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ALRIGHT. 
          [1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present.]
GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. 
          IT IS TWO OH SIX AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING, THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON MARCH 24TH, 2026. 
          WE'RE GOING INTO OUR WORK SESSION. 
          UH, ITEM NUMBER. 
          WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT WITH SIX MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL IN ATTENDANCE IN THE, IN THE, UH, UH, CHAMBERS HERE. 
          AND THEN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER LISIO IS JOINING US ONLINE. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, DAN. 
          CAN YOU HEAR US OKAY? I CAN HEAR YOU PERFECTLY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND, UH, GOING TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA. 
          COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS. 
          CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW. 
          THE COUNCIL IS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON THE FUTURE AGENDA. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY CO UH, PUBLIC APPEARANCE CARDS. 
          IS THERE ANY, ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND 
          [3. Council Member Clarification Requests Regarding Consent Agenda Items. ]
MOVE INTO ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CLARIFICATION, REQUEST REGARDING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS NEEDED FROM COUNSEL ON CONSENT? MAYOR, I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION FOR CHIEF FREEZE IF HE IS AVAILABLE. 
          WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR CHIEF REZA, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS NEEDED FROM ANYBODY? OKAY. 
          HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, CHIEF, I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU IF I COULD, ON, UH, FOUR C SLEEPING IN CERTAIN PLACES. 
          AND MY QUESTION IS, IS, UH, DOES THAT INCLUDE, UH, PRIVATE, UH, LIKE BUSINESSES, COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES? IF THEY HAVE THE, UM, CONSENT FROM THE OWNER, THEN THEY CAN SLEEP ON THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY? YEAH, IT WOULD'VE TO, IF WE, THERE'S A SITUATION WHERE YOU SAW SOMEBODY SLEEPING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND WE RESPOND TO THAT, WE WOULD GO FIND A MANAGER, THE PROPERTY OWNER, MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD THE CONSENT TO THAT. 
          IF THEY DIDN'T, THEN THEY WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF IT. 
          AND WOULD THAT CONSENT NEED TO BE WRITTEN? UH, IT COULD BE WRITTEN, IT COULD BE ORALLY. 
          UM, SO IF WE WOULD GO FIND SOMEBODY AND SAY, HEY, THIS PERSON IS HERE. 
          ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT? IF THEY SAID YES. 
          OKAY. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE US TO REMOVE THEM? NO, THEY'RE FINE THEN. 
          THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE CONSENT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          NO OTHERS. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, THREE A COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. 
          UH, ANY TIME COUNCIL SENDS QUESTIONS TO STAFF REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS, THOSE, UH, QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED AND PUT INTO A SINGLE DOCUMENT AND SENT OUT TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          THAT SAME DOCUMENT IS UPLOADED TO THE WEBSITE AND IS AVAILABLE FOR ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. 
          IF YOU GO TO ADDISON TX.GOV AND FIND THE AGENDA FOR THIS, FOR THIS MEETING, THERE'LL BE A LINK WITHIN THAT AGENDA THAT YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE Q AND A DOCUMENT FROM THERE. 
          ALRIGHT, ITEM 
          [4. Closed Meeting. The Addison City Council will enter a Closed Meeting pursuant to Texas Government Code Sections 551-071 through 090 to discuss the following item(s):]
NUMBER FOUR, CLOSED MEETING, UH, FOUR A PURSUANT TO 5 5 1 0 5 5 1 0 7 6 AND 5 5 1 0 8 9 TO DELIBERATE THE DEPLOYMENT OR SPECIFIC OCCASIONS FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF SECURITY PERSONNEL, INFRASTRUCTURE OR SECURITY DEVICES. 
          AND THEN, UH, ITEMS, UH, FOUR B AND FOUR C. 
          WE'RE GOING TO, UH, FLIP THE ORDER OF THOSE. 
          SO I'LL, I'LL READ, I'LL READ ITEM FOUR B, BUT WE WILL DO THAT. 
          THIRD ONE, WE DO THE, UH, MEETING, UH, FOUR B IS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 5 51 0.071 CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE TOWN'S LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING THE GENERAL MOBILITY PROGRAM, GMP INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT PROPOSED BY DART AND MATTER RELATED TO THE DART ELECTION IN MAY. 
          AND THEN ITEM FOUR C PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.07, ONE, SECTION TWO AND 5 51 0.087 TO DISCUSS THE EVALUATION OF PROPOSALS RECEIVED IN RESPONSE TO THE TOWN'S REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, RFP NUMBER 22 6 DASH 104 FOR MOBILITY AND TRANSIT SERVICES, INCLUDING THE REVIEW OF THE PROPOSAL SUBMITTED AND NEGOTIATION OF A CONTRACT WITH THE ONE OR MORE VENDORS, ITEM FOUR D PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.08, SEVEN SECTIONS ONE AND TWO DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS TO DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE REGARDING COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT OR BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE CITY'S COUNCIL SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE, STAY, OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE TERRITORY OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON, AND WITH WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OR TO DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO SUCH A BUSINESS PROSPECT OR BUSINESS PRO PROSPECTS. 
          AND THIS IS, UH, PROJECT RED RIVER. 
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IT IS TWO 11 AND WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THIS TIME. 
          [5. Open Meeting. In accordance with Texas Government Code Chapter 551, the Addison City Council will reconvene in an Open Meeting to consider action, if any, on the matters discussed in the Closed Meeting.]
OKAY. 
          IT IS 5 54 AND WE ARE COMING INTO OPEN SESSION FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION. 
          THERE ARE SEVERAL ITEMS WE HAD FROM CLOSED SESSION. 
          THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION ITEMS AND OF OUR THOSE CLOSED ITEMS, UH, ITEM FOUR D, UH, WHICH WAS PROJECT RED RIVER, THAT IS, THIS IS BEING RESCHEDULED TO ANOTHER MEETING. 
          AND, UH, SO GOING INTO OUR, UH, OPEN MEETING FOR OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS, UH, JUST TO GIVE THE COUNCIL UPDATE HERE, UH, ITEM SIX A, SIX D AS IN SIX E ARE BEING RESCHEDULED FOR A LATER MEETING. 
          SO WE WILL BE DOING ITEMS, UH, SIX B AND SIX C FOR OUR WORK SESSION THIS EVENING. 
          [b.  Present and discuss a recap of the 2025 Rental and Lodging Registration Program.]
SO WITH THAT, WE'LL CALL ITEM SIX B. 
          AND WE DO STILL HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT WITH, UH, WITH ALL, EVERYBODY IN PLACE IS DAN. 
          AND DAN LUCIO IS JOINING US ON ZOOM. 
          MAYBE YOU CAN SAY HE'S NOT PRESENT RIGHT NOW, BUT HE IS NOT PRESENT AT THIS MOMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ITEM SIX B, PRESENT AND DISCUSS A RECAP OF THE 2025 RENTAL AND LODGING REGISTRATION PROGRAM. 
          HERE WE GO. 
          MAYOR COUNSEL, RAY MENEZ, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. 
          UH, SO THIS EVENING WE'RE HERE TO GIVE YOU A, A RECAP OF OUR FIRST YEAR UNDER THE, UH, RENTAL REGISTRATION AND LODGING PROGRAM. 
          UM, WE FINISHED THAT UP AT THE END OF, UH, THE CALENDAR YEAR, DECEMBER 31ST. 
          THE REGISTRATIONS FOR THAT TIMEFRAME EXPIRED AT THE END OF DECEMBER. 
          AND SINCE THEN WE'VE STARTED OUR SECOND ROUND OF REGISTRATIONS BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, UH, LEADING UP TO THE CUTOFF DATE, WHICH WAS MARCH 1ST, OR, UH, THE FIRST PART OF THIS MONTH. 
          AS BACKGROUND, UM, ON NOVEMBER THE 12TH, 24 COUNCIL ADOPTED THE ORDINANCE, WHICH CREATED THIS PROGRAM, THE PURPOSE BEING TO PROMOTE HEALTHY AND SAFE CONDITIONS FOR ALL RENTAL PROPERTIES, INCLUDING SINGLE FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY, HOTEL, AND MULTIPLE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE TOWN OF ADDISON. 
          THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THE PROGRAM, GIVEN THE FACT THAT A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES HAD NOT BEEN INSPECTED, UH, SINCE THEY HAD ORIGINALLY BEEN CONSTRUCTED OR SINCE THE TIME OF THE INITIAL ISSUANCE OF THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. 
          UH, THE KEY COMPONENTS, OF COURSE, WERE TO ESTABLISH DEFINITIONS THAT OUTLINED THE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS. 
          UH, WE ALSO WANTED TO ESTABLISH THE TOWN'S AUTHORITY TO CONDUCT THESE TYPES OF INSPECTIONS AND ISSUE NOTICES OF VIOLATION. 
          IN ADDITION, WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY AN ESTABLISHED MINIMUM ACCEPTABLE STANDARDS AND ESTABLISH, UH, OUR REGISTRATION FEES AND THE PROCESS FOR VIOLATIONS AND COLLECTING OF THOSE FEES. 
          REGISTRATION. 
          ALL PROPERTIES, UH, MUST BE REGISTERED, UH, WITHIN THE TOWN OF ADDISON. 
          THESE INCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY RENTALS SUCH AS TOWN HOMES, DUPLEXES AND CONDOMINIUMS, MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS AND HOTELS AND MOTELS. 
          PROPERTY OWNERS ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT REGISTRATION APPLICATIONS ANNUALLY AND PAY THE REQUIRED FEES. 
          AND ONCE THEY DO THAT, THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE, UH, INSPECTION PROCESS. 
          THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DENY, SUSPEND, OR REVOKE REGISTRATIONS BASED ON A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT CONDITIONS. 
          SO, AS I MENTIONED, UM, THIS, THIS FIRST YEAR OF THE PROGRAM STARTED ON JANUARY 1ST OF THE YEAR. 
          UH, THE DEADLINE TO REGISTER WAS MARCH 1ST. 
          ALL REGISTRATIONS WOULD EXPIRE ANNUALLY AT THE END OF DECEMBER. 
          ON DECEMBER 31ST. 
          INSPECTIONS WOULD BEGIN ONCE THE APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED AND ALL THE ASSOCIATED FEES ARE PAID. 
          UH, AND AS YOU RECALL, WE WERE HERE BACK IN OCTOBER WHERE WE DID A FEW MINOR AMENDMENTS TO THIS ORDINANCE, UH, WHICH ALSO INCLUDED THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPONENT THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ADDED TO HOTELS AND MOTELS. 
          UH, AS FAR AS PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORDINANCES, UH, ANY OF THESE, UM, PROPERTIES CAN BE FINED UP TO, UH, THE MAXIMUM OF $2,000 PER DAY FOR EACH FILE, EACH OFFENSE THAT CONTINUES, UH, TO EXIST. 
          SO LEMME JUST KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THE REGISTRATION AND INSPECTION PROCESS. 
          SO, NORMALLY THE REGISTRATION IS IN INITIATED AT THE TIME THAT THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED AND THE FEES ARE COLLECTED. 
          UH, ONCE WE HAVE THOSE FEES IN PLACE, WE WILL GENERALLY REACH OUT TO THE COMPLEX OR THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, GIVING THEM 14 DAYS NOTICE THAT WE INTEND TO GO TO THE PROPERTY AND INSPECT THE PROPERTY ONCE WE'VE DONE SO, UH, IF WE DETERMINE THAT THERE IS A VIOLATION, WE'LL ISSUE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION ON THE PROPERTY, UH, AND THEN SCHEDULE AN INSPECTION TO ENSURE THAT COMPLIANCE HAS OCCURRED. 
          IF COMPLIANCE HAS OCCURRED, THEN WE, UM, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD AND THEN, UH, COMPLETE THE REGISTRATION. 
          UH, IF THERE IS NON-COMPLIANCE, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL ISSUE A NOTICE AND POTENTIALLY A CITATION IF, UH, THEY DON'T COME INTO 
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COMPLIANCE. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO WORKED WITH A VARIETY OF, UH, OUR APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND, UH, HOTEL MOTELS IN, UH, DEVELOPING COMPLIANCE PLANS FOR SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES. 
          UH, AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, SOME OF THESE ENTITIES HAVE, UH, FOUND THAT, UM, THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL COST TO SOME OTHER, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'VE ASKED 'EM TO COMPLY WITH. 
          UH, AND IN ORDER FOR THEM TO DO THAT, THEY WOULD NEED SOME EXTENDED EXTENDED TIME IN ORDER FOR THEM TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          SO WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM ON DEVELOPING THESE COMPLIANCE PLANS. 
          OUR STAFF ARE CHECKING IN WITH THEM PERIODICALLY TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE PROCEEDING ON THE SET SCHEDULE SO THAT THEY CAN BRING THESE PROPERTIES INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          UH, I'M GONNA GO OVER A FEW KEY OUTCOMES ON SOME OF THESE. 
          UM, GO INDIVIDUALLY THROUGH THE TYPES OF UNITS, STARTING WITH SINGLE FAMILY. 
          SO WE DID, UH, GET A TOTAL OF 76 PROPERTIES THAT WERE REGISTERED AND INSPECTED. 
          MOST OF THE COMMON VIOLATIONS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES WERE SMOKE DETECTORS AND PROTECTED TREATMENT. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S USUALLY, UH, PRETTY COMMON. 
          SMOKE DETECTORS CAN EITHER BE THE FACT THAT THEY ARE MISSING A BATTERY OR IF THEY'RE HARDWIRED, MAYBE THEY'RE JUST NOT PROPERLY CONNECTED. 
          UH, AND THEN THE PROTECTIVE TREATMENT GENERALLY HAS TO DO WITH, UH, THE LACK OF PAINTING ON EXTERIOR SURFACES THAT CAN REDO, UH, RESULT IN, IN, UH, WOOD ROT OR MOLD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          AS FAR AS CITATIONS THAT WERE ISSUED, WE DID NOT ISSUE ANY ON ANY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. 
          UH, AND AS A RESULT, THERE WAS NONE THAT WERE DISMISSED HERE. 
          UH, OF THE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES THAT WE INSPECTED, THERE WAS 10 PROPERTIES THAT DID NOT PASS THE INITIAL INSPECTION AND REQUIRED A REINSPECTION. 
          ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE SINCE CORRECTED THE VIOLATIONS AND COME INTO COMPLIANCE AND HAVE PASSED THEIR INSPECTIONS. 
          UH, AGAIN, THE COMMON VIOLATIONS WERE, UH, MISSING OR INOPERABLE SMOKE DETECTORS, SOME MINOR ELECTRICAL VIOLATIONS, WHICH MAINLY CONSISTED OF INOPERABLE LIFE, SIX YEARS. 
          AS FAR AS MULTIFAMILY UNITS, UH, WE REGISTERED AND INSPECTED A TOTAL OF 24 OUT OF 24 COMPLEXES FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          UH, THE NUMBER OF UNITS INSPECTED, UH, AND THIS, AS YOU RECALL, THE, UH, THE ORDINANCE CALLS FOR, UH, 5% OF THE UNITS TO BE INSPECTED. 
          SO IN ALL OF THESE 24, WE INSPECTED A TOTAL OF 441 UNITS WITH AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 18 UNITS FOR PROPERTY. 
          UH, WE ALSO INSPECT 36 POOLS ON EACH OF THESE PROPERTIES AS WELL. 
          UH, THERE WAS A TOTAL OF FOUR CITATIONS THAT WERE ISSUED. 
          THOSE WERE MAINLY FOR EITHER, UH, A LATE REGISTRATION OR FOR, UM, LATE FEES THAT WERE PAID, AGAIN, WITH MULTI-FAMILY UNITS. 
          WE HAD A TOOL OF 277 VIOLATIONS. 
          91 OF THOSE WERE INTERIOR VIOLATIONS. 
          186 OF THOSE WERE EXTERIOR. 
          THE MOST COMMON TYPES OF VIOLATIONS, UH, CONSISTED OF ELECTRICAL HAZARDS, INTERIOR SURFACES, LANDSCAPING, HAND RAILS, PLUMBING. 
          UH, THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 12 PROPERTIES THAT NOT PASS THE INITIAL INSPECTION. 
          ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE, UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, UH, HAVE A COMPLIANCE PLAN THAT THEY'VE PUT INTO PLACE AND ARE WORKING WITH OUR STAFF TO BRING THESE PROPERTIES INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          UH, SOME OF THESE ARE RELATED TO ONGOING LANDSCAPING ISSUES. 
          UH, THESE ARE ALSO BEING MONITORED BY THE PARK STAFF AS WELL. 
          AND, UH, WE HAVE APPROVED PLANS IN PLACE. 
          AND THE, UH, AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE UNANTICIPATED COST OF SOME OF THESE REPAIRS, UH, THEY NEEDED TO DO THIS IN ORDER FOR, UH, THEM TO BE ABLE TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE PROPERTIES TO ESTABLISH REGIONAL COMPLIANCE PLAN, AND WE FOUND THAT COMING INTO COMPLIANCE WAS CHALLENGING, UM, MAINLY DUE TO BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS. 
          ONE ASSOCIATED WITH THE, THE COST OF THE REGISTRATION FEES. 
          UH, THIS WAS A NEW ORDINANCE THAT CAME INTO PLACE AND THOSE, UH, A LOT OF THESE, UH, PROPERTIES DID NOT HAVE THAT, UH, IN THEIR BUDGET INITIALLY. 
          UH, AND THEN ALSO, AGAIN, THE COST OF THE REPAIRS, UH, IN CEX PROPERTIES, UH, WAS, UM, PRETTY EXPENSIVE AND REQUIRED, UH, US TO WORK WITH THEM IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE COMPLIANCE. 
          AS FAR AS HOTEL MOTEL UNITS, UH, WE REGISTERED, UH, AND INSPECTED 22 OUT OF 22 PROPERTIES. 
          AGAIN, A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          UH, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ROOMS INSPECTED WAS, WAS ABOUT, UH, 180 9 WAS AN AVERAGE, UH, PER PROPERTY WITH ABOUT 18, UH, POOLS THAT WERE INSPECTED WERE 20 AND ONE CITATION WAS ISSUED. 
          THIS ONE WAS ALSO FOR, UH, FAILURE TO PAY THEIR, UH, FEES IN A TIMELY FASHION. 
          UM, THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 143 VIOLATIONS IN THESE HOTEL AND TWO UNITS, 56 OF THOSE WERE INTERIOR VIOLATIONS. 
          87 WERE EXTERIOR. 
          AGAIN, THE COMMON ONES WERE PROTECTIVE TREATMENT, ELECTRICAL HAZARD LANDSCAPING, UNMARKED FIRE LANES, AND ENCROACHMENTS. 
          UH, THERE WERE A TOTAL OF EIGHT PROPERTIES THAT DID NOT PASS INSPECTION. 
          THEY ALSO HAVE COMPLIANCE PLANS IN PLACE SIMILAR TO, UH, WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES. 
          WE'RE WORKING ON THEM, UH, WORKING WITH THEM 
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TO, UH, UH, ADDRESS, UH, ONGOING LANDSCAPING ISSUES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          AGAIN, SAME SITUATION. 
          UH, ACHIEVING COMPLIANCES A BIT CHALLENGING BECAUSE OF THE BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS AS WELL. 
          UH, AS FAR AS PROGRAM REVENUE, UH, INITIALLY WHEN THIS PROGRAM PUT TOGETHER, UH, WE WERE HOPING THAT, UH, FOR IT TO BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT WOULD, UM, HELP US IN TERMS OF COST RECOVERY. 
          THE PROJECTED AMOUNT OF THE COST RECOVERY FOR THE PROGRAM WAS 450,120. 
          UH, IN TOTAL WE COLLECTED 382,525, WHICH IS ABOUT 85% OF THE TOTAL COST RECOVERY THAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED. 
          A LOT OF THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT WERE REGISTERED. 
          I THINK AT THE TIME THAT THE PROGRAM WAS CREATED, UH, THAT PROJECTION FOR THE NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY, UM, MAY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT TOO HIGH. 
          UM, ADDISON'S A SMALL TOWN. 
          WE HAVE ABOUT 2,800 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. 
          UM, I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE PROBABLY, UM, UH, OWNER OCCUPIED. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE THE DIFFERENCE CAME IN. 
          SO, AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS, UH, FOR THIS SECOND YEAR OF IMPLEMENTATION, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS, UH, WE, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT. 
          UH, ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS, UH, THAT WE DECIDED TO DO THIS YEAR WAS, UH, WHEN WE GO ABOUT DOING OUR INSPECTIONS, INSTEAD OF, UH, DOING THE TAG TEAM APPROACH, WHICH WE HAD BEEN DOING, WHERE WE WOULD TAKE ALL OUR CODE OFFICERS TOGETHER AT ONE TIME TO CONDUCT THE INSPECTION, UH, WE DECIDED TO ASSIGN, UH, COMPLEXES TO INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS. 
          THAT WAY THEY HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY. 
          UH, IT HELPS 'EM IN CREATING, UH, CONTINUITY AND, UH, COMMUNICATING WITH THE PROPERTY MANAGERS SO THAT WAY THEY HAVE A DIRECT POINT OF CONTACT WHENEVER THEY HAVE AN ISSUE. 
          AND, UH, THE OTHER THING TOO IS THAT SOMETIMES, UH, IN USING THE TAG TEAM APPROACH, UH, WHAT WE WOULD FIND WAS THAT THERE WAS DIFFICULTY IN MOVING THE CASE FORWARD BECAUSE, UH, THEY'D HAVE TO COME IN, UH, BACK TO THE OFFICE AND INPUT THEIR DATA. 
          AND SOMETIMES IF EVERYONE HADN'T INPUT THEIR DATA AT THE SAME TIME OR THEY'RE STILL WAITING ON SOMEBODY, THAT WOULD KIND OF, UH, DELAY IN US BEING ABLE TO SEND OUT THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION. 
          SO, UH, WE HOPE THAT BY DOING THIS, UM, THAT'LL HELP, UH, SPEED THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT BETWEEN OUR STAFF AND, AND, UH, THE UNIT MANAGERS. 
          WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH IT TO CREATE NEW ENHANCEMENTS TO THE WORKFLOW. 
          THIS WILL ALLOW, ALLOW OUR INSPECTORS TO ISSUE NOTICES IN THE FIELD AT THE TIME OF THE INSPECTION. 
          UM, OTHER ENHANCEMENTS WILL ALLOW US TO CATEGORIZE THEIR INSPECTION VIOLATIONS SEPARATELY FROM OUR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE VIOLATIONS, AND WILL ALSO ALLOW US THE ABILITY TO EXTRACT SPECIFIC INFORMATION REGARDING RENEWAL. 
          UH, REGISTRATIONS STAFF IS CONTINUING TO WORK ON SYSTEM THAT HAS EVEN HAS SEEMS TO ASSIST US IN TRACKING THESE, UM, PERFORMANCE INDICATORS. 
          UH, WE'RE ALSO EXPLORING ADDING THE POSSIBILITY OF A SCORING SYSTEM TO THE PROGRAM, WHICH WILL RATE PROPERTIES BASED ON THE NUMBER AND SEVERITY OF VIOLATIONS. 
          UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING SOME RESEARCHING THAT REGARD, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE ORDINANCES OF SURROUNDING MUNICIPALITIES TO SEE WHAT EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND HOW WE CAN BEST USE THAT TYPE OF APPROACH. 
          UH, WE ALSO WANNA CONTINUE, UH, OUR EFFORTS, UH, TOWARDS, UH, REACHING OUT TO SOME OF THE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES THAT MAYBE WE DIDN'T CATCH CAPTURE THE FIRST TIME AROUND. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS BY ADDING UTILITY BILL INSERTS, UH, REGARDING THE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS, PERHAPS DIRECT MAILERS TO SUSPECTED PROPERTIES AND ENGAGING WITH UTILITY BILLING IS HELPING US TO IDENTIFY OWNERS, UH, VERSUS TENANTS WHEN REQUESTS FOR NEW SERVICE ARE MADE. 
          UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ADDING THE SAME TYPE OF PUBLIC, UH, SAFETY COMPONENT, UH, TO MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES AS WE DID WITH HOTEL MOTELS. 
          AND CHIEF RE IS GONNA BE, UH, TALKING ABOUT THAT THE TWO SHORTLY. 
          UM, BEFORE I MOVE ON TO ANY QUESTIONS, I WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE OMAR ARANDA, WHO'S OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES MANAGER. 
          OMAR AND HIS STAFF HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING THIS PROGRAM OFF THE GROUND. 
          UH, THEY PRETTY MUCH CREATED A FRAMEWORK FOR THIS PROGRAM BEFORE I EVEN ARRIVED HERE, UM, WHICH MADE MY JOB A LOT EASIER. 
          I JUST KIND OF STEPPED IN AND, UH, FOLLOWED THEIR LEAD. 
          SO, UH, THANK YOU OMAR, FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK. 
          THANK YOU TO YOUR STAFF AS WELL. 
          I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          GREAT. 
          UH, FIRST ONE, I SO WAS CHRIS. 
          WELL, THANK YOU RAY. 
          THANK YOU AMAR. 
          OMAR, I KNOW THIS IS, YOU KNOW, NOT EASY TO GET A NEW PROGRAM OFF THE GROUND AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB. 
          I I HAVE A QUESTION ON, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, HOTEL MOTEL UNITS, RIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE CITATION, BUT THERE'S 56 VIOLATIONS FOR INTERIOR 87 EXTERIOR, THAT'S A TOTAL OF 143, AND THEN EIGHT PROPERTIES HAVE NOT PASSED THE INSPECTION. 
          SO WHY WAS THERE ONLY ONE CITATION ISSUED? SO THE, AT THE TIME THAT WE ISSUED THAT PARTICULAR CITATION, IT WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD NOT COME, UH, COMPLIED WITH THE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS. 
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THEY HAD SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION, BUT THEY HAD NOT PAID THE FEES. 
          ALRIGHT, SO THE CITATION IS JUST FOR THE PAYING THE FEE? YEAH, IT WAS TIED TO THAT IN PARTICULAR. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WE ARE WORKING WITH 'EM AND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO, TO, UM, BE AS UNDERSTANDING AS POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE STUFF HAD NOT BEEN BUDGETED FOR BECAUSE THIS PROGRAM WAS NON-EXISTENT YEAH. 
          PRIOR TO THAT. 
          SO WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE THAT PUNITIVE. 
          UH, WE WANTED TO ESTABLISH A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM IN HOPES THAT ONCE THEY SEE THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM, THIS WILL HELP US AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROGRAM INTO THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, JUST SO I'M UNDERSTANDING, SO OF THOSE HOTELS, THERE'S EIGHT PROPERTIES THAT HAVE NOT PASSED INSPECTION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO ARE ANY OF THOSE, UM, SAFETY ISSUES? MOST OF THE SAFETY TYPE, UH, TYPE VIOLATIONS THEY'VE ADDRESSED ALREADY? A LOT OF THESE HAVE TO DO WITH BIGGER ISSUES, SOME SUCH AS LANDSCAPING ISSUES WHERE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE REQUIRED TO REPLANT THINGS. 
          UH, AGAIN, WE, WE JUST CAME OFF OF, UH, THE WINTER SEASON. 
          WE'RE GETTING NOW INTO THE TIME WHERE IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THEM TO START WORKING ON THAT THOSE EIGHT PROPERTIES ARE ON NOTICE AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY VERY QUICKLY GET EVERYTHING UP UPDATED. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED, THEY ARE, UH, THEY'VE ESTABLISHED COMPLIANCE PLANS THAT THEY'VE PROVIDED US WITH, THAT WE'RE HOLDING THEM TO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR OF THIS. 
          HOW DO YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING? IS IT ACCOMPLISHING WHAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH? DO YOU HAVE THE PROPER TECHNOLOGY AND PEOPLE? I THINK OVERALL WE DO. 
          I'LL, I'LL LET OMAR, UH, UH, ADD ANY INPUT THAT HE'D LIKE TO ADD. 
          SORRY, OMAR , HE DRESSED UP. 
          SO HE IS, HE'S GONNA PUT IT TO USE. 
          GIVE HIM SOME AIRTIME. 
          . 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          UH, MAYOR COUNCIL MIRANDA, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE MANAGER. 
          UM, NO, I THINK IT'S WORKED OUT, UM, IN OUR FAVOR REALLY. 
          WE'VE COME TO KNOW SOME OF THESE OWNERS ALREADY AND WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, ON A FIRST NAME BASIS OR WE HAVE THAT CONTACT. 
          I MEAN, IT HELPS HAVE THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE ON FILE AS WELL. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, ON THE SECOND YEAR WITH THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE MADE TO OUR, UM, INNER GOV IS WHAT WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW. 
          I THINK IT'S GONE A WHOLE LOT SMOOTHER. 
          GREAT. 
          I WAS HOPING YOU'D SAY THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU HONOR, MARLON. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UM, GREAT WORK, UH, BY YOU AND YOUR, YOUR DEPARTMENT, YOUR TEAM. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          UM, ON THE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, WE'VE GOT A, AS YOU KNOW, A LOT MORE, UH, RENTALS IN THAT SPACE, MAYBE YES. 
          MAYBE THREE TIMES WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, AND I, UH, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE WORKED WITH SOME OF YOUR HOA BOARDS BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UM, AND I KNOW THAT THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO YOU ALL, BUT HAVE YOU COMMUNICATED BACK? YES. 
          SOME, SOME OF 'EM HAVE ACTUALLY, UM, INDICATED TO US THAT THEY'RE, UM, IN THE PROCESS OF REGISTERING SOME OF THESE RENTALS WITH THE HOA, ONCE THEY'VE COMPILED THAT LIST, THEY'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION TO US. 
          SO WE'VE KIND OF MAINTAINED AN OPENED, UH, DIALOGUE WITH THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          TO TRY TO GET THAT INFORMATION ONE MORE TIME AND THEN TRACK YOUR THOUGHT. 
          SO SOME OF THEM, SOME OF THE ASSOCIATIONS HAVE ACTUALLY STARTED DOING, UH, REGISTRATION PROCESSES ON THEIR OWN SO THAT THEY HAVE THEIR HOA YEAH. 
          SO THAT THEY HAVE A RECORD OF WHAT HOMES ARE, ARE BEING RENTED OUT WITHIN THEIR HOA. 
          AND ONCE THEY'VE COMPILED THAT INFORMATION, THEY WANT, THEY'RE, UH, WILLING TO SHARE THAT DATA WITH US SO THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO THOSE AND INFORM THEM OF THE TOWNS FOR, UH, REQUIREMENTS AS WELL. 
          AND AFTER THEY'VE SHARED THAT WITH YOU, THEY YES, SIR. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US ON AND PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, I JUST, UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A TON OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT THERE. 
          YES. 
          AND I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE MAKING GREAT EFFORTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU OMAR. 
          UM, AND, AND RAY FOR, UH, MAKING THIS HAPPEN. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          SO ARE THE ENHANCEMENTS IN THE WORKFLOW ALREADY IN PLACE? YES. 
          WE ACTUALLY JUST DID A WALKTHROUGH WITH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM INTER GOV, UH, LAST WEEK. 
          UH, SO WE, WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT HOW WE WANTED TO REDO THE TEMPLATE ON OUR, ON OUR INTER GOV PAGE SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE THINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE SWIFTLY. 
          UH, SHE'S ACTUALLY TAKEN THAT DATA AND ACTUALLY, UH, PUT IT IN, UH, THE TEST SIDE OF INTER GOV AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO MOVE IT OVER TO PRODUCTION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE STARTING, YOU'RE STARTING TO IMPLEMENT IT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE OTHER SINGLE FAMILY, UM, HOMES THAT ARE RENT, UH, RENTERS OR RENTALS. 
          YES. 
          I, I LIKE MARLON. 
          I I THINK THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN 76 THAT, SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THOSE EFFORTS. 
          UH, WHAT IS THE, THE, SO THE COST RECOVERY ON SLIDE 14? YES. 
          UH, SO WHAT IS THE COST OF THE PROGRAM? SO ROUGHLY, UM, THIS FIGURE BASICALLY CAME FROM, UH, A TOTAL OF THE FEES THAT WERE COLLECTED IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE, UH, ANTICIPATED THE TIME, UH, OF, UH, THE INSPECTOR'S TIME IN DOING THESE INSPECTIONS, DOING THE REGISTRATION PROCESS, 
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DOING THE FOLLOW UP RE-INSPECTIONS, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          THAT'S THE FIGURE THAT WE, THAT WE LANDED ON. 
          SO I THOUGHT THE FOUR 50 WAS THE APPROXIMATE COST OF THE PROGRAM OR, YES, HIGH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I THOUGHT WE DID PROJECT THAT IT WOULD BE 85% COST RECOVERY. 
          I MEAN, SO THIS IS MAYBE, MAYBE I'M NOT, I I KIND OF RECALL THE SAME THING. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S, BUT IF NOT, THEN I WOULD EXPECT THE, THE COST OF THE PROGRAM IS HIGHER THAN THE FOUR 50. 
          YEAH. 
          LESLIE AND I, DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES STEP IN SINCE, UH, RAY WASN'T HERE. 
          WE ADOPTED, UM, WE WERE, UH, WHEN WE, THIS WAS ADOPTED, WE WERE IN THE BALLPARK OF BETWEEN 90 AND 92% OF COST RECOVERY FOR THE PROGRAM. 
          AND THE PROGRAM AMOUNT WAS, UM, ANTICIPATED TO BE AROUND $450,000. 
          UM, GRANTED ALL, WE WERE WORKING ALL IN ESTIMATES BECAUSE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, UM, WE DID NOT, WE DON'T, AND STILL TO THIS DAY, WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILIES WE WERE ESTIMATING. 
          SO WE DO CHARGE A REINSPECTION FEE. 
          SO WE WERE ESTIMATING THE, THE COST OF REINSPECTION FEES AS WELL. 
          SO THERE WERE SOME PRETTY CONSIDERABLE VARIABLES WITHIN THAT, UM, PROJECTED AMOUNT. 
          BUT THE, I'M GONNA SAY THE CORE COST OF THE PROGRAM, WHICH WAS THE PER UNIT COST, BOTH FOR MULTIFAMILY AS WELL AS, UM, THE HOTEL MOTELS, THOSE WERE, UM, I'M GONNA CALL THEM FIXED COST AT THE TIME BECAUSE WE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THOSE FIGURES WERE. 
          AND THOSE ACCOUNT FOR, UM, NEARLY A, A VERY SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THAT TOTAL COST RECOVERY. 
          SO THE ACTUAL COST TO THE TOWN TO RUN THE PROGRAM, THAT'S 450,000 APPROXIMATELY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I, I THINK YOU GUYS WON BY DOING 85% RECOVERY. 
          AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THAT'S, YOU'RE PURSUING MORE OF THAT RECOVERY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU, RAY. 
          JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          UH, YEAH. 
          THE, THE SINGLE FAMILY NUMBER CAUGHT MY EYE FOR SURE. 
          SO CERTAINLY NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT SOME. 
          UH, THE QUESTION I HAVE ON, ON YOUR, UH, ON THE NEXT STEPS AS FAR AS CON UH, OUTREACH TO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          YES, SIR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I'M WONDERING HOW EFFECTIVE MUCH, OR ANY OF THAT'S GOING TO BE. 
          'CAUSE IT'S GOING DIRECTLY TO THE PROPERTY. 
          SO THAT MEANS THE TENANT'S GOING TO RECEIVE THAT MAIL, AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE THAT'S ABOUT PROPERTY INSPECTION OR SOMETHING, THEY MAY NOT BE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT PASSING THAT ALONG TO THE RIGHT. 
          AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO ATTACK THAT FROM A VARIETY OF POINTS. 
          AS I MENTIONED, WE TALKED TO UTILITY BILLING ABOUT DOING DIRECT MAILERS AS WELL AS INSERTS WITHIN THE BILL. 
          UH, I THINK WHAT'S GONNA HELP US AS WELL IS IF WE HAVE THAT COMMUNICATION DIRECTLY WITH THE INDIVIDUALS AS THEY COME IN TO REQUEST NEW SERVICE. 
          THAT WAY, AT THE TIME THAT THEY REQUEST A SERVICE, WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER THEY'RE THE ACTUAL OWNER OR A POTENTIAL TENANT, AND THAT'LL HELP IDENTIFY THOSE FOR US. 
          YEAH. 
          ARE WE TAPPING INTO A DEC A FOR PROPERTY OWNER? WE, WE ARE, BUT IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE THAT BECAUSE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BASE IT OFF OF HOMESTEAD, BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS GONNA BE THE CASE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND SOMETIMES SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE, ARE EITHER HELD IN A LLC OR IN A TRUST. 
          YEP. 
          UH, AND THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY AS WELL. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          WITH ALL THE LLCS THAT HAVE COME ON BOARD NOW, IT GETS MORE CHALLENGING WHEN I'M LOOKING FOR NON-OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTIES. 
          I, I LOOK FOR THE MAILING ADDRESS OF THE YES. 
          OF THE, OF THE TAXPAYER. 
          YES. 
          WHICH HAS BECOME LESS EFFECTIVE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT EASY. 
          I SOMETIMES THEY LEAVE THE SAME ADDRESS. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU GUYS ARE DOING. 
          SO, SO THANK YOU, RAY. 
          THANK YOU, OMAR, LESLIE, APPRECIATE IT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          RANDY, AS A ONE, ONE QUICK QUESTION. 
          SURE. 
          I WASN'T GONNA ASK ANY, BUT JUST ONE QUICK. 
          HOW LONG DOES THE PROPERTY HAVE TO BE RENTED BEFORE IT'S CONSIDERED A RENTAL AND HAVE TO GO INTO THIS PROGRAM? UH, AS, AS LONG AS IT'S LISTED AS A RENTAL, UH, WE'RE ASKING THEM TO REGISTER WITH US. 
          THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME LEADING INTO THAT. 
          AND I'M THINKING, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE IS BEING CONTACTED, BUT PEOPLE HAVE CONTACTED ME ABOUT RENTING MY HOUSE DURING THE SOCCER TOURNAMENT THAT'S GOING ON. 
          AND IT WOULD JUST BE A, I I SAW, UH, YEAH, I SAW THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS POSTED BY AIRBNB WHERE THEY WERE ALSO ASKING, UH, THERE WAS AN INCENTIVE I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DOING, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF, IF THEY COME IN JUST FOR THE SOCCER TOURNAMENT THAT, DOES THAT FIT THE, NO, THIS IS, UH, BASICALLY FOR A LONG TERM RENTAL. 
          SO THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA, THAT SIGN A LEASE FOR WITHIN SIX YEARS. 
          SO SIX SIGN TWO YEARS? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          AIRBNB, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT WOULD BE A, THAT WOULD BE A SHORT TERM RENTAL, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT PROGRAM. 
          AND SO IT WOULD NOT BE IN THIS EITHER. 
          NO, IT'S NOT IN THIS PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S, IT'S A SEPARATE ORDINANCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          RAY, THERE WAS ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU. 
          WAS THIS THE PROGRAM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, TO HAVE SOME SIGNAGE OF SOME KIND IN THE HOTELS MOTELS? UM, THAT'S ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY PIECE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. 
          WE'VE GOT A, A DEDICATED NUMBER FOR THE DESIGNATED CITY, UH, REPRESENTATIVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, SO WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH MARKETING TO GET THOSE, UH, READY TO GO OUT TO THE HOTELS, IN HOTELS. 
          AND THEN DEPENDING ON HOW YOUR DISCUSSION GOES WITH, UH, THE MULTIFAMILY PIECE, THEN THAT MAY APPLY AS WELL. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MARLON, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? ARE YOU OKAY, QUESTION DAN MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING. 
          YEAH, DAN, GO AHEAD. 
          IT'S, THANK YOU, RAY. 
          QUICK QUESTION ON SLIDE NINE 
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TALKS ABOUT THE 10 SINGLE PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT 85% RECOVERY. 
          IF THOSE HAD BEEN A HUNDRED PERCENT AND THOSE 10, LET'S CALL IT FEES WERE ADDED BACK IN, HOW MUCH CLOSER ARE WE TO GETTING A 90%? WELL, THEY WOULD HAVE FEES COLLECTED AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME WHEN THEY WERE INSPECTED AND THEY WERE FOUND IN VIOLATION, THEY HAD ALREADY PAID THOSE FEES BECAUSE THEY PAY AT THE TIME OF REGISTRATION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THERE WASN'T MONEY LEFT ON THE TABLE THAT STILL HAS TO BE COLLECTED? NO, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN THE ELECTRICAL ON SLIDE, I THINK YOU SAID OUTSIDE, YOU HAD MENTIONED HERE IT IS ON SLIDE 11, THE EXTERIOR VIOLATIONS WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT ELECTRICAL HAZARDS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S NOT JUST A SMOKE DETECTOR, CORRECT? NO, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE SOMETHING LIKE, UH, MAYBE, UH, AN EXTERIOR, UH, OUTLET THAT'S MISSING A, A COVER, UH, OR SOME EXPOSED WIRES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          MAYBE LANDSCAPING WIRES THAT ARE, THAT ARE, DON'T HAVE THE PROPER WIRING NUTS ON 'EM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UH, USUALLY THEY'RE, THEY'RE SIMPLE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE EASY TO CORRECT. 
          WHICH THINK THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ALLUDE TO. 
          SO THESE WERE NOT LIKE, OH MY GOSH, YOU GUYS JUST STUMBLED UPON A POTENTIAL FIRE AT A PROPERTY THAT YOU SAVED THE DAY. 
          THIS IS NOT THAT. 
          NO, SIR. 
          NOT THAT SEVERE. 
          NOT THAT SEVERE, NO, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THAT'S WONDERFUL NEWS. 
          THANK YOU FOR A BEAUTIFUL JOB. 
          I, I LOVE THIS. 
          I LOVE THE STATS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, RAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          [c.  Present and discuss adding a public safety component to the Rental & Lodging Registration Program for multi-family properties. ]
THANK YOU. 
          ITEM SIX C, PRESENT AND DISCUSS ADDING A PUBLIC SAFETY COMPONENT TO THE RENTAL AND LODGING REGISTRATION PROGRAM FOR MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES CHIEF FREEZE. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. 
          CHRIS FRIES, CHIEF OF POLICE. 
          UM, THIS EVENING WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT, UH, ADDING A PUBLIC SAFETY COMPONENT TO THE MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES, UM, THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL, UH, STAFF RESEARCH WAYS TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES AND HOLD PROPERTY OWNERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR MEETING REASONABLE STANDARDS, UH, FOR THEIR PROPERTIES. 
          UM, WE'LL PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF TWO, UH, POTENTIAL MODELS AND METHODOLOGIES WE COULD USE TO KIND OF LOOK AT THIS. 
          UM, AND WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT IT, PROVIDE FEEDBACK, GIVE US WHAT YOU DESIRED METRICS AND OUTCOMES WOULD BE. 
          AND REALLY WHAT'S THE GOAL, UM, THAT COUNCIL SEES FOR LOOKING AT EXPLORING OPTIONS FOR THESE PROGRAMS. UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT EACH MODEL APPROACHES THE ISSUE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. 
          UM, ONCE THE DIRECTION IS PROVIDED TONIGHT, UH, WE CAN PROVIDE A MORE DETAILED CALCULATIONS WITH SPECIFIC DATA BASED ON THAT METHODOLOGY THAT YOU SELECT HOPEFULLY TONIGHT. 
          AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK, SHARE THAT INFORMATION AND SEE HOW WE CAN BE IMPLEMENTED AT THE IMPACT OF MADISON. 
          SO THE FIRST PROGRAM, UH, IS GONNA BE MODELED AFTER THE CARROLLTON PROGRAM. 
          UM, AND IT CALCULATES EVENTS THAT RESULT IN OFFENSE REPORTS, UM, GENERATED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          IT DOES NOT INCLUDE FIRE AND EMS CALLS AND DOES NOT INCLUDE CALLS FROM POLICE THAT DO NOT RESULT IN AN OFFENSE REPORT. 
          UM, OFTEN THERE WILL BE SOME OFFENSES EXCLUDED FROM THIS CALCULATION SUCH AS TRAFFIC OFFENSES. 
          AND THE REASON FOR THESE IS SOMEBODY SPEEDING ON AN ADJACENT ROOM, THEY JUST HAPPENED TO PULL IN ONTO THE PROPERTY. 
          WE DON'T FEEL IT WOULD BE FAIR TO COUNT THAT AS ACTIVITY THAT'S HAPPENING ON THAT PROPERTY. 
          SAME THING WITH FRAUD. 
          UM, A LOT OF TIMES VICTIMS OF FRAUD, THE OFFENSE ACTUALLY HAPPENS SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT THEY REPORT IT TO US FOR DOCUMENTATION. 
          WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN CALCULATION. 
          AND THEN FAMILY VIOLENCE, WE DON'T WANT THE, UM, POTENTIAL OF RE-VICTIMIZING SOMEBODY FOR THE VICTIM OF FAMILY VIOLENCE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE TO WHERE AN APARTMENT, UH, PROPERTY MIGHT WANT TO REVOKE THEIR LEASE, THEN THAT PERSON COULD BE VICTIMIZED A SECOND TIME. 
          SO THERE ARE SOME OFFENSES THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND EXCLUDING FROM THE LIST. 
          UM, BUT BASED ON THE REMAINING OFFENSES, WE WOULD CALCULATE AN APARTMENT CRIME INDEX BY DIVIDING THE TOTAL NUMBER, NUMBER OF REPORTABLE EVENTS BY THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS. 
          WE WOULD ALSO CALCULATE A TOWN WIDE CRIME INDEX BY PROVIDING THE TOTAL NUMBER OF REPORTABLE EVENTS IN THE CITY BY THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS. 
          UM, AND THEN ANY PROPERTY WITH AN APARTMENT CRIME INDEX ABOVE THE CITY CRIME INDEX WOULD BE SUBJECT TO, UH, ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND OVERSIGHTS. 
          BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS HAVE THOSE ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHTS, WHICH WE'LL ADDRESS ON THE SLIDE AFTER THIS NEXT ONE, AND THEN WE CAN TALK THROUGH THOSE AS WELL. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST MODEL AND METHODOLOGY THAT WE COULD EXPLORE. 
          UH, THE SECOND ONE, UH, WOULD BE MODELED AFTER ONE THAT, UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS USES. 
          AND THIS RELIES HEAVILY ON OFFENSES LISTED IN CHAPTER 1 25 FOR THE TEXAS CIVIL PRACTICE. 
          AND REMEDIES CODE, UM, AGAIN, DOES NOT INCLUDE FAMILY VIOLENCE, UH, BUT IT COULD DECLARE A PROPERTY HABIT, UH, HABITUAL OF CRIMINAL PROPERTY IF FIVE MORE EMBEDABLE CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES LISTED WITHIN, UM, 1 25 OCCUR WITHIN A 12 MONTH PERIOD. 
          AND PERSONS HAVE HISTORICALLY COMMITTED DEBATABLE CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES ON THE PRO ON THE THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, 1 25 HAS A WHOLE HOST OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES, BUT THEY'RE TYPICALLY HIGHER LEVEL OFFENSES SUCH AS DISCHARGING A FIREARM, ORGANIZED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, 
          [00:35:01]
VICE CRIMES, AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, ROBBERY, UNLAWFUL CRIMINAL WEAPON, MURDER, ARSON, GRAFFITI, UH, IF DECLARED A PATROL CRIMINAL PROPERTY, AGAIN, WE CAN LOOK AT ADDITIONAL, UM, OVERSIGHTS FOR THAT PROPERTY. 
          , UH, FOR THE MOST PART, AND SOME TALKING POINTS WE CAN HAVE WHEN WE GET TO THE CON, UH, CONVERSATION OR THE QUESTIONS ASPECT, IS IF YOU LOOK AT ARSON AND, AND, UH, CRIMINAL MISCHIEF SPECIFICALLY, THOSE ARE TYPICALLY NOT ARSON. 
          CRIMINAL MISCHIEF CAN BE A LOWER LEVEL OFFENSE. 
          SO ONE THING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IS HOW MANY OFFENSES WOULD YOU ALLOW PROPERTY TO HAVE? BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A LARGE PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY WITH A PARKING GARAGE OVER THE COURSE OF ONE WEEKEND, IF YOU HAD SOMEBODY JUST GO IN THERE AND SMASHING FIVE CAR WINDOWS, ESSENTIALLY THEY COULD THEN BEEN DEEMED A HABITUAL PROPERTY BASED ON THAT ONE INCIDENT. 
          SO THERE ARE SOME CONVERSATION PIECES THAT WE CAN HAVE, AND AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS WE CAN REALLY DRILL DOWN. 
          AND WITH THIS BEING AN ORDINANCE, UM, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REALLY DRILL DOWN ON WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO. 
          WE CAN MAKE IT VERY SPECIFIC TO THE GOALS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE METRICS YOU WANNA SEE FOR THE OUTCOMES. 
          SO SOME OF THE, UM, ENFORCEMENT OPTIONS, UH, FOR THOSE PROPERTIES, ONCE WE DEEM WHAT WE WANT TO KIND OF LOOK AT, UM, YOU COULD DO MONTHLY PROGRAM FEES. 
          WE LIKE FINES FOR VIOLATION AND NON-COMPLIANCE. 
          WE CAN SET MINIMUM, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING NOT LIMITED TO THE NUMBER OF SECURITY GUARDS THEY HAVE TO HAVE DURING SPECIFIC TIMES OR 24 HOURS A DAY M TO OUR PATROL OF PROPERTY TO TO IDENTIFY LOITERING, VANDALISM, ET CETERA. 
          UH, MANDATED SEP TED RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          THAT'S THAT. 
          CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, UM, REQUIRE SURVEILLANCE AND MONITORING SYSTEMS, ENSURE THE OWNER'S ENFORCING LEASE CLAUSES, UM, ENSURE TENANT SCREENING, ENFORCEMENT PROPERTY RULES, ET CETERA. 
          UM, AND ALSO WE CAN MANDATE MANDATORY CRIME BUNCH MEETINGS. 
          SO AGAIN, JUST IDEAS OF ONCE WE IDENTIFY THE METHODOLOGY TO HOW ARE WE GONNA SEE AND REGULATE THESE PROPERTIES, THEN WHAT'S THE ACTION? WHENEVER THERE'S PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION, WHAT'S OUR RESPONSE TO IT? SO AGAIN, WE'RE SEEKING SPECIFIC DIRECTION ON WHAT COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO SEE WITH THIS PROGRAM. 
          AND THEN ONCE THAT PROVIDED, WE WILL RUN THE NUMBERS, WE'LL COME BACK, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION AND WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH IT. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF MARK. 
          YEAH, THANKS MAYOR. 
          UM, THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          YES SIR. 
          UH, QUESTION FOR YOU, UM, AS FAR AS THE MULTI-FAMILIES, WHY WOULD THEY NOT BE THE SAME AS THE LODGING FOR THE HOTEL MOTEL? YES. 
          SO I THINK TWO SEPARATE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING TO ADDRESS. 
          UM, THESE ARE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. 
          THEY'RE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN TOWN AND IF COUNSEL'S LOOKING FOR SPECIFIC CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND LOCATIONS OR IF THEY'RE LOOKING TO SEE HOW APARTMENT COMPLEXES, YOU KNOW, MET OR, UM, STAND UP TO CRIME ACROSS TOWN. 
          THAT'S ONE THING WITH HOTELS IN THE ORDINANCE WE DRAFTED THERE. 
          THOSE ARE TYPICALLY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING THROUGH TOWN FOR NIGHT OR TWO NIGHTS. 
          AND HOW MUCH RESOURCES ARE THEY DRAINING FROM THE TOWN FOR BEING HERE FOR SUCH A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME. 
          SO TYPICALLY THOSE ARE LOOKING FOR THOSE NARCOTIC ISSUES, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO IT'S REALLY TWO SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS, I BELIEVE, WITH HOW WE WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE PROBLEMS. OKAY. 
          I'M, I'M JUST KIND OF STRUGGLING WITH THAT. 
          IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE TAKING UP OUR RESOURCES, WHETHER THEY'RE COMING THROUGH TOWN OVERNIGHT OR LONG TERM, I DON'T REALLY SEE THE DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN, IN CONSUMING OUR RESOURCES. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND SO A CONVERSATION FROM COUNCIL, AGAIN, IT'S WE'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD IS WHAT'S THE GOAL FROM COUNCIL OF WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT JUST MIRRORING WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH HOTELS, I THINK IF WE'RE DOING, WE'RE GONNA PUT THIS FORWARD, THERE MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY OF DOING THAT TO LOOK AT THE GRANDER PICTURE OF WHAT WE WANNA DO WITH APARTMENTS. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, IN TOWN. 
          I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. 
          AND I WAS, I GUESS I WAS EXPECTING WHEN WE ASKED FOR YOU TO BRING IT FORWARD, I WAS EXPECTING SOME COMPARISON TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAD. 
          UM, 'CAUSE THAT WAS THE CONTEXT OF, OF THE DISCUSSION. 
          SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT OH YEAH. 
          WE CAN RUN THE NUMBERS BASED ON THAT METHODOLOGY AND INCLUDE IN THE CONVERSATION AS WELL. 
          YES SIR. 
          I'M NOT LOOKING TO TARGET MANY APARTMENTS. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP, KEEP WHAT WE'RE DOING FAIR TO, UM, TO BOTH, BOTH THE HOTELS AND THE, UH, MULTIFAMILY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF, THIS IS SO NEEDED. 
          I'M SO GLAD TO SEE THIS HAPPENING. 
          UM, AND SO ON SLIDE FIVE, UM, YET YES, JUST YES, YES SIR. 
          ALL OF IT. 
           YEAH. 
          AND MORE OF IT. 
          SO, UH, I THINK IT'S, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE, IN THE MULTIFAMILY, THEY DESERVE TO HAVE GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE ALSO. 
          AND I, AND I REALLY LIKE TO SEE THINGS LIKE THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF SECURITY GUARDS AT ALL TIMES. 
          AND THE MANDATORY PATROL. 
          SPEAKING OF THAT, MANDATORY PATROL, IS IT OUR PATROL OR IS THAT THEIR PATROL BY THEIR SECURITY GUARD? NO, WE, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THEM HIRING, UM, SECURITY. 
          THEY CAN GO PATROL THE PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I THINK THAT IS, IS MINIMUM IS, IS SOME NECESSARY THINGS WE SHOULD SET. 
          SO I, UH, ALL, ALL ON BOARD WITH THAT GETTING SPECIFIC THEN. 
          WELL I WOULD EXPECT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS TO COME UP WITH SOME OF THOSE PARAMETERS ON THOSE THINGS, BUT I'M IN FAVOR OF ALL OF THAT. 
          AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN THINK OF? RANDY? 
          [00:40:01]
THANK YOU ECHO ALL OF THIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, 1 25, GO BACK TO YOUR, UH, LIST OF OFFENSES. 
          I, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT HAD TO DO WITH DRUGS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          JUST 1 25, NOT A ADDRESS, NO ADDRESS. 
          THERE WAS PROBABLY 30 DIFFERENT OFFENSES, SO WE JUST KIND OF HIGH LEVEL SOMEONE, JUST THAT ONE'S ON EVERYONE'S MIND. 
          I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE THERE. 
          I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT, THAT YEAH, IT'S LISTED IN ONE FORM AND, AND AGAIN, WITH THE ORDINANCE WE CAN ADD TO THAT, WE CAN NARROW THAT LIST BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT DRAFTING AN ORDINANCE SPECIFIC TO ADDISON. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE CAN USE THIS AS A MODEL. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, JUST LIKE I MENTIONED WITH, YOU KNOW, CRIMINAL MISCHIEF, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT NOT WANNA LOOK AT ADDING ON THERE, BUT WE WANNA ADD ANY NARCOTICS RELATED ISSUES OR WE, WE CAN HAVE ABSOLUTELY, YEAH, WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          YEP. 
          THAT, UM, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. 
          THANK YOU CHRIS. 
          SO CHIEF, CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY, ARE WE DOING SOME SORT OF PUBLIC SAFETY COMPONENT FOR THE HOTEL? YES SIR, WE ARE. 
          IS IT, UH, BECAUSE I MEAN, ARE WE, DO WE HAVE THE ENFORCEMENT OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE ON THAT AS WELL? YES, SIR. 
          SO WITH OKAY. 
          YEAH, WITH THE, UH, THE CURRENT HOTEL MOTEL ORDINANCE, WE BASE THAT SOLELY OFF OF CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR POLICE AND FIRE. 
          UM, ADDED THAT FOR THE ROOMS FOR, UH, NUMBER OF ROOMS UNIT, WE GET A CALL FOR SERVICE RATIO. 
          IF PROPERTIES EXCEED A CERTAIN CALL FOR SERVICE RATIO, THEN THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF, THEY'RE LABELED AS A TIER TWO PROPERTY, WHICH THEN TRIGGERS CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO ESSENTIALLY MAINTAIN THEIR CO. 
          AND, AND I'M SORRY IF I SHOULD KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT HAVE WE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE REFINING SOME OF THESE HOTELS? SO WE'RE NOT, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE POINT OF REFIND. 
          WE'VE GOT FOUR HOTELS CURRENTLY THAT ARE IN THAT STATUS THAT WE'VE NOTIFIED AND WE'RE WORKING WITH. 
          AGAIN, 'CAUSE THE GOAL OF THE HOTEL, UH, ORDINANCE WAS TO GET PROPERTIES TO WORK WITH US TO LOWER THEIR CALL FOR SERVICE LOAD TO JUST LOWER THE BURDEN OF US CONSTANTLY RESPONDING TO THOSE LOCATIONS FOR ANY NUMBER OF OPTIONS OR ANY NUMBER OF, OF OF CALLS FOR SERVICE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE, WE'VE HAD SOME GOOD SUCCESS WITH MEETING WITH SOME PROPERTIES AND, AND GETTING THAT, UM, GETTING THOSE NUMBERS DOWN. 
          THAT'S THE IDEA IS JUST GET EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE DOING WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING. 
          MANAGER MANAGING THEIR PROPERTIES. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE, I MEAN, I, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING'S, EVERYTHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID. 
          UM, IF WE DID A, UH, THE FIRST MODEL, MODEL ONE WHERE YOU DID AN APARTMENT CRIME INDEX, LIKE DO WE, DO WE PUBLISH THAT SO POTENTIAL RENTERS WOULD KNOW TO EITHER STAY OR YEAH, WE, WE COULD, WE COULD, AND AGAIN, WE CAN MAKE THIS PROGRAM HOWEVER COUNCIL CHOOSES TO, TO, TO DRAFT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT I WOULD BE THINKING IS THAT, I MEAN, THAT MIGHT BE SORT OF THE STICK THAT WE SAY, HEY, WE'RE MONITORING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CRIME INDEX. 
          AND ONCE YOU GET TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, IT GETS, UH, PUBLISHED. 
          DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT? I WOULD SAY OUR CRIME DATA IS PUBLIC, UH, ON THE DASHBOARD ANYWAYS. 
          IS THAT, DID YOU HEAR MY QUESTION WITH, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LEGALLY DO IF WE HAVE ONE PARTICULAR, UM, COMPLEX THAT IS, UM, HABITUAL, YOU KNOW, CRIMINAL PROPERTY, ARE WE ALLOWED TO PUBLISH THAT INDEX THAT MIGHT PERSUADE A RENTER FROM CHOOSING THAT PROPERTY? WELL, I THINK, UH, YOU'VE KIND OF HIT ON A COUPLE IMPORTANT POINTS THAT MAY, MAY WARRANT EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          I THINK KINDA TALK ABOUT THE LEGAL, UH, ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS AND, AND STRATEGIES THAT WE HAVE. 
          UM, I I, I HESITATE TO TALK ABOUT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, UH, IN, IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS CONVERSATION. 
          BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM AN ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE FOR INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES. 
          YEAH, IT'S JUST REALLY HYPOTHE HYPOTHETICAL. 
          IF YOU HAD A PROPERTY THAT WE KNEW HAD A, A TON OF CALLS AND BASED ON OUR DEFINITION WAS A HABITUAL CRIMINAL PROPERTY, ARE WE ALLOWED, ARE WE ALLOWED THAT EVERY SINGLE APARTMENT COMPLEX IN ADDISON, UM, EVERY YEAR PUBLISH THAT, UH, INDEX? YEAH. 
          THE, THE INFORMATION WOULD BE PUB WOULD BE PUBLIC, THE INDEX, AND THAT COULD BE PUBLISHED ON THE WEBSITE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE HABITUAL OFFENDERS VERSUS NOT HABITUAL OFFENDERS, THAT KIND OF THING. 
          THAT'S ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION. 
          AGAIN, I WOULD CAUTION US AGAINST SINGLING OUT ANY INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES IN THAT TYPE OF DISTRIBUTION OF INFORMATION. 
          SO YOU COULDN'T SAY X, Y, Z PROPERTY, HERE'S THEIR INDEX. 
          YEAH, WE, WE COULD, WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT AND LOOK AT THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO TO, TO CLASSIFY THAT. 
          BUT IT KIND OF DEPENDS AGAIN, ON WHAT TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT ACTION IS UNDERLYING AND GOING ON WITH THE, THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM AS WELL. 
          UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT. 
          THE DATA ITSELF IS CERTAINLY PUBLIC. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT, THAT'S ALL. 
          I THANK YOU CHIEF JARED. 
          UH, I 
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LIKE, I DO LIKE THE CRIME INDEX FOR ALL THE, ALL THE PROPERTIES. 
          I THINK THAT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY TO, TO SEE. 
          UH, THAT'S, SO HOW THAT COMES OUT AND, AND IS USED, I'M, I'M NOT SURE, BUT SOMETHING PUBLIC IS, IS ALWAYS GOOD MOTIVATOR FOR THE PROPERTIES TO HAVE GOOD, UM, STATISTICS, UH, LIKE MARLIN WAS MENTIONED ABOUT WITH HOTELS, I'M, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT WHAT OUTCOME ARE WE LOOKING FOR ON THE HOTELS. 
          WE, YOU MENTIONED WE HAVE, WE, WE KIND OF WENT A DIFFERENT DIRECTION TO JUST TO LOWER CALLS ON THE HOTELS. 
          UM, IT'S, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE KIND OF A REVISIT OF THAT AND PROBABLY AFTER THE YEAR THAT WE GO BY WHEN WE KIND OF REEVALUATE THE PROGRAM. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON THAT. 
          I DO, THERE'S A LOT OF THIS, UM, ON SLIDE FIVE THAT JUST APPLIES OVER TO HOTELS AS WELL FOR, I MEAN, MINIMUM SECURITY GUARD REQUIREMENTS AND PATROLS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          SEEMS LIKE THAT THOSE SHOULD BE THINGS THAT WE OH, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ON THAT, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ADDRESS AS WELL, DARREN. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          I'M GONNA MISS THOSE DETAILS. 
          THANKS RANDY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          REMEMBER MY QUESTION TO MARLIN'S POINT IN THE, IN THE, UH, HOTEL AND AND APARTMENT KIND OF TREAT, TRYING TO TREAT THEM EVENLY. 
          I DO WHAT I DO LOOK AT THE FRIDAY REPORTS PRETTY CLOSELY AND, AND KIND OF TRACK ADDRESSES, UH, FOR FIRE AND POLICE BLOTTER ON THAT. 
          AND THERE'S A LOT OF ADDRESSES THAT ARE PRETTY COMMON TO POP UP ALL THE TIME ON THERE. 
          AND, UH, UH, I I JUST THINK THAT WOULD BE A WAY OF TRYING TO KEEP IT FAIR. 
          UH, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FIVE INSTANCES OR SOMETHING. 
          I, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          IN A PARKING GARAGE, IF YOU HAVE ONE TEENAGER THAT GOES THROUGH THERE ONE NIGHT WITH A BASEBALL BAT KNOCKING MIRRORS OFF CARS AND BUSTING OUT WINDOWS ON 10 CARS, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE FAIR, UH, TO, TO CLASSIFY THAT AS 10 SEPARATE INCIDENTS. 
          I KNOW THERE'S 10 SEPARATE VICTIMS, BUT THAT'S KIND OF ONE, ONE DEAL. 
          SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING AT, AT IT THAT WAY AND, AND SUPPORT YOU IN THAT ON AS WELL. 
          BUT, UH, AS FAR AS LOOKING AT INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSES AND TRYING TO ADDRESS CERTAIN THINGS, I WOULD BE ALL ALL ON BOARD FOR THAT. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          CHIEF, YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE? I MISSED ONE QUESTION. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          SO WHAT KIND OF EXTRA RESOURCES ARE WE LOOKING AT ONTO, UH, POLICE STAFF? AND THAT MAY BE THIS PART OF THE QUESTION TONIGHT IS WHAT SCOPE DO, DOES COUNSEL WANT TO GIVE YOU AND THEN, UH, CAN THAT BE ABSORBED IN THE CURRENT STAFF THAT YOU HAVE? RIGHT. 
          UM, SO AS FAR AS, AGAIN, DEPENDING ON WHICH METHODOLOGY, ONE KIND OF DIRECTS LOOKS AT EACH PROPERTY INDIVIDUALLY. 
          THE OTHER ONE LOOKS AT APARTMENTS AS THEY COMPARE TO THE TOWN. 
          AND THAT'S ONE THING IF WE CAN RUN THE NUMBERS AND WE CAN COME BACK WITH THE CURRENT METHODOLOGY FOR THE HOTELS AS WELL. 
          BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT REALLY LOOKING AT HOW APARTMENTS RELATE TO TOWNS. 
          THAT WOULD KIND OF FALL IN THAT OTHER METHODOLOGY OF LOOKING AT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES, NOT REALLY COMPARING THEM TO OTHER, YOU KNOW, OTHER AREAS WITHIN TOWN. 
          UM, BUT SAME THING WE LOOK AT AND RUN THE NUMBERS AND THEN WE HAVE A CRIME, UH, ENGAGEMENT OFFICER, WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY RESPONSE TEAM, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO. 
          THEY REALLY SOLVE THOSE LONGER TERM, UH, LONGER UH, PROBLEMS TO WHERE IT'S NOT JUST PATROL OFFICERS RESPONDING. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD ADD TO THEIR, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE IF, IF WE HOLD, IF, IF WE DO THIS THEN WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SPIKE OF OF CLEANING THINGS UP IN, IN THE BEGINNING, BUT AS WE GO ALONG IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD LOWER THE DEMAND ON, ON THE, ON OUR POLICING. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          WOULD BE THAT JUST, UH, I WANT KEEP THAT IN MIND AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE WANT YOU TO DO NEW THINGS, A LOT OF TIMES THAT COSTS MORE MONEY. 
          SO, UM, I ALWAYS LIKE TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO CHIEF, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          SO WE, WE'VE GOT THE OPTION ONE, OPTION TWO, CARROLLTON IN DALLAS. 
          ARE YOU RECOMMENDING EITHER ONE OF THESE OR MERGING THEM TOGETHER SOME KIND OF WAY? I MIGHT'VE MISSED THAT. 
          SO, SO MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE VISION OF COUNSEL FOR THIS? BECAUSE AGAIN, THESE TWO THINGS ADDRESS TWO SEPARATE THINGS WITH THE CARROLLTON MODEL, YOU ARE CREATING A APARTMENT CRIME INDEX AND THEN COMPARING THAT TO TOWN CRIME, THE INDEX THROUGHOUT THE TOWN AND COMPARING OUR APARTMENTS GREATER OR LESS THAN THE REST OF TOWN, IF IT'S GREATER THAN A CERTAIN PROPERTY IS GREATER THAN WHAT'S GOING ON IN TOWN WIDE. 
          'CAUSE WE WANNA BE FAIR AND WE THINK THAT EVERYTHING SHOULD BE ON PAR, THEN WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE PROPERTIES WITH CRIME MITIGATION TECHNIQUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THE DALLAS MODEL DOES NOT COMPARE IT TO ANYTHING IN TOWN. 
          IT'S LOOKING AT LOCATION SPECIFIC SOLELY WHAT'S GOING ON AT THAT INDIVIDUAL LOCATION. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE SO MANY OFFENSES THAT WE DEEM OR COULD BE HABITUAL, THEN WE WILL GO AND TALK TO YOU AND ENFORCE THIS PROGRAM. 
          SO THE QUESTION REALLY IS, IS WHAT IS IT THAT COUNCIL'S LOOKING TO ADDRESS AND WHAT ARE THE, WHAT'S THE DESIRED OUTCOME? YEAH. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ASPECTS OF BOTH OF THEM THAT ARE PRETTY ATTRACTIVE AND WONDERING IF MAYBE THEY COULDN'T BE SOMEHOW MERGED TOGETHER IN SOME KIND OF WAY. 
          AND I'M NOT, WE WE, WE, WE, WE PROBABLY AREN'T THE EXPERTS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT. 
          SO I, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEE A RECOMMENDATION FROM, FROM YOU SIR AND YOUR COMMAND TA COMMAND STAFF AND SEE WHAT YOU ALL THINK. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE COUNCIL IS ON THAT. 
          UM, THE OTHER QUESTION 
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I HAVE ON ENFORCEMENT OPTIONS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE POSSIBILITIES, MINIMUM NUMBER OF SECURITY GUARDS. 
          AT WHAT LEVEL, HOW DO WE KNOW WHO THOSE SECURITY GUARDS ARE? WHAT LEVEL ARE THEY HIRING? IS IT PRIVATE SECURITY? IS WE WOULD HAVE CONVERSATIONS, BUT WE WOULD, TO YOUR POINT, WE WOULD NOT BE IN CHARGE OF HIRING THE SECURITY GUARDS. 
          WE COULD HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. 
          UM, SOME, UH, APARTMENTS ALREADY HAVE COURTESY OFFICERS THAT, THAT LIVE ON SITE. 
          SO IT COULD BE THAT ASPECT OF IT. 
          BUT YES, IT WOULD BE THE UP TO THE PROPERTIES TO MAINTAIN THEIR OWN STANDARDS. 
          MOST OF THEM WOULD HAVE WHAT'S LIKE A LEVEL THREE SECURITY GUARD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, SECURITY GUARDS FOR THE MOST PART ARE LICENSED BY THE STATE IF THEY HOLD SOME DOUBLE SECURITY GUARD COMMISSION. 
          BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL PROB. 
          THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DICTATE AND SAY, YOU NEED TO HIRE THIS SPECIFIC, NO TYPE OF SECURITY GUARD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT JUST HIRING SOMEBODY JUST FOR THE APPEARANCE OF HA HAVING SOMEBODY THAT HE'S NOT REALLY GONNA PAY ATTENTION TO LLOYD DURING OR VANDALISM OR NOISE COMPLAINTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD MONITOR THAT AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME SORT OF STANDARD IN PLACE. 
          BUT MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS ON THAT TOO, SIR. 
          RANDY? YES. 
          THANK AND YOU BRING UP AN EXCELLENT POINT. 
          I'M SORRY, CAN WE GO TO DAN FIRST? OH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          GO AHEAD DAN. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHIEF, GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          BACK TO BRUCE'S POINT, AND I'VE USED THIS WORD, UH, PROBABLY 25 TIMES. 
          IN YOUR OPINION, WHICH ONE IS GONNA GET OUR, GET OUR TOWN THE BETTER RATE OF ENFORCEMENT, WHICH WILL SELF-CORRECT THE AMOUNT OF CALLS YOUR POLICE OFFICERS WILL BE TAKING, IN YOUR OPINION? BOTH, BOTH POLICIES OFFER RIGHT. 
          GOOD SOLUTIONS. 
          UM, WE'LL GO FORWARD WHATEVER COUNCIL WANTS US TO DO. 
          AND AGAIN, IT'S BASED ON WHAT IS THAT DESIRED OUTCOMES. 
          AND I THINK I SAID BEFORE, IT'S TWO SEPARATE THINGS AND MAYOR, WE CAN LOOK AT MERGING THE TWO TO SEE, OKAY, COME BACK WITH AN IDEA OF HOW THIS COULD KIND OF HIT BOTH. 
          UM, BUT I THINK IT IT, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT KINDA ANSWER FROM COUNCIL OF DO WE WANT TO COMPARE APARTMENTS TO THE REST OF TOWN OR DO WE WANNA COMPARE APARTMENTS TO APARTMENTS? MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING. 
          IF, IF THAT'S WHAT THAT, THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO. 
          ARE WE LOOKING TO COMPARE APARTMENTS TO THE REST OF TOWN TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON? OR DO WE JUST WANNA LOOK AT EACH INDIVIDUAL APARTMENT PROPERTY AND COMPARE THEM TO EACH OTHER OR LOOK AT EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY ON ITS OWN MERITS AND ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS. 
          YEAH, THAT, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT. 
          AND, AND TO ME, I SEE APARTMENTS, IT, IT'S A SEPARATE HOUSING TYPE AND TO COMPARE THOSE WITH SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, I THINK IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING TO DO THAT. 
          'CAUSE JUST THE, THE DYNAMIC IS DIFFERENT. 
          UH, SO I DON'T, I I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO, TO MAKE THAT SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT ON THAT. 
          AND RANDY, I THINK YOU WERE UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          TO YOUR POINT, TO THE MAYOR'S POINT ON THE SECURITY GUARDS, DO WE NOT HAVE A WAY THAT THEY WOULD REGISTER WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT OR WITH THE CITY AND PAY A FEE FOR, LIKE, IF YOU HAVE A RENTAL HOUSE, YOU GOTTA PAY A FEE TO DO IT, BUT TO HAVE AN APPROVED LIST BY, BY THEM COMING AND REGISTERING AND BEING APPROVED TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE VETTED OR WHATEVER, PARTICULARLY ARMED, UH, SECURITY. 
          SO THE CITY OF TEXAS REQUIRES LIKE, UH, SECURITY COMPANIES TO CARRY THOSE, THOSE SECURITY COMMISSIONS, RIGHT? AND THEN BE COMING ON THOSE COMPANIES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE HIRING VETTED INDIVIDUALS. 
          BUT NO, CURRENTLY WE DON'T MANAGE THAT AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE THEM REGISTER WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR US TO KEEP UP WITH OUR CERTIFICATIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REGISTER WITH THE STATE, BASICALLY? MM-HMM . 
          AND, AND THOSE ARE THE ONES I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT. 
          I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE, WHEN THEY JUST HIRED THE TEENAGER TO PATROL THE, THE, THE PARKING LOT. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF THE PROPERTY, IF THEY WANNA HIRE JUST A, A NON ARMED SECURITY GUARD JUST TO DO THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY WOULD DO. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD MANAGE. 
          SO YOU'RE REFERRING TO AN ARMED SECURITY GUARD BEING REGISTERED BY THE STATE? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE THEN YOU'VE GOT A CARRIER BE A PEACE OFFICER, OR IS THERE A NO, THEY'RE NOT POLICE OFFICERS. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY CAN HAVE THEIR, I THINK IT'S THE LEVEL THREE SECURITY, UH, OFFICER LICENSE, BUT IT'S NOT A PEACE OFFICER. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE A WAY OF, WE WOULD KNOW WHO'S PATROLLING THAT PARKING LOT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. 
          SO I, I WILL SAY, AND TO YOUR, TO DARREN'S POINT EARLIER, THAT WOULD BE A HEAVY LIFT FOR STAFF BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF, BECAUSE THEN DO WE ONLY DO IT FOR APARTMENTS? 'CAUSE BUSINESSES HAVE MOBILE SECURITY. 
          RIGHT NOW, THE VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, THEY HAVE SECURITY OFFICERS AND I DON'T WANNA PAY THE APARTMENTS, BUT I WOULD THINK ANYBODY WHO'S PATROLLING IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW IF IT'S A HEAVY LIFT ON THE DEPARTMENT. 
          I DON'T WANT TO BURDEN THE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, I JUST, I KNOW YOU, I WANT QUALIFIED PEOPLE. 
          I KNOW. 
          PROTECTING OUR PEOPLE. 
          WE DON'T WANT COUSIN BARNEY DOWN THERE. 
          BINGO. 
          YEAH, I KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          I COUSIN BARNEY'S GREAT. 
          I'M SURE, CHRIS, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION CHIEF, LIKE, I WANT THIS TO REALLY MEAN SOMETHING. 
          UM, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I THINK THE WHOLE 
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APARTMENT, APARTMENT COMPARISON MAKES SENSE. 
          LIKE WE HAVE IN THE PRESENTATION, THE APARTMENT CRIME INDEX, YOU DIVIDE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF REPORTABLE EVENTS BY THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DWELLINGS. 
          I THINK YOU'RE GETTING TO A NUMBER THAT IS, IS MEANINGFUL. 
          AND IF WE POST THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT VERY FAVORABLE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT AFFECTS OCCUPANCY, WHICH AFFECTS PROFITABILITY. 
          I, I THINK A LOT OF THE CRIMES WE SEE COULD BE PREVENTED IF SOME OF THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES HAD BETTER MANAGEMENT. 
          SO THAT MIGHT BE JUST THE TOOL WE NEED TO SAY, HEY, IF YOU'RE NOT MANAGING THE PROPERTY WELL ENOUGH TO PREVENT SOME OF THESE CRIMES, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR POTENTIAL RENTERS WILL KNOW ABOUT IT AND THEY MIGHT NOT WANNA LIVE THERE. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S MY THOUGHT, BARBARA, TO APARTMENT, UH, COMPARISONS. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          HIS HAND UP. 
          MARLON, I'M, I'M GONNA CHIME IN ONE MORE TIME REAL QUICK. 
          SO, CHIEF, LIKE, LIKE MARLON HAD SAID ABOUT THE TIER PROGRAMS, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE REALLY QUICK SIX MONTHS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A, YOU'RE, YOU'RE EITHER FALLING INTO THAT TIER ONE OR TWO, TWO CATEGORY. 
          CAN THIS BE SIMPLIFIED IN THE SAME RESPECTS, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHETHER IT BE OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO, WHO'S REALLY, THE OFFENDERS NEED TO BE HIGHLIGHTED IN OUR OWNERS OF THESE PROPERTIES, EVEN IF THEY'RE OFF ON SOME TASSIAN ISLAND, ARE THEY GONNA BE NOTIFIED THAT WE ARE CREATING A NEW ORDINANCE THAT THEY HAVE TO AGREE TO SIGN OFF ON THAT THEY'RE HIRING POTENTIALLY BAD MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OR IRRESPONSIBLE MANAGEMENT GROUPS TO MANAGE THEIR APARTMENTS? YES, SIR. 
          NOTIFICATION, YES, SIR. 
          WHICH, SAME THING WITH, UH, THE HOTEL ORDINANCE. 
          WHICHEVER MODEL WE GO WITH, WE WOULD'VE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. 
          'CAUSE AGAIN, THE, THE GOAL OF ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS IS TO GAIN COMPLIANCE, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, COLLABORATE WITH OUR PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          SO YEAH, WE WOULD'VE THOSE CONVERSATIONS LONG BEFORE WE WENT INTO THE ENFORCEMENT OPTIONS AND GIVE THEM EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, UM, FALL WITHIN THE STANDARDS, WHICHEVER STANDARDS WE CHOOSE TO, TO GO FORWARD WITH. 
          THANK YOU, MARLIN. 
          UH, YEAH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, CHIEF, AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AS FAR AS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, UM, I'M LOOKING FOR LOCATION SPECIFIC RATHER THAN TOWN SPECIFIC. 
          UM, UM, I'M OBVIOUSLY LOOKING TO REDUCE CRIME, RIGHT? THAT'S A NO BRAINER. 
          UM, I'M ALSO LOOKING, UH, LIKE IN OUR HOTEL SITUATION, IF WE'VE GOT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA FIND, BUT IF WE'VE GOT AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF CALLS, LIKE WE HAVE FROM, FROM SOME PROPERTIES, UM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT FOR FIRST RESPONDER CALLS. 
          UM, AND, AND I'M IN, IF WE NEED TO SOMEHOW CALCULATE A NUMBER, IF WE WANT TO CALL IT APARTMENT CRIME INDEX, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL THAT TO HELP US MEASURE THAT, I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT. 
          AND, AND I'D LOVE TO, I'D, I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT YOU RECOMMEND ON THESE OPTIONS. 
          I, I HOPE YOU'LL COME BACK WITH IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE OF THE OPTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION, LIKE IF WE DID THAT MIRRORING WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH LODGING. 
          IT MAY NOT MAKE ANY SENSE. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, AND SO WITH THAT, IT'S, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LOCATION, CIVIC, SO MORE APARTMENT TO COMPARTMENT, APARTMENT TO APARTMENT COMPARISON, NOT APARTMENTS TO TOWN WIDE COMPARISON, MUCH LIKE MR. D FRANCISCA. 
          UM, NO, I, WHAT I MEANT IS IF THERE IS, IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, HOWEVER WE DEFINE A PROBLEM, RIGHT? CRIME, WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          UM, THAT'S WHAT I'M FOCUSED ON. 
          I'M NOT, I'M, I'M LESS FOCUSED ON THIS PART OF TOWN AND THAT PART OF TOWN, AND IT'S VERY, VERY, UH, PROPERTY, UH, LOCATION BASED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MORE THE, THE DALLAS MODEL OF LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY AND WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THAT PROPERTY, NOT AS IT COMPARED TO OTHER APARTMENT PROPERTIES OR TOWN WIDE? CORRECT. 
          OKAY, DEAR. 
          SO JUST AS A KIND OF, JUST TO REFRESH MY MEMORY ON THE DWELLING UNITS OF AN APARTMENT COM, THO THOSE NUMBERS COMPARE TO INDIVIDUAL HOUSE DWELLING UNITS, IT SEEMS LIKE, I RECALL THE ACTUAL CRIME NUMBERS ARE LOWER. 
          THEY ARE ON DWELLING UNITS, SO IT'S NOT GOOD TO COMPARE, IT'S NOT REALLY APPLE TO APPLES TO COMPARE IT TO TOWN WIDE. 
          SO IT WOULD BE IN, IN ALL LIGHT TYPE OF HOUSING, MEANING APARTMENTS TO APARTMENTS. 
          SO I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR IS IN THE, IN LIKE TYPE OF HOUSING, WHAT, YOU KNOW, HOW HIGH OR HOW LOW ARE WE? AND THE OBJECTIVES FOR ME ARE, UM, UH, LOWER CRIME, LOWER CRIME, AND THEN SAFETY FOR THE RESIDENTS. 
          AND THEN THAT LEADS TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE, THE PEOPLE. 
          AND, AND KIND OF THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF YOU'RE GONNA LIVE IN AN APARTMENT IN ADDISON, THEN YOU'RE GONNA BEHAVE RIGHT? AND, UH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          THE, UM, I THINK THINGS LIKE THE FINE FOR NON-COMPLIANCE AND CITATIONS, I THINK ALL OF THAT SHOULD BE IN PLACE. 
          SO THOSE, THOSE THINGS. 
          AND THEN ALL THE MINIMUMS. AND THEN LIKE WE'VE MENTIONED, UH, ALL OF MANY OF US HAVE MENTIONED, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PROPOSAL FROM YOU, FROM WHAT, WHAT YOU THINK AND JUST SOME WHAT YOU SUGGEST AS, AS THE, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONAL ON YOUR COMMAND, FOLKS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHIEF, DID WE GIVE YOU ANY DIRECTION AT ALL? THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          I THINK I HAVE A GOOD STARTING POINT TO GO AND WE'LL WORK THIS OVER AND BRING IT BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY ON THIS? NO MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING. 
          YES, SIR. 
          Y'ALL ARE DOING FOR US, SIR. 
          THANK, YES SIR. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WITH THAT, UH, SINCE WE'RE RESCHEDULING OUR 
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OTHER THREE WORK SESSION ITEMS, IT IS 6 48. 
          WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A RECESS FOR, UH, 12 MINUTES AND THEN WE WILL, UH, GATHER BACK UP AT SEVEN O'CLOCK FOR OUR REGULAR MEETING. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY. 
          THANK. 
          [ COUNCIL MEETING The Addison City Council will convene for a Council Meeting beginning at 7:00 PM in the Town Hall Council Chambers.]
OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          IT IS 7 0 2 AND WE WILL RECONVENE THE COUNCIL INTO OUR REGULAR MEETING AFTER OUR, UH, LENGTHY, UH, WORK SESSION AND CLOSED SESSION ITEMS. UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 
          AND AS ALWAYS, WE'D LIKE TO START OUR MEETINGS WITH THE PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS. 
          IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE AS YOU'RE ABLE A P TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. 
          FOR HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN BE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND WE DO STILL HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT THIS EVENING WITH SIX MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE, UH, IN THE CHAMBERS. 
          AND WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER LUCIO WILL BE JOINING US ONLINE MOMENTARILY. 
          WE'LL 
          [2. Proclamations / Presentations]
GO RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS TWO, A CITY MANAGER'S ANNOUNCEMENTS AND TWO B EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION. 
          DAVID GAINES. 
          THANKS MAYOR. 
          A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          PLEASE JOIN US IN CELEBRATING FIRE CHIEF DAVID JONES, REMARKABLE CAREER AT A RETIREMENT CEREMONY ON THURSDAY, THIS THURSDAY, MARCH 26TH FROM 10:30 AM TO 1230 AT GALAXY FEO THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL PARKING AVAILABLE AT TOWN HALL. 
          NEXT WE HAVE SOME EASTER ANNOUNCEMENTS, AND MARY ALWAYS LIKES TO MAKE THESE FUN. 
          SO HOP ON OVER TO LAY LOCKS PARK FOR THE ANNUAL EASTER EXTRAVAGANZA ON SATURDAY, MARCH 28TH FROM NINE 30 TO 11, GRAB THE KIDS IN A BASKET AND TAKE PART IN THE SPRING TRADITION. 
          COMPETE WITH AN EGG, WITH AN EGG HUNT THAT STARTS AT 10 AND PHOTOS WITH THE EASTER BUNNY. 
          AND I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY NINE AND 10-YEAR-OLD BOYS THAT ARE OVERLY AGGRESSIVE DURING THE EGG HUNT. 
           AND ADDISON PHOTOS WITH THE EASTER BUNNY AREN'T JUST FOR KIDS. 
          BRING YOUR FOUR-LEGGED BEST FRIEND TO ADDISON CIRCLE PARK ON SATURDAY, MARCH 28TH FROM NOON TO ONE 30 FOR THEIR TIME TO SHINE. 
          SPOTS ARE LIMITED, SO BE SURE TO REGISTER IN ADVANCE AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB FRONT DESK. 
          AND FINALLY, TAKE YOUR WORKDAY OUTSIDE ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 1ST BY JOINING US IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK FOR COWORKING IN THE PARK. 
          THIS FREE EVENT RUNS FROM 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM THAT'S IT FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          I WILL ASK JAMIE TO COME UP FOR OUR STAFF INTRODUCTION, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I AM PLEASED TO INTRODUCE BILL DYER, WHO SERVES AS THE ASSISTANT AIRPORT DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE AT THE ADDISON AIRPORT. 
          BORN IN DENVER, COLORADO. 
          BILL MOVED WITH HIS FAMILY TO DALLAS, TEXAS IN 1963 BACK WHEN MUCH OF THE AREA AS WE KNOW TODAY, LIKE THE NORTH OR THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY AND THE LBJ FREEWAY HAD YET TO BE DEVELOPED. 
          HE GRADUATED FROM HILLCREST HIGH SCHOOL IN 1974 BEFORE ATTENDING THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, WHERE HE EARNED A BACHELOR OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION IN FINANCE AND REAL ESTATE IN 1979. 
          BILL HAS BEEN MARRIED TO HIS WIFE, MARY FOR OVER 43 YEARS. 
          TOGETHER THEY HAVE TWO ACCOMPLISHED DAUGHTERS, MEGAN AND EMILY, BOTH GRADUATES OF TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY HERE IN ADDISON. 
          MEGAN, WHO IS 40 NOW EARNED HER DEGREES FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AND SMU LAW SCHOOL AND IS NOW A LITIGATION ATTORNEY IN THE PHARMACEUTICAL FIELD. 
          SHE HAS ALSO BLESSED A FAMILY WITH TWO GRANDCHILDREN, EMILY, A GRADUATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA, AND RECENTLY MARRIED, WORKS AS A GLOBAL MARKETING MANAGER IN THE CYBERSECURITY AND TECHNOLOGY SECTORS WHEN IT COMES TO SPORTS. 
          BILL IS A LOYAL FAN OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS LONGHORNS AND THE DALLAS COWBOYS. 
          REMAINING HOPEFUL FOR A STRONG SEASON AHEAD OF UT FOOTBALL. 
          BILL'S CONNECTION TO ADDISON RUNS DEEP. 
          HE BEGAN HIS CAREER AT ADDISON AIRPORT IN 2002 AS A REAL ESTATE MANAGER WITH STAUBACH AIRPORT MANAGEMENT, INC. 
          SAMMY, WHICH PARTNERED WITH THE TOWN AT THE TIME. 
          OVER THE YEARS, HE PLAYED A KEY ROLE THROUGH ORGANIZATIONAL TRANSITIONS, INCLUDING THE MERGER WITH JONES LANG LASALLE, UM, EVENTUALLY ACQUIRING SAMMY AND CONTINUING HIS WORK AS A CONTRACTOR. 
          IN 2020 WHEN THE TOWN BROUGHT AIRPORT MANAGEMENT IN-HOUSE, HE OFFICIALLY BECAME A TOWN EMPLOYEE AND NOW 
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SERVES AS THE ASSISTANT AIRPORT DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE. 
          SOMETHING YOU MIGHT FIND INTERESTING IS BILL HAS BEEN SAILING COMPETITIVELY SINCE AGE EIGHT, INCLUDING COMPETING ON THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS SAILING TEAM AT A AND AT NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL LEVELS. 
          HE AND HIS WIFE HOPE TO ATTEND THE 38TH AMERICA'S CUP IN NAPLES, ITALY IN 2027. 
          ONE OF HIS GREATEST PROFESSIONAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS IS BEING DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN A SIGNIFICANT GROWTH AND REDEVELOPMENT OF ADDISON AIRPORT. 
          OVER THE PAST 24 YEARS, HE HAS WITNESSED AND CONTRIBUTED TO ITS TRANSFORMATION FROM A LOCAL BUSINESS AIRPORT INTO A NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED ASSET SERVING NORTH TEXAS AND THE ADDISON COMMUNITY. 
          WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE ADDISON WAY, BILL SHARED THE WORDS ETHICALLY INTEGRITY, ETHICAL INTEGRITY, COMPETENCY, RESPECT, AND DIGNITY. 
          PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING BILL AND HIS CONTINUED CONTRIBUTIONS TO ADDISON. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU JAMIE. 
          THANK YOU BILL FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE FOR ADDISON AIRPORT OVER THE YEARS AND FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON. 
          WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, 
          [3. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.]
VERY GOOD. 
          WE'LL MOVE INTO ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA. 
          COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS. 
          CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS REQUIRED BY LAW. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. 
          AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. 
          I'VE GOT A FEW, UH, COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS AND SO WE'LL CALL THOSE IN ORDER HERE AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THEM. 
          I'VE GOT SEVERAL, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THEM THE, THE NEXT SPEAKER UP AND THEN THE SECOND PERSON SO YOU CAN QUEUE UP BEHIND THEM, UH, FOR THE SAKE OF SAVING TIME. 
          AND AS ALWAYS, WHEN YOU COME UP, UH, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. 
          AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES. 
          YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE ALL OF THAT THREE MINUTES AS ALWAYS. 
          AND JUST KEEP AN EYE ON THE CLOCK OVER ON THE WALL HERE. 
          FIRST UP, WE HAVE DANIEL SMITH, WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY JACK GARRETTS. 
          HELLO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          UH, I JUST WANT TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THE METRICS AND THE DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR TRANSIT AND I GUESS ANY OF THE INITIATIVES IN GENERAL AROUND ADDISON. 
          I'VE TALKED TO A FEW OF YOU, UH, TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE OUT HERE, AND I'M REALLY STRUGGLING TO GET ACCURATE INFORMATION OR EVEN EVEN DATA ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF STUFF. 
          UH, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, WE TALKED ABOUT TASTE OF ADDISON, THE BIG NUMBER THAT THEY THREW OUT WAS THAT IT LOST $700,000. 
          IT DIDN'T REALLY LOSE $700,000. 
          I THINK WHAT I THINK THE DIFFERENCE WAS WAS THE TICKET SALES VERSUS WHAT WE SPENT. 
          I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBERS OR HOW THAT WAS CALCULATED, BUT WHAT I DON'T THINK IT CONSIDERED WAS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, THE BROADER ECONOMIC IMPACT, THE JOB CREATION, THE SALES TAX CREATION, THE AMOUNT OF INCOME THAT ALL THE RESTAURANTS AROUND HERE PULL IN, UH, BECAUSE OF THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS, I WORRY THAT WE'RE DOING THE SAME TYPE OF FALLACY FOR THINGS LIKE DART AND THE NEW, UH, TRANSPORT INITIATIVE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. 
          I WANT US, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A COMMUNICATION, AN INITIATIVE, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES OF FOCUSING ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, THE POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THESE, UH, EFFORTS. 
          IF WE SOMEHOW MANAGE TO KEEP DART AND HAVE THIS OTHER TRANSPORT, I WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE MEASURED COLLECTIVELY ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE GETTING BROUGHT IN, WHO THEY'RE BRINGING IN, HOW MUCH THEY'RE SPENDING, WHAT TYPES OF JOBS ARE BEING CREATED, HOW MUCH SALES TAX IS BEING CREATED, AND HOW MUCH REVENUE ARE WE REALLY GETTING? BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF THESE ARE NET POSITIVE FOR US. 
          I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS. 
          I CAN'T TELL YOU BECAUSE I CAN'T FIND IT. 
          AND MAYBE IT DOES EXIST. 
          PLEASE COME AND TALK TO ME IF IT DOES. 
          I JUST, I SIMPLY CANNOT FIND THESE NUMBERS ANYWHERE. 
          UH, ANOTHER METRIC THAT WE FOCUS ON, I THINK SOMEWHAT ERRONEOUSLY ARE COST MEASURES, LIKE COST ALLOCATION MEASURES THAT WE LOOKED AT WITH DART. 
          THEY LOOK AT RIDER MILES. 
          ADDISON IS A, IS NOT A POINT TO POINT TYPE OF DART TRANSPORT CITY. 
          PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN ADDISON USUALLY DON'T TAKE DART TO OTHER PLACES. 
          PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF ADDISON TAKE DART IN, SPEND THEIR MONEY, WORK THEIR JOBS, AND THEN THEY LEAVE. 
          THERE'S NOT AS MANY RIDER MILES AS PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING IN AND OUT AND AROUND IN THE SAME CITY. 
          SO THAT CAN 
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SKEW THE COST BASIS THAT'S GETTING ALLOCATED TO ADDISON VERSUS WHAT WE'RE SPENDING, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS WHAT THE AMOUNT OF, WHAT, WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT IT'S GENERATING FOR OUR CITY RELATIVE TO WHAT WE'RE PAYING. 
          SAME WITH VIA, SAME WITH WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. 
          THAT SHOULD BE OUR NORTH STAR. 
          WHAT IS THE ROI, THE SOCIAL ECONOMIC ROI OF THESE INITIATIVES? THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE ON ANYTHING. 
          DART TRANSPORT, WHATEVER. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, DANIEL. 
          BEFORE YOU STEP AWAY, WOULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? OH, I, I APOLOGIZE. 
          DANIEL SMITH. 
          UH, 50 18 PARKVIEW. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND NOW WE HAVE JACK GARRETTS FOLLOWED BY SCHNELL BLANTON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          JACK GARRETTS 1 7 1 1 8 KNOTTS LANDING IN ADDISON. 
          MY STATEMENT HERE IS, IS SOMETHING THAT'S YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE, BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UH, MISINFORMATION AND NOT ENOUGH OF THE REAL FACTS AND I'M HOPING THAT WE GET SOME OF THAT THIS EVENING. 
          ADDISON IS A DIFFERENT CITY. 
          WE CANNOT BE COMPARED TO ANY OF THOSE THAT SURROUND US. 
          WE'RE AT 4.4 SQUARE MILES IN AREA WITH 1.2 ROUGHLY TAKEN UP BY THE AIRPORT. 
          HOW DOES THAT EQUATE TO THE KINDS OF SERVICE THAT DART IS OFFERING FOR THIS TOWN AND THE COST INVOLVING IN PROVIDING THAT SERVICE? I THINK WE, THAT'S BEEN LOOKED AT AND I THINK THERE'S A, A REAL REASON TO RECONSIDER IT AND GO WITH A LESS COST PROVIDER THAT WILL GAIN BETTER TRACTION FOR THE TOWN AND CAUSE US TO NOT INCREASE PROPERTY TAXES. 
          'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED IF WE STAY WITH DART. 
          UH, AND THAT'S REALLY ABOUT ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. 
          I AS LIKE YOU, YOU CAN, YOU CAN TELL I'M FOR, UH, AGAINST OUR THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU JACK. 
          UH, NEXT UP WE HAVE CHANEL BLANTON, FOLLOWED BY MARY REED. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          MY NAME IS CHANEL BLANTON AND I AM AN ADDISON RESIDENT. 
          1 7 0 7 2 KNOT LANDING ZACH'S NEIGHBOR. 
          AND HE'S RIGHT, ADDISON IS NOT THE SAME TEMP. 
          SO TONIGHT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER A CONTRACT THAT TRADES OUR FUTURE FOR A TEMPORARY CONVENIENCE. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING A REGIONAL POWERHOUSE WITH A LOCAL VAN SERVICE. 
          SO FIRST, LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT SILVER LINE. 
          FOR DECADES, THE TAXPAYERS HAVE FUNDED THE, THE DREAM OF THE RAIL. 
          THAT DREAM BECAME A REALITY JUST FIVE MONTHS AGO WHEN ALL OF YOU SAID YES TO IT. 
          TO WITHDRAW FROM DART NOW IS TO HAND OVER OUR KEYS TO A BRAND NEW REGIONAL ENGINE AND CHOOSE TO WALK. 
          INSTEAD, I'VE BEEN WALKING FOR THE LAST FOUR WEEKS, SHAW AND I DON'T WANNA WALK . 
          SO WE WOULD BE EFFECTIVELY CLOSING OUR GATES TO THE REST OF THE METROPLEX, MAKING IT HARDER FOR WORKERS TO REACH OUR, OUR BUSINESSES AND HARDER FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO REACH THE FW AIRPORT. 
          SECOND, WE NEED TO BE HONEST ABOUT THE MATH. 
          MICRO TRANSIT SOUNDS CHEAPER ON A BALANCE SHEET, BUT IT'S WIDELY INEFFICIENT ON A PEER, ON A PER RIDING, UH, BASIS. 
          UH, THE THE VAN IS NORMALLY 50% HIGHER THAN A DART BUS. 
          WHILE WOULD WE PAY MORE TO MOVE FEWER PEOPLE. 
          SO FURTHERMORE, WE ARE STILL LEGALLY TIED TO DART'S DEBT FOR NEARLY THREE MORE YEARS. 
          SIGNING A CONTRACT WITH A PRIVATE PROVIDER MEANS OUR TOWN IS HAVING TO PAY TWICE FOR THE SIMILARS FOR THE SAME SERVICE OR FOR HALF OF THE SERVICE. 
          SO THIRD, THINK OF OUR RIDERS. 
          FOR A SENIOR GOING TO A DOCTOR OR A STUDENT HEADING TO UTD MICRO TRANSIT IS NOT THE SOLUTION. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY A BARRIER. 
          IT FORCES THEM TO WAIT ON THE STREET CORNER FOR A VAN ONLY TO BE DROPPED AT A BORDER TO WAIT AGAIN FOR A DART BUS THAT THEY USED TO BE ABLE TO CATCH JUST RIGHT HERE. 
          SO COUNCIL MEMBER D FRANCISCO WAS RIGHT. 
          THIS IS CUMBERSOME. 
          IT TURNS OUR RESIDENTS INTO SECOND CLASS COMMUTERS. 
          WE ARE TOLD THAT DART LEAVING DART GIVES US LOCAL CONTROL, BUT CONTROL OF A SHRINKING SYSTEM IS NOT PROGRESS. 
          LET'S NOT TURN ADDISON INTO A TRANSIT ISLAND. 
          LET'S HOLD DART ACCOUNTABLE FOR BETTER SERVICE. 
          YES, BUT LET'S NOT THROW AWAY THE $400 MILLION THAT WE PUT IN THERE ALREADY FOR JUST A SIMPLE VAN IN THE APP. 
          SO I URGE THE COUNCIL TO DO TWO THINGS. 
          CALL THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES, ASK THEM WHY THEY DITCHED A SERVICE JUST LIKE THIS ONE. 
          ASK THEM ABOUT THE COST, THE THREE MINUTE WAIT. 
          TURNING INTO A 45 MINUTE WAIT. 
          IF I WERE Y'ALL, PLEASE DO NOT SIGN THIS AGREEMENT TO THE VOTERS THAT ARE LISTENING. 
          LET'S KEEP ADDISON CONNECTED. 
          LET'S SAY YES TO DART ON ELECTION DAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SCHNELL. 
          NEXT WE HAVE MARY REED, FOLLOWED BY CHUCK GREEN. 
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GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS MARY REED. 
          I LIVE AT 3 7 7 8 VITRUVIAN WAY. 
          I KNOW THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DECISION FACING ADDISON VOTERS. 
          I HOPE THAT THEIRS WILL BE AN INFORMED, WELL RESEARCH DECISION BASED ON RATIONAL CRITERIA AND NOT STEEPED IN EMOTION OR PERSONAL PREFERENCE. 
          I HOPE THAT VOTERS REALIZE IN ORDER TO BE EDUCATED ABOUT THIS DECISION, THEY SHOULD DISCUSS IT WITH EXPERTS. 
          THOSE WITH A LONG HISTORY OF REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION. 
          I DON'T MEAN THOSE WHO WOULD BENEFIT FINANCIALLY. 
          IF YOU CHOOSE DART OR ANOTHER FORM OF TRANSPORTATION, I MEAN ACTUAL USERS OF THE SERVICE. 
          I HOPE VOTERS HAVE ACTUALLY TALKED TO MULTIPLE DART WRITERS. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL IS A REGULAR DART WRITER AND THE MAJORITY OF ADDISON RESIDENTS PROBABLY AREN'T REGULAR DART WRITERS EITHER. 
          PHYLLIS, MANY OF YOU KNOW PHYLLIS, I CAN'T REMEMBER HER LAST NAME, IS THE ONLY PERSON IN ADDISON I KNOW WHO REGULARLY RIDES DART. 
          I HOPE MANY VOTERS USE DART AT LEAST OCCASIONALLY. 
          I TAKE THE TRAIN EVERY TIME I GO TO THE AIRPORT, THE STATE FAIR OF TEXAS OR THE AMERICAN AIRLINES ARENA. 
          FOR YEARS, I DROVE 20 MINUTES TO THE NORTH LAKE COLLEGE DART STATION IN IRVING AND TOOK THE TRAIN TWO STOPS TO THE DFW AIRPORT. 
          RECENTLY I DROVE 10 MINUTES TO THE ADDISON DART STATION AND TOOK THE SILVER LINE TO THE AIRPORT FOR THE FIRST TIME. 
          VERY BLISSFULLY. 
          I HOPE VOTERS REALIZE THERE IS MUCH KNOWLEDGE TO BE GLEANED FROM THE PEOPLE WHO RIDE DART ON A REGULAR BASIS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, THOSE WHO ARE NOT ADDISON RESIDENTS, BUT EMPLOYEES OF ADDISON BUSINESSES. 
          I'M SURE ANY ADDISON RESTAURANT OR HOTEL OWNER COULD GIVE YOU THE NAMES OF EMPLOYEES WHO REGULARLY COMMUTE VIA DART. 
          THEIR OPINIONS ARE VERY VALUABLE. 
          THEY DEPEND ON THAT RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION FOR THEIR LIVELIHOODS AND NOT A PRIVATE PATCHWORK SYSTEM THAT WOULD INEVITABLY BE MORE CUMBERSOME AND LESS RELIABLE. 
          I HOPE VOTERS HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF A 43 YEAR, $400 MILLION INVESTMENT. 
          I HOPE VOTERS UNDERSTAND THIS ISSUE IS NOT JUST ABOUT MONEY, IT IS ABOUT PROVIDING A VALUABLE SERVICE FOR EMPLOYEES OF ADDISON BUSINESSES. 
          NOT TO MENTION THOSE OF YOU WHO EMPLOY MAIDS AND HOUSEKEEPERS WHO DO NOT LIVE IN ADDISON AND COME FROM FAR AWAY DALLAS RESIDENCES. 
          I HOPE VOTERS CONSIDER THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO ADDISON. 
          WHEN THOUSANDS OF KABOOM TOWN OCTOBER FEST PARTICIPANTS ARRIVE IN TOWN VIA DART. 
          IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL PILLAR OF THE ADDISON ECONOMY. 
          I HOPE VOTERS ARE NOT MOTIVATED BY A DESIRE TO ERASE THOSE LESS FORTUNATE FROM YOUR PERSONAL ENVIRONMENT. 
          BECAUSE RACISM OR ECONOMIC CLASS IS NEVER A RATIONAL REASON TO MAKE A CHOICE. 
          I HOPE VOTERS MAKE THE CORRECT CHOICE TO SAVE DART. 
          THANK YOU MARY. 
          NEXT WE HAVE CHUCK GREEN, FOLLOWED BY FRAN POWELL. 
          YES, MY NAME IS CHUCK GREEN. 
          I LIVE AT 1 4 9 7 4 TO FOGGER COURT, UH, IN ADDISON. 
          UH, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          WHILE WE KNOW THE PILOT PROGRAM WILL COST APPROXIMATELY $935,000, WHAT WILL THE FUTURE COST BE? THE SELF-FUNDED STREETS FUND IS SET ASIDE FOR SIGNIFICANT ONE-TIME PROJECTS PER THE FY 26 BUDGET. 
          BUT TRANSPORTATION IS NOT A ONE-TIME PROJECT. 
          HOW WILL WE SUSTAIN THIS SERVICE WHILE PAYING OFF THE DARK DEBT AND BALANCING OTHER NEEDS? 935,000 PER SIX MONTHS. 
          BUT WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT YEAR AND THE NEXT YEAR AND THE NEXT YEAR? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, CHUCK. 
          NEXT WE HAVE FRAN POWELL, FOLLOWED BY TOM BROWN, FRAN POWELL, 1 4, 7, 9 6 LOCK INVAR COURT. 
          I'M A SENIOR CITIZEN. 
          CURRENTLY I CAN BUY A THREE HOUR PASS FOR A DOLLAR 50 ON DART AND GO ALL OVER DALLAS, THE STATE FAIR DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON PLANO. 
          I CAN RIDE THE TRAIN TO THE AIRPORT FOR A DOLLAR 50. 
          I'VE WATCHED THE PRESENTATIONS OF THE TWO COMPANIES THAT HOPE TO PROVIDE RIGHT, INDEPENDENT RIGHT SERVICES. 
          I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY MENTION OF SENIOR CITIZEN RATES ON THOSE, UH, ON THOSE PRESENTATIONS. 
          WHAT ARE THE FAIRS GOING TO BE? WHO SETS THEM? I DIDN'T HEAR ANY WORDS OF THAT ON THE PRESENTATIONS EITHER. 
          IF ADDISON IS BEING BILLED FOR ALL SERVICES AND COSTS, WHO KEEPS THE REVENUE FROM THE RIDES? IF ADDISON, WHAT IS THE NET COST TO ADDISON ON TOP OF THE $900,000? IS THERE SOME INCOME COMING FROM THAT? IF 
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I TAKE A RIDE OUT OF ADDISON, DO I PAY TWICE ONCE FOR THE ADDISON RIDES AND THEN DART? IF WE HAVE TO TAKE A RIDE OUT OF TIME AND WE GO TO THESE RALLY POINTS, ARE THESE CARS JUST GONNA STOP AT THE BUS STATIONS OR THE BUS STOPS AND LET PASSENGERS OUT BLOCKING TRAFFIC? IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN A BUS DOES IT 'CAUSE THE BUS IS BIG. 
          YOU CAN SEE IT AND PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA STOP AT THOSE BUS STATIONS, BUS STOPS. 
          BUT IF A REGULAR CAR STOPS, I'M NOT QUITE SURE ANYTHING BUT BLOCKING TRAFFIC. 
          UM, HOW WILL ADDISON PAY FOR THIS PRIVATE TRANSIT WHILE THEY'RE STILL PAYING THE DEBT TO DART DART'S? DEBT IS PAID BY THE 1% SALES TAX. 
          IF WE LOSE THE ALL THOSE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE TOWN TO EAT AT THE RESTAURANTS ON OUR PERFORMANCES, EVERYTHING, WE'RE GONNA SEE THE SALES TAX GO DOWN, WHICH MEANS THERE WILL BE A LONGER TIME TO BE PAYING OUT DART. 
          I ALSO, UM, HEARD ON THE PRESENTATIONS THAT THE VEHICLES THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE USING IS LIKE SIX MAX AND TWO FOR PARASITES. 
          UH, UM, PARATRANSIT, UM, HOW ON EARTH ARE SIX TO EIGHT VEHICLES GOING TO SERVICE ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN ADDISON COMING IN TO ADDISON? THEY TAKE THE BUS TO THE RALLY POINT. 
          THEY HAVE TO THEN TAKE A CAR WHERE THEY WANT TO GO. 
          I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW SIX VEHICLES ARE GONNA KEEP UP WITH THAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU FRAN. 
          NEXT WE HAVE TOM BROWN, FOLLOWED BY DAVE COLLINS, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, TOM BROWN, 1 4 6 1 6 LEXUS AVENUE. 
          I WANNA RAISE A CONCERN, UH, REGARDING THE UPCOMING MAY 2ND ELECTION AND WHAT, UH, VOTING ON WHETHER ADDISON WOULD REMAIN IN DALLAS RAPID TRANSIT OR MOVE TO ITS ALTERNATIVE SYSTEM BASED ON THE TOWN'S REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL LANGUAGE. 
          THE SELECTED TRANSIT VENDOR IS REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT A COMPREHENSIVE MARKETING OUTREACH AND PUBLIC RELATIONS CAMPAIGN COORDINATED WITH THE TOWN STAFF. 
          THIS CAMPAIGN CAMPAIGN IS REQUIRED TO BEGIN NO LATER THAN THE THIRD WEEK OF APRIL, WHICH IT DIRECTLY OVERLAPS WITH THE START OF THE EARLY VOTING ON APRIL 20TH. 
          THAT TIMING DOES MATTER UNDER TEXAS ELECTION CODE 2 55 0.003. 
          THE TOWN CANNOT USE OR AUTHORIZE THE USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS FOR COMMUNICATION THAT ARE REASONABLY LIKELY TO INFLUENCE VOTERS IN AN ELECTION. 
          THE CONCERN HERE IS NOT WHETHER THE TOWN CAN EDUCATE THE PUBLIC. 
          IT ABSOLUTELY CAN. 
          THE CONCERN IS WHETHER THE TAXPAYER FUNDED MARKETING CAMPAIGN PROMOTING AN ALTERNATIVE SYSTEM LAUNCHED DURING EARLY VOTING ON THE EX, UM, ON THAT EXACT ISSUE. 
          DOES THAT CROSS THE LINE FROM INFORMATION TO INFLUENCE EVEN IF THE COMMUNI COMMUNICATIONS AVOID EXPLICIT PHRASES LIKE VOTE? YES. 
          THE LAW AND GUIDANCE FROM THE TEXAS ETHICS COMMISSION MAKE IT CLEAR THAT ONE SIDED OR PROMOTIONAL MESSAGING CAN STILL VIOLATE THE STATUTE AND WILL LIKELY AFFECT HOW PEOPLE VOTE. 
          AND IMPORTANTLY, USING A CONTRACTOR TO CARRY OUT THE THAT CAMPAIGN DOES NOT AVOID THE LAW IF THE TOWN IS FUNDING IT AND DIRECTING THE MESSAGING AT A MINIMUM, THIS CREATES A SIGNIFICANT LEGAL RISK TO THE TOWN, THE TOWN AND WOULD UNDERMINE PUBLIC CONFIDENCE AND FAIRNESS IN THE ELECTION PROCESS. 
          SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE TOWN DELAY ANY MARKETING OR PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITIES UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION. 
          THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION, IT'S ABOUT ENSURING THAT THE PROCESS IS FAIR, LAWFUL AND TRUSTED BY THE COMMUNITY. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU, TOM. 
          NEXT WE HAVE DAVE COLLINS, FOLLOWED BY BETH HENDERSON. 
          THANK YOU BRUCE. 
          UH, DAVE COLLINS 1 4 6 6 8 WAYSIDE COURT. 
          UM, BOTH THE PRO DARK GROUP AND THE REPLACED. 
          OUR GROUP WANT ADDISON TO HAVE A TRANSIT SYSTEM. 
          HOWEVER, THE PRO DRUG GROUP WANTS TO REMAIN IN THE 20TH CENTURY. 
          THE REPLACED ART GROUP IS LOOKING TO LEVERAGE 21ST CENTURY TECHNOLOGY TO DELIVER MOBILITY PRODUCT THAT IS MORE EFFICIENT AND FLEXIBLE AT A 10TH OF THE COST OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM. 
          I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MISINFORMATION THAT I'M HEARING RELATIVE TO A TRANSITION TO A DIFFERENT SYSTEM. 
          I'M GONNA STEP THROUGH THESE QUICKLY, BUT, UH, I THINK THEY'RE IMPORTANT. 
          MYTH ONE PARATRANSIT IS AT RISK. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT DAR THAT VIA WILL PROVIDE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE PARATRANSIT SERVICES CURRENTLY 
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PROVIDED BY DART AT THE SAME COST. 
          IN FACT, THEY'RE AGREEING TO AN ARRIVAL TIME STANDARD OF 12 MINUTES VERSUS DART'S 20 MINUTES. 
          MYTH TWO PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE ADDISON WON'T BE ABLE TO USE A BUS SERVICE TO GET TO ADDISON VIA WILL BE PRESENTING THEIR PIECE TONIGHT. 
          BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY WILL MEET EVERY DART BUS PASSENGER COMING TO ADDISON AT RALLY POINTS AND TAKE THEM DIRECTLY TO THEIR DESTINATION. 
          THE RALLY POINTS CONNECT WITH EVERY BUS LINE COMING TO ADDISON. 
          MID THREE PEOPLE WITHOUT A SMARTPHONE WON'T BE ABLE TO USE THE VIA SYSTEM VIA HAS LIVE OPERATORS AND THEY'VE ASSURED US THAT THEY WILL SCHEDULE PICKUPS AND DROP OFFS SIMILAR TO A PHONE APP. 
          MYTH FOUR VIA WILL NOT CONNECT WITH THE DART SYSTEM. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE VIA APP WILL INTERFACE SEAMLESSLY WITH DART GO PASS VIA WILL TRACK DART BUSES AND WILL DISPATCH VEHICLES TO RALLY POINTS TO MINIMIZE PASSENGER WAIT TIME. 
          MYTH FIVE, ADDISON WILL LOSE ACCESS TO THE SILVER LINE VIA WILL DELIVER OR PICK UP ADDISON PASSENGERS AT NOLL TRAIL STATION FOR EAST ADDISON RESIDENCE, OF WHICH SOME OF YOU ARE THE AND VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY VISITORS NOLL TRAIL IS ACTUALLY CLOSER THAN THE ADDISON TRAIN STATION. 
          ALSO, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDED ROUGHLY HALF OF THE SILVER LINE. 
          THERE IS A DISTINCT POSSIBILITY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL NOT ALLOW DART TO CLOSE THE SILVER LINE STATION. 
          MS SIX, THE VIA SYSTEM WILL COST RIDERS MORE, I BELIEVE VIA IN THE TOWN HAVE AGREED TO MATCH DART'S RATES. 
          INITIALLY, THE TOWN HAS COMPLETE CONTROL OVER RATES AND COULD ACTUALLY REDUCE THESE GOING FORWARD. 
          MS SEVEN VIA WON'T BE ABLE TO MEET THE MAY 2ND START DATE. 
          VIA IS A HUGE COMPANY AND HAS TAKEN ON MUCH LARGER MUNICIPALITIES, INCLUDING ARLINGTON. 
          MYTH EIGHT. 
          ADDISON HAS GIVEN DART $40 MILLION IN THE LAST 43 YEARS. 
          WELL, THIS ONE IS TRUE, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SURE WHY ANYONE WOULD HIGHLIGHT THIS AS MY FATHER USED TO SAY. 
          WHEN YOU'RE IN A HOLE, STOP DIGGING. 
          DART IS THE PAST ON DEMAND MOBILITY IS THE FUTURE. 
          BOTH THE PRO DART AND ADDISON DESERVES BETTER GROUP WANT A TRANSIT SYSTEM FOR ADDISON. 
          IT IS JUST THAT THE ADDISON DESERVES BETTER MODELS, MORE CONVENIENT, MORE FLEXIBLE, MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE AND POSITIONS ADDISON AS A DFW TRANSLATOR. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU DAVE. 
          NEXT WE HAVE BETH HENDERSON, FOLLOWED BY TYLER WRIGHT. 
          HI, I'M BETH HENDERSON. 
          I LIVE AT 37 80 WATERSIDE COURT IN, UH, IN ADDISON. 
          OKAY, UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE, UM, SERVICE TO HELP PARATRANSIT. 
          UM, THE TWO SERVICES SERVICES I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE GONNA CO CONSIDERING CONTRACTING WITH ARE CIRCUIT AND VIA. 
          SO THESE QUESTIONS ARE ABOUT THAT AT THE WORK SESSION CIRCUIT, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT PARATRANSIT WAIT TIMES MAY BE HIGHER UNDER THEIR SERVICE THAN WITH DART VIA DID NOT GUAR GUARANTEE HIGHER PERFORMANCE THAN DART'S EXISTING PARATRANSIT AND ALL RIDER WILL SHARE THE SAME FLEET. 
          IF AN ELIGIBLE PARATRANSIT RIDER NEEDS TO GO TO THE VA HOSPITAL, FOR INSTANCE, HOW WILL THEIR RIDE REQUEST BE PRIORITIZED AGAINST ALL THE OTHERS IN TOWN? WON'T THE VIA VAN HAVE TO DEADHEAD ALL THE WAY BACK TO ADDISON TO CONTINUE SERVING OTHER REQUESTS? THE OTHER QUESTION IS, WILL THE TOWN FORCE EXISTING DART PARATRANSIT RIDERS TO RECERTIFY AND POTENTIALLY LOSE ACCESS? THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU BETH. 
          NEXT WE HAVE TYLER WRIGHT. 
          MR. MAYOR, JUST A POINT OF ORDER. 
          SHE'S ASKED QUESTIONS ON, ON A AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT. 
          CAN WE NOT ANSWER HER QUESTIONS WITH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE DISCUSSION DURING THIS. 
          THIS IS A TIME FOR THEM TO, TO ADDRESS THE COUNSEL. 
          CAN I GET A LEGAL OPINION FROM OUR ATTORNEY IF THAT'S LEGAL OR NOT? THAT IS, THAT IS OUR PROCESS. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE DO. 
          WE DON'T HAVE DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS IN THE PROCESS. 
          TYLER WRIGHT, FOLLOWED BY RON WHITEHEAD. 
          ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. 
          UH, MY NAME'S TYLER WRIGHT, LIVING AT 15 7 2 5 ARTIST WAY. 
          UH, TONIGHT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN SHARING WITH MY NEIGHBORS KIND OF A COMPARISON TABLE OF OF, OF VIA ARLINGTON VERSUS DART. 
          UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WANNA HIGHLIGHT IS THAT DART IN ADDISON'S TOTAL BUS RIDERSHIP IS ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN VIA HISS ENTIRE ARLINGTON SYSTEM, RIGHT? AND I KNOW I TALKED WITH, UH, THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS OVER EMAIL ABOUT HOW WELL IN A, IN A DOUBTLESS WORLD, A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE WOULD JUST PASS THROUGH ANYWAYS, RIGHT? AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY WOULD, RIGHT? BUT I THINK WE'RE MISSING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE JUNCTION AS THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE PUT OUT SIGNS AND POSTERS ON THE ROADWAY FOR PEOPLE COMING BY TO SAY, HEY, COME IN, CHECK OUT OUR STUFF. 
          WE'LL PUT THOSE LITTLE NEWLY GUYS TO KIND OF ROLL AROUND. 
          MAYBE A GIANT GORILLA, UH, WHAT 
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HAVE YOU. 
          WE ADVERTISE AT CAR SIDE ALL THE TIME, AND WE, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WOULD SAY, MAYBE IT HELPS. 
          IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T HURT IN MOST CASES, BUT WE'RE GONNA UNDERVALUE THE 769,000 A YEAR THAT COME THROUGH ADDISON ON DART WHEN ADDISON JUNCTION IS HERE. 
          IF WE LEAVE DART, THEY AIN'T COMING THROUGH THAT JUNCTION. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU AS A RIDER MYSELF, I TEND TO PATRONIZE THE BUSINESSES CLOSEST TO THE STATIONS THAT I VISIT. 
          UM, THE CHICK-FIL-A IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS AT ACKER STATION GETS A LOT OF MY MONEY. 
          UM, WHITE RHINO USED TO, BUT THEY'VE HAD SOME PROBLEMS. UM, AND, UH, THE BUSINESSES I CAN WALK TO HERE IN ADDISON CIRCLE GET MOST OF MY MONEY IN ADDISON TOO. 
          SO I THINK WE'RE UNDERVALUING THAT AND IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR THE GROWTH OF ADDISON JUNCTION. 
          UM, AND JUST JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, ADDISON'S RIDERSHIP IS HIGHER THAN ARLINGTON VIAS AND IT'S STILL GROWING. 
          IT JUST POSTED ITS ITS BEST, UH, BEST QUARTER SINCE COVID. 
          UM, SO LET'S SAY WE WANNA MEET THAT RIDERSHIP. 
          LET'S SAY YES, WE VALUE IT. 
          GREAT, AWESOME. 
          HOW MANY VEHICLES IS THAT GONNA TAKE IN ARLINGTON? IT TAKES NEARLY A HUNDRED. 
          WHERE ARE WE GONNA STORE THOSE VEHICLES? DO WE CARE ABOUT MA MATCHING THE RIDERSHIP? I MEAN, THERE'S JUST SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ACCESS THAT WE SEEM TO THINK WILL BE SOLVED BY AI OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY THAT IS, IS A GEOMETRIC PROBLEM. 
          YOU CAN'T OPTIMIZE OUT OF THAT, RIGHT? SO I WOULD CAUTION Y'ALL TO BE CAREFUL, UM, ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WE ARE DIVERTING AWAY FROM ADDISON WITH DOING THIS. 
          AND A COUPLE MORE, UH, A COUPLE MORE THINGS REGARDING ACCESS, ACCESS TO THE ELECTION MATERIALS. 
          WHEN I'VE BEEN CANVASSING, UM, A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE THAT I TALK TO DON'T EVEN KNOW THIS ELECTION IS HAPPENING. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S KINDA ON Y'ALL. 
          UM, AND THERE'S NO, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE'S NO SPANISH VIETNAMESE OR OTHER COMMON DFW LANGUAGE ELECTION MATERIALS TO REACH THOSE VOTERS. 
          WE, WE HAVE A VERY DIVERSE GROUP OF DAR RIDERS WHO SPEAK MULTIPLE LANGUAGES. 
          WE'RE ONLY IN ENGLISH. 
          UH, WERE ONLY ACCESSIBLE ONLINE. 
          UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY TOWN HALLS. 
          WE DIDN'T HAVE A COMMITTEE LIKE PLANO DID, EVEN THOUGH THAT WAS A BIT OF A MESS, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT. 
          SO THERE'S THIS GENERAL AIR OF CONFUSION AND MY NEIGHBORS ARE RIGHT IN THAT THEY COULD UNDERSTAND THE INFORMATION IF GIVEN TO THEM. 
          WE JUST HAVEN'T DELIVERED IT. 
          AND SO THERE'S JUST SO MANY THINGS AND SO LITTLE TIME. 
          I REALLY HOPE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, TYLER. 
          NEXT UP IS RON WHITEHEAD, FOLLOWED BY TRICIA STEWART. 
          RON WHITEHEAD, 39 19 BOBBIN LANE. 
          I APPRECIATE THE STAFF AND COUNCIL'S RECOGNITION OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TRANSIT STATION IN ADDISON CIRCLE, WHICH IS EVIDENCED BY THE FIRST SENTENCE IN THE BACKGROUND SECTION OF ITEM FIVE C THAT SAYS, THE TOWN OF ADDISON HAS IDENTIFIED THE AREA SURROUNDING THE ADDISON TRANSIT CENTER IS A PRIORITY FOR THE ADDISON JUNCTION DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. 
          THE GOAL OF THE PROJECT IS TO ENCOURAGE MIXED USE, WALKABLE, HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT THAT SUPPORTS PUBLIC TRANSIT USE, ENHANCES ECONOMIC VITALITY, AND IMPROVES THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. 
          THE PROJECT ALIGNS WITH THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND REGIONAL MOBILITY OBJECTIVES. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING $41 MILLION ON PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT 18 ACRES OF DEVELOPMENT. 
          IF THE DART STATION CLOSES AND THE TRAINS AND BUSES NO LONGER STOP IN ADDISON, DOES THIS LEVEL OF INVESTMENT STILL MAKE SENSE? I'VE HEARD THE DEVELOPER SAY THAT THEY WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THE STATION, BUT WILL PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE IN DART. 
          THIS MIGHT WORK FOR THE DEVELOPER, BUT WILL IT WORK FOR THE RESIDENTS OF ADDISON AND FOR THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE TOWN EVERY DAY, WILL THE DEVELOPMENT BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS IT COULD BE WITHOUT A VIBRANT TRANSIT STATION IN THE MIDDLE OF IT? I CANNOT OVERSTATE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SILVER LINE THAT WE HAVE PURSUED FOR 43 YEARS TO GAIN CONNECTIONS TO DFW AIRPORT, THE RED LINE AND THE GREEN LINE. 
          A PRIVATE PURVEYOR WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MATCH THE CONNECTIVITY OF OUR SERVICE LEVEL OF DART AND THEY WON'T HAVE ACCESS TO, TO THE ADDISON STATION. 
          THEY DON'T OWN RAIL LINES. 
          AND THE NOLL ROAD STATION IS A POOR ALTERNATIVE TO OUR OWN STATION BECAUSE IT HAS NO PARKING. 
          IT IS A KISSING RIDE. 
          I HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER THESE FACTORS IN THE, IN YOUR DELIBERATION TO SPEND THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY BECAUSE THIS MONEY IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE MONEY THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING OF, UH, SPENDING ON TRANS TRANSIT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, RON. 
          NEXT UP IS TRICIA STEWART, FOLLOWED BY PATRICK MORGAN. 
          WELL, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          1 5 7. 
          FIVE FIVE. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE 
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BECAUSE I'M APOLOGIZING ON BEHALF OF MY FELLOW CITIZENS BECAUSE ONCE THERE WAS A TIME THAT THERE WAS RESPECT FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR POSITION AND FOR YOUR PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL SACRIFICES THAT YOU MAKE FOR OUR TOWN FOR NO MONEY. 
          AND SO PERSONAL SLANDER AND LIES AND ALL OF THAT I KNOW ARE JUST PART OF THE JOB AS BEING A PUBLIC SERVANT. 
          BUT TO ME THEY'RE UNACCEPTABLE, ESPECIALLY FOR ADULTS AND ADULTS THAT PREVIOUSLY HELD THOSE POSITIONS TO HEAR THREATS AND INSULTS AND, AND JUST, IT'S JUST BEYOND, UH, DISAPPOINTING TO, TO HAVE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN TO MY FELLOW CITIZENS. 
          I ASK YOU NOT TO ACCEPT JUST ONE NARRATIVE, ESPECIALLY ONE FUNDED BY PACS WITH THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, AND TO AT LEAST TRY TO LISTEN TO YOUR NEIGHBOR WHO'S TRYING TO REACH OUT TO YOU WITH SOME OTHER INFORMATION. 
          UNLESS YOU HEAR BOTH SIDES, YOU CAN'T MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. 
          SO PLEASE LISTEN BEFORE JUDGING AND ASK WHY. 
          UM, I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE PAST TOWN LEADERS AND, UH, OTHER, OTHER CITIZENS THAT PREVIOUSLY I NEVER SAW IN THE CIRCLE CANVASSING AND REACHING OUT TO MY APARTMENT NEIGHBORS BECAUSE IN THE PAST 20 YEARS I'VE LIVED HERE, I'VE NEVER SEEN THEM ONCE DOING THIS KIND OF EFFORT. 
          SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THEM TRYING TO ENGAGE WITH, WITH MY NEIGHBORS THAT THAT'S GREAT. 
          UM, I I THINK THAT ADDISON SHOULD BE REALLY PROUD THAT WE HELPED TO BUILD REGIONAL TRANSIT. 
          IT, IT'S A HUGE UNDERTAKING. 
          IT'S BILLIONS IN DEBT AND WE SHOULD BE REALLY PROUD THAT WE HELPED TAKE ON THAT. 
          BUT NOW IT IS TIME FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS DECISION BECAUSE THIS DECISION'S GONNA AFFECT OUR FUTURE, AND IT'S GOING TO AFFECT WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN FUND THINGS THAT WE NEED. 
          WE HAVE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT'S NEEDED. 
          WE HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          I I ATTENDED A, A FIFA THING TODAY ABOUT ALL OF THE, THE PEOPLE COMING WITH THE SEX TRAFFICKING AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING. 
          AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW WORRIED I AM THAT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO RESPOND TO THIS. 
          SO AS IMPORTANT AS REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION IS, THIS IS ABOUT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. 
          AND I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANYONE ON THIS DI SAY WE WOULD NOT PROVIDE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO EVERYONE. 
          NO ONE IS GOING TO BE LEFT BEHIND. 
          AND SO I HOPE THAT EVERYONE CAN AT LEAST STOP AND OPEN THEIR EARS AND LISTEN TO THE OPTIONS WITHOUT MAKING JUDGEMENTS, ESPECIALLY, UH, THINGS THAT, THAT ARE JUST, THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION. 
          AND, AND TO MY NEIGHBOR, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY, UH, THERE'S A THING CALLED FORK AND CORK THAT USED TO BE, UH, TASTE OF ADDISON. 
          TASTE OF ADDISON HAS COME AND GONE, UH, SEVERAL TIMES. 
          OR TASTE ADDISON, EXCUSE ME. 
          THERE'S NO UP. 
          JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THERE'S NO OVEN IN IT. 
          AND ALSO, UH, WHITE RHINO, THE REASON WHY PEOPLE ARE PICKING ON THAT WE NEED TO LEAVE OUR BUSINESSES ALONE, LEAVE OUR BUSINESSES ALONE. 
          WHITE RHINO PROVIDES, UH, COFFEE FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BAD. 
          THANK YOU, TRICIA. 
          NEXT WE HAVE PATRICK MORGAN, FOLLOWED BY KATHERINE WALSH. 
          HELLO, MY NAME IS PATRICK MORGAN. 
          I LIVE AT 14 5 0 1 MONFORT. 
          UM, MY QUESTION WAS, AND COULD YOU GIVE US THE CITY ON THAT, PLEASE? DALLAS, TEXAS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, YES, I'M, I'M THE BIG SCARY DALLAS RESIDENT. 
          UM, THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF MY APARTMENT IS THE CITY OF ADDISON. 
          SO, UM, MY QUESTION IS, WILL THE CITY STILL COMMIT TO THIS TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE EVEN IF THEY RAISE THEIR PRICES IN FUTURE YEARS? UM, THE CITY OF ARLINGTON IS THE LARGEST CITY IN THE NATION WITHOUT A FIXED DROUGHT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. 
          AND THEY HAVE A LARGE CONTRACT WITH VIA. 
          AND EVERY YEAR THE COST TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE GOES UP. 
          THE DEMAND FOR THE SERVICE IN THE CITY GOES UP AND THE CITY CAPS RIDERSHIP AND PROVIDES A LOWER LEVEL OF SERVICE TO ITS RESIDENTS. 
          IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IN ADDISON? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, PATRICK. 
          NEXT UP WE HAVE CATHERINE WALSH. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          I'M CATHERINE WALSH. 
          I LIVE IN PLANO, TEXAS 7 5 0 7 4. 
          AND I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          THE GO PASS APPLICATION IS DART'S INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY. 
          DOES THE TOWN OR THE VENDOR HAVE WRITTEN CONSENT FROM DART TO INTEGRATE ADDISON ORBIT INTO GO PASS? DO WE KNOW WHAT THE LICENSING, LICENSING COSTS ARE TO INTEGRATE INTO INDIGO PASS CURRENT, VIA INTEGRATIONS WITH GO PASS ARE THROUGH TRANSIT SYSTEM MEMBER CITIES, ARLINGTON DOES NOT HAVE GO PASS INTEGRATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, CATHERINE. 
          THAT IS THE LAST OF THE COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS THAT I HAVE. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS NOT SPOKEN THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? SURE. 
          COME FORWARD AL. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. 
          MY NAME IS AL CHAFFEY. 
          I'M AT 1 4 8 6 7 TOWN LAKE CIRCLE HERE IN 
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EDISON. 
          UM, I I, I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN IN, AGAIN, WE'VE GOTTEN SIDEWAYS ON THIS ISSUE. 
          I DON'T THINK WE'RE THINKING VERY CLEARLY ABOUT IT. 
          WE'VE, WE, WE'VE CAST THIS AS AN OR QUESTION, DO WE HAVE DART OR DO WE GO IT ALONE? AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT. 
          I LIKE WHAT I SEE, WHAT I'VE READ SO FAR IN THE PLAN. 
          I'M DUG DOWN INTO THE DETAILS AS MUCH A CIRCULATOR SYSTEM THAT SERVES THE RESIDENTS PRIMARILY HERE AND MAYBE SOME OF THE VISITORS AS WELL. 
          GREAT IDEA. 
          GET INTO THE 21ST CENTURY. 
          LIKE, LIKE, LIKE, LIKE DOUG TALKED ABOUT. 
          GREAT IDEA. 
          IT'S, AND WE DO THAT WITH DART, NOT WITHOUT DART, NOT INSTEAD OF DART. 
          THIS IS A SUPPLEMENT, NOT A SUPPLANTING MOVE. 
          I THINK THAT IS A MISTAKE BECAUSE THAT IS THAT, THAT DOES NOT CONSIDER THE VALUE OF HAVING AN INTERLINKED GREATER REGIONAL TRANSIT SYSTEM. 
          THIS, I THINK IS BORN OF A GREATER PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE HERE IN DALLAS, HAS BEEN A PET PEEVE OF MINE FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          WE ARE MORE SIMILAR TO CANCUN THAN WE ARE TO ANY OTHER CITY IN THE COUNTRY. 
          WE HAVE 120,000 DAILY VISITORS AND WHAT, 18,000 RESIDENTS. 
          IF THE RESIDENTS STOPPED PAYING TAXES, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE CITY OF DALLAS? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO OUR BUDGET IF THE VISITORS STOPPED SPENDING THEIR MONEY HERE AND PAYING TAXES? WE'D HAVE A BIGGER HALT TO FILL. 
          IF THE RESIDENTS OF CANCUN WERE VOTING ON AN ISSUE THAT AFFECTED THE ABILITY FOR THEIR VISITORS TO COME TO THEIR CITY, THEY WOULD NEVER SUPPORT SUCH A MOVE. 
          AND WE DON'T COUCH ISSUES THAT WAY. 
          I'VE SERVED ON SEVERAL CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEES. 
          I'M ON THE AIRPORT COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THE BIGGEST ISSUE I HAVE WITH THE AIRPORT COMMITTEE, I CAN'T TELL WHAT THE ECONOMIC VALUE IS. 
          THE BUDGETS ARE SIMPLY NOT MADE THAT WAY. 
          THEY'RE NOT PROMOTED THAT WAY. 
          WE DON'T DISCUSS ISSUES THAT WAY. 
          AND I THINK THAT IS THE GREATER ISSUE THAT IS CAUSING THE CONFUSION AND THE ANGST THAT YOU HEAR ABOUT THIS ISSUE. 
          I DON'T THINK WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS CLEARLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU AL. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD. 
          ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          AND, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR, UH, FOR ENGAGING WITH THE COUNCIL. 
          UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, 
          [4. Consent Agenda. All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]
CONSENT AGENDA. 
          CONSENT TONIGHT INCLUDES ITEMS FOUR, A, B, C, D, NOT E, E IS BEING POST IS POSTPONED. 
          AND THEN FOUR F, SO FOUR A THROUGH D AND F IS THERE. 
          MOTION. 
          MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOUR A THROUGH D AND F FOUR F SECOND. 
          THANK YOU MARLENE AND CHRIS FOR THE SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED. 
          ALRIGHT, 
          [a.  Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving an agreement with Via Transportation Inc. for on-demand micro-transit and paratransit services in an amount not to exceed $935,495 for an initial six (6) month term, with an option to renew the agreement for an additional one (1) year term; authorizing the City Manager to negotiate and execute the agreement; and providing an effective date.]
MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE A PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AGREEMENT WITH VIA TRANSPORTATION INC. 
          FOR ON DEMAND MICRO TRANSIT AND PARATRANSIT SERVICES IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $935,495 FOR AN INITIAL SIX MONTH TERM WITH AN OPTION TO RENEW THE AGREEMENT FOR AN ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR TERM, UH, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          ASHLEY, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. 
          COUNSEL, I THOUGHT I PUSHED THE GREEN BUTTON. 
          I MUST HAVE TURNED IT OFF. 
          UM, THE RESOLUTION OF APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH VIA TO KIND OF GO BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED. 
          UM, COUNSEL HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE DECEMBER. 
          ON MARCH 10TH, COUNSEL INTERVIEWED TWO COMPANIES AND TODAY WE'RE HERE TO CONSIDER A CONTRACT WITH VIA. 
          WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS GO OVER SOME OF THE CONTRACT INFORMATION AND THEN VIA WILL COME UP AND GIVE THEIR PROPOSAL AND WHAT IT WILL ALL LOOK LIKE. 
          SO SCOPE OF SERVICE VIA IS GOING TO PROVIDE SIX MINIVANS WITH THREE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE MINIVANS. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE A TOTAL OF SEVEN ACTIVE VEHICLES AND TWO SPARES. 
          THEY'LL PROVIDE A MICRO TRANSIT ON DEMAND RIDESHARE ACROSS THE ENTIRE ENTIRE TOWN OF ADDISON, ALONG WITH SEVEN RALLY POINTS. 
          UM, THEY HAVE A DA AND FTA COMPLIANT PARATRANSIT FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH UH, DISABILITIES. 
          THE PLAN IS IF YOU ARE ALREADY CERTIFIED WITH DART, YOU WILL COME OVER ALREADY CERTIFIED. 
          THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A CERTIFICATION PROCESS ONCE WE GET THIS STOOD UP. 
          UH, DART'S NUMBERS ARE VERY HIGH FOR THE NUMBER OF PARATRANSIT USERS, SO WE WANT TO VERIFY THAT INFORMATION. 
          THE RALLY POINTS THAT WE HAVE LISTED ARE AT NOLL TRAIL, 
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VERDE VALLEY AND NOEL TRINITY MILLS AND ADDISON ROAD, BELTLINE AND VENTURE SPRING VALLEY AND MONTFORT, MIDWAY AND ALPHA, AND THEN THE DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON STATION. 
          WHEN LOOKING AT THESE, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL BUS LINES THAT COME THROUGH ADDISON RIGHT NOW HAVE A RALLY POINT THAT CAN BE USED. 
          DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON IS A, THAT IS A STATION THAT WAS ADDED BECAUSE IT IS A BIG CONNECTOR TO BOTH THE SILVER LINE. 
          A NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR ALONG WITH CONNECTING TO DCTA, UH, VIA WILL ALLOW YOU TO BOOK RIDES EITHER THROUGH THEIR MOBILE APP OR THROUGH A TELEPHONE. 
          SO YOU CAN CALL THEIR, UM, CALL CENTER. 
          THEY OFFER THE VEHICLES, DRIVERS TECHNOLOGY, MARKETING AND DATA THAT WE NEED. 
          SERVICE CAN BE EXPANDED AT TOWN REQUEST AND MUTUAL AGREEMENT. 
          AND THEN THEY'LL ALSO PROVIDE A TRANSIT STUDY OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE OUR NEEDS BASED ON THE CURRENT RIDERSHIP THAT IS USING THE APP AND THAT'S USING THE SERVICE. 
          AND WHERE CAN WE EXPAND? AGAIN, HERE'S THE SIX RALLY POINTS. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          THE, UM, SEVENTH RALLY POINT OF THE DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON STATION IS NOT LISTED ON HERE, BUT THIS IS THE SIX RALLY POINTS AND THEN THE FEE STRUCTURE, BECAUSE WE WERE STILL NEGOTIATING. 
          WE PUT A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT, BUT THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR THE SIX MONTH TERM IS ACTUALLY 872,231. 
          SO THERE'S A UPFRONT COST OF 80 3063. 
          THAT INCLUDES ACQUIRING THE VEHICLES, WRAPPING THEM, MARKETING OF THE SERVICE ITSELF. 
          WE OBVIOUSLY WITH PARATRANSIT BEING A BIG USER ALONG WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MARKET THE PRODUCT. 
          WE HAVE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW IT'S AVAILABLE. 
          WE HAVE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW HOW THEY CAN BE READY. 
          IF THE ELECTION GOES TO WHERE WE LEAVE DART, WE NEED PEOPLE READY TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS SERVICE. 
          IT VIA, UNLIKE OTHERS, DO A ALL INCLUSIVE VEHICLE HOUR FEE. 
          SO THEY ARE BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT THE TOWN HAS SET OUT, WHICH IS THE SEVEN VEHICLES WITH TWO SPARES, A 12 MINUTE AVERAGE WAIT TIME, A FIVE MINUTE PASSENGER WAIT TIME, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA WAIT LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES ON AN INDIVIDUAL PASSENGER DOOR TO DOOR, DOOR SERVICE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND MAJOR RETAIL AREA. 
          SO GOING TO SOMETHING LIKE A, UH, A HOTEL OR AN OFFICE BUILDING WILL BE DOOR TO DOOR. 
          IF THEY GO TO A LARGE AREA LIKE VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, THEY MAY DROP YOU OFF IN A CENTRAL LOCATION CLOSE TO WHERE OTHER PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO BE DROPPED OFF. 
          BUT FOR THE MAJORITY IT'S A DOOR TO DOOR, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND THEN THE, I APOLOGIZE, THE SEVEN RALLY POINTS THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO IT'S AN ALL INCLUSIVE VEHICLE HOUR FEE OF $61 AND 10 CENTS. 
          SO A VEHICLE HOUR IS THE HOUR. 
          A DRIVER IS ACTIVE ON THE VIA PLATFORM. 
          THERE'S A $25,000 MINIMUM, BUT THE TOWN IS INVOICED FOR THE HOURS THAT WE USE. 
          UH, VIA CAN RENEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT IF THE COST RISE MORE THAN 10% FOR LA LABOR, VEHICLE LEASING OR FUEL. 
          AND THEN THE TOWN ACTUALLY SETS WHAT WE CHARGE FOR A FAIR AT THIS MOMENT, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING MORE OF A PILOT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          WE NEED TO LOOK AT RIDERSHIP. 
          WE'RE RECOMMENDING NOT CHARGING A FEE FOR NOW AND COMING BACK DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION, THE SUMMER, AND TALKING ABOUT A FAIR STRUCTURE. 
          UM, DATA SHARING AND REPORTING, THAT IS A VERY BIG THING. 
          WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHO'S USING THE SERVICE, WHERE ARE THEY GOING, WHAT ARE THEIR NEEDS. 
          SO THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE VIA WILL PROVIDE REAL TIME AND PERIODIC DA DATA DASHBOARDS, MONTHLY CUSTOMER SERVICE REPORTS THAT INCLUDE COMPLAINTS, ANY SERVICE EVENTS. 
          UM, WE HAVE THE RIGHT AS A TOWN TO RESPOND TO ANY CUSTOMER SERVICE COMPLAINTS, UH, VIA WE'LL DO A TRANSIT STUDY, WHICH I MENTIONED. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE STUDY WILL ALSO CONS COVER MICRO TRANSIT, PARATRANSIT IF A FIXED ROUTE MAKES SENSE AND WE'LL SHARE THAT WITH THE TOWN IF WE EVALUATE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT FOR LONGER THAN SIX MONTHS. 
          AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER DE DESIGNATED FOR STAFF TO WORK WITH, UM, TO TALK ABOUT ANY DEFAULT TERMINATION AND INSURANCE. 
          THERE'S 
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A 10 DAY CURE PERIOD. 
          UM, THE TOWN HAS THE RIGHT TO TERMINATE AFTER THE INITIAL TERM WITH A 90 DAY NOTICE, OR WE CAN SUSPEND WITHIN 30 WITH A 30 DAY NOTICE. 
          AND THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO MAINTAIN ALL POLICIES FOR OUR FOR INDEMNIFICATION. 
          THEY ALSO PUT IN AN EARLY TERMINATION. 
          SO THE TOWN MAY TERMINATE FOR ANY REASON IF THE CONTRACTOR, UH, DEFAULTS. 
          BUT ALSO IF THE DART ELECTION IS SO THAT WE STAY WITH DART, WE ARE ALLOWED TO TERMINATE. 
          UM, THERE WILL BE SOME ONE TIME UPFRONT COST AND THOSE WILL BE DETERMINED BASED ON THE VEHICLES THAT WE PICKED. 
          BUT IT WILL BE SIMILAR TO WHAT THE ONE-TIME FEE WAS LISTED BEFORE AT THE 87,000. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, BOTH PARATRANSIT AND MICRO TRANSIT ON DEMAND SERVICE IS SET TO LAUNCH FOR ON APRIL 24TH. 
          AGAIN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL RIDERS KNOW WHAT THE SERVICE IS, ARE SIGNED UP, READY TO USE IT IN CASE THIS IS THE PATH THAT THE VOTERS GO. 
          WE WANT EVERYBODY TO NOT BE, HAVE QUESTIONS, NOT BE STRANDED, BUT BE READY TO GO FORWARD. 
          SO IN SUMMARY, THE TOWN IS ENTERING INTO A SIX MONTH ON DEMAND TRANSIT AGREEMENT WITH VIA FOR PARATRANSIT AND A COMPREHENSIVE MICRO TRANSIT SERVICE FOR OUR VISITORS AND OUR RESIDENTS. 
          THE CONTRACT IS STRUCTURED AS AN ALL-INCLUSIVE PER VEHICLE HOUR FEE WITH A CAP OF NOT TO EXCEED $872,231 FOR THE INITIAL TERM. 
          UM, THIS IS BUDGETED IN THE STREET SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS. 
          AN ITEM WILL COME TO YOU NEXT TO AUTHORIZE THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT IF YOU SO CHOOSE. 
          AND SERVICES WILL LAUNCH APRIL 24TH. 
          AND THEY HAVE GUARANTEED, UM, STRONG PERFORMANCE METRICS, TRANSPARENT DATA SHARING AND UH, UM, THE ABILITY TO GET OUT PENDING THE ELECTION. 
          WITH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS OF ME BEFORE VIA COMES UP? QUESTIONS? UH, FIRST ASHLEY, THE LAST TIME I, FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND THE TIME YOU'VE BEEN PUTTING INTO THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 
          UH, THE LAST PRESENTATION THAT YOU MADE, I ASKED FOR SOME SPECIFIC THINGS. 
          UM, I ASKED FOR, UM, THEIR AVERAGE WAIT TIME AT THEIR EXISTING CITIES, THEIR ON TIME PERFORMANCE PERCENTAGE, AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF RIDE REQUESTS GO ON FIELD. 
          UM, I DIDN'T SEE THOSE IN THE PRESENTATION ANYWHERE. 
          UM, I DO NOT HAVE THAT IN THE PRESENTATION. 
          THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO SPEAK TO. 
          SO YOU DIDN'T GET IT? I DID NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          I ALSO ASKED FOR FINANCIALS, INCOME STATEMENT AND BALANCE SHEET. 
          DID AND HAVE WE RECEIVED THOSE? NO, WE HAVE NOT. 
          AND I WILL GET THOSE. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE ASKED TO BE MAKING ALMOST A MILLION DOLLAR COMMITMENT TO A COMPANY WE DON'T KNOW FINANCIALLY ANYTHING ABOUT. 
          I ALSO ASKED FOR IF THEY HAD ANY ONGOING LAWSUITS, WHICH I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW. 
          DID YOU FIND THAT OUT? I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, SO NO. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION. 
          OKAY. 
          I ALSO ASKED STAFF TO GO AND LOOK AT ALL OF THE STOPS, THE, WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE RALLY POINTS. 
          CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT WE FOUND OUT THERE? JUST TELL ME ABOUT 'EM. 
          SURE. 
          SO I, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR THE, UM, SHELTERS AND EVERYTHING? YEAH. 
          SO UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF THE STOPS DO NOT HAVE SHELTERS. 
          EXACTLY. 
          SO LET ME, LET ME JUST GO ON THE LIST. 
          NOEL TRAIL'S. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THERE'S A STATION THERE, UH, VERDE VALLEY AND NOEL. 
          THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. 
          NOT EVEN A BENCH. 
          TRINITY MILLS AND EDISON ROAD MAYBE, BUT NO ONE COULD TELL ME IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WHERE THAT STOP IS RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, BELTLINE AND VENTURE, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, NO COVERING, NO BENCH, NO NOTHING. 
          UH, SPRING VALLEY AND MONFORT, I THINK IT'S COVERED. 
          IT'S A LITTLE GRAY ON WHERE EXACTLY THAT STOP IS, BUT THERE ARE MULTIPLE COVERED STOPS THERE. 
          MIDWAY AND ALPHA. 
          I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS NOTHING. 
          UH, DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON I'M FINE WITH. 
          UM, THIS IS REALLY CONCERNING TO ME. 
          YOU KNOW, WE HAD A SPEAKER COME UP AND SAY THIS IS THE GREATEST TECHNOLOGY AND IT'S THE BEST. 
          AND WE WERE CRAZY FOR NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT. 
          THIS IS NOT THAT AT ALL. 
          THE PROBLEM IS MAYBE MICRO CHANCE IS GOOD. 
          IF WE'RE GOING POINT TO POINT, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW ADDISON'S USING IT. 
          WE'RE DOING THIS CUMBERSOME THING WHERE WE'RE ASKING SOMEONE WHO WORKS IN ADDISON. 
          WE ALREADY HEARD SOMEONE TALK TONIGHT THAT WE'RE 18,000 PEOPLE. 
          WE SWELL TO 125,000. 
          SO THE IDEA IS TO MAKE IT MORE CONVENIENT 
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TO GET PEOPLE HERE, AND WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LIVE IN CARROLLTON AND YOU WORK IN ADDISON, WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU TO TAKE A BUS, GET TO THAT BELTLINE VENTURE STOP. 
          YOU'RE GONNA WAIT, AS OUR VENDOR TOLD US AT LEAST 12 MINUTES. 
          THERE'S NO COVERING THERE. 
          SO IF IT, WE, WE JUST CAME OFF A WEEK WHERE IT WAS 35 DEGREES, IT WAS 90 DEGREES, IT WAS RAINING. 
          HOW IS THIS BETTER? THIS IS NOT BETTER. 
          THIS IS THE LAST THING WE SHOULD BE BE DOING, BECAUSE WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS MAKING EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO GET HERE. 
          UM, I HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE CONTRACT. 
          DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT NOW? SURE. 
          WELL, LET ME GO, I'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. 
          HOLD ON. 
          UM, CAN YOU CONFIRM, AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR A QUESTION FOR THE VENDOR LATER, SOMEONE ASKED ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, THE GO PASS, CAN THAT BE A METHOD OF PAYMENT THAT THEY USE? YES. 
          AND THEY WILL ACTUALLY SHOW HOW THAT ALL, ALL THAT WORKS. 
          AN INTEGRATION WITH THE, THE APP. 
          YES. 
          UM, FUEL SURCHARGE AND INFLATION LABOR. 
          WE SORT OF TALKED ABOUT THAT. 
          MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN THE VENDOR COMES UP. 
          HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT HITTING COSTS? SO NOW THE CITY'S GONNA BE IN THE TRANSPORTATION BUSINESS. 
          ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO HIRE AN EXTRA STAFF MEMBER? UM, WHO HANDLES CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS? WHO'S LIABLE IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT? UM, THE WAY THAT I UNDERSTAND IT IS IF GOD FORBID A DART BUS RAN OVER SOMEONE AND KILLED SOMEONE IN OUR TOWN, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT LIABLE. 
          BUT NOW THAT WE'RE IN THE TRANSPORTATION BUSINESS, WE COULD BE, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I'VE GOT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT DOES THAT INDEMNITY CLAUSE LOOK LIKE? THAT'LL BE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. 
          UM, AND CAN IT BE PIERCED? UM, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE ANNUAL PRICE INCREASES HAVE BEEN THAT, UH, ARLINGTON? NO, I THINK THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A REALLY GOOD QUESTION TO KNOW, BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS THE CONTRACT LOOKS GREAT THIS YEAR, BUT WHAT DOES THE FOLLOWING YEAR LOOK LIKE AND THE FOLLOWING YEAR LOOK LIKE? AND WHAT IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH VEHICLES BEFORE WE KNOW WE'LL BE PAYING $17 MILLION FOR A SUBPAR SERVICE? UM, LET ME JUST GO TO THE CITY ATTORNEY IF THERE IS, GOD FORBID, AN INCIDENT, LIKE A DEATH. 
          HOW, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE NOW FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND ITS LIABILITY AS A THIRD PARTY SERVICE? UNDER THE AGREEMENT, THEY ARE SELF-INSURED, WELL INSURED FOR, UH, UP TO, UM, I THINK A $2 MILLION CON, 3 MILLION, 10 MILLION, 10 MILLION UMBRELLA TOTAL. 
          ESSENTIALLY, IT'S HANDLED ALL THROUGH THE THIRD PARTY. 
          AND AS YOU INDICATED, COUNCIL MEMBER, OUR CONTRACT CONCLUDES A INDEMNITY WHERE NOT ONLY ARE WE AN ADDITIONAL INSURED ON THEIR INSURANCE POLICIES, HOWEVER THEY ASSUME ALL LIABILITY, UM, FOR ANY CLAIMS OR ANYTHING AS A RESULT OF THEIR SERVICES. 
          UM, THE TOWN IS NOT INVOLVED IN THE OPERATIONS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, NOR IS IT, UM, UH, GOING TO BE CONTRACTING DIRECTLY WITH ANY OF THE RIDERS OR THE CITIZENS. 
          SO WE ARE ESSENTIALLY ONE LEGAL STEP REMOVED FROM LIABILITY AND WE ARE PROTECTED BY THE INDEMNITY CLAUSE. 
          CAN THOSE INDEMNITY CLAUSES EVER BE PIERCED? I MEAN, 3 MILLION, IF MY DAUGHTER WAS TO GET RAN OVER BY A BUS, I'D BE COMING AFTER A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN 3 MILLION AND I'D BE GOING AFTER THE DEEPEST POCKETS, WHICH WOULD BE THE TOWN. 
          SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SURE, AND I, AGAIN, THE ORIGINAL CLAIMS SHOULD BE COVERED UNDER THE INSURANCE POLICIES, UM, BARRING SOME, UH, ODD EXCEPTION, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF INSURANCE POLICIES THAT WE REQUIRE THAT, UH, VIA CARRY, UH, AND VIA WOOD CARRY, REGARDLESS UNDER THIS SERVICE. 
          UM, AND AS FAR AS IN INDEMNITY, OUR INDEMNITY IS A, AS A, AS WRITTEN, IS A VERY KIND OF INDUSTRY STANDARD INDEMNITY. 
          IT'S A VERY COMMON INDEMNITY AMONGST MUNICIPALITIES. 
          UM, IT'S GENERALLY WELL DEFENDED. 
          UM, IT'S BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME THE WAY WE STRUCTURE THEM. 
          THAT SAID, I CAN'T OPINE AS TO SPECIFIC COMPLAINTS OR SPECIFIC INCIDENCES AND WHAT, WHAT MAY RESULT AS, YOU KNOW, IN WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER VERY UNLIKELY LITIGATION SCENARIO IF WE WERE BROUGHT IN UNDER A CLAIM FOR SOMETHING THAT VIA DID. 
          OKAY. 
          AND FINALLY, UM, I, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THIS PILOT PROGRAM. 
          I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE, UM, ALLOWING THIS COMPANY TO MARKET. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE UNDER CONTRACT WITH THEM. 
          THEY'LL BE RECEIVING TOWN FUNDS. 
          UM, I'M NOT ALLOWED TO, YOU KNOW, SHARE MY THOUGHT ON DART AND USE TOWN FUNDS. 
          THE TOWN'S NOT DART'S, NOT OUR REPLACEMENT TO DART COULD INFLUENCE THE VOTE, AND I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          SO I'VE ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO REACH OUT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND COME UP WITH AN OPINION. 
          UM, SO I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS. 
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THAT'S ALL I GOT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS CHRIS. 
          RANDY, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I WANNA ASK A FEW QUESTIONS, UH, TO TRY TO CLEAR UP A LITTLE BIT OF THE MISINFORMATION THAT'S GOING AROUND, AND I'VE ACTUALLY HEARD A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS TONIGHT BROUGHT UP, SO I'D LIKE TO CLEAR THOSE UP. 
          WILL WE HAVE PARATRANSIT ON DAY ONE? YES. 
          WILL THERE BE ANY LAG TIME OR ANY UH, UH, RE-REGISTRATION BY ANYONE THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE DART PARATRANSIT SYSTEM? OR WILL THAT WILL THAT PASSOVER AND WE WILL USE THE SAME LIST STARTING UP WHERE NO ONE IS LEFT BEHIND. 
          WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN GET THE LIST SPECIFICALLY FROM DART. 
          THAT IS WHAT VIA WANTS TO START DOING AS SOON AS THE CONTRACT IS SIGNED IS GETTING AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN GETTING OUT. 
          AND THEY'LL, THEY CAN TALK TO KIND OF HOW THEY PLAN TO DO THAT. 
          THE PLAN IS TO KNOW NOT, I MEAN, TO HAVE ALL THE, UM, I GO TO THE DOCTOR EVERY MONDAY AND FRIDAY TO HAVE ALL OF THAT BOOKED, SET UP AND READY TO GO PRIOR TO DAY ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT SOME OF THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE OUTREACH AND SOME OF THAT MAY BE THE REASON THAT WE'RE DOING A PILOT PROGRAM TO TRY TO WORK SOME OF THE BUGS OUT OF THE SYSTEM AND MAKE SURE, MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THE I'S DOTTED AND THEN T'S CROSSED GOING FORWARD, UH, TO WHERE WE'RE NOT STARTING ALL OVER IN A CRUNCH. 
          UH, OUTSIDE RIDERS COMING INTO ADDISON, ARE WE LEAVING ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE BEHIND OR WILL THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET ON THE GO APP OR THE, THE, UH, UH, PHONE GET WITH VIA SCHEDULE THEIR RIDE FOR THE TIME THAT THEY NEED IT TO GET THEM INTO ADDISON? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WILL THE PRICE GO UP? WE DON'T KNOW. 
          THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE GAME WE PLAY, BUT, UH, IT'LL TAKE A LONG, LONG TIME TO GET TO 17 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. 
          UM, WE PAID DART. 
          WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE SCHEDULED TO PAY DART IN 2026? OR LET, LET'S GO BACK ON 20, 25 NUMBERS. 
          IS THAT APPROXIMATELY $17.5 MILLION THAT DART IS COLLECTING FROM ADDISON? YES. 
          MONEY. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES DART CHARGE A FAIR YES. 
          OF THAT FARE? WHERE DOES THAT FARE GO BACK INTO THE DART SYSTEM? DOES ADDISON GET ANY OF THAT FARE? THAT DART CHARGES? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          IF WE GO WITH VIA AND, UH, WE HAVE THE 800 AND WHAT IS IT THAT WE DECIDE ON? EIGHT HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE THIRTY $5,000 INITIAL CONTRACT. 
          AND WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED TOO MUCH ON FARES, BUT I THINK WE ARE ALL OF THE OPINION THAT NO CHARGE IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO AT THIS POINT. 
          BUT LET'S SAY WE DECIDE TO CHARGE, LET'S SAY THAT WE DECIDED TO CHARGE A DOLLAR FOR A FAIR, WHERE WOULD THAT DOLLAR GO? IT WOULD GO BACK TO THE TOWN. 
          IT WOULD COME TO ADDISON, CORRECT. 
          WE ARE PAYING VIA THEIR CHARGE. 
          AND ANYTHING WE ELECT TO CHARGE IN FARES COMES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND OF ADDISON TO BE USED FOR OTHER PROJECTS IN TOWN, CORRECT? YES, IT COULD BE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, DOOR TO DOOR, SOMEONE CAME UP AND, AND MADE THE COMMENT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO A CORNER AND WAIT ON THE RIDE AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS COMING. 
          WHAT IS OUR PLAN? IT IS ACTUALLY DOOR TO DOOR. 
          THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL THAT VIA PRESENTED WAS A VIRTUAL STOP. 
          SO YOU COULD HAVE TO WALK POTENTIALLY UP TO A QUARTER OF A MILE. 
          WE CHANGED THAT TO BE A DOOR TO DOOR SERVICE. 
          WE ARE CONTRACTING DOOR TO DOOR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IN THAT DOOR TO DOOR, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TELL WHO THE DRIVER IS, WHAT THE CAR IS AND WHERE IT IS, AND THE ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          WHEN, WHEN THE RALLY POINTS WERE BROUGHT UP EARLIER, AND, UH, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT MANY OF THESE RALLY POINTS DON'T HAVE COVERS, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SHELTER. 
          UM, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A DART PROBLEM TO ME BECAUSE OUR RALLY POINTS ARE DART STOPS AND I WOULD RATHER BE ABLE TO SEE IT ON MY PHONE AND KNOW WHEN IT'S COMING. 
          AND I CAN STAY INSIDE MY RESTAURANT IF I'M CALLING FROM A RESTAURANT OR STAY IN MY LIVING ROOM AND KNOW WHEN TO STEP OUT OF MY FRONT DOOR WHEN THE CAR GETS THERE AS WAIT FOR A DART PUSS IN THE RAIN, THE HEAT, THE 
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SLEET, OR THE COLD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IF, IF WE FIND THAT THE CURRENT CONTRACT OF THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE CONTRACTED FOR IS NOT SUFFICIENT, WHETHER THAT BE WE DON'T NEED THAT MANY OR WE NEED MORE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY, DO, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK TO VIA AND SAY, WE WE ARE NEEDING TO ADJUST THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE? YES. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE PERFORMANCE METRICS, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE NOT MEETING THE METRICS THAT WE SET OUT. 
          SO IF WAIT TIMES ARE SEEMING LONGER, UM, AND THEN AT THE END OF THAT SIX MONTH PERIOD IS WHEN WE'LL REALLY SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT THE DEMAND, UM, THE NUMBER OF RIDERS AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR NUMBER OF VEHICLES ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR NUMBER OF RIDERS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND MEETING THOSE METRICS. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE NINE VEHICLES, SIX AND TH WITH THREE PAIRED TRANSIT TO WHERE THEY ARE WHEELCHAIR ACCEPTABLE AND GOING, UH, IF WE DECIDE IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT WE DON'T NEED NINE VEHICLES, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY WE DON'T NEED THAT AND WE CAN ACTUALLY SAVE HOURS BY DOING THAT BECAUSE WE'RE BEING CHARGED HOURS. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONTRACT, AND THIS IS A QUESTION TO YOU, THE HOURS ARE CHARGED WHEN THERE IS A DRIVER IN THE CAR ON CALL TO BE DRIVEN. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          AND I'LL LET VIA SPEAK MORE TO THAT WHEN THEY COME UP, BUT YES, THAT'S WHY IT'S A AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED, SO THAT THAT NUMBER COULD BE LESS IF THE DEMAND ISN'T THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF, IF 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, WE'VE NOT HAD THREE WRITERS IN THE LAST MONTH, WE CAN ADJUST THAT, UM, ON THE APP TRANSITION IT, I, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PRESENTATION AND THE VIDEO WITH, WITH THE GOAL, UH, HAS AND I, I I, I DO WANT THEM TO ADDRESS WHAT WAS ASKED OF ONE OF THE SPEAKERS COMING UP. 
          IS THAT A, UH, A LEGAL INTEGRATION? HAVE THEY GOT COPYRIGHT USAGE ON THAT? IS THERE ANYTHING IN THAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO ADDRESS THAT? UM, I'M GONNA LET SOMEONE ELSE GO FOR A LITTLE WHILE. 
          I'VE GOT MORE QUESTIONS, BUT I'VE, I'VE TAKEN UP ENOUGH TIME. 
          I'LL LET SOMEONE ELSE ASK HOWARD. 
          I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT QUESTIONS. 
          DAN FIRST, THEN HOWARD. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          MAYOR. 
          UM, LESLIE, JUST TO, TO CHRIS'S COUNTER, JUST TO BE A COUNTERPOINT TO CHRIS'S QUESTIONS, AND I DON'T HAVE THEM WRITTEN DOWN, I SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN THEM DOWN, CHRIS, AND YOU CAN PROBABLY HELP ME ALONG THIS. 
          UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FINANCIAL STABILITY OF VIA, I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU IN TERMS OF WANTING THAT INFORMATION. 
          UM, BUT I WILL ASK THE SAME QUESTION. 
          DO WE KNOW THE VIABILITY OF DART'S FINANCIAL SITUATION? SO I'LL ASK THAT OF ASHLEY. 
          DO WE KNOW THEY GIVE US AN AUDITED FINANCIAL EVERY SINGLE YEAR? THAT'S A REALLY DEEP DIVE INTO HOW A COMPANY PERFORMS. DAN HAS, HAS THE FLOOR. 
          SORRY, DAN. 
          YEAH, I I, BUT I WAS OPENLY ASKING YOU, CHRIS, SO IN, JUST IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL STABILITY, WE KNOW THAT DART IS NOT FINANCIALLY SOLVENT IN SOUND RIGHT NOW. 
          WE KNOW THEY'RE TAKING ON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DEBT. 
          NOW. 
          I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO BRING THIS UP FOR FACTUAL SPEAKING. 
          I'M NOT TAKING SIDES. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO HAVE AN OPEN CONVERSATION WITH, WITH THOSE IN, IN ATTENDANCE SINCE I'M IN OKLAHOMA. 
          UM, WHEN I LOOK AT LAW, THE WORD YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT OPEN LAWSUITS, UM, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY OPEN LAWSUITS THAT DOES DART HAVE ANY OPEN LAWSUITS? SO I WOULD WANT TO, I, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE SET OF NUMBERS COMING IN FROM VIA I'D, LIKE, IF, IF WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS EXERCISE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY LAWSUITS DART IS INVOLVED IN RIGHT NOW SINCE THAT THAT HAS TO DO WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS PROBABLY PART OF THEIR AUDIT, UM, AG. 
          AGREE. 
          BUT I JUST THINK THESE ARE THINGS WE, IF WE'RE GONNA ASK VIA FOR THE SAME FACTS, I THINK WE NEED TO POINT OUT THE FACTS OF WHAT WE'RE WE ARE ALREADY EXPERIENCING OR DEALING WITH WITHIN DART'S PRODUCT AS A VENDOR. 
          SO IT'S JUST, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A POINTED QUESTION FOR A POTENTIAL VENDOR, AND TO GET BACK TO THE POINT, UM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS AGREEABLE ABOUT THE AG, IS THIS LEGAL TO USE THE FUNDS TO START A TEST MODEL? UM, I AM, I'M IN ALL FAVOR TO START AHEAD OF THE CURVE VERSUS BEHIND THE CURVE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION FOR MONTHS NOW, WE DON'T WANNA LEAVE OUR RESIDENTS BEHIND, OF WHICH THERE IS THAT ANXIETY. 
          THERE IS THAT FEARMONGERING THAT SOMEONE WILL BE LEFT STANDING IN THE RAIN, SOMEONE WILL NOT HAVE A SEAT, SOMEONE WILL GET IGNORED. 
          AND I FEEL AS THOUGH THAT'S NOT BEING FAIR TO VIA, I DON'T KNOW HOW VALID THE NUMBERS ARE, UM, FROM TYLER'S COMMENTS EARLIER, BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO CHALLENGE THOSE NUMBERS AND GET MORE FACTS BASED AND MAYBE VIA, YOU'LL GET TO TALK ON THAT SHORTLY, UM, AND, AND BRING SOME OF 
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THAT TO LIGHT. 
          BUT THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'M SITTING HERE LISTENING THAT I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO BRING BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN IN THE CONVERSATION. 
          BECAUSE WHEN THE EY STUDY CAME INTO PLAY, AND WE DIDN'T COMMISSION THAT, EVERYONE THREW DARTS AT THAT EY STUDY. 
          IT'S FLAWED, IT'S FLAWED, IT'S FLAWED, BUT YET WE'RE NOT GIVING VIA THE OPPORTUNITY AS A POTENTIAL VENDOR TO SIGN A POTENTIAL CONTRACT TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND THEIR THEMSELVES. 
          SO THAT'S ALL. 
          I JUST WANT THERE TO BE FULL TRANSPARENCY. 
          WE KNOW THERE ARE FLAWS WITH PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AS IS. 
          UM, I, I CERTAINLY AM LOOKING AT THE FUTURE ABOUT MOBILE APPS, AND I THINK THAT IS THE, THE PROGRESSIVE NATURE OF THINGS. 
          I'VE, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, UM, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE DART HAD AN OPPORTUNITY 20 YEARS AGO OR 10 YEARS AGO, OR LAST YEAR OR NEXT YEAR, TO COME UP WITH THEIR OWN, UM, CALL IT A MORE FRIENDLY SERVICE WHERE, WHERE SOMEONE WHO ISN'T UN HOMED IS GONNA GET IN A VEHICLE WITH YOU AND YOU FEEL UNSAFE. 
          I, I THINK THE VIA PRODUCT IS GONNA OFFER A SAFETY COMPONENT THAT WE ARE NOT SEEING FROM DARK. 
          AND THOSE ARE MY FINAL COMMENTS FOR NOW. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          I'D REALLY LOVE TO SEE A SAY ON TRACK AND, AND TALK ABOUT THE CONTRACT THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING AND NOT REHASH CONVERSATIONS ABOUT DART THAT WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. 
          UH, SO I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME ALREADY TODAY, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA BE HERE FOR A WHILE LONGER. 
          SO PLEASE, UH, PLEASE CONSIDER THAT FOR, FOR THE COUNCIL, FOR THE STAFF, AND FOR THE PUBLIC THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT. 
          HOWARD, I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. 
          THE, UH, THE RALLY POINTS, THEY ARE ALL CURRENT BUS STOPS FOR DART, IS THAT RIGHT? THEY ARE. 
          SO THE CONDITION OF THOSE STOPS IS BECAUSE THAT'S THE CONDITION THEY'VE BEEN IN FOR DART? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE 125,000 WORKERS COMING INTO ADDISON BY DART EVERY DAY? NOT BY DART, BUT WE DO BELIEVE WE HAVE CLOSE TO 125,000 PEOPLE THAT COME INTO ADDISON DURING THE DAY. 
          YEP. 
          MY QUESTION IS BY DART. 
          SO I'M WONDERING, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY ARE COMING IN BY DART? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          UM, IF WE DECIDED TO GET OUT OF DART THE, THE VOTERS VOTE OUT AND WE FIND OUT WE MADE A MISTAKE, CAN WE GET BACK IN? CAN WE GET BACK INTO DART? UM, THERE IS A PROCESS TO GET BACK IN. 
          OBVIOUSLY I THINK DART HAS TO AGREE TO THAT PROCESS, BUT THERE IS A PROCESS TO GET BACK IN THE SAME AS THERE IS ONE TO GET OUT. 
          I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT EXACTLY THAT PROCESS IS OFF THE TOP OF MY, IT WOULD BE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER NON-MEMBER CITY JOINING AS A MEMBER CITY. 
          IT WOULD BE INVITED, LIKE ALL THE OTHER ONES THAT JOINED IN THE LAST 43 YEARS, WE'D HAVE TO DO WHAT THEY DID. 
          HOWARD, CAN WE PLEASE? I'M SORRY. 
          COME ON. 
          I JUST, I I'M SORRY. 
          I JUST HAD TO SAY IT. 
          I KNOW YOU DID. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IF WE DON'T DO A PILOT AND WE VOTE TO GET OUT OF DART, WHAT DO WE DO ON MAY 3RD? UM, WE WOULD, IF WE DON'T DO A PILOT AND WE DON'T DO ANY, UM, OUTREACH OR ANYTHING, THEN ON MAY 3RD WE WOULD HAVE TO START DOING OUTREACH, GET PEOPLE SIGNED UP ON THE APP, GET THEM TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS, UM, ATTEMPT TO GET AHOLD OF THE PARATRANSIT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SET UP. 
          SO ALL OF THAT WOULD START THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION. 
          SO THEN THERE COULD BE PEOPLE LEFT STRANDED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THERE COULD. 
          SO IT IS, CAN, CAN YOU CLARIFY, UH, THAT ACTUALLY THE DART SERVICE WILL NOT END ON THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION? I BELIEVE SO, CORRECT. 
          I BELIEVE DART SERVICE WILL END ON THE DAY THAT WE CANVAS, WHICH I THINK IS MAY 10TH. 
          12TH. 
          MAY 12TH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, YEAH, BECAUSE DART, BECAUSE DALLAS COUNTY REQUIRES US TO ALLOW 10 DAYS YEAH. 
          TO, TO DO THAT. 
          SO, SO THERE, THERE IS A TIMEFRAME TO TO, TO YOUR POINT, HOWARD, AFTER BETWEEN THE ELECTION AND THE CANVASSING. 
          SO FOR THOSE FEW DAYS, WE COULD GEAR UP TO 10, 10 DAYS. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS, IT WAS UP TO SOME AMOUNT OF DAYS. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW. 
          DO WE HAVE AN EXACT DAY WHEN THAT, UH, ELECTION WILL BE CANVASED? YES. 
          MAY 12TH. 
          OH, IT IS AN, OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I WAS READING AND I MUST HAVE MISSED THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF WE DON'T HAVE A, A PLAN IN PLACE AND THE TEST GOING, YOU KNOW, ALREADY SIGNED UP FOR A SIX MONTH AGREEMENT HERE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE A FEW DAYS WHERE DART WOULD STILL BE SERVICING US TO GET SOMEBODY IN PLACE. 
          DO WE KNOW IF VIA CAN STEP UP IN 10 DAYS AND BE READY TO GO AFTER THAT ELECTION? OR IS THAT A QUESTION FOR THEM? I MEAN, I CAN LOOK FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ONLY HAVING 10 DAYS TO GET EVERY PARATRANSIT RIDER READY FOR THE SERVICE. 
          EVERYONE WHO RELIES ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO WORK. 
          SO WE BELIEVE IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT THAT THIS STARTS EARLIER SO THAT FOLKS CAN GET SIGNED UP AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SERVICE IS. 
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OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, UH, CURRENTLY I, I, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN ASKED, BUT IS THE $50 MILLION THE RIGHT NUMBER OR APPROXIMATELY THE RIGHT NUMBER OF WHAT IT COSTS TO GET OUT? THAT IS A ESTIMATE. 
          IT WON'T BE CALCULATED UNTIL WE ACTUALLY EXIT AND DART CALCULATE THAT NUMBER. 
          AND DO WE KNOW WHY WE OWE THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT A FEW TIMES, BUT THAT'S THE, UM, OBLIGATION. 
          SO THERE'S GENERAL OBLIGATIONS AND SPECIFIC OBLIGATIONS. 
          THE GENERAL OBLIGATION FROM DART INCLUDES DEBT AND CONTRACTS, AND IT'S PROPORTIONED BY POPULATION TO ALL THE CITIES. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, SPECIFIC OBLIGATIONS, WHICH IS RELATIVELY SMALL FOR US, FOR SPECIFIC DEBT IN DART, BUT IT IS BECAUSE OF THE DEBT THAT THAT DART HAS TAKEN ON THAT WE HAVE TO PAY ALL THIS MONEY TO DO THAT. 
          CAN I, CAN I STOP FOR JUST A MINUTE HERE, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE GOTTEN OFF TOPIC HERE. 
          WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS CONTRACT NOW, WE'RE TALKING NOW YOU'RE CAMPAIGNING FOR THE ELECTION. 
          AND I HAVE A I HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO POINT OUT SOME THINGS. 
          I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          YOU DIDN'T CORRECT CHRIS, YOU LET HIM GO. 
          I JUST WANTED TO POINT COUNTERPOINT. 
          I, I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. 
          I RESPECT YOU, BRUCE. 
          I RESPECT YOU. 
          I DON'T DISAGREE. 
          I WILL STOP. 
          I JUST THINK, BUT I LET, THAT'S A LOT OF MISSING. 
          I LET RANDY GO FOR A GOOD LITTLE WHILE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY, DARREN. 
          UM, SO FIRST I GUESS DAVID, UM, DID I MISS SOME QUESTIONS? UH, COUNCIL QUESTIONS? THE ONES THAT CHRIS ASKED, WERE THEY, WERE THEY ASKED IN ADVANCE? I DIDN'T, I THINK, I BELIEVE THEY WERE ASKED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WERE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION OR OPEN SESSION. 
          IT WAS DURING ONE OF OUR MEETINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WOULD, AND I MEAN, THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION. 
          I, I WOULD'VE PUT'EM IN THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SHAME THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ASKED THESE QUESTIONS LEFT. 
          THEY JUST LEFT RIGHT BEFORE VIA, SO THEY DON'T GET THE REAL ANSWERS. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO KNOW THE ANSWERS. 
          IT'S, IT'S, UH, CONCERNING. 
          UM, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, COUNCIL SETS WHAT THE FAIRES WILL BE. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE SAID WHAT THE SERVICE LEVEL'S GONNA BE, AND WE SAID WHAT RALLY POINTS ARE GONNA BE. 
          SO IT'S NOT STAFF DRIVING THAT AT ALL. 
          IT'S, IT'S US. 
          SO THE PROPOSAL CAME IN FOR 15 MINUTES. 
          THAT WAS THE FIRST SHOT THAT, THAT, UH, VIA PUT IN AND CIRCUIT PUT IN. 
          UM, WE CHOSE TO LOWER THAT TO 12. 
          SO WE CAN CHOOSE TO LOWER TO 10 OR RATES IT TO 20. 
          YES. 
          AND, UM, SO WHERE'S THE, WHERE IS THE FUNDING COMING FROM FOR THIS, THIS FIRST SIX MONTHS, THE STREET SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS? WHAT'S THE PLAN GOING FORWARD? WHERE IS IT COMING FROM? I BELIEVE THE PLAN IS TO CONTINUE FROM THERE UNTIL WE REPAY OUR DEBT OBLIGATION. 
          WELL, I MEAN, THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO WOULD BE IF WE, IF THE VOTERS CHOOSE TO WITHDRAW FROM DART, WE WOULD PAY THREE YEARS APPROXIMATELY FROM, FROM OUR FUND BALANCE. 
          IT IS THE EXTREME LIKELIHOOD THAT A COUNCIL AT THAT TIME WOULD CALL AN ELECTION FOR A NEW SALES TAX. 
          IT IS VERY LIKELY WHATEVER SALES TAX THAT IS WOULD OFFSET EXPENSES IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          AND AT THAT POINT, YOU'D EITHER REPAY WHAT YOU DREW DOWN IN FUND BALANCE OR NOT, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE RECURRING REVENUE MOVING FORWARD. 
          THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD THING TO PUT AS AN FAQ ON, ON OUR TRANSPORTATION ON THE, AN ADDISON TRANSIT. 
          HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR THIS? MAYBE IT'S UP THERE. 
          I, AND THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR, UH, RISEN INFORMATION. 
          SO CARROLLTON STATION WASN'T ON THERE. 
          WE CHOSE TO ADD IT BACK ON THERE. 
          I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY, THERE'S A LOT OF POPULATION ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GET ON THE SILVER LINE OR GO TO ONE OF THE OTHER CONNECTORS, THE GREEN LINE UP, OR NORTH OR SOUTH OR DCTA, UM, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD ADD BY ADDING THAT IN. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS A COUNCIL THING THAT WE, UH, WE'RE ABLE TO CHOOSE THAT. 
          YOU ALREADY ANSWERED THE QUESTION ON THE PARA PARATRANSIT RECERTIFICATION, UM, UH, ARLINGTON VOLUME. 
          I THINK THAT MAY BE A, UH, QUESTION FOR, UH, THE, UH, THE VENDOR, UH, GO PAST LICENSING THAT ONE ALSO. 
          UM, CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE THREE? THIS ONE IS, UM, ALL INCLUSIVE. 
          THERE WAS A, UM, SOMETHING ABOUT LIKE AFTER THE SIX MONTHS, THE ALL INCLUSIVE, IS THAT THE HOURLY ALL INCLUSIVE? IS THAT WHAT THAT MEANT? YES. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA BE A FLAT RATE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN SLIDE FIVE. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          YOU'RE ON THE SLIDE FIVE. 
          SO THIS WAS, UH, THIS IS GOOD FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION. 
          I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT, THAT NOT TO EXCEED IS BASED ON 13,000 HOURS OF USAGE THAT 12, 9, 16. 
          SO THEREFORE, IF WE USE LESS, THEN IT'LL COST LESS. 
          AND, UM, THE FACT THAT ARLINGTON'S VOLUME IS INCREASING, INCREASING, INCREASING, DAR WOULD LOVE FOR THE VOLUME TO INCREASE. 
          SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BAD THING. 
          WE'RE ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO TRANSPORT RIDERS. 
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UM, WHO, SO WHO'S, I'M GOING DOWN MY LIST HERE. 
          SO SORRY, I'M ALL, ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          WHO'S, WHO SPECIFIED THE, THE, UM, THE DESIGN OF THE SERVICE, UH, LIKE BEING SEVEN VEHICLES OR 10, NINE VEHICLES? WHO, WHO SPECKED THAT OUT VIA SPECK? THAT BASED ON OUR CRITERIA, WHICH IS THE AVERAGE 12 MINUTE WAIT TIME, NO LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES TO WAIT ON A PASSENGER DOOR TO DOOR SERVICE, UM, THE AMOUNT OF RALLY POINTS THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO BASED ON THOSE, THEY SPEC THAT THEY, OKAY. 
          THEY KNOW, OKAY, SO THEY, SO THEY DO THIS, THEY TRANS, THEY MODEL IT. 
          THEY KNOW THE, THE RIDERSHIP BASED ON WHAT DART'S TELLING 'EM AND WHAT, WHAT THEY SEE FROM THE OTHER, UH, UH, PLACES AROUND HERE MEET MEANING ARLINGTON AND DENTON AND FORT WORTH. 
          THEY, THEY RUN THERE. 
          UM, SO ON THESE VENDOR, OKAY, THE SERVICE LEVEL. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE SAYING WE WANT A 12 MINUTE SERVICE LEVEL. 
          WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DON'T CONSISTENTLY DON'T MEET THAT? DO WE HAVE ANY GOVERNS ON THAT? DO WE GET, UH, REBATES? DO WE, DO THEY, UH, GET, DOES OUR RATE GO DOWN OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? OBVIOUSLY THEN THAT'S A VIOLATION OF THE CONTRACT AND WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD ACCORDINGLY. 
          I MEAN, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY GIVE THEM A TIME TO TRY TO CORRECT THAT, BUT IF, IF THEY DIDN'T AND THEY WEREN'T CON, YOU KNOW, WEREN'T ABLE TO CONSISTENTLY MEET THOSE METRICS, AND I MEAN, THERE'S A, THEY'RE VIOLATING A CONTRACT. 
          I, I'M GONNA ASK THE, THE VENDOR ALSO WHAT THEY DO WITH SURE. 
          WITH OTHER CITIES, I'M SURE THAT'S THERE AS WELL. 
          UM, SO THIS IS A, A GOOD POINT ON EXTRA TOWN RESOURCES, UH, BEING IN THE TRANSPORTATION BUSINESS. 
          UM, SO DART OPERATES IN ADDISON NOW. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THE TOWN RESOURCES INVOLVED WITH DART, HOW MUCH OVERSIGHT THERE IS, UH, HOW MUCH ACCOUNTABILITY OR THERE IS TO THEM. 
          BUT I, I SEE THIS AS, YES, WE MAY HAVE SOME OF OUR RESOURCE, UH, UH, TIED TO THIS, BUT I ALSO SEE IT AS IT GIVES US A, A VISIBILITY THAT WE DON'T HAVE NOW AND AN ACCOUNTABILITY THAT WE DON'T HAVE NOW. 
          SO I, I THINK THAT TRADE OFF MAY, MAY NOT BE A BAD THING. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR NOW, AND I'LL, I'LL LOAD SOME OF THOSE BACK UP ON THE VENDOR TOO. 
          THANKS. 
          THANKS, ASHAY. 
          THANK YOU, CHRIS. 
          SOMETHING BRIEFLY I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE, UH, FOR ON THE CONTRACT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE HERE AND WATCHING TO UNDERSTAND. 
          SO EARLIER YOU SAID THAT WE CONTRACTED DOOR TO DOOR, RIGHT? YES. 
          BUT IT'S NOT REALLY DOOR TO DOOR. 
          IF I LIVE IN CARROLLTON AND I WORK OFF A BELT LINE TODAY, I CAN HOP ON A BUS AND IT'LL TAKE ME RIGHT TO THE BELT LINE STOP. 
          RIGHT? ARE WE CONTRACTING VIA TO GO OUT TO CARROLLTON AND PICK SOMEONE UP AND TAKE THEM DOOR TO DOOR? NO. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE NOT. 
          WE'RE NOT. 
          SO IT'S NOT REALLY DOOR TO DOOR. 
          IT'S DOOR TODO. 
          IF YOU ARE AN ADDISON RESIDENT, YOU'LL COME TO MY HOUSE AND YOU'LL TAKE ME TO VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, BUT IT'S NOT DOOR TO DOOR IF YOU LIVE OUTSIDE OF ADDISON. 
          AND THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN, BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING THAT PERSON TO TAKE A BUS TO ONE OF OUR RALLY POINTS, AND THEY'RE GONNA WAIT AT LEAST 12 MINUTES. 
          RIGHT? A LOT OF THESE STATIONS OR RALLY POINTS DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF COVERING. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          YES, IT'S A DART PROBLEM, BUT WE'RE ASKING OUR FOLKS THAT WE'RE INVITING INTO OUR TALENT EVERY DAY TO WAIT OUTSIDE IN THE ELEMENTS. 
          SO THAT PERSON IS HAVING TO COME FROM CARROLLTON, WAIT, AND THEN TAKE THEM TO THEIR, TO THEIR FINAL DESTINATION, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT DOOR TO DOOR. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS NOT DOOR TO DOOR SERVICE. 
          THANKS, CHRIS. 
          AND JUST TO ADD ON TO THAT, THE DOOR TO DOOR IS RESIDENTIAL ONLY? CORRECT. 
          RESIDENTIAL AND CERTAIN, CERTAIN BUSINESSES. 
          SO HIGH DENSITY, UH, RETAIL CENTERS LIKE A VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, THEY MIGHT NOT TAKE YOU RIGHT TO THE DOOR OF THE RESTAURANT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO. 
          UM, THEY WILL TAKE YOU TO THE FRONT DOOR OF OFFICE BUILDINGS, HOTELS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT LARGE DENSE AREAS, VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, ADDISON WALK, THEY COULD JUST TAKE YOU TO A POINT CLOSE TO YOUR LOCATION. 
          BUT THE CON THE CONTRACT IS FOR DOOR TO DOOR RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO EVERYTHING ELSE IS KIND OF AT THEIR DISCRETION IT SEEMS. YES, YES. 
          AND WE CAN TIGHTEN UP THAT LANGUAGE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MARLON, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING BRIEF? YEAH, THANKS MAYOR. 
          WE NEED TO GET THE BEAT UP HERE. 
          UM, I'M SORRY. 
          WE NEED TO GET VIA AND DO THEIR PRESENTATION. 
          YEAH, YEAH, I GET IT. 
          UM, I, THESE ARE JUST THOUGHTS THAT I, I HOPE WE WILL STRONGLY CONSIDER, UM, WITH THIS REPORTING THAT THEY'RE OFFERING. 
          I WILL HOPE THAT WE WILL, WE WILL, UH, MAKE THAT AVAILABLE ON SOME TYPE OF MOBILITY REPORTING, UH, WEB WEBPAGE. 
          I THINK THAT'S EXTREMELY VALUABLE, THE TYPE OF INFORMATION, UH, THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HELPFUL FOR US, BUT IT'S ALL ALSO HELPFUL FOR ANY RESIDENTS, UM, THAT WANNA REVIEW THAT. 
          THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN, UM, WELL SPOKEN EARLIER. 
          HE WAS ASKING FOR SIMILAR 
          [02:25:01]
INFORMATION, AND I THINK THAT'D BE VERY HELPFUL. 
          UM, AS FAR AS, UH, CHRIS, YOU WERE ASKING, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR INFORMATION ABOUT VIETNAM, THEY ARE A PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY ON THE NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE. 
          SO, I MEAN, YOU CAN GET THAT. 
          ANYBODY CAN GET THEIR FINANCIALS, THEY'RE ONLINE. 
          IT'S VIA, UH, IT'S THE TICKER SYMBOL IN THE NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, I WOULD SAY THIS IS, UH, TO ALL MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THAT, UM, WE HAVE, WE'RE COVERING A LOT OF GROUND, BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A FEE STRUCTURE. 
          WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE JUST KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, AND WE HAVEN'T LOCKED THAT DOWN. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA HAVE A, A FEE STRUCTURE. 
          WE, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY DISCUSSION. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING DEFINITE ABOUT THAT. 
          'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THE DISCUSSION. 
          MAYBE A FREE STRUCTURE. 
          WELL, WE, WE HAVE, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS BECAUSE THE QUESTIONS COME UP IS WHO KEEPS THE FEES? SO, RIGHT. 
          AND THE AN WE'VE RECEIVED THE ANSWER, SO IF TO, TO GET THAT ANSWER, YOU, YOU'VE GOTTA BE, UM, COMMUNICATING ABOUT SOME TYPE OF FEE STRUCTURE, WHETHER IT'S A DOLLAR, WHETHER IT'S A, I'M JUST, MY POINT IS IT IS NOT DEFINITIVE THAT WE WE'RE GOING HAVE, HAVE A FEE STRUCTURE. 
          IT HAS BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I'M JUST GONNA SHARE A THOUGHT IF I COULD. 
          AND, AND IT'S, I'M NOT REALLY, NOT A QUESTION FOR ALL THE COUNCIL RIGHT NOW. 
          IT'S JUST A THOUGHT IS WE, WE DEFINITELY, UM, IN MY MIND, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE FEE STRUCTURE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND, AND WE, WE DEFINITELY CAN'T, CAN'T OFFER THIS PRODUCT AS A FREE PRODUCT DURING THE VOTING PERIOD. 
          I THINK THAT'S ABSURD THAT THOUGHT. 
          SO I, I'M NOT PROPOSING ANY, ANY, UM, GREAT HIGH PRICE FEE STRUCTURE, BUT SOMETHING EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY REASONABLE. 
          UM, PROBABLY IN LINE WITH WHAT DART'S CHARGING RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT, BUT I, I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE OUR, YOU KNOW, US GOING FORWARD THAT WE, WE COVER THAT GROUND. 
          UM, AND, AND THOSE ARE THE THOUGHTS I WANTED TO SHARE. 
          THANK YOU, MARLON. 
          I MISSED ONE ON ADVERTISING. 
          UH, I DO, I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A PERCEPTION OF TRYING TO, UM, INFLUENCE THE VOTE IN FAVOR OF, UH, AN ALTERNATIVE TO DART. 
          I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, WE ARE VERY CAREFUL OF THAT. 
          UM, HOW DO YOU AVOID THAT? I, I CAN'T TELL YOU, BUT I KNOW HOW YOU CAN MAKE IT LOOK, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER WAY. 
          SO IT'S, I AM SENSITIVE TO THAT ALSO. 
          I WANT THIS TO BE, UM, WE'VE GOTTA BE PREPARED. 
          THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. 
          AND I THINK, SO I WISH WE STARTED EARLIER, UH, BUT I AM DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF NOT MAKING THIS A PROMOTIONAL THING FOR, UH, UH, TO, TO, UH, INFLUENCE FOLKS TO GET OUTTA DAR. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE INTENTION. 
          AND I, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT, DARREN. 
          AND THAT'S, I'D LIKE FOR US TO SEE WHAT THEIR PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS LOOK LIKE. 
          AND YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL JUST WAIT AND SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO DO WE HAVE VIA READY TO COME UP? YEAH. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR THE TIME HERE. 
          UM, UH, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, UH, CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING US HERE. 
          UM, WE'VE REALLY APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS WITH YOU ALL AND BETTER UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, UH, OR POTENTIAL CHALLENGES YOU ALL MAY BE FACING FROM A TRANSIT PERSPECTIVE. 
          WE'D APPRECIATE AN INTRODUCTION FOR THE, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD RECORD, PLEASE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, SO MAYBE, MAYBE I'LL PAUSE HERE AND JUST SAY, UM, AN INTRODUCTION AND WE'LL INTRODUCE THE TEAM HERE AS WELL. 
          UM, I'M SARISH KASAD. 
          I'M WITH THE VIA TEAM. 
          I OVERSEE ALL OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS IN THE CENTRAL US AND I SPEND QUITE A BIT OF OUR TIME OR MY TIME RATHER, UM, FOCUSING ON ALL, ALL OF OUR SERVICES IN NORTH TEXAS SPECIFICALLY. 
          I'LL PASS IT OVER TO THOMAS. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          UH, THANKS AGAIN FOR HAVING US BACK. 
          MY NAME'S THOMAS RITTER. 
          I AM THE LOCAL TEXAS PARTNERSHIPS LEAD FOR VIA. 
          GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. 
          MY NAME IS AARON GIBA. 
          I'M THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR VIA HERE AT OUR TEXAS REGION. 
          I'VE LIVED JUST A FEW MINUTES FROM HERE. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, WE JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, DURING THE WORKING SESSION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE, WE REALLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THE QUESTIONS, THE CONCERNS FROM THE COUNCIL, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO PRESENT WHAT THE SOLUTION IS THAT YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERING TONIGHT. 
          UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE VISUALLY GETTING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THIS SERVICE, UH, WOULD LOOK LIKE POTENTIALLY SHOULD THIS PARTNERSHIP MOVE FORWARD. 
          UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU, AND I THINK ALL, ALL OF YOU KNOW WHO VIA IS AT THIS POINT, BUT WE ARE A COMPANY THAT, UH, SPECIALIZES IN PROVIDING BESPOKE TRANSIT SOLUTIONS TO ALL OF OUR PARTNERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          UM, WE REALLY THINK THAT TRANSIT IS LOCAL. 
          UM, IT SHOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, ADMINISTRATED LOCALLY, AND IT SHOULD REALLY CONNECT REGIONALLY. 
          I THINK THESE ARE BOTH TWO THINGS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT THAT CAN CONNECT TO EACH OTHER QUITE WELL. 
          UM, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH A NUMBER OF PARTNERS HERE IN NORTH TEXAS, UH, ACROSS VERY LARGE TRANSIT AGENCIES LIKE TRINITY METRO, UM, DCTA, BUT WE ALSO WORK WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, COMMUNITIES THAT ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT TRANSIT LOCALLY, LIKE ARLINGTON AND THIS, UM, UH, THE CITY OF PLANO, UM, GRAND PRAIRIE AS WELL. 
          SO ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO PRESENT TO YOU A, A VISION OF WHAT THIS TRANSIT SYSTEM MAY LOOK LIKE HERE IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON. 
          I'M GONNA PASS IT OVER TO THOMAS TO, UH, PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE CONVERSATION. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU, SARISH. 
          UM, JUST AS A 
          [02:30:01]
STARTING POINT, MY PLAN TODAY IS REALLY TO WALK YOU THROUGH OUR VISION FOR A SOLUTION. 
          AGAIN, OUR, OUR GOAL HERE IS TO INTRODUCE WHAT VIA HAS CONTEMPLATED, UM, IN RESPONSE TO THE PROPOSAL AND LOOKING AT THE SERVICE POTENTIAL HERE. 
          SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH A NUMBER OF THEMES. 
          UM, JUST AS A STARTING POINT THOUGH, THE FIRST THING I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT INTRODUCING A NEW SERVICE, THE CORE PILLAR THAT WE'RE THINKING OF IS CONTINUITY. 
          UM, AND TO DOUBLE CLICK ON THAT, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT CONTINUITY, THAT IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT FOR THE PARATRANSIT COMMUNITY. 
          SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE PARATRANSIT SERVICE TO ELIGIBLE RIDERS. 
          UM, THOSE RIDERS WILL CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH THE SERVICE THE SAME WAY THEY ARE TODAY, IN THE SENSE THAT WE WILL PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE 13 DART MEMBER CITIES. 
          MEANING WE CAN TAKE AN INDIVIDUAL FROM ADDISON DIRECTLY TO THEIR DESTINATION IN ANY OF THOSE OTHER DART MEMBER CITIES. 
          NUMBER TWO, UM, SHIFTING TO JUST THE LENS FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WE HAVE DEVELOPED A TOWN WIDE ZONE, AS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED THIS EVENING. 
          IN ADDITION, UM, THE TOWN WIDE ZONE IS REALLY FOCUSED ON PROVIDING CONVENIENCE AND FLEXIBILITY. 
          SO INDIVIDUALS WILL BE ABLE TO PULL OUT THEIR SMARTPHONE, BOOK A RIDE, UM, RECEIVE A PROPOSAL, AND TAKE AN ON DEMAND RIGHT EXPERIENCE RIGHT THERE. 
          THEY CAN CALL IN IF THEY PREFER. 
          UM, THEY'LL DO SO ON A CUSTOM BRANDED DEDICATED FLEET. 
          AND IN ADDITION, THE THIRD PIECE THAT I'VE HIGHLIGHTED HERE IS THAT THERE WILL BE RALLY POINTS. 
          SO SPECIFICALLY FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHO'S RELIANT ON THAT TOWN WIDE ZONE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN ALSO ACCESS THE REGIONAL NETWORK. 
          SO WE HAVE FOLLOWED THE TOWN'S LEAD, UM, IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT DIFFERENT RALLY POINTS. 
          SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THAT AN INDIVIDUAL CAN GO TO THOSE RALLY POINTS, OUR SERVICE WILL TAKE THEM DIRECTLY TO THAT SPECIFIC LOCATION, AND THEY WILL THEN BE ABLE TO TRANSFER TO THE DART NETWORK. 
          AND AS ASHLEY MENTIONED, THOSE RALLY POINTS HAVE BEEN STRATEGICALLY CHOSEN, UM, TO PROVIDE CONTINUITY IN THE SENSE THAT ALL OF THE FIXED DROP BUS LINES THAT CURRENTLY RUN THROUGH ADDISON HAVE AN ASSOCIATED RALLY POINT, UM, LINKED TO THEM. 
          SO I PUT A SUMMARY HERE, JUST AGAIN, TALKING THROUGH THAT. 
          I DON'T NEED TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN COVERED, UH, CONSIDERABLY TONIGHT. 
          BUT THESE ARE JUST THE SEVEN RALLY POINTS THAT WE HAVE MAPPED INTO OUR, OUR SERVICE PLAN. 
          THE BIG GOAL IS REALLY PROVIDING THAT REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY TO EVERYONE. 
          UM, ON THE THEME OF REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY, WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW, AND THEN WE'LL CLICK ON A RECORDING HERE JUST TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT THAT EXPERIENCE IS LIKE. 
          SO I'M GONNA LET SARS RUN THROUGH THAT QUICKLY. 
          WE, UH, WE HEARD QUITE, UH, CLEARLY FROM THE, THE MEMBERS, UH, OF THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY HERE, THAT REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY CONTINUES TO BE QUITE IMPORTANT AND GO PASS CONTINUES TO BE THE ANCHOR OF THAT REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY. 
          SO WE WANTED TO PROVIDE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF HOW THIS REGIONAL CONNECTION ACTUALLY WORKS IN GO PASS. 
          VIA IS NATIVELY INTEGRATED WITH GO PASS. 
          WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM VERY CLOSELY IN A NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, THERE IS NOTHING FROM OUR STANDPOINT THAT WILL PREVENT US FROM DOING, UM, A SIMILAR INTEGRATION HERE IN THE, IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON. 
          AND SO WE HAVE AL ALREADY, YOU KNOW, HAD SOFT CONVERSATIONS, UH, WITH THE TECHNOLOGY COMPANY BEHIND GO PAST TO, TO START, UM, THE, UH, THE IDEA AND, AND REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS WOULD, UH, TAKE. 
          AND WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE'D HAVE THIS INTEGRATION READY TO GO. 
          UM, SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS CONTRACT. 
          UM, IF YOU CAN PLACE PREY ON THE VIDEO, I CAN QUICKLY VOICE IT OVER. 
          IT'S THIS, UH, IMAGE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THAT YOU'LL SEE START TO MOVE, UM, IF WE CAN GET THAT TO WORK. 
          AS YOU'LL SEE HERE, I'M KIND OF SCROLLING, UM, IN THIS VIDEO RECORDING IN THE GO PASS APP, UM, DIRECTLY, I'M ABLE TO, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER JOURNEY, UM, HAVE A TICKETING WALLET. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT I'VE ALREADY PURCHASED TWO TICKETS FOR TRINITY METRO ON DEMAND, WHICH IS, UH, THE TRANSIT SERVICE IN FORT WORTH. 
          UM, JUST LIKE ANY JOURNEY PLANNING THAT I DO, I DIDN'T ENTER WHERE I'M GOING TO, UM, FROM WHERE I AM. 
          SO I HAVE A SAVED ADDRESS CALLED HOME. 
          I PURPOSELY CHOSE A PRETTY LONG DESTINATION. 
          SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE A CONNECTION BETWEEN MULTIPLE FIXED ROUTES AND MICROT TRANSIT AS A SINGLE PLAN JOURNEY DIRECTLY WITHIN GO PASS. 
          AND AS YOU'LL SEE, UM, A PROPOSAL COMES UP THAT CONNECTS ME FROM TRINITY METRO ON DEMAND DIRECTLY TO THE FIX ROUTE NETWORK JOURNEY, PLANNING THAT ENTIRE THING, UM, ENTIRE TRIP ALONG THE WAY. 
          SO IT'LL TELL ME EXACTLY HOW LONG I WOULD BE POTENTIALLY WAITING FOR ETERNITY METRO ON DEMAND RIDE, WHAT THAT TRANSFER LOOKS LIKE, WHERE THE TRANSFER IS, HOW MANY STOPS I'D BE GOING ON THE BUS. 
          AGAIN, I INTENTIONALLY CHOSE SOMETHING QUITE LONG IN TERMS OF A JOURNEY TO HAVE THE, THE VISUAL OF THE NUMBER OF STOPS THAT YOU COULD, UH, SORT OF SEE THROUGH THE GO PASS APP. 
          AND ONCE I'M READY TO BOOK A TICKET, I WILL CHOOSE ON THAT JOURNEY. 
          IT'LL ALLOW ME TO BUY TICKETS DIRECTLY THROUGH THE APP. 
          I HAD A TICKET ALREADY PURCHASED IN MY WALLET, SO I JUST ACTIVATE THAT THROUGH THE APP AGAIN AND I'M ABLE TO THEN BOOK THE RIDE, UH, FOR MICRO TRANSIT AND THEN CONNECTING INTO FIXED ROUTES DIRECTLY IN THE TRINITY METRO, UH, RATHER THE GO PASS APP FOR THE TRINITY METRO SERVICE. 
          UM, HERE IN THE BACKGROUND, IT'S LOOKING AT THE VIA TECHNOLOGY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE CLOSEST DRIVER IS TO BE ABLE TO DISPATCH THAT DRIVER TO PICK ME UP AGAIN DIRECTLY WITHIN THE GO PASS APP. 
          AND FROM THERE I'M ABLE TO ACTUALLY TRACK THE VEHICLE, SEE THE NAME OF THE DRIVER, THE LICENSE PLATE, THE TYPE OF VEHICLE, UM, AND TRACK THAT RIDE, UH, ON, ON A LIVE BASIS AS WELL. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE AS I ZOOM IN OVER HERE ON MY PICKUP, AND I KIND OF SHOW YOU WHERE THE DESTINATION IS EVENTUALLY GOING TO BE. 
          I'LL ZOOM BACK IN IN A MOMENT HERE, UM, TOWARDS MY ORIGINAL, UH, PICKUP, AND YOU'LL SEE THE ICON OF THE VEHICLE THERE. 
          UM, THAT'S A LIVE TRACKING OF THAT VEHICLE AS IT MOVES TOWARDS ME. 
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SO AS A RIDER, I'LL BE ABLE TO MONITOR MY RIDE, PAY FOR MY RIDE, TRACK MY RIDE, AND CONNECT TO THE REST OF THE, UH, KINDA THE BROADER REGIONAL SYSTEM THROUGH THIS APP. 
          GREAT. 
          I'M GONNA PASS IT BACK OVER TO THOMAS TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          I WENT A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR AHEAD. 
          UM, THERE WE GO. 
          I'M GONNA ACTUALLY PASS IT OVER TO AARON TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OPERATIONS. 
          THANKS EVERYONE. 
          AGAIN, AS, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, CONTINUITY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US, HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT NO RIDERS LEFT BEHIND. 
          UM, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE A FLEET OF WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES. 
          WE DO OPERATE PARA TRANSIT SERVICE AND MANY COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE US INCLUDING HERE IN NORTH TEXAS. 
          IN FORT WORTH, WE OPERATE APPROXIMATELY A THOUSAND PARATRANSIT TRIPS PER DAY, PER WEEKDAY, UH, IN THE CITY OF FORT WORTH. 
          AND WE DO THAT WITH OUR EXPERT TEAM OF DRIVERS THAT ARE FDA COMPLIANCE. 
          UM, SO THEY'RE FULLY DRUG TESTED BEFORE AND DURING SERVICE, UH, ON A RANDOM BASIS, AS WELL AS, AGAIN, TRAINED TO ASSIST PARATRANSIT RIDERS SPECIFICALLY WITH THEIR NEEDS AND THEIR TYPE OF MO SPECIFIC MOBILITY, UH, NEEDS IN A FULLY DOOR-TO-DOOR SERVICE. 
          AS MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, THIS CAN BE BOOKED EITHER ON AN APP OR THROUGH, UH, CALLING IN. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE SOME FUNCTIONALITY RELATED TO LIKE CAREGIVER FUNCTIONALITY, SO THAT IF SOMEONE IS A CAREGIVER FOR A PARATRANSIT RIDER, THEY CAN MONITOR AND BOOK RIDES FOR THAT RIDER. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THOSE RIDES. 
          SO ANYONE CAN PROVIDE AN APP RATING, UH, SIMILAR TO LIKE A FIVE STAR SYSTEM THAT YOU SEE IN OTHER APPS, OR CAN CALL INTO OUR CUSTOMER SUPPORT AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK, UH, POSITIVE, UM, OR OTHERWISE ABOUT ANY RIDE THAT THEY HAVE. 
          AS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S A SMOOTH TRANSITION FOR ALL CURRENT PARATRANSIT RIDERS. 
          UM, AS ASHLEY MENTIONED, UH, WE HOPE TO GET THAT INFORMATION FROM, UH, FROM DART AND OTHER CURRENT PROVIDERS. 
          AND IF NOT, UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, LAUNCH A FULL CAMPAIGN THAT INCLUDE CALLING RIDERS. 
          UM, DIRECTLY WE CAN HAVE OUTREACH TO CERTAIN HIGH VOLUME, UH, ORIGINS AND DESTINATIONS. 
          SO, UH, SENIOR CITIZENS, UH, CENTERS, UH, LARGE MEDICAL FACILITIES. 
          YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON, HAPPY TO WORK, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT, WHEREVER YOU SEE A LOT OF PARATRANSIT DEMAND, WE CAN GO PHYSICALLY TO THOSE PLACES AND MAKE SURE THAT WRITERS ARE AWARE OF THE SERVICE IS SIGNED UP, UH, CORRECTLY. 
          AND, AND THEN I THINK NEXT IS BACK TO TOM. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, SO DISTILLING THIS INTO A FEW MORE TAKEAWAYS, WHAT DOES THIS REALLY MEAN FOR THE RIDERS? UM, FIRST OF ALL, OUR GOAL IN ENVISIONING A SERVICE PLAN HERE IS TO PROVIDE REALLY HIGH QUALITY ACCESS. 
          AND, AND SPECIFICALLY WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT FROM THE LENS OF ON DEMAND TRANSIT. 
          SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE MODEL, THE VARIOUS APPROACHES, DOOR TO DOOR. 
          UM, WHAT THAT MEANS THOUGH, FROM A RIDER STANDPOINT, WHEN YOU PULL OUT THAT SMARTPHONE APP OR YOU CALL IN AND YOU BOOK YOUR RIDE, THE RIDE IS COMING DIRECTLY TO YOU. 
          SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO A FIXED ROUTE STOP AND BEING TOLD YOU NEED TO WALK A MANDATED DISTANCE. 
          UM, SO THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF, OF REAL ACCESS, UH, BENEFIT THERE. 
          ADDITIONALLY, VERY MUCH RELATED IS THE FLEXIBILITY COMPONENT. 
          UM, YOU DON'T NEED TO PLAN YOUR DAY AROUND A, A FIXED SCHEDULE. 
          YOU ARE BASICALLY SAYING, I NEED THE RIDE NOW. 
          YOU MAKE THE REQUEST. 
          AND AGAIN, IT'S YOUR TRAVEL REQUEST THAT DICTATES THE, THE ACTUAL START FOR THAT RIDE. 
          THE NEXT PIECE, AFFORDABILITY. 
          THIS IS PUBLIC TRANSIT. 
          UM, TO BE VERY CLEAR, ULTIMATELY THIS IS A MUNICIPAL POLICY DECISION. 
          WE WILL ADHERE TO THAT FAIR POLICY THAT YOU INSTITUTE, UM, TO A T ANY FAIR REVENUE THAT WE COLLECT WILL GO BACK TO YOU. 
          UM, AND FINALLY, EASE OF USE. 
          WE WANT THIS TO BE VERY CONVENIENT. 
          WE WANT THIS TO BE AN ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE. 
          THAT'S A, A REALLY BIG THING IN ANY OF THE CITIES, UH, TOWNS, COUNTIES THAT WE LAUNCH IN. 
          WE WANT THIS TO BE A BENEFIT FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, TO THAT POINT, ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS ACTUALLY IN LAUNCHING ANY SERVICE IS DEVELOPING A LOOK AND FEEL THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY WE'RE WORKING WITH. 
          WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE, THESE ARE PURELY MOCKUPS. 
          THESE ARE SOME PRELIMINARY THOUGHTS. 
          THE NAME AS WELL IS, IS A BRAINSTORMING EXERCISE JUST TO SHOW YOU THE SORT OF STEPS THAT WE TAKE TO BRING THE, THE VISION TO LIFE. 
          SO FOR THE SAKE OF THIS MOCKUP, WE USED ADDISON ORBIT AS THE NAME, AND WE CAME UP WITH A HYPOTHETICAL LOGO. 
          UM, WE TRIED TO PICK VEHICLE WRAPS THAT PLAY WITH THE, THE CITY OR THE TOWN'S COLOR SCHEME. 
          UM, AGAIN, WE'LL FINE TUNE ALL OF THIS IN COORDINATION WITH YOU ALL TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES REALLY MATCH THE LOOK THAT YOU'RE MOST INTERESTED IN. 
          BUT, UM, I, I FIND THIS TO BE A REALLY FUN PIECE OF LAUNCHING ANY SERVICE. 
          THE NEXT PIECE, BEYOND JUST DESIGNING A, A VEHICLE AND A FLEET, UM, LOOK THAT MATCHES THE, THE TOWN'S PREFERENCES. 
          THERE'S ALSO A CORE FOCUS ON ENGAGEMENT. 
          UM, VIA IS VERY CAREFUL IN THIS REGARD. 
          NUMBER ONE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MATERIALS WE'RE DEVELOPING HAVE THE RIGHT MESSAGING. 
          SO WE'VE PUT A FEW SAMPLES HERE. 
          UM, THE NUMBER ONE GOAL WITH OUR MARKETING AND ENGAGEMENT EFFORT, IT'S EDUCATION. 
          IF WE'RE LAUNCHING A NEW SERVICE, WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT SERVICE WORKS. 
          SO THAT IS REALLY OUR REALLY TOP, TOP PRIORITY. 
          SO 
          [02:40:01]
IN ADDITION TO DEVELOPING MATERIALS THAT ARE EASY TO FOLLOW AND, YOU KNOW, RUN THE RIDERS THROUGH ALL THE STEPS THAT YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO CONSIDER ABOUT THIS CHANGE AND HOW TO ENGAGE WITH THE NEW SYSTEM, WE'RE ALSO GONNA GO IN PERSON. 
          UM, AS AN EXAMPLE, WE CAN WORK WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HOST PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE FOCUSED AGAIN, ON THE EDUCATION FRONT, HERE'S THE APP, HERE'S WHAT THE BOOKING EXPERIENCE LOOKS LIKE, HERE ARE BASIC PARAMETERS, SERVICE HOURS, HERE'S HOW YOU DO A REGIONAL TRIP. 
          ALL OF THOSE DETAILS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO JUST USE OF THE SYSTEM, THAT'S WHERE WE SPEND A LOT OF OUR TIME. 
          UM, AND WE'RE GONNA LEAVE IT THERE. 
          WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS, BUT I, I WANNA JUST ON AN ENDING NOTE, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          I KNOW THIS IS A, THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS. 
          UM, FROM YOUR SIDE, AS YOU EXPLORE OPTIONS, WHAT WE WANT TO JUST REITERATE IS THAT WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT AN OPTION THAT WOULD DELIVER CONTINUITY OF SERVICE. 
          UM, IN COMING UP WITH THAT OPTION, WE HAVE REALLY FOCUSED ON ACCESSIBILITY, INCLUSIVITY. 
          WE WANT NO RIDER TO BE LEFT BEHIND. 
          WE WANT THE EXPERIENCE TO BE CONVENIENT FOR ALL. 
          SO WE WANNA FACILITATE REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY. 
          WE WANT TO FACILITATE A JOURNEY PLANNING EXPERIENCE THAT IS REALLY POSITIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND FINALLY, WE WANT IT TO FEEL CUSTOMIZED. 
          WE WANT IT TO MATCH THE VISION THAT YOU HAVE FOR WHAT TRANSIT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN ADDISON. 
          UM, SO THANKS AGAIN. 
          WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. 
          DARREN. 
          SO YOU ALREADY ADDRESSED THE, THE, UH, PARATRANSIT, UH, TRANSITION. 
          UM, I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION, UM, WHAT'S YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH DOING THIS WITH ANOTHER DART CITY? BUT THERE'S NOT BEEN ONE, SO THAT'S NOT A GOOD ANSWER WITH OTHER TRANSIT AGENCIES, IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL GONNA BE DIFFERENT. 
          SO, UH, YOU DID MENTION YOUR PLAN B ALSO, MEANING REACHING OUT, MAKING PHONE CALLS, UM, AND JUST YOU'VE GOTTA BE DILIGENT ABOUT THAT TO GET ALL THAT THROUGH. 
          UM, ON YOUR, UM, THAT WAS YOUR SLIDE 10, RIGHT? UM, I DON'T LIKE ORBIT, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. 
          I THINK OTHER PEOPLE MAY TELL YOU THE SAME, UM, BUT YOU DON'T WANT A RECOVERING IT GUY TELLING YOU HOW TO DO CREATIVE THINGS, SO THAT'S A GOOD THING. 
          UM, SO WHAT ABOUT DAILY RIDERS WHO RIDE, WHO ARE USED TO FIXED ROUTES? OKAY, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE USED TO FIXED ROUTES, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO A RIDE SHARE EVERY TIME. 
          CAN THEY SET UP A SCHEDULE? HOW DOES THAT WORK? HOW DO YOU MAKE IT EASY FOR THEM? YEAH, IT, IT'S TRULY A POLICY DECISION FOR, UM, THE TOWN OF ADDISON TO DETERMINE WHETHER THIS IS GOING TO BE A PURELY ON-DEMAND SERVICE OR SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PRE-SCHEDULED. 
          UM, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS TRADEOFFS BETWEEN THE TWO AS WE THINK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY UP TO, UH, UP THE TOWN. 
          I THINK YOU MENTIONED, UH, UH, AND I, ASHLEY MAY HAVE MENTIONED IT IN HER PRESENTATION EVOLUTION INTO FIXED ROUTES, HAVING SOME OF THOSE AS WELL. 
          ONE OF THE DARK ROUTES IS JUST LIKE A CIRCULATOR GOES UP LIKE 2 35 THAT GOES UP ADDISON ROAD. 
          UM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE FOR US. 
          UM, SO WHAT ABOUT YOUR S YOUR SLA, YOUR SERVICE LEVEL? WHAT, HOW DOES THAT, HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT CURRENTLY WITH OTHER TOWNS, OTHER CITIES? YEAH, WE, UH, WE TRACK THE DATA VERY REGULARLY AND WE ARE PRESENTING IT TO OUR PARTNERS, UM, ON A, ON A WEEKLY BASIS TO UNDERSTAND TARGETS VERSUS THE ACTUAL, LET'S SAY WAIT TIMES OR, UM, STATISTICS THAT MATTER MOST TO, UM, YOU KNOW, RIDERS, HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE ON THE ROAD OR WHAT TIMES, HOW MANY PARATRANSIT TRIPS ARE WE SERVING. 
          WE WOULD WORK WITH YOU ALL TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE, UH, UH, KIND OF BENCHMARKS ARE. 
          AND WE'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF THESE. 
          AND IN TERMS OF WAIT TIME IN PARTICULAR, AND WE'D WANNA PROVIDE THE TRANSPARENCY TO YOU AS TO EVERY WEEK, WEEK BY WEEK, UM, HOW ARE WE SEEING AND HOW ARE WE TRACKING AGAINST THOSE KPIS ON A, ON A ROLLING BASIS? SO IF YOU'RE NOT MA MA MEETING THE SERVICE LEVELS THAT WE HAVE IN THE AGREEMENT, WHAT HAPPENS? YEAH, WE WOULD, UH, WE WOULD WORK WITH YOU IN PRESENT OPTIONS AND WE'D PRESENT THE DATA AS WELL. 
          SO LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, THE WAIT TIMES ARE, YOU KNOW, 15 MINUTES VERSUS 13 MINUTES, UM, WE WOULD PRESENT THE DATA AND HAVE ALL THE TRANSPARENCY YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT IS. 
          UM, MAYBE THERE WAS A CERTAIN EVENT HERE IN, IN THE, IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON THAT INCREASED THE DEMAND FOR THAT WEEK AND THE NEXT WEEK WE THINK IT'LL NORMALIZE. 
          UM, OR MAYBE THERE'S MORE, UM, DEMAND THAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE MORE RIDER WANNA WRITE THE SERVICE. 
          UH, WE'LL, WE'LL COME TO YOU WITH ALTERNATIVES AND OPTIONS TO GET THIS LEVEL BACK DOWN TO, TO THE KPI OR, OR CONSIDER ALTERNATIVES WITH THE TECHNOLOGY OR WITH OPERATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I, I, I'M HEARING THAT IF WE'RE NOT MEETING THE SERVICE LEVELS, IT MEANS WE HAVE TO PAY MORE FOR MORE RESOURCES TO MEET THE SERVICE LEVELS. 
          THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE. 
          UM, I THINK, AGAIN, THIS IS A POLICY DECISION, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IF THERE WAS A, UM, A, UH, A WAY THAT WE COULD THINK ABOUT, LET'S SAY THE, THE VEHICLES WOULD BE ROUTED SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP MORE PASSENGERS MORE QUICKLY, BUT MAYBE THE FOLKS ON THE VEHICLES WOULD BE ON THE VEHICLES FOR A SLIGHTLY LONGER TIME, UM, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S WAYS TO KIND OF WORK AROUND, UM, BUILDING TOWARDS YOUR KPIS AND, UM, DOING THAT, NOT THROUGH JUST INCREASING A CONTRACT VALUE, BUT WE, WE'D WANNA REALLY COME TO YOU ALL WITH THE OPTIONS, UM, ON THE TABLE AND LET YOU ALL DECIDE AS A, AS A POLICY DECISION FOR THE CITY. 
          SO I, WALK ME THROUGH THIS. 
          'CAUSE I, I WANT, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE CONNECTION RALLY POINT TO ME IS IMPORTANT. 
          SO THAT FRICTION TO OUR RIDERS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M SENSITIVE TO. 
          I I WANT THEM TO HAVE THE BEST EXPERIENCE. 
          NOW I KNOW ONCE THEY GET ON ADDISON TRANSIT, IT'S GONNA BE THE BEST EXPERIENCE, BUT IT, IT'S THAT, THAT CONNECTION THERE. 
          SO SOMEBODY'S OVER IN GARLAND, OKAY. 
          AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA PICK THEIR, THEIR BUS ARE GOING ON AND THEN RIGHT NOW THEY, THEY HAVE TO PICK THE ROUTE SO THAT THE, UH, THE SHUTTLE, THE, UM, 
          [02:45:01]
VIA TRANSIT, IT'S ADDISON TRANSIT'S READY FOR THEM WHEN THEY GET HERE. 
          SO THEY, THEY COME DOWN SPRING VALLEY AND THEY'RE GONNA GET DROPPED OFF AT THEIR, AT THEIR LOCATION. 
          WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES, HOW DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? YEAH, THE JOURNEY PLANNING WOULD BE DONE EITHER THROUGH THE VIA APP DIRECTLY. 
          SO THERE WILL BE A VIA APP AVAILABLE THAT IS WHITE LABELED. 
          IT WOULD HAVE THE TOWN OF ADDISON'S BRANDING, IT WOULD HAVE, UM, THE LOGO OF THE, THAT WE CHOOSE EVENTUALLY FOR THE SERVICE. 
          AND YOU COULD USE THAT APP TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION DIRECTLY. 
          AND SO YOU'D BE ABLE TO TRACK THE BUSES AND TRACK THE DROP OFF TIME AND IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY BOOK YOU A, A RIDE ON THE, ON, ON THE VIA MICRO TRANSIT VEHICLE TO BE ABLE TO ARRIVE THERE AT THE SAME TIME THAT YOU ARE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING ABOUT. 
          YEAH. 
          IS, SO IF I'M GONNA BOOK A, A BUS AND I'M ON THE BUS AND, AND I'VE, AND NOW I KNOW ADDISON TRANSIT KNOWS THAT'S PART OF THE JOURNEY. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO THIS, THIS IS ALL SEAMLESS IN IN THE GO PASS OR IN VIA APP, CORRECT? YES. 
          IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA DO, UM, IT'S GONNA LOOK AT TRAFFIC, IT'S GONNA LOOK AT TIMING AND IT'S GONNA TRY TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION AS SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO I'M GETTING THERE AT UH, 7 0 5 AND IT'S JUST TARGETING TO HAVE THE VIA THE ADDISON TRANSIT THERE AT 7 0 5? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SIMILARLY GOING THE OTHER DIRECTION. 
          SO YOU'RE GOING TO THE RALLY POINT, IT'S, IT, WILL IT CALCULATE TRAVEL TIME SO THAT TRYING TO ARRIVE THERE WHEN THE BUS IS THERE? 'CAUSE IT KNOWS WHERE THE BUSES ARE? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          UM, THE, THE VIA APP AND THE GO PASS APP DOES LIVE TRACKING OF BUSES AND SO WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE BUS IS. 
          IT WILL CALCULATE THE AMOUNT OF TRANSFER TIME. 
          O OBVIOUSLY WE CANNOT CONTROL THE, THE BUS, UH, TIMING IN TERMS OF WHEN, YOU KNOW, A BUS GETS LATE OR EARLY AT, AT A, TO A CERTAIN STOP. 
          BUT WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO, OR THE TECHNOLOGY WILL DO ITS BEST TO, UM, CREATE THAT TRANSFER TIME WITH A REASONABLE AMOUNT, ENOUGH TIME TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT TRANSFER. 
          BUT UM, YOU KNOW, TRY TO MINIMIZE THAT, THAT WAITING PERIOD BETWEEN THE TWO LEGS OF A JOURNEY. 
          SO IF IT'S RAINING AND THE BUS IS THREE MINUTES DOWN THE ROAD, DOES THE, UH, ADDISON TRANSIT RIDER WAIT? UH, A DRIVER WAIT WITH THE RIDER IN THE CAR? TYPICALLY NOT. 
          UM, THIS WOULD BE A SITUATION WHERE WE WOULD NOT WANT TO NECESSARILY STOP A VEHICLE AND PREVENT IT FROM PICKING UP OTHER PASSENGERS THAT HAVE ALSO REQUESTED RIDES, THEREBY DELAYING OTHER RIDES. 
          AND SO JUST LIKE ANY SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FIXED ROUTE NETWORK WHERE YOU'RE GETTING OFF A BUS AND YOU'RE GONNA TRANSFER TO ANOTHER BUS, YOU MAY BE ASKED TO WAIT. 
          I, I THINK THE SAME SITUATION WOULD APPLY FOR A THAT IS A GOOD POINT. 
          UH, I MEAN, MANY, MANY TIMES I, I RIDE THE BUS OVER TO MY OFFICE, I'VE GOTTA WALK AND WAIT FOR THE NEXT BUS, MAYBE 20 MINUTES, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MORE. 
          SO IT'S NOT LIKE WAITING IN BETWEEN STOPS IS UNUSUAL FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT. 
          SO FOR RIGHT NOW, UM, SO WHAT ABOUT ARLINGTON VOLUME? WHAT'S, WHAT'S THAT LIKE? TELL ME ABOUT THAT. 
          YEAH, I'M GONNA PASS IT OVER TO AARON, ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE REASON I ASK JUST FOR ANYBODY ELSE WANTING TO KNOW IS THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD PICTURE OF WHAT REALITY IS NOW AND WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE IF, IF WE GO THIS DIRECTION IN THE FUTURE. 
          YEAH. 
          THE ARLINGTON SERVICE DOES BETWEEN 1800 AND 2000 COMPLETED RIDES EVERY WEEKDAY CURRENTLY, AND IS, UH, SLIGHTLY LESS ON SATURDAYS, AND IT'S CLOSED ON SUNDAYS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE, HOW ARE YOU MEETING THE SERVICE LEVEL THERE? HOW, WHAT'S THE SCORE ON THAT ONE? YEAH, OVERALL, I'D SAY IT'S GOOD THOUGH. 
          WAIT TIMES ARE ABOUT 15 MINUTES, WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE TARGETING. 
          SO THAT'S IN LINE WITH THEIR KPI. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE, THE MET, WHAT WE CALL MET DEMAND NUMBER PERCENT OF THE TIME PEOPLE ARE GETTING A SEATS IS BETWEEN 96 AND 97%. 
          WHAT WAS THAT? I MISSED THAT PART. 
          YEAH, SO IT'S, UH, NUM THE NUMBER OF PROPOSALS, PERCENTAGE OF PROPOSALS WE GET FOR THE REQUEST IS 96 TO 97% OF FOLKS WOULD HAVE A SEAT AVAILABLE FOR, OKAY. 
          ME. 
          OKAY. 
          SO SOMEBODY REQUEST TO RIDE AND THERE'S NOT ONE AVAILABLE. 
          THAT MEANS THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? THAT'S THAT TWO OR 3% THAT DIDN'T MAKE, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          UM, GO PAST LICENSING INTEGRATION. 
          THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT SOMEBODY HAD. 
          UH, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          I ALREADY ASSUME, WELL NOT ASSUME, BUT I HEARD THAT IT'S, IT'S ALREADY A CHECKBOX. 
          YEAH, WE, WE, WE HAVE NO CONCERNS OVER THE LICENSING. 
          WE, WE'VE DONE THIS IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UM, LOCATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS GUYS. 
          RANDY, THANK YOU. 
          UH, JUST TO ADDRESS ANOTHER ONE OF THE FEARS THAT THEY HAD, WILL YOUR VEHICLES BE STOPPING IN A BUSY ROAD AND MAKING PEOPLE GET OUT AND GETTING HIT BY OTHER VEHICLES? THE, THE STOPPING AREAS FOR VEHICLES ARE ACTUALLY DETERMINED BOTH BY VIA IN THE CITY OR THE TOWN IN CONJUNCTION. 
          AND SO WE WOULD WANNA WORK WITH YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THESE SAFE STOP POINTS ARE, AND WE WOULD PREVENT VEHICLES FROM STOPPING AT ANYWHERE THAT IS UNSAFE. 
          YOUR SAFETY IS A TOP PRIORITY OF YOURS, IS IT NOT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YOU, UM, OUR RALLY POINTS RIGHT NOW THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH ARE BASICALLY THEY'RE, WELL, THEY'RE BASED ON CURRENT DART ROUTES AND THEY'RE CURRENT. 
          SO IF, IF THE DART SERVICE CHANGES, WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO CHANGE WITH THAT. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO IF ANY OF THESE RALLY POINTS BECAUSE OF SERVICE CHANGES, BUT IF, IF WE WITHDRAW AND THEY CHANGE SOME OF THIS, WE'RE NOT LOCKED INTO THESE SEVEN RALLY POINTS, WE CAN, WE CAN ADJUST TO, TO FIT WHERE DART SERVICE IS CHANGING TO, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          WE CAN DO THAT WITHIN HOURS. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A 30 DAY PROCESS, IT'S HOURS. 
          CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ARE THESE VEHICLES HYBRID? 
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UH, THE, WE HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT VEHICLES, SO I'D LEAVE IT FOR THE CITY TO DETERMINE WHAT THE FINAL VEHICLES MAY LOOK LIKE. 
          THE CIENA'S THAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE, ON THE IMAGE HERE ARE HYBRID VEHICLES. 
          YES, THEY ARE. 
          HYBRID VEHICLE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING. 
          CORRECT. 
          IF THE ONES THAT THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING HERE ARE A HYBRID VEHICLE. 
          YEAH. 
          THESE TOYOTA SIENNAS ARE HYBRID VEHICLES. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, AND LET, LET'S ADDRESS THE DOOR TO DOOR JUST A LITTLE BIT IF WE CAN PLEASE. 
          WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT THAT THE RESIDENTIAL IS DOOR TO DOOR, BUT BUSINESS MAY NOT BE DOOR TO DOOR. 
          BUT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT HOTELS, WE'RE WE'RE TAKEN TO THE FRONT DOOR OF HOTELS. 
          THE EXAMPLE THAT WE WERE GIVEN WAS IN A BIG SHOPPING CENTER WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF RESTAURANTS. 
          UH, YOU MAY NOT DROP OFF RIGHT IN THE FRONT OF THIS ONE, BUT IT MIGHT BE A COUPLE OF RESTAURANTS DOWN AND YOU HAVE TO GET OUT AND MAYBE WALK DOWN, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA DROP 'EM OFF IN THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT, ARE YOU? YOU'LL BE, YOU'LL BE UP CLOSE TO THE, TO THE RESTAURANTS OR THE BUSINESSES THERE, CORRECT? RIGHT. 
          SO MAYBE THE FIRST THING THAT I'LL SAY IS, UM, THIS IS A COMPLETELY A DECISION THAT THE TOWN CAN MAKE, WHETHER EVERY SINGLE RESTAURANT IS A STOP AND, YOU KNOW, THE VEHICLE WILL STOP AT EVERY RESTAURANT NO MATTER WHAT THE REQUEST IS. 
          FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, AND THIS WOULD AGAIN BE A DECISION FOR THE TOWN, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THESE MORE DENSE AREAS, AND MAYBE PEOPLE ARE REQUESTING RIDES FROM, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS THAT ARE TWO DOORS DOWN FROM EACH OTHER, INSTEAD OF HAVING THE VEHICLE STOP IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES, LITERALLY A MINUTE APART, OR HALF, YOU KNOW, 30 SECONDS APART FROM EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT, WE CAN HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY GROUP, THOSE RIDERS THAT ARE GENERALLY IN THAT AREA TO GET TO A SHARED, UM, EASY TO ACCESS LOCATION, WHICH IS NOT IN THE BACK OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE RESTAURANT. 
          IT WOULD BE AT A, YOU KNOW, A, A CORNER THAT WE THINK PEOPLE CAN, UM, ALL GATHER SAFELY AND BE ABLE TO LOAD ONTO A VEHICLE TOGETHER. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS IS A DECISION FOR THE TOWN TO MAKE, BUT WE THINK FROM AN EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT, IT MAY MAKE SENSE FOR CERTAIN AREAS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, UNIFIED PICKUP STOPS, UH, WHEN THERE'S HEAVY DENSITY AND, UH, TO AVOID A VEHICLE STOPPING EVERY FIVE SECONDS TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP AND DROP. 
          MY MY POINT, AND, AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER, VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY IS ONE OF OUR BIG, VERY POPULAR, UH, CENTERS WITH A LOT OF RESTAURANTS, AND THAT PARKING LOT IS PACKED. 
          A LOT OF TIMES I HAVE TO PARK IN THE, THE PARKING GARAGE THAT'S A 10 OR 15 MINUTE WALK FROM THE RESTAURANT I WANT TO GET TO AT NO TIME. 
          YOU'LL DROP OFF 15 MINUTES FROM THAT RESTAURANT. 
          YOU'LL GET, YOU'LL GET CLOSER THAN THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT OR THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE PARKING GARAGE IS WHAT MY POINT IS. 
          THAT'S CORRECT, YES. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. 
          I MAY HAVE SOME MORE LATER. 
          I'LL, I'LL BE BRIEF WITH MY TIME. 
          LET OTHER PEOPLE TALK, CHRIS. 
          SO ONE THING WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT YET IS, UH, THE, ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT, THIS, THIS IS A SHARED SERVICE, RIGHT? SO IF A VIA VEHICLE COMES AND PICKS ME UP AT MY STOP, RIGHT? I'VE ALREADY BEEN ON THE BUS AND I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE OFFICE. 
          HOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL THESE VEHICLES SIT SEAT? UM, THE TOYOTA SCENE IS, IN PARTICULAR, THEY HAVE THE DRIVER, UH, THREE PASSENGERS IN THE BACK AND ONE IN THE FRONT. 
          WE HAVE SOME OF OUR PARTNERS THAT ARE OKAY WITH FOUR PASSENGERS BEING IN THE VEHICLE AT THE SAME TIME. 
          OTHERS OF OUR, UH, PARTNERS CHOOSE TO ONLY HAVE TWO OR THREE, DEPENDING ON THE COMFORT LEVEL. 
          SO IT'S MO IT'S MULTIPLE FOLKS IN ONE CAR. 
          SO IT COULD BE, I'M TRYING TO GET TO WORK AND IT'S FOUR STOPS. 
          I HEARD YOU WHEN YOU SAID OUR SOFTWARE TRIES TO GET PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ALL IN THE SAME PLACE, BUT IT COULD BE FOUR STOPS, IS THAT RIGHT? YES. 
          THERE COULD BE FOUR STOPS. 
          THAT WAS CORRECT. 
          AND THE WHOLE DOOR TO DOOR THING, WE BEAT THAT TO DEATH. 
          YOU'RE NOT GOING OUT TO GARLAND AND PICKING PEOPLE UP, ARE YOU? THEY'VE GOTTA GET TO ONE OF OUR RALLY POINTS AND YOU'RE TAKING THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE BASED ON THE CURRENT SERVICE DESIGN? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN I, I GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR, I THINK IT'S THOMAS. 
          YEAH, SURE. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU'RE, YOU'RE SORT OF THE REGIONAL GUY HERE. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ARLINGTON. 
          WHAT HAVE BEEN THE ANNUAL INCREASES TO ARLINGTON? THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE MORE FOR AARON OR SARGE. 
          I MEAN, TRANSPARENTLY FOR THE ARLINGTON SERVICE, I DON'T MANAGE THAT DAY TO DAY, SO I'LL PASS THAT ONE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT NO, NO, NO WORRIES. 
          UM, DOING, WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER. 
          UM, THERE, THERE, IT'S, IT'S CONTRACTED OUT. 
          THERE'RE ABSOLUTELY AWARE OF EXACTLY WHAT THE INCREASE IS OVER TIME. 
          UH, WE HAVE A MULTI-YEAR CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF ARLINGTON, AND SO THAT'S, UM, WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DAY WE SIGNED THE CONTRACT, WE'VE AGREED UPON THE, UM, WHATEVER INCREASES IN PRICES THERE MAY BE. 
          OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND THEN MAYBE THIS ONE'S FOR THOMAS. 
          UM, SO LAST YEAR WE HAD 769,000 PEOPLE COME THROUGH OUR BUS STATION, 12,686 USED GOAL LINK, AND THEN 1,214 PARATRANSIT RIDERS. 
          THAT'S 784,000. 
          WHERE DO WE COME UP WITH THE TWO, THE TWO, THE SEVEN VEHICLES AND TWO SPARES? AND DO, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT'S GONNA BE ENOUGH? YEAH, THE, THE, THE PERFECT SCENARIOS HERE IS THAT WE GET EXACT RIGHT INFORMATION FROM DART IN TERMS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY TRANSITING WITHIN ADDISON AND GETTING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE EXACT PARATRANSIT RIDERSHIP DATA. 
          UM, UNFORTUNATELY, AND I THINK THIS IS THE CASE TODAY AS WELL, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN THAT, THAT DATA FROM DART AT THE MOMENT. 
          AND SO WHAT WE RELY ON IS, UM, TWO THINGS. 
          ONE KIND OF DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION THAT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. 
          SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF TOOLS INTERNALLY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF GET A BETTER SENSE FOR HOW PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING, UM, INTO, OUT OF, WITHIN CITIES. 
          UM, NUMBER TWO, WE, WE 
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HAVE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, CITIES THAT WE WORK WITH REGIONALLY HERE IN NORTH TEXAS. 
          SO WE HAVE A GENERALLY GOOD SENSE OF TRAVEL PATTERNS, AND WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE THOSE TWO THINGS, MARRY THEM, HAVE A GENERALLY GOOD APPROXIMATION OF DART RIDERSHIP BASED ON THE DATA THAT YOU, YOU SHARED. 
          AND, UM, BASED ON OUR SIMULATION TOOLS RUNNING HUNDREDS OF SERVICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, E EXECUTING ON MILLIONS OF TRIPS, UH, ON, ON A YEARLY BASIS, WE'RE, WE'RE ABLE TO GET A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MUCH SUPPLY EFFECTIVELY IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF VEHICLES WE WOULD NEED TO ACCOMMODATE DEMAND. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THEN, UH, BACK TO DARREN, ONE OF DARREN'S QUESTIONS. 
          SO IF WE FIND OUT THAT WE MISSED THE MARK, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          AND IT'S NOT SEVEN VEHICLES WE NEED, IT'S ACTUALLY 15 VEHICLES, THE PRICE GOES UP, RIGHT? WE, YES. 
          YOU GOTTA PUT MORE VEHICLES INTO THE SYSTEM, CORRECT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND THEN TO THE INTEGRATION TO THE APP, RIGHT? DEPENDING ON WHERE WE LAND ON THE COST OF THE TICKET, IF WE DO CHARGE, DECIDE TO CHARGE SOMEONE, CAN THEY TAKE THEIR DART PASS, THEY'VE ALREADY PAID FOR A TICKET ON A BUS, THEY GET TO ONE OF THE RALLY POINTS? CAN THEY, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO PROVE PAYMENT AND THEN KEEP ON GOING? OR IS THAT A, WOULD YOUR SOFTWARE ALLOW THAT OR IS THAT A TOWN QUESTION? UH, IT, IT'S A, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A PROBABLY A TOWN QUESTION IN TERMS OF HOW YOU ALL WANT TO TREAT TRANSFERS, WHETHER FOLKS ARE PAYING TWICE OR, UM, YOU KNOW, ONLY PAYING ONCE DEPENDING ON WHICH LEG. 
          UM, ULTIMATELY FROM OUR STANDPOINT, A NUMBER OF OUR SERVICES, WE HAVE DRIVERS THAT LOOK AT TICKETS BASED ON WHAT WE CALL VISUAL VERIFICATION. 
          AND SO WE WOULD TRAIN OUR DRIVERS TO SAY THAT IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY THAT HAS A, A LIVE AND ACTIVE DART TICKET THAT THEY'VE ALREADY USED RECENTLY WITHIN THAT TIME WINDOW TO BOARD A DART BUS AND THEY'RE BOARDING A, A MICRO TRANSIT VEHICLE, THEN WE WOULD TAKE THAT AS FAIR PAYMENT AND A FREE TRANSFER IF THE POLICY IS SUCH ON THE TOWN. 
          'CAUSE YOU TOUCHED ON MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS JUST CHARGING TWICE, RIGHT? AFTER WHICH, YEAH, 15 MINUTES. 
          UH, THAT, THAT'S IT, THAT'S ALL I GOT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, FLORIDA. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UH, GENTLEMEN, THANKS FOR BEING HERE AND I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH YOUR PRODUCT. 
          A FEW OF US HAVE TAKEN RIDES, UH, OVER IN ARLINGTON AND THEN OVER IN, UH, DENTON COUNTY, DCTA VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE PRODUCT. 
          AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOR THOSE FOR, FOR ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO HASN'T DONE THAT, IT'S VERY HELPFUL. 
          IT'S GONNA ANSWER A TON OF QUESTIONS AND, AND HOPEFULLY PUT YOU AT EASE. 
          UM, CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE, WHERE IS PLANO AS FAR AS, UH, HAVE THEY APPROVED AN ORDER? UM, I'LL, I'LL ACTUALLY PASS THOSE VEHICLES. 
          YEAH, SO PLANO HAS APPROVED OUR AGREEMENT, UM, BASED ON AN EARLIER CITY COUNCIL MEETING. 
          WE'RE ACTUALLY STILL FINALIZING THE PLANS FOR THE LAUNCH, UM, IN THE SCOPE. 
          SO I, I DON'T WANT TO SHARE, I'M JUST THE REASON I REPORTS PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED, BUT YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THE REASON I ASK IS I, I, I'M JUST, I'M THINKING I, IF WE APPROVE THIS, THE VEHICLES THAT WE WOULD HAVE IN PLANO WOULD HAVE, MIGHT, MIGHT BE STORED SOMEWHERE CLOSE BY, MAY BE WRONG, BUT, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT AS TO THAT? WOULD THEY BE IN ARLINGTON OR WOULD, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE THEY MIGHT BE STORED? YEAH, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN EXPLORING A COUPLE OPTIONS. 
          IN THE CASE OF PLANO, AGAIN, I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS NOT FINALIZED YET, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME PARKING OPTIONS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE DIRECTLY WITHIN PLANO, GIVEN THE OVERALL SCALE OF THE CITY. 
          UM, TYPICALLY OUR APPROACH WHEN WE'RE DOING ANY LAUNCH IN A NEW COMMUNITY, ONE OF OUR VERY FIRST STEPS IN OUR KIND OF KICKOFF MEETING IS WE'LL TALK ABOUT ARE THERE LOCATIONS THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER? IT'S ON US TO ULTIMATELY FIGURE OUT AND TAKE CARE OF ALL THE LOGISTICS, BUT WHAT WE'RE TYPICALLY LOOKING FOR IS A LOCATION THAT WILL MITIGATE REALLY LONG DEADHEAD TIME. 
          SO WE'D LIKE IT TO BE AS CLOSE TO OR WITHIN THE ZONE AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WHEN WE'RE STARTING SERVICE AT THE BE BEGINNING OF A DAY OR ENDING SERVICE, WE'RE NOT TELLING THE DRIVER GO TAKE THE VEHICLE 20 MINUTES PER IT COULD BE IN ADDISON. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          PERFECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, UH, WHEN WOULD YOU NEED TO KNOW, UM, ABOUT THE, THE BRAND NAME AND THE, THE, THE WRAP, THE, THE, THE WRAP FOR THE VEHICLE AND THE APP BRANDING FOR THE APP TOO? YEAH, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, JUST GIVEN THE, THE 30 DAY LAUNCH PLAN, I MEAN VIA, WE, WE CAN WORK AT A VERY ACCELERATED PACE, BUT TRUTHFULLY, THE, THE SOONEST POSSIBLE ON THE BRAND NAME IN PARTICULAR. 
          THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE ARE ALSO CONSIDERATIONS IN TERMS OF PREPARING FOR THE APP TO GO INTO THE APP STORE. 
          WE NEED THE NAME LOCKED IN. 
          SO, UM, IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH YOU AND YOU MAKE A DECISION ON THE NAME, THAT THAT WOULD BE A DETAIL THAT WOULD BE VERY, VERY HELPFUL, FAIRLY IMMINENTLY. 
          THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE GAVE THAT TO YOU TONIGHT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY TOWNS OR CITIES CURRENTLY WHERE THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR THE FARES? UH, WE, WE DO HAVE A FEW TOWNS THAT CHOOSE NOT TO, UM, UH, CHARGE. 
          ONE OF THEM THAT COMES TO MIND IS THE CITY OF LONE TREE, UH, RIGHT OUTSIDE OF, UH, UH, DENVER, IN, IN COLORADO. 
          AND SO THEY HAVE A CITYWIDE SERVICE THAT'S ACTUALLY CONNECTING TO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CITIES NEARBY THAT THEY DO NOT CHARGE A FAIR. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEL FOR, IF A TOWN, LET'S SAY OUR TOWN, UM, IF WE WERE TO CHARGE ONE, TWO, OR $3 VERSUS ZERO, HOW MUCH INCREASE OF USAGE 
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DO YOU GET WHEN IT'S ZERO? IS THAT, IS THAT A, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ASK THE QUESTION BETTER, RIGHT? IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          KIND OF THE, UH, UH, THE ELASTICITY OF THE DEMAND BASED ON THE PRICE. 
          AND SO WE WOULD, UM, WE'D BE ABLE TO MAYBE PROVIDE SOME GENERAL GUIDANCE, BUT I THINK, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A DEFINITIVE METRIC THAT SAYS IT WOULD BE 10% HIGHER OR LOWER BASED ON A DOLLAR OF INCREASE IN PRICE. 
          WELL, BECAUSE YOU'VE GIVEN US A, AN ESTIMATE, A QUOTE, OR PRICE FOR THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT YOU HAVE, AND WE HAVEN'T SAID WHETHER WE'RE GONNA CHARGE A FAIR OR NOT. 
          SO IF WE DON'T CHARGE A FAIR, DO YOU, IS IT REASONABLE TO THINK THE USAGE WOULD GO UP AND IF WE DO CHARGE A FAIR, THE RE THE USAGE WOULD GO DOWN AND THE HIGHER THE FAIR, THE LOWER IT GO? IS THAT, AM I THINKING CORRECTLY? YOU ARE THINKING CORRECTLY THAT, THAT, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. 
          SO I THINK, UM, YES SIR. 
          GO AHEAD, PLEASE. 
          SO, SO IF WE DON'T CHARGE A FAIR, DO YOU FEEL LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED TO US NOW IS OKAY OR ARE WE YES, WE DO. 
          YOU'RE OKAY WITH A NOFA AT THIS ONE? PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU, RANDY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MARLON ASKED ONE OF MINE, SO WE CUT MINE IN HALF, SO WE'RE GOOD. 
          UH, AND MY QUESTION IS FOR ASHLEY, AND I DON'T HOPE YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET BACK OUT THERE, IF YOU CAN JUST DO IT FROM RIGHT HERE. 
          THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF CONCERNS ABOUT THIS DOOR TO DOOR AGAIN. 
          AND ARE WE PICKING PEOPLE UP IN CARROLLTON AT THEIR DOOR OR ARE WE PICKING PEOPLE UP IN GARLAND AT THEIR DOOR TO BRING THEM IN? MY QUESTION IS, DOES DART PICK 'EM UP AT THEIR DOOR IN CARROLLTON OR GARLAND? NO, THEY PICK, DO THEY STILL HAVE TO GET TO A DART STOP SOMEWHERE IN CARROLLTON OR GARLAND TO THEN MAKE A CONNECTION OR A BUS RIDE INTO ADDISON? YES, SIR. 
          SO WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THEM HAVING TO GET TO A STOP IN CARROLLTON TO GET INTO ADDISON OR MAYBE NOT CARROLLTON. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE A RALLY POINT AT, AT THE CARROLLTON STOP OVER THERE. 
          SO THEY JUST HAVE TO GET TO THAT, UH, PEOPLE IN GARLAND, THEY STILL GOTTA GET TO A BUS STOP. 
          SO WHAT'S I, I, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THIS, NOT PICKING 'EM UP IN GARLAND OR IN AT OR IN CARROLLTON IS DIFFERENT THAN DART. 
          I THINK THIS IS A MORE, IS AN EASIER, MORE COMFORTABLE PROCESS THAN, THAN THE CONNECTION. 
          I GUESS. 
          THAT WASN'T A QUESTION. 
          THAT WAS A COMMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, MAYOR DAN. 
          DAN'S GOT HIS HAND UP. 
          DAN, THIS IS FOR THE VIA GENTLEMEN AND ANYONE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION. 
          YOU HAD A DEMONSTRATION UP EARLIER WHERE YOU WERE INTENTIONALLY, I LOVED IT. 
          YOU WERE SHOWING A LONGER ROUTE. 
          CAN YOU PULL THAT BACK UP POSSIBLY WHEN YOU WERE IN THAT, PLEASE DO THAT. 
          WHEN YOU WERE IN THAT DEMONSTRATION AND YOU WERE SHOWING THAT LONG ROUTE, IT LITERALLY SHOWS HOW MANY STOPS, I THINK IF I READ IT CORRECTLY WITH MY GLASSES ON HOW MANY TIMES THEY HAD TO TAKE A DART TRANSFER WITHIN THE DART PRODUCT. 
          IS THAT CORRECT OR AM I NOT SEEING THAT CORRECTLY? UH, IT IS SHOWING YOU THE JOURNEY THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO PLAN FROM THE LOCATION WITHIN A MICRO TRANSIT ZONE IN, UH, THE FORT WORTH REGION TO GET TO DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH USING MICRO TRANSIT, CONNECTING TO FIXED ROUTES, GETTING BACK TO YOUR HOME. 
          SO IT LITERALLY DETAILS IT OUT THAT A POTENTIAL MIDDLE SCHOOLER COULD POTENTIALLY READ THROUGH TO EVEN UNDERSTAND, I'M NOT TAKING ONE BUS, I'VE GOTTA GET OFF MY BUS AND GET ON ANOTHER BUS. 
          IF THAT BUS IS ON TIME AND THEN IT'S A WAIT PERIOD POTENTIALLY, BUT THIS ROUTES IT OUT TECHNICALLY CORRECT. 
          PLOTS IT.BY DOT, BY.BY DOT. 
          AM I SAYING, AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY OR SAYING THAT CORRECTLY? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BACK TO THE POINT, IT'S, WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL BEATING THIS DEAD HORSE, THIS GARLAND CONVERSATION TO GET INTO OUR TOWN OF ADDISON. 
          WOULD THE DEMONSTRATION LOOK THE SAME IF YOU WERE TO PUT IN GARLAND RIGHT NOW INTO VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY IN ADDISON, TEXAS? WOULD IT SHOW THAT PERSON WHO IS A GO PASS USER, WHAT BUS TO GET ON, WHEN TO GET ON IT, WHERE THE TRANSFER IS, HOW TO TRANSFER, WHEN THAT TRANSFER'S COMING, AND WHEN THE EXPECTED TIME AT THE RALLY POINT IS TO GET ON YOUR PRODUCT IN OUR TOWN? IF THIS IS AGREED TO, TO GET TO VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY TO GO HAVE DINNER WITH THEIR GIRLFRIEND, WOULD IT TELL THEM THAT IN THIS DEMONSTRATION IF WE WERE TO CHANGE IT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. 
          'CAUSE I, I, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A MISS THERE EARLIER THAT I THINK IS SIMPLY PUT, IF THEY'RE A GO PASS USER WITH DART, THEY'LL BECOME A GO PASS USER WITH VIA, IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? YEAH, SO WOULD IT WOULD SEAMLESSLY TRANSFER OVER TO ALLOW FOR MICRO TRANSITS IN ADDISON AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          I'VE, I'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS, UH, IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND. 
          UM, THE QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT STOPPING ON BUSY ROADS, I I THINK THE, THE, THE, THE ANSWER WAS NOT, I'M SURE IT WASN'T, WELL, IT WASN'T A QUESTION THAT I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE HEARD 'CAUSE THAT WAS ABOUT THE DOOR TO DOOR WHERE YOU 
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CAN STOP 'EM AT THEIR HOUSE OR WHERE A HOTEL OR WHATEVER. 
          MY CONCERN ABOUT THE STOPPING ON BUSY ROADS IS THAT THE RALLY POINTS, 'CAUSE ALL THOSE ARE AT MAIN STREETS, WHETHER TRINITY MILLS OR BELTLINE OR WHEREVER, AND YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC OUT THERE. 
          AND THEN WHEN ONE OF THE, THE FOLKS IN THE, IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS EARLIER KIND OF REALLY BROUGHT THAT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THAT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE WHAT IF I'M DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AND I SEE A BIG DARK BUS, I KNOW I BETTER GET OVER 'CAUSE IT'S PROBABLY GONNA STOP AND I'M GONNA BE ANNOYED THAT I HAVE TO STOP BEHIND IT. 
          IF A, IF, IF A MINIVAN STOPS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD IN FRONT OF ME, THERE'S ROAD, THERE'S POTENTIAL ROAD RAGE ISSUES THAT COULD HAPPEN, WHETHER IF THEY'RE JUST STOPPING TO LET SOMEBODY OFF. 
          I HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE ROAD RAGE SIDE OF IT, THE REAR END COLLISION SIDE OF IT. 
          UH, THAT REALLY DOES CONCERN ME BECAUSE THOSE, THOSE ARE ALL HIGH TRAFFIC INATTENTIVE DRIVERS THAT ARE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE, THEY'RE NOT EXPECTING THAT BEHAVIOR. 
          SO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THAT? YEAH, WELL ONE OF THE THINGS WAS ONE, NUMBER ONE TRAINING FOR OUR DRIVERS. 
          I, I THINK OUR DRIVERS AND, AND ERIC ATTEST TO THIS WE'RE WE DO A LOT OF SAFETY TRAINING. 
          AND ONE OF THE CORE PIECES OF SAFETY TRAINING IS DO NOT STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF A BUSY ROAD. 
          NO MATTER IF THE APP TELLS YOU TO OR NOT, UM, YOU FIND A SAFE PLACE TO PULL OVER AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERY PASSENGER WHO IS GETTING ON AND OFF THE VEHICLE IS DOING. 
          SO IN A SAFE MANNER WITH THESE SPECIFIC RALLY POINTS, WE'D WANNA WORK WITH THE, WITH THE TOWN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE CLOSEST PLACE NEARBY THAT WE CAN SAFELY PULL A VEHICLE OVER UNLOAD, LOAD A PASSENGER, AND THEN HAVE THE SHORTEST AMOUNT OF WALK TO GET TO THAT RALLY POINT. 
          IDEALLY IT'S NEAR, NEARBY, AND THIS IS WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE IN MOST CITIES IS THAT MAYBE IT'S NOT DIRECTLY AT THE BUS STOP, BUT IT'S MAYBE SLIGHTLY AROUND THE CORNER. 
          UM, BUT ULTIMATELY SAFETY IS GONNA BE OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY AND AND WE'D BE ABLE TO ADJUST THE TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE DROP OFF POINTS HAPPEN ONLY IN SAFE PLACES. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          SO, SO THERE'S NEVER GONNA BE ANYBODY DROPPED OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF BELTLINE ROAD OR ADDISON ROAD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, JOINTLY WITH TRAINING AND TECHNOLOGY, WE CAN PREVENT THAT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, IF SOMEBODY, IF, UH, SO MY CONCERN ALWAYS GOES BACK TO THE RIDER EXPERIENCE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE THE FOLKS THAT ARE MOST AFFECTED BY ALL THIS. 
          AND, AND, AND THERE WILL BE, IT, IT'S IT'S LONG, IT'S GONNA BE LONGER FOR SOMEBODY TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B. 
          I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAYS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MAKE AN EXTRA CONNECTION. 
          SO THAT'S JUST, THAT'S REALLY CLEAR TO ME. 
          HOW DOES GOING TO THE PARATRANSIT RIDER, SO THINKING OF SOMEBODY THAT LIVES IN NORTH DALLAS SOMEWHERE AND THEY NEED TO GO TO, UH, THE METH METHODIST HOSPITAL FOR SURGERY TO THE, UM, MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING NEXT DOOR WHERE AT TO, TO DO A FOLLOW UP AFTER THEIR BACK SURGERY. 
          SO THEY NEED TO TAKE PARATRANSIT. 
          HOW DO THEY GET FROM THERE? HOW DO THEY, HOW DO THEY GET FROM THEIR HOUSE TO THERE TOO? YEAH, SO, UM, THE, BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ADDISON, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE GETTING FROM THEIR HOUSE INTO ADDISON, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          UM, THE, THE WAY THAT WE'VE, UH, DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY AT THE MOMENT, AND AGAIN, THIS IS PROBABLY MORE OF A CITY POLICY, BUT WE WOULD LOOK AT ELIGIBILITY BASED ON ADDISON RESIDENTS SPECIFICALLY, AND WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO RIDE THE PARATRANSIT SERVICE SHOULD BE FOLKS THAT LIVE HERE IN ADDISON. 
          NOW, IF THERE ARE OTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE GREATER DFW METROPLEX AREA THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE ELIGIBLE FOR PARATRANSIT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D WANNA DISCUSS AND UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF DEEMS THAT ELIGIBILITY TO BE. 
          UM, A YES, WE WANNA SERVE THIS RIDE OR NO, WE DON'T. 
          AND SO IT'D BE A CITY DECISION AS TO, OR A TOWN DECISION RATHER AS TO WHICH RIDER SHOULD BE ELIGIBLE, UM, OUTSIDE OF, UM, KIND OF TOWN LIMITS WHO, WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF TOWN LIMITS. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN COMES IN, BECAUSE I THINK YOU ALL DO A REALLY GOOD JOB ON, ON LOCAL TRANSIT AND, AND I, I LIKE A LOT OF WHAT YOU DO IN ON LOCAL TRANSIT. 
          IT'S THAT CONNECTIVITY THAT CONCERNS ME ON THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME INTO ADDISON, COME TO THE DOCTOR. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF MEDICAL FOLKS HERE. 
          UM, AND, AND I WOULD, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF PARATRANSIT INBOUND FROM, FROM OUR SURROUNDING CITIES. 
          MY CONCERN IS THAT THEY WON'T KNOW HOW TO GET HERE. 
          THEY'RE GONNA GET ON THE GO PASS AND, AND CALL PARATRANSIT AND THEY'LL SAY, WELL, WE DON'T GO INTO, THEY'LL, THEY'LL TAKE 'EM SOMEWHERE I GUESS TO A RALLY POINT. 
          WOULDN'T THEY USE THEIR OWN, UH, LOCAL TRANSIT? THEY WOULD USE DART IF THEY'RE NOT IN, THEY'RE IN THE DART AREA, WHAT THEY WOULD USE DART PARATRANSIT, BUT, BUT DART WOULDN'T, DOESN'T COME INTO ADDISON. 
          BUT THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF DART WOULD DELIVER THEIR, THEIR IN ADDISON. 
          NO, THEY, BUT NO, THEY, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THE PARATRANSIT WOULD STOP IF WE, IF WE'RE NO LONGER IN ADDISON, THEY'RE NOT GONNA DROP ANYBODY OFF IN ADDISON. 
          SO THAT'S MY CONCERN OF THE INBOUND PASSENGERS, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S AN ANSWER FOR THAT. 
          UM, HOW DO, HOW DO YOU, HOW WILL YOU DO THE OUTREACH TO THE PARA TRANSIT, THE CURRENT PARATRANSIT REGISTERED PARATRANSIT RIDERS WITH DARTS? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT LIKE TIGHT AND TIGHT WITH THEM WITH THEIR DATABASE, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          THAT, THAT, THAT'S THE SITUATION AT THE MOMENT. 
          WE'RE HOPING THAT AT SOME POINT THE CITY OR THE TOWN IS ABLE TO GET THE ACTUAL PARATRANSIT RIDER DATA. 
          SO WE'RE ABLE TO DIRECTLY MOVE ALL OF THOSE RIDER AND MAKE THEM ELIGIBLE WITH THE, WITH THE PROPOSED PARATRANSIT SYSTEM. 
          UM, IF WE'RE NOT, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'D RELY ON IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY TO 
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UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, BASED ON YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE RESIDENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE FOLKS ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, PARATRANSIT RIDER MAY TYPICALLY GO TO OR GO FROM, IF WE CAN GET TO THOSE PLACES AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, TABLES OR BOOTHS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE WAY TO GET INTO THE VIA SYSTEM IS PARATRANSIT ELIGIBLE AND WE, WE DO A LOT OF OUTREACH DIRECTLY, UM, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH, AGAIN, LOCAL, IN PERSON, UH, PHONE CALLS, EMAILS, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, UM, IN THE, IN THE NEWSLETTER IS ANOTHER, UH, GREAT PLACE THAT WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF PARTNERS KIND OF PROMOTE THE IDEA THAT PLEASE CALL THIS NUMBER TO BE ABLE TO REGISTER YOURSELF AS A PARA TRANSIT USER. 
          I, I MISSED A PRETTY GOOD LAY AMOUNT OF THAT. 
          SORRY. 
          NO WORRIES. 
          UM, I'M KIND, KIND OF TIRED. 
          UM, BUT THE, UM, SO THAT, SO I THINK YOU STARTED OUT SAYING THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE ADDISON TO GET THAT DATA FROM DART, IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? YEAH, WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY HELP IN AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          WE WOULD REQUEST THE SAME INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL WOULD REQUEST, BUT IF, IF THERE IS ANY CONNECTIONS THAT THE, THE TOWN HAS DIRECTLY INTO DART WHERE THAT INFORMATION WILL BE AVAILABLE, WE'D LOVE TO GET IT. 
          WE WOULD TRY OURSELVES AS WELL. 
          UM, WE ARE NOT SURE HOW MUCH DATA WE WILL GET FROM DART OR NOT, SO WE WANNA HAVE THE BACKUP PLAN YEAH. 
          AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CALLING, WE'RE TABLING, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO IN, UH, IN THE TOWN IS, IS RIDING PARATRANSIT TODAY. 
          AND WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET THAT, THAT DATA THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          FROM DART. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT CAN, THAT CONCERNS, SO, SO THEN I DON'T KNOW IF IT MATTERS IF WE HAVE 10 DAYS OR, OR OR SIX MONTHS TO, TO DO THE OUTREACH IF WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE. 
          IT'S KINDA HARD TO, HARD, HARD TO DO THAT OUTREACH. 
          UM, YEAH, THE OTHER, THE LAST COMMENT I HAD THAT, THAT THE COMMENTS ABOUT, WELL THERE'S, THERE'S NO FIXED SCHEDULE, SO IT'S ALWAYS ON YOUR ON DEMAND AND THAT'S GREAT, BUT IF SOMEBODY IS CONNECTING OUTSIDE OF ADDISON AGAIN, THAT I, THAT GOES TO YOUR STRENGTH LOCAL ON A LOCAL TRANSIT, BUT IF SOMEBODY'S CONNECTING OUTSIDE, UM, IT REQUIRES A FIXED ROUTE AND, AND SCHEDULING AND, AND, AND I STILL THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR SOMEBODY GETTING TO GETTING DROPPED OFF AT A RALLY POINT AND THEY JUST MISS THAT BUS AND THEY'RE GONNA STAND OUT THERE IN THE ELEMENTS FOR 20 MINUTES, 30 MINUTES COULD BE LONGER ON THE WEEKEND. 
          SO I JUST, THE, THE EFFICIENCY IS CAN BE GREAT LOCALLY. 
          I'M CONFIDENT OF THAT. 
          I'M JUST, I JUST REALLY HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE OUTSIDE, UH, YOU KNOW, CONNECTING OUTSIDE AGAIN, THE REGIONAL, REGIONAL TRANSIT, UM, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW FAR FROM. 
          PERFECT. 
          UM, BUT, UH, BUT I, I JUST, I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT, ABOUT THAT CONNECTIVITY AND I'M NOT SURE THAT, THAT YOU HAVE REAL SOLUTIONS FOR THAT. 
          AM I, AM I MISSING ANYTHING? I DO THINK THAT THE TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS FOR GOOD CONNECTIONS AND IF YOU DON'T MAKE THE ORIGINAL, ORIGINAL CONNECTION THAT WAS PROPOSED THROUGH LET'S SAY GO PASS OR THE VIA APP, THAT THERE WOULD BE ALTERNATIVES PROPOSED. 
          BUT MY SENSE IS THAT THIS MAY HAPPEN ON FIXED WRAP BUSES AS WELL WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A CONNECTION BETWEEN TWO BUSES AND THAT CONNECTION POINT JUST MAY NOT HAPPEN AS YOU WERE HOPING FOR, AND THEN YOU DO HAVE TO WAIT, UM, SIMILAR TO, UH, A MICROT TRANSITS CONNECTION AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, JUST MY LAST COMMENT, I WOULD MAKE THAT, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, COMMENTS EARLIER FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, IS, IS A COMMENT THAT I'VE MADE TO, TO A LOT OF FOLKS THAT, UH, WHAT YOU ALL DO, THE SURFERS, YOU ALL DO REALLY SEEM TO BE REALLY GOOD QUALITY. 
          UH, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT ADD-ON. 
          UH, THAT'S WHERE I AM WITH THAT, BUT, UH, I THINK IT'S GOOD, GOOD QUALITY. 
          SO Y'ALL COULD, I'LL BE QUICK PLEASE. 
          I, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 
          I GUESS RIGHT NOW, THE PARATRANSIT WE HAVE, IF SOMEBODY IN ADDISON WANTS TO RIDE PARATRANSIT FROM HERE TO MESQUITE, DOES PARATRANSIT TAKE THEM THERE? MESQUITE'S NOT A MEMBER CITY. 
          NO. 
          THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING DOES IT TAKE THEM THERE? IT ONLY GOES TO THE OTHER 12 CITIES GOES TO THE MEMBER CITIES, RIGHT? ONLY THE 12. 
          AND SO THEY'RE GONNA GO TO ALL THE 12 IF THEY'RE STILL 12, BUT, BUT IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INBOUND. 
          THE INBOUND, YES. 
          WOULD DART BRING SOMEONE INTO ADDISON? AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO. 
          I THINK NO. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF, IF RIGHT NOW PARATRANSIT GOES WHEREVER THEY WANT OR ONLY WHEREVER THEY WANT WITHIN THOSE 12 STATES. 
          YEAH, MY GUESS IS THAT, AND IT IS JUST A GUESS. 
          MY GUESS IS THERE'S PROBABLY MORE INBOUND THAN THERE IS OUTBOUND PARATRANSIT COULD BE WRONG, BUT WE NEED TO FIND THAT OUT. 
          GOOD QUESTION. 
          SO DOES YOUR MODEL ACCOUNT FOR THAT SITUATION TO WHERE SOMEBODY IS ON THE OUTSIDE AND THEN THEY'RE COMING IN? IS THAT WITHIN YOUR MODEL THAT YOU, YOU SPEC FOR US? UM, THOMAS, I MAYBE LET YOU KIND OF ECHO THAT QUESTION. 
          I THINK IT'S JUST LOCAL THAT, YEAH, SO WE'VE BUILT THE MODEL FOCUSING MORE ON THE LOCAL ANGLE. 
          UM, THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE SOME WAYS THAT WE COULD APPROACH, AND THIS WOULD TRUTHFULLY BE A DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE, AND SOME OF THIS IS BASED ON A SCENARIO THAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO PLAY OUT. 
          THERE ARE ALSO DIFFERENT TIERS OF ELIGIBILITY FOR THE DART PARATRANSIT RIDER. 
          SO EVEN WITHIN THE DART SYSTEM TODAY, YOU CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT STATUS. 
          SOME OF THOSE DART PARATRANSIT RIDERS ARE ACTUALLY NOT ALLOWED TO USE, UM, INTERCITY TRAVEL BECAUSE THEY'RE UNDER ALL SCENARIOS. 
          OTHERS ARE VIEWED AS BEING ELIGIBLE FOR COMPLETE INTERCITY CONNECTIVITY NO MATTER WHAT. 
          AND THAT I, I'M NOT GONNA PRETEND TO BE AN EXPERT BECAUSE I'M NOT INTERNAL FROM DART, BUT FROM WHAT I HAVE READ, A LOT OF THAT IS BASED UPON THE DESCRIPTION OF THEIR AMBULATORY VERSUS NON-AMBULATORY 
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STATUS AND WHAT ACCOMMODATION NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED. 
          SO, LONG-WINDED WAY OF SAYING THAT THERE ARE SOME UNKNOWNS THAT WE WILL NEED TO NAVIGATE WHEN IT COMES TO ENVISIONING A SCENARIO WHERE WE DO WANT TO PROVIDE SOME FORM OF CONNECTIVITY FROM AN EXTERNAL RIDER COMING IN. 
          ONE APPROACH WE COULD LOOK AT WOULD BE LEVERAGING THE RALLY POINT CONNECTIVITY THAT WE HAVE ALREADY BUILT INTO THE MODEL. 
          AND IN THEORY, YOU KNOW, DART COULD, IF THEY WERE TO, IF DART'S POLICY DECISION WERE TO, UM, EFFECTIVELY SAY, WE WILL NO LONGER ENTER ADDISON'S BORDERS FOR PARATRANSIT RIDERS, WE COULD SAY, OKAY, FINE, THEY CAN STILL BE DROPPED OFF AT A RALLY POINT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, VERY CLOSE TO THE BORDERS OF ADDISON'S BOUNDARIES. 
          AND THEN WE WOULD TAKE THEM OURSELVES, WE COULD CONNECT THEM JUST ON THE GENERAL ON DEMAND SERVICE. 
          WE, AND, BUT WE COULD CHOOSE FROM A POLICY DECISION IF WE WOULD GO TO ALL 13 CITIES AND GET THEM AND BRING THEM IN. 
          YEAH, WE WOULD NEED TO SCOPE THAT OUT JUST BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE ARE, I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THE, THE DATA, I DON'T PRETEND TO HAVE COMPLETE VISIBILITY INTO EVERY NUANCED DETAIL OF THE BROADER REGION'S DATA. 
          THAT'S A GOOD POINT, BRUCE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL BE BRIEF. 
          WE'LL SEE. 
          WE'LL SEE. 
          AND YOU BROUGHT UP ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, AND I THINK YOU HAVE A GREAT QUESTION, MAYOR. 
          UM, DART GIVES US NUMBERS ON THE NUMBER OF PARATRANSIT TRIPS THAT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR, ASHLEY OR DAVID. 
          DO WE, DO WE, DO WE GET, IS IT BROKEN DOWN OR CAN WE GET IT BROKEN DOWN AS TO THE NUMBER THAT ORIGINATE IN ADDISON OR THE INBOUND PARATRANSIT COMING FROM OUT? CAN, CAN WE GET THOSE NUMBERS BROKEN DOWN AND SEE HOW MANY THAT IS? YEAH, SO I, I DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION AND I, LET ME PUT IT TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          UM, AND IT IS BROKEN DOWN BY DROP OFF AND BY PICKUP. 
          SO FOR THIS DATE SHOWN, WHICH WAS, I, I'M NOT EVEN GONNA SAY WHEN IT WAS SHOWN, IT SHOWS THAT WE HAD EIGHT DROP-OFFS AND THEY WERE ONLY FOUR CATEGORY TWO AND THREE THAT WERE IN ADDISON. 
          LET ME PUT THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER AND WE WILL GET IT OUT TO COUNSEL. 
          UM, I, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE INFORMATION THAT I REQUESTED WAS FOR, UM, ALL OF 2024 IN A PORTION OF 2025. 
          I'M GOING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND LOOKING AT THIS THROUGH EMAIL. 
          SO I, I DO HAVE, AND GRANTED THIS IS DROP OFF DATA BASED ON ZIP CODE, SO IT COULD BE A LITTLE OFF BASED ON OUR ZIP CODE, BUT, UM, I CAN GET THAT OUT. 
          CAN, CAN FOR ME,  AND MAYBE OTHERS THAT DON'T KNOW. 
          CAN YOU EXPLAIN THOSE CATEGORIES? YOU SAID FOR CATEGORIES TWO AND THREE? SURE. 
          UM, I'M GONNA DO THE BEST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          I KNOW CATEGORY ONE IS CONSIDERED, UM, LIKE THE HIGHEST CATEGORY. 
          YOU, IT'S WHEELCHAIR BOUND, NON AMBULATORY. 
          THAT IS SOMEBODY HAS TO HELP YOU FROM THE DOOR INTO THE VEHICLE, VICE VERSA. 
          THAT'S CATEGORY ONE. 
          WE HAD NONE OF THOSE AS DROP-OFFS FROM THE DATA THAT I HAVE. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          LOOKING AT AN EMAIL AND THEN CATEGORY TWO AND THREE GO PROGRESSIVELY MORE AMBULATORY WHERE YOU CAN MOVE, YOU KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT MAY BE, I WOULD BE HIGHLY INTERESTED IN THOSE NUMBERS. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT THAT THE MAYOR'S BROUGHT UP. 
          AND I'D, I'D BE HIGHLY INTERESTED. 
          YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE BIG HOSPITALS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT WE DO HAVE THINGS IN HERE PEOPLE WOULD BE COMING TO, AND I WANT 'EM TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT, SO. 
          SURE. 
          AND YEAH, SO, AND UNFORTUNATELY ALL WE HAVE AGAIN IS THE JUST NUMBERS START TO NOT PROVIDE US ANY SPECIFICS ON THOSE WHO ARE WRITING, BUT JUST NUMBERS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND JUST ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION, AND IT, IT'S A BIG QUESTION THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ASKED OR WONDERED ABOUT. 
          UM, WITH, FOR THE VIA GUYS, HAS THERE EVER BEEN A TOWN FOUND LIABLE BECAUSE OF V'S NEGLIGENCE? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. 
          UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS OUR EXPOSURE LIKES BEING BROUGHT UP EARLIER WITH LAWSUITS FOR USING YOUR PRODUCT? UM, I, I WOULD DEFER TO THE ATTORNEYS, UH, SPECIFICALLY AND, AND MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY. 
          TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, HAS THERE EVER BEEN A TOWN FOUND LIABLE BECAUSE OF VIA NEGLIGENCE? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER. 
          BRIEFLY, MORELAND, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF FOR NO, UH, BEFORE WE DO ANY DELIBERATION OF MOTION, UH, AT THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY, UH, WE NEED TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION FOR A SHORT TIME AND, UH, I'LL READ WHAT HE'S GIVEN ME. 
          WE WILL CONVENE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.072, SECTION TWO OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING THIS AGENDA. 
          ITEM, ITEM FIVE A, IT'S 9 22. 
          WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THIS TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          IT IS 9 47 AND WE'RE 
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COMING BACK IN TO OPEN SESSION FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION. 
          THERE'S NO ACTION FOR THE, UH, COUNCIL TO TAKE FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION, BUT WE APPRECIATE THE PATIENCE OF EVERYONE. 
          AND, UH, SO WE'LL CONTINUE THE ITEM WE WERE JUST ON, WHICH IS FIVE A. 
          AND, UH, I'D ASK THE, UH, THE FOLKS FROM VIA TO COME FORWARD TO THE LECTERN. 
          AND THE DISCUSSION WE HAD WAS GENERALLY AROUND MARKETING DURING THE, UH, DURING THE PILOT PERIOD, UH, OF, UH, IF, IF WE WERE TO LAUNCH VIA AND, AND, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT HOW PUBLIC DOLLARS CAN BE USED. 
          AND SO, UH, OUR WONDERFUL CITY ATTORNEY HERE HAS WRITTEN A, UH, STATEMENT THAT I'D LIKE TO READ, UH, AND JUST GET YOU TO PUBLICLY, PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT, AND THAT HE WILL HAVE THAT, UH, AS PART OF THE, UH, DOCUMENTATION FOR THE, UH, FOR THE CONTRACT. 
          AND, UH, AND SO THE THE STATEMENT IS, UH, WE JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS CONTRACT TONIGHT, THAT VIA UNDERSTANDS THAT UNTIL THE CONCLUSION OF THE ELECTION CONCERNING DART, THE TOWN IS NOT AUTHORIZING THE USE OF ANY TOWN FUNDING STAFF OR PUBLIC RESOURCES OF ANY KIND FOR ANY MARKETING OR PROMOTIONAL PURPOSES THAT COULD BE CONSTRUED AS ADVOCATING FOR OR AGAINST THE TOWN'S PENDING ELECTION. 
          CONCERNING DART, YOU AGREE THAT ANY INFORMATION OR RESOURCES PROVIDED BY THE TOWN PRIOR TO THE ELECTION MUST BE USED FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND MUST NOT BE UTILIZED IN ANY MANNER TO INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION? WE AGREE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          AND CHRIS, JUST, YOU GUYS KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS ISSUE. 
          UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE UNDER CONTRACT WITH US. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DRAW THAT LINE BETWEEN WHAT'S TOWN FUNDS AND WHAT'S NOT. 
          ALL I ASK IS WE AT LEAST GET AN APPROVED, LIKE A VERSION OF WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA DO IT, WHAT, WHAT IT'S GONNA SAY, AND THEN WE APPROVE IT TO MAKE SURE TO PREPRO THE MARKETING PIECES, ALL THE MARKETING PIECES JUST TO MAKE SURE WE, WE GET A GOOD FEELING THAT IT IS JUST FACTS THAT DOES NOT INFLUENCE THE VOTE. 
          IS THAT REASONABLE? WHO IS WE? YOU SAY WE? YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOMEONE, THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE TOWN. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. 
          I'M HOPING YOU CAN TELL ME THAT. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU MEANT CITY COUNCIL. 
          OH, NOT WE, THE COUNCIL? YEAH. 
          I STAFF. 
          I, I WOULD SAY THE BOND ATTORNEY. 
          IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? CHRIS? WHAT'S THAT BOND? WE HAVE A BOND. 
          WE HAVE A BOND ATTORNEY. 
          I'M NOT A BOND ATTORNEY. 
          OUR STAFF ELECTION ELECTION ATTORNEY. 
          RIGHT. 
          OUR STAFF CAN APPROVE. 
          OKAY. 
          I I'M OKAY WITH STAFF TAKING A LOOK AT OUR STAFF CAN DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST TRYING TO YEAH. 
          FIGURE OUT WE, OKAY. 
          AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S, IT MAY LIMIT THE FLASHINESS OF, UH, THE PROMOTION AND, AND IT'S UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION. 
          I MEAN, IF WE GO THIS DIRECTION. 
          OKAY. 
          MARLON, YOU WERE GONNA DO A MOTION EARLIER? YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, BUT WITH THE, WITH THE CONDITION THAT WE CHANGED THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT TO THE CORRECTED AMOUNT, UH, WHICH IS $872,231. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S YOUR MOTION. 
          I'LL SECOND IT. 
          THANK YOU HOWARD, FOR THE SECOND. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? AYE. 
          ONE. 
          OPPOSED? THANK YOU DAN, FOR THE, UH, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. 
          THERE. 
          HERE, HERE. 
          I'VE GOT SOME CLARIFICATION IF I COULD ON THIS. 
          WHAT, UH, DAVID, WHAT IS, WHAT'S, WHAT, WHAT GUIDANCE DO WE NEED TO PROVIDE AS FAR AS THE NAME AND THE WRAP AND, AND THE, THE BRAND, THE BRANDING AND THE, THE NAME? WELL, IF YOU GIVE NO GUIDANCE, IT'S GONNA BE ADDISON ORBIT. 
          AND SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS THERE, IF YOU HAVE SOME OPINIONS. 
          YEAH, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT AN IDEA. 
          CAN WE PUT UP THE, THE, THE WRAPS, THE MOCKUP WRAPS THAT YOU ALL SHOWED TO US EARLIER ON EIGHT PAGE EIGHT, NINE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SOMEONE ABSTAINING THAT LAST VOTE? I DON'T KNOW. 
          I BET IT WAS CHRIS. 
          WELL, I THINK BRUCE EVEN APPROVED IT STILL. 
          THE DOOR GETS OUT HERE. 
          WHAT'S THAT? YEAH, I DON'T LIKE HOW IT'S AN ORBIT, BUT ALMOST ANYTHING ELSE. 
          DAVID, CAN WE GIVE GUIDANCE? I MEAN, IF WE, IF WE CAN COME TO SOME CONSENSUS REAL QUICK. 
          I I OR HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DO THIS? THAT, THAT'S A BETTER QUESTION. 
          WELL, I, THE EASIEST WAY IS JUST GO BY, HEY, ARE THERE FOUR PEOPLE GOOD WITH THE ORBIT THAN WE GO? YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE. 
          THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. 
          OH, I, I JUST REALLY DON'T WANNA SPEND 30 MINUTES KIND OF GOING THROUGH ALL THESE. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER NAME, THEN YEAH, SO I DO. 
          I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I'M FOLLOWING PROTOCOL AND IF, IF I'M NOT, THEN I'D LIKE, WE'RE NOT EVEN ON AN AGENDA ITEM RIGHT NOW, SO, OKAY, SO MY, OKAY. 
          IT'S A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC SO DAVID, CAN, CAN THIS COME BACK TO US SOMEHOW SOME WAY SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS FIGURED OUT BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN, WELL, THEY NEED MORE TIME. 
          THEY PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO WAIT TILL NEXT TIME WE MEET OR SOMETHING. 
          I'M OKAY WITH CHIMING IN IN 
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THE EMAIL. 
          YOU GUYS ARE, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT. 
          PROBABLY NOT. 
          UM, SO THEY ARE GOING, SO I ASKED THE QUESTION, UH, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE MADE THIS DECISION AT THE APRIL 7TH WORK SESSION? THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE ME AN ANSWER. 
          THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK AND SEE IF THEY CAN GET EVERYTHING DONE, WRAPPED, AND READY IN THAT TIME. 
          UM, IF NOT, I'M KIND OF JUMPING OUT HERE. 
          I MEAN IT, I MEAN, IT COULD BE AN ANOTHER SPECIAL MEETING OR STAFF COULD TRY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A NAME, WITH, WITH OBVIOUSLY KNOWING THAT ADDISON ORBIT IS NOT, CAN IT, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CHANGED DURING THE CONTRACT OR, UH, AT THE END OF THE SIX MONTHS? SHOULD WE, THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S GONNA BE CONSIDERABLE COLLATERAL ALREADY TOGETHER. 
          YOU GOTTA CREATE AN APP BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. 
          I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT. 
          I'M JUST, I'M OKAY. 
          YEAH, I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH ADDISON ORBITS. 
          WELL, I LIKE ADDISON TRANSIT AND I LIKE THAT TOP WRAP. 
          YOU LIKE WHAT? TOP LEFT WRAP FOR THE BRAND? THE BRAND BEING WHAT? ADDISON TRANSIT. 
          CAN I MAKE A POINT REAL QUICK BEFORE ANYONE ELSE JUMPS IN? YEP. 
          CAN I ASK WHY WE'RE NOT USING OUR BLUE DOT? IT'S A SUCH A RECOGNIZABLE ICON AND I'M, AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY WE'RE NOT USING THIS AND I'M RECOMMENDING, I'M RECOMMENDING THAT IN THE, IN, IN THE WORD ADDISON TRANSIT. 
          I CAN GO WITH THAT BRANDING LIKE, LIKE WE ALWAYS DO, LIKE MARY DOES WITH OUR SHIRTS AND SO FORTH. 
          ADDISON, THE LOGO AND THEN TRANSIT AND GRAY. 
          YES. 
          I'M NOT SURE THAT I LOVE THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN ADDISON VEHICLE. 
          I I I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT WAS THE LEGAL CONCERN WITH THE, THE NAME CONNECTOR OR CONNECTION THAT, THAT YOU HAD ON THE BRIEF? YOU SAID THERE COULD POSSIBLY BE A LEGAL CONNOTATION, THE ONE THAT HAD GO AND IT HAD A LEGAL CONNOTATION. 
          I UNDERSTOOD THAT. 
          DO YOU, UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIVE WERE. 
          MARY, DO YOU REMEMBER? I DON'T HAVE THAT PIECE OF PAPER ANYMORE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          DO YOU? OH, GOOD. 
          I'M GLAD SOMEBODY CAN REMEMBER. 
          SO WE, WE SHORTLISTED A NUMBER OF NAMES. 
          TWO OF THEM HAD EITHER THE TERM GO OR IN THEM. 
          THE REASON WE WERE TRYING TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF C CONSIDERABLE CAUTION, FRANKLY. 
          AND THE REASON IS THAT WITH, UH, DCTA, THEY HAVE GOZ ZONE, SO THERE'S NOT, WE NEED TO BASICALLY VERIFY IS THERE ANY IN ON, I UNDERSTAND GO, BUT THE CONNECT IS WHAT I'M HAVING A TROUBLE WITH. 
          DCTA ALSO HAS A SERVICE. 
          IT'S CALLED THE CONNECT BUS SERVICE. 
          SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT WORRIED ABOUT INFRINGING ON WE, WE CAN INVESTIGATE THAT FURTHER, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BE CAUTIOUS, BASICALLY. 
          WHAT OTHER ONES DO YOU GOT? MARLON? YOU GO WITH TRANSIT. 
          ADDISON CONNECTOR. 
          ADDISON TRANSIT. 
          I LIKE ANYBODY LIKE ADDISON EXPRESS? YEAH. 
          WELL, I'M GOOD WITH TRANSIT, LIKE AMERICAN EXPRESS. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT MEANS THOUGH. 
          I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR. 
          TRANSIT, ADDISON TRANSIT. 
          I DON'T CARE. 
          I REALLY DON'T. 
          IT'S ALL THE SAME TO ME. 
          I'LL GO WITH MARY. 
          MARY'S GOT AN IDEA. 
          WELL, I, I CAN TELL YOU WHERE THE ORBIT CAME FROM. 
          UM, WE REALLY THOUGHT IT HAD A REALLY STRONG MARKETING APPEAL TO IT. 
          IT DOES. 
          IT LEANS TOWARDS ADDISON WITH THE ROUND AND THE LOGO. 
          IT, UM, ORBIT IS, CAN BE USED AS A VERB. 
          UM, SO IT WOULD BE INTEGRATED, KINDA LIKE YOU SAY, I'M AN UBER, I'M GONNA ORBIT, LET'S ORBIT, LET'S JUST, IT IT KIND OF, IT'S AN EASY MARKETING SPIN. 
          UM, I LIKE THAT. 
          IT JUST BECOMES PART OF YOUR VERNACULAR BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA SAY, OH, I'M GONNA TRANSIT. 
          YEAH, I'M GONNA TAKE OUT, LET'S TAKE ADDISON TRANSIT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME FLOW AS LET'S ORBIT. 
          I CAN GO WITH ORBIT, ESPECIALLY IF MARKETING PEOPLE CAME UP. 
          I ORBIT, I'M IN, I'M IN FOR ORBIT. 
          I CAN DO ORBIT. 
          I CAN DO ORBIT. 
          CHRIS, YOU LOVE ORBIT, RIGHT? I LOVE ORBIT, YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT'S, I'M DOING ORBIT FOR CHRIS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ALONG TO OUR NEXT ITEM. 
          THANK YOU GUYS FOR HANGING OUT WITH US TONIGHT. 
          THAT WAS GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, MARY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YIKES. 
          LET'S, WE'RE 
          [b.  Present, discuss, and consider action on an Ordinance to amend the Town's annual budget for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2026.]
GONNA MOVE RIGHT ALONG HERE. 
          ITEM FIVE B, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE TOWN'S ANNUAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. 
          STEVEN GLICKMAN FOR HIS BRIEF PRESENTATION. 
          YES, THIS SHOULD BE VERY BRIEF. 
          UH, THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. 
          AND, UH, AS ASHLEY HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, AFTER THE, UH, ITEM, WHICH WAS THE, UH, TRANSIT SERVICES, UH, THROUGH VIA THAT YOU JUST APPROVED, UH, BEFORE YOU USE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, UH, TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS, UH, TO PAY FOR THAT, UH, THOSE SERVICES. 
          UM, SO HERE'S AN OVERVIEW OF OUR BUDGET AMENDMENT PROCESS. 
          I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER ALL OF THAT, BUT BASICALLY WHEN THERE'S, UH, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S MORE THAN 5% OR A 5% CHANGE OR, UH, BETWEEN FUNDS THAT REQUIRE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE FOR THIS ITEM. 
          UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT'S LISTED HERE IS THE, UH, 
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CONTRACT AMOUNT, UH, THAT WAS ORIGINALLY STATED AS THE, UH, MAXIMUM NOT TO EXCEED CONTRACT AMOUNT OF 935,000, UH, $495. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE, UH, THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU, UH, IS AN EXPENDITURE OF THAT AMOUNT IN THE STREET SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND. 
          NOW, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT, UH, YOU, YOU JUST APPROVED A CONTRACT FOR SLIGHTLY LESS THAN THAT. 
          SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT, UH, BASED ON THAT CONTRACT AMOUNT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, I MEAN, YOU CAN APPROPRIATE MORE FUNDS THAN WHAT THAT CONTRACT IS. 
          YOU COULD LEAVE IT LIKE THIS, YOU COULD, UH, MAKE YOUR MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE IT JUST AT THE CONTRACT AMOUNT THAT YOU JUST APPROVED. 
          UH, BUT, BUT WHAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU IS $935,495. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, THAT'S FROM THAT C UH, STREET SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND. 
          UH, SO JUST TO NOTE THAT AFTER THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT, WE WOULD PROJECT OUR ENDING FUND BALANCE TO BE, UH, JUST UNDER $4.3 MILLION IF WE DID SPEND $935,000 ON THESE SERVICES OUT OF THAT FUND, UH, FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. 
          SUCCINCT. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          STEVEN, ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT'S THE ACTUAL AMOUNT SO I CAN WRITE IT DOWN? 8 7 2 2 31. 
          THAT NUMBER? YES, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY, I'M READY. 
          I'VE GOT A REALLY QUICK QUESTION TOO. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          SO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, THE, THAT, UM, STREETS FUND IS ALSO A FUNDING SOURCE. 
          I THINK I KNOW THE QUESTION OF THIS, BUT ARE YOU, ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT FUND AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN COVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS AND WHATEVER WE'RE DOING AT THE TOD? WE, WE ARE. 
          SO, SO SOME OF THAT, AND I KNOW THAT WE, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH THE, UH, ADDISON JUNCTION IN, IN PREVIOUS ITERATIONS, THAT, UH, THE POTENTIAL WITH THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, UM, SO IF THAT COMES TO FRUITION AT, AT THROUGH SOME FUTURE COUNCIL ACTION, ANYTHING THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON THAT PROJECT, WE WOULD WANT TO ULTIMATELY THE, THAT HERS TO REIMBURSE THOSE FUNDS THAT IT'S ESSENTIALLY BORROWING FROM, UH, TO, TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE, WE ARE MONITORING THAT AND, UM, BUT, BUT YES, THAT, THAT WOULD BE OUR PLAN AND IF COUNSEL DECIDED NOT TO DO A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, THEN WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, JUST PULL IT FROM, FROM THESE. 
          SO YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THE TIMING OF ALL THIS, WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD COMPLETE AND ACTUALLY HAVE VALUE IN THE TURS AND BE ABLE TO START PAYING BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE, UM, THE, THE ORDINANCE WITH THE CORRECTED AMOUNT OF $872,231. 
          I'LL SECOND AND A SECOND FROM RANDY. 
          IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? NAY. 
          NAY. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          [c.  Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving a professional services agreement with Kimley Horn and Associates for the Addison Junction public infrastructure design in an amount not to exceed $2,349,425; and authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement.]
UH, ITEMS FIVE C ITEM FIVE C PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH KIMBERLY HORNE AND ASSOCIATES FOR THE ADDISON JUNCTION PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,349,425 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. 
          HELLO, BECKY. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          BECKY DEVINNEY, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING. 
          I'M GONNA GO AS FAST AS I CAN, UM, TO GET THROUGH THIS. 
          SO KEEP IN MIND, UM, WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT CAME TO YOU, UM, IN SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2025. 
          LAST YEAR. 
          UM, THE ZONING CAME TO COUNCIL FOR THE ADDISON JUNCTION PROJECT, UM, FEBRUARY 10TH, 2026. 
          WHERE WE ARE TODAY IS WORKING THROUGH THAT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING YOU AND SEEKING APPROVAL FROM YOU TONIGHT TO, UM, GO THROUGH THAT DESIGN, UH, PROPOSAL FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE ADDISON JUNCTION PROJECT. 
          UM, THROUGH THE NEXT PHASES WE'LL BE WORKING ON PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, UM, WORKING THROUGH THE ACTUAL OVERALL DESIGN, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT SOON. 
          UM, WE WILL ULTIMATELY GO THROUGH THAT DESIGN PROCESS, GET INTO BID PHASE. 
          WE PLAN TO USE THE COMPETITIVE SIL PROPOSAL, UH, PROCESS AND THEN ULTIMATELY GET TO CONSTRUCTION. 
          UM, JUST A REMINDER, THIS IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE ADDISON JUNCTION PLAN. 
          UM, YOU'LL SEE A SIMILAR GRAPHIC OF THIS HERE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES, BUT IT WILL NOT HAVE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT RENDERINGS, UM, THAT SHOWS THE DIFFERENT, UH, STRUCTURES THAT ARE PLANNED FOR THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, THIS SLIDE YOU SAW, UH, BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, I BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND, UH, SHOW YOU IT AGAIN FOR ONE SIMPLE REASON. 
          UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST, UM, THE, THE ONE THAT'S THE LAST FROM THE BOTTOM, UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE COST, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE CURRENT PROPOSAL RANGE WAS BETWEEN 15 AND 22 MILLION. 
          AND IT WAS SHOWING THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE STREET INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE AND STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, THAT ALL OF THAT WAS TO BE PLANNED, UM, TO BE REPAID BY THE TURS 
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AS A PART OF THE STREET AND THE PARKS IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO THIS WILL MAKE SENSE TO YOU HERE IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES WHEN I TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE OVERALL COST. 
          UM, STAFF WENT THROUGH A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL PROCESS. 
          UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE WHOLE RFQ, THAT STAFF HAD, WE HAD ABOUT 123 INDIVIDUALS THAT SUBMITTED ON THAT RFQ. 
          WE TOOK THAT RFQ AND LOOKED AT THE FOUR CATEGORIES THAT WE NEEDED, WHICH WERE WATER, SEWER, UM, STORM WATER AND STREETS, AND EVALUATED THAT ALONG WITH, UM, THE PARKS COMPONENTS FROM A LANDSCAPE ARCHETYPE PERSPECTIVE. 
          AND PRO PRODUCED AN OVERALL GRAPHIC THAT SHOWED WHICH FIRMS ACTUALLY SUBMITTED AND WERE QUALIFIED AND WERE SELECTED, UM, IN THOSE CATEGORIES. 
          UM, FROM THERE WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO FOUR DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS, UM, AND ASKED THEM TO SUBMIT US A FIVE PAGE DOCUMENT. 
          WE GAVE THEM A WEEK TO PRODUCE THAT DOCUMENT TO PROPOSE TO US HOW THEY WOULD WORK THROUGH, UM, AND PROPOSE ON PUTTING THIS PROJECT TOGETHER. 
          WE LOOKED AT SCHEDULE, WE LOOKED AT OVERALL, UH, PROJECTS THAT WERE SIMILAR IN TYPE OF DESIGN, UM, THEIR PROJECT TEAM, UM, AND HOW THEY WOULD DELIVER THIS PROJECT AND WHAT, HOW THEY WOULD PHASE THAT. 
          UM, A GROUP OF STAFF WORKED THROUGH THAT OVERALL PROCESS, UM, AND ONLY TWO OF THE FOUR SUBMITTED. 
          UM, THOSE TWO FIRMS, WE REVIEWED BOTH OF THEIR SUBMISSIONS AND FROM THERE WE SELECTED ONE FIRM, WHICH WAS KIMLEY HORN AND WE WORKED THROUGH CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH KIMLEY HORN. 
          WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM THREE DIFFERENT TIMES, UM, WORKING THROUGH HOW WE GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          UM, AND THROUGH THOSE NEGOTIATIONS AND REDUCTION IN SCOPE OR FEE, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE AN OVERALL APPROXIMATE 10% COST REDUCTION, WHICH IS ABOUT $250,000. 
          SO TONIGHT I'M SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL FOR THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE DESIGN, UM, FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE ADDISON JUNCTION. 
          SO OVERALL, UM, YOU'RE ALL VERY AWARE OF THIS, IT'S THE 18 ACRE PROJECT BETWEEN ADDISON SPECTRUM, UM, ADDISON CIRCLE, AND ARAPAHO UM, THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE ROADWAY, STREETSCAPE, SIDEWALKS, TRAIL CONNECTIONS, THE PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES, STORMWATER, WASTEWATER, UM, A LOT OF PLANTINGS AND LANDSCAPE PARKING LOTS. 
          UM, THOSE PASSIVE AND ACTIVE OPEN SPACES AND LIGHTING. 
          THIS OVERALL MAP IS KEY, UM, BECAUSE YOU'LL SEE THAT WHAT IS IN RED HATCH IS ACTUALLY WHAT QIP WILL BE DESIGNING. 
          UM, WHAT IS IN THE TURQUOISEY? UM, LIGHTER BLUE COLOR IS WHAT IS PACKAGE ONE, UM, AND PACKAGE ONE IS ACTUALLY THAT CIVIL INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN. 
          UM, WHAT YOU SEE IN THE MORE, UH, THE, THE DARKER BLUE, UM, IS ACTUALLY PACKAGE TWO, WHICH IS PART THREE, WHICH IS WHERE WE GET INTO THE STREETSCAPE AND LANDSCAPE, UM, AND PARKS DESIGN. 
          AND THEN THE GREEN SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP IS ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE QUORUM DRIVE PROJECT. 
          SO I BREAK THIS DOWN SO YOU CAN JUST KIND OF SEE THE OVERALL. 
          UM, WHAT THIS WILL DO IS PROVIDE ALL OF THE WATER SEWER, UM, STORM DRAIN, STREET SCAPE ROADWAY, UM, IN THE AREAS THAT YOU SEE THAT ARE IN THE BLUES. 
          THIS IS KIND OF AN OVERALL PROJECT SCHEDULE. 
          UM, I KNOW IT'S PRETTY BUSY AND, AND HARD TO READ. 
          WHAT I WANT YOU TO FOCUS IN ON IS PART ONE, WHICH IS THE OVERALL, UM, PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND 30% DESIGN. 
          THAT'S WHERE THERE'S GONNA BE HEAVY, UM, PUBLIC INPUT, COORDINATION, UM, AND OVERALL, UH, DESIGN. 
          THIS CONTRACT IS NOT ONLY JUST THE CIVIL INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN PORTION, IT ALSO INCLUDES THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND ALL THE SUB CONSULTS IT'S GONNA TAKE, WHETHER IT'S A SURVEYOR, UM, OR WHETHER IT'S A GEOTECHNICAL FIRM TO WORK THROUGH THE OVERALL PROJECT. 
          UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, AND I KNOW IT'S REALLY TINY, SO I HAD TO WRITE IT DOWN. 
          LET ME GET TO THAT SLIDE. 
          UM, OUR PLAN IS TO, BY MID-JUNE, BE COMPLETED WITH THE OVERALL 30% CONCEPT DESIGN FOR PACKAGE ONE, WHICH IS THAT CIVIL INFRASTRUCTURE PACKAGE. 
          UM, AND THEN TO WORK TO GET THAT OVERALL PROJECT COMPLETED IN THE SEPTEMBER OCTOBER DESIGN PHASE. 
          UH, SO TIMEFRAME, THAT'S THE A HUNDRED PERCENT DESIGN. 
          UM, SO THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH, UH, BID SERVICES IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AND OPEN BIDS, UM, IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER AND BRING IT TO YOU BY THE END OF THE YEAR AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING FOR AN APPROVAL OF THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT. 
          UM, ONE THING THAT WAS IMPORTANT AS WE REVIEWED THIS WITH THE CONSULTANT, UM, WAS TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT HOW WE COULD GO AHEAD AND START PACKAGE TWO, WHICH IS THE, UM, OPEN SPACE AND THE PARKS, THE STREET SCAPING AND LANDSCAPING. 
          SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BEGIN THAT, UH, 60% DESIGN ABOUT THE TIME THAT WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT OF WHERE WE'RE AT, UM, REALLY CLOSE TO THE END OF DESIGN OF THE CIVIL ASPECTS. 
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SO WE NEED THE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE TO KNOW WHERE ALL THE UTILITIES ARE BEFORE WE CAN START WORKING ON THE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS OF ALL OF THE TREE PLANTINGS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          UM, IT ALSO INCLUDES, UM, OTHER ELEMENTS LIKE THE PICKLEBALL COURT THAT YOU APPROVED BACK IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT. 
          SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF, OF THE PROJECT. 
          UM, WHAT WE'RE ASKING TODAY IS FOR YOU TO APPROVE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH KIMBERLY HORN AND THE AMOUNT OF $2,349,425 FOR ADDISON JUNCTION. 
          UM, THIS IS, AND THE REASON WHY I SHOWED YOU THAT SLIDE A FEW MINUTES AGO, UM, THIS IS ESTIMATED ON A 20 TO $22 MILLION, UM, CONSTRUCTION FEE, WHICH IS AN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU BACK IN SEPTEMBER. 
          UM, SHOWING YOU THE OVERALL COST WE HAD ANTICIPATED. 
          IT DOES INCLUDE A 30% CONTINGENCY. 
          THIS IS VERY CUSTOMARY AT THIS TIMEFRAME BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY DESIGN. 
          AND AT THIS POINT, UM, WE USE A VERY HIGH CONTINGENCY. 
          AND AS WE WORK THROUGH DESIGN TO GET TO A HUNDRED PERCENT, THE CONTINGENCY WILL DECREASE A DECREASE. 
          UM, IT ALSO IS VERY CUSTOMARY TO SEE AN ENGINEERING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BE BETWEEN 10 TO 15% OF THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION BUDGET. 
          UM, THE WAY THAT THE PROJECT IS PLANNED TO BE FUNDED, AND STEVEN CAN GET INTO MORE DETAIL ON THIS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, UM, BUT 12% WILL COME FROM THE UTILITY FUND, 6% FROM THE STORMWATER FUND, AND ABOUT 82% OF ROADWAY STREET SCAPE AND AMENITIES. 
          UM, THOSE WILL BE FROM THE STREETS, UM, FUNDED SELF PROJECTS FUND AND SOME OF THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE GOAL WOULD BE FOR THOSE TO BE REIMBURSED BY A FUTURE TOURS. 
          AND SO WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          DEREK, DO WE HAVE AN ORIGINAL BUDGET FOR THIS? FOR THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION OR THE DESIGN? THE DESIGN, UM, WE ESTIMATED THAT IT WOULD BE 10 TO 15% OF THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION. 
          THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION BUDGET THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER WAS BETWEEN UM, 15 AND 22 MILLION. 
          THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE AT THIS POINT HAS COME IN BETWEEN 20 AND 22 MILLION. 
          OKAY, THANKS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO I LOVE THE IDEA THE JUNCTION. 
          I WANT IT TO HAPPEN. 
          I LOVE EVERYTHING WE'VE SEEN FROM QIP CHAD, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 
          SORRY WE'RE KEEPING HERE SO LATE. 
          UM, BUT I HAVE TO ASK THIS QUESTION. 
          SO HAVE WE HEARD FROM THEM, IS THIS DEFINITELY GONNA HAPPEN? UM, DO WE HAVE A COMMITMENT? I'VE SEEN PLENTY OF GREAT PROJECTS AND GREAT DEVELOPERS NOT BE ABLE TO GET FINANCIALS, AND MY CONCERN WOULD BE WE START TO SPEND $2.3 MILLION AND THE PROJECT DOESN'T HAPPEN. 
          SO WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? UM, GO AHEAD DAVID. 
          YEAH, UH, CHAD'S BEEN, HAS KEPT US UP TO DATE ALONG THE WAY AND, AND IT'S FULL STEAM AHEAD. 
          WE'VE HEARD NOTHING BUT COMMITMENT FROM HIM. 
          I WILL SAY ON THE OFFICE SIDE, WE HAVE SET UP MANY GOOD CONVERSATIONS. 
          CHAD'S HAD VERY GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH OFFICE TENANTS THAT COULD EVEN ACCELERATE THE OFFICE AT THIS POINT. 
          I DON'T WANNA SPEAK TOO MUCH AHEAD, BUT THE CONVERSATION'S HAVE BEEN VERY POSITIVE, UM, WITH WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, BUT NO COMMITMENT. 
          WE, WE DON'T HAVE A SIGNED COMMITMENT LETTER THAT SAY, HEY, THIS WILL HAPPEN. 
          AND THE ONLY REASON I ASK IS WE'VE HAD ONE PROJECT DROP OUT. 
          IF WE STARTED THIS PLANNING RIGHT NOW WITH ROADS AND STREETS AND SEWER AND WE HAD TO GO TO A THIRD DEVELOPER, ALL THAT WOULD CHANGE, WOULDN'T IT? WELL, I THINK THE GOOD POINT TO MAKE WITH THE OVERALL PROJECT IS A LOT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALL NEEDS TO BE REPLACED NO MATTER WHAT. 
          IT'S, SOME OF THE SANITARY SEWER SPECIFICALLY IS ALREADY AT THE POINT OF, UM, BEING IN OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM NEEDS TO, SO THIS ISN'T REALLY SPECIFIC FOR EXACT, FOR ANY ONE PROJECT, IT, IT IS GOING TO BENEFIT THE PROJECT, BUT IT IS ALSO INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED IN SOME CASES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALSO, JUST REMIND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE MUCH FURTHER ALONG WITH THIS PROJECT THAN WE WERE WITH THE PREVIOUS PROJECTS. 
          WE ONLY GOT TO THE MOU STAGE WITH THE PREVIOUS ONES. 
          WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE SIGNED AGREEMENT. 
          YEAH, NO, I UNDERSTAND. 
          I REALLY WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. 
          I JUST, I JUST HAD TO ASK THE QUESTION. 
          SURE, NO PROBLEM. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HOWARD, YOU MAY HAVE COVERED THIS AND IT'S LATE, SO I DON'T KNOW. 
          THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS 15 TO 22 MILLION. 
          DOES THAT INCLUDE THIS 2.3 OR IS THIS 2.3 IN ADDITION TO THE 41 2 THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? THE 2.3 IS IN ADDITION TO THE 15 TO 22 MILLION, THE 15 TO 22 MILLION WAS ESTIMATE OF A CONSTRUCTION COST. 
          SO THE ES AND THOSE ARE ALL RANGES AT THIS POINT. 
          UM, SO IT WAS NOT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE 10 TO 15% OF THAT ABOVE THE 41.2 MILLION, ANOTHER 2.3. 
          SO 10 TO 15%. 
          I JUST BROUGHT THAT UP FOR YOU TO SIMPLY UNDERSTAND THAT A $2.3 MILLION CONTRACT IS CUSTOMARY TO SEE ON A $22 MILLION CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THE 22 MILLION COULD BE LESS, I MEAN, YOU'RE, THERE'S A RANGE THERE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO THE 41 2 
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AT THIS POINT IS THE HIGHEST YOU'RE EXPECTING, BUT IT'S ANOTHER 2.3 ON TOP OF IT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE IT. 
          I JUST WANNA KNOW. 
          I'M JUST THAT THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE OVERALL, UH, 41.2, BUT THE, AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE OF A 30% CONTINGENCY, THAT RANGE IS VERY HIGH. 
          SO WE EX WE ARE HOPING AND EXPECTING FOR US TO COME WITHIN THAT 41.2, WHICH WOULD THEN INCLUDE THE DESIGN. 
          OKAY, I UNDERSTAND. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HOWARD, IS THERE A MOTION, A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE, FIVE CI SECOND FIVE C. 
          THANK, THANK YOU DAN FOR THE SECOND AND, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. 
          ITEM FIVE C IS APPROVED. 
          OKAY. 
          ITEMS 
          [d.  Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving a purchase agreement between the Town of Addison and Advanced Security Technologies LLC for the MVB3X Modular Vehicle Barriers and authorizing the City Manager to execute the purchase in an amount not to exceed $99,934.]
          [e.  Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving a rental agreement between the Town of Addison and Advanced Security Technologies LLC for the rental of MVB3X Modular Vehicle Barriers for the 2026 special event season; and authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement in an amount not to exceed $91,650.]
FIVE D AND FIVE E. 
          UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE PRESENTATION FOR BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS. SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ BOTH OF THOSE AND THEN WE WILL POTENTIALLY HAVE TWO MOTIONS, UH, ONE FOR EACH OF THOSE. 
          UH, FIVE D PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND ADVANCED SECURITY TECHNOLOGIES LLC FOR THE MVB THREE X MODULAR VEHICLE BARRIERS AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE PURCHASE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $99,934 FIVE E PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING A RENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND ADVANCED SECURITY TECHNOLOGIES LLC FOR THE RENTAL OF MVB THREE X MODULAR VEHICLE BARRIERS FOR THE 2026 SPECIAL EVENT SEASON. 
          AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT IN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $91,650. 
          WELCOME BACK, BECKY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I HAVE CHIEF FREEZE HERE WITH ME TOO, SO HE CAN ASK, UH, ANSWER QUESTIONS. 
          UM, SO, UH, OUR DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WORK TOGETHER ON THIS ITEM AND SO I'M HAPPY TO PRESENT IT TODAY. 
          UM, I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE, AND I KNOW THAT YOU WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AND THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE ANNUALLY BRING BACK TO YOU. 
          SO LAST YEAR, MERIDIAN BARRIERS WERE USED FOR TASTE, UM, KABOOM AND OCTOBER FEST DURING THE 2025 SEASON. 
          UM, THROUGH THAT PROCESS, UM, I BECAME AWARE OF SOME NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT ALSO PD HAD LOOKED AT. 
          UM, BUT WE HAD SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT USING OUR GRANT, UM, THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A FEW MINUTES. 
          SO WE HAVE NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT SEVERAL OTHER SURROUNDING MUNICIPALITIES ARE USING. 
          UM, WE HELD MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES WITH POLICE, FIRE PARKS, PUBLIC WORKS, UM, OUR TEAM, UH, AND THEN SPECIAL EVENTS TOGETHER. 
          AND WE EVEN HELD A HANDS-ON DEMONSTRATION TO LOOK AT THIS. 
          I ACTUALLY SAW THIS EQUIPMENT IN CHICAGO AT A CONFERENCE THAT I WAS AT AND LEARNED THAT OTHERS IN THE AREA WERE ALSO LOOKING AT USING THIS NEW TYPE OF BARRICADE. 
          SO THE BARRIER SYSTEM, IT'S HOMELAND SECURITY CERTIFIED. 
          IT HAS LOTS OF DIFFERENT TESTING, IT'S EXTREMELY LIGHTWEIGHT AND THIS IS WHY IT'S VERY INTRIGUING TO ME BECAUSE ON THE MERIDIAN BARRIER, IT'S SO HEAVY, MY STAFF CAN'T MOVE IT. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE IT, UM, WITHOUT A DOLLY. 
          AND WHEN WE'RE ALL UNDER PRESSURE AT THE END OF THE NIGHT TO HURRY UP AND GET THE BARRIERS OUT OF THE WAY AS FAST AS WE CAN TO GET TRAFFIC MOVING, I'M BASICALLY LIKE A SITTING DUCK BECAUSE I CANNOT PICK UP THE BARRIER, WHICH PUTS A LOT OF STRESS AND PRESSURE ON MY STAFF. 
          SO WHEN THIS THING IS ONLY 53 POUNDS AND I CAN PICK IT UP MYSELF, I WAS EX VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS NEW PRODUCT. 
          UM, IT'S VERY ADAPTABLE, ADAPTABLE TO ANY STREET WIDTH. 
          UM, ONE PERSON CAN EASILY ASSEMBLY IT. 
          IT'S, IT HAS NO TOOLS THAT ARE REQUIRED. 
          UM, THERE IS A CUSTOM TRAILER OPTION THAT ACTUALLY CHIEF IS SO GRACIOUS TO, TO PURCHASE FOR US. 
          UM, AND THEN IT HAS THE STOP, UH, STOPPING POWER OF A 16,500 POUND TRUCK. 
          UM, THIS IS KIND OF SOME OF THE GRAPHICS. 
          YOU CAN SEE A GENTLEMAN ON THE TOP LEFT PICKING IT UP. 
          UM, THIS TRAILER THAT YOU SEE IS A 72 U 72 UNIT TRAILER. 
          IT HOLDS UP TO 10 LANES OF BARRIERS. 
          UM, THERE IS SEQUENTIAL LIGHTING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PURCHASING. 
          WE HAVE THE ABILITY IN THE FUTURE TO ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER BANNERS IF WE WOULD LIKE TO. 
          THAT CAN BE USED IN SOME OF THE AREAS THAT MAYBE CAN BE USED FOR ADVERTISING OR FOR EXIT. 
          UM, THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION IN THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER, YOU CAN SEE THAT LADY HOLDING ONTO THAT METAL POLE. 
          THEY ACTUALLY CAN BE MOVED, UM, ALL THE WAY AROUND. 
          THEY'RE VERY EASY TO MOVE. 
          THEY COME WITH WHEELS. 
          UM, AND SO, AND THE, OBVIOUSLY THE TRUCK IN THE MIDDLE IS, HAS RUN OVER THE TOP OF THE BARRIER. 
          THEY'VE HIT THE BARRIER AND THE BARRIER DEPLOYS, UM, AND MAKES THE TRUCK ACTUALLY GO UP INTO THE AIR. 
          UM, THIS IS AN AREA, UM, OBVIOUSLY AT THE UNITED STATES CAPITAL WHERE IT WAS JUST RECENTLY USED. 
          IT'S NOT ONLY HAS THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO BE USED IN THE ROADWAY, IT ALSO HAS THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO BE USED ON THE SIDEWALK AS NECESSARY. 
          UM, HERE'S SOME OTHER PICTURES, UM, WHERE IT WAS RECENTLY USED, UM, IN NAPLES, FLORIDA, UM, AND ALSO IN UM, MINNESOTA. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS. 
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WE CAN PUT SEVERAL OF THESE UNITS TOGETHER, DEPENDING ON THE WIDTH OF THE ROADWAY, UM, WE CAN MOVE THEM SPECIFICALLY TO THE SIDEWALK. 
          AND THEN THE REASON WHY I LACK THESE GRAPHICS IS 'CAUSE YOU CAN STILL SEE FOLKS CAN STILL WALK THROUGH, UM, WHERE WE, WE CAN STILL HAVE THE A DA ACCESS THAT'S NEEDED. 
          UM, THIS IS A CRASH TEST VIDEO CONSIDERING THE TIME OF THE NIGHT. 
          DO Y'ALL WANNA WATCH THE VIDEO? I THINK WE'RE GOOD WITH IT. 
          YOU DO WANNA WATCH IT? NO, I'M GONNA DO THE SAME THING AS THAT TRUCK . 
          IT DOES LOOK VERY SIMILAR  AND IT'S, IT'S KIND OF LONG. 
          HOW ABOUT I EMAIL IT TO YOU? SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SORRY, I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 6:00 AM I'M READY TO GO HOME. 
          I DO LOVE BEING HERE, BUT I AM TIRED. 
          UM, THIS IS THE USE OF THE BARRIERS IN DFW AREA. 
          SO THIS IS THE REALLY GOOD THING ABOUT THESE BARRIERS IS A LOT OF OUR FRIENDS AROUND ACTUALLY USE THESE BARRIERS. 
          RICHARDSON, MANSFIELD, IRVING MCKINNEY, TROPHY CLUB, ETTE, GRAND PRAIRIE, SMU, AND THE TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY. 
          UM, THEY'RE ACTUALLY BUYING THESE UNITS AND TRAILER PACKAGES. 
          AND WHAT'S COOL ABOUT THIS IS, IS CHIEF AND I WANNA WORK WITH THESE DIFFERENT PDS AND DIFFERENT PUBLIC WORKS GROUPS TO WORK ON BUILDING A GROUP TOGETHER WHERE IF WE NEED 'EM FOR A SPECIFIC EVENT, WE CAN SHARE THESE UNITS. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, THE PURCHASE THAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT IS THE JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT, WHICH CHIEF THANK YOU GRACIOUSLY IS UM, HAS A TEAM THAT HAS GONE THROUGH TO GET A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS GRANT. 
          UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE PURCHASING IS A 72, UH, UNIT TRAILER RIGHT NOW. 
          WE'RE ONLY GONNA BE ABLE TO RECEIVE, UM, 16 PIVOT UNITS AND ENOUGH, UH, EQUIPMENT TO CLOSE THREE LANES. 
          THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE THE PURCHASE TONIGHT AND THEN THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE THE RENTAL. 
          AND SO, UM, THIS IS KIND OF THE OVERALL OF, OF THE PURCHASE. 
          UM, IT HAS THE SLIDING WHEELS. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA, UM, CONTAIN A BANNER, A BANNER AT THIS TIME. 
          UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THAT SEQUENTIAL LIGHTING PACKAGE TOO. 
          UM, THE BARRIER RENTAL, WHICH WILL BE FOR KABOOM AND OCTOBER FEST. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE THE RENTAL PRICES HERE. 
          UM, THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE'RE GONNA USE THIS ON OUR FIRST EVENT WILL BE KABOOM. 
          THE UH, ACTUAL VENDOR IS GONNA COME. 
          HE'S GONNA BE HERE, HE'S GONNA HELP US. 
          THEY'RE GONNA TRAIN US IN ADVANCE, SHOW US HOW TO GET IT ALL SET UP. 
          WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE DEMONSTRATION, UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE READY TO GO SO WE CAN DEPLOY THIS ALL OVER. 
          THE THING THAT I LIKE ABOUT IT IS OUR TEAM IS GONNA HAVE THIS TRAILER. 
          WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO COME AND ASK, UM, THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS TO FILL THE TRAILER SO THAT WE'LL HAVE THE ABILITY WITH THE 10 LANES, BUT IT CAN BE USED FOR THE MARY KAY 5K OR THE CHRISTMAS EVENTS AROUND TOWN. 
          IT'S VERY EASY TO DEPLOY AND THEN PICK BACK UP. 
          SO THE UM, EVENT RENTAL PRICING FOR KABOOM IS A LITTLE OVER 50,000 AND FOR OCTOBER FEST IS A LITTLE LESS THAN UH, 40,000. 
          SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT, UM, NOT ONLY FOR THE PURCHASE BUT ALSO THE RENTAL. 
          UM, USING THE HOTEL FUND AND THE JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT. 
          UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS. 
          UM, AND THEN CHIEF IS ALREADY, AND I'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED A, UH, INFORMATION FROM THE ACTUAL VENDOR ON WHAT WE CAN TRY TO PUT THROUGH THE, UM, FY 27 BUDGET PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN WORK TO FILL THIS TRAILER. 
          PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TRAILER AND RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEPLOYMENT. 
          BUT WE ARE GOING TO TRAIN ALL THE STAFF THAT I MENTIONED THAT WAS A PART OF THE ORIGINAL TRAINING AND WORK CLOSELY, UM, WITH PD AS THEY HELP US WORK ON WHAT ROADWAYS AND HOW WE SHOULD CLOSE THEM. 
          BUT WE WILL WORK ON THE DEPLOYMENT AND THEN OF COURSE THE PICKUP. 
          SO WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CHIEF OR I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM FOR YOU. 
          UH, BECKY, GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND UH, I CAN JUMP IN WITH THE FIRST QUESTION. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD DAN. 
          HEY BECKY, GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          SORRY YOU'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 6:00 AM CHIEF, THANKS FOR THE UM, THE GRANT. 
          UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT RICHARDSON HAS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A, UH, A, A CLUSTER OF THESE. 
          SINCE WE USE OUR USE THEIR JAIL, WE CONTRACT THAT SERVICES. 
          HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO HAVING THOSE ON LOAN FOR KABOOM TOWN INSTEAD OF US HAVING TO GO SPEND 50 K? SO IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK PRIOR TO? SO THEY CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOR US 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE MULTIPLE, IT'S ACTUALLY 40 LANES THAT WE HAVE TO CLOSE. 
          IT'S, IT'S HARD TO DESCRIBE 'CAUSE A LANE IS ACTUALLY A CERTAIN WIDTH. 
          WHAT OUR GOAL IS, IS TO WORK WITH RICHARDSON AND ALSO, UM, ON THE PLANNING OF EVENTS TO UM, SEE HOW WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS WHERE WE CAN SHARE WITH EACH OTHER. 
          WE'RE JUST NOT THERE YET BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN YET AND OUR STAFF ISN'T TRAINED COMPLETELY YET TO USE THOSE. 
          SO THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO DO IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THAT UP. 
          WE'RE JUST NOT READY. 
          FUTURE BEING 20 20, 20 27, WE COULD PROBABLY COUNT ON IT VERSUS 26. 
          I WOULD EXPECT THAT. 
          I WOULD EXPECT THAT. 
          YES SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU BECKY. 
          THANKS. 
          CHIEF ARLAN. 
          YEAH, BECKY, UM, WHEN YOU STARTED, YOU SAID WE, WE DID WE PURCHASE THE, THE PRODUCT LAST YEAR AND THEN THAT'S JUST TOO HEAVY? NO SIR. 
          LAST YEAR WE USED A MERIDIAN BARRIER, WHICH 
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WERE THE WHITE BARRIERS, UM, THAT WERE ACTUALLY CHAINED TOGETHER. 
          THOSE ARE ACTUALLY VERY HEAVY AND HAVE TO USE A DOLLY TO ACTUALLY, UM, REMOVE, UM, THESE ARE ACTUALLY JUST PHYSICALLY WE CAN PICK THEM UP. 
          RIGHT. 
          DEPLOY THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT ARE THE ONES THAT ARE TOO HEAVY? THOSE ONES WE BOUGHT? NO, WE'VE NEVER, UH, BOUGHT THOSE. 
          THOSE WERE ACTUALLY RENTAL LAST YEAR. 
          WE RENTED THEM. 
          THE TOWN HAS NEVER PURCHASED BARRIERS. 
          THE LAST YEAR, UM, YOU DID THE VERY SIMILAR PROCESS YOU'RE DOING NOW, WHICH WAS YOU RENTED THOSE LAST YEAR FOR THOSE THREE EVENTS. 
          CHIEF BROUGHT THAT TO YOU LAST YEAR. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THE EXACT SAME THING THIS YEAR, EXCEPT FOR THE GRANT IS GOING TO PURCHASE AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND WE WILL RENT THE OTHERS WITH THE GOAL OF EVENTUALLY PURCHASING ENOUGH THAT WE CAN USE THEM ON OUR OWN. 
          YEAH, I WAS THINKING WE BOUGHT SOME CHIEF. 
          WE DIDN'T. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, SO YOU'RE JUST SHARING THAT WHAT WE RENTED LAST YEAR JUST DIDN'T WORK IT AT THE FIRST OF THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, IT WORKS, IT'S JUST THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO USE SOMETHING THAT'S EASIER FOR US TO DEPLOY AND THEN PICK BACK UP, UM, IN ORDER TO EXPEDITE ROADWAY OPENINGS. 
          GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO THE INITIAL PURCHASE IS FOR THREE LANES. 
          24 OF THOSE UNITS MAKE THREE LANES? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU, I I THOUGHT YOU SAID THREE LANES. 
          SO THE, THE OTHER, THE EVENTS REQUIRE 40 AND 30 LANES. 
          SO THAT IS A LOT MORE ON TOP OF THE THREE LANES OF WE ALREADY HAVE ON TOP. 
          WE HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH, WE CLOSE QUITE A BIT OF ROADWAY, UM, WIDTH. 
          YOU MAY NOT REALIZE, BUT IT IS QUITE A BIT OF ROADWAY WITH REALIZING NOW. 
           WINDY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MY MEMORY IS THE SAME AS MARLIN'S. 
          I THOUGHT ONE OF MY FIRST MEETINGS AFTER I WAS ELECTED, WE, WE BOUGHT SOME, BOUGHT SOME OF THESE. 
          NO SIR. 
          UH, CHRIS RES, CHIEF OF POLICE. 
          THOSE FOR THAT WAS FOR THE RENTAL, UH, LAST YEAR. 
          SAME TYPE OF PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          IT WAS JUST TO RENT FOR DISCUSSION. 
          IT JUST WASN'T MY MEMORY. 
          I'M NOT SAYING MY MEMORY'S CORRECT, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT WASN'T MY MEMORY. 
          UH, AND HOW MANY ARE WE BUYING? WE ARE PURCHASING, HOLD ON. 
          I'VE GOT TO LOOK. 
          WAS IT 24, DID YOU SAY? OR 16? I CAN'T, LET ME GO BACK. 
          DOES SOMEBODY KNOW THE NUMBER? DOES SOMEBODY UP HERE REMEMBER IT? SORRY, LET ME GET TO MY SLIDE. 
          I DIDN'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME. 
          SO WE ARE PURCHASING 24 UNITS. 
          24, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY THREE LANES OF TRAVEL. 
          AND HOW MANY ARE WE RENTING? WE ARE RENTING DEPENDING ON THE EVENT. 
          UM, WE ARE RENTING 40, UM, FOR KABOOM, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY, AND THOSE ARE 12 FOOT LANES. 
          AND THEN WE'RE RENTING 30 FOR OCTOBER FEST. 
          SO MY QUICK MATH, WE'RE PAYING, WE'RE PAYING A HUNDRED GRAND FOR 24 OF 'EM TO BUY 'EM. 
          AND IF WE BOUGHT ANOTHER 40, WE, WE NEED A TOTAL OF 64 IS WHAT WE NEED FOR KABOOM TOWN. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? NO, EACH OF THOSE 40 ARE LIKE EIGHT LANES, EIGHT UNITS EACH. 
          THAT'S THE THING. 
          SO SHE SAID THERE'S 24 THAT WE HAVE IN SLIDE NINE THAT MAKES THREE LANES. 
          SO, BUT WE'RE BUYING 24, BUT WE'RE RENTING 40. 
          WELL, FOR BASICALLY THE SAME MONEY. 
          NO, ACTUALLY, UM, THE PURCHASE, THE LARGEST PORTION OF THE PURCHASE IS NOT THE ACTUAL YELLOW, UM, BARRIERS. 
          THE LARGEST PURCHASE OF THE PURCHASE IS THE TRAILER OF WHICH THOSE CAN BE HOUSED. 
          OH, I SEE. 
          YES SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS JUST KIND OF LOOKING. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A VERY LARGE TRAILER. 
          YOU CAN BUY 'EM FOR TWICE WITH WHAT YOU'RE HAVING TO RENT 'EM FOR. 
          IT JUST WOULD MAKE SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND NO, I WOULD'VE LOVED TO USE IF WE'RE USING THE HOTEL FUND ANYWAY, YOU MIGHT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL ACTUALLY THE HUNDRED THOUSAND THAT'S BEING USED IS THE JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT THAT CHIEFS POLICE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH. 
          AND THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND IS THE PURCHASE OF THE TRAILER AND THREE LANES OF BARRIERS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY, WELL THAT, THAT WRAPS IT UP FOR ME THEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT'S A GREAT PROJECT. 
          UM, IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM FIVE D MOTION TO APPROVE? UH, SECOND. 
          I DO. 
          SO THERE'S A MOTION FROM DARREN AND A SECOND FROM CHRIS. 
          UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          A ITEM FIVE D IS APPROVED. 
          IS THERE A MOTION FOR FIVE E MOTION TO PROVE FIVE E MOTION ? I'LL SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          DAN'S JUST A LITTLE DISCUSSION. 
          GOT THAT DELAY THERE DAN. 
          UH, BUT YOU GOT THE SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? JUST A, JUST A QUICK COMMENT. 
          I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT. 
          IF ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE USING THESE SAME BARRIERS, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE US, UH, GET IN SOME KIND OF POOL AND START USING, YOU KNOW, SAVE EVERYBODY SOME MONEY BY SURE. 
          GETTING IT, GETTING, YEAH. 
          LOANING THESE OUT. 
          SO WE A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE. 
          THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION OF WHO HAS 'EM IN THE METROPLEX. 
          SO WE COULD START THOSE RELATIONSHIPS CONTINUING TO GROW. 
          PLEASE CONTINUE ON WITH THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. 
          ITEM FIVE E IS APPROVED. 
          UH, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, I'D LIKE TO, UH, PUSH, UH, ITEM FIVE 
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F TO OUR NEXT MEETING GIVEN THE LATE HOUR. 
          MAYOR. 
          MAYOR, I THINK WE CAN CONCLUDE IT PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          GO FAST. 
          I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION WITH IT THOUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, IT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I'M NOT IN THE MENTAL STATE AT THIS POINT OF THE EVENING TO HAVE REAL DISCUSSION. 
          YEAH, NO, IT, NO. 
          EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? ALRIGHT, SO 
          [6. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.]
ITEM SIX, OUR FINAL ITEM ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. 
          UH, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO SHARE ANY EXPRESSIONS OF THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE, ET CETERA. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE? MARLON YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SHARE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I WANNA COMMEND ASHLEY WHO'S DONE A GREAT JOB WITH ALL THE MOBILITY STUFF THAT BEEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH AND, AND, UH, YOU'VE BEEN UP THERE AT THE PODIUM AND FOR WHATEVER REASON PEOPLE HAVE BEEN, SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT YOU LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE MAYBE THE BAD PERSON IF YOU SAY SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T LIKE AND YOU'RE GETTING IN ALL DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. 
          SO I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT WORK THAT YOU DID AND YOU MADE IT A LOT EASIER FOR US TO FIGURE THIS STUFF OUT. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          MARLON. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? UH, I HAVE ONE. 
          UH, I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE ASSISTANT POLICE CHIEF METZER, UH, TONIGHT, HAVEN'T SEEN HIM AROUND FOR A LITTLE WHILE. 
          HE JUST COMPLETED A 10 WEEK TRAINING AT THE FBI ACADEMY IN, UH, QUANTICO, VIRGINIA. 
          AND SO NOW HE'S ALL TRAINED UP AS WHATEVER HE IS NOW. 
          BUT, UH, I'M, I'M EXCITED TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT HE LEARNED ABOUT, UH, BUT HE SAID IT WAS REALLY GREAT TRAINING AND, UH, I LOVE THAT WE CAN INVEST IN OUR, IN OUR GREAT FOLKS LIKE THAT. 
          SO CONGRATULATIONS TO, UH, TJ AND TO TOWN OF ADDISON AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THAT. 
          ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? WELL, WITH THAT, IT IS 10 28 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED FOR THE NIGHT. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY. 
          GOOD NIGHT.
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