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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ORDER.
AS WE DO WITH ALL, UM, MEETINGS, WE WILL BEGIN WITH PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
THANK GOD THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SERVES IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO THE TOWN EVALUATING, PLANNING, ZONING, AND SUBDIVISION PROPOSALS, AND PRESENTING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON MATTERS OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT POLICY.
THE COMMISSION'S PRIMARY OBJECTIVE IS TO ENSURE RESPONSIBLE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT BY ADHERING TO ESTABLISHED PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND OVERSEEING THE ADMINISTRATION OF ZONING AND SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
THESE EFFORTS ARE INTENDED TO UPHOLD THE SAFETY, WELFARE, AND OVERALL WELLBEING OF THE RESIDENTS, THE WORKFORCE, AND THE VISITORS.
UM, DURING THE MEETING, IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE MEETING, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT A, UM, COMMENT CARD OVER WITH LESLIE AND TEAM, AND YOU WILL GET THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, UM, AND REFRAIN FROM ASKING THE COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS.
HOWEVER, COMMISSIONERS AT THE DISCRETION MAY ASK YOU QUESTIONS.
ANY ANSWERS WILL NOT CONSTITUTE, CONSTITUTE AGAINST YOUR THREE MINUTES.
OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM ON THE CONSIDER ACTION ON THE MINUTES FOR THE MAY 19TH, 2026, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THAT? NO.
I MOVE APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. HOLD A HEARING, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO REPL 12 DASH, NO, EXCUSE ME, 12 DOT 2 22 ACRES.
12 POINT 222 ACRES LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF ADDISON ROAD AND XCEL PARKWAY.
INTERSECTION CASE, SUBR DASH 2026 DASH 0 0 0 4 SLASH INNOVATION CENTER.
UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS CO BACK ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
TONIGHT I HAVE A REPL REQUEST FOR, UH, THE INNOVATION CENTER.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED, UH, WITH THE, WITH THIS APPLICATION TO SPLIT THE PROPERTY INTO TWO DIFFERENT LOTS.
UM, HOWEVER, THE PLAT IS NOT READY FOR APPROVAL YET.
UM, IT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE, UM, JUST YET.
SO THEY HAVE REQUESTED AN EXTENSION TO THE NEXT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, WE DID NOTICE THIS FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THERE WERE 12 NOTICES SENT OUT.
WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM ANY OF THOSE APPLICANTS, NOR HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY INPUT FORM ANY RESIDENTS.
AND, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF IT OR ANYTHING, I CAN ANSWER THIS.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? DON'T WE HAVE TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST TECHNICALLY, OR, YES.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? ANYONE ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? NO.
WITHOUT THAT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING AND I'LL ASK FOR MOTION.
I JUST DON'T WANNA BE THE MOTION GUY.
UM, I, YEAH, I MOVE APPROVAL, UH, OF A 30 DAY EXTENSION FOR THIS.
YOU HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
NEXT, PRINT, PRESENT, DISCUSS, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE 2026 MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
BECKY, GET THE PRESENTATION UP.
ALRIGHTY RIGHTY, GOOD EVENING.
BECKY DIVINITY, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING.
UM, I'M HERE TODAY TO BRING YOU THE UPDATE TO THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
AS YOU'RE AWARE OF, THIS IS REALLY THE ROADMAP THAT HA UH, HELPS MAKE OUR ROADWAYS SAFER, MORE ENJOYABLE, UM, AND CONNECT PEOPLE, NOT ONLY CONNECT 'EM TO THEIR JAWS, BUT TO THEIR HOMES.
AND ALSO TO HELP KEEP ADDISON.
UM, ONE OF OUR STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES, WHICH IS VIBRANT AND A WELCOMING PLACE TO WORK, VISIT, LIVE AND PLAY.
THE OVERALL FUNCTIONS OF A MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN ARE TO EVALUATE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS WE HAVE TODAY AND INCORPORATE
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THE COMMUNITY INPUT, DEVELOP FLEXIBLE ROADWAY CROSS SECTIONS, UM, WHICH IS VERY HELPFUL THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.CREATE A THOROUGHFARE PLAN, UM, WHICH HELPS TO BE A GUIDING PRINCIPLE OR A GUIDING DOCUMENT.
UM, CREATE AN ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
WE'VE ALSO CREATED A PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX, WHICH IS SOMETHING NEW TO THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
UM, AND THAT TRAFFIC CALMING TOOLBOX.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AS TO HOW WE MOVE, UM, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL LITTLE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE FORWARD.
JUST AS AN OVERVIEW, UM, THE TOWN HIRED KIMLEY HORN ASSOCIATES BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 20, UH, FOUR.
UM, WE WENT THROUGH AND AS A PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT STATES THAT THE MTP SHALL BE ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE, NOT RESOLUTION, UM, TYPO AFTER REVIEWING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO TONIGHT.
UM, AND THEN A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD AT CITY COUNCIL NEXT WEEK ON THE 28TH.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE PROJECT SCHEDULE.
WE'VE HAD HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UM, MEETINGS THAT STARTED BACK LAST SEPTEMBER.
UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, I WAS HERE IN DECEMBER, UH, SPEAKING WITH ALL OF YOU.
UM, WE DID TAKE THE PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX AND CROSSING TREATMENT GUIDELINE, UM, THROUGH THE OVERALL COUNCIL PROCESS WHERE THAT WAS A ADOPTED BACK IN APRIL.
AND WE'VE ALREADY STARTED IMPLEMENTING, UM, SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED IN THAT OVERALL DOCUMENT.
UM, WE'RE HERE TODAY AND THEN, LIKE I MENTIONED, NEXT WEEK, I'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, HOPEFUL ADOPTION OF THE OVERALL MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN AT THAT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM NOT ONLY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, BUT ALSO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, STAFF HAD A NUMBER OF COMMENTS.
WE HAD A LARGE WORKING GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS FROM NOT ONLY THE, THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TEAM, BUT ALSO THE PARKS TEAM, UM, INPUT FROM OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND JUST DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT ALL WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO REALLY MAKE THIS PLAN WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE.
UM, FROM AN IMPLEMENTATION STANDPOINT.
UM, YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT THE LAST TIME AN MTP WAS PUT THROUGH THE PROCESS WAS IN 2016, SO IT'S BEEN 10 YEARS SINCE THIS HAS BEEN TAKEN THROUGH THE PROCESS.
UM, SO WE DID MAKE SOME UPDATES TO THE OVERALL PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX BY ADDING LIGHTING TO THAT.
REC, UH, WE RECEIVED, WE LOOKED AT THE SPEED LIMIT RECOMMENDATIONS.
THERE WERE SOME TOPICS, DISCUSSION ALONG ARAPAHO SPECIFICALLY.
UM, WE ALSO LOOKED AT AND REVISED SOME OF THE, UM, IMPLEMENTATION AND REFERENCE OF THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE ROADWAY, UPDATED SOME OF THE PEDESTRIAN PROJECTS THAT WERE REQUESTED.
I KNOW HERE AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PEDESTRIAN PROJECTS THAT WERE REQUESTED ALONG BELTLINE.
UM, AND THEN ONE THAT CAME UP DURING COUNCIL, WHICH IS ONE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE FOCUSING IN ON NEXT YEAR, WAS AT ADDISON CIRCLE ROAD, OR ADDISON CIRCLE AND ADDISON ROAD.
UM, IF YOU HAVE BEEN IN THAT AREA SPEC SPECIFICALLY NOW, BECAUSE, UM, OF TOWN HALL BEING LOCATED HERE, THERE IS A LOT OF MOVEMENT BETWEEN GALAXY, UM, AND NOW THAT THE BUS IS LOCATED ON ADDISON ROAD, THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE ACTUALLY WALKING AND USING SOME OF THOSE AREAS.
SO THAT'S A BIG TICKET PROJECT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON.
UM, WE UPDATED THE PLAN TO SHOW THAT THE DART SILVER LINE WAS COMPLETED.
UM, AT THE TIME THE DART SILVER LINE WASN'T COMPLETED, BUT SINCE THEN, IT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, WE HAD PUT THE PROJECT ON PAUSE AS WE WORKED THROUGH THAT WHOLE DART ELECTION PROCESS, WE CREATED THAT COMMENT RESPONSE LOG THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE IN YOUR BACKUP.
UM, AND THEN WE INCORPORATED ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED.
UM, AS YOU KNOW AND ARE VERY AWARE, IT'S VERY CRITICAL THAT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PLANS COORDINATE TOGETHER.
SO THERE WAS INTEGRATION NOT ONLY WITH THE 2016 PLAN, ALSO WITH, UM, THE UDC, UM, AND THEN THE 2021 CITYWIDE TRAILS MASTER PLAN.
AND I MENTIONED THIS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IN SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, BUT THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN IS REALLY WORKING ON THE TRAIL SYSTEM THAT'S, UM, NOT LOCATED ON THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND SO WE WANT THAT CONNECTIVE TISSUE BETWEEN WHAT'S LOCATED ON THE RIGHT OF WAY, GIVING YOU ACCESS TO GET, GET INTO SOME OF THOSE MORE BEAUTIFUL GREEN SPACES.
UM, THEN ALSO IT LOOKS AT SOME OF THE REGIONAL PLANS.
SO YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THIS, BUT MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLANS REALLY KIND OF, UM, FOLD INTO EACH OTHER.
THIS PLAN FOLDS INTO THE OVERALL COUNTY PLAN, WHICH THEN FOLDS INTO THE OVERALL PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE REGION.
UM, FROM A, A COG A COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT'S PERSPECTIVE, WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
WE HELD MEETINGS TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK, UM, AND HAD OPPORTUNITIES TO GET FEEDBACK FROM DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.
WE USED THE GUIDANCE FROM THE ADDISON, UM, ADVANCED ADDISON 2050.
UM, WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A MULTIMODAL NETWORK.
SO MULTIMODAL IS KIND OF A BUZZWORD, BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT'S BIKING, WALKING, DRIVING, RIDING A BUS, ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN GET AROUND.
FROM A TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVE, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOCUS, UM, WHERE FOLKS THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE ONLY DRIVING VEHICLES, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT TRUE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT MODES.
AND SO HOW DO WE GET ALL THESE PLANS TO SYNC TOGETHER? UM, WE WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT HAVING THE DART SILVER LINE EDITION ON BOARD BECAUSE THAT ALSO HELPED US LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO
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HAVE PEOPLE GET TO THAT LOCATION WITH THE COTTON BELT TRAIL AND HOW WE CAN HAVE THAT CONNECTIVE TISSUE.WE ANALYZED A LOT OF DIFFERENT INFORMATION.
WE HAVE A TRAFFIC COUNTS DASHBOARD THAT'S LOCATED ON OUR TOWN'S WEBSITE WHERE WE TOOK THE DATA FROM THERE.
UM, ALSO LOOKING AT DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE CRASH DATA, TRAFFIC PATTERNS, UM, SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT COME THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING A CROSS SECTION THAT IS MORE FLEXIBLE.
WHEN YOU'RE VERY RIGID AND YOU SAY A LANE CAN ONLY BE THIS WIDE AND YOU CAN ONLY HAVE THIS WIDE OF A SIDEWALK AND YOU CAN ONLY DO THESE THINGS, IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT, ESPECIALLY IN YOUR SEAT, AS DIFFERENT PROJECTS COME THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO MAKE THAT MI TO MAKE THAT MIX AND MATCH WITHIN THAT OVERALL, UH, FOLD.
SO KEEP IN MIND WE ARE TRYING TO LOOK AT IT MORE FROM LIKE A RECIPE YOU'RE BUILDING, UM, INSTEAD OF IT BEING SO SPECIFIC AND SO CUT AND DRY.
AND THEN LIKE I MENTIONED, THAT CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL COLLABORATION WAS KEY.
UM, WORKING WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT FOLKS, LOOKING AT THE LAND USE, LOOKING AT THE PARKS, LOOKING AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEED.
SO THE CREATION OF THE PLAN, I'VE SAID THIS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES, THAT FLEXIBLE CROSS SECTION IS SOMETHING I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT.
UM, WE SET GOALS FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
WE CREATED THAT THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHICH IS THAT BIKE AND WALK, UM, THAT TRAFFIC, CALM, CALMING TOOLBOX.
UM, WHAT HELPS WITH THAT IS IT HELPS IN AREAS WHERE WE HEAR CONCERNS.
WE WORK VERY HEAVILY WITH, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHEN THERE'S DIFFERENT SPEEDING CONCERNS THAT ARE BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.
UM, AND THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO USE FROM AN ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO KEEP IN MIND, SOMETIMES IT'S THE CHARACTERISTIC OF THE ROADWAY.
A STRAIGHT ROADWAY THAT'S WIDER SOMETIMES TENDS TO MAKE FOLKS WANNA DRIVE A LITTLE BIT FASTER.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
WE DEVELOPED AND RECOMMENDED THESE NEW SPEED LIMITS IN A COUPLE OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS.
UM, AND THEN I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX.
I THINK I MENTIONED THIS TO Y'ALL BEFORE.
UM, WHEN WE PUT THIS TOGETHER, IT WAS JUST KIND OF A BRAINCHILD.
I HAVE LITERALLY MY FIRST COUNCIL MEETING WHEN, UM, I STARTED, I HADN'T EVEN BEEN HERE A WEEK.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MENTIONED WAS, HEY, WE REALLY WANNA SEE HOW WE CAN GET SOME MORE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY.
AND SO I WENT TO THE CONSULTANT AND SAID, SURELY YOU CAN GIVE ME A BAG OF TRICKS THAT WHEN I GO IN TO LOOK AT, UM, DEVELOPING A ROADWAY OR OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS A PROJECT THAT'S COMING THROUGH, OR WE'RE GETTING A CONCERN, CAN WE PULL FROM THIS BAG OF TRICKS? SO THAT'S WHERE THAT TOOLBOX CAME FROM.
AND THEN HELPING THEM WITH THAT CROSSING GUIDELINE.
SO EVERY PROJECT WE HAVE COMING THROUGH IS NOW FOLLOWING THAT GUIDELINE AND THEN ULTIMATELY THAT PEDESTRIAN PLAN.
SO THOSE, UM, DIFFERENT NUMBERS THAT YOU MENTIONED ON THE MAP EARLIER, UM, THEY'RE JUST NUMBERS THAT HELP US LOCATE WHAT THAT IS WITH WHAT TYPE OF FHWA RECOMMENDATION CAN BE MADE.
SO AS YOU'RE AWARE, THERE'S SIX DIFFERENT TYPES OF FLEXIBLE CROSS SECTIONS.
JUST KEEP IN MIND MOST OF THE ONES YOU'LL SEE IN THIS AREA ARE MORE RESIDENTIAL, LOCAL RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR.
THERE'S SOME MINOR ARTERIALS, BUT THE BIGGER ROADWAYS ARE REALLY NOT WHAT YOU SEE.
UM, TYPICALLY IN, UH, THE AREAS OF THAT THAT ARE OF INFLUENCE IN ADDISON.
UM, THE GOALS WERE TO INCREASE THAT FLEXIBILITY, MAKE SURE WE CAN HELP HOLD DEVELOPERS ACCOUNTABLE, RIGHT? THEY WANT SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN DESIGN TO, BUT THEY ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE CLEAR, UH, MEASURE MEASURES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT FORWARD AND ENFORCE THOSE STANDARDS.
SO I KNOW LESLIE AND COREY AND JADE DEFINITELY THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT, UM, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE PUT FORWARD IS NOT SO AS I MENTIONED, CUT AND DRY, NOT SO COOKIE CUTTER.
SO IT HELPS THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND THEN OVERALL, UM, HELP MEET THOSE NEW AND RECONSTRUCTED ST STREET STANDARDS TO MAKE IT SAFE TO WALK OR BIKE.
UM, ALONG WITH THAT QUALITY OF STREET, THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'RE PRETTY AWARE OF WHAT IT IS.
IT JUST TALKS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT CROSS, UH, CROSS SECTIONS.
UM, THERE'S SOME NEW CLASSIFICATIONS.
WE INTRODUCED THIS URBAN, LOCAL AND URBAN COLLECTOR TO MAKE MORE WALKABLE MIXED USE AREAS.
UM, WE'LL CONTINUE TO UPDATE AND DEVELOP OUR STANDARDS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY FOR DEVELOPERS TO SHARE, UM, THAT INFORMATION AND THAT OUR TOWN SPECIFICATIONS ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO LOOK AT FUTURE SEGMENTS.
UM, SO YOU CAN TELL THROUGH THE MAP THERE'S SOME FUTURE, UH, ROADWAYS THAT MAYBE NEED TO BE WIDENED OR THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED IN THE WAY THAT THE CHARACTERISTIC IS TODAY.
UM, AND, AND WORK THROUGH THIS OVERALL PROPOSED THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, IT REALLY INCORPORATES EVERYTHING THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER IN THAT 2021 MASTER UH, TRAILS PLAN.
UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME RECENT BICYCLE AND TRAIL PROJECTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED.
UM, SOME MIDWAY SHARED USE PASS, THE TRU TRIVIAN CONNECTIONS.
WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FROM A LONG RANGE PLANNING PERSPECTIVE.
WHERE CAN WE GET FOLKS AROUND, LIKE I MENTIONED, WITH OTHER WAYS OTHER THAN JUST VEHICLES.
THE TRAFFIC CALMING TOOLBOX REALLY WAS TO HELP FIND WAYS TO REDUCE SPEED AND IMPROVE SAFETY.
UM, AND SO WE LOOKED AT REALLY THOSE FOUR CATEGORIES.
SPEED MANAGEMENT, ROADWAY DELINEATION
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TOOLS LIKE PAVEMENT MARKERS, DIVIDERS, MEDIANS, UM, INTERSECTION TOOLS.ROUNDABOUTS ARE REALLY POPULAR TO HELP, UH, SLOW PEOPLE DOWN, BUT THEY TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE.
UM, BUT WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE CURB EXTENSIONS RIGHT OUT HERE.
UM, IN MAA YOU CAN SEE SOME CURB EXTENSIONS AND THAT DOES HELP FROM TIME TO TIME TO SLOW DOWN THE ROADWAY, UM, IN STREET CROSSWALKS INSTEAD OF AT, UM, EITHER A FOUR-WAY OR A SIGNALED INTERSECTION.
UM, AND THEN PEDESTRIAN REFUGE ISLANDS IS A SAFE SPACE IN BETWEEN ROADWAYS WHERE FOLKS COULD ACTUALLY STAND IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN LOOK AT ENHANCEMENT TOOLS.
UM, SOME OF THE TEXTURIZED PAVEMENT DOES TEND TO HELP WITH, UM, SLOWING FOLKS DOWN TREES AND LANDSCAPING, UM, ALSO HAS THAT ABILITY.
SO HOW ARE PEOPLE GETTING INTO THE AREA AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE GATEWAY TREATMENTS THAT CAN BE USED? UM, JUST TO HELP WITH THE OVERALL TRAFFIC, CALMING SPEED LIMIT EVALUATION, I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.
UM, WE HAVE SOME OF THE SPEED LIMITS AND KIND OF WHAT THAT 85TH PERCENTILE WAS AND WHAT THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT WAS.
THIS WAS JUST AN OVERALL EVALUATION THAT WAS DONE.
UM, THE NEW TEXAS UNI, UM, UNIFORM MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES, UM, BASICALLY GIVES SOME GUIDANCE THAT ALLOW SOME FLEXIBILITY AND SOME MORE ENGINEERING JUDGMENT INSTEAD OF THE HARD, FAST 85TH PERCENTILE, WHICH IS VERY HELPFUL.
UM, SO WE LOOKED AT THAT ALONG WITH SPEED DATA.
UM, AND REALLY WE CAME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE WE HAD, UM, A LOT OF COMMENTS AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WORK THROUGH.
UM, SO THE EXISTING SPEED LIMIT ON WEST GROVE AND KELLER SPRINGS AND AIRPORT PARKWAY ARE ALL 40 MILES PER HOUR TODAY.
UM, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE LOWERED, UM, TO 35 MILES PER HOUR, UM, ALONG WITH MARSH LANE AND IN THE SECTION OF MARSH LANE OF WHICH THE TOWN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.
AND THEN SPECTRUM AND ADDISON CIRCLE ARE ALSO GONNA BE LOWERED FROM 30 MILES PER HOUR TO 25 MILES PER HOUR.
AND THIS IS SPECIFICALLY IN THE AREAS THAT ARE LISTED WITHIN THE PROJECT LIMITS.
AND THEN THE PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX, YOU CAN SEE LOTS OF DIFFERENT, UM, TOOLS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
THE PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON, THE LPI, WHICH IS THE LEADING PEDESTRIAN INTERVAL, WHICH GIVES A INDIVIDUAL LONGER TIME TO GET ACROSS THE CROSSWALK, THOSE CURB EXTENSIONS, LIGHTING, UM, ENHANCED SIDEWALKS, CURB RAMPS.
SO LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS AS WE LOOK AT WAYS WE CAN IMPROVE CROSSWALKS THAT WE CAN PULL FROM THIS DOCUMENT.
AND THEN THE GUIDELINES, THEY REALLY HELP US AND WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS ON ANY TIME WE HAVE AN OVERALL CROSSING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
UM, ANYTHING THAT WE RECEIVE FEEDBACK ON.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DASHBOARD THAT GOES INTO FIVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF PROJECTS.
AND IF A PROJECT COMES UP, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE PLANNED, WE'RE USING THIS TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE CROSSING IS NEEDED OR WHERE IT'S BEEN NOTIFIED THAT IT'S NEEDED.
LOOK AT THE SPEED, THE VOLUME, THE SAFETY AND ALL THE A DA CONCERNS THAT MIGHT BE IN THAT AREA.
UM, AND THEN LOOK AT THE OVERALL COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
SOME OBVIOUSLY WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY MORE IF IT'S IN AN AREA OF WHICH MORE PEOPLE ARE USING.
UM, SELECT THAT RIGHT SIZE TREATMENT USING THAT OVERALL PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX.
AND THEN IMPLEMENT AND MONITOR, WHICH DELIVER THE OVERALL PROJECT, MEASURE IT, WATCH IT, EVALUATE IT.
'CAUSE THAT'S A CONSTANT PROCESS.
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO MAKE UPDATES AND THEN REFINE IT.
SO THOSE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS YOU SEE ON THE MAP, UM, LIKE I MENTIONED A COUPLE OF THEM, UH, I BELIEVE 28 WAS ONE THAT THIS OVERALL GROUP REALLY ASKED TO HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON, WHICH IS IN THE BELTLINE OAKS NORTH AREA.
TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE IN THAT AREA SO THAT THE SIDEWALK IS JUST NOT RIGHT UP AGAINST THE CURB.
AND ARE THERE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE IN THAT AREA? THESE ARE NO WAY IN ORDER OF WHICH, UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING THESE PROJECTS.
UM, BLUE STANDS FOR FUTURE CROSSING EVALUATION.
THAT MEANS IT'S SOMETHING WE KNOW THAT'S OUT THERE, BUT IT'S NOT CURRENTLY ON OUR RADAR TO DO IMMEDIATELY.
AND SOMETHING THAT MIGHT COME UP AS OVERALL DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, OR, UM, A DIFFERENT ROADWAY NETWORK IS PUT IN THAT AREA.
UM, ORANGE IS A CROSSING IMPROVEMENT, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT EXISTS TODAY, BUT NEEDS SOME IMPROVEMENT DONE TO IT.
SO WE'LL USE THAT TOOLBOX TO PULL THAT IN.
AND THEN THE GRAIN SHOWS, UM, PROPOSED NEW CROSSINGS.
AND AS I MENTIONED, UM, THE PROPOSED NEW CROSSING, UM, THAT ONE OF THE PROPOSED NEW CROSSINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, IS THAT THE QUORUM AREA? THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHERS THAT ARE LISTED ON HERE.
UM, ONE OF 'EM, I GUESS AT QUORUM AND LANDMARK IS KIND OF AT THE TAIL END, SO WE'LL BE INCORPORATING THAT WITH THE OVERALL QUORUM PROJECT.
SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE THROUGHOUT THE, UM, MAP TOO.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING US TO, UM, TAKE THE TIME TO BRING FORWARD, UM, SOME OF THE UPDATES THAT WE'VE MADE TO THE PLAN.
UM, AND WE ARE SEEKING YOUR, UM, RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO COUNCIL, UM, SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH TAKING THIS FORWARD NEXT WEEK.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU SPEAK TO TIMING ON THE ROADWAYS THAT THE SPEED LIMITS ARE GETTING CHANGED AND HOW YOU WILL BE IMPLEMENTING THAT? UH, SURE.
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COUNCIL ADOPTS THE PLAN, WE WILL FINALIZE THE PLAN, UM, AND THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH AN ORDINANCE ADOPTION.SO SPEED LIMITS ARE ACTUALLY REGULATED THROUGH THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE.
AND SO WE'LL WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, ENSURE THAT THE OVERALL ORDINANCE IS CORRECT AND UPDATED, AND THEN WE WILL BRING THAT ORDINANCE FORWARD TO COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION.
SO IT HAS TO GO THROUGH A FORMAL PROCESS.
I EXPECT, UM, THAT AS SOON AS WE GET THIS COMPLETED, IT WILL PROBABLY BE THE SECOND COUNCIL MEETING IN AUGUST BEFORE WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THAT ORDINANCE, UH, DOCUMENT FORWARD.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL ULTIMATELY ORDER ALL THE SIGNS AND AS SOON AS THEY'RE AVAILABLE AND READY, WE WILL WORK TO, UH, GET THOSE TAKEN CARE OF.
I, I HAVE A JUST QUICK QUESTION AS TO PROCESS.
SO, UM, ON YOUR OVERVIEW SLIDE, YOU SAID THAT WE ARE ADOPTING THIS BY, UM, BY ORDINANCE, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
IS THAT HISTORICALLY THE WAY WE HAVE ADOPTED TRANSPORTATION PLANS, UNIFIED CODED, THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN BY ORDINANCE? YES, SIR.
THAT ACTUALLY IS, UM, THEY ARE ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE.
SO THEY'RE NOT POLICY DOCUMENTS, THEY'RE BINDING DOCUMENTS, THEY'RE BINDING AND DIRECT.
IT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE CORRELATION BETWEEN, UM, THE IMPACT THEY HAVE WITH THE UDC AND THE ADVANCED ADDISON 2050.
AND SO, UM, WE NEED THEM TO BE A, NOT A GUIDANCE DOCUMENT.
WE NEED TO BE THEM A REGULATED DOCUMENT THAT ACTUALLY CAN BE ENFORCED.
SO IF YOU HAVE A SPEED LIMIT RECOMMENDATION IN THIS DOCUMENT, UM, THAT IN EFFECT WOULD ALSO HAVE, IF WE WANTED TO CHANGE THAT SPEED LIMIT, WE'D ALSO HAVE TO CHANGE THIS DOCUMENT.
IS THAT CORRECT? UM, IF THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION OF A CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE TO A SPEED LIMIT, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DONE THROUGH AN EVALUATION PROCESS.
AND THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE CHANGED WITHIN THIS SPECIFIC DOCUMENT.
WE JUST MADE RECENT CHANGES, UM, TO THE OVERALL SPEEDS ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ROADWAYS, BUT THEY'RE BASED ON A, A SPEED STUDY THAT WOULD BE PERFORMED, AN ENGINEERING RECOMMENDATION, AND THEY WOULD BE CHANGED WITHIN THE ORDINANCE.
UM, AND THEN IF THIS DOCUMENT CAME FORWARD FOR AN UPDATE AT SOME PERIOD OF TIME, THEN WE WOULD MAKE THAT MODIFICATION.
BUT THE DOCUMENT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS TO BE UPDATED.
AND SARAH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN NEED TO CLARIFY WITH THAT GO FORWARD.
SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT, UM, IN THE ME TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT REFER BACK TO THE UDC, AND THEY ARE TYPICALLY DONE BY ORDINANCE.
UM, THERE IS SOME UP AND DOWN, UH, WITH, UM, OTHER ADVICE OF WHETHER IT HAS TO BE ABOUT ORDINANCE.
BUT IN ADDISON, THE WAY THAT THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE READS, IT SAYS THAT THE TOWN MAY, UM, ADOPT COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AND IT CAN HAVE THE LAND USE PLAN, IT CAN HAVE PARKS PLANS, IT CAN HAVE THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLANS.
THEY'RE ALL CONSIDERED COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING.
AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SAYS THAT IF THE TOWN DOES DECIDE TO ADOPT THOSE, IT MAY BE ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE.
SO THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME GENERAL THINGS WHERE IT'S ADOPTED, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE GENERAL.
UM, IF THIS DOCUMENT SAID THE SPEED LIMIT SHALL BE THIS AMOUNT ON THIS STREET AND SHALL NOT BE CHANGED EXCEPT BY ORDINANCE, THEN YES, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND AMEND THIS AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE AMENDED THE CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT SPEED LIMITS.
BUT THIS IS MORE GENERAL IN THAT CATEGORY AND IT'S LIKE, THIS IS WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT SHOULD BE AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, OF CHANGING THE CODE TO COMPLY WITH THIS DOCUMENT.
AND I THINK THERE WAS ALSO SOME CONFU, SOME CONFUSION.
I THINK, UM, THE LAST MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN WAS ACTUALLY ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION, BUT THE DOCUMENT ITSELF SAYS THAT IT WAS ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE.
SO THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION THERE, BUT THEY ARE TYPICALLY DONE BY ORDINANCE.
BUT THE LAST ONE WAS NOT DONE THAT WAY, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.
THAT WAS MY, THE SOURCE OF QUESTION, THE LAND USE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE OTHER COMP PLANS WERE DONE BY ORDINANCE, BUT THIS ONE JUST WASN'T.
UM, BECKY, GREAT JOB ON THIS PLAN.
LIKE I SAID, I LIKED IT WHEN YOU SAW IT OR WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT FIRST TIME.
UM, SO THAT'S OFF TO YOU AND THE STAFF.
UM, I HAD A VERY GRANULAR QUESTION.
I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS COVERED IN THE, UH, THE SPREADSHEET WITH THE QUESTIONS OR NOT.
I MENTIONED, UH, SOMETHING ABOUT HOW IT'S DIFFICULT TO ACTIVATE THE BIKE LANE SIGNAL ON, UH, BELTLINE AND BELTWAY GOING NORTH TOWARDS, UM, UH, TOWARDS THE AIRPORT.
UH, WHEN, WHEN I'M ONLY ON A BIKE, HAS THAT BEEN PUT IN THE PLAN, KIND OF UPDATING THE SIGNAL SO LIKE A SINGLE BIKE COULD START THE CLOCK WITHOUT HAVING TO WALK OVER TO THE PEDESTRIAN, A THING IN CROSS.
SO THOSE WILL BE THINGS THAT ARE MORE OF A MAINTENANCE RELATED ITEM THAN DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE PLANS.
SO WE ARE HAPPY TO, UM, ADDRESS THAT FROM A MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE, BUT NOT, THAT'S REALLY NOT A SPECIFIC ITEM THAT'S, UM, A PART OF THE PLAN.
WELL WE CAN ADDRESS THAT LATER THEN.
UH, THEN THAT, MY SECOND QUESTION IS PROBABLY ALSO MAINTENANCE, BUT MY LAST ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW DO Y'ALL,
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UH, MON YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY AND I KIND OF GET FROM A HIGH PERSPECTIVE OF HOW YOU GET THE CARS THAT COME BY.YOU KIND OF LAY OUT THE WIRES.
BUT IF WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE A HA HAZARD A GUESS, OR GET SOME DATA ON BIKE TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, WHAT ME, WHAT OBJECTIVE MEASURES ARE THERE TO GATHER THAT KIND OF DATA? SO THE SAME WAY THAT YOU DO A TRAFFIC COUNT, YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO PEDESTRIAN COUNTS AND AS A PART OF OUR OVERALL PEDESTRIAN DASHBOARD MM-HMM
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COLUMN THAT'S LISTED.
IF IT'S AN AREA THAT WE ARE NOT QUITE SURE EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT AREA, OR IT MAY BE A NEW AREA WHERE WE THINK THERE'S AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO A, A PEDESTRIAN COUNT.
UM, SOMETIMES THERE'S TUBES USED, SOMETIMES THERE'S ACTUALLY CAMERAS USED THAT ARE COLLECTING THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION.
UM, SO IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SPECIFIC LOCATION AND WHAT ACCESS WE HAVE TO WHAT TOOLS THERE.
BUT THEY'RE DEFINITELY OUT THERE.
UM, AS FAR AS BICYCLES, SIMILAR THING CAN BE DONE, UM, IF IT'S WITHIN A BIKE LANE.
NOW WHEN IT GETS A LITTLE TOUGH AS IF IT'S A SHERO OR SOMETHING WHERE SOMEONE'S RIDING ON A ROADWAY, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT UNLESS THERE'S A SPECIFIC CAMERA THERE.
I'M COLLECTING THAT INFORMATION.
IT WAS GOOD TO HEAR THAT'S ON THE, UH, DASHBOARD.
'CAUSE I THINK HAVING THAT OBJECTIVE INFORMATION, WE'LL PROBABLY ADVANCE ALL DISCUSSIONS AT THE POLICY LEVEL IN THE FUTURE.
LIKE SAVE US ALL LIKE TWO HOURS
UM, IN THE PROPOSED CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, WERE THERE SHOWN ON THE MAP, UM, THERE, IF THERE, UH, IF THERE IS ALREADY A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE NOW? YES SIR.
IT'S NOT, UM, UM, IT WOULD STILL BE SHOWN IN THE DIAGRAM THAT IT HAS A LIGHT, YOU'RE NOT ADDING A LIGHT, YOU'RE JUST THAT'S CORRECT.
SHOWING THAT IT'S, THERE'S, SO FOR EXAMPLE, AN ORANGE STAR, RIGHT? THAT SHOWS AN EXISTING CROSSING IMPROVEMENT, UH, IT SHOWS A CROSSING IMPROVEMENT, RIGHT? THAT MEANS THAT MORE THAN LIKELY THERE'S ALREADY A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE OR A STOP SIGN THERE, BUT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY PLEASED WITH THE AMOUNT OF PAINT YOU EITHER SEE ON THE GROUND OR THE SIGNAGE.
OR WE MAY THINK THAT THE SIGNAL NEEDS LONGER TIME FOR A LEADING PEDESTRIAN IN INTERVAL SO THAT A, UM, PE PEDESTRIAN HAS A LONGER TIME TO BE ABLE TO GET ACROSS THAT AREA.
SAY IT'S A SIX LANE ROADWAY, RIGHT? SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE SEE THAT NOW WE NEED TO TAKE THESE TOOLS.
MAYBE IT'S SOME A DA RAMPS, MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE CORRECT CURB RAMPS, SO MAYBE IT WAS DESIGNED, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT TOOLS THAT WE THINK ARE GONNA MAKE THAT INTERSECTION MORE SUCCESSFUL.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S SHOWING AS AN IMPROVEMENT.
AND YOU CAN TELL FROM THE LITTLE DIFFERENT, UM, CIRCLES ON THE NEXT TO THOSE STARS, UM, THAT KIND OF HELPS DENOTE WHAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
AND SO IF YOU SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, ON ANY OF THESE, IF YOU GO BACK TO THIS, IT'S THE EXACT SAME DIAGRAM MM-HMM
SO YOU CAN THEN TELL WHAT WE PLAN TO DO AT THESE INTERSECTIONS.
UM, I BELIEVE THE TOWN IS IMPLEMENTING A TRAFFIC CAMERA SYSTEM OR HAS ONE IS NOW RE RE-ENGAGING WITH IT.
IT MAY BE MORE DRIVEN BY, UH, CRIME AND POLICE ENFORCEMENT.
DO YOU INTEGRATE ALL THAT INTO YOUR TRAFFIC MASTER PLAN? THE TRAFFIC COUNTS DASHBOARD IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT OUR TEAM, UM, COLLECTED ALL OF THE TRAFFIC COUNTS DATA.
THE DASHBOARD IS, UM, LOCATED ON THE PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING WEBSITE WHERE ANYBODY CAN GO IN AT ANY TIME AND LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC COUNTS.
REALLY THE COORDINATION WE HAVE WITH PD IS MORE SPECIFIC TO CRASH DATA AND WE ALL USE INEX, WHICH IS THE SAME CRASH DATA THAT PD USES.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE IF THERE'S A SPEEDING CONCERN, UM, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD GET DIRECTLY WITH PD AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL US THE NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED OR IF THEY'VE EXPERIENCED SOMETHING THEMSELVES.
ANYTIME WE HAVE A COMPLAINT COME IN, THAT'S A COORDINATION EFFORT WE DO BECAUSE WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT THE ONES WHO DO THE ENFORCEMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY, THANK YOU BECKY.
WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
HAVE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE MATTER CARDS.
HAVING SEEN NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THIS.
UH, ANY OTHER THINGS FROM COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION.
NEXT ON THE AGENDA, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO REZONE A 11.6 PLUS OR MINUS ACRE PROPERTY, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF DALLAS PARKWAY IN
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INCEL PARKWAY.ADDRESS IS 1 6 6 4 1 DALLAS PARKWAY.
FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE 0 2 0 DASH 47 TO A NEW PLAN PD DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR A DEVELOPMENT COMPRISED OF 186 AGE RESTRICTED MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNITS, 180 TOWN HOMES AND ASSOCIATED PRIVATE OPEN SPACE AND COMMON AREAS THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND STANDARDS CASE 1953 DASH Z UH, ADDISON GREEN PD.
AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO LESLIE, UM, CHAIR.
WE WILL ALSO BE, UH, PRESENTING ITEM FIVE CONCURRENTLY.
UM, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE READ THAT IN FOR THE RECORD AS WELL.
UH, ADDITIONALLY WE'LL BE DISCUSSING AND HEARING MATTERS ON HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING AND PRESENT AND DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ADVANCE ADDISON 2050 TO MODIFY THE PLACE TYPE MAP DESIGNATION FROM HIGH DENSE, HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CENTER TO URBAN VILLAGE FOR A 11.6 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF DALLAS PARKWAY AND EXCEL PARKWAY ADDRESS AS 1 6 6 4 1 DALLAS PARKWAY.
CASE CPA 2026 DASH ONE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT DASH ADDISON GREEN.
OKAY, WITH THAT, LESLIE, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
I, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
UM, AS THE CHAIR NOTED, UH, WE'LL BE PRESENTING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST FOR, UM, ADDISON GREEN.
UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DOES FRONT ON THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY.
UM, IT IS BORDERED BY ADDISON ROAD AND XCEL PARKWAY TO THE NORTH.
UM, THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED UNDER A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THIS REQUEST WOULD REZONE THE PROPERTY TO A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH, UM, SPECIFIC USE, EXCUSE ME, PERMITTED USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT.
SO PROJECT HISTORY, UM, SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE RECALL THAT THE COMMISSION DID CONSIDER A SIMILAR BUT DIFFERENT APPLICATION, UM, IN OCTOBER OF 2025 FOR A TOWN HOME AND MULTIFAMILY PROJECT AT THE SAME SITE.
UM, IT INCLUDED APPROXIMATELY 118 FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES IN 299 MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT WAS ULTIMATELY DENIED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, AT THE TIME, UH, THE APPLICANT MADE THE DECISION TO WITHDRAW THEIR REQUEST, UM, AND SPENT SEVERAL MONTHS, UM, GENERATING THE NEW REQUEST, WHICH YOU'RE HEARING BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
AND IN APRIL THEY SUBMITTED THAT NEW REQUEST.
SO IT WAS, JUST TO REITERATE, THE PREVIOUS REQUEST WAS NEVER CONSIDERED BY CITY COUNCIL, UM, AND THE APPLICANT SIMPLY WITHDREW.
SO, UH, HISTORY ON THE SITE AS IT RELATES TO ZONING.
SO, UM, THERE IS A VERY LONG HISTORY, UM, OF VARIOUS Z ZONING CHANGES AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENTS AND SO FORTH ON THE SITE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE MOST NOTABLE WAS THE 2020 PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR SENIOR HOUSING.
WHAT THIS APPROVED, UH, WAS A 11 STORY SENIOR HOUSING FACILITY.
IT INCLUDED A VARIETY OF, UM, USES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IN TERMS OF CONTINUATION OF CARE FOR SENIORS WITH INDEPENDENT LIVING, ASSISTED LIVING AND MEMORY CARE.
UM, THERE WERE ALSO ACCESSORY USES WITHIN THAT PD.
UM, THIS IS, UH, THE APPROVED SITE PLAN, UH, WITH THAT, THAT I BELIEVE THE SOUTH SIDE WAS DESIGNATED FOR OFFICE THAT WAS, UM, QUITE INTENSE AS WELL IN TERMS OF, OF HEIGHT AND DENSITY.
SO WITH THE REQUEST, UH, THIS EVENING, THEY'RE, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE FROM THAT FORMER PD TO A NEW PD.
UM, WITH THIS THERE'LL BE TWO TRACKS, SO YOU'LL REFER, YOU WILL HEAR ME REFER TO THOSE.
TRACK ONE IS THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOME, WHICH YOU SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN.
AND TRACK TWO IS THE AGE RESTRICTED MULTIFAMILY, UM, PROJECT, WHICH YOU'LL, UH, BE REFERRED TO AS TRACK TWO.
UM, SO IN TERMS OF THE TOTAL 11, APPROXIMATELY 11.6 ACRES, 6.7 OF THAT WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE TOWN HOMES AND THE REMAINING REMAINING FOUR, APPROXIMATELY 4.9 ACRES WILL BE FOR THE SENIOR HOUSING.
UM, SO IT'S TERMS OF UNIT SPLIT, WE'RE LOOKING AT 108, UH, UNIT TOWNHOME, EXCUSE ME, 108 UNITS FOR THE THREE STORY FEE.
SIMPLE TOWNHOMES AND THE DEVELOPER FOR THE, THAT WILL BE CADENCE HOMES.
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE, UM, AGE RESTRICTED PROJECT, THERE WILL BE A HUNDRED AND 186 UNITS TOTAL.
THAT WILL BE COMPRISED OF A 184 OF THOSE UNITS WILL BE IN A FOUR STORY, UM, MULTIFAMILY BUILDING STRUCTURE.
AND THEN THERE WILL BE TWO UNITS
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WHICH SIT, UM, INDEPENDENT OF THAT IN A ONE STORY CO STRUCTURE, UH, WHICH YOU SEE KIND OF LOCATED, UM, BEHIND TO THE WHAT WOULD BE THE EAST OF THAT, UM, THE SENIOR FACILITY, THE LARGER SENIOR FACILITY.UM, ALL THE PARKING FOR THE TRACK TWO IS SURFACE PARKING AND IS PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED AND OPERATED BY SPARROW PARTNERS GOING THROUGH THE PROPOSED PERMITTED USES ON THESE TWO TRACKS.
UM, THE APPLICANTS HAVE, UM, FOUR TRACK ONE INTENDED TO USE THE M TWO ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, HOWEVER, THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY PROPOSED TO SIGNIFICANTLY NARROW THE USES TO WHAT'S LISTED HERE.
THAT INCLUDES, UM, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, UM, ACTIVE AND PASSIVE PARK SPACE, PLACE OF WORSHIP AND UTILITY AND COMMUNICATION FACILITIES.
UM, THERE IS A PROPOSAL TO ALLOW AGE RESTRICTED MULTIFAMILY, AND THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED A DEFINITION FOR WHAT THAT MEANS.
UM, AND GENERALLY THAT WOULD INCLUDE, UM, REQUIRING AT LEAST ONE INDIVIDUAL, UM, WITHIN THE UNITS TO BE AT LEAST 55 YEARS OF OLDER OR GREATER.
ADDITIONALLY, UM, AS SIMILAR TO TRACK ONE, IT WOULD ALSO PERMIT, UM, ACTIVE AND PASSIVE PARK SPACE, PLACE OF WORSHIP AND UTILITY AND COMMUNICATION FACILITIES.
SO NOW, UM, LOOKING A LITTLE BIT MORE GRANULAR AT THE INDEPENDENT TRACKS.
UM, SO WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE PROPOSED AS FAR AS THE UM, SITE PLAN OR CONCEPT PLAN IS THE 108 ACRE, EXCUSE ME, 108 UH, UNITS.
AND THEY WOULD EACH HAVE A TWO CAR ENCLOSED GARAGE, UM, ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF THOSE UNITS.
THERE WOULD ALSO BE VISITOR PARKING, UM, UM, SCATTERED THROUGHOUT, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE ACTIVATED COMMON AREAS GENERALLY IN THE MUSE BETWEEN THE TOWN HOMES, UM, AND SO FORTH, WHICH MANY OF THE, THOSE TOWN HOMES WOULD ACTUALLY FRONT ONTO THE GREEN SPACE.
AND THEY WOULD BE, UH, WHAT IS PERCEIVED AS REAR ENTRY.
THERE WOULD BE 264 TOTAL PARKING SPACES PROVIDED ON TRACK ONE, UM, 216 OF THOSE WITHIN THE GARAGES.
AND THEN THERE WOULD BE 48 VISITOR, UM, SPACES PROVIDED, UH, VIA SURFACE PARKING THROUGHOUT LOOKING AT TRACK TWO, UM, 184 UNITS WITHIN THE, THE FOUR STORY STRUCTURE, THE TWO COTTAGE UNITS AS WELL.
UM, ALL OF THOSE WOULD BE 55 PLUS.
AS AS MENTIONED THERE WOULD BE SURFACE PARKING, UM, PROVIDED ONSITE FOR BOTH THE RESIDENTS AS WELL AS VISITORS AND STAFF.
AND THERE WOULD BE, UM, SHARED AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE SENIOR HOUSING.
UM, THERE IS, UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD GREEN OR DOG PARK THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE SHARED BETWEEN TRACK ONE AND TRACK TWO, WHICH I'LL EXPLAIN IN GREATER DETAIL IN A COUPLE SLIDES.
UM, I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT, UM, THE, THE, I WOULD SAY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DEVIATION IN TERMS OF OUR UDC STANDARDS BESIDES THE LAND USE.
UM, SO SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT A DEVELOPMENT REGULATION PERSPECTIVE IS THE VARIATION OF THE PARKING RATIO.
UM, SO WE IN THE UDC HAVE A, A STAGGERED, UM, OR STEP, UM, FOR PARKING RATIOS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS PER UNIT.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A FLAT, UM, RATIO OF ONE PARKING SPACE PER UNIT AS OPPOSED TO BASING IT OFF OF THE BEDROOMS. PLUS.
UM, I'LL ALSO MENTION THEY ARE IN ADDITION PROVIDING 47 SPACES FOR VISITORS, UH, AND, AND STAFF AS WELL.
UM, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS PER THE UDC THAT ARE TRADITIONALLY REQUIRED WITH, UM, ANY DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL SUCH AS EV CHARGING BICYCLE PARKING AS WELL.
UM, SINCE THIS IS STILL IN THE CONCEPTUAL STAGE, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT, UM, PLAN PROCESS TO CARVE OUT ALL THOSE FINE DETAILS LATER ON.
SO LOOKING AT THE OPEN SPACE, UM, FOR THE PROJECT, UH, THE TOTAL PROJECT PROVIDES JUST UNDER 10% OF OPEN SPACE THROUGHOUT.
UM, YOU SEE, UM, CONCEPTUALLY ON THIS EXHIBIT, UM, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO COME TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
UM, THIS DOES INCLUDE SIDEWALKS ALONG ADDISON ROAD, EXCEL AND THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY.
THAT GENERALLY INCLUDES A SHARED USE PATH WITH A LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND STREET TREES.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THERE ARE VARIOUS AMENITIES FOR BOTH TRACKS.
UM, IN THE NEAR THE CENTER, UM, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CONTINUOUS GREEN SPACE, UH, AT THE CENTER OF THE UM, CONCEPT PLAN HERE DOES, UH, PROVIDE A DOG PARK AND COMMUNITY OPEN SPACE.
AND THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE SHARED BETWEEN THE TWO TRACKS.
UM, SO THE, THE AGE RESTRICTED MULTIFAMILY AS WELL AS THE TOWN TOWNHOME UNITS.
THAT IS, UM, IN THEORY THE ONLY INTENDED SHARED AMENITY.
UM, WHILE BY MENTIONED IN THE WORK SESSION, I DON'T, UH, I BELIEVE THE AGE RESTRICTOR WILL LIKELY
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IN SOME WAYS, UM, I'LL DEFER TO THE APPLICANT, BUT I ASSUME THEY WILL LIKELY SOME HOW LIMIT THEIR ACCESS, PUBLIC ACCESS TO THEIR AMENITIES.BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE TOWNHOME WILL PROPOSE TO LIMIT ACCESS TO ANY OF THEIR INTERIOR SIDEWALKS AND SO FORTH.
FOR THE TOWNHOMES, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO ACTIVATE THE COMMON AREAS.
YOU SEE, ONCE AGAIN IN THOSE MUSE BETWEEN THE TOWNHOMES AS THEY FACE ONTO EACH OTHER, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE, UM, SOME LEVEL OF ACTIVATION WITH SEATING, UM, KIND OF YARD GAMES, LAWN GAMES, UM, AND PUBLIC ART.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE AGE RESTRICTED MULTIFAMILY, THEY ARE PROPOSING AMENITIES FOR RESIDENTS SUCH AS A POOL, FITNESS CENTER, CLUBHOUSE, SO FORTH REGARDING, UM, DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS.
UM, SO THERE IS WATER AND SEWER SERVICE AVAILABLE TO SERVICE THIS SITE.
UM, A TIA WAS CONDUCTED FOR THIS PROJECT AND DID NOT RE RECOMMEND ANY OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, ADDITIONALLY THERE ARE NO ANTICIPATED ISSUES WITH TOWN SERVICES OR PROVISIONS TO SCHOOL DISTRICT.
UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF REMOVAL OF TREES BEFORE YOU, IS THE TREE MITIGATION PLAN.
UM, I BELIEVE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO AT THIS TIME LIKELY REMOVE ALL EXISTING TREES.
UM, THERE ARE MANY TREES IN KIND OF IN THESE CLUSTERS THAT UM, WE DON'T BELIEVE WERE EVER INTENTIONALLY PLANTED BUT HAVE SPROUT UP OVER TIME.
AND THAT INCLUDES, UH, 396 CALIBER INCHES THAT WILL, UM, LIKELY BE REMOVED TO ACCOMMODATE THIS DEVELOPMENT IF APPROVED.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS, ALL OF THAT WILL BE HONED IN AND WILL BE DETERMINED EXACTLY HOW MUCH WILL BE PAID INTO IN FEE IN LIEU OF VERSUS MITIGATED ON SITE MOVING FORWARD, UM, TO OTHER IMPACTS, UM, MOST NOTABLY, UH, THE PARK DEDICATION, EXCUSE ME, THE PARKLAND DEDICATION AND DEVELOPMENT FEE.
SO PER UM, OUR APPROVED PARK IMPACT FEES, THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD, UM, TYPICALLY BE REQUIRED TO EITHER DEDICATE PARKLAND FOR PUBLIC USE, UM, OR PROVIDE FEE IN LIEU OF DEDICATION AND PAY PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE ON A PER UNIT BASIS.
UM, FOR BOTH THE TOWN HOMES AS WELL AS THE, THE AGE RESTRICTED MULTIFAMILY.
UM, THE APPLICANT PER THE PD STANDARDS IS SEEKING A 68 UP TO A 68% CREDIT TO THE REQUIRED FEE IN LIEU OF FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION, UM, FOR BOTH TRACKS, TRACK ONE AND TRACK TWO AS WELL AS A CREDIT FOR ANY, UM, IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL PROVIDE, UM, IN TERMS OF THOSE PRIVATE SPACES.
SO IN BETWEEN THE TOWN HOMES, THE, THE DOG PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMUNITY AREA AND SO FORTH.
SO OBVIOUSLY, UH, WE DON'T HAVE EXACT FIGURES 'CAUSE THIS IS STILL IN A CONCEPT PHASE, BUT LOOKING AT, UH, WHAT A 68%, UM, CREDIT WOULD DO TO THE FEE, UM, BASED UPON THE MAXIMUM OR BASED UPON THE TERM CURRENT UNIT COUNT PROPOSED.
THE TOTAL ASSESSED BEFORE ANY TYPE OF CREDIT WOULD BE, UM, APPROXIMATELY $2.3 MILLION.
THAT INCLUDES ABOUT, UH, JUST SHY OF 1.6 MILLION AS WELL AS 750,000 FOR THE DEVELOPMENT FEE.
SO IF THAT 68% WAS APPLIED, THE MINIMUM FEE TO BE PAID WOULD BE 500, ABOUT APPROXIMATELY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OR EXCUSE ME, THAT SHOULD BE THE MAXIMUM FEE PAID.
AND THEN, UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH ALL DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS WE ARE COMPARING WITH OUR LONG RANGE PLANNING POLICIES.
SO, UM, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE OUR CONFERENCE AND PLANNING MANAGER COME AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMP PLAN.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, JADE BROAD NEXT, COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING MANAGER.
AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS IS A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.
SO THIS IS PERTAINING TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT ONLY, UM, FOR THE ADDISON GREEN ABOUT THE, UM, REQUEST TO AMEND THE PLACE TYPES MAP FROM HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CENTER TO URBAN VILLAGE.
SO IN EVALUATING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THERE'S SEVERAL CRITERIA THAT WE LOOK FOR, NOT JUST WITH UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS, BUT ALSO WITH THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.
UM, ALL OF THAT'S BEEN CONSIDERED, BUT IT'S SUMMARIZED AS BRIEFLY AS POSSIBLE ON THIS SLIDE.
SO, UM, THE TYPICAL THINGS THAT ARE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY TO LOOK FOR ARE GONNA BE THE MAPS.
UM, SO THE PLACE TYPES MAP DESIGNATES THIS AGAIN AS HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CENTER.
AND IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, EACH PLACE TYPE HAS, UM, RESPECTIVE ATTRIBUTES AND A NARRATIVE.
SO, UM, THE HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CENTER IN SHORT PROMOTES THE MOST INTENSE DEVELOPMENT, UM, POSSIBLE.
SO WE'RE INVITING THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY.
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AND, UM, FOR THE SPECTRUM OF CHANGE MAP THAT IS NOT INDICATED ON THIS SLIDE VISUALLY, BUT IT IS THE RED, YELLOW, AND GREEN MAP THAT INDICATES THE LEVEL OF ANTICIPATED DEVELOPMENT PER PARCEL.AND THIS, UM, SITE IS DESIGNATED AS DEVELOP REDEVELOP, WHICH, UM, ACCOUNTS FOR SUBSTANTIAL REDEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS, THE MOST SUBSTANTIAL REDEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS.
UM, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES HAVE TEXT TO SPEAK TO WHAT THAT'S ANTICIPATED TO LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF INTENSITY.
AND SO, UM, EMPHASIZE THAT THAT DOES INCLUDE, UM, ADDING A SUBSTANTIAL POPULATION IN DIVERSE HOUSING TYPES.
SO ESSENTIALLY VACANT LAND THAT'S DOING, UM, THAT'S PROPOSING ANYTHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE IS GONNA COMPLY WITH THAT.
UM, KIND OF DEVELOP REDEVELOP NARRATIVE TEXT.
SO AS MENTIONED BEFORE, ALSO IN PURSUING AN OFFICIAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, UM, THE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR CONSIDERING THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND SO AS INDICATED ON THE TOP OF THE TABLE, ARTICLE TWO SPECIFIES THE REVIEW CRITERIA THAT YOU SHOULD CONSIDER AND USE TO GUIDE YOUR DISCUSSION.
AND SO, UM, AS THE PERSON WHO MANAGED THE DEVELOPMENT CODE GETTING UPDATED, UM, PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE INTENT OF THOSE SECTIONS AND SO HAVE PROVIDED MY ANALYSIS OF IF THE CRITERIA ARE BEING MET.
OBVIOUSLY THAT IS UP TO THE COMMISSION TO DECIDE.
UM, BUT THE SIX CRITERIA OUTLINED THERE, THE FIRST ONE IS SPEAKING TO IF THERE'S AN ERROR IN THE ORIGINAL COMP PLAN ADOPTION.
UM, THIS IS TALKING ABOUT, UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, A SIGNIFICANT ERROR MOST LIKELY TO THE PLACE TYPES MAP ITSELF.
SO IF WE WERE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BOUNDARY OF A PLACE TYPE WAS INCORRECT CLEARLY AND SUBSTANTIALLY INCORRECT AND IT NEEDED TO BE RECTIFIED, THEN PER THE CRITERIA OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE PROCESS FOR RECTIFYING THAT ERROR WOULD BE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, SO THIS IS NOT, UM, CONSIDERED TO BE MEETING THAT INTENT.
AND THE DESIGNATION OF HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CENTER WAS INTENTIONALLY DESIGNATED FOR THE MAJORITY OF PROPERTY ALONG THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY.
UM, THE SECOND CRITERIA AND THE THIRD ARE TALKING ABOUT SUBSTANTIAL EVENTS, TRENDS, OR FACTS THAT MAY HAVE CHANGED.
UM, THE SECOND ONE'S TALKING ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL, WHEREAS THE THIRD ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA SURROUNDING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
SO THERE HAVE BEEN NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, UM, THAT WOULD IMPACT ANY OF THE MATERIAL THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IN TERMS OF, UM, FACTUAL ANALYSIS, THERE ARE SEVERAL STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN CITED, UM, BUT THEY HAVE, UM, CONSIDERED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS THOSE HAVE COME FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO I'LL SPEAK ON THOSE A LITTLE BIT WITH CRITERIA FIVE.
UM, AND THEN THE THIRD CRITERIA, WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE A NEW DEVELOPMENT MAP THAT MAPS ALL SIGNIFICANT NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COME FORWARD IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS.
AND YOU CAN VISUALLY SEE ON THAT MAP THAT THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT PROPOSALS WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE AREA THAT HAVE CHANGED THE CHARACTER THAT WOULD OTHERWISE CHANGE THE INTENT FOR REDEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY.
UM, THERE WAS A PROPOSED REPL, WHICH IS VERY MINOR EXISTING DEVELOPMENT ONE LOT INTO TWO LOTS, AND THEN A PROPOSED WAREHOUSE ON A VACANT PROPERTY.
SO NOT RELATED TO THE INTENSITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WAS CONSIDERED TO NOT MEET THE CRITERIA FOR THREE.
AND THEN THE FOURTH CRITERIA DOES SIGNIFICANTLY CONFLICT.
SO IT'S ASKING IF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS CONFLICTING WITH ANY PORTION OF THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO ONE OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITY AREAS THAT WE LOOK AT IN THE PLAN FOR CONSIDERING IF SOMETHING IS IN COMPLIANCE AGAIN, IS THE PLACE TYPE MAP.
UM, NARRATIVE TEXT, THE MAP ITSELF AND THE ATTRIBUTES IN THERE.
AND SO WITH THIS PROPOSAL, WITH IT BEING HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CENTER, UM, THE PERMITTED BUILDING TYPOLOGIES DO NOT PERMIT SOME SMALL PLEX OR TOWN HOMES.
UM, THE BUILDING HEIGHT STANDARDS ALSO PRESENT A CONFLICT.
SO THIS PLACE TYPE REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF FIVE STORIES AND A MAXIMUM OF 30.
UM, AND WE HAVE THREE STORY TOWN HOMES.
SO THAT'S NOT MEETING THE INTENT.
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TO DO WITH PARKING AND RIGHT OF WAY WIDTHS.SO THE HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CENTER DOESN'T, UM, ALLOW FOR HIDDEN SURFACE OR INDIVIDUAL DRIVEWAYS AND IT DOES ENCOURAGE STRUCTURED AND STREET PARKING WHEREVER POSSIBLE.
IT ALSO LISTS COMMERCIAL COLLECTORS AND MINOR ARTERIALS AS THE PREFERRED RIGHT OF WAYS WITHIN THIS AREA.
AND ON THE PLAN WE HAVE SEVERAL, UM, STREETS THAT ARE MEETING THE MINIMUM FILING WIDTH OF 24 FEET.
AND THE BUILDING TYPOLOGIES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED IN THE AMENDMENT ARE COMPLIANT WITH THE URBAN VILLAGE STANDARDS, NOT THE HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CENTER STANDARDS.
CRITERIA FIVE IS, UM, ASKING US TO EVALUATE IF THE AMENDMENT ESSENTIALLY OFFERS A SUBSTANTIAL BENEFIT TO THE TOWN, NOT JUST THE INDIVIDUAL, UM, APPLICANT AND THIS ONE DOES.
SO, UM, I'VE PREPARED SOME MATERIAL THAT REFERENCES THE CURRENT ZONING, UM, ACCOUNTING FOR SENIOR HOUSING AND THE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OWNERSHIP, HOUSING OPPORTUNITY.
THE, UM, VISIONARY PRINCIPLES PERTAINING TO THE 2017 HOUSING POLICY, WHICH HAVE BEEN INTEGRATED INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND UM, ARE OUTLINED IN THE HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOODS PLANNING COMPONENT TO SPECIFICALLY, UM, ENCOURAGE OWNERSHIP HOUSING WHEREVER POSSIBLE.
UM, ALSO TAKING INTO ACCOUNT FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN REPORTED FOR DECADES.
UM, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL REZONINGS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD ON THIS PROPERTY.
UM, THAT ACCOUNT FOR CONDO TOWERS, WHICH ARE PERMITTED IN THE HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CENTER.
AND THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL STUDIES THAT CITE THE, UM, FEASIBILITY ISSUES WITH THAT, UM, PROPOSED TYPE AS WELL AS, UM, A MARKET STUDY WHICH SERVES AS APPENDIX E TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IDENTIFIES THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY AS THE OFFICE CORRIDOR.
AND IT SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS THAT, UM, THIS CORRIDOR SHOULD BE DIVERSIFIED WITH INFILL ACTIVITY TO INTEGRATE RESIDENTIAL USES BETWEEN OFFICE TOWERS.
SO THAT'S CONSIDERED TO BE, UM, A SUBSTANTIAL BENEFIT HAVING A RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT BEING PROPOSED.
UM, ADDITIONALLY THERE'S A, AN ADDITIONAL STUDY THAT'S COME FORWARD THAT USED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS A BASELINE FOR ITS ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE BY CATALYST PLANNING GROUP, UM, JUST PRIOR TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ADOPTION THAT WAS KIND OF CHAMPIONED BY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PART DEPARTMENT.
AND IT SPECIFICALLY SPOKE TO THE GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN TERMS OF INCREASING OWNERSHIP HOUSING PRODUCT, UM, AND DID EVALUATE MORE SPECIFICALLY THE FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY OF THAT IN THAT STUDY.
UM, IT SUPPORTS OWNERSHIP HOUSING AND INFILL REDEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS.
IT ALSO NOTES THAT THE LESS EXPENSIVE HOUSING TYPES, UM, THAT ARE BUILT TO A MID-RISE DENSITY STANDARD LIKE TOWNHOME, SMALL PLEXES FOUND IN THE URBAN VILLAGE CAN HELP TO ACHIEVE THAT OWNERSHIP HOUSING PRODUCT.
SO TOGETHER THOSE THINGS ARE CONSIDERED TO MEET THE CRITERIA OF, UM, CRITERIA FIVE.
AND THEN CRITERIA SIX IS SPEAKING TO, UM, KIND OF THE EQUIVALENT OF A SPOT ZONING SITUATION.
SO IF THE AMENDMENT WERE TO GO FORWARD, WE'RE MEANT TO CONSIDER IF IT WOULD CREATE AN INCOMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA OR AN UNDUE BURDEN ON PUBLIC SERVICES AND FACILITIES.
THIS ONE IS KIND OF OPEN TO INTERPRETATION JUST BECAUSE THE DESIGNATION OF HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CENTER DOES ACCOUNT FOR HIGHER DENSITY ALONG THE TOLLWAY, BUT THE SURROUNDING THOROUGHFARE NETWORK, THE BUILDING HEIGHT PARKING STANDARDS AND BUILDING TYPOLOGIES THAT ARE BEING SOUGHT WITH THE AMENDMENT R COMPATIBLE WITH URBAN VILLAGE, WHICH IS CLOSE BY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO LESLIE.
ALRIGHT, UM, SO MOVING BACK ONTO THE HOUSING POLICY.
SO I BELIEVE WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE 2017 HOUSING POLICY AND THE FIVE CRITERIA, UM, ENCOURAGING FEE, SIMPLE OWNERSHIP AS WELL AS, UM, INDEPENDENT OR ASSISTED LIVING, UM, AS WELL AS A MORE URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, UM, UM, EXCUSE ME, EVALUATING THIS PROJECT BASED UPON THE HOUSING POLICY, UM,
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IT DOES INCREASE THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF FEE, SIMPLE OWNERSHIP BY 0.4%, UM, WHEN YOU FACTOR IN BOTH TRACK ONE AND TRACK TWO INTO OUR CURRENT, UM, HOUSING SPLIT IN TERMS OF RENTAL OR OWNERSHIP.UM, I WILL ALSO ADD THAT THIS PROJECT DOES NOT, UM, AND STAFF'S OPINION MEET THE INTENT OF THE HOUSING POLICY WHEN IT ASKS FOR INDEPENDENT OR ASSISTED LIVING SENIOR LIVING FACILITIES, EXCUSE ME, AS THIS PROPOSAL IS AGE RESTRICTED HOUSING 55 PLUS, BUT DOES NOT OFFER MANY OF THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT ARE COMMONLY FOUND IN INDEPENDENT OR ASSISTED LIVING.
UM, EXAMPLES OF THOSE SERVICES MAY INCLUDE HOUSEKEEPING, UH, MEALS, TRANSPORTATION OR OTHER, UH, MEDICAL OR NON-MEDICAL SERVICES, DEPENDING UPON, UM, WHETHER IT'S INDEPENDENT OR ASSISTED LIVING.
UM, I WILL ALSO NOTE, UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THAT THE PROPOSAL DOES IMPROVE THE WALKABILITY OF THE AREA 'CAUSE THERE'S CURRENTLY NO SIDEWALKS, UM, ANYWHERE ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY WILL, UM, PROVIDE SIDEWALKS ON ALL PER, UH, PERIMETERS OF THE SITE.
UM, STAFF, UM, ANALYZE THE CURRENT HOUSING SPLIT.
SO JUST ONCE AGAIN SHOWING YOU KIND OF THAT, UM, CHANGE FROM ANY EXISTING UNITS.
THE EXISTING AND ENTITLED UNITS IS EVERYTHING THAT'S ZONED TODAY, BUT, BUT NOT CONSTRUCTED OR NOT, DOESN'T HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
AND THEN THE, THE LAST ITEM, THE PROPOSED THAT IS, UM, THAT EXISTING PLUS THE ENTITLED WITH THE, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED THIS EVENING.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE VARIATION OF THOSE, THE SPLIT OVER TIME IN THE PLUS POINT PER 0.4% INCREASE.
AND THEN, UM, I ALSO JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A DENSITY COMPARISON, UM, AS WELL, UM, LOOKING AT BOTH THE, UH, TRACK ONE AS WELL AS TRACK TWO, UM, HAVING IN, IN COMPARED TO SOME OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS AROUND, UM, ADDISON.
SO YOU SEE, UM, WHEN YOU COMBINE BOTH PROJECTS, THERE ARE ABOUT 25 UNITS PER ACRE, UM, WHICH IS FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF OUR MORE RECENT MIXED USE PROJECTS INCLUDING AMLI TREE HOUSE, UM, STAFF PROVIDED NOTICE TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE.
UM, WE ALSO INCLUDED THAT TO DISD SINCE THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, UM, THAT INCLUDED NINE RECIPIENTS IN TOTAL.
UM, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK ON THIS REQUEST, UM, TO OUR OFFICE.
AND I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT THE APPLICANT DID HOST A COMMUNITY MEETING AT THE ADDISON FINANCE BUILDING ON JULY 1ST.
UM, I BELIEVE EXCLUDING STAFF AND THE APPLICANT TEAM, THERE WERE NINE, UM, INDIVIDUALS IN ATTENDANCE AT THAT MEETING, UM, UH, TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT AND THE PROPOSAL.
SO, UM, STAFF DID DO AN ANALYSIS AND ON THE PROPOSAL WITH EVERYTHING WE HAVE JUST PRESENTED AND THE PROJECT DOES COMPLY WITH THE M TWO DISTRICT STANDARDS, WITH THE, UH, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PARKING RATIO THAT I MENTIONED, AS WELL AS THE, THE CREDIT THEY'RE SEEKING FOR THE PARKLAND DEDICATION.
UM, HOWEVER, UM, I WILL, AND SORRY, AND IT DOES INCREASE THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF FEE, SIMPLE OWNERSHIP BY THE 0.04%.
HOWEVER, UM, AS JADE EXPLAINED, IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, ADVANCE ADDISON 2050.
UM, SO, UH, IF PNZ CHOOSES TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, STACK RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
AND THE FIRST THAT THE APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING FOR CASE 1953 Z IS CONTINGENT UPON APPROVAL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, UM, FOR ADVANCED ADDISON TO RE-DESIGNATE THIS PROPERTY FROM HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CENTER TO UM, URBAN VILLAGE.
ADDITIONALLY, UM, WE ARE ASKING THAT PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, THE, UH, TOWN AND THE APPLICANT ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, TO FURTHER DEFINE REQUIREMENTS REGARDING PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR THE TIME AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES, AS WELL AS, UH, MANAGEMENT OF THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES AS WELL.
UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO, TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, AND THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION.
CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE, THE, WHAT YOUR PLAN WOULD BE WITH REGARDS TO THAT LAST ITEM ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF FE? I MEAN, WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AT ADDISON GROVE AND WE'VE, THE APARTMENTS HAVE MM-HMM
SO WHAT WOULD YOUR PLANS BE FOR THIS PROJECT? YEAH, SO WE WOULD WANT TO ENSURE THAT, UM, THE AGE RESTRICTED MULTIFAMILY DOES NOT PROGRESS FORWARD WITHOUT CONSTRUCTION OF THE, UM, TOWN HOMES.
UH, SO WE WOULD, UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE WOULD BE MORE NEGOTIATION TO BE HAD, BUT WE WOULD LIKELY WANT A
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CERTAIN NUMBER OF THE TOWN HOME UNITS.WHAT PERMITTED, UM, UNDER CONSTRUCTION, ONCE AGAIN, THAT COULD BE NEGOTIATED PRIOR TO PERMITS ISSUED FOR THE, UM, AGE RESTRICTED MULTIFAMILY, UH, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY WANT TO ENSURE TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY A SCENARIO WHERE WE DON'T GET THE AGE RESTRICTED MULTIFAMILY AND WE DO NOT GET THE TOWN HOME COMPONENT.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY, UM, THE TOWN HOME COMPONENT ALLOWS THIS PROJECT TO MEET SOME OF, UH, THE TOWN SCHOOLS, BUT YOU DON'T GO IN WITH A, IT'S JUST ALL NEGOTIATED PERIOD IS.
SO THAT, THAT IS, UH, ULTIMATELY NEGOTIATED AND CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE A PART OF THAT NEGOTIATION, WOULD ULTIMATELY APPROVE THAT.
JUST, JUST A COUPLE QUICK ONES BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THE, UM, WE MENTIONED HOW THEY, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE LIKELY WOULDN'T HAVE LIKE, ACTIVE, UM, POLICING, SO TO SPEAK, FOR LESS OF A BETTER WORD, OF THE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE.
UH, ACTIVE WHAT, SORRY? POLICING IS A STRONG WORD.
THE, THE OPEN SPACE THAT'S TECHNICALLY PRIVATE IN, IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO IT'S A PRIVATE, SO YEAH, IT'D BE HOA PROPERTY.
AND SO DO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO REALLY ENFORCE AS AN HOA? THEY'D BE LIKE, OKAY, WE REALLY DON'T WANT PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE HERE WALKING THROUGH OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEY, THEY'D HAVE, UM, I, I'LL, I WOULD SAY, YES, I'LL DEFER TO THE APPLICANT.
I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK, BUT I BELIEVE, UM, ANY HOA COULD SET ANY SORT OF, UM, THOSE EVOLVE OBVIOUSLY, OF COURSE AS NEW, NEW PEOPLE, UM, MOVE IN AND SO FORTH.
AND I BELIEVE THEY COULD SET ANY KIND OF RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY SO CHOOSE, UM, IF APPROVED BY THEIR, THE BOARD, I BELIEVE THEIR HOA BOARD.
UM, WERE THERE ANY COMMENTS, UH, FROM, YOU KNOW, KINDA ANYONE YOU WORKED WITH ABOUT, LIKE, WE TALKED ABOUT EMS SERVICES AND STUFF, KIND OF WE CAN HANDLE IT ALL.
WERE THERE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OLDER POPULATION SKEWING TOWARDS NEEDING MORE KIND OF, FRANKLY LIKE AMBULANCES EMS SERVICES THAT, THAT YOU HEARD OR YOU SAW ANYTHING CALLED OUT? NOT IN PARTICULAR, NO.
NO, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THAT.
YEAH, I, I MIGHT SEE WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
'CAUSE THERE WAS TALKS IN THE, UM, BROCHURE ABOUT, HEY, YOU KNOW, OUR PEOPLE ARE, ARE GENERALLY WEALTHIER.
THEY GENERALLY USE, HAVE A LOWER IMPACT ON PUBLIC SERVICES, AND THEN BE KIND OF CURIOUS WITH THEIR AVERAGE AGE, HOW THAT, HOW THAT GOES WITH, UM, EMERGENCY SERVICES.
UH, LESLIE, UH, I'D LIKE YOU TO CLARIFY THE PARKLAND, UM, OFFSET FEES.
IN OTHER WORDS, MY QUESTION IS REALLY HOW DOES THAT GET DERIVED IN TERMS OF YOUR ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT ACCOMPLISH? I THINK YOU USE THE NUMBER 68%.
UH, AND THEN YOU SAID THE SITE IS NOT A VIABLE CANDIDATE FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION.
HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS.
YEAH, SO THE PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE, WHICH ACTUALLY LIVES IN ARTICLE SIX, I BELIEVE, OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
IT'S IN THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, UM, THAT IDENTIFIES THAT THE TOWN IS SEEKING DEDICATION OF PARKLAND, UM, TO, IN ORDER THE, THE OVERALL GOAL OF THAT, UM, THE STUDY AND ULTIMATELY THE, THE PARK IMPACT FEES WAS TO ENSURE THAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WE WERE PROVIDING TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS MEETS A A CERTAIN STANDARD, UM, IN TERMS OF LIKE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF PARK PER RESIDENT WE'RE PROVIDING.
UM, WHAT CAME OF THAT STUDY IS THAT, UM, WE ARE AS A, AS A COMMUNITY DEFICIENT, WHEN YOU COMPARE ONCE AGAIN, THAT LAND TO THE PER RESIDENT, PER OUR TARGET OF SQUARE FOOTAGE PER RESIDENT.
UM, SO WHAT THE, THE, THIS ORDINANCE IS ASKING IS THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT DEDICATE PARKLAND, BUT WE DO HAVE MINIMUM, UM, CRITERIA FOR DEDICATED PARKLAND.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF LIKE HYPOTHETICALLY, UM, WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S, THAT'S 10 ACRES AND FIVE OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE A, A SWAMP, IT'S A DE IT'S A DETENTION AREA, IT'S NOT USABLE.
AND THE DEVELOPER SAYS, SURE, TOWN, YOU TAKE THAT FIVE ACRES AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S CRITERIA THAT WARD AGAINST THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S MINIMUM SIZE AS WELL.
UM, IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE COST AND CONCERNS WITH, WE DON'T WANT NECESSARILY, I SHOULDN'T SAY WE DON'T WANT, IT'S NOT ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE TOWN TO ACCEPT FOR PUBLIC PARK LAND AND MAINTENANCE SMALL PARK POCKET PARKS THAT WE THEN HAVE TO TAKE ON A COST AND A BURDEN TO MAINTAIN THEM WHEN THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY PROVIDING, UM, GREATER BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO ALL IN ALL THOSE CRITERIA WHEN WE'RE EVALUATING, THAT'S WHERE THAT IS COMING FROM.
SAYING THAT THIS SITE WAS NOT A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION BECAUSE OF ITS TOTAL SIZE AND THE AMOUNT OF DEDICATION THAT WAS REQUIRED.
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PROCESS? WELL, YES AND NO.WE, WE APPLY THE CODE AND ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE THE ONE TO APPROVE THAT.
SO IT'S ALL, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF LIKE ALL OF THESE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS IN THE UDC.
WE TELL THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE 10 PARKING SPACES.
THEY COULD ULTIMATELY COME TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER CITY COUNCIL AND SAY, WE ONLY WANNA PUT IN EIGHT AND THAT COULD GET APPROVED.
UM, BUT WE'RE JUST GIVING THEM WHAT THE CRITERIA ARE AND THEY'RE PROVIDING THEIR PROPOSAL.
SO ULTIMATELY IT'S NOT STAFF'S DECISION.
STAFF'S PROVIDING A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE THE PARK LAND DEDICATION IS FEASIBLE IN THIS SENSE IS THAT THE PARK, EXCUSE ME, THE FEE IN LIEU OF IS MORE APPROPRIATE.
UM, BUT WITH THAT, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING UP TO A 68% CREDIT FOR THAT FEE.
SO MOVING ON TO THE NEXT STEP, UM, IF THIS PROPOSAL GETS APPROVED, THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO COMPLETE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS, AND THAT'S WHERE THAT UP TO 68% WOULD GET REFINED.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY FOR SOME REASON DUE TO A UTILITY, THEY DON'T, THERE'S A CERTAIN AREA THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DESIGN, THEY DON'T WANT, THAT DOESN'T MEET OUR CRITERIA FOR A, A PRIVATE PARK SPACE.
AND THAT CREDIT COULD DROP TO 60 HYPOTHETICALLY, BUT ULTIMATELY THAT WOULD HAVE TO GET REFINED DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
AND CITY COUNCIL WOULD ULTIMATELY HAVE TO APPROVE WHAT THAT CREDIT IS.
THIS IS JUST SETTING THE STAGE TO ALLOW TO ALLOW A, A, A REGULATION, IF YOU WILL, TO GIVE THE APPLICANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURSUE A MORE SIGNIFICANT CREDIT THAN OTHERWISE ALLOWED IN THE UDC.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION FOR LESLIE OR JADE? GREAT.
UH, WITH THAT, IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OR MAKE A PRESENTATION, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
HOW YOU ALL DOING? UM, MY NAME'S BILL CAULEY.
I'M AN OFFICE BILLING DEVELOPER.
I'VE OWNED THIS SITE SINCE 2018, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO KIND OF TELL YOU WHAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH OWNING THIS SITE.
'CAUSE I BOUGHT IT TO BUILD OFFICE BUILDINGS ON IT.
I BUILT TWO AND A HALF MILLION SQUARE FEET BETWEEN OF OFFICE BUILDINGS IN ADDISON AND FARMER'S BRANCH.
I'VE KIND OF, I OFFICE IN ADDISON.
I'VE SPENT MOST OF MY CAREER DOING BUSINESS IN ADDISON.
I CARE ABOUT DOING THINGS RIGHT, AND, UM, I'VE REALLY ENJOYED WORKING HERE.
UM, I'VE GOT A SECOND PHASE OF THE BUILDING THAT OXY'S IN.
I OWN, I, I OWN THOSE BUILDINGS OR BUILT THEM, AND I PLAN ON BUILDING ANOTHER BUILDING THERE AS SOON AS WE'RE WORKING ON SOME PRE-LEASING RIGHT NOW.
UM, DO I CLICK THIS? HOW DO I GET THIS TO THE NEXT ONE? I PUT A TIMELINE HERE JUST SO YOU CAN KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SITE'S BEEN THROUGH.
I BOUGHT IT IN, UH, MAY OF 18 TO BUILD OFFICE BUILDINGS.
I ACTUALLY BUILT THE WHITE OFFICE BUILDING THAT SITS ADJACENT TO THIS SITE.
IT'S THE FIRST BUILDING I BUILT IN MY CAREER.
I'VE OWNED THAT BUILDING TWICE.
THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN FORECLOSED ON TWICE AND IS JUST, HAS BEEN RESOLD.
IT HAS STRUGGLED OVER THE YEARS TO LEASE.
AND I WANNA SHOW YOU WHY IT'S STRUGGLED, BUT WHEN I BOUGHT THE, THE LAND, I PLANNED TO BUILD A SECOND PHASE TO THAT BUILDING AND MAYBE TWO OR THREE OTHER BUILDINGS THERE.
PM REALTY SHOWED UP IN, UH, UH, NOVEMBER OF 18, WANTING TO BUILD A MASSIVE SENIOR HOUSING PROJECT.
IT WORKED FOR ME BECAUSE THEY WERE TAKING THE WHOLE SITE.
THE CITY WANTED IT, AND THEY APPEARED.
I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT SENIOR HOUSING, IT'S JUST THAT WHEN WE TALKED TO THE CITY, THE CITY SAID THEY WANTED IT.
SO WE SAID, GREAT, LET'S GO FOR IT.
UM, IT WAS, UH, REZONED TO SENIOR HOUSING ON OCTOBER 20 OVER COVID.
NINE, I OFFERED TO ROLL THE LAND INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.
I WORKED, I DID EVERYTHING I COULD TO MAKE THAT PROJECT WORK.
COVID KINDA CHANGED THE WORLD.
IT WAS, THEY WERE, THEY STRUGGLED BECAUSE OF COVID.
AFTER 1221, I SPENT TWO YEARS CONTACTING SENIOR LIVING DEVELOPERS.
I'VE CALLED EVERY DEVELOPER I KNOW OF.
UH, I'VE GOT, UH, EMPLOYEES THAT WORK FOR ME.
WE'VE MADE THE SITE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
AND ALL THROUGH COVID FOR TWO YEARS, THEY, THEY FELT LIKE ADDISON WAS OVERBUILT IN SENIOR HOUSING.
THEY JUST FELT LIKE THERE WAS MORE PRODUCT THAN DEMAND.
UM, I, I'VE OFFERED TO ROLL THE LAND IN WITH SENIOR HOUSING DEVELOPERS.
I'VE TOLD 'EM I'LL BE THEIR PARTNER.
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ACTUALLY OFFERED TO CAPITALIZE IT.UM, I WENT BACK TO CITY STAFF AND REPORTED TO THE CITY STAFF AND I SAID, LISTEN, I'M STRIKING OUT.
I KNOW YOU WANT SENIOR HOUSING, BUT I CANNOT FIND A DEVELOPER THAT FEELS LIKE THIS IS A SITE THAT WORKS.
WHEN I TALKED TO CITY STAFF, THEY SAID, WE WANT FEE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP.
I SAID, WELL, MAYBE WITH TOWN HOMES WORK.
SO THEN I WENT OUT INTERVIEWING TOWN HOME DEVELOPERS.
THAT TOOK ME 18 MONTHS TO TWO YEARS.
UM, THE LAST TIME WE CAME BACK, I THOUGHT MAYBE I COULD PUT AN APARTMENT PROJECT THERE ON THE FRONT THAT DIDN'T WORK.
UM, BUT I WAS TOLD THAT IF I COULD GET FEE, SIMPLE OWNERSHIP, THERE'D BE SOMETHING THE CITY REALLY WANTED.
I WENT RE BACK THROUGH ALL THE SENIOR HOUSING PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO, AND WE RAN INTO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOW INTERESTED IN THE SITE.
AND, UH, I LOOKED FOR AGE RESTRICTED OR SENIOR HOUSING DEVELOPERS.
AGAIN, I'M AN OFFICE BILLING DEVELOPER.
I CAN TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WITH AN OFFICE BUILDING.
BUT WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IS ACTIVATE THE SITE AND BRING THE CITY WHAT THEY WANT ON THE SITE.
UM, THE NEW COMBINATION OF AGE RESTRICTED.
WE'RE GONNA BE, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE INTEGRITY IN EVERYTHING WE DO.
I'M NOT GONNA GO LET BUILD SOMETHING.
IF YOU WANT ME TO BUILD MORE TOWN HOMES BEFORE, IT'S FINE.
I'VE BEEN HERE TOO LONG AND I'M AT MY AGE.
I JUST WANT GOOD RELATIONSHIPS AND I'M TRYING TO DO, REALLY, I'M TRYING TO ACTIVATE THE SITE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK FOR OFFICE ANYMORE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THE, THIS AREA BEFORE COVID OFFICE WAS ABOUT LOCATION.
IT'S ABOUT, CAN YOU GO BACK, SORRY.
BUT FOR PEOPLE ONLINE AND STUFF, THEY CAN'T THANK YOU.
IT'S ABOUT THEY WANT THEIR EMPLOYEES TO STAY AT WORK.
THEY DON'T WANT 'EM TO GET IN THE CAR AND GO ANYWHERE.
SO THEY WANT MIXED USE OR THEY WANT AN ENVIRONMENT ON A SITE WHERE THEY CAN BRING PEOPLE TO AND THEY NEVER HAVE TO LEAVE.
THE ISSUE WITH THIS SITE IS COMING, THIS IS NORTH, LOOKING SOUTH, TO GET TO THIS SITE.
IF YOU'RE LIVING IN FRISCO OR WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE UP NORTH COMING TO THIS SITE, THEY HAVE TO GET OFF AT FRANKFURT, GO THROUGH BRIAR GROVE, GO THROUGH TRINITY MILLS.
THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THREE STOPLIGHTS ON RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING COMING NORTH.
KELLER SPRINGS IS NOT BAD, BUT THEY HAVE TO COME, GO UNDER THE BRIDGE AND RA AND WRAP AROUND.
I HAVE TRIED, I'VE BEEN, I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THE TOP TWO OFFICE DEVELOPERS IN THE, IN, IN DALLAS.
UH, I'M, I, I'M DOING WILLOW BEND WITH THE STARS RIGHT NOW, AND I PLAN TO DO A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THERE.
I ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT I'M DOING.
AND THIS SITE JUST DOES NOT WORK FOR OFFICE ANYMORE.
IT'S NOT WHAT OFFICE USERS WANT.
IT'S GOT GREAT VISIBILITY, BUT THE ACCESS REALLY HURTS IT.
AND ALL I WANTED TO DO IS JUST COME HERE AND TELL YOU.
SO YOU WANT, AND I, I KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND I KNOW YOU'RE ALL TRYING TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY.
I'M JUST TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THIS, THIS, THIS SITE HAS FOR MAYBE WHAT THE CITY WOULD PREFER IT BE.
AND THE MARKET'S ALWAYS GONNA TELL YOU WHAT SOMETHING SHOULD BE.
AND, UM, I REALLY WANT TO BE A GOOD OWNER AND A GOOD PARTNER WITH THE CITY.
AND I REALLY DO THINK WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS THE BEST USE FOR THIS SITE.
WHEN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE YOUR ADDRESS.
I'M WITH CONTOUR REAL ESTATE AND DEVELOPMENT AT 48 51 LBGA FREEWAY, SUITE 2 0 5 IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
UH, CONTOUR IS THE DEVELOPER OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR BOTH THE TOWN HOMES AND THE CONNECTION TO THE SENIOR LIVING PORTION OF ADDISON GREEN.
ADDISON GREEN IS AN 11.6 ACRE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY THAT BRINGS TOGETHER 108 V SIMPLE TOWN HOMES AND 186 RESTRICTED 55 PLUS LIVING UNITS, 6.7 ACRES AND 4.9 ACRES RESPECTIVELY.
WE DESIGNED THE COMMUNITY FROM DAY ONE TO MAKE IT APPEAR AS A, AS A MASTER PLAN SINGLE COMMUNITY WITH, WITH CROSS POLLINATION, NOT JUST TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS ON AN ATTRACTIVE LAND THAT CAULEY PARTNERS IS SELLING.
THE SITE HAS DUAL ACCESS FROM ADDISON ROAD ON THE WEST, AND, UM, UH, SOUTHBOUND ON TOLLWAY FRONTAGE ON THE EAST.
AND EVERY FOOT OF THAT PERIMETER WE'VE, WE'VE GOT IS WALKABLE WITH, WITH HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL.
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HIGHLIGHTED BY AN EIGHT FOOT HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL.THAT'S PART OF THE, THE ADDISON, UM, UH, TRAIL NETWORK ALONG ADDISON ROAD.
AND, UM, KIND OF USING, AS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, SOME OF THE PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX TOOLS TO REALLY MAKE IT AN ENHANCED, UH, PEDESTRIAN WAY.
AT THE HEART OF THE, THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY IS A CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD PARK.
IT HAS SHARED GATHERING SPACE FOR BOTH HOUSING TYPES.
THE, THE INDEPENDENT LIVING, SENIOR LIVING, AND THE TOWN HOMES.
UM, IT'S GOT A DOG PARK OPEN LAWN FOR MOVIE NIGHTS AND NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS, SHARED SEATING, UH, LOCATIONS FOR PUBLIC ART.
IT'LL BE A REAL CENTERPIECE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
UH, THERE'S FOUR ADDITIONAL POCKET PARKS WITH WOVEN WITHIN THE TOWN HOME BLOCKS EACH WITH THEIR OWN IDENTITY.
EXAMPLES OF AMENITIES WILL INCLUDE FOUNTAINS, GAMING LAWNS, FESTIVAL LIGHTING, GARDEN ROOMS, AND SEATING AREAS.
IN TOTAL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OVER OR CLOSE TO 10% OF OPEN SPACE THAT'S USABLE AT FULL BUILD OUT.
ADDISON GREEN REPRESENTS A TAXABLE VALUATION OF $110 MILLION, WHICH WE FEEL IS A REAL RETURN FOR ADDISON WRAPPED IN A COMMUNITY DESIGNED TO ACTUALLY BE LIVED IN.
WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN BOONE WITH SPARROW PARTNERS TO DISCUSS THE ACTIVE ADULT.
HI, I'M JOHN BOONE WITH SPARROW PARTNERS.
UH, WE WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, ADDRESS IN THERE FOR YOUR, PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR ME.
OH, UH, 1 9 0 2 DINO DRIVE, AUSTIN, TEXAS.
UM, SO WE'RE PROPOSING AN ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITY, WHICH IS, UM, ON THE BEGINNING OF THE CONTIN CONTINUUM OF CARE OF SENIOR HOUSING.
UH, OUR MEDIAN AGE IS, UH, EARLY SEVENTIES, SEVEN, ABOUT 72 YEARS OLD.
THE TYPICAL LENGTH OF STAY FOR AN ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITY MEMBER IS APPROXIMATELY FIVE YEARS.
UH, INDEPENDENT LIVING AVERAGE MEDIAN AGE IS 85.
TYPICAL LENGTH OF STAY IS 18 MONTHS ASSISTED LIVING.
UM, THE LENGTH OF STAY CONTINUES TO DROP TO TOWARDS MEMORY CARE.
SO WE'RE AT, UH, STAGE OF HOUSING WHERE THE SENIOR HOUSING, UM, SPECTRUM BEGINS AND THE SERVICES WE OFFER.
WHILE WE DON'T PROVIDE HEALTHCARE, TRANSPORTATION, MEALS, UH, WE DO A HIGH COMPONENT OF SOCIAL AND SOCIAL ACTIVITIES TO CREATE, UM, TO, TO PROMOTE, UM, COMMUNITY AND WELLNESS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS HERE TONIGHT FROM ONE OF OUR COMMUNITIES WE'LL SPEAK TO LATER.
UM, HERE'S SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THIS HOUSING PRODUCT TYPE.
WE MANAGE FIVE COMMUNITIES IN DFW.
OUR PREVIOUS ADDRESS, 40% OF OUR PEOPLE COME WITHIN FIVE MILES.
SO ALREADY ME, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITIES, HOMEOWNERS OR, UH, LIVING WITH FAMILY, 60% COME WITHIN 10 MILES.
AND THE, UM, 20% OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS COME FROM OUTSIDE THE MARKET TO BE CLOSER TO THEIR ADULT CHILDREN OR GRANDCHILDREN.
UH, THE AMENITIES WE PROVIDE PICKLEBALL, COURT POOL, COMMUNITY GARDENS, BOCCE, UH, YARD, UM, EVENT, LAWN, UH, OUTDOOR AMENITIES, INDOOR AMENITIES.
WE HAVE A LIBRARY, GREAT ROOM, UH, FITNESS ROOM, WELLNESS ROOM, CARD ROOM, GAME ROOM.
UH, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 7,500 SQUARE FEET OF SHARED AMENITY SPACE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO OUR RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
WE USE THAT SPACE WITH OUR COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES.
WE OFFER SEVERAL ACTIVITIES, WHETHER RESIDENT LED OR COMMUNITY LED THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
UM, AND THAT'S, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PRODUCT TYPE, HAPPY TO ANSWER.
WE'LL HOLD OFF QUESTIONS TILL YOUR
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I THINK YOU MISSED THIS SLIDE, JOHN, IF YOU WANTED TO.SO, AS, UH, SPOKE ABOUT, WE HAVE KIND OF AN ENHANCED AMENITY SUITE.
THAT'S WHAT'S WHAT YOU FIND IN A TYPICAL, UH, APARTMENT COMMUNITY.
UM, AND GOING BACK TO WHAT IS 55 PLUS, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR UNITS WOULD BE 55 PLUS THE FEDERAL LAW, THE HOUSING, UM, FOR OLDER PEOPLE'S PROTECTION ACT ALLOWS US TO LEGALLY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST, UH, ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 55.
NO, NO MINOR CHILDREN, STUDENTS WILL LIVE, ARE ALLOWED TO LIVE AT THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND THEN I SEE THAT, UH, THIS IS THIS WHAT SPEAKS TO THE THAT.
AND THEN, UM, AS PART, AS PART OF THE, THE ZONING WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PUTTING ALL THESE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE PD THAT SPEAKS TO OUR ZONE, UM, AMENITIES AND ALSO SPEAKS TO, UH, OUR ACTIVITIES CALENDAR AND, AND COMMUNITY SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE TO OUR RESIDENTS.
I'M THE OWNER OF CADENCE HOMES.
I, UH, MY OFFICE IS AT 8,400 BELLEVUE DRIVE, SUITE TWO 60 PLANO.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN BUILDING TOWN HOMES IN DFW FOR ABOUT 26 YEARS.
UH, IF I HAZARD A GUESS, I THINK I'VE BUILT 4,000, 5,000, 6,000 TOWN HOMES.
I'VE NEVER BOTHERED TO GO BACKWARDS AND, UH, COUNT THE MATH.
UM, I AM CURRENTLY THE BUILDER IN AM LEE TREE HOUSE.
AND, UH, WE HAVE, UH, STARTED THE FIRST THREE BUILDINGS THERE.
THE FOUNDATION'S POURED, UH, THE FIRST, UH, BUILDING WILL BE GOING, UH, VERTICAL.
UH, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS OF TOWN LAKE, WHO I MET AT OUR COMMUNITY MEETING, UH, IS IN THE BACK.
UH, SO WE'VE BEEN PRE-SELLING FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS.
WE HAVE NINE PRE-SALES, AND IT'S A MIX OF 30 SOMETHING COUPLES AND SOME EMPTY NESTERS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GOT INVOLVED WITH AM LEE AND, AND DID ALL THE WORK TO BE THE BUILDER IN THAT COMMUNITY, I GOT A COLD CALL FROM ADDISON FROM WAYNE IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, AND HE SAID, COME ON IN.
UM, SO HE SAT AND TALKED TO US ABOUT THE GOALS AND THE PLANNING DOCUMENT, AND HE SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME INCENTIVES, ACCOMMODATIONS WERE POSSIBLE TO HELP PROMOTE, UH, US BUILDING FEE SIMPLE HOUSES.
SO THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, UH, WE HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR WITH THE STAFF THAT GETTING SOME ACCOMMODATION ON THE PARK CREDITS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS LAND IS SO EXPENSIVE.
AND I WAS WANTED TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THAT CAME UP IN THE, THE PRE-MEETING.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY THAT IS IN THIS, UH, REQUEST.
SO, UM, OUR PROPOSAL TO BUILD THE TOWN HOMES NEXT TO THE TOLLWAY, YOU KNOW, BUILDING TOWN HOMES, WERE ATTRACTING, UM, BUYERS WHO PRIORITIZE CONVENIENCE ACCESSIBILITY IN A LOW MAINTENANCE LIFESTYLE.
UM, THEY VALUE CONVENIENCE OVER LOT SIZE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN OF ADDISON TO ME IS THE AMENITY.
THE, THE, THE THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO DO IN THE COMMUNITY ARE, ARE PRETTY SPECIAL IN MY OPINION.
UH, THE COMMUNITY WILL BE MANAGED BY AN HOA WHO SORT OF THE POLICE FOR THE OPEN SPACE.
UH, I BELIEVE THE THE STREETS ARE PRIVATE.
UH, IT IS NOT GATED THOUGH, SO PEOPLE COULD WALK THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE PROBABLY NOT BE WELCOME IN THE PRIVATE SPACES BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS.
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UM, AS JIM WAS SAYING, THE COMMUNITY IS ORGANIZED AROUND OPEN SPACES DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE INTERACTION.WE HAVE PASSIVE GATHERING AREAS, DOG PARK, SHADED SEATING, GAMING TABLES IN A CENTRALIZED LARGE OPEN SPACE TO CREATE AN ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, AT THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THERE WAS A REQUEST TO TRY AND GET OUR OPEN SPACE IN A BETTER LOCATION, IN A BIGGER SIZE.
SO I THINK WE WERE, UM, SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT.
UM, THE PRODUCTS ABOUT 2100 TO 2200 SQUARE FEET.
UH, IT ATTRACTS GENERALLY YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, UH, THROUGH THIS PLANNING PROCESS.
I HAVE HAD MANY, MANY REQUESTS TO, UH, INCORPORATE AN ELEVATOR INTO THIS BUILDING.
AND, UH, I'VE ENGAGED THE ARCHITECT, UH, HE IS WORKING ON AN ADDITIONAL PLAN THAT WE WILL INSTALL AN ELEVATOR INTO THESE BUILDINGS WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE.
UH, I HOPE TO BUILD AN ELEVATOR BUILDING IN THE AMWAY COMMUNITY IN PHASE TWO, UM, BY INCORPORATING THE ELEVATOR, UH, IN ADDITION TO GETTING YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, WE SHOULD ATTRACT EMPTY NESTERS AND PEOPLE THAT WANNA AGE IN PLACE.
UM, LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE SALES DATA FOR TOWN HOMES, COMPARABLE DFW, UH, DATA, AND I'M SORRY, I'M NOT HITTING THE SLIDESHOW AS I DO THIS.
UM, THIS IS A ARTISTIC RENDERING OF THE BUILDING THAT IS, UH, BEING BUILT IN AMLI.
IT IS WHAT I'M THINKING OF RIGHT NOW FOR THIS SITE.
UH, I MAY INCLUDE ANOTHER ELEVATION OR TWO, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
I INCLUDED SOME TYPICAL INTERIORS OF THE HOMES I BUILD, UH, WITH MODERN CABINETS, WATERFALL COUNTERTOPS, WOOD FLOORS, ET CETERA, SITE PLAN.
COMPARABLE, DFW INDICATES FEWER THAN 9% OF TOWN HOME CLOSINGS EXCEED 200,000 OR 500,000 IN THE DFW MARKET.
WE ARE TARGETING AN AVERAGE SALES PRICE OF APPROXIMATELY 600,000, PLACING IT IN THE UPPER TIER OF TOWNHOME SALES IN THE MARKET.
IF PEOPLE INCLUDED AN ELEVATOR, THAT'S PROBABLY ANOTHER 50, $60,000 ON TOP OF THAT TO INSTALL
AND TO SUM UP, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PRESENTATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE SITE WERE MINUTES, UH, FROM THE DALLAS NORTH TOLL WAY, WE'RE CLOSE TO ADDISON'S RESTAURANTS AND ENTERTAINMENT.
UH, THERE'S EMPLOYMENT EVERYWHERE.
UH, I BELIEVE THERE'S A DEMAND FOR LOW MAINTENANCE HOUSING LIMITED.
THERE'S A LIMITED SUPPLY OF LUXURY TOWN HOMES CURRENTLY IN ADDISON.
YOU SAW WHAT WAS UP ON THE BOARD, AND I THINK THIS PRODUCT SUCCESSFULLY FILLS A GAP BETWEEN THE APARTMENTS THAT PROLIFERATE ADDISON AND, UH, DETACHED HOMES.
AND WITH THAT, UH, WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, MR. BOONE, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
DO YOU, DOES SPARROW DO ALL LEVELS OF SENIOR HOUSING? NO, WE JUST, YOU WEREN'T SPEAKING TO IT, BUT YOU, AND YOU COMMENTED ABOUT IT, BUT I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T TAKE IF YOU REALLY DID THAT OR YOU ARE ONLY A 55 PLUS.
WE JUST OPERATE WITHIN THE ACTIVE ADULT SPACE.
AND YOU CAN'T ANSWER IN THE OTHER QUESTIONS I HAD.
SO, UM, ANYBODY, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS, DAVE? YEAH.
UM, I'M CURIOUS, YOU SAID CONTOUR IS DOING THE HORIZONTAL.
SO WALK US THROUGH HOW THE PROJECT WOULD UNFOLD.
SO YOU WOULD TAKE THE LAND DOWN IMMEDIATELY FROM THE COLLEAGUE PRO FOLKS.
I MEAN, HOW YOU BUILD IT OUT? HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT.
YEAH, SO, UM, MY HOME BUILDING COMPANY, I DON'T DO HORIZONTAL IMPROVEMENTS.
I'M A MECHANICAL ENGINEER BY BACKGROUND.
I PUT IMPROVEMENTS IN THE GROUND, BUT MY COMPANY CURRENTLY DOESN'T DO THAT.
SO I HAVE ENGAGED JIM TO PUT THE IMPROVEMENTS
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IN THE GROUND FOR ME.NOW WE'RE BRINGING IN ANOTHER USE AND WE'RE ALL GONNA WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD THESE UTILITIES THAT ARE FOR THE TOWN HOMES AND FOR THE ACTIVE ADULT, UH, KIND OF AS A UNIFIED PROJECT.
SO WE'LL HAVE INTERNAL AGREEMENTS ON SHARING COSTS AND, AND THAT TYPE OF THING, SIR.
SO THE, UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL ALL GO IN DAY ONE, ESSENTIALLY, UH, COR CORRECT? IT MIGHT BE PHASED IN CERTAIN, YEAH, YEAH.
BASICALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS, IS THE, THE EAST WEST ROAD FROM ADDISON ROAD TO THE TOLL WILL BE INSTALLED, ALL THE CONNECTIONS TO THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE PERIMETER WILL BE INSTALLED.
AND, UM, THE, THE, UM, UH, UH, INDEPENDENT LIVING WILL HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE TO THEIR FRONT DOOR.
AND THEN I WILL BUILD THE ALLEYS AND STREETS TO CONNECT SO THAT, SO THAT CADENCE CAN BUILD, BUILD THE TOWN HOMES.
AND THAT WILL HAPPEN IN, IN, UH, EITHER ONE PHASE OR A PHASE ONE A AND ONE B, UM, ON THE TOWN HOMES.
SO CONTRA WILL BE THE OWNER OF THAT ONE BOAT? YES.
I WANNA GO DOWN A DIFFERENT ROAD WITH MR. BOONE REAL QUICK HERE.
DO YOU DO PROJECTS WHERE YOU HAVE A PARTNER NEXT TO YOU WITH A SITE THAT DOES AN ASSISTED, A FULL CARE, ALL OF THAT? OR IS THAT COMPLETELY AGAINST YOUR BUSINESS PLAN? NO, WE, WE, UH, HAVE, WE'VE NEVER DONE IT IN A COLLABORATIVE SENSE WHERE IT WAS A, YOU KNOW, A LARGE PROJECT WHERE EVERYTHING, THE PARCELS, BUT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, OUR CUSTOMER IS DIFFERENTIATED AND WE'VE BEEN NEXT TO MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITIES.
WE DON'T COMPETE WITH THE SAME PEOPLE.
WE'VE BEEN NEXT TO INDEPENDENT LIVING COMMUNITIES.
WE DON'T COMPETE WITH THAT, THAT CUSTOMER, OUR PRICE POINT FOR WHAT WE OFFER IS ABOUT A 40 TO 50% DISCOUNT TO INDEPENDENT LIVING.
SO IT'S A LOWER PRICE POINT, AND WE'RE ABOUT A 20%, 2020 5% PREMIUM TO CONVENTIONAL MULTIFAMILY, UH, FOR THE SERVICES WE OFFER.
AND THE BENEFIT OF LIVING AMONGST YOUR AGE COHORT? I, I, I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING AND, AND YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION IS, IS IN, AND I'VE WORKED ON PROJECTS WHERE IT'S ALL KIND OF THERE WHERE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY MOVE, AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU AS AN OWNER, BUT I'M NEXT.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE TOWN, AND A LOT OF COMMENT THAT WE HEAR IS, IS A NEED FOR ALL PHASES OF LIFE.
AND, AND THIS PROJECT ISN'T ADDING TO THAT.
I MEAN, IT'S ADDING TO ONE PHASE, BUT IT'S NOT TAKING THAT NEXT, AND THE TOWN OF ADDISON DOESN'T HAVE A, UH, YOU KNOW, ASSISTED LIVING OR FULL TERM CARE.
SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET TO A FIGURE OUT IF THAT WAS THE THOUGHT ABOUT IF ANYBODY APPROACHED ANY OTHER PROVIDERS OF THOSE FOR THIS PROJECT OR NOT.
UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU DESCRIBE FOR ME, YOU HAVE THESE TWO UNITS HERE THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY, THESE LITTLE TWO COTTAGE UNITS.
UH, WHAT'S THE QUESTION REGARDING, I, I'M, I'M JUST, I'M TRYING TO REFER TO THEM, SO TO SEE IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
THOSE, THOSE TWO UNITS THERE, ARE THEY, ARE THEY INTEGRAL TO THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF THIS PROJECT? ARE THEY REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE PROJECT? UH, WE JUST HAD EXTRA SPACE THERE AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, I MEAN, IT'S TWO UNITS, SO IT'S, THE DEAL'S NOT THAT TIGHT.
SO COULD YOU ENVISION A SHARED CLUBHOUSE, I'LL CALL IT, WITH FOOD AMENITY, THAT MIGHT, UH, BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY? YOU COULD HAVE, IT'S VERY OFTEN DONE IN, IN OTHER PLACES LIKE FLORIDA WHERE YOU HAVE A CLUBHOUSE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO PURCHASE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MEALS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
COULD YOU ENVISION THAT BEING PART OF THAT SHARED PARK? MAYBE A, UM, I'LL CALL IT A HOUSE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO CALL IT AS BEING FINANCIALLY VIABLE AND, UH, ADDING A, UH, FOOD SERVICES.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD MAYBE GET THIS PROPERTY TO BE MORE IN THE INDEPENDENT LIVING CATEGORY.
JUST IN MY EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE.
I'VE SEEN SOME VERY BIG DEVELOPMENTS SUPPORT LIKE A CENTRALIZED COFFEE SHOP, UH, MOSAIC UP IN SALINA AND THOUSAND LOTS.
I MEAN, HOW BIG IS THAT? YEAH.
AND, AND ESSENTIALLY MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE DEVELOPER HAS TO UNDERWRITE THAT STORE.
SO AS A PROVIDER OF A TOWN HOME WITH PRIVATE STREETS,
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ANYTHING THAT IS BURDENING THESE DO DUES ADDITIONALLY IS A NET NEGATIVE TO MY PURPOSE.SO THE ANSWER, THE ANSWER IS NO, YOU CAN'T ENVISION THAT JUST FINANCIALLY DOESN'T WORK.
UM, YOU DO OTHER THINGS WITH FOOD FOR YOUR RESIDENTS.
YEAH, IN OUR COM OUR COMMUNITIES, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, POTLUCKS AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF MEALS, BUT NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I'M GUESSING WITH ALL THE RESTAURANTS, LIKE WE'D ONLY BE SERVING THE TOWN HOMES AND THE, OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
WHAT THERE, I DON'T THINK WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT A FINANCIALLY VIABLE RESTAURANT.
WELL, THIS IS ACTUALLY DIRECTED AT BILL CAULEY, I THINK IF YOU HAVE THE HISTORY.
SO
YOU INITIALLY SET IT UP UNDER THAT MODEL AND THEN HAD A A, APPARENTLY A PRETTY LIVE PROSPECT WHO WENT AWAY.
I'M REALLY CURIOUS BECAUSE THE COMMUNITIES THAT SURROUND US HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT CONTINUING CARE MODEL.
I THINK PLANO HAS ROUGHLY 40 VARIOUS LEVELS.
CARROLLTON HAS FARMER'S BRANCH.
I'D REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND BETTER WHY THAT MODEL DOESN'T APPLY OR DOESN'T WORK IN ADDISON FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
MY PERSPECTIVE IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME.
SO I, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THEY TOLD ME AS I, 'CAUSE I CONTACTED A, ANYONE THAT I KNEW EXISTED, I CALLED, I DIDN'T, I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU I CALLED THEM ALL, BUT I CALLED A LOT OF THEM.
THEY STARTED KNOWING ME BY, BY VOICE WHEN THEY PICKED UP THE PHONE.
UM, THEY SAID THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL OTHER FULL SERVICE FACILITIES BUILT IN AND AROUND THE AREA, NOT IN ADDISON, BUT THE ONE THEY KEPT, UH, TALKING ABOUT IS THE ONE AT ARAPAHO THERE THAT, UM, I FORGET THE NAME OF, IT'S VERY HIGH END SENIOR HOUSING DEAL.
AND THEY JUST SAID, LISTEN, WE THINK THAT THERE IS MORE SUPPLY THAN DEMAND, AND NOT JUST IN ADDISON, BUT THEY THINK, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR SURROUNDING AREA WHERE THEY WOULD WANT TO DRAW FROM.
AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, SPARROW WAS THE ONLY ONE WHEN I WENT BACK OUT AFTER TWO YEARS AND TRIED AGAIN.
UM, I'VE, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD HOWARD HELP ME AND I'VE CALLED A FRIEND OF HIS IN ATLANTA, AND HE DIDN'T GIMME MUCH HOPE, BUT HE'S WORKING ON IT.
BUT, UM, SO I'VE, I THINK I'VE, I'VE EXA EXASPERATED THE PEOPLE THAT DO IT, AND THEY JUST FEEL IT DOESN'T WORK.
I, I DON'T, SO I REALLY DON'T KNOW OTHER THAN WHAT THEY TOLD ME, BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU I MADE A HELL OF AN EFFORT TO TRY TO TALK TO ALL OF THEM.
SO IN, UH, UH, IT MAY NOT BE FOR YOU, SIR, SO YOU MIGHT WANT YOU, YOU FEEL FREE TO GRAB A SEAT.
UM, SO I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THE CHOICE TO GO WITH ALL SURFACE PARKING FOR THE, UM, A 55 PLUS COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF HAVING A GARAGE AND MAYBE SOME MORE GREEN SPACE.
UH, WAS IT A COST THING OR, UM, ANY, ANY, ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT, ON THE SITE PLAN FOR THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY, WE WERE AT, WE WERE ABLE TO ADEQUATELY PARK OUR SITE WITH A SURFACE PARK AND STILL PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, AMPLE GREEN SPACE, UH, FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, THE BENEFIT OF GOING WITH A, A STRUCTURED PARKING WOULD ALLOW US TO DO MORE UNITS, UM, OUR PRODUCT TYPE.
UM, MOST ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITIES ARE ROUGHLY 150 TO MAYBE 200 UNITS.
SO PART OF THAT IS THE LEASE UP VELOCITY, UH, OF THESE COMMUNITIES IS ABOUT SIX MOVE-INS PER MONTH.
WE BEGIN THE PRE-LEASING PROCESS ONE YEAR BEFORE CLUB DELIVERY, GET TO ABOUT 30%, UH, PRE-LEASE PRIOR TO OPENING THE DOORS.
IF WE WERE BUILT TO 250 UNITS, OUR LEASE UP WOULD BE TOO LONG.
SO IT'S, IT'S MORE THE, UH, APPROPRIATE SIZE FOR THE CAPITAL MARKETS.
UM, AND THEN I THINK KIND OF PIVOTING TO KIND OF ANOTHER SIDE, BUT DEFINITELY A, YOU QUESTION, UH, SARAH, UH, THE, YOU SAID THEY STAY ABOUT FIVE YEARS ON AVERAGE, KINDA ENTERING IN THEIR LATE SIXTIES, EARLY SEVENTIES.
DO YOU GUYS TRACK ANY OF THEIR REASONS FOR LEAVING? ARE THEY GOING TO OTHER ACTIVE ADULTS? ARE THEY GO INTO, SO OUR, UM, RENEWAL RATE AT OUR COMMUNITIES, UM, IS 80% PLUS.
UM, THE, THE PRIMARY REASON FOR MOVE OUT, UM, WE CALL NON-CONTROLLABLE.
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WE NEED FOR HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE OR, UM, A, YOU KNOW, A LIFE EVENT.I'M RELOCATING TO BE CLOSER MOVING OUTTA MARKET.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S A NOT A VERY TRANSIENT, UH, POPULATION.
THEY'RE, THEY TAKE A LONG TIME TO MAKE A DECISION AND WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, WE OFFER TWO YEAR LEASES SO THAT THEY, OUR PEOPLE WANNA LIVE WITH US, UH, FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, DAVE.
UM, YOU KIND OF PUT YOURSELF ON THE SPOT.
YOU MENTIONED YOU'VE DONE FOUR, 4,000 TO 6,000.
SO THIS IS CURRENTLY, I BELIEVE 108 UHHUH
JUST DOING A LITTLE BACK OF THE ENVELOPE.
IF YOU WERE TO DEVELOP THE WHOLE SITE AS TOWN HOMES, IT'D PROBABLY BE IN 180 RANGE.
UM, NOT THAT THAT'S A PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE, BUT WALK ME THROUGH WHY THAT WOULD BE NOT SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO DO OR WOULD DO.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING, IF WE CAME BACK A THIRD TIME,
YOU KNOW, THE, THE PACE OF OF A $600,000 TOWN HOME IS NOT SEVEN A MONTH.
SO WHEN YOU START GETTING BIG NUMBERS, UH, TO WORK THROUGH THE COMMUNITY TAKES A REALLY LONG TIME.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR A NUMBER, HEY, WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE THAN THREE YEARS OF INVENTORY IN A PROJECT.
SO IF I'M GONNA SELL 36 HOUSES A YEAR, UM, IT'S APPROXIMATELY A THREE YEAR DEAL.
IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF COOPERATION, UH, FROM BILL, BUT IT'S, UM, IT IS AN ALTERNATIVE PATH.
OH, DARN IT, UH, BRUNO, SORRY YOU'RE WALKING AWAY.
I HAD, I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, NOW YEAH, I, I I LOVE THAT YOU MENTIONED THE ELEVATOR.
UH, WAS, YOU KNOW, EXPENSIVE, BUT IT'S GOOD THAT IT'S AN OPTION.
WHAT, WHAT WERE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS SITE FOR AS FAR AS LIKE HAVING A SMALL CADRE OF LIKE ONE STORY TYPE, UH, TOWN HOMES THAT WOULD KIND OF, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO FROM THE THREE TO THE ONE TO THE 55 PLUS IF NEEDED.
SO THE, I HAVE BUILT ONE STORY TOWN HOMES AND I'M CURRENTLY DOING IT OUT IN MESQUITE.
AND, UM, HOW MUCH ARE THE LOTS? THEY'RE $50,000.
SO A ONE STORY TOWN HOME, THEY'RE GENERALLY ABOUT 35 FEET WIDE, 30 TO 35 FEET WIDE, AND THEY ARE, UH, MAYBE 50 FEET DEEP.
UH, THE FOOTPRINT OF A THREE STORY TOWN HOME IS 21 BY 43.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS SITE AND ITS LOCATION TO THE TOLLWAY, UM, AND ITS VALUE BECAUSE OF THAT, UH, IT, IT REQUIRES DENSITY AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET THE DENSITY IS SMALL FOOTPRINT BUILT VERTICALLY.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO FIND A PLACE TO BUILD SINGLE STORY TOWN HOMES.
IT'S JUST WHEN YOU EQUATE WHAT YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THE LAND AND YOU COME OUT WITH A, YOU KNOW, A 1500 SQUARE FOOT TOWN HOME THAT'S, YOU KNOW, $800,000 OR SOMETHING, PEOPLE AREN'T INTERESTED IN IT.
IF YOU HAVE A SITE, I'D LOVE TO DO IT.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S THIS SITE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, THANK YOU ALL.
UH, HAVING SEEN NONE, I'LL OPEN THIS UP TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES PLEASE.
I CURRENTLY WORK AS A COMMUNITY MANAGER FOR SPARROW LIVING AND HAVE JUST REACHED FIVE YEARS WITH THEM.
SO OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE A GREAT COMPANY TO WORK FOR.
WHAT I CAN DO IS PUT THE FACE TO ALL THIS, THE HEART TO ALL THIS.
I HAVE THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THESE INDIVIDUALS WHEN THEY WALK IN THE DOOR.
SOME OF THEM ARE GOING THROUGH A VERY HARD TIME IN THEIR LIFE.
SOME OF THEM ARE EXCITED FOR THE NEXT CHAPTER IN THEIR LIFE, AND WE GET TO HELP THEM NAVIGATE THAT.
NOW, YOU KNOW, THE POOL IS GREAT.
YEAH, YOU GOT A FITNESS CENTER, YOU KNOW, BUT THERE'S, IT'S WHAT WE DO WITH THOSE THINGS WHEN WE'RE IN THE POOL, WE'RE DOING WATER AEROBICS.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WITH FAMILY, WHICH IS WHY MANY OF THOSE
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DO MOVE TO OUR COMMUNITIES TO BE CLOSER TO THEIR GRANDCHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN.AND THAT'S A BIG PLUS FOR YOU ALL HERE IN THE CITY OF ADDISON TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT.
FOR THOSE THAT CURRENTLY LIVE HERE, UM, BOCCE BALL, I MEAN, EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO, PICKLEBALL, BOCCE BALL, THE FITNESS CENTER IS GOING TO KEEP THEM MOVING.
WE WORK VERY, VERY HARD TO GIVE THEM A LIFESTYLE AND AN ENGAGEMENT PROPERTY.
AND WE WANT THEM TO BE INVOLVED.
WE WANT THEM TO BE ACTIVE AND WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
WE ALSO WANT THEM TO FEEL LIKE THEY BELONG.
AND WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO BRING WITH THEM THE THINGS THAT THEY LOVE TO DO AND TO SHARE THOSE THINGS WITH OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY HAVE THAT PLACE TO BELONG.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY FEEL A HOME WHEN THEY WALK IN THAT DOOR.
'CAUSE THEY'RE LEAVING BEHIND, IN MANY CASES, A HOUSE THEY'VE LIVED IN FOR DECADES.
JUST THINK ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT THAT IS TO WALK AWAY FROM YOUR STUFF.
BUT WITH US, THEY HAVE THAT SUPPORT.
THEY HAVE THOSE NEIGHBORS, THEY HAVE THAT LOVE, NOT JUST FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT FROM THE STAFF WHO'S THERE TO HELP THEM NAVIGATE THROUGH THIS, THROUGH ALL THE CHALLENGES THEY'RE ABOUT TO, TO FACE GOES DOWN THE ROAD THAT THEY COULD FACE.
BUT WE ARE FAMILY FIRST AND FOREMOST TO ALL OF THEM.
AND CAROL CAN ATTEST TO EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING.
YES, CAROL, IF YOU WANNA COME UP, PLEASE STATE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR RECORD.
YES, I'M CAROL CLARK AND I LIVE AT 46 15, THE STATION BOULEVARD IN AXE.
UH, VETERAN RESIDENT AT AMBER LYNN FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW.
MOVED FROM A SINGLE HOME AND I, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW EXCITED I AM EVERY DAY TO GET UP AND GO TO EXERCISE CLASS OR WATER AEROBICS, OR A LOT OF TIMES THEY FALL ON THE SAME DAY AND I'M EXHAUSTED WHEN I GET HOME.
BUT IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS COMMUNITY.
I OPEN MY DOOR AND THERE'S SOMEBODY WALKING BY AND IT'S A HALF AN HOUR IT TAKES ME TO GET TO MY CAR BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS, THEY'RE PART OF MY FAMILY.
UM, I DID MOVE THERE TO BE CLOSE TO MY FAMILY.
I'M GLAD THAT I LIVE IN A SENIOR RESIDENCE 'CAUSE I DO HAVE MY GRANDKIDS A LOT AND I KNOW I DON'T WANNA LIVE NEXT TO THEM OR WITH THEM.
UH, LOVE THEM A LOT, BUT NOT, UM, I, I JUST CAN'T, CAN'T TELL YOU ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON.
I HAVE A YARD AND I HAVE TWO BIG DOGS.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN VERY WELCOMED AND, AND APPRECIATED, I SHOULD SAY.
UH, EVERYTHING I NEED, THERE'S A PARK BEHIND OUR FACILITY, A PUBLIC PARK.
UH, AND SO WE WALK THERE EVERY DAY.
EVEN IN A HUNDRED DEGREES, THERE'S SHADE.
UM, IT'S JUST THE COUNTLESS BENEFITS.
UH, I I'M GLAD THAT I DO LIVE IN A 55 AND OVER, UH, INDEPENDENT LIVING.
UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE ALL REAL BUSY AND REAL ACTIVE AND WE'RE ALL THE SAME.
UM, I GUESS THAT'S NOT A CHRISTIAN WAY TO PUT IT.
BUT ANYWAYS,
EVERY WEDNESDAY IS A PARTY, UM, FIVE O'CLOCK.
AND, UH, I, I CAN'T TELL YOU ENOUGH HOW MUCH I LOVE THIS PLACE.
CAN I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU? THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
MAYBE I COULD HAVE MY MOM CALL YOU AND GET HER CONVINCED.
I LIVE AT 39 19 BOBIN IN ADDISON.
I, UH, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT YOU HAVE SOME VERY QUALITY DEVELOPERS AND OWNER, AN OWNER THAT'S BEEN INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME, AND I EMPATHIZE WITH THEIR POSITION ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
I DO HAVE A CONCERN THAT YOU ARE NOT GETTING, UH, THE QUALITY OF, OF OPEN SPACE AND STRUCTURED PARKING, UH, THAT YOU WOULD GET IF YOU ALLOWED THEM SOME DENSITY.
I THINK THE PROJECT IS NOT DENSE ENOUGH.
I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, THIS FIXATION WITH PROVIDING FEE SIMPLE HOUSING, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
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AND THE COUNCIL TO REVISIT THAT ISSUE.'CAUSE I THINK IT'S INCORRECT FOR A COMMUNITY LIKE ADDISON.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE, THE TOLLWAY ON ONE OF THE OTHER PROJECTS, THERE IS, UH, MR. FOLSOM BUILT OFFICE BUILDINGS.
AND I REALIZE THERE'S NOT A MARKET THERE FOR THAT NOW, BUT THERE WAS A BUFFER.
AND MY, ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS IS THAT THERE IS NO BUFFER FOR THESE RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND THAT IT'S LOUD.
AND I HAVE HAD PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN ADDISON PLACE THAT HAVE TOLD ME THEY CAN HEAR THE TOLL AWAY FROM WHERE THEY LIVE.
AND I, I AM, UH, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
I DO THINK THAT IF YOU LOUD SOME DENSITY AND GAVE THIS SOME DIFFERENT THOUGHT THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET A PROJECT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP BLOCK SOME OF THAT SOUND.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL, WILL CONSIDER THAT ISSUE.
IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT WHEN YOU HAVE A, UH, UM, A GOOD DEVELOPER AND A GOOD OWNER AND GOOD PEOPLE INVOLVED TO, UM, TO NOT LET THEM DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
BUT SOMETIMES THE PROJECT IS JUST NOT AS GOOD AS YOU COULD GET.
AND THAT'S MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET RIGHT NOW DOESN'T ALLOW YOU BUILD OFFICE.
THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA COME BACK FOR A WHILE.
I, LIKE I SAID, I EMPATHIZE WITH THEM, BUT I DO THINK ON THE RESIDENTIAL PROJECT PRODUCT THAT YOU OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT, UH, ALLOWING THEM MORE DENSITY.
WE HAVEN'T BUILT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, IN THIS TOWN WITH SURFACE PARKING IN 20 YEARS.
AND THERE'S A REASON BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT A VERY EFFICIENT WAY TO DO IT.
IT'S NOT THE BEST USE OF THE LAND.
AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TRY TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND ALLOW THEM MORE DENSITY AND ALLOW AND NOT BE SO HUNG UP ON THE FEE SIMPLE.
OBVIOUSLY I'M A FAN OF WHAT THE, UH, DEVELOPER THAT BILL'S FEE SIMPLE IS BUILDING IN ADDISON.
AND I THINK HE'S A REALLY GOOD DEVELOPER.
BUT MAYBE THERE ARE SOME THINGS YOU CAN LOOK AT THERE, UH, THAT WOULD HELP.
ANYONE ELSE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING? COME ON UP, HOWARD.
GOOD AFTERNOON OR EVENING THIS, I'M HOWARD FREE.
I LIVE AT 14 9 32 WYNWOOD ROAD AND I REALLY JUST CAME TO LISTEN.
I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING.
I'VE BEEN TO MEETINGS BEFORE WITH BILL PRIVATELY WITH RANDY AND BILL AND ME.
I'VE BEEN TO THE, I WAS ONE OF THE NINE PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP THAT LESLIE ALLUDED TO.
AND REALLY, UM, I ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT MEETING LIKE 10 MINUTES BEFORE I SHOWED UP.
SO THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT IT.
UM, AT THAT MEETING, THE NINE PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP WERE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS PLAN.
AND THERE WERE SEVERAL REASONS.
UH, WHEN BRUNO SPOKE JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO, I REMEMBER ASKING HIM AT THAT MEETING, WHAT ABOUT ELEVATORS? BECAUSE THESE UNITS, THESE 108 UNITS ARE GONNA BE THREE STORY MASTER BEDROOM ON THE TOP.
AND AS AN OLD PERSON, THAT DOESN'T APPEAL TO ME AT ALL.
AND THE HOME I LIVE IN, THE MASTER BEDROOMS ON THE GROUND.
SO I LOOK AT THINGS THROUGH MY OWN EYES.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT HOW EVERYBODY LOOKS AT THINGS, BUT I SUGGESTED AN ELEVATOR.
I WAS TOLD IT WASN'T FEASIBLE.
SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT IT IS.
I TOLD THEM AT THAT MEETING, THOUGHT THIS WAS A GREAT PLAN, JUST NOT FOR ADDISON.
AND THE PROBLEM IS ADDISON HAS TOO MANY APARTMENTS.
WE'RE ALREADY IN THE 80 PERCENTILE OF APARTMENTS.
THE FEE OWNERSHIP, IT'S NOT A GOOD BALANCE.
I DON'T WANNA SEE IT GET ANY WORSE.
LESLIE SAID IT WOULD BE ABOUT FOUR TENTHS OF A PERCENT BETTER THAN WHAT'S PLANNED.
BUT EVEN THAT WE'RE STILL TOO FAR OUT OF BALANCE.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE APPROVING MORE APARTMENTS.
AND, UM, IF WE DO, I HOPE IT HAS AN ELEVATOR.
I DID CALL, UH, BILL AND TOLD HIM ABOUT A FRIEND OF MINE WHO'S ACTUALLY IN BIRMINGHAM.
IT WASN'T ATLANTA, BUT HE MIGHT BE.
HE MIGHT HAVE A PLACE THERE TOO.
BUT ANYWAY, THEY, ALL THEY DO IS WHAT WE WANT.
THEY BUILD SENIOR FACILITIES THAT TAKE PEOPLE THROUGH THE LEVELS FROM INDEPENDENT TO ASSISTED TO MEMORY CARE TO SKILLED NURSING.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE OF ADDISON ONE, AT LEAST THE OLDER PEOPLE.
AND HE SAID TO ME, HE'S GOT ONE IN SAN ANTONIO, HE'S GOT ONE IN AUSTIN, HE'S INTERESTED IN TEXAS, THAT DALLAS MARKET IS SATURATED.
BUT HE WAS REALLY INTRIGUED BY ADDISON.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME HAS BEEN.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
UM, AND TO ME, 55 PLUS APARTMENTS IS STILL APARTMENTS.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE AGE OF THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE APARTMENTS.
SO BY THE TIME MY SON IS 55, HIS SON WILL BE 14.
I GUESS HE COULDN'T LIVE THERE.
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I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE HIS CHILD WOULD BE UNDER THE AGE OF 18.THOSE THAT ARE GRANDCHILDREN, THEY'RE STILL NOISY TO HAVE KIDS.
UM, LET'S SEE IF I MADE ANOTHER NOTE HERE.
UH, I THINK I COVERED ALL MY POINTS.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
ANY OTHERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ANYONE ONLINE? OKAY.
HAVING SEEN NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE OPEN PORTION OF THIS MEETING.
UH, COMMISSIONERS ANY FOLLOW UPS THAT YOU HAVE? YEAH, UM, I'M, THANKS DAVID.
I I'LL GO AHEAD AND WRAP UP MY THOUGHTS KIND OF QUICKLY.
UM, SO I CAN KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, JUST AHEAD OF THE DECISION.
SO I LIKE THE TOWN HOMES, RIGHT? I THINK I, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
I THINK IN IMPROVING THE PROPORTION OF FEE SIMPLE IS, IS A GOOD THING.
UM, UM, BUT, UM, SO I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T WANNA SEE NECESSARILY THOSE GO AWAY.
UM, THE, UM, I THINK THE PRIVATE GREEN SPACE IN THE TOWN HOMES, I LIKE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH GREEN SPACE ON, UH, THE, THE PLAN.
I AGREE WITH RON AS STRUCTURED PARKING SOME MORE DENSITY I DON'T THINK WOULD HURT, RIGHT? UM, OVERALL, SOME OF MY CONCERNS WITH THIS, RIGHT, THE, THE IDEA OF THE 55 PLUS FRIENDLY COMMUNITY, IT'S GOT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF AMENITIES RIGHT THERE.
THE, UM, THERE'S ACTIVITIES AND STUFF TO DO.
WE KIND OF HAVE THAT IN ADDISON CIRCLE.
IT'S LESS REGIMENTED, BUT IT'S KIND OF A MORE ORGANIC PEOPLE AT ALL STAGES OF LIFE LIVE IN ADDISON CIRCLE.
THERE'S RESTAURANTS THERE, THERE'S POOLS THERE, THERE'S ACCESS TO FITNESS THERE.
UM, THERE'S A DIVERSITY OF HOUSING THERE.
THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN BE A MEMBER OF THE, UM, OF THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB.
SO I, I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK TOWARDS MORE ORGANIC WAYS TO INTEGRATE ALL STAGES OF LIFE IN, IN, IN THE BEST EXAMPLE THAT WE HAVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WE SHOULD CALL OUT THAT THE DENSITY DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THE COMP PLAN THAT WE ALL VOTED.
MOST OF US VOTED IN FAVOR FOR, UH, WHERE WE HAVE THIS AS A HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CORRIDOR.
UM, WE MADE THAT CHOICE DELIBERATELY.
WE WORKED WITH STAFF FOR TWO YEARS ON IT.
NOBODY MADE ANY FUSS ABOUT IT IN THE COMP PLAN COMMITTEE THAT WAS IN.
AND WE ULTIMATELY APPROVED IT HERE.
I I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THAT DECISION LIGHTLY.
UM, MY CONCERN WITH DEDICATING TOO MUCH OF THE, OR GIVING TOO MUCH OF A RELIEF ON THE FEES, NOW I SEE, I SEE WHAT THEY WERE GOING FOR.
UM, BUT LIKE THEY'RE GONNA USE OTHER PARKS IN, IN, IN ADDISON AND, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THEM HAVE THEIR SPACE, BUT IF THEY'RE GONNA USE THE REST OF THE TOWN SPACE, I I, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE CONSIDERATION ON NOT GIVING THEM TWO THIRDS OF IT BACK.
UM, YOU KNOW, LET, LET'S NEGOTIATE, BUT I THINK THAT IS TOO MUCH.
THEY SHOULD PAY FOR THE PARKS THAT WE WILL ALL BE USING.
UM, YEAH, AND I THINK ULTIMATELY, LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S JUST A CERTAIN LACK OF CONNECTION TO THE, THE REST THAT I, I DON'T LOVE HERE.
UM, I SHARED THE ARTICLE WITH THE COMMISSION KIND OF REGARDING A DRIVE SPAN.
THERE ARE TWO BUS ROUTES THAT RUN ALONG THIS ROUTE.
BUT MOST OF THE RESIDENTS HERE ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE DRIVING PLACES.
AND AS YOU KIND OF APPROACH THE END OF THAT DRIVE SPAN, WHICH IN THE ARTICLE THEY KIND OF MENTIONED, IT'S TOWARDS THE END OF YOUR SEVENTIES, WHICH HITS THAT FIVE YEAR MARK THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE SEEING, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LESS OF THAT ABILITY AND NOTHING TO DO IN WALKING DISTANCE.
UM, ORBIT PUBLIC TRANSIT WILL HELP THAT.
BUT THE FACT THAT THERE'S NOTHING TO WALK TO HERE, UM, IS ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE.
SO I WANTED TO TO TO, TO WRAP ALL THAT UP IN A NICE BOW SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE THAT AHEAD OF THE DECISION.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SHARE.
DAVE, UM, WELL SAID
UM, THIS IS 11 ACRE PARCEL IN A TOWN THAT HAS VERY, VERY LITTLE UNDEVELOPED LAND.
UM, EVEN TONIGHT YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT VISIONS FOR WHAT THAT PARCEL SHOULD LOOK LIKE FROM HIGHER DENSITY TO MORE FEE SIMPLE.
UM, I THINK THE ISSUE THAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH MORE THAN ANYTHING IS THE APARTMENT PIECE.
AND YOU CAN WRAP IT HOWEVER YOU WANT, BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T PROVIDE THAT CONTINUUM OF CARE THAT I THINK A LOT OF RESIDENTS OF ADDISON REALLY ARE LOOKING TO GET.
AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT SPARROW DOES A GREAT JOB.
I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THE RESIDENTS IN, IN SPARROW'S PROJECTS ARE, ARE FRANKLY VERY HAPPY.
BUT THAT'S ONE LEG OF A THREE-LEGGED STOOL AND THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE TO IT THAN JUST THAT.
SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I JUST DON'T SEE THIS AS THE RIGHT MOVE.
BACK TO, UH, TYLER'S POINT AND EVEN TO THE ORIGINAL ZONING, UH, CHANGE.
THIS SITE WAS MEANT TO BE A MORE DENSELY DEVELOPED SITE.
AND WHILE I AM PROBABLY THE LARGEST PROPONENT OF FEE SIMPLE HOUSING ON, AT LEAST IN MY HOUSEHOLD, UM, IT, IT REALLY KIND OF BEGS
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THE QUESTION OF HAVE WE SETTLED? HAVE WE RECOGNIZED A PROBLEM BUT NOT QUITE TAKEN IT TO THE, TO THE FINAL EX TO THE FINAL ENDPOINT? SO FOR ALL THOSE REASONS, I THINK WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT REALLY IS VERY REFLECTIVE OF A BROADER ISSUE, WHICH IS WE'RE NOT READY, WE'RE NOT AT A POINT TONIGHT TO SAY, YEAH, WE THINK THIS IS THE PATH FORWARD.IT DOESN'T MEAN IMPORTANTLY THAT WHAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING DOESN'T HAVE LEGS TO IT AND CAN'T BE WORKED.
BUT IT DOES MEAN THAT AS IT IS PRESENTED TONIGHT, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER.
UM, JUST TO MAKE IT SIMPLE AND, UM, SUMMARIZE MY FIRST STOP.
THE, THE, THE BASE OF MY DECISION IS TO DOWNGRADE THE ZONING IS JUST A NO GO FOR ME.
THERE WAS A LOT OF EFFORT, A LOT OF TIME, LOT OF, LOT OF, UH, THOUGHT THAT WENT IN IN PUTTING THE ZONING TOGETHER AND FOR US TO, UM, SET ASIDE THAT FROM THE GET GO.
UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, UH, TO THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
UH, I DON'T THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE REALIZE THE EFFORT, UH, TIME AND EXPENSE THAT GOES IN.
AND IT IS A VERY GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO TRY TO MEET CONFLICTING DEMANDS OF THE TOWN.
UM, AND I DO BELIEVE, UH, OWNERS HAVE A RIGHT TO DEVELOP LAND.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PRINCIPLE.
UM, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, THAT THE REALLY, UM, DEPTH OF EFFORT HERE, UH, TO TRY TO MEET THAT REGARDLESS OF, OF HOW WE MIGHT VOTE.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? OKAY, WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES.
YEAH, I THINK, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY CASE 1953 DASH Z REGARDING, UH, ADDISON GREEN, UM, CHANGE IN ZONING TO, UM, ALLOW FOR A, UH, CHANGE IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
I'M NOT SURE IF I COVERED THAT ALL, BUT DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND THAT.
ANY OPPOSED? UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE MOTION DOES NOT PASS.
AND LESLIE, DO WE NEED TO SEC VOTE ON THE SECOND MOTION OR DOES IT GO AWAY? OKAY.
CAN I GET A, A MOTION FOR ITEM AGENDA NUMBER FIVE PLEASE.
IT DOESN'T NEED A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING, DOES IT? IT DOES.
YES, AT THIS TIME I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY CASE NUMBER.
WAIT, IT DOES NEED A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
CHAIR, COULD YOU PLEASE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM FIVE? APOLOGIES.
ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK ON THE CHANGE IN THE COMP PLAN? ANYBODY ONLINE HAVING SEEN NONE? WE'LL CLOSE THE OPEN PORTION.
SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? IS IT POSSIBLE THAT ASK A QUESTION? OKAY.
I CAN REOPEN THIS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK THE COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS DURING AN OPEN PERIOD ANYWAY.
SO I I MEAN, YOU CAN DIRECT STATEMENTS TO US, BUT YOU CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS OF US JUST LOOKING FOR SOME GUIDANCE.
'CAUSE WE HAVE GOTTEN SO MANY OPINIONS THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
IT'S MADE IT, WE'VE SPENT A TON OF MONEY AND WE THINK WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS AND THEN IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT OPINION.
SO TOWN HOMES AND SOMETHING THAT HAS TWO TYPES OF CARE, DOES THAT GET CLOSE OR IS TOWN HOMES LIKE WE DON'T WANT THEM OR JUST A LITTLE MORE GUIDANCE I THINK WOULD BE, I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S IF THIS PORTION OF OPEN, BUT I THINK YOU WE'RE WELCOME TO STAY OFF ORDER AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU INDEPENDENTLY.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE WILL REACH TO SPEAK IN THE OPEN PORTION.
HAVING SEEN NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE OPEN PORTION AGAIN.
AND DO WE HAVE A MOTION AT THIS TIME? I WILL PRESENT A MOTION TO DENY CASE CPA 2 0 2 6 DASH ZERO ONE SLASH COMP PLAN AMENDMENT ADDISON GREEN.
WITH THAT, MOVING ON TO ITEM NINE.
UH, ITEM SIX, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PERMITTED USE AND DEVELOPMENT STA STANDARDS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
PLAN FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE NUMBER 0 9 2 DASH 0 3 7 AND 0 9 8
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DASH 0 4 9 4.APPROXIMATE ACRE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF BELTLINE ROAD IN EAST MARSH AND ADDRESSED AS 37 11 BELTLINE ROAD CASE 1955 DASH Z REMINGTON, ADDISON PLAZA PD AMEND AMENDMENT.
GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER COREY BECK WITH THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UM, I HAVE A REQUEST FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT FOR, UH, TONIGHT TO, UH, INCREASE THE PERMITTED USES AND, UM, TO, UM, AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE UN UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE RIGHT NOW OR SO.
THE HISTORY ON THIS PROPERTY IS THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED INDUSTRIAL AND IN 1992 IT WAS REZONED FROM INDUSTRIAL TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH THEN ESTABLISHED THE PREVENTED USES AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
IN 1998, THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT, UM, THAT APPROVED THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS THEMSELVES, AND THEN IT HAS PRETTY MUCH REMAINED THE SAME
AND THEN TODAY I HAVE, UH, BEFORE YOU, LIKE I SAID, THE AMENDMENT FOR ADDING MEDICAL CLINIC, UM, AND THE, UM, UH, ALIGNING THE RESTAURANT AND PARKING RATIOS FOR THE UDC STANDARDS.
UH, SO THE PROPOSED USES TO BE MODIFIED IS TO ADD MEDICAL CLINIC.
UM, THIS WAS CAME BEFORE STAFF WHEN, UM, A TENANT TRIED TO APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT TO OPEN A DENTAL OFFICE, UM, IN, AT THE PROPERTY.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY AT THAT TIME, THE A BUILDING PERMIT, UM, UH, WAS, UH, PUT ON HOLD BECAUSE THE ZONING DID ON NOT ALLOW FOR A MEDICAL CLINIC, UM, BECAUSE THE PERMITTED USES ARE, DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING THAT IS EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO MEDICAL CLINIC FOR THE DENTIST OFFICE.
UM, THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED, IT'S A VERY LONG LIST
UM, SOME EXAMPLES OF IT WOULD BE AN ANTIQUE SHOP ART GALLERY, UM, A DRUG STORE ELECTRICAL GOOD AND FOR RETAIL SALES, UM, FILM DEVELOPING AND PRINTING FIX-IT SHOPS A FLORIST, UH, JEWELRY SALES, A LIBRARY, UM, OFFICE BUILDING PARKING LOT WITH NO, UM, PUBLIC GARAGE, UM, PIANO, MUSICAL INSTRUMENT, RETAIL SHOP, UH, TAXI STAND AT WASHATERIA, UH, AND SO ON.
SO THERE'S A VERY LONG LIST OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED, HOWEVER, MEDICAL USES ARE NOT ALLOWED THERE.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, THEY STAFF RECOMMENDED TO UPDATE THE RESTAURANT USES BECAUSE THE
SO STAFF DID RECOMMEND TO THE APPLICANT TO, UM, CHANGE FROM RESTAURANT WITH SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO RESTAURANT, THEN USING THE UDC STANDARDS, WHICH AS A REMINDER ARE THAT RESTAURANTS AFTER 11:00 PM THAT OP OPERATE AFTER 11:00 PM WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND THAT RESTAURANTS, UH, TURN OFF AMPLIFIED SOUND AT 11:00 PM SO THAT'S WHAT OUR UDC SAYS TODAY.
AND THEN WE ALSO RECOMMENDED TO REMOVE THE RESTAURANT WITH ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION, UM, FROM THE LIST OF USES BECAUSE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION IS ALLOWED IN OUR RESTAURANTS WITHOUT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
ADDITIONALLY, WHEN STAFF WAS REVIEWING THE APPLICATION, WE UM, NOTICED THAT THE PARKING RATIOS WERE A LITTLE OUTDATED FROM WHAT OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE ALLOWS TODAY.
UM, SO WE RECOMMENDED TO THE APPLICANT AS WELL THAT THEY, UH, THAT WE REQUEST TO MAKE THE, UH, PARKING RATIOS MORE IN LINE WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SO ALL OF THE USES ARE LISTED ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
SO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT IS A RE RETAIL USE WOULD ACTUALLY, UH, REQUIRE LESS PARKING THAN WHAT THEY THE PD REQUIRES TODAY.
AND GOING DOWN FROM THERE, THE MEDICAL OR DENTAL CLINIC WOULD REQUIRE LESS PARKING BANKS AND SAVINGS, UH, OR FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS WOULD REQUIRE LESS PARKING OFFICE WOULD REQUIRE LESS PARKING.
UM, INDOOR RECREATION IS THE SAME.
UM, SO MOVIE THEATER IS CONSIDERED AN INDOOR RECREATION AND RESTAURANTS WOULD ACTUALLY REQUIRE LESS PARKING AS WELL.
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THEY ARE REQUIRED, I BELIEVE IT WAS LIKE 230 SPACES WITH THEIR CURRENT, UH, TENANTS THAT THEY HAVE.AND, UM, AND ONSITE THEY DO ARE, ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT, I BELIEVE.
AND, UM, UH, WITH THE FOLLOWING THE UDC PARKING RATIOS, THEY'D ONLY BE REQUIRED ABOUT 180 PARKING SPACES.
UH, KEEP IN MIND THERE ARE NO PROPOSED SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, THIS IS PURELY JUST TO, UH, HAVE A PD BE USING THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, UH, FOR ITS REGULATIONS.
UH, SO THE REC OR THE APPLICATION IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR UNIFIED, SORRY, WITH OUR
UM, IT IS IN THE URBAN VILLAGE PLACE SITE, AND IT IS WITHIN THE ENHANCED SPECTRUM OF CHANGE.
UM, BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS, UM, ARE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE WEST SIDE OF ADDISON AND IT IS COM IN COMPLIANCE WITH ADJACENT LAND USES.
UH, THIS PROPERTY ITSELF CONTAINS RESTAURANTS, UM, OFFICE SPACE, RETAIL, PERSONAL USES, UM, AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING AREAS ARE ALL THOSE USES AS WELL.
UH, AND AN ADDITIONAL TO, UH, THE NORTH OF IT, YOU HAVE A HOTEL.
SO HAVING, UH, OTHER TYPES OF SERVICES READILY AVAILABLE FOR, UH, THE, FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND JUST GENERAL PUBLIC IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS LOCATION.
STAFF DID NOTICE, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION AS OF THE POSTING OF THE AGENDA OR INPUT, EXCUSE ME.
AND UH, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS PROPOSAL AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR, UM, POLICIES AND ADOPTED PLANS OR REGULATIONS.
UM, I IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES,
I DIDN'T KNOW THE APPLICANT QUESTION HERE, SO WAIT A MINUTE.
UM, APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
I CAN'T ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR CORY FIRST BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
YES, JUST GO AHEAD REAL QUICKLY.
WHERE DO MEDICAL DISPENSARIES FALL IN FOR US RELATED TO A MEDICAL CLINIC? MEDICAL DISPENSARY, AS IN, UM, LIKE THOSE FALL UNDER RETAIL SALES, SO THAT'S ALREADY ALLOWED.
SO WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE? BY KEEPING THE PD INSTEAD OF JUST GOING TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL AS, AS A BASE DISTRICT, UM, WE WOULD NEED TO EVALUATE THE ENTIRE SITE FOR COMPLIANCE WITH ALL UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE STANDARDS.
UM, SO, UH, THAT THEN MAY TAKE THEM OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH OTHER, UH, STANDARDS.
SO AMENDING THE PD TO BE MORE IN LINE IS A LITTLE, IS A LITTLE EASIER FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER THAN, UM, DOING ALL THE REVIEW OF EVERYTHING.
AND SINCE WE'RE ALLOWING MEDICAL USAGE, THEY'RE TALKING DENTIST OFFICE RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY COULD IN THEORY HAVE ANY SORT OF MEDICAL OFFICE UP TO AND INCLUDING LIKE THOSE LITTLE EMERGENCY ROOM THINGS.
UH, I DO NOT BELIEVE IN E AN EMERGENCY LIKE AN ER CLINIC.
UM, I CAN PULL UP THE DEFINITION OF MEDICAL CLINIC, UM, AND VERIFY THAT REALLY FAST FOR YOU THOUGH.
NOT, NOT A HUGE DEAL, BUT THANK YOU.
YOU MENTIONED THE PARKING RATIO AND THE, THE DELTA BETWEEN THE EXISTING, UNDER THE PD AND THE POTENTIAL OR THE, IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, IT'S LIKE 50 SPACES I THINK ROUGHLY.
IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER, I BELIEVE.
UM, I BELIEVE I'LL, I CAN PULL UP THE ACTUAL CALCULATIONS AS WELL.
MY MY QUESTION TO YOU IS KIND OF GENERIC IN, IN A SENSE AND MAYBE TOO BROAD, BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, ARE WE CREATING, WHICH IS A GOOD THING, A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR LAND FOR DEVELOPERS TO INCREASE THEIR BUILDINGS BECAUSE THEIR PARKING RATIOS DECREASE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SITE, DOES THIS MEAN THAT OKAY, YOU HAD TO HAVE 230 SPACES, NOW YOU HAVE HAVE 180.
OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A HUGE REDUCTION AND THAT ALLOWS THEM TO BUILD OUT MORE.
IS THAT, IS THAT AN, IT'S A QUESTION THAT IS A LITTLE BIT GENERIC, BUT I'M REALLY CURIOUS BECAUSE THAT'S A, AS A REAL ESTATE GUY, THAT IS A HUGE NUMBER.
I MEAN, I'M TELLING YOU PEOPLE WOULD KILL FOR FIVE SPACES, SO, UM, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT.
YEAH, SO, UM, IF THE PROPERTY OWNER DID CHOOSE TO REDEVELOP THE SITE OR DO SOME TYPE OF AN ADDITION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BALANCE THE ADDITIONAL, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY'RE ADDING, AN ADDITIONAL USE WITH THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT THEY WOULD BE THEN TAKING AWAY FROM THEIR PARKING LOT, UM, WITH THE REMAINING PARKING SPACES.
UH, THAT IS NOT THE PROPOSAL TODAY, BUT IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY CHOSE TO DO, UM, IT WOULD STILL COME BACK BEFORE STAFF FOR
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A REVIEW AND EVERYTHING.UM, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO FIND THAT FINE BALANCE.
ONCE IT'S APPROVED, THEY'D HAVE, THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
UM, IF THE PROPOSED USES, UH, WELL NO, UH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UM, FOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS BECAUSE IT IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE, SO PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL WOULD BOTH SEE AND APPROVE, UM, ANY NEW PLANS FOR AN ADDITION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO.
ARE YOU RESEARCHING YOUR MEDICAL OR DO YOU WANT THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING? YEAH, UM, APPLICANT CAN SPEAK WHILE I'M LOOKING IF YOU LIKE.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
HI, MY NAME IS ASHLEY LYNCH AND I, UM, AM A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.
OUR OFFICE IS AT 33 11 OAK LAWN, SUITE TWO 50 IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
UM, I'LL KIND OF KEEP IT BRIEF 'CAUSE SHE PRETTY MUCH SAID EVERYTHING I WOULD SAY.
UH, BUT OUR, THE OWNER HAS HAD THIS BUILDING SINCE 2015, SO ABOUT 10 YEARS NOW, AND PLAN TO CONTINUE INVESTING INTO THIS PROPERTY FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
UM, WE BELIEVE THAT ADDING MEDICAL USE WOULD ENHANCE THE VALUE AND CREATE NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUTURE TENANTS, UM, BY PROVIDING GREATER FLEXIBILITY, UM, ATTRACTING HIGH QUALITY AND LONG TERM TENANTS.
UM, WE BELIEVE IT'LL STRENGTHEN THE OVERALL CHARACTER OF THE SHOPPING CENTER AS WELL AS JUST ADD TO, UH, BE A POSITIVE ADDITION TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON.
UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT, SO THANK YOU FOR Y'ALL'S TIME AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR OKAY, THANK YOU.
COREY'S GOING TO ANSWER A QUESTION, THEN WE'LL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, THE, UM, DEFINITION FOR MEDICAL CLINIC DOES ACTUALLY INCLUDE EMERGENCY AND URGENT CARE FACILITIES, HOWEVER IT DOES SPECIFY THAT IS WITHOUT AMBULANCE SERVICES.
OKAY, WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THIS.
DOES ANYBODY CARE TO SPEAK AND ANYBODY ONLINE? OKAY.
HAVING SEEN NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THIS FOR THE PUBLIC PORTION.
AND DO I HAVE A MOTION? WE'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF CASE 1955 DASH Z SLASH REMINGTON ADDISON PLAZA PD AMENDMENT.
UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AN ACTION ON A REQUEST TO REZONE 0.56 ACRE PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 38 10 BELTLINE ROAD PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD, ORDINANCE NUMBER OH 22 DASH 27 2 COMMERCIAL LIMITED ZONING, DISTRICT CASE 1961 DASH Z ROADRUNNERS COFFEE REZONING CO.
OKAY, UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS AGAIN.
CORY BECK ADDISON, UM, THE TOWN OF ADDISON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UM, TODAY, TONIGHT I HAVE A REZONING REQUEST TO GO FROM A PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO A BASE DISTRICT FOR COMMERCIAL LIMITED FOR, WE RECEIVED AN APPLICATION FOR TO PUT IN A ROADRUNNER'S COFFEE DRIVE THROUGH AT THE OLD SALAD AND GO LOCATION.
UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS FOR THAT AND, UM, HAVE COME TO A POINT WHERE THEY HAVE REALIZED THAT THEY NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, HELP WITH WHAT THEIR ZONING ALLOWS, THEN WHAT STAFF CAN ADMINISTRATIVELY, UM, APPROVE.
SO THAT IS WHAT THE REQUEST IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
UM, THE PROPERTY HISTORY IS FAIRLY EXTENSIVE.
UM, I DID NOT INCLUDE IT ALL IN THE PRESENTATION.
IT IS ALL IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS PDS AND PD AMENDMENTS SINCE 1980 WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED THE FIRST PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
UH, BUT MOST RECENTLY IT WAS REZONED TO A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN 2022 THAT HAD A BASE DISTRICT OF LOCAL RETAIL, WHICH IS NOW OUR, UM, COMMERCIAL LIMITED IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
WITH THE ADOPTION OF THAT, WE TRANSITIONED TO A NEW NAMING.
UM, THE REQUEST WAS REALLY DRIVEN BY, UH, LOWERING THE PARKING RATIO.
THE PREVIOUS OR THE PD, UH, DOES A ONE TO 70 PER ONE SPACE PER 70 SQUARE FEET, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE 13 PARKING SPACES.
AND THE COMMERCIAL DIS COMMERCIAL LIMITED DISTRICT HAS A PARKING RATIO FOR THE RESTAURANTS OF ONE SPACE PER 100, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE NINE PARKING SPACES.
THE, UH, PROPOSAL, UM, NOT THAT IT'S RELATED TO THE REASONING, BUT I BELIEVE THE PROPOSAL HAS 11 PARKING SPACES IN IT.
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UH, IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.THE AREA IS, UH, DESIGNATED AS AN URBAN VILLAGE AND HAS A ENHANCED SPECTRUM OF CHANGE DESIGNATION.
UH, IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH OUR MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
UM, THE BELTLINE IS DESIGNATED A PRINCIPLE ARTERIAL AND AN ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR.
THE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE TO BELTLINE, SO THERE'S NO, UH, PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THE PARKS AND RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN DOES NOT HAVE ANY PARKS FOR THIS PROPERTY.
UM, HOWEVER, THE, UH, THE ENHANCEMENTS THROUGH THAT MASTER PLAN ARE FOCUSED MAINLY ON BELTLINE AND WITH THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN THERE IS, UM, BELTLINE IS DESIGNATED A WIDE SIDEWALK WITH A BUFFER AND THESE ENHANCEMENTS HAVE, UH, BEEN COMPLETED AS WELL.
IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT USES.
THERE IS VARIOUS COMMERCIAL USES AND ALL OF THESE USES ARE, UM, A COMPATIBLE WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL LI UM, LIMITED ZONING DISTRICT.
AND IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH OUR EXISTING ZONING.
UM, IF YOU REMEMBER PREVIOUSLY, UH, JUST DOWN THE ROAD, ONE, ONE COMMERCIAL DRIVE ALSO REZONED, UM, TO A COMMERCIAL LIMITED ZONING DISTRICT, UH, FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND THIS IS IN THE SAME LINE AS THAT STAFF DID NOTICE.
UM, WE SENT NINE NOTICES TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS AND AS OF POSTING, UM, AND TODAY WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY INPUT FROM RECIPIENTS.
STAFF HAS REVIEWED IT AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR TOWN POLICIES AND OUR MASTER PLANS.
AND I AM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND I DO NOT BELIEVE OUR APPLICANT IS HERE TODAY.
HOW IS THERE SEATING SPACES IN THIS FACILITY? NOT TO MY RECOLLECTION, DRIVE THROUGH.
LOSS OF PARKING SPACES IS NOT TECHNICALLY THAT CRITICAL IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
IT WOULD BE FOR ESSENTIALLY FOR STAFF.
I DO BELIEVE THERE'S A DRIVE UP, UM, NOT A DRIVE UP WINDOW, A WALK UP WINDOW, UM, IN THE FRONT.
SO THERE WOULD BE SOME PARKING THAT IT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR PUBLIC, BUT I IMAGINE MOST OF THEIR, UH, BUSINESS IS THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH.
I'M GONNA THROW YOU FOR A LOOP AND YOU'RE GONNA LAUGH AT ME.
ANY IDEA WHAT'S, IS IT DONE THAT'S DOWN AT THE TOM THUMB.
DUTCH BROTHER, DUTCH BROTHERS.
DUTCH BROTHERS NOT A COFFEE DRINKER.
SO I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA GO, DOES HOW MANY PARKING DNAI DAY, HOW MANY PARKING SPACES DOES IT HAS? OKAY.
MAKING COMPARABLES MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT ONE ACTUALLY HAS A LOT OF ACTIVITY, SO MM-HMM
I DON'T, I'VE NEVER SEEN A PARKING ISSUE IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
AND I JUST CURIOUS IF IT'S 'CAUSE CAN YOU PULL UP THE PLAN AGAIN AND JUST SHOW ME WHERE THE ADDITIONAL LANE IS BEING PROPOSED BECAUSE I LOOKED AT, UM, BASICALLY FROM GOOGLE IS LIKE, IT'S ALREADY THERE.
I DON'T, UH, SO THEY HAVE THE START OF A SECOND DRIVE THROUGH LANE.
UM, IT CURRENTLY, UH, SO THEY HAVE TWO ORDERING AREAS, BUT THEN IT MERGES BACK INTO ONE, UH, ONE LANE WHEN IT ACTUALLY GETS TO WHERE YOU WOULD PICK UP ORDERS.
AND THE CURRENT PROPOSAL FOR, FOR THIS IS TO EXTEND BOTH DRIVE-THROUGH LANES THE ENTIRE DISTANCE, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT CHICK-FIL-A HAS.
LESLIE, THAT'S A, IS IT THE FACILITY THAT MUCH, BUT YOU GIVE THE ANSWER AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH MY NEXT QUESTION.
UM, SO I JUST COUNTED THE UH, PARKING SPACES AT THE EXISTING DUTCH BROS, WHICH IS OFF OF MARSH LANE AND THERE ARE 43 PARKING SPACES, WHICH I WILL NOTE, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY EXCEEDS OUR CURRENT MAXIMUM IN THE UDC OF 125% BECAUSE I HAVE NOT MEASURED, BUT LOOKING AT THEIR BUILDING, I WOULD GUESS IT IS LESS THAN 3000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.
AND IS THAT A ONE DRIVE-THROUGH OR TWO DRIVE-THROUGH IT IS, UH, TWO, WELL IT'S TWO, THERE'S TWO DRIVE-THROUGHS.
INITIALLY IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE CURRENT SETUP.
SO IT'S TWO DRIVE-THROUGHS INITIALLY, TWO ORDERING AND THEN IT MERGES TO ONE FOR THE PICKUP.
THE ONLY ONE THAT I'M CONCERNED THAT IS THAT STARBUCKS IN THE CORNER THAT IS SO HORRIBLE AND THAT'S PROBABLY THAT THE SITE'S TOO CONTROLLED AND THEY CAN'T CHANGE IT, BUT THEY HAVE PARKING AND DRIVE-THROUGH PROBLEMS, BUT THAT'S JUST BUSYNESS AND YOU CAN EAT INSIDE AND GO INSIDE AND CAMP OUT ALL DAY.
SO I'M NOT AS BOTHERED ON THIS ONE ANYWAY.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANKS COREY.
AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ANYBODY ONLINE? HAVING SEEN NONE? UH, WE WILL CLOSE THE OPEN PORTION OF THIS ITEM.
AND DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL GO AHEAD.
APPROVAL OF CASE 1961 DASH Z SLASH ROADRUNNERS COFFEE REZONING AS WRITTEN.
ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, MOTION CARRIES.
LAST THING ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZEN COMMENTS.
AT THIS TIME, CITIZENS WILL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON ANY MATTER
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OTHER THAN PERSONAL MATTERS UNDER LITIGATION FOR A TIME LENGTH, FOR A LENGTH OF TIME NOT TO EXCEED THREE MINUTES.NO P AND Z ACTION OR DISCUSSION MAY TAKE PLACE AT ANY MATTER UNTIL SUCH MATTER HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE AGENDA AND POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAW AS ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
ANYBODY IN LINE? OKAY, HAVING SEEN NONE, UH, WE CLOSE THAT AND WE ARE OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED FOR OUR MEETING.