Jun 09, 2026 Work Session and Regular Meeting

IS 6 47 AND WE WILL, UH, WE'RE COMING IN OUT OF CLOSED SESSION INTO OPEN SESSION AND THERE'S NO ACTION FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE FROM THE CLOSED SESSION.

GOOD EVENING

[1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present.]

EVERYBODY.

IT IS FIVE OH TWO AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 9TH, 2020 SIXTH.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT WITH ALL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING, AND WE'LL GO FIRST INTO OUR WORK SESSION.

UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

PUBLIC, UH, CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.

CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW.

THE COUNCIL IS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THAT ITEM AND MOVE ON

[3. Council Member Clarification Requests Regarding Consent Agenda Items.]

TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.

COUNCIL MEMBER CLARIFICATION, REQUEST REGARDING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS NEEDED FROM COUNCIL ON CONSENT ITEMS? ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD.

SEEING NONE THERE.

THREE A COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.

THE QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL SENDS INTO STAFF REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS ARE PUT INTO A SINGLE DOCUMENT AND THAT DOCUMENT IS SENT OUT TO ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH RESPONSES TO THE QUESTION.

THAT SAME DOCUMENT IS UPLOADED TO THE INTERNET TO OUR WEBSITE, SO ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC CAN GO ON TO THE WEBSITE, FIND THE AGENDA, AND THERE'LL BE A LINK IN THERE TO DOWNLOAD THE Q AND A DOCUMENT THERE AS WELL.

ITEM FOUR,

[4. Closed Meeting. The Addison City Council will enter a Closed Meeting pursuant to Texas Government Code Sections 551-071 through 090 to discuss the following item(s):]

CLOSED MEETING.

THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL WILL ENTER A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 5 51 DASH 7 1 9 TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS FOR A PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0 7 1 SECTION ONE, A PENDING LITIGATION BUDGET, SUITES OF AMERICA VERSUS TOWN OF ADDISON, CAUSE NUMBER DC DASH ONE NINE DASH 9 6 3 190.

FIRST JUDICIAL DISTRICT, DALLAS COUNTY DISTRICT COURT.

THEN ITEM FOUR B PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0 7 1, SECTION ONE AND TWO DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS TO DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE REGARDING COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT OR BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE, STAY, OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE TERRITORY OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON, AND WITH WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OR TO DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO SUCH BUSINESS PROSPECT OR BUSINESS PROSPECTS.

AND IT IS, UH, PROJECT GOLDLEAF AND PROJECT PEGASUS.

THOSE ARE OUR CLOSED SESSION ITEMS, AND IT IS 5 0 5.

WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THIS TIME.

OKAY, IT

[5. Open Meeting. In accordance with Texas Government Code Chapter 551, the Addison City Council will reconvene in an Open Meeting to consider action, if any, on the matters discussed in the Closed Meeting.]

AND SO WE WILL MOVE RIGHT INTO OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO

[6.b. Present and discuss the Addison FixIT App, the Town’s citizen engagement platform. Sponsored by: Deputy Mayor Pro-Tempore Darren Gardner and Council Member Marlin Willesen.]

JUST A LITTLE REVERSAL HERE ON THE ORDER.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO SIX B FIRST, SO I'M GONNA READ SIX B PRESENT AND DISCUSS THE ADDISON FIX IT APP, THE TOWN'S CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT PLATFORM SPONSORED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DARREN GARDNER, AND COUNCIL MEMBER MARLON WILLIS.

AND, AND DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? UH, YEAH.

SARAH HAS A PRESENTATION, BUT WE'LL, IF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO REQUESTED THE ITEM WANNA SAY ANYTHING, THEY'RE WELCOME TO BEFORE.

MICROPHONE.

YEAH, SO I, UH, I CO-SPONSORED THIS AND, AND, UH, FOR MULTIPLE REASONS.

UM, WE HAVE HAD A, UH, PRESENTATION ABOUT THE ADDISON FIX IT UP.

THIS IS THE THIRD, THIRD TIME WE'VE DONE THIS.

SO IT'S, IT'S THE THIRD TIME WE'VE DONE IT.

IT'S THE FIRST TIME THIS, THIS COUNCIL HAS DONE IT.

UM, AND, AND SO I THOUGHT IT WAS TIME TO REVIEW THAT AND REFRESH FROM PEOPLE THAT HADN'T BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

UM, ALSO, IT'S, IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO OUR SERVICE MODEL AS WE ALL KNOW.

WE'VE GOT A, A PREMIUM SERVICE MODEL THAT WE OFFER, AND THIS IS THE MAIN VEHICLE THAT, UM, THAT, THAT VISITORS AND, AND RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS, UH, OWNERS WILL, WILL UTILIZE TO REPORT THINGS THAT THEY SEE THAT, THAT POSSIBLY COULD, UH, BE FIXED OR, OR MAYBE NEED ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.

SO WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS? HAVING THIS WORK SESSION ITEM, MARLIN, UM, UPDATE THE CITY COUNCIL AS TO THE IMPORTANCE OF THE APP AND HOW IT INTEGRATES INTO OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE.

UM, OPPORTUNITIES TO, UH, IMPROVE THE APP AND THEN, UM, CREATE MORE AWARENESS OF THE APP TO DRIVE MORE USERS AND MORE USER ENGAGEMENT.

I DON'T REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT IT ON COUNCIL, SO IT'D BE NICE TO KIND OF SEE JUST A

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GENERAL, I DON'T RECALL.

I WAS ON THE CO-SPONSOR.

I DON'T RECALL SEEING THIS ON COUNCIL IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, AND I REMEMBER LAST YEAR AND HAVING A, UM, JUST A GENERAL REVIEW ON IT.

I'VE SEEN SOME THINGS.

I USE IT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS NOTABLE IS THE, UM, THE FEEDBACK AT THE END, ONCE IT'S CLOSED, YOU CAN DO THAT.

NOW.

YOU USUALLY COULDN'T DO THAT.

YOU COULDN'T EVEN SAY THANK YOU.

SO IT'S NICE TO DO THAT.

BUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE GOOD, UH, TO KNOW, BECAUSE WE ARE KIND OF AMBASSADORS OF, OF WHAT, WHAT THE TOWN HAS TO OFFER.

AND OUR, AND THIS IS A BIG PART OF THE SERVICE LEVEL.

PRIMARILY DUE TO A STORM, SO SOME CLEANUP AFTER THE STORM.

I'M GONNA JUST SEE OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS ARE GENERALLY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF ON SOMETHING, BUT THIS IS KIND OF JUST A BRIEFING, WHICH OKAY, I JUST, I JUST DON'T SEE THE POINT OF IT.

WELL, Y YEAH, I'D SAY LET'S GO THROUGH THE, UH, PRESENTATION AND THERE MAY BE SOME GUIDANCE.

OKAY, SARAH, THANK YOU.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL, SARAH, CHIEF OF STAFF.

I DO HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION PREPARING.

I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH IT, UM, QUICKLY.

UM, SO THE ADDISON FIXIT APP IS A VERY IMPORTANT CUSTOMER SERVICE TOOL TO US, UH, RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, VISITORS.

THEY CAN REPORT A PROBLEM TO THE CITY OR TO THE TOWN, AND THEY CAN REQUEST A SERVICE IN ONE OF TWO WAYS.

THEY CAN DO SO VIA THE MOBILE APP, UM, OR THEY CAN DO SO THROUGH A PORTAL ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE.

UM, IT'S FAIRLY EASY FOR RESIDENTS TO USE.

THEY CAN SNAP A PHOTO, UM, LOCATE ON THE, MAP THE LOCATION, AND THEN ENTER A DESCRIPTION, UM, THAT GETS SUBMITTED AND ROUTED TO THE APPROPRIATE TOWN STAFF.

WE ARE THEN ABLE TO COMMUNICATE BACK WITH THE RESIDENTS, PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OR THE ULTIMATE RESOLUTION OF THE REQUEST.

UM, AND SO IT ACTS AS THAT VERY IMPORTANT COMMUNICATION AND CUSTOMER SERVICE TOOL INTERFACE AND MAKES IT EASIER FOR RESIDENTS TO REPORT THINGS TO US.

UM, THE APP THAT WE USE IS THROUGH A SOFTWARE VENDOR CALLED ROCK SOLID.

UM, THIS APP LAUNCHED IN DECEMBER OF 2019, SO WE'VE BEEN USING IT FOR A FEW YEARS.

UM, IT HAS CHANGED OWNERSHIP A FEW TIMES, UM, AND NOW IS OWNED BY GRANITE KISS.

UM, THEY SERVE OVER 75 CITIES IN TEXAS AND OVER 400 MUNICIPALITIES NATIONWIDE.

UM, IT IS AN OUT OF THE BOX SOLUTION, SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CUSTOMIZATION AVAILABLE, UM, WITHIN THE APP, UM, BUT IT IS A RELATIVELY LOW COST SOLUTION FOR US AT JUST OVER $15,000 PER YEAR.

SO, AS MENTIONED, AN IMPORTANT CUSTOMER SERVICE TOOL, UM, THROUGH THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, WE'VE REALLY REFOCUSED ON HOW WE PROVIDE SERVICE THROUGH THE APP.

UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S ALIGNING WITH OUR CORE BRAVE VALUES AS WELL AS THE ADDISON WAY OF SERVICE TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND AND EXCEED EXPECTATIONS.

SO JUST BECAUSE IT'S A DIGITAL PLATFORM THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH OUR RESIDENTS, WE STILL WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THAT HIGH CLASS, HIGH TOUCH SERVICE, UM, AND THAT WE'RE PROVIDING TIMELY UPDATES.

WE'RE PROVIDING AN INITIAL RESPONSE WITHIN 48 BUSINESS HOURS, AND THEN WE'RE KEEPING OUR RESIDENTS INFORMED ALONG THE WAY IF IT'S AN ITEM THAT MAY TAKE LONGER TO CLOSE AND RESPOND, UM, OUT TO.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO BEEN CO TRAINING AND COACHING OUR STAFF TO SPEAK WITH ONE VOICE.

UM, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT APPEARING TO TRANSFER THINGS AROUND TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OR HANDOFF.

WE REALLY WANT THAT EXPERIENCE TO BE STREAMLINED, UM, AND THAT THEY DON'T, RESIDENTS DO NOT SEE ANY OF THAT THAT WE ARE HERE TO SERVE.

WE ARE ONE TOWN, ONE TEAM.

SO IN TERMS OF SOME METRICS, JUST WANTED TO SHARE, UM, SINCE THE APP LAUNCHED, UM, WE'VE HAD A TOTAL OF 1,588 DOWNLOADS.

THAT CHART SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN.

THE BLUE LINE IS, UM, APPLE AND YELLOW IS ANDROID.

AND YOU CAN SEE IN THAT LAST 2026 IS JUST THE PARTIAL YEAR SO FAR.

UM, OF THAT, WE HAVE, UM, JUST OVER 1100 USERS WHO'VE SIGNED UP AS REGISTERED, MEANING THEY HAVE A NAME AND A PASSWORD AND AN ACCOUNT.

UM, YOU CAN ALSO SUBMIT THINGS ANONYMOUSLY THROUGH THE APP, SO IT DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO BE A REGISTERED USER, AND WE'LL STILL GET IN SERVICE THOSE REQUESTS.

UM, ROCK SOLID.

THE VENDOR RELEASES ABOUT A PATCH, UH, OR UPDATED VERSIONS OF THE APP, UH, MAYBE ONCE TO TWICE A YEAR.

AND IT'S PRIMARILY FOR BUG FIXES.

UM, NOT A LOT OF PRODUCT ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE'RE SEEING, UM, BUT THEY DO COME THROUGH WITH THOSE VERSION UPDATES A COUPLE OF TIMES PER YEAR.

UM, SO JUST SOME KEY METRICS THAT WE LOOK AT AND THAT WE RECEIVE THROUGH THE APP IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF, UH, REQUESTS.

UM, SO THIS CHART AND TABLE SHOWS, UH, LAST FISCAL YEAR COMPARED TO THIS FISCAL YEAR, YEAR TO DATE.

UM, SO LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE ALMOST HAD 1900 TOTAL REQUESTS THAT WE RESPONDED TO THROUGH THE APP.

UM, THIS FISCAL YEAR WE'RE TRENDING TO BE ABOUT THE SAME, JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE ORANGE LINE ON THE GRAPH IS THIS FISCAL YEAR BY MONTH.

UM, YOU CAN SEE LAST MONTH IN MAY, WE ACTUALLY HAD, UM, AN INCREASE, UM, RATHER SIGNIFICANT IN TWO CATEGORIES IN TRASH AND RECYCLING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.

UM, WE THINK THAT'S

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AND THEN AS WELL AS WE STARTED USING A NEW DOOR HANGER, UM, TO REALLY EDUCATE AND PROMOTE THE APP, UM, THAT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM STARTED TO HANG OUT AND, AND PUT ON RESIDENCE AS WELL.

AND THEN WE HAVE AVERAGE TIME TO CLOSE A REQUEST, UM, JUST AT ABOUT 4.2 DAYS.

THAT VARIES WIDELY JUST DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF SERVICE REQUEST.

SO SOME THINGS CAN BE DONE RATHER QUICKLY.

WE'LL CLOSE OUT ACTUALLY THE SAME DAY, AND SOME OTHERS MAY TAKE LONGER TO RESPOND TO.

UM, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO MOVE THOSE THROUGH AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND KEEP IF IT IS GONNA TAKE LONGER, AT LEAST KEEPING THAT COMMUNICATION STATUS UPDATE WITH THE RESIDENT.

SO AGAIN, JUST MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE IN TERMS OF METRICS.

SO OUR THREE MOST COMMON REQUEST TYPES ARE HERE ON, ON THE SCREEN.

ABOUT 25% OF THOSE REQUESTS.

A WIDE VARIETY OF ANY ISSUES THAT YOU MAY SEE IN OUR PARKS FROM IRRIGATIONS AND SPRINKLERS TO, UM, TREES, LANDSCAPING, DRINKING FOUNTAINS.

UM, SOMETHING'S WRONG AT THE DOG PARK GATE.

IT CAN BE A WIDE VARIETY OF ITEMS. THE SECOND MOST COMMON CATEGORY IS CODE ENFORCEMENT.

UM, SO THIS COULD BE RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, ANYTHING THAT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR CURRENT CODES.

AND THEN THE THIRD MOST COMMON CATEGORY IS TRASH AND RECYCLING.

AND THIS IS PRIMARILY FOR RESIDENTS, UM, THAT HAVE BULK ITEMS OR TREE TRIMMINGS LEFT AT THE CURB THAT NEED TO BE PICKED UP.

AND THEN ALL THE OTHER CATEGORIES ARE LISTED THERE AS WELL AS THEIR PERCENTAGES.

WE DO WANNA STRESS, YOU CAN JUST SUBMIT IT AS OTHER IF YOU'RE NOT CERTAIN, WE AS TOWN STAFF WILL FIGURE OUT WHERE IT GOES, WE'LL GET IT TAKEN CARE OF.

SO WE WERE ASKED TO JUST TOUCH UPON SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE OR ARE CONTINUING TO MAKE.

UM, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE AGAIN, REFOCUSED AN EFFORT FROM THE CMO AS WELL AS DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP TO MONITOR REQUESTS THAT ARE IN PROGRESS.

SO WHAT WE WANNA SEE IS WHEN A REQUEST COMES IN WITHIN THAT 48 BUSINESS HOURS, WE'RE CHANGING THE STATUS FROM RECEIVED TO IN PROGRESS AND PROVIDING AN INITIAL RESPONSE BACK TO THE RESIDENT OF, WE'VE RECEIVED, HERE'S NEXT STEPS, ANTICIPATED TIMELINE.

OR SOMETIMES IT MAY BE AS EASY AS, THANK YOU, WE RECEIVED AND WE'VE RESOLVED IT ALREADY IN CLOSING IT OUT.

UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO MONITOR THAT CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MEETING THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE EXPECTATIONS.

WE DID DO, UM, CLEAN UP OF SOME BACKLOG REQUESTS IN THE SUMMER OF 2024, SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THAT MANAGEABLE, THAT WE DON'T GET OVERWHELMED WITH THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS AND WE'RE MOVING THEM THROUGH.

WE'VE ALSO SUBMITTED PRODUCT ENHANCEMENT REQUESTS TO ROCK SOLID.

UM, SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T CUSTOMIZE, BUT THEY WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE LIMITED.

I THINK YOU CAN UPLOAD FOUR PHOTOS.

WE'VE PUT IN PRODUCT ENHANCEMENT REQUESTS BEFORE IF WE COULD HAVE MORE PHOTOS AVAILABLE PER REQUEST.

UM, THERE'S ALSO BEEN, YOU KNOW, IF, IF A REQUEST IS CLOSED, THE RESIDENT CAN'T RESPOND NOW ON A CLOSE REQUEST.

SO THERE'S ITEMS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE, UM, THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED AS PRODUCT ENHANCEMENTS AND HOPING NOW GRANICUS WILL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IN THE FUTURE.

WE'VE ALSO CONTINUED TO JUST LOOK AT OUR SERVICE REQUEST CATEGORIES, UM, AND TRYING TO MAKE THEM EASY TO USE FOR RESIDENTS SO THAT THEY GET TO THE APPROPRIATE TOWN STAFF, UM, AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.

AND LASTLY, JUST CONTINUED STAFF TRAINING AND COACHING, UH, FOR WHEN AND HOW TO CLOSE OUR REQUESTS.

UM, WE'VE REALLY EMPHASIZED THAT ANY RESPONSE SHOULD BE, HI, THANK YOU, HERE'S WHAT WE'VE DONE, OR HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND THEN THE LAST THING ENDING IS, UM, THE NAME OF THE STAFF MEMBER AS WELL AS THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION.

WE WANNA CONNECT IT TO THAT, MAKE IT MORE PERSONABLE.

HERE'S THE TOWN STAFF MEMBER THAT IS SERVING YOU, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WANNA DISCUSS FURTHER, HERE'S THE PHONE NUMBER, HERE'S THE EMAIL, MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THAT AS IN WAY OF SERVICE US.

AND THE LAST SLIDE HERE IS, UM, DISCUSSING SOME MARKETING EFFORTS THAT WE'VE DONE.

UM, THE FIRST, UH, AREA THERE IS JUST SOME RECENT EXAMPLES, UM, FROM AVID AND SOCIAL MEDIA DONE IN FEBRUARY.

SO I MENTIONED THE DOOR HANGER FOR TRASH AND RECYCLING.

UM, AND AS WELL AS BEFORE, WE'VE DONE QR CODES ON DRINKING FOUNTAINS IN THE PARKS.

AND WE ACTUALLY THINK THOSE ARE UTILIZED OFTEN GIVEN THE NUMBER OF DRINKING FOUNTAIN REQUESTS, , UM, WHEN THEY'RE OUT OF ORDER, UM, THAT WE RECEIVE.

AND THEN, UH, RECENTLY THE CODE TEAM AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TEAM, THEY, UM, PRINTED FIX IT APP MAGNETS, AND THEY'VE BEEN HANDING THOSE OUT AT COMMUNITY EVENTS AS WELL.

SO OPPORTUNITIES GOING FORWARD, CONTINUING TO LEVERAGE SOCIAL MEDIA VIDEOS.

UM, WE THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL QR CODES IN COMMUNITIES OR PARKS.

I'D SAY IN STRATEGIC LOCATIONS.

WE DON'T WANT CLUTTER, WE DON'T WANT TOO MANY OF THESE EVERYWHERE, BUT MAYBE WHERE IT MAKES SENSE ON, UM, A TRASH CAN THAT MAY BE UTILIZED MORE OR

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WE GET COMMON COMPLAINTS ON.

SO AGAIN, BEING VERY STRATEGIC ABOUT WHERE WE PUT THOSE TO MINIMIZE CLUTTER.

UM, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY COULD BE TO ORDER FIX IT AT BUSINESS CARDS AND MAGNETS SO THAT AS TOWN STAFF, WE HAVE THEM TO HAND OUT AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL HAS THEM, AND WE CAN DISTRIBUTE THEM AT DIFFERENT COMMUNITY EVENTS OR MEETINGS THAT WE'RE AT.

AND THEN LASTLY, I'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, THE BIGGEST MARKETING EFFORTS WE CAN HAVE IS JUST ENHANCING THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE EXPERIENCE.

UM, SO IF WE GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WORD OF MOUTH TO THEIR NEIGHBORS, TO THEIR FRIENDS, HERE'S HOW YOU CAN EASILY REPORT THINGS TO THE TOWN TO GET IT RESOLVED.

UM, SO THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP DOING THE BEST WE CAN IN ENHANCING CUSTOMER SERVICE EXPERIENCE.

THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

MY THANK YOU, SIR.

I JUST MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS.

UH, ONE I WANNA WANNA RECOGNIZE ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS IN PARTICULAR, SARAH, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOKED AT THAT LIST OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENTS, A LOT OF THOSE WERE SPEARHEADED BY SARAH KIND OF WORKING THROUGH BACKLOG WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, WORKING ON, HEY, HERE'S OUR EXPECTATIONS, HERE'S THE SOPS ON HOW YOU RESPOND.

DOING SPOT CHECKS OF THOSE RESPONSES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE LIVING UP TO, UM, WHAT WE EXPECT.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF THEM.

UM, BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST MESSAGE THAT WE HAVE IS THOSE RESPONSES THAT YOU HAVE THROUGH THE FIX IT APP ARE JUST LIKE YOU'RE TALKING TO SOMEONE ONE-ON-ONE AS FAR AS THE WAY THEY VIEW THE TOWN AND SHOWING THAT ADD WAY.

SO I WANT TO CREDIT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS AND SARAH FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

THANK YOU DAN.

UH, SARAH, REAL QUICK, WAS THERE AN RFP PUT OUT WITH ROCK SOLID OR PRIOR TO ROCK SOLID GETTING THE, THE AGREEMENT FOR THE 15 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS? I'M GONNA ASK ME TO YES, WE, WE YOU CHOOSE TO BACK IN 2000, PLEASE.

OKAY, SO BACK TO THE 15 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR THEM TO TAKE THE ADVICE OF US NEEDING SOME POTENTIAL UPDATES ON THIS SOFTWARE BOX.

SOLID'S NOT WILLING TO WORK WITH US ON WANTING TO BETTER OUR SOFTWARE.

AM I HEARING THAT CORRECTLY? THEY ARE.

THEY, THEY'LL TAKE THE FEEDBACK WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING IS FROM A NUMBER OF CLIENTS AND CUSTOMERS MAYBE EXPERIENCING THE SAME THINGS TO INVEST THAT, UM, INTO AN OVERALL UPDATE TO THEIR PLATFORM.

UM, SO THEY DON'T WANNA MAKE IT SO CUSTOMIZED JUST TO ADDISON THAT IT THEN MAYBE INTERFERES WITH SOME OF THEIR OTHER CLIENTS OR CUSTOMERS.

SO IT'S KIND OF THAT MORE OUT OF THE BOX SOLUTION.

BUT THE LAST TIME THE RFP WAS 2019.

SO IT'S BEEN NEARLY SEVEN YEARS OF PAYING 15,500.

YES, I, YEAH.

AND I KNOW THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT IN THE ROOM AND I'LL MAKE IT QUICK.

I JUST THINK THAT THEY SHOULD WANNA WORK WITH THE TOWN OF ADDISON FOR THE, FOR THE REQUEST THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

I DON'T, I DON'T, I CAN'T SEE HOW WHAT, WHAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE REQUESTING WOULD BE THAT FAR OUTTA THE WAY FROM OTHER CITIES' REQUESTS.

I CAN'T SAY IT'S BEING THAT FAR OUTTA THE BOX.

NO.

THERE DID, DID YOU WANNA RESPOND TO THAT OR IS THAT JUST A COMMENT? THAT'S MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU, MARLA.

YEAH, NO, I, SARAH, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

I LOVE THIS APP.

USE IT ALL THE TIME, MAYBE DAILY, UM, AND JUST, JUST GET A TON OF GREAT STUFF DONE.

AND I'M CONSTANTLY ENCOURAGING OTHERS TO USE IT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE ENCOURAGING ME TO REPORT THE STUFF.

BUT, UM, SO I'M GLAD WE'RE, WE'RE EXPERIENCING GROWTH AND THE ENGAGEMENT.

THAT'S, THAT'S AWESOME.

UM, AND, AND I DO, I DO, I DO THINK YOU HIT A GREAT POINT.

UM, UH, ROCK SOLID.

I THINK, I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT OVER THERE, AND I THINK THERE'S SOMETIMES A LITTLE RELUCTANT.

UM, AND I THINK, AND I APPRECIATE YOU, YOU SHARING SOME THOUGHTS WITH THEM.

I THINK A LOT OF THESE THINGS MAKE A LOT OF COMMON SENSE FOR ALL OF THEIR CLIENTS.

VAGUE WHERE THEY COULD TWEAK THE WORDING AND SAY IT'S JUST OUTSIDE OF THE JURISDICTION.

YOU, YOU, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE.

THE, THE IMAGES, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

SO IN THE APP, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS LIKE, YOU CAN ENTER MAYBE UP TO FOUR IMAGES OR MORE.

WELL, IN REALITY, THEY ONLY ACCEPT THREE.

SO WHY THAT'S VERY CONFUSING FOR A CUSTOMER, A USER WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO HELP SOLVE A PROBLEM AND, AND THEY'VE, THEY'RE JUST DOING WHAT THE APP TELLS THEM, AND THEY'RE KIND OF FALLING IN A TRAP BECAUSE THE APP IS, IS NOT MORE REFINED.

SO WHY, WHY THEY WOULDN'T WANT TO FIX THAT FOR ALL THEIR CUSTOMERS IS BAFFLING TO ME.

AND, AND I HOPE THAT, THAT MAYBE WE CAN ASK THEM TO GIVE US A GOOD ANSWER WHY THEY WOULDN'T WANT TO FIX THAT.

UM, ANOTHER ONE IS YOU CAN, YOU, NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS THE CITY BOUNDARIES LIKE WE DO.

AND, UM, AND, AND SOME FOLKS WILL, WILL BE TRYING TO DO THEIR BEST TO REPORT SOMETHING, BUT MAYBE IT'S JUST A LITTLE OUTSIDE OF ADDISON BOUNDARIES.

WELL, THE, THE, THE ERROR MESSAGE THAT COMES BACK IS UNAVAILABLE, SORRY, THE TYPE OF PROBLEM SELECTED CANNOT BE REPORTED AT THE SPECIFIED LOCATION.

AND SO TO ME, THAT'S A LITTLE, LITTLE

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YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING WITH COUNTIES AND OTHER OTHER ENTITIES, BUT I, I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR ROCK SOLID.

I THINK IT WOULD HELP HELP THEIR CUSTOMERS AND THE USER EXPERIENCE.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING IS, IS JUST YOU GET A LOT OF, UM, YOU GET SOME OF THE NOTIF NOTIFICATIONS ARE VERY REDUNDANT.

SO IF YOU'RE USING YOUR, YOUR PHONE, WHICH I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE, THEY'RE THEY'RE SMART DEVICE, UM, YOU GET A NOTIFICATION RIGHT THERE WHEN AT THE SUBMISSION, HEY, YOU, YOUR SUBMISSION IS COMPLETE.

WE RECEIVED YOUR SUBMISSION.

AND THEN, UM, AND THEN YOU CAN GET EMAILS AND THEN BASICALLY LIKE I GET, I SUBMIT IT, I SEE IT, IT'S DONE, THEY'VE GOT IT ON MY PHONE, AND THEN I GET HOME, I GET AN EMAIL THAT SAYS I GET TWO EMAILS.

THEY BASICALLY SAY THE SAME THING.

ONE'S LIKE, WE RECEIVED IT, THE OTHER ONE'S IN PROCESSING.

SO, SO A LOT OF TIMES IT'S LIKE, UH, FOUR, FOUR EMAILS AFTER THAT.

AND IT, IT'D BE AWESOME IF THEY COULD, LIKE, IF IT, IF ONE OF THOSE INITIAL EMAILS WOULD JUST BE ONE RATHER THAN TWO, IT'S JUST, IT, IT ADDS UP, ESPECIALLY IF YOU USE THE, THE PRODUCT.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS, UM, I'M, I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE TOWN STAFF.

UM, THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF, OF PUTTING SOME TYPE OF RESPONSE.

SO YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE HECK HAS HAPPENED.

AND, AND THAT'S GREAT.

IT'S GOOD, IT'S GREAT TO GET THAT FEEDBACK, BUT ALSO IT, IF YOU USE THE APP ENOUGH, YOU LEARN, HEY, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.

THE WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.

IT'S NOT A CODE VIOLATION, IT'S, IT'S WHATEVER THE SITU AND YOU LEARN FROM THAT AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA REPORT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE IN THE FUTURE.

SO THAT IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL.

AND, UM, I WOULD SAY SINCE UH, WE LAUNCHED THIS THING, ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE COMMUNICATING VERY EFFECTIVELY AND IT IS VERY HELPFUL.

UM, THE ONLY THING I SAY, ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IS, UM, IS I'M, I'M SEEING A LOT OF CODE CODE VIOLATIONS, SO I'M GONNA PROBABLY REPORT MORE CODE VIOLATIONS THAN THE NORMAL PERSON.

BUT ANYTHING WE COULD DO WITHIN CODE TO TRACK THAT STUFF FOR FOLLOW UP, I KNOW THEY, THEY GO OUT THERE, THEY ADDRESS IT, THEY, THEY, UM, SHARE A NOTICE, UM, WITH WHOMEVER.

BUT SOMETIMES SOME OF THOSE FOLKS DON'T CURE THE PROBLEM.

AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF, IF THEY COULD JUST FOLLOW THROUGH, FOLLOW UP WITH THOSE, WITH THOSE CERTAIN SITUATIONS UNTIL THE PROBLEM IS RESOLVED.

SO THANK YOU.

SO 15,500 A YEAR IS, IS A PRETTY LOW COST.

UM, HOW MANY USERS IS THAT FOR? IS IT FOR ALL 300 AND SOMETHING USERS OR IS IT UNLIMITED, UH, FOR EVERYONE THAT HAS DOWNLOADED? NO, NO, NO.

I MEAN, AS FAR AS ON THE STAFF, STAFF USERS, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A LIMIT.

WE DON'T HAVE, THERE'S NO LIMIT.

SO GIVEN THAT THAT'S REALLY, REALLY INEXPENSIVE AND, UM, TO ME THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT.

BUT GIVEN THE COST, I THINK IT'S ADEQUATE.

I THINK IT MEETS THE NEEDS.

THAT'S KIND OF MY ASSESSMENT OF IT.

WE COULD SPEND $50,000 AND GET A LOT MORE FEATURES AND GET A LOT MORE, YOU KNOW, UM, HAVE A LOT MORE PULL WITH THE COMPANY, BUT I THINK IT'S ADEQUATE.

UM, SO WHAT'S THE REWORK OR REOPEN ON A TICKET RATE? I MEAN, HOW MANY TIMES IS IT, UH, ONE CALL CLOSED TYPE DEAL? BECAUSE REWORK ISS A BIG DEAL.

SOMEBODY CLOSES A TICKET, THE PROBLEM'S NOT SOLVED.

THEY, YOU WOULD HAVE TO, RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY WE, THE USER, THE RESIDENT CANNOT REOPEN A TICKET.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT A NEW TICKET.

DO YOU HAVE METRICS ON THAT? I, I DON'T, UM, IT HAPPENS, I DON'T KNOW.

OCCASIONALLY, UM, WHERE SOMEONE DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS RESOLVED, MAYBE NEEDS MORE ADDITIONAL COMMUNICATION, UM, WE CAN START TO TRY TO TRACK THAT.

IT'S JUST A LITTLE, WE COULD MAYBE DO IT BY AUTHOR, BUT IT'S A LITTLE YEAH, WE COULD GET THAT DOWN A LITTLE DIFFICULT, BUT IT'S, I'M NOT GIVING DIRECTIVE.

IT'S A SUGGESTION.

YEAH, BECAUSE THAT, THAT DIRECTLY IMPACTS YOUR CUSTOMER SATISFACTION IS IF YOU FIX IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

YEP.

WHAT, WHAT IS THE EXPECTED SERVICE LEVEL? I MEAN, UH, ARE WE GONNA GET A RESPONSE IN TWO HOURS? ARE WE GONNA GET A, UH, BUSINESS HOURS? SO WITHIN 48 BUSINESS HOURS, YOU'LL GET AN INITIAL RESPONSE.

SO THAT'S SOMETIMES A MAYBE THANK YOU, HOW WE WENT OUT, WE RESOLVED IT, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA CLOSE THE TICKET.

NOW HERE'S MY CONTACT INFORMATION.

UM, BUT SOMETIMES IT MAY BE, HI, BASED ON THE WORKLOAD RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GONNA GO INSPECT THIS AT THE END OF THE WEEK.

WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON FRIDAY.

HERE'S MY NAME, MY CONTACT INFORMATION.

IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO TALK TO ME IN THE MEANTIME OR IT'S URGENT.

UM, SO JUST THAT INITIAL COMMUNICATION, WE WANT BACK WITHIN 48 BUSINESS HOURS.

BUT WE DO, I KNOW OUR TOWN STAFF DOES MONITOR IT CLOSELY, SO IT'S USUALLY MUCH WITHIN SAME BUSINESS DAY, MOST OFTEN.

SO ARE YOU, ARE YOU MONITORING IT MANUALLY OR IS IT SYSTEMIZED TO WHERE YOU'RE GETTING ALERTS AND EXCEPTIONS? WHEN EVERYTHING GO BEYOND THRESHOLDS OF, OF RESPONSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

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SO IT IS AUTOMATICALLY ROUTED TO THE ASSIGNED STAFF MEMBER.

UM, WE CAN SET THRESHOLDS IN THERE, LIKE IF IT GOES BEYOND FIVE DAYS WITHOUT CHANGING FROM, LET'S SAY, RECEIVED TO IN PROGRESS MM-HMM .

WE CAN HAVE THOSE AUTOMATIC ALERT SET UP BEST DO.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S THAT I WOULDN'T WANT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WATCHING THE QUEUE ALL THE TIME.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S KINDA RIDICULOUS.

WORK ON EXCEPTION WOULD BE A, YOU KNOW, BETTER IDEA.

JUST CURIOUS.

AND I USE IT ALSO NOT AS MUCH AS MARLON, NOBODY USES AS MUCH AS MARLON, BUT MAYBE 10%.

IT'S GOOD THOUGH.

UM, AND MY, MY, UM, EXPERIENCE IS VERY GOOD.

SO IT IS VERY FAST RESPONSE.

I MEAN, IT'S USUALLY WITHIN A COUPLE HOURS.

UM, AND, AND IT, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD PLACE TO, UM, DEMONSTRATE YOUR, YOUR, UH, THE ADDISON WAY AND YOUR CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE AND, AND YOUR BRAVE VALUES.

IT'S BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT THE, THE USERS SEE, THAT THE CUSTOMERS SEE OF, OF YOU GUYS.

IT'S THEIR ONLY INTERACTION.

THAT'S ALL THEY SEE.

AND IF YOU'RE KIND AND YOU'RE PROFESSIONAL AND YOU'RE RESPONSIVE AND YOU CARE THAT SAYS EVERYTHING, THAT MAY BE THE ONLY THING THEY KNOW ABOUT THE TOWN FOR THAT WHOLE YEAR.

SO YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

UM, SO I DO LIKE ALSO TO HEAR ABOUT THE, UH, SOPS.

SO YOU DO HAVE, UM, AND YOU DO HAVE TRAINING AND COACHING AND YOU DO SPOT CHECK TICKETS.

IT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA.

UM, WHAT'S THE USAGE COMPARISON FOR OTHER CITIES? I KNOW FARMERS BRANCH HAS, UH, A SIMILAR APP.

UH, I DON'T KNOW.

WE COULD GET THAT.

WE COULD GET THAT INFORMATION.

YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE IT, IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, LOWER YOUR WORKLOAD.

I MEAN, 'CAUSE YOU DO HAVE US OUT THERE FINDING THINGS TO FIX AND, UM, HAVING A HIGHER ADOPTION.

NOT, WE DON'T WANNA MAKE ANY MORE WORK FOR ANYBODY.

WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT.

BUT WE DO WANT TO BE AWARE OF IT AND CATCH THINGS MORE PROACTIVELY.

THAT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS A, A GOOD THING TO DO.

SO, UM, DO YOU PUT, UH, ANY SORT OF NOTIFICATION ON A PROBLEM THAT'S ALREADY BEEN, UM, REPORTED? LIKE YOU, YOU DO HAVE AN A, UH, FOUNTAIN THAT'S OUT.

DO YOU GO OUT THERE AND PUT A QR CODE ON IT TO SAY, HEY, HERE'S THE STATUS OR A MACHINE IN THE GYM THAT SAYS, THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN REPORTED 400 TIMES, YOU DON'T NEED TO REPORT IT AGAIN.

ARE Y'ALL DOING THAT? I THINK IT DEPENDS ON EACH DEPARTMENT AND HOW THEY MAY COMMUNICATE THAT, WHETHER THAT BE THE A A C OR A DRINKING FOUNTAIN.

BUT I KNOW IT'S, IT WOULD HELPFUL WITH PEOPLE HAVING TO REPORT THINGS AGAIN AND THEN YOU STAFF LOOKING AT IT FIVE TIMES OR 500 TIMES.

AND, AND SO WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT IT, THE USER REPORTS AND IT SAYS, OH, IT'S ALREADY BEEN REPORTED.

THE APPLICATION ITSELF HAS THAT OPTION.

BEFORE YOU REPORT IT SAYS, IS IT SIMILAR HELP DESK NEAR ME BEING REPORTED? IT WOULD DISPLAY ALL OF IT.

SO IT WOULD TELL THE USER, YEAH, I WOULDN'T SAY WHO REPORTED IT, BUT IT TELL YOU THAT IF YOU'RE REPORTING POTHOLE MM-HMM .

IT'S ALREADY BEEN REPORTED 10 TIMES.

SO IT TELLS MARLON THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN REPORTED.

I'M NOT GONNA GET IN THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT , IT TELLS ME THAT'S ALREADY BEEN REPORTED.

THAT, THAT USER, UM, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD, UH, GREAT TOOL.

IT'S A GREAT USAGE OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND IT, AND IT DOES HELP, YOU KNOW, DELIVER THE SERVICE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DELIVER.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE, THE PRESENTATION.

REALLY GOOD INFORMATION.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU SARAH.

TWO, PROCLAMATIONS OF PRESENTATIONS TWO, A CITY MANAGERS ANNOUNCEMENTS AND TWO B EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION.

HUMID.

ALRIGHT, UH, FOR ITEM SIX A AND SIX C, WE'RE GONNA DO THOSE AFTER OUR REGULAR MEETINGS.

SO IT'S SEVEN 12 RIGHT NOW.

WE'LL TAKE A, UH, 10 MINUTE RECESS AND WE'LL RECONVENE IN THE CHAMBERS.

BEING HERE.

GLAD TO SEE EVERYBODY.

AS ALWAYS, WE'D LIKE TO START WITH THE PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS.

IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE AS YOU'RE ABLE PLEDGE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, A PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE TEXAS.

ONE STATE UNDER GOD.

ONE INDIVISIBLE.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER

[2. Proclamations / Presentations]

DAVID GAINES.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR TONIGHT.

YOU'RE INVITED TO COFFEE WITH A COP TOMORROW, JUNE 10TH FROM 9:00 AM TO 11:00 AM AT DOLCE PARADISO IN ADDISON CIRCLE.

WHETHER YOU WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT OR SIMPLY SAY HELLO, COFFEE WITH A COP IS A GREAT WAY TO CONNECT WITH THE OFFICERS WHO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY EVERY DAY.

NEXT, COME KICK IT IN ADDISON THIS WEEKEND AS WE CELEBRATE THE START OF THE WORLD CUP IN DFW.

WE'LL BE SHOWING THE MATCHES ON A HUGE SCREEN IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK FROM THURSDAY TO JUNE 11TH THROUGH SUNDAY, JUNE 14TH, ALONG WITH FOOD TRUCKS, BOUNCE HOUSES, AND A VARIETY OF ACTIVITIES.

GET ALL THE DETAILS OF THE FOR THIS FREE EVENT@VISITADDISON.COM SLASH KICK IT.

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THE SCREEN IS GOING UP RIGHT NOW AND IT LOOKS GREAT.

FINALLY, JUST AS A REMINDER, THE TOWN OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON FRIDAY, JUNE 19TH FOR THE JUNETEENTH HOLIDAY.

FEEL FREE TO CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY PUBLIC SAFETY NUMBER AT 4 6 9 2 8 9 3 2 7 OH WHEN OFFICES ARE CLOSED IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE.

NEXT WE HAVE OUR EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION AND BECKY IS GONNA COME UP.

BECKY DIVINITY, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING.

UM, TODAY I HAVE CAESAR SAN, CAESAR SANCHEZ WITH ME.

HE IS A VALUE MEMBER OF OUR ORGANIZATION WHOSE COMMITMENT TO SERVICE AND LEADERSHIP AND COMMUNITY REFLECTS THE VERY BEST OF ADDISON.

HE WAS BORN AND RAISED IN PLANO, TEXAS AND GRADUATED FROM PLANO EAST SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL IN 2004 BEFORE PURSUING STUDIES IN, UH, COLLIN COLLEGE, WHERE HE EARNED A FIRE SCIENCE DEGREE WITH EMT CERTIFICATION.

CAESAR IS MARRIED TO CLAUDIA VIAL AND TOGETHER THEY HAVE A BLENDED FAMILY WITH CAESAR'S SON, ANDREW LUNA, WHO IS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF FARMER'S BRANCH.

UM, A FAMILY DYNAMIC THAT SEAWARD CAESAR DESCRIBES SIMPLY AS MEANINGFUL.

UM, WE MAKE IT WORK.

UM, HE'S A LOYAL SPORTS FAN AND CHEERS PROUDLY FOR FC DALLAS, WHICH IS FITTING FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AROUND TOWN.

UM, CAESAR'S PATH TO ADDISON BEGAN WITH HEARING GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE TOWN AND BEING GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY BY LISA PYLES, A FORMER DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS AT THAT TIME TO JOIN THE TEAM.

AN OPPORTUNITY CAESAR IS GRATEFUL FOR AND HAS USED TO GROW INTO A RESPECTED LEADER WITHIN OUR WATER QUALITY DIVISION.

CAESAR'S BEEN WITH THE TOWN ALMOST 12 YEARS AMONG PROFESSIONAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

CAESAR IS ESPECIALLY PROUD OF STEPPING INTO A LEADERSHIP ROLE IN WATER QUALITY, A MILESTONE THAT REFLECTS DEDICATION, TECHNICAL EXPERTISE, AND A COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE COLLEAGUES KNOWN THE DEPTH OF THIS HEART, CHARACTER AND RESPONSIBILITY CAESAR BRINGS TO EVERY ASPECT TO OF WORK AND LIFE.

UM, AND I WILL PERSONALLY SAY THAT CAESAR IS THE ONE WHO IS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE WATER, UH, AND SEWER AT ALL TIMES.

SO HE'S OVER ALL OF THE PUMP STATIONS, LIFT STATIONS, ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS, AND I PROMISE YOU THIS MANSER EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, UM, WORKING VERY HARD.

SO I'M VERY PROUD OF CESAR.

UM, TO CESAR.

THE ADDISON WAY MEANS TREATING PEOPLE THE WAY YOU WANNA BE TREATED, WHETHER THEY'RE CUSTOMERS, COLLEAGUES, OR RESIDENTS.

IT'S A SIMPLE PRINCIPLE WITH A POWERFUL IMPACT AND ONE THAT CAESAR, UM, EXEMPLIFIES DAILY.

SO PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING CAESAR.

ALRIGHTY.

YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? NO, .

BECKY CAESAR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE TO ADDISON.

REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.

GREAT PUBLIC WORKS TEAM.

ALL RIGHT, THAT ALL FOR YOU, DAVID? THAT'S IT.

UH, NEXT ITEM THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT.

[3. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.]

THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE NOT, THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.

CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW.

THE COUNCIL IS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

I DO HAVE ONE COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARD, SO I WILL CALL FORWARD.

UH, MICHAEL, I'M GONNA TRY TO PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME CORRECTLY.

IS IT AFO? YES, SIR.

WOO.

GOT THAT RIGHT.

HOW ABOUT THAT? GOOD JOB.

AND IF YOU WOULD JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

UM, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

UM, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL OTTO.

UM, I LIVE IN JUST BATTLE WALMART 5 6 6 5 HOUR POWER ROAD.

AS YOU CAN TELL, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN ACCENT, WHICH IS AWESOME, .

WHEN YOU GO TO, WAS IT SECTION OH 58 DASH 41, I BELIEVE HE SAID THAT IT IS AGAINST YOUR RULES TO BE ABLE TO KICK A BALL, WHICH IS THE BALL IS CONSIDERED AS A PROJECTOR AND IT'S DANGEROUS TO KICK BALL ON THIS PARK.

SO, UM, WITH WHAT I HAVE TODAY, UM, I BELIEVE MY 30 MINUTES HAS STARTED WHAT I HAVE TODAY.

UM, I'M MEAN BY NO MEANS ATTACKING ANYBODY OR TRYING TO ATTACK YOUR PERSONALITY OR ANY CHARACTER OR ANYTHING.

I'M JUST ADDRESSING THE SITUATION OR THE MATTER AT HAND.

SO THAT BEING SAID, UM, I WAS, I WAS HAPPY WHEN I HEARD THAT.

UM, YOU MADE MENTION OF THE KICK IT, UM, SOCCER SEASON, WHICH IN AMERICA REFERRED TO AS SOCCER, BUT ALL EVERYWHERE ELSE IS REFERRED TO AS FOOTBALL.

BUT, UM, I DID NOTICE SOMETHING THAT, UM, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, A YOUNG MAN WHO I BELIEVE WORKS FOR YOU INDICATED THAT YOU CAN'T KICK SOCCER BALL ON THIS PARK, WHICH IS STRANGE TO ME.

IF I'M, I'M, I HAVE A GODSEND, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TRAIN HIM OUT TO KICK BALL HERE.

AND THIS IS OUR PARK.

I SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND HE INDICATED THAT, UM, ON THE ORDINANCE,

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IT DOESN'T FOLLOW LOGIC FOR ME BECAUSE IF I HAVE A NEPHEW AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO KICK SOCCER WITH HIM HERE, IT SHOULD BE PERMITTED.

THIS IS .

AND HE INDICATED ALSO THAT, UM, UNLESS YOU PLAY OR KICK THE BALL ON DESIGNATED FIELDS, WHILE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS, WE ASKED HIM WHERE IS THIS PLACE? HE COULDN'T SHOW US.

SO, UM, RESPECTFULLY, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHERE IS THIS PLACE THAT WE CAN KICK BALLS WITH OUR NEPHEWS OR EVEN OUR COUSINS? LITTLE COUSINS, BECAUSE THIS IS OUR PARK.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

THIS IS SOCCER SEASON.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO EVEN DO THAT.

AND WE'VE DONE THIS FOR MY, ME AND MY FRIENDS HAVE DONE THIS FOR MORE THAN FIVE YEARS OVER HERE.

NO ONE SAID A THING.

I DON'T KNOW WHY IT CHANGED.

SO I DO HAVE TWO THINGS TO LIST HERE.

IF IT'S FOR OUR SAFETY, I DON'T BELIEVE, UH, MY LITTLE COUSIN OR MY LITTLE NEPHEW CAN HURT ME.

KICKING BALL.

I'VE PLAYED PRO SOCCER IN SO MANY PLACES IN EUROPE AND OTHER PLACES.

THERE'S NO WAY, WHICH IS FACTUAL.

THERE'S NO WAY THIS LITTLE COUSINS CAN KICK A BALL TO HURT ME.

THEY DON'T HAVE THAT POWER IN THEIR FOOT.

THEY DON'T HAVE IT.

THEY CAN'T.

SO IF IT'S FOR OUR SAFETY, THEN THAT, THAT ORDINANCE DOESN'T PROTECT OUR SAFETY.

NUMBER TWO, IF IT'S FOR THE SAFETY OF THE FIELD OR THE GRASS, THEN I CAN SAY THAT IT'S FAILS.

WHY? BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN AT OCTOBER 1ST AND OCTOBER 1ST, WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO DIG HOLES AND PLANT METALS IN THERE FOR THE EVENT.

I WAS THERE.

I HAD FUN.

I ENJOYED OCTOBER 1ST.

IT'S TIME UP.

OH, ONCE, UM, 10 SECONDS, OCTOBER 1ST.

I HAD GREAT TIME HERE AND I CAME, I SAW THEM ROLLING, MET, UM, SOME STUFF PLAYING DANGEROUS GAMES WITH PROJECTORS.

WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT.

WHY CAN'T WE DO IT? BE IT IS JUST SOCCER.

SO I'M PLEADING MAYBE IT'S A MISCOMMUNICATION WITH YOUR WORKER AND THE PROBABLY COULDN'T EXPLAIN THE ORDINANCE PROPERLY, BUT I'M BEGGING AND PLEADING WITH YOU THAT YOU PLEASE PERMIT US.

IS PICK UP SOCCER LIKE FIVE, SIX PEOPLE.

AND WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT OVER THERE.

THANK YOU FOR COMMENTS.

THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY AMAZING.

AND, UH, THAT'S THE ONLY COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARD I HAVE.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? COME ON FORWARD.

HI, I AM JACK GARRETTS.

I LIVE AT 1 7, 1 1 8 KNOTTS LANDING.

I'M HERE WITH A PRESENT.

I MOVED TO ADDISON ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.

AND, UH, THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON AT THAT TIME IN MY LIFE.

I WAS DOWNSIZING.

MY WIFE HAD PASSED AWAY.

I'D RETIRED AND I WAS KIND OF GOING, OKAY, WHAT DO I DO? SO I'M AN ARTIST AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN ART FOR MOST OF MY LIFE, BUT WASN'T ABLE TO ACHIEVE ANY OF IT WHILE I WAS WORKING.

WELL, THANKS TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON, I HAD NOW HAVE GOTTEN INTO ANOTHER PART OF MY LIFE THAT I'M ENJOYING GREATLY.

I JUST RECENTLY FINISHED A PROJECT WITH EMILY AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE TOWN A REPRESENTATION OF MY WORK AND SAY, THANKS FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS AND BEING FRIENDLY.

WOW.

AND JACK, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF YOUR WORK AND YOU'RE VERY TALENTED AND, UH, THANK YOU.

COULD YOU TELL PEOPLE YOUR METHOD OF DOING YOUR ART? THIS IS A, THIS IS A COLORED PENCIL DRAWING, AND I START WITH A PHOTOGRAPH AND I LINE IT OUT AND THEN THE COLOR STARTS GETTING ADDED OVER TIME AND, UH, IT TAKES A WHILE.

UH, SOME ARE MORE DIFFICULT THAN OTHERS.

I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THE ONE THAT I DID FOR THE, UH, BLUEPRINTS YES.

SCULPTURE.

AND, UH, THAT, THAT ONE ALMOST KILLED ME.

BUT ANYHOW, THIS WAS A LITTLE EASIER.

ANYHOW, THANKS YOU SO MUCH.

AND, UH, I'D LOVE TO SEE IT HUNG UP WHEREVER YOU WOULD LIKE.

NOT IN YOUR OFFICE, .

NO, WE NEED TO PUT MORE PEOPLE CAN SEE IT.

SO THANK YOU JACK.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

JACK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR BEING A RESIDENT.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR US.

HIM A PICTURE OF OUR CAT.

SHOULD WE DO A PICTURE? YEAH, PLEASE.

I CAN ADD TO THAT.

I'VE COMMISSIONED JACK FOR A PERSONAL PIECE.

MY WIFE AND I MET JACK IN, UH, CITIZENS ACADEMY AND, UM, WE JUST GOT TO TALKING AND LO AND BEHOLD, HE PULLED OUT HIS PHONE, SHOWED SOME PHOTOS, AND SHOWED

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AND HE DID A DRAWING OF BUDDY, WHICH WAS PROUDLY DISPLAYED IN THE ADDISON TOWN HALL FOR A WHILE.

SO HE IS, HE'S WORTHY TO COMMISSION ARTWORK.

THANK YOU, JACK.

BEAUTIFUL.

REALLY GREAT.

OKAY, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT

[4. Consent Agenda. All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]

AND MOVE TO ITEM FOUR, THE CONSENT AGENDA.

CONSENT TONIGHT INCLUDES ITEMS FOUR A AND FOUR A, JUST FOUR A.

IS THERE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND CHRIS, THE SECOND FROM MARLON.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ALRIGHT, LET'S GO TO ITEM FIVE A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PERMEATED USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.

[5.a. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request to amend the permitted use and development standards for Planned Development, Ordinance Nos. 085-100 and 095-035, for a 2.42± acre property generally located at the northwest corner of Landmark Place and Dallas Parkway, and addressed as 14841 North Dallas Parkway. Case 1951-Z/Aberdeen PD Amendment.]

ORDINANCE.

NUMBERS 0 8 5 DASH 100 AND 0 9 5 DASH 0 3 5 FOR A 2.42 ACRE PROPERTY.

GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF LANDMARK PLACE IN DALLAS PARKWAY.

AND ADDRESSED, ADDRESSED AS 1 4 8 4 1.

UH, DALLAS PARKWAY CASE, 1951 DASH Z SLASH ABERDEEN PD AMENDMENT.

COREY.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

UH, TODAY I HAVE A, UH, PD AMENDMENT, SORRY, COREY BECK, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UH, TODAY I HAVE A PD AMENDMENT REQUEST THAT IS TO ALLOW FOR A BROADER RANGE OF USES AT THE ABERDEEN BUILDING.

UM, PRIOR TO 1985, THIS PROPERTY WAS ZONED FOR INDUSTRIAL.

HOWEVER, IN 1985, IT WAS REZONED TO A PD TO ALLOW FOR OFFICE AND RESTAURANT USES.

UM, AND SOME OF YOU MAY ACTUALLY KNOW THIS BUILDING AS THE PIZZA HUT, UM, HEADQUARTERS.

UH, AND THE RESTAURANTS THAT WERE IN THE BOTTOM FLOOR WERE ACTUALLY THE PIZZA HUT, UM, TEST KITCHENS.

SO .

UM, THEN IN 1995, THERE WAS A PD AMENDMENT, UM, TO ALLOW FOR A NEW PARKING RATIO FOR OF, UM, ONE SPACE PER 350 SQUARE FEET OF USABLE AREA OF THE BUILDING.

AND THEN TODAY WE HAVE THE REQUEST FOR, UM, ALLOWING A BROADER RANGE OF USES.

AND I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THOSE DIFFERENT USES, UM, IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES.

CURRENTLY, THE PD ALLOWS FOR OFFICE AND RESTAURANT.

THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 1200 SQUARE FEET OF RESTAURANT ON THE GROUND FLOOR.

LIKE I SAID, THOSE WERE THE, UM, UH, PIZZA HUT, UH, TEST KITCHENS, BUT ARE NOT, UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE ARE NOT BEING USED TODAY AS, UM, AS RESTAURANTS.

THE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE IS, UH, ROUGHLY 350,000 SQUARE FEET.

UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE WITHIN THIS BUILDING.

UM, AND OFFICE BEING ONE USE IS, IS PRETTY LIMITING ON WHAT CAN ACTUALLY GO INTO THIS BUILDING.

UM, SO THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS ASKED TO AMEND THE PD TO INCLUDE SEVERAL MORE, UM, UH, U LAND USES THAT ARE FROM THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

UM, STILL CONTINUING TO HAVE OFFICE AND STILL CONTINUING TO HAVE RESTAURANT AS ALLOWED USES, BUT WANTING TO ADD SEVERAL OTHERS.

UM, THE FIRST WOULD BE THE DAYCARE CENTER FOR ADULT OR CHILD OR CHILD.

UM, WE WOULD ALSO INCLUDE, OR THIS PROPOSAL ALSO INCLUDES, UM, USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR SOME OF THE USES AS WELL THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE USE STANDARDS IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

UM, SO THE ADULT DAYCARE IS ONE OF THEM THAT DOES, UH, HAVE, USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS.

AND THIS WOULD ONLY BE PERMITTED ON THE GROUND FLOOR.

AND ANYTHING OVER 5,000 SQUARE FEET WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS WELL.

UH, ADDITIONALLY THEY'RE REQUESTING TO ADD VOCATIONAL OR TRADE SCHOOLS.

THIS WOULD ALSO REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING TO DO MEDICAL CLINIC.

UM, UH, ADDITIONAL USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR THIS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IN THAT FREESTANDING MEDICAL CLINICS ARE NOT PERMITTED AND THAT ANYTHING OVER 3000 SQUARE FEET WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

THE NEXT COUPLE ARE, UM, PROPOSED USES THAT ARE PERMITTED, WOULD BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT, UH, THAT WOULD BE RECREATION FACILITY, INDOORS, BANK OR FINANCIAL INSTITUTION, PERSONAL SERVICES AND RETAIL SALES UP TO 15,000 SQUARE

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FEET.

AND LASTLY, THE LAST, UH, REQUESTED, PROPOSED PERMITTED USE IS TO ALLOW FOR DATA CENTERS.

UH, THIS WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

UM, AND THEN CONSISTENT WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, ALL ACTIVITIES WOULD BE, WOULD OCCUR INSIDE OF THE ENCLOSED STRUCTURE.

UH, THIS AREA IS IN OUR, UM, PLACE TYPE OF HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CENTER.

SO THIS AREA WOULD, UH, PRIORITIZE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND REINFORCE THE, UH, CONTINUITY WITH THE URBAN, UM, AREA AS WELL AS IT'S IN OUR SPECTRUM OF CHANGE, UM, AREA FOR DEVELOP SLASH REDEVELOP, MEANING THAT IT IS EXPECTED TO UNDERGO SIGNIFICANT, UM, DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT WITHIN, UM, THE, THE LIFETIME AND WOULD LIKE TO INTENSIFY USES TO ALIGN WITH THE PLACE TYPE SURROUNDING THE BUILDING OR SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY IS, UM, A MIX OF RESTAURANTS, OFFICE SPACE, RETAIL, PERSONAL SERVICES AND HOTELS.

YOU ALSO HAVE A VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY OFF TO THE EAST.

UM, AND SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE TO THE WEST.

ALL OF THE USES THAT ARE PROPOSED ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE, UH, SURROUNDING MIX OF COMMERCIAL USES.

UH, WE DID NOTICE, UH, WITHIN 200 FEET THAT WAS SENT TO FIVE RECIPIENTS.

UM, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY, UH, RESPONSE BACK PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID, UH, HEAR THIS REQUEST AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SEVEN TO ZERO.

UH, AND SO STAFF EVALUATED IT AND, UM, DOES, UH, DETERMINE THAT IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE TOWN'S ADOPTED POLICIES AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

UH, IN THE, UM, A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT IS HERE TODAY AS WELL.

FOR QUESTIONS OR PRESENTATIONS? JUST QUESTIONS, UH, QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU COREY.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? ALRIGHT, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

SO IT'S FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO ARE, ARE THERE ANY, UH, PROPOSED, UH, FOLKS LOOKING AT THIS AND WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF USES CURRENTLY, UH, IN THE INTEREST? UM, HI, I'M SALLY SUCH, I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF JP ABERDEEN.

I WORK DIRECTLY FOR THE OWNER.

UM, REALLY OVER THE LAST ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, WE'VE STARTED TO HAVE AN INFLUX OF JUST NOT OFFICE.

LIKE WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF, YOU KNOW, PHYSICAL THERAPISTS LOOKING TO COME INTO THE BUILDING.

UM, WE HAD A GOLF SIMULATOR COMPANY COMING AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN JUST A LOT OF CHANGE OVER TIME WITH THE AREA EVEN CHANGING ITSELF.

IT'S JUST NOT OFFICE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME AND, AND WORK IN ADDISON, BUT SOMETIMES WE'VE HAD TO TURN PEOPLE AWAY AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, HEADING UP TO PLANO OR BACK DOWNTOWN AND WE WANNA KEEP THEM IN ADDISON.

I'VE BEEN, UM, IN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT IN ADDISON FOR, YOU KNOW, 10 PLUS YEARS AND WE WANT OUR CITY TO, TO GROW AND HAVE PEOPLE COME AND WORK AND LIVE HERE.

SO WE, UM, STARTED WORKING WITH CORY SEVERAL MONTHS AGO ON THIS AND I THINK IT'S, UM, A BUILDING THAT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED QUITE SOME TIME AGO.

UM, JUST FOR THE LOCATION ITSELF, I THINK IT COULD JUST DO BETTER, SO.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

JUST AS FAR AS WE DON'T HAVE, WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT WE'VE TURNED AWAY, BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A, A BIG TENANT IN MIND.

UM, WE DID PUT THAT BOX INTO OUR BUILDING, THEIR OFFICE COMPONENT, BUT THEY'RE STARTING SOME ENGAGING CONVERSATIONS, CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PUTTING IN SOME TYPE OF SIMILAR LATER.

SO WE'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THEM AND HAVE THEM GROW IN THAT BUILDING.

AGREE.

JUST WAS CURIOUS ON WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.

ANYTHING ELSE? UH, WELL STANDBY, DON'T GO DO IN CASE SOMEBODY ELSE HAS.

GOOD.

RANDY? YES.

IS THIS FOR THE APPLICANT OR FOR, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY.

HUT LEFT THE BUILDING, THERE'S NOT BEEN ANOTHER DAYCARE IN THERE.

I, I HAD THE SAME QUESTION.

IS THIS, WAS THIS SOMEONE THAT HAS COME TO YOU WANTING TO DO THIS OR IS THIS YOU'RE TRYING TO EXPAND YOUR, YOUR REACH TO THE, TO THE PUBLIC? I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN TURNING A LOT OF COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDINGS HERE LATELY.

UHHUH, , AND IT SEEMS AS THOUGH, UM, DAYCARE CENTERS MM-HMM .

ARE, ARE BECOMING MORE POPULAR AS AN AMENITY MM-HMM .

FOR THE EMPLOYEES IN ALL OF THESE OFFICE BUILDINGS.

AND I THINK PROBABLY WHEN THE ABERDEEN WAS BUILT, THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN A THING.

WELL, WHEN THE PIZZA HUT WAS THERE, IT DID HAVE A DAYCARE.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST GO AHEAD AND STAY IN FRONT OF THE MICROPHONE.

OH, SORRY.

SO WHEN THE PIZZA HUT BUILDING, WHEN IT WAS OPERATING AS A PIZZA HUT HEADQUARTERS, THERE WAS A DAYCARE CENTER IN THERE FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF PIZZA HUT AND THEIR AFFILIATES WHEN PIZZA

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I DON'T THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED UNDER OWNERSHIP ABOUT PUTTING A DAYCARE CENTER IN THERE, BUT WE CERTAINLY WOULD ENTERTAIN THAT.

UM, IT'S A GREAT LOCATION, YOU KNOW, TO, FOR PARENTS AND OKAY.

TO DROP.

WELL, I THOUGHT THAT WAS IN THE PRESENTATION.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BEING REQUESTED.

YES, WE WAS THE DAYCARE FOR CHILD AND ADULT.

WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE LIST THAT WAS, WAS AVAILABLE TO US WITH COREY, WE DECIDED TO ADD THAT FOR AN OPTION.

I GOTCHA, I GOTCHA.

AND IF, IF, WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THE BUILDING NOW, COREY, THAN IT WAS WHEN PIZZA HUT HAD A DAYCARE, WHY, WHY WERE THEY ABLE TO HAVE ONE THEN AND THEY CAN'T HAVE ONE NOW UNDER THEIR CURRENT? WHY WOULD THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR THAT NOW? UH, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

UM, FULLY ON THE HISTORY OF THE PIZZA HUT CORPORATION, UM, IF I HAD TO GUESS IT WAS AN ACCESSORY THAT PIZZA HUT, UH, ACCESSORY USE THAT PIZZA HUT, UM, FUNDED, PUT TOGETHER THAT AND SO FORTH, IT WAS UNDER THE PIZZA HUT CORPORATION.

UM, WHEREAS NOW THE REQUEST WOULD BE IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO PUT A, UM, A DAYCARE IN AS THEIR OWN BUSINESS, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A TENANT THAT IS BIG ENOUGH TO HAVE AN ACCESSORY USE OF THEIR OWN, UH, DAYCARE FOR THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL, UM, EMPLOYEES.

SO IF, IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THEN ANY, ANY TENANT THAT'S IN THAT BUILDING, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ZONED FOR THAT, A TENANT COULD DO THAT FOR THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES, BUT JUST NOT FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

UM, I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE UDC UH, FURTHER TO LOOK AT OUR, UM, UH, ACCESSORY USES.

UM, BUT MY GUESS IS THAT IS WHAT, HOW IT HAPPENED WITH THE PIZZA HUT CORPORATION.

I MEAN, UH, THAT, THAT JUST SEEMS TO BE AN AMENITY THAT ALL THESE BUILDINGS ARE PROVIDED NOW.

SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO DO IT THEN DON'T DO IT NOW.

AND WHAT, WHAT'S GOING FORWARD NOW IN YOUR PRESENTATION ON MEDICAL CLINICS? DID YOU SAY THAT THEY WERE REQUESTING A MEDICAL CLINIC AND IT WOULD NOT BE APPROVED? OR DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT? UM, SO ALL OF THE PER ALL OF THE PROPOSED PERMITTED USES ARE JUST THAT THEY ARE A, UM, ASKING TO PUT THOSE AS OPTIONS INTO THE PD ITSELF.

UM, NOT THAT THERE IS AN ACTUAL TENANT THAT THEY HAVE IN MIND.

UM, THE USE SPECIFIC STANDARD THAT I BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING IS THAT THE FREESTANDING MEDICAL CLINICS WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED, MEANING THE ENTIRE BUILDING COULDN'T BECOME A MEDICAL CLINIC.

UM, SO INDIVIDUAL TENANTS COULD BE MEDICAL RELATED, UM, BUT A SINGLE TENANT, UM, UH, MEDICAL CLINIC COULD NOT COME IN FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

WELL, IT, THEY CAN HAVE A MEDICAL CLINIC IN THERE NOW IF IT JUST DOESN'T TAKE UP THE WHOLE BUILDING, NO, BECAUSE MEDICAL CLINIC IS NOT CONS, UM, UH, IS NOT DESIGNATED WOULD OFFICE, I WOULD OPPOSED TO A MEDICAL CLINIC BEING IN THAT BUILDING OR ANY OTHER OFFICE BUILDING, UM, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF CERTAIN USERS THAT MIGHT COME IN AND TRY TO USE THAT FAC TO TRY TO USE THAT ZONING.

SO I WOULD BE OPPOSED TO THAT.

UH, BUT THE OTHER THINGS I THINK ARE, ARE THINGS THAT, UM, ARE PRETTY MUCH IN THE NORM NOW WHEN, WHEN WE'RE GETTING INTO THIS AND, AND ARE WE HAVING TO DO THIS NOW BECAUSE OF OUR NEW UDC? OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING? UM, SO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS OUTSIDE OF THE UDC.

UM, AND, UH, LIKE I PRESENTED, UM, IT ONLY ALLOWS FOR OFFICE AND RESTAURANT.

SO, UM, WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE LEASING, UH, OR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, UM, UH, AGENCY HAVING TO TURN AWAY POTENTIAL PE UH, TENANTS, UM, THEY CAME TO US BECAUSE, UH, THEY'RE, THEY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO FILL THEIR, UM, THEIR OFFICE SPACE.

WELL, THEY'RE NOT GETTING OFFICE TENANTS, SO THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO STILL LEASE OUT THE BUILDING.

UM, AND ALLOW AND REQUESTING THESE USES IS, UH, THE WAY THAT THEY CAN LEASE OUT THE BUILDING AND, UM, THE NEW TENANTS GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

THROUGH ZONING TO HELP YOUR, YOUR, I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT YOUR BUILDING'S ABOUT 60%, UM, OCCUPIED NOW ABOUT 73 RIGHT NOW YOU'RE ABOUT 73.

I I, WOULD YOU LIKE, LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? ANYTHING THAT I ASKED OR SHE COVER EVERYTHING PRETTY GOOD IN MY QUESTION.

I, I JUST WANNA SAY I LOVE THAT BUILDING THE ABERDEEN I THINK IS ONE OF THE MORE OVERLOOKED JEWELS THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN.

AND, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP YOU GET PEOPLE IN.

IT'S A SLEEPING GIANT.

IT IS, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING IS WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO PUT IN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, WELL THERE'S JUST CERTAIN THINGS THAT I WOULDN'T WANT IN ANY BUILDING SO THAT, THAT'S NOT DIRECTED AT AT THE ABERDEEN.

SO, BUT IF, IF WE CAN HELP YOU GET SOME AMENITIES

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THAT WAS BETTER THAN WHAT WE WERE TOLD.

SO THAT'S, UH, GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND, UH, THANK YOU.

LIKE I SAY EVERYTHING BUT THE MEDICAL CLINIC ON THIS, I, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH.

I AGREE.

MAYOR, DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? DID YOU SAY I SAID THAT, I SAID THAT'S GOOD.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

FOR THE APPLICANT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR.

OH, YES SIR.

AS ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO WORK WITH OUR TOWN STAFF AND TRY TO BRING NEW RESOURCES TO THE BUILDING FOR ABERDEEN.

I DON'T GO ANYWHERE UNLESS COREY'S WITH ME.

SO IT'S FANTASTIC.

SO YEAH, WE CAN BE OF HELP.

PLEASE, PLEASE ASK.

THANK YOU CHRIS.

UH, COREY, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, I I I'LL SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT'LL HELP SOME OF THESE TOWERS GET LEASED UP.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AND IT'S REALLY JUST A QUESTION.

SOME OF THESE USES, UH, RESTAURANT, VOCATIONAL SCHOOL OR TRADE, UH, MEDICAL CLINIC, THE DATA CENTER, THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

SO WE WILL GET THE OPPORTUNITY CASE BY CASE TO LOOK AT IT, MAKE SURE IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A FITNESS CENTER OR A GYM OR SOMETHING THAT UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE ADEQUATE PARKING.

SO WE WILL GET IT THE, THE SECOND OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY APPROVE THAT.

IS THAT RIGHT? UM, FOR THE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED FOR SPECIAL USE PERMITS, CORRECT? YEAH.

UM, FOR IF A FITNESS CENTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WANTED TO GO IN, UM, YOU WOULD NOT, BUT STAFF WOULD EVALUATE IF THEY HAD SUFFICIENT PARKING OR ANY, UM, OTHER UM, UH, DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

SO BACK TO, UH, THE MEDICAL CLINIC OF 3000 SQUARE FEET.

SO IF IT'S UNDER 3000 SQUARE FEET, IT WOULDN'T NEED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT? CORRECT.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THERE BEING MEDICAL CLINICS IN THERE.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT NOW? ALRIGHT, UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND UH, ANYBODY IN PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM CAN COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

AND SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

MOTION A SECOND AS SUBMITTED.

MARLON AS SUBMITTED.

AS SUBMITTED.

I'LL MOTION A SECOND.

THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND, DAN.

I WASN'T SURE WHERE THAT CAME FROM, BUT, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

FIVE B, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

ITEM FIVE A IS APPROVED.

[5.b. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request for a Special Use Permit (SUP) for property located at 5000 Belt Line Road, Suite 430 that is currently zoned Planned Development (PD), Ordinance No. 004-001, for a restaurant to allow late-night hours of operation. Case 1952-SUP/Insomnia Cookies Late-Night Hours.]

SUP FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5,000 BELTLINE ROAD, SUITE FOUR 30.

THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 0 0 4 DASH 0 0 1 FOR RESTAURANT TO ALLOW LATE NIGHT HOURS OF OPERATION CASE 1952 DASH U SLASH INSOMNIA COOKIES, LATE NIGHT HOURS.

COREY? GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR, UH, CORY BECK, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UH, TONIGHT I HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR INSOMNIA COOKIES.

UH, THEY ARE ASKING FOR LATE NIGHT HOURS OF OPERATION.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, OUR NEW, UH, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES REQUIRE, UM, REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT OF RESTAURANTS HAVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN GENERAL AND ONLY REQUIRES IT IF THEY ARE WANTING LATE NIGHT HOURS OF OPERATION, WHICH IS WHY THIS REQUEST IS COMING TO YOU.

NOW.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED, UH, PD ORDINANCE ZERO, UH, 2004 AND 0 0 1.

UM, THE SURROUNDING AREA INCLUDES A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF OTHER RESTAURANTS AND COMMERCIAL USES AND, UH, INSOMNIA.

COOKIES OPENED IN LATE DECEMBER, EARLY JANUARY TIMEFRAME.

UM, THEY CURRENTLY CLOSE AT 11:00 PM AND ARE APPROXIMATELY 1400 SQUARE FEET.

THEY DO NOT SELL ALCOHOL AND THE APPROVAL OF THIS, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WOULD ACTUALLY ALLOW, UH, UH, ROUGHLY 10, UH, CUSTOMERS TO EAT ON SITE.

UM, 'CAUSE THEY ARE ADDING A SEATING AREA TO THE EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE IN THEIR FLOOR PLAN OFF TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THEY'RE ADDING SOME BAR SEATING.

SO THE, THE REQUEST THAT I HAVE IS FOR, UM, HOURS OF OPERATION.

THEIR PROPOSED HOURS ARE SUNDAY NOON TO ONE, MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, 11:00 AM TO 1:00 AM SUNDAY AND FRIDAY 11:00 AM TO 3:00 AM AND SATURDAY NOON TO 3:00 AM.

UM, SO STAFF DID ANALYZE RESTAURANTS WITHIN A UM, THOUSAND FOOT SQUARE THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER OF THIS, UH, LOCATION.

AND THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 45 RESTAURANTS IN THAT AREA.

UM, ONLY 12 OF THOSE CLOSE AFTER 11:00 PM AND ONLY ONE OTHER CLOSES AFTER OR AT

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3:00 AM.

UH, STAFF DID NOTICE THIS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT WAS 10 RECIPIENTS.

WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM, UM, ANY OF THOSE RECIPIENTS.

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID HEAR THIS APPLICATION REQUEST AND, UH, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

SEVEN TO ZERO STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE, UM, THE, THE REQUEST AND FINDS THAT IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE PO ADOPTED POLICIES AND DEVELOPMENT SET REGULATIONS.

UM, HOWEVER, IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THIS REQUEST, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND ADDING THE FOLLOWING CONDITION, FUTURE EXPANSION OF BUSINESS OPERATIONS TO INCLUDE ONSITE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL REQUIRES APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

AND I DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF, UH, INSOMNIA COOKIES HERE TONIGHT THAT CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL.

COREY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR COREY? NO.

HAVE THEY GOT THE FINITE TRAP YET? I, I WENT LAST WEEK AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE FINITE TRAP , BUT THE COOKIES ARE VERY GOOD.

TRY TO MAKE A MOTION ALREADY.

UH, LAST WEEK WE HAD TO OUR LA OUR LAST MEETING, WE HAD A BUSINESS COME BEFORE US AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION AND LIMITED THEIR CLOSING TIME AT 2:00 AM MM-HMM .

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN HERE AS WELL.

I, I, UH, AND THAT WOULD BE A, UH, UH, AMENDMENT THAT I WOULD MAKE ANY MOTION THAT WOULD BE MADE ON THIS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY WOULD BE OKAY WITH A 2:00 AM CLOSING TIME ON THAT FRIDAY AND SATURDAY RATHER THAN A 3:00 AM WOULD YOU LIKE THE APPLICANT TO COME UP NOW? SURE, THAT'D BE FINE.

WHENEVER THE MAYOR SAYS THEY CAN, THAT'D BE FINE.

HI, I'M EMILY.

I'M LOCATED AT 5 5 7 0 4 SPRING VALLEY ROAD.

I'M THE AREA MANAGER FOR THE DFW AREA.

AND WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION ALREADY? MY QUESTION IS, RATHER THAN 3:00 AM WOULD YOU BE ACCEPTABLE TO 2:00 AM ON YOUR, WHAT, WHAT WAS IT? FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT CLOSING TIMES? I WOULD THURSDAY ALSO, I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I THINK WE WOULD TAKE THAT INSTEAD.

LIKE IF THAT WAS THE OPTION WE WERE GIVEN, WE WOULD TAKE THAT RATHER THAN 11.

I AM SURE GLAD YOU'RE HERE, AND I ECHO THE SENTIMENT OF YOUR COOKIES ARE FABULOUS, SO THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

WE'RE, I'M JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT NEW BUSINESSES BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE THE WHOLE THING AT 2:00 AM SO RATHER THAN HAVE TO COME BACK LATER TO YOU AND TELL YOU THAT, I'D JUST LIKE TO PUT IT OUT IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW, THAT 2:00 AM WOULD BE MY DROP DEAD LATEST TIME ON THAT, SO.

GOTCHA.

SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT AS AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR PROPOSAL HERE, I WOULD BE ALL IN FAVOR OF IT.

LIKE I SAID, I WOULD HAVE TO ASK, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT, UM, LIKE SPECIFICATIONS FOR EVERYTHING.

YEAH, NO, THAT'S OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU RANDY.

UH, DARREN, SO, UH, ARE YOU OPERATING NOW? YES.

UM, SO IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING.

I, I LOOKED YOU GUYS UP, UH, AND, AND WATCHED THE, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING YOUR BUSINESS MODEL AND YOUR, YOUR TARGET CUSTOMER EATS COOKIES LATE AT NIGHT.

OH YEAH.

AND I'M LIKE, WOW, THAT'S PRETTY COOL AND REALLY INTERESTING.

IT'S A, IT'S A YOUNG POPULATION OR COLLEGE STUDENTS AND, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF THE YOUNG POPULATION AROUND HERE.

UH, I WOULD BE A PRO OPPOSED TO LIMITING THEM IN THEIR BUSINESS MODEL.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF THEIR, THEIR OPERATION.

SO I JUST DO WANT THE APPLICANT TO KNOW THAT I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

SO YOU'RE ALREADY OPEN AND, AND RUNNING YES.

TILL WHATEVER, 11:00 PM 11:00 PM OKAY.

I HAVE A CRAVING FOR SOMETHING SWEET, IT'S ALWAYS AT LIKE MIDNIGHT AND EVERYWHERE'S CLOSED.

THANK, THANK YOU DARREN.

AND JUST TO THAT, TO THAT POINT, I MEAN, I, I SEE PART OF THEIR, UH, TARGET AUDIENCE WOULD BE THE, UH, THE RESTAURANT EMPLOYEES ONCE THEY, WHEN THEY GET OFF WORK AT TWO, ONE LITTLE SNACK ON THE WAY HOME AND, AND THE BAR PEOPLE GOING HOME AFTER THE BAR .

UH, I THINK WE HAVE, UH, MARLON.

HEY, EMILY, CAN YOU, CAN, I'VE, I HAVE NOT BEEN IN YOUR ESTABLISHMENT YET, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO, TO SEEING IT, BUT CAN YOU KIND OF TALK US THROUGH, UM, LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON, ON THE IMPORTANCE, UM, OF BEING OPEN TO ONE? SO YEAH, LIKE 1:00 AM SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY, SO WE REALLY JUST, IT'S JUST COOKIES, ICE CREAM, MILK, GOT, YOU KNOW, YOUR COOKIES AND MILK.

OUR MAIN DEMOGRAPHIC IS MAINLY COLLEGE STUDENTS.

THAT'S WHAT IT STARTED WITH ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES.

AND THEN WE'VE EXPANDED INTO CITIES AND SUBURBS AND WE STILL HAVE THAT MAIN DEMOGRAPHIC OF COLLEGE STUDENTS, BUT IT REALLY IS JUST ANYBODY THAT HAPPENS TO BE UP REALLY.

WE USUALLY DON'T EVEN GET BUSY UNTIL 10:00 PM IN MOST LOCATIONS.

UM, AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH JUST FOR ANYBODY THAT'S CRAVING A SWEET TREAT IN THE LATE NIGHT HOURS.

I FEEL LIKE FOR ME, ANYTIME

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AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE OPTION THAT WE GIVE PEOPLE.

AND, AND I GUESS, IS THAT THE SAME THOUGHT FOR NOW? FIRST OF ALL, I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON THURSDAY.

UM, ARE YOU, ARE YOU LOOKING TO, TO BE OPEN TILL 3:00 AM ON THURSDAY? YES.

THE REASONING BEHIND THAT IS THAT A LOT, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE MAINLY COLLEGE STUDENTS.

A LOT OF STUDENTS ARE OUT OF SCHOOL ON FRIDAY, SO THURSDAY IS THERE FRIDAY.

SO WE DO GET THAT BUSINESS ON THURSDAY NIGHT AS WELL.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

CHRIS, EMILY, YOUR OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE DFW AREA, WHAT TIME ARE THEY OPEN TILL CURRENTLY? UM, MOST OF THEM ARE OPEN UNTIL THAT 1:00 AM 3:00 AM WE HAVE A COUPLE THAT ARE LOCATED ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES THAT CUT THEIR HOURS BACK BY ONE HOUR JUST BECAUSE ALL THE STUDENTS WENT HOME AND THEIR BUSINESS DROPS BY LIKE 30, 40% IN THE SUMMER.

SO ONCE SCHOOL PICKS BACK UP HERE IN ABOUT A MONTH, THEY WILL RETURN TO THAT 1:00 AM 3:00 AM SCHEDULE 1:00 AM 3:00 AM MEANING 1:00 AM EXCEPT FOR THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY? YES.

AND I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 3:00 AM THE, UM, THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA DESERVED HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF QUIET NON RUSTING TIME.

I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ENTIRE CENTER AT 2:00 AM NOTHING AGAINST THIS, THIS ONE BUSINESS FOR THE SAME REASON THAT AT THE LAST MEETING I BROUGHT UP 2:00 AM AND WE APPROVED THAT FOR THAT BUSINESS.

I JUST THINK THAT SHOULD BE A STANDARD THAT WE SET FORWARD.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

DID YOU HAVE OTHER COMMENTS, RANDY, OR THAT WAS THAT, UM, I HAVE, I HAVE ALSO, WHAT IS THE NEXT CLOSEST STORE YOU HAVE? UM, WE HAVE ONE IN DOWNTOWN ON GREENVILLE.

WE HAVE A VICTORY PARK DEEP EL AND THEN WE HAVE ONE UP IN RICHARDSON.

I HAD LOOKED THEM UP AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE CLOSING TIMES ARE NOT LISTED AS 3:00 AM EITHER, THEY WERE LISTED AT, AT A EARLIER CLOSING TIME AS WELL, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

THEY, THEY SHOULD BE AT 3:00 AM IF IF THEIR GOOGLE CALENDAR IS WRONG, WE CAN UPDATE THAT.

VERY GOOD.

UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO YOU CAN GO AND HAVE A SEAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU FOR TAKING OUR QUESTIONS.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNSEL ON THIS ITEM? PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE B WITH THE, UH, STATUS RECOMMENDED CONDITION OF FUTURE EXPANSION OF BUSINESS OPERATIONS TO INCLUDE ONSITE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION, REQUIRES A SEPARATE SPECIAL APPROVAL, SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

THANK YOU DARREN.

AND I SECOND THAT MOTION, I SECOND FROM SCHNELL.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT ON THAT TO, TO AMEND THAT MOTION TO A 2:00 AM CLOSING TIME.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

SO WE'LL VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT FIRST.

UH, THE AMENDMENT IS TO AMEND THE, UH, ORIGINAL MOTION TO A 2:00 AM CLOSING TIME.

ANY, UH, DISCUSSION ON THAT? UH, MAYOR, UH, THE ONLY DISCUSSION I'D ADD IS, IS, IS IN THAT CENTER.

I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT'S OPEN TILL THREE IS, IS, UH, UH, THE PIZZA, PIZZA PLACE.

AND IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT DINE IN, IT'S JUST, UM, DELIVERY OR YOU CAN PICK IT UP AT THE WINDOW.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER PLACE THAT'S OPEN BEYOND TWO.

AND I'D LOVE TO KIND OF SEE EVERYTHING KIND OF CLOSED DOWN AT, AT 2:00 PM OR 2:00 AM YEAH.

DO I NEED TO AMEND MY AMENDMENT TO SAY THE DATES OF THE 2:00 AM OR JUST, CAN I JUST SAY THE LATEST CLOSE? I DON'T CARE IF THEY'RE OPEN EVERY NIGHT TILL 2:00 AM JUST 2:00 AM NEEDS TO BE THE LATEST.

SO, OR THE, I THINK THAT'S CLEAR ENOUGH IN YOUR, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I JUST, UM, WANNA CLARIFY THE MOTION.

SO IF WE VOTE YAY, THEN WE WOULD BE SUPPORTING THE, THE 2:00 AM THE 2:00 AM WE VOTE NAY, THEN WE WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTING THE TWO.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THEN WE WOULD GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION AND VOTE ON IT.

AND, AND, AND THE WAY I SEE THIS IS THAT, UH, I THINK PART OF THAT TARGET AUDIENCE IS THE, THE, THE FOLKS AFTER, AFTER THE OTHER RESTAURANTS AND BARS HAVE CLOSED, UH, AND THOSE EMPLOYEES FROM THOSE PLACES, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO STOP OFF.

AND I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, PEOPLE ARE NOT GONNA SIT AROUND AND EAT A BUNCH.

THEY'LL PROBABLY GET 'EM AND TAKE 'EM ON THE, IN THE CAR, GO HOME.

UM, BUT SO I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE 3:00 AM MYSELF.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? ON THE AMEN? THIS IS ON THE AMENDMENT FOR THE 2:00 AM LIMITATION.

ALRIGHT, ALL ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

THE THREE IN FAVOR OPPOSED FOR OPPOSED? ALL THE AMENDMENT DOES NOT PASS.

NOW WE'LL VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION AND, UH, THAT WAS AS SUBMITTED WITH THE, UH, CONDITION FROM STAFF FROM DARREN AND SECONDED BY CHANEL.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

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OPPOSED? AYE.

THOSE THREE? THREE OPPOSED? OKAY, SO THAT ITEM IS APPROVED.

ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO SIX A PRESENT DISCUSS IN CONSIDERATION ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TOWN'S ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026 TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE ADDITION OF ONE POLICE OFFICER AND LEGAL SERVICES OFFSET BY SALES TAX DEBT DEFUNDING COST OFFSET BY NEW BOND PROCEEDS.

ITEM FIVE B IS APPROVED.

[6.a. Present, discuss, and consider action on an Ordinance amending the Town’s Annual Budget for the Fiscal Year Ending September 30, 2026, to provide funding for the addition of one police officer and legal services offset by sales tax, debt refunding cost offset by new bond proceeds, Addison Junction infrastructure design, transfers from the Airport Fund, motor vehicle barriers and LPR camera systems with offsetting grant revenue, replacement of a total loss vehicle covered by insurance and a new crane truck, and prior year encumbrances.]

ADDISON JUNCTION INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN TRANSFERRED FROM THE AIRPORT FUND, MOTOR VEHICLE BARRIERS AND LPR CAMERA SYSTEMS WITH OFFSETTING GRANT REVENUE REPLACEMENT OF A TOTAL LOSS VEHICLE COVERED BY INSURANCE AND A NEW CRANE TRUCK AND PRIOR YEAR ENCUMBRANCES, STEVEN.

GREAT.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

AND THIS EVENING WE HAVE, UH, OUR MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT.

UM, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY THE THIRD BUDGET AMENDMENT WE'VE DONE THIS YEAR.

USUALLY THIS MID-YEAR.

ONE IS OUR FIRST, UM, BUT JUST A REMINDER OF WHAT OUR BUDGET AMENDMENT PROCESS IS.

UH, REGULAR AMENDMENTS ARE, ARE AN ACCEPTED PRACTICE.

IT JUST MEANS THAT WE'RE MONITORING AND MANAGING OUR FISCAL AFFAIRS.

THEY HELP MITIGATE CHANGES, UH, IN CIRCUMSTANCES AND THEY'RE TRANSPARENT.

UH, SO THE TOWN'S BUDGET AMENDMENT PROCESS IS THAT TRANSFERS BETWEEN ACCOUNTS AND, UH, WITHIN A DEPARTMENT CAN BE APPROVED BY THE CFO, UH, TRANSFERS BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS, UH, WITH A, A CHANGE OF LESS THAN 5%, UH, CAN BE APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER.

AND THEN TRANSFERS BETWEEN FUNDS ARE MORE THAN 5% CAN BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND, UH, THIS BEING OUR MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENTS, ONE OF THE TERMS THAT YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE IN THIS PRESENTATION, UH, IS PRIOR YEAR ENCUMBRANCES AND WHAT A PRIOR YEAR ENCUMBRANCE IS.

BASICALLY IF WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT WAS BUDGETED IN A PRIOR YEAR, UH, FOR INSTANCE, UH, THE BUILDING WE'RE IN, WE BUDGETED, UH, THIS WHOLE RENOVATION OF THE, UH, NEW, UH, TOWN HALL AND THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR.

UH, IT WASN'T ACTUALLY COMPLETED UNTIL THIS FISCAL YEAR.

OBVIOUSLY THE PROJECT DOESN'T STOP JUST BECAUSE WE CHANGED FISCAL YEARS.

SO WHAT WE DO IS, UH, THAT MONEY WAS BUDGET IN THE PRIOR YEAR.

WE MOVED THAT FUNDING, UH, TO THE CURRENT YEAR.

SO YOU'LL SEE SEVERAL OF THOSE INSTANCES WITHIN THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT.

UH, SO MOVING ON TO OUR GENERAL FUND.

UM, SO, AND I WILL HAVE, UH, POLICE CHIEF FREEZE COME UP AND GIVE SOME MORE DETAIL ABOUT, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, ITEM.

AND THEN I'LL HAVE, UH, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER SCHROER COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE COMBINED SERVICES, UH, LEGAL, UM, LEGAL SERVICE, UH, REQUEST.

UH, BUT BASICALLY WE'VE GOT TWO ITEMS IN THE GENERAL FUND.

UH, ONE IS FOR THE ADDITION OF ONE MOTORCYCLE OFFICER TO INCREASE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, RESPOND TO AND INVESTIGATE MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS AND INCREASE DWI ENFORCEMENT.

UH, THAT'S A COST OF $100,000.

UH, AND THEN IN OUR COMBINED SERVICES, WHICH IS WHERE, UH, OUR LEGAL SERVICES ARE HOUSED, UH, FOR THE ENTIRE GENERAL FUND, UH, INCREASED LEGAL SERVICES DUE TO SIGNIFICANT AND SUSTAINED INCREASE IN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST RESPONSES OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, UH, THAT IS $250,000.

UH, THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE GENERAL FUND IS PROPOSED TO BE OFFSET, UH, BY SALES TAX REVENUE OF $350,000 IS, UH, THAT REVENUE SOURCE IS PERFORMED ABOVE OUR EXPECTATIONS, UH, THIS FISCAL YEAR.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO CHIEF FREEZE TO GO OVER HIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, SIR.

RIGHT NOW WE CURRENTLY HAVE A TWO MAN MOTOR UNIT.

CHRIS FREEZE, CHIEF OF POLICE.

UM, JUST WANNA GIVE SOME BACKSTORY OF WHY WE'RE REQUESTING THIS ADDITIONAL POSITION TO EXPAND OUR MOTOR UNIT.

UH, MAN ADDISON, WE TAKE A PROACTIVE APPROACH TO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT WHILE ALL OF OUR PATROL OFFICERS DO ENFORCE TRAFFIC OFFENSES, ESPECIALLY AS THEY ON VIEW 'EM, OUR MOTOR UNIT REALLY DIVES INTO, IN INTE INTELLIGENCE AND, UH, RESEARCH TO LOOK AT HOTSPOTS AROUND THE TOWN VIA, UH, EITHER CRASH LOCATIONS, UM, DATA DRIVEN APPROACHES.

AND HONESTLY, A LOT OF, UH, CITIZEN LED TIPS OF WHERE THERE'S EITHER SPEEDING COMPLAINTS OR THERE'S BEEN A HIGH, UM, INSTANCES OF, OF ACCIDENTS OF CERTAIN INTERSECTION TO DRIVE THEIR RESPONSE THERE.

UM, SOME OF THE MAJOR HOTSPOTS THAT WE HEAR, UM, FROM OUR CITIZENS THAT WE, UM, ADDRESS REGULARLY ARE SCHOOL ZONES, UM, ALONG ADDISON ROAD AND THE SOJOURN, UM, SPRING VALLEY AND VITRUVIAN.

AND NOW THE ADDED SCHOOL ZONE, UH, ALONG MONFORT, UM, ARE STOP SIGN ENFORCEMENT, UM, IN MIDWAY MEADOWS AND ALL THROUGH ADDISON CIRCLE, UM, ARE SPEEDING, UM, HOTSPOTS WHERE WE GET A LOT OF, UM, INTEREST FROM OUR CITIZENS CALLING IN, UM, ALONG MONTFORT, UM, WHEELER BRIDGE, ALONG BELTWAY, THE TOLL TUNNEL, MIDWAY MEADOWS AND ADDISON CIRCLE.

UM, THAT COUPLED WITH OUR DATA-DRIVEN APPROACHES TO THE OVERLAY OF WHERE OUR MAJOR INTERSECTION, OUR MAJOR CRASHES ARE, UM, MARSH LANE, ARAPAHOE AND SURVEYOR INTERSECTIONS, KELLER SPRINGS AND QUORUM, ADDISON ROAD AND EXCEL, BELTLINE AND MIDWAY AND BELTLINE AND ADDISON.

SO ALL OF THAT COUPLED

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UM, WE'RE REQUESTING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL UNIT TO THAT, SO ADDITIONAL PERSON, UM, TO HELP KIND OF ALLOW US TO INCREASE OUR ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS AND THEN ULTIMATELY REDUCE OUR CRASHES AS WE'VE DONE YEAR OVER YEAR FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.

SO THAT'S THE BACKSTORY ON THIS ADDITIONAL QUEST FOR THAT, UM, ADDITIONAL POSITION.

CAN WE ASK QUESTIONS AS WE GO? SURE.

SO, UM, WHEN YOU SAY MOTOR, DOES THAT MEAN MOTORCYCLE? YES.

YEAH, SO THOSE, WHEN OUR MOTOR OFFICERS, UM, WEATHER'S NICE OR ON THEIR MOTORCYCLES, UM, THEY ALSO GET IN A CAR IF THERE'S INCLEMENT WEATHER.

UH, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY TO TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS, UM, SPEEDING COMPLAINTS.

THEY'RE NOT BEHOLDEN TO THE 9 1 1 CALLS SPECIFICALLY FOR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS.

SO IS THAT 100,000, UH, ALL IN NUMBER OR IS THERE ADDITIONAL SO THAT WE ACTUALLY, WE ALREADY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, UM, WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL, UM, UH, MOTORCYCLE, EVERYTHING, THIS IS JUST FOR THAT PERSON TO FILL THAT SPOT.

SO WHAT'S THE ONGOING COST OF THAT THAT'S GONNA ADD TO A RECURRING HEADCOUNT? YEAH, SO THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL FDE GOING FORWARD IN THE BUDGET.

BUT FOR THIS MIDYEAR, IT'S JUST THE, UM, UH, PRORATED, UH, SALARY FOR THAT POSITION.

WHAT WOULD THAT BE FOR THE WHOLE YEAR? THE, THE COST FOR THAT POSITION WITH THE WHOLE YEAR IT WAS STEVEN WITH SALARY AND BENEFITS.

UH, IT'S ABOUT, UH, APPROXIMATELY 150,000.

UM, AND DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFITS THAT THEY CHOOSE, BUT THAT WOULD BE SUCCESSFULLY BURDENED.

THANKS.

OKAY, YOU WANNA GO AND CONTINUE THE PRESENTATION? I'LL PASS IT ON TO ASHLEY FOR OPEN RECORDS.

ASHLEY SCHROER, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE OPEN RECORDS TONIGHT.

UH, NOT TRANSIT, BUT OPEN RECORDS WILL CHANGE.

UM, SO AS YOU CAN TELL, WE HAVE HAD AN UPTICK IN OUR OPEN RECORDS.

IF YOU LOOK IN THE FIVE MONTHS OF THIS YEAR, WE ARE ACTUALLY, UM, ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT WE HAVE SPENT IN THE ENTIRE TIME OF 2025.

UH, SOMETHING TO NOTE WITH OPEN RECORDS, WE ARE LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN CHARGE.

SO THE TEXAS PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT AND THE STATE SETS OUT WHAT WE CAN CHARGE FOR OPEN RECORDS SO WE CAN RECOVER STAFF TIME TO REVIEW, BUT WE CANNOT COVER LEGAL FEES, LEGAL REVIEW, OR ANY SOFTWARE THAT WE PURCHASE.

UM, THAT HELPS US GO THROUGH THESE RECORDS.

SO IN 2026, WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT CALENDAR YEAR $134,000.

UM, WE HAVE SPENT ABOUT 156 HOURS IN LEGAL TIME.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT 2025, A TYPICAL, THAT WAS KIND OF A TYPICAL YEAR OF OPEN RECORDS.

WE TYPICALLY SPENT JUST OVER 67,000, WHICH AVERAGED OUT TO ABOUT $5,600 A MONTH.

UM, 522 HOURS OF STAFF TIME, LEGAL STAFF HOURS, WHICH IS ABOUT 40, A LITTLE OVER 40 HOURS A MONTH IN LEGAL REVIEW.

SO GOING YEAR TO DATE, WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT OVER 134,000.

WE HAVE SPENT 782 HOURS IN LEGAL, UH, STAFF HOURS.

AND IF YOU LOOK IT ALSO, WE HAVE ACTUALLY SPENT MORE IN OPEN RECORDS HOURS THAN WE HAVE SPENT IN OUR GENERAL, UH, LEGAL HOURS.

UM, JUST TO SHOW AGAIN ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

IN 2005 WE SPENT ABOUT, OR 2025, WE SPEND ABOUT $5,600 A MONTH.

WE'RE AVERAGING $26,000 A MONTH.

UM, I WANT TO POINT OUT, AND THE REASON I'M POINTING OUT THAT IT'S TWO REQUESTERS IS WE WANT TO LOOK AT THIS INFORMATION, UH, HOLISTICALLY TO FIND OUT DO WE NEED TO, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S JUST KIND OF A BLIP ON THE RADAR? IS THIS SOMETHING WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT ADDING STAFF? UM, SOME CITIES HAVE OPEN RECORDS CLERKS, THEY GO IN, THEY DO A LOT OF THE UPFRONT WORK.

THEY CAN REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS, THEY CAN PULL OUT THE INFORMATION THAT THEY KNOW HAS TO BE REDACTED, THEY CAN GET THAT FULLY READY TO GO TO LEGAL, WHICH BRINGS DOWN THE LEGAL NUMBER.

STAFF REVIEW IS ACTUALLY ABLE TO BE RECOUPED THROUGH THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT.

UM, IT'S RECOUPED AT $15 AN HOUR, AND THEN WE CAN CHARGE AN OVERHEAD ON TOP OF THAT.

AND SO IT REALLY BRINGS DOWN THE LEGAL AMOUNT BECAUSE WE SIT DOWN AND, AND SPEND THE TIME TO DO THAT WITH ONE PERSON.

THEY OBVIOUSLY, WITH THAT AMOUNT, CAN'T DO THAT ALL BY THEMSELVES.

SO THE TWO REQUESTS, THE TWO BIG REQUESTERS.

RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE DONE OVER 220 HOURS WITH JUST THOSE TWO ALONE, AND THAT WAS

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OVER MARCH AND APRIL.

SO AGAIN, CHAPTER 5, 5 2 SETS OUT WHAT WE CAN CHARGE SO WE CAN CHARGE FOR TOWN STAFF TO REVIEW.

WE CANNOT RECOUP THE MONEY THAT WE SPEND WITH LEGAL TO REVIEW.

THERE'S ALSO THE OPTION TO DO AN OVERHEAD.

SO YOU CAN CHARGE THE $15 AN HOUR, AND THEN IT'S A 20% OVERHEAD THAT YOU CAN CHARGE ON TOP OF THAT CANNOT RECOUP ATTORNEY FEES, ANY THIRD PARTY FEES.

UM, NICOLE AND HER TEAM ACTUALLY SUGGESTED A THIRD PARTY COMPANY THAT WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW CALLED E-DISCOVERY.

UM, IT'S NOT A TYPICAL SOFTWARE THAT'S USED FOR, UM, OPEN RECORDS, BUT IT'S USED FOR DISCOVERY AND WE FOUND THAT IT'S BEEN HELPFUL.

SO WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED THAT.

UM, AND WE ALSO CAN'T RECOUP ANY LIKE IT TIME, SO IT, WHEN THEY HAVE TO BUILD THE CODE, I'M TALKING OUTSIDE OF MY REALM HERE, BUT WHEN THEY DO THE IT THING TO GET ALL OF THAT INFORMATION, WE CAN'T, UH, BILL FOR THAT.

SO I WILL SAY OVER MANY CITIES THERE IS A TREND IN HIGHER, UH, OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS.

IT'S VERY EASY TO GO INTO AI AND PUT IN WHAT IT IS YOU'RE WANTING AND IT CAN WRITE YOU A REQUEST.

SO WE ARE SEEING AN UPTICK IN ADDITION TO HAVING SOME JUST HIGH REQUESTS HERE LATELY.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING THOUGH, TO TRY TO MAINTAIN COST, UM, VALENCIA IS PUTTING TOGETHER A PROGRAM THAT WE CALL, UH, SUPER PUBLIC INFORMATION.

SO INFORMATION THAT WE KNOW PEOPLE REQUEST ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

YOU HAVE CONTRACTORS THAT EVERY MONTH SEND IN A REQUEST THAT SAYS, WE WANNA KNOW EVERYBODY THAT'S PULLED A FENCE PERMIT.

WE WANNA KNOW EVERYBODY THAT'S PULLED A POOL PERMIT OR A ROOFING PERMIT.

AND THEY BASICALLY USE THAT TO GO OUT AND SOLICIT THAT IS INFORMATION WE ARE WORKING JUST TO PUT ON THE WEBSITE SO IT'S READILY AVAILABLE WHEN SOMEBODY CALLS IN AND REQUESTS IT.

WE CAN SAY IT'S RIGHT HERE ON THE WEBSITE.

THAT KIND OF, UM, IN THOSE CASES, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, WE CAN JUST POINT 'EM TO WHERE THE INFORMATION IS.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUT AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN OUT AND READILY ACCESSIBLE TO CUT DOWN ON THOSE.

AND THEN AGAIN, YOU USING THE CLOUD-BASED E-DISCOVERY SOFTWARE TO HELP LIMIT THE TIME.

AND NICOLE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

SO ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTION, QUESTIONS ON THE OPEN RECORDS.

UM, BEN, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

SO THERE'S A TERM IN, UM, IN THE INTERNET WORLD CALLED TROLLING.

SO WOULD YOU SAY THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THIS OPEN INFORMATION, ARE THEY TROLLING AND THEY'RE COMING UP WITH LEGAL ACTIONS, WHEREAS WE'RE GONNA BE IN LAWSUITS OR STAFF'S GONNA BE IN LAWSUITS OR COUNSEL IN LAWSUITS? NO.

UM, IN A LOT OF CA AGAIN, IT'S SOLICITATION, YOU KNOW, UH, AGAIN, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF IN THE SUPER PUBLIC IS SOLICITATIONS.

SO THERE'S THOSE, UM, YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE WHO THEY, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE A, CAUSE THEY HAVE SOMETHING THEY'RE LOOKING FOR OR THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET INFORMATION ON.

UM, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT, UM, ALSO HAS, UH, I NEVER SAY THIS RIGHT, VEXATIOUS, VEXATIOUS, REQUESTERS.

AND SO IF SOMEBODY SENDS IN A REQUEST, THEY ASK FOR SOMETHING, WE TELL THEM WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, EITHER HERE'S THE RECORD OR WE DON'T HAVE THAT, WE ANSWER THAT AND THEY JUST KEEP COMING AT US, THEN WE CAN SAY WE'RE NOT DOING THAT ANYMORE.

UM, AND AGAIN, NICOLE CAN GO INTO THOSE, BUT, UM, MOST OF THE TIME IT'S JUST PEOPLE WANT INFORMATION.

SO THE EXAMPLE I CAN GIVE IS, UM, ATTENDANCE.

SO, UH, I HAD RECEIVED AN EMAIL ABOUT MY ATTENDANCE IN PERSON VERSUS ONLINE AT WHICH IT'S IN THE TOWN CHARTER.

YOU'RE ALLOWED TO USE ZOOM AS AN ACTION OF RESPONSIBILITY TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS.

AND WITH MY BUSINESS AND OR MY ILLNESS LAST YEAR, UM, THAT CAME DELIGHT I HAD, I HAD TO RESPOND BACK TO THAT PERSON REQUESTING.

AND THEY, UM, ASSUMING WE'RE LOOKING FOR OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS, DO THEY KNOW THE COST AND TOTALITY WHEN THEY'RE ASKING SUCH A QUESTION? SO, UH, SO LET ME GIVE A LITTLE, UH, BACKGROUND ON OPEN RECORDS.

WE ONLY HAVE TO PRODUCE RECORDS THAT WE HAVE.

SO IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAYS, I WANT AN ATTENDANCE RECORD FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS OF COUNCIL MEETINGS, WHO WAS IN PERSON WHO WAS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT RECORD.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CREATE ONE, WE DON'T HAVE TO RUN A REPORT FOR THAT.

SO THE ANSWER IS WE DON'T, THAT'S NOT

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A RECORD THAT WE HAVE.

UM, WE DO GIVE AN INVOICE.

IF IT'S OVER $50, I THINK 40, THEN WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, A CHANCE TO SAY, YES, THEY WANT IT, THEY DON'T WANT IT.

THE PROBLEM IS NOW, SO I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR JUST A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, STARTED IN THE CITY SECRETARY WORLD, WHEN OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS CAME IN, YOU LITERALLY HAD TO GO AND PULL PAPER AND SPEND STAFF TIME DOING THAT.

IT'S A LOT MORE ELECTRONIC, SO THERE'S A LOT LESS WE CAN CHARGE FOR.

SO IN THE PAST, IF I HAD TO GO THROUGH AND STAND AT AN ORDINANCE BOOK AND SEARCH FOR ORDINANCES, I COULD CHARGE FOR MY STAFF TIME.

NOW IT'S SOMEBODY JUST PUTS IN EMAILS, YOU KNOW, REGARDING BLUE SHOES AND IF NOTHING COMES BACK, YOU'RE DONE.

SO THERE'S JUST A LOT LESS YOU CAN CHARGE FOR, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT GOES BACK AND, AND SOMETHING LIKE LEGAL HAS TO REVIEW.

SO THE REAL COSTS START TO BE INCURRED WHEN OUR, OUR LAWYERS ARE INVOLVED, WHEN THE LAWYERS ARE INVOLVED, OR ONCE WE GET THE DOCUMENTS BACK IF THEY NEED TO BE REVIEWED.

SO WHEN WE START GETTING, LET'S SAY WE, WE GO THROUGH AND, UM, WE HAVE 5,000 EMAILS THAT MENTION BLUE SHOES.

SOMEBODY HAS TO SIT AND LOOK AT THAT AND SEE, OKAY, WELL IN THAT CHAIN OF EMAILS WHERE 14 PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT BLUE SHOES, IS THERE SOMEBODY'S EMAIL THAT NEEDS TO BE REDACTED? IS THERE CONFIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION IN THERE? IS THERE SOMETHING REGARDING A CONTRACT THAT NEEDS TO BE REDACTED? THAT'S WHEN THAT STARTS HAPPENING AT THIS CURRENT TIME, WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF CAPACITY FOR THAT.

AND SO A LOT OF THAT DOES GO TO LEGAL TO BE REVIEWED.

SO THEN WHETHER YOU'RE A CITIZEN OF ADDISON OR NOT DOESN'T WARRANT WHAT YOU CAN ASK FOR OR THE DEPTH OF QUESTION.

CORRECT.

ANYBODY ANYWHERE CAN ASK FOR ANYTHING.

SO RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS WOULD UNDERSTAND THEY'RE STARTING TO COST THE CITY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS POTENTIALLY AT THE RATE WE'RE SEEING THE INCREASES FROM A FEW PEOPLE.

WE HAVE TWO HIGH REQUESTERS, BUT OVERALL OUR REQUESTS ARE, ARE GOING UP.

BUT DO THEY UNDERSTAND THE COST? ARE THEY JUST REQUESTING TO REQUEST, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE TROLLING FOR INFORMATION, BUT YET IT'S NOT TURNING INTO LAWSUITS.

IT'S NOT CAUSING ANY LEGAL LITIGATION AGAINST COUNSEL.

BUT THEY'RE JUST TROLLING FOR INFORMATION TO SPIN THE WHEELS.

I DON'T WANNA, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME WHAT THEIR INTENT IS OR WHAT THEY KNOW OR UNDERSTAND.

THEY, WE GIVE THEM AN INVOICE OF WHAT WE CAN CHARGE.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE, THAT THAT'S ALL WE KNOW.

SO UNLESS THEY'RE WATCHING TONIGHT, THEY WOULDN'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE JUST SPENT, THEY'VE SPENT TOWN RESOURCES ON ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.

THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

THEY DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT, THE TOTALITY.

THEY THINK THEY GET SOMETHING FROM US.

THE SEVERITY AND THE TOTALITY OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING, THEY HAVE NO IDEA THE DEPTH OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS BEING SPENT.

CORRECT.

RANDY, I THINK I SKIPPED OVER YOU.

UM, TO ADDRESS YOUR LAST COMMENT, I'LL BEGIN WITH THAT.

YOU'RE BEING VERY NICE AND YOU'RE BEING VERY DIPLOMATIC.

I DON'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY.

I'M GONNA CALL 'EM FISHING EXPEDITIONS.

TO DAN'S POINT, THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT CARING WHAT THEY COST THE TOWN.

JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO SOMETHING DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT.

I'LL MAKE THAT STATEMENT STRAIGHT, STRAIGHT OUT.

UM, SLIDE 10 PLEASE.

WHAT WAS 10 FOR SOME REASON MY, WELL I'LL I'LL SUMMARIZE WHAT YOUR SLIDE 10 SAID.

AND YOU REFERRED TO IT A COUPLE OF TIMES.

YOU SAID THERE'S TWO MAIN USERS.

REQUESTERS.

WASN'T TO CALL OUT THE FOLKS WHO ARE DOING IT.

WHO ARE THOSE? I, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY NOT COMFORTABLE OR I DON'T REALLY THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO NAME NAMES AT THE DAIS AND SIT HERE.

I THINK THE REASON WE ARE IDENTIFYING AND TRYING TO SAY THERE'S TOO HEAVY USERS RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE THE DECISIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE ARE DOING, HOW DO WE REACT TO THIS? WE HAVE A, A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.

HOW DO WE REACT TO IT? IF IT'S JUST A COUPLE USERS? I THINK THAT WARRANTS US WAITING A LITTLE BIT AND GETTING MORE INFORMATION BECAUSE IT COULD BE A BLIP, RIGHT? WE COULD JUST HAVE A COUPLE FOLKS WHO ARE VERY INTERESTED IN SOME TOPICS RIGHT NOW AND IT GOES AWAY.

AND I WOULD HATE TO ADD A NEW POSITION AND SOME RECURRING RESOURCES WHEN THERE'S NOT A NEED THERE.

LET'S SAY IT WAS 50 FOLKS WHO WERE ASKING FOR INFORMATION OVER THESE PAST TWO MONTHS THAT WERE CAUSING THE INCREASE.

I THINK IT'D BE MORE JUSTIFIED TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO ADD SOME PHYSICIANS RECURRING RESOURCES.

I THINK BECAUSE IT'S A LIMITED NUMBER, I THINK IT DOES JUSTIFY WAITING A FEW MONTHS AND SEEING HOW IT PLAYS OUT.

SO OUR INTENT OF SAYING, HEY, THERE'S A COUPLE FOLKS THAT ARE DRIVING IT, OR THAT OUR INTENT

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WELL, MY INTENT IS, AND THE I RESPECT YOUR COMMENTS AND THIS IS NOT DIRECTED AT YOU, BUT MINE IS, AND THIS IS PUBLIC TAXPAYER MONEY.

AND IF WE WERE SPENDING $250,000 ON ANYTHING ELSE, WE WOULD BE SAYING WHO WE'VE SPENT THAT MONEY ON.

AND I, I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD, I WAS GONNA ASK FOR THE TWO BECAUSE THAT WAS IN YOURS.

I'D LIKE AN ENTIRE LIST.

I THINK IT, IT IS PUBLIC RIGHT TO KNOW HOW THE TAXPAYER MONEY IS BEING SPENT AND HAVE A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT ARE REQUESTING PUBLIC RECORDS.

THEY WANT THE RECORDS, WE GIVE THEM TO 'EM, WE PAY IT.

BUT THE, THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW WHO'S DOING THAT.

AND I'M ON RECORD NOW REQUESTING A LIST OF THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, UH, WHAT IS OUR PROCEDURE? WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THERE WAS, THERE WAS A LOT OF REALLY COMMON THINGS THAT, THAT WAS IN YOUR, UH, UH, PRESENTATION.

DOES EVERY RECORDS REQUEST CURRENTLY GO TO LEGAL? NO.

SO THINGS, AGAIN, UH, THINGS THAT ARE FAIRLY COMMON, UH, THEN WE CAN PRODUCE THAT INFORMATION PRETTY EASILY.

UM, THINGS LIKE I SAID THAT WE COULD PUT OUT THAT ARE SUPER PUBLIC INFORMATION.

SO IF SOMEBODY REQUESTED A FENCE PERMIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF YOU DOING THAT.

YEAH, THAT IS A GREAT WAY OF DOING THAT.

RIGHT? THOSE FOR THE MOST PART, UNLESS WE HAVE A QUESTION, SOMETHING WEIRD'S ON THERE, THEN NO, IT DOESN'T NEED TO GO TO LEGAL.

AGAIN, IT'S WHEN YOU'RE GETTING INTO, UM, THE VERY DETAILED CUMBERSOME INFORMATION LIKE EMAILS, NO EMAIL IS JUST ONE EMAIL RIGHT THERE.

THERE'S MULTIPLE LAYERS.

SO, AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF THE REQUESTS THAT COME OUT.

I WANT EVERY, UH, EMAIL OR CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN THIS CITY COUNCIL PERSON AND THIS CITIZEN IN TOWN OR BETWEEN THIS CITY COUNCIL PERSON AND THIS CITY COUNCIL PERSON.

SO THAT IS VERY LABOR INTENSIVE FOR YOU TO HAVE TO GO AND, AND FIND THAT TYPE THING.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS, AND AND I MAY HAVE UNDERSTOOD, MISUNDERSTOOD, I THOUGHT WE SENT EVERY PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, NOT EVERYONE, THANK GOD, OR IT HAD BEEN OVER A MILLION DOLLARS APPARENTLY.

UM, WHAT WERE THE, WHAT WERE THE NATURE OF, OF THE INCREASE OF REQUESTS OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS OF THE REQUESTS? MM-HMM .

I MEAN THEY'RE EVERYTHING FROM REQUESTS FOR EMAILS OR MEMOS, DIFFERENT CORRESPONDENCE.

UM, YOU THINK OTHER OUT OF THE ORDINARY OR, YOU KNOW, THAT SOUNDS LIKE NORMAL STUFF THAT WE WOULD'VE HAD IN YEARS PAST, BUT THEY JUST MULTIPLIED THIS TIME.

IS THAT TRUE? OR IS, ARE WE SEEING SOME TYPE OF REQUESTS LATELY THAT ARE MORE INTRUSIVE THAN WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST? I WOULD SAY JUST SOME MORE, MORE LABOR INTENSIVE, UM, AND MORE FREQUENCY.

AND YOU MENTIONED, AND I, AND I, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH WITH YOU, DAVID, TO MONITOR THIS BEFORE WE START ADDING STAFF OR ANYTHING TO GO OVER THIS, BUT IS THERE A WAY IF WE DO GET TO THAT POINT OF MONITORING AND DECIDE TO DO IT, IS THERE A WAY OF, UH, TRAINING ONE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS TO DO THIS AND PAYING THEM 15, $20 AN HOUR, PAY 'EM FOR THEIR TIME ON A PART-TIME BASIS TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE THAT COSTS? SURE.

I MEAN, AGAIN, I THINK LOOKING AT THE INFORM, LOOKING AT THE DATA, SEEING HOW IT PLAYS OUT OVER THIS LENGTH OF TIME, IT MAY NOT NEED TO BE A FULL-TIME POSITION, BUT YOU DO WANT SOMEBODY WHO, UM, WHO IS REALLY UP ON THE OR THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT, HOW THAT WORKS.

THAT GOES INTO TRAINING.

I GET THAT.

AND SO, UM, YOU TYPICALLY WANT SOMEBODY WHO'S GOT A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND IN, IN THAT.

SO IF THE RIGHT VOLUNTEER CAME IN, MAYBE, BUT I AGREE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND SAY IS THIS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANNA WAIT.

BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA PUT A 40 HOUR PERSON IN A POSITION THAT DOES NOT HAVE 40 HOURS WORTH OF WORK TO DO.

NO, I AGREE COMPLETELY.

AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE CAN ONLY RECOUP AT $15 AN HOUR.

WELL, AND THAT'S WHY I'M SUGGESTING SOME KIND OF PART-TIME, BUT IT, BUT IT COULD BE SOMETHING WHERE WE COULD DO SOME SORT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT WARRANTS IT AND IT, THE NUMBERS MAKE SENSE, WE COULD LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, DO WE JUST DO THAT AS A PART-TIME POSITION? OKAY.

HAVE A RIGHT TO DO SOMETHING DOES NOT MEAN IT'S RIGHT CHRIS, IT'S DISAPPOINTING.

UH, ONCE AGAIN, I'M GONNA REITERATE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE REQUEST ON RECORD.

I'D LIKE A LIST OF NAMES THAT HAVE REQUESTED THOSE AND HAVE THAT AS AN ONGOING THING.

AND PERSONALLY I THINK THAT NEEDS TO GO ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL.

UH, I'LL SAY ONE MORE THING AS WELL THAT I SAID AT THE BEGINNING.

JUST BECAUSE YOU

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WE'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY ON OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS THAN WE ARE A POLICE OFFICER.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN STOP THE REQUESTS.

I MEAN, IT'S THEIR RIGHT.

SO YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S NOT AN OPTION EITHER.

THE ONLY QUESTION I REALLY HAVE IS 156 HOURS A MONTH FOR LEGAL.

SO WHEN THAT DOES GO TO LEGAL, I MEAN, ARE WE, ARE WE SENDING THAT TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY? UM, I MEAN ARE WE, ARE WE GETTING BILLED YOUR HOURLY RATE OR ARE WE GETTING, IS THERE A, IS THERE A WAY TO GET BILLED A PARALEGALS RATE? YEAH, SO EACH TIME WE GET A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST FROM YOU GUYS, SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A STAFF MEMBER WHO'S A PARALEGAL WHO IS A MUCH CHEAPER RATE.

AND SHE IS WHOLLY I WAS HOPING YOU'D SAY THAT.

VERY GOOD.

SHE IS WHOLLY DEDICATED TO OPEN RECORDS.

SHE'S AMAZING.

SHE USED TO DO OPEN RECORDS FOR ONE OF OUR OTHER CLIENTS IN THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

SHE'S WELL VERSED.

AND SO SHE IS OUR FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE.

SHE HANDLES ALL OUR OPEN RECORDS.

THE ONLY TIME THAT ATTORNEYS GET INVOLVED ARE THESE HIGH VOLUME REQUESTS.

WHEN YOU'VE GOT, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE FIRST ONES FOR EMAILS CAME BACK WITH 50,000 HITS.

SO I MEAN, WE'RE ABLE TO NARROW THOSE DOWN AND GET 'EM DOWN.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, 20,000 EMAILS THAT HAVE TO BE REVIEWED FOR PRIVILEGE, FOR CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ATTORNEY'S EYES ON IT.

AND YOU KNOW, POOR TIFFANY, SHE JUST CAN'T DO IT HERSELF.

AND SHE DOES A LOT OF THAT REVIEW HERSELF.

BUT WHEN WE GET THOSE, BECAUSE REMEMBER WE'RE IN A, UH, WE HAVE A TIME CLOCK, WE HAVE 10 DAYS.

I SEE.

SO, I MEAN, THERE'S A CRUNCH TIME.

AND SO WHEN THESE STARTED COMING IN, YOU KNOW, MY BACKGROUND'S IN LITIGATION.

WE USE E-DISCOVERY PLATFORMS. AND SO WHAT YOU DO IS YOU DOWNLOAD THE DOCUMENTS AND IT WILL IMMEDIATELY, IT CAN FLAG ITEMS, IT CAN ACTUALLY HAS AN IA PORTION WILL, WHICH IT CAN SAY IF IT'S, UM, EVEN RELEVANT.

IF IT THINKS SOMETHING'S CONFIDENTIAL, IT BATCHES THOSE OUT.

AND THEN WE CAN QUICKLY REVIEW THOSE DOCUMENTS AND JUST CLICK CONFIDENTIAL REDACT.

AND IT MAKES IT SO MUCH FASTER.

UM, AND SO WE FOUND THAT THAT'S HELPED SUBSTANTIALLY TRY TO BRING SOME OF THIS TIME DOWN, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE REQUEST.

WHEN DID WE IMPLEMENT THAT? HUH? WHEN DID WE IMPLEMENT THAT? PROBABLY, I WANNA SAY APRIL.

'CAUSE WHEN MARCH THEY STARTED COMING IN AND I WAS, I STARTED, YOU KNOW, GETTING BROUGHT INTO THE CONVERSATION AND WE WERE LIKE, WE, WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

'CAUSE WE WERE USING ADOBE AND I MEAN, THAT JUST TAKES FOREVER, RIGHT? AND IT'S FINE IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, A FEW HUNDRED DOCUMENTS, BUT NOT 50,000 EMAILS.

SO WE'RE STARTING TO LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY.

ABSOLUTELY.

THOSE FEES COME DOWN.

YEP.

UM, AND IT WAS A VOLATILE TIME FOR OUR TOWN.

I MEAN, WE HAD A, WE HAD AN ELECTION, SO HOPEFULLY SOME OF THOSE REQUESTS WILL GO DOWN TOO.

THANK YOU DAN.

YEAH, I I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW, 'CAUSE AGAIN, I'M READING THE NUMBERS HERE IN THE MATH DOESN'T, DOESN'T ADD UP WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING A POLICE OFFICER.

SO FROM A FIRST RESPONDER TO LEGAL FEES, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SORT OF AGREE WITH RANDY AND, AND ASK FOR THAT INFORMATION TO BE MADE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU, MARLON.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, ASHLEY, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE GOT THE TOUGH AGENDA ITEMS. AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS? HEY, IT'S OKAY.

APPRECIATE YOU DOING THIS.

UM, SO IT, IT SEEMS, UM, LIKE WE'VE, I'M JUST GONNA FOCUS IN ON, ON THE TWO, THE TWO, UH, THE TWO, THE TWO THAT HAVE GOT THE MOST REQUESTS, 34%, UH, SO FAR THIS YEAR.

AND THAT TOTALS $45,614 IN CHANGE FROM, FROM TWO INDIVIDUALS.

AND, AND WE'VE HAD SOME, YOU KNOW, VERY, SOME CONTENTIOUS THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

BUT THE THING THAT, UM, IS DISCOURAGING TO ME THAT WE FOUND OUT THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL QUESTION AND ANSWERS IS, IS THE VOLUME HASN'T DROPPED OFF FROM THESE TWO.

IT'S CONTINUED.

SO THAT, THAT'S A LITTLE DISCOURAGING.

AND UM, SO ONE OF THE THOUGHTS, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ON THESE TWO THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I KNOW WE CAN'T BILL 'EM, WE CAN ONLY BILL 'EM STAFF CHARGES PLUS, PLUS MAYBE OVERHEAD, UM, SOME OVERHEAD.

HAVE WE CHARGED THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS? WE HAVE, AGAIN, IT, IT, IT DID NOT TOTAL MUCH, I WOULD SAY BETWEEN THE TWO, MAYBE LESS THAN $200.

BUT THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE BEEN BILLED.

THEY HAVE.

UM, IT'S KIND OF FOR, UH, NICOLE.

AND, AND THE OTHER THOUGHT I HAD IS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S BASICALLY TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.

IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY REASONABLE, YOU KNOW, MIGHT NOT HURT US TO REACH OUT TO, TO THAT, THAT PERSON AND JUST MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THE EXPENSE THAT THEY'RE INCURRING.

AND, AND I WOULD SAY THE OPPOSITE OF THAT.

IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S HIGHLY UNREASONABLE, WE PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO COMMUNICATE THAT.

SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY THOUGHTS I HAD.

THANK GOOD MORNING, DARREN.

WE GO SEAN.

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UH, THE, SO THE, THE LAW ON THIS IS WE CAN'T CHARGE FOR TECHNOLOGY FOR IT OR FOR LEGAL FEES.

WE CAN ONLY CHARGE THAT $15 AN HOUR FOR ADMIN LEVEL AND THE OVERHEAD.

AND I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS WE CAN CHARGE, BUT WE'RE VERY LIMITED UNDER THE PIA.

AND I THINK IT'S, ASHLEY NOTED IT, IT'S LEGISLATION.

IT JUST HASN'T CAUGHT UP WITH THE TIMES.

AND SO I THINK THAT THOSE COSTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH LITERALLY PULLING RECORDS.

IT'S NOT, IT HASN'T CAUGHT UP TO THE USE OF ELECTRONICS.

SO DO YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING? THAT'S BECAUSE THIS ISN'T GOING, IT IS NOT GOING AWAY.

UM, DO I SEE THE TEXAS LEGISLATIVE CHANGING IN THE PI? DO YOU SEE ANYTHING COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE? POSSIBLY.

UM, I MEAN, WE'LL SEE, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME THE LEGISLATURE MEETS IT'S ALWAYS, WHO KNOWS? UM, BUT I MEAN, MAYBE LOBBYING EFFORTS WOULD HELP, YOU KNOW, FROM LIKE CITY SECRETARY GROUPS.

I'LL TELL YOU, UM, I JUST LOOKING AT THESE RIGHTS, THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE I'VE BEEN IN, HOPEFULLY, SO AT LEAST THE LAST 15 YEARS.

HOPEFULLY WE PUT OUR LOBBY PEOPLE ON THAT AS WELL.

THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

IT'S NOT GOING AWAY.

SO WE CAN MAKE PUBLIC RECORDS, REQUEST OF PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTERS SO WE CAN REQUEST THAT INFORMATION.

SORRY, I WAS JUST, YES.

UM, SO AS MARLIN SAID, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE RATE'S SLOWING DOWN.

SO WHAT DOES THE RUN RATE LOOK LIKE FOR THE WHOLE YEAR? SO IF WE WERE TO HAVE TO BUDGET FOR THIS, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT BUDGETING? SO IF IT'S, AND I GUESS THE ANSWER WOULD BE OVER WHAT WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET NOW.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FEW MORE MONTHS BY THAT POINT AND WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO SEE IF IT CONTINUES TO MARLIN'S QUESTION, IS IT CONTINUING AT THAT POINT? SO I THINK WE'LL HAVE A MORE, A BETTER DISCUSSION OF THAT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.

'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA COME FORWARD WITH OUR ESTIMATE FOR NEXT YEAR AND WE'LL GIVE THE UNCERTAINTY WITH THAT.

UM, BUT IT'S GONNA HAVE TO TAKE SOME GUESSING ON IS THIS GONNA CONTINUE OR NOT? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

SO, UH, IF YOU CAN GO FURTHER DOWN INTO THE DETAIL OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE SO FAR, THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE CHANGED OR ADDED IN TO MAKE IT, UH, LOWER COST.

NOT THAT ONE.

I THINK IT'S THE NEXT ONE.

SO THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION IS, IS, UH, BEFORE WE WERE DOING IT THE EXPENSIVE WAY WITHOUT E-DISCOVERY, YOU GUYS, LOTS OF MORE LEGAL FEES AND SUCH.

NOW WE'VE OPTIMIZED A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE'VE DONE ONE INCREMENT OF OPTIMIZATION.

SO IF IT'S RUNNING US $30,000 A MONTH NOW WITH THIS, IS THAT $10,000 A MONTH? THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, RIGHT? AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA WATCH.

THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, UM, BEING ABLE TO SEE HOW DOES MAY THROUGH WHEN WE MEET AGAIN ON BUDGET, HOW DOES THAT LOOK? HOW IS THAT SOFTWARE HELPING US? ARE THE REQUESTS COMING DOWN, THE VOLUME INVOLVED IN THOSE REQUESTS COMING DOWN? OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I WANNA LOOK FOR BECAUSE I WANNA KNOW WHAT WE'RE IN FOR WHENEVER BUDGET TIME COMES UP.

AND WE DO NEED TO BE MOVING ALONG.

WE STILL HAVE MORE OF THIS PRESENTATION TO GO MARLON, BRIEFLY.

REAL, REAL QUICK.

UM, I DO LIKE DARREN, WHAT YOU WERE PROPOSING, LIKE LOOKING INTO THIS LEGISLATIVELY WISE, LIKE, UH, PRICING.

UH, MAYBE MAYBE TALK TO SOMEBODY LIKE, HEY, CAN WE LOOK AT CONSIDERING RAISING THE PRICE IF THEY'VE BEEN LIKE THIS FOR SOME TIME, YOU KNOW, CAN WE DO THAT? AND THEN, AND THEN SOME OF THIS STUFF, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY FEELS LIKE NOT A, NOT A PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT REQUEST.

IT SEEMS LIKE AN ATTACK, YOU KNOW, SOME OF IT, SOME OF IT JUST KIND OF ENDS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IS THERE, I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO JUST PURSUE, I'D JUST LIKE TO HAVE THIS ON OUR, ON OUR LIST OF THINGS WE WANT TO CONSIDER LEGISLATIVELY EVERY YEAR.

I, I THINK WE NEED TO ADD THIS TO THE LIST AND KIND OF START THINKING ABOUT THIS WHERE MAYBE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE IN THE PAST.

'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GETTING OUTTA CONTROL, ESPECIALLY WITH, UH, WHAT WE SAID ABOUT AI.

THAT'S ALL I HAD.

REAL QUICK, ONE QUESTION, PLEASE.

BRIEFLY BE VERY BRIEFLY, DO I NEED TO MAKE AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST TO GET THOSE NAMES OR, OR IS MY REQUEST HERE BEHIND THE DAS SUFFICIENT FOR THAT? YOU, YOU MADE A REQUEST TO STAFF? WE'LL PROVIDE A RESPONSE TO YOUR REQUEST.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

CAN WE, UH, CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION? I THINK STEVEN'S GOT MORE TO, MORE TO SAY YOU, ASHLEY.

OKAY, MOVING ON.

SO, UH, THE, THE REST OF THIS PRESENTATION SHOULD NOT BE, UH, AS LONG.

SO, UH, MOVING ON TO OUR DEBT SERVICE FUND.

SO, UM, IF YOU RECALL, WE, WE DID A BOND REFUNDING BACK IN JANUARY.

UH, SO WE HAVE BOND PROCEEDS THAT CAME IN FROM THE NEW BONDS AND WE IMMEDIATELY PAY OFF THE OLD BONDS.

SO THIS IS JUST RECOGNIZING, UH, THAT TRANSACTION.

AND THEN OVER THE NEXT NINE YEARS, OUR, UH, INTEREST SAVINGS WILL BE ABOUT $1.6 MILLION, UH, BEGINNING IN 2027, UH,

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AND I MENTIONED, UH, PRIOR YEAR ENCUMBRANCES.

UH, SO WE DID HAVE, UH, THREE PROJECTS THAT WERE PRIOR YEAR ENCUMBRANCES, WHICH, UH, WERE ANTICIPATED TO BE FINISHED, UH, IN THE PRIOR YEAR.

SO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND A DA IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, THE CONFERENCE CENTER RENOVATION PROJECT AND THE REDDING TRAIL DOG PARK EXTENSION PROJECT.

AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, UH, COUNSEL EARLIER THIS YEAR APPROVED A DESIGN CONTRACT FOR THE ADDISON JUNCTION INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, SO THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT INCLUDES $750,000, UH, FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND, UH, FOR A PORTION OF THAT DESIGN.

AND THEN IN THE AIRPORT FUND, UH, THE BUDGET AMENDMENT INCLUDES A TRANSFER TO THE SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND, UH, FOR SIX YEARS OF PRIOR DEBT SERVICE THAT WAS PAID, UH, BY THE TOWN ON BEHALF OF THE AIRPORT.

UH, THAT AMOUNT IS $1,783,000.

AND THEN OUR GRANT FUND.

SO EARLIER, UH, IN THIS YEAR, UH, COUNCIL APPROVED, UH, TWO PURCHASES THAT WERE, UH, UH, PAID FOR BY GRANT FUNDS.

SO MOTOR VEHICLE BARRIERS OF $100,000 AND THEN, UH, THE FLOCK LICENSE PLATE READER CAMERA SYSTEM, UH, $212,906, UH, WHICH IS FULLY OFFSET BY, UH, GRANT REVENUE, UH, IN AN EQUAL AMOUNT.

AND THEN IN OUR CAPITAL EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND, WE HAVE PRIOR YEAR ENCUMBRANCES, UH, FOR, UH, EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES THAT WERE ORDERED IN THE PRIOR YEAR AND DELIVERED IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

SO WE HAD AN AMBULANCE, UH, A DUMP TRUCK, A SAND SPREADER, AND THEN A REPLACEMENT TRUCK, UH, FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UH, WE ALSO HAD A TOTAL LOSS POLICE VEHICLE THAT WAS COVERED BY INSURANCE TO SO REPLACEMENT OF THAT.

AND THEN COUNSEL, UH, AT A, AT THE PRIOR MEETING, UH, IN MAY, I THINK THE LAST MEETING IN MAY, UH, APPROVED A CRANE TRUCK PURCHASE OF JUST UNDER $174,000.

UH, THAT, UH, WAS, WAS A, A GOOD DEAL FOR THE TOWN.

UM, AND THEN OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, SO THESE ARE ALL PRIOR ENCUMBRANCES, UH, FOR THE KELLER SPRINGS, UH, RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, AIRPORT PARKWAY RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING BUILDINGS PROJECT AND THE JIMMY DOOLITTLE DRIVE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

SO THOSE WERE ALL, UH, ITEMS THAT WERE BUDGETED IN THE PRIOR YEAR.

AND, UH, THOSE FUNDS ARE MOVED OVER TO THE, UH, NEW FISCAL YEAR.

SO OVERALL, UH, IN THE GENERAL FUND, NO, UH, NO NET IMPACT DEBT SERVICE FUND, NO NET IMPACT, UH, THE PRIOR ENCUMBRANCES AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND, UH, CAPITAL EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND, AND THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, UH, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THAT THAT'S AN IMPACT ON EXPENSES, BUT NO REVENUE.

UH, GRANT FUND IS FULLY OFFSET, UH, BY OR GRANT REVENUE.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE AIRPORT FUND TRANSFER, UH, LISTED THERE AS WELL.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

STEVEN.

ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION JUST BACK ON THE, UH, CRANE TRUCK.

SLIDE 18.

SO I THOUGHT, UH, LAST WHEN WE APPROVED THAT LAST, UH, MEETING, THAT THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED SOMEWHERE IN A BUDGET, IT WAS ANTICIPATED TO BE REPLACED NEXT YEAR.

UM, SO THEY GOT A TRUCK THAT WAS BASICALLY AT A REALLY, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT REALLY GOOD DEAL.

THAT WAS A PRIOR YEAR MODEL, SO THAT'S WHY THEY BROUGHT THAT FORWARD.

SO THAT'S A FUTURE YEAR ENC CONFERENCE? AFU , YES.

YEAH, IF IT WOULD BE.

SO, UH, BACK ON THE, UM, THE AIRPORT, UH, SLIDE.

I DIDN'T, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE MORE IN LAYMAN'S TERMS? YEAH, SO, SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, THAT, THAT COUNCIL HAS TALKED ABOUT WITH, UH, THE, THE LAND AT THE AIRPORT, THE LAND THAT THE, UH, CURRENT POLICE STATION SITS ON, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL OF WHERE THAT POLICE BUILDING'S GONNA BE.

AND I THINK ONE THING THAT, UH, WAS DISCUSSED AT A PRIOR MEETING, I'LL LET DAVID, DAVID, DO YOU WANNA, DID YOU WANNA YEAH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD KIND OF MAKE IT IN STEVENS CORRECT WHAT HE'S SAYING.

I WOULD JUST KIND OF MAKE IT MORE SIMPLE.

UM, SO PREVIOUSLY THE GENERAL, GENERAL GOVERNMENT PAID PROPERTY TAX PAID SOME DEBT SERVICE FOR THE AIRPORT FUND IN PRIOR YEARS.

WE HAVE A GOOD PROB A GOOD ISSUE RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE AIRPORT FUND'S MAKING MONEY WHERE IT WASN'T MAKING MONEY IN THE SAME WAY IN THE PAST.

SO BECAUSE THE AIRPORT NOW FUND NOW HAS A SURPLUS, WE JUST DID AN ACCOUNTING OF, OKAY, THE GENERAL, THE PROPERTY TAX PAID FOR DEBT SERVICE FOR THE AIRPORT FUND BACK WHEN IT WASN'T MAKING A PROFIT.

NOW THAT IT HAS ADDITIONAL FUNDS, IT'S PAYING BACK THOSE PAYMENTS THAT WERE MADE THROUGH PROPERTY TAX PREVIOUSLY.

I AM, I'M JUST GONNA TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT.

WE'RE BASICALLY RE BASICALLY PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS HAD BEEN USED TO SERVICE DEBT ON THE AIRPORT AND NOW WE'RE, WE'RE RECOUPING THAT, BUT IT SHOWS PRIOR SIX YEARS.

BUT THAT, THAT'S WHAT GETS ME.

IT SHOWS EXPENSES.

I DON'T UNDER, WELL, IT'S AN EXPENSE TO THE AIRPORT FUND.

EXPENSE TO THE AIRPORT FUND.

OH, THERE IT IS.

ON THE TOP OF THE SLIDE.

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ONE MORE QUESTION FOR CHIEF FREEZE IF I CAN.

RANDY, CAN I, WHILE STEVEN'S UP THERE? YEAH, GO AHEAD PLEASE.

A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

SO, UM, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, RIGHT? I, I GUESS I'M HAVING ISSUES WITH ALL OF THAT.

SO, UM, AIRPORT PARKWAY CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S NOT FUNDED OUTTA THE AIRPORT FUND.

AIRPORT PARKWAY IS NOT.

SO THESE ARE, SO WE HAVE TWO, WE HAVE KELLER SPRINGS, UH, ROAD RECONSTRUCTION AIRPORT PARKWAY AIRPORT PARKWAY, AND THE IMPROVEMENT, UH, TO EXISTING BUILDINGS, THOSE WERE ALL FROM THE 2019 BOND ELECTION.

UM, SO THESE ARE JUST FUNDS THAT WE ANTICIPATED WE'RE GONNA BE SPENDING IN 2025, UH, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE DESIGN CONTRACTS AND CONSTRUCTION GOING ON FOR, UM, KELLER SPRINGS IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, OBVIOUSLY IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING BUILDINGS.

WE ANTICIPATED SPENDING THAT MONEY A LITTLE FASTER.

AND THEN THE AIRPORT PARKWAY PROJECT IS UNDER DESIGN.

UM, SO THOSE FUNDS HAVE JUST BEEN SPENT A LITTLE BIT SLOWER THAN WE ANTICIPATED.

SO THIS IS BASICALLY JUST ROLLING THOSE BUDGETS.

UH, FORWARD TO THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

AIRPORT PARKWAY, NOT I GET IT.

AND THEN JIMMY YEAH, I, I GET THAT NOW.

AND THEN JIMMY DOOLITTLE, THAT'S ALSO, THAT IS AIRPORT FUNDS, SO THAT IS IN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, BUT IS FUNDED BY AIRPORT BONDS.

CHIEF FREEZE PLEASE FOR, FOR, UH, ADDING THIS POSITION.

OF A TRAFFIC OFFICER.

ANY FEDERAL FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR ANY OF THAT OR HAVE WE LOOKED INTO ANY KIND OF OTHER FUNDING FOR, UH, FULL-TIME POSITION? YEAH, UH, THERE'S POTENTIALLY FUNDING MECHANISMS AVAILABLE.

WE HAVEN'T LOOKED FOR PERSONNEL, WE'VE LOOKED MORE FOR EQUIPMENT.

UM, BUT IF YOU RECALL, WHENEVER WE, UM, CAME FORWARD WITH THE M-V-C-P-A GRANT, UH, AUTHORIZATION FOR US TO APPLY, WE ADDED A POSITION FOR THAT.

BUT THAT'S THROUGH THE STATE.

I KNEW THAT.

I JUST, IF WE CAN GET MONEY FROM THE FEDS FOR SOMETHING, I WOULD BE ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.

WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR GRANT OPPORTUNITIES, UM, THAT YOU GO, BOY.

ALL RIGHT.

A MOTION TO APPROVE SIX A SECOND AND SECOND FOR MARLON.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

UH, ITEM SIX B, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE DENOMINATION OF CENSUS TRACT 1 3 1 3 6 0.28 FOR DESIGNATION AS A QUALIFIED OPPORTUNITY ZONE UNDER THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE 2.0 PROGRAM ESTABLISHED BY SECTION 7 0 4 2, 1 OF THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL ACT OF 2025 AND AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO SUBMIT THE NOMINATION PACKET TO THE TEXAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM OFFICE.

OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

ITEM SIX A IS APPROVED.

THANKS EVERYBODY ON THAT.

[6.b. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution supporting the nomination of Census Tract 136.28 for designation as a Qualified Opportunity Zone under the Opportunity Zone 2.0 program established by Section 70421 of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act of 2025; and authorizing the Director of Economic Development to submit the nomination packet to the Texas Economic Development and Tourism Office, Office of the Governor, on or before June 26, 2026.]

OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR ON OR BEFORE JUNE 26TH, 2026.

HELLO, WAYNE.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL WAYNE EMERSON, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

UH, WE ARE HERE TO TALK OPPORTUNITY ZONE 2.0 AS PART OF THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL ACT OR THE OBB AS THE KIDS ARE CALLING IT.

UM, THIS IS, UH, WAS, UH, HAD MADE PERMANENT AS PART OF THE TAX CODE.

AND I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS AS SUPER AS SIMPLE AS I CAN.

IF THERE IS A CAPITAL GAINS, IF YOU'RE AN INVESTOR, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH STOCK REAL ESTATE, UH, IF YOU PUT THAT CAPITAL GAINS TO WORK IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE, YOU THAT, UH, CAPITAL GAIN CAN GROW TAX FREE FOR 10 YEARS.

THERE'S A FEW MORE DETAILS IN THERE, BUT BROADLY SPEAKING, THAT'S MOST OF THE BENEFIT THAT YOU WOULD GET FROM THIS.

UM, AND SO JUST THE COMPOUNDING EFFECT OF A BEING TO DEFER THOSE, UH, INITIAL TAXES FOR A PERIOD AND THEN GETTING THAT COMPOUND INTEREST, UH, ON THAT GROWTH OF THAT INVESTMENT.

UH, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE MOST SUCCESSFUL FEDERALLY, UH, SPONSORED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.

SO OTHER ONES YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH WOULD BE, UH, NEW MARKET TAX CREDITS, LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS, OR HISTORIC TAX CREDITS.

SO THIS IS THE NEWEST, UH, FEDERAL PROGRAM AND IT'S, UH, BEEN THE MOST SUCCESSFUL IN ATTRACTING INVESTMENT, UH, PROJECT TYPES THAT ARE, UH, ELIGIBLE WITHIN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.

UH, MAINLY COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE THAT CAN BE MIXED USE, UH, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING, HOSPITALITY, RETAIL, UH, INTERESTINGLY IS OPERATING BUSINESSES.

UM, I CAN GO TO DETAIL ON THAT 'CAUSE IT CAN BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT, UH, TO GET APPROVED FOR THAT.

UH, AND THEN MAINLY WHAT YOU SEE IS GROUND UP, UH, DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN IT HAS TO BE SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT OF AN EXISTING BUILDING.

UM, SO WHAT IS THE, THE BENEFIT OF THIS DESIGNATION? UH, THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF CAPITAL THAT GOES INTO THESE QUALIFIED OPPORTUNITY ZONE FUNDS.

AND THIS IS AN ABILITY, IF YOU'RE A REAL ESTATE SPONSOR OR YOU'RE A BUSINESS SPONSOR AND YOU'RE LOOKING TO ATTRACT EQUITY, THIS IS A REAL GOOD WAY.

GIVES, GIVES YOUR PROJECT A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE.

UH, AND IN

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TURN, IF YOU'RE A MUNICIPALITY OR A COUNTY OR ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY, IT GIVES YOUR AREA, YOUR CENSUS, UH, DESIGNATED ZONE GIVES YOU THAT COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE OUT IN THE MARKET BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO ATTRACT, UH, CAPITAL AT A CHEAPER, UH, COST.

UM, IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE, UH, HIGHLY COMPETITIVE.

UM, SO I'LL KIND OF START FROM THE BOTTOM AND KIND OF MOVE ON THE WAY OUT.

UH, WITHIN DALLAS COUNTY, THERE ARE 279 ELIGIBLE TRACKS.

UH, TO BE ELIGIBLE, YOU NEED, UH, THE TRACK NEEDS TO HAVE A, A A 70% BELOW THE, UM, MEDIUM FAMILY INCOME.

AND THEN THERE'S A SECOND METHOD YOU CAN QUALIFY.

I BELIEVE IT'S A 20% POVERTY RATE WITH 125% OF THE MEDIUM FAMILY INCOME.

SO THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 279 ELIGIBLE TRACKS HERE IN DALLAS COUNTY.

UM, HOWEVER, THE STATE HAS THEIR OWN CAP ON HOW MANY TRACKS CAN BE ELIGIBLE, AND THEY, THEY LIMIT THAT TO 70%.

UM, IN ADDITION, THE STATE IS ULTIMATELY, ANYTIME YOU HAVE SOME FEDERAL FUNDS LIKE THIS, THEY, UH, THAT OFTEN FILTERS THROUGH THE STATE.

SO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, ECONOMIC AND DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM WILL BE THE ONES ULTIMATELY SELECTING THESE TRACKS.

UM, AND THEY, UH, HAVE DECIDED TO USE A SCORING SYSTEM, WHICH I'LL GO THROUGH IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE.

UM, THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE WAY THEY DID IT ORIGINALLY.

ORIGINALLY, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE JUST WENT OUT, UH, KIND OF SELECTED THOSE TRACKS, UH, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, INQUIRING FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENTS OR, UM, INVESTORS, AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO KIND OF, UH, BE A LITTLE MORE OPEN AND, AND HOPEFULLY GET SOME MORE SUCCESS.

UM, BUT ULTIMATELY IT WILL BE THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THAT SELECTS THESE TRACKS.

UH, AND THEN, UM, FROM A FEDERAL LEVEL, THE STATE CAN ONLY DESIGNATE 25% OF THEIR ELIGIBLE TRACK.

SO THERE'S SORT OF THIS GAUNTLET OF ELIGIBILITY THAT YOU GOTTA KIND OF GO THROUGH.

THE FIRST BEING THOUGH, YOU GOTTA HAVE A ELIGIBLE TRACK.

UH, HERE IN ADDISON, WE HAVE THREE ELIGIBLE TRACKS, UM, UH, STAFF HERE.

WE, WE REVIEW THESE AND, UH, DUE TO THE NATURE OF HOW COMPETITIVE THESE TRACKS ARE AND THAT ADDISON DIDN'T GET ANY ELIGIBLE TRACKS, UH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE GO WITH ONE, UH, ELIGIBLE TRACK AS A NOMINATION TONIGHT TO ASK, ASK FROM COUNSEL.

AND, UH, DUE TO THAT RESEARCH, WE LOOKED AT TRACK 1 3 6 0.28.

UM, AND I'LL GO INTO SOME OF OUR OWN SCORING RUBRIC OF WHY WE CHOSE THAT.

BUT ESSENTIALLY, OF ALL THE, THE TRACKS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE, THIS ONE ENCOMPASSED THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF LAND WITHIN ADDISON.

IT ALSO HAD THE MOST ELIGIBLE PROJECTS AND, UH, THE MOST OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SCORING RUBRIC HERE.

UH, THE SCORING IS ON A 10 POINT SCALE.

UH, THE FIRST BEING, UH, WELL, FIRST YOU'VE GOTTA BE, UM, THE CENSUS TRACKS GOT, HAS TO COMPLY.

THOSE ARE THOSE THREE.

SO THERE'S REALLY NO SCORING TO THAT.

AND THEN THE FIRST IS PROJECT VIABILITY.

SO YOU COULD THINK OF THIS, UH, HOW ATTRACTIVE IS THIS IS THE CENSUS TRACK TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THE SECOND BEING LOCAL SUPPORT, WHICH IS REALLY WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.

UM, THE EASIEST WAY THAT WE CAN SHOW LOCAL SUPPORT IS BY DOING A RESOLUTION AND NOMINATING THE TRACK THAT, THAT WE WANT TO SUPPORT.

AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS REALLY PUTTING, UH, INVESTMENT BEHIND THAT CENSUS TRACK.

AND, UH, YOU'LL SEE HERE, UH, I THINK WE'RE DOING THAT.

AND THEN THE LAST, UH, TWO POINTS, OUR GEOGRAPHIC BALANCE, UH, ONE OF THOSE BEING IS IT A DESIGNATED DISASTER ZONE? AND TWO, IS IT A ROLLER AREA? UH, NONE OF OUR, UH, ELIGIBLE CENSUS TRACKS QUALIFY FOR THOSE.

SO WE'RE AUTOMATICALLY, UH, GONNA GET DING THOSE, THOSE TWO POINTS.

SO WE REALLY WANNA MAXIMIZE OUR PROJECT VIABILITY AND OUR LOCAL SUPPORT.

UM, GOING BACK TO PROJECT VIABILITY AND THAT LOCAL SUPPORT, UH, WE CAN SEE HERE WITHIN THIS CENSUS TRACK THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO COUNCIL THIS EVENING, WE HAVE $240 MILLION IN AS INJUNCTION.

$40 MILLION OF THAT IS, UH, A PUBLIC INVESTMENT.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE MULTIPLE, UH, OFFICE, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER GONNA BE RENOVATED OR, UM, GO THROUGH GROUND UP DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WE ALSO HAVE THE QUORUM DRIVE RECONSTRUCTION AS PART OF THIS CENSUS TRACK THAT'S ANO AN ADDITIONAL 40 MILLION, UH, THAT POTENTIALLY THE TOWN COULD BE INVESTING IN THAT PROJECT.

UH, SO ALL IN ALL, THAT'S ABOUT $530 MILLION IN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING WITH THIS WITHIN THE ZONE.

AND WE THINK THAT IS, UH, HIGHLY COMPETITIVE WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER CENSUS TRACKS THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE.

SO WE FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THAT PROJECT VIABILITY PART.

UM,

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THE NEXT THING WE NEED IS WE'VE GOT A DEADLINE OF JUNE 26TH TO SUBMIT OUR, OUR NOMINATION PACKET TO THE STATE.

UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FROM COUNCIL TONIGHT IS TO APPROVE THIS COUNCIL RESOLUTION, DESIGNATING THAT CENSUS TRACK.

AND THEN FROM THERE, UH, MY STAFF WOULD LIKE TO, UH, DO OUTREACH TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR, TO THOSE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO GET THEIR LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND TO THE OTHER VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN THE CENSUS TRACK.

SO WE'D LIKE TO REACH OUT TO OUR STATE REPS, OUR, UH, COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, UH, DART ANY OTHER STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE BELIEVE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN SEEING INVESTMENT IN THIS CENSUS TRACK.

UM, AND THEN ONCE WE'VE DONE THAT, WE WILL, UH, STAFF WILL PACKAGE ALL OF THOSE, UH, LETTERS OF, UH, RECOMMENDATION TOGETHER AND WE'LL SUBMIT THOSE TO THE STATE OF TEXAS AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A SUCCESSFUL, UM, NOMINATION.

SO WITH THAT, UM, STAFF, OR DO WE WANNA TAKE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO? THE RECOMMENDED? YEAH, WE'LL GO AND TAKE QUESTIONS.

CHRIS, SO I LOVE THAT YOU SELECTED THIS TRACK.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE ARE SOME OFFICE TOWERS THERE THAT ARE RIPE FOR, YOU KNOW, REDEVELOPMENT, SO MAYBE THAT'LL GIVE 'EM SOME ADDITIONAL ATTENTION.

UM, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON THE QUORUM DRIVE RECONSTRUCTION? I MEAN, WE, THAT THAT'S GONNA BE FUNDED BY BONDS.

I MEAN, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD SUDDENLY NOT FUND A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT PROJECT AND HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR FUND IT? NO, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE THIS IS BASED OFF, UM, SORT OF A PASS THROUGH, UH, INCENTIVE, IT REALLY IS ON, ON INCOME TAX.

THERE'S GOTTA BE A 10 YEAR HOLD.

I WOULD SAY THAT FROM THE TOWN'S PERSPECTIVE, THIS INCENTIVE, WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE MUCH DIRECT BENEFIT.

IT WILL REALLY BE SORT OF INDIRECT.

SO THE BEST WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS IS IF I AM A SPONSOR, IF I'VE GOT A REAL ESTATE PROJECT, OR, YOU KNOW, IF I'VE GOT AN OPERATING BUSINESS, IT'S JUST GONNA BE EASIER FOR ME TO GO AND ATTRACT EQUITY CAPITAL, RIGHT? AND SO IT'D BE REALLY DIFFICULT.

I CAN'T IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, ANY, UM, PRIVATE DEVELOPER ABLE TO GO OUT AND GET FINANCING FOR A, A, A PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT, UM, BECAUSE REAL, AND IT, IT GETS REALLY INTERESTING INTO THE MECHANICS OF WHEN THEY CAN STEP UP THEIR BASES AND ALL THAT, REALLY, THERE'S GOTTA BE A SALE.

THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A SALE.

SO IT'S VERY, THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE QUORUM DRIVE RECONSTRUCTION, BUT I LOVE EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE.

AND THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, WOULD, WOULD INWOOD ROAD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS? IT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT, THAT CENSUS TRACK.

SO, UM, ESSENTIALLY THESE ARE, I DON'T , I DON'T KNOW WHO, WHO DRAWS UP THE CENSUS TRACKS, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE WITHIN THERE AND IT'S GOTTA MEET THOSE, UH, UH, MEDIUM FAMILY INCOME THRESHOLDS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU, DAN WAYNE.

THIS IS AWFULLY EXCITING.

AND WITHIN LOOKING AT THIS REDEVELOPMENT WITH ALL THESE OFFICE TOWERS AND KNOWING WHERE OFFICE TOWERS ARE IN THE, THE STATE THEY'RE IN, THE CONDITION THEY'RE IN.

DO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE POINT, THE POINT STRUCTURE, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT POINT SYSTEM, DOES REDEVELOPMENT GET A, GET A LITTLE MORE OF A NOD GOVERNMENTALLY SPEAKING, OR IS IT GROUNDBREAKING FROM A, AN EMPTY FIELD OF DIRT, IN YOUR OPINION? SO, SO WHAT THEY LOOK FOR, THEY LOOK FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE, UH, UH, READY TO TURN, UH, TURN DIRT IN 24 TO 48 MONTHS.

IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT OF AN ENTIRE OFFICE BUILDING VERSUS GROUND UP DEVELOPMENT.

THE OTHER THING I SHOULD NOTE IS IT NEEDS TO BE SUBSTANTIAL REDEVELOPMENT.

SO IF I'VE GOT A, YOU KNOW, A $20 MILLION OFFICE BUILDING, I WANNA PUT $2 MILLION IN, THAT'S NOT REALLY GONNA WORK.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE TO TALK TO THE ACCOUNTANTS ABOUT WHAT'S CONSIDERED SUBSTANTIAL, BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE CLOSE TO 50% OF THE VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY.

SO IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST DOING A FACELIFT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY REDEVELOPMENT IS, IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS.

AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS, SO THE MARY CASE SITE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS POTENTIAL? IT'S OUTSIDE THAT HOUSE.

UH, BOY, YOU SAID A LOT OF WORDS AND IT STILL HADN'T SUNK IN AS TO EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS.

UH, I'M WITH CHRIS.

I, WHEN I FIRST GLANCED AT THAT, I THOUGHT THE INWOOD, THE REDEVELOPMENT IN INWOOD WOULD'VE BEEN IN THERE AND THAT WOULD'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD.

WHAT? YEP.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? THIS, THIS IS NOT A TS NO.

SO THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MONEY STAYING IN THIS, THIS IS SIMPLY FOR OUTSIDE DEVELOPMENT TO BE ABLE TO INVEST THEIR MONEY IN A PROJECT AND NOT HAVE TO PAY TAX ON IT.

FEDERAL, FEDERAL INCOME TAX.

CORRECT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

REALLY COST THE CITY ANYTHING, RIGHT? CORRECT.

SO IT IS A WAY TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, INVESTORS TO INVEST IN THIS AREA.

IT WILL, IT WILL AFFECT NOTHING ELSE AS FAR AS US HAVING TO MATCH FUNDS WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

IT WON'T

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O ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT WHAT OUR INVESTMENTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED HELP THE STATE AND THEIR SCORING RUBRIC OF SAYING THIS, THE, THE CITY'S ALREADY COMMITTED INVESTMENT AND FUNDS, AND SO WE, WE WANNA SELECT THEM, WE'RE NOT CHEATING.

ANOTHER LACK OF TURS HAS TO BE USED IN ONE CERTAIN AREA.

AND IT CAN'T BE USED IN ANOTHER SIDE OF TOWN.

SO THIS IS NOT GOING TO KEEP ANY MONEY THAT'S GENERATED IN HERE FROM BEING USED IN ANY OTHER PART OF THE TOWN? NO.

WHY WOULDN'T WE DO ALL THREE OF 'EM? UM, IT, IT REALLY COULD BE JUST THE NATURE OF THE COMPETITIVENESS.

UM, I THINK IF, IF THERE WAS AN ARGUMENT TO DO TWO, I WOULD SAY 1 3 8 0.05.

BUT IF YOU GO BACK TO, I SAID THE DALLAS COUNTY, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR LETTERS OF SUPPORT, ONE THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT INTERNALLY IS IF YOU LOOK AT 1 3 7, MOST OF THAT CENSUS TRACK IS IN CARROLLTON.

AND SO YOU MIGHT HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE STATE'S GOING OUT AND THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, ADDISON WANTS TRACK 1, 3, 7, CARROLLTON WANTS TRACKED 1, 3 7.

HEY, TWO FOR ONE, LET'S GET THAT ONE DONE.

UH, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANT AND WE JUST DON'T THINK THEY'RE VERY COMPETITIVE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT SHOVEL READY PROJECTS, I WOULD'VE REALLY ENJOYED A WORK SESSION OR MAYBE A SIT DOWN TO EXPLAIN THIS STRONGER TO ME.

BUT I'M, I'M STARTING TO GRASP WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

UM, BUT YOU STARTED OFF WITH LOW INCOME.

YOU HAD TO BE LOW INCOME TO QUALIFY.

WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? DO WE HAVE TO DO LOW INCOME HOUSING TO QUALIFY FOR THIS? THIS, THIS IS THE CURRENT, UH, RESIDENT BASE WITHIN THAT CENSUS TRACK.

SO IF YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE, THAT WOULD INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT KIND OF RUNS DOWN THERE THROUGH FARMER'S BRANCH OVER TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE TOLLWAY INTO DALLAS.

SO IT'S PRIMARILY CATCHING UP MOST OF THAT RESIDENTIAL AREA.

SOME OF THIS IS, SOME OF THIS IS OUT OF ADDISON.

UH, YES, I WOULD, THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO 1 37 BECAUSE IT WAS IN FARMER'S BRANCH.

WELL, OR CARROLLTON, I APOLOGIZE.

WELL, WE ONLY, ANOTHER CITY, WE ONLY HAVE A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF AREA THAT'S THERE IN ADDISON AND JUST THERE'S NO SHOVEL READY PROJECTS THAT WOULD BENEFIT US THERE.

SO REALLY WHAT'S DRIVING OUR DECISION IS THIS, THIS RIGHT HERE, THE $530 MILLION INVESTMENT.

THE INVESTMENT, THE, THE LOW INCOME IS STILL STICKING IN MY HEAD.

AND I'M, YOU HAVEN'T EXPLAINED THAT WELL ENOUGH TO ME TO UNDERSTAND WHY LOW INCOME IS PART OF THIS ENTIRE EQUATION WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR OFFICE BUILDING REFERRED.

SO THERE'S A, THERE'S NO LOW INCOME PROJECTS.

IT'S JUST SAYING WHEN THEY'RE SCORING TO SAY, ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE? THE FACT THAT THIS CENSUS TRACK IS LOW INCOME MAKES IT MORE LIKELY IT'S CALLED AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.

WELL, WELL, IT'S, IT'S NOT MORE LIKELY IT'S REQUIRED.

AND, BUT THE, THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES AREN'T LOW INCOME PROJECTS.

SO WITH SOME OF DALLAS BEING IN THAT TRACK HELPS US IN THAT REGARD.

IT, IT COULD, AND WE CERTAINLY WILL REACH OUT TO OUR PARTNERS IN FARMERS BRANCH IN DALLAS, UM, BECAUSE WE, WE COULD PARTNER WITH THEM AND SAY, HEY, WE LIKE THIS TRACK.

THIS IS IN YOUR AREA, UH, THAT ENCOMPASSES THE GALLERIA MALL.

SO WE'D BE HOPEFUL THAT THEY WOULD, UH, GO IN AND SUPPORT US, AND WE COULD KIND OF HAVE THAT UNITE FRONT, BUT WE'RE PREPARED TO NOMINATE THAT, UH, WITHOUT OUR PARTNERS IN FARMERS BRANCH OR, OR DALLAS, THE LOW INCOME STILL, I'M, I'M NOT GRASPING THAT, SO, BUT I, I ACCEPT YOUR E EXPLANATION AND UNDER, BUT I'M JUST NOT GRASPING WHY THAT'S A PART OF THIS.

SO, SO I THANK YOU.

THE IDEA IS THAT, BUT REINVESTMENT YOU CAN BRING COMES UP IS IS THE IDEA, DARREN? SO THESE TRACKS ARE PREDEFINED.

THEY COME TO US PREDEFINED FROM DALLAS COUNTY, STATE, WHATEVER.

SO WE DON'T CALL 'EM LOW INCOME.

THEY'VE CALLED 'EM, THEY'VE ALREADY DESIGNATED IT.

AND SO WE, THESE ARE THE ONES WE GET TO CHOOSE FROM.

WE DON'T GET TO CHANGE THOSE.

I, I GOT THAT.

UM, I THINK, UH, THIS IS REALLY WHAT A, WHAT A GREAT IDEA FOR INVESTMENT.

UH, 1, 3, 6 2 8 CHECKS A LOT OF BOXES FOR US FOR SURE.

SO I THINK THAT'S THE ONE, I MEAN, THAT'S THE ONE YOU SELECTED.

UM, SO OUR INVESTMENT AND OUR EXISTING PROJECTS, UM, INVESTMENT OF QUORUM AND SUCH, UH, THAT HELPS PAINT A BETTER PICTURE, TELLS A BETTER STORY FOR THE RUBRIC.

BECAUSE WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY SKIN IN THE GAME ALREADY.

THEY WERE LIKE, OH, YOU'RE GONNA POUR FIRE ONTO THIS ALREADY HOT AREA.

SO HOW LIKELY IS THIS TO GET APPROVED? SO, LIKE I SAID, LAST TIME, THEY DIDN'T ASK US, THEY JUST PICKED AND, AND YOU KNOW, KIND OF INFA, INFAMOUSLY, UH, THEY WENT OUT AND THEY SAID, HEY, EAST AUSTIN WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE FOR ONE OF THESE.

AND THEN, UH, AUSTIN CAME BACK AND SAID, NO, PLEASE DON'T, DON'T INVEST IN EAST AUSTIN.

UH, BECAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID OF THE RAPID GENTRIFICATION.

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SO WE'RE KIND OF FLYING BLIND RIGHT HERE, IS THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE EVEN GET, GET A SAY.

AND SO OUR, OUR, UH, STRATEGY, OUR PHILOSOPHY IS STAFF, LET'S TAKE THESE FOUR POINTS, LET'S MAXIMUM, LET'S TURN 'EM INTO EIGHT AND WE'LL SEE WHERE THE CHIPS FALL.

SO WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY LAST TIME? WAS THIS DONE BEFORE? SO, UH, I, I CAN'T, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS PART OF THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WE WERE CALLING IT BACK THEN, BUT IT WAS PASSED BACK, UH, IN THE FIRST TRUMP ADMIN.

UM, AND SO THAT WAS ORIGINALLY WHEN IT CAME IN, AND THEN IT WAS SET TO SUNSET JUST RECENTLY, AND THEY NOW MADE IT PERMANENT.

SO I LOOKED AT THIS AND I COULDN'T REALLY FIND A DOWNSIDE ONCE I MOSTLY PARTIALLY UNDERSTOOD IT.

IT IS PRETTY COMPLICATED.

TRIED TO GET YOUR BRAIN AROUND IT.

UM, SO WHAT'S THE, ANY UNINTENDED OUTCOME? YOU GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF AUSTIN, RIGHT? UH, THEIR, THEIR SCENARIO, I CAN SEE THAT, BUT IS THERE SOMETHING THAT, THAT I'M MISSING HERE THAT MAKES THIS A BAD IDEA? YOU JUST GET TOO MUCH INVESTMENT WITHIN AN AREA, OR THE INVESTMENT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN.

I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE THE EQUITY COMES IN DOESN'T MEAN THAT SPONSOR, THAT OWNER WANTS TO TAKE ON A NEW PROJECT.

BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE IRRELEVANT TO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S IN THE ZONE OR NOT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT'S GREAT AND I HOPE, I HOPE WE GET SELECTED.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD GIVE AN INCENTIVE WHERE, UH, SOME DEVELOPMENT ORDER WOULD HAPPEN ANYWAY, SO THEY'RE JUST REALLY GETTING SOME EXTRA ICING ON THE CAKE WHEN THEY WOULD DO IT ANYWAY.

WHICH, WHICH WAS WAS AUSTIN'S, UM, AND THAT WOULD BE WITH QIP AS WELL AS A MATTER OF FACT, AND SOME OF THE EXISTING ONES ARE IN THE CHAMBER.

THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.

THANKS.

IS THERE A MOTION? I LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I SECOND SIX B AND DAN, UH, DAN WITH THE SECOND.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

ITEM SIX B IS APPROVED.

THANK YOU, WAYNE.

UH, ITEM SEVEN, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.

UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AND THEN, UH, WE'LL GO BACK AND WE'LL REVISIT ONE OF OUR, AT LEAST ONE OF OUR, UH, WORK SESSION ITEMS, MAYBE NOT BOTH OF THEM.

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IT'S THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO, UH, SHARE EXPRESSIVE.

THANKS.

CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE, ET CETERA.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE? I DO.

RANDY.

I'M TRYING TO FIND HIM HERE.

I GOT DO IT SO, SO QUICKLY HERE.

APOLOGIZE.

I'LL JUMP IN REAL QUICK.

I'LL MAKE MY, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

IF YOU'RE READY THERE.

BEN, GO AHEAD.

I, UH, JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE OUR LOVELY TOWN OF ADDISON'S STAFF.

I GOT THIS DOOR HANGER.

ASHLEY, IF YOU'RE OUT THERE, UM, OR MAYOR, UH, THIS DOOR HANGER ABOUT BULK TRASH PICKUPS AND EDUCATING RESIDENTS ABOUT THE PROCESSES IN WHICH YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE YOUR BULK TRASH PICKED UP.

DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A PICTURE OF MY NEIGHBOR'S DOOR, BUT IT WAS HANGING ON MY DOOR.

SO IT'S A BEAUTIFUL TOOL FOR, FOR RESIDENTS TO FIGURE THIS OUT.

HOW TO BACK BA, HOW TO BAG YOUR BULK TRASH, BUT BETTER YET, HOW TO GET IT PICKED UP.

SO, THANK YOU TOWN STAFF.

THANK YOU, DAN.

FINALLY, RANDY? YES, I HAVE.

OKAY, GO RIGHT AHEAD.

ALRIGHT, IF I CAN GET THE, UH, FIRE CHIEF TO COME TO THE FRONT, PLEASE.

I HAVEN'T EXACTLY FOUND IT, BUT I'LL HE'LL, HE WILL BE ABLE TO TELL ME IN THE FRIDAY REPORT.

HMM.

THERE'S A NATIONAL FIRE ACADEMY BUTTON PUSHING CLASS COMING UP.

, YOU ONLY TURN THAT MICROPHONE ON.

CJ.

HE WAS TRYING, HE WAS TRYING.

CJ ALEXANDER, YOUR FIRE CHIEF MAYOR.

COUNSEL, HOW MAY I HELP YOU? THANK YOU, SIR.

I CAN'T FIND THE NAME RIGHT NOW.

I HAD IT IN MY NOTES TO CALL THE FIREFIGHTER'S NAME IN THE FRIDAY REPORT.

I SEE WHERE THERE WAS SOME KIND OF AWARD, UM, NOMINATED.

A FIREFIGHTER WAS NOMINATED AFTER A FIRE AND A FIREFIGHTER WENT TO EXTRAORDINARY EFFORTS, UM, TO EASE THE GRIEVING OF A, OF A PERSON THAT LOST A PET IN AN ACCIDENT.

WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT IS THAT FIREFIGHTER? PHILIP HYDE.

SO ONE OF MY, ONE OF MY, THEY'RE ALL MY FAVORITE, BUT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS I'VE KNOWN FOR 15, 20 YEARS NOW.

PHILIP HYDE IS A GREAT, GREAT FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC THAT WE HAVE HERE.

HE'S ACTUALLY AN FTO, UH, TRAINS OUR NEW FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC.

SO HE'S A FANTASTIC ADD TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

HE'S BEEN RIGHT HERE NOW.

HE'S, HE'S BEEN EMPLOYED NOW HERE FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW.

I'D LIKE TO, UH, I WISHED HE WAS HERE.

I'D LIKE TO SHAKE HIS HAND.

THAT IS, PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND AND HE MUST BE A, A DOG GUY.

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IN MY CAREER AS A FIREFIGHTER, THE SADDEST THINGS I EVER HAD TO DEAL WITH WAS WHEN PEOPLE LOST A BELOVED PET IN A HOUSE FIRE OR AN ACCIDENT, AND THEY WEREN'T TREATED WITH RESPECT.

MR. HYDE WENT TO ABOVE AND BEYOND IN, IN TREATING THAT ANIMAL WITH RESPECT AND, AND GIVING THE, THE OWNER PARENT SOME COMFORT IN THAT.

AND I'D LIKE TO THANK HIM FOR THAT.

I WILL PASS ON YOUR MESSAGE.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? I HAD ONE MORE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

UH, QUICKLY, PLEASE.

WE'RE, IT WILL BE QUICK ON TIME HERE.

IT WILL BE QUICKLY.

BUT I, WHEN, WHEN OUR, WHEN OUR OFFICERS DO THINGS, CHIEF FREEZE, YOU HAD A, YOU HAD A, UH, OFFICER SOLVE A CASE, I BELIEVE HAVING TO DO WITH SOME, UH, IDENTITY THEFT AND WAS WAS PUT UP FOR SOME KIND OF REWARD.

SO WE'LL DO ITEM SIX A PRESENT AND DISCUSS THE WAY FINDING AND SIGNAGE MASTER PLAN.

BEING A VICTIM OF THAT CRIME IN THE PAST, I CAN TELL YOU THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST PERSONAL THINGS THAT YOU COULD EVER GO THROUGH.

AND WHEN YOU ARE A VICTIM OF THAT CRIME, YOU SOMETIMES THINK THAT OFFICERS DON'T CARE BECAUSE YOU DON'T THINK IT'S EVER GONNA HAPPEN.

THEY SAY, WE CAN'T FIND IT.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GIVE HIM TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF, WHAT IS THAT OFFICER'S NAME? I BELIEVE I'LL HAVE TO LOOK FOR, IT'S ONE OF OUR DETECTIVES.

UM, THINK DETECTIVE MARTINEZ.

I'D LIKE GIVE HIM SOME KUDOS FOR GOING TO THE EXTREME TO DO THAT.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY THAT, THAT, THAT'S A HORRIBLE CRIME.

AND IT'S, IT GOES BACK TO WHEN I WAS, WHAT I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT POLICING FOR, FOR QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE, THANK HIM FOR MAKING THAT MR. SIR.

PASSING ALONG.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THANK YOU, RANDY.

ALRIGHT, UH, I DO HAVE JUST ONE, UH, REAL BRIEF ONE.

THE, UH, LAST BRIEF.

HUH? YOU SAID BRIEF.

MM.

THANK I'M ALWAYS A BRIEF, YOU KNOW, THAT I LIKE SOME.

UM, LAST SATURDAY, UH, THERE WAS AN EVENT OVER AT, UH, HOTEL DAX, UH, THAT, UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY HAVING EVENTS OVER THERE AND, UH, IT'S PROBABLY WASN'T ON ANYBODY'S RADAR, BUT IT WAS A A DAY EVENT.

IT WASN'T AN OVERNIGHT THING, BUT A, A COMPANY IN TOWN CALLED SPIN SCI, WHICH IS A, AN AI UH, COMPANY.

A TECHNOLOGY COMPANY WORKING IN THE, HE IN THE HEALTHCARE SPACE, THEY'RE DOING REALLY GREAT WORK.

WE VISITED THEM, UM, A FEW MONTHS AGO AND FOR THE RIBBON CUTTING.

AND, UH, THEY HAD A HACKATHON OVER THERE.

SO THEY HAD, UH, THIS GROUP, THIS ROOM FULL OF, UH, THEY HAD 12 TEAMS OF PROBABLY 6, 7, 8 ON A TEAM OF REALLY, REALLY SMART YOUNG PEOPLE.

THEY CAME TOGETHER FOR THE DAY TO, YOU KNOW, EACH TEAM, THEY'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THEIR IDEAS FOR NEW TECHNOLOGY, NEW IDEAS, AND NEW, JUST BRAINSTORMING, DOING, GOING THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF ALL DAY LONG.

UH, THE TOP WINNER WAS WINNING.

UH, THE TEAM WON $5,000 FOR THE DAY, BUT THEY INVITED ME OVER TO WELCOME THEM AFTER THEIR BREAKFAST THAT MORNING.

AND, UH, IT WAS JUST REALLY, IT WAS REALLY GREAT TO SEE THESE YOUNG MINDS IN THERE.

AND I MEAN, I REALLY FELT NOT THAT SMART BEING IN THIS ROOM FULL OF REALLY SMART PEOPLE, BUT, UH, BUT I LOVE BEING AROUND IT AND SEEING THE ENERGY AND, AND JUST THINKING THAT, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING REALLY GREAT AND CHANGE THE WORLD.

SO THAT WAS EXCITING TO SEE THAT RIGHT HERE IN ADDISON.

SO, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS? ALRIGHT, WITH THAT ITEM, A REGULAR AGENDA IS OVER.

AND, UH, SO IF WE, I'D LIKE TO DO ONE OF THE TWO FINAL WORK SESSION ITEMS AND WE'LL PUSH ONE TO A, TO A LATER, UH, MEETING IF, IF COUNCIL'S OKAY WITH THAT.

AND IF WE'RE GONNA DO ONE, SHOULD WE DO THE, UH, WAY FINDING? WAY FINDING? OKAY.

[6.a. Present and discuss the Wayfinding and Signage Master Plan.]

AND THAT WILL BE BECKY.

IS THE COUNCIL OKAY WITH PUSHING ITEM SIX C TO THE, UH, TO A FUTURE MEETING? YES.

THANK YOU, BECKY.

WE CAN, UH, WORK TO IMPLEMENT THIS.

BECKY DIVINITY, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING.

TODAY, I HAVE ANOXIA MEHA WITH, UM, KIMBERLY HORN ASSOCIATES AND JEFF FRANK WITH CORBIN DESIGN WITH ME.

WE'RE GONNA ALL THREE BE GIVING THIS PRESENTATION, AND I'M EXCITED TO GIVE IT TO YOU TODAY.

THERE'S A LOT OF COOL STUFF WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU.

AND JEFF HAS BEEN ON AN AIRPLANE TRAVELING HERE ALL DAY TO GET HERE, AND HE CAN'T WAIT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

SO, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THE OVERVIEW OF THE PRESENTATION.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS TODAY.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE GREAT NOTES AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING YOUR FEEDBACK.

UM, WE WANNA GIVE YOU KIND OF A, A OVERVIEW OF THE BUDGET, UM, THE, THE PROCESS HIGHLIGHTS, TALK ABOUT WHAT WAY FINDING IS, WHY IS IT IMPORTANT, MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE SYSTEMS THAT WENT THROUGH THAT DESIGN PROCESS, UH, THE DOCUMENTATION ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, SOME CONCEPTUAL IDEAS FROM COST ESTIMATES AND PACKAGES THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER, UM, AS

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AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE NEXT STEPS.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO ALIGN WITH THAT KEY FOCUS AREA OF VIBRANT, ACTIVE, AND ENGAGED COMMUNITIES.

UM, THE INITIATIVE, 6.5 AIMS TO ENHANCE ADDISON'S GETAWAY OR GATEWAYS, UM, AND GETAWAYS, UH, VISUAL APPEARANCE OF STREETS SCAPES TO OPTIMIZE, OPTIMIZE ADDISON BRAND.

UM, WE DO, UH, WORK WITH THE ADDISON, UM, ADVANCED ADDISON 2025 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, WHICH A ADOPTS AND RECOMMENDS ADOPTION OF THE WAYFINDING SYSTEM PLAN.

AND THEN A LOT OF OUR EXISTING SIGNAGE.

AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE DIFFERENT PICTURES THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PRESENTATION THAT SHOW THAT THE SIGNAGE IS INCONSISTENT BOTH IN LOOK AND CONTENT.

UM, SOME OF IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED, UM, AND THEN ALSO MAYBE IT'S REACHED ITS, UH, USEFUL LIFE.

UM, THIS WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.

MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN WORK TOGETHER ON THIS EFFORT.

UM, AND SO I THINK ALL OF THEM FOR, UH, ALL OF THEIR HARD WORK AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SO, OVERVIEW OF THE BUDGET.

UM, FY 25, UH, BUDGET INCLUDED $248,000.

UM, THAT WAS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR KIMLEY HORN ASSOCIATES.

UM, IN THIS CASE, CORMAN DESIGN AS A SUBCONTRACTOR TO KIMLEY HORN ASSOCIATES THAT WAS FUNDED USING THE SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND AND THE HOTEL SPECIAL REVENUE FUND.

UM, FY 26, THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR WE'RE SITTING IN HAS ABOUT $790,000.

UM, YOU'LL SEE AT THE VERY END A PHASE ONE IMPLEMENTATION, UM, WHICH WE'RE RECOMMENDING, WHICH INCLUDES INSTALLATION OF 9 1 1 TRAIL MARKERS ON THREE OF OUR TRAILS.

UM, THAT FUNDING SOURCE WOULD BE THE HOTEL FUND, UM, THEN FY 27.

UM, RIGHT NOW THE ADOPTED BUDGET SHOWS $804,000.

UM, AND THAT IS FOR A PHASE TWO IMPLEMENTATION.

WE'LL GO THROUGH WHAT TYPES OF SIGNS THAT IS, UH, THOSE ARE AT THAT TIME.

AND THAT ALSO WOULD BE THE HOTEL, UH, SPECIAL PROJECTS, UH, REVENUE FUND, UM, THAT WOULD PAY FOR THAT.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO IGNACIO, LET HIM GO THROUGH SOME OF THE BACKGROUND, AND THEN HE'LL TURN IT OVER TO JEFF AND I'LL COME BACK TO CLOSE THIS UP.

LET ME GET OUT OF YOUR WAY.

THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU, BECKY.

AND AGAIN, GOOD AFTERNOON, AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING TIME TO, TO LISTEN TO THIS, UH, PRESENTATION.

I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE ALL NIGHT, BUT SOME OF YOU DON'T.

UH, SO, UM, AGAIN, I'M IGNACIO MEJIA WITH, UH, KIMLEY HORNER LOCAL OFFICE.

AND I, I'M GONNA HIT ON HIGH LEVEL THE KEY HIGHLIGHTS OF THE, UH, 10, UH, IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE OVER A YEAR, UH, PROJECT PROCESS, UH, THAT WE BEGAN IN, UH, EARLY OF JANUARY OF 25.

UM, WE BEGAN DOING A LOT OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, UNDERSTANDING, UH, UH, WHERE THESE SIGNS WOULD BE PLACED.

SO WE PREPARED EXHIBITS WITH UTILITIES UNDERSTANDING RIGHT AWAY.

AND AT THAT FIRST, UH, INITIAL, UH, PROJECT MEETING, WE WERE ABLE TO REVIEW SOME OF THOSE EXISTING CONDITIONS, UH, WHERE WE WERE INFORMED BASED ON THOSE EXHIBITS THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO KEEP THOSE CONCEPTS, UH, MORE VERTICAL.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE, BECAUSE DUE TO THE, UH, UH, VISIBILITY DUE TO YOUR GREAT, UH, STREETS WITH, UH, STREET TREES AND, AND ALSO AVAILABLE RIGHT AWAY.

SO, UM, WE REVIEWED THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, AND AS, UH, BECKY SAID, WE COORDINATED AT THOSE MEETINGS AND THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS WITH VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, UH, FROM PUBLIC WORKS, PARKS AND RECREATION, UH, WE HAD, UH, OUR MARKETING AND TOURISM THERE AND GENERAL, UM, SERVICES.

SO FOLLOWING THAT INITIAL, UH, MEETING FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT OF THE COMMUNITY, WE, UH, ALL GOT IN A VAN AND DID A TOUR OF THE, UH, TOWN OF ADDISON SO THAT WE COULD UNDERSTAND THOSE SKI ACCESS POINTS TO THE TOWN.

WHAT ARE THOSE SKI AREAS THAT PEOPLE AND VISITORS ARE, OR GOING THROUGH OR ACCESSING THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY? UM, WE, WE GOT AN UNDERSTANDING FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL CONTEXT.

UH, WE LOOKED FOR THOSE, UH, ELEMENTS THAT WE WANTED TO BUILD THOSE, UH, DESIGN CONCEPTS FROM.

AND, AND ONCE YOU SEE THESE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT SOME OF THOSE AREAS THAT WE DID PICK UP SOME OF THOSE KEY ELEMENTS AND, AND WE LOOKED AT THE PARKS.

WE, WE UNDERSTOOD THAT SOME PARKS WE WANTED TO, UH, PROVIDE MESSAGING, SIGNAGE FOR, AND SOME MORE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS.

WE WANTED TO KEEP MORE NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO YOU COULD SEE THAT SOME OF THOSE DIDN'T HAVE, UH, SPECIFIC, UH, UH, DESTINATIONS AND, AND NAMES.

BUT, UH, WE ALSO LOOKED AT ALL THE ART, VERY HEAVY IN, IN ART.

SO WE WANTED TO SEE THAT AND SEE IF THAT RESONATED WITH SOME OF THE CONCEPTS.

UH, AND AGAIN, THESE ARE SOME OF THE IMAGES FROM THAT KICKOFF, AND THEN JUST BEING IN THE, UH, THE TOUR.

UM, SO, SO ONCE, ONCE WE DEVELOPED SOME OF THOSE, UH, CONCEPTS WITH, UH, UH, ENGAGED WITH STAFF, WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, PREPARE, UH, UH, THOSE, UH, CONCEPTS AND, AND THEN

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THE, THE, THE KEY DIRECTION THAT WE WERE HEARING, WE WANNA MAINTAIN THAT BRAND, THAT ADDISON BRAND WITH THE COLOR, THE, THE, THE CIRCLE AND, AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT MESSAGING WAS, UH, CONSISTENT BECAUSE, UH, UH, PART OF THE, GOING THROUGH THE, THE TOUR, WE, WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THAT SOME OF THOSE RETAIL, UH, SIGNS ALMOST LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE PART OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON SIGNS.

AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS, THIS DISTINCT, UH, APPROACH WAS, WAS, UH, DEFINED.

UH, BUT, BUT TOWN SIGNAGE, UM, AGAIN, UM, WE TOOK, UH, THREE CONCEPTS TO YOUR SPRINGTOWN MEETING, UM, IN APRIL.

AND, UH, THOSE ARE THE, THE CONCEPTS THAT YOU SEE HERE.

UH, UH, THOSE ARE VERY CONCEPTUAL, ONE, TWO, AND THREE.

AND BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK, UM, OF, OF DOING, KEEPING IT A ONE POST, UH, SIGN, OPTION TWO WAS THE PREFERRED, UM, THEME.

UH, AGAIN, KEEPING THAT ADDISON, UM, UH, FOCUSED, UH, BRAND.

AND SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD IS WE WANTED TO HAVE DURABLE MATERIALS, UH, BECAUSE AS WE SAID EARLIER, SOME OF THE EXISTING SIGNS, THEY NOT, THEY, THEY DON'T SEEM CONSISTENT WITH MATERIALITY.

AND ALSO, UH, SOME OF THOSE ARE, ARE, UH, AGING IN PLACE.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD CONSISTENTLY BY, BY THE FEEDBACK AT THAT, UH, EVENT.

UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, THAT'S JUST A, AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS.

AGAIN, IT WAS ALL ENGAGED WITH, WITH KEY STAFF, THE SAME, UH, GROUP WE WERE, UH, HAVING, UH, TOUCH POINTS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AND ALWAYS ENGAGED AND BUILDING CONSENSUS.

AND NOW, UH, JEFF WILL GO THROUGH ON, ON JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THE PROCESS OF HOW WE GOT TO THE DETAILED CONCEPTS.

CAN WE ASK A QUESTION ON THIS SLIDE TO KEEP YOU GETTING BACK UP? SURE.

I SEE THE PRETTY LITTLE DOTS THAT EVERYBODY PUT ON HERE, BUT WAS THERE A SIGNIFICANT, WHAT, WHAT IS THE COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPTION ONE, TWO, AND THREE? WERE THEY, WERE THEY BASICALLY IN THE SAME, UH, INVESTMENT TYPE AREA? Y YES, SIR.

AND, AND, AND WE, AT THIS LEVEL, WE DIDN'T PREPARE LIKE A, LIKE A COST, YOU KNOW, ANALYSIS LIKE THIS ONE.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS.

YOU KNOW, THIS ONE LOOKS PRETTY, PUT A GREEN DOT ON IT, RIGHT? NO, THIS WAS JUST, JUST TRYING AND UNDERSTAND THE LOOK AND FEEL.

BUT, UH, AS FAR AS COST, OBVIOUSLY WITH WHAT, WITH LIKE THE, THE, THE SECOND ONE AND, AND PROBABLY EVEN THE THIRD, HAVING THE SINGLE, UH, COLUMN IS PROBABLY MORE MO MORE COST EFFECTIVE AS WELL LOOK.

SO AS LONG AS WE LOOKED AT THAT, THANK YOU.

YES, THANK YOU, BECKY IGNACIO.

HI, GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JEFF FRANK, REPRESENT CORBIN DESIGN.

I'M THE LEAD DESIGNER FOR THIS PROJECT.

I'M GONNA QUICKLY SHOW YOU SOME OF THESE SLIDES.

THIS IS SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE PRESENTED TO THE, UH, EARLY CORE TEAMS AND STAKEHOLDERS.

AND JUST WANNA BRIEF YOU AS TO WHAT WE PRESENT TO THEM.

WE DESCRIBE WAY FINDINGS FOR DIRECTION FOR PEOPLE IN MOTION.

IT'S JUST OUR DEFINITION, BUT WAY FINDING IS REALLY FOR US IS PROVIDING INFORMATION TO YOUR VISITORS WHEN THEY NEED IT AND WHERE THEY NEED IT.

IT, A WAYFINDING SYSTEM IS A UTILITY.

IT HAS TO DIRECT AND INFORM.

IT CAN CREATE AWARENESS OF OTHER DESTINATIONS AND AREAS, BUT IT FUNCTIONS AS, AS A UTILITY, BUT IT BEHAVES LIKE A BRAND.

UM, IT CAN CONTRIBUTE TO A SENSE OF PLACE, AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND THIS IS A COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT.

UM, I DUNNO IF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN TO PLANO, FRISCO, FORT WORTH, ALL THOSE AREAS HAVE WAY FINDING SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED FOR THEM AS WELL.

WE KNOW YOUR VISITORS HAVE A CHOICE.

WE WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT WHEN THEY MAKE THIS CHOICE HERE AND THE, THE POSITIVE ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS THAT THEY'RE ATTENDING HERE, THEY WANNA ATTRIBUTE TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON.

SO WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US IS IT NEEDS TO REFLECT, UH, THE TOWN'S CURRENT BRAND.

WE HAVE A, YOU HAVE A STRONG BRAND IDENTITY.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE REPRESENT THAT THROUGH THIS WAVE.

FINDING SIGNAGE FROM THE GATEWAYS AND BOUNDARIES ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

UH, THAT'LL CREATE A CONSISTENT SERIES OF SIGN TYPES AND THERE'LL BE A, A, A COMFORT LEVEL FOR YOUR VISITORS TO USE THOSE.

UH, WE THINK ABOUT A LOT, A LOT LIKE A, UM, A CURATED EXPERIENCE FOR YOUR VISITORS.

NOT JUST, UM, WELCOME TO THE CITY, BUT HERE, HERE ARE DESTINATIONS AND AREAS WHERE WE WANT TO DRIVE YOU.

WE WANNA CREATE, UM, UH, TRAFFIC AND, AND ENCOURAGE BUSINESS.

WE'RE GONNA DO THAT THROUGH UNIFYING SYSTEM OR USING, UTILIZING A SYSTEM ASSIGNED TYPES.

I'LL SHOW YOU AN ARRAY IN A MOMENT.

SO THIS IS A, A SPECTRUM OF SIGN TYPES.

THINK OF AS TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX.

THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF THEM, AND THEY COVER A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, SPECIFIC NEEDS.

WE STARTED THE BOUNDARIES.

YOU DO HAVE EXISTING SIGNS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, AND SOME OF THOSE ARE RELATIVELY NEW.

SO WE'VE COORDINATED OUR DESIGN TO MATCH THOSE, MATCH, COORDINATE WITH THOSE SO THEY CAN COEXIST WITH ONE ANOTHER.

THAT WAY YOU CAN TRANSITION FROM WHAT YOU HAVE NOW TO THE, TO THE SYSTEM THAT WILL NOW LAST YOU THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS.

NOT ONLY IN TERMS OF MATERIALS FINISHES AND DURABILITY, BUT ALSO MODULARITY, CHANGEABILITY AS THINGS GROW AND EXPAND, PANELS CAN BE CHANGED.

THERE'LL BE, UH, I'LL SHOW YOU, UM, THE FLEXIBILITY IN THE DESIGN THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT AND CARRY IT THIS SYSTEM THROUGH THE NEXT 10 TO 20

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YEARS.

THE FIRST THINGS THAT ARE GONNA GO ON THIS ARE GONNA BE PAINTS AND FINISHES.

IT WON'T BE THE STRUCTURES THEMSELVES.

SO OVER TIME, AS THINGS ARE UPDATED AND REPAIRED AND REPLACED OR EXPANDED ON, HOPEFULLY THIS SYSTEM WILL, WILL LIVE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF THE CURRENT SIGNS.

I THINK BECKY TOUCHED ON THIS.

SOME OF THESE SIGNS ARE COMING TO THE END OF THEIR SERVICE LIFE SIGNS ARE FADED AND THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED.

UM, ALSO DESIGN-WISE, THERE ARE SOME LEGIBILITY ISSUES IN TERMS OF COPY, HEIGHT, LEGIBILITY.

WE WANT TO CORRECT ALL OF THAT WITH A BRAND, BRAND NEW SYSTEM.

SO IT STARTS WITH, FOR US, UM, IMPROVING IDENTIFICATION.

WE WANT TO, UH, LOOK AT THE EXISTING GATEWAYS THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW, AND THEN ADD SOME ADDITIONAL WELCOME SIGNS.

THESE SIGNS WILL VARY IN SIZE, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT SPACE IS AVAILABLE.

BUT WE'RE SHOWING, AND I'LL FORGIVE THIS LITTLE TINY IMAGE, THERE'S A BIGGER IMAGE LATER ON, AND I'LL SHOW YOU AND I'LL, I'LL TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT THAT IN DETAIL.

UH, THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THESE SIGNS IS THAT COULD BE PHASED IN.

SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT COSTS AND PHASING, WE CAN DECIDE WHERE TO AND PRIORITIZE THE LOCATIONS FOR THE BIGGEST IMPACT.

UH, WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT SIGNS AND DESIGN, BUT WHAT, WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THIS SYSTEM IS THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING A WAY, FINDING LOGIC.

THAT'S THE STRATEGIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, TO HELP PEOPLE NAVIGATE THE CITY.

SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? UM, WE'RE GOING TO USE, WE CALL A COMBINATION WAYFINDING.

SO WE'RE USING, UM, SORT OF MERGING TWO THINGS.

YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH DISTRICTS.

THERE'S DOWNTOWNS, THERE'S AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

IN THIS CASE, WE'VE GOT TWO CENTRALIZED, WE CALL THEM CENTERS OF ACTIVITY.

WE'VE GOT THE CIRCLE DISTRICT, AND WE'VE GOT THE BELTLINE CORRIDOR.

SO WE'RE DRIVING, AND THAT'S WHERE MAJORITY OF VISITORS ARE GOING.

SO HOW DO WE CONNECT THOSE AREAS AND HOW DO WE GET VISITORS FROM THOSE AREAS TO THE OTHER DESTINATIONS THEY MAY NOT BE OR HAVE LESS AWARENESS OF? SO IN THOSE CASES, WE'LL BE DIRECTING TO THOSE INDIVIDUALLY, LIKE, LIKE VITRUVIAN PARK AND THAT AREA DOWN THERE THAT WILL GET ITS OWN DESTINATION RATHER THAN BEING CLUSTERED INTO A DISTRICT.

THIS WILL GIVE THAT AREA TIME TO GROW.

POTENTIALLY IT BE, COULD BECOME AS BIG AND AS AS, UM, HIGHLY DENSE WITH DESTINATIONS AS THE BELTLINE OR THE CIRCLE DISTRICT.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, UH, WE'RE STILL INCORPORATING THAT.

UH, THIS SYSTEM IS A, FORGIVE ME IF I DIDN'T SAY THIS, IT'S A VEHICULAR AND, AND PEDESTRIAN.

SO WE WANNA GET PEOPLE AROUND THE CITY, UH, THROUGH, UH, NORTH AND SOUTH FROM VITRUVIAN UP TO, UM, QUORUM PARK IN THE NORTH, UH, AND EVERYWHERE IN BETWEEN.

AND THEN THE IDEA IS WE WANNA TRANSFER, UH, TRANSITION THEM INTO A PEDESTRIAN, GET THEM ON FOOT, HOPEFULLY KEEP THEM ON FOOT EXPERIENCE IN DESTINATIONS, WALKING, PARTICIPATING IN BUSINESSES, UM, WITH THAT STRONG LOGIC.

THAT MEANS WE WANT TO, THIS IS KIND OF THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH, WHAT THE SIGNS SAY, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA GO IS PART OF THIS AS WELL.

BUT UNDERSTANDING, UM, METHODOLOGY BESIDE BEHIND THE MESSAGING HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VISUALS WILL LOOK LIKE.

SO WE DIDN'T JUST JUMP TO THOSE.

WE, HOW BIG THE SIGNS NEED TO BE, WHAT MESSAGES NEED TO BE ON THERE.

WE WANTED TO BE REALLY, UM, AWARE OF WHAT WE WERE DESIGNING BECAUSE THAT REALLY DOES AFFECT THE COST.

SO WE PREPARED SKETCHES.

UM, THIS IS BASED ON OTHER SIGN TYPES, SIMILAR.

UH, THEY'RE BASED ON ROAD SPEED, POSITION, SIGN, TYPE IN USE, UM, AND, UH, THE TYPE OF VISIT WE'RE TRYING TO APPEAL TO PEDESTRIAN OR VEHICULAR.

SO DURING THE, THE, UH, TOWN HALL MEETING, WE HAVE GREAT RESPONSE.

WE HAD A TON OF PEOPLE COME BY OUR STATION.

THEY ASKED A BUNCH OF REALLY GREAT QUESTIONS.

UM, BUT THEY DID HAVE A, A, AN ELEMENT THEY REALLY LIKED.

AND IT WAS, WE EXPANDED THAT OUT INTO THIS ARRAY HERE.

LET ME JUST JUMP FORWARD HERE REALLY QUICKLY.

JUST, I'M GONNA STOP ON THIS FOR A SECOND.

THIS REALLY SHOWS THAT COMPLEXITY OF THE SIGN TYPES THAT ARE NEEDED IN THE ARRAY.

BUT I'M GONNA JUMP FORWARD SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE DESIGN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

THE ONE THING THEY REALLY LIKED WAS THE CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY.

THESE ARE COMPLETELY CUSTOM SIGNS.

AND WHEN I SAY, UM, I SAY SIGNS KIND OF, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA SEE MORE SIGNS.

AND THEN NO ONE WAS, WE WANNA SEE FEWER, BETTER SIGNS.

AND IN THIS CASE, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE ELEVATED WHAT WOULD BE A UTILITY TYPE SIGN AND CREATED SOMETHING THAT IS ARTISTIC, SCULPT SCULPTURAL UNIQUE, UM, THAT WOULD BE RECOGNIZABLE AND MEMORABLE FOR FOLKS THAT COME TO VISIT.

IN FACT, WE'RE EVEN HOPING THAT, UM, THESE ARE THE TYPE OF SIGNS THAT SHOW UP IN PHOTOGRAPHS, BACKGROUNDS, YOU KNOW, UM, PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT SIGN.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE TIED IT TO SPECIFIC ELEMENTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THE IDEA OF THE SCULPTURAL COMPONENT COMES FROM THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE THIS AMAZING BLUEPRINT SCULPTURE.

HOW DO WE TAKE, WE DON'T WANNA COPY THAT, BUT HOW DO WE, HOW CAN WE BE INSPIRED BY THAT? AND THEN MERGE YOUR BRANDING INTO IT AS WELL.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THIS REALLY STRONG CURVE ELEMENT.

EVERYONE DOES POSTS, STRAIGHT UP POSTS, AND D LET'S DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, MORE UNIQUE.

UM, THE IDEA OF ABOUT SURROUNDING AND HAVING THE, THE SORT OF MEDALLION OF THE ADDISON LOGO INSET INTO A, INTO

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A STRUCTURE ALLOWED US TO BRING IN MORE INSPIRATION FROM THE BLUEPRINTS.

SO THAT KIND OF FRAMING THAT INSIDE THAT KIND OF SCROLL WORK THAT YOU'RE SEEING, THAT'S ACTUALLY A, UH, IT'S A CITY STREET GRID.

SO IT'S, UH, ROADS AND STREETS THAT MAKE UP, UH, UM, ADDISON.

AND IT SUPERPOSES A FRAME THAT KIND OF HOLDS THAT ICON IN THE CENTER.

AND THAT, AGAIN, IS INSPIRED DIRECTLY FROM THE BLUEPRINTS.

SO THIS IS, UH, OUR THOUGHTS ON THE GATEWAY SIGNS TO THE LEFT IS YOUR EXISTING ONE TO THE RIGHT WOULD BE THE NEW ONE.

THEY COEXIST WITH EACH OTHER IN THAT, AND THERE'S A BALANCE HERE AS WELL.

THE ONE ON THE LEFT HAS STONE AND MASONRY ELEMENTS.

THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS, UM, WOULD BE A STRUCTURAL ELEMENT, METAL, STEEL OR ALUMINUM PAINTED.

UM, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH A LARGER STONE MONUMENT, SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE AFFORDABLE TO PUT IN AT LOCATIONS.

IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T PUT SOME OTHER STONE MONUMENTS IN SOME LOCATIONS THAT WARRANT IT, BUT THERE IS A BALANCE HERE WITH THE COST TOO, FROM THE VEHICULAR SIDE.

UM, WE'VE GOT, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THAT MODULARITY, THAT CHANGEABILITY.

SO THE PANELS, OR IF THIS LASER WORKS, PROBABLY NOT THE, UM, THOSE INDIVIDUAL PANELS ON THE, UM, TWO SIGNS ON THE, THE G ONE AND THE G TWO.

THOSE ARE INDEPENDENTLY CHANGEABLE.

SO AS DESTINATIONS CHANGE IN THE FUTURE, OR IF THERE'S DAMAGE, THOSE CAN BE REPLACED AND UPDATED INDIVIDUALLY RATHER THAN THE ENTIRE FACE.

THESE SIGNS ARE SCALED FOR ROAD SPEED.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S VARIATIONS IN THE COPY HEIGHT, AND THAT IS SO THAT THOSE SIGNS ARE VISIBLE.

UH, DEPENDING ON YOU'RE GOING SLOWER ROAD SPEEDS BELOW 25 MILE PER, PER MILE MILES PER HOUR FOR G ONE ALL THE WAY UP TO HIGHER ROAD SPEEDS FOR THE G THREE SIGNS.

UM, THOSE ARE GONNA BE DICTATED BY DOT AS WELL.

WE FOLLOW THEIR STANDARDS FOR LEGIBILITY.

SO THERE'S A CONSISTENCY BETWEEN WHEN THEY EXIT THE HIGHWAY AND THEY COME INTO TOWN AND THEY SEE A DOT SIGNS, AND THEN THEY WAIT WHEN THEY SEE THESE SIGNS.

UM, THESE SIGNS WILL ALSO BE FULL FACE REFLECTIVE, JUST LIKE THE DOT SIGNS AS WELL.

SO THEY'RE VISIBLE AT NIGHT TOO.

TWO SIGN TYPES ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE ARE, ARE UTILITY SIGNS FOR INTERNALLY.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE SHOWING STUFF LIKE, UM, THE ATHLETIC CLUB.

THESE ARE MUCH LOWER COST.

THEY USE A TYPICAL, YOU WOULD SEE, UM, COMMUNITY WAY FINDING SIGNS THAT ARE ON THE, WE CALL 'EM UNIS STRUTS.

THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO THE GALVANIZED POLES WITH ALL THE HOLES IN IT, VERY LOW COST, BUT THE DESIGNS FOR THE SIGNS THEMSELVES STILL MATCH THE SYSTEM.

SO THERE'S A CONSISTENCY TO THOSE TWO.

SO KEEPING THOSE VERY LOW COST.

THE NEXT ELEMENT IN THE SYSTEM IS THE PEDESTRIAN KIOSKS.

THIS IS ANOTHER EXERCISE THAT WE TOOK TO LOOK AT HOW PEOPLE MOVE AROUND THE CITY, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO SEE AND WHERE WE COULD BEST LOCATE THESE.

THESE KIOSKS WOULD, AND I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THESE FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES, THEY HAVE A MAP WITH A UR HERE.

UM, CONTENT IS ALL TO BE DETERMINED ON THOSE MAPS.

UM, BUT IT COULD HAVE LIST OF BUSINESSES THAT COULD HAVE MERCHANT DIRECTORIES, UM, COULD HAVE WALKING DISTANCES, COULD HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE PARKS TO SHOW WHERE THOSE ARE AT.

THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT OPPORTUNITIES HERE.

UH, WE HAVE A STATIC VERSION, THIS K ONE, THE FIRST ONE ON THE LEFT, BUT THE ONE NEXT TO IT IS A DIGITAL VERSION.

WE'VE BEEN INSTALLING SOME OF THOSE RECENTLY IN OUR COMMUNITIES TO ALLOW YOU TO PRESENT INFORMATION OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC PROMOTING ACTIVITIES, EVENTS, IN CASE IF THERE, EVEN IF THERE'S EMERGENCY, THOSE COULD BE DISPLAY INFORMATION AS WELL.

AND THEN ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE, WE HAVE A SMALLER VERSION THAT HAS SOME DIRECTIONAL INFORMATION ABOVE.

ON THE TOP, THERE'S SOME GUIDE INFORMATION UP THERE WITH WALKING DISTANCE IN MINUTES.

SO IF SOMEONE'S STANDING IN FRONT OF THE KIOSK, SOMEONE ELSE CAN BE FINDING OUT WHERE A PARK IS OR, UM, FINDING OUT WHERE THE THE DART STATION IS FROM THERE.

AND, AND UNDERSTANDING THE DISTANCE.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO PULL THEIR PHONE OUT EVERY TIME.

TECHNOLOGY IS AMAZING AND WE ALL USE IT.

BUT IN, UH, CITY WAVE FINDING SYSTEMS, WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO FOLLOW THE WAVE, FINDING SIGNS WITHOUT HAVING TO PULL YOUR PHONE OUT SO THAT YOUR EYES ARE ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT BUSINESSES, YOU'RE FINDING YOUR WAY AROUND.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE HERE TO EXPERIENCE THE TRUE, THE TRUE CULTURE AND AND ENVIRONMENT.

WE ALSO DID, UH, CREATE A MATCHING PARKING SYSTEM, UM, TO REPLACE THE EXISTING ONE YOU HAVE DOWNTOWN TO MATCH THE SYSTEM.

UH, WE WENT WITH THE GREEN CIRCLE HERE BECAUSE THE, IN MOST CITIES WE SEE A BLUE CIRCLE P BUT WE WENT WITH GREEN HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T CONFUSING THAT WITH THE ADDISON LOGO, WE DID INCLUDE A, UM, TRAIL LOCATION 9 1 1 MARKER SIGN.

I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE, UM, BENEFITS OF HAVING A STRONG DESIGN ELEMENTS IN THE, UH, IN YOUR CORE SYSTEM, IS THAT THOSE ELEMENTS CAN BE COMMUNICATED THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE REST OF YOUR, UH, SORT OF ANCILLARY AND SUPPORT SYSTEMS. SO IN A TRAIL SYSTEM LIKE THIS, THE DESIGN CAN CARRY THROUGH THE BLUES, THE GRAYS, THE, THE, THE CURVED, UH, RADIUS AT THE BOTTOM.

'CAUSE ONCE YOU'VE SEEN THAT A NUMBER OF TIMES WHEN YOU COME IN VEHICULAR AND, AND, AND GATEWAY SIGNS, YOU'RE GONNA RECOGNIZE THE SIGN EVEN FROM A DISTANCE, THE SHAPE, THE SILHOUETTE, THE COLOR, EVEN IF I CAN'T READ IT.

OH, I KNOW THAT'S PART OF THE ADDISON'S WAYFINDING SYSTEM.

UH, THEY MUST BE TRYING TO TELL ME SOMETHING HERE.

AND WE DID DO SOME FUN STUFF.

SO, UH, THIS IS A,

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UH, WE'RE CALLING IT A LANDMARK SIGN, SOME PEOPLE CALLED SELFIE SIGNS.

UH, THIS IS A MOVABLE IDEN IDENTITY THAT COULD BE, UH, UM, TRANSITIONED FROM, FROM PARK AND OPEN SPACES.

IT CAN MOVE AROUND TO FOLLOW SOME OF YOUR EVENTS.

UH, WE WANTED TO CREATE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO GO AND GET THEIR PICTURE.

AGAIN, RECOGNIZE THE POSITIVE EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE IN ADDISON.

UH, WE DID SOMETHING UNIQUE HERE.

YOU SEE THESE A LOT.

ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU SEE THE I LOVE AND THE SYMBOLS.

UH, WE WANTED TO ADD SOME, UM, VARIATION TO THIS, THIS DESIGN.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT A HAS A, UM, KINDA A SILVER FRAME AND THEN THERE'S A BLUE INSET.

THIS ALLOWS THE INSERT PANELS OF ALL OF THOSE LETTERS TO BE CHANGED OUT.

SO THAT MEANS YOU COULD DO CUSTOM ART, SOMEONE CAN DO AN INSTALLATION WHERE EACH ONE OF THOSE IS A CUSTOM PIECE OF ART THAT FITS ON THAT PANEL.

UM, YOU CAN CHANGE THE COLORS PER DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES OR MONTHS OR SEASONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

UH, WE EVEN LAUGHED AND SAID YOU COULD PUT, YOU COULD GO CRAZY AND PUT FUNNY FUR IN FRONT OF ALL THOSE AND FOR A CRAZY KIDS EVENT IF YOU WANTED TO.

SO IT ALLOWS THAT INSET PANEL TO BE ALMOST WHATEVER YOU WANT.

SO AGAIN, THE IDEA OF THE SYSTEM GROWING AND EXPANDING WITH YOU OVER TIME.

WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT MODULARITY AND IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE.

WE DID ALSO LOOK AT THIS BUILDING AND THIS CAMPUS AS WELL.

SO HOW DO WE FOLD IN THE IDENTITY FOR GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS TO AGAIN, MATCH OUR SYSTEM? SO THE IDEA OF BRINGING IN THE, THE BLUE AND THE RADIUS AND MATCHING UP OUR FONTS TO BE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD.

I SHOWED YOU A LOT OF VISUALS, BUT JUST TO KNOW, KNOW THAT BEHIND THAT IS ALL OF THE HOMEWORK.

SO WE'VE PLOTTED EVERY, EVERY SINGLE LOCATION, WE'VE PROGRAMMED EVERY SIGN, WE'VE PUT EVERY MESSAGING ON EVERY MESSAGE ON THERE.

WE'VE DETERMINE WHICH SIGN TYPE GOES, WHERE WE HAVE A FULL MASTER PLAN OF ALL THE SIGN TYPES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

THIS ALLOWS US NOW TO DECIDE, LOOK AT BUDGETING, TALK ABOUT PHASING.

AND IF WE SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO, UM, SPEND THIS OR SPEND THIS, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING FULL WAYFINDING PHASES IN.

WHAT OUR CONCERN WOULD BE IS, UM, WE'D WANNA PUT IN JUST A NUMBER OF VEHICULAR SIGNS THAT DON'T ALL WORK TOGETHER.

THEY HAVE TO BE A PHASE, THEY HAVE TO BE FUNCTIONAL.

THE PEDESTRIAN SIGNS.

WE HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY, BUT AGAIN, WE WANNA COVER THOSE HIGH DENSITY AREA.

WE WANT THIS, UH, WE'RE ALWAYS INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT THE FIRST PHASE IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PHASE AND EVERYBODY LOVES IT BECAUSE THAT ENSURES US THAT GROWTH AND EXPANSION, UH, FOR THE SUBSEQUENT PHASES.

I SPOKE REALLY QUICKLY HERE.

I APOLOGIZE.

I I I WANNA BE AWARE OF EVERYONE'S TIME.

I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK AND COVER ANY, ANYTHING ELSE OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

YES SIR.

OH, OKAY.

WHO'S GOING? SNELL, I THINK YOU'RE UP FOR THERE.

HI.

THE SAME THING FOR THESE SIGNS, NOTHING DIFFERENT.

HI.

UM, SO NUMBER ONE, LOVE THE BRANDING.

NUMBER TWO, BECKY.

UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, DOING THESE SIGNS, TELL ME, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE MAINTENANCE COSTS WOULD BE FOR THESE? HOW MUCH MONEY? 'CAUSE HE, HE MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION THAT SOME OF OUR SIGNS CURRENTLY ARE FADED AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE IN THE FUTURE, I MEAN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING OVER A MILLION DOLLARS NOW, BUT HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST ON THE ANNUAL BASIS FOR THE MAINTENANCE? SURE.

SO, UM, THE CURRENT PLAN, AND I CAN GO THROUGH KIND OF THIS OVERALL COST ESTIMATE SO THAT Y'ALL CAN KINDA UNDERSTAND THE OVERVIEW.

UM, CURRENTLY SIGNS VARY ANYWHERE FROM A HUNDRED TO $500 TO BE REPLACED DEPENDING ON WHICH SIGN IT IS.

THE MAINTENANCE ON THESE SIGNS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IS THAT THEY'RE EXPECTED TO LIVE FOR 10 TO 20 YEARS AND THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK IN UNTIL AFTER A 20 YEAR TYPICAL TIMEFRAME, THE WARRANTY FOR THE PAINTS THAT FINISHES IS SEVEN TO 10 YEARS.

SO AFTER THAT, THERE WOULD BE REFINISHING.

UM, AND THE YEARLY MAINTENANCE ON THAT, SORRY, THE YEARLY MAINTENANCE ON THAT, WE GENERALLY REQUIRE OR UM, ASK COMMUNITIES.

THERE IS A, UM, TO CLEAN AND WASH AND WAX THE SIGNS.

SO A CONTRACT WITH A SIGNED FABRICATOR THAT EXTENDS THE LIFE OF ALL THOSE FINISHES.

SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A MAINTENANCE PER YEAR, BUT UM, THAT'S RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS UNTIL I KIND OF WILL HAVE TO PRICE IT AGAINST THE ENTIRE QUANTITY HERE.

UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT FOR THE, PROBABLY FOR SEVEN TO 10 YEARS.

AND THEN THERE WOULD BE AN, A REFINISHING COST FROM THERE.

YEAH, THANKS.

TO ADD TO THAT POINT, THE SEVEN TO 10 YEARS, BUT YET YOU'RE LISTING A 20 YEAR MARKER.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY EROSION OF THE METAL ITSELF IS 20 YEARS LIKE YOU S SEE WITH STREETLIGHTS.

YEAH, THE STRUCTURES THEMSELVES, SO STRUCTURES THEMSELVES ARE ALUMINUM OR STEEL.

THOSE WOULD LAST, THEY'RE GONNA LAST ALMOST INDEFINITELY UNLESS THEY'RE DAMAGED.

WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE GOT ALMOST 30 YEAR PLUS YEARS ON SOME STRUCTURES.

WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY HAVE TO BE TAKEN DOWN, SANDBLASTED, REFINISHED, GRAPHICS APPLIED, AND AS LONG AS THE BASES AND NOTHING'S BEEN ERODED OR DAMAGED, THOSE SIGNS CAN, YOU KNOW, LIVE QUITE A, YEAH.

SO BECKY, TO THE POINT OF LIKE OUR FIRE HYDRANTS, WE PAINT THOSE FIRE HYDRANTS WITH THE REFLECTIVE BLUE AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S AN ANNUAL ROTATIONAL THING.

IT WOULD BE

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SO THEN THAT WOULD BE A PART OF AN OVERALL MAINTENANCE BUDGET THAT WE WOULD PREPARE.

SO I DIDN'T SEE IT IN ONE OF THE PHOTOS ON ONE OF THE SLIDES, THE OLD, THE OLD TOWN OF ADDISON SIGNAGE THAT'S AT INWOOD AND BELTLINE ON THAT CORNER, THE OLD BRICK THAT WASN'T PICTURED IN THERE.

BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS TO COME DOWN IS TAKE OUT THE OLD AND PRIORITIZING CORRECT.

AS A PART OF THE PROCESS.

IT WILL BE TO DEMOLISH AND DEMO THE EXISTING SIGNS IN THE LOCATION.

SO IN THE OVERALL PLAN, THERE IS ACTUALLY A SIGN WITH A LOCATION OF EVERY SINGLE SIGN THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT THROUGHOUT TOWN.

SO WE WOULD BE REMOVING ANY, ANY AND EVERY SIGN.

AND IN SOME CASES SOME MAY BE MORE AS WE WOULD CALL SIGN CLUTTER.

THERE MAY BE TWO OR THREE SIGNS THAT ARE TRYING TO SAY THE SAME THING THAT WE WOULD BE REDUCING TO ONE SIGN IN THAT AREA TO BE ABLE TO HAVE NOT ONLY THE IMAGE AND KIND OF THAT OVERALL WAY FINDING, BUT THEN ALSO MAKE IT WHERE ALL THE INFORMATION IS LOCATED IN ONE PLACE.

SO THEN MY LAST QUESTION I'LL LET YOU GO IS, UM, UH, PARKS WE'RE, WE'RE SO BIG ON OUR PARKS AND THEY'RE SO BEAUTIFUL, UM, AND WE WANT VISITATION TO THOSE PARKS AND USAGE READING TRAIL OR YOU KNOW, CELESTIAL.

WILL THERE BE CALL OUTS, I'M ASSUMING TO GET TO THOSE PARKS FROM ONE SIDE OF BELTLINE, LET'S SAY, TO GET TO THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN TO GO TO CELESTIAL PARK OR NOT, OR WINDWOOD PARK.

SO ON THOSE OVERALL, I CAN LET YOU ANSWER THAT .

SO, UM, THE PEDESTRIAN KIOSKS WOULD HAVE A MAP OF THE CITY WOULD IDENTIFY ALL THE PARKS.

INCLUDING, INCLUDING LOCATIONS.

ABSOLUTELY.

I'M DONE CHRIS.

WELL, SO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR WAITING.

I KNOW THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE WORK SESSION, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WITH US.

UM, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE CONNECTIVITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND NOW INTRODUCING THE SIGNAGE.

I I THINK THAT JUST MAKES IT SO MUCH BETTER.

UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HAVE, ARE WE APPROVING THE LOCATIONS TONIGHT AS WELL OR IS THIS MORE LIKE THE CONCEPT THAN DESIGN? SO TONIGHT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, BECAUSE IT IS A WORK SESSION, UM, I WILL GO THROUGH KIND OF THE OVERALL PACKAGING THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING BASED ON THE EXPERTISE OF NOT ONLY THIS TEAM, BUT THEN ALSO THE WAY WE'D LIKE TO PACKAGE IT UP BASED ON THE BUDGETING NUMBER.

AND THEN SECONDLY, WE WILL TALK TO YOU, UM, ABOUT BRINGING THIS FORWARD AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING FOR ADOPTION.

'CAUSE THIS IS A PLAN, SO IT NEEDS TO BE ADOPTED.

AND THEN FROM THERE, UM, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY, I'LL JUST DO THIS SLIDE SO I CAN EXPLAIN IT.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM YOU AND THEN BRING THIS FORWARD AS AN OVERALL MASTER PLAN FOR ADOPTION AT THE FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING.

AND IF YOU'RE READY, WE'LL BE AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WITH THIS ADOPTION.

UM, THIS PACKAGE IS ALREADY PREPARED WITH THAT OVERALL PLAN, IT HAS SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED FOR 9 1 1 MARKERS.

UM, BUT IT IS READY, IT IS BID READY.

THE SPECIFICATIONS ARE READY, WE'RE READY TO GO TO, UM, TO GO TO THE BID PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO START THIS PROCESS.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'S ALL A PART OF THE PLAN.

UM, AND SO THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW, UM, SEVERAL, I THINK, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY PAGES, BUT A, A THICK DOCUMENT THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AS BACKUP AS A PART OF THE OVERALL, UH, COUNCIL PACKET.

OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

OF COURSE.

SO I, I'M, I'M JUST GUESSING WE CAN COME BACK ONCE THE DART TRAIL IS COMPLETE THAT 26 MILES AND, AND PUT WELCOME TO ADDISON AND DIRECTIONAL, YOU KNOW, SIGNAGE THAT SAYS, HEY, ENTERTAINMENT THIS WAY, OR BELTLINE CORRIDOR THIS WAY OR SOMETHING.

'CAUSE THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN HERE RIGHT NOW.

THOSE LOCATIONS 'CAUSE THEY DON'T EXIST.

I MEAN I GET THAT.

ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT SIGNS FIRST, AND THEN PHASE TWO WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

AND AS TIME MOVES ON, WE'RE BASICALLY SETTING THE FOUNDATION AND THE GROUNDWORK FOR THIS IS WHAT THE SIGN WILL LOOK LIKE.

WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, JUST LIKE JEFF MENTIONED, EVEN WITH VITRUVIAN AS IT EXPANDS AND MAYBE THERE'S MORE DESTINATIONS WE WANT FOLKS TO SEE DOWN THERE HAVING ADDITIONAL AREAS TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU TO GO TO VITRUVIAN.

JUST LIKE ON REDDING, JUST LIKE ON WHITE ROCK.

SO WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND, UM, THE OVERALL COST ESTIMATE.

AND I'LL TAKE THE CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THIS NOW.

UM, WITH THE PHASING THAT WE HAVE, THAT PHASE ONE WOULD INCLUDE THE WELCOME AND ID SIGNS, THE TOWN HALL, UH, TOWN HALL AND LANDMARK SIGNS, THE PEDESTRIAN WAY, FINDING SIGNS, AND THEN THE TRAIL PLAN AND 9 1 1 MARKERS.

UM, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY A LITTLE OVER $750,000.

AND THIS IS A, A COST ESTIMATE? IT'S A BUDGETARY NUMBER.

UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT $789,000 AVAILABLE, UM, THIS YEAR.

AND THEN IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD GO BE TO DO ALL THE VEHICULAR AND PARKING SIGNS.

THAT'S ABOUT 600,000.

WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 800,000 CURRENTLY SET ASIDE FOR FY 27.

THERE IS A COST, UM, ESCALATION THAT'S ANTICIPATED AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS FABRICATION, BUT THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION, HOW TO BUNDLE THEM UP AND PACKAGE THEM FROM A BIDDING PROCESS.

ALSO, TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WORKING THROUGH PHASE ONE, WHICH WE FILL

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AND SO, UM, TO YOUR POINT THAT THIS WOULD GET US THROUGH 26, 27 AND INTO 28 AS WE WORK THROUGH CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN AS THINGS COME ON BOARD, WE WOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADD THOSE ADDITIONAL ASSETS TO THE OVERALL SIGN PROGRAM.

SO JUST ON THE PLAN ITSELF, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

I MEAN, I, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WITH LIKE CORRIDORS AND DISTRICTS, BUT I, I, I THINK ABOUT SOMEONE WHO'S NEVER BEEN TO ADDISON AND IS AND IS DRIVING AND IF, IF YOU POINT THEM TO THE BELTLINE CORRIDOR OR BELTLINE DISTRICT, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU LIVE IN THE AREA, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE OUR 200 RESTAURANTS ARE AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF ENTERTAINMENT THERE.

SO I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR THOUGHT ON, ON WAY FINDING AND DIRECTIONAL FINDING AND AND HOW WOULD YOU ? SORRY.

UM, ABSOLUTELY.

SO THIS WOULD, UH, THE LOGIC THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING HERE SHOULD BE PART OF MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE MARKETING AND ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN TO SUPPORT THIS.

SO WHEN, UM, WHEN YOU, UM, WHEN MARKETING'S COMMUNICATING THESE DESTINATIONS, UTILIZING THESE DISTRICT NAMES, UM, WILL HELP SUPPORT THAT.

SO YOU WOULD STILL RECOMMEND DOING BELTLINE DISTRICT POINTING SOMEONE TO THE BELTLINE DISTRICT RATHER THAN SAY, RESTAURANTS AND ENTERTAINMENT? YES, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S MORE THAN JUST, THERE'S MORE THAN THOSE DESTINATIONS THAT, THAT, UM, THAT ARE ACCESSED OFF THE BELTLINE.

SO FOR US, IT'S CHALLENGING TO, TO, TO CATEGORIZE THAT, UM, BY THE FUNCTION RATHER THAN A DISTRICT NAME IN, IN A, IN A, IN A CITYWIDE CONTEXT, WE WOULD, WE WOULD DEFINE A DISTRICT SO THAT, UM, LIKE THE CIRCLE DISTRICT WORKS OUT REALLY WELL.

THE BELTLINE, THOUGH, BEING A CORRIDOR, UH, IT'S A TRANSITIONAL AREA.

UH, IT'S MORE, IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO, UM, COME UP WITH A REALLY GOOD NAME FOR IT.

BELTLINE SEEM TO MAKE THE MOST SENSE BECAUSE IT, UH, ALIGNS WITH THE NAME OF THE ROAD.

I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE ANYONE WOULD KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

AND I DON'T.

AND MAYBE THAT'S NOT A QUESTION FOR TONIGHT, BECAUSE I'VE GOT SEVERAL QUESTIONS ON THAT.

MAYBE I SAVE THAT FOR WHEN WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK FOR APPROVAL, OR DO YOU WANT THOSE NOW? UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO HEAR WHATEVER FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE, WE WOULD BRING BACK FOR APPROVAL.

OKAY, SURE, MAYOR.

ABSOLUTELY.

I'VE GOT MY GUIDANCE, WHATEVER THE MAYOR SAYS.

RANDY, THANK YOU.

UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE, THE STONE MARKERS, THE ONE I HAVE IN MIND ON BELTLINE AT MIDWAY, KIND OF THE CITY LIMIT SIGN COMING IN, TO ME, THAT'S A VERY ATTRACTIVE SIGN.

I LIKE THAT ONE.

UH, THEY CAN COEXIST WITH THAT.

OR IS THAT ONE THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON? BULLDOZING? SO THOSE WOULD BE PLANNED TO BE, UH, REMOVED.

SO PLAN B DOWN, THEY WOULD BE PLANNED TO BE REMOVED AND SOME OF THOSE AREAS.

UM, AND GO AHEAD.

I ALWAYS SEEM TO GET HIS ATTENTION.

I MEAN, THE BIG ONE AT THE BIG NEW ONE AT BELTLINE IN MARSH IS THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THAT ONE MARSH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

I'M, THAT ONE'S GONNA STAY THERE, BUT IT'S GOT THE SAME KIND OF FILTER TOO.

I'LL LET YOU SPEAK TO THAT.

IT DOES HAVE THE SAME FEEL IS WHAT I WAS SAYING.

THAT ONE FEELS LIKE IT CAN COEXIST VERY EASILY WITH THEM.

IT'S IT'S REALLY THE OLD, IT'S THOSE OLDER ONES.

THE THE OLDER ONES.

I, I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHICH ONE YOU'RE SPEAKING TO, BUT YEAH.

AND THAT ONE'S NOT THAT OLD.

SO YEAH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD FIT RIGHT IN, I THINK.

AND YOU KNOW, THE ONE ON, UH, WEST GROVE COMING UNDERNEATH THE TOW WAY, THAT'S ALMOST A HISTORIC WELCOME TO ADDISON SIGN.

I MEAN, THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE ICONIC SIGNS.

I WOULD HOPE WE WOULD LEAVE THAT ONE THERE AS WELL.

BUT I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT AS A COMMENT.

OF DOING A COST ESTIMATE ON THE SIGNS.

APPRECIATE YOUR DISCUSSION TOO, RIGHT? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

PUT IT IN YOUR YARD, YOU CAN HAVE IT.

ONE MORE REAL QUICK, ONE QUICK.

UH, IN LOOKING AT THESE SIGNS, I REALLY LIKE THE LOOKS AT 'EM.

IS THERE A THOUGHT OR IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF HAVING THESE ILLUMINATED, HAVING THAT BLUE BALL? HAVE A, HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A A, A SOLAR PANEL ON THE TOP WITH SOME LED LIGHTS TO WHERE IT'LL BE A NICE SOFT BLUE GLOW AT NOW? I THINK THAT WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL.

ALL COST MORE MONEY.

RANDY, HUH? COST MORE MONEY.

UH, AND YOU, YOU HIT IT, BUT I WAS GONNA ASK THAT.

UM, YES, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY AND THESE ARE THE SIGN TYPES WE'D WANNA DO THAT.

THE GATEWAYS, THAT WOULD BE THE LOCATION WHERE WE COULD PROBABLY PULL POWER TO AND ILLUMINATE THESE.

SEE THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D BE INTERESTED IN PULLING THE POWER NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING A BUNCH OF MONEY.

YEAH, IF WE CAN DO IT WITH A SOLAR PANEL, WITH LED LIGHTS, I WOULD BE FOR THAT PULLING POWER AND DOING THAT.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND DOLLARS DOING THAT ALL OVER TOWN.

AND I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS ON THOSE, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE WORTH EXPLORING.

AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

GOOD NIGHT.

GOOD LUCK.

AARON.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE 13? THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD ONE ALSO, BUT, UH, 13.

SO THAT'S GOT ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, DESIGNS.

FIRST OF ALL, I LIKE IT.

I LIKE THE DESIGN.

I'M RECOVERING IT GUY, SO I'M REALLY BAD OPINION ON ART STUFF.

BUT I DO LIKE IT.

I THINK IT'S COOL.

I LIKE THE IDEA FOR, UH, THE REPLACEABLE, UH, PANELS, UM, AND THE MAINTENANCE SIDE OF IT, KIND

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IT'S LIKE, WOW, THOSE ARE REALLY NICE.

ESPECIALLY WHENEVER I SAW THE, THE, UH, UH, DIE CUT OR THE, UM, CNC CUT, UH, PARTS OF THE SIGNS, HOW IT'S ASSEMBLED.

WHAT IS ONE OF THOSE, WHAT'S THE BALLPARK ON ONE OF THOSE? LIKE THE, UM, G TWO, UM, INSTALL.

ARE WE TALKING A THOUSAND DOLLARS INSTALLED? ARE WE TALKING 10,000 INSTALLED OR SO G TWO IN THE MIDDLE? YEAH.

G TWO.

YEP.

THAT'S $10,000 PLUS KINDA WHAT I THOUGHT.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU GO TO SLIDE 23, 22, PROBABLY SLIDE 22, IT SEEMS LIKE OUR DOLLARS WON'T GO VERY FAR.

'CAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES IN THE TOWN WHERE WE WERE PUTTING THESE ON.

SO IS PHASE ONE AND TWO GONNA DO 20% OF THE SIGNS OR IS IT GONNA DO 80% OF THE SIGNS? THE VEHICULAR AND PARKING ARE IN PHASE TWO.

SO THAT'S ALL THE VEHICULAR SIGNS.

AND THERE IS A, THERE'S A REASON THOSE SIGNS ARE AS EXPENSIVE AS THEY ARE TOO.

THEY ALL HAVE A BREAKAWAY BASE.

SO THE PEDESTALS ON THE BOTTOM MEET A DOT CRASH REQUIREMENT.

IN CASE THEY'RE HIT, THAT CONTRIBUTES SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE COST AS WELL.

SO THE, THE COST ESTIMATE YOU GAVE IS INSTALLED? YES.

FAB AND INSTALL.

AND THE ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE OVERALL PLAN IS, IS TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT'S, UH, SHOWN HERE.

SO IT WOULD BE TO INSTALL ALL THE SIGNS THAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE OVERALL PLAN.

THAT'S THE GOAL.

IS THAT INTO PHASE THREE OR IS THAT, THAT'S PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.

WE DON'T HAVE A CURRENTLY A PHASE THREE.

THE, THE OTHER THING I CAN'T GET IN MY WAY WITH SO MUCH IS, IS HOW MUCH THIS COSTS.

'CAUSE I KNOW IT IS EXPENSIVE, BUT I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT.

AND YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE LIFESPAN BEING 10 TO 20 YEARS AND THE WARRANTY BEING SEVEN TO 10 YEARS, AND WARRANTY, I ASSUME WOULD BE FADING, WOULD BE OTHER SORT OF DETERIORATION, CORROSION, AND SUCH.

UM, SO THIS IS AN INVESTMENT THAT'S GONNA BE, UM, A GENERATION, COUPLE DECADES, THREE DECADES.

SO IT'S, IT'S AN INVESTMENT THAT I THINK IS, IS IMPORTANT TO WHAT OUR TOWN LOOKS LIKE.

SO I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE HOW FAR OUR MONEY GOES ON ALL THE SIGNS.

AND THAT WOULD COME WHEN YOU COME BACK.

SO THAT'S, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.

MARLON, DEFINITELY.

YOU MAYOR CAN DO THAT.

MAYOR.

UM, AND YOU SAID G TWO IS ROUGHLY 10,000? DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? UM, YEAH, I, WE DO HAVE A COST BREAKDOWN ON ALL THE SIGN TYPES.

I DON'T HAVE HAVE THAT WITH ME TODAY, BUT I COULD FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU AND TELL YOU, I CAN GIVE YOU A BREAKDOWN OF ALL THE SIGN COSTS.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A ROUGH IDEA.

AND, AND, UM, MORE IMPORTANTLY, K ONE, THE K, THE 2K ONES? YES.

UM, I, I'M MORE OF A FAN OF THE, THE K TWOS, BUT CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT, WHAT THE K ONES COST ROUGHLY? YOU GONNA QUOTE ME ON THAT AGAIN? SO THE DEPENDS ON WHETHER THEY MONITOR.

YEAH, IT DEPENDS ON THE MONITOR OR NOT.

SO THE K ONE IS GONNA BE EIGHT TO $10,000, BUT THE K THE SECOND ONE WITH THE MONITOR IS PROBABLY GONNA BE MORE LIKE 14 TO $15,000.

AND WHEN WE COME BACK, UH, FOR THIS, FOR AN ADOPTION, WE'LL BREAK DOWN EACH ONE OF THESE SIGN TYPES WITH AN ESTIMATION.

KEEP IN MIND THERE'S ONLY A FEW OF THESE THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAJORITY OF THE SIGNS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ARE REALLY GONNA BE THAT, THAT G SERIES, UH, SIGN, UM, THAT, THAT WILL BE THE MAJORITY OF THE SIGNS YOU'RE GONNA SEE THROUGHOUT.

AND THEN OF COURSE THE PARKING.

SO, AND, AND I'M GOING TO, I'M TRYING TO DO MY BEST TO GIVE GUIDANCE BEFORE YOU BRING IT TO ADOPTION.

YEAH, NO, I APPRECIATE THAT.

BECAUSE SOMETIMES SOME PEOPLE VIEW THAT AS A LITTLE LATE FOR GUIDANCE, BUT, UM, I AM NOT, GUIDANCE WISE, I'M NOT A FAN OF, OF, UM, K ONE OR K ONE M.

UM, WHEN, WHEN WE, WHEN WE CAN BASICALLY DO THE SAME WITH, WITH, UH, THESE K TWO PRODUCTS, I THINK K TWO LOOKS A LOT BETTER, UM, AND IS CLOSER IN MY MIND IN ALIGNMENT WITH ALL THE OTHER SIGNAGE.

UM, SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.

UM, AND, AND WE'RE GONNA DEFINITELY WANNA MAKE OUR PRESENCE FELT RIGHT THERE AT DALLAS AND ADDISON AND CARROLLTON AND ADDISON.

UM, AND THE OTHER THOUGHT I HAD IS I, UM, WE TOOK A FIELD TRIP TO ARLINGTON TO, TO CHECK OUT SOME STUFF AND THEY HAD ONE OF THESE.

AND, UM, IT JUST, IT WASN'T AS GREAT AS I THOUGHT IT'D BE.

AND SOME OF THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE SUN AND THE, IT'S HARD TO SEE AND MOVEMENT AND SO FORTH.

SO I'M NOT A, NOT A FAN OF K ONE OR K ONE M.

UM, I AM A FAN OF ALL THIS STUFF.

THIS IS GREAT.

SO, UH, THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING, UH, GUIDANCE WISE, IT'S, UM, UM, I THINK RIGHT NOW IF WE, IF WE FOCUS ON, UM, THE COTTON BELT TRAIL AT THE TOLLWAY THAT WE'RE PROBABLY, IF WE LOOKED OVER THERE, WE'D FIND THAT, UM, THAT'S A VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT GATEWAY IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE WITH THE COTTON BELT TRAIL.

AND UM, AND THAT'S PROBABLY A PLACE WHERE WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA WANT, UH, TO SHOW THAT DIFFERENTIATOR, UH, WITH A FEW OF US HAVE WALKED THESE TRAILS EXTENSIVELY OR THE COTTON BELT TRAIL.

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AND I'M NOT PROPOSING CARROLLTON AND ADDISON RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE WE'RE JUST NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING, WE'RE ABOUT MAYBE ANOTHER YEAR OR SO FOR THAT ONE.

BUT, BUT I THINK IF WE LOOK AT, AT, AT, UH, COTTON BELT TRAIL AT ADDISON, UH, IN ADDISON RIGHT THERE OFF OF, UH, DALLAS AND ADDISON AT THE TRAIL, I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA FIND THAT WE'RE PROBABLY READY FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.

SO THOSE ARE, THAT'S MY GUIDANCE.

I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.

A LITTLE MORE ON THE GUIDANCE ALSO.

UH, I AGREE WITH MARLON.

I DON'T LIKE THE SHORT STUDY ONES.

THE KS, I WOULD KNOCK THOSE OUT.

AND FOR STANDARDIZATION TOO, PROBABLY ECONOMY OF SCALE AS WELL, KEEPING THE, UH, THE M'S AND THE OTHER ONES.

THE KK TWOS.

NOT THE K ONES I GUESS, BUT THE K TWOS.

IF WE GO WITH THE LED AND I'M RANDY, I LIKE THE LLED LIGHTING OR THE, THE SOLAR POWERED LIGHTING I THINK AND SOLAR POWER SPECIFICALLY.

NOT, UH, STREET POWER.

'CAUSE IT SAYS SOME THINGS ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, IT'S A COOL THING TO DO AND SO ON.

BUT I THINK THE LIGHTING, I LIKE THAT TO SEE A LIGHTING OPTION IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE.

OKAY, NO PROBLEM.

ONE QUICK QUESTION.

YOU SAID YOU WERE DONE.

I DID.

I'M SORRY.

I SAID, AND I SAID GOOD NIGHT.

ONE, ONE QUICK ONE THOUGH.

LET'S DO BREAK AWAY.

YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED CARS HITTING THESE GOTTA BREAK AWAY WHEN THIS HAPPENS.

IT'S NOT, IF IT'S WHEN THIS HAPPENS, DO, DO WE HAVE A COMMITMENT THAT WE WILL HAVE THE INSURANCE PAY FOR THESE FROM THE, FROM THE CARS THAT RUN OVER THESE? THAT'S ALL SOMETHING THAT I WOULD FALL THROUGH THE RISK MANAGEMENT PROCESS.

UH, MR. GL IS NODDING AND GIVING ME A THUMBS UP.

SO YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S STANDARD PROCESS.

SOME, SOME, SOME CITIES DO AND SOME CITIES DON'T.

LET'S JUST SAY THERE IS A CONTINGENCY BILL WE'LL SEE TO THE COST AS WELL.

QUICKLY, PLEASE KIOSKS.

JUST BRIEFLY, KIOSKS, WHAT'S YOUR EXPERIENCE? DO PEOPLE USE 'EM? ABSOLUTELY.

THEY'RE ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SIGN TYPES.

ARE THERE SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES? LIKE COULD WE SELL ADVERTISING ON 'EM? THESE ARE DOUBLE-SIDED SIGNS.

SO THE ONE SIDE WOULD WE WANNA WAY FINDING MAP, BUT THE OTHER SIDE'S COMPLETELY FLEXIBLE.

I HAVE TO, WE TALKED WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT THAT BACKSIDE BEING AN INTERPRETIVE PANEL, ADVERTISING PROMOTION.

IT CAN BE ANYTHING.

AND I HAVE TO AGREE WITH WHAT WAS SAID.

I PROBABLY, OF ALL THE KIOSKS, K TWO IS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE.

YEAH, I JUST WANNA TOUCH BASE, UM, REALLY QUICKLY.

THERE IS A CONTINGENCY BUILT ON THESE COSTS TOO, SO THAT, UM, IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL BUDGET, WE WOULD RECOMMEND HAVING AT STOCK A COUPLE OF EXTRA SIGNS AND COMPONENTS IN CASE THEY'RE DAMAGED.

THE NEW SIGN GOES UP WHILE IT'S BEING FIXED.

AND THEN YES, THE INSURANCE WOULD HOPEFULLY COVER THE REPLACEMENT COSTS.

VERY GOOD.

ALRIGHTY.

MAYOR, WHAT DO YOU HAVE? DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? ANYTHING ELSE? OR YOU? I THINK I HAVE PLENTY, BUT, UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

DON'T NEED TO SAY THAT.

WELL WE APPRECIATE IT.

WE VERY HAVE MORE.

WELL, I, I THAT'S FINE.

BUT IT'S, IT'S A, IT IS A LATE HOUR.

UH, CIO.

JEFF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE BECKY, YOU.