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          OKAY, 
          [Call to Order]
GOOD EVENING. 
          IT IS, UH, 6:00 PM AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEDIA OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026. 
          THIS IS A SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON THE BUDGET, AND, UH, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT WITH ALL MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING. 
          AND AS ALWAYS, WOULD LIKE TO START THE MEETINGS WITH THE PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS. 
          IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE A PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. 
          FOR HONOR, THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE. 
          SAFE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          WE HAVE, UH, TWO 
          [a. Hold a public hearing, present, and discuss the Town of Addison's proposed Property Tax Rate for the fiscal year commencing October 1, 2026 and ending September 30, 2027.]
ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT THAT ARE BOTH PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          OUR FIRST ITEM IS ITEM THREE A, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, PRESENT AND DISCUSS THE TOWN OF ADDISON'S PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR COMMENCING OCTOBER 1ST, 2026, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027. 
          STEVEN, GOOD EVENING. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. 
          AND, UH, WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING. 
          WE HAVE OUR, UH, FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027. 
          UH, SO, UH, I SHOWED THIS WHEN WE WENT THROUGH, UH, THE, UM, MEETING THAT WE HAD, UH, TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET, UH, IN EARLY AUGUST. 
          UH, BUT THIS IS THE SAME CALENDAR THAT I SHOWED YOU AT THAT POINT. 
          WE MOVED A LITTLE, A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE, UH, DOWN THE LEDGER HERE. 
          SO WE'RE HERE ON, ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST FOR OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE AND BUDGET. 
          UH, WE HAVE SCHEDULED AT THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH. 
          UH, WE WOULD HAVE THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE AND BUDGET, AND THEN YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE ORDINANCES, UH, TO CONSIDER FOR ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE AND BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027. 
          AND THEN ABOUT THREE WEEKS AFTER THAT, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 1ST, WE WOULD BEGIN THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR. 
          UH, SO AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TAX RATE, THERE'S A FEW DEFINITIONS THAT YOU'LL SEE, UM, AS FAR AS OUR TAX RATE CALCULATIONS GO. 
          SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT M AND O RATE, THAT'S OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS RATE. 
          AND FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON, MOST OF THAT, UH, IS PROPERTY TAX THAT GOES TO OUR GENERAL FUND. 
          AND THEN THE TOWN OF ADDISON ALSO HAS SOME, UH, OTHER FUNDS, THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND AND OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND THAT RECEIVES SOME PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, UH, WHICH ARE PART OF THAT MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS RATE. 
          THEN WE HAVE OUR INS RATE, AND THIS IS FOR, UH, DEBT SERVICE. 
          SO, UH, WHEN WE GO OUT AND WE SELL, UH, BONDS, UH, FOR SAY THE POLICE STATION, UH, THAT'S COMING UP, UH, THAT THAT TAX RATE IS CALCULATED ON WHAT WE OWE TO REPAY THOSE BONDS EACH YEAR. 
          AND THAT DETERMINES WHAT THAT INTEREST IN SINKING RATE IS. 
          SO THE COMBINATION OF THOSE TWO MAKE UP THE TOTAL TAX RATE, UH, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. 
          SO THIS IS A CALCULATION THAT, UH, IS REQUIRED BY, UH, STATE LAW. 
          SO THIS, UH, IS BASICALLY A RATE THAT WOULD GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE FROM THE SAME PROPERTIES AS THE PRIOR YEAR. 
          SO IF PROPERTY VALUES GO UP, THEN THAT NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE GOES DOWN. 
          IF PROPERTY VALUES GO DOWN THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE GOES UP BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO RAISE THE RATE TO GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE FROM THE SAME PROPERTY. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, AND THIS IS THE MAXIMUM RATE THAT, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN ADOPT WITHOUT GETTING VOTER APPROVAL. 
          SO A RATE THAT EXCEEDS THAT VOTER APPROVAL RATE, UH, GENERATES, UH, AN ELECTION. 
          UH, SO JUST SOME, SOME HISTORY ON OUR TOTAL CERTIFIED VALUES. 
          UM, THIS IS A VIEW OF THE LAST 10 YEARS. 
          SO FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027, OUR CERTIFIED VALUES CAME IN WHERE 71% COMMERCIAL, UH, 13% BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY, AND 16% OF OUR TAX BASE IS RESIDENTIAL. 
          UH, THEN OUR TAX RATE INFORMATION, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE, UH, THOSE TWO, UH, CALCULATED TAX RATES. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE IS, UH, THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, AND THEN THE ADOPTED RATE FOR 2026 AND THE PROPOSED RATE FOR 2027. 
          UH, SO THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE FOR 2027 IS JUST UNDER 59 AND A HALF CENTS. 
          UH, THE PROPOSED RATE IS, UH, 59.81 CENTS. 
          SO WE'RE JUST BARELY OVER WHAT THAT NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE IS. 
          AND THEN THAT VOTER APPROVAL RATE, YOU CAN SEE IS, UH, 66.77 CENTS. 
          SO, UH, SO THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, OF ROOM THERE, UH, TO GO UP IF, IF, UH, THAT WAS, WAS SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO BE CONSIDERED. 
          SO OVERALL, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, I THINK THE, THE TAKEAWAY HERE IS, UH, THE PROPOSED RATE IS A CENT LOWER THAN WHAT THE CURRENT TAX RATE IS. 
          UH, AND WE'RE JUST BARELY OVER THAT, NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WHICH MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT GENERATING NEW TAXES 
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ON, UH, THE SAME PROPERTIES AS THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          SO WHAT MAKES UP THAT OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE TAX RATE? SO I KIND OF WENT OVER THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE GENERAL FUND RECEIVES THE BULK OF THAT, UH, THOSE DOLLARS. 
          SO, AND THAT'S ALSO WHERE THE REDUCTION IN THE TAX RATE IS PROPOSED. 
          UH, SO GOING FROM 40.19 CENTS DOWN TO 39.19 CENTS. 
          SO THAT IS THAT 1 CENT REDUCTION, UH, IN THE PROPOSED TAX RATE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND, UH, THOSE RATES ARE SET BY AN ORDINANCE AND, UH, THOSE ORDINANCES ARE ONLY UPDATED IF COUNCIL CHOSE TO CHANGE THOSE. 
          WE DID THAT, UH, LAST YEAR, UH, WITH THE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND. 
          SO THAT WAS INCREASED A LITTLE BIT. 
          UH, IT'S STATIC THIS YEAR AT TWO AND A HALF CENTS. 
          AND THEN THE IN INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND, UH, IS ABOUT 0.62 CENTS, UH, OF THE TAX RATE. 
          SO OVERALL MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, 42.31 CENTS, AGAIN, UH, A 1 CENT REDUCTION, UH, IN THAT RATE. 
          AND THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR OVERALL GENERAL FUND, AND WE SHOW THIS, UH, THIS SLIDE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL REVENUE THAT'S, UH, BEING GENERATED FROM OUR GENERAL FUND, 8% OF THAT, UH, OVERALL, UH, REVENUE BURDEN IS GENERATED FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX. 
          UH, SO JUST 8% OF THE OVERALL GENERAL FUND REVENUE, UH, COMES FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX AND THEN THE TOTAL TAX RATE IN ADDISON. 
          SO THIS INCLUDES ALL THE TAXING ENTITIES. 
          WHEN WE MET AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP IN EARLY AUGUST, UH, THAT JUST INCLUDED THE RATES THAT THOSE ENTITIES, UH, HAD ADOPTED IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS AS US. 
          UH, SINCE THEN, UH, WE KNOW THAT, UH, DALLAS ISD IS, IS SHOWING A SLIGHT REDUCTION IN THEIR PROPERTY TAX RATE. 
          UH, WE KNOW THAT DALLAS COUNTY, UH, IS PROPOSING AN INCREASE THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO VOTERS FOR APPROVAL. 
          UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ON A NOVEMBER, UH, BALLOT. 
          IF THEY GO FORWARD WITH THAT, THE OTHER ENTITIES ARE, UH, SHOWING THE SAME TAX RATE OTHER THAN, UH, THE TOWN WHICH IS SHOWING A 1 CENT REDUCTION. 
          UH, SO OVERALL, IF, UH, THE PROPOSED RATES THAT THE OTHER ENTITIES ARE PROPOSING WENT FORWARD, THERE WOULD BE A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE OVERALL, UH, TAX RATE IN ADDISON. 
          AND THEN WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON OUR AVERAGE HOMEOWNER? WE ALSO INCLUDE WATER AND SEWER, UH, IN THIS AS WELL. 
          BUT THE OVERALL PROPERTY TAX BURDEN FOR OUR AVERAGE HOMEOWNER, UH, WOULD DECREASE ABOUT $2 AND 60 CENTS CENTS PER MONTH. 
          NOW, PROPERTY TAXES ARE PAID ANNUALLY, BUT, UH, THE WATER AND SEWER BILLS ARE ALSO ARE PAID MONTHLY. 
          SO IF YOU ADD ALL THOSE TOGETHER ON A MONTHLY BASIS, WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT ABOUT JUST A QUARTER, UH, INCREASE PER FOR OUR RESIDENTS, UH, ON THEIR PROPERTY TAX AND WATER AND SEWER, UH, BILLS PER MONTH, WHICH COMES OUT TO ABOUT, UH, $3 PER YEAR. 
          WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, STEVEN. 
          DAN. 
          THANK YOU, STEVEN. 
          UM, CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE FOUR, OR SORRY, SLIDE SEVEN OR, YEAH, THERE YOU GO. 
          SO FOR SOMEONE LIKE MYSELF, WHEN LOOKING AT ALL OF THE REVENUE, THE 92%, IS THERE A BREAKOUT, OBVIOUSLY IN THE BUDGET BINDER AND OR ON THE, ON THIS PRESENTATION THAT SHOWS RESTAURANTS IN THEIR ENTIRETY WHAT THEIR CONTRIBUTION TAX RATE WOULD LOOK LIKE IF YOU BROKE THEM OUT SEPARATELY FROM EVERYTHING ELSE THERE? THERE'S NOT, SO, UM, THERE, AND, AND THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, AS FAR AS PROPERTY TAXES GO, THEY LUMP ALL COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES OTHER THAN RESIDENTIAL AND BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY. 
          ALL COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ARE KIND OF LUMPED IN, UH, TOGETHER. 
          AND SOMETHING THAT'S A RESTAURANT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT MAY SHOW UP AS A, IF IT'S A BIG DEVELOPMENT SUCH AS VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, THAT SHOWS UP AS ONE PROPERTY TAX ACCOUNT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO, SO AS FAR AS THAT GOES, THERE'S NO REAL WAY TO BREAK OUT WHAT ONE OF THOSE RESTAURANTS WOULD BE GENERATING IN PROPERTY TAX, BECAUSE MY, I'M INTRIGUED BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE KNOWN AS THE RESTAURANT CAPITAL, RIGHT? WE HAVE SO MANY PER CAPITA. 
          AND YET, JUST TO ASK THAT SIMPLE QUESTION, IS IT 10%, 20%? I WOULD, I WOULD BE IN INCLINED TO BE INTRIGUED TO KNOW. 
          IF YOU HAD TO GUESS JUST THROWING A DART IN THE BLIND, WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE IF WE WERE TO LUMP OUR RESTAURANTS AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE 92%? UH, AS FAR AS, WELL, AND THEY'RE ALSO GENERATING SALES TAX. 
          SO WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT OUR RESTAURANTS GENERATE LITTLE LESS THAN 20% OF OUR SALES TAX. 
          SO WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT, UH, THAT ALONE IS GONNA MAKE UP, YOU KNOW, OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR, ALMOST $4 MILLION IN, IN SALES TAX FROM, FROM ALL THE RESTAURANTS, AND, BUT IT'S A, AND THAT ALONE IS GONNA MAKE UP ABOUT 8%, AND THAT'S NOT EVEN GETTING INTO THE PROPERTY TAX. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S, I WOULD, I WOULD ESTIMATE AT LEAST 10% WHEN YOU INCLUDED PROPERTY, BECAUSE I LOOK AT WHEN WE LOSE A RESTAURANT, MORE THAN JUST LOOKING AT IT SIMPLY AS THE DOOR CLOSING, LIKE LOSING CANTINA, IT'S MOSTLY FACETS TO ME. 
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WHEN ONE DOMINO GOES DOWN, WHAT COMES NEXT? AND THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT DOES IT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AS A TAXPAYER? CORRECT. 
          BECAUSE THEY ARE A TAXPAYER AS WELL. 
          EACH RESTAURANT IS A TAXPAYER. 
          TH THEY ARE IN SOME, IN, IN A LOT OF CASES, THEY'RE NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER. 
          THEY MAY BE LEASING THE PROPERTY, UH, BUT THEY DO OWN THE BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY THAT ARE IN EACH OF THOSE RESTAURANTS. 
          AND, UM, AT THE, THE WAY THE, THE EXEMPTIONS WORK FOR THAT. 
          NOW, A LOT OF THEM AREN'T PAYING TAX ON THOSE IF, IF THEY'RE SMALLER RESTAURANTS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE OVER 125,000 IN BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY TO, YOU KNOW, TO OWE ANY ANYTHING IN TAX. 
          BUT, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THEIR SALES TAX AND OTHER THINGS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE USING ELECTRICITY, THEY'RE USING WATER AND SEWER SERVICE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BUT THEY'RE A CONTRIBUTOR TO THE TOWN'S ASSETS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, STEVEN. 
          RANDY, THANK YOU. 
          UH, THE INS WITH THE DEBT, WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? UH, 17.50 CENTS. 
          SO WE'RE KEEPING THAT, UH, IN, IN DOLLARS. 
          WHAT, WHAT IS THAT FIGURED, WHAT DOES THAT TRANSLATE INTO? THE DOLLARS THAT WE, IN I WE'RE USING, I BELIEVE THAT'S GENERATING ABOUT $11 MILLION. 
          UH, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND, AND DOUBLE CHECK. 
          UH, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S ABOUT $11 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. 
          AND, AND IS THAT COVERING OUR DEBT? WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT, HOW MUCH DEBT DO WE PAY EVERY YEAR? IT, IT IS COVERING WHAT IS REPAID BY PROPERTY TAX. 
          SO YES, IT IS. 
          THERE'S OTHER THAT IS REPAID BY THE AIRPORT REVENUE THAT'S REPAID BY WATER AND SEWER REVENUE OR STORM WATER REVENUE. 
          SO THE PORTION THAT IS REPAYABLE BY PROPERTY TAX, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THAT COVERS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THERE'S NO EXCESS EXCESS THERE, THERE. 
          THAT'S NOT A FUND THAT, THAT GROWS AND HAS A, HAS A BALANCE. 
          YEAH. 
          ACTUALLY STATE LAW, WE COULD CUT THAT AND, AND STILL PAY OUR DEBT AND, AND MAYBE LOWER THE PROPERTY TAX A LITTLE BIT THAT YEAH, ACTUALLY, SO STATE LAW, YOU CAN'T GENERATE MORE IN THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY TAX RATE THAN YOU ACTUALLY OWE FOR YOUR DEBT SERVICE. 
          GOOD TO KNOW. 
          SO WE HAVE TO SUBMIT WHAT WE'RE GONNA REPAY NEXT YEAR, AND THEN THAT IS JUST A SIMPLE CALCULATION OF THIS IS WHAT YOU OWE, THIS IS YOUR PROPERTY TAX BASE, THIS IS YOUR, THIS IS YOUR RATE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND, YES, IT IS TWO AND A HALF CENTS. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE REDUCING THE PROPERTY TAXES BY 1 CENT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF TALKS ABOUT 1 CENTS AND ONE PENNIES OVER THE LAST MANY MONTHS, AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT AS WE HAVE FOUND OUT THAT THAT TRANSLATES TO A LOT OF MONEY IN SOME CASES. 
          WHAT, WHAT IS THAT 2.2 AND A HALF CENTS? HOW MUCH MONEY IS THAT GENERATING? UH, IT'S, UH, I BELIEVE BETWEEN 1.6 AND 1.7 MILLION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A RECURRING ENTITY EVERY YEAR. 
          WE DON'T, WE APPROVE THAT BY ORDINANCE. 
          SO THAT'S GONNA, WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO COME AND DO ANOTHER ORDINANCE TO TAKE THAT AWAY IF WE DECIDED THAT THIS FUND NOW HAS ENOUGH FUNDS IN IT. 
          YEAH, IF YOU, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT IF THERE WAS EVER, AND THAT SAME THING FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND, THERE IS AN ORDINANCE THAT LISTS, BASICALLY, AND I'LL GO BACK TO, UH, THIS SLIDE THAT LISTS THAT BREAKOUT OF, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND. 
          AND IT'S AT TWO AND A HALF CENTS. 
          UH, INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND IS AT AT 0.62 CENTS. 
          THOSE ARE SPECIFICALLY LAID OUT IN THAT ORDINANCE. 
          SO IF COUNSEL AT SOME POINT WISH TO REPEAL THOSE OR CHANGE THEM LAST YEAR, WE, WE AMENDED THAT TO INCREASE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RIGHT AMOUNT. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNCIL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S NOT A YEARLY APPROVAL THING. 
          I, I, CORRECT. 
          I GUESS THAT WAS A LEARNING CURVE FOR ME ON THAT. 
          I, I WOULD RATHER SEE THAT BE APPROVED EVERY YEAR, BUT IF, IF IT DOES GET, IF THE FUND DOES GET TO A LEVEL THAT WE THINK IT IS SELF-SUSTAINING FOR A FEW YEARS, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND, AND MAKE A RESOLUTION AND, AND DO A, AN ORDINANCE TO PULL THAT BACK A LITTLE BIT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL FOR NOW. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS TAX RIGHT ITEM? OKAY. 
          THIS IS ONE MORE, IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THE WATER RATES UP HERE. 
          YES. 
          AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH WATER RATES AND BEING, WILL WE BE TALKING ABOUT THAT LATER, OR IS THIS THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT? I, I'VE GOT SOME OF THAT IN THE, IN THE PROPOSED, UH, OR IN THE BUDGET, UH, PRESENTATION THAT FOLLOWS US. 
          I'LL, I, I WILL WAIT TILL TILL WE GET THERE THEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THANKS, STEVEN. 
          THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UH, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. 
          SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          SORRY. 
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NO MOTION. 
          OH, NO, IT'S NO ACTION. 
          SORRY. 
          YEP. 
          NO, NO, NO ACTION ON THIS ONE. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          UH, ITEM THREE B, 
          [b. Hold a public hearing, present, and discuss the Town of Addison's Annual Budget for the fiscal year commencing October 1, 2026 and ending September 30, 2027.]
HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT AND DISCUSS THE TOWN OF ADDISON'S ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR COMMENCING OCTOBER 1ST, 2026, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027. 
          STEPHEN. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          STEPHEN GLITMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. 
          AND THIS IS OUR, UH, AGAIN, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON OUR BUDGET. 
          UM, SO WE, UH, WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU RECEIVED THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, JULY 31ST, AND THEN WE HAD OUR, UH, WORKSHOP IN EARLY AUGUST, AND SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT CAME FROM THAT WORKSHOP AND SOME OF THE SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS, UH, HERE'S A LIST OF ALL OF THOSE. 
          SO, UH, THERE WAS SOME UPDATES TO THE NONPROFIT FUNDING, UH, FROM THE GENERAL FUND BASED ON COUNCIL DIRECTION. 
          UH, THERE WAS A STREET MAINTENANCE WORKER POSITION THAT WAS SPLIT BETWEEN GENERAL FUND AND STORMWATER FUND. 
          THAT WAS MOVED A HUNDRED PERCENT TO THE STORMWATER FUND. 
          UH, THERE WAS A DECISION PACKAGE FOR, UH, UH, AN EVENT CALLED TASTE AROUND THE WORLD THAT WAS REMOVED, UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND, UH, THE TEAM TEXAS MEMBERSHIP, UH, WAS A, UH, INPUT AS A RECURRING ITEM WAS CHANGED TO ONE TIME BASED ON COUNCIL DIRECTION. 
          UH, ADDED THE WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL NONPROFIT FUNDING AT $25,000. 
          UH, AND THEN REMOVED, UH, COUNCIL CHAMBER WOOD PANEL EXTENSION PROJECT, UH, FROM THE SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND. 
          SO, RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION, UH, WENT OVER THESE, UH, IN DETAIL, AND THEY'RE ALSO IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IN DETAIL, SO I WON'T GO OVER ALL OF THEM. 
          BUT OVERALL, THESE ARE ITEMS THAT, UH, GENERATED SAVINGS OR ADDITIONAL, UH, REVENUE, UH, FOR THE TOWN THAT'S, THAT ARE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          UH, THE TOTAL OF THOSE, UH, COME OUT TO $502,847. 
          UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF ACTION ITEMS. UH, AS FAR AS, UH, THE COUNCIL. 
          SO ONE OF THESE, UH, THE IN-SOURCED HVAC MAINTENANCE, THAT'S A DECISION PACKAGE THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET, UH, THE CHANGING OF THE NEWSPAPER OF RECORD. 
          UH, WE WOULD'VE TO COME BACK AND BRING A RESOLUTION FORWARD TO COUNCIL TO CHANGE THAT, UH, TO SAVE SOME MONEY. 
          BUT THOSE ARE CURRENTLY INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          AND THEN GOING ON TO OUR GENERAL FUND. 
          UH, SO THERE ARE THREE DECISION PACKAGES THAT ARE IN THE GENERAL FUND, AS I MENTIONED, THE HVAC, UH, TECHNICIANS. 
          SO THIS IS BASICALLY, UH, BRINGING IN-HOUSE, UH, HVAC SERVICES, WHICH SAVES, UH, 123,000 COSTS, 94,000. 
          SO WE GOT A NET SAVINGS OF ALMOST $30,000, UH, FROM INSOURCING THAT THERE'S THE ADDITION OF A POLICE OFFICER POSITION, UH, AND THEN ASSISTANT BUILDING, BUILDING OFFICIAL POSITION, WHICH IS PARTIALLY OFFSET BY THE REDUCTION, UH, IN SOME, UH, BUILDING INSPECTION CONTRACTUAL SERVICES. 
          UH, SO THE NET TO THE GENERAL FUND, $171,883. 
          UH, LOOKING AT OUR FUND SUMMARY FOR THE GENERAL FUND, UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, REVENUES THAT EXCEED OUR EXPENDITURES BY JUST ABOUT $40,000. 
          UH, THE, THE CHANGES FROM THE PROPOSED BUDGET AS, AS I MENTIONED, WERE THE CHANGES IN THE NPO FUNDING FROM THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, AND THEN THE MOVEMENT OF THAT STREET MAINTENANCE WORKER FULLY TO THE, UH, STORMWATER FUND. 
          SO WE REMAIN IN A STRONG POSITION. 
          UH, 39% OF OUR OPERATING EXPENDITURES, UH, REMAIN IN FUND BALANCE. 
          AND WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR OVERALL GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES BY TYPE, THIS IS WHERE, UH, OUR POLICE OFFICERS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS, OUR FOLKS THAT WORK IN THE PARKS, AND, UH, A LOT OF OUR, UH, EXPENDITURE IS RELATED TO, TO PERSONNEL SERVICES. 
          SO, TWO THIRDS OF THAT FUND IS FROM, IS, UH, PERSONNEL, UH, SUPPLIES MAKE UP, 3% MAINTENANCE IS 8% CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, AND A LOT OF THAT IS GONNA BE UTILITIES. 
          AND, UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS MAKE UP 17%. 
          UH, CAPITAL REPLACEMENT, UH, MAKES UP 5%. 
          AND THEN CAPITAL OUTLAY IS 1% OF THE GENERAL FUND, UH, LOOKING AT GENERAL FUND REVENUE. 
          SO I WANTED TO PRO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORICAL PERFORMANCE OF, OF A REVENUE SOURCE. 
          UM, SO THE, THE BLUE, UH, UH, LINES IN, IN THIS CHART, OR THE BLUE BARS IN THIS CHART, ARE THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, UH, THE ORANGE BARS OR THE ACTUAL FOR, UH, THROUGH 20 25, 20 26 IS OUR ESTIMATE IN THE BUDGET. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A ESTIMATE YET FOR 2027, BUT, UM, YOU CAN SEE OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, THE, UH, GENERAL FUND HAS EXCEEDED, UH, ACTUALLY WHAT WE'VE BUDGETED AS FAR AS REVENUE GOES. 
          UH, ON AVERAGE ABOUT 7%. 
          SO WE'VE EXCEEDED OUR REVENUE BUDGET BY ABOUT 7%. 
          SALES TAX IS THE MOST, UH, MOST, UH, MOST OF THAT HAS COME. 
          UH, THAT OVER PERFORMANCE HAS COME FROM SALES TAX. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE WORST YEAR THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD WAS 2020 WHEN, UH, COVID HIT AND EVERYTHING SHUT DOWN. 
          WE STILL EXCEEDED OUR REVENUE BUDGET, WHICH WAS BUDGETED BEFORE COVID WAS EVEN A THING, UH, BY ABOUT 2%. 
          UM, SO OVERALL, UM, 
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REVENUE HAS PERFORMED VERY WELL COMPARED TO WHAT WE'VE BUDGETED. 
          UH, AGAIN, MOST OF THAT IS SALES TAX. 
          WE'RE STILL PERFORMING THIS YEAR, UH, STRONGLY, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH SALES TAX. 
          I WOULD ESTIMATE THAT, UH, THE ORANGE BAR FOR 2026 WILL EXCEED WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE, UH, BECAUSE SALES TAXES PERFORM SO WELL. 
          AND HOPEFULLY THAT CONTINUES. 
          UM, AND THEN JUST THE BUDGET, UH, AS WE GO INTO THE, THE BLUE BAR FOR 2027, UH, WE'VE CONSERVATIVELY BUDGETED, UH, SALES TAX, UH, BUT WE HAVE MOVED THAT UP, UH, PRETTY CONSISTENTLY OVER THE YEARS. 
          WE'VE GOT ABOUT A THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE, UH, IN THE BUDGET OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR BUDGET, AND GOING INTO OUR ENTERPRISE FUND. 
          SO THESE ARE GONNA BE OUR AIRPORT FUND, UH, THE STORMWATER FUND AND THE UTILITY FUND. 
          UH, SO THERE ARE FOUR RECURRING DECISION PACKAGES WITHIN ENTERPRISE FUNDS. 
          THREE OF THEM, UH, ARE FROM THE AIRPORT. 
          UH, THERE'S AN AIRPORT GIS ANALYST THAT'S CURRENTLY CONTRACTED. 
          UH, SO THIS WOULD BE BRINGING IT IN-HOUSE, UH, AT A NET SAVINGS OF ABOUT $35,000 PER YEAR. 
          UH, THERE'S AN AIRPORT PROJECT MANAGER, WHICH WOULD PARTIALLY BE OFFSET BY SOME, UH, RECURRING SAVINGS AND CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, OUTSOURCED ENGINEERING AND, UH, PLANNING SERVICES. 
          SO THAT WOULD BRING THE NET COST TO ABOUT 98,000 2 61. 
          UH, THERE'S ONE AIRPORT MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. 
          AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED, THAT STORMWATER FUND IS INCLUDED, UH, THAT STREET MAINTENANCE WORKER POSITION, UH, WITHIN THAT FUND. 
          UH, SO THE NET COST OF THOSE FOUR POSITIONS WITHIN THOSE TWO FUNDS IS ABOUT $206,000. 
          UH, THEN WE HAVE SEVERAL, UH, ONE TIME, UH, REQUESTS. 
          UH, THE AIRPORT HAS, UH, RUNWAY RUBBER REMOVAL, UH, PROJECT, A PAVEMENT CRACK REPAIR, A PATIO, T HANGAR, EXTERIOR PAINT AND AIRSIDE SIGNAGE REPLACEMENT, UH, PLANNED. 
          AND THEN THE UTILITY FUND, UH, HAS A WASTEWATER CAPACITY MANAGEMENT, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. 
          UH, AND THEN A KELWAY FACILITY ENGINEERING AND DESIGN, UH, PROJECT. 
          NOW 25,000 OF THAT 250,000 FOR THAT IS, UH, FUNDED, UH, FOR ANIMAL SERVICES FROM THE SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND. 
          AND THEN, UH, SOME OUTSOURCED GIS ANALYST, UH, SERVICES SPLIT BETWEEN UTILITY AND STORM WATER. 
          UH, SO THE TOTAL OF THOSE, UH, ONE-TIME PROJECTS, THERE ARE $900,000 BETWEEN THOSE THREE FUNDS. 
          UH, SO, AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT, AND I THINK RANDY, THIS IS WHAT YOU WERE, YOU WERE REFERENCING EARLIER. 
          UH, WE, UH, TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CHANGES TO OUR RATE STRUCTURE, UH, BACK ON JUNE 23RD. 
          UH, GOT SOME DIRECTION THAT IT, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE WANTED TO DO, BUT WE WANTED TO DO IT ON A MORE PHASED APPROACH. 
          UM, SO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, WHAT'S IN THE, WHAT'S IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. 
          UH, THERE IS A PROPOSED, UH, PHASED APPROACH WITHIN THE BUDGET, UH, WHICH WOULD DRAW DOWN OUR FUND BALANCE. 
          WE'RE ABLE TO STILL DO THIS, UH, MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO OUR CURRENT WATER AND SEWER CUSTOMERS, UM, BRING DOWN THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BY 1 CENT, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL DOING, UH, THE, UH, FRANCHISE FEE TO THE GENERAL FUND, WE'RE STILL, UH, REPAYING UTILITY DEBT WITH, UH, THE UTILITY RATES AND THEN EVALUATING, UH, WHAT WE, WHERE WE'RE AT, UH, DURING NEXT BUDGET PROCESS. 
          AND IF WE CAN DO THE DRAW DOWN AGAIN BECAUSE OUR REVENUE HAS PERFORMED SO WELL, UH, IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AND WE WON'T HAVE TO INCREASE RATES. 
          IF WE NEED TO INCREASE RATES, WE CAN EVALUATE IT AS WE GET DOWN, UH, TO 2028. 
          SO THIS IS WHAT, UH, THOSE COMMERCIAL RATES AND SINGLE FAMILY RATES WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          UH, SO OVERALL YOU CAN SEE IT GOES FROM, UH, UH, WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS BASED ON THE BUSINESS TYPE. 
          THIS IS STRICTLY BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE METER AND NOT THE BUSINESS TYPE. 
          UH, OUR FOLKS THAT HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN IT, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, I SHOWED, UH, AVERAGE USAGE OF SOME OF THESE, UH, LARGER ACCOUNTS. 
          AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IT ISN'T SUCH AS LARGE OF AN IMPACT BECAUSE SOME OF THESE LARGE METER SIZES ARE USING SO MUCH WATER. 
          UH, WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, EIGHT INCH CUSTOMERS ARE USING BETWEEN TWO AND 3 MILLION GALLONS A MONTH. 
          SO JUST THAT, THAT SMALL CHANGE IN, UH, IN THE BASE CHARGE DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT THEIR RATE AS MUCH AS, AS YOU MAY THINK, UH, THE TWO INCH CUSTOMERS, WE DID REDUCE THE VOLUME THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE BILL, UH, BY 7,000 GALLONS. 
          SO THOSE FOLKS THAT THEIR CURRENT MINIMUM BILL IS $428 PER MONTH, THIS IS $451 PER MONTH. 
          SO THOSE FOLKS THAT AREN'T USING $30,000, 30,000 GALLONS PER MONTH AREN'T GONNA SEE THAT BIG OF AN IMPACT IN THEIR BILL. 
          UM, SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT AS FAR AS, UH, THAT RATE, UH, TABLE. 
          AND ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, THAT'S, DID YOU WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE RATES OR HOW IT AFFECTS THE PROPERTY TAXES? DO WE HAVE, IS THERE A BREAKDOWN SOMEWHERE OF HOW MANY OF EACH OF 
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THESE SIZE METERS THAT WE HAVE, SO WE CAN KIND OF TELL HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE AFFECTED AT THE EIGHT INCH OR TWO INCH, OR WE, WE CAN KIND OF TELL HOW MANY BUSINESSES WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THAT? YEAH. 
          UH, I DID HAVE THIS IN THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION. 
          I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE ONLY ONE EIGHT INCH COMMERCIAL METER, RIGHT? UH, WE HAVE I THINK 16 SIX INCH METERS. 
          UH, MOST OF THOSE ARE GONNA BE TWO INCH METERS. 
          I THINK RESTAURANTS THAT, THAT, MOST RESTAURANTS ARE TWO, TWO TO FOUR, NOT NECESSARILY IF THERE'S A CLUSTER OF RESTAURANTS, THERE MAY BE A TWO INCH METER, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL RESTAURANT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AFFECTING A WHOLE SLEW OF, OF PLACES HERE. 
          OVERALL, THIS AFFECTS, I THINK AROUND, UM, I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK. 
          I THINK THAT AROUND FIVE TO 600 ACCOUNTS OF OUR ALMOST 4,000 ACCOUNTS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT THE IS IS OUR ONE PENNY REDUCTION COMING FROM INCREASING THIS FEE, ESSENTIALLY. 
          YES. 
          SO HAD WE NOT EASED IT IN, IF WE'D HAVE JUST WENT WHERE WE WANTED TO BE AT THE BEGINNING, WE COULD HAVE, WE CAN REDUCE THE, THE PROPERTY TAX EVEN FARTHER. 
          SO WE, WE, WE WENT AHEAD AND DID THE FULL TRANS, WE'RE DOING BOTH OF THOSE THINGS, THE FRANCHISE FEE AND THE TRANSFER AT THE FULL AMOUNT. 
          UH, WHAT I'LL SHOW YOU IN A SUBSEQUENT SLIDE IS WE'RE DRAWING DOWN SOME FUND BALANCE IN THE UTILITY FUND BECAUSE IT HAS EXCESS FUNDS. 
          UH, SO BASICALLY BY PHASING IT IN, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A ONE YEAR DRAW DOWN, AND THEN NEXT YEAR WE COULD COME BACK AND SECOND, BUT WE'RE GETTING THE FULL BENEFIT OF, OF WHERE WE WANT TO BE NOW. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          BECAUSE WE HAD EXCESS FUNDS. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THAT'S GREAT THAT, I THINK THAT'S GREAT FOR BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE BUSINESSES NOT BEING HIT IMMEDIATELY, BUT THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE GETTING SOME REDUCTION ON THAT. 
          I SAW TWO THINGS ON SLIDE NUMBER 12. 
          THIS GI S ANALYST, WHAT IS THAT? UH, WHAT IS IT? GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEM. 
          SO, UM, I COULD HAVE HAMID COME UP IF HE WANTS, BUT IT'S, UM, I THINK YOU, I THINK YOU KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT THAT I PROBABLY DO. 
          BASICALLY EVERYTHING IN THE CITY IS MAPPED ALL OF OUR UTILITIES, EVERYTHING AT THE AIRPORT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE'S GOING OUT AND DOING WORK, BASICALLY, THEY KNOW WHAT'S UNDER THE GROUND, THEY KNOW WHERE EVERYTHING IS. 
          WE HAVE EVERYTHING, ALL OF OUR ASSETS ARE IN OUR GIS SYSTEM. 
          SO IT IS A VERY HEAVILY INVOLVED SYSTEM. 
          WE HAVE OVER, I THINK, 70,000 ASSETS MAPPED, YOU KNOW, UH, MILES, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF MILES OF ROADS AND SEWER LINES AND WATER LINES AND, AND, UM, EVERYTHING IS IS IN THIS, UH, THIS MAP. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BASICALLY THERE'S LAYERS. 
          I JUST SAW TWO DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS FOR THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          ARE WE STILL USING, SO WE'RE HIRING ONE, ONE IS SOMETIME, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND THEN ARE WE STILL U UTILIZING A OUTSIDE SOURCED ONE AS WELL? SO THE AIRPORT CURRENTLY HAS AN OUTSOURCED ONE THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE REPLACED WITH A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE. 
          THE, UH, UTILITY AND STORMWATER FUND CURRENTLY, UH, HAVE SOME THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S BEING DONE BY CURRENT STAFF, BUT THEY NEED, THEY NEED SOME OUTSOURCED. 
          SO IT'S A ONE-TIME BASIS TO BRING IN AN OUTSOURCED PARTY TO GET SOME OF THEIR STUFF UPDATED. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. 
          WE'RE FINDING OUT WHERE ALL THIS STUFF IS UNDERGROUND. 
          I THINK WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF INSTANCES WHERE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS UNDER THE GROUND AND WE PAID MONEY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THERE. 
          SO, UM, PROBABLY MONEY WELL SPENT THERE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME, MARTIN. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, STEVEN, ON PAGE 14, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. 
          IS THIS THE, UH, THE NEW PROPOSED RATE? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND I KNOW WHEN WE, WE HAD OUR MEETINGS ON THAT SATURDAY, THE BIG, THE BIG BUDGET MEETING, UM, WE WERE GONNA LOOK AT THIS CLOSER. 
          AND SO MY ASK IS, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT, UM, GOING INTO NEXT MEETING, CAN WE KIND OF SEE SOMETHING THAT WOULD SHOW, HEY, HERE'S THE CURRENT RATE, HERE'S THIS RATE, AND THEN YOU HAD SOME OTHER, UH, I GUESS ANOTHER HALF OF THE INCREASE FOR MAYBE NEXT YEAR? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? YEAH, I'VE GOT THE, THE ORIGINAL ONE THAT I SHOWED ON JUNE 23RD, I HAD THIS EXACT SAME TABLE. 
          UM, SO DOES IT, DO YOU MEAN THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT, HOW THIS COMPARES TO THAT TABLE? YEAH, WELL, THREE THINGS, UM, WHERE WE'RE AT, WHERE WE ARE NOW MM-HMM . 
          OUR CURRENT RATES, AND THEN, AND THEN THIS, THIS IS, I'M GONNA CALL IT PHASE ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN WHAT IS, WHAT ARE THE RATES FOR PHASE TWO MM-HMM . 
          UM, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TELLING ME, I, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. 
          SURE. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'D BE HELPFUL FOR, FOR ALL OF US. 
          OKAY. 
          MAYBE DECISION IF WE WANNA MAKE A CHANGE. 
          UM, DO, DO WE WANT TO JUST DO ONE PHASE OR DO WE WANNA DO RATE INCREASE BACK TO BACK YEARS? UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KIND OF SEE, 
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SEE WHAT THIS, WHAT THESE RATES LOOK LIKE FOR THE, YOU KNOW, GET A FEEL FOR WHAT THESE RATES LOOK LIKE FOR THE CUSTOMER. 
          UM, IT'D BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, I, I, AND I CAN ADD WHAT, WHAT OUR CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE IS, BUT IT'S ALSO, THIS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STYLE OF RATE STRUCTURE, UH, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE, BASICALLY IT'S BY BUSINESS TYPE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IT'S SMALL METER AND LARGE METER, AND ANYTHING OVER TWO INCHES IS LONG. 
          AND I, I TRUST YOU. 
          SO IF, HOWEVER, YOU, YOU OKAY HERE TO, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M MORE FIXATED. 
          I THINK WE'RE ALL MORE FIXATED ON PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO RATES. 
          SO HOWEVER, WHICH WHATEVER YOU THINK ON THE CURRENT RATE, UH, COMPARED TO THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST KIND OF, I, I'D LOVE TO GET A BETTER FEEL. 
          I THINK WE ALL WANTED TO GET A BETTER FEEL FOR THIS ON THAT SATURDAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND I DON'T THINK, I CAN'T WITHOUT, WITHOUT SEEING, SEEING THE, YOU KNOW, BOTH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I THINK, UH, IS ONE, TWO PROBABLY, AND I'LL GO TO THE THIS SLIDE, UM, THIS MAY HELP PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT. 
          UH, SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, WHEN WE DID THIS ON JUNE 23RD, UM, AND WE CAME BACK AND WE REVISITED, YOU KNOW, DOING A PHASED APPROACH, UH, WELL OUR OVERALL FUND BALANCE OR WORKING CAPITAL IN, IN THE UTILITY FUND, WAS, WAS THAT A LEVEL THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I FELT COMFORTABLE RECOMMENDING THAT DOING A ONE-TIME DRAWDOWN SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO INCREASE THE RATES SO MUCH. 
          THAT WAS KIND OF HOW WE GOT THERE. 
          SO, UM, SO ONE, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND JUST INCREASING THE RATES IF WE HA IF WE WANTED TO USE THIS, THIS FUND BALANCE THAT WE HAVE, UH, TO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, SUBSIDIZE IT FOR ONE YEAR BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE MONEY SITTING THERE, UM, FOR THAT. 
          SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL FUND, UH, WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, OUR REVENUES ARE EXCEEDING OUR OPERATING EXPENSE, BUT WE DO HAVE THAT DRAW DOWN TO DEBT SERVICE OF 916,000. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY THE DIFFERENCE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE FOUND BY, THAT'S WHAT WE REDUCED THE RATES BY TO GET 'EM TO WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSED NOW IS ESSENTIALLY A $960,000. 
          YOU REALLY GRABBED ALL OF OUR, EVERY ONE OF OUR ATTENTION WHEN YOU SAID, HEY, IF WE DID IT IN ONE PHASE, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE A, A, A DECREASE IN THE TAX RATE OF ANOTHER PENNY. 
          AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO CALCULATE ALL, ALL OF THOSE, ALL OF THOSE MOVING PIECES. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S WHERE YOU REALLY GOT MY ATTENTION. 
          WELL, WE INCORPORATED WHAT WOULD IN WHAT WOULD ALL BE INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE TAX RATE DECREASE. 
          SO THAT'S ALL INCORPORATED IN THE EXISTING PROPOSED RATE STRUCTURE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WHAT I'M ASKING IS, IF YOU INCORPORATED PHASE TWO RATE INCREASE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? YEAH, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD RECOVER THE 916,000 DELTA THAT WE HAVE IN THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET. 
          IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T BE FOR, FOR PROPERTY TAX RATE REDUCTION IN THE CURRENT YEAR. 
          DOES THAT, DOES THAT HELP? UM, IT, I I UNDERSTOOD IT. 
          IT, IT, IT WAS A DRIVER FOR LOWERING OUR, OUR, OUR TAX RATE MM-HMM . 
          UM, A PENNY CORRECT. 
          GIG AMOUNT. 
          UM, AND, AND WE'RE ONLY INCREASING, UH, HALF, WE'RE CONSIDERING A HALF INCREASE. 
          SO IF WE, IF WE DID EVERYTHING WE'RE PROPOSING AND THEN WE, WE SAID, HEY, PHASE, RATHER THAN DO IT IN TWO PHASES, WE JUST DO IT, DO IT ONE RATE INCREASE AND, AND, AND, AND STILL DO THE REDUCTION. 
          WHY WOULD THAT NOT LOWER THE TA? WHY WOULD NOT, WHY WOULD THAT NOT HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO LOWER THE TAX RATE? YEAH, BECAUSE SEE, WE'RE DRAWING DOWN OUR FUND BALANCE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE DOING IT DOING THE INCREASES ACROSS MULTIPLE YEARS. 
          SO IF WE DID IT ALL AT ONCE, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE TAX RATE ADDITIONALLY BECAUSE WE WOULD NEED THAT MONEY WITHIN THIS FUND. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUE, IF WE GENERATED, BASICALLY WE'VE GOT A $916,000 REDUCTION IN THIS FUND IN THE UTILITY FUND. 
          SO THAT SECOND PHASE WOULD BE TO RECOVER THAT 916,000. 
          AND BECAUSE WE HAVE EXCESS FUNDS WITHIN THIS FUND, WE'RE ABLE TO JUST DRAW IT DOWN AND PHASE, PHASE, THOSE RATE INCREASES OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          YEAH. 
          LET ME, LET ME, LET ME THINK ON THAT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU STEVEN. 
          TO THAT POINT, WHEN YOU WERE PREPARING THAT NEXT PRESENTATION, YOU HAD DONE A BEAUTIFUL JISH ON COMPARATOR CITIES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TOO, IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE IN YOUR PRESENTATION, JUST BECAUSE FOR THOSE AT HOME WATCHING, IT'LL SHOW WHERE WE STOOD, WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHERE WE WANT TO GET TO. 
          YEAH, THAT'S MY QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AS FAR AS, YOU MEAN FROM WHAT, 'CAUSE I DID SHOW THOSE AT THE WORKSHOP, BUT INCLUDING WHAT PHASE TWO WOULD LOOK LIKE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE EXACTLY, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          IT, IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE WHEN YOU DID THE COMPARATOR CITIES WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, DARREN. 
          SO BACK ON SLIDE, UM, 14, THAT'S GONNA BE MY QUESTION. 
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UM, SO IS THIS THE FINAL RATE THAT THEY'LL HAVE OR IS THIS, THIS IS, SO THERE IS A VOLUME CHARGE TOO, SO, WELL LET ME, LET ME JUST CLARIFY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S A RATE INCREASE AND WE'RE DOING HALF THIS YEAR AND HALF NEXT YEAR. 
          AND WE'RE REALIZING THE REVENUE THIS YEAR BY, BECAUSE WE'RE SUPPLEMENTING THAT HALF INCREASE WITH HALF FROM THE FUND. 
          GOT IT. 
          SO WE SEE THAT FULLY. 
          UM, IS, DO THESE RATES REPRESENT, UH, THE FULL INCREASE, CORRECT? NO, THESE, THESE RATES REPRESENT HALF INCREASE, HALF OF THE INCREASE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEY'LL BE, BE INCREASED AGAIN NEXT YEAR. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE FULL AMOUNT THAT THIS IS GENERATING, I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO IT ON SLIDE 15, IS THE NINE 16 DRAWDOWN, IS THAT THE TOTAL, THAT'S ALL OF THAT DRAWDOWN IS THE, THE, THE SECOND PHASE WOULD COVER THE 916,000. 
          SO THE INCREASE, THE FULL INCREASE IS 906. 
          THAT'S NOT TRUE. 
          IS $916,000 MORE. 
          OKAY, WELL, HANG ON, LET ME JUST MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO GOING FROM 0% INCREASE TO THE FULL INCREASE THAT WE'RE GOING TO OVER TWO YEARS, HOW MUCH REVENUE DOES THAT GENERATE PER YEAR? MILLION AT THE END OF TWO YEARS MILLION EIGHT. 
          UH, IS IT, IS IT NINE 16 TIMES TWO? NO, WELL, IT'S CLOSE. 
          UH, THERE'S, IF YOU SEE THE FRANCHISE FEE THAT'S LISTED THERE, 945,000, UH, AND THE 916,000, THOSE ARE THE TWO COMPONENTS THAT MAKE UP THE RATE INCREASES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, SO ABOUT ONE, A LITTLE OVER 1.8 MILLION, ONE 1,857,000. 
          IT, BUT JUST ON THE, UH, WATER INCREASE, HOW MUCH REVENUE DOES THAT GENERATE? THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE 1 MILLION. 
          YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT. 
          1,000,008, 800,000. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S THE NINE 16 TIMES TWO, BECAUSE THAT AMOUNT THAT WE'RE DRAWING DOWN IS, IS AT SUPPLEMENTING HALF OF THAT ESSENTIALLY. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I'VE GOT OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT THESE WERE ON SPECIFICALLY ON THIS TOPIC, SO I'LL GO BACK AND AFTER YOU FINISH, CHRIS, I HATE TO HARP ON THE TOPIC, BUT I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR. 
          SO NEXT YEAR WHEN WE FULLY IMPLEMENT THE, UH, INCREASES, WE'RE GONNA PAY THE NINE 16 BACK INTO THE U UTILITY FUND. 
          WE, WE WOULDN'T PAY IT BACK, BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANOTHER 916,000 DRAW DOWN, DRAW DOWN IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, I WAS THINKING, AND HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT IF WE INCREASE PRICING, PEOPLE MIGHT CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR AND, AND SOMEHOW FIND WAYS TO USE LESS WATER. 
          HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? UH, I MEAN, YOU SEE THAT WITH ANY, ANY NEWER DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE MORE EFFICIENT FIXTURES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          SO, UM, SO WE, WE DO THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          WE HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE, ESPECIALLY A LOT OF THIS COMES FROM IRRIGATION AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT DOESN'T PARTICULARLY PARTICULARLY CHANGE ONE BECAUSE I THINK IF, IF YOU LET ALL OF YOUR LANDSCAPING DIE AND THAT KIND OF THING, YOU, YOU GET, YOU KNOW, TALK TO. 
          THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING IS SOMEONE JUST SAYS, WELL, I DON'T WANNA SPEND THE MONEY. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO WATER OR MAINTAIN MY LANDSCAPING. 
          AND THAT CREATES OTHER ISSUES FOR US. 
          BUT, UM, I JUST THOUGHT I'D ASK AND SEE IF YOU HAD THOUGHT ABOUT, OR YEAH, I SPECIFIC USERS THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY OR MAY NOT CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOR. 
          I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, THE MAJOR USERS THAT THE OVERALL JUST INCREASE IN THE BASE CHARGE IS NOT ENOUGH. 
          WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE AN EIGHT INCH CUSTOMER THAT'S THEIR MONTHLY BILL'S, $30,000, THEIR BASE CHARGE GOING UP $300 ON A $30,000 MONTHLY BILL IS NOT GONNA PROBABLY MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THEM. 
          UM, SO I WOULD PROBABLY SAY IT'S THE SAME THING WITH A LOT OF THOSE LARGER, LARGER CUSTOMERS. 
          THE FOLKS THAT, OR THE CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE TWO INCH METERS AREN'T SEEING A LARGE INCREASE IN THEIR BASE CHARGE. 
          UM, SO THEY'RE BASICALLY SEEING A REGULAR INCREASE THAT WE WOULD SEE ON A NORMAL YEAR. 
          AS FAR AS THEIR BASE CHARGE, IT'S REALLY THE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE THREE INCH, FOUR INCH, SIX INCH, AND EIGHT INCH, UH, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SEEING LARGER INCREASES ON THE BASE CHARGE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO THE ONES THAT GET 20, $30,000 MONTHLY BILLS. 
          SO A TWO TO $300 INCREASE IN THEIR BASE CHARGE PER MONTH ISN'T GONNA PROBABLY MOVE THE NEEDLE. 
          UM, MUCH ON THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU RANDY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ONE QUICK QUESTION. 
          MY MEMORY IS THAT WE WERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CHART FOR CHARGES. 
          WE WERE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE ON THIS, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE METER, UM, CLOSE TO THE BOTTOM, WE ARE CLOSE TO, VERY CLOSE TO THE BOTTOM IN ALL RATE CLASSES. 
          AND WE'RE STILL, I THINK WITH THIS UPDATED STRUCTURE, I THINK WE'RE FOURTH OUT OF, 
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OUT OF 14. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          AND THAT, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY MAIN QUESTION. 
          WHERE DOES THAT PUT US? AND WHEN YOU SAY FOURTH OR FOURTH FROM THE TOP, FOURTH FROM THE BOTTOM, THE THE FOURTH CHEAPEST, FOURTH LESS EXPENSIVE. 
          SO WE, WE TRULY STILL HAVE SOME ROOM TO GET BACK UP SHOULD WE WANT TO IN THE YEARS COMING AND, AND STILL BE COMPETITIVE, NOT, NOT OVERCHARGING PARTICULARLY IF WE CAN LOWER THE PROPERTY TAXES ALONG WITH THIS. 
          YOU EITHER, YOU'RE EITHER PAYING ON PROPERTY TAXES OR WATER. 
          SO THANKS. 
          SO, SO WE'RE STILL VERY COMPETITIVE IN THIS. 
          WE, WE ARE, AND WE'RE CLOSER TO WHERE WE ARE ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. 
          SO THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE WE'RE I THINK FOURTH OR FIFTH, UH, LOWEST. 
          UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE RANGE OF RESIDENTIAL, SO THERE IS SOME, SOME ROOM TO GO UP AND, AND I THINK WHEN WE GET TO THIS FULLY IMPLEMENTED, WE'LL BASICALLY, 'CAUSE YOU WANT, YOU DON'T, YOU WANT YOUR WHOLE CUSTOMER BASE TO HAVE SIMILAR BILLING EXPERIENCES. 
          I'D MUCH RATHER HAVE MY PROPERTY TAXES LOWERED AND, AND I CAN CHOOSE HOW MUCH WATER I WANT TO USE, WON'T LET MY GRASS DIE AND TREES DIE, BUT IT MAY GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU KNOW, I'LL ACTUALLY USE THAT TO JUST MAKE ONE POINT FOR MAYBE SOMEBODY WATCHING WHO DIDN'T SEE THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION. 
          NOT ONLY WERE OUR COMMERCIAL RATES DRASTICALLY LOWER THAN EVERYONE ELSE, BUT WE WERE ONE OF THE FEW CITIES THAT DIDN'T ALREADY DO A FRANCHISE FEE. 
          SO THIS ISN'T A NOVEL CONCEPT AND STILL ACTUALLY A LOT OF, SOME CITIES ARE STILL EVEN MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH THEIR TRANSFERS FROM THE UTILITY FUNDS TO GENERAL FUNDS. 
          SO, UM, SOME CONTEXT TO WHY WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SO GOING ON TO THE AIRPORT FUND. 
          SO, UH, AIRPORT FUND REMAINS IN A STRONG POSITION. 
          WE'VE GOT, UH, 8,248,000 IN OPERATING REVENUE, OPERATING EXPENSE, 8,137,000. 
          UH, I WENT OVER THEIR ONE-TIME DECISION PACKAGES. 
          UH, THEY'VE ALSO GOT SOME CASH FUNDED CAPITAL PROJECTS, UH, INCLUDED IN THEIR BUDGET. 
          UH, SO OVERALL THEY STILL HAVE ABOUT, UH, ALMOST 94% OF THEIR, UH, OPERATING, UH, RESERVES. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT OUR STORMWATER FUND. 
          SO WE DO HAVE SOME, SOME DRAWDOWN OF OUR WORKING CAPITAL HERE. 
          WE'VE GOT, WE'RE STARTING THE YEAR WITH ABOUT 8.2 MILLION. 
          UH, THIS FUND HAS, HAS HAD A LOT OF, UH, CASH RESERVES IN IT. 
          UM, SO OPERATING REVENUES ARE BASICALLY EQUAL TO OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          WE DO HAVE SOME ONE-TIME DECISION PACKAGES, SOME CASH FUNDED CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          AND, UH, WE DO FUND SOME OF OUR DEBT SERVICE, UH, WITH THIS, UH, FUND. 
          SO IT BRINGS US DOWN TO ABOUT 219% OF OUR, UH, UH, OPERATING, UH, RESERVES THERE. 
          UH, STILL ABOUT $6.5 MILLION. 
          AND THEN WE'VE GOT OUR HOTEL FUND. 
          SO THERE ARE, UH, ONE, UH, RECURRING DECISION PACKAGES. 
          AND THEN FOUR, UH, UH, ONE-TIME DECISION PACKAGES INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT THE, UH, SOME IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH THE ANNUAL TREE AND PARK LIGHTING, UH, EVENT, UH, WITH A PROPOSED REVENUE OF 30,000, OFFSETTING A COST OF 250,000, SO A NET COST OF ABOUT 220,000. 
          THEN WE HAVE, UH, FOUR, UH, ONE-TIME, UH, PROJECTS OVER AT THE THEATER CENTER, UH, TOTAL $215,000 INCLUDING STUDIO THEATER SOUND CONTROL BOOTH ON THE SECOND FLOOR, UH, DRESSING ROOMS FOR THE STUDIO THEATER, UH, ACOUSTIC PANELS, AND THEN BOX OFFICE EXTERIOR UPGRADES. 
          AND THEN THIS IS OUR HOTEL FUND SUMMARY, UH, OVERALL REVENUE, UH, SLIGHTLY EXCEEDING EXPENDITURES, UH, ON THE OPERATING SIDE, UH, WE ARE FUNDING THE, UH, WAYFINDING SIGNAGE CAPITAL PROJECT, UH, OUT OF THIS. 
          SO THAT'S THE 804,000 IN CAPITAL, UH, PROJECTS. 
          AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE ONE-TIME DECISION PACKAGES THAT I JUST WENT OVER AND WE STILL GOT 52.5%, UH, ENDING FUND BALANCE, UH, FOR THE HOTEL FUND. 
          AND THEN HERE'S OUR STAFFING SUMMARY. 
          SO I DID GO OVER EACH OF, UH, THE POSITIONS. 
          SEVERAL HAVE OFFSETTING, UH, EXPENDITURE SAVINGS. 
          UM, SO OVERALL 333.6 FTES, UH, WITHIN THE TOTAL BUDGET. 
          AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME ONE-TIME PROJECTS, UH, DECISION PACKAGES FROM OTHER FUNDS. 
          UH, THE, THIS IS THE SELF-FUNDED, UH, PROJECTS FUNDS. 
          SO CONTINUATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY GRANT. 
          UH, THERE ARE SOME ONE TIME COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ASSISTANT, ASSISTANT BUILDING OFFICIAL, WHICH IS A VEHICLE. 
          UH, SAME THING FOR OUR HVAC TECHNICIAN POSITION, WHICH IS A VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT. 
          OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS, UH, TRACTOR DRAWN AERIAL TRAINING, THE KNOX HOME BOX PROGRAM, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT, ONE TIME PURCHASE OF SOME AMMUNITION, THE ADDITION OF A PATROL VEHICLE TO THE FLEET, THE ONE TIME COSTS, WHICH ARE UNIFORMS AND EQUIPMENT AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, UH, FOR THE POLICE OFFICER POSITION. 
          AND, UH, SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO MIDWAY ROAD AND BELTWAY DRIVE, UH, PEDESTRIAN, UH, SOME, SOME PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ENHANCEMENTS, 
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UH, AT THAT INTERSECTION. 
          UH, SO TOTAL FOR THAT FUND, 718,200. 
          THEN WE'VE GOT TWO OTHER SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS THAT HAD, UH, UH, DECISION PACKAGES. 
          SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND, UH, THE TEAM TEXAS MEMBERSHIP, UH, ON A ONE-TIME BASIS, $43,000. 
          UH, THIS WILL BE THE SECOND YEAR OF THAT PROGRAM. 
          UH, THE CHILD SAFETY FUND FUNDING A DRONE PROGRAM, UH, WITH RECURRING COST OF 21 532 AND ONE TIME COST TO PURCHASE THE DRONES OF JUST OVER 27,000. 
          AND THEN WE'VE GOT OUR STREET SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND, UH, TWO PROJECTS HERE, REPAINTING OF BELLA AND PONTE BRIDGES, AND THEN BELTLINE AND DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY PEDESTRIAN ENHANCEMENTS, A TOTAL OF $225,000 FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS. AND THEN WE'VE GOT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. 
          UH, SO THIS IS, UH, JUST A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE TOTAL, UH, CIP PLAN. 
          SO OVERALL FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS 228, UH, $0.5 MILLION. 
          UH, ALMOST A QUARTER OF THAT IS THE NEW, UH, POLICE STATION THAT WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS BACK IN MAY. 
          UH, THE DETAILS OF ALL OF THE PROJECTS ARE IN THE, UH, MAKE UP A MAJORITY OF THE BUDGET, UH, THAT ARE IN THE, UH, PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          UM, THE NEW PRO THERE, THE ONLY REAL NEW PROJECT IS THAT, UH, POLICE, UH, BUILDING. 
          UH, THERE ARE PROJECTS RELATED TO THE ADDISON JUNCTION DEVELOPMENT, UM, BASED ON THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL. 
          AND THEN ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS HAVE BEEN EXISTING IN OUR CIP PROGRAM, UH, FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          AND THEN OUR BUDGET, UH, IS AVAILABLE, UH, ON OUR WEBPAGE. 
          UH, ANYBODY CAN, UH, VIEW THE PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUR, UH, ADS FOR THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING, UH, ON OUR PEG CHANNEL. 
          WE HAVE IT ON OUR HOMEPAGE, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, ON OUR, UH, REGULAR FINANCE WEBPAGE THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, STEVEN. 
          DAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          STEVEN, IF YOU CAN GO TO SLIDE 16, IT SORT OF TRIGGERED ME TO REMEMBER TO ASK THE QUESTION. 
          UM, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SERVICE FEES, FLOWAGE FEES FOR FUEL RENTAL INCOMES LOOKING AT THOSE INCREASES OR RELATIVELY FLAT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF RENTAL INCOME BECAUSE OF ABOUT A HUNDRED KI HAD ASKED THAT QUESTION BEFORE ABOUT FEES. 
          HAVE WE LOOKED AT ALL OF OUR TOWN'S FEES? NOT NECESSARILY CITATIONS WHEN YOU GET A SPEEDING TICKET, BUT THE FEES WE CHARGED, WE LOOKED AT CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE GONE UP, LABOR COSTS HAVE GONE UP. 
          AND I'D ASKED, HAD OUR FEES GONE UP AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE FEES HADN'T BEEN CHANGED IN 10 YEARS. 
          SO AS I'M LOOKING, THAT WAS THE TRIGGERING MOMENT WHERE I LOOKED AT THAT AND SAID, HAVE WE CHANGED OUR FEE STRUCTURE WITHIN CERTAIN CATEGORIES WITHIN CERTAIN DIVISIONS? WELL, CERTAINLY FOR THE AIRPORT. 
          UH, SO THEY HAVE RELATIVELY NEW FEES, ESPECIALLY FOR THE CUSTOM. 
          SO THOSE SERVICE FEES YOU SEE THERE ARE RELATIVELY NEW, UH, WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          UM, THE FUEL FLOWAGE FEES, I BELIEVE THAT'S, THAT'S A SET FEE. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE. 
          WE ARE HAVING, I THINK A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, SOME OF OUR BUILDING, UH, PERMIT AND INSPECTION FEES COMING UP, UH, WHICH WOULD AFFECT THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UM, THE OTHER FUNDS, STORM WATER UTILITY, THOSE ARE ONES WE LOOK AT EVERY YEAR BECAUSE THOSE FUNDS ARE TOTALLY BASED ON THOSE FEES. 
          UH, BUT IT IS SOMETHING, UM, THAT IS COMING UP AND, UM, IN SOME AREAS. 
          SO I THINK PROBABLY THE, THE COMMUNITY OR THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AREA IS PROBABLY THE NEXT BIG ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WILL, WILL THERE BE A MEASURABLE TABLE FOR US TO SEE WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE, WHAT LIKE WE JUST DID WITH THE WATER FUND? YEAH, SO THE, IT'LL BE THE SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, WE'LL HAVE A BIG WORKSHOP, WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE THE FIRST OF A COUPLE WHERE WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE FEES AND REALLY THE MAJORITY OF OUR FEES IN OUR GENERAL FUND, AND YET ALSO HISTORY WHERE WE ARE COMPARATOR CITIES. 
          AND SOME OF IT'LL BE THE SAME STORY YOU JUST SAW WITH COMMERCIAL. 
          SO WE'LL BE HAVING THAT FULL DISCUSSION. 
          I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS TO SAY IF WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THE FEE IN 10 YEARS, WHY NOT? AND WHY, WHY WOULDN'T WE? RIGHT. 
          EXACTLY WHAT THE, YEP. 
          AND THEN STEVEN, BACK ON SLIDE 10, SPEAKING OF THE GENERAL FUND, BECAUSE I WAS HOLDING MY QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          WELL, YOU LISTED IN THERE ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS WAS IT'S SEVEN AVERAGE 7% OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS FROM THE FORECAST TO THE ACTUALS. 
          ANY PINPOINTING YOU GUT? TELL ME WHY YOU THINK WE'RE DOING SO WELL YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          SO CONSISTENTLY IT, IT'S MOSTLY SALES TAX. 
          SO, UM, BECAUSE PROPERTY TAX, WE KNOW BASICALLY EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET, RIGHT? AND IT ALWAYS COMES IN BASICALLY, I MEAN WE'RE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, TENTHS OF A PERCENT ON WHAT, WHAT THE PROPERTY. 
          SO THAT SALES TAX COMING FROM COMMERCIAL NEW D NEW BUILDINGS. 
          YEAH, I KNOW, I KNOW WHEN YOU SEE THAT, YOU LOOK AT 2017 AND THERE'S A REALLY BIG INCREASE. 
          I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WE GET ONE-TIME PAYMENTS FROM SALES TAX, WHICH WE, IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS THAT WAS REPORTING TO SAY DALLAS, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN ADDISON AND THE COMPTROLLER SAYS HERE'S THEIR LAST 40 
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YEARS OF SALES TAX. 
          AND I THINK IN 2017 WE HAD A REALLY BIG ONE THAT I THINK WAS AROUND $1.2 MILLION OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO WHEN WE GET REALLY BIG ONES LIKE THAT, I THINK WE HAD ONE IN 2024 WHERE WE GOT TWO THAT CAME OUT TO ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          SO THAT'S JUST SALES TAX THAT'S COMING IN THAT WAS REALLOCATED TO OTHER CITIES. 
          UH, BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THIS YEAR IS THAT WE'RE JUST CONSISTENTLY, IT'S NOT ANY REALLOCATION OR ANYTHING. 
          UH, WE'RE JUST CONSISTENTLY MONTH OVER MONTH SAYING STRONG SALES TAX AND IT'S NOT A PARTICULAR AREA EITHER. 
          NOW WE HAVE BUMPED OUR BUDGETS UP ON SALES TAX PRETTY CONSISTENTLY, BUT, UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S MOSTLY, MOSTLY BEEN SALES TAX OVER A FEW YEARS. 
          OUR INVESTMENT REVENUE HAS ALSO DONE VERY WELL, ESPECIALLY SINCE I SAY, UH, 2022. 
          SO SINCE 2022, WE'VE DONE VERY WELL ON . 
          IT'S JUST FOR ME, LOOKING AT IT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, IT IS JUST A GREAT BAROMETER TO SEE THAT THE TOWN'S HEALTH IN THE GENERAL FUND AND THOSE, UH, BUDGETS ARE EXCEEDING. 
          IT'S HIGHLY ENCOURAGING WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 10 YEARS. 
          SURE. 
          THANKS STEVEN. 
          WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A SIMILAR SLIDE. 
          WELL, I HAD ONE, BUT IT'S NOT IN THIS PRESENTATION OF THE EXPENDITURES. 
          'CAUSE WE WANT THE OPPOSITE TO HAPPEN NOW. 
          IT'S NOT TO THIS EXTENT, BUT FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, OUR OPERATING OR OUR EXPENSES HAVE BEEN BELOW OUR ORIGINAL BUDGET. 
          UM, NOW THAT'S MUCH CLOSER, UH, THAN 7%. 
          IT'S CLOSER TO 1%, BUT, UH, WE'RE NOT EXCEEDING OUR BUDGET EITHER AS FAR AS THE EXPENSES GO. 
          THAT'S, IT'S AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU STEVEN. 
          CHRIS, HEY, STEVEN, ON PAGE 23, WHEN WE GET INTO THE SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS, SO THAT'S THE DECISION PA DECISION PACKAGE 718,000. 
          THERE'S, UM, IN OUR BUDGET BOOK, THERE'S 1,000,250 FOR THE ADDISON JUNCTION PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO THAT'LL COME OUT OF THAT AS WELL. 
          BUT I'M HAVING TROUBLE FOLLOWING WHERE, WHERE IS THAT, WAS THAT NOT ONE OF THE DECISION PACKAGES OR IS THAT IN THE, THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES? YEAH, IT'S, IT, IT IS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET. 
          SO IT IS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. 
          IT'S NOT A DECISION PACKAGE. 
          'CAUSE COUNCIL ALREADY APPROVED THE DESIGN CONTRACT FOR IT. 
          SO THE DECISIONS OR THE DECISIONS ALREADY BEEN MADE. 
          SO NOW IT'S JUST INCORPORATED IN THE BUDGET. 
          SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT A DECISION HAS NOT BEEN MADE. 
          SO THESE ARE THE ONLY NEW ITEMS WITHIN THAT FUND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO STILL FUNDED OUT OF THE SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS. 
          AND THEN HOW ARE WE GONNA HANDLE THAT? THAT MILLION TWO 50, THAT'S THE FUND INFRASTRUCTURE, ARE WE PAYING THAT BACK OR IS THAT JUST GONNA BE PART OF OUR INVESTMENT AT AS FAR AS WHEN YOU SAY PAYING IT BACK, IT'S GONNA BE, SO I, THERE'S THE TURS AND WE TALKED ABOUT ISSUING DEBT. 
          WILL IT, WILL THE SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND GET REFUNDED THAT MILLION TWO 50? OR IS, IS THAT GONNA BE YES, YES. 
          ANYTHING THAT'S COMING FROM, AND THERE'S SOME FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND AS WELL. 
          SO BOTH OF THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE REFUNDED FROM, UH, THE TIF ONCE IT STARTS TO EARN THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          PROPERTY TAX INCREMENT. 
          YES, THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED. 
          THANK YOU, RANDY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, 16, PLEASE. 
          AND I'M IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT DAN WAS BRINGING UP, BUT I WANNA DRILL DOWN INTO ONE SPECIFIC AND I, UH, THE FUEL FLOWAGE FEE, WHAT IS THAT? I KNOW WHAT THE FUEL FLOWAGE FEE IS. 
          WHAT IS THE NUMBER? WHAT, WHAT IS THE PER GALLON THAT WE CHARGE? OOH, I WOULD, I WOULD'VE TO CHECK THAT. 
          JAMIE MAY KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          JAMIE ROOSA, AIRPORT DIRECTOR. 
          UH, THE CURRENT FUEL, UH, FLOWAGE FEES ARE 14 CENTS PER GALLON FOR FBOS, 17 CENTS PER GALLON FOR SPECIAL, UH, FUEL PROVIDERS LIKE SKY HARBOR AND 22 CENTS A GALLON FOR, UH, UH, SOME OF THE SMALLER, UH, FUEL PROVIDERS THAT PROVIDE FUEL TO THEMSELVES. 
          UH, AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THRUST. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S 14, 17 AND 22 CENTS THAT, THAT IS INDEPENDENT IF THE GAS IS $5 A GALLON OR $8 AND 50 CENTS A GALLON. 
          YES, SIR. 
          CORRECT. 
          CORRECT. 
          HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE THAT HAS INCREASED? I COULDN'T TELL YOU THE EXACT DATE, BUT IT HAS BEEN A WHILE. 
          AND, UH, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT, THAT THESE NUMBERS WERE THE SAME WHEN THE FUEL WAS $6 A GALLON. 
          SO WHAT IS, WHAT'S MAKING OUR FUEL GO UP TO WHERE WE'RE THE HIGHEST FUEL IN THE WORLD? UH, WHAT, WHAT ATTRIBUTES TO THE COST OF FUEL, OF COURSE, IS, UM, WHAT THE SUPPLIER, UH, COST IS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BUYING FUEL. 
          THE DIFFERENT GROUPS AT THE AIRPORT THAT ARE BUYING FUEL, UH, AND THEN RESUPPLYING IT TO THE USERS. 
          THE PILOTS, RIGHT. 
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ALL THE AIRPORTS AROUND GET IT FROM THE SAME PEOPLE, DON'T THEY? AND WHEN ONE AIRPORT'S AT $4 AND 50 CENTS A GALLON AND WE'RE AT $8 AND 50 CENTS A GALLON, I, I THINK THAT IS A, A FEE THAT WE TRULY NEED TO DRILL DOWN AND SEE HOW LONG THAT'S BEEN AND, UM, COME MORE UP TO DATE WITH, UH, WHERE WE NEED TO BE IN THE MARKETPLACE ON THAT. 
          AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RESEARCH AND, AND HAVE, HAVE A SESSION ON HOW OTHER AIRPORTS ARE DOING THIS. 
          ARE OTHER AIRPORTS JUST DOING IT ON A FLOW RATE FEE OR ARE THEY THE PROVIDER AND THEY, THEY, WE OWN THE EQUIPMENT DO WE NOT, WE OWN THE, THE, THE FARM FUEL, FARM EQUIPMENT. 
          I KNOW THAT. 
          AND, AND THEN OUR FBOS WOULD HAVE THE TRUCKS THAT THEY WOULD GET THAT AND, AND GO OUT. 
          SO, UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT PROCESS BROUGHT UP TO DATE. 
          AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN, LET'S SEE IF WE'RE ANTIQUATED OR IF WE'RE ABOVE THE DEAL. 
          AND IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE ABOVE, LET'S ADJUST EITHER WAY. 
          BUT, UH, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S BEEN AT THIS AIRPORT FOR A VERY LONG TIME. 
          AND I, THOSE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. 
          SO I, I, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE US LOOK AT THAT. 
          UM, I'M LOOKING, THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, I, I SAW IN HERE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT SCREEN IT WAS, BUT, UH, UH, THERE WAS A LINE FOR THE DRONES, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, DRONES, AND THE, UH, TILLER, UH, TRAINING. 
          ARE WE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THOSE ANYMORE OR ARE THOSE IN THE BUDGET TO STAY? THEY'RE IN HERE. 
          SO THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THEM. 
          THE, THE, THE POINT I WANNA MAKE ON THE DRONES IS THAT, THAT IS A BRAND NEW DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN, I DON'T THINK WE'VE BEEN GIVEN ENOUGH OF A INTRODUCTION TO THIS TO UNDERSTAND. 
          IT WAS JUST BROUGHT UPON US, KIND OF ME AT THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT, KIND OF SIDESWIPED WITH THAT. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO, TO GO. 
          UH, I BROUGHT UP MY CONCERNS ON THE TILLER TRAINING, UH, BRINGING SOMEBODY IN, THAT'S AN AWFUL LARGE NUMBER TO, TO DO TRAINING ON THAT TRUCK WHEN WE HAVE NEIGHBORS HERE THAT WE COULD UTILIZE FROM DALLAS OR ANY OTHER CITY THAT THAT'S CLOSE, THOSE ARE TWO THAT I WOULD TRULY LIKE TO, UH, SEE US TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE, RATHER THAN JUST HAVE IT IN A LINE IN THE BUDGET AND, AND PASS IT AS A, UH, AS A WHOLE. 
          AND THAT'S JUST A COMMENT. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO ON, UM, ON SLIDE SEVEN, SO THOSE ARE THE GENERAL FUND DECISION, UH, PACKAGES. 
          UH, I AM, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THESE, THESE ARE SENSIBLE, UM, DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING. 
          WE'RE INSOURCING HVAC TECH SAVING MONEY. 
          IT'S NOT JUST MONEY. 
          YOU SAVE, IT'S SERVICE, YOU SAVE, SO YOU GET STUFF DONE A LOT FASTER. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO SCHEDULE FOR IT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT WEEKS FOR IT. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT ALL THE CONTROLS. 
          SO I'M, I'M REALLY, REALLY, UH, POSITIVE ON THAT POLICE OFFICER. 
          WE ALWAYS WANT MORE PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          THERE WAS A POLICE OFFICER SITTING, UH, AT THE STOP SIGN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          LOVE IT. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT OUR RESIDENTS ASK FOR THOSE, THOSE INCREASED, UH, SERVICES FROM POLICE. 
          THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. 
          UH, ASSISTANT, UH, BUILDING OFFICIAL, UH, IT MAKES US MORE BUSINESS FRIENDLY, BEING ABLE TO PROCESS THINGS FASTER, UM, MAKING IT, UM, EASIER TO DO BUSINESS IN ADDISON. 
          SO REALLY, UH, HAPPY ABOUT THOSE. 
          SLIDE NINE. 
          WHAT IS, WHAT'S MAINTENANCE AND HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN CAPITAL REPLACEMENT? SO, SO MAINTENANCE IS, UM, WHEN YOU SEE WE HAVE, IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, DOING MAINTENANCE AT REPLACING THINGS AT SAY THE PARK OR, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          UM, THE CAPITAL REPLACEMENT ARE THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT EACH DEPARTMENT, IF THEY HAVE, SAY CAPITAL EQUIPMENT OR IT EQUIPMENT THAT THEY SEND TO, UH, THE CAPITAL EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND, SO THAT WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE NEED POLICE VEHICLES TO BE REPLACED, WE'VE ALREADY SET ASIDE THE MONEY FOR THOSE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THO THOSE TWO GO INTO MAINTAINING, REPLACING THOSE, THOSE TWO ESSENTIALLY. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ON, UH, SLIDE 13, I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THIS. 
          I, SORRY TO BEAT THE DEAD HORSE. 
          UH, SLIDE 14. 
          UM, SO WHAT'S THE TOTAL REVENUE GENERATED BY THIS INCREASE? UH, FOR THIS YEAR? IT IS 945,000 FOR THE TOTAL INCREASE. 
          WHAT'S THE TOTAL REVENUE FOR TO FULLY PHASE IT IN? YES, YES. 
          UH, ONE, ONE ABOUT 1,850,000. 
          OKAY. 
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THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO LOOK AT. 
          SO, UH, 1 CENT IS ABOUT, UH, 600,000 MM-HMM . 
          IS THAT RIGHT? SO 700,000 OR SO NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          700,000. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT ONE $1.1 MILLION INCREASE. 
          UH, THAT IS, UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT 1 CENT THAT WE'RE SAVING ON, ON OR LOWERING THE PROPERTY TAX. 
          I JUST WANT TO KIND OF PROCESS THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, UM, THE SLIDE THAT HAS, UM, THE BELTWAY AND MIDWAY BELT WAY AND MIDWAY, THAT ONE. 
          THIS ONE, YES. 
          SO I'M NOT ONE TO PRICE THINGS OUT. 
          I DON'T WANNA GET OUTTA MY LANE, BUT I WANTED TO KIND OF BOUNCE THIS OFF THE REST OF COUNCIL, UH, $250,000. 
          I DID STOP AT THAT INTERSECTION SUNDAY MORNING AND LOOK AT IT, I, I WAS RIDING MY BIKE ACROSS IT, AND SO I WENT AND TOOK PICTURES AND LOOKED AT IT. 
          AND, UM, I WAS THINKING THAT WHAT'S THE POSSIBILITY OF LOWERING THAT SEAT? WHAT CAN WE DO FOR THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND IN SUBSEQUENT, WHEN SUBSEQUENT YEARS, WE COULD DO MORE. 
          UM, THE APARTMENTS RESIDENTIAL IS, IS NOT FULLY ONLINE YET, SO THERE'S LESS FOOT TRAFFIC GOING ACROSS THERE. 
          AND IF WE TAKE THAT OTHER 150,000 AND APPLY IT TO THE DNT IMPROVEMENTS, 'CAUSE I WANNA PUT EVERYTHING WE CAN IN CROSSING THE DALLAS TOLLWAY FROM VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY OVER TO THE HOTELS. 
          SO NOT SPENDING AS MUCH HERE. 
          AND IF WE DON'T SPEND ALL OF THAT THERE, WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ALL OF IT EXTRA. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE THE ONE 50, IF I SAY, IF WE LOWER IT TO 100, HAVE 150 LESS, MOVE IT OVER TO THE, UM, DNT IMPROVEMENTS AND DO MORE THERE. 
          BUT TWO THINGS ON THIS, WELL, I THINK WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS WE WANNA DO MIDWAY AND BELTWAY, RIGHT? AND WE WANNA LOOK AT USING THAT CROSSWALK AS MAYBE A TEMPLATE FOR WHAT WE USE AROUND THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I THINK WE'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB OF BUILDING OUT OUR TRAIL SYSTEM, BUT WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE ZERO CROSSWALKS AND THAT TWO 50, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE, WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, A LOT OF IT IS CURB WORK. 
          WE, WE, WE OPTED OUT TO GO WITH A CHEAPER ROUTE AND JUST, I DON'T, IT'S NOT, IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S A STEP ABOVE PAINT, BUT THE MARKINGS, RATHER THAN CUTTING INTO THE CONCRETE AND PUTTING IN PAVERS, UM, AND THEN THERE'S THE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANNA CALL IT, THE REFUGE AISLE OR ISLAND WHERE IF YOU MAKE IT HALFWAY ACROSS, THERE'S A PLACE TO, TO SIT OR STAND, I GUESS. 
          UM, SO I, I'M NOT SURE A HUNDRED THOUSAND REALLY GETS ACCOMPLISHED, WHAT NEEDS TO GET ACCOMPLISHED. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANY OF THAT COSTS, WHAT ANY OF THOSE ITEMIZED PIECES ARE. 
          AND LOOKING AT IT, IT'S, UM, I'M PRETTY FISCAL GUY, SO IT LOOKS ADEQUATE TO ME. 
          UM, BUT I DO KNOW WE WANT TO IMPROVE IT. 
          UH, AND THIS MONEY IS THERE TO BE SPENT ON THINGS LIKE THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR. 
          I GOT THAT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT WAS. 
          IF WE DON'T SPEND IT ALL HERE THIS YEAR, THEN LET'S, LET'S GO AHEAD AND USE, STILL USE SOME OF THE MONEY AND DO BETTER JOB ON THE EXISTING HIGHER TRA FOOT TRAFFIC, UH, INTERSECTION OF THE DNTN BELT, UH, BELT LINE. 
          THAT'S THE CONCEPT. 
          I, I LIKE YOUR, YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS, CHRIS. 
          SO YOU'RE, I I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          AS FAR AS ALL OF THAT IMPROVEMENT, I JUST WANTED TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE CONTROL OVER THE TOTAL, THE SPEND THIS NEXT YEAR VERSUS A $250,000 BUDGET. 
          AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE, UH, VISIBILITY INTO THAT UNTIL IT COMES BACK TO US ON THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS LATER IN THE YEAR. 
          THOUGHTS, ANYBODY? WELL, MY THOUGHTS ON THIS IS I DON'T THINK A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS GOES VERY FAR BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN HISTORICALLY ON ANY KIND OF ROAD WORK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY, UH, PRETTY SKIMPY, UM, CORRECTION OF THAT INTERSECTION. 
          SO I'D PREFER TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. 
          MARLON, DID YOU HAVE A THOUGHT ON THAT OR DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? WELL, YEAH, I, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS. I'M NEXT IN QUEUE. 
          YOU WANNA CHIME IN ON THIS? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING HERE. 
          SO ARE YOU SAYING TAKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND OUT OF THE TWO 50,000 FOR THAT INTERSECTION? 150. 
          150 OUT OF THE TWO 50. 
          AND THOSE WERE JUST ARBITRARY NUMBERS. 
          I MEAN, MAYBE WE CUT IT IN HALF TO 1 25. 
          YEAH, I, I, WE, YOU KNOW, MY ONLY THOUGHT I'LL SHARE IS WE SPENT A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME, IT'S LIKE WHAT WE, WHAT WE WANNA ACCOMPLISH AT THAT INTERSECTION. 
          AND I HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT WHAT THAT COST, BUT I TRUST BECKY. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BECKY'S HERE AND, AND, UM, SO WE WENT THROUGH THAT ABOUT A MONTH AGO OR SO, AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH IT AGAIN THIS LAST MEETING. 
          SO YEAH, SHE SAYS IT COSTS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I, I CAN'T CALIBRATE 
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YEAH. 
          WHAT ALL THESE, THESE STREET STREET REPAIRS AND WE, AND THAT'S NOT, IT'S NOT OUR ROLE TO DO THAT ANYWAY, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY COST. 
          BUT I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THIS BELTWAY MIDWAY INTERSECTION IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA THAT ARE WALKING, GOING OVER TO JAKE'S OR TO LONDON OR WHEREVER. 
          I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT INTERSECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT RIGHT, AS WELL AS THE, THE THE OVER THE, UH, NORTH TO DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY. 
          UH, SO I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T WANT TO CUT BACK ON THIS, THIS ONE ON THIS INTERSECTION. 
          'CAUSE 'CAUSE WE'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, A GOOD AMOUNT OF CONCERNS FROM FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA, THAT USE THAT INTERSECTION, INCLUDING COUNCIL MEMBERS, HOW IMPORTANT THAT INTERSECTION IS THERE. 
          AND IT, IT, YEAH, IT, IT MAY NOT, IT MAY COST LESS. 
          WE DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT, BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT DONE THE WAY WE DISCUSSED AND THEN IF, IF THERE'S SOME EXTRA MONEY, UM, FOR STREETS YEAH. 
          MAKES LOT, YOU KNOW, MAKES, MAKES SENSE THAT WE, WE MIGHT USE IT FOR SOMETHING LIKE YOU'RE ALLUDING TO DARREN. 
          YEAH. 
          DID YOU HAVE A THOUGHT ON THIS, DAN? YEAH. 
          AGAIN, BACK TO MARLON'S POINT, I TRUST WHAT BECKY'S CONCLUSIONS ARE AND THAT THE FACT THAT DARREN, THAT TREE HOUSE ONE IS COMING ONLINE. 
          SO THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING INTO TREE HOUSE ONE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA WALK NORTH AND COME ACROSS. 
          SO WE'RE NOT CALCULATING THAT. 
          AND THEN COBALT SAID THEY'VE OPENED PHASE TWO FOR SALE. 
          UM, THE GROW OBVIOUSLY HAS NEW EXPANSION. 
          SO I, I JUST, I SEE A LOT OF GROWTH IN THAT AREA. 
          AND WHY WAIT FOR THE, TO COME AND THEN HAVE TO GO BACK AND EXPLAIN IT WHEN WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED FOR IT. 
          THIS IS MY THOUGHTS. 
          DID YOU HAVE INPUT ON THIS ONE? I DO, IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          SURE. 
          THI THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUSTING BECKY OR NOT TRUSTING BECKY. 
          WE ALL TRUST BECKY. 
          SHE'S FABULOUS. 
          THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BECKY'S TRUST. 
          WHAT THIS HAS TO DO WITH IS WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO THERE. 
          AND WHAT I, I'M MORE IN DARREN'S, I'M, I'M VERY MUCH IN HIS CORNER ON THIS ONE. 
          THIS REFUGE ISLAND IS WHAT I REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. 
          BUILDING AN ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. 
          THERE, THERE, THERE'S ALREADY A, A CURB THERE THAT YOU CAN GET ON. 
          BUT WE'VE HAD TESTIMONY FROM PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL THAT THEY WALK THAT A LOT. 
          AND THERE IS NO ISSUE WITH GETTING ACROSS THAT STREET ON, ON THE WALK SIGNAL. 
          SO IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT WE DON'T NEED. 
          IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUST. 
          AND THAT INTERSECTION SOUNDS ABSORBENT TO ME WITH THOSE EXPENSES AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ON THAT. 
          WELL, WELL, MY THOUGHT ON THAT, RANDY, IS I, I GET YOUR POINT ON THE, ON THE, UH, THE, THE ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE. 
          UM, AND, AND, AND I ASSUME AT SOME POINT THAT WE WOULD HAVE, WHEN THIS, WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DO THIS, THAT WE MIGHT HAVE, WOULD INPUT ON THE FINAL DESIGN OF THAT PROJECT AND WE MIGHT DECIDE, NO, WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT AS A COUNCIL. 
          IS THAT CORRECT, DAVID? SO, SO JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BUDGET DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN THAT WAY, BUT I'D RATHER HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET. 
          IT IS CERTAINLY MORE LIKELY TO HAPPEN IF IT'S IN THE BUDGET. 
          NOT NECESSARILY IT, IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL OKAY. 
          TO MAKE THAT DECISION. 
          I, I, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, BRUCE. 
          UH, I, I DO KNOW THAT'S, THAT'S THE NEXT STOP HERE IS, IS WHEN THE COMPONENTS COME IN, THE PROJECT COMES IN, BECKY BRINGS IT TO US, WE CAN SAY, I DON'T THINK WE WANNA SPEND THAT MUCH ON IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THE THING IS, IT GOES BACK INTO THE FUND. 
          IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE, WE HAVE TO SPEND. 
          SO I WANTED TO BRING UP THE TOPIC JUST TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO SAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M NOT STUCK TO IT. 
          I'D LIKE NICER, YOU KNOW, NICER INTERSECTION THERE AS WELL. 
          UM, AND PART OF AM EMILY TREE HOUSE ONE IS COMING ONLINE SOON. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WAS ALREADY SUPPOSED TO BE ONLINE, BUT, UH, AND THEN THAT'S NOT ALL OF AM EMILY ONE. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A TRICKLE THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR, TWO COUPLE YEARS WILL BE MORE OF THE COMPLETION. 
          HOWEVER, I'M FINE WITH IT. 
          NICE'S BETTER. 
          JUST WANNA HEAR WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAD TO SAY. 
          I'D LIKE TO GO, UH, FINALLY FOR ME IS BACK TO THE A FUEL PRICING. 
          SO MAYBE, UM, A LITTLE MORE JAMIE AGAS, UH, FOR THE, UH, AIRPORT. 
          WHAT MAKES THAT UP? UH, SO TO RANDY'S POINT, THE, UH, FUEL COST IS SOME AMOUNT, AND THEN IT ENDS UP WHEN IT GOES INTO THE AIRPLANES, UH, AT $8 A GALLON OR $10 A GALLON. 
          I ASSUME THAT THE FBOS WERE THE ONES MARKING THAT UP. 
          IS, IS THAT THE CORRECT ASSUMPTION? JAMIE AOSA, AIRPORT DIRECTOR? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          THE INDIVIDUAL PRICES THAT YOU WILL FIND AT THE FBOS ARE MARKED BY EACH RESPECTIVE FBO. 
          SO IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT THE GAS THAT COMES OUT OF THE TRUCK, THE A FUEL AND THE, UM, THE JET FUEL AND THE AGAS IS GONNA BE THE SAME PRICE AS DENTON PAYS AS THE IN INITIAL COST OF THE AIRPORT. 
          UM, AND THEN THE OPERATORS CHARGE EXTRA. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THEY CHARGE EXTRA. 
          'CAUSE IT, THAT IS A LARGE PART OF THEIR REVENUE AND IT'S, IT'S 
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A HIGHER COST TO OPERATE HERE. 
          IT IS NICER FBOS. 
          SO, SO THOSE THINGS THAT, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, WHAT THAT COST. 
          UM, WHAT WAS DRIVING THAT COST VERSUS MAGICALLY ADDISON GAS JUST COSTS MORE, UM, EVEN BEFORE IT GETS TO THE FBO ONE. 
          ONE DISTINCT THING THAT I DID WANNA POINT OUT ABOUT THE FBOS IS THAT IN MANY CASES, SOME OF THE AIRPORTS THAT ARE IN OUR REGION, THE FBO IS ACTUALLY MAN OWNED AND MANAGED BY THE CITY ITSELF FOR THE, THE ENTITY THAT OWNS THE AIRPORT. 
          UM, AND SO THEY HAVE, I'M GONNA SAY IN CERTAIN CASES, BASED ON MY DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF THESE AIRPORTS, ARTIFICIALLY LOW PRICES. 
          AND THAT'S JUST TO, FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET AS MUCH TRAFFIC AT THEIR RESPECTIVE AIRPORTS AS POSSIBLE, WHICH HELPS THEM GETTING SOME FEDERAL GRANTS, UH, FROM TIME TO TIME. 
          IN OUR CASE, OF COURSE, THE FBOS ARE PRIVATE ENTITIES, UH, THAT PROVIDE THE FUEL. 
          SO WE HAVE A DIFFERENT BUSINESS MODEL, IF YOU WOULD. 
          YEAH, IT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT. 
          AND THAT IS ATTRACTING, UH, PILOTS TO GO TO THOSE AIRPORTS WITH, UH, LESSER LOWER GAS COSTS. 
          THANKS, JIMMY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, AND JAMIE, TO YOUR POINT, UH, I ASSUME SOME OF THOSE AIRPORTS THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING MAY OR MAY NOT BE SELF-SUSTAINING ON THEIR OWN? THAT IS CORRECT, YES, SIR. 
          YEAH, I I ACTUALLY JUST WENT TO A CONFERENCE TWO WEEKS AGO AND I WAS STILL SURPRISED TO FIND A NUMBER OF AIRPORTS, EVEN REGIONALLY, THAT ARE STILL NOT SELF-SUSTAINING. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY, THEY HAVE TO BE SUPPORTED BY THE JOURNAL FUNDS, WHICH WE OF COURSE DO NOT. 
          YEAH. 
          REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT DISTINCTION THERE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          MARLON, YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. 
          I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          UM, AND ONE OF THEM IS GONNA BE FOR, UH, I BELIEVE LESLIE KNIGHT. 
          I JUST WANNA LET HER KNOW I'VE GOT A QUESTION COMING HER WAY. 
          UM, SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS ADDISON CIRCLE. 
          UH, WE SPENT SOME TIME LAST YEAR IN THE BUDGET, AND I KNOW WE'VE DONE SOME SURVEYS AND SO FORTH ABOUT BRICK PAVERS AND SO FORTH IN THE SURVEY. 
          DO WE HAVE, IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OR SOMEWHERE IN HERE WHERE, WHERE WE HAVE SOMETHING BUDGETED FOR FOR THAT? THAT'S A BECKY. 
          OKAY. 
          BECKY WILL COME UP AND SPEAK TO THAT. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          BECKY DIVINITY, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING. 
          SO THE ADDISON CIRCLE PAVER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES THE TREE WELL PROJECT. 
          A SURVEY HAS BEEN COMPLETED ON THE OVERALL TREE WELLS, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY COORDINATING WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ON THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE TREE WELLS. 
          WE'VE ALSO CONDUCTED AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL ON THE GROUND SURVEY. 
          AND AS YOU WALK THROUGHOUT THAT AREA, YOU MAY SEE LITTLE WHITE DOTS ALONG QUORUM. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY THE DEMARCATION BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE PROPERTY, PROPERTY OWNER AND THE TOWN MM-HMM . 
          AND SO NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY STARTING A FILLED ASSESSMENT, ACTUALLY WALKING THE AREA, LOOKING AT SPECIFIC LOCATIONS THAT CAN, WE CAN BEGIN THE REPAIRS IN COORDINATION WITH MAKING THOSE TREE WELL IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO, SO WE ARE WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE DOING THE ASSESSMENT PART. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND, AND COULD YOU, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT, BUT YOU, COULD YOU REFRESH OUR MEMORY, HOW LONG IS THAT A YEAR PROCESS OR? SO IT IS GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. 
          WE ACTUALLY CHANGED, INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY HIRING SOMEONE TO COME IN AND DO THAT, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THAT INTERNALLY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND SO WE TOOK THE APPROACH OF STARTING WITH QUORUM DRIVE, DOING THAT PHYSICAL ON THE GROUND SURVEY, LOOKING AT WHERE MAA IS RESPONSIBLE VERSUS THE TOWN. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN COORDINATION WITH MAA AS THEY HAVE CERTAIN AREAS THEY WANT TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING GOOD PARTNERS WITH THEM. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          SO WHEN I SAY ASSESSMENT, THAT'S PHYSICALLY WALKING AND LOOKING AT EVERY SINGLE LOCATION, UM, ALONG QUORUM LOOKING TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT NEEDS A SLEEPER SLAB AND WHAT TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT NEEDS TO BE MADE WITH THE FUNDING ASSOCIATED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROJECT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WE SURE UP. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT IT. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND I WAS JUST GONNA YES. 
          ADD TO THE CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME WE DID, WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT VERY LARGE NUMBER, NOT ONLY FOR FULL ASSESSMENT, BUT ALSO POTENTIALLY A LOT OF MONEY GOING FORWARD. 
          SO AS BECKY SAID, WHAT WE DECIDED WAS, HEY, LET'S JUST USE STAFF GO AREA BY AREA. 
          WE HAVE SOME FUNDING NOW, SO WE'RE GONNA TACKLE THE AREAS. 
          WE CAN NOW GAIN A LOT OF INFORMATION AND AS WE HAVE FUTURE ONES, WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL. 
          IF, IF WE NEED TO COME BACK BEFORE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, WE'LL COME BACK. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THIS APPROACH IS, IS GONNA BE OUR BEST PATH TO GET THERE. 
          PERFECT. 
          YEAH, I JUST NEEDED TO REFRESH KINDA WHERE, WHERE WE WERE AT WITH IT, SO THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN I'VE GOT A QUESTION, UM, FOR LESLIE, IF I COULD. 
          SO, UM, WE, WE HAVE BEEN BRIEFED OF LATE, UM, RECENTLY ABOUT A LOT OF, UH, LET'S SAY RENTAL RENTAL STUFF AND WE'RE GONNA BE CONSIDERING SOMETHING, UM, UH, SOME, MAYBE SOME SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE UPDATE. 
          AND, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ON THE APARTMENTS AND MAYBE OTHER, OTHER PROPERTIES. 
          BUT IT, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT WHICHEVER PATH WE, WE GO DOWN THERE, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME WORK, WORK INVOLVED. 
          UM, AND, AND CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS GOT THAT. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER THING 
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THAT, UM, THAT, THAT, UH, I'VE LEARNED RECENTLY, UM, AND LESLIE CAN, HAS GOT THE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT IS ON, YOU ALL CAME TO US FOUR MONTHS, FIVE MONTHS AGO ON THE RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM AND YOU GAVE US UPDATES AND I THINK YOU SAID SOMETHING LIKE FEE SIMPLE, WE HAD 115 OR A HUNDRED SOMETHING REGISTERED. 
          UM, AND, AND AT THAT POINT THERE WAS A COUPLE OF US MADE SOME COMMENTS, HEY, THAT SEEMS, THAT SEEMS A LITTLE SHORT OF, OF THE UNIVERSE OF, OF, UH, RENTAL PROPERTIES AND FEE SIMPLE. 
          AND SO CAN YOU SHARE WITH US WHAT DO YOU, WHAT IS THE TOTAL, UH, FEE SYMBOLS THAT ARE RENTALS RIGHT NOW? UM, YOU SAID HOW MANY THAT ARE REGISTERED? ONE 10. 
          SO, UM, AS OF LAST WEEK WE HAD 105 REGISTERED MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND THE TOTAL THAT ARE, UM, EITHER NOT REGISTERED OR JUST THE TOTAL THAT WE NO. 
          YEAH, SO WE DID. 
          UM, SO IT WAS ALWAYS KIND OF OUR INTENT THAT THE SECOND YEAR OF THE PROGRAM, WHICH WE'RE NEARING THE END OF THE SECOND YEAR, THAT WE WOULD REALLY TARGET, UM, SINGLE FAMILY RENTALS. 
          THERE'S A LOT OUT THERE AND IT TAKES A LOT OF PERSONAL SERVICE TO, UM, GET ALL OF THOSE REGISTERED. 
          AND SO, UH, WITH THE HELP, HELP OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE, UM, USED SOME STRATEGIES SUCH AS HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS, WHETHER OR NOT THE, UM, PROPERTY ADDRESS AND THE OWNER ADDRESS ALIGN, UM, ON, UM, FOR, ON TAX RECORDS AND SO FORTH, UM, TO BEGIN TO NARROW THAT DOWN. 
          AND SO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED, SO, UM, USING THOSE VARIOUS CRITERIA, WE ACTUALLY NARROWED IT DOWN TO APPROXIMATELY 865. 
          AND FROM THERE, UH, WE WENT THROUGH AND TRIED TO NARROW IT MORE BASED UPON PROPERTIES THAT WE ARE AWARE OF. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WE KNOW THAT, UM, IN TOWN HOMES OWNS A LOT OF LOTS THAT ARE NOT DEVELOPED YET. 
          SO WE REMOVE THOSE OUT, WE KNOW THOSE AREN'T RENTAL PROPERTIES. 
          UM, AND SO THROUGH THAT WE CONTINUE TO NARROW IT DOWN TO 522 THAT WE BELIEVE ARE RENTAL. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE BEGUN, UM, JUST ACTUALLY LAST WEEK REALLY TARGETING THOSE THROUGH PERSONAL SERVICE, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE GOAL IS TO HOPEFULLY GET ALL OF THOSE REGISTERED. 
          UM, IT IS A CONTINUAL EFFORT BECAUSE THOSE COULD CHANGE, NEW RENTAL PROPERTIES COULD ARISE. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE'LL NEED TO REVISIT AT LEAST EVERY YEAR, IF NOT MORE FREQUENTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WE HAVE ABOUT 417 THAT, THAT WE PROJECT THAT, UH, WE NEED TO GET REGISTERED, BUT, BUT THEY'RE NOT REGISTERED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, AND, AND OUT OF THAT, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY FORECASTS, LIKE HOW MANY WITH YOUR STAFF MM-HMM . 
          UH, HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE IN THAT, IN THAT GROUP THAT'S WORKING THAT PROCESS? SO OUR CODE COMPLIANCE STAFF, UH, CURRENTLY CONSISTS OF TWO CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, UH, ONE SENIOR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES MANAGER WHO SUPERVISES THAT TEAM, UM, AS WELL AS SUPERVISING ANIMAL SERVICES AS WELL. 
          SO JUST THREE MM-HMM . 
          THREE TOTAL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND SO WITH, WITH THAT GROUP OF THREE, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA LIKE HOW HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE THAT GROUP TO WORK THROUGH THIS 417, UH, ON TOP OF ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW? YEAH, SO, UM, RIGHT NOW A LOT OF THE, AND I'M GONNA SAY THE INITIAL WORK IS GOING TO BE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE, WALKING THOSE INDIVIDUALS THROUGH THE, UM, APPLICATION PROCESS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'VE SUBMIT THE CORRECT PAPERWORK AND SO FORTH. 
          UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE DO THE ONSITE INSPECTIONS FOR EACH OF THOSE HOMES, UM, THAT INSPECTION. 
          UM, AND WE WOULD HAVE NEED TO SCHEDULE IN ADVANCE, IN MOST CASES, THOSE ARE, UM, OCCUPIED UNITS. 
          UM, SO WE WOULD WANT, AND THEN WE, FOR OCCUPIED UNITS, UM, WE DO NOT DO THOSE INDEPENDENTLY. 
          SO THAT INCLUDES TWO OFFICERS. 
          UH, THEY DO WEAR BODY CAMS FOR THE SAFETY OF EVERYONE INVOLVED. 
          UM, AND SO THOSE ON AVERAGE TAKE APPROXIMATELY AN HOUR. 
          SO, UM, TO GIVE YOU AN, AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, IT JUST, IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE GOT A VERY BIG NUMBER AND, AND THAT WE'VE GOT THREE OFFICERS AND YOU NEED TO WORK IN TANDEM. 
          UH, WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE DOING THE INSPECTIONS, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'VE GOT A, A, UH, HERCULEAN EFFORT IN FRONT OF US. 
          THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN QUICKLY WITH THAT, THAT BIG OF A NUMBER. 
          AND SO MY, MY THOUGHT IS, UM, SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE BE CONSIDERING ANOTHER CODE OFFICER TO, TO TACKLE THAT, THAT KIND OF A LOAD TO GET, GET THAT KIND OF UNDER CONTROL? I KNOW THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM MM-HMM . 
          IT JUST 
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TAKES SOME TIME TO RAMP UP. 
          SO THAT'S THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THAT IT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          I'D LIKE TO, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THESE, WITH THESE THOUGHTS. 
          AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHATEVER YOU CARE TO SHARE. 
          LIKE WHAT, WHAT MIGHT THAT LOOK LIKE IF WE DID OR IF WE DIDN'T? LIKE HOW CAN WE TACKLE THIS, THIS PROBLEM OF, UH, POSSIBLY 417, UH, FEE SIMPLE THAT ARE NOT REGISTERED? YEAH, SO, UM, THE FIRST, I WOULD JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT THOSE ARE SUSPECTED RENTALS. 
          SO WE ARE, HOW WE ARE TACKLING THAT BIG NUMBER TO TRY TO, UM, MITIGATE SOME OF THE WORKFLOW ALL AT ONCE IS WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING, UM, SENDING OUT 50 LETTERS EVERY TWO WEEKS SO THAT WHEN WE'RE GETTING PHONE CALLS, WE'RE NOT GETTING 400 PHONE CALLS AT ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE WEEK. 
          UM, SO WE'RE STAGGER STAGGERING THOSE OUT, UM, TO KIND OF SPREAD THAT WORKFLOW OUT THROUGH THE REST OF THE YEAR. 
          UM, AND IT WILL LIKELY BLEED INTO NEXT YEAR. 
          OBVIOUSLY OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE, UM, SINCE SUSTAINED IMPROVEMENT AND SUSTAINED INCREASE IN THOSE NUMBERS AND RESULTS. 
          UH, WE KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN ALL IN IN ONE ONE WEEK. 
          UM, SO TO ADDRESS KIND OF SOME OF YOUR OVERALL POINTS, WE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT INTERNALLY. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RECENTLY IS IDENTIFYING SOME EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO OUR FIELD OFFICERS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT IN THE, IN THE FIELD WHEN THEY'RE DOING THOSE INSPECTIONS. 
          UM, INCLUDING MAYBE REROUTING SOME OF THEIR, THE PHONE CALLS TO SOME OF OUR OFFICE STAFF. 
          SO WHEN THEY'RE IN THE FIELD, THEY ARE JUST MORE EFFICIENT. 
          SOME OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER IS WHEN WE, AS WE CONTINUE TO SEE AN INCREASE IN REGISTRATION OF PROPERTIES, WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASE IN REVENUE TOO. 
          UM, SO THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING WE'RE CONSIDERING AS WELL. 
          AS A, AS WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE REVENUE, WE MIGHT HIT THAT THRESHOLD WHERE IT IS, UM, APPROPRIATE AND WE ARE COST RECOVERING TO INTRODUCE ADDITIONAL, UM, EMPLOYEES. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING WE CONTINUE TO EVALUATE. 
          AND THEN, UH, YOU TOUCHED ON IT, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS THAT, UM, WE'VE EITHER TALKED ABOUT OR WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE TALKING ABOUT, INCLUDING THE SHORT TERM RENTAL DISCUSSION AND ALSO THE VACANT BUILDING ORDINANCE. 
          THOSE ARE PROGRAMS THAT CODE COMPLIANCE WILL OVERSEE AS WELL, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BRING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR THE TOWN, BUT WILL ALSO NEED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO EXECUTE. 
          SO THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN FINALIZED YET. 
          SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND EVALUATE THE RESOURCES AND WHAT WE NEED TO EXECUTE THOSE PROGRAMS. UM, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT WE WILL, OVER THE NEXT YEAR, WE WILL INHERENTLY HAVE MORE REVENUE BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE MORE RENTAL PROPERTIES COMING ONLINE IN ADDISON. 
          A COUPLE OF THOSE, UM, INCLUDING JEFFERSON ARROW AND AMIE TREEHOUSE. 
          SO WE WILL SEE THE REVENUE FROM THOSE TWO PROPERTIES AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHERS. 
          UM, PROBABLY IN THIS NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, EVEN FOR THE NEW ONES, I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE SOME GRACE PERIOD FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS EXEMPT? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, YOU HAVE A REDUCTION IN, UM, UH, INSPECTIONS FOR UNITS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T GET WAIVED THE, THE REGISTRATION PROGRAM. 
          SO AM I HEARING YOU CORRECTLY THAT, THAT MAYBE THE GOAL RIGHT NOW IS ON, ON THESE 417 FEE SIMPLE YEAR? IS THE GOAL LIKE 50 A YEAR TO KNOCK OUT 50 A YEAR OR 50 AT A TIME? LIKE, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, HOW, HOW LONG MIGHT IT TAKE WITH OUR CURRENT STAFFING TO, WELL, TO GET THROUGH 417, UM, I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER 'CAUSE WE MIGHT COME BACK AND A QUARTER OF THOSE MIGHT NOT BE DETERMINED TO BE RENTALS FOR WHATEVER REASON. 
          SURE. 
          THEY PROVIDE US DOCUMENTATION AS SUCH. 
          UM, BUT I, UH, I MENTIONED WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO AT LEAST GET PERSONAL SERVICE TO 50 EVERY TWO WEEKS FOR UNTIL WE ARE THROUGH THOSE 417 OR ODD HOMES. 
          AND HOPEFULLY WE GET DIRECT FEEDBACK FROM THOSE AS ARE YOU RENTAL OR ARE YOU NOT RENTAL? UM, AND WHAT ARE YOU IN TERMS OF YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE PROPERTY? AND THEN, UH, WORK WITH THEM TO GET REGISTERED. 
          'CAUSE THE OTHER THING TOO IS A LOT OF TIMES THAT IS GOING TO GO TO THE RENTER, NOT THE OWNER. 
          SO THEN WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT, THAT RELATIONSHIP. 
          SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW, IT COULD BE THE END OF NEXT YEAR BEFORE WE GET THROUGH ALL OF THOSE 417. 
          UM, BUT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER CONSISTENTLY, UM, UNTIL WE REACH WHERE WE THINK WE ARE IN THE BALLPARK OF A HUNDRED PERCENT MM-HMM . 
          REGISTERED . 
          YEAH. 
          NO, I LOVE YOUR, I LOVE YOUR TEAM. 
          THEY'RE, I THINK THEY'RE DOING A GREAT WORK. 
          IT JUST, UM, OF LATE, YOU KNOW, I'M CONNECTING THE DOTS ON A COUPLE THINGS. 
          LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED THEM, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE LOADING THEM UP, UM, BEFORE THEY'VE EVEN KIND OF FINISHED THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE INITIAL PROJECT. 
          SO YEAH, I I, I WOULD LOVE FOR US 
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TO CONSIDER ANOTHER, ANOTHER CODE OFFICER TO TACKLE THIS, THIS, THIS WORK TO HELP TACKLE THIS WORK A LITTLE BIT SOONER, SOONER THAN LATER. 
          I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY AN ODD THING COMING FROM A COUNCIL MEMBERS, PROBABLY YOU HEAR MORE ABOUT CUTTING RATHER THAN ADDING, BUT THAT, THAT'S THE THOUGHT I WANTED TO, TO PROPOSE TO COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER FOR THAT PART. 
          I WOULD JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT. 
          I THINK LESLIE DID A GREAT JOB OF TALKING THROUGH THEIR WORKLOAD. 
          I WOULD JUST ADD TO IT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A, A CITY THAT HAS, IS IN REDEVELOPMENT IN A LOT OF PLACES AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF, OF A NUMBER OF CODE ISSUES. 
          SO OUR TEAM IS DOING A LOT . 
          YEAH. 
          VERY BUSY, VERY BUSY. 
          WE ARE ALWAYS HESITANT TO BRING NEW POSITIONS TO COUNCIL WHEN WE BRING 'EM. 
          WE WANT TO HAVE DATA, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND SAY, HERE'S EXACTLY WHAT WE EXPECT AND HERE'S THE REVENUE STREAMS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GONNA BE REVENUE TO SUPPORT ANY NEW POSITION THAT WE GET IN CODE. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S OUR HESITANCY TO BRING SOMETHING FORWARD INDEPENDENTLY. 
          BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL WANTS TO CONSIDER, THERE'S PLENTY OF WORK FOR IT AND WE COULD CERTAINLY BRING BACK MORE INFORMATION. 
          YEAH. 
          I'LL JUST MAKE A QUICK COMMENT AND I'LL LET LET THE OTHERS, UH, CHIME IN. 
          SO, AT, AT, AT THIS TIME, DO YOU SEE A, A, A NEED FOR THE ADDITIONAL PERSON OR IS IT KIND OF A TBD BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T GONE TOO FAR DOWN THIS PATH YET? UM, I WILL SAY, SO, UH, AS DAVID MENTIONED, THERE IS A LOT OF WORK FOR CODE COMPLIANCE AND SO MORE RESOURCES, WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE AND BE MORE RESPONSIVE. 
          UM, SO IN MY OPINION, IT'S NOT DO WE HAVE THE WORK? 'CAUSE THE WORK IS THERE, IT'S UM, DO WE WANNA INCREASE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, UM, AND BEGIN TO INTRODUCE NEW PROGRAMS LIKE IN WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN FINALIZED YET. 
          BUT THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, FORTHCOMING. 
          UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, DEVELOPMENT IS CONTINUING. 
          UM, I MENTIONED A COUPLE OF PROJECTS. 
          WE HAVE THE HOTEL COMING AT AS INJUNCTION, SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SEE MORE DEVELOPMENT THAT, UM, CODE IS THEN RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING INTO OUR PROGRAMS THAT ARE ONLY GOING TO INCREASE OUR, OUR WORKLOAD IN SOME, IN SOME CAPACITY. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES THAT, SO, SO, SO THERE'S, THERE'S THE WHOLE WORKLOAD AND, AND EACH DAY EACH IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE DIVIDED UP AMONGST THE, THE TEAM AND EVERYBODY GOES AND DOES THEIR THING. 
          IS THERE A THOUGHT THAT IT'S GOING TO, THAT THAT, THAT THAT WORKLOAD IS GONNA KEEP BUILDING, BUILDING, BUILDING THAT THEY CAN'T KEEP UP BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE PLENTY OF WORK FOR WHOEVER'S THERE. 
          I GUESS I'M JUST, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PREMATURE TO DO IT FOR US TO DO IT, OR DO YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE IT IS JUST, IT'S IT'S BIGGER THAN WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND, AND IF YOU WERE ASKING FOR IT NOW, I'D BE HAPPY TO CONSIDER THAT. 
          UM, OR EVEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, IF WE DO A MIDYEAR, YOU KNOW, YOU COME TO US AND SAY IT'S JUST TOO MUCH. 
          WE NEED, WE NEED SOME HELP, UH, I'D BE INTERESTED IN CONSIDERING THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, I'M JUST NOT SURE. 
          I'D BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT THE OTHERS THINK ABOUT THAT AS WELL. 
          BUT, UH, UM, I, I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO, TO COME TO, TO DAVID AND HE COMES TO US AND SAYS, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE AND, AND LAY OUT THE CASE FOR THAT. 
          SO, UM, CHANEL, I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU, SO GO RIGHT AHEAD. 
          SO THANK YOU LISA. 
          SO CAN JUST FROM YOUR CURRENT PROCESS, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THE CURRENT PROCESS? LIKE WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DON'T PASS THE INSPECTION? YEAH, SO, UM, IT, IT DEPENDS WHAT IT IS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, UH, WE HAVE, SO TO GIVE YOU UM, A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, THE REGISTRATION DEADLINE, UH, THROUGHOUT, SO IT'S AN ANNUAL, UM, BY CALENDAR YEAR, JANUARY 1ST THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, THE DEADLINE TO REGISTER FOR ALL HOTELS AND MOTELS AND, UH, RENTAL PROPERTIES IS MARCH 1ST OF EVERY YEAR. 
          UM, SO, UM, INSPECTIONS GENERALLY START SHORTLY THEREAFTER. 
          UH, WE JUST FINISHED INSPECTIONS TWO WEEKS AGO. 
          THAT WAS THE FIRST INSPECTION. 
          SO SOME OF THESE INSPECTIONS DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, WILL BE OUT THERE. 
          OUR ENTIRE TEAM. 
          SO THAT INCLUDES THREE INDIVIDUALS PLUS THE MANAGER, UH, ALL DAY APPROXIMATELY 9:00 AM THROUGH 4:00 PM FOUR. 
          AND IN FIVE DAYS STRAIGHT, DOING THE FIRST INSPECTION, THAT'S LOOKING AT THE, AT LEAST 5%, POTENTIALLY UP TO 10% OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS. 
          SOME OF THEM COULD BE OCCUPIED. 
          THAT'S LOOKING AT ALL COMMON AREAS. 
          UM, THE ENTIRE EXTERIOR, INTERIOR, SO FORTH, PARKING GARAGE AND SO FORTH. 
          UM, DEPENDING UPON THE VIOLATIONS IDENTIFIED, IF THEY'RE LIFE SAFETY, THOSE TYPICALLY ARE URGENT. 
          SO THEY COULD BE AS, THAT COULD BE A SHUT DOWN SCENARIO. 
          THAT COULD BE A 24 HOUR TURNAROUND. 
          IF ON, ON THE, THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, SOME OF THEM ARE 30, 60, 90 DAYS IF THEY ARE LOWER PRIORITY ITEMS, BUT THEY STILL NEED TO BE RESOLVED. 
          UM, AND SO NOW WE ARE IN THE PHASE OF THE REINSPECTION. 
          WE HAVE MANY THAT DID NOT PASS THEIR FIRST INSPECTION. 
          AND SO WE ARE NOW AT THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE ON NOTICE. 
          AND SO THEY, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH THEM 
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BASED UPON THAT APPROPRIATE DEADLINE TO CONFIRM THAT THEY DID COMPLY. 
          IF THEY DON'T COMPLY, WE COULD AT THAT POINT RESULT TO A CITATION ULTIMATELY AND THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH MR. MARLIN HERE, CONSIDERING THAT I THINK WE SHOULD MAYBE CONSIDER LOOKING AT, UM, PERHAPS ADDING, YOU GOT CHRISTMAS IN SEPTEMBER, GIRL , BUT MAYBE ADDING, SO MAYBE YOU ALL CAN COME BACK WITH, YOU KNOW, COME BACK TO US WITH WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU'RE SAYING, UM, YOU GOT ABOUT 522 AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T DRILLED DOWN, BUT WE DEAL, WE DO HAVE OTHER UNITS COMING ONLINE, THAT'S GONNA BE AN AWFUL LOT OF WORK. 
          SO KEEP UP THE GOOD JOB. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GO TO RANDY. 
          I HAVE NOTHING FOR LESLIE. 
          IF SOMEONE HAS, HAS SOMETHING ON THIS TOPIC OR FOR LESLIE, I WOULD YIELD TO THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAYOR. 
          SURE, LET'S DO THAT FIRST, CHRIS. 
          THANK YOU RANDY. 
          SO I, I, FIRST OF ALL, IN THE FRIDAY REPORT YOU TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE AMOUNT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND I, I, I THOUGHT I WAS, I WAS TRYING TO FIND IT AND I CAN'T FIND IT NOW, BUT HAVE YOU NARROWED IT DOWN THE 417? IS THAT, IS THAT WHERE THE FOUR SEVENTEEN'S COMING FROM? YES, CORRECT. 
          THAT'S SINGLE FAMILY. 
          THAT IS SINGLE FAMILY ONLY. 
          AND ONCE AGAIN, THAT, THAT IS, THAT IS IN A ASSUMED NUMBER BASED UPON THE DATA WE WERE ABLE TO, TO ACQUIRE. 
          SO I, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO GET THIS DONE 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I'M, I'M PROBABLY NOT INTERESTED IN ADDING ANOTHER EMPLOYEE. 
          WE'RE ADDING SEVEN WITH THIS BUDGET AND IT TOOK ME A LITTLE WHILE TO GET COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. 
          BUT WHAT I DO THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO IS, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTIAL MARKETS SOMEWHAT SLOW RESIDENTIAL, REAL ESTATE MARKET, SOMEWHAT SLOW. 
          THERE'S PROBABLY INSPECTORS OUT THERE THAT WE COULD FIND THAT COULD HELP YOU. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE OF THE FOUR 17, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THAT FIRST INSPECTION'S PROBABLY GONNA BE THE ROUGHEST. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE SOME THINGS THAT, UM, ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AND MAYBE THE FOLLOWING INSPECTION WILL BE A LOT EASIER. 
          AND FOR THAT REASON, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO ADD AN EMPLOYEE, BUT I WOULD CONSIDER SOMETHING THAT WOULD POSSIBLY GET YOU SOME TEMPORARY HELP. 
          THERE. 
          THERE, THERE ARE A, A TON OF RESIDENTIAL INSPECTORS THAT, THAT I USE IN MY EVERYDAY EMPLOYMENT THERE. 
          A LOT OF THEM ARE JUST GUYS WITH TRUCKS THAT REALLY, REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND, UM, THAT COULD BE ABLE TO HELP YOU OUT. 
          SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND LESLIE, SO BACK TO THIS RENTAL REGISTRATION FEE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT'S $115. 
          CORRECT. 
          S THAT IS FOR SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY. 
          AND, AND WE LOOKED AT THE COMPARATOR CITIES LIKE THE WATER, WE WERE KIND OF ON THE LOW END OF THAT SPECTRUM. 
          CORRECT. 
          WHEN ARE WE ADDRESSING RAISING THE FEE IN 27 PRIOR TO 27 IN THIS FISCAL BUDGET? UM, I MEAN, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          SO THAT FEE, UM, TO GIVE YOU A, JUST A LITTLE BACK BIT OF BACKGROUND, THAT FEE WAS ADOPTED IN NOVEMBER OF 2024, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. 
          AND THAT FEE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL FEE. 
          UM, BUT STAFF'S HAPPY TO BRING THAT BACK FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          I LIKE THIS. 
          HAVE A DISCUSSION 'CAUSE IT IT AT $115 OR 417 UNITS, IT'S 47,955. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT'S POCKET CHANGE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 417 UNREGISTERED RENTALS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO I WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER THAT AS A COUNCIL. 
          UM, THAT WAS MY BIG QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OR THE LEVEL OF COLLECTION, I GUESS IS THE, THE CONSIDERATION. 
          YOU SAID YOU GO BACK A SECOND TIME WITH POLICE AND BODY CAM? NO, UH, WITH, WE, WE HAVE TWO CODE OFFICERS. 
          IF IT'S AN OCCUPIED UNIT, WE DO NOT, UM, ENTER THE, THE PREMISES SOLO WITHOUT POLICE. 
          NO. 
          UH, OUR CODE OFFICERS, THEY GO TOGETHER. 
          SO IT'S LIKE A, A A TEAM, BUT WE DON'T USE, UH, I MEAN IF, IF NECESSARY WE WILL CALL FOR SUPPORT. 
          WHEN, WHEN DID THE POLICE JOIN IN WITH BODY CAM OR WAS IT OUR CODE? NO, WE HAVE BODY CAMS. OH, OUR, OUR CODE OFFICERS HAVE BODY CAMS. YES. 
          SORRY. 
          THANK, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. 
          I'M, I'M GOOD ON THE REST. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DARREN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON THIS? YEAH, SO MARLON, THAT'S THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT TO BRING UP. 
          THAT'S, THAT IS A LOT. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE TALK ABOUT A LOT OF APARTMENTS AND YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF, UH, CHANGE THAT BRINGS TO POPULATION AND STUFF. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S A NEGATIVE THING. 
          UH, BUT, UM, RENTALS ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR. 
          UM, AND BECAUSE THEY'RE UNMANAGED, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE INDIVIDUAL OWNERS THAT OWN THAT. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT WHENEVER YOU HAVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS THERE. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS PROCESS AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OTHER CODE ENFORCEMENT ON SOME OF THIS REDEVELOPMENT, UM, VACANT LOTS, YOU KNOW, BETTER DONE AS WELL. 
          AND THEN THE STR IS GONNA ADD MORE. 
          UM, I'M MORE LEANING TOWARDS A MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT, UH, 'CAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE KIND OF MORE OF A FULLY BAKED, UM, NEED. 
          AND I THINK IT WILL LIKELY BE CLOSE 
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TO, UM, SELF-SUSTAINING. 
          UH, AS IT AS IT IS NOW WITH THE RENTAL REGISTRATION. 
          UM, I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO, UM, PUTTING RESOURCES TOWARDS IT NOW, WHETHER IT'S A, UH, UH, A NEW POSITION THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO HAVE A NEW POSITION FUNDED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND OR IF IT CAN BE OUT OF A SPECIAL FUND OR LIKE A ONETIME DEC UH, UH, DECISION THAT WE MAKE. 
          IF WE HAVE TO DO THAT, WE COULD USE CONTRACTORS LIKE, UM, CHRIS HAD MENTIONED. 
          SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF IT. 
          UM, I'M, I'M PRETTY OPEN TO, TO WHICH, WHICH ANGLE WE GO, BUT AT LEAST OF A MIDYEAR BUDGET, UM, AMENDMENT AFTER WE REVIEW, UH, THE, THE FULL NEED. 
          IT'S GOOD CATCH. 
          MARLON, DO YOU NEED MORE INPUT ON THIS? OKAY. 
          MARLON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? YES, SIR. 
          I'VE GOT, UH, ONE, ONE LAST THING AND IT'S, AND IT'S, UM, DO WE HAVE A SLIDE FOR, UH, OUR COMPARATOR CITY TAX RATES? THANK YOU, LIZ. 
          WHETHER IT BE, WHETHER IT BE CURRENT OR, OR PROJECTED. 
          UH, I HAD A, I HAVE A SLIDE FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION. 
          IT WAS HIDDEN. 
          IT WAS A HIDDEN SLIDE. 
          I THINK IT'S ALL THE WAY AT THE BOTTOM. 
          THAT ONE. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S NOT IN OUR, OUR IS THAT IN OUR SLIDE PRESENTATION THAT FOR TONIGHT? IT'S NOT. 
          I I ADDED THIS. 
          UH, OKAY, SO WE'RE, I SEE, I, I'M WITH YOU. 
          UM, AND SO YEAH, THE ONLY, THE ONLY POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS, IS WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE THE HIGHEST TAX RATE. 
          AND, AND I LIKE, I REALLY LIKE YOUR THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE MOVING FROM ONE OF THE LOWER, UM, WATER AND SEWER RATES, UM, AND, AND, AND MAYBE GETTING TO A MIDPOINT. 
          AND THEN, UH, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO NOT, NOT BE THE HIGHEST, UH, TAX RATE I LOOK AT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, I'M LASER FOCUSED IN ON WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHERE, WHERE SOME OF OUR OTHER COMPARATOR CITIES ARE UP AND DOWN THE TOLLWAY. 
          UM, SO I'M, I'M LOOKING AT DALLAS, EVEN THOUGH DALLAS IS NOT ON THIS CHART. 
          I'M LOOKING AT PLANO, UM, A LITTLE BIT AT FRISCO. 
          BUT, UM, UM, BUT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO WITH, WITH THE WATER RATES TO, TO MAYBE GET CLOSER TO AVERAGE. 
          BUT, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, I I, I JUST THINK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WHEN WE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEALS, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST RIGHT ALONG THE TOLLWAY. 
          IT'S EITHER IT'S PLANO AND DALLAS, IT'S BOTH, IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER. 
          AND, UH, ANY, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO TO, TO CAUSE OUR TAX RATE, UM, TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPETITIVE WITH THE ONES THAT ARE PAYING WHAT 92% OF THE TAXES IS WHERE MY FOCUS IS. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S, I APPRECIATE YOU, YOU SHOWING THIS AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE MY HEAD IS AS WE GO INTO THIS NEXT, UH, NEXT MEETING. 
          SO THANK YOU RANDY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          I'LL FINISH UP WITH THE LESLIE TOPIC WITH THE, WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. 
          UH, I'M WITH CHRIS. 
          I'M, I'M NOT PREPARED TO ADD ANOTHER POSITION AT THIS POINT, UH, FULL-TIME. 
          THERE ARE SUCH THINGS AS PART-TIME. 
          A LOT OF TOWNS HIRE PART-TIME AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE, UM, UM, BENEFIT PAYMENTS AND IT, IT CERTAINLY LOWERS THE, THE COST OF THAT. 
          SO, UM, I WANT, I WANT GOOD SERVICES, I WANT GOOD QUALITY, BUT I WANT THE BEST FOR OUR TAXES AS WELL. 
          SO IF, IF WE WANNA LOOK AT BRINGING SOMEBODY IN PART-TIME, I, I COULD TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHERE I'D WANNA BE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE TOPIC I WANT TO GO, UM, BACK TO IS THIS FUEL FLOWAGE. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO MADE MY COMMENTS WHILE JAMIE WAS STILL UP HERE, BUT I'LL GO TO IT NOW AND THERE'S NO NEED FOR HIM TO COME BACK UP. 
          UM, TO DARREN'S POINT THAT FUEL SALES ARE A, A LARGE PART OF THE FBOS INCOME, COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT ADDISON'S INCOME ON THIS AS WELL. 
          THESE FBOS HAVE CERTAINLY GONE UP ON THEIR FUEL PRICES. 
          THE SUPPLIERS HAVE GONE UP ON THEIR SUPPLY THAT THEY'RE SELLING. 
          UH, IT'S, IT'S TIME FOR US TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE AND START LOOKING AT IF WE'RE, IF WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING IT AS A FLOW FEE FLOW RATE FEE, UH, TO, TO LOOK AT INCREASING THAT, THAT'S BEEN THERE THIS LONG. 
          AND I CERTAINLY WASN'T TALKING ABOUT WHEN I TALKED ABOUT, WHEN I MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT LOOKING AT O THE WAY OTHER AIRPORTS DO THIS. 
          I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT DECATUR, 
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I WAS TALKING ABOUT AIRPORTS THAT SERVE THE CORPORATE AIRCRAFT JUST AS WE DO AND TO SEE WHERE WE CAN GET THIS. 
          UM, I AM FOCUSED, I LOVE THIS AIRPORT, BUT WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT WAYS THAT IT'S STARTING TO HELP THE CITY AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, THAT, THAT IS JUST A, AN AREA THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND SEE IF WE CAN INCREASE OUR BOTTOM LINE ALONG WITH EVERYBODY ELSE ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU RANDY. 
          AND, AND THAT'S A VALID POINT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD FROM TIME TO TIME OVER THE YEARS AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN, UH, PAYING ATTENTION AND IT'S, UH, BUT WE'VE JUST NEVER MOVED FORWARD WITH IT. 
          SO I EXPECT WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN THE FAIRLY NEAR FUTURE AND THAT WILL BE AN APPRECIATED CONVERSATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, STEVEN, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU. 
          I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE'S LIGHT ON, SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ABOUT TO WRAP UP HERE. 
          UM, DARREN, GO AHEAD THEN. 
          SO IT'S REALLY JUST KIND OF A, A SUMMARY THOUGHT. 
          UH, I JUST WANNA COMMEND, UH, THE STAFF AND, AND DAVID GAINES FOR LISTENING TO US AND WE LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS ABOUT WHAT THIS BUDGET LOOKS LIKE AND NOT JUST, UH, TRIMMING THINGS, BUT, BUT PUTTING THE MONEY WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO AND MAKING THE INVESTMENT WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO. 
          I THINK IT'S A THOUGHTFUL BUDGET. 
          YOU'VE LISTENED TO US, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, WE TALK ABOUT BUSINESS FRIENDLY. 
          UM, THE BUDGET'S. 
          LEAN IS LEAN. 
          IT'S AN EASIER BUDGET TO DIGEST 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT INCREASING MANY THINGS. 
          UM, AND, AND REALLY DID PREPARE US IN DETAIL, UH, ALONG THE WAY. 
          MADE IT REALLY EASY TO DIGEST AND POINTING OUT. 
          UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND IS OUR MARK IS, I SAY MARKETING, SALES AND MARKETING FUND IF, IF YOU WILL, ALONG WITH MARKETING. 
          AND, UM, IT'S 6% OF OUR, UM, OF OUR GENERAL FUND. 
          IF TWO AND A HALF CENTS ON 43 ISH CENTS IS 6%, I I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT KIND OF INVESTMENT. 
          I THINK IT'S A SMART THING THAT WE HAVE TO DO AS ADDISON BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF COMPETITION OUT THERE. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO COMMENT, UH, I'VE DONE THIS FOUR TIMES AND UH, SOME PEOPLE HAVE DONE IT MORE. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S WELL DONE. 
          SO, AND, AND STEVEN, YOU ALWAYS DELIVER IT TO WHERE EVEN I CAN UNDERSTAND. 
          SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT AND EVERYBODY'S, ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WORK ON, ON THIS, SO THANK YOU ALL. 
          GREAT BUDGET. 
          THANKS DARREN. 
          SAY IT AGAIN TOO NEXT TIME. 
          YEAH, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, STEVEN, THAT ARE KIND OF A SIMILAR, THEY'RE BOTH BASICALLY THE SAME QUESTIONS SORT OF, UH, COULD YOU JUMP BACK TO SLIDE EIGHT PLEASE? SO IT IS NOT A, IT'S NOT A BIG CHANGE, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGES FROM THE LAST THREE AND IT JUST, BY THE APPEARANCE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S TRENDING DOWN A LITTLE BIT. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO IN A BIG WAY? IS IT IS OR IS IT JUST A DEVIATION? IT, IT'S NOT AND REALLY THE, WE'RE NOT DRAWING DOWN DOLLAR WISE BECAUSE THE EXPENDITURES ARE GOING UP AND WE'RE NOT REALLY ADDING TO THE FUND BALANCE THAT THAT PERCENTAGE IS GOING DOWN. 
          SO THE ACTUAL FUND BALANCE DOLLAR WISE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS NOT GOING DOWN. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, SAY OUR ESTIMATE FOR THIS YEAR, WE'RE ADDING ABOUT $250,000 TO THE FUND BALANCE. 
          BUT YOU LOOK AT NEXT YEAR OUR EXPENDITURES ARE GOING UP A LITTLE BIT AND WE ARE BUDGETING THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY ADDING ANYTHING TO FUND BALANCE. 
          WE'VE GOT 40,000. 
          SO, SO IT, IT SHOWS AS A, AS A PERCENTAGE DRAW DOWN, BUT DOLLAR WISE, IT'S, IT'S NOT A DRAW DOWN. 
          WHEN UH, WHEN, WHEN I LOOK AT THE 10 YEAR PROJECTION THAT WE DO, THE 10 YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN, UH, WE BASICALLY STAY CLOSE DOLLAR WISE IS WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          BUT THE PERCENTAGE DOES COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT STILL WELL ABOVE WHAT OUR POLICY REQUIREMENT IS. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE THE POLICY IS 25%, IS THAT RIGHT? POLICY IS 25% AND THERE'S A, A STATED GOAL OF 30%. 
          30%? YES. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          STILL SIGNIFICANTLY ABOVE THAT. 
          SO YES. 
          VERY NICE. 
          THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS SIMILAR GOING TO SLIDE 20 ON THE HOTEL FUND AT THE SAME LINE ON THE, UH, FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE. 
          THAT ONE SEEMS TO BE KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF A ROLLER COASTER. 
          IS THERE, IS THERE A REASON WHY THAT HAPPENS? LIKE THAT? IT, IT CAN BE THE, THE BIG THING IN THE HOTEL FUND IS THAT THAT INCLUDES THAT WAY FINDING SIGNAGE PROJECT. 
          SO THE REAL DRAWDOWN AND IT'S REALLY A PLANNED DRAWDOWN BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING UH, ABOUT, I GUESS IT'S 1.5, $1.6 MILLION IS WHAT'S BUDGETED FOR THAT PROJECT. 
          SO THAT'S MONEY COMING OUT OF FUND BALANCE. 
          SO ON THE RECURRING BASIS, OUR OPERATING REVENUE IS EXCEEDING WHAT WE SPEND, UH, TO OPERATE THE SPECIAL EVENTS AND MARKETING AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          IT'S REALLY THAT TARGETED DRAW DOWN IS WHY YOU SEE IT COME DOWN. 
          GOT IT. 
          AND THAT DOES IT, THAT DOES LOOK QUITE HEALTHY THOUGH COMPARED TO IF I, IF I LOOK BACK 11, 12 YEARS AGO, WE WERE WORRIED THAT THE HOTEL FUND WAS GONNA EVEN SURVIVE. 
          SO, UH, SO I THINK WE'RE DOING QUITE WELL. 
          YOU GOTTA COMMENT ON, I JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT ON THE GENERAL FUND POINT 'CAUSE IT KIND OF TIES A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS TOGETHER TODAY. 
          ONE OF THE REASONS IT'S STAYING STEADY IS BECAUSE AS WE'RE HAVING THAT 7% INCREASE EVERY YEAR IN SALES TAX AND OTHER REVENUES, WE'RE NOT HAVING THAT JUST GO TO FUND BALANCE. 
          WE'RE SENDING THAT OVER TO THE SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND, WHICH IS PRUDENT 
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PRACTICE. 
          AND SO THAT'S ALLOWING US TO DO ALL THESE ONE TIME PROJECTS INSTEAD OF HAVING IT JUST GO TO FUND BALANCE. 
          GOT IT. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? NO, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU STEVEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WITH THAT IT IS, UH, 7 45 AND WE'RE ADJOURNED FOR THE EVENING, MAYOR, THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          OH, THAT'S IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF. 
          THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. 
          SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NOW IT'S 7 45. 
          STILL WE'RE ADJOURNED.
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