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YOU GOOD? OKAY.

THE, THE TIME IS,

[Call Meeting to Order]

UH, FOUR OH TWO, AND WE'RE GONNA CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER OF THE, UH, COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE A QUORUM WITH ALL MEMBERS PRESENT.

AND SO WE'RE GONNA START,

[a. Consider action on the Minutes from the June 29, 2026 City Council Community Partnership Committee Meeting.]

UH, START WITH, UH, REGULAR AGENDA TWO A, CONSIDER ACTION ON THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 29TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE MEETING.

UM, I ASSUME EVERYBODY'S HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW REVIEW THOSE.

HMM.

UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR ANY, ANY EDITS, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE? MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

UH, TO BE

[b. Consider action on the Minutes from the July 9, 2026 City Council Community Partnership Committee Meeting. ]

CONSIDER ACTION ON THE MINUTES FROM THE JULY 9TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE MEETING.

ANY QUESTIONS OR EDITS ON THOSE MINUTES? MM-HMM.

I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

AND THEN

[c. Discuss applications received from non-profit organizations for the FY2027 Non-Profit Funding Program and consider action on funding recommendations to City Council. ]

TWO C, DISCUSS APPLICATIONS RECEIVED FROM NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 NONPROFIT FUNDING PROGRAM AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL.

SARAH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

UM, SO WE DID PREPARE JUST A FEW SLIDES FOR YOU.

UM, AS WE INTRO TO YOUR DISCUSSION ON YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, WE WENT OVER THIS IN THE FIRST MEETING, SO I'LL GO THROUGH THIS RATHER QUICKLY.

UM, BUT JUST FOR A QUICK REVIEW, UH, THIS IS THE PROCESS.

WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT MIDDLE COLUMN, UH, WHERE WE'RE MEETING, UH, THIS EVENING FOR THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH WOULD GO FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP PROCESS ON AUGUST 8TH, AND THEN AS PART OF THE OVERALL BUDGET PROCESS.

SO OUR FIRST CATEGORY IS THE LOCAL SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS.

THESE WERE THE CRITERIA THAT WE WENT THROUGH IN THE FIRST MEETING THAT ARE ALSO PART OF THE NONPROFIT FUNDING GUIDELINES.

THEY'RE JUST GENERAL FACTORS THAT MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMITTEE AS YOU'RE, UM, CONSIDERING YOUR, CONSIDERING YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, THIS IS, UH, IN TERMS OF THE, UH, ORGANIZATIONS THAT APPLIED FOR FUNDING IN THIS CATEGORY AND LOOKING AT OUR GENERAL FUND, UH, BUDGET, THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE HERE, THIS 287,000 THAT IS LISTED, THAT IS JUST FLAT FROM THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET.

SO WE PUT THAT IN.

UH, WE'LL HAVE A, BRING UP A WORKSHEET AFTER THIS THAT THE COMMITTEE CAN GO THROUGH.

UM, BUT THAT'S THE PLACEHOLDER WE HAVE INSERTED.

AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE CHILD SAFETY FUND, WHICH TRAFFIC 9 1 1 WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING OUT OF THIS FUND.

AND THAT IS WHERE THEY WERE FUNDED FROM IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

UM, SO WE'VE PROVIDED A FULL OVERVIEW OF THIS FUND.

UH, STEVEN CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON IT, BUT JUST SHOWING YOU THE, IN TERMS OF THE ANNUAL OPERATING REVENUES COMING IN AND THE FUND BALANCE OVERALL, UM, THAT WE HAVE THERE IN THAT FUND.

AND THEN LASTLY, UM, IS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS PART OF THE LOCAL SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS CATEGORY.

UM, SO THESE TWO ORGANIZATIONS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND, AND THAT IS THE CHAMBER AND THE WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL.

AND THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE INSERTED IS THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.

UM, SO JUST BEING FLAT .

AND THEN MOVING INTO THE SECOND CATEGORY THAT WE HAVE IS THE PERFORMING ARTS ORGANIZATIONS CATEGORY.

UM, SO AGAIN, THESE ARE THE GENERAL FACTORS THAT THE COMMITTEE, UH, MAY CONSIDER, UM, INTO THOSE THREE BUCKETS THERE THAT WE REVIEWED DURING THE FIRST MEETING IN TERMS OF USAGE OF THE ADDISON, THE AUDIENCE AND COMMUNITY IMPACT, AND THE ARTISTIC AND MISSION CAPABILITY OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS FOR FUNDING.

UM, WE HAVE IT LISTED HERE IN TERMS OF, UH, THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT APPLIED, UH, FOR FUNDING THIS YEAR.

UM, AND THEN THE TOTAL, UH, CATEGORY BUDGET THAT WE HAVE LISTED IS THE MAXIMUM INVESTMENT AMOUNT, UM, THAT WE WENT OVER IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

SO THAT IS THE NUMBER THAT IS CURRENTLY PLUGGED IN WOULD BE THE MAX.

AND THAT INCLUDES THE TOWN CURATED EVENTS BUDGET, UM, AS WELL.

AND THEN THESE COUPLE OF SLIDES WE WERE INCLUDED PRIOR.

UM, JUST SO YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THE ADDISON IN TERMS OF, UM, EVENTS AND PERFORMANCES THERE YEAR OVER YEAR.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE, THIS SHOW IS PROJECTED THROUGH THE END OF THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

THESE ARE ALL OF THE GROUPS THAT HAVE, UM, EVENTS OR PERFORMANCES AT THE ADDISON.

UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE THAT ARE RECEIVING TOWN FUNDING, UM, AS PART OF THIS PROCESS AND APPLIED FOR TOWN FUNDING IN THIS TWO, UH, LAST COLUMNS THERE.

AND THEN ALL THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ARE RENTERS OF THE FACILITY AND, UM, PRODUCING PERFORMANCES WITHOUT

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ANY ASSISTANCE FROM THE TOWN.

AND THEN THIS LAST SLIDE, UH, WE HAD THIS IN THE COMMITTEE LAST YEAR.

UM, JUST ANOTHER WAY OF MATRIX SHOWING THE APPLICATIONS FOR THIS YEAR IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING REQUESTED, AND THEN WHAT THE ORGANIZATION HAD LISTED IN THEIR APPLICATIONS FOR THE NUMBER OF PRODUCTIONS, THE NUMBER OF PERFORMANCES, AND THE NUMBER OF LATE NIGHTS OR DATES.

UM, AND THEN THAT LAST COLUMN IS THEIR PROJECTED AVERAGE ATTEN AVERAGE ATTENDANCE PER EVENT.

SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING MORE AT THE METRICS IN TERMS OF, UM, PERFORMANCES OR AUDIENCE SIZE.

WE WANTED TO JUST PUT THAT IN A CHART SO YOU CAN COMPARE AND CONTRAST THERE.

UM, AND DO WANNA MENTION FOR WATER TOWER THEATER AND FOR THE CLASSICS, THE QUEST AMOUNT LISTED IS THE DIRECT AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT THEY REQUESTED.

THEY DID ALSO REQUEST SOME IN KIND, AND THAT'S LISTED IN THE FOOTNOTES BELOW THE CHART.

UM, I ALSO WANNA MENTION FOR WATER TOWER THEATER, UM, THE OTHER REVENUE THAT THEY HAVE THROUGH AGREEMENT IS THAT THEY PROVIDE CONCESSIONS FOR THE ADDISON.

UM, SO THEY ARE ABLE TO KEEP THAT CONCESSION MONEY AND I THINK IT'S ABOUT $40,000 FOR THEIR LAST FISCAL YEAR THAT THEY RECEIVE.

AND SO THAT'S A QUICK OVERVIEW.

STAFF IS HERE.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AS YOU GO THROUGH THESE FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS.

I'M HAPPY TO BRING UP THE SPREADSHEET IF WE WANNA START WITH, UH, A CATEGORY AND GO FROM THERE.

YEAH, I, UH, I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL IF WE HAD, UH, IF WE, IF WE TACKLED LIKE, UM, UH, TACKLE THESE IN GROUPS MM-HMM .

LIKE, LIKE WE HEARD THE, IN THE ORDER OF THE PRESENTATIONS WE RECEIVED, UM, WITH PERFORMING ARTS, HOTEL FUND, PERFORMING ARTS FIRST.

AND THEN, UM, IF IT HELPS, HELPS THE, THE COMMITTEE, IF WE COULD PUT THAT CORRESPONDING SPREADSHEET AND I THINK YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, GOT THAT, UH, WOULD IT HELP THE COMMITTEE IF WE HAVE THAT UP THERE, TO, TO LOOK AT AS WE GO THROUGH, GO THROUGH EACH ONE IN THIS GROUP? SURE.

OKAY.

UM, SO LET'S START WITH, UH, ACCOLADE.

MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS YOU CARE TO SHARE ON ACCOLADE OR ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, I LIKE THE WORK THEY DO AND I LIKE THAT, UH, WHAT WE DID WITH THEM LAST YEAR.

I WANNA PULL THAT UP.

SEE WHAT IT WAS WE DID WITH THEM LAST YEAR.

YEAH.

5,000 LAST YEAR.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

DID THEY REQUEST 15 LAST YEAR? DO YOU REMEMBER? I SEEM TO RECALL IT WAS ABOVE, I THINK THEIR REQUEST WAS ABOVE WHAT THEY RECEIVED LAST YEAR.

YEAH, I CAN, WE CAN GET THAT IN ONE SECOND.

IT WAS EITHER, IT WAS EITHER 10 OR 15, IF I REMEMBER.

MAYBE 10.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 24 PERFORMANCES.

26.

ONE MORE TIME.

THEY DID.

OKAY.

15,000 LAST YEAR WAS THEIR REQUEST.

AND SO I'VE GOT A QUESTION.

UM, IT, ON THIS SLIDE 10 THAT WE'VE GOT FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION, IT SHOWS ACCOLADE FOR 24 PERFORMANCES.

UM, SO WHEN WE, UH, LET'S SAY WE APPROVE WHAT THEY REQUESTED, UM, AND CAN I, CAN I, CAN I STOP YOU BEFORE YOU DO THAT? YES, SIR.

SO, SO THAT SLIDE YOU'RE LOOKING AT, THE PROJECTED IS DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE I'M LOOKING AT, WHICH IS THAT ONE? 'CAUSE THAT SHOWS 26 FOR ACCOLADE, 55 FOR WATER TOWER, AND YOUR SHOWS 50 FOR WATER TOWER.

I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT NUMBERS HERE.

YEAH.

LITERALLY ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

WHAT , WHAT, WHAT'S THE DATE? WHAT'S THE, DO YOU HAVE A DATE ON THAT? THIS IS FROM THE PRE THE, WELL THIS, THIS IS, IT'S, IT'S THAT, IT'S FROM THE PRESENTATION FOR TODAY, BUT I THINK, I DON'T KNOW HOW I'VE GOT, SO THAT SLIDE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT JULY 16TH, IT'S, IT'S THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO, OH, WOW.

OKAY.

SO WHAT THE NOTION WE BE LOOKING AT, SARAH, THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT CATCH.

IT'S EITHER SLIDE 10 OR 11.

10 AND 11.

THEY SEEM TO DIFFER A LITTLE BIT, BUT MAYBE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT WRONG.

SO, SORRY, SLIDE 10 IS PROJECTED FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR THROUGH

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THIS, THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 26.

NUMBER.

SLIDE 11 IS FOR FISCAL YEAR 27.

HERE WE GO.

THAT'S WHAT WE, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YES.

FOR THE COMING YES, CORRECT.

YEAH.

THIS IS, UH, THE PRIOR SLIDE.

SLIDE 10 IS JUST THEIR, UM, WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY DOING AT THE FACILITY THIS YEAR.

OKAY.

JUST FOR COMPARISON.

THAT'S A COMPARISON REALLY BETWEEN YOUR, THE INFORMATION POINT.

YEAH.

GOOD.

GREAT.

GREAT CATCH.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS WHERE I'M, MY QUESTION, I JUST WANT TO LOCK THIS DOWN.

IT'S, UM, SO THEY'VE COME TO US THIS, THIS SEASON.

THEY'VE ASKED FOR 15,000 AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE SHARED THAT, UH, UH, TOTAL PRODUCTIONS FOR TOTAL NUMBER OF PERFORMANCES, 26.

SO IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS $15,000 NUMBER, WOULD, UH, WOULD WE GET 26 PERFORMANCES IN, IN THE, UH, IN THE AGREEMENT? WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL BE IN THE AGREEMENT? THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST YEAR'S WATER TOWER AGREEMENT, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO CALL OUT THE NUMBER OF PERFORMANCES AND SHOW.

SO YES, THAT IS THE INTENT THAT IT WOULD SAY, YEAH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE VERY HELP.

I GUESS I'M, YOU KNOW, IN MY MIND I'M BASING MOST OF MY DECISION MAKING.

RIGHT? YEP.

IS, UH, AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE NON-PERFORMING ARTS IS, IS BASED ON, UH, ON THESE PERFORMANCES AND THEN WHAT THEY'RE SHARING WITH US, LIKE THE PROJECTED ATTENDANCE AND SO FORTH.

SO THAT, THAT WOULD GIVE ME A BIG LEVEL OF COMFORT, UM, HAVING, HAVING, UM, AS MUCH OF THOSE DETAILS AS WE CAN IN THE EACH ONE OF THESE AGREEMENTS, ESPECIALLY FOR PERFORMING ARTS.

DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS FOR ACCOLADE OR ANY LITTLE CLARIFICATION? I'M THIS CLOSE.

I THOUGHT Y'ALL COULD HEAR ME.

UH, SEVERAL, SEVERAL.

WHEN THEY, IN THEIR PRESENTATIONS, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE EXPENSES OF PUTTING ON SHOWS IN THE ADDISON.

AND, UM, SO FROM THAT I GATHERED THAT THEY WOULD BE PAYING RENT FOR THE ADDISON AND THEY WOULD BE PAYING.

SO ? YES.

THE, THE GROUPS DO PAY RENT.

OKAY.

NOW FOR WATER TOWER THEATER AND FOR, I THINK IT'S JUST WATER TOWER THEATER, CURRENTLY.

THEY HAVE AN IN KIND OF UP TO 20,000 WHERE THEY'RE NOT CHARGED THAT RENT.

AND NOW IF THEY GO OVER THE 20,000 OF INKIND THAT WE'VE PROVIDED THEIR AGREEMENT, THEN THEY WOULD BE PAYING RENT TO USE THOSE BASIC, THOSE ARE GONNA BE QUESTIONS ALL THROUGH THIS MEETING THAT I'M GONNA BE ASKING, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

SO IF, IF WE GIVE, FOR INSTANCE, THE 15 THAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR, SOME OF THE 15 THEN WOULD BE COMING BACK TO THE CITY IN, IN THE FORM OF RENT, THE FORM OF OTHER FEES? THAT IS CORRECT.

I JUST WANNA VERIFY THERE WAS ONE OR TWO THAT MENTIONED SOME KIND OF FEE THAT WE CHARGED THEM TO COME IN AND PERFORM AT THE ADDISON.

UH, SOME KIND OF AUDIT FEE, OR ONE OF 'EM SAID IT WAS SO EXPENSIVE THAT THEY COULDN'T COME IN BECAUSE IT, IT COST AN AUDIT FEE OR SOMETHING.

DO YOU REMEMBER, DOES ANYONE REMEMBER SOMEBODY SAYING THAT IT WAS CLASSICS? MM-HMM .

THE CLASSICS WERE TALKING ABOUT? THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T TAKE THE GRANT LAST YEAR.

CORRECT.

SO WHAT, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THERE? WELL, WELL, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE APPLICATION.

IT REQUIRES YOU TO SUBMIT, NOT NECESSARILY IF THEY'RE SO SMALL, THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE AN AUDIT, AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT DONE.

UM, SO I THINK THERE WERE SOME MISUNDERSTANDING WITH WHAT THEIR INTERPRETATION WAS OF OUR REQUIREMENT OF WHAT THEY WOULD NEED TO SUBMIT AS FAR AS THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE REFERRING TO.

MY MEMORY WAS THEY, THEY THREW LIKE A $20,000 NUMBER OUT THAT IT WAS GONNA COST THEM, YOU KNOW, 15 TO 50 15, 1 15, A LARGE NUMBER.

SO THAT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING.

YOU DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT.

THEY'RE SMALL ENOUGH AND THEIR REVENUE IS, IS SMALL ENOUGH WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO, UH, A FULL AUDIT.

UM, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS GET THEIR, UH, FILINGS WITH THE IRS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE STATE AND THE IRS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

AND THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.

IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THEY'D BE WILLING TO SHARE WITH US, WE'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE IT.

BUT WE'D REALLY JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE IRS.

THEY'VE DONE ALL THEIR FILINGS.

THEY'RE A NONPROFIT, LIKE THEY SAY THEY ARE, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

WE WOULDN'T REQUIRE THEM WITH REVENUE OF LESS THAN $50,000 TO GO OUT AND DO A $20,000 AUDIT.

OKAY.

AND IS THAT ACROSS THE BOARD ON ALL OF THESE

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INDIVIDUAL COMPANIES WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT? OR, OR, OR AT WHAT LEVEL DOES THAT TRIGGER? THERE'S, I MEAN, WELL, ONE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT RISK BASED ON OUR END AS WELL, BECAUSE IF IT'S A SMALLER GRANT REQUEST, THEN THERE'S LESS RISK FOR US.

BUT FOR INSTANCE, LIKE WATER TOWER THEORY, ANY OF THE, ANY OF THE LARGER ONES, METRO CREST SERVICES, THEY'RE ALL REQUIRED TO GET AN AUDIT.

SO THEY'RE ALREADY DOING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

RIGHT.

SO THEY'RE ALREADY JUST SUBMITTING STUFF THAT THEY'RE ALREADY REQUIRED TO DO ANYWAY.

OKAY.

UH, WE'RE NOT REQUIRING ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE IRS OR THE SECRETARY OF STATE OR THE COMPTROLLER WOULD ALREADY REQUIRE OF THEM.

AND THAT'S JUST TO PROTECT US TO, FROM THEM RUNNING OFF WITH OUR MONEY AND NOT DOING PERFORMANCES AND OR NOT BEING IN GOOD STANDINGS WITH THE GOVERNMENT FOR LACK OF THAT.

AND I MEAN, WITH THE FINANCIALS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE, I MEAN, AND, AND, AND DO A PRETTY THOROUGH REVIEW IF THEY DO HAVE AUDITED FINANCIALS.

JUST THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO, ONE, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE IN THE CONTRACT, AND YES.

THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, CEASE TO EXIST AND HAVE THE TOWN'S MONEY AND NOT BE ABLE TO, TO HOLD UP THEIR END OF THE CONTRACT.

W WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACCOLADE RIGHT NOW.

WHAT IS, WHAT WOULD BE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THEM IN THAT CATEGORY ISH? DO YOU HAVE, ARE YOU SO ON, UH, I'M SORRY, .

UH, TYPICALLY ANYWHERE OR REVENUE WISE, IT'D BE 500,000 FOR, FOR AN AUDIT TO BE TRIGGERED.

RIGHT NOW THEY'RE BRINGING IN LIKE ANYWHERE FOR 140,000.

SO THEY'RE, WELL, WELL BELOW ANYTHING, UM, LIKE AN END AUDIT.

RIGHT.

SO WE'RE NOT GONNA REQUIRE THEM TO DO AN AUDIT.

THEY DO PROVIDE FINANCIALS FROM A CPA CPA FIRM, BUT THERE'S NO OPINION ON IT.

SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

SO, SO MOST OF THESE WON'T BE, MOST OF 'EM, THAT, THAT FINANCIAL BURDEN WON'T BE PUT ON MOST OF THESE THAT ARE ASKING, CORRECT? YES.

MOST OF THEM ARE UNDER THE 500,000.

SO YES.

BUT 500,000 GRANT FROM US, OR 500,000 TOTAL REVENUE, ALL REVENUE PER YEAR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SORRY TO GET GET YOU UP ON THAT.

SO, SO WE DO, IF THEY, IF THEY HAVE 50,000 IN OVERALL REVENUE, THEY HAVE TO DO A CERTAIN FILING WITH THE IRS, SO WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION FROM THEM AS WELL.

IF THEY'RE LESS THAN 50, IT'S REALLY JUST, HEY, IRS WE EXIST, WE'RE STILL IN BUSINESS.

WE DON'T HAVE MORE THAN 50,000 IN REVENUE.

THAT'S REALLY ALL WE GET FOR THOSE REALLY SMALL ONES.

UM, BUT THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE GET IF THEY HAVE BETWEEN 50 AND 500,000.

SO WE'RE REALLY NOT PUTTING A HUGE FINANCIAL BURDEN ON THEM ABOVE WHAT THEY WOULD ALREADY BE DOING BY, BY GIVING THEM MONEY.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THOSE OR EVEN THE SMALL ORGANIZATIONS STILL HAVE TO DO RIGHT.

TAXES IN FINANCIALS, SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME, BUT IT, IT MADE SENSE TO ME IF IT COST THEM $15,000 TO GET 10,000 FROM US, THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.

SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

SO AGAIN, THAT WAS JUST A, A MISUNDERSTANDING OR MISCOMMUNICATION ON, UH, I, I THINK THAT THEY, THEY MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS WERE, EVEN THOUGH WE, WE DID GO OVER IT WITH THEM QUITE A BIT THAT WE'RE NOT REQUIRING YOU TO GET, YOU KNOW, AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT.

SO, UM, I JUST THINK THAT THEY MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE REQUIREMENT WAS.

OKAY.

AND, AND ALSO, UH, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CLASSICS ON OUR QUESTION AND ANSWER ON, UH, QUESTION NUMBER 10, UH, IT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES, UH, THAT QUESTION FOR THE CLASSICS.

SO AS WE GET TO THE CLASSICS, UH, WE MIGHT WANNA JUST KIND OF, WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I, I'M JUST TRYING TO, I WOULD MUCH RATHER GIVE AN IN KIND TYPE DONATION IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN CAN DO TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO PERFORM HERE, RATHER THAN CASH.

IF THERE WAS, IF THERE WAS, IF THEY HAD TO DO A $15,000 AUDIT AND WE COULD GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF HELP ON THAT, THAT WOULD BE LIKE GIVING 'EM MONEY.

SO I'M JUST THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT FOR BOTH OF YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO RANDY, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DO THEY DO CONCESSIONS? DO THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR CONCESSIONS OR WHO PROVIDES CONCESSIONS FOR THEM WHEN THEY DO? AND, AND THAT'LL BE KIND OF A QUESTION ACROSS THE BOARD ON ALL OF THESE.

I'M GONNA ASK WATER TOWER THEATER, WATER TOWER THEATER, WATER TOWER THEATER WOULD BE BENEFITING FROM THESE OTHER PERFORMANCES AT THE DEAL, AT, AT, AT THE ADDISON.

AND OF THOSE CONCESSIONS, WHAT WILL THE TOWN BE TAKING FROM THOSE CONCESSIONS? SO, SO WE, UM, SO TYPICALLY IF YOU HAD CONCESSIONS, WE WOULD TAKE ABOUT 20%, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY.

BUT THE AGREEMENT WITH WATER TOWERS, THEY COLLECT ALL OF THE CONCESSIONS REVENUE.

AND I WOULD SAY, I KNOW WE MENTIONED THE $40,000 NUMBER PREVIOUSLY, THAT WAS FOR LAST YEAR FOR CONCESSIONS.

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BUT BECAUSE OUR, OUR NUMBER OF NIGHTS HAVE INCREASED SO MUCH, THAT NUMBER'S PROBABLY GONNA BE HIGHER THIS YEAR FOR CONCESSIONS, I WOULD ASSUME, UM, FOR WHAT WATER TOWER'S GETTING.

BUT THEY PROVIDE CONCESSIONS FOR ANYONE IN THE THEATER.

OKAY.

SO ANY, ANY LIT NIGHT, NO MATTER WHO'S IN THERE, WATER TOWERS, DO THEY PROVIDE THE PERSONNEL TO DO IT? THE, ALL, ALL OF THE MATERIAL? DOES THE TOWN PROVIDE ANY, ARE YOU, DO YOU HAVE TO BE THERE FOR THE CONCESSION? DOES ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE TO BE THERE? WE HAVE A, WELL, WE HAVE A STAFF MEMBER THERE EVERY NIGHT THAT THE BUILDING'S OPEN, BUT NOT FOR THE CONCESSION.

I GOT YOU.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

OH, THANK YOU.

SORRY.

OKAY.

I'M, I'M, I'M TRYING TO LEARN ALL OF THIS.

MM-HMM .

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I THAT, I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR NOW, MARTIN.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

SO I'M JUST GONNA SHARE WHAT'S ON MY MIND ABOUT THE ACCOLADE.

UM, I LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

I THINK THEIR, THEIR REQUEST IS, IS FAIR FOR WHAT, UH, WHAT WE, WHAT THEY'RE PROVIDING TO US.

SO I, I'M, I'M IN APPROVAL OF THEIR, UM, $15,000 REQUEST.

ASK ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT YOU BET.

WHAT, WHAT IS THE TYPICAL RATE ON A NIGHT OF, OF WRITTEN THAT THE ADDISON? OH, I , I DON'T BRING MY STUFF UP THERE.

UM, RENTAL FOR THE STUDIO IS 200 FOR PERFORMANCES FOR THE MAIN STAGE OF $650.

AND FOR THE STONE COTTAGE IS 120.

OKAY.

AND WHERE DOES ACCOLADE, WHERE WILL ACCOLADE BE PERFORMING PRIMARILY IN THE STUDIO THEATER.

THAT WAS, HOW MUCH DID YOU SAY? THAT'S $120.

20, I'M SORRY.

$200 FOR PERFORMANCES? 200 FOR PERFORMANCE? MM-HMM .

FOR PERFORMANCE.

MM-HMM .

SO DO TWO IN ONE DAY, WE'D GET 400.

WE HAVE A 12 HOUR CONTRACT.

OKAY.

SO IF THEY DO, THEY COULD DO A, A TWO O'CLOCK OR FOUR O'CLOCK AND A SEVEN O'CLOCK PERFORMANCE.

IT'S STILL .

PERFECT.

MM-HMM .

UM, THANK YOU.

WAS LAST YEAR, THIS CURRENT YEAR, IS IT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD ACCOLADE OR THEY'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE? OH, THEY'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE, YES.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

DO THEY DO A GOOD JOB? YEAH, THEY DO.

YEAH, THEY DO.

THEY JUST THE CHILDREN'S THEATER.

SO, SO IN ORDER, I MEAN, I, I REALLY, I REALLY WANT THIS TO MOVE ALONG A LITTLE BIT MORE QUICKLY BECAUSE, 'CAUSE UM, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU HAVE ALL THE BACKGROUND AND YOU KNOW OF THE ANSWER TO ALL OF THESE .

I, I DON'T HAVE ALL, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, BUT, UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF 'EM TO GO THROUGH.

OH, I UNDERSTAND.

YEAH.

SO, SO FOR ME, UM, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, UH, BUMPING UP FROM WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR WITH ACCOLADE.

I'M NOT SURE THAT I'M READY TO GO FROM FIVE TO 15,000, BUT I'D BE, I'D BE COMFORTABLE GOING TO 10.

THEY ARE INCREASING THE LIT NIGHTS AND THE NUMBER OF A COUPLE PERFORMANCE BY COUPLE, COUPLE PERFORMANCES FROM, FROM THE CURRENT YEAR.

I COULD AGREE TO 10 ON WITH, WITH THEM AS WELL.

AND IT'S, I I'M JUST HOPING THAT WE, WE GET TO THE END AND WE, OUR MATH COMES OUT WELL, AND THAT'S, WE, WE MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS ONCE WE DO THE MATH, AS LONG AS WE CAN GO BACK AND, OF COURSE, AND, AND LOOK AND ADJUST AND, AND ABSOLUTELY.

I WILL SAY THAT'S WHY THE EXCEL SHEET'S GONNA HELP.

'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT RUNNING TALLY.

SHE'LL DO, SHE'LL DO A RUNNING, RUNNING TOTAL UP THERE.

SHE'LL DO A RUNNING UHHUH .

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND, UH, STEVEN, IF YOU COULD JUST, UH, REMIND US ON THE, UH, HOTEL FUND, WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.

IS IT 461,000 ROUGHLY? IT WAS 61 DECEMBER 4 61, SO 4 51.

OKAY.

AND, BUT WE CAN, IF, IF WE CHOOSE, WE COULD USE SOME, SOME, UH, GENERAL FUND TO SUPPORT, UH, SUPPORT WOULD BE FUNDING.

BUT THAT, AND UH, THIS IS JUST THE 15%, I MEAN, IT'S CORRECT RELATED.

SO WE DO HAVE A CEILING ON THIS.

YEAH.

I DON'T, WE, I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE, HAVE WE? WE DID.

NO, I DIDN'T THINK SO.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, SO NEXT, ARE YOU OKAY WITH 10 ON THAT? UH, I'M SORRY.

YES.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO, SO WE'RE GONNA DO 10 RIGHT NOW FOR THE ACCOLADE AND, AND WE GET DONE, SINCE WE'VE GOT THIS HARD CEILING, CAN WE JUST KINDA LOOK AT IT? YEAH, YEAH, OF COURSE.

IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE'LL, OKAY.

HOPEFULLY WHAT DO WE NEED? YEAH, NEXT ONE.

UM, I'M JUST GONNA GO ON WHAT WE'VE GOT ON OUR, ON OUR BIG, BIG BLUE SHEET HERE, UH, FULL DANCE CIRCLE.

SO THEY DIDN'T PRESENT, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE ON THE FIRST NIGHT, BUT FULL DANCE CIRCLE.

AND SO,

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UM, IS, DOES BRUCE MAYOR, DO YOU CARE TO SHARE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? YEAH, I, I LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

YOU KNOW, IT, UM, BEFORE I, BEFORE I GET TOO DEEP INTO THAT, SARAH, COULD YOU, COULD YOU TELL ME, HELP ME DEFINE WHAT A TOWN CURATED EVENT IS.

IS THIS, IS ANY OF THIS A TOWN CURATED EVENT? THESE ARE ALL OUTSIDE.

SO THE TOWN CURATED ARE THINGS THAT YOU ALL DREAM UP AND PUT TOGETHER AND CREATE AND CORRECT.

THAT IS ABBY'S TEAM, UH, LEADING FORWARD.

IT'S ALL THE HOLIDAY AT THE ADDISON.

ALL OF THOSE EVENTS WERE AT TOWN CURATED.

THE FIRST FIRST PRESENTATION.

UM, WE HAD SLIDES ON WHAT MAKES UP THAT $76,000.

SO WE CAN PULL THOSE UP IF YOU WANT.

YEAH, THAT'LL BE VERY HELPFUL.

OKAY.

WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.

THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING I WANNA POINT OUT TO ALONG YOUR QUESTION IS, UM, MM-HMM.

SO ON THE TOWN CURE, LIKE ONE OF THE LITTLE ITEMS ON THE TOWN CURATOR EVENT INCLUDED, UH, PLANO ORCHESTRA.

AND SO THAT IS, THAT IS TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM, FROM, I'M SORRY, PLANO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA.

SO THAT'S TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM WHAT PLANO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA IS REQUESTING FOR THEIR GRANT FUNDING.

THAT'S JUST NOT OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

SO MY THOUGHTS ON DANCE FESTIVAL, I LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SHE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, WON THE PRIZE FOR ENTHUSIASM, UH, DURING THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M REALLY ON BOARD FOR THE TOWN PAYING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COST OF ANY YEAH.

OUTSIDE GROUP COMING IN.

RIGHT.

I COULDN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND WHAT SHE WAS THE FESTIVAL IDEA.

I CAN WRAP MY HEAD AROUND DOING PERFORMANCES ON THE STAGE, BUT COMING IN AND TRYING TO PRESENT A FESTIVAL, IT'S LIKE I SAID, THAT NIGHT, THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT SHOULD GO THROUGH ABBY AS A FESTIVAL.

I, I'D BE ALL FOR A DANCE FESTIVAL.

MM-HMM.

IF, IF WE COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING, LIKE I JUST COULDN'T, I COULDN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS YEAH.

TRYING TO, SHE WAS USING FESTIVAL IN A, IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN WE USED FESTIVAL.

OKAY.

I MEAN, REALLY, AND NICOLE CAN PROBABLY GIVE SOME MORE INFORMATION, BUT THIS IS REALLY JUST A DANCE EVENT.

IT'S A TWO DAY EVENT.

TWO DAY EVENT.

IT'S A TWO DAY DANCE EVENT WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME IN, THEY'RE GONNA LEARN, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE PERFORMANCES, THEY'RE GONNA GO OUT TO OUR RESTAURANTS AND EAT.

I, AND SHE DID KEPT USING, SHE KEPT USING THE WORD FESTIVAL.

YEAH.

UM, AND IT PROBABLY IS IN THE WAY THAT SHE THINKS OF IT, NOT IN THE WAY THAT WE THINK OF IT.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS NOT LIKE, THAT WAS PART OF THE FUZZ I HAD IN MY HEAD.

YEAH.

AND I, I KEPT SEEING THAT SHE HAD TWO PERFORMANCES THERE, THERE WERE TWO DATES AND IT SEEMED LIKE THOSE WERE IN 26 THAT SHE HAD DATES COMING.

BUT I'M, I'M LIKE YOU, I DON'T MIND DANCE.

AND I LIKED HER ENTHUSIASM, BUT I'M NOT ON BOARD WITH A LOT FOR THAT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

YEAH.

FOR ME, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH US FUNDING THE WHOLE THING.

CORRECT.

AND I ASSUME THAT PEOPLE WILL PAY TO ENTER AND PARTICIPATE AND ATTEND AND, WELL, SHE GAVE CLASSES, SHE TALKED ABOUT TUITION FROM PEOPLE IN THE CLASS MM-HMM .

THAT, THAT WOULD BE COMING IN.

UH, I, AND THERE AGAIN, IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF IN KIND THAT WE COULD DO THAT THEY NEED THE STUDIO FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS, WE COULD DO IT.

UM, I'D PROBABLY BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

AND, AND, AND AT THIS STAGE, I WOULD PROBABLY RATHER JUST LEAVE THAT AS A, AS AN AS, AS A BLANK FOR NOW AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING LEFT AT THE END.

UH, WHICH I'M DOUBTFUL THAT THERE WILL BE.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND THAT'S, BUT, BUT THE INKIND MAKES SENSE TO ME, BUT YEAH, I JUST, I I, I'M KIND OF LIKE, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT WELL ENOUGH TO WANT TO YEAH.

JUMP A HUNDRED PERCENT INTO FUNDING THEIR EVENT.

YEAH.

I, I, YEAH, I, I'M, I'M WITH THE GROUP, WITH THE COMMITTEE.

I, I GOT EXCITED WHEN SHE SAID WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BRING ALL THESE PEOPLE AND STAY IN THE HOTELS.

AND WHEN I TRIED TO ASK HER HOW MUCH SHE, SHE DIDN'T, SHE COULDN'T QUITE ANSWER THAT.

YEAH.

AND I GUESS I, I'M FEEL BAD I PUT HER ON THE SPOT.

MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE SUBMITTED THAT QUESTION EARLIER.

BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, I WAS HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME WRAPPING MY BRAIN, SO IF WE'RE GOOD WITH A COMMITTEE, WE JUST PUT ZERO.

CERTAINLY WELCOME THEM TO POUND .

YEAH, FOR SURE.

IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH SOME TYPE OF CREATIVE GIFT IN KIND OR SOMETHING, UM, WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOVE TO ENTERTAIN THAT, RIGHT? YEAH.

EITHER ADVERTISING OR YEAH.

USE THE FACILITY WE CERTAINLY HELP PROMOTE AND, RIGHT.

YEAH.

DO ALL THAT.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT, SO, UM, SO WE'VE GOT FULL DANCE CIRCLE AT, UH, POSSIBLY GIFT IN KIND, UM, ARRANGEMENT IN THE FUTURE.

UM, NEXT I'VE GOT JUNIOR PLAYERS.

MARY GOT ANY, ANY THOUGHTS? I'VE GOT SOME IF YOU WANT ME TO JUMP IN RIGHT AHEAD.

YEAH, I, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I I LIKE THIS, UH, THIS FINDING NEMO AND, AND THIS REACH OF ABOUT 500 TO 1200 PEOPLE COMING IN, UM, SIX TO EIGHT GRADE STUDENTS.

I, I

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JUST, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA BRING IN, UH, A GOOD LITTLE DRAW.

AND SO, UM, UH, WHAT DID THEY ASK FOR? IS THAT 39,000? 3,500? THAT'S A, THAT'S A LOT.

THAT'S A LOT.

MM-HMM.

UM, I, I HAD, UM, I, I'M GONNA PUT IT, I REALLY LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

UM, I FIND APPEAL TO IT, BUT, UH, WHERE I, WHERE I HAD IT AT WAS, UH, 1,500 FOR GRANT FUNDING.

AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S A, A, A BIG DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT THEY ASKED FOR, BUT, UH, DID WE FUND THEM LAST YEAR? NO.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I'M, I'M AT 1500 FOR THIS GROUP.

WHERE'D YOU COME UP WITH THAT? 1,500? UM, I JUST BACKED INTO IT BY, UH, A NUMBER OF, UH, OF, UH, UH, PERFORMANCES.

AND HOW MANY, UM, AND THE REACH THAT THEY MIGHT GET, WAS THIS MOSTLY A LOCAL TYPE DRAW THING OR WERE THEY TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE COMING IN FROM ALL OVER? ONE, ONE PRODUCTION, SIX PERFORMANCES, UH, SIXTH THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE STUDENTS.

YEAH.

SO THE, THE, IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS A LOCAL, UH, YEAH, I THINK IT MORE, I HAD IT AS REGIONAL, NOT, I MEAN, LOCAL TO OUR AREA, NOT JUST LOCAL TO OUTSIDE ADDISON.

ALSO, I GUESS WHAT I, WHAT I'M GETTING AT, THERE MAY NOT BE A WHOLE LOT OF HOTEL ROOMS BOOKED THROUGH THIS.

IT, IT'S MORE LOCAL PEOPLE COMING IN TO WATCH THE EVENTS.

PROBABLY GET SOME PEOPLE IN OUR RESTAURANTS EATING, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA GET A LOT OF, THERE'LL BE A FEW HOTELS, BUT IT'S NOT A SELLOUT NIGHT.

YEAH, IT IS.

IT IS PROBABLY NOT A BIG, UH, HOTEL DRAW, BUT, UM, RESTAURANT WISE, IT MIGHT BE FIGURE PROBABLY PUT SIX PERFORMANCES, COUPLE HUNDRED, RIGHT? OR NO, THERE'D BE SOME PEOPLE 1200 PEOPLE COMING IN.

ARE, ARE WE, DO WE KNOW, IS THERE CONFLICTS ON THESE DATES? DO, DO WE, DO WE HAVE THE SPACE AVAILABLE FOR ALL? IF, IF THAT'S HYPOTHETICALLY THAT'S OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE.

I GET IT.

WE DON'T SCHEDULE.

OKAY.

I KNOW WE DON'T SCHEDULE, BUT IF, OKAY.

I WOULD HOPE THAT WE'D HAVE TROUBLE GETTING 'EM ALL IN.

I, I'D LIKE TO, LIKE TO MARLON, I, I'M IN THE SAME CATEGORY YOU ARE ON THIS ONE.

I'M, I, I THINK 39 IS A HUGE ASK FOR THIS.

I DON'T KNOW REALLY.

I NEVER REALLY GOT A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT MONEY WOULD BE UTILIZED.

SO, UH, I COULD EITHER GO WITH WE WISH THEM WELL AND IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF IN KIND, UH, WE COULD GIVE THEM, THEY'RE AGAIN, AN ADVERTISEMENT OR SOMETHING, I'D BE WILLING TO HELP 'EM AS MUCH AS WE COULD.

OR 1500 IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY TO, IF, IF THAT WOULD HELP 'EM RENT THE THEATER, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.

IT'S NOT.

THAT'D BE MORE INCLINED TO DO AND KIND ON THAT TOO.

YEAH.

UM, SO ARE YOU SAYING 1500 AND IN KIND, OR ARE YOU SAYING IN KIND ONLY? I, I JUST DON'T THINK 1500 HELPS 'EM MUCH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IF, TO ME, IF YOU'RE GONNA DO 1500, NOTHING IS VERY SIMILAR.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT HELPS.

NO.

AND AT WHAT POINT ARE THEY GONNA HAVE TO HAVE FUNDING BEFORE THEY'LL EVEN DO THIS EVENT? WHEN, WHEN WOULD WE KNOW THAT THEY WOULD EVEN ACCEPT THIS TO COME IN? AND IF, IF WE GIVE THEM 1500 OR 10,000 PICK A NUMBER AND THAT WASN'T ENOUGH FOR THEM TO DO SOMETHING, IS OUR MONEY JUST GONE IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY CAN'T COME IN HERE, OR AT SOME POINT DO THEY SAY, WELL, WE APPRECIATE THE OFFER, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO LET US DO THE EVENT? WELL, YEAH, I THINK WE WOULD, THIS COMMITTEE, WE'D MAKE THE, THIS COMMITTEE WOULD MAKE OUR DECISIONS, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN COUNCIL WOULD, WOULD, UH, WOULD, WOULD DECIDE ON THAT AT A COUNCIL MEETING.

AND WE WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT UNTIL LATER.

KINDA LIKE THE CLASSICS.

SO THE CLASSICS FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THEY CHOSE LAST YEAR WE, WE MADE ALL THAT DECISION MAKING AND, AND THEN, SO THAT WAS OFFERED TO THE CLASSICS AND THEY SAID, HEY, THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR US BECAUSE OF THE REASONS THEY SHARED.

AND THEN THEY, THEY WENT ON WITH THEIR PERFORMANCES.

SO WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS GONNA GONNA PLAY OUT.

WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR DECISIONS BASED ON THE, THE INFORMATION WE HAVE AT HAND.

SO SARAH, HOW DOES THE TIMING OF THAT WORK? SO SAY WE PROVED, APPROVED A GRANT FOR A GROUP, AND THEN TURNS OUT THEY COULDN'T, COULDN'T PULL IT TOGETHER, OR WE COULDN'T GET 'EM WORK WORKED IN ON THE SCHEDULE.

HOW DOES THE TIMING OF THEM, UH, RECEIVING THAT GRANT FUNDING, HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? SO WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE COUNCIL BUDGET WORKSHOP IS WE NOTIFY THE ORGANIZATIONS OF THE POTENTIAL AWARD.

UM, AT THAT TIME, WE'RE GONNA SAY, WE'RE GONNA WORK ON AGREEMENTS WITH YOU.

THESE AGREEMENTS WILL COME FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.

HERE'S WHAT WE'RE INCLUDING IN THE AGREEMENT

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BASED ON YOUR APP.

WE ACTUALLY ATTACHED THE APPLICATION, BUT WE WRITE IN THE NUMBER OF EVENTS AND PERFORMANCES AS WELL.

SO THAT'S THAT DISCUSSION TIME.

IF THERE'S LESS OF AWARD THAT THEY EXPECTED, DO THEY WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AGREEMENT OR NOT? BUT WE'RE WORKING OUT ALL THOSE DETAILS BEFORE THE AGREEMENT COMES BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.

THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

AND AS WELL AS WE WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY DATE CONFLICTS AND CHALLENGES WITH THE CALENDAR THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION, THAT SOMETIMES THE ASK JUST PRECLUDES THE GIFT BECAUSE IT'S SO, IT'S SO, SO LARGE OF AN ASK THAT YOU, YOU, YOU WANT TO GIVE LESS, BUT THAT'S ALMOST LIKE AN INSULT.

SO, BUT, BUT I, I, MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT MANY OF THEM WILL ASK FOR MORE THAN THEY THINK THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA GET.

I I HAVE ZERO, WOULDN'T YOU? I ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEN WE HAVE SOME INCREDIBLY, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

YES.

SOMETIMES YOU PRICE YOURSELF OUTTA THE MARKET TOO.

YES.

CORRECT.

CORRECT.

UM, 1500 IS WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING.

YES.

WOULD YOU CONSIDER 2,500? IS THAT STILL NOT WORTH EVEN TRYING TO DO? I'M OPEN-MINDED, MARYANNE.

I MEAN, IF IT HELPS 'EM WITH THE, WITH THE RENTAL, I MEAN, DOES THAT MAKE, IF, IF THEY'RE RENTING FOR 200 BUCKS OR 120, UH, OR UNLESS THEY'RE GONNA BE IN THE MAIN, ARE THEY, YOU THINK IT'LL BE IN THE MAIN SPACE? WE KNOW WHERE THEY'RE FOR JUNIOR PLAYERS, IT SAYS HERE THAT THEY'RE, THEY HAVE A PERFORMANCE, THEY HAVE A PERFORMANCE IN THE MAIN STAGE AND THE STUDIO.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE GONNA BE, IT JUST SAYS SIX.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA DO THREE IN THE MAIN STAGE AND THREE IN THE STUDIO, OR ONE ON THE MAIN STAGE AND ONE OR FIVE IN THE STUDIO.

SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD, IT WOULD PROBABLY HELP WITH THEIR, THEIR RENTAL, BUT NOT THEIR PRODUCTION COSTS, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY THE, THE LARGER AMOUNT.

BUT THEY'RE, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE A PRETTY SIZABLE OPERATION APPARENTLY WITH, IF THIS 40,000 IS ONLY 3.8% OF THEIR, UH, ANNUAL REVENUES.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

I'D BE GOOD WITH, WITH 1500 AND THAT, THAT HELPS 'EM, THAT'S ALMOST LIKE AN IN KIND FOR PAYING, PAYING FOR THE THEATER.

I, I, I COULD EITHER DO IT IN KIND AND, AND GIVE 'EM THE THEATER OR GIVE 'EM 15 AND THEY PAY THEIR FEES.

SO THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

1500 FOR, UH, JUNIOR PLAYERS.

ALRIGHT.

NEXT WE'VE GOT OUTCRY THEATER AND THEY'VE ASKED FOR, UH, 20,000 IN LAST YEAR.

WE, UH, I THINK IT WAS 10,000 IS WHAT WE, UH, GRANTED.

AMIR, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS, UM, HERE TO SHARE PRETTY SIMILAR NUMBER OF PERFORMANCES FROM LAST YEAR? I'D BE FINE WITH DOING THE SAME AS WE DID LAST YEAR.

YEAH, I AM TOO.

I'D SAY, UH, WE, WE WERE VERY, UH, UH, NICOLE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR GROUP DID TO GET A GET THIS SUMMER, THIS SUMMER, UH, PRODUCTION THAT THEY DO THIS YEAR, BUT WHATEVER YOU DID WAS OUTSTANDING.

WE, WE WANT TO, WELL, ANYTIME WE CAN GRAB THAT SUMMER PRODUCTION, WE, WE WANT IT, IT, IT, UM, IT WAS GREAT.

AND SO THIS YEAR, THIS, THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO PLANO TO DO THAT.

THEY MOVE AROUND.

PLANO GIVES 'EM A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY.

UM, I, I I, I USED TO BE THE LIAISON AT ONE TIME FOR THIS ORGANIZATION.

I LOVE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

UM, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA LET 'EM KNOW THAT VELVET TACO IS IN DALLAS.

IT'S NOT IN ADDISON.

SO IF, IF THE CITY OF DALLAS IS GONNA OFFER 'EM SOME GRANT MONEY, MAYBE THEY CAN, MAYBE THEY CAN GO EITHER VELVET TACO.

BUT WHEN THEY'RE DOING PRODUCTIONS HERE, I I HOPE WE COULD GET 'EM TO OUR ADDISON, TO OUR ADDISON RESTAURANT.

SO, UM, I I'M GONNA MAKE A SUGGESTION.

I I, I SUGGEST WE GIVE THEM $10,000, UH, GRANT FUNDING.

BUT I WOULD LOVE TO, UH, COMMUNICATE TO THEM SOMEHOW IN THE FUTURE GOING FORWARD, THAT, THAT, UM, WE WOULD LOVE TO DO MORE IF THEY COULD COMMIT TO, TO, TO HAVING THE SUMMER PRODUCTION IN ADDISON.

I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR.

I KNOW PLANO WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT, BUT WE WOULD, WE WOULD TOO.

SO, SO I'M, I'M GOOD WITH $10,000 AND, UH, AND THE ONLY OTHER THING IS THE VELVET TACO THING AND ANYTHING THAT THEY, SO, SO THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE THE, UH, THEY'RE THE CONCESSIONAIRE.

IS THAT CORRECT? NICOLE? THEY'RE, ARE THEY SELLING THE TICKETS? SORRY? EVERY GROUP SELLS THEIR OWN TICKETS.

WE DO NOT SELL TICKETS.

RIGHT.

SO OUTCRY THEATER SELLS THEIR OWN TICKETS.

WE SELL THEIR OWN TICKETS, BUT ALL CONCESSIONS GOES THROUGH WATER TOWER.

UH, OKAY.

I I MAY BE USING THE WRONG, THE WRONG WORDING.

SO ON THE TICKET SALES, ANY, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING.

I'VE, I'VE GONE TO THEIR WEBSITE AND IT'S NICE AND YOU, YOU CAN BUY YOUR TICKETS THERE.

UM, ANY,

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ANYTHING THAT, THAT WE CAN DO TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO PUT SOMETHING, UH, RESTAURANT WISE, UM, AS PART OF THAT, IF WE, IF WE CAN, IF THEY CAN DO THAT, WOULD WOULD, YOU KNOW, REALLY HOPEFULLY BE BENEFICIAL IF, IF THEY COULD DO THAT.

I KNOW THAT THEY PROMOTE, THEY'RE VERY, THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT PROMOTING LAZY DOG AND, AND, UM, UH, A COUPLE OTHER RESTAURANTS.

AND SO, UH, ANY, ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN THAT REGARD I THINK WOULD BE, WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

MAYOR, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER THOUGHTS ON NO, I, ON OUTCRY THEATER, I TOLD YOU I'M GOOD WITH 10,000.

YOU'RE GOOD WITH 10,000.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL DO 10,000 FOR OUTCRY THEATER.

THEIR ATTENDANCE IS FAIRLY GOOD AT THEIR PERFORMANCES.

MM-HMM .

SO WE WILL GET SOME PEOPLE IN THE RESTAURANTS AND YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IN THE STUDIO, SO IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S NOT HUGE, BUT THERE'LL BE SOME, THERE'LL BE SOME FOLKS.

I MEAN, YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM 50 TO 82 PER PER EVENT IN THE STUDIO.

SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A BIG CROWD, BUT, BUT THERE'LL BE, THERE'LL BE SOME FOLKS THAT'LL COME IN AND GO TO ANTONIO'S OR SOMEPLACE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, NEXT IS PLANO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA.

AND UH, LAST YEAR WE APPROVED $10,000, OR THAT COMMITTEE APPROVED $10,000.

AND THIS YEAR I THINK THEY'RE, UH, OFFERING 9,500 HUNDRED LESS.

BUT, UH, 9,500 FOR THE, FOR THE REQUEST.

MAYOR, I'M TOTALLY GOOD WITH THAT.

9,500 WITH THEIR REQUEST.

UM, I HAD THEM AT, AT, UH, AT 5,000 IS WHERE I IT'S JUST ONE PERFORMANCE.

IS IT NOT? IT'S TWO.

I'VE GOT IT AT TWO PRODUCTIONS.

MAYBE 400 FOR TOTAL.

AT 10.

OH NO, THAT WAS LAST YEAR.

IT'S ONE PRODUCTION.

ONE PRODUCTION.

ONE PRODUCTION.

YEAH.

SO NICOLE, HOW MANY, UM, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE, UM, MIGHT ATTEND THE ONE PRODUCTION? I KNOW FOR THE ONE THAT WE DID, UH, THEY DO THE ORCHESTRA PETTING ZOO.

THEY HAD ABOUT A HUNDRED PEOPLE THERE, UM, FOR THAT PERFORMANCE.

AND IT WAS THEIR CHAMBER.

SO IT WASN'T THE FULL ORCHESTRA.

UH, WE EXPECTING A FULL ORCHESTRA.

WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR THEIR FULL ORCHESTRA.

WHAT I'M SAYING, WE DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR THE FULL ORCHESTRA.

YEAH.

IT WOULD COST MORE THAN 9,500 BUCKS.

.

SO ONE, ONE PRODUCTION.

ANY, ANY GUESS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE MIGHT MIGHT ATTEND? ABOUT A HUNDRED.

OH, ABOUT A HUNDRED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ADDISON.

RESIDENTS, YOU THINK? OH, I, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW.

I WOULD HAVE TO DO A ZIP CODE SWEEP ON THEIR TICKETING TO FIND OUT HOW MANY HAVE COME, BUT THEY HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN THAT COME.

WELL, AND, AND HONESTLY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION A LOT, SAM, MANY ADDISON FOLKS.

I, I, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE PEOPLE COME FROM IN, FROM THE OUTSIDE.

'CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT GO AND SPEND MONEY AT THE RESTAURANTS.

COMPLETELY.

YEAH.

I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE REPRESENTING ADDISON RESIDENTS AND I, I'M, I'M HOPING WE CAN HAVE SOME ADDISON RESIDENTS ENJOY SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE IMPROVING AS WELL.

AND A LOT OF TIMES, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.

YEAH.

SOMETIMES IT'S AN AWARENESS THING THAT'S GOING AT HOME OUTSIDE PEOPLE EATING IN OUR RESTAURANTS.

YEP.

I GET THAT.

THAT THAT'S, BUT I'M JUST, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS AND DOING THAT.

I, MARLON I'M, I'M AT THE 5,000 MARK ON THAT TOO.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOOD WITH 5,000.

WELL, YOU GUYS WANNA DO FIVE? I'M THE ODD MAN OUT, SO LOOKS LIKE IT'S FIVE.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S STILL LIKE TO HAVE DONE 9,500, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, NEXT UP IS THE CLASSICS THEATER PROJECT AND, UM, WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER WITH RANDY'S QUESTION.

DO YOU ALL HERE TO LOOK AT, UH, QUESTION NUMBER 10 ON OUR Q AND A IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

I DON'T HAVE MINE.

UM, YOU, HERE YOU GO.

THEY PRINTED OUT, THEY GAVE YOU A COPY OF IT OVER THERE.

OH, THEY DID? YEP.

SO STEVEN ON SO, SO STEVEN WAS HELPFUL ON THIS ONE.

UM, I ASKED THE QUESTION, CAN CAN TOWN STAFF PLEASE LOOK INTO THE FEASIBILITY OF WAIVING AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT THAT MIGHT COST 15,000 AND ALLOW FOR ANOTHER FINANCIAL REQUIREMENT THAT WOULD SAVE AN AN NPO, THE CLASSICS THEATER POPUP, POSSIBLY UNNECESSARY COST.

AND SO I MAY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE, LITTLE OFF WITH MY QUESTION BECAUSE, UH, STEVEN, FROM WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME, THEY'RE, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT TO START WITH, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

ALRIGHT, SO WITH WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE AT RIGHT NOW, WHAT, UH, ARE YOU SAYING THAT, THAT THEY, THEY COULD SEND US, UH, UH, SOME FINANCIAL STATEMENTS BY THEIR ACCOUNTANT, OUR CFO RATHER THAN SOME INDEPENDENT AUDIT? IS THAT WHERE WE'RE AT WITH CORRECT.

AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD ALSO GET WHATEVER THEY FILED WITH

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THE IRS AS WELL.

OKAY.

AND SO THAT $15,000 FIGURE, HOPEFULLY WE CAN COMMUNICATE STAFF, SOMEBODY CAN COMMUNICATE THAT TO THEM TO HELP THEM WITH THAT.

UM, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT SOME IDEAS ABOUT THIS ONE, BUT I'D, I'D LOVE TO HEAR ANY OTHER, I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC ID ON IT.

I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOURS.

YEAH, I'D LOVE TO JUMP IN HERE.

SO, UM, I, FIRST OF ALL, I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON THEIR, ON THEIR 15,000.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE ASKING FOR 50,000 IN, IN CASH AND 15,000 IN KIND.

NICOLE, IS THAT, DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT 15,000 IN KIND IS, UH, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OR WHAT THEY PROBABLY JUST RENTAL.

YEAH, I, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S JUST RENTAL AND THE MAJORITY OF THEIR PERFORMANCES ARE IN THE, THE STONE COTTAGE.

THERE'S NOT MUCH ELSE IN KIND WE COULD OFFER THEM.

RIGHT.

BESIDES RENTAL.

JUST RENTAL, YEAH.

SO THAT WOULD BE RENTAL.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UM, YOU KNOW, MY IDEA IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I SAW THAT 15, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING.

I ALMOST SAW THAT 15,000 IS THAT THEY WERE ASKING US TO WAIVE THE AUDIT FEE .

YEAH, WELL, I DID TOO.

SO, I MEAN THAT'S, I SAW THAT ENCOUNTERS COMING IN, BUT YEAH, I, I'VE GOT, I JUST, I WANT TO, NUMBER ONE, I WANNA COMMUNICATE TO 'EM THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THIS, THIS 10 TO 20, $15,000 EXPENSE THAT THEY THINK THEY DO.

I FELT BAD FOR 'EM THAT THEY, THAT THEY, UH, THOUGHT THAT.

DO YOU THINK THEY'RE PRETTY CLEAR ON THAT NOW? I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT THEY'RE AS CLEAR AS AS THEY CAN BE, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE TRY TO GET THEM THERE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO TRY TO GET THEM THERE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I, I, I REALLY LIKE, I REALLY LOVE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND, UM, WHERE, WHERE I, WHERE I LANDED WITH, UH, THEIR ATTENDANCE PROJECTIONS OF 2050 IS THEIR, UH, WHAT I'M PROJECTING FOR THEIR ATTENDANCE IS, SO I LANDED AT $40,000, UH, CONTRIBUTION AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THIS, THIS $15,000 BURDEN.

HOW DO WE THINK INCLUDING THE 15,000 IN KIND? UH, NO, I'M JUST 15,000.

$15,000, OR I'M SORRY, $40,000 TOTAL IN CASH CONTRA YES.

NO, NO ADDITIONAL IN KIND.

CORRECT.

CORRECT.

CORRECT.

THEIR AND THEIR PERFORMANCES WILL BE IN THE STONE COTTAGE.

MM-HMM .

AND THE STONE COTTAGE IS A HUNDRED TWENTY FIFTY, FORTY FIVE FORTY FIVE MAXIMUM.

MM-HMM .

SELLOUT NIGHT WOULD BE 45.

YES.

HOW MANY PERFORMANCES THEY GONNA DO THIS? THEY SAY 52,000.

BOY, I LIKE THEIR, I LIKE THEIR, UH, ANTICIPATION OF A FULL HOUSE EVERY NIGHT.

WELL, THEY FILL UP THE SPACE PRETTY WELL, DON'T THEY? AND THEY DO A NICE JOB.

I'VE, I HAVE SEEN THEIRS AND I WATCH IT.

UM, I WANT, I WANNA JUMP IN HERE REAL QUICK.

WISH YOU WOULD ON THIS IN KIND.

I'M, I'M NOT THINKING I'M, I'M NOT OKAY WITH, WITH 15,000 OF INKIND FOR RENT, BUT IF, IF THEY COME TO US WITH SOMETHING, UM, MARKETING EXPOSURE BY USING THE BELTLINE, UH, DIGITAL, UH, BANNER, SOMETHING, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE THAT WE CAN HELP THEM IN KIND, I'M, I'M DEFINITELY OPEN TO THAT.

I JUST DON'T, WE DO THAT ANYWAY.

OR ANYTIME ANY, ANYONE THAT RENTS THE FACILITY AND THEY HAVE MARKETING, WE PROVIDE THEM MARKETING ON OUR, ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIAS AND ALSO ON OUR BELTLINE SIGNS.

SO THAT'S FREE OF CHARGE.

AND I'M, AND I'M USING THAT JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.

YEAH.

AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER IN KIND THERE WOULD BE, BESIDES RENTAL.

THERE'S NOT.

AND AM I MISSING SOMETHING IN THEIR APPLICATION WHERE THEY DETAIL THE IN KIND? YEAH, THEY DEFINE THEY.

OKAY.

THEY DID DEFINE, OKAY.

SO I'M JUST, I'M SORRY.

I'M AT 40,000, UH, DOLLARS, UH, GRANT FUNDING IS WHAT I'M SUGGESTING, AND NO, IN KIND.

CORRECT.

DO YOU RECALL WHAT THEY APPLIED FOR LAST YEAR? 65 ISH.

50.

OKAY.

WHAT I'D BE OKAY WITH, WHAT DO WE OFFER? 10? YEAH.

I'D BE OKAY WITH DOING THE 40, BUT I I, I'M OKAY WITH ALSO DOING THE 15 IN KIND AS WELL.

OKAY.

BECAUSE THEY, BECAUSE THEY DO, THEY, THEY BRING CROWD AND THEY DO GOOD, GOOD QUALITY, UH, PERFORMANCES.

YEAH.

IF I COULD JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT AS Y'ALL CONSIDER INKIND, CERTAINLY IT'S A LEGITIMATE CONVERSATION, BUT YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SPREADSHEET, WE HAVE THAT RENTAL INCOME UP TOP, THE 120, WHICH PLAYS INTO HOW MUCH WE HAVE TOTAL.

YEP.

AND SO TAKE CLASSICS FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'RE ONLY DOING, THEY'RE A COUPLE MORE SHOWS, SO WE'RE ALREADY GETTING THAT RENTAL INCOME

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FROM THEM.

SO IT'S FINE TO DO IN KIND, BUT JUST REALIZE THAT IS REAL DOLLARS.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

THAT WE WOULDN'T BE GETTING THERE.

SO I WOULD ALWAYS HAVE THE PREFERENCE OF JUST DOING CASH.

OKAY.

BECAUSE IT'S THEN YOU DON'T HAVE THIS WORKFLOW, IT'S EASIER, IT'S MORE, YOU JUST SEE HOW MUCH YOU'RE GIVING 'EM.

SO IF I WOULD SAY, LIKE NOW, I WOULD JUST SAY GIVE THEM THE 15,000 IN CASH AND STILL HAVE THE RENTAL INCOME.

IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER AS EVERY TIME WE DO WATER TOWER, WE HAVE TO DO THAT SEPARATE CHART WHERE WE'RE DOING ALL THE FUN.

SO YEAH.

THAT YOU CAN, WE CAN DO IN KIND.

JUST THROW THAT THOUGHT OUT THERE.

NO, THAT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH.

YEP.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THE, THESE ARE MORE APPEALING TO ME BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING RENT BACK.

THE, THE TOWN IS BASICALLY GETTING SOME MONEY BACK FROM THIS.

UM, MARLON, YOU CAN, I WOULD DO THE 40 WITH NO IN KIND AS LONG AS WE GOT OUR RENT OFF THE THEATER IS WHERE I WOULD BE ON THAT.

I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GONNA DO 40,000 FOR THE CLASSICS THEATER PROJECT.

MM-HMM .

ALL RIGHT.

UM, NEXT UP WE'VE GOT WATER TOWER THEATER.

IF YOU, OKAY.

IF YOU JUST A SUGGESTION, I, YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO TALENT CURATED FIRST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH.

OKAY.

GOOD IDEA.

UM, AND WE CAN BRING THAT BACK UP IF YOU'D LIKE AND SLIDES.

OKAY.

COULD WE BRING UP THOSE, UH, SLIDES THAT ABBY, ABBY SHARED OR ABBY PRESENTED WITH? WHICH ONE? WE, THE TOWN CURATED EVENTS.

I THINK THERE WERE TWO SLIDES.

THERE YOU GO.

IS THERE ONE AFTER THAT? AFTER, UH, OKAY, CAN WE GO BACK? OH YEAH, THAT'S, SO, SO BASICALLY SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT A DANCE DANCE CAMP.

ART CAMP AND THESE 15,000, SO 5,000 PER CAMP ACTIVITY.

$15,000 TOTAL.

THAT'S SO 15, THAT WOULD BE, THAT PAGE REPRESENTS 15,000 OF THE ROUGHLY 76,000, CORRECT? MM-HMM .

DANCE CAMP.

ART CAMP.

ALRIGHT.

AND, UH, 15 FOR SIX PER ON THE LOAN? YEAH.

15,000.

AND THEN, AND THEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT ARTIST IN THE ATILL.

TA FPA.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN CAN YOU, UH, HOW ABOUT THE PREVIOUS SLIDE WITH THE CHRISTMAS TREE? THERE YOU GO.

THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, NICOLE, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS WHEN I WAS CONFUSED.

WHAT IS, WHAT IS, UH, SHE'S GOT THESE ATTENDANCE, LIKE ATTENDANCE NUMBERS.

LETTER TO SANTA IS LETTERS TO SANTA.

IS IS, IS THAT A PRODUCTION OR IS THAT JUST THE, THE KIDS COMING IN AND AND SHARING THEIR LETTER? NO, THAT IS, SAY PRODUCTION.

THAT IS A PRODUCTION.

MM-HMM .

SO EVERY ONE OF THESE, THESE, THIS LIST HERE, THOSE ARE ALL PRODUCTIONS AND THOSE ARE THE ATTENDANCE THAT MM-HMM .

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S OKAY.

UM, ANYBODY HAVE ANY, SO THAT, THAT TOTAL RIGHT THERE? YES.

THIS IS INCLUDED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

AND THAT TOTAL IS THE 39,200.

YEAH.

SO CAN WE GO, THAT'S THE BASELINE, RIGHT? THERE YOU GO.

CAN WE GO BACK TO CHRISTMAS TIME? OKAY.

UM, SO TOTAL GUEST, AND THAT'S FOR EACH STAGE.

I'M AND THAT WAS LAST YEAR? YES.

MM-HMM.

AND, AND WAS THE ANTICIPATION TO DO THE SAME LINEUP AGAIN THIS YEAR OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR BIGGER? BIGGER.

MM-HMM .

BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE HAVE FAIRLY SMALL ATTENDANCE.

WAS THAT WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING OR, WELL, FOR BURLESQUE BEING IN THE, IN THE STUDIO, YES.

UM, MAIN STAGE, OUR STRINGS AND DING SHOW, WE ACTUALLY WILL BRING THEM BACK.

THAT WAS REALLY POPULAR.

UM, AND PLANO SYMPHONY WAS A SMALLER, IT WAS A SMALLER ATTENDED SHOW.

UH, POLAR EXPRESS, THAT WAS JUST OUR MOVIE NIGHT.

BUT WE ARE DOING A MOVIE CHRISTMAS, LIKE FESTIVAL OF MOVIES, UM, IN THE STUDIO THIS YEAR.

AND, UH, WE ALSO ARE PLANNING A, A COUPLE OF SPECIAL JAZZY CHRISTMAS PERFORMANCES AS WELL.

SO, UM, WE'RE ANTICIPATING MORE ATTENDANCE THIS TIME.

WHAT ABOUT LIKE THE, THE, LIKE THE HOLIDAYS, SIP AND PAINT AND STORY TIME? UH, ARE THOSE JUST, THOSE ARE GONNA THE, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA DO STORY TIME WITH MRS. CLAUS BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE DOING OUR LETTERS TO SANTA, UM, OR NOT LETTERS TO SANTA.

UM, THE, WE HAVE ANOTHER PERFORMANCE THAT WE'RE BRINGING INTO THE STONE COTTAGE.

WE'LL BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

SO, BUT YOU'RE, UM, BUT THOSE ARE THOSE SMALLER ONES, LIKE THE, THE SIP AND PAINT, IS THAT, IS THAT LIKE A STANDALONE MM-HMM .

THING THAT GOES ON AND MM-HMM .

IS THAT KINDA WHAT WE EXPECTED FOR THAT, OR IS THAT KINDA CAPACITY? IT'S PROBABLY EXPECTED BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT SIP AND PAINT IS, AND IT'S USUALLY YOU DO THOSE IN THE SPRINGTIME AND

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NOT ONLY IN THE WINTER.

YEAH.

UM, BUT WE ARE PLANNING SOME DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES FOR, UH, THE MAIN STAGE THIS YEAR.

OKAY.

AND WHO PUTS THESE PERFORMANCES ON WHOEVER WE, WE CAN BOOK AND WHO CAN ASK MM-HMM .

SO I MAKE CONTACTS WITH PEOPLE THAT I CAN GET THEM TO COME HERE AND PERFORM TODAY.

SITTING HERE TODAY, WE WOULD NOT KNOW WHO THE PERFORMERS WERE OR THE TROOPS WERE THAT WOULD BE COMING IN TO DO THESE.

I CAN GIVE YOU A SNEAK PEEK OF STUFF I'M WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.

I HAVE A MICHAEL BULE TRIBUTE THAT'S COMING IN ON THE FOURTH.

I HAVE THE NIGHT FARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS, WHICH IS A WEEK LONG ACTIVITY OF FAIR OF, UM, SALES AND CHRISTMAS TRINKETS AND PEOPLE COMING IN AND BUYING THINGS TO BENEFIT A, UM, I THINK IT'S, UH, HOPE CHILD.

AND, UH, I HAVE THE JAZZ BAND COMING IN TO DO A JAZZY CHRISTMAS PERFORMANCE.

I ALSO HAVE STRINGS AND DINGS COMING BACK.

SO WE'RE DOING THE, UH, THE BELL CHOIR AND THEIR, UM, CHORUS IS COMING BACK AS WELL.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A FESTIVAL OF MOVIES FOR CHRISTMAS FOR THE WEEK.

SO THIS MONEY WOULD BE USED TO PAY THESE PERFORMERS MM-HMM .

TO PUT THESE ON MM-HMM .

AND BUYING LICENSES FOR LIKE, THE MOVIES PAYING FOR, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, MICHAEL BULE.

WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM TO COME, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR FOOD AS REQUIRED BY SOME.

UM, SO YES.

IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN THE CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL OR WHATEVER WE CALL IT? MM-HMM .

HOLIDAY IN THE PARK.

HOLIDAY IN THE PARK WHERE THE KIDS SELL OUT.

I PREFER THAT.

WHERE THE KIDS ARE MAKING THE, THE THINGS WE'RE DOING THAT TELLING THEM AND YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

THAT'LL STILL HAPPEN TOO.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCOMPANY EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S HAPPENING.

THIS KIND, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DECEMBER TYPE ALL THROUGH.

THEY'RE ALL DECEMBER, RIGHT? OKAY.

MM-HMM .

ALL THOSE ARE WHAT WE JUST DID THIS LAST DECEMBER.

YEAH.

AND THE THING I LIKE ABOUT THIS IS THAT IT, FOR THE WHOLE MONTH, THERE'S ALMOST ALWAYS SOMETHING GOING ON, YOU KNOW, EVERY FEW DAYS IS, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S A SMALL THING, IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN, CAN RIGHT.

CAN GO TO AND IT'S A FAMILY, FAMILY FRIENDLY THING.

MM-HMM .

AND, UH, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S PART OF OUR GOAL WAS BY REVISING HOW WE'RE DOING THE, THE ADDISON WAS TO MAKE PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THE ADDISON.

WELL, WE, LET'S FIND SOMETHING TO DO, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE ADDISON.

BECAUSE IT USED TO NEVER, THAT WASN'T EVEN A, A THOUGHT FOR MOST FOLKS.

NOW YOU HAD THREE, YOU HAD THREE SLIDES THERE, SO YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE PERFORMANCES THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN.

BUT THEN I SAW CAMPS AND I SAW, YEAH.

THIS, THIS IS BASICALLY, SO WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT ONE.

THAT'S JUST ONE THIRD.

THAT'S JUST ONE THIRD.

SO THAT'S DECEMBER AT THE ADDISON.

OKAY.

AND THEN, SO IF WE, I JUST WANT TO GO, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THAT SLIDE, SO LET'S GO TO THE 23.

OKAY.

AND SO THIS IS ANOTHER, LIKE, ANOTHER THIRD.

THIS IS LIKE THE CAMPS.

IF YOU THINK OF IT LIKE THE, THE CAMPS GROUP, THIS WOULD BE NEW.

NEW.

AND YES.

THIS, THE, THE VISION IS TO BRING MORE PEOPLE, UH, FROM COMMUNITY BACK INTO THE THEATER AND TO THE ADDISON TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO HERE.

UM, AND HAVING A VARIETY OF CAMPS.

THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO DON'T DO THEATER, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO ART.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO DANCE.

AND SO HAVING A VARIETY OF CAMPS THAT PEOPLE CAN BRING THEIR CHILDREN TO IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING.

AND IS THERE TUITION FROM THESE CAMPERS IN THIS? YES.

THEY WOULD BE, YES.

THEY WOULD BE PAYING FOR TUITION SO THAT WE CAN ALSO PAY FOR THE INSTRUCTORS TO BE HERE AND DO THOSE THINGS.

IT'S A SPECIALIZED ACTIVITY.

SO THE 15 FIVE PER CAMP.

MM-HMM .

THAT WOULD NOT PAY, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR THE INSTRUCTORS AND, AND TO COVER THE FEES.

SO THERE WOULD BE, THERE WOULD BE TUITION TO, TO TRY TO COVER IT AS WELL.

MM-HMM .

TRY TO GET REVENUE OUT OF THIS AS WELL.

OKAY.

AND THIS IS AT MULTIPLE CAMPS.

IT'S NOT JUST ONE CAMP.

LIKE ACCOLADE THIS YEAR IS DOING OUR THEATER CAMP NEXT WEEK.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE HOW THAT'S GONNA TURN OUT.

WHAT IS THE RESPONSE TO THAT? UH, VERY HIGH .

VERY, VERY HIGH.

I HAVE TO, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE NUMBERS YET, BUT, UH, THEY'RE, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS. SO YEAH.

THEY'RE, THEY WERE PROJECTING 1200 TO 1600 IN ATTENDANCE.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO HEAR TO JUSTIFY WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING.

'CAUSE WE HAVE CAMPS.

WE HAVE CAMPS ALL OVER THE TOWN.

WE, WE'VE GOT CAMPS AT THE ATHLETIC CENTER, WE'VE GOT CAMPS FOR ALL THIS.

BUT IF THIS IS A SPECIFIC NICHE AND WE'RE DRAWING 1500, AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ACCOLADE.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

THIS IS NOT, THIS IS DIFFERENT.

THIS IS, THIS IS DIFFERENT.

OH, OKAY.

I MEAN, IT'S A CAMP.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A THEATER CAMP AND WE, YOU KNOW, ACCOLADES DOING A THEATER CAMP.

SO

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ARE THEY IN COMPETITION WITH ONE ANOTHER? YOU KNOW, ACCOLADES GOT WHAT ONE HOW MANY DAYS? SO, I MEAN, IS THERE, IS THERE DEMAND ENOUGH FOR, FOR TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO BE PUTTING ON CAMPS? THEY'RE DOING THE SAME THING.

AND CAN I SAY THAT THE ARTS ARE NOT LIKE BASEBALL AND FOOTBALL.

THEY DON'T COMPETE IN THAT SAME WAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT GENRES AND DIFFERENT, UM, LEVELS.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, THE DANCE CAMP COULD BE ADULTS, IT CAN ALSO BE ADOLESCENTS.

IT CAN ALSO BE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE IN KINDERGARTEN AGE.

IT'S A VARIETY.

WE'RE TRYING TO BRING OUT PEOPLE THAT ARE ALSO IN OUR APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT ARE AROUND US WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE ARTS AND EVERYONE ELSE.

SO IT'S A DIFFERENT VARIETY.

COMPLETELY.

I, I THINK ACCOLADES, LIKE ONE WEEK WORTH OF THEATER CAMP.

IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? YEAH.

CAN WE LOOK, CAN WE LOOK AT THAT NEXT SLIDE THERE? THAT, THAT THIRD, THIS IS THE THIRD GROUP.

AND WHERE IS THAT? WHO WOULD BE DOING THE SHAKESPEARE IN THE PARK WAS THE MAIN QUESTION I HAD.

OH, WE ARE, WE ARE WORKING WITH BROOKHAVEN.

I HAVE CONTACTED BROOKHAVEN BECAUSE WE DID SHAKESPEARE IN THE PARK WHEN I WAS IN FORT WORTH.

IT'S A VERY POPULAR EVENT AND SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS NEEDED.

AND SO WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET STUFF TOGETHER TO DO A FESTIVAL OUT HERE, A SHAKESPEARE CAN WE PUT ON A GOOD PRODUCTION IN OUR PARK? WE COULD IN OUR PARK.

I'M FOR SURE.

YEAH.

WE, WE USED TO DO SHAKESPEARE IN THE PARK.

MM-HMM .

RIGHT? YEAH.

AND THAT'S, WE USED TO GO TO SHAKESPEARE IN THE PARK, IN THE BIG CITY TO THE SOUTH OF US IN ONE OF THEIR PARKS.

EAST DALLAS.

YEAH.

ENJOYED THAT A LOT.

MM-HMM .

BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE A LARGE PRODUCTION WITH LARGE STAGES AND, AND THINGS.

DO WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF DOING THAT, OR WOULD THE TROOP BRING THAT IN WITH THEM? THE, THE TROOP COULD BRING IT IN.

WE'RE ACTUALLY NEGOTIATING THAT ON HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

BECAUSE WITH SHAKESPEARE IN THE PARK, BROOKHAVEN IS ALLOWING THAT TO BE USED AS A WAY TO GIVE COLLEGE STUDENTS CREDIT FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO HERE.

SO IT'S, IT'S AND WHERE WOULD THIS BE? WHERE DO YOU ENVISION THIS BE? RIGHT IN FRONT OF THAT LAWN.

OKAY.

STONE COTTAGE WOULD ACT AS YOUR TICKET OFFICE.

OKAY.

SO TO SPEAK.

OR CONCESSIONS.

SO HERE NOT, AND HERE.

YEAH, HERE IN THIS LAWN AREA, BECAUSE IT'S CONSTRICTED, IT'S NICE.

AND THEN ALSO TO SET UP A STAGE WHERE THE BRICK STARTS, WE'VE ACTUALLY MAPPED IT OUT ON HOW THAT WOULD LOOK, BECAUSE WE COULD ALSO USE THE, THE WATER TOWER, AS WE SAY, THE THEATER FIRST AND SECOND LEVELS IF WE WANTED TO DO STAGING THERE.

AND WE CAN HIDE THE FOUNTAIN AND OR MAKE IT A FEATURE.

SO WE'VE, WE'VE WORKED ON MAPPING IT OUT AND SEEING HOW IT WOULD WORK.

THE ONLY THING THAT IS A PROBLEM IS THE AIRPORT.

WE CAN'T SILENCE PLANES.

SO IS THAT ONE PRODUCTION OR IS THAT MULTIPLE? FOR SHAKESPEARE? IT'D BE MULTIPLE.

IT WOULD BE MULTIPLE FOR SHAKESPEARE PRODUCTIONS.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON DOING FOR SHAKESPEARE IN THE PARK.

SHAKESPEARE.

OKAY.

WE'RE TRYING WORK THAT OUT TO WHERE WE CAN ALSO DO VIP AND CHARGE AND DO ALL THE THINGS.

AND YOU PREEMPTED WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK.

THIS KIND OF EXCITES ME.

MM-HMM .

WE CAN GET ADULTS IN TOWN EXCITED ABOUT, IF WE CAN PUT ON A GOOD PRODUCTION, DEFINITELY.

I, I FULLY SUPPORT YOU IN, IN THAT EFFORT.

NICOLE, CAN YOU TALK TO THAT SECOND BULLET BULLET POINT? WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT KINDA LOOKS LIKE , THE, IN THE ATELIER? YES.

WELL, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU GUYS SET UP THE ATELIER, THE COURTYARD BACK THERE, WE WERE WANTING TO HAVE SINGER SONGWRITERS HAPPENING, PERFORMING THERE.

MY GOAL IS TO HAVE THIS CAMPUS COMPLETELY OCCUPIED ALL THROUGH ALL WHAT I CALL THE ATELIER AS A FOURTH VENUE.

SO YOU LITERALLY HAVE THE STONE COTTAGE, THE STUDIO, THE MAIN STAGE, AND THE ATELIER GOING ON ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

BUT THERE'S, YOU'VE GOT CONCESSIONS HAPPENING ALL THE TIME.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT LOVE THE SINGER, SONGWRITERS, NOT LOUD.

MM-HMM .

BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ACOUSTICAL AND WE CAN ALWAYS DO A LITTLE PLUG IN A SMALL AMPLIFIER, BUT IT WOULD BE JUST A DIFFERENT THING FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND ENJOY.

AND IT WOULD BE OUTSIDE.

SO THAT'S ALSO A POSSIBLE YEAH, WE ALREADY DO THAT.

WELL, I, I'M NOT FANCY ENOUGH TO SAY ATELIER.

YEAH.

I'M NOT REMEMBER LIKE DURING TASTE ADDISON OR THOSE LAST, LAST TWO TASTE.

ADDISONS UHHUH WE HAD WHERE WE HAD THE, I FORGET WHAT WE CALLED THE BACTERIA, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS SO COOL.

WE HAD BACTERIA, THE TABLES, WE HAD A LITTLE BAND ON A STAGE.

MM-HMM.

SO I THINK SOME OF THAT THOUGHT PROCESS IS TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT MORE NIGHTS DOESN'T COST TOO MUCH MONEY, BUT WE CAN GET PEOPLE OUT HERE.

AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT, YEAH.

AND PEOPLE, PEOPLE, WHEN I WENT, I WENT TO WILDFLOWER FESTIVAL THIS YEAR, AND THEY HAD THAT IN INSIDE THE, UH, THE, UH, EISMAN CENTER.

OH, YEAH.

DOWN IN THAT SECOND SMALLER, YEAH.

THAT SMALLER VENUE AND YEAH.

GOOD TURNOUT PEOPLE.

LIKE, THAT'S JUST VERY RELAXING.

AND, UH, PE PEOPLE DO LIKE THAT.

I, I DEFINITELY ENJOY IT.

WOULD WE REPLACE THE OTHER THAT WE DO

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IN THE PARK? SINGER SONGWRITER.

SO THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE DIFF THAT'S MORE OF A PARKS EVENT BECAUSE PEOPLE BRING THEIR DOGS OUT.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, IT'S A DIFFERENT, I WOULD SAY IT'S KIND OF A DIFFERENT VIBE AND A DIFFERENT CROWD WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND THAT'S WHAT I, IT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET MM-HMM .

WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

UH, I, WE'D LOVE OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES LIKE THIS.

WILL PEOPLE BE ABLE TO, WILL THERE BE CONCESSIONS? YES.

IF MM-HMM .

YEAH.

THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

WILL IT BE A SOMEONE CAN BRING THEIR OWN COOLER, I WOULD THINK FOR THIS ONE, WE WOULD WANT TO DO CONCESSIONS WITHOUT, AND THAT'S FINE, AS LONG AS THE CITY CAN BENEFIT.

RIGHT.

IS THIS THE REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? BEER, WINE, SODA, WATER.

DO WE HAVE THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO, TO CONCESSION BEER AND WINE IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH.

AND THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND OF USING THE TASTE IDEA, BECAUSE WE HAD A BAR OUT THERE AND WE CAN DO, UM, A LOT OF FUN THINGS BACK THERE.

YEAH.

I LIKE THAT IDEA.

YEAH.

I LIKE ALL ALL OF THIS.

DO WE, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? I'M PRETTY CLEAR.

I'M CLEAR NOW.

I'M ON, I'M ON BOARD.

NO, I AM, I DID HAVE QUESTIONS BEFORE.

YOU'RE YOU'RE GOOD WITH ALL? YEAH, I'M ON BOARD FOR ALL OF IT.

YEAH.

I, I'M ON BOARD FOR THE FIRST AND THE THIRD.

I'M THE CAMPS.

I'M NOT, UM, THE CAMPS.

I'M NOT AS EXCITED ABOUT THE CAMPS.

I'M, I MIGHT BE MORE EXCITED ABOUT THE CAMPS.

WHAT IS THE TOTAL PACKAGE WITH THE CAMPS? 76,005.

YES.

IS THAT RIGHT? SEVEN 76,700.

I WILL SAY, AS YOU'RE DOING THAT, AND JUST TO, AND THIS IS TO KIND OF, TO COMPLIMENT NICOLE AS WELL.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE SPENDING ON ALL THE LIT NIGHTS, AND IF YOU GO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THE NUMBER OF FOLKS WE HAVE THAT ARE COMING TO THESE SHOWS, IT'S REALLY A GREAT DEAL.

AND IF YOU COMPARE IT TO KIND OF SOME OF THE OTHER ENTITIES PER DOLLAR, PER, UM, PERSON COMING OUT.

AND IT WAS, IF YOU GO BACK TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE STUDY WE DID A FEW YEARS AGO OF REALLY TRYING TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF TOWN CURATOR PROGRAMS, YOU CAN JUST SEE THAT THERE, HOW MUCH IT'S INCREASING.

SO MM-HMM .

INDIVIDUAL, YOU OBVIOUSLY YEP.

COUNCIL COULD DECIDE NOT TO DO AN INDIVIDUAL PROGRAM HERE AND THERE, BUT I DO WANT TO JUST APPLY NICOLE AND HER TEAM FOR THE WORK THEY'VE DONE TO INCREASE.

YEAH.

I MEAN, WE REALLY ACCOMPLISHED AND EXCEEDED I THINK, WHAT WE MIGHT'VE EXPECTED BY NOW.

SO, UM, AND I, I JUST LOVE ALL OF 'EM, AND I THINK THE VALUE IS REALLY GREAT.

TO YOUR POINT THAT FOR THAT, THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF BANKS BUCK OUTTA, THERE'S NO QUESTION WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEP.

THAT'S WHY I'M GOOD.

GOOD WITH ALL OF THEM.

RANDY.

MARLON, WHEN, WHEN I WAS LOOKING THROUGH EVERYTHING AND DOING MY STUDYING, IT WAS THE CAMPS THAT WERE KIND OF THROWING ME, BECAUSE WE HAVE CAMPS HERE.

WE HAVE CAMPS THERE.

UH, THE WAY YOU EXPLAINED IT WHILE AGO IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I ENVISIONED IS CAMPS.

I THINK, UM, AND MAYBE THE CAMPS THAT I'M THINKING OF ARE MORE ALONG THE LINES OF ATHLETIC TYPE STUFF.

AND, AND THIS COULD BE A, A, AN OUTLET FOR SOMEONE IN THE ARTS.

I GET THAT.

UM, AND HOW MUCH, WHAT IS IT? UM, THE CAMPS ARE, ARE, WHAT'S THE ASK FOR THE CAMPS? 15.

YEAH.

15.

ONE FIVE, 15,000, OH, 15 FOR THE, THAT'S, THAT'S 5,000 ACCOUNTS.

BASICALLY.

15 GETS US ALL THREE.

YEP.

AND THERE IS SOME POSSIBLE REVENUE RETURN ON THAT.

PROBABLY NOT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT'S, AND THEN, BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY WHAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT TOO, IS THIS IS GONNA BE BRINGING PEOPLE IN FROM THE METROPLEX.

UM, HAVING FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE DANCED AND DONE BALLET, THEY WOULD GO ALL OVER THE METROPLEX FOR DIFFERENT THINGS.

WHERE OUR CAMPS AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB, THOSE ARE ONLY FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

MM-HMM .

SO THIS IS GOING TO BRING PEOPLE IN.

YEAH.

AND CAN I MAKE ONE MORE THING? UM, YOU SOLD ME THE INSTRUCTION STOP WHILE YOU'RE, STOP WITH YES.

STOP WITH, YES.

STOP SELLING.

THE INSTRUCTORS THAT ARE COMING IN ARE COMING FROM, FROM DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE METROPLEX.

AND SO THEY'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT ADDISON, WHICH IS WHAT I REALLY WANT THEM TO BE DOING, IS TALKING ABOUT WHAT ADDISON IS DOING.

OKAY.

SO TIM, GOOD WITH THIS, BECAUSE I HAVE SO MUCH FAITH IN YOU.

YOU, SO YOU HAVE, WE'RE GONNA THAT FULL AMOUNT? YES.

YES.

WE'RE GONNA PLUG IN, UH, 76,700.

AND I THINK THIS IS THE PART WHERE STEVEN, STEVEN JUMPS IN AND TELLS US WHAT, WHAT REMAINS.

WELL, YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT THERE.

THREE 18.

318 THOU, I, I SEE.

ALRIGHT.

UM, AND SO NOW WE'VE GOT, UM,

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WATER TOWER THEATER, CORRECT? MM-HMM .

WATER TOWER THEATER.

I GOT A, I GOT A BUNCH OF IDEAS ON THIS, BUT, UM, GO RIGHT AHEAD.

UM, SO THIS IS JUST NOT THIS YEAR, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS MUL MULTI-YEARS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROVIDING HIGH, HIGH DOLLAR VALUE ON THESE, UM, ON THESE PRODUCTIONS THAT THEY PUT ON.

AND I THINK THE NUMBERS ARE THIS, I THINK, I THINK THEIR AVERAGE TICKET PRICE IS $38.

THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE AVERAGE PERSON PAYS FOR THE TICKET.

AND, UM, AND, AND I BELIEVE THE NUMBERS EQUATE TO PAST, PAST GRANT FUNDING OF LAST YEAR EQUATES TO, UH, A SUBSIDY ON THE TOWNS PART OF, UH, I THINK IT'S $42 AND, AND, UH, 50 A PIECE SOMETHING CENTS.

UM, AND SO WE JUST SEEM LIKE WE GET INTO THIS SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE ASKING FOR MAYBE MORE THAN WE CAN GIVE.

UM, AND SO WE, WE, WE FUND WHAT WE CAN FUND, AND THEN IT PUTS THEM IN A LITTLE BIT OF A BIND AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T REALLY AFFORD TO PRODUCE EVERYTHING THEY INITIALLY PUT FORTH.

AND WE JUST SEEM LIKE WE GET, GET, GET CAUGHT UP IN THIS, IN THIS SITUATION, UH, THIS FUNDING SITUATION.

AND ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD, KNOWING, KNOWING WHERE THEY'RE AT WITH WHAT THEY CHARGE AND WHAT, WHAT WE, OUR SUBSIDY TOWARDS, TOWARDS THE, A SPECIFIC TO THEIR FUNDING IS, UM, THE THOUGHT OF A A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR MATCH.

SO WHATEVER, WHATEVER THEIR, THEIR SALES ARE, UM, WE, WE WOULD MATCH IT DOLLAR PER DOLLAR, AND IT WOULD GIVE THEM, I THINK THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING, DOING MORE.

I KNOW THEY ARE.

I'M, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT JC SCHUSTER.

I LIKE WHAT HE'S BRINGING.

I LIKE WHAT HE'S, HE'S THINKING ABOUT, HE WANTS EVERYTHING WE WERE STARTING TO KINDA LOSE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF PRODUCTION, UH, WAS GOING TO PLANO.

UH, HE ALLUDED TO THAT A LITTLE BIT OVER, OVER THE VARIOUS COMMUNICATIONS THAT HAVE COME, COME UP IN THIS COMMITTEE, UM, DURING THE TIME OF THIS COMMITTEE.

SO I LIKE HIS THOUGHT OF, HEY, LET'S, EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING, LET'S DO IT IN ADDISON.

AND, UM, AND SO I, I THINK IF WE PUT THEM IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN, UH, MAKE WHATEVER ADJUSTMENTS THEY NEED, UM, I THINK THAT'S A WIN-WIN FOR BOTH.

SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS, IS, UM, A DOLLAR PER DOLLAR FUNDING, UM, WITH, WITH THE $40,000, UH, GIFT IN KIND THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, FOR, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OFFICER OFFICE, UH, GIFT IN KIND RENTAL AND FURNITURE RENTAL AND SOME PRODUCTION RENT.

SO I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THEIR 40,000 IN KIND LIKE WE HAVE BEEN DOING, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO LOVE TO SEE US WORK SOMETHING OUT WHERE, WHERE, UM, IT'S A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR MATCH.

SO I, SO I GET THAT, THAT THE CONCEPT OF THAT, AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

UM, THEORETICALLY, BUT PRACTICALLY, I WONDER HOW THEY MAKE THAT WORK BECAUSE THEY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY UPFRONT WHEN THEY HAVE TO DO ALL THE LICENSING FEES AND STUFF.

YES.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE HAD TO PAY THEM EARLY ON IN THE SEASON SO THEY CAN GET EVERYTHING IN PLACE.

AND, AND IF YOU'RE PAYING 'EM DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR ON A SHOW, THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN APRIL.

GREAT.

GREAT QUESTION.

GREAT POINT.

SO HERE, HERE'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS, UH, LAST YEAR WE, WE PAID 'EM $340,000 IN CASH.

SO, SO TO GET, TO GET THIS PRO, UH, PROGRAM STARTED, WE WOULD PAY 'EM HALF.

SO LAST YEAR WE PAID 'EM HALF FOR THEIR FIRST PAYMENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? FOR THE FIRST SIX MONTHS.

SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS WE DO THE SAME THING AS LAST YEAR.

WE PAY THEM HALF, AND THEN THAT, THAT GETS, AND THEN, AND THEN WE, AND THEN WHEN WE GET INTO Q3 AND Q4, WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE THOSE NEEDED ADJUSTMENTS, UM, DEPENDING ON, ON WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

BUT HAVEN'T WE ALSO, IN THE PAST WITH THEM, PAID THEIR SECOND HALF EARLIER THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS FOR THE SAME REASONS? WELL, THE, THE WAY IT'S BEEN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS THEY'VE GOTTEN HALF, BASICALLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, OCTOBER, SO 170,000, AND THEN THE REMAINING 10 MONTHS OF THE YEAR, THEY GET 17,000 EACH MONTH.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH.

UH, SO THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

THEY, THEY GET THEIR INITIAL PAYMENT GENERALLY A LITTLE BIT QUICKER THAN THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

MM-HMM .

UH, DO AS WELL.

SO THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS I THINK ARE QUARTERLY, UM, OR TWICE A YEAR THEY GET ONE, THEY GET, UH, AN INITIAL 50%.

AND THEN I THINK IN THE MID TO LATE SPRING, THEY GET THE SECOND, UH, PAYMENT IN MAY.

SO MAYBE HALFWAY THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR.

CORRECT.

YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WAS HAPPENING.

AND YEAH, SO, UM, YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW.

I,

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I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN MAKE THAT WORK OR NOT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW.

UM, BUT I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE IDEA OF IT.

I, I WONDER IS THAT SOMETHING THEY NEED A LONGER RUNWAY TO, TO GET PREPARED FOR THAT KIND OF SITUATION THOUGH? UM, WHEN WE MADE THE CHANGES A COUPLE YEARS AGO WITH, YOU KNOW, GOING TO THE ADDISON AND CHANGING THERE WHOLE SITUATION UP, UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT IT WAS PRETTY SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE HAVING TO MAKE THIS BIG PIVOT IN A HURRY.

I'M WONDERING IF THIS COULD BE THE SIMILAR SITUATION, IF THIS IS MAYBE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT FOR NEXT YEAR, POSSIBLY.

JUST, JUST A THOUGHT SO THAT THEY CAN BETTER PREPARE FOR IT.

BUT FINANCIALLY, YEAH, AND I'M, I, I AM VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT INITIAL PAYMENT AND, AND BECAUSE THEY, THEY, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY NEED THAT MM-HMM .

UM, AND, AND AFTER YOU BROUGHT IT UP, I WAS EVEN THINKING MAYBE 200,000, UM, FOR THEIR INITIAL PAYMENT JUST TO GET THEM, GET THEM GOING.

AND, BUT I, I DO LIKE THIS THOUGHT.

UM, I THINK, I THINK, UM, I THINK IN, I THINK INITIALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE CHANGE IF WE, IF WE GO THIS ROUTE, THIS WILL BE CHANGE.

AND I'LL HAVE LIKE ANYBODY THAT'D HAVE TO HAVE TO CONTEMPLATE AND SEE WHAT THAT WORKS, WORKS LIKE FOR THEM.

BUT I, I JUST THINK, UM, IF, IF WE CAN DO THIS, I THINK, UM, IT WORKS LONG TERM FOR BOTH OF US.

IT'S A WIN-WIN.

UM, WE KNOW THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME IN AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BUYING A, A MORE EXPENSIVE TICKET, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MORE INCLINED TO STAY AT SOME OF OUR, OUR NICER RESTAURANTS AND SPEND SOME MONEY AND STAY IN ADDISON.

SO THAT, THAT'S THE THOUGHT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK, RANDY? WHAT I THINK IS THAT THEY, THEY LIKE THE THEATER LESS THAN MANY OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE GIVE A LOT LESS MONEY TO.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN? HOW MANY NIGHTS DO THEY LIKE GIVE? WASN'T IT 46 OR? YES.

I BELIEVE LAST YEAR WAS 40 48.

48.

WW WE HAVE OTHER PRODUCTIONS THAT, LIKE THE THEATER MORE NIGHTS THAN THAT, HAVE MORE PERFORMANCES.

WE HAVE ONE THAT HAS BETTER ATTENDANCE THAT WE DON'T GIVE ANY MONEY TO.

THEY DON'T ASK ANY MONEY.

THEY PAY RENT.

I, WHO YOU TALKING ABOUT? WELL, I DON'T WANNA CALL NAMES, BUT I THINK WE KNOW OTHER PRODUCTIONS IN HERE THAT HAVE COME IN AND AND DONE IT.

I, I DON'T WANNA PUT IN OTHER TROOPS ON THE SPOT.

I THINK, I THINK OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH WATER TOWER THEATER HAS BEEN A ONE-WAY RELATIONSHIP FOR YEARS.

THAT IT, IT IS COMPLETELY ONE WAY WITH MONEY.

WE GET NOTHING OFF TICKETS.

WE GET NO RENT FROM 'EM, WE GET NO CONCESSIONS.

THEY MAKE CONCESSIONS OFF OF EVERYBODY.

WHERE, WHERE I WOULD START WITH WATER TOWER THEATER IS ZERO.

I, I, I THINK THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES COMING IN.

THEY HAVE, UM, I, I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER PRODUCTIONS I'VE SEEN IN THERE ARE JUST AS HIGH QUALITY AS THERE.

AND I HAVE ZERO CONCEPTION OF HOW THEY CAN SPEND $400,000 ON WHAT THEY DO OF, OF TAXPAYER MONEY AND MAKE IT WORTHWHILE FOR THE CITY.

I I WOULD SAY OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH WATER TOWER THEATER, IN MY OPINION, HAS RUN ITS COURSE AND WE COULD FIND ANOTHER TROOP TO COME IN.

I, I DON'T KNOW OF ANOTHER CITY OF OUR SIZE THAT SUBSIDIZES A A THEATER COMPANY OF LIKE THIS ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THIS LEVEL.

AND IT'S TIME FOR THEM, IN MY OPINION, TO GET OUT AND START TRYING TO DO SOME, SOME ON THEIR OWN RATHER THAN JUST RELY ON THE TOWN TO FUND EVERYTHING.

YEAH.

AND, AND I DON'T, THAT'S MY OPINION.

NO.

AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THOSE POINTS.

I I, I, I, I, I DO DISAGREE WITH ZERO, BUT, UH, BUT I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOUR POINTS.

UH, AND WE'VE BEEN TELLING 'EM THAT FOR YEARS THAT, THAT WE NEED, WE REALLY NEED TO SEE MORE FROM THEM.

SOMETIMES WHEN WE TELL 'EM SOMETHING FOR YEARS, WE GOTTA MEAN IT.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW.

BUT, BUT THEY NEED TO DO MORE TO, TO GENERATE THEIR OWN REVENUE.

CORRECT.

UH, GET THEIR OWN DONATIONS AND, AND, AND HONESTLY, AND WE'VE HEARD THE SAME COMMENTS FOR SINCE THE PANDEMIC THAT, UH, THAT NOBODY'S DONATING MONEY TO THE ARTS ANYMORE.

AND I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW ACCURATE THAT IS.

UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT EFFORTS THEY'RE PUTTING OUT THERE TO TRY TO TRY TO, TO TRY TO GET THOSE DONATIONS.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME BOARDS THAT YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THAT IF YOU'RE A BOARD MEMBER, THERE'S, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT.

YOU EITHER, YOU EITHER BRING IT IN OR YOU GIVE IT THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT SO THAT THE BOARD HAS A, HAS A, REALLY HAS SKIN IN THE GAME AS WELL.

AND WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD, THEY HAD THAT AND

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THAT THEY, THEY DIDN'T REALLY, UM, RE MAKE IT, MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS A REQUIREMENT, BUT IT WASN'T ENFORCED, YOU KNOW? AND SO, UM, SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S IT.

IT'S PROBABLY STILL IN THEIR, UH, BYLAWS SOMEWHERE, BUT I DON'T THINK, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A REQUIREMENT OR NOT.

BUT, BUT YEAH, WE'VE BEEN SAYING THE SAME THING FOR, FOR A WHILE.

AND, UH, AND, BUT I KNOW, BUT I ALSO KNOW HOW IMPORTANT WATER TOWER IS TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE RESIDENTS, THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT IT'S REALLY, WATER TOWER IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THEM.

DO YOU THINK THERE'S A HUNDRED? WHAT IS A LOT, WHAT IS A LOT OF RESIDENTS? I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS.

I GET IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS.

YEAH.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

I, I, I UNDERSTAND.

UH, AND WE'VE GIVEN THEM LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY MM-HMM .

AND ALL I HAVE EVER IN THE, THE PAST DIRECTOR THAT IS NO LONGER HERE, HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T SEEM VERY APPRECIATIVE WHEN YOU WOULD TALK TO HIM IN, IN A, HE'S NO LONGER HERE.

SO I UNDERSTAND.

NOR, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, NO, YOU ARE CORRECT.

YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD.

BUT WE'RE IN LIMBO WITH THAT ORGANIZATION TOO, AS TO KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA DO.

I STAND BY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK WATER TOWER THEORY FOR THE YEARS THAT THEY'VE BEEN HERE AND SAY, WE WILL FUND YOU AT A LESSER AMOUNT AND DO YOU LIKE ANY OF THE REST OF THEM? BUT I, I AM NOT WILLING TO, TO GO TO A HUGE NUMBER LIKE THAT AND, AND THE IN KIND AND LET THEM KEEP ALL THE TICKET FEES, LET THEM KEEP ALL OF THE CONCESSIONS.

I AM, I, I AM ONE THAT I'M NOT, I I WOULD, I WOULD OPPOSE LARGE FUNDING FOR THEM.

YEAH.

GOT IT.

WELL, SO I, SO I WOULD BE, COMFORTABLE PROBABLY ISN'T THE RIGHT WORD, BUT I WOULD BE WILLING TO USE THE BALANCE THAT WE HAVE LEFT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAST ONE WE HAVE, RIGHT, FOR THIS IS THAT, THAT IT'S JUST SHORT OF WHAT WE GAVE 'EM LAST YEAR.

IT'S WAY SHORT OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

I'D BE WILLING TO USE THE BALANCE FOR THAT.

STILL GIVE 'EM THE 40 IN KIND.

BUT AT SOME POINT, ALSO, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE CONCESSIONS, I THINK THE TOWN NEEDS TO TAKE OVER THE CONCESSIONS AT SOME POINT.

MAYBE NOT, MAYBE NOT THIS YEAR, BUT I THINK WE COULD DO IT AND DO IT BETTER THAN WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE, UH, THAT, THAT WE WE'RE PUTTING OUR NAME TO IT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW HOW I AM ABOUT BRANDING, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT OUR NAME TO IT, IT'S IMPORTANT.

AND, UM, IT'S JUST, I, I WOULD, I WOULD BE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN AT SOME POINT.

SO THAT'S WHERE I AM WITH IT.

WELL, WHO ARE YOU, MARTIN? YEAH, I, UM, KNOWING WHERE EVERYBODY IS, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE TO WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU JUST SPELLED OUT.

SO THAT'D BE 318,596 IN CASH, AND THEN 40,000 IN KIND, AND THAT, THAT TAKES US TO OUR CEILING.

THAT'S A ZERO.

WHY DON'T WE GO BACK AND GIVE ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE A LOT MORE MONEY THEN GENTLEMEN, WE'VE GOT, AT SOME POINT, WE'VE GOT TO STAND UP TO THAT AND SAY, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

WELL, I THINK WE JUST DID.

THERE ARE OTHER TROOPS THAT WOULD COME IN.

I THINK WE JUST DID A LITTLE BIT.

I HOPE SO.

I'M NOT WILLING, I'M NOT, I'M NOT WILLING TO PULL THE RUG OUT FROM GIRL.

HEY, I, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING I DO.

WELL, IT'S BASICALLY WHAT I'M SAYING.

YOU, THEY'D BE OUT, THEY'D BE OUT OF BUSINESS ON THAT.

I, I THINK THEY'RE, I THINK THEY'RE PROVIDING THE MOST PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTIONS THAT WE HAVE.

THEY, THEY BRING A LOT OF VALUE.

SO THEY BRING A LOT VALUE THAT YOU SEE THE VALUE OR NOT.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL A I CAN I ASK ONE QUE CLARIFYING QUESTION REGARDING WATER TOWER? SO, UM, IN A SCENARIO WHERE WE GO BACK AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S 318, HERE'S A PROPOSAL.

IF THEY SAY, WELL, WE CAN ONLY, DO WE HAVE TO DO A LESSER AMOUNT OF SHOWS THAT WE HAD IN OUR APPLICATION? ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE GIVING YOU THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR WHAT YOU SAID YOU WOULD DO? YEAH, I'M, I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS, WITH THEIR, WITH THE PROPO, WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY PROPOSED.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

CAN WE MOVE ON TO THE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND? ALRIGHT.

SO THE FIRST ONE WE'VE GOT IS, UH, METROCREST CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

AND, UH, MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ASK OR SHARE ON THAT ONE? I'VE GOT SOME, I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE DOING, UH, SAME AS WE DID LAST YEAR.

I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD, UH, RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

AND, UH, AND I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE I THINK THE, THE IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT WAS ANSWERED DURING OUR LAST MEETING, OR WHENEVER, WHENEVER THEY PRESENTED, WAS, WHAT ARE THE OTHER, UH, METRO CREST CITIES, UH, CONTRIBUTING, UM, YOU KNOW, ZERO.

AND SO, SO

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I, FOR ME, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE THE ONLY ONES, YOU KNOW, ONLY CITY THAT'S, THAT'S PROVIDING ANY FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO THEM, THEY NEED TO BE HERE PHYSICALLY.

THEIR EVENTS NEED TO BE HERE.

UH, AND I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY REPRESENT THE THREE CITIES, BUT THOSE, THE OTHER CITIES ARE NOT PARTICIPATING FINANCIALLY.

AND IT, AND IT STILL, IT KIND OF IRKS ME A LITTLE BIT EVERY TIME WE GO TO THE, TO THE CAR, TO THE, UH, THE CARROLLTON, UH, WHATEVER THAT HOTEL IS, THE LONG HE PARKWAY OVER THERE, THAT, UM, AND, AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, 300 PERSON EVENTS OVER THERE.

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY A, THEY'LL HAVE AN EVENT ON THAT.

WHAT'S THAT? I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE ON THAT.

YEAH.

AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE AN EVENT AT A DALLAS HOTEL AT THE, AT THE, UH, THE, WHAT'S IT CALL IT? THE A THE GALLERIA ONE BY THE GALLERIA.

AND I GUESS THAT THEY'RE A CHAMBER MEMBER.

HOWEVER, I, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S, THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF IT.

IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE, IF WE GOT A LOT OF SKIN IN THE GAME AND, AND WE GOT ALL THE SKIN IN THE GAME MUNICIPAL WISE, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE MORE SAY IN WHAT, IN WHAT, AND WHERE THEY DO IT.

MAYBE NOT SO MUCH WHAT, BUT WHERE BOTH I IN YOUR COMMENTS.

I, I AGREE WITH WHAT AND WHERE.

RIGHT? I MEAN, IF, WELL, I DON'T WANNA DRIVE THEIR PROGRAM, THEY CAN DO THEIR OWN PROGRAM BECAUSE WE GOT ENOUGH TO DO ON OUR OWN.

WELL, UM, THE SCOPE OF THE WORK, THE SCOPE OF WORK IS, IS THERE YES.

LIKE I'M NOT ASKING TO MODIFY.

IT'S ALREADY THERE.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

THEY DO A LOT.

THEY DO A LOT OF STUFF.

THERE'S DOLLAR AMOUNTS.

MM-HMM .

RIGHT.

BUT, BUT, UM, SO ON THE, ON THE QUESTION AND ANSWER, I ASKED A, I ASKED A QUESTION.

I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, THIS GRANT FUNDING, HOW MUCH IS INCLUDED THERE AND IS SPONSORSHIP FOR TABLES AND, AND, UM, SEEDS TO EAT AND SO FORTH, IS THAT, HOW DOES THAT WORK? AND SO THAT WAS SHARED.

AND SO, UM, SO THAT'S ON OUR, OUR Q AND A ON PAGE SEVEN AND EIGHT BASICALLY.

UM, AND SO ON THESE SPONSORSHIPS, LIKE THESE TABLE SPONSORSHIPS AND EVENT SPONSORSHIPS ARE, ARE, UH, UH, ARE FARMER'S BRANCH IN CARROLLTON? ARE THEY, I ASSUME I SEE THEIR LOGOS.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PAYING THESE SAME FEES WE ARE.

RIGHT? FOR, FOR BRAND SPONSORSHIPS AND MAYBE TABLES AND, AND FOOD.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I GUESS I WOULD SAY, I HAVE TO ASSUME.

SO I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY'RE NOT, I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR THEIR SEATS WHEN THEY GO TO THE EVENTS.

AND WHEN YOU SEE THEIR NAME AS A SPONSOR, THEY'RE PAYING SOMETHING.

THEY GOTTA PAYING.

THEY'RE JUST NOT GIVING, PAYING THE SAME IS WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE PAYING ON THESE ITEMIZED LIST.

UM, I'VE GOTTA, I'VE GOTTA ASSUME THE SAME.

SO HELP ME ON THE, UH, ON THE ONES WITH ASTERISK.

SO THIS IS IN OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

WE'VE, WE'VE PAID THESE, AND I'M JUST GONNA CALL 'EM EVENT, EVENT, UH, SPONSORSHIPS, BUT THAT WAS THIS YEAR.

BUT NEXT YEAR THEY'RE FOLDED INTO, INTO THE, SOME OF 'EM, INTO THE, INTO THE SCOPE OF WORK.

WE ACTUALLY FOLDED 'EM IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

YEAR WAS THIS YEAR ALSO.

THAT WAS THE CHANGE WE MADE GOING INTO FY 26.

SO FFY 26, WE FOLDED THOSE INTO THE GRANT AMOUNT.

OKAY.

I THINK, DIDN'T WE BUMP IT UP A LITTLE BIT TO, TO INCLUDE THAT INTO ONE OF THE YEAH, CORRECT.

UM, SO WE, WE PROVIDED LAST FISCAL YEAR ON THE Q AND A, AND THEN YEAR TO DATE, THIS FISCAL YEAR.

AND THE ONES IN ASTERISK WERE LAST FISCAL YEAR.

OKAY.

AND SO, UM, HELP ME IF, IF SOMEBODY COULD, WHAT, WHAT'S THE TOTAL WE'RE GONNA PAY PROJECTED ABOVE, ABOVE THE GRANT FUNDING AMOUNT? WE'VE SPENT 2,800 SO FAR.

WE HAVE, I THINK LEADERSHIP, METROCREST LEADERSHIP GRADUATION.

THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE MORE EVENTS COMING UP.

SO I'D SAY ANYWHERE FROM FIVE SUMMIT THAT'S INCLUDED, 5,000 SEEMS 5,000.

5,000.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I, YOU KNOW, I, I'M, I, I SHARED A LITTLE BIT OF THIS AT THE PREVIOUS, ONE OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS, BUT I'M, I'M, WHERE THE MAYOR IS.

UM, ANY, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO WITH THE SCOPE OF WORK, UM, W WITH THE CURRENT SITUATION, RIGHT, WE'RE PROBABLY FUNDING, WE'RE PROBABLY FUNDING THEM 90% SOMETHING.

NO, IT'S ONLY 8% OF THEIR ANNUAL REVENUE.

UH, B BETWEEN THE THREE CITIES.

BETWEEN THE THREE CITIES, BETWEEN THE THREE, SOME, I'M SORRY, BETWEEN THE THREE CITIES.

MUNICIPAL FUNDING, RIGHT.

MUNICIPAL FUNDING.

WE'RE PRO.

AND DALLAS IS NOT, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE FUNDING, NO, THEY'RE NOT FUNDING ANYTHING.

BUT WE'RE, BUT WE'RE DOING STUFF AT DALLAS HOTELS BECAUSE THERE'S DALLAS MEMBERS.

SO ANY, UM,

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YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO WHERE IT'S, IT'S LOGICAL TO PUT IN THE SCOPE OF WORK, HEY, THIS IS GONNA BE AT ONE OF OUR, UH, HOTELS.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN THIS SCENARIO RIGHT NOW, I'M, I'M WHERE THE MAYOR IS WITH, WITH HAVING THESE EVENTS THAT OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY, IF WE'RE DOING SO MUCH OF THE FUNDING.

SO ANYTHING POSSIBLE TO, TO FOLD THAT INTO THE SCOPE OF WORK WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT I'D, I MEAN, WHATEVER YOU THINK.

SO I GUESS JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT, UM, THERE'S THOSE THREE MAJOR SPONSORSHIPS.

AND SO WE WOULD GO BACK AND SAY THAT OUR GRANT IS DEPENDENT ON THOSE MAJOR SPONSORSHIPS BEING OUT AT ADDISON HOTEL.

AND JUST PUT THAT, ADD THAT INTO THE AGREEMENT.

I I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU, OR AS BEST EFFORTS, OR WHAT DO WE EFFORTS, OKAY.

THE DALLAS, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING, HAVING THE, UH, I'M JUST GOING TO USE THE EXAMPLE, THE, THE, UH, LEADERSHIP METROCREST GRADUATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, I REALIZED I DON'T THINK HOTEL DAX WAS OPEN AT THAT POINT, BUT IT'S OPEN NOW.

AND SO I JUST, THE REPEAT OF THAT IS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE HAD A COUPLE EVENTS THERE.

IT IS JUST FRUSTRATING TO ME WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU REALIZE THE MUNICIPALITY FUNDING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, YEAH.

AND I DON'T HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF THEM DOING EVERYTHING IN ADDISON BECAUSE THEY HAVE MEMBERS, THE CHAMBER MEMBERS THAT ARE HOTELS AND, AND, UH, AND OTHER AND EVENT VENUES AND THINGS THAT, THAT'S WHY THEY JOIN A CHAMBER SO THAT THEY CAN GET EVENTS HELD AT THEIR, AT THEIR LOCATION.

SO I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT SOME OF THE BIGGER ONES, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE ALWAYS OUTSIDE OF ADDISON, UH, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT EVEN IN THE ROTATION ANYWHERE.

AND WE, WE NEED TO BE AT LEAST A BIG PART OF THAT ROTATION, IF NOT A MAJORITY PLAYER IN THAT ROTATION.

YEAH.

BUT MY EXPECTATION IS NOT EVERY EVENT IN ADDISON IS BEST EFFORTS, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET TO A POINT WHERE IF WE'RE GONNA STAY IN THIS ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH MUNICIPALITY FUNDING, I'D HOPE WE'D HAVE HALF, HALF OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE AT OUR HOTEL.

SO ANYTHING YOU CAN DO, UH, AND, AND IT, I KNOW IT'S, IT'S GONNA HELP US A LOT.

NOW THAT HOTEL DAX IS OPEN, IT'S A GREAT, YEAH, IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO BE.

AND THEY DID THEIR BUSINESS EXPO OVER THERE RECENTLY, WHICH WAS A, THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT, ANOTHER ONE COMING GREAT LOCATION FOR THAT OVER THERE AT THE DAX.

YEAH.

SO, YEAH, I'M, I, I'M ENSURING THAT, UM, I'M, I'M CONTENT WITH THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT THEY'VE OUTLINED AND THE AMOUNTS AND KNOWING, KNOWING THAT WE'VE GOT THESE, THESE, UM, UH, SOME OF THESE BIG EVENTS, UH, BIG COSTS WRAPPED INTO, WRAPPED INTO THE FUNDING MM-HMM .

SO MY MEMORY FROM THE PRESENTATION AS WELL IS THAT THEY WERE MOVING TO ADDISON.

THEY WOULD BE RELOCATING TO ADDISON.

I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THAT TO TAKE PLACE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

I'M WITH YOU.

AND I'M ASSUMING THAT WE ARE HELPING THEM FIND A PLACE TO, UH, LOCATE THAT AND, AND YOU DIDN'T.

YES.

CORRECT.

SO THEIR LEASE IS UP IN JANUARY.

AND SO MICHAEL, AND HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT VARIOUS LOCATIONS THAT IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE ASKING FOR SAME RENT MM-HMM .

THING OUT THERE.

YEP.

I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO, IF WE'RE 100% OF THE MUNICIPAL FUNDING, I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE THEIR FLAG PLANTED HERE.

AGREED.

YEAH.

AND ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE, I 100% AGREE THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THESE EVENTS HERE.

YEAH.

UH, AND I THINK WE NEED TO, IF, IF THEY ARE NOT, ENCOURAGE OUR HOTELS AND PLACES TO WHERE WE THINK THESE EVENTS COULD BE HELD AND ASSURE THEY ARE MEMBERS, OR ENCOURAGE THEM IF THEY'RE NOT MEMBERS TO BE MEMBERS SO THEY CAN GET IN THIS ROTATION MM-HMM .

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HELP EACH OTHER OUT IN, IN THIS REGARD.

FOR SURE.

NO, I, I AGREE.

WHAT YOU WE'RE GOOD WITH 42,000 MM-HMM .

OKAY.

IT WAS 38, THAT WAS LAST, LAST YEAR WAS 38.

UH, IN 26 WE UPPED IT TO 42.

AND THAT SORT OF ROLLED IN ALL OF THOSE OTHER SPONSORSHIPS.

AND WHERE DOES THAT FUNDING COME FROM? THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND COMES OUTTA YOUR BUDGET.

YES.

WAYNE, SPLUNK.

ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? I'M VERY GOOD WITH THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

YES.

YOU GET VALUE OUT OF THAT.

WE GET VALUE.

BUT I THINK KIND OF EVEN WHAT THE MAYOR SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER, IT'S MORE ABOUT THE VALUE THAT OUR BUSINESSES GET.

REALLY, IT'S, IT'S SORT OF A PASS THROUGH.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABLE TO ADD VALUE THAT WE SIMPLY CAN'T TOUCH.

SO IT'S MORE ABOUT SUPPORTING THE WORK THAT THEY DO FOR OUR BUSINESSES.

OKAY.

I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

AND SO, UM, THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, ECONOMIC.

WE'RE GONNA STAY HERE AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE'VE GOT WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL AND THEY'VE ASKED FOR $25,000.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

I DON'T REMEMBER HOW LONG THAT RUN WAS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA, WAYNE, HOW LONG THAT RUN WAS BEFORE DAVID? ANY IN THE RESEARCH LAST YEAR? UM, I WANNA SAY IT WAS ABOUT SEVEN TO EIGHT YEARS.

SOUNDS PROBABLY RIGHT.

UM,

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'CAUSE IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 2013 TO 2020 AROUND COVID PERIOD.

IS THAT RIGHT? 2023 WAS THE LAST YEAR.

OH, 23.

OKAY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

13.

YEAH.

AND SO, SO WE HAD THE, YOU KNOW, GOOD RELATIONS WITH THEM.

UM, BUT EVERY YEAR WE ASKED THE SAME QUESTION.

DID WE GET THE VALUE OUT OF IT? YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DID THE, WE HAD THE EVENT THAT WAS, THEY CALLED THE WORLD, UH, WORLD FEST, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT.

UH, AND I, I THOUGHT THE WORLD FEST WAS A FUN EVENT.

AND WE HAD, UH, STATIONS ALL THROUGHOUT THE, THE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.

SO YOU HAD MUSIC AND DANCE AND FOOD.

UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT EVENT AND THEN ENDED KIND OF GETTING ROLLED INTO TASTE ADDISON SOMEWHAT, DIDN'T IT? UH, SORT OF, BUT, BUT, BUT NOT, NOT THAT MUCH.

BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT EVENT AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE COULD WIN BACK AND TRY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN OR NOT, BUT, BUT I LIKE THE, THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD WHENEVER THEY PRESENTED TO US ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DOING THE LECTURE SERIES YOU TALKED ABOUT.

AND, AND BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT HAVING, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, WHEN WE'VE SEEN EVENTS WHERE THEY'LL BRING IN AN ECONOMIST OR SOMETHING AND, AND YOU GET A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR IT.

WHY, WHY SHOULDN'T WE BE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN ADDISON? BECAUSE WE HAVE BUSINESSES HERE THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE HAPPY TO SPONSOR IT AND, AND BE PART OF THAT.

AND, UM, SO, SO MAYBE THAT'S A DIFFERENT AVENUE FROM WHAT WE DID IN THE PAST WHERE WE, IT WAS HARDER FOR US TO QUANTIFY THE VALUE OF IT.

SO I THINK THAT, I THINK WHO WOULD BE OUR POINT OF CONTACT WITH THEM? UM, THEY HAD THE NEW CEO, THE LIAISON.

I KNOW WE WOULDN'T HAVE A LIAISON, BUT I'M NOT SURE WE SHOULDN'T POINT OF CONTACT, CONTACT WITH, FROM THIS TOWN TO, I'D SAY PROBABLY WAYNE.

YEAH.

HE WOULD INTERFACE.

COULD BE, COULD BE MYSELF.

AND THEN GOING BACK TO YOUR OTHER, THE HISTORY OF IT IS USED TO BE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM DEPARTMENT.

AND SO I THINK YOU'RE KIND OF CORRECT IN THAT SENSE IS THAT IT, IT KIND OF BELIEVED BLED THROUGH THERE.

SO REALLY, IT PROBABLY DEPENDS ON WHAT TYPE OF PROGRAMMING YEAH.

THAT WE'RE LOOKING FROM THERE.

'CAUSE IT, IT COULD BE MYSELF, IT COULD BE MARY, UM, COULD BE A LIAISON COUNCIL.

BUT I THINK IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO LIKE THE PROGRAMMING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING OUT OF IT, WHO WOULD, WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE THERE.

AND THEY DO HAVE SOME REALLY INTERESTING EVENTS.

I REMEMBER I WENT TO ONE OF THEIR EVENTS WHEN THEY HAD A FORMER BRITISH PRIME MINISTER THAT WAS THE KEYNOTE SPEAKER.

AND, AND, AND THAT DREW A CROWD OF, UM, UH, A LOT OF, UH, UM, STATE AND EVEN NATIONAL, UH, POLITICIANS THAT SHOWED UP FOR THAT.

AND, UH, SO THEY GET, THEY GET A CROWD THAT, BECAUSE THEY BRING IN A KIND OF ELITE LEVEL CROWD, UH, LEVEL OF SPEAKERS.

AND SO, UH, DID THEY HAVE A SCHEDULE FOR US? DID THEY HAVE A LIST OF EVENTS SPECIFIC THAT THEY WANTED TO DO? UH, NO.

I DON'T THINK THEY HAD ANYTHING THAT THEY WANTED TO DO EITHER.

BUT THEY SHOWED SOME OF WHAT THEY HAD DONE.

I, IT'S KIND OF LIKE SOMEONE COMING IN AND WANTING TO DO A PLAY.

THEY'RE GONNA DO THIS PLAY, THIS PLAY AND THIS, IT, I, I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN THEM SAID, WE'VE GOT THIS PERSON COMING IN, THIS PERSON, THIS PERSON.

KIND OF HAVE A, A SCHEDULE OF EVENTS TO WHERE WE COULD SEE WHAT THE VALUE WOULD BE IN THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND I, I THINK NOW THEY, THEY ARE BASED IN ADDISON AS WELL.

ARE THEY? DID I NOT REMEMBER THAT IN THE PRESENTATION? NO, THEY'RE BASED IN DALLAS, AREN'T THEY? CORRECT.

THEY'RE BASED IN DALLAS.

AND I CAN'T REMEMBER, I THOUGHT SHE SAID THIS LAST ONE.

UM, THEY USED DALLAS USED TO BE A MEMBER, BUT I THOUGHT SHE SAID THIS LAST TIME THAT WE WOULD BE THE ONLY CORRECT CITY IS THAT.

SO I THINK THAT GIVES US A LOT OF, UH, POSITION WHEN WE START LOOKING AT PROGRAMMING.

MM-HMM .

I THINK THEY WOULD BE VERY, UM, AMENABLE TO, HEY, WE START LOOKING AT HERE, HERE ARE THE FOLKS YOU GOT GOING.

WE COULD LOOK AT IT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT WE THINK INVESTMENT MIGHT BE COMING FROM OTHER COUNTRIES, AND KIND OF POINT THAT DIRECTION, THAT DIRECTION, ESPECIALLY WE'LL BE THE ONLY, UH, MUNICIPALITY PARTICIPATING.

YEAH.

I, I, I PERSONALLY WOULD BE, I'D BE INTERESTED IN, IN, IN REENGAGING WITH THEM, UH, ON THIS AND SEE, SEE HOW IT GOES, YOU KNOW, AND, AND GIVE IT, GIVE IT, YOU KNOW, SOME TIME MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S A COUPLE, THREE YEARS OR SOMETHING TO SEE IF THAT DEVELOPS INTO SOMETHING THAT'S OF VALUE TO US.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A GIGANTIC AMOUNT OF MONEY AND, AND COMES, COMES OUTTA WAYNE'S BUDGET.

SO THAT'S ALL.

THAT'S ALL FINE.

AND, UH, BUT I, I'D BE INTERESTED IN EXPLORING IT IF, IF YOU GUYS ARE YEAH.

UM, YEAH, I'M, I AM WHERE YOU ARE WITH THE PAST AND I'M JUST KIND OF SCRATCHING MY HEAD.

I, I REALLY COULDN'T, UM, SEE THAT MATCHING, MATCHING THE FUNDING AND IT DIDN'T.

UM, I STRUGGLED WITH IT.

SO, AND I DO HAVE DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP TOO THAN, THAN YEAH.

THAN TO, BUT YOU KNOW, WAYNE BRINGS UP A GREAT POINT.

YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE THE ONLY MUNICIPALITY FUNDING THEM, THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT SCENARIO.

AND, AND I, I LIKED, ALSO LIKED THE LECTURE SERIES IDEA, AND I THINK THEY LIKED IT.

MM.

UM, AND I DON'T THINK THEY CAME INTO THIS, UH, PROGRAM

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THINKING ABOUT THAT, FOCUSED ON THAT.

OTHERWISE THEY WOULD, YEAH.

THEY WOULD HAVE A SERIES, HEY, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE PROPO PROPOSING.

YEAH.

I KNOW WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT.

THE LIAISON.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE THE LIAISON TO THAT , PROMOTE THAT.

AND WE, AND WE DID HAVE ONE BEFORE.

WE'D HAD A COUNCIL LIAISON TOO, THE WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL.

UM, I'M WITH YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO REENGAGE WITH THEM.

IT'S AN INTERESTING CONCEPT.

MM-HMM .

WE'VE DONE A LOT TO KIDS.

WE'VE DONE A, THIS WOULD BE MORE OF AN ADULT, ADULT ORIENTED INVESTMENT.

VERY BUSINESS ORIENTED TOO.

THEY'RE VERY BUSINESS ORIENTED.

YEAH.

I'M NOT SURE THAT, I MIGHT NOT WANT TO TRY TO DIP MY TOE INTO THE, INTO THE INVESTMENT POOL AND REENGAGE WITH THEM RATHER THAN JUMP FULL IN AT 25.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S FULL IN, I THINK, 'CAUSE I THINK THEY HAVE LIKE THREE DIFFERENT TIERS AND I THINK THIS IS THE MIDDLE TIER.

AND THEY EVEN, THEY EVEN TOLD ME WHEN I FIRST MET WITH THEM MONTHS AGO LAST YEAR, PROBABLY SOMETIME, WAS IT, I THINK THE HIGHER TIER IS FORTIES, THAT SOUND KIND OF RIGHT.

I, I 40 OR I THOUGHT IT WAS CLOSER TO 60, HONESTLY.

YEAH, BECAUSE IT WAS MORE BUILT FOR LIKE FORTUNE 500.

YEAH.

FIVE BUSINESSES.

AND THIS WAS, THEY DID MEANT FOR US, BUT THEY SAID, WE DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD FIT FOR YOU.

OKAY.

I THINK THE OTHER ONE'S MAYBE 15.

I LIKE THE 15,000.

I LIKE THE 15 IS WHERE I WAS GONNA GO WITH MY TOW GAP.

THE 15 I, I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT IT, IT GAVE US, YOU GET MORE.

SO WITHIN THIS TIER, I I'M, YOU GET MORE, UM, TICKETS AND INVITES TO EVENTS OUTSIDE.

YEAH.

SO I THINK CERTAINLY WITH THIS ONE, UM, I KIND OF FEEL A LOT OF THIS WOULD BE NEGOTIABLE ONCE WE GO IN THERE.

BUT WE COULD SAY, HEY, THESE ARE CERTAIN EVENTS WE'D LIKE TO HAVE.

BUT THEN OUTSIDE EVENTS IN ADDISON, YOU GET A LITTLE BIT MORE VALUE AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING AROUND, AROUND, YOU KNOW, DALLAS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

UM, AND I REMEMBER DOING THE MATH LAST YEAR AND THERE WAS A VERY SIGNIFICANT VALUE ADD BY GOING UP INTO THE, TO THE MIDDLE TIER.

YES.

AND THEN SAME THING GOING UP TO THE HIGHER TILL TIER, THERE WASN'T AS MUCH VALUE TO GO UP THERE.

SO WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST YEAR, IT REALLY, IT REALLY FELT LIKE THAT MIDDLE TIER IS WHERE YOU WERE GETTING THE MOST VALUE.

THAT'S WHAT I RECALL TOO.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS TO DO THE 25.

UM, IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THAT, THAT WE COULD GO TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, WE ARE WANTING, WE WERE WANTING THIS, UH, WHAT DID YOU CALL IT? THE, UH, LECTURE, LECTURE, LECTURE SERIES, SPEAKING SERIES.

UM, AND, AND PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER WITH 'EM AND, AND HAVE THEM BRING SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SHARE SOMETHING WITH US SO WE KNOW WHAT THE HECK WE'RE LOOKING AT.

SOME HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION, RIGHT.

A SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATION WHERE WE KNOW, HEY, THIS IS, THIS IS THE PRODUCTIONS, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT IT KINDA LOOKS LIKE.

WE DON'T NEED IT TO BE EXACT, BUT WE JUST KIND OF NEED A FEEL FOR WHAT THE HECK WE'RE TALKING HOW MANY, HOW MANY LECTURES.

UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHERE WOULD THESE BE? I GUESS IT'D BE AT OUR HOTELS.

WELL, THEY SURE SEEM INTERESTED IN IT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I MEAN, COULD BE RIGHT? THAT'D BE THAT'S MY VISION.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S MY VISION.

JUST IT'S READY TO GO.

AND, AND I I BUT WE MAY NOT HAVE SPACE.

IF WE DO, IT'D BE PERFECT.

IT'S A DAYTIME EVENT, YOU KNOW, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY DAYTIME EVENTS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD, WE COULD GET FINER DETAILS AND, AND, AND BRING THIS BACK SO WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, MORE OF WHAT WE'RE, WHAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO OFFER? YEAH, WE COULD, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

AND SOME OF IT MAY BE KIND OF PUSHES AS WELL.

I MEAN, WE CAN GET MORE DETAIL ON WHAT EXACTLY WE WOULD GET OUT OF IT TANGIBLY.

BUT THEN I THINK WE ALSO HAVE, TO WAYNE'S POINT, THE INTANGIBLE, WE CAN PUSH THEM ON CERTAIN THINGS BECAUSE WE ARE, WE WOULD BE THE ONLY CITY.

THEY WANT MORE CITIES, RIGHT? THEY'RE TRYING TO GET MORE CITIES.

SO IF THEY CAN COME HERE AND SHOW THE VALUE ADD BY HAVING A CITY INVOLVED, I THINK WE CAN ALSO PUSH THEM ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT RATHER THAN LOCK DOWN SOME FOR LACK FOR TABLE THIS ONE FOR A FEW DAYS UNTIL WE GET MORE INFORMATION AND, AND COME BACK TO THIS.

ULTIMATELY, THIS IS JUST, THIS WILL, WE CAN JUST HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AT THE BUDGET.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THE BUDGET, I WOULD COMFORTABLE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD GIVE US MORE TIME.

YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE LECTURE? THIS IS COMING OUTTA YOUR FUNDS.

ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE LECTURE SERIES? YEAH, I, I THINK IF WE TAKE THIS NUMBER 25,000 'CAUSE WE, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE, I WAS A LITTLE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

OKAY.

SO I CAN GO BACK TO THEM AND, AND FIGURE OUT, HEY, CAN WE REALLY PUT A SOURCE TO A USE A DOLLAR, UM, TO, TO WHAT THAT GETS AND REALLY KIND OF UNDERSTAND.

AND THEN I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR OFFERING THING AND SAY, HEY, I THINK THIS IS, THIS WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE.

UM, BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE, WE HAD MORE OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS THIS YEAR WHEN THEY CAME, IT WAS, I BELIEVE, THE SAME, UH, REQUEST.

BUT, UH, THERE'S NEW LEADERSHIP NOW, SO I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR HER.

SO BILL, WE'LL DO IS THE METRO CREST CHAMBER BASE BUDGET.

WE'LL HAVE WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL AS A DECISION PACKAGE FOR THE FULL COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

OKAY.

AND WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION AT THAT TIME.

THANK YOU.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

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YEAH.

THANK YOU WAYNE.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE GENERAL, GENERAL FUND, LOCAL SERVICE, LOCAL SERVICES, NONPROFITS.

AND WE'VE GOT CODY'S, CODY'S FRIENDS RESCUE.

JUST MAKE ONE NOTE AS YOU GO THROUGH THE EXCEL SHEET, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SHOWING THE, UM, WE HAVE A BUDGET NUMBER THERE WHERE THE GREEN, OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE'S NOT A HARD CAP, LIKE THERE WAS WITH THE HOTEL FUND, IF YOU WANT TO GO OVER, IT JUST COMES FROM GENERAL FUND AND, AND TAX REVENUE OBVIOUSLY.

IS THAT, IS THAT THE, IN YOUR PRELIMINARY BUDGET? THAT'S THE NUMBER Y'ALL HAVE IN THERE.

THE NU THE NUMBER IN GREEN IS WHAT WE HAVE IN THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET.

OKAY.

SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND THE REQUESTED IS, UH, 20, NO, 13,000 OR 23,000.

23,000.

YEAH.

OKAY.

GOOD JOB.

THAT'S GOOD.

SO , THAT IS HARD.

I JUST WANNA POINT OUT A COUPLE THINGS IF I COULD.

ON CODY'S FRIEND RESCUE, AND THIS ALSO RELATES TO ANIMAL SERVICES, ADDISON ANIMAL SERVICES IS, UM, SO WE, WE'VE GOT THIS AGREEMENT THAT WE JUST, THAT WE JUST INITIATED, UM, OR WE INITIATED A LONG-TERM AGREEMENT WITH AMERICA'S, UH, AMERICA'S.

MM-HMM .

ALL, ALL AMERICAN DOG.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

AND, AND SO, UH, IN THAT AGREEMENT, THEY, THEY DO TAKE, IT'S, IT'S ANIMALS, RIGHT? IT'S NOT JUST DOGS.

AND SO ON THAT AGREEMENT, WE'VE GOT HOW MANY ANIMALS DO THEY, DO THEY HELP US WITH PER YEAR? IS IT 200? 200? YEAH.

200.

OKAY.

AND SO, UM, ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH PER ANIMAL? 3 375, 3 25 SOMETHING.

3 75, 3 75 PER ANIMAL.

SO IF THAT'S A CAT OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER, OTHER ANIMALS, I FORGET, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT JUST DOGS AND CATS.

SO ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO CALCULATE.

WE, UH, I JUST FOUND OUT, UM, ANIMAL SERVICES TOOK IN 21 CATS.

MM-HMM .

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE NUMBER ONE.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF THOSE CATS AND THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA HELP, UH, FIND THOSE, HOPEFULLY FIND ALL THOSE CATS.

A A, A FOREVER HOME.

BUT, UH, IN, IN ALSO DOING SO THAT IS, IS NOT GONNA COUNT AGAINST OUR NUMBER WITH ALL AMERICAN DOGS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING, SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO CALCULATE AS WE WE GO THROUGH THIS STUFF.

AND, AND ALSO ASHLEY, UM, IT WAS, YOU COULD ELABORATE ON THIS, BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, WAS, UM, ADOPTION OF PETS, AND I'M TRYING TO FIND IT 'CAUSE THERE'S A REALLY GOOD, OKAY.

IT'S, SO IT'S PAGE FIVE OF OUR Q AND A.

SO, SO WHEN THE ANIMALS COME IN, UM, SOME OF THEM ANIMAL SERVICES HAS SOME OF THEM GOING TO THESE WHAT LOOKS TO BE LIKE A DOZEN DIFFERENT ENTITIES.

CORRECT.

AND THEY'RE HELPING, UM, PLACE THESE ANIMALS.

RIGHT.

AND, UM, BUT IF, BUT IF THESE ANIMALS DON'T GET PLACED, UM, WITH ONE OF THESE ENTITIES, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO ALL AMERICAN DOGS.

CORRECT? IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

SO, UM, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THIS LIST.

SO THIS IS, THIS IS INCREDIBLY HELPFUL TO GET A BETTER FEEL OF, OF, OF HOW THIS, HOW THIS PLAYS OUT WITH, UH, ADDISON ANIMAL SERVICES.

SO ANYWAY, THAT, I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLY HELPFUL TO, TO KNOW AS WE GET, GET INTO THIS.

UM, AND BECAUSE WE'VE GOT CODY'S FRIEND RESCUE, WE'VE GOT DALLAS CAT LADY, UM, THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE THIS OUT.

AND SO, UH, WITH CODY'S FRIENDS RESCUE, UM, THEY'RE TELLING US, UH, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE PLACED HOW MANY DOGS? LIKE TWO DOGS, UM, IN ADDISON OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS.

THEY USED TO BE, THEY USED TO RUN A ESTABLISHMENT HERE, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

YES.

THREE IN, NO.

SO AS VOLUNTEERS, IT WAS, YES, IT WAS A FEW THAT THEY HAD PLACED OVER THE LAST, A FEW.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE.

AND THIS IS DIFFICULT, BUT WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE SOME VERY DIFFICULT DECISIONS.

THIS IS ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE, WE HAVE REVIEWED AND WE'RE GONNA REVIEW ARE DOING AMAZING THINGS.

E EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

UM, BUT ONE OF THE CALCULATIONS WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO, UH, INCLUDE IS, IS HOW, HOW ARE THEY SERVING OUR COMMUNITY? SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE DIFFICULT CHALLENGES WE HAVE.

AND IN, IN THIS ONE, I THINK THEY'RE DOING GREAT WORK.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TWO BIG DOG LOVERS, SO I WANT TO, OBVIOUSLY I'M GONNA, I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THE NEED THAT THEY'RE FILLING OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS.

YEP.

IN ADDISON, FOR ADDISON, PROBABLY THE NUMBER THAT THEY HAD PROVIDED TO US.

THEY SAID OVER

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THE YEARS WE'VE HAD AT LEAST 13 FINALIZED ADOPTIONS IN ADDISON.

OKAY.

WE DRILLED DOWN, SO THEY DIDN'T FILL OUT THE APPLICATION CORRECTLY.

THAT'S WHY I KEPT, I WAS TRYING TO GET TO THE ANSWER THEY SHOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED IN THE FRONT END.

SO, UM, DID YOU, SO THAT'S 13 RESIDENTS THAT HAVE ADOPTED ADAM, IS THAT CORRECT? FROM THEIR RECORDS.

AND THEY DID SAY THEY TRIED TO DO THE BEST THEY COULD, UM, TO LOOK AT THEIR RECORDS.

THERE WAS 13 DOGS GOING TO ADDISON FAMILY FAMILIES.

THEY HAD OVER 124 APPLICATIONS FROM ADDISON FAMILIES, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM.

THAT WAS OVER THE YEARS.

CORRECT.

OVER THE YEARS.

AND DID THEY, DID THEY REQUEST ANYTHING LAST YEAR? NO.

OKAY.

I DIDN'T THINK.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, PRETTY WELL FUNDED WITH THIS 10,000 BEING ONLY 1.8% OF THEIR ANNUAL REVENUE.

AND, AND, UH, AND YOU RECALL HIS RESPONSE WAS THAT, OR THEIR RESPONSE WAS THAT A LOT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, SMALL DONORS, INDIVIDUAL DONORS AND, UM, IF, OR WAS THAT, WAS THAT CAT LADY THAT SAID THAT? I THINK IT WAS HIM.

IT WAS, YEAH.

YEAH.

NORTH TEXAS GIVING DAY.

YEAH.

OH YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

AND UM, YEAH, SO, SO, UM, I THINK THEY DO HAVE A PRESENCE IN TOWN.

THEY DO.

YEAH.

AND, UH, UM, THEY HAVEN'T REQUESTED IN, IN THE PAST.

RIGHT.

UM, I'M, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH, WITH AWARDING THEM WHAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR THIS YEAR ON A, ON A, I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD PROBATIONARY, BUT LET'S LOOK AT IT AND SEE HOW MUCH VALUE WE GET OUT OF THEM IN THE NEXT YEAR GOING FORWARD TO THE NEXT, BUT YEAH.

AND THAT'S GENERALLY WHAT WE DO ANYWAY.

WE'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT, WHAT THAT LOOK LIKE.

AGREED.

YEAH.

AGREED.

I THINK THEY DO GREAT WORK.

MM-HMM .

UM, I, I JUST HOPE THEY ARE AS ACCESSIBLE AS THEY SAY THEY ARE 24 HOURS A DAY IF WE HAVE TO CALL AND, AND DO THAT.

AND I'M SURE THEY ARE.

I'M, I'M NOT DOUBTING MM-HMM .

DUE DILIGENCE, BUT I, I WOULD BE GOOD WITH, WITH FUNDING THEM THIS YEAR.

YEAH.

YEAH.

ME TOO.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I REALLY, I MEAN, I REALLY LIKE THE WORK THEY'RE DOING.

YEAH.

AND IT IS JUST NO, NO KILL.

THEY, THEY REALLY HAVE YOU WORKED RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE.

YEAH.

THEY CARE FOR THE ANIMALS VETERINARY LOVE.

YEAH.

UM, THEY'RE ALL PROTECTION.

ITS ALL THEY DO, THEY DO A GOOD WORK.

IT'S ALL FOCUSED ON, ON THE, THE BEST THING FOR THE, FOR THE ANIMALS.

RIGHT.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO MM-HMM .

JUST PUT 'EM IN A KENNEL LIKE A LOT OF THESE PLACES ARE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY FOSTERING THEM IN HOMES MM-HMM .

TO WHERE THE DOG HAS A BETTER OPPORTUNITY BOTH MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY TO THRIVE.

YEAH.

SO I AM, I, I AM PERSONALLY, I'M GOOD WITH FUNDING NOW.

I WAS GONNA SAY 5,000, BUT I'VE GOT TWO 10,000, SO WE'RE GONNA GO WITH TWO.

THERE WE GO.

10,000.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

DALLAS CAT LADY.

UM, I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THEN.

I, I, I WOULD TOO.

AND I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FOR LONG TIME, FOUR YEARS MM-HMM .

MAYBE FOUR YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND I WAS, I WAS VERY HAPPY TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE WHEN WE STARTED, BUT, UM, WHEN I KNOW WHAT THEY DO, AND THEY ONLY COME BACK WITH 5,000 MM-HMM .

EVERY TIME.

YEAH.

UH, THEY'RE LITTLE REALITY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? JUST, YOU JUST WANT HELP 'EM, YOU WANNA HUG 'EM AND YEP.

AND GIVE THEM SOME OF MY OWN PERSONAL MONEY TO HELP.

YEAH.

AND SO, KNOWING, KNOWING SOME OF THESE RESIDENTS MM-HMM .

THE WAY I KNOW THESE ARE, THESE ARE REALLY CLOSE FRIENDS AND THEY'RE THEIR VOLUNTEERS, AND YOU HEAR THOSE SUCCESS STORIES AND YOU HEAR HOW HARD THEY'RE WORKING.

SO I'M, I'M ALL FOR 5,000.

LET ME, UM, IF, IF I CAN MAKE A COMMENT OR TWO ON THIS, UM, SHE DOES DO GREAT WORK.

MM-HMM .

THEY NOT JUST HER, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ARMY.

THEY HAVE AN ARMY OF, THEY'RE IN OUR ARMY.

DO A GOOD JOB.

MM-HMM .

AND I HAVE, SINCE WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO RESEARCH ON, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN READING ARTICLES AND, AND APPARENTLY THERE ARE MANY OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE HAVING TO CLOSE THEIR DOORS.

MM-HMM .

VETERINARY CARE GOING UP SO, SO HIGH.

THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I WOULD HAVE ON, ON THIS, I'D LIKE TO BUMP THEM TO 7,500.

THEY'VE, THEY'VE ASKED FOR THE FIVE FOR THIS.

THEY'VE, I THINK THEY'VE HAD A GREAT PRESENCE IN ADDISON.

I THINK THEY'VE DONE US A GOOD SERVICE.

MM-HMM .

IT'S JUST, JUST A THOUGHT AND A SUGGESTION.

AND IF WE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROVI, THEY'RE ALMOST, TO ME THERE ARE OTHER DOG RESCUES AND THERE WE HAVE, WE HAVE A, A CONTRACT WITH ALL AMERICAN TO GET THE DOG.

CATS ARE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING.

UH, WHOLE DIFFERENT ANIMAL, A WHOLE, A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANIMAL.

DIDN'T THINK WE USED ACRONYMS. , IT'S A, IT'S A COMPLETELY

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DIFFERENT SERVICE.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE FERAL CATS WILL LIVE ON THEIR OWN AND THRIVE ON THE STREETS.

AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY OUT THERE HELPING US GET THESE CATS OFF THE STREET.

PHYSICALLY, I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD HUNTING, BUT ACTUALLY GOING OUT AND CORRALLING AND IT IS NOT EASY.

AND DOING THIS.

YEAH.

AND FOR SOME OF THOSE, THOSE ARE WILDCATS ARE NOT GONNA BE ADOPTABLE, BUT THEY CATCH 'EM AND, AND, AND, AND NEUTER THEM WITH THE TNR.

YEAH.

TNR PROGRAMS REPLACE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

YEAH.

IT'S HUGE.

AND THEY, THEY'RE NOT PRODUCING 500 KITTENS OVER THE YEAR.

CORRECT.

JUST IN THEIR NEUTERING PROGRAM.

SPAYED AND NEUTERING PROGRAM.

I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING IT.

YEAH.

I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

YOU GOOD WITH 7,500? YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

7,500 FOR THE DALLAS CAT LADY.

I THINK THEY'RE, UH, REALLY GONNA, I THINK, I THINK THEY'RE REALLY GONNA APPRECIATE THAT.

MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT IF WE DID WOVEN IN TRAFFIC 9 1 1 AND WRAPPED UP WITH JFS AND METROCREST SINCE THERE'LL BE PROBABLY PRETTY GOOD DISCUSSIONS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? I'M SORRY.

ONE MORE, ONE MORE TIME.

SHOOT.

MAYBE WE COULD DO JFS AND, UH, METROCREST SERVICES AFTER WE WERE, DO THE OTHERS.

JUST KIND, WE KINDA SEE WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO.

LET JUST TAKE A DISCUSSION WISE TO, TO, TO GET THOSE DONE AND THEN FINISH WITH THE OTHER TWO.

BUT, WELL, I, WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO.

YEAH.

UM, I'M GOOD.

I LIKE, LET'S DO TRAFFIC 9 1 1.

OKAY.

WE DO THAT.

SURE.

UH, BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE GOT, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK WE'VE GOT WOVEN JFS METROCREST SERVICES, UM, THEY'RE ALL OFFERING SOME A LOT OF SIMILAR SERVICES.

SO CAN WE DO YEAH.

TRAFFIC 9 1 1.

UM, SO LAST YEAR WE FUNDED, UH, 15,000 AND, AND, UH, THEY'RE ASKING FOR 25,000 MM-HMM .

UH, THIS YEAR.

LAST YEAR THEY, THEY HELPED TWO ADDISON RESIDENTS, UH, THIS, THIS LAST 12 MONTHS.

THEY HAVE NOT HAD ANY, UH, LUCKILY MM-HMM .

THAT THEY'VE HAD TO, UH, AS FAR AS ADDISON RESIDENTS THAT THEY'VE HAD TO SERVE.

BUT, UM, THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE DOING GREAT SERVICES.

UH, UH, I WILL SHARE, UH, FOR ANYBODY WHO'S, WHO'S WATCHING THIS, THAT, UH, THE COMMITTEE DID MEET, MEET AT THEIR, UH, THEIR OFFICES THIS WEEK.

AND, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO BELIEVE WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH.

UM, BUT IT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR ALL THREE OF US TO, TO UNDERSTAND AND GET A BETTER FEEL FOR THE REALITY OF WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE AND, UH, THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.

SO, UM, SO MY INITIAL THOUGHTS ON IT ARE TO DO WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, BUT REALLY INCREASE THE, THE AMOUNT OF, UH, PARTICIPATION WE CAN DO WITH THEM ON AWARENESS.

UH, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAY MAYBE WE COULD DO SOME EDUCATION SESSIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK WE, THERE'S WAYS THAT, WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AGAIN, THIS IS SEVEN, SEVEN TENTHS OF A PERCENT OF THEIR, OF THEIR ANNUAL REVENUE.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY WELL FUNDED IN, IN NUMBER OF WAYS.

UM, BUT I, BUT I THINK BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH THEM, THERE'S A LOT WE CAN DO, UH, TO HELP INCREASE THE AWARENESS, UH, DO SOME EDUCATION, UH, BETTER CONNECT WITH, UH, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY INITIAL THOUGHTS ON IT.

THE, THE TROUBLE THAT I HAD WITH IT, AND THEY DO WONDERFUL WORK AS WELL, AND I ECHO YOUR SENTIMENT.

EVERYONE THAT IS ASKING US FOR MONEY DOES WONDERFUL WORK.

MM-HMM .

AND IT'S JUST THE HARDEST JOB I'VE DONE ON THIS COUNCIL IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

BUT IT WAS A WONDERFUL MEETING THAT WE HAD.

I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A, THEY CAN'T EXPLAIN WHAT THEY DO OR HOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S THERE.

UH, THEY, THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T EDUCATE ME ON HOW TO HELP THEM IN, IN THE PUBLIC ARENA.

UM, I, I AM FULLY AGREEMENT WITH WHAT YOU SAY.

I THINK THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO NON MONETARILY WOULD HELP THEM MORE THAN THE SMALL AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE THEM.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING THEM AT OUR FESTIVALS OR OUR, OUR MEETINGS HAVE TABLES MM-HMM .

WHAT THEY NEED, IN MY OPINION, THE THING THAT WE CAN HELP THEM WITH MORE IS HELPING THEM GET THEIR WORD OUT AND EDUCATING OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR PEOPLE ON HOW TO HELP THEM.

UM, I, I LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE OFFICED IN ADDISON, BUT THAT'S ONLY FOR A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

MORE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE OFFICE HERE ANY LONGER.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK FORWARD THEM RATHER THAN A MONETARY GIFT IS WORKING FAR MORE STRONGLY WITH THEM, WITH AN IN KIND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM AND LETTING THEM COME IN AND HAVE TABLES.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD BE ON THE SCALE OF A FAR LESS THAN

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THE, THAN WHAT THE ASK IS ON THIS ONE.

WELL, I, I THINK WE ALL AGREED ON THE IN KIND, UH, AT THAT MEETING THAT WE WANTED.

I'M SAYING, I MEAN, SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DISAGREEMENT ON, ON ANYTHING.

I'M HOPING THAT THAT, AND I THINK YOU WERE GONNA FOLLOW UP IF YOU HADN'T ALREADY WITH STAFF AND YEAH.

I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO DAVID ABOUT WE GOT THAT IN MOTION.

I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

MM-HMM .

I, I, I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ADDISON RESIDENT SERVE.

I LOVE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

I WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE MOVING TO.

I'D LIKE TO OUT OF ADDISON CLOSE BY.

THEY'RE GONNA BE CLOSE.

IT'LL BE CLOSE BY.

OKAY.

UM, UM, I WAS THINKING, I WAS THINKING $5,000 JUST BECAUSE OF THE NO RESIDENT SERVED, UM, OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS.

BUT I, I WOULD, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.

I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.

THAT'S ABOUT WHERE I WAS GONNA SAY, I, I DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO ZERO, BUT I, I, TO YOUR POINT, IT'S SUCH A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THEIR FUNDING.

IT'S NOT REALLY THE MONEY THAT'S GONNA BE HELPING THEM.

I KNOW EVERY PENNY COUNTS FOR THEM, DON'T GET ME WRONG.

BUT I REALLY WANNA BE MORE PROACTIVE IN TRYING TO HELP THEM RATHER THAN FUND THEM.

THERE'S SUCH A HUGE NATIONAL PUSH FOR THEIR CAUSE RIGHT NOW ANYWAY, THAT I, I, I'M, I WOULD BE FULLY ON BOARD WITH THE 5,000.

OKAY.

AND I'M SORRY TO BE CHEAP LIKE THAT, BUT DID I, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S CHEAP, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND IN ANOTHER CATEGORY.

IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO ME TO STAY ENGAGED WITH THIS ORGANIZATION.

YES.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE, UM, THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS AMAZING.

IT IS.

YEAH.

AND, AND WE'RE FORTUNATE, UM, THAT NOT A LOT OF IT'S GOING ON IN ADDISON AND SOME OF IT IS RIGHT.

BUT IT'S GOING ON.

IT'S GOING, IT'S OCCURRING.

IT'S OCCURRING.

YEAH.

AND THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, ADDISON RESIDENTS HAVEN'T BEEN AFFECTED DIRECTLY.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.

AND, AND MAYBE, MAYBE WE, WE CREATE MORE AWARENESS AND UM, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE HELP STOP THIS.

YEAH.

BECAUSE FOR ME, IT, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS COME DOWN TO EXACTLY HOW MANY ADDISON RESIDENTS ARE SERVED, BUT THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND I JUST SEE THE VALUE OF THIS WORK BEING SO, SO GREAT.

AND, UM, AND THAT'S, TALK ABOUT HARD WORK, FERAL CATS VERSUS THIS, I MEAN, THIS IS THE 24 7 BEING AVAILABLE AND BEING ADVOCATE AND HANGING OUT WITH THAT, UH, WITH THAT VICTIM FOR HOWEVER MANY HOURS IT TAKES ON THE INITIAL, UH, INITIAL CALL.

BUT SO I, SO I'M STILL SUPPORTIVE OF THE 15 THAT WE DID LAST YEAR, BUT APPARENTLY I'M THE, UH, THE ODD ONE OUT ON THAT.

OKAY.

AND, AND ALSO, UH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO COVER THAT THIS IS, UH, THIS IS FROM, UH, A FUND CALLED THE CHILD SAFETY FUND.

UM, SO THIS IS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE USED TO TALKING ABOUT WITH SOME OF OUR, OUR BIG YEAH.

LARGER, LARGER FUNDS.

UM, AND SO WE'VE GOT THAT PART OF THE HANDOUT THOUGH, AND IT'S GOT A DESCRIPTION UNDERNEATH THE FUND, WHICH IS VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UM, SO WE'VE GOT JJFS, JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES, METROCREST SERVICES, AND WOVEN, UM, IN OUR Q AND A.

WE'VE GOT, UM, I SEE WOVEN AS BEING SEPARATE FROM THE OTHER TWO BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT BECAUSE THE OTHER TWO ARE SOMEWHAT SIMILAR AS FAR AS, UM, UH, SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS AND WOVEN IS, IS A STRAIGHT UP, YOU KNOW, MEDICAL FACILITY.

AND THIS IS A, FOR A SPECIFIC PROJECT FOR SPECIFIC, UM, UH, THE EMPOWER HEALTH, THE, THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, AND WHERE THE OTHERS ARE MORE ALL INCLUSIVE, THE WAY I SEE IT.

SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD, AND IT'S ON PAGE NINE, IT'S NOT PAGE NINE AND 10, IT'S JUST KIND OF THE OVERLAP BETWEEN JFS METROCREST SERVICES AND WOVEN WHO, WHO IS OFFERING, OFFERING WHAT.

AND, UM, WHEN I GO THROUGH THAT, AND I'M GONNA JUST GIVE EVERYBODY A SECOND TO LOOK AT THAT, BUT WHEN I GO THROUGH THAT, THERE'S, THERE'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF OVERLAP WITH WHAT JFS IS OFFERING, UM, THAT, THAT WOVEN ALSO OFFERS.

UM, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, WE CONSIDER THIS AND, AND, UH, WE ALSO CONSIDER WHERE BOTH OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE LOCATED, UM, IN THE EASE OF LOCATION TO, TO GET TO JFS AND, AND A LITTLE BIT, UH, MORE DIFFICULT FOR WOVEN.

UM, SO I THINK I, I JUST, I THINK WE'RE AT A SITUATION NOW WITH JFS THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER, CONSIDER WHAT, WHAT EACH ONE OF THESE THREE ARE DOING.

UM, BECAUSE WHAT'S THE LOCATION OVERLAP, BUT THE LOCATION FOR WOVEN IS REALLY ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF ADDISON,

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WHERE JFS IS NOT NEARLY AS CONVENIENT AS GOING JUST RIGHT DOWN TO LBJ AND, UH, WHEREVER THAT, UH, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE, THAT THE FARMER'S BRANCH LOCATION IS CLOSER TO ANY ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS ON WEST EDISON AND JFS F POSSIBLY.

OKAY.

I DON'T, BUT I HAVEN'T, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T RUN THEM MAP, BUT, YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

I, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT.

BUT SO YEAH, I JUST, I JUST SEE A LOT OF OVERLAP.

I THINK, I THINK WOVEN IS PROVIDING, I CAN'T FIND SOMETHING THAT JFS IS NOT OFFERING THAT WOVEN OFFERS.

UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S IN MY MIND WHEN YOU, BECAUSE JFS IS, IS DOING SOME GREAT THINGS, BUT LAST YEAR WE, WELL, I THINK THEY, THEY ASKED FOR 25,000 AND, AND, UM, WE FUNDED THEM 25,000 THIS YEAR.

THEY'RE OFF, THEY'RE ASKING FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

SO THESE FUNDING REQUESTS ARE, ARE GETTING MUCH BIGGER.

SO WOVEN YOU, YOU WANT TO DO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUGGESTING WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, OKAY.

MM-HMM .

WHICH IS 5,000, CORRECT.

MM-HMM .

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UM, UH, JFS HAS, UH, COME INTO TOWN AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK WOVEN FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST, BUT I, I WOULD NOT FUND WOVEN AND, AND HAVE THEM USE EITHER METRO CREST.

WE'RE GONNA BE FUNDING METRO CREST OR JFS, I THINK JFS COVERS THAT NEED.

UM, I WOULD, TO ME, I THINK WE'RE GOING THROUGH A TRANSITIONAL PERIOD, UH, LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR WITH JFS MOVING IN.

UM, AND, AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SUPPORT WOVEN, UM, UM, UM, TO A LESSER DEGREE.

SO I, I, I'M AT, I'M AT $3,000.

UM, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO MEET YOU HALFWAY IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

$4,000, BUT I THINK, I THINK WE'VE GOT A TRANSITION PERIOD GOING OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, UM, WHERE, WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF THESE SERVICES OVERLAPPING A LOT OF THESE, THESE PEOPLE GOING TO JFS.

I'M, I'M STILL WHERE I WAS.

OKAY.

I'M AT 3000.

YOU'RE AT I'M AT ZERO.

YOU'RE AT ZERO.

UM, ALRIGHT.

UM, IF WE'LL DO 2000, I'LL GO TO 2000 TO TRANSITION THEM OUT OF THE SYSTEM FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.

I DON'T WANNA DO ZERO.

OKAY.

I'LL, I'LL DO 2000.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, NEXT WE'VE GOT, UH, JFS JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES.

AND SO LAST YEAR WE DID 25,000 FUNDING.

AND THIS YEAR THEY'RE OFFERING, THEY'RE ASKING FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND FUNDING, UM, ON COURSE TO SERVE 600 UNIQUE ADDISON RESIDENTS.

THE FUNDING LAST YEAR, LET ME ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE.

WAS THAT JUST A GENERAL FUNDING LAST YEAR FOR 25 FOR ALL OF JFS? MY UNDERSTANDING THIS HUNDRED IS STRICTLY FOR THE FOOD BANK.

AM I CORRECT IN THAT? IT'S THE FOOD PANTRY PROGRAM? THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS AT THE TOP OF THE, YEAH, SO I MEAN, THIS, THIS IS NOT, I THINK THIS IS KIND OF A, A DIFFERENT THAN WE DID LA I DON'T THINK IT WAS, WAS IT SPECIFIED LAST YEAR THAT IT WAS GOING TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST THE BIG UMBRELLA? I DON'T RECALL.

YEAH, SORRY, WAS ISH.

YEAH, I WAS JUST SAYING THE FOOD PANTRY FOOD PANTRY THE LAST YEAR FOR THE FOOD PANTRY.

OKAY.

THAT'S AN AWFULLY BIG JUMP FOR ME.

AND THEY DO GREAT WORK.

AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING, AS YOU COULD HAVE TOLD IN MY LAST CONVERSATION, I'M WANTING TO CERTAINLY TRY TO FUNNEL OUR RESOURCES TO MORE LOCAL PLACES.

THAT'S AN AWFULLY LARGE JUMP.

SO JUST TO, FROM, JUST TO MAYBE, AND YOU ALL PROBABLY REMEMBER THIS, BUT FROM LAST YEAR, THEY REQUESTED 50.

AND THE CONVERSATION, I BELIEVE AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL WAS THEY'RE ONLY GONNA BE OPEN HALF A YEAR BECAUSE THEY OPENED MIDYEAR.

RIGHT.

AND

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SO THEY FUNDED, WE FUND, SO THEY DID REQUEST 50 LAST YEAR.

THEY 50 YEAR.

AND I BELIEVE THE COMMITTEE SAID, HEY, WE'RE GONNA DO 25, BECAUSE THEY'RE ONLY GONNA BE OPEN HALF THE YEAR.

SO THERE IS SOME NUANCE TO THE, OKAY.

AND, AND THEY ARE OFFERING, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE ALL TOURED THERE.

WELL, THREE OF US HAVE TOURED THERE.

THEY'RE OFFERING MORE THAN FOOD, UH, PANTRY, BUT RIGHT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY PUT ON THEIR APPLICATION.

RIGHT.

THEY YEAR MARKED IT FOR THAT'S FOR THAT PROGRAM.

YEP.

YEAH.

AND LIKE THEY SAID, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OFFERING ON AVERAGE THREE, THREE DIFFERENT SERVICES PER, PER USER.

BUT FOOD PANTRY BEING ONE OF THE THREE FOR, FOR ALMOST ALL OF THOSE.

WELL, FOR ME, IF WE DID 25 LAST YEAR OR THIS YEAR FOR, UH, HALF A YEAR, I'D BE OKAY WITH DOING 50 FOR A FULL YEAR.

I'D, I'D BE, I WOULD BE OPEN TO FUNDING THEM A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

UH, AND WITH THE THOUGHT THAT IT'D BE REALISTICALLY FOR ALL OF THE VARIOUS SERVICES THAT THEY OFFER.

WELL, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA JUMP AHEAD A LITTLE BIT.

OKAY.

I'M WHERE YOU'RE AT AND I'M WHERE YOU'RE AT.

BUT IT'S GONNA COME OUTTA METRO CREST SERVICES RATHER THAN FUND THEM COMPLETELY.

I WOULD RATHER PUSH SOME MORE, MORE OF THE FUNDING FROM METROCREST IN THIS DIRECTION.

TO ME, BOTH OF THESE ARE A BIG OVERLAP.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE FUNDING TWO ENTITIES THAT DO A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS.

AND I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT IS, I'VE GOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO SPEND ON THIS.

AND IF WE WANT TO TAKE A HUNDRED FROM METROCREST AND, AND, AND PUT IT INTO SOMETHING THAT'S IN OUR TOWN, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

OR GIVE 50 AND 50.

BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE, I GET THE IMPORTANCE OF METROCREST.

I'M NOT DOWNPLAYING THEM, BUT WE HAVE A NEW, I DON'T WANNA SAY A NEW PLAYER.

JFS HAS ALWAYS BEEN AROUND, BUT IS A NEW FACILITY.

THEY'RE OFFERING FAR MORE FACILITIES AND SERVICES THAN THEY USED TO IN THE, IN THE NEW BUILDING THAT THEY'RE IN.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, THE PIE'S ONLY SO BIG.

I WANT TO TAKE THE SLICE AND MAKE, MAKE THE BEST USE OF IT.

AND I WOULD, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE LEAVING IT IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON.

I DON'T WANT TO FUND BOTH OF THESE FULLY.

WHERE WHERE DO YOU LAND WITH JFS? THIS IS FOR THE FOOD PANTRY.

METRO CREST SERVICES HAS A FOOD PANTRY, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PRESENTATIONS.

THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN TELL IF THEY GO TO THIS FOOD PANTRY THAT, AND, AND THE FOOD PANTRIES DON'T SEEM TO CARE.

THEY DON'T CARE IF THEY GET TWO BAGS OF BEANS.

WAS THEIR WORDS RICE OR RICE? RICE, RICE, BEANS.

OKAY, I GET THAT.

BUT IF I SAY A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR JFS, I'M GONNA FIGHT TO TAKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND AWAY FROM METROCREST.

IS IS MY POINT TO YOU.

AND, AND I'D FIGHT YOU ALL DAY ON THAT.

I UNDERSTAND.

YEAH.

I GET THAT.

I, I, THAT'S JUST WRONG.

I THINK THAT'S WRONG THINKING.

I REALLY DO.

BECAUSE METROCREST, WE PARTNERED WITH THEM FOR SO LONG AND THEY CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THEY PROVIDE.

WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW WITH, WITH THE HOMELESS OUTREACH THAT THEY'RE DOING, THAT'S INCREDIBLE.

AND NOBODY ELSE IS DOING THAT AROUND HERE.

THEY BRING SO MUCH VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY.

UH, WE HAVE 267,000 LEFT IN OUR BUDGET RIGHT HERE THAT I COULD SEE SPLITTING BETWEEN, NOT SPLITTING EVENLY BETWEEN THOSE TWO.

BUT EVEN IF YOU WENT TO A HUNDRED FOR JFS, WHAT IS THE AS 67, WHAT IS THE, AS FOR METROCREST, I APOLOGIZE FOR TALKING OVER YOU THERE FOR A, FOR METROCREST FOR METRO ONE EIGHT SEVEN ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SEVEN IS THERE 8 7 1 2 9.

OKAY.

SO A HUNDRED TO JFS AND 1 67.

1 67 TO METROCREST GETS US TO THE BUDGET NUMBER.

AND I WOULD BE, I WOULDN'T BE THRILLED WITH EVEN CUTTING 20,000 FROM METROCREST, BUT I'M, I'D BE WILLING TO DO IT BEFORE YOU DO 80 AND WHATEVER, BUT, AND TO ME TO CUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND OUT OF THE, WHAT WE GAVE TO METRO CREST, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UM, THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE, I THINK IT WOULD BE A HUGE MISTAKE.

AND THEY, SO, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE, UM, THESE QUESTION AND ANSWERS ON THE OVERLAP, UH, METRO CREST SERVICES IS, IS PROVIDING HOMELESSNESS MM-HMM .

UH, OUTREACH.

OUTREACH AND HELP.

UM, JFS DOESN'T OFFER THAT.

UM, JJFS OFFERS STUFF THAT, UM, THAT METROCREST SERVICES OUTSOURCES TO WOVEN.

SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF

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OVERLAP WE HAVE TO CALCULATE.

BUT IT IS, UM, TOP OF MIND TO ME THAT JFS AND METRO METROCREST, SEV, METRO CRE SERVICES, THEY, THEY DO A LOT OF THE SAME THING.

UM, EE EXCEPT FOR METROCREST SERVICES OFFERS THE HOMELESSNESS MM-HMM .

UH, PIECE, WHICH, WHICH JFS DOESN'T.

BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS WHEN I LOOK AT ALL THIS STUFF AND LIKE I'VE BEEN DOING FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS ON THIS COMMITTEE, UM, THESE ARE THE, THESE TWO ARE THE GOLD STANDARDS.

I AGREE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEY'RE THESE ORGANIZATIONS.

I MEAN THE, THE PEOPLE THAT FUND THEM, THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING AND, AND THE, UM, THEY DON'T GET THAT WITHOUT, WITHOUT BEING MM-HMM .

FIRST CLASS IN, IN WHAT THEY DO.

BUT THE SITUATION WE HAVE IS THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP BECAUSE WE GOT TWO, TWO ALL STARS, UH, CLOSE PROXIMITY.

IT'S A GOOD PROBLEM.

GOOD PROBLEM.

THERE IS, THERE IS OVERLAP AND THE DEMAND CONTINUES TO GROW.

SO THAT OVERLAP IS PROBABLY NECESSARY BECAUSE THERE, NONE OF 'EM ARE SITTING AROUND HAVING SLOW DAYS.

I DON'T THINK.

WELL, I, YOU KNOW, IT, YOU THINK YOU'RE RIGHT FROM MY MY POINT OF VIEW, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF ON COVID, THAT WAS, THAT WAS ROUGH.

SO WE'VE COME DOWN, UH, STABILIZED FROM COVID FROM WHAT I'M SEEING, SORT OF, BUT THEY'RE DOING GREAT WORK, I THINK.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE K, THIS K SHAPE ECONOMY THAT WE HAVE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT K SHAPE, THEY'RE STRUGGLING MORE.

I MEAN, I THINK THE DEMAND'S GONNA CONTINUE TO GROW FOR BOTH OF THESE.

AND, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I THINK, THINK WE NEED TO STAY, UH, IN A GOOD POSITION IN OUR, IN OUR, IN OUR SUPPORT AND FUNDING OF THEM.

MM-HMM .

I'M SORRY.

NO, GO AHEAD.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.

I JUST UM, WANNA MAKE A NOTE AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING THESE, BECAUSE, BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL WORTHWHILE AS WE DO THESE TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, NOT, WE TYPICALLY KIND OF HOLD THAT KIND, THE BASELINE IS WHAT THEY REQUESTED THE NEXT YEAR.

SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO KEEP IN MIND THAT ARBOR FOUNDATION IS NOT, ABNORMALLY NOT IN THIS.

RIGHT.

SO IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY UP, YOU COULD BE IN A TOUGH SPOT NEXT YEAR WHERE YOU'RE GOOD POINT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

FIGURE THAT OUT.

SO JUST TO THOUGHT FOR YOU AS YOU'RE VALID POINT.

YEAH.

YEP.

SO RANDY, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

DO YOU, UM, IT IS SIMPLY THE OVERLAP IS ALL, I GET IT.

ALL OF YOUR CO ALL OF YOUR POINTS I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH, THEY ARE THE GOLD STANDARD.

THEY DO WONDERFUL WORK.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE OVERLAP THAT, UH, THAT, THAT I'M LOOKING AT.

AND SO WE'VE GOT THE MIRROR, IT SAID 50,000.

I'VE SAID A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

SO, AND, AND I TAKE DAVID'S POINT BECAUSE LIKELY ARBOR FOUNDATION WILL BE BACK IN THE PICTURE NEXT YEAR IF IT'S AT 65,000.

SO IF WE, SO THEN MAYBE WE SAY THAT WE HAD 200 TO WORK WITH 50 AND ONE 50.

YOU'RE SAYING 50 TO JFS AND ONE 50 TO METROCREST.

WE'RE JUST, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT BOTH, BUT WE NEED TO CONCLUDE.

WE CAN'T TAKE THE, YOU WOULDN'T CONSIDER TAKING THE TOTAL POT AND, AND CUTTING IT IN HALF AND GIVING EQUALS BOTH WAYS.

NO.

'CAUSE WHEN WE, IN, WHEN WE INCREASED METROCREST A COUPLE YEARS AGO, IT WAS BECAUSE THEY ADDED ON THAT HOMELESS OUTREACH.

AND I THINK IT WAS, WAS THAT 40,000 ISH, 35, 40,000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

ABOUT, YEAH.

'CAUSE I WANNA SAY IF YOU GO TO FY 23, 24, IT WAS, IT WAS LESS THAN THE 1 67.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE ADDED A YEAH, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

IT SOUNDS GOOD.

YEAH.

AND, AND, AND, AND THEY, AND THAT THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING ON THAT, THAT, THAT HELPS ADD US OUT TREMENDOUSLY.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT IS THEIR, THEIR GO-TO WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY ENCOUNTER, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, THEY, THEY, THEY GET IN TOUCH WITH METROCREST.

AND SO THEY'RE A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF, OF OUR OPERATION, UH, DEALING WITH THE HOMELESS SITUATION ISH.

DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER, UM, ON, ON THE, WHAT THEY'VE EARMARKED FOR HOMELESSNESS? THAT, THAT PART OF IT? UH, YEAH, THE MOST RECENT WHATEVER YOU HAVE AND HOW MANY, HOW MANY HOMELESS DO THEY HELP US WITH IT? I KNOW OF TWO HABITUALS THAT KEEP COMING BACK.

SO IT'S LIKE I WAS IN, IN MY COMMENTS WHEN THEY WERE MAKING THEIR PRE, I WANNA BREAK THE CYCLE.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO, I I JUST DON'T WANT PUT A BANDAID ON IT AND KEEP HAVING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER.

AND, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE.

THE, THE, THE, THE FREQUENT FLYERS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN, WHEN THEY COME ACROSS THE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S LIVING OUTTA

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THEIR CAR.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T SEE THEM, WE DON'T SEE IT ON THE FRIDAY REPORT.

AND, BUT, BUT, BUT IT HAPPENS.

AND JUST TO GIVE SOME COLOR TO THE, THERE ARE, AND THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT FOLKS.

THERE'S FOLKS THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY THINKING OF ARE HARDER TO REACH.

BUT THERE ARE FOLKS WHEN THEY GO OUT THERE, IT'S NOT JUST GIVE THEM A SANDWICH AND GO ON.

THEY ARE CONNECTING WITH THEM.

THEY'RE BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS AND THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT 'EM IN THEIR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

THEY'RE HELPING THEM WITH THEIR RESUMES.

SO THEY ARE TAKING THAT NEXT STEP THAT WE WANT OF TRYING TO GET THEM BACK, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR LIFE IN ORDER SO THEY CAN MAKE THOSE NEXT STEPS.

UM, AND SO THERE ARE, JUST TO GET SOME CONTEXT TO WHAT THEY DO, AND IT'S REALLY ENLIGHTENING WHEN YOU HEAR THEM KIND OF TALK THROUGH THAT AND, AND AGREE THAT REALLY IS THEIR PHILOSOPHY IS TO BE GIVE PEOPLE A HAND UP, NOT A HANDOUT.

AND THAT'S AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO METRO REQUEST, THAT IS THEIR, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THEY LIVE AND DO THEIR, DO THEIR WORK.

AND, AND RANDY AND I WENT OUT, UM, WITH OFFICER CLOSTER AT THIS, THIS LAST POINT IN TIME AND THAT WAS HELPFUL.

BUT, UM, TO YOUR POINT, WE DIDN'T, UM, THAT NIGHT WAS JUST KIND OF ODD IN, IN RELATIONSHIP TO PREVIOUS NIGHTS I'VE GONE OUT.

UM, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE OCCURRENCES THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

THAT THOSE, THOSE ARE A LOT BETTER, UM, IN, IN UNDERSTANDING HOW DIFFICULT IT IS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE WHATEVER CONNECTIONS THEY CAN WITH THESE FOLKS AND EVERYBODY'S IN, THERE'S A, THERE'S A MILLION DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.

YEAH.

AND I'VE HEARD DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE POINT IN TIME.

IT, IT'S A SNAPSHOT AND UH, YEAH.

IT'S HOW, HOW VALID IT IS IS IS ALWAYS A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, DEPENDS ON THE NIGHT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO, YEAH.

YEAH.

SO, AND YOU KNOW, TO THE POINT OF WHO MIGHT COME IN NEXT YEAR AND ASKING FOR MONEY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS YEAR THOUGH.

I MEAN, UH, NO CRYSTAL BALL, RIGHT? NO CRYSTAL.

THERE MIGHT BE FIVE MORE PEOPLE COME IN NEXT YEAR ASKING ANYBODY MAYBE, UH, WHY THEY DIDN'T COME IN ASKING THIS YEAR ANYBODY'S GUESS.

ISMAIL, DID YOU HAVE ANY LUCK WITH, WAS IT IN THERE? I ADDED WAS AN ADDITIONAL 23.

IT WAS.

OKAY.

THREE HOMELESS.

WE, WE HAD APPROVED THE BUDGET AND THEN WE AMENDED THAT ADDED, WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET PRODUCT, ANOTHER INCREASE AND THEY BUMPED WAS JUST FOR ADDISON OR FOR METRO CREST SERVICES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THE WHOLE HOMELESSNESS.

THEY'RE EARMARKING THE HOME LESSNESS, NOT JUST, THEY DIDN'T PUT 23,000 ASIDE FOR ADDISON HOMELESSNESS.

OKAY.

IT WAS OUR FUNDING.

THAT WAS OUR THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT OUR FUNDING INCREASED BY THAT AMOUNT, RIGHT? YEAH.

CORRECT.

YEAH.

AND THEN METRO CREST SERVICES DOES PROVIDE QUARTERLY GRANT REPORTS TO US.

AND WE DID ASK THEM TO ADD IN SPECIFIC MEASURES TOWARDS HOMELESSNESS.

SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS LAST QUARTER, THREE APRIL THROUGH JUNE.

IT SAYS THEY ASSISTED 51 INDIVIDUALS AND 34 HOUSEHOLDS WITH VARIOUS HOMELESSNESS SERVICES.

SO I CAN SHARE THAT.

OKAY.

COMMITTEE YEAH.

AS WELL.

UM, BUT FROM A NUMBER OF THINGS FROM STREET OUTREACH TO SHOWERS TO, UM, HOMELESSNESS, DIVERSION, TRYING TO CONNECT THEM BACK.

SO IT HAS ALL THE CATEGORIES KIND OF IN SERVICES LISTED OUT.

SO WHAT WAS THE NUMBERS YOU SAID WHILE AGO, PLEASE? AGAIN, 50 AND ONE 50.

AND THAT, THAT LEAVES SOME OF THE BUDGET.

ASSUMING THAT, UH, WE'LL BE TALKING TO OUR ADDIS ARBOR FOUNDATION NEXT YEAR.

YOU WOULDN'T DO 75 AND 1 25? I WOULD NOT, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.

I'D, I'D DO 75 AND ONE 50.

I BET YOU WOULD.

YEAH.

AND I THINK, AND I ACTUALLY LIKE THAT NUMBER.

I, I I, I, I'M, I'M, IF WE DID 75 AND ONE 50, YEAH.

THAT GETS, IT GETS US OVER THAT, THAT CUTS INTO THAT 60 WHATEVER FOR ARBOR.

BUT THE BUDGET CAN BE ADJUSTED NEXT YEAR IF WE, IF WE DECIDE TO DO THAT.

AND THAT'S ALL THAT, THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS YEAR.

YEP.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE.

YEP.

YOU SAID 75 AND ONE 50.

YEAH, I SAID 75 AND 1 25.

COME ON, MARLON.

UM, I, WHATEVER WE DO, I, I THINK IT, IT WOULD HELP ME IF WE, IF WE EARMARKS SOMETHING TO HOMELESSNESS.

'CAUSE I THINK THAT THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

SO, UH, WHETHER IT'S ON PAPER OR, UM, I JUST WANT, I JUST WANT THEM TO DO WHATEVER THEY THINK IS RIGHT WITH IT.

THEY, WELL, I I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG DEAL FOR US, BUT, BUT EARMARKING SAID YOU WANT CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY TO GO TOWARDS.

I'M JUST VERBALLY, I'M VERBALLY COMMUNICATING IT.

SO, UM, THAT, THAT WAS THE THOUGHT I HAD.

UM, YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD DO 75 AND, AND 1 50, 70 5,000 TO JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES AND, AND, AND

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ONE 50 FOR METROCREST SERVICES.

UM, ARE WE STILL UNDER BUDGET? OH YEAH.

40 2001 50.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, I FEEL LIKE I'M MISSING ONE.

ARE WE, HAVE WE GOT IT ALL ON OUR, ON A SUPPLEMENT PAGE? IT LOOKED UP THERE.

WE GOT IT ALL.

AND SO IS THAT EVERYTHING? WHAT IS, UH, 40 2006 29? YEP.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

UM, IS THERE ANY, ANYTHING ELSE UH, FOR NOW? NEGATIVE.

GREAT MEETING EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU FOR, UH, ALL THE HELP AND ALL THE WORK PUT INTO THIS.

IT'S NOT, DO YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE FROM US? NO, I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

NOW THIS IS NOT EASY.

AND SO, UM, THANKS EVERYBODY.

SO THE TIME IS, UH, 6:28 PM AND WE'RE GONNA ADJOURN THE MEETING.

VERY GOOD.