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OKAY.[1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present.]
EVENING.IT'S FIVE 30 AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL FOR TO BEGIN WITH OUR WORK SESSION ON MAY 26TH, 2020 SIXTH.
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT, UH, THIS EVENING WITH SIX MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE, AND WE WILL GO RIGHT
[2. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.]
INTO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.
UH, PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION ITEM NUMBER TWO.
THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.
COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS.
CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW AND CITY COUNCIL IS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, AND THEY MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
I HAVE TWO COUNSEL APPEARANCE CARDS, SO I WILL CALL FIRST CHUCK GREEN TO THE LECTERN, AND IF YOU WOULD, UH, BE SURE AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU DO HAVE THREE MINUTES AND YOU'LL HEAR THE, UH, TONE GO OFF BEHIND YOU WHEN THAT THREE MINUTES IS UP.
YES, NAME IS, EXCUSE ME, CHUCK GREEN.
I LIVE AT 1 4 9 7 4 FOGGER COURT IN ADDISON.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL ON MAY 2ND.
THE PEOPLE OF ADDISON DELIVERED ONE OF THE CLEAREST MESSAGES IN OUR TOWN'S RECENT HISTORY BY A MARGIN OF 70% TO 30%, VOTERS CHOSE TO REMAIN IN DART.
THAT WASN'T A CLOSE CALL, THAT WASN'T A COIN FLIP.
THAT WAS AN OVERWHELMING MANDATE FROM THE ELECTRIC ELECTRIC, A STATEMENT THAT ADDISON VALUES REGIONAL MOBILITY, ECONOMIC CONNECTIVITY, AND LONG-TERM BENEFITS THAT COME FROM BEING PART OF A UNIFIED TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.
THIS ELECTION DID MORE THAN SETTLE A POLICY QUESTION.
IT REVEALED SOMETHING IMPORTANT ABOUT WHO WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY.
FOR MONTHS, RESIDENTS ATTENDED MEETINGS, WROTE EMAILS, AND SPOKE PASSIONATELY ON BOTH SIDES ABOUT THE FUTURE OF TRANSIT AND ADDISON.
AND WHILE THE DEBATE WAS SPIRITED, THE VOTE SHOWED THAT A STRONG UNDENIABLE MAJORITY BELIEVES OUR FUTURE IS STRONGER WITH DART THAN WITHOUT IT.
BUT WE ALSO MUST ACKNOWLEDGE THE COST OF WHERE, OF HOW WE GOT HERE.
THE DECISION TO CALL THIS ELECTION COST ADDISON 8.2 MILLION FROM THE SIX YEAR GUARANTEED MOBILITY PROGRAM THAT IS REAL MONEY, $460 FOR EVERY TOWN RESIDENT MONEY LOST BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF COUNCILMEN PUBLICLY PROFESSED VOTER RIGHTS WHILE NOT SO SUBTLY SUPPORTING DART WITHDRAW, HAVING NO DART SIGN, NO, NO DART YARD SIGNS, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND THE COST WASN'T ONLY FINANCIAL, THE PROCESS POLARIZED.
OUR RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE LIVED SIDE BY SIDE FOR YEARS SUDDENLY FOUND THEMSELVES IN OPPOSITE SIDES OF A DEEPLY EMOTIONAL ISSUE.
TRUST WAS STRAINED, FRIENDSHIPS WERE TESTED, AND MUCH OF THAT DIVISION CAME FROM THE FEELING EXPRESSED AGAIN AND AGAIN IN THREE SEPARATE PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL WAS NOT LISTENING TO THE MAJORITY OF SPEAKERS WHO URGED THEM NOT TO JEOPARDIZE ADDISON'S PLACE IN DART.
THE ELECTION RESULTS MADE THAT DISCONNECT.
UNMISTAKABLE, 70% OF VOTERS REAFFIRMED THAT WHAT MANY RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR MONTHS, THAT STAYING IN DART IS NOT JUST A TRANSPORTATION CHOICE.
IT IS A STRATEGIC INVESTMENT IN ADDISON'S ECONOMIC VITALITY, OUR REGIONAL IDENTITY, AND OUR LONG-TERM MOBILITY.
NOW, THE QUESTION FOR BEFORE US IS NOT WHETHER WE STAY IN DART THAT HAS BEEN ANSWERED DECISIVELY.
THE QUESTION IS HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, HOW WE REBUILD TRUST, AND HOW WE REPAIR THE POLARIZATION AND HOW WE ENSURE THAT FUTURE DECISIONS REFLECT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.
AND WHAT CAN, WHAT CAN ALL, WHAT CAN ALL OF US DO TO PERSUADE DART TO RETURN ADDISON'S G UH, GMP FUNDING? I BELIEVE GETTING THE 8.2 MILLION WILL GO A LONG WAY IN HEALING THE DAMAGE THE MAY ELECTION HAS CAUSED.
WHILE FAILURE TO SECURE THAT FUNDING WILL STRENGTHEN LINGERING RESENTMENT, FOCUS ON THE INDIVIDUALS RESPONSIBLE.
FINALLY, WE NEED TO CAPITALIZE ON OUR INVESTMENT IN DART.
ADDISON CAN TURN THE SILVER LINE INTO A DESTINATION ENGINE, NOT JUST A TRAIN STOP BY TIGHTLY LINKING RAIL ACCESS WITH RESTAURANTS, HOTELS, AND EVENTS THROUGH MARKETING PARTNERSHIPS, WAY FINDING AND CURATED EXPERIENCES THAT MAY TAKE THE SILVER LINE TO ADDISON, THE NEW SLOGAN FOR NORTH FOR THE NORTH DALLAS AREA.
NEXT WE HAVE GUILLERMO QUINTANILLA.
MY NAME IS GUILLERMO QUINTANILLA.
I RESIDE AT 41 15 RUSH CIRCLE IN ADDISON.
I'M SPEAKING THIS EVENING ABOUT ADDISON ORBIT AND THE DECISION BEFORE COUNCIL ADDISON HAS HAD MOBILITY AND FIRST MILE LAST MILE GOALS IN ITS PLANNING DOCUMENTS FOR YEARS BETTER.
LOCAL MOBILITY IS A VITAL AND IMPORTANT GOAL, BUT THIS SPECIFIC ORBIT VIA PILOT MOVED FROM CONCEPT TO LAUNCH VERY
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QUICKLY AND IT WAS SHAPED BY THE DART ELECTION TIMELINE ON FEBRUARY 10TH.COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO DEVELOP AN RFP FOR MOBILITY SERVICES THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED IF ADDISON VOTERS CHOOSE TO WITHDRAW FROM DART.
ON MARCH 24TH, COUNCIL APPROVED, UH, VIA AGREEMENT FOR ON DEMAND MICRO TRANSIT AND PARATRANSIT SERVICES.
THE APPROVED, THE APPROVED SCOPE INCLUDED RALLY POINTS DOOR TO DOOR RESIDENTIAL SERVICE, A 12 MINUTE AVERAGE WAIT TIME AND A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF APPROXIMATELY $872,000.
THEN THE PROGRAM LAUNCHED DURING, UH, EARLY VOTING, THE AGREEMENT ANTICIPATED A POST-ELECTION DECISION POINT IF VOTERS CHOOSE TO REMAIN IN DART.
AFTER THAT HAPPENED, THE PILOT WAS REVISED.
PARATRANSIT TERMINATED SIX OF THE SEVEN RALLY POINTS REMOVED AND A REVISED SIX MONTH NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT REDUCED, UH, TO APPROXIMATELY $538,000.
STAFF Q AND AS CONFIRMED THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS PREPARED TO FILL GAPS FROM A POSSIBLE DART EXIT, INCLUDING PARATRANSIT AND REGIONAL TRANSIT CONNECTIONS.
IT ALSO SAYS THAT STAFF NOTIFIED VIA THAT THOSE PIECES WERE NO LONGER NEEDED.
THOSE ARE MEANINGFUL CHANGES FROM WHAT COUNCIL ORIGINALLY APPROVED, AND RESIDENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE HOW THOSE CHANGES WERE FORMALLY DOCUMENTED.
THIS EVENING'S PRESENTATION INCLUDES USEFUL INFORMATION, BUT COUNSEL AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD ALSO LISTEN TO WHAT MAY NOT BE FULLY IN THE ANSWERS.
WAS THE REVISED SCOPE DOCUMENTED IN WRITING BEFORE IT WAS IMPLEMENTED? WHAT WRITTEN CONTRACT AUTHORITY WAS USED? DO THE DATA SHOW ACTUAL DARK CONNECTED TRIPS, SILVER LINE TRIPS, OR ADDISON TRANSFER CENTER CONNECTIONS? WHAT IS THE COST PER COMPLETED RIDE AND IS ORBIT COMPETING OR DUPLICATING DART SERVICES? THE QUESTION TODAY IS NOT WHETHER MICRO TRANSIT IS A GOOD IDEA.
IN THEORY, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THE PROGRAM IS NOW OPERATING THE PROGRAM.
NOW OPERATING IS BEING MEASURED BY THE SAME STANDARDS COUNCIL APPLY TO DART COST RIDERSHIP, RELIABILITY, TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND MEASURED PUBLIC VALUE.
IF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE NOT FULLY ANSWERED THIS EVENING, I RESPECTFULLY ASK COUNSEL TO GIVE FOLLOW UP DIRECTIONS, STAFF TO PROVIDE THE REVISED WRITTEN SCOPE, THE UNDERLYING DATA, THE CONTRACT AUTHORITY, AND TO AVOID EXPANSION RENEWAL.
NEXT, CONTRACT APPROVAL OR PROMOTION UNTIL RESIDENTS CAN SEE WHAT THE TOWN IS ACTUALLY BUYING.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS I HAVE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
[3. Council Member Clarification Requests Regarding Consent Agenda Items. ]
ITEM NUMBER THREE, COUNCIL MEMBER CLARIFICATION REQUEST REGARDING CONSENT AND AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS NEEDED FROM COUNSEL ON CONSENT ITEMS? ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD ON THREE A COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNSEL SENDS TO STAFF REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS ARE PUT INTO A Q AND A DOCUMENT SENT OUT TO THE COUNSEL.
THAT SAME Q AND A DOCUMENT IS ALSO UPLOADED TO OUR WEBSITE, SO ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC CAN GO TO THE TOWN WEBSITE, PULL UP THE AGENDA, AND THERE'LL BE A LINK WITHIN THE AGENDA THAT YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THAT SAME Q AND A DOCUMENT SO YOU HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION THE COUNCIL HAS ON THAT.
[4. Closed Meeting. The Addison City Council will enter a Closed Meeting pursuant to Texas Government Code Sections 551-071 through 090 to discuss the following item(s):]
IS A CLOSED MEETING.ADDISON CITY COUNCIL WILL ENTER A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 51 DASH 7 1 9 0 TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEM PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 5 5 1 0 7 1, SECTION TWO AND 5 5 1 0.072 TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE TOWN'S LEGAL COUNSEL RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT OF THE POLICE AND COURTS FACILITIES.
CURRENTLY LOCATED AT 47 99 AIRPORT PARKWAY, INCLUDING THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF RAIL PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE ADDISON AIRPORT IN CONNECTION HERE WITH, AND IT IS 5 39.
WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THIS TIME.
AND SO IF YOU ALL WOULD EXCUSE US DURING THIS.
[5. Open Meeting. In accordance with Texas Government Code Chapter 551, the Addison City Council will reconvene in an Open Meeting to consider action, if any, on the matters discussed in the Closed Meeting.]
AND WE WILL RETURN INTO OPEN SESSION FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION.AND THERE IS NO ACTION FOR COUNSEL TO TAKE FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION.
SO WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR REGULAR WORK SESSION ITEMS. AND SO
[a. Present and discuss transit in Addison.]
FIRST ONE WE HAVE IS ITEM SIX A PRESENTED, DISCUSSED TRANSIT IN ADDISON, ASHLEY, ANYTHING MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ASHLEY SCHROER, UH, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER HERE TO TALK ABOUT TRANSIT IN ADDISON.SO GIVE YOU A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.
WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT MOVING PEOPLE AROUND ADDISON.
SO MICROT TRANSIT IN THE FIRST MILE, LAST MILE, OUR ADDISON ORBIT PILOT PROGRAM, WHAT THEIR SERVICE MODEL IS, THE CONTRACT, OUR PERFORMANCE
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METRICS AND FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED AND SOME PILOT IMPROVEMENTS.WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT DART OPTIONS, THE GO LINK ZONE, THE FIXED ROUTE CIRCULATOR.
THESE ARE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, BUT WE'RE GONNA REVISIT THOSE, THE POTENTIAL FOR A TRANSIT COMMITTEE AND THEN GET SOME COUNCIL DIRECTION.
ADDISON, UH, MICRO TRANSIT IS A LOCAL MOBILITY SERVICE THAT CONNECTS RESIDENTS TO DESTINATIONS AND FOR US, THAT'S OUR RESTAURANTS, RETAIL, HOTELS OFFICE.
WE HAVE A SMALL FOOTPRINT, BUT A LOT GOING ON.
SO WITH OUR HIGH NUMBER OF HOTELS THAT HAVE CONFERENCES, OUR RESTAURANTS, THE RETAIL, UH, PERFECT ENVIRONMENT FOR A MICRO TRANSIT SOLUTION, FIRST MILE AND LAST MILE IS MAKING THAT CONNECTION BETWEEN DESTINATIONS WITHOUT NECESSARILY HAVING TO USE A CAR.
SO IF YOU GO BACK, SO BACK IN 2020, IT SEEMS LIKE FOREVER AGO, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAD THIS AS PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE GET ONCE YOU GET HERE ON THE SILVER LINE, 'CAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SILVER LINE AT THE TIME, HOW DO YOU THEN GET TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING? SO THAT'S WHEN FIRST MILE, LAST MILE REALLY BECAME PROMINENT HERE IN ADDISON.
HOW DO WE, ONCE WE GET YOU IN, HOW DO WE GET YOU TO WHERE YOU NEED TO GO? IT BECAME A FORMAL MILESTONE IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN PLAN IN 2024.
IN 2025, IT MOVED OVER TO A STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE WITH A, UH, KEY FOCUS AREA THAT FOCUSED ON MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY.
AND IT WAS TO ADDRESS THAT FIRST MILE LAST MILE WITH THE TOD.
IT ALSO WAS IN OUR FY 26 AND OUR FY 27 STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO SOLVING THAT FIRST MILE, LAST MILE, UH, MICRO TRANSIT HELPS BRIDGE THAT GAP.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU COME IN, YOU COME IN ON THE SILVER LINE AND YOU DECIDE YOU WANNA GO OVER TO VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY TO HAVE DINNER IN ONE OF OUR MANY RESTAURANTS.
HOW DO YOU GET THERE? WELL, A MICRO TRANSIT IS AN OPTION TO GET THERE.
SO YOU HOP IN, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE, IT'S GONNA TAKE YOU TO YOUR FINAL DESTINATION, HOPEFULLY ONE OF OUR MANY RESTAURANTS.
UM, UNLIKE A FIXED ROUTE, YOU HAVE FLEXIBILITY.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES MICRO TRANSIT DIFFERENT THAN JUST HAVING A BUS SERVICE OR, UM, SOMETIMES EVEN A FIXED ROUTE.
CIRCULATOR IS THE FLEXIBILITY.
SO NOT EVERY 30 MINUTES, EVERY 15 MINUTES, IT'S AN ON DEMAND SERVICE.
SO THAT BRINGS US TO ADDISON ORBIT.
SO AS EVERYBODY REMEMBERS, BACK IN MARCH WE APPROVED, COUNCIL APPROVED A CONTRACT TO MOVE FORWARD, FORWARD WITH ADDISON ORBIT AS A MICRO TRANSIT AND PARATRANSIT.
IN THE EVENT THAT WE LEFT DART, WE WANTED TO BE UP RUNNING AND READY IN CASE COUNCIL OR IN CASE THE ELECTION CAME TO WHERE WE WERE GOING TO LEAVE DART.
BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO LOOK AT THE, UH, LIKELIHOOD OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AS A MICROT TRANSIT PROVIDER.
AND SO AS A COMPLIMENT, IF WE STAYED IN DART, HOW CAN WE UTILIZE IT? SHOULD WE STAY IN DART? SO ADDISON ORBIT, THEIR SERVICE MODEL VIA IS WHO PROVIDES THAT FOR US IS AN ON DEMAND MICRO TRANSIT.
THEY HAVE BOOKING OPTIONS THROUGH THE ORBIT, UH, MOBILE APP.
IF YOU HAVEN'T DOWNLOADED IT, PLEASE DO.
WE ARE PLANNING TO INTEGRATE WITH THE DART GO PASS.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH WITH DART.
YOU CAN ALSO CALL INTO THEIR, UM, INTO THEIR CALL CENTER AND MAKE RESERVATIONS THAT WAY.
THEY HAVE DATA TRANSPARENCY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN VERY VALUABLE TO US AND SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE WANTED.
THEY ALLOW THE TOWN TO DIRECTLY ACCESS THAT DATA.
WE ARE LEARNING NOW HOW TO GET INTO THAT DATA AND HOW TO USE THAT DATA, BUT IT IS RIGHT AS OUR FINGERTIPS THAT WE CAN GET INTO IN REAL TIME.
UM, AND THEN CONNECTIONS TO THE DART STOP.
SO OBVIOUSLY, UM, POST-ELECTION, WE ARE STILL CONNECTING TO NOLL TRAIL STATION AND THE SILVER LINE AND THEN ALL THE CONNECTIONS WITHIN TOWN.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAD THE ABILITY TO EXPAND THAT SERVICE.
SO LET'S SAY FOR SAY, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE HEARD ARE PEOPLE WANT TO GO TO WALMART.
THAT IS TECHNICALLY OUTSIDE OF OUR LIMITS, BUT THAT IS A PLACE THAT A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS WANT TO GO.
SO IF WE WANTED TO MAKE THAT CHANGE, THAT'S A CHANGE THAT COUNCIL COULD MAKE AND IT'S AN EASIER TRANSITION AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL CAN CONTROL, NOT SOMEBODY ELSE.
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SO OUR ORBIT CONTRACT HAS PERFORMANCE STANDARDS IN IT.SO EVERYTHING FROM, AND I WON'T GO THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THESE, HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY REMEMBERS, BUT WE HAD A, UM, UPTIME PERCENTAGE OF NO LESS THAN 98%.
WE HAVE, UM, 12 MINUTE AVERAGE WAIT TIME, DRIVER WAIT TIME OF FIVE MINUTES AT DESIGNATED PICKUPS FOR NO SHOW RIDERS, DOOR TO DOOR TRIPS, UH, AVERAGE MONTHLY SEAT UNAVAILABLE PERCENTAGE, NO MORE THAN 10%.
UM, SO WE PUT ALL OF THESE IN THE CONTRACT.
THESE ARE OUR, OUR METRICS THAT WE EVALUATE BASICALLY ON A WEEKLY BASIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UH, THAT VIA IS LIVING UP TO THAT CONTRACT.
AND THEN THE ORBIT CONTRACT ALSO INCLUDED BOTH A SIX MONTH PILOT AND ORIGINALLY WE HAD THAT AT $872,231.
THERE WAS AN UPFRONT FEE AND THAT BASICALLY WAS THE FEE TO OUTFIT ALL, GET THE NINE VEHICLES, OUTFIT THEM WITH ALL OF THE VIDEO CAMERAS, ALL THE TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY NEEDED, THE WRAPPING.
THEN THERE WAS THE VEHICLE, UH, HOUR FEE, THE TOTAL HOURS THAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD NEED.
AND IF YOU, UH, JUST AS A REMINDER, THAT INCLUDED GOING TO SEVEN RALLY POINTS OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN AND PARATRANSIT, WHICH WOULD GO TO ALL 13 DART CITIES.
AND SO AGAIN, THAT HAD US AT, UH, JUST A LITTLE OVER 872,000 WORKING WITH VIA FOR THE REVISED PILOT.
SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD? IT HAS BROUGHT IT DOWN TO THE 538,297.
WE HAVE ALREADY PAID THE $83,000 IN THE UPFRONT COST.
SO WE TOOK THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE HOURS DOWN TO 7,460 FROM ALMOST 13,000.
AND THEN LOOKING AT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH VIA FOR A ONE YEAR CONTRACT, WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST UNDER 14,000 HOURS.
SO RIGHT AT 849,000, UH, FOR A YEAR FOR VIA.
SO JUST TO GIVE, BECAUSE THESE ARE NUMBERS THAT YOU SAW WHEN WE ADOPTED THE CONTRACT.
WANTED TO GIVE SOME NEW REVISED NUMBERS BASED ON THE WAY THAT THE ELECTION TURNED OUT AND SOME REVISED NUMBERS FROM VIA.
SO AGAIN, WE HAVE PAID THE 83,000 FOR THE UPFRONT COST.
SO TOTAL WE HAVE EXPENDED SO FAR IS $116,690.
ALSO, IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE WERE FEES THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY.
SO, UM, IF WE TERMINATED BASED ON THE DART ELECTION OR IF WE WERE JUST DONE WITHIN THE SIX MONTH, THERE WERE THINGS THAT WE WERE STILL GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT WE WERE OBLIGATED FOR THE LEASE OF THE VEHICLES, GETTING EVERYTHING TAKEN DOWN.
AND SO, UH, BASED ON TERMINATING MAY 27TH, SO IF COUNSEL GAVE DIRECTION THAT WE WERE DONE, THERE WOULD BE A TERMINATION FEE OF 102,698.
AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT THROUGH WITH MAY, BUT WE'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT 97, 90 $8,000 FOR THE MAY INVOICE.
SO THAT WOULD PUT US AROUND 200,500.
SO JUST TO KIND OF PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER, IF WE TERMINATED AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, WE'LL SPEND ABOUT $317,000 OF WHAT WOULD'VE POTENTIALLY BE 538,000.
SO TO PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE NUMBERS IN YOUR HEAD, UM, THE STATS THAT, AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT UH, WE HAVE IS DATA TRANSPARENCY.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT THESE NUMBERS ARE.
SO WE'VE HAD 600 AND AS OF MAY 17TH, WE'VE HAD 633 ACCOUNTS CREATED, 513 RIDES REQUESTED AT LEAST ONE.
UM, WE'VE HAD 92 WRITERS COMPLETE AT LEAST TWO BOOKINGS AND WE'VE HAD 30 WRITERS COMPLETE FIVE PLUS BOOKINGS.
AND THEN I GOT SOME MORE DATA JUST RECENTLY, IF I CAN FIND WHERE I WROTE THAT DOWN.
UM, THAT WE'VE HAD FIVE RIDERS THAT HAVE HAD 20 PLUS RIDES.
SO OUR ONE, WE HAVE ONE SINGLE RIDER THAT HAS HAD 63 RIDES AND USES IT DAILY FROM THEIR APARTMENT TO WORK.
UM, ACTIVE RIDER AVERAGE IS FOUR RIDERS PER WEEK AND WE HAVE 153 UNIQUE
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RIDERS.SO, UM, SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE ADDED INTO THE APP IS A RATING SYSTEM.
SO WE'VE ASKED HOW THEY HAVE RATED THEIR THEIR RIDE.
SO WE ARE AT A 4.9 OUT OF 195 STAR RATINGS.
AND THEN WE'VE HAD A 5.6 MINUTE AVERAGE WAIT TIME.
SO WE SAID 12 MINUTES, WE'RE AT 5.6.
SO WE'VE GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK FROM FROM RIDERS.
WE WANT YOU TO HEAR ALL SIDES.
SO, UM, DRIVERS CONSISTENTLY RECEIVE POSITIVE FEEDBACK FOR FRIENDLINESS, PROFESSIONALISM, THE VEHICLES, THEY'RE CLEAN AND COMFORTABLE, THEY'RE NEW, SO WE WOULD HOPE THAT THEY ARE, UH, THEY LIKE THE DOOR-TO-DOOR SERVICE MODEL.
THEY APPRECIATED THE CONVENIENCE FOR THE FIRST MILE, LAST MILE.
UM, AND THEN THEY, WE'VE HAD WRITERS SAY THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO USE IT REGULARLY.
UM, SOME ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HEARD, SOME OF THEM WE HAVE FIXED, SOME OF THEM WE'RE STILL WORKING ON MAPPING AND ROUTING INACCURACIES CREATED PICKUP AND DESTINATION ISSUES.
WE HAVE HAD SOME, UM, I HOPE COUNCILMAN MEMBER GARDNER DOESN'T MIND ME CALLING HIM OUT.
WE HAD AN ISSUE WHEN HE TRIED TO GET FOR A RIDE BECAUSE HE IS AT THE END OF A CUL-DE-SAC.
THEY DON'T TYPICALLY LIKE TO DO U-TURNS.
THEY WERE CONSIDERING A, A CUL-DE-SAC, A U-TURN.
UM, NOW I WILL ALSO TELL YOU HE CALLED ME, I CALLED VIA, WE GOT THAT FIXED WITHIN A DAY.
AND SO, UM, A LOT OF THESE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIX PRETTY QUICKLY AS WE FOUND THEM.
CELL SERVICE, UH, RELIABILITY FOR DISPATCHING CALLS.
THEY WERE AT THE SPECTRUM CENTER GARAGE OVER HERE, UM, ON ONE OF THE HIGHER FLOORS.
SO WHEN THEY WERE SITTING THERE WAITING TO BE DISPATCHED, THEY WEREN'T GETTING THE CALLS.
WE HAVE ACTUALLY MOVED THEM OVER HERE TO THE MORRIS LOT.
SO THEY ARE GETTING MUCH BETTER CELL SERVICE AND GETTING THOSE DISPATCH CALLS MUCH QUICKER.
UH, PICKUP WAIT TIMES WERE INCONSISTENT AND SOMETIMES SIGNIFICANTLY DELAYED.
UH, THE GOOD THING IS WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THESE AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO IN AND FIND OUT WHY AND FIX THOSE ISSUES.
VEHICLE SIZE AND STORAGE CAPACITY.
WERE CONCERNED FOR GROCERY TRIPS AND LUGGAGE.
UH, QUESTIONS WERE RAISED ABOUT PASS PRICING AND REFUND POLICIES AND UH, SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED, UH, OPPOSITION TO THE TOWN OPERATING THAT RATHER THAN DART.
SO I MEAN, AGAIN, WE WE'RE TAKING ALL OF THIS INFORMATION AND TRYING TO TO MAKE IT BETTER.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE WHERE IT'S JUST KIND OF A LIVING THING THAT AS WE GET FEEDBACK, UM, I'M SURE AARON LOVES IT.
EVERY TIME HE SEES MY NAME POP UP ON HIS PHONE.
'CAUSE I CALL HIM SEVERAL TIMES A DAY.
FELICIA DOES AN AMAZING JOB TAKING A LOT OF CALLS FROM PEOPLE.
AND SO WE MAKE SURE TO GET THAT OVER TO VIA JUST AS SOON AS WE, WE FIND THOSE ISSUES.
SO THE HOTELS, WE HAVE HAD SOME GOOD FEEDBACK AS FAR AS IT'S A GREAT AMENITY.
IT'S A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE BECAUSE THEY CAN TELL THEIR CUSTOMERS, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WALK SOMEWHERE.
HERE'S A GREAT ASSET THAT WILL COST YOU $3 EACH WAY.
UH, THE FRONT DESK TEAMS HAVE BEEN PROMOTING THE SERVICE AND HELPING GUESTS DOWNLOAD THE APP.
THEY LIKE THE FIXED PRICING THAT THERE'S NO SURGE PRICING.
UH, THEY LIKE THE TRANSPORTATION OPTION FOR THOSE WITHOUT VEHICLES OR THOSE WITH MOBILITY CHALLENGES.
UM, ORBIT HELPS SUPPORT MOBILITY WITHIN ADDISON AND THE VISITOR EXPERIENCE.
AND THEN, UH, HOTEL SUPPORT, CONTINUING THE SERVICE.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD IS THE LOW RIDERSHIP AND USAGE LEVELS THAT WERE NOTED.
WE HAVE NOT ROLLED THIS OUT THE WAY THAT VIA WOULD TYPICALLY ROLL OUT, UH, A PRODUCT LIKE THIS.
SO YES, THOSE LEVELS ARE LOWER THAN WHAT WE WANT OR WE ANTICIPATED GUESTS ARE FRUSTRATED BY THE LIMITED SERVICE AREA, THE INABILITY TO TRAVEL DESTINATIONS OUTSIDE OF ADDISON.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK ON TO TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY MENTIONED IS THEY WANNA GO TO THE STOCKYARDS.
WELL, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA HAVE A SERVICE THAT'S GONNA TAKE YOU ALL THE WAY TO FORT WORTH, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE A SILVER LINE HERE THAT CAN TAKE YOU TO THE TRE THAT CAN TAKE YOU TO FORT WORTH.
AND SO WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK WITH THE HOTELS AND THE TOURISM SO THAT THEY KNOW WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE YOU IN OUR VEHICLE, BUT WE CAN SURE TELL YOU HOW TO GET THERE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK ON.
UM, AND THEN SOME HOTELS NEAR TRANSIT STATIONS SEE LESS DEMAND BECAUSE THEIR GUESTS CAN JUST WALK TO THE RAIL SERVICE AND THAT'S GREAT TOO.
WE WANT, WE WANT THEM TO WALK TO THE RAIL SERVICE.
SO DURING OUR PILOT, UH, PROGRAM,
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WE HAVE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE FIXED IS THE PICKUP LOGIC.SO WE FIX THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD THEM, WHERE WE'VE HAD, UH, ISSUES WITH HOW THEY GET PICKED UP, UH, POINTS OF INTEREST.
WE ARE CONSTANTLY WORKING WITH THOSE, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE RELATIVE TO WHAT WE NEED TODAY.
WE DID TAKE OUT THE RALLY POINTS.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE APP, BRANDING, THE PRICING.
WE ADDED THE $6 DAILY PASS AND THEN THE PARATRANSIT SERVICE.
WE DID, UH, TERMINATE THAT FOLLOWING THE DART VOTE.
WE DIDN'T WANNA HAVE TO MAKE, I MEAN, WE DIDN'T NEED THAT AS A TRANSIT SERVICE.
WE ONLY HAD ONE PERSON THAT HAD GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET SIGNED UP FOR PARATRANSIT, BUT DID NOT COMPLETE THE PROCESS AND NOBODY REQUESTED A RIDE THROUGH PARATRANSIT.
UM, WE HAD COMPLETED THE LOT MOVE, WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THE NAVIGATION ISSUES.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE MARKETING PLAN IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PILOT, UH, WE ARE READY TO GO ON ROLLING THIS OUT.
SO OTHER MICRO TRANSIT OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
SO WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, THE DARK GO LINK IN THE CIRCULATOR, UH, DARK DART OFFERS A GOLINK ZONE, WHICH IS A MICRO TRANSIT THAT IS VERY SIMILAR.
NOW IT'S WITHIN A DESIGNATED ZONE, THE SAME AS WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, AND WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS OBVIOUSLY THEY PAY FOR THAT.
DART HAS BUDGETED $800,000 FOR THIS, UH, WITH NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE TOWN.
WE ALSO TALKED TO DART ABOUT A POTENTIAL CIRCULATOR.
SO DART HAS WORKED WITH OTHER CITIES TO HAVE FIXED ROUTE CIRCULATORS.
OURS WOULD BE THE QUORUM CORRIDOR BETWEEN KELLER SPRINGS AND BELTLINE TO VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.
AND IT IS A 50 50 FUNDING MODEL.
AND THAT COST WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT 837,000 TO ADDISON AND 837,000 TO DART.
SO DART HAS IN THEIR CURRENT BUDGET ABOUT $1.6 MILLION FOR MICRO TRANSIT OPTIONS DEDICATED DIRECTLY TO ADDISON.
SO WHAT IS DART GOLINK? AGAIN? IT'S VERY SIMILAR.
IT'S AN APP-BASED MICRO TRANSIT THAT CONNECTS ADDISON WITHIN, UM, OUR BOUNDARIES INTO THE DART RAIL AND THE BUS NETWORK.
ORIGINALLY IT WAS GONNA BE ROLLED OUT IN APRIL.
OBVIOUSLY DART WANTED TO WAIT ON THAT UNTIL THE ELECTION HAPPENED ON MAY 2ND.
THEY ARE PLANNING NOW FOR AN OCTOBER ROLLOUT.
THEY HAVE SAID THAT WE CAN TALK TO 'EM ABOUT POSSIBLY STARTING EARLIER.
IT'S THE SAME HOURS AS WHAT WE HAVE WITH ADDISON ORBIT BECAUSE WE MODELED OUR HOURS OVER WITH DARTS.
NOW THEY HAVE ONE DEDICATED VEHICLE FOR, UH, GOLINK.
UM, THIS IS VERY, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY OFFER FOR OTHER CITIES.
I BELIEVE FARMERS BRANCH HAS TWO DEDICATED VEHICLES.
SO THERE WILL BE ONE DEDICATED VEHICLE FOR ADDISON, AND THEN IT'S SUPPLEMENTED BY UBER AND LYFT.
UM, DART SAID THAT 70 OVER THEIR GOLINK SYSTEM WIDE.
SO OVER THE 13 DART CITIES, 70 TO 75% OF THEIR RIDES ARE ACTUALLY PICKED UP BY UBER AND LYFT, NOT BY THEIR DEDICATED VEHICLE IN A TOWN.
ABOUT OUR SIZE, THEY SAID IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ABOUT 50% OF THE TIME.
UM, THEY ARE A DA ACCESSIBLE EXCEPT FOR THE UBER AND LYFT VEHICLE.
SO THE CHRYSLER PACIFICA IS THE VAN THAT THEY WOULD HAVE FOR US.
IT WILL HAVE A RAMP AND EVERYTHING, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE UBER AND LYFT DO NOT HAVE THAT.
UM, THE SERVICE AREA, AGAIN, IS A DEFINED ZONE WITHIN ADDISON.
UH, YOU CAN BOOK VIA THE GO PASS, YOU CAN DO IT BY PHONE.
IT'S THE SAME FARES AS WHAT WE HAVE.
AND THE PROGRAM FLEXIBILITY THOUGH IS IF WE WANTED TO CHANGE THE ROUTE THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE DARTBOARD.
SO IF WE NEEDED TO, LET'S SAY WE WANTED TO CHANGE OUR ZONE AGAIN TO GO TO THE WALMART OVER, YOU KNOW, BY VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DARTBOARD TO CHANGE THAT ZONE.
UM, SO THE TOWN WOULD HAVE NO DIRECT CONTROL OVER THE GOLINK CONTRACT.
UH, THEY HAVE A 94%, THIS IS ACROSS THEIR GOLINK SYSTEM.
THEY HAVE A 94% ON TIME, A 12 TO 13 MINUTE AVERAGE WAIT TIME, INCLUDING THEIR UBER AND LYFTS.
AND THEY HAVE A LESS THAN 0.1% UNFULFILLED REQUEST.
AND AGAIN, THE GO LINK WOULD BE AT ZERO COST TO THE TOWN.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE FIXED ROUTE CIRCULATOR.
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IS A SHUTTLE.THIS IS A COPY OR A PICTURE OF THE VEHICLE THAT DART HAS TOLD US THAT THEY WOULD USE.
AND IT IS A DEDICATED ROUTE ALONG QUORUM BETWEEN KELLER SPRINGS, BELTLINE TO VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO STILL FUND, UH, 50% OF THIS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS A 15 MINUTE SERVICE.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT ON THE TIMING.
THEY HAVE WEEKDAYS 6:00 AM TO 10:00 PM AND WEEKENDS 10 TO 10.
UM, AND THEN 30 MINUTE SERVICE ON OTHER TIMES.
AND THEN AGAIN, 50% PAID BY THE TOWN.
SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT WE TRIED TO DO A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON.
UM, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THESE.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK ME QUESTIONS.
THE, YOU KNOW, THE BIG THING IS THE ONE DEDICATED, UH, WAVE, WHICH IS A WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLE.
UH, VERSUS WE WOULD HAVE OUR OWN DEDICATED FLEET WITH ADDISON ORBIT.
AND, UM, THE AVERAGE WAIT TIME, WE ARE OBVIOUSLY, UH, THE SAME AS FAR AS WHAT THE, UH, REQUIREMENT IS, WHICH IS THE 12 MINUTES.
ORBIT IS COMING IN MUCH BETTER AT THE, JUST OVER FIVE AND A HALF MINUTES.
AND THEN AGAIN, WE HAVE CONTROL OVER BRANDING AND THE TOWN CONTROLS THAT CONTRACT.
SO THAT IS THE MICRO TRANSIT, FIRST MILE, LAST MILE PORTION OF THIS.
UM, THERE'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAD, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE BRING UP IS A POTENTIAL TRANSIT COMMITTEE.
SO SOME OF OUR LOCAL CITIES, AS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS WITH DART, UH, HAVE FORMED A TRANSIT COMMITTEE.
AND IT'S BASICALLY TO MONITOR DART SERVICES, EVALUATE OTHER TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS, UM, SUCH AS WHAT ARE THE DART SERVICES BEING PROVIDED, LEGISLATIVE UPDATES.
IF YOU RECALL, WE HAVE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH DART THAT HAS TO HAVE LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS.
SO THE BOARD COMP COMPOSITION, IF WE DID A REGIONAL RAIL SYSTEM, UH, WE CAN TALK TO 'EM AND BE ENGAGED IN THE MICRO TRANSIT OPTION AND DART BOARD DECISIONS.
UM, THE POTENTIAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS COULD BE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IT COULD BE THE DART BOARD REPRESENTATIVES, CITIZENS OR RIDERS WITH TRANSIT EXPERIENCES, HOTEL REPRESENTATIVES.
THIS IS JUST KIND OF A EXAMPLE OF WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE ON THEIR BOARD.
SO WITH THAT, WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOME COUNCIL DIRECTION ON, DO WE CONTINUE THE SIX MONTH PILOT TO GAIN MORE INFORMATION? AGAIN, WE HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO ROLL OUT ADDISON ORBIT THE WAY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO.
WE WOULD ALSO CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH DART ABOUT THE MONEY THAT THEY HAVE, UH, ALLOCATED TO ADDISON AND SEE IF WE COULD USE THAT TO JUST KEEP OUR OWN MICRO TRANSIT OR TO MAKE THEIR GOAL LINK MORE OF WHAT WE WANT FOR ADDISON OR DO WE CANCEL THE PROGRAM AND TERMINATE THE CONTRACT AS OF MAY 27TH.
AND THEN IN ADDITION IS COUNSEL INTERESTED IN DOING A TRANSIT COMMITTEE.
WHO HAS THE FIRST QUESTIONS? RANDY? THANK YOU.
SURPRISED I WAS ABLE TO PUSH THE BUTTON FAST ENOUGH.
I, UH, I FIT IN THAT CATEGORY.
THAT WAS WAY OVER TO THE RIGHT, THE SUPER WRITER.
I GUESS I HAVE RIDDEN ORBIT ALMOST EVERY DAY.
WE WERE, WE HAD A SERVICE IN PLACE, LARGE PART DUE TO YOUR HARD WORK AND DILIGENCE WORKING WITH VIA AND, UH, THE REST OF THE STAFF.
WE HAD A, WE HAD A SERVICE IN PLACE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MODEL FOR EVERYONE.
SHOULD WE HAVE GONE TO THAT? I HAVE SEVERAL THOUGHTS ON ORBIT GOING FORWARD.
MY FIRST THOUGHT IS IT'S NOT THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR FIRST MILE, LAST MILE.
PEOPLE WANT DARK, THEY GET DART.
UH, THERE'S UBER, THERE'S LYFT, THERE'S OTHER SERVICES THAT COULD COME INTO TOWN TO, TO PROVIDE A COMMERCIAL SERVICE TO GET PEOPLE WANT TO GO FROM PLACES.
ANOTHER THOUGHT IS PEOPLE WANTED DART, GIVE THEM DART IF THAT COST, WHATEVER DART WOULD BE WILLING TO PROVIDE.
MY OVERRIDING THOUGHT IS THAT I WANT THE BEST,
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I WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE RESIDENTS OF ADDISON AND GOLINK, AIN'T IT? I HAVE GONE AND I HAVE TRIED GOLINK IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS AND TRIED IT, AND YOU CAN SAY THEY'RE COMPARABLE, THEY MAY BE DISTANT COUSINS, BUT THERE IS NO COMPARISON TO THE QUALITY OF SERVICE THAT ORBIT IS PROVIDING OUR PEOPLE AND WHAT GOLINK PROVIDES.I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ORBIT, BUT I DO NOT WANT IT TO COST THE CITIZENS OF ADDISON ONE PENNY.
IF WE CAN KEEP ORBIT HIGHER, I'M NOT USUALLY, UM, WHEN WILL WE KNOW YOU HAVE ALL THE POSITIVES,
WE FOUND PROBLEMS. WE FIXED THEM IN VERY SHORT ORDER.
WHEN WILL WE KNOW IF DART IS GOING TO FUND US TO WHERE WE CAN KEEP ORBIT? OR ARE THEY GONNA SAY, NO, WE HAVE A SERVICE, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
THAT'S TYPICALLY THE WAY DART NEGOTIATE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
AND I, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, I MEAN, I THINK DART'S BEEN A, HAD, HAS BEEN A GREAT PARTNER AS WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS.
YOU KNOW, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE DART INTERIM CEO TODAY AND SOME OF THEIR STAFF.
AND I THINK IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE THE PILOT, THEY ARE OPEN TO HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT FUNDING.
THEY'RE ALSO OPEN TO HAVING DISCUSSION IF WE GAIN INSIGHT FROM VIA, FROM THE ADDISON ORBIT OF IMPROVING THE GOLINK SERVICE OR TAILORING IT TO US.
THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE HEARD A LOT FROM THEIR INTERIM.
CEO IS SAYING, HEY, WHAT MAKES SENSE IN EACH INDIVIDUAL CITY UNDERSTANDING THAT CITIES ARE DIFFERENT AND WE ARE A UNIQUE TOWN AND GIVEN OUR SIZE, IF WE CONTINUE WITH, IF WE HAVE GOLINK, WHAT WE LEARN FROM A PILOT PROGRAM COULD HELP MORPH WHAT GOLINK IS TO ADDISON.
BUT IT ALSO COULD BE THAT THEY LOOK AT THEIR BUDGET, THEY HAVE 1.6 MILLION IN THEIR BUDGET FOR MICRO TRANSIT IN ADDISON.
AND IF WE CAN GET INTO AN AGREEMENT WHERE THEY, THEY PAY FOR A SERVICE THAT HITS THE GOALS THAT WE WANT, THEY'RE OPEN TO THAT CONVERSATION.
SO I CAN TELL YOU WE'RE NOT READY TO HAVE THAT DECISION FOR THEM TODAY, BUT THEY HAVE SHOWN A WILLINGNESS TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ON THAT.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHAT, WHAT ARE WE ANTICIPATE? THEY ALWAYS SAY WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL A BOARD MEETING.
THE WE HAVE TO DO WHAT? ARE WE ANTICIPATING A TIMEFRAME THAT THE SLOW COG WHEELS OF DART WOULD WORK? YES.
I'M NOT, AND I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, IT'S SEPTEMBER 1ST.
I, I WOULD SAY WHAT WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TODAY IS DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A SIX MONTH PILOT PROGRAM? SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY THE GOAL WOULD BE AT THE END OF THE SIX MONTHS, WE HAVE A DECISION ON DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH ORBIT? DO WE WANT TO JUST RELY ON DART TO DO GOLINK? DO WE WANT TO HAVE GOLINK BE TAILORED IN A DIFFERENT WAY? SO I WOULD HAVE THAT BE THE TARGET AND WE WOULD HAVE ALL OF OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH DART, BUT WOULD BE LEADING TO THE SAME ENDPOINT.
AND, AND MY FINAL POINT ON ORBIT WOULD BE I LOVE THE SERVICE.
I WANT I, BUT I DON'T, I I WILL REPEAT MYSELF.
I DON'T WANT THE TAXPAYERS OF ADDISON TO PAY ONE PENNY FOR IT, BUT IF WE CAN KEEP ORBIT AND DART PAY FOR IT, IF WE WERE TO KEEP ORBIT, WOULD, WOULD IT BECOME A NET POSITIVE FOR THE TOWN AS FAR AS THE FARES THAT WE COLLECT? WOULD THIS TOWN STILL BE ABLE TO COLLECT THE FARES THAT WE ARE NOW COLLECTING FROM ORBIT? OR WOULD THOSE FARES GO TO DART? OR WOULD IT JUST SIMPLY BECOME A COMPLIMENTARY SERVICE FOR OUR RESIDENTS? I THINK THOSE WOULD BE THE DETAILS WE'D HAVE TO JUST WORK ON.
I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO ANY, I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR SPECIFICS, BUT IF YOU HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS, I'M JUST KIND OF ASKING FOR THE FEEL OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND WHAT YOUR GUT MIGHT BE.
I MEAN, WE, WE HAVEN'T GOT TO THAT POINT.
IT WOULD JUST HOW IT'S, IF IT'S SET UP WHERE IT'S, THEY'RE GIVING US MONEY TO USE FOR ANYTHING WE WOULD LIKE, AND WE USE MONEY AND WE CHARGE, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S, IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW IT'S SET UP.
SO I JUST DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR YOU.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, VIA IS HERE ORBIT REPRESENTATIVES, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD HAVE FOR VIA IS AS MUCH VILLAINIZATION AS IF YOU HAVE HAD DIRECTED TOWARDS VIA AND ORBIT, I WOULD HOPE ORBIT AND VIA WOULD STILL BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE SMALL TOWN OF ADDISON AFTER WHAT THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH.
UH, I I I'M SURPRISED THEY HAVEN'T LOCKED THE DOORS ON THEIR CARS AND
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TAKEN 'EM AWAY, UH, WITH THE VILLAINIZATION THAT WAS PUT UPON THEM.WELL, I DON'T THINK, I THINK THEY HAVEN'T LOCKED THE DOORS JUST BECAUSE IT'S A BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY.
NUMBER TWO IS I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I'M ON THE LEFT SIDE, SO I USE, UH, VIA THREE TIMES MM-HMM
FIRST TIME TO THE, UH, SILVER LINES.
OTHER TWO TIMES JUST GOING OUT WITH FRIENDS.
UM, TWO OF THE THREE TIMES, UM, THE, THE MAPPING SYSTEM, THEY WERE TRYING TO TAKE ME TO A BJ'S IN PLANO.
AND HAD I NOT BEEN AN ADDISON RESIDENT, I WOULD'VE BEEN GOING TO PLANO INSTEAD OF TO ADDISON.
THEY SAID THEY LIKED WORKING FOR VIA ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
IF WE TRULY WANT WHAT IS BEST FOR ADDISON AND HISS CITIZENS USING THE GENTLEMAN'S LANGUAGE, UM, VIA, AIN'T IT? OKAY.
ONE IS I FEEL LIKE VERY STRONGLY IS THAT IF WE HAVE DART, UH, WITH GOLINK, THEY ARE IN THE TRANSPORTATION BUSINESS AND UH, WE SHOULD USE THEM AS SUCH.
AND I REALLY THINK THAT IF DART IS WILLING, THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE SHOULD HAVE TO BE LEAVING ANOTHER $800,000 ON THE TABLE.
SO THAT IS WHY I AM DEFINITELY, UM, FOR GOLINK.
IT, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO PAY $800,000.
NOW, LIKE HE SAID, IF, YOU KNOW, IF DART, YOU KNOW, PAYS IT, OKAY, BUT IF, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT DART SAYS WE'RE GONNA USE, WE NEED TO USE THEIR SERVICES, THEN I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT IS IT GONNA COST THE CITIZENS OF ADDISON.
I'D LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL LADY, HAS SHE EXPERIENCED GOLINK? HAVE YOU WRITTEN GOLINK? YEAH.
CAN WE, WE, COULD WE EVERYBODY? I APOLOGIZE.
UM, I MEAN, IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
CAN, CAN WE GET A SHOW OF HANDS WHO'S, WHO'S WRITTEN GOLINK? OKAY.
UM, SO, SO I'VE WRITTEN GOLINK AND UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN YOUR PRESENTATION, I THINK YOU SAID DART'S PLANNING ONE, ONE, UM, DART GOLINK VAN.
AND THEN THEY ALSO PREDICT THAT THAT'LL HANDLE 50% OF THE TRAFFIC.
SO BASICALLY I THINK THEY'RE COMMUNICATING TWO VEHICLES ARE NEEDED.
ONE WOULD BE AN UBER, LYFT, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN THE OTHER, UH, GOLINK VEHICLE.
SO THERE'S A DISCONNECT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT VIA SAYING THEY NEED NINE OR WE NEED NINE, MAYBE WE NEED SEVEN, BUT WE GOT TWO BACKUPS.
SO MAYBE THERE'S SEVEN VIA IS BASICALLY SAYING WE NEED SEVEN VEHICLES.
ONCE WE, ONCE WE GET THE PRODUCT UP AND GOING, WHICH WE HAVEN'T DONE YET.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE DISCONNECT ON THE, THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES THE TWO COMPANIES ARE SAYING ARE NEEDED.
UM, UH, YOU SAID FARMER'S BRANCH HAS TWO MINIVANS? I BELIEVE SO.
UM, SO A FEW OF US HAVE BEEN OVER TO FARMER'S BRANCH AND, UM, AND THAT, UM, I THINK WE WAITED 45 MINUTES, UH, FOR THE, FOR OUR FIRST RIDE.
UM, BUT ONCE WE GOT OVER THERE, WHEN WE, WHEN WE WENT OVER THERE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE WE WERE BY THEIR, UH, THEIR RAIL STATION.
SO IT GOT FASTER AT THAT POINT, BUT, BUT THEY ARE USING, UM, A LOT OF UBER AND LYFT VEHICLES WITH THIS PRODUCT.
UM, AND THEN, UH, BRANDY AND I WERE OVER, UM, IN RICHARDSON OVER IN, UH, THEY CALL IT EAST, EAST TELECOM CORRIDOR, I BELIEVE.
AND SO THAT, THAT WAS A, UH, THAT WAS A BRUTAL, BRUTAL EXPERIENCE.
UM, ACTUALLY TOOK NOTES OF EVERY LITTLE THING THAT HAPPENED.
IT'S KIND OF HARD TO IMAGINE ALL THE THINGS THAT, THAT HAPPENED WITH THAT, WITH THAT, WITH THAT PRODUCT.
BUT, UM, IT MADE FARMER'S BRANCH LOOK LIKE A JOY RIDE.
UM, IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS PAINFUL.
UM, SO, SO THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE HAVE WITH ORBIT, UM, AND, AND THE PRO THE, THE QUALITY OF THE SERVICE, THE, UM, THE APP, THE ADDISON APP, IT'S SO MUCH THE ADDISON ORBIT APP IS SO MUCH EASIER TO USE THAN TRYING TO USE GO PASS TO GET A TICKET TO USE, POSSIBLY GO LINK UBER, LYFT.
UM, SO, SO THAT LEADS INTO BRANDING THE ADDISON ORBIT AND THE BRAND IS SO MUCH CLEANER, SO MUCH BETTER.
UM, THE PRICING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, IS, IS THIS GONNA BE PAID WITH, UH, GENERAL MOBILITY PROGRAM FUNDS FROM DART? UM, THAT, THAT'S THE BIG QUESTION.
UM, THE PROVIDER, YOU GOT ADDISON ORBIT, OR YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT GOLINK AND UBER AND LYFT AND UBER AND LYFT VEHICLES, AS WE ALL KNOW, THEY'RE NOT BRANDED.
WE HAD A, WE HAD A LYFT DRIVER PICK US UP IN THE STREET IN A THREE ON A, UH, A THREE LANE STREET.
UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S A
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WHOLE NEW LEVEL OF QUALITY THAT'S LACKING ON THAT PRODUCT.AND, UM, DEFINITELY WHAT I'VE SEEN WITH, WITH VIA IS, UH, THE FLEXIBILITY TO TWEAK THINGS AND CHANGE THINGS ON THE FLY.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S A, IT'S, UH, MAYBE A DAY-TO-DAY THING, TWO TO THREE DAYS AT THE MOST.
UM, AND THAT IS SO REFRESHING THAT WE CAN REFINE THIS PRODUCT THAT QUICK.
SO I, I, I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS PRODUCT, UM, UH, THIS ADDISON ORBIT PRODUCT, AND, AND MY HOPE IS THAT WE WILL JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY BEEN A MONTH.
LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST GIVE IT SOME TIME.
LET'S LET, LET'S GO THROUGH A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM.
LET'S, LET'S ALL TRY THIS THING WITH AN OPEN MIND AND, AND LET'S SEE WHERE, WHERE IT GOES.
BUT IF, IF, IF WE CAN KEEP THIS PRODUCT, KEEP THE PILOT, GO THROUGH A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, SEE WHERE THAT GOES, SEE WHERE, SEE WHERE DART GOES WITH THE GMP, I THINK THIS COULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND, AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDISON ORBIT VERSUS S GOLINK, IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE.
IT'S NOT IF YOU'VE, IF YOU'VE RIDDEN THE PRODUCTS, THAT'S THE KEY.
YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T READ ABOUT THESE PRODUCTS, EITHER ONE OF THEM BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT REALLY GONNA LEARN WHAT THEY ARE, WHAT THEY DO AND, AND HOW QUICKLY THEY OPERATE AND WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE AND CLEANLINESS AND ALL, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT GO INTO IT.
SO I'M, I'M FOR KEEPING THE, UH, ORBIT PILOT PROGRAM.
SO IF WE, UH, CONTINUE THE, UM, SIX MONTH PILOT, UH, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE COST, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE MUCH SCALED DOWN BECAUSE IT'S NOT REPLACING BUSES, IT'S, IT'S JUST DOING, UH, POINT TO POINT IN ADDISON.
SO IS THIS ACTUALLY WHAT, UH, THE REVISED, IS THAT AFTER REMOVING THE, UM, RALLY POINTS YES.
AND THE OTHER VOLUME THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES.
AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY, AND SO WE'VE ALREADY EXPENDED THE 83,000.
SO THE, THE RUNWAY RATE WOULD BE ABOUT A MILLION A YEAR, IS THAT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE? IF IT WAS, UH, CONTINUED THIS FOR 12 MONTHS AN ANNUAL, UH, THEY HAVE IT SET 849,000.
NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT PROPOSED ONE YEAR CONTRACT IS CORRECT? YES.
IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO TO SLIDE THAT'S GOT THE TWO TABLES ON GOLINK VERSUS, UH, ORBIT.
UM, SO THE, UH, ORBIT COLUMN IS THAT AS OF, UH, THE PROPOSED THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO THE NUMBERS UP THERE, LIKE THE SEVEN TOYOTA CS PLUS TWO SPARES? YES.
OR IS THAT AS IT WAS? NO, SO WE HAVE NOT, THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING, UH, CHANGING THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES RIGHT NOW.
AND I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST TO EXPLAIN THIS.
I HAVE AARON HERE JUST IN CASE.
SO REALLY THEIR NUMBER, SO THEIR 61 10 A VEHICLE HOUR IS NOT BASED ON THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT ARE IN THE FLEET.
THE, THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES IN THE FLEET IS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF HOURS THEY THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE ON THE ROAD.
SO RIGHT NOW, REDUCING THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES DOESN'T REALLY SAVE US ANY MONEY.
IT ACTUALLY GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY OF AS WE ROLL THIS OUT, HAVING THAT EXTRA COVERAGE SURE.
SO THAT WE KNOW WHERE, WHERE WE NEED IT.
NOW, AFTER SIX MONTHS, WE WOULD WANT TO COME IN WITH THAT DATA AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF 5:00 AM RIDERS, OR WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RIDERS DURING THIS TIME, SO WE CAN MOVE, MOVE AROUND DRIVERS.
BUT A PER HOUR COST WOULD STAY ABOUT THE SAME.
SO WERE THERE, UM, THE A DA COMPATIBLE OR A DA COMPLIANT, UM, IS THAT WHEELCHAIR COMPLIANT? YES.
SO THAT'S THE, THE THREE WAVE VEHICLES I'VE LEARNED WAVE IS WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES.
I HAD TO ASK, I'M LIKE, WHAT IS A WAVE VEHICLE? UH, SO YES, WE CURRENTLY IN OUR FLEET HAVE THREE WAVE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES.
AND, UM, SO ON THE MARKETING THAT WAS DONE BEFORE, WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS MARKETING WAS LIKE ZERO BECAUSE, UH, THE TOWN DIDN'T WANT TO LOOK LIKE THEY WERE TRYING TO INFLUENCE THE ELECTION.
IS THAT TRUE? I WOULDN'T, NO, I WOULDN'T SAY ZERO.
IT WAS VERY, UM, INFORMATIONAL AS IN, HEY, WE HAVE THIS OPTION, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO, THIS IS HOW YOU GET SIGNED UP.
I WOULD NOT SAY IT WAS USING A MADE UP TERM.
IT WASN'T VERY MARKETY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO I, I THOUGHT IT WAS INTENTIONALLY VERY SUBDUED.
SO IT WOULDN'T, NOT, IT, IT WAS SUBDUED, BUT IT WAS INFORMATIONAL.
'CAUSE IT WASN'T TRYING TO SKEW THE ELECTION AT ALL.
I, I WOULD SAY EVEN SINCE THE ELECTION, WE'VE ALL, WE HAVE, WE'VE ALSO BEEN SUBDUED.
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CONTINUE THE PILOT, WE WOULD DO MORE MARKETING.WE WOULD HAVE OUR, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO THE VIDEOS, THE FUND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PROBABLY A VIDEO OF SOMEONE TAKING IT TO, UM, THE SILVER LINE, JUMPING ON THE SILVER LINE, DOING THINGS LIKE THAT JUST TO, UM, MARKET IT MORE, GO TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HOTELS AND THE BUSINESSES.
WANT TO, THAT'S, THAT'S MY OBSERVATION IS WE DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THE REGULAR ADDISON MARKETING OR I'M SURE WHAT, UH, VIA WOULD BE MARKETING.
UM, SO I DID RIDE, UM, GOLINK, UH, FOUR OR FIVE, SIX TIMES OR SO.
AND, UH, YOU CAN, SO I, I'LL, I'LL, UH, DIFFER ON THE GO PASS.
I THINK GO PASS IS A VERY GOOD APP.
UH, IT RUNS MANY, MANY OTHER AGENCIES BESIDES DART.
THEY MAKE SOME MONEY ON IT, AS A MATTER OF FACT.
UM, AND THE ORBIT APP WOULD PLUG RIGHT INTO, UM, THE GOLING SYSTEM THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO, AND VICE VERSA.
UM, SO PLANO AND FRISCO ARE ALREADY STARTING THIS ALSO.
I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE USING VIA, UH, TO, TO RUN THEIR, THEIR STUFF.
AND FRISCO AND MCKINNEY, ONE OF THOSE TWO, AND I KNOW THEY'RE USING DCTA.
SO FRISCO IS PARTNERING WITH DCTA, WHICH IS VA DCTA PARTNERS WITH VIA PLANO.
UM, THEY ACTUALLY REDEVELOPED THEIR PRODUCT.
SO IF YOU REMEMBER INITIALLY THEY WERE GOING TO USE IT AS A MICRO TRANSIT MM-HMM
AND TO FILL IN SOME GAPS WHERE DART DIDN'T COVER, THEY HAVE MADE IT FOR MORE OF A SENIOR TRANSIT, IF I'M CORRECT.
SO IT'S MORE OF A SENIOR TRANSIT, BUT YES, THEY'RE USING A, A SIMILAR MODEL, BUT FOR A DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC.
SO MARLON COULD WRITE IT, AND I COULDN'T
SO, UM, WHEN MY EXPERIENCE ON GOLINK WAS REALLY, REALLY VERY USEFUL TO ME, UH, GOLINK COVER, UH, THE GOLINK ZONE IS A FARMER'S BRANCH ZONE, AND IT, UH, ACTUALLY COVERS FOR TRIVION IN CASE PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO ANYWHERE, THEN YOU HAVE TO GO THAT DIRECTION TO WEST TO FARMER'S BRANCH.
SO THAT'S THE DIRECTION I, I PICKED IT UP AT, AT, UH, VITRUVIAN.
AND, UH, I WROTE IT ON THAT THOSE TWO DAYS, UH, FOUR TIMES, AND, UH, THREE TIMES IT WENT TO LYFT.
AND, UH, LYFT, I RIDE UBER AND LYFT HUNDREDS OF TIMES, SO I'M REGULAR RIDER OF IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GET? I'M A GUY, NOBODY WANTS TO MESS WITH ME.
UM, BUT IF YOU HAVE VULNERABLE PEOPLE, THEY FEEL A LOT LESS COMFORTABLE IN RIDE SHARE.
THAT'S, THIS IS KIND OF SOME OF MY, UH, OPINION ON THIS.
AND LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE TIMES THREE, THREE OR FOUR TIMES OUT OF FOUR OR FIVE TIMES, IT'S GONNA BE THE RIDE SHARE, ESPECIALLY WITH ONE DEDICATED VEHICLE.
AND THAT'S JUST THE FACT OF THE MATTER, MY EXPERIENCE ON ORBIT, UH, CLEAN, OBVIOUSLY BRAND NEW CARS, DRIVERS FRIENDLY, FULL-TIME DRIVERS OF VIA VERY GOOD.
UM, SAME WITH, UH, GOLINK, UH, DART, UH, DART EMPLOYEES, VERY PLEASANT PEOPLE.
UM, THE VANS WERE CLEAN, PUBLIC TRANSIT, OF COURSE, THEY WEREN'T, WEREN'T AS NICE, BUT THEY WERE RELIABLE.
UM, SOME OTHER, UH, COMMENTS HERE.
I, I DO THINK THAT, UH, LAST MILE TRANSIT IS IMPORTANT IN ADDISON, I THINK, UM, FOR THE BUSINESS ENGINE MOSTLY, UH, FOR THE BUSINESS ENGINE, FOR THE TRAVELERS, FOR THE VISITORS, FOR THE WORKERS AS WELL.
UM, AND I, UM, I WOULD WANT, UH, LEMME JUST SEE IF I MISSED ANYTHING.
I, I WOULD SAY ALSO THAT BETWEEN GOLINK AND ORBIT, IT IS NOT CLOSE.
IT'S, IT'S A QUITE A CHASM OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
UM, I, I, I DO, I WOULD LIKE, UH, THE OUTCOME I WANT IS WHAT WE HAVE WITH ORBIT.
AND IF GOLINK CAN MATCH THAT, THEN THAT WOULD WORK FOR ME.
UH, THE RIDE SHARE, UH, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE, IT'S JUST NOT, UH, NOT A GOOD OPTION.
AND THIS IS JUST, UH, UH, FROM INPUT FROM PUBLIC.
A WIN-WIN WOULD BE, UH, TO LET DART BE ABLE TO BE FLEXIBLE LIKE THEY SAID THEY WOULD AND, UH, UH, FUND THIS, THIS WOULD BE LESS THAN THEIR 1.6 MILLION.
I'M NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS CIRCULATOR.
I THINK THIS POINT TO POINT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE CIRCULATOR FOR US.
THAT WOULD BE SCALING THEIR, UH, SPEND DOWN FROM LIKE 1.6 MILLION FOR ADDISON DOWN TO ONE MAN.
I THINK THAT'S A WIN-WIN SHOWS DART BEING ABLE TO MOVE AND, AND CHANGE LIKE THEY SHOULD WITH THEIR, UH, WITH, FOR THEIR, UH, CITIES AND THEIR CLIENTS.
UM, I, I STRUGGLE WITH, UM, SPENDING MORE MONEY ON GO ON, UM, ON ORBIT.
THAT'S, I STRUGGLE WITH SPENDING MORE MONEY ON IT IF IT'S, UH, PROVIDED BY, BY DART.
BUT IF DART WERE TO FUND IT, IT, I WOULD A HUNDRED PERCENT JUMP ON INTO THAT.
I THINK IT'D BE A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
SO, UM, THANK YOU VIA FOR BEING HERE.
UM, CERTAINLY THANK YOU TO THE RESIDENTS THAT VOTED IN OUR LAST ELECTION, BECAUSE I DO VALUE THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS AND THOSE INPUTS.
UM, WHAT I'M MOST PLEASED ABOUT IS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE DART SITUATION THAT HAD COME TO HAND WITH THEIR, THEIR LEADERSHIP CHANGE.
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IT PRETTY CLEAR, UM, THAT HE WAS FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL FOR GOVERNANCE CHANGES.SO I HAD FULL FAITH IN, IN WHAT HAD TRANSPIRED, UM, NEW CEO COMING ON BOARD.
LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING THAT INDIVIDUAL.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE GOVERNANCE CHANGES.
LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THE RTC BRINGS TO THE TABLE IN TERMS OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE SILVER LINE AND REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION.
UM, I'M JUST THRILLED THAT YOU KNOW, THE, THE ELECTION'S BEHIND US NOW, IT'S LOOKING FORWARD.
UM, THE WHOLE GOAL OF THE ADDISON ORBIT WAS TO CERTAINLY DO A TEST MODEL TO SEE WHERE THE NEEDS WERE.
DO VITRUVIAN RIDERS WANNA RIDE IT MORE? DO PEOPLE WANT TO EVENTUALLY TAKE THIS TO THE GALLERIA MALL? UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE WANNA LEAVE, UM, THE SILVER LINE TO GET TO WORK, LET'S SAY IN SOME OF OUR RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS? FOR ME, THE UPSIDE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS.
UH, BUT I CERTAINLY FEEL AS THOUGH HAVING A VEHICLE, A SOLE VEHICLE, IS NOT GONNA COVER THE NEEDS OF OUR TOWN'S CONSTITUENTS OR THE VISITORS.
I THINK WITH THE MULTIPLE VEHICLES THAT ORBIT IS OFFERING RIGHT NOW, AND I'VE SEEN THEM SPOTTED AROUND TOWN, I'VE RIDDEN THE PRODUCT, IT'S PHENOMENAL.
I, I WROTE, AS MARTIN ALLUDED TO, UM, THE DART PRODUCT.
I'M NOT LOOKING TO CRITICIZE ONE OVER THE OTHER.
I JUST WANT MORE MOBILITY FOR OUR SENIORS.
UM, THE ONLY THING I COULD SAY, AND I WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER WAS VIA NOT DOING AGE VERIFICATION, WHICH I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT PLAINTIFF'S GONNA BE DOING A SENIOR MODEL.
HOW DO YOU VERIFY YOU'RE A SENIOR? I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT VALIDATING THE, THE DATE OF BIRTH.
SO I THINK THAT'S IN, IN VIAS HANDS TO CORRECT OR SOMEHOW FIGURE THAT OUT.
UM, I'D LOVE TO SEE VEHICLES, WHETHER THEY BE DART OR VIA SITTING AT OUR RESTAURANTS, SITTING AT THE NEW DAX HOTEL.
I'D LOVE TO SEE 'EM IN THE RENAISSANCE PARKING LOT SO THAT WHEN RESIDENTS COME IN OR VISITORS COME IN, OR, UM, I'M THINKING ABOUT FIFA WORLD CUP, THERE'S GONNA BE JUST A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTING TO GO POTENTIALLY THE LONDONER AND PUT A FEW PINTS IN THEM.
I DON'T WANT DRUNK DRIVERS ON OUR ROADS.
I JUST, I WANT THESE PEOPLE OFF THE ROADS.
UM, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE USES THAT, UH, MY WIFE AND I, YOU KNOW, HAD, HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IS IF WE WANNA HAVE A SECOND GLASS OF WINE, WELL WE'LL JUST ORBIT HOME.
I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE WAS, THERE'S NO REASON TO THINK WE'D HAVE TO USE A LYFT OR, UM, UBER PRODUCTS.
SO IF THEY'RE LISTENING, YOU KNOW, COMPETITION'S A GOOD THING.
AND I, I REALLY FEEL AS THOUGH THIS VIA PRODUCT, YOU KNOW, CHANEL YOUR, YOUR COMMENT THAT VIA IS NOT IN THE TRANSPORTATION BUSINESS.
I THINK IT'S AN UNFAIR COMMENT TO THEM.
'CAUSE THEY ARE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE AROUND, THEY'RE AROUND THE COUNTRY.
THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A FEW YEARS, AND THEY'RE CERTAINLY IN A LEARNING CURVE.
UM, SO I JUST THINK THAT THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT IS WHERE WILL THINGS GO WITH THE NEW LEADERSHIP AT DART IN TERMS OF THEIR WILLINGNESS TO CHANGE.
AND I HOPE AND PRAY THAT THAT WILL BE THE CASE, THAT IT'LL BE A WIN-WIN FOR ALL RESIDENTS, UM, IN AND OUT OF ADDISON.
SO I AM IN FAVOR OF CONTINUING THE TEST OF THE PILOT.
UH, I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF COMMENTS I'D LIKE TO MAKE, UM, UH, GENERALLY ALIGNED WITH YOU GUYS ON THIS.
UH, I DID, I DID, UH, I DID A FIELD TRIP THIS MORNING ON GOLINK.
IT WAS, UM, IT WASN'T TERRIBLE, BUT IT WASN'T TERRIBLE.
I, I CAME DOWN HERE, GOT ON THE TRAIN, WENT TO DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON STATION, ORDERED TO GO LINK TO TAKE ME UP TO SUPER H MART, JUST TO, FOR A PLACE TO GO.
AND, UH, AND UBER CAME AND PICKED ME UP AND IT WAS MIDSIZE.
SUV, LIKE A LOT OF THE VEHICLES ARE VERY DIRTY INSIDE.
UH, IT WAS HOT WHEN I GOT IN 'CAUSE HE HAD NOT BEEN RUNNING THE AIR CONDITIONER UNTIL I GOT IN THE CAR.
SO THAT WAS UNCOMFORTABLE RIDE.
AND THEN I WAITED UP THERE A LITTLE WHILE, CAME AND THEN CALLED AND ORDERED ANOTHER ONE.
AND THEN LYFT CAME AND PICKED ME UP TO TAKE ME BACK TO DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON, UM, CLEAN CAR.
BUT IT WAS A, IT WAS A RUN OUT TOYOTA CAMRY WITH SHOCKS THAT MAKE YOU GO LIKE THAT WHEN YOU GO DOWN THE ROAD.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
WHEN THEY GET 200,000 MILES ON 'EM, NOT A PLEASANT RIDE.
NOT AGAIN, NOT TERRIBLE, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU GET WITH UBER AND LYFT AND ANY OTHER RIDE SHARES.
YOU'RE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA SHOW UP.
AND THE QUESTION I KEPT ASKING MYSELF, IS THIS WHAT WE WANT TO SUBJECT OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR HOTEL GUESTS AND OUR BUSINESSES, THE EMPLOYEES THAT COME HERE? IS THIS WHAT WE WANTED TO SUBJECT THEM TO WHAT WE WANT FOR PART OF OUR BRAND? AND MY ANSWER WAS, NO, WE, BECAUSE WE, ADDISON DOES THINGS BETTER.
THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR HISTORY, THAT'S OUR BRAND.
THAT'S OUR REPUTATION THAT WE HAVE.
AND FOR ME TO, UM, SETTLE FOR THE, FOR THE OTHER AND KNOWING THAT 70 TO 75% IS GOING TO BE FROM UBER AND LYFT AND THEY SAY 50, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY KNOWABLE.
WE JUST, WE CAN GO WITH WHAT THE FACTS THAT WE HAVE IS 70%.
UM, THAT'S NOT THE BRAND THAT I WANT TO HAVE,
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AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A SELLING POINT FOR THE TOURISM DEPARTMENT OR THE HOTELS WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO GET BOOK GROUPS INTO THEIR HOTELS.WELL COME HERE AND WE HAVE THIS THING THAT YOU CAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA SHOW UP, BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT WHAT ORBIT DOES WITH THE ADDISON BRANDING ON THERE, THAT'S SOMETHING THE HOTELS CAN SELL TO AS A DIFFERENTIATOR.
WHEN YOU'RE IN SALES, YOU WANNA DIFFERENTIATE YOURSELF.
SO WHAT MAKES YOU SET YOU APART FROM THE OTHER, OTHER CITIES THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER TAKING OUR CONFERENCE TO? THAT'S A DIFFERENTIATOR.
THE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME ABOUT THIS IS NOT JUST BEING ABLE TO MOVE FOLKS AROUND, BUT MOVE AROUND SAFELY.
WE, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE SAFETY ASPECT OF OUR HOTEL GUESTS AND BUSINESSES, WALKING FROM THE, THE WEST SIDE OF THE TOLLWAY TO VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY AND HAVING TO WALK ACROSS THE TOLLWAY, CHEATING DEATH EVERY DAY THEY DO IT.
I GET SO NERVOUS WHEN I SEE THEM DOING THAT.
THIS, THIS HELPS WITH THAT SAFETY SIDE OF IT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT FOR ME, I, I THINK THE TOWN DOES HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT IF WE CAN.
AND GOLDLINK IS NOT GONNA BE A DRAW FOR THEM FOR, FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE KIND OF SITUATIONS.
'CAUSE MOST PEOPLE JUST WON'T, THEY WON'T DO IT.
ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE HEARD SO MANY TIMES OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS WAS, NO, NOBODY RIDE START.
THERE'S NOBODY ON THE TRAIN, NOBODY'S ON THE BUSES.
BUT WE HEARD THAT PLENTY OF TIMES.
IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE RIDERSHIP, IT HAS TO BE EASIER FOR THEM.
IT HAS TO BE MORE CONVENIENT FOR FOLKS TO COME HERE TO THE STATION AND THEN THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, THEY GOTTA CALL SOMEBODY.
BUT IF THEY CAN HAVE IT AS PART OF THEIR ON THE GO PASS.
AND I AGREE WITH DARREN, I THINK THE GO PASS APP IS ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD.
UM, IF THEY CAN HAVE IT AS PART OF THAT AND KNOW THAT THEY CAN GET TO THEIR FINAL DESTINATION EASILY ENOUGH.
UM, I THINK THAT DOES INCREASE RIDERSHIP AND IT TAKES PEOPLE TO OUR ADDISON RESTAURANTS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE GONNA TAKE THEM TO ADDISON RESTAURANTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE TO THAT.
AND I KNOW OUR RESTAURANTS LOVE IT.
AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE COMMENTS I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE, THE HOTELIERS.
THEY LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING, BEING ABLE TO OFFER SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO THEIR, TO THEIR GUESTS.
UH, I DON'T THINK I AGREE WITH DARREN.
I DON'T THINK THE CIRCULATOR IS AN ISSUE AND NOT EVEN A, NOT EVEN A CONSIDERATION FOR ME AT THIS POINT.
'CAUSE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE EMPTY MOST OF THE TIME.
THAT ONE WOULD BE GOING UP IN THAT QUORUM.
CAN YOU IMAGINE? UM, AND MAYBE, MAYBE WE CAN GET DART TO FUND SOME OF THIS.
MAYBE SOME OF IT CAN COME FROM TID.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHER OPTIONS TO GET SOME FUNDING.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT CREATIVELY AND THEN LOOK FOR OPTIONS TO DO IT TO PROVIDE A SERVICE.
BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS CAN BE A DIFFERENTIATOR FOR US AS A CITY.
YOU KNOW, WHEN IF, IF, WHEN SOMEBODY'S LOOKING, WHERE AM I GONNA MOVE MY BUSINESS? WHERE AM I GONNA BRING MY CONFERENCE? WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT US? OUR LOCATION IS GREAT.
WE DON'T HAVE THE SHINY NEW STUFF TO THE NORTH, BUT WE HAVE, THIS IS ONE MORE VALUE ADD THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT.
UM, DO I DO, I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT MAYBE SURE.
MAYBE, UH, VNAS ANSWER, UH, ON, JUST AS A, AS AN ASIDE, THEY ARE, THEY ARE IN THE TRANSPORTATION BUSINESS.
I THINK THAT'S THE NAME OF THE COMPANY IS VIA TRANSPORTATION, IF I REMEMBER.
UM, SO QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, ONE, ONE COMMENT I HAVE, AND I I THINK Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT ALREADY AROUND THE ISSUES WITH THE, THE NAV THAT THEY'RE USED.
WHICH IS SOMETIMES IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE HUMOROUS, THE ROUTES THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE GIVEN.
UH, BUT THAT'S GOTTA BE FIXED.
AND IF, AND IF THEY COULD BECOME, UM, ADDISON EXPERTS, HAVE YOU HAVE SPECIFIC DRIVERS THAT THEY'RE WORKING THE ADDISON ROUTE, THEN THEY START TO KNOW THE SAME SHORTCUTS AND THE BETTER ROUTES THAT WE KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVE THE LOCAL KNOWLEDGE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT, GREAT PLACE TO DO, GREAT WAY TO DO THAT.
UH, I'M CURIOUS AS TO HOW MANY ORBIT VEHICLES HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY ON THE STREET EVERY DAY.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN, IF THERE'S 2, 3, 4, 5, IF THERE HAVE BEEN SEVEN.
I JUST DON'T, I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT NUMBER.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT I DO, YOU KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, LIKE THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THERE AT ONE, BECAUSE MY SENSE IS IT'S BEEN A SMALL NUMBER BECAUSE OF THE RIDERSHIP HAS BEEN, YES.
I WOULD SAY AT MOST FOUR AT ONE TIME.
BUT I, AND I FORGET WHO SAID IT, BUT I THINK SEEING THEM POSTED UP DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AROUND THE TOWN FOR VISIBILITY, THAT JUST DRIVES THE RIDERSHIP OF THAT.
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IF WE WERE TO DO ORBIT LONG TERM, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT LOOKS LIKE? HOW LONG, HOW, HOW MANY MILES OR HOW, HOW LONG ON THE ROAD THERE? I'LL LET YOU SPEAK TO THAT, YOUR HONOR.AND IF YOU DON'T MIND TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE SURE.
HI, AARON GIBO, DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS VIA, UH, HERE COVER OUR NOR, UH, TEXAS SERVICES.
UM, WE, WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK THE CONTRACT TOO.
SOME OF OUR PARTNERS, WE HAVE CONTRACTUAL LIMITS.
UM, MOST OF THEM IT'S UP TO LIKE, MUST BE BELOW A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES AND FIVE YEARS OR NEWER.
SO THAT'S A TYPICAL REPLACEMENT CYCLE.
UM, YEAH, I I REALLY THINK THAT'S IT.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK EVEN IF, EVEN IF DART COULD, WOULD AGREE TO BRAND SOME OF THEIR GOLDLINK VEHICLES WITH ADDISON, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH OF THEM THAT ANYBODY EVER WOULD EVEN NOTICE, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
I'D LIKE TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN GET DARK OR SOME OTHER FUNDING FOR IT.
SO I DON'T REALLY WANT THE RESIDENTS TO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
THE RESIDENTS WILL GET A LOT OF VALUE OUT OF IT.
UH, I I TRULY BELIEVE THAT, UM, NOT ONLY FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR OWN USE, BUT ALSO FOR WHAT IT CAN DO FOR THE TOWN AS A BRAND AND, AND INCREASE THE, UH, MAYBE IT HELPS INCREASE THE O OFFICE OCCUPANCY HOTELS.
IT JUST DRIVES MORE BUSINESS TO ADDISON.
SO ANYWAY, I THINK, UH, I THINK RANDY, YOU MIGHT BE UP.
YEAH, I'VE JUST GOT A QUICK ON THE FUNDING.
ONCE AGAIN, I'LL SAY I DON'T WANT IT TO CAUSE THE, THE, THE RESIDENTS ONE MORE PENNY.
UH, BUT YOU BROUGHT IT UP SEVERAL TIMES IN YOUR STATEMENT AND IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP SEVERAL TIMES TONIGHT.
IT GETS PEOPLE INTO THEIR HOTELS.
IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OF, OF USING THE HOT FUNDING, UH, ON THAT TO, TO OFFSET A LITTLE BIT O ON ON THE YEAH, THERE MIGHT BE THE TEA PET, THEY'RE GONNA SPEAK, SPEAK TO THAT.
YEAH, I THINK, YEAH, THERE'S A COUPLE BUCKETS, BUT I THINK THE MOST LIKELY ONE WOULD BE THE TPI THAT JUST GOT DEVELOPED BY THE HOTELS.
SO I THINK HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE TI BOARD ABOUT USING SOME OF THOSE FUNDS IS, IS CERTAINLY AN OPTION AND WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, AS WAS, AS BEEN MENTIONED A FEW TIMES, THE HOTELS ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
SO HAVING A DEDICATED, UM, SERVICE FOR THEM WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
SO THAT CERTAINLY IS A FUNDING SOURCE.
IS THERE, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OF A HOTEL OR A RESTAURANT OR A OFFICE BUILDING SPONSORING OFFSETTING COST? HAVE A HAVE A ADVERTISEMENT OR, OR, OR A SPONSORSHIP IN THIS TO WHERE IT DOES IT CASE? NO.
WELL, I'M JUST SAYING, I MEAN, THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS WE CAN, I LOVE THE SERVICE.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY.
THE RESIDENTS DO GET A LOT OUTTA THIS, BUT THEY PAY A LOT OF TAXES NOW UNTIL WE CAN GET THEIR TAXES DOWN.
I DON'T WANT IT TO COST HIM A PENNY MORE.
AND I'M JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH INVENTIVE WAYS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THIS SERVICE THAT THEY'VE MISSED OUT ON.
AND I THINK WE CAN KEEP, KEEP LOOKING FOR CREATIVE WAYS TO DO THAT.
AND THAT'S ALL I'M, IT'S JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION AND YEAH.
ONE QUESTION FOR ASHLEY, WHILE YOU'VE STILL GOT ME THE MIC.
IF WE CANCELED TODAY, I BELIEVE YOU SAID WE'RE BASICALLY AT $200,000 MM-HMM
THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT WHAT IT'S GONNA COST US IF WE CANCELED ADDITIONAL BE FINE ADDITIONAL.
I THOUGHT SHE HAD A TOTAL, IF WE, IF WE CONTINUE FOR THE SIX MONTH PERIOD, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THERE? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, HOW MUCH IS THAT GOING TO BE? IT'S 200 2220 1000.
WE, WE'D SAVE $200,000 BY CANCELING TODAY, BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE SERVICE.
THE SERVICE OR THE INFORMATION.
I MEAN THE INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD GAIN FROM A PILOT PROGRAM.
AND AND REMEMBER THIS IS A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT.
IT'S BASED ON OF TRIMMING THIS EVEN A LITTLE FARTHER TO KNOCK THAT $500,000 NUMBER DOWN.
AND YOU SAID WHILE AGO, I, I SCRATCHED MY QUESTION OUT WHEN YOU SAID IT, REDUCING CARS WOULDN'T DO THAT.
MY QUESTION WAS GONNA BE CAN WE GO FROM THE NINE CARS TO FOUR? RIGHT.
SO REALLY IT COMES DOWN TO THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLE HOURS.
HOW, HOW MUCH DO WE WANT PEOPLE ON THE ROAD? UM, SO WE COULD TAKE THAT 7,460 HOURS DOWN.
UM, BUT DO WE WANT TO, WITHIN THAT SIX MONTHS, WHEN DOES, WHEN DOES THE $61 AND 10 CENTS START, WHAT, UH, 61 10 PER VEHICLE PER HOUR TO RUN? CORRECT.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS PER VEHICLE.
I'M GONNA LET AARON IT'S VEHICLE HOUR.
SO, VEHICLE, VEHICLE, CORRECT.
EVERY HOUR THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT ARE RUNNING AROUND TOWN, WE ARE
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REDUCING THE 60, THE HOURLY RATE, CORRECT? MM-HMMNO, BECAUSE THE HOURLY RATE IS BASED ON, UM, IS NOT JUST BASED ON THE QUANTITY OF THE FLEET, BASED ON SOME OTHER FACTORS.
AND WHAT YOU SAID IS CORRECT, YOU SAID RUNNING AROUND TOWN.
AND THAT'S WHY THE ESTIMATE'S GONE DOWN FROM 8 49 TO 5 38 BECAUSE THEY'RE SAYING THEY ESTIMATE THERE'LL BE LESS VEHICLES RUNNING AROUND TOWN.
WELL, MY OTHER QUESTION WAS WHEN DOES THE, WHEN DOES THAT START? IF IT'S SITTING IN THE GARAGE, WE'RE NOT BEING CHARGED.
WHEN, WHEN ARE WE STARTING TO BE CHARGED THE HOURLY RATE AND FOR HOW MANY? FOR IT'S WHEN THE DRIVER IS IN THE VEHICLE AND AVAILABLE TO TAKE TRIPS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS THOUGHT.
THAT NOT, IT'S NOT CHARGED FOR WHEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE ENGAGED WITH A CLIENT.
I MEAN, THAT'S, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT VIA IS CONSTANTLY DOING IS LOOKING AT WHEN THAT DEMAND IS.
IF THEY'RE NOT SEEING ANY DEMAND AT A CERTAIN TIME OF DAY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THREE DRIVERS SITTING AROUND WAITING FOR A CALL.
WELL, THAT'S MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT IS THAT I THINK OUR HOURS NEED TO BE TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO BE GOING TO MIDNIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO BE STARTING AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, WHICH IS ALL THAT DATA THAT WE HOPE TO GET.
THAT CAN ALL, THAT CAN ALL BE ADJUSTED.
AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THE SYSTEM.
WE'RE MUCH MORE NIMBLE WITH THIS.
I, YOU KNOW, OTHER CITIES WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER TOWNS, THEY'VE COME UP WITH A STRATEGY OF IT'S $3 IF YOU ASK FOR A RIDE AND THEN A DOLLAR FOR EACH ADDITIONAL PASSENGER, YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU AND YOUR ME AND MY WIFE WANNA GO TO DINNER, IT'D BE $4 INSTEAD OF SIX.
BUT ALL OF THAT CAN BE TALKED ABOUT LATER.
AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THIS SYSTEM IS IT IS ADJUSTABLE.
NOPE, YOU WERE ACTUALLY OH, AHEAD.
SO, UM, WHERE, WHERE ARE WE FUNDING THIS FROM NOW? SO WE DID A BUDGET AMENDMENT, UM, FROM OUR RESERVES, YOU KNOW, IN MARCH UNTIL WE HAVE THE FUNDING AVAILABLE.
SO WOULD WE, SO GENERAL FUND IS, IS TAX, TAX DOLLARS, RIGHT? YEAH, IT IS PROPERTY TAX.
SO IF WE CANNOT PAY FOR MOST OR ALL OF THIS FROM GENERAL FUND, UM, THAT WOULD MAKE ME VERY HAPPY.
UH, IF DART PAYS FOR IT, THAT'D MAKE ME EVEN HAPPIER.
AND I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF DART IF, IF DART'S THINKING ABOUT THIS, IT'S GONNA INCREASE THEIR RIDERSHIP ALSO ON THEIR OTHER PARTS OF THE DART SYSTEM, ESPECIALLY SILVER LINE.
SO IF THEY WANNA DRIVE RIDERSHIP ON SILVER LINE, MAKE IT EASY TO GET ONTO SILVER LINE, GET OFF AT ADDISON AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR YOUR LAST MILE.
SO HOPEFULLY DART'S GONNA WATCH THIS.
UM, I'M A, AGAIN, IT CAN JUST KIND OF SEAL THIS IN FOR ME IS, UH, I THINK THE BRANDING IS, IS HUGE AND I THINK THE LOCAL CONTROL IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THING THAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS.
'CAUSE YOU, YOU CAN CONTROL THE SERVICE LEVEL, YOU CAN CONTROL THE QUALITY, YOU CAN CONTROL THE SAFETY, YOU CAN CONTROL ALL OF IT.
AND WHEN IT GOES THROUGH DART YOU HAVE LESS CONTROL AND DARTS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A TERRIBLE PRODUCT.
IT'S JUST NOT GONNA BE, UM, AS NICE AS ADDISON.
AND, AND I THINK THE IMAGE OF WHAT WE WANT TO, UH, THIS IS A, A, A CHANCE FOR US TO BE DIFFERENT AND TO BE A HIGHER, MUCH, MUCH HIGHER QUALITY.
SO THAT'S, UM, I THINK THAT'S WHERE I'M GONNA LEAVE IT WITH THOSE, UH, THREE LAST QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
AND DAN, LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE NEXT.
SO BACK TO THE POINT I WAS, I FORGOT TO REITERATE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BACK TO THE, UM, THE RESTAURANTS AND BARS THAT WE HAVE OPEN TILL MIDNIGHT OR AFTER KNOWING WE HAVE THE CUTOFF AT MIDNIGHT.
COULD A CAR BE REQUESTED AT 11:59 PM AND BE PICK SOMEONE BE PICKED UP AND TAKEN? OR ARE THEY GONNA CUT THAT SERVICE OFF 10 MINUTES PRIOR TO MIDNIGHT, 15 MINUTES PRIOR TO MIDNIGHT? IS THERE A BUFFER AARON? YEAH, UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, AS WE GET APPROACHED THE CLOSE OF SERVICE, THE VEHICLES DO GET ROUTED BACK TOWARDS, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR HOME LOCATION, WHICH IS HERE, UH, BY TOWN HALL.
UM, SO, BUT WE DO HAVE DRIVERS THAT WE ACTUALLY DO KEEP THEM ON THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT PAST THAT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT VERY LAST TRIP.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT SERVICE HOURS YOU WANT TO SET FROM A POLICY.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE SOME PARTNERS WHO DO DIFFERENT SERVICE HOURS, DIFFERENT DAYS OF THE WEEK.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WANTED TO STAY OPEN LATER ON SOME NIGHTS, YOU CAN CERTAINLY ACCOMMODATE THAT.
SO BACK TO BRANDY'S POINT ABOUT, LET'S SAY VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.
MANAGEMENT WANTS TO SPONSOR VIA ADDISON ORBIT AND HAVE TWO VEHICLES ON FRIDAY NIGHTS, SATURDAY NIGHTS, KEY HOURS OF NIGHT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT DRUNKS GETTING VEHICLES OR PEOPLE THAT JUST WANT THAT CONVENIENCE FACTOR.
ARE YOU DOING THAT IN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY? CAN ACTUALLY ANSWER THAT TWO PARTS.
'CAUSE IT'S GOT TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS THERE.
SO ONE IS, DO WE OPERATE LIKE SAFE RIDE HOME TYPE PROGRAMS? AND THE ANSWER IS YES FOR THAT.
UM, PARTICULARLY IN SOME DIFFERENT COLLEGE TOWNS AROUND THE COUNTRY, BUT ALSO IN OTHER AREAS.
AND THEN THE OTHER PART IS ABOUT ADVERTISING.
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WE DO HAVE SOME SERVICES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT DO THAT AND HAVE DIFFERENT FUNDING PARTNERS.SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN TO ADVERTISING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO.
THAT'S GOOD NEWS TO HEAR THAT WE COULD HAVE A REVENUE DRIVING COMPONENT TO THE VIA ADDIS NORBIT.
UM, BACK TO BRUCE'S POINT, BRUCE, IT BE, WOULD YOU HAVE FELT MORE COMFORTABLE HAD YOU GOTTEN IN THAT CAR, UM, ON THE GO PASS IF, IF THE LYFT CAR THAT PICKED YOU UP ON THE SECOND TRIP AND I ALWAYS SAY THEY CAN SWITCH A SWITCH WITH THE LIFT ON AND OFF IN THEIR WINDSHIELDS, WHAT IF IT SAID DART ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE DOOR, LIKE A MAGNETIC STICKER? WOULD YOU HAVE FELT MORE COMFORTABLE KNOWING, OH, THERE'S MY DART RIDE BY LIFT OR THE FIRST RIDE? IT WOULDN'T HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE TO ME.
I MEAN, I, I DIDN'T FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE GETTING IN.
'CAUSE I DO RIDE SHARE ALL THE TIME AS WELL.
BUT I MEANT FROM A BRANDING PERSPECTIVE, YOU WERE TRYING TO BRAND THE PRODUCT.
WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU NOT WANT IT TO SAY DART? NO, I DON'T THINK THAT HELPS.
YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T THAT, THAT TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE WANNA HAVE, THAT DOESN'T HELP ON, ON THE, ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.
THAT DOESN'T HELP FOR, FOR A TRANSIT AGENCY.
CHANEL, SO YOU SAID THAT YOU, YOU ALL HAD A CONVERSATION TODAY WITH DART.
WHAT DOES THAT CONVERSATION CONSIST OF? ARE THEY OPEN TO PAYING FOR THIS SERVICE? ARE THEY LEANING TOWARDS IT? ARE THEY, I LIKE TO KNOW, ARE THEY OPEN? HAVE THEY EVER SAID THAT? NO, WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT.
WE GO, I, SORRY, I ASKED THE QUESTION TODAY.
THEY SAID THEY WERE OPEN FOR THE CONVERSATION IN BOTH.
ONE POTENTIALLY PROVIDING FUNDING FOR IT.
TWO, TAKING WHAT WE LEARNED OVER A SIX MONTH PILOT PROGRAM, HOWEVER LONG IT WOULD TAKE AND POSSIBLY MOLDING GO, UH, GO LINK TO WHAT MAKES CI IN ADDISON.
SO THEY WERE OPEN TO BOTH OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND WERE HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
AS I SAID, I MEAN I THINK A LOT OF JUST GREAT THINGS THAT I HEARD, I'VE HEARD OVER THE PAST, YOU KNOW, FEW WEEKS FROM THEM, UM, IN THAT REGARD OF, HEY, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE ARE TAILORED TO EACH CITY AND WHAT MAKES SENT SENSE IN EACH CITY.
SO A GREAT CONVERSATION AND THEY SAID THEY WERE OPEN TO IT.
SO THEY DID SAY THEY WERE OPEN.
SO THEY MIGHT BE OPEN TO FUNDING THIS WHOLE THING.
'CAUSE IF THEY ARE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION BECAUSE AS THE GENTLEMAN SAID, I JUST DON'T WANT TAXPAYERS TO HAVE TO ABSORB ANOTHER RIGHT.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T GUARANTEE EXACTLY WHAT LEVEL OF FUNDING LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK JUST THE FACT THAT THEY'RE OPEN TO IT IS, IS A GOOD STEP.
DO I THINK YOU HAVE THE DIRECTION YOU NEED FROM US? YES.
GONNA ASK DAVID ONE MORE QUESTION.
IF WE CONTINUE THIS SIX MONTH
SO I THINK AS WE APPROACH THE SIX MONTH, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THEM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON DO WE CONTINUE OR NOT.
WE WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE A DEAD PERIOD.
SO I THINK AS WE APPROACH THE END OF THE SIX MONTHS, WE'LL HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNSEL AND WE'RE ALSO HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH DART ABOUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND OTHER REVENUE SOURCES.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE TALKED ABOUT THE GMP, SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS TO BE HAD WITH DART OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
SO, UH, DAVID HAS WHAT HE NEEDS FROM US.
WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? WHAT ALL WE, THE ONLY QUESTION WE ASKED WAS DO YOU WANNA CONTINUE THE PILOT? WE, WE CERTAINLY HAVE DIRECTION TO CONTINUE THE PILOT MM-HMM
NOW THE NEXT QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A TRANSIT COMMITTEE OR DO YOU WANT SOME OTHER FORM OF STAYING ABREAST OF, UM, DART MOBILITY ISSUES? SO AS WE'RE FUNDING THIS GOING FORWARD, UM, IS IT GONNA BE FROM OTHER NON-GENERAL FUND FUNDS? WELL, THE PILOT PROGRAM IS ALREADY FUNDED THROUGH A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
SO WE ALREADY HAVE, WE HAVE FUNDING SET ASIDE FOR THAT.
SO IF WE WERE TO CANCEL IT, THEN THAT MONEY WOULD GO BACK IN THE, DO WE GO BACK INTO THE, NOT TO THE GENERAL FUND.
IT WOULD GO TO THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND IT CAME FROM, BUT ULTIMATELY THAT WAS FUNDED FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
SO THAT'S THE QUESTION, UH, ABOUT DO WE WANT ON THE NUMBER TWO ON TRANSIT COMMITTEE, IS THERE INTEREST IN FORMING A TRANSIT COMMITTEE? WE TWO MORE HOURS TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
NOW WOULD THIS, THIS NEEDS, THIS IS A YES OR NO? SO I, UH, INTERESTED, I ORIGINALLY WAS MORE IN FAVOR OF THIS AND, AND EVEN I BACK IN DECEMBER, I SUGGESTED IT, UH, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT, UH, WE WANTED TO HAVE MORE TRANSPARENCY AND VISIBILITY FROM A COUNCIL STANDPOINT ABOUT WHAT WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT FROM MOBILITY.
UH, JUST KIND OF RECONSIDERING THAT.
I, I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN GET TO WHAT, WHAT'S INTERESTING TO WHAT'S OF INTEREST TO ME, UH, THROUGH, UM, MORE OF A STRATEGIC PROCESS THAT WE USE THAT WOULD BE THE FRIDAY NEWSLETTER, UH, UH, ENGAGEMENT AND, UM, AND VARIOUS, UH, CADENCE OF, UH, COUNCIL WORK SESSIONS BASED ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE ACTIVITY IS.
MAYBE WE HAVE A QUARTERLY UPDATE OR IF IT'S MORE ACTIVITY, THEN WE'LL HAVE LIKE A MONTHLY
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UPDATE OR A MONTHLY WORK SESSION ITEM.UH, SO I'M NOT THAT IN FAVOR OF, OF HAVING A COMMITTEE.
YOU WERE A WHILE BACK, BUT NOT SO MUCH ANYMORE.
MARLON? YEAH, I'M VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT HE SAID.
UM, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THESE QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORTS LIKE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE TONIGHT.
UM, AND, AND WE ALSO HAVE ANNUAL REPORTS FROM POLICE AND FIRE.
I, I LIKE THE THING, THE THOUGHT OF HAVING A MOBILITY QUARTERLY REPORT, UM, THAT MAYBE SOMEBODY LIKE ASHLEY CAN PROVIDE TO US.
AND THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE THINGS LIKE, UH, VIA, AND THAT WOULD BE THINGS LIKE DART AND MAYBE WAYMO AND WHATEVER, WHATEVER COTTON BELT TRAIL UPDATE LEGISLATION, UH, STUFF RELATED TO DART AND OTHER MOBILITY.
SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS, IS LIKE A QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT.
AND OF COURSE THERE'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S TIME PRESSING THAT'S GONNA NEED TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL MOBILITY RELATED.
AND THAT'LL, THAT'LL COME ON ITS OWN AGENDA ITEM.
BUT, BUT, UH, I MAINLY AGREE WITH, WITH WITH DARREN.
OTHER THAN IT, I WANT IT TO BE A QUARTERLY THING RATHER THAN, RATHER THAN THE COMMITTEE.
CHANEL? YEAH, I DON'T SEE A NEED FOR TRANSIT COMMITTEE.
RANDY, I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT A TRANSIT COMMITTEE LOOKS LIKE.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FORMING LIKE A BOND COMMITTEE TO WHERE WE WE APPOINT PEOPLE OR IS IT GONNA BE COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER? COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MAYBE A HOTEL REP IF WE CAN GET A QUARTERLY REPORT AND, AND OTHER MAYBE AGENDA ITEMS ALONG THE WAY.
I THINK WE HAVE A SEVEN MEMBER COMMITTEE HERE RIGHT NOW THAT THEY CAN PERFORM THIS.
WOULD CREATE SOME EXTRA MEETINGS FOR FOLKS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE UPSIDE.
ALRIGHT, SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THAT.
YOU'VE BEEN DOING YEOMAN'S WORK ON THIS.
UH, ALRIGHT, SO OUR OTHER ITEM
[b. Present and discuss the Town of Addison FY 2026 Second Quarter Financial Report.]
THAT WE HAVE OUR WORK SESSION ON ITEM SIX B PRESENTED, DISCUSS THE TOWN OF ADDISON FY 2026 SECOND QUARTER FINANCIAL REPORT.LET ME ASK THE COUNCIL ON THIS, UH, WE HAVE THE FINANCIAL REPORT IN OUR PACKET.
UH, DO, ARE YOU DYING TO SEE THE PRESENTATION OR ARE YOU CONFINED WITH READING THE, UH, REPORT? I'M, I'M GOOD WITH JUST READING THE REPORT.
I'M GOOD WITH JUST READING THE REPORT.
ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT, UH, ITEM SIX B IS DONE EIGHT, SIX A, SIX B DONE.
SO THAT'S THE END OF OUR WORK SESSION.
SO WE'LL GET READY FOR OUR REGULAR MEETING.
LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND WE'LL UH, RECONVENE IN FIVE MINUTES IN THE, UH, IN THE BIG ROOM.
IT IS 8 26 AND WE WILL RECONVENE THE COUNCIL INTO
[ COUNCIL MEETING The Addison City Council will convene for a Council Meeting beginning at 7:00 PM in the Town Hall Council Chambers.]
OUR REGULAR MEETING.AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.
AND, UH, UM, AS ALWAYS, WE LIKE TO START OUR MEETING WITH THE PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS.
IF YOU, IF YOU PLEASE RISE A PLEDGE OF TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TWO, THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
[2. Proclamations / Presentations]
ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD.WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS TWO A IS CITY MANAGER'S ANNOUNCEMENTS AND TWO B IS EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION.
UH, JUST A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT.
ADDISON'S COMMUNITY GARAGE SALE IS BACK MAY 30TH THROUGH 31ST.
THIS IS A NEW FORMAT WE STARTED A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
YOU CAN PLAN YOUR ROUTE TO REGISTER SALE LO TO TO REGISTERED SALE LOCATIONS USING AN INTERACTIVE DIGITAL MAP ONLINE@ADDISONTX.GOV SLASH GARAGE SALE BEGINNING WEDNESDAY, MAY 27TH.
THE MAP ALSO INCLUDES HOURS OF OPERATION AND A BRIEF AND BRIEF DESCRIPTIONS OF ITEMS AVAILABLE AT EACH STOP.
NEXT, YOU'RE INVITED TO COPY WITH A COP ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 10TH FROM NINE TO 11:00 AM AT DOLCE PARADISO.
WHETHER YOU WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT OR SIMPLY SAY HELLO, COPY WITH A COP IS A GREAT WAY TO CONNECT WITH THE OFFICERS WHO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY EVERY DAY.
TOWN POSTCARDS ARE EXPECTED TO HIT RESIDENT MAILBOXES LATER THIS WEEK.
THE POSTCARDS HAVE ALL THE DETAILS ON HOW TO SECURE FREE RESIDENT TICKETS BEGINNING JUNE 1ST AND KABOOM TOWNS JUST AROUND THE CORNER.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR EMPLOYEE SPOTLIGHT AND I'LL ASK CHIEF ALEXANDER TO COME ON UP.
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COUNCIL CJ ALEXANDER, YOUR FIRE CHIEF.THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
AND HERE I AM PLEASED TO INTRODUCE CAPTAIN CHAD GROOVER, WHO GREW UP IN PLANO, TEXAS.
HE'S A GRADUATE PLAYING FROM PLANO SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL BEFORE CONTINUING HIS EDUCATION AT STEPHEN F. AUSTIN AND COLLIN COLLEGE, WHERE HE MAJORED IN FIRE SCIENCE.
HIS DEDICATION TO LEARNING AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT HAS SHAPED A LONG AND MEANINGFUL CAREER WITH THE TOWN OF ADDISON, WHERE HE BEGAN SERVING THE TOWN IN 1999.
FAMILY IS ONE OF HIS GREATEST SOURCES OF PRIDE IN HIS LIFE.
CHAD HAS FOUR WONDERFUL CHILDREN, PEYTON GROOVER, WHO IS ACTUALLY A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON AS WELL.
MCCLAIN 26 WORKS AS A REAL ESTATE AGENT.
KAYLEE 21 IS A SENIOR AT MARIA HARDIN BAYLOR AND CURRENTLY COMPLETING A BUSINESS INTERNSHIP AT DISNEY WORLD HUDSON, WHO IS 13 PROUDLY SAYS THAT HE PLANS TO BE A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON WHEN HE GROWS UP AS WELL.
WATCHING HIS CHILDREN SUCCEED AND FIND JOY IN WHAT THEY DO IS HIS PROUDEST PERSONAL ACCOMPLISHMENT.
PROFESSIONALLY, HE IS ESPECIALLY PROUD OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHEAT AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND INSTRUCTIONAL CONFERENCE.
BEING ABLE TO SHARE THE WORK AND INNOVATION OF THE ADDISON FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH FIRE SERVICE PROFESSIONALS FROM AROUND THE WORLD HAS BEEN AN HONOR AND HAS A HIGHLIGHT OF HIS CAREER.
OUTSIDE OF WORK HE ENJOYS PLAYING GOLF AND BY HIS OWN ADMISSION, PROBABLY PLAYS MORE THAN HE SHOULD.
A LOYAL DALLAS COWBOY FAN, WHICH I LOVE, BRINGS, UH, THAT SAME ENTHUSIASM AND ENERGY INTO EVERYTHING THAT HE DOES.
WHEN ASKED WHAT MADE HIM WANT TO APPLY FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON, HE SHARED THAT HE GREW UP ATTENDING ADDISON SPECIAL EVENTS AND ALWAYS VIEW THE ADDISON FIRE DEPARTMENT AS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE REGION.
THAT REPUTATION, WHICH STILL HOLDS TRUE TODAY, MADE ADDISON THE PLACE HE WANTED TO SERVE.
TO HIM, THE ADDISON WAY MEANS TAKING CARE OF RESIDENTS AND COWORKERS THE WAY HE WOULD WANT HIS OWN FAMILY TREATED.
IT MEANS DOING WHAT IS EXPECTED AND THEN GOING, UH, BEYOND EXPECTATIONS TO MAKE SOMEONE'S DAY BETTER.
IT REFLECTS A COMMITMENT TO SERVICE, COMPASSION AND PRIDE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT CHAD HAS.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING CHAD, CAPTAIN CHAD GROOVER.
APPRECIATE THANK YOU, APPRECIATE YOU ALL SO MUCH.
[3. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.]
ALL RIGHT.ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.
COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS.
AND, UM, THE COUNCILS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON ANY DISCUSSED, UH, ANY DISCUSS OR DISCUSSING THE ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
AND, UH, CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW AND COUNSEL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
UH, CO COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT ITEM
[4. Consent Agenda. All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]
AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.CONSENT TONIGHT INCLUDES ITEM FOUR A THROUGH FOUR H.
IS THERE A MOTION? MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO PULL, UH, FOUR F PLEASE.
AND I'D LIKE TO PULL FOUR D, FOUR F AND FOUR D.
AND IS THERE A MOTION FOR TO APPROVE THE OTHER ITEMS? UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THE OTHER ITEMS. SO THAT'LL BE ITEMS FOUR.
A, B, A, B, C, G, AND H-N-E-N-E, SORRY, NE, G AND H.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THOSE ITEMS ARE APPROVED.
AND UH, MARLENE, YOU WANNA GO FIRST ON
[f. Consider action on a Resolution approving a service agreement with CTJ Maintenance, Inc. for janitorial and day porter services at Town facilities and authorize the City Manager to execute the agreement in an amount not to exceed $322,080.00.]
FOUR F? YEAH, I'D LOVE TO.UM, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR BILL HOLLY, PLEASE.
HEY, BILL, I NOTICED ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, WE, UH, IT WAS GREAT TO SEE WE HAD A LOT OF BIDDERS ON THIS, BUT THAT'S GREAT.
UM, BUT WHAT, WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR AND DIDN'T SEE IS SOME OF OUR JANITORIAL SERVICES, UH, BIG, BIG PROVIDERS LOCATED IN ADDISON'S, UH, KNIGHT JANITORIAL SERVICES, JANA KING, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THE JANA KING.
UM, AND SO, UM, I WANTED TO ASK YOU THIS WITH EVERYBODY SO THAT WE COULD ALL HEAR THIS QUESTION, BUT, SO I DON'T THINK THESE FOLKS KNOW, UM, ABOUT OUR BID PROCESS BECAUSE I, I BELIEVE THEY WOULD'VE WANTED ONE OR BOTH WOULD'VE WANTED TO BID FOR THIS.
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AND, AND IT'S NOT JUST THEM, IT'S OTHER, YOU KNOW, OTHER SERVICES.I THINK YOU MENTIONED SCOTT AND REED.
UM, THEY JUST LEARNED HOW TO USE OUR, OUR BIDDING PROCESS.
SO COULD YOU KIND OF SHARE WHERE THEY WOULD GO OR WHO THEY WOULD CONTACT SO THAT ALL THE COUNCIL, 'CAUSE WE'RE INTERACTING WITH A LOT OF ADDISON BASED BUSINESSES AND I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT AND SHARE THAT.
UM, WE'RE GONNA MEET WITH, UH, NIGHT JANITORIAL SERVICES ON FRIDAY, AND SO I WANT TO, I WANNA SHARE THAT WITH 'EM.
COULD YOU, COULD YOU HELP US WITH THAT? SURE.
SO ANYTIME WE GO OUT TO BID, WE'LL POST IN THE, IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, WE'LL PUT IT ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE.
WE'LL ALSO DO, UH, UH, ANOTHER LARGE LIKE BID NET DIRECT OR OTHER ONLINE PLACES WHERE FOLKS BUSINESSES CAN REGISTER.
UH, AND THEN THE TOWN AND THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT HAS A GREAT PROGRAM WHERE BUSINESSES IN ADDISON AND AND OTHER PLACES CAN REGISTER.
AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE BIDS OF CERTAIN TYPES, BE IT FOR VEHICLES OR CERTAIN SERVICES OR CERTAIN PRODUCTS, THEY'LL FALL INTO THOSE CATEGORIES.
AND ANYTIME WE POST A BID, THEY'D ALSO GET NOTIFIED THAT WAY AS WELL.
AND OUR CONVERSATION OFFLINE, JUST A MINUTE AGO, I HAD A THOUGHT ABOUT WORKING WITH WAYNE TO TRY TO TWO-WAY WAYNE AND MARY SO WE CAN HELP GET THAT WORD OUT TO OUR BUSINESSES AND MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS AND, AND COMMUNICATE THAT THEY HAVE, UH, THOSE FOUR OPTIONS TO BE MADE AWARE OF OUR DIFFERENT BIDS AND THAT WE WOULD ALSO BE AWARE OF THEM AND THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE SO THAT WE CAN CLOSE THAT LOOP WHEN WE, WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES.
I, I THINK WAYNE AND HIS GROUP WOULD, THAT WOULD HELP THEM TREMENDOUSLY.
AS FAR AS THE WEBSITE, IS IT, YOU SAID BID NET DIRECT, IS IT BID NET? THAT THAT IS ONE OF 'EM.
UM, BID BID NET DIRECT.COM OR IT'S IN, IT'S IN THE AGENDA MEMO.
THE WEB, THE WEBSITE IS, YES, SIR.
UM, YEAH, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
SO WITH, WITH THAT, UM, I, I MOVED TO APPROVE OF FOUR F SECOND.
WE HAVE MOTION TO SECOND FROM DARREN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ONE OTHER QUICK COMMENT.
I, I'M, I'M WITH MARLON, I'M NOT KNOCKING WHO HAS GOTTEN THE BID.
UH, IT'S GONE OUT TO A BID PROCESS.
AND I'M SURE THEY DO GOOD WORK NOT KNOCKING THE COMPANY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US REACHING OUT TO LOCAL COMPANIES, WHETHER IT BE JANITORIAL OR WHETHER IT BE ARTWORK IN THE PARKS.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE US HAVE A, A NICE OUTREACH WITH LOCAL PATRONS.
AND WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR.
I, INSTEAD OF TELLING THEM TO, AND YOU TRYING TO REMEMBER BID NET.
IF YOU JUST TELL 'EM TO GO TO THE CONTRACT TO PROCUREMENT WEBPAGE ON THE TOWN OF ADDISON WEBSITE, IT'S GONNA HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THEY WOULD NEED.
AND SO THAT, SO THAT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR THEM TO GO WHERE THEY CAN JUST KINDA GET EDUCATED ON THE PROCESS TOO.
'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES IT'S, IT'S JUST KNOWLEDGE MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS.
ANY OPPOSED? I JUST HAD A COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, SO I THINK I ALREADY, EVERYBODY ALREADY SAID AYE.
WAS THERE ANYBODY, ANYBODY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.
[d. Consider action on a Resolution approving a construction services agreement with GSOT Services, LLC for the renovation of the Theatre Lobby Restroom Remodel Project in an amount not to exceed $121,960.70 and authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement.]
YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT FOUR D? YES SIR, PLEASE.I JUST LIKE A, A SCOPE OF WORK, UM, WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR $122,000 FOR A 150 SQUARE FOOT BATHROOM? SO, AND WHAT ALL DOES THAT INCLUDE? IS THAT ALL, IS THAT ARCHITECT? IS THAT DESIGN, IS THAT JUST WORK? I, I'D JUST LIKE THE SCOPE OF WORK ON THAT.
SO THAT IS THE WORK, IT IS THE RESURFACING, ALL THE, UH, RESURFACING THE FLOORS, NEW COUNTERTOPS, UH, REMOVING, UH, IF, IF YOU'VE SEEN THE MIRRORS, UH, AND THE KIND OF UNIQUE, UM, ARCHITECTURE OF THE, THE SINKS, THEY KIND OF LOOK LIKE A JAIL CELL SINK.
IF YOU, IF YOU'VE SEEN THOSE THOUGH, THOSE COME OUT.
UH, THE WALLS ARE REDONE, THE FLOORS ARE REDONE, THE PARTITIONS ARE REDONE AND THE LIGHTING IS REDONE.
AND THEN WE'LL MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO ENSURE WE COMPLY WITH CODES ON DISTANCES AND HEIGHTS AND OKAY.
I'VE REMODELED A LOT OF BATHROOMS. I'VE NEVER SPENT $122,000 ON A SMALL BATHROOM AND I JUST, I'M ASSUMING WE WENT OUT, WE, THE, THIS WENT TO BID AS WELL, SIR.
SO, AND THAT'S, THAT'S FOUR RESTROOMS. WELL THIS ONE, IT, IT SAYS THE LOBBY RESTROOM.
SO THERE IS FOUR LOBBY RESTROOMS. TWO
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DOWNSTAIRS, TWO UPSTAIRS.YOU SHOULD HAVE LED WITH THAT
IT'S STILL, THAT'S STILL A LOT OF MONEY, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS THE ONE BATHROOM DOWNSTAIRS IS WHAT WAS MAKING MY EYES.
NO, IT'S, IT'S THE FOUR AND THEN ALSO JUST NOT THAT IT, IT DOES PLAY A LITTLE BIT INTO IT.
WE HAVE VERY TIGHT TIMELINES WHEN THE FACILITY IS CLOSED.
UM, TWO WEEK PERIODS OF TIME, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA DO TWO OF THEM IN JULY AND THEN TWO OF THEM IN SEPTEMBER.
SO THE CONTRACTORS HAVE TO MOBILIZE TWICE, BUT THERE WAS JUST NOT, WE CAN'T HAVE THEM ALL DOWN AT ONCE AND THEN WE CAN'T HAVE THAT BLEED OVER AND FORCE THEM TO CANCEL ANY TYPES OF EVENTS BECAUSE IT TOOK A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO, TO PERFORM THAT WORK.
DO THEY NOT HAVE A, A TIME PERIOD IN WHICH THE, IT'S DARK ANYWAY THAT WHERE WE COULD UTILIZE TIME BETTER AND JUST KNOCK 'EM ALL OUT AT ONE TIME? NO, ABBY, AND THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER.
THE HAVE DONE A, THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
WE LOOKED, WE LOOKED FOR PERIODS OF TIME.
THAT'S WHY WE, WE'D HAVE LOVED TO HAVE GOTTEN THIS DONE EARLIER IN THE YEAR.
THERE, THERE JUST WERE NOT PERIODS OF TIME OTHER THAN THEY HAD, THEY INTENTIONALLY WENT DARK DURING THE KABOOM TOWN PERIOD AND THEN AGAIN DURING THE OCTOBER FEST PERIOD.
SO WE ARRANGED THESE TO HAPPEN WHEN THE BUILDING WAS DOWN ANYWAY, SO WE WOULDN'T OKAY, CALL.
I'M JUST RE I'M JUST REREADING IT AGAIN AND I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING YOU.
IT SAYS THEATER LOBBY RESTROOM, SO THAT'S WHAT, I'M SORRY, THAT IS WHAT MY CONFUSION WAS.
ALRIGHT, RESTROOM PROJECT REFER.
RESTROOM REMODEL PROJECT BY GOD.
IT'S A PROJECT WHICH INCLUDES THE FORM.
SO IT DOES SAY, UH, UH, LOBBY RESTROOMS. UM, NO, I WAS SURPRISED IT DIDN'T MAKE YOUR TEETH ITCH.
JUST PARDON? I WAS SURPRISED IT DIDN'T MAKE YOUR TEETH ITCH THIS TIME.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED IN ONE OF THE RECENT, UH, FRIDAY REPORTS WAS, UM, PICTURES OF THE A A C BATHROOMS, THE OUTDOOR BATHROOMS. I THINK THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN JUST THE LAST WEEK REPORT WHILE I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE PICTURES THAT WE HAD IN THE PRESENTATIONS BEFORE WHEN WE WERE MAKING THE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, DECISIONS TO HOW MUCH WE WERE GONNA SPEND ON THAT.
COULD WE GET CONSISTENT BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURES OF ALL OF THESE PROJECTS? I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY USEFUL FOR ME TO SEE WHAT, WHAT WE ACTUALLY GET OUT OF THIS MONEY THAT WE SPEND.
I'D LIKE TO, UM, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT.
AND THE BACKGROUND ON THIS I THOUGHT WAS, WAS PRETTY GOOD.
ALSO, I, I LOOK AT THE BACKGROUNDS AND THE, AND THE AGENDA.
I READ 'EM BECAUSE YOU WRITE 'EM AND I'VE ASKED FOR A LOT OF THINGS TO BE IN THERE, LIKE, WHEN DO WE DECIDE ON THIS? HOW IS THIS BUDGET AND HOW IS IT PAID FOR? AND THEN JUST OTHER DETAILS THAT, UH, ANSWERS QUESTIONS BEFORE THEY'RE ASKED.
UM, SO THE WRITEUPS HAVE BEEN GOOD.
UM, ON YOUR, UM, YOUR COOPERATIVE PRI PRICING STUFF SUCH AS BID NET AND THE OTHER ONE THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, UH, THOSE WERE ALL STANDARD, UH, THINGS THAT CONTRACTORS, UH, KNOW THAT THEY, THEY THEY GET ON, UH, LIKE TIPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE BUYING COOPERATIVES, RIGHT? WELL AGAIN, IT'S, UH, SOME PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THAT OBVIOUSLY AND OTHERS ARENT.
WE'VE, UH, SOMETIMES HAVE USED CONTRACTORS ON A VERY SMALL PROJECT MM-HMM
AND THEY DID GREAT WORK AND WE POINTED THEM TOWARDS THE TIPS PURCHASING OR SOURCE WELL OR OTHERS.
SO THEY GET REGISTERED, IT COSTS THEM MONEY TO GET REGISTERED.
IT TAKES SOME TIME AND EFFORT, BUT THEN THEY, THEY CAN GENERATE A LOT OF BUSINESS THAT WAY.
WELL, THEY HAVE TO HAVE UNIFORM PRICING AND, AND BETTER PRICING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND THERE'S SOME INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS WORKING FOR MUNICIPALITIES THAT MAYBE PRIVATE SECTOR DOESN'T HAVE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO YEAH, THE PICTURES WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL BEFORE AND AFTER.
AND I THINK THERE ARE PLENTY OF BUSINESSES THAT DON'T KNOW THAT HOW, HOW TO EVEN GET TO END THAT PROCESS.
THEY'VE NEVER DONE GOVERNMENT WORK AT ALL.
OH NO, I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION IF, WELL, I'D LIKE TO LET RANDY MAKE A MOTIONS TO SEE WAS ON TO PULLED IT IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE FOUR D.
WELL, THANK YOU RANDY AS WRITTEN AND CHANEL WANTS TO SECOND.
SORRY, MARLON, UH, MAY HAVE MOTION TO SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY YOUR OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, ITEM FOUR D IS ALSO APPROVED.
[a. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request to amend the permitted use and development standards for Planned Development, Ordinances No. O23-03, for a 31.608± acre property generally located at the southeast corner of Belt Line Road and Dallas Parkway, and addresses as 5100 Belt Line Road. Case 1948-Z/Village on the Parkway PD Amendment.]
FIVE A FIVE A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PERMITTED USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.NUMBERS OH TWO THREE DASH 0 3 4 A 31.608 ACRE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF BELTLINE ROAD IN DALLAS PARKWAY.
AND THE ADDRESSES AS 5,100 BELTLINE ROAD CASE 1948 Z SLASH VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY PD AMENDMENT.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR.
UM, TONIGHT I HAVE A PD AMENDMENT FOR VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY TO ADD A, OH, SORRY, CO BECK, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UM, THE PD AMENDMENT IS TO ADD A, UH, USE TO THE PERMITTED
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USES, UM, AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR, UH, THE EXISTING PD.UM, SO VILLAGE PARKWAY BEFORE IT BECAME VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, UM, WAS ZONED LOCAL RETAIL, WHICH ALLOWED FOR TYPICAL COMMERCIAL USES.
UM, IN 1996, THE PROPERTY WAS ESTABLISHED AS VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY WITH A PD, UM, UM, ZONING.
AND THAT WAS BASED WITH COMMERCIAL ONE USES AND INITIAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
UH, FOLLOWING THAT, THERE WERE TWO ADDITIONAL PD AMENDMENTS TO THE ORIGINAL 19 96 1, UM, WHICH INCLUDED, UH, SIGNAGE REMOVAL REQUIREMENTS AND, UH, MADE THE RETAIL TRACK AND A MIXED USE TRACK FOR, UM, UH, AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
THEN IN 2012, UM, THE, AS AS IT IS TODAY, PD WAS ESTABLISHED, WHICH HAD PERMITTED USES SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARD DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR VOP AS WE KNOW IT TODAY.
UM, THEN IN 2020 AND 2023, THERE WERE ADDITIONAL TWO, UH, PD AMENDMENTS THAT INCLUDED PARKING RATIO, UM, INCLUDED A NEW PARKING RATIO, VALET PARKING REQUIREMENTS, REGULATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR BLOCK 900.
THEN TODAY WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR A RECREATIONAL FACILITY INDOORS AS A PERMITTED USE TO ALLOW FOR AN ESCAPE ROOM.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED TO ADD RECREATION FACILITY INDOOR, UM, AND THAT IS DEFINED AS A COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL USE CONDUCTED ENTIRELY WITHIN THE BUILDING, INCLUDING ARCADES, BOWLING ALLEYS BILL, YOUR PARS SKATING RINKS, MOTION PICTURE, THEATERS, SPECTATOR SPORTS ASSEMBLY HALLS, ATHLETIC AND HEALTH CLUBS, AUDITORIUM OR EXHIBITION HALL, DANCE HALL, COMMUNITY CENTER, GYMNASIUM, SPORTS, SPORTS FIELDS, FIELD HOUSE POOL, SWIM POOLS, AND OTHER INDOOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE, UH, SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES THOUGH, SO JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR.
UH, THIS DEFINITION IS ACTUALLY, UM, DEFINED IN THE UNI UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UH, THIS IS NOT THE DEFINITION THAT THE APPLICANT HASN'T REQUESTED.
UM, UH, THE PROPOSAL IS IN, UM, ALIGN MEANT WITH THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, SO OUR VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY IS CONSIDERED AN URBAN VILLAGE WITH OUR PLA OUR NEW BRAND NEW PLACE TYPES, UM, WHICH IS TO PRIORITIZE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENTS AND CREATING A DENSE DEVELOPMENT, UM, WITH, UH, STRONG FINANCIAL RETURNS.
UH, ADDITIONALLY THE SPECTRUM OF CHANGE MAP, UH, WHICH IS ALSO IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, DOES HAVE THIS AREA AS AN ENHANCED AREA, WHICH MEANS THAT WE ARE WANTING TO, THAT THE TOWN IS EXPECTING IT TO EVOLVE GRADUALLY OVER TIME, UM, TO HAVE MORE WALKABLE AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, UM, UH, IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, RECREATION FACILITY INDOORS IS A PERMITTED USE WITHIN OUR COMMERCIAL LIMITED AND MIXED USE SUBURBAN CORRIDOR ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE BOTH COMPARABLE ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE WITH THE EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.
THE DIFFERENCE THOUGH IS, OR SORRY, THE, THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER, UM, ENTERTAINMENT FACILITIES THAT ARE, UH, OR USES ON VILLAGE IN VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE PUT SHACK THAT THAT BOX AND FLIGHT CLUB COMING SOON.
UH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE THOUGH ARE THAT THEY WERE PERMITTED UNDER THE OLD CODE
UM, THEY ADDITIONALLY INCLUDE A RESTAURANT, WHEREAS THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS TO ALLOW FOR, UH, ENTERTAINMENT USES RECREATIONAL FACILITY INDOOR WITHOUT RESTAURANT USE.
THERE'S NO PROPOSED CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS FOR THE PARKING OR LANDSCAPING ON SITE AND THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.
IT DOES HAVE MINOR UPDATES, UM, JUST PAINTING.
SO, UH, THEY DO HAVE A BLACK AND RED THEME GOING ON WITH THE ESCAPE GAME.
UM, JUST AND SIDE NOTE, UH, NONE OF THE SIGNAGE, UH, HAS BEEN REVIEWED OR APPROVED.
THIS IS JUST THEIR CONCEPT SKETCH.
WE DID NOTICE, UM, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WITHIN 200 FEET.
WE RECEIVED NO, UM, FEEDBACK BACK.
HOWEVER, WE DID HAVE INPUT FROM ONE RESIDENT AND IT WAS, UH, GENERALLY NEUTRAL AND THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU GUYS AS WELL.
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ON IN OUR, AT THE MAY MEETING AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO ADD ESCAPE ROOM AS A PERMITTED USE DEFINED AS COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL USE CONDUCTED ENTIRELY WITHIN A BUILDING INCLUDING ESCAPE ROOM.AND THAT WAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOUR TO ONE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND DETERMINED THAT IT COMPLIES WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
IF CITY COUNCIL DOES APPROVE THE PD AMENDMENT STAFF DOES RECOMMEND, UM, ADDING ESCAPE ROOM AS A PERMITTED USE WITH A DE DEFINITION FOR THE ESCAPE ROOM.
AS A COMMERCIAL INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT USE CONDUCTED ENTIRELY WITH AN ENCLOSED BUILDING IN WHICH PATRONS TYPICALLY IN A, UH, SMALL GROUP PARTICIPATE IN A TIMED THEMED INTERACTIVE GAME OR PUZZLE SOLVING EXPERIENCE WITHIN ONE OR MORE ROOMS OR ENCLOSED AREAS.
AN ESCAPE ROOM MAY INCLUDE ACCESSORY RECEPTION, WAITING BRIEFING, RETAIL SALES, OFFICE STORAGE, AND EMPLOYEE AREAS.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE A NIGHTCLUB BAR THEATER, HAUNTED HOUSE ARCADE AS A PRINCIPAL USE GAMBLING ESTABLISHMENT OR A LIVE PERFORMANCE VENUE UNLESS SUCH A USE IS PERMITTED SEPARATELY.
UM, I DO HAVE THE APPLICANT, UM, REPRESENTATIVES ONLINE AS WELL AS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY ONLINE AS WELL.
AND WE HAVE TWO, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE ONLINE BECAUSE ALL WE'RE ALL WE'RE SEEING IS ONE, IS THERE, ARE THERE ACTUALLY TWO? THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE
IT'S JUST THE WAY IT'S FORMATTED.
WAS THAT THE END OF YOUR PRESENTATION, COREY? YES.
UM, MARLA LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE FIRST YEAH, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.
SO ON THIS DEFINITION, IS THAT THE SAME DEFINITION AS IN AS IT AS IS LISTED IN THE ORDINANCE OR IS IT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT? UM, SO THE DEFINITION THAT'S ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS TO TRY AND DEFINE AN ESCAPE ROOM.
AN ESCAPE ROOM AS ITSELF IS NOT A, UH, USE OR DEFINITION IN THE U THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UM, SO WE, UM, WROTE WITH THE GUIDANCE FROM, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING A DEFINITION THAT DOES DESCRIBE THAT.
UM, AND BECAUSE PLANNING AND ZONING'S RECOMMENDATION WAS INSTEAD OF HAVING, RECOMMEND RECOMMENDING A, UM, RECREATION FACILITY INDOOR, UH, WHICH HAD A VERY BROAD, UH, AMOUNT OF USES UNDER IT, YEAH, THEY WANTED TO DEFINE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON JUST ESCAPE ROOM AS THE USE INSTEAD OF ALLOWING FOR OTHERS.
UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, IN THE ORDINANCE, IT LOOKS LIKE ESCAPE ROOM IS DEFINED IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE OR THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT? NO, IN THE ORDINANCE THAT'S ATTACHED TO THAT WE'RE VOTING ON.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT QUE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
UH, THAT'S THE DEFINITION, THAT'S THE SAME DEFINITION IS IN THE ORDINANCE.
IT'S, SO IF WE APPROVE THIS WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, THE, THE, THE WORDING THAT YOU'RE SAYING, DO WE NEED TO READ OUT THE ENTIRE DEFINITION OR IS IT ALREADY LISTED IN THE ORDINANCE? IF THERE'S A DEFINITION IN THE ORDINANCE, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S VERBATIM AS TO WHAT YOU'RE, UH, RECOMMENDING.
UM, I WILL PULL THAT UP BEFORE, UH, BEFORE YOU VOTE AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS THE SAME.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE SAME, BUT IT'S GOOD TO CONFIRM IT.
YEAH, THE, UH, JUST TO READ IT.
AND COUNCILMAN, UH, WILSON, THE, UH, ORDINANCE DOES CONTAIN THE LANGUAGE THAT, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING.
UH, THAT'S ALSO ON THE PRESENTATION, SO, OKAY.
SO IF SOMEBODY MAKES A MOTION, IF SOMEBODY MAKES A MOTION, DO WE NEED TO READ OUT THE ENTIRE DEFINITION? OKAY, THANKS.
SO, UH, P AND Z, THERE WAS ONE NAY ON THAT.
DO YOU, WHAT'S THE CONTEXT AROUND THAT? UM, THAT COMMISSIONER, SORRY, I HAD TO THINK BACK.
SO YOU MENTIONED UNDER THE O OLD CODE THIS WOULD BE ALLOWED, UM, UNDER OUR CODE PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAD A SECTION THAT ALLOWED, UM, ENTERTAINMENT USES, UM, VIA A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN P UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, HOWEVER, WHEN, UM, THE NEW CODE, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE WAS ADOPTED, UM, THAT SECTION WAS NOT CONTINUED.
UM, THAT USE WAS NOT CONTINUED IN THE NEW CODE.
UM, SO VOP UM, NO LONGER HAD THAT AS AN OPTION FOR THEIR SPECIFIC PD WITHOUT AMENDING
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THE PD.AND, UH, THERE WAS SOME, UH, SOME OF THE RESIDENT INPUT, UH, RAISE A CONCERN ABOUT FIRE, UM, CONCERNS, SAFETY AND CAPACITY MM-HMM
UH, HOW HAS THAT BEEN ADDRESSED? UM, SO ALL OF THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED WHEN THE BUILDING PERMIT, UM, IS SUBMITTED.
IT WILL, EVERYTHING WILL STILL BE EXPECTED TO COMPLY WITH BUILDING CODE AND FIRE CODE.
UM, AND, UM, OUR, UH, DEPARTMENTS THAT, UH, REVIEW THOSE WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IN COMPLIANCE.
WHAT WAS IN THAT SPACE BEFORE? UH, IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE A WHILE.
UM, AS FAR BACK AS I KNOW OF IT WAS THE, UM, LEASING OFFICE, BUT VOP, UM, UH, IS ON THE LINE, SO THEY COULD PROBABLY GIVE A BETTER HISTORY OF WHAT WAS IN THERE THAN I CAN.
AND, ALRIGHT, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS JACK CALDWELL WITH THE VILLAGE IN THE PARKWAY.
UM, TO, TO, TO OUR KNOWLEDGE THAT'S BEEN VACANT SINCE AT LEAST DECEMBER OF 2017.
UM, IT'S BEEN VACANT SINCE OUR PURCHASE FOR SURE IN 2021, BUT AT LEAST GOING BACK THROUGH OUR DILIGENCE, UH, IT'S BEEN VACANT SINCE II'S DECEMBER, 2015.
UM, AND I JUST WANNA DRILL DOWN AND, AND I WANT A YES OR NO ANSWER.
IF WE APPROVE THIS, IT IS ONLY FOR AN ESCAPE ROOM.
THEY CAN'T COME BACK AND PUT A BILLIARD.
I DON'T, I HAVE NO DESIRE TO HAVE A BILLIARDS PARLOR IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON.
AND IF THAT FALLS UNDER THE, THE MORE BROAD, AND I'M NOT SAYING THEY THIS OWNER WOULD DO THAT, I'M TALKING 20 YEARS FROM NOW, I DON'T WANT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A BILLIARDS TO COME IN.
SO IF WE VOTE ON THIS, IT IS STRICTLY FOR THE DEFINITION OF THIS ESCAPE ROOM, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
IF YOU, UH, UH, GO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR ESCAPE ROOM AS PERMITTED USE WITH THAT DEFINITION, IT WOULD ONLY BE FOR AN ESCAPE ROOM.
UM, A BILLIARDS, UH, ROOM OR A BAR OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED UNDER THE ESCAPE ROOM DEFINITION.
ANY OF THE OTHER DEFINITIONS ALLOWED OR JUST ESCAPE ROOM? UM, THE ESCAPE ESCAPE ROOM WOULD BE THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THE PERMIT.
SO IF AN ESCAPE ROOM GOES OUTTA BUSINESS, THAT'S ALL THAT CAN GO BACK IN THERE.
UM, THEY WITHOUT COMING BACK TO US.
UM, AND THIS WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE FOR JUST THAT SPACE.
THIS IS FOR THE ENTIRETY OF VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.
WHY ARE WE REZONING THE ENTIRE PROPERTY? WHY CAN'T WE BE SPECIFIC TO THIS OCCUPANCY? I I, I DON'T WANNA REZONE THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY FOR THIS.
I IF THEY WANT TO HAVE AN ESCAPE ROOM, I HAVE ZERO PROBLEM WITH THE ESCAPE ROOM.
IF THE FIRE CHIEF DOES IT, I ENJOY 'EM.
BUT WHY CAN'T WE JUST SAY IN THIS ADDRESS? WHY, WHY DO WE HAVE TO DO THE WHOLE PROPERTY? YEAH.
UM, IF THE, UM, UH, PD HAD ALLOWED IT AS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UM, THEN WE COULD GO FOR JUST THAT SPECIFIC TENANT SPACE.
UM, BUT SINCE IT WAS NOT A PERMITTED USE PRIOR TO THIS REQUEST, UM, THE WHOLE PROPERTY IS WHAT IS ZONED THAT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND THEN THEREFORE IT IS FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
SO IN ANY SPACE, IF ANOTHER ESCAPE ROOM WANTED TO COME IN, UM, THEY, AND IF THIS WERE APPROVED, UM, THEY WOULD BE ANOTHER ESCAPE ROOM WOULD BE ABLE TO GO IN ANY OTHER TENANT SPACE, UM, PENDING A VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY PROVING THAT.
WELL, I GET THAT, BUT THEY'D BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO US ALSO.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD BE FAR MORE INTERESTED IN A SPECIFIC FOR, FOR THIS ADDRESS RATHER THAN THE WHOLE PROPERTY.
CAN THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY TRIGGER ANY OTHER RAMIFICATIONS SUCH AS THEIR, THEIR TAX ABATEMENTS THAT THEY GOT? CAN WE, CAN WE READDRESS THE TAX ABATEMENTS THAT THIS CENTER GETS? BECAUSE NOW WE'RE REZONING THIS.
CAN WE LOOK AT THIS IN A MORE BROAD, THEY'RE WANTING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEIR ABATEMENTS WERE SAID TO DO.
UM, I WILL HAVE TO LOOK INTO INTER IT MAKE NO, I THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENT TOPIC.
I MEAN, THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.
I, UM, UH, AND LET'S TALK ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION.
DO THEY HAVE A AN HOURS OF OPERATION REGULATION ON THIS OR, OR WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO? UM, THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT FOR, UM, FOR HOURS OF OPERATION.
UM, I DID LOOK INTO THEM, BUT I DO NOT REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
HOWEVER, TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ESCAPE GAME, UM, ARE ONLINE AND THEY CAN, THEY COULD SPEAK TO WHEN WE GET TO THAT PORTION.
UM, THEY COULD SPEAK TO, UH, WHAT THEIR GENERAL HOURS OF OPERATION ARE AT THEIR OTHER LOCATIONS.
GENERAL HOURS OF OPERATION WOULD BE ONE THING, BUT US REQUIRING SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T RUN TILL THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING WOULD
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BE ANOTHER, LIKE A BAR.I, I WOULD BE FAR MORE RECEPTIVE TO THIS.
LIKE I SAY, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF ESCAPE ROOM.
I LOVE THEM, BUT I'M NOT WILLING.
IF WE REZONE THIS, AM I ASSUMING THAT THERE IS NO HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE ENTIRE CENTER? ARE THERE, ARE THERE NOW? UM, SO RESTAURANTS, UM, FOR THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, UM, AFTER, IF THEY CLOSE AFTER 11:00 PM UM, THEY DO REQUIRE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THAT.
UM, RETAIL ITSELF DOES NOT HAVE ANY HOURS OF OPERATION REQUIREMENTS, UM, PERSONAL SERVICES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THE REST OF THE USES DON'T, UM, THE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE THERE THAT HAVE SPECIAL USE PERMITS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM DO FOLLOW WHAT WAS APPROVED PER THEIR SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UM, AND ALL OF THOSE, UH, WOULD HAVE COME BEFORE COUNSEL AT SOME POINT.
AND WHERE DO THOSE, WHERE DO THOSE TYPICALLY RUN IF, IF THEY HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT? WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE STANDARD FOR THAT? YEAH, UH, THE LATEST IN V UH, VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY IS 2:00 AM.
UM, AND, BUT WITH MAJORITY OF THE RESTAURANTS CLOSING AT 11, UM, 11 TO 12 IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE.
I I I WOULD TRULY LIKE TO SEE AN HOURS OF OPERATION RESTRICTION ON THIS AS WELL.
NOT AT EIGHT O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, BUT I, I THINK 11 OR MIDNIGHT IS CERTAINLY AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO SHUT THESE, TO SHUT THE DOORS DOWN ON THIS.
UM, AND FOR NOW, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
DO YOU KNOW WILL THEY'D BE SERVING ALCOHOL? UH, THEY WOULD NOT BE, UM, ALLOWED TO, 'CAUSE THEN IT WOULD BE A RESTAURANT AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THEIR REQUEST IS FOR.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
THEN, UH, JACK, YOU'RE ON THE LINE WITH VISIT ON THE PARKWAY.
UM, I BROUGHT THIS UP EARLIER ABOUT ADDISON ORBIT AS A MICRO TRANSIT.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT AND MAYBE HAVE YOUR, UH, RESTAURATEURS OR YOUR, YOUR VENTURES LOOKING INTO IT.
UM, YEAH, I'VE GOT A QU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS MAY REALLY KIND OF ONE PRIMARY, BUT A COUPLE I GUESS.
SO THE IMAGE OF THE RE THE, THE RENDERINGS OF THE FRONTAGE THAT YOU SAID, THAT THAT'S JUST, UM, IT'S, IT'S JUST A RENDERING, CORRECT? YEAH.
THE COLOR SCHEME I BELIEVE IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING FOR.
UH, BUT NONE OF THE SIGNAGE OR GRAPHICS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED OR APPROVED, UM, PER THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE ALLOWANCES.
AND IS THAT REVIEW AND APPROVAL DONE BY STAFF? YES.
UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE PROBABLY GOES MORE TO JACK, UM, AROUND THE MOST COMMON COMPLAINT I HEAR ABOUT VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, AND THAT'S PARKING.
TWO THINGS ABOUT PARKING ONE, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE BEEN ASKED A QUESTION, WHEN ARE THEY GONNA PUT ANOTHER PARKING GARAGE IN AT VOP SOUTHEAST QUADRANT DOWN THERE? SEEMED LIKE A GREAT PLACE TO PUT THAT.
SO THAT'S PART ONE OF MY QUESTION.
THE PART TWO OF MY QUESTION FOR JACK IS, UM, VALET PARKING.
IF YOU WANNA GO TO THREE FORKS, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, PIE TAP, SO MANY PLACES OVER THERE, YOU HAVE TO PARK CLEAR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, OF THE CENTER BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE SPACES COVERED BY VALET PARKING.
AND THAT JUST DOES NOT SEEM LIKE THE RIGHT WAY TO DO BUSINESS.
AND I'D, I'D LOVE TO SEE YOU ALL MAKE SOME CHANGES WITH THAT.
JACK, I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOUR POSITION WILL BE ON THAT AND FIND THE PARKING GARAGE.
UM, AND, AND WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE VALET PARKING ISSUE.
UH, WE ACTUALLY HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, WESLEY NIP OF TOWN OF ADDISON.
AND, UM, WE ARE REDOING THE VALET.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE THE SPOTS OUTTA THE MIDDLE OUT IN FRONT OF THREE FORKS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE IS AN APPROVED VALET ORDINANCE, UH, THAT WE HAVE AND THAT WE WERE ACTUALLY JUST SENT PRETTY RECENTLY.
SO, UH, WE ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT OUR CUSTOMERS HAVING TO WALK VERY FAR TO, TO GET TO THE PLACES IN THE CENTER.
UM, A AS FAR AS THE PARKING GARAGE, WE, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS, BUT WE, WE HAVEN'T MOVED ON ANY, UM, ACTUAL TRUE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PARKING GARAGE, UM, IN, YOU KNOW, THE SOUTHEAST CORRIDOR.
DO YOU, DO YOU ANTICIPATE ANYTHING GOING THAT DIRECTION? YOU KNOW, I, I'LL TALK WITH OWNERSHIP, BUT WE, WE REALLY HAVEN'T, UM, FOCUSED ON THAT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE DISCUSSED IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY BEEN, UH, SOMETHING WE, WE PUT A LOT OF EFFORT TOWARDS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I I THINK WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A, A NEED FOR MORE PARKING.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TRY TO GO THERE AT LUNCH, I, I FEEL THE SAME WAY.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THEY'RE OPEN TO IT.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE JUST HAVEN'T REALLY PUSHED ON THAT VERY HARD RECENTLY.
AND I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE SO SUCCESSFUL THAT WE DO HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM.
BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UM, ENCOURAGE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE TO, TO DO, TO
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LOOK FOR A REAL SOLUTION WITH THAT.UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT, AND I SEE PLENTY OF TIME, SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY WON'T, THEY WON'T COME TO ADDISON BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND A PLACE TO PARK.
UM, AND NOBODY WINS WITH THAT.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
UH, RANDY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? I DO.
I, IT'S ONLY TO AGREE WITH YOU ON THE VALET AND ALL THE SPACES TAKEN UP WITH VALET AND YEAH, MY WIFE WILL NOT PARK IN THAT PARKING GARAGE.
DOES NOT FEEL SAFE WALKING DOWN AND THROUGH THE PARKING CENTER.
AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING? ALRIGHT, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO SO? AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE AND, UH, BY ADDING ESCAPE ROOM AS A PERMITTED USE WITH A DEFINITION OF ESCAPE ROOM AS, AS IS SHOWN IN THE ORDINANCE.
I'LL SECOND IN THE MOTION FROM DAN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN, AN AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION THAT WE LIMIT THE HOURS, HOURS TO TWO TWO A TO FIT INTO THE REST OF IT WITH 2:00 AM MANDATORY CLOSING TIME AT 2:00 AM ALRIGHT, I'M NOT HEARING A SECOND.
THAT OMITTED THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
SO THERE WAS AN ACTUAL SECOND MOTION WITHIN OUR MOTION.
SAY AGAIN? THERE'S A MOTION WITHIN OUR MOTION.
THERE'S AN AMENDMENT TO THE, HE, HE, HE HAD AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.
SO IT DIES DUE TO LACK OF A SECOND.
I WAS GONNA ASK THE BUSINESS OWNERS, SINCE THEY'RE ON THE PHONE, WHAT ARE THEIR HOURS OF OPERATIONS IF THEY HAVE OTHER LOCATIONS? ARE THEY OPEN ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT OR DO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A SET SCHEDULE? I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE OWNERS.
HI, THIS IS MARSHALL WITH THE ESCAPE GAME.
UM, WE GENERALLY CLOSE OR LET OUR LAST PARTICIPANT IN AROUND 12, UH, MIDNIGHT.
UM, AND THAT USUALLY TAKES AN HOUR.
SO WE USUALLY CLOSE BETWEEN ONE AND 2:00 AM SO TO TO SECOND HIS MOTION.
WE, WE COULD THEN PUT A SET SET OF SCHEDULE HOURS LIKE WE DO MOST SUVS.
THIS, THIS WOULD APPLY TO ALL, IF YOU MADE, IT WOULD APPLY TO THE ENTIRETY OF VILLAGE DOLLAR PARKWAY, NOT JUST THE ESCAPE ROOM.
WELL, THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION AS TO WHAT THE TYPICAL, WHAT'S THE WORD WERE THEY CAN STAY OPEN UNTIL TWO O'CLOCK.
I DON'T WANNA SHUT THEM DOWN ANY EARLIER THAN ANYBODY.
BUT IF THAT'S WHAT THE OTHERS ARE ABLE TO DO, I DON'T THINK THAT'S UNREASONABLE TO PUT THAT SAME THING ON THE ENTIRE CENTER.
YEAH, DAVID? I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S OPEN PAST 2:00 AM OUR LAST, UH, SUPI THINK WAS TO TWO TILL 2:00 AM BUT NOTHING PAST THAT.
SO I COULD FEEL COMFORTABLE VOTING THAT NOBODY SHOULD BE OPEN PAST 2:00 AM IN VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.
I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF AMENDING IT.
CAN I SECOND
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND ON THE AMENDMENT.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? YEP.
UM, AS FAR AS VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY THERE, ARE THERE TIME CONSTRAINTS LATE 2:00 AM 3:00 AM ANYTHING NOT ON VILLAGE, ON THE PARKWAY IN ITS ENTIRETY? UM, BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR RESTAURANTS? UH, THE SUP, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS DOES COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
UM, AND THAT IS WHEN THE, UH, RESTAURANTS THAT WANT TO BE OPEN PAST 11:00 PM WOULD REQUEST, UH, THAT ABILITY TO DO SO DURING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS.
DO WE KNOW IF ANY OF THEM ARE OPERATING BEYOND 2:00 AM? UM, UH, I CAN, UH, STAFF CAN LOOK THAT UP REALLY FAST.
WE DO HAVE A LIST OF THAT, UM, ALREADY BUILT OUT.
WELL, TO WAIT ON THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO POSTPONE THIS.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M INTERESTED IN POSTPONING IT, BUT I THINK TWO O'CLOCK IS A, IS A WELL LET'S ASK THE OWNER ON THE, DO YOU HAVE ANYONE OBJECTION, BUT THE 2:00 AM DO YOU HAVE ANYONE THAT OPERATES PAST 2:00 AM IN YOUR CENTER? NO.
AND AND WE KNOW WE HAD A ONE PROBLEM TENANT AND WE WE SENT THEM A DEFAULT LETTER SO THEY WOULD, SO THEY WOULD NOT OPERATE PAST 2:00 AM UH, WE DON'T WANT ANYONE OPERATING PAST 2:00 AM ON, ON OUR OWN SIDE ANYWAYS.
SO YOU WOULD NOT HAVE AN OBJECTION TO 2:00 AM 'CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT THE PROBLEM TENANTS AFTER 2:00 PM 2:00 AM 2:00 AM AM AM.
AND I THINK WE NO, WE, UH, AHEAD.
NO, I'M SAYING NO, I DON'T THINK WE'D OBJECT UNLESS, YOU KNOW, I I KNOW THE OTHER ESCAPE GAME LOCATIONS IN SCAPE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABOUT MIDNIGHT.
I DON'T THINK OWNERSHIP WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 2:00 AM DOES DOES IT SPECIFICALLY LIMIT JUST ESCAPE ROOMS OR JUST EVERYTHING AT THE WHOLE PROPERTY?
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WELL, SO I THINK WE NEED TO GET SOME INPUT FROM WITT ON THIS BECAUSE THIS PART WAS NOT NOTICED ON THE AGENDA.SO FOR THIS ZONING HEARING, OUR, UM, SPECIFIC, UH, ORDINANCE AND THE NOTICES THAT WENT OUT ARE TO DEAL WITH THE AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE THE ESCAPE ROOM.
UM, A GLOBAL REGULATION THAT HAS NOT BEEN NOTICED SUCH AS A 2:00 PM OR EXCUSE ME, 2:00 AM REGULATION THAT APPLIES TO ALL OTHER BUSINESSES WOULD NEED TO BE RENO.
AND SO THAT WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH ITS SEPARATE PROCESS.
SO IF COUNSEL DOES WANT TO CONSIDER THE 2:00 AM CLOSURE, THAT WOULD BE, UH, TONIGHT, THAT WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO BE LIMITED TO THE ESCAPE ROOM DEFINITION.
WHICH IN WHICH CASE WE WOULD ADD THAT TO THE DEFINITION IN THIS ORDINANCE.
I CAN BE HAPPY WITH THAT FOR TONIGHT WITH MY, IN MY AMENDMENT.
AND THEN WE MIGHT WANT TO COME BACK LATER AND LOOK AT A, A A 2:00 AM COMPLETE IN THE CENTER.
I CAN BE HAPPY WITH THE 2:00 AM ESCAPE ROOM.
SO YOU WANT, YOU WANNA RESTATE YOUR AMENDMENT THEN? I WOULD LIKE MY, YES.
UH, I PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT FOR A MAX A A 2:00 AM MAXIMUM CLOSING TIME FOR THE ESCAPE ROOM THAT IS ON THE DOCKET FOR TONIGHT.
AND DAN, I SECOND THAT MOTION.
DAVID HAS SOMETHING HE WANTS TO SAY.
DAVID, DO YOU HAVE, MAYBE YOU HAVE THE DEFINITION OF ESCAPE.
MAYBE YOU WANNA SAY 2:00 AM IN THE DEFINITION OF ESCAPE ROOM.
YEAH, I, MY A MEMO WOULD BE TWO, INCLUDE 2:00 AM CLOSURE TIME IN THE DEFINITION OF ESCAPE ROOM.
WE GOT A MOTION OR SECOND LEGAL HAPPY WITH THAT? SO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT FIRST.
CHANEL, DID YOU VOTE? YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK THAT.
IT'S NOT YOUR, SO NOW WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE MOTION AND A SECOND FROM THE ORIGINAL MOTION IS WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND THE ORIGINAL, ANY OTHER FROM THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT MARLON DID.
IF I PUT NAY ON PUTTING THE EXTRA CONSTRAINT ON, YOU CAN STILL VOTE.
AYE, ON THIS? OKAY, SO I, I WOULD BE, UH, HAVING TO ACCEPT THE MOTION THAT PASSED.
ON THE DEFINITION? THAT'S CORRECT.
THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT MARLON MADE.
WE DID YOUR, WE APPROVED YOUR AMENDMENT.
NOW WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE, THE MOTION THAT YOU AMENDED.
WAS THAT AYE? NOBODY OPPOSED? NO.
A THAT IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
ALRIGHT, ITEMS. LET'S GET THAT, GET THAT PARKING GOING
[a. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving an agreement with Jacobs Engineering Group, Inc. for final design of the Airport Parkway Project and authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement in an amount not to exceed $392,200.]
OVER THERE.ITEM SIX, A PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION, APPROVING AND AGREEMENT WITH JACOB'S ENGINEERING GROUP, INC.
FOR FINAL DESIGN OF THE AIRPORT PARKWAY PROJECT.
AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $392,200.
COUNCIL BECKY, DIRECTOR OF, UM, HOLD ON.
SORRY, I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION, MY COMPUTER.
WELL, YOU'VE ONLY BEEN AT WORK SINCE SIX O'CLOCK THIS MORNING.
I HAVE BEEN AT, YES, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT EARLY.
THANKS FOR, FOR REMINDING ME MAYOR
UM, SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON AIRPORT PARKWAY.
UM, AS YOU'RE VERY AWARE, THE PROJECT LIMITS ARE FROM ADDISON ROAD TO, UH, THE DALLAS PARKWAY, DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY.
UM, THE PROJECT INCLUDES A FULL ROADWAY RECONSTRUCTION FROM THE CURRENT CONDITION OF ASPHALT TO CONCRETE.
WE'LL ALSO BE UPSIZING, UM, THE WATER AND SEWER AND DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE ROADWAY.
WE'LL BE PROVIDING A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL LOCATED AT QUORUM AND AIRPORT PARKWAY.
UM, THERE'S GONNA BE STREETSCAPE LANDSCAPING, UM, CONTINUOUS TURN LANE, UM, DOWN, UM, THE ROADWAY.
UM, AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OF COURSE, A DA AND, UH, PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STRETCH OF THE ROADWAY.
UM, LITTLE BIT ON THE TIMELINE 'CAUSE THIS PROJECT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
SO IN NOVEMBER, UM, OF 2019, VOTERS APPROVED A $9.4 MILLION, UH, PROJECT THROUGH THAT, UH, BOND ELECTION.
UM, IN DECEMBER, A DESIGN CONTRACT WITH JACOBS ENGINEERING WAS APPROVED, UM, AT CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN, UM, JULY OF 2020 DESIGN WAS COMPLETED UP TO 90% AND TABLED UNTIL THE KEL SPRINGS PROJECT, UM, CONSTRUCTION COULD ADVANCE.
UM, KEEP IN MIND KELLER SPRINGS IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, SO THE PORTION OF THIS ROADWAY, DUE TO THE FACT THAT THESE BOTH RUN EAST WEST AND THEY'RE
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VERY CLOSE IN PROXIMITY TO EACH OTHER, HAVING TWO ROADWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME WOULD BE DIFFICULT, UM, AT BEST FOR FOLKS TO TRAVERSE IN THIS AREA.SO THIS PROJECT WAS PUT ON HOLD.
ACQUISITION IS COMPLETE FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TONIGHT, UM, TO CONSIDER, UM, A DESIGN, UH, AMENDMENT AND, AND CONTRACT, UH, ADDITION.
UM, TO COMPLETE THE OVERALL FINAL DESIGN OF THE PROJECT, TAKE THE PROJECT FROM 90% TO A HUNDRED PERCENT INCLUDE THOSE BIDDING PHASE SERVICES AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES.
AND YOU CAN SEE BELOW THE THREE STRATEGIC PLAN INITIATIVES THAT, UM, ARE TACKLED IN THIS OVERALL PROJECT.
SO DESIGN UPDATES, UM, AS I MENTIONED, THAT DESIGN WAS PAUSED AT 90% WHILE KEL SPRINGS WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
UM, THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS NEED TO BE TAKEN FROM WHAT WE CONSIDER 90% TO A HUNDRED PERCENT.
THERE'S BEEN OBVIOUSLY SINCE, UH, 20 19, 20 21, SIGNIFICANT NEW DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THIS AREA.
IT'S EITHER UNDER DESIGN OR IN CONSTRUCTION IN THE CORRIDOR.
SO WE NEED TO UPDATE THOSE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS ALSO DURING THIS TIMEFRAME.
UH, THE DESIGN CRITERIA MANUAL WAS UPDATED IN MARCH OF 2022, UM, WHICH ALLOWED FOR THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN DESIGN.
AND WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.
UM, FRANCHISE UTILITIES ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SUBMITTING ALL OF THEIR PLANS TO THE TOWN SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE ALL OF THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, AND LI LIMIT THE NUMBER OF CONFLICTS THAT WE WILL HAVE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
UM, THEY'RE ANTICIPATED TO START, UH, IN THE SUMMER.
UM, SO VERY QUICKLY YOU'LL START SEEING, UH, ADDITIONAL WORK IN THAT AREA.
UM, ALSO WE'RE WANTING TO PREPARE THAT FINAL BID PACKAGE FOR CONSTRUCTION PROCUREMENT DURING, UM, CONSTRUCTION.
THOSE DESIGN SUPPORT SERVICES WILL INCLUDE ATTENDING MEETINGS, REVIEWING SUBMITTALS, RESPONDING FOR WHAT WE CALL RFIS OR REQUEST FOR INFORMATION FROM THE CONTRACTOR, PREPARING ANY CHANGE ORDERS THAT MIGHT HAPPEN, UM, REVIEWING PAY APPLICATIONS MONTHLY, AND THEN ASSISTING WITH THE PROJECT CLOSEOUT.
THE OVERALL BUDGET FROM THE PROJECT WAS 9.4 MILLION AS APPROVED IN THE 2019 BOND ELECTION.
UM, THE EXPENSES TO DATE FROM, UH, THE CONSULTANT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ARE A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION WITH A REMAINING TOTAL OF ABOUT 13.3 MILLION.
AND KEEP IN MIND, UM, THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION COST THAT YOU SEE TODAY, UM, IS HIGHER OBVIOUSLY FROM THE 9.4 MILLION TO THE 14.3 MILLION.
UM, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS THAT SINCE 2019 AND AFTER COVID, WE'VE SEEN APPROXIMATELY A 30 TO 40% INCREASE IN THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION COST.
UM, WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE UPSIZING UTILITIES AND ADDING CONNECTIONS WITH THOSE DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, AND SO THIS IS THE OVERALL PROJECT BUDGET.
UM, THE REMAINING PROJECT COSTS.
SO THIS DESIGN, UM, CONTRACT THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU TODAY IS, UH, $392,000.
UM, THE ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE RIGHT AT 12.7 MILLION WITH MATERIAL TESTING BEING ABOUT 220,000 FOR AN OVERALL, UH, REMAINING COST OF 13.3.
TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THE OVERALL FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT, UM, THIS WAS A PART OF THE 2022 GEO BOND PROCEEDS OF 9.4 MILLION, WHICH WERE ADOPTED IN THE 2019 BOND ELECTION.
WE WILL HAVE BOND PROCEEDS FROM THE, UH, SAVINGS FROM THE MIDWAY PROJECT, UM, OF ABOUT 2.6 MILLION.
WE ALSO HAVE THE DALLAS COUNTY CONTRIBUTION THAT WAS BROUGHT TO YOU.
UM, A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS BACK OF 475,000.
WE HAVE INTEREST EARNINGS ON BOND PROCEEDS OF APPROXIMATELY $600,000.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE DALLAS COUNTY PROCEEDS FROM MIDWAY THAT WILL BE IN A REIMBURSEMENT WE SHOULD BE RECEIVING AND APPROXIMATELY 1.3 MILLION.
SO THE TOTAL FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THE PROJECT IS ABOUT 14.3 MILLION, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE OVERALL ESTIMATE FOR THE PROJECT.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
BECKY, WHO HAS QUESTIONS? CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE SEVEN? I JUST STARTED TALKING, SORRY.
WAS SOMEBODY AHEAD OF ME? GO AHEAD, DARREN.
UM, I JUST WANT TO GIVE SOME KUDOS TO THIS SLIDE BECAUSE THIS REALLY DOES, UM, KIND OF ANSWER A QUESTION AND IT SHOWS, UM, UH, RESPONSIBLE FUNDING, UM, OF PULLING MONEY FROM ALL DIFFERENT PLACES TO NOT PULL OUT OF WHAT WE OBLIGATED TO, TO THE TAXPAYERS BACK IN 2019.
I I, I WAS IMPRESSED BY, UH, HOW THIS KIND OF CAME TOGETHER.
FINANCE PEOPLE AND, AND STREETS PEOPLE.
UH, THAT'S ACTUALLY ALL MR. GLICKMAN, SO I'LL GIVE HIM ALL THE KUDOS FOR THIS SLIDE.
HE PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR ME AND I APPRECIATE HIS COLLABORATION.
ANOTHER QUESTION, UM, ON THE 300 AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY, 392,000.
SO THAT IS, UM, THAT'S NEGOTIATING WITH, UH, THE CO CONTRACTORS, UH, FOR THE BIDS AND GOING BACK AND FORTH AND
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CHANGE ORDERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.SO WHAT IT WILL INCLUDE IS TAKING THE PLANS CURRENTLY AT 90% TO A HUNDRED PERCENT.
AND THIS IS WITH OUR DESIGN PROFESSIONAL THAT'S BEEN HIRED.
THEY'VE DESIGNED THE PROJECT TO 90%.
WE'VE NOW GOTTA GET IT TO FINAL DESIGN, WHICH IS A HUNDRED PERCENT.
MAKE THE STORM WATER CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO GET IT TO A HUNDRED YEAR STORM.
ALSO, UM, IMPLEMENT ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED ALONG THAT CORRIDOR SINCE THE PROJECT'S BEEN ON PAUSE FOR A LITTLE BIT.
I MEAN, THAT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS.
SOME THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN FIVE YEARS,
UM, AND SO INCORPORATE THOSE INTO THE PLANS.
UM, AND THEN FROM THERE THEY'LL TAKE IT THROUGH THE BIDDING PHASE SERVICE WITH US, WHICH WILL THEN ALLOW A CONTRACTOR TO BID ON THE DOCUMENT.
SO THEY'LL PLAN, PREPARE THE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS TO GO THROUGH THE BID PRO, UH, PROJECT, A PROCESS.
AND THEN FROM THE BID PROCESS THEY'LL ALSO HELP US THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CONSTRUCTION PHASE OF THE PRO PROJECT.
I CAN'T THESE, ALL THESE P WORDS.
UM, AND HELP US WITH CHANGE ORDERS, REQUEST FOR INFORMATION, ANYTHING THAT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT, PAYING INVOICES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO IT'S CONSIDERED CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES.
AND AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN THREE, NOT TO EXCEED THREE, UH, 3 92.
THAT SURE IS, THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT.
I'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT RECENTLY, SO YEAH, IT'S GOOD.
AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT 14.3.
IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT IT'S GONNA COST US? SO THE REST OF THE MONEY IS COMING FROM THE OTHER SAVINGS FROM OTHER ROAD PROJECTS? ARE WE GOING, IS THERE GOING TO BE ENOUGH SAVINGS FROM THE OTHER PROJECTS TO COVER THE SURPLUS OVER WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE VOTERS APPROVE THIS, APPROVE THIS.
WELL, THEY APPROVE 9.4, BUT WE'RE GONNA SPEND 14.3.
AND ARE WE GOING, ARE WE GOING TO BREAK EVEN WITH SAVINGS FROM OTHER PROJECTS OR ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO COME OUT OF POCKET WITH SOME, UM, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING AND UH, STEVEN, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HELP, UH, PRESENT THIS IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE 9.4 IS WHAT THE VOTERS APPROVED AND THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES YOU'RE SEEING HERE ARE WHAT GONNA, ARE GONNA BE, UH, SET ASIDE TO COVER THE OVERALL 14.3 MILLION THAT'S NEEDED FOR CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA COME OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND.
IT'S GONNA COME FROM, FROM DIFFERENT THINGS.
I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE DEALS WITH BONDS.
YOU KNOW, YOU TELL THOSE VOTERS ONE THING AND THEN WHATEVER CAUSES THE PRICE TO GO UP, THE PRICE HAS GONE UP.
SO, UH, YOU CAN KIND OF PUT ME IN THE CATEGORY WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.
I'VE GOT A LOT OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION FATIGUE IN ADDISON RIGHT NOW.
UH, I I DO APPRECIATE YOU, UH, DELAYING THIS PROJECT.
UH, AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IT DELAYED UNTIL THE KELLER SPRINGS PROJECT IS DONE.
WHEN ARE WE GONNA EXPECT THAT PROJECT TO BE DONE? AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT IN THIS AGENDA ITEM, BUT IT, IT FITS INTO THIS CATEGORY OF TRYING NOT TO OVERLAP BECAUSE THOSE ARE PARALLELED AND I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE USING IT.
UH, IS, IS ADDISON IS THAT ROAD IN SUCH BAD SHAPE THAT WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING RIGHT NOW? I DRIVE IT A LOT AND I I'VE NEVER REALLY COME DOWN THAT ROAD SAYING I'LL NEVER COME DOWN THIS ROAD AGAIN.
BUT, UM, THE ROAD IS ACTUALLY ASPHALT AND IN A STATE OF DISREPAIR.
UM, AND SO IT IS A PART OF THE PROCESS.
IT WAS APPROVED IN 2019 AND THAT WAS SEVEN YEARS AGO AND THE ROAD HASN'T GOTTEN ANY BETTER.
SO YES, IT, IT IS TIME TO DO THAT REPLACEMENT OF THAT ROADWAY.
UM, AND, AND WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
IT'S ALSO DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE STORM DRAIN NEEDS TO BE UPSIZED AND WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE RECONSTRUCTED IN THAT AREA.
SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST THE ROADWAY AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S ALL YOU TRULY CAN SEE WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN THE ROADWAY.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS UNDER THE GROUND THAT ALSO NEED TO BE IMPROVED THROUGHOUT THAT UNDERSTAND AND AND APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, BUT IT GETS BACK TO, I DON'T REALLY WANT TWO PARALLEL ROADS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME.
THAT IS, THAT IS NOT THE PLAN.
UM, THE PLAN IS FOR KELLER SPRINGS TO HAVE THE ROADWAY CONSTRUCTED AND HAVE AT LEAST ONE LANE OF TRAVEL, UM, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE TRAFFIC MOVING FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST, UM, AS IT MOVES THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF BEING CONSTRUCTED.
SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE BOTH ROADWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME WHERE WE'RE ELIMINATING TRAFFIC FLOW.
TRAFFIC FLOW WILL STILL BE, BE ABLE TO MOVE CONTINUOUSLY THROUGHOUT THAT AREA.
WELL, DON'T WE HAVE ONE IN EACH DIRECTION ON COLOR SPRINGS NOW? IT'S JUST A HORRIBLE SITUATION TO GET THROUGH.
UH, WE DO, WE DO, BUT WE ARE VERY AWARE OF WHAT YOU'RE MENTIONING AS FAR AS, UM, CONSTRUCTION BEING IN THAT AREA.
SO THE CURRENT PLAN, AS WE UNDERSTAND TODAY AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DIRECTED TO DO IS TO GET ONE LANE OF TRAVEL, WHICH WOULD BE HEADED OUT OF TOWN, UM, MOVING FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST.
UM, ONCE THAT'S COMPLETELY CONSTRUCTED, THEN WE WOULD WORK TO START CONSTRUCTION ON AIRPORT PARKWAY.
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THAT WOULD BE THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE HEADING.THERE'S LARGE STORM SEWER AND UH, THAT NEEDS TO BE INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THAT AREA, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WITHIN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROADWAY ON KELLER SPRINGS.
SO WE'VE GOT TO GET THAT IN THE GROUND SO THAT WE CAN GET ONE LANE OF TRAVEL OPEN.
AND I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE RUN INTO SOME UNFORESEEN ISSUES ON KELLER SPRINGS, I GET THAT, BUT IT'S STILL DRAGGING OUT.
DUE TO THOSE ISSUES, NOT TO ANYTHING ELSE.
WHAT, WHAT HAVE WE, HOW DO WE WRITE OUR CONTRACTS WITH THESE CONTRACTORS AND WHEN WE DO ADDISON ROAD, WILL WE, WILL WE REEVALUATE THE CONTRACTS WE'RE WRITING AND PUT 'EM ON A, A, A STRICT TIME LIMIT THAT THERE ARE PENALTIES IF THEY DON'T COMPLETE TASK AT A CERTAIN TIME? UM, AND IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON KELLER SPRINGS NOW? WELL, I'LL HAVE TO GET MY TEAM TO HELP ADDRESS THAT AND TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PENALTIES WE'RE CURRENTLY PUTTING ON ANY OF OUR CONTRACTORS.
WE EVALUATE 'EM THROUGH WHAT WE CONSIDER THE COMPETITIVE SEALED PROPOSAL PROCESS.
AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE'RE FINDING THE MOST RESPONSIVE CONTRACTOR THAT MEETS THE NEEDS BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE REQUESTING AS A PART OF THE PROJECT.
UM, I, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PENALTIES THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON 'EM, BUT EVERY CONTRACT HAS LIQUIDATED DAMAGES IN IT.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHETHER WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO ASSIGN THAT.
I KNOW THAT, I KNOW IT'S NOT UNCOMMON OR UNUSUAL TO PUT A, TO PUT BENCHMARKS ON, ON THESE PROJECTS AND, AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOTTEN OFF OF THIS AGENDA ITEM TOPIC 'CAUSE WE, THIS IS ABOUT DESIGN APPROVAL.
I, I, I REALLY FELT WE'VE GONE TOO FAR.
I CAN SEE YOUR POINT ON THAT, BUT I MAY NOT APPROVE THIS DESIGN PROCESS IF I DON'T KNOW GOING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
DON'T NEED TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT PROCESS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE AGENDA ITEM.
FIGHTING FOR THE TAXPAYERS IS AN AGENDA ITEM.
UM, JUST FOR EDUCATION, THE, WHEN THE BOND, WHAT, WHAT CONTINGENCIES WERE PERCENTAGE OF THAT? 9.4 MILLION AT THAT POINT, WHEN YOU'RE SAYING 90% OF IT WAS PLANNED, IT WASN'T PLANNED WHEN THE BOND WENT TO EFFECT THAT ALL 9.4 WAS GONNA COVER A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT ROAD, THAT WAS THE PLAN AT THE TIME OF THE BOND PROPOSAL? YES SIR.
NINE, 9.4 MILLION WAS THE ESTIMATE PUT TOGETHER FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AT THE TIME THAT, UH, PROJECT WENT THROUGH THE BOND ELECTION.
AND, AND, AND I'M IN AGREEANCE OF MAKING THIS HAPPEN.
I HATE TO SAY IT SOONER THAN LATER BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE COST TO CONTINUOUSLY INCREASE IF WE HOLD IT ANY LONGER.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE.
THANK YOU MARLON AND DAN FOR THE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
WILL THERE, WILL THERE BE ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM COME UP AFTER THIS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION STARTS? YES SIR.
WE WILL BE BRINGING A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WARRANT SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THINGS IN THE CONTRACT AT THAT POINT.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK AT ANY TIME YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS IT.
AND I KNOW YOU ARE, THIS IS NOT DIRECTED AT Y'ALL.
THIS IS JUST, WE HAVE, WE, WE GET LOTS OF EMAILS ON BAD ROADS AND, AND LONG CONSTRUCTION TIMES.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PRETTY MUCH ON SCHEDULE ON KEL SPRINGS, IS THAT CORRECT? WE'RE, WE'RE DOING WELL ON KEL SPRINGS.
UM, WE ARE, WE ARE HOPING TO HAVE THAT COMPLETED, UM, NEXT YEAR.
SO YES, WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
WE HAVE HAD SOME UNFORESEEN ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP, UM, BUT WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
ONE QUESTION ON DISCUSSION, UM, FOR BECKY.
UH, WHEN, WHEN IS THE COMPLETION OF WILL, WILL, WILL THERE BE TWO, UH, TWO LANES, BOTH DIRECTIONS ON KELLER SPRINGS? WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED? UM, APRIL OF 2027, WE PLAN TO HAVE ONE LANE IN, IN ONE DIRECTION, UH, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN THE ROADWAY TWO LANES, UH, APRIL OF 27.
SO WHEN YOU SAY ONE DIRECTION, DOES THAT LITERALLY MEAN JUST ONE WAY TRAFFIC? THAT'S CORRECT.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGN WORK FOR NO, WE'RE NOT.
[b. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution providing for the appointment of City Council Members to a City Council Committee and appointment of City Council liaisons to various local organizations.]
SIX B PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO A CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE AND APPOINTMENT OF CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS TO VARIOUS LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
VALENCIA GARCIA, CITY SECRETARY HERE TO DISCUSS CITY COUNCIL, COMMITTEE AND LIAISON APPOINTMENTS FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.
FOR A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, UM, EVERY YEAR AFTER WE GET THE RESULTS OF THE GENERAL ELECTION AND CANVAS THEM AND SEE THE NEW CITY COUNCIL, UH, WE MAKE OUR COMMITTEE AND LIAISON APPOINTMENTS, WHICH ARE DIVIDED UP AMONGST THE CURRENT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AT A REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, SO TONIGHT WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING TO DO IS MAKE AN
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APPOINTMENT FOR, OR MAKE APPOINTMENTS TO THE FOLLOWING CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE, WHICH IS OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE.UH, SO THIS YEAR THEY WOULD MEET IN A SERIES OF THREE MEETINGS PLANNED OVER THE SUMMER TO REVIEW, DISCUSS, AND FORM A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL COUNCIL, UH, FOR THE FY 27 BUDGET DISCUSSION.
SO WE'VE HAD TO SET A TENTATIVE SCHEDULE FOR THESE MEETINGS WITH, UH, MEETING ONE, BEING AT THE END OF JUNE, MEETING NUMBER TWO AT THE BEGINNING OF JULY, AND THEN MID-JULY FOR THE FINAL MEETING.
UH, OF COURSE THAT IS ALWAYS SUBJECT TO CHANGE, BUT THIS IS A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING FOR, UM, AS OUR COMMITTEE SCHEDULE.
AND THEN SECONDLY, WE'LL BE MAKING THE LIAISON APPOINTMENTS, WHICH ARE INTENDED TO PROVIDE A GREATER DEPTH OF UNDERSTANDING OF THE TECHNICAL NATURE OF OUR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO THIS YEAR WE'LL MAKE LIAISON APPOINTMENTS TO THE FOLLOWING ORGANIZATIONS, WHICH ARE THE ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION, JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES, METROCREST CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, METROCREST SERVICES, NORTH DALLAS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, NORTH TEXAS COMMISSION AND WATER TOWER THEATER.
UM, SO HERE'S A BRIEF SUMMARY OF OUR 2025 APPOINTMENTS.
UM, IT INCLUDES OUR CITY COUNCIL COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE AS WELL HERE AT THE TOP.
THAT'S WHY IT'S IN A DIFFERENT COLOR.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR NONPROFIT COMMITTEE, UM, APPOINTMENTS HERE AS WELL.
UM, FOR 2025, UH, YOU'LL NOTICE METRO CREST CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS LEFT BLANK ON HERE.
THAT WAS HELD BY FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER FREED IN 2025.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL APPOINTMENTS, UM, BELOW, WHICH IS OUR METROPLEX MAYOR, WHICH OF COURSE, UH, THE MAYOR IS OUR LIAISON THERE.
UM, AND THEN OUR NCT COG, UH, REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL, UH, WHICH WAS MADE BY APPOINTMENT LAST YEAR VIA RESOLUTION.
NO, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AND NOMINATIONS AND APPOINTMENTS.
AND FIRST UP I SEE DARREN, I, UH, HAVE ENJOYED REPRESENTING ON NORTH TEXAS COMMISSION.
AND BEFORE WE GET TO THE LIAISON AS ASSIGNMENTS, I'D LIKE TO FIRST, UH, GO THROUGH THE TALK ABOUT THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP, UH, COMMITTEE AND, AND SO VALENCIA, JUST TO, SO THAT EVERYBODY IS, IS CLEAR ON THAT.
SO THAT IS, UH, A COMMITTEE THAT WE'VE DONE A COUPLE YEARS, I THINK, I THINK IT'S A COUPLE YEARS.
ONE FULL YEAR HAD AN AD HOC COMMITTEE HELP WITH THE YEAH.
AND THEN LAST BUDGET YEAR WAS OUR FIRST YEAR WITH THE COMMITTEE.
AND THAT'S TO GET THE PRESENTATIONS FROM THE NONPROFITS AND THEN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUN TO THE FULL COUNCIL, UH, FOR DURING BUDGET TIME, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, DOES THE COUNCIL WANT TO CONTINUE THAT COMMITTEE AND THEN IF SO, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE, UH, THREE FOLKS RAISE THEIR HAND TO BE WILLING TO SERVE ON THAT.
WHO WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE LAST YEAR? UM, WHO WAS THE MAYOR AND MYSELF AND CHRIS.
ANY, UH, COMMENTS ON, UH, THAT, WHY WOULD THE ENTIRE COUNCIL NOT BE ON THERE? IF IT, IF IT IS TO DISTRIBUTE TAXPAYER MONEY TO NONPROFITS, WHY WOULD WE NOT ALL BE INVOLVED IN THAT? WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST WHERE WE, AND THERE'S NO REASON THAT WE CAN'T DO IT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION THERE.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PREFER, OBVIOUSLY SAY THE REASON, THE REASON WE DID IT WAS TO, IF I RECALL, WAS TO SAVE SOME TIME DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING KIND OF A PARADE OF ALL THE, UM, UH, GROUPS TO COME AND DO PRESENTATIONS DURING BUDGET TIME.
AND THE BUDGET TIME WAS GETTING A LITTLE BIT LONGER AND LONGER.
AND SO THIS WAS A WAY TO, UH, HAVE A, A SMALLER, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COUNCIL, HEAR THE PRESENTATIONS, AND THEN MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND COUNCIL WOULD STILL SEE THE PRESENTATIONS, BUT THAT IT WOULDN'T BE, UH, A MEETING THAT THEY WOULD BE SITTING IN ON.
AND THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THE PRESENTATIONS LAST YEAR.
WAS THAT ALL DONE? THEY WERE ALL THERE.
YOU HAD ACCESS, YOU WEREN'T, THEY DIDN'T, WEREN'T, YOU WEREN'T IN THE MEETINGS, BUT YOU HAD ACCESS TO ALL THE PRESENT.
YEAH, THEY WERE, THEY WERE ALL IN THERE.
I, SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT IT WOULD ALL BE DONE DURING COUNCIL MEETINGS? I, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE COULDN'T.
I'M, I'M ASSUMING THE THREE OF YOU THAT WERE ON THE COMMITTEE LAST YEAR HAD MEETING MEETINGS AWAY FROM COUNCIL MEETINGS LIKE THIS, LIKE THREE.
SO COULDN'T WE NOT, I I WOULD JUST PREFER EVERYONE BE INVOLVED IF WE'RE GIVING TAXPAYER MONEY OUT.
I WOULD PREFER EVERYONE TO HEAR AND HAVE, HAVE INPUT IN THAT.
SO, UM, LAST YEAR, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE IS NOT APPROVING THE FUNDS GOING OUT.
THE COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE THAT.
WOULD YOU ARE APPROVING JUST MAKING A RECOMMENDATION.
YOU'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION COUNCIL.
WITHOUT OTHER PRESENTATIONS BEING SEEN AND, AND HAVING INPUT.
YOU, YOU, YOU SEE THE PRESENTATIONS, BUT YOU'RE JUST NOT THERE FOR THE FACE-TO-FACE WITH THE, WITH THE PERSON THAT'S PRESENTING.
I'M SEEING THE PRESENTATIONS OF ONLY WHO YOU'RE GIVING MONEY TO OR ALL OF THEM.
YOU'RE GETTING, YOU'RE GETTING THE PRESENTATION ON YOUR, ON YOUR
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IPAD OF, OF THE PRESENTATION.WE'RE SEEING YOU'RE JUST NOT THERE FOR THE, FOR THE PERSON THAT'S STANDING PRESENTING.
WHAT I'M SAYING, IF THERE'S A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT ASK FOR MONEY, ARE WE SEEING A HUNDRED PRESENTATIONS OR JUST THE PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU'RE BRINGING FORWARD SAYING, THIS IS WHO YOU'RE RECOMMENDING US GIVE MONEY TO.
YOU SEE EVERY SINGLE PRESENTATION.
SO IT COULD BE MORE, IT COULD BE MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN FRONT OF US.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M, AND IT GENERALLY IS.
WELL, HE JUST SAID I WOULD SEE ALL OF THEM.
OR DAVID SAID, I'M, I'M NOT SORRY.
HIM, YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN SEE EVERY, EVERY SINGLE PRESENT.
WE GO SEE EVERY PRESENTATION THAT WAS IN LAST YEAR.
AND ARE THEY, ARE THEY RECORDED OR ARE THEY JUST A, A, A WRITTEN WELL, THAT, THAT MEETING'S RECORDED, I BELIEVE ISN'T MEETINGS WERE RECORDED.
ALL THREE OF THESE MEETINGS ARE RECORDED.
YOU CAN GO, YOU CAN, IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING.
ANYBODY, THEY'RE, ANYBODY CAN GO.
THEY'RE OPEN, THEY'RE PUBLIC, THEY'RE OPEN.
THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE TO ME.
'CAUSE IT, IT SOUND, I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS BEHIND DOORS.
THESE ARE WHO WE, WE DECIDED TO GIVE MONEY TO.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T MAKE, WE DON'T DECISIONS EITHER.
THERE'S THE REASON FOR MY HACKLES BEING UP A LITTLE BIT THINKING THAT THE PEOPLE COULDN'T SEE.
THERE'S NO SECRET MEETING JUST RECORDED.
I LIKE YOUR HACK, BUT I STILL THINK WE ALL SHOULD BE INVOLVED.
SO I, THAT THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.
AND WE'RE INVOLVED IN THE FINAL DECISION.
IT IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A FEW MEETINGS OUT OF A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS' SCHEDULE.
AND SOME FOLKS SEEM TO LIKE THAT.
MAYOR, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO ADD YOU, YOU EXPLAINED IT PERFECTLY OTHER THAN YOU LEFT OUT THE HEART.
THE, THE MOST, THE, THE BIGGEST PART OF THE WORK IS NOT JUST LIKE SHOWING UP AND LISTENING, READING ALL THE STUFF.
AND ALL OF THE ATTACHMENTS AND, AND I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A LOT.
SO I WAS, UH, I WAS, UH, I'M THE, UH, LIAISON FOR WATER TOWER THEATER AND, AND THEY SAID, HEY, DO YOU CARE TO KINDA LOOK, LOOK AT OUR SUBMISSION BEFORE WE SUBMIT IT? I SAID, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
AND SO THAT WAS THREE HOURS MM-HMM
SO YOU CAN ON ONE DO THAT WITHOUT A FORM BEING PRESENT.
REALLY? AND SO TALKING ABOUT READING AT HIS HOUSE, HE READ.
SO IT MAKING DECISIONS ALL IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A BIG TIME REQUIREMENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS PAPERWORK, UM, AND THEN ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AND, BUT IT, BUT THE OTHER THING IS, IT'S, IT'S OCCURRING AT BUDGET TIME WHEN WE'RE ALREADY, EVERYBODY'S SLAMMED LOT GOING ON WITH THE WHOLE YEAH.
SO ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD IS, AND I GET, I GET WHERE YOU'RE GOING, RANDY, BUT DO YOU THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO GET A SHOW OF HANDS TO SEE WHO HAS INTEREST IN SERVING ON THIS COMMITTEE? BECAUSE, WELL, WELL, SHOW OF HANDS, MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY DOES SHOW, SHOW OF HANDS LOOK LIKE A VOTE.
SO I'M JUST INTERESTED TO SEE IF EVERY, IF IF, IF AT LEAST FOUR ARE, ARE INTERESTED IN HAVING THE COMMITTEE THAT WOULD, WOULD HAD NOT.
I, I WANTED JUST TO CLARIFY, SO THESE ARE RECORDED MEETINGS THAT ALL THE PUBLIC, ALL THE DOCUMENTS ARE OUT THERE.
I RECALL LAST YEAR, RANDY, YOU DID, YOU, YOU WERE COMING UP TO SPEED STILL ON COUNCIL AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WERE OUT THERE.
UM, I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE RECORDED.
SO I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THEY ARE.
'CAUSE I WILL GO BACK AND, AND WATCH MEETINGS AND YOU CAN ATTEND IF YOU WANT TO, INSTEAD OF WRITING GO LINK.
BUT YOU CAN GO, UH, ATTEND THE MEETINGS
BUT SO THAT, SO I THINK IT'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION.
I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF, UH, HAVING A COMMITTEE OF MY PEERS, UH, DO THE LEGWORK AND THEN COME BACK AND LOOK AT THE, AND, AND I WOULD GO ALONGSIDE AS WELL AND LOOK AT THAT AND THEN, UH, LISTEN TO THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
MARLON, ARE YOU STILL OKAY WITH IT? YEAH, I WOULD, I'D BE, I SERVED LAST YEAR.
I'VE SERVED ON THIS COMMITTEE.
THEY, WE CALLED IT SOMETHING ELSE IN THE PAST.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO SERVE AGAIN.
SNELL, ARE YOU OKAY WITH HAVING THE COMMITTEE? I'M OKAY WITH HAVING THE COMMITTEE.
I'M OKAY WITH HAVING A COMMITTEE.
LIKE, GENERALLY WE'RE OKAY WITH HAVING IT.
SO I'LL, I'LL DROP IT AT THAT AND JUST PUT MY HAT IN THE RING AND PUT MY HAT IN THE RING FOR THE COMMITTEE POSITION ON THE COMMITTEE.
MARLON'S INTERESTED WHO ELSE? ONE MORE.
THIS HAS HIS HAND UP ALL, I GUESS THAT'S ME THEN.
NOW LET'S GO TO THE, UH, LIAISON ASSIGNMENTS.
AND, AND, UH, AND THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS EARLIER, DARREN.
I'LL GO STRAIGHT TO YOU IN A SECOND.
BUT YEAH, THERE IS, THERE IS SOME VALUE TO HAVING SOME CONSISTENCY WITH, UH, SERVING ON THESE AS THESE LIAISONS.
UH, YOU GET THOSE RELATIONSHIPS BUILT UP OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, WE, WE'VE TENDED TO HISTORICALLY, UM, ALLOW SOMEBODY TO CONTINUE SERVING IN THE, IN THAT LIAISON UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE REALLY WANTS IT.
AND Y'ALL CAN DISCUSS IT BACK AND FORTH.
BUT I, I LIKE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO HAVE, HAVE THAT CONSISTENCY OF THAT RELATIONSHIP.
AND, UH, BUT I DON'T WANNA MANDATE THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU, WE CAN DECIDE AMONGST OURSELVES HOW WE WANNA DO THAT.
BUT DARREN, YOU STARTED TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS EARLIER ABOUT THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TAKE THAT, THAT SPOT AGAIN THIS YEAR.
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VERY VALUABLE AND I THINK IT DOES ADD TO, UM, MY, UM, MY WORK ON OUR COUNCIL AND REPRESENTATIVE ADDISON.SO BACK ON NORTH TEXAS COMMISSION YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO.
AND RANDY, YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING A LIAISON ASSIGNMENT LAST YEAR.
SO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS AT HOME WHILE Y'ALL WERE WORKING.
I HAD SO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS.
WELL, WELL NOW YOU GOT ALL THE ENERGY STORED UP AND DOWN.
UH, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE.
SO SINCE I'VE SERVED ON THE ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION, I JUST MET WITH THEM.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE SUBMITTING A GRANT APPLICATION FOR 2027.
I WOULD STILL LIKE TO REMAIN THEIR LIAISON, BUT BEING PART OF THE TRIBE, I'D LIKE TO, UM, OFFER MY LIAISON SHIP TO JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES INSTEAD OF ARBOR FOUNDATION.
WELL, WE HAVE SEVEN AND THERE'S SEVEN OF US, SO I'D LIKE FOR EACH ONE TO HAVE.
AND I, I'LL RELINQUISH A, A F AND I WILL MOVE TO JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES.
YOU WANNA DO JFS? 'CAUSE THAT'S OUR NEW EDITION THIS YEAR IS JFS.
UM, AND YOU WANT TO CONTINUE ON WATER TOWER? YES, SIR.
AND THEN RANDY, SO WE HAVE, UH, METROCREST CHAMBER.
UM, I WOULD RATHER LIKE TO DO THE, UH, RE THE, THE RTC.
WHY NOT? BECAUSE WHENEVER WE, WHENEVER WE MAKE A CHANGE IN THAT, IT GOES BETWEEN HERE AND RICHARDSON, WHEN THERE'S A CHANGE, IT SHIPS TO THE OTHER CITY.
AND DO WE HAVE A SEAT ON THERE NOW? WE DO.
AND HOW LONG WILL WE HAVE A SEAT ON THERE UNTIL THERE'S A CHANGE? GENERALLY THERE'S, WHO MAKES THE CHANGE? THERE'S BEEN, THERE'S BEEN NO SET TIME YET.
IT GENERALLY HAPPENS WHENEVER SOMEBODY EITHER LEAVES OFFICE OR THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T WANNA SERVE IN THAT ROLE ANYMORE.
THEN THE, THEN THE SECONDARY, UH, UH, UH, MEMBER WOULD, WOULD, UH, TAKE THAT ROLE.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE RICHARDSON REPRESENTATIVE, WHICH IS THE MAYOR.
HOW, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE GONE TO SEVERAL OF THESE MEETINGS.
HOW DO, HOW DO SEVERAL CITIES HAVE MULTIPLE REPRESENTATIVES ON THERE? IT'S BASED ON POPULATION.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE, WE, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ONE REPRESENTATIVE FOR TWO CITIES.
I THINK IT'S 250,000 I BELIEVE.
MAYBE, MAYBE IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER NUMBER.
THAT, BUT PER, PER AMOUNT OF POPULATION IS WAS ONE REPRESENTATIVE.
SO WE, WE HAVE THE, UM, SO WATER TOWER THEATER'S COVERED ARBOR.
WE HAVE, ARBOR FOUNDATION IS OPEN.
SO METROCREST SERVICES, CHRIS IS NOT HERE TO SPEAK FOR THAT.
SO, SO, UM, SO I ALREADY KINDA WORK WITH METROCREST CHAMBER.
I'M THEIR, UM, OVER THEIR ALUMNI ASSOCIATION.
SO WOULD THAT BE A CONFLICT IF I'M ALREADY KINDA WORKING WITH THEM? WE CHANGE ROLES? WOULDN'T THINK SO.
SO I CAN DO METROCREST CHAMBER METROCREST SERVICES? NO CHAMBER.
SO J UH, JFS IS DAN METROCREST CHAMBER METROCREST SERVICES IS DONE.
UM, 'CAUSE CHRIS WAS ON THERE, BUT HE'S NOT HERE TO SPEAK.
SO METRO CREST SERVICE SERVICES.
UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE DOING NORTH DALLAS CHAMBER.
WE, WE HAVE A SEAT ON THAT BOARD.
UM, MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY REASON TO BELIEVE WHY CHRIS WOULDN'T WANT TO CONTINUE SERVING ON METRO SERVICES? HE DIDN'T INDICATE ANYTHING TO ME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON IT.
SO WE, SO WE HAVE, UM, I'M LOST AGAIN.
WE HAVE, UH, JAY ARBOR FOUNDATION, AOR AND RANDY, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SERVE AS THE ARBOR FOUNDATION? LISA? I, I WILL, BUT I'VE BEEN, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TOLD THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA ASK FOR MONEY THIS YEAR, SO, BUT THAT'LL BE FINE.
WELL, WE HAVE A VERY MUCH YOU WANNA HELP ME RELATIONSHIP WITH ARBOR FOUNDATION? NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND, AND JUST AS A REMINDER, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS, THESE LIAISON ASSIGNMENTS ARE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, THEIR ROLE IS TO SERVE AS A LIAISON, NOT NECESSARILY AS AN ADVOCATE FOR THAT GROUP BECAUSE YOU'RE THERE REPRESENTING THE TOWN AND THE TOWN'S INTEREST BECAUSE WE, WE PROVIDE FUNDING TO THEM.
SO IT'S, UM, YOU'RE MORE OF AN, OF AN ADVOCATE FOR THE TOWN, HONESTLY, UH, THAN YOU ARE AN ADVOCATE FOR THE GROUP.
UH, SO THAT'S JUST, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE, UH, OF WHAT THEIR ROLE IS.
SO DO YOU HAVE THAT DOWN? MM-HMM.
AND, UH, AND, AND I'LL CONTINUE DOING METROPLEX MAYORS OF COURSE.
AND THEN THE, UH, UM, RTC, MAYOR, MAYOR, I'VE GOT TWO, TWO THOUGHTS.
UM, RANDY, RANDY SHOWED SOME INTEREST IN RTC.
HE CAN, CAN ANY OF US GO TO RTC ANYTIME? WELL, THOSE ARE ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS.
SO HE, HE CAN AND THEY'RE LIVE STREAMED AND RECORDED AND, ALRIGHT.
IN YOUR SPARE TIME, YOU CAN WATCH THOSE FASCINATING MEETINGS IN SPARE TIME.
WE DON'T HAVE, UM, SO HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, THAT WE USED TO DO.
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FOR WHATEVER REASON, I, WE JUST STOPPED.UM, SO WE'VE GOT THESE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION LIAISON ROLES, WHICH, WHICH WE JUST ASSIGNED, BUT, UM, CURRENTLY WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PROVIDING ANY LIAISON REPORT MM-HMM
AND I, I THINK THAT'S A BIG PART OF, OF THE JOB IS, IS, IS IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE COMPLICATED.
IT WHATEVER YOU NEED TO REPORT, YOU REPORT.
BUT, UM, IN THE PAST, MINE'S BEEN ABOUT A PAGE AND A HALF, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND, AND IT'S SOMETHING YOU, YOU COMPLETE AND YOU SHARE IT WITH THE, THE REST OF THE COUNCIL AND, AND, UM, UH, TO ME IT'S VERY HELPFUL.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD, UH, START DOING THAT AGAIN.
NO, I, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S, UH, TOTALLY FINE TO, DO YOU, MAYBE IT'S A QUARTERLY REPORT OR SOMETHING.
IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANNA MANDATE THAT IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T, AND WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO IS, IS AN ANNUAL THING, LIKE A YEAR FROM NOW.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK BECAUSE EVERYBODY SERVES THEIR ROLE IN THE WAY THEY WANNA SERVE IT, YOU KNOW, SO EVERYBODY HAS A HIGHER LEVEL D DIFFERENT PEOPLE, DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT, UH, IN, IN THEIR ROLE.
SO, UM, I THINK AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR, FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PR TO PRESENT A REPORT A YEAR FROM NOW WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, AND IF SOMEBODY SAYS I DON'T HAVE A REPORT TO, UM, PRESENT, I'M OKAY WITH THAT TOO.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SIX B.
AND AS, AS DISCUSSED AND AS VALENCIA HAS THE INFORMATION.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM, UM, OUR NEWEST COUNCIL MEMBER.
UH, ANY OF THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[7. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.]
ITEM FOR TONIGHT.ITEM SEVEN, ITEM OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.
IT'S THAT TIME THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN, UH, PROVIDE SOME EXPRESSIONS OF THANKS.
CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE INFORMATION, ET CETERA.
IS THERE SOMEBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SHARE SOMETHING? I SEE LIGHTS ON FROM DAN CHANEL, YOU'D LIKE TO GO? OH, THANK YOU CHANEL.
SO, UH, WELL FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU, UH, TO ALL OF MY, UH, FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
ALSO WANTED TO THANK, UH, THE VOTERS AND THE VOLUNTEERS AS WELL AS THE TOWN STAFF FOR GETTING ME ONBOARDED, UH, WITHIN THESE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
SO, VALENCIA, FELICIA, FELICIA, UM, EVERYBODY JUST FOR GETTING ME UP TO SPEED AND SEEING ME.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.
DAN, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER HOWARD FREE, LOST HIS MOTHER, UM, HAD A BEAUTIFUL SERVICE, UM, AT TEMPLE MANUEL DOWNTOWN, AND JUST WANTED TO SHARE THOSE CONDOLENCES WITH HIS FAMILY AND LOVED ONES.
YEAH, DEFINITELY OUR CONDOLENCES TO, TO HOWARD AND HIS FAMILY.
UH, ONE THING I HAVE TONIGHT, OH, RANDY, YOU HAD SOMETHING.
I ALSO WANT TO GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO, UH, UH, COUNCILMAN EX COUNCILMAN FREED ON THE LOSS OF HIS MOTHER UNEXPECTEDLY, EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS 89.
IT WAS AN UNEXPECTED LOSS AND A HUGE LOSS FOR THEIR FAMILY.
AND TO MAKE A, MAKE A THIS COUNCIL AWARE THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER FAMILY PRESENTLY, THAT ALSO ON THE SAME DAY LOST A, UM, A FAMILY MEMBER OF, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CIO, LOST A GRANDFATHER IN-LAW ON THE SAME DAY.
AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU MY CONDOLENCES TO YOUR FAMILY ON THAT AS WELL.
S SORRY FOR, SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS AS WELL, DAN.
UM, ONE THING I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO SHARE, UM, THIS IS KIND OF INFORMATIONAL KI AND KIND OF A PAT ON THE BACK.
YOU ALL KNOW WE HAVE SUCH A GREAT PUBLIC WORKS TEAM IN TOWN AND, YOU KNOW, I BRAG ON THEM OFTEN AND, UM,
I LISTEN TO A LOT OF PODCASTS, A LOT OF AUDIO BOOKS.
AND I GOT THE PRIVILEGE OF LISTENING TO A PODCAST LAST WEEK THAT WAS, UH, FROM A PODCAST CALLED LEADING THRIVING CITIES.
AND THE GUEST THAT DAY WAS BECKY DEVINNEY.
AND IF YOU WANNA HAVE AN EDUCATION ON PUBLIC WORKS, LEARN WHAT REALLY PUBLIC WORKS IS ALL ABOUT, THAT'S A PLACE TO GO.
AND IF YOU, AT THE SAME TIME IN THAT SAME HOUR, LEARN WHAT EXCELLENT LEADERSHIP IS ABOUT, THAT'S THE PODCAST YOU WANNA LISTEN TO.
SO, BECKY, KUDOS REALLY GREAT JOB WITH THAT.
I PUT IT IN, I, I TAGGED IT SO I CAN LISTEN TO IT AGAIN.
IT WAS REALLY EDUCATIONAL AND JUST REALLY LOVE YOUR LEADERSHIP STYLE AND WHAT YOU SHARED.
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GREAT.BUT, UH, YEAH, THE, UH, LEADING THRIVING CITIES PODCAST, AND THAT'S GONNA BE A REGULAR LISTEN FOR ME.
I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT SUCH, SUCH A NEAT EVENT LAST SATURDAY, TOUCH A TRUCK.
UM, IT HAD SO MANY DEPARTMENTS AND, AND OTHER, UH, OUTSIDE ENTITIES, UH, EVEN GUY FROM TESLA WAS THERE.
UH, ALL THE DIFFERENT VISITORS THAT COME TO TOWN.
UH, SO MANY HORN HONKING, UH, OF DIFFERENT VEHICLES.
UH, JUST A LOT OF JOY JUST BROUGHT TO IT.
A LOT OF KIDS AND EVEN ADULTS, UH, ON THE D VARIOUS THINGS THEY DO THERE.
SO, WHO, WHO ORGANIZED ORGANIZED IT? IS THAT DUSTIN FROM THE A, A C? WHO DOES THAT? DUSTIN ORGANIZED.
I MEAN, YOU GUYS JUST PULL IT OFF AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK A BUCKET TRUCK'S COOL, SO WHY NOT SHOW IT OFF? BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE A LOT OF KUDOS TO JUST SUCH A BROAD SPECTRUM, UH, UH, SPECTRUM OF THE TOWN.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A FUN EVENT TO GO TO.
AND YEAH, EVERY, EVERYBODY'S HAVING SO MUCH FUN.
IT'S GREAT TO WATCH THE KIDS AND, UH, WATCH THE, UH, KIDS GET ON AND OFF THE, UH, POLICE MOTORCYCLE ABOUT A HUNDRED TIMES.
UH, BUT REALLY GREAT, UH, GREAT, UH, EVENT.
IT IS NINE 50 AND WE'RE ADJOURNED FOR THE NIGHT.