, SO OBVIOUSLY THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE, UM, INTENT OF HOUSING POLICY TO INCREASE THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF FEE SIMPLE. UM, BUT AS MENTIONED, UM, CITY COUNCIL CAN, UH, DEEM THE PROJECT EXCEPTIONAL FROM VARIOUS ELEMENTS, UH, IF THEY SOW SHOES. AND, UM, THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS, UH, BEFORE YOU, WHICH WERE RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WHICH DO INCLUDE THE REMOVAL OF THE 36 CALIPER INCH HERITAGE TREE, AS WELL AS, UH, THE PARK AND THE PARK FEES, IMPACT FEES, EXCUSE ME, UM, TOTALING APPROXIMATELY, UH, $1.39 MILLION. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, LESLIE. AND, UH, MARLON, LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE THE FIRST QUESTION. THANK YOU. UM, LESLIE, ON SLIDE 22 UP THERE IN THE NORTH, UH, THE NORTHEAST PARCEL, HAS THAT EVER, DO WE KNOW IF THAT'S EVER BEEN DEVELOPED? TWO STAFFS. WE EVER HAD ANYTHING ON THAT TWO STAFF'S KNOWLEDGE. IT'S NEVER BEEN, UH, DEVELOPED. THERE IS A, UM, A DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT IS THERE WITHIN A, AN EASEMENT THAT DOES, UM, IS DEDICATED BACK TO THE TOWN. UM, BUT BEYOND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN ANY DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. AND IS THAT GOING TO REMAIN THAT DRAINAGE? YES. OKAY. YES. CHRIS, LESLIE, JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. SO BACK TO SLIDE NINE. JUST WALK ME THROUGH THE, THE TREE MITIGATION. SO I'VE DRIVEN THE SIDE A COUPLE TIMES. I, I RECOGNIZE THE, THE HERITAGE TREE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. MM-HMM . THERE'S ONE THAT'S BEHIND THE DENNY'S THAT LOOKS SIMILAR SIZE. ARE WE KEEPING THAT ONE? I DO NOT BELIEVE SO, NO. UM, SO NONE OF THE, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN. UM, SO AS YOU CAN, IT WAS HARD TO TELL IN OUR PRESENTATION WHAT WE'RE YEAH. SO BECAUSE BASICALLY ANYTHING CENTRAL TO THE SITE, UH, IS PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED, UM, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A BUILDING THERE. UM, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE I KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 'CAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE A HERITAGE TREE. YEAH. BUT I DO BELIEVE IT'S A SIGNIFICANT TREE. OKAY. UM, I CAN, I CAN CONFIRM THAT DURING THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, BUT THAT'S WHAT I RECALL. ALL RIGHT. I'M, I'M SURPRISED IT'S NOT A HERITAGE TREE 'CAUSE IT LOOKED EVEN LARGER THAN THE ONE OF THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY. UH, I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT LOSING ALL THE TREES. THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY MATURE. UM, YOU KNOW, BUT I GET IT. WE'VE GOTTA DEVELOP THE SITE. WE'RE REPLACING IT WITH 360 CALIBER INCHES. UM, EXPLAIN TO ME HOW WE GOT TO THE FEE. IT'S, UM, SEVEN. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO REPLACE WITH 700, 784 INCHES. THEY'RE REPLACING 360 ON THE SITE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET SPECIFIC TO EVERY DOLLAR, BUT IS THERE, I'M ASSUMING EVERY INCH IS A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT. IT'S $192 PER CPER INCH. SO, UM, THEY PAID A COMBINATION OF REPLACEMENT ON SITE, PLUS THE REMAINDER WAS PAID VIA THE FEE IN LIEU OF REPLACEMENT, WHICH IS $192 PER CPER INCH. OKAY. AND [01:45:01] THEN, UH, TWO OTHER QUICK QUESTIONS. SO, UM, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL QUARTER ACRE TRAILS THAT THE APPLICANT'S GOING TO ADD MM-HMM . ARE THEY, ARE, ARE THEY ABLE TO BE ACCESSED BY THE PUBLIC? MM-HMM . THE INTENT IS, IS THAT THEY WOULD, UM, BE ACCESSIBLE BY THE PUBLIC. YES. AND THEN THE DOG PARK, IS THAT ACCESSIBLE TO ANYONE? THE DOG PARK IS INTENDED TO BE FOR RESIDENT USE ONLY. OKAY. AND THEN THAT TRAIL, UM, IS, IS THAT GOING TO, IT WASN'T CLEAR IN THE PRESENTATION. I KNOW IT, IT SAID IT AT ONE POINT, BUT I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHERE IT WOULD BE. WILL THERE BE CONNECTIVITY TO THE COTTON BELT? MM-HMM . UM, THROUGH, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY? YES. SO, UM, LOOKING AT THIS IMAGE, IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, UM, STARTING AT BELTLINE. IT RUNS ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN, UM, STRAIGHT NORTH AND IT ACTUALLY CONNECTS DIRECTLY NORTH. SO YOU COULD GO, UM, YOU COULD ADD ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, YOU COULD ACTUALLY TURN LEFT AND KIND OF GO UNDER THE BRIDGE OR GO RIGHT AND CIRCLE UP ON ARAPAHOE. SO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THE OPTION TO GO EITHER DIRECTION. I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT. SO YOU, YOU COULD GO THROUGH THAT PROPERTY. WILL THERE BE A GATE OR SOMETHING THERE THAT I WILL, I'LL DEFER. DEFER TO THE ALRIGHT. OKAY. TO THE APPLICANT. ALRIGHT. AND THEN ONE FINAL QUESTION. CAN YOU TELL ME, AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR CHIEF FREEZE, TELL ME ABOUT SOME OF THE POLICE CALLS THAT WE SEE ON THAT PROPERTY. YEAH, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. CHRIS FREEZE, CHIEF OF POLICE. SO LET ME JUST START OUT BY SAYING WE'VE GOT A MOTEL SIX THAT IS OUTLIVED ITS USEFUL LIFE. UM, WITH THAT COMES CERTAIN ELEMENTS AND I JUST WANTED TO HEAR FROM YOU. WHAT, WHAT KIND OF THINGS HAPPEN THERE? WHAT ARE YOU SEEING? YES, SO JUST FROM A, A CALL FOR SERVICE STANDPOINT AT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THE MOTEL SIX PROPERTY, UM, MOST OF THE CALLS ARE, UH, WARRANT SERVICE OR, UH, SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY IN NATURE. UM, SELF-INITIATED REPORTS. SO THAT'S OUR OFFICERS PATROLLING THE PARKING LOT, SEEING INDIVIDUALS EITHER SITTING IN CARS OR WALKING THROUGH PARKING LOT TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THEM. UM, THAT COULD END UP IN A WARRANT ARREST THAT COULD END UP IN A NARCOTICS POSSESSION. UM, CALLS THAT ARE CALLED IN FROM THE LOCATION, TYPICALLY SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY CALLS THAT OUR OFFICERS WILL GO TO INVESTIGATE. UM, AND ALSO, UH, NARCOTIC RELATED ACTIVITIES AND COMPARED TO SOME OF OUR OTHER HOTELS, UH, COMPARED TO SOME OTHER HOTELS WOULD DEPEND ON THE HOTEL PROPERTY. UM, USUALLY FOR OUR HOTELS YOU'LL SEE KIND OF THOSE SIMILAR CALLS FOR SERVICE BECAUSE IT'S MORE TRANSIENT, LIKE IN, IN NATURE, PEOPLE NOT REALLY STAYING THERE FOR THE LONG TERM. UM, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT LIKE OTHER ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT BE LIKE MULTIFAMILY, UM, THOSE ARE DIFFERENT CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT WE EXPERIENCE AT THOSE LOCATIONS AS COMPARED TO THIS PARTICULAR SITE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. JUST CHIEF, JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP ON THAT. WHERE DOES THIS RANK AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF CALLS PER SERVICE, UH, COMPARED TO OTHER HOTEL PROPERTIES AND TOWN WIDE? YEAH, SO THEY'RE CURRENTLY, UH, FOR OUR, UH, HOTEL ORDINANCE PROGRAM, THEY'RE IN VIOLATION. THEY'RE AT ABOUT A 1.3 CALLS PER SERVICE. WE WANT THE, OUR HOTELS BELOW OF 1.0 CALLS PER SERVICE. UH, WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH THE PROPERTY, WE'VE GIVEN THEM A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE, WE'VE MET WITH THEM, OFFERED SOME CRIME MITIGATION TACTICS, UM, AND TECHNIQUES. AND SO WE'RE CONTINUING THAT PROCESS WITH IN LINE WITH OUR ORDINANCE. SO IS IT AT THE TOP OF THE LIST? UH, IT WOULD BE NUMBER FOUR ON THE LIST. OKAY. OUT OF 22 PROPERTIES. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. SO YOU MIGHT WANNA STAY CLOSE BY, MARLON, YOU HAD SOMETHING? YEAH, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR, UH, LESLIE HERE. YOU'RE, UM, SO CAN YOU TELL US, DO YOU KNOW ON THIS, ON THIS NORTHERN, ON THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE, THIS WILL WORK ON THIS SLIDE. DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT BORDER IS GONNA LOOK LIKE OR THAT BUFFER ALONG THE ARAPAHOE, THE COTTON BELT TRAIL? IS THAT A FENCE OR A WALL OR SHRUBS OR, UM, SO I DON'T, LET ME SAVE THAT FOR THE APPLICANT. YEAH, I'LL DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT. OKAY. ON THE FENCE CONTROL. AND THEN, AND IF, IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED ON THIS, UH, UP IN THE NORTHEAST ON ALL THIS, UH, PARK AREA, THAT WOULD, WOULD THAT SOLIDIFY THAT AS, AS LIKE GREEN SPACE? YES. VIA THIS PLAN, UH, IF APPROVED, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE APPROVED WITH, UM, THESE PLANS CODIFIED. SO, UM, THIS PROPERTY FOR THE, THE REMAINDER OF ITS DAYS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE OPEN SPACE AS WELL AS THE DOG PARK AND AMENITIES, UM, CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANS AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. SO THAT WOULD NOT, THAT WOULD NEVER CHANGE. NOT UNLESS THIS THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT WAS REDEVELOPED FOR SOMETHING OR FOR ANY REASON THAT A CITY COUNCIL WOULD AMEND IT? YES. OKAY. READY? THANK YOU. UH, TO FINISH CHRIS'S QUESTION ON THE TRAIL AND [01:50:01] THE DOG PARK, YOU WERE, IN MY OPINION, VERY CALCULATED IN YOUR ANSWER ON THAT WHEN HE ASKED IF IT WOULD BE PUBLIC ACCESS. AND UH, YOUR ANSWER WAS THAT IS WHAT THE INTENT IS, THAT'S NOT A YES. SO IN ALL MY CONVERSATION, WHERE IS THE AMBIGUITY AND THAT'S WHAT WE INTEND. INTEND AND YES, IT WOULD BE PUBLIC ACCESS. UM, I WILL, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO DEF TO ELABORATE ANY FURTHER, THEN UM, I'LL LEAVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. BUT IN ALL THE CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF IS THAT IT WOULD BE PUBLIC ACCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'VE JUST SOMETIMES THANK YOU. UM, THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT THIS PROJECT THAT IS EXCEPTIONAL AND TO PROVE THAT ALL YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IS ALL OF THE ASK ALL OF THE THINGS THEY'RE ASKING US TO WAIVE AND PAY FOR THEM TO DO. IF IT WAS AN EXCEPTIONAL PRO PROJECT, THEY WOULD BE COMING AND SAYING, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS AND WE WANNA WORK THE PROJECT. I HAVE ZERO INTEREST IN ANY KIND OF CORPORATE WELFARE IN WAIVING ANY OF OUR FEES, WAIVING ANY OF OUR LAND USE REQUIREMENTS, ANY CREDIT WHATSOEVER TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT THE TOWN HAS ALREADY SAID. WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN MORE APARTMENTS. IS THERE A QUESTION, RANDY? SURE. IS THIS HOW MUCH, WHAT'S THE GRAND TOTAL OF ALL OF THE FEES THAT THEY'RE ASKING US TO WAIVE? UM, APPROXIMATELY, UH, $712,000. $712,000. I WOULD ROUND UP TO SEVEN 13. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, MY OTHER QUESTIONS WOULD BE FOR CHIEF FREEZE. I'M GLAD YOU KEPT HIM CLOSE. THANK YOU. LESLIE? YES SIR. CHIEF FREEZE. DO YOU KNOW OF ANY, UH, HUMAN TRAFFICKING OR, UH, SEX TRAFFICKING AND PROSTITUTION RINGS THAT ARE RUN OUT OF SIMPLE FEE HOMES IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON TODAY OR IN THE PAST? OFF THE TOP, UH, ACTIVE INVESTIGATIONS? I WOULDN'T COMMENT ON THAT. WE MIGHT BE LOOKING INTO 2010, 2012, UH, LONG BEFORE MY TIME, BUT I'M SURE I UNDERSTAND. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. DO YOU HAVE ANY PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT? I THINK I READ AN ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT RECENTLY ABOUT IT. UH, WELL, YOU READ THE ARTICLE THAT I'M, THAT I AM REFERENCING HAVING TO DO WITH APARTMENTS, NOT SIMPLE FEE HOMES. AND WHEN WE BUILT THEY, THEY TARGET AND ADDISON WAS THE NUMBER ONE FACILITY AND ADDRESS FOR THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND PROSTITUTION RING. THAT WAS A NATIONWIDE RING. I UNDERSTAND THAT ONE OF OUR OFFICERS IS WHAT TORPEDOED THAT INVESTIGATION IN DALLAS AND THE, THE STATE OF MINNESOTA IS THE ONE THAT PICKED IT UP AND PROSECUTED THE PEOPLE. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, HOW DO WE PREVENT A SEX TRAFFICKING AND PROSTITUTION RING FROM COMING IN TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THE SAME WAY WE WOULD PREVENT IT FROM COMING INTO ANY PART OF OUR COMMUNITY? SIR, THAT'S THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR, UM, FEDERAL AGENCIES, PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR LOCAL DEPARTMENTS, RIGHT. COMMUNICATION ACROSS BORDERS. UM, THE LOCATION OF WHETHER IT'S A HOTEL, APARTMENT, SINGLE FAMILY HOME MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WITH THAT. I AGREE WITH YOU. PEOPLE WHO GONNA FIND A PLACE TO, TO DO HARM TO PEOPLE WHERE THEY CAN, IT'S NOT LOCATION SPECIFIC WITH ALL OF THAT. I COMPLETELY AGREE AND THAT'S A GREAT ANSWER. AND THAT'S WHY WE, WE HAVE RECENTLY EVEN TALKED ABOUT THESE, UH, APARTMENTS, RENTAL APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING USED AS A SUB, UH, AS A SECONDARY RENTAL MARKET. AND THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEMS COME IN ON THIS TYPE THING. SO AT WHAT POINT, HERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION. AT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS, TO ME IT WAS VERY EMBARRASSING FOR OUTSIDE DEVELOPERS AND PEOPLE TO BE TALKING ABOUT ONE SMALL AREA OF TOWN THAT HAS, THAT IS SUCH A PROBLEM AREA. WE ARE A TOWN OF FOUR SQUARE MILES. TAKE THE AIRPORT OUT OF IT. WE'RE A TOWN OF THREE SQUARE MILES AND IF WE CAN'T CONTROL SMALL POCKETS OF BUSINESSES THROUGH ENFORCEMENT AND CODE, ALL WE'RE DOING IS KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD WITH ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX. I DEFY, I DEFY YOU TO SHOW ME AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S 30 YEARS [01:55:01] OLD AND IS STILL WANTED BY THE TOWN. SO WHAT IS OUR PLAN OF ENFORCEMENT FOR APARTMENTS THAT COME IN FOR EXISTING APARTMENTS OR APARTMENTS ALREADY HERE? WHAT, WHAT'S THE OKAY, I I'M ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION. OKAY, SURE. I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW, HOW WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE THIS NEW APARTMENT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT WE DON'T KNOW. SO GOING FORWARD, HOW ARE WE GOING TO POLICE ENFORCE AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROPERTY STAYS PRISTINE AND, AND A PLACE IN OUR TOWN THAT WE WOULD BE PROUD OF 30 YEARS FROM NOW? WE WOULD ENFORCE THE SAME WAY THAT WE ENFORCE ALL PROPERTIES WITHIN TOWN. WE HOLD INDIVIDUALS ON THE PROPERTY ACCOUNTABLE TO THEIR ACTIONS. WE PROACTIVELY PATROL THOSE AREAS. AGAIN, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IF IT'S AN APARTMENT, A HOTEL, A RESTAURANT, A NEIGHBORHOOD. OUR OFFICERS ARE OUT PATROLLING THE STREETS OF ADDISON. WE DO THAT. WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND OUR OFFICERS DO A FABULOUS JOB OF THAT. MY POINT IS, WE SAY THAT NOW, BUT WE STILL HAVE POCKETS THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL. SO I WANNA KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA GET ANOTHER POCKET, PREVENT ANOTHER POCKET FROM HAPPENING. AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IS NOT AN EXCEPTIONAL, IS NOT AN EXCEPTIONAL PROJECT THAT THE PEOPLE OF THIS TOWN HAVE OVERWHELMINGLY SAID, WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER APARTMENT. SO THANK YOU. I SIR DAN LESLIE, QUESTIONS FOR YOU. ON SLIDE 12, THE LIGHTING IT LISTS AS ONE UNIT AT $40,000. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT OR GIVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT LIGHTING KNOWING IT'S, UM, THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S ESTIMATE, SO I'LL DEFER TO THEM AS, AS FAR AS UH, WHAT THEY ENVISION FOR, FOR THAT PROPOSAL FOR THE DOG PARK FOR THE, OKAY, SO IT'S ONE LIGHT IN THE DOG PARK ITSELF. UM, I IMAGINE, WELL, I I WON'T SPECULATE, I'LL DEFER TO, TO THEIR INTENT ON THAT. OKAY. BUT THEN THE REST OF THE PLANNING FOR THE REST OF OUR CODE PER OUR, OUR LIGHTING, OUR NEW UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT MM-HMM . THAT ALL MET STANDARD, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. AND THEN LAST QUESTION ON THE LAND VALUE AT THE TOP WHERE IT SAYS 0.78 ACRE MM-HMM . IT HAS A UNIT COST OF 528,000 AND CHANGE. YEP. IS THE DEPRECIATION THE 30 LESS IS THE FOUR 12? THAT'S A, SORRY, I THINK MAYBE A COLUMN GOT LEFT OUT. SO THE INTENT IS THE UNIT COST, THAT'S, THAT $528,000 IS A PER ACRE UNIT COST. UM, AND SO THE PARK IS 0.78 ACRES. SO THAT'S HOW YOU'RE GETTING THE FOUR 12, SORRY, THAT'S HOW YOU'RE GETTING TO THE FOUR 12,000. SO IT'S THE, IT'S THE VALUE OF THE LAND ON A PER ACRE COST, BUT REDUCED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE, THE SIZE OF 0.78 ACRES. BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT, IS THE, THE LAND FOR THREE QUARTERS OF ACRE, $528,000 IS FOR THE DIRT. CORRECT? YES. YEAH, JUST IT'S, I'M JUST TRYING TO POINT OUT THE EXPENSE OF OUR DIRT IN ADDISON AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. OH YES. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANKS LESLIE, APPRECIATE THAT CHANEL. OH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. UM, SO LESLIE, QUICK QUESTION. I HAVE A FEW, AND THIS MIGHT BE SOME FOR THE DEVELOPERS. UM, SO LIKE, UH, MR. MARLIN SAID, I'M REALLY KINDA CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT THAT BACK SIDE, THAT EAST SIDE OF THE FENCE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE. I'M REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. SO HOPEFULLY THE DEVELOPER COULD ANSWER THAT. AND THEN, UM, ON THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS MM-HMM . WAS THIS TRAFFIC ANALYSIS DONE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS, UM, THIS PROPERTY OR WAS IT DONE IN RELATIONSHIP TO WHAT ELSE WE ALREADY HAVE COMING DOWN THE PIKE? I, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. WHEN THEY DID THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WAS IT JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT UNIT? I MEAN THAT PROPERTY OR WAS IT DID IT IMPACT EVERYTHING AROUND? SO HOW THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS TYPICALLY DONE IS, UM, SO IS WHAT THEY DID IS, AND THIS IS IN THE, THE TABLE IS IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT THEY TOOK THE EXISTING USE AND THE EXISTING TRIP GENERATION. SO THEY ACTUALLY TOOK TRAFFIC COUNTS. THEY DID NOT RELY ON, UM, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRY STANDARD DATA MM-HMM . WHICH ACTUALLY SHOWED A VERY LOW TRAFFIC COUNT, UM, BASED UPON THE CURRENT USES. AND THEN, UM, WITH THE PROPOSED LAND USE, THEY DID USE IN THE INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC GENERATED FOR THAT TYPE OF USE AND THE NUMBER OF UNITS FOR THAT, THAT TYPE OF USE. UM, WHICH OBVIOUSLY, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT TABLE DID SHOW AN INCREASE IN PROPOSED TRAFFIC MM-HMM . BUT WHEN YOU TAKE, WHEN THEY TOOK INTO THAT TRAFFIC INTO ACCOUNT, THEY EVALUATED ON THE IMPACT ON THE SYSTEM AND WITH THE SYSTEM THAT'S, THEY USE THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC COUNT DATA. SO OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING TEAM HAS [02:00:01] A DATABASE WITH ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC, CURRENT TRAFFIC COUNTS MM-HMM . UM, AND THEY, THEY ADD THAT IMPACT TO OUR CURRENT TRAFFIC COUNTS AND EVALUATE IT THAT WAY. UM, SO IT DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT IS ALREADY EXISTING THERE. OKAY. EXISTING AND FUTURE? UM, I, NOT NECESSARILY FUTURE, NO. OKAY. UM, I HAVE TO GO ON RECORD TO SAY THIS, SO I KINDA AGREE WITH MR. RANDY OVER THERE ABOUT THE PARK FEES , I'M NOT SO CRAZY ABOUT THAT. UM, SO I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD OF SAYING THAT. AND THEN, UM, THE, UH, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU AND I'LL JUST COME BACK WITH QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER. THANK YOU. SO BACK ON SLIDE NINE ON THE TRAFFIC COUNTS. WHERE IS THAT TABLE, UH, IN THIS PACKET? CAN WE LOOK AT THE TABLE OF THE TRAFFIC? I, I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS AT WHAT KIND OF INCREASE WE'RE LOOKING AT. UM, IT IS, IT'S ON THE, IN THE STAFF REPORT AND IT'S ON PAGE FIVE OF THE STAFF REPORT. UM, IT'S UNDER THE TRAFFIC GENERATION AND CIRCULATION SECTION. UM, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE, UM, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE NET TOTAL IS, UH, OF INCREASE, EXCUSE ME. THE NET INCREASE IS 1,423 DAILY TRIPS. TRIP ENDS, EXCUSE ME, THOSE ARE DAILY TRIP ENDS. UH, I ALSO, I WANNA REITERATE THAT THAT IS BASED UPON THE OBSERVED TRAFFIC COUNTS TODAY. NOT NECESSARILY IF THE MOTEL SIX WAS A THRIVING HOTEL, UM, SO IT WOULD, YOU WOULD LIKELY SEE A SMALLER NET INCREASE. UM, BUT THE, LIKE, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE NET INCREASE FROM WHAT IS OBSERVED TODAY TO WHAT IS PROJECTED BASED UPON INDUSTRY STANDARD IS 1,423 DAILY TRIP ENDS. DO WE HAVE THE OCCUPANCY OF THAT HOTEL? I MEAN, WHAT'S IT OPERATING AT? 50%, 40%? I KNOW IT'S 127 ROOMS MM-HMM . AND OBVIOUSLY THE, THE RESTAURANT IN THE FRONT HAS BEEN VACANT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. BUT I DO NOT KNOW THE, YOU KNOW, AVERAGE NIGHTLY OCCUPANCY. I DON'T RECALL IF IT'S ON OUR RECORDS ANYWHERE. UM, IT SEEMS LIKE IF IT WAS, UM, MORE HEALTHY THAT IT WOULD BE A MUCH HIGHER TRAFFIC COUNT AND THAT IF THE RESTAURANT WAS THERE, THEN THAT WOULD BE HIGHER TRAFFIC COUNT. I FEEL LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A NET, AT LEAST A NET NEUTRAL ON WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS, UM, ON. SO ON THE TRAIL AND THE DOG PARK, YOU, TO CLARIFY WHAT I HEARD AND WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANT ALSO IS YOU SAID ON THE TRAIL IS PUBLIC USE AND THE DOG PARK IS FOR RESIDENTS. THIS IS WHAT I HEARD. SO I'LL CLARIFY THAT WITH, UM, WITH THE APPLICANT. AND THEN ON SLIDE 12. OKAY, SO THIS IS THE COST FOR THEM PUTTING IN THAT DOG PARK. OKAY. YES. UM, 700 AND, UH, THE 930,359. OKAY. AND THEIR REQUESTED 50% CREDIT IS 712. IS THAT 50% REDUCTION? IS THAT CUSTOMARY, IS THAT STANDARD FOR OUR, UH, DEVELOPMENTS OR IS THAT JUST BECAUSE WE WANT TO GIVE AWAY PUBLIC DOLLARS? NO, SO THAT, SO, UM, WHAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSED, THIS IS ACTUALLY, UM, THIS, UH, ITALICIZED TEXT YEAR FOUR A COMES DIRECTLY FROM THE PARK IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE THAT WAS ADOPTED, UM, WHICH PROVIDES THIS AVENUE TO REQUEST CREDIT, UM, THE, IF, IF THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDES A PRIVATE PARK FACILITY. ESSENTIALLY THE, THE INTENT IS, IS THAT THE PARK IMPACT FEE IS A, UM, A FEE TO PAY FOR EITHER THE EXPANSION OR CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT MAINTENANCE, OR EXCUSE ME, NOT MAINTENANCE IMPROVEMENT ON OUR PARK SYSTEM. AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND THIS, UM, CREDIT OPTION TO BE IS THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING THAT SERVICE SO THE TOWN DOES NOT HAVE TO, UM, BOTH PAY FOR THE SERVICE WHERE THEY PARK AS WELL AS THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND FUTURE IMPROVEMENT. UM, SO IT'S, I BELIEVE THE INTENT OF THIS, THIS, UM, FOUR A IS KIND OF A, A SWAP OF, IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA PROVIDE THAT, WE WILL GIVE YOU A CREDIT FOR THAT. UM, NOW IT'S UP TO CITY COUNCIL DISCRETION WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS APPROVED AND THE, THE AMOUNT. SO, UM, IT'S UP TO 50%. UM, THAT'S WHAT THE CODE OUTLINES THE REQUEST COULD BE. UM, AND UH, IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING, UH, 50% REDUCTION OF THE, THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, WHICH EQUATES TO, UH, JUST, UM, UNDER $713,000. SO I, I WOULD JUST ADD, IF YOU CAN PUT YOUR HEAD BACK A FEW, A YEAR OR TWO AGO WHEN WE WERE HAVING THE PARK FEE DISCUSSION, THIS [02:05:01] WAS CONTEMPLATING, WE HAD THE CONVERSATION ON THIS. SO AGAIN, IT IS AT COUNSEL'S DISCRETION, BUT THIS EXACT CONVERSATION WAS HAD TO SAY, HEY, THESE, THIS COULD BE A SCENARIO THAT WE HAVE. OKAY. SO, SO THAT THE QUESTION I WAS TRYING TO ASK IS, THIS IS THE INTENT. SO THIS IS NOT LIKE SOME EXCEPTION THAT WE'RE MAKING. IT'S, IT'S THE INTENT OF WHAT WE PUT IN PLACE, UM, FOR THIS, UH, REDUCTION. SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING SPECIAL THAT WE'RE DOING. IT'S, IT'S PART OF WHAT WE PLANNED. MM-HMM . OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR, ARE Y'ALL ALL OKAY IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UH, THE PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT? AND SOME OF YOUR OTHER QUESTIONS MIGHT GET ANSWERED ALONG THE WAY. IS THAT OKAY? I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE THE COMMENT THAT LIKE, I REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION, WE BAKED THAT INTO THE ORDINANCE TO ENCOURAGE SOME OF OUR DEVELOPERS TO CREATE MORE OPEN SPACE LIKE, LIKE A DOG PARK LIKE THAT. SO JUST HAVE ONE, ONE MORE QUESTION FOR, FOR LESLIE REAL QUICK ON THIS, ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IS THIS 30% FEE REDUCTION? IS THAT PART OF SOME OF OUR WORDING OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT CAME UP WITH? NO. SO WHEN THE PARK FEE ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED, NOVEMBER OF 2024, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, UM, THAT WAS A, UH, PROPOSAL BY CITY COUNCIL. UM, IF YOU RECALL, THE LAND VALUE WAS VERY, VERY HIGH. AND IT SET OUR FEES BECAUSE THIS WHOLE FEE IS BASED UPON OUR AVERAGE LAND VALUE IN ADDISON. AND BECAUSE OUR LAND VALUE WAS VERY, VERY HIGH, UM, THE A HUNDRED PERCENT FEE RATE, UM, I'M, I'M GONNA USE THE TERM, PRICED US OUT COMPETITIVELY WITH SOME OTHER CITIES USING THIS, THIS MODEL. UM, AND SO THE INTENT AT THAT TIME WAS, UM, THAT COUNCIL WANTED TO DO A 30% OVERALL REDUCTION. SO FOR UM, PROJECTS WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY APPLY THE 70%, UM, OF THE VALUE FOR THE FEES. I DUNNO IF I ARTICULATED THAT VERY WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO DO I HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT? YES, THE APPLICANT DOES. THAT'S ASK THEM TO COME UP NOW. IF YOU WOULD MAKE SURE AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SURE. I'M TIM HARRIS. I'M WITH ROSEWOOD PROPERTY COMPANY. UH, OUR ADDRESS IS 2101 CEDAR SPRINGS ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS. UM, GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME. UM, AGAIN, I'M TIM HARRIS WITH ROSEWOOD. I'M JOINED WITH DAVID GOLIS AND MY COLLEAGUE. UM, WE'RE GONNA SPLIT THE PRESENTATION, TALK ABOUT A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS HERE TO DISCUSS THIS, UM, PROPOSAL TO REZONE AND REDEVELOP THE MOTEL SIX SITE AND THE VACANT LAND BEHIND IT. UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF. I'VE BEEN AT ROSEWOOD FOR SIX YEARS AND PRIOR TO BEING AT ROSEWOOD, ACTUALLY SPENT SEVERAL YEARS AT AM EMILY RESIDENTIAL. SO I WAS ACTUALLY A PART OF AM EMILY ADDISON AND, UM, THE START OF AMIE TREE HOUSE. SO, UM, I'VE BEEN WATCHING AND A PART OF ADDISON FOR, UH, OVER A DECADE AND, UM, KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE TOWN, UM, AS WELL AS WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN THE, IN THE TOWN. UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ROSEWOOD PROPERTY COMPANY. UM, WE WERE STARTING IN THE 1970S BY CAROLINE ROSE HUNT, PART OF THE LARGER HUNT FAMILY IN DALLAS. UM, WE'VE DEVELOPED, OWNED AND OPERATED HIGH QUALITY REAL ESTATE WITH THROUGHOUT TEXAS. UM, SINCE THAT TIME, UH, WE WERE WELL KNOWN FOR THE ROSEWOOD HOTEL PLATFORM, WHICH WE OPERATED FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS AND SOLD IN 2011. UM, WE ARE KNOWN FOR ASSEMBLING THE 10 ACRES TO CREATE THE CRESCENT IN UPTOWN AND, UH, CREATE THAT WALKABLE MIXED USE DISTRICT THAT WE KNOW TODAY. UM, WE'RE ALSO INVOLVED IN MASTER PLAN COMMUNITIES, MULTIFAMILY TOWN, HOME LOT DEVELOPMENT, INDUSTRIAL SELF STORAGE, AS WELL AS A LITTLE BIT OF RETAIL AND OFFICE. SO WE, WE'VE TOUCHED A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. UM, I'M NOT SPEND TOO MUCH TIME. DO YOU HAVE, SORRY. OH, UM, I'M NOT GONNA SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THE LOCATION 'CAUSE THAT WAS DONE, UH, VERY WELL BY LESLIE. UM, THIS IS 4.36 ACRES, THE MOTEL SIX AND OLD DENNY'S SITE. IT WAS BUILT IN AROUND 1979. UM, IT'S APPROACHING ABOUT 50 YEARS OLD AND NEARING THE END OF ITS USEFUL LIFE. AND ADDISON'S 2013 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IDENTIFIED THE PROPERTY AS BEING IN NEED OF SERIOUS REMODEL OR REDEVELOPMENT, UM, 13 YEARS AGO. UH, THE CURRENT ZONING LIMITS IT TO HOTEL AND RESTAURANT USES. UM, THERE'S THE VACANT LAND, WHICH WE'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO CLARIFY. UM, IN THE BACK, THAT'S 1.8 ACRES. SO THIS IS ASSEMBLING A COUPLE TRACKS. UM, IT FROM TO OUR KNOWLEDGE AND, UM, OUR DUE DILIGENCE, WE DON'T THINK IT'S EVER BEEN DEVELOPED. UM, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL IN 2017 FOR SELF-STORAGE THAT I REMEMBER THAT, UH, WAS DECLINED. I THINK THE SIZE, THE VISIBILITY AND THE ACCESS IS REALLY HARD TO MAKE IT DEVELOP ON ITS OWN. UM, SO COMBINE, IT'S ABOUT 6.2 [02:10:01] ACRES. UM, AND WE WERE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO REPRESENT MORE THAN A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS A NEW, UH, INVESTMENT ADDISON REPLACING THESE TWO SITES. UM, THIS, THERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF, OF THE SIZE EXIST TODAY. I THINK THESE PHOTOS KIND OF CAUGHT IT ON A GOOD DAY, GOOD HAIR DAY. UM, I THINK IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT MORE FAVORABLE THAN, THAN THE CONDITIONS YOU'D PROBABLY SEE IF YOU DROVE THE SITE TODAY. UM, I'M GONNA TALK HIT ON PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, POLICE CHIEF MENTIONED. YOU GUYS TALKED THERE. THERE HAVE BEEN 569 CALLS FOR POLICE FIRE AND EMS SERVICE OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS. AT THIS SITE, IT'S AN AVERAGE OF FIVE PER WEEK. UM, THE TRANSIENT NIGHT TO NIGHT LODGING DRAWS OUT A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF ACTIVITY THAN MULTIFAMILY AND OTHER USES. UM, UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, THIS IS, THIS USE IS ILLEGAL OR IS LEGAL AND CAN CONTINUE HERE INDEFINITELY. UM, AND OUTSIDE OF MULTIFAMILY REDEVELOPMENT, THE EXISTING MOTEL IS PROBABLY THE HIGHEST LAND LAND USE AS IT STANDS TODAY. UM, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A HIGH-END APARTMENT RESIDENCE WITH RESIDENT SCREENING FULL-TIME ONSITE PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT TEAM CONTROLLED BUILDING AND GARAGE ACCESS SITE LIGHTING THROUGHOUT CAMERA COVERAGE THROUGHOUT, UM, BUILDING WIDE WIFI THROUGHOUT. UM, WE OWN OUR COMMUNITIES LONG TERM AND WE SET A HIGH STANDARD FOR ALL OF OUR PROPERTY MANAGERS. UM, THERE'S PROBABLY 10 PROPERTY MANAGERS. THE CITY OF OF DALLAS. WE ONLY REALLY ENTERTAIN ABOUT THREE OF 'EM BECAUSE THERE'S PROBABLY ONLY ABOUT THREE THAT MEET OUR STANDARDS. UM, I THINK REDEVELOPMENT IS THE BEST PATH FORWARD. AND THIS, YOU KNOW, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY PATTERN ON THE SITE, UM, ALONG WITH THIS CRIME IMPACT IS ALSO A FISCAL IMPACT. BOTH PARCELS GENERATE A COMBINED $35,000 ANNUALLY IN TAX REVENUE. UM, WITH THE 569 CALLS FOR SERVICE OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF IS ESTIMATED ABOUT $303,000. IT COSTS THE CITY, WHICH IS 10 TIMES THE PROPERTY TAXES. UM, THAT'S FROM THE ADDISON POLICE, UM, CALLS FOR SERVICE DATA, UM, AND THE ADDISON PD ANNUAL REPORT. UM, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE A 20 TIMES INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. IT WOULD MATERIALLY REDUCE THE DEBT PER CAPITA ALONG WITH THE DEMAND ON THE POLICE FIRE AND EMS, UM, IN ADVANCE, AS IN 2050. IT SAYS MULTIFAMILY IS THE MOST PRODUCTIVE LAND USE TYPE, PROVIDING MORE REVENUE PER ACRE IN EACH CALCULATION. UM, AND IN THE TOP RIGHT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE HEAT MAP OF THIS IS CRIME ACTIVITY IS THIS HEAT MAP. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT, UH, THIS SITE'S KIND OF SITTING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ONE OF THE WORST AREAS IN ASEN. UM, I WANNA HIT ON POLICY ALIGNMENT, UM, WHICH LESLIE DID REALLY WELL, SO I WON'T SPEAK TOO LONG ABOUT IT. BUT IN ADDISON 2050, THIS SITE IS CATEGORIZED AS AN URBAN VILLAGE, UM, WALKABLE, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT, BUILDINGS CLOSER TO THE STREET, MEDIUM HIGH INTENSITY URBAN APARTMENTS, UM, ALONG THE SPECTRUM OF CHANGE. IT'S ON THE DEVELOP OR REDEVELOP, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST CATEGORY OF CHANGE IN ADDISON. UM, ADVANCED ADDISON 2050. SO IT'S INTENDED FOR SIGNIFICANT REDEVELOPMENT. SO OUR PROPOSALS GROUNDED IN ADVANCE. ADDISON 2050, OBVIOUSLY TOWN STAFF, ELECTED OFFICIALS, RESIDENTS INVESTED A LOT OF TIME AND WORK COMING UP WITH THAT PLAN. UM, AND YOU KNOW, THIS PROPOSAL IS DESIGNED TO HELP DELIVER THAT, THAT VISION. UM, ANOTHER THOUGHT IS THAT JUST THIS EXISTING MOTEL IS NOT THAT VISION AND IT, IT'S NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE REST OF OF ADDISON. AND, UM, WITH THAT I'LL HAND IT OVER TO DAVID AND HE'S GONNA TALK MORE ABOUT OUR, WHAT OUR PLANS ARE FOR THE SITE. THANK YOU. DAVID GOLIS WITH APPLICANT ROSEWOOD 2101 CEDAR SPRINGS ROAD IN DALLAS. UH, TO GET INTO THE SITE PLAN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER FOR YOU ALL, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, WE'RE PLANNING FOR A FIVE STORY MIDRISE PRODUCT, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH M THREE ZONING DESIGNATION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PD. AND IT WILL INCLUDE A STRUCTURED PARKING GARAGE, WHICH IS, UM, WRAPPED WITH UNITS. SO IT'S HIDDEN FROM VIEW FROM THE GROUND LEVEL. IT'LL FEATURE 380 APARTMENT HOMES WITH ALMOST A HUNDRED HOMES THAT ARE TWO TO THREE BEDROOM FLOOR PLANS, WHICH I THINK IS DIFFERENTIATED AS SEVERAL OF OUR COMPETITORS HAVE NO THREE BEDROOM FLOOR PLANS HERE. WE'LL HAVE SOME GROUND FLOOR HOMES THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE FROM THE EXTERIOR RESORT STYLE AMENITIES, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO LATER ON. AMPLE BIKE PARKING, WE PLAN TO BUILD TO NGBS BRONZE LEVEL, UM, BUILDING STANDARDS AND, UH, OFFER EV CHARGING SPACES. AND WE ALSO FEATURING EXTERIOR WITH OVER 70% BRICK AND ACTUALLY UP TO 93% ON BELTLINE ROAD, AS YOU'LL SEE HERE IN THE SLIDE. NEXT ONTO THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN, UH, SITE PLAN. WE, UH, AS YOU'LL SEE HERE, UH, [02:15:01] OFFERING A LOT OF OPEN SPACE AND TRAIL CONNECTIVITY. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT FROM EARLY CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF, WE NOTED AS BEING VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM. AND THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS AND MEETINGS WITH STAFF, UM, TO THE SITE PLAN, CAME UP WITH THE PLAN YOU SEE HERE. AND SO THAT FEATURES THE ALMOST 0.8 ACRE DOG PARK TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER, A TRAIL CONNECTION ON THE NORTH, UM, WHICH WILL, YOU KNOW, TIE INTO THE COTTON BELT TRAIL. AND ALSO RIGHT ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING THERE YOU'LL SEE A PEDESTRIAN PATH, WHICH IS SOMETHING NEW THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE THAT WILL ALLOW US TO CREATE, UH, CONNECTIVITY FROM BELTLINE ROAD NORTH TO ARAPAHOE. IN TOTAL, WE'RE, UH, PLANNING TO INVEST $930,000 INTO THIS PRIVATE PARK AND OPEN SPACE. UH, YOU'LL NOTE THIS CAME UP AS PART OF THE, UM, PARK FEE WAIVER. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING IN OVER $200,000 MORE INTO THIS PROJECT FOR THE PRIVATE PARKS AND OPEN SPACES THAN WE WOULD OTHERWISE PAY FOR THE PARK FEES. AND WE'RE ALSO TRIPLING THE M THREE, UH, MINIMUM LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT WITH 36% HERE. UH, AGAIN, ALL THESE OUTDOOR AMENITIES ALL IN THE NAME OF TRYING TO SUPPORT THE WALKABILITY AND CONNECTIVITY GOALS OF ADVANCED ADDISON 2050. UH, JUST TO STEP BACK FROM A BIG PICTURE PERSPECTIVE, UM, I THINK THE PARK AND TRAIL SYSTEM, UH, REALLY SETS ADDISON IN PART FROM ITS PEERS. AND YOU COULD SEE HERE THAT WE'RE FE FEATURED IN A REALLY CRITICAL LOCATION. SO, UM, THE ABILITY TO HELP TIE AND CONNECT, UM, FROM EAST TO ARAPAHOE PARK, WHICH IS A FIVE MINUTE WALK FARTHER DOWN TO THE DART STATION AND THE, YOU KNOW, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THERE AND OF COURSE TO ADDISON CIRCLE PARK AND THEN TO THE WEST KIND OF SOUTHWEST, FURTHER DOWN THE COTTON BELT TO, UM, DOME PARK, TO REDDING TRAIL, UM, AND SOME OF THOSE PLANS. SO, AND I THINK WITH THE, UM, ADDITIONAL PEDESTRIAN PATH, WE'RE NOT ONLY CONNECTING EAST TO WEST HERE, BUT ALSO NORTH TO SOUTH TO ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, MORE SPACE AND CONNECTIVITY, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF POTENTIAL FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT HERE IN THIS CORRIDOR. UH, TALKING ABOUT THE ROSEWOOD STANDARD, UH, TIM DID A GOOD JOB OF, UH, PROVIDING SOME OF THE BACKGROUND FOR ROSEWOOD, BUT THE ROSEWOOD HOTELS ARE PART OF OUR DNA, THEY'RE PART OF THE STANDARD OF EXCELLENCE THAT WE LOOK TO UPHOLD IN ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES, AND THAT'S REALLY BUILT AROUND PROVIDING THE BEST POSSIBLE RESONANT EXPERIENCE, UH, FOR PEOPLE AT OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S NOT ONLY LUXURY UNIT FINISHES AND AMENITIES, BUT IT'S ALSO JUST SOME OF THE THOUGHTFULNESS THAT CREATE THE TOUCH AND FEEL OF, UH, LIVING AT THAT PROPERTY. IN ADDITION, UH, I THINK THE LOOKING BEHIND THE WALLS ON THINGS LIKE WATERPROOFING AND SOUNDPROOFING AS LONG-TERM MINDED, UM, DEVELOPERS AND INVESTORS, UH, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS AND GO ABOVE AND BEYOND AND, UH, ALL OF THIS TO, IN ADDITION TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING BEING A HIGH END OF BRICK AND MASONRY ON ALL OF OURS SO THAT THEY'RE BUILT TO LAST AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK GOOD FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, 20 AND 30 DOWN THE LINE. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, HERE'S OUR RENDERING OF THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. THE VANTAGE POINT HERE IS KIND OF FROM THE SOUTHWEST OF THE BUILDING. SO CLOSER TO THE BELTLINE AND MIDWAY INTERSECTION, UH, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN AT THIS POINT WE'RE 92 90 3% BRICK EXTERIOR. UH, YOU'RE SEEING A URBAN EDGE THAT'S DESIGNED TO MEET M THREE STANDARDS COMING CLOSER TO BELTLINE ROAD, UM, AND ALSO AN UNDULATION IN THE BUILDING THAT I THINK WILL CREATE INTEREST AND VARIABILITY FOR THAT CURB APPEAL THAT WE WANT OFF OF BELTLINE ROAD. WE'RE ALSO PLANNING TO SOMEWHAT SEE HERE A LUXURY HOTEL, LIKE GRAND ENTRANCE THAT I THINK WILL ESTABLISH A SENSE OF ARRIVAL AND REALLY SET THIS APART AND ELEVATE THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR. GO TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS, UH, HERE IN DFW. THE LUDLOW, UH, IN PLANO IS PART OF OUR MASTER PLAN. UH, HERITAGE CREEKSIDE THAT WON DALLAS BUSINESS JOURNAL'S MULTIFAMILY PROJECT OF THE YEAR IN 2023. THE BUCKLEY NEXTDOOR WAS A FINALIST FOR THE SAME, UH, AWARD THIS PAST YEAR. PENROSE IN FRISCO IN SOUTH STONE YARDS IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION SET FOR OPENING, UH, MID MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR. AND THE GILMAN IN LAS COLINAS, UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOW LEASING THERE, SO IF YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO'S LOOKING FOR AN APARTMENT, PLEASE SEND THEM OUR WAY. UH, BUT ALL OF THIS, AND JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU THAT WE'VE BUILT IN SOME OF YOUR PEER NEIGHBORING CITIES AND WE'VE BEEN WELL RECEIVED THERE. UH, FOR THE INTERIORS, OBVIOUSLY YOU WON'T SEE THIS FROM THE OUTSIDE, BUT I WANTED TO PAINT A PICTURE FOR YOU ALL OF KINDA WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING ON THE HIGHER END HERE. QUARTZ COUNTERTOPS AND DESIGNER BACKSPLASHES WOOD STYLE FLOORING, STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCES, SMART HOME TECHNOLOGY, AND THEN THE BUILT IN WORK FROM HOME SPACES THAT I THINK HAVE BEEN REALLY VALUABLE TO OUR RESIDENTS. AND AGAIN, TRY TO, UM, ENHANCE THAT RESIDENT EXPERIENCE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE. AND I'LL KIND OF LET THE PICTURES SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES ON THESE FOLLOWING SLIDES, BUT OUR AMENITIES [02:20:01] ARE A VERY BIG, UM, POINT THAT WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON NOT ONLY OFFERING MORE SPACE, BUT VERY USABLE AND PROGRAM SPACE THAT IN TURN BECOME, UH, AN EXTENSION OF THE LIVING SPACE FOR EACH OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND SO YOU'LL SEE RESORT STYLE POOLS, OUR COWORKING SPACES, CLUB ROOMS, AND UH, STATE OF THE ART, FITNESS AND WELLNESS, UH, CENTERS WHERE ON OUR LAST COUPLE PROJECTS WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE ON WHAT ARE OUR RESIDENTS REALLY DESIRING, PROVIDING SAUNAS AND COAL PLUNGES AS ONE EXAMPLE. UH, WE'RE PET FRIENDLY OF COURSE WITH OUR DOG PARKS AND PET SPAS AND ALSO PROVIDE EV CHARGING AND BIKE STORAGE. AND I'LL NOTE THAT THESE ARE ACTUAL ROSEWOOD COMMUNITIES HERE THAT YOU'RE SEEING IN ALL OF THESE PICTURES. UM, SOME MORE PHOTOS, POKER LOUNGE AT ONE OF OUR COMMUNITIES IN THE TOP MIDDLE AT THE EXPANSIVE FITNESS CENTER ON THE TOP RIGHT ON THE BOTTOM LEFT. UM, WE TRY TO CREATE KIND OF HOTEL-LIKE LOBBIES FOR EACH OF OUR COMMUNITIES, UH, FOR THE LEASING CENTERS AT THE ENTRANCE OF OUR BUILDINGS. AND OF COURSE, GOLF SIMULATORS ARE ALWAYS A VERY POPULAR ONE FOR US. AND WITH THESE HIGHER END OFFERINGS. DID WANT TO PROVIDE SOME MORE DETAIL ON JUST SOME OF THE RENT AND INCOME QUALIFICATIONS. AND I WILL NOTE THAT ALL OF OUR APPLICANTS MUST EARN AT LEAST THREE TIMES MONTHLY BASE RENT ANNUALIZED, AND THEY ALL GO THROUGH COMPLETE CREDIT, CRIMINAL AND RENTAL HISTORY SCREENING. AND SO GIVEN WHERE WE'RE TARGETING ON RENTS, UM, MINIMUM QUALIFYING INCOMES HERE ARE AT 70,000 FOR STUDIOS UP TO 120, 150,000 ON OUR TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS. SO KIND OF IN THAT $94,000 RANGE ON AVERAGE. HOWEVER, THE RENT TO INCOME RATIO WITHIN DFW AS A WHOLE IS KIND OF 22 TO 24%. SO REALISTICALLY IT'S ACTUALLY EVEN IN EXCESS OF THE NUMBERS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. AND I'LL ALSO NOTE AS A, A QUESTION AROSE EARLIER, ROSEWOODS POLICY DOES NOT PERMIT UNITS TO BE LEASED AS SHORT TERM RENTALS AS WE KNOW SOME COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA MAY BE DOING. UH, WE WILL OBVIOUSLY HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS, BUT DID WANT TO ADDRESS SOME TOPICS THAT CAME UP EITHER IN STAFF REPORT P AND Z AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING LAST WEEK, WHICH, OR LAST MONTH, WHICH WAS GREAT AND VERY, UH, PRODUCTIVE. WE HAVE A, UH, UNDERSTAND, OBVIOUSLY AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE ADDISON FEE SIMPLE HOUSING POLICY AND THE DESIRE TO INCREASE THE HOME OWNERSHIP, UH, RATE WITHIN ADDISON. UH, WE ALSO KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY GOAL OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON. AND SO THE POLICY DOES ACCOUNT FOR POTENTIAL EXCEPTIONAL PROJECTS TO THAT, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE NAME OF PURSUING PROJECTS THAT REPRESENT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF EACH PROPERTY AND STAFF'S REPORT, UH, NOTED THIS AND OBVIOUSLY DUE TO THE LOCATION OF OUR PROPERTY FEE, SIMPLE OWNERSHIP IS UNLIKELY TO BE FEASIBLE. SO WE WANTED TO HIT ON A FEW, UM, REASONS WHY WE SEE THIS AS AN EXCEPTIONAL, UH, PROJECT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE HOUSING POLICY. ONE IS THAT FEE SIMPLE IS NOT FEASIBLE OR COMPATIBLE AT THIS SITE AS STAFF REPORT SITES THINK INCOMPATIBLE ADJACENT LAND USES LIKE HOTELS AND CAR DEALERSHIP, IT'S NOT A FIT. AND WE'VE ALSO GOTTEN, UM, CONFIRMATION OF THIS WITHIN THE MARKET AS WE'VE REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL OF THE MOST ACTIVE TOWNHOME BUILDERS IN DFW AND NONE OF THEM EXPRESS INTEREST AND THEY WOULD REQUIRE WELL ABOVE AREA COMPS, UM, IN SALE PRICES IN ORDER TO BE FEASIBLE HERE. TWO IS THE SUBSTANTIAL PUBLIC BENEFITS AND STAFF NOTES THAT THE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE DOG PARK, UH, AND THE TRAIL CONNECTIVITY ARE ELEMENTS THAT MIGHT BE DEEMED, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE AN EXCEPTIONAL PROJECT. WE'RE PUTTING IN, AGAIN, ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS IN INVEST IN IN PRIVATE PARK AND OPEN SPACE AMENITIES. AND WE'RE ALSO, UH, PROVIDING ACCESS INTO THE COTTON BELT TRAIL IN WHICH ADDISON HAS ALREADY INVESTED HEAVILY IN FOR GOOD REASON. WE'RE ALSO, UH, HOPEFULLY PROVIDING A SUBSTANTIAL DECREASE IN DEMAND FOR POLICE, FIRE AND EMS SERVICES, AS WELL AS A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN OUR TAX IN TAX REVENUE FOR ADDISON. THIRD, IT'S, UH, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CREATING A MORE WALKABLE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. AND IN, IN THIS CASE, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE SURROUNDING USES A FEE SIMPLE PRODUCT HERE WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE STANDALONE NON-INTEGRATED USE THAT THE POLICY WARNS AGAINST. LASTLY, UM, IT IS AS NOTED IN THE POLICY, UM, VERBIAGE, IT IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY. WE'RE FULFILLING THE COMP PLANS, UH, DESIGNATION FOR SIGNIFICANT REDEVELOPMENT HERE, AND WE'RE REPLACING A VACANT DENNY'S AND A 1970S MOTEL WITH A BEST IN CLASS LUXURY REDEVELOPMENT THAT SUPPORTS THE SURROUNDING RETAIL. LASTLY, THERE WERE NO ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED BASED ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY. AND SO TO SUMMARIZE, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET DATA, THE SITE CONDITIONS AND THE COMP PLAN ALL SUPPORTED THIS PROPOSAL AS AN EXCEPTIONAL PROJECT UNDER THE HOUSING POLICY. UM, SOME QUESTIONS WE GOT, ESPECIALLY DURING THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS HERE ON WHY MULTIFAMILY AND WHY NOT SOME OTHER USES. UH, AND REALLY BOILS DOWN [02:25:01] TO THE TOP LEFT CORNER HERE, UH, UNDER HOTEL. AND THAT IS THAT THE EXISTING MOTEL REMAINS VIABLE TODAY. SO OUTSIDE OF THE MULTIFAMILY REDEVELOPMENT, UH, THIS, THAT REMAINS THE HIGHEST MARKET VALUE AND WOULD REMAIN, UH, OPERATING OR SOLD AS THE MOTEL USE, UH, FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. UH, I ALREADY TOUCHED ON SOME OF THE FOR SALE TOWN HOMES WITH LIMITED INTEREST ECONOMICS, UH, NOT BEING VIABLE. AND REALLY, EVEN IF IT WERE TO BE A HIGH DENSITY TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT EVEN RAISING THE TOWN'S FEE. SIMPLE OWNERSHIP, UH, BY 1% SELF-STORAGE HAS BEEN TRIED HERE AND I THINK FOR GOOD REASON SHOT DOWN, IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN. SENIOR HOUSING. UM, THIS DEMAND HAS LARGELY BEEN SERVED BY EXISTING COMMUNITIES NEARBY. THE LOCATION ISN'T QUITE A FIT HERE. UM, BOTH FROM, YOU KNOW, BEING MID-BLOCK AND THE LADDER SETTING AND ALSO NOT BEING ON A TOLLWAY CORRIDOR WHERE THERE'S BETTER ACCESS. AND THOSE DEVELOPERS ARE REALLY JUST CHASING THE DEMOGRAPHICS ON RETAIL. YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIMITED BELT BELTLINE FRONTAGE, WHICH MAKES THE SITE LESS VISIBLE AND THEREFORE LESS SUITABLE FOR RETAIL. BUT ALSO WE'RE SURROUNDED BY A TON OF OTHER, UH, RETAIL HERE, UH, WITHIN ONE OF THE MOST COMPETITIVE RETAIL SUB MARKETS. WE'D RATHER SUPPORT THEM THAN TRY TO COMPETE AGAINST THEM. AND LASTLY, ON OFFICE, UH, THIS IS MID BLACK MID-BLOCK, SO IT LACKS THE ACCESS AND VISIBILITY THAT OFFICE REQUIRES. AND AS MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW FROM JUST MARKET PERSPECTIVE ON OFFICE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, UM, FINANCING FOR SPECULATIVE GROUND UP OFFICE IS RARE TO NON-EXISTENT IN TODAY'S MARKET. UH, STAFF TOUCHED ON THE TRAFFIC IMPACT REPORT, SO I WON'T GO TOO MUCH DEEPER THERE, BUT BELTLINE AND MIDWAY IS ONE OF THE BUSIEST INTERSECTIONS IN ADDISON. IT CARRIES 30,000 TO 40,000 VEHICLES PER DAY. AND AGAINST THAT VOLUME, THE TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REALLY PRODUCES A NEGLIGIBLE INCREASE WITH NO MEANINGFUL IMPACT TO EITHER ARTERIAL. THE CURRENT SERVICE LEVEL REMAINS THE SAME. THERE'S NO MITIGATION, UM, RECOMMENDED AT THE INTERSECTIONS OR THE SITE DRIVEWAYS INTO THE SITE. AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY A RESULT OF ADDISON'S INVESTMENT IN ITS TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH HAS PRIMED ITSELF FOR FEATURE GROWTH ALONG THESE MAJOR ROADWAYS. SO, UH, REALLY IT'S, IT'S HARDLY NOTICED. AND JUST TO SUMMARIZE HERE ON SOME OF THE EXCEPTIONAL COMMUNITY BENEFITS PROVIDED BY THIS PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT, IT'S A HIGHER AND BETTER USE. WE'RE TRANSFORMING ONE OF THE OLDEST MOTELS INTO A CLASS A MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITY. IT PROVIDES FOR A SAFER COMMUNITY. WE'RE REPLACING A PERSISTENT SOURCE OF LOCAL CRIME WITH MANAGED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. IT PROVIDES SIGNIFICANT TAX REVENUE, MATERIALLY HIGHER, UH, THAN WHAT'S THERE TODAY. WE SEE IT AS A CORRIDOR INVESTMENT CATALYST. SO BY REMOVING AN AGING PROPERTY AND DEVELOPING OUR COMMUNITY, WE THINK WE'LL LIFT THE SURROUNDING LAND VALUES, MAKING REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS CORRIDOR ACHIEVABLE. AND WE HOPE TO SEE THAT AND POTENTIALLY BE A PART OF IT IN THE FUTURE. IT SUPPORTS EXISTING RETAIL. UM, SO WE'RE ADDING A BASE OF RESONANCE WITH SPENDING POWER TO, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT RESTAURANTS AND SHOPS IN THIS CORRIDOR SO THAT NOT ONLY WILL THEY STAY IN BUSINESS, BUT HOPEFULLY THRIVE LONG TERM. UH, JOBS AND HOUSING BALANCE IS SOMETHING THAT EMPLOYERS ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE PLACES NEARBY THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES CAN LIVE, UM, AND GOOD OPTIONS AT THAT. AND SO WE'RE SEE THIS AS, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING THOSE AND ALSO SUPPORTING SOME OF THE, UH, RETAIL AND TRANSPORTATION NEARBY. UH, JUST TO ROUND IT OUT, UH, IT'S A COMPATIBLE LOCATION. NOT ONLY IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS SPECIFIC SITE, BUT WE'RE SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL USES. AND SO WE'RE BUFFERED FROM SINGLE FAMILY IMPACT BY BELTLINE. AND MIDWAY THAT MAJOR INTERSECTION THERE, IT'S A SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT. SO WE'RE UPDATING SYSTEMS AND GREEN DESIGN IN PLACE OF THE AGING MOTEL. AND LASTLY, UH, WOULD BE THE ROSEWOODS QUALITY AND OWNERSHIP. WE'RE PROVIDING DURABLE TOP OF MARKET HOUSING AND WE PLAN TO HOLD THIS LONG TERM. SO WE SEE THIS AS LONG-TERM INVESTMENT IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND WE HOPE TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO EVERYONE HERE NEARBY. AND SO JUST TO SUMMARIZE WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, PICTURE ON THE LEFT TO THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS TO REZONE AND REPLACE A 1970S ERA MOTEL WITH THE FINEST COMMUNITY IN ADDISON. AND I KNOW THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS, BUT I WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF OUR PROPOSAL. THANK YOU, DAVID. THANK YOU, TIM. I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS. MARLON, I'LL CALL ON YOU FIRST. YEAH, THANK YOU. UM, TIM, DAVID, EITHER, EITHER ONE OF YOU. UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT'S GOT THAT ILLUSTRATES, UH, THE PEDESTRIAN, UH, PATH THROUGH THE, WHAT I'D CALL THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT? SO THERE YOU GO. PERFECT. UM, AND SO IF YOU TAKE THAT PATH TO THE NORTH IS, ARE YOU ALL PLANNING TO, TO UH, HAVE SOME GATE? UH, YEAH, YEAH. I'M HAPPY TO CLARIFY WHAT ALL WE'RE DOING HERE. YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S A MIDDLE COMBINE FOR THE ANSWERS Y'ALL ARE LOOKING FOR. YEP. SO THE IDEA IS REALLY TO CREATE A PEDESTRIAN PATH FROM BELTLINE ALL THE WAY [02:30:01] TO ARAPAHO. NOW, ARAPAHO'S ELEVATED, UH, ESPECIALLY ON THE, THE TOP LEFT CORNER, IT'S LIKE TWO STORIES ELEVATED. 'CAUSE GETTING UP OVER WHERE IT, WHERE IT GOES OVER MIDWAY. SO, UM, THE IDEA IS REALLY KIND OF IMPROVE RIGHT UP TO THAT EDGE TO MAKE IT MORE WALKABLE FRIENDLY, ALLOW A NORTH AND SOUTH CONNECTION TO IT. AND THEN YOU CAN GO UP UNDERNEATH THE ARAPAHO PART AND GET ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF ARAPAHO. OR YOU CAN COME DOWN THIS SOUTHERN PART RIGHT HERE UP AGAINST THE, UP AGAINST FROM OUR, YOU KNOW, BUILDING LINE OR OUR BUILDING LINE TO, UM, I GUESS ARAPAHO WE'RE STARTING TO COME BACK DOWN. WE'LL HAVE A WROUGHT IRON SEAL FENCE, LIKE A REAL NICE CLASSIC LOOKING FENCE ALONG THAT WAY JUST TO PROVIDE SOME, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE WALKING RIGHT UP TO SOMEONE'S DOOR. UM, AND THEN THE DOG PARK, ALL THIS IS KIND OF OPEN FREE FLOWING SO YOU CAN GET ALL AROUND WELL LIT, MEANDERING, WALKWAYS, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO THE INTENT IS THAT IF YOU'RE JUST WALKING BY AND YOU'RE LIKE, NO, WHAT I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THAT TRAIL CONNECTION. YOU COULD WALK THROUGH OUR EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, YOU COULD WALK THROUGH THE WESTERN SIDE, BUT THAT EASTERN SIDE'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, NO ROAD NEXT TO IT. KIND OF, YOU KNOW, REAL WELCOMING. YEAH, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT'S REALLY SMART, ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT COTTON BELT TRAIL IS COMING THROUGH. SO I'M GONNA ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN. SO RIGHT THERE AT THAT NORTH PART WHERE IT SAYS TRAIL CONNECTION, YOU'VE GOT A METAL FENCE, IT'S ABOUT SIX FEET HIGH OR SO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, BUT ARE YOU GONNA PUT A GATE IN THAT CURRENT FENCE? YEAH, IT'LL, IT'LL BE OPEN. YOU CAN WALK THROUGH, IF THERE'S A GATE, YOU'LL WALK THROUGH IT. OKAY. YOU ALL ARE GONNA BE, IT'S JUST MORE LIKE A VISUAL REPRESENTATION THAT THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, NOT, SO IF IT MAKES SENSE, YOU'D JUST WALK RIGHT INTO SOMEONE'S FRONT DOOR. IF WE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING THAT, THAT WOULD BE YOUR, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY LINES, BUT WOULD IF, WOULD THAT BE YOUR PROPERTY? WOULD THAT BE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR FENCE? IT'S FENCE. IT'S ON OUR PROPERTY. IT IS. PEOPLE WOULD BE WALKING THROUGH IT. OKAY. UM, AND THEN, UH, AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S SMART. SO ON THAT KIND OF THE SAME THOUGHT THERE ON THAT NORTHERN UH, BORDER, WHAT IS, WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT BUFFER LOOK LIKE? OR IS THAT JUST SHRUBS OR IS THERE A, A WOOD FENCE OR STEEL THAT'S, THAT'S ALL STEEL FENCE OR WHAT DO WE, WHAT'S GONNA, IT'S ALL TREES ALL ALONG THERE. MM-HMM . UM, AND THEN AGAIN, THERE'S A, THERE'S KIND OF A WROUGHT IRON FENCE ALONG THAT, THAT NORTHERN HE KEEP, YOU KEEP THE FENCE AND THEN, AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SHRUB LINE. YEAH. OKAY. YES SIR. OKAY, THANKS. MM-HMM . AND THEN, UM, DAN, THE 40,000 IS FOR LIKE ALL THE LIGHTING JUST IN THAT DOG PARK, SO IT'S WELL LIT ALL NIGHT LONG. YOU KINDA ASK, THERE'S, THERE'S SHOWN LIKE A ONE THAT'S KIND OF A LUMP SUM NUMBER, SO IT'S JUST WELL LIT 24 7. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NURSES AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WORK, YOU KNOW, GET OFF WORK AT TWO IN THE MORNING 'CAUSE THEY WORK AT PARKLAND OR SOMETHING. AND THE IDEA IS THAT THEY COULD TAKE THEIR DOG AND IT FEELS NICE. WELL LIT, SAFE ALL OUT. IT WAS A UNIT. RIGHT. SO IT WASN'T JUST ONE ACTUAL, JUST YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET. $30,000 FOR LIGHTING. GREAT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . YEP. WE'RE RANDY. THANK YOU. UM, HOW LONG HAS YOUR COMPANY BEEN BUILDING APARTMENTS? UM, BETWEEN BUILDING AND INVESTING? BUILDING? UM, BUILDING ABOUT SIX YEARS. OKAY. WITH PARTNERS WE'VE BEEN BUILDING FOR OVER 20 YEARS. WELL, YOU'VE BEEN BUILDING OTHER THINGS FOR 20 YEARS. I'M TALKING ABOUT APARTMENT COMPLEXES. YEAH. APARTMENT COMMUNITIES. YEP. OKAY. AND YOU SAY YOU'RE, YOU OWN PROPERTY LONG TERM. YES, SIR. WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF LONG TERM? UM, EVERYTHING WE HAVE BUILT OURSELVES TO DATE WE HAVEN'T SOLD. OKAY. UM, LONG TERM IS 10. WHICH ONES HAVE YOU BUILT YOURSELF IS WHAT I'M ASKING. EVERYTHING IN THE LAST SIX YEARS AND THEN, UM, LONG TERM TO US IS 10 PLUS YEAR VISION. WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE 20 YEARS OLD. OKAY. OKAY. YOU SAY, I WANNA DRILL DOWN AS TO HOW MANY THAT YOU HAVE BUILT. YOU SAID FOR SIX YEARS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS GONNA TAKE THREE YEARS TO CONSTRUCT TWO TO THREE YEARS. SO HOW MANY PROPERTY APARTMENT COMPLEXES HAVE YOU DEVELOPED FROM TEAR DOWN TO, TO MOVE IN? ROSEWOOD US THIS TEAM IS, THIS WOULD BE APARTMENT NUMBER NINE OR 10. OKAY. OKAY. MM-HMM . UH, I AM A HUGE FAN OF YOUR PARENT COMPANY, DON'T GET ME WRONG. AND, UH, THI THIS IS NOTHING, NONE OF MY COMMENTS ARE DIRECTED AT YOUR COMPANY OR YOUR QUALITY. IT'S IN FACT THIS APARTMENT. UM, WHERE WOULD THE, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN FOR CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, ALL THE BIG TRUCKS, THE DUMP TRUCKS? WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR ENTRANCE AND EXIT PLANS TO, TO PREVENT A HUGE DISRUPTION ON BELTLINE? AND MIDWAY? YOU'VE ALREADY SAID IT'S ONE OF OUR BUSIEST, UH, INTERSECTIONS THERE. AND, UH, THIS IS GONNA BE A VERY LONG TERM PROJECT. IT'S GONNA BE A LONG TIME IN THE MAKING, SO YEAH. HOW CAN WE BE ASSURED THIS IS NOT GONNA SNARL THIS INTERSECTION? SURE. WELL, UM, IN THE TOWN [02:35:01] OF ADDISON, WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC PLANE, TYPICALLY WHEN WE PERMIT A PROJECT, HOW WE'RE GOING IN AND OUTTA THE SITE. UM, SO WE'D WORK WITH THE TOWN. I MEAN, WE, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T GONE AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE GONNA BUILD THIS. WE GOT A YEAR OF DESIGN AND PERMITTING AND WORKING WITH THE TOWN TO DO THAT. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, BELTLINE'S GONNA BE THE EASIEST IN AND OUT OF THIS, THIS PROPERTY. THERE'S ALSO AN EASEMENT BACK TO BELTLINE. AND, UM, WE REALLY COULDN'T GO BACK THROUGH ARAPAHO. IT'S ELEVATED AND WE'D ALSO BE GOING THROUGH SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY AND THAT'S NOT KIND. SO WE'D HAVE TO HANDLE IT THROUGH THE PROPERTY THAT WE OWN. AND THIS IS A CONCERN I WOULD HAVE NO MATTER WHAT WAS BEING BUILT THERE. YEP. THIS IS NOT DIRECTED AT YOU, BUT THIS, THAT IS A, AN INTERSECTION THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT IN THIS PROCESS. YES, SIR. UM, THIS IS JUST NOT A GOOD RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU'VE ALREADY, YOU'VE ALREADY PRESENTED, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF A COMMERCIAL AREA. IT'S ONE OF OUR HIGHLY DEVELOPED AREAS. I AM ALL IN FAVOR OF REDEVELOPING THIS, AND IF YOUR COMPANY WOULD GO AND PURCHASE A UNDERPERFORMING APARTMENT, I'D BE YOUR BIGGEST FAN TO, TO REBUILD WHEN THERE IS A CURRENT APARTMENT COMPLEX. NOT ON OUR DEVELOPABLE LAND. THANK YOU. OKAY, NEL. UM, SO TIM AND DAVID, UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR STATE-OF-THE-ART RECREATION FACILITIES. CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, WHAT SIZE IT WOULD BE IN THE, THE CAPACITY? SURE. FOR THE FITNESS CENTER MM-HMM . PARTICULARLY MM-HMM . UH, THEY'RE USUALLY ABOUT 3000 SQUARE FEET. UM, SAN ANTONIO, WE DID ONE THAT WAS 4,500 SQUARE FEET. UM, WE TOURED SOME, SOME MEMBERS, SOME FOLKS THROUGH, UM, A FITNESS FACILITY IN THAT WE HAD DONE IN PLANO THAT WAS ABOUT 2,500 SQUARE FEET. AND WHAT NORMALLY IS, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WITH, WITH THE FACILITY, IS IT GOING TO, AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, WITH 380 UNITS AND IF YOU'RE 92% OCCUPIED, WHAT DOES THAT NUMBER LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE I'M, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A FACILITY HERE, ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB HERE IN ADDISON. YEAH. SO I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING IF IT'S GONNA CAUSE US TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE COMING TO ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB, WHICH THEY CAN. I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE THE, THE, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT INCREASE, UM, OUR VISITORSHIP THERE. YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, OUR, OUR FITNESS FACILITIES, WHAT WE SEE A LOT OF TIMES IS VERY CONVENIENCE RELATED. IT'S, I'VE GOT 30 MINUTES AND IT'S HERE AND IT'S NICE AND I'M GONNA BANG OUT A WORKOUT. WE ALSO SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST CAN'T BE ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE. I MEAN, THIS WHOLE THING COULD BE FITNESS WORKOUT ROOMS FOR SPIN CLASSES OR YOGA OR WHATNOT. SO WE TRY TO DO AS BEST AS WE CAN. BUT I SAY THERE'S STILL PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA GO DO YOGA. YOU KNOW, AT THE TOWN OF ASINS YOGA CLASSES, THERE'S STILL GONNA BE PEOPLE WHO, UM, FRANKLY NOT, NOT MYSELF, BUT PEOPLE THAT CAN LIFT MORE WEIGHT THAN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO GO TO THE TOWN AND LIFT, YOU KNOW, THE A HUNDRED POUNDERS OR WHATEVER. AND THAT'S NOT ME OR MOST OF THE PEOPLE, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME. UM, BUT IT'S REALLY CONVENIENCE RELATED AND NICE THAT, HEY, IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE UP YOUR GYM MEMBERSHIP, YOU COULD MAKE IT WORK. UM, AND WE SEE THAT A LOT BECAUSE IT, IT IS SO NICE. THANK YOU. AND I AM REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT THE CONNECTION, THE TRAIL CONNECTION. SO I WON'T ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN, BUT I AM KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK. WHAT'S GONNA BE A DIVIDER OR IF IT'S GONNA BE A DIVIDER, HOW, YOU KNOW, WELL LIT IT WILL BE. UM, SO THOSE ARE SOME QUESTIONS STILL THAT I JUST HAD. YEAH, YEAH. UM, I'LL, I'LL FRAME IT LIKE THIS. OUR GOAL IS THAT IF A, UH, 25-YEAR-OLD ATTRACTIVE WOMAN CAME HOME FROM WORKING AT THREE IN THE MORNING AND WANTED TO WALK THEIR DOG AROUND OUR COMMUNITY, THAT SHE HAS CELL PHONE SERVICE, IT'S WELL LIT AND SHE FEELS GOOD. AND THAT THERE'S NO, THAT SHE DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S ANY SAFETY CONCERN OR ISSUE. SO DAY AND NIGHT, THE IDEA IS THAT'S A CLEAN PATH THAT'S WELL LIT, THAT YOU, THERE'S NO HIDDEN CORNERS, THERE'S NO FUNKY STUFF. ALL THIS HAS CAMERAS AROUND THE WHOLE THING. UM, SO THAT'S THE GOAL FROM LIKE A, A, A NIGHT, UH, PERSPECTIVE. AND THEN DURING THE DAY, I MEAN, THIS IS GONNA BE ALL LIT UP. TREES AND PATHS AND WELCOMING. I MEAN, THE IDEA IS REALLY TO, TO REALLY PROVIDE KIND OF AN OPENNESS, I THINK THAT MAKES THE COMMUNITY SAFER. WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAN WALK DOWN ANY ROAD OR THERE'S NOT A FEELING LIKE, I CAN'T GO THAT WAY, YOU ALL OF A SUDDEN FEEL SAFER. I THINK PEOPLE BEHAVE BETTER. UM, THE OTHER THING WE REALLY LIKE ABOUT, THERE'S A LOT OF EYES, IF YOU CAN TELL, WE'RE FACING OUT. THERE'S A LOT OF EYES ON THE STREET, THERE'S SOME SELF-POLICING THAT GOES ON THERE. WHEN THAT HAPPENS, YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH IN A, IN A CORNER. SO, THANK YOU [02:40:01] CHRIS. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN OUR TOWN AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN AN AREA THAT REALLY DOES NEED TO BE REDEVELOPED. UM, THERE'S, UH, THERE'S A RETAIL SITE TO THE WEST AND THERE'S ANOTHER PROPERTY TO THE EAST THAT I REALLY WAS HOPING YOU GUYS WOULD TAKE DOWN. UM, MAYBE THAT'S TO COME OR MAY, MAYBE WHAT YOU'RE DOING WILL BE A CATALYST FOR SOMETHING A WHOLE LOT BETTER IN THAT AREA, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE AREA THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE REDEVELOPED. SO I HOPE, UM, I HOPE THIS PASSES AND WE BECOME LONG-TERM PARTNERS. CHANEL TOUCHED ON MY QUESTION. UM, I, I LOVE THE IDEA OF THAT CONNECTIVITY. I THINK THAT CONNECTS, UH, SOME OF OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO THAT TRAIL THAT'S GONNA BE 26 MILES. AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF, IT'S GONNA GET A LOT OF USE ANOTHER WAY OF WE WELCOMING PEOPLE INTO OUR TOWN. SO GETTING YOUR FOLKS TO THE TRAIL AND OTHER FOLKS AROUND IT IS GREAT. UM, I, I HOPE IT'S WIDE ENOUGH TO, YOU KNOW, UM, I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU KNOW HOW WIDE IT'S GONNA BE? UM, THIS, THIS ONE THAT'S MARKED BELTLINE TO ARAPAHOE PEDESTRIAN PATH, I THINK IS SIX FEET. AND IT MEANDERS, BUT THERE'S, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT MORE SPACE THAN THAT, BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE SIX FEET. SO TWO PEOPLE RIDING A BIKE COULD PASS EACH OTHER. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . YEAH. SO, UM, I'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS FOR A LONG TIME, SO I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I'VE DONE MY HOMEWORK, CAME AND VISITED YOU GUYS DOWNTOWN WENT TO THE BUCKLEY. UH, THE, YOUR, YOUR DUMBBELLS ARE HEAVIER THAN OUR DUMBBELLS. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, JUST IN EIGHTIES AND MAX, WE GO IN THE GYM. SO YOU GUYS HAVE LIKE 150. UM, SO THE TRAIL IS THAT NEW BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THAT ON THE EARLIER PLANS. UM, IT'S MAYBE ONLY BEEN THERE BUT NOT MARKED. WELL, MAYBE. OKAY. PINCH THE PAST THAT DIDN'T, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT BEFORE. I, I THINK THAT'S REALLY, REALLY A PRETTY, PRETTY NEAT AD BECAUSE IF YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE TRAIL, UH, UH, UP UPON COTTON BELT, YOU CAN GO DOWN TO BELTLINE AND GET ALL TO THOSE, TO THOSE RESTAURANTS AND, AND RETAIL. SO THAT'S, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT THERE, UM, ON THE TRAIL. SO THERE IS NO GATE I'LL BE ABLE TO RIDE MY BIKE THROUGH THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO STOP AND OPEN A GATE. YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THE IDEA IS REALLY THAT WE ARE GONNA TURN THE RUT IRON FENCE AROUND THIS BUILDING HERE, BUT IT'S GOING, WE HAVE TO WORK SOMETHING OUT TO JUST KIND OF PROVIDE A SENSE OF SECURITY FOR THIS IS GOOD, BUT I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT A GATE ON THE TRAIL. AND, BUT IT'LL BE ABLE, IT'LL BE OPEN. SO IT'LL OPEN. THAT'S REALLY THE BIGGEST THING, BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH. SO ON THE TRAIL AND DOG PARKS, THE TRAIL AT THE BACK, THERE'S A TRAIL AT THE BACK OF THE, BY THE DOG PARK AND THAT, I THINK THAT WAS MENTIONED. YEAH, THERE'S AN EXISTING SIDEWALK BACK THERE. OKAY. AND THE IDEA WOULD BE TO KIND OF PROVE RIGHT UP TO IT, I THINK THE EARLIER COMMENT PROBABLY WAS REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE TRAIL CONNECTION. SO THE DOG PARK, IS THAT FOR THE PUBLIC OR IS THAT FOR THE RESIDENTS? IT'S, IT'S PRIVATELY OWNED AND MAINTAINED. WE WOULD, WE WOULD PAY FOR ALL OF IT AND IT'S REALLY FOR OUR RESIDENTS USE TO ALLEVIATE ANY KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, DEMAND THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING ON THE OTHER TOWN'S, YOU KNOW, PARKING, LITIGATED FROM OTHER PEOPLE COMING IN AND ACCESS CONTROLLED. UM, YES, WE, WE TYPICALLY DO ACCESS CONTROL IT JUST FROM A CLEANUP PERSPECTIVE. UM, IF IT'S NOT, THEN PEOPLE JUST, YOU KNOW, USE IT AND DON'T CLEAN IT. SO IT IT'S A PRIVATE PARK. MM-HMM . YES, SIR. AND PART OF THE IDEA ON THE PARKS, JUST KIND OF FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAVE PARKS, UM, IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE FREE ACCESS AND, AND TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR THAT. AND THESE ARE GONNA BE FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE THERE AT THAT AREA, WHICH IS IN YOUR FACILITY. SO THAT KIND OF BALANCES OUT. I UNDERSTAND. AND THAT GOES ALONG WITH MY UNDERSTANDING OF OUR POLICY. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE HOUSING SLIDE THAT YOU HAVE UP THERE? IT DOESN'T HAVE A NUMBER, BUT IT'S EARLIER. KEEP GOING THAT. NOT THAT ONE, THE ONE THAT, UH, SO YOU HAD A BUNCH OF USES UP THERE, LIKE SENIOR HOUSING. OH, HERE YOU GO. YEP. SENIOR HOUSING OFFICE, RETAIL, HOTEL STORAGE, RESTAURANTS, CONDOS AND TOWN HOMES. UH, AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE ONE OPTION OUT THERE, WHICH IS DO NOTHING. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. UM, AND SO IF WE DO PASS THIS, THEN IMMEDIATELY THE, THE CRIME PROBLEM GOES AWAY AS SOON AS THE HOTEL'S CLOSED. THE MOTELS CLOSED. I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY, UH, OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. I'VE GOT SOME OTHER COMMENTS AS WE CLOSE IT UP. DAN. THANK YOU. THANKS JIM. UH, DAVID, CAN YOU GUYS SHARE THE LITTLE LIGHT ON THE NINE PROJECTS? SEVEN TO NINE PROJECTS? DO YOU GUYS HAVE OPEN, YOU TALKED ABOUT NO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. CAN YOU GIVE US SOME INSIGHT? OBVIOUSLY [02:45:01] THE RENTAL VALUES YOU HAD LISTED UP THERE ON ONE OF THE SLIDES, TWO TO $4,000. IS THAT PRETTY STANDARD THROUGHOUT ALL OF YOUR PROPERTIES? AND WHY DO YOU COME TO THAT? OR HOW ARE YOU MANAGING THE NO SHORT TERM RENTALS? YEAH, WE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WITH SELLING THE ROSEWOOD HOTEL PLATFORM, WE CAN'T COMPETE IN THE HOTEL SPACE. SO WHEN WE BUY THE SITE, WE WILL NOT BE OPERATING A MOTEL SIX, WE WOULD BE DEMOLISHING ONE, AND THEN WE, WE CANNOT LEGALLY DO ANY RENTALS, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS LIKE A, LIKE A HOTEL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING THAT COULD BE CONSTRUED TO THINK THAT IT'S LIKE A HOTEL. SO SOMEONE I MOVE IN, I THINK ABOUT, HEY, I'M GONNA GO ON TO AIRBNB AND MAKE MY PLACE ACCESSIBLE. HOW ARE YOU POLICING ME FROM DOING THAT? OH, WE HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT IF WE CATCH YOU. IT'S A, YOU KNOW, UH, NO STRIKES POLICY TO HAVE TO REMOVE 'EM. AND THEN THE, THE OTHER PROPERTIES, YOU, YOU SHOWED US A FEW, UH, IMAGES UP THERE, BUT THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY DEVELOPED AND OPENED FOR A FEW YEARS NOW, CAN YOU, CAN YOU DESCRIBE THAT, WHAT THAT TYPICAL TENANT LOOKS LIKE? YOU SAID THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK FROM HOME AND THERE'S SOME, UH, YEAH, WE, WE DO HAVE SOME, I, WE ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER A, YOU USED THE TERM SMART HOME. BLESS YOU. I THINK YOU USED THE TERM SMART HOME. SO I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE PROMOTING THAT WORK FROM WORK FROM HOME? YEAH, WE HAVE, YEAH, WE HAVE A, YES, WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WORK FROM HOME. WE PUT DESKS IN ABOUT 70 TO 80% OF OUR UNITS ACTUALLY HAVE A DESK SPACE THAT'S ABOUT FIVE FEET WIDE. WE DO BUILDING WIDE WIFI THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. SO WHEN YOU ENTER THE GARAGE, YOU PICK UP A WIFI SIGNAL THAT FEEDS OUT THROUGHOUT ALL THE OUTDOOR AMENITIES INTO THE DOG PARK, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. UM, THIS IS KIND OF INDICATIVE OF YOUR RESIDENT DEMOGRAPHICS, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO EARN AT LEAST THREE TIMES THE MONTHLY RENT PAYMENT. UM, WE HAVE EXTENSIVE CREDIT, CRIMINAL, HI HISTORY BACKGROUNDS, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. WE DON'T WANT A PROBLEM WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN. IT'S HARD TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE OUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE LAWS. UM, SO WE SEE, I THINK IN ASTON YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO EITHER WORK, ONE SPOUSE WORKS IN ASTON AND SOMEONE WORKS SOMEWHERE ELSE. THEY LOVE EVERYTHING THAT ASTON HAS TO OFFER FROM, UM, JUST THE AMENITIES AND ALL THE PARKS SPACES AND KABOOM TOWN AND OCTOBER FEST AND ALL THE THINGS JUST WANNA BE A PART OF THE CENTRAL PART OF DFW. SO WE, WE WILL SEE A LOT OF THAT. I THINK, UM, WE'LL SEE A LOT OF YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE AREA OR WORK FIVE MINUTES DOWN THE ROAD. SO TO RANDY'S POINT ABOUT CRIME WITHIN APARTMENTS, 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF HISTORY AS A LEARNING CURVE IN FAIRNESS. WE, WE, YEAH, WE DON'T EXPERIENCE THAT IN OUR CASE, BUT, SO THE, THE CURRENT PROPERTIES YOU DO HAVE, DO YOU HA CAN YOU BE PUBLIC ABOUT, DO YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH THOSE TENANTS THAT HAVE SURVIVED, THAT HAVE LIVED THERE THE PAST TWO TO FOUR YEARS? ARE YOU SEEING POLICE ISSUES IN YOUR TYPICAL RESIDENCE AT THE, I MEAN, THERE'S, AT THE LEVELS YOU'RE EXPECT EXPECTED LEVELS OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO PAY. ARE YOU SEEING A CORRELATION WITH LESS CRIME OR EQUAL TO CRIME? YEAH, WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CRIME ON OUR, OUR PROPERTIES. UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW, I MEAN, JUST WE DEFINITELY LESS THAN OUR COMPETITORS. THANKS FOR THAT POINT, TIM. THANKS RANDY. THANK YOU. UM, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, ALL OF THE APARTMENTS HAVE THAT IN THEIR LEASE, BUT THEY ARE STILL LEASING SHORT TERM IN THEIR APARTMENTS. SO, UM, AND THIS MAY BE TO LESLIE AS MUCH AS IT IS TO YOU, UH, TO MY POINT EARLIER, THE INTENDED, WE WERE TOLD THAT THE DOG PARK AND THE TRAIL WOULD BE PUBLIC ACCESS. AND I JUST HEARD FROM YOU THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE PUBLIC ACCESS. IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK SHE DE THAT WAS MY POINT TO LESLIE SAYING SHE ABOUT IT. YEAH, I I HEARD LESLIE KIND OF DEFER, YOU WOULD CLARIFY. LESLIE WAS CLEAR THAT THE DOG PARK WAS ONLY FOR THE RESIDENCE. SHE WAS VERY CLEAR IN THAT ANSWER THE TRAIL. SHE SAID SHE BELIEVES IT WAS PUBLIC AND LET THEM ANSWER. OKAY. SHE WAS VERY CLEAR THAT I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT THEN THAT THE DOG PARK WOULD BE PUBLIC ACCESS IS RESIDENTIAL ONLY, ONLY FOR THE RESIDENCE OF THE, AND THAT WAS THE SAME THING LESLIE SAID. OKAY. I THEN I MIS I MISHEARD. I'M SORRY. UM, JUST TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR AS WELL, THAT TRAIL THAT GOES ON THE EAST SIDE OF YOUR PROPERTY, UM, AND DARREN WAS TALKING ABOUT A GATE, AND YOU, LET ME BE PERFECTLY CLEAR. WILL THERE BE A GATE I UNDERSTOOD YOU TO SAY THERE WOULD BE A GATE, BUT IT WOULD BE OPEN TO WHERE YOU COULD OPEN THE GATE. ON THE GATE. THERE MIGHT BE A GATE TO, TO DIFFERENTIATE A PRIVATE PROPERTY FROM, FROM THE, THE PUBLIC STREET WAY. BUT THE INTENT [02:50:01] IS THAT IF YOU DON'T LIVE THERE, YOU CAN STILL WALK THROUGH THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. OKAY. AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A STANDARD, I I KEEP HEARING THIS. WE HAVE THIS STANDARD FOR SIDEWALKS NOW THAT HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN SIZE AND, AND UH, UH, STANDARD. AND IT'S NOT SIX FEET. IT'S BIGGER THAN THAT. WOULD WE REQUIRE, SHOULD THIS PASS FOR THIS SIDEWALK OR TRAIL TO MEET OUR STANDARDS OF, OF 10 FEET, I THINK IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. CAN YOU AN WE'LL DO WHATEVER SIZE SIDEWALK YOU WANT RIGHT THERE, BUT, OKAY. I DON'T, I DON'T, I THINK WE, I THINK WE HAVE EIGHT FEET. OKAY. WHAT IS OUR SIZE THAT WE'RE, WE'LL, WE'LL COMPLY WITH THIS. WE DIDN'T ASK FOR A VARIANCE FIRST. I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, THAT'S ALL I GOT, BUT I WOULD, UH, CERTAINLY MAKE A MOTION TO DENY A FIVE A AT THIS TIME. WELL, YOU CANNOT, THIS IS, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING BY THE WAY. I UNDERSTAND. WELL, THERE, THERE ARE NO MOTIONS AVAILABLE. LET YOU KNOW. ALRIGHT. UH, AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I THINK PROBABLY SHOULD TAKE A GOOD TIME FOR A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL, UH, JUMP INTO PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW FOLKS THAT WANT TO, UH, COMMENT. SO IT IS, UH, NINE O'CLOCK, 9 0 1. SO FIVE MINUTES, PLEASE, UH, BE, UH, PROMPT COMING BACK. OKAY, VERY GOOD. IT IS, UH, 9 0 9 AND WE ARE COMING BACK FROM OUR BREAK GOING INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING. UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM FIVE A, UH, IT'S PUBLIC HEARING'S NOW. IT'S ANNOUNCED IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. AND WE DO HAVE, UH, A HANDFUL OF COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS. SO I'LL CALL THOSE IN THE ORDER THAT THEY WERE GIVEN TO ME. AND AS YOU COME FORWARD, YOU WILL HAVE, UH, UP TO THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AND TO KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE CLOCK ON THE WALL. AND, UH, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. FIRST UP, WE HAVE ZACHARY SCHMUTZER, WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY DAVID COLLINS. AND YOU CAN QUEUE UP BEHIND THE PERSON BEHIND YOU UNLESS YOU'RE JUST RIGHT THERE. HELLO, COUNSEL. UH, MY NAME IS ZACH SCHMUTZER. I LIVE AT 4 9 2 5 MARCUS AVE, UNIT 3 4 0 9, ADDISON, TEXAS 7 5 0 0 1. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO CONSIDER THIS AND GIVING US TIME TO SPEAK. I ALWAYS GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. UM, TODAY I WANTED TO COME IN AND TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. THERE'S A NUMBER OF PERSONAL REASONS THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. UM, PERSONALLY I'D REALLY LIKE THAT TRAIL ACCESS. IT'D GIVE ME EASY ACCESS TO GO WALK DOWN TO THE BARBECUE JOINT, AND THAT WOULD BE REALLY FUN, TO BE ABLE TO DO ON A NICE DAY. BUT BEYOND THOSE PERSONAL REASONS THAT AREN'T AS SERIOUS THERE, UM, I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT A QUESTION THAT CAME UP ON THIS COUNCIL MANY TIMES, WHICH IS, HEY, WHAT ABOUT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT HERE IS ACTUALLY EXCEPTIONAL. THAT'S THE WORD THAT THE HOUSING POLICY ASK US FOR, IS EXCEPTIONAL. NOW, WHAT I THINK MAKES THIS PROPERTY EXTREMELY EXCEPTIONAL IS THE FACT THAT IS A REPLACING A 45-YEAR-OLD MOTEL SIX AND A VACANT DENNY'S. WE'VE TALKED AROUND AND ROUND ABOUT THIS, TRYING TO SUGARCOAT IT. THIS IS A 45-YEAR-OLD, 1970S MOTEL SIX AND A VACANT DENNY'S. AND A LOT THAT HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED IN ADDISON. THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT WILL BE DEVELOPED WITHOUT AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS OR SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT WELL, WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN ADDISON'S HISTORY. SO I'M NOT DOUBTFUL THAT IT WILL APPEAR. THIS IS AN EXTREMELY CRIME RIDDEN AREA. IT'S AN EXTREMELY CRIME RIDDEN PROPERTY THAT COSTS ADDISON DOLLARS ON EMS AND FIRE AND POLICE DUTY. BUT ALSO IT PUTS OUR POLICE AND FIRE AND EMS, UH, PROFESSIONALS AT RISK AND RISK THEIR LIFE AND THEIR SAFETY. AND I GET WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY. WHAT PEOPLE MIGHT BE THINKING IS THAT, HEY, THIS IS ONE PROPERTY. IT'S NOT REALLY GONNA DO ANYTHING. IT'S NOT REALLY GONNA CHANGE. IT. WON'T THEY JUST MOVE DOWN THE STREET OR SOMETHING? BUT WE'RE A TOWN OF FOUR SQUARE MILES, THREE SQUARE MILES WITHOUT THE AIRPORT. THIS PROPERTY DOES MAKE UP A SIZABLE PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL OF ADDISON. AND I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO FIX ALL OF CRIME IN ADDISON. I'M ASKING YOU TO TAKE A STEP TODAY TO ACTUALLY TRY AND IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND I WANT YOU TO ALL TAKE A DEEP BREATH WITH ME. NO MATTER WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HERE. I WANT Y'ALL TO THINK WITHIN YOURSELF REAL QUICK. DOES A 45-YEAR-OLD VA UM, MOTEL SIX AND A VACANT DENNY'S IN AN EMPTY LOT CALL FOR MORE CRIME THAN A LUXURY APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT I BARELY MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN . I, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY SIMPLE, BUT I DO WANT YOU TO ASK YOURSELF, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO, IS THAT THIS DECISION RIGHT HERE IS EXCEPTIONAL BECAUSE OF WHAT IT REPLACES. THAT MOTEL SIX WILL STAND THERE FOREVER, AND THERE WILL CONTINUE TO BE THIS CRIME SPOT IN ADDISON THAT NOT ONLY COST US MONEY, BUT RISK THE SAFETY OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OF OUR POLICE FORCES IN OUR EMS SERVICES. I'M ASKING YOU ALL TODAY TO PLEASE TAKE YOUR OPINIONS OUT OF THIS AND THINK ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR SERVICES. THINK ABOUT WHAT WILL BE GOOD FOR ADDISON LONG [02:55:01] TERM AND THINK ABOUT WHAT CAUSES MORE CRIME. A 45-YEAR-OLD MOTEL SIX AT A VACANT DENNY'S IN AN EMPTY LOT OR LUXURY APARTMENTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, ZACH. NEXT UP WE HAVE DAVID COLLINS, FOLLOWED BY VALERIE COLLINS. GOOD EVENING, DAVE COLLINS, 1 4 6 6 8 WAYSIDE COURT. UM, NOTWITHSTANDING MY PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE REGARDING FURTHER APARTMENT GROWTH IN ADDISON, I'M SOMEWHAT PERPLEXED, UH, WITH THE RATIONALE THAT APPROVING THIS APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT IS A STEP TO SOLVING MOTEL CRIME ISSUES. DO NOT CONFLATE THE TWO. THEY'RE SEPARATE ISSUES. COUNSEL RECENTLY APPROVED ADDITIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF AND PROCESSES TO ENSURE THAT APARTMENT AND MOTEL OPERATORS STRICTLY COMPLY WITH ALL LAWS. ADDITIONALLY, THE CHIEF OF POLICE PRESENTED A PROGRAM TO COUNSEL TO SUBJECT REPEAT PROPERTY OFFENDERS WITH A SERIES OF ESCALATING PENALTY PENALTIES TO ADDRESS CHRONIC CRIME ISSUES AT MOTELS, APARTMENTS AND RESTAURANTS. THESE ARE IMPORTANT TOOLS TO DEAL WITH BAD ACTORS. I'M NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSIONAL, BUT IN 45 YEARS OF MANAGING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WHILE YOU CANNOT CURE BAD BEHAVIOR, YOU CAN MAKE IT GO ELSEWHERE. VOTE TONIGHT ON THE ROSEWOOD PROJECT ON A STANDALONE BASIS. DO NOT VOTE TONIGHT ON IT AS A SOLUTION TO ADDISON'S CRIME PROBLEM AT MOTEL SIX. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DAVID. NEXT UP WE HAVE VALERIE COLLINS, FOLLOWED BY MIKE LANE. I'M THE BETTER HALF VALERIE COLLINS, 1 4 6, 6 8 WAYSIDE COURT. UM, YOU HAVE RECEIVED OVER 600 SIGNATURES FROM YOUR RESIDENTS ASKING YOU TO STOP APPROVING MORE APARTMENTS, BUT HERE WE ARE AGAIN WHEN ANOTHER 400 MORE APARTMENTS IS THE ADDISON HOUSING PLAN TO REACH 95% IN APARTMENTS, I DON'T KNOW, 18,000 TO 20,000 APARTMENTS. WHAT HAPPENED IN THE NEW HOUSING PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED LAST OCTOBER? I THOUGHT THE PLAN WAS TO BRING WORK TOWARDS BALANCE IN OUR HOUSING. I DON'T MIND DENSITY, BUT GIVE ME OWNERSHIP. WE NEED BALANCE IN ADDISON. THERE IS A COST TO DENSITY. LOOK AT HOW HIGH OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE IS WITH DENSITY. YOU NEED MORE POLICE, MORE FIRE, MORE EQUIPMENT, MORE PENSIONS, INFRASTRUCTURE COST. ADDISON NEEDS A BETTER PLAN, AND YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO YOUR RESIDENTS. PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS. NOW, I WOULD LOVE FOR ROSEWOOD TO BRING THEIR OTHER DIVISION HERE AND BRING US A CONDO TOWER WITH OWNERSHIP AND NO MORE APARTMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, VALERIE. NEXT UP WE HAVE MIKE LANE, FOLLOWED BY LILY LANE. UH, 4 5 2 5 BELTLINE ROAD, UH, OAK BARBECUE. UH, I OWN A BUSINESS HERE IN TOWN, OBVIOUSLY SOME OF YOU DYING HERE. AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TONIGHT. UM, YOU PROBABLY DON'T RECOGNIZE HIM 'CAUSE I'M USUALLY IN A HAT AND SWEATY AND SMELL LIKE SMOKE. BUT, UM, LISTEN, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, I'M A HARD WORKER. UH, WE'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AT BAR OAK BARBECUE, BUILDING A, A, UH, BUSINESS THAT BRINGS PEOPLE TO THE CITY, WHICH WE LOVE. I LOVE BEING IN THE CITY. UH, I AM ALMOST A RESIDENT, UM, BECAUSE I'M THERE 20 HOURS A DAY. UM, I'M GOING HOME IN A FEW HOURS. I'M GOING BACK TO WORK, UM, WHILE EVERYONE'S SLEEPING. I'M UP AT THE RESTAURANT DEALING AND LISTENING TO THE ISSUES AND ALL THE, UM, CRAZIES COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK FROM BEHIND ME AND NEXT DOOR TO ME. UM, SO IF THERE'S AN IMPACT THAT HAPPENS TO THIS FACILITY, UH, THAT ROSEWOOD WANTS TO DO OF EXCELLENCE AND UM, HIGH STANDARDS, I'M ALL FOR IT. UM, BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS A STANDARD AND THE STANDARD ISN'T WORKING. UH, IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE 1970. IT'S TIRED. IT NEEDS TO BE REDEVELOPED. OKAY? UM, I PAY EIGHT TIMES MORE ON MY PROPERTY TAXES THAN RESIDENTS DO. DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT? EIGHT TIMES MORE. OKAY. WE'RE TALKING OVER $30,000 FOR PROPERTY TAXES FROM MY ONE BUILDING, OKAY? SO, AND IT IMPACTS US MORE THAN IMPACTS THE RESIDENTS. THEY DON'T LIVE BY IT. THEY'RE DOWN THE STREET. I'M NEXT DOOR TO IT. SO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NEXT DOOR TO IT THAT ARE DEALING WITH IT. WE THREW PEOPLE OUT LAST NIGHT FROM MOTEL SIX. WE THREW PEOPLE OUT A COUPLE DAYS AGO FROM THE PEOPLE BEHIND US, AND WE CALLED THE POLICE. OKAY? WE'RE USING SERVICES AGAIN FOR THESE ISSUES. SO, UH, THE STANDARDS ARE, YOU KNOW, NEED TO BE TAKEN UP SEVERAL NOTCHES. YOU KNOW, ROSEWOOD IS QUALITY EXCELLENCE FIRST CLASS. UM, UM, YOU KNOW, MY JOB AT THE RESTAURANT IS NOT ONLY TO SERVE GOOD [03:00:01] FOOD, IT'S TO KEEP MY EMPLOYEES SAFE. IT'S TO KEEP THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY SAFE. UH, AND IT'S HARD TO DO THAT WHEN WE HAVE R WRAP COMING IN THE DOOR, OKAY? UH, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE PAYING, UH, FOR THESE APARTMENTS ARE NOT PAYING $90 A DAY, OKAY? OR $60 A DAY FOR A HOTEL, OKAY? THEY'RE PAYING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A MONTH FOR, FOR LIVING IN AN APARTMENT WHO LIVES IN AN APARTMENT. OKAY? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS, BUT I LIVE IN AN APARTMENT. HOW DO, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? A GUY WHO OWNS A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF RESTAURANTS THAT LIVES IN AN APARTMENT, OKAY? SO IT'S NOT JUST NORMAL PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN APARTMENT. IT'S PEOPLE THAT ARE PROFESSIONALS, PEOPLE THAT ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, DOING GREAT THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY. OKAY? I LIKE ALL THE AMENITIES IN MY APARTMENT. I LOVE GOING DOWN TO THE GYM. I LOVE SEEING THE NICE POOLS, THE DOG PARKS, IT'S AMENITIES. WHY WOULD I WANNA GO LIVE IN A HOUSE AND I GOTTA MOW THE YARD EVERY WEEKEND, YOU KNOW, SO . BUT, UH, UM, THE CURRENT HOTELS ARE JUST NOT WORKING. UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL FOR THIS. AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. THANK YOU, MIKE. NEXT WE HAVE LILY LANE, FOLLOWED BY GUILLER QUINTANILLA. HEY, HI, HI, BOARD AND MAYOR. UM, MY NAME IS LILY LANE. I'M AN EXTENSION OF THE OAK BARBECUE, UM, CORPORATION. MY ADD THE ADDRESS IS 4 5 25 BELTLINE ROAD. UM, I, MY JOB AT THE RESTAURANT IS TO COME AND BE, I'M TRAINING TO BE HEAD OF OPERATIONS OF OUR RESTAURANT. I GO EVERY DAY. I HAVE AN EXTENSION OF MY DAD AND MY STEPMOM TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR QUALITY IS AMAZING, TO MAKE SURE OUR EMPLOYEES ARE SUPPORTED, OUR MANAGEMENT IS SUPPORTED, AND THAT THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY CAN BE TO BE, UM, AMAZING EMPLOYEES FOR US AND BE ACTIVE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND THAT OUR, UM, CUSTOMERS ARE TAKEN CARE OF. I CANNOT DO THAT IF I CAN'T EVEN WALK TO MY CAR AT NIGHT AND NOT FEEL SAFE, OKAY? SO IT IS MY JOB TO BE THERE FOR THEM, BUT IF I CAN'T BE THERE FOR THEM, BECAUSE I HAVE TO GET ESCORTED TO MY CAR, EVEN IN THE DAYLIGHT AND HAVE TO KICK A RIFF R OUT OF THE RESTAURANT AND BE THAT PERSON, AND I CAN'T, I CAN'T DO MY JOB AND I CAN'T SUPPORT MY EMPLOYEES AND I CAN'T SUPPORT THEIR CUSTOMERS THAT ARE WANNA COME AND DO TRIVIA NIGHT AND BINGO AND HANG OUT WITH THEIR FAMILIES. UM, I AM IN THE, EXCUSE ME, IN JANUARY WILL BE A ACTIVE MEMBER IN ADDISON. I'LL BE MOVING TO AN AMU AM LEE RESIDENCE AND WILL BE AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY. I'M SO EXCITED. IF THIS WAS UP, THEN I WOULD A HUNDRED PERCENT MOVE INTO ROSEWOOD AND I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE ROSEWOOD, UM, COMPANY. UM, TWO WEEKS AGO BEFORE OUR LAST, LAST TIME I WAS HERE, TWO, THREE DAYS BEFORE THAT, I WAS APPROACHED BY A MAN IN OUR RESTAURANT WORKING A NORMAL SHIFT AND WAS SEXUALLY TRAFFICKED. HE, I WALKED HIM DOWN THE LINE. HE WAS BEING RUDE, DISRESPECTFUL, AND WEIRD TO OTHER CUSTOMERS. I SAID, HEY GUYS, LET ME HANDLE IT. I'LL WALK 'EM DOWN AND WE'LL, I'LL EVALUATE THIS AND SEE IF I NEED TO CALL THE POLICE. ONCE AGAIN, THIS HAPPENS CONSTANTLY AT OUR RESTAURANT. UM, HE TOLD ME, I OFFERED HIM A CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIE AND SAID, I ASKED IF YOU WANNA DO A GURU REVIEW FOR A CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIE. HE SAID, IF YOU WANNA DO GO, IF YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU, UM, SOMETHING YOU, I'LL JUST TAKE YOU TO THE BACK AND SHOW YOU WHAT PROSTITUTION IS. 'CAUSE THAT'S JUST GIVING YOU AWAY. AND LIKE GAVE ME A WHOLE TALK ABOUT PROSTITUTION AND WAS GESTURING TO GO TO THE BACK WITH ME. AND THIS HAPPENED TO MULTIPLE OF MY EMPLOYEES DURING THAT SHIFT. ME INCLUDED. THE BARTENDERS AND MULTIPLE PEOPLE HAVE PROBLEMS LIKE THIS ON THE DAILY IN OUR RESTAURANTS AND THE C AND THE COMMUNITIES' RESTAURANTS AROUND THOSE PROPERTIES. THE LUPE TORTILLAS NEXT TO US HAS ALSO HAD PROBLEMS. WE HAVE IS WE ISSUES. AND I'M HONESTLY TIRED OF NOT GOING BE ABLE TO GO TO WORK AND NOT FEEL SAFE IN OUR, MY COMMUNITY. UM, SO PEOPLE ARE BEING CONSTANTLY, MEN, WOMEN OF ALL AGES ARE CONSTANTLY THREATENED SEXUALLY, UM, HARASSED VERBALLY, AND HAVE HAD DEMANDING THREATS TO, TO THEM THAT OUR CUSTOMERS ARE, EXCUSE ME, EMPLOYEES IN MANAGEMENT AT ALL OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AROUND THIS MOTEL AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. OKAY? I JUST SEE IT ON A DAILY BASIS AND I'M 19 YEARS OLD. NO, YOU, IF YOU GUYS WANT, I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU GUYS WANT YOUR 19-YEAR-OLD, SUCCESSFUL, YOUNG, PROFESSIONAL DAUGHTER OR SON TO GO TO WORK AND HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IF THEY'RE GONNA WALK TO THEIR CAR SAFELY AT NIGHT. 'CAUSE THAT'S MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW. UM, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS' TIME AND I KNOW THAT YOUR GUYS' GOALS IS TO BE AMAZING TO THIS COMMUNITY, AND THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU, LILY. NEXT UP WE HAVE GUILLER QUINTANILLA, FOLLOWED BY RON WHITEHEAD, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS GUILLERMO QUINTANA, 41 15 RUSH CIRCLE. ADDISON HAS GONE THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT PERIODS OF GROWTH. WE ONCE GREW THROUGH NEW OFFICE BUILDINGS, RESTAURANTS, AND HOTELS. LATER. WE GREW THROUGH NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WHEN LAND ECONOMICS MADE THAT POSSIBLE. TODAY, ADDISON IS LARGELY BUILT OUT. OUR NEXT OPPORTUNITIES INCREASINGLY [03:05:01] COME THROUGH REDEVELOPMENT. AND REDEVELOPMENT IS DIFFERENT. IT BEGINS WITH AN EXISTING USE, AN EXISTING PROPERTY VALUE AND ECONOMICS THAT HAVE TO SUPPORT WHATEVER REPLACES IT. THAT IS THE SITUATION BEFORE YOU. TONIGHT, WE CAN ALL IMAGINE SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR THIS PROPERTY, BUT IMAGINING ANOTHER PROJECT DOES NOT MAKE IT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE AND IT DOES NOT MAKE ANOTHER DEVELOPER APPEAR, THE OPPORTUNITY IS REAL. IT WOULD REPLACE AN AGING LIMITED SERVICE HOTEL AT BELTLINE AND MIDWAY WITH SUBSTANTIAL NEW PRIVATE INVESTMENT. I HOPE WE DO NOT ALLOW A SLOGAN LIKE, NO MORE APARTMENTS TO SUBSTITUTE FOR CRITICAL ANALYSIS. A SLOGAN IS EASY, GOVERNING IS HARD. SO IF THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS PROPERTY, ASK YOURSELF, WHAT REDEVELOPMENT DO WE REALISTICALLY EXPECT TO OCCUR HERE INSTEAD? AND WHAT EVIDENCE DO WE HAVE THAT IT IS ACTUALLY COMING, REJECTING A REAL OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE HOPE SOMETHING BETTER MAY EVENTUALLY APPEAR IS NOT REDEVELOPMENT, IT'S SPECULATION. I URGE YOU TO VOTE YES FOR THIS ITEM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU, GUILLERMO. NEXT UP WE HAVE RON WHITEHEAD, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME'S RON WHITEHEAD. I LIVE AT 39 19 BOB AND LANE IN ADDISON, 7 5 0 0 1. THE TOWN HAS A ZONING REQUEST FROM A QUALITY DEVELOPER TO BUILD A $100 MILLION FIRST CLASS APARTMENT COMMUNITY, AND A LOCATION THAT SORELY NEEDS REDEVELOPING. THIS PROJECT WILL SERVE AS, AS A CATALYST FOR CHANGE TO THIS ENTIRE SIDE OF BELTLINE ROAD. I'M IN FAVOR OF GRANTING THE SONY REQUEST, TWO ROWS, WOOD, AND I WOULD IMPLORE YOU TO REVISIT YOUR 2017 HOUSING POLICY. IT'S ALMOST 10 YEARS OLD, AND DEFINE WHAT AREAS OF TOWN ARE APPROPRIATE FOR VARIOUS RESIDENTIAL USES AND STOP TRYING TO FORCE FEE. SIMPLE HOUSING ON EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT COMES BEFORE YOU, DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. IF YOU REFUSE TO GRANT APARTMENT ZONING TO EVERYONE, YOU WILL NOT GET THE QUALITY OF REDEVELOPMENT YOU DESIRE. DENSITY MAKES AMENITIES LIKE WRAP, PARKING, LANDSCAPING AND OPEN SPACE, POSSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE. AND AS IT REGARDS THE APARTMENT ISSUE IN GENERAL, IN MY OPINION, UH, I THINK IT'S A MANUFACTURED ISSUE OF PEOPLE BEING OPPOSED TO APARTMENTS. IT'S EASY TO APPEAL TO PEOPLE AND SAY, ARE YOU OPPOSED TO APARTMENTS OR NOT? AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FACE THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE APARTMENTS. YOU CAN THROW ALL KINDS OF STUFF ON 'EM. AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. I THINK IT IS A MANUFACTURED POLITICAL ISSUE IN THIS TOWN AND HAS BEEN FOR A WHILE. THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT HOUSING POLICY. THE SECOND THING IS ON CRIME. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN SOMETIME, AND LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE, UH, MORAL LAPSES OF PEOPLE LIVING IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTY IN ADDISON. I CAN GIVE YOU A LENGTHY LIST LIKE THE PROSTITUTION THAT WE HAD RUNNING ON DOME DRIVE AND THE LADY, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF SHE WAS MURDERED OR IF SHE JUST DIED, BUT I DO KNOW THAT SHE WAS DEAD. IT TOOK US A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO FIND HER. THEN THERE WAS THE CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, UH, PERSON THAT WAS LIVING ON THE GRAND AND, UH, THE POLICE. WE DID, UH, CATCH THAT PERSON. AND THEN WE HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROJECT THAT YOU JUST APPROVED ON AIRPORT PARKWAY FOR THE CONDOMINIUMS ACROSS THE STREET IN THAT, IN THAT FLEX SPACE, THERE WAS A PROSTITUTION AND, UM, HUMAN TRAFFICKING OPERATION THAT WAS RUNNING OUT OF THAT OPERATION FOR SOME TIME. THAT WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO END POINT OF IT IS CRIME IS NOT EXCLUSIVE TO A HOUSING TYPE. AND YES, YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN APARTMENTS, BUT YOU HAVE MORE GOOD PEOPLE TOO. SO I WOULD, UH, I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THOSE THINGS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, RON. UH, THAT'S THE LAST COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARD I HAD FOR ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE I GO TO THE OTHERS IS, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? AND PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES. COUNCIL MAYOR. MY NAME'S JOE PEDROZA. I'M AT 15 7 87 SPECTRUM. MOST OF YOU GUYS KNOW WHO I AM. UH, YOU KNOW, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA 183 TOWN HOMES. [03:10:01] I'M NOW, I DID HAVE A SCRIPTED SPEECH TO READ TO YOU ALL, BUT I WANT TO, I WANT TO ADD PERSPECTIVE ON CRIME. SO, BEING PRESIDENT, I, I HAVE SOME ISSUES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN OUR COMMUNITY. I'VE SEEN A MURDER, I'VE HAD A MURDER. WE'VE HAD A MURDER IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE'VE HAD A SUICIDE AND WE'VE HAD SEX TRAFFICKING. SO TO THINK THAT CRIME ONLY HAPPENS IN APARTMENTS, ASININE, IT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE. I USED TO FLIP PROPERTIES. I FLIPPED A HOARDER HOUSE, A SUICIDE HOUSE, AND UNFORTUNATELY, A DALLAS, A DALLAS SUICIDE HOUSE, DALLAS POLICE OFFICER, SUICIDE HOUSE. SO THE THING CRIME ONLY HAPPENS IN APARTMENTS, JUST TO ME, IS AS AND I NUMBER TWO, SECOND PART OF THIS, A APART, UH, CRIME IN APARTMENTS. AND LUCKILY I LOOKED THIS UP WHILE WE'RE ALL TALKING HERE, ALL THE STATISTICS ARE AVAILABLE TO ME. THE HIGHEST CRIME IS PROPERTY THEFT HERE IN MADISON, RIGHT? IT IS PROPERTY THING, PROPERTY THEFT, THEFT, CAR THEFT, STEALING OF TIRES AND TIC CONVERTERS. NEXT ONE IS NOISE AND DOGS DOG NOISE BECAUSE THE WALLS ARE SO THIN. THAT'S YOUR CRIME. THAT'S YOUR APARTMENT CRIME. YOU'RE GONNA GET THAT. I, I LIVE IN THE, I LIVE IN THE TOWN HOMES OF THE CONDOS TOWN HOMES IN OUR COMMUNITY. I DON'T APARTMENT CARS OUTSIDE JUST BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE IN URBAN AREA. I KNOW CAR THEFT HAPPENS. IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS HERE WHEN YOU LIVE IN AN URBAN AREA. SO, AND YOU THINK ABOUT CRIME IN A MOTEL AND CRIME IN THE APARTMENTS. I'LL TAKE, I'LL TAKE THE, UH, APARTMENT CRIME EVERY DAY. YOU CAN LIVE WITH A MOTEL ONE. UM, SO I'M GONNA GO, GO WITH A SECOND HALF OF MY SPEECH HERE, WHICH IS SCRIPTED. UM, SO I DID WATCH EIGHT HOURS OF YOUR BUDGET. IT'S NOT VERY HIGH. I'M A TOMATO METER OF WATCHING VIDEOS. TELL YOU WHAT I GO SOMETHING ELSE. BUT I DID GO THROUGH IT AND I DID UNDERSTAND I DID LEARN SOMETHING. SO, UH, THE DECISION THAT YOU GUYS ARE MAKING IMPACTS THE ADDISON'S BALANCE BALANCE SHEET. DURING THE RECENT BUDGET WORK SESSIONS, A COUNCIL MEMBER ACKNOWLEDGED THAT OUR COMMERCIAL TAX BASE KEEPS ME UP, UP AT NIGHT. UM, UM, CFO STEVEN GLICKMAN HAS DONE OUTSTANDING WORK SQUEEZING EFFICIENCIES, FINDING OVER $500,000 IN RECURRING SAVINGS AND NEARLY MILLION DOLLARS IN ONE TIME. CUTS. BUT YOU CAN ONLY SQUEEZE A TURNIP SO FAR. BELT TIGHTENING ALONE CANNOT ABSORB CLIMBING OPERATIONAL COSTS OR FUNDING CRITICAL INVESTMENTS LIKE OUR NEW FIRE STATION, ROSEWOOD PD REPLACES AN UNDERPERFORMING LOW YIELDING MOTEL PARCEL WITH HIGH DENSITY, HIGH VALUE ASSET THAT GENERATES RECURRING TAX TAX REVENUE TO HELP FUND TOWN SERVICES. WE ALL VALUE FEE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP WHERE THE ECONOMICS WORK, BUT IT DOESN'T. TONIGHT WE MUST KEEP OUR EYE ON THE BALL, WHICH IS FIN BEING FINANCIALLY FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. WE'RE A SMALL TOWN. THERE IS NO MORE MONEY. WE CANNOT, A HOME IS NOT GONNA PAY THE TAXES TO BUILD OUR OUR FUTURE. IT'S JUST NOT GONNA HAPPEN. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE MONEY FROM FEE. SIMPLE HOMES AND JOE PLACE IN MOTEL SIX WITH ROSEWOOD PD ELEVATES BELTLINE CORRIDOR HONORS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STRENGTHENS A ADDISON'S FINANCIAL FOUNDATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JOE. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? PLEASE COME FORWARD. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. DENISE FANSLER, 37 25 CHATHAM COURT DRIVE. UH, AT ONE POINT I WANT Y'ALL TO THINK ABOUT APARTMENTS ARE JUST ANOTHER COMMERCIAL USE. YOU HAVE TENANTS THAT PAY RENT. THAT RENT CREATES VALUE TO THE REAL ESTATE. THAT REAL ESTATE BECOMES TAXES. THE DIFFERENCES THEY SPEND THE NIGHT THERE, THE OFFICE USERS DURING THE DAY GO TO WORK. THERE, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. SO TRY TO ELIMINATE THE HOME OWNERSHIP VERSUS A APARTMENT COMPLEX. IT IS JUST COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE. OKAY? I, I GET THE TOWN HAS DONE SOME CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT'S GONNA HELP MAYBE IMPROVE THE PROBLEMS AT THAT HOTEL. ULTIMATELY, IT'S GONNA PROBABLY FORCE THAT HOTEL OWNER TO HAVE TO HAVE MORE EXPENSIVE RENT OR WHATEVER, AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO RENT THAT HOTEL AND IT'S GONNA CAUSE FINANCIAL BURDENS ON THAT HOTEL OWNER. AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE STUCK WITH AN EMPTY BUILDING. ARE YOU ANY BETTER OFF WITH AN EMPTY BUILDING? YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANNA WANT CONDO HIGH RISE IN THIS TOWN. THE MATH DOES NOT SIMPLY WORK. I MEAN, IF IT WORKED, THERE'D BE DEVELOPERS ALL UP AND DOWN BELTLINE ROAD BUILDING HIGH RISE DEVELOPMENT. BUT IT, IT, THE MATH IS NOT THERE. I WANNA REMIND A CITY, THE COUNCIL PERSON TO THE, I WILL NOT NAME, BUT WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT THEY WANTED WAS TO GET RID OF PROBLEM MOTEL HOTELS IN THIS TOWN. HERE'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU, DENISE. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? OKAY, VERY GOOD. UH, BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT WANTED TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. THERE WERE ALSO FOLKS THAT CAME TONIGHT AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO SHARE THEIR POSITION ON AN ITEM, BUT THEY CHOSE NOT TO SPEAK. AND SO I'LL SHARE THOSE WITH YOU ALL. UM, KENNEDY BAUER, UM, IS IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM. EILEEN RESNICK IS IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM. [03:15:02] TOM BROWN IS IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM. JOSEPH PEDROZA IS IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM, WHAT WE HEARD FROM JOE A MOMENT AGO. AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER OPTION THAT FOLKS HAVE IS TO GO ONTO OUR WEBSITE AND FILL OUT THE ONLINE FORM TO, UH, SEND A MESSAGE TO COUNCIL. AND ALL THOSE WERE EMAILED TO COUNCIL EARLIER TODAY. UH, AND SO I'LL READ, READ THOSE, UH, THE FOLKS THAT WERE, THAT EXPRESSED IN FAVOR OF THE ITEM OR PAUL WALDEN, JIM DUFFY, DEREK UNDERWOOD, DR. J IIG, PATRICIA ATKINS, CHUCK GREEN, THOMAS BROWN, TOM BROWN. HOWEVER I ALREADY MENTIONED TOM. DAVID THOMAS, ROBERT ANI, NICKI AND GUILLERMO NIA. WE HEARD FROM HIM. UH, THERE WAS ONE OTHER THAT SUBMITTED A FORM, UH, MARY REED, BUT SHE REALLY DIDN'T, UH, GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. SHE JUST MADE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THAT. SO, SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAD FROM ONLINE, UM, THAT WE WERE, THAT WE WERE SENT TODAY. SO WITH THAT, UM, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY FIVE A. ALRIGHT, I'M NOT HEARING A SECOND. SO THAT MOTION DIES. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FIVE A, UH, WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. DO I NEED TO, UH, CALL THOSE OUT AS SUBMITTED? AS SUBMITTED? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU, CHRIS, FOR THE SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE TO AMEND THAT MOTION. MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO AMEND THAT MOTION TO, UH, DENY ANY RELIEF TO, UH, PUBLIC STREET LANDSCAPE BUFFER RELIEF, UH, ANY TREE MITIGATION RELIEF, NO WAIVERS FOR THE, ANY FEES OR ANY CREDIT FOR FEE CREDIT. THAT THINGS THAT THEY DO. NO EXCEPTIONS. YEAH, I'M NOT HEARING A SECOND TO THE AMENDMENT. SO THE AMENDMENT DIES. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DISCUSSION? SURE, GO AHEAD, DARREN. SO, LIKE I SAID, I'VE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND, UM, THERE, THIS IS EXCEPTIONAL. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS, UH, THAT COULD BE DONE TO THIS PROPERTY. I LISTED LIKE NINE USES. AND, UH, THEY'RE NOT LINING UP TO DO THAT, NOR DO I WANT TO SELL STORAGE OR DO I NOT WANT THE EXISTING MOTEL THAT'S THERE. UH, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET. YOU DENY THIS MOTION, YOU DENY THIS ZONING, YOU GET THE SAME THING YOU GET AND YOU GET IT FOR EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. SO IT'S BONUS TIMES OF LIKE 30 AND 40 YEARS. UM, I THINK IT'S A CATALYST IN THE AREA. UH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND I ASKED THE QUESTION IN THE PUBLIC MEETING THEY HAD WAS WHY WOULD THEY COME HERE? UH, IF THEY DON'T THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO, UM, REDEVELOP. AND I THINK IT'S TRULY GONNA BE A CATALYST AND IT'S GONNA REALLY PUT, UH, UM, GASOLINE ON THE DEVELOPMENT IN A, IN A GOOD WAY AND A BAD WAY. SO, UM, IF, UH, IT'S A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS INVESTMENT AND AS SOON AS WE APPROVE THIS AND THEY CLOSE THE HOTEL, THEN UH, WE LOSE FIVE CALLS A WEEK FOR THE POLICE GOING OUT THERE. UH, AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE ONES THAT OAK GETS ALSO, AND LAS LUPE GETS AS WELL. SO MAYBE YOU GET A BONUS 10. SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A JUST, I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BLACK AND WHITE THERE. IT'S PRETTY EASY. UM, UH, AND, AND ON THE, I I DO THINK ABOUT DEMAND ON THE REST OF OUR FACILITIES, LIKE ADDISON REC CENTER. I USE THAT, UH, AT LEAST TWO OR THREE TIMES A WEEK. AND THE POOL, UH, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN POOL. IT'S OUR POOL'S NICE. THEIR POOL IS VERY NICE. ALSO, IT'S PROBABLY NICER. THEIR, UH, REC THEIR, UM, UH, WORKOUT ROOMS VERY NICE. UH, AND ON OUR TOUR, IT'S, IT'S, UH, THEY WOULD DEFINITELY GO THERE. THEY, I, I'M NOT, DON'T TELL ANYBODY, BUT IN SOME WAYS ARE NICER THAN OURS ALSO. UM, UH, I CAN'T, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, WE, WE DO HAVE TO MANAGE THE HOTELS AND APARTMENTS WE HAVE. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. WE HAVE SOME VERY POOR HOTELS AND APARTMENTS THAT NEED, UH, ADDRESSING AND STRS AND APARTMENTS. WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. AND STRS IN GENERAL. UM, WE ARE, UM, BRINGING UP THE, UM, THE ENFORCEMENT, THE, THE INSPECTION OF THOSE PROPERTIES AND THE POLICING OF THOSE PROPERTIES. YOU GOTTA MANAGE WHAT YOU GOT. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE APARTMENTS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE HIGHER DENSITY. YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF 'EM. BUT SAME WITH THE HOMEOWNERS. I MEAN, IF YOU GET A HOMEOWNER LIVING NEXT TO YOU THAT YOU DON'T LIKE, GUESS WHAT YOU GOT 'EM FOR. THE WHOLE OWNERSHIP. IF YOU'RE IN APARTMENTS, THEY'LL, THEY MAY MOVE OUT SOONER. SO, I, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. I THINK THIS IS A FANTASTIC FACILITY. UM, I THINK THE TRAFFIC AND THE CRIME, UH, IS MANAGED AND ADDRESSED, AND WE HAVE TO BE DILIGENT [03:20:01] ABOUT DOING THAT AND CAN'T JUST LET IT GO AS THIS BECOMES 30 AND 40 YEARS OLD, LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER APARTMENTS WE HAVE. UM, AND YOU HAVE TO GO BY THE BAR OF THAT 2017 HOUSING POLICY SLIDE. IS IT EXCEPTIONAL ON ITS OWN? UM, IT'S VERY, VERY NICE. AND IT COULD OR COULD NOT BE EXCEPTIONAL. THERE'S ARGUMENTS BOTH SIDES, BUT ALL THE THINGS THAT IT DOES WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT AND THE CATALYST AND THE INVESTMENTS, UH, FROM THAT, UH, DEVELOPER, UH, THAT, THAT DOES PUSH IT OVER THE EDGE TO A STRONG, UH, EXCEPTIONAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT. SO, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, DARREN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, I'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT FOR YOU. SO SOME PERSPECTIVE, UM, TO, TO TOUCH UPON. RANDY HAD MENTIONED IF THIS WERE A APARTMENT COMPLEX NEEDING REDEVELOPMENT, IT WOULD MAKE TOTAL SENSE TO TEAR DOWN AND, AND SUPPORT THIS ROSEWOOD PROJECT. I KINDA LOOK AT SOME OF THESE APARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE CERTAINLY IN ADDISON THAT WILL GET THERE, THAT I'M SURE THERE WILL COME A DAY AND A TIME WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT. I LOOK AT THESE HOTELS, UM, THAT ARE DISGUISED. SOME OF THEM ARE DISGUISED AS APARTMENTS. I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTING THAT AS THEIR RESIDENCE. THERE ARE STUDENTS GOING TO ATTENDING SCHOOLS. UM, THEY'RE ACTING AS THOUGH IT'S AN APARTMENT, BUT PAYING THE 60 OR $90 RATE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PAYING A MONTHLY RATE. BUT WHEN I THINK THE BIGGER PICTURE TO MIKE LANE'S POINT, AND I KNOW THERE WERE OTHERS THAT CAME TO THE TOWN HALL THAT CAME TO THE P AND C MEETING, AND THEN I WATCHED THAT THE WORD TAXPAYER RESONATES. 'CAUSE THAT, THAT CONVERSATION COMES UP IN A LOT OF EMAILS. IT COMES UP IN A LOT OF TEXTS, A LOT OF PHONE CALLS ABOUT THIS RATIO OF, WELL, WE'RE PAYING TAXES, SO YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO THE TAXPAYERS. AND THAT RESONATED HARD FOR ME ON THIS SUBJECT. UM, THE TAX BURDEN DOES COME FROM THE COMMERCIAL CENTERS. SO THE NINE, THE 92 TO 8%, UH, HOMEOWNERS PAY EIGHT, THE 8%, THE MIKE LANE'S POINT OF PAYING 10 TIMES OR EIGHT TIMES THE TAX RATE EACH YEAR. AND THE CONCERNS THAT HE AND HIS DAUGHTER HAVE, HAVE GOTTA BE VALIDATED. I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THOSE OWNERS OF THOSE RESTAURANTS OR GENERAL MANAGERS HERE. I CERTAINLY WISH THEY WERE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK. UM, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WEIGHS VERY HEAVY ON MY DECISION THIS EVENING BECAUSE THEY ARE TAXPAYERS AND THEY SHOULD BE HEARD LOUDLY. THANK YOU, DAN. CHRIS? WELL, THIS DECISIONS WITH ME STARTS WITH JUST A HIGHLY RESPECTED, UM, A PROVEN DEVELOPER IN ROSEWOOD. UH, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPLACE, UH, A VACANT DENNY'S VACANT FOR 16 YEARS, UH, A HOTEL THAT'S OUTLIVED ITS USEFUL LIFE. UM, AND, AND ALL OF THIS IS AT ONE OF OUR MOST HIGHLY VISIBLE LOCATIONS WITH A CLASS A A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR MULTI-FAMILY COMMUNITY THAT'S WALKABLE TO OUR OFFICE TOWERS AND RETAIL. IT'S AN INVESTMENT IN OUR TOWN. UM, IT HITS THE TAX BASE WE NEED IT. UH, IT'S A, IT'S AWAY FROM OUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. I DON'T THINK IT'LL INTERFERE IN ANY WAY. UM, AND WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW IS JUST NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE ADDISON STANDARD. AND YOU KNOW, LIKE DARREN, I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A CATALYST SERVING MORE TO COME. THANK YOU, CHRIS. RANDY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? I DO. THANK YOU. UM, THIS IS NOT AN AREA THAT I'M TRYING TO FORCE FEE SIMPLE INTO. I, I, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I THINK THIS IS NOT AN AREA FOR ANY TYPE OF RESIDENCE. THIS IS OUR COMMERCIAL AREA. IT NEEDS TO STAY ZONED COMMERCIAL, UM, TO ONE OF THE SPEAKERS THAT SAID THAT SHE COULD NOT FEEL SAFE AT WORK. THAT IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. THE EMBARRASSMENT THAT I FELT AT THE PUBLIC MEETING. UH, OUR POLICE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. IT IS A SMALL AREA OF TOWN THAT WE NEED TO HAVE CONCENTRATED FOCUSED ENFORCEMENT IN THAT AREA. AND I APOLOGIZED TO THAT PERSON THAT THE YOUNG LADY THAT CAME UP AND SAID, SHE DOES NOT FEEL SAFE AT WORK, NOR DO HER EMPLOYEES. I HOPE THAT IS ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY. AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN PERSONALLY DO, I WOULD BE THERE TO HELP WITH THAT. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, AND I HOPE THAT'S ADDRESSED. I DIRECT THAT DIRECTLY AT OUR POLICE CHIEF TO, TO ENFORCE THAT, UM, TO MY COLLEAGUES. THERE'S NOT A PERSON AT ON THIS DAIS THAT HASN'T LOOKED PEOPLE IN THE EYE WHEN YOU WERE ASKING FOR THEIR VOTE THAT YOU DID NOT SAY, I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR ANOTHER APARTMENT. EVERY PERSON ON THIS DIES HAS SAID THEY WOULD NOT VOTE FOR AN APARTMENT. I REMIND REMIND YOU OF THAT. YEAH, THAT'S NOT TRUE. I'VE NEVER, THAT IS NOT TRUE. DON'T MAKE ME GET WITNESSES UP HERE. I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA LET YOU DO THAT. OKAY, LET'S DO IT NEXT MEETING. VERY GOOD TO THE PUBLIC. KEEP IN MIND THAT ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES AND THIS IS GONNA BE YOUR CONSEQUENCE. ANOTHER APARTMENT [03:25:02] MAR, COME THREATEN ME. COME UP HERE, RANDY. THAT'S ENOUGH. NO, SIR. THAT'S ENOUGH OF HIM. THAT'S ENOUGH OF YOU. MARLON. UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. IT JUST, UM, I REALIZE THIS IS A REZONING, BUT IT, IT SURE FEELS LIKE WE'RE, UH, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER, UM, A DILAPIDATED, UH, OLDER PROPERTY EXTENDED STAY APARTMENT, UH, AND, AND, UM, APPROVE A, UH, CLASS, A PREMIUM, UH, APARTMENT, UH, FROM MAYBE ONE OF THE TOP DEVELOPERS IN TOWN. SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S MY TAKE ON THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARLON. UH, JUST A FEW COMMENTS FROM ME. A LOT OF LOT'S BEEN SAID. I AGREE WITH, UH, DARREN'S COMMENT ABOUT IT. IT IS EXCEPTIONAL. IT'S AN EXCEPTIONAL, UH, PROJECT. UM, TO GO FROM A A, A VALUE OF 6 MILLION TO A HUNDRED MILLION, POSSIBLY MORE ON THAT PROPERTY. THAT, THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. WE CANNOT CUT SPENDING AND, AND, AND THRIVE AS A CITY. WE, WE CAN KEEP CUTTING SPENDING AND I WANT US TO, BUT WE CAN'T. THAT'S NOT GONNA BE OUR WAY OUT. THE COST TO RUN TO TOWN CONTINUES TO GROW UP. WE HAVE TO GROW THE TAX BASE. THIS DOES THAT IN A BIG WAY. UH, THE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE OF IT IS, IS REALLY CLEAR, UM, TO A PERSON UP HERE. AND I BELIEVE THIS IS A HUNDRED PERCENT ACCURATE TO A PERSON UP HERE. EACH ONE HAS STATED THAT NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR THEM IS PUBLIC SAFETY. AND TO SEE WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON THE HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY GOING ON UP HERE. AND TO SAY THAT I'D RATHER JUST KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS STATUS QUO. IT'S A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SOMEBODY GETS REALLY, REALLY HURT OR KILLED AT THAT PROPERTY. GOD FORBID IT'S ONE OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS UP THERE THAT'S DOING THAT. I CAN'T, I COULD NOT LIVE WITH THAT. THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST A START. I'VE GOT SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT THIS, BUT I'M NOT GONNA SPEND THE TIME BECAUSE OF THE LATE HOUR. UH, BUT I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS. NEL, YOU HAVE COMMENT? NO, I JUST WANTED TO MOVE, MOVE THE MOTION. WELL, WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION. WE WERE JUST MAKING COMMENTS. YEAH. SO WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? YES. NO. OKAY. THIS ITEM IS APPROVED. CONGRATULATIONS. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INTEREST IN ADDISON. ALRIGHT, MOVING TO ITEM FIVE B MOORE . THERE IS MORE NOBODY WANTS TO STATE FOR IT. COME ON, MAN. ITEM [b. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on an Ordinance approving and adopting the Annual Budget for the Fiscal Year beginning October 1, 2026 and ending September 30, 2027 and making appropriations for each office, department, agency and project of the Town, providing that expenditures for said Fiscal Year shall be made in accordance with the adopted budget, unless otherwise authorized by an Ordinance adopted by the City Council, and providing for emergency expenditures and expenditures as otherwise allowed by law.] FIVE B, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AND ADOPTING THE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2026, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027. AND MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR EACH OFFICE, DEPARTMENT, AGENCY AND PROJECT OF THE TOWN. PROVIDING THAT EXPENDITURES FOR SAID FISCAL YEAR SHALL BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ADOPTED BUDGET, UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY AN ORDINANCE ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND PROVIDING FOR EMERGENCY EXPENDITURES AND EXPENDITURES AS OTHERWISE ALLOWED BY LAW. STEVEN. GREAT. UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. THIS EVENING WE HAVE OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET. AND IN ADDITION, WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE, UH, BEFORE YOU, UH, TO APPROVE THE BUDGET. AND THIS HAS A LITTLE BIT, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, PROCESS THAN YOUR NORMAL ORDINANCE APPROVAL. SO I'LL GO OVER THOSE STEPS, UH, WHEN I GET TO THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. UH, THIS PRESENTATION BASICALLY HAS THE SAME INFORMATION WE HAD, UH, AT LAST TUESDAY'S PUBLIC HEARING. UH, SO WE HAVE OUR LISTED CHANGES FROM THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, WHICH AFFECTED THE GENERAL FUND, THE HOTEL FUND, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, STORMWATER FUND, AND THEN THE SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND. WE'VE GOT OUR RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION, UH, WHICH, UH, INCLUDED, UH, SEVERAL ITEMS, UH, TOTALED, UH, OVER $502,000 IN RECURRING SAVINGS, UH, THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR BUDGET. AND THEN GOING ON TO OUR GENERAL FUND, THERE ARE THREE DECISION PACKAGES. I WENT OVER THE THESE IN DETAIL AT OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING, BUT, UH, THREE, UH, WHICH ARE PARTIALLY OFFSET BY SOME SAVINGS. WE HAVE AN HVAC TECHNICIAN, UH, WHICH ACTUALLY CREATES A TOTAL, TOTAL NET SAVINGS, A NEW POLICE OFFICER, AN ASSISTANT BUILDING OFFICIAL, WHICH IS PARTIALLY OFFSET BY A REDUCTION IN CONTRACT. UH, SO THREE FTES ADDED IN THE GENERAL FUND, A NET COST OF ABOUT 172, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND THEN THIS IS OUR GENERAL FUND SUMMARY. SO WE'VE GOT, UH, REVENUES FIVE, UH, 54,573,000, UH, TOTAL EXPENDITURES, 54,532,000. SO OUR GENERAL FUND REMAINS IN A GOOD POSITION. AND WE HAVE 39% OF, UH, GENERAL FUND, UH, RESERVES AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. UH, GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES BY TYPE. UH, MOST OF THIS IS GONNA BE PERSONNEL RELATED. IT'S YOUR POLICE, YOUR FIRE, UH, YOUR PARKS EMPLOYEES, YOUR ATHLETIC CLUB. [03:30:01] UH, SO TWO THIRDS OF OUR BUDGET IS PERSONNEL. 17% IS CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, 8% IS MAINTENANCE, 5% IS A CAPITAL REPLACEMENT, 3% SUPPLIES AND 1% CAPITAL OUTLAY. UH, THEN WE, WE SHOWED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, WHICH IS A 10 YEAR VIEW OF OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE. YOU CAN SEE, UH, REVENUE HAS EXCEEDED OUR BUDGET. UH, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS ON AVERAGE BY ABOUT 7%. MOST OF THAT HAS BEEN BECAUSE OF SALES TAX OVER PERFORMANCE. AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO 2027, UH, THAT 2027 YEAR DOES INCLUDE A 1 CENT REDUCTION IN THE PROPERTY TAX RATE IN THE GENERAL FUND. AND THEN WE'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT 3.5% INCREASE IN IN SALES TAX IN THE GENERAL FUND. AND GOING ON TO OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS, UH, DECISION PACKAGES, UH, ON A RECURRING BASIS, THERE ARE THREE IN THE AIRPORT FUND, WHICH ARE, UH, FTES, UH, AND AIRPORT GIS ANALYST, WHICH, UH, REPLACES A CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, UH, WHICH CREATES A SAVINGS OF 35,000 PER YEAR. AN AIRPORT PROJECT MANAGER, WHICH IS PARTIALLY OFFSET BY SOME SAVINGS, UH, AT $98,000 PER YEAR. AND AN AIRPORTS AIRPORT MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN. UH, THEN IN THE STORMWATER FUND, THERE'S A STREET MAINTENANCE WORKER POSITION AT $68,000. UH, THEN SEVERAL ONETIME PROJECTS, UH, IN THE AIRPORT FUND, RUNWAY RUBBER REMOVAL, PAVEMENT, CRACK REPAIR PATIO, T HANGER, EXTERIOR PAINT, AND THEN A SIGNAGE REPLACEMENT ON THE AIRSIDE. A UTILITY FUND HAS, UH, A-C-M-O-M PROGRAM, UH, KELWAY FACILITY ENGINEERING AND DESIGN. AND THEN THE UTILITY AND STORMWATER FUND ARE BOTH SPLITTING THE COST OF, UH, SOME CONTRACTUAL SERVICES ON A ONE-TIME BASIS, UH, FOR GIS SERVICES. UH, SO THE UTILITY FUND, WE WENT OVER THIS, UH, KIND OF IN DEPTH IN THE LAST, UH, LAST FEW TIMES WE'VE MET. BUT, UH, BASICALLY PROPOSAL IS TO CHANGE, UH, THE COMMERCIAL RATE STRUCTURE, UM, FOR THE UTILITY FUND. UH, CREATE THAT RATE STRUCTURE THAT IS BASED ON, UH, METER SIZE. UH, AND THAT REALLY ALLOWS US TO DO A COUPLE OF THINGS, WHICH I'LL GET INTO IN A SUBSEQUENT SLIDE. BUT, UH, ALLOWS US TO REDUCE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR 2027 BY A FULL CENT. UH, SO REALLY THAT, THAT WHAT, WHAT MAKES UP THAT FUNDING STRATEGY FOR THE UTILITY FUND, UH, AND ALLOWS US TO DO THAT 1 CENT PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION. UH, THERE'S TWO PARTS. ONE OF THEM IS A FRANCHISE FEE, UH, WHICH THE UTILITY FUND WOULD PAY TO THE GENERAL FUND. IT'S A 5% FRANCHISE FEE. ALL OF THE OTHER UTILITIES THAT USE THE TOWN'S RIGHT OF WAY, ENCORE ATMOS ENERGY, ALL PAY A 5% FRANCHISE FEE. UH, THIS GENERATES $945,000, UH, WHICH WOULD GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IN TURN REDUCES THE AMOUNT THAT WE NEED TO GENERATE IN PROPERTY TAX. AND THAT $945,000 IS INCLUDED IN THOSE COMMERCIAL RATE CHA COMMERCIAL, UH, RATE STRUCTURE CHANGES, UH, FOR THE 2027 BUDGET. AND THEN WE HAVE UTILITY FUND TRANSFERS TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, UH, WHICH WE, WE ALREADY DO THIS FOR THE STORMWATER FUND, BUT WHEN WE DO A ROAD RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, UH, WE, UM, UH, AND IT HAS UTILITY OR STORMWATER, UH, COMPONENTS TO IT. UH, THIS IS JUST THE UTILITY FUND PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE FOR THOSE, UH, PROJECTS. UH, SO THIS IS FUNDED FROM 2027 UTILITY FUND RESERVES. AND, UH, THE SECOND PHASE OF THIS WOULD BE TO INCLUDE THIS IN THE RATE STRUCTURE, UH, FOR 2028. UH, SO AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, WE WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE, UH, WHAT THAT CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE. SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT RATE TABLE. UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S BASED ON THE BUSINESS TYPE AND, AND NOT THE, THE METER SIZE. UH, SO GOING FROM THAT TO, UH, THIS IS ON THE LEFT WHAT 2027 WOULD LOOK LIKE, OUR COMMERCIAL RATE STRUCTURE IS, IS ONLY BASED ON, UH, THE SIZE OF THE METER. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO ASKED TO PROVIDE WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR 2028. UH, SO ON THE RIDE OR, OR WHAT WE ESTIMATE THOSE RATES WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR 2028. UM, THE, THE THING THAT WE DON'T KNOW FOR 2028 IS WHAT OUR WHOLESALE, UH, COST INCREASES WILL BE. BUT THIS IS WHAT WE, UH, WOULD ESTIMATE AS FAR AS RATE CHANGES FOR 2028. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, HOW THAT KIND OF WORKS YEAR OVER YEAR. AND THEN ALSO ASK TO PROVIDE SOME GRAPHS THAT WE PROVIDED, UH, AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. BUT WITH THOSE 2028, UH, INFORMATION. SO, UH, WE'VE GOT, OUR CURRENT RATES ARE, ARE LIGHT BLUE PROPOSED RATES, UH, ARE, UH, THE, THE RATES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET ARE THE GREEN. AND THEN THE, UH, I GUESS LIGHT PURPLE, UH, ARE WHAT THESE, UH, RATES WOULD LOOK LIKE IN 2028. SO THIS IS A CUSTOMER THAT, THAT HAS A TWO INCH, UH, METER, USES A HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS. UM, THIS IS A THREE INCH METER THAT USES 500,000 GALLONS. AND I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THAT ALL OF THE OTHER COMPARISON CITIES, THESE [03:35:01] ARE THEIR CURRENT RATES. UM, SO THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE WHAT THEY MAY BE RAISING THEIR RATES IN 2027, AND CERTAINLY NOT FOR 2028. UH, I DO KNOW THAT SEVERAL OF THEM ARE RAISING THEIR RATES FOR 2027, BUT THAT INFORMATION IS A LITTLE HARDER TO GET THEM THE PROPERTY TAX INFORMATION. UM, BUT SO, SO WE'LL STILL BE ONE OF THE LOWER, UH, UH, PROVIDERS, UH, OUT OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES. UH, THIS IS A FOUR INCH, UH, CUSTOMER, UH, THAT USES A MILLION GALLONS, UH, A SIX INCH, UH, UTILITY COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER THAT USES A MILLION GALLONS AND THEN AN EIGHT INCH UTILITY CUSTOMER THAT USES 2 MILLION GALLONS. SO THAT'S JUST A COMPARISON OF WHAT THOSE, UH, LOOK LIKE, UH, THIS YEAR, UH, THE CURRENT YEAR, 2027, AND THEN GOING FORWARD. UH, SO THE UTILITY FUND SUMMARY, AND I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE BECAUSE WE DID GET, UH, THESE QUESTIONS. UH, BUT THE FRANCHISE FEE, WHICH I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED, UH, THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S BEING GENERATED BY THE CHANGE IN RATES FOR 2027. UH, THE TRANSFER TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, WHICH I ALSO HAVE HIGHLIGHTED AT THE BOTTOM, THAT IS BEING FUNDED BY, UH, UTILITY FUND RESERVES IN 2027. BUT TO CONTINUE FUNDING THAT, WE WOULD NEED TO RAISE THE RATES IN 2028, UH, OR A FUTURE YEAR. SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT. UH, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE UTILITY FUND SUMMARY, OVERALL, THIS PLAN, WE STILL HAVE, UH, OVER 40%, UH, OF OUR OPERATING EXPENSES IN RESERVE AT THE END OF THE YEAR. WE'VE GOT OUR AIRPORT FUND SUMMARY. UH, OVERALL THE AIRPORT FUND, UH, IS, IS VERY STRONG. ALMOST 94% OF THE AIRPORT FUND OPERATING EXPENSES WILL REMAIN IN RESERVE AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR STORMWATER FUND. SO STORMWATER FUND, WE ARE DOING SOME INTENTIONAL DRAWDOWN OF THAT, UH, WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE, BUT WE DO STILL HAVE ABOUT 220 FOU, 220% OF OUR, UH, OPERATING EXPENSES IN RESERVE AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN GOING ONTO OUR HOTEL FUND, THERE'S ONE RECURRING REQUEST THAT IS FOR AN ANNUAL TREE AND PARK LIGHTING, UH, FOR THE HOLIDAY EVENT, UH, THAT HAS A NET COST OF 220,000. AND THEN THERE ARE FOUR REQUESTS, UH, ON A ONE-TIME BASIS, UH, FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ADDISON THEATER CENTER. UH, THIS IS THE HOTEL FUND SUMMARY. UH, WE ARE, UH, FUNDING THE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE CAPITAL PROJECT OUT OF THIS FUND. SO THERE IS A DRAWDOWN IN FUND BALANCE, BUT STILL 52.5% OF THE, UH, ENDING RE UH, RESERVE, UH, OR ENDING, UM, OPERATING EXPENSES ARE IN RESERVE. AND THEN THIS IS A STAFFING SUMMARY. SO I WENT OVER ALL OF THE POSITIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED. MANY OF THEM INCLUDED COST OFFSETS. SO, UH, THE, UH, FTE COUNT WOULD UH, BE 333.6 FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT EMPLOYEES FOR 2027. AND THEN THERE ARE SEVERAL ONE-TIME PROJECTS, UH, FROM OTHER FUNDS. UH, THIS IS A LIST OF THE SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND. WE'VE GONE OVER THESE, UH, SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT THE, THE BUDGET PROCESS OVERALL, $718,200 FROM THE SELF-FUNDED, UH, SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND. UH, THEN WE HAVE TWO OTHER REQUESTS FROM SPECIAL REVENUES FUND, UH, TEEN TEXAS MEMBERSHIP AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND A DRONE PROGRAM IN THE CHILD SAFETY FUND. AND THEN WE HAVE TWO REQUESTS IN THE STREET, SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND, WHICH TOTAL $225,000, UH, FROM THAT FUND. AND THEN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. AND THIS IS THE TOTAL OF THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, UH, $228 MILLION. UH, THE BIGGEST ADDITION TO THAT FOR THIS YEAR IS THE, UH, VOTER APPROVED, UH, POLICE FACILITY, WHICH MAKES UP $55 MILLION, UH, OF THAT TOTAL. AND THEN OUR BUDGET'S AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND, UH, AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, THIS, UH, ORDINANCE WILL NEED TO BE APPROVED BY ROLL CALL VOTE. OKAY, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU STEVEN. DAN, STEVEN, THANK YOU FOR ADDING THOSE ADDITIONS, UH, PER OUR REQUESTS ON THOSE SLIDES. SURE. REALLY HELPFUL. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, STEVEN? ONE MORE, ONE LAST, I'M SORRY. DAN. UH, RANDY, WHO SETS THE TAX RATE? UH, THE CITY COUNCIL. DOES. CITY COUNCIL? YES. SO THE CITY, HOW MUCH OF THE TAX RATE DOES THE STATE SET? UH, THEY DON'T SET ANY OF IT, BUT THEY DO SET THE RULES THAT GOVERN HOW MUCH WE CAN GO UP UP, HOW MUCH YOU CAN SET IT, HOW MUCH YOU CAN GO DOWN, HOW MUCH YOU CAN GO UP, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO OUR TAX RATE IS 100% SET BY THIS, BY THIS BODY FOR THE MOST PART. WITHIN SOME BOUNDARIES, YES. OKAY. SO THE HIGHEST, OUR HIGH TAX RATE IS SET BY THIS BODY. THANK YOU. MARTIN, DID YOU ADD SOMETHING? YEAH, UH, WHAT STEVEN, HELP ME WITH, WHAT'S THE TOTAL BUDGET AMOUNT? [03:40:01] IT, THE ENTIRE BUDGET, UH, THE, THE, THE OPERATING BUDGET IS 132, I THINK 0.8 MILLION. AND THEN THE CAPITAL BUDGET, UH, IS, UH, 57.7 MILLION FOR 2027. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE APPROVING. IT'S 132 MILLION SOMETHING? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. DARREN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE, UH, 17? THAT'S THE, UH, THE WATER RATES. WE DIDN'T HAVE THE 2018 NUMBERS IN THERE. UH, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE TWO INCH. DO WE, WHAT DO WE HAVE THE MOST OF? TWO AND THREE INCHES? PROBABLY TWO INCHES IS THE, IS THE ONE WE HAVE THE MOST OF TWO, TWO INCHES. LOOKS LIKE IF, DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBER INCREASED? THE PERCENTAGE INCREASED BASED ON THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS? I I JUST CALCULATED 9.7%. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT, THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT. THEN ON THE THREE INCH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LESS, QUITE A BIT LESS LIKE 5.9%. IT IS. AND THE, THE REASON IS IS THAT THIS, THE, THE TWO INCH, I'M LOOKING AT WHAT OUR CUS MOST OF OUR CUSTOMERS USE, WHICH IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS. YEAH. IT'S JUST A MODEL. IT'S A MODEL. AND THEN ON THE THREE INCH, MOST OF OUR CUSTOMERS USE HALF A MILLION GALLONS. IT DILUTES THE INCREASE. SO IT DILUTES THE INCREASE. YES. RIGHT, RIGHT. THE MORE, THE MORE WATER THAT'S USED, THE LESS YOU SEE IN THE INCREASE. THAT'S CORRECT. JUST WANTED TO, TO, UH, POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE JUST ON THAT SLIDE, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WHERE THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THE 16, THAT LOOKS LIKE A HUGE INCREASE. IT DOES. IT'S LIKE 40% AND 50%. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. 'CAUSE INITIALLY I, I WAS STUCK ON THAT AND THEN I GOT TO THE OTHER NUMBERS THAT WE PROVIDED. YEAH. SO I, SO I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. AND THAT DOES FUND A LOT OF OUR, UH, EXTRA REVENUE THAT COVERS UP SOME OF OUR INCREASES, UM, AS WELL. 'CAUSE WE DID HAVE INCREASES. I MEAN, WE'RE INCREASING SALARIES. WE HAVE A HEALTHCARE INCREASE IN OUR BUDGET AND, AND, UH, WE'RE STILL ABLE TO, UH, TO LOWER THE TAX RATE BY A PENNY. AND I KNOW A LOT OF OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE, THEY, THEY ARE NOT DOING THAT. THEY HAVE THESE 5, 10, 15, 20% INCREASE IN HEALTHCARE AND IT COMES OUTTA THE PROFITS OR THEY RAISE PRICES, WHICH IS LIKE RAISING TAXES. OKAY, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNSEL ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES. RON WHITEHEAD, 39 19. AND LANE AND ADDISON SEEMS LIKE IF YOU'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING, SOMEBODY FROM THE PUBLIC SHOULD SAY SOMETHING. SO I HADN'T PLANNED TO, BUT, UH, I DID WANT TO JUST SAY TO YOU THAT, UH, THE RESIDENTS THAT I ENCOUNTER EVERY DAY APPRECIATE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT'S PROVIDED, UH, TO THEM BY THIS CITY. THEY'RE HERE FOR A REASON BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO FUND THAT QUALITY AND, UH, NOT BE, UH, TOO STRESSED ABOUT THE TAX RATE, THE TAX RATE, THE FACT THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE TAXES ARE PAID BY THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AND I DON'T SEE THEM HERE COMPLAINING EITHER. UH, SHOULD TELL YOU THAT I THINK YOU'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, RON. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADJUST TO COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, UH, WE'LL GO CLOSE THE, UM, PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION, BUT YEAH. AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I, IS THERE GONNA BE A MOMENT FOR DISCUSSION AFTER THE ROLL VOTE? NOT AFTER THE VOTE, BUT AFTER. WELL, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF, AFTER WE HAVE THE SECOND. LET'S GET A MOTION AND A SECOND. HOW ABOUT THAT? THERE YOU GO. I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING A ROLL CALL VOTE. WE ARE, BUT WE'LL HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND AND THE ROLL CALL VOTE. THERE YOU GO. AFTER THE DISCUSSION, I A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE, UH, THE TAX RATE AS ITEM FIVE B. UH, ITEM FIVE B, BUDGET. THE BUDGET, SORRY. YEAH, I SECOND THAT. A MOTION A SECOND FROM SCHNELL. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? JUST A LITTLE BIT. THIS, LOOKING OVER THIS BUDGET, WE ARE TAXING, LIKE OUR COMMUNITY IS RICH AND WE ARE GIVING THINGS AWAY THAT INDICATE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS POOR, GIVING AWAY LOCKED BOXES AND SMALL FEES. WE NEED TO GET IN BALANCE. THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO LEARN HOW TO SAY NO TO SOME THINGS. I'D LIKE TO THANK OUR STAFF FOR THE EFFORTS THAT THEY'VE MADE TO REDUCE COSTS. THEY'VE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB IN, IN DOING THAT. SO I THANK THEM FOR THAT. I CAN'T BLAME ANY OF THE STAFF FOR BRINGING PROJECTS, BUT WE'VE GOT TO LEARN TO SAY NO. AND AT SOME POINT, $300,000 FOR AN OUTDOOR BATHROOM, OR $300,000 FOR A STEP FOR A PARK IS ABSORBING IT. WE DON'T NEED, WE NEED TO LOWER OUR TAX RATE FOR OUR PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSION. YEAH, [03:45:01] I'VE GOT A COUPLE COMMENTS. SO, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, THIS BUDGET, UM, IT, IT ALLOWS THE TOWN TO BE SAFE, CLEAN, VIBRANT. UH, IT'S TAKING CARE OF OUR STAFF, UM, THROUGH A COMPETITIVE MERIT INCREASE. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY TO ME, UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO MAKE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND TOWN ASSETS AND INVESTING IN OUR FUTURE. UM, THINGS LIKE ADDING ANOTHER POLICE OFFICER. UM, WE'RE SPENDING $57 MILLION ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, UH, TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS, KELLER SPRINGS ROAD AND RECONSTRUCTION AIRPORT, PARKWAY RECONSTRUCTION, MONTFORD DRIVE, RECONSTRUCTION, ADDISON JUNCTION, INFRASTRUCTURE, A GARAGE, VARIOUS AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS. I THINK THIS BUDGET THIS YEAR CHECKS A LOT OF BOXES. UH, I'M PROUD OF IT. AND WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH REDUCING THE TAX RATE. UM, AND MY, MY, MY COMMENT TO THE TAX RATE REALLY WOULD BE THERE, THERE REALLY IS NOWHERE ELSE TO CUT. UH, WE, WE HEARD TONIGHT, WHAT IS IT? UM, COMP AND BENEFITS, ALMOST 70% OF THIS BUDGET. SO UNLESS YOU WANNA GET RID OF POLICE OFFICERS OR FIREMEN, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. UH, BY CUTTING. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS GROW THE TOP LINE. YOU, YOU, WE NEED TO GROW AVAL, ALARM. ALARM AND YOU APPROVE PROJECTS LIKE WE SAW TONIGHT. THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE THE TOWN BETTER. YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, STEVEN, GREAT, GREAT BUDGET TO, TO SOME OF RANDY'S POINTS WITH CUTS. UM, WE DID, WE DID CUT THE TAX RATE WITH THE, THE, THE WATER. I THINK WE GOT IN THE, THAT'S WHERE WE SORT OF FOUND THE, THE PENNY. UH, I LOVE THIS PRESENTATION ABOUT SHOWING OUR CONSTITUENTS AS MUCH AS OURSELVES, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO GET BACK INTO LINE WHERE WE WERE NOT CHARGING THE RIGHT WATER RATES, AS AN EXAMPLE. UM, I'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR FEES AND OUR FINES AND LOOKING FURTHER INTO THAT, AND THE STAFF IS DOING SO, SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SAY THAT'S OBVIOUSLY GONNA BE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE OVERALL GENERAL FUND OR, UH, SOME OF THESE FUNDS. SO, UM, KIND OF UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME OF THE DECISIONS WE MAKE ARE NOT THE EASIEST, BUT I DO LIKE THE DIRECTION WE'RE HEADED. SO THANKS STEVEN. MARLIN. THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, WE ARE, WE ARE CONSIDERING, UH, INCREASING THE TAXES. UM, UH, BUT, BUT I AM HAPPY THAT, UM, WE'RE ALSO, UH, TALKING ABOUT REDUCING THE TAX RATE. AND, UH, AS, AS I BROUGHT UP, AS WE TALKED, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MANY TIMES, I THINK WE, WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE TAX RATE, ESPECIALLY TO, UH, TO WHAT IS OUR, UH, WHAT I'D CONSIDER OUR CASH COW, OUR COMMERCIAL. UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING 92% OF THE FREIGHT, AND I GET ME AS A RESIDENT, IT'S GREAT TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF A FREE RIDE ON, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR COATTAILS. BUT, UM, WE DO NEED TO BE COGNOS COGNIZANT, COGNIZANT OF THAT AS WE GO FORWARD. AND I'M VERY, UH, VERY APPRECIATIVE OF, UH, THE DIRECTION WE'VE BEEN HEADING IN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WHERE, WHERE WE'RE TAKING INPUT FROM, FROM EVERYBODY ON THE TEAM. AND, AND WE'RE ASKING, HEY, WHAT, WHAT IDEAS DO YOU HAVE TO, UH, INCREASE, UH, REVENUE? WHAT IDEAS DO YOU HAVE TO, TO, UH, THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO CUT EXPENDITURES? SO WE'RE GETTING THAT FROM ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND I'M, I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE TO THAT. SO, UM, UM, I DON'T THINK YOU EVER COME OUT OF A BUDGET COMPLETELY, A HUNDRED PERCENT, UM, HAPPY WITH EVERY SINGLE THING, BUT, UM, JUST AT A HIGH LEVEL, I AM HAPPY WITH THOSE POINTS THAT I JUST SHARED, DARREN. I DO THINK WE DO, WE CALL THE TOWN AND THE, UH, CITY MANAGER TO CONTINUE TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND TO BE SMARTER AND TO GIVE THEM BETTER TOOLS TO BE MORE EFFICIENT TO CROSS TRAIN. UH, WE'RE A SMALL TOWN, SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ECONOMY OF SCALE IN A LOT OF AREAS. UM, BUT, UM, I, I THINK WE DO CONTINUE TO NEED TO, TO GET BETTER, TO KEEP OUR STAFF LEAN ENOUGH TO PAY PEOPLE MORE, TO HAVE, UH, HIGHER EFFICIENCY, UH, AND SMARTER STAFF, UM, AS, AS YOU ARE. SO WE, THAT, THAT'S A CONTINUED TREK THAT WE, WE MOVE ON AND IT'S, UH, I DON'T, I'M PRETTY CHEAP MYSELF, SO I DON'T SAY YES TO EVERYTHING. YOU GOTTA BE SMART ABOUT WHAT YOU SAY YES TO, AND YOU, YOU, YOU CAN'T JUST SAVE YOUR WAY OUT OF, UM, YOUR BILLS. YOU'VE GOT TO, UH, YOU'VE GOTTA EARN YOUR WAY OUT AND YOU GOTTA WORK SMART. SO I'M, I'M PLEASED WITH THIS BUDGET. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB. DID I TAKE LAURA ONE QUICK THING? 26 YEARS AGO WHEN I MOVED TO ADDISON, WE HAD THE LOWEST TAX RATE IN THE STATE. WE HAD THE EXACT SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE HAVE NOW. I DON'T THINK WE'VE ADDED A THING. SO I DON'T THINK THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS EXACTLY EQUIVALENT WITH THE HIGH TAX RATE. IT'S BEING SMART WITH THE [03:50:01] WAY WE SPEND THE MONEY. ONCE AGAIN, I THANK OUR STAFF FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO CUT. IT'S THEIR JOB TO BRING THESE PROJECTS TO US. IT'S OUR JOB TO SPEND THE MONEY WISELY. I'VE GOT ONE MORE, NOT TO BE CAPTAIN OBVIOUS HERE, BUT IN GROWTH MODE, YOU ALWAYS HAVE A LOT OF MONEY. BUT WHEN YOU'RE IN MAINTENANCE MODE, YOU DON'T, AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH BRAND NEW, UM, COMMUNITIES. THEY'RE IN GROWTH MODE, THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE ALL THE MONEY. BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO MAINTENANCE MODE, THINGS COST TO TAKE CARE OF IT. SO I JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT. I DON'T WANNA BE CAPTAIN OBVIOUS, BUT I WILL. OKAY. UM, JUST, YEAH, JUST ONE COMMENT FROM ME. THIS, I, I MEAN, I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE, UH, THE HARD WORK THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT PUT IN. UH, JUST, I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW MANY HOURS, BUT THE REST OF THE STAFF, ALL THE DIRECTORS THAT, UH, BROUGHT EVERYTHING FORWARD, UH, CITY MANAGER, DAVID, UH, GREAT WORK FROM, FROM EVERYBODY. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AND, UH, AND ONE THING THAT I KNOW, UH, TO REITERATE, THE POINT THAT MR. WHITEHEAD MADE OUT OF ALL THE DOORS I'VE KNOCKED ON AND PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO, UH, PEOPLE LOVE LIVING IN ADDISON. THE LEVEL, THE LEVELS, LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THEY RECEIVE HERE, AND I, I PROBABLY COULDN'T COUNT ON ONE HAND, I PROBABLY COULD COUNT ON ONE HAND AND HAVE FINGERS LEFT OVER THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT EVER SAID, I WANT YOU TO LOWER MY TAX RATE, BECAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY SEE THE VALUE THAT THEY'RE GETTING LIVING HERE. SO, UH, I'M VERY, VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. SO, UH, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION. AND VALENCIA, DO YOU, YOU WANT US LEAD US ON THE ROLL CALL? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE BY SAYING YAY OR NAY. MAYOR TON, WE'LL START WITH YOU. YAY. MAYOR PRO TIMUR DE FRANCISCO. YAY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO, TIM. PORT GARDNER. YAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BLANTON. YAY. COUNCIL MEMBER LISIO. YAY. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH A. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLISON. YAY. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VALENCIA. SO ITEM FIVE B IS APPROVED. ITEM FIVE [c. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on an Ordinance to levy taxes for the Town of Addison, Texas, and to fix and adopt the tax rate of $0.598100 for the Town on all taxable property for the Fiscal Year beginning October 1, 2026 and ending September 30, 2027.] C HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE TO LEVY TAXES FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON, TEXAS, AND TO FIX AND ADOPT A TAX RATE OF 59.81 CENTS FOR THE TOWN ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2026, IN ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027. STEVEN. GREAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, AND WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING. WE HAVE THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON OUR TAX RATE. AND THEN AT THE CO CONCLUSION, UH, ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT, THERE'S THE ORDINANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. UH, AND I HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE, FOR THIS APPROVAL AS WELL WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT. BUT, UH, GOING FORWARD, SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE AT THE END OF THE LINE HERE. WE'RE AT THE, UH, LAST STEP OF THE, UH, TAX RATE APPROVAL PROCESS, UH, AT OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. UH, YOU JUST APPROVE THE BUDGET. SO THIS IS, UH, UH, THE SECOND STEP IN THE, UH, FINALIZATION OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. UH, SO OUR TAX RATE, UH, WENT OVER THESE DEFINITIONS A COUPLE OF TIMES THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, UH, BUT COMPOSED OF A MAINTENANCE RATE AND A, AN AN INTEREST IN SINKING RATE, UH, WHICH IS, UH, UH, WHAT WE USE TO PAY OUR DEBT. UH, THERE'S TWO TERMS, NO NEW REVENUE RATE. THIS IS, UH, YOU'LL SEE THIS IN THE BUDGET. UH, THIS IS THE RATE THAT WOULD GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAX FROM THE SAME PROPERTIES AS LAST YEAR. AND THEN THERE'S A VOTER APPROVAL RATE, UH, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM RATE THAT COUNCIL CAN APPROVE, UH, WITHOUT GOING FORWARD TO VOTERS. UH, SO HERE'S A, A VIEW, A 10 YEAR VIEW OF OUR CERTIFIED VALUE HISTORY. UH, COMMERCIAL MAKES UP 71% OF OUR PROPERTY TAX BASE BUSINESS. PERSONAL PROPERTY IS 13%, AND THEN RESIDENTIAL AT 16%. UH, THESE ARE THOSE, UH, UH, CALCULATED TAX RATES THAT I MENTIONED. UH, SO THE PROPOSED RATE IS 59.81 CENTS, UH, JUST SLIGHTLY OVER THAT, NO NEW REVENUE RATE, AND ABOUT 7 CENTS BELOW THAT VOTER APPROVAL RATE. UH, THIS IS WHAT MAKES UP OUR O AND M, UH, TAX RATE. UH, SO THAT 1 CENT REDUCTION IS COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND. AND THEN WE HAVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND, WHICH IS TWO AND A HALF CENTS, AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND, WHICH IS ABOUT 0.62 CENTS. UH, SO OVERALL, THE O THE O AND M PORTION OF THE RATE IS COMING DOWN, UH, ONE FULL CENT. UH, THEN, UH, THIS IS THE, UH, OVERALL RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF PROPERTY TAX THAT, UH, MAKES UP OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE BASE. SO, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX MAKES UP 8% OF THAT OVERALL GENERAL FUND REVENUE, UH, CATEGORY, AND THEN TOTAL TAX RATE IN ADDISON. UH, SO THERE ARE, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL ACTIONS THAT'LL BE TAKEN THROUGHOUT, UH, THE COUNTY. AS FAR AS I KNOW, UH, DALLAS COUNTY WILL HAVE A, UH, VOTER APPROVAL, UH, TAX RATE ELECTION, UH, THIS YEAR UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES. UH, BUT, UH, THAT MAY MEAN A SLIGHT OVERALL INCREASE IN THE OVERALL TAX RATE, UH, THAT IS PAID, BUT IT'S GONNA BE VERY SLIGHT. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S, UH, SOME, UH, DECLINE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS RELATED TO SOME, SOME, SOME STATE FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS. UH, [03:55:01] SO OVERALL, UH, A LITTLE OVER, I THINK ABOUT $2 AND 15 CENTS IS WHAT THE OVERALL TAX RATE, UH, WILL BE, UH, FOR 2027, UH, IMPACT ON OUR AVERAGE HOMEOWNER. SO ON A MONTHLY BASIS, UH, AVERAGE HOMEOWNER IS GONNA SAVE ON PROPERTY TAX, SLIGHT INCREASE ON WATER AND SEWER. SO OVERALL, OUR, UH, AVERAGE HOMEOWNER MAY PAY ABOUT A QUARTER, UH, MORE EACH MONTH, ABOUT $3 A YEAR, AND THEN, UH, WHEN YOU GET TO THE POINT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE, BUT, BUT THIS, UH, ORDINANCE REQUIRES A SPECIFIC MOTION. UH, I'VE GOT THE MOTION, UH, HERE FOR YOU. SO WHOEVER, WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, ONCE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, UH, THAT WILL BE THE MOTION. AND THEN THE ORDINANCE WILL BE APPROVED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE AGAIN. THANK YOU, STEVEN. AND I HAD THE QUESTION, I'M SURE PROBABLY SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT TOO, AS TO WHY THE, UH, MOTION SAYS THAT THE TAX RATE HAS INCREASED. I ASSUME THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE NO NEW REVENUE. WELL, SO I HAVEN'T GOT ON MY SOAPBOX ABOUT THE TRUTH IN TAXATION THIS YEAR, , BUT, UH, I ALWAYS SAY THERE IS NO TRUTH. SO THE STATE CALLS IT TRUTH IN TAXATION. IT'S VERY CONFUSING. I SAY THERE IS NO TRUTH IN TRUTH IN TAXATION, BUT, UH, THIS IS JUST WHAT THE STATE REQUIRES. UH, THE EFFECTIVE RATE IS INCREASING, BUT WE ARE LOWERING THE RATE. SO I, I AGREE. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE LOWERING THE RATE THAT IS SIMPLY REQUIRED BY THE STATE. OKAY. VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STEVE? GOT A QUESTION? SURE. DARREN, ON SLIDE FOUR, IF YOU CAN REMIND ME, UM, ON THE BLUE, RED, AND GREEN BAR, THE GREEN BAR IS RESIDENTIAL? THAT'S CORRECT. IS THAT FEE SIMPLE ONLY? UH, THAT INCLUDES, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED CONDOS AND TOWN HOMES. OKAY. SO WHETHER IT'S RENTED OR WHETHER IT'S, UH, FEE, IT'S OWNERSHIP, SO THAT'S CORRECT. FEE SIMPLE. CORRECT. UM, SO, UH, APARTMENTS ARE IN THE 71% IN THE BLUE BAR. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS, CHRIS? OH, NO. NO. OKAY. ALRIGHT, GOOD. UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE THAT, THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF, UH, 0.5 9 8 1 0 0 PER $100 VALUATION, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A, A 0.53% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE. I'LL SECOND. VERY GOOD FOR MARLON AND, UH, CHRIS FOR THE SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. WE'RE HEARING NONE. DID DAN, DID YOU HAVE A DISCUSSION? OKAY. AND VALENCIA, YOU WANNA LEAD US ON THE ROLL CALL? YES. UH, SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL WILL DO THIS THE SAME WAY. PLEASE SAY YAY OR NAY TO CAST YOUR VOTE WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME. MAYOR TON. YAY. MAYOR PROIN FOR DE FRANCISCO. YAY. DEPUTY AMER PRO. TIM PORT GARDNER. YAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BLANTON. YAY. COUNCIL MEMBER LISIO. YAY. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH NAY. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLISON. YAY. PASSES. SIX ONE. THANK YOU. VALENCIA. THAT ITEM IS APPROVED. FIVE C. THANK YOU, STEVEN, ONCE AGAIN. ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM [a. Present, discuss, and consider action on an Ordinance ratifying the Fiscal Year 2026-27 property tax revenue.] NUMBER SIX, A PRESENT, DISCUSS, AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE RATIFYING THE FISCAL YEAR 20 26, 27, PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. STEVEN, WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THIS, BUT YOU'VE JUST APPROVED A BUDGET. YOU'VE APPROVED A TAX RATE. WHEN YOU APPROVE A BUDGET, UH, THAT GENERATES MORE PROPERTY TAX IN THE PRIOR DOLLAR WISE, MORE PROPERTY TAX IN THE PRIOR YEAR BUDGET. THE STATE REALLY WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE SURE OF WHAT YOU JUST DID, AND THEY WANT YOU TO RATIFY THAT. SO THIS ORDINANCE JUST RATIFIES, UH, THAT BUDGET, THAT THE BUDGET THAT YOU JUST APPROVED INCLUDES AN INCREASE IN THE OVERALL AMOUNT OF DOLLAR WISE PROPERTY TAX THAT WE'RE GENERATING. THIS IS JUST, ARE YOU REALLY SURE? ARE YOU REALLY SURE? GREAT. IS THERE A MOTION ON THAT? IS A PUBLIC HEARING? NOPE. I, I WILL. SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE IT NEED TO BE EXACT. MOVE TO APPROVE J JUST A NORMAL, A NORMAL MOTION. OKAY. A MOTION TO APPROVE. SIX A. THANK YOU DAN. SECOND. AYE. SECOND. SECOND FROM CHANEL. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. THE OPPOSED AYE. SEAL. NAY. ALRIGHT, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED. SIX [b. Present, discuss, and consider action on an Ordinance to amend the Code of Ordinances by amending Chapter 66 (Solid Waste) Article II (Collection and Disposal), Division 2 (Service Charge) Section 66-52 increasing from $15.74 to $16.22 the monthly fee for each residential unit.] B PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BY AMENDING CHAPTER 66, SOLID WASTE ARTICLE TWO, COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL DIVISION TWO, SERVICE CHARGE SECTION 66 DASH FIVE TWO, INCREASING FROM $15 74 CENTS TO $16 22 CENTS. THE MONTHLY FEE FOR EACH RESIDENTIAL UNIT. STEVEN, GREAT MAYOR AND COUNCIL. STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. UH, THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU, UH, BASICALLY MIRRORS WHAT OUR CONTRACT WITH, [04:00:01] UH, CWD STATES. SO ANNUALLY THEY'RE ABLE TO COME FORWARD AND BRING A RATE INCREASE, UH, BASED ON SEVERAL FACTORS. MAINLY, UH, CONSUMER PRICE INDEX. SO OUR PRICE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE OR WHOLESALE THE SERVICE TO OUR CUSTOMERS IS GOING UP TO $16 AND 22 CENTS. THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU JUST ALLOWS US TO CHARGE OUR CUSTOMERS, UH, THE SAME RATE THAT WE'RE CHARGED. SO IT'S SIMPLY A PASS THROUGH TO OUR CUSTOMERS. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ORDINANCE? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STEVEN? WHEN DOES THAT CONTRACT RENEW? UH, IT JUST RENEWED IN NOVEMBER OF 2025. SO IT WILL, IT'S A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT. UH, I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME, SOME, I THINK IT MIGHT BE THREE YEARS WITH TWO RENEWALS. UH, BUT IT'S BASICALLY A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, BASICALLY. FIVE YEARS THEN? YES. SO, AND IT'S A BUILT IN INCREASES OR IS THIS SOMETHING THEY COME TO US OUTSIDE THE CONTRACT TO INCREASE. IT'S BUILT IN THE CONTRACT. OKAY. SO WE KNEW THIS GOING FORWARD, THAT THIS WOULD BE GOING UP THIS YEAR. UH, WE DIDN'T KNOW. THEY DO HAVE TO REQUEST IT, BUT WE DON'T GET THE DATA. WE, I THINK WE GOT THIS JUST ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO. UM, THEY DO HAVE TO REQUEST IT. AND THEY REQUEST IT AND CITE THE INFORMATION FROM THE, THE CPI. THERE'S A GAS, NATURAL GAS SPOT PRICE, AND THEN THEIR GATE FEE AT THE, AT THE, UH, UH, STATION THAT THEY, UH, DELIVER OUR SOLID WASTE TO. SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF THOSE FACTORS, MOSTLY INFLATION. SO IT'S BASICALLY AN INFLATIONARY INCREASE. DOES THIS ADDRESS THE ISSUE WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE WASTE REMOVAL AND DIFFERENT COMPANIES COMING IN OR HAVING A, HAVING A ACROSS THE BOARD? NOW, THIS IS ONLY FOR RESIDENTIAL, SO JUST RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS JUST RESIDENTIAL. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COMMERCIAL. YEAH, WE DON'T, WE DO NOT BILL COMMERCIAL. SO THAT IS ANY, ANY COMMERCIAL COMPANY CAN, I'M MISUNDERSTANDING THAT. THANK YOU ANYONE? YES, FOR THE BACKGROUND, UH, WE DID APPROVE THIS ON THE 14TH MEETING BACK IN 2025 AND THAT WE, AND THIS WAS THE, THE MA MATRIX OF HOW IT WOULD BE INCREASED AS WELL. SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO ADD, UH, ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE, THE FORMULA, THIS STUFF YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT, IT'S IN THE PACKET, SO IF YOU WANNA REFER TO IT LATER. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOT I ENTERTAINER. MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM SIX B. SECOND. THANK YOU DARREN AND MARLON FOR THE SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ITEM FIVE B OR SIX B IS APPROVED. ITEM SIX C, [c. Present, discuss, and consider action on an Ordinance amending Chapter 82 (Utilities), Section 82-76 and Section 82-77 of the Code of Ordinances of the Town by amending sewer rates and water rates for all customer classifications and providing that the changes to the sewer rates made herein shall be applied to monthly customer bills beginning with the November 2026 billing cycle.] PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 82, UTILITIES SECTION EIGHT TWO DASH SEVEN SIX AND SECTION EIGHT TWO DASH SEVEN SEVEN OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE TOWN BY AMENDING STORE RATES AND WATER RATES FOR ALL CUSTOMER CLASSIFICATIONS AND PROVIDING THAT THE CHANGES TO THE SEWER RATES MADE HEREIN SHALL BE APPLIED TO MONTHLY CUSTOMER BILLS, BEGINNING WITH THE NOVEMBER, 2026 BILLING CYCLE. STEVEN? GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, AND WE'VE GONE OVER THIS, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY, PROBABLY MORE THAN WE HAVE IN, IN PAST YEARS. UH, BUT THIS, UH, ORDINANCE, BEFORE YOU INCORPORATES THE RATE CHANGES THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT, UH, THE RATES OR THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU, STEVEN. ANY QUESTIONS? DAN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? OKAY, SIR, ANY QUESTIONS? THIS IS THE SCHEDULED RATE INCREASES THAT WE PRESCRIBED BACK SEVERAL YEARS AGO FOR THE SCHEDULE 4%. AND, AND WE'RE GOING, WE WENT DOWN ACTUALLY HALF A PERCENT ON THIS. IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, THESE ARE THE RATES THAT WE'VE, WE'RE CHANGING THE COMMERCIAL RATE STRUCTURE. SO THIS IS, THIS IS BASICALLY THE RATE STRUCTURE THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU. THIS IS COMMERCIAL RATES. OKAY, GOTCHA. YEAH. AND RESIDENTIAL RATES. SO RESIDENTIAL RATES ARE GOING UP 4%. THAT'S PART OF THE RATE MODEL. EVERYTHING ELSE IS, IS CHANGING A LITTLE BIT BASED ON THE, THE METER SIZE. THAT WAS THE RATE MODEL IN 2022. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL RATES THAT WE JUST, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS BUDGET. CORRECT? I'M GOOD. THANKS CHRIS. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THANK YOU. SECOND, THE MOTION A SECOND FROM DARREN. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. ITEM SIX C IS APPROVED. SO ITEM [d. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving an agreement with APR Group, Inc. for the Celestial Park Entrance Improvements Project in an amount not to exceed $241,081.14 and establishing a total project budget of $268,255.00; authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement; and providing an effective date.] SIX D, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH A PR GROUP INC. FOR THE CELESTIAL PARK ENTRANCE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $241,081 AND 14 CENTS, AND ESTABLISHING A TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET OF $268,255 AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, BILL HAWLEY. I TOLD YOU I WAS BOOKING. I STARTED OFF AND I'LL WRAP UP, START AND FINISH TONIGHT WITH US. UH, SO THE ITEM TONIGHT IS THE OFFICIAL PARK ENTRANCE IMPROVEMENTS. UH, THE 2026 BUDGET INCLUDES FUNDING FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SOUTHEAST ENTRANCE TO THAT PARK, WHICH INCLUDES, UH, KEEPING IN KEEPING THAT ENTRANCE IN, [04:05:01] UM, CONSISTENT WITH THE PARK'S ORIGINAL DESIGN, CORRECTING SOME ISSUES WITH, UH, EROSION THAT WE HAVE, AND REPLACING THE DRINKING FOUNTAIN. THE FIRST PICTURE THAT YOU SEE IS A, AN IMAGE OF ERODED, A DECOMPOSED GRANITE, WHICH IS THE SURFACE MATERIAL ON THAT SLOPE. THE SECOND PICTURE THAT YOU SEE IS, UH, THE WATER FOUNTAIN. IT'S CURRENTLY LOCATED IN THE, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SIDEWALK. AND WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED, IT WAS NOT CONNECTED WITH A DRAIN TO A SEWER. IT WAS JUST KIND OF A, A CISTERN UNDERNEATH IT. AND OVER TIME THAT'S FILLED IN, ROOTS HAVE GROWN IN, SO IT, IT NO LONGER DRAINS LIKE IT NEEDS TO. SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO JUST CUT THAT, PATCH IT, REMOVE IT, AND RELOCATE IT, AND CONNECT IT TO THE SEWER PER CODE. STEPH DID LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO ADDRESS THE, UH, DECOMPOSED GRANITE EROSION ON THAT HILL. UH, IF YOU DO A LITTLE QUICK INTERNET SEARCH, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED DG STABILIZER THAT WORKS REALLY WELL ON A FLAT SURFACE, UH, LIKE YOU SEE IN THE PICTURE, A DRIVEWAY OR A SIDEWALK. IT, IT DOES NOT WORK WELL ON A, ON A STEEP SLOPE. THERE'S THINGS CALLED GEOGRIDS, WHICH WE HAVE PICTURES OF THERE THAT, UH, DO HELP, UH, EROSION AND CONTROL. UM, THE ISSUES THERE IS NOT, IT'S NOT WALKABLE. UH, YOU CAN'T WALK ON THAT. UM, SO YOU SEE THAT MORE IN A, ON A BERM OR A SIDE THAT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A TRAFFIC AREA. SO THE BEST LONG-TERM SOLUTION IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, CREATES TERRACES AND CHANNELS FOR THE WATER TO FLOW AND SOME POCKETS FOR IT TO SLOW DOWN, STOP SINK IN. AND THEN WHERE YOU DO HAVE GRADE CHANGE, THAT THAT'S A HARD SURFACE SO THAT IT DOESN'T CREATE THE EROSION. SO THE IMAGES THAT YOU SEE THERE ARE, UH, WERE CREATED THROUGH, UH, A DESIGN PROCESS WITH A, WITH AN OUTSIDE PROFESSIONAL. AND IT INCLUDES RETAINING WALLS, UM, STAIR STEPS AND TERRACES WITH DECOMPOSED GRANITE. AGAIN, ALLOW THAT TO, TO SINK IN, TO SETTLE, UH, AND TO CHANNEL THE WATER AWAY MAY BE HARD TO SEE ON THAT SLIDE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND PICTURE TOWARDS THE TOP, YOU'LL SEE A RAMP. UH, SO THAT'S A CONCRETE RAMP FOR A DA FOR ANYBODY THAT HAS MOBILITY ISSUES. SOMEBODY PUSHING A STROLLER IN A WHEELCHAIR. WHEN YOU DO THIS, THIS KIND OF WORK AND YOU, UM, CREATE CERTAIN, UH, CIRCUMSTANCES YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW SOME A DA REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S A PART OF THAT. AND THAT IS A BIRD'S EYE PERSPECTIVE VIEW. MAYBE GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT, YOU GOT BELL BROOK ON THE EAST ESRA ON THE SOUTH, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE, THE AREAS OF THE RETAINING WALL, THE RAMPS, THE STAIRS, AND THE TERRACES. WHAT'S THE RED? SO THAT WAS THE PERSPECTIVE. SO THESE IMAGES ARE, IS YOU ARE STANDING IN THAT EXACT SPOT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO JUST TO SHOW YOU WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU ARE, THEY, THEY GO TOGETHER, BUT THEY WOULDN'T ALL FIT ON THE SAME SLIDE AND BE LARGE ENOUGH TO SEE. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT, UH, THAT IS. UH, SO THE BIDDING PROCESS, UH, PART OF THE DESIGN WAS CREATING ALL THE DOCUMENTS ON HOW TO BUILD THIS, AND THAT WAS PUT OUT TO BID IN JANUARY. IT HAD A BASE BID, AND THEN IT HAD, UM, WHICH WAS EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN THAT, THOSE IMAGES. IT HAD AN ALTERNATE, WHICH WAS TO SUBSTITUTE SOME OF THAT STONE WITH A HONED GRANITE, UH, STEPS WITH THE SANDBLASTED, UM, POEMS AND, AND WORDS IN IT LIKE YOU HAVE ON THE EAST ENTRANCE. UM, AND THEN WE HAD AN ALTERNATE THAT HAS SOME ADDITIONAL LIGHTING IN THAT ENTRANCE AREA. SO WHEN, WHEN SOMEBODY BIDS, THEY BID THE BASE AND THEN THE ALTERNATE AND THEN ALTERNATE TO FOUR PROPOSALS WERE RECEIVED. STAFF CONVENED, UH, A TEAM TO EVALUATE THOSE. HERE'S THE RESULTS. UM, AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, WE HAD PRICE EXPERIENCE, SUPPLIERS, CONSTRUCTION TIME, AND THEN A, A TOTAL OVERALL SCORE. AND A PR GROUP HAD THE LOWEST BID FOR THE BASE BID. AND YOU'LL SEE AN ASTERISK NEXT TO THAT BECAUSE, UM, THERE WAS THE DESIGN COST, THERE WAS THE TOTAL PROJECT, THE DESIGN COST, AND EVEN THE LOWEST BID CAME IN SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE TOTAL PROJECT. SO STAFF WORKED WITH THEM TO DO A LITTLE VALUE ENGINEERING THAT GOT THEIR PRICE DOWN TO 2 41 AND, UM, GOT THAT WITHIN, WITHIN BUDGET. BUT THERE WAS NO, UH, FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THE ALTERNATE ONE OR TWO. AND I BELIEVE WE HAD A RESIDENT SPEAK ABOUT SOME, UM, PREFERENCES THERE EARLIER THIS EVENING. I DON'T SEE A 2 68 NUMBER UP THERE. WHAT, WHAT AM I MISSING? SO THE, LET'S, UH, HOP AHEAD. SO THAT SHOWS THIS, IT'S THE TOTAL PROJECT AND YOU HAD DESIGN, AND THEN WHEN THEY LOWERED THAT THROUGH VALUE ENGINEERING, WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, USUALLY WE BUILD IN A 10 OR 15% OWNER'S CONTINGENCY IN CASE WE RUN INTO SOMETHING. BUT THAT PROJECT, WHICH IS SO TIGHT, WE HAVE A MUCH SMALLER [04:10:01] OWNER'S CONTINGENCY. WE HAD PUBLIC INPUT, UH, POP UP IN THE PARK WHERE WE TALKED TO RESIDENTS, UH, AND GOT FEEDBACK. AND THEN ON JULY 30TH, DURING THE MONFORT CELESTIAL PARK COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WAS HELD AT 5,300 BELTLINE, WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 50 RESIDENTS GATHERED AND PROVIDED INPUT. AND IT WAS OVERALL, UH, POSITIVE. I KNOW A NUMBER OF Y'ALL WERE ABLE TO BE THERE THAT NIGHT. SO STAX RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE A PR GROUP IN THE AMOUNT OF 2 4 1 0 81 14 FOR THE REVISED BASE BID. AND THEN THERE'S THE, THE TOTAL PROJECT, WHICH WOULD BE THAT CONSTRUCTION COST TO THE DESIGN COSTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN INCURRED AND THEN LEAVE AN OWNER'S CONTINGENCY. THANK YOU, BILL, AFTER YOU TAKE ANY QUESTIONS MORE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, BILL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM, CAN WE GO TO SLIDE SEVEN? AND I PROBABLY MISSED IT SOMEWHERE, BUT, UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALTERNATE BID ITEM ONE YES, SIR. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT CAME OF THOSE, ARE THOSE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE PRESENTATION? SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT IN THE PRESENTATION. THEY WEREN'T IN THE FUNDING. I DO HAVE A COUPLE EXTRA SLIDES IF YOU WANT TO SEE OR DISCUSS THAT, BUT OUR STAFF STAFF HAD A BUDGET, SO WE JUST PROPOSED WHAT WAS WITHIN THE BUDGET, BUT WE'RE ALSO CAME PREPARED TO, TO TALK ABOUT IF, IF THERE WAS INTEREST TO ADD ANY OF THAT BACK IN. YEAH, WELL, I JUST, YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHATEVER CAME OF THIS, UH, BASE BID, UH, UH, ALTERNATE BID ITEM ONE IS, IS THAT WHAT SHE WAS REFERENCING IN HER PUBLIC COMMENTS EARLIER? YES. OKAY. SO, UM, AGAIN, THAT WAS THE, THE CHANGING OUT A PORTION OF THOSE STONE STEPS TO BE GRANITE. AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE ETCHED IN THAT, UM, SOME POETIC REFERENCES THAT MATCHES THE, THE OTHER SIDE. AND ALSO CHANDLER IS WITH US TONIGHT, IS MUCH MORE FAMILIAR WITH, WITH SOME OF THAT DETAIL. SO HE CAN SPEAK TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT, THAT I'M NOT ABLE TO ANSWER. BUT THERE, THERE'S THE PRICING FOR ADDING THE GRANITE, UH, FOR POLISHING THAT. AND THEN IF, UH, COUNCIL WAS INTERESTED IN SANDBLASTING THAT TEXT IN TO THAT, THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 20,000 161 72. BUT AGAIN, THAT, THAT WAS NOT IN THE, THE BUDGET PASSED. UM, OKAY. AND I, SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS NOT BROUGHT FORWARD. SO THAT'S NOT IN OUR PACKET AND I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO READ THAT, BUT, AND I'M, I'M NOT GONNA READ EVERY, EVERY WORD OF THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT, UM, AS FAR AS THESE, UH, THESE STEPS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, WOULD THEY MATCH, UH, EXACTLY THE OTHER STEPS WITH THE, THE LOOK AND THE TYPE OF GRANITE? AND SO THIS IMAGE, AND I'LL LET, UH, CHANDLER, IF YOU WANNA POP UP TOO, SO WE, WE HAVE THE, THE BASE BID ON THE, THE FIRST IMAGE, AND THEN WE HAVE AN IMAGE OF THE GRANITE STEPS THAT EXIST. SO PLEASE MAKE SURE I, I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK, BUT, UH, IF YOU'LL SPEAK TO WHAT'S PROPOSED TO BE GRANITE, SO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. UH, GOOD EVENING COUNSEL. UM, I'M CHANDLER NEPA. I'M THE PARKS PROJECT MANAGER. UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THIS PROJECT, UM, FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW. SO WE WOULD BE MATCHING THE EXISTING GRANITE. UM, IT IS ONLY, UH, I BELIEVE A TWO INCH WIDE, UH, TREAD OR, UH, A RISER THAT SITS IN FRONT OF THE CAST IN PLACE STONE. THAT IS THE ACTUAL STARE ITSELF. DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? OKAY. AND SO IT WOULD MATCH? YES, IT WOULD MATCH. OKAY. AND, AND, AND SO IT WOULD HAVE, HAVE QUOTES? IT WOULD HAVE, UH, OKAY. AND WHERE HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE QUOTES AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? HAVE YOU ALL PUT ANY, PUT ANY TIME INTO THAT? THERE WAS A PREVIOUSLY SELECTED QUOTE, UM, THAT I BELIEVE WE HAVE DISCUSSED, UM, PUTTING THAT THROUGH, UH, SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, UM, WHAT MIGHT BE A GOOD QUOTE FOR THAT. OKAY. OKAY. IT'S OUT. AND, AND I'M SORRY, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, THE PRICING SLIDE? IT WAS ABOUT 20 MM-HMM . SO THE GRANITE RISER. YEAH. SO AN ADDITIONAL 20,000 1 61 TO ADD THE GRANITE RISER HONING IS POLISHING THE SMOOTHING AND, UH, AND, AND THEN SANDBLASTING. AND SO THE, THOSE WOULD BE STONES WITH THE, UH, CRUSHED GRANITE. IS THAT THE, THE THOUGHT I'M SORRY. YOU'D HAVE THE STEPS AND THEN CRUSHED GRANITE, OR WOULD IT BE THE STEPS IN IT? WOULD IT, WOULD IT MIRROR THE OTHER STEPS? OR WOULD THIS BE, UH, JUST THE STEPS IN THE CRUSH GRANITE? SO IS IT THE FIRST SET OF STEPS OR ALL? IT WOULD BE ONLY THE FIRST SET OF STEPS THAT ARE GOING TO RECEIVE, UM, THE GRANITE WITH THE POETIC VERSUS ON IT. UM, AND IT WOULD BE THE, THE GRANITE RISER, THE CAST IN PLACE, STONE, AND THEN THE DG THAT IS BEING STABILIZED ON THE BACK END, [04:15:01] WHICH IS DG, DECOMPRESS GRANITE. DECOMPRESS GRANITE. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. UM, OKAY. THANK YOU, DEAR. UH, BACK ON THAT, UH, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW, UH, DIDN'T EVEN GET ON MY RADAR ABOUT THE, UH, VERSUS SANDBLASTED IN THERE. UH, RANDY, YOU LIVE OVER IN THAT AREA. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN COMMENT ON, ON HOW, WHAT KIND OF, YOU'VE HEARD MUCH ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORS, UH, DESIRING THAT OVER THERE. I, I THOUGHT, UH, THE, WHAT ELIZABETH HAD BROUGHT UP, IT MADE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME IN KEEPING THE CHARACTER. UH, MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS WHERE DO WE GET THE MONEY FROM IF WE HAVE TO SPEND EXTRA MONEY? DO WE, DO WE HAVE IT? THAT'S ONE QUESTION. WE, WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT FUND BALANCE IN THE SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND. OKAY. AND WHAT WOULD, UH, WE HAVE TO GIVE UP SOMETHING ELSE CURRENTLY THAT'S ON THE RADAR? NO. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. AND THEN, UH, IS IT NICE OR MATERIAL ALSO? IS IT, OR IS IT JUST THE SANDBLASTING? SO THE, GOING WITH THE $20,000 OPTION, FIND ONE. SO HERE YOU HAVE A, A, IT'S ALL A CAST STONE. MM-HMM . UH, JUST IF IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE, I WISH WE HAD THE, AN IMAGE. IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE NICER, BUT IMAGINE THE FACE OF THAT, THE RISER PORTION WOULD BE THAT, THAT GRANITE IT WOULD BE, YEAH. SO IT SEEMED LIKE IT WOULD BE A NICER FINISH, ALSO NICER MATERIAL. YES. OKAY. UM, I'M, I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT MICHELLE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'LL BE BRIEF. UM, SO BILL, NUMBER ONE, UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT Y'ALL HAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS. UM, WERE THERE ANY ENHANCEMENTS THAT THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, SAID THAT THEY WANTED, THAT IS NOT A PART OF THIS PACKAGE? SO, UH, UM, THE LIGHTING IN THAT AREA WAS BROUGHT UP BY A NUMBER OF, OF PEOPLE. SO WE ARE IN, IN THE PROCESS OF, OF STUDYING THAT, EVALUATING IT, AND WE'LL COME BACK WITH A LIGHTING PACKAGE ALONG THE, UH, CELESTIAL. AND IT WAS VERY, IT'S VERY TREE THROUGH THERE. MM-HMM . UM, IT GETS, IT GETS A LITTLE, A LITTLE DARK. SO WE'RE, WE'VE GOT PRICING FOR LIKE POLE LIGHTS OR BOLLARDS, AND WE WILL COME BACK ONCE WE HAVE MORE DETAILS IN, IN EXACT PRICING AND SEE IF THERE'S INTEREST IN THAT AS A FUTURE PROJECT. THANK YOU. AND I DID WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY NOT, TO ME, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY THAT WE'LL GET READY TO SPEND, IT'S REALLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ACCESSIBILITY, THE, YOU KNOW, CORRECTION OF THE EROSION AND ALSO SAFETY. SO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK WE'RE JUST SPENDING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS JUST TO MAKE A PARK LOOK PRETTY. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, HAVING PROPER ACCESSIBILITY, THE EROSION, UH, ISSUE AND ALSO SAFETY. SO I'M ALL IN FOR THIS ONE. RANDY. THANK YOU. UH, THE MAIN CATALYST FOR THIS PROJECT IS THE EROSION ON THE, ON THE SLOPE. IN MY 26 YEARS OF LIVING THERE. I CAN REMEMBER ONE TIME THAT WE, THAT THE EROSION WAS REPAIRED AND SMOOTHED OUT, AND IT'S PRETTY DOGGONE EASY PROCESS. THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN TWO, I'LL GIVE IT TWO. UM, THE, THE LIGHTING, TO ANSWER DARREN'S QUESTION, THE LIGHTING IS FAR MORE A PRIORITY FOR MY NEIGHBORS ON THAT DARK SIDEWALK ALONG IN THERE. IF THE LIGHTING DOESN'T PROTRUDE INTO PEOPLE'S HOUSES, THEN I KNOW WE DO SOMETHING THAT DID NOT DO THAT. THE, UH, THE, THE HUGE EXPENSE OF STEPS INTO THAT PARK IS NOT AN ISSUE AT ALL. THE, THE SLOPE, WE LOVE IT. SO, UH, THIS WOULD BE A FINE EXAMPLE OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT A WHILE AGO. IT'S A, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT THAT GETS A LOT OF GREEN STICKERS AT THESE MEETINGS BECAUSE IT'S A PRETTY PROJECT. UH, IT, IT'S A FINE EXAMPLE OF STAFF BRINGING SOMETHING TO US, BUT IT'S ALSO THE BEST EXAMPLE I CAN THINK OF TO SAY THANKS. BUT NO, THANKS. THAT'S MONEY THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN SAVE. THANK YOU, CHRIS. I LIKE THE PROJECT. I, I'M REALLY THANKFUL THAT WE GOT THE, THE FEEDBACK FROM, FROM RESIDENTS, THE ENGAGEMENT. I ATTENDED THAT MEETING. I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS IN THAT, UM, MEETING WERE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU BROUGHT FORWARD. UM, I, I, I THINK WE HAVE A STANDARD HERE IN ADDISON FOR OUR OPEN SPACES. AND I THINK THIS ONE JUST NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, UPDATING. AND I THINK THIS DOES IT, UH, AND I WOULD SUPPORT THE STEPS. I THINK THAT'S A, A GREAT TOUCH ON, UM, ON THE EXISTING STEPS. AND I, I, I WOULD SUPPORT IT ON THE, ON THE, THE REWORK OF THE NEW STEPS. THANK YOU, CHRIS. UH, AND GO AHEAD. NO, GO AHEAD, MARLON. OH, NO, [04:20:01] I WAS GONNA ADD IS, UM, UH, JUST THIS IS A, A DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN I'M, I CAN EVER RECALL. BUT, UM, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF, OF HAVING THESE STEPS, PAYING TO HAVE THESE STEPS ALL MATCH. THIS IS AN ICONIC PARK, BUT I, BUT I CAN ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, GO, GO ALONG WITH RANDY'S IDEA, WHICH IS, HEY, JUST LET'S FIX THIS EROSION PROBLEM. 'CAUSE, 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE IT LATELY AND ADD LIGHTING AND, UM, AND WE RESTORED, RESTORED THE PARK AND IMPROVED IT. OKAY. WELL, UH, I LIKE THIS PROJECT A LOT. LEMME ASK YOU, UH, BILL, REGARDING THE, THE PUTTING THE, THE, THE WORDS ON THERE. IS THAT SOMETHING, IF WE DECIDED TO DO THAT DOWN THE ROAD, COULD WE DO THAT AT THE TIME WHEN WE DID FUTURE LIGHTING PROJECT OR SOMETHING? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO DO THAT NOW? OR WOULD WE BE UNDOING WORK TO GET THAT DONE? YEAH, 'CAUSE IT IS A, IT WOULD BE A, I DON'T KNOW IF THE THE STONES WOULD BE DIFFERENT OR, OR IF THERE WOULD BE MORE LABOR OR WORK INVOLVED IN ADDING THAT GRANITE AND THE, THE, THE POETRY AT A LATER TIME. SO, UM, ULTIMATELY THAT CASTSTONE CAN BE CUT. UM, IT WILL BE, IT WILL HAVE TO BE CUT IN THE FIELD, WHICH WILL CREATE SOME, SOME COMPLICATIONS. UM, AND UH, IT IS DOABLE THOUGH, SO IT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE IF WE DID IT LATER ON. INSTEAD OF DOING IT AT THE TIME OF THIS, YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY WASTE MATERIAL AND IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL PROJECT, WHICH WOULD LIKELY LEAD TO AN ESCALATION. UNDERSTAND, RANDY, IF I WERE IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT, I WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT THOUGH THAT POETRY OR THE PHRASE OR THE WHATEVER WE CALL THAT, I WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT TO BE ART. SO TO ME, THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ARBOR FOUNDATION TO COME IN AND DO THAT. AND, UM, STILL NOT IN FAVOR OF IT FOR THAT, BUT IF I WERE IN FAVOR, THAT SHOULD, THAT EXPENSE SHOULD BE PUT ON THE, THE ARBOR FOUNDATION FOR ART. WE'VE BEEN, THEY HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING. THEY, THE EAST SIDE HAS BEEN NEGLECTED IN THE ART AREA, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD REACH OUT TO DO. DAMN. BILL. UM, HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THIS DOESN'T PASS, WHAT WOULD THE CITY STAFF BE DOING WITH THIS AREA? UH, AS, AS INDICATED, WE'LL, WE'LL MAINTAIN, UH, TO MAINTAIN THE SAFETY, UH, WE'LL COME BACK WITH A, A LIGHTING PROJECT, WHICH HAS SUPPORT AND JUST KEEP, KEEP IT AS, AS IS. AND THEN I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION IS THIS. THIS IS, AS ELIZABETH SAID, THIS IS AN AWARD-WINNING PARK AS IS CORRECT. THIS WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS DETERIORATED OVER YEARS THAT DEGRADED THE PARK. THIS IS JUST A CONSTANT EVOLUTION OF REWORKING THIS SIDE OF THE PARK. CORRECT. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT SLOPE AND THAT DECOMPOSED GRANITE WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, BUT A, A PART OF THAT DESIGN IS THAT, THAT HAS EROSION ISSUES. AND THIS IS A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT. I WOULD AND ENHANCE THE, YEAH, I WOULD, I MEAN IT'S, THE EROSION ISSUE WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED. THIS IS, HEY, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE EROSION ISSUE. THIS IS AN ENHANCEMENT TO THE PARK. IT MAKES THAT ENTRANCE IMPROVED. THE WATER FOUNTAIN HAS TO BE FIXED REGARDLESS. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET A NEW WATER FOUNTAIN. CORRECT. THAT'S GONNA BE A COST. WE DEFINITELY WANNA GET LIGHTING ON CELESTIAL AT SOME POINT. UM, SO THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A SEPARATE PROJECT. SO I, I WOULD VIEW IT AS, HEY, YEAH, WE HAVE AN IMMEDIATE ISSUE IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT. THE OPTION BEFORE YOU IS TO DO AN ENHANCEMENT WITH THE, AND THAT'S THE HARD THING I'M HAVING WITH THIS IS THAT WE KNOW WE NEED LIGHTING. WE'VE, WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT, THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE ADDRESSED THAT. MAYBE NOT IN THAT TOWN MEETING. I WASN'T THERE, I WAS OUTTA TOWN, UNFORTUNATELY COULDN'T ATTEND THAT. BUT THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE FOR ME WHERE, LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BATHROOMS BILL, THERE'S NOT OPTION A, B, OR C WHERE YOU CAN PIECE THE PROJECT TOGETHER BASED ON HOW COMFORTABLE YOUR LEVELS ARE OF SAFETY, CONVENIENCE, AND OVERALL AESTHETIC TO THE PARK. IT'S AN AWARD-WINNING PARK WITHOUT THIS, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, AND MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT THIS DOESN'T MAKE AN AWARD-WINNING PARK. IT ALREADY IS. THIS IS JUST A REDO, A REFRESH THAT JUST HAPPENS TO BE $268,000 OR $288,000 IF THE EXTRA 20 GETS KICKED IN. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. HAVING TO DO WITH THE WATER FOUNTAINS, WHO ORIGINALLY INSTALLED PAID FOR THOSE WATER? I, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS IT WAS A FOUNDATION THAT PUT THOSE IN. YEAH, THE, THE SIGN SAYS IT WAS FOUNDATION. MARLIN MAY ACTUALLY KNOW MORE. YEAH, THEY, THEY WERE DONATED BY THE ADDISON LEGACY FOUNDATION LEGACY. THAT'S THE ONE THEY PAID FOR IT AND THEN THE TOWN INSTALLED IT. SO THEY JUST, THEY JUST DONATED THE MONEY AND WE ASSUMED [04:25:01] OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE. YES. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IF THE ARBOR FOUNDATION, UH, IF WE DO ASK THEM TO FUND THIS? YOU KNOW, I, I MEAN, WE ALREADY KNOW HOW MUCH IT COSTS REALLY. MOST ARBOR FOUNDATION PROJECTS OR WE GIVE THEM MONEY, THEN THEY DO. SO I, I DON'T REALLY UNDER, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD GIVE THEM MONEY TO THEN SPEND ON SOMETHING WE WANT TO, THAT'S SELF-FUNDED. OKAY. ALRIGHT. NEXT QUESTION. SO YEAH, THE SAFETY AND ACCESSIBILITY. UM, I'VE KIND OF FORGOT TO MENTION THAT, THAT THAT'S A FUNDAMENTAL PART HERE AS WELL. SO AT THE, UH, I BELIEVE I WAS AT THAT, UM, 30TH MEETING, UH, JULY 30TH MEETING. UH, I DON'T RECALL OPPOSITION TO THIS. WHAT DID I MISS SOME OF THAT? THERE WAS A LOT OF SUPPORT THAT I HEARD. OH, IT JUST WAS, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO, SOMETIMES I MISS THINGS. I HEY, Y'ALL CAN, YOU'RE CONSIDERING A LOT OF FACTORS, BUT I THINK THERE WAS APPLAUSE AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION DURING THE COMMUTE. UH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. SO DO WE GET ANY ECONOMY OF SCALE ON ALTERNATE TWO? THE, THE LIGHTING AND IS THAT THE SAME LIGHTING AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT LIGHTING. OKAY. AND IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT WHAT THAT WAS, SO I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THAT THEN. OKAY. SO, UH, THE LIGHTING THAT'S NECESSARY, THAT'S BEEN ASKED FOR DOWN THE DOWN CELESTIAL, UH, IS THAT ANY ECONOMY OF SCALE OF DOING THAT? NOW THAT'S REALLY NOT IN THE SCOPE AT ALL BECAUSE YOU ALREADY ANSWERED THE QUESTION. OKAY. CORRECT ABOUT IT. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH OUR CONTINGENCY IS TO PUT SOME SLEEVING AND THINGS IN SO THAT WE WILL HAVE MINIMAL DISRUPTION. OKAY. ALRIGHT. FOR THAT ANTICIPATED, THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION. SINCE IT'S NOT THAT ALTERNATE, THEN IT REALLY IS NOT AN ECONOMY OF SCALE QUESTION. THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, MARTIN? YES. UH, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR DAVID. DAVID, I WASN'T AT THAT MEETING. I'M SORRY, I MISSED THAT. UM, BUT CAN YOU, CAN YOU SHED A LITTLE LIGHT ON HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE THERE AND, AND YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR INPUT TO THIS? UH, I THINK WE PROPOSAL IN THE, WE ESTIMATED 50 IN THE PRESENTATION. UM, I'M SORRY, FIVE ZERO. FIVE ZERO, OKAY. IT WAS OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT. OKAY. RANDY, WERE YOU AT THAT MEETING? I WAS. OKAY. MOSTLY WEST SIDE PEOPLE WAS WEST. WEST SIDE OF WHAT? WELL, OKAY. I DON'T TALK ABOUT SIZE. I JUST, UM, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY SIX D NOT HEARING YOU SECOND. THE MOTION DIES. I'LL STILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'D LIKE, OH, GO AHEAD. I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE UH, THAT WE, THAT WE DO THE LIGHTING, THAT WE DO THE FOUNTAIN AND WE JUST RESTORE THE GR UH, UH, DECOMPOSE, UH, GRANITE THE WAY IT WAS. WILL SECOND THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WELL, HOLD ON QUESTION. YEAH. I, I THINK THE IDEA BEFORE US, I MEAN, IT, IT STARTED BECAUSE OF THE EROSION ISSUE AND THE FIX WAS THE STEPS. SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'LL BE WITHOUT THE STEPS. IT'S NOT AN IMPROVEMENT. IT'S JUST BRINGING IT BACK TO WHERE IT WAS. AND, AND THIS IS A PARK THAT I THINK IS WORTH INVESTING IN. I MEAN, IT'S, I DO TOO. WE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, TO THE POINTS THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, WE HAVEN'T INVESTED ENOUGH IN, IN, UH, IN ART AND IN MAYBE IN THE PARKS. AND THIS IS PART OF TOWN, I THINK IT'S WORTH INVESTING IN. AND WE, WE'VE HEARD, WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR AT THE, AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING THAT THEY LOVE THIS IDEA, UM, AND, AND WE'RE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY AND THIS IS WHAT THEY SAY THEY WANT. AND DAVID SAID IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FUND BALANCE AVAILABLE. IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT THE, THE TAX RATE, THE BUDGET. TO ME, THE WHOLE IDEA MAKES SENSE TO DO THIS PROJECT THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED. AND I WOULD, I WOULD BE SU SUPPORTIVE OF THE, UM, ADDING THE, UH, THE VERSE OR WHATEVER WE, WE PUT ON FRONT OF THAT FOR THE, UH, $20,000, UH, INCREASE. I WOULD TOO. SO THAT'S WHERE I AM WITH IT. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE TRYING TO DO, DO A LESSER PROJECT ON A, ON A ONE OF, YOU KNOW, A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN OUR TOWN AND A BEAUTIFUL PARK THAT EVERYBODY LOVES OVER THERE. AND, UM, THAT'S, AND AND THE COMM AND THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN REALLY CLEAR THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS. THE, THE EROSION HAS ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED AND SMOOTH. THE PICTURE YOU SAW TONIGHT IS AN OLD PICTURE BEFORE IT WAS SMOOTHED OUT SIX MONTHS AGO, A YEAR AGO. SOMETHING WHERE ALONG IN THERE. BUT THEY SAID THEY SAW, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE THAT HAPPENS OFTEN. THEY SAW THIS PROJECT, THEY LIKED THE PROJECT, AND THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT'S BROUGHT BEFORE US. [04:30:01] AND TO, AND TO THE POINT THAT WAS MADE EARLIER. STAFF DOESN'T JUST MAKE UP STUFF TO BRING TO US TO, FOR US TO SPEND MONEY ON. YOU KNOW, THEY GET, THEY GET DIRECTION FROM THE COMMUNITY, THEY GET DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL. THEY JUST DON'T SIT IN THERE AND SAY, WELL, HOW CAN WE GO ASK THE COUNCIL TO SPEND MONEY ON STUFF? THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY DO. THEY GET DIRECTION FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL. SO I THINK IT'S A LITTLE INSULTING THAT YOU SAY THINGS LIKE THAT TO TO ABOUT THE STAFF THAT THEY JUST KEEP BRINGING US, BRINGING US THINGS TO SPEND MONEY ON. I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. THAT'S NOT AN INSULT TO THE STAFF AT ALL. A HUNDRED PERCENT IS, UH, ABSOLUTELY NOT. I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. UH, I THINK WE SHOULD INVEST IN THE EAST SIDE. EAST SIDE. I THINK IT'S THIS PARK, UH, DESERVES SOME INVESTMENT AND I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT, UM, AS PRESCRIBED FOR THE PROJECT. WE SPENT THE TIME ON THIS. WE TOLD THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. AND I'M NOT, UH, A FAN OF GOING BACKWARDS ON THAT. I'M IN FAVOR OF THE CELESTIAL LIGHTING ONCE WE GET THE SCOPE FOR THAT, AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE ON THAT IF THAT'S WITHIN THE SPEND THAT WE WANT TO MAKE, IF IT MAKES SENSE. BUT, UH, I I WON'T BE VOTING FOR THIS MOTION. WELL, THAT'S THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE. YEAH, WELL THAT IS THE MO THE LIGHTING. I THINK THE LIGHTING IS, I THINK THAT'S MY BIGGEST STICKING POINT. WE'RE GONNA PUT STEPS IN NOW IN A DARK AREA AND THEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO NAVIGATE THOSE STEPS IN THE DARK. I, I FEEL, I FEEL WE'RE OPENING OURSELF UP. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LIGHTING COSTS. NO, I THINK WE SHOULD PAUSE, REWORK THIS, REWORK THIS DESIGN SCALE BACK MAYBE THE HEIGHT OF THESE WALLS OR THE RETENTION OF THESE WALLS TO ADD LIGHTING SO THAT WE HAVE LIT STEPS. SO THERE IS NO ISSUES AT NIGHT IN THIS DARK, IN THIS DARK SECTION OF THE PARK. WE'VE ALL AGREED THAT THE PARK IS DARK, BUT YET WE'RE NOT GONNA ADDRESS LIGHTING. BUT ADD STEPS THAT I THINK IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. OR INDEPENDENT MOTION. UM, YES. UH, YES. SO MY MOTION IS TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH LIGHTING. UH, FIX THE, FIX THE FOUNTAIN, UH, KEEP THE DECOMPOSED GRANITE, UH, THE WAY IT IS. UM, AND, AND, AND I THINK THIS, THIS PARK IS ICONIC. I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE IT. AND I VIEW THE STEPS IN DECOMPOSED GRANITE WITH THESE STEPS AND DIFFERENT KIND OF STEPS, UM, AS IS CHANGING SOMETHING THAT IS GREAT AND ALTERING THAT. SO, UM, UH, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S MY MOTION AND THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. YOU HAVE A MOTION AND DAN, I'LL SECONDED IT. UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. I KEEP YOUR HANDS UP PLEASE. 1, 2, 3 OPPOSED. NAY. NAY, NAY FOR OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. WE, THAT DID NOT, UH, PASS. IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION? I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WHAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US. UH, ADD THE ADDITION OF THE, THE, UM, ETCHING ON THE STEPS. OKAY. THAT'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT. A MOTION. THANK YOU, NEL. I DON'T KNOW WHY ANY, THE DISCUSSION THAT THAT, UH, ADDITION IS THE ALTERNATE BID ITEM ONE, ONE. AND AS FAR AS DISCUSSION GOES, WE NEED TO GET THE LIGHTING RIGHT. I MEAN, DAN BRINGS UP A GREAT POINT. MM-HMM . YEAH, I'D RATHER DO THAT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. AND, AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION ON THESE STEPS, ARE THEY GONNA BE THE GRANITE OR ARE THEY GONNA HOWEVER IT WAS SUBMITTED. GRANTED, WELL I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. HOW WAS IT SUBMITTED? IT'S A COMBINATION. MARLON. IT WAS, IT WAS SOME, SOME COMPRESSED AND THEN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE FASCIA IS GONNA BE THE GRANITE, THE FASCIA OF THE STEPS IS GOING TO BE THE GRANITE THAT'S GOING TO GET SANDBLASTED WITH, UH, PHRASES. IT'S CASTSTONE. CASTSTONE. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. 1, 2, 3, 4. ALL OPPOSED? AYE NAY. ALRIGHT, ITEM IS APPROVED FOUR TO THREE. THANK YOU BILL, SIR. ALL RIGHT. OUR [Items of Community Interest] FINAL ITEM OF DENIED ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. IT'S AT OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNSEL TO SHARE EXPRESSIONS OF THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE, ET CETERA. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE HERE? I DO. UM, I WAS AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB MONDAY FOR LABOR DAY AND IT WAS AWESOME TO BE THERE. A LOT OF HAPPY PEOPLE WORKING OUT AND SO I'M APPRECIATIVE OF OF HAVING, UH, THE, THE ATHLETIC CLUB OPEN EVEN IF IT WAS A SKELETON CREW. UM, BUT WE DID HAVE A GOOD TURNOUT OF 350, UH, PEOPLE USE THE CLUB THAT DAY, SO IT WAS NICE TO HAVE THAT OPTION. THANK YOU MARLON. ANYBODY ELSE? THANK OR CHANEL? GO AHEAD. YEAH, SO, UH, COUPLE OF THINGS. I WANT TO, NUMBER ONE, THANK THE STAFFS, UH, STEVEN AND YOUR STAFF AND REALLY EVERYBODY FOR JUST AS THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I WENT AROUND FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE PROCESS, UH, DIGESTIBLE, UM, AND AN EASY PROCESS. SO NUMBER ONE, THANK YOU FOR THAT. I ALSO WANT TO JUST, UH, REITERATE, REITERATE, UH, JUST CONGRATULATIONS TO EMILIO, UH, MONTE LAVO, I THINK THAT'S HIS NAME, UH, TO THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER PROGRAM. UM, I ALSO WANT TO SAY TO THE RESIDENTS THAT REACHED OUT TO ME [04:35:01] ABOUT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WERE ON THE AGENDA TODAY. I WANT YOU TO KNOW, I HEARD YOU, UM, ALSO WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO LESLIE AND, UH, ASHLEY, UH, FOR THE MEETING LAST WEEK. UM, AND DEFINITELY JUST WANTED TO GIVE A LAST SHOUT OUT TO, I WAS OUT THIS MORNING WALKING IN NORTH ADDISON PARK, UM, AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION, UM, TEAM WAS OUT THERE WORKING REALLY HARD. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANKS TO MATT, UH, ANSTEAD, BILL POSNER AND MATEO BEATRICE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT HIS NAME WAS. AND THEN LAST THAT I'LL WORK, UH, UM, FINISH UP WITH IS THE EVENT I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO OUR NORTH DALLAS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT, UH, MEETING THAT WE HAD THE OTHER DAY ABOUT, UH, PRIME AIR. AND THEN ALSO SEND A MOMENT OF, UH, THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO THOSE THAT WERE AFFECTED IN THE TRAGEDY IN DETROIT. RANDY, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I DO. UH, NOT EVERYONE MAY KNOW. TONIGHT'S OUR LAST NIGHT WITH NICOLE FOR QUITE A WHILE. I THINK I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO, UH, WISH HER WELL. I'D LIKE TO WISH HER ALL THE GRACE THAT GOD CAN PROVIDE HER THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT SHE'S GOING THROUGH. AND WE WILL MISS YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR RETURN WHEN THE TIME IS IS RIGHT. SO GOOD LUCK TO YOU. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. DAN, YOU GOT SOMETHING? YEP. BRAVO. GO GET 'EM NICOLE. UM, WITH PARENTING, WITH, WITH PARENTING, I'D LIKE TO SORT OF RECOGNIZE CRUZ, CRUZ HAYES, PASSION SON, 10 YEARS OLD. I JUST FIND OUT TONIGHT HAS BEEN ELECTED TO HIS STUDENT CITY, HIS STUDENT COUNCIL, FUTURE LEADER, FUTURE CITY COUNCILMAN. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOUR SON. I THINK THAT'S OUTSTANDING. GREAT JOB. MOM AND DAD. AARON, YOU HAD SOMETHING. JUST A QUICK THANK YOU. UM, YOU BROUGHT IT UP CHANEL, I APPRECIATE THAT ALL, ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT DID, UH, CHIME IN ON THIS ROSEWOOD PROJECT. UH, I APPRECIATE THAT TOO MANY TIMES WE HEAR FROM, UH, JUST THE NAYSAYERS, UM, AND THE NO MORE APARTMENT PEOPLE. AND I LIKE TO HEAR FROM, FROM BOTH SIDES ON TOPIC. SO I DO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT INPUT. AND THAT'S, THEY'RE NOT HERE TONIGHT. MAYBE THEY'LL WATCH THE, UH, THE TAPE, BUT THAT, THAT MEANS A LOT TO US TO GET, UH, THE, THE FULL INPUT, THE THOUGHTFUL INPUT, INSTEAD OF JUST CHECKING A BOX AND, AND IT BEING AN AUTOMATIC WEB BOT THAT SENDS US AN EMAIL. UM, IT'S, IT'S HEARING FROM ANYBODY'S INPUT IS, IS ALL ALWAYS, UH, GOOD. SO I APPRECIATE THAT FROM THE RESIDENTS. JUST ONE FINAL THING FROM YOU, I JUST WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO WE HAD TO, UH, THEY HAVE AN ELECTRICAL PANEL IN NORTH ADDISON PARK THAT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. AND, UH, THEY PUT SIGNAGE UP, SAID THAT THE, THE LIGHTS ARE LIGHTS ARE GONNA BE OFF AT NIGHT FROM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY OF THAT WEEK. AND I THOUGHT, WELL, PROBABLY BY THURSDAY OR SO THEY'LL BE DONE WITH IT. WELL, THEY RAN INTO SOME ISSUES. IT ENDED UP BEING A TWO WEEK PROJECT, WHICH MEANT WE HAD NO LIGHTS, WHICH THAT'S WHY IT, ONE, THEY MAKE FLASHLIGHTS, BUT THAT ALSO MEANT, MEANT THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM WASN'T ON. SO THAT THE, THE, THE PARK TOOK A BEATING FOR TWO WEEKS, BUT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS. WATER AND EXTRA TAKING CARE OF IT, AND IT'S COMING BACK. IT'S LOOKING, IT'S LOOKING A LOT BETTER. SO I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THOSE GUYS DO IN THIS RIDICULOUS HEAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH. SO, UM, THANKS, THANKS TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITH THAT. AND, UH, WITH THAT IT IS 10 56 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED FOR THE NIGHT, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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