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[1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present.]
EVERYONE.IT IS FIVE OH SIX AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 23RD, 2026 FOR OUR WORK SESSION MEETING.
AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT WITH SIX MEMBERS PRESENT RIGHT NOW.
AND WE HAVE THE, UH, SEVENTH MEMBER WILL BE JOINING US VERY SHORTLY.
[2. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.]
ON THE AGENDA.ITEM NUMBER TWO, PUBLIC COMMENT.
CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.
COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS.
CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW.
THE COUNCIL IS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
I DO HAVE ONE COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARD FROM GUILLERMO QUINTANILLA, WHICH WE'LL CALL MR. QUINTANILLA.
AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AS YOU KNOW.
MY NAME IS GUILLERMO QUINTANILLA, 41 15 RUSH CIRCLE.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE TEXAS PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT AND THE OPEN RECORDS DISCUSSION FROM THE JUNE 9TH COUNCIL MEETING.
I UNDERSTAND THE TOWN HAS A REAL COST AND WORKLOAD ISSUE.
STAFF TIME, LEGAL REVIEW, SOFTWARE, REDACTIONS, AND BROAD EMAIL SEARCHES ALL CREATE EXPENSES.
I SUPPORT BETTER TOOLS AND WORKFLOW, PROACTIVE POSTING OF PRE FREQUENTLY REQUESTED RECORDS AND LAWFUL COST ESTIMATES WHERE ALLOWED.
BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT THE DISCUSSION MOVED BEYOND COST MANAGEMENT AND INTO REQUESTER MOTIVE AND IDENTITY AND PUBLIC EXPOSURE OF PEOPLE WHO USE THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT.
THAT IS A DANGEROUS DIRECTION.
THE TOWN EXTENDS WHEN IT AGREES WITH A REQUESTER.
IT IS A RIGHT CREATED BY THE STATE LAW.
IT EXISTS SO THAT PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AND OFFICIAL ACTS OF PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES.
REQUESTERS SHOULD NOT BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF WHO THEY ARE, WHETHER THEY'RE RESIDENTS, WHETHER THEY FILED MANY REQUESTS, WHETHER COUNCIL AGREES WITH THEIR PURPOSE OR WHETHER THE RECORDS INVOLVE POLITICALLY SENSITIVE ISSUES.
COST TRANSPARENCY IS LEGITIMATE.
THE TOWN CAN AND SHOULD REPORT AGGREGATE INFORMATION, NUMBER OF REQUESTS, GENERAL CATEGORIES, STAFF HOURS, LEGAL COSTS AND SUCH AND SUCH.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE DESCRIBED REQUESTS AS TROLLING, FISHING, EXPEDITION ATTACKS AND IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR THAT COULD REASONABLY BE SEEN AS AN ATTEMPT TO CHILL, DISCOURAGE, OR INTIMIDATE PEOPLE FROM EXERCISING THEIR RIGHTS.
PROTECTED BY LAW COUNCIL AND STAFF SHOULD ESTABLISH CLEAR GUIDELINES BEFORE ANY NEW OPEN RECORDS POLICY IS CONSIDERED.
THIS CAN INCLUDE PROCESS TO ACT REQUEST.
NEUTRALLY AND UNIFORMLY CONFIRM REQUEST OR MOTIVES WILL NOT BE, UH, USED TO DISCOURAGE UNLAWFUL REQUESTS.
KEEP COSTS REPORTING FOCUSED ON AGGREGATE DATA, NOT ON CALLING OUT INDIVIDUALS BEFORE PUBLISHING REQUESTER'S NAME OR PROACTIVE LOGS.
OBTAIN WRITTEN LEGAL GUIDANCE EXPLAINING WHETHER THE PRACTICES REQUIRED OPTIONAL DISCOURAGE OR POTENTIALLY PROBLEMATIC.
FINALLY, I ASKED THE COUNCIL TO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL TRAINING ON THE ACT ITSELF, ESPECIALLY FOR WHAT OFFICIALS SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT SAY ABOUT REQUESTERS.
THIS SOLUTION IS THE SOLUTION IS NOT TO BLAME PEOPLE FOR ASKING QUESTIONS.
THE SOLUTION IS BETTER SYSTEMS, BETTER TRAINING, PROACTIVE DISCLOSURE, AND A RENEWED COMMITMENT TO TRANSPARENCY.
OPEN GOVERNMENT COSTS MONEY, SO DO ELECTIONS AUDITS, LEGAL REVIEW COUNCIL MEETINGS.
ACCOUNTABILITY IS PART OF THE COST OF REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT.
PLEASE PROTECT BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE.
MANAGE THE WORKLOAD RESPONSIBLY, BUT ALSO PROTECT THE RIGHT OF THE PUBLIC.
UH, THAT'S THE LAST COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARD I HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? ALRIGHT,
[3. Council Member Clarification Requests Regarding Consent Agenda Items.]
SEEING NONE, WE WILL END THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.REQUEST REGARDING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. UH, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION NEEDED FROM COUNSEL ON THE CONSENT ITEMS? NO.
UH, COUNSEL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ON THREE A.
THE COUNSEL, UH, FREQUENTLY SENDS IN QUESTIONS TO STAFF REGARDING, UH, ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
THOSE ITEMS, THOSE QUESTIONS ARE UH, ANSWERED AND PUT INTO A SINGLE DOCUMENT AND THEN SENT OUT TO COUNSEL AHEAD OF TIME.
THAT SAME DOCUMENT IS UPLOADED TO OUR WEBSITE.
UH, SO ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THAT SAME DOCUMENT BY GOING TO THE TOWN WEBSITE ADDISON TX.GOV AND FIND THE AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING.
AND THERE'LL BE A LINK IN THE AGENDA WITHIN THE AGENDA ITSELF, UH, FOR THEM TO DOWNLOAD THAT SAME DOCUMENT.
[4. Closed Meeting. The Addison City Council will enter a Closed Meeting pursuant to Texas Government Code Sections 551-071 through 090 to discuss the following item(s):]
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, CLOSED MEETING.THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL WILL ENTER A, UH, CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT
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CODE SECTIONS 5 51 DASH 0 7 1 THROUGH 0 9 0 TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS FOR A PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.087 SECTIONS ONE AND TWO DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS TO DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE REGARDING COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT OR BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE, STAY, OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE TERRITORY OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON, AND WITH WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OR TO DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO SUCH BUSINESS PROSPECT OR BUSINESS PROSPECTS.AND THAT ITEM IS PROJECT SNYDER.
AND THEN FOUR B PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.071 CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY COUN CITY ATTORNEY COUNSEL REGARDING THE GENERAL MOBILITY PROGRAM, GMP INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT PROPOSED BY DART AND ONGOING CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS RELATED THERETO.
AND THEN ITEM FOUR C PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 0.071, CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, STANDARDS AND PROCEDURES RELATED TO THE APPOINTMENT AND REMOVAL OF MEMBERS OF THE, OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, INCLUDING APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF THE CHARTER CODE OF ORDINANCES AND TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
IT IS FIVE 12 AND WE'LL GO INTO CLOSE SESSION AT THIS TIME.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PERTAINING DIRECTLY TO THESE ITEMS, WE'LL UH, ASK YOU TO.
[5. Open Meeting. In accordance with Texas Government Code Chapter 551, the Addison City Council will reconvene in an Open Meeting to consider action, if any, on the matters discussed in the Closed Meeting.]
EVERYBODY.IT IS 7 0 5 AND WE'LL RE RECONVENE THE COUNCIL OUT OF OUR CLOSED SESSION AND INTO OUR OPEN SESSION AT 7:05 PM AND THERE'S NO ACTION FOR THE COUNCIL TO BE TAKEN FROM THE CLOSED SESSION.
AND AT THIS TIME WE WILL, UH, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, POSTPONE OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS SIX A, B, AND C UNTIL THE END OF OUR, UNTIL AFTER OUR REGULAR MEETING.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE RIGHT INTO OUR REGULAR MEETING AT THIS TIME.
AND AS ALWAYS, WE WOULD LIKE TO START THE MEETING WITH THE PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS.
IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE AS YOU'RE ABLE.
I PLEDGE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I PLEA ALLEGIANCE TO LEAD TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
[2. Proclamations / Presentations]
NUMBER TWO, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS TWO, A CITY MANAGERS ANNOUNCEMENTS AND TWO B EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION.A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT, ADDISON KABOOM TOWN IS JUST 10 DAYS AWAY.
JOIN US IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK OR YOUR FAVORITE RESTAURANT FOR ONE OF THE TOP FIVE FIREWORKS SHOWS IN THE COUNTRY.
MAKE SURE TO GRAB YOUR SPOT EARLY TO ENJOY THE ADDISON AIRPORT AIR SHOW FEATURING HISTORIC WAR BOARDS, STUNT FLIGHTS AND MORE.
THE AIR SHOW BEGINS AT SEVEN 30 AND THE FIREWORKS START AT NINE 30.
FIND ALL THE DETAILS@ADDISONKABOOMTOWN.COM.
WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE RESIDENTS WHO ARE SERVING OR HAVE SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES TO PARTICIPATE IN A HOMETOWN HEROES ART EXHIBITION, ART EXHIBIT AT TOWN HALL THIS JULY.
ADDISON, RESIDENTS INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING SHOULD SUBMIT THEIR NAME, BRANCH OF SERVICE, CONTACT INFORMATION, AND DIGITAL PHOTO TO MARKETING@ADDISONTX.GOV BY JUNE 29TH.
AND FINALLY, ADDISON OFFICES ARE CLOSED ON FRIDAY, JUNE 3RD FOR INDEPENDENCE DAY.
HOWEVER, THE, A ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB AND OUTDOOR POOL WILL BE OPEN NORMAL HOURS.
THE CLUB WILL BE CLOSED ON SATURDAY, JULY 4TH, BUT THE OUTDOOR POOL WILL BE OPEN FROM NOON TO 8:00 PM THOSE ARE ALL OF OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS WILL GO TO EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION AND I'LL ASK ABBY TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE SOME OF OUR NEWEST EMPLOYEES.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
ABBY MORALES, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEATER.
WE HAVE TWO OF OUR NEW STAFF MEMBERS HERE TODAY, AND WE'LL START WITH SETH.
UM, HE'S A COMMITTED AND ENERGETIC MEMBER OF OUR TEAM WHOSE PASSION FOR EVENTS, ENTHUSIASM FOR COMMUNITY, AND GENUINE LOVE FOR PEOPLE, MAKE HIM A STANDOUT ADDITION TO ADDISON.
SETH GREW UP IN PLANO, TEXAS AND LATER GRADUATED FROM FARMERSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL WHERE THE EXPERIENCE HELD SPECIAL MEANING BECAUSE HIS MOTHER ACTUALLY TAUGHT SCHOOL THERE.
SETH WENT ON TO EARN A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN RECREATION EVENT AND SPORT MANAGEMENT FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS.
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ALICIA, ARE PROUD PARENTS TO THEIR DAUGHTER AMELIA, WHO ARE BOTH HERE THIS EVENING, WHO RECENTLY JUST TURNED THREE MONTHS OLD.SHE MIGHT BE THE YOUNGEST THAT AT A COUNCIL MEETING YET
SETH IS AN AVID DALLAS STARS FAN AND A SELF-PROCLAIMED TRAINED ENTHUSIAST.
SETH OFTEN JOKES THAT APPLYING TO ADDISON WAS PARTLY INSPIRED BY WANTING TO WATCH THE DART SILVER LINE GO BY A FUN GLIMPSE INTO HIS PERSONALITY AND INTERESTS.
SETH PATH TO ADDISON BEGAN WITH AN APPRECIATION FOR THE WORLD OF SPECIAL EVENTS.
DURING AN INTERNSHIP WITH THE CITY OF ALLEN, SETH DISCOVERED A LOVE FOR TEAMWORK AND PROBLEM SOLVING BEHIND EVENT COORDINATION.
LATER AT THE CITY OF PLANO, SETH HELPED LAUNCHED A VERY NEW EVENT, GLOW IN THE DARK PICKLEBALL.
THIS EXPERIENCE REQUIRED ADAPTABILITY, FAST THINKING, AND CREATIVE PLANNING, AND BECAME A PROFESSIONAL ACCOMPLISHMENT.
SETH IS PARTICULARLY PROUD OF WHAT DREW SETH TO ADDISON WAS THE TOWN'S REPUTATION FOR EXCEPTIONAL LARGE SCALE EVENTS, THE KIND OF ENVIRONMENT WHERE INNOVATION, CREATIVITY, AND COMMUNITY CONNECTION COME TOGETHER.
SETH BELIEVES STRONGLY IN TRYING NEW IDEAS TO STAND OUT IN A CROWDED EVENT LANDSCAPE, ESPECIALLY WITH SO MANY CHOICES ACROSS THE METROPLEX.
WHEN ASKED WHAT THE ADDISON WAY MEANS, SETH SHARED INNOVATION IS KEY.
FINDING NEW APPROACHES, EMBRACING FRESH IDEAS, AND CREATING MEMORABLE EXPERIENCES THAT SET, SET ADDISON APART.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING SETH AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEET VALERIE SEALEY, A DEDICATED MEMBER OF OUR TEAM WHOSE POSITIVE ENERGY APPRECIATION FOR COMMUNITY AND PASSION FOR SERVICE MAKE HER A STANDOUT ADDITION TO THE ADDISON TEAM, VALERIE GREW UP IN MURPHY, TEXAS AFTER BEING BORN IN FLORIDA, AND PROUDLY GRADUAT GRADUATED FROM WILEY HIGH SCHOOL BEFORE EARNING AN ASSOCIATE OF ARTS DEGREE FROM COLLIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
VALERIE AND HER HUSBAND SETH WERE MARRIED LAST YEAR, NOT THIS SETH, ANOTHER SETH
WHILE THEY DON'T YET HAVE CHILDREN OR PETS, VALERIE'S LOVE FOR ANIMALS AND THE LIKELIHOOD OF FUTURE FUNNY FAMILY MEMBERS IS ALREADY WELL ESTABLISHED, INFLUENCED BY A CHICAGO BORN AUNT VALERIE.
SETH IS A LAKERS FAN BY ASSOCIATION.
VALERIE'S JOURNEY TO ADDISON BEGAN WITH AN ADMIRATION FOR THE TOWN'S SPECTACULAR EVENTS AND THE TEAMWORK THAT GOES BEHIND THEM, BELIEVING THAT ADDISON IS THE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COME TOGETHER TO CREATE SOMETHING TRULY IMPACTFUL.
VALERIE APPLIED WITH HOPEFUL CURIOSITY AND WAS THRILLED TO JOIN THE ORGANIZATION PROFESSIONALLY.
VALERIE IS PROUD OF BEING RECOGNIZED WITH AN EXCELLENCE AWARD FROM A FORMER CITY PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR FOR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE ANNUAL CHRISTMAS EVENT.
IT WAS HER FIRST LARGE SCALE EVENT, AND THE EXPERIENCE SOLIDIFIED A LOVE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, NOT JUST FOR THE OUTCOME, BUT FOR THE COLLABORATION EFFORT AND ALL OF THE HEART THAT WENT INTO IT.
ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, VALERIE IS INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN HER HEALTH SINCE HIGH SCHOOL, CHANGES THAT HAVE BROUGHT INDEPENDENCE, HAPPINESS, AND A RENEWED SENSE OF FAITH.
SHE CREDITS GOD FOR CARRYING THEM THROUGH THAT CHAPTER AND EXPRESSES HER DEEP GRATITUDE FOR THE BLESSINGS IN LIFE DAILY.
VALERIE BRINGS UNIQUE CULTURAL AND CREATIVE INTERESTS AS WELL WITH A MOTHER FROM SWITZERLAND.
SHE GREW UP VISITING FAMILY ABROAD AND IS FLUENT IN FRENCH.
A LOVE FOR BALLROOM DANCING AND AN ENDEARING FASCINATION WITH GUINEA PIGS ADDS DELIGHTFUL PERSONALITY TO VALERIE'S STORY.
WHEN ASKED WHAT THE ADDISON WAY MEANS, VALERIE SHARED BEING RESPECTFUL TO OTHERS, PRODUCING QUALITY WORK AND RECOGNIZING THAT TRUE SUCCESS COMES FROM THE COLLECTIVE OF A TEAM OF A TEAM.
IT TAKES PATIENCE, POSITIVITY, AND DEDICATION TO ACHIEVE SOMETHING ME MEANINGFUL TOGETHER.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING VALERIE.
THANK YOU, ABBY, SETH, AND VALERIE.
WE'RE REALLY GLAD Y'ALL ARE HERE.
[3. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.]
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENTS.CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.
COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS.
CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW.
THE COUNCIL'S NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON THE FUTURE AGENDA.
I HAVE ONLY HAVE ONE COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARD, SO I WILL CALL TRISH STEWART AT THIS TIME.
AND IF YOU'LL PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
HELLO, MAYOR COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, TRISH STEWART.
1 5 7 5 5 SEA BOLT, THIS FOURTH.
WE'RE NOT CELEBRATING FIREWORKS.
WE'RE CELEBRATING RIGHTS THAT MANY FOUGHT AND DIED FOR, AND OUR GOVERNMENT WAS CREATED TO PROTECT THOSE RIGHTS.
SO AS I THINK ABOUT THE BILL OF RIGHTS, I'M REMINDED OF OUR HOME RULE CHARTER, WHICH PROTECTS OUR LOCAL CONTROL.
JUST AS OUR CONSTITUTION PROTECTS CITIZENS FROM GOVERNMENT OVERREACH, OUR
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ADDISON CHARTER PROTECTS OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES' RIGHTS AND CITIZENS SHOULD BE A PART OF THE PROCESS, ESPECIALLY REGARDING MILLIONS DEDICATED TO LOCAL NEEDS.FOR DECADES, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON OUR SALES TAX.
SO THEREFORE, I'M GRATEFUL THAT THE RIGHT TO VOTE WAS RESTORED THIS PAST ELECTION.
AND I HOPE IT'S NOT THE LAST BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED.
I HEARD SOMEONE SAY WE SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD THE RIGHT TO VOTE BECAUSE IT CREATED DISAGREEMENTS.
BUT DISAGREEMENT ISN'T THE PROBLEM.
AS EVERY CITIZEN HAS A RIGHT TO RESPECTFUL OPINION.
IT WAS THE DISRESPECT OF THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH THAT WAS THE PROBLEM.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH DOESN'T MEAN THE RIGHT TO BULLY, INTIMIDATE, OR LIE, AND ADDISON DID DESERVE BETTER HEARING.
THIS WAS A REMINDER OF HOW CRUCIAL IT IS TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS' RIGHTS.
AND SO THEREFORE, I ASKED FOR A CITIZEN REVIEW OF OUR TOWN CHARTER.
THIS INCLUDES FOUR KEY ISSUES.
ONE STRONGER OVERSIGHT FOR ITEMS SUCH AS DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS FOR TOWN OFFICIALS, ELECTED OR APPOINTED MUNICIPAL ADVISORS, DEPOSITORY BANKS, AND ALL FINANCIAL MATTERS INCLUDING CONTRACTS.
TWO, REQUIRED BACKGROUND CHECKS AND PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF CRIMINAL, LEGAL, AND BANKRUPTCY HISTORIES FOR CANDIDATES AND ELECTIONS.
THREE, PROTECT OUR NONPARTISAN MUNICIPAL ELECTION IN MAY TO ESTABLISH A CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN NATIONAL AND LOCAL.
AND FOUR, FINALLY, OUR ADDISON VOTERS NEED COUNCIL DISTRICTS ESTABLISHED TO TRULY REPRESENT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND TO THAT POINT, I WANNA THANK HOWARD FREE FOR LISTENING AND REPRESENTING MY NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS THAT WENT ON FOR MANY YEARS WITHOUT ANY ACTION.
HOWARD REPRESENTED THE PRINCIPLE THAT CITIZENS DESERVE A VOICE IN DECISIONS THAT AFFECT THEIR HOMES.
AND HE REPRESENTED CITIZENS WHO CAME WITH CONCERNS, NOT BIG MONEY OR HIS OWN PERSONAL INTERESTS.
AND HE TREATED PEOPLE WITH DIGNITY EVEN WHENEVER OPINIONS DIFFERED.
HIS SERVICE ON COUNSEL EMBODIED THE RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS WE CELEBRATE AS AMERICANS, AND I HOPE HE WILL CONSIDER SERVING US AGAIN.
SO ON OUR NATION'S 250TH BIRTHDAY, LET'S ENSURE THAT OUR TOWN CHARTER PROTECTS ADDISON CITIZENS FOR DECADES TO COME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND GOD BLESS YOU AND AMERICA.
I DIDN'T MEAN GOD BLESS YOU, BUT GOD BLESS AMERICA.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME?
[4. Consent Agenda. All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]
ALL RIGHT.SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THAT ITEM AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
CONSENT TONIGHT INCLUDES ITEMS FOUR A THROUGH FOUR C.
IS THERE A MOTION? MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOUR A THROUGH FOUR C.
THANK YOU MARLON AND UH, DAN FOR THE SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[5.a. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving an agreement with All American Dogs to provide for the sheltering of animals and other related services to the Town of Addison Animal Services and authorizing the City Manager to execute an agreement in an amount not to exceed $250,000.]
A PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH ALL AMERICAN DOGS TO PROVIDE FOR THE SHELTERING OF ANIMALS AND OTHER RELATED SERVICES TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON ANIMAL SERVICES.AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT IN AN, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $250,000.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL RAY MENDEZ.
TODAY WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES SHELTER FOR OUR, UH, ANIMAL POPULATION HERE IN ADDISON.
BY THE WAY, WE DO HAVE MR. BOB MATTHEWS HERE FROM ALL AMERICAN DOGS.
UH, HE'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UM, IF YOU WISH LATER ON THIS, THIS EVENING.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, WITH THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT WAS EXPANDED TO INCLUDE A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DIVISION.
THE, THE BUDGET FUNDED NEW PERSONNEL EQUIPMENT AND OTHER RESOURCES.
THIS EXPANSION ALSO INCLUDED THE TRANSFER OF ANIMAL SERVICES FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
ONE OF THE FIRST ORDERS OF BUSINESS FOR ANIMAL SERVICES UNDER DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES WAS TO CLARIFY AND REDEFINE SOME OF OUR OPERATING PROCEDURES.
PART OF THAT PROCESS INCLUDED A REVISION OF OUR ANIMAL SERVICES ORDINANCE.
AND IF YOU RECALL, THAT WAS COMPLETED UH, IN THE FALL OF LAST YEAR.
AND NOW OUR TEAM IS FOCUSED ON THE ANIMAL SHELTERING COMPONENT IN ORDER FOR US TO BETTER MANAGE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHELTERING AND MEDICAL INTAKE OF OUR ANIMALS.
CURRENTLY, OUR PROCEDURE IS AS FOLLOWS.
UH, WE IDENTIFY AVAILABLE MEDICAL AND SHELTERING SERVICES FROM VARIOUS PRIVATE AND MUNICIPAL PARTNERS, AS WELL AS OTHER RESCUE PROVIDERS, UH, IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE AND REDUCE SHELTERING EXPENSES.
AGAIN, AVAILABILITY IS DEPENDENT UPON THE PROVIDER AND THE TOWN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR TRANSPORTING THE ANIMALS.
UH, THEY TREAT AND SHELTER ANIMALS AS NECESSARY AND AVAILABLE WHILE ADHERING TO THE STRAIGHT HOLD TIMES FOR PER STATE LAW.
UH, WE ALSO PROCESS OWNER RECLAMATIONS AND OUT ALLOW ANIMALS TO BECOME AVAILABLE FOR ADOPTION IF THEY'RE NOT RECLAIMED AFTER THE STRAY HOLD TIME.
THE TOWN DOES CONTINUE TO PAY SHELTERING AND MEDICAL COSTS UNTIL ALL THESE ANIMALS ARE ADOPTED.
THE TOWN CURRENTLY PROVIDES ITS OWN IN-HOUSE ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES.
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OF ANIMALS IS CONTRACTED TO THIRD PARTY OPERATORS THROUGH A VARIETY OF FACILITIES, INCLUDING VETERINARY CLINICS, BOARDING FACILITIES, RESCUES, AND NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITIES.STAFF HAS ENCOUNTERED DIFFICULTY IN PLACING ANIMALS FROM TIME TO TIME BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF SPACE OR CAPACITY CONCERNS.
SINCE APRIL OF 26, OUR STAFF HAS UTILIZED ALL AMERICAN EXCLUSIVELY FOR IMPOUNDED ANIMALS ON A MONTH-TO-MONTH BASIS IN ORDER TO ASSESS OPERATIONS PRIOR TO ENTERING INTO A LONG-TERM CONTRACT.
ALL AMERICAN IS THE ONLY SERVICE PROVIDER WITHIN DFW IN THE NORTH TEXAS REGION TO PROVIDE EXCLUSIVE MEDICAL AND SHELTERING CARE FOR DOMESTICATED ANIMALS.
PARTNERING WITH ALL AMERICAN ALSO ALLOWS OUR STAFF ADDITIONAL TIME TO FOCUS ON OTHER SERVICES, WHICH INCLUDE INCREASE INCREASED PATROLS IN OUR PARKING, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, MANAGING URBAN WILDLIFE, REMOVING DECEASED ANIMALS FROM THE ROADWAYS, RESPONDING TO COMPLAINTS FOR LOUD BARKING AND INVESTIGATION OF ANIMAL BITE CASES AND ANIMAL CRUELTY AND NEGLECT CASES AS WELL.
UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, UH, THESE ARE ANIMAL INTAKES GOING BACK TO THE YEAR 2023.
IN 2023, WE HAD 223 ANIMALS THAT WERE IMPOUNDED.
THAT NUMBER WENT DOWN TO 192 IN 24, IT WENT UP TO 2, 2 70 LAST YEAR.
AND CURRENTLY, YEAR TO DATE, WE'RE AT ABOUT 1 53, WHICH WOULD EQUATE TO APPROXIMATELY CLOSE TO 300 BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE ON SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE DEAL WITH AT ANIMAL SERVICES, UM, IN ADDITION TO, UH, PICKING UP STRAY OR AT LARGE ANIMALS AND IMPOUNDING THOSE AND, UH, PROVIDING SHELTER FOR THEM, UH, ARE OFFICERS ARE VERY BUSY DURING THE COURSE OF THE DAY.
UH, ANSWERING PHONE CALLS, DEALING WITH COMPLAINTS FOR AGGRESSIVE DOGS, ANIMALS THAT ARE LOCKED IN VEHICLES, ANIMALS AT LARGE, UH, BITE AND CRUELTY INVESTIGATIONS, UH, REMOVING DECEASED ANIMALS FROM THE ROADWAY, UH, RESPONDING TO NUISANCE COMPLAINTS IN ADDITION TO THEIR REGULAR PATROLS OF PARKS, UM, AND, UH, AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, WE ALSO ASSIST PD WHENEVER, UH, THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL THAT'S, UH, GOING TO BE INCARCERATED.
IF THEY'RE IN POSSESSION OF AN ANIMAL, UH, WE'LL GO OUT AND HANDLE THAT FOR THEM AS WELL AND TAKE THAT ANIMAL INTO OUR CUSTODY.
UH, AND ALSO WE ALSO DEAL WITH, UH, WILDLIFE ISSUES FROM TIME TO TIME AS WELL.
UH, BEFORE WE GO INTO THE, UM, ISSUE REGARDING HOW WE ARRIVED AT, UH, THE SHELTERING AGREEMENT WITH ALL AMERICAN, WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO LOOK AT SOME OF OUR COMPARATOR CITIES AND WHAT IN FACT THEY'RE DOING, UH, WITH REGARD TO ANIMAL CONTROL AND SHELTERING AS WELL.
SO, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, MOST OF THE CITIES, OR IF NOT ALL OF 'EM, DO PROVIDE THEIR OWN IN-HOUSE ANIMAL CONTROL.
AND SOME DO HAVE THEIR OWN IN-HOUSE SHELTERS, WHILE OTHERS, UH, CONTRACT OUT EITHER THROUGH, THROUGH A THIRD PARTY OR AS THE CASE WITH ALLEN AND MCKINNEY.
THEY WORK CLOSELY WITH COLLIN COUNTY TO HANDLE THEIR IMPOUNDED ANIMALS.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, COST ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH THAT IN TERMS OF PERSONNEL COSTS, AS WELL AS SHELTERING COSTS.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE COMPARISONS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF FTES AS WELL AS THE IMPOUNDED ANIMALS.
YOU'LL NOTE THAT OUR NUMBERS ARE THE LOWEST ONES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF UNIVERSITY PARK, WHICH ONLY HAD ABOUT 42 ANIMALS.
UH, STAFF EXPLORED SEVERAL OPTIONS, UH, BEFORE DECIDING TO PURSUE THIS AGREEMENT.
UH, AMONG THOSE OPTIONS, WE LOOKED AT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
HOWEVER, THOSE OPTIONS WERE KIND OF LIMITED BECAUSE OF CAPACITY AND SPACE LIMITATION CONCERNS.
CITIES THAT THE STAFF ATTEMPTED TO PARTNER WITH INCLUDED THE COLONY, UH, GRAPEVINE, PLANO, LEWISVILLE, FLOWER MOUND, CARROLLTON, AND RICHARDSON.
WE DID, IN FACT, RECEIVE A PROPOSAL FROM THE CITY OF RICHARDSON, BUT THE COST WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER, UH, THAN WHAT WE WERE INCURRING AT THE TIME, USING A DIFFERENT THIRD PARTY PROVIDER.
UH, A TOWN OPERATOR OPERATED SHELTER WAS REVIEWED AS A POSSIBILITY.
AND THAT OPTION SHOWN, UH, FROM A CAPITAL COST PERSPECTIVE.
ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDE, USING THE CITY OF SAXE AS AN EXAMPLE.
UM, THE REASON WE USE SAXE IS THAT IT'S THE CITY THAT MOST CLOSELY RESEMBLES ADDISON IN TERMS OF OVERALL SIZE AND POPULATION, UH, WHICH HAD MOST RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED THE SHELTER.
UH, FOR FY 25, UH, THEIR NUMBER OF INTAKES WAS ABOUT 5 22, WHICH WAS ALMOST, UH, A LITTLE BIT, ALMOST DOUBLE, UH, OF OURS.
UH, THE FACILITY OPENED IN 25 AT A COST AT APPROXIMATELY $5.4 MILLION, WHICH WAS FUNDED THROUGH A 2021 BOND PROGRAM.
UH, THE ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT WAS RON HOBBS AND THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER WITH STEEL AND FREEMAN INCORPORATED.
THE FACILITY IS APPROXIMATELY ALMOST 5,800 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE AND HAS APPROXIMATELY 29 KENNELS, INCLUDING ISOLATION, ISOLATION SPACE FOR QUARANTINES, AND ALSO FEATURES EXPANDED CAT SPACES, MEET AND GREET AREAS, AND DEDICATED EXERCISE AREAS
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AS WELL.UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, HISTORY ON, UH, ALL AMERICAN DOGS, UH, ALL AMERICAN IS A PRIVATELY OWNED PROVIDER OF ANIMAL CONTROL AND CODE ENFORCEMENT SERVICES, WHICH PROVIDES SERVICES TO OVER 35 MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT THE DFW AREA.
THEY'VE BEEN WORKING IN NORTH TEXAS FOR WELL OVER 16 YEARS, AND SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE CURRENTLY INCLUDE AUBREY ARGA, CRUMB LAKE, DALLAS, NORTH LAKE, PILOT POINT, AND SANGER.
UH, THE, THE EMPLOYEES AND VOLUNTEERS ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT, WHAT THEY DO.
AND, UH, IN ADDITION TO OPERATING ALL AMERICAN DOGS, THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN 5 0 1 C3, WHICH IS MOUTHS OF HOPE.
AND IT'S A NONPROFIT, UH, AGENCY THAT WAS, UH, BASICALLY CREATED TO PROVIDE CARE AND TO FIND HOMES FOR SURRENDERED ANIMALS OR, OR SURRENDERED PETS AND FOUND ANIMALS.
UH, THEY WERE CLOSELY WITH ALL AMERICAN TO BOOST THEIR ADOPTION, UH, ABILITY WITH THE GOAL OF GETTING ALL THESE ANIMALS INTO FOREVER HOMES.
THE, UH, PROCEDURE INTAKE USING ALL AMERICAN WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
THEY WILL ASSUME CARE OF ALL ANIMALS UPON INTAKE.
ALL AMERICAN WILL TREAT AND SHELTER ANIMALS AS NECESSARY WHILE THE TOWN RETAINS CUSTODY UNTIL THE CONCLUSION OF THE STRAY HOLD PERIOD PER STATE LAW.
AFTER THE STRAY HOLD PERIOD EXPIRES, ALL AMERICAN ASSUMES CUSTODY OF THE ANIMALS AND PLACES THEM FOR ADOPTION THROUGH THEIR NONPROFIT MOUTHS OF HOPE.
THE TOWN WILL NOT PAY ANY ADDITIONAL FEES AFTER THE STRAY HOLD, UH, PERIOD EXPIRES.
UH, ANIMALS ARE TAKEN IN INTO TOWN CUSTODY.
OUR STAFF CONTRACTS WITH THE PROVIDERS.
THIS, UH, THIS IS KIND OF A REVIEW OF HOW WE DID THINGS PREVIOUSLY.
UH, OUR STAFF WOULD CONTRACT WITH THIRD PARTY PROVIDERS TO SEEK AVAILABILITY.
AND THE COST IS DEPENDENT UPON THE DIFFERENT PROVIDER.
A STAFF WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR TRANSFERRING THE ANIMALS TO THE THIRD PARTY PROVIDER FOR MEDICAL INTAKE AND SHELTERING.
AND THE TOWN WOULD RETAIN CUSTODY OF THE ANIMAL AND WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY ONGOING SHELTERING AND MEDICAL COSTS UNTIL THE ANIMAL IS ADOPTED OR RECLAIMED.
UNDER THE NEW CONTRACT, ALL THE ANIMALS WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO ALL AMERICAN UPON INTAKE.
UH, AND ANY COSTS WILL BE PREDETERMINED VIA THE CONTRACT.
UH, ANIMALS ARE TRANSFERRED TO ALL AMERICAN IF THE TOWN RETAINS CUSTODY ONLY DURING THE STRAY HOLE PERIOD.
AND THEN ONCE THAT PERIOD AGAIN EXPIRES, ALL AMERICAN WILL ASSUME CUSTODY OF THE ANIMALS, UH, AND, UH, PUT THEM UP FOR ADOPTION AND THE TOWN WILL HAVE NO FURTHER OBLIGATION.
SO, UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, UH, THIS IS A PRO, UH, THE PROPOSED FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT WITH ALL AMERICAN WILL INCLUDE SHELTERING SERVICES AT A MONTHLY FEE OF 12,500.
FOR UP TO TWO THOU, 200 ANIMALS PER YEAR, UH, ANY ADDITIONAL IMPOUNDED ANIMALS WILL BE HOUSED BY ALL AMERICAN FOR A FLAT FEE OF 3 75 PER ANIMAL.
THE AGREEMENT WILL ALSO INCLUDE TWO WEEKS OF ON-CALL COVERAGE PER MONTH WITH TWO CALLOUTS PER MONTH.
THIS IS AN INCREASE OF THE ONE WEEK PER MONTH THAT WE, UH, HAVE WITH THEM.
CURRENTLY, ALTHOUGH ALL AMERICANS LOCATED IN PILOT PILOT POINT, THEY'VE AGREED TO A TRANSFER POINT IN FRISCO FOR OUR OFFICERS TO DELIVER THE ANIMALS TO BE SHELTERED.
AND THIS WILL ALLOW OUR OFFICERS TO RETURN BACK TO THEIR FIELD ACTIVITIES.
UH, WITHOUT TOO MUCH DELAY, ALL AMERICAN WILL ALSO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SERVICES SUCH AS DOG QUARANTINE, PROTECTIVE CUSTODY, DANGEROUS DOG HOLES, AND ADDITIONAL, UH, SERVICES, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COSTS OUTLINED IN THE AGREEMENT.
AND ANY FEES THAT AREN'T COVERED UNDER THE ALL INCLUSIVE AGREEMENT WILL REQUIRE PRIVATE APPROVAL BY OUR STAFF.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK BREAKDOWN, UH, THE BASE CONTRACT IS, UH, THE $12,500 MONTHLY FEE, WHICH EQUATES TO $150,000 PER YEAR FOR 200 INTAKES.
UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, THEY'VE ASKED US TO PROVIDE THEM WITH $75,000 TO ASSIST IN THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF NEW KENNELS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ALL OF OUR ANIMALS.
UH, THAT COST IS GONNA BE BROKEN DOWN, UH, IN THE AMOUNT OF $25,000 PER YEAR FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF THE CONTRACT.
AND THAT'LL BE PAYABLE, UM, IN ANY WAY, UH, THAT WE WANT TO DO THAT.
WE CAN EITHER PAY THAT IN A LUMP SUM, PARTIAL PAYMENTS, OR WE CAN BREAK IT DOWN IN A MONTHLY FEE TO BE ADDED TO THE 12,500.
UH, THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES ARE ONLY PAID IF, IF USED, UH, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE QUARANTINE AND MEDICAL SERVICES OF UP TO $28,000.
AND ADDITIONAL INTAKES OF UP TO $30,000 BASED ON, UH, 80 ADDITIONAL ANIMALS AT THE $375 RATE ON-CALL SUPPORT, WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 17,000 IF AND WHEN THAT, THAT IS NEEDED, UH, FOR A NOT TO, NOT TO EXCEED SOME OF $250,000, UH, THE TOWN MAY TERMINATE THE CONTRACT WITH ALL AMERICAN AT ANY TIME WITH 30 DAYS NOTICE.
AND LIKEWISE, UH, ALL AMERICAN CAN, UH, TERMINATE AS WELL WITH THE SAME 30 DAY NOTICE.
AND PAYMENT IS ONLY DUE FOR SERVICES USED UP TO THE TERMINATION DATE.
UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, IF WE DO NOT, UH, EXCEED THE, UH, IF WE DON'T REACH THE NOT EXCEED AMOUNT OF 250,
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THE TOWN COULD REALIZE A POTENTIAL SAVINGS OF ABOUT $25,000 IN COMPARISON TO WHAT WE SPENT ALREADY.UH, AND IF, UH, WE DON'T USE ANY OF THOSE ADDITIONAL SERVICES, UM, THE POTENTIAL FOR ADDITIONAL SAVINGS COULD BE INCREASED AS WELL.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT WITH ALL AMERICAN IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $250,000.
UH, BEFORE I TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE OUR STAFF AS WELL.
UH, I DO HAVE HERE WITH ME, MIGUEL, UH, ANA, WHO IS OUR ANIMAL SERVICES SUPERVISOR, AND OMAR ARMANDO, WHO'S OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES MANAGER.
OMAR, HAS TAKEN ON THE ADDITIONAL DUTY OF OVERSEEING, UH, ANIMAL SERVICES IN ADDITION TO CODE COMPLIANCE.
AND, UH, THESE C GENTLEMEN HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB IN ENSURING, UH, THAT WE'VE, UH, TAKEN THIS DEPARTMENT AND PROGRESS IT, UH, FORWARD, UH, IN, IN ADDITION TO PRO PROVIDING BASIC ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES.
AS YOU CAN TELL FROM THE, UH, INFORMATION I PROVIDED WITH THE METRICS, UH, WE'RE DOING A LOT MORE IN TERMS OF, UH, OUTREACH AND, UH, GETTING OUT THERE IN THE FIELD, PROVIDING ADDITIONAL PATROLS, INVESTIGATING BIDEN AND CRUELTY CASES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO I APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THEM.
BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? I'M SORRY, RAY.
I, I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS, BUT HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING WITH ALL AMERICAN? HOW LONG HAS THE, THE TOWN BEEN WORKING THE TOWN? UH, FIVE YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH 'EM ON AND OFF.
UM, PROBABLY WHAT, LIKE 10 YEARS? 10 YEARS.
AND HAS THIS, UM, EVER WENT OUT TO BID FOR ANOTHER, UH, COMPANY TO DO THIS? OR WE'VE JUST ALWAYS, NO, THIS WAS MORE OF A SOLE SOURCE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THERE'S NOT REALLY ANYONE THAT DOES THIS TYPE OF SERVICE.
THERE'S OTHER ENTITIES OUT THERE, BUT THEY'RE MORE MORE FOCUSED ON WILDLIFE THAN DOMESTICATED ANIMALS.
AND THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION WITH THE WILDLIFE.
I KNOW THERE'S A COY RUNNING AROUND TOWN MM-HMM
UM, HOW DO WE, HAVE WE CAPTURED THAT? BECAUSE I SAW THE NUMBERS WHERE YOU SAID, UH, WE HAD SO MANY WILDLIFE.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, ON THE QUARTERLY CALL REPORT? YES.
SO FOR THE FIRST QUARTER WE HAD, UH, 13.
AND ON THE SECOND QUARTER IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE AT ABOUT 24.
THAT'S MAINLY BEEN LIKE SKUNKS, RACCOONS, POSSIBLY.
CHRIS? SO, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT'S HERE TONIGHT FROM AN ANIMAL SERVICES.
TWO WEEKS AGO, UH, MY FAMILY WAS TRAVELING, OUR DAUGHTER WAS GETTING MARRIED, AND OUR DOG GOT OUT.
UM, IT WAS GREAT, UM, TO KNOW THAT YOU GUYS WERE ON IT.
YOU, YOU FOUND OUR DOG GOT IT.
UM, SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT 'CAUSE IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
UH, I, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
UM, SO THE VENDOR'S OUT IN PILOT POINT, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A, A RALLY POINT FOR OUR OFFICERS IN FRISCO.
UM, IF IF SOMEONE, IF SOMEONE'S DOG IS PICKED UP AND TAKEN TO PILOT POINT, WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE? ARE, ARE OUR RESIDENTS DRIVING OUT THE PILOT POINT TO PICK UP? OR IS THERE A PROCESS THERE IN PLACE TO GET THE DOG BACK TO ADDISON? YES, SIR.
ACTUALLY, UM, ALL AMERICAN WILL RETURN THE DOG TO THE, THE, THE RESIDENT.
UM, WE HAVE, I ABOUT FIVE FAMILIAR THE ELECTRON USUALLY LOUD ENOUGH.
BOB MATTHEWS, OWNER OF ALL AMERICAN DOGS AND MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE, MEREDITH.
UM, SO WE HAVE TRUCKS RUNNING ALL THROUGHOUT THE DAY, AND ON A, ON THE WEEKENDS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MOST LIKELY GONNA HAVE TO COME OUT.
BUT DURING THE WEEK WE OFFER HOME DELIVERY IN ALL OF OUR CITIES.
WE'RE CURRENTLY SERVING 43 CITIES IN NINE COUNTIES.
SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A SERVICE WE OFFER DURING THE WEEK.
SO WEEK WEEKENDS, IF SOMEONE, IF SOMEONE'S DOG'S PICKED UP, THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMING OUT TO PILOT POINT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU HAD ENVISIONED, RAY? IT'S PRETTY MUCH, MUCH THAT THAT WOULD BE THE CASE FOR THE WEEKEND.
UH, UNLESS THEY WANNA MAKE SOME SORT OF ARRANGEMENT, WE COULD POTENTIALLY PICK THE, PICK THE ANIMAL UP FOR THEM.
WE COULD POTENTIALLY PICK THE ANIMAL UP FOR THEM AND THEN RETURN IT.
THE ONLY EXCEPTION IS IF THE PERSON IS DISABLED, UM, OR JUST UNABLE TO, TO TRAVEL, UM, WE'LL MAKE, WE'LL HELP, WE'LL HELP.
UH, AND THEN, SO RAY, CURRENTLY THE PROCESS IS, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR PRESENTATION, WE, WE TAKE SOMEONE IN AND THEN THERE'S JUST A, THERE'S A HANDFUL OF VENDORS THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT WE REACH OUT TO AND WHOEVER HAS, UM, THE RESOURCES OR CAPABILITY, THAT'S WHO WE'RE TAKING IT TO.
YEAH, SO, SO WE HAD BEEN DOING THAT, AND THEN AT ONE POINT, UH, WE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT
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WITH, UH, VETERINARY CLINIC ON THE EAST SIDE OF, UH, DALLAS.UM, THAT WAS WORKING FOR US FOR A WHILE.
UH, BUT THE COST, UH, STARTED TO GET, UH, EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AFTER A WHILE BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE WITH, UH, THE ANIMALS NOT MOVING.
AND BECAUSE WE WERE STILL RETAINING CUSTODY OF THE ANIMALS AFTER THE RAHO PERIOD, UH, THAT COULD, THAT COST WOULD INCREASE INCREMENTALLY.
UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, ON THE AVERAGE, UH, FOR A SEVEN DAY HOLE FOR A WEEK, WE WERE SPENDING ABOUT $300 PER ANIMAL.
SO ONCE THE STRAY HOLE PERIOD WAS OVER, IF THE ANIMAL DIDN'T GET ADOPTED OUT, AND IT CONTINUED TO STAY THERE, WE WERE INCURRING THAT SAME 300, IT WAS $304 PER ANIMAL.
SO IN ONE MONTH, UH, WE COULD SPEND ABOUT $1,200 FOR ONE SINGLE ANIMAL.
SO ON PAGE EIGHT, YOU GET INTO THE COSTS, UM, LOOKS LIKE 175,000 PERSONNEL, AND THEN 273 FOR THIRD PARTY SHELTERING.
SO THAT'S WHERE REALLY WE'LL SEE THE SAVINGS.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA GET RID OF ANY OFFICERS OR ANYTHING.
IT'S REALLY JUST IN HOW WE'RE HANDLING THOSE.
AND THEN THE SAVINGS WOULD COME FROM THE SHELTERING.
AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR YOU OR FOR DAVID.
UM, THE IDEA OF FUNDING 75,000 FOR NEW KENNELS FOR A VENDOR.
I MEAN, HAVE WE, HAVE WE DONE THAT BEFORE? HAVE WE EVER, UM, SHARED EXPENSES OR COVERED EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH A VENDOR THAT WE MIGHT USE? I, I, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON, RIGHT? IF YOU ENTER INTO SOMETHING WHERE THE VENDOR'S GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE YOU DO GIVE SOME UPFRONT COST TO IT.
OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I CAN'T THINK OF ANY UNLESS WE HAVE GO FOR IT.
IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE TWO 50? UM, ASHLEY ROY, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, UM, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK, BUT I THINK WHEN, UH, ADDISON DID THEIR ORIGINAL CONTRACT WITH CARROLLTON FOR JAIL SERVICE, I THINK THERE WAS SOME UPFRONT COST WITH THAT TO FINISH OUT.
MAYBE SOME OF THE SALES IN CARROLLTON, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK.
AND I WILL SAY THAT WHEN WE TALKED TO SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES, WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO HELP, UM, PAY FOR SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TO KIND OF BUILD OUT, TO HAVE CAPACITY.
WELL, I'M INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THE REST OF THE COUNCIL FEELS ABOUT US FUNDING THAT.
AND THEN IF WE DO DECIDE TO DO IT, I'M, I'M HOPING IN THE CONTRACT, SINCE WE HAVE A 30 DAY OUT AND THEY HAVE A 30 DAY OUT, IF WE DO FUND THE 75,000, WE CAN RECOUP THAT OR A PORTION OF IT.
WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.
WAS SAYING, UH, IT'S ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT WE WERE ENCOUNTERING WERE THERE WAS NO SPACE OR JUST THE CAPACITY, UH, DIDN'T PERMIT, UH, SOME OF THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO PROVIDE THAT ASSISTANCE TO US.
UH, SO IN ORDER FOR US TO BE GUARANTEED A SPACE, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE WORKED OUT IN TERMS OF, UH, ENSURING THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT AVAILABILITY, ALL AVAILABILITY ALL THE TIME.
BRANDY, TO TRAIL ON THAT, YOU WANNA BRING YOUR MIC DOWN, PLEASE? YES.
UM, IS THE 75,000 INCLUDED IN THIS TWO 50, OR IS THAT AN ADDITIONAL YES, IT IS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A TWO 50 YES.
INCLUSIVE OF THE 75, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO THE BASE CONTRACT IS THE 12 FIVE PER MONTH, WHICH COMES OUT TO ONE 50, UH, PLUS THE 75, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL COST, IF WE INFER THOSE.
SO THIS TWO 50 IS FOR AN A ONE YEAR CONTRACT? IT'S A A ONE, WELL, IT'S A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, SO IT'S TWO 50 NOT TO EXCEED TWO 50 EACH OF THE FIVE YEARS.
THEY, WE KEPT BREAKING CERTAIN THINGS DOWN INTO MULTIPLE YEARS AND OKAY.
SO IT IS TWO 50 A YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS.
SO WE'RE BASICALLY LOOKING AT 1.25 MIL OVER FIVE YEARS.
WHEN, WHEN WILL THE KENNELS BE FINISHED AND READY TO GO? AND DO YOU HAVE CAPACITY FOR US NOW BEFORE THEY'RE BUILT? WE'RE CURRENTLY HANDLING YOUR CAPACITY.
CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW I'M BUILDING A BRAND NEW BUILDING, WHICH YOU GUYS WILL HAVE A SECTION OF.
UM, WE'VE SET ASIDE 15 RUNS FOR NOW.
AND, BUT THAT CAN EBB AND FLOW.
THAT BUILDING HAS 78 18 OF WHICH ARE, CAN, CAN ALSO BE QUARANTINE RUNS FOR AGGRESSIVE ANIMALS, WHICH WE'VE HAD TO DO QUITE A FEW SO FAR WITH YOU GUYS.
UM, SO THE ANSWER IS IT'S YOU, THE, THE BRAND NEW RUNS WILL BE ONLINE 90 DAYS.
SO, BUT WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CAPACITY RIGHT NOW, BUT THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO GET THE NEW BUILDING UP AND, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA BE RENOVATING THE VERY, VERY FIRST BUILDING.
I BUILT MY, UH, A LITTLE OVER 18 YEARS AGO.
SO ENVIRONMENTALLY CONTROLLED, THESE ARE, THESE ARE INDOOR RUNS, SPRAY FOAM, UM, CINDER BLOCK WALLS, GALVANIZED GATES, UM, OBVIOUSLY AIR CONDITIONED.
AND ALSO THE, THE NEW ONES WILL ALSO HAVE SOME MORE DEHUMIDIFICATION ABILITIES,
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UM, AND ALSO SOME PURIFICATION IN THERE.UH, I'M JUST TAGGING ON THESE QUESTIONS.
MY MAIN QUESTION IS, THIS IS A NO KILL PROGRAM, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
AND THAT'S, WELL, I, I, I GET ASKED THIS QUESTION ALL THE TIME FOR A LOT OF YEARS.
UM, WE CAN'T ADOPT THINGS THAT BITE PEOPLE, SO WE, WE CAN'T, SO IF YOU BRING AN AGGRESSIVE DOG TO ME AND HE'S, HE'S NOT GONNA INVITE ANYBODY ELSE.
UM, AND SO, BUT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN.
WE DO DAILY ADOPTIONS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
WE DO MULTIPLE EXTERNAL ADOPTION EVENTS.
I HAVE, I HAVE PAID STAFF THAT GO TO PETCO, PETSMART, WALMARTS, AND DO AND DO EVENTS.
SO THE ANSWER IS, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AGGRESSIVE.
IT'S IT, WELL, AND I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S COMMON.
A A A MEAN DOG, EVERYONE I'M TALKING ABOUT, WE DON'T SIMPLY PUT 'EM DOWN AFTER SEVEN DAYS, 20 DAYS.
THE, UM, AND AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE 75,000 IS OVER THE FIRST THREE YEARS, SO IT'S 25,000.
THAT'S WHY I WAS BREAKING THAT WITH HER.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT FOR ME.
WHAT IS OUR AVERAGE TIME THAT, THAT WE'RE KEEPING ONE OF THESE DOGS? I MEAN, SO PER STATE LAW, IT'S BASICALLY, IF IT'S AN OWNED ANIMAL, IT'S MICROCHIPPED, IT'S THREE DAYS.
IF IT'S NOT MICROCHIPPED, IT'S SIX DAYS.
I MEAN, MY, MY COLLEAGUE'S DOG GETS OUT AND, UH, UM, YOU, IF HE'S IN TOWN, IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T STAY THERE LONG, I WOULD ASSUME.
AND, AND WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF, OF RUNNING THEM, THE MICROCHIPS AND CONTACTING.
WE'RE ACT, WE'RE ACTIVELY REACHING OUT TO THESE OWNERS TO SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT FLUFFY.
WE ACTUALLY DO THAT EVEN BEFORE WE GET THEM OUT TO, UH, ALL AMERICAN.
WE HAVE OUR OWN SCANNERS, UH, THERE AT THE OFFICE, AND WE'LL CHECK THAT.
UM, 24 HOUR TRANSFER, AVAIL, AVAIL AVAILABILITY.
WE, WE DO OPERATE TILL SEVEN IN THE EVENING.
AND THEN, UH, WE DO HAVE ON-CALL.
SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES AN EMERGENCY, UH, OUR STAFF WILL ROTATE THREE WEEKS OUT OF THE MONTH FOR ON-CALL.
AND THEN, UH, ALL AMERICAN WILL PICK UP.
UH, BUT, BUT AS LONG AS WE CALL THEM OUT, THEY'LL MEET US IN FRISCO, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO WE, WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF DOING THAT.
UH, QUICK QUESTIONS FOR YOU ON THE SPIKE IN INTAKES, IS THERE ANY CAUSE AND EFFECT TO THAT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT YOUR FINGER ON IN NEIGHBORHOODS OR FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR WHERE, UM, IT'S, WELL, WE'RE AT THE END OF ALMOST MATING SEASON RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE HAD, UH, NUMBERS THAT HAVE COME IN, LIKE, UH, RECENTLY WE HAD A SITUATION, WE HAD LIKE 13 CATS THAT CAME IN AT ONE TIME.
UH, THE OTHER DAY WE HAD, UH, EIGHT PUPPIES THAT WERE LEFT BEHIND OUR OFFICE IN A, IN A PLASTIC BIN.
UH, AND WE'VE SINCE ACTUALLY SENT HALF OF THOSE OUT TO RESCUES.
WE STILL HAVE FOUR WITH THE POTENTIALLY OF GETTING TWO MORE OUT BY TOMORROW.
SO BEFORE WE EVEN MOVE FORWARD WITH SENDING THINGS TO ALL AMERICAN, WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND A PARTNER THAT'S WILLING TO TAKE 'EM.
MOST OF THE TIME WE HAVE SUCCESS WITH, UH, OPERATION KINDNESS.
UH, THERE'S A, UH, THE A-S-P-C-A AS WELL THAT IS, AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE MORE INTERESTED IN CATS, MORE SO THAN, THAN UH, DOGS.
DO WE USE THE CAT LADY THAT WERE GIVING THE GRANT FUNDS AS WELL? YES.
SO THEY'RE CONTACTED PRIOR TO ACTUALLY TAKE ONE OF THOSE KITTENS.
WE'RE, WE'RE USING OUR RESOURCES AS BEST AS POSSIBLE TO YES, SIR.
TO SOLVE THE CURE OF THE, THE SPIKE, UM, WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE ADOPTIONS, TO YOUR POINT, OR ARE WE LISTING ADOPTIONS IN OUR FRIDAY NEWSLETTERS OR ON OUR TOWN'S WEBSITE? YES, WE HAVE BEEN.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UM, WE ACTUALLY PUT IT IN THE QUESTIONS.
UH, UH, THERE'S A LINK TO THE WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN VIEW THE ADAPTABLE ANIMALS FROM ALL AMERICAN AS WELL.
I MEANT THROUGH OUR OWN WEBSITE, THROUGH THE TOWN, MADISON.
WE HAVE 'EM ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN WE, I'M LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE, THE GRAPH WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE OTHER CITIES AND THEIR STAFFS AND THEIR FTES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND IT SAYS NA FOR NOT APPLICABLE.
SO WE DID REACH OUT TO FARMER'S BRANCH, OR WE DID REACH OUT AND THAT'S WHAT THEIR RESPONSES WERE NOT AVAILABLE OR NOT APPLICABLE.
'CAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SHELTER, UH, IN THAT PARTICULAR SENSE.
THEY DON'T USE A THIRD PARTY, SO THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T WANNA OFFER THE SERVICE TO US OR POTENTIALLY SHOP THE SERVICE TO CHANEL'S POINT.
WE DIDN'T SHOP IT WITH FARMER'S BRANCH.
NO, WE HAVE, AND UH, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSE IS JUST LIKE THE OTHERS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE EITHER AT CAPACITY OR THEY JUST DON'T HAVE, UM, THE ABILITY TO, UH, HOUSE OUR ANIMALS.
BECAUSE IF THEY TAKE IN OURS AND THEN THEY HAVE, UH, A NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT COME IN, UH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING TO DO WITH OURS SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE IN THEIR OWN, UH, SO THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE SOME AVAILABILITY FOR, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY SITUATIONS THAT MAY ARISE.
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THANK YOU.AND THEN FOR ALL AMERICAN, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID YOU'RE USING, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH US FOR 10 YEARS AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY A LONGSTANDING RELATIONSHIP AND TO THE POINT OF 25,000 PER YEAR FOR US TO HELP ASSIST IN BUILDING THESE, THIS NEW KENNEL.
HAVE YOU WORKED WITH ANY CITY WHERE YOU'VE HAD TO SORT OF FIRE THE CITY BECAUSE THEY BECOME, WHAT? WELL, HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? HOW DO YOU GET TO THAT BREAK POINT WHERE YOU SAY, I'M OUT 30 DAYS, HERE'S YOUR NOTICE.
UM, FOR THE ANIMAL PATROL, I HAVE FIRED ONE FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
UM, BUT WITH THE, WITH ANIMAL PATROL, I HAVE NOT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO HEAR.
SO THE $250,000 A YEAR IS TWO 50 FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS, AND THEN 2 25 AFTER IT'S, WELL, IT'S, IT'S NOT TO EXCEED TWO 50 FOR THE WHOLE FIVE YEARS.
SO EVERY YEAR IT'S NOT TO EXCEED TWO 50.
THE, THE 75,000 FOR THE KENNELS IS JUST OVER THE FIRST THREE YEARS AND IT'S BROKEN DOWN FOR 25,000 PER YEAR.
UM, MAN, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT COST THAT MUCH TO, UH, TO TAKE CARE OF THE ANIMALS.
SO, UH, I, I AM A PET PERSON TOO.
UM, THE, UH, SO THE COST BEYOND THIS CURRENTLY, THE EXAMPLE YOU GAVE WITH THE EAST ALICE VET CLINIC? YES.
UM, WE, THEY PAID, UH, WE PAID THEM TO, TO KEEP THE DOG, KEEP THE ANIMAL, AND THEN HOWEVER LONG IT STAYS, WE PAID RENT FOR 'EM.
BUT THE, THE DIFFERENCE THERE WAS THAT IF, UH, AFTER THE WHOLE PERIOD, IF THE ANIMAL WASN'T RECLAIMED OR IT WASN'T ADOPTED OUT, UH, THEY CONTINUED TO STAY THERE AND WE CONTINUED PAYING THOSE HOUSING COSTS AND WE DON'T PAY THAT IN THIS NEW AGREEMENT.
AND SO IT IS JUST THAT FLAT FEE, 200 ANIMALS FOR, UH, 12 FIVE A MONTH A MONTH.
AND, UM, AND THEN, UH, SO IF WE GO ABOVE 200, DOES IT IMMEDIATELY GO TO THE NEXT 80,000 OR IS IT PER ANIMAL? IF WE GO, UH, OVER THE, THE 200, THEN WE PAY THE PER ANIMAL FEE OF, OF 3 75.
SO WE'VE BUDGETED IN THERE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL 30,000 THAT WOULD EQUATE TO ABOUT 80 ADDITIONAL ANIMALS YOU BUDGETED IN THERE? YES.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE TRACKING 300 FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, SO YOU CURRENTLY, THE CURRENT MODEL IS IF YOU HAVE A A, AN ANIMAL, THEN YOU TRANSPORT IT IMMEDIATELY SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? YES.
WE DON'T KEEP IT AT ALL, UH, IN ADDISON.
WE, WE'VE, UH, WE'VE KEPT SOME, UH, IF WE'VE MADE CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY THAT'S EITHER, UH, EXPRESSING INTEREST OR MAYBE AN OWNER'S REACHED OUT TO US AND SAYS, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE MY ANIMAL, BUT I CAN'T GET OUT THERE RIGHT AWAY.
CAN YOU PLEASE HOLD 'EM FOR ME? WE, WE MAY HOLD SOME THERE AT OUR OFFICE.
WE DO HAVE SOME SMALL KENNELS THERE.
UM, MAYBE THAT COULD HOUSE FOUR OR FIVE, MAYBE UP TO SIX ANIMALS.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH SPACE.
UM, BUT IF IT GETS BEYOND THAT POINT, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THEM OUT TO, TO THE SHELTER.
AND LIKELY THE, THE VENDOR YOU'RE USING, THE EAST DALLAS VENDOR, THAT TRAVEL TOWN, I SUPPOSE IS ABOUT THE SAME AS GOING TO FRISCO, RIGHT? I THINK, UH, ACTUALLY I THINK FRISCO IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
'CAUSE WE'RE, UH, THE, THE RENDEZVOUS POINT IS, UH, THE, UM, THE BALLPARK, UH, JUST NORTH OF STONEBRIAR.
UH, SO IT'S JUST A STRAIGHT SHOT OF THE TOLLWAY.
AND I DO SAY YOU SEE ON SLIDE NINE YOU DID TRY TO PARTNER WITH OTHER CITIES, UH, THE COLONY, GRAPEVINE, PLANO, LOUISVILLE, AND SO ON.
SO, AND WE DID, THE ONLY, UH, PROPOSAL WE RECEIVED WAS FROM RICHARDSON AND IT WAS, UH, A LOT MORE THAN THIS.
AND THAT, THAT DOES ADD COMPLICATIONS WHENEVER WE HAVE THAT KIND OF PARTNERSHIP AS WE LEARN WITH THE JAIL.
UM, AND WHAT ARE THE OTHER CITIES? THE, THE ONES THAT ARE LISTED, UH, AS EXAMPLES ARE TINY ONES WAY OUTSIDE OF THE METROPLEX.
DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT? I SAY TINY BOB.
NOW, UH, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE OTHER, UH, OTHER CITIES? YOU SAY ON YOUR 35 MUNICIPALITIES, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER LARGER ONES? UH, UH, LIKE US, UM, FATE, PROBABLY THE CLOSEST TO YOUR SIZE.
SO FAT'S AT 35 ISH THOUSAND PEOPLE, UM, AROUND US, NEAR, NEAR US.
LIKE OTHER CITIES LIKE UNIVERSITY PARK OR LIKE HIGHLAND PARK.
WE HAD UNIVERSITY PARK FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS.
AND THEN THE, THE CLIMATE CHANGE, AND THEY WENT WITH, UH, THEY'RE USING A LOCAL VET RIGHT NOW.
SO ANY, ANY ONES IN THE CLOSER INTO DALLAS OR FORT WORTH CITY? SAID MOST OF 'EM ARE MAYBE MORE RURAL THAN US.
NO, WELL, I'D SAY OVERALL AS A WHOLE, YES.
PROBABLY UNDER 10,000 FOR, FOR THE MAJORITY.
BUT, UM, WE HAVE CITIES, WE'RE RIGHT BY SALINA.
AND THAT'S ONE, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE BUILDING ADDITIONAL ABILITY.
'CAUSE EVERYTHING AROUND, I, I HAVE 40,000 HOMES GOING IN ALL AROUND MY FACILITY, SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP GROWING.
AND SO WE'LL DEVELOP THAT ENTIRE 12 ACRES.
THERE'S PROBABLY MORE OF A PROXIMITY, UH, AS, AS KIND OF LIKE YOUR CUSTOMERS CAME UP, THEY'RE NEARBY, IS PRETTY EASY FOR THEM TO DO, AND THEY'RE SMALLER.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA INSOURCE THAT STUFF.
SO I CAN, WELL, AND ONE OF THE REASONS, BECAUSE
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WE HAVE SUCH A LARGE FOOTPRINT, THAT'S WHY WE DRIVE THE HEAD DOGS BACK TO THE HOMES.SO THAT WAY FOLKS MEAN, I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU, I'D LOVE TO SHOW YOU AROUND, BUT A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE ARE BUSY AND WE WANNA BE ABLE TO HELP GET ANIMALS BACK TO THEM.
WE'RE VERY, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I'M THE FIRST PERSON, UM, MY FAMILY IS TO MAKE THIS WORK ON A LARGE SCALE.
AND SO WE'RE IN A UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT.
SO IF YOU RETURN AN ANIMAL, UH, SAY I CALL BACK MY, MY DOG GOT OUT, THAT'S MY DOG.
OR THEY, YOU CALLED ME AND TOLD ME AND SAID, I, I CALL YOU NOON ON TODAY.
WHEN, WHEN DO I EXPECT THE ANIMAL BACK? IF YOU CALLED AT NOON? PROBABLY THE SAME DAY.
UM, IF YOU CALLED AT THREE O'CLOCK.
'CAUSE WHEN TRAFFIC STARTS HITTING, IT'S JUST THE TRUCKS HAVE TO GET BACK TO THE, TO THE FACILITY AND THEN, THEN BRING IT BACK OUT.
MY, IF IT'S AFTER THREE, I'D SAY PROBABLY FIRST THING IN THE MORNING BETWEEN, FIRST THING IS PROBABLY GET A LITTLE, GET THE TRAFFIC CLEAR A LITTLE BIT.
IS THAT IN THE CONTRACT? DO THE SLA ON THAT, ON GETTING THE ANIMAL BACK SINCE IT IS RETURNED? NO, NOT SPECIFICALLY.
BUT THAT, I MEAN, THAT, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'VE DONE FOR, FOR 18 YEARS.
THAT'S PART OF OUR STANDARD PROCESS.
SOMEONE ELSE, I MEANT, I MEANT TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION, RAY.
UM, SO IF, ARE THERE, I HATE TO USE THE TERM THERE, HABITUAL OFFENDERS WHERE THEIR DOGS ARE CONSTANTLY OUT AND YOU'RE MAKING THAT SAME REPEATED CALL.
IS THERE A FINE OR A FEE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RECOUP SOME OF THESE COSTS? I THINK IF ANYTHING, THE, THE HABITUAL OFFENDERS THAT WE HAVE SEEN, UH, ARE THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED THAT HAVE THEIR DOGS, UH, OFF LEASH OR, OR JUST RUNNING AT LARGE.
UM, NOT SO MUCH SO THAT, THAT THEY GET IMPOUNDED LIKE EVERY MONTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, THAT WOULD BE UNUSUAL, I THINK.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A, A MECHANISM OR A TRIGGER TO RECOVER ANY COSTS, PERIOD.
WE, WE DO, I MEAN THE, THE ONES FOR, UH, THAT ARE AT LARGER THAT ARE RUNNING OFF LEASH, WE, WE WILL ISSUE A CITATION.
WHAT'S THAT CITATION COST? UH, PROBABLY THE WINDOW FINES PROBABLY ABOUT TWO 50 MINIMUM.
BUT IN TERMS OF A BUDGET, ARE WE, ARE WE, ARE WE RECOUPING 10,000 A YEAR? A HUNDRED THOUSAND A YEAR? NO, NOT THAT MUCH.
UH, I, IT'S, IT WOULD BE MINIMAL.
AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S A CITATION.
SO MOST OF THAT MONEY GOES TO THE STATE.
IS THERE A REASON WHY THE CITY WOULDN'T RECOVER SOME RECOVER? DOG? WE, WE RECOVER A PORTION, BUT UH, JUST THE WAY THAT THAT MECHANISM IS SET UP, THOSE, THOSE FINES USUALLY END UP GOING TO THE STATE.
UM, ALMOST EVERY, UH, CITATION THAT WE ISSUE, WHETHER IT'S ANIMAL SERVICES OR CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, THAT'S USUALLY BECAUSE IT INCLUDES THE COURT CAUSE AND, UH, THE, ALL THE ASSOCIATED FEES THAT GO WITH THAT.
BOB, ARE YOU SEEING ANY OTHER CITIES THAT ARE HAVING A BETTER MECHANISM TO RECOVER COSTS FOR DOGS OR CATS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY GETTING OUT? DOES THAT COME TO BRING, IS IS THAT COME TO MIND OF ANY PARTICULAR CITY? THERE ARE.
I MEAN, IN EVERY TOWN WE HAVE, YOU HAVE ABOUT 80, 80 TO 85% OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, THAT ARE ROCK STARS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER 15, 10% OF THE OTHER 15 JUST NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF A NUDGE, WHICH MIGHT BE A CITATION OR A WARNING.
UM, THEN YOU HAVE THE 5% THAT KEEP THAT.
WE KNOW A LOT THAT WE, WHETHER IT'S THE APARTMENT, THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES OR THE MOTEL HOTELS THAT HAVE LONG-TERM STAYS.
UM, HALF I DO, I DO THE DANGEROUS CALLS.
SO IF YOU HAVE A ROT WALLER TRYING TO EAT YOU, I GET IT OUT OF THE BUILDING.
AND I'VE BEEN TO THIS ONE PARTICULAR HOTEL MOTEL FIVE, SIX TIMES SO FAR, AND IT'S THE SAME ENVIRONMENT, SAME, SAME SITUATION EVERY TIME.
UM, SO THOSE, THAT, THAT'S WHERE YOU COULD HAVE A LOT OF RE RECURRING.
AND THEN ALSO USUALLY THE FOLKS WHO HAVE ISSUES WITH THE POLICE WE HAVE CONTACT WITH.
UM, I'VE JUST GOT A COUPLE OF, UH, COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
I'D LIKE TO ALSO THANK THE ANIMAL SERVICES TEAM FOR, FOR THE HARD WORK THEY DO.
IT'S, UH, VERY IMPORTANT WORK, OBVIOUSLY, AND, UH, UM, OFTENTIMES GOES UNDERAPPRECIATED, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE YOU.
UM, RANDY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? JUST ONE REAL QUICK QUESTION.
IS THERE NO FEE FOR RECOVERING YOUR DOG? I MEAN, WHEN CHRIS'S DOG GETS OUT AND RUNS AND WE HAVE TO TAKE HIM SOMEWHERE, SO IF, IF WE HAVE THEM IN OUR FACILITY, THERE'S NO FEE TO, TO GET YOUR DOG BACK? YES.
IF, IF WE HAVE HIM IN OUR FACILITY, WE'LL CHARGE OUR IMPOUND FEE.
UH, THAT'S IN OUR, UM, UH, FEE SCHEDULE, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE IS $25 PER DAY UP TO A MAXIMUM OF $150.
UH, IF THEY'VE ALREADY GONE TO ALL AMERICAN, THEN THEY'LL PAY THE FEE DIRECTLY TO ALL AMERICAN.
SO THERE IS A FEE TO RECLAIM YOUR DOLLAR TO RECLAIM, YOUR HONOR.
I GET THAT IT IS NOT GONNA PAY FOR THIS, BUT THERE IS SOME TYPE OF INCENTIVE FOR MAYBE PUTTING A PIECE OF FENCE BACK WHERE IT SHOULD BE, SO.
AND OF COURSE, WE'LL, WE'LL ALSO RECOMMEND IF THE ANIMAL IS, IS NOT CHIPPED, UH, WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THEY DO THAT.
UH, WE CHARGE A MINIMAL FEE OF $10 PER MICROCHIP.
BUT, UH, EVERY NOW AND THEN WE DO HAVE EVENTS WHERE WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MICROCHIP ANIMALS FOR FREE.
UM, AS A MATTER FACT, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING AN EVENT SOMETIME IN
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SEPTEMBER.UH, THAT'LL INCLUDE LOW COST VACCINATIONS ALONG WITH FREE MICRO MICROCHIPPING AS WELL.
CAN WE, CAN WE NOT MANDATE THAT IF WE TAKE A DOG IN THAT IT GETS CHIPPED? YES.
YEAH, THAT'S PART OF, UH, IT'S, IT'S IN OUR, UH, ORDINANCE, UH, IT WAS PART OF THE REVISIONS THAT WE DID, UH, IN THE FALL.
SORRY, I I, I I JUST THOUGHT I HAD HEARD THERE WAS NO FEE AT ALL.
I I JUST HAD ONE, UH, OTHER QUESTION, UH, RAY REGARDING THE, THE, UH, $75,000 FOR THE, THE EXPANSION.
UH, IN THE CONTRACT, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S DUE UPON EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, AND IT CAN BE DONE.
IT COULD BE PAID MONTHLY, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT METHODS OF PAYMENT.
IF WE WERE TO TERMINATE, WE'VE, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE A LONG, LONG TERM, UH, RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
SO THE LIKELIHOOD OF TERMINATION MIGHT, IN MY MY ESTIMATION, PRETTY LOW.
BUT JUST, JUST TO KNOW, IS THAT THE INTENT THAT IF, IF WE WERE TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, A YEAR DOWN THE ROAD TO TERMINATE MM-HMM
ARE WE STILL OBLIGATED FOR THE REMAINING $50,000? WE'RE ONLY OBLIGATED, UH, TO PAY UP TO THE DATE OF THE TERMINATION.
SO, UM, SO WOULD, WOULD, WOULD THE INTENT BE FOR US TO PAY THAT OUT MONTHLY, QUARTERLY, ANNUALLY? YES.
UH, OUR, OUR PLAN, I BELIEVE WAS TO GO AHEAD AND ADD IT TO THE MONTHLY PAYMENT.
SO WE BREAK DOWN THE, THE $25,000, UH, OVER THE 12 MONTHS.
UH, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
UM, AND CAN I DO IT WITH A CONDITION THAT THE 25,000 ANNUALLY FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS WOULD BE PAID OUT? MONTHLY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[5.b. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution appointing Town of Addison Mayor Bruce Arfsten to the aggregated position of Representative, and City of Richardson Mayor Amir Omar as Alternate to the aggregated position of Representative to the Regional Transportation Council (RTC) of the North Central Texas Council of Governments.]
GOOD.PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPOINTING TOWN OF ADDISON MAYOR BRUCE ARSON TO THE AGGREGATED POSITION OF REPRESENTATIVE AND CITY OF RICHARDSON, MAYOR, UH, MAYOR OMAR AS ALTERNATE, ALTERNATE TO THE AGGREGATED POSITION OF REPRESENTATIVE TO THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL OF THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
VALENCIA EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL VALENCIA GARCIA, CITY SECRETARY, HERE TO DISCUSS, UM, OUR REPRESENTATIVE APPOINTMENTS TO THE COGS REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL.
UH, SO THE RTC IS A 45 MEMBER INDEPENDENT TRANSPORTATION POLICYMAKING BODY THAT DETERMINES HOW REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION FUNDS SHOULD BE SPENT.
UM, IT IS PART OF THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT, SO THE COG, UM, PER THE RTCS BYLAWS AND OPERATING PROCEDURES, ADDISON AND RICHARD RICHARDSON ARE DESIGNATED AS CLUSTER CITIES, AND AS SUCH, THEY SHARE ONE MEMBER SEAT BASED ON THE POPULATION OF BOTH MUNICIPALITIES.
UM, SO THE TOWN SHARES ONE REPRESENTATIVE POSITION AND ONE ALTERNATE POSITION TO THE RTC.
UM, AND THESE POSITIONS ARE BOTH APPOINTED FOR TWO YEAR TERMS. SO AS APPOINTED BY THE ADDISON AND RICHARDSON CITY COUNCILS, UH, MAYOR ARSON CURRENTLY SERVES AS THE REPRESENTATIVE AND RICHARDSON'S MAYOR AMIR OMAR SERVES AS THE ALTERNATE.
BOTH OF THESE APPOINTMENT TERMS END ON JUNE 30TH OF THIS YEAR.
UM, THE CITY OF RICHARDSON EXPRESSED THEIR INTENT TO REAPPOINT MAYOR ARSON AND MAYOR OMAR TO THEIR RESPECTIVE, UM, RTC POSITIONS FOR ANOTHER TWO YEAR TERM THAT WOULD EXPIRE ON JUNE 30TH, 2028.
UM, IN THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED A RESOLUTION REAPPOINTING BOTH MAYORS AT THEIR CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 15TH.
THAT, ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? IS THERE A MOTION? A MOTION TO APPROVE? I SECOND.
THANK YOU DAN AND CHANEL FOR THE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ITEM FIVE C FIVE B IS APPROVED.
[5.c. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution re-appointing Gary Slagel to a two-year term on the Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART) Board of Directors.]
FIVE C PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION.REAPPOINTING GARY SLAGEL TO A TWO YEAR TERM ON THE DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT DART BOARD OF DIRECTORS, VALENCIA.
AND COUNCIL LENCIA GARCIA, CITY SECRETARY HERE TO DISCUSS OUR DART BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPOINTMENT.
UM, SO THE TOWNS OF ADDISON AND HIGHLAND PARK, ALONG WITH THE CITIES OF RICHARDSON AND UNIVERSITY PARK, HAVE SHARED AN AGGREGATED REPRESENTATIVE POSITION WITH THE DART BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UH, AS APPOINTED BY THE FOUR MUNICIPALITIES IN JUNE, 2024.
GARY SCHLEGEL CURRENTLY SERVES IN THIS ROLE WITH HIS TERM EXPIRING ON JULY 1ST OF THIS YEAR.
UH, SO ADDISON RICHARDSON AND UNIVERSITY PARK WILL CONTINUE TO SHARE THIS REPRESENTATIVE
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POSITION FOLLOWING HIGHLAND PARK'S WITHDRAWAL FROM DART IN MAY OF THIS PAST YEAR, RICHARDSON AND UNIVERSITY PARK HAD EXPRESSED THEIR INTENT TO REAPPOINT MR. SLAGEL FOR ANOTHER TWO YEAR TERM, UM, EXPIRING ON JULY 1ST, 2028.THE RICHARDSON CITY COUNCIL REAPPOINTED MR. SLAGEL.
UM, AT THEIR JUNE 8TH MEETING, UH, UNIVERSITY PARK CONSIDERED A RESOLUTION TO REAPPOINT MR. SLAGEL AT THEIR JUNE 16TH MEETING.
AND THEY HAVE TABLED THAT ITEM, UM, AND THEY HAVE NOT, UH, SET A DATE FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND THEN AS A REMINDER, A NEW DARK GOVERNANCE MODEL HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL REPRESENTATION TO MEMBER CITIES.
UM, THIS CHANGE IS BEING DRAFTED AND WILL REQUIRE APPROVAL BY THE STATE LEGISLATOR IN THE NEXT REGULAR SESSION IN 2027.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, VALENCIA.
AND, UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, GARY SLAGEL HAS JOINED US HERE THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, FOR BEING HERE WITH US, GARY.
QUESTIONS THAT LOOK LIKE MARLON.
UM, ONE OF THE, UH, COUNCIL QUESTION AND ANSWERS REFERRED TO A, UH, UH, BACK IN 1994, A JOINT RESOLUTION, A JOINT RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED BETWEEN ADDISON RICHARDSON, UH, HIGHLAND PARK AND UNIVERSITY PARK, UM, THAT, THAT SET THE SELECTION PROCESS FOR THE SHARED MEMBER, UH, TO THE DART BOARD.
AND THE RESOLUTION STATES THAT THE CITY WITH THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF FRACTIONAL ALLOCATION.
WHAT IS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? FRACTIONAL ALLOCATION? IS THAT, IS THAT MONEY OR IS THAT PEOPLE, OR WHAT DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS? IT'S JUST POPULATION.
I THINK POPULATION WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT, WHEN DART'S LOOKING AT THEIR OVERALL GOVERNANCE RIGHT NOW AND HOW THEY SPLIT UP CITIES.
THEY USE THAT TERMINOLOGY, I BELIEVE.
BUT I THINK IT JUST MEANS POPULATION.
AND, AND A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
THIS WAS DONE, DAVID, THIS WAS DONE A LITTLE WHILE BACK, OBVIOUSLY IN 1994, AND NOW WE'VE GOT, TIME HAS PASSED AND HIGHLAND PARK IS ALSO GONE.
DO WE SEE THAT THAT RESOLUTION BEING UPDATED? WELL, I, I MEAN, I THINK ALL OF OUR, OUR ANTICIPATION IS THAT AT THE LEGISLATURE, WE HAVE A WHOLE NEW MODEL.
SO WE WOULDN'T NEED A, WE WOULD HAVE, WE WOULD'VE OUR OWN APPOINTEE.
SO WE WOULDN'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA COME WITH A TEXAS STATE LEGISLATURE, BUT I HAVE HOPE.
BUT FOR NOW, UM, IF, IF WE ARE GONNA UPDATE THIS RESOLUTION, I'M ASKING, ASKING YOU, AND ASK ALSO, UH, LOVE TO ENTERTAIN WHATEVER COUNCIL THOUGHTS ARE.
UM, IT WOULD BE NICE IF BETWEEN THE THREE CITIES, RIGHT? 'CAUSE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT RICHARDSON, UNIVERSITY PARK AND ADDISON.
NOW, IF, IF THAT, IF THE NOMINATION PROCESS MIGHT ROTATE, ROTATE BETWEEN THE THREE CITIES RATHER THAN RICHARDSON ALWAYS, UM, OR WHOEVER'S GOT THE MOST POPULATION, I THINK RICHARDSON'S ALWAYS GONNA HAVE THE HIGHEST POPULATION.
UM, SO IT'D BE NICE JUST TO HAVE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT THAT WOULD ROTATE.
UM, SO IF YOU, I'M, I'M JUST ASKING IF YOU GET THAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE DOESN'T WORK OUT PERFECTLY, LIKE WE'D HOPE.
UM, IT JUST, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'VE GOT SOME ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
UM, AND, AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, UM, AND I GUESS I'M ASKING DAVID, DID WE, UM, I WATCHED UNIVERSITY PARK MEETING REGARDING, REGARDING THIS ITEM.
DO WE HAVE ANY INSIGHT? THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T STATE A DATE OR ANYTHING.
DO WE HAVE ANY INSIGHT, UM, UM, AS TO WHAT THEY'RE THINKING? BECAUSE THIS HAS GOTTA BE A UNANIMOUS VOTE, CORRECT? THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT BASED ON THE ORDINANCE, UM, TALK TO THEM TODAY, THEY DON'T HAVE A DATE CERTAIN YET.
I THINK THEY'RE INTERESTED IN WHAT, HOW COUNSEL ACTS TONIGHT AND WE'LL OBVIOUSLY LET, THEY'RE GONNA KNOW ONCE, ONCE YOU ALL TAKE ACTION, AND WE'LL SEE IF THAT SPURS THEM TO PUT IT ON THEIR NEXT AGENDA OR NOT.
BUT, UM, AT THIS TIME, WE, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GONNA, THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T SHARE ANY OTHER INFORMATION? NO.
HAS ADDISON EVER HAD A REPRESENTATIVE, REPRESENTATIVE IN THIS? HAVE WE EVER HAD A MEMBER ON THE BOARD? A SOLE MEMBER FOR ADDISON? NO.
THROUGH THE, I I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ON THIS PROCESS THAN I HAVE ON MOST OF ANYTHING ELSE TO THE POINT THAT THIS HAS TO BE UNANIMOUS BETWEEN THE THREE CITIES.
WHAT IF IT'S NOT UNANIMOUS AND, AND WE, WE DECIDE MR. SLAGEL IS NOT THE REPRESENTATIVE, HE'S NOT THE ADVOCATE FOR ADDISON THAT WE WANT.
UH, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? DOES THAT REMOVE MR. SLAGEL FROM THE DART BOARD, OR DO WE SIMPLY MOVE TO ANOTHER DART BOARD MEMBER AS A, UH, REPRESENTATIVE? WHAT'S THAT PROCESS? SO THAT'S GOVERNED BY THE JOINT RESOLUTION WE PASSED IN 1994.
UM, IF A UNANIMOUS SELECTION IS NOT MADE, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO, THE OTHER CITIES WOULD NEED TO, UM, SELECT A NEW, UM, PERSON TO NOMINATE, AND THEN THAT SELECTION WOULD HAVE TO BE UNANIMOUS.
SO ESSENTIALLY WE WOULD GO UNTIL WE REACH A UNANIMOUS DECISION TO APPOINT, AND THEN THEY WOULD GO ON THE
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DARK BOARD AND MR. SLAGEL WOULD COME OFF.OR WOULD IT, WOULD IT BE, WOULD, WOULD THE NOMINATION PERSON BE SOMEONE THAT'S NOT ON THE BOARD NOW OR SOMEONE THAT'S ON THE BOARD? I, I'M, I'M FUZZY AS TO WHO THIS POSSIBILITY CAN BE.
IT WOULD LIKELY BE SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT ON THE BOARD BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE CURRENTLY SERVING, YOU KNOW, A POSITION OTHER THAN MR. SLAGEL.
UM, SO THERE WOULD BE THAT, BUT THERE'S NO OTHER, SO HE WOULD COME OFF IF THIS WAS NOT A UNANIMOUS SELECTION.
SO PER DART'S BYLAWS, UH, THE DART BOARD OF DIRECTORS BYLAWS, UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS WOULD NEED TO SERVE THE CONTINUING OF THEIR OFFICE UNTIL A, A SUCCESSOR IS NOMINATED AND APPOINTED.
SO EVEN THOUGH HIS TERM DOES END ON JULY 8TH OR JULY 1ST, OKAY.
UH, IF WE DO NOT HAVE A NEW APPOINT, A NEW UNANIMOUS APPOINTMENT FOR THREE CITIES, UH, MR. SLAGEL WOULD CONTINUE, UH, TO TAG ON TAG ALONG TO, UH, UH, COUNCILMAN WILLIS'S POINT.
I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE A NEW PROCESS AMONGST THE THREE CITIES AND, AND POSSIBLY BREAK AWAY, UH, UH, I THINK MR. SLAGEL FOR HIS SERVICE OVER THE YEARS.
BUT I AM CERTAINLY MORE INTERESTED IN GETTING SOMEONE THAT IS MORE ADDISON ADVOCATE.
I DON'T BELIEVE MR. SLAGEL HAS BEEN MUCH OF AN ADVOCATE OVER THE YEARS ON THAT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DEFINITION OF HIS SANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING A DIFFERENT OUTCOME.
UM, I, I WOULD BE, UM, I WOULD BE IN THE BOAT IF I WOULD LIKE TO, TO LOOK TO SEE WHO ELSE WE COULD HAVE THERE.
DARREN? UM, YEAH, THE PROCESS IS KIND OF TERRIBLE, UM, BECAUSE YOU COULD GET TO A, IN, YOU KNOW, IMPASSE, UH, IF, IF YOU DON'T AGREE ON IT.
UH, HOW LONG HAS, UH, GARY SERVED? I BELIEVE SINCE 2011.
WHY? OH, CAN WE, CAN HE, CAN WE ASK HIM QUESTIONS? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
SO WHY WOULD YOU SERVE ON THE DARTBOARD? WELL, THE REASON THAT I WANTED TO SERVE WAS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE COTTON BELT WAS DELIVERED TO RICHARDSON AND, AND ADDISON IN PARTICULAR, AND WORKED VERY CLOSELY ON THAT PROJECT WHEN I WAS MAYOR.
AND THEN, AND THEN I WAS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AFTER I LEFT AS MAYOR.
SO WE FINALLY HAD THIS WITH COTTON BELT IN PLACE, SO I COULD HAVE MADE THE DECISION TO WITHDRAW AT THIS PARTICULAR STAGE, BUT I WAS ASKED BY SEVERAL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, PARTICULARLY CHAIRMAN BRYANT, TO PLEASE STAY ON WHILE HE WAS CHAIRMAN.
AND THE REASON THAT MADE SENSE IS BECAUSE WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY ON THE LEGISLATIVE ISSUES THAT WE HAD IN THE LAST SESSION.
AND WE ALSO HAVE COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH ALL THE CITIES ON A BOARD MEMBER, PER COMMUNITY, PER MEMBER, WHICH WE WANNA SEE PASSED IN THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
SO I ALSO WANTED TO HELP GET THAT DONE.
SO THAT'S WHY, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, UH, ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE DO BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO.
SO, UM, YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THE GOVERNANCE CHANGE.
SO WHAT DO YOU KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ADDISON SINCE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT ADDISON? WHAT DO I, NO, WELL, WHAT, WHAT PRIORITIES DOES ADDISON HAVE FOR DART? WELL, YOU, I KNOW THAT THE MOST RECENT PRIORITY WAS DETERMINE WHETHER YOUR CITIZENS WANTED TO REMAIN IN DART AND YOU HAD AN ELECTION TO TRY TO DETERMINE THAT.
AND SO, I'M, I'M, I WANNA SAY THAT I'M PLEASED THAT IT TURNED OUT THE WAY IT DID.
UM, I STAYED OUT OF THAT AS I HAD TO.
UM, I HAD KNOWN THAT I KNOW THE PRIORITY OF ADDISON FOR YEARS WAS GETTING THE SILVER LINE WE CALLED THE COTTON BELT BUILT.
THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO EVERYBODY.
AND YOU SAW THAT FROM THE, FROM THE VOTE, YES.
PEOPLE WHO, WHO, UH, CAME TOGETHER ON, ON THIS.
SO I, I THINK THAT'S THE HIGHEST PRIORITY.
YOU KNOW, WE ALSO, UH, ARE WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF CURRENTLY ON, ON THE MICRO TRANSIT SOLUTION, HOWEVER THAT TURNS OUT, IF WE CAN USE SOME OF OUR FUNDS TO HELP WITH THAT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS WE CAN DO THERE.
I ALSO THINK THAT WITH YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT THET PROGRAM IS IMPORTANT.
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FOLKS HAVE NOT SIGNED UP FOR THAT, BUT YOUR ELIGIBLE FOR IT.MATTER OF FACT, OUR NEXT MEETING NEXT MONTH, WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA INCREASING THAT FROM 10 YEARS TO 20 YEARS.
THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT MORE TO THE REGION, PROBABLY AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT AS THE SILVER LINE BECOMES POPULAR, THE, UH, THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE SYSTEM IS REALLY CRITICAL.
AND CHAIRMAN BRYANT AND I BOTH WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SYSTEM CLOSE.
WHEN I SAY THE SYSTEM, THE SILVER LINE, THE UH, RED LINE, THE ORANGE LINE, ALL BLUE LINE, GREEN LINE, I'LL BE CLOSED IN SOME WAY.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU BUILT A CAGE AROUND IT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH WITH TECHNOLOGY HOW THAT MIGHT BE DONE.
SO WE MANAGE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE TRAIN.
SO THOSE ARE THE MAIN THINGS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A PROCESS OF DOING A SEARCH ON A NEW CEO.
WE WANT TO KEEP ALL OF OUR CITIES, INCLUDING ADDISON INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS.
SO WE HAVE A LOT IN COMMON BETWEEN RICHARDSON AND, UH, AND, AND ADDISON AND I, I THINK I'VE ALWAYS SERVED YOU EXTREMELY WELL, THOUGH COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH DISAGREES WITH THAT.
I WOULD SAY I AM ADAMANT ABOUT HOW STRONGLY I FEEL ABOUT THE SERVICE TO YOUR COMMUNITY.
I, SO, UM, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO US, TO ME IS THAT DART FUNDS ORBIT, THAT'S IMPORTANT.
I JUST WANNA SAY THAT JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT, THAT WHAT DARK DART FUNDS ORBIT IN, IN LIEU OF THE OTHER, UH, GOVERNMENT.
AND, AND THAT'S, I MEAN, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY POSITION ON THAT.
AND 20 YEARS FOR THE TOUR IS GREAT.
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, DARREN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A DISCUSSION WE NEED TO BE HAVING AT THIS, THIS POINT.
SO, UM, THE, UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ADDISON'S PRIORITIES.
WELL, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I, I APPRECIATE AND THANKFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
UM, I, I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF, UH, MR. SLAGEL SERVING ANOTHER TWO YEARS.
UH, I WOULD HATE TO LOSE HIS EXPERIENCE.
I AM, UM, EXCITED THAT, UM, ON THE TABLE IT'S PROPOSED THAT WE WILL HAVE OUR OWN REPRESENTATIVE.
UM, 'CAUSE I THINK I WANT THAT MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
IT'S TIME WE GET OUR OWN VOICE AND HOPEFULLY, UM, THAT'LL GET IT APPROVED IN THE LEGISLATURE.
RANDY, YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, YOU MENTIONED ALL THE, ALL THE, UH, YOU MENTIONED ALL THE RAIL LINES WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT SAFETY.
DOES BUS SAFETY NOT COME UP IN THIS CONVERSATION? BUS SAFETY WILL IS IMPORTANT.
AND, BUT I THINK WE'VE MANAGED THAT PRETTY WELL BECAUSE WE HAVE, WE HAVE A DRIVER THAT ALL PASSENGERS MUST PASS BY.
AND, AND, AND SO FROM A STATISTICAL POINT OF VIEW, BUSES ARE MUCH, WE DON'T SEE THE NEGATIVE ACTIVITY ON BUSES THAT WE DO ON TRAINS.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO SHOW A PASS TO GET ON.
AND, UH, AND SO WE MANAGE THAT AND WE HAVE CAMERAS ON THE, WE'VE HAD CAMERAS ON THE BUSES FOR SOME TIME, AND THAT HELPS, UH, A GREAT DEAL AS WELL.
SO, NOT THAT IT'S NOT IMPORTANT, BUT THE FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON RAIL BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GETTING SO MUCH CRITICISM AND NUMBERS.
BUT UNTIL WE CAN REALLY TURN THAT AROUND WHERE PEOPLE WANT THEIR KIDS TO GO ON THE TRAIN WITH 'EM, OR EVEN ALONE DOWNTOWN TO A GAME OR WHATEVER, UNTIL WE GET TO THAT POINT, WE HAVEN'T SOLVED THE PROBLEM.
AND I, I AGREE THAT DART WAS ORIGINATED TO BE A TRAIN SYSTEM, NOT A BUS SYSTEM.
IT, THE, THE COTTON BELT TRAIL WAS SOLD TO ALL OF US IN THE ORIGINAL PLANS AS BEING ONE OF THE FIRST ROUTES TO GET TO THE AIRPORT.
THEY CALLED IT THE ECONOMIC ENGINE OF THE METROPLEX.
SO THAT WAS SOLD TO BE THE FIRST THING.
DALLAS STARTED GETTING ALL THE, THE WEIGHT ON THE BOARD.
SO EVERYTHING GOT DIVERTED TOWARDS DALLAS.
SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED THE COTTON BELT, YOU'RE 20 YEARS LATE ON THE COTTON BELT AND WAY OVER BUDGET.
AND WE'VE HAD TO COME IN AND, AND PUT EXTRA MONEY IN TO INCENTIVIZE THAT TO COME ALONG.
RANDY, THIS IS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, THE, THE, UH, REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD.
NOT, IT'S NOT ABOUT, I I THIS GOES DIRECTLY TO MR. SLAGEL'S FIGHTING FOR THE ADDISON AND GETTING IT ACROSS.
UH, I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE THE FIRE IN YOUR BELLY FOR THIS ANYMORE.
AND I WOULD THINK ARGUE SOMEONE ELSE, ARGUE WOULD BE BETTER SERVED IN THIS.
RANDY, YOU'VE ALREADY MADE THAT POINT THAT YOU'RE, I WANNA ARGUE WITH YOU, SIR, BUT I WILL TELL YOU, MR. MAYOR, PLEASE DON'T LET GENTLEMEN CUT ME OFF
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WHEN I'M SPEAKING AND YOU CUT ME OFF.WE'RE MAKING A POINT TO GET THE BEST REPRESENTATIVE AND BEST ADVOCATE WE CAN, SIR, FOR ADDISON.
UM, QUESTION, WERE YOU AT THE UNIVERSITY PARK MEETING IN PERSON FURTHER? NO, SIR, I WASN'T.
SO IF YOU HAD CHOSEN TO RETIRE OR NOT SERVE THE NEXT TWO YEARS, DID YOU HAVE, BEING RICHARDSON IS WEIGHTED IN TERMS OF YOUR REPLACEMENT.
DID YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN WEIGHT OR IN MENTORING SOMEBODY IN RICHARDSON TO TAKE YOUR ROLE ON? WELL, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THE DART BOARD.
AND SO I THINK GIVEN THE WAY THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD ON THE DART BOARD.
AND I THINK THEY WILL PROBABLY DO THAT.
SO WE'LL JUST SEE HOW IT TURNS OUT.
BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PERSON IN A SENSE, LYING IN WAIT, OR A MENTORSHIP.
YOU'VE BEEN MENTORING SOMEONE ALONG IN RICHARDSON.
BECAUSE AGAIN, BACK TO MARLIN'S POINT, RICHARDSON IS ALWAYS GONNA OUT, OUT POPULATE ADDISON AND UNIVERSITY PARK.
SO WE WILL NEVER HAVE A A NO, YOU WILL, WITH THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGE, YOU'LL HAVE YOUR OWN REPRESENTATIVE.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO DO THIS FOR ALL THE CITIES.
EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THEIR REPRESENTATIVE.
AND THE DART BOARD ACTUALLY APPROVED A RESOLUTION TO DO THAT DURING THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, BUT IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY LEGS.
EVERYBODY WAS WORRIED ABOUT GETTING 25% BACK AS OPPOSED TO DOING THAT.
SO, BUT WE, WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED AND I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
AND I, AND THE PERSON THAT WILL CARRY THAT BILL, WELL, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHO THAT IS RIGHT NOW, BUT, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT PERSON IS GONNA REALLY BE STRONG IN TERMS OF MAKING THAT HAPPEN BOTH ON THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE SIDE.
SO THEN WITHIN, SO, SO TO GET TO THE, THE CRUX OF MY ISSUE IS WHY DIDN'T UNIVERSITY PARK SUPPORT YOUR NOMINATION? I, I DIDN'T, I DON'T KNOW.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DID OR DIDN'T OR THEY WERE WAITING FOR ME TO BE THERE.
I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA THAT NIGHT OR I WOULD'VE BEEN THERE.
SO THERE, THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M TRYING TO JUST FIGURE THIS PUZZLE PIECE.
WAS THERE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN TEMPORARILY NAMED IF YOU WERE NOT CHOOSING TO RUN FOR ANOTHER OR SERVE FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
I DON'T KNOW THE DATE OF THAT MEETING WHERE IT WAS TABLED.
AND YOU MENTIONED THAT MAYOR, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THE DATE, WHETHER IT WAS BEFORE OR BEFORE RICHARDSON MADE THEIR DECISION OR NOT.
I THINK IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS AFTER.
I THINK IT'S 15 YEARS, IS THAT RIGHT? AS A DAR YES, SIR.
AND, AND THEN ALSO YOUR, YOUR SERVICE ON, UH, CITY OF RICHARDSON COUNCIL.
UM, UH, AS, AS OUR BOARD MEMBER REPRESENTATIVE, DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT AS, AS, UH, TO WHETHER WE SHOULD PURSUE A, THE GMP OR NOT? WELL, I, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THAT WITH THE GMP AS IT'S LAID OUT RIGHT NOW.
WE IN, WE GET UP, WE GET INTO SOME LEGAL CONFLICTS EITHER WAY.
SO OUR, OUR, UH, INTERIM CEO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR CITY MANAGER QUITE A BIT ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WANNA WORK THROUGH THAT.
AND THANK FOR THE COMMENTS FROM, UH, FROM COUNCIL.
UM, AND, AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT YEAR'S LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
'CAUSE THERE'S SOME SEEM TO BE SUPPORT ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, BETWEEN, UH, ALL THE DARK MEMBER CITIES, INCLUDING DALLAS, UH, FOR THE CHANGE IN THE GOVERNANCE AND, UH, UM, AND SUPPORT FROM EVERYBODY I'VE TALKED TO IS SUPPORTIVE OF IT AND, AND ALL, AND THE MAN, THE MEMBER CITIES ALSO.
AND SO, UM, AND WE'RE GETTING GOOD FEEDBACK FROM OUR LEGISLATORS THAT, UH, THAT, UH, WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT HEARING ANYBODY SAYING IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.
SO I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT, UH, THE PROCESS THAT NOBODY SEEMS TO LIKE WILL BE VERY DIFFERENT.
UM, AFTER THE NEXT ALLEGED, UH, LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE REAPPOINTING GARY SLAGEL FOR TO TERM.
DO YOU WANT ME TO HOLD THEM AFTER SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
ANY DISCUSSION THERE? THE COMMENTS ARE, UM, I WAS LATE TO THE GAME MEETING WITH GARY AND, UH, WHEN I REACHED OUT TO MEET WITH HIM THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO, FINALLY, UH, HE WAS VERY WILLING TO MEET WITH ME.
UH, SHAME ON ME FOR NOT REACHING OUT BEFORE.
UM, SO, UH, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE HE KNOWS ADDISON'S PRIORITIES AND, UM, SO THIS IS THE THING, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU BUILD INFLUENCE WHEN YOU HAVE RELATIONSHIPS.
AND FOR US TO BE, UH, REPRESENTED, YOU HAVE TO HAVE INFLUENCE.
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IF YOU GET SOME LITTLE BITTY NEW DOG LIKE ME ON THE, ON THE DART BOARD, I HAVE NO INFLUENCE.SO I APPRECIATE THE INFLUENCE, UH, ON IF WE CONTINUE WITH GARY.
AND IF YOU WANT TO KNOW OR INFLUENCE, UH, YOU'RE SOMEBODY THAT REPRESENTS YOU, MEET WITH HIM IF YOU HAVEN'T MET WITH HIM.
SO I MET WITH HIM AGAIN RECENTLY AND I JUST WANTED TO JUST LEVEL SET TO MAKE SURE, UM, I FOUND THAT HE WAS REALLY OPEN TO MEETING WITH ME.
UM, THERE WAS A DEBACLE LAST YEAR WITH A COUNCIL PERSON TRYING TO MAKE SOME COMMUNICATION.
AND I, I EX I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN I REACHED OUT.
SO I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED AS, AS THE OPENNESS COMMUNICATION.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 2027.
THAT'S THE WAY YOU SHOULD DO IT.
IT SHOULD BE, UH, REPRESENTATIVE FROM EVERY CITY AND THERE'S NO REASON TO, UM, TO CAUSE THIS DISRUPTION BEFORE THIS CHANGE THAT FIXES THIS PROCESS.
SO THAT, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.
[6. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.]
INTO, UH, DO OUR ITEM NUMBER SIX AND THEN, UH, THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND DO OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS AFTERWARDS.SO ITEM NUMBER SIX, UH, ITEM OF COMMUNITY INTERESTS.
IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO SHARE, UH, EXPRESSIONS OF THANKS.
CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE, UH, ET CETERA.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE SOMETHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE? CHANEL, UM, IS MARY HERE? I JUST WANTED TO SAY MARY, GREAT JOB ON THE KICK IT ADDISON EVENT.
SO YOU GUYS DID A WONDERFUL JOB.
AND I WAS OUT THERE ON SUNDAY AND UM, MARY WAS OUT THERE WORKING.
IT SEEMS LIKE Y'ALL WERE OUT THERE LIKE 12 HOURS IN THIS, THE HEAT AND EVERYTHING.
THANK YOU MARY, FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
ANYBODY ELSE? UM, I'VE GOT ONE I'D LIKE TO BRING UP, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO TONIGHT, AS A MATTER OF FACT, UM, ONE OF OUR FORMER RESIDENTS, MARY JO KADER, PASSED AWAY.
UH, SHE LIVED HERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME IN, UH, THREE DIFFERENT HOUSES, I THINK OVER THE YEARS.
AND, UH, THEN SHE, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, SHE MOVED TO, UH, INDEPENDENT LIVING IN PLANO.
UH, AND SHE PASSED AWAY TWO WEEKS AGO.
SHE SERVED ADDISON IN A LOT OF WAYS OVER THE YEARS.
I, I FIRST MET HER WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE CITIZEN ACADEMY TOGETHER IN 2009, I THINK IT WAS.
AND, UH, AND SHE SERVED IN THE ROTARY CLUB, PLANO SYMPHONY, A LOT OF DIFFERENT KIND OF THINGS.
ONE OF THE MOST NOTABLE THINGS THAT SHE DID HERE IN ADDISON, UH, AND I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY A COUPLE YEARS OR SO AGO.
'CAUSE SHE'S A BIG SUPPORTER OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE AND FIRE.
AND SHE, SHE ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT, IS THERE A FUND AVAILABLE FOR, FOR, FOR POLICE TO USE WHENEVER THEY'RE FINDING PEOPLE THAT ARE, THAT ARE HOMELESS OR THEY NEED HELP AND THEY NEED SOME SORT OF ASSISTANCE ALONG THE WAY.
SO SHE MADE THE INITIAL AND, AND SHE DID NOT WANT THIS ANNOUNCED WHILE SHE WAS ALIVE, BUT I FEEL HONORED TO, UH, TO ANNOUNCE IT AFTER HER PASSING THAT SHE, SHE DONATED THE INITIAL $10,000 TO THAT FUND TO ESTABLISH THE COMMUNITY EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE FUND.
AND, UH, CHIEF TELLS ME THAT THEY'VE USED THAT FREQUENTLY OVER, OVER THE YEARS.
AND, UH, IT'S BEEN A, A GREAT BENEFIT.
AND THEY'VE HAD A FEW OTHER DONATIONS ALONG THE WAY.
AND, UH, AND I'D LOVE TO SEE THIS AS A CATALYST FOR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER FOLKS TO START DONATING TO THAT SAME FUND.
'CAUSE IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND, UM, UH, I LOVE THAT SHE, UH, HAD THAT IN HER HEART TO DO THAT FOR ADDISON.
UM, SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND, AND HONOR HER, UH, FOR HER DONATION TO THE TOWN.
I WANTED TO TAG ALONG WITH THAT.
UM, SO, SO THE MAYOR AND I WERE ON THE LEGACY FOUNDATION, UH, SEVERAL YEARS BACK.
AND, AND I HAD NOT MET MARY JO CATER AT THAT POINT, BUT, UH, WE, WE WERE LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS AND SHE WAS THE FIRST ONE WHO CALLED MM-HMM
AND, AND THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF, THE PHONE WASN'T RINGING THAT MUCH, SO IT WAS NICE TO HAVE SOMEBODY CALL.
AND I JUST REMEMBER HER JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, I'M MARRIED TO A CATERER AND, UM, AND I'VE DONE THIS BEFORE.
I'VE DONE FUN RUNS BEFORE AND, AND I'M, I'M LOOKING TO HELP.
SO, UM, THAT IT JUST REMINDED ME OF HER.
SHE WAS ALWAYS LOOKING TO, UH, TO GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY.
YEAH, SHE WAS A, SHE WAS A GREAT COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY SERVICE PERSON AND, UH, GREAT HEART.
AND, UH, ANY, ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, THAT'S THE END OF OUR REGULAR MEETING AGENDA.
SO I ASSUME WE PROBABLY SHOULD TAKE A SHORT BREAK.
WHY DON'T WE TAKE A, UH, 10 MINUTE BREAK AND, UH, WE'LL, UH, RECESS FOR NOW AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND DO OUR WORK SESSION ITEM.
IT IS 8 34 AND WE'LL RECONVENE THE, UH, COUNCIL INTO OUR
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WORK SESSION ITEMS AND[6.a. Present and discuss potential amendments to the Unified Development Code (UDC).]
WE'LL GO RIGHT TO, UM, ITEM SIX A PRESENT AND DISCUSS POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THE UNITED UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE UDC.I'M DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
UM, THIS EVENING I'M HERE TO JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, IF THERE'S ANY DESIRE FROM COUNCIL TO, UM, BRING FORWARD ANY POTENTIAL DISCUSSIONS FOR, UM, POTENTIAL FUTURE AMENDMENTS TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UM, SO A LITTLE BIT, UH, BACKGROUND, UM, AS YOU OR SHOULD ALL, OR AS YOU MAY ALL BE AWARE, UM, WE ADOPTED THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE LAST YEAR IN MARCH.
IT BECAME EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST OF LAST YEAR.
UM, AND, UH, THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE ANTICIPATED THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO DO A LITTLE CLEANUP AFTER THE FACT AFTER WE IMPLEMENTED, UM, THROUGH SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS SINCE THAT TIME.
UM, AS MENTIONED, WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME MINOR CLARIFICATIONS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT ALSO, UM, ONE LARGE, UH, LARGER AMENDMENT THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL SEVERAL TIMES.
UM, MOST RECENTLY AT THE APRIL 7TH WORK SESSION WAS THE ADDITION OF THE PARKS OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICT.
SO, UM, THE INTENT WOULD BE THAT, UH, WE WOULD GET FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL IF, UH, THAT IS THE DESIRE, UH, TO BRING, BRING BACK AT A LATER DATE TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS, UM, RETURNING WITH A RED LINE OF THE DRAFT AT A FUTURE DATE.
SO SOME ITEMS OF NOTE THAT STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED, UM, THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION AND, UM, THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE NEW CODE, UM, THE ONE I ALREADY MENTIONED, WHICH IS THE ADDITION OF THE PARKS OVERLAY DISTRICT.
SOME OTHER MINOR CLARIFICATION ITEMS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UM, INCLUDING, UM, IMPERVIOUS SERVICES.
SO DEFINING MATERIALS AND APPLICATION FOR USING THAT.
UM, FURTHER DEFYING OR CLARIFYING, UH, TREE MITIGATION AND WHEN THAT'S USED, UM, SIGNS SPECIFICALLY THE REQUIREMENTS AS THEY RELATE TO HIGH RISE STRUCTURES.
AND THEN, UM, MINOR MODIFICATIONS.
ONCE AGAIN, ALL OF THESE ARE IN A LOT OF WAYS MINOR GRAMMATICAL THINGS THAT, UM, COULD, UM, SKEW THE INTENT.
SO WE JUST WANT TO BRING CLARITY TO THEM.
UM, CLARIFYING PARKING RATIOS, WHETHER THEY DO OR DO NOT APPLY TO OUTDOOR PATIO SPACES OR DINING AREAS.
UM, ALSO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT FENCE MATERIAL ALLOWANCES AND VARIOUS OTHER LAND USE DEFINITION DEFINITIONS AND CLARIFICATIONS.
UM, WE'VE ALSO, UM, THROUGH VARIOUS ZONING CASES, IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF LAND USES THAT WERE NOT ADDED TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT WE THOUGHT MIGHT BE WORTH A DISCUSSION.
UM, A COUPLE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED INCLUDE A PET GROOMING SERVICE, UM, THAT DOES NOT, THAT WOULD NOT INCLUDE BOARDING OR OTHER SORT OF VETERINARY CARE, UM, AS WELL AS A, UH, LIGHT MEDICAL THAT COULD BE LIKE A MED SPA TYPE OF USE.
SO, UM, THOSE ARE JUST KIND OF TO MAYBE SPARK YOUR, UM, SPARK YOUR BRAINS AS SOME IDEAS OF WHAT STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED.
UM, SO LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED SEQUENCE OF EVENTS, OBVIOUSLY THIS SCHEDULE IS SOMEWHAT FLUID AS WE, UM, OBVIOUSLY HAVE, UM, VARIOUS PRIORITIES AT THE TIME, INCLUDING, UH, THE BUDGET PROCESS.
BUT, UH, WE WILL BE SEEKING FEEDBACK FROM BOTH CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON POTENTIAL, UM, AMENDMENTS OR, UM, TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION FOR AMENDMENTS.
AND WE WOULD COME BACK AT A FUTURE DATE, UH, WITH A RED LINE DRAFT OF THAT DOCUMENT AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, FURTHER DISCUSSIONS AS WELL AS, AND THEN INTO THE, UH, APPROVAL PROCESS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE PUBLIC NOTICE TO THE ENTIRE TOWN, TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN ADDISON.
AND THEN IT WOULD NEED TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE FIRST AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AS WELL AS THE SECOND AT CITY COUNCIL.
SO IT'S KIND OF WHAT THE TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE.
UM, SO, UM, WITH THAT I'M ASKING IF THERE'S ANY, ANY FEEDBACK AT THIS TIME THAT WE CAN, UM, DISCUSS OR I CAN TAKE AND WE CAN ALSO ACCEPT ANY FEEDBACK VIA EMAIL.
AND WE WILL ALSO MAKE SURE TO PROVIDE THE DOCUMENT, UH, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE VIA EMAIL.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, YOU CAN MAKE COMMENTS DIRECTLY IN THE DOCUMENT, UM, THAT STAFF HAS ACCESS TO.
AND, UM, SO WE'LL, WE WILL CHECK WITH COUNSEL, SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY SPECIFIC FEEDBACK NOW, BUT DO YOU SEE THE PROCESS AS BEING MORE, UM, WOULD IT BE, WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO US TO DO IT VIA EMAIL SO YOU'VE GOT IT IN WRITING OR, UH, AND WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO KIND OF CONTEMPLATE EVERYTHING THAT'S, THAT'S WITHIN THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE AMENDMENTS? YEAH, E EITHER WAY.
UM, SO I SUSPECTED YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE EVERYTHING ON THE TOP OF YOUR, TOP OF YOUR MIND EXACTLY WHAT YOU THINK, BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME IN YOUR BACK POCKET THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DIG UP LATER.
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SO I'M HAPPY TO ACCEPT THEM VIA, VIA EMAIL OR ANY OTHER METHOD.UM, I'D BE HAPPY IF ANYONE WANTS TO HAVE A, JUST A CONVERSATION, HAVE A MEETING AND TALK, WALK, TALK THROUGH SOME THINGS.
I'M ALSO HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
UM, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME, BE HAPPY TO ACCEPT IT.
AND WE'LL KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE PROCESS, IF YOU GIVE US TOPICS OR THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO EXPLORE, UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN EXACT IDEA OF WHAT YOU WANT THAT TO LOOK LIKE, UH, WE'LL DO THE DI DUE DILIGENCE AND BRING BACK SOME OPTIONS, BRING BACK, UM, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS, MAYBE WE'LL LOOK AT OUR COMPARATOR CITIES, UM, AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OF, OF WHAT IS THE BEST ALTERNATIVE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF, WE'RE LOOKING FOR TOPIC AREAS SO WE CAN DO OUR RESEARCH AND DUE DILIGENCE AND BRING THAT BACK FORTH, UM, AND HAVE A CONSTRUCTIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE.
YEAH, THAT'S, UH, I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE IT ALL OFF TOP OF MY HEAD AND, AND, UH, I WOULD NEED, WANT MORE TIME TO, TO STUDY A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY.
UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO HEAR FROM COUNCIL IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS SPECIFIC FEEDBACK RIGHT NOW, OR IF YOU'D PREFER TO DO SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS, UH, THAT WE, THAT LESLIE OUTLINED THERE.
RANDY, JUST A QUESTION ON OUR PRESENTATION HERE, UH, A PARK OVERLAY MM-HMM
WE SEEM TO GET A LOT OF PUSHBACK ON THAT WHEN WE WERE SUGGESTING, OR AM I TO UNDERSTAND NOW THAT YOU'RE AMENABLE TO DOING A PARK OVERLAY, SO THAT, THAT WAS, UM, COUNCIL'S DIRECTION OVER SEVERAL, UM, MEETINGS AND AT THE IT IT WAS, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS, WE WERE REALLY HAVING TO TRY TO TALK YOU INTO THAT.
SO, I MEAN, WE'VE KIND OF CROSSED THAT BRIDGE NOW.
SO AT THE, UH, APRIL 7TH MEETING, UM, STAFF BROUGHT FORWARD A PROPOSAL, KIND OF A RED LINE.
UM, AND THAT IS, I MEAN, WE WILL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT'S NOT SET IN STONE, BUT THAT IS AT THIS STAGE WHAT, UM, STAFF IS PROPOSING FOR THAT PARK OVERLAY DISTRICT.
AND THE COMMERCIAL SIGNS WE HAD, WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE WHEN THE UUDC FIRST ROLLED OUT ON THESE COMMERCIAL SIGNS FOR LEASE.
HAVE, HAVE WE GOTTEN PAST THAT HURDLE THAT WE'RE GONNA ALLOW THOSE AS WELL FOR OUR COMMERCIAL? YEAH, SO AN INTERPRETATION HAS BEEN MADE.
UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT, UM, WE'LL DEFINITELY WORK WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE INTERPRETATION IS, IS MORE CLEAR.
I WOULD CERTAINLY, THERE'S NO AMBIGUITY.
I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE US TO WORK WITH THOSE WHEN THEY GET SUN FADED AND STARTED LOOKING RATTY TO, TO SPRUCE 'EM UP.
BUT I THINK THAT'S VERY VITAL TO THEIR, TO THEIR BUSINESS TO BE ABLE TO RENT.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT, CHRIS.
SO LESLIE, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
UH, JUST FROM A PROCESS PERSPECTIVE, SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR FEEDBACK JUST ON THE POSSIBLE AMENDMENT, SO WE'VE GOT IN FRONT OF US, IS THAT RIGHT? JUST ANY, ANY TOPICS IF THERE IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO YOUR HEART OR YOU'VE HEARD FROM, UM, OKAY.
RESIDENTS OR BUSINESS OWNERS THAT YOU THINK STAFF SHOULD EXPLORE FOR, FOR FURTHER.
WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T LIKE THE, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF A GOOD EXAMPLE I UNDERSTAND ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
BECAUSE I, WHERE I WAS GOING WAS, YOU'RE ALSO GONNA PUT A RED LINE TOGETHER.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A RED LINE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT NOW THAT CONTAINS SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS YOU'RE PROPOSING OR YOU WANT EVERYONE'S FEEDBACK, THEN YOU'LL GET US RED LINE OF CHANGES.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF OUR THOUGHT.
SO WE WILL GET YOU A RED LINE REGARDLESS, AND WE, THIS WILL BE A VERY FLUID AND UM, UM, ITERATIVE PROCESS, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO ASK THE QUESTION FIRST AND IF YOU HAD, UM, ANY STRONG TOPICS ABOUT CHANGES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WE'RE GONNA DO THAT DUE DILIGENCE UP FRONT AND REALLY MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, UM, BAKED IN TO HELP US HAVE A, A MORE CONSTRUCTIVE PROCESS AND CONVERSATION.
IF I RECALL THE, THE, UM, THE FRICTION WAS MORE CREATING, CALLING ALL PARKS THEIR OWN SEPARATE ZONE.
AND THE PARK OVERLAY DISTRICT WAS MORE, UH, EVERYBODY MORE AGREED TO THAT, HAVING THE OVERLAY TO, TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I, I RECALL THAT IT WASN'T PUSHBACK ON THE DISTRICT, THE OVERLAY, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS THE COMPLICATION OF, UH, HAVING EVERY PARK ZONED AS A PARK, UH, BECAUSE OF O OTHER THINGS, UH, RELATED THERE.
DAN, THANK YOU LESLIE, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
SO WITH THE SURVEYS THAT ARE OUT RIGHT NOW ABOUT BIKE LANES, ABOUT TREE WELLS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING RESIDENTS TO GIVE US FEEDBACK.
WILL THAT HAVE ANY BEARING ON REDLINING OR POTENTIAL ADJUSTMENTS WITHIN THE UDC PRIOR TO, OR THEREAFTER LIKELY NOT.
SO THOSE, UM, THOSE TOPICS YOU MENTIONED, THOSE ARE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, OR PUBLIC, UH, IMPROVEMENTS IN THE, IN PUBLICLY OWNED PROPERTY.
AND THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IS PRIMARILY FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT OR PRIVATE PROPERTY.
IN THIS CASE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PARKS OVERLAY DISTRICT.
SO, UM, THERE'S SOME CAVEAT THERE, BUT, UH, FOR THOSE THINGS IT REALLY WOULDN'T APPLY TO THE, THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UM, SO I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON, SO LESLIE, YOU'RE GONNA REACH OUT
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TO US AND YES, WE'LL GET SOMETHING TO MOVE US FORWARD.YEAH, WE'LL SEND OUT AN EMAIL, UM, LIKELY TOMORROW WITH, UM, THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU CAN, UM, PUT COMMENTS IN.
BUT AS ALWAYS, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT OR SEND ANYTHING JUST VIA EMAIL.
UM, AND THEN YEAH, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO OKAY.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
[6.b. Present and discuss the Proposed Annual Budget for the Town of Addison for Fiscal Year 2027 beginning October 1, 2026, and ending September 30, 2027, including but not limited to, commercial utility rates.]
SIX B PRESENTED, DISCUSS THE PROPOSED ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027, BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2026, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO COMMERCIAL UTILITY RATES.UH, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND MAYOR.
WE DID SHORTEN DOWN THE, THAT BUDGET CAPTION QUITE A BIT FOR YOU THIS YEAR.
UM, AND WE, WE PLAN TO DO THAT THE REST OF THE PROCESS.
SO WELCOME TO OUR, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2027, UH, BUDGET PROCESS.
THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST, UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT ITEMS CONCERNING THE BUDGET.
SO YOU DO NOTICE OUR THEME, UH, ON, ON OUR SLIDE, CONNECTING THE DOTS.
AND WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING TO TALK ABOUT COMMERCIAL UTILITY RATES.
UM, SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
SO WHEN WE WERE AT OUR, UH, STRATEGIC PLANNING, YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION EARLIER THIS YEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT PROPERTY TAX RATES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
UH, SO WE, WE, UH, STAFF REALLY BEGAN TO LOOK AT, UH, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH OUR COMMERCIAL RATE STRUCTURE AND HOW ARE WE USING OUR UTILITY FUND TO KIND OF, UH, SUPPORT, UH, SOME OF OUR GENERAL FUND ACTIVITIES THAT MAY BE SUBSIDIZING THAT UTILITY FUND.
SO WE LOOKED AT ALL OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES AND WE COMPARED THOSE TO ADDISON'S RATE STRUCTURE AND THERE WERE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FINDINGS.
UH, ONE, AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT OUR RATE STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE IN THE SUBSEQUENT SLIDE, BUT WE'RE THE ONLY CITY THAT BILLS OUR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER CUSTOMERS BY THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THEY ARE, UH, RATHER THAN THE SIZE OF THEIR METER.
UH, WE'RE ONLY ONE OF TWO CITIES OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES THAT DID NOT CHANGE THE BASE CHARGE BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE METER.
SO WE CHARGE THE SAME RATE TO COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE OF THE METER.
AND THEN YOU'LL NOTICE THAT OUR BASE CHARGES, UH, FOR OUR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THE AVERAGE OF OUR, OUR COMPARISON CITIES.
AND BECAUSE THEY INCREASE THE SIZE OF THEIR CHARGES, UH, AS THE METER SIZE INCREASES, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THAT, UH, DIFFERENCE INCREASES DRAMATICALLY, UH, AS THE METER SIZE INCREASES.
SO EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS TONIGHT, UH, IS REALLY FOCUSED ON COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS AND WILL NOT IMPACT THE RESIDENTIAL UTILITY RATE STRUCTURE.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS OUR CURRENT COMMERCIAL RATE TABLE, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS.
WE HAVE CLASSIFICATIONS FOR MULTIFAMILY.
UH, WE CONSIDER A LARGE METER TO BE A TWO INCH OR, OR A LARGER METER.
A SMALL METER IS A METER THAT'S LESS THAN TWO INCHES.
UM, SO WE HAVE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS FOR MULTIFAMILY, UH, MUNICIPAL SCHOOLS.
THEN WE HAVE COMMERCIAL CLASSIFICATION INDUSTRIAL, AND WE EVEN HAVE ONE FOR HOTELS AND MOTELS.
UH, SO WE'RE THE ONLY CITY OUT OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES THAT HAVE A RATE STRUCTURE THAT IS SPECIFIC TO THE TYPE OF USER RATHER THAN THAN THE SIZE OF THE METER.
SO FOR SOME CONTEXT, BECAUSE I'M GONNA SHOW YOU A LOT OF SLIDES THAT ARE COMPARING OUR COMMERCIAL RATES, UH, UH, TO OUR COMPARISON CITIES, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR RESIDENTIAL RATES AND HOW WE COMPARE TO OUR, OUR, UH, COMPARISON CITIES, UH, WE ARE ONE OF THE LOWER RESIDENTIAL, UH, UH, WE, WE DO HAVE ONE OF THE LOWER RESIDENTIAL WATER AND SEWER CHARGES OF THE COMPARISON CITY.
SO, UH, RIGHT NOW OUR AVERAGE CUSTOMER THAT USES ABOUT 8,000 GALLONS A MONTH OF WATER AND SEWER IS GONNA PAY ABOUT $105 PER MONTH, AND THAT'S ABOUT 12% LESS THAN THE AVERAGE OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES.
AND JUST TO NOTE THAT THOSE RATES THAT ARE SHOWN HERE ARE BASED ON THE CURRENT, UH, ADOPTED RATES FOR ALL OF THE CITIES LISTED.
SO IF WE LOOK AT A ONE INCH COMMERCIAL METER, UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY ABOUT 25% LESS THAN THE AVERAGE OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES.
UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 250 CUSTOMERS THAT ARE IN THIS CLASS.
UH, THE, UH, THERE'S THE CURRENT RATE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT $127.
UH, THERE'S THREE CITIES THAT ARE LOWER THAN THAT CURRENTLY.
UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE, UH, A RATE THAT WOULD ADJUST, UH, TO A PROPOSED RATE FOR ADDISON FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, OF ABOUT $162, UH, FOR A, UH, ONE INCH COMMERCIAL METER.
SO THAT PUTS US, UH, AND, AND ALL OF THESE RATES THAT I'M GONNA SHOW YOU PUT US WITHIN ABOUT 10%, UH, OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES.
SO 25% IS THE LOWEST OR THE CLOSEST THAT WE GET TO OUR COMPARISON CITIES.
UH, AS I GO FORWARD, SOME OF THESE NUMBERS ARE GONNA JUMP UP QUITE A BIT AND WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, FURTHER AND FURTHER, UH, UH, DOWN TO THE LEFT, UH, AS THE LOWEST COST PROVIDER.
SO A ONE INCH COMMERCIAL OR ONE AND A HALF INCH COMMERCIAL METER, YOU CAN SEE
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THAT, UH, OUR RATE DOES NOT CHANGE.UH, WE, UH, CHARGE ABOUT 40% LESS THAN THE AVERAGE OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES, UH, FOR A ONE AND A HALF INCH, UH, COMMERCIAL METER.
UH, THERE'S 151 CUSTOMERS IN THIS RATE CLASS.
AND AGAIN, THE SAME, UH, THE, THE GREEN BAR IS OUR CURRENT RATE.
UH, THE, THE BLUE, THE LIGHT BLUE, UH, BAR IS THE PROPOSED RATE, WHICH WOULD PUT US, UH, WITHIN ABOUT 10% OF THE AVERAGE OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES.
AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED, UH, IN ONE OF THE PREVIOUS SLIDES, WE HAVE CURRENTLY HAVE SMALL AND LARGE CLASSIFICATIONS.
SO OUR TWO INCH METER IS A LARGE CLASSIFICATION.
SO CURRENTLY, UH, 420, UH, $429 IS WHAT, UH, THE AVERAGE TWO INCH COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER PAYS IN ADDISON.
THAT IS 34% LESS THAN THE AVERAGE OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES.
UH, THIS IS THE LARGEST CLASS OF CUSTOMER THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMERCIAL BASE, 355 CUSTOMERS.
UM, IN THAT CLASS YOU CAN SEE, AND YOU'LL NOTICE, UH, SOME OF THE CITIES ON THE FAR RIGHT, THEY BEGIN TO INCREASE, UH, PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY AS WELL.
UH, THE THREE INCH METER WE ARE, THERE'S ONE CITY THAT, THAT HAS A LOWER RATE THAN US.
UH, WE'RE 65% LESS THAN THE AVERAGE OF THE COMMERCIAL.
UH, WE HAVE 46 CUSTOMERS THAT ARE IN THIS CLASS.
AND THEN AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE, UH, WE, WE, WE MOVED TO THE LEFT BECAUSE OUR RATE DOESN'T CHANGE, UH, THE OTHER CITIES WITH THE RATE, WITH THEIR RATES THAT CHANGE, UH, CONTINUE TO, UH, GENERATE MORE, UH, REVENUE FROM, FROM THE LARGER METER SIZES, UH, FOUR INCH COMMERCIAL METER.
AGAIN, OUR RATE STAYS AT THE $429.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE 95% LESS, UH, THAN THE AVERAGE OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES, AND WE HAVE 65 CUSTOMERS THAT ARE IN THIS CLASSIFICATION.
AND THEN MOVING ON TO THE SIX INCH METER, UH, WE ARE THE LOWEST COST PROVIDER FOR A SIX INCH METER.
UH, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE STILL AT $429.
UH, BY COMPARISON, PLANO IS AT $2,600 PER MONTH.
SO I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TAX RATES A LOT, UH, BUT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT SOMETHING AND THE OVERALL COST OF PROVIDING SERVICE TAX RATE IS ONE COMPONENT, UH, WHERE A TWO INCH OR SIX INCH CUSTOMER IN PLANO IS GONNA PAY ABOUT 25 TO $30,000 MORE JUST ON THEIR WATER BILL PER YEAR THAN THEY'RE GONNA PAY AN ADDISON CURRENTLY.
UM, IT TAKES A LOT OF PROPERTY TAX TO MAKE UP THAT $30,000.
UH, SO ADDISON'S SIX INCH COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS ARE CURRENTLY PAYING 173% LESS THAN THE AVERAGE OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES.
WE DO ONLY HAVE 18 CUSTOMERS IN THIS CLASSIFICATION, AND WE DO HAVE ONE EIGHT INCH METER, UH, THROUGHOUT TOWN.
I DID NOT MAKE A CHART JUST FOR THE ONE METER.
YOU CAN, I THINK YOU CAN SEE THE THEME HERE.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE LESS THAN THAN, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE EIGHT INCH CUSTOMERS AND ALL OF THE OTHER CITIES ARE GONNA BE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER.
I BELIEVE WE WERE AROUND 275% LESS THAN THE AVERAGE ON THE EIGHT INCH METER.
UM, SO BASICALLY OUR RATES STAY THE SAME.
OTHER CITIES ARE INCREASING THE RATES, AND I'LL GET INTO WHY, UH, A LITTLE BIT LATER.
SO, UH, WELL, I GUESS I'LL GET INTO WHY RIGHT NOW.
SO, UH, THE, THE, THE REASON THAT CITIES INCREASE THE RATES IS AS THE METER SIZE GETS LARGER IS BECAUSE THE COST TO DELIVER THAT SERVICE INCREASES WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGER METER.
SO I'VE GOT SOME EXAMPLES HERE OF WHAT THE METER COSTS, WHAT THE PIPE, UH, TO THE METER COSTS.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT SAY, A TWO INCH METER, WHICH WE CONSIDER A LARGE METER, THAT METER GENERALLY COSTS ABOUT $700.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN EIGHT INCH METER, THAT METER COSTS 10 TIMES THAT IT COSTS ABOUT $7,000.
SO WHEN CITIES LOOK AT THESE THINGS, THEY, THEY GENERALLY DON'T SAY, WELL, I'M GONNA CHARGE THE SAME RATE AS SOMEONE THAT'S THAT IT, THAT COSTS 10 TIMES THE PRICE TO DELIVER THE SERVICE.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE REASON THAT YOU SEE THOSE INCREMENTAL INCREASES IN, IN RATES AT VARIOUS OTHER CITIES.
UM, JUST BECAUSE THE COST TO DELIVER THE SERVICE THROUGH THE PIPE AND WITH THE, UH, PLACEMENT OF THE METER, UH, INCREASE SUBSTANTIALLY IS THE METER SIZE INCREASES.
SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I SHOWED YOU THE, THE LIGHT BLUE LINES THAT WERE LISTED THERE, AND THEY WERE, MOST OF THEM WERE WITHIN ZERO TO 10% OF THE COMPARISON CITIES.
SO BASICALLY PUTTING US WITHIN RANGE OF WHAT OUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS ARE CURRENTLY PLACED AT.
SO THIS IS A PROPOSED RATE TABLE, WHICH KIND OF SCRAPS THE, BASED ON THE TYPE OF BUSINESS SCRAPS BEING A MULTIFAMILY OR AN INDUSTRIAL, AND GOES TO A STRAIGHT, UH, COMMERCIAL, UH, RATE, UH, RATE, UH, THAT IS BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE METER.
SO AS I WENT THROUGH ALL OF THOSE, THE ONLY ONE THAT I DIDN'T GO THROUGH IS AN EIGHT INCH OR LARGER.
UH, BUT BASICALLY THIS WOULD CHANGE OUR RATE STRUCTURE TO, UH, A MORE COMMON STRUCTURE AND IT HAS A INCREMENTAL INCREASES BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE METER, UH, AND THE COST TO DELIVER THOSE SERVICES.
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IT REALLY GENERATES, YOU KNOW, SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE, BUT IT'S MORE EQUITABLY, EQUITABLY, UH, RECOVERS THE COST TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.AND I'M GONNA GET INTO WHY WE, WHY WE WERE PROPOSING DOING THIS.
AND IT'S REALLY SOME PROPERTY TAX RELIEF.
SO THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE REVI, UH, FROM THIS RATE SRU REVISED RATE STRUCTURE, UH, COULD GO TOWARDS PROPERTY TAX RELIEF.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST BUDGETS WITH THE STORMWATER FUND IS WHEN WE GO OUT AND WE DO A ROAD RECONSTRUCTION, WE'RE REPLACING ALL THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, WELL, IF IT'S A FULL RECONSTRUCTION, GENERALLY THOSE, THOSE BONDS HAVE BEEN ISSUED AND BACKED BY PROPERTY TAX AND REPAID BY PROPERTY TAX.
UH, A FEW YEARS AGO WE STARTED TRANSFERRING SOME MONEY FROM THE STORMWATER FUND TO HELP PAY FOR BONDS THAT ARE ISSUED FOR THOSE PURPOSES.
IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT THAT WE USE FOR THAT BECAUSE WE ARE REPLACING, UH, WATER AND SEWER LINES WHEN WE'RE DOING MAJOR ROAD RECONSTRUCTIONS AS WELL.
UH, SO THIS PROPOSAL WOULD, UH, TRANSFER, UH, ABOUT $917,000 NEXT, UH, BUDGET, UH, FROM THE UTILITY FUND TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND.
AND THAT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE TO GENERATE THAT $917,000 FROM PROPERTY TAXES.
UH, ON THE OTHER HAND, UH, IN THE GENERAL FUND, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING A 5%, UH, FRANCHISE FEE.
UH, THIS IS A FRANCHISE FEE THAT'S CHARGED TO ELECTRIC PROVIDERS TO, UH, ATMO ENERGY TO CABLE PROVIDERS.
SO ANYONE, UH, ANY OTHER UTILITY THAT'S USING THE TOWN'S RIGHT OF WAY IS PAYING A 5% FRANCHISE FEE.
THIS APPLIES THAT SAME, UH, FRANCHISE FEE TO OUR UTILITY THAT WOULD GENERATE A LITTLE UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE TO THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH WOULD HELP OFFSET, UH, PROPERTY TAXES TO THE GENERAL FUND AS WELL.
AND JUST A COMPARISON OF HOW OTHER CITIES, HOW OUR OTHER COMPARISON CITIES ARE USING UTILITY REVENUE.
UH, THERE'S THREE CITIES, UH, CURRENTLY, UH, OTHER THAN ADDISON THAT ARE NOT USING ANY UTILITY REVENUE, UH, UH, FOR THEIR GENERAL FUND.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A, A PRETTY BIG, UH, DIVIDE HERE AS FAR AS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HIGHER USE CITIES AND THE, AND THE ONES THAT AREN'T USING ANY.
SO, UH, THE HIGHEST USE CITY RIGHT NOW IS CITY OF ALLEN.
SO THEY'RE FUNDING ABOUT 8.5% OF THEIR GENERAL FUND, UH, WITH THEIR UTILITY REVENUE.
UH, THEN YOU HAVE PLANO ABOUT 5.2%.
UH, THE AVERAGE, UH, OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES, THEY'RE ON AVERAGE FUNDING ABOUT 2.4% OF THEIR GENERAL FUND WITH UTILITY REVENUE.
UH, SO OUR PROPOSAL, WHICH IS A 5% FRANCHISE FEE TO THE GENERAL FUND WOULD FUND SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1.8 AND 1.9% OF THE GENERAL FUND, UH, WITH UTILITY REVENUE, MEANING THAT BASICALLY WE DON'T HAVE TO GENERATE PROPERTY TAX, UH, FOR, UH, THAT PORTION OF THE GENERAL FUND.
AND THEN, UH, THAT IS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FEEDBACK ON IF THIS IS SOMETHING COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER, UH, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
UM, HEY, STEVEN, DO, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE START THIS SLIDE ON PAGE TWO AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, CHARGING BY BUSINESS TYPE, DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT WHY WE WOULD DO THAT? THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DID THAT.
UH, WE, WE HAD A RATE STUDY IN 2018 BEFORE I STARTED.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT THIS HAS BEEN THE WAY IT'S BEEN FOR, FOR A REALLY LONG TIME.
SO YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU CAN TELL ME DIFFERENTLY, I'M, I'M, I'M ALL FOR ABANDONING THAT, THAT TYPE OF THOUGHT.
AND, UM, AND I, I GET, UH, CHANGING THAT BY, UH, WATER METER, WATER METER SIZE.
UM, I DO, I DO NEED SOME HELP REFRESHING MY MEMORY ON THIS UTILITY RATE MODEL THAT WE DID MAYBE IN 2018 AND UPDATED IN 2022 IS, WAS THAT, UM, WAS THAT FOR ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR WATER AND SEWER RATES, IT IS FOR ALL OF THE WATER AND SEWER RATES.
SO THEY'RE TAKING, IT'S NOT JUST THE RATES, IT'S REALLY MODELING THE EXPENDITURES, THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, NEED TO ISSUE RIGHT.
BONDS AND ALL OF THOSE INPUTS AND DETERMINING WHAT THE RATES NEED TO BE SET AT.
IT DIDN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S, UH, BUSINESS TYPE OR RESIDENTIAL.
IT WAS ALL, ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR UTILITY.
SO, YEAH, THE ONLY THOUGHT I HAD ON THAT IS IT JUST SEEMED LIKE ON THAT MODEL, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THESE CERTAIN YEARS AND CERTAIN INCREASES OR NOT, DEPENDING ON THE, THE MODEL MM-HMM
UM, IT SEEMED TO ME THAT WE, WHEN WE DID THAT, WE WERE, WE WERE REALLY FOCUSED ON COST RECOVERY BLENDED OUT THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM.
AND THIS IS, AND SO I, I GET IT, I LIKE IT.
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BUT, UM, WE ARE CHANGING A THOUGHT, I THINK AS FAR AS FROM COST RECOVERY TO COST RECOVERY PLUS MAYBE, UH, THREE UP TO 3% OR SOMETHING TO, TO FUND SOMETHING ELSE, IT'S STILL COST RECOVERY, BUT IT'S A MORE EQUITABLE COST RECOVERY BECAUSE RIGHT.WITHOUT A, THE DOUBT, THE COST TO DELIVER THE, WITHOUT A DOUBT, METERS, ALL I'M POINTING OUT IS IT'S, IT'S COST RECOVERY, IT'S EQUITABLE COST RECOVERY, BUT IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN COST RECOVERY BECAUSE WE GET INTO THE LAST SLIDE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 3% MORE TO FUND OTHER THINGS.
SO I, YOU KNOW, IN MY MIND IT'S A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL WITH.
AND SO IF WE DO THIS, DO, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I LOOKED AT THESE RATE MODELS.
DO WE MODIFY THE WORDING ON THAT? SO WE, I MEAN, THIS IS A COST, AND IT REALLY, IT'S A COST THAT YOU WOULD BE SETTING, YOU KNOW, TO ASSESS TO THE UTILITY FUNDS SIMILAR TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE CHARGE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CHARGE A FRANCHISE FEE TO OTHER, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC UTILITIES.
SO, UM, AS, AS FAR AS CHANGE, I MEAN, SO IT IS A COST THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE RECOVERED BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE GONNA CHARGE THE COST.
YOU JUST HAPPEN TO BE THE, THE ENTITY THAT'S CHARGING THE COST.
THE COST PART IS NOT IN QUESTION.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOING FROM, I THINK JUST, UH, MAYBE EDITING SOME TEXTS.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING FROM JUST COVERING OUR COST TO, TO COVERING OUR COST AND PLUS 3% OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER WE'RE TRYING TO YEAH.
SO THAT, THAT WAS THE ONLY THOUGHT THAT, THAT, THAT I CAME UP WITH WHEN YEAH.
WELL, THE FRANCHISE IN THE UTILITY FUND WOULD BE A COST TO THE UTILITY FUND TOO.
WELL, WELL, I'M SORRY, ONE MORE TIME ON THAT.
SO THE, THE, THE FRANCHISE FEE THAT'S GONNA BE PAID TO THE GENERAL FUND MM-HMM
WOULD BE A COST IN THE UTILITY FUND.
SO IT ESSENTIALLY IS A COST, ANOTHER COST.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEN SO IF YOU GO TO SLIDE 12.
AND THEN, UH, SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE RAN INTO, WE RAN INTO THIS AT THE HOA LEVEL, UM, WHERE WE WERE ACTUALLY BREAKING DOWN THE, THE AMOUNT OF WATER WE WERE USING AND WHAT WE NEEDED AND THE WATER METER SIZES AND SO FORTH.
SO THE ONLY, THE ONLY OTHER EXTRA THOUGHT I'D HAVE IS, UM, IS SOME OF THESE, UM, THE, THE VOLUME LEVELS WHERE THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE THE SAME.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, HAVE WE LOOKED INTO THAT? WHETHER WE MIGHT WANT TO CHANGE THOSE SO THAT THEY'RE NOT ALL THE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF 'EM ARE THE, SO SOME OF 'EM ARE DIFFERENT.
SO I DIDN'T CHANGE WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE RATE MODEL OR CURRENTLY IN THE ADOPTED, UH, UH, RATE STRUCTURE.
SO RIGHT NOW, IF IT'S LESS THAN A TWO INCH METER, YOU KNOW, ON A COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THOSE RATE CLASSES, UH, FIVE, UH, THOUSAND GALLONS IS INCLUDED.
THEN ANYTHING OVER TWO INCH IS 37,000 GALLONS.
THAT IS YOU, THAT IS GENERALLY A PRETTY HIGH AMOUNT THAT'S INCLUDED IN A BASE CHARGE.
UM, WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT REDUCING THAT 37,000.
UH, I THINK THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
WELL, ANY OF THESE THAT ARE SAME.
I WHAT, WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS, I DON'T THINK WHAT WE WANT IS PEOPLE CHANGING THEIR WATER METER TO TO, TO GAME THE GAME.
THAT, THAT, THAT WAS JUST A GENERAL THOUGHT.
AND I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT PROPOSING ANY, ANYTHING OTHER THAN I HOPE WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT SURE.
UM, AND LAST QUESTION I HAD IS, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THIS SLIDE 12, YOU'VE GOT COMMERCIAL AND THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR RATES, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT IRRIGATION.
OTHER THAN, OTHER THAN IRRIGATION DOESN'T HAVE SEWER.
UM, WHY DO, WHY DOES IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF GOING BACK TO WHY DOES IT MATTER WHETHER IT'S IRRIGATION OR, OR OTHER YEAH, WE, WE DO CHARGE, UM, A HIGHER RATE FOR IRRIGATION.
UM, AND THAT'S IN THE CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE.
UH, IF YOU HAVE AN IRRIGATION ONLY METER, UM, I THINK THE, THE VOLUME RATE IS ABOUT CLOSE TO $7 PER THOUSAND GALLONS.
UH, OUR REGULAR CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE SEWER SERVICE BECAUSE THEY'RE USING IT FOR CLEANING OR, YOU KNOW, BATHING OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU USE IT IN YOUR HOME FOR FLUSHING YOUR TOILET.
THAT IS, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY, AND IT'S NOT AN UNCOMMON PRACTICE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST YOUR REGULAR USAGE THAT HAS SEWER SERVICE AS WELL IS CHARGED A LOWER VOLUME RATE THAN, THAN IRRIGATION IS IRRIGATION'S JUST USED FOR KEEPING PLANTS AND TURF ALIVE.
UH, SO IT GETS GENERALLY A, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER CHARGE.
UM, SO OUR GENERAL CUSTOMERS, IT'S A STANDARD THAT'S KIND OF A STANDARD.
SO OUR CHARGE IS ABOUT TWO, I THINK $2 AND 75 CENTS HIGHER PER A THOUSAND GALLONS FOR IRRIGATION CUSTOMERS.
THANK YOU STEVEN, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, SO A COUPLE QUESTIONS, AND I'M SORRY I DON'T UNDERSTAND OR KNOW THE ANSWER TO
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THIS, BUT IF YOU LOOK ON SLIDE THREE, IT STARTS OFF WITH MULTIFAMILY LARGE MM-HMMWHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST IS JUST THE BASE CHARGE, RIGHT? OF EVERYTHING.
THESE ARE JUST THE BASE CHARGES.
SO WHAT WOULD WE BE AFFECTING FOR A, A MULTIFAMILY LARGE? AND WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS, I GET IT, WE'RE, WE'RE INCREASING THE BASE CHARGE, BUT COULD THIS ULTIMATELY LEAD TO HIGHER UTILITY COSTS FOR THOSE RESIDENTS, OR THEY ALL, THEY'RE ALL SEPARATE METERS, SO THIS WON'T AFFECT THEM AS FAR AS INDIVIDUALS WITHIN YEAH, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE LANDLORD, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
SO I THINK THAT THEY, SOME OF THEM, UH, COULD BE INDIVIDUALLY METERED, BUT SOME OF THEM, THE LANDLORD MAY BE, I, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT.
SO THEY'RE NOT ALL INDIVIDUALLY METERED.
SO IT COULD INCREASE THE EXPENSE TO THE, SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTS IN THOSE APARTMENT COMPLEX COMPLEXES.
AND THEN HOTELS, UM, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT RATE TABLE, YOU'VE GOT HOTELS THAT, THAT'S BROKEN OUT, BUT I DON'T SEE IT ANYWHERE IN THE, UH, COMPARISONS.
HOW ARE WE GONNA HANDLE HOTELS? WELL, SO A HOTEL WOULD JUST BE A COMMERCIAL BASED ON THE TYPE, THE SIZE OF THE METER THAT THEY HAVE.
SO RIGHT NOW WE CHARGE ANY HOTEL REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE OF METER THEY HAVE, AND THEY GET A HUNDRED THOUSAND METERS IN THEIR BASE CHARGE, AND THEY PAY $1,132 PER MONTH.
AND IF THEY USE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS, THEY'LL PAY FOR THE, FOR THE USAGE THAT THEY HAVE BEYOND THAT.
SO DEPENDING, DEPENDING ON WHAT SIZE THEY HAVE COMING IN THEN, SO, AND WE HAVE MANY DIFFERENT SIZES OF HOTELS, SO WE HAVE MANY DIFFERENT METER SIZES THAT ARE GOING TO THOSE PROPERTIES AS WELL.
SO, UM, SOME OF THEM PROBABLY WOULD PAY LESS THAN, UH, WHAT'S LISTED HERE AND SOME OF THEM.
IT PROBABLY WOULD BE AN INCREASE.
AND THEN, SO OUR LARGEST GROUP IS THAT TWO INCH.
UM, CAN YOU GIMME SOME EXAMPLES? I MEAN, ARE, ARE THEY MANUFACTURERS? IS IT, UM, OFFICE TOWERS, IS IT RESTAURANTS, MULTI RENT, MULTI-TENANT RETAIL? LIKE WHAT, WHAT FALLS INTO THAT CATEGORY? ANYTHING? I MEAN, IT'S REALLY ANYTHING THAT HAS A TWO INCH METER.
SO THERE'S A LOT, I MEAN, A LOT OF THESE ARE GONNA BE JUST REGULAR COMMERCIALS.
SO IT COULD BE RESTAURANTS, COULD BE, UH, OFFICE BUILDINGS, UM, A LOT.
WE HAVE MORE, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY INDU, WHAT WE LIST AS INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMERS.
UM, SO, SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THOSE.
SOME OF THOSE WILL BE YOUR HOTELS AND MOTELS, UH, THAT, THAT HAVE TWO INCH METERS.
AND THEN WHY DOES THIS GO TO THE GENERAL FUND AND NOT THE UTILITY FUND AS FAR AS THE FRANCHISE FEE? UM, SO NINE 17 GOES TO THE DEBT FUND MM-HMM
AND THEN THE 9 97 IS GOING TO THE GENERAL FUND.
IS THAT WHERE THAT GOES? CORRECT.
SO WHY, WHY WOULD THAT GO TO THE GENERAL FUND AND NOT TO A UTILITY FUND? SO IT'S BEING GENERATED BY THE UTILITY FUND, SO IT IS REVENUE TO THE UTILITY FUND.
UH, BUT JUST LIKE, SO FOR INSTANCE, UH, ENCORE ELECTRIC, UH, FOR THEM TO USE OUR RIGHT OF WAY, THEY'RE PAYING US A 5% FRANCHISE FEE.
THIS IS APPLYING THAT SAME CONCEPT TO OUR UTILITY.
IT'S USING THE TOWN ZONE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND UH, BASICALLY IT'S 5% OF REVENUE GENERATED FROM THE UTILITY IS PAID TO OUR GENERAL FUND.
SO WE GET FRANCHISE FEES FOR ENCORE ELECTRIC, FOR ATMOS ENERGY, UH, FOR ANY CABLE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ANY TELEPHONE LINES THAT ARE BEING RUN IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY, ANY, ANY REVENUE THAT'S BEING GENERATED FROM OUR RIGHT OF WAY.
ESSENTIALLY WE'RE GETTING A 5% FRANCHISE FEE.
SO BY RA MAYBE THAT'S WHERE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING.
SO BY RAISING THE BASE CHARGES, WE'RE GONNA GENERATE 1,000,009.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TAKE NINE 17 TO THE DEBT FUND, AND THEN THE REMAINDER YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE CALLING THAT A, A FRANCHISE FEE, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST TAKING 5% OUTTA THE BALANCE OF THAT FUND AND PUTTING IT IN THE GENERAL FUND, CORRECT.
OF THE REVENUE? THAT'S CORRECT.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE, I MEAN, I, I WOULD SUPPORT THIS.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS, I MEAN, SOME OF THESE RATES LIKE THE TWO INCH, OUR BIGGEST USERS IS GOING UP LIKE 30%, SO MM-HMM
THE DISCUSSION I'D LIKE TO HAVE DURING THE, DURING OUR BUDGET WORK SESSIONS IS MAYBE WE PHASE IT IN AND NOT DO IT ALL IN THE ONE IN FIRST YEAR.
DO ALL USERS OF WATER FROM THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL, DO WE PAY THE SAME THING AS ALL OTHER CITIES? OR DO DIFFERENT CITIES PAY DIFFERENT RATES? NO, DIFFERENT CITIES DEPENDING ON WHO YOUR PROVIDER IS.
OURS IS CITY OF DALLAS, UH, FOR WATER.
AND WE GET ABOUT, UH, 25% OF OUR SEWER IS TREATED BY CITY OF DALLAS, AND ABOUT 75% IS TREATED BY TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY.
SO THOSE PROVIDERS OR YOUR WHOLESALE
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PROVIDERS ARE SETTING A, A LOT OF THOSE RATES, UH, AND YOUR, AND WE BASE OUR RATES BASED ON THAT, THAT INPUT COST.SO HOW DO WE, YOU'VE GOT THESE NICE CHARTS, HOW WE, WE RATE, ARE WE PAYING LESS THAN OTHERS OR MORE THAN OTHERS OR? SO SOME OF, AND I'LL GO TO, TO SOME OF THEM.
SO SOME OF THE, SOME OF THESE ARE CITY OF DALLAS CUSTOMERS AS WELL.
I MEAN, ANY, A LOT OF THESE CITIES ARE GONNA HAVE THEIR OWN MIX.
UH, SOME OF THESE CITIES HAVE THEIR OWN WATER SOURCES, UM, SO THEY COULD HAVE WELLS.
I THINK IRVING HAS THEIR OWN, UH, RESERVOIR.
SO IT, IT DEPENDS, UH, AS FAR AS THE INPUT COSTS.
SO, UH, I'LL TELL YOU COPPEL, IRVING, FARMER'S BRANCH, CARROLLTON, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE, UH, UNIVERSITY PARK THO I KNOW ALL OF THOSE ARE CITY OF DALLAS CUSTOMERS.
SOME OF THESE ARE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL, UH, WATER AUTHORITY CUSTOMERS.
I THINK WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE OPPORTUNITY REGIONAL, UH, CUSTOMERS.
SO, UH, APPLES TO APPLES, IF, IF THEY'RE A DALLAS CUSTOMER, THEY PAY THE SAME THING AS WE DO.
OR IS IT BASED ON POPULATION AND USAGE? NO, THEY, THEY PAY THE SAME.
SO DALLAS DOES AN ANNUAL RATE STUDY, UH, AND THEY, UH, I'M ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE, UH, THE, UH, WASTEWATER COMPONENT OF THAT.
UH, SO THEY DO AN ANNUAL RATE STUDY AND THEY SET THE RATES ACROSS THEIR ENTIRE SYSTEM OKAY.
FOR ALL OF THEIR WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS.
AND HOW DO WE DECIDE THAT WE'RE DALLAS AND NOT SHOP IT TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE? WELL, I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT'S A LONG TERM DECISION.
SO DALLAS HAS PROVIDED THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TO DELIVER THAT SERVICE TO US.
UM, THAT IS, UH, A DECISION THAT WAS PROBABLY MADE A LONG TIME AGO, AND IT'S NOT ONE THAT IS EASILY CHANGED OR RECOMMENDED TO, TO CHANGE.
I MEAN, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY HAPPY WITH IT BECAUSE OUR RATES ARE ABLE TO STAY LOWER THAN ANYONE ELSE'S.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THESE NICE BAR GRAPHS AS TO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE SEEN A BAR GRAPH AS TO WHAT PROPOSED RAISES WOULD'VE LOOKED LIKE, YOU KNOW, TO THE OTHER CITIES.
UH, THE, THE LIGHT BLUE BAR IS, IS THE PROPOSED.
BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE MULTICOLOR HERE, SO EVERYTHING ELSE WILL STAY THE SAME.
SO YOU'RE MOVING US UP TO ABOUT THE MIDDLE, A LITTLE ABOVE THE MIDDLE.
WE'RE, WE'RE WITHIN ABOUT 10% OF THE AVERAGE OF, AND YOU, YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT PIQUED MY INTEREST THAT THIS COULD GO TO LOWERING PROPERTY TAXES.
I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE OUR PROPERTY TAXES ON THE WAY LEFT HAND, LOW SIDE AND CHARGE AND BE THE HIGHEST ON WATER AS THE WAY WE ARE NOW.
UH, I THINK, UH, WE ALREADY HAVE THE HIGHEST TAX RATE AROUND AND TO, TO RAISE THESE RATES 30% TO SOME OF THE USERS ON TOP OF THE, THE, UH, PROPERTY TAXES.
IF WE CAN COMMIT TO LOWERING PROPERTY TAXES, I COULD BE FAR MORE IN FAVOR OF THIS.
UM, BUT WE GOT, WE GOTTA GET BACK OVER TO THAT OTHER SIDE ON THAT.
WE, WE CAN'T BE AT THE HIGHEST ON BOTH, BOTH AREAS THERE.
YOU'RE EITHER GONNA PAY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AND I WOULD RATHER PAY A LOWER PROPERTY TAX THAN PAY MORE FOR WATER BECAUSE I MIGHT ELECT NOT TO USE AS MUCH WATER.
I MEAN, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR, THE PAST COUPLE YEARS WE LOOKED AT THAT PROPERTY TAX COMPARISON AND WE, HEY, PLANO IS SO MUCH LOWER.
WELL PLANOS LOWER IN LARGE PART 'CAUSE THEY'RE DOING THINGS LIKE THIS, BUT PEOPLE LOOK AT PROPERTY TAXES, THEY DON'T REALLY LOOK AT THEIR WATER.
AND THAT'S SO, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD SAYING, HEY, IF WE DO THIS, THIS CAN BE AN AVENUE WHERE IT'S MORE APPLES TO APPLES AS WE'RE LOOKING AT PROPERTY TAX.
SO I'M JUST TELLING YOU, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FOR ME, THAT'S THE DIRECTION I'D LIKE TO GO GET OUR PROPERTY TAXES DOWN AND, AND CHARGE MORE FOR WATER.
LET ME DECIDE HOW MUCH WATER I WANT TO USE.
SO THE, THE REVENUE IMPACT SLIDE HERE, SO THIS ESSENTIALLY $1.9 MILLION IS REALLY A DIRECT REDUCTION, UH, IN PROPERTY TAX THAT WOULD NEED TO BE GENERATED.
UH, ONE LAST ONE, UH, 5% ON FRANCHISE FEE.
YOU, YOU HEARD THAT DIFFERENTLY THAN I DID.
I THOUGHT IT IS THE, THAT ON UTILITIES.
EXPLAIN THAT 5% FRANCHISE FEE TO ME.
IS THAT ON WATER OR IS THAT ON MY CABLE BILL? IS THAT ON? YEAH, WELL SO THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.
IT WAS, IT WAS GONNA BE ON ALL THE TV SERVICES, INTERNET.
SO, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN CHARGED BY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE CHARGE TO ENCORE ELECTRIC TO ATMOS ENERGY TO THE CABLE PROVIDERS.
IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE A PHONE LINE, IT'S STILL IN YOUR HOUSE, RIGHT? YOU'RE CHARGED A 5% FRANCHISE FEE.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE FEE THAT, THAT ALL CITIES CHARGE BASED ON THE USAGE OF THEIR RIGHT OF WAY TO DELIVER THAT SERVICE TO YOUR HOME.
IT'S GONNA STAY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IT IS THAT WOULD MAKE OUR UTILITY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT ALL THE OTHER UTIL OH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
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THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE APPLIED TO THE WATER UTIL THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE RATES THAT I SHOWED YOU.SO EXPLAIN TO ME HOW GOING UP 5% ON THAT IS NOT GOING TO INCREASE WHAT OTHERS PAY BY 10 OR 15% TO YOUR POINT, TO THE, AT THE APARTMENTS, IF WE'RE CHARGING THEM A 5% FRANCHISE FEE ON THAT, WELL THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO RECOUP THAT.
SO THAT'S ABSOLUTELY GOING ON SOMEBODY'S BILL AND WHAT'S GONNA KEEP THEM FROM RAISING THAT TO 10 OR 15%? YEAH, SO, SO WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO CHARGE A DIRECT FRANCHISE FEE ON THE BILL.
THE RATES THAT ARE LISTED, UH, IN THE PROPOSED RATES, UM, I'LL GO TO THIS SLIDE.
THE RATES THAT ARE LISTED ARE INCLUSIVE OF THAT 5%.
SO, SO WHEN SOMEONE GETS THEIR BILL, THEIR BILL'S GONNA LOOK THE SAME AS IT DOES NOW.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO BASICALLY EVERY QUARTER PAY OUR GENERAL FUND 5% OF THE REVENUE THAT'S BEEN GENERATED FROM THIS FUND.
THAT, I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE SNEAKY CELL PHONE BILL THAT'S GOT ALL THAT, ALL THE LITTLE SERVICES ON THERE, YOU CAN NEVER ADD UP AND YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY ARE.
BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S JUST A 5%, YOU'RE BASICALLY GONNA MOVE OVER INTO THAT.
I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE I GET SMARTER WHEN I JUST HANG IN THE ROOM WITH YOU.
UM, SO QUESTION TO CHRIS'S POINT, UM, I'M AN APARTMENT GOER, I'M GONNA SEE SOME POTENTIAL RATE INCREASE, OR I'M THE OWNER OF THE APARTMENT BUILDING OR THE BUSINESS FOR THAT MATTER.
THESE ARE DISCUSSIONS WE'RE HAVING TODAY, TONIGHT, BUT THESE HAVE NOT BEEN DISCUSSIONS THAT ECONOMIC OR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES HAVE HAD WITH OWNERS OF COMPANIES IN ADDISON.
SO, SO BACK TO I GUESS UNDERSTANDING THIS FULL PICTURE.
YEAH, I, I, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUMPING FROM ONE SQUARE TO A REALLY HIGH LEDGE AND WE'RE GONNA TRY AND ATTAIN THAT LEDGE.
I, I, I'D RATHER HAVE SEEN A SORT OF SCALE TO GROWTH, UH, ON THAT INCREASE OF 30 POINTS OR SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT.
BECAUSE WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, TO THE POINT YOU MADE ABOUT FARMER'S BRANCH AND THEIR NEIGHBORING CITIES BUYING THEIR WATER FROM DALLAS LIKE WE ARE VERSUS THE NORTHERNERS GETTING IT FROM THE TRE, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE SOME STICKER SHOCK.
AND I WOULD ASSUME SOME OF THESE, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME SORT OF PUSHBACK, UM, FROM SOME OF THESE OWNERS.
SO FROM DIRECTION FROM ME, I I, IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE RACE AND NOW WE'RE ENTERING THE RACE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK.
I JUST THINK WE NEED TO, TO CHRIS'S POINT, SOMEHOW SCALE THAT CONVERSATION UP VERSUS BEING STICKER SHOCKED.
YEAH, SO, UM, ON THE UTILITY RATE STRUCTURE INCREASE, THAT WAS, UM, REVIEWED IN 2022 MM-HMM
UH, WE REALLY TALK ONLY TALKED ABOUT, UM, OR MOSTLY TALKED ABOUT AS IT APPLIED TO RESIDENTIAL.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I KIND OF ABSORBED IT.
WE DIDN'T REALLY BREAK OUT SO MUCH ABOUT COMMERCIAL INCREASE AND IT WAS, IT WAS POSITIONED AS MAINTAINING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE GOING FORWARD.
UM, SO THIS ONE, THIS IS, UM, NOT REALLY IN THE SAME VEIN AS THAT.
IT'S, IT'S MORE, UM, ALL THE CITY SERVICES TO RUN THE TOWN.
AM I, AM I SEEING THAT DIFFERENTLY? ALL THE CITY SERVICES TO RUN THE TOWN AS FAR AS UM, THIS INCREASE HOW WE, I MEAN, 'CAUSE UH, IN THAT PRESENTATION, UH, I THINK I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE REVIEWED THAT MM-HMM
AND I REALLY COULDN'T UNDERSTAND IT AND I FOUND OUT WELL THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS DOING IT BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT AGING INFRASTRUCTURE ON.
NOW THIS ONE IS, UM, A WAY TO MORE EQUALIZE HOW WE'RE TAXING.
AND I, I, I'M, I'M A USE TAX TYPE GUY.
I LIKE THAT IF YOU USE IT, THEN YOU PAY TAXES ON IT.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF I'M, IF I'M MISSING ANYTHING.
NOT NECESSARILY A USE BECAUSE WE ARE MAKING AN INVESTMENT INTO EACH PROPERTY AND THAT INVESTMENT, IF YOU HAVE A LARGER METER, COSTS THE TOWN A LOT MORE.
SO WE'RE BUYING THE METER, WE'RE BUYING THE PIPE TO DELIVER THAT SERVICE.
AND THEN IS IT REALLY FAIR IF IT'S, IF A CUSTOMER THAT HAS A TWO INCH METER IS PAYING THE SAME AS SOMEONE THAT HAS A METER THAT COSTS 10 TIMES THE PRICE AND A PIPE THAT COSTS 10 TIMES THE PRICE, WE'RE JUST FIXING THAT INEQUITY NOW ESSENTIALLY.
I THINK THE RATE STRUCTURE AS IT IS NOW IS, IS REALLY OUTDATED.
UM, CERTAINLY I'M A BIG FAN OF GOING TO THE, THE, UH, SIZE, UM, OF THE METER.
UM, SO WHAT'S THE PROPERTY TAX IMPACT? UM, SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ABOUT $1.9 MILLION, SO, AND WE'RE GONNA GET INTO SOME OF THIS IN A SUBSEQUENT MEETING, BUT I'LL GET INTO SOME NOW IF THAT'S OKAY.
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WANNA, I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT AROUND THAT BECAUSE WE, WE DO HAVE A BOND PROGRAM.SO OUR BOND PROGRAM THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE GONNA INCREASE OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR NEXT YEAR FOR THE DEBT SERVICE.
UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE ABOUT ONE AND A HALF CENT INCREASE AND THE DEBT SERVICE RATE.
SO THAT $917,000 IS ESSENTIALLY GONNA KEEP THE DEBT SERVICE PORTION OF THE TAX RATE THE SAME.
UH, AND WE ANTICIPATE ABOUT A ONE, A 1 CENT DECREASE IN THE GENERAL FUND, UH, IN PROPERTY TAXES.
SO OVERALL, UH, WHAT WE, WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED RIGHT NOW IS A 1% OVERALL DECREASE, WHEREAS WE WERE ANTICIPATING ABOUT A 1.5%, 1.5% INCREASE.
SO DO WE, SO WE ALREADY HAVE THE, THE, UH, FRANCHISE FEE ON THE WATER FUND NOW OR NOT? WE DO NOT.
SO WE'RE, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE REASONING BEHIND THAT.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A FRANCHISE UTILITY JUST HAS TO BE OUR OWN FRANCHISE.
UH, I WANT ONE, ONE OTHER INPUT.
I SURE LIKE LOWERING PROPERTY TAXES, SO I'D PROBABLY PHASE IN TYPE OF DEAL ALSO MAYBE OVER TWO YEARS.
UM, I SURE LIKE TO GET THE WIN, BUT IT'S, IT'S, I DON'T WANNA HAR HARM THE BUSINESSES TOO MUCH, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO CHARGE FAIRLY BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING, YOU KNOW, UH, MORE OF A BAD RAP FOR A HIGHER PROPERTY TAX WHEN IT'S REALLY NOT APPLES TO APPLES.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO CORRECT YOURSELF AGAIN.
YOU WERE, YOU WERE TALKING AND YOU WERE SAYING YOU PERCENT, 1%, THEN YOU CORRECTED YOURSELF TO ONE AND A HALF CENTS.
DID YOU MEAN A, A 1 CENT DECREASE AND SO YOU WERE TALKING CENTS NOT PERCENTAGE CENTS.
SO THAT'S, I SAID PERCENT ONCE, BUT YES CENTS.
JUST, JUST TO SET IT STRAIGHT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REDUCING ONE PENNY OR WHATEVER THAT IS.
I'M ASSUMING THAT THESE RESTAURANTS AND THESE BUSINESSES THAT ARE PAYING THESE LOW WATER TAXES ARE VERY HAPPY AND PROBABLY KNOW THEY'RE PAYING LESS FOR WATER THAN THE SAME FRANCHISED RESTAURANT THAT THEY HAVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I MEAN, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, AND IT ALSO, AGAIN, IT, IT GOES BACK TO THE WHOLESALE PROVIDER TOO.
'CAUSE THAT REALLY IS THE MAIN INPUT.
SO DALLAS CUSTOMERS GENERALLY HAVE LOWER RATES THAN NOW WE ARE ONE OF THE LOWEST.
DALLAS, YOU KNOW, DALLAS DOES A SURVEY EACH YEAR.
WE ARE ONE OF THE LOWER RIGHT.
UM, WE DO HAVE ONE OF THE LOWER FEES AS FAR AS DALLAS CUSTOMERS GO OVERALL.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE IN ONE OF THESE OTHER ONES LIKE, LIKE, UH, NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WELL THEY, THEY ARE CHARGING MORE.
AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES.
IF THEY HAVE ANOTHER RESTAURANT IN ANOTHER DALLAS, UM, YEAH.
SO IF IT'S SOMEWHERE IN DALLAS THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A JUST OVER IN DALLAS AND THEY HAVE A CUSTOMER OVER THERE, IT'S PROBABLY FAIRLY, IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE.
I DIDN'T PUT DALLAS IN THIS CHART.
NOW THEY ARE THE PRODUCER OF THE WATER, SO THEIR RATES ARE REALLY LOW TOO.
OKAY, SO HIGH TAXES, LOW WATER THERE AS WELL THEN? CORRECT.
IF WE CAN COMMIT TO LOWERING THE PROPERTY TAXES, I'D BE ALL FOR THIS.
AND, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BIG OF AN INCREASE FOR A COMMERCIAL TO COME IN, UM, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A TWO INCH METER COSTING THE SAME THING AS AN EIGHT INCH METER.
THAT, THAT, THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS A LONG TIME AGO.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR, WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD, UH, DIRECTION TO, TO, UH, LOOK AT THIS STRUCTURE DURING THE, UH, DURING THE BUDGET, UM, AND MAYBE, UH, MAYBE SOME DIFFERENT MODELS OF A PHASED IN APPROACH.
REALLY, REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION.
[6.c. Present and discuss the Addison Airport FY 2026 Q2 Year to Date Report.]
FINAL ITEM WE HAVE TONIGHT COUNSEL'S, UH, SIX C PRESENTED, DISCUSS THE ADDISON AIRPORT FY 2026 Q2 YEAR TO DATE REPORT.IF YOU RECALL, WE JUST RECENTLY HAD ONE OF THESE COUPLE MEETINGS AGO.
SO THE QUESTION FOR COUNSEL, DO YOU WANT TO SEE ANOTHER FULL REPORT OR WOULD YOU JUST LIKE TO GET THE REPORT? I LOVE JAMIE.
HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB, BUT I CAN READ IT MYSELF.
SO EITHER YOUR MIC WAS NOT ON, BUT DARREN IS OKAY WITH READING IT HIMSELF.
AND SO I HEARD THAT IF WE CAN ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OF IT, I I CAN SKIP THE PRESENTATION AS WELL, BUT I WOULD HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
YOU DON'T MIND, DO YOU JAMIE? NO, SIR.
JAMIE DRILL, SAY AIRPORT DIRECTOR.
UH, I'VE ALWAYS HEARD THE AIRPORT'S ITS OWN ENTITY REVENUE FROM THE AIRPORT HAS TO STAY ON THE AIRPORT WITH CERTAIN THINGS.
CAN YOU DIRECT ME TO WHERE IT SAYS THAT, WHERE, WHERE DO WE HANG OUR HAT THAT THAT HAPPENS? WHERE, WHERE CAN I GO IN FEDERAL REGULATIONS OR
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WHATEVER THAT SAYS WHAT? I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD THAT WE CAN'T GET MORE REVENUE OFF THAT AIRPORT INTO THE GENERAL FUND.SO GENERALLY THAT IS FOUND IN THE GRANT ASSURANCES.
WHAT GRANT ASSURANCES, OF WHICH THERE ARE 41, THERE ARE 41, I BELIEVE GRANT ASSURANCES THERE.
I THINK THERE WAS A PENDING 42.
WHERE DO I FIND THOSE? UH, ONLINE.
IF YOU JUST GO ONLINE AND YOU JUST LOOK UP FA GRANT ASSURANCES, YOU'LL FIND, UH, IT'S ON THE FA WEBSITE OR YES.
WE'LL, WE'LL FOLLOW UP AND PROVIDE THE LANGUAGE.
YEAH, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.
AND THAT WAS OUR FINAL AGENDA ITEM FOR THE EVENING, EVERYBODY.
UH, THANKS FOR THE GOOD DISCUSSION.
THANK, UH, THANKS TO ALL THE STAFF AND AT UH, 9 25.