Apr 07, 2026 Work Session

IT IS FIVE THIRTY TWO AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON APRIL 7TH, 2026.

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

[1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present]

THIS IS A WORK SESSION MEETING.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT WITH SIX OF US PRESENT IN THE ROOM.

AND WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER GARDNER IS JOINING US ONLINE VIA ZOOM.

GOOD EVENING, DARREN.

GOOD EVENING.

AND AS ALWAYS, WE'D LIKE TO START WITH THE PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS.

IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE AS YOU'RE ABLE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

GO TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT.

CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.

AGENDA COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS.

CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW.

THE COUNCIL IS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME?

[a. Present and discuss the Planning and Zoning Commission Annual Report for calendar year 2025.]

ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE.

CLOSE THAT PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVE ON TO OUR WORK SESSION REPORTS.

ITEM FOUR A, PRESENT AND DISCUSS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2025.

DENISE, GOOD EVENING.

HELLO.

GOOD EVENING.

SO FOR OUR 2025 ANNUAL REPORTS, THE YEAR STARTED OFF WITH TWO NEW APPOINTMENTS, WHICH WAS TYLER, WRIGHT, AND ALAN THEME.

UM, I THINK YOUR NEXT, AM I CLICKING LESLIE? ME JUST THE ARROW.

OKAY, HERE WE GO.

OOPS.

I THINK, OKAY.

HERE IS THE ATTENDANCE RECORD FOR REGULAR COMMISSION MEETINGS.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, I WOULD CONSIDER THAT PRETTY EXCELLENT, CONSIDERING EVERYBODY HAS FULL-TIME JOBS, .

SO THERE WAS THREE OF US THAT HAD A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, PARTICIPATION AND THEN A HANDFUL OF MISSED ONE AND JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT MISSED TWO MEETINGS.

SO I SAID, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY SOLID.

OOPS.

I HIT A BUTTON, I THINK.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SORRY.

SHE SHOULD GIVEN LESSONS ON THIS BEFORE I GOT STARTED.

I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS IN CONTROL.

AND THEN, UH, THIS IS JUST MORE DETAILS OF WHAT ACTUAL MEETINGS HAPPENED AND WHO WAS PRESIDENT AT HWE.

DIDN'T HAVE, UH, WORK SESSION OR WORK MEETINGS THREE MONTHS OF THE YEAR.

AND THE NEXT ONE IS ANY SPECIAL MEETINGS WE HAD.

SO AS YOU'RE ALL AWARE, WE WORKED ON, UH, UDCA LITTLE IN THE ADDISON.

I STILL CALL IT ADDISON, 2050 ADVANCED ADDISON.

THAT'S THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR.

UM, GREAT ATTENDANCE THERE.

YOU KNOW, ONE THAT HAD A ONE MISS.

SO I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GREAT.

UH, NEXT ITEM IS ANNUAL CASE REVIEW.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE WERE DOWN QUITE A BIT FROM 2024.

THAT'S ABOUT A 29% DROP IN CASE REVIEW.

UM, AND THEN HERE'S THE DETAILED BREAKDOWN OF THOSE.

SO WE DID REZONING AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS WAS, UH, SEVEN WAS THE COUNT OF THOSE.

WE SAW FIVE SPECIAL USE PERMITS, TWO ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS, FIVE FLATS, AND ONE LONG RANGE POLICY.

THIS IS A MAP.

YOU HAVE AN OVERVIEW OF ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. UM, ENTIRE MAP YOU CAN SEE WHERE EVERYTHING'S CONCENTRATED.

LOT OF IT AND AND UH, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WERE THE TWO SPECIAL PROJECTS WE WORKED ON THIS YEAR THAT GOT WRAPPED UP.

UM, GOALS FOR NEXT YEAR, THIS YEAR, I SHOULDN'T SAY NEXT YEAR FOR 2026.

EXECUTION OF THE 2026 PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT WORK PLAN.

MAJOR AREAS FOCUS WILL INCLUDE APPLYING THE UDC IN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ADVANCE EDISON 2050 TO DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

AND THE SECOND GOAL IS TO CONDUCT PERIOD DEVELOPMENT TOURS WITH COMMISSION, UM, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, DENISE.

UH, AND EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBER OF CASES WAS DOWN LAST YEAR, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF EXTRA WORK TOO.

SO IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED AND YEP, DEFINITELY NOTICED.

SO ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY ASK FOR DENISE? IT'S A COMMENT.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU GUYS DO.

I KNOW.

MICROPHONE PLEASE.

SORRY, .

UH, I KNOW IT WASN'T EASY LAST COUPLE YEARS WITH THE UDC AND THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT, UM, JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ITEM FOUR B AND DISCUSS THE PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX AND CROSSING TREATMENT GUIDELINES, INCLUDING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE TOOLS TO BE USED ALONG WITH THE PROCESS, PROJECTS TO BE COMPLETED AND A STATUS UPDATE OF ONGOING PROJECTS OR COMPLETED PROJECTS.

THAT'S GREAT.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY ON THIS? YOU WELCOME.

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THANK, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT,

[b. Present and discuss the Pedestrian Toolbox and Crossing Treatment Guidelines including the recommendation of the tools to be used along with the process, projects to be completed and a status update of ongoing projects or completed projects.]

BECKY? OH, NOT BECKY.

OH, I LET CHRISTIAN, I'LL START.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL CHRISTIAN DIKA WITH KIMLEY HORN.

I HELPED YOU GUYS OUT WITH THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN LAST YEAR AND TODAY WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS THE PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX AND CROSSING TREATMENT GUIDELINES.

UM, THAT WAS A COMPONENT OF THAT PROJECT.

UM, THROUGHOUT THE MTP PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT, WE, WE WANT GOOD PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES, WE WANT SAFE FACILITIES, WE WANT COMFORTABLE FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE, THE TOWN.

UM, THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT CROSSING HIGH SPEED WIDE STREETS, UM, AND AN OVERALL SENSE OF A, A DESIRE FOR CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS AND THE COMMERCIAL AREAS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.

TO BE CLEAR, WE DID HEAR ADDISON, YOU KNOW, IS KNOWN FOR BEING, BEING QUITE WALKABLE, UM, WITHIN THE METROPLEX.

BUT, UM, THERE IS THE DESIRE TO CONTINUE SOME OF THE GOOD WORK THAT THE TOWN HAS DONE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, UM, IN THAT EFFORT.

SO OUR GOAL WAS THEN SIMPLE, TAKE WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, ABOUT SAFETY AND PEDESTRIAN COMFORTABILITY, AND TRANSLATE THAT INTO A SET OF TOOLS, UM, THAT THEN COULD BE TURNED INTO ACTIONABLE PROJECTS THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.

UM, I'M GONNA BRIEFLY WALK THROUGH THE TOOLBOX, WHAT IT IS, UM, AND WHAT INFORMATION AND PROVIDES.

AND THEN I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO BECKY TO THEN TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS FOR THE TOWN AND CREATION OF A PROGRAM FOR THIS.

SO THE PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX, IT'S CONSISTS OF THESE 13 TOOLS.

SOME OF THEM ARE RELATIVELY BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE SIDEWALKS, MARKED CROSSWALKS, CURB RAMPS.

SOME OF IT'S A BIT MORE TECHNICAL LIKE PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON AND BETTER SAFETY COUNTERMEASURES LIKE THAT.

AND OUR RFB, WHICH IS A RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASHING BEACON.

WE ALSO HAVE, ONE OF THE ONES YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW ON HERE IS LPI.

THAT'S A LEADING PEDESTRIAN INTERVAL.

THAT'S WHERE A PEDESTRIAN GETS A, A WALK SIGNAL, BUT BEFORE THE ADJACENT GREEN SO THEY CAN ESTABLISH RIGHT OF WAY WITHIN THE STREET PREVENTING CARS FROM TURNING IN FRONT OF THEM.

UM, THE TOOLBOX ALSO, UH, REFERENCES QUITE A FEW MANUALS THAT ARE PUBLISHED BY THE STATE.

UM, FHWA, UM, THAT ARE ALL RESOURCES, UM, THAT WENT INTO DEVELOPING SOME OF THE DESIGN GUIDANCE WITHIN THE TOOLS, THE TOOLBOX FEATURES, UM, RELATIVELY SIMPLE.

UM, WE WANTED TO CREATE A DOCUMENT THAT STAFF COULD USE, UM, WHEN THEY'RE MAKING DESIGN CHOICES AND THEY CAN QUICKLY FLIP TO A PAGE AND SELECT THE RIGHT TOOL FOR A LOCATION.

UM, BUT ALSO SOMETHING THAT COULD INFORM THE PUBLIC ON WHAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO REQUEST FOR A LOCATION.

SO IT DESCRIBES THE PURPOSE OF THE TOOL, HOW IT'S USED.

UM, THE TYPICAL USE IS, IS GONNA DESCRIBE WHERE IT'S MOST EFFECTIVE.

FOR EXAMPLE, THIS ONE, UM, MARKED CROSSWALK.

UH, IT DOES STATE THAT IT SHOULD BE ON A ROADWAY THAT HAS ABOUT 3000 VEHICLES PER DAY.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA WANNA PUT IT ON A CUL-DE-SAC IN FRONT OF SOMEONE'S HOUSE.

AND THAT, THAT HELPS INFORM THE PUBLIC.

UM, ALSO IT'S A BETTER USE FOR THE MARKED CROSSWALK 'CAUSE YOU REALLY WANNA PLACE SOME WHERE THERE ARE PEDESTRIAN NEEDS AND, AND WHERE DRIVERS SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHERE PEDESTRIANS ARE CROSSING.

AND THAT'S WHEN IT'S THE SAFEST USE OF A CROSSWALK.

UM, FOR MORE TECHNICAL ITEMS LIKE THE RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASHING BEACON, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR STAFF A LOT IN THE, IN THE DESIGN GUIDANCE, WE'LL, WE'LL CALL IT TO WHERE THE FHWA APPROVED USE OF THIS DEVICE, UM, WE CALL IT TO WHERE IT'S REFERENCED WITHIN THE TEXAS, UH, MANUAL OF UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.

UM, AND WHAT DESIGN GUIDANCE THAT IT PROVIDES.

NOT ALL OF THAT COULD FIT ON ONE PAGE.

SO IT'S REALLY A RESOURCE ON WHERE TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON IT.

ALSO, IT PROVIDES SOME, UM, INSIGHTS LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAD A MEDIAN AT THIS LOCATION, YOU COULD INSTALL A THIRD BEACON, NOT JUST THE TWO ON THE SIDE OF THE ROADS, BUT ONE IN THE MEDIAN TO INCREASE ITS CONCEPT OF QOV, UM, FOR DRIVERS TRAVELING ALONG THE ROADWAY.

UH, THE NEXT STEP ONCE WE HAVE ALL THOSE 13 TOOLS IS, IS HOW TO CHOOSE WHICH TOOL TO USE.

UM, AND THAT'S WHERE THE CROSSING TREATMENT GUIDELINES COME INTO PLAY.

UM, THIS IS A PROCESS FOR THE TOWN TO USE ON IDENTIFYING LOCATIONS.

SO THAT COULD BE EITHER THROUGH,

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UM, CIP PROJECTS, UM, WRITTEN REQUESTS FROM, UH, CITIZENS.

IT COULD BE STAFF IDENTIFIED LOCATIONS.

AND THEN EVALUATING THOSE, THOSE LOCATIONS.

SO GATHERING THE SPEED DATAS OF THAT ROADWAY VOLUMES, HOW MANY PEDESTRIANS ARE CROSSING, UM, WHERE IT'S SITTING AT.

IS IT ON INTERSECTION, IS IT MID BLOCK? UM, IS THERE SITE DISTANCE ISSUES? AND ONCE YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION, PRIORITIZING WHICH ONE LOCATIONS WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY THE MOST, WHERE THERE'S THE MOST PEDESTRIANS CROSSING WITHOUT A CROSSWALK, FOR EXAMPLE, OR, UM, POTENTIALLY A HIGH RISK LOCATION.

HIGH SPEEDS, UM, POTENTIAL FOR A MORE SERIOUS CRASH, UH, WOULD BE A WAY TO PRIORITIZE AS WELL.

AND THEN ONCE YOU SELECT A LOCATION FOR, UH, A CROSSWALK AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENT, THEN IT'S CHOOSING THE RIGHT TREATMENT.

SO IT'S NOT JUST DECIDING WE'RE GONNA STRIPE A CROSSWALK ACROSS BELTLINE LOAD, BELTLINE ROAD.

YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT YOU PROVIDE SOME SAFETY TOOLS FROM OUR TOOLBOX TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A SAFE CROSSING.

SO THAT COULD BE PEDESTRIAN HIGHWAY, BEACON REFUGE ISLANDS, UM, BOUTS ON THE SIDE, UM, VERSUS IF IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, JUST STRIPING THE ROAD IS SUFFICIENT ENOUGH.

SO THERE'S A TABLE WITHIN THE GUIDELINES THAT HELPS YOU SELECT THE RIGHT TREATMENTS, UM, FOR EACH LOCATION.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, IT'S, UM, BECAUSE WE WANT THIS TO BE A PROGRAM, IT'S IMPLEMENTING IT AND THEN MONITORING.

SO PULLING YOUR SAFETY DATA EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE FOR PEDESTRIAN CRASHES, TAKING THIS ONE STEP FORWARD.

SO NOW WE HAVE THE TOOLS, WE, WE KNOW HOW TO USE 'EM.

UM, IT'S IDENTIFYING LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.

UH, THIS MAP, WHICH WAS A PART OF THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, IT'S COLOR CODED INTO THREE COLORS.

UM, THE FIRST IS ORANGE, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE ACTUALLY IS A CROSSWALK AT THAT LOCATION, BUT IT COULD USE SOME OF THE TOOLS WITHIN THE TOOLBOX TO MAKE IT BETTER, WHETHER THAT BE A, A CURB RAMP, UH, A REFUGE ISLAND LEADING PEDESTRIAN INTERVAL.

IT CAN BE IMPROVED IN SOME WAY TO MAKE IT SAFER AND MORE COMFORTABLE TO CROSS AT THAT LOCATION.

THE SECOND COLOR IS THE BLUE STAR.

UM, THAT IS ACTUALLY, LET'S GO GREEN FIRST.

THE GREEN STAR, WHICH IS A, A NEW CROSSWALK.

SO THESE ARE YOUR PROPOSED NEW CROSSWALK LOCATIONS.

THIS IS BASED ON MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN DATA THAT SHOWED THAT THERE WERE HIGH PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITIES IN THAT LOCATION.

OR IT MIGHT BE LOCATED ON A LONG BLOCK WITH NO CURRENT CROSSING, UM, THAT WE BELIEVE A NEW CROSSWALK SHOULD BE EVALUATED AT THAT LOCATION.

AND THEN THE BLUE STAR IS, UM, IDENTIFIED FOR FUTURE EVALUATION.

PERHAPS THERE'S NOT THE PEDESTRIAN VOLUMES THERE TODAY, BUT IT'S LOCATED ON A LONG BLOCK WHERE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CROSSING OPPORTUNITIES OR THERE'S DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD OCCUR IN THAT AREA THAT COULD ONE DAY MAKE THAT A, A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR A CROSSWALK.

UM, THIS WAS ALL COMPLETED WITH AN INITIAL ANALYSIS WITHIN THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

HOWEVER, EACH ONE OF THESE LOCATIONS SHOULD STILL GO THROUGH THAT CROSSING TREATMENT GUIDELINES PROCESS THAT WE IDENTIFIED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

UM, AND IT ALSO SHOULD HAVE SITE SPECIFIC ENGINEERING IF IT'S PEDESTRIAN, HYBRID, BEACON, RECTANGULAR, RAPID FLASHING, BEACON, 'CAUSE THOSE NEED ACTUAL DESIGNS.

UM, AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE STEPS WE'VE TAKEN IN THE PLANNING PROCESS AND I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO BECKY TO TALK ABOUT THE ACTION PLAN AND WHAT THE TOWN PLANS FOR US NEXT.

ALRIGHT, THANK, THANK YOU ALRIGHTYY.

SO NEXT STEPS, WELL THERE YOU GO.

NEXT STEPS, UM, IS TO LOOK AT A COMPILED LIST OF PROJECTS OF WHICH I'M GONNA SHOW YOU HERE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES, UM, FROM THE TOOLBOX.

UM, AND THEN THAT COULD BE EITHER EXISTING PROJECTS OR PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD REQUESTED, WHETHER IT'S THINGS HAVE COME THROUGH OUR FIXIT APP OR THROUGH CITIZENS' REQUESTS THAT WE RECEIVE VIA EMAIL, PHONE CALL, ET CETERA.

UM, WE'RE GONNA WORK TO IMPLEMENT AND TRACK THE PROGRESS OF ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.

YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT IN JUST A MINUTE TOO, UM, THROUGH THE INTERNAL PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX DASHBOARD, WHICH WE CREATED.

UM, AND THEN WORK TO EXECUTE THOSE PROJECTS.

SO THOSE ARE BASED ON USING EXISTING FUNDING, WHETHER WE GET GRANTS FROM THE HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, UM, THAT OP PROVIDES US.

WE HAD ONE JUST RECENTLY COME TO COUNCIL.

UM, AT THE LAST MEETING.

WE HAVE MAINTENANCE PROJECT FUNDING BOND, UM, CIP PROJECTS THAT COULD COME UP.

WE MIGHT EVEN COME TO YOU WITH FUTURE DECISION PACKAGES OR OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING IN ORDER TO EXECUTE THESE PROJECTS.

SO THIS IS A GLIMPSE OF THE PEDESTRIAN DASHBOARD THAT STAFF CREATED.

UM, I REALLY LIKE IT BECAUSE IT'S A VISUALIZATION, UM, THAT I CAN SEE AND LOOK AT AT ANY PERIOD OF TIME KIND OF TO LOOK AT WHAT IS THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT THAT NEEDS

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TO BE MADE IN THE AREA.

SO ALL THE PROJECTS THAT CHRISTIAN JUST SHOWED YOU, UM, THAT WERE ON THE MAP THAT HAD ALL OF THE STARS, THEY'RE NOW IN THIS AREA.

UM, YOU MAY SEE SOME OF THESE SHOWING THAT THEY HAVE NEW CROSSINGS.

SO PROPOSED NEW CROSSINGS.

THERE'S 11 CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS, THERE'S 25 AND FUTURE CROSSING EVALUATION, IT SHOWS FOUR.

SO THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS.

THIS WILL CHANGE AS WE WORK TO IMPLEMENT THINGS OR CLEAN UP THINGS BASED ON RECEIVING DATA OR WORK TO COMPLETE THOSE PROJECTS.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A GLANCE, I'M GONNA GO INTO THE DIFFERENT TABS IN THAT, UH, DASHBOARD NOW.

SO OVERALL, THE PROJECTS THAT WERE LISTED IN THE PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX, UM, THIS IS THE STARRED MAP THAT CHRISTIAN SHOWED YOU.

YOU CAN SEE THE SAME NOMENCLATURE OF THE BLUE, ORANGE, AND GREEN WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL NUMBERED.

YOU CAN SEE, UM, ON THAT MAP THERE WERE 38 AND THERE'S ALSO 38 ON OUR LIST.

IT TALKS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE.

SO IT SHOWS THE MULTIPLE IMPROVEMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, AT NUMBER ONE, UM, WHICH IS ADDISON ROAD AT THE HOSPITAL AND T UH, TCA, IT SHOWS THAT IN THE FUTURE WE CAN DO A CROSSING EVALUATION THERE THAT MIGHT NEED A PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON BECAUSE THERE'S TO BE A SHARED USE PATH THERE WITH A MARKED CROSSWALK AND CURB GRANTS.

WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD NEED PEDESTRIAN COUNTS AT THAT LOCATION.

UM, AND THEN THE FUNDING WOULD BE UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME BECAUSE THAT'S A FUTURE EVALUATION.

WE HAVE AN ALLOCATED FUNDING FOR THAT PROJECT.

BUT AS YOU GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT THIS, WE'VE MADE PRELIMINARY DETERMINATIONS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE THINK THERE'S PEDESTRIAN COUNTS THAT ARE NEEDED.

AND THEN WHAT FUNDING IS, UM, ALLOCATED WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS.

SO THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF THE SAME LIST SHOWING ALL 38 OF THE LOCATIONS OF THE STARS.

THE NEXT LIST THAT WE CREATED WAS THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN OR UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

YOU SEE THE LITTLE YELLOW BOX THAT'S A GROUP OF PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.

THE COTTON BELT TRAIL, UM, OR UNDER DESIGN, UM, QUORUM DRIVE, KELLER SPRINGS ROAD, MONTFORD AIRPORT, AND THE EAST TRAIL STUDY.

UM, THOSE ARE ALL A PART OF BOND OR PROJECTS THAT HAVE FUNDING ALLOCATED.

BUT THEN AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS LIST, THESE ARE ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT OUR TEAM IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON, WHETHER THEY'RE IN A CONSTRUCTION PHASE, A DESIGN PHASE OR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING, UH, FORWARD AS A PART OF THIS OVERALL FUNDING THAT WE HAVE.

YOU SEE ON HERE AT THE BOTTOM, SEVERAL HSIP PROJECTS, THAT HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

A COUPLE OF THEM ARE IN CONSTRUCTION PHASE AND A COUPLE OF THEM ARE IN DESIGN PHASE.

WHEN THOSE PROJECTS COME FORWARD, TXDOT DOES THOSE WITH A GROUP OF OTHER CITIES, UM, ALL TOGETHER, TYPICALLY TWO TO FIVE CITIES BECAUSE THEY GET ONE CONTRACTOR TO GO TO ALL THE DIFFERENT CITIES.

UM, SO YOU DO IT ANNUALLY AND ANNUALLY YOU'LL RECEIVE ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SUMMER IN CONSTRUCTION 'CAUSE THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE 25, UH, FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED.

YOU SEE THE ONES THAT ARE IN DESIGN, THOSE MIGHT BE THE 26 FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED.

SO ANNUALLY WE'RE MAKING THAT REQUEST AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMPLETED.

UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE ARE SEVERAL OF THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WHERE OVER TIME, UM, THROUGHOUT THE LAST SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS, OUR TEAM HAS BEEN MAKING IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE AREAS.

UM, THERE'S SOME CONCERNS THAT HAVE EITHER BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, AS I MENTIONED THROUGH FIX IT RESIDENTS, UM, MAYBE EVEN QUESTIONS THAT SOME OF YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR OUR TEAM.

AND SO WE WORK THROUGH TO COMPLETE THIS.

SO THIS IDEA OF THIS DASHBOARD IS TO GIVE US A VISUALIZATION OF THE AREAS OF WHICH WE WANT TO IMPROVE AND KEEP A RUNNING LIST SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHETHER THEY'RE IN DESIGN PHASE, CONSTRUCTION PHASE, IF THEY'VE BEEN COMPLETED OR NOT.

AND AS WE LOOK AT DOING OTHER PROJECTS AROUND TOWN, WE'RE USING THIS AS KIND OF A GUIDEBOOK.

SO I'M REALLY, REALLY LIKING THE DASHBOARD.

UM, THE NEXT STEPS, UM, IS TO CONTINUE TO RE UH, REVIEW, RECEIVE FEEDBACK, MONITOR THE REQUESTS THAT COME IN THROUGH TOWN.

WE GET THEM OFTEN.

UM, RECEIVE ANY FEEDBACK FROM YOU TODAY THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ON INCORPORATION OF COMMENTS INTO THE TOOLBOX.

THIS IS VERY FAST, BUT WE PLAN TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU NEXT TUESDAY.

UM, THE TOOLBOX FOR APPROVAL AND FORMAL ADOPTION, UM, AT THE NEXT TUESDAY COUNCIL MEETING.

AND THEN WE'LL WORK TO CONTINUE TO EXECUTE, UM, THE EXISTING PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE USING THE EXISTING BUDGETED AMOUNT.

UM, IF YOU RECALL, YOU PUT $150,000 IN THIS YEAR'S, UH, BUDGET FOR US TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE THOSE PROJECTS.

AND NOW THAT WE HAVE THE TOOLBOX AND WE HAVE THE FUNDING ALLOCATED, WE'RE READY TO, UH, CONTINUE SOME OF THE, THE WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN HAPPENING.

AND THEN WE'LL WORK TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING REQUESTS WE WANNA HAVE, UM, IF ANY THROUGH THE 27 BUDGET PROCESS.

SO I ANTICIPATE THIS BEING SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO ON A VERY CONTINUOUS BASIS SO THAT WE CAN WORK TO COMPLETE THIS LIST OR AS NEW ONES COME UP, LIKE THE FUTURE CROSSINGS, WE HAVE A BETTER ALLOCATION.

UM, SO WE KNOW WHAT FUNDING WAS NEEDED FOR THAT.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU BECKY.

AND THANK YOU CHRISTIAN.

UH, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, THEN I'LL GO TO MARLIN.

UM, OR IS THAT, IT? IS MARLON,

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UM, ON THE RFPS I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME, IF THEY'RE, ARE THEY MANUALLY ACTIVATED? ARE THEY BY SENSOR OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? YES, SO GOOD QUESTION.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY MANUALLY ACTIVATED, BUT WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY PILOTING THROUGH OUR SYSTEM, IF ARE SIGNS THAT ACTUALLY FLASH, KIND OF LIKE THE STOP SIGNS YOU SEE OUT AT MORRISON QUORUM WHERE THEY HAVE THE BLINKING, WE HAVE SOME CURRENTLY ON ORDERED FOR A PARTICULAR LOCATION THAT WE'RE GONNA BE INSTALLING NEAR AZURE, I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW YOU SAY THAT NAME.

UM, AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING TO INSTALL THOSE IN LOCATIONS WHERE WE CONTINUE TO GET, UM, CITIZEN COMMENT OR FEEDBACK OR CONCERNS THAT COME UP SO THAT IT DRAWS THE ATTENTION TO THE INDIVIDUAL WHO'S ACTUALLY COMING TO THAT LOCATION, UM, THAT MIGHT BE DRIVING INSTEAD OF, OF WALKING IN THAT AREA.

SO, UM, THEY ARE A PUSH BUTTON, A PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON AND A RECTANGULAR RAPID RECTANGULAR FLASHING BEACON.

I HAVE TO SAY IT'S SLOW, UM, BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO REMEMBER.

UM, THOSE ARE BOTH PUSH BUTTON, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE ARE PILOTING, UM, SOME NEW TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE 'EM WHERE THEY'RE MORE SENSORED.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL USE, UH, SPORADICALLY AS WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

HOW ARE THESE GONNA BE PRIORITIZED? UM, SO AS YOU SAW IN THE OVERALL PLAN, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT, UM, AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT CHRISTIAN KIND OF WENT THROUGH.

UM, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THE NEED AND THE NECESSITY, UM, OF THE PARTICULAR AREA AS WE WORK TO PRIORITIZE THOSE.

UM, WE'RE GONNA RANK 'EM BY RISK, UM, AND COMMUNITY BENEFIT.

AND SO A LOT OF THAT COMES TO HOW MANY MAY BE COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED IN THE AREA OR ISSUES THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY NOTICED OR REALIZED.

UM, SOME OF THEM WILL JUST TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY'RE A PART OF OVERALL BOND PROJECTS.

UM, BUT WE ARE VERY AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND TOWN AND AREAS OF WHICH WE SEE INDIVIDUALS HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME CROSSING ACROSS THE ROADWAY OR AREAS OF WHICH WE HEAR AS CONCERNS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE PLAN TO DO.

UM, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THE ONES THAT ARE ORANGE THAT ALREADY SHOW THAT THEY HAVE CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS MADE AND THEY NEED SOME MINOR CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS ADDED TO THEM TO BRING THEM UP TO SPEED.

THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT, UM, UH, CURRENTLY AS PROBABLY ONES THAT WE MIGHT LOOK TO FUND, UH, FASTER.

BUT OUR REALLY OUR GOAL IS TO ADOPT THIS SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE OVERALL PICTURE TO SEE HOW MANY THAT WE HAVE AND HOW WE CAN WORK TO COMPLETE THOSE.

I WAS HOPING YOU'D, YOU'D TELL ME THAT ON RANK, ON RISK AND I GET THE OTHER PART, MAYBE SOME, SOME ONES ARE GONNA BE EASIER, QUICKER FOR SURE.

SO, SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS TOOLBOX, MAYBE A YEAR FROM NOW, YOU, YOU'VE GOT THESE KIND OF NUMBERED STARTING AT THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN WORKING, WORKING SOUTH.

SO A YEAR FROM NOW WILL YOU SEE A LIST OF, I DON'T KNOW, 40, 45 AND, AND WE'VE GOT ONE AND TWO AND THREE COMPLETED, BUT NOT FIVE AND SIX.

IS THAT KIND OF WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE? SO THOSE NUMBERS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH, UM, RANK AT ALL.

THEY SIMPLY JUST HAVE TO DO WHAT THEY STARTED AT THE TOP OF THE MAP AND WENT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MAKE IT A SEQUENTIAL NUMBER.

THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE IN THAT DASHBOARD CORRESPOND TO THE STAR THAT'S ON THE MAP.

THAT'S THE ONLY, UH, CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO ITEMS. SO THEY'RE NOT PUT IN NUMBER ORDER YES SIR.

A YEAR FROM NOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU WOULD SEE WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO THEN? YES, YES, YES SIR.

AND, UH, AND DARREN, I DO SEE YOU RAISED HAND.

I'LL GET TO YOU HERE VERY SHORTLY.

THANK NO, YOU'RE YOU'RE UP RANDY.

THANK YOU SIR.

UH, JUST A COUPLE REAL QUICK ONES.

UM, YOUR CROSSWALKS, YOU HAD A PICTURE OF ONE OF OUR, OF A CROSSWALK UP THERE, AND TRADITIONALLY THOSE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN WHITE STRIPES.

UH, I AM SEEING SOME GREEN STRIPED CROSSWALKS IN TOWN NOW THOSE ARE ACTUALLY BIKE LANES.

WHATEVER THOSE LETTERS WERE, STATE, STATE APPROVED T UTC D YES SIR.

AND THAT YES SIR.

THAT THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING YOU CAN EXPLAIN.

YES, SIR.

UH, ABSOLUTELY.

WITH IN THE NEWS, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS TO BE THIS BIG DEAL WITH THESE COLORED CROSSWALKS.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THE STATES COME IN AND MADE 'EM REMOVE 'EM.

AND SO IS THE GREEN AN APPROVED COLOR FOR, FOR WHAT WE'RE USING AND WHAT WOULD BE OUR, DO WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO USE LIKE ADDISON BLUE FOR AQUA CROSSWALK COLOR EXAMPLE, OR, OR WHAT WOULD BE OUR PLAN GOING FORWARD TO STICK WITH THE WHITE OR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA BE EVALUATING AS WE LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS.

BUT WE WILL BE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW T-M-U-C-T-C-D, WHICH IS THE TEXAS MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE NEWS.

SOME THAT MAY BE, ARE PAINTED RAINBOW OR STRIPE OR HAVE A, A SYMBOL OF A SCHOOL, UM, IN THE METROPLEX, YOU'LL, YOU'RE SEEING THOSE REMOVED.

THOSE ARE THINGS THOUGH THAT WE WANT TO EVALUATE BECAUSE WE DO THINK THAT THERE IS SOME BENEFIT TO PROVIDING ADDITIONAL COLOR TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE IN ADDISON.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO DO THE EVALUATION.

YES, SIR.

AND THE GREEN IS AN APPROVED YES SIR.

UH,

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AGREEMENT IS APPROVED, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.

NO SIR.

THAT'S ACTUALLY THE COLOR THAT YOU USE FOR A BIKE LANE.

YES, SIR.

UM, YOU'VE MENTIONED REFUGE ISLAND A COUPLE OF TIMES.

CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH WHAT A REFUGE ISLAND IS? SURE.

SO IF THERE IS A ROADWAY THAT, UM, IN MANY CASES IS FOUR SIX LANE, A REFUGE ISLAND IS REALLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, IT'S A MEDIAN FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS, WHERE SOMEONE COULD GET CROSS TO THE MIDDLE AND THEN WOULD STAY AND THEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO ACROSS AFTER THERE'S OTHER, UH, CARS THAT HAVE PASSED.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD THINK IT IS.

YOU'RE, IT'S A REFUGE, A PLACE THAT YOU WOULD STAND AND BE PROTECTED.

UM, AND THEY'RE TYPICALLY WIDER.

SOMETIMES THEY HAVE DIFFERENT, UM, DISTANCES BETWEEN THEM.

UM, AND SO THAT WOULD BE A LOCATION, UH, BECAUSE ON SIGNAL TIMING, MANY TIMES YOU CAN'T GET ALL THE WAY ACROSS BECAUSE OF THE TIMING.

THAT'S A PART OF THE SIGNAL.

SO YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO GIVE YOURSELF A SPOT TO GET TO, TO BE SAFE AND STAND UNTIL YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO PASS.

I DUNNO IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT.

YEAH, I CAN ADD TO THAT.

SO WITH THE REFUGE ISLAND, YOU CAN EITHER CUT IT INTO AN EXISTING MEDIAN THAT YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE.

AND, AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU, YOU CUT A Z PATTERN IN IT, WHICH FORCES THE PEDESTRIAN TO ACTUALLY CROSS IN TWO STAGES.

MEANING THAT THEY CAN LOOK ONE DIRECTION ONLY, HAVE TO FOCUS ON THAT.

IT MAKES IT AN EASIER CROSSING FOR THE PE PEDESTRIAN.

THEN THEY CAN, THE Z FORCES THEM TO LOOK BACK AT TRAFFIC.

IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE TRICK.

AND THEN THAT WAY THEY CAN ONLY, UH, JUDGE THE ONE DIRECTION COMING AGAIN AND CROSS.

SO IT'S A, IT'S A SAFER CROSSING OPTION THAN JUST CROSSING ALL SIX LANES AT ONE TIME.

UM, OR IF YOU HAD JUST LIKE A TWO-WAY LEFT TURN LANE, YOU CAN INSTALL A SMALL MEDIAN ISLAND FOR THAT LOCATION IN PARTICULAR, YOU WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO HAVE LEFT TURNS.

SO THAT PROHIBITS VEHICLES FROM USING THAT TWO-WAY LEFT TURN LANE IN THAT SPECIFIC AREA.

BUT IT ALSO PROVIDES A, A MORE THAT SAFE PLACE FOR THE PEDESTRIAN STOP TO STOP HALFWAY THROUGH.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THEY WERE.

THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE EXPLANATION.

MY CONCERN WITH THEM IS THAT THAT ALSO BECOMES A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO LARGER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD POSSIBLY AND WITH THEIR CUPS IN HAND OR WHATEVER, UH, BUGGING DRIVERS.

SO SURE.

AS LONG AS WE ARE IN, AND WE ARE VERY GOOD AND ADDISON ABOUT ENFORCING THAT TODAY, I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT IT GOING FORWARD, UH, UH, AND KEEPING PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD DOING THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING.

UH, YOUR COMMENT'S VALID.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD ALWAYS TAKE INTO DESIGN CONSIDERATION AS WE WORK ON THESE PROJECTS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MAKES SENSE WE'RE USING IT FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE.

AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO THINK ABOUT ALL THE PARAMETERS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE THAT COME TO US DURING THE DESIGN.

SO I THINK WE'VE EVEN, WE'VE EVEN GONE SO FAR AS I'VE SEEN AROUND IN SOME OF THESE ISLANDS, TO START PUTTING THINGS THAT KIND OF PREVENT YOU FROM STANDING AND BEING COMFORTABLE STAYING THERE A LONG TIME.

IS THAT CORRECT? UM, WE HAVE HAD PROJECTS THAT HAVE, UM, ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE MEETINGS.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO LOOK GOING FORWARD TO TRY TO USE IT FOR THE PEDESTRIAN.

NOT FOR THE LAUER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

AND I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL DO WITH THAT.

HAPPY TO LISTEN TO, UM, KINDA IT LAST QUESTION, I PROMISE.

AROUND A LOT OF COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND AROUND SMALL AREAS, THEY HAVE, I DON'T WANNA USE, I DON'T WANNA USE THE TERM PANIC BUTTON, BUT THEY ARE POLICE CALL BUTTONS.

IF YOU'RE WALKING AND YOU GET, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FRIGHTENS YOU, YOU PUSH THE BUTTON.

HAVE WE EVER CONSIDERED DOING ANYTHING LIKE THAT AROUND TOWN FOR, YOU KNOW, ALONG OUR TRAILS, UH, AROUND AREAS WHERE PEOPLE ARE WALKING MAYBE IN THE EVENING AND AND DOING JUST FOR SAFETY EFFORT GOING FORWARD? SO AS A PART OF THE COTTON BELT TRAIL PROJECT, THERE WILL BE 9 1 1 STATIONS INSTALLED, UM, AS THAT OVERALL PROJECT.

UM, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE WORKS, THEY'RE MARKERS OF WHAT THEY'RE CALLED.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALWAYS EVALUATE.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CURRENT PLANS TO INSTALL THOSE, BUT I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.

I'M HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THAT.

I JUST BEEN HERE 26 YEARS AND I'VE WALKED MY TRAIL ALMOST EVERY DAY IN THOSE 26 YEARS WITH MY DOGS.

AND I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAILS THAT HAVE MARKERS ALONG 'EM, NOT A CALL BUTTON, BUT A MARKER TO WHERE IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE, IF YOU WERE TO HAVE TO CALL FOR HELP, YOU COULD KIND OF TELL 'EM I'M CLOSE TO THIS MARKER NUMBER.

KNOWN TO THEM AS THEY ARE TO ME.

I HAVE HAD TO CALL SEVERAL TIMES ON OUR TRAILS.

AND IT, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I THINK THAT ARE WELL KNOWN ON OUR TRAILS THAT OUR DISPATCHERS AND MAYBE FIRST RESPONDERS, THEY'RE NOT AS WELL

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JUST ANOTHER QUESTION, HAVE WE CONSIDERED PUTTING ANYTHING ALONG OUR TRAILS TO KIND OF GIVE A, UH, A, A POSITION FOR US TO REPORT? YOU KNOW, I'M HAVING A HEART ATTACK AND THE LAST ONE I SAW WAS NUMBER 12 OR SOMETHING.

I DUNNO.

SO, UM, I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT AND VALID POINT.

I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE COULDN'T ADD TO A GIS LAYER.

UM, THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY GPS THE LOCATIONS OF THOSE MARKERS AND HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S READILY ACCESSIBLE FOR BOTH FIRE AND POLICE.

SO, GREAT COMMENT.

THANKS FOR BRINGING IT UP.

IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE CRITICISM.

IT'S JUST NO, I, I UNDERSTAND.

UM, AND I WANNA CLARIFY ON THE COTTON BELT TRAIL, IT'S GOING TO BE THE MARKERS.

NOW THERE WILL BE SOME STATIONS THROUGHOUT ON THE COTTON BELT TRAIL THAT WILL ACTUALLY HAVE THE CALL.

UM, BUT ON WHAT, WHAT THE TOWN OF ADDISON IS CURRENTLY DOING, IS, IS THE MARKER WITH YOUR OKAY.

YES SIR.

I WAS JUST THINKING IN THE CIRCLE AREA THERE, THERE'S SEVERAL PLACES IN TOWN THAT ARE WALKABLE AND PEOPLE WALK IN THE EVENINGS AND I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I LIKE IDEA FOOD FOR FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

UH, YEAH, SO I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE TOOLBOX AND THE CRITERIA AND, UM, SELECTION AND EXECUTION.

I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S REALLY, UH, WELL STRUCTURED.

SO GREAT JOB.

GLAD TO SEE IT.

UM, I ALSO, UH, ON THE PROJECTS UNDER DESIGNER CONSTRUCTION SLIDE, UM, I PUT IN A COUPLE OF FIX IT APPS, UH, REQUESTS.

AND I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THAT BOTH OF THOSE ARE ON HERE.

SO IT'S AZURE, UM, LANE AND, UH, REDDING TRAIL CROSSING AND THEN THE LOCKS AND WATERSIDE CROSSING.

SO, UH, GREAT JOB.

ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS ABOUT HOW TO CAPTURE THESE AND YOU DID COVER THAT, UH, FROM CITIZEN INPUT AND ACTUALLY SEEING, UH, FIXIT APP GET ONTO THIS LIST.

UM, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED TO SEE THAT IT'S SO GREAT JOB ON THE MAP.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP, UM, SLIDE? YES SIR.

AS WE'RE REVIEWING KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE ANNUAL REVIEWS OR QUARTERLY REVIEWS OF PROGRESS OF THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, UM, I WOULD LIKE MAYBE TO ADD A GRAY STAR OR SOMETHING THAT DOES CALL ATTENTION TO WHAT WE DID IN THE LAST YEAR.

UH, THAT WAY WE CAN SEE WHICH ONES ARE MARKED OFF THE LIST OR SOME SORT OF INDICATION, MAYBE A A A CIRCLE OR A BLUE DOT OR SOMETHING.

UM, AND THAT'S MY, MY ONLY OTHER FEED.

ONE OTHER QUESTION.

UH, HOW FAR DOES $150,000 GO? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY EVALUATING.

SO AS WE GET THIS PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX ADOPTED, UM, WE'RE GONNA START LOOKING AT THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT WE FEEL LIKE NEED TO BE IMPLE IMPLEMENTED BASED ON RISK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN GET IMPROVED.

STRIPING IS, IS MUCH MORE REASONABLE THAN BUILDING AN RFB OR A PHB.

IT WOULD TAKE PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING, IF NOT MORE, TO BUILD THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO, UM, THAT'S PART OF THE EVALUATION WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH ONCE WE GET THIS COMPLETED.

SO I, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE KIND OF A, A, A ROUGH PRICE TAG ON THESE DIFFERENT ITEMS, UH, AS WE GO THROUGH SOME REAL IMPLEMENTATION.

AND DARREN, I WOULD ADD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE FUNDING SOURCE, SO IT'S NOT ALL GONNA BE JUST BUDGET REQUESTS FROM THE GENERAL FUND EACH YEAR.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT MONTFORD AND QUORUM, THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY GONNA BE UPDATED AS WE DO THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS THROUGH THE BONDS.

WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO GO FOR GRANTS AS WE GET GRANT FUNDING, WE'RE GONNA LEAN INTO THOSE FOR THESE.

SO, UM, IT'S 150,000 TO GET THOSE ONES THAT WE DON'T CATCH IN OTHER FUNDING SOURCES AND WE'LL COME BACK.

SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT JUST, HEY, WE'LL COME BACK 150,000 EVERY YEAR.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE A NUMBER OF FUNDING SOURCES TO TRY TO TRY TO TACKLE THIS, BUT THIS HELPS US FRAME ALL OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND SEE HOW WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THEM.

GOOD.

GOOD POINT.

UM, WELL I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

VERY GOOD, THANKS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE THEN.

SO, UM, THE POINT YOU JUST MADE ABOUT, AND I WROTE IT DOWN, THE MARKERS, WERE THOSE FEDERALLY FUNDING FOR COTTONWOOD, THE COTTONWOOD TRAIL? OR IS THAT CITY FUNDED? UM, I'M GONNA BE COMPLETELY HONEST WITH YOU, THIS IS A PROJECT I'VE JUST LEARNED ABOUT IN THE LAST WEEK THAT I'M WORKING, UM, WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ON.

UM, AS WE'RE WORKING ON A TRANSITION, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT I BELIEVE IS A PART OF THE PARKS BUDGET THAT'S GONNA BE DOING THOSE INSTALLATION OF THOSE MARKERS ALONG THE COTTON BELT TRAIL.

BUT I CAN GET BACK WITH YOU BECAUSE I'M LEARNING AS FAST AS I CAN ABOUT ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS.

I JUST THINK ABOUT THE REDING TRAIL AND, AND ITS SIGNIFICANCE TO ADDISON IN TERMS OF BEING SPREAD OUT IN A SPRAWLING PROJECT.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING IF IT WAS FEDERALLY FUNDED OR IF IT WAS TOWN FUNDED.

IT'S 'CAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT ON THE RUNNING TRAIL.

ESPECIALLY KNOWING THE AGE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WALKING OR RUNNING OR JOGGING OR BIKING THROUGH THAT PATH, ESPECIALLY WITH THEIR DOGS.

OH, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

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AND DARREN'S GREAT POINTS AND RANDY'S GREAT POINTS ON, I'VE ASKED THIS BEFORE, BUT ON BELTWAY I SEE NOTHING COMING IN TERMS OF ANY FUTURE, AT LEAST AS IF THIS IS A ONE YEAR OUT PROJECT WITH ALL THE GROWTH OF THAT AREA OF THE GROVE OPENING, THE CADENCE COMING, THE TREE HOUSE COMING, THERE'S NO POTENTIAL FOR IMPROVING, ESPECIALLY PAINTING THE ROADS AT LAGRAND IN BELTWAY AND FURTHER DOWN.

UM, SIR, I'M ALREADY WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

UM, I HAVE A PROJECT THAT IS, UM, A PAINTING PROJECT THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN, UH, ALREADY APPROVED TO DO.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO BELTWAY SPECIFICALLY AT SURVEYOR, UM, ALONG BELTWAY.

AND THEN THERE WILL BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS MADE AT THE, UM, INTERSECTION WHERE THE TOWN HOMES ARE, BECAUSE WHAT'S CURRENTLY OUT THERE NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT DOWN TO THE NEWEST STANDARD, UM, TO BE ABLE TO CROSS THE ROADWAY, UM, AT LA GRAND BECAUSE IT IS A STOP SIGN.

THAT'S NOT A TYPICAL LOCATION THAT YOU PUT A CROSSWALK, IT JUST HAS THE WORD STOP LISTED IN THAT LOCATION.

UM, BUT THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE EVALUATING WITH OUR CURRENT PAINTING PROJECT THAT WE HAVE ONGOING.

SO IF IT'S JUST A PAINTING PROJECT, IT SHOULDN'T SHOW UP AS A STAR? NO, SIR.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A STAR ON THIS MAP, BUT IT IS LOCATED ON MY OTHER PART OF THE LIST.

UM, SO IT'S, AND THAT GETS A LITTLE CONFUSING.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT LIST.

IT'S ALL ON ONE DASHBOARD.

THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT THE CONSULTANT CAME UP WITH US, UM, FOR US.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONGOING THAT WE'VE HEARD EITHER THROUGH FIX IT, CITIZEN REQUEST, UM, INPUT THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM RESIDENTS, ET CETERA, THAT'S WHAT WE DEVELOPED THE OTHER LIST FOR.

AND SO IT IS LOCATED ON THAT PROJECT.

WONDERFUL.

AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION QUICKLY.

UM, SO MY, I STILL SEE IT.

UM, I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE SINCE 2019, BUT I SEE IT REPEATEDLY, ESPECIALLY ON BUSIER WEEKENDS WITH RENAISSANCE GUESTS OR HOTEL GUESTS TRYING TO MAKE THEIR WAY ACROSS THE DNT.

IT IS SO POORLY LIT.

IS THAT PROJECT NUMBER ONE IN TERMS OF PRIORITY, IS THAT SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OR IS THAT SORT OF AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STACK FOR KIMLEY HORN TO ANSWER? SURE.

LIGHTING, LIGHTING AT BELT LINE IN THE DALLAS HALLWAY NORTH.

LIGHTING WAS IDENTIFIED.

UM, WE, ARE WE WORKING ON IT? IT WOULD BE THE, WOULD THAT BE THE NORTHWEST CORNER? YEAH, SO WE CURRENTLY ARE WORKING AT BELTLINE, UM, AND UH, THE DALLAS NORTH TOLE WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND HAVE AN EVALUATION THAT WE'RE DOING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE NOT ONLY LIGHTING BUT ALSO STRIPING AND IMPROVING THAT CROSSING TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR FOLKS TO, OR TO FEEL MORE SAFE TO BE ABLE TO CROSS FROM THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN TO THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.

YEAH, LIGHT LIGHTING IS, HAS BEEN AN ISSUE.

I'VE SEEN IT FOR YEARS.

AND BRANDY AND YOU BRUCE, YOU GUYS WOULD KNOW MORE THAN I WOULD KNOW, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S ROCKER AGAIN ON, ON ON CERTAIN NIGHTS ENTER YOUR OWN RISK AND GOOD LUCK GETTING ACROSS BECAUSE IT'S STILL DIMLY LIT.

I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT HIS PAINT AS MUCH AS I AM LIGHTING.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT YEAH, AND LIGHTING ACTUALLY CAME UP AS A PART OF, UM, WHEN WE TOOK THIS TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

UM, AND ALSO YOU ALSO BROUGHT IT UP WHEN YOU SAW IT THE LAST TIME.

SO WE ADDED IT AS AN ADDITIONAL, UM, ONE OF THE LITTLE CIRCLES THAT YOU SEE.

UM, IT WAS ALREADY IN THE TOOLBOX BUT IT WASN'T CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY.

SO WE'VE ADDED THAT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ANOTHER TOOL THAT IS EASILY TO BE GRABBED AND, AND DO IMPROVEMENTS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU HOWARD.

MINE'S VERY SPECIFIC.

DID YOU SAY THE COLORS ON THESE STARS RELATE BACK TO THE COLOR CODES ON THE LIST OF 38 PROJECTS? YES SIR.

WILL YOU LOOK AT NUMBER 16 AND 16 IS I THINK RIGHT IN FRONT OF GALAXY FBO.

AM I RIGHT? YES SIR.

SO HERE IT'S GREEN AND THERE IT'S ORANGE.

IS IT IN THE, I MEAN IN THE STARS I THINK IT'S ORANGE.

IS IT IN THE WORKS? I ONLY, I'M ASKING 'CAUSE I HAPPENED TO CROSS THAT ONE TWICE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

SO HAVE I? YES SIR, I HAVE TO.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE.

I JUST NOTICED A DIFFERENCE ON THAT.

IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC.

SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO NO, THAT IS ACTUALLY, UM, A PROPOSED NEW CROSSING.

SO THAT'S JUST AN ERROR ON THE COLOR ON THE MAP THAT YOU FOUND FOR US.

SO THANK YOU.

THE STAR SHOULD HAVE BEEN GREEN.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

FOR US NOW IS THE CROSSWALK.

WELL I DON'T MEAN TO BE SO PICKY, I JUST NO, YOU'RE FINE.

THEY WERE RELATED.

THOSE TWO DIDN'T MATCH.

OH WELL BECKY, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TIME YOU'RE PUTTING ON THIS PROJECT.

I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

I'M EXCITED THAT WE'VE GOT THIS TOOLBOX.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT FUNDING.

I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT THAT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL HAVE SEVERAL SOURCES MOVING FORWARD.

UM, I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THINGS LIKE LIGHTING, SHADE FURNITURE, BUS STOPS, AND PUBLIC ART ADDRESSED IN IT AS WELL.

IT'S VERY THOROUGH AND I LIKE THAT.

AND UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH THE TRAIL SYSTEM AND PUTTING IN, YOU KNOW, THE 10 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALKS AS OFTEN AS WE CAN.

UH, I JUST, I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY

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SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE YOU HAVE SOME OF THESE AT YOUR DISPOSAL.

UM, AND JUST MY LAST QUESTION IS, I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY GREAT PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE HIGHLIGHTED.

UM, THE ONE THAT I DIDN'T SEE THAT I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO THINK ABOUT IS BELTWAY GETTING ACROSS MIDWAY.

UM, AS THE WEATHER IS WARMING UP, I'M SEEING A LOT OF FOLKS TRYING TO WALK TO ZOLA'S TO THE LONDONER AND VICE VERSA FROM THE HOTELS TO LIKE NATE'S, UH, RODEO GOAT AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT ON THE LIST, SO I'M HOPING WE CAN ADD THAT.

HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THAT AND I THINK THAT'S A VALID POINT FOR SURE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK CHRIS DAN FOR CLARIFICATION.

CHRIS, WHAT, WHAT'S MISSING AT THAT? I KNOW EXACTLY THE SIDEWALK.

WHAT'S MISSING IN YOUR OPINION AT THAT CROSSWALK OR THAT CROSSING? WELL, I THINK I USE IT ALL THE TIME.

I THINK THE, I THINK THE CROSSWALK GETTING FROM GETTING ACROSS MIDWAY NEEDS ATTENTION.

IT NEEDS MORE LIGHTING.

THAT MIGHT BE SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU, YOU CREATE ONE OF THOSE ISLANDS, UM, ALL THE PAINT THERE HAS BEEN WORN AWAY.

I JUST THINK WE CAN IMPROVE IT AND TURN IT INTO SOMETHING A LOT BETTER.

LIKE THAT LITTLE MIDWAY POINT OR THE HALFWAY POINT.

EXACTLY.

'CAUSE I'VE EVEN GOT CAUGHT THERE.

THANK YOU CHRIS, FOR CLARIFYING.

IS THAT NOT ONE OF THE PLACES THAT, THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE GREEN STRIPES WERE THE BIKE LANE GOING ACROSS MIDWAY THERE? YES SIR.

THAT IS WHERE ARE THOSE NOT USED AS A DUAL PURPOSE FOR BIKE AND WALKING OR? NO SIR.

THOSE ARE BOTH JUST BIKE LANE.

GOTCHA.

WELL THEN I WOULD AGREE WITH CHRIS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THERE TO GET THE WALKERS ACROSS.

I HAD ASSUMED THAT THAT WOULD KIND OF COVER BOTH IN, IN THOSE INSTANCES.

MAYBE WE PUT A WHITE GREEN, WHITE GREEN .

ALRIGHT.

IN THE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS? ALRIGHT, BECKY, THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY CHRISTIAN.

APPRECIATE THANKS.

ALRIGHT, VERY

[c. Present and discuss rates for Addison Orbit.]

GOOD.

MOVE ON TO ITEM, UH, FOUR B, UH, PRESENTED DISCUSS RATES FOR ADDISON ORBIT.

THAT'LL BE ASHLEY CC IS, WHAT DID I SAY? WE JUST DID C OH, IT IS FOUR C.

SO THIS WAS A, UH, A COUNCIL REQUEST AND AS WE'VE STARTED TO DO, WE WILL ALLOW THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO REQUESTED IT TO MAKE ANY COMMENT.

SO, UM, MARLON OR DAN IF YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING BEFORE THE ITEM? YES, SIR.

UM, YEAH, DAN AND I, UH, WANTED TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA.

AS I ALLUDED TO IN OUR LAST MEETING, I, I JUST BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD START OUT WITH FARES, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS PRODUCT LAUNCHING DURING, UM, THE, THE TIMEFRAME OF THE ELECTION.

UM, AND SO, UM, DAN AND I BASICALLY, UH, AGREED THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOME FARES AND, AND BE VERY, VERY AFFORDABLE.

UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR THEM TO GET ON A ANOTHER PRIVATE SERVICE.

JUST TO RE JUST TO REITERATE WITH THE, WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE TEST ON THE TRANSIT COMING, UM, WE KEEP BEING ASKED FOR MORE FACTS AND MORE INFORMATION ABOUT ALL SIDES OF THE TRANSPORTATION CONVERSATION.

SO THIS WAS A REASON WHY I WANTED TO SUPPORT THAT.

LET'S JUST GET THE FACTS OUT THERE IN THE OPEN WHAT THE RATES WOULD LOOK LIKE INSTEAD OF IT BEING A BIG QUESTION MARK THAT WE'RE NOT PREPARED.

THANK YOU ASHLEY.

OKAY, SO WITH THAT, UH, WE WERE ASKED TO GO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR REGIONAL SERVICES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

SO WE LOOKED AT DART ARLINGTON WITH THEIR VIA CONTRACT, DCTA AND TRINITY METRO.

SO HERE WE'RE SHOWING ADULT AFFAIRS, UH, ONE WAY THEIR SENIOR FAIR PARATRANSIT AND THEN IF THEY HAVE A MONTHLY PASS OR A REGIONAL PASS.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NOTICED TODAY WHILE DOING SOME RESEARCH THAT'S NOT LISTED ON HERE IS, UH, THERE IS A REGIONAL PASS THAT IS OFFERED.

IT'S A DAILY REGIONAL PASS THAT'S $9 THAT ALLOWS YOU TO USE, UH, DART DCTA AND TRINITY METRO.

SO YOU CAN GO, YOU CAN BASICALLY USE ANY OF THEIR EITHER BUS LINES, RAIL LINES, UH, WITHIN ONE DAY AND IT'S $9.

SO THAT IS NOT LISTED ON HERE.

WHAT IS LISTED IS THE, UH, MONTHLY REGIONAL PASS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A DAILY.

SO WITH THAT, UM, I'LL LET YOU, I'LL GO BACK HERE AND LET YOU TALK ABOUT FEES AND WHAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO.

WE'LL BRING AN ORDINANCE BACK AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING NEXT TUESDAY TO, UM, SOLIDIFY THOSE FEES, DAN.

THANK YOU ASHLEY.

SO QUICK QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.

YOU MENTIONED IT LIGHTLY ABOUT THE REGIONAL PASS.

CAN YOU DEFINE THAT REGIONAL PASS? BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ASKED, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO GET ON A OUR PRODUCT YES.

TO THE ORBIT PRODUCT AND NOT PAY A SECONDARY FEE? NO.

SO, UH, THE REGIONAL PASS

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SO LIKE THEY CAN'T GO FROM TRINITY METRO TO ARLINGTON'S VIA, THEY HAVE A SEPARATE FEE FOR THAT.

IT WOULD BE THE SAME FOR US.

SO YOU WOULD PAY WHATEVER THAT FAIR IS THAT COUNCIL DECIDES, LET'S SAY IT'S $3, THAT WILL TAKE THEM TO A MORE THAN LIKELY A DART PRODUCT.

THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR $9 REGIONAL PASS AND FROM THERE THEY COULD GO UP TO DCTA, THEY COULD GO OVER TO THE TRA TO TRINITY METRO.

UM, ALL OF THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED WITH THAT $9.

BUT THEY WOULD STILL NEED TO PAY WHATEVER FARE WE SET FOR ADDISON ORBIT.

VIA AND THEY EXPLAINED EVERYTHING, I, I THOUGHT DURING THAT MEETING THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

DARREN, SO CAN YOU BRING UP THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS? YOU MAY WANNA COME BACK TO THAT QUESTION.

I DON'T MIND.

IF YOU WANNA WIPE , CAN HE, COULD HIS VOLUME BE TURNED UP A LITTLE BIT? YES.

TEST, TEST.

WE'RE JUST TURNING UP THE VOLUME A LITTLE BIT.

DARREN, I'M GIVING YOU A TEST SO THAT YOU CAN SEE HOW LOUD IT'S, SO THANK YOU FOR, UH, BRINGING THAT UP.

SO SCROLL DOWN.

UM, ON THIS, MY, MY, YOU KNOW, PART OF MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS SOMEBODY THAT'S COMING INTO ADDISON, UH, SAY THEY, UH, THEY WORK AT ONE OF THE HOTELS MAYBE.

UM, AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY PRICE SENSITIVE, UH, SPEND SENSITIVE.

UH, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, COMING FROM GARLAND OR SOME OTHER PLACE AND THEN COMING TO ADDISON.

NOW, WHILE THEY MAY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, CHANGE BUS ONE TIME OR LESS, UH, OR WALK A COUPLE THOUSAND FEET FOR THEIR FINAL DESTINATION PICK, GETTING PICKED UP BY EDISON ORBIT WOULD TAKE THEM STRAIGHT TO WHERE THEY GO.

THAT'S NICE.

UM, BUT IT'S, IF IT'S AN ADDITIONAL FEE, I'M, I'M SENSITIVE TO THAT.

SO, UH, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO USE THESE AS EXAMPLES.

'CAUSE IF YOU GO TO DENTON, YOU CAN DO IT ALL ON THE GO.

UH, GO PASS, IT'S ALL INTEGRATED.

IT TAKES YOU THROUGH ANOTHER AGENCY, WHICH IS DCTA AND IT SHOWS YOU THE WHOLE ROUTE.

AND THIS IS REALLY A GOOD ILLUSTRATION FOR WHAT ADDISON ORBIT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

IDENTICAL, ACTUALLY.

SO MY QUESTION IS, IS IS IT POSSIBLE TO, TO WITH, UM, VIA IF THEY'RE STARTING SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEY PAY THE FAIR TO DART AND THEY END UP HERE, THAT OUR FAIR IS, IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE? I I WOULD HAVE TO, I'D HAVE TO ASK ABOUT THAT.

NOW WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE HAVE ASKED ABOUT IS DOING SOME, WORKING WITH OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.

IN EACH LOCAL BUSINESS, WE COULD HAVE A SPECIAL CODE FOR THEM SO THAT THEY COULD GET TO THEIR EMPLOYEES.

AND AS A BENEFIT TO THAT BUSINESS, THAT EMPLOYEE COULD PUT THAT CODE IN AND EITHER HAVE A REDUCED FARE TO EITHER A SMALLER AMOUNT OR FREE.

SO, UH, LET'S SAY WE HAD ACME BRICK HERE THAT WANTED TO DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAJORITY OF THEIR EMPLOYEES CAME FROM OUTSIDE OF, OF ADDISON AND THEY USE SOME SORT OF PUBLIC TRANSIT.

WE COULD GIVE THEM A, UH, A SPECIFIC CODE THAT THEY COULD USE THAT WOULD GIVE THEM A DIFFERENT RATE THAT WE COULD DO FOR BUSINESSES.

UH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT, UH, AT THE END OF THAT SIX MONTHS, WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THE USAGE AND WHAT THOSE BUSINESSES ARE, WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT, I, UH, WE HAVE OUR WEEKLY CALL TOMORROW.

I CAN SEE IF THERE'S A WAY, UM, IT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT, BUT WE COULD, WE COULD SEE IF THERE WAS A WAY I I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD INTEGRATE NECESSARILY WITH THE REGIONAL PASS BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ACCEPTANCE THROUGH DART TRA OR TRINITY METRO AND DCTA.

BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN ASK.

YEAH, I'M SURE VIA CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.

UM, IT'S, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW WE WANT TO DEFINE IT.

AND, AND THE ALTERNATE, UM, WAY TO GET TO THE SAME RESULT THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, GIVING PASSES TO THE, UH, UH, RIDERS THAT RIDE THROUGH THE BUSINESSES THEY WORK AT OR IF THEY'RE INDEPENDENT, UH, THROUGH THAT AS WELL.

I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY, YOU KNOW, A RIDER, UH, LOWER INCOME FRIENDLY, UM, APPROACH TO GET TO THE SAME, THAT SAME RESULT OF NOT, NOT CHARGING THE RIDERS THAT COME IN HERE TO ADDISON, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY NOT BE MAKING A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY TO BEGIN WITH, NOT CHARGING THEM TWICE.

SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A KIND OF A CONVERSATION AS, AS WELL AS THIS QUESTION.

SO IF YOU WOULD FIND OUT WHAT VIA CAN DO, I SURE WILL.

I WOULD, WHEN WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING WITH

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ONE, I THOUGHT WE SAID THAT THE PRICE WE'RE PAYING TO VIA IS A PER HOUR RATE MM-HMM .

AND THAT THIS IS THE COST NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE WRITE IT, IF THEY'RE, IF IT'S A LOT OF USAGE, A LITTLE BIT OF IT DOESN'T MATTER, WE'RE PAYING THE SAME THING TO VIA.

AND THAT IF WE CHARGE THE FEE, THE FEE WOULD COME BACK TO ADDISON TO OFFSET PART OF OUR COST.

THAT IS TRUE.

SO WE REALLY COULD CHOOSE NOT TO CHARGE A FEE OR WE COULD CHARGE A FEE.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS THAT IN THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT I ALSO THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT IF THROUGH GO PASS A, A RESIDENT, EITHER ADDISON RESIDENT OR OUTSIDE ADDISON RESIDENT WAS USING THE SERVICE AND COMBINING WITH OURS THAT THE FEE WOULD BE JUST THE DART FEE AND IT WOULD GO TO DART AND ADDISON WOULD NOT COLLECT A FEE IN THAT CASE.

DID I DREAM THAT? YEAH, NO.

UM, SO WITH GO PASS, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PAY ALL OF IT AT ONE TIME THROUGH GO PASS.

SO LET'S SAY WE CHARGED A $3 FEE, YOU'RE GOING TO BUY THE $9 REGIONAL DAY PASS.

UM, IT WOULD CHARGE YOU THE $12.

DID I DO THAT RIGHT? RIGHT.

YEP.

12.

THE $12 WE WOULD GET OUR THREE, THE REGIONAL PASS WOULD GO OVER HERE, BUT YOU COULD DO IT ALL TOGETHER THROUGH THE ONE GO PASS APP.

BUT WE WOULD STILL CHARGE OUR FEE.

DART WOULD NOT GET THAT FEE.

SO I, I GUESS I'M, I MISUNDERSTOOD THEN.

I THOUGHT WE CHARGE A $3 FEE IN ADDISON AND A UH, A CITIZEN PAYS THE $3.

IF THEY STAY IN ADDISON AND ONLY USE VIA LOCALLY IN ADDISON, THEN IT'S JUST $3.

$3 GOES TO ADDISON.

I THOUGHT IF THEY GO ON TO DART, IT'S STILL JUST THE $3.

NO, YOU'RE SAYING NOW IT'S $6.

I THOUGHT IT WAS $3 AND THE THREE WOULD GO TO DART AND ADDISON WOULD GET ZERO OUT OF THAT.

FAIR.

THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

SO I THINK WHERE THERE WAS CONFUSED IS, SO IF YOU ARE TAKING, IF YOU'RE GONNA TAKE A ONE WAY, MORE THAN LIKELY A ONE-WAY BUS TRIP, THAT'S $3.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE $3 IS COMING IN.

SO LET'S SAY WE'RE, I'M TAKING A ONE WAY BUS TRIP THAT WOULD BE $3.

THE $9 REGIONAL PASS IS YOU'RE GONNA TAKE MULTIPLE TRAINS, MULTIPLE BUS LINES, YOU'RE GONNA CROSS BETWEEN DCTA OR TRINITY METRO OR THE TRA.

SO I THINK WHERE YOU'RE, WHERE YOU'RE REMEMBERING THAT $3 WAS LIKE A SINGLE FARE ON A DART BUS.

WELL, I KNEW THAT IT WAS $3 ON DART.

I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN ADDISON.

'CAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CHARGING VERSUS NOT CHARGING.

AN ACCOUNT THAT HAS A BALANCE ON IT, A CREDIT BALANCE OF $50 OR A HUNDRED DOLLARS, SOMETHING THAT'S RECHARGED EACH YEAR.

THAT DISCUSSION CAME UP.

I, I THOUGHT THE SOLUTION WAS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A VIA QUESTION OR IF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER THAT LET'S SAY WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT REGIONAL, WE JUST WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FOR THREE, I THINK THE $3 IS A THREE HOUR PASS.

YOU CAN GO THERE AND COME BACK IF YOU CAN DO IT IN THREE HOURS, IT ONLY COSTS $3.

BUT I THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD CHARGE THE FAIR HERE, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE USING THAT GO PASS, I JUST, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION DART GETS THE MONEY, OR IN THIS CASE MAYBE THE REGION GETS THE $9, ADDISON GETS ZERO.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF HAVING SOMEONE PAY TWICE.

SO I WOULD LIKE, IF WE'RE PAYING A FLAT RATE REGARDLESS OF WHO RIDES IT, I'M FINE WITH A $3 FARE IF THEY STAY IN ADDISON AND ONLY PAY $3.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE PAY FOR DART ANYWAY.

BUT IF WE'RE GONNA CONNECT, IF THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A $3 FARE TOTAL AND ADDISON WOULD A ZERO ON THAT FARE AND THAT DART WOULD GET THE $3 AND IF IT'S NOW A $9 FARE, SAME THING, THEY GET THE $9.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO OFFSET OUR COST IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE THE COST OF FEE COMPARED TO THE COST OF BEING IN DART IS SO MUCH LESS.

IT'S, I I DON'T WANT THE RIDERS PENALIZED, AT LEAST NOT THE ONES THAT, THAT ARE COMING INTO ADDISON TO WORK OR THAT LIVE HERE THAT ARE USING IT.

I, I DUNNO ABOUT GOING THROUGH ADDISON, THAT MAY BE A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE.

BUT TO MAKE IT SIMPLE, I JUST THOUGHT WE COLLECT THE $3.

IF IT'S ONLY THE WHOLE RIDE STARTS AND STOPS IN ADDISON, BUT IF IT GOES OUTSIDE, WE FOREGO THE FEE.

IS THAT POSSIBLE? SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IF I'M UNDERSTANDING IT CORRECTLY, IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO A RALLY POINT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO, OR COMING FROM A RALLY POINT NOT TO CHARGE A FEE, RIGHT.

BUT IF YOU'RE JUST CRUISING AROUND ADDISON AND YOU'RE WANTING TO GO FROM VOP SOMEWHERE TO CHARGE, WELL I THINK THAT WOULD BE FAIR.

I DON'T WANT PEOPLE CHARGED TWICE AND SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP A SUGGESTION AND, AND, UM, IT WAS THAT ADDISON RESIDENCE MAYBE GET SOME SORT OF A PASS OR A CODE WHERE THEY COULD HAVE A, A A,

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AND THAT, THAT THESE PEOPLE, THE ADDISON PEOPLE, SINCE THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING THE TAXES AND THE TAXES ARE PAYING FOR THIS SERVICE, THAT THEY COULD USE THAT A FEW TIMES A YEAR UNTIL THEIR ACCOUNTS USED UP AND BASICALLY THEY WOULDN'T PAY IF THEY WERE JUST GOING, YOU KNOW, 10, 15 TIMES A YEAR.

IT WOULDN'T COST ANYTHING.

I, I MEAN IT'S GETTING MORE COMPLICATED, BUT SINCE WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FARES IN, IN MY CONVERSATIONS IN CAMPAIGNING AND WHATNOT.

I'M GETTING ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE THE CORRECT ANSWER AND I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD IT, THAT IT DOESN'T COST AN ADDISON IF YOU'RE CONNECTING TO DART.

DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON THAT? I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT FARES YET.

THIS IS OUR FIRST CONVERSATION TO HAVE FULLY ON FAIRES, AND YOU'RE REALLY ASKING THE SAME QUESTION DARREN'S ASKING AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN GO BACK WITH VIA, I THINK VIA IS GONNA BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO BE ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE A PRICE BASED ON WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

SO I HAVE A FEELING WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THAT, BUT YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY ASKING THE SAME THING THAT DARREN'S ASKING SO WE CAN GET THAT ANSWER AND SEE, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AND WE CAN HAVE IT BY NEXT WEEK.

OF COURSE.

WELL THAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING.

I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE CHARGED DOUBLE FARES.

SO JUST FOR DIRECTION.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON IT.

RANDY, THANK YOU.

UH, KIND OF CLEARED UP ONE OF MY QUESTIONS 'CAUSE I, I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY YOU WERE GONNA HAVE TO PAY TWICE AND IN THE VIA PRESENTATION THROUGH THE GO PASS, YOU JUST PAY ONCE, BUT YOU'RE BASICALLY PAYING DUE TWO DIFFERENT FARES.

IT SO IT, IT'S ONLY A ONE, YOU PUSH ONE BUTTON AND YOU GO WHEREVER YOU WANT TO GO.

I WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR.

UM, EVEN THOUGH IF YOU GOT ON DART, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS IF WE DID HAVE A FAIR, THEN SOME OF THAT MONEY THAT THEY WERE PAYING DART WOULD COME BACK TO ADDISON IN THE FORM OF A FAIR IF, IF WE DID HAVE A FAIR ON THAT.

UM, SO JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, ONE BUTTON GO PAST, IT'S A ONE CLICK THING, YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO GET OFF AND THEN GO BACK IN AND AND REPAY AGAIN.

PAY CASH AGAIN.

UM, AND HOWARD MUST HAVE STOLE ONE OF MY IDEAS.

UH, UH, I, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE, I, I AM MORE CON I THINK DARREN WAS TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN.

I AM MORE CONCERNED WITH ADDISON RESIDENTS.

UH, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE ADDISON RESIDENTS, AS HOWARD SAID, THAT ALREADY ARE PAYING TAXES HERE AND LIVING HERE HAVE SOME KIND OF CODE.

WHETHER IT IS A MONTHLY PASS OF X NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, $20 A MONTH ON A, ON A CODE OR A, A YEARLY, WHATEVER THAT HAPPENS TO BE.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE ADDISON RESIDENCE BE PUT, BE PUT IN FRONT ON THAT.

UH, THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR THIS SOMEWHAT.

SO, UH, I AM ONE THAT IS IN, IS IN FAVOR OF A SMALL FAIR.

UH, I THINK NO FAIR WOULD LEAD TO FAR MORE POSSIBLE ABUSE THAN NO FAIR WOULD, UH, AND , AND IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE MAKING ANY MONEY OFF THIS DEAL.

UH, IT'S JUST THE FACT OF PAY AS YOU GO TYPE THING.

SO, UH, I I, AS LONG AS I DID NOT REALIZE THAT, THAT THEY HAD DIFFERENT CODES FOR BUSINESSES.

SO EVEN IF A BUSINESS WANTED TO GET EMPLOYEES INTO TOWN, A BUSINESS COULD PAY THE CODE FOR THEIR EMPLOYEE TO GET IN TOWN FOR.

SO THAT I, I WANTED TO CLEAR THOSE THINGS UP AND, AND MAKE THE RESIDENT COMMENT AS WELL ON A, ON SOME KIND OF MONTHLY OR, UH, YEARLY PASS IF I COULD.

I JUST WANT, I DON'T, DO YOU WANNA FIND ONE? PROVIDE ONE OTHER CLARIFICATION FROM SOMETHING YOU SAID EARLIER, HOWARD, THAT IT IS A NOT TO EXCEED FEE.

WHAT WE'RE PAYING TO VIA IS NOT, NOT TO EXCEED.

SO WE MAY NOT PAY THAT ENTIRE AMOUNT.

IT'S BASED ON THE HOURS THAT THE VEHICLES ARE ACTUALLY USED.

SO YOU MADE THE COMMENT, WE'RE PAYING THAT 800 THOU NO MATTER WHAT.

WELL, WE'RE PAYING IT BASED ON HOW IT'S ACTUALLY USED.

SO THERE IS VARIABILITY IN WHAT WE'RE PAYING.

UM, A LITTLE BIT BESIDE THE POINT, BUT BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

WELL, I THOUGHT I ASKED VIA, I'M JUST SITTING HERE TRYING TO REMEMBER THAT MEETING AND I THOUGHT, I SAID TO THE VIA REPRESENTATIVE, IF WE DIDN'T CHARGE ANYTHING AT ALL, WOULD THE RIDERSHIP INCREASE? AND I THOUGHT HE SAID YES.

THIS IS HOW MANY HOURS AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR.

AND THEN I THOUGHT, I, I SAID, WELL HOW HAVE YOU, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED THIS AND THEY PROPOSED IT AS A ZERO.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THE ANSWER WAS.

SO IN MY MIND, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION WE'RE NOT COLLECTING A FEE FOR OUR PART BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING THIS HOURLY RATE.

I DID THINK IT WAS, IT WAS A DONE DEAL AS FAR AS

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BUT IT WAS THAT, THAT NO CHARGE AND THAT ABUSE ISSUE, LIKE RANDY JUST SAID, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE ABUSED.

UM, PEOPLE THAT HAVE CARS ARE USED TO JUST GETTING IN THEIR CAR AND GOING, AND, AND THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF US DO THAT.

BUT IF THE VIA IS AVAILABLE AND PEOPLE CAN TAKE IT TO GO TO A RESTAURANT AT NIGHT, AND IF THEY HAVE ONE TOO MANY TO DRINK AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE BACK HOME, I MEAN, I THINK IT WILL GET MORE USE THAN WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING WITH DART.

BUT IF OUR COST WAS PREDICATED ON THIS IS SO MUCH AN HOUR, REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY RIDES, I DIDN'T THINK IT MATTERED WHETHER WE CHARGED THE FEE OR NOT.

IT WOULD JUST REDUCE OUR COST.

AND I JUST DON'T WANT THE RESIDENTS WHO NEED IT.

OUR MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS WHO USE PUBLIC TRANSIT NOW, I DON'T WANT 'EM CHARGED DOUBLE.

AND I DON'T CARE IF EVERYBODY PAYS $3 AND THEY'RE NOT GOING OUT OF TOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING $3 NOW TO NOT GO OUTTA TOWN.

IT'S NO INCREASE.

THAT'S REALLY ALL I WAS SAYING.

AND I, I HOPE I'M CLEAR ON THAT BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD THAT TO BE A DO NOT EXCEED NUMBER OF THE 825 DO NOT EXCEED.

AND IF IT WENT BELOW, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THAT MUCH.

WE WOULD BENEFIT.

WELL THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE EXPLAINING NOW.

SO I GUESS IN MY MIND, I THOUGHT IT WAS 8 72 AND THAT WAS FOR SIX MONTHS AND I DOUBLED IT FOR A YEAR TO COMPARE TO DART.

AND I, I'M LIKE, OKAY, I'M GOOD WITH NOFA.

LET IT BE FREE.

LET IT JUST BE A SERVICE THAT WE OFFER OUR RESIDENTS, BUT OTHER PEOPLE COMING TO TOWN WOULD USE IT TOO.

AND I WANT OUR RESIDENTS TO GET A BENEFIT.

SO THAT'S WHY I LIKE THAT PROGRAM THAT RANDY SAID TOO ABOUT HAVING SOME KIND OF CODE FOR RESIDENTS, BUT I, I JUST DON'T WANT 'EM TO GET CHARGED DOUBLE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEIR SOFTWARE ALLOWS FOR THE FEE TO GO TO DART WHEN THEY PAY $3 AND WE GET NOTHING ON THAT FAIR.

AND IF THEY STAY IN TOWN, WE GET THE $3.

THAT WAS WHAT I WAS HOPING THANK YOU.

MORNING.

THAT IS INCREDIBLY REASONABLE.

WHEN I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, I DIDN'T MEAN IT TO BE, UM, THIS COMPLEX.

AND SO JUST TO BE SPECIFIC, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING COUNCIL COLLEAGUES IS THAT WE START WITH A RATE STRUCTURE AND, AND I'M, I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE, THAT WE DO THIS, THIS TOP ROW, WHICH, WHICH, UH, IS WHAT DART, UH, APPEARS TO BE CHARGING.

UM, I THINK IF WE CHARGE ZERO, I THINK RECOMMENDED.

I THINK THAT WOULD WORK REAL WELL FOR VIA, UM, BUT, BUT I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S INTELLIGENT FOR US TO DO THAT.

AND I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THESE FARES ARE, I THINK THEY'RE EXTREMELY REASONABLE.

AND I REALIZE I THINK HALF OF THE RIDERS, UH, WILL CONNECT WITH DART AND THE OTHER HALF WILL NOT, UM, PARATRANSIT $3 AND 50 CENTS TO TAKE YOU ANYWHERE.

THEY'RE IN A MEMBER IN A DART MEMBER CITY.

I MEAN THAT IS, UH, PICK YOU UP AT YOUR DOOR QUICKLY WITHIN 12 MINUTES AVERAGE TIME.

UM, SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS, IS RATES, UH, UH, ON THIS TOP ROW.

UM, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO SAY WE NEED TO ADD, YOU KNOW, CHILDREN UNDER AGE OF FIVE CAN RIDE FREE WITH, WITH THEIR PARENT.

AND THEN WE DEFINE, WE DEFINE WHAT SENIOR IS, I THINK 65 PLUS.

SO THAT'S, AND I THINK, I THINK IF WE START TO TRY TO THINK ABOUT, HEY, WE FEEL LIKE THE RESIDENTS OF OF DENTON AND UP THERE IN THAT AREA NEED A BETTER RATE OR I THINK THAT WE COULD MAKE THIS INCREDIBLY COMPLEX AND UM, AND I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP IT SIMPLE.

CHRIS, UH, I'M ONE THAT ALSO NEEDS CLARIFICATION ON WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE COMING INTO TOWN WILL PAY TWICE.

BECAUSE I'M LIKE, HOWARD, I THOUGHT WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.

THAT WAS ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS FROM THE BEGINNING, THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE A CUMBERSOME PROCESS ALREADY MORE EXPENSIVE.

AND I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND NOW I'M CONCERNED THAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA WORK.

IT'S UM, SO I WOULD SAY PAY TWICE PROBABLY ISN'T ACCURATE WHEN YOU GO ON YOUR APP, YOU'RE GONNA PAY ONCE, BUT WELL, NO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN.

IT COULD BE A $3 FARE FOR DART AND A $3 FARE FOR US.

SO, SO THE COST COULD GO UP.

FOR ME, I DON'T CARE REALLY.

I WANT IT TO, I, I WANT THE INTEGRATION WITH, UH, THE GO PASS.

BUT, UM, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES IT ANY EASIER FOR SOMEONE IF YOU JUST TELL 'EM, HEY, IT'S TWICE AS MUCH.

YOU CAN JUST PAY ONCE THAT, THAT'S NOT RIGHT IN MY OPINION.

UM, AND THEN ARE WE SURE, SINCE WE'RE ALREADY GOING BACK ON WHAT WE THOUGHT THE DEAL WAS, IS IT INTEGRATED WITH THE GO PASS AND CAN THEY PAY WITH THE GO PASS? YES.

AND BY INTEGRATION, I MEAN I CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE I'M GOING WORK IN ORBIT AND DART.

AND IT'S ALL DONE ON ONE APP.

ABOUT, WELL WHAT IF SOMEONE FROM DALLAS WANTED TO COME IN TO OUR HOSPITAL OR MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING? WE WEREN'T SURE IF DART WOULD STOP IN ADDISON HAD WE FIGURED THAT OUT.

AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION THAT I DIDN'T SEE GET ANSWERED WAS, UM, WE HAD THE QUESTION LAST MEETING IF, UM, DART PARATRANSIT WILL STOP IN ADDISON, UM, WE HAD HAD THAT DISCUSSION

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SO WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND, FIND THE DATA OF HOW MANY FOLKS ARE ACTUALLY DOING IT.

WHEN WE GET THAT DATA, WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN DO IS TRY TO SAY WHERE ARE THEY GOING AND TRY TO WORK WITH THEM.

SO THERE'S NO EASY SOLUTION TO IT, BUT WE CAN GO TRY TO WORK WITH WHERE THEY'RE GOING.

BUT BEFORE WE GET THERE, I JUST, I NEED MY QUESTION ANSWERED.

IF I LIVE IN DALLAS AND I NEED PARATRANSIT, IT WILL DART STOP IN ADDISON.

THAT'S A QUESTION FOR DART.

THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THEY WILL IS THE ANSWER.

SO WE HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT YET.

I JUST ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

NO, I DON'T THINK I DIDN'T HEAR A YES OR A NO.

IT'S UP TO IT'S DART'S DECISION.

THERE'S, I MY ANSWER WOULD BE NO UNLESS DART DOES SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

SO IT WON'T STOP.

OKAY, DARREN, THANK YOU.

SO, UM, WITH REGARD TO PARATRANSIT, UH, ORIGINATING OUTSIDE OF ADDISON, UH, I AM, I I'M IN FAVOR OF, UH, US PAYING THAT COST TO BRING THEM INTO ADDISON, UH, FOR PARATRANSIT.

I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO BURDEN IF WE'RE GOING THAT ROUTE, IF WE'RE GOING THE DAR LIST ROUTE.

SO THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS ON THAT.

AND I, AND I THINK ALL EIGHT OF 'EM WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS.

SMALL NUMBER.

UM, I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT MY, UM, MY EXAMPLE OF SOMEBODY COMING INTO ADDISON IS THE SAME THING AS SOMEBODY GOING OUT OF ADDISON.

SO IT IT IS IN AND OUT, UH, AS HOWARD WAS WAS TALKING ABOUT.

AND I, I DO RECALL THAT CONVERSATION 'CAUSE I HAD THAT BOX CHECKED IN MY MIND.

SO I'M PRETTY SURE WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH VIA, I'M SURE THEY CAN DO A TECHNOLOGY.

UM, I DON'T WANT THEM TO PAY CERTAINLY NOT TWICE AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO PAY DOUBLE.

I THINK IF THEY PAY DART, THEY GET HERE, THE REST OF THE FAIR ON ORBIT IS NO CHARGE.

THAT'S MY STANCE ON THAT.

SO IT'S IN AND OUT OF ADDISON.

UM, AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE FEES.

SO I, UH, FEES AND ANYWHERE FROM ONE, TWO OR $3, MAYBE WE GO THE TRINITY METRO, UM, MODEL $1, $2, UH, I'M FINE ALSO WITH ONE 50 AND $3.

IT DOES KEEP IT SIMPLE.

AND CHILDREN UNDER FIVE I THINK IS, UM, UH, FOR FREE IS IS ALSO, UH, A GOOD CALL AS WELL.

I THINK THAT'S ALL THAT I HAD.

I'M, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO ADDISON RESIDENTS HAVING A BANK OF PASSES THAT THEY CAN RIDE FOR, UH, NO CHARGE WITHIN ADDISON.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT BENEFIT TO BE IN ADDISON.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A SMALL AMOUNT.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO PAY PER HOUR, THE 60 SOMETHING DOLLARS PER HOUR OF THE VEHICLE RUNNING AND THEIR ESTIMATE BASED ON THE NUMBERS WE GAVE THEM.

UH, AND THE PROJECTIONS THEY HAVE IS, IS WHAT THAT NUMBER IS NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER AND THAT WE WILL BE PAYING LESS IF THE ACTUAL USAGE IS LESS.

SO I DO, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I UNDER UNDERSTAND IT AS WELL.

THANK YOU DAN.

CLARIFY WHAT DAN'S UH, DARREN SAID WHERE HE WANTED THE OUTSIDE PARATRANSIT COMING INTO ADDISON FOR US TO PAY THAT.

SO FOR CLARIFICATION, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS RATE FOR CHILDREN'S AND I HEAR FIVE, FIVE YEARS OF AGE BEING THROWN AROUND FOR ME, WHEN I LOOK AT LIKE RESTAURANTS STARTING A A MEAL DEAL TOWARDS CHILDREN, I'D BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT BEING AN OLDER AGE GROUP.

I DUNNO WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, BUT LET THE COUNCIL DECIDE.

I GUESS SOMETHING ALONG LANE THAT COMES TO MIND IS 10 OR 11 OR 12 YEARS OF AGE, NOT FIVE, UM, WITH AN ACCOMPANIED ADULT.

UM, I'M IN THE FAVOR OF ADDISON RESIDENTS THAT ARE ALMOST LIKE HOMESTEADERS THAT THEY'RE FREE.

SO SENIORS AT A CERTAIN AGE CAN ALMOST ANNUALLY APPLY.

LIKE THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE ATH ADDISON ATHLETIC CENTER, PROOF OF IDENTIFICATION, PROOF OF YOUR RESIDENCY AND YOUR PASS WOULD SORT OF BE DOWNLOADED TO YOUR, TO YOUR PHONE.

AND PARATRANSIT CERTAINLY IN MY OPINION, SHOULD BE FREE IN ADDISON.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S ENOUGH CLARIFICATION FOR YOU.

DAVID, HOWARD, I THINK, I THINK THAT MIGHT JUST COVERED ME.

I I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT PARATRANSIT WHEN WE WERE SPEAKING EARLIER AND THIS THREE 50 FOR DART.

UM, I, I DON'T WANT SENIORS OR OR A DA PEOPLE TO HAVE TO PAY $7.

SO THE THREE 50, IF IT'S FREE TO CONNECT TO, I MEAN I KNOW WE'RE GONNA GO, OUR PARATRANSITS GONNA GO EVERYWHERE THAT, THAT WE CURRENTLY GO, WE WILL DO THAT WITH VIA, I JUST WANT THAT TO BE THREE 50.

I DON'T WANT THAT TO GET DOUBLED.

WELL, I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO GET DOUBLED.

UM, AND I AGREE WITH DAN THAT FIVE, FIVE YEARS OLD IS, IS NOT OLD ENOUGH AND I'M, I'M HAPPY UP TO 12.

UM, SO IF 12 IS OKAY WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, THAT WOULD BE MY NUMBER.

IF 10 IS BETTER, THAT'S OKAY TOO, BUT, UM, I JUST, I DON'T WANNA SEE PEOPLE PAY DOUBLE AND I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT PARATRANSIT DOUBLE.

RANDY, I, I WANNA CLEAR

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AND I, I I WANNA CLARIFY MY OPINION ON THAT.

WOULD WOULD BE, THEY WOULD STILL PAY THE PARATRANSIT FEE, BUT WE WOULD GO PICK THEM UP.

WE WOULD NOT SUBSIDIZE AN OUT OF ADDISON RESIDENT TO COME IN AND PREPARE TRANSIT.

I I AM GOOD WITH GOING AND PICKING THEM UP IF THEY PAID THE FAIR FOR PARATRANSIT, JUST LIKE WE CHARGED THE PARA TRANSIT FAIR IN ADDISON TO GO TO ONE OF THE 13 OTHER AREAS.

I AGREE.

RANDY.

IS IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING THERE OR DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT? YOU SAID HONOR, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

UH UH CLEARLY, BUT I DO AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AS LONG AS THEY PAY THE FAIR, I AM GOOD WITH US GOING OUTSIDE TO BRING IN THE, THE CURRENT PARATRANSIT RIDERS THAT COME INTO ADDISON.

I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH THAT IS IF THEY'RE GOING TO GO PICK SOMEBODY UP IN ETTE OR EAST PLANO, THEY'RE GONNA BE OUT OF TOWN FOR AN HOUR PLUS.

SO YOU GOT HAVE THAT, HAVE THAT HAPPEN MORE THAN ONCE.

AT THE SAME TIME YOU GOT A COUPLE OF VEHICLES, THEN WE THEN THAT KIND OF JACKS WITH OUR, AND THAT THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THE SYSTEM.

WE'RE WE'RE GOING IN, WE CAN ADJUST AS WE GO.

IF WE FIND OUT WE NEED ANOTHER VEHICLE, THEY CAN ADD ANOTHER, IT IT, IT'S, IT'S MALLEABLE AND, AND FLEXIBLE MORE SO THAN DART.

AND MY UNDER MY MEMORY WAS THAT YOU THOUGHT THERE WERE EIGHT TOTAL IN 2025 PARATRANSITS FROM OUTSIDE ADDISON INN.

THAT WAS A, I MEAN WE'VE GOT NUMBERS THAT ARE SHOWING 1500 OR SO A YEAR TOTAL IMP PARATRANSIT.

WE'RE TRYING TO DECIPHER.

WE THINK IT IS A SMALL AMOUNT THAT COME HERE SPECIFICALLY FROM OUT OF THE REGION OR OUT OF ADDISON.

BUT WE'RE, I MEAN WE'RE STILL HAVING TO DECIPHER THAT DATA.

WE'RE ALSO NOT, THEY BASICALLY DART JUST SENDS US A BUNCH OF ZIP CODE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE KIND OF HAVING TO DECIPHER OURSELVES.

SO, UM, AND I THINK GOING FORWARD WE WILL HAVE MUCH BETTER NUMBERS.

WE WILL BE ABLE TO ACCUMULATE CORRECT OUR OWN DATA AND THAT'S WHAT THIS SIX MONTH INITIAL CONTRACT WAS.

FOUR IS TO ACCUMULATE DATA WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.

AND AND THEN ADJUST AS YES SIR.

ADJUST AS WE GO.

YES SIR.

SO, UH, VERY GOOD.

BUT YEAH, I WANTED JUST TO CLARIFY THAT AS LONG AS THEY'RE PAYING THAT I I HAVE NO PROBLEM GOING.

SO I, I DO WANNA ELABORATE ON THE PARATRANSIT RIDER COMING INTO ADDISON.

'CAUSE IT IS A SMALL NUMBER, BUT IT'S ALSO GONNA BE A COMP, IT'S GONNA BE A COMPLICATED PROBLEM FOR US TO SOLVE UNLESS DART WANTS TO WORK WITH US AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE, WE'LL ALLOW THEM TO COME IN.

'CAUSE WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO, AND WE CAN DO IT, IT'S JUST GONNA, WE'RE HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT IS ARE THEY GOING TO A HOSPITAL? ARE THEY GO, ARE THEY GOING TO THE HOSPITAL? ARE THEY GO TO A NUMBER OF PLACES WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY GO TO THE HOSPITAL, GO TO THE PLACE THEY'RE GOING, GET A LIST OF THEM, GIVE THEM A CODE SO THEY CAN COME IN.

SO MY POINT IS THAT'S JUST GONNA BE COMPLICATED TO FIGURE OUT.

WE'RE GONNA WORK TO DO IT.

WE UNDERSTAND WE ALL WANT THE SAME GOAL, BUT IT'S, IT IS, I THINK IT WAS IDENTIFIED BRUCE, WHEN THE MAYOR MENTIONED IT.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GONNA BE MORE COMPLICATED TO FIGURE OUT.

AND EVEN, EVEN IF YOU GOT THE LIST THIS WEEK, NEXT WEEK, THE LIST IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT.

YEP.

BECAUSE THAT IS NOT A FIXED THING.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE IN, MIGHT NEED PARATRANSIT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, THEN THEY DON'T NEED IT.

AND IN THE NEXT MONTH MAYBE WE HAVE TWICE AS MANY OR HALF AS MANY.

SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT AS EASY, I THINK TO ADD OR REDUCED VEHICLE.

IS THAT BECAUSE THAT NUMBER IS SO FLUCTUATING, UH, OVER TIME? WELL, YOU KNOW, TRADITIONALLY IT HAS BEEN PRIVATE AMBULANCE SERVICES THAT HAVE TRANSPORTED PEOPLE FROM THEIR HOMES TO HOSPITALS.

UH, THAT'S, THERE ARE PRIVATE MEDICAL TRANSPORT SERVICES TOO THAT I DON'T WANNA PUT OUT BUSINESS EITHER, BUT I WANT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE.

SO, ALRIGHT, LET'S GO TO DAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

SO DAVID ASHLEY FOR CLARIFICATION, WE HAVE A VENDOR WE'VE ASKED REPEATEDLY FOR INFORMATION ABOUT PARATRANSIT RIDERS.

IT'S A FEDERALLY GIVEN RIGHT BY A BY A CITIZEN TO GET FEDERALLY BACKED PARATRANSIT.

BUT THAT VENDOR WILL NOT SUPPLY US WITH WHO IS COMING INTO ADDISON.

SO, AM I HEARING YOU CORRECTLY? DO I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY? SO I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S THAT THEY'RE, THEY WON'T.

IT IS AND UM, WE CAN PROBABLY SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO IT.

IT'S PROTECTED INFORMATION IS THE PROBLEM.

UM, IS THERE, DART IS SAYING WE CAN'T GIVE YOU SOMEBODY'S NAME, PHONE NUMBER AND ADDRESS THAT IS SIGNED UP THROUGH PARATRANSIT SO THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND CONTACT THEM.

UH, THEY ALSO, BECAUSE OF THAT, WON'T GIVE US THAT SPECIFIC DATA

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BROKEN DOWN THAT WAY.

ALL WE CAN GET IS THE TRIPS BY ZIP CODE BY MONTH.

SO IN FAIRNESS THEN IT'S, IT'S NOT DART'S RESPONSIBILITY OR VIAS RESPONSIBILITY, IT'S THE ACTUAL PARATRANSIT RIDER THEMSELVES RESPONSIBILITY TO REPORT WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE SO THAT WE CAN BEST BE PREPARED TO MEET THEIR NEEDS.

SO IT'S NOT A GUESSING GAME, IT'S SPECIFICALLY ON THE NEWS.

PEOPLE KNOW IT'S COMING.

POTENTIALLY THERE'S AN IN OR OUT.

IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO SPEAK UP AND SAY, I NEED PARATRANSIT.

I LIVE IN GARLAND, OR I LIVE IN ADDISON AND I NEED PARATRANSIT TO DALLAS.

IT'S NOT A GUESSING GAME, IT'S, IT'S A MATTER OF DOING SOMETHING AHEAD OF TIME VERSUS US HAVING A CRYSTAL BALL AND NO GUESSWORK TO IT.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, LIKE I SAID, I MEET WITH VIA MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS HOW DO WE GET THE WORD OUT TO GET PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THE PARIS TRANSIT SERVICE COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE.

YOU NEED TO CONTACT US.

SO, UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A LIST OF ALL MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS IN TOWN.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THE HOSPITAL, ANY SURGERY CENTERS, ANY OF THOSE PLACES, UM, IN TOWN THAT WE KNOW OF THAT WE COULD GO AND PUT A FLYER WITH A QR CODE THAT SAYS, DO YOU USE DARK PERRY TRANSIT SERVICE FOR, YOU KNOW, AS ADDISON RESIDENT OR FOR AN ADDISON FACILITY, CONTACT THIS NUMBER.

PERFECT.

SO TO ELABORATE ON THAT BUSINESSES, THE TOP 100 BUSINESSES, THE TOP 10 BUSINESSES THAT HAVE THE MOST EMPLOYEES THAT WORK IN ADDISON HOTEL, RESTAURANT, YOU NAME IT.

WE CAN PRETTY MUCH FIGURE OUT IF WE REACH OUT TO THEM AHEAD OF TIME LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING, INSTEAD OF BEING A SURVEY, IT'S, WE NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHO'S GONNA NEED TRANSPORTATION IN AND OUT OF ADDISON SO WE CAN GET YOUR EMPLOYEES INTO OUR BUSINESSES TO HELP YOU.

THE PLAN IS TO INUNDATE EVERYBODY.

SO WE'RE NOT HIDING THIS, THIS IS NOT LIKE HIDDEN INFORMATION WHERE WE'RE DILUTING IT DOWN.

IT'S PEOPLE LITERALLY HAVING TO DO SOMETHING, SOMETHING.

'CAUSE THEY NEED PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND WE'RE OFFERING IT.

THEY JUST NEED TO SPEAK UP TO OUR STAFF.

IS THAT SIMPLY PUT OR MY YES, WE, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION IS EVERYWHERE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

SO THERE'S NO MYSTERY TO THIS.

SO, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT THOUGH, DAN, BECAUSE THAT, THAT REQUIRES A PERSON TO BE AT THAT MEDICAL FACILITY TO SEE THE FLYER.

WELL THEY HAD TO HAVE GOTTEN THERE SOMEHOW FIRST TO SEE THAT FLYER.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IN THE PAST YEAR, SIX MONTHS, THEY'RE COMING INTO ADDISON TO GO TO A HOSPITAL.

BUT I I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT NEEDS IT NEXT WEEK, STARTING NEXT WEEK.

THEY DIDN'T TODAY.

THEY DON'T KNOW THEY NEED IT TOMORROW AFTER THEY HAD THE CAR WRECK TODAY THEY NEED IT.

BECAUSE, SO IT CHANGES.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AS CUT AND DRY AND EASY, PREDICTABLE, NOT CUT AND DRY.

BUT IT'S ALSO NOT AS CONVOLUTED.

IT'S ALSO NOT AS DILUTED DOWN WHERE WE'RE NOT GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT.

WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO BE AWARE VIA A VR, OUR WEBSITE SITE, LOCAL NEWS.

MARY, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS.

HOW ARE, HOW ARE WE MARKETING WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE ARE MAY OR MAY NOT BE IN OR OUT OF A VOTE BECAUSE WE ALL DISCUSSED WE CANNOT MARKET THE SERVICE OF VIA, BUT WE CAN MARKET THE FACT THAT IF YOU'RE A PARA TRANSIT RIDER OR AN EMPLOYEE OF ADDISON, WE CAN AT LEAST GET THE MESSAGING OUT BECAUSE THEY MAKE IT INTO CARON TONIGHT.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

I, I A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE.

IT'S A, IT'S A VARIABLE THAT CONSTANTLY CHANGES, BUT WE'RE NOT HIDING THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO HELP.

THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AS A TOWN, AS COUNCIL, WE'RE TRYING TO HELP NOT HIDE THE TRUTH ABOUT SERVICE.

THAT'S HOW DO I, HOW DO I CONVEY THAT? AM I NOT SAYING THAT CLEARLY? NO, YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING IT CLEARLY.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO PUT MYSELF IN, IN THE SHOES OF SOMEBODY THAT THEY'VE JUST HAD A LIFE CHANGING INCIDENT IN, IN THEIR WORLD AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY NEED STUFF.

HOW WOULD THEY HAVE HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I MEAN, IT'S GREAT THAT YOU COULD PUT IT ALL OUT THERE, BUT IF I DON'T NEED IT, I'M NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

IS THERE, MAYBE THE TOWN AND STAFF HAS DONE THIS ALREADY.

WE CREATED A SURVEY.

CAN WE CREATE A FLYER THAT'S POSTED IN, UM, EMPLOYEE PACKETS OF OUR TOP A HUNDRED BUSINESSES? BUT YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT EMPLOYEES AND THINGS.

I'M TALKING, I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN ADDISON.

THEY DON'T WORK IN ADDISON, BUT THEY NEED TO COME NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY NEED TO START COMING TO HERE, HERE FOR MEDICAL TREATMENT.

UNDERST UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I'M, BUT STILL TRYING TO DO MAYOR, IT'S NOT AN OVERNIGHT THING.

I'M NOT LOOKING FOR THE ONE WHO MAY GET IN THE ACCIDENT TOMORROW OR MAY NEED THE SERVICE TOMORROW.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONES WHO ALREADY KNOW THEY NEED THE SERVICE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

THE ONES WHO NEED IT NOW, THEY KNOW THEY WORK HERE.

THEY'RE NOT IN AN ACCIDENT.

THEY KNOW THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO KNOW THEY'RE COMING TO WORK TOMORROW AND, AND AND TO THAT AUDIENCE.

I AGREE WITH YOU.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I WANT, I WANNA POST IT IN THEIR LUNCH ROOMS AND THEIR EMPLOYEE NEWSLETTERS.

I I I GOT YOUR POINT ON THAT.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO CLARIFY.

OKAY, GOOD.

SO, SO IF SOMEBODY HAS AN EMERGENCY, LIKE YOU JUST ALLUDED TO AND, AND TODAY THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT NEXT WEEK THEY DO AND THEY

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LIVE IN GARLAND.

I DOUBT THEY'RE COMING TO ADDISON FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT EMERGENCY SERVICE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT MAYBE THEY HAD A SURGERY AND THEIR, AND THEIR DOCTORS IS BASED OUT OF THE, THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING NEXT TO METHODIST HOSPITAL.

ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS COLLECTING, UM, AT LEAST FOR ALL THE MAJOR HOSPITALS THAT WE KNOW OF, COLLECTING INFORMATION TO GET TO ANY PATIENT CASEWORKERS.

SO THAT, UM, WHAT I HAVE FOUND IS DART PUTS OUT THAT INFORMATION TO ALL THE MAJOR HOSPITALS, UH, MEDICAL CLINICS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND IT'S PART OF THEIR PATIENT CARE PACKAGE.

UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE COLLECTING ALL OF THAT DATA TO ALSO BE ABLE TO GET INFORMATION OUT TO, LIKE I SAID, HOSPITALS, THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT THEY KNOW NOT ONLY IS THERE DART NOW, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER SERVICE.

UM, AND, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE, I THINK THAT THAT, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO GET THE CASE MANAGERS INVOLVED WITH THAT.

BUT THEY'RE STILL NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET FROM THEIR LOCATION TO ADDISON.

THAT IS, I MEAN, UNDER, DEPENDING ON HOW WE SET IT UP FROM THE INFORMATION WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T.

I ALSO REACHED OUT JUST AS SOMETHING IS ON THE PARATRANSIT SIDE, I'VE ALSO REACHED OUT AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET AN ANSWER BACK FROM ARLINGTON ON HOW THEY GET THEIR INFORMATION OUT.

'CAUSE THEY OFFER PARATRANSIT THROUGH VIA HOW DID THEY GET THAT INFORMATION OUT? SO SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT HOW DO WE GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO PARATRANSIT RIDERS.

SO, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO AS FAR AS, UH, PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE DUMP.

AND WHEN THEY'RE OPERATING WITHIN ARLINGTON, IT'S EASY.

'CAUSE IT IS THAT LOCAL RIDE, RIGHT? THE LOCAL RIDE'S EASY.

MUCH EASIER.

IT'S, IT'S THAT DISCONNECT.

THAT'S A DISCONNECT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION OUT.

I MEAN, MAYOR, DID YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO, WHAT WE MIGHT WANNA DO OR CONSIDER? I, I DON'T, I I JUST THINK THERE, I THINK THAT, I THINK IT'S VERY COMPLICATED.

OH, I, I DO TOO.

I'M JUST, I I I WISH I HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS.

WELL, YEAH, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA SOLVE IT OVERNIGHT.

I THINK IT'S, I THINK THERE'RE GONNA BE ISSUES AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET PEOPLE SIGNED UP QUICK, BUT WE'RE GOTTA YEAH, I HAVE A SUGGESTION, BUT IT, IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THIS ITEM.

DID YOU I HAVE A FEW MORE.

HOLD ON A SEC.

OKAY, GO AHEAD, DARREN.

SO, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE, SO FIRST OF ALL, ARLINGTON, THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A GREATER REGION LIKE WE DO.

SO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF ARLINGTON, UH, HAD NOT BEEN USING ANOTHER SERVICE LIKE WE'RE TRANSITIONING TO.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S, YEAH, BUT IT'S GOOD INFORMATION.

IT'S GONNA BE A GAP.

I, I DO AGREE.

IT'S GONNA BE COMPLICATED, DAVID.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

UM, AND WE'RE GONNA WORK THROUGH IT.

UM, IT SEEMS LIKE SOMEBODY THAT, UH, GETS, IS NEW TO PARATRANSIT, HAS SOME SORT OF PACKAGE WELCOME PACKAGE.

WELL, UH, STARTUP ONBOARDING TYPE DEAL TO USE PARATRANSIT SO THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE DONE THERE.

AND IF THEY'RE IN GO PASS AND THEY THEN, THIS IS NUMBER THREE HERE.

IF THEY ARE IN GO PASS AND THEY TRY TO COME INTO ADDISON, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME NOTIFICATION SAYING YOU CAN'T AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF VIA NOT THAT YOU CAN'T, THAT THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THAT.

IF VIA TRAPS THAT I WOULD LIKE, I THINK VIA WOULD BE WOULD THAT'S RIGHT.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S AS BIG OF A, A CONCERN AS WE'RE MAKING IT.

IN THEIR, THEIR BALLPARK.

SO THEY WOULD CATCH THAT AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE WAY THIS WORKS.

AND UH, THEN THAT WE WOULD GATHER THE INFORMATION THAT WAY.

I THINK, I THINK THAT COVERS ALL THE BASES, BUT IT, IT, IT'S NOT SIMPLE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT IT SEEMED LIKE IT'D BE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH, AS THEY'RE DOING IT ON GO PASS AND THEY MAY NOT BE DOING IT ON GO PASS.

THEY MAY BE CALLING IN, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S GONNA BE THE FRONT END OF THE INTAKE OF A PARATRANSIT NEW NEW RIDER.

IT'S MY, UH, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, HOWARD, WE'LL START WRAPPING THIS THING UP HERE.

I, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T FINISH BEFORE.

DOESN'T, UH, DART SUB OUT THEIR PAIR OF TRANSIT NOW? DON'T THEY USE A THIRD PARTY TO DO IT? OKAY.

SO VIA, IN A SENSE WOULD BE LIKE THAT THIRD PARTY.

AND SO WHATEVER ISSUES THEY RUN INTO WITH, IF THEY HAVE TO TAKE SOMEBODY FAR AWAY FROM HERE AND COME BACK, THEY'RE USED TO DEALING WITH THAT VIA HAS OTHER VEHICLES.

I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE.

AND, UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS HOW DO THESE NON-ART CITIES DEAL WITH PARATRANSIT WHEN, I MEAN, IF WE BECOME A NON-ART CITY, WE BECOME LIKE ONE OF THOSE CITIES.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEALING WITH IT AS WELL.

I MEAN, THIS SHOULDN'T BE AN INSURMOUNTABLE ISSUE.

AND I DON'T THINK WITH ADDISON BEING JUST THREE OR FOUR SQUARE MILES, I CAN'T IMAGINE THERE'S MORE PEOPLE COMING INTO ADDISON THAN GOING OUT OF ADDISON.

SO TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A VERY SMALL PROBLEM.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT DIFFICULT TO, TO FIGURE IT OUT ONCE WE IDENTIFY THOSE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO COME INTO ADDISON AND WE JUST HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THOSE PEOPLE.

I, I THINK THAT IT'S A SMALL ISSUE COMPARED TO A LARGE PROBLEM.

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THAT'S IT'S ONLY A SMALL ISSUE IF IT'S NOT YOU THAT HAS TO FIGURE IT OUT.

NO, I I THINK IT IS A, IT'S A, THAT IS TRUE IF I'M NOT THE ONE, BUT, BUT FOR THE PERSON WHO HAS THE ISSUE, WE ARE GONNA SOLVE IT.

SO THEY JUST HAVE TO LET US KNOW THEY'RE THE ONE WITH THE ISSUE AND WE COME UP WITH A PROBLEM.

WE CORRECT.

CONNECT A RALLY POINT OR DART BRINGS YOU INTO ADDISON.

I THINK I'M PERF PERF PERFECTLY WILLING TO VOTE FOR ADDISON TO PAY FOR THOSE PEOPLE NOT TO PAY ANY MORE THAN THEY'RE CURRENTLY PAYING DART TO COME TO ADDISON.

THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

I DON'T WANNA CHARGE 'EM ANYMORE.

I JUST WANNA SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND GET 'EM HERE.

SO IF DART WOULD DO IT AND WORK WITH US, THAT'D BE THE EASIEST.

IF NOT, WE CONNECTED A RALLY POINT.

I HEARD THE NUMBER.

IT WAS ONLY EIGHT PEOPLE LAST YEAR.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE I HEARD THAT.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONNECTING A PARATRANSIT PASSENGER AT A RALLY POINT? WELL, I'D RATHER NOT.

I'D RATHER THEY BROUGHT 'EM ALL THE WAY TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.

BUT IF THEY WON'T, IF DART WON'T DO THAT FOR US, IF WE CAN'T NEGOTIATE, MCKINNEY HAS SERVICES WITH DART AND THEY'RE NOT A DART MEMBER CITY FOR THE FEW PEOPLE THAT IT INVOLVES.

I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE THAT BIG OF A PROBLEM.

BUT I, I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW LARGE IT WOULD BE.

AND I I HEARD EIGHT.

DID ANYBODY ELSE HEAR THAT? NOBODY ELSE HEARD EIGHT PEOPLE.

WHERE DID I HEAR THAT? I READ IT SOMEWHERE.

SORRY.

WE, WE GOTTA WRAP THIS UP.

WELL, WE VERY IMPORTANT SUBJECT MAYOR.

I UNDERSTAND WE'VE BEEN GOING FOR A WHILE.

I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF.

UM, THIS REALLY SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER DART PROBLEM TO ME.

IF I HAD CUSTOMERS THAT I WAS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SERVICE ANYMORE, IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD BE DART ONE OF DART'S RESPONSIBILITIES TO PUT SOMETHING OUT TO SAY THAT YOU NEED TO CONTACT ANOTHER ENTITY FOR YOUR NEEDS.

SO GO GOING ON THAT, UH, OVERNIGHT.

Y'ALL KEEP TALKING ABOUT CAR WRECKS AND NEEDING THIS.

TOMORROW IS PARATRANSIT NOT A PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR AND GO THROUGH? THIS IS NOT AN OVERNIGHT DEAL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NOT NEED TODAY AND NEED TOMORROW.

UH, IT, IT'S A PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH WITH APPLICATION PROCESS AND, AND GOING THROUGH THAT, UH, PARATRANSIT ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THERE ARE LEVELS OF PARATRANSIT, EVERYTHING FROM THE AMBULATORY TO THE WHEELCHAIR BOUND.

SO I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH A RALLY POINT FOR A PARATRANSIT THAT IS AN AMBULATORY PATIENT FOR THE WHEELCHAIR PATIENTS.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE ALTOGETHER.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT IS A HUGE ISSUE IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH IT.

BUT WE ARE MAKING A MOUNTAIN OUT OF A MOLE HILL ON A PROBLEM.

I I THINK THE PROBLEM CAN BE SOLVED EASILY AND MAKE AND, AND TAKE CARE OF THESE PEOPLE.

UM, W WITH, WITH THE PROCESS OF PARATRANSIT, ASHLEY, ARE YOU VERSED ENOUGH ON THE PARATRANSIT TO GIVE US A BRIEF SYNOPSIS ON WHAT IT TAKES TO BE PARATRANSIT ELIGIBLE? SURE.

THERE'S A FORM THAT YOU FILL OUT AND THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF DOCTOR'S, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY DOCTOR'S NOTE, BUT A DOCTOR HAS TO CERTIFY WHAT YOUR LIMITATIONS ARE, WHICH PUTS YOU IN THE CATEGORY ONE, TWO, OR THREE.

UM, THEY ALSO HAVE TO CERTIFY, IS THIS A SHORT TERM THING? I'VE BLOWN OUT MY KNEE.

I'M GONNA BE ON A, YOU KNOW, WALKER FOR A LITTLE BIT.

OR THIS IS A LONG TERM.

SO, YEAH.

SO IT IT, IT HAS TO BE VALIDATED THROUGH A PHYSICIAN.

AND THAT, THAT, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

SO IT'S NOT AN OVERNIGHT, YOU'RE IN A WRECK TODAY AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE PARATRANSIT TOMORROW.

YOU, YOU, I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT TO BE TRUE.

IT'S A PROCESS YOU HAVE, IT'S A PROCESS.

YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE, THE DOCTOR'S.

DO YOU THINK THEY RECOMMENDATIONS THINK THEY CAN'T MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS PRETTY QUICKLY? I I'M PRETTY SURE THEY PROBABLY CAN.

AGAIN, I OVERNIGHT, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE CASE.

I THINK YOU'RE WELL, BUT MAYBE IT'S NOT OPEN.

MAYBE IT'S THREE DAYS.

IT IS EITHER WAY.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

MAYBE THREE DAYS IS THE PROCESS, BUT THAT'S NOT OVERNIGHT.

OKAY, FINE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I GO BACK TO FRISCO, THE COLONY, I CAN NAME 123 OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT DO NOT SUPPLY THIS SERVICE AND PEOPLE SOMEHOW GET TO THEIR DOCTORS AND THEIR APPOINTMENTS IN THOSE CITIES.

THAT IS NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE.

IT'S NOT WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF THESE PEOPLE AND WE'RE GONNA SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THEY DO PROVIDE PARATRANSIT SERVICE BECAUSE IT'S FEDERALLY MANDATED.

IT'S NOT.

YOU NEED TO, YOU NEED TO, YOU NEED TO READ UP ON THAT.

IT'S NOT FEDERALLY MANDATED IN EVERY TOWN IN AMERICA.

NOW WHAT I'VE HEARD, REALLY, SHOULD WE GO THROUGH THE NO LEGISLATOR OF ACTION ON THAT TONIGHT? NO, WE SHOULD NOT.

WELL IT'S NOT MANDATED IN EVERY TOWN.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT, ARE YOU GONNA BRING THIS TO THIS NEXT WEEK? OR WHAT'S, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US ON THIS? REAL, REAL QUICK? MERITED, DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON THE RATES? NO, I DON'T.

WHAT WE'VE HEARD, IF WE START WITH, WE START WITH THE DART RATES, BUT WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS FOR FOLKS THAT ARE GONNA CONNECT TO DART, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL FEE.

I'M JUST, I I MEAN, I THINK BASED ON

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SO ESSENTIALLY IT WOULD BE A, TO GET TO THE RALLY POINT OR FROM IT WOULD BE FREE TO GET TO THE RALLY POINT AND THEY WOULD JUST PAY THE DART FEE TO GO OVER.

THEY'RE GONNA GO WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GO.

SO OUR CONVERSATION WITH VIA IS, CAN THE TECHNOLOGY HANDLE THAT? I THINK IT WILL BE ABLE TO, YEAH.

WHAT'S WE, WE KIND OF NARROWED IT DOWN LIKE THAT.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY EASY IN THAT WAY.

MY ONLY ASK IS THAT WHEN WE USE THE TERM UN HOMED THAT SEEM SEEMINGLY GET ON THE, UH, OTHER VENDOR'S PRODUCT THAT WE KNOW, IF SOMEONE IS UN HOMED GETTING ON A VIA PRODUCT THAT WOULD NOT BE TOLERATED.

IF THEY GOT ON A RALLY POINT, THEY TOOK IT TO SAID, SAID RALLY POINT, THEY CAN'T MAKE THEIR WAY IN FOR FREE ON A VIA PRODUCT.

YOU HAVE HIT THE REASON I WANT A FAIR THAT, THAT IS THE ABUSE I'M REFERRING TO, COUNCILMAN CIO, IF THEY PAY A DART FEE AND THEY'RE COMING INTO ADDISON, THEN IT, WE, WE REALLY WOULDN'T BE ANY DIFFERENT.

'CAUSE THEY WOULD STILL BE GETTING HERE ON DART NOW.

SO THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE SHOULD, I THINK THE MODEL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHARGE, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE MODEL THAT DAVID JUST SAID.

BASICALLY, THERE'S NO CHARGE EXTRA COMING INTO ADDISON AND FOR THE ADDISON WITHIN ADDISON FEES, UH, MARLON, YOU'RE $3 A DOLLAR 50 AND, UH, WHATEVER AGE WE CHOOSE, UH, FOR BEING NO CHARGE.

I'M, I'M ON BOARD WITH THAT.

UM, AND, UH, FOR, AND WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO FOR PASSES FOR ADDISON RESIDENCE, UH, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT ALSO.

I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT AND, AND AS WELL AS, UH, EMPLOYERS GOING THROUGH A PROCESS.

OF COURSE ALL THAT, CHRIS? YEAH, I AGREE WITH ALL THAT.

I DON'T WANNA SEE PEOPLE CHARGE TWICE.

UM, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF MAYBE 12 AND UNDER FREE AND I'M FINE WITH WHAT EVERYTHING WE SEE UP THERE AND WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT A, A DISCOUNT OR SOMETHING FOR EDISON RESIDENTS.

THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING I THINK WE NEED TO SHORE UP IS, IS, UH, MAYBE DEFINITIONS OF CHILDREN AND SENIORS AND SO FORTH.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, 12 AND BELOW IS FREE CHILDREN, UH, 65 AND UP SENIORS.

ANYTHING ELSE, JOE, WHAT YOU NEED? WE'RE GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY, ASHLEY.

OF PATTERN OR COLOR, WHATEVER.

ALRIGHT, YOU GOT CORRECTION OUT OF THAT ITEM

[d. Present and discuss potential amendments to the Unified Development Code (UDC) pertaining to the creation of Parks Zoning District(s).]

FOUR D.

ITEM FOUR D PRESENT AND DISCUSS POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE UDC PERTAINING TO THE CREATION OF PARKS ZONING DISTRICTS.

LESLIE.

GOOD EVENING, LESLIE.

AND I'M DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

UH, THIS EVENING WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE PARKS OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICT.

SO WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

SOME OF THIS WILL BE, UH, A REMINDER OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS SUBJECT.

UM, AND PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED FRAMEWORK FOR THE OVERLAY, UM, AND THE PROPOSED PROCESS FOR THAT.

AND THEN JUST, UH, WALK THROUGH A COUPLE OF CONSIDERATIONS THAT STAFF HAD, UH, WHEN WE WERE CREATING THIS FRAMEWORK TO KINDA, UM, PUT YOU IN OUR FRAME OF, FRAME OF MIND AND KIND OF WHY WE DID, UH, WHY WE DRAFTED IT THE WAY WE DID.

SO THE LAST TIME, UM, WE SPOKE TO COUNSEL ABOUT THIS ITEM WAS OCTOBER 14TH OF LAST YEAR.

UM, TO DISCUSS THIS POTENTIAL AMENDMENT, UM, TO ESTABLISH THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.

UM, WE DISCUSSED THREE DIFFERENT AUCTIONS, UM, AND THE DIRECTION AT THAT TIME WAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CREATION OF AN OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICT.

THE GOALS THAT, UM, STAFF UNDERSTOOD FROM THAT DISCUSSION WAS TO, WE WANTED TO CLEARLY IDENTIFY OUR PUBLIC PARKS ON OUR ONLINE ZONING MAP, AND WE ALSO WANNA ESTABLISH A PUBLIC FOR SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO OUR PUBLIC PARKS.

SO, UM, THAT IS THE GOALS WE USE TO, TO CREATE THIS FRAMEWORK.

UM, QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE OVERLAY DISTRICT IS.

IT'S AN EXTRA LAYER OF RULES PLACED ON TOP OF OUR EXISTING ZONING.

UM, WHEREVER THAT DOES APPLY, UM, THE UDC WOULD CREATE THIS OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICT, AND IN ORDER TO CREATE THAT, IT WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.

UM, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS AS WE DID ADOPTING THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

UM, PLEASE NOTE THAT THE OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICT SECTION ALREADY EXISTS IN THE UDC 'CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE SOME OVERLAYS.

THIS WOULD BE A NEW OVERLAY THAT WE WOULD ADD TO THE, TO THE PLAN.

UM, AND ALREADY MENTIONED, I MENTIONED IT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS TOWN WIDE NOTICE TO DO SO.

UM, SO THIS IS JUST, THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE WE COULD DO, UM, ANY SORT

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GREEN IS USUALLY THE MOST, UM, COMMONLY USED COLOR ON OUR ZONING MAP FOR PARKS.

BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE AS YOU SEE, UM, HOW IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE, UM, SHOWN ON OR ILLUSTRATED ON OUR ZONING MAP, UM, AS, UH, REPRESENTING ADDISON CIRCLE PARK IN THIS EXAMPLE.

SO THIS, UH, THE OVERLAY WOULD ALLOW ALL OF OUR PARKS TO BE IDENTIFIED ON OUR ONLINE ZONING MAP, UM, REPRESENTED WITH THAT UNIQUE SYMBOLOGY, WHICH BE HAPPY TO ACCEPT ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT IF YOU, UH, ANY OF YOU HAVE, UM, FEELINGS ABOUT HOW, WHAT THAT SYMBOLOGY IS, UM, AND ALL NEW PARKS TO BE DEDICATED.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW OUR PARKS THAT EXIST TODAY.

ANY NEW PARKS, WHETHER THEY'RE DEDICATED OR ESTABLISHED, UM, WOULD NEED TO BE RECLASSIFIED AND THAT WOULD GO, HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT, UM, THAT PROCESS OF ESTABLISHING.

SO EXAMPLES OF THAT, UM, WOULD BE FOR, UH, THE AMWAY TRIAGE TRAIL BEHIND, UH, THE NEW AMWAY TRIAGE PROJECT.

OBVIOUSLY IF THIS, UM, OVERLAY WAS ALREADY IN EXISTS OR ALREADY ADOPTED TODAY, WHEN ONCE THAT PART OR THAT TRAIL IS DEDICATED, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ESTABLISHING THE OVERLAY.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE HAVE BEEN A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FINANCE BUILDING AS WELL.

THE SAME PROCESS WOULD APPLY JUST TO GIVE SOME EXAMPLES THERE.

UM, SO THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE UDC, JUST PROVIDING YOU AN EXAMPLE, UM, OF THAT NEW OVERLAY, UH, THE PARK OVERLAY WITHIN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

UM, SO ONCE AGAIN, TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN STEP ONE, WHICH IS THE CREATION OF THIS OVERLAY.

UM, THE NEXT STEP, UH, WHICH THIS, WE'RE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT THE FRAMEWORK.

SO SOME MORE DETAIL WILL COME, BUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO REALLY SEPARATE THIS INTO, UM, COMPLIANCE WITH THE PARKS, OPEN SPACE AND MASTER PLAN, AND THEN CLEARLY DEFINING A MAJOR AND A MINOR MODIFICATION.

UM, AND THAT'S THE REASON WE, UM, CHOSE TO EXPLORE THAT IS BECAUSE THIS IS ALREADY FRAMEWORK THAT EXISTS WITHIN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE'RE CARRYING THAT FORWARD.

UM, AND THEN, UH, EXCUSE ME, MINOR MODIFICATION COULD BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY.

THERE'S CRITERIA FOR THAT WHICH WE'LL GO THROUGH IN DETAIL.

AND ALL MAJOR MODIFICATION WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.

SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, ANY NEW PARKS THAT CAME ONLINE WOULD'VE TO GO BACK THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AGAIN, IT WOULD BE A REPETITIVE PROCESS ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS.

SO, STARTING OFF TALKING ABOUT, UM, HOW WE WOULD CODIFY THE PROS PLAN, WHICH IS THE PARKS RECREATION OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN.

UM, THERE IS AN INVENTORY WITHIN THE PROS PLAN AND IT CLASSIFIES OUR PARK FUNCTION CLASSIFICATION, WHICH ARE THINGS LIKE A DESTINATION PARK, A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, URBAN PARK, AND SO FORTH.

UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THOSE A LITTLE BIT.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE PARK IMPROVEMENT CLASSIFICATION AS WELL, UM, CLASSIFYING VARIOUS ELEMENTS WITHIN OUR PARKS.

UM, JUST TO NOTE, AT ANY TIME WE COULD ADD NEW ELEMENTS TO EITHER OF THESE IF WE WANTED TO CREATE A NEW CLASSIFICATION FOR A PARK IMPROVEMENT.

BUT FOR THE SAKE OF THIS CONVERSATION OVERLAY, WE'RE USING WHAT'S EXISTING TODAY.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

SO ACROSS THE TOP, YOU, WE HAVE OUR DIFFERENT, UM, I'M GONNA CALL THEM ELEMENTS OF OR FACILITIES WITHIN EACH OF OUR PARKS AND ALL OF OUR PARKS REPRESENTED ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

UM, AND WE WOULD USE THIS AS OUR STARTING FRAMEWORK FOR WHAT IS APPROPRIATE WITHIN EACH OF OUR PERKS.

SO THEN, UM, LOOKING AT THE CRITERIA FOR WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A MINOR MODIFICATION, UM, WHERE WE WERE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS CRITERIA, AND I THINK IT WAS VERY CLEAR, IS WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THROUGH THE CRITERIA AND THROUGH A MINOR MODIFICATION PROCESS, WHICH COULD BE, UH, APPROVED BY STAFF AND EXPEDITED QUICKLY, IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS QUICKLY ANY MAJOR MAINTENANCE CONCERNS OR SAFETY HAZARDS.

UM, WE DIDN'T WANT TO ADD 120 DAY PROCESS ONTO SOMETHING THAT COULD BE A SAFETY HAZARD IN ONE OF OUR PUBLIC SPACES.

SO, UM, THIS IS THE CRITERIA FOR WHAT ITEMS COULD BE, UM, APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY.

SO ANYTHING THAT IS CONSIDERED A MINOR PARK MODIFICATION WITHIN THE SCOPE IS ANY EXISTING PARK IMPROVEMENT.

AND JUST AS A REMINDER, IT WOULD BE ANY OF THE ITEMS ACROSS THE TOP OF THIS TABLE, UM, WITHIN EACH INDIVIDUAL PARK THAT ALSO MEETS TWO OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA.

SO FIRST ONE IS IT'S ALREADY FUNDED, SO THAT MEANS IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL VIA A BUDGET PROCESS.

UM, IT IS INTENDED TO, UM, PROTECT AGAINST HEALTH OR OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS, UM, MAINTAIN OR CORRECT DAMAGE OR DETERIORATION

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DUE TO, UM, VARIOUS SORTS OF, YOU KNOW, DETERIORATION OR STRUCTURAL SOUNDNESS, MAKING SURE OUR FACILITIES ARE SAFE, UM, EXPANDING, ALTERING, OR MODIFYING, UH, NO MORE THAN 50%, UM, BOTH THE STRUCTURE OR THE IMPROVEMENT OR IS AN EXISTING CON UH, CONDITION THAT IS A CONCERN OF PUBLIC THAT HAS A PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT.

EXCUSE ME.

SO, UH, I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH THIS 'CAUSE IT GETS A LITTLE CONVOLUTED, BUT, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, A PAVILION IS AN APPROVED ELEMENT WITHIN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.

UM, LET'S SAY THAT, UM, AT THE PAVILION THERE WAS ROOF DAMAGE DUE TO, UM, RAIN, AND THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT NEEDING TO RESEAL THE, THE, UH, ROOF, UM, THE, EXCUSE ME, THE WOOD ELEMENTS ON THE ROOF.

UM, WE WOULD EVALUATE IF THAT COULD BE COMPLETED UNDER A MINOR MODIFICATION, IF IT COULD BE FUNDED VIA ALREADY FUNDED, UM, OR ALREADY ALLOCATED FUNDS FOR MAINTENANCE.

UM, AND THEN REVIEW THE REST OF THESE CRITERIA IF IT FIT UNDER THE REST OF THEM.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT WAS A MATTER OF, UM, SUCH SIGNIFICANT DETERIORATION THAT IT MO UM, IT, UM, WAS POTENTIALLY AN ISSUE OF MAKING THE, UM, STRUCTURE INHA UNHA INHABITABLE, UM, AND THAT WE NEEDED TO REMOVE INDIVIDUALS FROM THAT STRUCTURE.

SO FROM THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO FOREGO THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS IN ORDER TO CORRECT IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

UM, IF IT DIDN'T MEET THESE CRITERIA, THAT WOULD THEN DEFER TO A MAJOR, UM, MODIFICATION PROCESS, WHICH I'M GONNA GET TO MOMENTARILY.

SO THEN JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THAT, UH, LOOKS LIKE STREAMLINED, I'VE KIND OF EXPLAINED THIS IN MY EXAMPLE, BUT WE WOULD IDENTIFY A NEED THAT COULD BE VIA STAFF IDENTIFICATION, A FIX IT COMPLAINT OR OTHERWISE.

UM, IF IT WAS NOT ALREADY, WE COULD EITHER IDENTIFY FUNDING OR POTENTIALLY WE WOULD NEED TO ALLOCATE FUNDING FOR THAT.

THAT COULD BE THROUGH A MAINTENANCE FUND OR OTHERWISE.

UM, COUNCIL DOES HAVE TO CONSIDER THOSE MAINTENANCE, UH, DOLLARS VIA THE BUDGET PROCESS.

AND THEN WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IMPLEMENTED IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR CODES AND POLICIES AND WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT IT IS IDENTIFIED TO THE PUBLIC VIA NEWSLETTER OTHERWISE, AND SOCIAL MEDIA AND SO FORTH.

THAT IS, UH, A PROCESS WE GENERALLY FOLLOW TODAY.

SO EXAMPLES OF A MINOR PARK MODIFICATION THAT, THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE RECENTLY THAT WOULD FOLLOW WITHIN THIS CATEGORY WOULD BE RESURFACING THE EXISTING FOUNTAINS AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.

UM, THOSE WERE THE, UM, THE SURFACE, THE, EXCUSE ME, THE INTERIOR SURFACE OF THOSE PONDS IS FLAKING AWAY.

SO THOSE HAD TO BE RESURFACED.

THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A MAINTENANCE.

UM, THERE COULD BE REPLACING BENCHES AT NORTH ADDISON PARK.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME RUSTING ISSUES AND THOSE NEEDED TO BE REPLACED, UM, OR RESAW ESTABLISHMENT AT LATEX PARK.

SO THEN, UH, MOVING ON TO WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A MAJOR PARK MODIFICATION.

THIS WOULD BE, UM, THE CREATION OR EXPANSION OF ANY PARK IMPROVEMENT THAT, ONCE AGAIN, REFERENCING BACK TO THE PROS PLAN, UM, THAT CHART THAT WE LOOKED AT.

SO THIS WOULD BE INTRODUCING A NEW PARK ELEMENT THAT IS NOT INCLUDED ON THAT TABLE TO ANY OF OUR PARKS.

UM, ANY PROJECT THAT IS A CIP BOND FUNDED OR THIRD PARTY GRANT FUNDED PROJECT, OR ANY PROJECT THAT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE CRITERIA OF A MINOR MODIFICATION.

SO ONCE AGAIN, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WITH THE MAJOR PARK MODIFICATION IS ANYTHING THAT WAS NOT AN IMMEDIATE SAFETY CONCERN OR WAS NOT MAINTENANCE WOULD DEFAULT TO MAJOR.

THAT WAS THE INTENT HERE.

SO EXAMPLES OF THIS, UM, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE THE LILAC POND IMPROVEMENT, THE, UM, DREDGING PROJECT.

AND, UM, BASICALLY ANY IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ABSENCE CIRCLE, VISION PLAN PROCESS GENERALLY, UM, AND THE BOSQUE PARK IMPROVEMENTS, THOSE WOULD ALL BE EXAMPLES THAT WOULD FALL WITHIN THIS MAJOR, UM, PARK MODIFICATION CATEGORY.

SO WHAT THIS MAY LOOK LIKE, UM, IS WE WOULD IDENTIFY A PROJECT VIA A MASTER PLAN OR PARK DEDICATION OR OTHERWISE, UM, THROUGH COMMUNITY INPUT LIKELY AND STAFF WOULD BRING FORWARD A, UM, RECOMMENDATION AND A BUDGET PROCESS.

CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THAT VIA A BUDGET PROCESS AND ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS.

WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO, UM, INITIATE LIKELY PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO HELP US, UM, PLAN FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT INPUT, UM, AND THEN THE

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PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, OBVIOUSLY.

SO IT WOULD, UM, HAVE TO GO THROUGH ADDITIONAL INPUT PROCESSES.

SO SOME OTHER THINGS, OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, WHICH I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT STAFF WAS REVIEWING WHILE CREATING THIS FRAMEWORK INCLUDED OUR EXISTING PARK POLICY AND GUIDELINES, OUR TOWN BUDGETING PROCEDURES, AND THEN OUR CURRENT, UM, DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

UM, SO ONCE AGAIN, OUR CURRENT POLICY AND GUIDELINES, UM, THESE REALLY INFLUENCE HOW WE UTILIZE, UM, AND RECOMMEND IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR PARKS, INCLUDING THE COUNCIL STRATEGIC PLANS AND OTHER, UH, LONG RANGE PLANNING POLICIES.

THAT'S HOW WE WOULD BRING FORWARD NEW PROJECTS FOR CONSIDERATION.

UM, OUR EXISTING PARK POLICY ALREADY EXISTS IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

THIS IS CHAPTER 58.

UM, IT, UM, PROVIDES OPERATIONAL STANDARDS FOR THINGS LIKE HOURS OF OPERATION, PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES WITHIN PARKS, UM, DESIGNATE AREAS AND SO FORTH, UM, THAT TRADITIONALLY DON'T, UH, RESIDE WITHIN A ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.

THOSE TYPICALLY ARE OPERATIONAL STANDARDS.

AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, UM, JUST LOOKING AT THE ADOPTED BUDGET, THIS IS THE, UM, KIND OF THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE BUDGET FOR, UM, THE PARKS TEAM.

SO WE, THERE ARE, UM, DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE FUNDS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED FOR THINGS LIKE MOWING AND IRRIGATING AND SO FORTH.

UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY MAJOR PROJECTS SUCH AS A CIP WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A MUCH, UH, MORE ROBUST PROCESS AND, AND THEN QUICKLY TOUCHING ON.

UM, AND THE REASON, AND WE REFERENCED BACK TO THIS FOR THE SAKE OF NOT BEING REPETITIVE, IS WE ALREADY HAVE LANDSCAPE BUFFERING AND, AND FENCING STANDARDS WITHIN THE UDC.

UM, THOSE APPLY TO ALL DEVELOPMENT AND THOSE WOULD ALSO BE APPLICABLE HERE.

UM, THOSE INCLUDES THINGS LIKE LANDSCAPE, AREA TREE MITIGATION, BUFFERING, IRRIGATION STANDARDS, ET CETERA.

SO WE WOULD REFERENCE BACK TO THOSE AND UTILIZE THOSE ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS AS WELL FOR OUR PUBLIC PARK SPACES.

SO RIGHT NOW STAFF SEEKS FEEDBACK ON THAT FRAMEWORK.

UM, ONCE WE GET DIRECTION ON A FRAMEWORK, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN ADOPTION PROCESS, UM, AND OBVIOUSLY IDENTIFY ANY, UH, APPLICABLE PROPERTIES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ADDED TO THIS OVERLAY DISTRICT.

THANK YOU, LESLIE.

UM, BEFORE WE GET INTO EVERYBODY ELSE, I, I MIGHT BE MISSING SOMETHING HERE.

I PROBABLY AM.

IT SEEMED LIKE WE'RE PUTTING A, TRYING TO PUT A LOT OF POLICY AND PROCESS IN PLACE TO DO THINGS, BASICALLY LIKE WE'RE ALREADY DOING THEM.

AM I MISSING SOMETHING THERE? BECAUSE YOU, WHAT YOU DESCRIBED IS KINDA THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING.

I'M JUST, I'M KIND OF CONFUSED AS TO WHAT THIS, WHAT THIS ACCOMPLISHES.

SO I MEAN, THE BIG CHANGE, AND THIS IS WHAT COUNCIL DIRECTED, WAS ESSENTIALLY IT'S SAYING EVERY TIME WE MAKE A, WE, WE WERE CALLING A MAJOR MODIFICATION, BUT DO A BIG PROJECT AT A PARK, IT'S GOING THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AND GOING TO P AND Z AND GOING TO COUNCIL EVERY TIME WE DO THAT CHANGE.

SO IT'S STATUS QUO, BUT EXCEPT FOR THAT BIG CAVEAT THAT EVERY PROJECT THAT WE DO, ANY CHANGE, WE MAKE IT APART GOES THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND THAT WAS THE DIRECTION THAT WE GOT FROM COUNCIL TO BRING THAT BACK.

YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY, FOR THE MOST PART, WE DON'T FOLLOW THE STATE MANDATED PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, WHICH IS MANDATED FOR ZONING.

UM, BUT BY ADDING THIS AS A ZONING OVERLAY, WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE STATE MANDATED PROCESS, WHICH IS THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, EXCUSE ME, BEFORE PLANNING A ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC NOTICE.

MARLON, OH, I'M SORRY.

COMMUNICATE THAT WELL ENOUGH.

RANDY, THANK YOU.

I, I, I THINK I WAS ONE, MAYBE THE, UM, THE LOUDEST ON WANTING TO GET SOME KIND OF REZONING, UH, FOR OUR PARKS FROM THIS UDC.

AND I MAY BE MISUNDERSTANDING ALSO, OR MAY HAVE BEEN MISUNDERSTOOD ALSO.

I'M NOT WANTING TO PUT A, A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT LAYERS ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.

I WANT OUR PARKS AND GREEN SPACES PROTECTED, AND I WANTED ANY OTHER ZONING POSSIBILITIES, TAKING OFF THE PARK SPACES TO WHERE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK IS NOT ZONED M FOUR FOR MULTIFAMILY POSSIBILITIES IN THE FUTURE.

THAT WAS MY SIMPLE OBJECTION OVER THE, THE LAST THING IS THAT OUR PARKS AND GREEN SPACES WERE CLUMPED IN WITH WHATEVER WAS ENCIRCLING THEM.

AND MAYBE I DIDN'T

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I, I'M WITH THE MAYOR.

I THINK THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, OVER THE YEARS ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS GREAT.

IT'S JUST THE FACT I WANTED THAT LAND PROTECTED FROM WHAT I THINK THE WORDS YOU USED WAS THE CLOSEST ZONING OR WHAT TOUCHED ITS BOUNDARIES OR WHATEVER.

AND I WANTED PARKS.

I STILL WANT PARKS AND GREEN SPACES TO HAVE THEIR OWN ZONING.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT WAS MY SIMPLE REQUEST AND THAT'S STILL MY SIMPLE REQUEST TODAY.

CHRIS, ALONG THE SAME LINES, I, BECAUSE I WAS GONNA ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION.

HOW ARE SOME OF THESE DECISIONS BEING MADE NOW? LIKE, I KNOW I, I SHOULD KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE YOUR PRESENTATION BREAKS IT OUT, MINOR AND MAJOR.

IF SOMETHING WAS TO FALL UNDER THE MAJOR CATEGORY, HOW ARE WE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS NOW? DO UM, ARE YOU ASKING LIKE HOW A PROJECT COMES FORWARD OR, OR, WELL, DOES IT, DOES IT GO THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING AND COUNCIL RIGHT NOW? UM, SO IT TRADITIONALLY DOES NOT GO THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING IF IT IS AN EXISTING PUBLIC PARK.

SO, UM, TO CLARIFY THAT THE, UM, THE AMLE TREE HOUSE, UM, AS A RECENT EXAMPLE, THAT PARK SPACE DID GO THROUGH PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL AS A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT CASE THAT A DEVELOPER IN THAT CASE BROUGHT FORWARD THAT PROJECT.

AND AS A PART OF THAT PROJECT, AGREED TO DEDICATE RIGHT, HOWEVER MANY ACRES THAT WAS.

AND THEY DID, THEY DID REVIEW IT ALONG WITH THAT PROJECT, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY CAME TO CITY COUNCIL.

UM, BUT LET'S JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, USE, UM, THE, UH, THE LILAC POND RESURFACING PROJECT THAT DID NOT GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING.

THAT WAS, UM, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE, I DON'T, THAT ONE ISN'T WOULD BE CONSIDERED MAJOR.

UM, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS ON IT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT ONE, UM, DIDN'T HAVE MAJOR CHANGES.

IT WAS MORE OF A, BUT IT WAS A MAJOR CAPITAL EXPENSE DUE TO THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.

AND, UM, BUT IT DIDN'T HAVE MAJOR DESIGN MODIFICATIONS.

SO, BUT THAT PROJECT DID NOT GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

IT ONLY CAME TO CITY COUNCIL FOR PRIMARILY BUDGETING, UM, CONSIDERATION.

BUT THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY A, A DECISION THAT AT THE TIME THE CITY COUNCIL MADE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT MAINTENANCE PROJECT.

BUT WITH THE AMLI PROJECT, WE STILL HAD A VOICE IN THE PROJECT.

WE STILL WERE ABLE TO DIRECT ON WHAT WE THOUGHT.

WOULD BE OUR VISION.

UM, AND THEN HOW WOULD SOMETHING LIKE THIS IF SOMEONE WANTED TO MAKE A DONATION, LIKE A SIGNIFICANT DONATION TO ONE OF OUR PARKS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE, TREES, A PAVILION, SOMETHING, UM, DOES, DOES, DOES NOW IT HAVE TO GO THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING AND COUNCIL? YEAH.

SO YES.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES.

SO LET'S SAY SOMEONE WANTED TO DEDICATE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO CONSTRUCT A STAGE OR, UM, A PER, LIKE A PERMANENT STAGE.

UM, AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, THAT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT A, WITH UNDER THIS NEW FRAMEWORK, THAT COUNCIL ALONE COULD ACCEPT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT AND ACCEPT THAT DEVELOPMENT, UM, PROPOSAL OR THAT, THAT IMPROVEMENT PROPOSAL, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PUBLIC, UH, HEARING PROCESS.

SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE NOTICED, UM, WHICH IS, AND THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UH, FOR, IN A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN CITY COUNCIL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, SO ULTIMATELY, AND THERE'S MORE, UM, THERE'S MORE FORMAL PUBLIC INPUT.

NOW, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK, YOU KNOW, TOO MUCH ON A HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO.

I WOULD ASSUME IF SOMEONE WAS DONATING A SIGNIFICANT SUM OF MONEY, UM, TOWN AS WE HAVE HISTORICALLY, WOULD DO SOME SORT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS FOR THAT.

UM, BUT ONCE AGAIN, THIS FRAMEWORK WOULD FORMALIZE THAT AND BE DICTATED BY STATE LAW.

WELL, IS THERE ANY WAY, UM, TO KEEP SOME OF THESE PARKLANDS PROTECTED, LIKE RANDY MENTIONED, AND NOT GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS? YEAH.

SO THEY ALREADY ARE PROTECTED UNDER STATE AND FEDERAL LAW.

I THINK WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION.

SO IT'S, UM, WHAT, CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT IT IS? IT SAYS THAT ONCE IT'S DEDICATED AS PARK LAND, IT CAN NO LONGER DO ANYTHING WITHOUT A REFERENDUM.

IS THAT ACCURATE? YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.

UNDER, UM, CHAPTER 2 53, EXCUSE ME.

2 53, UM, THE, ONCE THE TOWN, THE TOWN IS USED PARK, UH, OR OPEN SPACE FOR PUBLIC PARKLAND PURPOSES, THAT'S WHEN ESSENTIALLY THE PROTECTION VESTS.

AND SO IF WE'VE USED IT, IF WE'VE, YOU KNOW, DESIGNATED IT FOR THAT PURPOSE, STATE LAW SAYS THE CITIZENS, UH, WOULD, WOULD BE ENTITLED TO, UM, UH, VOTE ON IF WE WERE TO USE THAT FOR PRIVATE PURPOSES.

EXCUSE ME.

AND I, I MISSPOKE.

IT IS NOT STATE AND FEDERAL LAW.

IT IS STATE LAW AND THE TOWN CHARTER THAT IT SAYS THAT.

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I, I LIKE WHAT'S ON THIS SLIDE 15.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MINOR, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAJOR MODIFICATIONS.

SO, SO IF, IF YOU, IF YOU WERE LIVING AROUND, UM, ADJACENT TO OR IN AN AREA OF A, OF A, OF A PARK THAT WAS, UH, MAYBE AT THE TIME JUST A LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, UM, WHERE YOU'D SIT DOWN AND, AND SO LET'S SAY WE WANTED TO DO A MAJOR OVERHAUL AND MAKE THAT SOME TYPE OF MIXED USE, ALL KINDS OF STUFF GOING ON.

UM, I LIKE THIS PROCESS BECAUSE IT WOULD VET THAT OUT WITH A COMMUNITY, PNZ AND CITY COUNCIL.

UM, AND, AND WE WOULD HAVE NO SURPRISES.

SO, UM, I'M, I'M FOR, AND AGAIN, MAJOR, NOT MINOR, BUT I'M, I'M FOR WHAT WE'VE, WHAT YOU'VE OUTLINED HERE ON SLIDE 15, DARREN.

SO, UM, DO OTHER, IS THIS SIMILAR TO MODELS THAT OTHER CITIES USE? UM, THERE ARE ONLY A HANDFUL IN THE COUNTRY THAT REGULATE PARKS IN THIS WAY.

UM, THIS IS NOT A MODEL THAT WE HAVE.

UM, SO I GUESS I WILL SAY THE FRAMEWORK IS MODELED AFTER A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES BASED ON HOW THEY SEPARATED MAINTENANCE AND SAFETY, WHICH WAS PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY ONE OF OUR, UM, TOP MOST PRIORITIES FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE IS WE REALLY DIDN'T WANNA PUT OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE WE LOCKED OURSELVES INTO A, UH, 90 TO 120 DAY PROCESS FOR A SAFETY CONCERN THAT WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS, UM, IMMEDIATELY.

UM, SO I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, COMPONENT IS, IS IS COMMON AMONG THE, THE FEW THAT WE, WE DID IDENTIFY.

UM, I KNOW THAT IT WAS, UH, ALMOST UNANIMOUS, UH, ON THE COUNCIL TO PROTECT OUR PARKS.

AND I THINK, UH, JUST TO SAY THAT IS EASIER.

AND WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A PROCESS TO DO THAT, THEN WE START GETTING TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

UM, SO I, I, I THINK THIS PROTECTS PARKS.

I THINK IT GIVES IT THE VISIBILITY AND THE NOTICE THAT'S NEEDED, UH, FOR ANY CHANGES COMING TO A PARK.

UH, THAT, AND, AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO DO THAT.

BUT ALSO, UM, IT, IT'S RECORD KEEPING.

SO IT, IT'S GONNA KEEP A HISTORY OF THAT CHANGE TO THAT PARK VERSUS, HUH.

I WONDER WHEN THAT GOT THERE.

I DON'T REMEMBER.

THAT WAS 10 YEARS AGO.

WHAT, WHAT? SO I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A BETTER, UM, UH, HISTORICAL REFERENCE OF, OF HOW WE GOT HERE.

SO THOSE, THOSE ARE, I THINK, THREE THINGS THAT THIS PROCESS BRINGS IN A, THE STRUCTURE BRINGS INTO PLACE.

I DON'T LIKE EXTRA BUREAUCRACY, BUT WE WANTED TO PROTECT PARKS.

AND WE CAN EITHER PROTECT 'EM JUST INFORMALLY AND SAY WE LOVE PARKS AND JUST HOPEFULLY WE DON'T LET ANYTHING SLIP THROUGH, UH, OR WE HAVE A FORMAL PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOW AND, UM, THINGS DON'T HAPPEN UNLESS THEY FOLLOW THIS PROCESS.

I LIKE THE VISIBILITY, UH, THE NOTICE.

AND I THINK IT ACHIEVE, ACHIEVE THE DIRECT, THE OBJECTIVE OF PROTECTING THE PARKS, UM, FROM CHANGES, UH, UH, OR LARGE CHANGES.

HOWARD, PRIOR TO ADOPTING THE UUD C MM-HMM .

WE HAD OTHER CODES IN PLACE.

DID WE HAVE PROTECTION ON THE PARKS OF THIS NATURE? WE DO.

WE HAD NO PROTECTION AT ALL.

UH, JUST STATE LAW AND TOWN CHARTER, WHICH REQUIRED THE REFERENDUM, BUT WE HAVE NO ZONING DISTRICT.

SO WE, NOTHING LIKE THIS TO CLARIFY.

SO THE UDC, UM, REQUIRED A ZONING MAP, AND WHEN WE GOT INTO THE MAP, WE GOT INTO THE PARKS AND REALIZED THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A SPECIFIC ZONING.

'CAUSE I WAS IN FAVOR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OF HAVING THEIR OWN ZONE ALTOGETHER, WHICH WOULD'VE EVEN BEEN STRICTER.

I JUST WANNA PROTECT THE PARKS.

SO I AGREE WITH DARREN.

I AGREE WITH, WITH, UH, MARLON, I THINK THAT, THAT WE NEED THE STRUCTURE, SO I'M STILL IN FAVOR OF IT.

THANK YOU, BRANDY, REAL QUICK, UH, ONCE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF I MISCOMMUNICATED OR I WOULD BE DISAPPOINTED.

I MINOR, MINOR MODIFICATIONS OR MINOR REPAIRS REQUIRED 120 DAY PERIOD, THAT WOULD BE UNACCEPTABLE TO ME.

AND UNDER THIS FRAMEWORK, THEY DO NOT.

OKAY, PERFECT.

AND YEAH, SO WHEN YOU, THAT SHOCKED ME WHEN YOU SAID UNDER WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, THAT IT WOULD BE A 90 OR 120 DAY PROCESS IF A STORM RIPPED THE ROOF OFF OF SOMETHING AND WE COULDN'T REPAIR IT.

NO, WE, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, SORRY.

MAYBE I MIGHT HAVE MISSPOKE.

THAT'S THE OPPOSITE.

WE WANT TO, UH, LIKE A MAJOR PROJECT THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE, WE DESIRE TO DO.

SOME TREES DOWN, BLOWS SOME TREES DOWN, WE DON'T WANNA STOP IN WHAT WE'RE DOING IN ORDER TO CLEAN THAT UP.

UM, THAT IN THAT CASE WE HAVE, WE CAN BUDGET TIME TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, IF THERE'S A MAJOR STORM THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, KNOCKS, KNOCKS

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BUT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE THAT'S A SAFETY CONCERN.

SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS WOULD FALL UNDER MINOR COMPLETELY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

AND THE MINOR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT WOULD TAKE 120 DAY UNDER WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO HERE.

SO NO, THE EVERYTHING UNDER MINOR WOULD BE US ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL THAT WE COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, SEND STAFF AND SAY, GO ADDRESS THIS RIGHT NOW.

UM, I MEAN, THERE COULD BE A PROCESS INVOLVED TO ACQUIRE, WHETHER IT'S EQUIPMENT OR TOOLS TO ACHIEVE THE JOB, BUT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO BEFORE COUNCIL.

P AND Z.

THE THING THAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED WITH, AND I'LL REITERATE AGAIN, I JUST WANT PARKS TO HAVE ITS OWN ZONING AND IT'S THE MAJOR ISSUES LIKE A COMMERCIAL ENTITY WE'RE, YOU KNOW, I, I HEARD TALKS MAYBE ONE DAY WE WANT TO PUT ANOTHER RESTAURANT INSIDE ONE OF OUR PARKS.

A, A MAJOR, SOMETHING MAJOR, LIKE BUILDING A NEW STRUCTURE MM-HMM .

FOR A COMMERCIAL ENTITY TO COME IN AND SELL SURFBOARDS OUT OF OR SOMETHING.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE, IN MY OPINION, A PROCESS.

AND IT DOES.

AND THAT'S RISK FRAMEWORK.

SO ANYTHING, BUT I WILL ALSO SAY I DON'T WANT THESE PARKS TO BE ZONED MULTIFAMILY FOURS OR RESIDENTIAL ONES.

I WANT THEM TO HAVE THEIR OWN PARK ZONING AND, AND I'LL LEAVE AT THAT IN, IN MAJOR.

IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN FIXING A ROOF.

AND JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION, SO AS IT EXISTS TODAY, NOW ONCE AGAIN, I'M GONNA REITERATE EVERYTHING CAN BE AMENDED THROUGH PNC AND COUNCIL ACTION, BUT AS IT WOULD EXIST TODAY, THE ONLY, I'M GONNA CALL THEM USES, AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY USES, UM, THAT COULD BE PERMITTED WITHIN A PARK, ARE THOSE THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ON THE TOP OF THIS CHART.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, PUBLIC RESTROOMS, AND THIS IS DIRECTLY FROM THE PROS PLAN.

UM, I APOLOGIZE, IT'S SO SMALL.

, UM, ON THE VERY, UM, ONE OF THE ITEMS IS PUBLIC RESTROOMS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE COULD NOT, AND I, WHEN I SAY WE, I MEAN STAFF COULD NOT GO AND ADD PUBLIC RESTROOMS TO, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M LOOKING AT CELESTIAL PARK BECAUSE IT IS NOT IDENTIFIED AS AN ELEMENT THAT IS PERMITTED AT THAT PARK.

SO IN ORDER TO ADD THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE MAJOR PROCESS.

SO ANYTHING THAT'S NOT IDENTIFIED HERE AS A, AN AN APPROVED ELEMENT OR USE, UM, WOULD REQUIRE A MAJOR PROCESS.

SO YOU AGREE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE? YEAH.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT CRITICIZING, I JUST WANNA PROVIDE FURTHER CLARIFICATION OF HOW, HOW LIMITING IT IS FROM A USE PERSPECTIVE OR AN ELEMENT PERSPECTIVE.

I'M, I WASN'T CRITICIZING IT'S, UH, INAPPROPRIATE, JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.

THEN JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M, UH, ON BOARD WITH THE CHANGES THAT ARE MADE AND JUST READY TO MOVE FORWARD.

DARREN, ARE THERE ANY UNINTENDED OUTCOMES? LESLIE? UH, I, I KNOW IT ADDS SOME BUREAUCRACY TO IT.

UH, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT STRUCTURES WHAT WE ARE DOING AND HOW WE, WHAT WE ARE SHOULD BE DOING.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT, THAT I'M MISSING? BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER SOMEBODY SAYS, WE'RE GONNA DO A WHOLE PROCESS HERE, AND YOU TRY TO, YOU KNOW, DUMB IT DOWN FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND, THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT I'M LIKE, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS GONNA BE THE, THE OUTCOME, UNINTENDED OUTCOMES THAT MAYBE WE DIDN'T ASK ABOUT.

UH, YEAH.

SO SOME IMMEDIATE, UM, THAT COME TO MIND IS IT'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL STAFF TIME TO PROCESS THESE.

UM, OBVIOUSLY GO CREATING THE STAFF REPORT, CREATING THE NOTICE, GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, SCHEDULING THE MEETINGS, ADDITIONAL ITEMS FOR P AND Z AND COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

UM, SO THAT'S ONE ITEM.

THE OTHER ITEM IS IF ON SOME OF THESE BIG PROJECTS WHERE THEY ARE, UM, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ARE INCLUDED, UM, THOSE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ARE GOING TO CHARGE US A FEE TO GO BACK THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SO IT'S GONNA BE ADDITIONAL COST ON THE TOWN SIDE, UM, TO, UM, ACQUIRE THOSE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

'CAUSE THIS IS ADDITIONAL STEPS FOR THEM.

UM, AND JUST IN GENERAL, LIKE, IT COULD JUST ADD A COUPLE MONTHS TO OUR, OUR ANY IMPROVEMENTS, MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS.

BUT LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THAT'S STUFF THAT WE, IF WE KNOW IN ADVANCE, WE CAN BAKE INTO OUR PROCESS AND SET THAT EXPECTATION IN ADVANCE.

IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THESE THINGS WOULD BE HAPPENING ANYWAY IN THE INFORMAL PROCESS WE HAVE NOW ON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

UH, BUT THOSE, THOSE ARE GOOD THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT.

THAT WE KNOW ABOUT STATE LAW AND, AND, AND, UH, TOWN CHARTER, THAT THE, THAT THE PARK PROPERTIES ARE PROTECTED.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, SO IT JUST SEEMS, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT WE'RE JUST OVERLY, OVERLY COMPLICATING THE PROCESS NOW AND, AND SLOWING DOWN THE PROCESS AND ADDING ADDITIONAL EXPENSE ALONG THE WAY TO, TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, WHEN WE HAD THE DISCUSSION BEFORE, I WASN'T, I DIDN'T REALLY SEE THE NEED FOR, TO HAVE SEPARATE PARK ZONING FOR THE REASONS

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SO, UM, I JUST, I'M REALLY NOT IN FAVOR OF, OF MOVING FORWARD ON THIS, BUT I, I KNOW THE COUNCIL PROBABLY IS.

AND SO, UH, SO BE IT.

UM, BUT IT, I, IF, IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN ACCOMPLISH WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS AND MAKE IT AS LEAST CLUNKY AS POSSIBLE AND, AND STREAMLINE IT, GET RID OF SOME OF, SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL COST AND TIME.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE.

UM, BUT UH, I WOULD JUST SAY DO WHAT YOU CAN WITH THAT.

WILL DO.

ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT CAN HELP YOU GOING FORWARD? I THINK WE GOT FEEDBACK.

I THINK WE GOT IT.

YEAH, WE'LL BE, UM, WE'LL GO BACK AND FINALIZE DRAFTING THIS AND WE'LL BE BACK LATER THIS YEAR FOR PROPO OR PROPOSED ADOPTION.

FOUR E, PRESENT AND DISCUSS.

TODAY WE'LL HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FIRST, JUST TO KNOW.

THANK YOU, LESLIE.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT, ITEM

[e. Present and discuss Addison Airport FY 2026 Q1 Year to Date Report.]

ADDISON AIRPORT FY 2026 Q1 YEAR TO DATE REPORT.

JAMIE FINALLY GETS HIS TIME.

, A LONG AWAY.

THE NEWLY, AS, UM, SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IN PREVIOUS FRIDAY REPORTS, THE RAZA HANGAR CONSTRUCTION THAT IS GOING ON.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNSEL, JAMIE, DIRECTOR HERE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A COURT QUARTER UPDATE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026.

UH, AS PART OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION, I WILL BE, UH, REVIEWING SOME FISCAL YEAR 25 ACCOMPLISHMENTS, UH, DEPARTMENT UPDATE FISCAL YEAR 26 OBJECTIVES, PROVIDING YOU WITH SOME STATISTICS AND ALSO REVIEWING SOME PROJECTS AND PROGRESS.

AND SO AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR 25 ACCOMPLISHMENTS, UH, A LOT OF THESE ACCOMPLISHMENTS WERE SHARED BACK WITH YOU, UH, BACK IN AUGUST AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

BUT WE DID KICK OFF, UH, AS YOU KNOW, THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, UM, PROCESS.

AND, UH, YOU APPOINTED A STEERING COMMITTEE AND EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE RECRUITED, UH, SEVERAL KEY VACANCIES, INCLUDING YOURS TRULY.

UH, WE ALSO HIRED A DEDICATED REPORTING, UH, ENGAGEMENT OFFICER, AN AIRPORT POLICE OFFICER WHO HAS BEEN VITAL IN, UH, CREATING AND MAINTAINING OUR TENANT RELATIONSHIPS.

UH, WE COMPLETED TAX EIGHT BRAVO EXTENSION.

WE, UH, PARTICIPATED IN A NUMBER OF PROJECTS INCLUDING THE VEHICLE SERVICE ROAD THROUGH, UH, DEVELOPER PARTICIPATION AGREEMENTS, WHICH IS AN AWESOME PROGRAM.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO COORDINATED FACILITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND REDEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY SKY HARBOR PHASE ONE, THE MILLIONAIRE INTERNATIONAL RAMP, AND THEN THE TANGO WHISKEY, WEST GROVE AIR PLAZA APRON, ALONG WITH SOME TAXIWAY UNIFORM IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, AGAIN, AS PART OF A DPA.

MOVING ON TO OUR CURRENT AIRPORT ORGANIZATION CHART.

AS, UH, MANY OF YOU KNOW, WE LOST, UH, SOME KEY TALENT.

UH, RECENTLY WE HAD FOUR RETIREMENTS, WHICH AMONGST THOSE FOUR RETIREMENTS, THEY AVERAGED, UH, 20 YEARS EACH IN TENURE.

SO WE LOST OVER 80 YEARS WORTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE FROM THE AIRPORT.

AND WHILE WE DID, UH, LOSE THAT, UH, WE DID NOW, UM, FILL ALL OF THOSE, UH, VACANT POSITIONS, UH, WITH NO NET, UH, FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT INCREASE.

UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CHART, UM, UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, THE WHITE BOXES REPRESENT EVERYONE WHO IS EITHER NEW TO THE ORGANIZATION OR NEW TO THEIR POSITION.

SO WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN EITHER PROMOTED OR HAVE, UH, COME ONLINE, INCLUDING AGAIN, UH, MYSELF.

UH, SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT ORGANIZATION CHART, AND THERE ARE 15 OF US TOTAL, UM, AT THE AIRPORT.

AND MOVING ON TO FISCAL YEAR 2026 OBJECTIVES, UH, WHICH AGAIN WAS, UH, SHARED IN PART WITH YOU AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

WE WILL CONTINUE, UH, TO SUCCESSFULLY LEAD THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN PROCESS, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS STILL TRACKING TO END, UH, THIS YEAR, UM, BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, IF NOT SOONER.

UH, WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE AIRPORT ENGAGEMENT.

AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE TENANT LUNCH LAST WEEK, WHICH I THANK ALL OF YOU, UH, THAT ATTENDED THAT, UH, EVENT.

AND WE WILL HAVE SIMILAR EVENTS, CONTINUE TO HAVE SIMILAR EVENTS IN THE FUTURE.

UH, WE'VE DONE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING FUEL FARM TO ENHANCE SAFETY AND BEST USE.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE OVERSIGHT OF FACILITY REDEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION, INCLUDING NOW BEGINNING THE DESIGN OF TAXO BRAVO EXTENSION, PHASE TWO, THE CONTINUATION OF THE SKY HARBOR PHASE TWO PROJECT.

UM, WE'LL SEE, UM, HOW THE ATLANTIC AVIATION HANGAR TWO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, UH, COMES ABOUT AND IN

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AS WE FINISH THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, WE WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND, UH, BEGIN SOME REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS, STARTING WITH, UH, FIVE ERIC, UH, THE REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT.

AND THEN WE WILL CONTINUE TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT TEXT WILL UNIFORM, THE FOREST STORM DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, AND, UM, WE WILL MOVE ON NOW TO, UM, THE FISCAL YEAR, UM, 26 FIRST QUARTER AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS.

AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS ARE, UM, BASICALLY DIVIDED INTO TWO CATEGORIES.

SOME ARE VFR RULES, AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME PILOTS IN THE ROOM, SO THEY'LL, UH, UNDERSTAND MORE CLEARLY.

THERE'S VISUAL FLIGHT RULES, AND THAT IS PRIMARILY FOR PILOTS THAT ARE USING, UH, GROUND, UH, REFERENCE POINTS.

THEY'RE LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW, THEY'RE SEEING, UH, USING VISUAL, UH, TO BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE.

AND THEN THERE'S INSTRUMENT FLIGHT RULES AND THAT, UM, WITH PILOTS RELY ON THEIR INSTRUMENTS TO BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE FROM POINT A TO POINT B.

UM, MOST OF THE JET TRAFFIC AT OUR AIRPORT UTILIZE IFR RULES.

MOST OF THE SMALLER GA UTILIZED VFR, THAT'S GENERALLY SPEAKING.

UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, UH, OUR TOTAL OPERATIONS ARE EVEN COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, UH, FISCAL YEAR 25 AT THIS POINT, FIRST QUARTER, UH, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE STRENGTHENED OPERATIONS PRIMARILY ATTRIBUTED TO CONTINUED ACTIVITIES WITH THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS, AS WE HAVE SEEN, UH, IN THE FEW LAST FEW YEARS.

AND THEN AGAIN, JET TRAFFIC CONTINUES TO MAINTAIN THAT INSTRUMENT FREIGHT WALL OPERATION LEVEL.

AND, UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW, OUR TOTAL OPERATIONS, UH, TOTAL 32,444.

AND YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT THE VFR, UM, IS GREATER THAN THE IFR OPERATIONS AT OUR AIRPORT.

WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO, UH, INTERNATIONAL OPERATIONS, WHICH CONTINUE TO BE STRONG.

UH, AS A REMINDER, LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 672 INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS THAT WERE CLEARED AT, UM, THE ADDISON AIRPORT.

THAT CONTINUES TO BE A VERY STRONG, UH, NUMBER.

UM, OUT OF THOSE 672, 587 WERE NON-CANADIAN FLIGHTS.

FOR FIRST QUARTER, WE HAD, UH, 166 INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS CLEAR, UH, CUSTOMS THROUGH OUR FACILITY.

AND AS THE NOTES INDICATE, UH, I HAD A CONVERSATION A FEW MONTHS AGO FROM SOME DALLAS LOVE PERSONNEL THAT INDICATED THAT THEIR FACILITY IS GOING TO BE RENOVATED AT SOME POINT, AND THEY HAD RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION THAT THEY SHOULD VISIT OUR FACILITY BECAUSE OUR FACILITY IS SO WELL BUILT, SO WELL DESIGNED THAT THEY SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER LOOKING OURS SO THAT THEY CAN BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THE CARS.

UM, AND THAT IS JUST A TESTAMENT AS TO, AGAIN, THE DESIGN, UH, GETTING FEEDBACK FROM CUSTOMS AND THE FEEDBACK THAT PILOTS ARE GIVING TO EACH OTHER, WHICH IS INCREASING OUR OPERATIONS, UM, AT CUSTOMS. AND IN TOTAL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART, RIGHT, WE HAD 166 FLIGHTS THAT, UH, ENCAPSULATED 926 PASSENGERS AND 356 CREW MEMBERS THAT WERE PROCESSED AT OUR AIRPORTS CUSTOMS FACILITY, UM, IN FIRST QUARTER OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.

AND AGAIN, HERE IS A GOOD SUMMARY THAT SHOWS SOME OF THE ORIGINS OF THESE FLIGHTS.

THEY COME FROM VERY FAR LOCATIONS, IN SOME CASES, ASIA.

UH, WE RECENTLY, UH, OVER THE WINTER MONTHS HAD, DURING THE SNOW EVENT, ACTUALLY, WE HAD A FLIGHT THAT WAS COMING FROM SOME ISLANDS OFF OF THE OFF OF SPAIN THAT HAD SOME, I WOULD CALL 'EM, VIP PASSENGERS ON BOARD THAT WERE ABLE, WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE BECAUSE WE WERE THE OPEN AIRPORT AT THAT TIME, UH, DURING THE SNOW EVENT.

SO, UM, AGAIN, UM, OUR OPERATIONS FROM INTERNATIONAL ORIGINS ARE VERY BROAD.

THEY'RE COMING FROM MANY DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE TO THE FIRST QUARTER FUEL FLOWAGE.

IN TERMS OF FUEL FLOWAGE, WE PUMPED, UH, A LITTLE BIT OVER 2.5 MILLION GALLONS OF FUEL AT THE ADDISON AIRPORT.

UH, ALMOST 2.4 MILLION GALLONS OF THAT IS JETTY FUEL, WHICH OF COURSE FUELS THE JET AIRCRAFT.

UM, A LITTLE BIT OVER 140,000 GALLONS IS THE AVIATION GAS, ALSO KNOWN AS THE GAS THAT FUELS THE SMALLER GA AIRCRAFT.

UM, IN TERMS OF WHERE WE STAND PERCENTAGE WISE, JET A IS UP 12.3% FROM, UH, LAST YEAR.

AT THE SAME TIME THAT EQUI EQUATES TO 260,000 PLUS ADDITIONAL GALLONS OF JET.

A FUEL

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THAT WAS PUMPED AT OUR AIRPORT COMPARED TO LAST YEAR IN TERMS OF AVIATION GAS WERE, UH, DOWN 7.8% FROM FISCAL YEAR.

THAT EQUATES TO ALMOST 12,000, UH, LESS GALLONS THAT WERE PUMPED OF AVIATION GAS TOGETHER WE'RE UP 11% YEAR OVER YEAR, UM, OR ALMOST 249,000 ADDITIONAL GALLONS OF FUEL THAT WE PUMPED AT OUR AIRPORT IN THE FIRST QUARTER.

WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE ON TO OPERATING REVENUE RIGHT NOW AS WE STAND.

UM, FOR FIRST QUARTER, UH, WE GENERATED ALMOST 2 MILLION, UH, DOLLARS WORTH OF OPERATING REVENUE.

THE MAJORITY OF THAT, UM, COMES FROM MAIL ESTATE.

77%, UH, COMES FROM THE LEASES THAT WE HAVE AT THE AIRPORT.

UH, FUEL FLOWAGE FEES, UH, WAS, UM, A LITTLE BIT OVER 370,000 OR 19% OF TOTAL OPERATING REVENUES.

AND IN OTHER, UM, OUR FEES GENERALLY, A LOT OF THOSE ARE CUSTOMS FEES THAT WE COLLECT FOR THE USE OF CUSTOMS, AND THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 3% OR EQUATED TO 4% IN THE FIRST QUARTER, UH, WITH THAT YEAR OVER YEAR.

IN TERMS OF REAL ESTATE, WE ARE UP 1% IN TERMS OF REVENUE GENERATION.

WE ARE UP OVER 12% ON FUEL FLOWAGE YEAR OVER YEAR.

AND SO TOGETHER TOTAL REVENUE IS, IS UP A LITTLE BIT OVER 1% AT THIS POINT IN FIRST QUARTER.

WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE ON TO AIRPORT PROJECTS.

AND THESE ARE AIRPORT PROJECTS THAT HAVE EITHER BEEN COMPLETED OR ARE IN THE PROCESS, OR ARE IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY ARE NOT, FOR EXAMPLE, AIRPORT SPONSORED PROJECTS.

THEY ARE, UM, DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS FROM A THIRD PARTY.

AND SO RIGHT NOW ON THE MAP, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE SIX LOCATIONS THAT ARE LISTED ON THIS MAP, AND I WILL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM HERE.

UM, THE FIRST ONE IS THE, UH, SHOWING YOU WHAT SKY HARBOR PHASE ONE LOOKS LIKE.

UM, NOW THAT IT'S COMPLETED.

AND AGAIN, UH, THESE WERE SIX HIGH-END EXECUTIVE HANGERS THAT TOTALED A LITTLE BIT OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF, UH, UM, HANGAR SPACE THAT AGAIN, IS FOR CORPORATE EXECUTIVE FLIGHT DEPARTMENTS.

THEY HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL, UM, IN FILLING THESE HANGERS.

THEN YOU HAVE, UH, TAXIWAY BRAVO EXTENSION.

WE EXTENDED TAXIWAY BRAVO TO THE NORTH BY ABOUT, UH, 2,200 FEET.

UM, AND THEN WE, WE SPOKE ABOUT ALSO, AND WE WON'T BE SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER HERE ABOUT EXTENDING IT FURTHER AS PART OF PHASE TWO, WE ALSO DID THE VEHICLE SERVICE ROAD AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT.

AGAIN, A LOT OF THESE WERE DONE THROUGH THOSE DPA PROGRAMS, UH, THAT WE HAVE.

BUT WE, UH, COMPLETED APPROXIMATELY 965 HEAT OF NEW VEHICLE SERVICE ROAD.

A LOT OF YOU HAVE BEEN OVER, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ATTENDED LIEUTENANT LUNCH, YOU WERE ABLE TO DRIVE ON JIMMY DOLO, WHICH LOOKS GREAT.

UM, I APPRECIATE ALL THE ASSISTANCE THAT WE GOT FROM PUBLIC WORKS, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, BEING ABLE TO MANAGE THIS PROJECT THAT WROTE LOOKS, FANTABULOUS, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS A REAL WORD, UM, ADDISON AIRPORT.

UH, OTHER, UM, PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON THAT ARE BEING SPONSORED BY OTHER GROUPS ARE THE RAZA HANGAR, WHICH AGAIN, IS AT, UH, 1 5 5 0 0 WRIGHT BROTHERS.

AND THEY BROKE GROUND A FEW MONTHS AGO.

AND THEY WILL HAVE AN A HANGAR THERE THAT WILL HAVE OVER 27,000, UH, SQUARE FEET OF USABLE SPACE.

UH, RIGHT NOW THEY OWN TWO AIRCRAFT THAT ARE BASED AT, UM, THE ADDISON AIRPORT.

AND THAT, UM, IS A PRIVATELY OWNED, IS PRIVATELY OWNED LAND, AND IT WILL HAVE, UH, THROUGH THE FENCE AGREEMENT WITH THE AIRPORT.

UM, AND THEN AS, AS I INDICATED RIGHT NOW, SKY HARBOR PHASE TWO IS, UM, TAKING PLACE, AND THAT WILL ADD FOUR NEW ADDITIONAL HANGERS THAT WILL TOTAL OVER 80,000 SQUARE FEET IN TOTAL SPACE.

ONE VERY IMPORTANT THING THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING, UM, UH, SINCE I ARRIVED, UH, HERE AT ADDISON, IS REALLY REMOTING THE GOOD NEIGHBOR INITIATIVE THAT WE HAVE.

SO, UM, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A NOISE SENSITIVE AREA OVER IN ADDISON EAST, AND WE HAVE, I WOULD SAY, REVIVED THE INFORMATION, UH, FOR OUR TENANTS, UH, ABOUT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR INITIATIVE, WHAT IT IS, WHAT IT'S MEANT TO DO.

UM, AND WE HAVE REALLY HAD A LOT OF GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH A NUMBER OF OUR TENANTS, THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS.

I COME TO MIND RIGHT AWAY THAT WE HAVE REENGAGED THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS, AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY, UH, GOOD, UH,

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IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH TO BE ABLE TO AVOID FLYING OVER THE NOISE SENSITIVE AREA.

AS AN EXAMPLE, EVERY WEEK WE PROVIDE THEM WITH WEEKLY PERFORMANCE REPORTS THAT INDICATE HOW MANY TIMES THEY MAY HAVE PENETRATED THE NOISE SENSITIVE AREA.

AND EACH AND EVERY TIME THEY LOOK INTO THOSE REPORTS, UM, TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED IN CERTAIN INSTANCES, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL MAY HAVE, UM, INSTRUCTED THEM TO FLY IN THOSE AREAS, BUT THEY LOOK INTO THEM AND IF SOMETHING CAN BE CORRECTED, THEY FOLLOW UP WITH THAT APPLICABLE INSTRUCTOR WITH, UH, THAT STUDENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR INITIATIVE SO THAT THEY CAN PERFORM BETTER.

BUT THAT IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN TERMS OF NOISE.

WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS NOW WITH THE TOWER, UH, IN TERMS ABOUT, UH, THE GOOD NEIGHBOR INITIATIVE.

AND THAT WAS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OUR TOWER RECENTLY GOT A NEW MANAGER, UH, THAT CAME FROM DALLAS LOVE.

AND SO REALLY HA WAS A GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE WITH THAT NEW MANAGER ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF THIS PROGRAM AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE, UH, BEEN ARE LOOKING ALSO TO DO IS START TO ENGAGE OTHER ADDISON BASED TENANTS BESIDES THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS, TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR INITIATIVE.

AND THEN GOING EVEN FURTHER, HAVING CONVERSATIONS THROUGH PRIMARILY THE FIXED BASED OPERATORS, THE FBOS, UH, WHICH IS WHERE WE HAVE MOST OF THE TRANSIENT OR NON ADDISON BASED TRAFFIC LOCATED, SO THAT WE CAN LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR INITIATIVE.

UH, THINK DOING THINGS LIKE, UH, PRINTING OUT POSTCARDS TO PUT IN RENTAL CARS AT THOSE FACILITIES SO THAT THE INDIVIDUALS THAT RENT THE CARS THROUGH THE FBOS ARE MADE AWARE ABOUT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR INITIATIVE.

UM, THOSE TYPE OF CONVERSATIONS ARE THE ONES THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH ALL OF OUR, UH, TENANTS TO MAKE THIS EVEN MORE SUCCESSFUL.

SO, UH, BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR MORE MEASURES THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR AND IN THE FUTURE BEYOND THAT AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, UM, IS WAY PAST NOW THE MIDPOINT IN TERMS OF, UM, WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AS THINGS STAND, WE HAVE COMPLETED FOUR CHAPTERS IN TERMS OF OUR AIRPORT, UH, MASTER PLAN.

UH, ADDITIONAL CHAPTERS THAT ARE BEING WORKED ON RIGHT NOW INCLUDE, UH, THE DRAFTING OF A REVISED AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT GETS DELIVERED TO THE FA AS PART OF THIS.

UM, IN ADDITION TO, UM, UH, WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS AN, A NOISE ANALYSIS, A NOISE ANALYSIS WILL BE COMPLETED BY WILPERT, WHO'S THE FIRM THAT'S COMPLETING THIS.

UM, AND THAT WILL BE PART OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN AS WELL.

SO THERE ARE A FEW ELEMENTS THAT ARE STILL BEING WORKED ON.

UH, WE PLAN TO HAVE A FUTURE STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING, EXECUTIVE MEETING, AND, UH, A COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, HERE IN THE, UH, EARLY, UH, I WOULD SAY LATE SPRING, EARLY SUMMER, UH, TO, UH, UPDATE EVERYONE AS TO WHERE WE STAND WITH THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN.

AND THEN WE START TO REALLY GET IN THE, TO THE FINAL STAGES, UH, WHERE WE WILL BRING THE FINAL, UH, DRAFT, IF YOU WILL, TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, UH, BEFORE IT GETS SENT TO TDOT AND THE FAA FOR THEIR APPROVAL.

UH, SO AS I, AS I MENTIONED, UH, PREVIOUSLY, WE ARE TRACKING FOR THIS, UH, TO BE DONE WITHIN THE CURRENT CALENDAR YEAR, UM, IF NOT SOONER, UH, THAN WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY ANTICIPATED.

AND THAT IS WHERE WE STAND WITH THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN.

AND THEN MOVING ON TO CURRENT PROJECTS THAT THE AIRPORT IS SPONSORING.

UM, ON THE MAP YOU'LL SEE FOUR UH, LETTERS ON THERE, UH, FOR THE LOCATIONS WHERE THESE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO TAKE PLACE.

AND THOSE FOUR PROJECTS, WHICH AGAIN, WERE SHARED WITH YOU AS PART OF THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET PROCESS, ARE TAXING UNIFORM AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT.

SO THAT WILL INCLUDE THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, UH, RELATED TO, UH, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO DO ALONG TAXIWAY UNIFORM.

TAXIWAY UNIFORM IS ALSO WHERE SKY HARBOR PHASE TWO, UH, PROJECT IS HAPPENING.

AND THEN AS WE DISCUSS, WE WILL BE, UH, BE, WE WILL HAVE THE DESIGN, UH, PROCESS BEGIN FOR TAXIWAY BRAVO EXTENSION.

THIS EXTENSION, UH, WILL LEAD TAXIWAY BRAVO TO THE FAR NORTH END OF OUR RUNWAY.

SO ONCE PHASE TWO CONSTRUCTION IS DONE, WE WILL HAVE A FULL LENGTH TAXIWAY BRAVO ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT FULL LENGTH, UM, FROM ONE END OF THE RUNWAY TO THE OTHER END OF THE RUNWAY.

WE ALSO PLAN TO DO, OR ARE STILL, UH, PLANNING TO DO AIRPORT FUEL STORAGE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE ENCLOSING OF SOME,

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UH, ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT, UH, RELATED TO THE FUEL FARM.

AND THEN THE RECONSTRUCTION OF, UH, AIRPORT STREETS, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS EDDIE RICKENBACKER, WHICH IS JUST WEST OF THE CURRENT POLICE STATION, UM, LEADING TO SOME, UH, HANGERS THAT WE HAVE IN THAT AREA, ALSO KNOWN AS TAXI LANE, SIERRA AREA.

UM, SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO, UH, WORK WITH TXDOT, UM, AS WELL FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE, UM, DEFINITELY THESE PROJECTS, UM, ARE ELIGIBLE, UH, FOR, UH, POTENTIAL FEDERAL FUNDING IN THE FORM OF GRANTS, UH, THAT WE WOULD BE, UH, REQUESTING THROUGH TDOT FROM FAA.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU, JAMIE.

GOOD PRESENTATION.

AND I THINK WE HAVE, UM, MARLON FIRST THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, NICE REPORT.

JAMIE, UM, ON THIS, UH, DALLAS LOVE FIELD, UH, POSSIBLY REBUILDING THEIR CUSTOMS. DO WE KNOW, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY INSIGHT IF THEY'LL HAVE SOME TEMPORARY CUSTOMS OR WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE? YEAH, AT THIS POINT, UM, WE DO NOT KNOW.

WE DO NOT KNOW, UM, THEY MAY PHASE THAT PROJECT IN A WAY WHERE THEIR CUSTOMS, UH, FOR GENERAL AVIATION CONTINUES TO OPERATE.

BUT, UM, I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

UM, AND THEN CAN YOU, CAN YOU REMIND OR HELP ME WITH, UH, TAXIWAY BRAVO PHASE THREE? YES.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ESTIMATE ON WHEN THAT, WHEN WE MIGHT SEE THAT? YES.

SO RIGHT NOW, AS THINGS ARE TRACKING, DESIGNED FOR TAX WAY BRAVO PHASE TWO, UH, IS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 26 CONSTRUCTION FOR TAX WAY BRAVO PHASE TWO WOULD BE IN FISCAL YEAR 27, UM, TAX WAY BRAVO PHASE THREE DESIGN WOULD BE IN FISCAL YEAR 28 AND CON AND TAX WEIGHT, BRAVO PHASE THREE IS THE RECONSTRUCTION OF TAX BRAVO THAT EXISTED PRIOR TO PHASE ONE, SO IT WOULD BE THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF TAX WEIGHT.

BRAVO.

AND SO, SO WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, AND THAT I'M JUST GONNA CALL IT PHASE THREE AREA, DOES, DOES THAT TAXIWAY SUPPORT THE SIZE JETS THAT RAZA IS BRINGING? UM, IT, IT, LET ME SAY, LET ME SEE HOW I CAN SAY THIS CORRECTLY.

YES, IT DOES.

YES IT DOES.

UM, AND THAT IS BECAUSE AS PART OF TAX RATE, BRAVO PHASE ONE, WE ACTUALLY RECONSTRUCTED THE LINK TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE RUNWAY OFF OF CURRENT TAXIWAY BRAVO THAT WILL BE LEADING.

SO WE DID THAT AS PART OF PHASE ONE.

THEY WOULD JUST CUT ALONG THE SOUTH, CORRECT? THEY, THEY EMASS CORRECT, CORRECT.

BY THE EMASS.

WE CREATED A NEW ENTRANCE ONTO THE RUNWAY THAT WILL SUPPORT, BUT, UM, IT, IT WILL BE TIGHT.

IT WILL BE TIGHT, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE PHASE THREE TO BEGIN WITH.

UNDER THE PHASE THREE PROJECT, WE ACTUALLY ARE RELOCATING THE CURRENT X-RAY BRAVO TO THE EAST TO ALLOW FOR MORE WING TIP CLEARANCE TO THE WEST, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR DESIGN GROUP THREE AIRCRAFT, LIKE ONE OF THE AIRCRAFT THAT RAZA OPERATES TO BE ABLE TO BETTER OPERATE IN THAT AREA.

YOU'RE WELCOME, CHRIS.

THANK YOU JAMIE, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, SO, UH, THE SKY HARBOR, LIKE PHASE ONE, THAT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND FEET, SIX HANGERS, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A PHASE TWO BEHIND IT.

WHAT KIND OF DEMAND ARE WE SEEING? ARE THOSE THINGS LEASING UP VERY HIGH DEMAND? YES.

UM, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY ARE PRETTY BUSY AT SKY HARBOR.

UM, ONE THING THAT SKY HARBOR ALWAYS NOTATES IS THAT THEIR AIRCRAFT AREN'T ALWAYS THERE AT THE SAME TIME.

SO THEY'RE ABLE TO STILL ACCOMMODATE SOME ADDITIONAL AIRCRAFT, BUT IT'S, UH, GETTING PRETTY FULL.

I WAS HOPING YOU'D SAY THAT.

AND, AND, AND THEY ARE RECEIVING ALREADY INQUIRIES ABOUT PHASE TWO CAPACITY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR.

AND THEN ON SLIDE 10, THIS IS REALLY JUST A QUESTION FOR MY BENEFIT, SO I UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE ABOUT HOW THE AIRPORT CONNECTS TO THE TOWN.

TRY, WE, WE ALSO GET ADVIL ALARM ON THAT, WHICH HITS THE GENERAL FUND.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT SOURCES OF REVENUE AND YOU'VE GOT RENT RENTAL INCOME, RIGHT? SO THAT RENTAL INCOME HITS YOU, HITS THE AIRPORT FUND AND STAYS IN THE AIRPORT FUND.

BUT EVERYTHING WE'RE BUILDING THAT'S NEW.

WE'RE ALSO

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IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT, CORRECT.

SO THESE, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE EXACT TITLE OF THIS IS OPERATING REVENUE.

SO THIS IS PART OF THE REVENUE THAT STAYS AT THE AIRPORT THAT WE UTILIZE FOR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, AS AN EXAMPLE.

SO THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE OF REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED AT THE AIRPORT THAT STAYS AT THE AIRPORT, AND THAT'S REALLY BASED ON SOME FEDERAL GUIDELINES.

UM, AND THAT IS REAL ESTATE FUEL, FLOWAGE FEES, AND THEN PARTICULARLY THE CUSTOMS FEES.

BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THERE ARE THREE, UM, REVENUE, UH, SOURCES THAT DO NOT STAY AT THE AIRPORT.

THERE ARE MORE THAN THREE, BUT THE BIGGEST THREE ARE NUMBER ONE SALES TAX.

AND AS AN EXAMPLE, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A TENANT LAST WEEK WHO INDICATED THAT THEY HAD, THEY'RE A MAINTENANCE, REPAIR AND OVERHAUL FACILITY.

UM, AND THEY HAD DONE WORK FOR A CLIENT WHERE THEY REQUIRED THE PURCHASE OF $1.6 MILLION WORTH OF JUST PARTS THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE LABOR THAT THEY DID.

JUST THE $1.6 MILLION IN PARTS TOTALED $80,000 IN SALES TAX.

THAT'S SALES TAX THAT WENT TO THE GENERAL FUND THAT DID NOT STAY AT THE AIRPORT.

UH, THE OTHER TWO SOURCES ARE EXACTLY WHAT YOU MENTIONED, WHICH IS AD VALOREM TAX OR PROPERTY TAX ON PRIVATE FACILITIES THAT ARE BUILT AT THE AIRPORT.

AND THE OTHER ONE IS BPP OR THE TAX THAT IS ON THE AIRCRAFT ITSELF THAT ARE BASED HERE, UM, AT ADDISON OR AT ADDISON, LET'S JUST SAY AT THE ADDISON AIRPORT.

THOSE THAT ARE PROVIDED, UH, AIRCRAFT THAT ARE PROVIDED TO THE TAX, UM, ENTITY THROUGH OUR BBP.

AND IN ALL OF THOSE THREE CASES, THAT IS REVENUE THAT GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND.

IT DOES NOT STAY AT THE END.

QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU ON REVENUE GENERATION.

YOU MENTIONED IT WAS 1.1% UP.

IF YOU COULD SHED SOME LIGHT FROM YOUR NEWNESS AND PERSPECTIVE OF THIS, WHAT'S THE FASTEST WAY TO DRIVE THAT NUMBER FASTER OR HIGHER? IS IT STRICTLY GETTING THE NEWER HANGERS OPEN AND JETS PARKED? YES.

AND THEN BUYING JET FUEL? CORRECT.

AND THEN ON THE FUEL, YOU MENTIONED THE AVGAS WAS DOWN, BUT THE JET FUEL WAS UP.

SIMPLE MATH, RIGHT? JET FUEL'S MORE EXPENSIVE.

ACTUALLY, JET FUEL IS LESS EXPENSIVE, BUT IT'S THE ONE THAT IS PUMPED THE MOST, RIGHT? SO VOLUME WISE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE VOLUME TWO POINT, ALMOST 2.4 MILLION GALLONS OF FUEL PUMPED, THAT'S A LOT OF FUEL.

AND SO, UM, THAT, THAT IS THE PRIMARY DRIVER AS TO WHY THERE'S MORE REVENUE BEING, UH, GENERATED.

IN FACT, UH, LAST FISCAL YEAR WE GENERATED A OVER 8 MILLION GALLONS TOTAL.

WE'LL SEE WHAT THE EFFECT IS RIGHT NOW OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

WE'VE BEEN BUSY UP TO THIS POINT.

UH, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRACKING WITH THE FIRST QUARTER BEING A 2.5 MILLION GALLONS.

JUST THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.

WE'RE TRACKING PRETTY WELL.

THAT'S GREAT.

SO BASED, BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH, WITH, UH, RASA AND, AND THE LIKES, MORE JETS EQUALS MORE REVENUE VERSUS MORE PROP, MORE MORE OPERATIONS GENERATES TYPICALLY MORE REVENUE.

SO, AND OUR OPERATION IS ONE LANDING OF ONE TAKEOFF NOW JET OPERATIONS BECAUSE THEY CONSUME MORE FUEL, THEN THERE IS A HIGHER, UH, UH, RATIO OF HOW MUCH REVENUE GENERATION IS BEING DONE BY A JET VERSUS A SMALL GENERAL AIRCRAFT, SMALL GENERAL AVIATION AIRCRAFT.

TENANTS, UH, HAVE FOUND LESS EXPENSIVE FUEL AT OTHER AIRPORTS FOR AVGAS PARTICULARLY.

SO THEN THAT, THAT LEADS TO THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU, WHICH IS THE, THE, THE EXTENSION OF THE BRAVO.

AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY, THAT EXTENSION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING, THAT'S GOING TO GIVE MORE CAPACITY? AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY? IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY ADD MORE CAPACITY.

IT WOULD ADD MORE OPERATIONAL ENHANCEMENTS AND SAFETY PRIMARILY.

BUT WHAT IT DOES DO IS WE SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT, UM, PUTTING OUT AN RFQ EVENTUALLY WHEN THE MASTER PLAN IS DONE FOR FIVE ACRES ON THE WEST SIDE, THAT TAXIWAY, UH, BRAVO PROJECT MAKES IT WAY EASIER AND, UM, SAFER AND, UM, EFFICIENT FOR JETS PARTICULARLY TO USE THE WEST SIDE OF THE AIRFIELD.

THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THE, UH, AVGAS BEING DOWN 7.8% ON? UM, I THINK IN PART SOME OF, AND, AND THIS IS BASED ON SOME FEEDBACK THAT I'VE RECEIVED FROM TENANTS, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, THAT IN SOME CASES,

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SO THAT EXPLAINS THE 12 AIRPLANE LINE AT MY AIRPORT.

ON SLIDE 20, I DON'T THINK I REMEMBER GIVING YOU PERMISSION TO PUT MY JET ON, UH, ON THE PRESENTATION.

, I APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING IT OUT THERE.

SIX.

, UH, THE CUSTOMS BUILDING.

WHAT IS THE AVERAGE TIME TO CLEAR CUSTOMS AT OUR FACILITY? UM, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVEN'T REALLY, WE HAVEN'T TIMED IT, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT INFORMATION EFFICIENT THOUGH, BUT IT'S MINUTES.

MINUTES, YEAH.

AND THAT, FROM THE FEEDBACK I GET FROM OPERATORS, OUR FACILITY AS YOU STATED IN YOUR PRESENTATION, IS A, IT IS, IS THE MODEL MODEL FOR PEOPLE TO USE.

SO I, I APPLAUD YOU AND OUR CUSTOMS PEOPLE ON THAT.

UM, THE APRON IN FRONT OF THE CUSTOMS BUILDING, WHO DOES THE, THE RAMP BELONG TO ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CUSTOMS BUILDING THERE? THE LITTLE CUTBACK INSIDE, IT BELONGS TO MILLIONAIRE FBO.

SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S SEPARATE AND APART FROM CUSTOMS. YES, IT IS.

AND IT'S ONE OF THE PROJECTS ACTUALLY THAT WAS LISTED EARLIER, RIGHT? YES.

I WAS OVER THERE THE OTHER DAY AND THERE'S BEEN A JET SITTING THERE WITHOUT ENGINES ON IT.

IS IS THAT AN ACCEPTED PRACTICE THAT WE JUST, WE LET AIRCRAFT SIT THERE THAT, THAT ARE NOT FLIGHT WORTHY AND, AND DO THAT? YES.

IN THAT CASE, ACTUALLY THAT AIRCRAFT HAS BEEN THERE A WHILE AND I ACTUALLY HAVE SEEN SOME ACTIVITY RELATED TO THAT WORK.

THAT'S GOOD.

A MECHANIC.

UH, THE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT AIRCRAFT NEEDED SOME ENGINE WORK.

THE ENGINES WERE REMOVED FROM THAT AIRCRAFT, AND IT TAKES A WHILE TO SEND THAT ENGINE OFF TO GET REPAIRED.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT PARTICULARS OF WHAT IT NEEDED, UH, BUT I KNOW THAT IT TAKES A WHILE.

BUT I HAVE SEEN SOME ACTIVITY, UM, AT THAT AIRCRAFT IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS THAT, THAT'S ENCOURAGING.

'CAUSE I, I RARELY, IF EVER HAVE SEEN ANYBODY AROUND THERE AND I'M OVER THERE QUITE A BIT.

AND, AND IN MILLIONAIRE'S CASE, THEY ARE ONE OF THE FBOS THAT WOULD LOVE, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, TO HAVE MORE SPACE FOR RAMP SPACE.

SO THAT RAMP SPACE TO THEM IS VALUABLE.

PERFECT.

AND I WILL ASK MY RECURRING QUESTION TO YOU.

ANY MORE THOUGHT OR PLANNING ON ANY KIND OF TRANSIENT PARKING FOR THOSE OF US THAT WANT TO COME IN AND ENJOY OUR RESTAURANTS, ENJOY OUR FESTIVALS, BUT DON'T WANT A HANGER HERE.

YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE AN OVERNIGHT, IT MIGHT BE FOR ONLY HOURS, BUT IS THERE ANY PROGRESS IN, IN FINDING US A TRANSIENT PARKING PLACE? FUNNY I SHOULD ASK THAT BECAUSE, UM, LAST WEEK I ATTENDED A, UH, TECH STOP, THE, UH, TEXAS AVIATION CONFERENCE, THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE, WHICH WAS HELD HERE IN FRISCO.

AND AMONG, UH, ONE OF THE SESSIONS WE HAD WAS AN AIRPORT MANAGER SESSION.

AND ACTUALLY, UH, UH, MY, MY, UH, SUPERVISING DEPUTY CITY MANAGER WAS IN ATTENDANCE WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION PERTAINING TO POTENTIAL FUNDING THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE THROUGH FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WOULD ALLOW THE BUILDING OF SPECIFIC RAMP EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE USE OF FREE PARKING FOR IN PARTICULAR GENERAL AVIATION AIRCRAFT IN PARTICULAR, A LOT OF TIMES FOR SMALLER GA A AIRCRAFT.

AT THAT MEETING, NO ONE WAS AWARE ABOUT ANY MORE FEDERAL GUIDANCE RELATED TO THAT FUNDING.

BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT MANY TIMES, AND I'LL KEEP, THAT WAS PART OF A 2024 REAUTHORIZATION BILL FOR THE FA FRONT.

PERFECT.

UH, YOU, YOU ON, ON THIS GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICY, UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL DIFFERENT INITIATIVES, PUTTING THINGS IN RENT CARS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

SEEMS TO ME LIKE SOMETHING THROUGH CLEARANCE DELIVERY, UH, UH, THROUGH THE TOWER TO, TO REMIND PEOPLE WOULD BE THE MOST EFFICIENT.

AND MOST, THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS A REMINDER THAT YOUR CLEARANCE DELIVERY WILL NOT LET YOU TURN LEFT UNTIL YOU REACH 1200 FEET HEADING TO 3 5 0.

SO, UM, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.

UH, WE'VE HAD THAT TYPE OF CONVERSATION, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UM, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PROVIDE NOISE RELATED GUIDANCE ON ANY OFFICIAL ATUS OR NOTIFICATIONS, REMARKS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

NO KIDDING.

I THOUGHT I HAD, HAD BEEN GIVEN, UH, UH, NOISE ABATEMENT INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE AT AIRPORT.

SO, INTERESTING.

DO WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE VIOLATED THAT SPACE? WE SUBSCRIBE TO A PROGRAM CALLED 1200 ARROW, WHICH PROVIDES US THROUGH THE USE OF, UM, AND I FORGET RIGHT NOW, THE TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY, THAT WE USE, UH, WE ARE ABLE TO TRACK THOSE AIRCRAFT UTILIZING 1200, UH, ARROW AND SO ON A, ON ON MONDAY MORNINGS, WE DOWNLOAD THAT INFORMATION OF THE PERFORMANCE OVER THE WEEKEND, AND THEN RIGHT AWAY WE MAKE CONTACT WITH RIGHT NOW THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS, BUT WE PLAN TO EXTEND OR EXPAND THAT PROGRAM, IF YOU WILL.

BUT I, THAT JUST SEEMS TO BE THE BIGGEST ON THE, ON THE, THE GOOD NEIGHBOR INITIATIVES PENETRATION MM-HMM .

THROUGH AND, AND YOU'RE CONTACTING THESE PEOPLE WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY VIOLATE THAT, HOW ARE WE GETTING THAT DATA? HOW, HOW

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SO WE'RE NOT U UTILIZING A DSB INFORMATION ON THAT THAT SYSTEM USES A DSB.

UM, IT IT, BUT THAT WON'T GIVE US DECIMAL LEVELS OR ANY, ANY OF THAT.

THEY, THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT.

IT GIVES US, UH, IT GIVES US PATH OF, UH, FLIGHT PATH.

IT GIVES US ALTITUDE AND IT GIVES US SPEED, BUT IT DOES NOT GIVE US DECIBEL LEVEL.

AND AS LONG AS WE'RE USING A DSB FOR THOSE TYPE THINGS, THAT'S GOOD.

AS LONG AS WE DON'T START CHARGING PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR A DSB AND YOU KNOW HOW PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE AT THE AIRPORT.

YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT ADDITION TO NOT ONLY THE AIRPORT HERE, BUT OUR TOWN AND OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, RANDY.

AND, AND YOU ASKED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WAS INTERESTED IN ALSO, I HAD ONE OTHER FOLLOW UP ON THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM.

UH, YES, SIR.

IS IT SEEMED LIKE I'VE SEEN AT SOME TIME IN THE PAST AT AN AIRPORT WHEN YOU'RE TAXIING YOU'RE GETTING READY TO TAKE OFF THAT THERE'S SOME SIGNAGE THERE.

DO WE HAVE THAT? WE DO, WE DO HAVE SIGNAGE.

WE HAVE SIGNAGE RIGHT NOW.

AND WHAT DOES IT SAY? BECAUSE I, THE, THE SIGNAGE SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT THERE ARE NOISE ABATEMENT PROCEDURES, UH, THAT WE HAVE AT THIS AIRPORT MM-HMM .

AND TO FOLLOW THE NBAA NOISE GUIDELINES.

BUT THAT'S NOT SPECIFIC IF I'M TAXING DOWN THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE.

YES, IT IS NOT SPECIFIC.

AND ACTUALLY WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TOWER ABOUT SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS THAT WOULD HELP US, WHAT THE AVOIDANCE OF THE NOISE SENSITIVE AREA, BUT THEY INDICATE THAT THEY ARE UNABLE TO PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF INSTRUCTION, UH, TO OUR DEPARTING AIRCRAFT.

CAN WE HAVE MORE SPECIFIC SIGNAGE? I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE SPECIFIC SIGNAGE.

I WOULD HOWEVER, UM, CAUTION AGAINST PROVIDING SPECIFIC, UM, HEADING INSTRUCTIONS AT A TOWERED AIRPORT LIKE OURS WHERE YEAH, I GET THAT THE TOWER ALWAYS HAS THE AUTHORITY OVER THE SKY.

WELL, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I KNOW, AND A LOT OF TIMES THE CLEARANCES, YOU KNOW, TURN LEFT AFTER DEPARTURE TO, I GUESS AFTER DEPARTURES KIND OF A SUBJECTIVE.

AND THAT'S SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED BECAUSE, UM, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH VERY EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TOWER AND THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS ABOUT THEIR OPERATIONS.

AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE'VE GOTTEN THAT IT'S A LEFT TURNING TO 0, 5 0, UM, IS WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING.

BUT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS, UH, TO THOSE.

IT DEPENDS ON, AS WE KNOW, WE'RE, WE ARE REALLY LIVING IN A BUBBLE HERE IN ADDISON AIRPORT, BEING THAT WE'RE WITHIN THE METROPLEX AND DALLAS LOVE AND DFW, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

SO, UM, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS.

AND I'VE GOT, IT'S NOT ALWAYS LEFT TO 0, 5, 0.

AND I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION THEN I'LL GO TO DARREN.

UM, SO SPEAKING OF CUSTOMS, ARE THE, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION WITH WORLD CUP COMING IN AS TO HOW'S, HOW THAT'S GONNA AFFECT THEIR TRAFFIC AND ITS CAPACITY? AND ARE THEY, ARE THEY PREPARED? SO RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE AIRPORTS REGIONALLY HAVE BEEN RECEIVING HAS BEEN PRIMARILY THROUGH THE NORTH, UH, NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.

AND THEY'VE PROVIDED US WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION.

AT THIS POINT, IT'S BEEN REALLY, NO AIRPORT HAS REALLY GOTTEN A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE AS TO HOW MUCH TRAFFIC WE REALLY SHOULD EXPECT.

HAVING SAID THAT, WE ARE ALL PREPARING FOR A LOT OF TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC TO THE LEVEL OF AIRPORTS THAT HAVE HAD, FOR EXAMPLE, F FORMULA ONE RACES THERE, OR SUPER BOWLS, WHICH WE'VE HAD THE EXPERIENCE HERE LOCALLY WITH HAVING.

THAT'S TO THE LEVEL OF PREPARATION THAT WE HAVE.

UH, WE'VE ALSO HAD TRAINING PREPARATION, FOR EXAMPLE, WE INTERNALLY AT THE AIRPORT HAVE BEEN DOING TRAINING RELATED TO HUMAN TRAFFICKING AS AN EXAMPLE, BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THAT THAT COMES WITH SOME OF THESE EVENTS.

MEET WITH THE FBOS TO FINALIZE A PLAN, THINGS RELATED TO, ARE THEY PLANNING TO CHARGE FEES, UH, FOR THOSE, ARE THEY GONNA HAVE RESERVATIONS? ARE THEY GONNA BE GETTING RESERVATIONS OR, UM, KEEPING RESERVATIONS? ARE THEY GONNA HAVE DROP AND GO PROCESSES WHERE SOMEONE JUST GETS DROPPED OFF AND THEN THE AIRCRAFT RELOCATES SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND THEN CONFIRM WITH THEM THE LOCATIONS OF PARKING SPACES BEYOND THEIR RAMPS THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO USE.

AND WE TEND TO BE THE FRONTLINE PERSONNEL, IF YOU WILL, FOR SOME ARRIVING, UH, PASSENGERS ON BOARD OF THESE BOARD, THESE AIRCRAFT.

SO THE PREPARATION, UH, WILL CONTINUE.

IN FACT, TOMORROW I HAVE AN INTERNAL MEETING WITH MY TEAM TO, UH, FINALIZE SOME PLANS RELATED TO WORLD CUP, UM, AREAS THAT WE WILL POTENTIALLY MAKE AVAILABLE FOR EXTRA PARKING FOR THE FBOS TO USE.

UM, AND THEN WE WILL

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THANK YOU FOR THAT.

DARREN.

UH, ON THE FUEL FLOWAGE FEES, CAN YOU GO TO THAT SLIDE? YES.

SO WE SEE THAT, UH, JET A IS, UH, 20 TO ONE LITTLE LESS THAN 2017 TO ONE OF THE AGAS.

AND HOW, SO HOW ARE THE FEES, UH, STRUCTURED ON THE FUELED? VERY GOOD QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

VERY GOOD QUESTION.

SO OUR FEW, UH, FLOWAGE FEES ARE, UM, 14 CENTS FOR EVERY GALLON PUMPED AT THE FBOS 17 CENTS, UH, PER GALLON, PUMPED AT, UM, LOCATION, UM, AT ONE LOCATION IN PARTICULAR, WHICH IS SKY HARBOR.

UM, AND THEN 22 CENTS BY ANYONE ELSE THAT'S PUMPED, WHICH IS VERY MINOR COMPARED TO THE FBOS.

THAT'S THE BREAKDOWN OF THE LANDING, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE FUEL FLOWAGE FEES.

SO IT'S THE SAME FOR JED A AS AGAS? IT IS, THERE'S NO, UH, DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO TYPE OF AIR, UM, FUEL TYPE.

SO, SO THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN THE REVENUE THAT DOES MAKE SENSE.

IT'S, IT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE GALLONS.

UM, IS THE AIRPORT SELF SUPPORTING ON THE LEASE AND THE FUEL REVENUE? YES.

UM, ON THE REVENUE THAT WE GENERATE, WHICH INCLUDES THE, UM, THE LEASES, THE, THE REAL ESTATE, THE FUEL FLOWAGE, AND THEN THE FEES THAT WE GET FROM CUSTOMS AND SOME OTHER FEES, WE ARE OVER.

WE, WE ARE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE EXPENSES THAT WE GENERATE EVERY YEAR.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU, YOU DO PAY SOME, UH, PARTIAL, UH, FEES FOR OTHER CITY SERVICES THAT YOU USE, UH, EMPLOYEES AND SUCH.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THIS WHOLE PRESENTATION, THERE'S NO EXPENSES, UM, YOU KNOW, EXPENSES BEING UP OR, UH, BEING MAINTAINED OR ADDITIONAL, I DON'T KNOW.

I, I KNOW THIS IS MOSTLY REVENUE BASED AND ACCOMPLISHMENT BASED AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND BY THE WAY, GREAT JOB AT THE AIRPORT.

I THINK YOU, YOU, THE WHOLE TEAM'S DOING A FANTASTIC JOB.

VERY PROUD OF THE AIRPORT.

UM, JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK MORE AS A COUNCIL, UH, AND, AND WITH DAVID AS FAR AS EXPENSE INFORMATION ON THIS REPORT, IF IT MAKES SENSE.

HEY DARREN, I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT AS WELL, WHERE WE GO THROUGH THE EXPENSES AND REVENUES.

UM, SO IF IT'S WORTHWHILE, WE CAN DUPLICATE THOSE THERE, THOSE HERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO.

BUT WE DO HAVE THOSE ON THOSE REPORTS AS WELL.

OKAY, THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'LL COVER IT.

THAT'S, I LIKE THAT COMPREHENSIVE TOGETHER.

IT'S JUST HAVING ALL THE REVENUES ON THERE AND NO EXPENSES.

IT'S KIND OF, IT'S A LITTLE IMBALANCE AND I CAN ACCEPT THAT, UM, ON THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM, UH, WOW, WELL DONE.

AND I'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS, AND I KNOW ALL COUNCIL HAS OVER THE, THESE YEARS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE KNOCKING ON DOORS, UM, ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, AIR, UH, AIRPLANE NOISE.

SO, UM, I'M REALLY, REALLY GLAD TO SEE, UH, THE WORK ON THAT.

SO WELL DONE ON THAT.

ALL THE INITIATIVES, ALL THE FOLLOW UPS, THE ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THAT THE, UM, THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS ARE, UM, HOLDING THEIR PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE AND DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

UH, I HEAR A LOT, MOST, MANY OF THE COMPLAINTS COMING, UH, NOT FROM FLIGHT SCHOOLS, FROM, UH, THE JETS THAT FLY OVER THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, FLY OVER NEIGHBORHOODS ON THEIR TURNOUTS ARE USUALLY FURTHER SOUTH.

UM, SO KEEP IT UP.

GOOD JOB.

UH, WORKING WITH TOWER, WORKING WITH FPOS TO GET TO, UM, THE PILOTS THAT ARE FLYING THE FLIGHT CREWS.

UH, CAN WE GET, UH, OH ON SLIDE 20, UM, WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET A RIDE ON ONE OF THOSE, THE G 700, IF THAT'S OKAY.

JUST WHENEVER YOU GET A CHANCE.

AND THEN CAN WE GET AN UPDATED PRESENTATION? UH, 'CAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE SLIDES THAT ARE DIFFERENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET, UM, JUST THE CURRENT ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED HERE TO US.

OKAY, THANK YOU DARREN.

UH, ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY ON THIS? ALRIGHT, JAMIE, THANK YOU.

REALLY GREAT WORK, YOU AND YOUR TEAM.

FINAL ITEM FOR TONIGHT IS, UH, ITEM FIVE, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS ON THE COUNCIL TO EXPRESS.

ALRIGHT,

[5. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.]

UH, THANKS.

CONGRATULATIONS.

CONDOLENCE

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INFORMATION, ET CETERA.

MARLON, I SEE YOUR LIGHT.

YEAH, MAYOR.

UM, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE WE MET, BUT UM, WE HAD A GREAT EASTER EXTRAVAGANZA AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY EGGS WE HAD, BUT MAYBE MORE THAN A THOUSAND.

AND THEY DISAPPEARED VERY, VERY QUICKLY WITH A LOT OF HAPPY CHILDREN AND PARENTS AND, AND SO, UH, NICE JOB, BUT BY OUR ADDISON PARKS AND RECREATION GROUP FOR PUTTING THAT ON.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS A TON OF FUN.

AND, AND IT'S NEAT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT OUR, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR, UH, MAJOR EVENTS, BUT I LIKE, I LIKE THINKING ABOUT OUR MAJOR CHILDREN EVENTS AND UM, THAT WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF THEM.

SO THANK YOU.

THAT'S A REALLY, THAT'S A REALLY FUN ONE.

DID YOU GET SOME EGGS? I GOT A COUPLE EGGS OFFERED TO ME, WHICH WAS PRETTY, PRETTY AWESOME FROM THE CHILDREN.

YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.

YES, YES.

BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO HOARD THOSE EGGS PRETTY WELL.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? I HEARD IT WAS EGG A MICROPHONE.

YOU HEARD WHAT I HEARD.

IT WAS 8,000 EGGS AND I THINK DAVID'S GOT 7,000 .

THAT'S A LOT OF, IT WAS A LOT OF EGGS NO MATTER WHAT.

UH, DARREN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO NO.