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          ALL RIGHT. 
          [Call to Order]
GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. 
          IT IS 9 0 7 ON SATURDAY, AUGUST 8TH, 2026. 
          THEN WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL. 
          THIS IS OUR BUDGET WORK SESSION FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 26, 27, AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT THIS MORNING WITH SIX COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT. 
          AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, SMITH HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY THIS MORNING, AND SO HOPEFULLY HE'LL BE ABLE TO JOIN US A LITTLE BIT LATER. 
          UH, BUT, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND, AND, UH, GIVING UP YOUR SATURDAY, UH, COUNCIL AND ALL THE STAFF THAT ARE HERE AS WELL. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UH, WE'D LIKE TO START OUR MEETING WITH THE PLEDGE TO BOTH OF OUR FLAGS, IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. 
          ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. 
          I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING A VERY PRODUCTIVE DAY TODAY, AND WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          CITY. 
          CITY, THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY, ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA. 
          COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS, AND CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW. 
          COUNSEL'S NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, AND COUNSEL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. 
          UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SAYING NONE. 
          WE'LL CLOSE ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVE ON TO ITEM 
          [a. Present and discuss the Proposed Annual Budget for the Town of Addison for Fiscal Year 2027 (Beginning October 1, 2026, and Ending September 30, 2027), including, but not limited to, the General Fund, Utility Fund, Stormwater Fund, Airport Fund, Hotel Fund, Economic Development Fund, Information Technology Fund, Capital Replacement Fund, Infrastructure Investment Fund, and long-term planning.]
NUMBER FOUR, OUR WORK SESSION FOUR A PRESENT AND DISCUSS THE PROPOSED ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027, BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2026, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE GENERAL FUND, UTILITY FUND, STORMWATER FUND, AIRPORT FUND, HOTEL FUND, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FUND, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY FUND, CAPITAL REPLACEMENT FUND, INFRASTRUCTURE, INFRASTRUCTURE, INVESTMENT FUND, AND LONG-TERM PLANNING. 
          GOOD MORNING, STEVEN. 
          I'M GONNA, I'LL JUST SAY A COUPLE WORDS, MAYOR. 
          YES. 
          BEFORE GET STARTED. 
          UM, AS ALWAYS, WE LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT AS WE GO INTO THE BUDGET TO THANK ALL OF OUR STAFF ACROSS, UM, THE ORGANIZATION, CERTAINLY OUR FINANCE AND BUDGET STAFF, BUT REALLY EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT AS WE TALK ABOUT FREQUENTLY. 
          THIS IS A YEAR LONG EFFORT COMING TO THE BUDGET, AND I THINK WE ARE IN A VERY GOOD SPOT. 
          I AM, DON'T WANNA STEAL, UM, STEVEN'S THUNDER HERE IN THE FIRST FEW SLIDES FOR THE OVERVIEW, BUT I WILL SAY I THINK WE ARE PROUD THAT THIS IS A RESPONSIBLE BUDGET, PARTICULARLY ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE. 
          UM, DESPITE HAVING THE, THE IMPACT OF THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM, WE ARE ABLE TO LOWER THE TAX RATE ONCE SIM AND THAT'S BY RESPONSIBLE BUDGETING. 
          THAT'S BY CONTINUING TO LOOK AT BECOMING MORE EFFICIENT WHILE PROVIDING THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          UH, STEVEN WILL GO OVER OUR THIRD YEAR OF, OF THAT PROGRAM, WHICH WE'RE REALLY SEEING THE FRUITS OF THAT, AND IT'S BY FOCUSING ON OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES BEFORE WE LOOK TO ADD NEW RESOURCES. 
          AND SO WE WILL GO OVER THAT AS WELL. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO APPLAUD STAFF FOR TAKING ALL THOSE THINGS, ALL THOSE, UM, INITIATIVES SERIOUSLY AND, UM, BRINGING THIS BUDGET BEFORE YOU TODAY. 
          SO, STEVEN, WITH THAT, TAKE IT AWAY. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD LITERALLY APPLAUD THE STAFF FOR DOING ALL THE HARD WORK THAT DID. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          MAYOR, CAN I ASK A MAYOR? YES. 
          CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION ON THESE PRESENTATIONS? DO WE WANT TO LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION AND THEN HOLD OUR QUESTIONS UNTIL AFTER THE PRESENTATION'S OVER? IS THAT THAT THE FLOW? OR DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH, WE WANT TO STOP DURING THE PRESENTATION, ASK QUESTION. 
          SEEMS LIKE THERE WILL BE SOME NATURAL STOPPING POINTS ALONG THE WAY. 
          AND SO INSTEAD OF INTERRUPTING THE PRESENTATION, MAYBE YOU GET TO A POINT THAT, UH, YOU CAN, UH, ASK FOR QUESTIONS IF THAT'S OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S TRUE. 
          I THINK YOU'LL SEE THE NATURAL STOPPING POINTS, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE GET TO DECISION PACKAGES AND THE INDIVIDUAL DIRECTORS COME UP. 
          CERTAINLY ASK THOSE QUESTIONS THERE. 
          AND I DID WANNA POINT OUT TO COUNCIL AS WELL. 
          IN THE ONEDRIVE, WE HAVE A, A NUMBER OF EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT ALSO HAD THEIR OWN PRESENTATION, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE DID NOT GET TIME TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL, BUT A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO THOSE AS WELL. 
          SO THOSE ARE RESOURCES FOR YOU. 
          EACH ONE OF THEIR BUDGETS, THEY TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED LAST YEAR, WHAT THEY PLAN TO ACCOMPLISH NEXT YEAR, AND MORE DETAIL ON THEIR BUDGET. 
          SO, UM, NOT A BIG DEAL THAT WE DIDN'T GET TO PRESENT THOSE, BUT THEY ARE THERE AS A RESOURCE FOR YOU, RIGHT, STEVEN? GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          STEVEN GLITMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. 
          AND I WILL ADD THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL, UH, STOPPING POINTS. 
          UM, THERE'S SOME NATURAL STOPPING POINTS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS SLIDES WHERE WE'LL CERTAINLY ASK YOU, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT JUST, UH, WHAT WE JUST WENT OVER. 
          UH, SO HAPPY 
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SATURDAY. 
          HAPPY BUDGET WORKSHOP DAY. 
          UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE. 
          UH, WE HAVE, UH, A FUN FILLED DAY OF, UH, OF BUDGETS AND DEPARTMENTS AND, AND LOTS OF, LOTS OF THINGS TO GO OVER. 
          UM, SO, UH, I'VE KIND OF GOT AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT OUR OBJECTIVES ARE FOR TODAY. 
          SO JUST AN OVERVIEW OF OUR BUDGET PROCESS. 
          UM, AND SOME OF THESE THINGS WE KIND OF WENT OVER WHEN WE, WE HAD A BRIEF DISCUSSION, UM, I THINK, UH, EARLY JULY. 
          SO BUDGET PRIORITIES AND FINANCIAL ASSUMPTIONS. 
          UH, OUR RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION EFFORTS, UH, THE BUDGET PRESENTATION FOR ALL OF OUR MAJOR FUNDS, AND THOSE ARE OUR GENERAL FUND, UH, THE UTILITY FUND, THE AIRPORT FUND, THE HOTEL FUND, AND THE STORMWATER FUND. 
          UH, ALL OF THE DECISION PACKAGES. 
          AND THEN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, PROGRAM. 
          SO OUR BUDGET CALENDAR. 
          SO I DID SHOW THIS WHEN WE, WHEN WE, UH, TALKED ABOUT A MONTH AGO. 
          UM, SO IT REALLY STARTS WITH YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING EFFORTS IN, UH, EARLY CALENDAR YEAR. 
          UH, BASED ON THAT, WE START PREPARING THE BUDGET. 
          UH, WE HAVE A BUDGET KICKOFF IN MARCH, AND THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE DEPARTMENTS START PREPARING THEIR BUDGETS. 
          WE GIVE THEM ABOUT SIX WEEKS TO GET THEIR BUDGETS PREPARED. 
          UM, THEN WE WORK WITH THEM ON THEIR PRESENTATIONS, WHICH DAVID MENTIONED. 
          ALL OF THOSE ARE IN YOUR ONEDRIVE, UH, FOLDER. 
          UH, THEY PRESENT THEIR BUDGETS TO THE CITY MANAGER, UH, IN MAY. 
          UH, WE MAKE SOME DECISIONS AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE MAKES SOME DECISIONS ON, UH, THOSE BUDGETS. 
          UH, WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL. 
          WE HAD, UH, ONE IN JUNE ABOUT, UH, UTILITY RATES. 
          WE HAD ANOTHER, UH, BRIEF DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, THE BUDGET INTRODUCTION IN JULY. 
          UH, THEN JULY, IT REALLY GETS BUSY BECAUSE WE GET, UH, OUR CERTIFIED VALUES FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. 
          THEY HAVE TO GET THOSE TO US BY JULY 25TH. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A SHORT TURNAROUND BECAUSE OUR CHARTER REQUIRES, UH, THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE THAT PROPOSED BUDGET BY JULY 31ST. 
          UM, SO WE GOT THE, UH, APPRAISED VALUES ON JULY 24TH OF FRIDAY. 
          AND THEN THAT NEXT FRIDAY, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT, UH, FINAL PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND, UH, FILED WITH THE CITY SECRETARY. 
          UH, WE REVIEW THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL PLAN IN JULY, AND THEN WE GET TO AUGUST. 
          WE'RE HERE TODAY, UH, AT THE, UH, BUDGET WORK SESSION. 
          UH, ANY DISCUSSIONS ARISING FROM TODAY'S WORK SESSION. 
          WE'LL HAVE, UH, FOLLOW UPS, UH, POTENTIALLY ON TUESDAY AND THEN, UH, AT YOUR NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS, UH, IN AUGUST. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'LL GET TO SEPTEMBER. 
          WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT A SPECIAL MEETING, UH, TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST. 
          UH, THEN WE'LL HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, UH, ON, UH, YOUR REGULAR MEETING TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH. 
          AND, UH, AT THAT MEETING, YOU WILL HAVE THE, UM, OPTION TO, UH, CONSIDER THE TAX RATE AND THE BUDGET FOR ADOPTION. 
          THEN OUR FISCAL YEAR BEGINS OCTOBER 1ST, AND THAT NEW BUDGET BEGINS. 
          UH, WE FINALIZE, UH, THAT BUDGET BOOK, AND THEN WE GET AUDITED AND WE START THE WHOLE PROCESS OVER AGAIN. 
          SO, AS DAVID MENTIONED, IT REALLY IS A YEAR LONG PROCESS. 
          UH, AND I KIND OF MENTIONED THIS, BUT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE APPROVAL PROCESS FOLLOWS ALONG WITH THIS PROCESS. 
          SO, AS I MENTIONED, WE GOT OUR, OUR VALUES ON JULY 24TH. 
          UH, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, UH, THEY POST THE TAX RATES ON THEIR WEBSITE, UH, AND, UH, ON, UH, AUGUST 7TH. 
          UH, THAT'S A PRELIMINARY DATE, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THEY GOT THOSE UP YESTERDAY OR NOT. 
          UH, WE WILL HAVE A, UH, NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING THAT GETS PUBLISHED, UH, FRIDAY, AUGUST 21ST. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED, WE'LL HAVE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, SEPTEMBER 1ST, SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, SEPTEMBER 2ND. 
          AND THEN THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR BEGINS ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 1ST. 
          SO, CITY COUNCIL KEY FOCUS AREAS. 
          SO AS I MENTIONED, THE BUDGET IS REALLY BUILT AROUND THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING EFFORT THAT THE COUNCIL DOES, UH, EARLY IN THE CALENDAR YEAR. 
          UM, AND THE, THE DECISION PACKAGES THAT YOU'LL SEE, UH, TODAY ARE ALL FOCUSED ON ONE OF THESE FOCUS AREAS. 
          SO THESE ARE, UH, THE ONES THAT ARE ONGOING FROM THE CURRENT BUDGET YEAR. 
          UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE WAS A LOT THAT WAS FOCUSED ON INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTENANCE, UH, IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. 
          UH, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT I'LL JUST HIT ON A COUPLE OF THESE LAST YEAR, OR, OR THE, FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, THERE WAS THE MARKET-BASED STEP PLAN IMPLEMENTATION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          UH, THERE WAS THE AUTHORIZATION OF A TOURS DISTRICT, WHICH COUNCIL JUST ACCOMPLISHED THAT AT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING, UH, FOR THE ADDISON JUNCTION AREA. 
          UH, THE PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX, UH, WAS APPROVED IN, IN THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          UH, AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, UH, AS WELL THAT WERE, THAT WERE, UH, APPROVED IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          AND GOING FORWARD TO 2027, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT AGAIN, THESE, UM, ITEMS THAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR TODAY, UH, AS FAR AS DECISION PACKAGE AND SOME OTHER INITIATIVES ARE ALL TIED TO THAT STRATEGIC PLAN THAT YOU CAME UP WITH ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO. 
          UM, SO I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO ALL OF THESE BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA SEE ALL OF THESE, UM, AS, 
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AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          BUT, UH, JUST SOME OF THESE ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE AND COURTS FACILITY DESIGN, UH, FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THE BONDS THAT WERE APPROVED BY VOTERS, UH, IN MAY. 
          UM, AGAIN, THE ADDISON JUNCTION PROJECT, YOU'RE GONNA, UH, SEE THAT PROBABLY, UH, FOR YEARS TO COME. 
          UM, CONTINUATION OF ADDISON ORBIT MICRO TRANSIT PROGRAM. 
          UM, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS, AGAIN IN INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTENANCE. 
          A LOT OF THESE ARE, ARE PEDESTRIAN PROJECTS. 
          A LOT OF THESE, UM, ARE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE WORKS. 
          PROBABLY. 
          UH, THE ONE I'M EXCITED ABOUT IS THE, UH, WATER METER MODERNIZATION PROJECT. 
          UH, WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, UNDER FINANCIAL HEALTH AND ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE, UH, RE AS DAVID MENTIONED, REDUCE THE TAX RATE, UH, BY 1 CENT, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE JUST, UH, FINALIZED THE, UH, ONBOARDING OF THE DEBT SERVICE FOR THAT 2019 BOND PROGRAM. 
          UH, SEVERAL ITEMS RELATED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, VIBRANT, ACTIVE AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY. 
          AND THE ADDISON AIRPORT, THAT BEING A NEW, UH, KEY FOCUS AREA, THERE'S SEVERAL ITEMS THERE AS WELL. 
          AND ALL OF THOSE WILL GO OVER IN MORE DETAIL, UH, LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. 
          UH, SO RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION. 
          SO I DID PROVIDE THIS SLIDE WHEN WE, UH, HAD A MEETING, UH, ABOUT A MONTH AGO. 
          UM, SO REALLY THIS IS AN EFFORT FOR US TO FIND WAYS TO OPERATE MORE EFFICIENTLY IF WE CAN SAVE MONEY, SAVE TIME, UH, USE OUR RESOURCES MOST EFFECTIVELY. 
          UH, THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE, THE POINT OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS. 
          SO IT'S A COMMITTEE OF TOWN STAFF, UH, PROVIDED BY, UH, THE DIRECTORS OF EACH DEPARTMENT. 
          THEY NOMINATE SOMEBODY TO SERVE EACH YEAR. 
          UH, WE ALSO GET IDEAS FROM ALL EMPLOYEES AROUND TOWN. 
          SO WE HAVE, UH, QR CODES THAT THEY CAN ANONYMOUSLY OR ANONYMOUSLY SUBMIT ITEMS THAT THEY WANT TO THROUGHOUT THE, UH, PROCESS. 
          UH, WE ALSO ASK OUR DEPARTMENTS AND THEIR BUDGET PROCESS TO IDENTIFY SAVINGS AND EFFICIENCIES, UH, THROUGHOUT, UH, THEIR BUDGET PREPARATION PROCESS. 
          AND THEN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, ULTIMATELY END UP IN THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          SO, WITH THAT SAID, UH, THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, UH, PROPOSED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. 
          AND THESE ARE NOW IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          SO I'LL GO OVER THESE. 
          UH, SO CITY SECRETARY ELIMINATED SURVEYMONKEY ACCOUNT, UH, $500 SAVINGS, UH, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. 
          WHEN WE MOVED OVER TO THE NEW FACILITY, WE ELIMINATED, UH, ONE OF OUR COPIERS, UH, 'CAUSE YOU DON'T NEED TO PRINT A LOT ANYMORE. 
          UH, SO THAT HAS A RECURRING SAVINGS OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          UH, THE NEW TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, THEY SELECTED, UH, THE TOWNS FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO DO THEIR FINANCES FOR THEM. 
          UH, THAT'S 54,500 IN REVENUE THAT IS GOING INTO THE HOTEL FUND, UH, FOR THAT, AS OPPOSED TO GOING TO AN OUTSOURCE COMPANY. 
          UH, THE COURT, UH, IMPLEMENTED A FEE-BASED CREDIT CARD PROCESSING, UH, WHICH SAVES $6,500 IN COST RECOVERY. 
          UH, THEY ALSO CHARGE OVERTIME ON GUILTY JUDGMENTS NOW, WHICH IS ALLOWED BY LAW, WHICH, UH, RECOVERS ABOUT $2,000 IN OVERTIME COST. 
          UH, SEVERAL ITEMS FOR THE IT DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, THEY SHIFTED THEIR IT DISASTER RECOVERY, UH, TO THE ALLEN DATA CENTER. 
          THAT'S A $54,700 ANNUAL SAVINGS, UH, WITH THE FLOCK, UH, LPR SYSTEM, UH, THAT HAS SOME BUILT IN, UH, DATA CARDS. 
          THEY WERE ABLE TO REDUCE SOME, SOME EXISTING DATA CARDS THAT WE HAVE ON THE, ON THE PREVIOUS SYSTEM. 
          THAT'S A SAVINGS OF ALMOST $17,000. 
          UH, THEY CHANGED OUR PHONE SYSTEM TO A VOICEOVER IP SYSTEM, UH, SAVINGS JUST OVER $52,000. 
          UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DID TWO, UH, WAS ABLE TO IN-HOUSE TWO TRAININGS THAT THEY PREVIOUSLY, UH, WERE PAYING FOR. 
          ONE IS, UH, AERIAL LADDER TRAINING, UH, $4,620. 
          UH, ONE IS THEIR SCBA, UH, MASKS. 
          UH, THE FIT TESTING FOR THOSE $5,000. 
          UH, MARKETING DEPARTMENT CHANGED THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA ARCHIVING SERVICE, UH, $1,547. 
          AND THERE WERE SOME CHANGE IN CHANGES IN THE WAY THAT WE DO OVERTIME FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          UH, $82,000. 
          UH, THEATER IS IMPLEMENTING FULL FACILITY RENTALS AT THE ADDISON. 
          UH, SO THAT WILL BRING IN $15,000 IN REVENUE. 
          ON THE REVENUE SIDE. 
          UH, THE AIRPORT CONTRACTED FOR CUSTOMS FEE COLLECTION SERVICES. 
          UH, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE, UH, AIRPLANES THAT DON'T PAY THROUGH OUR KIOSK ARE REALLY HARD TO TRACK DOWN. 
          UH, SO THEY GOT A SERVICE THAT IS MUCH BETTER AT DOING THAT THAN, THAN WE ARE. 
          UH, AND THAT'S, UH, ALMOST AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $50,000 IN REVENUE. 
          UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RENEGOTIATED THEIR PLACER AI CONTRACT AND REDUCED THAT BY $10,000. 
          AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS BROUGHT IN TWO, UH, ITEMS IN-HOUSE THAT THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY CONTRACTING FOR, UH, THE PUBLIC WORK. 
          UH, THE, UH, 
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FIRE HYDRANT PAINTING, A $42,000, UH, CONTRACT ELIMINATION. 
          AND THEN, UH, FIRE HYDRANT TESTING IS A $62,000, UH, CONTRACT ELIMINATION. 
          AND ONE THING THAT YOU'LL SEE IS A, UH, A DECISION PACKAGE THAT IS IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS, UH, HVAC, UH, AND HVAC, UH, TECHNICIAN, UM, UH, POSITION. 
          AND THAT ACTUALLY REDUCES, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO OUTSOURCE THAT, UH, HVAC MAINTENANCE THAT REDUCES OUR ANNUAL, UH, BUDGET BY ALMOST $30,000. 
          AND THEN ONE ITEM, AND THIS ITEM WILL REQUIRE, UH, COUNCIL, SOME COUNCIL ACTION, UH, IS TO CHANGE OUR NEWSPAPER OF RECORD. 
          WE CURRENTLY, UH, COUNSEL HAS SELECTED DALLAS MORNING NEWS AS OUR NEWSPAPER OF RECORD. 
          UH, THEY DID THAT BACK IN 2009, I BELIEVE. 
          UH, WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO CHANGE THAT, UM, TO A CHEAPER, UH, NEWSPAPER OF RECORD THAT WILL SAVE US ABOUT $13,500. 
          UH, WE ARE REQUIRED TO PUT CERTAIN PUBLIC NOTICES IN A NEWSPAPER. 
          UM, TO BE FAIR, NO, NOBODY'S REALLY GETTING THESE NOTICES THROUGH THE NEWSPAPER. 
          UM, SO IT WOULD REALLY BE A COUNCIL, UH, DECISION ON IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT. 
          BUT WE CAN SAVE SOME MONEY IF WE DO WANT TO DO A CHEAPER OPTION. 
          SO, OVERALL, UH, PROPOSED SAVINGS THAT ARE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, ALMOST $503,000. 
          AND THESE ARE RECURRING SAVINGS. 
          UH, SO SOME ITEMS THAT, THAT WERE ONE TIME ITEMS THAT THESE DEPARTMENTS ACCOMPLISHED THIS YEAR, UH, THAT SAVED MONEY, UH, IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET, UH, PUBLIC WORKS WAS ABLE TO, UH, DO SOME IN-HOUSE REPAIRS, WHICH THEY NORMALLY WOULD HAVE OUTSOURCED, UH, SAVINGS OF ABOUT $243,000. 
          AS I MENTIONED, FINANCE ELIMINATED A COPIER. 
          UH, THE REPLACEMENT OF THAT COPIER WILL NO LONGER COST US $7,600 WHEN THAT HAS TO BE REPLACED. 
          UH, WE OPTIMIZED, UH, THE MOVE, UH, THAT WE JUST DID FROM THE OLD FINANCE BUILDING, UH, TO THE, UH, NEW TOWN HALL AND SAVED, UH, $7,500 FROM THE QUOTE THAT WE HAD RECEIVED. 
          UH, THE HVAC CERTIFICATION, AS I MENTIONED, THAT'LL BE A DECISION PACKAGE COMING UP, BUT THAT IS ALREADY IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, SAVED ABOUT $50,000 IN, UH, NOT HAVING TO, TO CALL OUT A CONTRACTOR TO DO SOME WORK, UH, THAT THAT WAS ABLE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED IN HOUSE. 
          UH, GENERAL SERVICES HAS REUSED SOME FURNITURE, UH, THROUGHOUT TOWN, UH, WHICH NEW FURNITURE WOULD'VE COST, UH, ABOUT $115,000. 
          UH, A CRANE TRUCK, UH, PURCHASE THAT WAS, UH, ABLE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, UH, WAS $54,000 LESS THAN, UH, WHAT IT WOULD'VE BE, WOULD'VE COST HAD WE, UH, GONE, UH, THROUGH WITH IT IN THE, UH, SUBSEQUENT FISCAL YEAR. 
          UH, GENERAL SERVICES HAS DONE SOME, SOME OF THEIR, UM, DECOMMISSIONING OF POLICE VEHICLES, UH, MORE IN-HOUSE, WHICH HAS SAVED ABOUT $17,000, UH, THIS YEAR. 
          UH, HR GOT A CREDIT FROM BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD OF TEXAS THIS YEAR, UH, OF $60,000. 
          UH, THEY ALSO GOT A WELLNESS EVENT SPONSOR FOR $500. 
          AND THEN A, UH, CHANGE THE ON THE SPOT VENUE CHANGE, WHICH SAVED $300. 
          UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT GOT THE, UH, LICENSE PLATE READER NETWORK, UH, GRANT, UH, $237,000 ON THAT. 
          AND ALSO GOT A VEHICLE BARRIER GRANT, UH, OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          AND THEN THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT AND GENERAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, ALSO ABLE TO UTILIZE THE, UH, BUILT-IN STORAGE THAT COMES, UH, STOCK ON THE, UH, DODGE DURANGO VEHICLES RATHER THAN, UH, THE OUTSOURCED OR, OR, UM, UH, VERSION, UH, WHICH SAVED $38,000. 
          SO THOSE ARE SOME ONE-TIME SAVINGS, UH, THAT, THAT HAPPENED IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, IS AFFECTING THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET. 
          AND THEN THOSE RECURRING ONES, WE'LL SEE, HOPEFULLY EVERY FISCAL YEAR GOING FORWARD, INCLUDING IN FISCAL YEAR 2027. 
          SO, BUDGET ASSUMPTION. 
          SO I DID SHARE THIS INFORMATION, UH, WHEN WE TALKED, UH, IN EARLY JULY, BUT DAVID KIND OF WENT OVER THIS, HIS, HIS PRIORITIES WERE, TAKE CARE AND MAINTAIN WHAT WE'VE GOT, MAINTAIN A CONSERVATIVE FISCAL APPROACH, UH, ENSURE ALIGNMENT OF DEPARTMENT NEEDS WITH COUNCIL PRIORITIES. 
          AND I KIND OF SHOWED YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS THE, UH, UH, STRATEGIC PLAN AND WHAT THOSE, UH, DECISION PACKAGES AND INITIATIVES AND HOW THOSE LINE UP WITH THAT. 
          AND THEN IDENTIFY, ANALYZE, AND IMPLEMENT MEASURES TO DECREASE COSTS AND IMPROVE EFFICIENCY. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I JUST WENT OVER AS FAR AS THE RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION, UH, WHICH YOU SAW. 
          AND THEN FINANCIAL ASSUMPTIONS. 
          SO THIS HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT WITH THE ACTUAL DATA THAT WE HAVE NOW COMPARED TO WHAT I HAD SHOWN YOU, UH, IN EARLY JULY. 
          SO WE ENDED UP WITH A 3.9% OVERALL INCREASE IN TAXABLE PROPERTY VALUES. 
          UM, OUR BUDGET INCLUDES A 3.5% INCREASE IN SALES TAX REVENUE. 
          SO SALES TAX REVENUE CONTINUES TO BE VERY STRONG FOR THE TOWN. 
          UH, THERE IS NO INCREASE IN THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE AND A 1 CENT DECREASE IN THE OPERATING TAX RATE. 
          SO OVERALL, A ONE A 1 CENT 
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DECREASE, UH, IN THE TAX RATE, THE BUDGET INCLUDES A 4% EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION POOL, UH, AND ESTIMATES A 4% HEALTH INSURANCE, UH, INCREASE. 
          AND OVERALL, COMPARED TO SOME OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES, HEALTH INSURANCE HAS, HAS LARGELY INCREASES, HAVE, HAVE BEEN MUCH LOWER, UH, FOR ADDISON, UH, AS OPPOSED TO SOME OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES. 
          UH, I THINK THIS YEAR WE WERE THE ONLY CITY THAT GOT A SINGLE DIGIT, UH, INCREASE, UH, PROPOSED BY BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD. 
          AND THESE THINGS ARE STILL BEING NEGOTIATED BECAUSE THEY'RE ON A CALENDAR YEAR BASIS. 
          BUT, UH, WE SEEM TO BE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION AS FAR AS, UH, OVERALL HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASES, UH, COMPARED TO SOME OF OUR, UH, COMPARISON CITIES. 
          UH, WE HAVE HAVE A 4% INCREASE IN BOTH WATER AND SEWER RATES AND COMMERCIAL BASE CHARGE UPDATES. 
          AND I'LL GET TO, TO KIND OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BASED ON, UH, SOME PREVIOUS DISCUSSION WE HAD IN JUNE, UH, AND THEN NO INCREASE IN STORMWATER RATES. 
          SO WHAT ARE THE FUNDS WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, UH, TODAY, AND AND WHAT ARE THE FUNDS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN, IN YOUR, IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, THAT THAT HAS BEEN, UH, PROVIDED TO YOU? SO, GENERAL FUND IS GONNA BE OUR PRIMARY FUND. 
          UH, IT'S GOT BASICALLY ALL THE FUNDS THAT AREN'T RESTRICTED FOR A SPECIFIC USE, UH, A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND. 
          UH, THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST ONE THAT WE HAVE AS THE HOTEL FUND. 
          AND THAT REALLY JUST MEANS THAT THE FUNDS ARE RESTRICTED FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE FOR US. 
          MOST OF THOSE MEANS THAT THE STATE HAS RESTRICTED THOSE FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE. 
          SO IN, YOU KNOW, THE CONTEXT OF THE HOTEL FUND, HOTEL TAXES, THE STATE TELLS US WHAT EXACTLY WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS FOR. 
          WE HAVE SEVERAL SMALLER COURT FUNDS IF THE STATE TELLS US WHAT WE CAN USE THOSE, USE THOSE FUNDS FOR. 
          AND IT CAN ALSO BE INTERNALLY RESTRICTED. 
          SO WE HAVE SOME, SUCH AS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND, THAT'S REALLY A PORTION OF THE GENERAL FUND PROPERTY TAX RATE. 
          BUT COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED ORDINANCES TO RESTRICT THAT REALLY TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, DEBT SERVICE FUNDS, SO THIS IS A PORTION OF OUR TAX RATE, UH, THAT PAYS DOWN THE TOWN'S GENERAL, UH, DEBT OBLIGATIONS. 
          THEN WE HAVE THREE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, AND THESE ARE BASICALLY OPERATING SIMILAR TO WHAT A PRIVATE BUSINESS WOULD OPERATE, WHERE FEES AND CHARGES ARE USED TO FINANCE OR OPERATIONS. 
          SO THESE WOULD BE OUR UTILITY FUND WHERE THE WATER AND SEWER CHARGES, UH, EACH MONTH ARE, ARE USED TO PAY FOR THE OPERATIONS OF THAT FUND, OUR STORMWATER FUND AND OUR AIRPORT FUND. 
          THEN WE HAVE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS, AND WE HAVE THREE OF THESE. 
          UH, AND THESE ARE BASICALLY FUNDS THAT ARE PROVIDING SERVICES, UH, TO ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND OTHER FUNDS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. 
          AND THESE FUNDS CONTRIBUTE SO THAT WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE, WE HAVE ONE THAT'S CAPITAL EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT. 
          SO WHEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS FUND SO THAT WHEN THEY NEED TO REPLACE THEIR POLICE VEHICLES, WE ALREADY HAVE THE MONEY THERE, UH, TO REPLACE THEM AS NEEDED. 
          WE HAVE AN IT REPLACEMENT FUND, SAME CONCEPT, ANY DEPARTMENTS OR FUNDS THAT HAVE, UH, IT HARDWARE OR SOFTWARE. 
          THEY'RE SETTING ASIDE FUNDS, UH, IN THIS, IN THIS IT REPLACEMENT FUND, SO THAT WHEN WE NEED TO REPLACE SOFTWARE, HARDWARE, UH, THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE A FACILITY MAINTENANCE FUND, UH, AND THAT FUND, UH, ANY, ANY FUNDS OR DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE FACILITIES ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS FUND SO THAT WE CAN DO EMERGENCY MAINTENANCE OR ANY PLANNED REPAIRS OR MAINTENANCE, UH, TO THEIR FACILITIES. 
          SO EXPENDITURES BY FUND. 
          SO I KIND OF MENTIONED THE GENERAL FUND IS, IS OUR PRIMARY FUND. 
          SO GENERAL FUND MAKES UP, UH, 41% OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET, UH, IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          THE UTILITY FUND IS AT 16%. 
          UH, DEBT SERVICE MAKES UP 11% OF THE BUDGET. 
          BUDGET, UH, COMBINED OTHER, AND AGAIN, THAT'S MOSTLY THOSE SMALLER FUNDS. 
          UH, THE BIGGEST FUND THAT'S GONNA BE IN COMBINED OTHER IS GONNA BE OUR SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND. 
          BUT THAT MAKES UP, UH, ABOUT 10 FUNDS IN THERE. 
          AND THAT THOSE COMBINED FOR ABOUT 9%. 
          UH, OUR AIRPORT IS 8% OF THE TOTAL BUDGET HOTEL FUND IS 6%. 
          THEN WE HAVE STORMWATER AT 4%. 
          UH, THE REPLACEMENT FUNDS THAT I JUST MENTIONED ARE 3%, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS 2%. 
          SO OUR STAFFING SUMMARY, UH, SO WE'LL GET INTO THESE MORE IN DETAIL AS WE GO THROUGH. 
          UH, SO OVERALL, THERE IS AN, A PROPOSED INCREASE OF SEVEN, UH, FTES IN THE BUDGET. 
          I WILL SAY THAT MOST OF THESE, UH, HAVE SOME TYPE OF OFFSET, SOME OF THEM MORE THAN PAY FOR THEMSELVES. 
          I KIND OF WENT OVER THAT HVAC POSITION WHERE BRINGING THAT IN-HOUSE ELIMINATES A CONTRACT THAT ACTUALLY SAVES THIS MONEY. 
          UH, WE HAVE ONE IN THE AIRPORT FOR A GIS CONTRACTOR THAT'S SIMILAR. 
          IT ACTUALLY WILL SAVE US MONEY TO, TO IN-HOUSE, UH, SOME OF THAT. 
          AND WE HAVE SOME OTHER ONES THAT HAVE SOME PARTIAL OFFSETS, UH, THAT WILL SAVE, UH, SOME MONEY AS WELL. 
          SO I WANNA PUT THAT IN THE CONTEXT. 
          THERE IS SEVEN FTE INCREASE, BUT A LOT OF THESE ARE GONNA HAVE SOME COST OFFSETS, UH, WITH SOME ELIMINATION OF, OF CONTRACTS. 
          UH, 
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THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS BASICALLY A GENERAL FUND IS 3.5% INCREASE, OR NOT 3.5%, 3.5 FTE INCREASE. 
          THERE IS A THREE FTE INCREASE IN THE AIRPORT, AND THEN A 0.5 INCREASE IN THE STORMWATER FUND AND THEN PROPERTY TAX RATES. 
          SO, UH, THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS TO THE PROPERTY TAX RATE. 
          THERE IS THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS RATE, AND THIS IS REALLY MOSTLY GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE AN IN INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND THAT GETS A PORTION OF THAT IN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THE INS RATE. 
          SO THIS IS THE RATE THAT IS, IS THERE TO SERVICE THE TOWN'S DEBT. 
          SO WHEN WE HAVE A BOND ELECTION OR WHEN WE SELL BONDS AND THEY'RE SUPPORTED BY PROPERTY TAXES, THAT PROPERTY TAX, UH, RATE IS SET SO THAT WE'RE MAKING THOSE DEBT PAYMENTS EACH YEAR. 
          SO, SO THAT RATE IS JUST A SIMPLE CALCULATION. 
          WHAT IS THE AMOUNT THAT YOU OWE DIVIDED BY YOUR PROPERTY VALUES? AND THAT'S THE RATE THAT WE HAVE TO SET TO GENERATE ENOUGH MONEY, UH, TO PAY THOSE DEBTS. 
          UH, TWO, UH, STATE, UM, PROPERTY TAX RATE, UH, CALCULATIONS THAT THEY DO, UH, IS CALLED THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE AND THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE. 
          SO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS THE RATE THAT WOULD PROVIDE THE, THE TOWN WITH THE SAME REVENUE FROM THE SAME PROPERTIES AS THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          SO IF PROPERTY VALUE GO PROPERTY VALUES GO UP, THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE GOES DOWN BECAUSE YOU WOULD NEED A LOWER RATE TO GENERATE THE SAME REVENUE ON THE SAME PROPERTIES, UH, THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE DOES NOT CONSIDER NEW GROWTH. 
          SO ANY NEW GROWTH IS NOT PART OF THAT CALCULATION. 
          UH, THEN WE HAVE THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE. 
          SO THIS IS THE MAXIMUM RATE THAT THE STATE ALLOWS WITHOUT GOING TO VOTERS FOR APPROVAL. 
          UH, IT'S GENERALLY THREE AND A HALF PERCENT, UH, PER YEAR. 
          UH, BUT IF YOU DON'T USE ALL OF THAT AMOUNT IN ONE YEAR, THEY LET YOU BASICALLY BANK UP TO THREE YEARS. 
          SO I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT. 
          THE TOWN HAS, OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, BEEN A LOT CLOSER TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. 
          SO THERE IS, THERE IS A LOT THAT HAS BEEN BANKED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WHICH, UH, SHOWS JUST THAT THE FISCAL DISCIPLINE THAT THESE BUDGETS HAVE HAD OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          SO TAX RATE, UH, THESE ARE THOSE TWO CALCULATIONS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. 
          SO OUR, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2027, NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS 59.50 CENTS. 
          UH, AND THE PROPOSED RATE IS 59.81 CENTS. 
          SO WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO THAT, NO NEW REVENUE RATE WITH THE PROPOSED RATE. 
          AND THAT VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS ALMOST 67 CENTS. 
          SO, SO THE PROPOSED RATE IS ALMOST 7 CENTS BELOW THE MAXIMUM RATE THAT, UH, THAT COULD BE ADOPTED WITHOUT GOING TO VOTERS. 
          SO THAT EQUATES TO ALMOST $5 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAX THAT COULD BE GENERATED. 
          UH, BUT, BUT BECAUSE OF RESPONSIBLE BUDGETING OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, LOWER TAX RATES THAT ARE A LOT CLOSER TO THAT, NO NEW REVENUE RATE, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, THERE IS THAT, UM, WHAT THEY CALL, I, I THINK, UH, UH, CARRY FORWARD AMOUNT THAT THAT COULD BE USED. 
          BUT THIS IS, UH, JUST MORE RESPONSIBLE, UH, KIND OF BUDGET AND TAX RATE SETTING THAT HAS GONE THROUGH OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THAT THAT SHOWS, UH, OUR O AND M TAX RATE INFORMATION. 
          AS I MENTIONED, UH, OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE IS BROKEN INTO THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. 
          ON THE O AND M SIDE, THE GENERAL FUND IS THE MAIN PORTION. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A 1 CENT REDUCTION FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR, UH, FROM JUST OVER, FROM ABOUT 40.20 CENTS TO ABOUT 39.20 CENTS. 
          SO THAT IS A 1 CENT REDUCTION. 
          THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RATE, 2.50 CENTS IS PROPOSED TO STAY THE SAME. 
          THAT IS SET BY, UH, AN ORDINANCE PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED BY COUNCIL, AS IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND. 
          UH, RATE THAT IS, UH, ABOUT 0.60 CENTS. 
          SO OVERALL, UH, GOING DOWN FROM ABOUT 43.31 CENTS, UH, ON THE OPERATION SIDE TO 42.31 CENTS. 
          AND THEN WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER? SO I DID INCLUDE, UH, REALLY THE, THE TOTAL BILL THAT, YOU KNOW, A CUSTOMER OR A RESIDENT MAY SEE, BUT OVERALL ON PRO, ON THE PROPERTY TAX SIDE, OUR AVERAGE HOMEOWNER IS GONNA SEE ABOUT, UH, A $2 AND 60 CENTS DECREASE ON AVERAGE PER MONTH. 
          NOW, PROPERTY TAXES AREN'T BILLED BY MONTH, THEY'RE BILLED BY YEAR. 
          SO THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT $31 AND 20 CENTS, UH, PER YEAR IS WHAT, UH, THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER WOULD SEE, UH, ON THE WATER SIDE WITH 4%, UH, RATE INCREASES. 
          UH, SEE ABOUT A DOLLAR AND 20 UH, CENTS INCREASE PER MONTH ON THEIR WATER BILL. 
          UH, ON THE SEWER SIDE, ABOUT A DOLLAR AND 65 CENTS. 
          AND I REALLY WANTED TO GET THIS BELOW ZERO, BUT THIS BUDGET DOES INCLUDE ABOUT A QUARTER CENT INCREASE FOR OUR AVERAGE HOMEOWNER, WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT, UH, $3 A YEAR. 
          SO, AND THAT'S PROPERTY TAX UTILITY. 
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UH, SO I'D SAY WITH THE, YOU KNOW, CURRENT INFLATION, THAT'S A, UH, OVERALL PRETTY GOOD, PRETTY GOOD DEAL, CERTIFIED VALUE HISTORY. 
          UH, I DO WANNA BRING UP ONE THING. 
          UH, AND, AND IF YOU MAY RECALL, UH, WHEN WE, WHEN WE GET TO 2027, THERE WAS AN ELECTION THAT WAS HELD IN NOVEMBER OF 2025. 
          AND THAT ELECTION INCLUDED, UH, A, UH, INCREASED EXEMPTION FOR BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY VALUES. 
          AND I THINK WE DISCUSSED THIS, UH, DURING LAST YEAR'S BUDGET PROCESS, BUT THAT WAS APPROVED. 
          UH, SO THERE WAS A INCREASE IN BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY EXEMPTIONS, UH, FROM $2,500 TO $125,000. 
          SO WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE ABOUT 154 MILLION IN NEW EXEMPTIONS IN THAT BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY CATEGORY. 
          SO YOU SEE THAT GOING DOWN FROM 14. 
          I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA GO DOWN A LOT MORE. 
          UM, BUT YOU SEE THAT GOING DOWN FROM BEING AT 14% IN 2026 TO 13% IN 2027, UH, IS, IS REALLY A RESULT OF THOSE NEW EXEMPTIONS THAT WERE APPROVED STATEWIDE BY VOTERS, UH, IN 2025. 
          SO FOR 2027, UH, RESIDENTIAL MAKES UP 16% OF OUR TOTAL TAX BASE BUSINESS. 
          PERSONAL PROPERTY IS 13%, AND, UH, OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ARE 71%. 
          AND, UH, THAT COMMERCIAL GROUP INCLUDES YOUR, YOUR OFFICE BUILDINGS, YOUR, UH, YOUR MULTIFAMILY, YOUR, UM, RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          AND THEN OUR TOTAL TAX RATE. 
          SO, UH, REALLY YOU SEE THAT GOING DOWN IN TOTAL, BUT REALLY THAT DECREASE, UH, COUNTYWIDE IS REALLY AS A RESULT OF SOME ACTIONS THAT WE'RE TAKING, UH, TAKEN BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO REDUCE, UH, THE SCHOOL PORTION OF PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH IS THE ONE AREA WHERE, UH, THE SCHOOL HAS, UH, UH, MORE SIGNIFICANT CONTROL. 
          UH, SO DALLAS, ISD, THEIR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TAX RATE HAS GONE DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE THE STATE HAS INCREASED THEIR PARTICIPATION, UH, REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, DURING THE, UH, LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS, UH, ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          SO YOU SEE PRETTY BIG DECREASES THERE. 
          MOST OF THE OTHER ENTITIES THAT YOU SEE, THE TOWN, EXCUSE ME, DALLAS COUNTY, PARKLAND HOSPITAL, DALLAS COUNTY COMMUNITY COLLEGE, THOSE RATES HAVE LARGELY REMAINED, UH, STEADY OVER THE LAST, UH, SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AS WE'VE SEEN, UH, IN THIS CHART. 
          BUT OVERALL, THE TAX RATE, UH, IS RIGHT NOW PROJECTED TO BE A LITTLE BIT OVER $2 IN TOTAL FOR A RESIDENT OF ADDISON. 
          UH, NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE OTHER RATES WILL BE FOR DALLAS, ISD, UH, FOR ANY OF THE OTHER ENTITIES, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS JUST LIKE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. 
          SO ONCE THEY UPDATE THEIR RATES, UH, WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT THEIR RATES THAT TOTAL TAX RATE MAY BE. 
          BUT OVERALL, UH, THE OVERALL TAX RATE JUST, JUST, UH, COUNTYWIDE HAS GONE DOWN BY ABOUT 40, UH, BETWEEN 40 AND 50 CENTS, JUST BECAUSE OF MOSTLY THAT ACTION THAT'S BEEN TAKEN AT THE STATE LEVEL AS FAR AS SCHOOL PROPERTY TAXES GO AND GETTING INTO OUR GENERAL FUND. 
          UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING I'VE GONE THROUGH TO THIS POINT? I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON, IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. 
          LET ME GO FIRST. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY, DIDN'T MEAN TO TALK OVER YOU. 
          SO ARE WE LOCKED INTO, UH, BLUE CROSS AS A CARRIER, OR IS THAT A, UH, CITY MUNICIPAL THING? IS THAT OH, WE, WE ARE, WE ARE NOT LOCKED IN. 
          WE GO OUT EVERY YEAR, UM, AND SEE WHAT THE MARKET SAYS. 
          NOW WE DO, WE, BLUE CROSS HAS BEEN VERY COMPETITIVE AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME FOR ASHLEY TO COME UP AND JUST ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ALSO A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT THE, AS STEVEN MENTIONED, THE INCREASES THAT WE'RE SEEING ARE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS YEAH. 
          THAN OTHER CITIES. 
          OTHER CITIES ARE SEEING UPWARDS OF 20% INCREASES. 
          UM, SEE, LIKE I SAW ON THE EARLY BUDGETS, YOU HAD 5% IN THERE AS AN INCREASE, AND NOW IT'S DOWN TO FOUR. 
          I KNOW MANY BUSINESSES, SOME THAT I WORK WITH ARE 45% INCREASE, AND IT'S REALLY, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THOSE BUSINESSES, BUT IT IS, UH, 4% SEEMS REALLY LOW. 
          AND I WAS CURIOUS, 'CAUSE I I GOTTEN THE IMPRESSIONS THROUGH, THROUGH THE PRESENTATION SO FAR THAT MAYBE IT'S A MAYBE A, A STANDARD OR A COMMON THING FOR MUNICIPALITIES TO, TO USE BLUE CROSS. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE MY QUESTION CAME FROM. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          ASHLEY WHITE, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES. 
          UM, IT IS STANDARD FOR US TO GO, AS DAVID MENTIONED, EVERY SINGLE YEAR, UM, THE MARKET HAS SEEN PRETTY, PRETTY LARGE INCREASES LIKE THAT 45%. 
          IT'S PRETTY NORMAL. 
          I THINK THE REASON, UM, WHY WE'VE STAYED WITH BLUE CROSS, WHY WE'VE CONSISTENTLY SEEN ALL OUR HARD WORK PAY OFF WITH THESE SINGLE DIGIT INCREASES IS BECAUSE EVEN WHEN YOU'RE COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKET WITH THESE OTHER LARGE PROVIDERS, WE'RE NOT SEEING THOSE 
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SINGLE DIGITS. 
          WE'RE SEEING THE 20 FIVES, THE 40 FIVES. 
          UM, SO WE'RE CONSISTENTLY BUILDING THAT RELATIONSHIP AND STAYING WITH BLUE CROSS BECAUSE OF THE LOW RATES THAT WE'RE GETTING. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS YOU WANT ME TO JUST WAIT, GO BACK AND FORTH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NUMBER, UH, SLIDE, UM, 21. 
          SO THIS, THIS IS, UM, IMPACT ON THE HOMEOWNER WITH REGARD TO ONLY THE ADDISON SIDE OF TAXES. 
          IT IS, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IT INCLUDE ANY OTHER ONES. 
          WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE YET. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. 
          SO, SO ASSUMING THAT THOSE WERE ALL THE SAME, WHICH IS WHAT, UH, THIS CHART ALSO ASSUMES IS THAT NO ONE ELSE IS CHANGING THEIR RATE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW. 
          I THINK I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT VERY SMALL INCREASE. 
          IT'S, UH, REALLY NICE, ESPECIALLY WITH, UH, SOME APPRECIATION OF THE, UH, PROPERTY TO, UH, VALUE. 
          THEN SLIDE 22, DOES THAT INCLUDE, UM, YOU MENTIONED THE BPP, UH, PERSONAL PROPERTY EXEMPTION THAT WE VOTED ON TO, TO ACCEPT. 
          DOES THAT INCLUDE FOR THIS YEAR'S EFFECTIVE IN 27? IT WAS, AND, AND IF YOU KIND OF REMEMBER WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION, BUT IF THE, IF THE STATEWIDE INITIATIVE WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS THAT IT KIND OF MADE IT A MOOT POINT. 
          MOOT POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, JUST BECAUSE, JUST BECAUSE I, WELL, I GUESS IF SOMEONE HAD A LEASED VEHICLE THAT WAS VALUED OVER 125,000, UH, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY A PRETTY SMALL, PRETTY SMALL GROUP. 
          BUT, BUT THIS BASICALLY ELIMINATED OKAY. 
          THAT ON A STATEWIDE BASIS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          UH, YEAH. 
          SO ON SLIDE, UH, CAN WE GO TO SLIDE 22 AGAIN? ALRIGHT, SO, UM, UH, I LOVE ALL THIS INFORMATION. 
          THIS IS GREAT. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S SHOWING US IS, UH, THIS JUST PROPERTY TAXES FOR, FOR THE VARIOUS, FOR COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL BPP, BUT, BUT RESIDENTIAL 16%, AND THAT'S JUST THE PROPERTY TAX POINT. 
          CAN WE GO TO SLIDE 21 AND THEN, AND THEN WE'VE GOT THIS IMPACT ON AN AVERAGE HOMEOWNER. 
          SO, SO FOR THIS, THAT ARE KEEPING UP WITH IT, YOU MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE, I THINK THE, THE REVENUE FLOW IS LIKE 92% FROM COMMERCIAL AND 8% FROM OUR RESIDENTIAL. 
          IS THAT ROUGHLY CLOSE? I DO HAVE A SLIDE IN THE GENERAL FUND, AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING IS, IS THAT OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET, UH, 8% OF THAT IS FUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX. 
          MY POINT IS THIS, IT'S SUCH A TINY, TINY PERCENTAGE OF OUR OVERALL REVENUE. 
          UM, SLIDE 21 IS GREAT, BUT I'M, I'M LOOKING FOR THE SLIDE THAT'S NOT THERE THAT SAYS THE AVERAGE COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, THE EFFECT ON THE AVERAGE AND, AND WE CAN MAKE UP WHATEVER SCENARIO IT'S GOT. 
          THEY OWN THE PROPERTY, THEY DON'T OWN THE PRO A HUNDRED EMPLOYEE, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT IS. 
          BUT THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO ME MM-HMM . 
          UM, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR CASH COW, AND IF WE'RE NOT FOCUSED ON THAT, THEN WE MAY BE LOOKING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. 
          UM, SO NOT THIS BUDGET OBVIOUSLY, BUT, UM, I'M HOPEFUL IN, IN FUTURE BUDGETS THAT WE CAN ADD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ANOTHER, ANOTHER SLIDE IMPACT ON WHATEVER COMMERCIAL SCENARIO YOU WANT WE CAN THROW IN THERE. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT'D BE THE NEXT SLIDE IN THE ORDER, BECAUSE TO ME, THAT'S MY FOCUS. 
          YEAH, THAT, THAT, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          AND I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES VARY WIDELY IN THEIR VALUES. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE A, I GET IT, I THINK 140 MILLION ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OR YEAH, I GET, I GET IT. 
          I'VE HAD, BUT WE CAN DO AN AVERAGE, AND YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, IF WE HAD A PROPERTY THAT IS SAY, $10 MILLION, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL GONNA SEE A 1 CENT REDUCTION IN THEIR PROPERTY TAX RATE, AND THAT'S GONNA SAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT RATE WOULD'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK ON 10 MILLION, 10 MILLION VALUE WOULD BE A THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THEY'RE OFFICE SAFE, AND THIS IS, THIS IS A GREAT YEAR TO TALK ABOUT IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE PROPOSING A TAX DECREASE. 
          SURE. 
          UM, SO, AND, AND IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, I SAID AVERAGE, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE WRONG WORD TO USE, JUST, JUST SOME SCENARIO, RIGHT? THE SCENARIO IS YOU'VE GOT A, UM, MAYBE SOME IDEAL SCENARIO. 
          WE'RE TARGETING A HUNDRED EMPLOYEES, THEY OCCUPY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CAN TELL US HOW MANY SQUARE FEET, WHAT ARE THEY, THEY'RE PROBABLY LEASING IT, THAT KIND OF THING. 
          JUST THAT SCENARIO. 
          BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT, IF WE'RE NOT AS A COUNCIL, I KNOW OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS FOCUSED ON IT, BUT IF WE'RE NOT FOCUSING ON THAT AS A COUNCIL AND TALKING ABOUT THAT WITH OUR RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES I JUST, I JUST HEAR US TALK ABOUT RESIDENTIAL, RESIDENTIAL, RESIDENTIAL, BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM, IT'S LIKE 92% SURE. 
          COMMERCIAL. 
          SO, SO I HOPE, AND, AND WE'RE, WE HAVE COMPETITION, RIGHT? WE, UH, AND, AND WE'LL GET TO THAT FRISCO, PLANO AND, AND, AND DALLAS, UM, SEEM TO BE OUR MAIN COMPETITION WHEN THESE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 
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DEALS COME THROUGH. 
          SO I'M HOPEFUL IN THE FUTURE WE CAN JUST ADD, ADD SOME SLIDE RELATED TO, HEY, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE EFFECT OR NON EFFECT ON, ON COMMERCIAL? YEAH, I COULD DO A SLIDING SCALE OF SOMETHING MILLION, 10 MILLION, A HUNDRED MILLION PROPERTY. 
          ANY, ANYTHING, ANYTHING. 
          I JUST, IT WOULD, I THINK IT WOULD HELP, UH, SHAPE OUR FOCUS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. 
          AND I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR GENERAL FUND. 
          CAN THAT, WAIT, ARE WE GONNA DO SOME, ARE WE GONNA GO THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND SPECIFIC OR IS THIS THE TIME FOR THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ABOUT TO DIG INTO THE GENERAL FUND FUND QUITE A BIT, BUT IF YOU WANNA ASK YOUR QUESTION, STEVEN WILL JUST SAY, HEY, WE'RE ABOUT TO GET TO THAT, OR WE CAN ANSWER IT NOW. 
          PERFECT. 
          SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN YOUR, DAVID IN YOUR COVER LETTER, IT'S GREAT. 
          UM, ON PAGE FIVE, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF JUMPED, UH, JUMPED OFF THE PAGE FOR ME. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX REVENUE IN THE GENERAL FUND EQUATES TO 1% DECREASE ON EXISTING PROPERTIES OVER THE PRIOR PRIOR FISCAL YEAR. 
          AND WE, AND YOU'RE, BUT YOU'RE ALSO SAYING THAT, THAT THE PROPERTY TAXES ARE REALLY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE INCREASING BY ALMOST 4%, 3.9%. 
          SO HELP ME, IS THAT LIKE, JUST REALLY, REALLY CONSERVATIVE ON, ON BUDGETING? UM, WELL, OVERALL PROPERTY VALUES INCREASED 3.9%. 
          SO WE DIDN'T INCREASE PROPERTY TAXES OVERALL BY 3.9%. 
          SO JUST ON A VALUE TAXABLE VALUE BASIS, THAT INCREASED 3.9%. 
          NOW, A LOT OF THAT WAS NEW PROPERTY THIS YEAR. 
          UH, SO WE HAD ABOUT 150 MILLION IN NEW PROPERTY ADDED TO THE TAX ROLL. 
          REALLY, MOST OF THAT WAS THE AMLI PROJECT ON MIDWAY, UH, WHICH I THINK INCREASED BY MORE THAN HALF OF THAT WAS, WAS THEIR INCREASE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THE, UH, I THINK JEFF JEFFERSON ARROW HERE ACROSS FROM THE POLICE STATION. 
          THAT ONE INCREASED BY, YOU KNOW, AROUND 30 MILLION OR SO. 
          SO THOSE TWO MAKE UP MOST OF THAT INCREASE. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAD THE, UH, PROPERTY, UH, THE KELLER SPRINGS LOFTS, WHICH IS 71 MILLION, UH, THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY TAX EXEMPT, ADDED BACK TO THE TAX ROLL. 
          SO THOSE TWO, THOSE TWO RIGHT THERE MAKE UP A BIG PORTION OF THE PROPERTY VALUE INCREASE. 
          UM, SO THERE, THE, I GUESS THE, THE WAY THAT THE EXISTING PROPERTIES, RIGHT, SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT JUST EXISTING PROPERTIES, SO NOT ANY OF THE NEW PROPERTIES THAT WERE ADDED, UH, OVERALL, THEY'RE PAYING LESS TAXES, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE DROPPING THE TAX RATE. 
          UM, AND THEIR VALUES DIDN'T, DIDN'T EXPLODE THIS YEAR. 
          SO, SO EXISTING PROPERTIES DIDN'T SEE A HUGE INCREASE IN TAXABLE VALUE, UH, AND WE LOWERED THE RATE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SEEING A ONE, BASICALLY A 1% DECREASE IN THE OVERALL TAXES THAT THEY'RE GONNA PAY THAT NOW. 
          YEAH, I WAS CONFUSED ON THAT ANSWER. 
          I'M, I'M, SO THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUES INCREASED 3.9%, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S NOT CORRECT. 
          THAT'S NOT CORRECT. 
          WE USE INCREASED 3.9%. 
          SO MAYBE A WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT IS VALUES HAVE IN INCREASED, IF WE JUST WENT INTO THE BUDGET YEAR, LIKE MAYBE SOME OTHER CITIES WOULD SAY, HEY, WE ARE JUST GONNA KEEP OUR TAX RATE THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT. 
          YOU WOULD REALIZE MORE OF THAT INCREASE. 
          WE OBVIOUSLY CAME IN AND SAID, TOOK IT THE APPROACH OF WHAT DO WE NEED AND HOW CAN WE, UM, GET THE TAX RATE LOWER WITH OUR VALUES INCREASING? SO THE VALUES INCREASE. 
          SO WHAT, SO WHAT DID OUR REVENUES INCREASE? 1.3%. 
          ONE POINT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, SO OUR REVENUES INCREASED ON THE PROPERTY TAX SIDE 1.3%. 
          AND SO ON THE, ON THE BUDGET WE'RE, UM, AGAIN, I'M, I'M REFERRING TO SLIDE FIVE, THE PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX REVENUE IN THE GENERAL FUND EQUATES TO A 1% DECREASE. 
          SO, OKAY, SO THE DELTA IS NOT AS EXTREME AS I WAS, I WAS THINKING, BUT THAT IS THAT LIKE WHERE OUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUES ARE INCREASING 1.3%, WE'RE BUDGETING JUST TO BE ULTRA, ULTRA CONSERVATIVE AND GIVE US A CON, UH, A CUSHION THERE OF A DECREASE OF 1%. 
          SO WE'VE GOT LIKE A, WELL, IT'S ONLY A DECREASE ON EXISTING PROPERTIES, SO, WELL, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT REVENUE, REVENUE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, I'M JUST USING REVENUE FOR REVENUE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO REVENUE AS A WHOLE IS INCREASING 1.3% OF PROPERTY, RIGHT? AND THEN, AND THEN ON THE GENERAL FUND, UM, THE, I'M, AGAIN, I'M JUST, I'M GONNA JUST READ THAT THE PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX REVENUE IN THE GENERAL FUND EQUATES TO A 1% DECREASE ON EXISTING THAT, SO THAT'S TALKING ABOUT EXISTING, IT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT THE NEW ONLY EXISTING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          SO THOSE ARE PROPERTIES THAT I MENTIONED THAT ARE ADDING NEW, NEW PROPERTY TAX TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ARE, EXIST EVERYTHING THAT WAS HERE LAST YEAR IN 2026 AND IS MOVING AN EXISTING PROPERTY FROM 26 2 27. 
          THOSE ARE SEEING A 1% DECREASE IN THE OVERALL . 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAD THE NEW, THE NEW, THE NEW, WE'RE GETTING NEW PROPERTY TAX FROM NEW PROPERTIES AND THAT, THAT GETS US TO KIND OF WHERE, UH, WHEN YOU ADD THOSE UP, WE GET A 1.3% OVERALL 
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INCREASE IN GOT, I'M WITH YOU NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          THANKS, STEVEN. 
          SO TO MARLIN'S POINT, OR FOR CLARIFICATION FOR ME, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT COMMERCIAL TAX RATE VERSUS THE RESIDENTIAL TAX RATE IN THE IMPACTS, UM, I'LL USE THE EXAMPLE OF RECENTLY CANTINA LAREDO GOES OUT OF BUSINESS, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR. 
          I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT TAX RATE DROPS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT VALOREM TAX CORRECT. 
          AS FAR AS THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THE, THE PROPERTY TAX RATE IS STATIC THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, SO EVERY PROPERTY IS GONNA PAY THE SAME PROPERTY TAX RATE. 
          AND THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS, SO THERE'S A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          BUSINESSES GET, THEY, THEY REALLY, THERE'S LIMITED EXEMPTIONS, REALLY NOT REALLY ANY EXEMPTIONS FOR BUSINESSES EXCEPT BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY. 
          SO THAT PROPERTY WILL STILL BE ASSESSED BY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AS FAR AS WHAT THEIR VALUE IS, AND THEN THE TALK TAX OFFICE WOULD BILL THEM THAT SAME TAX RATE BASED ON THAT VALUE. 
          OKAY. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS WHEN WE LOSE A BUSINESS, WHETHER IT BE A RESTAURANT OR A BUSINESS MM-HMM. 
          THERE IS AN IMPACT ON OUR TAX BURDEN. 
          OH, SURE. 
          I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT, I HEAR IT'S NOT THAT DYNAMIC THOUGH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE IT HAPPENS IMMEDIATELY. 
          SO, UM, AND THAT'S, LET'S TAKE CONTINUAL LAREDO. 
          IF IT'S SET VACANT FOR MULTIPLE YEARS, AT SOME POINT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT WOULD VERY LIKELY REDUCE THE VALUE. 
          BUT ASSUMING IN THE NEXT, BEFORE NEXT, YOU KNOW, YEAR, SOMEONE ELSE GOES IN THERE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE A CHANGE IN IT. 
          SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT JUST SOMEONE LEAVES AND AUTOMATICALLY THERE'S A CHANGE IN LIKE A SALAD AND GO AND THE ROADRUNNER THAT'S COMING, RIGHT? YEP. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S VERSUS SOMETHING THAT SITS AND SITS AND DEPRECIATES. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO THE, THE POINT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS IT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT, TO MARLIN'S POINT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE COMMERCIAL OVERALL NUMBER, MAYBE WITH WIDER EYES, BECAUSE WHEN WE LOSE BUSINESS, IT WILL EVENTUALLY CATCH UP AND HURT US. 
          IT, IT DOES. 
          SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT SPECIFICALLY MORE WITH THE OFFICE PROPERTIES. 
          UM, AND IF THEY CONTINUALLY HAVE VACANCIES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR RENT PER SQUARE FOOT GOES DOWN AND THEY'RE ABLE TO SHOW THAT TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, THEN THEY CAN ULTIMATELY GET THEIR PROPERTIES VALUED LESS AND THEN PAY LESS TAXES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M GOOD. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          ONE ADD ON QUESTION. 
          SO, UH, MARLON'S QUESTION ABOUT COMMERCIAL, UH, TAXES, BUSINESS TAXES. 
          IF WE DO LOOK AT THAT, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT A FULLY A FULL PICTURE OF THAT. 
          THE UTILITY RATES, THE SERVICE FEES, BECAUSE IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES WHENEVER YOU GET INTO COMMERCIAL, AS WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT WITH COMPARING TO OTHER CITIES THAT TAX DIFFERENTLY OR, OR FEE DIFFERENTLY. 
          SO IF WE DO SEE THAT, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES FULLY BURDENED WHOLE PICTURE. 
          OTHERWISE, YOU'RE JUST, YOU, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE ACCURATE DATA IF YOU'RE MISSING THAT OUT. 
          THAT'S, I JUST WANNA PUT THAT IN AS, AS WE GO FORWARD. 
          AND I'LL, I'LL ADD, AND I HAVE SOME, SOME SLIDES LATER ON THE UTILITY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE DIFFERENT UTILITY RATES LOOK LIKE, BUT WE ALSO, THERE'S A BIG VARIANCE IN, WE HAVE SOME CUSTOMERS THAT USE LESS THAN 10,000 GALLONS. 
          WE HAVE SOME CUSTOMERS THAT USE TWO TO 3 MILLION GALLONS PER MONTH. 
          UM, SO THAT WILL VARY GREATLY AS WELL. 
          BUT WE CAN DO SOME NORMALIZATION AND SHOW DIFFERENT LEVELS OF, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS WITH 10 MILLION IN PROPERTY VALUE AND MAYBE USES A HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS PER MONTH AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, HOW WE COMPARE ON AN APPLES TO APPLES, UH, SCENARIO LIKE THAT. 
          THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING FORWARD, UH, MOVING ON TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UH, SO HERE IS A VIEW OF SOME SALES TAX, UH, HISTORY. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BLUE BARS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE, WHAT WE BUDGET COMPARED TO WHAT WE ACTUALLY COLLECT, WE GENERALLY DO BUDGET A LITTLE CONSERVATIVELY, YOU KNOW, SALES TAX, A LITTLE BIT MORE VOLATILE THAN PROPERTY TAX. 
          PROPERTY TAX. 
          WE CAN BASICALLY, UH, TELL, UH, AS WE'VE GIVEN YOU THE BUDGET ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA COLLECT FOR THE NEXT YEAR. 
          SALES TAX, WE, WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD, UH, DATA, BUT IT IS MORE VOLATILE, UH, REVENUE SOURCE. 
          UH, SO OVERALL YOU CAN SEE THOSE BLUE BARS HAVE GENERALLY GONE UP A LITTLE BIT, WHICH IS A GOOD SIGN. 
          UH, OUR 2026 BUDGET WAS SLIGHTLY BELOW WHAT WE COLLECTED IN 2025. 
          UH, OUR PROJECTION FOR 26 IS MORE THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED IN 26, AND OUR PROPOSED BUDGET IS A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING, UH, FOR 2026. 
          SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE, UH, I THINK WE'RE PROJECTING 18.5 MILLION TO END, UH, THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          WITH, AS FAR AS THE GENERAL FUND, UH, THE PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDES 17 POINT, UH, 7 MILLION. 
          UH, SO OVERALL WE ARE STILL SEEING SIGNIFICANT GROWTH. 
          UH, THAT IS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 600,000 FROM, UH, THE 2026 BUDGET. 
          UH, GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES BY TYPE. 
          SO THE GENERAL FUND, UH, IS MOSTLY GONNA 
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BE PERSONNEL COSTS. 
          THAT'S WHERE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR, UH, PARKS, OUR RECREATION FOLKS, UH, ALL OF THEM ARE PAID. 
          OUR GENERAL ADMINISTRATION. 
          SO ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET IS GONNA BE, UH, PERSONNEL. 
          UH, AND THAT'S COMMON FOR, UH, CITIES BECAUSE WE ARE A SERVICE ORGANIZATION. 
          UH, CONTRACTUAL SERVICES MAKE UP ABOUT 17%. 
          AND, UH, WHAT FALLS INTO THAT CATEGORY ARE THINGS LIKE OUR JAIL SERVICES CONTRACT, OUR UTILITIES THAT WE PAY, UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          UH, MAINTENANCE MAKES UP 8% OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET, UH, CAPITAL REPLACEMENT LEASE. 
          AND THIS IS THE DEPARTMENT SENDING MONEY OVER TO THOSE, UH, CAPITAL REPLACEMENT FUNDS SO THAT THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN BUY THEIR CARS WHEN THEY NEED TO. 
          THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN REPLACE THEIR AMBULANCES WHEN THOSE ARE NEED NEEDING TO BE REPLACED. 
          THAT MAKES UP 5% OF THE BUDGET. 
          SUPPLIES ARE 3%. 
          AND THEN ACTUAL CAPITAL OUTLAY, UH, IS 1% OF THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UH, SO I THINK THIS IS THE SLIDE THAT, UH, MARLON, YOU WERE REFERENCING. 
          SO OVERALL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX MAKES UP 8% OF THE TOTAL REVENUE, UH, THAT'S GENERATED BY THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN ALL OTHER REVENUE, AND THAT INCLUDES THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAXES, THE SALES TAXES, FRANCHISE FEES, SERVICE FEES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS MAKE UP THE OTHER, UH, 92% OF WHAT FUNDS, UH, THE GENERAL FUNDS BUDGET. 
          HEY, STEVEN, CAN I JUMP IN HERE REAL QUICK? YES, SIR. 
          IS THAT NORMAL? NO. 
          IS THAT ANYWHERE CLOSE TO NORMAL? UH, I'M SURE THERE'S PROBABLY SOME, SOME THAT MAY BE SIMILAR, BUT NO, IF YOU JUST SAID, HEY, A NORMAL CITY, WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK THAT THE RESIDENTIAL CONTRIBUTION PERCENTAGE MIGHT BE? THE ONLY ONES I COULD THINK OF, THERE ARE SOME CITIES THAT, THAT HAVE, UH, REALLY LOW TAX RATES BECAUSE THE VALUES OF THEIR PROPERTIES ARE SO HIGH, RIGHT? BUT, UM, SO I WOULD SAY NORMALLY THIS IS PROBABLY 50% OR, OR MORE, UH, IN A, IN A COMMON CITY, BUT ALL CITIES ARE A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          THERE ARE SOME CITIES WHERE IT'S OPPOSITE, WHERE IT'S 92% RESIDENTIAL. 
          I, I'VE BEEN AT ONE WHERE IT'S MORE LIKE 92% FROM RESIDENTIAL AND 8% FROM MAYBE LIKE UNIVERSITY PARK, HIGHLAND PARK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT THAT, YEAH, THAT, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT QUESTION. 
          IT'S JUST INTERESTING. 
          OKAY, SO WE, WE ALWAYS SHOW THIS RECONCILIATION WITH THE GENERAL FUND ON WHERE WE, WHERE WE STARTED WITH OUR CURRENT BUDGET, UH, FOR 2026. 
          SO THE BUDGET APPROVED WAS 52.35 MILLION. 
          AND THEN HOW WE GET TO, UH, THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 2027. 
          SO THOSE RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION ITEMS THAT I WENT OVER, ABOUT 190,000 OF THOSE ARE SPECIFIC TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO THAT'S A REDUCTION IN THE GENERAL FUND THAT COMPENSATION POOL AND HEALTH INSURANCE ARE INCLUDED THERE. 
          1.5 AND 0.3 MILLION. 
          UH, THE DECISION PACKAGES THAT YOU'LL HEAR, HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT COMING UP, UH, MAKE UP ABOUT 210,000. 
          AND THEN BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS MAKE UP, UH, ABOUT 410,000. 
          AND A BASELINE ADJUSTMENT IS, FOR INSTANCE, I MENTIONED THE JAIL SERVICES CONTRACT THAT WENT UP, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A CONTRACT THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY COUNSEL THAT WAS 500,000 LAST YEAR. 
          IT'S GOING UP TO 550,000 IN THE SECOND YEAR. 
          UH, WE DON'T MAKE THEM DO A DECISION PACKAGE FOR THAT, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. 
          THINGS LIKE UTILITY INCREASES, UH, THE ANIMAL SERVICES CONTRACT, UH, THAT WAS JUST APPROVED BY COUNCIL. 
          UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, UH, MAKE UP THOSE BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS. 
          SO OVERALL, THE, THE BUDGET IS PROPOSED TO INCREASE BY 2.23 MILLION IN THE GENERAL FUND, BRINGING US TO 54.57, UH, MILLION OVERALL. 
          SO THIS IS A LITTLE MORE DETAILED VIEW. 
          UH, SO OVERALL REVENUE, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, PROPERTY TAX IS NOT GOING UP ON A DOLLAR BASIS VERY MUCH. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE OVER 300 AND, YOU KNOW, ABOUT $340,000 OVERALL, UH, IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UM, OVERALL, UH, SALES TAX, AS I MENTIONED, IS GOING UP A LITTLE BIT, UH, FROM THE, UH, PREVIOUS YEAR BUDGET, BUT IS A LITTLE BIT BELOW WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING TO END THE YEAR AT. 
          UH, OVERALL REVENUE IS, UH, 54,573,000. 
          UH, ONE OF THE OTHER CHANGES THERE AS FAR AS FRANCHISE FEES, UH, THIS DOES INCLUDE A FRANCHISE FEE PAID BY OUR UTILITY TO THE GENERAL FUND, AND WE'LL GET INTO MORE OF THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT THAT AMOUNT IS ABOUT NINE, UH, 945,000. 
          UH, SO THAT, UH, MAKES UP THE MAJORITY OF THAT INCREASE. 
          UH, OVERALL WHEN WE GO INTO EXPENDITURES, THESE ARE OUR GENERAL GOVERNMENT, UH, DEPARTMENTS. 
          UH, THEY MAKE UP ABOUT 11.765 MILLION, UH, IN THE OVERALL BUDGET, UH, UP FROM ABOUT 11.22 MILLION, UH, FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR BUDGET. 
          UH, GOING ON TO PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, THE, THE LARGEST INCREASES IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THIS YEAR ABOUT, UH, 1.1 MILLION OVERALL 
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INCREASE, UH, OVERALL PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, GOING UP 28, 28, UH, 0.5 MILLION. 
          THAT MAKES UP OVER 50%, UH, OF THE OVERALL GENERAL FUND BUDGET. 
          UH, THAT INCLUDES POLICE, THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, UH, WITH, UH, INTECH AND THEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          FIRE DEPARTMENT'S INCREASING, UH, JUST UNDER $400,000. 
          AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE REALLY RELATED TO COMPENSATION BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE MOST EMPLOYEES. 
          UH, WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, $3.7 MILLION, UH, THE STREETS DEPARTMENT AT $2.5 MILLION. 
          AND THEN PARKS AND REC IS REALLY ALMOST NO INCREASES, UH, IN THEIR OVERALL BUDGETS, UH, FOR, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2027. 
          SO THAT BRINGS OUR TOTAL, UH, EXPENSE TO BASICALLY WHAT OUR REVENUES ARE, 54,573,000. 
          AND WHEN WE GET TO, UH, THIS FINAL SLIDE HERE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE IN FOR 2026, UH, TO TRANSFER SOME FUNDS. 
          UH, THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE DONE, UH, TO TRANSFER FUNDS TO OUR SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDS. 
          SO WE'RE ESTIMATING $1.2 MILLION, UH, BASICALLY IN SURPLUS SALES TAX, UH, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRANSFER AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WHICH WILL COME BEFORE YOU, UH, IN THE END OF YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT. 
          UM, IT COULD BE MORE THAN THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE $900,000 TO SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS, 300,000 TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, THAT LEAVES US WITH, UH, ABOUT 40.4% IN, UH, FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE FOR 2026 GOING FORWARD TO 2027 BECAUSE THE EXPENDITURES ARE GOING UP. 
          UH, AND THE FUND BALANCE IS REALLY NOT CHANGING. 
          THAT PERCENTAGE DOES GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT IS STILL ABOUT 9% OVER THE COUNCIL GOAL OF 30%. 
          SO WE'RE, UH, PROPOSING A BUDGET THAT WILL EFFECTIVELY END, UH, AT ABOUT 38.9% IN, UH, ENDING FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE. 
          AND THEN THIS IS OUR LONG-TERM PLAN. 
          SO THIS IS A 10 YEAR PROJECTION THAT INCLUDES OUR ESTIMATES FOR 2026, UH, THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 2027, AND HAS SOME ASSUMPTIONS GOING FORWARD, UH, FOR THE FOLLOWING NINE YEARS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WHAT, UH, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING OR, OR YOU KNOW, WHAT MAY TAKE PLACE, THAT THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO MEET OUR POLICY GOALS OF, UH, THAT 25%, UH, FUND BALANCE AND THAT, OR THAT POLICY OF 25% AND THAT GOAL OF 30%. 
          SO THE, THE SOLID BLACK LINE IS, IS THE ACTUAL FUND BALANCE THAT IS PROJECTED. 
          UH, THE BLACK DOTTED LINE IS THAT 30% LINE, UH, THE RED DOTTED LINE IS THAT 25%, UH, POLICY, UH, THAT THAT HAS BEEN SET BY THE COUNCIL. 
          SO THIS OVERALL FOR 2028 AND BEYOND ASSUMES ABOUT A 3% INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES. 
          UH, TWO AND A QUARTER CENT INCREASES IN SALES AND MIXED BEVERAGE TAXES. 
          THAT'S REALLY JUST TIED TO, UH, INFLATION. 
          SO IF THERE ARE ANY, ANY LARGE THINGS THAT COME IN THAT INCREASE THAT, UH, THAT, THAT NUMBER COULD BE HIGHER, UH, ABOUT A 3% INCREASE IN SALARIES AND 5% INCREASES IN HEALTH INSURANCE AND 1% INCREASES IN, UH, OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, WITH THOSE ASSUMPTIONS IN THERE, THAT THE GENERAL FUND REMAINS IN A SOLID POSITION, NOT INCREASING THE OVERALL DOLLAR AMOUNT OF FUND BALANCE, UH, BUT IT IS STILL, UH, OVERALL BEYOND THE GOAL AND THE POLICY, UH, THAT IS, HAS BEEN SET BY THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT GENERAL FUND BEFORE WE GET INTO SOME OF THE NONPROFIT? UH, I THINK WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THERE, STEVEN, JUST REAL QUICK AND BEFORE YOU, BEFORE YOU DO MOVE ON, BUT I'LL LET THE OTHERS ASK THE QUESTIONS FIRST. 
          IF, UH, SINCE CHANEL'S NOT GONE THROUGH THIS BEFORE, I KNOW SOMETIMES THOSE GOALS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE DOTTED LINES YES. 
          A LITTLE HARD TO UNDERSTAND. 
          MAYBE YOU CAN WALK THROUGH THAT. 
          SURE. 
          MAYBE AFTER WE TAKE THE QUESTIONS. 
          BUT CHRIS, YOU WANNA GO? THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, AND THANK YOU STEPHEN, FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ALL OF STAFF'S HARD WORK ON THE BUDGET. 
          UM, I HAVE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, AND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP GET ME A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO, I MEAN, I GET IT. 
          WE'RE REDUCING OUR TAX RATE BY PENNY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE 26, 27 BUDGET YOU'RE REDUCING, UH, OR WE'RE ESTIMATED TO END UP, UM, THIS YEAR WITH SALES TAX ABOUT 4%. 
          SO, I MEAN, I LIKE THAT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL BUDGET, WE'RE GROWING OUR EXPENSES FASTER THAN REVENUE. 
          RIGHT? AND I, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND WE CONTROL A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE 1% THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IN REVENUE, A LOT OF THAT'S FROM THAT 5% FRANCHISE TAX. 
          THAT'S ABOUT $900,000. 
          SO THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, ANY, ANY THOUGHTS ON, ON THAT? UM, AND BEFORE YOU ANSWER, THE BANKER ME SAYS THAT, UM, WE GOT SOME NUMBERS THIS WEEK WITH THE ECONOMY. 
          I MEAN, THE CONSUMER 
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IS DEFINITELY SLOWING. 
          UM, SALES TAX GETS TO BE A BIGGER AND BIGGER PART OF OUR BUDGET. 
          UM, SOME BAD NEWS ON THE LABOR MARKET. 
          UM, OVERALL, THE ECONOMY SEEMS TO BE COOLING A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO CAN YOU SORT OF GET ME COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT IN FRONT OF US BASED ON SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS? YEAH, AND I MEAN, I'LL GO BACK A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST CHANGES ARE BECAUSE THIS IS TWO THIRDS OF THIS FUND IS PERSONNEL, RIGHT? BOSS, RIGHT? IS ALWAYS GONNA BE PERSONNEL. 
          SO, UM, THE COMPENSATION, THE HEALTH INSURANCE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE MAKING UP REALLY ALMOST THE, THE MAJORITY OF THAT, THAT INCREASE IN BUDGET. 
          NOW, THERE ARE SOME DECISION PACKAGES, UM, BUT YEAH, IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT CERTAINLY COMES INTO A SUSTAINABILITY CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE ARE BUILT OUT MAINLY, SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF NEW PROPERTY ADDED TO THE TAX ROLL EVERY YEAR. 
          UM, AND A LOT OF THAT REVENUE IS COMING FROM, FROM FRANCHISE. 
          SO IT CONTINUES WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION. 
          ARE THERE OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR I TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THIS YEAR IT'S THE, THE UTILITY FUND AND FRANCHISE FEE AND USING UTILITY RENT FUND TO PAY FOR SOME DEBT SERVICE THAT THEY HAVE AS WELL. 
          UM, I THINK NEXT YEAR WE PROBABLY LOOK AT, UH, ARE THERE WAYS THAT THE HOTEL FUND CAN PAY SOME ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS? BECAUSE THERE ARE COSTS IN THE GENERAL FUND THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, TO THE HOTEL FUND. 
          SO THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT, UM, BUT OVERALL IT COMES DOWN TO PERSONNEL COST AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          IS THAT, UM, ANY NEW PERSONNEL IS GONNA COME WITH SIGNIFICANT COST AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND JUST INCREASES OVERALL. 
          I COULD, IF I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND HEARD YOU CORRECTLY. 
          I THINK YOU, WELL, I HEARD YOU SAY SOMETHING. 
          HEY, OUR OPERATING EXPENSES ARE OVER OUR OPERATING REVENUES, AND THAT'S NOT, WE DON'T, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD NOT BUDGET TO HAVE OUR OPERATING EXPENSES OVER OPERATING, OPERATING REVENUES. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT, AND THIS IS REALLY JUST THE GENERAL FUND. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE GOT OPERATING REVENUE 54 MILLION, 5 53 TOTAL EXPENDITURES OF 54 5 73. 
          SO THAT'S OPERATING AT BREAK EVEN SLIGHTLY BELOW BREAK. 
          WELL, YEAH, OVERALL, THERE IS A BASICALLY $197 REVENUE OVER EXPENSE. 
          UM, THERE IS A $20,000 SALE OF PROPERTY. 
          SO, SO, UM, SO OVERALL, I THOUGHT THE QUESTION WAS ON A PERCENTAGE BASIS THAT EXPENDITURES ARE GOING UP FASTER. 
          YEAH, THAT WAS REALLY MY COMMENT IS, AND AGAIN, AND I GET IT, LIKE WE, WE SET THE REVENUE, RIGHT? WE, WE, WE DETERMINE WHAT THE TAX RATE IS. 
          BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS BUDGET THIS YEAR, WE'RE GROWING EXPENSES FASTER THAN REVENUE BECAUSE OUR REVENUE ONLY GREW ABOUT 1% THIS YEAR. 
          AND A BIG PORTION OF THAT WAS THE 5% FRANCHISE FEE THAT'S HITTING THE, THE GENERAL FUND ABOUT 900,000. 
          UM, BUT EXPENSES WENT UP ALMOST 4%. 
          THAT WAS REALLY MY COMMENT. 
          GOTCHA. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO KEEP IN EYE ON. 
          YEAH, I, I THINK MORE OF MY RESPONSE WOULD BE, I THINK I UNDERSTAND MORE WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. 
          'CAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ESTIMATE FOR 26 COMPARED TO THE BUDGET FOR 27. 
          AND I'D SAY THAT WE MORE CONSERVATIVELY ESTIMATE REVENUE, UM, AND REVENUE HAS CONSISTENTLY EXCEEDED OUR BUDGET, MAINLY SALES TAX. 
          BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER AREAS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY MY POINT. 
          I MEAN, I, I, I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT YOU COME IN 4% LESS THAN WHAT WE THINK SALES TAX IS GONNA BE THIS YEAR. 
          BUT THAT'S REALLY WHERE I WAS GOING WITH MY QUESTION IS IF WE KNOW THE ECONOMY IS SLOWING HISTORICALLY, I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T SEEN, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR SLOWDOWN SINCE 2020 C-O-V-I-D-I WAS JUST WONDERING HISTORICALLY, HOW FAR DO THINGS FALL? OUR ECONOMY IS REALLY BOOM OR BUST. 
          IF, IF THE ECONOMY REALLY WAS A SLOW, DOES SALES TAX FALL 5% IN ADDISON? DOES IT FALL 10% IN ADDISON? SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION NOW, BUT THAT'S AT SOME POINT WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS IF SALES TAX DOES FALL BY 10, 10% OR 15%, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE GENERAL FUND? AND THEN MY ONLY OTHER THING THAT I'LL COMMENT ON THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS THE VALUES OF THE OFFICE TOWERS HERE IN ADDISON. 
          KEEP ME UP AT NIGHT. 
          SO I'D LOVE TO SEE JUST IF, IF YOU COULD BREAK OUT WHAT THOSE VALUES ARE DOING, YOU KNOW, WHAT OCCUPANTS OCCUPIES DOING AND WHAT VALUES YOU'RE DOING. 
          YEAH, I DO. 
          AND I, I KEEP TABS ON THE TOP 20 OFFICE TOWERS, SO I LOOK AT THOSE ALMOST EVERY DAY. 
          THEY KEEP ME UP AT NIGHT TOO. 
          UM, . 
          UM, BUT SOME OF THESE, BECAUSE, AND I'LL, I'LL GET INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT ALL OF THESE LARGE PROPERTIES ALL SUE THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AS WELL. 
          SO WHAT THEIR OLD, WHAT THEIR CERTIFIED VALUE MAY BE AS OF JULY 24TH WHEN WE GOT THE VALUES IS NOT WHAT IT ENDS UP BEING. 
          AND IT MAY TAKE TWO YEARS TO GET THE ACTUAL VALUE OF WHAT THEY, 
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YOU KNOW, GET THROUGH THE SETTLEMENT PROCESS. 
          AND SOME OF THOSE CAN DECREASE PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY, AND SOME OF THEM DON'T CHANGE AT ALL. 
          UM, SO I DO HAVE THOSE, AND I KEEP TABS ON WHICH ONES ARE UNDER LAWSUIT. 
          I'M SURE YOU DO. 
          I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT AND, AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          UH, BUT WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THOSE MAY CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY, THEY MAY NOT CHANGE AT ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO, AND IT TAKES A COUPLE OF YEARS REALLY TO GET ALL OF THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          WE STILL HAVE SOME FROM 2024, UH, THAT ARE UNDER LAWSUIT AND A LOT FROM 2025 THAT ARE STILL UNDER LAWSUIT. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST MAKE ONE MORE, I I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION ON KIND OF A RESILIENCY TEST OF LET'S PLAY SOME SCENARIOS OUT. 
          I THINK ONE THING, AND WE CAN SHOW THIS AS WE DO THOSE THAT YOU'LL SEE IS WE DO HAVE A VERY DIVERSIFIED REVENUE STREAM FROM OUR SALES TAX AND OUR VALOREM AND OUR SALES TAX. 
          WE'RE NOT RELYING ON ONE SEGMENT OF SALES TAX. 
          IT'S VERY DIVERSIFIED. 
          IT'S THE SAME THING WITH OUR ASSESSED VALUE. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY THE OFFICES IS OUR BIGGEST RISK OUT THERE, BUT WE ARE MORE RESILIENT THAN MOST CITIES WITH THE DIVERSITY WE HAVE. 
          BUT I THINK WE CAN SHOW THAT IN SOME OF THOSE ANALYSIS. 
          THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, THAT, AND THAT'S, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE SPECIFICALLY EVEN ONE SINGLE TAXPAYER THAT MAKES UP A, EVEN WITHIN THOSE DIVERSIFIED CATEGORIES, THAT EVEN MAKES UP A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THAT INDIVIDUAL CATEGORY. 
          THERE ARE SO MANY BUSINESSES HERE, UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE, WE'RE NOT RELYING ON REALLY ANY SPECIFIC TAXPAYER THAT IS, IS THROUGHOUT TOWN AS FAR AS SALES TAX GOES. 
          BILL, THANK YOU MAYOR STEVEN, ON, UH, THE GENERAL FUND. 
          CAN YOU JUST GIVE SOME LIGHT TO THE INCREASES ON FRANCHISE FEES AND SERVICE FEES FROM ESTIMATED 26 INTO BUDGETED 27? THOSE SEEM TO BE THE TWO BIGGEST AREAS OF INCREASES BY PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          YEAH, SURE. 
          THE, THE BIGGEST CHANGE ON THE FRANCHISE FEE, AND REALLY ALL OF THAT CHANGE IS RELATED TO, UH, WHEN WE MET ON JUNE 23RD, WE TALKED ABOUT USING UTILITY FUND TO PAY A FRANCHISE SIMILAR TO ANY OTHER UTILITY, UH, TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO $945,000 IS RELATED TO THAT SIMPLY 5% FRANCHISE FEE TO OUR OWN UTILITY TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          THAT MAKES UP REALLY ALL OF THAT, UH, SERVICE FEES. 
          UH, THERE ARE SOME INCREASES. 
          UH, WE'VE SEEN HIGHER AMBULANCE, UH, SO WE, WE BUMPED THAT UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          THERE'S SOME DEVELOPMENT SERVICE FEES, UH, THAT, THAT ARE UP. 
          UH, THERE'S SOME, UH, FOLKS IN OUR, UH, RECREATION, SOME OF THOSE REVENUES ARE GOING UP SLIGHTLY. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF REVENUE SOURCES IN THAT INDIVIDUAL CATEGORY, AND A LOT OF THEM ARE GOING UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE IS GONNA BE THE AMBULANCE, WHICH MAKES UP, UH, ABOUT, I THINK IS GOING UP $50,000 YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          SO, WHICH LEADS TO THE FOLLOW UP THEN. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, ARE ARE, ARE OUR TOWNS FEES TO, UM, ARE THOSE INCREASING AS WELL, IEA CITATION OR A SPEEDING TICKET? ARE THOSE FEES GOING UP EXPONENTIALLY? NOT, NOT THE INDIVIDUAL FEE COST, BUT THE VOLUME IS GOING UP. 
          SO, UM, AND NOBODY CAN PREDICT WHAT, WHAT REALLY AMBULANCE, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY, HOW MANY AMBULANCE TRANSPORTS THERE'S GONNA BE. 
          BUT OVERALL, WE'VE SEEN A TREND IN THE, IN MORE, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEIR COST INDIVIDUALLY HAS GONE UP OR WE'RE CHARGING MORE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. 
          SO THE SIMPLE, THE SIMPLE THING WOULD BE FOR ME, BY THE WAY, MY BRAIN WORKS, I GET A SPEEDING TICKET, I'M AN ADDISON IN 2020, THE SAME, IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME COST IF I'M DOING THE SAME SPEED LIMIT OVER IN 2027. 
          IT'S THE SAME COST. 
          AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION. 
          WHY WOULD THAT NOT, WHY WOULD THERE NOT BE AN INCREASE IN FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? WE'RE PAYING OFFICERS MORE, WE'RE PAYING OUR EEMS SERVICES MORE. 
          HOW DO WE NOT RECOUP SOME OF THAT INCREMENTALLY, I'M NOT SAYING DRAMATICALLY, BUT INCREMENTALLY ON SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A CITATION. 
          SOME OF THOSE ARE SET BY THE STATE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THERE'S NOT, WE DON'T HAVE THE LEEWAY TO, TO DO THAT, ESPECIALLY ON THE POLICE SIDE WITH CITATIONS AND THINGS. 
          UM, I'M NOT SURE OFF THE TOP WHAT WE EVEN HAVE FLEXIBILITY ON ON THAT. 
          JUST A QUESTION, JUST THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          JUST A BROAD QUESTION FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS IN A SENSE OF FEES OR FINES OR THINGS THAT WE'RE PAYING AS AN INCREASE, WHY ARE WE NOT INCREASING THOSE RATES? I KNOW, SAYING THE RIGHT WORD. 
          THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS ON DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IN PARTICULAR ABOUT, HEY, WHAT IS THE COST RECOVERY? AND HAVE A, A GOOD POLICY DISCUSSION ON HOW MUCH DO WE WANNA SUBSIDIZE THIS VERSUS HAVE THE FOLKS WHO, YOU KNOW, ARE BENEFITING FROM IT OR PAYING IT BEAR THE COST. 
          AND SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, STEVEN. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UH, SO CAN WE GO BACK TO SLIDE 31, PLEASE? UM, HAVE WE IMPLEMENTED THE, UH, STEP PLAN FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS IN THIS, IN THIS BUDGET? WE HAVE, IT WAS IMPLEMENTED 
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IN THE 2026 BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT IMPLEMENTED. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THINK THAT'S GOOD FOR NOW, STEVEN. 
          AND IF YOU WANNA JUST, IF YOU WOULD JUST GO OVER THE, UH, THOSE, THOSE RESERVES. 
          OH, YES. 
          UH, SO THERE IS, UH, AN ORDINANCE THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED IN OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES AS FAR AS, UH, WHAT COUNCIL'S, UH, RESERVE REQUIREMENT IS FOR CERTAIN FUNDS. 
          UM, AND THESE ARE REALLY OUR OPERATING FUNDS, SO GENERAL FUND, HOTEL FUND, UTILITY FUND, AIRPORT FUND, AND OUR STORMWATER FUND. 
          AND THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS 25% OF THE OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          SO THEY WANT RESERVES. 
          UH, SO IF WE HAD 10 MILLION IN OPERATING EXPENSES, UH, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE, UH, 2.5 MILLION IN RESERVES. 
          UM, THE GOAL, AND THEY ALSO HAVE A STATED GOAL IN THAT ORDINANCE, UH, OF A 30% GOAL ONLY FOR THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO IN THE GENERAL FUND, THE, THE MINIMUM IS 25%, BUT THE GOAL IS 30%. 
          UH, THE OTHER FUNDS DO NOT HAVE A GOAL. 
          THEY JUST HAVE THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF 25%. 
          SO AS I GO THROUGH THESE, AND I'VE GOT LONG, LONG-TERM FINANCIAL PLANS FOR EACH OF THOSE MAJOR FUNDS, UM, AND THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS THREE LINES. 
          THE OTHER ONES WILL HAVE TWO, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A GOAL BEYOND THE POLICY REQUIREMENT. 
          UH, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT DOTTED LINE. 
          AND THE OTHER ONES IS GONNA BE THAT 25% POLICY REQUIREMENT. 
          AND THEN THE, THE DARK, UH, FULL, UH, LINE ACROSS, WHICH SHOULD BE ABOVE THE DOTTED LINE IS GONNA BE THE ACTUAL PROJECTED, UH, RESERVES THAT WE HAVE. 
          DOES THAT, DOES THAT HELP? OKAY. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. 
          SO IS, IS THE OPERATING THRESHOLD 25% AND THEN THE CASH POSITION OR CASH TARGET IS 30% AND THEN THE SOLID IS ACTUAL? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          I DON'T GET TO NAME THESE, WHAT WE CALL THEM. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF SET. 
          SO YES, CASH, CASH POSITION IS OUR ACTUAL RESERVE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, THE, THE TARGET IS THE 30%. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE THRESHOLD IS THE 25. 
          LEMME CLARIFY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'VE GOT JUST A, A COUPLE OF QUICK FOLLOW UPS. 
          DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, THE ONE PENNY, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY EQUATE TO FROM A DOLLAR PERSPECTIVE INTO THE GENERAL FUND? JUST JUST TO THE GENERAL FUND? YEAH, SO IF WE GO TO, LET ME GO BACK TO VAL. 
          WELL, SO OVERALL GENERAL FUND, THE PROPERTY TAX RATE IS BASICALLY 39.20 CENTS. 
          UH, IF WE LOOK AT, UH, 1 CENT ON THE OVERALL TAX BASE OF, UM, THIS ENDS UP BEING ABOUT ALMOST 7 MILLION, 6.9 MILLION. 
          IF WE, IF WE SAY 7,000,039, UH, I GUESS 1 CENT ON 7 MILLION WOULD BE $700,000, 700,000. 
          ABOUT $700,000. 
          SO THE, THE 1 CENT TAX REDUCTION TAKES ABOUT 700,000 OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE 4% ACROSS THE BOARD, RIGHT? MERIT INCREASE. 
          CAN YOU HELP ME REMEMBER? SO THE STEP PLAN ANNUALLY, WHAT DOES THAT INCREASE? I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WE DID. 
          IS IT 3%? IT, IT DEPENDED ON WHAT STEP THE INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE WAS ON. 
          UH, BUT WE'VE INCORPORATED THAT WHERE EVERY DEPARTMENT GETS 4% AND THEY'RE ABLE TO BASICALLY DO THEIR, DO THEIR STEPS WITHIN THAT 4% POOL, BUT SPECIFICALLY ON POLICE AND FIRE, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT WE BUDGETED? WHAT IT IS IS A STEP 3% IS A STEP 4%. 
          IT DEPENDS WHAT STEP THEY'RE ON. 
          SO IT'S MORE IN THE EARLY STEP. 
          SO IF THEY'RE GOING FROM LIKE STEP ONE TO STEP TWO MM-HMM . 
          THAT PERCENTAGE IS HIGHER AS COMPARED TO, SO I THINK AT SOME OF THEM ARE FIVE OR 6% IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF STEPS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THEY, THEY TAPER OFF. 
          SO THEY BASICALLY GET MORE IN THE BEGINNING OF THEIR, OF THEIR CAREER THAN, UH, THE STEPS AT THE, AT THE BACK END ARE, ARE MORE PERCENTAGE WISE. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WAS TRYING, TRYING TO GET AT. 
          THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT UNIFORM, SO YEAH. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE AT THE MAX, RIGHT? SO THEY, IF THEY'VE BEEN HERE CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE AT THE MAX. 
          SO THEY'RE NOT GETTING, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS, SAY THE PERSON THAT'S AT STEP ONE, GOING TO STEP TWO. 
          I GOT IT. 
          DOES THAT HELP? APPRECIATE IT. 
          THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          NONPROFIT PROGRAMS. SO, UM, WE'RE, UH, GONNA GET INTO A LITTLE BIT, AND THERE, THERE ARE SOME OF THESE, SEVERAL OF THESE THAT ARE WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO, UH, THE OVERALL PROCESS FOLLOWED THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED IN APRIL OF 2025. 
          UH, THE APPLICATIONS 
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AND ALL THE PRESENTATIONS. 
          UH, I SENT OUT AN EMAIL YESTERDAY. 
          THOSE ARE IN YOUR ONEDRIVE. 
          UM, UH, THE, UH, COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE, UH, MEETINGS, UH, THOSE LINKS ARE ON THIS SLIDE IN BLUE, UH, HYPERLINKED. 
          UH, BUT OVERALL THE APPLICATION PERIOD WAS, WAS IN APRIL AND MAY. 
          UH, THEY WERE DUE BY MAY 22ND. 
          UH, THE, UH, PRESENTATIONS, UH, MADE TO THE COMMITTEE WHERE JUNE 29TH WAS PERFORMING ARTS. 
          JULY 9TH WAS LOCAL SERVICE, UH, ORGANIZATIONS. 
          THEY BASICALLY DID A FIVE MINUTE, UH, PRESENTATION AND HAD A Q AND A, UH, FOR EACH APPLICANT. 
          IF THERE WERE QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE COMMITTEE, UH, THE COMMITTEE REVIEWED AND DISCUSSED, UH, FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE JULY 16TH MEETING. 
          THOSE FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS ARE WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          AND WE'RE HERE TODAY, UH, TO DISCUSS THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND IF, UH, THE FULL COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES OR GO FORWARD WITH THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND THEN, UH, BASED ON WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE FINAL BUDGET, THOSE FUNDING DE FUNDING AGREEMENTS WILL BE PREPARED AND, UH, BROUGHT TO COUNCIL EITHER IN LATE SEPTEMBER OR EARLY OCTOBER. 
          SO WITH LOCAL SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS. 
          UH, AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE THAT AREN'T IN THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH I'M GONNA GO OVER HERE AS WELL. 
          BUT, UH, OVERALL, UH, JUST FIRST MENTIONING ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION DID NOT SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR 2027. 
          UH, I BELIEVE THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD FUNDING, UH, CURRENTLY THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM THEIR CURRENT YEAR THAT THEY, UH, STILL NEED TO USE. 
          BUT THEY DO INTEND TO APPLY IN FUTURE YEARS. 
          UH, THERE WAS A NEW APPLICANT, CODY'S FRIENDS RESCUE, UH, THEY REQUESTED $10,000. 
          UH, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED $10,000 FOR THEM. 
          UH, THERE IS THE DALLAS CAT LADY, I REQUESTED 5,000. 
          THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED 7,500. 
          UH, THERE IS JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES, WHICH, UH, REQUESTED A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          UH, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED 75,000. 
          UH, METRO CREST SERVICES REQUESTED $187,129. 
          UH, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED 150,000. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE WOVEN HEALTH CLINIC, UH, WHICH REQUESTED 8,500. 
          AND THE COMMITTEE, UH, RECOMMENDED 2000. 
          SO THOSE ARE WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, UH, BUDGET. 
          SO THOSE AMOUNTS, UH, THAT ARE WERE RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE ARE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, THAT YOU HAVE. 
          THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER ONES, UH, THAT WERE INCLUDED AND HAVE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES OTHER THAN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          THERE IS TRAFFIC 9 1 1, UH, REQUESTED $25,000. 
          THE COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED 5,000. 
          UH, THERE'S METRO CREST CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WHICH REQUESTED 42,000. 
          UH, THAT IS WHAT, UH, ALSO WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE. 
          UH, THERE WAS ALSO AN APPLICATION FROM THE WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL. 
          UH, THEY REQUESTED 25,000. 
          UH, THE COMMITTEE DID NOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT. 
          SO I HAVE A SUBSEQUENT SLIDE, UH, FOR SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE. 
          UH, BUT BEFORE I GET TO THAT, ANY, DO WE WANT TO DISCUSS ANY OF THESE, ANY COMMENTS, UH, ABOUT ANY OF THE ORGANIZATIONS? DOES THE COMMITTEE WANNA CHRIS SPEAK? YEAH, I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTION I'VE GOT IS ON METRO CREST SERVICES, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M THE LIAISON. 
          I GO TO THEIR BOARD MEETINGS AND THINK THAT ORGANIZATION IS FANTASTIC. 
          I KNOW OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE INCREASED FUNDING. 
          SO OUR OFFICERS HAVE A RESOURCE TO USE IF WE HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH HOMELESS. 
          I GUESS I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE THOUGHT PROCESS BETWEEN TAKING 'EM FROM 187,000 150,000. 
          YOU GOOD? YEAH, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT AS BEST I CAN. 
          UM, SO I, I SERVED AS THE CHAIR AND ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, BUT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN SHARED IS THE BASICALLY CITY COUNCIL QUESTIONS. 
          IN THIS CASE, I WOULD CALL IT COMMITTEE COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. 
          UM, AND THEY'VE BEEN SHARED WITH ALL OF US. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK THEY WERE SHARED MAYBE UNTIL YESTERDAY. 
          I'M NOT, I'M NOT CERTAIN ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT, UM, SO, SO, UM, THERE WAS VERY HELPFUL, INSIGHTFUL INFORMATION. 
          UM, AND SO ONE OF THE, BASICALLY ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS, IS WHAT IS, WHAT ARE THE SERVICES, UH, BEING PROVIDED, UM, UH, IN COMPARISON TO THE, I WOULD CALL IT THE HEALTH SERVICES? SO METRO CREST SERVICES, JFS WOVEN, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE OVERLAP? 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF OVERLAP BETWEEN THOSE THREE, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH JFS AND METRO CREST SERVICES. 
          AND, UM, I, I PERSONALLY WILL SHARE WITH EVERYBODY THAT, UM, I'VE, I'VE REVIEWED THESE NONPROFIT APPLICATIONS FOR FOUR MORE YEARS AND, AND, UM, THEY'RE ALL GREAT. 
          BUT BY FAR, JFS AND METROCREST SERVICES ARE THE, IN MY OPINION, THE PLATINUM, PLATINUM. 
          I MEAN, I MEAN, EVERY, EVERY SINGLE 
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QUESTION IS ANSWERED PERFECTLY. 
          THE THE, THE DONORS, THE, THE LEVEL OF DONORS. 
          I MEAN, YOU JUST, IT'S JUST PERFECTION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANNA SHARE THAT. 
          SO, UM, WE, WE GOT INTO THAT AND, UM, AND OBVIOUSLY JFS IS NEW IN TOWN AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE EXTREMELY, UH, POSITIONED WELL WITH, WITH WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED AND EASE OF EASE OF, OF OUR, UM, ADDISON RESIDENTS WHO NEED THOSE SERVICES TO GET TO. 
          SO, UH, WE REALIZED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP. 
          AND SO, UH, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THOSE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT METRO CREST SERVICES, WE DIDN'T JUST LOOK AT IT AS THAT. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT METRO CREST SERVICES, JFS AND WOVEN ALL TOGETHER. 
          UM, AND JFS ASKED FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          UH, THEY'RE SERVING 600 RESIDENTS. 
          UM, METRO CREST SERVICES, THEY ASKED FOR 187,129. 
          I THINK THEY'RE SERVING 1004 40, I BELIEVE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE WERE LOOKING AT THOSE THREE COLLECTIVELY AND WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE PROVIDING OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, IT WAS A DIFFICULT ONE, UM, BUT I THINK THE MAYOR RECOMMENDED SUGGESTED, UM, WHERE WE LANDED, WHICH IS ONE 50 FOR METROCREST SERVICES AND $75,000 FOR JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES. 
          AND SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THOSE, WE WERE REALLY LOOKING AT BOTH OF THOSE, UM, AT THE SAME TIME. 
          AND THAT'S NOT PERFECTLY WHERE I WAS RECOMMENDING, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT I GOT MY RECOMMENDATION OUT, BUT, UM, I THOUGHT WHAT THE MAYOR WAS RECOMMENDING MADE SENSE, UM, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE WHOLE, RATHER THAN JUST THE, JUST THE ONE NONPROFIT. 
          AND THE, AND THE COMMITTEE WAS NOT ALIGNED ON, ON THIS, JUST SO YOU KNOW, UH, THE, THE ORIGINAL NUMBER FOR METROCREST THAT WAS, UH, UH, DISCUSSED WAS CONSIDERABLY LOWER THAN THAT. 
          AND SO I WAS GLAD THAT WE, WE WERE ABLE TO END UP HERE WITH IT. 
          UM, I'M STILL NOT PARTICULARLY HAPPY WITH IT MYSELF, BUT I WAS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THE COUNCIL DISCUSS IT AS WELL, UM, AND SEE WHERE WE, WHERE WE END UP WITH THAT. 
          YEAH, MY ONLY THOUGHT IS, I KNOW THERE'S SOME SPECIFIC SERVICES THAT WE WERE RELYING ON FOR METROCREST SERVICES, AND I MEAN, ARE, DO WE KNOW THAT IF WE REDUCE THEIR FUNDING, THEIR SERVICE LEVEL TO US WILL STAY THE SAME? I GUESS IS REALLY MY QUESTION. 
          I, AND I GUESS SPECIFICALLY WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS I KNOW WE, WE HAVE PROVIDED OUR OFFICERS CONTACT INFORMATION, THE METRO CREST TO BE A RESOURCE FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THEY MIGHT RUN INTO. 
          SO I HOPE THAT WILL STILL BE AVAILABLE AT THE LEVEL IT IS NOW IF WE REDUCE THEIR FUNDING. 
          YEAH, I JUST, KNOWING METRO METROCREST AND THE QUA AND THE QUALITY OF AN ORGANIZATION, THEY ARE, MY, MY, UH, MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LOWER THEIR LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO FIGURE IT OUT SOMEHOW. 
          BUT, UM, BUT I, BUT I THINK OUR, OUR SHOW OF SUPPORT IS, UH, IS IMPORTANT AS WELL BECAUSE THAT, UH, WHEN WE, WHEN WE BUMPED UP THERE, BECAUSE WE DID A BUDGET AMENDMENT A COUPLE YEARS AGO, DIDN'T WE, TO INCREASE, OR I GUESS IT WAS A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO INCREASE THE FUNDING FOR THAT HOMELESS OUTREACH AND THE WORK THEY WERE DOING WITH THAT. 
          AND THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, PART OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          AND THAT IS NOT OVERLAPPED ANYWHERE ELSE WITH THE OTHER GROUPS. 
          SO, SO THAT'S WHY I FELT COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THEIR, WITH WHAT THEIR ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS. 
          SO MAYOR, DID THEY COME IN AS A PART OF THE PRESENTATION? I'M SORRY, I DID NOT WATCH IT. 
          AND I WILL THANK YOU FOR SENDING THE LINK, UM, WITH FOOD SERVICES, THE FOOD PANTRIES. 
          'CAUSE THAT, THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR OVERLAPS, CORRECT. 
          WITH JFS AND METROCREST. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND AT 1,440 RES ADDISON RESIDENTS, I HAD ASKED THAT QUESTION A FEW YEARS AGO 'CAUSE IT'S UP FROM 1200, 1200 AND CHANGE. 
          IS THERE EVER A, LET'S CALL IT A GRADUATION RATE WHERE SOMEBODY GETS BACK ON THEIR FEET, METRO CRES HAS HELPED THEM GET THAT JOB, GET THAT APARTMENT, GET THAT CAR, GET THAT, THAT REVENUE, THE NUMBER CONTINUED TO GROW. 
          IS THERE ANY LIGHT THAT, THAT WAS SHARED AS TO WHY IT'S GROWING AND WELL, EVERY, EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD WHEN I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE AT, AT JFS OR METROCREST OR NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK IS THAT, UH, SADLY THE DEMAND IS CONTINUING TO GROW A ACROSS THE, THE REGION AND THE, THE, THE COUNTRY, THE THE NEED BECAUSE THAT, THAT KHAP ECONOMY IS REALLY AFFECT A LOT OF FOLKS. 
          AND, AND, UH, SO, SO FOR ME, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING THEM IN A STRONG WAY, UH, IS IMPORTANT. 
          AND IF I, NOW ONE OF THESE, WAS IT, WAS IT JFS WAS JUST FOR THE FOOD PANTRY? IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT YOU REMEMBER? THEY WERE, AS FAR AS THEIR APPLICATION FOR THEIR APPLICATION, THEY, THEY FRAMED IT AS WE'RE GONNA USE IT FOR FOOD. 
          BUT, BUT IF YOU 
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LOOK AT, AT BOTH JFS AND METROCREST SERVICES, ON AVERAGE, THEY OFFER THREE, THREE SERVICES TO EACH ONE OF THEIR USERS. 
          THE COMMON DENOMINATORS, DEFINITELY THE FOOD PANTRY. 
          UM, BUT, BUT ALSO DAN TO YOUR QUESTION, UM, UM, METROCREST SERVICES SHARED SOME PAST HISTORY NUMBERS WITH US. 
          AND SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, AND NOW GRANTED, WE'RE COMING FROM COVID, SO WE'RE COMING FROM A VERY DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT SCENARIO OVER THE OVER 10 YEARS OF PERIOD. 
          BUT, UH, THEY WERE SHOWING STABILIZATION, IF THAT HELPS YOU WITH THAT. 
          YEAH, THAT ANSWER USER COUNT. 
          THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY SHOWED US ONE SLIDE AND IT HAD A GRAPH AND, YOU KNOW, COVID IT, IT HAD SPIKED. 
          BUT NOW, UM, OVER LIKE THE LAST TWO YEARS, THEY WERE SHOWING THAT, THAT THE NUMBERS WEREN'T INCREASING. 
          I'LL GIVE HUGE KUDOS TO METRO. 
          YOU'RE, BECAUSE I'M NOT SEEING THE, I'M NOT, AGAIN, I THINK OUR BECCA'S DEPARTMENT AS WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SEEING THE HOMELESS, UM, PANHANDLING ALONG OUR MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIRS THE WAY WE ONCE DID A FEW YEARS AGO. 
          SO I, I COMMEND METRO CREST BECAUSE THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH POLICE TO HELP THOSE NEEDY OFF THE STREETS, OUT OF PASSENGERS WAYS IN TERMS OF VEHICLE TRAFFIC. 
          BUT I'M GLAD THAT JFS HAS MOVED IN. 
          THEY'RE OPEN, I'M THEIR LIAISON. 
          I'M GONNA SPEND MORE TIME WITH THEM. 
          BUT THEIR FOOD PANTRY WAS AMAZING WHEN WE GOT THE TOUR. 
          AND NOW THAT, I GUESS THOSE IN NEED, HOW, HOW IS THAT MESSAGING STILL GETTING OUT? I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE GONNA GROW RAPIDLY AND THEIR NUMBERS GOT OBVIOUSLY GONNA GO TO OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, I WOULD ASSUME IN 28, BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL NOW REALIZE THEY'RE NOT IN DALLAS, THEY'RE IN ADDISON. 
          MORE WALKABILITY FOR OUR OWN RESIDENTS TO GET THERE, POTENTIALLY. 
          SO THANKS BRUCE FOR, AND MARLIN FOR CLARIFYING THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL JUST ADD, UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, DAN, AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M THE LIAISON, SO I'M, I'M MORE FAMILIAR WITH, UM, METRO CREST SERVICES THAN I AM WITH, UM, JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES. 
          BUT, UM, I'VE BEEN REALLY IMPRESSED WITH, UH, METROCREST. 
          THEY HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED PATHWAYS. 
          IT'S NOT JUST A HANDOUT, YOU KNOW, IT STARTS WITH RENT ASSISTANCE AND OBVIOUSLY FOOD ASSISTANCE, BUT THEN IT, IT LEADS TO MORE EDUCATION TO TRY TO GET SOMEONE EITHER EMPLOYED OR MAYBE A, A BETTER JOB. 
          AND THEY'VE HAD SOME REAL SUCCESS WITH THAT. 
          SO. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT, THAT'S ALMOST LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE ASSISTANCE ACADEMY GRADUATION, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF THEY HAVE AN INTERNAL GRADUATION FOR THOSE THAT GET OFF THE PROGRAM. 
          YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW THAT. 
          YEAH, THERE'S SOME GREAT STORIES, UM, THAT I CAN, I CAN SHARE WITH YOU. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          AND I THINK GET SOME OF THE OVERLAP ALSO BETWEEN, BECAUSE JFS DOES SIMILAR, THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE VERY MUCH ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GIVING A HAND UP, NOT JUST A HANDOUT AND HELP PEOPLE GET, GET OUT OF THERE, GET TO A BETTER PLACE. 
          YEAH, I'D LOVE TO HEAR SOME OF THOSE SUCCESS STORIES, EVEN LET'S SAY A FRIDAY NEWSLETTER. 
          I MEAN, FOR THAT MATTER, JUST, JUST TO CONGRATULATE THOSE IN NEED HAVE GRADUATED UP AND OUT. 
          SO I, I GET A NEWSLETTER, I, I CAN, I CAN SEND THAT OUT OR SEND THAT TO STAFF AND MAYBE THEY CAN SHARE SOME OF THOSE SUCCESSES. 
          YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          UM, THE, THE ONLY THING I'LL ADD IS I WOULD SUPPORT FUNDING THEM AT THE LEVEL WE DID LAST YEAR. 
          I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC ORGANIZATION THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR REAL, OUR OUR TOWN OUR OFFICERS USE. 
          SO I JUST WENT THROUGH THAT OUT THERE. 
          OKAY, THANKS CHRIS. 
          SO I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WOLFEN CLINIC. 
          UM, I KNOW THEY WERE LATE IN SUB SUBMITTING, UM, THEIR PAPERWORK. 
          UM, WHY WOULD WE JUST TAKE THEM DOWN TO 2000? I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT INCREASE. 
          YEAH, ME TOO. 
          UH, YEAH, I WAS, I WAS NOT IN AGREEMENT ON THAT NUMBER EITHER. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE MORE AREA WE WERE NOT ALIGNED. 
          I I WOULD WELCOME 5,000. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          YEAH, THAT'S, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, DEREK AND J AND JUST, JUST TO, UH, ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AGAIN, THE OVERLAP, JFS IS OFFERING, UM, THE SAME SERVICES, RIGHT? BUT JFS, THEY, THEY ARE FULLY, FULLY FUNDED. 
          WOVEN CLINIC IS A VERY SMALL CLINIC AND IT STILL DOES. 
          UM, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THEIR WEBSITE. 
          THEY, UH, SUPPORT, UM, I BELIEVE 30, 30 PLUS THOUSAND, UM, PATIENTS IS SERVED. 
          SO THERE, AND OF COURSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S COMING FROM ADDISON. 
          I KNOW THAT MIGHT BE, UH, A QUESTION, BUT ADDISON RESIDENTS DO LIVE CLOSE TO THERE. 
          AND SO I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT SPILLOVER, THERE MIGHT BE SOME SPILLOVER THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WOVEN CLINIC. 
          AND SO I JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO, UM, YES, WE ALL LOVE JFS YES. 
          METROCREST SERVICES, YOU KNOW, I'M THE BOARD LIAISON FOR THERE. 
          BUT I THINK IF WE ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THESE CLINICS, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT CODY'S FRIEND RESCUE DOES TO GET $10,000. 
          I'M NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THEM. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, THE DALLAS CAT LADY, I DON'T KNOW WHO SHE IS TO GET $7,500. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT 
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MORE ABOUT, AND I'M SORRY, LIKE YOU DAN, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO LISTEN TO THE, UM, TO THE VIDEO, BUT I'M JUST VERY CURIOUS TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, CODY'S FRIEND'S RESCUE, I WOULD MORE LIKE TO SEE MORE MONEY GOING TOWARDS THE TRAFFIC 9 1 1, UH, FOR THE CHILD SAFETY FUND. 
          BUT, UM, CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CODY'S? YEAH. 
          HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU, DID YOU READ ANY OF THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS? I DID NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          IT, THAT WOULD SAVE US A LOT. 
          THAT WOULD SAVE US A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME. 
          UM, THAT, THAT'S, UM, TO, TO YOUR QUESTIONS, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD ANSWER THE MOST. 
          I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A QUICK SUMMARY, BUT WE, WE GOT SOME MAJOR STUFF TO, TO DISCUSS TODAY. 
          SO I'M, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THIS MAJOR TO ME AND TO FOLKS THAT NEED IT. 
          SO, AND, AND I DO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT READING, 'CAUSE I DO HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB, BUT I'M JUST ASKING ONE SIMPLE QUESTION. 
          WHO IS CODY'S FRIEND'S RESCUE? RIGHT. 
          I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, UM, ANSWER IT THE WAY I'M GONNA ANSWER IT. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          SO IF YOU READ THE CITY COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS FOR, FOR, UM, THE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE, WHAT YOU'LL LEARN IS THAT WHEN, UM, UH, ANIMAL SERVICES, OUR ANIMAL SERVICES GROUP, WHEN ANIMALS COME IN, AND, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS DOGS, THIS IS CATS, THIS IS, UM, REPTILES, THIS IS ALL ANIMALS. 
          OKAY? AND SO, UM, WHEN THEY COME IN, OUR ANIMAL SERVICES, UH, GROUP, OUR TEAM OVER THERE, THEY, THEY HELP, THEY GET THE, THEY GET THE ANIMAL AND THEY, THEY GET THE PETS AND THEY GET THOSE ANIMALS WHERE THEY NEED TO GO. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          AND SO, UM, WHEN THEY COME IN, THERE'S ABOUT 11, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS ON THE COMMUNITY, UH, YOU'LL SEE THIS ON THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. 
          THERE'S ABOUT 11 DIFFERENT ENTITIES, SPCA, CODY'S FRIENDS, DALLAS, CAT LADY OPERATION KINDNESS, AND THE LIST GOES ON. 
          SO, SO, UM, CODY'S IS A, IS A FOSTER, UH, FOSTER HOME, UH, FOCUSED ON DOGS. 
          SO WHEN THOSE, WHEN THOSE DOG OPPORTUNITIES COME IN AND CODY'S CAN, CAN, UM, TAKE SOME OF THOSE DOGS AND THEY CAN FOSTER THOSE, AND THEY CAN FIND THEM THEIR FOREVER HOME, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. 
          THAT'S GOAL NUMBER ONE, RIGHT? WE WANT TO GET, BUT, BUT ALSO THAT, THAT COMES INTO PLAY WITH, UM, ALL AMERICAN DOGS. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT A CONTRACT FOR THEM WHERE THEY TAKE IN, UH, NOT JUST DOGS, THEY'RE CALLED ALL AMERICAN DOGS, BUT THEY TAKE IN PETS. 
          SO, SO AFTER 200 PETS PER YEAR, WELL, I THINK THE PRICE IS $275 AN ANIMAL. 
          SO THAT'S WHEN, THAT'S WHEN STUFF ESCALATES BUDGET WISE AND PRICE WISE. 
          SO ALL OF THESE, UM, THERE'S, AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE IT IN THE QUESTIONS, BUT THERE'S ABOUT 11 DIFFERENT ENTITIES AND THEY ALL HELP, UM, WHETHER IT'S PLACING THE ANIMAL OR, UM, YOU KNOW, DALLAS CAT LADY, UM, TNR, UM, HELPING, HELPING THOSE, THOSE CATS GET MEDICAL TREATMENT AND, UM, GETTING THEM FIXED SO THEY DON'T PRODUCE AN CATS RUNNING AROUND ALL OVER THE, ALL OVER THE CITY. 
          BUT, UM, SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT CODYS? YES, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WOVEN, SO WOVEN, YOU SAID, I THINK YOU SAID 30,000, 33,000 PEOPLE THAT THEY SERVE. 
          SO WHEN WE FOCUS ON THESE NONPROFITS, WE, UM, THERE IS A BIG FOCUS ON, ON, IT'S GOTTA BE ADDISON RESIDENTS. 
          THEY'VE GOTTA SERVE OUR COMMUNITY IN SOME CAPACITY. 
          UH, WOVEN WOVENS, UH, STATES THEY SERVE A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED ADDISON RESIDENTS. 
          SO, SO THAT, AND THE OVERLAP WITH JFS WAS SOME OF THE REASONS. 
          UM, WE HAD SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE CAME WITH, BUT AGAIN, I'M DRIVING AT DOES $5,000 FOR WOVEN WORK FOR THIS COUNCIL RATHER THAN TWO THOU. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT 2000 THAT, THAT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH. 
          UM, IF 5,000 WORKS, I'M OPEN TO THAT AND IF NOT, THAT'S WHAT THE, WELL, I WOULD CERTAINLY PREFER TO DO THAT SINCE THAT'S WHAT WE FUNDED THAT LAST YEAR. 
          I'D PREFER THAT OVER THE 2000 THAT WE ENDED UP WITH. 
          I, I, I DIDN'T LIKE THAT AT ALL. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK WOVEN IS AT METRO CREST SERVICES, I WANNA SAY A FEW TIMES A MONTH AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, I FEEL LIKE OUR S WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO THE WOVEN CLINIC OR GOING THROUGH METRO CREST ARE, ARE USING THOSE SERVICES. 
          SO I'D, I'D SUPPORT 5,000. 
          CAN'T REALLY MEASURE IT, BUT, BUT I, I SUPPORT 5,000. 
          GOOD. 
          SO HOW FAR DO WE NEED TO GET ON THIS TODAY TO, TO FINISH THIS UP? ARE WE GONNA HAVE A FURTHER SESSION ON THIS? I MEAN, IDEALLY WE GET DIRECTION TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'VE GOT MORE THAN JUST THIS ONE TO TALK ABOUT. 
          SO ON WOVEN MY I QUESTION, WHY DON'T THEY CONSOLIDATE WITH METROCREST SERVICES IF THEY'RE NOT ALREADY DOING SO? I MEAN THOSE, THAT'S, THAT'S SOME OF 
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THE THINGS, BUT I COULD GO 5,000 AND NOT NOT BE CONCERNED BECAUSE I, I LOOK AT THE TOTAL FUNDING FOR, UH, FOR LAST YEAR, 2 87 AT, AT THIS GROUP OF, OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          AND THIS YEAR WE'RE AT 2 44, SO, OR LESS. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. 
          UM, AND I THINK PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT, DARREN, WAS THE FACT THAT, UH, UH, ARBOR FOUNDATION DID NOT DO A REQUEST. 
          AND SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO OVEREXTEND. 
          SURE, OKAY. 
          THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          SO IN THAT CASE, WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY MORE THAN THAN LAST YEAR WITH THE ARBOR. 
          AND WE CAN CHANGE THESE EVERY YEAR, UM, ON JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I TOURED THEM WHEN THEY WERE IN THEIR OLD FACILITY, OBVIOUSLY VERY INVOLVED AS THEY MOVED IN THE NEW FACILITY. 
          I'M GLAD THEY'RE HERE. 
          THEY ARE, UH, FULLY FUNDED BY THEIR FUNDING SOURCES. 
          AND, UH, I, I HAVE A HEARTBURN WITH FOUR XING, THEIR, THEIR FUNDING FROM US, UH, TAKING AWAY FROM METRICAL SERVICES. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF MY, MY THOUGHT AND METRICAL SERVICES IS, IS TRIED AND TRUE, PROVEN. 
          UM, I WOULD, UM, BE MORE FAVORABLE OF INCREASING JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES, BUT NOT BY THAT MUCH. 
          AND I WOULD, I WOULD GO UP TO LIKE 37 5 AND I WOULD FULLY FUND METRIC SERVICES 180 7 MAYBE ROUND DOWN TO THAT. 
          UM, AND AARON, I, I SUPPORT THAT. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GREAT WAY OF LOOKING AT IT. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I, I APPRECIATE JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES, BUT THERE IS, THERE IS A, A, A LOT TO THE HISTORY THAT WE HAVE, THE PROVEN HISTORY. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF A TASK FORCE OR A FOCUS ON THE TWO AND, AND TO, TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THEM. 
          AND I THINK TIME'S GONNA HELP US LEARN MORE ABOUT 'EM ALSO. 
          SO JUST FOUR XING THEIR, UH, SUPPORT TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND FROM 25,000 BRAND NEW HERE. 
          UM, AND THEN CUTTING METROCREST. 
          I, I THINK THAT'S REALLY A, I THINK THAT'S A BAD FORM FOR US TO DO. 
          METROCREST HAS BEEN A FANTASTIC PARTNER. 
          UH, AND THEY ARE LARGELY, UM, LOTS OF VOLUNTEER, LOTS OF DONOR, AND I'M NOT SAYING JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES ISN'T EITHER, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, PUT THEM AT 37.5, THAT'S, THAT'S 50% MORE THAN LAST YEAR. 
          AND THEN METROCREST AT 180 7 AND THEN WOVEN. 
          UH, I'M FINE WITH INCREASING THEM ALSO. 
          I DO QUESTION DALLAS CAT LADY. 
          WHY, WHY DID WE GO UP 2,500 THERE? I WATCHED ABOUT 65. 
          THERE'S SIX HOURS OF VIDEO ACROSS THOSE, UH, THREE MEETINGS, BY THE WAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WISH RANDY WAS HERE SO I COULD THANK HIM. 
          AND THANK BRUCE. 
          YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB OF, OF EVALUATING THOSE AND ASKING GOOD QUESTIONS AND BEING VERY, UM, YOU KNOW, GRACIOUS ABOUT HOW YOU'RE ASKING THE QUESTIONS AND, UM, BEING OBJECTIVE, UH, ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY SERVE. 
          NOT JUST ADDISON, WE WERE VERY FOCUSED ON ADDISON AND I, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO JUST ADDISON, I THINK THAT'S 90% OF IT, BUT IT IS A GREATER REGION. 
          SO WE HAVE TO, WE CAN'T GO, YOU KNOW, DOLLAR PER CITIZEN THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SERVING JUST IN ADDISON. 
          'CAUSE OUR WORKERS COME FROM OUTSIDE OF ADDISON. 
          SOMETIMES PEOPLE FORGET THAT. 
          UH, AND, AND OTHER FOLKS THAT, UH, HAVE INVOLVEMENT IN ADDISON. 
          SO THANK YOU GUYS. 
          YOU'RE VERY DILIGENT ON THAT. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF DATA OUTSIDE OF THAT SIX HOURS THAT YOU GUYS, UH, DID ON THAT YOU FANTASTIC JOB. 
          THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. 
          I, IF, IF I HAD TO JUST WALK AWAY, UH, AND SAY I WOULD BE 80%, 70% GOOD WITH WHAT YOU DID BECAUSE YOU GUYS REPRESENT THE COUNCIL. 
          BUT IF WE DO TWEAK IT, THAT'S WHY I WOULD TWEAK IT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANKS FOR THOSE COMMENTS, DARREN. 
          AND I, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND, AND, AND I, I LIKE WHERE YOU WERE GOING WITH THOSE NUMBERS THERE TOO. 
          THAT, THAT WORKS WELL FOR ME. 
          AND UH, AND TO YOUR POINT, YOUR, YOUR LAST POINT YOU MADE ABOUT THE, UH, NOT JUST ADDISON, BUT REGIONAL, REGIONAL FOCUS, UH, THAT WAS SOME OF MY COMMENTS ABOUT THE, THE TRAFFIC 9 1 1. 
          UH, EVEN THOUGH THE, THE, THE WORK THAT THEY DO MIGHT NOT BE DIRECTLY AFFECTING ADDISON RESIDENTS, UM, THE WORK THAT THEY DO IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE I FELT COMFORTABLE FUNDING THEM AT A HIGHER LEVEL. 
          MUCH HIGHER THAN THE, THAN THE 5,000 THAT THE, THAT WE LANDED ON WITH THE, WITH THE COMMITTEE. 
          SO, BUT, SO IT SEEMS LIKE, DO WE NEED TO YEAH, CAN I, CAN I JUMP IN HERE? SO YEAH, WE SPENT ABOUT, UH, ALMOST SEVEN HOURS, UH, IN MEETINGS. 
          UM, BUT, BUT REALLY, UM, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, TO REVIEW AND READ ALL THIS PAPERWORK AND APPLICATION. 
          SO THAT'S, AT LEAST IF YOU DO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, UH, FOR ME IT'S A TWO HOUR PROCESS ROUGHLY. 
          UM, BUT I'M GOING THROUGH IT PRETTY QUICK 'CAUSE I'VE SEEN THEM BEFORE. 
          AND SO WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING, AND I'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A LOT OF VARIOUS EDITS. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WORKED THROUGH THE COMMITTEE, IT WAS NOT EVERY, NONE OF US 
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HAD EXACTLY WHAT WE WANTED OUT OF OUR, OUT OF OUR FUNDING RECOMME RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE, RIGHT? WE GOT THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THREE DIFFERENT IDEAS. 
          UM, BUT IT WAS HELPFUL TO HEAR THOSE DIFFERENT THOUGHTS AND, AND WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO THIS GROUP IS, UH, GOING FORWARD, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO, UM, UM, WANT TO HAVE ALL OF THESE EDITS, WHICH I DON'T EVER REMEMBER HAVING IN MY EIGHT YEARS, THAT, THAT ALL OF US GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME, RATHER THAN HAVING A COMMITTEE, UM, IS SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT GOING FORWARD THAT WOULD, IT HELPS BECAUSE IT FORCES ALL OF US TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND READ THE APPLICATIONS AND, AND, UH, LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATIONS AND ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AND READ THE Q AND A. 
          AND IT'S JUST, OTHERWISE, IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT COULD BE A GREAT WASTE OF TIME AND WORK FOR SOME OF THOSE ON THE COMMITTEE. 
          UM, IF WE, IF WE JUST RE EVERYBODY REHASHES IT. 
          SO I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT SOME EDITS THAT I WOULD SUGGEST IF WE'RE GOING TO, IF WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THAT WITH EVERYBODY. 
          EDITS TO WHAT, LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, FUNDING, FUNDING EDITS. 
          SO, UH, I'M, I'M PERFECTLY CONTENT WITH, WITH, WITH PAYING METRO CRE SERVICES, WHAT, WHAT YOU ALL ARE, WHAT SOME OF YOU ALL ARE RECOMMENDING ON THE 108 HUNDRED 70,000 1 29 REQUEST, THAT THAT'S THEIR REQUEST. 
          AND THEN, AND I'M PERFECTLY OKAY WITH FUNDING JFS, THESE ARE, THESE ARE TWO ENTITIES THAT ARE, AGAIN, THE PLATINUM STANDARD. 
          UM, THEY ARE DELIVERING, UM, AND THEY'RE DELIVERING IN A, IN A, IN A BIG WAY TO A LOT OF USERS. 
          UM, AND, AND THEY'RE SOLVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS THAT QUITE FRANKLY, WE WE'RE NOT AS A TOWN CAPABLE OF SOLVING. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S MY THOUGHT. 
          IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE EDITS, UM, I WOULD SAY WOVEN AT 5,000, THAT WOULD BE AN EDIT. 
          GIVE THE TWO, THE TWO JFS AND METROCREST SERVICES, WHAT THEY ASK FOR. 
          UM, AND, AND I'M GOOD WITH THE REST OF WHAT'S ON THIS SLIDE. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING TO DO JFS AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND YES, SIR. 
          A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO YOU WANT TO INCREASE THAT FROM WHAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED, UH, FROM WHAT YOU RECOMMENDED. 
          I WAS GONNA RECOMMEND SOMETHING, SOMETHING ELSE. 
          UM, I WAS GONNA RECOMMEND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THE COMMITTEE MEETING, BUT, UM, WHERE YOU WERE AT, UM, WITH METROCREST SERVICES AND JFS AND WHERE, WHERE RANDY WAS AT WAS A FAR, A FAR DIVIDE. 
          UM, AND I REALIZED THAT, AND, UM, AND SO YOU MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF $150,000 TO METROCREST SERVICES AND 75,000 TO JFS. 
          I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY FAIR AND REASONABLE. 
          UM, AND THAT'S WHY I, I FOLLOWED YOUR RECOMMENDATION. 
          BUT IF, IF WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING YOUR RECOMMENDATION, THEN WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS WE GIVE, WE GIVE BOTH OF THEM WHAT THEY ASK FOR. 
          OKAY. 
          I CHIME IN HERE. 
          I'LL DO IT REAL QUICK. 
          MAYOR. 
          SO FOR ME, RUNNING DOWN THE LIST, TOP TO BOTTOM BEING CODY'S IS A NEW ENTITY. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY WE UNDERSTAND THEY ALL ANIMALS ARE IN NEED. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHAT LEVEL OF SERVICE THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA NEED. 
          I'D LIKE TO CUT THEM IN HALF. 
          I'D LIKE TO LEAVE DALLAS CAT LADY WHERE THEY WERE LAST YEAR AT 5,000 BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING ON THAT BUDGET ANNUALLY. 
          I'D LIKE TO SHOVE THE 5,000 OVER TO WOVEN HEALTH TO BRING THEM UP TO 5,000. 
          AND I AM TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH METROCREST SERVICES. 
          I'M NOT COMFORTABLE TAKING JFS TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          I'D LIKE TO LEAVE IT AT 75 AND I'M DONE. 
          WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE OKAY WITH METRO CREST LEAVING AT THE ONE 50? NO, TAKE ME TO THE 180 7 1 29. 
          YEAH, BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH CODY'S, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE IS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE BRAND NEW ENTITY COMING AT 10 K. 
          IT'S A LITTLE STRONG. 
          I'D LIKE TO CUT THAT IN HALF TO 5,000. 
          JUST SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT, SEE WHAT THEIR EXPENDITURES ARE LIKE FOR THE YEAR AND LET THEM READDRESS IT FOR 2028. 
          I DON'T WANNA OVER COMPLICATE IT, BUT THERE, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS HERE HAPPENING. 
          UM, I, THERE, THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT DARREN'S COMMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT A LONG HISTORY IN THE AREA, BUT THEY'RE NEW TO ADDISON. 
          SO THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT GROWING OUR FUNDING TO THEM AND NOT IMMEDIATELY GOING FROM 25 TO 75,000. 
          I ALSO THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT YOUR COMMENTS, MARLON, BECAUSE I WAS PART OF THE PROCESS LAST YEAR AND WE SORT OF DID THE SAME THING. 
          WE, WE HAD A TON OF QUESTIONS, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HASH THIS OUT NOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE PROCESS OF HAVING THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS DECIDING THIS IS REALLY SAVING US A LOT OF TIME. 
          SO I'LL JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE. 
          UM, I'M, I'M, 
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I REALLY HOPE THAT WE'LL CONSIDER METROCREST AT THE, AT THE 87 1 29 LEVEL, UM, BACK DOWN JEWISH SERVICES A BIT. 
          AND I'M HAPPY, I KNOW THAT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION. 
          I'M HAPPY NEXT YEAR TO CONTINUE TO GROW THEIR FUNDING SOURCE. 
          AND I'M FINE IF WE WANT TO CUT CODY'S AND ADD TO, TO WOVEN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE HAVEN'T TALKED AT ALL ABOUT WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL YET. 
          THAT'S A TBD DOWN THERE. 
          WE NEED TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT, DON'T WE? WE HAVE A SITE FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          UM, AND SO THE TRAFFIC 9 1 1, UH, DO WE HAVE THE MONEY IN CHILD SAFETY TO HOW MUCH, BECAUSE I, I SAW THAT I SEEM LIKE 190. 
          WE HAVE, THERE'S, THERE'S RECURRING REVENUE THAT COULD COVER 25,000. 
          NO, I'M NOT TOO SURE ABOUT 25. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE, THE 25. 
          I I MISSED THAT ONE, SIR. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WHO WERE YOU ASKING ABOUT? TRAFFIC 9 1 1. 
          UM, THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THEIR ASK FOR THEIR INCREASED, UH, FOR THEIR ASK. 
          YEAH. 
          THEIR ASK. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OF US, UM, UNDERSTOOD THAT, THAT LEVEL OF ASK. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE DID MEET, UH, THEY WERE KIND ENOUGH TO, TO MEET WITH US AFTERWARDS. 
          UM, SO WE HAD A NICE MEETING OVER AT, OF, OF WHERE THEIR ING RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, I DON'T RECALL WHAT THEIR ASK WAS IN THE LAST YEAR, THOUGH. 
          I, I SEE WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH, BUT I DON'T RECALL THE ASK FROM LAST YEAR THOUGH. 
          OH, THE ASK FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MAY HAVE BEEN 15,000. 
          I'M NOT SURE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          SO SINCE IT COMES FROM A DIFFERENT FUND, IT, IT APPEARS THAT IT'S, UM, KIND OF ROUTINE IN DOING THE SAME THING AS THEY DID BEFORE. 
          I JUST HATE TO, TO RUBBER STAMP THAT. 
          UM, BUT I, I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO THE 15,000. 
          THEY'RE TAKING IT FROM GENERAL FUND. 
          IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY. 
          BUT SINCE IT'S CHILD SAFETY FUND, UM, AND ONE OF, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT CAME INTO PLAY IS HOW MANY RESIDENTS THAT THEY SERVE. 
          DID YOU SEE THAT? WELL, HOPEFULLY THE TRAFFICKING KIDS AREN'T, ARE RESIDENTS. 
          I MEAN, THERE, THERE WOULD BE TRAFFIC THROUGH IT. 
          THERE'S OTHER, UH, ANCILLARY EFFECTS OF, OF THAT, UH, THAT ACTIVITY. 
          OKAY, I'M WITH YOU. 
          BUT, BUT, UM, JUST KNOW THAT IN OUR AGREEMENTS, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TIME TO APPROVE AGREEMENTS, UM, IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T, IT'S NOT REFLECTIVE OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          SO THAT'S A, THAT'S PART OF THE, THE FUNDING AGREEMENT IS LIKE DELIVERING A SERVICE TO ADDISON, TO THE ADDISON COMMUNITY. 
          UM, SO THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY, UM, THE, OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS. 
          SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS PART OF OUR DECISION MAKING. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          SO WE NEED TO DO WE NEED TO GET SOME, UH, RELU RESOLUTION ON THIS? YOU'D LIKE THAT, WOULDN'T YOU? STEVEN? TH THAT WOULD BE IDEAL. 
          I THINK THAT, GO AHEAD DAVID. 
          I MEAN I THINK WE, UH, THIS CERTAINLY HEARD MORE THAN FOUR SAY METRO CREST AT 180 7, 1 29. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S RESOLVED. 
          UM, I THINK WE'RE CLOSE TO FOUR OR, OR AT FOUR ON 5,000 FOR WOVEN HEALTH CLINIC. 
          SO I THINK OUR, I THINK DAN THREW OUT SOME NEW NUMBERS FOR CODY'S AND DALLAS CAT LADY. 
          IT'D BE GREAT TO HEAR CONSENSUS ON THAT. 
          AND THEN THAT WOULD LEAVE JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES. 
          WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT NUMBERS I THINK AT THIS POINT. 
          SO TRYING TO, FOR CODY FOR 5,000 ON CODY'S, 5,000 ON CODY'S FIVE, 5,000 CAT LADY AND LEAVING JFS AT 75, I'D LIKE TO SAY ON CODY'S, I DO SEE THAT AS A POTENTIAL OFFSET FOR SOME OTHER, UH, BUDGET OR SPEND THAT WE HAVE WITH, UH, ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          UM, I THINK IF WE KEEP A, A, A, AN EYE ON THAT AND MEASURE THAT OVER THIS NEXT YEAR, WE'LL WE'LL BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY THAT MORE. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, I WOULDN'T JUMP TO 10. 
          I WOULD GO TO FIVE SINCE WE DIDN'T FUND IT THE YEAR BEFORE. 
          UM, YOU SAID FIVE ON CODY'S? ON CODY'S, OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE DALLAS CAT LADY. 
          UM, AGAIN, KIND OF THE SAME THOUGHT PROCESS IS, IS 5,000 WHAT THEY ASKED FOR. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE MEASUREMENT ON THAT SINCE WE ARE SPENDING MONEY, UH, EXTERNALLY ON, UM, THE, THE DOG RESCUE, THE PET RESCUE THING, LIKE TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS ALONGSIDE, 'CAUSE IT HAS SOME OTHER PEOPLE POINT OUT THAT CODY'S AND I WOULD ASSUME DALLAS CAT LADY KIND OF MAY BE FILLING SOME OF THAT GAP AS WELL. 
          SO $10,000 THERE MAY BE BETTER SPENT IN SAVING $50,000 ON WHAT WE'RE PAYING THE OTHER, OR A POTENTIAL OVERAGE ON PETS BEYOND THE CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT WE, UH, HAD ANTICIPATED. 
          SO FOR RIGHT NOW, FIVE, UM, AND THEN FIVE ON BOTH OF THOSE ON CODY'S AND CAT LADY, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S SAME AS YOU. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO DO WE HAVE NODS AROUND THE ROOM? YEAH, I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION. 
          SO WE HAVE 5,000 FOR CODY'S, DALLAS CAT LADY AND WOVEN. 
          AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? THAT SOUNDS LIKE WE, YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. 
          DO WE HAVE NODDING HEADS AROUND THE ROOM? 
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OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE GOT THOSE THREE COVERED AND J IF AND METRO REQUEST, YOU HAVE ENOUGH FOR THAT. 
          AND, UH, 75,000 ON JFS? WELL, WE'VE HEARD 37 537. 
          5 75 AND THEN MARLIN SAID 75 NUMBER. 
          OKAY. 
          WHERE ARE YOU ON THAT, CHRIS? I CAN, I CAN SUPPORT THE 75. 
          I MEAN, UM, AGAIN, I THINK DARREN MADE A GREAT POINT. 
          I MEAN, IF WE FUNDED AT 37 5 THIS YEAR, THAT'S A 50% INCREASE IN WHEN THAN WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. 
          I'M NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM THAT ORGANIZATION. 
          UM, BUT I, BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAD WITH THE METROCREST SERVICES, I REALLY DO THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO FUND THEM THE MENTAL LEVEL WE DID LAST YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND, AND I DON'T, I DON'T MIND GOING WITH THAT 37.5 'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT JUMP, YOU KNOW, STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF 37.5. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THAT FOR, FOR JEWISH, FOR, UH, JFS AND IT MAY CHANGE OVER THE NEXT YEARS. 
          JUST THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I, I'M JUST, THIS IS THIS ONE YEAR. 
          IT'S NEW. 
          WE'RE STILL LEARNING, UM, WHAT THEY DO, HOW THEY WORK, HOW THEY COMPLIMENT. 
          I MEAN, NEXT YEAR AND OVER THE NEXT YEARS, IT MAY BE THAT WE, WE DO CHANGE METROCREST AND JFSI MEAN THAT METROCREST GOES DOWN AND JFS COMES UP THAT THAT MAY BE THE CASE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE. 
          I DON'T LIKE OVERLAP LITTLE. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          AND I THINK, GO AHEAD. 
          I DON'T VIEW THEM AS NEW DARREN, JUST BECAUSE, LIKE, THEY MOVED INTO ADDISON, UM, WHAT, AT THE FIRST OF THE FIRST OF THIS YEAR. 
          BUT, BUT REALLY THEY WERE, HOW FAR AWAY WERE THEY FROM US BEFORE? HALF A MILE? WELL, THE 75,000, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TOLLWAY NEW, I'M SORRY, THE $75,000 DELTA IN FUNDING. 
          YEAH, I GET IT. 
          BUT WHAT, WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IS THAT RELATIVE TO THE, TO THE, TO THE RESIDENTS THAT THEY'RE SERVING. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY DIDN'T SERVE ADDISON RESIDENTS BEFORE THEY MOVED HALF A MILE TO ADDISON. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THEY'RE SERVING 600 RESIDENTS. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S, IM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS, IS IMPORTANT. 
          UM, IT'S A CORRELATION BETWEEN WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND HOW MUCH IS THAT WORTH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT, MARLON, THAT, THAT I DON'T SEE THEM REALLY AS NEW EITHER. 
          AND THAT'S WHY, FOR ME, THE FACT THAT THEY MOVED TO ADDISON DOESN'T NECESSARILY JUSTIFY THAT THAT BIG OF A JUMP AGREED. 
          BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL SERVING A VERY SIMILAR, UH, GROUP OF FOLKS, I WOULD THINK IS WHEN THEY WERE ACROSS THE TOLLWAY. 
          SO, UH, I THINK I, I THINK I WOULD BE OKAY WITH, UH, WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THAT, DARREN. 
          AND PART OF MY GUIDING PRINCIPLE HERE IS TRY NOT TO SPEND MORE MONEY THAN WE'RE SPENDING. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S THE STAYING IN BUDGET, I GUESS I, WE, WE COULD GIVE ALL OF 'EM THEIR FULL ASK, BUT I DON'T WANNA GO UP. 
          YEAH, I, I CAN SUPPORT THAT. 
          UH, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT GIVES US ANOTHER YEAR TO FIGURE OUT WHAT REALLY THEY'RE SERVING OUR RESIDENTS. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR APPLICATION 25 TO 26, THEY SERVE 330 ADDISON RESIDENTS. 
          UH, THEY'RE PROJECTING 600. 
          SO I'D LOVE TO KNOW IF THAT REALLY GREW BY THAT MUCH. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'LL HAVE MORE HISTORY BEHIND US. 
          EXACTLY. 
          A HERE FROM NOW. 
          DAN. 
          WHAT, HOW ABOUT, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE , THE CONSENSUS HAS ALREADY HEADACHE TO 37.5. 
          YOU NEED DOWN ON THAT. 
          LES CHANEL, YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND. 
          I MEAN, SORT OF SWING THINGS. 
          IF YOU FEEL 70 FIVE'S ADEQUATE, OR YOU FEELING 37 POINT FIVE'S THE NUMBER, UM, I WOULD TEND TO GO LOWER ONLY BECAUSE, UH, IN MY HEAD THEY ARE SO WELL FUNDED AND I'M ALWAYS FOR THE SMALLER GUY . 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD MEASURE IT NEXT YEAR. 
          SO, SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE A 37.5 MAYOR. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK WE CAN MOVE ON FROM THIS SLIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE FUTURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, A LITTLE MORE, UM, OF A SCORECARD FOR ALL OF THE, UM, UH, NONPROFITS OR LOCAL SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS. 
          THERE'S GONNA BE THINGS THAT WE CAN QUANTIFY THAT WE CAN'T QUANTIFY, BUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN, AND WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS IT. 
          I MEAN, OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, BEEN A LOT OF MOVEMENT TOWARDS, UM, MAKING IT MORE OF A APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON. 
          SO JUST FOR THE FUTURE, AND THEN SOMETHING I'LL BRING BACK UP IN BUDGET, I MEAN A STRATEGIC PLANNING. 
          SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING ON TO, UH, AS I MENTIONED, THERE WAS, UH, ONE THAT THERE WAS NOT A RECOMMENDATION ON FROM THE, UH, COMMITTEE MEETINGS, AND THAT WAS WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL. 
          UH, SO THEIR REQUEST, AND THIS IS JUST A DETAIL OF WHAT THEIR REQUEST, UH, WAS, BUT THEY, UH, SUPPORT, UH, ADDISON'S COMMUNITY PROFILE BY CONNECTING ADDISON TO TIMELY INFORMATION, HIGH LEVEL NETWORKS, ELEVATING ADDISON'S REPUTATION, FOSTERING CIVIL DIS DISCOURSE AND CROSS-CULTURAL UNDERSTANDING. 
          UH, THEY, UH, THE PROGRAMMING THAT THEY WAS INCLUDED IN THEIR APPLICATION WAS, UH, TWO PUBLIC PROGRAMS, A TABLE FOR 10 AT THE MALLON AWARD DINNER, AND 25 PROGRAM PASSES 
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FOR ADDISON REPRESENTATIVES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          UH, THEIR REQUEST WAS, UH, $25,000. 
          UM, AND, UH, I BELIEVE THAT WAYNE MAY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THE COUNCIL, UH, WOULD LIKE. 
          BUT, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHAT THEIR REQUEST WAS. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS WAS, UH, FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T AWARE, YOU, THE ADDISON WAS A MEMBER OF THE WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL FOR A HANDFUL OF YEARS. 
          UM, UNTIL WHEN WAS THAT? WE GOT OUT 20, 20 20 MY FIRST YEAR OF 2023. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SORRY. 
          WELL, THE DECISION BY COUNCIL AT THE TIME, I THINK IT WAS JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY OFFERING IN ADDISON, AND IT WASN'T TOO MUCH. 
          AND, AND AT THE TIME, AND, AND IT STILL IS THE TRUTH TODAY, THERE'S NOT MANY CITIES THAT ARE PART OF THE WORLD'S AFFAIRS COUNCIL. 
          SO I THINK IT WAS JUST A DECISION OF, HEY, WHAT ARE WE GETTING NOW VERSUS WHAT'S BEING OFFERED? I THINK THE PROPOSAL THEY'RE BRINGING TO US TODAY IS DIFFERENT THAN THAT. 
          SO I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY WORTHWHILE FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. 
          UM, BUT IT, IT WOULD BE, WE WOULD BE KIND OF STEPPING OUT IN ONE OF THE FEW CITIES THAT ARE PART, PART OF THE  COUNCIL. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WAYNE EMERSON, EXCUSE ME, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE ONLY PARTNER CITY IF, IF WE DO THIS. 
          SO THERE WOULD BE SOME EXCLUSIVITY. 
          THE CITY OF DALLAS REALLY KIND OF, UM, HAD THAT, UH, MARQUEE ROLE. 
          THEY, THEY STEPPED BACK FROM THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THEN I DID SPEAK WITH THEIR REPRESENTATIVES. 
          UM, AND SO REALLY, I THINK, I THINK THEY'RE WILLING TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT THREE PUBLIC PROGRAMMING. 
          SO THESE EVENTS WOULD ACTUALLY BE HELD WITHIN ADDISON. 
          AND I THINK THAT KIND OF GOES, THAT TIES IN WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY OF BRINGING, UH, THOUGHT LEADERSHIP TO ADDISON VERSUS, UH, EXPORTING THAT OR GOING TO OTHER AREAS. 
          THEY'VE ALSO, UM, IDENTIFIED A STRATEGIC, UM, UH, DIRECTION WHERE THEY WANNA MOVE MORE TOWARDS THE NORTH DALLAS REGION AS, UH, YOU'RE WELL AWARE, UH, EVERYONE IS SEEING THE MOMENTUM, UH, MOVE NORTH. 
          AND THAT PUTS ADDISON IN A GREAT POSITION, AND THAT WE'RE SORT OF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT. 
          SO I THINK THERE COULD EVEN BE MORE OPPORTUNITIES BEYOND THE TWO TO THREE EVENTS THAT THEY'RE SPEAKING OF, UM, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE THE, THAT MIDDLE, OR I'M SORRY, WE'RE THAT MARQUEE, UM, GOVERNMENT PARTNER. 
          AND THEN THERE'S ALSO TONS OF OTHER ANCILLARY BENEFITS THAT AREN'T IN HERE, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE OTHER PROGRAMMING. 
          UM, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, UH, FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE, UH, THERE'D BE OPPORTUNITIES TO MEET WITH DELEGATIONS FROM INTERNATIONAL, UH, COUNTRIES, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY GET SOME SORT OF CULTURAL AWARENESS AND TRAINING IF WE EVER NEEDED THAT. 
          BUT, UM, THAT'S ABOUT, THANK YOU, WAYNE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE HAD THE, WE HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSION ON THIS, UH, WITH THIS, ABOUT THIS ORGANIZATION, UM, THINKING ABOUT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, AND THEN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD AROUND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND, AND HAVING EVENTS HERE THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN REALLY, AGAIN, CONTINUE TO CREATE THAT EXPERIENCE IN ADDISON FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. 
          AND, UH, UM, RANDY BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF, UH, THE, UH, OF A, UH, LECTURE SERIES SIMILAR TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT SMU DOES. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG DRAW. 
          AND, AND THE EVENTS THAT THEY HAVE. 
          UH, I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN INVITED TO TWO OR THREE OF THEM OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, AND THEY BRING IN A REALLY, UH, HIGH PROFILE AUDIENCE. 
          AND, AND THE SPEAKERS THAT THEY HAVE ARE REALLY SIGNIFICANT. 
          AND, AND THEY HAVE SOME, SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN ADDISON AS OPPOSED TO SOMEWHERE IN DALLAS. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S SOME REAL BENEFIT TO THAT. 
          SO I THINK GENERALLY THE C THE COMMITTEE WAS PRETTY SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THIS, WEREN'T, DON'T YOU THINK MARLON? WELL, WE, THEY BROUGHT SOMETHING AND, AND WE WERE, IT REALLY DIDN'T FIT, YOU KNOW, THEIR PRESENTATION DIDN'T FIT. 
          SO THAT'S WHEN, LIKE YOU SAID, RANDY SUGGESTED THE, UM, LECTURE SERIES, AND, AND THE COMMITTEE DID, DID WANNA LOOK INTO THAT. 
          THEY WEREN'T PREPARED TO DELIVER SOME PRESENTATION ABOUT IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME. 
          BUT, UM, WE WERE, WE WERE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT A LECTURE SERIES, AND, AND WE WERE VERY SPECIFIC THAT IT WOULD BE IN ADDISON MM-HMM . 
          WITHOUT A DOUBT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO WE ASKED THEM TO COME FORWARD AND KIND OF, OR COME BACK TO US AT A LATER DATE AND GIVE US, YOU KNOW, SHOW US SOMETHING IN MIND. 
          BUT, UM, I, I'M, IF IT'S COMING OUTTA THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND AND YOU'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, UM, IS THAT CORRECT? SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND, AND YOU SAID THEY'RE SAYING THREE PROGRAMS, BUT WE JUST, WE GOT TWO UP HERE, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE, THREE LECTURE SERIES, CORRECT? I THINK 3, 2, 2 TO THREE IS WHAT THEY PUT IN THEIR APPLICATION AND WHAT WE SPOKE ABOUT 
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ON THE PHONE. 
          SO I THINK THREE IS, YEAH, I WANNA LOCK, YEAH, DAVE SPOKE ABOUT MORE THAN LIKELY THERE'LL PROBABLY BE MORE OPPORTUNITY. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I, I JUST DON'T WANNA SPECULATE LIKE THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUNDING. 
          SO I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY IF WE CAN HAVE DEFINED THREE LECTURE WA MEETINGS, AND I JUMP IN, WAYNE, ADD, IS THIS SIMILAR TO LIKE THE BIZNOW SUMMIT YOU JUST HAD WHERE THERE'S A PANEL AND THERE'S QUESTION AND ANSWER? I'D SAY IT'S, I MEAN, I HAVEN'T BEEN, I'VE ONLY BEEN TO ONE IN WHICH, UM, UM, BLANK. 
          THE, THE FED CHAIR, FORMER FED CHAIR CAME. 
          IT'S, I'D SAY IT'S TYPICALLY MUCH MORE ELEVATED IN THE SENSE THAT YOU'VE GOT A MUCH HIGHER AUDIENCE. 
          YOU'LL USUALLY HAVE LIKE SOMETHING LIKE A FIRESIDE CHAT SIMILAR TO THE, THE LECTURE SERIES. 
          YOU ALL C-SUITE ATTENDEES. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, YEAH, IT JUST BOTH PARTS. 
          YEAH, IT PROBABLY DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROGRAMMING, BUT CERTAINLY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME VERY INTERESTING, UH, PIECES. 
          AND THEN THIS WOULD BE A SERVICE CONTRACT, SO WE COULD PUT IN SOME VERY SPECIFIC THINGS. 
          WE COULD, WE COULD LOCK IT IN THE THREE, UH, WE COULD PUT THE REQUESTS IF WE HAVE CERTAIN TOPICS OR AREAS, THEN WE COULD SAY, HEY, WE WOULD, WE'D LIKE TO KIND OF GENERALLY GO AROUND THAT. 
          BUT I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, UM, COLLABORATE AND REALLY KIND OF WORK THROUGH WHAT THIS PROGRAMMING LOOKS LIKE. 
          AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A, A PILOT YEAR. 
          AND SO I THINK EVERY, BOTH PARTIES ARE KIND OF OPEN TO SEEING WHAT WOULD WORK. 
          I, I COULD SUPPORT THREE AND I COULD SUPPORT THERE BEING GUIDELINES, STICKING POINTS THAT WE KNOW VERSUS BAKERY. 
          AND I, IF BEING LOOSE, AS LOOSE AS THIS IS RIGHT HERE, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT. 
          BUT IF THERE'S THREE AND IT'S FIRM AND WE HAVE IT SORT OF BUTTONED UP, AND THEN I'D LOVE TO KNOW, BRUCE, IF THERE'S A, IS A LINK WHERE THESE VIDEOED WHERE WE CAN GO BACK AND WATCH ONE OF THE ONES YOU MAY HAVE ATTENDED, JUST TO GET A FEEL FOR WHAT THOSE MEETINGS WERE LIKE. 
          GO. 
          WOW. 
          THE, THEIR READING. 
          YEAH. 
          THE ONE YOU, THE ONE YOU HAD ATTENDED. 
          THESE WERE, THESE WERE, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT VIDEOS OF THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT'D BE NICE IF THEY COULD CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE COULD GET MORE VALUE OUT OF IT. 
          I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF THEIR EVENTS AND THEY ARE ELEVATED AND THEY HAVE 'EM IN DIFFERENT PARTS. 
          UH, THEY HAVE ONE IN FORT WORTH, THEY HAVE ONE DOWNTOWN DALLAS, THEY'LL HAVE ONE IN PLANO. 
          SO IT'S A VERY NICE ORGANIZATION. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK IT'S A QUALITY ORGANIZATION. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN TO SOME EVENTS. 
          I, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE EVENTS HERE. 
          WE'RE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO RACK OUR BRAINS ON HOW WE CAN BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. 
          BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE REACH OUT TO SOME OF THOSE AND INVITE THEM TO THIS EVENT. 
          ESPECIALLY, IT'LL BE HERE LOCALLY. 
          IT'S FUN TO HAVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND. 
          I KNOW THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME BALANCE THERE. 
          SO I WOULD SUPPORT IT. 
          SO I, UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOOD TIME BECAUSE NO OTHER CITIES ARE PARTICIPATING AND WOULD BE AN EXCLUSIVITY. 
          I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF PRESCRIBING THEIR PROGRAMMING BECAUSE THEY SHOULD KNOW BEST WHAT, WHAT TO PROGRAM FOR THEIR AUDIENCE. 
          THAT'S UP TO YOU, BETWEEN YOU AND THEM. 
          I'D LIKE THE THREE EVENTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND, UH, SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR SURE THAT'S DEFINED IN THE SERVICE AGREEMENT, I THINK IS REALLY A, A GOOD PLAY FOR ADDISON. 
          IT'S BECAUSE WE ARE STARTING LAST YEAR AND EVEN A COUPLE YEARS BEFORE REALLY FOCUSING ON, ON ADDISON'S SALES, SALES, MARKETING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IS WHAT, WHAT WE LOOK AT ON THAT ASPECT. 
          AND THIS IS REALLY A GOOD VISIBILITY FOR ADDISON BEYOND JUST TEXAS, BEYOND JUST THE US, YOU KNOW, NATIONWIDE, UH, INTERNATIONAL, UH, HAVING SOME OF THAT FOCUS AS WELL. 
          SO I, I THINK IT'S GREAT. 
          I, I'M ALL FOR IT. 
          IT COMES FROM THE RIGHT FUND. 
          THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT, IT'S THERE FOR 25 THOUSAND'S. 
          REALLY NOT THAT MUCH. 
          UM, BUT I DO WANT TO GET AT LEAST THE THREE EVENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YES, LIKE THERE'S GENERAL SUPPORT FOR THIS. 
          YES. 
          NODDING HEADS. 
          OKAY. 
          COACH NEED ON THAT? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, WAYNE. 
          GOOD. 
          AND WE'RE GOOD WITH, UH, METRO CHRIS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          GETTING INTO, UH, DECISION PACKAGES WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          I'M SORRY, FIVE MINUTE BREAK. 
          YES. 
          WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. 
          IT'S 1111 RIGHT NOW, SO 1116. 
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WE GOOD? OKAY. 
          IT IS 1121. 
          WE WERE, WE'RE COMING BACK IN FROM OUR BREAK TO CONTINUE WITH OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION. 
          THIS COUNCIL IS SETTLING IN AND, UH, STEVEN LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT DECISION PACKAGES. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, AND YES, DECISION PACKAGES, UH, WE'RE STILL ON THE GENERAL FUND HERE. 
          UH, SO THERE ARE FOUR, UH, DECISION PACKAGES WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UM, OVERALL, THESE ARE ALL POSITIONS, BUT AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, SOME OF THESE HAVE COST OFFSETS. 
          SO, UH, WENT OVER THE HVAC TECHNICIAN A LITTLE BIT, UH, HAS A RECURRING COST OF 94,000, BUT REDUCES A CONTRACT BY MORE THAN THAT. 
          SO ACTUALLY CREATES A RECURRING SAVINGS. 
          WE HAVE ONE POLICE OFFICER, AN ASSISTANT BILLING OFFICIAL, WHICH HAS A PARTIAL OFFSET OF A REDUCTION OF A CONTRACT, AND THEN A STREET MAINTENANCE WORKER, UH, THAT IS SPLIT BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND AND THE, UH, STORMWATER FUND. 
          UH, SO THE NET COST OF ALL OF THESE IS A LITTLE OVER $206,000 WHEN YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, UH, THOSE, UH, COST OFFSETS. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE DEPARTMENT, UH, THAT'S REQUESTING THESE COME UP. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA START WITH BILL, AND HE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THE HVAC TECHNICIAN. 
          AND THEN, UH, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AS THEY'RE INDIVIDUALLY UP HERE, JUST ASK 'EM AS THEY'RE UP HERE AND WE'LL MOVE THROUGH THE FOUR, UH, FOR THE GENERAL FUND. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, BILL HOLLY, DIRECTOR OF GENERAL SERVICES. 
          SO, HVAC STANDS FOR HEATING, VENTILATION, AND AIR CONDITIONING. 
          THAT'S THE SAME THAT YOU HAVE AT YOUR HOUSE, RIGHT? YOUR AIR CONDITIONER. 
          UH, SOME OF THE ONES THE TOWN HAS THOUGH, WE HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED, OVER 150 ON ALL OUR DIFFERENT BUILDINGS. 
          SO THEY REQUIRE FILTERS AND CLEANINGS AND FLUID TOPS OFF, AND FREON OR REFRIGERANTS AND THINGS IN THOSE. 
          AND WE CURRENTLY CONTRACT THAT OUT WITH A PRIVATE COMPANY. 
          SO WE LOOKED AT WHAT THEY DID AND HOW MUCH IT COST, AND THEN WE LOOKED AT COULD WE BRING THAT IN-HOUSE AND DO THAT BETTER, UH, CHEAPER, FASTER OURSELVES? AND THE ANSWER IS YES, WE CAN. 
          AND WE SENT, UH, ONE OF OUR FOLKS THROUGH HVAC SCHOOL. 
          HE WENT AT NIGHT AFTER HE WORKED ALL DAY. 
          SO HE'S NOW CERTIFIED TO DO THESE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          AND HE'S MADE A BIG, BIG IMPACT ON THAT. 
          BUT THIS CONTRACT ENDS IN SEPTEMBER. 
          WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IF APPROVED, WE JUST WOULD NOT RENEW THAT. 
          THIS WOULD BE A NEW POSITION. 
          WE'D BRING THAT IN HOUSE. 
          WE'D HAVE A PERSON DEDICATED TO DOING ALL OF THAT MAINTENANCE. 
          AND THEN MINOR TO MODERATE REPAIRS AS WELL, WHICH I THINK IS AN ADDITIONAL SAVINGS. 
          AND YEAR TO DATE, WE'VE ALREADY, WITH THAT EMPLOYEE, WE'VE SAVED 50,000, UH, JUST WITH HIS EXTRA TRAINING. 
          SO WE HOPE THAT'LL JUST BE A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY, REDUCE OUR DOWNTIME, MAKE OUR UNITS LAST LONGER. 
          SO WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS A, A GOOD REQUEST TO MAKE. 
          UH, THAT'S CURT IN THE MIDDLE, IN THE COLD, THAT WAS UP ON TOP OF THE AIRPORT DURING ONE OF THE LAST FREEZES. 
          AND THEY'RE HIGHLY TECHNICAL DEVICES. 
          THEY'RE KIND OF MINIATURE COMPUTERS, A LOT OF ELECTRONICS, A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AND PIECES, AND IT JUST TAKES A LOT TO KEEP 'EM ALL UP AND RUNNING AND PERFORMING PROPERLY. 
          SO, WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          WE GOT ONE QUICK ONE. 
          DO WE NEED A PLUMBER? WE LITERALLY, BASIC PLUMBING, BUT, UH, AND PLUMBERS AND ELECTRICIANS ARE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE AND THE, THE DEMAND ISN'T THERE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE WATCHING THOSE. 
          AND THANKFULLY THE PARKS A COUPLE YEARS AGO DID HIRE AN ELECTRICIAN AND WE BORROW HIM FROM TIME TO TIME, WHICH SAVES THE TOWN MONEY. 
          BUT WE HAVEN'T REACHED THE POINT WHERE WE NEED A PERSON WHO'S LICENSED AS A PLUMBER. 
          WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH PLUMBING WORK. 
          THANKS, BILL. 
          CHRIS, UH, JUST COMMENTS. 
          UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE HVAC TECHNICIAN 'CAUSE I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. 
          THERE'S SOME COST SAVINGS THERE. 
          I, I, I WILL, DAVID. 
          UH, I WAS, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF DISAPPOINTED THERE'S A WORD, BUT ADDING SEVEN EMPLOYEES AND TAKING US AT 333, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE WORK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT FEW WORK SESSIONS, UM, I THINK YOU'RE REALLY GONNA HAVE TO PROVE WHY WE'RE DOING THAT. 
          I THINK THE, THE HVAC TECHNICIAN, THERE'S SOME OFFSET. 
          SO, UM, I, I CAN GET COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. 
          I, AND I KNOW THE OTHER THREE ARE IN THE AIRPORT, BUT, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REALLY THE THOUGHT BEHIND ADDING SEVEN MORE EMPLOYEES. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, FORTUNATELY, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THESE SLIDES RIGHT NOW TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE. 
          AND REALLY OUTSIDE THE POLICE OFFICER AND THE GENERAL FUND, THEY ALL HAVE OFFSETS. 
          AND SO THE GENERAL FUND, WE'RE ONLY ADDING ONE POLICE OFFICER. 
          THE OTHER ONES ARE AIRPORT FUND. 
          THEY HAVE DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCE, BUT WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH EVERY POSITION. 
          SO I REALLY LIKE THAT HVAC, UM, CATCHING NOTE, THAT'S THE THINGS I LOOK FOR IS, IS WHERE CAN WE TAKE 
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THAT OUTSOURCE AND, AND REINFORCE IT IF IT MAKES SENSE. 
          AND THEN VICE VERSA, UH, FOR SPEC, UH, PARTICULAR EXPERTISE AND WELL DONE ON THIS ONE. 
          THIS ONE'S GREAT. 
          AND THE OTHER ONES THAT I SEE, TO YOUR POINT, CHRIS, I, I LOOK AT THAT CRITICALLY. 
          'CAUSE THAT IS RECURRING, YOU KNOW, SALARIES AND JOBS, AND IF YOU HAVE TO SCALE BACK, THEN YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, CUT A JOB AND YOU DON'T WANNA DO THAT. 
          UH, SO I'M REAL CAUTIOUS ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, BUT GOING THROUGH EACH ONE OF 'EM, I, I SEE OUR STRATEGIC REASONS THAT WE'VE, WE'VE PUT IN PLACE FOR EACH ONE OF THESE. 
          UH, NOW I'LL COMMENT ON EACH ONE AS WE GO, BUT THIS ONE SLAM DUNK. 
          EASY. 
          THANKS, BILL. 
          UM, YEAH, I, I DO AGREE WITH, UH, DAN, UM, DAN, DARREN, UM, AND THANK YOU FOR COMING UP WITH THIS. 
          BUT MY QUESTION IS, UM, CAN YOU TELL ME THE TENURE OF THE GENTLEMAN WHO YOU, UH, SENT TO SCHOOL? THE, I'M SORRY, THE TENURE, HOW LONG HE'S TENURE. 
          HE'S BEEN WITH THE TOWN FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. 
          AND PART OF THE AGREEMENT THROUGH THE SCHOOL WAS HE WOULD, HE WOULD STAY MM-HMM . 
          UH, AND WOULDN'T JUST USE THAT TRAINING. 
          AND, AND OFF HE GOES. 
          HE'S VERY COMMITTED TO THE TOWN. 
          UH, HE'S BEEN A PART OF THE ADDISON COMMUNITY SINCE HE WAS A, A YOUNG CHILD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          HESS, UH, HE REALLY LOVES HIS JOB. 
          HE'S, HE'S GREAT AT IT. 
          SO WE'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT HIM TAKING THOSE SKILLS AND, AND GOING ELSEWHERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SURE. 
          . 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, 150 HVACS. 
          WOW. 
          I DIDN'T, NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. 
          THERE'S LIKE, THIS BUILDING HAS NINE, THERE'S 16 NEXT DOOR, THEY'RE, THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS, TO ME IS A EASY ONE. 
          THIS IS, THIS MAKES A TON OF SENSE. 
          SO I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. 
          THANKS, MARLON. 
          ALRIGHT, GOOD. 
          THANK YOU BILL. 
          AND NEXT UP WE'LL HAVE, UH, CHIEF FREEZE COME UP AND TALK ABOUT HIS PATROL OFFICER. 
          UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UH, CHRIS FREEZE, CHIEF OF POLICE, FOR OUR FIRST DECISION PACKAGE. 
          WE'RE REQUESTING THE ADDITION OF ONE PATROL OFFICER. 
          CURRENTLY WE'RE ALLOTTED 67 OFFICERS AS WE TAKE IT UP TO 68. 
          SO THE REASON FOR THIS IS KIND OF MULTI, UH, FACETED. 
          ONE IS WE PROVIDE A VERY, VERY HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS. 
          UM, SO THIS JUST KEEPS, WITH THAT COMMITMENT, AS WE LOOK AT MORE DENSITY GROWTH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THOSE PATROL FUNCTIONS OF OUR OFFICERS RESPONDING, KEEPING OUR RESPONSE TIMES LOW. 
          THE SECOND ONE IS KIND OF A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE. 
          UM, BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT CITY MANAGER'S, OFFICE COUNCIL'S DONE WITH STEP PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, TAKING CARE OF OUR OFFICERS, WE'RE ABLE, WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE APPLICANTS COMING IN. 
          IN THE PAST, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THIS IDEA OF, UM, OVER HIRES, UM, BUT WE NEVER REALLY GOT TO THAT POINT, RIGHT? BECAUSE OUR STAFFING WASN'T AT THE LEVEL THAT IT IS NOW. 
          NOW WE ARE FULLY STAFFED, WE'VE BEEN FULLY STAFFED. 
          SO NOW WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT ADDING THOSE POSITIONS AND, UM, BUDGETING FOR THOSE POSITIONS AS APPLICANTS COME IN. 
          SO THIS STAYS WITH THAT COMMITMENT TO ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE PROVIDING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE WANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND MAINTAINING OUR, OUR MINIMUM STAFFING LEVELS WITHIN THE PATROL DIVISION. 
          UM, AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS, DAN. 
          THANKS, CHIEF. 
          QUICK QUESTION. 
          WITH THE GROWTH OF OBVIOUSLY COMING TO TOWN, THE SILVER LINE BEING FULLY OPEN AND OPERATIONAL NOW, UM, DO YOU EVER SEE THE SUBSTATION THAT WAS ONCE HERE IN THE CIRCLE REOPENING AGAIN, JUST FROM A POLICE PRESENCE? SO NOT SO MUCH FOR LIKE HAVING AN OFFICER STAFFED OUT OF HERE. 
          UM, THAT WAS A GIFTED SPACE. 
          IT WAS NEVER REALLY SET UP FOR THAT, JUST FROM AN IT COMPONENT. 
          AND, AND THE TOWN'S ALREADY PRETTY SMALL. 
          WE USE IT FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          OUR OFFICERS WILL GO THERE TO TAKE REPORTS AND PROVIDE THAT PRESENCE. 
          UM, BUT OUR PATROL OFFICERS PATROL A CP, THEY PATROL ALL OF OUR PARKS. 
          UM, SO I WOULD NEVER SEE US ACTUALLY STATIONING AN OFFICER FULL-TIME OUT OF THERE. 
          BUT IT'S A SPACE THAT THEY NEED TO RUN INTO, USE THE RESTROOM THAT WE HAVE THAT EVENT THAT WE HAVE THAT, UM, AVAILABILITY. 
          THANKS, CHIEF, THAT, UH, DARREN, SO, UH, LOOKING THROUGH SOME OF THE SLIDES, IT SEEMED LIKE, UH, WE WERE, UM, NOT FULLY STAFFED OVER THE YEARS YOU MENTIONED, SO, SO DOES THIS BRING US TO FULLY STAFFED, OR IS THIS FULLY STAFFED? PLUS ONE. 
          PLUS ONE. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, SO AS OF LAST YEAR, WE WERE 66. 
          WE HAD A MID-YEAR POSITION AT 67. 
          THIS WOULD TAKE US TO 68. 
          IS THIS WHAT WE ALSO JUST APPROVED FOR THIS YEAR? UH, THAT SAME POSITION, THIS IS JUST GOING FORWARD. 
          THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL POSITION, AN ADDITIONAL TO THE ONE WE JUST TOOK. 
          SO THE ONE THAT WE APPROVED, I WAS TALKING ABOUT LIKE, UH, UH, TRAFFIC CONTROL, STOP, UH, STOP SIGNS, STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          AND THIS ONE IS, IS AN ADDITION TO THAT? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          INTO THE PATROL DIVISION. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I'M GONNA GO BACK AND SAY, UH, WE DO HAVE A, UH, A STRONG RESIDENT DESIRE TO HAVE VERY HIGH LEVEL OF PUBLIC SAFETY, SO THIS ALIGNS WITH THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, DON'T LIKE ADDING POSITION, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND NEXT WE'LL HAVE LESLIE COME UP AND TALK ABOUT ASSISTANT BUILDING 
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OFFICIAL LESLIE KNIGHT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. 
          UM, THIS POSITION IS ASSISTANT BUILDING OFFICIAL OR A BO. 
          UM, THE INTENT IS TO PROVIDE A SERVICE LEVEL ENHANCEMENT AS WELL AS SOME OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY. 
          UM, THIS POSITION WOULD SERVE WITHIN OUR BUILDING SAFETY TEAM AND BRING IT FROM FIVE FTES TO SIX, UM, WITHIN THAT TEAM. 
          UM, THEY DO PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SERVICE. 
          WE ARE REQUIRED TO PERFORM INSPECTIONS WHEN THE PRIVATE SECTOR ASK US TO IN A TIMELY MANNER. 
          UM, SO THIS POSITION WOULD SERVE MULTIPLE FACETS OF THAT TO PROVIDE THAT ESSENTIAL SERVICE. 
          WE WOULD ALSO EARMARK THEM AS THE KEY LIAISON FROM OUR BUILDING SAFETY TEAM FOR THE RENTAL AND LODGING, UM, PROGRAM THAT WE STARTED TWO YEARS AGO. 
          UM, AS WELL AS THIS WOULD OFFSET OUR CONTRACTUAL SERVICES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY UTILIZING TO PERFORM THESE ESSENTIAL SERVICES. 
          AND WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND SOME THE SERVICE LEVEL WE ARE PROVIDING WITH THIS POSITION. 
          SO THIS POSITION WILL BE DOING, UM, A LOT OF THINGS AND FILLING A LOT OF GAPS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          THE TOTAL COST FOR THIS POSITION WILL BE JUST UNDER $142,000 ANNUALLY. 
          THAT WOULD BE OFFSET BY THE CONTRACT CONTRACTUAL SERVICE WE HAVE WITH, UM, EURO VERITAS, UH, AT 67.5 ANNUALLY. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE ALSO IDENTIFIED SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCES THAT, UH, WE ANTICIPATE BRINGING BACK TO COUNCIL FOR SOME DISCUSSIONS IN SEPTEMBER RELATED TO AMENDMENTS TO OUR MASTER FEE SCHEDULE. 
          UM, THAT INVOLVES FEES THAT WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY CHARGING, SO ADDING NEW REVENUE SOURCES AND POTENTIALLY AMENDING SOME OF OUR CURRENT FEES. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE A EXACT NUMBER ON THAT. 
          UM, BUT BASED UPON SOME PRELIMINARY REVIEW, WE DO ANTICIPATE SOME ADDITIONAL REVIEW, UM, FROM THAT, UM, THAT PROJECT AS WELL. 
          SO LOOKING AT THE SERVICE LEVEL, I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SO FAR, UM, AND PROVIDE FURTHER JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK, UM, WE, AS I MENTIONED, WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE FIVE POSITIONS, UH, BUT ONE OF THEM IS AN ADMIN STAFF. 
          SO WE HAVE FOUR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE, HAVE THE, UM, NECESSARY CERTIFICATION AND LICENSES THAT COULD PERFORM INSPECTIONS. 
          UM, AND THAT INCLUDES OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL, WHO IS A MASTER CODE PROFESSIONAL. 
          UM, OUR SENIOR PLANS EXAMINER, WHO IS ALSO A MASTER CODE PROFESSIONAL. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE TWO SENIOR BUILDING INSPECTOR POSITIONS. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPLIT, UM, OF WHO IS PERFORMING THIS, THESE INSPECTIONS, YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE BUILDING OFFICIAL WHO, UM, IS INTENDED TO BE A, A KEY LEADER IN, IN OUR BUILDING SAFETY TEAM, PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, BOTH PROCESS AND TECHNICAL OVERSIGHT, CUSTOMER SERVICE, AND REALLY FOCUSING ON THOSE HIGH RISK PROJECTS OR COMPLEX PROJECTS. 
          UM, HE'S PERFORMING A, A BULK OF THOSE INSPECTIONS TO AVOID US SPENDING ADDITIONAL MONEY IN CONTRACT REVENUE. 
          SO JUST LOOKING AT WHAT OUR CONTRACT REVENUE IS, UM, BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL PERFORMING THESE SERVICES, HE SAVED THE TOWN $62,000 IN CONTRACT SERVICES. 
          BUT I WANNA POINT OUT THAT WE ARE THEN TAKING HIM AWAY FROM SOME OF HIS KEY DUTIES, UM, OR THAT ROLE SHOULD BE DOING WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE TEAM. 
          UM, SO TO DATE, OR EXCUSE ME, YEAH, TO DATE, THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE SPENT ABOUT $40,000 OF THAT 60,000, $67,000 IN CONTRACT SERVICES. 
          UM, AND THEN OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL OBVIOUSLY HAS STEPPED UP IN A BIG WAY TO PERFORM, PERFORM THAT ESSENTIAL SERVICE WHILE, UM, SAVING THE TOWN MONEY. 
          UM, GIVEN THAT OUR HOURLY RATE FOR INSPECTIONS FOR BUREAU OF VERITAS IS ABOUT $282, WHILE A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE, WE WOULD PAY APPROXIMATELY 68, 60 $8 PER HOUR. 
          UM, AND WE WOULD GET THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THEM ALL YEAR ROUND WHILE ALSO, UM, HAVING ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT AND CONSISTENCY FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, LESLIE. 
          AND I ASSUME SO IF, IF WE DID THIS, THEN WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE BUREAU OF VERITAS? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          WE WOULD, THIS COULD BE A OFFSET COST. 
          WE WOULD GET RID OF THE, UM, EXISTING THIRD PARTY CONTRACT, AND WE WOULD USE THIS POSITION, AS I MENTIONED, FOR BOTH BACKUP MM-HMM . 
          INSPECTIONS, UM, THAT KEY, UM, PERSONNEL POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE RENTAL AND LODGING, UM, INSPECTION PROGRAM, AS WELL AS, UM, SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, RELIEF FOR THE DEPARTMENT WITH THE GAPS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WOULD BE SOME VALUE TO HAVING AN AN IN-HOUSE PERSON THAT ACTUALLY KNOWS MUCH MORE ABOUT THE TOWN THAN AN OUTSIDE PERSON COMING IN AND DOING THE SIMILAR WORK. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          IF I WOULD ADD JUST ONE COMMENT TO THAT, YOU KNOW, A BIG CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD, UM, OVER THE PAST YEAR, PARTICULARLY AT THE LAST STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING AND THAT WE'VE BEEN UPDATING COUNCIL ON, OR OUR IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, 
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SPECIFICALLY OUR BUILDING INSPECTION PROCESS, ENSURING THAT WHEN BUSINESSES COME HERE, THEY KNOW THIS IS AN EASY PLACE TO GET THINGS DONE. 
          THIS POSITION IS, UH, HELPS US WITH THAT TREMENDOUSLY FOR THE REASONS YOU SAID THEY COME IN AND THEY KNOW WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE. 
          WE'RE NOT RELYING ON A CONTRACTOR TO HAVE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, AND WE JUST HAVE MORE RESOURCES TO GET THINGS DONE QUICKER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WITH THE, WITH THE CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT WE EXPECT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE PUT THIS ONE FORWARD IS BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE SOME COSTS OFFSET, BUT IT ALSO JUST, I THINK THE MAGNITUDE OF HOW IT CAN IMPACT SOMEBODY'S, UH, BUSINESS'S ABILITY TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS IS, IS WORTH IT. 
          YEAH, IT CERTAINLY MAKES SENSE TO ME. 
          SCHNELL, THANK YOU, MS. MAYOR. 
          SO LES'S, HOW, HOW, HOW, HOW MUCH TIME WILL THEY BE SPENDING ON THE, UH, RENTAL AND LODGING PROGRAM OF, OF THEIR POSITION? YEAH, SO I WOULD SAY IN THE BALLPARK OF 30%, I THINK THAT IS, YOU KNOW, TO BE DETERMINED AS WE MM-HMM. 
          AS WE EVALUATE, AND IT'S ALSO ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS. 
          SO AS I MENTIONED, I WOULD WANT THIS INDIVIDUAL TO BE A KEY POINT OF CONTACT TO SUPPORT THE CODE, THE CODE COMPLIANCE TEAM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHENEVER THEY NEED TO ESCALATE AN ITEM. 
          SO OUR CODE COMPLIANCE TEAM IS VERY SKILLED IN LI THEY'RE ALL LICENSED AND CERTIFIED MM-HMM . 
          UM, UNDER THE IPMC, WHICH IS THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY CODE, UM, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, EXCUSE ME. 
          HOWEVER, WHEN THERE IS MORE TECHNICAL ISSUES, FOR EXAMPLE, MAYBE THERE ARE TECHNICAL, PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL ISSUES, UM, OR STRUCTURAL ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO BRING IN A SOMEONE WHO IS CERTIFIED IN THOSE ADDITIONAL SKILLS, I WOULD WANT THIS INDIVIDUAL TO BE THAT KEY POINT OF CONTACT WHO WORK SEAMLESSLY WITH THE CODE TEAM, UM, WHO ALL OF OUR PROPERTY MANAGERS WITHIN THE, BUT WHETHER THEY'RE LODGING OR MULTIFAMILY, THEY KNOW THAT INDIVIDUAL AS THEIR POINT OF CONTACT ON THE BUILDING SAFETY TEAM. 
          UM, WHEREAS NOW, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ACROSS OUR DIFFERENT, UM, CURRENT FTES, WE HAVE, THAT INDIVIDUAL MAY CHANGE. 
          THERE IS NOT A KEY PERSON TO POINT TO THAT, THAT'S THEIR DESIGNATED RESPONSIBILITY. 
          IT'S REALLY, UM, KIND OF JUGGLING WHEREVER SOMEONE HAS THE CAPACITY TO STEP IN, UM, WHICH THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY AT ANY GIVEN TIME. 
          AND SO YOU, THIS WILL BE IN ADDITION, WELL, I KNOW IT'S IN ADDITION TO FTE. 
          SO WHO DO YOU HAVE DOING, YOU KNOW, THE RENTAL PROGRAM NOW? SO OUR CODE COMPLIANCE TEAM MANAGES THE RENTAL PROGRAM MM-HMM . 
          UM, BUT WHEN THEY NEED TO ESCALATE FOR ADDITIONAL SUPPORT MM-HMM . 
          UM, THEY CALL ON ANY OF THESE FOUR OTHER INDIVIDUALS, UM, OR A CONTRACT LABOR RIGHT. 
          WHEN NEEDED. 
          BUT I WANNA POINT OUT OUR BUILDING SAFETY TEAM, THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR FULL-TIME ROLES. 
          UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, IT'S ANYONE WHO HAS THE CAPACITY AT THAT TIME, WHICH TYPICALLY ENDS UP BEING THE BUILDING OFFICIAL. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, THE, MY BUILDING OFFICIAL HAS ALMOST TURNED INTO A, A FIELD FIELD INSPECTOR, GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF VOLUME HE HAS HAS TO ABSORB. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          UM, THINK A QUICK QUESTION ON RENTAL LODGING PROGRAM. 
          TO HER POINT, WOULD THIS PERSON AT ANY POINT HELP WITH ASHLEY'S TEAM IN TERMS OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL LICENSING FEES? IS THERE A CROSSOVER ON THAT? OR WE'RE TALKING MORE INSPECTION. 
          YEAH, SORRY. 
          THE, SO THE RENTAL AND LODGING PROGRAMMING DOES INCLUDE SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          UM, WE ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION HERE, I THINK AUGUST 25TH. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE GONNA, YEAH, WE'RE BRINGING BACK A SHORT TERM RENTAL, UM, CONVERSATION FOR COUNCIL ON AUGUST 25TH. 
          AND IN THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT CHANGING THE ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE MULTI-FAMILY, BUT ALSO HOW WE DO THE INSPECTIONS, THE ALTERNATIVES. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FULL CONVERSATION ON THAT, BUT IT DOES RELATE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT ALSO THAT I'M GETTING THAT PERSON WOULD HELP TIE IN AND, AND AID. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IN, IN THE STACK OF YOUR TALENT AND SENIORITY, WHAT, WHERE DOES THIS POSITION FALL? SO, UM, IN TERMS OF HIERARCHY, WE WOULD HAVE THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, THE ASSISTANT BUILDING OFFICIAL, UM, TWO SENIOR, AND THEN WE HAVE TWO SENIOR INSPECTORS AND A SENIOR PLANS EXAMINER WHO ARE, UM, OF, OF SIMILAR, UM, STATUS WITHIN THE HIERARCHY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IS THIS, UH, THE BUREAU VERITAS, IS THAT THE CONTRACT THAT WE DISCUSSED RECENTLY ON IN COUNCIL? UM, ABOUT OKAY. 
          FOUR MONTHS AGO, AND WE QUESTIONED WHETHER WE COULD DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT MM-HMM . 
          UH, ADDRESSING THAT. 
          I THINK THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS OF COULD WE BRING SOMEONE IN-HOUSE TO DO IT INSTEAD? OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD. 
          I DO LIKE THAT. 
          SO CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE? SO THE KFA HERE IS PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ALSO SOMETHING ABOUT BEING EASY TO DO BUSINESS WITH, LIKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY LISTED UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE AS WELL, BUT TO ME IT'S CLEARLY, UH, EASY TO DO BUSINESS WITH IN ADDISON, UH, TYPE OF ASSET. 
          AM I GETTING THAT WRONG? YEAH, I THINK, UM, THERE IS A, AN ITEM UNDER THE PUBLIC SAFETY THAT TALKS TO ENFORCEMENT OF OUR CODES AND ORDINANCES. 
          SO 
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I I THINK IT'S DUAL. 
          THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I DO SEE IT MAKING IT EASY TO DO BUSINESS IN ADDISON BY HAVING THIS, UH, LIKE THE OTHER POSITION CONCIERGE ON THE, UH MM-HMM . 
          PROGRAM MANAGER. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT'S, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IT'S ADDRESSING THAT, THAT, UH, OUTSOURCE CONTRACTOR. 
          AND I DO LIKE THE INTERNAL KNOWLEDGE ABOUT, UH, HOW ADDISON WORKS, HOW WE DO BUSINESS, UH, THE, THAT CON CONSISTENCY VERSUS AN EXTERNAL CONTRACTOR. 
          SO, UH, I CAN SEE THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS POSITION. 
          I LIKE IT. 
          CHRIS, I JUST WANNA BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WE ADD TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT HOW REVENUE'S FLAT AND WE'RE, WE'RE ADDING EXPENSES, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CODE COMPLIANCE, THE RENTAL AND LODGING. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WERE AS A COUNCIL A LITTLE LEERY ABOUT THOSE FEES. 
          UM, BUT WE GOT TO THIS PLACE WHERE WE THOUGHT IF IT WAS SELF-FUNDING, THERE WAS A NEED FOR THE SERVICE, BUT ALSO THE FEES COULD BE JUSTIFIED BECAUSE WE WERE SELF-FUNDING. 
          SO, SO DO WE KNOW IF THAT'S HAPPENING? ARE WE GONNA COVER THAT WHEN THAT IS SO IS IS THE, YOU'RE ASKING IS THE RENTAL PRO, ARE WE FUNDED WHERE WE ANTICIPATED WE ARE FUNDED? EXACTLY. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE, SO THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT THAT, UH, WE WERE IN THE, WE WERE PUSHING ABOUT, UM, 85 TO 90% OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATED AND WHERE WE AN WHERE THE FEES WERE SET. 
          I BELIEVE, AND I'M PULLING FROM THE MEMORY, BUT I THINK WHERE, WHERE THE FEES WERE SET, WE WERE ANTICIPATING ABOUT 95 TO 97%. 
          SO WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO WHERE WE ANTICIPATED, AND THAT IS INCREASING. 
          SO WE'VE SEEN LAST YEAR WE WERE A LITTLE BIT LOWER AND WE'RE ACTUALLY, WE'RE SEEING A HIGHER REVENUE THIS YEAR AS WE ARE TARGETING THE SINGLE FAMILY. 
          AND WE ARE EXPO EXPANDING THOSE THAT ARE BEING REGISTERED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF WE'RE GONNA PICK THAT TOPIC BACK UP AGAIN, I HOPE WE CAN INCLUDE THE REVENUE COMPONENT, COST VERSUS REVENUE, UM, AND THEN THERE IS AN OFFSET IN OUR, IN OUR DECISION PACKAGE OF THE 67,500. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT IS, UM, GETTING RID OF THE NEED TO OUTSOURCE. 
          CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          ARE THERE, AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER REVENUE THAT WE PICK UP FROM THIS POSITION. 
          IS THAT FROM CO COMPLIANCE OR IS THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE? NO, THAT'S FROM, UM, PERMIT FEE REVENUE. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCES WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT, THAT WE ARE GOING TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL FOR A DISCUSSION, UM, I THINK TENTATIVELY IN SEPTEMBER, BUT THIS FALL ABOUT WHAT THOSE, IF, IF, WHAT COUNCIL'S APPETITE FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCES ARE, UM, AND AS WELL AS EVALUATING OUR CURRENT FEES. 
          THE LAST TIME OUR FEES HAVE REALLY BEEN EVALUATED FROM, UM, A COST RECOVERY PERSPECTIVE OR REALLY AT ALL HAS BEEN OVER 10 YEARS. 
          UM, AND IT'S TIME TO REALLY LOOK AT WHERE OUR FEES ARE, BOTH IN TERMS OF OUR COST RECOVERY, BUT ALSO TO OUR COMPARATOR CITIES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELL, THANK YOU, LESLIE. 
          UM, CAN, UH, CAN YOU GO BACK ON THE HIERARCHY ON THAT LAST SLIDE? YOU WERE RIGHT THERE, UH, ON THE HIERARCHY. 
          I, I DIDN'T QUITE CAPTURE WHAT YOU WERE SHARING. 
          WHERE WHERE DOES THIS, UH, A BO COMPARE TO A BUILDING OFFICIAL? THEY WOULD BE, UH, IMMEDIATELY BELOW A BUILDING DIVISION. 
          BELOW. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          THANKS, BEN. 
          YEAH, I THINK YOU JUST, YOU HIT ON THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT EARLIER. 
          SO WE ARE GOING TO FINALLY REVIEW OUR FEES YES. 
          AND HAVE AN INCREASE. 
          THERE'S GOTTA BE AN INCREASE. 
          IT'S BEEN, IF IT'S BEEN 10 YEARS, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE AN INCREASE. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S THE POINT I WAS GETTING AT EARLIER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOOD ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU, LESLIE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WE HAVE ONE FINAL DECISION PACKAGE FOR THE GENERAL FUND, UH, STREET MAINTENANCE WORKER. 
          AND WE'LL HAVE BECKY COME UP AND, UH, GO OVER THAT. 
          GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          BECKY DIVINITY, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING. 
          UM, I AM HAPPY TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU TODAY THE STREET MAINTENANCE WORKER. 
          SO AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE, CURRENTLY OUR STREET MAINTENANCE TEAM ONLY HAS THREE INDIVIDUALS. 
          UM, SO WHAT THIS DOES IS, DOES, DOES NOT ALLOW OUR TEAM TO WORK IN A GROUP EFFORT. 
          SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO AND WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED BEFORE YOU, IS TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL FTE SO THAT WE CAN WORK IN GROUPS OF TWO INSTEAD OF HAVING THREE INDIVIDUALS. 
          THAT'S REALLY FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, UM, THE WORKLOAD OF THE AMOUNT OF ITEMS THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, UM, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS MORE ON. 
          UM, SO WE'D LIKE TO WORK TO IMPROVE REPAIR SIGNAGE, SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE, PAVEMENT MARKINGS, UM, POTHOLES, UM, OF COURSE, UH, BULK TRASH REMOVAL. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE THE METRIC THAT ABOUT 5,000 REQUESTS CAME IN LAST YEAR. 
          UM, BUT WE ARE HOPING THAT YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO LOOK AT THIS SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT ALSO DECREASING KIND OF SOME OF THOSE WORKLOAD PRESSURES AND MINIMIZING THE OVERTIME SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE. 
          RIGHT NOW, MANY OF THE FIX-IT REQUESTS THAT COME THROUGH, UM, 
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OR THE REQUESTS THAT COME FROM COUNCIL RESIDENTS, UM, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, A LOT OF THOSE THAT COME THROUGH, EVEN THINGS THAT WE SEE SOMETIMES IT'S, UM, OUR PEERS THAT SEE THEM TOO AS THEY DRIVE AROUND TOWN. 
          UM, THOSE THINGS ARE MORE IN A REACTIVE MANNER. 
          UM, AND SO WE'RE HOPING WITH HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL, UM, FTE, WE CAN BE IN A MORE PROACTIVE MANNER, HAVE THESE THINGS HAPPEN ON A VERY REGULAR BASIS. 
          UM, THE OVERALL COST TO THE BUDGET IS ABOUT $68,000, UH, REOCCURRING FOR THAT SALARY WITH, UH, $1,000 ONE TIME FEE. 
          THAT'S REALLY COMPUTER SUPPLIES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          UM, AND THEN 50% OF THIS WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND AND 50% WOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH THE STORMWATER FUND. 
          AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BUCKY. 
          I WOULD JUST ADD ONE THING ON THIS, AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S UP THERE, BUT THE BULK TRASH, UM, IS SIGNIFICANT. 
          AND IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN, WHEN, WHEN RESIDENTS TALK ABOUT ADDISON AND THEY SAY, TALK ABOUT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THEY GET IN ADDISON, IT'S, IT'S THE, THE ATHLETIC CLUB AND THE FACT THAT WE CAN PUT OUR BULK TRASH OUT AND IT GETS PICKED UP, AND THAT'S GREAT, BUT WE DO HAVE TO BALANCE THOSE NEEDS WITH EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON. 
          SO THIS IS A DECISION FIRST TO GET THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEED SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE A BUSY WEEK OF BULK TRASH, EVERYTHING ELSE DOESN'T GET DELAYED. 
          BUT ALSO TO BECKY'S POINT, WE CAN BE MORE STRATEGIC IN HOW WE USE THOSE FOLKS AND GET MORE PROACTIVE WITH IT. 
          SO THE, UM, THE NEEDS ARE INCREASING AND THIS ALLOWS US TO BETTER ADDRESS THOSE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT, UH, THAT BULK TRASH PICKUP HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF ADDISON RESIDENTS. 
          AND THEY, THEY LOVE BRAGGING ABOUT IT TO OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          UH, AS DO I. 
          SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT DO THE STREETS CREWS DO AS FAR AS PAVEMENT MARKINGS COMPARED TO THE FOLKS THAT COME OUT AND RETRIP THE ROADS? SURE. 
          SO PAVEMENT MARKINGS MIGHT BE, UM, WE ACTUALLY DO THERMOPLASTICS. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE GREEN MARKING ON THE GROUND OR LIKE A SHERO COULD BE APPLIED ON THE GROUND. 
          SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ORDER AND ACTUALLY HEAT TO PUT ON THE GROUND, THAT'S SOMETHING OUR TEAM DOES. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE SOME MINIMAL STRIPING ABILITIES, LIKE A STOP BAR, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          UM, BUT MOST OF THE PAVEMENT MARKING THAT IS OVERALL, UM, LIKE ON THE MIDDLE OF A ROADWAY OR LIKE THE, WHETHER IT BE THE SOLID YELLOW LINE OR LIKE THE WHITE DASH LINE. 
          THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ON A MORE ANNUAL BASIS AS A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT. 
          WHAT THIS GIVES US THE ABILITY TO IS IF SOMETHING'S COME UP THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, UM, QUICKLY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, UM, WITH THIS TEAM. 
          BUT MOST OF IT IS THROUGH A THERMOPLASTIC VERSUS THE ACTUAL PAINTING THAT YOU SEE THAT GOES ON THE GROUND. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, UH, AND JUST A THOUGHT ABOUT PAVEMENT MARKINGS SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE INTERSECTIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ARE TURNING THE LEFT AND IT REALLY WEAR WEARS OUT, THOSE, THOSE CENTER LINES IN, IN, IN THE OPPOSING, UH, LANES, WEARS THOSE OUT PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          AND ALSO WHEN YOU HAVE THE, THE DUAL LEFT TURN LANES, THE DASH LINE SHOWING YOU WHERE YOU REALLY SHOULD BE YES. 
          THEY KIND OF DISAPPEAR A LITTLE BIT. 
          SURE. 
          IS THAT, DOES, IS THAT AN ANNUAL THING THAT HAPPENS? UM, IT IS AN ANNUAL THING THAT HAPPENS, BUT IT DOES NOT HAPPEN OVER THE ENTIRE TOWN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          SO PART OF WHAT OUR NEW STREETS AND TRAFFIC OPERATIONS MANAGER IS LOOKING AT IS WITH THIS ADDITIONAL STAFF PERSON, ARE THERE SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE COULD DO, WHETHER IT'S A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE CAN RENT OR THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN HOUSE THAT MAYBE IS NOT BEING UTILIZED, UM, OR WORKING WITH OUR OTHER PARTNERS. 
          UM, OUR AIRPORT HAS SOME OF THAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT TOO MM-HMM . 
          THAT WE CAN STRATEGIZE. 
          UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S ALSO CROSSWALK MARKINGS THAT NEED TO BE IMPROVED. 
          AND SO LOOKING AT IT IN MORE OF A STRATEGIC, UM, PERSPECTIVE AND REALLY THINKING ABOUT, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE EVERY OTHER YEAR, EVERY THREE YEARS, AND REALLY GETTING INTO A GREAT GROOVE OF MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF? OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND DAN, A QUESTION, BECKY, SO AT, AT, AT NEARLY 5,000 REQUESTS IN 2025 FOR BULK TRASH KNOWING WE'RE GROWING AND THAT WAS 25, THAT'S, I DID THE MATH, IT'S ALMOST 13 A DAY REQUESTS. 
          ARE THOSE COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL? NO, SIR. 
          WE ONLY PICK UP RESIDENTIAL TRASH. 
          WOW. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT'S BEING DONE DAILY AT THIS TIME. 
          THAT'S AMAZING. 
          WE'RE AVERAGING ALMOST 13 STOPS AND THERE'S NO, AND THERE'S NO FEE ASSOCIATED WITH, I MEAN, THERE'S NO CERTAIN RESIDENTS THAT ARE OBSESSIVE ABOUT IT, MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE DOING THIS WEEKLY TO DRIVE UP THE NUMBERS. 
          SO THERE'S NO WAY OF ATTACKING A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH BULK TRASH, REPEAT OR REPEAT USERS, IF I'M SAYING THAT CORRECTLY. 
          WELL, WE HAS, UH, SIGN SENSITIVE, TOUCHY. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT TOUCHY. 
          THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS WE CAN HAVE IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN HAVING 13 A DAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD MENTION THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE DONE A REALLY PROACTIVE EDUCATION PROCESS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, REQUESTS COME IN THROUGH THE FIX IT APP OR THROUGH THE, THE WEBSITE REQUEST, UM, THAT YOU CAN GO ON AND DO WE ALSO RECEIVE THOSE MESSAGES THROUGH FAM UH, PHONE CALL. 
          UM, BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE A PROACTIVE PROCESS 
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RIGHT NOW THAT IF SOMEONE LEAVES OUT BULK WASTE, UM, BUT THEY DID NOT PUT IN EITHER A FIX-IT REQUEST, A PHONE CALL, OR A WEBSITE. 
          WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING A DOOR HANGER OUT, LIKE, HEY, HERE'S A GREAT WAY FOR YOU TO BE ABLE, IT HELPS US TRACK WORKLOAD. 
          AND THEN ALSO, I THINK YOU'RE AWARE, UM, , I REMEMBER YOU TELLING ME YOU GOT ONE. 
          UM, I REPEAT MY NEIGHBORS ON MY DOOR. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I THINK THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING ELSE WE'RE DOING IS HELPING TO TRY TO EDUCATE, BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT MISSING SOMETHING EITHER. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, HAVING THAT, THAT MASTER LIST REALLY HELPS OUR TEAM STRATEGIZE WHAT THEIR WEEK'S GONNA BE LOOKING LIKE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND PART OF, PART OF THAT EDUCATION IS ALSO THAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR CONTRACTOR NEEDS TO TAKE OUT A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT I THINK GETS LEFT BEHIND US. 
          OH, JUST ADDISON WILL PICK IT UP. 
          THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS WE DO NEED TO BE HAVING. 
          CHRIS. 
          YEAH. 
          REALLY THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING. 
          UH, JUST REALLY QUICK. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET TOO INTO IT TOO MUCH, BUT OF THOSE 5,000, WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE JUST, UM, LIKE TREE TRIMMINGS VERSUS PICKING UP SOMEONE'S OLD COUCH? UM, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S PROBABLY A DIFFICULT QUESTION FOR ME TO ANSWER AT THIS TIME. 
          I'M HAPPY TO GET THAT INFORMATION BACK, UM, TO YOU. 
          UM, BECAUSE EVEN TREE TRIMMINGS SOMETIMES ARE VERY LARGE, UM, AND THEY CAN TAKE MORE THAN ONE TRIP FOR OUR CREWS. 
          UM, SO I, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO HAVE A MORE DETAILED, UM, CONVERSATION, OUR TEAM IS TRACKING ALL OF THAT THROUGH OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND OUR WORK ORDER SYSTEM. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT I COULD ACCURATELY ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO IT NOW, BUT I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE HAD TREES TRIMMED AND YOU PAY THE EXTRA FEE TO HAVE IT HOLD HAULED OFF. 
          RIGHT. 
          I HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO DON'T DO THAT. 
          AND NOW IT, IT, IT'S REAL, IT'S HITTING OUR BUDGET. 
          SO AT SOME POINT WE SHOULD MAYBE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          DEFINITELY SHOULD. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE. 
          SO, UM, CURRENTLY THREE PEOPLE WORKING IN PARIS. 
          I GOT THAT. 
          UM, SO HOW MUCH OF THE, OF A CROSS TRAINING WITH OTHER, UH, ROLES DO THESE, THESE PEOPLE HAVE? YOU MENTIONED SOME OF IT LIKE WITH AIRPORT PEOPLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A SMALL TEAM, THEN IT'S HARD TO STAFF IT FOR VACATIONS OR FOR TWO, TWO MAN CREWS. 
          WELL, THAT'S THE THING I LOVE THE MOST ABOUT MY TEAM IS THEY ALL CROSS TRAIN. 
          THEY ALL HELP EACH OTHER. 
          UM, PRIME EXAMPLE IS WHEN WE USED OUR NEW BARRIERS JUST RECENTLY, EVERY SINGLE PERSON LEARNED HOW TO USE THE BARRIERS AND LEARNED HOW TO DEPLOY THEM. 
          SO NO ONE, EVEN WITH BULK WASTE, UM, WHERE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WHERE WE NEED MORE CREWS ON BOARD, EVEN WITH JUST TRAFFIC SAFETY AND TRAFFIC CONTROL, WE ALWAYS WORK TOGETHER AND OUR MANAGERS REALLY HELP EACH OTHER. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NOT ONLY YOU'LL SEE IN THE STREETS DEPARTMENT, BUT EVEN OUR SIGNAL DIVISION IS A PART OF THE OVERALL STREETS DEPARTMENT. 
          THEY WORK TOGETHER TOO. 
          SO THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO CROSS TRAIN AND, AND THEY DO HELP EACH OTHER QUITE A BIT. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          I, I WANT TO SEE THAT. 
          THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US FOR SURE. 
          UM, IN TODAY'S, UM, LABOR WORLD, SO THE 68,000, UM, IS SO GOING TO THE GENERAL FUND, HALF OF THAT'S GONNA, THE GENERAL FUND, SO 34,000? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          60 EIGHT'S NOT HALF ALREADY. 
          NO, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          68 IS THE SALARY OF THE INDIVIDUAL WITH HALF GENERAL FUND, HALF STORMWATER. 
          UM, SO YOU MENTIONED INCREASED DEMAND. 
          SO WE'VE GOT THREE PEOPLE. 
          WE'VE HAD THREE PEOPLE. 
          WE HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF FEW MORE RESIDENTS. 
          UM, WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE INCREASED DEMAND? WHAT DO YOU SEE? UM, I THINK THE INCREASED DEMAND IS COMING IN NOT ONLY FROM THE, THE BULK WASTE, BUT ALSO THE INCREASED DEMAND IS IN THE ABILITY THAT OUR STAFF NOW SEES MORE OF A PROACTIVE MEASURES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. 
          WHETHER IT BE THE THINGS THAT I'VE LISTED BEFORE YOU SIGNAGE, YOU KNOW, THOSE SHOULD BE REALLY ON AN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE BASIS OF REPLACING 'EM EVERY THREE TO FIVE YEARS. 
          UH, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT PAVEMENT MARKINGS, UM, POTHOLES. 
          USUALLY WE STOP WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR A DAY. 
          TAKE ALL THAT CREW, THESE THREE INDIVIDUALS, AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE FROM ANOTHER DIVISION AND HAVE THEM PHYSICALLY GO OUT AND RUN POTHOLES IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS. 
          SO WE CAN DO THAT WITHIN A DAY. 
          SO REALLY I THINK WHAT I, WHAT MAYBE I'M NOT SAYING IS, UM, THAT I REALLY AM HOPING THAT WITH THIS IN INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE, WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO REALLY TAKE THIS TEAM TO THE NEXT LEVEL TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS IN A MORE OF A PROACTIVE MANNER. 
          'CAUSE NOW IT'S, HEY, THERE'S A POTHOLE HERE, CAN YOU GO FIX IT? NOT, HEY, LET'S GO LOOK AT THE THREE MILES OF AREA THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR AND START PROGRAMMING THOSE THINGS OUT. 
          SIMILAR TO SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE, THERE MAY BE ONE PANEL THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED VERSUS AN ENTIRE STRETCH THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. 
          AND THOSE ARE ISOLATED AREAS THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND DO THOSE REPAIRS FOR. 
          UM, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF, OF INCREASED SERVICE LEVEL FOR SURE, BUT, UH, PULLING A, A CHRIS FTE HERE, I THINK ABOUT ADDING FTES AS WELL. 
          AND, AND IT'S LIKE, OKAY, DO WE WANT TO CONTROL OUR COSTS AND HAVE, UM, MAINTAIN A SERVICE LEVEL, OR DO WE WANNA INCREASE THE SERVICE LEVEL AND INCREASE OUR COSTS? THAT'S A THING. 
          THE OTHER THING, 
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2, 2, 2 MORE THINGS IS, UH, ONE OF THEM TALKING ABOUT HAULING OFF, UM, WASTE OR STUFF THAT SHOULD BE THE CONTRACTORS HAULING THEM OFF THE, THE TREE TRIMMERS AND HOW DO WE BETTER CONTROL THAT? UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT FAIR THAT WE'RE SUBSIDIZING THE NEIGHBORS THAT, THAT HAVE THE CHEAPER SERVICES, NOT HAUL THEIR TREES, THEIR TREE BRANCHES OFF AND, UH, I PAY TO HAVE MINE HAULED OFF. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE ABOUT HOW WE KIND OF CONTROL THAT WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, UM, WITH DOING IT THE ADDISON WAY, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BALANCE. 
          AND THE OTHER ONE IS THIS IS, UH, I HAVE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, I CAMPAIGNED THIS LAST, UM, SEASON. 
          LOTS OF PEOPLE SAYING, I USED TO SEE THEM DRIVING AROUND, PICKING UP MY WASTE. 
          I DIDN'T, I MEAN, MY BULK TRASH, I DIDN'T HAVE TO TELL 'EM WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          OUR SERVICE LEVEL'S GOING DOWN. 
          BUT THEN YOU SAID THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN IS WE, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT AS WELL TRACKED. 
          SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A HIDDEN COST OR SERVICE THAT WE'RE, WE, WE ARE UNAWARE OF, WHICH ALSO COULD LEAD TO THE TREE TRIMMING TYPE THINGS, ASPECTS. 
          SO EDUCATING, UH, ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT THEY DO NEED TO SOME WAY CALL IN AND REQUEST IT, THAT WE'RE NO LONGER GONNA BE DOING A DRIVE AROUND PICKUP, CONCIERGE, UM, NOT EVEN ON DEMAND SERVICE, JUST, JUST AT WILL TYPE DEAL. 
          I, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A POINT THAT WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS REQUESTED JUST A PHONE CALL. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? ABSOLUTELY. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          AND, UM, WE DO STILL DRIVE AROUND. 
          WE TAKE THE OVERALL MAP AND GO, DEPENDING ON, I'M NOT SURE WE SHOULD DO THAT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO, BUT WHY NOT? BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY'D HAVE TO GO BACK OR CAN THEY CARRY SOMETHING WITH THEM TO JUST SAY, HEY, WE PICKED UP, I SAW A SHOPPING CART THE OTHER DAY. 
          I DIDN'T ADD IT TO FIX IT OUT, BUT I DID SEE, SEE A SHOPPING CART THERE. 
          THERE'S CERTAIN, CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY WOULD DO THAT RIGHT. 
          BUT I'M TALKING TO OUR RESIDENT THAT HAS THE COUCH ON THEIR CURB AND THEY ACTUALLY CALL IN AND SAY, HAVE A COUCH ON MY CURB. 
          WOULD YOU PICK IT UP? VERSUS TWO WEEKS LATER, SAY, DAD GUM, THEY DIDN'T PICK UP THE COUCH ON MY CURB. 
          SURE. 
          SO WE GO BY EVERY DAY AND PICK UP THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE LIST FIRST, AND THEY STRATEGICALLY LOOK AT THAT BASED ON WHAT AREA THEY'RE IN. 
          AND THEN THEY BEGIN THEIR DRIVE AROUND FOR THOSE WHO DID NOT PUT THE REQUEST IN. 
          AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE CREATED THE DOOR HANGER TO HELP KIND OF EDUCATION EDUCATE. 
          I, I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT PATH ON THAT. 
          DO THEY ALSO LOG A, A WORK ITEM FOR THE EVERY YES, SIR. 
          EVERY SINGLE ITEM THAT'S PICKED UP A SERVICE REQUEST IS PUT IN. 
          THAT'S REALLY THE, THE OBJECTIVE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT I WOULD BE, UM, WANTING TO, UH, TO FULFILL. 
          'CAUSE THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH WORK IS BEING DONE. 
          I WOULD ALSO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF IT'S ALSO A TRANSITION, A LOT OF FOLKS FOR A LONG TIME OR JUST USE TO, I CAN THROW MY STUFF OUT AND NOT PUT A FIX IT APP OR A TICKET IN AND IT'S JUST GONNA GET PICKED UP. 
          SO THIS IS A PROCESS OF TRYING TO EDUCATE FOLKS, HEY, WE'RE GONNA PICK IT UP THIS TIME, BUT MAKE SURE YOU DO IT SO THAT WE CAN GET TO A POINT WHERE EVERYTHING HAS TO BE SUBMITTED SO WE CAN ACTUALLY PLAN FOR IT AND GO THERE. 
          BUT I THINK TO RIP THE BANDAID OFF AND TRY TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE, I, I, I AGREE. 
          I, I LIKE THE DOOR HANGER. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT ROUTE, BUT DID, BUT IF ALL OF US KNOW THAT WE DO SEND THE SEND MESSAGE TO OUR RESIDENTS, WE WANT YOU TO REQUEST IT VERSUS IT, JUST PUT IT OUT THERE AND EXPECT IT TO GO, GO AWAY AND THEN BE MAD WHEN IT DOESN'T. 
          UM, THAT'S, THAT'S HELPS SET EXPECTATIONS SO THAT IT, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR EXPECTATIONS MISSED. 
          UH, NO, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, TAG ALONG. 
          I REALLY LIKE THAT DOOR HANGER IDEA BECAUSE I, I WOULD LOVE IT IF EVERYBODY USED THE FIX IT APP. 
          I'D LOVE IT IF EVERYBODY SUBSCRIBED TO THE TOWN NEWSLETTER AND READ THE NET TOWN, BUT THEY DON'T, SO THAT, THAT DOOR HANGER'S EXCELLENT. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          WELL, I, I'M JUST AMAZED THAT, THAT YOU HAVE THREE, THREE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY DO ALL THIS TIME, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING A FOURTH. 
          UH, I THINK IT'S, UH, WELL DESERVED AND, AND YOUR CREW, AS WE KNOW, THEY WORK SO HARD EVERY DAY. 
          SO, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, THANK YOU, BECKY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          YEAH, THAT WILL BRING US TO THE END OF THE GENERAL FUND. 
          I BELIEVE WE WERE READY TO, TO BREAK FOR LUNCH. 
          YES. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BREAK FOR LUNCH. 
          IT'S 12 O'CLOCK NOW. 
          IT'S 30 MINUTES. 
          OKAY, EVERYBODY. 
          OKAY. 
          30 MINUTES TILL 1230. 
          WE'LL GET, UH, STARTED BACK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          IT IS 1233 AND WE WILL RECONVENE AFTER OUR BRIEF, UH, LUNCH, RECESS THERE. 
          AND, UH, CONTINUE ON WITH OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION FROM STEVEN GLICKMAN. 
          STEVEN. 
          GREAT. 
          UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UH, SO MOVING ON. 
          WE ARE BEGINNING THE AIRPORT FUND. 
          UH, SO, UH, OVERALL THE AIRPORT FUND, UH, HAS ABOUT 
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EIGHT 8,248,000 IN OPERATING REVENUE. 
          UH, IN ITS PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          UH, OPERATING EXPENSES ARE ABOUT 8,138,000. 
          SO THERE IS A, A POSITIVE VARIANCE, UH, THERE. 
          UH, WE DO EXPECT SOME NON-OPERATING GRANTS THIS YEAR RELATED TO THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, INVESTMENT, UM, NOT INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT AND JOBS ACT, IIJA OF ABOUT $3 MILLION FOR PROJECTS, UH, THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO BE, UH, REBATED, UH, FROM THAT. 
          UH, SO OVERALL, UH, THERE THE AIRPORT IS, UH, CASH FUNDING SOME CAPITAL PROJECTS ABOUT ONE AND A HALF MILLION. 
          UH, WE ANTICIPATE, UH, ENDING WORKING CAPITAL ABOUT $7.6 MILLION IN THE AIRPORT, UH, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT 93.9%. 
          UH, LEAVE ABOUT 93.9% OF THEIR OPERATING EXPENSES IN RESERVE, UH, WHEN WE GO FORWARD TO THEIR LONG-TERM FINANCIAL PLAN. 
          UH, THIS, THIS PLAN ASSUMES ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASES OVERALL, UH, IN REVENUE SOURCES EACH YEAR. 
          UH, THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASES IN SALARIES AND 5% FOR HEALTH INSURANCE. 
          UH, 1% INCREASES IN OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES, UH, AND THEN BOND ISSUANCES IN 2027 AND 2030, UH, FOR THEIR CAPITAL PROJECT PROGRAM. 
          SO THEY DO GET PRETTY CLOSE DOWN ABOUT 20 33, 20 34, UH, TO THAT, UM, THAT POLICY REQUIREMENT OF OPERATING RESERVES. 
          UH, BUT IT DOES COME BACK A LITTLE BIT AFTER THAT. 
          SO, UM, DECISION PACKAGES FOR THE AIRPORT, UH, BRIEFLY, I'LL GO OVER THESE BRIEFLY AND THEN HAVE JAMIE COME UP AND GO OVER THE DETAILS. 
          UH, BUT THERE ARE THREE RECURRING DECISION PACKAGES. 
          UH, ALL, ALL POSITIONS, UH, PARTIALLY OFFSET BY, UH, CONTRACT REDUCTIONS. 
          UH, TOTAL NET COST $138,000 OVERALL. 
          AND THEN THERE ARE FOUR ONE-TIME DECISION PACKAGES, UH, WITH THE COST OF $410,000. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO JAMIE TO, TO GO OVER THE DECISION PACKAGES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, JAMIE AOSA, AIRPORT DIRECTOR, UM, HERE TO GO OVER OUR DECISION PACKAGES, STARTING WITH, UH, POSITIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO AUGMENT AT THE AIRPORT, STARTING WITH AIRPORT GIS ANALYST. 
          THIS POSITION WE'VE HAD NOW FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, UM, ON STAFF, BUT IT HAS BEEN CONTRACTED, UM, UNTIL NOW. 
          AND WE HAVE BEEN BUDGETING $150,000 ANNUAL FOR THIS POSITION. 
          THIS POSITION IS THE POSITION THAT HAS BEEN INPUTTING ALL OF THE DATA RELATED TO GIS, ALL THE FACILITIES, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE AIRPORT. 
          UM, AND THEN NOW IT'S HELPING US TO, UH, ADMINISTRATE THAT INFORMATION UPDATED AS NECESSARY WHENEVER WE COMPLETE PROJECTS. 
          AND THEN IT HAS ALSO, UH, BEEN HELPING US WITH OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WHICH IS IRIS. 
          UM, AS WE NOW TRANSITION FROM INPUTTING THE DATA IN GIS TO ACTUALLY MONITORING THE CONDITION OF OUR FACILITIES AT THE AIRPORT. 
          AND THESE FACILITIES INCLUDE, UM, THINGS RELATED TO INSPECTIONS AND MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS THAT WE NEED FOR THE FACILITIES. 
          THE FACILITIES, OF COURSE, INCLUDE THE RUNWAYS AND TAXIWAYS THEMSELVES, UH, WHICH INCLUDE RUN RUNWAY LIGHTS AND THE NAVIGATIONAL AIDS. 
          UM, WE, THIS POSITION WOULD ALSO BE AVAILABLE TO ASSIST OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UM, SHOULD THEY HAVE GIS OR ASSET MANAGEMENT NEEDS. 
          UM, AND LIKE I MENTIONED, UH, WE'VE BEEN BUDGETING 150,000, UM, YEARLY. 
          AND IF WE MAKE THIS, UH, POSITION PERMANENT BECAUSE IT IS, UH, THE, MY UNDERSTANDING THE TOWN'S PLAN TO CONTINUE TO USE GIS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT, UM, THE RECURRING COST WOULD ACTUALLY BE A DECREASE OF 35,000 TO 115,000 ANNUAL FROM 150,000 ANNUAL. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS POSITION, BRUCE? SO JUST, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THIS AGAIN? UM, THE WORK CURRENTLY IS DONE BY, ARE WE CONTRACTING WHAT SOMEONE ELSE YES. 
          WE CURRENTLY CONTRACT, AND WHAT DO WE DO WHEN THAT REOCCURRING COST, SINCE IT'S GONNA INCREASE EVERY YEAR, IT'S ABOVE THE 150,000. 
          I MEAN, I, I, I, I SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, BUT 115,000 IS MORE NEXT YEAR. 
          AND THE MORE HOUR, MORE THE NEXT YEAR, AND THE MORE THE NEXT YEAR. 
          SO I GUESS I'M RELYING ON YOU TO TELL US WHEN IS IT BETTER TO CONTRACT OUT AND BRING IN HOUSE? RIGHT, RIGHT NOW, UM, THE PARTICULAR 
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REASON WHY WE HAD BEEN CONTRACTING OUT IS BECAUSE WE WERE REALLY BUILDING THE DATABASE AT THE TIME. 
          WE WERE INTEGRATING THE AIRPORT INTO THE TOWNS GIS SYSTEM. 
          SO THEY STARTED OFF AS KIND OF A, A, UM, DATABASE DATABASE PERSON. 
          THEY WERE COLLECTING ALL THE DATA, INPUTTING IT. 
          WE'VE TRANSITIONED NOW FROM THAT DATABASE COLLECTION AND INPUT TO ADMINISTRATIVE IN NEED. 
          UH, THAT MEANS UPDATING ALL OF OUR SYSTEMS AS PROJECTS FINISH UPDATING AND INPUTTING THAT INFORMATION. 
          BUT NOW WE'RE ALSO TRANSITIONING OVER TO THE ASSET MANAGEMENT PART, WHICH IS A LONG TERM, UH, FACILITY NEED THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND SO FOR THAT REASON, UH, TRANSITIONING FROM THE, UM, BEGINNING PART TO NOW MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE ONGOING LONG TERM, WE FELT THAT THIS PERSON, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE GOING AWAY, WOULD BE A BETTER, A BETTER, UH, PERSON TO HAVE ON STAFF PERMANENTLY THAN CONTINUING TO CONTRACT OUT. 
          THAT WAS THE THOUGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN CONTRACTING THAT CONTRACTOR? MY UNDERSTANDING HAMID WOULD KNOW BEST, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS NOW. 
          I, I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF INSOURCING IT AND, AND THAT IT MAKES SENSE THAT THIS TRANSITION TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MOVING ON TO THE NEXT, UH, POSITION IS THE AIRPORT PROJECT MANAGER POSITION. 
          SO SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS POSITION, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR ENGINEER OF RECORD GARVER TO HELP US WITH SOME ADMINISTRATION, I'LL CALL IT SER SERVICES, UM, WHICH ARE PRIMARILY GEARED AROUND OUR AIRPORT, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WE HAVE TO SUBMIT TO TXDOT EVERY YEAR. 
          AND WHAT THEY DO FOR US IS THE, AS, UH, STEVEN INDICATED, THERE ARE DEFINITE REVENUE SOURCES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT WE RECEIVE THROUGH THE FORM OF GRANTS, EITHER FROM THE AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PLAN OR PROGRAM, OR FROM THE IIJA, UH, WHICH IS, UH, MORE OF A, A RECENT, UH, REVENUE SOURCE. 
          BUT THOSE FUNDING SOURCES TIME OUT, UH, WE CAN, WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THEM INDEFINITELY. 
          UM, AND SO BEING ABLE TO DETERMINE WHICH PROJECTS GO WHEN, UH, REALLY LOOKING AT, UH, WHEN WE'RE GOING TO DESIGN THEM, WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO CONSTRUCT THEM, IS A PRETTY, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT COST, UH, TO US. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN HIRING GARVER TO BE ABLE TO HELP US WITH THAT. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, NOW THAT WE ARE TRANSITIONING FROM COLLECTING THE DATA FOR THE GIS AND ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE ASSET THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN THE CONDITION OF THE ASSETS THAT WE HAVE, WE NEED SOMEONE TO HELP US AND ACTUALLY MANAGE AND REPAIR, MAINTAIN THE ASSETS THAT WE HAVE. 
          THERE'S BEEN AMPLE DISCUSSION, UH, AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN, AS AN EXAMPLE ABOUT THE CONDITION OF TEA HANGERS AND TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE LENGTH OF TIME OF THE TEA HANGERS AS AN EXACT PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHERE THIS PERSON WOULD WORK. 
          IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR AIRPORT ASSET MANAGER, THIS ASSET MANAGER WOULD EVALUATE THE FACILITIES, DETERMINE WHAT NEEDS IT WOULD NEED FOR REPAIR OR MAINTENANCE, AND THEN THE AIRPORT PROJECT MANAGER WOULD COORDINATE THE WORK TO BE DONE AT THOSE FACILITIES. 
          SO THEY WOULD REALLY WORK HAND IN HAND. 
          SO THE PROJECT MANAGER, AGAIN, IS A STRATEGIC MOVE FOR OUR FUTURE. 
          THIS PERSON, UM, WOULD LOOK AT OUR FACILITIES, COORDINATE THE WORK, UH, THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, BUT THEN, UH, THROUGH FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED AS PART OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN PROCESS, THIS PERSON WOULD BE THE POINT PERSON FOR ALL AIRPORT NOISE RELATED MATTERS, INCLUDING THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR INITIATIVE. 
          THIS PERSON WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD RECEIVE NOW EITHER THROUGH THE FIX-IT APP, THROUGH THE PHONE, THROUGH THE, UH, ONLINE FORMS, BE THE ONE THAT RECEIVES, UM, THE INFORMATION FROM OUR RESIDENTS, LOOK INTO WHAT HAPPENED IN THOSE SITUATIONS, AND RESPOND ACCORDINGLY, WHICH BASED ON OUR GOALS, WE PLAN TO, UH, RESPOND WITHIN 24 HOURS OF RECEIVING THOSE. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, THIS ROLE ALIGNS WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AT THE TOWN LEVEL AND A STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE TO LEVERAGE, UM, TO MAXIMIZE BUSINESS GROWTH AND THE EXPANSION NOW THAT WE ARE A FOCAL, UH, POINT OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS POSITION? SO I HAVE ONE. 
          UM, SO WITH THE WORKING ON, ON THE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, ENSURING EFFICIENT AND THE COMPLIANT COMPLIANCE WITH THAT, THERE, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THOSE COMING UP OVER THE NEXT X NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          DO YOU, COULD YOU ANTICIPATE THE AIRPORT GETTING TO A PLACE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE MANY OF THOSE COMING UP WHERE KIND OF BUILT OUT, FINISHED UP? AND WOULD THIS BE LESS OF A DEMAND FOR THIS POSITION AT SOME FUTURE DATE? YEAH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, MR. MAYOR. 
          SO WE DO HAVE 
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SOME RATHER LARGER CAPITAL PROJECTS GONNA, I'M GONNA CALL THEM FOR EXAMPLE, TAX WAY. 
          BRAVO PHASE TWO IS A PRETTY EXTENSIVE PROJECT, AND IT'S A MULTI-YEAR, I WOULD SAY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT POTENTIALLY. 
          UM, BUT BECAUSE OF HOW WE RECEIVE THE FUNDING RIGHT NOW FOR FEDERAL FUNDS AND BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY SAVE THREE TO FOUR YEARS OF THAT CUMULATIVE, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE PROJECTS, UM, AT THE AIRPORT. 
          OTHERWISE THE FUNDING GOES AWAY AND WE, IT GOES UNUSED, BASICALLY. 
          AND SO FOR THAT REASON, THERE MAY BE PERHAPS NOT AS BIG OF A PROJECTS LIKE TAX RATE, BRAVO PHASE TWO, BUT WE SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE SOME SORT OF PROJECT BECAUSE WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE MAXIMIZING THE USE OF THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS AT THE AIRPORT. 
          GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THOSE FUNDS, THIS PERSON IS STILL LOOKING AT OUR ASSETS THAT WE HAVE AND DOING JUST INTERNAL PAID CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU, MARLEY. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          AND SO, AS FAR AS THIS COST OFFSET OF 50,000, WHO, WHO IS, WHO IS, UH, PROVIDING WHAT SERVICES, UH, TO US RIGHT NOW FOR THAT RELATED TO THAT COST OFFSET? YES, THANK YOU. 
          SO OUR TOTAL COST RIGHT NOW, UH, THROUGH GARVER ENGINEERING IS A HUNDRED FORTY EIGHT, TWO SIXTY ONE. 
          WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE FIRST YEAR, THIS IS JUST THE FIRST YEAR, THE SERVICES THAT THE AIRPORT PROJECT MANAGER IS GOING TO BE PROVIDING WOULD PROVIDE US WITH A SAVINGS OF $50,000. 
          SO THE NET COST WOULD BE NA, 98,261. 
          AS THIS PERSON, THIS INDIVIDUAL COMES, UH, ONBOARD, UH, REALLY LOOKS AT ALL THE TASKS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, UH, THEY GET MORE COMFORTABLE, THEY GET MORE, UM, UH, IN THE GROOVE IN TERMS OF DOING THE WORK. 
          WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE SAVINGS WOULD, IS GOING TO GROW BECAUSE WE WOULD REDUCE THE NEED FOR GARVER TO HELP US WITH OTHER TASKS, UM, AT THAT POINT. 
          BUT INITIALLY WE BELIEVE THAT THERE WOULD BE A COST SAVINGS OF $50,000 FROM THE 148,000. 
          DO YOU, DO, YOU KNOW, UH, ROUGHLY, UM, WITH THESE RELATED COSTS, HOW MUCH WE'RE, WE'RE PAYING GARVER PER YEAR? RIGHT NOW, FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE PART, WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE, UM, PAYING ABOUT $75,000 FOR GARVER FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE ME MAINTENANCE PART. 
          THE OTHER 70, THE OTHER ALMOST $78,000 IN TOTAL COST OF GARVER REALLY IS IN THE FORM OF PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO REALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE, UH, UH, $75,000, UH, COST OFFSET IN THE FUTURE. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THINKING RIGHT NOW, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO CAN WE GO BACK TO, UH, SLIDE 48? YOU'RE ADDING THREE POSITIONS, BUT YOU ARE, UH, OPERATING EXPENSES SHOW TO BE GOING DOWN THROUGH 2028. 
          WHAT AM I MISSING? SO THE, THE OPERATING EXPENSES ARE NOT GOING DOWN. 
          SO THE OVERALL EXPENSES ARE BECAUSE IN, UM, WHICH ONE? OH, ACTUALLY, I, I DO SEE WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. 
          LET ME GO BACK HERE. 
          UM, OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          SO I BELIEVE THAT SOMETHING MUST BE ROLLING OFF, UH OH, EXPENSES. 
          LOOK AT THIS. 
          OPERATING EXPENSES ARE THE, ARE THE DARK, DARK IS THE BLUE DARK BLUE BLUE. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY 2028. 
          IT JUST GOES DOWN. 
          LOOKS, YEAH. 
          THE REASON, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING DOWN IN 2028 IS REALLY BECAUSE, UH, THE OPERATING EXPENSES ALSO INCLUDES THOSE, UH, THOSE ONE TIME ITEMS. SO THERE'S 410,001 TIME DECISION PACKAGES, AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN 2027. 
          SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING DOWN FROM 27 TO 28. 
          LOOKS LIKE THE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES ARE, ARE GOING DOWN ALSO BETWEEN THE TWO. 
          YEAH, BETWEEN 25 AND 2026, IT, THE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES DID GO DOWN. 
          THAT WAS ONE QUESTION. 
          AND THEN BACK TO THE OTHER QUESTION FOR JAMIE. 
          SO JUST CURIOUS, WE'VE GOT THREE POSITIONS WE'RE, WE'RE CONVERTING FROM, PARTIALLY FROM CONTRACTOR, THEN ADDING, AND WE HAVEN'T GOT TO THE THIRD ONE YET, BUT IT'S, IS THERE A BIGGER PICTURE OF WHY NOW THESE THREE NEW FTES? IS THERE SOMETHING I'M MISSING? DO WE HAVE EXTRA MONEY THAT WE NEED TO SPEND OR STUFF THAT'S BEEN DIVER, UH, UM, DEFERRED? NO. 
          WELL, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN. 
          SO YES. 
          UM, CONTRACTUALLY WE ARE GOING DOWN, UH, WITH THESE POSITIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE PERFORMING THESE, NUMBER ONE. 
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NUMBER TWO IS WE DID HAVE ALSO, WE'RE LOOKING ALSO AT AN OPERATING DECREASE BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY ARE SWITCHING. 
          WE ONCE HAD TWO ASSISTANT AIRPORT DIRECTORS, AND RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE ONE AND WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN TO FILL THE OTHER AIRPORT ASSISTANT DIRECTOR POSITION. 
          SO THAT DECREASED ALSO THE COST THAT WE HAD, UH, OPERATIONS WISE. 
          BUT WHY NOW, WE ACTUALLY, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAD CONSIDERED PREVIOUSLY CHANGING, UH, THE GIS ANALYST POSITION FROM CONTRACTUAL TO PERMANENT LAST FISCAL YEAR. 
          BUT THE DECISION WAS NOT MADE TO DO THAT AT THE, UH, LAST FISCAL. 
          SO WE BROUGHT IT BACK AGAIN THIS YEAR BASED AGAIN ON THE FACT THAT WE'RE CHANGING FROM DATABASE TO ADMINISTRATION FROM THE PROJECT MANAGER, BECAUSE AS MR. MAYOR POINTED OUT, THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING UP, SOME PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL PROJECTS. 
          UM, AND ALSO EVALUATING THE COSTS THAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING TO OUR, UH, FIRM, ENGINEERING FIRM. 
          WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO USE THIS POSITION, THE AIRPORT PROJECT MANAGER, TO HELP US WITH THE AIRPORT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WITH, WITH, UH, THE PROJECTS AND THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT OF THE UPCOMING PROJECTS. 
          BUT ALSO NOW WITH HELPING US WITH NOISE AS WELL, AND WITH, UH, HELPING WITH THE, UH, MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF THE FACILITIES, UM, THAT WE HAVE, UH, ALSO LISTED IN DECISION PACKAGES THAT ARE COMING UP. 
          SO I GUESS THE THIRD ONE'S REALLY THE, THE POSITION WOULD I, I HAVE A LITTLE MORE COMMENT ON, BUT FOR THIS ONE I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON. 
          SO THE AIRPORT IS, UM, INCREASING THE PRODUCTIVITY, UM, AND THE TYPES OF AIRCRAFT. 
          AND, AND THEN WE'VE SEEN SOME NOISE, UH, AND, AND, AND BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, OUR RESIDENTS, TO TAKE CARE OF OUR RESIDENTS, WORKING REALLY HARD ON THE NOISE PROGRAM, I CAN KIND OF CONSIDER THE, THE AIRPORT NOISE RELATED MATTERS AND MANAGEMENT OF THAT AND GOOD NEIGHBOR COST OF DOING BUSINESS. 
          SO COST OF BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THE RESIDENTS THAT DO LIVE AROUND HERE. 
          'CAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED THE AIRPORT. 
          I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          I THINK IT'S STRATEGIC, UH, BUT THE NEIGHBORS DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BENEFIT DIRECTLY FROM IT DIRECTLY, IF YOU WILL. 
          SO, UH, THIS, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE, WE HAVE TO DO AS A CITY TO, TO MAKE THE AIRPORT AS GOOD A NEIGHBOR AS IT CAN BE TO, TO THE PEOPLE. 
          I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS IN THERE. 
          I THINK IT'S A DIRECT COST TO DOING BUSINESS FOR THE AIRPORT GROWTH. 
          YEAH, DURING MY CONVERSATIONS WITH TWO, PARTICULARLY TWO, UM, RESIDENTS IN TOWN, THEY VERY MUCH RECOMMENDED THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE A POINT PERSON, JUST LIKE A, WE ILLUSTRATE HERE TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THE AIRPORT NOISE. 
          BEN, THANK YOU, JAMIE. 
          SO YOU JUST HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD FOR ME. 
          SO, BACK TO THAT MEETING WE HAD AT THE, UH, OLD TOWN HALL AND THE OPINIONS, OR THE VOICES THAT WERE HEARD WAS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE SOMEBODY ALMOST AS A POINT PERSON BEYOND YOURSELF FOR THOSE COMPLAINTS, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE REFERRING THEM TO GO TO THE WEBSITE FOR THE FA A'S WEBSITE. 
          SO THIS VIS-A-VIS THE, THE FIX IT APP, IF THEY CHOSE THAT AND THAT ISN'T THE RIGHT ASSET TO CHOOSE, BUT NOW THERE'S A NAME WITH A, A PERSON BEHIND THE EXTENSION. 
          YES. 
          SO LEVEL THAT THEY GIVE BACK TO THE TAX PAID, AND YOU'RE GONNA PAY FOR A SERVICE, BUT THIS IS THE SERVICE THAT THE, THE CONSTITUENTS REALLY, REALLY WANT. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, MOVE ON TO NUMBER THREE, AIRPORT MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN. 
          SO, UM, THIS PAST YEAR WE ACTUALLY HAD A, UH, A GROUP COME OUT AND, UH, EVALUATE THE AIRPORT IN TERMS OF ITS STAFF. 
          UH, WHAT ALL OF THE JOBS AND RESPONSIBILITIES WERE, UH, AT THE AIRPORT, WHAT EVERYONE WAS WORKING ON, WHAT SYSTEMS WE USED. 
          THEY USED THAT. 
          THEY LOOKED AT A DIFFERENT, A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP IS, UH, THAT REPORT INDICATED THAT WE WERE SHORT ON STAFF, PARTICULARLY IN THE MAINTENANCE, UH, GROUP. 
          THE, AND SO THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO ADD A MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN, WHICH WOULD IMPROVE OUR MAINTENANCE COVERAGE, BOOST OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY, AND ACCELERATE RESPONSE TIMES. 
          I OFTEN GET ASKED HOW, WHY ADDISON? JAMIE, WHY, WHY DID YOU CHOOSE TO COME TO ADDISON IF YOU ARE IN THE AIRPORT INDUSTRY? ADDISON IS A PREMIER AIRPORT. 
          IT'S KNOWN AS SUCH. 
          THE TOWN SHOULD BE PROUD TO HAVE THE AIRPORT BECAUSE IT IS A KNOWN AIRPORT. 
          AND WHEN YOU GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE FACILITIES, WE HAVE STUPENDOUS FACILITIES. 
          OUR FACILITIES ARE IN GREAT SHAPE. 
          BUT, UM, IF, UH, WE'VE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT OVER THE LAST YEAR IS THAT, UH, WE WERE USING PERHAPS CERTAIN ELEMENTS OR CERTAIN TOOLS, UH, THAT WERE, UM, NOT WORKING OUT AS WELL. 
          FOR US, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WERE USING, UH, SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL WEEDS, UM, AT THE AIRPORT, UH, WHICH WOULD HELP US, INSTEAD OF MOWING. 
          IT WOULD HELP US, UH, TO SLOW THE GRASS DOWN. 
          BUT THAT CAUSED OTHER ISSUES LIKE RUTS 
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AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          IT MADE THE GRASS WEAKER. 
          WE'VE, UH, STOPPED USING THAT. 
          UH, BUT NOW WE HAVE TO MOW MORE, UH, WHICH IS, WHICH IS FINE. 
          IT, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE MANPOWER REALLY COMES. 
          AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE, THE REPORT THAT WE GOT BACK, AND THEY BASED IT ON THE INTERNATIONAL FACILITY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION, WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING IS A, UH, A VERY GOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, TO FOLLOW, UH, BENCHMARKING REPORTS FROM. 
          WE ARE SHORT ON THE MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL, UH, BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF BOTH SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE HAVE IN BUILDINGS, AND ALSO THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE HAVE OUT, UM, IN THE EXPOSED AREAS OUT ON THE LAND. 
          AND BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, WE ARE SHORT ON POSITIONS AND ARE LOOKING TO ADD THIS, OF COURSE, WE FOLLOW ALL OF THE CRITERIA RELATED TO THE AIRFIELD, PRIMARILY ON FAAS, UM, REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND MY, WHEN I GET ASKED TO, UH, WHAT IS YOUR MAIN GOAL? MY GOAL IS, OF COURSE, TO KEEP THE ADDISON AIRPORT AS EFFICIENT, AS SAFE AND SECURE AS POSSIBLE, UH, FOLLOWING FAS CRITERIA. 
          AND OF COURSE, THE TOWN STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE ADDING, WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD THE MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN POSITION. 
          QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? WELL, CHRIS, IT'S FTE, MAN, THIS ONE MAKES SENSE TO ME. 
          I, AFTER EVERYTHING WE WENT THROUGH ON THE AIRPORT STUDY AND, AND THE THINGS YOU JUST SAID, SO I'VE GOT NO COMMENT ON THIS. 
          SO AS DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, I, YOU KNOW, ON THE FTE, FIRST OF ALL, I SEE THAT IT'S COMING FROM THE AIRPORT. 
          SO THE AIRPORT'S PAYING IT, ITS EXPENSES, PAYING ITS WAY, I DO LIKE THAT. 
          UM, SO I THINK MAYBE HAS THE CONVENTIONAL LEASE AMOUNT INCREASED OR DECREASED ON THE AIRPORT, UH, VERSUS PRIVATE, UM, UH, GROUND LEASES. 
          I MEAN GROUND LEASES. 
          'CAUSE WHEN YOU, WHEN SAY CAVANAUGH, THEY HAD SO MANY 10 THOUSANDS OF SQUARE FEET OF HANGAR SPACE THAT WAS BEING, THAT WAS A LEASE FROM THE AIRPORT. 
          UM, NOT A GROUND LEASE, BUT CONVENTIONAL LEASE, COMMERCIAL LEASE, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED. 
          SO THEREFORE YOU HAD MORE LIABILITY OF MAINTAINING THE FACILITIES, RIGHT? SO AS THESE FACILITIES, GROUND LEASE EXPIRES AND THEN NEW GROUND LEASES ARE, ARE PUT IN PLACE WITH NEW BUILDINGS THAT LOWERS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTENANCE. 
          SO IS THAT AMOUNT OF CONVENTIONAL LEASE, HAS IT INCREASED OR DECREASED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS? INCREASED CONVENTIONAL LEASES? YEAH. 
          OUR CONVENTIONAL LEASES ARE, WHICH IS AN EXAMPLE, THE T HANGER LEASES, YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, YOUR, YOUR BOX HANGER LEASES, CONVENTIONAL HANGER LEASES, BUT EVEN, UM, UH, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING, CONSIDERING NEW LAND LEASES MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT. 
          THOSE, THOSE HAVE INCREASED YEAR OVER YEAR AS WELL. 
          ADDITIONAL AIR AIRPORT PROPERTY THAT'S NOT BEING GROUND LEASED RIGHT NOW. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THIS PAST YEAR WE STARTED TO CONSIDER THE POTENTIAL TO REDEVELOP FIVE ACRES OVER ON THE WEST SIDE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT RATE NOW, UH, THAT WE'RE FINISHING UP THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, AND WHENEVER WE DO RELEASE THAT FIVE ACRES, THAT RATE FOR THE LAND LEASE IS LIKELY TO BE HIGHER THAN WHAT IT WOULD'VE BEEN SHOULD WE HAVE GONE FORWARD WITH IT LAST YEAR. 
          SO I, I GUESS ADDING THIS POSITION, UM, ASSUMES THAT THE SERVICE LEVEL PRIOR TO ADDING THIS POSITION WAS LOWER THAN WE WANTED. 
          THE SERVICE LEVEL THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING HAS BEEN GOOD. 
          UM, THERE ARE SOME AREAS, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE MOWING PAINTING MARKINGS, ET CETERA, THAT WE'VE HAD TO IMPROVE. 
          AND WITH THAT COMES MORE WORK. 
          AND WITH THAT, YES, THE REASON WHY WE WOULD INCREASE THE RATES WOULD BE TO MATCH THAT SERVICE LEVEL. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO KEEP IN MIND IS, IS IF WE WEREN'T REALLY HITTING THE MARK, BUT WE WERE DOING OKAY, THIS IS AN ELEVATION OF, OF WHAT, UH, HOW WE WERE DOING BEFORE. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE TO BE AWARE OF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I'VE GOT ON THIS ONE IS, I MEAN, WE'RE GROWING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, RIGHT? WE'RE, WE'RE CONSTRUCTING NEW HANGAR SPACE. 
          SO INDIRECTLY, YOU TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT INDIRECTLY WE'RE, WE'RE GROWING AVIL ARM. 
          SO INDIRECTLY WE'RE, THIS POSITION IS SOMEWHAT SEEING AN OFFSET SOMEWHAT EXCEPT THAT THE RUNWAYS AND TAX WASTE, FOR EXAMPLE, ALL STAY THE SAME. 
          THO THOSE AREN'T REDUCING IN SIZE. 
          WHAT WE'RE REDUCING IN SIZE IS WHAT WE CAN LEASE OUT, WHICH RIGHT NOW, IF IT'S, UH, DIRT OR GRASS, THEN WE MOW. 
          UM, BUT THAT, THAT'S REALLY MINIMAL. 
          IT'S NOT THAT MUCH REALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE SPACES THAT WE CURRENTLY MANAGE, THE BUILDINGS THAT WE MANAGE. 
          AND THEN THE 412,747, UM, ACTUALLY IT'S, UH, 386 ACRES. 
          THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT 
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ARE THE TAXIWAYS, RUNWAYS, TAXI LANES, AND THOSE AREN'T GONNA SHRINK. 
          I SEE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS JAMIE. 
          SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND. 
          SO LIKE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, THERE'S CODE COMPLIANCE AND THERE'S SOMETIMES ISSUES THAT ARISE IN AND AROUND THE TOWN ITSELF. 
          THE AIRPORT IS ALMOST LIKE THE VATICAN, RIGHT? IT'S OWN IT'S OWN LITTLE CITY. 
          'CAUSE IT IS NOT LIKE PEOPLE ARE MEANDERING OUT ON THE RUNWAYS OR, YOU KNOW, JUST YEAH, YOU'RE THE POPE. 
          UM, DO WE EVER HAVE, WOULD THIS POSITION EVER STUMBLE UPON? DO WE HAVE OUR STAFF THAT STUMBLE UPON CODE ISSUES OR THINGS OF MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT BELONG TO THE FBOS? ? I'M GLAD YOU BRING THAT UP. 
          THE AIRPORT PROJECT MANAGER POSITION WILL BE THE INSPECTOR FOR THE AIRPORT. 
          SO THIS IS GOING TO BE THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S GOING TO SCHEDULE, UH, FOR THE FACILITIES THAT WE OWN AND MANAGE, IS GOING TO BE SCHEDULING, AT LEAST ON AN ANNUAL VISIT, AN INSPECTION TO EACH FACILITY TO LOOK EXACTLY FOR THE CODE COMPLIANCE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE DON'T GET TO, MOST OF US DON'T EVER GET TO SEE WHAT GOES ON INSIDE THOSE BOUNDARIES STAY INSIDE THE BOUNDARIES. 
          CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          SO THIS, BEYOND THE PROJECT MANAGER, ALSO THE, THE MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN, THAT'S JUST AN EXTRA SET OF EYES, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          YOU SEE SOMETHING? SAY SOMETHING. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT. 
          AND, AND, AND WE DON'T REALLY EVER HAVE A WORD AGAIN, FEES OR FINES, DO WE? WE, WE DO NOT, NOT, UH, WITHIN OUR AIRPORT RULES AND REGS. 
          WE DO NOT CURRENTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          PAULA. 
          YEAH, JAMIE, IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER POSITION SHORTAGES THAT, THAT WE HAVE SHORTAGES? I'M GONNA SAY NO. 
          UM, MAINTENANCE WAS THE MAIN, UH, SHORT, UH, POSITION THAT WE HAD. 
          UM, FROM THAT REPORT, THERE WERE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE REPORT, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT WITH THE COMPLIMENT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE CAN MAKE, CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          I, I WILL SAY FOR JAMIE, I, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST, AND I THINK AFTER THE STUDY WAS TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE POSITION TO HAVE TWO MAINTENANCE POSITIONS. 
          THE BUDGET YOU SEE BEFORE YOU HAS ONE, BECAUSE WE WANNA HAVE, WE WANNA ADD ONE AND SEE HOW IT WORKS AND, AND SEE SOME DATA ON THE GROUND AND SEE WHAT'S REALLY NECESSARY. 
          SO WHILE THE DATA IS SUPPORTED GOING ALL THE WAY TO TWO, WE ONLY PUT ONE IN THE BUDGET JUST TO SEE HOW IT GOES AND WHAT WE NEED. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST, UM, THIS IS, UH, WE'RE ADDING A LOT OF POSITIONS IN THIS FROM THIS FUND, AND WE JUST, WE, WE HAVE CONTINUED TO DO THAT, I GUESS OVER THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, SO I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS WHERE, WHERE, WHAT THIS GONNA LOOK LIKE A YEAR FROM NOW. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE ADDED P WE'VE ADDED, WE'VE HAD THE FUND PAY FOR MORE POSITIONS. 
          IT'S PAYING FOR MORE POSITIONS THAT ARE TYPICALLY PAID FOR FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 
          AND I, I AM JUST, YOU KNOW, I GUESS ON WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS FTES. 
          FTES, RIGHT? SO IT'S BEEN PAYING FOR MORE POSITIONS IN THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FT SUMMARY, YOU SEE THAT IT'S PAYING IT OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, BEEN PAYING FOR MORE POSITIONS, PORTIONS OF POSITIONS FROM THE GENERAL FUND THAT DO ACTIVITIES FOR THE AIRPORT FUND. 
          SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT TOTAL, YOU SEE IT'S INCREASED. 
          THAT'S A DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD WITH COUNCIL. 
          NOW THAT THE AIRPORT FUND IS SELF-SUFFICIENT, IT CAN PAY FOR THOSE, THOSE EXPENSES IT SHOULD BE PAYING FOR. 
          UM, SO I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT TOTAL OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, HOW IT'S INCREASED, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S DRIVING THAT INCREASE IN THAT FTE TOTAL OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. 
          YEAH. 
          I GUESS, I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS, UM, I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS. 
          SURE. 
          YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, IS THAT WHERE WE'RE, IS THAT WHERE WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SEE THREE OR FOUR, UM, FT YOU CALL 'EM WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL 'EM, AND YOU FUND THEM HOWEVER YOU WANNA FUND THEM. 
          BUT, BUT, BUT IT JUST, I DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE THIS SHORT ON, ON, UH, WORKFORCE, IF YOU WILL, UM, UNTIL YOU'D LIKE A LOOK BACK. 
          UM, BECAUSE WE WERE GIVEN NO INDICATION AT THAT TIME WHEN WE HIRED, WHEN WE BROUGHT ON MORE, THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO NEED MORE. 
          SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S COMING NEXT YEAR, WHAT MIGHT COME NEXT YEAR, ARE WE THAT LACKING NOW OR IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE, WE'VE GOT IT FAIRLY COVERED OTHER THAN POSSIBLY ONE MAINTENANCE WORKER OR FOR POSSIBLY NEXT YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST ADDING A LOT OF, A LOT OF PEOPLE, UH, OVER THE YEARS IS WHAT I'M SEEING FROM PAGE 27 ON THE BUDGET BOOK. 
          I WOULD JUST TO PROVIDE THAT CLARITY. 
          AGAIN, THAT BOTTOM LINE IS NOT NEW POSITIONS NECESSARILY, IT'S JUST THAT THE AIRPORT FUND IS NOW PAYING FOR SOME FTS THAT ALREADY EXISTED IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          I SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WAS IT BECAUSE, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TOWARDS MOVING AWAY FROM CONTRACTORS TO MAYBE FTES. 
          I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND AND AIRPORT FUND, THE SEVEN TOTAL FTES MM-HMM . 
          TWO OR THREE OF THEM MM-HMM . 
          YES. 
          AND THOSE ARE, AND WE'VE 
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JUST TAKEN CASE BY CASE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S CHEAPER AND, AND MAKES MORE SENSE TO DO IT IN-HOUSE. 
          SURE. 
          WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND TO DO IT IN-HOUSE. 
          AND SO I THINK IT, YEAH, I THINK IT'S TRUE THAT THIS YEAR WE HAD MULTIPLE OF THOSE, BUT MM-HMM . 
          UM, THE SAME IDEA BEHIND THEM. 
          UM, NEXT THING, JAMIE, CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR, I THINK HE SAID HE WAS A AIRPORT ASSET MANAGER. 
          HE JUST STARTED, UM, VERSUS YOUR AIRPORT PROJECT MANAGER. 
          AND WILL THE PROJECT MANAGER REPORT TO THE ASSET MANAGER AND THEN THE ASSET MANAGER REPORT TO BILL? OR CAN YOU JUST TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO THE AIRPORT ASSET MANAGER, THAT INDIVIDUAL IS THE INDIVIDUAL THAT IS GOING TO BE EVALUATING CONTINUOUSLY WHAT THE CURRENT CONDITION OUR FACILITIES ARE. 
          ALL OF THESE, UH, THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN HERE, THE THOUSANDS OF, OF SQUARE FEET THAT WE HAVE, BOTH T HANGERS, CONVENTIONAL HANGERS, AND OTHER BUILDINGS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, WILEY POST THAT WE HAVE AN OFFICE COMPLEX WHERE WE HAVE, UM, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TENANTS. 
          THAT INDIVIDUAL IS, UH, GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, UH, ALL OF THOSE FACILITIES EVALUATING WHAT REPAIRS NEED TO BE DONE, WHAT MAINTENANCE NEEDS TO BE DONE, DOING MORE, CAPTURING MORE DATA THAN WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN THAT POSITION. 
          AND THEN NOT ONLY CAPTURING IT, BUT INPUTTING IT INTO IRIS, THE ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN DETERMINE WHAT LIABILITIES, WHAT COSTS WE MAY HAVE IN THE FUTURE. 
          THE AIRPORT PROJECT MANAGER POSITION THEN GRABS THAT, UM, CONDITION AND GETS THE INFORMATION FROM THE ASSET MANAGER AND ACTUALLY COORDINATES BE, IS ABLE TO HELP IN GETTING ESTIMATES FOR WORK, BUT ALSO COORDINATING THE WORK, ACTUALLY BRING THE PEOPLE IN AND HAVE THEM DO THE WORK AND EVALUATE THEIR WORK SUCCESS OR NOT. 
          UM, AND THEN BASICALLY HAND THAT PROPERTY BACK TO THE ASSET MANAGER TO HAVE IN THE PORTFOLIO. 
          AND THAT WOULD ALSO IN REQUIRE INPUT INTO THE ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, AGAIN, WITH THE UPDATED, UH, INFORMATION RELATED TO WHAT WAS DONE. 
          IF, FOR EXAMPLE, A NEW ROOF WAS PUT IN, HOW MUCH IT COST, WHO PUT IT IN, WHAT THE WARRANTY IS, ALL THAT INFORMATION GOES INTO IRIS. 
          AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY WE HAVE, UH, WORK, UH, THAT WE NEED TO DO IMPROVEMENT WISE IN TERMS OF CAPTURING AND INPUTTING THAT DATA, KEEPING IT UPDATED. 
          DID HE GET THE, UH, THE TWO HANGERS PAINTED? CORRECT. 
          DID HE NOT YET. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          BUT, UM, IN TERMS OF WHO REPORTS TO WHOM, THE ASSET MANAGER REPORT IS PART OF THE REAL ESTATE GROUP. 
          THAT INDIVIDUAL REPORTS TO THE, TO BILL DYER, CURRENTLY ASSISTANT, UH, AIRPORT DIRECTOR. 
          THE PROJECT MANAGER IS GOING TO, UM, REPORT TO ME DIRECTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU MENTIONED THERE WAS A DIRECTOR LEVEL POSITION OR SOMETHING OF, OF THAT, THAT VERBIAGE. 
          SO THAT, THAT POSITION, HOW MANY OF THOSE, WHAT WAS THE POSITION YOU MENTIONED? YES, WE ONCE HAD TWO AIRPORT ASSISTANT DIRECTORS. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU WILL RECALL DARCY NSO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND UPON HER DEPARTURE, WE DID NOT FILL THAT POSITION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO DIDN'T FILL THAT POSITION AND KIND OF DISPERSE SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES ELSEWHERE CROSS YES. 
          AND, AND IT ROLLS DOWN TO SOME OF THESE OTHER POSITIONS OR SIDEWAYS. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          UH, AND WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, WE'RE MAINTAINING PROPERTY WE OWN, YOU MEAN THESE ARE GROUND UH, THESE ARE COMMERCIAL LEASES THAT WE, OR OUR OWN BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING. 
          SO THE VAST MAJORITY OF 'EM ARE INCOME PRODUCING, UH, PROPERTIES, RIGHT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO KNOW. 
          AND THE 412,000 SQUARE FEET IS, IS THOSE RIGHT? YES. 
          IT'S NOT THE PRIVATE GROUND LEASES THAT ARE MAINTAINING THEIR OWN BUILDINGS. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO TO MARLON'S POINT, SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUTURE GROWTH LOOKS LIKE. 
          ALSO, GIVEN THE EXPENSES ALSO BACK ON WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, IT SHOWS IT'S STILL DEC DECREASING TO 2028. 
          SO TO ME, UH, DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE'RE, IS THAT THE FORMER AIRPORT DIRECTOR OR SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS, CONTRACTUAL SERVICES THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING AWAY? UH, BUT BACK ON THE, UH, FORECAST, YOU ALREADY SPOKE TO IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW ON ALL THESE, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE OR ADDING THIS POSITION? DOES IT LOOK LIKE WE'RE ADDING A NEXT POSITION? SO IN THIS TOPIC, WE'VE ALREADY COVERED IT, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE GROWTH WISE ON THE AIRPORT, UH, FTE, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT, UM, FOR THE FUTURE, SO UNDERSTOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THOSE ARE THE THREE POSITIONS. 
          HERE ARE SOME PROJECTS, UH, THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO, UH, PRESENT TO 
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YOU. 
          ONE IS RUBBER REMOVAL. 
          SO EVERY TIME A PLANE LANDS ON THE AIRPORT, IF YOU OUT GO, EVER HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT TO THE AIRPORT, WE CAN TAKE YOU OUT ONTO THE RUNWAY. 
          AND ON THE RUNWAY, YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S SOME GROOVES ON THE RUNWAY. 
          THOSE GROOVES ARE PUT THERE ON PURPOSE TO BE ABLE TO INCREASE THE BRAKING ACTION. 
          THE ABILITY FOR PLANES TO STOP ON THE RUNWAY, THAT MEANS, UH, BE ABLE TO STOP WHEN THERE'S RAIN ON IT, OR SNOW, OR ICE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          BUT EVERY TIME THAT A PLANE LANDS, YOU'LL SEE LIKE A LITTLE PUFF OF SMOKE. 
          THAT PUFFS OF SMOKE IS NOT REALLY SMOKE. 
          WHAT IT IS, IS RUBBER. 
          RUBBER THAT COMES OFF BECAUSE OF THOSE GROOVES THAT RUBBER ACCUMULATES ON THE RUNWAYS WITH TIME. 
          AND IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OFF EVERY SO OFTEN. 
          AND SO AS PART OF NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE A COMPANY COME OUT AND REMOVE THAT RUBBER THAT'S BEEN ACCUMULATED ON THE RUNWAY. 
          YOU CAN TELL THAT IT'S ON THERE BECAUSE THERE'S A BLACK AREA, DARKER AREA ON THE RUNWAY, UM, WHERE THE RUBBER EXISTS AS TO WHERE THERE IS NO RUBBER. 
          AND SO FOR THAT REASON, WE ARE, UM, LOOKING TO ASK FOR THIS, THIS, UH, TASK TO BE COMPLETED NEXT FISCAL YEAR. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RUBBER REMOVAL? I MEAN, HOW OFTEN DOES SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAVE TO BE DONE? EVERY FEW YEARS. 
          UM, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE WERE DOING IT HERE EVERY TWO TO THREE YEARS, AND IT HAS BEEN THAT LONG NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, DAN. 
          AS PRACTICAL TO SOUND, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING OUR, UM, WITH BECKY DEVIN'S TEAM, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WE COULD DO INTERNALLY WITH OUR OWN STAFF. 
          ACTUALLY, WE ARE GOING, WE AT THE AIRPORT ARE GONNA DO A, A TEST, IF YOU WILL. 
          UH, WE GOT A SAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT IS, UH, IT, IT'S, UM, AN AGENT THAT LOOKS TO BREAK UP THE RUBBER AND THEN YOU, WE, BY MECHANICAL MEANS WE SCRUB IT OFF AND THEN WE VACUUM IT OFF. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A TEST. 
          BUT, UM, SOMETIMES THE RUBBER IS SO STUCK ON THERE AND IT'S SO PLENTIFUL THAT TYPICALLY WHAT WE BRING IS A WATER BLASTING TRUCK. 
          THE CONTRACTED COMPANY BRINGS A WATER BLASTING TRUCK SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU MAY SEE THAT REMOVES PAINT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE HAVE SOMETHING, WE DON'T HAVE A POWER WA OR SAND BLAST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE THAT. 
          WE DON'T NOT HAVE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS JIMMY. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MOVING ON TO THE SECOND ITEM. 
          PAVEMENT, CRACK, REPAIR AND SEAL, UH, OF THE TEE HANGERS. 
          THIS OFTEN HAPPENS WITH, YOU HAVE A ASPHALT WITH ASPHALT. 
          WITH OUR HIGH TEMPERATURES HERE IN TEXAS, YOU START TO GET, UH, DEVELOP SOME CRACKS ALONG, UH, THE PAVEMENT. 
          AND SO THIS PROJECT IS TO BE ABLE TO SEAL THOSE CRACKS. 
          AND THEN, UH, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS THEN SEAL ALL OF THE PAVEMENT. 
          WE WOULD FILL THE CRACKS, THEN SEAL ALL THE PAVEMENT, AND THEN COME BACK AND PAINT THE MARKINGS BACK ON ON THAT. 
          AND THESE, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THIS WORK AROUND TEA HANGERS THAT WE HAVE. 
          UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, UH, A LOT OF THIS WORK WOULD TAKE PLACE ON THE WEST SIDE OVER ON THE BRAVO HANGERS, THE SMALL T HANGERS THAT WE HAVE BY WILEY POST. 
          UM, THESE, THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK WOULD BE TAKING PLACE THERE WHERE WE DO HAVE ASPHALT AROUND THOSE T HANGERS. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? I GUESS SAME QUESTION FOR ME. 
          JAMIE HOFFMAN. 
          DOES THAT HAVE TO BE DONE? HOW LONG DOES THIS REPAIR LAST? A FEW YEARS? THIS, THIS TYPE OF WORK, UH, DEPENDING ON THE QUALITY OF THE WORK THAT WE GET DONE, COULD LAST FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS AT MOST. 
          IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH, UH, WORK WE PUT INTO IT. 
          IF WE, UH, DON'T REQUIRE THE CRACK REPAIRS AND ONLY CEILING, THEN IT WOULD BE A, A SMALLER PROJECT, IF YOU WILL. 
          AND THIS IS JUST ON ASPHALT, NOT CONCRETE, JUST IN THE ASPHALT, NOT THE CONCRETE. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          JAMIE, DID YOU SAY THE WEST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT? YES, THE WEST SIDE. 
          TAXIWAY, BRAVO, SOUTHWEST T HANGERS IS WHERE THE PRIMARILY THIS WORK WILL TAKE PLACE. 
          AMY, IS THIS WARRANTIED THAT KIND OF WORK? IT DOES COME WITH A WARRANTY WHEN THE WORK IS DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO POTENTIALLY WITHIN THAT 3, 4, 5 YEAR, IT WOULD BE EVALUATED BY THE NOT AS TYPICALLY. 
          NO MORE THAN TWO YEARS. 
          A YEAR. 
          TWO YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT, MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS PATIO AND T HANGERS. 
          SO, GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK AS PART OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLANS ABOUT TRYING TO CONSERVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, UH, THE TEE HANGERS THAT WE DO HAVE, UM, AND WE PLAN TO DO THAT. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHS, SOME OF THE TEE HANGER DOORS, UM, ARE NEEDING PAINT AND PAINT OF COURSE, STOPS CORROSION AND CORROSION, OF COURSE, IS WHAT WE DON'T WANT. 
          RIGHT. 
          IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE TEE HANGERS. 
          THE SAME GO IS TRUE FOR THE PATIO HANGERS. 
          THE PATIO HANGERS ARE EVEN MORE EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS, UM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY DOORS OR ANYTHING. 
          SO THE UNDERSIDE OF THE ROOF, FOR EXAMPLE, IS EXPOSED A LOT MORE TO THE ELEMENTS. 
          BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO, UM, HAVE THESE HANGERS AND PATIO HANGERS REPAINTED SO 
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THAT THEY CONTINUE TO, UH, STAY AT THE AIRPORT AS WE HAVE NO PLANS RIGHT NOW TO, TO DO DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT IN THESE AREAS. 
          SO THESE PRIMARILY WOULD BE IN YOUR TANGO AND ROMEO NEIGHBORHOODS AT THE AIRPORT AND IS NEEDED OVER ON THE, THE NOVEMBER OR THE TAXIWAY BRAVO TEE HANGERS. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, NOT LONG AGO, MILLIONAIRE REPAINTED ALL THE EXTERIORS ON THEIR HANGERS. 
          AND THEY, I, I FEEL LIKE IF I, I REMEMBER RIGHT THAT THEY, THEY USED A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PAINT TO MAKE IT LAST LONGER. 
          IS DO WE USE SOMETHING SIMILAR HERE OR WE, WE WOULD USE IT'S, THIS IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL HOUSE PAINT? NO. 
          UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UH, DIFFERENT SO THAT IT CAN WITHSTAND THE HIGH SINCE IT'S SUCH A HIGH, BIG PROFILE MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT IT CAN WITHSTAND THE ELEMENTS, UH, AND THE TEMPERATURES. 
          OKAY. 
          MUCH MORE. 
          WOULD IT BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY DID OR NOT NECESSARILY? I ANTICIPATE THAT IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY USED. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          JAMIE. 
          IS THIS LIKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT WORTH OF PAINTING WORK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? UM, AT LEAST. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          ASSUMING IT'S A BIG NUMBER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT'S A BIG, YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF AREA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD. 
          AND THEN ALONG WITH THE T HANGERS COMES SIGNS. 
          SO THESE ARE SMALL PLASTIC SIGNS, BUT IT'S A LOT OF THEM. 
          AGAIN, HUNDREDS OF SIGNS. 
          AND THESE ARE, ARE IMPORTANT OF COURSE FOR WAY FINDING. 
          IF POLICE NEEDS TO RESPOND, IF FIRE NEEDS TO RESPOND, THAT WE HAVE THOSE HANGERS IDENTIFIED SO THAT WHEN SOMEONE REPORTS THE ISSUE, THEY CAN SAY CONCLUSIVELY, IT'S THE R 22 HANGER, OR IT'S THE T FOUR HANGER, OR IT'S THE S SEVEN HANGER. 
          THAT'S WHAT THESE ARE, THESE ARE PLASTIC. 
          THERE BASICALLY DRIED OUT, NON READABLE ANYMORE IN MANY CASES, BROKEN. 
          AND SO WE THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO HAND IN HAND WITH THE PAINT PROJECT, THE SIGNAGE REPLACEMENT PROJECT FOR THE T HANGERS AND OTHER ACTUAL, UH, CONVENTIONAL HANGERS THAT WE HAVE AS WELL. 
          SO SOME OF THE BIGGER HANGERS NEEDS THE SIGNAGE AS WELL. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? YES. 
          NO, JAMIE, WHEN YOU SAID THERE'S A LOT, WHAT'S A LOT? 10, 21,000, $50,000 EACH? UM, I'M GONNA SAY A LITTLE BIT OVER A HUNDRED. 
          WHAT'S THE AVERAGE SIGN LIKE IS ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE HOLDING UP. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SMALL, NOT BIG. 
          AND NOT SMALL. 
          . 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          VISIBLE. 
          BE BE ABLE TO BE VISIBLE FROM AFAR. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S A FIRE, YOU DON'T WANNA REALLY GET CLOSE TO IT, BUT YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO READ IT FROM AFAR. 
          OKAY. 
          JAMIE, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE GROUND LEASES, WHEN THEY COME UPON RENEWAL, WOULD THIS COST BE AMORTIZED INTO THE INCREASE IN THE LEASE COSTS? SO IN A SENSE, IT IS PAYING FOR ITSELF WHEN THE RENEWAL COMES. 
          CORRECT. 
          THOSE ARE ALL FACTORED ITEMS, ITEMS THAT GO INTO THE COSTS. 
          YOU LOOK THE COST OF CLEANING, THE RESTROOMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, THE COST OF ELECTRICITY, THE, ALL OF THESE COSTS. 
          HENCE EVEN IF IT WAS DONE THREE YEARS AGO OR TWO YEARS AGO, BASED ON THE WORK, YES. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE COVERING THE COSTS JUST DOWN THE ROAD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          INCREASES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THE TEA HANGERS IS A LITTLE BIT EASIER. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TREMENDOUS COSTS INCREASE, BUT THOSE T HANGERS ARE ONE YEAR LEASES AT MOST. 
          SO WE CAN ADJUST THEM EASIER. 
          BUT WE ARE, WE ARE ADDRESSING IT. 
          WE ARE ADDRESSING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          WELL, YEAH, JAMIE, ON THESE, UH, SIGNS, SO YOU SAID SOME OF 'EM ARE, A LOT OF 'EM ARE BROKE AND THEY'RE PLASTIC. 
          ARE WE GONNA REPLACE 'EM WITH METAL REPLACE, LIKE A, A, A, A BETTER, MUCH BETTER SIGNAGE PRODUCT? YES. 
          WE, WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE WHAT, UH, MATERIALS TO USE TO, TO ELONGATE THE, THE LIFESPAN OF THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVEN'T, WE, WE, WE WILL HAVE TO SEE RIGHT NOW WE'RE, UM, ESTIMATING $50,000, BUT, UM, WE'LL SEE HOW FAR WE CAN GET WITH THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF MATERIALS AVAILABLE TO US TO BE ABLE TO BALANCE COST AND LONG-TERM USE OF THEM. 
          YEAH, I SURE HOPE WE'RE, UH, REPLACING THESE WITH SOMETHING LONG-TERM. 
          UM, I WOULD BE OPEN TO, TO SPENDING MORE IF, IF THAT'S WHAT WAS NEEDED. 
          UM, YEAH, IT, IT, WITH THE METAL, WITH METAL, THEY LOOK GREAT AND THE METAL ITSELF HOLDS UP, BUT THEN THE PAINT DOESN'T, RIGHT. 
          SO THEN THE PAINTING COMES BACK. 
          THE ISSUE WITH PAINTING COMES BACK WITH THE PLASTIC, THEY LAST LONGER, BUT WITH TIME THEY JUST GET BRITTLE AND THEY BREAK. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S LIKE A UNIF, IT'S GOTTA BE A UNIFORM SIGNAGE PACKAGE. 
          CORRECT. 
          IT HAS TO BE GOOD ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO YES. 
          BE SEEN. 
          UM, IT IS A UNIFORM SIGNAGE PACKAGE OR NO? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT PER SE. 
          YOU WANT THAT? IT WOULD BE GREAT, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ESPECIALLY IF IT'S REQUIRED. 
          ESPECIALLY IF IT'S REQUIRED. 
          BRUCE, JUST A GENERAL QUESTION, JAMIE, AND I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. 
          YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT OUR BUDGET, WHERE WE'RE GONNA END UP 25, 26, 
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RIGHT? THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD OPERATING REVENUES OF 8,000,001 AND OPERATING EXPENSES IS 7 MILLION. 
          WE'RE PROJECTING A LOT DIFFERENT NEXT YEAR, RIGHT? UM, MODEST INCREASE IN REVENUE, I THINK YOU PROJECTED 4.5%. 
          UM, BUT IF WE THROW IN ADDITIONAL DEBT SERVICE, UM, PERSONNEL SERVICES, THAT PICTURE LOOKS A LOT DIFFERENT. 
          RIGHT? SO IT'S 8 MILLION, 2 48 OPERATING INCOME VERSUS EXPENSES OF 8 MILLION, ONE 20 OF A MILLION, 1 37. 
          SO YOU'RE PROJECTING INCREASE IN REVENUE EVERY YEAR ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT. 
          WHERE DOES THAT REVENUE COME FROM AND IS IT LIKELY YOU'RE GONNA HIT IT? SO THE REVENUE COMES FROM FOUR, THREE DIFFERENT SOURCES, PRIMARILY. 
          ONE IS RENT BY FAR, RENT ABOUT 77%. 
          LAST TIME I SAW A FIGURE. 
          THE NEXT ONE IS FROM FUEL FLOWAGE, WHICH HAS BEEN DOING VERY WELL THIS YEAR. 
          UM, THAT'S ABOUT, I BELIEVE, UM, 15, 16%, I BELIEVE. 
          SOME, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. 
          THE REMAINDER ARE FEES. 
          WHAT FEES? CUSTOMS FEES IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE, UH, ONE PROPOSAL THAT I HAVE FOR CUSTOMS RELATED FEES FOR 27 IS TO INCREASE THE INTERNATIONAL TRASH FEE. 
          UH, WE, WE COLLECT, WE'VE COLLECTED LAST YEAR, 3000 POUNDS. 
          IS THAT THE STUFF YOU HAVE TO FREEZE OR BURN OR SOMETHING? YES, WE HAVE TO STERILIZE. 
          YES. 
          IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT, IT'S A LOT OF TRASH AND RIGHT NOW THE COST IS, IS MINIMAL AT $75. 
          WHEN WE COMPARE IT TO OTHER AIRPORTS, WE'RE LOW AND IT'S A LOT OF TRASH THAT WE'RE HAULING. 
          UH, SO FEES, CUSTOMS FEES THROUGH THE FENCE FEES. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF PRIVATE, UM, LAND THAT HAS ACCESS TO THE AIRPORT FOR, UH, PLANES TO USE. 
          PERFECT EXAMPLE IS THE ZA HANGER THAT'S BEING BUILT OVER ON THE WEST SIDE THAT WILL, THAT HANGER WILL PAY A THROUGH THE FENCE FEE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE AIRPORT AND BASICALLY PAY INTO THE AIRPORT LIKE OUR REGULAR TENANTS DO. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE THREE PRIMARY REVENUE SOURCES THAT WE HAVE. 
          WHENEVER WE DO PROJECTS, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE, WE DO GET GRANTS AND OTHER TYPE OF REVENUES, BUT THE ONES THAT WE'RE COUNTING ON, THE ONES THAT ARE THE ONES THAT ARE PRODUCING THE REVENUE THAT WE NEED FOR THE EXPENSES ARE THOSE WELL, I, I'M A BIG FAN OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING OUT AT THE AIRPORT. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WATCHING THE DOLLARS AND CENTS AND YOU'VE GOT THE BUDGET TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE QUESTION THERE. 
          AND THE, AND JUST FOCUSING ON REVENUE AND EXPENSES. 
          YES. 
          AGREED. 
          ONE MORE QUESTION, STEVEN. 
          THE, I THINK THIS WILL BE AN EASY ANSWER. 
          SO IN THE AIRPORT BUDGET THERE, THERE'S A DEBT SERVICE LINE ITEM, RIGHT? BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO A TRANSFER TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND MM-HMM . 
          SO WHY ARE THERE TWO DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS? WHAT GETS TRANSFERRED OUT? GO BACK A LITTLE WAYS. 
          SO, UM, SO THE TRANSFER TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, UH, SO IN 2012 IN THE BOND ELECTION, UH, VOTERS SAID, UH, APPROVED A $7 MILLION BOND ISSUANCE TO, UH, FOR THE AIRPORT TO PURCHASE LAND. 
          THE AIRPORT AT THAT POINT DIDN'T HAVE THE MEANS TO SERVICE THAT DEBT. 
          AH, OKAY. 
          SO THE TOWN HAD SERVICED IT FOR A WHILE. 
          SO NOW THE AIRPORT HAS THE MEANS TO PAY THEIR OWN WAY, SO TO SPEAK. 
          SO THAT'S THEM SERVICING THAT DEBT. 
          THE REGULAR DEBT SERVICE IS THEM PAYING DEBT THAT THEY'VE TAKEN OUT ON THEIR OWN. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, GOOD ONE FOR JAMIE. 
          THANKS, JAMIE. 
          BACK TO MARLON'S QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE TYPES OF SIGNAGE. 
          I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD, WOULDN'T WE BE USING THE SAME SIGNAGE WE USE FOR OUR ROADWAYS STOP SIGNS THAT ARE REFLECTIVE THAT LAST YEARS AND YEARS, UM, EGEN CROSSING SIGNAGE, I MEAN, THOSE LAST YEARS, WHY WOULD WE NOT BE USING ANY OTHER THAN THAT? IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHY WE WOULDN'T USE IT. 
          PERHAPS, UH, CAN WE PARTNER WITH BECKY? WE COULD, UH, LOOK AT WHAT BECKY USES AND PARTNER POTENTIALLY YES. 
          OKAY. 
          WIN-WIN. 
          AGREED. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          AND, UH, THAT CONCLUDES, UM, THE DECISION PACKAGES THAT I HAVE. 
          THANK YOU, JAMIE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          AND, UH, MOVING ON TO THE UTILITY FUND. 
          UH, SO SIMILAR VIEW THAT WE HAD THERE FOR THE AIRPORT FUND. 
          SO, UH, UTILITY FUND RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROJECTING, UH, ABOUT 19,353,000 OPERATING REVENUE, UH, WHICH EXCEEDS THE OPERATING, UH, EXPENSE SLIGHTLY, UH, 19,338,000. 
          SO, SO A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE THERE. 
          UH, THERE ARE, UH, BECKY WILL COME UP IN A MINUTE AND GO OVER SOME, UH, DECISION PACKAGES, UH, ON THE ONETIME BASIS, 182,500 AND ONETIME DECISION PACKAGES. 
          UH, HERE WE DO HAVE A TRANSFER TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND AS WELL. 
          AND THIS 
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IS A SIMILAR THING, UH, THAT WE KIND OF JUST TALKED ABOUT WITH THE AIRPORT, BUT ANYTIME WE HAVE A ROAD RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT'S REPLACING UTILITIES, UH, WE WANT THIS UTILITY FUND TO START, UH, YOU KNOW, PAYING ITS OWN WAY, SO TO SPEAK, ON, ON THOSE, UH, DEBT SERVICE COSTS. 
          UH, AND THEN THIS FUND IS ALSO CASH FUNDING SOME CAPITAL PROJECTS ABOUT 1.2 MILLION. 
          UH, SO OVERALL STARTING THE YEAR, UH, WE GOT ABOUT 10.1 MILLION, UH, IN RESERVES ENDING THE YEAR ABOUT 7.8. 
          AND THAT REALLY IS AN INTENTIONAL DRAW DOWN ON THAT TRANSFER TO DEBT SERVICE. 
          AND I'LL GET INTO THAT, UH, THAT PHASED IN APPROACH, UH, TO THE NEW COMMERCIAL RATES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ON THAT, BUT STILL LEAVES US WITH OVER 40% IN OPERATING RESERVES AT THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          SO IF YOU REMEMBER, WE DID TALK ABOUT, UM, A METER SIZE BASED APPROACH TO COMMERCIAL, UH, BASE CHARGES, UH, BACK AT THE JUNE 23RD MEETING. 
          UM, KIND OF THE, THE DIRECTION THAT WAS GIVEN AT THAT POINT WAS THAT IT SEEMED LIKE COUNCIL FAVORED MOVING TO THAT APPROACH, BUT WANTED TO DO IT OVER A PHASED, UH, PERIOD RATHER THAN ALL IN ONE YEAR. 
          UH, SO WHEN I MENTIONED THAT THIS BUDGET INCLUDES A, UH, INTENTIONAL DRAW DOWN IN THE WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE, THAT'S REALLY TO, UH, DO TWO THINGS. 
          ONE, WE'RE PAYING THE FRANCHISE FEE TO THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH REDUCES THE NEED FOR PROPERTY TAX. 
          AND TWO, WE'RE DRAWING DOWN OUR WORKING CAPITAL RESERVE A LITTLE BIT, UH, TO MAKE THAT TRANSFER OVER TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, UH, WHICH ALSO, UH, POSITIVELY IMPACTS THE DEBT, THE, THE TAX RATE BY, BY NOT NEEDING AS MUCH PROPERTY TAX, UH, TO SERVICE OUR DEBT. 
          SO, SO THOSE TWO COMPONENTS REALLY ALLOW FOR THAT 1 CENT REDUCTION, UH, THAT IS PROPOSED IN THE PROPERTY TAX RATE. 
          UM, SO I, I'LL GET A LITTLE BIT INTO IT AND I HAVE SOME MORE SLIDES THAT GO OVER THE INDIVIDUAL RATE CLASSES, BUT, UH, THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT DOING THIS PHASED APPROACH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REEVALUATE THIS, UH, NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND, AND YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          AND IF, UH, OUR REVENUE IS, UH, HAS DONE BETTER, UM, THEN WE ANTICIPATE OR WE HAVE, UH, OPERATIONAL SAVINGS THAT WE DON'T NEED TO INCREASE THE RATES NEXT YEAR EITHER THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT BUDGETED DRAW DOWN AND FUND BALANCE BECAUSE OUR RESERVES ARE HIGH ENOUGH, UH, THAT WE WOULD EVALUATE THAT, UH, EACH YEAR. 
          SO, UM, WHEN I SHOWED SOME OF THESE CHARTS AT THE JUNE 23RD MEETING, I REALLY ONLY SHOWED THE BASE CHARGE. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE BASE CHARGE FOR EACH OF THESE METER SIZES, IT, IT DID LOOK LIKE A REALLY LARGE INCREASE, BUT THESE ARE ALSO REALLY LARGE METER SIZES. 
          SO MOST OF OUR CUSTOMERS ARE USING A LOT MORE WATER THAN WHAT WAS SHOWN  WITH THE, THAT THAT'S INCLUDED WITH THE BASE CHARGE. 
          UM, SO I SHOWED, UH, YOU KNOW, A TWO INCH UTILITY METER, JUST WHAT WE CHARGE ON THE BASE SIDE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT OUR CUSTOMERS ACTUALLY USE, WE HAVE SOME CUSTOMERS ON THE TWO INCH METER SIZE THAT USE A MILLION GALLONS A MONTH. 
          UM, SO THIS DEPICTS A CUSTOMER THAT USES A HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS PER MONTH. 
          SO OUR CURRENT CHARGE FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS WOULD BE ABOUT $1,134 PER MONTH, UM, INCLUDING THE 4%, UH, VOLUMETRIC RATE INCREASE. 
          AND THE, UH, UH, BASE CHARGE INCREASES THAT WOULD GO UP TO ABOUT $1,265 PER MONTH. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, COMPARED TO OUR COMPARISON CITIES, I THINK WHEN WE SHOWED THIS, UH, CHART JUST ON THE BASE CHARGES, WE WERE MORE TOWARDS THE MIDDLE, UH, FOR EACH OF THESE RATE CLASSES. 
          THIS ONE, UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY, THERE'S CURRENTLY ONLY THREE CITIES THAT HAVE LOWER RATES OR WOULD HAVE A LOWER MONTHLY CHARGE. 
          UM, THAT'S THE SAME AS WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS. 
          UH, SO YOU CAN SEE KIND OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          WHEN I GO TO A THREE INCH METER, WE HAVE CUSTOMERS THAT USE UP TO A MILLION AND A HALF GALLONS WITH A THREE INCH METER. 
          SO THIS IS SHOWING, UH, WHAT THOSE RATES WOULD LOOK LIKE IF, UH, FOR A CUSTOMER THAT USES HALF A MILLION GALLONS A MONTH, WHICH IS FAIRLY TYPICAL OF THIS METER SIZE, SAME TYPE THING. 
          AND YOU'LL NOTICE THE SAME THEME HERE IS THAT, UH, RATHER THAN WHAT I SHOWED ON JUNE 23RD, WE WERE CLOSER TO THE MIDDLE CLOSE, CLOSER TO SIXTH OR SEVENTH. 
          ON THIS, WE ARE FOURTH ON ALL OF THESE SLIDES. 
          UH, WHICH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AS FAR AS WHAT THESE CUSTOMERS ARE ACTUALLY USING, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE AS MUCH OF AN INCREASE BECAUSE WHEN I SHOWED A BASE CHARGE FOR SOME OF THE LARGER METERS, IT LOOKED LIKE A HUNDRED PERCENT INCREASE OR 175% INCREASE. 
          BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CONTEXT OF THEIR OVERALL BILLS, IT'S, IT'S, MOST OF THESE ARE BETWEEN SIX AND 10%, UH, ON A MONTHLY BASIS, UH, FOUR INCH METER. 
          THIS IS WHAT A BILL WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH A MILLION GALLONS OF USAGE. 
          UH, SO OVERALL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A $700 MONTHLY INCREASE ON A BILL THAT'S OVER $11,000 PER 
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MONTH. 
          SO, UH, SAME THING FOR A SIX INCH METER. 
          UH, THIS ONE, UH, YOU CAN SEE SAME THING A MILLION GALLONS A MONTH, AND WE DO HAVE ONE EIGHT INCH METER, UH, THEY USE BETWEEN TWO AND 3 MILLION GALLONS A MONTH. 
          SO FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF VARIANCE IN THERE SINCE WE ONLY HAVE ONE, UH, METER SIZE. 
          BUT, UH, THIS, AGAIN, THE THEME HERE IS, IS THAT WE'RE STILL THE FOURTH LOWEST COST REGARDLESS OF OUR CURRENT RATES VERSUS EVEN THESE NEW PROPOSED RATES, UH, OUT OF ALL OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES. 
          WHY IS RICHARDSON SO HIGH? IS THERE WATER BETTER? IS IT , IS IT BETTER? UH, I, I DON'T THINK SO, BUT THERE, THERE ARE, THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS OF THE RATE. 
          SO WHEN I SHOWED THESE PREVIOUSLY, I WAS ONLY SHOWING THE BASE CHARGES. 
          UH, THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS TO THE RATE. 
          THERE'S THE VOLUME CHARGE. 
          SO RICHARDSON'S VOLUME CHARGES ARE MUCH HIGHER THAN THE OTHER CITIES. 
          UH, I THINK THEY CHARGE EIGHT $78 AND 70, SO CENTS PER 1000 GALLONS OF WATER, AND I THINK ALMOST 11,000 FOR SEWER WE'RE CURRENTLY $4 AND 25 CENTS, WHICH WOULD GO UP TO 4 42 PER THOUSAND OF WATER AND 6 94, WHICH WILL GO UP TO 7 22 ON SEWER. 
          SO, SO THE MORE YOU USE, THE MORE THAT GAP GROWS. 
          STEVEN, IS THIS COMING BACK BEFORE COUNCIL? IT WILL, I MEAN, IT'LL, IT'LL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR DISCUSSION THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT ALSO, UH, FOR ANY RATE CHANGES YOU WOULD'VE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'D COME BACK AT A, UH, VOTING ITEM BEFORE COUNT TO IMPLEMENT. 
          WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY DONE THIS, UM, EACH YEAR OR AS THE METER SIZES AND, AND THE DIFFERENT RATES. 
          WE WOULD DO THIS, IT'S PART OF THE RATE ORDINANCE. 
          WE BROUGHT THIS BACK AFTER YOU'VE ADOPTED THE BUDGET, WE BRING THE, THE TAX RATE ORDINANCE AND THEN, UH, THE UTILITY RATE ORDINANCE. 
          SO IT WOULD JUST BE UTILITY RATE ORDINANCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL LIKELY BRING IT. 
          IT'S THE SAME DAY AS THE BUDGET BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS YES. 
          TIED TO THIS. 
          SO AT THE BUDGET MEETING, YOU'LL ADOPT THE BUDGET, THE TAX RATE, AND UTILITY RATES. 
          YEP. 
          STEVEN, SO BACK FROM THE, WAS IT THE JUNE OR JULY MEETING? WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THOSE RATES AND I THINK CHRIS, YOU BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THE RATE WAS LIKE A HUGE INCREASE. 
          IT WAS LIKE A HUNDRED PERCENT INCREASE AND WE WERE ALL ROLLING OUR EYES GOING, WHOA. 
          AND CHRIS'S POINT WAS AT THAT POINT WERE WE BEING, UM, BUSINESS FRIENDLY TO OUR BUSINESSES? AND AT THAT MOMENT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT SLIDE, IT WAS NOT, IT ALMOST LOOKS AS THOUGH WE'VE SLID TOO FAR NOT INTO THE MIDDLE. 
          ARE WE SET WHERE WE'RE AT? ARE WE GONNA SLIDE CLOSER TO THE MIDDLE, JUST BEING COMPETITIVE FOR THE TOWN FOR, FOR THE PROPOSED RATES ON ALL THOSE METERS? WELL, WE ARE BASED ON THE, BASED ON THE USAGE THAT YOU SEE WITH EACH OF THESE METERS, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S A COMBINATION OF THAT BASE CHARGE PLUS THE ACTUAL VOLUME THAT, THAT A CUSTOMER WOULD USE. 
          WE'RE CLOSER TO DEFINITELY ONE OF THE LOWEST COST PROVIDERS OUT OF OUR COMPARISON. 
          THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION. 
          SHOULD, SHOULD WE NOT HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE LIKE WE JUST DID ABOUT THE GRANTS, SHOULD WE NOT BE DISCUSSING GETTING CLOSER TO FARMER'S BRANCHES NUMBERS AND OR GRAPEVINES NUMBERS VERSUS STAYING ON THE LOWER LOWER THIRD? YEAH, WELL I THINK THAT'S PART OF THAT PHASED APPROACH. 
          AND I MEAN, IF WE'RE ABLE TO THIS YEAR AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO DRAW DOWN THE AVAILABLE ER RESERVES A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE STILL HAVE OVER 40% RESERVES BY EVEN DOING THAT DRAW DOWN. 
          SO, UH, WE'RE JUST USING FUNDS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE TO ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT DEBT SERVICE TRANSFER FOR ONE YEAR WITHOUT IMPACTING THE RATES. 
          AND IF WE EVALUATE THIS NEXT YEAR AND SAY THAT WE NEED TO INCREASE THE RATES, UH, TO, TO CAPTURE ESSENTIALLY THAT 900,000, THEN I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD DO WHEN WE EVALUATE IT IN THE SUBSEQUENT YEAR. 
          BUT I DO THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DRAW DOWN OUR RESERVES BECAUSE WE DON'T, ONE, WE DON'T WANNA CHARGE OUR CUSTOMERS TOO MUCH MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? UH, THAT WE HAVE EXCESS RESERVES AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION IN THIS FUND. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS STEVEN. 
          WHAT I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT TO YOUR POINT WAS INCREASE THIS YEAR RATHER THAN DO IT ALL AT ONCE, THE PHASE APPROACH. 
          SO NEXT YEAR I THINK WE ALL AGREED WE WERE OKAY WITH INCREASING IT AGAIN. 
          SURE, YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THESE, THESE AMOUNTS OF INCREASE WOULD NOT CAPTURE THAT FULL NINE SOMETHING. 
          THIS IS PART OF THE WAY THERE. 
          THAT IS PART OF THE WAY THERE. 
          UM, AND ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT THE UTILITY FUND WHEN WE'RE DOING ANY BUDGET IS OUR BIG THREE MONTHS. 
          WE'RE TALKING TODAY, BUT WE HAVEN'T BILLED FOR OUR SUMMER MONTHS YET. 
          SO IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A REALLY HOT AND DRY SUMMER, WHICH IT PROBABLY WE'RE, WE'RE MOSTLY THERE AND WE HAVEN'T BILLED FOR SOME OF THESE FOR, FOR SOME OF THESE MONTHS YET, THEN OUR REVENUE MAY BE EXCEED OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR THIS YEAR. 
          SO WE MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL 
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MONEY THAT FLOWS INTO OUR RESERVES. 
          SO IF IT MAKES SENSE THE NEXT YEAR, YOU MAY NOT NEED TO INCREASE THE RATES IF WE'VE GENERATED EXCESS REVENUE BASED ON THE WEATHER AND THE USAGE THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          IT DOES. 
          I DO HAVE OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT WHY WE WOULD CHOOSE A RATE WE WOULD CHOOSE VERSUS HOW MUCH REVENUE WE GET FROM IT, AND MAYBE WHERE WE CAN SIT, WHERE THE MARKET BEARS AND WHERE WE WANNA POSITION OURSELVES COMPETITIVELY VERSUS, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR REVENUE IS. 
          'CAUSE IT MAY BE THAT WE CAN LOWER THE TAX RATE MORE BY PUTTING OURSELVES IN THE MIDDLE INSTEAD OF ABSOLUTELY LOWER QUARTILE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE SLIDES I SHOWED AT THE, THE JUNE 23RD MEETING WAS HOW MUCH OUR COMPARISON CITIES ARE USING THEIR UTILITY FUNDS TO SUBSIDIZE SOME OF THEIR GENERAL FUNDS. 
          SO, UH, WE WOULD STILL BE ONE OF THE LOWER ONES, UM, IN, IN THAT REGARD AS WELL. 
          SO CERTAINLY CONSIDERATION. 
          SO WHERE I'M AT WITH IT IS EXACTLY WHERE, WHAT YOU JUST SAID. 
          UM, SO CHRIS, CHRIS, UH, THANKFULLY PICKED UP ON THE, THE, THE MAJOR RATE INCREASE AND WE TALKED ABOUT A PHASED IN APPROACH. 
          UM, I DON'T RECALL IF WE TALKED ABOUT HOW MANY PHASES, WHAT, DO YOU HAVE A JUST A, AN IDEA LIKE WHAT PHASE IS THAT TO YOU? ONE OF THREE, ONE OF FOUR, ONE OF TWO. 
          THIS IS REALLY ONE OF TWO, BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS WANT TO KNOW WHAT OUR SUMMER REVENUE LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE IF WE GENERATE A MILLION DOLLARS MORE REVENUE THAN WE THINK WE'RE GONNA GOING INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT ROLLS INTO NEXT YEAR, AND NOW YOU HAVE MORE RESERVES, UM, THAT YOU ESSENTIALLY DON'T NEED TO GO INTO PHASE TWO IF IT'S ONE OF TWO FULLY. 
          DOES IT, DOES THAT, DOES THAT HELP THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO, WELL, LET ME, LET ME SHARE WHERE I AM. 
          JUST GONNA KIND OF REPEAT WHAT I THINK DARREN WAS SAYING IS, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS, THIS GREEN PROPOSED BE, BE RIGHT IN THERE WITH GRAPEVINE AND UNIVERSITY PARK. 
          UM, UM, AND IF, IF THAT WERE THE CASE, ARE YOU, YOU ROUGHLY, WE TALKING ABOUT A, GOING FROM LIKE A 6% INCREASE TO LIKE A 10% INCREASE. 
          IS THAT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS? WELL, AND IT, AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON THE USAGE. 
          SO SOME OF THESE, FOR INSTANCE, THE, THE TWO INCH CUSTOMER HERE THAT USES A HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS, THEY'RE SEEING ABOUT A 10% INCREASE BECAUSE THEY'RE USING LESS. 
          NOW ON THE, THE LARGER CUSTOMER THAT'S USING 2 MILLION, 2 MILLION GALLONS A MONTH, THE PERCENTAGE IS ESSENTIALLY NOT AS, NOT AS HIGH BECAUSE THAT BASE CHARGE ISN'T AFFECTING THEM AS MUCH. 
          SO, SO THIS LITTLE, THIS LITTLE CHANGE FROM I'M FOCUSED ON CURRENT TO PROPOSED. 
          YEP. 
          THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THIS. 
          HUGE. 
          SO WHAT PERCENTAGE OF A CHANGE ROUGHLY, ARE YOU, YOU THINKING THAT MIGHT BE? UH, THAT IS, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT, I DID THE MATH, EITHER 6.1 OR 7.1%. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT, AND THAT, AND ALSO THAT LOWERS OUR TAX RATE BY ROUGHLY A PENNY. 
          CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          I LIKE, I MEAN, I KINDA LIKE THAT IDEA OF, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, I, I, I'M SURE YOU MENTIONED IT, I, I DIDN'T QUITE PICK UP ON IT. 
          THAT, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A REDUCTION OF A PENNY, UM, BUT A REDUCTION OF ANOTHER PENNY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UH, FOR AN INCREASE, UH, 5% MORE OR SO OF WATER, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. 
          UM, SURE. 
          SOUNDS APPEALING. 
          APPEALING TO ME. 
          WHICH, WHICH METER SIZE, UH, CREATES THE MOST REVENUE? WELL, WE HAVE MORE CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE TWO INCH METERS, SO, SO ALTOGETHER MAYBE THEY'RE 40% OF THE REVENUE OR 50%. 
          AND IF WE CHANGE THE RATES, CAN WE CHANGE IT BY METER SIZE? BECAUSE I'M NOT TOO SURE WE WOULD WANT TO SCOOP UP THAT $2,000 ON THAT ONE CUSTOMER. 
          THAT WOULD MAKE MUCH SENSE. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEY'RE ALL BY METER SIZE, SO WE COULD CHANGE 'EM INDIVIDUALLY. 
          CORRECT. 
          GOOD TO KNOW. 
          AND, AND ONE THING, AND I'LL GO TO THE KIND OF WHAT THE RATES LOOK LIKE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A STAIR STEP APPROACH. 
          YOU KNOW, IT GOES UP A LITTLE BIT BY METER SIZE. 
          SO IF OBVIOUSLY WE WOULDN'T INCREASE THE TWO INCH METER BEYOND WHAT A THREE OR A FOUR INCH METER COST PER MONTH. 
          SO, SO THERE IS A STAIR STEP APPROACH TO, UH, THE MONTHLY COST, UH, PER METER SIZE. 
          WELL, I, I THOUGHT CHRIS', UH, COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST STICKER SHOCK, YOU KNOW, THAT BIG OF A JUMP FOR SOME, FOR A LOT OF BUSINESSES, IT MIGHT NOT MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, BUT FOR SOME IT COULD. 
          AND I WANNA BE CONSCIOUS OF THAT. 
          BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME WE ADOPT THIS BUDGET, WILL YOU HAVE MORE DATA AVAILABLE 
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FOR THE SUMMER USAGE? WE, WE CAN HAVE A FEEL FOR WHERE WE MIGHT, MIGHT BE, OR IS THAT TOO SOON? WE, WE HAVE ONE BILLING, SO WE BILL, UM, THE 20TH OF EACH MONTH. 
          SO I WILL HAVE JULYS, UH, ON AUGUST 20TH. 
          UH, BUT BY THE TIME YOU'VE ADOPTED THE BUDGET, UH, THAT'S ALL THAT I'LL HAVE. 
          SO, UH, SEPTEMBER 20TH, WE'LL BE BILLING FOR AUGUST. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN OCTOBER 20TH WE'LL BE BILLING FOR SEPTEMBER. 
          IS, IS GETTING JULY'S NUMBERS, IS THAT HELPFUL AT ALL OR NOT SO MUCH? IT, IT WILL BE HELPFUL. 
          YEAH. 
          THESE ARE DEFINITELY THE THREE LARGEST MONTHS OF, OF, OF THE YEAR AND MAKE UP, UH, A PRETTY GOOD PORTION OF THE REVENUE, BUT, UH, WE WILL BE ABLE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE, SO WE COULD TAKE THESE COMMENTS NOW AND MAYBE LOOK AT THIS BETWEEN NOW AND, AND THE, AND THE BUDGET ADOPTION AND SEE IF WE WANTED TO MAKE A CHANGE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          MAYOR. 
          YEAH, TO YOUR POINT, I WOULD LOVE TO KIND OF HAVE A LOT OF FOCUS ON JUST A WORK SESSION DEDICATED TO THIS AS WE UNDER BETTER, I BETTER UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE TOTAL PROPERTY TAX, THE TAX RATE IMPLICATION. 
          OKAY. 
          I'D LIKE TO KNOW PER METER SIZE WHAT THE REVENUE IS. 
          THAT WAY WE KNOW WHERE, WHERE IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. 
          AND THEN THE PER THOUSAND GALLONS. 
          IS, IS THAT FIXED ACROSS ALL METER SIZES OR? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU DON'T GET A BETTER RATE IF YOU HAVE A BIGGER METER SIZE? UH, THE ONLY, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS ON THE IRRIGATION METERS. 
          IT IS A HIGHER CHARGE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, ANYTHING THAT HAS WATER AND SEWER SERVICE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, UM, YOUR RESIDENTIAL OR YOUR REGULAR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS THAT ARE USING IT FOR, YOU KNOW, THEIR RESTROOMS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, IT'S THE SAME ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          IN, IN, IN A FOLLOW UP, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE REVENUE PER METER SIZE. 
          AND THEN WHAT TYPES OF BUSINESSES MAYBE TYPICALLY USE THAT METER SIZE? LIKE MAY, MANY OF US MAY NOT KNOW THAT A HOTEL OF A HUNDRED ROOMS, UM, USES A THREE INCH METER SIZE OR A CONDO BUILDING USES A COMMON METER AND THEN THAT GETS DISPERSED TO ALL THE, THE RESIDENTS AND THAT. 
          SO THAT MEANS IT AFFECTS THESE RESIDENTS THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD AFFECT MM-HMM . 
          THAT, THAT KIND OF USER, UH, TYPE PER TYPICAL USER TYPE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IT CAN VARY TOO. 
          SO, SO ONE BUSINESS COULD SAY WE WANT FOUR TWO INCH METERS INSTEAD OF ONE SIX INCH METER. 
          SO, UM, DO YOUR BEST. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE WILL YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, CHRIS? YEAH, JUST MY ONLY COMMENT ON THAT IS I, I LIKE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. 
          I MEAN, WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT DO WE DO IT ALL AT ONCE? BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF IN THIS BUDGET STAYING WHERE WE ARE, GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS YEAR'S SALES AND THEN ADJUSTING IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR. 
          AND IF WE THINK THERE'S ROOM, MAYBE ADJUSTING IT AGAIN. 
          BUT I'M HAPPY WITH WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW FOR THIS YEAR. 
          I'M, I'M TOO, AND I WOULD LOVE TO DO A DEEPER DIVE ON THIS, BUT MY, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE, UH, WE MIGHT WANNA MAKE SOME CHANGES NOW AND STILL HAVE A TWO PHASE, UH, APPROACH. 
          WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE HAPPY WITH WHERE WE'RE NOW WITH RAISING IT LIKE WE ARE NOW WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAW? YEAH, RIGHT. 
          WITH THE GREEN BARS EXACTLY. 
          THE NEXT YEAH, WITH THIS BUDGET, WE, WE ARE INCREASING IT. 
          WE PROBABLY AM TOO. 
          YEAH. 
          BUDGET. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          I'M NOT TRYING TO JACK IT UP MORE THIS YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          KEEP IT COMPETITIVE. 
          UH, ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT. 
          SO I DID, UH, WHEN WE, WHEN WE MET ON THE 23RD, UH, THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE 37. 
          WE, THE, THE TWO INCH AND ABOVE METERS DID HAVE 37,000 GALLONS INCLUDED IN THEIR BASE CHARGE. 
          UH, FOR THIS PROPOSED, UH, ADJUSTMENT. 
          I'VE REDUCED THAT DOWN TO 30,000. 
          AND WE DO HAVE SOME TWO INCH CUSTOMERS THAT DON'T MEET THAT 37, CURRENTLY 37,000 PER MONTH. 
          SO THOSE CUSTOMERS CURRENTLY PAY $428 A MONTH. 
          UH, THIS NEW RATE, UH, MODEL, THEY WOULD PAY $451 A MONTH. 
          WHEN I SHOWED THIS TO YOU ON THE 23RD, THAT WAS GONNA JUMP UP FROM 4 28 TO ABOUT 600. 
          SO SOME OF THESE CUSTOMERS ARE GONNA SEE A MINIMAL INCREASE IN THEIR MONTHLY CHARGE. 
          UM, SO, AND THOSE ARE THE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE USING THE LEAST AMOUNT OF WATER. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS OUR LONG-TERM PLAN. 
          UH, SO YOU CAN SEE THE RED, UH, DOTTED LINE. 
          THAT'S OUR 25% OPERATING RESERVE, UH, REQUIREMENT. 
          UH, THE BLACK LINE IS THE, UH, ACTUAL, UH, RESERVE BALANCE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THAT GOES DOWN BECAUSE WE ARE INTENTIONALLY DRAWING DOWN, UH, TO PAY FOR, UH, DEBT SERVICE AND REDUCE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE. 
          WE'RE ALSO CASH FUNDING SOME, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          UH, THIS INCLUDES, UM, ESTIMATES OF, UH, 4% INCREASE IN WATER AND SEWER RATES THROUGH 2030, UH, THREE POINT A 5% THROUGH 2033, AND THEN ONE POINT A 5% AFTER. 
          UM, IT DOES, UH, INCLUDE A 3.5% INCREASE IN SALARIES, 5% INCREASE IN INSURANCE. 
          UH, WE ESTIMATE 5% 
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INCREASE IN WATER AND WASTEWATER WHOLESALE CHARGES. 
          UH, THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST DRIVER OF, OF NEEDS FOR RATE ADJUSTMENTS. 
          UH, 3% INCREASES IN OUR OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          UH, OVER THIS 10 YEAR PERIOD, THERE IS THREE, 3.7 MILLION IN CASH FUNDED, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING ISSUING, UH, SOME DEBT IN 28, 29 AND 31 IN THIS MODEL, UH, TO MEET, UH, THE NEEDS OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. 
          ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE ON BACK TO, TO BECKY TO GO OVER HER DECISION PACKAGES? THE SLIDE 67. 
          SO YOU DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT, UH, CASH, CASH DRAW DOWN THROUGH 29. 
          UM, AND WHAT ASSUMPTION DOES THIS HAVE ON CONTINUING THAT 900,000? 'CAUSE 'CAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA FULLY BE COVERED BY THE RATE INCREASE UNLESS WE INCREASE IT. 
          IT CONTINUES GOING, YOU KNOW, FORWARD. 
          UM, BUT IT IS PHASED IN AFTER 2028. 
          IT IS PHASED IN THE, THE INCREASE RATE INCREASE IS PHASED IN CORRECT? DUE TO THE COMMERCIAL. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO THERE IS A DRAWDOWN BECAUSE THERE ARE, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, CASH FUNDED PROJECTS OKAY. 
          OUT OF HERE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S REALLY THE, THE DIFFERENCE IN 2028. 
          BUT THE OPERATING REVENUE, UH, AT THAT POINT IS MEETING THE OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          SO IS THAT 5% INCREASE IN WATER WASTEWATER? NO, NOT HOTEL. 
          IT IS THE RATE INCREASE FOR UTILITY OR FOR THE COMMERCIAL INCLUDED IN THE ASSUMPTIONS DOWN BELOW IN THE, THE BULLETS. 
          IS IT LISTED OUT? UH, I DID NOT LIST THAT IN THE BULLET, BUT IT IS, UH, IN 2028 IT IS. 
          SHOULD WE PUT THAT IN THERE? I CAN PUT THAT IN THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          LAST QUICK QUESTION, STEVEN, WITH TREEHOUSE ONE, RIOS TWO, CADENCE, COBAL, ARROW, ALL THESE NEW WATER USERS, DO WE HAVE A PROJECTION OF WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO USAGE WISE IN TERMS OF INCREASE, UH, AS, AS FAR AS USAGE, UH, ON A VOLUMETRIC YEAH. 
          ESTIMATE NOT SPECIFICALLY ON A CUSTOMER BASIS. 
          WE DO AND WE INCORPORATE THAT INTO THIS MODEL. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HEY, STEVEN, ON YOUR, UH, ASSUMPTIONS HERE, YOUR FIRST BULLET 0.4% INCREASE IN WATER AND SEWER RATES THROUGH 2030, IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU'RE USING THAT RATHER THAN THE RATE MODEL? UH, WELL, THE RATE MODEL EXPIRES AFTER NEXT FISCAL YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND REALLY WHEN I MODEL THIS OUT WITH ALL OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND, AND ANYTHING THAT'S IN HERE, UM, ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'M DOING IS MAKING SURE THAT THE REVENUE REQUIREMENT IS MEETING THE OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          SO THAT 4% IS WHAT IS REQUIRED, UH, TO MEET THE OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          AND REALLY THE, AGAIN, THE MAIN DRIVER IS 5% INCREASES IN WATER AND WASTEWATER WHOLESALE COST. 
          IF THOSE DON'T GO UP THAT MUCH, UM, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WOULDN'T NEED TO INCREASE OUR RATES AS MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          DECISION PACKAGES. 
          SO BECKY HAS, UH, TWO, SHE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT, UH, A-C-M-O-M PROGRAM AND THEN A GIS ANALYST. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE BILL COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE KWAY FACILITY ENGINEERING AND DESIGN. 
          SO, BECKY, THANK YOU STEVEN ALRIGHTYY. 
          SO THE FIRST PROJECT I HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS OUR, UH, WATER, UH, I'M SORRY, OUR WASTEWATER CAPACITY MAN MANAGEMENT OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, WHICH I WILL REFER TO AS CMOM. 
          UM, BASICALLY THE TOWN HAS SOME MAINTENANCE AND INSPECTION PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING WITH OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM TO PREVENT ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE, THE TOWN. 
          BUT WE ARE PROPOSING TO HIRE A DESIGN PROFESSIONAL TO COME IN AND DEVELOP AN OVERALL PROGRAM FOR US. 
          UM, REALLY SPECIFICALLY SOMEONE WHO IS A WASTEWATER SPECIALIST. 
          UM, WE WANNA DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM. 
          SO THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM IS BROKEN INTO 12 DIFFERENT BASINS. 
          UM, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE, BUT WASTEWATER FLOWS BY GRAVITY. 
          UM, UNLESS WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIFT IT THROUGH, UM, A LIFT STATION THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN, WHICH IS KWAY. 
          BUT OVERALL, WE WANT TO HAVE THIS PROGRAM TO HELP US ASSESS AND MAINTAIN, UM, OUR EVER-GROWING DETERIORATING SEWER SYSTEM. 
          SO, UM, A LOT OF THIS STUFF WAS CONSTRUCTED. 
          UM, IT'S BEGINNING TO MEET ITS USEFUL LIFE. 
          WE WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO IN AND LOOK AT THAT, WHETHER IT BE, UM, THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT METRICS. 
          AND I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THAT IN GREATER DETAIL. 
          THE OVERALL ASK IS 125,000. 
          UM, WE RECENTLY ATTENDED, UH, TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY RECEIVES, UM, THE, A LARGE PORTION OF OUR WASTEWATER FLOW. 
          THEY CAME AND MET WITH ALL OF THEIR DIFFERENT MEMBER AND CUSTOMER CITIES. 
          UM, STEVEN, MYSELF, SEVERAL OTHER INDIVIDUALS WERE AT THAT MEETING WITH THEM TOGETHER WHERE THEY TALKED 
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ABOUT WHERE THE MAJORITY, UM, OF THE WASTEWATER FLOWS ARE THROUGHOUT THE, THE COMMUNITY AND THE AREA OF WHICH WE ARE SERVED. 
          UM, THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED I AND I, THIS IS PRETTY TECHNICAL, BUT BASICALLY IT'S INFLOW AND INFILTRATION. 
          SO IF WE HAVE ISSUES IN OUR SYSTEM, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, A MANHOLE LID MIGHT BE OFF, OR, UM, THERE MIGHT BE A HOLE IN A PIPE, THERE MIGHT BE AN ILLEGAL CONNECTION, MAYBE, UM, THROUGH BORING, SOMEONE HAS BORED INTO ONE OF OUR LINES AND WE HAVE, UM, WATER COMING INTO OUR LINE. 
          SO BASICALLY THAT EXCESS, UH, I AND I AND IT, IT OCCURS IN THAT COLLECTION SYSTEM, THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM. 
          UM, AND SO THE REASON WHY WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS GRAPH IS BECAUSE THE VOLUME OF WATER THAT'S BEING CONVEYED IS NOT JUST WASTEWATER. 
          IT'S NOT JUST WHEN PEOPLE FLUSH THEIR TOILETS OR RUN THEIR, UH, SINK, THEIR SHOWER, THEIR, UH, DISHWASHER, YOU KNOW, WASHER MACHINE, ET CETERA. 
          IT ALSO IS COMING IN THROUGH ALL OF OUR PIPE SYSTEMS. SO THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE, UM, AREA THAT WE HAVE, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE LINES IN OUR RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY OR IN OUR COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY, WHICH GO TO BIGGER LINES. 
          THE COLLECTION SYSTEM THEN GOES INTO WHAT WE CALL INTERCEPTORS, WHICH ARE THE LARGER LINES. 
          AND THESE INTERCEPTORS ARE WHAT ARE ALL GOING TO TRA, UM, SOME OF WHICH ALSO IS A PART OF FARMER'S BRANCH. 
          UM, BUT WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO SHOW YOU WITH THIS GRAPH IS, IS THAT ADDISON, UM, ACTUALLY HAS A HIGHER INI. 
          SO WHEN IT RAINS OR WHEN THERE'S EXCESS WATERING, UM, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL FLOW THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING INTO OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, ADDISON IS NOT, UH, BELOW THE ACCEPTED AVERAGE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THIS OVERALL INI, WHICH IS, UH, GALLONS, UM, IS BASICALLY LISTED. 
          THE AVERAGE IS LISTED AT 6.82, AND ADDISON IS LISTED AT 8.67. 
          SO WE HAVE INFLOW AND INFILTRATION THAT IS COMING INTO OUR SYSTEM, WHICH ESSENTIALLY MEANS THAT LATER WE ARE PAYING TO TREAT RAINWATER. 
          THAT'S REALLY THE, THE EASIEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT. 
          UM, AND THIS ACTUALLY ALSO MEANS THAT WE ARE ABOVE THE OVERALL AVERAGE FOR ALL TTRA CUSTOMERS. 
          WE ARE IN A, A CERTAIN BASIN, UM, FOR TRA. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE CITIES THAT ARE LISTED HERE, UM, THIS IS WHAT, UH, IT, IT'S A PART OF A GROUP, UM, THAT'S THE PART OF THEIR CENTRAL PLANT SYSTEM. 
          AND SO YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS GRAPH WHERE WE ARE ABOVE THAT AREA. 
          SO WHAT IS A-C-M-O-M YOU MAY ASK YOURSELF. 
          UM, REALLY IT'S A PROGRAM. 
          WHAT WE WANT IS TO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL TO COME IN AND LOOK AT ALL OF THE WATER, OR I'M SORRY, ALL THE WASTEWATER LINES THAT ARE WITHIN OUR SYSTEM. 
          ALL OF THE MANHOLE, ALL OF THE SEWER CLEAN OUTS THAT ARE LOCATED AT THE DIFFERENT AREAS. 
          AND WE WANT THEM TO HELP US PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR US TO HAVE A CLEANING PROGRAM. 
          UM, AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, WE ALREADY HAVE A VAC TRUCK AND ALSO A SEWER CAMERA THAT CAN LOOK AT SOME SEWER LINES. 
          UM, WE ARE DOING THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS, BUT WE WANT TO PUT IT TOGETHER IN A PROGRAMMATIC PERSPECTIVE. 
          THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HELP US WITH FLOW MONITORING TOO. 
          UM, BASICALLY PUTTING FLOW TOTES ARE WHAT THEY'RE CALLED OUT INTO MANHOLES THAT WE'LL ACTUALLY LOOK AT AND SEE IF THE SEWER'S RISING IN THIS AREA AND, AND, AND THE WASTEWATERS ACTUALLY RISING IN THIS AREA. 
          WHAT MIGHT BE THE CAUSE THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD INDICATOR THAT THERE MAY BE A HOLE IN A LINE SOMEWHERE OR AN ISSUE WITH THE LINE SOMEWHERE. 
          IT ALSO HELPS WITH, UH, THE ASSESSMENT AND THE REHAB PROGRAMS. GREASE CONTROL, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE 200 RESIDENT, UH, RESTAURANTS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS TOWN, UM, IS FANTASTIC. 
          BUT GUESS WHAT? THEY ALSO PRODUCE A LOT OF GREASE. 
          UM, AND NOT EVERYONE IS EXCELLENT, UM, ABOUT NOT DUMPING THINGS DOWN THE DRAIN. 
          ALSO, WITH MULTIFAMILY CONDO UNITS, TOWN HOME UNITS, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF EDUCATION THAT CAN GO INTO MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T DUMPING THEIR, UH, GREASE DOWN THE DRAIN. 
          WHAT THAT DOES IS CAUSE BACKUPS, UM, OR CAUSES CLOGS AND PIPES, WHICH ULTIMATELY GOES INTO AN OVERFLOW. 
          SO WE'RE WANTING TO DEVELOP AN OVERFLOW OVERFLOW RESPONSE PLAN, WHICH WILL HELP, UM, IN THOSE SITUATIONS, BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, GO OUT AND ADDRESS THE ISSUE. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO REPORT TO THE TCEQ IF IT IS AN OVERFLOW THAT HAPPENS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. 
          UM, IT ALSO WILL HELP US WITH A CA CAPACITY CERTIFICATION PROGRAM. 
          IT'LL GO THROUGH AND HELP US ASSESS ARE LINES BIG ENOUGH, DO WE NEED TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO OUR LINES? THE GOAL IS TO TAKE CARE OF, UM, THE ASSETS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAD. 
          I ONCE WAS TOLD BY MY DENTIST THAT I ONLY NEEDED TO BRUSH THE TEETH I WANTED TO KEEP. 
          IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE SAME THING WITH THE SEWER PIPES. 
          WE ONLY WANT TO MAINTAIN THE PIPES THAT WE WANT TO KEEP, RIGHT? SO IT THINK ABOUT THIS, WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO IN AND CLEAN, GO IN AND ASSESS, SEE WHAT THEIR CURRENT CONDITION IS. 
          UM, ALSO IT'LL ALLOW FOR THAT PUMP STATION INSPECTION. 
          UM, WE HAVE THAT LIFT STATION LOCATED AT CALLWAY. 
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UM, AND THEN ULTIMATELY ADOPT A INFORMATION MANAGEMENT AND MAPPING PROGRAM. 
          SO AS THEY LOOK AT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT 12 BASINS, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE ASSETS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM. 
          LIKE I MENTIONED, IT'S MANHOLES, PIPES, CLEAN OUTS, UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF LIFT STATION AREAS. 
          UM, AND WHY DO WE DO THIS? BECAUSE WE WANNA PROTECT THE ASSETS WE HAVE. 
          WE WANNA PREVENT THE INI FROM HAPPENING. 
          WE WANNA PERVER PRESERVE THE ASSETS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAND PLAN. 
          REALLY A PART OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IS LOOKING AT WHAT ARE THE ASSETS WE HAVE AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS, AND THEN ULTIMATELY INVEST IN THE REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE MADE. 
          THE REASON WHY THIS FRAMEWORK IS SO IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING SOME OF OUR EXISTING ASSET MANAGEMENT TOOLS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO MAKE REALLY DATA-DRIVEN DECISIONS ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. 
          REALLY, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE MEETING TCEQ UH, GUIDELINES. 
          IT'S ALSO A PART OF OUR OVERALL CONTRACT WITH DALLAS WATER UTILITIES. 
          WE WANNA HELP PROTECT, OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC AND THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, EVERY SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW THAT HAPPENS. 
          SO SEWER COMES OUT OF A MANHOLE OR SEWER COMES OUT OF A PIPE THAT BREAKS. 
          UM, THAT'S ALL SOMETHING THAT'S REPORTED TO TCEQ. 
          UM, AND WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS, UM, I HAVE EXPERIENCED BEFORE, UM, IN MY PAST LIFE, UM, PRE ADDISON, WHERE I'VE HAD A PART OF A DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, A CONSENT DECREE WHERE BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOWS, WE WERE ACTUALLY PUT UNDER AN ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER TO GO OUT AND FIX ALL OF THOSE ISSUES. 
          AND WE DID IT VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE TODAY AS GOING BASIN BY BASIN. 
          IT HELPS SUPPORT THAT LONG-TERM COST SAVING REALLY HELPS US LOOK AT THOSE ASSETS, LOOK AT THE TARGETED APPROACH FROM THE REHABILITATION EFFORTS. 
          UM, THE EMERGENCY REPAIRS TEND TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE PLANNED MAINTENANCE. 
          AND THEN ALSO, UM, ULTIMATELY, WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING IN ON, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE REPORT WE SAW WITH TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY, IS IT WOULD HELP REDUCE THE OVERALL WASTEWATER TREATMENT COSTS, WHICH IN TURN REALLY TALKS A LOT ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE JUST DISCUSSING, WHICH IS OUR RATES. 
          UM, THE TOWNS COST OF TRA AND THE CITY OF DALLAS WOULD BE RE REDUCED. 
          JUST AN EXAMPLE THAT WE KIND OF CAME UP WITH THE TOWN REDUCED AND TRA CALLS IT, UM, RAIN DEDUCTION INI. 
          SO THEY KIND OF PUT A FANCY LITTLE SPIN ON IT. 
          UM, BUT BASICALLY IF WE CAN REDUCE THAT THRESHOLD AND GET BELOW THE AVERAGE FROM 8.7, EVEN JUST TO FIVE, THE TOWN COULD THEORETICALLY, UM, REDUCE UNNECESSARY TREATMENT OF STORMWATER, UM, DURING SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL. 
          RAINFALL BY ABOUT 33%, WHICH WOULD EQUAL ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ANNUALLY. 
          THE OVERALL GOAL ALSO WITH THIS PROGRAM IS TO ALLOW THEM TO SET THIS UP IN A WAY THAT OUR STAFF CAN BE TRAINED USING ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE CCTV, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A VAC TRUCK. 
          WE ALSO HAVE A HYDRO VAC, WHICH IS A VERY LARGE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT ACTUALLY SUCKS THE SEWER OUT OF THE SEWER LINE BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GO THROUGH ON CAMERA. 
          UM, AND I'M SORRY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION AFTER LUNCH. 
          THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN A BETTER BEFORE LUNCH CONVERSATION, BUT I CAN TALK ABOUT IT WHILE I'M MEETING. 
          I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR WAY TOO LONG. 
          UM, BUT REALLY I THINK THAT, UH, OUR GOAL WOULD BE THAT THEY HELP US SET UP THIS PLAN AND PUT THIS PROGRAM TOGETHER THAT OUR TEAM CAN THEN GO OUT AND DO THE ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE REQUESTED. 
          FLOW TOTES, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THAT I WAS MENTIONING. 
          WE WOULD PUT IN THE MANHOLES. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DONE DURING A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME. 
          WE WOULD TRY TO HIT KIND OF THAT SOMETIMES YOU DO IT DURING THE WINTER MONTHS AND SOMETIMES YOU DO IT DURING THE SPRING MONTHS. 
          SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW WE WOULD WORK WITH OUR DESIGN PROFESSIONAL REALLY TO EXECUTE THIS PROGRAM. 
          UM, THE TOWN HASN'T HAD ONE OF THESE, UM, IN A NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          AND SO I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY JUST KIND OF LIKE I MENTIONED WITH THE ROADWAYS EARLIER, IS TO BECOME MORE PROACTIVE AND SET US UP FOR SUCCESS, WHICH ULTIMATELY IS GONNA GIVE GREATER INFORMATION TO GO INTO OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, HELP US MAKE DATA-DRIVEN DECISIONS, WHICH ULTIMATELY THEN HELP MAKE THOSE CAPITAL PLANS, UM, AND THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE. 
          SO THAT'S THE FIRST PROJECT I HAVE. 
          SO YOU TAKE, TAKE, TAKE SOME QUESTIONS, I ASSUME. 
          SURE, YEAH. 
          SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, BECKY. 
          SO IS THIS, I THINK, I THINK YOU HELPED ME UNDERSTAND IT AS YOU WENT THROUGH THIS AND YOU'RE GOOD AT THAT, SEE IF I'VE GOT THIS RIGHT. 
          THIS IS, DOES THIS CREATE MORE OF A PROACTIVE AND PREVENTATIVE SYSTEM TO HAVE IN PLACE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE FOR WHEN IT HITS THE FAN, SO TO SPEAK? ABSOLUTELY. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL. 
          AND THE GOAL WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD START WITH THIS PROGRAMMATIC APPROACH BECAUSE WE HAVE 12 BASINS THAT WE WOULD START WITH IDENTIFYING EXACTLY HOW WE WOULD DO THIS. 
          WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING CALLED SMOKE TESTING, WHERE YOU DO DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS WHERE IT'S VERY DRY AND YOU ACTUALLY INSERT 
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SMOKE INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM AND THEN SMOKE ACTUALLY RISES OUT OF THE AREAS WHERE THERE'S HOLES. 
          SO THERE MIGHT BE A MANHOLE THAT'S MISSING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU SEE SMOKE. 
          SO LOOKING AT IT FROM A PROGRAMMATIC APPROACH, WE WOULD HAVE A BUNCH OF TOOLS, KIND OF LIKE THE PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX IN OUR TOOL BELT THAT WOULD THEN HELP US LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING. 
          AND OUR TEAM ESSENTIALLY WOULD WANT TO TAKE THESE THINGS OVER, WHETHER IT BE AN ANNUAL REPLACEMENT OF SEWER SERVICE LIDS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE MOW OVER THE TOP OF THOSE AND THEN THEY BREAK OFF. 
          AND WE'RE REPLACING THOSE JUST AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          UM, BUT YES, YOU'RE EXACTLY CORRECT. 
          AND ON THE GIS SIDE OF IT, IF I RECALL YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL, I THINK WE, AT THE TIME, WE, WE HIRED SOMEBODY TO DO A WHOLE GIS MAPPING OF ALL OF OUR DRAINS AND SEWERS AND EVERYTHING THROUGHOUT TOWN. 
          IS THAT TRUE? UH, THAT WAS PRE BECKY. 
          UM, YES. 
          BUT WE WEBE, YES, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, A, UH, GIS SYSTEM THAT DOES SHOW US THIS WOULD THEN HELP IDENTIFY AND CLARIFY. 
          SO AS DEVELOPMENTS COME ON AND DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPEN, CHANGES ARE MADE, REPAIRS ARE MADE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY CHANGING AND UPDATING. 
          BUT THIS WILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND LOOK AT THE SYSTEM, EVALUATE THE SYSTEM, AND THEN ALSO MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT'S MISSING FROM THE SYSTEM IS ADDED. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU. 
          THAT, THAT REALLY HELPS ME WITH MY UNDERSTANDING, DAN. 
          THANK YOU, BECKY. 
          SO THE 12 BASINS YOU'RE REFERRING TO, THEY'RE, ARE THEY CONCENTRATED ON ONE SIDE OF TOWN OR THE OTHER SINCE WE'RE SO SMALL? OH, NO SIR. 
          IT'S THE ENTIRE, UH, FOUR SQUARE MILES OF THE TOWN. 
          UM, SO THE BASINS ARE BROKEN UP THE WAY THAT THE CONTOURS OF THE GROUND ARE AND THE WAY THAT THE GRAVITY FLOWS, AND THAT'S JUST HOW OUR SEWER SYSTEM IS BROKEN UP. 
          UM, THERE'S NOT REALLY A RHYME OR REASON, IT'S JUST REALLY HOW YOU CAN, UH, IT'S CALLED A SEWER SHED, HOW THAT ALL CAN GO TO ONE POINT THAT THEN CAN BE DRAINED TO THE NEXT POINT. 
          SO YOU'RE TAKING A BUNCH OF WATER WASTEWATER, PUTTING IT TO ONE POINT, DRAINING IT TO THE NEXT BASIN WITH US PAYING FOR, UM, THE TREATMENT FOR RAINWATER. 
          IS IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LACK OF GREEN SPACE HERE IN MADISON THAT WE'RE MORE CONCRETE JUNGLE, THAT WE HAVE MORE RUNOFF THAN LET'S SAY FARMER'S BRANCH OR ANOTHER CITY? AND THAT'S WHY OUR RATING'S ALL HIGH OR ABOVE AVERAGE? UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD CORRELATE THOSE. 
          I THINK OBVIOUSLY IT HAS, UM, MAYBE AN IMPACT, BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, UM, WE FEEL LIKE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT ARE UNKNOWN AND SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE NOT AWARE OF THAT NEED TO BE PROACTIVELY TAKEN CARE OF. 
          UM, SOME OF THE SEWER LINES IN TOWN AT EACH ONE OF THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES DON'T EVEN HAVE A SANITARY SEWER CLEAN OUT, SO WE CAN'T EVEN GO IN AND ASSESS THOSE. 
          UM, SO I THINK IT'S MORE OF THE UNKNOWN, WHETHER IT BE A CREEK CROSSING OR WHETHER IT BE SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET OUR HANDS ON TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHY THERE IS THAT ISSUE. 
          UM, ALL OF THE, THE RAINFALL BECAUSE OF THE CONCRETE IS REALLY JUST, UM, GOING AT A FASTER RATE INSTEAD OF SOAKING INTO THE GROUND. 
          BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY DIRECTLY CORRELATED TO THE RAINFALL THAT'S GOING INTO THE SEWER LINES BECAUSE ALL THE RAINFALL GOING ACROSS THE GROUND IS GOING INTO THE STORM SEWER SYSTEM, NOT THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. 
          OKAY, THAT HELPS EXPLAIN THAT. 
          UM, LAST QUESTION FOR ME. 
          UM, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SEWER, UM, IN THE BACKUP OF THE, THE ODOR, LET'S CALL IT THE SMELL. 
          SO IF I'M IN A RESTAURANT AND I HAPPEN TO USE A RESTROOM OR HAPPEN TO BE IN THEIR KITCHEN FOR THAT MATTER AND IT'S, THERE'S A STENCH, IS THAT LIKELY BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DUMPING GREASE TO CLOG THE DRAIN AND THAT'S THE RESULT OF IT? OR IS IT SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT? THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT COULD BE CAUSING THAT. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S A P TRAP IN A SYSTEM THAT'S NOT, UM, HAS, DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH WATER IN IT. 
          THERE COULD BE ISSUES WITH THEIR GREASE TRAP. 
          AND WE WORK WITH LESLIE'S TEAM ON THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS. 
          UM, THAT'S WHERE A SMOKE TESTING WOULD COME IN, WHERE YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE WHERE MAYBE THERE'S A MISCONNECTION OR, OR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT CONNECTED CORRECTLY. 
          UM, YOU WOULD SEE THAT THROUGH DOING A SMOKE TESTING. 
          SO, UM, IT'S REALLY SITUATIONAL, BUT IT, THAT COULD BE THE COST. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO SUMMER INTERNSHIPS FOR CHRIS AND I TO GO DO SILVER CLEANING, NOTHING LIKE THAT AT ALL. 
          YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. 
          IT IS MY FAVORITE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WE HAVE AND I'D BE GLAD TO TAKE IN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NO, ABOUT THAT. 
          THERE'S, UH, SO SORT OF TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, IIII CAN READ UP HERE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, REDUCE OVERFLOWS AND REDUCE EYE AND EYE. 
          DOES IT ALSO HELP WITH UNDERSTANDING THE QUALITY OF THE SYSTEM WHERE IT IS, WHAT HAS TO BE REPLACED? UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          BECAUSE I LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED, WE HAD A SURPRISE ON ADDISON ROAD, RIGHT A MONTH AGO. 
          I SAW THOSE PICTURES. 
          IT LOOKED LIKE THE THING, WHATEVER THAT WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS STORM WATER OR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT IT HAD BEEN COMPLETELY DETERIORATED. 
          WELL, SOMETHING LIKE THIS HELP SOLVE WHAT HAPPENED ON ADDISON ROAD. 
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ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO THAT WAS A STORM SEWER LINE THAT COLLAPSED, UM, WHICH IS NOT SEWER, BUT A SIMILAR SITUATION COULD HAPPEN AT ANY TIME ON A SANITARY SEWER LINE. 
          AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL HELP US WITH KNOWING. 
          BASICALLY IT'S GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUR EYES ON OUR EXISTING ASSETS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR CONDITION IS. 
          AND THEN WE RANK 'EM BASED ON, YOU KNOW, POOR, FAIR, VERY POOR. 
          AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THAT DATA ALONG WITH OUR WORK ORDER SYSTEM ALONG WITH THE CAMERA THAT ACTUALLY PUTS, GOES IN THE SEWER PIPE AND WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE SEWER LINE. 
          IT'D SHOW YOU IF SOMEBODY BORED THROUGH THE LINE, WHICH HAPPENS A LOT WITH FIBER OR TELECOM, UM, IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU THAT THAT'S A POINT REPAIR THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE. 
          SO IT'S GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET INSIDE THE PIPE AND BE ABLE TO TELL IT'S PVC, IT'S CONCRETE AND IT'S ERODING, IT'S WHATEVER MATERIAL IT MIGHT BE. 
          SAME THING WITH THE MANHOLE. 
          YOU WOULD BE DOING AN ASSESSMENT NOT ONLY OF THE PIPE, BUT ALSO OF THE MANHOLE, CLEAN OUTS, ET CETERA. 
          SO YOUR ENTIRE SEWER SYSTEM TOGETHER. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO THIS, UM, THIS I I I'M ON A COUPLE SLIDES AHEAD. 
          SORRY. 
          SO THIS ONE, UH, WHAT'S THE COST OF THIS? THE FIRST PART OF THIS? UM, SO THE ESTIMATE TO DO THIS OVERALL HIRE THIS INDIVIDUAL OR TEAM TO COME IN AND DO THIS ASSESSMENT, WE, UM, ESTIMATE IT TO BE $125,000, WHICH WOULD ALSO ALLOW US TO DO THE, UH, FLOW MONITORING OF OUR SYSTEM TOO. 
          SO THEY'LL BE SETTING UP THE PROGRAM AND THEY'RE GONNA BE TRAINING OUR STAFF SO THAT WE CAN THEN GO OUT AND TAKE THIS PROGRAM AND ANNUALLY DO THIS OURSELVES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE DON'T DO THIS NOW, WE DO IT VERY MINIMALLY. 
          SO WE ARE CAMERAING OUR OWN LINES. 
          WE ARE GOING OUT AND CLEANING OUR OWN SEWERS. 
          WE ARE LINING OUR MANHOLES, BUT IT IS BASED ON INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE TO DATE. 
          IT'S NEVER BEEN, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, LOOKED AT IT AS ALL 12 BASINS AND SETTING UP A PROGRAM THAT SAYS EVERY TWO YEARS YOU SHOULD DO X EVERY FIVE YEARS YOU SHOULD DO THIS. 
          AND THE OTHER THING I SHOULD MENTION IS IT'S GOING TO PUT US IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE TCEQ REQUIREMENTS, UM, IN ORDER FOR US TO MEET THE REGULATIONS THAT NEED TO BE MET BASED ON OUR OVERALL, UM, REQUIREMENTS TO OPERATE A SEWER SYSTEM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND THEN A PROGRAM TO GO FORWARD. 
          SO THE ASSESSMENT'S GONNA FIND ALL THE PROBLEMS AND IT'S GONNA INVENTORY ALL THE STUFF WE HAVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN WE'LL KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THAT. 
          DO WE, UH, AND, AND AS WE FIX EVERYTHING, IT COULD SAVE US A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IN NOT TREATING WATER THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE TREATED BECAUSE THAT WATER GOT IN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE OF ALL THESE HOLES AND OTHER, UH, DEFECTS. 
          I GUESS THERE'S NO WAY TO ANTICIPATE WHAT KIND OF COSTS THE REPAIRS WOULD BE UNTIL YOU HAVE THE ASSESSMENT. 
          SO, UM, I COULD DO A ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE JUST BASED ON MATERIAL AND PIPE TYPE AND WORK ORDERS, UM, OF REPAIRS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AND ESTIMATE. 
          AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE A WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN. 
          WE COULD DO AN ESTIMATE OF THIS INTERCEPTOR, WHICH COULD BE $25 MILLION, IS GONNA NEED TO BE REPLACED IN THREE YEARS IF WE DID THIS MINIMAL AMOUNT OF MAINTENANCE AND THESE SPOT REPAIRS THAT'S GOING TO EXPAND THE LI LONGEVITY OF THE PIPE FIVE YEARS OR 10 YEARS. 
          SO BASICALLY THE GOAL WITH THIS TYPE OF A PROGRAM IS TO GET YOUR EYES AND EARS ON YOUR ASSETS AND EXPAND THE USEFUL LIFE OF YOUR ASSET. 
          ALSO NOT BE CAUGHT BY SURPRISE FOR AN EMERGENCY THAT MIGHT HAPPEN, WHICH THEN ALLOWS DEFERRED, UM, CAPITAL PROJECTS ESSENTIALLY, WHICH ARE MUCH LARGER IN SCALE THAN AN A PROGRAM LIKE THIS TO DO THE ASSESSMENT. 
          SO I KNOW WE HAVE SOME REPLACEMENT FUNDS, UM, ALREADY SET UP FOR OTHER THINGS. 
          DO WE HAVE A REPLACEMENT FUND OR REPAIR FUND SET UP FOR THIS GOING FORWARD OR DO WE NOT? SO WE WOULD TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND NEXT YEAR COME BACK WITH TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO TO INCREASE OUR REPLACEMENT FUND. 
          UM, WE HAVE CURRENT CAPITAL PROGRAM PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY BEING DONE. 
          A LOT OF THAT'S BEING DONE WITH A LOT OF THE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS YOU CURRENTLY SEE. 
          UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY AS THE EMERGENCIES COME UP, WE HAVE FUNDING SET ASIDE TO DO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          BUT I THINK THIS WOULD BE THE, A PHASED APPROACH. 
          THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP TO THEN SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE REALLY HAVE AN ISSUE HERE. 
          WE NEED TO COME BACK AND MAKE THIS REPAIR AND IT'S X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS. 
          SOMETIMES THOSE REPAIRS ARE THINGS YOU CAN'T WAIT FOR. 
          OTHER TIMES THEY'RE, WE CAN DO THIS IN TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS, ET CETERA. 
          IT SEEMED LIKE THE UTILITY, UH, PLAN THAT WE HAD FOR THE INCREASE ON THE RATES TO BUILD UP SOME OF OUR RESERVES THERE, TALK ABOUT SOME OF THIS STUFF AS FAR AS THE GOING FORWARD PAYMENT, UH, OF THESE REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS. 
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IS THAT, AM I WELL, THERE IS A DIRECT CORRELATION BECAUSE YOUR RATES ARE INCREASING BECAUSE IT'S COSTING US MORE TO TREAT THE WASTEWATER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A PROGRAM LIKE THIS THAT ALLOWS US TO DO THE OVERALL ASSESSMENT TO HELP US BE PREVENTING INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE REPAIR OF THIS ISSUE. 
          YOU, YOU ANTICIPATE THERE'LL BE MORE COST THAT WE'LL HAVE TO BEAR BEYOND THOSE UTILITY RATE INCREASES THAT WE PROGRAM? WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT YET. 
          WE WOULD BE DOING THIS OVERALL ASSESSMENT. 
          THE 125,000 IS JUST TO DO THIS ASSESSMENT, SET UP THIS PROGRAM. 
          I EXPECT FROM THE DATA THAT'S COLLECTED THAT THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL CAPITAL PROGRAM PROJECTS THAT COME OUT OF THAT. 
          AND I DON'T HAVE THAT YET UNTIL WE FINISH THIS. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS OKAY, GOOD. 
          THANKS. 
          YEAH. 
          KNOWING WE JUST DID MIDWAY ROAD KNOWING MONTFORT'S COMING, QUOS COMING. 
          YOU'RE ON KELLER. 
          ARE WE CERTAINLY SHRINKING THE SCOPE OF POTENTIAL PROBLEMS THAT ARE HIDDEN UNDER THE GROUND? IT, IT IS DEFINITELY BENEFITING US TO REPLACE A LOT OF AGING INFRASTRUCTURE BY DOING THESE LARGER ROADWAY PROJECTS. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE. 
          SO THE NEXT PROJECT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS ACTUALLY A GIS ANALYST. 
          UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A GIS ANALYST TO COME IN. 
          THIS IS A ONE TIME FEE. 
          UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS JUST FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, IT'S GONNA BE SPLIT BETWEEN STORMWATER AND UTILITY FUNDS, APPROXIMATELY 115,000. 
          AND THIS PERSON WOULD COME IN AND SUPPORT THE IMPLEMENTATION, MAINTENANCE, AND EXPANSION OF OUR OVERALL GIS ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. 
          UM, THIS WOULD BE FOR THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO WATER, SEWER, DRAINAGE, UM, ANY OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE NETWORKS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING THIS PERSON WOULD BE ABLE TO COME IN AND ASSIST OUR TEAM. 
          WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR, UM, OUR TEAM'S OUT IN THE FIELD ALL THE TIME, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY PUTTING IN WORK ORDERS, CONSTANTLY PUTTING IN SERVICE REQUESTS, UM, THAT SHOW THIS VALVE MAY NOT BE EXACTLY WHERE IT'S SHOWN. 
          IT MAY BE ANOTHER 50 FEET. 
          WELL, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT IS. 
          ANYTIME WE HAVE A WATER MAIN BREAK, SIMILARLY FROM A WASTEWATER SYSTEM, I KNOW THAT PROBABLY Y'ALL ARE NOT GETTING THE SAME 2:00 AM CALLS I'M GETTING. 
          IF THERE IS A WASTEWATER ISSUE, THEY LOOK AT THAT GIS SYSTEM AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT FROM A MAPPING PERSPECTIVE AND WE WANNA BRING THIS PERSON IN WHO CAN REALLY HELP OUR TEAM SET THIS GIS IN THE DIRECTION WHERE, UM, WE ARE ELEVATING IT KIND OF TO THAT NEXT LEVEL. 
          UM, WE CURRENTLY ARE HAVE A GREAT, UH, SUPPORT GROUP THAT'S HELPING US, BUT WE WANT TO TAKE IT REALLY TO THAT NEXT LEVEL AND HAVE THAT PERSON ACTUALLY BE HOUSED IN OUR DEPARTMENT. 
          A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL FIND WITH FIELD STAFF, THEY'RE NOT AS COMFORTABLE WITH GOING AND HAVING THAT CONVERSATION UNLESS THAT PERSON'S SITTING DIRECTLY THERE WITH THEM. 
          THEY CAN COME TALK TO THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY. 
          THE OTHER THING IS, IS AS ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE COMING THROUGH, OR AS THE CAPITAL AND BOND PROJECTS YOU JUST MENTIONED, UM, ARE COMING THROUGH, WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR, UM, OVERALL SYSTEM IS BEING UPDATED CONTINUOUSLY. 
          UM, IT IS REALLY KIND OF THE PLAYBOOK OF WHICH WE MAINTAIN ALL OF OUR UTILITIES. 
          AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THIS INDIVIDUAL COME IN FOR A YEAR, GET US GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          WE HAVE ALL, UH, ACTUALLY, UH, PURCHASED GPS UNITS ALSO THAT OUR TEAM IS CURRENTLY GOING OUT AND DOING ALL OF THE GP SING OF WATER VALVES, MANHOLES, WATER METERS, AND PUTTING ALL THIS DATA TOGETHER REALLY TO WORK TO HAVE OUR, UH, OVERALL GIS SYSTEM REALLY KIND OF JUST MOVE TO THE NEXT LEVEL. 
          AND REALLY IT'S JUST THIS INDIVIDUAL BEING A DEDICATED STAFF MEMBER TO THE TEAM. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? SO I DON'T KNOW IF I MISSED IT, BUT I DIDN'T SEE THIS IN THE BUDGET. 
          DID, IS THIS, IS THIS A LIKE A ONE YEAR CONTRACT? YES SIR. 
          IS THIS A PERMANENT EMPLOYEE? JUST ONE YEAR CONTRACT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S NOT WHY, THAT'S WHY IT DIDN'T HIT THE FTE LIST. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS IT FULL-TIME? YES SIR. 
          WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THE INDIVIDUAL BEING FULL-TIME. 
          YOU SEE THIS ROLLING INTO A FULL-TIME POSITION ONGOING. 
          I THINK WE'RE GONNA TAKE, GO AHEAD. 
          NO, AND I, IT'LL ONLY BE GOOD FOR ME TO COME AND TALK ABOUT KINDA HOW THIS ROLLS IN. 
          'CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THE GIS STAFF. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE GENERAL SIDE ON THE UTILITY SIDE, THEY'RE DOING THIS. 
          SO REALLY THIS IS JUST TO GET US TO KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE. 
          BUT AMI YOU'LL SPEAK TO THAT REALLY WELL. 
          I THINK ABOUT THE AIRPORT GIS ALSO AND I, SO YEAH, I THINK ABOUT CONSOLIDATION THOUGHTS, I THINK HAMI CAN SPEAK TO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          HI, HAMID. 
          UR, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INTERNAL SERVICES. 
          UH, I WANNA DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THIS GS POSITION AND AIRPORT. 
          UH, JUST GOING BACK, PROBABLY MAYOR COULD, UH, REMEMBER WHEN IN, BACK IN 2015, WE STARTED THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE IRIS. 
          WE DID NOT INCLUDE IT AND AIRPORT AS PART OF THAT IMPLEMENTATION BECAUSE OF COST ASSOCIATED, ET CETERA. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WHEN, UH, DAVID CAME ON BOARD, I RECOMMENDED TO HAVE 
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A GIS CONTRACT, UH, FOR THE AIRPORT THAT WE COULD START COLLECTING THEIR ASSET BECAUSE THEY HAVE MULTIPLE THOUSAND OF ASSETS THAT IT WAS IN THEIR SYSTEM. 
          AND, UH, DAVID, AT THAT POINT, IT DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE, BUT WE SAID, LET US SHOULD JUST DO A GAP ANALYSIS AND DO IT FOR A YEAR OR SO AND THEN WE COULD COME BACK TO YOU AND JUSTIFY IT FOR A FULL TIME POSITION. 
          AND IT'S BEEN PROVEN THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT POSITION FOR, FOR THE AIRPORT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT AND SUPPORT IT AND CONSTANTLY REVISIT THE ASSET AND LOOK AT THE CONDITION AND PUT IT BACK INTO THE GIS SYSTEM, WHICH IS FEEDING THE IRIS. 
          ALSO, WE HIRE TWO, UH, GIS, UH, MANAGER AND UH, TECHNICIAN IN LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS THAT, UH, IT COMES OUT OF THE UTILITY FUND AND THE AIRPORT FRONT. 
          BUT, UH, IT, IT, IT GOT TO THE POINT THAT THE GIS AND THE IRIS GOT SO HUGE, IT BECOMES LIKE A OCTOPUS RIGHT NOW. 
          THAT SYSTEM HAS MORE THAN 70,000 PIECE OF ASSETS, WHICH IS MANAGED, UH, UH, INTEGRATION WITH THE ERP SYSTEM UTILITY BILL, UH, A FIXED ASSET PERMITT INSPECTION AIRPORT, UH, ALL OF THAT. 
          AND THESE TWO PERSON, IT'S REALLY CANNOT, UH, SPEND MORE TIME ON JUST THE, UH, ASSET THAT IS RELATED TO THE UTILITY BILLING AND, UH, STORM WATER. 
          AND AS BECKY MENTIONED, WHEN WE START THIS PROCESS, WE GOT THE INFORMATION FROM THE, UH, UH, DEPARTMENT THAT IT CAME FROM, WHETHER IT WAS A PIECE OF PAPER THAT THEY HAD OR IT WAS THE BLUEPRINT THEY HAD, OR IT WAS THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT CAME FROM THE STAFF. 
          AND WE LOAD THAT INFORMATION INTO THE SYSTEM ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          IT WILL BE MADE IT A HABIT THAT WE VISIT WITH EACH DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THE, I SAYS TO NEED TO BE REPLACED IS ACTUALLY NEED TO BE REPLACED. 
          BUT WITH THE UTILITY BUILDING, WHICH WE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE WATER LEVEL, WE HAVE STORM WATER, SEWER LEVEL, IT GET TO THE POINT THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY EIGHT HOURS A DAY WITH THE TWO LUCKY GGPS DEVICE TO GO VISUALLY CONFIRM AND VERIFY THE CONDITION OF THE SYSTEM. 
          AND THAT'S WHY THAT WE, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE REALLY BENEFICIAL TO GET THE LEVEL OF COMFORT TO BECKY IT THAT COULD COME BACK TO DAVID AND THE COUNCIL SAY, THIS SYSTEM NEED TO BE REPLACED BECAUSE SHE ALREADY ALREADY VERIFIED AT THAT POINT. 
          UM, THIS POINT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF CRUCIAL TO HAVE THAT INDIVIDUAL TO HELP US TO REALLY RECONFIRM WHAT IS IN THE SYSTEM. 
          THAT, THAT WAS A SHORT EXPLANATION OF THE WHOLE SYSTEM. 
          , YES. 
           OTHER QUESTIONS? I I THAT CHRIS, OKAY. 
          SO I GUESS MY ONE, ONE QUESTION, AND DARREN KIND OF ALLUDED TO THIS, AND I, AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT SOMEBODY DOING GIS ANALYSIS OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS DIFFERENT THAN THE AIRPORT AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL GIS ANALYST. 
          BUT IS THERE ANY OVERLAP? WERE ANY OF THESE POSITION COULD BE COMBINED FOR EFFICIENCIES OR ANYTHING? OR DO THEY NEED TO BE, DOES THIS PERSON NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON THIS? THEN THE OTHER HALF OF THAT QUESTION IS WITH THE GIS STAFF THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, IS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT ARE, ARE THEY, ARE THEY COMPLETELY BOOKED EVERY DAY AND THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TAKE ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS? YEAH, THEY ARE MADE ANSWER TO THE SECOND QUESTION. 
          THESE TWO PEOPLE, THEY'RE MANAGING AND SUPPORTING THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION EVEN THOUGH IT'S FUNDED THROUGH THE UTILITY. 
          BUT WE MANAGE PUBLIC SAFETY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, HR, CITY MANAGER'S, OFFICE, EVERYBODY, ANYTHING RELATED TO THE IRS AND GIS, IT GOES TO THOSE TWO PEOPLE AT THIS POINT. 
          IT REALLY IS NOT ENOUGH, UH, TIME OF THE DAY FOR THEM TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS. 
          THIS IS, IT'S KIND OF A, LIKE A FOOD SOLDIER. 
          YOU HAVE TO GET OUT THERE IN THE MORNING WITH THE GPI SYSTEM, GO LOOK AT EACH MANHOLE METER, LOOK AT THE CONDITION OF THE, UH, EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE, AND THEN BRING IT BACK IN AND, AND KIND OF TABULATE THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S WHY IT IS KIND OF SEPARATE FROM THE AIRPORT. 
          AIRPORT. 
          THEY HAVE ENOUGH ASSETS TO BE MANAGED AND MONITORED ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          THEY HAVE ALL OF THOSE HANGERS, THEY HAVE LIGHTS, THEY HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE, THEY HAVE A LOT OF STUFF THAT NEED TO BE MANAGED. 
          THAT'S WHY WE DON'T WANT TO INTERMIX THOSE TWO. 
          YEAH, NO, TH AND THEN THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. 
          AND THEN ONE, AND ONE THING I KNOW WITH YOU, BECAUSE YOU'RE PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST ANALYTICAL PEOPLE I KNOW THAT, I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THIS, ALL OF THESE THINGS. 
          SO THEN, AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT AS A COMPLIMENT FOR ME. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          AND, UH, BUT NO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU ALL. 
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OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHTY. 
          I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO BILL NOW, AND LESLIE AND I ARE HERE FOR QUESTIONS TO SUPPORT HIM. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, BILL HOLLY, GENERAL SERVICES. 
          SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS ONE, JUST, I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH DIFFERENT SITES AND SOME OF THE OPERATIONS THAT WE DO IN TOWN, BUT I THINK THAT'LL HELP LEAD INTO THIS. 
          SO THE TOWN OWNS TWO ACRES OFF OF KWAY CIRCLE, WHICH IS WEST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT OFF MIDWAY. 
          IT'S A LARGELY UNDEVELOPED SITE. 
          IT DOES HAVE THE LIFT STATION THAT BECKY TALKED ABOUT, AND WE DO USE IT TO STORE A LITTLE BIT OF EQUIPMENT, BUT IT'S MOSTLY JUST A SECURITY FENCE, THE DRIVEWAY, SOME GRAVEL, AND JUST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING OVER THERE WITH THAT LAND ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          UH, CURRENTLY, UH, RENTS, UH, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET? 1200, 1600 SQUARE FEET, UH, FOR THEIR, WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE ROOM IN ANY OF OUR OTHER FACILITIES. 
          IT'S KIND OF A UNIQUE SERVICE. 
          AND, UM, WE'RE RENTING TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $40,000 A YEAR ON THAT. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IS THERE SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN COULD DO TO BRING THAT IN-HOUSE AND, AND PROVIDE A FACILITY THAT WE OWN. 
          AND BECKY ALSO TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT SHE USES, THESE FACTOR TRUCKS, THE STREET SWEEPER AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO TO KEEP THE, UH, WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS UP AND RUNNING. 
          THOSE ARE VERY COMPLICATED CURRENTLY. 
          THEY, UH, THEY LIVE OUTSIDE IN THE ELEMENTS WHEN IT GETS COLD. 
          WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF PROCESSES TO EMPTY ALL THE WATER OUT, PUT ANTIFREEZE IN THERE. 
          AND DESPITE THOSE EFFORTS, SOMETIMES WE'VE STILL HAD SOME, UH, DAMAGE DUE TO WEATHER. 
          UH, THE, THE UV IMPACTS THOSE GASKETS AND, AND WHATNOT ON THOSE VEHICLES. 
          SO THE, THE LIFE IS SHORTER. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEWHERE WE COULD STORE THOSE AND PROTECT THOSE FROM THE ELEMENTS. 
          AND THEN WE'RE ALSO, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN UP TO THE SERVICE CENTER AND DRIVEN AROUND THE BACK, YOU'LL SEE IT'S, IT'S MAXED OUT. 
          AND IF THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE SOME OF THESE TO A DIFFERENT SITE, THEN THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE REMAINING PERSONNEL AT THAT SITE. 
          SO IT'S A, IT'S KIND OF A MULTI-PHASE, UH, ITEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. 
          SO THIS IS THE KWAY SITE. 
          UH, THE PERIMETERS, THE BOUNDARIES IS KIND OF IN THE BACKGROUND IN GRAY, BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS, IS ASK FOR FUNDING FOR THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN FOR SOME BUILDINGS AT THAT SITE THAT WOULD HELP SOLVE THE ANIMAL SERVICES ISSUE. 
          AND THEN ALSO ASSIST PUBLIC WORKS WITH THEIR STORAGE AND, UM, PROVIDE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, USE THAT SITE AND FREE UP SPACE OVER AT THE SERVICE CENTER. 
          SO A SMALL PORTION OF THAT, LESS THAN 2000 SQUARE FEET REFLECTED IN YELLOW WOULD BE ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          THE BLUE BOX IS THE PROTECTED STORAGE WHERE BECKY WOULD BE ABLE TO STORE, UH, SIX TO EIGHT OF HER VEHICLES THAT NEED TO BE OUT OF THE ELEMENTS AND PROTECTED FROM FREEZING. 
          AND THEN THE GREEN BOX IS MATERIAL STORAGE. 
          SO WE STORE A LOT OF MATERIALS. 
          UH, I THINK WE HAD AN INCIDENT WITH THIS LAST ICE STORM WHERE IT, IT, IT RAINED FIRST AND THEN IT FROZE. 
          SO A LOT OF THE MATERIALS THAT WERE SPREAD INTENDED TO BE SPREAD ON THE ROADS ACTUALLY JUST BECAME AN ICE BALL BECAUSE THEY WERE OUT IN THE ELEMENTS. 
          THEY WEREN'T PROTECTED, SO THEY WEREN'T READILY AVAILABLE TO BE USED. 
          AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT, THAT, UH, PUBLIC WORKS STORES NEED TO BE OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE SUN BECAUSE THE UV DEGRADES THE, THE, THE MATERIALS. 
          THIS IS THE, THE FIRST TWO PICTURES ARE OF THE CURRENT KELWAY SITE. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S, IT'S LARGELY JUST, JUST A DIRT SITE. 
          AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS STORING OUTSIDE. 
          THOSE LOOK LIKE THE FIRE HYDRANTS AND SOME OF THE PIPES THAT, THAT THEY USE FOR WATER. 
          THE, UM, OTHER PICTURES THAT YOU SEE ARE SOME OF THE TRUCKS AND SOME OF THE, THE COMPLICATED, UH, MECHANISMS THAT THEY HAVE THAT NEED TO BE PROTECTED FROM THE, THE WEATHER AND THE ELEMENTS, PARTICULARLY THE FREEZING. 
          SO BECKY HAS PROVIDED SOME COSTS OF, OF AVERAGE LOSS TO, UH, MATERIALS AND DAMAGE TO EQUIPMENT THAT THAT SITS OUT IN THE ELEMENTS. 
          SO OVER TIME, OBVIOUSLY THESE, THIS WILL, UH, ELIMINATE THESE AND GO TOWARDS, UM, BENEFITING THE TOWN BY INVESTING IN THE BUILDINGS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THESE ARE JUST SOME SCHEMATICS PROPOSED OF WHAT THOSE IMAGES MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 
          NOTHING, NOTHING FANCY. 
          JUST A, A, A METAL, UH, AN OPEN SHED FOR THE MATERIAL STORAGE AND AN ENCLOSED FACILITY FOR THE VEHICLE STORAGE. 
          AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          SO WE'LL JUMP TO WHAT, WHERE THEY ARE NOW IN A, UH, RENTED SPACE. 
          AND THEN THIS IS A SCHEMATIC OF WHAT THEIR SERVICES, UH, THEIR OFFICE AREA MAY LOOK LIKE. 
          SO IT'D BE OFFICES FOR THEIR THREE CURRENT STAFF. 
          IT WOULD HAVE SOME RESTROOMS 
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FOR THOSE PERSONNEL AND ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS PERSONNEL THAT ARE OUT IN THE FIELD ALL DAY. 
          UM, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE A PLACE THEY COULD STOP IN AND USE, USE THE RESTROOMS. THERE'D BE SOME STORAGE, THERE'D BE SOME TEMPORARY, UH, KENNEL SPACE FOR ANIMALS. 
          THERE'D BE A AN AREA WHERE THE PUBLIC COULD COME IN IF THEY SET UP AN APPOINTMENT TO REQUEST TO MEET AN ANIMAL FOR POSSIBLE ADOPTION. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UH, THE PRICE WAS, UH, 2 25 OUTTA UTILITY AND 25 OUT OF SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR A TOTAL OF TWO 50 FOR ENGINEERING AND DESIGN. 
          THANK YOU BILL. 
          CHRIS COMING. 
          DAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU BILL. 
          SO WITH OUR NEW VENDOR IN LITTLE ELM THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE ANIMAL SERVICES, WOULD THIS EVER HAVE A FUTURE IMPACT ON THEIR SERVICES OR THEIR CONTRACT GOING FORWARD, FORWARD WITH US? I'LL LET LESLIE SPEAK TO THAT. 
          YEAH, GOOD QUESTION. 
          LESLIE AND I'M DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. 
          UM, SO WE, UM, HAVE APPROVED THE CONTRACT WITH ALL AMERICAN, UM, ALL ALL, THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND SO IT IS NOT INTENDED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OVERLAP, BUT PROVIDE, PROVIDE OUR ANIMAL SERVICES TEAM WITH THE NEEDED RESOURCES IN ORDER TO EXECUTE THAT AGREEMENT. 
          UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, AND I, WE VERY BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT THIS DURING THAT CONTRACT DISCUSSION. 
          UM, BUT SOMETIMES WE GET ANIMALS. 
          LET'S SAY THERE'S AN EMERGENCY SCENARIO, UH, WHERE WE GET CALLED IN AT THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. 
          UM, WE MIGHT, IT, IT'S LIKELY NOT, UM, A VALUE FOR, UM, THE TOWN'S RESOURCES TO SEND THAT EMPLOYEE ON A HOUR LONG ROUND TRIP DRIVE TO DROP OFF THAT ANIMAL AT PILOT POINT. 
          IT'S MORE EFFECTIVE TO STORE THEM AT OUR FACILITY UNTIL THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY AND A KENNEL, WHICH THAT'S A PRACTICE WE CURRENTLY DO. 
          AND THEN WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LINK UP AND MAYBE WE'RE TRANSPORTING THREE ANIMALS AT ONE TIME INSTEAD OF TAKING ALL OF THESE INDEPENDENT TRIPS. 
          IT'S ALSO TAKING OUR, OUR OFFICERS OUT OF THEIR TYPICAL PATROLS. 
          SO WE TRY TO INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY IN THAT RESPECT. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT SOMETIMES WE GET, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IF WE HAVE A STRAY ANIMAL, UM, AND IT'S CLEARLY SOMEONE'S PET, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE IT BACK TO OUR FACILITY AND WE ARE GOING TO, WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO CHECK IF IT'S MICROCHIPPED AND LOOK IT UP. 
          UM, AND IF WE IDENTIFY THAT PERSON, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S AN ADDISON RESIDENT OR NOT, WE WERE GOING TO CALL THEM AND ASK TO THEM TO COME RETRIEVE THEIR ANIMAL AND HOPEFULLY THEY CAN RETRIEVE IT MUCH VERY QUICKLY WITHIN, YOU KNOW, A SHORT TIMEFRAME. 
          AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT TO PILOT OR EXCUSE ME, ALL AMERICAN AND IT'S GONNA COUNT AGAINST OUR NUMBERS SO WE, BECAUSE THEN WE'RE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY FOR THEM TO TEMPORARY STORE SOMEONE'S DOG WHO MAY HAVE JUST GOTTEN OUT FOR AN AFTERNOON AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          SO THOSE ARE KIND OF A FEW SCENARIOS OF WHERE WE'RE GONNA UTILIZE THE RESOURCES WE CAN TO AVOID OVER, OR I SHOULD SAY INEFFICIENTLY USING OUR OTHER RESOURCES. 
          YEAH, IT'S A DOMINO EFFECT. 
          'CAUSE THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE GRANT MONEY FOR CODY'S ON AND ON AND ON. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          CAN YOU BRING UP SLIDE 76 PLEASE? 72? WELL, 76. 
          OH, MAYBE TELL ME WHICH ONE. 
          MAYBE THESE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THAT ONE, THAT ONE, THAT 76. 
          SO, UM, THIS IS FOR THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN, THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE ENGINEERING. 
          SO THE DESIGN DOCUMENTS TO BUILD THIS. 
          AND IF IT'S 225,000, THEN WHAT'S THAT? USUALLY A 10% RULE. 
          SO IT WOULD BE ABOUT TWO AND A QUARTER, TWO AND A HALF GOT MORE WAREHOUSEY. 
          UH, SO EIGHT THOUGH, WE, WE HAD A CONTRACTOR COME OUT AND IT IS TOUGH WITH CONCRETE AND STEEL PRICES RIGHT NOW, BUT PROBABLY 3 MILLION ON THE LOWER END AND, UH, DEPENDS ON WHERE PRICES GO FROM THERE. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM GOOGLE MAPS, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY UGLY. 
          UM, WE COULD USE THIS. 
          UH, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I SEE. 
          UM, THE FACILITY THERE IS THE ONLY ONE STORY BRICK BUILDING AND THAT'S GOT THE PUMP IN IT, THE SIR LIFT LIFTING IN IT. 
          YES SIR. 
          IS THERE ANY RESTROOMS ON THAT SIDE ANYWAY? ANYWHERE. 
          SO NOBODY CAN USE RESTROOMS THERE. 
          THERE'S A SINGLE RESTROOM, BECKY SAYS YEAH, THE RESTROOM. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          UM, WOULD WE WANT TO EXPAND THIS SCOPE A LITTLE MORE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE LIKE SOME FUTURE EXPANSION FOR ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT FIT OVER THERE? THAT, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING I THINK ABOUT FOR THIS. 
          I, I SEE THIS AS NECESSARY BECAUSE I MEAN, ALL THE REASONS THAT YOU LISTED THE, UH, EQUIPMENT, THIS, THIS, THE MATERIALS OUT IN THE ELEMENTS, THAT'S A BAD IDEA. 
          IT'S A BETTER KEEPING OF, OF OUR EXPENSIVE TRUCKS AND SUCH. 
          SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY ON THE KIND OF THE CEN CENTER NORTH PART FOR SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE. 
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THE YELLOW BUILDING COULD BE BIGGER. 
          WELL, YES, SIR. 
          THAT THAT COULD, THAT COULD GO THAT WAY. 
          UM, NOT AN ARCHITECT, I JUST, YEAH, THE, I THINK ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE YOU GOT PROPERTY LINES. 
          THE WAY THE DRIVEWAY IS, THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT MUCH ROOM THERE. 
          I'D SUGGEST TO BUILD ANYTHING TO US AS A COUNCIL. 
          THIS IS PROBABLY SOMETHING WE NEED. 
          AND, AND IF IT'S ENGINEERING, THEN IT MAY BE THAT WE AT LEAST ADD ON ANOTHER PHASE, MAYBE THAT WE MAY NOT EXECUTE NOW, BUT WE CAN HAVE IT READY TO DO THE NEXT PIECE AS WELL. 
          'CAUSE IT'S MOBILIZATION AND BUILDING, UH, PROBABLY GET A BETTER ECONOMY OF SCALE. 
          UM, AND SO IN THE, IT WOULD BE A CAPITAL, UM, SOMETHING FUNDED MAY, MAYBE IT WOULD BE CASH FUNDED, UM, MAYBE NOT FINANCED, BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE IN THIS NEXT YEAR. 
          THIS, THIS PART IS THE, THE DESIGNS ONLY IN THIS YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. 
          I THINK WE NEED IT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          YOU HAVE SOMETHING DOWN? YEAH, I DO. 
          SO, REAL QUICK, YOU MENTIONED A VENDOR OUT THAT GAVE YOU A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF 3 MILLION FOR THE TWO BUILDINGS. 
          FOR THE THREE BUILDINGS. 
          WHAT YOU SEE THERE, UH, THE, THE, THE ANIMAL SERVICES AND BOTH OF THE, THE METAL BUILDINGS. 
          WOULD THERE BE AN RFP THAT WOULD GO OFF FOR THIS FORMALLY OR NO, WE WOULD JUST USE THE, NO, WE NEED, WE NEED THAT DESIGN. 
          THERE'S, THERE, WE THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT'LL PROBABLY GO ON UNDERGROUND THERE, UH, FOR, FOR DRAINAGE. 
          SO WE NEED THE ENGINEERING TO HELP, HELP US DO ALL OF THAT. 
          TO MAKE SURE, THIS WAS A VERY ROUGH PROOF OF CONCEPT AND SIZE. 
          WE TALKED TO THE DEPARTMENTS, FIGURED OUT THEIR NEEDS. 
          WE WORKED WITH THAT, A CONTRACTOR THAT WE REALLY TRUST AND HAS, HAS DONE PROJECTS LIKE THIS IN THE PAST. 
          BUT WE, WE REALLY NEED TO, TO BE SURE THAT WE DON'T START SOMETHING AND THEN FIND BIG PROBLEMS. DO THIS ENGINEERING AND DESIGN TO MAKE SURE THAT WILL ALL WORK. 
          AND TO DARREN'S POINT, MAYBE THOSE PROFESSIONALS SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LAY IT OUT DIFFERENTLY AND GIVE US FUTURE SPACE AND FUTURE PROOF IT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE FELT LIKE THAT'S, THAT'S TIME AND MONEY WELL SPENT TO DO THAT. 
          I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE TWO VISUALS OF THOSE TWO, UM, STEEL SHEDS. 
          LET'S CALL 'EM THE GARAGE AND THE STORAGE. 
          THE OTHER PHOTO THERE. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          YEP. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, SO THERE'S NO WORK. 
          THOSE PRETTY STANDARD PREFAB, YOU JUST TELL 'EM LENGTH AND WIDTH AND THERE YOU GO. 
          RIGHT. 
          OR THE PLA BUT IT'S THE ENGINEERING UNDERNEATH THESE VEHICLES ARE VERY HEAVY. 
          THE STEEL, THE CONCRETE, THE SIZE OF THE REBA, ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE ENGINEERED TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT. 
          THE STRUCTURE THAT SITS ON TOP OF IT, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          THAT'S WHY I WAS, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU NEEDED AN R IF WE'RE GONNA DO AN RFP FOR THAT TYPE OF WORK RIGHT THERE VERSUS THE BUILDING FOR THE ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I SAID THIS, SMALL WORLD FRIENDS ARE IN THAT WORLD. 
          THEY LIVE IN THAT STEEL BUSINESS. 
          I CAN GIVE YOU THE OFFLINE CONTACT. 
          GREAT. 
          I'M JUST ASKING IF THERE WOULD BE A FORMAL RFP. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, BILL. 
          SO ON, ON THIS PAGE LOOKS LIKE A CONCEPT PICTURE AND SOMEBODY MADE A SKETCH. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO ON 76, WHO, WHO DID THAT? CAN YOU GO TO 76? WHO DID THAT ON THE LEFT? SO THAT IS, UM, SPEARMAN CUSTOM SOLUTIONS. 
          SO THAT'S A COMPANY THAT WE'VE USED FOR A NUMBER OF, UH, REMODEL PROJECTS. 
          HIS OFFICE IS RIGHT, RIGHT HERE OFF OF, UH, BELTLINE BEHIND FEDEX. 
          SO HE'S, HE'S ALWAYS VERY, VERY QUICK AND WILLING TO COME OVER AND, UH, GAVE US AN AFTERNOON AND THEN A PROBABLY ANOTHER DAY OF HIS TIME TO, TO WORK THIS UP AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD WORK AT, AT NO COST TO THE OKAY. 
          BUT THAT, UM, THAT'S NOT THE FINAL PRODUCT, CORRECT? NO, SIR. 
          THIS, THIS IS JUST KIND OF A CONCEPT. 
          THIS IS JUST KIND OF A VISUAL FOR US. 
          AND, AND WOULD IT FIT HOW LONG, HOW, HOW LONG IS THE BUILDING THAT WILL FIT THE TRUCKS SHE NEEDS? IT'S KIND OF A GOOD STORAGE. 
          SO, AND, AND THESE ARE JUST ROUGH BOXES ON A, ON A PLAN, BUT THE, THE DESIGN AND THE ENGINEERING IS ALL THE, ALL THE DRAINAGE AND THE STRENGTH AND THE STRUCTURES AND, AND WILL IT ALL TRULY WORK? THIS THIS PROVES IT'LL FIT ON THE SITE. 
          IT'S GOT THE RIGHT FLOW BEYOND THAT. 
          THIS ALL IT DID WAS RIGHT, WAS SO WE DON'T NEED TO GET TOO STUCK ON, ON THIS RIGHT HERE. 
          CORRECT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ALSO AS WE'RE ENGINEERING, I MENTIONED ABOUT GROWTH, FUTURE EXPANSION OR OTHER CONSOLIDATION. 
          BUT FROM A, UM, FROM A, UM, HOW LONG WOULD THIS LAST US BEFORE WE OUTGROW THIS? THAT'S THE KIND OF THINGS I WOULD THINK ABOUT. 
          SURE. 
          DRAWING ON 76 AND THAT'S THE, THAT INCLUDED PART OF THAT, THAT NEED. 
          WE'VE GONE THROUGH A, A PRELIMINARY NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE PART OF ALL THAT DESIGN AS WELL. 
          SO, BECAUSE IF IT'S GONNA LAST US FIVE YEARS AND WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING ELSE TO IT, WE WOULD HATE TO DO THAT. 
          I WANT TO KNOW THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          IT IS. 
          THANK YOU BILL AND BECKY AND LESLIE AND STEVEN. 
          PASSION. 
          THANK FOR ALL YOU'VE HAD TO SAY TODAY. 
          I WISH WE'VE STILL GOT MORE TO GO. 
          IT IS TWO, IT'S TWO. 
          IT'S 2 33. 
          YEAH. 
          Y'ALL THOUGHT WE WERE GOING HOME. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S 2 33. 
          IT'S A GOOD TIME FOR A 10 MINUTE BREAK, Y'ALL. 
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I DON'T THINK WE, HEY, IT IS, UH, TWO. 
          IT'S TWO. 
          IT'S 2 46. 
          WE ARE COMING BACK INTO SESSION FROM OUR BREAK AND WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG. 
          UH, AND JUST, UH, JUST TO GIVE COUNSEL A HEADS UP ON TIMING TODAY, WE'VE ONLY GOT A COUPLE HOURS LEFT IN THE AFTERNOON IF WE GET TOO TIGHT ON TIME. 
          THE, UH, SECTION ON ONE TIME PROJECTS, OTHER FUNDS, WHICH IS YOUR SLIDE 2 6 5. 
          UH, WILL, WE WILL PUSH THAT TO TUESDAY DURING OUR WORK SESSION, UH, WHICH WE DO HAVE SOME TIME ALLOTTED ALREADY FOR THAT, FOR THAT ITEM ON TUESDAY. 
          BUT WE'LL SEE HOW THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS GOES. 
          SO WITH THAT STORMWATER FUND, STEVEN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UH, MOVING ON TO THE STORMWATER FUND. 
          UH, THIS ONE, UH, SHOULD BE FAIRLY QUICK, BUT, UH, OVERALL, UH, THE STORMWATER FUND HAS A FAIRLY LARGE BEGINNING, UH, RESERVE BALANCE OF ABOUT 8.2 MILLION, UH, 2.9 IN REVENUE, UH, 2.9 IN OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          UH, AND THEN IT DOES HAVE SOME ONE-TIME CAPITAL PROJECTS, ONE-TIME DECISION PACKAGES. 
          AND THEN IS ALSO, UH, TRANSFERRING MONEY OVER TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUNDS. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A PLAN DRAWDOWN IN THAT WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE DOWN TO SIX, UH, LITTLE OVER 6.5 MILLION, WHICH STILL LEAVES US WITH ABOUT 222%, UH, OF OUR OPERATING, UH, EXPENSES IN RESERVE. 
          UH, SO YOU LOOK AT THIS FUND, AND AGAIN, THIS SHOWS THAT, UH, THAT BLACK LINE, WE DO HAVE A REALLY LARGE, UH, HIGH OPERATING, UH, RESERVE BALANCE RIGHT NOW. 
          THERE IS A PLAN HERE, UH, TO DRAW THAT DOWN OVER, UH, REALLY THE NEXT, UH, SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AND GET IT DOWN CLOSER TO, UH, WHAT OUR, UH, RESERVE REQUIREMENT IS. 
          UH, AND REALLY THAT MOST OF THAT IS, IS DUE TO TRANSFERRING OVER TO, UH, HELP, UH, THE DEBT SERVICE FUND PAY FOR, FOR, UH, STREET PROJECTS THAT HAVE HAD STORMWATER COMPONENTS. 
          UH, SO THERE ARE SOME ASSUMPTIONS IN HERE, AND THE BIGGEST ASSUMPTION IS, IS IF THAT MARY KAY SITE DEVELOPS THAT THERE COULD BE A LARGE ANTICIPATED, UH, STORMWATER PROJECT THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME SUBSTANTIAL, UH, IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA. 
          UH, SO THIS INCLUDES ABOUT $10 MILLION, UH, WHICH WOULD BE FUNDED FROM DEBT ISSUANCES IN 2029 AND 2030 SHOULD THAT PROJECT DEVELOP. 
          UH, SO THAT'S REALLY DRIVES FEE INCREASES THAT MAY BE NECESSARY. 
          UM, IN THE COMING YEARS. 
          THERE ARE NO FEE INCREASES IN THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET, BUT IF THERE WAS A LARGE PROJECT THAT CAME FORWARD, UH, WE WOULD NEED TO INCREASE FEES. 
          SO THIS ESTIMATES ABOUT SIX AND A HALF PERCENT THROUGH 20, 36% THROUGH 2033, AND THEN ZERO, UH, AFTER THAT. 
          UH, THIS INCLUDES 3.5% INCREASES IN SALARIES AND 5% INCREASES IN HEALTH INSURANCE, AND THEN A 1% INCREASE IN OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          SO IT DOES GET US CLOSE TO THAT RESERVE REQUIREMENT, BUT AGAIN, THIS, THIS FUND HAS A REALLY LARGE RESERVE. 
          AND, UH, RATHER THAN INCREASING, UH, FEES, WE NEED TO, UH, GET THAT DOWN, UH, BY UTILIZING IT. 
          SO THERE ARE TWO DECISION PACKAGES. 
          UH, BECKY HAS ALREADY SPOKE TO BOTH OF THESE, SO THERE'S NOT DETAILS, UH, ADDITIONALLY ON THESE. 
          SO THIS IS THE STREET MAINTENANCE WORKER POSITION THAT IS, UH, 50% FUNDED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, 50%, UH, FROM THE STORMWATER FUND AND THE GIS ANALYST, UH, CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, 50% OF THAT WAS FUNDED OUTTA THE UTILITY FUND. 
          50% IS FUNDED OUT OF THE STORMWATER FUND. 
          UH, SO AGAIN, I KIND OF MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE, UH, SOME POTENTIAL FOR LARGE PROJECTS IF THE MARY KAY SITE DOES DEVELOP, UH, SOME OTHER POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT MAY BE ON THE HORIZON, UH, FOR THE STORMWATER FUND WOULD BE, UH, DREDGING THE VITRUVIAN POND, UH, AND CREEK, AND THEN REPLACING THE RECIRCULATION SYSTEM, UH, AT THE VITRUVIAN PARK, UH, POND AS WELL. 
          UH, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT STORMWATER FUND? UM, STEVEN, ON, CAN YOU GO BACK A COUPLE SLIDES TO THE MODEL? SO THE STORMWATER FUND, WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE RATES THIS YEAR. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, BUT IN THE MODEL YOU'VE GOT, UH, USING SIX POINT A HALF PERCENT EVERY YEAR THROUGH 2030. 
          AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          WHY? UM, AND WHY ARE WE, SO WHY ARE WE DOING THAT WHEN WE'VE GOT SUCH A HUGE BALANCE? MOSTLY THAT MOSTLY ASSUMES THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A REALLY LARGE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE THAT WE'RE GONNA FINANCE, UM, OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. 
          SO IF THAT PROJECT WAS MOVED AND SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN LATER AS FAR AS SOONER, THEN THAT WOULD DELAY THOSE NEEDED RATE INCREASES. 
          IT JUST, IT JUST SEEMS OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU USE, YOU USUALLY ARE MODELING REALLY CONSERVATIVE, 
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BUT THAT, THAT SEEMS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU TYPICALLY DO. 
          YEAH, I THINK IT, IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT AND ONE YOU DON'T WANNA GET IN A SITUATION REALLY WHERE WE GET DOWN THREE YEARS AND THEN SAY, WELL, WE NEED TO INCREASE 'EM BY 30% AS OPPOSED TO A PHASED APPROACH OF INCREASING THEM, UH, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OVER MULTIPLE YEARS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IF WE GOT TO SAY 2029 OR 2030 AND WE, WE DID MUCH LOWER INCREASES, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A REALLY LARGE INCREASE. 
          SHOULD, UH, THAT MARY KAY SITE, UH, HAVE A, HAVE A LARGE STORMWATER PROJECT THAT'S FUNDED OUTTA THIS FUND. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND SO I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST ABOUT THIS REALLY LARGE INCREASE THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT MIGHT COME FROM. 
          UM, AND I'M, I'M KIND OF, I'M, I'M KIND OF SCRATCHING MY HEAD AS, UM, I'M NOT TRACKING THAT BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE CREATE THIS, THIS, THIS WHAT IF SCENARIO AND WE GIVE IT A NAME AND, UM, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. 
          UM, IS THAT, IS THAT TYPICAL FROM OUR OTHER, WITH OUR OTHER FUNDS? IT JUST ARE, WE JUST, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'VE GOT A HUGE FUND BALANCE AND WE JUST SEEM LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, CRE WE'RE BEING VERY CREATIVE ON WHY WE'RE, WHY WE'RE KEEPING THAT SO HIGH. 
          WELL, WE, WE ARE ACTUALLY THIS, AND THIS BUDGET DOES DRAW DOWN PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY ON THE RESERVE. 
          SO WE'RE STARTING THE YEAR, UH, WITH 8.2 MILLION. 
          UH, WE'RE ENDING THE YEAR AT 6.5, SO WE ARE DRAWING DOWN THE EXISTING RESERVE BY ABOUT 1.6, 1.7 MILLION. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          UM, SO THAT WOULD I ESTIMATE CONTINUE AND MAINLY BECAUSE OF THAT TRANSFER TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND. 
          UH, SO I'D ANTICIPATE AT LEAST BEING DRAWN DOWN OVER A MILLION EACH YEAR FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS. 
          UM, AND AGAIN THOUGH, IF IT'S A REALLY LARGE PROJECT THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE COMING OUT OF THIS FUND, UM, AND THAT'S REALLY A POLICY DECISION, DO WE WANT TO HAVE LOWER INCREASES AND A LARGE ONE AT A LATER DATE? OR DO WE WANT TO PHASE THOSE IN, UH, SO THAT THE RATE INCREASES ARE, ARE MORE SMOOTH OVER TIME? RIGHT. 
          THIS MODEL HAS SMOOTH OVER TIME AS OPPOSED TO A LARGE, UH, INCREASE AT IN ONE PARTICULAR YEAR. 
          AND IT JUST THROWING ME OFF A LITTLE BIT WITH THE, SOME OF YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ON YOUR MODEL, BUT, UM, AND I I SAY IT'S GREAT. 
          I'M, I'M, I MEAN, WHAT IT'S GREAT IS, IS WE USE THAT, THAT THAT ONE SOMETHING MILLION TO PAY OFF DEBT. 
          UM, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT MOVE. 
          UM, AND SO THIS, THIS, UH, MARY KAY SITE DEVELOPMENT, IF THAT WERE TO BE THIS BIG, UM, BIG STORMWATER PROJECT, DO WE, DO WE HAVE A FEEL FOR THAT OR WE WON'T HAVE A FEEL FOR THAT UNTIL WE, WE DO THIS, UH, ASSESSMENT, SOME THIS, UH, PROFESSIONAL ASSESSMENT OF THAT PROPERTY? WELL, WELL, THAT WILL GIVE US A MUCH BETTER FEEL. 
          I MEAN, THE ORIGINAL, I THINK, ESTIMATE CAME FROM I THINK 2017 OR 2018. 
          SO IT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY, FAIRLY OLD, OLD NUMBERS AT THIS POINT, UM, AND THROUGH COVID AND EVERYTHING WITH PRICE INCREASES THAT WE'VE SEEN. 
          BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT WILL GIVE US A MUCH BETTER FEEL ON WHAT THE ACTUAL NEEDS, UH, WOULD BE IF THAT'S WHAT THAT MIGHT COST. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANKS STEVEN. 
          QUICK QUESTION. 
          UH, SO THE STORMWATER, THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE FEES THAT ARE, UH, DETERMINED BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF NONPERMEABLE SURFACE, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          HOW, HOW, WHEN A PROPERTY LIKE MARY KAY OR ANY OTHER PROPERTY IS REDEVELOPED, HOW IS, HOW IS THAT REASSESSED, WHAT THAT FEE IS AND ANY OTHER SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS TO A PROPERTY THAT INCREASE OR DECREASE THE PER NONPERMEABLE? SURE. 
          THERE, THERE'S, UH, THERE'S REALLY TWO, I GUESS TWO DIFFERENT BILLS. 
          WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL. 
          RESIDENTIAL. 
          WE HAVE, I THINK, FIVE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL CHARGES YOU WOULD HAVE. 
          AND IT'S BASED ON, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE 1000 TO 19 THOU 1,999 SQUARE FEET OR CHARGE SOMETHING. 
          AND IT GOES UP LIKE A A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. 
          AND THERE'S A FIXED CHARGE. 
          COMMERCIAL IS RIGHT NOW THREE DO I THINK $3 AND 88 CENTS PER 1000 SQUARE FEET. 
          UH, SO WHEN WE DO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND PUBLIC WORKS TEAMS, THEY PROVIDE US, UH, THE DATA ON THAT UPDATED, UH, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE BUILD THAT CUSTOMER BASED ON THAT NEW DATA. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO IF, IF SOMEBODY POURS A LOT OF CONCRETE OUT THERE, AND I'M ASSUMING IT, YOU KNOW, IT WILL 'CAUSE IT'S GREEN SPACE, THERE WILL BE MORE REVENUE COMING INTO THIS FUND AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, I'VE GOT SOMETHING ELSE I'M THINKING ABOUT TOO, AND I'LL JUST TALK TO DAVE MORE ABOUT THAT. 
          SO, UH, TO MARLIN'S POINT, WE'RE, WE WON'T SEE THE SIX POINT A HALF PERCENT INCREASES UNTIL WE ACTUALLY SEE MORE TRACTION ON A DEVELOPMENT THERE OVER AT MARY KAY. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA BE DEFINITELY NEXT 
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YEAR. 
          IT'S JUST WHENEVER THAT STARTS DEVELOPING. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          HOW DO WE DECIDE, UM, SO WE HAVE A STREET MAINTENANCE WORKER AND THE GIS ANALYST WE'RE PUTTING HALF IN, IN THIS BUDGET. 
          CAN WE JUST PUT BOTH OF THEM IN THIS BUDGET SINCE, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT THE BALANCE. 
          HOW DO WE DECIDE HALF AND HALF? WELL, I THINK ALL OF OUR STREET MAINTENANCE WORKERS ARE SPLIT 50 50, UH, BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND AND STORMWATER. 
          UH, BECAUSE BASICALLY HALF OF THE, THE BULK TRASH PICKUP IS A STORMWATER FUNCTION. 
          AND THE REGULAR STREET WORK THAT THEY DO IS, IS A GENERAL FUND FUNCTION. 
          UM, SO THAT'S REALLY WHY THEY'RE ALL SPLIT LIKE THAT. 
          UM, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT. 
          IF WE COULD REMOVE SOME OF THAT OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND AND PUT IT IN THIS BUDGET. 
          'CAUSE IT'S GOT THE BALANCE, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHO DICTATES THAT. 
          AND WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO MOVE IT OVER. 
          I THINK WE CAN GET, WE CAN GET PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND WORK ON A JUSTIFICATION. 
          I THINK. 
          I THINK THERE'S A, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT IN TOTAL, INSTEAD OF PER PERSON, YOU SAY, HEY, WHERE IS THIS TOTAL GROUP SPENDING THEIR TIME? I THINK THERE'S A WAY WE COULD REVISIT THAT. 
          THAT'S AN IDEA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, GOING ON TO THE HOTEL FUND. 
          UH, SO HOTEL FUND, UH, OVERALL REVENUE, UH, 7,182,000, UM, IS, IS WHAT THE PROJECTION IS. 
          UH, OPERATING EXPENDITURE 7,175,000. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A SLIGHT REVENUE OVER EXPENSE. 
          UH, THERE ARE SOME ONE-TIME DECISION PACKAGES, UH, THAT WE'LL GET TO. 
          AND THEN THE CASH FUNDING OF CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          THAT IS THE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE, UH, PROJECT, UH, SO THAT BRINGS OUR FUND BALANCE DOWN TO ABOUT 3,657,000. 
          BUT WE'RE STILL AT, UH, 51% OF OUR OPERATING, UH, EXPENDITURES IN RESERVE. 
          UH, LOOKING AT THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL PLAN, UH, FOR THE HOTEL FUND. 
          UH, SO IF WE'RE PROJECTING, UH, 2% INCREASES IN HOTEL TAX PER YEAR, UH, THIS BUDGET OR THIS, UH, PROJECTION INCLUDES, UH, THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASES IN SALARIES, 5%, UH, FOR HEALTH INSURANCE, 1% INCREASES IN, UH, OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          UH, OVERALL, I MEAN, WE DO SEE THE DRAWDOWN BECAUSE WE ARE FUNDING THE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE PROJECT, UH, OUT OF THE HOTEL FUND, WHICH IS AN APPROPRIATE USE. 
          UH, BUT OVERALL THE HOTEL FUND, UH, STAYS PRETTY, UH, PRETTY SOLID ON PRETTY SOLID FOOTING. 
          UH, BASED ON THE CURRENT PROGRAMMING FOR THAT FUND, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE BASICALLY, UH, AROUND DOUBLE WHAT OUR OPERATING RESERVE REQUIREMENT IS THROUGHOUT THE 10 YEAR, UH, FINANCIAL PLAN. 
          UH, THIS IS REVENUES VERSUS EXPENDITURES FOR KABOOM TOWN. 
          UH, SO KABOOM TOWN, WE DO HAVE THE, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE REVENUE NUMBERS, BUT, UH, EXCEEDED THE REVENUE ESTIMATE, UH, FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. 
          UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY A POSITIVE SIGN. 
          UH, THE EXPENDITURES WILL HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THOSE, UH, AS WE GO FORWARD. 
          BUT, UH, WE ANTICIPATE THAT, UH, THE OVERALL INVESTMENT WILL BE, UH, MORE ALIGNED, UH, MORE OR LESS IN LINE WITH WHAT THE BUDGET IS. 
          UH, AND YOU CAN SEE THE BUDGET THERE FOR, UH, 2027, UH, 300, 1000 IN REVENUE, 555,000 IN EXPENSE. 
          THEN WE HAVE OCTOBERFEST. 
          THIS EVENT HASN'T OCCURRED. 
          SO, UH, 2026 IS SHOWING, UH, ONLY WHAT THE, UH, EXISTING BUDGET IS. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE BUDGET THERE FOR 20 27, 700 15,000 IN REVENUE, 954,000 ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THE ADDISON. 
          SO, UH, OVERALL, UH, REVENUE FROM THE ADDISON IS ESTIMATED ABOUT 120,000 PER YEAR, UH, EXPENDITURES, 970,000. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THAT NET INVESTMENT LISTED THERE, UH, WHICH, UH, CAN CANNOT EXCEED 15% OF WHAT OUR HOTEL TAX COLLECTIONS ARE, UH, FOR THE ARTS. 
          UH, SO WE'LL GET INTO, UH, THE NONPROFIT, UH, PERFORMING ARTS FUNDING HERE IN A SECOND, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN, IN THAT BUDGET, BUT IT IS SLIGHTLY BELOW THAT, UH, THAT OVERALL MAXIMUM INVESTMENT OF 15% OF HOTEL TAX. 
          AND HERE WE ARE WITH THE, UH, PERFORMING ARTS ORGANIZATIONS. 
          UH, SO AGAIN, THESE WERE PRESENTED TO THE, UH, COMMITTEE, UM, UH, UH, OVER THE LAST MONTH OR SO. 
          UH, THERE WERE SEVERAL, UM, APPLICANTS, UH, AND, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE. 
          UH, SO OVERALL, UH, WATER TOWER THEATER HAD REQUESTED, UH, $400,000. 
          UH, THE COMMITTEE INCLUDED, UH, 318 596. 
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UM, IN ADDITION TO, UH, $40,000 OF IN KIND FUNDING, UH, ACCOLADE, UH, REQUESTED $15,000. 
          UH, THE COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING $10,000 IN FUNDING FOR THEM. 
          OUTCRY THEATER REQUESTED $20,000. 
          THE COMMITTEE, UH, RECOMMENDED $10,000 IN FUNDING FOR THEM. 
          UH, PLANO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA REQUESTED 9,500. 
          UH, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED 5,000 FOR THEM. 
          UH, JUNIOR PLAY, UH, FULL CIRCLE, FULL DANCE CIRCLE, REQUESTED 19 985. 
          UH, THE COMMITTEE DID NOT, UH, UH, RECOMMEND ANY FUNDING FOR THEM. 
          JUNIOR PLAYERS. 
          39,550 WAS THEIR REQUEST. 
          1500 IS WHAT WAS, UH, RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE. 
          WE HAVE THE CLASSICS THAT REQUESTED 50,000. 
          THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED 40,000. 
          AND THEN TOWN CURATED EVENTS, UH, 76,700, UH, WHICH IS INCLUDED, UH, WHICH WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMITTEE AS WELL. 
          UH, AND, UM, THE TOTAL 4 61, 7 96 FOR THOSE. 
          AND HERE IS, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION RE REGARDING THOSE, UH, NONPROFIT FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          UH, THE NUMBER OF PRODUCTIONS, NUMBER OF PERFORMANCE, NUMBER NUMBERS OF DATES THAT EACH OF THESE ENTITIES, UH, WILL, UH, IS PROPOSED TO PERFORM, UH, ALONG WITH SOME PROJECTED AVERAGE ATTENDANCE PER EVENT. 
          UH, OVER TO THE RIGHT, UH, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE RECOMMENDED FUNDING, UH, FOR EACH OF THESE ENTITIES. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          I'M SURE WE'RE GONNA HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT , ABOUT THESE. 
          UH, THANK YOU STEVEN. 
          QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ABOUT THE, UH, THIS, I'LL JUST MAKE ONE NOTE, JUST BE, 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T DO THE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS, SO WE DIDN'T GET TO POINT THIS OUT. 
          AND I DID, WE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH A COMMITTEE, BUT I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE, UM, ABBY AND NICOLE, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT THE, THE NUMBER OF, UM, RENTALS THAT WE'VE HAD, THE NUMBER OF PERFORMANCES WE'VE HAD AT THE ADDISON OVER THE PAST YEAR, IT'S INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY, REALLY MEETING THOSE GOALS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW YEARS AGO WITH THE STUDY. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY A TESTAMENT TO THEIR WORK. 
          NICOLE IS JUST OUT THERE FINDING A TON OF GROUPS TO COME IN AND PERFORM. 
          UM, SO IT'S JUST A GREAT STORY ON WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING AT THE THEATER THAT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT. 
          YEAH, NO, I, I AGREE. 
          IT'S REALLY, REALLY GREAT WORK AND MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WHERE WE, WHERE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT GOING. 
          MARLON, UH, YES. 
          I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION ON OUTCRY THEATER. 
          WE'VE GOT THESE, UH, RESIDENTS, UM, IS OUTCRY THEATER, NOT THE, THE, UH, THE RESIDENT FOR THE STONE COTTAGE? NO, THOSE CLASSICS, WASN'T IT? WELL, THERE'S STUDIO. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT THE COTTAGE. 
          WE GOT THREE, THREE DIFFERENT, UH, VENUES. 
          THEY, NONE. 
          AND, AND ABBY, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN JUST GIVE A BRIEF, UH, SYNOPSIS OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A RESIDENT OF WHATEVER VENUE? YES. 
          ABBY MORALES, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEATER. 
          UM, SO TO BE A RESIDENT COMPANY, THERE'S A COUPLE OF CRITERIA THAT WE LOOK AT, UM, THE SPACE THAT YOU'RE PERFORMING IN, THE NUMBER OF LIT NIGHTS THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING, AND THEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE WITH REGARDS TO RENTAL OF THE FACILITY. 
          THAT INCLUDES YOUR REHEARSALS AS, AS WELL AS YOUR PERFORMANCES. 
          AND SO THAT'S THE GENERAL HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW CRITERIA FOR THAT. 
          UM, I DID SEE THAT, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE COMMITTEE WAS FOR THE CLASSICS TO BE THE RESIDENT COMPANY OF THE STUDIO THEATER. 
          THEY HAVE TRADITIONALLY PRODUCED IN THE STONE COTTAGE, UM, UP TO THIS POINT. 
          AND I DID NOT SEE A RECOMMENDATION BY THE COMMITTEE FOR A, UM, RESIDENT COMPANY OF THE STONE COTTAGE, BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I DIDN'T EVEN, I DON'T RECALL US MAKING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON ANY RESIDENTS STATUS OR NOT OF ANY KIND. 
          THE CLASSICS WATER TOWER THEATER. 
          WE, WE KIND OF, UH, RELY ON, ON YOU ALL TO DO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T EVEN THINK IT WAS ON OUR RADAR TO, TO CONSIDER. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND NOT EVEN SO, SO ARE WE GONNA HAVE A RESIDENT FOR THE, UH, AND SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD OVER THE YEARS FROM YOU ALL IS YOU ALL SHARED IS, SO IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT, THEN YOU, YOU GET, UH, YOU'RE DELIVERING A LOT TO US. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT YOU'RE ALSO, YOU'RE GETTING A LOT, SO YOU'RE GETTING, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT THEY LIKE THE PERFORMING ARTS PROVIDERS IS, IS IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT, YOU GET, YOU GET SCHEDULE FIRST, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          YOU DO HAVE PRIORITY SCHEDULING THAT WE BUILD AROUND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WERE WE GONNA HAVE A RESIDENT, UM, COMPANY FOR THE, FOR STONE COTTAGE? WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS A WHOLE AND THEN BRING THAT BACK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          AND THEN TO YOUR POINT, WE WOULD BASE THAT ON THE NUMBER OF PERFORMANCES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED, UM, SCALED WITH THE SPACE THAT THEY, UM, PREFER TO PERFORM IN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR US? I ACTUALLY WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE CLASSICS, UM, BE THE RESIDENT COMPANY OF STONE COTTAGE. 
          THEY HAVE TRADITIONALLY PERFORMED IN THAT 
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SPACE, UM, AND ARE COMFORTABLE IN THAT SPACE. 
          UM, IF WE WERE LOOKING FOR A RESIDENT COMPANY, WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY HAVE, BUT IF WE HAD A RESIDENT COMPANY FOR THE STUDIO, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, UM, WE LOOK AT EITHER OUTCRY OR ACCOLADE. 
          BOTH OF THOSE GROUPS HAVE PERFORMED INCREDIBLY WELL IN THE STUDIO, UM, AND HAD, HAVE TRADITIONALLY HAD SOLD OUT PERFORMANCES IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M CONFUSED. 
          UM, I WAS THINKING THE CLASSICS WAS, UH, WAS DOING A LOT OF PERFORMANCES IN THE STUDIO THIS PAST YEAR, THIS PAST EVENT SEASON. 
          UM, THEY WERE IN THE PRE, THEY WERE PREDOMINANTLY IN THE STONE COTTAGE. 
          THEY WERE, YES, SIR. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WANT TO BE. 
          THAT'S WHERE THEY HAD TRADITIONALLY, UM, BEEN, I THINK THAT THEY HAVE ASPIRATIONS TO BE IN THE STUDIO. 
          UM, THEIR AUDIENCE HAS TYPICALLY FILLED THE STUDIO, OR THE, I'M SORRY, THE STONE COTTAGE. 
          AND THAT WAS THE PREDOMINANT SPACE THAT THEY PERFORMED IN THE . 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE, YEAH. 
          SO, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM, FROM THE COMMITTEE IS, IS, UH, THE CLASSICS ARE REALLY BRINGING A LOT, UM, A LOT TO THE TABLE FOR, FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AND LIT KNIGHTS AND SO FORTH, CORRECT? MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO I'M, I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT LOOKING BACKWARDS ABOUT WHERE THEY'VE BEEN AND WHERE I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING AND WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE WANTING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO, SO IS THERE ANY WAY THAT, THAT YOU ALL CAN, CAN LOOK INTO THAT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND BECAUSE IF THEY'RE WANTING THE STUDIO, I'M WANTING TO GIVE THEM THE STUDIO AS, AS THE BE THE RESIDENT. 
          UH, OR IF YOU'VE GOT A, UH, A BETTER RECOMMENDATION, I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT. 
          BUT, UM, I'M, I'M THINKING THEY'RE WANTING THE STUDIO. 
          I MAY BE WRONG, BUT THEY'RE, THEY SEEM TO BE BRINGING A LOT OF PEOPLE AND A LOT OF LIT NIGHTS, UM, FOR THAT SIZE. 
          SO I, I WOULD LOVE, LOVE TO GET CONFIRMATION OF THAT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OR NOT, OR IF YOU'VE GOT A BETTER IDEA, I'D LOVE TO HEAR THAT. 
          BUT, UM, UM, WHAT I'M SEEING UP THERE WITH THE CLASSICS AND THEN THE CATEGORY, YOU'VE GOT STUDENT STUDIO RESIDENT THAT, THAT MATCHES UP WITH, WITH WHAT I THINK. 
          AND, AND WHAT I'M NOT SEEING IS WHO IS THE RESIDENT FOR THE STONE COTTAGE. 
          SO, SO I WOULD LOVE TO KIND OF HEAR YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON, ON, ON BOTH OF THOSE VENUES. 
          YES, SIR. 
          IF WE COULD. 
          AND THEN, UM, IN THE, IN THE BUDGET, UM, WE'VE GOT THIS, UH, ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING FOR THE HOLIDAY TREE LIGHTING. 
          DECEMBER HOLIDAY PROGRAMS WERE THE RECURRING COST OF, OF A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          UM, COULD YOU REFRESH OUR MEMORIES ON THAT? IS THAT, IS THAT THE SAME NUMBER THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR? WE HAVE A WHOLE DECISION PACKAGE COMING. 
          WE HAVE ABOUT SEVEN SLIDES ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE COULD WE DO THAT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE NONPROFIT? BECAUSE THAT WOULD HELP ME, UM, WELL, THEY BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING MONEY WISE. 
          WE CAN'T, I MEAN, THE FUNDING DOESN'T REALLY RELATE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF FUNDS WE CAN SPEND ON THE THEATER. 
          SO IT'S NOT RELEVANT. 
          THE MONEY THAT WE SPEND ON THE, ON THE CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL IS ON THE HOLIDAY FESTIVAL IS NOT REALLY UNDER THAT SAME CONSTRAINT. 
          IF YOU, OKAY. 
          SO LET ME ASK THE QUESTION. 
          SO, SO ON, IT'S NOT ON, IT'S NOT ON THIS SLIDE. 
          UM, WHERE IS THE, WHERE'S THE PART? THERE YOU GO. 
          RIGHT THERE. 
          SO, SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP, UH, COMMITTEE IS, IS WE WERE MAKING FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE NONPROFITS, BUT WE ALSO, UH, WE, AND WE HAD A CEILING, BECAUSE THE HOTEL FUND ONLY HAS SO MUCH FOR US TO WORK WITH. 
          UM, SO WE HAD A FUNDING CEILING. 
          UM, AND, AND SO WE HEARD FROM ALL THE NONPROFITS, BUT WE ALSO HEARD, UM, FROM THE TOWN WITH THE TOWN CURATED EVENTS. 
          SO, SO WE DECIDED TO APPROVE THE TOWN CURATED EVENTS TOTALING SEVEN 76,700. 
          IS THAT PART OF THE 250,000? THAT'S NOT, THAT'S, WE'RE TALKING, YOU'RE TALKING CHRISTY, THAT'S AN EVENT IN THE PARK. 
          IT'S JUST LIKE A FESTIVAL. 
          WELL, YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE FUNDING IS NOT OKAY, I GOT IT. 
          I GOT IT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          CHANEL. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, SO THE PLANO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA, THEY HAD, UH, ONE PRODUCTION, ONE PERFORMANCE, AND $5,000 IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. 
          WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT PERFORMANCE AND IS IT ONCE A YEAR PERFORMANCE, OR IS IT DURING CHRISTMAS TIME OR? THEY DID DO A PERFORMANCE DURING CHRISTMAS, BUT IT WASN'T PART OF THEIR, UM, GRANT FUNDING MM-HMM . 
          THIS PAST YEAR. 
          UM, THEY ACTUALLY DID A SPRINGTIME, UM, SERIES WITH US. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WAS UNRELATED TO THE HOLIDAYS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN, I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, OKAY. 
          THE FULL DANCE CIRCLE, THEY 
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HAD JUST AS MANY EVENTS, BUT TWO PERFORMANCES, BUT NO MONEY. 
          WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT? OR , WHO WERE YOU ASKING ABOUT? WHO WERE YOU ASKING? THE, UH, I'M ASKING THE COMMITTEE ABOUT THE FULL DANCE CIRCLE. 
          WHAT WAS THE, THE, YOUR PROCESS THOUGHT BEHIND THAT? I, I THINK WE GOT TO A PLACE ON THAT, THAT THAT WAS REALLY KIND OF A FIRST TIME FOR THEM TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT. 
          AND WAS THIS THE ONE THAT I THINK WE WERE FUNDING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THIS ONE. 
          IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A HUNDRED. 
          YEAH, 108%. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER FUNDING BESIDES US. 
          AND SO, SO NONE OF US REALLY FELT THAT GREAT ABOUT, UM, BEING, BEING THE SOLE PROVIDER OF, OF FUNDING FOR THIS EVENT THAT, UH, THAT, THAT THEY WERE APPEARED TO BE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY JUST TO, TO BACK THEM. 
          AND THAT REALLY DIDN'T, DIDN'T, DIDN'T SEEM LIKE A GOOD FIT FOR US. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, BUT THEY'RE DOING SOME FUN STUFF OUT IN THE, IN THE DANCE WORLD. 
          IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM LIKE A GOOD FIT FOR GRANT FUNDING FOR US. 
          THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS, IS THEY HADN'T, THEY HADN'T PERFORMED FOR US IN THE PAST. 
          UM, AND THEY, AND PART OF WHAT THEY WERE DOING WAS, UM, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO CAMPS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND, UM, AND THE TOWN CURATED EVENTS. 
          WE'VE GOT, UH, $15,000, UM, OF THAT 76,000 SOMETHING FIGURE THAT WAS CAMP RELATED. 
          SO THERE WAS SOME, SOME OVERLAP ON THOSE. 
          AND THEN, UM, THANK YOU. 
          UM, MARLON, SO CAN YOU JUST, IN MY MIND, UM, I KEEP LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF PERFORMANCES FOR WATER TOWER THEATER. 
          RIGHT. 
          55 PERFORMANCES, UH, 48 DATES. 
          HOW MANY DARK DATES HAVE WE HAD OVER THERE? DARK DAYS. 
          UM, YEAH, LIKE WHEN NOTHING WAS BOOKED FOR, FOR THIS PAST EVENT SEASON, I THINK WE HAD, UM, ALMOST, WE HAD OVER 200, UM, LIT NIGHTS. 
          AND SO THE MATH ON MINUS 365. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, BUT THAT WAS FOR ALL OF OUR ACTIVITY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST ASKING. 
          ABBY, I'M CURIOUS, UM, HOW THINGS ARE GOING WITH WA WATER TOWER THEATER. 
          I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WE HAD LARGER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT FUNDING. 
          UH, SINCE THEN, I THINK THEY'VE HAD A CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN, I WAS AT, I MANAGED TO GET TO ONE SHOW THIS PAST SEASON. 
          I THINK THE QUALITY WAS GREAT. 
          ATTENDANCE WASN'T, SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU WHAT YOU THINK OF THE WATER TOWER THEATER. 
          IF WE SHOULD CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH, OR IF WE SHOULD MAYBE LOOK TO SOMETHING ELSE. 
          YEAH, I THINK THAT YOUR ASSESSMENT IS, IS, IS WHAT WE SAW. 
          UM, THE QUALITY OF THE WORK THAT THEY PRODUCE IS PHENOMENAL. 
          UM, THE ATTENDANCE, THE, THIS, THIS PAST SEASON FOR THEM WAS LIGHT, UM, ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          UM, THEY DO PRODUCE, UM, GREAT WORK, UM, FROM WHAT WE SEE. 
          UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TASKED WITH PUTTING SEAT PUT, FILLING THE SEATS AND, AND HAVING ACTIVITY THERE IN THIS SPACE. 
          AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT AND WE BALANCE SOME OF, ALL OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT DOES GIVE US ROOM, UM, TO, UH, SEEK OUT OTHER PARTNERS, UM, TO HELP US WITH THE SPACE IS REALLY, THAT'S MY THOUGHT IS WE STARTED WITH, WE WANT TO GET TO 150 LIT NIGHTS, RIGHT? BUT I THINK THE NEXT STEP IS WE NEED TO GET TO 150 NIGHTS WHERE WE'RE PROGRAMMING THINGS THAT PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO SEE. 
          'CAUSE THE IDEA BEHIND IT IS WE'RE INVITING PEOPLE INTO OUR TOWN, WE'RE GETTING 'EM HERE, WE'RE GETTING INTO THE RESTAURANTS, WE'RE GETTING 'EM TO SPEND MONEY. 
          SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DO THAT? HOW DO WE GET TO THE NEXT STEP? BECAUSE HAVING 55 NIGHTS WITH THE TENANT, THAT SUBPAR ISN'T REALLY GETTING US TO WHERE WE WANT TO BE. 
          AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WAS REALLY TRYING TO GET AT IS LIKE, HOW CAN WE CAPITALIZE ON EITHER GETTING MORE ATTENDANCE OR GETTING THOSE NUMBER OF PERFORM OR NUMBER OF DATES UP OR NIGHTS? YEAH. 
          BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY ARE A PROFESSIONAL THEATER COMPANY, AND I THINK WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL THEATER COMPANY. 
          I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE INTENT ISN'T WHAT IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST. 
          IS IT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GETTING THEIR FOLKS OUT THERE, OR THEY'RE NOT MARKETING, WE'RE NOT MARKETING? OR IS IT SOMETHING ELSE? COULD THERE BE ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL THEATER COMPANY THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH US? I WOULD, YOU KNOW, JUST ADD ONE POINT TO THE CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, FOR NEXT YEAR, YOU LOOK AT THE WATER TOWER, WHAT THEY'VE PROPOSED THAT FIRST, THEIR FIRST PERFORMANCE THEY'RE GONNA DO IS A, IS A MUSICAL PERFORMANCE OVER MULTIPLE DAYS. 
          AND SO, GIVEN THE WAY 
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THAT WENT LAST YEAR FOR FEWER DAYS, WE ARE CURIOUS HOW THAT IS GONNA WORK ON ATTENDANCE. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OPTIMISM THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE A BIG IMPROVEMENT ON THE ATTENDANCE, PARTICULARLY ON THE FIRST SHOW. 
          UM, NOW TO JCS CREDIT WITH WATER TOWER, HE'S INHERITING THIS AND HE'S TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, FIGURE IT OUT AND GO INTO THE NEXT YEAR. 
          BUT I THINK YOU'RE RAISING GOOD QUESTIONS. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE, AS STAFF CAN SAY, WE BELIEVE WATER TOWER HAS THIS FIXED, AND WE'RE GONNA SEE A HUGE, UH, ATTENDANCE INCREASE NEXT YEAR. 
          SO THESE ARE ISSUES, AND I THINK IT'S WORTH A GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THOSE ARE ALL REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS. 
          UH, I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE THE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO GO TO ABBEY OR TO DAVID, BUT TO THE WATER TOWER BOARD AND TO JC YEAH. 
          BUT I ALSO THINK WE HAVE A DECISION TO MAKE. 
          'CAUSE I, I FEEL LIKE THE QUESTIONS I WAS ASKING, WE ASKED THE SAME ONES LAST YEAR. 
          SO I HOPE THIS YEAR, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE GONNA GO FORWARD WITH THIS FUNDING THAT WE REALLY DO PAY ATTENTION TO, OR LIKE, AGAIN, GETTING TO 150 NIGHTS WAS THE GOAL. 
          AND I THINK YOU GUYS DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF GETTING THERE. 
          I DON'T THINK ANY OF US LAST YEAR THOUGHT WE'D REALLY GET TO ONE 50. 
          UM, BUT WE DID. 
          AND THAT'S AMAZING. 
          AND NOW IT'S, OKAY. 
          SO LET'S MAKE THOSE 150 NIGHTS REALLY COUNT. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT I HOPE WE WORK ON THIS YEAR. 
          I AGREE. 
          SO, SO DAVID, TO YOUR POINT WITH WHAT THEY'RE STARTING THE SEASON WITH THIS FALL, THAT'S LESS THAN THE ORIGINAL, UM, GRANT REQUEST. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, THEY ORIGINALLY, AND ABBY WILL CORRECT ME, THEY ORIGINALLY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO WONDERLAND AND THEN THEY SCALED THAT BACK AND ABBY CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE. 
          UM, YES SIR, THEY DID. 
          UM, INITIALLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ACTUAL FULL ON, UM, PERFORMANCE PRODUCTION. 
          UM, AND THEN DECIDED TO CHANGE THAT AND ALTER THAT. 
          AND, UM, IT'S BROADWAY BY NORTH TEXAS IS WHAT HAS REPLACED THEIR INITIAL PERFORMANCE. 
          UM, AND SO, UM, TO DAVID'S, UH, POINT, IT IS A MUSICAL. 
          IT, IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE, I THINK MAX THREE DAYS. 
          UM, DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT, BUT NOT, UM, THE FULL 13 DAY RUN LIKE A NORMAL PERFORMANCE WOULD BE. 
          UM, AND SO THAT IS KICKING OFF, UM, THIS NEXT SEASON FOR THEM. 
          BUT THEY HAVE, THEY ARE EXTENDING AND OFFERING THAT, UM, FOR 13 DAYS VERSUS THREE TO MEET THE LIT NIGHT CRITERIA. 
          WE HAVE A LIAISON WITH THEM THAT SITS ON THEIR BOARD A NON OKAY, GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO KEEP OUR EYE ON AS WE, AS WE GO FORWARD AND SEE HOW, WHAT THE, THE, THEIR PERFORMANCE LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, UNDER JCS LEADERSHIP. 
          'CAUSE HE'S THE, THE NEW PERMANENT GUY. 
          AND, UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION AROUND HERE FOR, FOR A LONG TIME. 
          AND, UH, WE NEED TO NEED TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION, MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THE RIGHT THING. 
          AND, UM, I'M SURE WE'LL NEVER GET A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREEMENT ON THAT. 
          DAN, MAYOR, WHEN YOU WERE IN THOSE, IN THE COMMITTEE MEETING, WHAT WAS THEIR OTHER FUNDING SOURCE? DID THEY HAVE FUNDRAISERS? WAS THERE PRIVATE DONORS? BEYOND OUR FUNDS, THEY GET, THEY GET A FEW OTHER GRANTS OF TACA AND, AND A COUPLE THEY APPLY FOR, I THINK THE SAME GRANTS EVERY YEAR. 
          PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW, THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE GRANTS OR SOMETHING THAT THEY APPLY FOR. 
          THEY DON'T ALWAYS GET THEM. 
          UM, BUT SOME, SO SOME, BUT SOMETIMES THEY DO AND THEY GET SOME PRIVATE DONATIONS. 
          UM, I DON'T, AND THAT, AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S BEEN PART OF OUR CONVERSATION TOO, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T SEEN EVIDENCE OF A LOT OF REALLY GREAT OUTREACH AND FUNDRAISING AND DOING THINGS TO, TO, TO, TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THEIR FOLD AND, UH, OR, OR THAT THEIR BOARD IS DOING PARTICULAR THINGS THAT, THAT COULD HELP ELEVATE THEM AS WELL. 
          SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINITELY BEEN A PART OF THE CONVER IT'S BEEN A PART OF THE CONVERSATION FOR A DOZEN YEARS THAT I KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M JUST WONDERING HOW MUCH OF THE, THE BLOOM LEFT WHEN SHANE LEFT VERSUS WHEN JC CAME IN. 
          I'M JUST WONDERING IF HE TOOK AN AUDIENCE WITH HIM. 
          THAT'S WHY THE, THE SEATS WEREN'T FILLED, LET'S CALL IT. 
          WELL, SHANE WENT TO GEORGIA, SO I DON'T THINK THAT AUDIENCE FOLLOWED HIM TO GEORGIA . 
          I, I THINK JUST, I, I THINK THE PERFORMANCE IS, THE ATTENDANCE ISSUES WERE NOT, THEY WERE HAPPENING WHILE SHANE WAS, WAS THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I MEAN, I, I, I, I KIND OF VAGUELY REMEMBER MARLON TELLING ME ABOUT THE YEAH. 
          THE ATTENDANCES. 
          BUT THANK YOU ABBY AND NICOLE FOR THE, FOR THE LIT NIGHTS, BECAUSE THAT WAS OUR BIGGEST GOAL WAS GET PEOPLE IN THE BUILDINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY GOOD GETTING US DOWN THE PATH, THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          JUST ONE, ONE LAST QUESTION. 
          OH, GO AHEAD, SEAN. 
          ONE LAST QUESTION, ABBY. 
          SO TALKING ABOUT LIT NIGHTS, IS THERE ANY OTHER PRODUCTION COMPANY OR ANY OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMING IN AND GIVING US THOSE LIT NIGHTS THAT YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT? YES. 
          SO NICOLE AND TEAM ARE VERY, UM, FOCUSED ON DIVERSIFYING OUR PROGRAMMING OFFERING SO THAT WE CAN FILL THE FACILITY WITH, UM, THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO ACTUALLY COME AND SEE. 
          UM, PEGASUS THEATER CAME ON 
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BOARD LAST YEAR, UM, AND THEY ACTUALLY COME TO THE TABLE WITH I THINK OVER 90 LIT NIGHTS, UM, WITH US. 
          OUR AGREEMENT WITH THEM THOUGH, IS SUCH THAT, UM, WE, UM, WE DON'T ACTUALLY PAY THEM OR OFFER THEM ANY GRANT FUNDING. 
          THEY ACTUALLY DON'T APPLY FOR ANY GRANT FUNDING. 
          UM, AND THEN WE DO A REV SHARE WITH THE TICKET SALES THAT THEY BRING IN. 
          SO IT'S, AND THAT, AND THAT'S, I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT STORY AND IT, AGAIN, A TESTAMENT TO NICOLE GOING OUT THERE, BUT THAT'S, AND IT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT, RIGHT? WE WANT FOLKS WHO ARE GONNA COME HERE, FILL THE, FILL THE, FILL IT UP, OR WE'RE NOT PAYING THEM. 
          THEY'RE PAYING US. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S THE PERFECT, UM, EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS WE'RE TRYING TO GET FOLKS IN THE THEATER YEAH. 
          THE GROUPS THAT ALREADY HAVE A FOLLOWING IN AN AUDIENCE. 
          WONDERFUL STORY TO TELL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          THERE. 
          SO BRUCE JUST SAID, WE, WE'VE SEEN THAT FOR A DOZEN YEARS, AND I'VE SEEN IT WITH WATER TOWER, YOU KNOW, AFTER COVID. 
          IT'S REALLY HARD TO GAUGE THAT. 
          UM, BUT, UM, I THINK WE NEED, NEED TO TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK IF IS, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT PARTNER, LONG TERM AT LEAST, OR FOR SURE PUT ATTENDANCE METRICS ON ON THEM, OR REQUIREMENTS ON THEM AS FAR AS PUTTING, BRINGING PEOPLE IN. 
          'CAUSE HAVING 13 NIGHTS OF, UH, BROADWAY BY NORTHWEST OR SOUTHWEST, WHATEVER IT IS, FOR 13 NIGHTS AS OPPOSED TO THREE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE EIGHT PEOPLE AT EACH, YOU KNOW, ATTENDANCE. 
          YOU'VE GOTTA, I THINK IF WE WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT PERFORMANCE, YOU KNOW, AT THE OUTCOMES INSTEAD OF $318,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY. 
          AND THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANOTHER, UM, MUNICIPALITY IN NORTH TEXAS THAT, THAT GRANTS THAT MUCH TO AN INDIVIDUAL, TO A, UM, UH, THEATER COMPANY. 
          I, I'VE, I'VE LOOKED IT UP. 
          I COULDN'T FIND IT, UH, THAT THERE WAS ONE. 
          SO IT'S, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT THIS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE BEEN, I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN INCREMENTALLY, IT'S JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LOSE THAT, UH, VISIBILITY ON THERE. 
          'CAUSE NEXT YEAR, I DON'T WANNA BE SAYING THE SAME THING AGAIN. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, 'CAUSE YOU, YOU DIE A SLOW DEATH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND NO, AND I AGREE, DARREN, WE, YOU, WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION BRIEFLY DURING THE, UH, COMMITTEE. 
          YOU PROBABLY SAW IN THE VIDEO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT TO TRY TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT SHORT, LITTLE, LITTLE, A LITTLE TOO SHORT NOTICE, UH, FOR THEM TO TRY TO, UH, PUT IN PLACE FOR THIS YEAR. 
          BUT WE PROBABLY SHOULD START HAVING THAT CONVERSATION SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. 
          I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT NEXT YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          LIKE TO HAVE THAT, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING AND EXPECT HALF OF THIS FUNDING NEXT YEAR IF YOU DON'T DELIVER THIS YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK YOU GOTTA GET REAL ABOUT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          WE GOT COMPANY, BUT IT'S, WE'VE GOTTA BE REAL TO OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR RESIDENTS TO THE VITALITY OF OUR TOWN. 
          THIS IS A HUGE ASSET THAT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SEEING GREAT, UH, RESULTS FROM. 
          AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU NICOLE. 
          ABBY'S. 
          UM, WE'RE JUST GONNA BE, WE'RE WE'RE SQUANDERING YEAH. 
          $300,000 MARLEY. 
          OH, NO, I JUST WANT TO ADD, ADD SOME COMMENTS, UM, FROM THE COMMITTEE STANDPOINT AND ALSO THE LIAISON STANDPOINT. 
          SO I THINK, UM, FROM WATER TOWER STANDPOINT, I THINK THEY WERE TWO YEARS AGO, WE WERE PAYING THEM MAYBE 360,000, IF I RECALL, IN, IN CASH. 
          NON-G GIFT IN KINDS. 
          SOUNDS RIGHT. 
          I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. 
          AND THEN WE CUT 'EM, CUT 'EM DOWN TO THREE 40, AND NOW WE'RE BELOW THREE 20. 
          SO THOSE ARE MASSIVE. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE MASSIVE CUTS FOR THEM. 
          I MEAN, I CAN, I CAN TELL THEY'RE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY SHAKING STUFF UP. 
          AND, UM, I AM, I AM REALLY IMPRESSED WITH JC AND I'M, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF HIM. 
          UM, UM, I'VE, I'VE SHARED WITH HIM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND, AND TALK ABOUT, UM, IF I CAN HELP, UM, SOME IN SOME WAY WITH FUNDRAISING. 
          UM, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS I'VE LEARNED OVER THE YEARS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ADDISON LEGACY FOUNDATION. 
          WE DID SOME SERIOUS FUNDRAISING AND HOW TO GO ABOUT THAT. 
          SO THEY'RE DOING IT. 
          UM, BUT I'M NOT CERTAIN THEY, THEY REALLY, UM, KNOW THE, LIKE A COMPLETE PROSPECT LIST THAT THEY MIGHT, MIGHT FOCUS ON. 
          UM, SO I, UH, I'M EXCITED ABOUT HIM. 
          YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS HE SHARED IS, UM, UM, IS LET'S DO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR ART IN ADDISON. 
          'CAUSE THEY WERE, THEY WERE DOING SOME STUFF IN PLANO. 
          UM, AND, AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE EASY. 
          YOU KNOW, LIKE OUTCRY THEATER, THEY GET 40 SOMETHING THOUSAND FROM THE CITY OF PLANO AND THEY DO HALF OR WHATEVER IN PLANO, AND THEY DO A LITTLE, THEY DO SOME HERE AND THEY DO SOME, UH, IN ANOTHER CITY. 
          SO I WOULD LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN'T KEEP WATER TOWER A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR ART HERE, AND THEN, SO WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS DEEP DIVE, LIKE, LIKE DARREN, YOU'RE ALLUDING TO, AND I'M, I'M SUGGESTING WE DO THAT, THIS IS NOT, IT THI THIS, THIS IS NOT LIKE WATER TOWER THEATER 
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AND PEGASUS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES. 
          CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES DOING PROFESSIONAL THEATER. 
          CORRECT. 
          I MEAN, WHERE THEY'RE PAID. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS A LOT YOUNGER, YOUNGER AUDIENCE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT LIKE PAYING FOR THE ARTISTS. 
          SO, SO WHEN WE DO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE LIKE, HEY, THERE'S WATER TOWER THEATER, THERE'S PEGASUS, THERE'S SOME OTHER PROFESSIONAL, PROFESSIONAL ARTS GROUPS. 
          BUT, BUT I HOPE WE ALL CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS LIST. 
          WATER TOWER THEATER IS THE ONLY PROFESSIONAL PERFORMING ARTS ORGANIZATION. 
          YEAH, I GOT THAT. 
          SO PEGASUS IS PROFESSIONAL TOO, RIGHT? AND HOW MUCH DO WE FUND THEM? UH, ZERO. 
          HOW MUCH DO THEY SUPPLEMENT? THEY SHARE WITH US. 
          THEY DO A REV SHARE WITH, UM, THEIR TICKET SELL. 
          SO WHEN THEY SELL OUT, WE GET A, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY SELL. 
          WHATEVER THEY SELL, WE TAKE UP. 
          I'M REAL POSITIVE WITH JC ALSO, I WANT HIM, BUT THERE'S ONLY SO LONG WE CAN WAIT FOR SOMETHING TO TAKE OFF. 
          THAT'S PART OF MY POINT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND ONE, YOU KNOW, THE, JUST ANOTHER THOUGHT THAT I HOPE WE'LL KEEP IN MIND IS, UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROFESSIONAL, UM, MORE PROFESSIONAL ART, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A HIGHER TICKET TICKET PRICE. 
          AND SO FOR WATER TOWER THEATER, THAT'S LIKE $38. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS FOR PEGASUS. 
          IT, IT MAY BE CLOSE, BUT I, I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A CORRELATION. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY'S COMING IN TO PAY FOR 38, $40 TICKET, THEY'RE MORE INCLINED TO, TO HAVE A, A HIGHER, UH, PRICE TICKET MAYBE WHEN THEY GO OUT TO DINNER THAN, THAN SOMEBODY THAT MIGHT BE, UH, GOING TO THE OUTCRY THEATER, UH, PRODUCTIONS. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S MORE OF A FAMILY ORIENTED. 
          SO THERE IS A CORRELATION TO THAT. 
          AND I HOPE WE'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND. 
          BUT I DO THINK I DO, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, THAT DEEP DIVE. 
          BUT, BUT WE, UH, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO BE CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT HOW WE THINK ABOUT IT. 
          BUT, BUT, UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THEM IN ADDISON. 
          I'D LIKE TO KEEP MORE ATTENDEES COMING TO ADDISON PAYING $40 A TICKET. 
          SO WE NEED, YEAH, WE NEED THAT. 
          WE NEED THAT. 
          SO WE NEED TO SEE WHERE THE COUNCIL IS AS FAR AS THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THIS, UH, FROM THE, FROM THE COMMITTEE, UM, COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, A, UH, REQUIREMENTS ON ATTENDANCE AS WELL FOR NEXT YEAR, FOR THIS YEAR, UM, FOR THIS YEAR. 
          WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THIS YEAR. 
          'CAUSE WE REALLY CAN'T TIE IT NECESSARILY TO THE FUNDING. 
          I WOULD GO FOR THE FUNDING FOR THIS YEAR, BUT I DEFINITELY WANNA SEE THE ATTENDANCE. 
          WE'RE GONNA, WE ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT MORE LATER ON. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA DO IT IN THIS BUDGET. 
          I'M GOOD HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M, I'M GOOD WITH IT. 
          AND DARREN, TO YOUR POINT, UM, THERE'S SOMETHING, UM, I HEAVILY BELIEVE IN THE ATTENDANCE, BUT THE OTHER FACTOR I WOULD, I WOULD ASK, ASK FOR US TO THINK ABOUT GOING FORWARD IS THE, THE, UH, THE ATTENDANCE AND THEN THE PRICE PER TICKET. 
          THERE'S A CORRELATION THERE BETWEEN THAT AND SPENDING AND, AND SPENDING CERTAIN AMOUNTS OF MONEY, UM, IN ADDISON. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THERE'S SOME OTHER ASPECTS OF, OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH THEM THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS AS WELL GOING FORWARD. 
          SO WE CAN DO ALL THAT AT THE SAME TIME. 
          YOU GUYS GOOD WITH WHAT WE HAVE HERE? WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS, WITH THIS FUNDING AT THIS IS ALREADY LOCKED AND LOADED AND COMMITTED TO THE, TO THEM. 
          I'D ONLY ASKED ABBY THAT WHEN YOU'RE COMMUNICATING WITH JC BACK TO, UM, WHAT BRUCE AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT ARE THEY DOING FROM A MARKETING PERSPECTIVE TO GET THEIR NAME OUT OR THEIR PERFORMANCES OUT? WHAT NEW THINGS HAVE THEY APPROACH? THAT'S ALL I'D ASK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, VERY GOOD. 
          YOU GOT WHAT YOU NEED ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU, ABBY. 
          YOU WELCOME. 
          . 
          WELL, ABBY'S NOT GONNA GO TOO FAR, SO SHE'S GONNA COME RIGHT BACK UP AND TALK ABOUT HER TWO DECISION PACKAGES, UH, WITH THE ANNUAL TREE PARK LIGHTING AND A, UH, TASTE AROUND THE WORLD, UH, EVENT. 
          SO, AND THEN BILL IS GONNA COME UP AND TALK ABOUT FOUR, UH, POTENTIAL, UH, UH, PROJECTS OVER AT THE ADDISON. 
          UM, AND, UH, SO, SO WE'LL GO WITH ABBY AND THEN, UH, BILL WILL COME UP. 
          I'M BACK. 
          ABBY MORALES, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEATER. 
          UM, BEFORE I KICK US INTO THE HOLIDAY SEASON, I'M GONNA ASK A, A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          I'M GONNA ASK THAT YOU CLEAR YOUR MIND OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE HERE AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK AROUND A TREE LIGHTING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          WHAT I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT IS THE POTENTIAL OF THE MAGIC OF THE HOLIDAY SEASON. 
          AND I WANT YOU TO KIND OF HONE IN ON LIGHTING UP THE PARK. 
          A TREE WILL BE PART OF THAT, BUT I KIND OF WANNA RESET EVERYBODY'S MIND TO THAT. 
          IT WAS A LITTLE CHILLY EARLIER, SO IT FELT LIKE THE HOLIDAYS IN HERE. 
          SO TO WHOEVER DID THAT, THANK YOU. 
          UM, OUR KEY, OUR COUNCIL KEY FOCUS AREA IS A VIBRANT, ACTIVE, AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY. 
          AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING TO TRANSFORM WHAT WE KNOW IS THE ANNUAL TREE LIGHTING TO A PARK LIGHTING FOR THE ENTIRE MONTH OF DECEMBER. 
          UM, WE'D LIKE TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES, UM, THAT EXIST IN AND AROUND SOME OF THE HOLIDAY OFFERINGS 
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THAT WE HAVE AS WELL. 
          AND SO THIS BREAKS UP ADDISON CIRCLE PARK INTO ZONES, IF YOU WILL. 
          THIS IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A CONCEPTUAL, UM, PIECE. 
          AND THEN ALSO KEEP IN MIND, ANYTHING THAT I SHOW YOU IS NOT SET IN STONE. 
          THE IDEA IS THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PHASE IN WHATEVER IT IS WE DECIDE THE HOLIDAYS TO LOOK LIKE. 
          WE CAN ADD, WE CAN MODIFY, WE CAN DELETE, WE CAN DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU A VISUAL OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE. 
          AND SO ZONE ONE IS WHAT WE CONSIDER THE ELLIPSE AREA. 
          WE COULD LIGHT UP THE TREES THERE. 
          WE'D LOVE TO PUT A HUNDRED FOOT TREE ON THE PLATFORM THERE. 
          UM, THAT WOULD LOOK BEAUTIFUL, NOT ONLY AT NIGHT WHEN IT'S LIT UP, BUT IN DURING THE DAYTIME AS WELL. 
          AS WE GO INTO ZONE TWO, THINK ABOUT DRIVING DOWN ADDISON ROAD. 
          THERE'S A SEA OF LIGHTS ALONG THE FENCE. 
          THERE'S AN OPENING THAT LETS YOU KNOW THAT BEHIND THIS FENCE, THERE'S A WINTER WONDERLAND WAITING FOR YOU TO ENJOY THE LIGHTS ON ADDISON CIRCLE ROAD. 
          COULD LIGHT UP THE TREES. 
          WHAT WOULD, WHICH COULD BE AN EXTENSION OF WHAT MAA DOES ALREADY ON QUORUM SO THAT YOU HAVE THE CONTINUOUS LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE CIRCLE DISTRICT ZONE THREE IS OUR PERGOLA OPPORTUNITIES TO PROGRAM OUT, LIGHT UP THAT PERGOLA AND PERHAPS BE AN AREA WHERE WE COULD MAKE IT SNOW EVERY SO OFTEN. 
          ZONE FOUR HAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ADD SOME ORNAMENTS. 
          THEY COULD BE BRANDED ORNAMENTS SO THAT YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT AND YOU DON'T MISTAKE YOURSELF FOR BEING IN THE NORTH POLE. 
          ZONE FIVE. 
          THINK ABOUT LARGE SCALE ACTIVATIONS THAT ARE THERE ON THE GROUNDS. 
          UM, THINK ABOUT US ACTIVATING TO WHAT IS THERE CURRENTLY IN THE PHOTO YOU SEE STARS. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE STARS, BUT WE WOULD COORDINATE THE ACTIVATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO TIE IN TO THE LIGHTS AND THE SCENERY THAT WERE THERE. 
          SAME CONCEPT IN THE BOWL AREA. 
          IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, AGAIN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS, BUT WE COULD COORDINATE THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND THEN WHEN THERE WEREN'T ACTUAL PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES, YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING STANDALONE THAT YOU COULD WALK THROUGH THE PARK AND ENJOY. 
          THEY COULD BE LETTERS. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, LIFE SIZE. 
          THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS. 
          SO WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT IT HAS TO BE, BUT WHAT IT COULD BE, WE COULD DECIDE TO DO ALL LETTERS SO THAT WE'RE TELLING A STORY THROUGHOUT THE PARK. 
          YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THE TREE THAT WE CURRENTLY LIGHT UP, UM, THAT WE HAVE LIT UP FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. 
          UM, AGAIN, IT SITS ON THE PLAZA AND WE WOULD LIGHT THAT UP AS WELL. 
          WHEN WE COME ACROSS TO THE NORTH CAMPUS WITH TOWN HALL NOW BEING HOUSED HERE, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE LIGHT UP THIS SPACE AS WELL. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL ACTUAL ORNAMENTS AND LIGHTS THAT YOU PHYSICALLY PLUG IN. 
          WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT PROJECTION OPPORTUNITIES ON OUR BUILDING AND WE COULD CUSTOMIZE THAT TO FIT OUR NEEDS. 
          IN ADDITION TO THIS, THIS WOULD HELP COMPLIMENT THE ACTIVITY THAT'S HAPPENING AT THE ADDISON AS A PART OF OUR DECEMBER AT THE ADDISON PROGRAMMING. 
          WE WOULD ALSO DO, UM, A PROJECTION THAT WOULD CREATE A LIGHT SHOW THAT WE WOULD ACTIVATE AND OFFER THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF DECEMBER, UM, AS ANCILLARY PROGRAMMING AS WELL. 
          AND THEN BECAUSE OUR TEAM LIKES TO BE EXTRA, WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT OFFERING A DRONE SHOW AS WE LIGHT UP THE PARK, UM, AS PART OF THE FESTIVITIES, UM, AND ANNUAL OFFERINGS THAT WE HOST HERE AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK. 
          THE CONCEPT IS THAT WE WOULD DRIVE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK AS A HOLIDAY DESTINATION, NOT JUST FOR A WEEKEND, NOT JUST FOR A DAY, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE MONTH OF DECEMBER. 
          WE WANT TO ENHANCE WHAT VITRUVIAN LIGHTS DOES SO SUCCESSFULLY AND REALLY CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GUESTS TO CREATE A WEEKEND HERE IN ADDISON. 
          YOU WOULD HAVE DINNER AND ENJOY VITRUVIAN LIGHTS ONE NIGHT, AND THEN THE NEXT NIGHT YOU WOULD ENJOY DINNER AGAIN AND COME TO ADDISON CIRCLE PARK AND BE A PART OF THE FESTIVITIES HERE. 
          WE COULD PARTNER WITH OUR RESTAURANTS TO WHERE YOU DID DINNER AND LIGHTS. 
          WE COULD ALSO STACK OUR PROGRAMMING AGAIN TO BUILD OFF OF WHAT THE ADDISON IS OFFERING AS PART OF THEIR DECEMBER AT THE ADDISON, UM, OFFERINGS, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE EXPENSES, UM, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          UM, THE TREE LIGHTING THAT HAS BEEN OFFERED THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. 
          WE'RE LOOKING TO, BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING TO IMPACT OUR RESTAURANTS, OUR HOTELS, AND MAKING FULL WEEKENDS OUT OF THIS, WE ARE LOOKING TO THE HOTEL FUND, UM, TO ENHANCE WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING. 
          SO YOU SEE THAT THERE. 
          THERE'S ALSO REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WOULD BE TIED TO THE WAY THAT WE DO THIS. 
          CARRIAGE RIDES WOULD RETURN. 
          THERE IS AN EXPENSE FOR CARRIAGE RIDES, BUT THERE'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE REVENUE AROUND THAT. 
          UM, WE WOULD OFFER FOOD AND BEVERAGE, UM, DURING SELECT TIMES. 
          THERE'S SPONSORSHIP, UM, OPPORTUNITIES, UM, AND THEN MISCELLANEOUS ACTIVATIONS THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO TO HELP DRIVE REVENUE AS WELL. 
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AND JUST REMEMBER SANTA'S WATCHING AND JUST . 
          I MAYBE SO A LITTLE CONTEXT. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN WE STARTED THE, UM, TWO YEARS AGO NOW WHEN WE HAD THE FIRST CONVERSATION ABOUT DOING MORE FOR CHRISTMAS AND HAVING THE CHRISTMAS TREE, UH, DOWN HERE AND HAVING THE LIGHTING. 
          UM, SO, UM, FESTIVAL THAT WAS ACTUALLY A PARKS PROJECT AND PARKS AROUND WITH THAT AS SPECIAL EVENTS WAS FOCUSED ON, UM, THE OTHER EVENTS. 
          SO HEADING INTO THIS BUDGET YEAR AND HEADING INTO THIS YEAR AFTER LAST YEAR'S EVENT, I ASKED ABBY AND SPECIAL EVENTS TO TAKE IT ON AND TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE COULD ENHANCE IT. 
          SO THESE ARE A LOT OF IDEAS. 
          IT IS A, A LOT OF MONEY TOO. 
          SO REALLY THIS CONVERSATION IS, AS ABBY SAID, WE'RE JUST KIND OF OPENING THIS UP FOR A CONVERSATION OF WHERE DO YOU ALL SEE THAT GOING AND, UM, WHAT MAKES SENSE. 
          SO THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU ABBY. 
          AND, UH, I REALLY LOVE WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THIS. 
          AND, UH, I ALWAYS ENJOY YOUR PRESENTATION 'CAUSE YOUR CREATIVITY IS SO FAR OUT OF MY, THE, THE WAY MY BRAIN WORKS. 
          AND, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY GREAT. 
          LAST YEAR I HAD THE, UH, IN DECEMBER I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER TO, I TOOK THE TRAIN OVER TO, UH, GRAPEVINE, DOWNTOWN GRAPEVINE FOR THEIR CHRISTMAS CITY OR WHATEVER THEY CALL THAT EVENT OVER THERE. 
          IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN OVER THERE, IT'S REALLY QUITE A, QUITE A SPECTACULAR THING. 
          UH, TOOK THE TRAIN OVER, THE TRAIN DROPS OFF RIGHT THERE. 
          THEY ACTUALLY CLOSED OFF MAIN STREET DOWNTOWN FOR THIS EVENT. 
          LIKE THEY DO THEIR OTHER EVENTS. 
          UH, BUT JUST, JUST TONS OF PEOPLE COMING IN ON THE TRAIN, DRIVING IN, WALKING, ENJOYING THE LIGHTS AND THE, AND THE SITES AND EVERYTHING. 
          AND I REALLY SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE AS SOMETHING THAT THAT COULD DEVELOP INTO AT SOME POINT. 
          AND, AND YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WHEN WE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND, AND I SAW WHAT WE WERE DOING AND, AND I REALLY WANTED TO SEE IS REALLY TAKE, TAKE IN THE WHOLE PARK AND NOT JUST THE, THE TREE LIGHTING, THE TREE LAGS ALWAYS BEEN FUN, BUT CAN WE DO IT BIGGER AND BETTER? SO I REALLY LIKE WHAT, WHAT, UH, THE DIRECTION YOU'RE GOING HERE WITH THIS. 
          SO REALLY NICE WORK. 
          NEL, I BELIEVE I SAW YOUR LIFE FIRST. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO ABBY, UM, I DON'T LIKE THIS. 
          I LOVE IT. 
          . 
          UM, WHAT IT KIND OF REMINDS ME OF IS USUALLY I GO DOWN TO HOLLAND PARK, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ALL THE LIGHTS AND I JUST USE IT AS ALL MY PHOTO OPS AND TAKE PICTURES AND EVERYTHING. 
          SO AS BRUCE SAID, I THINK THIS COULD BE THE NEXT LIKE HOW HOLLAND PARK LIGHTS UP HOLLAND PARK. 
          I LOVE THAT. 
          THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS, UM, I THINK, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT SLIDE IT WAS ON. 
          YOU SHOWED LIKE, I THINK IT WAS NUMBER FOUR WHEN YOU WERE PUSHING THE BUTTONS. 
          UH, E FOUR. 
          SO AS YOU'RE GETTING TO THAT, MY QUESTION WAS, WOULD WE OWN THOSE? 'CAUSE YOU SAID WE CAN CUSTOMIZE THE, UM, LET'S SEE. 
          IT'S GONNA BE THE, THE ORNAMENT THAT SAYS ADDISON. 
          YES. 
          WE COULD CUSTOMIZE THE, THE ORNAMENTS. 
          SO WE WOULD BUY THOSE AND JUST YES, MA'AM. 
          STORE MAAM. 
          ANYTHING THAT'S, UM, CUSTOM WE WOULD OWN MM-HMM . 
          UM, BECAUSE STORAGE WOULD BECOME AN ISSUE IN WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. 
          WE WOULD LOOK AT, UM, POSSIBLY STORAGE, UM, OR LOOKING AT OPTIONS, UM, TO STORE AND PAY FOR STORAGE. 
          YES. 
          AND PLEASE ADD SO THE DOGGIES CAN TAKE PICTURES. 
          THANK YOU CHRIS. 
          HEY ABBY, I APPRECIATE ALL THIS 'CAUSE I LIKE IT WHEN YOU THINK BIG AND I THINK BETWEEN WHAT WE DO AT VITRUVIAN AND WHAT WE COULD POSSIBLY BE DOING AT THE PARK, YOU KNOW, REALLY WILL PUT US ON THE MAP TO BEING THE PLACE TO GO IF YOU WANNA CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS OR PHOTO OPS OR GET YOUR FAMILY OUT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          SO FIRST OF ALL, ARE THE CARRIAGE RIDES WORKING, RIGHT? LIKE, IS IT, IS IT WORTH OUR TIME? ARE WE DOING ENOUGH BUSINESS THAT WE SHOULD EVEN CONTINUE IT? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE SEEN THAT MANY PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. 
          AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, THE EMAILS THAT WE GET ABOUT WHAT WE ALL KNOW. 
          SO WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? I'M GONNA ASK FINANCE TO HOLD ME HONEST ON THIS, BUT I THINK THAT WE WERE CLOSE TO BREAKING EVEN ON EXPENSE AND REVENUE FROM LAST YEAR. 
          UM, WHAT I DO, WHAT I DO KNOW IS AS I'VE TALKED TO THE TEAM ABOUT CARRIAGE RIDES AND THEIR IMPACT HERE, I THINK THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES AROUND THAT. 
          SHOULD WE DECIDE TO BRING THOSE BACK, UM, WITH THE REVENUE AND THE EXPENSE BEING, UM, SOMEWHAT NEUTRAL. 
          UM, I THINK THAT IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT. 
          UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS AROUND IS THE ROUTE, UM, CHANEL MENTIONS ISLAND PARK AND THE CARRIAGE RIDES THERE TAKE YOU THROUGH NOTHING BUT LIGHTS. 
          AND SO EVALUATING THE ROUTE THAT WE TAKE AND WHETHER OR NOT, UM, THAT COULD HELP US MARKET AND PROMOTE, I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO STACK OUR PROGRAMMING. 
          AND SO IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HOSTING AT, UM, THE ADDISON AS PART OF OUR DECEMBER OFFERINGS AND IT INCLUDES A CARRIAGE RIDE. 
          IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT, UM, THE MARKETING TEAM DID WHEN WE HOSTED KICK 
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IT WITH THE WORLD CUP AND REALLY HONING IN ON OUR CIRCLE DISTRICT RESTAURANTS AND SAYING YOU IT'S DINNER AND A CARRIAGE RIDE AND MARKETING AND PROMOTING THAT WAY. 
          I DO THINK THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES, UM, AROUND THAT. 
          UM, BUT WE WOULD DO A DEEP DIVE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD OFFER THAT AS PART OF THE ACTIVITIES. 
          'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF IT REALLY HURT MY FEELINGS IF WE LOST THE CARRIAGE RIDES, BUT IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THEY'RE BREAKING EVEN OR, OR YOU KNOW, THEY ARE GETTING SOME USAGE, THEN YOU COULD PROBABLY TALK ME OUT OF IT. 
          UM, I REMEMBER WHEN WE DID JUST THE TREE, I WAS REALLY SURPRISED. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW WE SAID WE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO REFRESH MY MEMORY, WE'RE LEASING IT 'CAUSE WE HAD A THIRD PARTY COME IN AND THEY'VE GOT THE ABILITY TO STORE IT. 
          AND I REMEMBER THAT WAS PRETTY EXPENSIVE. 
          AND IF WE'RE GONNA LIGHT THE WHOLE PARK UP AND, AND DO SOME OF THESE CUSTOMIZED THINGS, IT IS TWO 50 REALLY GONNA GET US THERE. 
          TWO 50 WOULD BE OUR, OUR OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF PHASE INTO IT. 
          UM, ALL IN WHAT I PRESENTED IS PROBABLY A LOT 1.4 MILLION. 
          OKAY. 
           SANTA'S WATCHING. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN, UM, THAT, THAT FOLLOWS RIGHT INTO, I THINK, I THINK IT'S SUCH A, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO SPONSOR LIKE NOT AT THE $10,000 LEVEL, BUT LIKE AT THE $250,000 LEVEL, LIKE THE YOU NAME THE COMPANY PRESENTS CHRISTMAS AND ADDISON. 
          SO I HOPE THAT WE'LL WE'LL PURSUE SPONSORSHIP AT A HIGHER LEVEL IF WE DECIDE TO GO THIS WAY. 
          YES SIR. 
          UM, AND THEN MY LAST THOUGHT IS MMA, HOW ARE THEY PARTICIPATING VERSUS WHAT, UM, WE'RE MAKING? I THINK IT'S STILL UDR DO AT VITRUVIAN. 
          WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? UM, SO UDR TAKES OVER THE PROPERTY AND THEN THEY LIGHT UP ALL OF THE TREES, UM, AS PART OF THE TRIVIAN LIGHT. 
          MAA FROM WHAT I DO KNOW, UM, IS THAT THEY LIGHT UP THE TREES ON QUORUM AS PART OF THAT. 
          IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY USED TO HOST THE TREE LIGHTING AT BECKER PARK. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SOMEONE THAT MIGHT KNOW DIFFERENTLY OR, OR KNOW HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COULD SPEAK TO THAT. 
          UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH MAA. 
          EXACTLY. 
          UM, AND REALLY ENHANCE WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATIONS ALREADY WITH M AA AND THE TOWN AS FAR AS THEIR PLANS AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO THIS YEAR. 
          AND SO DEPENDING ON WHAT, UM, YOU DECIDE ON HOW WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PLANNING AS WELL. 
          YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          IF WE'RE GONNA OPEN THIS UP EVEN BIGGER, MAYBE TRY TO GET THEM TO PARTICIPATE AT A HIGHER LEVEL OR COLLABORATE MORE OR SOMETHING. 
          YES SIR. 
          THANK YOU DAN. 
          THANK YOU ABBY. 
          GREAT. 
          BEAUTIFUL PRESENTATION AGAIN. 
          YOU ALWAYS BLOW OUR MINDS. 
          UM, JUST THINKING OUT LOUD, BACK TO CHANEL'S PART ABOUT WHAT MAKES HIGHLAND PARK SO SPECIAL, 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE AS WELL OVER THE YEARS AND THEN LOOKING AT WHAT UDR DOES, WHICH IS EQUALLY AS SPECIAL, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE COMPONENTS THAT I STILL HAVE STRUGGLED WITH. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHY TASTE STRUGGLED WAS THE SHOPPING IN RESTAURANTING PART OF ADDISON CIRCLE PARK. 
          NOW THE RESTAURATEURS IN THE CIRCLE. 
          SO HOW DO YOU SORT OF DRAG OR INCORPORATE THEM IN FURTHER 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA PACK UP THEIR SHOPS AND MOVE IN FOR THE MONTH, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          SO COULD THIS MINIATURIZED PRESENTATION SHRUNK DOWN, BE SPRUNG OUT THROUGH BECKER PARK THROUGHOUT THE CIRCLE INSTEAD OF IT BEING JUST AT ADDISON CIRCLE? BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE GONNA DRAW PEOPLE TO WALK OR CYCLE THROUGH ADDISON CIRCLE INSTEAD OF IT JUST BEING RIGHT HERE AT OUR PARK. 
          WAS THE FIRST THOUGHT THAT CAME TO MIND FOR ME. 
          THE, THE NEXT BIG ONE FOR ME, THINKING LIKE CHRIS IS THINKING, I HAD DART IN MIND, I HAD ENCORE IN MIND. 
          I HAD AM IN MIND MAJOR HUB BUSINESSES TO BUY NAMING RIGHTS TO THE OVERALL EVENT FOR SPONSORSHIPS. 
          'CAUSE YOU'RE, WE DO NEED SOME HELP THAT IT'S A BIG NUMBER TO DO. 
          EVEN IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT HALF THE ALL IN WOULD STILL BE 700,000. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS THAT I HAVE BECAUSE WITHOUT, IF YOU'RE GONNA TRY AND DO A MONTH LONG, THREE WEEK LONG THEORY WITH PEOPLE TRAVELING ON VACATIONS COMING AND GOING. 
          AND I, MY OTHER QUESTION IS DO WE STILL FUND THE UDR R IS THAT STILL A CHECK? WE WRITE EVERY SINGLE YEAR. 
          AND THAT'S A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT, DAVID, THAT WE HAVE FOR 10 MORE YEARS OR ONE MORE YEAR? OR IS IT ANNUALLY? IT'S IT'S IN THE BUDGET AND IT'S IN THE BASELINE BUDGET. 
          WE DIDN'T BRING IT UP FOR A DECISION PACKAGE OR ANYTHING THAT, THAT IS STILL IN THE BUDGET THE SAME AMOUNT AS LAST YEAR. 
          BUT IT'S NOT A MULTI-YEAR AGREEMENT WITH UDR. 
          NO. 
          IT, IT WOULD BE AN ANNUAL DECISION FROM. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I, BECAUSE AGAIN, BACK TO THE, THE FUNDING SOURCE, THEY DON'T HAVE RESTAURANTS. 
          THEY DO, AGAIN, SAME WAY UDR HAS SOME RESTAURANTS IN SOME BARS, BUT THEY'RE NOT DRAGGED INTO THAT PLAZA. 
          THEY HAVE OUTSIDE VENDORS THAT COME IN SPORADICALLY FOR THOSE WEEKS. 
          SO THE FOOD TRUCKS THAT COME IN, FOOD TRUCKS. 
          SO I, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE GET THE FOOD AND THE SHOPPING? YOU CAN'T DO IT FOR THREE WEEKS IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER. 
          I THINK IT'S GOT A BIG ASK FOR YOU TO HELP GENERATE REVENUE BACK TO THAT REVENUE GENERATED. 
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AND I, I THINK THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN SUCCESSFULLY REALLY DO IT IS TO GET THE PEOPLE THROUGH THE ADDISON CIRCLE. 
          NOT TO THE CIRCLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          EXCLUSIVELY JUST MY THOUGHTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MORNING. 
          YEAH. 
          I'VE GOT A, UH, A LOT OF SCATTERED THOUGHTS. 
          I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY. 
          UM, I, DAN, I LOVE YOUR IDEA OF LIKE ENCORE, ENCORE WANTING TO LIGHT BE A SPONSOR. 
          LIGHTING UP, LIGHTING UP, ENERGIZING, LIGHTING UP THAT TREE, LIGHTING UP CHRISTMAS. 
          UM, AND DEFINITELY I WAS THINKING AMLI ALSO A ALONG WITH MAA THROW VIA IN THERE AS WELL. 
          IT'S THE OTHER ONE I WAS, COULDN'T GET OFF MY HEAD. 
          GET VIA INVOLVED AS WELL FOR MAYBE POTENTIAL EXPOSURE. 
          YEAH. 
          MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE BIG AND AND SMALL SPONSORSHIP ON THAT TO HELP, HELP PAY FOR THIS. 
          UM, UM, I I WILL SAY, AND I'M NOT PREPARED 'CAUSE I DIDN'T REALIZE THE QUESTION WAS GONNA COME UP ABOUT VITRUVIAN LIGHTS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT SPONSORING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT COST. 
          AND I, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S 50% OR WHAT IT IS, BUT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, I WOULD LOVE TO GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF PARTICIPATION IN ADDISON CIRCLE AS WHAT WE'RE GETTING FROM UDR. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE GETTING YEAH, I I, I WOULD SUSPECT IF I LOOKED AT MY NOTES, IT'S PROBABLY LIKE 50%. 
          SO IT IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD, UM, YEAH, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP THERE. 
          IT'S A PARTNERSHIP ON THAT. 
          AND I LOVE, AND I LOVE THAT EVENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND THAT EVENT'S GONNA GET EVEN BETTER WHEN, WHEN THAT AREA GETS MORE DEVELOPED. 
          UM, BUT, BUT GOING BACK TO THIS, UM, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD WAS THE, THE MASSIVE, THE BIG TREE. 
          UM, AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, MY PERSONAL THOUGHT WAS I KINDA LIKE ONE BIG TREE AND I LIKED OTHER CHRISTMAS ITEMS SPREAD OUT AND ACTIVATING MORE, MORE OF THE AREA. 
          UM, BUT I I, I WOULD FORGO, I WOULD JUST LIKE ONE BIG TREE WHEREVER THAT, WHEREVER THAT GOES, I DON'T KNOW, BUT PROBABLY IN THE CENTER OF, OF, OF THE ACTION. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT WOULD CUT DOWN OUR EXPENSE AND, AND I THINK IT WOULD, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'D TAKE AWAY FROM ANYTHING. 
          UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER THOUGHTS I'VE GOT IS, UH, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE COST, THE, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND THIS ADDING TO IT. 
          I AM CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR HOTELS IN THIS HOTEL FUND. 
          I THINK WE'RE, UH, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL BOUTIQUE HOTEL TO, TO POP UP AT ADDISON STATIONS, BUT IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE A WHILE, RIGHT? MAYBE THE CRANES DON'T SHOW UP FOR THAT UNTIL THREE YEARS FROM NOW. 
          SO MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE IT UNTIL FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. 
          AND, UM, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT WHERE WE LOSE, UH, UH, WE POSSIBLY LOSE A HOTEL. 
          SO, SO, UM, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY STRONG FUNDS. 
          WE SAW THAT STORMWATER FUND, HOW STRONG THAT IS WITH OUR, OUR, UH, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE IN THAT. 
          THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FUND I, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT UNTIL WE GET OUR, OUR, UM, WE'RE RECOVERING FROM COVID. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT, UM, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S, IT'S TOTALLY RECOVERED YET. 
          SO I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE FINANCIALS IN THIS, IN THIS FUND. 
          SO I, I WOULD LOVE IT IF, IF, IF WE DON'T ADD SO MUCH MONEY, SO MUCH EXPENSE FOR THE CHRISTMAS PORTION OF ADDISON CIRCLE. 
          SO DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, NUMBERS FOR THE CURRENT, UH, LAST YEAR, LAST COUPLE YEARS OF ATTENDANCE AT THE CIRCLE? ANY OF THE, MAYBE THE DRAW THAT WE'VE HAD? I DO NOT THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW. 
          I THINK IT'S A, A GREAT IDEA TO DRIVE ADDISON CIRCLE AS A DESTINATION. 
          I THINK IT'S GREAT. 
          UH, I THINK, UH, VITRUVIAN LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, AS THEY DEVELOP MORE OVER THERE, THAT'S DIMINISHING. 
          IT USED TO BE A WHOLE LOT OF LIGHTS OVER THERE. 
          NOW. 
          IT'S NOT, NOT QUITE, NOT AS MANY. 
          IT'S STILL PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. 
          WHAT'S OUR, UH, FUNDING PARTICIPATION ON, ON, UH, VITRUVIAN? IS IT A HUNDRED THOUSAND 250 85? 180 5. 
          180 5. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. 
          UM, JUST GOING DOWN THE LIST. 
          UM, DESTINATION YOU HAD ME AT DRONE SHOW TOO. 
          THAT'S PRETTY COOL. 
          GLAD I'M HAVING A DRONE SHOW. 
          GOOD IDEA. 
          UM, WHAT DO YOU GET FOR TWO 50? I, I SEE THE LINE ITEMS THERE, BUT HOW MUCH OF ALL THOSE 1.4 MILLION? THAT KIND OF NOT, I WAS REALLY HAPPY UNTIL I HEARD THAT. 
          OH. 
          SO WHAT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS WE WOULD ACTUALLY OPERATIONALLY LAY OUT THE PARK. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT FOOT TRAFFIC, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE ARE PEOPLE COMING FROM WITH SILVER LINE COMING ON BOARD. 
          AND SO WE WOULD WORK TO MAXIMIZE WHAT THAT GETS US AS FAR AS DECOR. 
          AND THEN ALSO IN THE PLANNING PROCESS UNDERSTAND THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO PHASE IN, UM, THE, THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD ACTIVATE THE WHOLE PARK IS A, IS A DREAM. 
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IT'S AN ASSET THAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE KNOWING THAT WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T DO THE ENTIRE PARK IN YEAR ONE. 
          AND SO WHATEVER THE FUNDING LOOKS LIKE IS WHAT WE WOULD TAKE BACK AND THEN SAY, OKAY, OPERATIONALLY WHERE DO WE SIT? UM, DAN YOU MENTIONED, UM, HOW DO WE EXPAND AND WHAT DO WE DO? UM, MARLON YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU REALLY ONLY WANT ONE TREE. 
          UM, AND SO THERE, THERE ARE THOUGHTS ABOUT, OKAY, DO WE, DO WE PUT A HUNDRED FOOT TREE ON THAT PLATFORM AND THAT BECOMES OUR TREE? DOES THAT BECOME OUR CENTER POINT? AND THEN OPERATIONALLY, HOW DO WE BUILD THAT AROUND THERE? UM, WE ARE IN CONTRACT WITH THE TREE THAT WE HAVE ON THE PLAZA, AND WE WILL HONOR THAT CONTRACT. 
          IT IS THROUGH THIS, THIS IS OUR LAST YEAR, UM, WITH THEM. 
          AND SO WE LOOK AT SCALE. 
          UM, I THINK THAT THAT SITS ON A SIX FOOT BASE AND IT'S ABOUT A 30 FOOT TREE. 
          REALISTICALLY, IT DOESN'T REALLY FIT SCALE WISE ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE PARK. 
          AND SO WE WOULD LOOK AT WHATEVER WAS APPROVED, UM, FOR THE PROJECT AND THEN BUILD OUT OPERATIONALLY. 
          SO I, I KNOW THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE A VERY SKIRTED ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION AND NOT SAYING, OH, WELL THAT WOULD GET US FIVE FIVE OF THE, THE SPACES THAT WE SAW. 
          UM, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IN PLANNING THAT OUT. 
          UH, I WOULD LEAVE THAT TO YOU, THE EXPERTS. 
          UM, SO WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT HAVING THIS ACTIVATED? IS, IS IT THREE WEEKS OR IS IT PART OF NOVEMBER? WE WOULD LOOK AT HAVING EVERYTHING READY TO GO DECEMBER ONE. 
          UM, YOU SHOULD HAVE ON YOUR COUNCIL CALENDAR A SAVE THE DATE FOR SATURDAY, DECEMBER 5TH, WHICH WOULD BE OUR TARGET TO LIGHT UP THE PARK, IF YOU WILL. 
          UM, AND SO THE LIGHTS AND, AND ALL OF THE DECOR WOULD START GOING UP THAT FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER. 
          AND THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT THE END DATE, UM, TO KIND OF MAXIMIZE OUR USE OF THE DECOR. 
          SO, UM, ABOUT THE SAME TIMEFRAME AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS WHAT IT WOULD BE. 
          YES SIR. 
          UM, CARRIAGE RIDES, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A COST OF RECOVERY FOR ME. 
          I THINK IT'S KIND OF NEAT THAT WE HAVE 'EM AND I DON'T LIKE THE EMAILS EITHER. 
          UM, BUT I THINK IT IS A NEAT THING TO, TO HAVE TO GET THE RIGHT ROUTE AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. 
          I THINK LIGHTING THE TREES, I THINK THAT'S ALL, ALL A GREAT IDEA. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET THE BIG, AND I WOULD SAY THAT WE COULD HAVE TWO TREES. 
          I THINK THAT TREE OVER THERE WHERE IT'S AT, I THINK THAT'S REALLY NEAT 'CAUSE IT DRAWS PEOPLE OVER THERE. 
          AND THEN MAYBE A REALLY BIG TREE IN THE BIG CIRCLE PART, UM, IS, IS REALLY COOL TOO. 
          BUT AGAIN, YOU DON'T WANT SOME, UM, RECOVERING IT, GUY DESIGNING THIS. 
          SO WE'LL JUST LET YOU GUYS DO IT. 
          BEN, UM, SORRY, I JUST LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. 
          MARLON, GO AHEAD AND I'LL CUT BACK TO IT. 
          YEAH, THE, THE ONLY THING I WANT TO ADD, UM, IS AS A ANIMAL LOVER AND, AND THINKING THROUGH SOME OF THESE EMAILS AND THAT WE GET, UM, I WOULD PREFER NOT TO DO THE CARRIAGE RIDES AND IT'S NOT ABOUT A MONEY THING AT ALL. 
          IT'S, UM, IT'S JUST, UM, I DON'T REALLY BELIEVE THAT, THAT WE NEED THAT. 
          AND, UM, AND I'M GOOD WITH NOT HAVING HORSES ON OUR STREETS AND, AND, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, GOD HELP US IF, IF ONE OF THOSE HORSES WERE TO GET HIT BY A, A VEHICLE, THAT WOULD BE A HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE FEELING. 
          JUST, I, I WOULD PREFER NOT TO, UM, TO HAVE THE CARRIAGE RIDES, UM, IN THOUGHT THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE USING THESE ANIMALS TO, TO WORK. 
          UM, AND, AND THE LAST THING I WOULD WANT TO DO IS SEE, UH, ANY ONE OF THEM GET HURT. 
          I GOT MY THOUGHTS. 
          SURELY THAT'D BE THE LAST THING ANYBODY WOULD WANT. 
          UM, I, I DO ENJOY THEM AND I, AND I, I DON'T LOVE THE EMAILS EITHER, BUT, YOU KNOW, HORSES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN WORKING ANIMALS. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THEIR, BEEN THEIR PURPOSE FROM HOWEVER LONG THEY'VE BEEN AROUND. 
          BUT, UH, SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM, BUT, UH, BUT I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANNA SEE 'EM GET HURT EITHER. 
          BUT THERE'S, THERE'S RISK IN EVERYTHING WE DO. 
          DID YOU COME UP WITH YOUR THOUGHTS? REMEMBER MY THOUGHT? OKAY, GOOD. 
          SO ABBY, SINCE WE OBVIOUSLY, AND I REFERENCED IT FROM LOSING TASTE, COULD THIS BE A POTENTIAL BLENDING THE CONCEPT OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? 'CAUSE IT WASN'T HERE WITH TASTE 2.0, TASTE THE HOLIDAYS, SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT. 
          YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE JEWISH HANUKAH HOLIDAY THAT RUNS RIGHT, THE EIGHT DAYS. 
          SO SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST CHRISTMAS LIGHT BULBS OR A TREE THAT, THAT EXPAND OUTSIDE THAT THINKING WOULD, WOULD GET ME MORE ON BOARD TO, TO PUT A FOOD COMPONENT TO THIS. 
          ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE THAT FELT WE'VE MISSED TASTE. 
          MAYBE THIS IS TASTE THE HOLIDAYS OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. 
          THANKS. 
          YOU GOT SO, OKAY. 
          OH, CHANEL, UH, OH. 
          UH, DAN AND I WERE JUST, I MEAN, DARREN AND I WERE JUST TALKING . 
          IT'S NOT JUST ME . 
          SO TO BE INCLUSIVE, MAYBE WE CAN ADD THE HANUKKAH STAR ON, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          IS 
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THAT, IS THAT IT FOR YOU, ABBY? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT WAS AMAZING. 
          ACTUALLY, THERE'S ONE MORE. 
          THERE'S ONE MORE. 
          . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ACTUALLY THERE'S ONE MORE. 
          I'LL BE DONE. 
          THAT'S NOT ALL WITH YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE SECOND, UM, ITEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR CONSIDERATION AROUND IS, UM, TASTE AROUND THE WORLD. 
          UM, THE INSPIRATION AROUND THAT COMES FROM TASTE ADDISON, WHERE WE HAD OUR WORLD EAT STREET AND WORLD BEAT, STAGE AND BALCONY. 
          UM, AND WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT A MULTICULTURAL MULTI-DAY EVENT, UM, AT THE ADDISON USING THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. 
          UM, THE CONCEPT THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO TASTE ADDISON, UM, WITH FOOD, MUSIC AND ART, UM, DANCE AS WELL. 
          BUT WE WOULD UTILIZE THE INSIDE OF THE ADDISON PERFORMING ART CENTER. 
          UM, THIS WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF SHOWCASE THE ADDISON, WHICH WE CONTINUE TO DO. 
          UM, AND IT WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT OUR CULINARY SCENE, UM, HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE CULTURES FROM AROUND THE WORLD, UM, AND INCLUDE THAT ART COMPONENT AS WELL. 
          WE WOULD LOOK TO BUILD OUT BOTH ALL SPACES, THE MAIN STAGE, THE STUDIO, THE LOBBY, THE STONE COTTAGE, AS WELL AS THE OUTDOOR SPACE AS WELL. 
          UM, IN INITIAL BRAINSTORMING SESSIONS AND THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, WE WOULD ALMOST PLAY OFF OF THE WORLD CUP THAT JUST HAPPENED. 
          AND MAYBE OUR FIRST TWO COUNTRIES THAT WE WOULD HIGHLIGHT WOULD BE SPAIN AND ARGENTINA. 
          AND SO, UM, LOOKING AT BUILDING THAT OUT, UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF EXPENSES. 
          WE DO HAVE SOME OPERATION EXPENSES. 
          UM, NOT THE OPERATIONS THAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING A, UH, COMMUNITY OUT IN AN OUTDOOR PARK. 
          UM, BUT SOME OPERATIONS. 
          WE LOOK AT FOOD AND BEVERAGE OPPORTUNITIES AROUND, UM, THE COUNTRIES THAT WE WOULD FEATURE AS A PART OF, UM, THE EVENT. 
          UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, ENTERTAINMENT AND ACTIVITIES, UM, THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THAT. 
          UM, WITH IT BEING A BRAND NEW EVENT, WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME MARKETING DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN OUR EXPENSES. 
          REVENUE OPPORTUNITY. 
          REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES EXIST AS WELL. 
          WE'D BE LOOKING AT SPONSORSHIP. 
          WE WOULD SELL SEATS INSIDE OF THE MAIN STAGE. 
          AND SO THE EVENT IN, IN OUR MIND WOULD BE OPEN AND FREE, UM, UNLESS YOU WERE PURCHASING A SEAT INSIDE OF THE MAIN STAGE. 
          AND SO OPPORTUNITIES TO SELL THAT OUT. 
          UM, IT WOULD BE A MULTI-WEEK WEEKEND THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. 
          AND SO MAYBE TWO BACK-TO-BACK WEEKENDS SO THAT WE COULD REALLY CREATE A SERIES, UM, AND ROTATE THROUGH THAT, UM, AS WE CONTINUED TO GROW. 
          UM, AND THEN LOOKING AT VENDOR OPPORTUNITIES AS WE LOOK TO PROGRAM THE OUTSIDE SPACE AS WELL. 
          AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          GOOD, CHRIS? SO I'M, I'M GLAD WE'RE AT LEAST STARTING THE CONVERSATION ON SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA REPLACE TASTE. 
          UM, SO THE THING ABOUT THIS IS YOU'RE STILL HAVING TO REACH OUT TO THE RESTAURANTS AND BEG THEM TO PARTICIPATE. 
          AND WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TOLD THAT THEY DON'T WANNA DO IT. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO EXPLORE SOMETHING AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE, LIKE A RESTAURANT WEEK ON STEROIDS ELEVATED WHERE WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DRIVE PEOPLE TO THE RESTAURANT. 
          SO RESTAURANT OWNERS DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT STAFFING SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND STAFFING THEIR RESTAURANTS. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF IF THERE'S A KITCHEN INSIDE THE THEATER, BUT HOW THEY WOULD PREPARE FOOD. 
          SO THAT'S SORT OF THE DIRECTION THAT I'D LIKE TO GO WITH SOMETHING THAT REPLACED TASTE. 
          UM, AND THEN, AND, AND I KNOW THAT YOU GOT TOGETHER WITH YOUR STAFF AND I, I REALLY WISH WE WOULD'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE WHO THE BIGGEST THING THEY BRING TO THE TABLE IS THE CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO I THINK IF YOU WENT AROUND THE ROOM, WE'VE PROBABLY ALL BEEN TO 20 TASTE ADDISONS AND I'D LOVE TO SHARE WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T. 
          AND WE DIDN'T GET THAT OPPORTUNITY UNFORTUNATELY. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO DO THAT. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THE DALLAS, UH, MORNING NEWS THIS PAST WEEK, BUT, UM, THE IRISH FESTIVAL FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS WAS THAT, UM, FAIR PARK AND DENTON WAS ABLE TO STEAL THEM AWAY TO OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE THAT COME TO THAT THREE OR FOUR DAY FESTIVAL. 
          WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE ALL WE'RE REALLY DOING IS RENTING OUT THE PARK AND INVITING A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE IN LEVERAGING DART LEVERAGING THE SPACE OUT THERE. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HAD IN MIND AS WELL AS A REPLACEMENT TO TASTE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I SAW MARY, UM, KIND OF WALK UP. 
          SHE CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THE MARKETING EFFORTS THAT WE ARE EXPLORING AROUND, UM, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SPOKE OF MARY ROSEN, BLAKE, DIRECTOR OF MARKETING AND TOURISM. 
          THE, UM, THE IDEA OF A RESTAURANT WEEK HAS BEEN, UM, HANDED OVER TO MY DEPARTMENT TO FOCUS ON, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED, UH, DALLAS RESTAURANT WEEK STARTS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. 
          WE ACTUALLY HAD SOMETHING IN THE NEWSLETTER ABOUT IT LAST WEEK. 
          WE HAVE 12 OF OUR A APART 12 OF OUR RESTAURANTS THAT ALREADY PARTICIPATE IN THAT. 
          SO WE DON'T WANNA DO A TRADITIONAL RESTAURANT WEEK THAT DOESN'T REALLY WORK FOR A LARGE MAJORITY OF OUR RESTAURANTS. 
          UM, THE WAY THE DALLAS ONE IS SET UP, YOU HAVE TO DO A PRESET MEAL. 
          WELL, THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR OUR MID-TIER RESTAURANTS. 
          IT WORKS FOR 
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THE CHAMBERLAINS AND IT WORKS FOR THE TABLE THIRTEENS, BUT A LARGE CHUNK OF OUR RESTAURANTS ARE MORE OF THOSE MID-TIER RESTAURANTS. 
          SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE'VE REACHED OUT TO OUR AD AGENCY, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO, UM, OUR PR AGENCY. 
          WE ARE GONNA HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH, UM, OUR NEW, UM, WHO'S OUR NEW RADIO SPONSOR FOR ODYSSEY ODYSSEY, UM, WHO RUNS, WHO'S THE ONE THAT RUNS THE DALLAS RESTAURANT WEEK AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS ADDISON BRANDED, THAT IS US, THAT'S NOT A COPYCAT OF WHAT A, WHAT DALLAS IS ALREADY DOING. 
          'CAUSE WE DO HAVE A BUNCH OF OUR RESTAURANTS PARTICIPATING IN THAT. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING OUR TEAM IS WORKING ON, IS CREATING, UM, AN ADVERTISING PROGRAM, BUT ALSO HAVING SOME KIND OF COMPONENT THAT DRIVES PEOPLE INTO THE RESTAURANTS. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DO. 
          WE HAD REALLY GREAT SUCCESS. 
          ABBY TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT WITH THE PASSPORTS THAT WE DID FOR KICK IT. 
          WE PRINTED A THOUSAND PASSPORTS AND GOT PEOPLE, EVERY ONE OF THOSE PASSPORTS WAS PICKED UP. 
          UM, AND PEOPLE TOOK THEM AROUND TO THE ADDISON CIRCLE RESTAURANTS AND REDEEMED THEM FOR LITTLE, LITTLE GOODIES THAT WE ACTUALLY PROVIDED. 
          IT DIDN'T DRIVE SALES, BUT IT LAID THE GROUNDWORK FOR, UM, A PROGRAM THAT WE CAN REPLICATE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. 
          DALLAS SITES IS DOING SOMETHING REALLY SIMILAR RIGHT NOW. 
          IT'S A REALLY POPULAR, IN FACT, THEY WANTED TO CHARGE US FIVE TIMES MORE THAN THAN WHAT WE ENDED UP PAYING. 
          'CAUSE WE DID IT OURSELVES, UM, TO CREATE A SIMILAR PROGRAM FOR US. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE EXPLORING SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE MARKETING, BUT ALSO THAT ARE EXPERIENTIAL TO DRIVE PEOPLE INTO THE RESTAURANTS IN WAYS THAT IT WON'T REQUIRE A HUGE IMPACT ON THE RESTAURANTS THAT OUR TEAM AND, AND OUR AD AGENCY AND OUR PR AGENCY CAN HELP SUPPORT SOME OF THAT. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT OUR, OUR, THE, THE PHYSICAL PASSPORT THAT WE PRINTED OUT THIS TIME. 
          UM, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT WITH, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CHRISTMAS PROGRAM THAT ABBY'S PLANNING. 
          UM, SO THAT'LL DRIVE PEOPLE THROUGH HERE. 
          WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY. 
          WE THINK THAT AREA IS RIPE FOR HAVING SOME KIND OF EXPERIENTIAL TYPE PROGRAMMING. 
          UM, AND MAYBE IT'S A NIGHT MARKET THAT'S GOT A BAND IN THE, THE LITTLE GLASSY AREA OVER THERE THAT DRIVES PEOPLE IN AND AROUND THOSE RESTAURANTS. 
          BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S NECESSARILY RESTAURANT WEEK. 
          SO MORE TO COME ON THAT. 
          BUT WE ARE BRAINSTORMING AND WE ARE USING ALL OF OUR KIND OF, UM, CREATIVE RESOURCES ALONG OBVIOUSLY WITH ABBY AND, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO TRY AND PULL IN EVERYBODY'S, UM, CREATIVE ENERGIES TO COME UP WITH THINGS THAT ARE REALLY MORE GEARED TOWARDS WHAT WORK, WHAT WE THINK WILL WORK FOR ADDISON. 
          YEAH, I I JUST THINK SOMETIMES IT GETS LOST. 
          LIKE IT, I WAS READING, UM, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT, UM, WENT OUT WITH THE, THE BOND ISSUANCE, BUT THERE WAS A SUMMARY OF THE TOWN AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY HIGHLIGHTED WAS THEY HAVE MORE RESTAURANTS PER CAPITA THAN ANY OTHER CITY IN THE COUNTRY. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE THAT GETS LOST SOMETIMES. 
          AND, UM, I SOMEHOW WANT TO BRING THAT BACK. 
          SO I I IT, IT GETS SO COMPETITIVE, RIGHT? NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE RESTAURANTS, ESPECIALLY IN THIS MARKET, BUT SOMEHOW I WANNA GET TO THE PLACE WHERE IF, IF SOMEONE'S THINKING ABOUT GOING OUT WITH FRIENDS, ADDISON'S THE TOP OF THE LIST AND I JUST, I FEEL LIKE IT GETS LOST SOMETIMES. 
          SO I, I LIKE SOME OF THE IDEAS. 
          LIKE I, I REALLY DO LIKE THE IDEA OF LIKE SETTING UP A BAND IN ONE OF THE CORNERS OF ONE OF THOSE SHOPPING CENTERS. 
          OR MAYBE YOU DO, UM, ADDISON WALK ONE WEEKEND OR, YOU KNOW, VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY. 
          I, I STILL THINK IF YOU SHUT DOWN BELTWAY BELTLINE, UM, FROM LIKE THE TOLLWAY TO, I DON'T KNOW, MIDWAY OR SOMETHING, THAT WOULD BE REALLY COOL. 
          I MEAN, IT'D BE A NIGHTMARE ON TRAFFIC , BUT I JUST THINK IT'D BE JUST CRAZY ENOUGH TO WORK. 
          SO I, I JUST WANT TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX TO GET PEOPLE IN. 
          THANK YOU FOR FEEDBACK DAN. 
          OUTSTANDING. 
          CHRIS OUTSTANDING. 
          HEY, UM, SOME MARKETING WISE, 'CAUSE EVERYTHING THEY SAY, EVERYTHING OLD IS NEW AGAIN, RIGHT? SO BILLY BLANKS, TIBO HAS BECOME ALL THE RAGE AMONGST THESE MILLENNIALS NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN KNOW IF YOU KNEW THAT, BUT HE'S LIKE A BIG HIT RIGHT NOW. 
          IS IT? IT'S BILLY BLANKS. 
          TY BO. 
          YOU NEED TO LOOK THIS UP, BRUCE. 
          YOU PROBABLY WERE DOING TY BO, YOU DON'T REMEMBER DOING IT BACK THEN. 
          YOU WERE PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE GUYS WHO SUBSCRIBED. 
          BUT ANYHOW, REMEMBER PASS, REMEMBER PASSBOOK, I AM I DATING MYSELF THROUGH PASSBOOK, WHOEVER HAD PASSBOOK IN THE ROOM. 
          RAISE YOUR HAND TO DEAL. 
          YOU, YOU BOUGHT A BOOK AND IT WAS COUPONS TO A BUNCH OF RESTAURANTS FOR THE YEAR. 
          AND IT'S A VALUE STORY TO THAT. 
          WE NEED TO CREATE THAT FOR OUR RESTAURANTS AND OUR EXPERIENCES. 
          BAB BOX, YOU'VE GOT HU CHECK. 
          WE WE'VE GOTTA CREATE SOMETHING HERE LOCALLY, GETS PEOPLE TO WHERE THE SHOPS ARE, THE RESTAURANTS, THE BOUTIQUES, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA, I HATE TO SAY IT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET 'EM TO COME TO 
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THE CIRCLE PARK ONLY. 
          THEY'VE GOTTA COME TO THE CIRCLE AND VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY AND ADDISON WALK AND THE THAT'S MY THOUGHT. 
          I'LL STOP AT THAT. 
          NO, I LOVE THAT. 
          WE'VE GOT ACTUALLY TIE BOWERS OR YOU DID IT A DIGITAL VERSION OF THAT THAT WE'VE BEEN ROLLING OUT. 
          WE'VE GOT A, A COFFEE PASS RIGHT NOW, UM, THAT LETS YOU GO TO DIFFERENT COFFEE PLACES. 
          WE ACTUALLY REDEEM PRI YOU CAN REDEEM IT WITH US TO GET PRIZES. 
          UM, SO WE DO HAVE THAT, WE HAVE A DIGITAL VERSION OF THAT. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, AS A START, JUST THE PRINTED ONE THAT WE HAD AT KICK IT THAT WAS SUPER SUCCESSFUL. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE MORE OF THAT, THAT WE DO. 
          I MEAN TAKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, I CAN ALMOST SAY WE, WE COULD CONTRIBUTE THAT TOWARDS A PASSPORT BOOK FOR PEOPLE TO PURCHASE BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE GETTING THEM IN THE ACTUAL BUSINESSES IN OUR TOWN. 
          SO THAT'S, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BUT LIKE A HARD COPY PASS BOOK. 
          NO, A DIGITAL ONE FOR THE MILLENNIALS OF THE, OF THIS GENERATION. 
          WE WOULD WANT PRINTED ONES. 
          I WOULD NOT. 
          PEOPLE LIKE THE PRINTED ONES TOO. 
          THAT'S, THAT HAS COME THAT AGREE. 
          IF THEY PICKED UP A THOUSAND PASSPORTS THAT SAYS, WELL, YOU NEED TO KNOW, THEY WOULD PICK SOMETHING UP. 
          TANGIBLE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NOW I LIKE, I LIKE THESE IDEAS OF DRIVING PEOPLE TO THE RESTAURANTS RATHER THAN TAKING THE RESTAURANTS OUT OF THE RESTAURANT. 
          AND, UM, SO, SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN THAT REGARD, UM, WE'LL LEVERAGE, UH, ONE OF OUR, I THINK ONE OF OUR STRENGTHS, BIG TIME STRENGTHS. 
          AND WE HAD AN AGENDA ITEM ABOUT THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO. 
          AND, AND I'M NOT SAYING EVERY ONE OF THOSE IDEAS WAS PERFECT, BUT I AM SAYING THERE IS, THERE'S GOTTA BE AT LEAST ONE OR TWO THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER. 
          I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU WERE REFERENCING THERE. 
          I CAN SEND YOU THE AGENDA. 
          I'LL SEND YOU THE VIDEO FROM, FROM THE AGENDA ITEM WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WE WERE BRAINSTORMING ABOUT, UM, UM, IDEAS TO PUT HEADS IN BEDS AND, AND, UM, OH YEAH, OH YEAH. 
          BRINGING PEOPLE INTO OUR RESTAURANTS. 
          OKAY, ALRIGHT. 
          WELL, UM, THERE'S A LOT ABOUT THIS THAT I DO LIKE, UH, AND I GET THAT IT'S CHALLENGING TO GET THE RESTAURANTS TO COME AND, UH, SET UP SOMETHING OUTSIDE THEIR NORMAL SPACE. 
          UM, BUT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT RESTAURANTS FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, ABBY, HOW MANY RESTAURANTS ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT? UM, SO IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE COUNTRY THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, UM, HOSTING OR, OR SHOWCASING. 
          UM, AND THE IDEA ACTUALLY SPURRED FROM OUR RESTAURANT COALITION TEAM MM-HMM . 
          UM, THE IDEA OF THEM BEING KIND OF THE SOLE FOCUS AMONGST THEIR PEERS AND REALLY HIGHLIGHTING AND SHOWCASING THAT VERSUS BEING OUT THERE WITH 48 OF THEIR OTHER PEERS, UM, WHERE EVERYBODY KIND OF GETS TO PICK THEIR FLAVOR, IF YOU WILL. 
          AND SO THE IDEA SPURNED FROM, UM, THE RESTAURANT COALITION SAYING, GOSH, IF WE COULD LIKE KIND OF HONE IN AND CREATE A SERIES TYPE OF DEAL, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          AND THEN LOOKING AT DIVERSIFYING WHAT THAT EVEN LOOKS LIKE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE PERGOLA AND ONE OF THE CONCEPTS THAT, UM, CAME FROM THE MEETING THAT MARLON IS REFERENCING WAS, UM, PLATES ON THE PERGOLA. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, NATE'S WAS ALL FOR THAT. 
          HE WAS LIKE A CRAWFISH BOIL UNDERNEATH THAT PERGOLA WHERE WE HAVE A BAND AND WE'VE GOT CRAWFISH AND WE'VE GOT BEER AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          UM, IT REALLY LENDS ITSELF TO HIGHLIGHTING AND SHOWCASING THAT TYPE OF FOOD MM-HMM . 
          AND SO THE RESTAURANTS WERE REALLY ON BOARD WITH, UM, HIGHLIGHTING AND SHOWCASING INDIVIDUALS, THEM BEING ONE OF FOUR VERSUS ONE OF 50. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND, AND, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S WHAT I WAS SEEING AS YOU WERE DESCRIBING THIS. 
          I WAS NOT SEEING ANOTHER TASTE ADDISON, WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO FILL UP THE WHOLE PARK. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I DO LIKE THIS IDEA AND, AND THE FACT THAT YOU SAID THE RESTAURANT COALITION, WHICH WOULD BE THE BE PEOPLE PARTICIPATING THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY LIKE THIS AND THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH IT, MAKES IT EVEN BETTER FOR ME. 
          SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS COME TO COME TO FRUITION AND, AND JUST WITH THE NAME OF THE WORLD, THE TASTE AROUND THE WORLD, I MEAN, I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE, THE WORLD, UH, WORLD, WORLD WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE, WE USED TO DO, UH, WORLD FEST, UH, BACK IN, I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS, 10, 15 YEARS AGO, WHENEVER THAT WAS. 
          AND, AND THAT WAS, I ALWAYS LOVED THAT EVENT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I'VE SEEN THE SAME THING, FOOD, MUSIC, DANCE, YOU KNOW, FROM AROUND THE WORLD STUFF. 
          MAYBE THEY, MAYBE THERE'S A WAY THEY PARTNER WITH US ON THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITIES WITH THIS. 
          UM, AND I, I, I, I DON'T, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T, I I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO NOT POO POO IT SO MUCH WITHOUT REALLY LOOKING, UH, LOOKING A LITTLE FURTHER INTO IT. 
          AND, UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN CLOSING DOWN THE LINE FOR ANY LENGTH OF I CLEAR THE LAST ONE. 
          YES. 
          I, I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR FOR ME AGAIN. 
          SO, UM, BUT YEAH, SO I'M, I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF PURSUING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THIS. 
          I THINK WHAT, WHAT TIME OF YEAR ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT IT FOR THIS, IT WOULD BE IN THE SPRING. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT APRIL TIMEFRAME. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I JUST, I DON'T THINK I, I KNOW I WON'T SUPPORT 
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IT. 
          I, I MEAN, IF WE'RE GONNA TAKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OUTTA THE HOTEL FUND, I'D RATHER GIVE AWAY $4,025 GIFT CERTIFICATES AND TO DRIVE PEOPLE TO THE RESTAURANT, WHAT, $4,025 GIFT CERTIFICATES. 
          YEAH. 
          IS MY MATH RIGHT? JUST 4,000, 25, A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          RATHER THAN SPENDING A HUNDRED THOUSAND ON INFRASTRUCTURE, JUST GIVE OUT GIFT CERTIFICATES TO DRIVE PEOPLE TO THE RESTAURANTS. 
          AND I WON'T BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT DO YOU GOT NEXT, ABBY? SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE, WE DEFINITELY HAVE ONE FOR THE EVENT. 
          ONE NOT FOR THE EVENT. 
          CAN WE HEAR FROM THE REST JUST REAL QUICK, JUST SO WE KNOW, IF WE WANNA KEEP THIS IN THE BUDGET AT THIS TIME, JUST THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN. 
          UH, CONTINUE KEEPING THIS EVENT IN THE BUDGET FOR NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M NOT REAL FOND OF IT. 
          NOT IN ITS CURRENT FORM. 
          A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR, FOR SOMETHING TASTE AROUND THE WORLD. 
          I LIKE THAT. 
          I MEAN, 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S GOT LEGS, BUT WE JUST GOTTA PUT, DEFINE THE LEGS. 
          NOT IN THIS FORM. 
          WELL, I DID SEE, YEAH, I, I COULDN'T HEAR THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AT THIS TIME I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO BILL HAWLEY AND THEN I WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO SORRY, START WITH ANOTHER LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE THEATER NEXT DOOR. 
          WHEN THAT WAS DESIGNED AND BUILT ABOUT 33 YEARS AGO, IT WAS REALLY ONE MAIN PERFORMANCE SPACE WITH DRESSING ROOMS THAT SUPPORT THAT. 
          AND THEN THE, WHAT'S NOW THE STUDIO THEATER WAS MORE OF REHEARSAL SPACE. 
          SO THE RE STUDIO THEATER DOESN'T HAVE DRESSING ROOM SUPPORT, CONTROL ROOM SUPPORT. 
          AND OVER TIME, AS ABBY AND NICOLE HAVE, UH, UH, LET THOSE ROOMS UP, UH, WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS, UM, THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR DRESSING ROOMS AND SOME CONTROL ROOM OVER IN THE STUDIO THEATER, WHICH OVER THE YEARS HAS JUST KIND OF BEEN BUILT AD HOC, LET'S SAY. 
          AND WE WILL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES, UH, AS TO HOW THAT'S EVOLVED. 
          SO THAT IS THE LOOK OF THE INSIDE THE STUDIO THEATER TO THE CONTROL ROOM. 
          SO ANYTIME THEY'RE HAVING AN EVENT OR A PERFORMANCE IN THERE, IF YOU LOOK UP INTO THE WEST, YOU SEE THE PEOPLE IN THERE CONTROLLING, YOU HAVE THIS LIGHT THAT'S DISTRACTING. 
          YOU HAVE THE BIG OPEN SPACE, AND, UH, IT'S VERY NOTICEABLE. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE INSIDE THAT ROOM. 
          AND I'LL CALL IT, UM, AD HOC. 
          THE, THE WIRING IS TEMPORARY. 
          THE, THE, THE, THE WALLS, EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONE IN THERE, I THINK WAS, WAS SOME FOLKS THAT, UH, GAVE IT A REALLY GOOD ATTEMPT, MAYBE WITH SOME LEFTOVER THEATER SCENERY OR SOMETHING. 
          BUT IT, IT JUST REALLY NEEDS TO BE, UM, BROUGHT UP TO CODE AND MADE SAFE, UH, AND DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT THAT FUNCTIONS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING THE, THE EVENT. 
          AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ENJOYING THE EVENT FROM THE INSIDE, THAT THEY'RE NOT DISTRACTED BY IT. 
          AND AS ABBY POINTS OUT IN THE DETAILS HERE, THE STUDIO IS NOW 43% OF THE EVENTS THAT, THAT OCCUR IN THAT BUILDING. 
          SO IT'S TIME TO PUT A LITTLE INVESTMENT INTO THAT AREA. 
          THERE'S ALSO A CONCERN ABOUT THE WAY IT WAS LAID OUT, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT WAS JUST KIND OF CONSIDERED ONE BUILDING. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF PASS THROUGH AND ACCESS BETWEEN THE, THE MAIN STAGE AND THAT AREA. 
          SO WE HAD AN EVENT, UH, THERE WHERE A PATRON GOT UP AND INTO PLACES THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AND WANDERED IN. 
          AND SOME OF THESE ARE, UH, JUST IMMEDIATE DROP OFFS OF 20, 30 FEET OR MORE. 
          SO WE WANT TO DO A LITTLE SAFETY AND ACCESS CONTROL AS PART OF THIS. 
          AND THEN BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER DESIGNED, THAT SPACE WASN'T DESIGNED TO BE A CONTROL ROOM. 
          WIRES ARE RUN IN FROM OTHER PLACES, SO WE NEED TO DO SOME UPDATES TO MAKE THE ELECTRICAL ALL CODE COMPLIANT. 
          AND THEN DIRECTLY BELOW THAT IS AN EQUIVALENT SPACE THAT COULD BE CONVERTED INTO A, A SMALLER DRESSING AREA FOR THE SMALLER PERFORMANCES THAT, THAT OCCUR IN THE STUDIO THEATER. 
          AND THAT SPACE IS, UM, I GUESS JUST IS KIND OF A MULTIPURPOSE SPACE THAT'S USED FOR, FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          BUT, UM, NOW THAT NICOLE IS REALLY CLEANED THAT UP AND ORGANIZED IT, UH, THEY BELIEVE THAT CAN BE DEDICATED FULL-TIME TO A DRESSING ROOM SPACE THAT WOULD BE, UH, DIRECT ACCESS ONTO THE BACK OF THE STAGE. 
          WE WOULD SET IT UP JUST LIKE WE DID THE, THE REMODELS THAT WE DID OVER IN THE OTHER PART OF THE BUILDING WHERE THEY HAVE A NICE, NICE LIGHTING SET UP. 
          THEY HAVE SOME, UH, STORAGE, THEY HAVE A PLACE TO PUT ON THEIR MAKEUP AND MAKE SURE THEIR, THEIR COSTUMES AND EVERYTHING ARE READY, AND THEN THEY CAN JUST LEAD RIGHT OUT ONTO THE PERFORMANCE STAGE FROM THERE. 
          BUT THERE'S NO STRUCTURAL OR PLUMBING INVOLVED IN THAT, UM, REMODEL. 
          IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL COSMETIC AND, AND SOME JUST ADDITIONS OF COUNTER SPACE AND, UM, TAKING EXISTING ELECTRICAL AND JUST IMPROVING THE LIGHTING. 
          THEN THE THIRD ISSUE IN THE BUILDING AGAIN RELATES TO THE HAVING TWO PERFORMANCES AT ONCE. 
          IF YOU SEE ALONG THE, THE SOUTH FACING WALKWAY, UH, 
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ALONG THE OUTSIDE, NOT THE MAIN LOBBY, BUT AS YOU GO EAST FROM THE MAIN LOBBY TOWARDS THE STUDIO THEATER, THERE'S A LONG HALLWAY AND THERE'S A SERIES OF DOORS THAT ARE USUALLY CLOSED. 
          UH, BUT THOSE OPEN DIRECTLY ON INTO THE, THE MAIN STAGE. 
          SO WHEN THERE'S AN EVENT IN THE STUDIO THEATER, AND THEN THOSE PEOPLE WANT TO GO TO THE LOBBY, AND THERE'S SOMETHING ALSO GOING ON IN THE MAIN STAGE, THERE'S A LOT OF SOUND THAT TRAVELS THROUGH THERE, AND THEY, THEY DISTRACT FROM THE PERFORMANCES. 
          SO THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO DO SOME ACOUSTICAL TREATMENTS AND, AND ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF AESTHETIC UPGRADES. 
          THESE DOORS HAVE BEEN SUN FADED, THEY'VE BEEN DAMAGED. 
          SO IT'S A, IT'S A CHANCE TO REALLY STEP THOSE UP AND THEN KEEP, UH, WHERE ABBY AND NICOLE CAN BOOK MULTIPLE EVENTS IN THE SAME BUILDING AT THE SAME TIME AND MINIMIZE THE DISRUPTION, UM, BETWEEN THE TWO ONGOING EVENTS. 
          SO THAT'S A LOOK AT THOSE, THOSE DOORS ALONG THAT, THAT WALKWAY. 
          AND SOME OF IT IS ALSO, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT IN THE TOP YOU SEE THE LITTLE NOTCHES. 
          AND THAT'S AN INTERESTING DESIGN FEATURE WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S, IT'S A PASS THROUGH FOR AIR BETWEEN THAT, THAT AREA AND THE MAIN STAGE, WHICH JUST IS A CONDUIT FOR, FOR SOUND TO, TO PASS RIGHT THROUGH. 
          SO WE'VE GOT A TREATMENT THAT'LL STILL ALLOW THE AIR TO MOVE, UH, BY ALTERNATING THOSE AND NOT LET THE SOUND THROUGH. 
          AND THEN THE FOURTH PROJECT IS, UM, AND ABBY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THIS, THIS WAS TEMPORARY WHEN IT WAS REBRANDED TO THE ADDISON. 
          THESE WERE STICKERS THAT WERE APPLIED TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE, WHAT WE CALL THE CAKE TOP, WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE A BIG KIND OF WEDDING CAKE. 
          AND IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN THAT AT NIGHT, YOU KNOW THAT THE, UM, UM, THE INTENT OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN WAS FOR THAT TO, TO REALLY LIGHT UP AND SHINE AND, AND BE A FOCAL POINT OF THE BUILDING. 
          BUT IT DOESN'T LEND ITSELF TO, TO ANY KIND OF BRANDING OR, UH, IDENTIFICATION OF WHAT, WHAT THIS BUILDING IS. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S RESPECTFUL AND, AND CONTINUES THIS, BUT STILL GIVES IT AN IDENTITY AND A CHARACTER THAT USES THE NEW LOGOS AND THE COLORS. 
          AND WHAT, UH, WHAT A, A CONTRACTOR HAS COME UP WITH IS, IS A WAY TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE TRANSLUCENT PANELS, BUT ADD SOME, UM, ADDITIONAL PANELS BEHIND THEM THAT HAVE COLORS AND PATTERNS AND THINGS THAT WOULD, UH, MIMIC A LOT OF WHAT YOU HAD THERE. 
          BUT IT WOULD JUST BE, UH, SEAMLESS. 
          IT WOULDN'T BE SUBJECTED TO THE ELEMENTS. 
          IT WOULD BE, UH, INTEGRATED INTO THE EXISTING DESIGN AND BE RESPECTFUL TO THAT, BUT THEY COULD LIGHT IT UP FROM BEHIND AND, AND HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UH, EFFECTS AND FEATURES, UM, AND MAKE IT VERY IDENTIFIABLE. 
          SO I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE FOUR PROJECTS, WHICH I WROTE. 
          THANK YOU, BILL. 
          FAST. 
          THANK, SO CHRIS, JUST HAPPY TO SEE NUMBER THREE, UM, THE ACOUSTICS, UM, WE'RE AT A SHOW AND THEY HAD TO ACTUALLY TURN THE VOLUME DOWN OF THE SHOW WE WERE AT BECAUSE IT WAS BOTHERING THE SHOW IN THE STUDIO. 
          SO I'M, I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT. 
          GOOD. 
          MARLEY. 
          OH, I'M SORRY, DAN, WILL YOU GO BACK TO THOSE FIRST FEW PICTURES OF THAT SOUND ROOM? THIS AREA? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE WAS ONE THAT JUST CAPTURED ONE OF THE, I WAS LOOKING AT. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          JUST THE, IS AIR CONDITIONING AN ISSUE IN THE BUILDING SINCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HVAC EARLIER? SO THE, AGAIN, THE, I'LL USE THE AD HOC TERM. 
          SOMEONE HAS LITERALLY JUST TAPPED INTO EVENT AND JUST ADDED IT IN. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT TOO, IS TO PROPERLY PROVIDE AIR AND BALANCE AND, AND AIR, AIR IN AND OUT, UH, OF, OF THOSE SPACES. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT YOU SEE IS, UH, I DON'T KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE KIND OF RANDOMLY PAINTED CERTAIN AREAS AND NOT OTHERS. 
          AND THEN SOME OF THAT'S THE FOAM TREATMENT THAT THEY JUST STUCK ON THE WALL. 
          SO IT'S, I THINK, UH, UM, SOME FOLKS HAVE TRIED TO BE CREATIVE AND IT'S, IT'S TIME TO JUST, JUST JUST BACK OUT AND DO IT AND DO IT RIGHT. 
          SO, YEAH, I MEAN, I CAN, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR ALL THREE OF THESE, STEP ONE, TWO, AND THREE, ESPECIALLY WITH NICOLE AND ABBY TRYING TO SELL THE KNIGHTS BECAUSE THIS PLACE DOES LOOK HIGHLY DATED. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          OKAY, SO WE DID A LOT OF THE UPGRADES, OR ARE DOING THEM FROM LAST YEAR. 
          DID WE FI ARE THOSE FINISHED? YEAH, SO THEY ARE 85% FINISHED. 
          WHAT'S NOT FINISHED ARE THE TWO FIRST FLOOR RESTROOMS. AND THAT WAS INTENTIONAL. 
          WE DID WORK IN THE LATE JUNE, EARLY JULY PERIOD WHEN IT WAS DARK FOR KABOOM TOWN AND WE COULDN'T TAKE ALL FIVE BATHROOMS OFFLINE AT THE SAME TIME. 
          SO WE TOOK THREE OUT IN PHASE ONE. 
          UH, WE'RE WORKING NOW IN THE LOBBY, YOU'LL SEE THE CONCESSION SINK, UH, PROJECT IS GOING IN AND THAT'S GONNA HAVE A NICE, 
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A NICE NEW LOOK IN A NICE NEW AREA. 
          THERE'S THE, UM, THE NEXT PHASE, WHICH IS GONNA HAPPEN STARTING ON AUGUST 24TH TO SEPTEMBER 13TH WHEN IT'S DARK AGAIN, GOING INTO KABOOM TOWN. 
          THEY'LL COME IN AND DO THE REMAINING, UH, PROJECTS, WHICH INCLUDE THE FIRST TWO, UH, FIRST FLOOR RESTROOMS. SO, SO CAN WE GO BACK TO SLIDE 92? UH, IT'S ABOUT THE, THE BUDGET. 
          A HOTEL FUND BUDGET OR A FUND? THE MODEL IT'S WAY BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          SO AND ABBY'S PICTURES. 
          OH, BEFORE THAT DRAFT IT? YEAH, IT'S BEFORE THIS. 
          IT'S WAY BACK THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, SO DOES, DOES THAT MODEL INCLUDE ALL OF THESE EXPENDITURES? IT, IT, IT DOES. 
          SO THESE, UH, ONE-TIME PROJECTS ARE LISTED THERE MM-HMM . 
          UH, SO THAT'S, UM, THE $215,000 FOR THOSE FOUR ARE INCLUDED IN THAT FUND SUMMARY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF WE CHOOSE NOT TO DO THE TASTE, OR, OR IF WE DON'T SPEND SOME OF THAT MONEY, THEN, THEN THE, THE LINE'S GONNA LOOK EVEN BETTER. 
          92. 
          THAT ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE LOOK LIKE. 
          OH, GO BACK, GO BACK TO THE PICTURE. 
          THIS ONE. 
          THAT PICTURE, YEAH, THAT ONE. 
          SO THAT REFLECTS THE SPEND THAT IS PROPOSED? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THIS IS INCLUDING EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST SAW. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE FUND STAYS STRONG. 
          EVEN IF WE DO THIS INVESTMENT, UH, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE INVESTMENTS IN, IN THE FACILITY. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT. 
          YEAH, NO, I, I AGREE. 
          AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE REALLY GOOD, THOUGHTFUL THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING FOR THAT, UH, FACILITY OVER THERE THAT NEEDS TO A FAIR AMOUNT OF LOVE. 
          MARLEY. 
          I JUST WANNA ADD, I WAS SOLD WITH THE PICTURES. 
          . 
          I MEAN, NOT IN A GREAT WAY, BUT IT'S A THOUSAND WORDS, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          I'M SURPRISED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T SHUT US DOWN. 
          , SURELY. 
          ALRIGHT, SO, OH, EVERY, EVERYBODY, UH, SORRY. 
          SORRY, CHIEF, YOU DIDN'T HEAR THAT EVERYBODY. 
          YEAH, THANKS DAN FOR THAT. 
          THAT WAS GREAT. 
          YEAH, REALLY GOOD INPUT. 
          UH, EVERYBODY THUMBS UP ON THAT ONE? GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SO Y'ALL, EVERYBODY, WE ARE AT 4 23 RIGHT NOW AND, UH, GIVEN THE, THE TIME OF DAY INSTEAD OF MOVING INTO THE NEXT, UH, NEXT ITEM. 
          GOOD, GOOD WITH MOVING THE REST OF THESE STUFF TO, UH, TUESDAYS. 
          I'M VERY GOOD WITH MOVING IT TO TUESDAY. 
          EVERYBODY ELSE GOOD? MOVING TO MOVING THE REST OF THE REMAINING ITEMS TO THE TUESDAY MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          Y'ALL GOOD? OKAY. 
          WHATEVER. 
          YEAH, GOOD. 
          SEE, AND YOU CAUSED SOME OF THAT, SO VERY GOOD. 
          SO.
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