* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present.] [00:00:04] OKAY. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. IT IS 6:30 PM ON APRIL 28TH, 2020 SIXTH, AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL. UH, THIS WILL BE OUR WORK SESSION FOR THE EVENING. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE, OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT WITH ALL MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING. AND, UH, GLAD TO SEE YOU ALL HERE. UH, MOVING RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PUBLIC COMMENT. CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA. UH, COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS. CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW. THE COUNCIL IS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSSING THE ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON THE FUTURE AGENDA. I DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, UH, PUBLIC, UH, COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT, THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNSEL AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER [3. Council Member Clarification Requests Regarding Consent Agenda Items. ] THREE. COUNCIL MEMBER CLARIFICATION REQUESTS REGARDING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION NEED FROM COUNSEL ON CONSENT ITEMS TONIGHT? ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, ITEM THREE A COUNSEL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. THE QUESTIONS THAT, UH, COUNSEL SENDS TO STAFF REGARDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ARE PUT INTO A Q AND A DOCUMENT AND DISTRIBUTED TO, UH, COUNSEL. UH, ALL THE ITEMS ARE, ALL THE QUESTIONS ARE COMPILED INTO ONE DOCUMENT. THAT SAME DOCUMENT IS UPLOADED ONTO OUR WEBSITE, SO ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC CAN FIND THAT DOCUMENT BY GOING TO THE AGENDA, UH, ON THE WEBSITE. AND, UH, THEY CAN, THERE'LL BE A LINK WITHIN THE AGENDA AND THEY CAN DOWNLOAD THAT SAME Q AND A DOCUMENT THAT THE COUNCIL HAS. ALRIGHT, MOVING [a. Present and discuss the Addison Fire Department's 2025 Annual Report.] ON TO OUR WORK SESSION REPORTS. ITEM FOUR A PRESENTED, DISCUSS THE ADDISON FIRE DEPARTMENT'S 2025 ANNUAL REPORT. GOOD EVENING CHIEF, CAN I USE THIS MAY MAYOR COUNCIL, CJ ALEXANDER, YOUR FIRE CHIEF. UH, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK TODAY ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S 2025 ANNUAL REPORT. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR COMING TO MY SWEARING CEREMONY. UH, IT MEANT A LOT TO ME AND MY FAMILY TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE MEMBER HERE. UH, IT, UH, IT MEANS A LOT. AND SO THANK Y'ALL VERY, VERY MUCH. AND SO NOW I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS IN MY LIFE THAT I ACTUALLY ENJOY TALKING ABOUT. UH, I LOVE TALKING ABOUT YOUTH SPORTS. I LOVE TALKING ABOUT, UH, OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, HUNTING, FISHING, UH, BIKING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND I LOVE TALKING ABOUT HOW GREAT THE ADDISON FIRE DEPARTMENT IS, UH, BECAUSE IT TRULY, TRULY IS. AND, UH, SO TODAY I GET TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LIKE. SO, OUR MISSION STATEMENT IN THE ADDISON FIRE DEPARTMENT IS PRETTY EASY, UH, STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT'S TO SAVE LIVES, PROTECT PROPERTY, AND TO SERVE, UH, WITH INTEGRITY. PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. THAT'S WHAT WE COME TO WORK, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DO, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU. SO OUR CORE VALUES IS ACCOUNTABILITY, FAMILY AND DUTY. A FD MATCHES UP REALLY WELL, RIGHT? UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. UH, WE HAVE A DUTY TO ACT. WE HAVE A DUTY TO SERVE. WE ARE HERE FOR YOU. UH, WE HAVE A FAMILY ATMOSPHERE. UH, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HERE. UH, YOU CALL US, WE'RE GONNA BE HERE. UH, AND SO IN OUR SOPS, UH, SO P 100 ACTUALLY IS PART OF OUR MISSION STATEMENT, AND IT GOES INTO LENGTH OF, UH, IN MORE DETAIL ON ALL THAT. AND A COUPLE THINGS I JUST WANTED TO READ Y'ALL, UH, INTO MORE DETAIL IS THAT THE LIVES OF OUR MEMBERS AND OUR CUSTOMERS ARE OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY. WE'RE HERE FOR Y'ALL. WE'RE HERE TO SERVE Y'ALL, AND WE'RE HERE TO TAKE CARE OF ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED US TO DO. UH, WE WILL STRIVE TO EARN THE RESPECT OF OUR COMMUNITIES BY PROVIDING THE BEST QUALITY OF SERVICE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE. AND WE ALSO, WE STRIVE TO BE PHYSICALLY RESPONSIBLE IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. UH, SO WE'RE LOOKING OUT FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. SO, OUR ORGANIZATION CHART, UH, IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, COMES DOWN ALL POINTS DOWN TO ME. UH, WE HAVE 60 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST WRAPPED UP OUR, UH, OPEN ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF POSITION. WE'RE HOPING TO MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE END OF THIS WEEK. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. UM, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT MEMBERS. WE HAVE A CHAPLAIN. WE HAVE A PART-TIME INSPECTOR. UH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR EMS DIRECTOR. THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED OUR, ONE OF OUR FTES, BUT THEY'RE ALSO PART OF OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. SO, SOME OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN 2025, WE RECLASSIFIED FOR OUR TEXAS BEST PRACTICES. WE RECLASSIFIED FOR OUR MISSION LIFELINE GOLD STANDARD, HIGHEST STANDARD THAT YOU CAN HAVE. AND SOME OF THE AWARDS THAT WE GOT THIS PAST YEAR WERE OUR TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES, EMS COMMUNITY RECOGNITION AWARD. SO THAT'S THROUGH THE WHOLE STATE OF TEXAS. [00:05:01] ADDISON WAS RECOGNIZED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES, WHO OVERSEES OUR EMS AND A LOT OF OTHER LICENSE SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS. WE RE, UH, REDESIGNED OUR PATCH. I HAVEN'T HAVE OUR OLD PATCH ON HERE, HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO SWITCH IT OUT YET. UH, THEN WE'RE ALSO, WE'RE STORM READY COMMUNITY. SO JULIE, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER'S, BEEN BUSY TODAY. SHE'S BEEN IN A LOT OF MEETINGS PREPARING, UH, LOOKING AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. AND, UH, SO LUCKILY WE JUST MISSED US. SO THE WORST STUFF. SO, UH, WHEN WE LEAVE HERE TODAY, WE SHOULD HAVE, UH, A NICE EVENING. SO LUCKILY FOR THAT, BUT JULIE KEPT US READY FOR THAT. WE RECLASSIFIED OUR DEPARTMENT ASSISTANT TO ADMINISTRATIVE COORDINATOR. UH, WE, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY, WE IMPLEMENTED A STEP PROGRAM. SO BIG THANKS TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVING THAT AND GETTING THAT THROUGH. THAT WAS, THAT WAS AWESOME. THAT'S BEEN A HUGE HELP, UH, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. AND SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, AND THEN OUR 48 96 SCHEDULE, AGAIN, THAT WENT THROUGH Y'ALL. THANK Y'ALL FOR APPROVING THAT AND GETTING THAT, UH, TO US. THAT THOSE TWO THINGS RIGHT THERE ALONE HAVE BEEN A HUGE HELP IN RETENTION AND MAKING SURE THAT, UH, OUR EMPLOYEES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY ARE HAPPY AND HEALTHY. SO, THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. UH, AND THIS PAST YEAR WE RECEIVED A GRANT FROM THE METROCREST HOSPITAL AUTHORITY, UH, FOR $40,000. AND WE USED THAT MONEY TO BUY AEDS. AND WE STARTED AN A ED PROGRAM. SO IF YOU COME TO, UH, ADDISON AND REQUEST A CPR CLASS AS A BUSINESS, AND WE GET TO TEACH YOUR EMPLOYEES CPR, WE WILL GIVE YOU AN A ED. UH, AND THAT MONEY CAME THROUGH METRIC REQUEST HOSPITAL AUTHORITY. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR THAT. UH, JULIE, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGER HAS PUT ON A LOT OF GREAT, UH, CLASSES. ONE OF THE BIG ONES WAS AT THE AIRPORT, A DISASTER DRILL THAT SHE DID. UH, THAT WAS A BIG DRILL AND IT KIND OF TESTED ALL ELEMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND OUR SURROUNDING AREAS. WE PUT THREE NEW APPARATUSES IN SERVICES, YEAR MEDIC 1 0 1, QUT 1 0 2, AND ENGINE 1 0 1. WE ALSO HAD SOME STATION UPGRADES. UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR CITY MANAGEMENT, UH, FOR APPROVING THOSE AND ALL THE, THE TOWN DEPARTMENTS THAT HELPED WITH THAT. WE WERE ABLE TO REPAINT, UH, STATION TWO, PUT IN SOME NEW TILE STATION ONE. WE WERE ABLE TO REDO THE KITCHEN AREA THAT DEF DESPERATELY NEEDED IT. FIRE ADMIN, WE PAINTED AND PUT SOME CARPET IN, AND THEN WE PUT A PRIVACY FENCE IN FOR STATION TWO, WHERE SOME PLANTS USED TO BE. THAT HAS DIED OVER TIME. AND WE THOUGHT A FENCE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT NICER. SO THE NEXT TWO SLIDES ARE ADDED. THIS WHOLE PRESENTATION ARE MY TWO FAVORITE SIDES. 'CAUSE IT REALLY HIGHLIGHTS HOW GREAT, UH, THE TOWN OF ADDISON IS AND HOW GREAT THE TOWN OF ADDISON FIRE DEPARTMENT IS. SO WE ARE AN ISO ONE DEPARTMENT. SO WHAT ISO IS, IS A PRIVATE COMPANY THAT GRADES FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO WE GET A, WE GET A NUMBER. GRADE ONE IS BEING THE BEST GRADE THAT YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY GET. 10 IS BEING THE WORST. SO OUT OF THE 710 FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, ONLY 96 HAVE THAT NUMBER. SO, WELL, WE'LL TALK LATER ON ABOUT BEING THE TIP OF THE SPEAR. WE'LL NARROW DOWN THOSE NUMBERS. SO, UH, BEST THING THAT YOU CAN HAVE, BUT IT, IT IS GRADED ON OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION. SO THANK YOU FOR TERRY AND INTECH AND THEIR STAFF FOR HAVING GREAT SERVICE. SO THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE THAT. AND THEN ALSO, BECKY AND HER STAFF, THE WATER DEPARTMENT IS ALSO GRADED WITHIN THIS ISO ONE. SO THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB. AND THEN IT ALSO GRADES OUR FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE. IT GRADES FIRE DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS. SO ALL THIS COMES INTO PLAY AND WE'RE PROVIDING THE BEST POSSIBLE SERVICE FOR THE INSURANCE COMPANIES, TEXAS BEST PRACTICES. SO OUT OF THE 710 FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, ONLY 33 HAD THIS DESIGNATION. UH, SO AGAIN, WE'RE NARROWING IT DOWN. UM, THIS IS OUT OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. IT'S SAYING THAT OUR DEPARTMENT MEETS ALL STANDARDS THROUGH THE STATE OF TEXAS BEFORE THE TEXAS FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION. SO WE'RE DOING OUR TRAINING. OUR RESPONSE TIMES ARE, ARE, ARE BETTER THAN MOST. OUR, UH, OUR DOCUMENTATION IS BETTER THAN MOST. OUR FIRE PREVENTION TEAM IS BETTER THAN MOST. EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS TOP OF THE NOTCH. SO OUR EMS THROUGH AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION, OR ME, UH, EMS, LIFELINE GOLD STANDARD IS THE HIGHEST STANDARD. YOU CAN HAVE BRONZE, SILVER, AND GOLD. WE HAVE, UH, RECLASSIFIED AS GOLD FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. AND, UH, THAT'S SAYING THAT WHEN YOU CALL 9 1 1 IN ADDISON, YOU'RE GONNA GET THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF EMS CARE THAT YOU CAN GIVE WHEN IT COMES TO STROKES, WHEN IT COMES TO HEART ATTACKS. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, UH, CARDIAC ARREST EVENTS THAT YOU'RE GETTING TOP-NOTCH SERVICE. AND IT GOES BACK TO OUR EMS STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE OUR, UH, MEDICAL CONTROL STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE. AND THEN A HEART SAFE COMMUNITY. THIS IS A, AND THIS IS A NICE ONE. THIS IS ANOTHER COMMUNITY AWARD. SO IT'S SAYING THAT OUR COMMUNITY'S READY AND THAT WE'RE HEART HEALTHY AND HEART, UH, CENTERED COMMUNITY. IT GOES INTO OUR PARK SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE. IT GOES INTO OUR A ED PROGRAM AND OUR CPR PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE AND OUR RESPONSE TIME. SO IT ALL BREAKS IN, ALL BREAKS DOWN. SO WITH OUR MISSION LIFELINE GOLD, THERE'S ONLY 31 DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT HAVE THAT. AND [00:10:01] FOR OUR HEART SAFE COMMUNITY, THERE'S ONLY 13 DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT HAVE THAT. SO WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. SO OUT OF THE FOUR DESIGNATIONS THAT WE HAVE, THERE'S ONLY FOUR DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS OUT OF THAT 710 DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT MEET ALL FOUR OF THOSE CRITERIA. SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE TIP OF THE SWORD, TIP OF THE SWORD AND HOW GREAT WE ARE, THIS IS THE NUMBERS BEHIND IT. THIS IS THE PROOF, UH, THAT ADDISON IS DOING IT RIGHT. AND IT ALL GOES DOWN TO COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTING US AND ALLOWING US TO DO THESE THINGS FOR OUR CITIZENS, THE PEOPLE THAT WE CARE ABOUT, UH, OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. SO THANK Y'ALL AGAIN FOR SUPPORTING US AND ALLOWING US TO DO THIS AND PROVIDE THIS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO OUR PROVIDER PREVENTION PROGRAM, THEY'RE BUSY. UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE TWO AND A HALF MEMBER, UH, DEPARTMENT, UH, THEY HAD THE FIRE MARSHAL, THEY HAVE AN INSPECTOR, AND THEY HAVE A PART-TIME INSPECTOR. UH, THEY DO A LOT. UH, THEY HAVE, UH, THEY'VE DONE SEVEN, ALMOST 800 INSPECTIONS AND, UH, LITTLE OVER, ALMOST 300 FIRE, UH, PLANS REVIEW. UM, THEY ALSO WERE ABLE, THIS PAST YEAR, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IN OUR BUDGET, THEY WERE ABLE TO DECREASE OUR FALSE ALARMS BY 12.5% THIS PAST YEAR. SAVING WORK HOURS FOR EMPLOYEES, SAVING, UH, WEAR AND TEAR ON APPARATUSES, GOING OUT, MAKING, UH, NUISANCE CALLS. SO THEY DID A FANTASTIC THIS PAST YEAR, REDUCING THOSE CALLS FOR US. SO OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS. SO 575 HOURS HAVE GONE TO, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WORKING WITH OUR, OUR LOCAL SCHOOL PROGRAMS, COMING OUT AND VISITING 'EM, TEACHING FIRE PREVENTION, TEACHING THEM CPR PROGRAMS, LETTING THEM KNOW, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE FRIENDS IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOU CAN ALWAYS TRUST US AND YOU, AND WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA BE THERE FOR YOU. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE PRIDE IN. AND, UH, THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REALLY LOVE, UH, DOING THIS WITH OUR COMMUNITY. SO OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, JULIE, SHE'S A ONE MAN SHOW. SHE'S FANTASTIC. SHE STAYS BUSY. SHE WAS BUSY TODAY, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE SAFE, MAKING SURE THAT WE COULD HAVE THIS MEETING TODAY, MAKING SURE THAT, UH, EVERYTHING'S GONNA RUN SMOOTHLY FOR US. UH, LIKE I SAID, SHE PUT ON A MASSIVE, UH, DISASTER DRILL AT THE AIRPORT THAT, THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL. THAT REALLY HELPED US SHOW WHAT THINGS THAT WE COULD DO BETTER, WHAT THINGS WE ARE DOING. GREAT. UH, SHE'S VERY, VERY ACTIVE IN THE REGION. SHE SITS ON A COUPLE, UH, BOARDS WITHIN THE REGION. UH, AND SO WE WERE VERY, VERY LUCKY TO HAVE HER IN EVERYTHING THAT SHE PROVIDES FOR US. SO WE HAVE 52 SWORN, UH, OPERATION PERSONNEL. UM, AND THEN WITH OVER 524 HOURS, OR SORRY, YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. UH, SO THANK YOU FOR THE COUNCIL LAST, COUNCIL FOR APPROVING OUR NEW RESCUE 1 0 1 AND OUR NEW SQUAD 1 0 1. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT HAVING THOSE, UH, THAT ARE COMING LATER ON THIS YEAR. UH, WE DO HAVE TWO AMBULANCES IN SERVICE. WE HAVE QUENT 1 0 2 PUT IN SERVICE EARLIER THIS YEAR. ENGINE 1 0 1 PUT IN SERVICE LAST YEAR, UH, TRUCK 1 0 1. UM, AND THEN OUR BATTALION CHIEF, UH, 1 0 1. SO WE'RE REALLY LUCKY TO HAVE THOSE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. SO AT ONE OF MY OLD DEPARTMENTS, WE'RE NOT GONNA MENTION ONE OF THOSE, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT BEING READY, READY, PERIOD. AND SO THAT IS WHAT THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ABOUT, IS ABOUT BEING PREPARED, BEING PREPARED FOR ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING. SO WE PUT IN OVER 16,000 HOURS OF TRAINING TO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE READY FOR OUR, OUR CITIZENS, THAT WHEN THEY CALL US, WE KNOW WHAT TO DO AND THAT WE'RE PREPARED FOR YOU. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOCUS ON IS FORCEFUL ENTRY, HIGH, LOW ANGLE BAILOUT, WATER SUPPLY, HOSE DEPLOYMENT, EMS EDUCATION. WE GOT SECOND IN THE EMS GAMES THIS YEAR. NEXT YEAR WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND GET, UH, NUMBER ONE. UH, IT WAS A TIGHT RACE. IT WAS LESS THAN A POINT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND. UH, I STILL THINK THEY TIPPED THE SKILLS 'CAUSE WE WON THE EMS COMMUNITY AND THAT THE OTHER CITY DIDN'T. SO, BUT, UH, WE DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT TRAINING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE READY. UM, AND SO SOME OF THE NUMBERS, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE HEAVY ON EMS. ABOUT 65% OF OUR CALLS ARE EMS. THAT'S OUR BREAD AND BUTTER. SO WHEN PEOPLE CALL 9 1 1, IT'S GENERALLY SOMETHING TO DO WITH MEDICAL. UH, SO WE RUN, RUN UNDER JUST A LITTLE UNDER 6,700 CALLS THIS PAST YEAR. WE DO VISIT OUR FRIENDS IN CARROLLTON AND FARMER BENCH QUITE A BIT, BUT ALSO THEY COME AND HELP US AS WELL. UM, SO WE ARE A BUSY LITTLE APARTMENT, AND THIS IS JUST A FUN SLIDE. THIS CHANGES FROM YEAR TO YEAR AND KIND OF MONTH TO MONTH. UM, OUR BUSIEST MONTH THIS PAST YEAR WAS THE, WITH MARCH, OUR BUSIEST DAY WAS THURSDAY. AND OUR BUSIEST DAY OF THE, UH, UH, BUSIEST TIME OF THE DAY WAS ABOUT 10:00 AM. UM, SO THAT FLUCTUATES. I THINK LAST YEAR IT WAS LIKE 3:00 PM SO IT JUST KIND OF CHANGES FROM YEAR, BUT IT'S JUST INTERESTING TO SEE. AND THEN SOME OF OUR BUSIEST APPARATUS IS ENGINE 1 0 1, BUSIEST DISTRICT IS BELTLINE AND MARSH. AND OUR AVERAGE CALLS PER DAY IS, UH, ABOUT 10 CALLS PER DAY. IS THAT, THAT ARE BETWEEN THE TWO FIRE STATIONS THAT WE'RE RUNNING. SO COMPARED TO THE QUAD, UH, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF MY FAVORITE SITES 'CAUSE IT KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS US ABOVE OUR, UH, QUAD CITY FRIENDS THAT WE HAVE. [00:15:01] IS THAT, SO CALLS PER STATION, WE ARE RUNNING MORE CALLS PER STATION WHILE CARROLLTON FARMER'S BRANCH IN ADDISON, THEY DO HAVE A HIGHER CALL VOLUME, BUT THEY HAVE MORE STATIONS. THEY'RE ABLE TO SPREAD OUT THOSE CALLS. SO OUR CALLS PER STATION ARE, ARE MORE KIND OF AID GIVEN, UH, TO EACH OF OUR MEMBERS DEPARTMENTS. AND THEN OUR CALL, THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST ONES, IS OUR FIRST ARRIVING UNITS. WERE BEATING US. SO WHEN YOU CALL 9 1 1, WE'RE GONNA GET TO YOU FASTER THAN CARROLLTON AND FARMER'S BRANCH IN A COP HELL OR, OR CALL TIMES ARE. AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE, KIND OF OUR AVERAGE FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WE'RE TRENDING UP. WE'RE, WE'RE STILL IN THE RANGE THAT WE WANT TO BE IN IS THAT FOUR-ISH MINUTE RANGE. SO WE'RE STILL MEETING OUR GOAL. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANKS, CHIEF. UH, CHRIS. CHRIS HERE. YOU DIDN'T OH, I HAVE MARLON. SORRY. UM, GREAT, GREAT WORK CHIEF. UH, YES SIR. THIRD TO LAST SLIDE. NUMBER OF INCIDENTS. YOU'VE GOT BUSIEST DISTRICT, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT 2 81? YES. SO THAT'S GONNA BE THE, THE MARSH LANE AND BELTLINE AREA. SO THAT WHOLE KIND OF, WE HAVE LIKE A BUBBLE IN THAT AREA. SO IT'S NOT ONE PARTICULAR ADDRESS, IT'S THAT WHOLE, WE JUST KIND OF ZONE THAT AREA. OKAY. UM, AND THEN ALSO, CAN YOU JUST KIND OF SHED A LITTLE BIT MORE COLOR ABOUT THE BATTERY REPLACEMENT PROGRAM? UM, BECAUSE I, I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW THAT WE DIDN'T ALWAYS DO. I THINK IN THE PAST WE WERE JUST KIND OF REPLACING BATTERIES ALMOST EVERY YEAR. RIGHT. GOOD BATTERIES THAT DIDN'T NEED TO BE REPLACED. YEAH. SO GOOD BATTERIES THAT DIDN'T NEED TO BE REPLACED WE'RE, DID WE COVER THAT? WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE REPLACING THEM WITH LONGER LASTING BATTERIES, SO WE'RE NOT MAKING SO MANY CALLS OUT. SO WE HAVE A TAG SYSTEM, SO WHEN PEOPLE COME AND SIGN UP, WE KNOW IF WE WENT TO YOU LAST YEAR OR IF WE NEED TO CHANGE 'EM IN TWO YEARS FROM NOW. SO IT'S REDUCING THE NUMBERS AND THAT'S WHY YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE NUMBERS HAVE DECREASED OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. UH, THAT'S BECAUSE THE BATTERY REPLACEMENT PROGRAM THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THOSE, UH, WE ALSO PROVIDE BATTERIES TO THE PUBLIC IF THEY WANNA CHANGE 'EM OUT THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF CALLING US. WE DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO HELP KIND OF CONTROL THOSE NUMBERS, UH, BECAUSE THEY WERE, THEY WERE HIGH IN THE PAST. YES, SIR. AND SO THE TYPES OF BATTERIES WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW FOR BATTERY REPLACEMENT, DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF AVERAGE YEARS? SO THE LASTING ANYWHERE FROM THREE TO FIVE YEARS? YES, SIR. THAT'S GREAT. YES, SIR. THAT'S HUGE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. AND, UH, DAN, CHIEF, YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE ON BELT AND MARSH. BELT LINE AND MARSH. THERE WE GO. SO BACK TO THAT 2 81 NUMBER, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. WE TALKING ABOUT ACCIDENTS WHERE YOU'RE NEEDED TO BE CALLED SO THAT, THAT COULD BE ANYTHING OF FIRE CALLS EMS CALLS TO OTHER, TO PUBLIC SERVICE CALLS. THAT THAT IS AN ALL ENCOMPASSING NUMBER OF 2 81. UM, SO IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE DIVIDED OUT. SO AS, UH, THIS NUMBER IS SHOWS, YOU KNOW, 64% OF THOSE 2, 2 81 CALLS ARE PROBABLY EMS RELATED CALLS. YES, SIR. OKAY. SO WITHIN THAT, UM, WITHIN THE ORDINANCE OF THAT TIER ONE, TIER TWO PROGRAM THAT CHIEF FREEZE HAS TALKED ABOUT, COULD THAT POTENTIALLY IMPACT THAT 2 81 NUMBER IN THE NEXT CALENDAR YEAR IF CERTAINLY IT POTENTIALLY COULD? SO WORKING WITH THOSE BUSINESSES IN THOSE AREAS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEFINITELY SEEING THAT, BUT THAT'S ALSO WHERE THE FIRE MARSHALS WILL COME IN, WHERE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT REDUCING THOSE NUMBER OF NUISANCE FIRE ALARM CALLS BY 12%. WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING IN THAT AREA AND ACROSS, UH, ADDISON TO HELP REDUCE SOME OF THOSE CALL VOLUMES. YEAH, I MEAN, WE'RE ALWAYS TAKING THE PROACTIVE APPROACH, BUT ARE THE OWNERSHIPS OF THOSE BUSINESSES BEING RECEPTIVE? HAVE YOU SEEN A CHANGE IN ATTITUDE TOWARD ? SO ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SIDE? YES. YES SIR. YES. YES, SIR. TOWARDS A FD? YES, SIR. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, CHRIS. SO FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN, THANK YOU ON YOUR ROLE. I'M REAL EXCITED FOR YOU. THANK YOU. AND CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HOW YOU'RE GONNA JUST GROW ON OUR PREVIOUS SUCCESSES. UH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YOU SAID WE HAD 60 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. HOW MANY FIREFIGHTERS DO WE 52 SWORN FIRE, FIRE PERSONNEL. YES, SIR. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THE STEP PLAN, AND I'VE HEARD SORT OF THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE THAT THAT'S WORKING REALLY WELL, FANTASTIC. TO RETAIN AND POSSIBLY ATTRACT. IS IS THAT TRUE? YES, SIR. SO OUR LAST HIRING PROCESS, UH, WE HAD MORE NUMBERS THAN WE HAVE IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS. I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD SAY THAT. YEAH. SO WE ACTUALLY, WE CREATED A LIST AND OUR LIST OF PEOPLE THAT WE BROUGHT IN FOR INTERVIEWS AND EVERYTHING, THAT LIST ALONE WAS MORE THAN WE HAVE RECEIVED IN THE PAST YEARS. THAT'S FANTASTIC. YES, SIR. THAT'S GREAT. AND THEN, UM, I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS, SO WITH THE, ALL THE DESIGNATIONS AND THE RESPONSE TIMES, IF YOU'RE AN ADDISON HOMEOWNER, IS THERE A DISCOUNT THAT YOU GET JUST BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE SO GOOD? SO WITH, WITH ISO ONE, THAT DOES CALCULATE INTO YOUR IN INSURANCE RATINGS THAT, THAT YOU HAVE. SO WHILE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT COME INTO WITH YOUR PREMIUMS THAT YOU PAY, YOU'RE GETTING THE BEST PRICE BECAUSE OF YOUR FIRE PROTECTION BECAUSE OF THAT ISO ONE NUMBER. OKAY. YES, SIR. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. RANDY, UH, I'M PULLING THAT MIC DOWN PLEASE. SURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [00:20:01] UH, WHILE I'M ON THIS SLIDE, UH, THE RESPONSE TIME, I SEE A PRETTY GOOD LITTLE V PATTERN THERE. YEAH. UH, WHAT CAN YOU, WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE 2023 TO BEING SO MUCH LOWER AND AND INCREASE? THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF REASONS FOR RESPONSE TIMES COMING FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF TOWN, BUT IS THERE ANY, DID WE DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT WITH, A LOT OF THAT IS JUST TRAFFIC. SO ADDISON IS GETTING BUSIER, SO WE'RE GETTING MORE TRAFFIC ON THE ROADS. AND SO WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, BE CAREFUL IN WHAT WE'RE DOING, SLOW DOWN FROM TIME TO TIME. AND INTERNALLY THAT IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS OUR BIGGEST THING. IS THAT GENERALLY JUST THE TRAFFIC ON THE ROADS. UM, AND THIS NUMBER VARIES, AS YOU CAN TELL. IT VARIES FROM YEAR TO YEAR TO YEAR. WE HAD A GREAT YEAR IN 2023. UM, SO ARE WE DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN? I DON'T THINK SO. IT'S REALLY, IT'S JUST OUR TRAFFIC PATTERNS. UH, MAYBE SOME MORE CONSTRUCTION IN THE AREA, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. UH, BUT HAVE WE CHANGED WHAT WE'RE DOING BETWEEN NOW AND THEN? NO. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE FLUCTUATION. WHEN, WHEN DID OUR, WHEN DID OUR SHIFT WORK CHANGE? UH, JANUARY OF THIS, UH, THIS YEAR. JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. YES SIR. ARE WE ATTRIBUTING ANY INCREASED RESPONSE TIME TO PEOPLE WORKING 48 HOURS INSTEAD OF 24? WE HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED ANY ADDITIONAL RESPONSE TIMES, UH, BECAUSE OF THE SHIFT SCHEDULE. OKAY. SO, SO NO, NO FATIGUE FACTOR IN, NO FATIGUE. YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS INTERNALLY WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE WERE KIND OF CONCERNED THAT COULD HAPPEN. BUT YOU NEVER KNOW UNTIL IT ACTUALLY, UNTIL YOU GET A FULL YEAR'S WORK, UH, WORK IN AND, UH, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT. PERFECT. YEAH. PERFECT. UM, BATTERY REPLACEMENT TIME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WE'RE NOT REPLACING 'EM TOO MUCH. UM, WE USED TO TELL PEOPLE WHEN YOU CHANGE YOUR CLOCKS, CHANGE YOUR BATTERY CLOCKS, CHANGE YOUR BATTERIES. HAVE WE GOT AWAY FROM THAT? SO WE STILL RECOMMEND TESTING YOUR BATTERY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU CHANGE IT, BUT WE'RE ADDING LONGER LASTING. SO IF YOU GO OUT AND BUY A BATTERY, WE STILL RECOMMEND YOU DOING THAT. BUT WE'RE, WE'RE ADDING LONGER LASTING BATTERIES. SO WE'RE SAYING JUST CHECK YOUR BATTERY WHEN THE TIME CHANGE AND THEN WE'LL COME OUT AND, AND JUST KIND OF VERIFY IT SO WE ARE AT LEAST TELLING THEM TO ACTIVATE IT AND CHECK IT WHEN THE CLOCK. YES, SIR. A HUNDRED PERCENT. I LIKE THAT. TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, EVERYTHING'S GETTING BETTER, CORRECT? YES, SIR. UM, WASN'T IN YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY, BUT BEEN ON, HAS BEEN ON MY MIND. WHOSE DECISION WAS IT? WHO, WHO MADE THE CALL TO PAINT ALL THE FIRE HYDRANTS BLUE? THAT WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU. THAT WAS, UH, I THINK THE DECISION OF PRIOR TO, UH, BECKY BEING HERE, THOSE DECISIONS WERE, UH, BEING MADE THAT WE WANTED ADDISON BLUE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING. SO ALL OF OUR HYDRANTS MEET WHAT I'M GETTING AT. NO, I, I KNOW ALL OF OUR HYDRANTS MEET THE HIGHER STANDARDS. AND SO WE, WE KNOW INTERNALLY IN ALL OF OUR PARTNER CITIES KNOW THAT ADDISON, YOU'RE GONNA GET THE HIGHEST WATER FLOW. SO AS THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE GREENS AND REDS AND YELLOWS FOR, FOR WATER FLOWS, WE EXCEED THE, THE HIGHEST STANDARD. SO OUR OURS DO NOT NEED TO BE COLOR COORDINATED TO TELL US ANYTHING BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT IT IS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR PARTNERS, WE'RE BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT TOUCH OUR BOUNDARIES, BUT CORRECT. SHOULD WE GET SOMETHING AND WE GET SOMEBODY FROM A, A FARTHER OFF CITY. MM-HMM . PLANO DOESN'T COME IN HERE VERY OFTEN. PLANOS NOT GONNA COME IN HERE. SO OUR FARTHEST OFF CITY THAT WOULD COME IN HERE WOULD BE ANOTHER PARTNER OF, OF THE QUAD WOULD BE COPPEL. SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE THE SEVEN YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, COPPEL HAS RESPONDED TO ADDISON ONE TIME. AND THAT WAS FOR OUR APARTMENT FIRE THAT WE HAD ON THE, BUT EVERYONE IS AWARE OF OUR, EVERYONE IS AWARE AND, AND THE SIMILAR CITIES FOR KNOW THAT THE COLOR OF THE HYDRANTS TYPICALLY INDICATE WHAT SIZE WATER MAIN IS WATER MAIN AND HOW MUCH WATER FLOW THE DRIVER OPERATOR, HOW MUCH WATER HE CAN GET OUT OF THAT HYDRANT. YEAH. AND BLUE IS NOT A VERY BIG WATER. NO, NOT A VERY BIG WATERMAN. NO, I SAW THOSE ALL GETTING PAINTED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M THINKING, DO WE HAVE MINUSCULE WATER ME MAINS IN OUR CITY? NO. WE JUST, YOU KNOW, ADDISON BLUE WANNA LOOK GOOD. IT'S JUST NOT AN ARC PIECE. CORRECT. NO. CORRECT. UM, AND IF FSTA HAS HAD NO ISSUE, NO. SO THAT'S PART OF OUR, THAT'S PART OF OUR IO ONE IS THAT OUR, YOU KNOW, ALL OUR HYDRANTS GETTING TESTED, HOW IS OUR WATER FLOW? ALL THAT IS ENCOMPASSED INTO THAT IO ONE RATING. NEVER HAS ANYTHING BEEN SAID ABOUT OUR COLOR OF OUR HYDRANTS BECAUSE WE SHOW THEM THE DATA. OUR HYDRANTS, WE'RE RUNNING 60, 60 PLUS MOST OF THE TIME. SO YEAH. SO ACTUALLY WE HAVE PROBLEMS WHEN WE DO PROMOTIONAL TESTS. . I KNOW. YEAH. WELL WE, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS AS, AS A DRIVER OPERATOR, I LOOK AT THAT AND I'M THINKING, MAN, I THOUGHT WE HAD BIGGER HYDRANT. NO. WHEN, UM, NO, WE HAVE GREAT WATER PRESSURE. WE HAVE A GREAT WATER DEPARTMENT HERE. AND ACTUALLY WE HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES TO PROMOTIONAL TESTS IS THAT WE HAVE TO PUMP A LOT OF WATER AND DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO TRICK THE, THE POTENTIAL NEW DRIVER. WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO CUT THE HYDRANT DOWN SO THAT WHILE A ROD PRITCHARD IS NOT AS GOOD, [00:25:01] BECAUSE IT, UH, IT MAKES THE, THE CHALLENGE TOO EASY FOR HIM. SO YEAH, IT'S A GOOD PROBLEM. THANK YOU. AND I ECHO ALL THAT CHRIS SAID. WELCOME. THANK YOU. GREAT JOB. WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU. YES SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. HEY, CJ? YES SIR. GREAT PRESENTATION. CONGRATULATIONS. SO ON UH, THE ANALYTICS SLIDE YOU MENTIONED A, UH, REDUCTION IN THE FALSE ALARM. YES, SIR. SO I THOUGHT YOU SAID, UH, LET'S SEE. IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT SLIDE, IT'S UH, THAT SLIDE, RIGHT? UM, I THOUGHT YOU SAID REDUCED BY 12%. SO YOU MENTIONED WE DID, WE DID REDUCE. SO FROM 2025 TO 2024 TO 2025, WE REDUCED THE CALL VOLUME ABOUT 12%. OKAY. OKAY, GOOD. WHEN IT COMES TO FALSE ALARMS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, HOW DO YOU DO THAT? BEING PROACTIVE? OUR FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE HAS BEEN FANTASTIC WORKING WITH THESE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE FIRE ALARMS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY MEET THE STANDARDS, MAKING SURE THEY'RE GETTING ANNUAL INSPECTIONS, MAKING SURE, UH, THAT UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SEE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT QUITE RIGHT, WE'RE MAKING SURE WE'RE COMMUNICATING TO THE BUILDING OWNER THAT HEY, YOU NEED TO GET THIS LOOKED AT. THIS COULD CAUSE PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE. AND SO WE'RE BEING REALLY PROACTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO THESE BUILDINGS. DO YOU SEE ROOM FOR THAT TO GO DOWN EVEN MORE? I DO. AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE TO HELP CONTINUE THAT, UH, DECREASED CALL VOLUME THERE. DOES THAT INCLUDE, UM, LIKE, UH, HOME FIRE ALARMS? IT DOES NOT INCLUDE HOME FIRE ALARMS. SO THIS IS MORE, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON BUSINESSES 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY CAN ENFORCE. WE CAN'T ENFORCE A LOT OF THE HOME FIRE ALARMS. ALRIGHT. THANKS HOWARD. SO I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, YOUR ENTHUSIASM IS AMAZING. THANK YOU. I I, I JUST, EVERY TIME YOU GET UP AND SPEAK SINCE THIS PROMOTION, I'M LIKE BLOWN AWAY. SO I LOVE THAT YOU LOVE YOUR JOB. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, BY THE WAY. AND I, I HAVE A DUMB QUESTION. THERE'S NO DUMB QUESTIONS. WELL, THE BATTERY REPLACEMENT THING, , YOU DON'T WANNA KNOW , DO THOSE, DO THE BATTERY CALLS COUNT AS SOME OF THESE CALLS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO NO, THOSE BATTERY REPLACEMENTS DO NOT, ARE NOT CONSIDERED CALLS OF SERVICE. THOSE ARE JUST MORE COMMUNITY REACHES OUT TO US FOR HELP AND WE'RE THERE TO HELP THEM AND DO EXTRA THINGS. SO IT'S MORE OR LESS TRAINING HOURS FOR US OR IT'S, UH, JUST PROACTIVE HOURS. IT'S DOESN'T, IT'S NOT A CALL OF SERVICE. SO IN THIS, UH, 36 77, NONE OF THOSE BATTERIES INSPECTIONS ARE PART OF THAT 36 77. ANY IDEA WHAT THE NUMBER IS FOR THE BATTERY CALLS? JUST DID YOU, DID YOU MISSED IT? SO HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE GONE OUT AND REPLACED THE BATTERIES? LIKE ANNUALLY, WHAT? SO ANNUALLY, SO LAST YEAR WE DID, UH, BATTERY INSTALLS. WE DID 359 BATTERY INSTALLS LAST YEAR. YEAH. SO THAT WOULD ADD, AND THAT INCLUDES, THAT'S NOT 359 BUILDINGS. YOU MAY HAVE FOUR OR FIVE IN YOUR HOME AND THAT'S ALL THAT'S INCLUDED. OKAY. YES SIR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE. SO ON THE NUMBER OF INCIDENTS SLIDE, SO THIS IS, UM, REALLY INTERESTING TO ME. UH, NEXT OTHER SLIDE. THAT ONE, ENGINE 1 0 1, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT ONE OF THE BUSIEST APPARATUSES 1700 CALLS YES, SIR. LEFT THE FIRE STATION 1700 TIMES. YEP. IT'S RESPONDED TO ALMOST 1700 CALLS AS OF LAST YEAR. AND THAT NUMBER, AND THERE'S OTHER UNITS THAT ARE CLOSE TO IT. SO QUENT 1 0 2 IS ALSO ANOTHER BUSY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. SO QUENT 1 0 2 AND ENGINE 1 0 1 TEND TO BOUNCE BACK AND FORTH. A LOT OF THE TIMES TRUCK 1 0 1 IS A LITTLE BIT SLOWER 'CAUSE WE DON'T SEND THAT OUT ON EVERY SINGLE MEDICAL CALL. SO ENGINE 1 0 1 TAKES PRIORITY, AND THEN IF ENGINE ONE OH ONE'S BUSY ON A MEDICAL CALL, TRUCK 1 0 1 WILL TAKE THAT CALL. WOW. THAT IS A LOT OF USAGE. THANKS. YES, SIR. THANK YOU CHIEF. UH, REALLY GREAT. DO YOU, ARE WE STAFFED UP NOW? WE WERE FULLY STAFFED UNTIL CHIEF JONES RETIRED. , BUT, UH, I HAVE, UH, I HAVE MY NEW AC WORKING ON THAT AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT PERSON FILLED HERE SHORTLY. THAT'S GREAT. WELL, I'M, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE FOUR CERTIFICATIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT ALMOST NOBODY ELSE HAS. YES, SIR. THAT, THAT'S AMAZING. REALLY CONGRATULATIONS FOR THAT. YES, SIR. ARE THERE ANY OTHERS THAT, THAT ARE SEEKING OUT OR, OR IS THAT KIND OF ALL WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW? THIS IS, THIS IS THE BIG FOUR THAT WE CALL, THAT WE LIKE TO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OTHER RECOGNITIONS, LIKE THROUGH THE STATE, UH, ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY RECOGNITION THAT WE GOT. AND SO THERE IS OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD KIND OF GO AFTER. BUT RIGHT NOW THESE ARE THE BEST FOUR THAT YOU CAN REALLY HAVE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. THAT'S GREAT. YES, SIR. THAT'S SO EXCITING. AND THEN ECHO THE WORK FROM EVERYBODY ELSE. CONGRATULATIONS. AND WE'RE SO PROUD OF, UH, YOU AND, UH, THE DEPARTMENT AND YOU KNOW, ADDISON LOVES OUR, OUR FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENT, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES SIR. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE FROM EVERYBODY? ALRIGHT, WITH THAT THANK YOU CHIEF. THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCIL, APPRECIATE Y'ALL AND GOOD TIMING. IT'S, UH, COMING UP ON SEVEN O'CLOCK, SO WE'LL TAKE A, UH, FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL CONVENE INTO CHAMBERS FOR OUR REGULAR [00:30:01] MEETING IN FIVE MINUTES. GOOD [ COUNCIL MEETING The Addison City Council will convene for a Council Meeting beginning at 7:00 PM in the Town Hall Council Chambers.] EVENING EVERYBODY. IT IS 7 0 8 AND WE WILL RECONVENE THE COUNCIL INTO REGULAR SESSION. UH, AND WE'RE, UH, NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY THIS EVENING IN THE LITTLE BIT OF A STORMY WEATHER OUT THERE. AND AS ALWAYS, WE'D LIKE TO START OUR MEETINGS WITH THE PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS. IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FRAUD. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEASURE ALLEGIANCE TO LEAD TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. ALL RIGHT. AND JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER, WE DO STILL HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT WITH ALL MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING. [2. Proclamations / Presentations] GOING TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. UH, TWO A IS CITY MANAGER'S ANNOUNCEMENTS AND TWO B IS EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION. DAVID GAINES. THANKS MAYOR. A COUPLE ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT. JOIN US FOR OUR FIRST EVER LEMONADE WITH LOCAL HEROES ON FRIDAY, MAY 1ST FROM 12 TO 2:00 PM AT ADDISON AT THE ADDISON TARGET STORE. OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE TEAMING UP WITH OUR LOCAL TARGET FOR AN AFTERNOON OF CONNECTION AND COMMUNITY. THIS COME AND GO EVENT IS, IS ALL SHARING, IS FOR SHARING A GLASS OF LEMONADE AND GETTING TO KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE AND PROTECT ADDISON EVERY DAY. I WILL SAY I LOOKED AT THE FORECAST FOR FRIDAY AND IT IS COLD AND RAINY RIGHT NOW. SO IF WE CHANGE THAT DATE, WE WILL LET EVERYONE KNOW. NEXT. ADDISON SINGER SONGWRITER SHOWCASE KICKS OFF ON THURSDAY, MAY 7TH IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK. JOIN US EVERY THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH THE END OF JULY, EXCEPT FOR JULY 2ND FROM SEVEN TO 8:00 PM FOR MUSIC UNDER THE STARS. AND THAT'S IT FOR OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT. NEXT FOR OUR EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION, I'LL ASK CHIEF FRIES TO COME UP. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. CHRIS FRIES, CHIEF OF POLICE. I'M DELIGHTED TO INTRODUCE SHANE ANDERSON TONIGHT. SHANE IS THE DEDICATED MEMBER OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO HAS SERVED THE TOWN OF ADDISON SINCE SEPTEMBER OF 2016 AND CURRENTLY HOLDS THE RANK OF POLICE LIEUTENANT ORIGINALLY FROM THE SMALL TOWN OF MAUD, OKLAHOMA. SHANE'S UPBRINGING REFLECTS STRONG COMMUNITY VALUES AND A DEEP APPRECIATION FOR HARD WORK. HE GRADUATED FROM CANOA HIGH SCHOOL BEFORE CONTINUING HIS EDUCATION, EARNING A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE FROM EAST CENTRAL UNIVERSITY AND A MASTER'S DEGREE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE. FROM ANGELO STATE UNIVERSITY FAMILY IS AT THE HEART OF SHANE'S LIFE. HE AND HIS WIFE JENNA, HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR 15 YEARS UNDER THE PROUD PARENTS OF TWO CHILDREN, ADELINE, AGE NINE AND AIDEN AGE FIVE. HE CONSIDERS RAISING HIS CHILDREN HIS MOST MEANINGFUL PERSONAL ACCOMPLISHMENT. ALTHOUGH HE DOESN'T CLAIM A FAVORITE SPORTS TEAM, SHANE ENJOYS BOTH WATCHING AND PLAYING SPORTS. MUCH OF HIS FREE TIME IS SPENT WITH HIS FAMILY, WHETHER THEY'RE OUT AT THE LAKE OR CHEERING ON HIS CHILDREN AND THEIR YOUTH SPORTS ACTIVITIES. SHANE'S PATH TO ADDISON BEGAN WITH ENCOURAGEMENT FROM HIS FRIENDS WHEN HE WORKED AT THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO URGED HIM TO APPLY. SINCE JOINING THE ADDISON POLICE DEPARTMENT, HE HAS EMBRACED OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW AND CONTRIBUTE, TAKING PRIDE IN CHALLENGING THE STATUS QUO AND HELPING MOVE THE ORGANIZATION FORWARD. TO SHANE. THE ADDISON WAY MEANS TREATING EVERYONE WITH KINDNESS, FOCUSING ON SOLUTIONS AND CONSISTENTLY GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR BOTH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS. HIS DEDICATION TO THE COMMUNITY SHINES THROUGH IN EVERYTHING THAT HE DOES. PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING SHANE ANDERSON. THANK YOU CHIEF. THANK YOU LIEUTENANT. APPRECIATE YOU BOTH. ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU DAVID? NOPE. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT, [3. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.] ITEM THREE IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. UH, CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA. COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS. CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW. THE COUNCIL IS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS IN THE ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. I DO HAVE ONE COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARD. SO AT THIS TIME I WILL CALL TRISH STEWART AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THE DRILL. I DO. THANK YOU. HELLO, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. TRISH STEWART, 1 5 7 5 5 SEABOLD ADDISON. TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THE STATE OF OUR TOWN DURING THIS ELECTION SEASON. AND I'M GOING TO STAY ON HIGH GROUND BECAUSE THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT SLANDER AND BULLYING OF GOOD PEOPLE. AND I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT BECAUSE ACROSS OUR NATION, AMERICA IS DIVIDED BY PARTIES AND OUR MUNICIPAL ELECTION IS SUPPOSED TO BE SEPARATE. FOR THAT REASON, ALL CANDIDATES ARE AT LARGE AND NOT PARTY AFFILIATED. SO HERE IN ADDISON, OUR DIVISION HAS BEEN OVER THE DART QUESTION AND IT'S TAKEN OVER OUR NEIGHBORHOODS DECIDING IF YOU CAN TALK TO A [00:35:01] NEIGHBOR OR NOT, JUST BASED ON A SIGN IN YOUR YARD. AND PEOPLE ASK IF YOU ARE A PRO DART OR ANTI-ART, AND PEOPLE EQUATE THAT ARGUMENT TO BEING PROTRAN OR ANTI-TRANS. BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE. PUBLIC TRANSIT IS IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE AND IT SHOULD NOT BE THE REASON FOR THIS AWFUL DIVISION. ADDISON SHOULD BE PROUD THAT OUR LITTLE TOWNS STOOD WITH SOME REALLY BIG CITIES TO BUILD, TRY TO BUILD REGIONAL TRANSIT WHILE A HUNDRED CITIES IN THE REGION STILL HAVE NOT. WE'VE SPENT OVER 43 YEARS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND HAVE NOT EVEN MADE A DENT IN THE ACCESS THAT'S NEEDED. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD ALL BE LAID ON ADDISON'S PLATE TO SOLVE. SO BY LEGAL RIGHT, WE CITIZENS SHOULD BE ABLE TO DISCUSS AND QUESTION THE USE OF OUR SALES TAX. AS DALLAS KNOWS, THERE IS NO MONEY TREE AND MILLIONS OF TAX DOLLARS THAT COULD BE USED TO SUPPORT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. OUR BUILDINGS, OUR ROADS, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN CONTROLLED BY A CITY ON A BOARD THAT HAS JUST DECLARED THAT IT'S BROKE. SO LET'S JUST SAY YOU MANAGED A BUSINESS AND THERE WAS A REGIONAL HEALTHCARE PLAN THAT YOU SPENT 30% OF YOUR BUDGET ON. AND SOME OF YOUR PEOPLE DEPENDED ON IT, BUT OTHERS DIDN'T USE IT. THERE WAS A LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU SAW DOCTORS GETTING BIG RAISES WHILE SECURITY AND SAFETY WEREN'T A PRIORITY. AND IF YOU HAD AN OPTION THAT COST LESS, BUT STILL OFFERED FREE ACCESS TO THAT REGIONAL PLAN AND A REDUCED COST TO MORE SPECIALIZED SERVICE FOR OTHERS THAT NEEDED IT, WOULDN'T IT BE WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION? WELL, IN ADDISON, WERE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS IT. ADDISON ORBIT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE AREN'T EVEN AWARE OF AND UH, THEY CAN'T EVEN CONSIDER THAT OPTION BECAUSE INSTEAD, NEIGHBORS HAVE CLOSED THEIR EARS AND TURNED AWAY FROM CURING PEOPLE WHO ONLY WANTED TO CONSIDER THIS. NOBODY'S GOING TO BE LEFT BEHIND. PARATRANSITS INCLUDED. ACCESS TO DART IS ASSURED. LOOK AT BELTLINE IN ADDISON CIRCLE. WE COULD USE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, LOOK AT OUR ROADS, LOOK AT OUR INCREASED NEEDS FOR SAFETY. LOOK AT ALL OF THE NEEDS THAT THE FIRE, UH, DEPARTMENT A ADDRESSES EVERY DAY. SO SHOULD ADDISON COMMIT TO SIX MORE YEARS WITH TRANSPORTATION CHANGING QUICKLY, SHOULD WE BE LOCKED INTO A SHARE OF BILLIONS WITH A 2% VOTE? AND THAT IS A VALID QUESTION. YET WE'RE SHAMED AND BULLIED FOR ASKING THE QUESTION WHEN ADDISON IS NOT GOING TO SAVE DART. BUT ADDISON DOES NEED TO SAVE ADDISON'S FUTURE AND THAT IS WHY WE ALONE, NOT ANYONE ELSE VOTES ON THE ALLOCATION OF OUR SALES TAX. ALICE, I'LL WRAP IT UP, BUT JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HOPE THAT PEOPLE CONSIDER WHAT'S BEST FOR ADDISON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU TRISH. AND THAT'S THE ONLY COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARD I HAVE. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD. ALRIGHT. AND WE DID HAVE ONE, UH, PUBLIC CO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS SENT TO THE COUNCIL VIA EMAIL AND FROM CHANEL BLANTON. AND THAT EMAIL DOCUMENT WILL BE INCLUDED, UH, IN THE PUBLIC RECORD AND AVAILABLE, UH, TO THE PUBLIC. AND WITH THAT, SEEING NO OTHERS THAT, UH, WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, WE'LL CLOSE THAT ITEM, UH, THE PUBLIC COMMENT ITEM AND MOVE ON [4. Consent Agenda. All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.] TO ITEM FOUR. THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSENT TONIGHT INCLUDES ITEM FOUR A THROUGH FOUR D AND I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL MEMBER GARDNER WOULD LIKE TO PULL ONE ITEM I'D LIKE TO PULL, UH, ITEM FOUR C, MAYOR. OKAY, SURE. GO RIGHT AHEAD. CAN I GO AHEAD. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE, UH, ITEMS FOUR A, FOUR B AND FOUR D SECOND. THAT MOTION? OKAY, WE HAVE UH, MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THOSE ITEMS? O ONLY ONE, ONLY ONE QUESTION OF DISCUSSION ON D IS, IS IS THAT TRUCK, THE TRUCK TO REPLACE ONE THAT WE JUST WRECK? IS IS THAT OUR TRUCK TO PICK UP THE, THE BRANCHES AND THE LIMBS AND THINGS? OH, YOU'RE ASKING IF YOU'RE ASKING ME. I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER. I DO. I WAS LOOKING THIS WAY. HOPING THAT ONE OF THE TWO OF Y'ALL KNEW THAT BILL HOLLY, DIRECTOR OF GENERAL SERVICES? NO SIR. THAT'S NOT A A GRAPPLE TRUCK. IT'S A DIFFERENT TRUCK. OKAY. YES SIR. IT'S, IT, IT'LL PICK UP HEAVY OBJECTS. IT'S AN F FIVE 50. UH, THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT USES IT WHEN THEY'RE PICKING UP HEAVY PIPES AND OTHER THINGS. AND, UM, HUGE CRANE ON THE BACK THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELCOME. THANK YOU BILL. ALRIGHT, SO HEY BILL, I, I ASKED THIS PRIVATELY, BUT JUST TO MAKE IT PART OF THE RECORD, I WAS QUESTIONING THE NEW TRUCK. THAT'S A 2024 MODEL, BUT IT'S NEW. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD WARRANTY ON THAT TRUCK BECAUSE OF IT'S AGE. AND SO I'LL ASK THE QUESTION, YOU CAN ANSWER. SURE. AND ACTUALLY, UH, THANK YOU. GREAT, GREAT QUESTION. WE CONTACTED THE DEALERSHIP, IT'S UH, THREE YEARS, 36,000 MILES FROM THE DAY WE DRIVE IT OFF THE LOT, NOT FROM THE DATE THAT IT WAS MANUFACTURED. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. OKAY, VERY GOOD. WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND FOR ITEMS FOUR, A, B, AND D. UM, ALL ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. THE OPPOSED. AYE. THOSE ITEMS ARE APPROVED, DARREN. [c. Consider action on a Resolution approving an agreement with Bureau Veritas for on-call building inspection services and authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement in an amount not to exceed $67,500.] SO ON ITEM UH, FOUR C, IT'S UH, [00:40:01] USING A BUREAU OF VERTA, VERITAS FOR ON-CALL BUILDING SERVICES. UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, WE HAVE A SMALL TEAM THERE OF TWO PEOPLE AND THAT WITH A SMALL TEAM YOU CAN HAVE OUTAGES FOR ALL KINDS OF REASONS. AND THIS, I'D ASK THE QUESTION, UH, AS, AS FAR AS WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF IT, IT'S MOSTLY A, A FILL IN, UM, TO, UH, TO COVER THE OUTAGES. LEMME JUST DOUBLE CHECK HERE. GETTING THERE. UM, , THAT'S CORRECT. IS THAT RIGHT, DAVID? CORRECT. AND IF YOU REMEMBER, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR, WE HAD SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF OUTAGES LAST YEAR WITH STAFF. SO IT WAS A BIG HELP TO HAVE THIS AS A BACKSTOP FOR THOSE. AND SO LAST YEAR THE USAGE WAS ABOUT A THIRD OF THIS TOTAL. SO IT WAS 22,000 LAST YEAR, EVEN THOUGH WE HAD A LOT OF OUTAGES. SO THAT'S, THAT IS GOOD TO KNOW. THANK YOU LESLIE. UM, THAT IS THE LESLIE KNIGHT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. THAT IS THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR TO DATE. OKAY. SO LAST FISCAL YEAR WE USED JUST OVER $6,000. OKAY. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO, UM, IN MY QUESTION WAS, UH, PRIMARILY ADDRESSING GAP OR SPECIALIZED EXPERTISE OR BOTH. AND, UH, THE ANSWER WAS THE GAP. COVERING THE GAP. UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE IS THAT, UM, UH, UH, I WOULD MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THIS, UH, ITEM WITH A, UH, CHANGING IT TO, UH, NOT RENEWING ANNUALLY THAT WE, UH, WE MANUALLY CONSIDER EACH, EACH YEAR ANNUALLY. 'CAUSE IT'S RIGHT NOW IT'S GOT LIKE AN AUTOMATIC EVERGREEN IN IT FOUR YEARS. CRAIG. THE, THE, THE PROPOSAL IS FOR AN, IT'S A, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR AN AUTO RENEW IF WE NEED IT. UM, SO WE, AS IT'S PROPOSED, IT COULD UM, WE COULD CANCEL IT AT ANY TIME 'CAUSE THEY'RE JUST, IT'S A CONTINGENCY CONTRACT TO USE AS AN ON AND AS NEEDED BASIS. UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING IT BACK EVERY YEAR. NO PROBLEM. UM, THE AUTORENEW WOULD JUST ALLOW US IT AS NEEDED BASIS TO ROLL OVER UNTIL WE CEASE NEEDING THE SERVICES. I'M OKAY WITH EVERY WHICH, WHICHEVER MECHANISM IF WE WANNA KEEP IT ON AUTORENEW, BUT SO LONG AS WE APPROVE IT EVERY YEAR. SO IT'S NOT LIKE AN AUTORENEW ON A, ON A BILL OR SOMETHING THAT JUST GONNA AUTOMATICALLY PAY, IT'S STILL GONNA GET APPROVED EVERY YEAR. UM, SO WE ONLY PAY UP TO THE CONTRACTED AMOUNT, WHICH IS THE 67 5 IF WE USE THE SERVICES. SO IF, UM, SO IF, IF YOU LOOK IN 2023, EXCUSE ME, FISCAL YEAR 2023, UM, WE HAD THIS CONTRACT IN PLACE, BUT WE DID NOT USE ANY OF THEIR SERVICES 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T NEED THEM. MM-HMM . AND SO WE PAID $0. SO IT'S JUST, UH, ON AN AS ED BASIS. UM, SO IF IT WAS, I, UM, DARREN I THINK IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. IF YOU WANTED IT TO COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL EVERY YEAR, UH, WE WOULD NEED TO DO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT. THE AUTO RENEWAL WOULD ALLOW US TO JUST RENEW ANNUALLY WITHOUT, UM, COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. I JUST DIDN'T WANNA BE LOCKED INTO THAT. 'CAUSE IF YOU MISS THE AUTORENEW, THEN IT AUTOMATICALLY RENEWS AND YOU'RE STUCK IN IT FOR ANOTHER YEAR. BUT, BUT WE'RE NOT PAYING IT, RIGHT? WHAT? NO, SO IT'S, IT'S $0. SO, UM, WE, IF WE DON'T WANT TO USE THEM, WE JUST DON'T USE THEM AND WE CAN CANCEL AT ANY TIME. THERE'S NO, UM, EVEN IF IT AUTO RENEWS, WE'RE NOT LOCKED INTO PAYING ANYTHING. OKAY. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. YEAH. 'CAUSE UH, SOME OTHER CONVERSATION LATER IN THE BUDGET SEASON THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS AS WELL. SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD COVER FOR MY OKAY. YEAH. AND I, I'M, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION AND I'M, I'M OKAY WITH SEEING IT ON OUR AGENDA. I WOULD LIKE IT ON THE AGENDA, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE, I MEAN YOU'RE ASKING FOR THAT. THE OTHER THING IS, IS IF UM, UH, MAYBE WE DON'T USE IT, MAYBE IT'S UNDER 50,000, THEN IT WOULDN'T EVEN NEED TO COME BEFORE US. POSSIBLY IN THE FUTURE. CORRECT. SO WHAT THIS, UH, AND YOU'RE CORRECT, WHAT THIS IS BUDGETED FOR IS, UM, SIX WEEKS OF CONTINUOUS SERVICE IS WHAT WE HAVE DETERMINED TO BE AN APPROPRIATE, UM, BUFFER, IF YOU WILL, FOR US TO ACCOUNT FOR VACANCIES OR SICKNESSES, UM, AND SO FORTH. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. AND IF YOU ADD UP THOSE POTENTIAL COSTS THAT COMES TO THE 67 5, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE YEARS AND WE HAVE NOT SINCE WE'VE MOST RECENTLY HAD THIS CONTRACT EVEN BEGUN TO APPROACH THE 50,000. SO, SO IF WE, IF WE COME UP WITH SOME WAYS TO AVOID USING IT AT ALL, THEN WE WON'T PAY ANY OF IT AND IT'S, IT'S NO, OKAY. SO I I DO LIKE THAT PAYS PAY FOR WHAT YOU USE, CORRECT. YEAH. IT'S ONLY, WE ONLY PAY ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS WHEN WE NEED IT. SO, AND THIS YEAR WE'VE JUST JUST HAD A, UM, A COUPLE OF VACANCIES, UM, CHALLENGES WITH ILLNESS AND, UM, RETIREMENT AND SO FORTH WHERE WE'VE HAD TO UTILIZE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST. SO ARE YOU AMENDING YOUR MOTION THEN? I WOULD STILL LIKE TO AMEND IT TO, UH, HAVE IT COME UP BEFORE US EVERY YEAR. COUNSEL. OKAY. I'LL SECOND THAT. AND, UH, DISCUSSION, RANDY NOT ON, NOT ON THAT MOTION, BUT ON THE, ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. I'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. OH, I APOLOGIZE. [00:45:01] I THOUGHT YOU WERE SOMEBODY, HE SECONDED IT. SO HE KIND OF, YOU KIND OF FOR DISCUSSION THERE A LITTLE BIT. WHEN WAS THE LA 67 500 IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR NOT TO EXCEED. I UNDERSTAND. IF WE DON'T USE THAT, WE'RE NOT GOING THERE. UH, AND I BELIEVE YOU SAID WE USED 6,000 LAST YEAR AND WE'RE AT LIKE 26 NOW. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE USED $67,000 ON THIS CONTRACT? SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TOUGH QUESTION TO ASK OR TO ANSWER BECAUSE, UM, WE ACTUALLY, OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL DALE, UM, AT ONE TIME WORKED FOR BUREAU OF VERITAS AND BACK IN 2005 SIGNED THE CONTRACT WORKING FOR BUREAU OF VERITAS TO WORK WITH ADDISON, UH, WAY BACK WHEN. UM, SO A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY THERE. AND FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME THE TOWN ACTUALLY EMPLOYED A PART-TIME INSPECTOR. UM, WE HAD, I BELIEVE IT WAS 0.3 OF A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE IN THE BUDGET THAT WE, HE CAME IN ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS A COUPLE TIMES A WEEK. UM, AND WE UTILIZED HIM FOR MANY YEARS. UM, AND ACTUALLY THERE WAS ANOTHER EMPLOYEE THAT REPLACED THEM AND WE KIND OF HAD, UM, A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH RETIRED INSPECTORS WHO WOULD COME BACK AND HELP US AND WE COULD CALL THEM AND, AND USE THEM AS A CONTRACT EMPLOYEE. UM, AND WE PAID THEM A MUCH MORE REASONABLE RATE. UNFORTUNATELY, UM, THEY RETIRED FROM THEIR RETIREMENT GIG AND ARE UM, HAVE MOVED ON. AND SO THAT OCCURRED IN 2023. AND SO AT THAT TIME WE HAD TO IDENTIFY ANOTHER, UM, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO FILL THAT VOID. UM, AND THAT'S WHEN THE MOST RECENT CONTRACT WITH BUREAU OF VERITAS CAME FOR BEFORE CONSIDERATION. UM, SO ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE WORKED WITH VERA VERITAS FOR 20 PLUS YEARS. THERE WAS A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL GAP WHERE WE WERE USING OTHER METHODS FOR BACKUP, UM, AND DIDN'T HAVE A CONTRACT. AND THEN OVER THE LAST, SINCE 2023, WE'VE BEEN, UM, HAD THE CURRENT CONTRACT WITH VERITAS AND WE HAVE NOT. UM, THE CLOSEST WE'VE UM, COME TO APPROACH THAT 67 5 IS THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR AT APPROXIMATELY $22,000 SO FAR JUST KIND OF SEEMS LIKE AN ODD NUMBER TO THROW 67 5 OUT THERE IF WE'RE NOT EXPECTING IT. UH, ALONG WITH I'M IN THE SAME BOAT, I'D LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO COME AND IF IT WAS THE 50,000 IT WOULDN'T EVEN COME BEFORE US. SO I'M HAPPY WITH THIS. UH, HOW WOULD WE, IF THE TOWN DECIDED WE WANTED TO FIX THIS PROBLEM OURSELF, WHAT WOULD WE, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT COULD BE TRAINED IN THAT, THAT TO GET A CERTIFICATION AND DO THAT? OR WOULD WE HAVE TO HIRE ANOTHER PERSON IN TOWN? AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN HIRE ANYONE AND PAY SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR $67,500. SO IT, RATHER THAN HIRING ANOTHER PERSON, I THINK THIS IS A MORE COST EFFICIENT WAY OF DOING IT AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT DOING IT EVERY YEAR. YEAH, I THINK IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF BUILDING INSPECTION SO SPECIALIZED OF WHAT THEY DO. AND YOU KNOW, I WOULD STEP BACK TO YOUR POINT, THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE IF SOMEBODY'S GOING THROUGH THE BUILDING PROCESS, THEY'RE NOT DELAYED BECAUSE WE HAVE, AND I I THINK SIX WEEKS IS A GOOD NUM A GOOD AMOUNT TO PUT IN THERE. 'CAUSE IT IS POSSIBLE. WE HAVE TWO FOLKS ON FMLA AT THE SAME TIME, FOLKS ARE OUT AT EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. SO THIS IS A GOOD BACKSTOP FOR THOSE SITUATIONS. BUT I THINK THE SPECIALTY OF BUILDING INSPECTION IS KIND OF THE REASON IT'S DIFFICULT TO CROSS. AND, AND, BUT I'M WITH DARREN ON THIS, THAT THIS, THIS KIND OF DOLLAR FIGURE I THINK DESERVES AN AGENDA ITEM TO AT LEAST BE DISCUSSED IS ALL I'M SAYING. SO THANK YOU MAYOR. SO LESLIE, SO I'M UNDERSTANDING THERE'S NO RETAINER TO USE BUREAU OF VERITAS. NEVER HAS BEEN, NEVER WILL BE. SO, WELL I DON'T WANNA SAY NEVER WILL BE, BUT THERE IS NOT AND THERE'S NOT IN THIS, THERE, THERE HASN'T BEEN IN THE PAST A RETAINER TO, TO RETAIN THEIR SERVICES. SO THE SECOND POINT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS IF WE DON'T SORT OF ANNUALIZE THIS, COULD THEY POTENTIALLY CHANGE THE RATE? IF, IF IN FACT WE DID NEED THEM IN 2027 OR 2028? THAT IS POSSIBLE, YES. SO IN A SENSE, COUNSEL, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A WISER DECISION TO HAVE A BETTER RATE LOCKED IN EVEN IF WE DON'T NEED TO USE THE SERVICE. AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY, DAVID OR LESLIE? YEP. YES. OKAY. YEAH, YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT. I DON'T MIND IT BEING A LINE ITEM OR AN AGENDA ITEM FOR BUDGETING IN AUGUST. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE MOTION IN A SECOND. I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION NOW. FROM WHAT YOU SAID, IF WE KEEP THIS THE WAY IT IS, ARE THEY LOCKED INTO THAT RATE FOR THE FOUR YEARS? YES. AND IF WE GO ANNUAL, WE, WE LOSE THAT. YES. AND WE'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO PAY IT, SO. CORRECT. I JUST THINK THAT SHOULD BE CLEARED UP THAT WE, WE MAY WANNA KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS AND NOT CHANGE IT. OKAY. I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION ON THE RATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CLARIFY THAT AS WELL. UM, SO SINCE WE'RE, WE WOULD BE JUST PAST WHAT WE USE, I'M OKAY WITH THE AUTO RENEW, BUT COMING BEFORE COUNCIL AND I DO LIKE THE MODEL I I I LIKE THAT, UH, IF IT'S $0, UH, USAGE, CAN WE USE MULTIPLE RESOURCES IF WE NEED THEM? IF WE LIKE NEED [00:50:01] TWO INSPECTORS, WE CAN JUST PUT AN ORDER IN FOR TWO INSPECTORS AND THEY SHOW UP AT FOUR O'CLOCK, THEY GENERALLY NEED 24 HOURS NOTICE. UM, SO IF WE, IF WE KNOW THAT THERE'S AN ANTICIPATED ABSENCE OR UM, WE KNOW THERE'S A POSITION VACANCY SO FORTH, SOMEONE OUT ON FMLA, WE CAN ACCOUNT FOR THAT. UM, AND WE TRY TO USE OUR RESOURCES WISELY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STRETCH THIS SIX WEEKS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO, UM, WE DON'T RUN OUT WHEN WE NEED IT. GOTCHA. YEP. WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE BID THIS OUT? UM, I, I DIDN'T GET THAT QUESTION IN. SORRY. I WOULD HAVE, DID YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? YEAH, I, I I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THE LAST TIME IT WAS BID OUT. I KNOW THAT WHEN I STARTED IN NOVEMBER OF 23, UM, THE CONTRACT WAS ALREADY WRITTEN AND I WAS ASKED TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS IT THE SAME AMOUNT IN 23? YES. OKAY. THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION. GOOD ENOUGH THEN. REALLY? YEAH. I I BELIEVE IT WAS, IT WAS BID IN APPROXIMATELY OCTOBER OF 23. WE'VE NOT HAD ANY INCREASE SINCE THEN. THEN THAT'S PROBABLY PRETTY GOOD. YEAH, THEY, THEY AGREED TO CONTINUE AS APPROVED WITH, UH, BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 23. OKAY. RANDY, I, I'M JUST, I'M ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION BEFORE I VOTE AS TO WHAT I'M VOTING ON HERE. WE'VE HAD A MOTION, WE'VE HAD AN AMENDMENT. WE'VE HAD A SECOND. NO, WE ONLY HAD ONE MOTION, BUT THERE'S BEEN NO AMENDMENT. DARREN TRIED TO AMEND IT TO WHERE WOULD COME BEFORE IT. IT'S SAME MOTION HE STARTED WITH. SO OUR MOTION AND OUR SECOND IS FOR THE ANNUAL TO LEAVE IT AS IT IS. NOPE. FOR THE ANNUAL WELL I TO, TO COME TO COUNCIL. SO LET ME TO COME. WELL LEAVE THE AUTORENEW IN THE AGREEMENT, BUT BEFORE THE AUTO RENEW, WE IS EXECUTED 'CAUSE WE CAN EXIT WITHIN THE AUTORENEW PERIOD. THAT'S, THAT COMES TO COUNCIL BEFORE THEN, LIKE IT IS NOW. UM, SO I, I STILL, IF THERE'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MY QUESTION. I THINK, I MEAN, IF THERE'S AN AUDIT RENEW, THERE'D BE NO NEED FOR IT TO COME TO COUNCIL UNLESS WE EXHAUSTED THE CONTRACT. SO I GUESS WE DO NEED SOME CLARITY ON WHAT YOUR MOTION IS. IT WOULD, IT WOULD COME BEFORE COUNCIL UNDER A BUDGET ITEM. 'CAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BUDGETED IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO EXPEND THOSE FUNDS. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME THEN. I, WAIT, WHAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU? WE NEED SOME CLARITY ON THE MOTION. YEAH. SO, UH, JUST, UH, THE ITEM APPROVE THE ITEM AS IS. THEN I THINK YOU WOULD NEED TO RESCIND YOUR MOTION THEN. CORRECT? SORRY. YEAH, I THINK, I THINK AT THIS STAGE WE SHOULD RESCIND THE MOTION IF HE'S GONNA RESEND IT AND THEN RESTATE IT HOW YOU WANT TO SAY. OKAY. I'LL RESCIND THE MOTION AND I WOULD, UH, VOTE TO, UH, APPROVE ITEM FOUR C AS AS WRITTEN IN THE AGENDA. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. THANK YOU, DIANA. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED. THANK YOU, LESLIE. ALRIGHT, [a. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on an Ordinance approving the 2026 Standards of Care for the Town's youth recreation programs.] ITEM FIVE A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE 2026 STANDARDS OF CARE FOR THE TOWN'S YOUTH RECREATION PROGRAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. BRIAN CHAPIN, RECREATION SUPERINTENDENT. EXCITED TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY TO PRESENT AND DISCUSS OUR 2026, UH, YOUTH STANDARDS OF CARE IS RELATED TO OUR YOUTH RECREATION PROGRAMS AT THE AS AND ATHLETIC CLUB FULL PURPOSE. UH, SO WE'RE HERE TO ESTABLISH MINIMUM STANDARDS, UH, RELATIVE TO OUR ELEMENTARY AGE, FIVE TO 13 YEAR OLDS, UH, RECREATION PROGRAMS OPERATED FOR THE TOWN. OUR SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM'S SIX TO 12, SO WE OPERATE WITHIN THOSE PARAMETERS. UH, THIS PROPOSAL, IT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS HUMAN RESOURCE CODE. UH, IT'S ALSO AN ANNUAL, UH, REQUIREMENT. SO, UH, OUR DEPARTMENT'S BEEN BEFORE YOU BEFORE, UH, TO PRESENT THESE, UH, THE SAME STANDARDS, UH, TO GET YOUR APPROVAL. IT ALSO REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, RELATIVE TO THAT APPROVAL PROCESS. AND THEN JUST TO NOTE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA COVER MINIMUM STANDARDS, UH, RELATIVE TODAY, BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PROCESSES AND GUIDELINES WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT THAT EXCEED, UM, THE MINIMUM STANDARDS. A LITTLE BIT OF OVERVIEW. UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE, UH, THE, UH, ADOPTION IS, UH, COMPLETED, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF STAFF MEMBERS THAT TAKE PART IN OUR IMPLEMENTATION. OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, PASSION HAYES, UH, RECREATION SUPERINTENDENT, MYSELF, UH, RECREATION PROGRAM MANAGER, ANNA WEIR, UH, WHO JUST RECENTLY WAS PROMOTED IN THAT POSITION STARTING MONDAY. SO WE'RE EXCITED FOR HER. OUR CHILDREN'S RECREATION LEAD, UH, DAISY GRAY, UH, SHE ALSO SERVES AS OUR PROGRAM COORDINATOR AND OUR MAIN POINT OF CONTACT FOR OUR, UH, SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM AND OUR SEASONAL RECREATIONAL CAMP COUNSELORS WHO LEAD THE DAY-TO-DAY ACTIVATION AND ENGAGEMENT AND SUPERVISION OF OUR CAMP KIDDOS. ALL OF OUR STAFF GO THROUGH, UH, BACKGROUND CHECKS, UM, IS COMPLETED THROUGH TOWN PROCESS SIMILAR TO ANY EMPLOYEE, UH, THAT ONBOARDS WITH THE TOWN OF ADDISON. SO ALL OF OUR, EVEN OUR SEASONAL, UH, CAMP CONCERTS, EVERYONE GOES THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT. LIKE I SAID, WE HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AS PART OF THIS, UH, UM, ADOPTION. AND THEN THE STANDARDS ARE ALSO AVAILABLE AT THE ATHLETIC HUB, UM, FOR ANYONE THAT MAY REQUEST IT. AND WE ALSO [00:55:01] POST 'EM ONLINE ON OUR WEBSITE. A LITTLE BIT OF OVERSIGHT, UM, ON THE PROGRAM. SO WE DO MONTHLY INSPECTIONS, WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KIND OF IN CODE COMPLIANCE FOR ALL OF OUR, UM, STANDARDS. WE ALSO DO VISUAL INSPECTIONS, UH, MULTIPLE TIMES A MONTH. UM, JUST MAKING SURE EVERYTHING'S CHECKED IN ORDER. ALL, ALL THE STUFF THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR FOR OUR CAMP. UM, ANY COMPLAINTS, UM, ARE DIRECTLY HANDLED WITHIN OUR CHILDREN'S RECREATION LEAD, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, PARENT COMPLAINTS, DISCIPLINARY ACTION, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND THEN IF ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO KIND OF ESCALATE, UM, DUE TO SOME OF THOSE SITUATIONS, THAT'D BE HANDLED IN MY OFFICE, UH, FOR FURTHER RESOLUTION. UM, TO COMPLETE THAT, JUST, UH, BASIC ENROLLMENT REQUIREMENTS, WE REQUIRE ALL OF OUR ATTENDEES, UH, REGISTRANTS TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE BASIC INFORMATION, CONTACT INFORMATION, NAME, ADDRESS, PARENTS' PHONE NUMBER WHEN COMPLETING THEIR ENROLLMENT. UH, THEY ALSO AUTHORIZE, UH, WHO CAN PICK UP THE CHILD. UH, SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT REGISTRATION PROCESS. UH, HEALTH HISTORY AS WELL, JUST SO CAMP STAFF ARE AWARE OF ANY HEALTH CONCERNS, ALLERGIES OR SPECIAL NEEDS, UH, WHEN THE KIDS ATTENDING OUR, OUR PROGRAMS. AND THEN JUST LEGAL DOCUMENTATION, SIGNS OF WAIVER, UM, INCLUDING THE RESIDENCY AND ANY GUARDIANSHIP, UM, DOCUMENTATION. SO OUR STAFF QUALIFICATIONS, LIKE I SAID, OUR PROGRAM COORDINATOR, OUR CHILDREN'S PRO, UH, PROGRAM LEAD, UH, MINIMUM IS GONNA BE A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE OF THE TOWN. YEAR ROUND, UH, 21, UM, AGE OR HIGHER. UH, SERVE HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE AND TWO YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. THE INDIVIDUAL WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE, UH, FAR EXCEEDS, UH, THOSE QUALIFICATIONS. WE'RE VERY HAPPY THERE. UH, SAFETY CERTIFICATIONS. ALL OF OUR STAFF GO THROUGH FIRST AID AND CPR, UH, CERTIFICATIONS. UH, SO THEY HAVE ALL THAT. AND THEN OUR SEASONAL CAMP COUNSELORS, UH, WE REQUIRE THEM TO LEAST BE 18 YEARS AND OLDER. UH, YOU KNOW, DISPLAY GOOD JUDGMENT. AND THEY ALSO, LIKE I SAID, GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND CHECK AND DRUG TESTING STANDARD WITH ANY, UH, TOWN ONBOARDING EMPLOYEE, A LITTLE BIT OF OUR PROGRAM CALL OR OPERATIONS. UH, WE OPERATE, UH, MINIMUM 15 PARTICIPANTS TO ONE CAMP COUNSELOR. LIKE I SAID, WE DO EXCEED, UM, THAT, UM, AREA QUITE OFTEN OUR BEHAVIOR EXPECTATIONS ARE WELL COMMUNICATED, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, KIDDOS IF WE NEED TO REDIRECT, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN CHILD OR GROUP OF KIDS, UM, DOCUMENTATION, YOU KNOW, RELATIVE TO ANY KIND OF, UH, BEHAVIOR EXPECTATIONS THAT NEED BE COMMUNICATED TO THE PARENT. AND OUR, UH, PROGRAM, UH, COORDINATOR DOES A TREMENDOUS JOB AT KEEPING THE KIDDOS ENGAGED, UH, FROM ALL THE ACTIVITIES THAT TAKE PLACE INSIDE THE ATHLETIC CLUB AS WELL AS OUTSIDE. I ATTEND MULTIPLE FIELD TRIPS, YOU KNOW, WORK IN ALL DIFFERENT SORTS OF, YOU KNOW, PHYSICAL EMOTIONAL ARTS AND CRAFTS, DIFFERENT TYPES OF ACTIVITIES THERE. AND THEN COMMUNICATION. ALL OF OUR, UM, CAMP COUNSELORS HAVE CELL PHONES AVAILABLE FOR EMERGENCY CONTACTS. WE HAVE ALL OF OUR EMERGENCY CONTACT NUMBERS LISTED IN ALL OF OUR STAFF AREAS. AND THEN ALL OF OUR CAMP COUNSELORS, UM, HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF EMERGENCY CONTACTS FOR ALL OF OUR CAMP KIDDOS IN THE EVENT OF EMERGENCY OR SITUATION THERE. WHEN IT COMES TO OUR FACILITY STANDARDS, SAME THING. WE'RE DOING DAILY INSPECTIONS OF OUR FACILITY AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB. JUST CHECKING FOR SANITATION SAFETY CONCERNS. UH, WE GO THROUGH ANNUAL FIRE INSPECTIONS. WE ALSO CONDUCT, UH, FIRE DRILLS, UM, DURING, UH, THE DURATION OF THE CAMP. UH, OUR FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, UM, WE HAVE, UM, SINGLE USE, UH, RESTROOMS THAT WE REQUIRE THE KIDDOS TO, TO UTILIZE THE RESTROOM. UM, AND THEN ALSO WHEN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, CHANGING TO GO TO THE POOL AND WHATNOT. UH, SO THEY DON'T TAKE PLACE IN ANY OF THE, THE, YOU KNOW, MULTI-USE OR RESTROOMS. BUT, UH, WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, THOSE SINGLE USE SUITES AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB. AND THEN, UM, OUR SANITATION, YOU KNOW, FROM ANY LIGHT, UH, TRASH PICKUP, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE ALL THE, YOU KNOW, HEAT CONTROLS AC WORK IN. SO JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE FACILITY IS UP TO DATE. HEALTH AND SAFETY PROTOCOLS. UH, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ILLNESS PREVENTIONS, MAKING SURE IF THERE, YOU KNOW, A CHILD, YOU KNOW, COMES WITH ANY SORT OF SICKNESS, YOU END UP BEING PROACTIVE AND NOTIFYING THE PARENT THAT THAT CHILD NEEDS TO BE PICKED UP. SO WE DON'T SPREAD ANY GERMS, UM, INSIDE OF OUR CLUB. AND THEN MEDICATION ADMINISTRATION, UH, STAFF, YOU KNOW, WITH THE AUTHORIZATION OF A PARENT, UH, DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADMINISTER EPIPENS AND ASTHMA INHALERS. LIKE I SAID, IT REQUIRES AN AUTHORIZATION FORM, THE PARENT COMPLETES. WE ALSO HAVE AN EMERGENCY, YOU KNOW, RESPONSE, UH, TACTICS OR EMERGENCY ACTION PLANS OR COVERED IN TRAINING AS WELL AS DOCUMENTED THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY, UM, FOR OUR STAFF TO BE AWARE OF KIND OF OUR RESPONSE NATURES THERE, AS WELL AS OUR FIELD TRIPS. AND THEN TRANSPORTATION. UM, ALL OF OUR SENIOR, UH, STAFF MEMBERS, SO THAT'D BE THE FULL-TIME INDIVIDUALS AT THE CLUB ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT OPERATE OUR VEHICLES WHEN WE'RE TRANSPORTING THE KIDS. AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, PERMISSION FORMS THAT THE PARENTS WILL COMPLETE FOR ANY OFFSITE TRAVEL. UM, AND IT'S ALSO WELL EQUIPPED WITH FIRST AID SUPPLIES AND, AND EMERGENCY ACTION. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A OVERVIEW ON OUR 2025 SUMMER CAMP. SO WE DID, UM, EXPAND, UM, PREVIOUSLY IN 2024, UH, WE OPERATED WITH THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF KIDS OF 25. WE EXPANDED IN 2020 OR 25 KIDS. IN 2025, WE EXPANDED TO 40 KIDS. UM, SO WITH THAT, WE ALSO ADDED AN ADDITIONAL HEAD, UH, SEASONAL, UM, CAMP COUNSELOR. UM, AND SO ADDED SOME DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, UM, RATIO ADVANCEMENTS [01:00:01] THERE TO EXCEED THOSE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. UM, AND THEN WE ALSO SPLIT UP OUR AGE GROUPS. SO, UH, WE HAD OPERATED SIX TO 12 AS KIND OF AN OPEN, UM, ENROLLMENT. UH, WE DID SPLIT THEM UP INTO TWO AGE GROUPS, SIX TO NINE AND 10 TO 12 TO KIND OF BETTER, YOU KNOW, ACTIVATE THE KIDS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THE AGE RANGE, UM, SIMILAR TO, YOU KNOW, EACH SIZE AND WHATNOT. AND THEN 2026, UM, FOLLOWING THAT SIMILAR, UM, PATTERNS WILL OPERATE WITH, UH, 40, UM, KIDDOS IN OUR CAMP. SAME THING. UM, AGES SIX TO NINE AND 10 TO 12. AND THEN CONTINUE THAT MOMENTUM FROM 2025, UM, ALLOWS US TO PREPLAN AND WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL WEEK OF TRAINING PLAN FOR THIS UPCOMING SEASON. SO WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT, THAT I WILL OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, BRIAN. AND, UH, AND THIS IS THE SAME PROCESS WE GO THROUGH ABOUT THE SAME TIME EVERY YEAR, RIGHT? YES, SIR. YEAH. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, CHRIS. BRIAN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UH, I'M EXCITED AND HAPPY THAT OUR TOWN DOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I KNOW OUR GIRLS TOOK ADVANTAGE OF IT WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER. UM, IT ALSO OPENS THE DOOR FOR RISK. I, AND I, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD A VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION, BUT I JUST WANNA ASK YOU, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU NEED FROM US TO MAKE YOU HAVE A SMOOTH SUMMER? WHETHER IT'S ADDITIONAL STAFF, EQUIPMENT, ANYTHING? NO, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, LIKE I SAID, I MEAN THE 15 TO ONE STANDARD, THAT'S THE MINIMUM. WE OPERATE VERY EXCEEDED OF THAT. WE HAVE EIGHT SEASONAL CAMP COUNSELORS AS WELL AS THE TWO SUPERVISORS FROM A STAFF, YOU KNOW, POSITION, OUTFIT. YOU KNOW, WE ARE PLENTY EQUIPPED TO OPERATE FOR THOSE 40 KIDDOS. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. AND MARLON, THANKS, MAYOR. UM, AS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, I SPEND QUITE A BIT OF QUALITY TIME IN OUR ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB. WHOA. JUST A LITTLE BIT DUE TO ME. AND, UM, AND SO I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT, UM, IN THAT THE, THE SUMMER CAMP THIS LAST SUMMER WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED AND THE KIDS WERE HAVING A GREAT TIME AND, AND, UH, UH, IT WAS NEAT TO SEE THAT KIND OF ATTENDANCE. AND IT'S GREAT WHEN THEY HAVE THOSE NUMBERS WHERE THEY CAN SPLIT 'EM UP IN THE AGE GROUPS AND, UH, AND, AND SEE ALL THE KIDS PLAYING WITH THEIR BUDDIES AND HAVING A GREAT TIME. AND BOTH THE GAINES BROTHERS WERE THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, DOING THEIR THING. UM, SO THAT, THAT WAS GREAT. AND IT WAS, UH, FROM BEST I COULD TELL IN ALL THE YEARS I'VE, I'VE BEEN AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB, WHICH IS A LOT. I I DON'T REMEMBER THE ATTENDANCE BEING ANYTHING REMOTELY CLOSE TO THAT. SO, UH, I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH LAST YEAR'S SUMMER CAMP, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO, UM, TO THIS YEAR'S. AWESOME, RANDY. GREAT. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, I ECHO ALL OF THIS. THE, THE, THESE PROGRAMS ARE, THEY ONLY MAKE ADDISON BETTER. THEY'RE LOVED, WE GET WONDERFUL ATTENTION. MY QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE THIS, UM, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE WONDERFUL AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE WELL ATTENDED AND EVERYONE LOVES THIS, UNFORTUNATELY RIGHT NOW, THE NEWS IS GOT A LOT OF, WE'RE OVERWHELMED WITH, WITH A TRAGEDY THAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR AT A CAMP. HAVE WE COME IN AND AUDITED ALL OF OUR SAFETY FEATURES? AND I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THAT'S GONNA HAVE, BUT I THINK YOU'RE FAIRLY RECENT ADDITION TO OUR TOWN HERE AND WELCOME AS WELL. UH, WHEN YOU COME IN AND AUDIT BEST PRACTICES AND, UH, KIND OF DO A, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, A A BAD, WHAT IF HA HAVE, HAVE WE LOOKED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE ON FOR SAFETY OF THESE KIDS? THAT IS MY PARAMOUNT CONCERN. AND NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS, IS TO PROTECT THEM, WHETHER THEY'RE ON A FIELD TRIP OR WHETHER THEY'RE IN OUR FACILITY THERE. HAVE YOU RECOGNIZED OR ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCEDURES AND MAKING SURE THEY THEY MEET YOUR, YOUR STANDARD? ABSOLUTELY. LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, SAFETY IS ALWAYS GONNA BE TOP OF MIND FOR ANY PROGRAM, REGARDLESS OF OUR YOUTH. ANY USER AT THE ADDISON LOVE CLUB IS GONNA BE, SAFETY, IS GONNA BE TOP OF MIND. AND SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH OUR EAPS AND OUR EMERGENCY ACTION PLANS AND GOING THROUGH ALL THE GUIDELINES AND MAKING SURE ALL OF OUR EIGHTIES OR STAFF WORKING WITH THROUGH, YOU KNOW, EVACUATION PLANS, YOU KNOW, UH, THE DRILLS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, PERTAIN RELATIVE TO, YOU KNOW, FIRE DRILLS, ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILLS, ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, UM, IS ALWAYS KIND OF TOP OF MIND FOR OUR STAFF. AND, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THE RAMIFICATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CURRENT PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, NO ISSUES FROM KIND OF THE LEADERSHIP THAT'S BEEN DISPLAYED FROM OUR CHILDREN'S PROGRAM LEAD. SHE HAS A GREAT HANDLE ON KIND OF THE ACTIVATION. WE'VE ALSO OUTFITTED SOME OTHER AREAS OF THE CLUB OVER TIME TO, TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL, UM, YOU KNOW, AREAS FOR THE KIDDOS TO BE. AND SO WE'VE NAVIGATED, YOU KNOW, ADDING INTO THOSE PLANS, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THEY'VE BEEN IN ONE LOCATION, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE IN THIS ROOM OR THIS ROOM OR THIS ROOM, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE OUR EAP MEASURES? UM, SO YES, SIR, THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR. DO WE DRILL THOSE? WE DO. OKAY. [01:05:01] OKAY. UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE PERFECT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME, SIR. ONLY ONE, ONE MISTAKE OR ONE BAD THING CAN HAPPEN AND, AND RUIN IT ALL. SO I, I APPLAUD YOU AND PLEASE JUST KEEP IT GOING. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP WITH THAT SAFETY FACTOR, PLEASE GET BACK FOR THAT PODIUM AND ASK US ARE THERE ANY, UM, SPECIAL NEEDS, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS IN ANY OF THESE CAMPS? AND YOU KNOW, ARE THEY SPECIAL NEEDS APPROVED? DO WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT CAN MEET THEIR NEEDS? SHOULD THEY WANT TO COME IN? SURE, ABSOLUTELY. SO, YOU KNOW, IN OUR 2025 SEASON, WE DID SEE SOME INDIVIDUALS AND GOING TO OUR EXPANSION THAT WE INDICATED, YOU KNOW, OUR REACH IS AS EXPANDED AND WE'RE SEEING KIDS OF ALL ABILITIES WANTING TO BE ENTERTAINED IN OUR CAMP. SO WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, IN OUR REGISTRATION PROCESS, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE PARENT INDICATES, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A SPECIAL NEED OR A DISABILITY THAT YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO BE ATTENDED TO THAT WE'RE FULLY AWARE OF THAT. AND WE'VE HAD ATTENDEES IN 2025. WE ANTICIPATE ATTENDEES IN 2026, UM, AND HOW WE ADAPT TO THAT. ALSO, OUR PROGRAM, CURRENT PROGRAM COORDINATOR, UM, ATTENDED, UH, COLLEGE AND SHE'S A THERAPEUTIC RECREATION SPECIALIST. SO SHE SPECIALIZES IN A LOT OF THOSE AREAS AND HAS BROUGHT GREAT, YOU KNOW, KNOWLEDGE AND ADVANCEMENT TO HOW WE CAN ENTERTAIN AND ADVANCE OUR GROWTH FOR ANY KID THAT SIGNS UP IN MADISON. GREAT. SOUNDS LIKE OUR KIDS ARE IN GREAT HANDS. THANK YOU. AND ONE THING TO ECHO TOO, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB IS FORTUNATE IS OUR FIRE STATION IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR. SO THAT IS A, YOU KNOW, A PERK OF, AND YOU SAW THE PRESENTATION THAT, YOU KNOW, CHIEF GAVE EARLIER TODAY AND, YOU KNOW, UM, WE HOPE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO CALL, YOU KNOW, IN HANDS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE IN SAFE HANDS IF, UH, YOU KNOW, AN EMERGENCY ACTION, YOU KNOW WHERE NEEDED PLACE, OUR STAFF WOULD IMPLEMENT THAT PLAN AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY RELY ON OUR TOWN RESOURCES TO AID ASSISTANCE WHERE NEEDED. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. BRIAN. ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU BRIAN. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION. MAYOR, I MOTION TO APPROVE IS THAT I'D GO AND ASK FOR ANOTHER MOTION FROM ONE PERSON. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND AND A SECOND FROM MARLON. THANK YOU CHRIS. UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. ITEM FIVE A IS APPROVED. ALRIGHT, ITEM FIVE [b. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request to amend the permitted use and development standards and development plans for Planned Development, Ordinance No. O16-040, for a 19.3± acre property generally located at the northwest corner of Sojourn Drive and Addison Road, and addresses as 17001 Addison Road, to allow for new and enhanced outdoor sports facilities, including the west grandstand, baseball, and softball facilities and associated access and open space improvements.] B, HOLD IT, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PERMITTED USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT. ORDINANCE NUMBER OH FOUR SIX DASH 0 4 0 FOR A 19.3 ACRE PROPERTY, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF SOLDIER AND DRIVE IN ADDISON ROAD AND ADDRESSES AS 17 0 0 1 ADDISON ROAD TO ALLOW FOR NEW AND ENHANCED OUTDOOR SPORTS FACILITIES, INCLUDING THE WEST GRANDSTAND BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FACILITIES AND ASSOCIATED ACCESS AND OPEN SPACE IMPROVEMENTS. LESLIE, GOOD EVENING, LESLIE. AND I'M DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. UM, THIS REQUEST IS FOR TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY OR TCA, UM, TO EXPAND THEIR FACILITIES AT THEIR EXISTING LOCATION, UM, GENERALLY AT THE, UM, CORNER OF SOJOURN DRIVE IN ADDISON ROAD. UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF TCA. SO THEY, UM, WERE ESTABLISHED IN 1976 UNDER A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UM, IN THEIR ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH WAS R ONE AT THE TIME. UM, IN 2016, TCA DID, UM, PURSUE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND MASTER CONCEPT PLAN APPROVAL, WHICH WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED. UM, AND THAT THROUGH THAT PROCESS HAD ENVISIONED THE LONG-TERM GOALS AND FACILITY UPGRADES FOR TCA IN 2021. THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THAT, UM, TO INCORPORATE PHASE ONE A OF THAT MASTER CONCEPT PLAN. AND THAT WAS FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL BUILDING, WHICH HAS SINCE BEEN CONSTRUCTED. UM, AND THE REQUEST THIS EVENING IS TO, UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE COMPONENTS TO THE REQUEST THIS EVENING, BUT IT'S TO ONCE AGAIN CONTINUE TO EXPAND UPON AND IMPLEMENT THE MASTER CONCEPT PLAN. UM, SO I MENTIONED THERE'S THREE COMPONENTS TO THE REQUEST. THE FIRST IS AN AMENDMENT TO THAT MASTER CONCEPT PLAN, UH, TO UPDATE THAT TO, UM, PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL DETAIL. THE NEXT IS SOME MODIFICATIONS OR AMENDMENTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WITHIN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN THE THIRD IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF PLAN APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS. SO, UM, WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT THE CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENTS ARE FIRST. SO THE FIRST BEING A MODIFICATION TO THE PERMISSIBLE BUILDING AREA. UH, ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, THERE IS A DASHED BLACK LINE SHOWN IN THIS IMAGE HERE. AND WHAT THAT IDENTIFIES IS THAT IS THE AREA WHICH, UM, NEW STRUCTURES COULD BE BUILT. UM, THINK OF IT AS A SETBACK LINE, WHICH IS, UH, MORE RESTRICTIVE [01:10:01] TO PROTECT ADJACENT USES. UM, THERE IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THIS PERMISSIBLE BUILDING LINE AND YOU SEE THAT, UM, PRIMARILY BEHIND THE WEST GRANDSTAND AND THAT THAT AMENDING LINE IS SHOWN IN RED. UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO AN AMENDING LINE AROUND THE BASEBALL FIELD, WHICH IS KIND OF ON THE NORTH OF THE SCREEN. AND THEN A SMALL AREA FOR A NEW SECURITY BOOTH AT THEIR EXISTING ACCESS POINT OFF OF ADDISON ROAD. UM, WHAT THIS PERMISSIBLE BUILDING, UM, MODIFICATION DOES IS IT ALLOWS THE CONSTRUCTION OF A, THE SECURITY BOOTH, WHICH I JUST MENTIONED, UM, A BASEBALL PRACTICE AREA, A SOFTBALL PRACTICE AREA, SOFTBALL DUGOUTS, AND, UM, REPLACEMENT AND A MORE ROBUST BLEACHERS FOR THIS, THE SOFTBALL FIELD. IT ALSO, UM, THIS AMENDMENT ALSO PROVIDES SOME ADDITIONAL DETAIL FOR THE NEW STADIUM AND PRESS BOX, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY AND CONTINUES TO BE WITHIN THAT PERMISSIBLE, UM, BUILDING AREA. SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED, UM, MASTER CONCEPT PLAN, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING. UM, YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDINGS IDENTIFIED IN RED OR A, UM, A MORE, UM, I DUNNO, BRIGHTER COLOR ORANGE, IF YOU WILL. UM, THOSE ARE THE NEW BUILDINGS THAT ARE PROPOSED, UM, WITHIN THE CONCEPT PLAN. THE FUTURE BUILDINGS ARE IN THE KIND OF THE MID-TIER ORANGE AND THEN THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ARE IN THE ALMOST YELLOW COLOR FOR REFERENCE. SO MOVING ON TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD MODIFICATIONS, THERE ARE TWO PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, BOTH FAIRLY MINOR IN NATURE. UM, AND ONE OF THEM IS PRI PRIMARILY JUST CLARITY. SO THE FIRST IS THE MATERIALS REQUIREMENT. THERE IS A REQUEST TO ADD THE SECURITY BOOTH AND THE STADIUM AND PRESS BOX TO, UM, UH, THE EXCEPTION FOR THE 80% MASONRY REQUIREMENT. THE OTHER BUILDINGS I MENTIONED WILL CONTINUE TO EXCEED THAT 80% MASONRY REQUIREMENT. UM, THE, AS YOU'LL SEE LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, THE SECURITY BOOTH IS A PREFABRICATED, UM, SECURITY BOOTH AND HAS MASONRY ELEMENTS BUT DOES NOT ACHIEVE THAT 80%. AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM IS UNDER THE MISCELLANEOUS REQUIREMENTS. UM, AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR CLARITY TO INCLUDE CAGES, UM, FOR BATTING CAGES, UM, TO BE ALLOWED FOR THE ATHLETIC FIELD IMPROVEMENTS AND TO ALSO REFERENCE THE CONCEPT PLAN AS PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED. SO THAT LAST ITEM IS JUST A CLEANUP TO REFERENCE THE, THE CONCEPT PLAN. AND SO THEN MOVING ON TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE NEW STRUCTURE. SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, UM, FOR THE ATHLETIC FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS, UM, THAT GENERALLY WOULD INCLUDE A NEW ACCESS DRIVE, WHICH WILL ALSO SERVE AS A FIRE LANE. IT WILL INCLUDE THE ADDITION OF, UM, NEW PARKING SPACES, WHICH WILL RESULT IN A NET 11 PLUS 11 PARKING SPACES ON SITE, UM, FOR TO SUPPORT THE FACILITIES. UM, THE NEW GRANDSTAND WILL REPLACE GENERALLY THE EXISTING LOCATION AND THERE WILL ALSO BE SOME PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AND SOME ENHANCED LANDSCAPING IN THIS AREA. UM, RIGHT NOW THERE IS A SOFTBALL FIELD THERE. UM, THEIR FACILITIES ARE NOT, UM, I WOULD CALL THEM MORE SEMI-PERMANENT IN NATURE. UM, THIS WOULD ALLOW PERMANENT DUGOUTS TO BE, UM, CONSTRUCTED AS WELL AS MORE ROBUST BLEACHERS FOR THE GUESTS, WHICH WE HAVE, UM, SOME IMAGERY ON LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. SO ONE OF THE MAJOR CHALLENGES WITH THIS REQUEST HAS BEEN, UM, PRIMARILY THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT'S LOCATED ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THIS PROPERTY THAT IMMEDIATELY, UM, IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE TOWN HOMES TO THE WEST. UM, THIS AREA, IF YOU'VE, UM, LOOKED AT IMAGES, WHICH I HAVE HERE, HERE'S SOME STREET VIEW IMAGES, YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS AREA HAS SOME OVERGROWTH. THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE THE VEGETATION HAS DIED AND UM, WHETHER IT HAS NOT GROWN BACK OR THERE'S VOLUNTEER GROWING UP THROUGH IT. UM, POINT BEING IT HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED IN A VERY, UM, GOOD FASHION. UM, AND SO WITH THIS REQUEST WE REALLY PUT A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON FINDING A SOLUTION FOR HOW WE, UM, GET THIS TO A POINT WHICH WILL CONTINUE TO, UM, IMPROVE OVER TIME INSTEAD OF LEAVING THIS PROBLEM FOR THE FUTURE. SO ALONG THE WESTERN TREE LINE, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE 12 OF THE EXISTING 13 TREES. UM, 12 OF THEM ARE NON-PROTECTED AND MOST OF THEM, UM, ARE EITHER DEAD OR IN A, UM, A CONDITION THAT THEY WILL NOT RETURN INTO A HEALTHY CONDITION. AND SO WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF REMOVING THOSE 11, THOSE 12 TREES, EXCUSE ME, THEY WILL [01:15:01] RETAIN ONE EXISTING SIX SIX INCH LIVE OAK TREE THAT IS ON THAT, UM, TREE LINE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE ONE OTHER 20 CPER INCH SIGNIFICANT TREE. AND THAT IS A LONG SOJOURN DRIVE THAT WILL BE REMOVED TO ALLOW THE NEW, UM, FIRE LANE AND UM, VEHICULAR ACCESS OFF OF SOJOURN. UM, PER THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO REPLACE THAT AT A ONE TO ONE AND A HALF CALIBER PER INCH RATIO. AND SO THEY ARE, UM, FULLY MITIGATING ON SITE BY PROVIDING 30 CALIBER INCHES ON SITE. SO GOING BACK TO THAT WEST PROPERTY LINE, UM, OBVIOUSLY THEY DID SOME OR PROPOSING TO DO SOME CLEANUP WITH THIS PLAN AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO GO BACK IN WITH SOME NEW PLANT MATERIAL. UM, THEY REALLY TARGETED AREAS WHERE IT WAS, UM, IN, UM, THE WORST CONDITION AND IN CONDITION WHERE IT WAS NOT GOING TO RETURN. UM, AND SO YOU'LL SEE THROUGHOUT THE THE LINE THEY'VE ADDED A VARIETY OF TREES. THEY'VE ADDED EIGHT NEW TREES ONTO THAT. THEY'RE HIGH RISE LIVE OAKS THAT WILL HAVE A VERY HIGH AND EVENTUALLY WIDER UM, TREE CANOPY. AND THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO, UM, INSTALL NELLY OR STEVEN SHRUBS AT A SEVEN TO EIGHT INCH AT PLANTING SIZE, UM, SHRUB, WHICH WILL PROVIDE SOME IMMEDIATE DENSE SCREENING. AND THEY ARE AN EVERGREEN, SO THEY'LL PROVIDE DENSE SCREENING ALL YEAR ROUND. SO THE ONE DEFICIENCY THAT STAFF DID IDENTIFY, UM, IS THIS BUFFER. UM, THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS DO REQUIRE ONE EVERGREEN SHRUBS WITH ONE SHADE TREE EVERY 35 LINEAR FEET. UM, AS PROPOSED THEY ARE DEFICIENT STILL. UM, THAT TREE LINE WOULD REQUIRE 18 AND AS I MENTIONED, THEY, WITH THE PROPOSED EIGHT PLUS THE EXISTING ONE, THEY ARE STILL DEFICIENT. UM, APPROXIMATELY 10 TREES ON THAT WESTERN UM, TREE LINE. I WILL SAY THAT THAT IS A BETTER THAN THE CURRENT EXISTING CONDITION AS, UM, THE TREES THERE ARE MANY OF THEM ARE DEAD AND IN POOR HEALTH. SO MOVING ON TO SOME OF THE FACADE PLANS, THIS IS THE PROPOSED GRANDSTAND. IT, UM, IS JUST OVER 48 FEET IN HEIGHT. UM, THERE ARE ALUMINUM BLEACHERS, UM, FACING THE FIELD. UM, THERE WILL ALSO BE AN ELEVATOR PROVIDED. ANOTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION IS, AS A PART OF THE PD, WHICH EXISTED WHEN IT WAS ADOPTED IN 2016, WHICH WILL BE INCORPORATED NOW THAT THE GRANDSTAND IS BEING CONSTRUCTED, IS ACTUALLY RELOCATE THE SPEAKERS THAT FACE TOWARDS THE WEST ONTO THE NEW GRANDSTAND. AND THEY'LL BE REORIENTED TO FACE THE EAST NOW. AND SO IT WILL ACTUALLY HELP THE NOISE, UM, ON THE NEIGHBORS 'CAUSE THE SPEAKERS WILL BE FACED AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS WITH THIS, UM, NEW GRANDSTAND. UM, FOR THE, UM, SOFTBALL FIELDS, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF STRUCTURES WHICH I ALREADY MENTIONED. THEY ARE PROPOSING AN OPEN AIR, UM, PRACTICE AREA THAT'S COVERED FROM THE ELEMENTS. UM, THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING THE NEW BLEACHERS, WHICH SEATS APPROXIMATELY 194 INDIVIDUALS. UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING A SHADE SALE OVER THOSE BLEACHERS AS WELL. AND THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING, UM, TWO DUGOUTS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE FIELD. UM, THAT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY, UH, 840 SQUARE FEET AND THEY WILL BE CONSTRUCTED OF MASONRY, UM, WITH A METAL ROOF LOOKING AT THE BASEBALL FIELDS. UM, THIS IS THE PROPOSED PRACTICE AREA. IT'S PARTIALLY ENCLOSED, UM, AND OPEN AIR TOWARDS ONE SIDE. UH, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, CONSTRUCTIVE OF MASONRY WITH A METAL ROOF. AND THEN THIS IS THE SECURITY BOOTH. THIS IS A PREFABRICATED SIX BY EIGHT FOOT SECURITY BOOTH. UM, THAT WOULD BE LOCATED AT THE EXISTING CALL BOX OR ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING CALL BOX AT THE NORTHEAST QUARTER OF THE SITE. UM, TO REVIEW, UM, THIS PROPOSAL, WE DID LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS IS IDENTIFIED AS THE URBAN VILLAGE WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM, WHICH THINGS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR WAS TO PROMOTE AND PEDESTRIAN, UM, CONNECTIVITY AND ENHANCE THE ENVIRONMENT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING TO NOTE IS THE SPECTRUM OF CHANGE, WHICH IS I IS IDENTIFIED AS ENHANCED. UM, WHICH THESE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS WILL ENHANCE THE PROPERTY AND ENHANCE, UM, THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY STAFF PROVIDED PUB PUBLIC NOTICE TO 46 RECIPIENTS WITHIN THE SURROUNDING AREA. WE DO NOT RECEIVE ANY FORMAL RESPONSES TO THAT NOTICE. UM, I WILL NOTE THAT IN ADDITION TO THE FORMAL NOTICE PROVIDED BY STAFF, THE APPLICANT DID COMMUNITY OUTREACH AS WELL. UM, THEY DID HOST A COMMUNITY MEETING ON OCTOBER 1ST OF LAST YEAR. UM, STAFF ATTENDED THAT. IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED. I BELIEVE THERE WAS 21 RESIDENTS IN ATTENDANCE AT THAT MEETING. UM, AND THERE WAS SUBSTANTIAL INPUT [01:20:01] GIVEN AT THAT TIME ACTUALLY HAVE, THIS IS UH, WHAT THEY PRESENTED. THIS IS THE PREVIOUS VERSION, NOT WHAT IS PROPOSED TONIGHT. UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE WAS A PRETTY DRAMATIC SHIFT IN WHAT THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED. THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH THIS PROPOSAL BACK IN OCTOBER OF THE REALIGNMENT OF THE ACCESS DRIVE AND THE ADJACENCY AND THE LACK OF LANDSCAPE SCREENING AND SO FORTH. THEY TOOK THAT FEEDBACK FROM THAT MEETING AND RESULTED IN THE PROPOSAL YOU SEE THIS EVENING. UM, AND IN ADDITION TO THE FORMAL MEETING, THEY DID ALSO SEND OUT A LETTER, UM, TO THOSE SAME, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS, THE, THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD TO SHARE WITH THEM THAT THEY REVERTED SOME OF OR CHANGED THE PLAN BASED UPON THEIR FEEDBACK. SO THEY'VE BEEN, UM, IN COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE NEIGHBORS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION. UM, WE HAVE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND AS MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, IDENTIFY THAT THERE IS THE ONE DEFICIENCY REGARDING THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, UM, ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE. UM, UH, BY APPROXIMATELY 10 PARKING SPACE, OR EXCUSE ME, PARKING SPACES, 10 TREES. ARE YOU HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU LESLIE. AND UM, DARREN, I THINK YOU WERE UP FIRST. SO I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER IF I, IF I COULD BEFORE WE START ASKING QUESTIONS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. SURE. YOU LIVE WITHIN THE, THE, THE RADIUS OF THIS? I DO. SHOULD, SHOULD YOU, SHOULD YOU BE RECUSING YOURSELF FROM THIS OR? I, I, THIS IS JUST A QUESTIONS AN ACCUSATION, BUT YOU KNOW, DAVID, DAVID AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS I DON'T NEED TO, IT'S NOT REALLY A FINANCIAL INTEREST, IT'S JUST A PROXIMITY. COULD IT NOT AFFECT THE VALUES OF YOUR PROPERTY IF SOMEONE DIDN'T LIKE WHAT WAS GOING ON? IT IS JUST A QUESTION. I'M NOT, I'M NOT QUESTIONING YOUR, YOUR, YOUR MOTIVES HERE, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU'VE DISCUSSED IT AND DECIDED TO DO THAT, I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT YOU'VE DISCUSSED THAT. AND ACTUALLY I WAS, I WAS GOING, I WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT. I UNDERSTAND, BUT BEFORE THE QUESTION STARTED, I THOUGHT IF YOU WERE TO RECUSE YOURSELF, IT'D BE PROPER TO DO IT BEFORE QUESTIONS AND PRESENTATION WERE TO BE STARTED. SO CORRECT. YEAH, I WAS ALREADY GOING TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT I WISH YOU, NOW THAT YOU HAVE, I APOLOGIZE FOR PREEMPTING YOU THEN. MM-HMM . SO EVERYTHING'S GOOD LEGALLY WITH CORRECT. THE CONFLICT WOULD ONLY OCCUR IF THERE WAS A SPECIAL ECONOMIC EFFECT ON, IN THIS CASE, THE MAYOR'S PROPERTY. AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I'VE NOT BEEN MADE AWARE OF ONE, BUT I'LL LET YOU SPEAK TO THAT MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK. OKAY. ALRIGHT THEN, UH, I THINK WE HAD, WHO DID WE HAVE DARREN FIRST? OR JUST CURIOUS ON THE, THE TREE DEFICIENCY, WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEHIND THAT? IS THERE ENOUGH NOT ENOUGH ROOM OR IT'S GONNA BLOCK THE SOFTBALLS GOING OVER THE FENCE OR? YEAH, SO THERE'S TWO, UH, I WOULD SAY TWO DIFFERENT CHALLENGES. UM, THE FIRST BEING THAT THERE ARE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT TREE LINE, THERE IS, UM, A SHOT PUT AREA, THERE'S A FORMAL NAME FOR THAT AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A SCOREBOARD. THERE'S ALSO SOME LIGHTING. UM, AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, IT WAS REALLY THE INTERVENTION OF THAT BUFFER, THAT THAT BUFFER IS 700 FEET APPROXIMATELY AND IN TOTAL LENGTH. UM, AND SO THE, TO BRING THAT INTO FULL COMPLIANCE WAS A SIGNIFICANT LIFT FOR THE, THE APPLICANT AND THEY HAVE MET THE TREE, UH, REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENTS OVERALL ON THE SITE. YES. OKAY. UM, OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. UH, CHRIS, I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE OUTREACH, UM, AND THE, AND THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. 'CAUSE AS I WAS READING THROUGH THIS, THAT WAS THE FIRST THING I WAS THINKING NOISE LIGHTS. SO ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT WE'VE SOLVED ALL THOSE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SPEAKERS FACING EAST? I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. ARE WE OKAY WITH WHAT THAT LIGHTING MIGHT LOOK LIKE OR IS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OKAY WITH WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE? UM, I WOULD, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, THE, I WOULD SAY THE UTMOST CONCERN WAS THE, THE NOISE HEADLIGHT GLARE, UM, VEHICLE STACKING VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THAT ACCESS DRIVE THAT WAS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT. THAT WAS THE TOP MOST CONCERN. WE DID HEAR, UM, I'M GONNA SAY RESIDUAL CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE AND LIGHTING. UM, I WILL SAY THAT TCA HAS, UM, COMMITTED TO THAT. THEY DON'T, THEY ALMOST NEVER HAVE ANY EVENTS AFTER 9:00 PM THAT IS JUST NOT WHAT THEIR MM-HMM . ATHLETIC FACILITY OPERATIONS LOOK LIKE. UM, AND GENERALLY ONE TO TWO TIMES A WEEK. UM, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE WOULD NEVER BE ANY CONCERNS [01:25:01] FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FROM THEM. UM, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY. SO THAT CARPOOL LINE, JUST TO BE FAIR, UH, CLEAR, THE CARPOOL LINE, THE FIRE LANE OR WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING IT, THAT'S NOT GOING TO COME ADJACENT TO, I THINK IT'S ADDISON PLACE, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S, THAT WAS A EARLY RENDITION. UM, AND THEY HEARD THE FEEDBACK AND RESPONDED. AND SO IN THIS IMAGE, THE FIRE LANE AND ACCESS DRIVE ACTUALLY NAVIGATES, UM, ALMOST DIRECTLY NORTH. IT NAVIGATES AROUND THE GRANDSTAND AND THEN BACK UP INTO THE PARKING LOT. SO IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SOCCER FIELD AND SOFTBALL FIELD. SO IT MAINTAINS A, A SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE FROM THE NEIGHBORS. OKAY. UH, NOT HAPPY TO SEE US LOSE A 20 INCH CALIBER TREE. THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY AROUND THAT. NO. SO THE PROBLEM IS, IS THERE'S, UH, THE EXISTING SOFTBALL FIELD, OR EXCUSE ME, SOCCER FIELD, UM, WHICH THEY HAVE CONSTRAINTS THERE. BUT THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE IS ALSO A LONG LINE OF VERY MATURE, UM, OAK TREES AS WELL. OKAY. SO I WILL SAY IN THIS IMAGE THEY ACTUALLY, WHERE THEY ARE REMOVING ONE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING BACK IN WITH FOUR. OKAY. SO IN THE NEAR TERM THEY WILL MATURE, HOPEFULLY MATURE OVER TIME AND, AND THRIVE THERE. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. AND THEN, UM, THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION. YOU'RE HIGHLIGHTING THAT THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT LIKE THAT'S SORT OF WHERE YOU STOP. ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THAT WE ENFORCE THAT? UM, UM, NOT NECESSARILY. THAT'S, I WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT IS A CONSIDERATION THAT STAFF IDENTIFIED AS A DEFICIENCY. SO, UM, REALLY STAFF'S ROLE IS TO DO A THOROUGH EVALUATION OF THE APPLICATION AS IT IS, AS IT COMES THROUGH OUR OFFICE. OKAY. UM, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT THERE IS A DEFICIENCY AND UM, FOR COUNSEL TO BE AWARE OF THAT. HAVE YOU TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IT? I MEAN, WOULD THAT BE AN ISSUE IF WE JUST SAID TONIGHT THAT THEY SHOULD KEEP THAT BUFFER OR, UM, ENHANCE THAT BUFFER? 'CAUSE IT MIGHT BLOCK OUT SOUND OR LIGHT? YEAH, SO THIS IS WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS, IS, UM, WHAT STAFF DID TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE TO GET THEM TO MEET THAT. UM, I DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY USE THE TERM COMPROMISE 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT THIS WAS, BUT THIS IS WHAT THEY PROVIDED AS THIS IS THE BEST WE THINK WE CAN DO FOR CONSIDERATION, WHICH IS THE, UM, INTERVENTION OF THE NEW TREES ALONG THAT LINE, UM, WHICH IS BRINGING, BRINGING THEM CLOSER TO COMPLIANCE, BUT IT IS STILL DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARD, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO, UM, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS INTERFERING WITH THE EXISTING ATHLETIC IN, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AND, UH, COST AS WELL. WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON THAT? I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE HAVING THAT BUFFER MIGHT INSULATE MORE OF THAT LIGHT AND MORE OF THAT SOUND. SO I'M LEANING TOWARDS RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO ENFORCE THAT. UM, I THINK IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING TOPIC AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS UNIQUE TO THIS SITE. SO TCA ACTUALLY EXISTED BEFORE THE TOWN HOMES CAME IN. UM, AND WHEN THE, THE TOWN HOMES WERE DEVELOPED, UM, OR TCA, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOKED AT IT IN THE SEVENTIES, UM, UNDER CURRENT STANDARDS, A UH, SIX TO EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THIS WAS BUILT TODAY. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXISTING CONDITIONS, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER, UM, CIRCUMSTANCES TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, AS WELL AS LIMITATIONS TO THEIR EXISTING ATHLETIC FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS. UM, SO I THINK IT'S A CONSIDERATION OF WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT, UM, AND THE EXISTING CONDITION OF THAT LINE, BUT THAT, THAT, UM, REQUIREMENT WILL ALWAYS BE OUT THERE. RIGHT. SO IF IN A YEAR, ONCE THIS THING'S BUILT, IF WE REALIZE WE MAY BE HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH LIGHTER NOISE, WE COULD ALWAYS COME BACK AND ENFORCE THAT. IS THAT RIGHT? NO. SO WHAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY IF, IF APPROVED, IF APPROVED AS PROPOSED? UM, THIS PLAN, THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, THIS IS WHAT WOULD BE ENFORCED AS FAR AS THE COMPLIANCE. ALRIGHT, LET ME, LET ME THINK ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU LES. I'M A VISUAL GUY. IF YOU CAN GO TO SLIDE NINE WHERE YOU HAVE THE PICTURE. THANK YOU. AND I'M ZOOMED IN ON THAT FENCE LINE, SO I'M ASSUMING THAT FENCE IS 10 PLUS YEARS OLD. VEGETATION IS GROWING THROUGH THAT. SO THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT REMEDIATING ALL THAT VEGETATION AND COMING IN AND PUTTING NEW SHRUBS BETWEEN THAT SCOREBOARD AND THAT PARTICULAR FENCE. CORRECT. AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY? FIRST OFF THE TOP SLIDE? THE TOP PICTURE, YEAH. SO WHERE THAT SCOREBOARD, [01:30:01] UM, SO IN THE TOP PHOTO TOP LEFT PHOTO AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE PLAN WHERE YOU SEE EXISTING SHOT PUT THAT TEXT THERE, THAT SCOREBOARD IS IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THAT ABOVE THAT. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT'S LOCATED, SO YES, YOU'RE CORRECT. SO WHERE YOU SEE BEHIND THAT SCOREBOARD, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ALL THAT EXISTING VEGETATION YOU SEE THAT'S KIND OF OVERGROWN, SOME OF IT DEAD. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE ALL OF THAT, UM, JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCOREBOARD ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH WOULD BE DUE NORTH. AND THEY WOULD REPLACE THAT WITH NELLY R STEVENS, WHICH IS A LARGE EVERGREEN SHRUB AS WELL AS THREE HIGH-RISE LIVE OAKS, WHICH IS A MORE VERTICAL GROWING LIVE OAK TREE. NO, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT TO THE, TO THE POINT CHRIS IS TRYING TO MAKE HERE, IF THIS WERE TODAY'S STANDARDS, THEY'D HAVE TO PUT A, YOU SAID NINE FOOT, EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL, A SIX TO EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL. RIGHT. WHICH IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE IN TODAY'S COSTING ANALYSIS. RIGHT. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PLANTS FOR THE MOST PART. WHAT, WHAT I'M EMPATHIZE WITH CHRIS IS I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW A SCHOOL'S GONNA PUT THAT KIND OF MONEY INTO THE ENTIRE, THAT THE ENTIRE SCHEME OF THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING. BUT QUITE HONESTLY A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF PLANTING TO PROTECT THEMSELVES, ONE FROM LURKING EYES, BUT TWO, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS ADJACENT TO IT, THAT WAS BUILT AFTER THEIR SCHOOL WAS BUILT. UM, I'M, I'M GONNA HAVE TO THINK ON THAT AS WELL FOR A MINUTE, BUT I, I CAN'T SEE THAT FENCE WITH STAINING. YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY GO TO PEEL THAT STUFF OUTTA THAT FENCE, THAT FENCE MIGHT NEED TO COME DOWN AND BE REBUILT. IT IS POSSIBLE, YEAH. OR IT POTENTIALLY SPOT REPAIRS. IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON THE CONDITION ONCE ALL THAT GETS CLEARED OUT. YEAH. AND ONCE THAT GETS CLEARED OUT, I, I JUST, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME NOT UNDERSTANDING WE WOULD HOLD THEIR FEET TO COMPLYING WITH OUR STANDARDS ON, ON TREE AND SHRUB SCAPING. YEAH, I THINK, UM, I THINK COST IS STILL, UH, WHILE A MASONRY WALL IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE, I THINK THE, IT IS APPROXIMATELY, I THINK IT'S IN THE 675 FEET RANGE, UM, GIVE OR TAKE. UM, AND SO ENOUGH IT WOULD BE PROBABLY HUNDREDS OF SHRUBS. IT WOULD, I THINK IT WOULD STILL BE QUITE, QUITE EXPENSIVE. AND IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE SCHOOL HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF? I KNOW THERE IS ONE ON ZOOM. OKAY. UH, JENNY PRAZAK, UM, IT'S, HIS NAME IS JEREMY. OH, SORRY. OKAY. YEAH. AND WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GET TO THAT NEXT, ARE WE NOT MAYOR? YEAH. SO THE FENCE BELONGS TO THE HOA OR THE FENCE BELONGS TO TCA, THE, I BELIEVE THE FENCE BELONGS TO TCA. OKAY. YEAH, I'D, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE, THE SCHOOL JUST ABOUT THAT FENCE BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT, I'M NOT A GARDENER HERE, BUT I'VE BEEN AROUND THIS STUFF LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT FENCE HAS TO COME DOWN AND IF THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO COME DOWN, THERE'S NO REASON YOU CANNOT THEN GO IN AND PLANT AHEAD OF TIME TREES TO MEET OUR STANDARDS, TO, TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND PROTECT THE HOMEOWNERS. SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR THEIR OPINION ON THAT VERSUS COSTS. WHY DON'T WE, UH, WHY DON'T WE GET, WE'LL GET TO THE APPLICANT IN AFTER WE DO OUR QUESTIONS THERE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, DARREN, I ALREADY WENT. I'LL LET HIM GO FIRST IF YOU WERE, YOUR LIGHT STILL ON. OH, YOU ALREADY WENT. OKAY. SO, UH, UH, MARLIN, GO AHEAD. YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO, LESLIE, ON THIS SLIDE WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, CAN WE, CAN WE BLOW THAT UP A LITTLE BIT IN THE MIDDLE THERE? I'M JUST, I'M MISSING SOMETHING HERE. I'M NOT GETTING IT RIGHT AND I'M, I'M REALLY FOCUSED ON THE, UH, RIGHT OF THE MIDDLE, THE, THE MIDDLE OF THE SLIDE. THE MAGNIFYING GLASS. YEAH, THERE YOU GO. SO YOU, YOU'VE GOT A SOMEWHAT 700, WOULD YOU SAY, 700 FEET APPROXIMATELY ALONG THAT WESTERN BOUNDARY APPROXIMATELY. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST HALF OF THAT WITH TREE COVERAGE. APPROXIMATELY LESS THAN HALF. RIGHT. 315 FEET IS WHAT I'VE GOT CALCULATED. IF YOU'RE DOING A LIVE OAK EVERY 35, 35 FEET. SO YEAH. BUT THERE'S EIGHT 18 TREES WOULD BE REQUIRED AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ADD OR TO HAVE NINE. SO DO YOU KNOW WHY, WHY WE'VE GOT THIS HUGE, HUGE GAP BETWEEN THE, THE TWO GROUP GROUPS OF TREES? UM, LIKE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING RIGHT NOW, KIND OF BY THE SHOT PUT AREA? YES. YEAH, SO THE, SO THERE'S KIND OF TWO, TWO CONCERNS THERE. THE, OBVIOUSLY THE SHOT PUT AREA, UM, ANY NEW TREES THERE WOULD, WOULD LIKELY LONG-TERM HINDER THEIR, THEIR USE 'CAUSE THE, THE TREE CANOPY WOULD GROW OVER THAT CURRENT IMPROVEMENT. UM, AND THEN AS YOU MOVE A LITTLE BIT SOUTH, THEY'RE JUST IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE SHOT PIT AREA. THERE'S AN EXISTING SIX FOOT LIVE OAK TREE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO RETAIN. UM, IT IS IN GOOD HEALTH THAT IS ONE OF 13 ON THAT TREE LINE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REMAIN 'CAUSE IT ISN'T GOOD OR IT ISN'T, UM, [01:35:01] IS HEALTHY. AND THEN SO THAT TREE IS THERE AND THEN THERE IS ALSO A TREE IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF WHERE THAT, THAT, UM, DISTANCE MARKER IS. OKAY. AND SO THE, THE THE TREE THAT, UM, IT KINDA LOOKS GHOSTED A LITTLE BIT. YES. BUT THAT, IS THAT A LIVE OAK? YES, IT'S A SIX CALIBER. AND SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT, THAT ON THE SHOT PUT ON THE HIGH SCHOOL SHOT PUT, THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE, THE SHOT PUT GETTING LAUNCHED INTO THE NEW TREES. IS THAT, IS THAT, WELL, I MEAN, I'D BE WORRIED THAT THE, IF YOU WORRIED ABOUT THAT NOW I WOULD PUT TREES THERE. SO THE SHOT PUT BLOCKS OF TREES SO THEY DON'T GO OVER IN A WINDWARD LANE. IF, IF, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. IT'S, UM, IF THAT IS A CONCERN, I'M NOT REALLY BUYING INTO THAT. WELL, IT'S A HEIGHT AND A CANOPY. SO THOSE, UH, DEPENDING ON THE SPECIES, BUT THE HIGH-RISE LIVE OAK, YOU'RE GONNA LOOK, YOUR CANOPY DISTANCE IS GONNA BE IN THE BALLPARK OF 30 TO 40 FEET AND CANOPY WIDTH AT MATURE LENGTH. AND YOUR CANOPY DEPTH, OR EXCUSE ME, NOT DEPTH, BUT DISTANCE FROM THE GROUND IS GOING TO BE, YOU COULD TRIM THEM UP, LIMB THEM UP, BUT YOU'RE AT KIND OF A NATURAL GROWTH. YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO LOOK AT THE SIX FOOT, FIVE TO SIX FOOT MARK. UM, AND SO YOU WOULD HAVE QUITE LARGE BRANCHES THAT WOULD ACTUALLY EXTEND OVER THE SHOT PUT AREA. UM, BLOCKING THE USE OF THE SHOT PUT AREA IS THESE NEW LIVE OAKS. WHAT'S A CALIPER ON THAT, ROUGHLY? THE, THE NEW ONES ROUGHLY THEY'RE PLANTING ROUGHLY YES. A MINIMUM OF FOUR CALIPER INCH. A MINIMUM OF FOUR. SO THAT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME TO GROW OUT. YEAH. 40 YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN A, IN A, IN A SITUATION VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO THIS AND I'M, I WOULD NOT WANT THAT SITUATION IF I WERE LIVING ON WINDWARD LANE. I WOULD, I WOULD WANT MORE, MORE LIVE OAKS THERE TO, TO PROVIDE A BUFFER, ESPECIALLY IF IF, UM, SOME OF THAT OTHER, OTHER LANDSCAPING IS COMING OUT. AND I CAN SEE WHY SOME OF THAT OTHER LANDSCAPING WOULD BE COMING OUT. BUT, UH, YEAH, I'M JUST AT A LOSS. WHY, UM, WHY THERE WOULD, WOULD NOT BE, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE HALF OF THE, HALF OF THE 700 FOOT LINE HAS BEAUTIFUL FUTURE TREES THAT ARE GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME TO GROW. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULDN'T, UH, HAVE MORE, MORE THAN JUST, UH, HALF THAT HALF THAT LINE COVERED HOWARD. SO, SO YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT A, A WALL THAT WOULD BE SIX TO EIGHT FEET, RIGHT? IS THAT, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE FENCE IS NOW? WHERE THE CHAIN LINK FENCE IS? IF, IF THIS WERE A NEW PROJECT, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PUT A WALL THERE? CORRECT. IF THIS, IF THIS WAS A NEW, NEW SCHOOL THAT CAME IN AND THERE WAS THE EXISTING RESIDENCES THERE TODAY, UH, YES. OR OR REQUIREMENT, UM, REQUEST A SIX TO EIGHT FOOT TALL MASONRY, SOLID MASONRY WALL AND THAT WALL WOULD BE 700 FEET LONG, APPROXIMATELY. I I SAID I THINK IT'S THE LENGTH OF THIS THAT WE HAVE, WELL IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE ON ANY PERIMETER WALL ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL USE. SO IT WOULD EXTEND THIS ENTIRE WIDTH PLUS AROUND THE NORTH SIDE. W WHEN, WHEN A PROPERTY, AND MAYBE IT'S DIFFERENT FOR A SCHOOL, BUT WHEN A PROPERTY IS WANTING TO RENOVATE, EXPAND, WHATEVER, DON'T WE REQUIRE THEM TO COME UP TO CODE? WOULDN'T, I'M, I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH, AND DAN ALLUDED TO THAT FENCE IS PROBABLY GOING ANYWAY. I'M SURE THE, THE MASONRY WALL WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT THEN THIS TREE ISSUE WITH THE SHOT PUT WOULD PROBABLY GO AWAY 'CAUSE THE NEIGHBORS WOULDN'T HAVE TO SEE THAT. RIGHT. I MEAN IF IT'S, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S EIGHT FEET TALL. I, I'M, I SEE A PROBLEM ALONG THIS STREET TOO, SO I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ANSWER IS. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT WALL WOULD COST BASED ON A WALL WE FIXED IN OAKS NORTH. THAT WOULD BE PRETTY PRICEY. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR WHOLE BUDGET IS. AND IF THAT'S, BUT DO WE NOT REQUIRE THEM TO COME UP TO CODE? THAT'S REALLY MY QUESTION. SO YES AND NO. UM, GENERALLY WITH, UH, IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WE HAVE TWO VERY ESTABLISHED, UM, PROPERTIES UNDER COMPLIANCE, WE ENCOURAGE TO GET AS CLOSE TO COMPLIANCE OR AS POSSIBLE OR BETTER THAN CURRENT CONDITIONS. UM, SOMETIMES THE LIFT TO AND TO ALSO, I GUESS, ADVOCATE FOR THE SCHOOL IN THIS INSTANCE, UM, THEY WERE DEVELOPED FIRST IN THE EARLY MID SEVENTIES AND THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAME IN AFTER THE FACT. UM, AND SO THEY'RE DEALING WITH A CONDITION THAT IS NON, IS LEGAL NONCONFORMING. IT WAS PERMITTED WHEN IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN THE SEVENTIES. AND SO WE'RE ASKING THEM TODAY WOULD BE ASKING 'EM TODAY TO BRING IT UP TO CURRENT CODE. UM, SO SOMETIMES THAT LIFT IS, IS QUITE DRAMATIC WHEN [01:40:01] YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S 50 YEARS OLD O OKAY. WHICH, WHICH IS WHY WE I HAVE, HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT TOO. SO WHAT YEAH. WHICH IS WHY WE ENCOURAGED THE ENHANCEMENT OF THE LANDSCAPING. 'CAUSE WE DID IDENTIFY IT AS, AS A, AN ISSUE. I, I JUST, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS I GUESS, BUT ON ANOTHER PROPERTY WHERE SOMEONE WAS RENOVATING AN OLDER PROPERTY, THE CODE THAT WE HAVE NOW FOR, UH, TREES OR, OR MM-HMM . UM, LANDSCAPING REQUIRED THEM TO PUT A TREE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PARKING LOT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAD TO DO IT OR NOT. IT WAS SOCIAL PORT. DID WE MAKE THEM PUT A TREE THERE OR DID WE LET THEM HAVE SOME KIND OF, I I'M JUST, I'M JUST HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THIS FENCE AND YEAH, I DON'T, I WANNA BE CONSISTENT IF WE TELL SOME MM-HMM . SOME BUSINESS, YOU HAVE TO DO IT AND THEN WE TELL SOMEONE ELSE YOU DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S OKAY. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE COST HERE, BUT I'M CONCERNED AND I'M CONCERNED FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH. UM, I'M NOT SURE, UM, WHAT WHAT EXAMPLE SPECIFICALLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE OFTEN, UM, ENCOURAGE MEETING CODE AND IF NOT, THOSE ARE THINGS WE TAKE INTO, UH, CONSIDERATION. AND ULTIMATELY IF THERE IS A DEFICIENCY VIA ANY SORT OF ZONING ACTION THAT'S, UH, APPROVED, UM, OR NOT BY CITY COUNCIL STAFF CANNOT APPROVE DEFICIENCIES VIA ZONING ACTION ADMINISTRATIVELY. OKAY. SO WE HAD, WE HAD A MEETING, THEY HAD A MEETING, THEY GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK, THEY FIXED IT AND THEN THEY SENT A LETTER. THERE WAS NO SECOND MEETING, IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. BUT NO, NONE OF THE RESIDENTS, 46 PEOPLE, NOBODY COMPLAINED ABOUT THE NEW PLAN. IS IT, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? THAT IS CORRECT. AT THE PLANNING THE RESIDENCE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, THAT OCCURRED LAST WEEK. ONE RESIDENT DID, UM, SHOW UP TO LISTEN, UM, AND THEY DID NOT PROVIDE, UM, ANY COMMENT DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU DARREN. SO, UM, WHEN I WAS WALKING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD LAST WEEK, UH, I DID MEET ONE OF THE RESIDENTS IS QUITE CHATTY AND VOCAL, UH, WAS VERY AWARE OF THIS, UM, DEVELOPMENT. AND SO I WAS REALLY GLAD TO GET HIS INPUT ON IT. AND, UM, HE SAID THAT THE OUTREACH WAS, WAS GOOD AND THAT THE, UH, UH, COMMUNITY SENTIMENT WAS, UH, FAVORABLE TO FOR THIS TO PROCEED. SO THAT MEANS A LOT TO ME. IT'S JUST ONE PERSON. I DO APPRECIATE THE, UH, OUTREACH THAT THE, UH, UM, APPLICANT MADE WITH, WITH, UH, THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEY CHANGED. UM, SO THE, UH, THEY'RE ADDING EXTRA, THE BUSHES, THE BUSHES THAT YOU MENTIONED MM-HMM . YOU SAID SIX TO SEVEN INCHES, IS THAT LIKE IN DIAMETER? UM, SEVEN TO EIGHT. UM, FEET. FEET. THAT'S THE SPREAD OF THE EVERGREEN SHRUB. AND, AND THAT'S IS THAT INITIALLY WHEN THEY'RE PLANTED, THEY'RE THAT BIG MM-HMM . THAT'S AT PLANTING? YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD COVERING. YEAH, THEY WILL PLANT MATURE, VERY MATURE SHRUBS. OKAY. IT'S GONNA BE AN IMPROVEMENT THROUGH THERE FOR SURE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE I'M LOOKING AT THE UPPER PICTURE. THAT'S THE SCOREBOARD. THAT IS ONE OF THE PROHIBITS OF THE TREES. MM-HMM . PUTTING THE TREES IN. SO IF WE'RE TRYING TO BLOCK THEN THAT SCOREBOARD'S GONNA KIND OF BLOCK SOME OF THE SOUND AND SOME OF THE LIGHTS WHERE THE TREES WOULDN'T BE. I WOULD, YEAH, I WOULD THINK THAT WE, WE WOULD, UH, UH, WE WOULD REQUIRE TREES TO BE PUT IN OTHERWISE, UH, EXCEPT FOR AROUND THAT, UH, SCOREBOARD, UH, AND WHERE OTHER TREES WEREN'T AS WELL, LIKE ON THE SHOT PUT AREA THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE TREES TO BE PUT IN THERE. I'D BE A, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THAT, BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT WE COULDN'T PUT 'EM IN, IN THE SCORE SCOREBOARD WOULD BE OKAY WITH ME. SOME MORE TREES, BUT PROBABLY NOT RIGHT AT THE SCOREBOARD. CHRIS, I THINK TCA HAS BEEN A, A GREAT NEIGHBOR. I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THEM DO THE OUTREACH. UM, IT'S A GREAT SCHOOL. I THINK WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE THEM HERE. I DON'T WANNA MAKE THIS TOO DIFFICULT, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO, UM, HAVE THEM MEET CODE AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE FENCE. IF I'M LIVING IN ADDISON PLACE, I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T WANNA LOOK OUT MY WINDOW AND SEE THAT. AND AS, AND AS THEY TEAR OUT THOSE SHRUBS, THAT FENCE IS NOT GONNA LOOK ANY BETTER. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM UP TO CODE AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO MAKES THE FINAL DETERMINATION, BUT I'M LEANING TOWARDS HAVING THAT FENCE REPLACED TOO. I WANTED TO GO BACK IN ON THE, THE FENCE CONVERSATION DOESN'T HAVE TO BE WALL, BUT I, I'M, I'M FINE WITH THE FENCE AGAIN. I'M, I'M NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM INCUR THE COST OF THE FENCE OF A, OF A WALL MASONARY WALL. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM UP THE CODE ON THE SHRUBS AND, UH, YEAH, DEFINITELY A GOOD FENCE, BUT NOT, SAY NOT A MASONRY FENCE. I'M THINKING IF YOU HAVE 'EM A WALL, IF YOU HAVE 'EM PUT UP A WALL, UH, I THINK THE SHRUBS BACK THERE ARE, YOU [01:45:01] KNOW, PRETTY APPEALING FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD STANDPOINT THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT IT'S GONNA BE A BETTER SHRUB LINE WITH A GOOD CHAIN LINK FENCE OR WHATEVER APPROPRIATE FENCE. UM, BECAUSE I WAS KIND OF CONSIDERING THAT IN MY MIND'S EYE AS FAR AS WHAT THIS, WHAT THE BRICK WALL LOOKS LIKE VERSUS THE NICE GREEN SHRUBBERY. UH, SO THE, THE SHRUBS WILL LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO THE SHRUB LINES WE HAVE OUT HERE IN THE PARKING LOT THAT AT MATURE SHAPED, THEY WILL BE A VERY SIMILAR CONSISTENCY IN TERMS OF SIZE AND DENSITY. UH, I CERTAINLY, I THINK THEY WOULD REPAIR THE FENCE. SO, SO I'LL WEIGH IN AND I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS. OBVIOUSLY I HAVE SOME PERSONAL INSIGHT ON THIS. AND, UM, SO, AND, AND ALSO I DO APPRECIATE THE TCA REACHING OUT. THE, THE COMMUNITY MEETING WE HAD WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. THEY INVITED US OVER TO THE SCHOOL AND UM, AND THEY TOOK OUR INPUT. YOU KNOW, WE, WE, FROM THE ORIGINAL DI DIAGRAM YOU SAW WITH THE, UH, THE PERIMETER ROAD GOING AROUND, UH, THEY HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF US AFTER THAT MEETING THAT THAT'S LIKELY NEVER GONNA GET APPROVED. AND, AND SO THEY TOOK THAT AND THEY MADE THE CHANGES AND, AND, UH, VERY APPRECIATED. UM, I HAVE, I DO I, THE PICTURE YOU SAW OF THE SHRUB LINE, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN DOWN THERE AT ALL IN THE LAST, YOU KNOW, THIS MONTH OR SOMETHING, UH, IT LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WIN WINTERTIME AND NOW SUMMERTIME IT REALLY GETS OVERGROWN, UH, AND IT GROWS OVER AND ENDS UP GOING OVER THE STREET. AND, AND I THINK OUR HOA ENDS UP TRIMMING THAT NOW, OR THE TOWN PARK PARKS TEAM ENDS UP TRIMMING THAT. UH, AND WE DON'T REALLY OWN ANY OF THEM, SO THAT'S KIND OF A KIND OF A THING. BUT I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GONNA BE REAL SAD TO SEE THAT ROW OF NOT GREAT, UH, GREENERY GO AWAY AND BE, BE REPLACED WITH SOMETHING GOOD. BUT I DO ALSO HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT, WHAT THAT FENCE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE WHEN ALL THIS TAKEN AWAY, UH, BECAUSE THOSE, THOSE THINGS HAVE JUST BEEN LAYING UP AGAINST THAT FENCE FOR A LONG TIME. SO I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. AND I APPRECIATE COUNSEL, UH, SHARING THAT CONCERN AS WELL. UM, QUESTION I HAD, BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVE ASKED A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS, I APPRECIATE THAT. THE, THE SLIDE WITH THE BASEBALL PRACTICE AREA, IS THAT THE BATTING CAGE? THAT'S, THAT'S SLIDE 13? YES. SO IT WILL BE A MULTI-PURPOSE, UM, PRACTICE AREA. SO THERE IT WILL BE, HAVE BATTING LANES OR FACILITIES IN IT. UM, THEY CAN ALSO UTILIZE THEM FOR PITCHING OR OTHER THINGS WHICH ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO PRACTICE WHEN THE WEATHER, UM, THE, THE ELEMENTS MAYBE DON'T COOPERATE. IS THAT THE LOCATION AT, AT, AT OUT BY THE LEFT FIELD WALL OUT THERE IN THE CORNER OR IS THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE? THIS IS, SO AT THE, IN THIS IMAGE IT'S THE FACILITY YOU SEE AT THE VERY TOP OF, UM, THE, THIS SITE PLAN WHERE IT SAYS BATTING CAGES, WHERE IT SAYS BATTING CAGE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. SO IS THAT, SO IT'S COVERED, BUT IT'S NOT ENCLOSED. IT'S PARTIALLY ENCLOSED. SO IT HAS, ON THE BACKSIDE IT HAS THREE WALLS, AND THEN ON THE FRONT IT'S ALL OPEN, WHICH IS, WHICH IS THE BACK WEST, THE BACK ENCLOSED WALL FACES TOWARDS THE WEST. SO IN THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND IMAGE ON THE SCREEN, THAT IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM APPROXIMATELY NORTH ADDISON PARK. OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT SHOULD HELP BECAUSE THAT THERE'S SOME BATTING CAGES IN THERE THAT'S GOING TO HELP WITH THE SOUND ISSUE ON THAT. CORRECT? YEAH, IT'LL, IT'LL GET, THE NOISE SHOULD ECHO TOWARDS THE EAST. 'CAUSE THAT'S THE ENCLOSED, OR EXCUSE ME, THE, THE OPEN AIR, UM, PORTION IS FACING TOWARDS THE EAST. OKAY. OKAY, GOOD. AND THEN THE, THE BATTING CAGE FOR THE SOFTBALL FIELD IS, THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE THE CURRENT BATTING CAGE, IS THAT RIGHT? UM, THAT IS LOCATED, UM, WHERE YOU SEE THOSE YELLOW, UM, TREES KIND OF AT THE TOP OF THE STADIUM. IT'S IN JUST TO THE LEFT OF THAT. OKAY. YEAH. SO IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT. IT LOOKED LIKE IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE PARK, I GUESS. YEAH. OKAY. UM, YEAH, SO, OKAY. I MEAN, THE, THE QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAVE ASKED ARE, ARE GOOD AND, AND SO WE'LL SEE WHAT A MOTION MIGHT LOOK LIKE. UM, JUST A COMMENT THAT I WOULD MAKE, UM, FOR TCA THAT'S LISTENING, UM, THE, THE, THE PERIMETER FENCE LINE AROUND THE BASEBALL FIELD, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO PAY SOME ATTENTION TO BECAUSE WHENEVER THERE WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I GUESS, WHEN THEY, UH, THEY PUT ARTIFICIAL TURF ON THE BASEBALL FIELD, LOOKS BEAUTIFUL, AND THEN THEY PUT UP A SOLID WALL, A METAL WALL GOING AROUND THAT. SO YOU HAVE THE BASEBALL FIELD WALL ON THE OUTFIELD, AND YOU HAVE ABOUT A 10 ISH FOOT GREEN SPACE. UM, AND THEN THE, THE PREVIOUS OUTFIELD FENCE, WHICH WAS, WHICH IS, UH, CHAIN LINK. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS IT'S OUTTA SIGHT, KIND OF OUTTA SIGHT OUTTA MIND. SO IT TENDS TO GET A LITTLE BIT, UM, KIND OF ROUGH LOOKING SOMETIMES. AND IT ALSO GETS SOME, UH, SOME, UH, LITTER BLOWS UP IN THERE WHEN THEY HAVE THINGS WITH BALLOONS. THAT'S, THE BALLOONS TEND TO LAND BACK IN THERE. [01:50:01] THEY KIND OF STAY THERE FOR A FEW DAYS. AND ALSO ALONG THE, UH, NORTH, NORTH OF THE PARKING LOT THERE KIND OF, UH, IT'S NOT IN THAT PICTURE, BUT THE NORTH END OF THE PARKING LOT, RIGHT AT ADDISON'S, AT ADDISON'S, UH, NORTH ADDISON PARK. UM, YEAH, IT'S REALLY, IT IS AT THE FAR END, KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, OF THAT IMAGE THERE. UH, SAME THING HAPPENS OVER THERE. UH, LITTER FROM THE PARKING LOT BLOWS FROM SOUTH TO NORTH BLOWS UNDER THE FENCE, OR IT BLOWS OVER THE FENCE. SO SOME OF US IN THE, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, THAT WALK US THROUGH THEIR REGULAR DAY, WE'RE PICKING UP CHICK-FIL-A, UH, PACKAGING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND OTHER TRASH AND STUFF. SO I WOULD JUST ASK THEM TO, UH, WORK ON POLICING THOSE AREAS A LITTLE BIT, UH, BETTER GOING FORWARD. UM, BUT WITH THAT, UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT SINCE THEY ARE ON ONLINE HERE? DAN, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER THING RIGHT NOW? NO, I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION. UH, WELL, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING COMING UP, SO NOT YET, BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT WHILE WE HAVE THEM ON HERE? I, I DID. IF I'M CLARIFY IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, LESLIE, YOU WERE MENTIONING THE SCHOOL'S OBJECTION TO KEEPING TO CODE WAS COST, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, I, COST WAS A PART OF IT, BUT IT WAS ALSO THE INTER POTENTIAL INTERFERENCE WITH SOME OF THEIR EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING THERE WAS, THERE'S SOME LIGHTING ELEMENTS, THERE'S SOME SCORE, THERE'S THE SCOREBOARD AND THE SHOT PUT FACILITY. UM, AND I THINK AT THE FAR SOUTH, UM, I THINK THERE MIGHT ALSO, THERE'S SOME ON THE, THE SOCCER FIELD, UM, THERE WAS SOME LIKE NETTING THAT FACES SOJOURN TO AVOID SOCCER BALLS GOING ONTO THE ROAD. SO AT THAT FAR CORNER, THERE MIGHT ALSO BE SOME, SOME CONFLICTS ON THE FAR SOUTH CORNER, SOUTHWEST CORNER. MM-HMM . FOR THE, BUT I, I DON'T WANNA, UH, I BELIEVE THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THAT THAT NETTING EXTENDS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT ANYWAYS, THO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE ON SLIDE NINE, IF I'M LOOKING AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, THERE IS SHRUBBERY AND TREES IN THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER. AM I SEEING THAT CORRECTLY? YEAH. SO IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, YEAH, CORRECT. YOU'RE RIGHT. CORRECT. SO THE NETTING, THE NETTING IS ACTUALLY ON THE, THE, EXCUSE ME, THE, UH, EAST SIDE OF THOSE TWO TREES. SO YEAH, THERE THEY SHOULD HAVE AVAILABILITY THERE AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET. I'M TRYING TO ALLUDE THAT THE FACT THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S, I'M NOT, I'M NOT GOOD AT MEASUREMENT HERE, BUT THERE'S FEET OF ROOM TO PLANT FURTHER NORTH TOWARDS THE SHOP. BUT WITHOUT HINDERING THE SHOP PUTTERS, WITHOUT HINDERING THE SCOREBOARD, WITHOUT HINDERING THE LIGHTS, FILLING THAT GAP THAT MARLON WAS TALKING ABOUT FROM THE NORTH SIDE TO THE SOUTH SIDE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT FIELD, I'D LIKE TO PUSH NOT BASED ON COST, BASED ON HELPING THEM FILL THE GAP IN KEEPING CLOSER TO CODE THAN EIGHT OR NINE TREES OF 18. I, I JUST CAN'T SEE THIS BEING A HUGE ISSUE VERSUS REALLY BRINGING, BROUGHT UP TO CODE TO HOWARD'S POINT WHERE WE'RE NOT ASKING 'EM TO PUT A MASONRY WALL IN. BUT I KNOW TO BRUCE'S POINT THAT I GUARANTEE THOSE SHRUBS LOOK BEAUTIFUL RIGHT NOW IF THEY'RE EDGE, WHETHER IT BE BRUCE'S HOA DOING THIS OR IT BE THE CITY OR THE SCHOOL, I CAN IMAGINE IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT MIGHT JUST NEED TO BE PRUNED. BUT IF THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT RIPPING THAT OUT, THEN THAT'S GONNA BE ON THEM WITH A NEW FENCE POSSIBLY. AND I CAN'T SEE THEM NOT FILLING THAT GAP CLOSER TO OUR CODE FOR ME TO BE COMFORTABLE TO APPROVE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. AND JUST ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE, THE TREES THAT HAVE GROWN IN, THAT GROWN IN, IN THE SUMMERTIME, THAT FILLS IN VERY, IT'S VERY LUSH. BEAUTIFUL IS NOT THE WORD I WOULD USE. IT IS LUSH. 'CAUSE THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF NOT, YOU WOULDN'T PROBABLY CHOOSE THEM FOR YOUR YARD. YEAH. A LOT OF IT'S VOLUNTEER THAT GROWS UP THROUGH THERE. YEAH, YEAH. SOME OF 'EM MAY BE JUST GIANT WEEDS. WE'RE NOT SURE REALLY WHAT'S OVER THERE, BUT THEY'RE BIG. THEY'RE BIG. UH, AND I WILL JUST MAKE A COMMENT THOUGH, THAT TCA IS A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO US. I MEAN, THEY'RE, AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THEM AGREE HERE IN ADDISON. AND, UH, AND THEY'VE BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR. AND THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY, EVEN THE LIGHTS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN, WHEN THEY PUT, WHEN THEY LIT THEIR SOFTBALL FIELD RECENTLY, I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR, THEY PUT IN A REALLY NICE LED LIGHT THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE THINKING IT'S GONNA BE INCREDIBLY BRIGHT, BUT IT'S, IT'S, YOU CAN SEE IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT OBTRUSIVE AT ALL IN MY HOUSE BACKS TWO, ONE OF THOSE LIGHTS STANCHIONS. SO, UH, SO THEY'RE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT. UH, THE HEAD OF SCHOOL, JEFF WILLIAMS, HE'S, HE WAS, HE WAS A GRAD GRADUATE FROM TCA, SO HE'S VERY, UH, INVESTED IN, IN THE TCA COMMUNITY. AND HE LISTENS, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'VE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THE, THE SOUND FROM THE PA SYSTEMS, UH, HE VERY, VERY RESPONSIVE. AND HE, HE TAKES CARE OF THOSE THINGS. SO I APPRECIATE THAT, UH, FROM THE LEADERSHIP AT THE SCHOOL. UH, BUT MARLENE, YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE? YEAH. WELL, IF WE'RE AT THAT POINT, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT, THAT WE'VE SHARED. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAID. IF SOMEBODY HAS QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT IF THEY'RE HERE. ARE THEY HERE, ARE THEY ON, THEY'RE ON ZOOM. THEY'RE ON, EXCUSE ME. THEY'RE ON ZOOM. YES. THE THEY ARE. THE, THEY'RE OKAY. JEREMY, IS THAT [01:55:01] JEREMY? YES. YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR ANY THOUGHTS THEY, THEY CAN SHARE WITH US ABOUT, UH, THE CONCERNS WE'VE SHARED ABOUT THAT, THAT, UH, THAT WESTERN, THAT WESTERN BOUNDARY SPECIFICALLY THE, UH, THE GAP WHERE THERE IT'S, UH, LACKING TREES. ALL RIGHT. UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. UH, AND JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MY NAME'S JEREMY RO, I'M WITH GFF DESIGN. WE ARE THE ARCHITECT FOR TCA. SO, UM, I WILL SPEAK, I GUESS, ON THEIR BEHALF, AND I'LL RELAY SOME OF THE CONCERNS OVER MAINTENANCE, UM, I GUESS FOR RECORD, UM, 30, 30 NOIS WAY DALLAS, TEXAS, UH, FOR AN ADDRESS. BUT, UM, I THINK TO START OFF THE, WE WERE NOT NECESSARILY ANTICIPATING, UM, HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE EXISTING LIVING SCREEN. UM, AND I DON'T WANNA MAKE THAT AS AN EXCUSE, BUT I DON'T THINK OUR LANDSCAPE, UH, ANTICIPATED IT DUE TO THE LOCATION OF THE STANDS BEING SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET AWAY. AND THE FACT THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING LIVING SCREEN, UH, PROVIDING KIND OF THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER. I, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT DOES NOT MEET THE INTENT OF CODE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. UM, WITH LESLIE AND STAFF, WHEN THAT GOT BROUGHT UP, SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE WERE THAT SOME OF THE AREAS WERE NOT, UM, NOT IN GOOD HEALTH. AND SO WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WAS REPLACING SOME OF THOSE AND LEAVING SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT DO AT LEAST PROVIDE GOOD SCREENING. UM, AS FAR AS COST GOES, I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT'S ALREADY, UH, KIND OF, UM, BEING CHALLENGED BY THAT IN TERMS OF IT BEING ABLE TO BE, UM, REALIZED THEY'RE, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY A PRIVATE SCHOOL GOING THROUGH FUNDING. UM, AND, AND THIS ADDED COST, ALONG WITH, WE HAVE SOME UTILITY THINGS RELATED TO THE, UM, THE FIRE LINE AND MAKING THAT A PRIVATE UTILITY THAT WERE KIND OF UNANTICIPATED, UM, JUST IN, IN ADDITION TO JUST GENERAL COST INFLATION. SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY, AGAIN, NOT TO MAKE THAT AN EXCUSE, BUT THERE'S ALREADY A CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE UP AGAINST. AND THEN AGAIN, WITH THE, THE POINTS ALREADY MADE REGARDING THE, UH, HINDRANCE TO SOME OF THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES TOWARDS THE NORTH. AND THEN, UM, AND THEN THE SOUTH AS WELL WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. SO, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY, BUT, UM, I DID MY BEST TO RESPOND TO WHAT I HEARD. THANK YOU, JEREMY. UH, HOWARD, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? WELL, I, I GUESS HE, HE JUST SAID BASICALLY YOU CAN'T DO IT, BUT I WAS TRYING TO COME UP WITH A COMPROMISE. I DON'T KNOW HOW TALL THIS CHAIN LINK FENCE IS. IT'S PROBABLY JUST FOUR FEET. IS THAT RIGHT? OR, UM, THE FENCE IS APPROXIMATELY FIVE FEET IN HEIGHT. FIVE FEET. SO I, I MEAN, IF WE COULDN'T GET THE MASONRY WALL, WHICH I'M SURE IS COST PROHIBITIVE, COULD, I WAS HOPING TO ASK FOR, UH, A WROUGHT IRON FENCE AS OPPOSED TO THE CHAIN LINK. I THINK IT'D BE MORE ATTRACTIVE AND MAYBE WE COULD GET TO SIX FEET THAT WAY AND JUST TAKE THIS OUT. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER, REALLY FOR BOTH SIDES. BUT FOR THE HOMEOWNER SIDE, I DON'T KNOW. BUT HE SAID THIS WASN'T EVEN PART OF IT. 'CAUSE THEY WERE WORKING ON THE GRAND GRANDSTAND AREA, RIGHT. SO THIS, THEY DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE GONNA HAVE TO ADDRESS IT ALL. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT, SO I JUST THOUGHT I'D SUGGEST IT, BUT THANK YOU. THAT KIND OF BEGS THE QUESTION OF WHY ARE WE EVEN LOOKING AT THE TREE LINE IF IT'S NOT PART OF THE SCOPE. I MAYBE I'M JUST NEED TO COME BACK FULL CIRCLE. UM, SO THERE WAS, UH, PRIMARILY TWO DIFFERENT REASONS WHY, UM, STAFF BROUGHT IT INTO THE CONVERSATION. THE FIRST BEING THAT WE'VE HAD KNOWN MAINTENANCE CHALLENGES WITH THAT, THE OVERGROWTH, UM, AND COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS. UM, SO ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF HAVING CODE ENFORCEMENT IN MY DEPARTMENT IS I USUALLY CAN, CAN FORESEE WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS COMING THROUGH OF CHALLENGES WE COULD ADDRESS WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THESE KINDS OF PROPOSALS. UM, SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE FIRST ONE. THE SECOND ONE IS THAT, UM, STAFF ALSO FELT LIKE THE INTENSITY OF THESE FACILITIES BEING THE SOFTBALL AND THE GRANDSTANDS WAS INCREASING CONSIDERABLY. UM, AND NOT ONLY THE, THE ACTUAL HEIGHT, BUT ALSO JUST THE SCALE OF ALL OF THESE FACILITIES AND ALSO WILL LEND THEMSELF TO, UM, MAYBE MORE FREQUENT, I DON'T KNOW, FREQUENT IS THE RIGHT WORD, BUT MORE ROBUST USE. UM, THERE'S FORMALIZING THESE FACILITIES, PARTICULARLY THE SOFTBALL FIELD. UM, SO WITH THAT STAFF ALSO FELT LIKE IT WAS VITAL THAT THOSE INCREASED OR INTENSE INTENSIFIED, UM, IMPROVEMENTS BE PROPERLY SCREENED. UM, ONCE AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THAT, WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS SOME CODE CONCERNS IN SOME AREAS WHERE, UM, AS IN THE, THESE PHOTOS, THESE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN IN EARLY MARCH, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS SOME AREAS WHERE IT'S NOT VERY DENSE. THERE'S NOT MUCH SCREENING THAT EXISTS THAT MAKES SENSE WITH THE INTENSITY AND THE SCALE OF THE USE. THAT IS, IT'S SOMETHING TO BE, TO LOOKED AT. AND IT, IT IS ALSO, UH, PREVENTATIVE PROACTIVE. [02:00:01] YEAH. AND SO, AND ALSO WITH THIS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE WHOLE SITE FROM A MASTER PLAN PROCESS, UM, WE GET INTO ONE OF THOSE, UM, CONVERSATIONS OF WHEN IS IT THE RIGHT TIME? UH, OR WHEN, WHEN SHOULD WE CONSIDER THIS AREA? UM, AND SO ONCE AGAIN, STAFF FELT LIKE IT WAS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT TO ADDRESS, GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO THIS, THIS LINE. I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE OR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? ALRIGHT, MARLON, I'VE GOT A MOTION IF WE'RE READY. WE STILL HAVE A, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND UH, IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME, PLEASE COME FORWARD. ALRIGHT. SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NOW I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. THANK YOU, MAYOR. YEAH, I WOULD, NO, THE MOTION I'M GONNA MAKE IS TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO PROVIDE, UH, THE APPLICANT AND, UH, OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MORE TIME TO, TO LOOK AT WHAT CAN BE DONE TO IMPROVE THIS WESTWARD, THIS WEST BOUNDARY, UM, TO, TO IMPROVE ON THAT AND FULFILL OUR CODE. SO YOUR MOTION IS TO POSTPONE? YES, SIR. OKAY. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. DID YOU HAVE SOME DAVID? YEAH, I, I JUST, I MIGHT, I MIGHT ASK LESLIE TO SPEAK A LITTLE. I KNOW THAT TIME-WISE, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO GET STARTED PRETTY QUICKLY. SO MY COMMENT IS GONNA BE MY QUESTION. I JUST, YEAH, I'LL LET LESLIE SPEAK A LITTLE BIT, BUT MAYBE IF WE COULD HAVE A MOTION THAT SAYS WHAT YOU WANT, WE COULD GET THERE SO THAT THEY CAN STILL HIT A TIMELINE WITHOUT HAVING, WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK. THE SOONEST WOULD BE THE END OF MAY. SO JUST A THOUGHT. BUT LESLIE, THE ONLY REASON I SECONDED IT SO WE COULD HAVE DISCUSSION ON THIS. I MEAN, THAT'S, IF WE, WELL, I'D LIKE TO, I'LL, I'LL CLARIFY. THAT WAS, I WAS JUMPING IN EARLY, BRUCE. UH, I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FIVE B. WE DO HAVE A, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE ALREADY AND A SECOND AND A SECOND. YEAH. ANOTHER DISCUSSION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON IT? I'D LIKE TO, UM, UH, CONSIDER ALTERING THE MOTION, UH, AND GETTING WHAT, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS? WHAT, WHAT WOULD WORK, WHAT, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO HELP THE APPLICANT HERE AND GET MEET OUR OBJECTIVES? WELL, WE'RE KIND OF IN DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW. YEAH, I, BUT I THINK WE ALREADY HAD THAT CONVERSATION. E EITHER WE APPROVE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US OR WE HOLD THEM UP TO THE HIGHER STANDARD, MEANING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING IN THE FENCE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY MORE DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM DAVID WHAT HE WAS GONNA PROPOSE OR, OR JUST, YEAH. OH, I, I CAN GO AHEAD AND, UM, SHARE. SO, UM, WORKING WITH TCA, THEY DID WANT TO, IT WAS VERY, UM, IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO PROGRESS, UM, PRETTY QUICKLY AND STAFF WORK WITH THEM TO GET THEM ON THE AGENDA AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, UM, SO THAT THEY COULD DO AS MUCH CONSTRUCTION WORK OVER THE SUMMER WHILE THE, UM, SCHOOL IS CLOSED DOWN, UM, DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS. AND SO THEY, IT WAS FAIRLY VITAL FOR THEIR CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE TO MAKE THIS MEETING. UM, I CLEARLY DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THE, THE SCHOOL, BUT I CAN EXPRESS THAT THEY EXPRESSED TO STAFF IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THEM, UM, TO PROCEED. UM, DEPENDING UPON HOW, UM, TO CHRIS'S KIND OF COMMENT OR QUESTION. UM, THERE COULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WANTED TO, UH, REQUEST THAT X ADDITIONAL TREES BE ADDED TO THE TREE LINE OR A CONTINUATION AS PROPOSED EXCEPT FOR THE EXISTING FACILITIES. UM, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE THE INTENT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF CAN, UM, ENSURE GETS COMPLETED. UM, AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE THAT WITH OTHER PROJECTS, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO HELP IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE COULD FACILITATE THAT. I, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE, UH, TIMING THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR SURE. AND I WOULDN'T WANNA HOLD IT UP. I MEAN, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF MORE TREES AND, UM, A A BETTER FENCE, A WR IRON FENCE WOULD BE, WOULD BE NICE, UM, OR WHATEVER IS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THAT AREA, BUT AT LEAST A, A NEW FENCE. UH, SO THAT WOULD BE MY, YEAH, I'M NOT SURE THAT A WR IRON FENCE IS A REALLY GOOD FIT FOR THAT. 'CAUSE YOU HAVE ATHLETIC, ATHLETIC ACTIVITIES GOING ON OVER THERE. BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, THINGS YOU GONNA BE THROWN AROUND THAT CAN GO RIGHT THROUGH A WR IRON FENCE. OKAY. SO I THINK IF FAIR ENOUGH, SURE. WHATEVER YOU'RE GONNA DO A FENCE, IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT CAN KEEP ALL THOSE THINGS OUT AN APPROPRIATE FENCE AND MORE TREES, I'D BE GOOD WITH. OKAY. SO THAT'S SEEMS REASONABLY VAGUE. I'M HERE. CAN I JUMP IN? YES, PLEASE. OKAY, THANK YOU. SO LESLIE, YOU'VE LOOKED AT THIS A LOT CLOSER THAN, THAN WE HAVE AS FAR AS THESE, THIS, THIS, THIS AREA WHERE WE'RE MISSING TREES. I GET THE SCOREBOARD THAT, THAT MAKES ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD. BUT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TREES BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE OF WE DIDN'T WANT TO INTERFERE WITH THE SCOREBOARD, HOW WOULD [02:05:01] WE WORD, WORD THIS MOTION WITH A CONDITION TO, TO BUFFER THE, THE WESTERN BUFFER WITH TREES? OTHER THAN THE SCOREBOARD OR, OR DO YOU HAVE SOME SPECIFIC ON THE NUMBER OF LIVE OAK TREE? DO WE HAVE TO BE THAT SPECIFIC? ALL OF THEM LIVE OAKS? WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND? UM, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY THEY WILL BE, UH, OAK TREES . BUT, UH, TO BE CONSISTENT ON THAT BOUNDARY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UM, LANGUAGE THAT'S AS, AS A SHADE TREE. AND WE WILL, UM, CONFIRM A LI AN OAK IS A SHADE TREE AND WE CAN CONFIRM SPECIES. IT COULD BE A DESIGN CONSIDERATION WHERE WE ACTUALLY MAYBE MAKE IT LOOK MORE ATTRACTIVE WITH SOME ARTICULATION OF SPECIES, AS AN EXAMPLE. SO YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL X NUMBER OF SHADE TREES. UM, LOOKING AT IT, SO THE REQUIREMENT IS 18 SHADE TREES WITH, THEY'RE PROPOSING NINE NEW, UH, HIGH-RISE LIVE OAKS. PLUS THERE IS THE EXISTING ONE SIX CALIBER INCH LIVE OAK. UM, SO TO MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARD OF TODAY'S STANDARD WOULD BE THE ADDITION OF EIGHT NEW TREES. UM, SO, UH, A MOTION COULD BE DEPENDING UPON THE, UM, TEMPERATURE OF COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, REQUIRING A MINIMUM OF FIVE NEW ADDITIONAL TREES REQUIRING THE EIGHT, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT, UM, THE DIRECTOR BEING MYSELF AT THIS TIME COULD MODIFY THAT REQUIREMENT SO LONG AS IT DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH EXISTING ATHLETIC IMPROVEMENTS ON THE CONCEPT PLAN. UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, POTENTIALLY IF THEY CAN'T FIT ALL EIGHT, UM, I COULD ADMINISTRATIVELY ALLOW THEM TO GO DOWN TO SEVEN AS AN EXAMPLE, IF THEY CAN'T FIT IT IN. THERE'S SOME EXAMPLES, LESLIE, RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE 22 LIVE OAKS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. THEY'RE ON THAT, ON THAT, THAT WESTERN, WESTERN BOUNDARY. THEY'RE PROPOSING, THEY'RE PROPOSING, UM, SORRY, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. AND THERE IS A ONE EXISTING. SO AS PROPOSED RIGHT NOW, THERE IS 10 TOTAL, NINE NEW ONE EXISTING. OKAY. AND AT ALL THESE TREES THAT WE SEE ON ARE THESE DIFFERENT VARIETY OF TREES. IS THAT WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON THERE? JUST TO, YOU MEAN THE DIFFERENT COLORS ON THIS IMAGE? I'M ON, I'M SORRY, I'M ON SLIDE. UM, NINE R NINE, YOU'RE PROBABLY EIGHT. YEAH, YEAH, THERE. RIGHT THERE. RIGHT THERE. YEAH. SO ALL OF THE, THE, THE NEW TREES, THE PROPOSED TREES ARE, THESE ARE ALL THE SAME SPECIES. THOSE ARE THE HIGH-RISE LIVE OAKS. THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE PROPOSED BOTH ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE AS WELL AS ALONG SOJOURN. UM, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THE ONE EXISTING OAK TREE THAT'S PROPOSED TO REMAIN, THAT'S, UM, KIND OF JUST SOUTHWEST OF THE EXISTING SHOT PUT. AND THAT'S KIND OF GRAYED OUT. AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S AN EXISTING TREE PROPOSED TO REMAIN. OKAY. UM, IF, IF WE MADE A MOTION THAT SAID ALL OF THE TREES ALONG THAT WESTERN BORDER WERE LIVE OAKS AND THEY WERE EVERY 35, 35 FEET SPACING, OTHER THAN THE SCOREBOARD, WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT, UM, WOULD THAT BE OKAY? OKAY. WW WHY, WHY CAN'T WE JUST SAY THAT THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY, UM, MEETS OUR STANDARD OR MEETS OUR REQUIREMENT RATHER THAN GETTING INTO THE TYPE OF TREE AND, AND STAFF FIGURES THAT OUT? UM, YEAH, SO THAT IS AN OPTION. YEAH. SO WE DO HAVE A LIST OF AN APPROVED THREE THREE FROM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER. UM, THE ONLY THING I WOULD TAKE IN CONSIDERATION IS THE EXISTING ATHLETIC FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS, DEPENDING UPON IF THEY'RE, IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNSEL WANTS TO CONSIDER. UM, 'CAUSE IF, FOR EXAMPLE, WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND THEY IDENTIFY THAT THEY WILL BE UNABLE TO MEET THAT, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, THE REQUIREMENT'S 18, BUT THEY CAN ONLY FIT 17 BECAUSE OF THE SHOT PUT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT MODIFICATION OR RELOCATE THE SHOT PUT. AND YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT EXCEPTION TAKE ONE TREE AND PLANT IT, WHETHER NOT WITHOUT, UM, AUTHORIZATION FROM COUNSEL. SO THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE MOTION TOO, IF, IF COUNSEL SO WISHES. OKAY. RANDY, THANK YOU. WHEN ARE THEY, WHEN ARE THEY HOPING TO BREAK GROUND? UM, I DON'T HAVE A EXPLICIT DATE 'CAUSE THEY STILL HAVE TO EXECUTE PERMITS, BUT THEY WERE HOPING TO BREAK GROUND OVER THE SUMMER AND GET A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF UTILITY WORK DONE BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS IN AUGUST. I WOULD THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO BREAK GROUND AS SOON AS THE KIDS LEAVE OUT, IS WHAT I WOULD SUSPECT. [02:10:01] I SUSPECT THAT AS WELL CONSTRUCTION TIME AS THEY POSSIBLY COULD BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS OR YES. OR SEASON STARTS. WHAT, WHAT IS THE CONSTRUCTION TIME, COMPLETION TIME OF THE PROJECT, PARTICULARLY OF THE GRANDSTANDS AT THE FOOTBALL FIELD? UM, I'D HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO, TO JEREMY TO SEE IF HE, AT THIS TIME, THIS JUST LEADS TO MY CONCERN FOR TOO MUCH OF A DELAY ON THIS COUNCIL'S PART. TRYING TO BE SO PERFECT FOR 18 TREES RATHER THAN 17 TREES OR I AGREE. YOU KNOW? YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I, I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THEIR WAY OF GETTING THIS COMPLETED. I WANT THE COUNT THE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM TO GET WHAT'S, WHAT'S APPROPRIATE. THAT'S, THAT'S MY POINT. YEAH. AND I I'M, IS THERE A WAY, BECAUSE WE'VE KIND OF GOT, I'M NOT, NOT GONNA SAY SIDETRACKED BECAUSE IT'S ALL PART OF DEAL, BUT WE'RE CONCENTRATING ON A TREE LINE AND NOT THE PROJECT THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO BUILD AND COMPLETE, BUT IT'S ALL PART OF THE BIGGER PICTURE. OKAY. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO CLEAR THE WAY FOR THE PROJECTS THAT I DON'T THINK ANY OF US HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH? TO, TO LET THEM START THEIR CONSTRUCTION AND GET THEIR, GET THEIR PROJECT GOING ON TIME AND COMPLETED ON TIME AND HAVE SOME KIND OF RECOURSE ON, ON THE PERIMETER BUFFER ZONE BEFORE APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, FINAL THAT'S CO OR SOMETHING. THAT'S WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. I DID. I I WANT THEIR PROJECT TO GET STARTED ON TIME RATHER THAN HAVE A INDEFINITE DELAY. I MEAN, DO WE DELAY FOR SEVEN DAYS AND, AND HAVE COME BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING OR I JUST DON'T WANNA DELAY THIS FOR THREE MONTHS. IS THAT WHAT I'M SAYING? I THINK WE ALREADY FIGURED IT OUT. WE, WE, WE KNOW WHAT MOTION TO MAKE JUST, UH, COMPLY WITH CURRENT LANDSCAPE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS, GIVING STAFF THE APPROVAL TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS WHERE IT INTERFERES WITH EXISTING WITHOUT A WALL. CORRECT. ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THE SCHOOL COME IN AND DO THIS EIGHT FOOT DON'T MASONRY LAW? NOBODY SUGGESTED THAT. NOBODY SUGGESTED THAT. I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT, BUT I'M BRINGING UP CURRENT CODES WE TALKED ABOUT. I THINK, I THINK WE'VE FIGURED IT OUT. OKAY. RIGHT. OKAY. I THINK SO. SO CAN WE YES. CAN I RESCIND MY MOTION, MAYOR? YES YOU CAN. I'M RESCINDING MY MOTION. DO WE NEED TO VERY MUCH WILL WHIT, DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING ELSE? DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS OR CAN I RESEND IT? YOU CAN RESEND IF, UH, I RESCIND MY SECOND. YEAH. DARREN RESCINDS A SECOND, THEN WE'RE CLEAR. OKAY. I'M, AND I'M OPEN TO CHRIS IF HE'S, IF HE'S, IF HE'S GOT A MOTION. WANNA MAKE THE MOTION. CHRIS, DO YOU WANT TO YEAH, I CAN MAKE THE MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MOTION TO, TO APPROVE FIVE B UNDER THE CONDITIONS THAT STAFF HAS THE LENIENCY TO FIGURE OUT THE TREE CONDITIONS AND TYPES. SO WE'RE NOT PICKING TREES AND WE'RE NOT PICKING QUANTITY. THE CHAIN LINK FENCE COULD BE REPLACED. I THINK THEY'RE GONNA FIGURE THAT OUT ON THEIR OWN. IT'S THEIR PROPERTY, BUT THEY'RE GONNA RECOGNIZE WHEN THEY GO TO UPROOT EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE, THEY'RE GONNA ADDRESS THAT ON THEIR OWN. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OR NOT. AND THAT'S ON STAFF'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A FENCE THERE, I GUESS. BUT THAT'S THE MOTION I'M MAKING. I'VE GOT A CLARIFICATION ON THAT MOTION. IS THAT, DO YOU MEAN UP TO CODE OR DO YOU JUST LIKE WHATEVER STAFF CAN, CAN NEGOTIATE FOR LANDSCAPE OR FENCE LANDSCAPING. I'M TRUSTING IN OUR STAFF TO PICK THE LANDSCAPING WHEN IT COMES TO THE CHAIN LINK FENCE. I THINK THE SCHOOL'S RESPONSIBILITY TO BE WITH OUR TOWN STAFF TO BE RESPONSIBLE IN EITHER ONE REPLACING IT OR MAKING SURE THAT THING IS STILL STANDING. WHEN THEY REMEDIATE ALL THAT PLANTING, THEY'LL FIGURE IT OUT, MEET THE STANDARD, IT'LL MEET THE STANDARDS FOR SAFETY. THAT'S THE MOTION I'M MAKING. WHAT'S GONNA STOP US FROM, UM, COMING BACK WITH 10 TREES TOTAL? AGAIN, BECAUSE IN THAT MOTION, BECAUSE IN THAT MOTION HE'S SAYING IT NEEDS TO MEET OUR STANDARD. I DON'T THINK HE SAID THAT, BUT I, I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD ADD TO THE YES. TO, TO MEET, TO MEET OUR CITY'S STANDARD. WITH THE VARI YES. WITH THE VARIANCE. YES. OKAY. LESLIE 16 TREES. WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT'S A CLEAR ENOUGH MOTION? WELL, I, I, I ACTUALLY WANNA, I'LL SECOND, UH, LESLIE'S I THINK IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL OF LESLIE WHO'S GOING TO BE ADMINISTERING OUR ACTION ON THIS TO MAYBE RESTATE WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE MOTION TO BE AND OF COURSE, IN YOUR WORDS, AND LET'S MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT WE ALL AGREE. THANK YOU. OF COURSE. YEAH. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT WE WILL ENFORCE THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO ITS FULL EXTENT, UM, AS, UH, OUTLINED UNDER THE CODE, UM, AND UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND WE WILL MAKE CONSIDERATIONS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS FOR, UM, ANY INTERFERENCE WITH EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ON THE APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN. AND WE ARE APPROVING THEIR RECOMMENDED, AS RECOMMENDED THEIR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE GROUNDS THE REST OF [02:15:01] THE PROJECT. REST OF THE PROJECT. ACTUAL PROJECT. AT THE ACTUAL PROJECT, YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT THAT CLARIFIED AS WELL. YES. ALRIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. DID I HEAR A SECOND DOWN HERE ALSO? YES. FROM CHRIS. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYE. ALRIGHT, ITEM FIVE B IS APPROVED. THANK YOU LESLIE. THANKS EVERYBODY. IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION. ALRIGHT, ITEM SIX [a. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving a professional services agreement with Cobb, Fendley and Associates, Inc. for the Mary Kay Site Redevelopment Impact Study in an amount not to exceed $164,075.00 authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement.] A PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH COBB FINDLEY AND ASSOCIATES, INC. FOR THE MARY KAY SITE REDEVELOPMENT IMPACT STUDY IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $164,075. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. WELL, HELLO, LESLIE. NAME IT LESLIE AND I HAVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. UM, THIS, UH, REQUEST IS BEFORE YOU TO CONSIDER, UM, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO, UM, EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH COBB FINLEY AND ASSOCIATES TO, UM, COMPLETE A, UM, IMPACT STUDY FOR THE MARY KAY SITE. UM, SO A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT, UM, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. SO THIS WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED, UM, IN THE 1980S, INTENDED FOR A SAVINGS AND LOAN HEADQUARTERS. UM, HOWEVER, IT WAS REPOSITIONED LATER TO BE MARY KAY'S HEADQUARTERS. AFTER THAT, UM, PROJECT FELL THROUGH IN THE EARLY 1990S. UM, MARY KAY OPENED IN THAT, UM, EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING, UM, IN 1995. AND THE REMAINDER OF THAT, UH, APPROXIMATELY 33 ACRE CAMPUS, UH, REMAINED, HAS REMAINED AND CONTINUING TO REMAIN VACANT. UM, SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY MARY KAY HAS, UM, USED THAT FACILITY AS THEIR HEADQUARTERS FOR MANY YEARS. UM, RECENTLY, UM, IT HAS COME TO, UM, STAFF'S ATTENTION THAT THE MARY KAY SITE HAS BEEN PUT ON THE MARKET USING CUSHMAN AND WAKEFIELD, UH, WITH THE INTENT TO SELL THAT PROPERTY FOR REDEVELOPMENT. UM, THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THE LARGEST, UH, REDEVELOPMENT, UM, OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THE TOLLWAY, UM, IN PAST OR, UM, ANTICIPATED, UH, FUTURE. SO LOOKING AT THE EXISTING UTILITIES, UM, STAFF IS, UM, SUPPORTIVE OF EXPLORING OUR EXISTING PUBLIC FACILITIES A LITTLE BIT MORE. UM, WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S MINIMAL EXISTING FACILITIES ON SITE. AS I MENTIONED, IT'S LARGELY VACANT WITH THE EXISTING, UM, OFFICE BUILDING PRESENT. UM, IN THE 2017 STORMWATER MASTER PLAN, UH, THIS WAS, THIS SITE WAS EVALUATED FOR PO POTENTIAL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND THERE WAS POTENTIAL CONSIDERATION FOR PARTICIPATION AND DRAINAGE ON THIS SITE, UM, IN THE AMOUNT OF $5.9 MILLION IN 20 $17. UH, ADDITIONALLY, WE ALSO ANTICIPATE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE SITE AND SO FORTH, AS WELL AS ROADWAY, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS TO ALIGN WITH THE MASTER TRAILS PLAN, AT WHICH POINT THE SITE IS DEVELOPED. UM, OBVIOUSLY AS I MENTIONED, THE SITE'S VACANT. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE SITE, UH, BUT WE DO DO NEED TO EVALUATE HOW OUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE CAN SERVE THE SITE, UM, WITH FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. WHAT THIS PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACT ANALYSIS, UH, WOULD DO IS TO INCORPORATE THE, THOSE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS AND COMPLETE AN ANALYSIS TO ENSURE THAT THINGS LIKE OUR STORM WATER OR POTABLE WATER WASTEWATER FRANCHISE UTILITIES AS WELL AS TRAFFIC, UM, CAN SUPPORT POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT. UM, GENERALLY IN LINE WITH WHAT IS ANTICIPATED UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, FOR THE 33 ACRE PROPERTY. UM, THIS PROPOSAL FOR THIS IMPACT ANALYSIS WILL PUT STAFF AS WELL AS THE TOWN AND A BETTER PER POSITION TO, UM, GENERATE THE BEST DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP, UH, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE, AS WELL AS GIVE US AN EARLY ANTICIPATION OF THE POSSIBLE LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION FOR THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS, UM, THE POTENTIAL LEVEL OF INVESTMENT FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE PERSPECTIVE. UM, THIS ALSO PROVIDES A VERY CLEAR BASELINE FOR EVERYONE INTERESTED IN POSSIBLE REDEVELOPMENT AND GIVES THEM A MORE CLEAR INSIGHT AS TO, UM, HOW THEY MAY DEVELOP EARLY ON SO THAT ONCE AGAIN, WE GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE LOOKING AT THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO STAFF RECOMMENDS, UM, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ASSESSMENT. UM, THIS WOULD EVALUATE BOTH THE EXISTING CONDITION AS WELL AS POTENTIAL CAPACITY FOR OUR VARIOUS PUBLIC, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. UM, THIS WOULD BE COMPLETED BY COBB FINLEY AND ASSOCIATES, UM, IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $164,000 AND 70, EXCUSE ME, $164,075. UM, THAT IS A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT. UM, SO WHATEVER SERVICES PROVIDED WOULD BE PAID OUT, UM, NOT NECESSARILY THE FULL AMOUNT. IF THOSE SERVICES ARE NOT UTILIZED, THE UM, ANALYSIS WOULD TAKE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT WEEKS TO COMPLETE, UM, AND BE PROVIDED TO THE TOWN, WHICH THEREFORE WE COULD THEN PROVIDE TO ANY, UM, POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS. [02:20:03] UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. LESLIE, ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION? I'VE GOT A QUESTION. OH, WE GOT LOTS OF QUESTIONS, . UM, CAN WE, CAN WE GO TO THE AGREEMENT, THE EXHIBIT A WHERE IT TALK, IT SHOWS THE LINE ITEMS OF THE COST. PAGE 16, DID YOU SAY PAGE 16, DEAR? YEAH. UM, IT'S THE NEXT PAGE. SO ON ON THIS IT, AND I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE THE FIRST THREE LINE ITEMS ARE ALL GONNA BE FUNDED FROM THE STORM WA UH, THE, THE THE STORMWATER FUND. IS THAT CORRECT? DAVID? WAIT, UTILITY FUNDS, STORM WATER WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE. THEN YOU ALSO HAVE WATER WASTEWATER, SO UTILITY FUNDS FOR THOSE. I WAS THINK. OKAY. AND, AND OBVIOUSLY FRANCHISE UTILITY IMPACT ANALYSIS WOULD BE FUNDED FROM THE UTILITY FUND. CORRECT. ALRIGHT. AND THEN, SO REALLY, UM, THAT THESE LAST TWO ITEMS, WHERE, WHAT FUND WOULD THAT COME FROM? THE GENERAL FUND? THE TRAFFIC IS FROM THE STREETS FUND, I GUESS. I'M NOT SURE STEVEN, ON THE COORDINATION, IF THAT'S SPLIT UP AMONGST THE OTHER FUNDS, IT WOULD BASIC BE SPLIT UP PROPORTIONALLY AMONGST THE OTHER FUNDS. OKAY. I DIDN'T, I'M, I MISSED THE STREETS FUND IN THE WHAT PAGE. OKAY, SO, SO HERE, HERE IS MY QUESTION. WE'VE GOT $50,000 PLUS RELATED TO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT, IMPACT ANALYSIS IF WE DON'T KNOW THE DEVELOPMENT? SO A LOT OF, SO A LOT OF THIS, UM, COST FOR THIS, UH, LINE ITEM IS, UM, GOING TO TAKE CURRENT COUNTS AND ANALYZE CURRENT CONDITION AND THEN, UM, YOU UTILIZE TRIP GENERATION ANTICIPATION TO EXTRAPOLATE THAT INTO WHAT PO POSSIBLE DEMAND IS. SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY THERE IS A LITTLE, UM, MORE COST. AND WE ALSO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM COG FINLEY ON THE, THE CALL AS WELL. OKAY. UM, IF THERE'S NEEDS ANY FURTHER CLARIFICATION, BUT THERE WE HAVE, UM, A PRETTY ROBUST DATA COUNT DATABASE THAT'S IN A DASHBOARD ON OUR WEBSITE. WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT DATA. HOWEVER, FOR IN THIS AREA AROUND THE 33 ACRE SITE, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF INTERSECTIONS, WHICH WE HAD DO NOT HAVE ANY DATA FOR. UM, SO TO SUPPORT THE OTHER DATA WE DO HAVE, UM, WE WILL HAVE TO, UM, GATHER THOSE TRAFFIC COUNTS FOR EXISTING CONDITIONS AND THEN WE WILL RUN THE, THE, IN ORDER TO EXTRAPOLATE THAT USE, UM, TRIP GENERATION AND ANTICIPATED TRIPS FROM THE, UM, ITE MANUAL, THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS, UH, TO IDENTIFY WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THE TRIP GENERATION TO BE WOULD. OKAY. FROM WHAT, FROM WHAT DEVELOPMENT? IT WOULD BE BASED UPON A, UH, PROPOSAL IN LINE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE A VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL USES, OFFICE USE, UH, RETAIL, OTHER, UM, NON-RESIDENTIAL USES. OKAY. SO IN THE, IN THE, IN THE PRESENTATION, I THINK THERE WAS LIKE TWO DIFFERENT, BASICALLY TWO DIFFERENT, LIKE A CONCEPT PLAN. AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE, IT WAS LIKE A CONCEPT PLAN WITH AMER, LIKE THE ONE CONCEPT PLAN WAS LIKE THE MARY KAY BUILDING WOULD GET, JUST GET SCRAPED UP, THINK, AND THEN MM-HMM . AND THEN THERE WOULD BE SOME NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD REPLACE THAT. AND THEN THERE WAS LIKE A, ANOTHER PLAN I THINK THAT, THAT ENVISIONED THAT THE MARY KAY BUILDING WOULD STAY THERE AND, AND, UM, UH, I FORGET THE, THE NAME OF THE OTHER BUILDING WHERE, WHERE AM AM EMILY RESIDES. BUT ANYWAY, I JUST, OH, LIBERTY PLAZA. YEAH. WHAT IS, WHAT IS IT CALLED? THERE'S LIBERTY PLAZA PLAZA TO THE SOUTH. THANK YOU. SO YEAH, I JUST, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, I, IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME WHY, I MEAN, LIKE RIGHT NOW WE'VE JUST GOT A BUNCH OF GREEN SPACE IN, IN THE MARY KAY BUILDING, UM, AND, AND LIBERTY PLAZA. AND SO IT JUST DIDN'T, THAT, THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME WHY WE WOULD, HOW, WHY WE, WE WOULD DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UM, NOT KNOWING, [02:25:02] YOU KNOW, AND SOME, SOME ASPIRATIONAL CONCEPT PLAN. SO THAT, AND IT'S NOT A QUESTION, IT'S A, IT'S JUST, JUST JUST A THOUGHT THAT I HAD. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, SO WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS SAYING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING, THIS, THIS, THIS REPORT, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP THEM. BUT, BUT THEN THIS IS NOT COMING FROM ANY ECONOMIC, THIS IS NOT BEING PAID FOR FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND. SO THAT, THAT'S, UM, WHEN I LOOK AT, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THAT AND THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS ANALYSIS, IT'S JUST KIND OF PUZZLING TO ME. THAT'S ALL I HAD. RANDY. THANK YOU. WHAT, WHILE YOU'RE ON THAT SCREEN, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, I ECHO EVERYTHING I THAT MAKES, THAT BAFFLES ME NOT KNOWING WHAT'S COMING IN. HOW ARE WE GONNA KNOW WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS? COORDINATION MEETINGS AND REPORTS ANOTHER $26,000. SO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THE COORDINATION IS ALMOST HALF OF ALL OF IT. ALL OF THIS FUNDING IS NOT MAKING ANY SENSE TO ME GOING FORWARD WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT IS THERE. I'LL, I'LL GO TO MY MAIN POINTS THAT THIS IS A PRIVATE ENTITY. THIS IS PRIVATE LAND, AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING PUBLIC FUNDING TO GET AN ANALYSIS FOR WHAT SOMEONE COULD DO IN A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO ME. ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU'VE GOT LISTED THERE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT DEVELOPERS COME IN AND DO THAT YOU HAVE LISTED BROKERS, JOBS, YOU HAVE LISTED THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE WILL BE DOING, DOESN'T HAVE, WE CAN STILL HAVE AS MUCH CONTROL OVER THIS PROJECT WITHOUT SPENDING $165,000 OF PUBLIC TAX MONEY ON THIS. UM, THERE ARE WHAT'S CALLED LAND BROKERS THAT THAT'S, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO. AND, AND FOR US TO COME IN WITH A CONSULTANT ON THIS ABSOLUTELY DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. WE HAVE GOT TO START BEING MORE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH THE TAX DOLLAR, WITH AS MANY THINGS AS WE'VE GOT COMING FORWARD. UM, THE OTHER PROBLEM I'VE GOT WITH THIS IS I'VE HEARD ONE, ONE PERSON, ONE FIRM THAT WE'VE EVEN TALKED ABOUT, HAVE WE GOT ANY BIDS ON OTHER, IF WE GO WITH A CONSULTANT, HOW DO WE SELECT THIS CONSULTANT? WAS THERE NO OTHER OPEN BIDS ON THIS FOR, FOR A, A, A AMOUNT THIS HIGH? NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE TO ME. I'M SORRY. SO COLEY WAS SELECTED AS ONE OF OUR PRE-APPROVED, UM, OP, UM, PARTNERS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. SO WE HAVE A PRE-APPROVED LIST, UM, THAT'S BEEN VETTED AS EXPERTS, UM, IN THIS TYPE OF WORK. OKAY. WELL, WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED WITH TO US BEFORE, BEFORE IT CAME HERE TONIGHT TO BE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, NONE OF THIS STUFF WAS MENTIONED. THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC, UH, IMPACT ANALYSIS MADE. THERE WAS NO COORDINATION MEETINGS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT BEING HAD. WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THEN WAS WHAT'S THERE IN THE LAND. WHAT, HOW IS IT GONNA INTERACT WITH OUR UTILITIES? NONE OF THIS, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FOREIGN FROM WHAT WE WERE PRESENTED EARLIER. AND THIS, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THE WORD BIG FISH WAS USED IN, IN OUR CURRENT, IN OUR LAST PRESENTATION THAT BROUGHT SOME PEOPLE AROUND. ANY BIG FISH THAT'S GOING TO DEVELOP THIS LAND IS GOING TO BE INTERESTED IN THIS LAND, WHETHER WE SPEND $165,000 OF TAX MONEY OR NOT. CHRIS, LESLIE. SO TELL ME HOW YOU THINK, UM, THIS WILL, UM, GIVE US AN ADVANTAGE. HOW, HOW DO YOU THINK WE CAN USE THIS TO OUR ADVANTAGE? YEAH, SO, UM, FOR THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, SO AS I MENTIONED, WE DON'T HAVE COUNTS ON EXISTING CONDITIONS, SO IT'S, IT'S EVEN MORE CHALLENGING FOR US TO ANTICIPATE, UM, POTENTIAL CHANGES WHEN WE DON'T EVEN FROM A TOWN PERSPECTIVE, HAVE A BASELINE OF THE CURRENT ACTIVITY THERE. UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE INTERSECTIONS SURROUNDING THE SITE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY TRAFFIC DATA FOR. UM, SO I THINK REGARDLESS OF, OBVIOUSLY IT'S VITAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE, BUT REGARDLESS, IT'S GOOD DATA TO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THOSE ROADWAYS AND HOW THEY'RE OPERATING AND WHAT THEIR CAPACITY IN RELATION TO WHAT THEIR CURRENT CAPACITY IS. UM, NOT JUST FOR THIS SITE, BUT IT MAY BE ANY REDEVELOPMENT, UH, IN THE [02:30:01] SURROUNDING AREAS MM-HMM . SO THE MORE KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE, THE BETTER WE CAN ANTICIPATE CHALLENGES. UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, TO NOTE ABOUT WHAT, UM, THE TOWN'S PURPOSES IN THIS STUDY. SO, UM, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE WHATEVER THE DEVELOPMENT IS IN THIS PARTICULAR, UM, INSTANCE OR BECOMES, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM PUBLIC SERVICES AND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, WE GENERALLY KNOW WHAT IS ON THE SITE, WHICH IS NOT MUCH, BUT WE HAVE TO SERVE THE SITE. UM, SO IT'S WHAT IS COMING TO THE SITE AND ARE WE ABLE TO FACILITATE THE DEMAND OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO COME, UH, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO ANTICIPATE WHAT POTENTIAL CHALLENGES ARE AND OUR LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION, NOT ONLY WITH THE DEVELOPER, BUT ALSO WHAT OUR, UM, LEVEL OF NEED IS FROM A PUBLIC UTILITY PERSPECTIVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU START HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A CIP, UM, AND SO FORTH. SO I THINK THAT IS KIND OF ONE, UM, BUCKET, IF YOU WILL. I THINK THE OTHER BUCKET IS REALLY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE CONTINUING ONGOING. UM, I KNOW IT IS TUESDAY AND WE'VE HAD IN MY OFFICE TWO INQUIRIES ALONE THIS WEEK. UM, WE HAD MULTIPLE LAST WEEK, AND ONCE AGAIN THAT'S IN MY OFFICE. I KNOW WAYNE IS ALSO GETTING THEM AS WELL. MM-HMM . UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT ALL OF THEM ARE VIABLE, BUT THERE IS GENERATING A LOT OF INTEREST FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND ACROSS THE WORLD IN THIS PARTICULAR SITE. SO HOW WOULD A POTENTIAL DEVELOPER, HOW IS THIS AN ADVANTAGE TO A POTENTIAL DEVELOPER? GREAT. SO GREAT QUESTION. SO WHEN A POTENTIAL DEVELOPER IS PUTTING IN A BID ON THIS SITE, THEY ARE PUTTING IN A LOT OF ESTIMATES. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT, UM, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE CAPACITY, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BASELINE IS. AND SO THEY MAY BID A VERY CONSERVATIVE AMOUNT BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LEVEL OF RISK IS. UM, WHEN WE'RE PROVIDING THIS BASELINE AMOUNT AND SAYING, THIS IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN DEFINITIVELY PUT IN A BID AND HAVE MORE CLEAR ESTIMATES GOING INTO IT TO SAY, BASED UPON A STUDY THAT WAS JUST DONE, THIS IS HOW MUCH WE ANTICIPATE NEEDING AND THE RISK FOR ON THE DEVELOPER SIDE IS DIMINISHED. UM, AND THAT CONSERVATIVE, UM, GAP, IF YOU WILL, UM, MAY MAKE MORE SOUGHT AFTER DEVELOPERS MORE COMPETITIVE. OKAY. AND THEN, SO THIS IS 33 ACRES. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA THE LEVEL OF INVESTMENT THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY SEE? IS IT 500 MILLION? IS IT A BILLION? DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT QUESTION? I TAKE A SHOT PLEASE. , I'M GONNA TURN THAT OVER TO WAYNE. I MEAN, WE, WE DID A COUPLE OF ANALYSIS, UH, WELL GIVE US YOUR ID THERE. OH, I'M SORRY. WAYNE EMERSON, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IT'S PRETTY WILD RANGING OVER SOME RECENT ANNOUNCEMENTS WE SAW, WE SAW ANYWHERE BETWEEN $300,000 AN ACRE ALL THE WAY UP TO, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT $2 MILLION AN ACRE. SO IT'S A PRETTY WIDE RANGE ON DEVELOPMENTS ALONG TOLLWAY BASICALLY LOOKED AT THINGS IN PLANO ALL THE WAY UP TO FRISCO. UM, OBVIOUSLY THE DEVELOPMENTS IN FRISCO WERE A LITTLE ON THE, I'M SORRY, IN PLANO WERE A LITTLE LOWER ON THAT SCALE, BUT THEY ALSO DEVELOPED EARLIER AND THE FRISCO DEVELOPMENTS, UH, WERE BASED ON MORE RECENT NUMBERS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS DO THE MATH ON, ON THAT PER ACRE. ALRIGHT. OR I'M SORRY, THAT WAS IN, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE NUMBERS. UH, EXCUSE ME. YOU ASKED FOR TOTAL VALUE. YEAH. UM, YEAH, YOU'RE THOSE SAME DEVELOPMENTS. UM, I, I'D SAY LEGACY WEST IS PRETTY COMPARABLE. IT'S GOT A TAXABLE VALUE OF ABOUT 800 MILLION. IT'S ALMOST THE EXACT, UH, SIZE OF THIS. OKAY. SO $800 MILLION AND WE'RE ARGUING ABOUT 160,000. HERE'S MY THOUGHT. IT IS THE LARGEST SITE THAT'S STILL AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN DALLAS AND PLANO. THIS IS THE BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY WE'RE GONNA HAVE IN OUR GENERATION. AND ADDISON, WE NEED TO TAKE A BIG SWING AND $160,000 IF IT'S GONNA ATTRACT BIGGER OR BETTER, BETTER DEVELOPERS. I THINK IT'S WORTH IT. WE'RE NOT ARGUING ABOUT CHRIS. DAN, GO AHEAD, RANDY. WE'RE NOT ARGUING ABOUT THE VALUE OF THIS. WE ARE, AND, AND, AND THE 800 MILLION, 500 MILLION COME UP WITH A BIG NUMBER. WE'RE, WE'RE ARGUING ON WHO SHOULD PAY FOR THIS AND WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IT IS TO DO THIS. AND IF YOU OWN A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS PIECE OF PROPERTY, $165,000 FOR YOU TO DO IT IS PENANCE TO WHAT? PAYING TAX DOLLARS TO DO IT. THAT IS THE RESPONSE. ALL OF THIS IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE LANDOWNER AND THE BROKERS TO FIGURE THIS OUT. IT IS [02:35:01] NOT THE TAXPAYER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THIS. WELL, THE, THE, THE FACT IS WE ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THIS, IN THIS PROJECT. UH, AND SO THIS IS REALLY, REALLY SMALL, UH, FRACTION OF WHAT THAT $165,000 IS NOT A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND IT IS RELATIVE, RELATIVE TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AS A TOTAL INVESTMENT IN IT. TO ME, THIS IS THE, THE VERY FIRST STEP IN THAT VERY LARGE INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT WE'LL GET A GIGANTIC RETURN ON. AND IF WE SAVE OUR $165,000 AND PUT IT INTO SOMETHING THAT'S TRULY GONNA BE PART OF THE PROJECT, THAT'S ONE THING. BUT DOING SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY REDONE AND NOT NEEDED TO BRING DEVELOPERS IN IS ANOTHER. OKAY. YOU MADE YOUR POINT, DAN. UH, THANK YOU, UH, LESLIE, THANK YOU WAYNE FOR HELPING SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS. SO BACK FROM THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION, AND I THINK I'D MADE THE ARGUMENT WE'RE PUTTING THE, THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE AND THEN I CHANGED MY MIND BECAUSE I PUT MORE, MORE LIGHT INTO THIS. I THINK I USED THE ANALOGY THAT IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S UNDER THE DIRT, UM, IT POTENTIALLY COULD BE A BIG HUGE GEMSTONE OR A DIAMOND AND ALL WE'RE ASKING, OR ALL YOUR, ALL THE TOWN STAFF WAS ASKING IS LET US UNEARTH THE DIAMOND OR THE GEM TO SHOW THESE PRIVATE PARTY BROKERS THAT WANT TO COME IN TO DEVELOP THIS INTO RINGS OR INTO JEWELRY AND, AND LET IT LET IT FLOURISH TO 500, 800 MILLION, WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS, IS TO THE TAX PAYING PART OF THIS. I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M NOT LOOKING TO FRIVOLOUSLY WASTE MONEY ON A, ON A, ON A FACT FINDING MISSION WHERE THERE ARE NO GEMSTONES UNDER THE EARTH. I THINK THAT'S WHY I'M GONNA SUPPORT THIS, THAT WE'RE, WE KNOW THERE'S DIAMONDS UNDER THERE. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO POLISH IT UP A LITTLE BIT TO PRESENT TO THESE PRIVATE BROKERS, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU DAN MARLIN. YEAH, NO, THE ONLY COMMENT I WANT TO MAKE IS, IS ON TOP OF WHAT WE'VE ADDED IS WE ARE GONNA TAKE A BIG SWING AT THIS. NO DOUBT. I DON'T VIEW THIS AS A BIG SWING. I I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO OFFER SOMETHING MONUMENTAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF WISE OR OTHERWISE TO, TO GET, UH, WHAT WE WANT. UM, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO MAYBE A CONCEPT THAT WE'VE SHOWN. SO I, I AGREE WITH RANDY RANDY'S POINT. UM, BUT, UM, UM, WE WILL TAKE A BIG SWING. I JUST DON'T VIEW THIS AS, AS PART OF THAT SWING. OKAY. THANKS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL MOTION TO SECOND, SECOND FROM DAN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? AYE. FOR OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. THAT ITEM IS APPROVED. THANK YOU, LESLIE. THANK YOU. ALL [b. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution authorizing the Town of Addison to apply for the FY 2027 SB224 Catalytic Converter Grant through the Motor Vehicle Crime Prevention Authority to combat catalytic converter theft, local motor vehicle theft, and fraud-related enforcement by renewing and expanding the Town’s LPR program, and to support the addition of one (1) full-time position dedicated to the prevention of catalytic converter theft, local motor vehicle theft and fraud related enforcement.] RIGHT. ITEM, UH, SIX B PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE TOWN OF ADDISON TO APPLY FOR THE FY 2027 SB 2 24 CATALYTIC CONVERTER GRANT THROUGH THE MOTOR VEHICLE CRIME PREVENTION AUTHORITY TO COMBAT CATALYTIC CONVERTER THEFT, LOCAL MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT AND FRAUD RELATED ENFORCEMENT BY RENEWING AND EXPANDING THE TOWN'S LPR PROGRAM. AND TO SUPPORT THE ADDITION OF ONE FULL-TIME POSITION DEDICATED TO THE PREVENTION OF CATALYTIC CONVERTER THEFT, LOCAL MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT, AND FRAUD RELATED ENFORCEMENT. CHIEF, GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CHRIS FRIES, CHIEF OF POLICE. UH, TONIGHT I'M GONNA GO OVER A QUICK PRESENTATION AND HOPEFULLY, UH, GET THE AUTHORIZATION FROM THE TOWN TO APPLY FOR THE M-B-C-P-A. UH, GRANT. I WANNA SAY THAT THE RESOLUTION THAT'S BEFORE DENIED IS MERELY FOR US TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT. IT IS NOT BIND THE TOWN TO ACCEPT FUNDS TO FUND POSITIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS SOLELY FOR US TO DRAFT THE RESOLUTION FOR THE APPLICATION. A RESOLUTION MUST BE ACCOMPANIED WITH THE APPLICATION FOR THIS GRANT. QUICK BACKGROUND ON THE N-B-C-P-A, THE MOTOR VEHICLE PREVENTION AUTHORITY, IT'S A STATEWIDE COOPERATIVE NETWORK COMPOSED OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, INSURANCE INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVES, LOCAL TAX ASSESSORS, AND CONCERNED CITIZENS. THEY WORK TOGETHER TO COMBAT VEHICLE THEFT AND BURGLARY THROUGH ENFORCEMENT PREVENTION, PUBLIC INFORMATION AND EDUCATION INITIATIVES. IN ADDITION, PROVIDING GUIDANCE AND OVERSIGHT, THE M-P-C-P-A AWARDS, FINANCIAL GRANTS TO AGENCIES, ORGANIZATIONS, AND CONCERNED PARTIES TO RAISE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF VEHICLE THEFT, BURGLARY, AND TO IMPLEMENT EDUCATION AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS. BACKGROUND LAST YEAR, THE DEPARTMENT DID APPLY FOR THE M-B-C-P-A GRANT TO UPGRADE ALL OF OUR L-P-L-L-P-R CAMERAS THROUGHOUT TOWN. UM, THE GRANT REQUEST WAS FOR $285,000. THIS IS AN 80 20 GRANT, WHICH MEANS M-B-C-P-A WILL FUND THE PROJECT AT 80%. THE TOWN FUNDS THE REMAINING 20%. WE WERE APPROVED WHAT WE REQUESTED M-B-C-P-A PAID, UM, 207 230 $7,000 OF THAT PROJECT, LEAVING THE TOWN TO SPEND TO, UH, MATCH THE REST OF IT AT $48,000 FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR. THE GRANT REQUEST WE'RE GONNA PUT BEFORE M-V-C-P-A IS TO CONTINUE OUR CURRENT LPR UH, WARE NETWORK, UM, TO ADD ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE AND ANALYTICAL, [02:40:01] UM, CAPABILITIES, AND THEN ALSO THE ADDITION OF A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE, A VEHICLE CRIMES DETECTIVE DEDICATED TO INVESTIGATING VEHICLE CRIMES PREVENTION FRAUD, CATALY CONVERTER THEFTS. AGAIN, THIS RESOLUTION DOES NOT BIND THE TOWN TO ADD THAT VEHICLE CRUMBS DETECTIVE POSITION. UM, IF N-B-C-P-A DOES AWARD THE TOWN, THIS GRANT, THAT POSITION WILL COME TO THE COUNCIL DURING A NORMAL BUDGET PROCESS. WE'LL FIND OUT JULY 24TH WHETHER WHAT PART OF THIS GRANT THE TOWN HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR RIGHT IN TIME FOR OUR NORMAL BUDGET PROCESS. SO AGAIN, I WANNA REITERATE THAT THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT IS MERELY FOR US TO APPLY FOR THE FUNDS. IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE WILL TAKE THE AWARDED FUNDS OR THERE'LL BE AWARD. WE'LL BE AWARDED THE FUNDS FROM THE M-V-C-P-A. IT'S STILL A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, OR WE'RE BEING COMPETITIVE WITH MULTIPLE OTHER ENTITIES AS WELL. THE RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT IS THAT THE COUNCIL DOES APPROVE THE, UH, RESOLUTION FOR US APPLYING FOR THE GRANT. AND THEN AGAIN, BASED ON THOSE AWARDED FUNDS, WE WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR ANY ACTION TAKEN WITH THOSE GRANT FUNDS. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CHIEF. ANY QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT ONE QUICK ONE. CAN I GO TO CHRIS FIRST? YES. JUST LIKE CAME ON A LITTLE FIRST A LITTLE FASTER. SO JUST REALLY QUICK, DO WE SEE A LOT OF THIS AND THEN DOES IT HAPPEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS OR IN THE RETAIL AREAS? DO WE SEE A, A LOT OF VEHICLE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS STEALING? YEAH, SO, UM, IF CALL BACK TO THE LAST TWO ANNUAL REPORTS WE'VE DONE, VEHICLE THEFTS HAS BEEN OUR LARGEST PROPERTY CRIME THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO TACKLE. WE'VE MADE GREAT STRIDES IN REDUCING THAT WITH THE HELP OF OUR LPR TECHNOLOGY. UM, VEHICLE CRIME IS A HUGE ISSUE ACROSS ALL OF NORTH TEXAS. UM, LOOK AT AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE LARGE PARKING LOTS, LONG CAR, LARGE CONGREGATIONS, VEHICLES, IT'S CRIMES OF OPPORTUNITY. UM, SO THE N-B-C-P-A IS REALLY, REALLY, UM, IMPERATIVE IN HELPING NOT ONLY US, BUT MULTIPLE AGENCIES ADDRESS THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU. CHIEF. UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT ONE OF THOSE RECAPS YOU HAD DONE, WASN'T THERE A BIG RING THAT WE UNCOVERED AND CAN YOU SHED A LITTLE LIGHT ON THAT FOR THE PUBLIC THAT'S HOME WATCHING THIS TO REFRESH THEM? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. UM, SO THERE WAS A MASSIVE, UH, CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE THAT WAS, UM, TARGETING, UM, HIGH VALUED VEHICLES IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA. SO OUR DETECTIVES, ALONG WITH OTHER TASK FORCE DETECTIVES FROM DALLAS, UM, SOME FEDERAL PARTNERS, THEY WERE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER, UM, USING A LOT OF LPR TECHNOLOGY AND UNCOVER AND IDENTIFY THOSE SUSPECTS. UM, AND THERE WAS A MASSIVE, UM, BUSTING OF THAT, THAT ORGANIZATIONAL, UH, CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR REFRESHING. APPRECIATE IT, RANDY. THANK YOU. FOLLOW UP ON CHRIS'S QUESTION, BUT I'LL BE, I'LL BE MORE DIRECT. HOW MANY CATALYTIC CONVERTERS WERE STOLEN IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON? UH, THIS YEAR WE HAVE THREE. SO CATALYTIC CONVERTERS ARE ALSO, WHENEVER YOU STOLE AN ENTIRE VEHICLE, THE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS BEING STOLEN AS WELL. THAT'S HOW M-V-C-P-A VIEWS THOSE. OKAY. SO, SO VEHICLE THEFT IS ALSO A CATALYTIC CONVERTER THEFT. HOW MANY VEHICLES DID WE HAVE STOLEN? UH, THIS, IT WAS THIS PAST YEAR. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER. I THINK ABOUT 150, I BELIEVE. I CAN GET THOSE EXACT NUMBERS FOR YOU. SO SOME OF THOSE VEHICLES ARE ACTUALLY STOLEN JUST FOR THEIR CATALYTIC CONVERTER, UH, SOME VEHICLES, YES. AND SO WE'VE ACTUALLY STARTED TO SEE AN UPTICK IN CATALYTIC CONVERTER. THIS JUST BECAUSE OF THE PRICE OF PRECIOUS METALS. UM, THE STATE LEGISLATURE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION MAKING THE POSSESSION OF A CATALYTIC CONVERTER WITHOUT PROPER DOCUMENTATION, A STATE JAIL FELONY. SO THAT'S KIND OF HELPED CURB THAT. UM, BUT WE ARE STARTING TO SEE A SLIGHT UPTICK AROUND THE REGION FOR CATALYTIC CONVERTERS IN PARTICULAR, BUT ALSO VEHICLE THEFT IS A BIG DRIVING FACTOR OF THE SPRINT AS WELL. UM, TRYING TO GET EDUCATION ON THAT AND THEN REALLY ADDRESSING THE VEHICLE THEFTS ALONG AROUND NORTH TEXAS. OKAY. IT, I MEAN, I'VE SEEN REPORTS AND, AND, AND WATCH THINGS ON CATALYTIC CONVERTER THEFT, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 32ND TO A ONE MINUTE THEFT. WOULD THEY GET UNDER THE CARS THAT THEY CAN STEAL AN ENTIRE PARKING LOT WORTH OF CATALYTIC CONVERTERS IN 20 MINUTES? I MEAN, IT, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY AMAZING THE WAY THEY DO THAT. UH, SO STEALING AN ENTIRE CAR JUST TO TRY TO STEAL A CATALYTIC CONVERTER LATER SEEMS LIKE A LOT MORE TROUBLE THAN IT IS. UH, AND IF WE'VE ONLY HAD THREE STOLEN ONE'S, TOO MANY, IF IT'S YOUR CAR, BUT IF IT'S GONNA COST US $115,000 TO, UH, TRY TO CATCH THREE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS, I, WE MIGHT BE BETTER OFF PAYING FOR SOMEBODY'S CATALYTIC CONVERTER IN THAT CASE. BUT I AGREE. LET, LET ME CLARIFY, THIS IS JUST FOR THE VE MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT IN GENERAL, NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR CATALYTIC CONVERTERS. THANK YOU. THAT, THAT, THAT'S JUST, THAT MAKES IT BETTER FOR ME. SPECIFIC LANGUAGE, YES. BUT IT IS FOR ALL VEHICLE THEFT IN TOTAL, NOT JUST CATALYTIC CONVERTERS, IT'S ANYTHING THAT WOULD REDUCE VEHICLE THEFTS. AS YOU GET THE PUBLIC ON REDUCING VEHICLE THEFTS, IT'LL FUND A POSITION FOR DETECTIVE TO INVESTIGATE VEHICLE THEFTS. UM, ANYTHING SURROUNDING VEHICLE THEFTS, THAT MAKES IT MUCH BETTER FOR ME RATHER THAN ONE PIECE OFF OF A VEHICLE. CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY TELL ME HOW THIS SYSTEM WORKS? IS THIS JUST A CAMERA TO WHERE WE SEE WHO'S COMING AND GOING? DOES IT TRACK SOMETHING? WHAT, BRIEFLY IN THE, IN THE, [02:45:01] THE LAYMAN'S AREA? NO, NOT GIVING ANY SECRETS AWAY. WHAT IS THIS DOING FOR US? SO WE HAVE A NETWORK OF LPR, LICENSE PLATE READER CAMERAS THROUGHOUT TOWN. THOSE CAMERAS TALK TO EACH OTHER AND THEY'RE ALSO CONNECTED TO OTHER CAMERAS THROUGHOUT THE NETWORK. IT'S WATCHING WHO'S COMING AND GOING, CATCHING CAPTURING VEHICLE DATA AND LICENSE PLATE DATA AS THEY PASS. IT'S CATCHING AFTER THE CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED. THIS IS NOT A PREVENTION EFFORT. YEAH. SO IF WE HAVE, UH, A VEHICLE THAT HAS COMMITTED A CRIME AND WE GET A LICENSE PLATE OR VEHICLE DESCRIPTION, WE CAN SEARCH THOSE CAMERA NETWORKS AND THEN ALSO WE CAN TALK TO OTHER AGENCIES THAT MIGHT HAVE, UM, INFORMATION ON THAT VEHICLE AS WELL. AND THEN WE START CONNECTING, UM, AND IT'S A FORCE MULTIPLIER WITH OUR DETECTIVES SO WE CAN, UM, SOLVE THESE CRIMES. OKAY. DO, DO THEY, DO THEY TAKE AND SELL THESE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS OR DO THEY TEAR 'EM APART FOR THE PRECIOUS METALS? UH, BOTH. USUALLY THEY'LL GO TO A, UH, SECOND HAND, UH, METAL STRIKER AND THEY'LL GET, UM, THE PRICE FOR WHATEVER THOSE METALS ARE, THEN WHAT THEY DO WITH IT AFTER THAT IN THE LEGISLATURE, NOT MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THEY DO ON MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. IF SOMEBODY TAKES SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS INTO A SALVAGE YARD OR A RECYCLING FACILITY, THEY HAVE TO BE REPORTED. IS THERE ANY PROGRESS ON THAT TO TRY TO CATCH 'EM ON THAT END AS WELL? SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME FROM THE LEGISLATURE OF, OF LOOKING AT THE BUSINESSES, SOME REQUIREMENTS OF HIM. AND THE BIGGEST THING IS JUST ENHANCING THAT, THAT CRIMINAL OFFENSE TO A STATE JAIL FELONY FOR POSSESSING PARTS OF A CATALY CONVERTER THAT'S NOT ASSIGNED TO YOUR VEHICLE. OKAY. YEAH. TRY TO, TRY TO TAKE A PIECE OF A, UH, RAILROAD TRACK IN AND SELL IT. DARREN. SO, UH, ON SLIDE TWO, UM, I DID SEE THAT IT, IT'S, UM, THE M-V-C-P-A IS A, IS A COOPERATIVE OF THOSE DIFFERENT, UM, GROUPS, UM, TRYING TO PREVENT, UH, THIS, AND IT'S, IT IS NOT JUST CA CATALY CONVERTERS, IT'S ALL, UH, VEHICLE THEFT. SO I JUST, UM, RANDY, UH, STARTED ON THAT. UH, I I WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE AS WELL. SO, ON ON SLIDE, UH, SO ON THE LPR LICENSE PLATE READERS NOW, AND THE FLOCK CAMERAS, DO THEY, DO THEY GIVE AUTO ALERTS WHENEVER A LICENSE PLATE COMES INTO, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU, YOU GET A, A BLIP ON YOUR, ON YOUR RADAR OR WHAT? YES, SIR. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT. EXPAND. WE CAN SET UP WHAT'S CALLED A HOT LIST. SO IF WE HAVE INFORMATION ON A VEHICLE, IF WE WANNA SET FOR, WANTED INDIVIDUALS, UH, 'CAUSE A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION IS TIED TO THE LICENSE PLATE. SO ANYTIME A LICENSE PLATE PASSES THAT CAMERA, IT'S NOTIFIES US IN REAL TIME, HEY, THIS VEHICLE IS EITHER WANTED FOR A FELONY OFFENSE OR THERE'S WANTED INDIVIDUAL ATTACHED TO THIS VEHICLE'S LICENSE PLATE. WE GET ALERTED TO IT. I'VE HEARD SOME, UH, RESIDENT, UH, STORIES ABOUT HOW COPS SHOWED UP AT THEIR HOUSE BECAUSE THAT CAR CAME, IT WAS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO IT WAS LIKE A, A REALLY GOOD PREVENTION ON CATCHING THAT IS IT'S COMING IN. SO ONE OF THE THINGS, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF, OF THE GRANT OF COURSE. OR, OR APPLYING FOR THE GRANT. OKAY. I, I DO WANNA WATCH LONG-TERM COST, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW FTE AND USUALLY WHEN YOU ADD FTES, IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET RID OF 'EM. UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER, UH, BENEFITS OR OTHER, OTHER STRATEGIC NEEDS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE, THE FTE THAT IT WOULD ADD? SO, WITH A GRANT THAT HAS TO BE SPECIFIC TO VEHICLE CRIMES AND THE PREVENTION AND INVESTIGATION OF VEHICLE THEFT. SO THIS WOULD BE A VEHICLE CRIMES DETECTIVE THAT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO INVESTIGATING STOLEN VEHICLES, WORKING WITH OTHER TASK FORCE AGENCIES TO PREVENT VEHICLE THEFTS, PROVIDE EDUCATION TO THE PUBLIC. UM, BUT AGAIN, ALL THAT WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL DURING THE NORMAL BUDGET PROCESS LOOKING AT FUNDING BECAUSE THERE IS A 20% MATCH FOR THE TOWN. SURE. CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE FOUR? YES, SIR. SO SLIDE FOUR IS, WOULD BE THAT RECURRING COST OF, UH, 2 0 3, 200 3000, UH, FOR THE DETECTIVE FOR THAT FTE? YES. AND THIS IS, THIS IS A GRANT THAT WE WOULD APPLY FOR YEARLY. SO, SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE IS HOW LONG DO WE SEE THIS GRANT CONTINUING? SO, GREAT QUESTION. SO LAST YEAR THERE WAS, UM, A LOT OF FUNDS LEFT ON THE TABLE BECAUSE THEY, IT'S A WELL-FUNDED PROGRAM, SO THERE'S BEEN A BIG PUSH FOR AGENCIES TO APPLY FOR MORE AND MORE AND MORE, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE INCREASED THE ASK THIS YEAR. UM, GOING FORWARD, I CAN'T SIT HERE WITH A CRYSTAL BALL AND SAY THERE'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE FUNDED AT THE SAME LEVEL NEXT YEAR, BUT EVERY YEAR WE WILL REQUEST FUNDS FOR PROJECTS THAT WE NEED AND BRING THAT BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. I DO LIKE, UH, ALWAYS LEVERAGING THE GRANTS FOR SURE. UM, SO BACK ONTO THE SECURITY AND PRIVACY CONCERNS WITH FLOCK. HOW, HOW DO WE GET ASSURANCE OF THAT THAT IS, UH, KEPT CONFIDENTIAL AND, AND NOT, UH, PROFILING OR OTHER, UH, INTRUSION ON PEOPLE'S PRIVACY? SO, SO WE HAVE TALENT POLICIES THAT, THAT GOVERN THAT. UM, ONE RETENTION DATA, NOTHING'S KEPT ON THE SYSTEM FOR MORE THAN 30 DAYS. SO AFTER THAT, IT'S COMPLETELY SCRUBBED. WE DON'T SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH ANY OTHER ENTITY UNLESS WE APPROVE THAT. AND IT'S GOTTA BE A APPROVED ENTITY THAT, FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSE, WE DON'T ARBITRARILY SHARE THAT INFORMATION. THEY HAVE TO REQUEST INFORMATION FROM US. SO THEY HAVE TO REQUEST SCANS THAT OUR CAMERAS HOLD. UM, AND USUALLY WE'LL SET UP, UH, SHARING WITH OTHER AGENCIES, LOCAL AGENCIES, SO WE CAN WORK TOGETHER, BUT WE CONTROL WHERE THAT DATA GOES. FLOCK DOES NOT KEEP THE DATA. FLOCK DOES NOT SELL THE DATA TO ANYBODY. IT STAYS [02:50:01] WITHIN, UM, OUR, UM, SERVER. AND THEN AFTER 30 DAYS, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY DELETED. YOU CAN'T GO BACK AND RETRIEVE IT. SO IF WE GET DATA FROM OTHER AGENCIES ALL OVER THE STATE, THEN HOW DO THEY, HOW DO WE NOT RECIPROCATE THAT DATA? BECAUSE IT'S BASED, WE, WE HAVE TO OPEN UP SHARING. SO THERE ARE SOME ENTITIES THAT WE WON'T, WE WOULDN'T SHARE DATA WITH. THERE'S SOME ENTITIES THAT WE WOULDN'T, BUT THAT IS A TOWN DECISION. IT'S NOT ARBITRARILY SHARED. I WOULD HOPE NOT. YEAH. ASSUME THAT IT'S JUST TO, I I I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD SEE IT AND DIGEST IT TO WHERE WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT. SOME OF THE PRIVACY POLICIES THAT WE HAVE, I, I HAVE AT LEAST TWO RESIDENTS ASKING ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW. SEEING THE FLOCK CAMERAS GO UP, KIND OF RAISED SOME HAIRS ON PEOPLE'S NECKS. ABSOLUTELY. AND SO THE THINGS WE CONFIRM IS, ONE, WE DON'T COLLECT PERSONAL IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION. THESE ARE PUBLIC RECORDS. IT'S A LICENSE PLATE. EVERY VEHICLE CAPTURES ONE OR THE DESCRIPTION OF THE, OF THE VEHICLE. UM, AND AGAIN, WE DON'T SHARE WITH ANY ENTITY THAT'S NOT AUTHORIZED AND WE CONTROL WHO WE SHARE THAT DATA WITH. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. JUST WANNA KIND OF GET THOSE IN, OUT IN ADVANCE OF, UH, SOME OF THOSE IN ADVANCE OF THE BUDGET AND SOME OF THOSE, UH, MORE IMMEDIATE FROM A PRIVACY, UM, EDUCATION OF HOW WE USE IT. HOWARD. SO TO TONIGHT, ALL WE'RE DISCUSSING AND VOTING ON IS APPLYING FOR THE GRANT. YES, SIR. RIGHT. WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF US RECEIVING IT? ARE THERE A LOT OF PEOPLE APPLYING AND WE'RE IN COMPETITION OR, I SPOKE WITH OUR A GRANT WRITER TODAY AND ASKED THAT SAME QUESTION AND SHE SEEMS PRETTY CERTAIN THAT WE WOULD GET FUNDING FOR WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING. AGAIN, WE'LL KNOW FOR SURE ON JULY 24TH. OKAY. WELL, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON NOT TO APPLY, SO THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. BEN. MOTION TO APPROVE SIX B. SECOND. THANK YOU DAN AND MARLON WITH THE SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYE. VERY GOOD. ITEM SIX B IS APPROVED. THANK YOU CHIEF. ALRIGHT, [7. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.] OUR FINAL ITEM OF THE EVENING IS ITEM SEVEN, ITEM OF COMMUNITY INTERESTS, OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNSEL TO EXPRESS, UH, EXPRESSIONS OF THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE INFORMATION, ET CETERA. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE? DARREN? SO, UM, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO A LOT OF RESIDENTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, I MEAN, A LOT. AND, UM, I ASK A QUESTION OF, UM, SO, UH, HOW'S IT GOING? HOW DO YOU LIKE ADDISON? WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE? AND I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THE STAFF, OKAY. AND, AND COUNCIL AND EVERYBODY. AND HERE IS, UH, PEOPLE LOVE LIVING IN ADDISON. YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT A COUPLE THINGS THEY WANT TO, UM, UH, GIVE ME INFORMATION ABOUT, BUT I JUST WANNA RELAY THAT BACK. JUST VERY HAPPY. MOST RECENTLY WAS HERE IN THE CIRCLE. THOSE PEOPLE ARE EVEN HAPPIER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE. SO JUST, JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW. SO JUST SOME REALLY GOOD AFFIRMATION I HAD TO SHARE THAT. THANK YOU DARREN. AND READY? THANK YOU, SIR. I HAVE, UH, TWO TONIGHT, IF YOU DON'T MIND. YES SIR. NEITHER OF WHICH I HOPE ARE CONTROVERSIAL, BUT, UH, WE SEE THEY SHOULDN'T BE. I WILL JUST SAY, AND I, I'LL START WITH ONE THAT, THAT IT WOULD BE BE THE ONLY ONE THAT IT'S IN QUESTION. AND IN THIS SEASON, THIS ELECTION SEASON, UH, I JUST WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PASSIONATE ON ALL SIDES OF THESE ISSUES. YOUR PASSIONATE, WHATEVER CANDIDATE YOU ARE BEHIND, WHATEVER PROPOSITION YOU ARE BEHIND. I WANNA THANK EVERYONE THAT'S OUT THERE HELPING, UH, MAKE THIS TOWN IN THEIR EYES BETTER. AND, UH, I NEVER REALIZED HOW HARD IT'S HARDER WORKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE THAN IT IS WORKING FOR YOURSELF. THANK YOU. FROM WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE. NO MATTER WHAT SIDE YOU'RE ON FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRULY DOING IT TO MAKE THE TOWN BETTER. AND NOW I I, I WILL GET TO ONE THAT I ABSOLUTELY KNOW WE'VE GOT 100% AGREEMENT ON, AND WE HAVE A, UH, EMPLOYEE IN TOWN, UH, THAT HAS A NEW ADDITION TO THEIR FAMILY. AND I'D JUST LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AND, AND, UH, SAY A CONGRATULATIONS FOR THEM. AND VALENCIA, IF YOU WOULD HELP ME WITH THE NAME, MY TEXAN WILL ABSOLUTELY DESTROY THIS BEAUTIFUL NAME. IF YOU CAN PRONOUNCE THAT FOR ME, PLEASE. UH, LUIS ABARA ABARA, SEE HOW BEAUTIFUL THAT NAME IS. AND I, I DESTROY IT. SO HIM AND HIS, UH, WIFE DANA DOT HAVE A NEW ADDITION TO THEIR FAMILY WITH A NEW BABY THAT WAS BORN ON APRIL THE FIRST AT 4:45 AM SEVEN POUNDS, THREE OUNCES, 19 AND THREE QUARTER INCHES LONG. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY WELCOME TO OUR NEWEST ADDISON RESIDENT AND CONGRATULATIONS AND WISH THEM WELL. AND HOWEVER, WELL THANK YOU RANDY. AND EVERYBODY LOVES LOUISE HOWARD. YES, HE IS MINE. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME, BUT I'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE TALK TO ME AND EVEN GOT A, A CODE VIOLATION MYSELF [02:55:01] ON TRASH BEING PLACED OUT OVER THE WEEKEND. AND THIS SPECIFICALLY HAS TO DO WITH YARD WORK. IT'S WHEN THE YARD MEN COME ON THURSDAY OR FRIDAY AND THEY BAG UP YOUR CLIPPINGS AND PUT IT BY THE CURB. AND I GUESS THE, THE THING IS THAT THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTS THAT REALLY ARE OFFENDED BY IT AND COMPLAINING ABOUT IT, AND THEN I'M SEEING IT ALL OVER TOWN. SO I DON'T KNOW REALLY IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO ADDRESS, BUT IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO A BETTER JOB POLICING, DO A BETTER JOB INFORMING, BECAUSE NOW I'VE TOLD MY, MY, UH, YARD MAN THAT DON'T LEAVE IT ON THE CURB ANYMORE, PUT IT IN THE VA, THE TRASH CANS AND PUT IT BEHIND THE WALL. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING? BECAUSE I'VE LIVED HERE 26 YEARS, THIS WAS NEVER A PROBLEM BEFORE. WE REALLY CAN'T DISCUSS THIS TOO MUCH. NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT I WOULD SAY WE HAVE SENT A LOT OF UPDATES TO COUNCIL OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS ON THIS TOPIC, AND WE CAN TOUCH BASE OFFLINE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, YEAH, I'LL, I JUST WANTED TO ECHO SOME OF THE, THE STATEMENTS FROM SOME OF THE CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN KNOCKING ON A BUNCH OF A BUNCH OF DOORS AND ANSWERING A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND, AND HEAVY COMMUNICATIONS IN A GREAT WAY. UM, SO, UH, WE HAVE WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION IN, IN ADDISON TOWN OF ADDISON HISTORY. UM, AND, AND I MEASURE THAT BY THE AMOUNT OF VOTES THAT WILL BE CAST, MAYBE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT'S ON THE BALLOT, UM, AND, AND THE FUTURE OF, UH, MOBILITY IN MANY WAYS. AND SO, UM, I, THIS BALLOT IS SO LARGE, I FEEL LIKE I'M A CANDIDATE. I MEAN, THE THE LEVEL OF COMMUNICATIONS, PEOPLE REACHING OUT TO ME VIA EMAIL, PHONE CALLS, RUNNING INTO ME, ASKING ME QUESTIONS. SO, UM, I WOULD JUST, IF I THINK HALF OF THE VOTE HAS ALREADY COME IN, IN EARLY VOTING, AND I THINK WE'VE GOT ANOTHER HALF OF THE VOTE THAT'LL COME SATURDAY. BUT, UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE IF, IF, IF SOMEBODY'S WATCHING THIS AND YOU HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE BALLOT, THERE'S A LOT ON THIS BALLOT, SO PLEASE GO TO DALLAS COUNTY ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT AND PULL UP A SAMPLE BALLOT, UM, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA WALK IN TO, TO VOTE AND, AND BE SHOCKED BY, BY ALL THE VARIOUS PROPOSITIONS AND SO FORTH. AND, AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANNA SHARE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME AND, AND OTHERS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY WITH, WITH SOME REALLY GREAT, GREAT QUESTIONS ABOUT ALL THIS STUFF, UM, I'M APPRECIATIVE THAT, THAT, THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO DIG TO, TO SOME OF THIS INFORMATION AND, AND, AND GET THESE DETAILS BEFORE THEY GO IN AND VOTE. SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE. THANK YOU, MARLON. UH, THE COMMENT I HAVE TONIGHT, UH, I WAS REMINDED DURING OUR WORK SESSION WHEN CHIEF ALEXANDER WAS GIVING HIS, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT UPDATE, WHICH WAS, UH, VERY WELL DONE BY THE WAY. BUT I WAS REMINDED OF OUR, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, JULIE WINKLER, YOU KNOW, SHE, WHEN SHE CAME ON, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW LONG AGO IT WAS NOW, A YEAR OR TWO, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UH, SHE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND SHE'S JUST BEEN DOING AN AMAZING JOB FOR US. AND, AND SHE'S JUST DOING ALL THIS STUFF AND YOU DON'T REALLY SEE HER DOING STUFF, BUT SHE'S GET, GOT SO MUCH STUFF GOING ON. SHE'S NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE SPOTLIGHT, SHINING ON HER, EVERYTHING, ANYTHING. BUT SHE'S, SHE'S LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY SAFE EVERY DAY WHILE WE WERE DOING OUR THING THROUGHOUT THE DAY TODAY. AND MAYBE LOOKING AT OUR PHONE, SEEING THE RADAR. SHE WAS TALKING TO EVERYBODY THAT THAT'S INVOLVED IN ALL THAT. SO I JUST, I JUST APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT SHE'S DOING AND, AND WORKING HARD TO KEEP US SAFE. AND, UH, AND I KNOW SINCE WE NEVER REALLY HAD ONE BEFORE OUTSIDE OF A FIRE CHIEF, UH, SHE'S DONE AN AMAZING JOB FOR US. I APPRECIATE JULIE. UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT? NO, MA'AM. ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, IT IS 9 37 AND WE'RE ADJOURNED FOR THE EVENING. THANKS EVERYBODY. SEE YOU NEXT TIME. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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