* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present.] [00:00:04] OKAY. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. IT IS FIVE OH ONE AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON MARCH 10TH, 2026, AND THIS WILL BE OUR WORK SESSION. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT WITH ALL MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING GOING [2. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.] INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO. PUBLIC COMMENT. CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA. COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS. CI CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW COUNCIL IS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSSING THE ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON THE FUTURE AGENDA. I DON'T HAVE ANY COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THAT PUBLIC COMMENT ITEM AND [3. Council Member Clarification Requests Regarding Consent Agenda Items. ] MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. COUNCIL MEMBER CLARIFICATION, REQUEST REGARDING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THREE A IS COUNCIL QUESTION OH, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT WERE CLARIFICATION NEEDED FROM COUNCIL ON CONSENT ITEMS? NO, MA'AM. UM, CAN, CAN SOMEBODY GO OVER THE COST FOR THE PLASTERING ON THE POOL? I LOOKED AT IT, IT SEEMED LIKE 92,000. YOU CAN ALMOST PUT IN A POOL FOR THAT MUCH. SO I JUST WANTED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHY IT'S SO EXPENSIVE. WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD TALK ABOUT THAT ONE? JANICE'S COMING UP, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JANET. SORRY. I'LL DO THAT AGAIN. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JANET DID WELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION TO GO OVER THE ITEM RELATED TO POOL PLASTER. IT INCLUDES REMOVING A LAYER OF PLASTER ON THE POOL, PATCHING ANY PITS OR CRACKS OR, OR SURFACE DAMAGE, NOT, UM, STRUCTURAL DAMAGE, BUT SURFACE DAMAGE GOING IN AND APPLYING COATS OF PLASTER. UM, REMOVING THE STAINLESS STEEL GRATES THAT ARE IN THE DECK DRAIN AROUND ALL THE WAY AROUND THE DECK AND REPLACING THOSE WITH, UH, NEW GRATES. IT INVOLVES REPLACING THE DRAINS. UM, WITH DAVIS BACON ACT DRAINS. THOSE DRAINS THAT ARE IN THE POOL HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE, AND SO NEW DRAINS WILL BE PUT IN THAT MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. UM, AND THEN IT ALSO INCLUDES BALANCING THE CHEMICALS AND BRUSHING THE SIDE OF THE POOL FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. UM, IT ISN'T A HIGH COST, BUT IT IS IN LINE WITH COSTS THAT WE PAY FOR RE PLASTERING THE OUTDOOR POOL, THE KITTY PULL. IT'S IN LINE WITH THOSE COSTS THAT WE PAID SEVERAL YEARS AGO. OKAY. I GUESS I, I DID LOOK OVER THE DETAILS. SO A LOT OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID, I READ THAT MM-HMM . BUT I HAVEN'T BUILT A POOL IN A LONG TIME. IT JUST SEEMED LIKE I ALMOST BUILT A POOL FOR THAT PRICE AND I SAW YOU HAD TWO OTHER BIDS AND THAT WAS THE BEST BID. SO, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST WAS HAVING A LITTLE HEARTBURN OVER THE PRICE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE, IT IS A VERY LARGE SURFACE. YEAH. THAT THAT'S A REALLY HUGE POOL. AND, AND I'LL TELL YOU, HOWARD, LIKE I'VE SEEN WITH MY REAL ESTATE CLIENTS, THAT PRICE OF POOLS HAS REALLY GONE SKY HIGH. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY, YOU CAN HARDLY CAN'T, CAN'T GET IN ANYTHING FOR LESS THAN A SIX FIGURE NUMBER THESE DAYS FOR SOME OF USED TO BE 50, 60,000. IT JUST SEEMED LIKE I, I KNOW ONE TIME I RE PLASTERED A POOL. I HAVE NO IDEA. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT COST, BUT IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T CLOSE TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS HIGH AND THOUGHT WE SHOULD QUESTION IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION. IT'S A GIANT POOL, MARLON. YEAH. JANA, HOW MANY LAYERS OF PLASTER WILL THE NEW POOL HAVE? YES. UM, SO THE EXISTING PLASTER JUST HAS ONE LAYER BECAUSE WE DID REMOVE ALL THE LAYERS THE LAST TIME WE REPLASTERED IT, AND THEY WILL GO BACK WITH, I THINK IT'S A SURFACE LAYER AND THEN A FINISHED LAYER ON TOP OF IT. THOSE AREN'T, BUT THOSE ARE, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT. FOR REMOVAL PURPOSES, THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED TWO LAYERS. I'M MAKING THIS CONFUSING. THAT'S THE FINISHED PRODUCT, BUT IT TAKES TWO COATS TO GET THAT FINISHED PRODUCT OF THAT FINISHED PLASTER ON THE SURFACE. OKAY. IS IT, IS IT, UM, BECAUSE THEY BIND TOGETHER, IS IT CORRECT, LIKE WHEN I, THERE'S A QUESTION ON THE CITY COUNCIL QUESTION AND ANSWERS ABOUT HOW MANY LAYERS HAVE WE REMOVED, THAT KIND OF THING. IS IT, THOSE ARE, ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, RIGHT? THOSE ARE REMOVING, REMOVING LAYERS. MM-HMM . THE NEW, THE NEW PLASTER IS, IS IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT THOUGHT PROCESS ON LAYERS, RIGHT? CORRECT. AND WE'RE, WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT THERE'S JUST ONE LAYER OF PLASTER TO BE REMOVED ON THIS POOL BECAUSE WHEN WE DID THIS SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE WATER JET OUR, THE, THE CONTRACTOR DID. WE DIDN'T, BUT THEY WATER JETTED OFF ALL OF THE LAYERS AND TOOK IT DOWN TO THE CONCRETE. GOT IT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. DAN. QUICK QUESTION, JENNA. SO IN READING THE, THE, IN WITHIN THE PACKET, THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT PITTING IN [00:05:01] THE OLD, UH, IT WAS A PIT. AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT? PITTING. AND IT WAS ATTRACTING ALGAE AND IT WAS RETAINING DIRT. WE TRIED TO BLEACH IT. YES, SIR. SO WAS THAT UNDER WARRANTY FROM THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT OR DID IT EXPIRE THE WARRANTY AND IS THEN THERE A NEW WARRANTY ON THE NEW CONTRACT GOING IN AND WHAT DOES THAT CONTRACT LOOK LIKE? YEAH, SO TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH, THE PROCESS THAT HAPPENED IS WE DID RESURFACE THE POOL SEVERAL YEARS AGO. I THINK I PUT IN THERE SEVEN IF WE'RE GOING OFF MY MEMORY. AND WE TYPICALLY GET, YOU KNOW, SEVEN TO 10 YEARS OUT OF A PLASTER SURFACE. SO THIS, THIS IS AT THE, KIND OF THE BEGINNING OF THAT. WHAT HAPPENED IS WHEN WE DID THE RENOVATION PROJECT FOR THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB, WHEN THEY WERE GOING INTO EXCAVATE CONCRETE FOR THE LOCKER ROOMS, THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE RENOVATION PROJECT HIT AN ELECTRICAL LINE THAT WAS NOT INSTALLED PER CODE OR PER, UM, CONTRACT DOCUMENTS OF WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE. AND THAT RESULTED IN THE POOL BEING WITHOUT PUMP CIRCULATION FOR A VERY EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. THAT DID CAUSE SOME PITTING AND SOME STAINING OF THAT PLASTER SURFACE BECAUSE THE WATER WASN'T RECIRCULATING AND KEEPING THE CHEMICALS BALANCED AS WELL. UM, WHEN THE CONTRACTOR GOT THAT REPAIRED AND WENT TO FILL UP THE POOL WITH WHAT WE HAD TO DRAIN THE POOL, WHEN WE WENT TO FILL IT UP, THEY DID APPLY TWO COATS, TWO SEPARATE COATS OF ACID WASH TO TRY TO REMOVE THAT STAINING. AND THEY DID REMOVE A LOT, BUT THEY COULDN'T REMOVE ALL OF IT. RIGHT. I'VE READ THAT, I'VE READ THAT. SO, BACK TO, WAS THERE AN INSURANCE CLAIM FILED BECAUSE THE ELECTRICAL LINES WERE NOT INSTALLED PER CODE AND I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT BILL HAWLEY BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS, UM, MANAGING THAT ASPECT OF, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M SAYING THIS CORRECTLY, BECAUSE THOSE LINES WERE NOT IN THE CORRECT PLACE AND THEY WERE NOT PER CODE, IT WAS NOT THE CONTRACTOR'S FAULT. OKAY. I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING THAT. SO THEN BACK TO THE NEW, NEW TEXTURING WILL HAVE A SEVEN TO 10 YEAR WARRANTY, IS THAT CORRECT? IT WILL HAVE A ONE YEAR WARRANTY, BUT THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF IT IS SEVEN TO 10 YEARS. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST REAL QUICK, ADDISON PERFORMING ARTS CENTER ON, UH, FOUR C. UM, SO THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE NEW SEATS AND THEN, UH, STAFF SHARED A PICTURE OF THE NEW SEATS. AND JUST REALLY QUICK QUESTION IS THE, IS THE, THE COLOR OF THE SEATS SHOWN IN THE PICTURE, IS THAT THE COLOR THAT, THAT, UM, WE'RE CONSIDERING ORDERING ABBY MORALES, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEATER? UM, YES SIR, IT IS. I BELIEVE THAT THE NAME OF THE COLOR IS MIDNIGHT BLACK. MM-HMM . OKAY. GREAT. THANKS. OKAY. SINCE WE'RE, UH, ON THE, UM, BLEACHERS, I DID ASK THOSE TWO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THAT WAS REALLY A, A GOOD RESPONSE, A GOOD, UH, EXPLANATION ON THE TIME THAT IT TAKES TO TEAR IT DOWN. I LIKE ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA IN INCREASE OUR EFFICIENCY, SO THAT'S REALLY GLAD TO SEE THAT IN THE, IN THE SEATS. SO, SO THE COLOR OF THE GRAY COLOR IS MIDNIGHT BLACK? YES, SIR. THAT, THAT, THAT MAY NOT BE THE EXACT COLOR. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PRINT QUALITY CAME OUT OKAY. THE SAME AS THE ACTUAL FABRIC. A LITTLE DARKER THAN THIS? YES, SIR. OKAY, GOOD. THEY LOOK GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY, BRANDY, ARE, ARE WE NOT DOING ANY OF THE CONSENT AGENDAS IN THE REGULAR SESSION OR ARE WE GONNA TRY TO DO ALL OF THAT HERE? THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE ITEM WHERE YOU ASK QUESTIONS AND ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON CONSENT ITEMS. OKAY. WELL, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT D THEN PLEASE, SIR. SURE. UH, THIS ONE WAS KIND OF A SURPRISE TO ME, AND I, I WAS GETTING CALLS FROM PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY LOOKED AT OUR AGENDA AND I, WHEN I SAW THIS COME OUT, UM, I HAD NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT. AND I'M, I'M JUST, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GET A LITTLE INFO ON THIS AND I SEE FLASHING LIGHTS. IS THAT IF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED THAT FLASHING LIGHTS ALL THE TIME COMING INTO THEIR ROOM, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE? I, THERE'S NO PICTURES IN THE PRESENTATION TO SHOW ME WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING, SO. SURE. UM, WE HAVE THIS TYPE OF, UH, LIGHT THROUGHOUT TOWN IN DIFFERENT, OTHER, OTHER INTERSECTIONS. UM, IT'S ACTUALLY A PART OF OUR PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX. PEDESTRIAN BLINKING LIGHT. YES, SIR. IT'S CALLED A RAPID RECTANGULAR FLASHING BEACON FOR SHORT. WE CALL IT AN RRFE. UM, AND IT ACTUALLY IS SOMETHING THAT WHEN YOU GET TO THE INTERSECTION, IT FLASHES SO THAT PEOPLE SEE THAT YOU'RE COMING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION. UM, AND SO IT'S ONLY SOMETHING THAT'S TRIGGERED WHEN FOLKS GET TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA. OBJECTION, ACTIVATED. NOT A BUTTON ACTIVATED TYPE THING. CORRECT. WHAT, UM, UH, WHAT KEEPS ANIMALS AND THINGS FROM ACTIVATING IT? IS THE MOTION TO TAKE HER UP HIGH ENOUGH WHERE IT'S ONLY PEOPLE THAT IT'S DETECTING OR IT, IT TYPICALLY IS ONLY DETECTED BY, UH, OKAY. OKAY. AND SO, SO IT'S A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS SOME KIND OF FLASHING LIGHT IN THE CIRCLE OF, HEY, LOOK OUT FOR CARS COMING AROUND. NO, SIR. THESE ARE ALL PEDESTRIAN SAFETY SIGN ON THAT THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UHHUH . OKAY, MAYOR, I'VE GOT ONE, ONE MORE QUESTION FOR BECKY IF I COULD. [00:10:01] UM, SO I DROVE, DROVE, UH, UP AND DOWN QUORUM LOOKING AT, UH, THE YELLOW SIGNS AND SO FORTH. AND, AND WHAT I SAW FROM BELTLINE TO AIRPORT PARKWAY IS WHAT I'D CALL THE NORMAL YELLOW PEDESTRIAN SIGNS, NOT A NEON YELLOW. AND I'M CURIOUS IF, IF YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, THE SIGNAGE THAT WILL COME WITH US, WILL THAT MATCH THE OTHER, THE OTHER PEDESTRIAN YELLOW SIGNS ON, ON QUORUM DRIVE? UM, I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS TO, UH, SEE THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL, BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN EVALUATE. THIS WILL FOLLOW THE NEW SPECIFICATIONS ACCORDING TO TDOT THROUGH THEIR CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS. UM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THE DIFFERENCE IN THE COLORS OF THE SIGNS, DEPENDING ON WHAT ACTUALLY GETS INSTALLED. IF, IF YOU COULD, YOU MAY WANT TO DRIVE THAT AREA WITH A FOCUS ON THAT. BUT, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE SOME OF THIS IN OTHER AREAS AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE JUST HAVE A LITTLE MISMATCH IN, IN COLORS SURE. THAT WE COULD JUST, UM, HAVE THAT CONSISTENCY ON QUORUM DRIVE, UH, AS WE ALREADY HAVE. YEAH, NO, HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THAT. THANK YOU. THANKS. QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU BACK BEFORE. YES, THANKS. UM, SO BACK TO THE RRFB IF I'M SAYING THAT CORRECTLY, UHHUH , UM, THERE'S GONNA BE ONE INSTALLED IN FRONT OF THE A A C, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. IS THAT CORRECTLY? YES, SIR. WHEN THE, WHEN IT CAME INTO CONSIDERATION AS A PART OF THE GRANTS AND A PART OF THE FEDERAL FUNDS, WAS THERE CONSIDERATION TO PUT ONE AT BELTWAY, UM, BELTWAY AND LA GRAND, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A, GONNA BE SUCH A POPULATED INTERSECTION OF PEOPLE CROSSING TO AND FROM. UM, AT THE TIME THAT THIS WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, THROUGH THE HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, UM, THAT CROSSING DID NOT EXIST AT THE TIME. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN EVALUATE ANNUALLY. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT IS PUT THROUGH THE, UM, THROUGH TECH STOP PROCESS. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT AS AN ALTERNATE LOCATION IN THE FUTURE. AND SOON YOU'RE GONNA SEE ALL THE NEW LOCATIONS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS. SO PART OF THE PEDESTRIAN TOOLKIT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, THAT'D BE GREAT, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S COMING ONLINE IS TREEHOUSE ONE, TREEHOUSE TWO, YOU HAVE THE COBALT'S BEEN DONE, INWOOD, SO ALL THE GROVE, ALL THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT, THE FENCES COMING DOWN, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE ACTIVITY AT THAT CROSS INTERSECTION. THANK YOU. SURE. HAPPY TO LOOK INTO IT. OKAY. THANK YOU, BECKY. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHERS? ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. UH, ITEM THREE A COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL SENDS TO STAFF PRIOR TO COUNCIL MEETINGS REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS. UH, THOSE, UH, THOSE ANSWERS ARE PREPARED AND, AND PUT INTO A DOCUMENT, UH, CONSOLIDATE ALL INTO ONE DOCUMENT AND THAT, UH, THAT DOCUMENT IS EMAILED OUT TO COUNSEL AHEAD OF TIME. THAT, UH, DOCUMENT IS ALSO AVAILABLE ONLINE FOR ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN THE PUBLIC. WHEN YOU GO TO THE TOWN WEBSITE, ADDISON TX.GOV, FIND THE AGENDA AND THERE WILL BE A LINK IN THE AGENDA TO, UH, TO DOWNLOAD THAT Q AND A DOCUMENT. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING, MARTIN? YEAH, MAYOR, REAL QUICK. UM, I, I ASK QUESTION NUMBER FIVE AND WHAT I WAS SPECIFICALLY ASKING FOR IS, IS, UM, THE GUIDANCE PROVIDED BY COUNSEL AND I THINK, UM, THE ANSWER WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT. THE ANSWER WAS SOMETHING WHAT WAS SHARED WITH THE, UH, UH, THE TRANSIT, UH, PROVIDER VENDORS. SO I'M, UM, I'M HOPING TO GET THAT THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION, BASICALLY, WHAT WAS STAFF'S UNDERSTANDING OF THE GUIDANCE FROM, UH, UH, FEBRUARY 10TH WHEN WE DISCUSSED, UH, MICRO TRANSIT PARATRANSIT? OKAY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? DAVID, DO YOU NOT THINK THIS WELL, WHAT PART OF THIS DOESN'T? YEAH, THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS IN THAT SLIDE AND I COVERED 'EM, UM, IN MY BULLET POINTS AND LIKE THE COVERAGE TERRITORY, THERE WAS LIKE A MAP YOU ALL SHOWED US. AND, UM, WHO, AND THEN WHO WILL CONTROL THE PARATRANSIT RIDERSHIP DATA? UM, NONE OF THAT. I COULDN'T FIND ANY OF THESE, ANY OF THESE ANSWERS. OKAY. IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE ANSWERS PROVIDED IN THE Q AND A. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHERS, UM, THEN THAT, THAT WAS ITEM THREE. A, UH, [4. Closed Meeting. The Addison City Council will enter a Closed Meeting pursuant to Texas Government Code Sections 551-071 through 090 to discuss the following item(s):] ITEM FOUR, CLOSED MEETING. ADDISON CITY COUNCIL WILL ENTER A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 5 51 DASH 0 7 1 THROUGH 0 9 0 TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEM FOR A, PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 5 51 0 7 1 SECTION TWO AND 5 51 0.087 TO DISCUSS THE EVALUATION OF PROPOSALS RECEIVED IN RESPONSE TO THE TOWN'S REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS RFP NUMBER 26 DASH 14 FOR MOBILITY AND TRANSIT SERVICES, INCLUDING THE REVIEW OF SPECIFIC FINANCIAL TERMS AND NEGOTIATIONS WITH ONE OR MORE VENDORS. IT IS FIVE 15, WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THIS TIME. WELCOME. THANK YOU. UM, YEAH. OKAY. [5. Open Meeting. In accordance with Texas Government Code Chapter 551, the Addison City Council will reconvene in an Open Meeting to consider action, if any, on the matters discussed in the Closed Meeting.] IT IS 5 23 AND WE ARE COMING BACK INTO OPEN SESSION FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION AND THERE IS NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN FROM THAT CLOSED SESSION AND WE WILL MOVE INTO THE [00:15:01] NEXT ITEM. ITEM, UH, SIX, [a. Present and discuss mobility vendor proposals.] A PRESENTED, DISCUSSED MOBILITY VENDOR PROPOSALS. ASHLEY, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ASHLEY SCHROER, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. UM, AT OUR JANUARY 27TH, 2026, COUNCIL MEETING, COUNCIL APPROVED AN ORDINANCE THAT CALLED A SPECIAL ELECTION TO WITHDRAW FROM DART. AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER WORK SESSION ON FEBRUARY 10TH WHERE WE DISCUSSED, UM, WHAT OUR TRANSIT SERVICE NEEDS WERE AND WHAT THOSE GOALS AND EXPECTATIONS WERE IN OUR PROCESS FOR PUTTING OUT AN RFP. THE FOLLOWING COMPONENTS WERE BASED ON COUNCIL DIRECTION AND WERE LISTED IN OUR REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, AND THAT WAS MAINTAINING PARATRANSIT SERVICE AT THE LEVEL THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH DART, PROVIDING RELIABLE LOCAL CIRCULATION WITHIN ADDISON, ESTABLISHING EFFICIENT CONNECTIONS TO NEARBY TRANSIT HUBS, ENSURING SERVICES ARE EASY TO SCHEDULE AND USE THROUGH CLEAR TECHNOLOGY PLATFORMS SUCH AS MOBILE APPS AND PHONE OPTIONS. AND THEN CONSIDERATION OF OPTIONS THAT SUPPORT BUSINESS AND ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS. THE RFP DID GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT SPECIFICS WITH EACH ONE OF THESE, LIKE PARATRANSIT NEEDS TO BE WITHIN, UM, THE 13 BART CITIES AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT. THE RFP WAS PUBLISHED AND IT CLOSED AT TWO O'CLOCK THIS PAST FRIDAY, MARCH 26TH, OR 26TH, MARCH 6TH. UH, WE HAD TWO VENDORS SUBMIT CIRCUIT AND VIA, AND TONIGHT THEIR PRESENTATIONS WILL HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND EACH COMPANY'S PROPOSAL, WHAT THEY ARE OFFERING THE TOWN, AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CLARITY IN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. UM, THIS, UH, PART OF THE PROCESS IS NOT INTENDED FOR A NEGOTIATION. WE'LL TALK LATER ABOUT PRICING AND TALK ABOUT NEGOTIATIONS. THIS IS JUST A CHANCE FOR THE VENDORS TO PRESENT TO YOU AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR ME? OKAY. SO WE'LL HAVE CIRCUIT COME UP FIRST, AND IF YOU WANT TO DO, WE'LL PULL YOUR PRESENTATION UP AND IF YOU WANNA COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND I'LL LET YOU START YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK, AS FAR AS ADVANCING THE SLIDES SHOW YOU WANT THE TUTORIAL, UH, JUST, UH, THERE YOU GO. PRESS THE BUTTON AND WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. MY NAME IS ERIC GRAB. I HAVE TO IN FRONT THE MICROPHONE. OH, YOU CAN'T HEAR ME? OKAY. ALRIGHT. NO, NO DANCING. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO, UH, MY NAME IS ERIC AND I'M THE HEAD OF REVENUE WITH, UM, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, UH, FOR THE REVIEW TODAY, WE WILL TAKE ABOUT 20 MINUTES OR SO JUST TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF WHAT WE'VE PRESENTED IN THE RFP. UH, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, STEVEN COLBY. HE HAD THE, UH, HABITS SEVEN HABITS OF HIGHLY EFFECTIVE PEOPLE, AND, UH, ONE OF THEM WAS START WITH THE END IN MIND. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO HERE. THESE WERE SOME OF THE KEY COMPONENTS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE THAT YOU SAID WERE IMPORTANT TO YOU, AND THEY WERE JUST ECHOED AS WELL. SO I WANTED TO FOCUS TODAY PRIMARILY JUST TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS, THE KEY THINGS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN A MICROT TRANSIT AND PARATRANSIT SOLUTION. SO YOU CAN SEE THEM ALL HERE, BUT WE'LL GO THROUGH THEM QUICKLY. UM, ONE OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES WAS THE, UH, PARATRANSIT CONTINUITY. YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU'VE GOT TODAY IS GONNA WORK AND BE ABLE TO HIT ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, DARK COMMUNITIES. AND THEN FROM A, UH, PERSPECTIVE OF ANY MICRO TRANSIT YOU WANT, FAST PICK UP TIMES, THERE'S NOTHING WORSE THAN SITTING AROUND WAITING, UM, FOR A VEHICLE TO COME PICK YOU UP. SCALABILITY, UM, AND INTEGRATION TO DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES. WE'LL TALK ABOUT A BIT AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT ALL THE KEY THINGS THAT WE SEE HERE. FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, WE'LL MOVE ON. I WANNA TALK TO YOU QUICKLY ABOUT HOW WE GO TO MARKET WITH OUR SOLUTION. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON ON THIS SLIDE, BUT THERE'S REALLY A, A FEW DIFFERENT COMPONENTS. AND I WANNA START WITH THE ONE ON THE, UM, THE FAR LEFT. SO IF YOU THINK OF ANY KIND OF MICRO TRANSIT, UM, SOLUTION, IT'S GOT A VARIETY OF KEY COMPONENTS. THE FRONT END OF THE COMPONENT IS THE SOFTWARE, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A VARIETY OF OTHER COMPONENTS AS WELL. WE'VE GOT OUR PARATRANSIT INTEGRATION, WE'VE GOT SPILL OVER TECHNOLOGY, WE'VE GOT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF VEHICLES. WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE IS I SPECIFICALLY CHOSE THAT ICON OF A PLUG BECAUSE THE NATURE OF OUR SOLUTION IS THAT IT'S A PLUG AND PLAY. YES, WE CAN DO FULL TURNKEY, BUT WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE, [00:20:01] UM, HAS SPENT THE LAST 30 YEARS IN ENTERPRISE SOFTWARE. I'M RELATIVELY NEW, UM, TO TRANSIT, AND THERE IS A FUNDAMENTAL SHIFT IN THE WORLD OF SOFTWARE. SO WHAT THAT MEANS FOR ADDISON, I JUST WANT YOU TO THINK BACK FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, YOUR NEEDS FROM A TRANSIT WERE LIKELY, PROBABLY DIFFERENT THAN THEY WERE TWO YEARS AGO. WERE LIKELY, PROBABLY DIFFERENT THAN THEY ARE NOW. THEY'LL LIKELY BE DIFFERENT WITHIN, UH, THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE A PLUG IN PLAY SOLUTION. SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT OURS IS, MEANING AS TECHNOLOGY SHIFTS, YOU'RE NOT STUCK WITH ONE SOLUTION OR ONE PROVIDER. YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO SAYS, OKAY, I'LL OFFER YOU EVERYTHING. I DEVELOPED THE SOFTWARE, I DO THE OPERATIONS, I OUTSOURCE THE REST OF IT. WE OFFER YOU THE ABILITY TO HAVE A BEST OF BREED SOLUTION. AND IF ONE SOLUTION NO LONGER WORKS FOR YOU, YOU SIMPLY TAKE IT OUT AND LITERALLY PLUG IN A NEW ONE. WHY THAT'S PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW, YOU HEAR ABOUT IT ON THE NEWS EVERY DAY, AI. SO THERE IS A HUGE SHIFT IN THE SOFTWARE WORLD. SOFTWARE COMPANIES ARE DRAMATICALLY CHANGING BECAUSE IN TWO YEARS FROM NOW, SOMEONE FROM THE ADDISON TECH DEPARTMENT IS GONNA BE ABLE TO PUT IN A FEW LINES OF CODE AND BRING A SOFTWARE AND APPLICATIONS FOR TRANSIT. THAT'S GONNA BLOW AWAY ANYTHING THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE. SO ALL THOSE ONES ON THE LEFT. SO CIRCUIT, WE OFFER OUR OWN TECHNOLOGY. WE PARTNERED WITH RCO, WE'VE ALSO PARTNERED WITH ALL THE OTHER PROVIDERS. WE HAVE. WE'VE HAD AGREEMENTS AND ARRANGEMENTS WITH SPARE WITH VIA, WITH ARGO AND SEVERAL OTHERS. BUT THE POINT IS, HECK CHANGES. WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BE STUCK WITH A SINGLE PROVIDER. WHAT WE FOCUS ON AT CIRCUIT ARE THE OPERATIONS. SO HAVING AN EFFECTIVE OPERATION OF A MICRO TRANSIT NOW, IT'S REALLY, UM, THE HEART AND SOUL OF ANY MICROT TRANSITS SOLUTION. THE REST OF THE PLUGS THAT YOU SEE HERE ARE INDEED PLUGS. SO VEHICLES, WE HAVE OUR OWN FLEET OF VEHICLES THAT WE USE, BUT WE'RE NOT STUCK WITH THEM. IF YOU DECIDE IN THREE YEARS YOU WANT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF VEHICLE OR A NEW VEHICLE COMES OUT, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT. SAME WITH OUR PARATRANSIT COMPONENT. WE PARTNER WITH BEST OF BREED LIKE ZTRIP, WHO'S VERY FAMILIAR TO OUR SPILLOVER TECHNOLOGY. WE CAN SPILL OVER TO LYFT TO HOOVER. AND THEN ANOTHER THING YOU'VE HEARD OF A LOT RECENTLY IN THE NEWS IS AV. SO AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES. SO WHAT HAPPENS AS THE TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES, WE'VE ALREADY PARTNERED WITH COMPANIES LIKE, UH, GUIDED AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH WAYMO ABOUT HOW WE CAN LEVERAGE THEIR SOLUTION, BECAUSE IN THREE YEARS YOU MAY DECIDE THAT ADDISON WANTS TO INCORPORATE SOME AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES INTO THEIR SOLUTION. SO THAT'S THE, LET'S SEE OUR STRUCTURE OF HOW WE GO TO MARKET WITH OUR SOLUTION. BUT I'M GONNA DO NOW PASS IT OVER TO DANIEL WHO'S GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH THE ACTUAL PROPOSED SOLUTION. PERFECT. THANK YOU. YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, AS, AS ASHLEY COVERED IN THE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN OUTLINE, A VERY CLEAR, YOU KNOW, PRIORITY LIST OF WHAT THE CITY WOULD BE LIKE, WHAT TALENT WOULD BE LOOKING FOR IN A MICRO TRANSIT AND PARATRANSIT, UM, SERVICE. SO WE TOOK THAT VERY SERIOUS. WE WATCHED THROUGH THE WORK SESSION THAT WAS HELD PREVIOUSLY. UH, LOOKED THROUGH THE, UM, THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THE TOWN TOWN HAS PUT OUT IN THE PAST, UH, AS WELL AS THE, THE RFP. AND, UM, SO STARTING WITH, WITH KIND OF THE, THE SERVICE DESIGN, OF COURSE, TAKING THE, THE TOWN LIMITS, UM, AND FOCUSING ON MICROT TRANSIT SERVICE ON THAT, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, A FEW RALLY POINTS. SO THESE RALLY POINTS ARE, YOU KNOW, EXAMPLES FOR THE MOST PART. THAT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, FLEXIBLE AND UP FOR DISCUSSION, UH, BUT WANTED TO SHOW KIND OF HOW THE, THE CONNECTIVITY COULD WORK. UM, AND THEN THE PARATRANSIT PIECE, CONNECTING TO ALL 13 DARK STATIONS, SO, I'M SORRY, UM, DARK CITIES, UH, AND OPERATING AT THAT 5:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AS THE, THE SERVES IS CURRENTLY OPERATING. UH, AND THEN IN TERMS OF FLEET SIDES, WE, WE LOOKED AT USING AN ALL ELECTRIC FLEET FOR WITHIN THE TOWN AS WELL AS THE RALLY POINTS. UH, THOSE WOULD BE SIX, UM, FULL EV, UM, I ID BUZZ, AND THEN TWO PAIR TRANSIT VEHICLES, UM, THAT WOULD BE SERVICING THE 13 DART CITIES. AND, UH, WE HAVE A LOT IN PLACE FOR SPILLOVER, UH, AS THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GET FAMILIAR WITH SERVICE. DO WE NEED TO ADD MORE, UM, MICROT TRANSIT SERVICES? DO WE NEED VEHICLES, ADD MORE PARATRANSIT VEHICLES? CAN WE USE UBER ZTRIP FOR NON-DEDICATED, UH, AND MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS ALL WITHIN THE EXPECTATION OF A 10 TO 15 MINUTE WEEK? [00:25:03] AS I MENTIONED THAT THE FLEET SIDES AND VEHICLE TYPES. SO WITHIN TOWN WE LOOKED AT USING A FLEET OF ALL ELECTRIC ID BUZZ VEHICLES. WE, WE PUT TOGETHER A, A CONCEPT FOR BRANDED VEHICLES. AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE TOWN ON TO COME UP WITH A NAME FOR THE PROGRAM. WE PUT ADDISON HOPPER, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THAT NAME? WHAT IS THE DESIGN? HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ALL, UM, ON THAT. AND THEN THE PARATRANSIT FLEET AS WELL. SO THE PARATRANSIT, BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE COVERAGE AREA THEY WOULD BE COVERING, THEY WOULD NOT BE, UM, ELECTRIC VEHICLES, BUT WE ASSUMED ONE AMBULATORY VEHICLE AND ONE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLE. UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AS WE GATHER DATA FROM THE PROGRAM, DO WE NEED ANOTHER WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLE? DO WE NEED ANOTHER AMBULATORY VEHICLE? THAT'S ALL STUFF THAT, WITH THE DATA THAT WE GATHER AS WE OPERATE, UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO LEARN AND MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS ON THE FLY. IN TERMS OF A TIMELINE, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM CONTRACT AWARD, WE'RE READY TO MOVE QUICK. YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS TO WORK THROUGH, BUT FROM DAY ONE, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE, UM, THE PROGRAM LOOK LIKE, THE NAME, UH, THE SERVICE AREA, THE KPIS, ET CETERA, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE PARATRANSIT, UM, TIMELINE, WANTING TO GET THAT GOING. IN APRIL, WE WILL HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, ESPECIALLY ON THAT PIECE AS WE, YOU KNOW, REFINE THE REST OF THE SERVICE. UM, SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF PUT A, A 12 WEEK, UM, WINDOW THERE TO GET, UH, MICROT TRANSITS UP AND RUNNING. BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WEEK THREE TO SIX IS WHERE WE WERE LOOKED AT THE, UH, PARATRANSIT FULLY UP AND RUNNING, UM, TO, AND, YOU KNOW, TO, TO OPERATE WITHIN YOUR, YOUR TIMEFRAME. AND OF COURSE, ONGOING. WE'RE CONSTANTLY, YOU KNOW, MEETING WITH THE TOWN WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR WEEKLY REVIEWS, UH, EVALUATIONS, ET CETERA. WE'LL HAND IT BACK TO, TO ERIC. GREAT, THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A, A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE SOLUTION ITSELF, UM, AND THE RIDER EXPERIENCE. SO BY NOW, MOST OF YOU HAVE TAKEN AN UBER OR LYFT, AND SO YOU KNOW, THE EASE AND SIMPLICITY OF IT, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT TO EXPECT FROM OUR SOLUTION. YOU COME ONTO THE APP, IT'S AN INTERFACE LIKE YOU'D EXPECT. YOU SELECT YOUR RIDE, YOU CAN EVEN SCHEDULE RIDES, YOU CHOOSE YOUR, UH, DESTINATION, AND THEN YOU EXECUTE IT AND YOU GET YOUR WAIT TIME. UM, THAT UPDATES INSTANTLY. SO IT SEEMS RELATIVELY SIMPLE, BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW BEHIND IT IS A VERY ROBUST STACK OF FEATURES. SO EVEN THOUGH FROM THE RIDER PERSPECTIVE IT'S SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD, I ALSO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT ALL SORTS OF REALLY, UM, SOPHISTICATED TECHNOLOGY AND OPTIONS THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE AS WE GO THROUGH. UM, AS YOU USE THE SOLUTION. THE ACTUAL PROCESS OF BOOKING RIDES IS REALLY THE APP ITSELF, BUT WE WANNA MAKE IT FLEXIBLE FOR ALL THE USERS IN YOUR COMMUNITY. SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE GOT A WEB-BASED PORTAL THEY CAN LEVERAGE. WE'VE GOT A LIVE OPERATOR, SO, UM, THEY CAN CALL IN AND ACTUALLY SPEAK TO 'EM OR AN IVR MODULE, WHICH IS, UH, INTEGRATED VOICE RESPONSE. SO YOU CALL IN AND YOU PRESS A FEW NUMBERS AND YOU CAN, UM, HAVE YOUR PICKUP SCHEDULED. I WANNA TALK ABOUT, UH, QUICKLY ABOUT OTHER FLEET OPTIONS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE YOU ARE STUCK WITH WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED. SO IN THIS PARTICULAR SOLUTION, WE PROPOSE PRIMARILY ID BUSES, WHICH ARE THE VOLKSWAGEN ALL ELECTRIC, UH, MINIVANS THAT YOU SEE HERE. BUT AS I TALKED ABOUT IN MY FIRST SCREEN, WE ARE PLUG AND PLAY. SO WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER VEHICLES THAT ARE VERY POPULAR, PARTICULARLY THIS, UM, CARSON EES IS A VERY POPULAR, UH, VEHICLE IN SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES WHERE WE'RE SUBSTITUTING SOME FIXED ROUTE, UM, WITH THAT, UM, PARTICULAR OPTION. BUT AGAIN, AS TECHNOLOGY AND VEHICLES CHANGE, UH, WE'RE UH, AGNOSTIC TO THE TYPE OF VEHICLES. SO IF YOU WANT SOMETHING ELSE, WE CAN CERTAINLY LEVERAGE THAT. WE'VE DONE THAT ALREADY. SOME OF OUR CUSTOMERS HAVE WANTED TESLAS AS PART OF THEIR FLEET, SO WE'VE ACCOMMODATED THOSE AS WELL. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL COMMENTED ON, UH, WHEN DISCUSSING THIS IS THAT YOU WANTED A SOLUTION THAT HAD LOW WAIT TIMES. THAT WAS ONE OF YOUR CRITERIA HERE. AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE INDUSTRY AND TOOK AT THE AVERAGE, SO THE GREEN REPRESENTS OURS, AND THESE AREN'T JUST CURVE FITTED FOR OUR SOLUTION. WE DIDN'T JUST TAKE A SPATTERING OF OUR LOWEST WAIT TIMES AND OUR COMPETITORS' LONGEST WAIT TIMES. WE TOOK AN AVERAGE BASED ON ALL PUBLIC DATA AVAILABLE, AND CLEARLY OUR WAIT TIMES WERE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THAT MANY OF OUR COMPETITORS. SAME WITH THE AVERAGE COST PER RIDER. AGAIN, THE ONES IN GREEN ON THE SCREEN HERE, UM, VERSUS OUR COMPETITORS, WHICH, [00:30:01] UH, ARE IN BLUE. AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, THIS COST PER RIDER, BECAUSE THE COST PER RIDER IS PRIMARILY DETERMINED BY DEMAND FOR YOUR SOLUTION. YOU'RE PAYING A PRICE FOR YOUR SOLUTION. THERE'S SOME VARIABLE COSTS IN SOME CASES, BUT REALLY IS, ARE YOU, IS YOUR SOLUTION BEING USED BY THE COMMUNITY? AND IT'S OUR JOB TO HELP ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS ABOUT THE SOLUTION AND IS LEVERAGING IT. AND SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE THE LOWEST AVERAGE PAUSE PROVIDER IS BECAUSE WE AGGRESSIVELY PROMOTE OUR SOLUTION TO OUR COMMUNITIES THAT ARE USING OUR SOLUTION. EVERYBODY'S GONNA TALK ABOUT DATA. OH, WE'VE GOT THE GREATEST DATA TOOLS. AND THE REALITY IS THERE'S PRETTY MUCH PAR ACROSS THE INDUSTRY WHEN IT COMES TO DATA. SO WE CAN GIVE YOU, UM, REAL TIME ANALYTICS ON ALL COMPONENTS OF YOUR TRANSIT ORGANIZATION, BUT HERE'S REALLY THE KEY KEY WHICH CIRCUIT YOU HAVE A DEDICATED CLIENT SUCCESS MANAGER. AND NOT ONLY ARE WE PRESENTING DATA TO YOU, BUT YOUR CLIENT SUCCESS MANAGER THAT'S ASSIGNED TO ADDISON IS GOING TO SAY, HEY, I NOTICED THAT YOUR WAIT TIMES ARE X, THAT'S A 3% INCREASE OVER LAST, UH, WEEK. HERE'S WHAT WE CAN DO. SO YOU'RE NOT JUST SITTING THERE AND REPORTING ON THE DATA, WE'RE GIVING YOU ACTUAL ACTIONABLE ITEMS, AND YOUR DEDICATED CLIENT SUCCESS MANAGER IS YOURS. MEANING YOU CAN CALL THIS PERSON WHENEVER YOU WANT. YOU GET A LIVE PERSON WHO'S DEDICATED TO YOU. IT'S NOT A TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO YOU GET SPILLED TO. IT'S YOUR OWN DEDICATED PERSON AND THEY WILL WORK WITH YOU. AND THEY HAVE INSIGHT AND VISIBILITY INTO THE ENTIRE, UM, SCOPE OF OUR CUSTOMERS. SO THEY CAN SEE THEY HAVE A BENCHMARK FOR WHAT LOOK GOOD LOOKS LIKE VERSUS, UM, WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE. WE TALKED ABOUT AVERAGE COST PER RIDER IN GENERATING THE DEMAND. I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE, THESE ARE ALL PART OF THE RFP RESPONSE, BUT WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH YOU TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS ABOUT YOUR SOLUTION AND THE COMMUNITY IS LEVERAGING YOUR SOLUTION. SO WE DO DIRECT COMMUNITY OUTREACH. WE'LL, UH, GO AND SPOT, WE'LL GO IN TALK, WE'LL HAVE TALKS WITH, UM, UH, UH, SENIOR GROUPS, OTHER COMMUNITY GROUPS, THOSE AREAS, UH, THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE THE TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC FOR USING YOUR TRANSIT SOLUTIONS, COST MITIGATION OPTIONS. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT COST FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE, UH, THE TRUTH IS, UM, THE COST OF THE COST OF ANY SOLUTION IS A KEY CONSIDERATION, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE DIFFERENTIATORS YOU HAVE IN THE CIRCUIT. SO CIRCUIT IS NOT A PUBLICLY TRADED AND OWNED COMPANY, MEANING, UM, SOME PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES, THEY WILL PUBLISH AND IT'S EASILY READILY AVAILABLE THAT THEY'VE GOT TO OBTAIN A CERTAIN PROFIT MARGIN, MEANING FOR EVERY DOLLAR YOU INVEST IN THIS SOLUTION ONLY WITH A PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY, ONLY 60 CENTS IS GOING TOWARDS YOUR ACTUAL SOLUTION. THE OTHER 40 IS THEIR PUBLIC, THEIR OTHER PUBLIC GOALS, THEIR PROFIT MARGIN. WE DON'T OPERATE LIKE THAT. FOR EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND WITH CIRCUIT 81 CENTS IS GOING BACK INTO THE SOLUTION, A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. SO EVEN IF YOU WERE PAYING THE EXACT SAME FAIR, YOU ARE GETTING CONSIDERABLY MORE WITH OUR SOLUTION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE A 39 TO 41% PROFIT MARGIN. OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO TO HELP MITIGATE THE COST ADVERTISING, MANY OF OUR CLIENTS LEVERAGE OUR ADVERTISING TEAM. SO WE HAVE A DEDICATED TEAM THAT SELLS ADVERTISING ON BEHALF OF THE CITIES, AND THEY CREATE WRAPS AS YOU SEE HERE. BUT WE ALSO HAVE OTHER ADVERTISING OPTIONS INCLUDING, UH, DIGITAL ADV, DIGITAL OPTIONS WITHIN OUR APP ITSELF. WE ALSO HAVE A FULL-TIME TEAM DEDICATED TO FINDING FUNDING. SO FUNDING SOURCES ARE ALWAYS BECOMING AVAILABLE, BUT BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. SO OFTEN WE'LL FIND PRIVATE PARTNERS TO HELP FUND THE SOLUTION AND WORK WITH YOU AND HAVE A COMBINED SOLUTION FOR, UM, YOUR TOWN. SO OUR COMMERCIAL HERE, WE'VE DONE MILLIONS OF TRIPS. UH, WE'RE OPERATING IN 50 CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND ON DEMAND EV SERVICES IS WHAT WE DO. WE'RE NOT THE LOCAL BUS COMPANY. WE'RE NOT A SOFTWARE COMPANY. WE ARE A TRANSIT PURE TRANSIT COMPANY. SOME OF OUR CUSTOMER HIGHLIGHTS, YOU CAN READ ABOUT THOSE IN THE RFP. I WON'T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO DANIEL BECAUSE WE ALSO [00:35:01] PROVIDED AN ALTERNATE SOLUTION FOR YOU AS WELL. YEAH, THANK YOU. THIS WILL BE QUICK. YOU KNOW, I, I WANTED TO THROW THIS IN 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THERE'S, THERE'S UNKNOWNS HERE, UM, WITH WHERE THE TOWN'S AT WITH, UM, THE, THE REGIONAL, YOU KNOW, TRANSIT OPTIONS AND, AND WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. UM, BUT, BUT HEARING, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A NEED FOR CIRCULATORS IN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, ET CETERA, UM, WE WANNA PRESENT ANOTHER OPTION WHETHER THAT WAS IN PARALLEL WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, FULL BLOWN MICROT TRANSIT SERVICE OR IF THE TOWN DECIDES TO, YOU KNOW, FOREGO THE, THE MAIN CONCEPT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT HERE. WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, OFFER THIS, YOU KNOW, OPTION THAT THE TOWN COULD STILL CONSIDER IN A SMALLER AREA OF THE CITY. UM, BUT, BUT STILL PROVIDING THAT CIRCULATOR SERVICE THAT, THAT YOU'VE SOUGHT. SO, UM, WE KIND OF LOOKED AT A, A COVERAGE AREA, UM, FOR, AGAIN, THAT THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT LOOKING AT WHAT, YOU KNOW, A A MIX OF VEHICLES AND WHAT THAT CAN LOOK LIKE FOR CIRCULATOR SERVICES CIRCUIT HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH ALL VEHICLE TYPES. AS YOU SAW, THE GEM VEHICLE IS, IS HIGHLY, YOU KNOW, UTILIZED IN ENTERTAINMENT CORRIDORS SUCH AS THIS. UM, SO AGAIN, WANTED TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SHOW ITS ALTERNATIVE OPTION THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO DISCUSS WHETHER THAT WAS IN PARALLEL TO THE PARA TRANS, SORRY, PARA TRANSITS AND MICROT TRANSITS SERVICE WE SPOKE ABOUT PREVIOUSLY. AND NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT, UH, BUT AGAIN, WHETHER THAT WAS IN PARALLEL OR AS YOU KNOW, A, A SECOND ALTERNATIVE, UM, TO THAT. AND I THINK THAT IS IT FOR THE PRESENTATION. APPRECIATE THE TIME. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, MARLON. YEAH, THANKS MAYOR. GENTLEMEN, THANKS FOR BEING HERE AND THANKS FOR BIDDING. UM, I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS. UM, ON PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU'VE OR, UH, PART OF YOUR OFFERING, YOU'VE GOT, UH, FOR PARATRANSIT, YOU SAID NO RIDER, REVOL, REEN, UH, RE-ENROLLMENT MM-HMM . REQUIRED. COULD YOU KIND OF TALK ME THROUGH THAT? YEAH, THAT WAS ONE. SO, SO OUR PARA, AS PART OF OUR, UM, PROPOSAL, OUR PARATRANSIT PRI PROVIDER WOULD BE ZTRIP. AND ZTRIP CURRENTLY IS THE SUBCONTRACTOR TO TRANSDEV FOR DARTS AIR TRANSIT SERVICE. THEY ALSO DO THE HOUSTON, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, SAN ANTONIO PARATRANSIT. UM, SO WE, WE MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT DEPENDS ON WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SHOULD YOU ELECT TO LEAVE DART, WHAT WILL DART GIVE YOU, IF THEY GIVE YOU NAMES, ET CETERA. WE CAN MAKE IT AS EASY AS ENROLLING ALL THOSE NAMES INTO THIS SERVICE AND THEY BECOME ELIGIBLE FROM DAY ONE. UM, OR WE CAN KIND OF GRANDFATHER THEM IN WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY, WE CAN SET UP, UH, AN EMAIL AND A CALL IN LINE WHERE SOMEONE CAN CALL, SHOW THAT THEY WERE PART OF THE DART PARA TRENDS SERVICE, AND AT LEAST IN THE BEGINNING GET THEM ACCESS TO A PARATRANSIT. AND THEN DOWN THE LINE WE CAN DO A FULL, YOU KNOW, A NEW, UM, ELIGIBILITY PROCESS IF WE WANTED TO. SO IT'S AN OFFERING OF, WE CAN MAKE IT AS, AS, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE AS THAT IF WE WANTED, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A RELATIONSHIP THROUGH, THROUGH TRANSDEV THAT THAT'S, THAT'S POSSIBLE. NO, NO, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXPECTATIONS THAT ANY INFO WOULD COME FROM TRANSDEV OR, OR, OR DART, BUT MORE, IT WAS MORE SO AROUND THE TBD WOULD DART GIVE THE, THE TOWN ANY SORT OF INFORMATION IF THEY DID THAN, THAN GREAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, AUTO ENROLL. UM, OTHERWISE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO KIND OF DO VETTING FROM OUR SIDE TO ANYONE THAT IS PART OF DART AND ELIGIBLE FOR PARATRANSIT. YOU KNOW, A A AN ADDISON RESIDENT CAN SHOW US THAT AND THEN WE CAN MAKE THEM ELIGIBLE HERE. OKAY. AND, AND DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, DANIEL? UH, DID YOU SAY IF, IF WE CHOSE YOUR SERVICE, IT'D BE, UH, 12 WEEKS TO GET, UH, MICRO TRANSIT GOING FOR THAT? THAT'S OUR ESTIMATE. OUR HOPE IS SOONER, BUT YOU KNOW, PART OF IT DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A WHITE LABEL APP, YOU KNOW, CREATING THE NAME OF THE PROGRAM AND THE DESIGN, THEN SUBMITTING EVEN TO APPLE AND ANDROID TO GET IT ADDED TO THE APP STORE. SO IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA, WE DON'T WANNA, YOU KNOW, SHOW OURSELVES ON THE FOOT BY SAYING SOONER. UM, BUT TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ABLE TO DO SOONER. AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M ON THE SAME PAGE WITH YOU. THE VEHICLES, THE MICRO TRANSIT VEHICLES MM-HMM . RUNNING AROUND TOWN. MM-HMM . YEAH, PARATRANSIT, OUR GOAL WOULD BE WITHIN SIX WEEKS. RIGHT, RIGHT. GOT IT. UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS YOUR, YOU HAD THIS MAP WITH YOUR CUSTOMERS AND, AND SPECIFICALLY IN TEXAS MM-HMM . UM, I SEE THAT YOUR, YOUR CUSTOMER, ONE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS IS VIA LINK IN SAN ANTONIO. SO OUR, OUR SOFTWARE PROVIDER, UM, AS PART OF THIS PROPOSAL IS RIDE CO AND RIDE CO SOFTWARE IS WHAT VIA USES IN SAN ANTONIO FOR THEIR, UM, PARATRANSIT AND MICRO TRANSITS. OKAY. AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE DART WEST, UH, DALLAS WEST, YEAH. VIA DART DALLAS WEST OR WEST DALLAS CIRCUIT. YEAH, SO THAT IS DIRECT WEST CIRCUIT. WE WERE CONTRACTED BY DART DIRECTLY FOR WEST DALLAS, SO THAT STARTED AS A PARTNERSHIP WITH TOYOTA, AND THEN THEY BROUGHT IN DART, UM, [00:40:01] TO BE INVOLVED THERE, AND THEN THEY WENT BACK OUT TO RFP LAST YEAR. THAT, AND WE WERE RESELECTED FOR THAT. IS THAT MICRO TRANSIT? YEAH. OKAY. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER CUSTOMERS IN TEXAS? UH, CIRCUIT DIRECTLY? WE OPERATE, UM, IN, UM, HOUSTON, UH, AS PART OF THE HOUSTON METRO SERVICE. WE HAVE A FEW, UM, DIFFERENT SERVICE AREAS THERE, UH, USING THE CIRCUIT APP. UH, AND THEN OUR, OUR SOFTWARE PROVIDER, AGAIN, USE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN SEVERAL PLACES ACROSS TEXAS, LIKE I MENTIONED IN HOUSTON, IN, IN, UM, IN SAN ANTONIO. AND THEN OUR PARATRANSIT PROVIDER, ZTRIP, UH, ALSO, UH, OPERATES AS PART OF THOSE SERVICES. OKAY. SO ZTRIP IN SAN ANTONIO? YES. AND THEY USE YOUR SOFTWARE? UH, NO. THE SAN ANTONIO USES RIDE CO SOFTWARE, BUT OUR SOFTWARE THAT IS PROPOSED FOR THIS SERVICE IS THAT SAME SOFT SOFTWARE OR THROUGH RIDE CO. OKAY. UM, AND YOU, YOU MENTIONED ONE OF YOUR, ONE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS WANTED, UH, TESLA MM-HMM . VEHICLES. COULD YOU, COULD YOU SHARE ANY INSIGHTS AS FAR AS THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS ON, ON THAT? I SAW ONE WAS, WAS, UH, LOOKED LIKE A TESLA, UM, PAINTED OR WRAPPED IN YOUR CIRCUIT COLORS. MM-HMM . YEAH. SO THAT WAS A PARTNERSHIP WE HAD WITH, UM, BRIGHT LINE TRAINS IN FLORIDA. UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, I, I THINK SOME OF THE, THE TESLA PROGRAMS AND HONESTLY, A LOT OF CITIES AND EVEN OUR PRIVATE PARTNERS HAVE, YOU KNOW, MOVED AWAY FROM TESLA. I, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UM, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE REPAIR COSTS, MAINTENANCE, ET CETERA, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER VEHICLE TYPES, OTHER MANUFACTURERS HAVE BECOME CHEAPER AND MORE RELIABLE. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE WHO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SELECTED A, A TESLA FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S JUST BEEN FOR, YOU KNOW, RIDER EXPERIENCE MAYBE. UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE, YOU KNOW, THE ID BUZZ HAS BECOME ONE OF THE, THE, THE FAVORITE OPTIONS FOR INTERIOR AND COMFORTABILITY. IS THAT VEHICLE AN AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE OR NO, THE ID BUZZ THE TESLA VEHICLE? UH, NO. I MEAN, UH, THE TESLAS HAVE THEIR, THEIR NORMAL, UM, YOU KNOW, SEMI SELF-DRIVING, BUT WE DON'T USE IT FOR OUR SERVICE. OKAY. JUST KIND OF A COOL FACTOR. YEAH, WE HAVE, WE, WE HAVE A FEW, MY, UM, AUTONOMOUS PILOTS OPERATING FLORIDA RIGHT NOW, AND AS ERIC MENTIONED WITH GUIDED, UH, AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATIONS WITH WAYMO AND MAY MOBILITY, SO WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THAT IN THE FUTURE, UM, FOR SLIDING IN AUTONOMOUS. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . RANDY. RANDY, THANK YOU, SIR. UH, FOR OUR VISITORS THAT COME IN FROM OUT OF TOWN MM-HMM . AND DON'T TAKE THE TIME OR REALLY CAN'T DOWNLOAD AN APP ON THEIR PHONE, UH, DO YOU HAVE A PHONE NUMBER THAT THEY CAN CALL? WHAT'S THE EASE OF A ONE TIME, FIRST TIME VISITOR TO OUR TOWN? BEING ABLE TO, TO USE YOUR SERVICE? YEAH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WITH, WITH THE PROGRAM, THERE WOULD BE THE APP, UH, THE WEB-BASED PORTAL. BUT YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THAT WOULD STILL TAKE IN ACCOUNT JUST LIKE, UH, THE APP WOULD, BUT WE WOULD ALSO HAVE A LIVE CALL CENTER, BILINGUAL, MULTILINGUAL, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN JUST CALL IN AND NOT HAVE TO DOWNLOAD THE APP AND THERE WOULD BE PLENTY OF ADVERTISEMENT OR POSTINGS AROUND MM-HMM . TO GIVE THAT NUMBER TO PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING OFF WHATEVER THEY'RE GETTING OFF TO TO VISIT OUR TOWN. YEAH, EXACTLY. WE, WE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, IN, IN BELLEVUE, WASHINGTON, WE WORK, YOU KNOW, CLOSELY ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, FUNDERS OF THE SERVICE IS A TOURISM AUTHORITY THERE. SO OF COURSE THEY HAVE THAT IN WITH THE HOTELS, BUT WE DO ROAD SHOWS, ALL THE HOTELS AND HANDOUT, UH, MATERIALS. SO WHETHER THAT'S PROMOTIONS FOR HOW TO DOWNLOAD THE APP AND, AND, YOU KNOW, REQUEST A RIDE THAT WAY, OR WE WOULD, SAME WAY WE WOULD BE PROMOTING THE PHONE NUMBER AND ALL THE OPTIONS THAT SOMEONE CAN USE AT A HOTEL, UM, TO REQUEST A SERVICE. AND SOMETIMES THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BELLHOPS OR WITH THE FRONT DESK OR CONCIERGE OF MAYBE THEY'RE SET UP WITH AN IPAD AND THEY'RE REQUESTING ON BEHALF OF THE PERSON ALTOGETHER. UH, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, IT ALL COMES, THAT'S PART OF THE MARKETING OUTREACH PLAN AS WELL. OKAY. AND YOU ANSWERED ONE OF THE DEALS WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SCHEDULE A RIDE TO, TO COME, WHICH IS GOOD. YEAH. IS THERE A CASH OPTION IN ANY OF YOUR VEHICLES? IF SOMEBODY JUST WANTS TO PAY THEIR FAIR TO GO SOMEWHERE? WE'VE HISTORICALLY STAYED AWAY FROM CASH COLLECTION. UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT MOST FORMS OF, OF, AND WE CAN DO IT, BUT NOWADAYS THE, THE COST OF COLLECTING FARES IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU'RE GONNA MAKE FROM FARES. UM, SO SOMETIMES THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OFTEN, YOU KNOW, WHY PEOPLE DON'T CHARGE A FAIR AT ALL, BUT, OR IF THEY DO, THEY STAY AWAY FROM CASH COLLECTION. ALL THAT SAID, WE CAN CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, ACCOMMODATE THAT. OKAY. FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR US THAT LIVE HERE, AND WE USE THIS A LOT, THE APP PAY THROUGH THE APP, THAT'S THE GREAT THING. I GO BACK TO OUR VISITORS THAT ARE HERE FOR A ONE TIME THING, UH, YOU KNOW, EITHER PAY, BEING ABLE TO PAY CASH OR A CREDIT CARD. MM-HMM . TAKE CREDIT CARDS IN WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE FORM OF PAYMENTS OTHER THAN THROUGH THE APP? YEAH, I MEAN, CREDIT CARD OR SAY IT AGAIN, SORRY. ZELLE OR ANY, ANY, YEAH. WELL, WE TYPICALLY WOULDN'T DO, YOU KNOW, A A A ZELLE OR, OR VENMO, BUT YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY SORT OF CARD YOU CAN ADD TO YOUR, YOUR MOBILE WALLET, SO A GIFT CARD, UM, YOU KNOW, A CREDIT CARD, A DEBIT CARD, ET CETERA. UH, [00:45:01] YOU KNOW, PREPAID CARDS, ANY, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, UM, COULD BE USED IN, IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE, UM, IN THE SYSTEM. OKAY. OKAY. AND, UH, KIND OF A THREEFOLD QUESTION HERE. WHERE, WHERE WOULD YOUR VEHICLES BE STORED IN THE HOURS THAT THEY'RE NOT OPERATING? WHERE WOULD THEY BE SERVICED? AND WOULD YOU BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING, IF, IF WE USE A, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLES, WOULD YOU BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO PUT THOSE CHARGERS IN, OR WOULD THAT BE ON THE TOWN TO DO? SO? THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE ALL GREAT QUESTIONS. I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF TWO-PRONGED WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND, YOU KNOW, HOW, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY CAN WE GET, YOU KNOW, UP AND RUNNING TO AN EXTENT, UM, BASED ON THE NEEDS HERE. UM, AND YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, A SIX MONTH TERM AND LOOKING, YOU KNOW, AND THEN POTENTIAL EXTENSION, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD PROBABLY IN THE BEGINNING BE LOOKING FOR EXISTING RESOURCES. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN TOWN FOR A COUPLE DAYS. I'VE, YOU KNOW, DRIVEN THE AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO SEE THERE'S SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF EXISTING PUBLIC CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND NOT SOMETHING TO SAY WE WOULD BE PARKING THERE OVERNIGHT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT ALLOWS US TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT OPTIONS WHILE ALSO MAYBE GETTING, YOU KNOW, RUBBER ON THE ROAD AND, AND GETTING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROGRAM GOING. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IN EVERY MARKET WE GO INTO THAT IS THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE OPTIONS. SOMETIMES IF A CITY CAN PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, PARKING SPACES TO US IN A PUBLIC GARAGE OR A LOT, THERE'S SOME COST SAVINGS TO BE HAD, UM, THAT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, FACTOR IN, IF NOT TOTALLY FINE. WE HAVE EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, FINDING THAT, WHETHER IT'S PARTNERING WITH A HOTEL, WHETHER IT'S LEASING OUR OWN SPACE IN INSTALLING THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, TYPICALLY IT'S, WE DON'T INSTALL THE PUBLIC FACING CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE. I THINK THAT THERE'S, THAT'S MORE TIMELY, YOU KNOW, THE PERMITTING, ET CETERA. SO, UH, AND NOT TO MENTION, TYPICALLY WE'RE LOOKING FOR KIND OF PRIVATE, SECURE, YOU KNOW, STORAGE FOR THE VEHICLES ANYWAY THAT THE PUBLIC WOULDN'T BE ACCESSING. UM, BUT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO LOOK AT THAT IS HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE? WE'RE INSTALLING CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR US, BUT DURING THE DAY, PUBLIC CAN COME AND USE IT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHILE THE VEHICLES ARE ON THE ROAD. JUST, JUST ONE MORE, IF I MAY, MAYOR, UH, YOU SAID YOU MENTIONED APPROXIMATELY SIX VEHICLES FOR THE, FOR THE MICRO TRANSIT AND THEN TWO PARATRANSIT MM-HMM . AND THEN IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY, YOU WOULD PARTNER WITH OTHER SERVICES. I'M ASSUMING WE WOULD USE THE OTHER SERVICES IF THOSE SIX VEHICLES WEREN'T AVAILABLE AND THEN IT WOULD FLOW OVER TO AN UBER OR A LYFT TYPE THING, OR THAT THAT'S AN OPTION THAT WE SHOWED WE CAN'T DO, BUT THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN WHAT YOU'RE DOING? NO, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE SIX VEHICLES WE EXPECT BASED ON OUR MODELS WOULD BE ABLE TO SERVICE THE, THE TOWN ITSELF AND, YOU KNOW, THE RALLY POINTS, IF WE START TALKING ABOUT FURTHER RALLY POINTS OUTSIDE OR, YOU KNOW, DURING PEAK TIMES THAT OTHERS MENTIONED DURING THE, THE WORK SESSION IN THE PAST, DURING WEEK TIMES, CAN WE AT LEAST GUARANTEE A CERTAIN WAIT TIME? YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE NOTICING SIX VEHICLES ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY BUSY DURING THAT TIME, UM, BUT IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO PUSH ADDITIONAL RIDES THAT MIGHT EXCEED SAY, 15 MINUTES TO AN UBER RATHER THAN ADDED, ADDING A DEDICATED SEVENTH VEHICLE FULL TIME. THAT'S AN OPTION THAT WE CAN OFFER. YOU HAVE LARGER VEHICLES THAT WE COULD CONTRACT ON A TEMPORARY BASIS DURING OUR FESTIVAL, LIKE OUR KABOOM TOWN WHERE WE HAVE LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE COMING IN. IT MIGHT BE GETTING OFF THE TRAIN SOMEWHERE MM-HMM . TO COME IN, THAT THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE MORE THAN THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE THAT TO DO THAT. YEAH, WE DO THAT. I MEAN, WE DO AS A COMPANY, SPECIAL EVENTS A LOT. I MEAN, WE, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE NFL FOR THE SUPER BOWL WITH THE LARGER, YOU KNOW YEAH. WAY OVER PEAK TIME. 'CAUSE WE'RE BRINGING A LOT OF PEOPLE IN, RIGHT? YEAH. AND YOU CAN DO THAT. YEAH. OKAY. AND WE, WE WORK WITH, WITH STAFF AHEAD OF TIME TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, OKAY, X MONTHS IN ADVANCE OR X WEEKS IN ADVANCE, WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN THIS MANY VEHICLES IN ADDITION, UH, THIS VEHICLE TYPE AND FOR THESE HOURS AND THESE DAYS. UH, AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO THAT ALMOST IN ALL OF OUR MARKETS. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR INDULGING MY QUESTIONS. ABSOLUTELY, CHRIS, THANK YOU. UH, I'LL HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS FOR BOTH OF Y'ALL. UM, AND I'LL TRY TO GET THROUGH THESE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. UM, THE PERCENT OF SHARED RIDES VERSUS SINGLE RIDER, HOW DO YOU SEE THAT IN ADDISON? IT, IT'S, IT'S TOUGH TO SAY. I MEAN, OF COURSE IT'S AN UNKNOWN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE'RE NOT REPLACING EXISTING, YOU KNOW, ON DEMAND SERVICE. SO IT'S, SO IT'S SOMETHING NEW. UM, TYPICALLY WE, WE SEE SHARED RIDES IN THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S 20 TO 30 ISH, UM, RANGE, PERCENT RANGE. UM, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, HIGHER, SOMETIMES SOMETIMES LOWER. SO IT'S HARD TO SAY SPECIFIC, UM, TO ADDISON. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE THERE'S DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, THINGS WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT IN PLACE TO, TO, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE THAT. YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT IS WHERE ARE WE PLACING, YOU KNOW, THE VIRTUAL STOPS, UM, TO, TO DO THAT? AND IS IT, YOU KNOW, IS IN OUR LOCATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE BASED ON OUR HEAT MAPS AND DATA THAT'S SHOWING OUR STARTING OR BEGINNING THEIR TRIPS, WE'RE GONNA PUT IT THERE. SO NATURALLY TWO, THREE [00:50:01] REQUESTS MIGHT BE PULLED TOGETHER. SO, UM, BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SAY WITHOUT IT, YOU KNOW, BEING AN EXISTING SERVICE. RANDY TOUCHED ON THIS, WHO'S GONNA MAINTAIN THE CARS? UH, SORRY, I MISSED THAT PART. YEAH, MINIMUM, MINIMUM STANDARD APPEARANCE. MM-HMM . WHO'S RESPONSIBILITY IS THAT? SO WE HAVE, UH, FROM THE, THE MAINTENANCE PIECE CIRCUIT AND, YOU KNOW, AND ZTRIP, UH, HAVE, YOU KNOW, IN-HOUSE MAINTENANCE TECHS, SO THEY'RE TRAINED, UM, ON ALL THE VEHICLES THAT WE OPERATE. UH, LUCKILY WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES TO BEGIN WITH, THE MAINTENANCE IS LESS THAN YOU MIGHT, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE WITH A GAS POWERED VEHICLE. UM, BUT SO FROM THE MAINTENANCE PIECE, BOTH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE IN-HOUSE TECHS, BUT ALSO WE OPERATE THESE VEHICLES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SO WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE OEMS THEMSELVES TO WHERE WE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THEM, WHETHER IT'S THE LOCAL DEALER THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED HELP OUTSIDE OF OUR IN-HOUSE TAX, UH, OR DO WE NEED TO GO DIRECT TO CORPORATE? UM, WE'VE HAD THEM SEND SOMEONE OUT FROM C CORPORATE BEFORE TO, TO LOOK AT AN ISSUE, A MAINTENANCE ISSUE, ET CETERA. UM, AND THEN CLEANLINESS, YOU KNOW, WE, EVERY, EVERY PROGRAM THAT WE SET UP, UH, IN ADDITION TO OUR, YOU KNOW, MANAGERS AND, YOU KNOW, HIGHER LEVEL MANAGEMENT THAT WE HAVE IN THE AREA, YOU KNOW, WE HIRE, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL MANAGERS FOR EACH AND EVERY PROGRAM. SO THERE'S A, A WALKTHROUGH INSPECTION EVERY DAY ON THE VEHICLES, ON THE, THE MAINTENANCE SIDE, BUT ALSO CLEANLINESS. UM, SO WE'RE ALWAYS STAYING ON TOP OF THAT. AND THERE'S ALWAYS EYES ON, ARE ALL OF YOUR DRIVERS TRAINED FOR MOBILITY ASSISTANCE OR LIKE A DA PARATRANSIT? ARE THEY ALL TRAINED OR IS IT JUST THE ONES THAT ARE DRIVING THE SPECIFIC VEHICLES? SO I, I WOULD NOT PARATRANSIT. THE NICE THING WITH, WITH OUR MODEL, ALL OF OUR DRIVERS ARE W2 EMPLOYEES OF OUR COMPANY. SO, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THEM THROUGH ROBUST TRAINING AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S SENSITIVITY TRAINING, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE WHO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SAY, A DA AND PARATRANSIT. IN, IN SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS WE OPERATE ELECTRIC WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VANS. SO OUR DRIVERS GO THROUGH, UH, THE TRAINING THAT IS NEEDED FOR THAT. BUT THAT, BUT PARATRANSIT OFTENTIMES IS, UH, UH, AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL AS YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S DOOR TO DOOR INSTEAD OF CURB TO CURBS, WHICH REQUIRES, UH, ADDITIONAL TRAINING. SO THE MICROT TRANSIT DRIVERS, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WOULD NOT BE TRAINED TO THAT LEVEL, BUT SOMETIMES WE DO SO THAT WE HAVE BACKUPS FOR THE PARATRANSIT SERVICE. IF SOMEONE CALLS OUT, WE CAN SLIDE SOMEWHERE RIGHT BACK. GREAT. THAT'S GREAT. UM, YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION ABOUT ARE THE DRIVERS EMPLOYEES, WHICH IS GREAT TO HEAR THAT THEY'RE W2. UM, WHAT DO YOU PERFORM BACKGROUND CHECKS ON THEM? YEAH, FULL BACKGROUND CHECKS WITH A, A CHECKER IS A, IS A SOFTWARE PLATFORM THAT, THAT WE USE FOR THAT. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THE FULL DRUNK AND ALCOHOL, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, THE BACKGROUND CHECKS STATED FOR THAT. RIGHT. UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS YOUR APP, WILL IT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, RANDY ASKS A QUESTION, SOME, SOMEONE SHOWS UP, NEVER BEEN TO OUR TOWN BEFORE. MM-HMM . A LOT OF TIMES YOU CAN GO TO APPLE MAPS OR GOOGLE AND LIKE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SHOWS UP AND THAT'S AN OPTION. WILL, WILL YOU GUYS SHOW UP ON AN APPLE MAPS IF WE DECIDE TO, YOU KNOW, USE YOUR SERVICE? YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, IT'S AN ADDITIONAL STEP WHEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, AN INDIVIDUAL PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, IT ADD A SPECIFIC PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO WORK ON THE OTHER SIDE WITH, YOU KNOW, APPLE MAPS, GOOGLE MAPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S INTEGRATED. SO THAT MIGHT BE HARDER TO DO, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE TRIP PLANNING JUST LIKE WITH OUR, OUR TIME SNAPPING FEATURE. SO WE ARE PULLING IN, YOU KNOW, OTHER PUBLIC TRANSIT SERVICES TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SHOWING SOMEONE YOU NEED TO BE PICKED UP BY THIS TIME TO GET TO A TRAIN THAT MIGHT BE LEAVING AT THIS TIME. UM, SO THAT CERTAINLY WAS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR TEAMS WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK INTO. UM, BUT I DON'T HAVE A FULL ANSWER ON IF WE STOOD UP, YOU KNOW, ADDISON HOPPER IS NOT GOING TO SHOW UP FROM, YOU KNOW, GOOGLE OR APPLE'S SIDE. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. UM, IF SOMEONE USED YOUR SERVICE AND WAS HEADED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, A A BUS STATION, CAN THEY PAY YOU WITH THEIR, UH, DART GO PASS, THAT WOULD, UM, BE SOMETHING WE WOULD NEED TO WORK THROUGH? I BELIEVE WE WOULD, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT USING RIDE CO'S APP HERE. UM, CIRCUIT IS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH WEST DALLAS, WE ARE INTEGRATED WITH WITH, UM, GO PASS. SO, UH, I, I CONFIDENTLY CAN SAY THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. YEAH, THEY BOTH HAVE EVEN THE CIRCUIT APP OR RIDE CO APP APP, A COMPLETE OPEN SET OF APIS. SO INTEGRATIONS ARE AVAILABLE ALREADY AVAILABLE THROUGH, UH, DRIVE CODE OR GUARD, I'M ASSUMING. YES. BUT, OKAY. AND THEN WHAT RIDER SAFETY TOOLS DO YOU GUYS HAVE? UM, DRIVER ID AND SOS BUTTON, UH, CAMERAS. DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THAT? WE, WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE, UM, YOU KNOW, DRIVER IDS. UM, SO WHEN YOU ARE PAIRED WITH THE DRIVER, YOU SEE WHO THEY ARE, YOU SEE THEIR PICTURE AND WHERE THEY ARE ON THEIR WAY TO YOU. UH, ALL OF OUR, OUR VEHICLES HAVE SAMSARA AI DASH CAMS THAT ARE, UH, IN VEHICLE AND IN EXTERIOR, UM, FACING. SO THEY'RE CATCHING ANYTHING FROM DISTRACTED DRIVING, [00:55:01] UM, YOU KNOW, USING YOUR, YOUR PHONE, UM, HARSH BRAKING, ET CETERA. SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE, WE INTEGRATE IN FOR, FOR SAFETY AND, YOU KNOW, EVERY DRIVER THROUGH SAMSARA IS GIVING A, A, UH, DRIVER SAFETY SCORE. SO WE'RE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, TRACKING THAT, AND OUR OPS TEAM IS LOOKING AT THAT, LOOKING AT THE EVENTS THAT ARE TRIGGERED. AND, UM, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PART OF THEIR TRAINING, YOU KNOW, ONGOING TRAINING. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS PEAK TIME AND HAVING THE CAPACITY TO GET PEOPLE AROUND. UM, WHETHER THAT'S RUSH HOUR, WHETHER THAT'S A WEATHER EVENT, OR, UM, MAYBE A SPECIAL EVENT THAT WE HAVE HERE. SO YOU MENTIONED PARTNERING WITH, UM, UBER, LYFT. SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IF, IF IT'S PEAK TIME, RIGHT? AND, AND OUR SIX VEHICLES ARE FULL AND YOU KICK RIDES OUT TO UBER'S, UBER'S PEAK TIME, ARE WE SUDDENLY PAYING PEAK TIME FOR UBER? OR IS OUR, WILL OUR CITIZENS BE PAYING UBER PEAK TIME? I, I, I, YOU KNOW, DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR UBER. I DON'T THINK THEY NECESSARILY ADJUST THEIR FARES FOR, YOU KNOW, A CITY PROGRAM VERSUS THE GENERAL PUBLIC. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CITY CAN ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT PORTION OF A FAIR DO YOU WANT TO COVER? DO YOU WANNA COVER THE, THE FULL FAIR? DO YOU WANT TO SAY, WE'LL COVER THE FIRST $5 $10 AND, AND THE PASSENGER HAS TO COVER THE REST? UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THE KEY IS, IS FLEXIBILITY. 'CAUSE IF YOU'RE, LOOK, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, AN EVENT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT WHERE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UNANTICIPATED, YOU KNOW, DEMAND. BUT IF IT'S ON AN ONGOING BASIS, THERE'S HIGH DEMAND AT CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. IF YOU'RE, IF THE COST OF A DEDICATED VEHICLE IS, YOU KNOW, 40, $50, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, AN UBER'S ONLY GOING TO COST, YOU KNOW, $12 FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, AS OVERFLOW, IT STILL MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE THAT FOR THAT ONE HOUR, THEN THE FIXED COST OF A VEHICLE FOR THE FULL MONTH. UM, SO THERE, THERE'S DIFFERENT SAFEGUARDS WE CAN PUT IN PLACE, AND I THINK THE KEY IS FLEXIBILITY FOR ALL THOSE SITUATIONS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, DAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS ON, OH, I GUESS IT'D BE SLIDE 61. LET ME VERIFY THAT. SLIDE 61. YOU HAVE PARTNERS LISTED, NATIONAL CUSTOMER TESTIMONIALS THAT ON THE PROPOSAL, NATIONAL CUSTOMER TESTIMONIALS. OKAY. IT WON'T BE ON HERE, BUT IT NO WORRIES. YOU, YOU HAVE DART ON HERE AS ONE OF THE TESTIMONIALS MM-HMM . WHERE SOMEONE THERE, THEIR ASSOCIATE VP OF SERVICE AND PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT IS QUOTED. HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? WAS THAT YEARS AGO? LAST MONTH? THE QUOTE ITSELF? THE QUOTE ITSELF? I'M NOT, I'M NOT, NO. I DON'T KNOW THE, THE TIMING ON THAT. OKAY. I, I WOULD WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN DART BECAME INVOLVED, UM, IN THE PROGRAM. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. LET ME MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. YOU HAD, UM, ON ONE OF YOUR PARTNERS, CBRE MM-HMM . UM, CAN YOU GIMME SOME EXAMPLES OF, IS THAT LOCAL? IS THAT NATIONAL OR SENSE OF A-C-B-R-E USING IT? YEAH, WE DON'T, SO THE CBRE IS NOT A PARTNER IN TEXAS. UM, BUT WE ALL, WE OPERATE A LOT WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR. FOR EXAMPLE, IRVINE COMPANY IN, UM, AND CALIFORNIA AS YOU KNOW, REALLY THE SAME TYPE OF SERVICE JUST ON, ON THE PRIVATE SIDE. UM, C BRES, YOU KNOW, FOR OFFICE BUILDINGS, UH, ET CETERA. UM, SO I KNOW WE'VE DONE A LOT WITH THEM IN, IN FLORIDA, AND, AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THE LOGO'S ON THERE. OKAY. THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD, UM, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TO RANDY'S POINT, THE PARKING AND, AND CHARGING STATIONS, UM, DURING THOSE PEAK PERIODS, LET'S JUST SAY IT'S KABOOM TOWN IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, SINCE THAT'S THE FIRST ONE THAT'S COMING UP FOR US. WOULD THERE BE A SURCHARGE TO THE REGULAR FAIR IF IT WAS AN EVENT? OR IS IT THE SAME FLAT RATE THAT WERE BEING QUOTED AS A TOWN ON UBER? YOU'RE SAYING AS AN, AS AN EXAMPLE? NO, IN TERMS OF CIRCUIT, UH, NO. WELL, IT, THE, IF WE'RE CHARGING A FAIR ON CIRCUIT, THAT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE TALK, YOU KNOW, IN AGREEMENT WITH, WITH THE TOWN ON. UM, AND THEN FROM THERE, IT'S, IT'S NOT SEARCH PRICING ON, YOU KNOW, THE TRIP, THE MICRO TRANSIT SERVICE, IT'S LIKELY GOING TO BE A FIXED COST. SO THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE ON ITS OWN. THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN SAYS, LET'S INCREASE THE, THE FARE DURING THIS TIME, OTHERWISE IT'S GOING TO TO REMAIN FIXED, YOU KNOW, AT ALL TIMES. OKAY. SO SAME THING WITH A, ON AN EIGHT TO FIVE SCHEDULE OF 8:00 AM IS THE BUSIEST TIME OF DAY OR 7:00 AM IT'S, THERE'S NO FAIR FLUCTUATION FROM 8:00 AM VERSUS 3:00 PM? CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THEN, UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOUR, YOUR CONTRACTORS, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE W2 EMPLOYEES. MM-HMM . IS THAT A, IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE 10 99 CONTRACTORS VERSUS THE W2 I, I, I, FOR MULTIPLE REASONS. I THINK THE, THE ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE THAT CONTRACTORS COULD BE CHEAPER, BUT, YOU KNOW, TO WHAT EXTENT IS IT, IS IT WORTH THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR US, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN W2, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES YOU GREATER CONTROL. YOU, YOU'RE, THERE'S [01:00:01] MORE BACKGROUND CHECKS. UM, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, TRAIN MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THEM, YOU KNOW, I WAS GONNA MENTION WITH THE, UM, THE HOTEL PIECE AND THE, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED BELLEVUE, UM, AND HOW WE WORK WITH THE TOURISM AUTHORITY, WE BRING THEM IN TO VISIT BELLEVUE, WHO GIVES THEM ADDITIONAL TRAINING ON BELLEVUE ITSELF. SO THEY'RE NOT JUST AMBASSADORS OF CIRCUIT, THEY'RE AMBASSADORS OF THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, AS WELL. SO WE'RE ABLE TO BRING THEM IN, UM, AND, AND PUT THEM THROUGH ADDITIONAL TRAINING AND ALSO CONTROL, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN SOMEONE WORKS FOR THEMSELVES, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT HELD AS ACCOUNTABLE TO SHOW UP OR TO BE IN UNIFORM. SO, UH, IT, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S THE CONTROL PIECE AND THE SAFETY PIECE ARE THE BIGGEST FACTORS FOR US. OKAY. SO KNOWING I PERSONALLY KNOW BELLEVUE AND KNOW THAT AREA QUALY, UM, SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THEM BEING AMBASSADORS, THAT WOULD BE THE HOTSPOTS TO GO VISIT FAMOUS RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WANT TO GO. WHERE'S A GOOD BREAKFAST JOINT? THEY WOULD BE THE REFERRAL OF THAT VERSUS YELP. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. THEY MAY HAVE USED YELP AS IT WOULD BE. YES. SO IS, IS THAT TOURISM BOARD PAYING AN ADDITIONAL FEE FOR THAT, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST A THAT'S JUST BUILT INTO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE EMPLOYEES OF, OF THE PROGRAM THAT, THAT THEY'RE OPERATING? THERE'S NO ALL LA CAR UPCHARGE ON THAT. NO. THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. LAST QUESTION FOR YOU. SO, YOU KNOW, I HAVE THE APP, OR I JUST, THE DOOR OPENS TO GET THE RIDE AND I SUDDENLY PULL THE ALLIGATOR ARMS. I DON'T HAVE MY MONEY WITH ME, OR I, I DON'T HAVE A WAY OF PAYING FOR THIS. HOW IS THAT HANDLED IN TERMS OF THAT INSTANCE OR THAT SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY GETS FORGETFUL OR DOES NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO PAY FOR THAT SERVICE AND EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE SITTING IN THE VEHICLE AT THAT EXACT MOMENT, WHAT HAPPENS? YEAH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK ANOTHER REASON WHY CASH COLLECTION ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE DO OFTEN, UH, BECAUSE WHEN YOU TAKE THAT OUTTA THE EQUATION, THE, THEIR CREDIT CARD, THEIR DEBIT CARD'S ALREADY LINKED. SO THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT GETS, YOU KNOW, UM, IF IT BALANCES, UH, IN A LATER TIME, THEN, THEN WE WORK THROUGH THAT, THAT MIGHT RESULT IN A STRIKE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, STRIKE ONE, UH, THREE STRIKES, YOU'RE OUT, YOU KNOW, WE IMPLEMENT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. HONESTLY, WE DON'T COLLECT CASH ENOUGH THAT I NECESSARILY HAVE A, A GOOD ANSWER FOR YOU ON THAT. I, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. BUT, UM, SO B WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET IS BASED ON A SHARED FARE, UH, MARLON AND I HOP IN THE CA HOP IN THE FAIR TOGETHER. I, I LOOK AS THOUGH I'M ABOUT TO PAY THIS, OR I PAID THE FIRST PORTION. HE NEEDS TO GO ANOTHER MILE FURTHER, BUT HE HAS NO MONEY. HOW ARE THOSE INSTANCES HANDLED, OR HAVE THOSE THINGS NOT BEEN HANDLED BY CIRCUIT? TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T KNOW. I, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T THINK OF A, OF A SCENARIO LIKE THAT. UH, AGAIN, YOU, IT'S NOT TOP OF MIND. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN HOURLY OR DAILY. NO. NO. OKAY. NO, I'VE BEEN WITH THE COMPANY SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS. I'VE, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT HAPPENING TO, YEAH. SO THE INSTANCE OF SOMEBODY POTENTIALLY BEING UN HOMED IS A TERM THAT I'VE HEARD IN, IN THIS TRANSPORTATION WORLD WE LIVE IN. SOMEBODY CANNOT BE UN HOMED AND GETTING YOUR PRODUCT AND RIDE IT TO A DESTINATION WITHOUT YOU KNOWING AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE THAT VEHICLE LEAVES. RIGHT? WELL, WE DO HAVE, IN A LOT OF OUR MARKETS, WHEN THERE IS NO FA WE CAN ACCEPT HAIL DRIVES AS WELL. SO IF, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE A, A SMARTPHONE, UM, BUT AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A TRUE DESTINATION, WE WANNA GET THEM THERE. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFERENT IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, WANT TO GO ON A JOY RIDE. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE CERTAINLY, IF WE'RE NOT COLLECTING A FAIR IN GENERAL AND, AND WE DECIDE AS A GROUP THAT WE ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT HAIL RIDES, UM, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN SEE US AND FLAG US DOWN AND WE'LL, WE'LL PULL OVER AND, AND PICK THEM UP AND ACCOMMODATE THEIR TRIP. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THOSE ANSWERS. YOU'RE WELCOME. MARLON, CAN I GO TO DARREN TO SEE? YES. NEVER GO YET. DARREN. UM, THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING TONIGHT, ERIC, DANIEL. SURE APPRECIATE THAT. UM, AND FOR BIDDING ON THIS. UM, SO TELL ME, UH, SO WEST DALLAS, UM, YOU OPERATE IN THE WEST DALLAS ALSO. IS THAT A, UH, WITH TOYOTA OR VIA DART WITH, UH, NO, THAT, SO TECHNICALLY THEY'RE BOTH PARTNERS IN IT. IT STARTED WITH, UM, TOYOTA MOBILITY FOUNDATION, UM, TO START. THEY BROUGHT CIRCUIT IN, UM, TO OPERATE IN WEST DALLAS. THEY NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A TRANSIT DESERT THERE. THEY, THEY WANTED TO PROVIDE THIS SERVICE TO HELP THE RESIDENTS MOVE TO THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DARK SERVICES THAT, THAT WERE MAYBE ALONG THE PERIMETER THERE. UM, AND THEN THEY, SO WE, WE PROPPED THAT UP. IT QUICKLY BECAME, YOU KNOW, TOP FIVE, UH, GO ZONES. UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE COMPARED IT, I GUESS AT THAT TIME TO GOLING ZONES TO WHERE DART, YOU KNOW, AGREED TO LOOK INTO IT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, APPROVE TO BE A, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE OVER THE CONTRACT AND PUT FUNDING IN, UH, ALONG WITH TOYOTA. OKAY. SO DO YOU, DOES THAT RUN ON THE GO PASS APP OR DOES THAT RUN ON A DIFFERENT APP? SO IT'S RUNS ON THE CIRCUIT APP TO REQUEST A RIDE, BUT IT, UH, IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WAYFINDING, YOU CAN SEE THAT AS AN OPTION ON THE GO GO PASS APP. SO IF YOU'RE PLANNING A TRIP TO SOMEWHERE IN WEST DALLAS, IT'S GOING TO SHOW YOU THE, AT, YOU KNOW, THE LAST PIECE OF YOUR TRIP GONNA BE ACCOMMODATED BY CIRCUIT. OKAY. UH, JUST KIND OF GOING ON THE FURTHER ON THE GO PASS, SO HOW WOULD YOU INTERFACE WITH SOMEBODY GOING TO A DIFFERENT DESTINATION BEYOND OUR BORDERS, UH, FROM THE RALLY POINT? WOULD IT INTERFACE WITH GO PASS TO, UH, MAKE IT SEAMLESS FOR THE RIDER [01:05:02] FROM IF THEY WERE ON, SAY, UH, ADDISON ON THE ADDISON HOPPER APP? YES, THEY LIKELY WOULD NOT. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SELECT A DESTINATION THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE THE TOWN LIMITS, UNLESS IT IS ONE OF THOSE RALLY POINTS THAT, THAT WE'VE ALREADY AGREED TO. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD SHOW YOU THE FULL TRIP PLANNING PROCESS BECAUSE OF THAT. UM, SO AGAIN, I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT, BUT, UM, PARATRANSIT, UM, LIKELY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE A LARGE, COVERING A LARGER AREA. SO INTEGRATION WITH DART, IN MY OPINION, IS VERY IMPORTANT, UM, TO MAKE IT MORE SEAMLESS FOR MM-HMM . THE RIDER, UH, SOMEBODY MENTIONED, UH, THE GO PASS IF YOU PAY WITH GO PASS COMING INTO ADDISON. UM, HOW DOES THAT WORK FOR WHEN YOU GET ON CIRCUIT IN, UH, WEST DALLAS? WELL, IN THE FUTURE, IN THIS, IN THIS MODEL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YEAH, YOU HAVE TO LIKELY DOWN, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE EITHER, UH, YOU WOULD CALL THE PHONE NUMBER OR HAVE THE AS AND HOPPER APP ONCE YOU ARE MAKING THAT TRANSFER. BUT THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE'RE UP AND RUNNING, WE, WE START THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OTHER TECHNOLOGIES TO WORK THROUGH THOSE INTEGRATIONS TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. UH, BUT DAY ONE, I CAN'T SAY THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, TO OFFER THAT. OKAY. SO, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, YEAH, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY, SORRY, GO. THE REASON WHY WE CHOSE RIDE CO IS THE FRONT, RIGHT. YOU'LL HAVE TO GO TO THE MIC FOR THAT. THANK YOU. THE REASON WHY WE CHOSE RIDE CO AS THE FRONT END SOFTWARE AS OPPOSED TO JUST OUR SOLUTION, IS BECAUSE IT DOES ALLOW YOU TO HAVE MULTIMODAL, MEANING YOU CAN'T INTEGRATE WITH OTHER TECHNOLOGIES. AND IF YOU, UM, MAKE IT SO THAT YOU SET AN ADDRESS OUTSIDE OF OUR ROUTE, WE COULD SHOW YOU, OKAY, WE'LL TAKE YOU TO THIS SPOT, BUT AFTER THAT, YOU'VE GOTTA CATCH THE 1 0 7 FIXED ROUTE BUS TO GET TO YOUR NEXT DESTINATION. THAT IS A FEATURE OF THE RIDE CO SOFTWARE. IT'S NOT IN THE NATIVE CIRCUIT SOFTWARE, WHICH IS WHY WE SELECTED THEM. ASCO WOULD BE THE APP THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING FOR ADDISON TO USE? EXACTLY. OKAY. YEAH, WHATEVER WE BRAND IT. MM-HMM. EXACTLY. YEAH. IT'S A, IT'S A WHITE LABEL, SO WE CAN BRAND IT THE ADDISON HOPPER OR WHATEVER WE'D LIKE, BUT IT'S THE RIDE CO TECH THAT WE'RE LEVERAGING FOR, UH, THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THIS SOLUTION. UM, HOW MANY VEHICLES DO YOU ALREADY OPERATE IN THE DFW AREA? UH, SO IN DFW CIRCUIT, WE WOULD HAVE THE SIX THAT ARE IN WEST DALLAS. UH, AND THEN ZTRIP, I CAN'T PUT A NUMBER ON, BUT, UM, MANY, MANY MORE THAN THAT. THEY HAVE A DEPOT IN THE AREA AS WELL. OKAY. SO ON THE PROPOSAL, I, I DIDN'T, UH, CATCH THAT. IS IT SHARED OR IS IT SINGLE RIDER ON THE PROPOSAL? UH, WE, WE COULD PULL, PULL TRIPS, YOU KNOW, IF WE ASSUME THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT THE OVERALL RIDERSHIP PROJECTIONS, ASSUME 20, 30% OF THOSE WOULD BE POOLED. UM, THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S, HOW THAT HAPPENS IS, IS TBD, BUT WE ARE ABLE TO POOL TRIPS WHEN IT, WHEN IT MAKES SENSE TO DO SO. AND THAT IS AN ASSUMPTION, YOU KNOW, GOING IN. OKAY. SO ON THE PARATRANSIT, IF WE HAVE THE TWO PARATRANSIT VEHICLES, CAN IT BE DESIGNED TO WHERE IT OVERFLOWS TO THE REST OF THE FLEET THAT WE HAVE FOR EDISON? OR IS IT GONNA BE PARATRANSIT IS ALWAYS SEPARATE FROM THE REST OF THE CIRCUIT VEHICLES? IT WOULD LIKELY BE SEPARATE BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT ELIGIBILITY. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY TAGGED DIFFERENTLY. WE CAN OPERATE A WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE MICRO TRANSIT VEHICLE OR VEHICLES IN THE SERVICE AREA, UM, THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE USED BY NON-AIR TRANSIT RIDERS, UM, TO ACCOMMODATE THAT IF WE NEEDED TO. UM, BUT, OR, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULD LOOK AT A KIND OF CO-MINGLING. I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A LARGE AREA SERVICING, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE 13 DART CITIES, BUT THE, THE FLEET SIZE FOR THE PAIR OF TRANSIT THAT WE CAME UP WITH WAS BASED ON, YOU KNOW, AN ESTIMATE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S TALKED ABOUT, I THINK 1600, YOU KNOW, TRIPS ON A YEAR. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT THOSE TWO VEHICLES ACROSS THE 13 DARK CITIES CAN HANDLE THE FOUR TO, YOU KNOW, SIX DAILY TRIPS. BUT IF WE START, YOU KNOW, OPENING IT UP FOR, FOR MORE, UM, WE MIGHT THEN, YOU KNOW, BE IN THE, IN THE, UM, SITUATION, WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR MORE PARA TRANSIT VEHICLES, WHICH WE WOULDN'T WANNA DO. YOU KNOW, IF ANYTHING, IF WE SEE THAT THERE'S A LARGE CONCENTRATION OF IN TOWN, YOU KNOW, TRIPS, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT ADDING, YOU KNOW, TO THE TRAN FLEET. SO, UM, IN THE PROPOSAL, IS THERE A MAXIMUM USAGE OR DUTY CYCLE? UH, LIKE YOU, YOU'VE GOT IT FROM FIVE TO 12, I THINK IS WHAT THE, THE TIMEFRAME IS. AND IF THOSE, UM, CARS ARE USED MORE THAN SOME PERCENTAGE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE MODEL THAT WE'RE BASED ON? DO WE GO OVER, DO WE HAVE AN OVERAGE TO TOO MANY RIDES? A HUNDRED PERCENT USAGE? SO WE DO HAVE, ON THE, THE SOFTWARE PIECE, WE ASSUMED SOMETHING IN A SEVEN SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS TRIPS, UH, 7,000 TRIPS A MONTH. UM, THERE WOULD BE KIND OF AN OVERAGE IF WE WENT OVER, AND I DON'T KNOW THE, THE COST OF THAT, UH, ON TOP OF MY HEAD. I THINK IT WAS IN THE, IN THE [01:10:01] PROPOSAL THERE. BUT, UH, ON THE FLEET ITSELF, NO, THE, THE, THE FLEET IS DEDICATED TO ADDISON, THE, YOU KNOW, ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE CONTRACT. SO, UM, THEY'RE OPERATING AT 5:00 AM TO TO 12, YOU KNOW, AM NO MATTER WHAT. OKAY. JUST TO KIND OF MOVE ALONG, IT'S MY LAST QUESTION. UM, SO YOU TALKED ABOUT HAILING, LIKE HAILING A TAXI, HAILING A, A, A RIDE. UM, HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. IT'S A GOOD IDEA IF WE CAN DECIDE AS A COUNCIL, IF THAT'S A FEATURE WE WANT. UM, DO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OPTIONS TO STEP INSIDE THE VEHICLE AND PAY IN GENERAL? THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S TAP CARD INTEGRATIONS, ET CETERA, CARD IN EVERY VEHICLE. SO YOU CAN TAP YOUR CREDIT CARD, YOU CAN TAP WHATEVER PAY CARD. YEAH, WE DID. I WILL SAY WE DID NOT ACCOUNT FOR THAT. WE, WE CERTAINLY CAN. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE KIND OF KNOW WHO THE TAP CARDS, YOU KNOW, IS BEING RUN THROUGH, ET CETERA, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT DOES ADD ADDITIONAL COSTS. SO WE DIDN'T WANNA ACCOUNT FOR THAT IF IT WASN'T NEEDED. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY ACCOUNT FOR THAT IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO DO. OKAY. THANKS. MM-HMM . CAN I GO TO HOWARD NOW? YEAH. BEFORE WE DO REPEATS, I'LL BE QUICK. UM, WE'RE HAVING AN ELECTION IT LOOKS LIKE ON MAY THE SECOND IF WE ELECT TO LEAVE DART. ARE YOU READY TO BE IN PLACE ON MAY 3RD? ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL, ON PARATRANSIT WILL BE IN PLACE BEFORE THEN, CERTAINLY. AND MICRO TRANSIT, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING IT IN ADVANCE, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE A GAP. YES. UM, CURRENTLY, IF DART TAKES OUT DEBT, THIS, THE 13 CITIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT FROM A FINANCING STANDPOINT. IS THERE ANY WAY YOU'RE GONNA PLACE DEBT ON OUR TOWN? NO. IT WOULD NOT BE PLACING DEBT ON DEBT ON, ON ADDISON. IS THAT CORRECT? NO. OKAY. I THOUGHT NOT. AND THE LAST THING IS, IF WE DON'T LIKE THIS MARRIAGE AND WANT TO GET DIVORCED, CAN WE JUST QUIT? OR DO WE HAVE TO WAIT SIX YEARS? NO, YOU CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT SIX YEARS. AI LEAVE THAT TO THE, TO THE LAWYERS. BUT I KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'VE LOOKED AT CONTRACTS, THERE'S FOUR CALLS WITHOUT, CAUSE, YOU KNOW, CANCELLATION TERMS, ET CETERA. SO WE HAVE AN EXIT TIME AND WE CAN GET OUT AND WE DON'T OWE ANYTHING AND WE CAN, I GUESS IT'S GOOD, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT FULLY AWARE 'CAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, IT HASN'T HAD TO HAPPEN TO US. BUT, UM, YEAH, I, I'LL LEAVE THAT TO LARGE. THANK YOU. THAT WAS IT. OKAY. AND, AND WE NEED TO START WRAPPING THIS UP HERE PRETTY SOON 'CAUSE WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION WE'RE RUNNING. I GET IT. I GET IT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TOO. UM, THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, SO DANIEL, I JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP WITH SOMETHING YOU SAID EARLIER TO DAN WHO SETS THE, THE RATE, THE, THE RIDERSHIP RATE FOR MICRO TRANSIT OR ALL OF IT AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE TOWN. GOT IT. AND SO, AND, AND WE RETAINED THE RIDERSHIP REVENUE, CORRECT? CORRECT. CORRECT. OKAY, GREAT. AND SO THE VEHICLES, YOU OWN THE VEHICLES YEP. AND YOU MAINTAINED THE VEHICLES MM-HMM . AND AS FAR AS THE VE VEHICLE LOCATION AND CHARGING STATIONS, WHO, WHO OWNS THAT? WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION IF THE TOWN SAID, HEY, WE HAVE THESE SPOTS AT, YOU KNOW, TOWN HALL OR HERE OR THERE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU COULD PROVIDE THAT TO US. WE WOULD SHOW YOU WHAT, YOU KNOW, THAT DISCOUNT WE LOOK LIKE ON OUR PRICING THAT WE GAVE YOU TO THIS POINT. IF YOU SAID WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, WE GO OUT AND FIND THAT ON OUR OWN WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR, YOU KNOW, WITH HOTELS, WITH WHOEVER IT MIGHT BE, UH, THAT WE WOULD PARTNER WITH TO, YOU KNOW, UM, SOLIDIFY THE, THE STORAGE AND THE CHARGING OF THE VEHICLES. OKAY. AND SO, AND IN, IN THIS AREA, THIS LOCAL AREA, IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, DART THE WEST DALLAS CIRCUIT PRODUCT IS THE ONLY OTHER CUSTOMER YOU HAVE IN THIS AREA? CORRECT. OKAY. AND, AND SO WHERE DO THEY KEEP THEIR VEHICLES? WHO OWNS THOSE VEHICLES AND WHERE, WHERE THEY CA I DON'T NEED THE EXACT LOCATION. YEAH, YEAH. NO, EVERY PROGRAM FOR CIRCUIT'S THE SAME. WE CIRCUIT, YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDE EVERYTHING AS A TURNKEY SERVICE. SO WE TAKE EVERYTHING OFF YOUR PLATE. WE'RE BILLING YOU BASED ON THE AGREED UPON OPERATING, YOU KNOW, SCHEDULE. UH, BUT WE OWN THE VEHICLES IN ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS. SO WEST DALLAS, WE OWN THE VEHICLES, WE LEASE THE SPACE, UM, WITHIN THE SERVICE AREA THERE, WE HAVE THE CHARGING SET UP, YOU KNOW, DRIVERS STARTING END THEIR DAY AT THAT LOCATION. OKAY. AND THAT SEGUES EXACTLY TO MY LAST QUESTION IS HOW MANY DRIVERS DO YOU HAVE, UH, AT PRESENT IN THIS AREA? AND WE HAVE ABOUT, I WANNA SAY 10 TO 12, UM, FOR THE WEST DALLAS SERVICE. UH, AND THEN OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR PARTNERS AT ZTRIP HAVE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW, THEY, THEY WORK, YOU KNOW, THEY OPERATE, UH, WITH TRANSDEV FOR THE, UM, THE DART SERVICE. SO THEY HAVE A LARGE POOL OF DRIVERS, UM, TO PULL FROM AS WELL. AND THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE NOT JUST WITH PARATRANSIT, WITH MICRO TRANSIT AS WELL, BUT WE BE ABLE TO USE THEM FOR OVERFLOW. OKAY. SO WE COULD USE THOSE, THOSE DRIVERS ALSO. YEAH. AND THOSE ARE, UM, ZTRIP IN, IN THIS AREA? MM-HMM . YEAH, ZTRIP, THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR HEADQUARTERS ARE, ARE HERE IN DALLAS, BUT THEY OPERATE ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS WELL. AND YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY OPERATE, UM, FOR THE VIA SAN ANTONIO, UM, LIKE I MENTIONED FOR DARK, LOCATED ON THEIR DRIVERS. RIGHT. LOCALLY. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELCOME. I PROMISE I'LL BE FASTED. THANK YOU. RANDY. I'LL BE, I'LL BE BRIEF. THANK YOU. I'LL ASK YOU IF WE COULD, UM, ON EMPLOYEES, YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT YOUR TRAINING OF YOUR EMPLOYEES, [01:15:01] AND I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE W2 EMPLOYEES. ALL THE RIDE SHARE COMPANIES I'VE EVER BEEN WITH, I ASSUMED AND THOUGHT THEY WERE 10 99 MM-HMM . SINCE THEY'RE W2 EMPLOYEES, UH, WHAT IS YOUR EMPLOYEE RETENTION AND YOUR RECRUITING LOOK LIKE? DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES IN RECRUITING DRIVERS OR RE RETAINING DRIVERS? WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR RETENTION? UH, OUR RETENTION RATE IS, I WANNA SAY IN THE, YOU KNOW, 90, LOW, 90% RANGE. I, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE QUOTED IN, IN THE PROPOSAL AVERAGE TERM WITH US IS A YEAR AND A HALF, ALMOST TWO YEARS WITH OUR DRIVERS. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, DRIVERS BE HIRED AS A DRIVER AND NOW THEY'RE MANAGING, YOU KNOW, A REGION. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OF GROWTH THERE. UM, AND SORRY, WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WAS THE SECOND PART? UH, UH, RECRUITING. RECRUITING. YEAH. UM, YOU KNOW, WE USE, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE AVENUES OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, UM, JOB BOARDS, ET CETERA, UM, YOU KNOW, LOCAL SCHOOLS. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, WE, WE, WHEN WE LAUNCH A SERVICE, WE GET A LOT OF INTEREST FROM THE UBER DRIVERS OF THE WORLD WHO DON'T WANNA USE THEIR OWN CAR ANYMORE AND WANT THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MORE STEADY, YOU KNOW, INCOME. UM, A LOT FROM THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY. AND THAT ALLOWS US TO, YOU KNOW, TRAIN THESE DRIVERS ON BEING AMBASSADORS OF THE AREA, SELLING THE AREA. SO, UM, RECRUITING TYPICALLY IS, IS NOT AN ISSUE FOR US. OFTENTIMES WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING INBOUND REQUESTS TO OUR WEBSITE. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA LAUNCH IN ADDISON? YOU KNOW, WE WANNA DRIVE HERE, YOU KNOW, WE, OR YOU KNOW, VICE VERSA. WE LOOK TOO FAR FROM THIS HOUSE. SO YOU PAY A, A GOOD LIVING WAGE. YOUR, YOUR PEOPLE CAN MAKE A GOOD LIVING, UH, BENEFITS. ABSOLUTELY. YEP. DENTAL, THE FULL ARRAY OF BENEFITS SO THAT THERE IS A BENEFIT TO BEING A W2 EMPLOYEE. CORRECT. AND YOU'RE RATHER THAN USING YOUR OWN. RIGHT. AND THAT, AND THAT'S BACK TO MY POINT OF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY SOMETIMES YES, 10 99 COULD BE CHEAPER. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S THESE BENEFITS OF W2 AND THAT COMES WITH A COST. OKAY. AND YOU MENTIONED FAIR FREE MM-HMM . DO YOU HAVE ANY CITIES THAT ARE FAIR FREE? HONESTLY, I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY OF OUR, OF OUR 50 PLUS, YOU KNOW, SERVICES ARE, ARE LIKELY FAIR FREE. OKAY. WE HAVE, WE'VE IMP OUR COMPANY USED TO BE CALLED A FREE RIDE. THIS WAS UNTIL ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO. IT WASN'T THE REASON FOR THE REBRAND. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, GHOSTS, YOU KNOW, WE OF COURSE WEREN'T CHARGING FAIR WHEN WE WERE CALLED A FREE RIDE. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST AS MUCH AS CHARGING A FAIR YES. DOES HELP WITH COST SAVINGS. IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, DEMAND CONTROL, YOU KNOW, MAJORITY YOU, ALL OUR PROGRAMS, GETTING PEOPLE TO USE A SERVICE IS NOT A CHALLENGE. TYPICALLY FROM DAY ONE, WE CAN HAVE PENT UP DEMAND. RIGHT. BUT ASSIGNING A SMALL VALUE TO SOMEONE'S TRIP AT LEAST HELPS YOU TO CONTROL IT. THEY'RE NOT GONNA, SOMEONE'S NOT GONNA REQUEST A RIDE TO, YOU KNOW, A 7 11, 3 BLOCKS AWAY WHEN THERE'S ONE CLOSER BECAUSE THEY LIKE THAT ONE MORE, OR THEY'RE NOT GOING TO NOT CANCEL A TRIP WHEN THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T NEED IT ANYMORE. AS LONG AS THEY KNOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, GONNA LOSE A DOLLAR OR $2. OKAY. WELL THAT, THAT, THAT INTERESTS ME THEN. UH, I THOUGHT WHEN READING THE, IN READING THE PRESENTATION, IF WE CHARGED THE FAIR, THE, THE TOWN RETAINED THE FAIR, BUT I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY WHILE AGO THAT YOUR COMPANY RETAINS THE FAIR. NO, WE WOULD NOT. IT WOULD. DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT? YES. OKAY. I APOLOGIZE THEN. I, I, I, I JUST MISSED IT WOULD BE APPLIED AS A CREDIT TO THE INVOICE THAT WE WOULD BE SENDING YOU FOR THAT MONTH, ESSENTIALLY. GOTCHA, GOTCHA. AND LAST QUESTION, I PROMISE. UH, FAIR PER PERSON, YOU KNOW, I, I CALL AN UBER, THERE'S THREE OF US THAT NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE. ONE GUY GETS CHARGED, THREE PEOPLE IN THIS, THEY'RE ALL GONNA GET CHARGED THE FAIR INDIVIDUALLY, I'M ASSUMING. CORRECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APOLOGIZE. I RAN A LITTLE. NO WORRIES. RANDY. UH, I'VE JUST GOT A FEW QUESTIONS, UH, BEFORE WE WRAP THIS UP. UH, REALLY MINOR AROUND, UH, THE RIDER EXPERIENCE MM-HMM . UM, SO I WANNA GO BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER. SO THIS IS ADDISON ONLY TRANSPORTATION? YES. CORRECT. I, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING HOW SOMEBODY, IF SOMEBODY'S GO, WHICH, WHICH MOST OF THE RIDERS, THEY COME IN FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEN THEY GO TO SOMEWHERE ELSE. MM-HMM . I'M JUST HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING HOW THEY MAKE THAT CONNECTION TO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE CALLING IT AT A RALLY POINT, BECAUSE THERE'S NO RALLY, IT'S JUST A BUS STOP. HOW DO THEY, BECAUSE, 'CAUSE DART 'CAUSE DART'S NOT GONNA COME AND PICK 'EM UP AT, AT A BUS STOP IN ADDISON, AND YOU CAN'T TAKE 'EM TO A BUS STOP OUTSIDE OF ADDISON. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT CONNECTION IS MADE. SO WE COULD, I, THE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE RALLY POINTS AND, AND THE RALLY POINTS SHOWN HERE, WERE PULLED FROM THE WORKING SESSION. SO, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY COULD ALWAYS BE ADJUSTED, BUT THE IDEA IS THEY'RE OUTSIDE TOWN LIMITS. SO THEY WOULD BE SOMEWHERE WHERE DART IS STILL SERVICING SHOULD YOU ELECT TO LEAVE DART. UM, SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE CONNECTION FROM YOUR STARTING POINT WITHIN THE TOWN TO A RALLY POINT THAT STILL HAS DART SERVICE. OKAY. SO THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TIMING OF IT THEN. SO IF YOU'RE, SOMEBODY MIGHT WAIT FOR ONE OF YOUR VEHICLES 20 TO 30 MINUTES POSSIBLY, RIGHT? I MEAN HOPEFULLY NOT, HOPEFULLY WE'VE RIGHT THROUGH RIGHT SIDES OF SERVICE AND WE HAVE THE DIFFERENT BACKSTOPS IN PLACE THAT WE'RE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, 10 TO 15 MINUTE IN ANTICIPATED WAIT TIME, SO IT'S 15 MINUTES. BUT I THINK YOU EVEN MENTIONED EARLIER IT COULD BE 20 TO 30 MINUTES. I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT I, I COULD HAVE MISHEARD 15 MINUTES. AND SO [01:20:01] THEY WAIT, THEY DON'T, IF THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE TIMING OF IT WHEN THAT RALLY POINT BUS IS GOING TO TAKE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE OR THE TRAIN OR WHATEVER, HOW DO, HOW DO THEY, IF THEY DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA BE HERE IN FIVE MINUTES OR 15 OR 30 MINUTES AND THEN THEY'RE TRYING TO TIME IT WITH THE DEPARTURE FROM THE OTHER ONE. IT SEEMS LIKE BEFORE THEY GET A MILE AWAY FROM THEIR LOCATION IN ADDISON, THEY COULD BE AN HOUR INTO THE TRIP ALREADY. SO, I MEAN, A LOT OF THAT IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE ALGORITHMS COME INTO PLACE TO, TO ROUTE EFFICIENTLY. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TECHNOLOGY, WE HAVE TIME SNAPPING. SO IF YOU ARE BIG GETTING PICKED UP FROM YOUR HOUSE WITHIN ADDISON, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ON THE TRAIN OR THE BUS, YOU KNOW, AT A RALLY POINT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TELLING THE APP THAT YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, TAKING THIS TRAINER, THIS BUS, IT'S GOING TO, IT'S GOING TO LOOK AT THE DART SCHEDULE. IT'S GOING TO TELL YOU YOU NEED TO BE PICKED UP BY THIS TIME TO GET THERE IN TIME FOR THIS TRIP. SO THEN THE ROUTING ON THE BACKEND IS GOING TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT. AND IN THE ITINERARY ON THE BACKEND, IT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ASSIGN YOUR TRIP SOMEWHERE TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE PICKED UP ON TIME. BUT DURING THOSE PEAK PERIODS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN THE BEGINNING WHERE THAT IS AN UNKNOWN, UM, THAT'S WHY WE DO OFFER, YOU KNOW, DO WE MAYBE LOOK AT AN UBER OVERFLOW? AND AGAIN, TOTALLY OPTIONAL, IT'S NOT ACCOUNTED FOR RIGHT NOW, BUT IN THE BEGINNING. SO WE KNOW WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ACCOMMODATE THIS WITHOUT THE NEED FOR IT. IT SOUNDS EXTREMELY COMPLICATED TO ME 'CAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S ALREADY NOT THE EASIEST PEOPLE FOR THING FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO DO DART MM-HMM . TO DO DART AND COMBINED WITH THIS SOUNDS JUST MULTIPLES TIMES MORE COMPLICATED. YEAH, I WILL WRITER I WILL SAY TOO, IT IT, IT DOES. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THE NICE THING IS A LOT OF THAT IS DONE BEHIND THE SCENES THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TECHNOLOGY IS DOING THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING. IT'S JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, VERBALIZING THAT OF, OF HOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT GOES INTO DOING THAT. IT'S LIKE MAGIC OR SOMETHING , UM, THE, UM, PARATRANSIT. SO YOU HAVE TWO PARATRANSIT, ONE AMBULATORY AND ONE WHEELCHAIR ACCESS MM-HMM . AND AGAIN, YOU'RE SERVING ALL 13 CITIES WITH THOSE TWO VEHICLES. YEAH. SO A PERSON WHO GETS ON A PARA THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESS IN ADDISON TO BE DROPPED OFF IN ETTE, IT'S 30 TO 40 MINUTES ONE WAY MM-HMM . SO ROUND TRIP HOUR TO AN HOUR AND A HALF, FIVE MINUTES AFTER THEY GET IN THE VEHICLE, SOMEBODY ELSE CALLS, THEY NEED THE WHEELCHAIR ACCESS. WHAT HAPPENS THEN? IT, IT'S A LONGER WAIT TIME FOR NOW. AND I THINK THAT'S THE DOWNFALL OF, OF THE UNKNOWN. YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING, CAN WE GET OUR RIDERSHIP INFORMATION? WE KNOW TRENDS, BUT WITHOUT THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE COVERAGE BASED ON A GENERAL NUMBER THAT WE SAW IN THE, IN THE, THE RP OF, YOU KNOW, ASSUME 1600, UH, ON THE YEAR. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THAT COULD CHANGE, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET THE DATA AHEAD OF TIME, GREAT. WE, WE, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT CHANGE AND MAYBE BOTH VEHICLES ARE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE OR MAYBE WE WANNA SAY THAT FROM THE START. IT'S LET'S JUST MAKE THEM BOTH WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE TO, TO PREVENT THAT, UM, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, CHANGE NOW. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS. I JUST HAVE ONE MORE CLARIFYING QUESTION. KIND OF WHAT YOU, SO IF A RIDER, WE, WE GO WITH THE SYSTEM WITH THE CIRCUIT AND A RIDER WANTS TO GO TO GARLAND WAY OUTSIDE OF ADDISON, UH, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO THE RIDER? WHAT'S THEIR, WHAT'S THEIR PROCESS? THEY'RE LIKELY USING THE ADDISON HOPPER TO GET TO ONE OF THE RALLY POINTS. SO ARE THEY GONNA USE RIDE CO MM-HMM . GRANTED, WHATEVER. YEP. AND THEY'RE GONNA SAY, I WANNA GO TO GARLAND OVER THERE. WHAT DOES IT TELL 'EM TO DO? IT'S SHOWING THEM TO, TO GET PICKED UP WHERE THEY ARE ON THE ADDISON HOPPER APP, GET TO WHATEVER RALLY POINT THAT IS THEN GOING TO PROVIDE THAT CONNECTION FOR THEM TO GET TO GARLAND AND THE APP'S, FIGURING THAT OUT FOR 'EM. YES. IT'S PUTTING ALL THE TIMING TOGETHER. YEAH. WHERE THEY CAN CATCH IT. THE BUS AT THE RALLY POINT. CORRECT. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN. YEAH. IN MY, IN MY CONCERN WITH THAT, DARREN, IS THAT THE, THE APP COULD SAY, YEAH, THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE DRIVER'S GONNA BE GET THERE AT THE TIME THAT, TO MAKE ALL THAT HAPPEN. I UNDERSTAND EXECUTION CAN BE CHALLENGING. THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AND IF YOU'VE USED GO PASS, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PIECES TOGETHER THAT THAT DARK DOES WITH GO PASS THE BUS ARE GPS THEY'RE LOCATED SO THEY KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT RY CO'S WATCHING ALL THAT ALSO FOR BUS DELAYS AND THOSE THINGS. YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, RY CO'S THEY'RE, THEY'RE USED BY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, THE VERY TOP TRANS AGENCIES THAT HAVE FIXED DROUGHT AND BUS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN ALL THOSE PLACES THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING JUST THAT. IT'S JUST MAYBE A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, TWO SEPARATE SERVICES. BUT IT, YOU KNOW, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, IT'S, IT'S DOING THE SAME THING OF LOOKING AT ALL OTHER TRANSIT OPTIONS. I JUST WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION HERE ON CAMERA. RIGHT ON THE RECORD. SO WHAT THE ANSWER IS SO THAT, UM, IT'S NOT DIFFERENT IN THE FUTURE. YEAH, EXACTLY. CHRIS, CAN CAN YOU GUYS WRAP UP? WE GOT A HERE I HAVE A COMMENT LIKE TO WHAT YOU'RE, TO YOUR POINT, THANK YOU. IS [01:25:01] ALL OF THIS JUST SOUNDS EXTREMELY CUMBERSOME, RIGHT? WE'RE ASKING SOMEONE TO, UM, GET FROM, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER THEIR STARTING POINT IS TO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND WAIT. UM, AND NOT TO MENTION, YOU KNOW, IT MAY OR MAY NOT LINK UP WITH THE DART SCHEDULE AND WHATEVER THEY'RE TRYING TO GET TO. AND THEN ALSO THERE'S A, NOW THERE'S A SECOND FARE AS WELL. THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING TOO, IF THEY PAY IT TWICE. SO YEAH, I DON'T LIKE WHAT I'M HEARING RIGHT NOW. DAN, SOMETHING QUICKLY PLEASE. YEAH, QUICKLY. SO BACK TO WHAT YOU'RE USING WITH TOYOTA RIGHT NOW, WHERE THE, WHERE THE CONNECTION IS NOT DART, IT IS CIRCUIT OBVIOUSLY. ARE THERE EXAMPLES THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY CONFIRM THAT SOMEONE FROM TOYOTA IS USING THE DART PRODUCT AND YOU'RE GETTING TO A RALLY POINT TO PICK UP THEIR DART PRODUCT. IS THAT CORRECT? SO SOMEONE FROM, SO TOYOTA IS A, IS A PARTNER, THE SERVICE, BUT ANYONE IN IN WEST DALLAS YEAH. IS USING, YOU KNOW, FROM, WE'LL TAKE IT, YOU KNOW, BACKWARDS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING PICKED UP FROM THEIR HOME IN WEST DALLAS TO GO TO A, A DART STATION TO THEN TAKE IT TO WORK, YOU KNOW, IN, IN DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING. SO POTENTIALLY THAT'S ALREADY CURRENTLY HAPPENING. CORRECT. SOMEBODY LIVES IN GARLAND THAT WORKS AT TOYOTA IS OBVIOUSLY GETTING TO AND FROM WORK VIS-A-VIS DART AND CIRCUIT. CORRECT. THANK YOU. YES. OKAY. JUST A QUICK COMMENT. I, THIS DOESN'T SOUND ANY DIFFERENT TO ME THAN SOMEONE THAT'S TAKING THE BUS TO THE ADDISON TRANSIT STATION AND HAVING TO HIT A CONNECTION SOMEWHERE ELSE. PEOPLE ON DART HAVE TO MAKE CONNECTIONS ALL THE TIME AND WAIT ON BUSES. SO I'M SURE YOU'RE NOT HEARING ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVEN'T HEARD BEFORE. AND I THINK THAT'S THE 21ST CENTURY TO MAKE THIS LESS COMPLICATED. I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I MEAN, IT'S A LARGER SYSTEM, IT'S ON A SET SCHEDULE. UM, THIS IS NOT AS EFFICIENT AS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. FURTHER. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS. APPRECIATE ASHLEY, WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE? YEAH. ALRIGHT, DO YOU WANNA INTRODUCE THEM? SURE. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED? OKAY, SO OUR NEXT ONE IS VIA AND FIVE MINUTES. DO YOU HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE? ARE WE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE FIVE. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA TAKE A QUICK BREAK. FIVE MINUTE BREAK. Y'ALL COME BACK AT, UH, 6 41. MM-HMM . THEY GOT A HEAD START. OKAY. IT IS 6 42 AND WE'LL RECONVENE THE, UH, COUNCIL INTO OUR WORK SESSION TO, UH, FINISH OUR WORK SESSION ITEM. AND THIS, UH, WE WILL GO PAST 7:00 PM FOR, UH, WITH OUR WORK SESSION AND THEN WE'LL, UH, DO A REGULAR MEETING ONCE WE, UH, ONCE WE CONCLUDE HERE AND ITEMS, UH, SIX B AND SIX C THAT ARE ON THE WORK SESSION, WE WILL MOVE THOSE AND DO THOSE AT THE END OF THE, UH, AFTER THE REGULAR MEETING. ALRIGHT, WITH THAT WE WILL CONTINUE, ASHLEY. OKAY. THE QUICKER TURN THERE. GREAT. UH, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, FIRST OF ALL, ON BEHALF OF YA, WE WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, PRESENT OUR PROPOSAL FOR THE CITY. UH, WE KNOW YOU ALL ARE AT A VERY, UM, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT INFLECTION POINT AND IN TERMS OF MOBILITY HERE IN ADDISON, UH, WE THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT MAY CHANGE IN THE FUTURE AND WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THAT PROCESS. AND, UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY HERE. UM, JUST TO QUICKLY INTRODUCE OURSELVES AS WE, UH, WE'RE ALL GONNA BE SPEAKING HERE A LITTLE BIT DURING THIS PRESENTATION. UH, MY NAME IS SARS KASET. I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR PARTNERSHIPS HERE AT VS. I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF OVERSEEING ALL OF OUR PARTNERS ACROSS THE CENTRAL US. I SPENT A LOT OF MY TIME HERE IN TEXAS AS WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A MOMENT. BUT JUST AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TIME. I'LL PASS OVER TO THOMAS. THANKS SARRIS. UM, ECHOING HIS COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO FIRST START OFF BY THANKING ALL OF YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND PRESENT. UM, FOR BRIEF CONTEXT, MY NAME'S THOMAS DURNER. I LEAD OUR PARTNERSHIPS HERE IN TEXAS DIRECTLY. SO I GREW UP HERE. I'M BASED IN TEXAS. I SPEND REALISTICALLY THE VAST MAJORITY OF EVERY SINGLE DAY SPEAKING WITH MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE STATE. THIS IS MY CORE FOCUS, UM, SO VERY EXCITED TO BE EXPLORING THIS NEXT STAGE IN YOUR TRANSIT JOURNEY WITH YOU. HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS AARON GIBO. I'M OUR DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR ALL OF OUR TEXAS OPERATIONS HERE AT VIA, AND I LIVE ABOUT 15 MINUTES AWAY FROM HERE. SO, UH, REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE, UH, IN, IN MY HOME AREA AS WELL. GREAT. UM, I'M JUST GONNA TAKE A QUICK MOMENT TO INTRODUCE, UH, VIA AS A COMPANY, AND I'M GONNA PASS IT OVER TO THOMAS TO TALK, UH, MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT OUR PROPOSAL ITSELF, UM, VIA, WE'RE A GLOBAL NATIONAL, UH, LEADING PROVIDER OF PUBLIC MOBILITY SOLUTIONS AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE THESE 750 PARTNERS, BUT I DON'T FLASH THIS NUMBER UP JUST TO SAY GREAT. WE HAVE A LOT OF PARTNERS ACROSS THE WORLD. I THINK THE REASON THAT WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IS THAT WE HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL UNDERSTANDING THAT TRANSIT IS LOCAL. EVERY COMMUNITY IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT IN HOW THEY THINK ABOUT TRANSIT AND THE GOALS THAT THEY HAVE, WHETHER IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR, UM, HELPING, UH, UH, POPULATIONS THAT HAVE LIMITED MOBILITY, ACCESS, JOBS AND HEALTHCARE AND ESSENTIAL SERVICES. UM, BUT WHAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IS TO KIND OF MOVE HERE TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR PRESENCE HERE IN NORTH TEXAS. UM, WE'VE INVESTED HEAVILY, UH, IN THE TEXAS MARKET OVERALL, BUT REALLY HERE IN NORTH TEXAS, IT'S BECOME A BEDROCK FOR, FOR VIA AND OUR, OUR COMPANY AND OUR ABILITY TO REALLY PROVIDE GREAT MOBILITY SOLUTIONS ACROSS THE STATE. UM, WE HAVE, UH, ABOUT 300, UM, UH, VEHICLES OPERATING IN THE, IN THE DALLAS METROPLEX. UH, WE ALSO HAVE ABOUT 700 DIFFERENT DRIVERS, UH, THAT ARE, UH, OPERATING OUR SERVICES. [01:30:01] SO WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT SCALE HERE ACROSS, UM, THE, THE ENTIRE REGION AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO BUILD. YOU'LL SEE A FEW LOGOS HERE THAT YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE, FOR EXAMPLE, DCTA, UM, IN DENTON COUNTY, TRINITY METRO, UM, UH, IN TARRANT COUNTY. AND THEN ALSO, UM, THE, THE CITY OF PLANO HERE, WHICH WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THEM TO LAUNCH A LOCAL SERVICE THERE. SO, AGAIN, EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND AND I THINK THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS, HAVE UNDERSTOOD THE TRANSIT NEEDS HERE IN IN ADDISON AND, AND HOPEFULLY OUR RESPONSIBLE, UH, OUR RESPONSE HERE IS, UH, REALLY SPEAKING TO THE NEEDS SPECIFICALLY HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY. I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS HERE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE REGION SPECIFICALLY AND, AND TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THE FUNDAMENTAL IDEA AND GOAL WAS, WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT AS WE THINK ABOUT, AGAIN, TAILORING A SERVICE VERY LOCAL TO, UH, TO ADDISON. SO WE LOOK AT ARLINGTON, TEXAS OVER HERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. THIS IS A REALLY A STORY OF ACCESS. UH, THE CITY OF ARLINGTON IS WHERE WE OPERATE A CITYWIDE MICRO TRANSIT SERVICE THAT IS REALLY EXPANDING THE ACCESS FOR RESIDENTS TO GET TO JOBS, GET TO HEALTHCARE APPOINTMENTS, REALLY ACCESS ESSENTIAL SERVICES OF ALL KINDS. UM, WITH TRINITY METRO AND FORT WORTH, WE'RE OPERATING THEIR PARATRANSIT SERVICE, UH, ALONGSIDE A, A MICRO TRANSITS SERVICE. AND, UM, TRULY THE, THE STORY HERE, PARTICULARLY ON THE PARATRANSIT SIDE, HAS ALWAYS BEEN HOW DO WE IMPROVE THE RIDER EXPERIENCE? HOW DO WE GET FOLKS TO WHERE THEY WANNA GO? PARTICULARLY THOSE WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, INSENSITIVE POPULATIONS THAT HAVE MOBILITY CHALLENGES, UM, MORE EASILY TO THEIR FINAL DESTINATIONS. AND SO SOME GREAT STATISTICS HERE. WE, WE'VE REALLY REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THESE RIDERS ARE ON VEHICLES AND WE'VE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS TOO BY INTRODUCING BETTER TECHNOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO TRACK RIDES AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SHOWING UP ON TIME AND GETTING PEOPLE TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO, UM, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. AND FINALLY, ON D-C-T-A-D-C-T ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, UM, THIS IS KIND OF AN EFFICIENCY STORY. WE'VE, UH, WE'VE REALLY GROWN OUR MICRO TRANSIT PROGRAM ON IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DCTA IN DENTON COUNTY. AND, UM, THE, THE REDUCTION IN THE COST PER TRIP, UH, RELATIVE TO THE PREVIOUS PROGRAMS THAT THEY WERE RUNNING, INCLUDING SOME OF THEIR FIXED ROUTES THAT WERE NOT SUPER EFFICIENT, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT BY ABOUT 75%. SO, YOU KNOW, EACH OF THESE COMMUNITIES HAVE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT GOALS, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THIS SPEAKS TO THE ABILITY FOR VIA TO REALLY FLEXIBLE, UM, HAVE A FLEXIBLE MODEL AND, AND REALLY HAVE A FLEXIBLE SOLUTION, UH, DEPENDING ON THE MARKET THAT WE'RE OPERATING IN, IN. I'M GONNA PASS IT OVER TO THOMAS TO TALK MORE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SOLUTION AND THEN, UM, AARON'S GONNA SPEND SOME TIME ON THE OPERATIONS. GREAT. SO THE WAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS OPPORTUNITY, UM, IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO THREE DIFFERENT PILLARS. FIRST OF ALL, SERVICE CONTINUITY. WE REALIZE THAT THIS IS A, A FAIRLY UNIQUE SITUATION WITH THE POTENTIAL WITHDRAWAL FAST APPROACHING. AND I WANNA GIVE A VERY CLEAR MESSAGE HERE TO THE THEME OF OUR EXTENSIVE PRESENCE IN THE REGION THAT PUTS US IN A VERY UNIQUE SPOT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT A LAUNCH AT AN EXTREMELY ACCELERATED BASIS. WE CAN CONFIDENTLY DELIVER YOUR FULL MICROT TRANSIT AND PARATRANSIT SOLUTION IN FOUR WEEKS, UH, FROM CONTRACT AWARD DATE. UM, AND THAT IS, AGAIN, VERY MUCH A REFLECTION OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE AN EXTENSIVE SCALE ALREADY IN PLACE HERE THAT ALLOWS US TO REALLY KICKSTART A LOT OF THE WORKFLOWS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE TAKE CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. WE'RE ALSO SIMULTANEOUSLY WORKING ON OUR OWN LAUNCH WITH PLANO, WHICH AGAIN, THE WORKFLOWS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO GET A SERVICE UP AND RUNNING IN AN EXCELLENT STANDING, UM, THEY ARE ALREADY HERE, THEY ARE READY TO GO. THE NEXT PIECE, LOOKING FURTHER AT KIND OF CONTINUITY, BUT SPECIFICALLY THE MOST SENSITIVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE A VERY CLEAR MANTRA, NO RIGHT OR LEFT BEHIND. SO WITH VIA, WE ARE DELIVERING PARATRANSIT SERVICES ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES, AND TO DO SO, WE HAVE AN EXTENSIVE PROCESS OF VETTING, TRAINING OUR DRIVERS, MAKING SURE THEY'RE FULLY UP TO SPEED ON EVERYTHING RELATED TO SENSITIVITY NEEDS A DA TRAINING. THESE ARE AN FTA COMPLIANT GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS. UM, AND REALLY OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MAY HAVE A MOBILITY IMPAIRMENT, WHO MAY NEED AN EXTRA LEVEL OF SERVICE, WE ARE MEETING THEM WHERE THEY NEED TO BE MET. UM, AND AND A BIG PART OF THIS TOO IS THE TYPE OF LOCAL ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'RE PROVIDING. YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A BEHIND THE SCENES BUTTON WE PRESS AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE THINK THAT'S THE EXTENT OF IT. WE ARE ON THE GROUND IN ADDISON WORKING WITH YOUR TARGET POPULATIONS THAT YOU PRIORITIZE AS BEING, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY SENSITIVE COHORTS AND SPENDING TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE SERVICE. THEY ARE NOT JUST AWARE OF IT, BUT EXCITED ABOUT UTILIZING. AND THIS IS, AGAIN, GOOD OLD FASHIONED ON THE GROUND WORK. WE SPEND AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME DOING THAT IN ALL OF OUR TURNKEY MARKETS. FINALLY, TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. UM, SIMPLY PUT EVERY SINGLE DATA POINT THAT COMES FROM OUR SOFTWARE, THAT COMES FROM OUR OPERATIONS, THAT IS CORRECT, THAT IS YOUR DATA, YOU HAVE IT FULLY AVAILABLE AT ANY POINT. WE ARE MEETING WITH YOU ON AN ONGOING BASIS TO DISCUSS HOW THE SERVICE IS TRACKING, HOW PERFORMANCE IS LOOKING, WHERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OPTIMIZATION LIE THAT IS, AGAIN, CONSTANT ON A WEEKLY BASIS. WE WANT THIS SERVICE TO SUCCEED IN YOUR EYES JUST AS WE WANT IT TO SUCCEED FOR US. AND HAVING THE DATA AT THE CORE OF THAT, UM, IS VERY INTENTIONAL. AND ULTIMATELY LOOKING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, YOU KNOW, FROM A CONTRACT AND FINANCE STANDPOINT, ZERO HIDDEN COSTS. THAT IS AGAIN, BACK TO THE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY MINDSET. THAT'S THE KEY PILLAR, HOW WE'RE DELIVERING. UM, MOVING TO [01:35:01] A COUPLE OTHER PIECES, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SERVICE DESIGN AND THE ACTUAL APPROACH. SO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'VE ENVISIONED AS OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, TOWN WIDE ZONE CAPTURES ALL OF THE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES. AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WOULD DO HERE IS PROVIDE ON-DEMAND MICROT TRANSIT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE TOWN. THIS WOULD BE COMPLIMENTED BY RALLY POINTS THAT WE WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TOWN TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'D LIKE THOSE STRATEGICALLY PLACED. AND ON TOP OF THAT, FOR THE PARATRANSIT COMMUNITY, ANY OF THOSE ELIGIBLE, A DA RIDERS WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE UTILIZING THE PARA TRANSITS OF SERVICE THE WAY THEY'RE CURRENTLY FAMILIAR WITH DARK MEANING THEY CAN TAKE THOSE INTERCITY TRIPS TO TAKE THEM TO ANY OF THE 13 MEMBER CITIES. UM, SHIFTING TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE AND TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT APPROACH, I I, I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF VENDOR SOLUTIONS INVOLVED IN THE MIX, AND I THINK YOU ARE IN A LUCKY SITUATION IN THAT ALL OF THE COMPANIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN DELIVERING A PIECE OF THE SOLUTION HERE, THEY HAVE A LOT OF EXXON OFFERINGS, UM, TO PRESENT FOR YOU. VIA HAS OUR OWN VERY UNIQUE APPROACH, AND THAT IS ONE WHERE TECHNOLOGY AND OPERATIONS ARE DELIVERED ON A COMPLETELY UNIFIED BASIS. SO WHEN YOU WORK WITH VIA, WE ARE DELIVERING THE SOFTWARE, WE ARE DELIVERING THE OPERATIONAL ASPECT, EVERY SINGLE PIECE FROM END TO END. THIS IS PART OF VIA. AND WE HAVE FOUND THAT, AGAIN, FOR US, THIS IS WHAT DELIVERS THE GREATEST LEVEL OF RELIABILITY AND QUALITY OF THE LONG TERM. IF I LOOK AT SERVICES IN THE REGION LIKE ARLINGTON, I THINK SOME OF YOU HAVE VISITED AND ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT SERVICE. AGAIN, THE SUCCESS OF ARLINGTON, THE GROWTH OF THAT SERVICE FROM A SMALL PILOT TO TRULY A NATIONAL FIRST IN TERMS OF CITYWIDE ON DEMAND COVERAGE, THAT IS THE RESULT OF HAVING THAT END-TO-END OWNERSHIP. UM, AND SO AGAIN, IT IS OUR APPROACH. WE FEEL LIKE IT DELIVERS THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF EXCELLENCE FOR LAUNCHING A SERVICE LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE BEING CONTEMPLATED THERE ON THE MICRO TRANSIT FRONT. UM, JUST TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT THAT EXPERIENCE WOULD LOOK LIKE, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT THE ZONE, UM, BUT FROM A RIDER STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD PROVIDE A CUSTOM WHITE LABELED RIDER APPLICATION FROM AN INDIVIDUAL SOMEWHERE IN ADDISON WHO'S INTERESTED IN A MOBILITY OPTION. WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS THEY PULL OUT THAT APP, THEY'D SAY, I'M TRYING TO GO TO POINT D. THE APPLICATION WOULD FIGURE OUT HERE'S THE OPTIMAL RIDE PROPOSAL TO MEET THAT REQUEST. YOU'D BE ABLE TO TRACK THAT RIDE AS IT APPROACHES YOU, UM, GET IN THE VEHICLE AND YOU HAVE EXCELLENT SHARED JOURNEY. UM, AS THE VEHICLE MOVES THROUGH THE ZONE, WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO PAIR YOU WITH OTHER INDIVIDUALS. SO WE'RE USING THAT SHARED RIDE OPPORTUNITY TO DELIVER HIGHER LEVELS OF EFFICIENCY TO THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S BASED ON OUR ALGORITHM. WE'RE FIGURING OUT WHEN IT MAKES SENSE TO GROUP PASSENGERS TOGETHER AND WHEN IT DOESN'T, IF THE TRIP IS OVERLY CIRCUITOUS, WE'LL NOT DELIVER THE THE SHARED RIDE OPTION. UM, BEYOND THAT ASPECT OF THE EXPERIENCE, I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT WE'RE LEANING ON, YOU KNOW, USE OF THE APP, BUT TO BE VERY CLEAR, EVERY ONE OF THE SERVICES WE LAUNCH HAS A DEDICATED CALL IN LINE. SO ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO IS EITHER MORE COMFORTABLE WITH USING THE SMARTPHONE APP OR WHO SIMPLY PREFERS THAT HUMAN TO HUMAN DISCUSSION TO BOOK THE RIDE THAT IS FULLY AVAILABLE TO THEM. UM, ADDITIONALLY FOR THE RIDER, THE EXPERIENCE WE ARE ALREADY FULLY INTEGRATED WITH GO PASS. SO TO THE THEME OF JOURNEYS THAT EXIST OR THAT CONTEMPLATE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT MEMBER CITIES THAT GO BEYOND THE BOUNDARIES OF ADDISON. WE CAN PROVIDE THEM WITH A PROPOSAL IN THE APP THAT SHOWS THEM THE DIFFERENT LEGS OF THAT JOURNEY. AND IT'S NOT A CASE WHERE WE'RE ONLY GOING TO SHOWCASE A VIA PROVIDED SOLUTION. WE CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL PUBLIC TRANSIT MODES IN THE REGION. UM, SO THAT IS AGAIN, A BIG THEME IN TERMS OF DELIVERING THAT EXCEPTIONAL EXPERIENCE TO THE RIDER. ON THE PARATRANSIT FRONT, THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT ANGLES THAT I WANNA EMPHASIZE. NUMBER ONE, DRIVER TRAINING. UM, WHEN IT COMES TO SERVING INDIVIDUALS WITH A POTENTIAL MOBILITY IMPAIRMENT OR JUST A, A NEED OF SOME SORT THAT REQUIRES EXTRA LEVEL OF SERVICE, YOU KNOW, THE DRIVERS ARE AT THE CORE OF ENSURING THAT THE EXPERIENCE IS POSITIVE. SO ALL OF OUR PARATRANSIT DRIVERS ARE A DA COMPLIANT. THEY GO THROUGH EXTENSIVE TRAINING TO UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING FROM NOT JUST HOW TO INTERACT WITH THOSE CUSTOMERS, BUT HOW TO ASSIST THEM, HOW TO HELP WITH WHEELCHAIR SECUREMENT, HOW TO PROVIDE THAT HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT IS INTEGRAL TO ACTUALLY DELIVERING A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE. ADDITIONALLY, BEYOND THE DRIVERS, IT'S THE OPERATIONAL ASSETS, THE FLEET. SO IN OUR PROPOSAL, WE'VE, UM, LISTED MULTIPLE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES. THAT'S OUR STANDARD APPROACH WHEN WE'RE DELIVERING A DA PARATRANSIT SERVICES. THESE ARE FULLY RETROFITTED VEHICLES THAT ARE, IN THIS CASE, WE'RE LOOKING AT MODELS THAT WOULD HAVE A LARGE REAR ENTRY WHEELCHAIR RAMP. UM, AGAIN, DRIVERS WILL ASSIST TO ENSURE THAT THE ENTRY AND EXIT FROM THAT VEHICLE IS A SMOOTH ONE FOR THE RIDER. AND FINALLY, ON THE PARATRANSIT FRONT, WE HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WHEN IT COMES TO FULL REPORTING AND COMPLIANCE NEEDS. SO WE WILL SUPPORT YOU WITH ALL OF YOUR FDA AND COG ASSOCIATED [01:40:01] REPORTING NEEDS. UM, AS WE LAUNCH AND RUN THE SERVICE LONG TERM. BACK TO THE OPERATIONAL ASSETS, THE, THE FLEET ITSELF, WE HAVE A VERY WIDE RANGE OF VEHICLES THAT WE CAN USE. I'VE PUT A SELECTION HERE, EVERYTHING FROM AN ARLINGTON, UH, HYBRID MINIVAN THAT I THINK, AGAIN, YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH JUST SOME OTHER FORM FACTORS WE'VE USED. UM, LOOKING AT THE MERCEDES SPRINTER VAN ON THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER, ID BUZZ IF YOU'D PREFER A FULLY ELECTRIC OPTION OR ANOTHER ELECTRIC ROUTE WE COULD GO AS THE TESLA MODEL. UM, THAT'S ACTUALLY A SERVICE WE LAUNCHED JUST OUTSIDE OF HOUSTON AND SUGAR LAND ABOUT A YEAR AGO. UM, SO THE THEME I, I REALLY WANT TO HIT HARD HERE IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO VEHICLE PRIORITY AND PREFERENCE, WE CAN WORK AROUND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT NEEDS, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT GOALS. WE CAN ADJUST THIS FLEET TO MEET YOUR PREFERENCES. UM, AND WE HAVE EXPERIENCE IN DOING THAT IN OUR MARKETS ALL AROUND TEXAS AND THE US. UM, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA PASS IT TO AARON TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SAFETY. YEAH, UH, ABSOLUTELY. SO SAFETY IS OBVIOUSLY REALLY, REALLY THE, THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THE CORE OF WHAT WE DO. AS MC MACHINE STARTS DRIVER TRAINING, UH, WE DO HAVE W2 DRIVERS AS WELL, INCLUDING I HAVE OVER 60 OF THEM HERE IN THE DF TO DO AREA AS WELL AS DRIVER TRAINERS, UM, AND FOLKS WHO ARE TRADITIONALLY CERTIFIED, UH, IN THAT ASPECT THAT CONDUCT TRAINING HERE. WE ALSO HAVE A LOCAL DISPATCH TEAM. UM, SO WE HAVE DISPATCH TEAM THAT THE DFW AREA COVERS FROM 3:00 AM UNTIL MIDNIGHT. UM, VARIOUS SERVICES THAT WE HAVE TO PREPARE TRANSIT THAT OPERATES AT AT VARIOUS HOURS OF THE DAY. UM, ON THE DRIVER RECRUITMENT FRONT, UM, MOST OF OUR DRIVER RECRUITMENT ACTIVITIES ACTUALLY COME FROM REFERRALS. UM, SO WE, A LOT OF OUR EMPLOYEES REFER THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH THAT. AS WELL AS OTHER MARKETING OUTREACH WE DO, THERE'S WHOLE BACKGROUND CHECKS AND REEMPLOYMENT DRUG AND ALCOHOL TESTING. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A RANDOM DRUG AND ALCOHOL TESTING PROGRAMS FOR ALL OF OUR DRIVERS, PART OF OUR FT A COMPLIANCE AND, UH, FOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE F FDA A FRONTED AS WELL. UM, EARLIER TODAY I WAS IN DENTON'S FOR, UH, ONE OF OUR DRIVER SAFETY MEETINGS IN TOWN HALL, UH, WITH THE D CT A SERVICE. UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO REGULARLY. AND WE HAVE, AGAIN, REFRESHER TRAINING WITH A CUSTOMER SERVICE, UM, PASSENGER DEESCALATION TRAINING. SO THERE WAS SOME MENTIONED EARLIER OF PERHAPS A, A, A RIDER BOARDS, BUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A FAIR. UM, SO WE HAVE OUR DRIVERS TRAINED IN, IN THIS DEESCALATION AND HOW TO, UM, REPORT THOSE SITUATIONS WHEN THEY, IF AND WHEN THEY OCCUR. UM, BUT TO DEESCALATE IN THE MOMENT, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, UH, ONE OF THE KEY ASPECTS OF SAFETY FOR US IS OUR CAMERA SYSTEM. UH, ALSO USE THE SAMSARA SYSTEM. UH, THIS SYSTEM MOUNTS JUST UNDER THE REAR VIEW MIRROR IN THE VEHICLE AND HAS A FORWARD FACING CAMERA OUT THE FRONT WINDSHIELD AS WELL AS THE REAR FACING CAMERA THAT'S, UH, CAPTURES THE DRIVER AS WELL AS THE PASSENGER COMPARTMENT. AND SO, UM, WE CAN USE THIS FOR INCIDENT INVESTIGATION, BUT ALSO THE PROACTIVE SAFETY ALERTS, UH, GIVES ALERTS TO THE DRIVERS IN REAL TIME IF THEY'RE DETECTED TO BE DOING SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AN UNSAFE PRACTICE. UM, IT ALSO RECORDS THAT INFORMATION AND GIVES THE DRIVERS A SAFETY SCORE AND, UH, MYSELF AND MY TEAM ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE CAN LOOK AT THAT INFORMATION AND COACH DRIVERS AS NEEDED OR, UM, OTHER DISCIPLINARY, UH, ASPECTS IF NEEDED. UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE OTHER SORT OF SEE SOME OF THE BACKEND TOOLS THAT WE USE ON THE MANAGEMENT SIDE TO FULLY TRACK VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AS NEEDED, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE FULLY PROVIDE. UM, NOT ONLY VEHICLES, BUT ALSO THE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE. UM, AS WELL AS, AS I MENTIONED KIND OF THE, THE TRACKING FOR THE DRIVERS AND THEIR BEHAVIORS. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE AVERAGE A 35% LOWER ACCIDENT RATE VERSUS THE FDA AVERAGE NATIONWIDE, UH, BACKWARDS. SORRY. GREAT. I THINK YOU ALL HAVE PROBABLY SEEN A THEME HERE WHEN WE DO A REALLY GREAT JOB OF INTEGRATING TECHNOLOGY AND OPERATIONS TO BUILD A, A PRETTY SEAMLESS PLATFORM THAT ALLOWS, YOU KNOW, WRITERS IN THE COMMUNITY TO ACCESS A TRULY GREAT PLATFORM AND ACCESS ALL LEVELS OF SERVICE ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY CARE ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY, AS, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, BUILDING THIS REALLY GREAT OPERATION THAT'S TECHNOLOGY ENABLED IS, IS ACTUALLY GETTING THE SERVICE IN THE HANDS OF WRITERS. AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US. UM, WE DO A LOT OF THINGS, UM, PRE-LAUNCH, POST-LAUNCH TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO STAY AWARE OF THE SERVICE AND HOW TO USE IT, HOW TO ENGAGE WITH IT, WHERE IT GOES, WHERE IT DOESN'T GO, HOW TO CONNECT INTO THE BRIGHTER SYSTEM. ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AS WE THINK ABOUT LAUNCHING A SERVICE. UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HIGHLIGHT HERE ARE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND I, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. JUST LAST WEEK WE WERE AT THE, UM, THE AIRTRANS ACCESSIBILITY COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, FOR TRINITY METRO IN FORT WORTH. AND SO WE'RE SPENDING TIME WITH THESE GROUPS OF INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE A PASSION AND HAVE A STRONG INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THAT ALL WRITERS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY ARE BEING SERVED. AND, AND THAT MEETING WE'RE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE HOW DO WE GO DIRECTLY INTO SENIOR CENTERS? HOW DO WE GO DIRECTLY INTO, UM, DIALYSIS SENIORS AND, AND REALLY MAKING SURE THAT FOLKS IN THESE AREAS, AGAIN, TO THOMAS'S POINT, MEETING THEM WHERE THEY ARE AND HELPING PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A NEW TRANSIT SERVICE AND THIS IS HOW TO USE IT. HERE'S HOW TO DOWNLOAD THE APP. IF YOU DON'T WANNA DOWNLOAD THE APP, HERE'S HOW TO MAKE A PHONE CALL. UM, ALL THESE THINGS AND GETTING IT IN FRONT OF OUR, OUR WRITERS IS, IS OF CRUCIAL IMPORTANCE TO US. UM, WE'LL ALSO CREATE MATERIALS, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, FLYERS, UM, TO, TO THOMAS'S POINT KIND OF GETTING OLD, OLD SCHOOL AND GETTING BOOTS ON THE GROUND REALLY IMPORTANT TO US, BUT LEAVE BEHINDS ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THESE, [01:45:01] UH, CENTERS AND, YOU KNOW, TO HALL HERE WOULD BE EQUIPPED TO, UM, HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION AND POSTERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO, UH, GET THIS TRANSIT SYSTEM IN THE HANDS OF RIDERS. AND THEN FINALLY, WE, WE GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND WE TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY. WE'RE, WE'RE, AFTER EVERY MICRO TRANSITS TRIP, FOR EXAMPLE, OR PARATRANSIT TRIP THAT IS TAKING, USING OUR APP, EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO RATE THAT, RIGHT? AND WE, WE TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND AND INVESTIGATE THE COMPLAINTS THAT CAN DO THERE. UM, BUT WE ALSO, UH, LAUNCHED BESPOKE SURVEYS. WE ALWAYS WANNA GET BETTER INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE WRITERS THINK ABOUT THE SERVICE SO WE CAN CONTINUALLY IMPROVE. AND, UH, A GOOD KIND OF CASE STUDY HERE IS THAT WE LAUNCHED A, A, A CITYWIDE SERVICE IN NEW BRAUNFELS, RIGHT OUTTA SAN ANTONIO. UM, THIS WAS, THIS HAPPENED ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OVER THREE MONTHS. I BACK IN IN NOVEMBER. UM, BUT THIS WAS ALSO IN A, IN A KIND OF A SIMILAR FASHION TO WHAT'S, UH, POTENTIALLY HAPPENING HERE, A HARD CUTOFF FROM A PREVIOUS PROVIDER ONTO A VIA MICROT TRANSIT SERVICE. AND SO WHEN THIS HAPPENED, WE KNEW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A BIG CHANGE FOR WRITERS LOCALLY, AND WE HAD TO GET IN FRONT OF THESE WRITERS, UM, WITH, WITH VERY, YOU KNOW, STRONG INTENT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE FOLKS THAT ARE USING THE SERVICE TO GET TO ESSENTIAL SERVICES, UH, THE PREVIOUS SERVICE KNEW HOW TO ACCESS THE NEW VIA, UM, OPERATED SERVICE. AND SO WE DID THIS THROUGH A COMBINATION OF THINGS OF, YOU KNOW, BEING ON THE GROUND, BEING AT COMMUNITY CENTERS, LEAVING FLYERS BEHIND, DOING A LOT OF SOCIAL MEDIA. AND, AND SINCE THE LAUNCH, UM, WE, WE DELIVERED ABOUT 15,000 RIDES IN THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF SERVICE. AND GOING BACK TO THAT POST-TRIP RATING ON THE APP, UM, WE HAVE ABOUT A, A 4.9 OUT OF FIVE RATING ACROSS ALL DISTRICTS. SO, SO VERY EXCITED TO SEE KIND OF OUR ACTION HERE AND WORK AND OUR ABILITY TO, TO LAUNCH A SERVICE TRANSITION OVER, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S A HARD TRANSITION FROM A PREVIOUS PROVIDER AND, AND DO THAT VERY, VERY SUCCESSFULLY. UM, AND THE FINAL POINT I'LL LAND ON HERE IS THE DATA TRANSPARENCY. AND, AND THOMAS TALKED ABOUT THIS QUITE A BIT, BUT WE REALLY DO THINK THAT DATA PRINT TRANS IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF OUR PARTNERS, AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS DATA VERY ACCESSIBLE TO ALL OF YOU. UM, WE HAVE PROPRIETARY KIND OF, UH, PLANNING AND MAPPING TOOLS THAT WILL PROVIDE YOU ALL ACCESS TO WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY VISUALIZE YOUR DRIPS. YOU CAN GET HEAT MAPS OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FROM, YOU CAN CLICK ON A SPECIFIC POINT IN SOMEWHERE IN ADDISON AND FIGURE OUT WHERE ALL THE TRIPS COMING FROM THAT GO THERE AND WHERE ALL THE TRIPS FROM THEY'RE GOING TO. THESE WILL BE GREAT VISUALS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAPPEN TO BE GREAT VISUALS FOR ALL OF OUR PARTNERS. AND WE SEE THESE USED IN COUNCIL MEETINGS, WE SEE THESE USED, UH, JUST TO ASSESS THE HEALTH OF A SERVICE. AND THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS WE REALLY WANNA GIVE YOU, UM, DIRECT ACCESS TO, UM, THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS, ISSUES TO MOVE FORWARD HERE. UM, AND THEN FINALLY, UM, A VERY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MUNDANE BUT VERY IMPORTANT THING, FEDERAL REPORTING COMPLIANCE, UM, THERE, THERE'S GONNA BE POTENTIALLY SOME REPORTING THAT YOU ALL NEED TO DO IN THE FUTURE. AND OUR, OUR SYSTEM FULLY SUPPORTS THAT. UH, WE, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH, UH, MUNICIPALITIES, CITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY THAT ARE FDA FUNDED, THAT HAVE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS IN THE LOCAL DOTS. UM, AND, AND WE SUPPORT ALL THE REPORTING THAT'S NEEDED FOR, FOR ALL OF THE, THE FUNDING ASPECTS OF THOSE PROGRAMS AS WELL. SO, AGAIN, JUST KIND OF UNDERSCORING THE POINT, WE WANNA BE TRANSPARENT IF, UH, IF YOU CHOOSE TO PARTNER WITH, UH, WITH THE, UH, WE, WE WANNA MAKE ALL THIS DATA YOURS AND YOU ALL BE ABLE TO USE IT TO CONTINUE TO BUILD THE SERVICE INTO WHAT IT COULD BE. AND THAT'S THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION. I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE TIME AND WE WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, OR NOPE. WHO WAS THAT? RANDY? NOPE, CHRIS, BEAT THROUGH THE BUTTON. . I'LL JUST GET, SO SOME OF MY SAME QUESTIONS. YES. UM, WHAT PERCENT OF, UH, SHARED RIDES DO YOU SEE, UH, IN ADDISON? I MEAN, IS IT GONNA, IS IT GOING TO BE MORE SINGLE RIDERS OR SHARED RIDERS? YEAH, I, I WOULD SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, PHILOSOPHICALLY ALMOST, UH, SHARED RIDES, THE AMOUNT OF SHARED RIDES THAT HAPPEN IN ANY COMMUNITY IS ALMOST SOMEWHAT OF A POLICY DECISION IN A LOT OF WAYS. UM, SOME OF OUR PARTNERS REALLY ANCHOR ON EFFICIENCY OF THE SERVICE, SO WE WANNA BE SHARING RIDES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, AND WE'RE OKAY WITH OUR RIDERS DETOURING A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM THEIR FINAL DESTINATION TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP ANOTHER RIDER ALONG THE WAY. OR SOME OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS REALLY CARE ABOUT A QUICK DROP OFF FROM THE PICKUP TIME. SO MAYBE THESE, THESE RIDER ARE ROUTED MORE DIRECTLY. UM, OUR TECHNOLOGY ENABLES THE, UM, CONFIGURATION OF ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF MODES. SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALMOST A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL TO TELL US. YOU KNOW, WE REALLY CARE ABOUT EFFICIENCY, SO WE WANNA BE ABLE TO AGGREGATE MORE RIDES OR ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE REALLY CARE ABOUT A QUICK, YOU KNOW, PICKUP AND A QUICK DROP OFF, AND WE CAN ANCHOR THE, THE TECHNOLOGY TO GO THAT WAY. I THINK IN, IN ADDISON, PARTICULARLY AS WE LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THE AREA, IT'S ABOUT FOUR SQUARE MILES. IT'S FAIRLY SMALL. SO WE, WE SEE FAIRLY HIGH POTENTIAL FOR AGGREGATION HERE. UM, WE SEE, YOU KNOW, SMALLER CITIES, SMALLER TOWNS, UM, GENERALLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE'S FOLKS THAT ARE MOVING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS PRETTY CONTINUOUSLY, THEY'RE SHORT DISTANCE TRIPS, THERE'S GOOD POTENTIAL FOR AGGREGATION HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, SO I, I WANNA TALK ABOUT YOUR TECHNOLOGY YEAH. FOR A MINUTE. SO, UM, FIRST OF ALL, WILL IT INTEGRATE WITH APPLE MAPS? SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH APPLE MAPS AND GOOGLE MAPS. HISTORICALLY, MICROT TRANSIT SERVICES HAVE NOT SHOWN UP AS YOU'RE TRYING TO BOOK APPLE MAPS AND GOOGLE MAPS. WHAT WE DO RELY ON THOUGH, IS KIND OF THESE TRANSIT MOBILITY APPS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE CALLED LIKE MOBILITY AS A SERVICE APPS OR MOSS APPS, AND GO PASS IS ONE OF THOSE. AND SO WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED ON BUILDING INTEGRATIONS WITH, UH, WITH, UH, TRANSIT PLANNING APPS, SO THAT PUBLIC TRANSIT PLANNING APPS. SO WE HAVE OUR OWN VERSION OF THIS CALLED CITYMAP, WHERE WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE PARTNERING WITH, UM, UH, WITH GO PASS AS WELL TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE VISIBILITY INTO SERVICES THROUGH GO PASS. UM, BUT JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, UM, HISTORICALLY, GOOGLE MAPS AND APPLE MAPS HAVE NOT INTEGRATED MICROT TRANSIT INTO THEIR JOURNEY PLANNING. OKAY. AND THEN YOU TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT IN YOUR PRESENTATION, WHAT WILL IT LOOK LIKE? YOU [01:50:01] KNOW, UH, OBVIOUSLY I LIVE IN ADDISON AND LET'S SAY I WANT TO GET TO A RESTAURANT, I KNOW I SHOULDN'T SAY THIS IN DALLAS, WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT ? SO, YEAH, UM, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? I, I'D HAVE TO PULL UP YOUR APP, RIGHT? IS IT SMART ENOUGH TO INTEGRATE WITH THE DAR APP TO, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT ALL THESE RALLY POINTS YEAH. SMART ENOUGH TO TAKE ME TO THE RALLY POINT THAT'LL BE MOST EFFICIENT FOR ME TO GET A BUS OR A TRAIN TO GET TO WHERE I'M GOING. YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. SO, UM, THE WAY THAT WE STRUCTURE OUR PARTNERSHIPS IN THESE AREAS WHERE THESE APPS LIKE GO PASSER AVAILABLE, ARE THAT WE GIVE RIDER CHOICES. SO WE WILL HAVE OUR APP HERE, UM, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, IN ADDISON WHERE WE HAVE THE ADDISON BRANDED APP, UM, DEVELOPED BY VIA, IT WOULD HAVE YOUR, YOU KNOW, LOCAL APP HERE. THAT APP ALSO CONNECTS INTO THE DART SYSTEM. SO WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH TRANSIT AGENCIES AND BUS SYSTEMS ARE ALL OVER THE WORLD. UM, THEY PRODUCE WHAT WE CALL GTFS FEEDS AND GTFS FEEDS ARE EFFECTIVELY REAL TIME TRACKING THROUGH BUSES AND THOSE THAT REAL-TIME TRACKING GETS INGESTED BY THE VIA APP. AND SO WE KNOW WHERE THE BUSES ARE, THE TIMINGS OF THOSE BUSES, NOT JUST THE SCHEDULED TIMINGS, BUT THE ACTUAL TIMING. SO IF A BUS IS RUNNING BEHIND THAT ACTUALLY GETS UPDATED THROUGH THAT REAL-TIME FEED, THAT'S, THAT'S FILING INTO THE VIA APP. SO LET'S SAY YOU'RE BOOKING, UM, A RIDE TO GO INTO DALLAS, UH, FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR A RESTAURANT, FOR A SOCIAL EVENT, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE, THE VIA APP, UM, WOULD PROVIDE THE FULL JOURNEY PLAN END TO END. SO IT WOULD TAKE YOU ON A MICRO TRANSIT RIDE TO, LET'S SAY ONE OF THESE CONNECTION POINTS TO A DART STATION, AND IT WOULD REALTIME TRACK THE BUS AND TELL YOU EXACTLY THAT. WHEN YOU ARRIVE HERE, BASED ON THE ETA OF THE VEHICLE TO GET TO YOU AND HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE BASED ON REAL TIME TRAFFIC TO GET TO THAT STATION, YOU'RE GONNA WAIT FIVE MINUTES FOR THE BUS, 10 MINUTES FOR THE BUS, BASED ON THE REAL TIME TRACKING INFORMATION OF THAT BUS. YOU WILL BOARD THAT BUS. UM, IT'LL BE 15 STOPS UNTIL YOU GET OFF, AND THAT'S GONNA BE YOUR DESTINATION, UM, AT THE END. AND SO ALL THAT'S PULLED TOGETHER IN THE VIA APP, THE SAME THING WITH THE GO PASS APP. SO YOU HAVE CHOICES. UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF OUR, OUR PHILOSOPHY HERE. YOU CAN CHOOSE TO ACCESS TRANSIT AND HOWEVER YOU WANT TO. AND SAME THING WITH THE GO PASS APP. IT'S NATIVELY INTEGRATED. YOU CAN BOOK AND TRACK AND PAY FOR YOUR MICRO TRANSIT RIDE WITHIN THE GO PASS APP AND THEN CONNECT INTO THE, UH, UM, THE BROADER GUARD SYSTEM FROM THERE. GREAT TO HEAR. AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF YOU SHARING ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU GET. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT'S REVIEWS, WHETHER THEY'RE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE AS WELL. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. UM, AND THEN JUST ON, ON THE VEHICLES, I HEARD YOU SAY WE GET TO CHOOSE WHAT VEHICLES THEY MIGHT BE, UM, AND SOME OF THE SAME QUESTIONS. WHO'S GONNA MAINTAIN THEM? UM, WHO'S GONNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEING, YOU KNOW, WELL MAINTAINED ON THE INSIDE, WHO'S, WHO'S RESPONSIBILITY IS THAT? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I'M ACTUALLY GONNA PASS IT OVER TO ERIN TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE DO IN LET'S SAY DCTA OR TRINITY METRO. THAT'S A YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO, UH, SHORT ANSWERS TO THE FIRST TWO QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF PROVIDING THE VEHICLES AND MAINTENANCE OF THE VEHICLES, THAT'S ALL ON US ON THE VEHICLE SIDE AS WELL AS CLEANING THE VEHICLES. UM, SO WE HAVE BOTH IN-HOUSE AND THIRD PARTY CLEANING COMPANIES THAT WE USE, AS WELL AS, UM, MYSELF AND OUR OTHER MANAGEMENT TEAM, WHICH IS HERE LOCALLY. UH, WE INSPECT THOSE, MAKE SURE THEY'RE READY TO GO. DRIVERS ALSO COMPLETE A PRE-TRIP AND A POST-TRIP INSPECTION AT THE BEGINNING AND END OF THEIR DRIVE TIMES AND SHIFTS. AND SO WE CAPTURE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. AND WE CAN MARK A VEHICLE OUT OF SERVICE IF WE NEED TO, TO GET IT CLEANED FURTHER. UM, OR WE CAN, UH, DO DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE TO MAINTAIN THOSE STANDARDS. AND AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M HERE LOCAL, AS I MENTIONED, ONE A FEW MINUTES AWAY. UH, WE'LL ALSO HAVE A FIELD MANAGER AT A MINIMUM THAT'S ASSIGNED TO THIS, UH, SERVICE. AND SO THEY'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, UH, WITH MYSELF AND THE REST OF THE TEAM OVERSEEING. GREAT, THANK YOU. AND THEN THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION. BACK TO, UH, INFORMATION. I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU GUYS WILL MEASURE, LIKE ON TIME PERFORMANCE, RIDE COMPLETION, ANY KIND OF SAFETY INCIDENT, UH, ON TIME PICKUPS AND LATE PICKUPS. WE'LL GET ALL THAT INFORMATION AB ABSOLUTELY. YEP. ABSOLUTELY. AND, UM, WE EVEN HAVE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS FOR PARATRANSIT VERSUS MICROT TRANSITS IN TERMS OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UH, WE CONSIDER TO BE WHAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE FOR ON TIME OR WHAT THE, WITHIN X NUMBER OF MINUTES, YOU CAN CONFIGURE THAT EITHER FOR BOTH SYSTEM. UM, I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ONE PREVIOUS QUESTIONS ACTUALLY ABOUT SHARED RIDE PERCENTAGE. SO, UM, CURRENTLY WITH, IN SOME OF OUR DFW SERVICES, WE SEE SOME SERVICES ARE MORE IN THE 30% RANGE. UH, WE DO HAVE SOME SERVICES THAT ARE ABOVE 50% OF SHARED RIDES. UM, AND WE CAN DO MULTIPLE WRITERS AND JUST IN, WE CAN DO MULTIPLE RIDER ON ONE BOOKING, THAT'S COMPLETELY FINE. UM, YOU CAN DETERMINE FROM KIND, FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, YOU CAN DETERMINE WHETHER THAT IS MULTIPLE FARES OR SECOND RIDER FREE OR THAT, THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. WE'LL HAVE THE TAP AND GO INSIDE EACH VEHICLE. SO IF I HAD A DART PASS, I CAN PAY WITH MY DART PASS, I CAN PAY WITH MY PHONE. YEAH, WE WE CAN DO THAT. YEAH. WE TYPICALLY HAVE PAYMENT THROUGH THE APP WHERE WE DO ACCEPT CASH AS WELL, IF YOU'D LIKE TO. THAT'S AN OPTION, I THINK. MM-HMM . YEAH. YOU THINK YOU'RE, YEAH, I THINK, UM, JUST GOING BACK ON PAYMENT METHODS, IT, IT DEFINITELY IS A POLICY DECISION. YOU ALL ARE ABLE TO, UH, LET US KNOW WHICH TYPES OF, UH, FAIR MEDIA YOU WANNA TAKE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LET'S GO TO DAN. THANK YOU. THEY'LL MAKE MY QUESTIONS QUICK. APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. SO BACK TO SOME OF THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT I'D ASKED CIRCUIT, UM, AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE ASKED THAT SAME QUESTION. IS THERE A NATIONAL AGENCY THAT RANKS CUSTOMER SATISFACTION? [01:55:01] 'CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE 4.9 STARS VIS-A-VIS THE CITIES YOU LISTED ON YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT IS THERE LIKE A NATIONAL AGENCY, LIKE YOU HEAR ABOUT RANKINGS FOR AIRLINES, AMERICAN DELTA, UNITED, THAT GIVES NATIONAL RANKINGS. ARE THERE, IS THERE ANYONE IN CIRCUIT BEING STILL HERE? IS THERE ANYONE THAT RANKS YOU NATIONALLY? IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. UM, I WOULD NEED TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. I THINK THERE, THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT LIKE THE TSRB FOR EXAMPLE, THAT LOOK AT THESE TYPES OF SERVICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY NECESSARILY RANK THEM THOUGH. UM, I, I NEED TO, I NEED TO CHECK BACK. YEAH. AGENCIES, THEY'RE GIVING STRAIGHT FEEDBACK VERSUS HEARSAY OR VERSUS THIRD HAND ACCOUNTS. I, I, I THINK MAYBE NOT A NATIONAL AGENCY, BUT I DO THINK CITIES RUN THESE TYPES OF SURVEYS ON TRANSPORTATION MORE BROADLY ACROSS THEIR CITIZENS WITHOUT US BEING DIRECTLY INVOLVED. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL AS WELL, SHOULD YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH US TO RUN A BROADER MOBILITY SURVEY, WHICH WE DO SEE QUITE OFTEN. AND, AND THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE SIDEWALK INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC TRANSIT AND, YOU KNOW, TRAILS AND BIKE AND PEDWAYS. AND SO I THINK A, A GOOD WAY FOR YOU ALL TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THIS SERVICE, BUT MAYBE MORE BROADLY ACROSS MOBILITY WOULD BE TO, YOU KNOW, EXECUTE A SURVEY LOCALLY. YEAH. AND GOING BACK, IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK AND WATCH THE LAST SIX YEAH. UM, LET'S EVEN SAY FIVE COUNCIL MEETINGS, YOU'LL SEE THERE HAS BEEN, THERE HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS GIVING FEEDBACK ABOUT YOUR PRODUCT CIRCUITS PRODUCT. SOME OF IT NOT FAVORABLE. I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE BASED ON THOSE RATINGS THAT I JUST SAW THERE, THEY'RE COMPLETE POLAR OPPOSITES. IS IT AS IF THOSE SHOULD BE ONE STAR RATINGS AND NOT ALMOST NEAR FIVE STAR RATINGS? SO I'M WONDERING HOW FAIR THE FEEDBACK IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HEARING FROM THOSE CONSTITUENTS AND NON CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE GIVING FEEDBACK DURING COUNCIL MEETINGS HERE, PLANO, RICHARDSON, IRVING. IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT YOU THINK THOSE ARE ADEQUATE OR ACCURATE STATEMENTS THAT YOU'VE HEARD OR HAVE YOU NOT HEARD ANY OF THESE STATEMENTS VIS-A-VIS COUNCIL MEETINGS IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS? YES, LOOK, UH, WE TAKE EVERY SINGLE WRITER PIECE OF FEEDBACK VERY SERIOUSLY. AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE GET, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WHENEVER WE GET LESS THAN A A FIVE STAR RATING, A FOUR STAR, THREE STAR RATING, WE ACTIVELY INVESTIGATE, WE FOLLOW UP AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, YOU KNOW, WAS THERE A SITUATION WITH THE CLEANLINESS OF THE VEHICLE? WAS IT A ROUTING ISSUE? AND SO WE TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY. THE THE DATA WE, WE PRESENTED IS VERY, VERY MUCH SO, UM, POST RIDE, EVERYBODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO RATE OUR RIDE. YOU'RE NOT FORCED TO. SOME FOLKS DO, SOME FOLKS DON'T. UM, AND THAT IS VERY MUCH FROM THE DATA, UH, DIRECTLY, BUT ARLINGTON, BECAUSE BALL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE BALLPARK AND YOU HAVE COWBOY STADIUM, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE ARE SURGE PEAK TIMES AND MAYBE YOUR PERFORMANCES AREN'T FANTASTIC BECAUSE THE FLUX THAT'S BEING HIT ON YOU ALL ONE TIME. I COULD UNDERSTAND THOSE RANKINGS AND I CAN TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, BUT I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE, SOME OF THOSE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE RECEIVED OR SAT HERE AND LISTENED TO ARE JUST ON A GENERAL DAY IN, DAY OUT. RIDER SHIPS EXPERIENCE IS POOR. SO I'M JUST WAS LOOKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. I I APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH, OF COURSE. ON THAT, UM, BACK TO THE SAME QUESTION I'D ASKED THEM. SO SOMEBODY, UH, IF YOU HAVE A FEW PEOPLE GETTING ON ONE OF YOUR PRODUCTS TO, TO START THE RIDE SHARE AND THEY HAVE ALLIGATOR ARMS AND THEY DO NOT HAVE FUNDS, HOW ARE YOU GUYS HANDLING THE PRODUCT OF RIDERSHIP? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEBODY THAT MAY BE POTENTIALLY UN HOMED GETS ONTO YOUR PRODUCT? HOW IS THAT HANDLED FROM A SECURITY PERSPECTIVE WITH VIA, YEAH, FOR, FOR SOMEONE THAT'S GENERALLY, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN A, MAYBE A COUPLE OF CONTEXTS WHERE IF A SERVICE IS FULLY FREE, UM, THEN IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, WHO MAY JUST BE TRYING TO HAVE A, UM, YOU KNOW, A COVER OVER THEIR HEADS FOR A MOMENT, UM, MAY, MAY WRITE A SERVICE LIKE THIS. AND, UM, IF SOMEBODY IS GETTING OFF THE SERVICE AND THEY WERE GOING TO PAY CASH, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, SO WE DO ACCEPT CASH, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO. UM, WE, WE TRAIN TO, TO AARON'S POINT, THE DRIVER IS NOT TO BE CONFRONTATIONAL. I THINK THE WORST THING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A CONFRONTATION BETWEEN A PASSENGER AND A DRIVER THAT, UM, WILL PROBABLY NOT RESULT IN A VERY GOOD, YOU KNOW, UH, WILL PROBABLY NOT RESULT IN A VERY GOOD SOLUTION AT THE END OF THAT. AND SO DEESCALATION IS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR US. WE DON'T WANT TO CON CONFRONT OUR RIDERS IN, IN ANY SORT OF WAY THAT PUTS EITHER PARTY AT RISK. UH, I THINK WHAT WE DO FROM THERE IS WE CAN USE THE TECHNOLOGY TO, TO SUSPEND A RIDER AND TRACK AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS RIDER IS, DOES NOT BECOME A REPEAT OFFENDER. UM, BUT, BUT EFFECTIVELY WE, WE, WE WANT THE DRIVER RIDER INTERACTION TO BE AS SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE, AND WE CAN TAKE AS A TEAM HERE, UM, ACTION ON THE, ON THE BACKEND AFTER THE RIDE TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE AVOID THE REPEATABLE INCIDENTS THAT WE SEE. LIKE THAT VIA DOES NOT HAVE A POLICE FORCE DART HAS A POLICE FORCE, FOR EXAMPLE. SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS HOW DO YOU POLICE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A POLICE FORCE? ARE YOU STOPPING THE VEHICLE CALLING 9 1 1 WHEN THERE'S A POTENTIAL MEDICAL MENTAL EMERGENCY? HOW ARE, HOW IS THE COMPANY HANDLING THOSE INSTANCES? OH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UM, AARON, UM, LET'S TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE POLICY THAT I GUESS THAT WE HAVE. IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT MID RIDE OR THERE'S A MEDICAL EMERGENCY, I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN YEAH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THAT PARATRANSIT RIDERS OCCASIONALLY DO HAVE MEDICAL SITUATIONS, SO ABSOLUTELY, WE'LL, WE'LL STOP THE VEHICLE IN A SAFE PLACE IF WE NEED TO CALL 9 1 1. UM, I'VE HAD DRIVERS DO THAT, HAD DRIVERS WAIT THERE WITH A, YOU KNOW, UNTIL THE AMBULANCE ARRIVES. UM, SO, UH, AS , WE FIRST WORK TO, TO DEESCALATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, UM, IF IT'S MORE OF A SECURITY SITUATION, BUT IF IT'S A, A RIDER, YOU KNOW, MEDICAL SITUATION, WE WANT TO GET THEM MEDICAL ATTENTION AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. THANK, THANK YOU FOR THE, THE HELP IN CLARIFYING THAT. THAT'S IT FOR ME, BRUCE. THANKS RANDY. THANK YOU, SIR. [02:00:01] WE'RE KIND OF A SMALL TOWN, WE'RE PROUD OF THAT AND WE LOVE THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY TOWNS OF OUR SIZE THAT YOU CURRENTLY SERVE? YEAH, SO, UM, THINKING ABOUT SUBURBAN TOWNS THAT ARE SLIGHTLY SMALLER IN, UM, IN NATURE. SO I, I, I LOOK AT THE CITY OF LONE TREE IN COLORADO. UM, IT'S RIGHT OUTSIDE OF DENVER. IT'S A POPULATION OF ABOUT, I THINK 15 TO 20,000. UM, IN TERMS OF RESIDENTS. UM, THE CITY OF, UH, BAKER, WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF BATON ROUGE, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY IN THE 10 TO 15,000 RANGE. AND SO WE'RE OPERATING MICRO TRANSIT PROGRAMS, UM, IN, IN VERY SMALL SCALE, VERY LARGE SCALE, BUT I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS ABOUT THE V MODEL. WE CAN BE VERY FLEXIBLE TO, TO HAVE THAT LOCAL FEEL AND, AND DO, DO IT IN SMALLER, SMALLER SCALE THAN ARLINGTON, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A, A VERY, VERY LARGE SCALE. NOW WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE REFERRING TO POPULATION SMALL MM-HMM . WE'RE BOTH POPULATION, YEAH. AND AREA SMALL. YEAH. I THINK THE TOWNS THAT YOU JUST SIDED MAYBE A LITTLE LARGER IN SCOPE THAN WE ARE AS FAR AS AREA AND SQUARE MILEAGE. UH, THE SMALLER THE TOWN, I'M ASSUMING BEING, BEING AS SMALL AS WE ARE, THERE'S PROBABLY LESS CHANCE OF MULTIPLE RIDERS IN A CAR BECAUSE THE RIDES ARE GONNA BE TWO OR THREE MINUTES LONG. I CAN GET FROM ONE SIDE OF TOWN TO THE OTHER IN THREE MINUTES. SO, UH, I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT WOULD LEAD MORE TO A PRIVATE TYPE RIDE ON THAT. YEAH, SO I, ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THAT, UM, AND I'LL, I'LL DRAW AN EXAMPLE TO A, UM, A UNIVERSITY USE CASE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE OPERATE A SERVICE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO. UM, IT'S THEIR SAFE RIDE PROGRAM. SO AFTER HOURS, IT ALLOWS THE STUDENTS TO GET KIND OF WITHIN THE HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD FAIRLY, FAIRLY, YOU KNOW, SAFE, NOT FAIRLY SAFELY, SAFELY AND, UH, FAIRLY QUICKLY. BUT, UM, GIVEN THAT IT'S A SMALL AREA, WE ACTUALLY SEE A LOT OF RIDER AGGREGATION BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DEMAND THAT HAPPENS AROUND THAT TIME WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY MOVING NEARLY 12 PASSENGERS PER HOUR. SO OUR, OUR SHARING RATE IS ABOUT 90, OVER 90%, UM, IN, IN THAT CASE. AND THAT IS A VERY SMALL KIND OF TWO TO THREE SQUARE MILE, UM, CAMPUS THAT WE ARE WE'RE SERVING. SO, UH, IT MAY BE A LITTLE COUNTERINTUITIVE, BUT SOMETIMES THESE SHORT RIDES AND MULTIPLE REQUESTS AT THE SAME TIME JUST REALLY LEND WELL TO AGGREGATION BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT REALLY MOVING TOO FAR OUTSIDE OF YOUR, YOU KNOW, GOOGLE MAPS INTO EMPATH TO PICK UP ANOTHER WRITER ALONG THE WAY. OKAY. PERFECT. AND GOING SECOND, THE BENEFIT IS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS WE'RE GONNA ASK, AND YOU COVERED THEM IN YOUR PRESENTATION, SO I CAN, I CAN WIPE OFF A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS, BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE, AND I, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THEM NOT ONLY TO YOU, BUT TO CIRCUIT, AND I'M NOT GONNA HAVE CIRCUIT GET UP AND SPEAK, BUT IF YOU WILL RESPOND TO OUR STAFF IN WRITING WITH THESE QUESTIONS SO THE REST OF REST OF COUNCIL CAN GET THESE. PLEASE. UH, I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER SHARE RIDE APPS THAT CURRENTLY OFFER FEMALE REQUESTED DRIVER OPTIONS. DOES VIA OR CIRCUIT OFFER THAT, AND YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SAYING? I I DO. YEAH. MY WIFE ENJOYS THAT. WHEN SHE GOES AT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, SHE REQUESTS A FEMALE DRIVER AND, AND FOR A SAFETY FEEL ON THAT. YEAH, I'D LOVE TO, UH, RESPOND AS WELL. I'M WRITING TO STAFF IF THAT'S OKAY. UM, THAT'S PERFECT. JUST GIVE IF THAT'S FINE. YEAH. OKAY. BUT IF YOU WILL RESPOND TO THAT, YES, ABSOLUTELY WILL. THANK YOU. UM, AND I WOULD THE, HOW LONG DO YOU WAIT FOR A PASSENGER BEFORE YOU DECIDE THAT THEY ARE A NO-SHOW AND LEAVE? SAME QUESTION FOR RESPONSE IN WRITING, PLEASE. YEAH. UM, ON OUR SIDE, IT'S A POLICY DECISION. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S UP TO YOU ALL TO, TO DETERMINE AND TELL US HOW LONG YOU WANT US TO WAIT BEFORE WE NO SHOW A WRITER. AND SOME OF OUR PARTNERS SAY FIVE MINUTES, SOME SAY 10 MINUTES, SOME SAY TWO MINUTES. IT'S, IT'S TRULY UP TO YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND, TO ENFORCE THAT FOR OUR PERFECT, ASK US TO ENFORCE WHATEVER LEVEL TIPPING. DO, DO YOU ALLOW PASSENGERS TO TIP? NO, THIS IS, WE TREAT THIS TRULY LIKE PUBLIC TRANSIT, SO WE'RE NOT TIPPING OUR BUS DRIVERS. UM, WE'RE NOT TRIPPING OUR PARATRANSIT DRIVERS. SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOT TIPPING MICRO TRANSIT. SAME QUESTION IN RESPONSE. PLEASE. UH, DO YOUR RIDERS HAVE ANY KIND OF PANIC BUTTON IN IN THE VEHICLE? ANY WAY TO SUMMON HELP IF THEY FEEL THERE'S A PROBLEM IN THE BACK AND THEY CAN'T REALLY DIAL 9 1 1 FOR THE, THE PERSON IS, IS THERE ANY KINDA SAFETY FEATURE FOR THE DRIVERS AND PASSENGERS THERE? UH, FOR THE, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. I GUESS FOR THE PASSENGER THROUGH THE APPLICATION, UM, IF THEY'RE USING THE APPLICATION THERE, THERE IS A WAY TO, UH, TASK FOR HELP DIRECTLY WITHIN THE APP. AND SO WE HAVE BUILT THAT AS A SECURITY FEATURE, UM, FOR DRIVERS. UM, THE, WE, WE MENTIONED THOSE SAMSARA CAMERAS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DRIVERS ARE TRAINED, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A REALLY ESCALATED SITUATION PULLING OVER AND, AND ADDRESSING THE SITUATION, CALLING THE POLICE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. IF THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME UNSAFE BEHAVIOR THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, THE DRIVER THINKS THAT VIA, AS, YOU KNOW, OUR TEAM HERE MANAGING THE SERVICE NEEDS TO REVIEW, THERE'S A BUTTON ON THAT SAMSARA CAMERA THAT CAN GET THAT CAMERA TO EFFECTIVELY MARK A TIME POINT ON THE RECORDING. AND IT FLAGS TO OUR TEAM, UM, AARON AND HIS TEAM HERE IN, IN, UH, IN, IN THE AREA TO, UM, THERE MAY BE AN INCIDENT, WE NEED TO REVIEW IT AND WE NEED TO GET A RESOLUTION, FOR EXAMPLE. YEAH, THE MAN GETS IN THE VEHICLE AND HE DRAGS A WOMAN IN AND SHE DOESN'T ACT LIKE SHE WANTS TO BE. OH, YEAH. AND HE DOESN'T FEEL LIKE HE CAN CALL 9 1 1 TO DO THAT. IS THERE A WAY OF, OF NOTIFYING AUTHORITIES THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM HERE WITH THAT? HIM CALLING 9 1 1? YEAH, WE HAVE SOME SPECIFIC TRAINING, RIGHT. AARON, DO YOU WANNA, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT? YEAH, YEAH. [02:05:01] AGAIN, WE WANT TO WORK ON DEESCALATION TRAINING. WE ALSO HAVE OUR DRIVER'S TRAINING THAT IF YOU'RE IN THAT KIND OF SITUATION, LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE TO START THE RIDE, RIGHT? LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE TO CONTINUE ON. SO WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT AS LONG THEY'RE IN SAFE LOCATION, LET'S TRY TO GET SOME HELP IMMEDIATELY. PERFECT TYPE OF SITUATION. AND TO DAN'S, JUST TO TAG ON TO DAN'S POINT, YOU SAID YOU'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO US. PLEASE GET BACK TO US. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AS ON THE NATIONAL SURVEYS, IF THERE IS ANY KIND OF NATIONAL, UH, RANK RANKING SYSTEM WITH THIS, AND IF THERE'S NOT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ONE FORM. THIS IS BECOMING MORE POPULAR ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I THINK IT'S NEEDED. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SURE. HOWARD. SO, UH, WITH, WITH DART, WE'VE HAD COMPLAINTS AND, AND THINGS HAVE HAPPENED ABOUT VIOLENT CRIMES, MURDERS, STABBINGS, ANY OF THAT EVER HAPPEN ON VIA THE, DO Y'ALL HAVE THAT HISTORY AS WELL, OR NO? UM, WE, WE DON'T HAVE, UM, SPECIFICALLY MURDERS, UM, STABBINGS OR ARE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT JUST GENERALLY INCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN OR WHAT, WHAT, WHAT SORT OF FRAME? WELL, I MEAN, A LOT OF, A LOT OF BUSES AREN'T SHARED RIDES EITHER FROM MY VISIBILITY. SO WHEN YOU HAVE A SHARED RIDE, HAVE YOU EVER HAD ONE OF THE RIDERS ATTACK ANOTHER RIDER, OR HAVE YOU IS I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I JUST, I HEAR THE NEWS, I WATCH THE NEWS. NO, IT, IT'S, IT'S A TOTALLY FAIR QUESTION. NEVER HEARD THAT ABOUT VI JUST WANNA KNOW IF NO, IT, IT, IT'S A REALLY FAIR QUESTION. I THINK, UM, OBVIOUSLY SAFETY AND SECURITY HAS BECOME A REALLY HOT TOPIC IN PUBLIC TRANSIT ACROSS, UM, NOT ONLY MICRO TRANSIT, BUT BUSES TO YOUR POINT, RAIL, UM, PARATRANSIT VEHICLES EVEN. AND SO, UM, WE HAVE NOT HAD A, UH, AN INCIDENT TO THAT LEVEL ON A VIA VEHICLE. UM, SO I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION DIRECTLY. NO. UM, ARE THERE CONFLICTS BETWEEN PASSENGERS THERE, THERE, THERE ARE JUST LIKE, THERE ARE ON THE BUS AT TIMES. AND, UM, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT AARON, UH, TO HIS POINT OF, WE'VE TRAINED OUR, OUR, OUR TEAM AND OUR DRIVERS VERY, UM, HEAVILY ON HOW TO DEESCALATE. AND IF WE CAN'T DEESCALATE REALLY MOVING THE VEHICLE OVER TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, STOPPING WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE RUNNING IN TERMS OF YOUR NEXT PICKUP AND DROP OFF AND REALLY ADDRESSING IN THE SAFEST WAY POSSIBLE THE INCIDENT THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE VEHICLE. OKAY. I JUST WONDERED IF YOU HAD TO HIT IT. IT'S, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT. SO TO ME, THE, THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE HERE BETWEEN RIDING THE BUS AND DOING WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, DO YOU PICK UP THESE PEOPLE AT THEIR HOME AND TAKE THEM TO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO? OR IS IT THE CLOSEST CORNER, OR DO THEY HAVE TO WALK SOMEWHERE TO WAIT FOR YOU? HOW DO THEY GET PICKED UP AND WHERE DO THEY GET DROPPED OFF? YEAH, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. UM, AND IT'S, I I HATE TO KEEP SAYING POLICY DECISION, BUT SOME OF THAT IS A POLICY DECISION. BUT I WILL SAY FOR THE PARATRANSIT WRITERS IN PARTICULAR, WE WILL PICK THEM UP EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE AND DROP THEM OFF EXACTLY WHERE THEY NEED TO GO. THERE IS NO, YOU KNOW, ASK FOR WALKING TO A SHARED CORNER. UM, WE, UM, IN MANY CASES, WE'LL GO TO THE DOOR, HELP OUR PASSENGERS GET TO THE VEHICLE INTERRA SAFELY IF THEY'RE IN A MOBILITY DEVICE. UM, OUR, OUR TEAM IS TRAINED ON HOW TO SECURE THAT MOBILITY DEVICE DIRECTLY INTO THE VEHICLE. UM, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A HIGH LEVEL SENSITIVITY THAT WE GIVE FOR PARATRANSIT RIDERS, AND, UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY FOR PARATRANSIT RIDERS ALWAYS DOOR TO DOOR. AND SO WE'RE ALWAYS PICKING THEM UP WHERE THEY ARE AND DROPPING THEM OFF WHERE THEY NEED TO GO. SO MICROT TRANSIT, I WENT TO ARLINGTON AND THEY PICKED ME UP AT THE CLOSEST CORNER, RIGHT. AND DROPPED ME OFF EXACTLY WHERE I WANTED TO GO. SO THAT WAS ARLINGTON'S DECISION TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF SERVICE AND ADD, ADDISON WOULD DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT THAT OR MORE OR LESS SERVICE. THAT'S RIGHT. UH, FOR, FOR THE MICRO TRANSIT IN PARTICULAR, UM, WE, WE THINK ABOUT MICRO TRANSIT AGAIN AS PUBLIC TRANSIT. AND JUST LIKE YOU ARE WALKING A SHORT DISTANCE TO A BUS STOP TO GET ON A DART BUS, WE, WE, WE THINK THAT RIDERS GENERALLY CAN MOVE TO A SHARED CORNER NEARBY MAYBE A BLOCK OR TWO TO, TO CATCH A MICRO TRANSIT VEHICLE. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, YOU KNOW, AS YOU THINK ABOUT THESE VEHICLES DYNAMICALLY BEING ROUTED THROUGH ADDISON, UM, THERE'S DEFINITELY STREETS THAT ARE HIGHER SPEED LIMITS. UM, YOU KNOW, VEHICLES CAN MOVE MORE EASILY UP AND DOWN CERTAIN CORRIDORS, AND WE DON'T WANT OUR VEHICLES TO NECESSARILY GET STUCK IN NEIGHBORHOODS OR IN AREAS THAT IT'S, UM, HIGHER TRAFFIC. AND SO THE MORE THAT WE CAN GET PASSENGERS THROUGH THE ALGORITHM TO KIND OF COME TO SHARED LOCATIONS AND BOARD VEHICLES IN A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A FLUID WAY THAT ALLOWS THESE VEHICLES TO STAY ON ROUTE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, IT'S BETTER FOR EFFICIENCY. NOW, WHAT I WILL SAY, UM, SUGAR LAND, FOR EXAMPLE, WE STARTED THAT WAY IN SUGAR LAND WHERE WE HAD THIS CORNER TO CORNER SERVICE, UM, WHICH WE CALL IT CORNER TO CORNER, GOING TO THESE VIRTUAL BUS STOPS. UM, WE STARTED TO NOTICE THAT A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THE WALK DISTANCE WAS A LITTLE LONGER, UM, THAN OTHER WALK DISTANCES, PEOPLE WOULDN'T, UH, PEOPLE WOULD CANCEL THE RIDE, THEY WOULDN'T SHOW UP. AND WE STARTED TO REALIZE, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER, PRETTY HOT IN, IN SUGARLAND, TEXAS. AND SO, UM, ASKING SOMEBODY TO WALK TO A CORNER AND, AND STAND ON A CORNER WHERE IT MAY NOT BE FULLY SHADED, IT'S NOT THE BEST EXPERIENCE FOR CERTAIN RIDERS. AND SO WE ACTUALLY PIVOTED THAT ON THE REQUEST OF, YOU KNOW, BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS AND TALKING TO SUGARLAND AND, AND DECIDED, HEY, LET'S ACTUALLY MAKE ALL OF THIS DOOR TO DOOR. SO NOW THE MICRO TRANSIT THERE AS WELL, IT'S FULLY DOOR TO DOOR JUST LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, UH, LEVEL OF PARATRANSIT SERVICE THEY'RE ON. SO AGAIN, FULLY FLEXIBLE BASED ON THE POLICY DECISION FOR THE CITY. OKAY. THEN I HAVE THE SAME TWO QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED EARLIER FOR CIRCUIT, UH, YOUR COMPANY WOULD NOT PLACE ANY DEBT ON ADDISON, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, THAT'S CORRECT. AND, UM, ARE YOU PLANNING TO TAKE ON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DEBT ANYTIME SOON? I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE COMPANY AS A, AS A FINANCIAL PUBLIC ENTITY, BUT, UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, UM, WE ARE NOT CONSIDERING TAKING ON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. AND I GUESS YOU'RE WELL FUNDED, IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT. I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IF WE MAKE A [02:10:01] DECISION, WE HAVE A, A REPUTABLE COMPANY, AND THEN IF WE WANT TO QUIT, IS THAT JUST NEGOTIATED IN OUR CONTRACT THAT AT THIS TIME WE EITHER RENEW OR WE LEAVE, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT STUCK IN FOR SOME LENGTH OF TIME. ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS HAVE TERMINATION CLAUSES. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. DARREN, WHAT'S THE, UH, TYPICAL TERM, UH, LENGTH OF THE AGREEMENTS THAT CITIES GO WITH? IS IT THREE YEARS, ONE YEAR, FIVE YEARS? WE'VE SEEN A VARIETY. UH, WE, WE, WE'VE SEEN EVERYTHING FROM A ONE YEAR PILOT WHERE A COMMUNITY SAYS, YEAH, HEY, WE'RE JUST GONNA RUN THIS AND SEE HOW IT GOES, AND THEN, THEN DECIDE FROM THERE WHAT WE WANNA DO. AND THEN MAYBE THAT ONE YEAR TURNS INTO A NEXT, UH, YOU KNOW, THREE YEAR AGREEMENT BECAUSE THERE'S CONSISTENT FUNDING AVAILABLE. IT'S CLEARLY WORKING IN THE CITY AND IT GETS INTO A LONGER TERM CONTRACT. UM, WE RECENTLY SIGNED A, A CONTRACT OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH A, WITH A MUNICIPALITY IN MICHIGAN THAT'S A, A SEVEN YEAR CONTRACT. AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE A MUCH LONGER TERM ONE. UM, SO KINDA DEPENDS AGAIN ON, YOU KNOW, FUNDING STREAMS. UH, UH, THE, HOW LONG OF THE, HOW LONG OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A HISTORY OF DATA THAT WE HAVE THAT THIS PROGRAM IS SUCCESSFUL AND IT'S GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD. IT'S THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES. UM, SO I, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION MAYBE AS DEFINITIVELY AS AS, UM, AS, AS WAS ASKED. BUT I THINK ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT ONE TO FIVE YEARS IS GENERALLY WHAT WE SEE. AND, UH, THAT'S A COUNCIL DECISION. YEAH. WHAT WE WANT TO PAY, IT'S COST MORE TO DO SHORTER TERMS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO ABSOLUTELY, COUNCIL DECISION INCLUDES THE, THE AMOUNT OF SHARED RIDES THAT WE WANT, UH, FROM ZERO FROM SINGLE RIDER TO SHARED RIDES. WE CAN DECIDE THAT. WE CAN DECIDE. SO ONE, ONE, LIKE MAYBE CLARIFICATION I'D SAY ON THE SHARED RIDES, UM, WHAT WE'LL WORK WITH YOU ON IS, UM, ASKING YOU ALL THE QUESTION AS A COUNCIL, UM, DO YOU CARE MORE ABOUT EFFICIENCY AND SHARED RIDES MORE OR DO YOU CARE MORE ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY GREAT SERVICE QUALITY? AND SO PEOPLE ARE GETTING PICKED UP AND DROPPED OFF VERY QUICKLY AND, AND WE WILL TARGET THE ALGORITHM THAT WAY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN NECESSARILY TARGET, WE WANT 20% OF SHARED RIDES AND THAT'S, THAT'S OUR, THAT'S, THAT'S IT. UM, THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE GONNA ABSOLUTELY HAVE IN THE SYSTEM. WE WILL TARGET CERTAIN NUMBERS, BUT IT MAY NOT BE, YOU KNOW, HARD CODED BUILT IN THAT WE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO MATTER WHAT GONNA GET 20%. FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU. UM, SO YOU, YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE INTEGRATION BETWEEN, UH, OTHER TRANSIT AGENCIES SPECIFICALLY HERE AT DART, UH, THAT YOU CAN TRACK THE BUSES. YOU'VE GOT THAT INTERFACE AND THE API, ALL OF THAT. THAT'S FANTASTIC. I LOVE TO HEAR THAT THAT'S THE WAY TECHNOLOGY SHOULD BE. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO USE GO PASS FOR THE WHOLE RIDE IN AND OUT, CAN THEY JUST LIVE ON GO PASS? THEY CAN. SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE YOUR APP AT ALL. CORRECT. UH, YOU CAN END TO END KNOW WHERE THE BUSES ARE AND IT'S SEAMLESS. THAT'S RIGHT. SO YOU WOULD GO INTO GO PASS. UM, IF YOU WERE, LET'S SAY IN, UH, FORT WORTH RIGHT NOW IN ONE OF OUR MICRO TRANSIT ZONES, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU WOULD OPEN UP GO PASS. IF YOU WERE JOURNEY PLANNING FROM THE, UH, STARTING POINT WITHIN THE MICRO TRANSIT, UH, ZONE, ONE OF THE OPTIONS YOU WOULD BE PRESENTED WOULD BE, LET'S SAY A MICRO TRANSIT TRIP IN THE END, GO PASS CONNECTING TO A FIXED ROUTE TRIP. AND IF YOU CHOSE TO BOOK THAT TRIP, YOU'D BE ABLE TO TRACK THE VEHICLE DIRECTLY IN GO PASS, PAY FOR THAT RIDE DIRECTLY IN GO PASS, SEE THE CONNECTION, UH, TO A FIXED ROUTE DIRECTLY IN GO PASS AND, AND COMPLETE YOUR JOURNEY. UH, IN GO PASS TODAY, IF SOMEBODY'S TRAVELING ON DART, IT'S ALL AN INTEGRATED SYSTEM FROM GARLAND INTO TO ADDISON 'CAUSE THEY WORK HERE, THEN THEY COULD JUST CONTINUE JUST TO USE GO PASS. CORRECT. YOU'D NEVER HAVE TO EXIT GO PASS. IT'S STILL IN GO PASS. RIGHT. THAT'S, UH, THAT'S GOOD. REALLY GOOD TO KNOW. UM, YOU CAN TAKE CASH. WE CAN TAKE CASH, YES. AN OPTION WE CAN CHOOSE. DO YOU USE THE ID BUZZ ANYWHERE? OH, AARON, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANYWHERE? CURRENTLY WE HAVE A FEW PARTNER. IT'S, IT, WE HAVE A FEW PARTNERS THAT ARE CONSIDERING IT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THEM LIVE ANYWHERE. WE HAVE THE TESLAS, WE HAVE, UM, UM, A HYBRID, OBVIOUSLY MANY VANS IN A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER ELECTRIC VEHICLES, BUT MAYBE NOT THE ID BUZZ JUST YET. YOU'RE OH, THANK YOU. NEXT QUESTION. SORRY, I'M JUST KINDA GOING THROUGH THE QUESTIONS. YEAH. UM, PARATRANSIT VEHICLES, SO ARE THEY DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE FLEET? WE WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING THE APPROACH OF A, WHAT WE CALL A COMMINGLED FLEET. SO ANY ONE OF OUR VEHICLES CAN SERVE EITHER A MICRO TRANSIT RIDE OR A PARATRANSIT RIDE. AND SO IF WE HAVE A HIGH DEMAND IN PARATRANSIT AT A MOMENT, WE CAN HAVE MULTIPLE VEHICLES, UM, YOU KNOW, OPERATING PARATRANSIT, UM, OR, UH, VICE VERSA. THE, THE OTHER INTERESTING THING TOO IS THAT WE COULD HAVE A MICROT TRANSIT RIDER AND A PARATRANSIT RIDER ON THE SAME VEHICLE AT THE SAME TIME. AND SO THIS, THIS OPENS UP THE CAPACITY AND, AND THE ABILITY FOR US TO SERVE TRIPS, WHETHER THEY'RE REALLY LONG DISTANCES OR SHORTER DISTANCES AND ANYTHING IN BETWEEN. SO IF A RIDER HAS A BIKE OR WHEELCHAIR OR STROLLER OR GROCERIES OR PACKAGES OR SUITCASES, LARGE THINGS, WHAT DO THEY DO? YEAH, UM, AGAIN, CITY POLICY DECISION AND A NUMBER OF OUR SERVICES HAVE BIKE RACKS DIRECTLY ON THE VEHICLES. AND SO IF YOU TOLD US THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, A LARGE POPULATION OF ADDISON LIKES TO TRAVEL WITH THEIR BIKES, WE WOULD PUT BIKE RACKS ON THE VEHICLES TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW PASSENGERS. THE, THE OTHER LIKE COOL TECH THING IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE BOOKING A RIDE, YOU WILL TELL THE APP THAT YOU HAVE A BIKE AND NOW THE APP KNOWS THAT THIS SPECIFIC VEHICLE HAS ONE BIKE ON IT AND IT MAY ONLY HAVE CAPACITY FOR ONE MORE BIKE. SO IF A THIRD PERSON REQUESTS WITH A BIKE, THEN WE WON'T ROUTE THAT VEHICLE OVER THERE AND HAVE A PERSON WITH A BIKE NOT BE ABLE TO PUT THEIR BIKE ON. UM, POLICY, DECISION ON GROCERIES, POLICY DECISION ON STROLLERS, YOU WOULD TELL US, UH, WHAT YOU WANT. UM, WE, WE TELL YOU BEST PRACTICES OF COURSE, AND WHAT WE SEE ACROSS CITIES, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S YOUR DECISION ON HOW YOU WANNA HANDLE THINGS LIKE STROLLERS AND, AND GROCERIES. SO THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU SENT US, DOES IT HAVE A MAXIMUM ON USAGE FOR THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES WE HAVE? UM, THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES EIGHT VEHICLES. UM, THESE EIGHT VEHICLES WILL BE, UM, DEPLOYED AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY [02:15:01] AND DIFFERENT VOLUMES, UH, AT DIFFERENT TIMES. AND, UM, WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WE KNOW THAT DEMAND IS NOT GONNA BE CONSISTENT. AND, AND THIS IS THE CASE IN ALL OF OUR MARKETS, THAT IT'S NOT CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE DAY THAT WE NEED ALL EIGHT VEHICLES OUT THERE AT ALL TIMES. AND EARLY PARTS OF THE DAY, MAYBE WE ONLY NEED FOUR, FIVE, AND LATER PARTS OF THE DAY, MAYBE SOMETHING SIMILAR, BUT WE KNOW WHEN THESE PEAKS HAPPEN, TYPICALLY AROUND COMMUTING TIMES. AND SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE FULL FLEET OUT THEN. UM, SO THE, THE OVERALL FLEET WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THE ENTIRE SERVICE. BUT WE PROB WE WANNA BE GOOD STEWARDS OF YOUR BUDGET AND ONLY BE HAVING ONLY HAVE VEHICLES ON THE ROAD WHEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE DEMAND AT THE TIME. OKAY. SO THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE ON THE TABLE WITH US, DOES IT INCLUDE A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RIDES PER MONTH? IT'S NOT BASED ON RIDES PER MONTH, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I CAN DISCUSS THE FINANCIAL PROPOSAL. SO, UM, PLEASE STOP ME IF I NEED TO. IF WE, WE THINK ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF REVENUE HOURS AND SO THE NUMBER OF HOURS THAT VEHICLES ARE AVAILABLE, UM, TO PICK UP AND DROP OFF PASSENGERS. SO NO MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF TRIPS. IT'S REALLY, UM, KIND OF SUPPORTED BY THE, UH, THE NUMBER OF REVENUE HOURS. FINE, OF COURSE. THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, I, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THE PROPOSAL. IT LOOKS LIKE SIX, SIX VANS IS WHAT YOU'RE QUOTING, IS IT SIX OR EIGHT? 'CAUSE IT MAKES, IT'S EIGHT TOTAL VEHICLES IN THE FLEET. WE'VE MODELED SIX PEAK VEHICLES AS OUR STANDARD ASSUMPTION, BUT THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL TWO SPARE VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL. OKAY. SO, SO WE COULD HAVE EIGHT VEHICLES GOING AT THE SAME TIME. YES. I THINK REALISTICALLY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE DATA THAT WE'RE OPERATING FROM, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN PROVIDED BY DART OUR ASSUMPTION RIGHT NOW, BASED ON THE SCALE OF THE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES, WE THINK THAT REALISTICALLY A SIX VEHICLE FLEET IS GOING TO BE QUITE SUFFICIENT, BUT WE HAVE BUFFERED IN AN ADDITIONAL CAPACITY OF TWO MORE SPARE VEHICLES. OKAY, GREAT. AND WHERE, WHERE WOULD THESE VEHICLES, UH, UH, WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN SERVICE, WHERE WOULD THEY, WHERE WOULD THEY END UP BEING FOR MAINTENANCE AND SO FORTH? YEAH, JUST LIKE WE HAVE ACROSS THE, THE KIND OF THE NORTH TEXAS DFW REGION, WE WOULD IDENTIFY A, A SPACE THAT'S EITHER WITHIN ADDISON OR VERY CLOSE BY TO ELIMINATE THE AMOUNT OF DEADHEAD, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE VEHICLES KIND OF MOVING INTO THE ZONE READY FOR SERVICE. SO WE WOULD IDENTIFY A, A SPACE FOR THE, THE VEHICLES TO BE STORED. OKAY. AND ON THESE MOBILITY PERFORMANCE REPORTS, I DON'T, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LINK TO ONE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS AND THAT WAS, UH, WHAT CITY OF JERSEY CITY. AND SO, UM, YOU HAD TO CLICK ON THE LINK AND GO TO THAT. THOSE WERE VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE. UM, MUCH LIKE OUR ANNUAL PD AND ANNUAL FIRE DEPARTMENT REPORTS. BUT YOU'RE DOING THESE QUARTERLY AND MONTHLY IN SOME CASES? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I'M TOWNS ARE PUTTING THESE, UH, ON THEIR WEBSITE FOR, FOR ANYBODY TO SEE. RIGHT. UM, THAT, THAT IS AMAZING WHEN YOU DIG DOWN TO THE JERSEY CITY REPORT, SO I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT WITH ME. CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE SEVEN? UH SEVEN, THIS ONE. OKAY. AND YOU'VE GOT THESE INCREASE IN MONTHLY RIDERS, ARI RIDERSHIP GROWTH SINCE LAUNCH AND SO FORTH. SO IN ARLINGTON, I, AND I'VE BEEN ON, I HAVEN'T BEEN TO FORT WORTH, BUT I'VE BEEN TO ARLINGTON IN DENTON. THAT WAS VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE. UM, AND I WOULD SAY, UH, FROM ALL THE TRIPS I TOOK IN THOSE TWO CITIES, IT WAS, IT WAS POINT TO POINT. IT WASN'T, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WALK ANYWHERE, UM, WHICH WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE. UM, AND I WOULD JUST, I'M JUST GONNA ADD, PEOPLE DON'T WANNA WALK YEAH. TO THE BUS STOP OR AROUND THE CORNER AND SO FORTH. SO, SO MY HOPE IS, UM, IF WE DO CHOOSE THIS SERVICE, THAT'S WHERE WE'LL LAND BECAUSE, UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO SOLVE THE FIRST MILE, LAST MILE PROBLEM, AND YOUR PRODUCT DOES THAT, UH, FROM MY EXPERIENCE. UM, BUT YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT ARLINGTON AND YOU'VE GOT RIDERSHIP GROWTH SINCE LAUNCH 10 TIMES. WHEN WAS THE LAUNCH, LIKE ROUGHLY? WHEN WAS THAT LAUNCH? UM, I'M THE YEAR OF THE LAUNCH. DO YOU WANT, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS? YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S, PLEASE. UH, 2017 WAS THE LAUNCH OF THAT SERVICE. IT ACTUALLY STARTED, STARTED AS A PORTION OF THE CITY OF ARLINGTON. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A PILOT ZONE. YEAH. AND THEN THAT ZONE IS EXPANDED MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE YEARS. OH, IT'S, IT'S LIKE, IT'S ALMOST RIDERSHIP GROWTH IS ALMOST LIKE DOUBLING ANNUALLY ALMOST. MM-HMM . OKAY. WHAT I WILL SAY IT'S, UH, INITIALLY, ESPECIALLY DURING THE GROWTH PHASE FROM THE PILOT, UM, TO, UM, I WOULD SAY STEADY STATE, WHICH HAPPENED MAYBE A COUPLE YEARS LATER, UM, YES, THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT RIDERSHIP GROWTH AS PEOPLE GOT USED TO THE SERVICE AND WERE WRITING IT AND WE WE'RE TELLING THEIR FRIENDS ABOUT IT. UM, AT SOME POINT THOUGH, ALL THESE SERVICES MATURE AND WE, WE GET TO A POINT WHERE THERE'S, UM, THERE'S PRETTY KNOWN AND CONSISTENT RIDERSHIP ACROSS NOT ONLY MONTHS AND YEARS, BUT ALSO DAY BY DAY. AND WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE RIDING ON A DAILY BASIS, AND WE CAN KIND OF, UH, PLAN FOR THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT WE NEED ACROSS THOSE DAYS. AND SO THAT, THAT'S IMPRESSIVE. OKAY. SO DE DENTON COUNTY, DCTA, YOU'VE GOT 360% INCREASE IN MONTHLY RIDERS AND LIKE, WHAT TIME PERIOD IS THAT? HOW ABOUT MM-HMM. YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT SERVICE LAUNCHED IN 2021 AND WAS, UM, THEY DID SOME REPLACEMENT OF SOME FIXED ROUTE THERE, UM, PARTICULARLY IN THAT BOTTOM ZONE IN THE, IN THE LOS FAHAN VILLAGE AREA. UM, AND SO IT, THE 360 IS A COMPARISON TO WHAT THE PREVIOUS TRANSIT OPTIONS [02:20:01] THEY HAD IN DENTON COUNTY. OKAY. UM, AND WHEN I LOOK AT, AND THESE ARE, THERE'S NEARBY, NEARBY CITIES, AND I LOVE THE FACT YOU'VE GOT THE POPULATIONS, UH, FOR, AT LEAST FOR ARLINGTON, THEN YOU'VE GOT THE FLEET. AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE SIZE OF THESE, THESE AREAS AND YOUR FLEET, AND I THINK ABOUT OUR NEEDS, I JUST, YOU KNOW, AND THEN I, AND THEN I THINK ABOUT, UH, PICKUP TIME, AVERAGE PICKUP TIME, UM, I, I JUST SEE US BEING ABLE TO DO SOME THINGS THAT, THAT OTHER CITIES JUST, JUST CAN'T DO. I MEAN, WE'RE A SMALL CITY AND THEN YOU SUBTRACT THE AIRPORT. UM, SO MY HOPE IS THAT IF WE GO WITH THIS SERVICE, IT'LL BE QUICK, QUICK PICKUP TIMES BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANNA WAIT, THEY DON'T WANNA WALK. SO, UM, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING HERE AND I APPRECIATE THE, THE BID. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR HAVING US. YEAH. QUICK QUESTION I HAD ASKED, UH, SIR, I'LL ASK YOU AS WELL. ARE YOUR DRIVERS W2 OR 10 99 DRIVERS? YEAH, UH, ACROSS THE, THE NORTH TEXAS MARKET, WE HAVE A MIX. AND SO, UM, IT, IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT OUR PARTNER PREFERENCE IS. AND, UM, WE, WE SEE VALUE IN BOTH. UH, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE, UM, IN OUR PROPOSAL AS, AS YOU WILL SEE IN THE PRICE PROPOSAL, UM, WE ARE, WE'RE FAIRLY AGNOSTIC. UM, WE, WE WILL COME TO YOU AND WE WILL, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH YOU ALL TO DETERMINE WHAT THE RIGHT MODEL IS HERE FOR ADDISON. AND, AND WE CAN BE FLEXIBLE. THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTION. SO, UH, WHAT IS DC T'S? UH, EMPLOYMENT MODEL? UH, CONFIRM, GO. YEAH. YEAH. THEY USE AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR MODEL IN THAT SERVICE. IN THIS SERVICE. OKAY. BUT AGAIN, AS MENTIONED, IT'S A, WE, WE OFF, WE HAVE BOTH THE, THE THREE METRO HAS A W2 DRIVER WHERE DCTA AND UH, THAT GUY WAS W2, I THOUGHT. OKAY. UM, JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS. I THINK I PROBABLY MISSED IT IN THE PRESENTATION. WHAT ARE YOUR DAYS AND HOURS OF OPERATION DO YOU WANNA HAVE? YEAH, SO WE WOULD BE MIRRORING THE EXACT SAME DAYS AND HOURS AS DART CURRENTLY OPERATES. SO MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, UH, 5:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT. OKAY. UH, THE OTHER QUESTION, HOW DOES A RIDE GET FROM DFW AIRPORT TO ADDISON? UH, WE WOULD PROBABLY RELY ON GO PASS, UM, AT THE MOMENT. UM, SO ONE OF THE, THE, THE WAY THAT WE'VE SORT OF THOUGHT ABOUT THE SERVICE DESIGN AT THE MOMENT IS HAVING THE CITYWIDE ZONE AND THEN HAVING THE RALLY POINTS IS, I THINK THEY WERE DEFINED IN THE RFP PROCESS. SO HAVING A FEW DIFFERENT CONNECTION POINTS TO DART. I DON'T THINK ONE OF THOSE CONNECTION POINTS, AT LEAST THAT WE'VE PROPOSED IS AT THE DFW AIRPORT, BUT IF THE CITY WAS INTERESTED IN CREATING ONE OF THOSE CONNECTION POINTS, WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO EXPLORE THAT. SO THEY WOULD TAKE THE TRAIN TO DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON? I, I ASSUME, YEAH, THAT WAS ONE OF OUR RALLY POINTS. YEAH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE RALLY POINTS. WE, THAT WAS THE RALLY POINT THAT WE INCLUDED. AGAIN, I KNOW THAT IT'S A FLUID DISCUSSION ON WHAT THE FINAL RALLY POINT CONSIDERATION WILL ULTIMATELY BE, BUT WE TRIED TO PICK, YOU KNOW, CARROLLTON IS A BALANCE WHERE FROM A GEOGRAPHIC SPEND PERSPECTIVE, YES, IT'S A LITTLE BIT FAR OUTSIDE OF ADDISON'S BOUNDARIES. HOWEVER, IT HAS QUITE A BIT OF MERIT FROM A REGIONAL HUB STANDPOINT, MULTIPLE RAIL LINES. SO WE PUT THAT AS AN OPTION TO KIND OF COVER THE SCENARIO WHERE WE ARE FOCUSED ON FACILITATING DFW TO ADDISON, UM, TRIPS. BUT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY SCOPE THAT OUT WITH YOU GUYS IF YOU THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DEPRIORITIZE OR PLACE MORE EMPHASIS ON. OKAY. JUST TRYING TO SEE, UNDERSTAND HOW THAT, HOW THAT, HOW THAT WORKS. I GUESS SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO LIKELY DRIVE TO DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON OR TAKE A BUS OR SOMETHING TO GET TO DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON. SO THE WAY THAT WE HAD ENVISIONED IT IN THIS HYPOTHETICAL TALKING ABOUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO THE AIRPORT, I GUESS. CORRECT. SO IF THEY WERE STARTING IN ADDISON TO GO TO THE AIRPORT, WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS THEY WOULD FIRST START ON A ADDISON ON DEMAND RIDE POWERED BY VIA, THAT WOULD TAKE THEM TO CARROLLTON STATE, DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON, THEN THEY WOULD TRANSFER TO THE LIGHT RAIL, THEN THEY WOULD, SO I'LL GET THAT. SO I, OKAY. THE, THE SCENARIO I'M PLAYING OUT IN MY HEAD, SO SAY SOMEBODY LIVES IN, UM, A NON-MEMBER CITY AND THEY WANT TO COME TO ADDISON, THEY WANNA TAKE THE SILVER LINE TO, TO, THEY WANT, THEY WANT, THEY WANT, THEY WANTED TO COME TO ADDISON TO PARK AT THE, AT THE TRANSIT CENTER, TAKE THE TRAIN AND GO. THEY CAN'T DO THAT. UM, ALRIGHT. I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO WORK IT ALL OUTTA MY HEAD. IT'S, IT SEEMS A LITTLE, LITTLE COMPLEX AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT JUST ADDS DELAY TO THAT TRIP. UM, RIGHT, BECAUSE THE TIMING CAN BE CHALLENGING. I'M, I ASSUME YEAH, I, I THINK THE, THE TIMING COULD BE CHALLENGING. UM, BUT I, I THINK AGAIN, KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE INTEGRATION WITH GO PASS FOR EXAMPLE, AND OUR ABILITY TO PULL IN REAL-TIME TRACKING FOR THE BUSES AND FOR THE TRAINS, UM, WE'LL TAKE THAT COMPLEXITY AND MAKE IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE. AND THEN THERE, THERE ARE GONNA BE TRANSFERS THERE NO MATTER WHAT HERE. I THINK IF THE, THE ELECTION MOVES FORWARD AND THERE IS NO DAR SERVICE HERE, THERE WILL HAVE TO BE SOME CONNECTIONS TO ACCESS THE BROADER SYSTEM, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT THROUGH THE TECHNOLOGY, THAT THAT TRANSIT AND THAT TRANSFER BECOMES A LITTLE BIT EASIER. MM-HMM . OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY. AND, UH, CAN WE WRAP UP? I HAVE SOME GENERAL QUESTIONS AND NOT FOR THE APPLICANT. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANKS FOR TAKING OUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US AND APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [02:25:03] SO I DIDN'T WANNA START OFF WITH THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I, I, I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, DELAY THE PRESENTATIONS, BUT WHAT ARE WE REALLY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE? UM, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TRYING TO REPLACE DART IF WE DECIDE TO VOTE, UM, TO EXIT. SO WHAT I MEAN BY THAT QUESTION IS, ARE WE JUST TRYING TO GET PEOPLE INTO THE TOWN? ARE WE TRYING TO GET OUR CITIZENS OUT OF THE TOWN? UM, I UNDERSTAND RALLY POINTS, I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT IT, BUT ARE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THESE SIX OR EIGHT VEHICLES DRIVING AROUND OUR TOWN? I MEAN, ARE, ARE WE OFFERING THAT RIDE TO ANY ADDISON RESIDENT? SO IF I WANT TO GO TO VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, CAN I NOW USE THIS SERVICE? YEAH. AND SO THAT'S PART OF WHY IT HAS TO BE SCALABLE BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM BOTH COMPANIES AND EVERYBODY WE'VE TALKED TO IS ONCE YOU HAVE, BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE IS A CIRCULATOR BASICALLY WITHIN ADDISON NATIVE SIX OR EIGHT VEHICLES. YES. AND SO WHAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING IS ACTUALLY SEEING PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T USE DART BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANNA GET ON A DART BUS TO GO, YOU KNOW, FROM LET'S SAY DOWN HERE TO VOP WILL NOW START USING THIS MICRO TRANSIT TO DO IT. AND SO WE COULD SEE, WHICH IS WHY, UM, THE CONTRACT IS STRUCTURED FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN A YEAR, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET SOME REALLY GOOD DATA TO SEE WHAT THOSE RIDES ARE GONNA BE. SO WE ACTUALLY COULD HAVE HIGHER USAGE THAN YEAH. EVEN WHAT WE HAD ON DART BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL USE IT WITHIN THE TOWN. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION. AND THEN, AND THEN IT GETS TO, IF PEOPLE ARE USING THIS AS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OTHER THAN UBER OR LYFT, HOW MANY RIDES WOULD IT ACTUALLY BE? AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT COST END UP TO THE TOWN? UM, AND THEN WE, WE HAVEN'T REALLY TOUCHED ON THIS, WHAT, WHAT IS OUR GOAL AS FAR AS PRICING GOES? I MEAN, ARE WE, ARE WE, ARE WE GOING TO CHARGE THE, TRY TO RECOUP THE FULL COST OF ALL OF THIS? OR IS THIS JUST SOME SORT OF SUPPLEMENTAL INCOME? WE'RE HOPING TO RECOUP. YEAH. AND THAT'S COMPLETELY A COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, DECISION. UM, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DO WE KEEP THE PRICE OBVIOUSLY NO MORE THAN WHAT YOU WOULD PAY ON DART. UM, IT COULD BE LESS, IT COULD BE FREE. UM, I KNOW, AND I CAN'T, I DIDN'T KEEP UP WITH IT AFTER PLANO DECIDED TO RESCIND THEIR REELECTION. AT ONE POINT, I THINK PLANO WAS TALKING ABOUT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO CHARGE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DECIDED TO CHARGE? UM, SO I MEAN, SO THERE'S OPTIONS AS FAR AS IT'S A COUNCIL DECISION. HOW MUCH DO WE WANT TO RECOUP? I DO. THAT'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION NEED TO HAVE. OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. CAN WE TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL LIABILITY THAT WE MIGHT BE SEEING? UH, I'M, I'M ENVISIONING IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT, IF THERE'S A SEXUAL ASSAULT, ARE WE SUDDENLY MORE ON THE HOOK THAN WE WERE WITH DART BEFORE? WHAT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CONTRACT SAYS. UM, THERE SHOULD BE INDEMNITY PROVISION I WOULD ANTICIPATE. SO IT JUST REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT ARE THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT. BUT AS FAR AS TAKING ON MORE LIABILITY, AGAIN, I WOULD USE THE INDEMNITY CLAUSE. BUT DART IS, I MEAN, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS ON DART, NOT THE CITY. SO YEAH, WE COULD BE FACING MORE LIABILITY, BUT AGAIN, WE COULD HEDGE OUR BETS WITH A GOOD INDEMNITY CLAUSE. SO WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS ON DART, BUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS INSIDE ONE OF THESE VEHICLES, WE MIGHT POSSIBLY, BUT AGAIN, IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT DOES THE CONTRACT SAY. OKAY. AND THEN ASHLEY, JUST FOR YOUR SAKE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FINANCIALS ON BOTH COMPANIES. I WANNA SEE HOW, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THE STRENGTH OF THEM, INCOME STATEMENT AND BALANCE SHEET. UM, AND THEN KNOW IF THERE'S ANY ACTIVE LAWSUITS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT. UM, AND THEN I, I'D LOVE TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR THIS. UH, IT'S A BIG NUMBER AND IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PAY FOR DART FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS, THAT'S A SERIOUS CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE. UH, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT WHERE THOSE FUNDS ARE GONNA COME FROM? YEAH, WE HAVE. WE HAVE. AND STEVEN CAN COME UP AND TALK TO OUR SPECIFIC PLAN, BUT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE THAT WE WOULD PAY FOR IT THROUGH. BUT STEVEN, IF YOU WANNA COME GIVE A MORE DETAIL, OBVIOUSLY AT A HIGH LEVEL, NO SPECIFIC NUMBERS. YEAH. AND CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT IN THIS SESSION? WE CAN TALK, WE CAN TALK A VERY CONCEPTUAL CONVERSATION OF WHERE WE WOULD DO IT, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA TALK ANY NUMBERS. OKAY, GREAT. YEAH. SO, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE. WHAT I HAD LOOKED AT IS OUR SELF-FUNDED STREET, SELF-FUNDED, UH, FUND. UM, WHICH SHOULD BE ABLE TO ABSORB THIS FOR THREE YEARS, UM, UNTIL THAT DART, UH, OBLIGATION WOULD BE REPAID. ALRIGHT. I'M GLAD YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. STEVEN. DOESN'T SURPRISE ME THOUGH. THANK YOU. YES, . AND THEN JUST TWO COMMENTS. UM, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE SMART TO TRY TO DO SOME SORT OF OUTREACH TO MAKE [02:30:01] SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE BUILDING REALLY WORKS. EVEN IF WE TRY TO DO THAT ELECTRONICALLY, MAYBE WE CAN SOMEHOW EFFICIENTLY CAPTURE SOME INFORMATION AND THEN ALSO ALL THESE RALLY POINTS. I'D LOVE TO KNOW THE SHAPE OF THOSE BUS STOPS AND, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE'S WEATHER, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND, UM, IF THEY'RE NOT UP TO ADDISON SPEED OR UM, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE MAYBE WE SHOULD TALK TO DART AND SEE IF THEY COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, IF THAT'S EVEN AN OPTION. OKAY. OR, WELL, CHRIS JUST SAID THREE AND A HALF YEARS. I THOUGHT IT WAS 2.88 YEARS. SO BEFORE YOU SAT DOWN, I WAS GONNA ASK HOW LONG DO IS IT GONNA TAKE US TO PAY OFF THE ART? SO WE'RE, I MEAN, WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL GUESSING. OUR MOST RECENT GUESS WAS 2.88, BUT WE DON'T KNOW CHANGE. WE'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA LAST QUESTION 'CAUSE I HADN'T HEARD THREE AND A HALF. NO NEW INFORMATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO JUST CLARIFY ALSO, I ASKED THE QUESTION BACK ON DECEMBER 2ND HOW WE WOULD PAY FOR THIS. AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME DETAIL IN THERE AS FAR AS THE SHORT TERM AND THE LONG TERM. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT KIND OF GET MORE FLESHED OUT SO THAT WE'RE UH, UH, SURE OF THAT. I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK IT DID. IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR, BUT IT'S GOOD FOR, AS A REMINDER FOR EVERYBODY IF THE CONTRACT MOVES FORWARD, WE'LL CERTAINLY SHOW WHERE WE'RE PAYING FOR IT FROM. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND, UH, WITH THAT, UH, THAT SHOULD WRAP UP THIS MM-HMM . WORK SESSION ITEM. THANK YOU ASHLEY. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS. APPRECIATE THAT. AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, SIX B AND SIX C OF OUR WORK SESSION, WE'RE GONNA MOVE THOSE TO THE END OF THE MEETING. SO AT THIS TIME, WE NEED TO GO BACK INTO CLOSED SESSION, UH, FOR COUNSEL TO CONTINUE DISCUSSING THE, UH, DETAILS OF THE FINANCIAL SIDE, EVERYTH AND SO FORTH. SO I'M GONNA READ THAT IN, UM, PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 0.071, SECTION TWO AND 5 5 1 0.087 TO DISCUSS THE EVALUATION OF PROPOSALS RECEIVED IN RESPONSE TO THE TOWN'S REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS RFP NUMBER TWO SIX DASH 114 FOR MOBILITY AND TRANSIT SERVICES, INCLUDING THE REVIEW OF SPECIFIC FINANCIAL TERMS AND NEGOTIATIONS WITH ONE OR MORE VENDORS. IT IS 7 47. WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THIS TIME. , NO, LET'S NOT GET CRAZY. OKAY. IT IS EIGHT 20. WE ARE COMING BACK INTO OPEN SESSION FROM CLOSED SESSION AND THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN FROM THE CLOSED SESSION. AND, UH, AT THIS TIME AT EIGHT 20, WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS AND THEN WE'LL RECONVENE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS FOR THE REST OF OUR REGULAR MEETING. WE GET BACK TO THE BOARD. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? [ COUNCIL MEETING The Addison City Council will convene for a Council Meeting beginning at 7:00 PM in the Town Hall Council Chambers.] ALRIGHT EVERYBODY, GOOD EVENING. IT IS 8 29. WE WILL, UH, RECONVENE THE COUNCIL INTO OUR REGULAR MEETING. UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. SORRY, WE'RE RUNNING, UH, CONSIDERABLY LATE. WE HAD, UH, SOME WORK SESSION ITEMS WE ABSOLUTELY HAD TO GET THROUGH. AND SO WE WILL START AS ALWAYS WITH THE PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS. IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE. I PLEDGE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG PLED ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVISIBLE. ALRIGHT, GOING [2. Proclamations / Presentations] RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS TWO WAYS. CITY MANAGERS ANNOUNCEMENTS AND TWO B EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION. DAVID GAINES. WELL, I HAVE, I HAVE TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT. AND THEY'RE BOTH, UM, ABOUT FOLKS WHO'VE HAD A LONG TIME COMMITTED TO ADDISON THAT ARE, ARE DEPARTING US. UM, SO I WILL BEGIN WITH OUR FIRST ONE ABOUT, OH, UH, CHIEF JONES, YOU MAY HAVE READ IN LAST FRIDAY'S NEWSLETTER THAT FIRE CHIEF DAVID JONES HAS ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT FROM THE TOWN OF ADDISON. CHIEF JONES HAS DEVOTED AN INCREDIBLE 31 YEARS TO THE FIRE SERVICE, INCLUDING 28 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON. THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER, HE HAS EXEMPLIFIED LEADERSHIP INTEGRITY AND A DEEP COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY. HIS GUIDANCE, MENTORSHIP, AND POSITIVE IMPACT HAVE TOUCHED COUNTLESS LIVES, LEAVING A LEGACY THAT WILL BE FELT FOR YEARS TO COME. WE INVITE THE COMMUNITY TO JOIN US TO CEL IN CELEBRATING CHIEF JONES' REMARKABLE CAREER AT A RETIREMENT CEREMONY ON MARCH 26TH FROM 10:30 AM TO 12:30 PM AT GALAXY FBO. WE HOPE YOU'LL COME TO, TO HONOR HIS, THIS, HIS EXTRAORDINARY SERVICE AND WISH HIM EVERY HAPPINESS IN THE NEXT CHAPTER OF LIFE. THANK YOU, CHIEF. IN ADDITION, AFTER NEARLY NINE YEARS, OFER WITH SERVICE TO THE TOWN PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR JAN TIDWELL HAS ANNOUNCED SHE WILL BE LEAVING THE TOWN OF ADDISON. SINCE [02:35:01] JOINING THE ORGANIZATION IN 2017 AS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, JANA HAS PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN SHAPING ADDISON'S PARK AND PARKS AND TRAIL SYSTEM, LEAVING A LEGACY THAT RESIDENTS AND VISITORS WILL ENJOY FOR YEARS TO COME. THANK YOU TO JANA FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND MANY CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, JANA. THOSE ARE THE ONLY ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT. AND FOR OUR EMPLOYEE SPOTLIGHT, I'LL ASK CHIEF JONES TO COME UP. THERE WE GO. MAYOR COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING. UH, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU TONIGHT. SARAH CORSON. SHE'S OUR FIRE ADMINISTRATIVE COORDINATOR, UH, WHO JOINED THE TOWN OF ADDISON ON FEBRUARY 9TH. ORIGINALLY FROM ARLINGTON, TEXAS. SHE GRADUATED FROM JAMES BOWIE HIGH SCHOOL BEFORE CONTINUING HER EDUCATION AT STEPHEN F. AUSTIN STATE UNIVERSITY IN NADOS, TEXAS, WHERE SHE EARNED HER BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN SOCIOLOGY. DURING HER TIME IN COLLEGE, SHE COMPLETED A MAJOR ALONG WITH THREE MINORS, WHILE BALANCING TWO JOBS, PARTICIPATING IN STUDENT LED NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND VOLUNTEERING AT AN EQUINE THERAPY RANCH THROUGH STRONG TIME MANAGEMENT AND DEDICATION. SHE GRADUATED A SEMESTER EARLY AS SUMMA C*M LAUDE, WHICH AN THAT'S AN ACCOMPLISHMENT SHE'S VERY PROUD OF. OUTSIDE OF WORK, SHE ENJOYS WATCHING SOCCER AND IS CURRENTLY TRAINING FOR HER FIRST MARATHON THIS FALL. ALTHOUGH SHE HAS NOT REACHED THE FINISH LINE YET. SHE'S PROUD OF THE PROGRESS THAT SHE'S MADE. JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, SHE COULD NOT RUN A QUARTER MILE WITHOUT STOPPING. NOW HER LONG RUNS ARE AT LEAST SEVEN MILES. SHE ALSO ENJOYS CONTINUALLY LEARNING NEW THINGS, WHETHER THAT MEANS PICKING UP A NEW SKILL, EXPLORING NEW SOFTWARE, OR DIVING INTO A GOOD BOOK. HER CURIOSITY AND COMMITMENT TO GROW OR QUALITIES SHE BRINGS WITH HER BOTH PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY. WHEN ASKED WHAT DREW TO ADDISON, SHE SHARED THAT FROM DAY ONE SHE WAS STRUCK BY HOW WELCOMING AND SUPPORTIVE EVERYBODY WAS. IT IMMEDIATELY FELT MORE LIKE A FAMILY THAN JUST A GROUP OF COWORKERS. AND SHE KNEW IT WAS A PLACE WHERE SHE COULD SEE HERSELF GROWING LONG TERM. TO HER. THE ADDISON WAY MEANS LEADING WITH THE SERVANT'S HEART, BY SUPPORTING RESIDENTS, STAFF, AND NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, AND ALWAYS WORKING TO FIND SOLUTIONS THAT HELP MAKE ADDISON A PLACE WE'RE ALL PROUD TO WORK, PLAY, AND LIVE. PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING HER TO THE ADDISON TEAM. WELCOME. DID IT DO? THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANKS. THANK YOU CHIEF SARAH. THANK YOU AND WELCOME TO ADDISON. GLAD YOU'RE HERE. ALRIGHT, [3. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.] MOVING INTO ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT. CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA. COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THIS SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS. CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW. THE COUNCIL IS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. I DO HAVE ONE PUBLIC APPEARANCE CARD, AND SO I WILL CALL TRISH STEWART AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. TRISH STEWART, UH, 1 5 7 5 5 ALT. UM, MR. MAYOR, MR. CITY MANAGER COUNCIL. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANNA SAY WOW, LIKE, IF, IF EVERYBODY MISSED THE WORK SESSION, WATCH THAT. THAT WAS, THAT WAS REALLY GREAT. A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT, UM, I, I WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE TOWN HALL THAT WE RECENTLY HAD. UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT CROSSED MY MIND DURING THAT TOWN HALL, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STRUCK ME THAT PROBABLY PEOPLE DIDN'T PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO WAS WHEN ONE OF OUR CITIZENS THANKED YOU FOR THE VETERAN'S DAY CELEBRATION. AND IT REALLY HURT MY HEART THAT IT WAS SO RARE THAT IT HAD TO BE RECOGNIZED. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK THAT GOING FORWARD, THAT IF WE DO ANY KIND OF, UM, ART PROJECT OR INSTALLATION, THAT WE LOOK TO DEDICATE IT TO THE WOMEN AND THE MEN WHO HAVE SERVED OUR COUNTRY AND DEFEND OUR FREEDOM. AND SOMEWHERE WHERE WE COULD GO TO PAY RESPECTS DURING IMPORTANT HOLIDAYS. 'CAUSE THIS MORNING THE PENTAGON HAD A DEBRIEFING THAT TALKED ABOUT THE YELLOW SHIRTS. AND THESE YELLOW SHIRTS ARE YOUNG SERVICE MEMBERS WHO HAVE A VERY DANGEROUS JOB ON AIRCRAFT CARRIERS. SO WHEN WE PAUSE AT THE START OF MEETINGS TO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO OUR FLAG, IT'S OUT OF RESPECT FOR THOSE SACRIFICES. IT'S NOT ABOUT, UM, ANYTHING ELSE. THESE YELLOW SHIRTS AND OTHER SERVICE MEMBERS WHO ACCEPT EACH TIME THEY'RE DEPLOYED, THAT THEY MAY NOT COME HOME BECAUSE THEY'RE PROTECTING OUR FREEDOM, SUCH AS THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH OR THE FREEDOM TO BE ACTIVISTS FOR THE CAUSES THAT WE FIND IMPORTANT. UM, THAT JUST TELLS YOU HOW GREAT OUR COUNTRY IS, THAT WE CAN LIVE ALL WITH DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND, AND DIFFERENT FEELINGS ABOUT THINGS AND STILL COME TOGETHER IN ONE TOWN HALL. SO [02:40:01] EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE MAY NOT AGREE WITH OUR GOVERNMENT OR OUR COUNCIL OR OUR STAFF, WE SHOULD STILL HAVE RESPECT FOR, ESPECIALLY FOR THE PEOPLE ON THE DIOCESE WHO HAVE SPENT MANY, MANY DEDICATED HOURS. AND I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE AND THANKS FOR ALWAYS DOING THE BEST FOR US FOR ADDISON, BECAUSE THAT'S WHO YOU'RE HERE TO REPRESENT. AND I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE MOST DECORATED SERVICE MEMBERS, OH MAN, I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME. MR. OTTI MUR MURPHY, A NATIVE-BORN TEXAS SON, A SCRAWNY LITTLE GUY THAT HAD SUCH PASSION FOR OUR COUNTRY THAT HE HAD 33 AWARDS AND DECORATIONS FOR, UH, FOR HIS VALOR AND HIS, HIS BRAVERY. HE WAS ALSO AN ADDISON PROPERTY OWNER. UH, THAT WAS DEBBIE'S RESTAURANT. I, I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO, UM, TO LOOK AT ADI MURPHY'S EXAMPLE OF, OF, UH, BRAVERY. AND I WANTED TO THANK OUR COUNCIL, OUR FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OUR CITY MANAGER FOR BEING BRAVE DURING A VERY DIFFICULT TIME RIGHT NOW. AND ADI MURPHY HAD A QUOTE, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT BRAVERY REALLY IS. BRAVERY IS JUST DETERMINATION TO DO A JOB THAT YOU KNOW HAS TO BE DONE. AND SO I'D JUST LIKE TO TAKE TIME TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE HOURS OF DEDICATION THAT YOU HAVE, UH, GIVEN TO OUR TOWN AND TO OUR CITIZENS FOR FINDING SOLUTIONS. SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT MY GLASSES BECAUSE I CAN'T READ SOME OF THIS, BUT THANK YOU. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, TRISH. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THAT PUBLIC COMMENT ITEM [4. Consent Agenda. All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.] AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT TONIGHT INCLUDES ITEMS FOUR A THROUGH FOUR D. IS THERE A MOTION? MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE FOUR A AND SECOND. THANK YOU MARLON AND DAN FOR THE SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED. ALRIGHT, ITEM FOUR C AND FOUR D, UM, UH, FOUR, NO, SORRY, [a. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving an agreement with McCall Studios to fabricate public art titled "Where Leaves Listen" in an amount not to exceed $100,000; authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement; and provide an effective date.] [b. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving an agreement with McCall Studios to fabricate public art titled "Whispers of the Wind" in an amount not to exceed $50,000; authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement; and provide an effective date. ] FIVE, SORRY, FIVE A AND FIVE B. UH, WE'LL GO INTO RIGHT NOW AND I'M GONNA READ BOTH OF THESE ITEMS BECAUSE THE PRESENTATION IS ONE PRESENTATION FOR BOTH ITEMS. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ BOTH ITEMS HERE. SO FIVE A IS PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH MCCALL STUDIOS TO FABRICATE PUBLIC ART TITLED WHERE LEAVES LISTEN IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $100,000. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT AND PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ITEM FIVE B, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION, APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH MCCALL STUDIOS TO FABRICATE PUBLIC ART TITLED WHISPERS OF THE WIND IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $50,000. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT AND PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE. JANO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JANET TIDWELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. UM, THE ITEM THAT I'M BRINGING BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION IS THE INSTALLATION OF PUBLIC ART IN THE AMLI TREE HOUSE PHASE TWO SECTION OF THE PROJECT. UM, TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT THE ART PIECES THAT I AM PRESENTING THIS EVENING. UM, ON JULY 23RD, COUNSEL APPROVED A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH AMLI RESIDENTIAL, AND IT INCLUDED A COMMITMENT FROM AM LEE TO DONATE $150,000 TO THE TOWN TO SUPPORT THE INSTALLATION OF PUBLIC ART IN THE DEDICATED PUBLIC OPEN SPACE THAT WILL BECOME TOWN PROPERTY STAFF DEVELOPED A MULTI-STEP ARTIST SELECTION PROCESS IN ORDER TO IDENTIFY ARTISTS AND POTENTIAL ARTWORK. THROUGH THIS PROCESS, STAFF IS BRINGING FORWARD THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE AN AGREEMENT WITH ARTIST KEN MCCALL TO FABRICATE TWO SCULPTURES FOR THE PROJECT. OKAY. I WANNA WALK YOU A LITTLE BIT THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE DEVELOPED BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE TOWN HAS IMPLEMENTED A ROBUST PRO PROCESS LIKE THIS THAT ALSO ENGAGED WITH THE ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION. BUT THIS WAS LED BY THE TOWN. SO ON FEBRUARY 24TH OF 25, STAFF ISSUED AN RFQ ON CALL FOR ENTRY, WHICH IS A NATIONAL PUBLIC ART PROCUREMENT PLATFORM. THE RFQ IDENTIFIED TWO POTENTIAL ART PROJECTS, ONE WITH A BUDGET OF $50,000 AND ANOTHER WITH A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS BUDGET BOTH TO BE INSTALLED WITHIN THE 0.7 ACRE GREEN BELT. ADJACENT TO THE PHASE TWO DEVELOPMENT RESPONDENTS WERE ASKED TO IDENTIFY WHETHER THEY WERE TEXAS BASED OR MINORITY ARTISTS BECAUSE THIS WAS A FOCUS, UM, FOR THE TOWN MOVING FORWARD WITH ART SELECTION. THE RFQ CLOSED ON MARCH 24TH, 25, AND THERE WERE 39 SUBMISSIONS THAT WERE RECEIVED FROM ARTISTS OF THE SUBMISSIONS. 13 WERE FROM TEXAS ARTISTS. IT IS TYPICAL FOR CITIES TO SELECT ARTISTS FROM A NATIONAL POOL FOR PROJECTS OF $50,000 OR MORE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET TO THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS RANGE. UM, WHEN WE WENT TO STAGE TWO OF THE PROCESS, WE HAD A SHORT LIST, SO, AND WE INVITED ARTISTS TO DEVELOP A CONCEPT FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION, A SELECTION COMMITTEE WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM [02:45:01] THE TOWN OF ADDISON, THE ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION, AND I LEFT OFF THIS NOTE. AM EMILY RESIDENTIAL, ALSO REVIEWED AND SCORED THE SUBMISSIONS AND INITIALLY SHORTLISTED SEVEN ARTISTS FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION SCORING CRITERIA WAS BASED ON RELEVANT EXPERIENCE, QUALITY OF WORK THAT THE ARTIST PROVIDED OF THEIR EXISTING WORK, THE ARTISTIC STYLE, AND WAS IT A GOOD FIT FOR THE PROJECT AND DURABILITY OF THE WORK. AFTER FURTHER REVIEW AND SCORING BY THE SELECTION COMMITTEE, THREE ARTISTS WERE INVITED TO DEVELOP CONCEPTS FOR THE TWO INSTALLATIONS. DANIEL HORNE, KENNETH MCCALL, AND CHRIS WRENCH. OKAY. SHORTLIST ARTISTS WERE ASKED TO DEVELOP CONCEPTS THAT WERE OF A PROFESSIONAL ARTISTIC QUALITY THAT FIT WITHIN ADDISON'S PUBLIC ART COLLECTION. THEY WERE ASKED TO TAKE INSPIRATION FROM THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT OF THE GREEN BELT THAT WAS BEING CREATED, INCLUDING PRESERVATION OF THE CANOPY TREES, POLLINATOR PATCHES, PERENNIALS, AND THEN ADDISON'S SIGNATURE TULIP PLANNINGS. WE ALSO PROVIDED FOR ADD, UM, INSPIRATION, THE SITE HISTORY, WHICH INCLUDED THE ADDISON TREE HOUSE, WHICH WAS AN ENTREPRENEUR INCUBATOR, UM, D'S RESTAURANT, WHICH WAS FORMERLY OWNED BY ADI MURPHY. AND THEN THE SITE'S HERITAGE AS A WORKING RANCH WITH HORSES AND WILDLIFE. THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UM, ART PIECE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE ARTIST. IT IS AT THE TERMINUS OF THE WALKWAY THAT WOULD CONNECT FROM MIDWAY ROAD INTO THE GREEN BELT. AND THESE ARE THE TWO CONCEPTS THAT WERE PROVIDED. THE FIRST ONE THAT YOU SEE ON MY LEFT IS BY ARTIST CHRIS WRENCH, WHICH IS A STEEL TREE FABRICATED FROM ACRYLIC LEAVES. AND THEN THE ONE ON THE RIGHT WAS PROPOSED BY ARTIST KENNETH MCCALL, WHICH IS AN ARCHWAY OF, UM, BRANCHES WITH LEAVES THAT WILL HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF FLUTTER FROM THE WIND AND MOVEMENT. AFTER REVIEWING THE SUBMITTALS, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN WITH THE LONGEVITY OF CHRIS WRENCHES PIECE, ALTHOUGH IT WAS VERY BEAUTIFUL, THE ACRYLIC PRODUCT THAT WAS, UM, COMPOSED IN THE LEAVES HAD A FIVE TO SEVEN YEAR GUARANTEE THAT IT WOULDN'T COLOR FADE. AND WE ARE INSTALLING 20 TO 50 YEAR ART PIECES. UM, AND SO THAT WAS VERY CONCERNING TO THE SELECTION COMMITTEE. WE DID OFFER CHRIS WRENCH AND OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME ALTERNATIVES, UM, AND THE ALTERNATIVES THAT HE PROVIDED WERE NOT SUITABLE. SO TAKING THIS INTO ACCOUNT, THE UM, COMMITTEE REALLY LEANED TOWARDS THE SELECTION OF WHERE LEAVES LISTEN. UM, THEY REALLY LIKED THE FACT THAT IT CREATED AN ARCHWAY OVER THE TRAIL THAT ALLOWED PEOPLE TO WALK THROUGH IT, AND IT TIED IN WITH THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT OF ALL THE CANOPY TREES THAT ARE BEING INSTALLED IN THE GREEN BELT. UM, SO THE SELECTION COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT ARTIST KENNETH MCCALL AND HIS PIECE WHERE LEAVES LISTEN, BE INSTALLED IN THE AMIE PHASE TWO PROJECT. THE SECOND LOCATION THAT FOR THE SMALLER BUDGET PIECE, THE $50,000 PIECE IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHERN END OF THE TRAIL WHERE THE AMLI CLOSE TO WHERE THE AMLI PHASE ONE PROJECT TIES INTO PHASE TWO. AND WE HAD TWO ARTISTS THAT PROVIDED CONCEPTS. ONE OF THEM WAS KENNETH MCCALL THAT PROVIDED A DANDELION CONCEPT, AND THE OTHER WAS DANIEL HORNICK THAT PROVIDED TWO, UM, ANIMALS THAT COULD BE KIND OF, THEY WOULDN'T FIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS LOCATION. THEY WOULD JUST BE KIND OF TUCKED INTO THE LANDSCAPE. ONE OF 'EM WAS A RACCOON AND ONE OF 'EM WAS A GREATER ROADRUNNER RUNNER. SO HE HAS TAKEN INSPIRATION FROM THE NATIVE WILDLIFE THAT WAS IN THE AREA. AFTER REVIEWING THE, SOME METALS WHISPERS OF THE WIND BY ARTIST KENNETH MCCALL IS RECOMMENDED TO ADVANCE TO FABRICATION BY THE SELECTION COMMITTEE. THE RECOMMENDATION IS BASED ON THE SCALE OF THE ARTWORK AND THE WAY THAT IT WOULD FIT INTO THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE SITE. OKAY. AND JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT ABOUT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, WHERE LEAVES LISTEN, IT'S AN 18 FOOT, UM, SIX INCH TALL STRUCTURE THAT'S ABOUT 23 FOOT WIDE. UM, AS THIS IS BEING FABRICATED, WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PROPER TRAIL CLEARANCE, UM, FOR BICYCLES AND PEOPLE USING THE TRAIL. BUT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE ART, TALKED TO THE ARTIST ABOUT THAT, AND WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT HE CAN ACHIEVE THOSE REQUIREMENTS. WE DID ASK THE ARTIST TO INCLUDE A PROVISION IN HIS CONTRACT TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL COLOR ONTO THE LEAVES TO ADD A LITTLE MORE INTEREST IN ACCENT, AND THAT HE WOULD DO THAT FOR NO INCREASE IN CHARGE. AND SO THAT IS SPELLED OUT IN THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE. OKAY. AND THEN WHISPERS OF THE WIND, UM, IS 18 FOOT TALL AND IT'S 13 FOOT WIDE. IT HAS ONE FULL DANDELION HEAD AND THEN ONE THAT STARTED TO BLOW IN THE WIND. UM, WE HAVE ASKED THE ARTIST TO INCLUDE PROVISIONS IN THE CONTRACT TO ADD ADDITIONAL SEED HEADS TO THE SMALLER DANDELION TO MAKE IT JUST LOOK A LITTLE MORE FILLED OUT. UH, AND THE ARTIST [02:50:01] AGREED TO DO THAT AT NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE. UM, WITH THAT I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU, JANA. QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT ONE. GO BACK TO THE PROPOSAL FROM THE RFPS ONE OUT. DID THE ARTISTS ALL KNOW AHEAD OF TIME THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR ART THAT HAD TO HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY OF 30 TO 50 YEARS? YES. THANK YOU. DURABILITY WAS DEFINED IN THAT RFQ. THANK YOU, MARLON. YEAH. HEY JANA. UH, WHO ARE THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS? SURE. THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS CONSISTED OF TOWN OF ADDISON STAFF, WHICH WOULD BE MYSELF, UM, AMBER DAVIS AND CHANDLER KNIGHT, AND THEN REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION. UM, I'M NOT GONNA CAPTURE ALL OF THEM BECAUSE WHO I'M CAPTURING IS WHO ATTENDED THE MEETINGS, BUT THEY WERE REPRESENTING THEIR LARGER GROUP. THEY MET INDEPENDENTLY AND PROVIDED FEEDBACK. THAT WOULD BE DR. JAY IIG, UM, BARBARA POPPAS, UH, JUDY MURRAY. AND I'M FORGETTING I GAVE YOU A LIST EARLIER. I'M FORGETTING ONE OF THE NAMES. OH, I DIDN'T SEE THAT ON THE LIST. OH, MARGIE. GUNTHER. MARGIE. OKAY. UH, UH, EXCUSE ME FOR FORGETTING MARGIE. SHE'S SO IMPORTANT. . OKAY. UM, AND THEN REPRESENTATIVES FROM AMIE RESIDENTIAL, WHICH INCLUDED ROBERT LAP, WHO'S HERE THIS EVENING. TAYLOR BOWEN. AND, UM, JOE BRUCE. JOE BRUCE. OKAY. UM, YEAH, I WANNA TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK AM EMILY FOR THE $150,000, UH, ART, ART FUNDS CONTRIBUTION. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH ROBERT. AND YOUR TEAM, UM, DID SO ON THIS, THIS ARTWORK WITH THE DANDELIONS, UM, WHISPERS OF THE WIND MM-HMM . SO I, YEAH, I KNOW YOU ALL ASKED THE ARTISTS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR MAYBE TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THIS ONE. DANDELION, THAT'S, THAT DOESN'T HAVE MUCH. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMETABLE WAS ON THAT, BUT, BUT HAS HE PROVIDED ANYTHING LIKE WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE? HIS NEXT STEP WILL BE TO PROVIDE DRAWINGS. ONCE, UM, HE HAS A CONTRACT TO MOVE FORWARD, HE'LL PROVIDE MORE DETAILED DRAWINGS AND STAFF WILL APPROVE THE CHANGES THAT HE'S MADE BEFORE HE STARTS FABRICATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OTHER QUESTIONS? CHRIS COMMENTS? UH, JEN, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS. UM, I SEE JAY AND BARBARA HERE. I WANNA THANK THE ARBOR FOUNDATION FOR ALL THEY'RE DOING WITH THE PUBLIC ART AND OF COURSE AM LEE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, DONATION. UH, I, WHEN I CAN, I POKE MY HEAD OVER THE FENCE TO LOOK AT THAT LINEAR PARK AND IT IS JUST GONNA BE FANTASTIC. SO I CAN'T WAIT TILL IT OPENS. SO THANKS TO EVERYONE. RANDY. UH, THE BIG ARCH LEAVES ONE, YOU SAID THAT WE'VE REQUESTED THAT MORE COLOR BE PUT IN IT. YES SIR. WHAT, UM, WHAT, WHAT IS THE FADING GONNA HAPPEN ON, ON THAT COLOR THAT WE'RE HAVING PUT IN? YEAH, SO THE ARTIST WOULD USE A POWDER COAT PRODUCT, WHICH IS THE SAME PRODUCT THAT'S USED ON THE OTHER STILL ART PIECES IN ADDISON. UM, IT TYPICALLY, IT DEPENDS ON THE COLOR. WE'RE RECOMMENDING A BLUISH COLOR THAT TYPICALLY HAS A 10 YEAR LIFESPAN, BUT IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE IN OUR MAINTENANCE BUDGET, A VERY SMALL AMOUNT PLUGGED IN EVERY YEAR. IF WE EVER NEED A TOUCH UP PAINT THAT WE CAN DO THAT ON TOP OF THE POWDER COATING. SO IT'S REALLY NOT A 30 TO 50 YEAR ART PIECE. IT IS, UM, THE ACRYLIC PIECES CAN'T BE REPLACED IN THE LEAVES AND CAN'T BE RECOLORED IN THAT ONE PIECE THAT I SHOWED. BUT ON THIS PIECE, IF THERE WAS SOME FADING THAT HAPPENED, I ANTICIPATE THAT THE FADINGS NOT GONNA HAPPEN AS QUICKLY BECAUSE IT'S IN A VERY SHADED AREA WITH A LOT OF CANOPY TREES. BUT IF THAT DOES HAPPEN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN RESTORE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL INTENT VERY EASILY. WHERE THE FIRST PIECE, YOU COULDN'T DO THAT. OKAY. UM, SAME ARTIST DOING BOTH OF THESE? YES, SIR. AND WHERE IS HE FROM? HE IS FROM IDAHO. IDAHO. IDAHO WAS MY RESEARCH. MM-HMM . UM, I'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN JUST A MINUTE. DO, DO, DO WE REALIZE, DOES THE ARTIST IN IDAHO REALIZE THAT A DANDELION IS A VERY INVASIVE WEED THAT WE TRY TO TERMINATE AROUND HERE? AND WHY WOULD WEWE WANTING TO PUT A WEED AS A PIECE OF ART? THE SELECTION COMMITTEE FELT LIKE DANDELIONS ALSO REPRESENT FUN. UM, IT'S THINGS THAT CHILDREN PICK UP AND THEY BLOW IN THE WIND AND IT ADDS A WHIMSICAL ELEMENT TO THE GREEN BELT. OKAY. OKAY. UH, I, I'LL COME BACK TO MY IDAHO COMMENT AND THEN I'LL LEAVE [02:55:01] YOU ALONE. UH, I THINK THIS IS THE THIRD OR FOURTH ART PIECE SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE US. AND EACH AND EVERY TIME I HAVE STATED MY GOAL OF ADDISON ARTIST FIRST DALLAS-FORT WORTH ARTIST, SECOND TEXAS ARTIST THIRD. AND THAT SEEMS TO FALL ON DEAF EARS. THERE IS NO WAY THAT I CAN SUPPORT EITHER ONE OF THESE PIECES OF ART WITH AN OUT-OF-STATE ARTIST LIKE THAT. WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON HOME. AND WITH THAT, I'LL LEAVE MY REST OF MY COMMENTS 'CAUSE I'LL BE VOTING. NO, DAN, JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU IN PUBLIC IDEOLOGY. JENNA, THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT YEARS. NINE YEARS OF SERVICE WILL BE DEARLY MISSED. ROBERT, THANK YOU TO THE TEAM AND AM EMILY FOR THE DONATION. 'CAUSE THAT IS A MASSIVE DONATION AGAIN FOR TREEHOUSE TWO, SO THANK YOU. YEAH. UH, JUST A QUICK COMMENT. UM, ACTUALLY A QUESTION AND A COMMENT. UH, FIRST WE WANNA THANK ARBOR FOUNDATION, JANA AND, UH, AND AMLI FOR GETTING, GETTING US TO THIS PLACE. THE, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS REGARDING, UM, THE, UH, THE ABILITY FOR THESE TO WITHSTAND HEAVY WINDS. MM-HMM . YOU FEEL, FEEL OKAY ABOUT THAT? YES, SIR. UM, WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE ARTIST ABOUT THIS STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING OF THESE PIECES. A LOT OF THAT'S CONTRIBUTED TO THE STEEL FOOTING OR THE CONCRETE FOOTING THAT THE STEEL PIECES ARE ATTACHED TO. AND HE IS GOING TO PROVIDE ENGINEERED SHOP DRAWINGS FOR THE AMLI TEAM TO USE TO INSTALL THAT PIER. AND IT, THEY WILL BE SEALED AND SIGNED BY A STATE OF TEXAS ENGINEER. OKAY. AND JUST IN CASE SOMETHING REALLY, SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED, THEY GOT BLOWN AWAY OR DAMAGED, AND SOMEHOW WHAT HAPPENS THEN? DOES THE ARTIST COME BACK AND, AND REPAIR OR, WE WOULD WORK ON HAVING THAT PIECE RESTORED TO ITS ORIGINAL INTENT. OKAY. UM, MANAGING THE PUBLIC ART COLLECTION FOR ADDISON, OUR FIRST INTENT IS TO ALWAYS GO TO THE ARTISTS FIRST AND SEE IF THEY HAVE THAT ABILITY FOR THE RESTORATION. UM, BUT IF THEY WEREN'T AVAILABLE, WE'VE USED OTHER RESTORATION COMPANIES BEFORE THAT COULD RESTORE THE PIECE. OKAY. THANK YOU DEAR. JUST COMMENT, THANK YOU TO THE ARBOR FOUNDATION FOLKS FOR, UH, UH, SELECTING, HELPING SELECT THIS AND JANET FOR YOUR TEAM'S EXPERTISE. AND EMILY ALSO . UM, YOU DON'T WANT ME CHOOSE ART? SO I ALWAYS AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE ART THAT EVERYBODY CHOOSES HERE. IT IS VERY DIVERSE AND I THINK THE ARTISTS SHOW THE DIVERSITY OF ADDISON. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME AND GO THROUGH ADDISON. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO HAVE THE BEST ARTISTS EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT BE OUR NEIGHBORS. UM, UH, AS, AS THIS, AND, YOU KNOW, TRY TRYING TO HAVE THAT LOCAL ARTIST IS, IS ALWAYS GOOD. AND I I SEE THAT THE EFFORT TO, TO DO SO. I THINK THESE PIECES ARE, UH, INTERESTING. UM, I THINK THAT, I THINK IT'S JUST, UH, DOES REALLY HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD FOR, UH, ADDING TO OUR VARIETY OF ART IN THE TOWN. SO THANK YOU. UM, I'M, UH, APPRECIATED THAT HOWARD. SO MY FAVORITE PIECE IS THE ONE WE DIDN'T DO BECAUSE I, I REALIZE IT WON'T LAST, BUT I DID LIKE THAT ONE THE BEST. I, I AM CONCERNED LIKE RANDY ABOUT NOT USING A TEXAS ARTIST, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE DANDELION AND I JUST, I, I'M OKAY WITH THE ONE THAT'S FULL AND I'M NOT AN ART CRITIC EITHER, BUT THE OTHER ONE LOOKS TERRIBLE. I MEAN, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE IT'S DYING OR, SO I, I'D RATHER SEE TWO FULL DANDELIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TOO LATE OR WHATEVER, BUT I JUST THINK THAT PIECE DOESN'T DO IT FOR ME. AND IT'S, AND I APPRECIATE AM EMILY AND PAYING FOR IT AND THE WORK, ALL OF THAT, ALL THAT'S POSITIVE, BUT THAT PIECE JUST LOOKS WEIRD TO ME. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE FEELS THAT WAY, BUT I THOUGHT I, YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE ARTIST TO GET THAT ONE MORE FULL IN, IN HEARING THAT WE DEFINITELY WILL CONVEY THAT TO HIM. YEAH. AND, AND HOWARD, I WOULD JUST MAKE A COMMENT TO THAT. SO, UH, IT, THAT'S THE THING ABOUT ART. EVERYBODY LOOKS AT IT DIFFERENTLY, RIGHT. AND 'CAUSE I LOOK AT THAT AND I THINK ABOUT WHEN WE WERE KIDS AND YOU FIND A DANDELION LIKE THIS IN THE YARD AND YOU PULL IT AND HOW MUCH FUN IT WAS TO BLOW THE DANDELION SPORES OFF OF IT. AND TO ME, THAT'S KIND OF A BEFORE AND AFTER YOU, THERE'S, THERE'S FUN YOU JUST HAD AND FUN THAT'S, THAT'S YET TO COME WHEN YOU CAN BLOW THE, THE SPORES OFF OF THAT. THAT'S HOW I SEE IT. AND AGAIN, I'M LIKE, UH, DARREN, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ART EITHER, BUT I KNOW WHAT I LIKE, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, YEAH, I'M, I ECHO HOWARD'S THOUGHTS. UM, WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THE FULL DANDELION LOOKED AWESOME, ESPECIALLY THE COLORS. I THOUGHT IT LOOKED BEAUTIFUL. AND THE OTHER ONE, TO ME IT JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE, THE FUN IN THAT ONE HAS ALREADY HAPPENED AND GONE AND IT JUST, IT LOOKS SAD TO ME. SO I CAN'T I CANNOT, UM, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE FIRST FIRST PIECE, BUT THIS SECOND PIECE, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN'T SUPPORT WITHOUT KNOWING, KNOWING [03:00:01] WHAT THE END PRODUCT WOULD BE. SO, UM, I'M, I GUESS I'M, WHERE HOWARD IS, IS I'D LOVE TO SEE TWO FULL DANDELIONS. I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. I, AND THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE LIKE A, A, A THIRD OF THE DANDELION. OKAY. NEEDS MORE DANDELION, BUT NOT THE WHOLE DANDELION. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK. IS THERE A, 'CAUSE OUR KIND OF THINKING WAS, IT WOULD BE NOT QUITE HALF THE DANDELION COVERED A LITTLE BIT LESS. SO PROBABLY A THIRD IF THERE, I THINK, I THINK THAT ONE LOOKS VERY ANEMIC, LIKE HOWARD WAS SAYING, UM, AND YOU AND I HEARD YOU SAY THAT HE WAS GONNA ADD SOME MORE SO THAT, THAT HELPED ME WITH IT. BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, A QUARTER TO A THIRD OR SOMETHING, IF WE HAVE TO, I'M ON BOARD WITH THE ONE THIRD DANDELION. ALRIGHT, RANDY, THANK YOU. JUST ONE MORE QUESTION TO FOLLOW UP ON MARLON'S QUESTION THERE. ON THE COMMITTEE, UH, YOU, YOU HAVE A, A LIAISON FROM COUNCIL MM-HMM . FOR THE ARBOR FOUNDATION. WHY ARE THE, WHY ARE THE LIAISONS NEVER INCLUDED IN THE COMMITTEES AND THE, AND THE SELECTION PROCESS IN THIS THAT SEEMS TO BE TURNING THEIR BACK ON COUNCIL? SO THIS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE ONE OF THESE. WE'VE CHANGED OUR POLICY WHERE ANYTHING OVER 50,000 DOESN'T GO TO THE ARBOR FOUNDATION. OKAY. IF THE LIAISON WANTS TO BE A PART OF THIS, AN RFP IN THE FUTURE, WE CERTAINLY CAN. THAT'S NOT A DIRECTION, I THINK, AT LEAST TO BE INVITED AND HAVE THE COUNCIL PERSON EITHER SAY THEY WANT TO OR NOT WOULD BE A, WOULD BE A NICE FEATURE ON THAT. SO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD WANT TO VOTE AND ACCEPT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT A FINISHED PRODUCT HERE WITHOUT A FINISHED RENDERING. I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT. IF WE VOTE THIS IN AND THEN IT COMES BACK AND HE SAYS HE WASN'T ABLE TO DO IT, I, I WOULD MUCH PREFER A, A FINISHED RENDERING OF A MORE FULL PRODUCT. DAN? YEAH, JUST FOR, JUST FOR THE COMMENT FOR BEING THE LIAISON, UH, TO, TO BARBARA AND TO DR. JAY. YEAH. IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE, TO BE REACHED OUT AND, AND IN A SENSE FOR ME, FROM THE STAFF SIDE, KNOWING THAT I HAVE THIS INVOLVEMENT, BUT YET NO INVOLVEMENT, UH, I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE ART LOOKED LIKE FROM THE TEXAS ARTISTS. IF THERE WERE TEXAS ARTISTS, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS DECLINED OR DENIED, JUST SO WE KNOW WHAT WAS COMING FROM TEXAS ARTISTS. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY. WITH THAT, IS THERE A MOTION FOR FIVE A I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. YEAH. WHICH ONE IS FIVE? A WHISPERS OF THE WIND? UH, THAT'S THE, THAT ONE WHERE LEAVES? WELL, IT'S THE OTHER ONES. IT'S THAT ONE. WHERE? THAT ONE? YEAH. MM-HMM . NOT THE DANDELION, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO YOU MADE THE MOTION CHRIS, WHO, WHO DID THE SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU, DARREN. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. WE'RE JUST VOTING ON FIVE A, RIGHT? CORRECT. CORRECT. YEP. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. YOU OPPOSED? AYE. ALL RIGHT. THAT ITEM IS APPROVED. IS THERE A MOTION FOR FIVE B? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CHRIS. I SECOND THE MOTION. THANK YOU DARREN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I THINK WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IS WHAT ART IS ALL ABOUT. UH, IT'S NOT PERFECT AND I THINK IF IT GETS PEOPLE TALKING AND GETS PEOPLE INTERESTED AND GETS PEOPLE INTO THAT PARK, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. GREAT POINT. ALRIGHT. I HAVE A DISCUSSION. I THINK IF YOU HAD COUNCIL SELECTING THE ART, ALL OF US, IT'D BE ABOUT THE SAME AS WHAT YOU GET. SO, UH, PROBABLY, PROBABLY NOT AS GOOD. SO, UH, I THINK IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S JUST SUBJECTIVE. THERE'LL BE SOME PEOPLE LIKE IT, SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T. SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF MAKING OUR TOWN MORE BEAUTIFUL, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T FIT EVERYBODY'S TASTE. OKAY. BUT FOR DISCUSSION, ALL MOTION THAT WE ADDEND OR I GUESS MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT, IF I'M SAYING THE WORDS RIGHT, THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO APPROVE FIVE B WITH THE ADDENDUM FROM THE ARTIST RENDERINGS PER THAT APPROVAL. I WOULD SECOND THAT ADDENDUM. WHEN WOULD THAT COME? WHAT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT YOU JUST SAID. ARE YOU TRYING TO TABLE IT UNTIL AFTER THEY GET A I'M NOT, I'M NOT LOOKING AT A TABLE. I TRUST THAT THE FACT THAT OUR STAFF'S GONNA GIVE US THE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT A, A MORE FULL DANDELION ON THE SECOND ONE. SO I'M GONNA, I'M NOT LOOKING TO HOLD THIS UP, BUT I AM LOOKING TO APPROVE IT BASED ON THAT PREMISE THAT IT WILL BE ADJUSTED VERSUS THE HEARSAY OF, WELL, YOU KNOW, I GUESS IT DIDN'T COME THROUGH. SO THE, AND THE COMMITTEE WOULD APPROVE THE FINAL RENDERING. IT DOESN'T NEED TO COME BACK TO US TO LOOK AT A ONE THIRD DAN DANDELION. CORRECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, CHRIS, ARE YOU, YOU OKAY WITH THAT? DID HE MAKE THE MOTION? WHO MADE THE ORIGINAL MOTION? CHRIS DID. I DID. OKAY. YOU OKAY WITH THAT? BUT I WOULD SUPPORT THAT MOTION TO MY SIGN. YOU WOULD AGREE TO AMEND YOUR MOTION AS SUBMITTED BY DAN? YES. ALRIGHT. DO WE NEED A SECOND FOR THAT? THE AMENDMENT FOR THE AMENDED MOTION. DARREN, DID YOU, ARE YOU I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, NO, I JUST, I WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE. UM, I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK. THIS IS A LOT OF GREAT ART. I, I'VE SHARED MY THOUGHTS ABOUT, ABOUT WHAT I THINK THE DANDELION LOOKS LIKE. SO I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT FIVE B, BUT, BUT I, I APPRECIATE THE ART, UH, ALL THE WORK. [03:05:01] OKAY. ALRIGHT. CAN I JUST SAY, COULD, COULD WE, I DON'T KNOW AND AMEND THE AMENDMENT, BUT COULD WE AMEND IT TO SAY AT LEAST A THIRD OF WHAT THE FULL ONE IS? BECAUSE JUST, I THINK THEY GOT THAT DIRECTION FROM US. WELL, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR THAT IT WAS AT LEAST A THIRD. HE COULD JUST ADD ONE OR TWO MORE DANDELIONS AND SAY, I HE FIXED IT. SORRY, TO CLAR TO CLARIFY IT WAS TO BE A FULL THIRD. OH, YOU DID SAY THAT. I BELIEVE I, I BELIEVE I CLEARLY STATED A THIRD. THE MOTION AGREED ON THE SECOND DANDELION. YES. THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE, OKAY. I DIDN'T HEAR THAT ADDENDUM TO THE MOTION. SORRY. I'M SORRY. ALRIGHT. I WOULD STILL, I WOULD STILL SECOND THE THIRD. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. I, I THINK WE HAVE DIRECTION. DOES THE CITY SECRETARY HAVE DIRECTION ON THE MOTION ON THE BOARD? OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE, AYE. ALRIGHT. ANY OPPOSED? AYE. TWO OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THAT ITEM IS APPROVED. THANK YOU, JANA. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, [6. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.] THE FINAL ITEM ON OUR, ON OUR REGULAR MEETING AGENDAS, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTERESTS, IT'S SET OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SHARE ANY EXPRESSION OF THANK CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE INFORMATION, ET CETERA. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE? MARLON? YEAH. MAYOR, I, I DO, UM, I WANNA THANK, UH, JANA TIDWELL FOR ALL OF HER GREAT WORK IN OUR, IN OUR CITY. UM, LOOKING OVER PARKS AND RECS AND DAISY LINES AND, AND SO FORTH IS A, IS A HANDFUL. UM, I SPEND A LOT OF TIME, UH, IN OUR PARKS AND I SPEND A TON OF TIME IN THE ATHLETIC CLUB. I'M, I'M THERE ALMOST EVERY DAY. AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I HEAR FROM OUR RESIDENTS HOW MUCH THEY LOVE THEIR PARK AND IT'S THEIR, IT'S THEIR PARK, RIGHT? THEY, THEY, THEY OWN IT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. UM, AND, UM, AND THOSE ARE MY PICKLEBALL COURTS, OKAY. . UM, AND, AND SO I HAVE JUST HEARD SO MANY GREAT THINGS OVER THE YEARS THAT, WHETHER IT BE THE PARK OR THE COURTS OR THE ATHLETIC CLUB, AND, UM, AND WE ARE ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A TOWN THAT CARES A LOT AND THERE'S A LOT OF LOVE AND THERE'S A TON OF, LOT OF, THERE'S A TON OF INPUT THAT COMES WITH THAT. SO I APPRECIATE YOU, YOU, YOU AND YOUR TEAM TAKING ALL THAT INPUT AND SHAPING WHAT YOU'VE SHAPED OVER, OVER YOUR TENURE HERE IN ADDISON. SO I APPRECIATE IT AND I WISH YOU GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARLON. DARREN, I COULD HAVE JUST SENT THIS IN AN EMAIL, BUT I DO WANNA RECOGNIZE THE PARKS, UH, DEPARTMENT. SO THERE, UH, ALONG THE, UM, THE TRAIL BEHIND PARK LANE IN ADDISON, UM, WHERE THE, UH, WALL WITH TARGET, WHERE TARGET IS, UH, THOSE TREES WERE, UH, ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND AND IT WOULD LOOK PRETTY SHABBY BACK. THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO HIDE, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE PLACES TO LIVE. UH, AND I, I KEPT AN EYE ON THAT. UH, EVERY TIME I WALKED THROUGH THERE, WHICH, WHICH WAS ALMOST DAILY, ONE DAY I WALKED THROUGH THERE AND THE TREES GOT A HAIRCUT. I MEAN, TIGHT AND RIGHT. I MEAN, WAY UP THERE, LIKE 10 FEET UP AND, AND MULCH ON THE GROUND. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS, BUT I THINK IT LOOKS FANTASTIC. UM, AND I ASKED, I ONLY GOT TO ONE NEIGHBOR SO FAR, BUT I ASKED THEM, THERE ARE FOLKS THAT GO TO THE DOG PARK. THAT LADY COULDN'T STOP RAVING ABOUT IT. SO WELL DONE. I MEAN, I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT JUST TO WANT TO LET PARK PARKS KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST QUIETLY IT JUST HAPPENED. AND, UM, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JANA. WELL DONE. AND I WISH YOU THE BEST IN YOUR NEXT CHAPTER. IT'S BEEN GREAT HAVING YOU HERE. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK A LOT OF YOU AND I DO TOO, SO I JUST WISH YOU THE BEST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE HERE. THANK YOU, DARREN. ANY OTHERS? CHRIS, UH, I ECHO THE COMMENTS. JENNA, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE FOR THE TOWN. I KNOW YOU AND I HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT TREES, AND I KNOW YOU APPRECIATE THEM MAYBE MORE THAN I DO. UH, AND SO I APPRECIATE ALL YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. UM, AND CHIEF JONES. I, I, I JUST CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE 26 YEARS MY FAMILY'S LIVED HERE, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF STUPID THINGS THAT HAVE REQUIRED YOUR GUYS TO COME OUT AND, UM, YOU GUYS HAVE ALWAYS TREATED US WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT. AND I KNOW THAT ISN'T BY ACCIDENT. I KNOW THAT YOU'VE LIVED THE ADDISON WAY FOR THE ENTIRE TIME YOU'VE BEEN HERE, AND YOU MADE SURE THAT YOUR GUYS DID THE SAME. SO YOU, YOU WILL DEFINITELY BE MISSED. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHRIS. I'M SORRY, BRUCE. I HAVE ONE MORE. OKAY, GO AHEAD. OKAY. SO, UM, CHIEF JONES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TOO. WE HAVE THE CELEBRATION FOR YOU. I'LL, I'LL KEEP THE COMMENT. SO CHIEF FREEZE, YOUR, YOUR CREW ACTUALLY BEFORE YOU GOT HERE TOOK REALLY GOOD CARE OF A LADY UP IN, UH, BRUCE'S NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UM, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, SHE GAVE ME A YETI COOLER TO GIVE TO YOUR CREW, A NICE YETI COOLER. AND I TOLD HER, I SAID, I CAN'T GIVE IT TO YOU TO THEM WITHOUT IT COMING FROM YOU. SO I'VE GOT A LETTER FINALLY FROM HER. UH, IT'S A ROBIN MAYNER IF YOU KNOW HER IN, IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD UP THERE. UM, SHE, UH, OWNS A, UH, CAR, CAR, UH, REPAIR PLACE OVER IN CAR CARROLLTON. BUT, UM, HER MOTHER WAS MENTALLY, UH, UH, DECLINING WITH, UM, ALZHEIMER'S OR SOMETHING SIMILAR AND, UH, WAS FAIRLY DIFFICULT. UH, AND YOUR, YOU GUYS CAME OUT, THE POLICE STAFF CAME OUT THERE MANY TIMES. UM, SO I JUST WANT [03:10:01] TO PASS THAT ON. UH, SHE WAS SO GRATEFUL, YOU WAS SO KIND AND CARING, UH, AND GENTLE WITH HER MOM, UH, AND IT REALLY MEANT A LOT TO HER. SO I, I'LL GET YOU GUYS A LETTER WITH THAT COOLER IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DARREN. UH, JUST A COUPLE THINGS FROM ME. UH, I'LL, I'LL DITTO THE, UH, THE COMMENTS, UH, ABOUT JANICE. JANA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO, TO ADD US FOR ALL THESE YEARS. AND, AND I KNOW THE WORK THAT YOU DO IN OUR PARKS AND MAKING OUR ENVIRONMENT SO MUCH BETTER. YOU DO IT BECAUSE IT COMES FROM YOUR HEART AND THAT'S WHO YOU ARE, AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE SPECIAL. SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE, UH, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE, UH, FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO, AND I WISH YOU THE VERY, VERY BEST. AND CHIEF JONES, YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT YOU, MY FRIEND. UH, YOU'RE ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE, AND YOUR FAMILY'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE FAMILIES. WE'LL MISS YOU AROUND HERE. BUT I DO HOPE THAT YOU'LL, UH, GRACE US WITH YOUR PRESENCE FROM TIME TO TIME. THE OTHER THING I HAVE WAS YESTERDAY MORNING I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO DOWN TO THE COTTON BOWL FOR THE, UM, THE UPDATE BRIEFING FOR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ON THE, UH, FIFA WORLD CUP COMING IN IN NINE, ABOUT 90 SOMETHING DAYS NOW. SO IT'S COMING RIGHT ON US. UH, AND, AND I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THE, THE COMMITTEE THAT'S PUTTING ALL THAT TOGETHER HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR YEARS. THE AMOUNT OF PLANNING THAT'S INVOLVED IN THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE. YOU CAN'T EVEN THINK HOW MUCH THAT IS. UH, BUT, UH, BUT IT'S GONNA BE AN EXCITING TIME. AND, AND I, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME THINGS IN ADDISON TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL THE THOUSANDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT'LL BE COMING INTO THE DFW AREA DURING THAT TIME. SO THAT WAS REALLY, UH, AN INTERESTING TIME YESTERDAY MORNING. SO, ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? I'LL JUST MAKE A QUICK CHIEF JONES. JENNA, YOU HAVE VIP TICKETS TO KA BOOMTOWN ON ME. OH, WELL THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. YOU'RE SUCH A GIVER, DAN. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, UH, ADJOURN THE REGULAR MEETING, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK INTO OUR, UH, WORK SESSION ITEMS TO WRAP UP AT, UH, 9 0 8. THANKS EVERYBODY. AND NOW SUBSTITUTING FOR DAVID GAINES. WE'LL BE PASSION HAYES IN THE CITY MANAGER SEAT . ALRIGHT, THAT WAS AN UPGRADE PASSION INSTEAD OF DAVID. HELLO? DID YOU SAY THAT'S AN UPGRADE? I DID. OH MY GOSH. I DON'T THINK YOUR MIC. NO, IT'S OKAY. IT'S OKAY. OKAY. I THINK I SAID IT FOR YOU. ALRIGHT, SO WE WILL GO BACK TO THE WORK SESSION. ALRIGHT, ITEM [b. Present and discuss the Addison Police Department's 2025 Annual Report.] SIX B ON THE WORK SESSION. PRESENT AND DISCUSS THE ADDISON POLICE DEPARTMENT'S 2025 ANNUAL REPORT. CHIEF FREEZE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. CHRIS FRIES, CHIEF OF POLICE. I'M THRILLED TO STAND UP HERE AND GET TO, UH, HIGHLIGHT THE INCREDIBLE WORK OF THE MEN AND WOMEN, MEN AND WOMEN OF THE ADDISON POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM, THE ANNUAL REPORT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE, AND THAT REPORT IN ITS ENTIRETY IS ATTACHED TO THE PRESENTATION AS WELL. THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT WILL JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE HIGH LEVEL, UM, DATA FROM 2015, UH, COMPARED TO 2024. AND THEN REALLY SHOWCASE THE WORK THAT, LIKE I SAID, THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE ADDISON POLICE DEPARTMENT DO ON A DAILY BASIS, BUT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO KIND OF CAPTURE THAT AND ENCOMPASS IT FOR THE THE TOTAL YEAR. UM, START OFF WITH JUST THE DEPARTMENT OVERVIEW. UH, WE HAVE THE OPERATIONS BUREAU AND THE, THE SUPPORT BUREAU, BOTH LED BY OUR TWO ASSISTANT CHIEFS, MIKE VINCENT AND TJ METZER. UM, AND THEN THE OFFICE OF THE CHIEF. THAT'S WHERE OUR BUDGET LIVES AND PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS JUMPING RIGHT INTO THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF 2025. AND THE FIRST ONE THAT I REALLY WANNA HIGHLIGHT, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE, THE DATA POINTS THERE, UH, WE HAD A DECREASE IN MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT OF 54%. UM, AND THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE WITHOUT, AGAIN, JUST THE COLLABORATION, THE TEAMWORK THAT WE HAVE FROM OUR DETECTIVES TO OUR PATROL OFFICERS, INTEGRATING AND LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY, THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE'VE BUILT WITH TASK FORCES IN THE AREA, OUR STATE AND LOCAL PARTNERS, UM, THIS IS WHERE YOU REALLY SEE THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT THAT IS A DIRECT REFLECTION OF THE WORK THAT THEY DO, UM, EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE ALSO SAW AN OVERALL PROPERTY CRIME DECREASE BY 26%. UH, WE ARE ABLE TO CREATE AND STAFF OUR COMMUNITY RESPONSE TEAM, THEIR WHOLE GOAL IS TO ADDRESS CRIME HOTSPOTS. THAT'S GOING BACK TO THAT EVIDENCE-BASED POLICE POLICING APPROACH OF LOOKING AT WHERE, BASED ON DATA, WHERE CAN WE, YOU KNOW, DEDICATE OUR FINITE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES TO REALLY GET THAT GOOD RETURN ON WHAT WE'RE DOING. UM, THEY APPREHEND WANTED FELONS. THEY'RE INCREASING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PATROLS, AND THEY'RE ALSO HELPING BRIDGE THAT GAP WITH OUR HOMELESS OUTREACH ALONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OFFICER. SPEAKING OF WHICH OFFICER KLOSTER, YOU SEE A LOT OF HIM. HE HAS DONE INCREDIBLE WORK OVER THIS PAST YEAR OF JUST REACHING OUT, WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, WORKING WITH INTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS, UM, TO WHAT, UH, DARREN, WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, JUST WITH WORKING WITH PARKS AND GETTING THAT CLEANED UP. HE'S INTEGRAL OF THAT IN COMMUNICATING WITH OUR OTHER, UH, DEPARTMENTS TO REALLY ADDRESS OUR HOMELESSNESS ISSUE AROUND THE TOWN. UM, HE ALSO PARTNERS WITH BUSINESSES, RUNS OUR SANTA, UH, HEROES PROGRAM. UM, JUST GETTING THINGS INCORPORATED WITH, UH, GEORGE W. BUSH OR GEORGE BUSH [03:15:01] ELEMENTARY. UM, HE DOES JUST INCREDIBLE WORK DAILY. UM, WE'VE LOOKED AT PRIORITIZING OUR HEALTH, UH, OUR OFFICERS, UM, MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS. THAT IS ALSO, UH, GOING BACK TO ONE OF THE, UH, DECISION PACKAGES THAT WE HAD IN 2024, FUNDING OUR, UH, CONTINUED, UH, HEALTH INITIATIVES. UM, SO ONE THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW IS JUST OUR EXHAUSTIVE, UH, PHYSICALS THAT THE OFFICERS ARE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. SO A BIG SHOUT OUT OF THANKS TO COUNCIL AND CITY MEMBERS'S OFFICE FOR PUTTING THAT IN THE BUDGET. UH, WE COMPLETED OUR TPCA RE-ACCREDITATION. UM, LIEUTENANT PEACH, OUR PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS LIEUTENANT SPEARHEADED THAT, THAT WAS A YEARS LONG PROCESS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE UP TO DATE ON BEST STANDARDS AND PRACTICES. HE'LL BE RECOGNIZED AT THE T-T-P-C-A CONFERENCE IN APRIL. UH, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A RECOGNITION EVENT FOR HIM IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AS WELL. BUT AGAIN, JUST THE INCREDIBLE WORK THAT HE'S BEEN ABLE TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACHIEVE THAT RE-ACCREDITATION, THAT IS A ARDUOUS PROCESS AND HE TACKLED IT, UM, JUST IN AN AMAZING WAY. UM, WE TRANSITIONED ANOTHER SHOUT OUT TO COUNSEL FOR THIS, FOR THE CONTRACT, BEING ABLE TO TRANSITION FROM THE GREAT BOND JAIL TO THE RICHARDSON JAIL. UM, IT HAS IMPROVED OUR RESPONSE TIMES. IT'S IMPROVED THE ABILITY TO HAVE OFFICERS OUT ON THE STREET LONGER. UM, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE HAD NOTHING BUT, UM, GOOD SUCCESS WORKING WITH RICHARDSON. THEY'VE BEEN INCREDIBLE PARTNERS AND THAT COULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE SUPPORTIVE COUNCIL. AND ALSO WE CONTINUE OUR TRAINING CURRICULUM SO THAT ADDISON POLICE OFFICERS MET OR EXCEED ALL NATIONAL AND STATE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS, UM, INCLUDING ACTIVE SHOOTER RESPONSE AND DEESCALATION TECHNIQUES. AGAIN, JUST HIGHLIGHTING THE, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT OUR TEAM HAS DONE. AND WHEN I SAY, UH, OFFICER KLOSER, HE SPEARHEADS THIS, BUT AGAIN, GOING BACK, A LOT OF OUR OFFICERS WEAR MULTIPLE HATS, SO HE KIND OF LEADS THAT EFFORT. BUT WE HAVE MULTIPLE OFFICERS AND DETECTIVES THAT HELP HIM THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IN ALL OF THESE COMMUNITY EVENTS. THEY ATTEND HOA MEETINGS. UM, THEY'VE, UH, ORGANIZED BLOOD DRIVES WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. UM, THEY'VE WORKED WITH, UH, CREATING A NEW PROGRAM WITH TARGET TO WHERE, UM, 20, UH, STUDENTS WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO GO AND SHOP WITH OFFICERS, UM, AND REALLY HELP HAVE THEM MAKE GOOD HOLLI, HELP THEM HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY SEASON. UM, AND ALSO THE, UH, SANTA HEROES DRIVE, WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY 15 ADDISON CHILDREN'S AND, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HELP THEM THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS AS WELL. UH, MOVING INTO OUR DATA, SO 2025, WE ANSWERED 12,540 CALLS. UM, THE TOP THREE CALLS FOR, UH, CALLS FOR SERVICE WERE BURGLARY ALARMS, CONTACT COMPLAINANTS, AND MINOR DISTURBANCES. UH, WE MADE 962 ARRESTS FOR THE YEAR, UH, CONDUCTED 9,761 TRAFFIC STOPS. AND OUR OFFICERS COMPLETED 2,912 REPORTS. MOVING OVER INTO OUR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION, OUR DETECTIVES WERE ASSIGNED 2,835 CASES. UM, OF THOSE, THEY, THEY'RE ABLE TO GET CLEARANCES AND 1,734 OF THEM. UM, WE HAVE EIGHT DETECTIVES. UH, THEY'RE, UM, ASSIGNED ON AVERAGE SEVEN CASES PER WEEK. UM, OUR TEAM WORKED TOGETHER TO PROCESS EVIDENCE, UNCOVER LEADS, RESEARCH SUSPECTS. UM, IN, IN DOING THAT, SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS, THEY WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AND HELP DISMANTLE A MAJOR VEHICLE THEFT RING, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT HELPS DRIVE THAT DECREASE IN OUR VEHICLE THEFTS. AND ALSO THEY'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AND DISMANTLE MAJOR RETAIL THEFT RINGS, WHICH ALSO HELP DRIVE THAT OVERALL PROPERTY CRIME. UH, NUMBER DOWN. AND ALSO JUST AS AN ADAGE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE WORK THEY DO, OUR DETECTIVES WITHIN THE YEAR ARE ABLE TO OBTAIN, UM, ARREST WARRANTS IN 732 DIFFERENT CASES. LOOKING AT OUR NEIGHBORS. THIS IS THE, UH, STANDARD FOR CRIME STA CRIME STATISTIC REPORTING PER THE FBI. UH, OUR ROLLING AVERAGE. YOU SEE, WE HAD A SPIKE IN 2022, AND OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE BEEN ON A STEADY DECLINE. WE'RE SEEING THIS REGION-WIDE. UM, BUT AGAIN, WE ALWAYS LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE GOOD WORK THAT, THAT OUR, UH, MEN AND WOMEN ARE DOING WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. UH, IN 2025, WE HAD A 12% DECREASE IN CRIMES AGAINST PERSON. UH, AND JUST TO CALL OUT A QUICK NOTE, IN DECEMBER OF 2024, THERE WAS A SUSPICIOUS DEATH THAT WAS REPORTED. IT WAS NOT CLASSIFIED AS A HOMICIDE UNTIL 2025. AND AGAIN, I WANNA CALL OUT OUR DETECTIVES. THAT WAS A MONTHS LONG INVESTIGATION. UM, THEY HAD TO COMB THROUGH EVIDENCE, UM, AND JUST, IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY TOUGH CASE FOR THEM TO WORK. THAT ENDED UP IN A CAPITAL MURDER ARREST BASED ON THE AGE OF THE VICTIM. SO THOSE NUMBERS FOR 2024 HAVE BEEN UPDATED. THAT'S WHY, UH, THAT, UM, NUMBER FOR MURDER WENT FROM ONE TO TWO BECAUSE IT WASN'T CLASSIFIED UNTIL 2025 WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT ARREST. UM, 2025, WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 26% FEWER CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY. AGAIN, THERE WERE NO INCREASES IN THE CATEGORY. FROM 2024, ALMOST A 30% DECREASE IN BURGLARIES, 54% DECREASE IN VEHICLE THEFTS, AND 27% DECREASE IN FRAUD. SO LOOKING FORWARD, WHERE ARE OUR GOALS GOING AHEAD? AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST CONTINUING TO PUT AN EMPHASIS ON RECRUITING, RETAINING, AND TRAINING QUALITY EMPLOYEES AND OFFICERS, UM, WANTING TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE WITH OUR IMPLEMENTED STEP PROGRAM, SUPPORT OUR NEW LEADERS WITH TRAINING AND GUIDANCE AND INCREASE OUR MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES. UM, THIS YEAR WE STARTED A NEW TRAINING REGIMEN WITH OUR SUPERVISORS, UH, AS A LEADERSHIP [03:20:01] DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM THAT CENTERS AROUND THE BOOK DIGNITY AND POLICING. UM, AS A COMMAND STAFF, WE MEET MONTHLY, UH, TO GO OVER THEIR CURRICULUM. AND THEN QUARTERLY WE MEET WITH ALL OF OUR SUPERVISORS, UH, AND HELPS BUILD EMOTIONAL WELLNESS AS A LEADERSHIP SKILL. UH, EMPHASIZES DECISION MAKING AND PROBLEM SOLVING. AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST OTHER WAYS THAT WE SUPPORT THE NEXT GENERATION OF LEADERS IN THE DEPARTMENT, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT PROPER SUCCESSION PLANNING AND GIVING ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO BECOME SUCCESSFUL. UH, CONDUCTING DEPARTMENT-WIDE ACTIVE SHOOTER TRAINING TO FILL STATE MANDATES. AND AS OF THIS REPORT, EVERY OFFICER WITHIN, UH, THE DEPARTMENT HAS CONDUCTED THAT TRAINING. WE'RE ABLE TO COMPLETE THAT AT THE END OF FEBRUARY. WE'RE LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING THE INTEGRATED COMMUNICATIONS ASSESSMENT AND TACTICS TOOL OR ICAT. UM, THIS IS FOR OFFICERS TO SAFELY AND EFFECTIVELY RESPOND TO CRITICAL INCIDENTS ON A VERY, VERY HIGH LEVEL. THIS IS JUST ABOUT SLOWING THINGS DOWN. A LOT OF THE CALLS THAT WE RESPOND TO INVOLVE EITHER SOMEBODY IN MENTAL CRISIS TO WHERE BACK IN THE DAY IT WAS, WE GET THERE, WE RUSH IN, WE MIGHT, MIGHT MAKE THE ARREST AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. THIS IS REALLY SLOWING THAT INCIDENT DOWN, FOCUSING ON DEESCALATION, FOCUSING ON COMMUNICATING, AND REALLY TRYING TO GET TO A PROPER, UM, END RESULT FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED AND MAKE SURE THAT THE SAFETY IS BEING PLACED WITH THE WELLBEING. UM, CONTINUE TO PROVIDE IN-DEPTH PHYSICAL HEALTH ASSESSMENT FOR ALL OFFICERS. WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF THAT AS RIGHT NOW. LIKE I SAID, TYING BACK TO THAT DECISION PACKAGE FROM LAST YEAR, UM, BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, ALL OF OUR OFFICERS WOULD'VE GONE THROUGH THAT IN-DEPTH PHYSICAL ASSESSMENT. UM, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH INTERNAL EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS TO ADDRESS OUR HOMELESSNESS ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, WORKING WITH MEMBERS OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, WORKING WITH MEMBERS FROM THE CITY MANAGERS DEPARTMENT IN DALLAS METRO CREST. WE HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS WHERE WE SIT DOWN AND WE'VE, IF WE'VE IDENTIFIED AN AREA WE'RE GOING IN, WE'RE FOLLOWING UP, PROVIDING THAT LONG-TERM CARE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES PROPERLY AND APPROPRIATELY. UM, AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT INSTALLING AND CONTINUING OUR LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION CAMERAS. UM, THIS IS A FORCE MULTIPLIER WHENEVER YOU LOOK AT DOING, LOOKING IN OUR, UH, DROP IN MOTOR VEHICLE THEFTS. THIS IS A DIRECT REFLECTION OF JUST BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE AND SHARE RESOURCES WITH OTHER AGENCIES IN REAL TIME. UM, AND THIS HAS BEEN A GAME CHANGER FOR US, AND WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THAT PROGRAM AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO WITH THAT, I'D LOVE TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CHIEF. RANDY, CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE 14, PLEASE, SIR? YES, SIR. I'M SORRY. 14. I DON'T, 14 1 4. YES, SIR. WHERE YOU HAVE THE YEARLY, BASICALLY 24 VERSUS CRIME DATA. MAN, THERE'S A, THERE'S A COUPLE OF NUMBERS THERE THAT JUST MAKE MY EYEBALLS POP OUT. IS IT THE INCREASES? PARDON ME? WHICH ONES? NO, NO, NO. WHAT, WHAT DO WE CLASSIFY AS A KIDNAPPING? I, MY TO THINK THAT THERE IS 14 KIDNAPPINGS A YEAR IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON. YEAH. SO KIDNAPPING IS, WE CLASSIFY THAT AS KIDNAPPING, CLASSIFIED AS BASICALLY IT CAN BE SOMEBODY UNLAWFUL RESTRAINT, UM, SIDE TIMES AND FAMILY VIOLENCE. IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY CALLING IN AND THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO LEAVE, THAT'S CLASSIFIED IN IVERS AS A Q. OKAY. I THINK IT'S NOT TRADITIONALLY WHAT YOU WOULD THINK OF SOMEBODY BEING PULLED INTO A VEHICLE AND DRIVEN OFF THESE, UM, CLASSIFICATIONS ARE VERY STRINGENT BY THE FBI. I JUST WANT TO GET THAT IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE, THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT BEING DRAGGED INTO BLACK VANS AND NEVER SEEN FROM AGAIN. YES, SIR. UH, BUT THOSE ARE JUST NUMBERS THAT, TO ME JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT OF EXPLANATION. UH, UH, THERE'S SEVERAL OF THEM THAT DO THAT. BUT THE KIDNAPPING, JUST PARTICULARLY WITH THE NEWS THAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN THE LAST MONTH, UH, THAT THAT IS, AND I DO WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU AND YOUR DETECTIVES AND YOUR ENTIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE, UH, UH, HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND PROSTITUTION, UH, CONVICTION THAT WAS JUST MADE THAT I SAW TODAY SENDING THOSE PEOPLE TO THE FEDERAL PENITENTIARY FOR A LONG TIME. IT WAS A VERY LONG INVESTIGATION. THEY STUCK WITH IT. WELL DONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BEN. CHIEF, CAN YOU START BACK TO, BACK TO THE SAME POINT? SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. UM, CAN YOU DISCUSS SORT OF THE CLASSIFICATION FOR RAPES BEING UP? YEAH. SO, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT NUMBER 28%, THAT CAN BE A KIND OF A JUMPING OUT. BUT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT FROM 14 TO 18, KIND OF GIVES SOME CONTEXT. UM, AGAIN, THAT IS GOING AT RAPE AS IT'S DEFINED IN BRS AS ANYTHING. IT COULD BE FONDLING, IT COULD BE UNWANTED APPROACHES, UH, UNWANTED TOUCHING, TOUCHING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO WITHIN THAT, WITHIN THE 14 FROM THE YEAR PRIOR, THE 18 FROM 25, ARE THOSE ALL MISDEMEANOR OFFENSES? ARE THOSE FELONY OFFENSES, AND WERE THOSE ALL CLEARED FOR SOME I USING THE RIGHT TERM CLEARED? IT COULD BE A MIX. IT COULD BE A MIX OF MISDEMEANOR AND FELONY. AND OUT OF THOSE, UM, 18, 15 HAVE BEEN CLEARED. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. CHIEF, UH, QUESTION. OH, GO AHEAD DARREN. SO ON, UM, RICHARDSON JAIL, DO WE HAVE ANY METRICS ON THAT YET? UM, SO WE ARE, AS YOU TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS LIKE RESPONSE TIME AND HOW WE'RE YEAH. HOW IT'S HELPING, WHAT'S, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE RESULTS? I MEAN, YOU SPOKE HIGHLY [03:25:01] OF IT AND IT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S WORKING WELL. IT IT IS. YEAH. SO ON AVERAGE, WE'RE STILL, WE'RE ABOUT BELOW AN HOUR COMPARED TO, WE ARE ABOUT TWO HOURS BEFORE. OKAY. UM, AND THEN IT, IT, AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON THE TIME OF DAY. SURE. WE'VE HAD INSTANCES WHERE IT'S BEEN AS LITTLE AS 25, 30 MINUTES, BUT ON AVERAGE WE'VE, UH, MORE THAN DOUBLED, DECREASED MORE THAN CUT OUR TIME IN HALF BY MOVING TO RICHARDSON. OKAY. AND ON, I THINK IT'S, I HAD SLIDE SIX. UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE SIX? MY NUMBERS MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN YOURS. UH, EITHER WAY IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE BURGLARY. SO THE BURGLARY ALARM, HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE REAL OR FALSE ALARMS? UM, I DON'T HAVE THOSE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT I CAN TALK IN GENERALITIES. MOST BURGLARY ALARMS ARE, ARE FALSE ALARMS, AND THAT'S JUST NATIONWIDE. OKAY. BUT I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL SPECIFICS FOR OUR NUMBERS OF WHICH ARE FALSE ALARM VERSUS WHICH AREN'T TRUE BURGLARY ALARMS. OKAY. AND THEN I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU IF YOU'D LIKE, JUST TO GET THAT GIVES ME KIND OF THE IDEA. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. UH, SLIDE FOUR, UH, ON YOUR, UM, THE, UH, THE, THE FITNESS INITIATIVES. UM, SO HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE IN THE THOUSAND POUND CLUB? I MEAN, I WANT TO KNOW. WE CURRENTLY HAVE, I BELIEVE, NINE PEOPLE IN THE THOUSAND POUND CLUB. IT'S A THOUSAND POUND POWER LIFTING. SO YEAH, I WILL SAY WE HAVE, UH, ONE OF OUR DETECTIVES, UM, SHE IS BLOWING PEOPLE OUTTA THE WATER. WE HAD TO CREATE A SPECIAL CLUB FOR HER. AT FIRST IT WAS LIKE 600 POUND CLUB, AND NOW SHE'S AT THE 750 POUND CLUB. ALL RIGHT. WHICH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, I'M SORRY GETTING OFF, I'M NOT ME TALKING ALL DAY, BUT THIS, LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGE OF, OF MEN THAT CAN MAKE THE A THOUSAND POUND CLUB AS TO FEMALE TO CORRELATION TO 600, 7 50, IT'S LESS THAN 1%. AND SHE IS ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE. ALRIGHT, THANKS CHRIS. UH, FIRST I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'RE DOING. UH, I THINK IT'S SHOWING IN, IN THE NUMBERS. UH, I HAVE A QUESTION ON STAFFING. UM, WHERE ARE WE, UM, ARE WE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE? SO CURRENTLY WE ARE FULLY STAFFED. WE HAVE BEEN FULLY STAFFED. WE, UM, ALSO HAVE AUTHORIZED OVERFILLED POSITIONS THAT WE FLUCTUATE BETWEEN ONE TO THREE. UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES IN THAT OVERFILL POSITION, BUT WE HAVE CURRENTLY FOUR LATERAL OFFICERS IN THE PROCESS FROM OTHER AGENCIES THAT WE'RE WORKING BACKGROUNDS ON. OKAY. UM, I'M VERY HAPPY WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WITH STAFFING. SO NO OVERTIME, LIKE WE USED TO DO YEARS AGO WHERE WE COULDN'T FIND POLICE OFFICERS AND BA BASED ON, WITH THE SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR SET PLAN, WE HAVE SEEN JUST A REALLY GOOD INFLUX OF QUALITY APPLICANTS, BUT ALSO WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT, UM, OVERTURN OF OUR CURRENT, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING, WHICH IS WHERE THE, WHERE IT'S REALLY MADE OFF AT. SO HAS THE STEP PLAN REALLY HELPED WITH THAT? YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS JUST A COMMENT. YOU KNOW, WHEN I SEE SOME OF YOUR GUYS AROUND TOWN AND WE TALK, THEY HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR YOU. UM, AND YOU, YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS TO, UM, REALLY CREATE A CULTURE THAT, UH, WANT TO KEEP YOUR GUYS HERE. SO, UM, REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. YEAH, THANK YOU. YEAH, CHRIS, KUDOS TO EVERYTHING CHRIS JUST SAID. I WOULD RE I WAS ABOUT TO REITERATE SOME OF THE STEP PROGRAM QUESTIONS. SO BACK TO, UM, I KNOW WE'RE ONE QUARTER IN AND THE TIER ONE, TIER TWO PROGRAM WITH THE TEST WE'RE RUNNING WITH, UM, HOTEL MOTEL. DO YOU SEE THAT AS BECOMING A YELLOW FLAG, RED FLAG RIGHT ON PAR? WHAT YOU EXPECTED AFTER Q FIRST? I WOULD SAY WE'RE RUNNING FIRST QUARTER, WHAT WE'D EXPECTED. WE'VE, WE'VE GONE OUT, WE'VE SPOKEN WITH PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, HAD MEETINGS WITH THEM, UM, PROVIDED EXPECTATIONS GOING FORWARD, UM, WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT WITH IT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. YEAH. JUST, UH, REAL QUICK, UH, CHIEF, UH, UH, YOU'RE THE THINGS THAT YOU SAY ABOUT STAFFING AND PEOPLE ARE STAYING AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE EXCITED TO COME IN HERE. UH, I ATTRIBUTE A LOT OF THAT TO THE STEP PLAN. I ATTRIBUTE MORE OF IT TO THE, THE POSITIVE SHIFT IN THE CULTURE THAT YOU'VE MADE SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND I GET THE SAME COMMENTS FROM, FROM THE OFFICERS WHEN I, WHEN I TALK TO THEM AROUND TOWN. AND SO, UH, CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOUR SUCCESS WITH THAT. THE ONE THING THAT, THAT STICKS IN MY MIND AND, AND IT, EVERY YEAR WHEN I SEE IT, IT ALWAYS, UM, MAKES ME A LITTLE UNEASY WITH THE ZERO UNDER HUMAN HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND, UH, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE DFW IS A BIG HUMAN TRAFFICKING TARGET. UM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S AN UNREPORTED CRIME. IS THAT REALLY WHAT HAPPENS? AND IS ANYBODY MAKING ANY PROGRESS WITH THAT? IT IS. SO THAT OFFENSE PARTICULARLY, IT IS SEVERELY UNDER-REPORTED. UM, AND INVESTIGATIONS ARRESTS TAKE SO LONG TO WHERE YOU MIGHT NOT SEE REFLECTIONS. ONE YEAR YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTHING, AND THEN ONE YEAR YOU MIGHT HAVE FIVE OR SIX MM UH, NOT TO SAY THAT IT'S NOT HAPPENING, IT'S HAPPENING IN EVERY SINGLE COMMUNITY. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING GOOD INVESTIGATIVE LEADS, UM, WORKING WITH STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERS, UM, AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS JUST TRYING TO GET INFORMATION [03:30:01] AND GET IN, UM, TO, WHETHER IT'S BUSINESS OR SOMEBODY COMING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY. UM, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S A, A REAL ISSUE THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO, TO WORK WITH AND WORK WITH OUR OTHER AGENCIES AND, AND CONTINUE TO ADDRESS IT. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE AND ALL OF YOUR FOLKS, UH, KUDOS TO, TO EVERYBODY. SO WE, WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL. ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY ON THIS ONE? I JUST WANNA ECHO SOME OF THE COMMENTS. I THINK YOU'RE DOING AN AMAZING JOB AND WE HAVE A GREAT POLICE FORCE AND WE HAVE A GREAT FIRE DEPARTMENT AND IT'S REALLY, IT'S NICE TO BE PROUD OF BOTH OF Y'ALL. SO GOOD JOB. THAT'S RIGHT. ALRIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU CHIEF. APPRECIATE IT. [c. Present and discuss updates to ordinances regarding taxicabs and sleeping in public and the addition of a new ordinance to address parking issues at the Police and Courts facility and Fire Station 1.] ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX C. PRESENTED, DISCUSS UPDATES TO ORDINANCES REGARDING TAXI CABS AND SLEEPING IN PUBLIC. AND THE ADDITION OF A NEW ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS PARKING ISSUES AT THE POLICE AND COURTS FACILITY. AND FIRE STATION ONE, CHIEF FREEZE. WELCOME BACK. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CHRIS FREEZE, CHIEF OF POLICE. I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK. UM, I'M HERE TO DISCUSS, UM, SOME UPDATES TO OUR CURRENT CITY ORDINANCES. UM, THE FIRST BEING WE'RE RECOMMENDING REPEALING THE CURRENT TAXI CAB ORDINANCE. THE CURRENT ORDINANCE IS APPROXIMATELY 40 YEARS OLD. UM, RIDESHARE APPS ARE MUCH MORE COMMON THAN TAXI CABS NOW. UM, AT THE TIME WE PRESENT, UH, MADE THIS PRESENTATION, WE HAD ISSUED LESS THAN 10 PERMITS. WE HAVE NOT ISSUED A PERMIT IN THE LAST YEAR. UM, WE'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY IN BUYING THE PAPER 'CAUSE EVERY YEAR THEY CHANGE THE PERMITS CHANGE THAN WE AREN'T ACTUALLY ISSUING PERMIT FEES. UM, SO THIS WOULD JUST BE A RECOMMENDATION TO REPEAL THE CURRENT TAXI CAB ORDINANCE ALTOGETHER. UM, AND THERE'S THREE OF THESE. I'LL GO IN AND WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS. UM, BUT AF UH, WE CAN COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE IF, IF THE COUNSEL WISHES TO GO. SO, UH, AFTER THE PRESENTATION, UH, THE NEXT ONE IS UPDATING OUR, UH, SLEEPING IN PUBLIC ORDINANCE. AGAIN, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED 40 YEARS AGO. UM, THERE HAVE BEEN CONCERNS OF THE, THE CURRENT VAGUENESS OF THE ORDINANCE. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW PUBLIC CAMPING HAS BECOME AN INCREASING PROBLEM IN AND AROUND THE DFW AREA. UM, SO THE CURRENT UPDATE, UH, PROVIDES A DEFINITION FOR CAMP AND SHELTER. UH, IT PROHIBITS CAMPING ON ANY PROPERTY OWNED, MANAGED AND OR CONTROLLED BY THE TOWN, INCLUDING PARKS. UH, IT PROHIBITS CAMPING AND SLEEPING ON ANY PRIVATE PROPERTY WITH FIRST, WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING PERMISSION OF THE OWNER. AND JUST AS A CAVEAT, THIS DOES NOT AFFECT THE CURRENT ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE THAT, UH, SPEAK TO PANHANDLING, UM, FROM THE RIGHT OFS OR THE ROADWAYS. AND THE THIRD ORDINANCE WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS CREATING A NEW ORDINANCE, UH, TO KIND OF HELP THE PARKING CHALLENGES AT THE CURRENT POLICE DEPARTMENT LOCATION AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LOCATION. UH, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE, ESPECIALLY ON COURT DAYS. UM, A LOT OF TIMES NON PD AND COURT RELATED VISITORS OR USING THE PARKING LOTS TO CONDUCT OTHER BUSINESS. SO THE NEW ORDINANCE WOULD CREATE A TWO HOUR VISITOR PARKING SPACE AND THEN PROHIBIT PARKING IF NOT THERE TO DO, TO CONDUCT OFFICIAL POLICE OR FIRE BUSINESS. AND AGAIN, WE CAN ADOPT THE NEW ORDINANCE AND BRING IT FORWARD AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING FOR ADOPTION. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. CHIEF QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY SPECIFICS ON THE TWO HOUR VISITOR PARKING SPACES IS, THAT'S GONNA BE A PORTION OF THE SPACES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUT FRONT OF THE COURTS BUILDING? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE LABELED. SO WOULD THEY ALL BE TWO HOUR VISITOR? NO, NO. THEY, YOU WOULD HAVE SPECIFIC TWO HOUR VISITOR PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND THEN YOU WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE RESERVED SPOTS FOR STAFF RESERVE SPOTS FOR STAFF. OKAY. AND SO YOU COULDN'T PARK THERE AND GO WORK AT SOME OTHER BUSINESS STEPS AWAY. UM, CORRECT. IN ANY OF THOSE SPACES OVER THERE? YES SIR. JUST FOR TWO HOURS? YES, SIR. OKAY. GOT IT. THANKS RANDY. IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT DOES OUR TAX ORDINANCE SAY IN A NUTSHELL IN JUST IN A NUTSHELL? I MEAN, IT IS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A RIDE FOR HIRE, WE WOULD, WE FOLLOW THE DALLAS ORDINANCE THAT THEY'VE, I BELIEVE THEY'VE REPEALED TO WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO AND PAY A FEE AND GET A PERMIT TO OPERATE. AND IF YOU'RE OPERATING IN VIOLATION OF THAT, YOU COULD RECEIVE A A FINE. THAT'S WHAT OUR SAYS NOW THAT WE'RE WANTING TO REPEAL. YES. AND WHAT, WHAT ARE WE WANTING TO REPEAL IT TO? NOTHING. JUST, YOU CAN RUN A TAXI CAB IN ADDISON. WELL, THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY TAXI CABS RUNNING AROUND. UM, BUT IF THEY WANTED TO, IT'S THE SAME AS WE DON'T REGULATE RIDE SHARE WHETHER WE HAVE UBER. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT. I MEAN, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY UBER CAN RUN UP AND DOWN THE STREETS IN A TAXI CAB CAB THAT THAT'S, I FULLY SUPPORT THAT. THAT'S THE PREMISE BEHIND IT IS WE'RE NOT REGULATING UBERS AND LISTS. WHY ARE WE TRYING TO REGULATE AN ACTUAL COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT. THANK YOU FOR EVEN CONSIDERING THOSE ORDINANCES. UH, THE OTHER QUESTION ON THE CAMPING, DOES LIVING UNDERNEATH AN AWNING AT A ABANDONED LIQUOR STORE COUNT FOR CAMPING? THAT WOULD COUNT AS CAMPING. OKAY. YES SIR. THANK YOU SIR. GREAT. MARLON. YEAH. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR, CHIEF. UH, GREAT WORK. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. UM, SO AS FAR AS SLEEPING ON ANY PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHAT DO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? ANYTHING? SO, YEAH, SO OUR, IF YOU LIKE, OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE AS, [03:35:01] AS IT STANDS IS NO PERSON SHALL SLEEP OR DOZE IN A STREET, ALLEY PARK OR OTHER PUBLIC PLACE OR IN ANY VACANT LOT ADJOINING A PUBLIC STREET OR HIGHWAY WITHOUT THE EFFECTIVE CONSENT OF THE OWNER OF THE VACANT LOT AS OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE. IT'S A VERY BROAD IN SCOPE AND WHAT, UM, WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS TO DEFINE THE TERM CAMP, WHICH MEANS TO RESIDE TEMPORARILY IN PLACE WITH THE SHELTER AND THEN TO FURTHER DEFINE SHELTER, WHICH MEANS THE TERM SHELTER INCLUDES A TENT LEAN-TO SLEEPING BAG, BED ROLL BLANKETS, OR ANY FORM OF TEMPORARY SEMI-PERMANENT OR PERMANENT STRUCTURE OR COVERING OTHER THAN CLOTHING OR ANY HANDHELD DEVICE DESIGNED TO PROTECT A PERSON FROM WEATHER CONDITIONS THAT THREATEN PERSONAL HEALTH AND SAFETY. A MOTOR VEHICLE MAY NOT BE USED FOR ITS, OR A MOTOR VEHICLE NOT BEING USED FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSE AS A MODE OF TRANSPORTATION, BUT AS A PLACE TO RESIDE IS CONSIDERED SHELTER. SO REALLY NARROWING DOWN WHAT IS DEFINED AS CAMPING AND SHELTER. OKAY. UM, AND HOW LONG DO YOU EXPECT THIS TO TAKE BEFORE IT COULD COME BEFORE BACK TO US WITH FOR APPROVAL? I CAN, WE CAN HAVE IT ON THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. THAT'D BE GREAT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. YEAH. CHRIS, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON ENFORCEMENT FOR THE UPDATED SLEEPING IN PUBLIC ORDINANCE. I MEAN, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU SEE THAT THAT WILL BE ENFORCED? IS IT JUST ASKING SOMEONE TO LEAVE AND NOW WE HAVE A REASON TO ASK THEM TO LEAVE? UH, WOULD YOU ARREST THEM? WOULD YOU GET, UM, SO MERE SERVICES INVOLVED? YES SIR. AS WITH ALL OF OUR UM, ENFORCEMENT OFFICER DISCRETION, UM, WE WOULD LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE INDIVIDUAL. WHAT'S THE INDIVIDUAL DOING? UH, WE REALLY WANT TO GET, IT ALSO DEPENDS ON WHAT THAT INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES, DO THEY NEED HELP, THEY NEED TO BE TRANSPORTED SOMEWHERE OR IS IT SOMEBODY THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH MULTIPLE TIMES AND THEY JUST, THEY NEED TO GO OUT OF THE TOWN, UM, THROUGH OTHER MEANS. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU HOWARD. SO THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE TO MY ATTENTION. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OFFICIALLY, BUT, UH, PEOPLE USING HAMMOCKS IN THE PARKS, IS THAT THE PROBLEM, SLEEPING ON HAMMOCKS OR WILL THAT BE PART OF THIS TO ELIMINATE SLEEPING ON HAMMOCKS TOO? I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR CURRENT PARK ORDINANCE TO SEE WHERE THAT WOULD FALL. THIS IS BEING BROUGHT FORTH NOT FROM INDIVIDUALS LIKE SLEEPING IN THE PARK ON A HAMMOCK, BUT MORE OF INDIVIDUALS SLEEPING IN VACANT LOTS, SLEEPING UNDERNEATH, UNDERPASSES, SLEEPING, UM, BUILDINGS THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY OCCUPIED, TRYING TO PUT UP SHELTERS IN, UM, THE AREAS WHERE THE, UH, DUMPSTERS ARE THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THAT'S MORE OF WHAT THIS IS ADDRESSING. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT THOUGH, HOWARD, I MEAN, IT, IT WOULD NEED TO BE CLARIFIED I THINK, FOR US TO SEE. UH, 'CAUSE IF YOU'RE SLEEPING ON A HAMMOCK, IT'S KIND OF COOL TO SLEEP ON A HAMMOCK. IT'S KIND OF FUN. BUT HOW DIFFERENT IS THAT FROM SLEEPING ON, ON A PARK BENCH? YES SIR. DARREN. UM, SO THE, YOU READ THE ORDINANCE ABOUT SLEEPING AND DOSING. UM, WILL THAT LANGUAGE STAY IN THERE ALSO? YES. SO THE, THE CURRENT LANGUAGE, UM, I FEEL LIKE REAL QUICK IT WOULD BE, IT'S UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON TO CAMP OR SLEEP ON ANY PROPERTY OWNED, MANAGED AND OR CONTROLLED BY THE TOWN, INCLUDING PARKS, PARKING LOTS, BUILDINGS, FIELDS, ADDISON AIRPORT PROPERTY, SIDEWALK STREETS AND RIGHT OF WAY OF PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AS DEFINED BY ORDINANCE, EVEN WHEN INSIDE OF A MOTOR VEHICLE. UM, AND THEN ALSO IT WOULD BE UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON TO CAMP OR SLEEP ON ANY PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING PERMISSION FROM THE OWNER. OR AT LEAST HE OF SUCH PROPERTY EVEN WENT INSIDE OF A MOTOR VEHICLE. SO, SO LET'S GO THROUGH THE SLEEPING AND DOZING PART, THE LANGUAGE ON THAT AGAIN. I THOUGHT YOU HAD THAT. YEAH, SO CURRENTLY IT IS NO PERSON SHALL SLEEP OR DOZE IN A STREET ALLEY PARK OR ANY PUBLIC PLACE OR ANY VACANT LOT ADJOINING A PUBLIC STREET OR HIGHWAY. SO, SO THAT LANGUAGE WILL STAY IN THERE TO SLEEP OR DOSE OR WE WOULD UPDATE TO THE CURRENT, UH, THE, TO THE NEW RECOMMENDED LANGUAGE OF SLEEP IN THE CAMPING. YEAH. SLEEP. MM-HMM . OKAY. WANNA MAKE SURE IT STILL INCLUDES SLEEP. YEAH, IT STILL, AND I DO SEE THE CONFLICT WITH SLEEPING ON A HAMMOCK IN A PARK AND FRANKLY THERE'S PEOPLE THAT YOU WANT SLEEPING IN THE HANG HAMMOCK AND THERE'S PEOPLE YOU DON'T WANT SLEEPING IN THE HAMMOCK. AND THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER, UM, PROBLEM OF THE DIFFERENCE OF THOSE TWO. THEN WITHIN THE STRUCTURE. CHIEF, JUST TO CLARIFY, 'CAUSE I WOULD, I ALWAYS MESMERIZE ME AS THAT THE, UH, TARGETS AND THE KROGER'S ARE MORE, MORE UPSET ABOUT THEIR SHOPPING CARTS. THAT INCLUDES SHOPPING CARTS, CORRECT. AS PART OF A STRUCTURE. IT'S BUILDING A STRUCTURE, YES. OKAY. ANYTHING THAT COULD PROVIDE SHELTER. YEAH. AND THIS ALSO GOES TO THE, UM, I GUESS YOU'D CALL 'EM STAIRWELLS TO UM, UH, WHAT THEY CALL 'EM PARKING GARAGES. RIGHT? THAT'S ALSO IN THAT ORDINANCE. YES, SIR. AND THAT WOULD ALSO FALL BACK ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. THEY WOULD NEED THE EFFECTIVE CONSENT OF THE OWNER. YEAH. WONDERFUL. PLEASE BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL. THANK YOU SIR. RANDY, HOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCEMENT OR IS THIS THROUGH CRIMINAL TRESPASS WARNINGS OR WHAT'S THE MOTIVE OF ENFORCING? SO THIS WOULD BE AN ORDINANCE VIOLATION. UM, AN ORDINANCE. AN ORDINANCE VIOLATION. ORDINANCE VIOLATION. OKAY. SO, WHICH IS A REGULAR ATION. SO WE CAN BYPASS JUST THE [03:40:01] TRESPASSING WARNING AND HAVE TO GET THE OWNER TO COME OUT AND DO A TRESPASS ON IT. YES. YEAH. THIS WOULD BE AN ACTUAL CITY ORDINANCE VIOLATION. I LIKE THAT MUCH BETTER, SIR. UM, WHAT DID YOU SAY A ABOUT I HAVE A HUGE CONCERN IN TOWN WITH PEOPLE IN ADDISON. THEY COME INTO ADDISON AND ASSAULT OR HARASS SOMEONE IN A PARKING LOT OR A RESTAURANT IN ADDISON AND THEN THEY RUN TO THE MEDIAN IN THE MIDDLE OF BELTLINE ROAD AND THEY'RE IN DALLAS. HOW HAVE WE ADDRESSED THAT AND HOW ARE WE GONNA CONTINUE TO, WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT THAT? THEY KNOW, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND YOU CALL AND THEY'LL SAY, I'LL JUST GO OUT THERE AND THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO ME. YEAH. SO FEW DIFFERENT WAYS. ONE, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE OFFENSE WAS, THEY COMMITTED AN ADDISON. UM, WAS IT MORE THAN JUST A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR? DID THEY THREATEN SOMEBODY? DID THEY ASSAULT SOMEBODY? IF THAT'S THE CASE, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE THEY GO. WE CAN GET A VICTIM STATEMENT, WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. UM, IF THEY'RE PANHANDLING OR ASKING FOR MONEY, YOU CALL 9 1 1. OBVIOUSLY BY THE TIME THE OFFICER GETS THERE, THEY'RE IN DALLAS, WE CAN GO TALK WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS. WE'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH DALLAS PD. WE CONTACT THEM A LOT. YEAH. UM, ESPECIALLY SHARING A BORDER, UM, WE, AND AGAIN, GOING BACK TO JUST THE, THE WORK THAT OUR TEAM DOES AND BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. SO ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE DALLAS COME OUT, UM, ONCE THEY'RE IN DALLAS AND HELP ADDRESS THE ISSUE. UM, OUR OFFICERS ARE ALSO REALLY GOOD WITH GOING AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE EVEN IF THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF ADDISON. UM, AGAIN, TRYING TO APPROACH THAT SPECIFIC INCIDENT MULTIPLE WAYS. 'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING. WE WANT THE PEOPLE IN ADDISON TO FEEL SAFE AND NOT BE BOTHERED AS MUCH AS WE CAN. PERFECT. WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THE CARDBOARD CONDOMINIUM? THAT, THAT IS A CONSTANT ISSUE ON ARAPAHOE IN THE TOLLWAY. WE, THAT IS A, AGAIN, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH DALLAS AND THEIR OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS WITH, UM, MULTIPLE TIMES. UM, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM. UM, WE'LL CONTINUE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT. UM, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THAT IS NOT BEING IN ADDISON AND US NOT BEING ABLE TO GO AND DO THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AND WORKING WITH EXTERNAL PARTNERS, BUT AGAIN, WORKING THROUGH IT AND ADDRESSING THOSE THE BEST WE CAN. IT SEEMS LIKE SOMEONE CLEANS IT UP OR HE GO, IT GOES AWAY IN 48 HOURS. IT'S, IT'S BACK BIGGER THAN EVER. SO, I MEAN THAT'S JUST AN EYESORE FOR US THERE. ONE OTHER REAL QUICK ONE, WE HAVE A BUSINESS IN TOWN THAT HAS A SECOND FLOOR THAT I LOVE TO GO HAVE LUNCH AT AND GO UPSTAIRS AND HAVE, HAVE EAT MY LUNCH UP THERE. I NEVER GO UP THERE THAT THERE'S NOT A COUPLE OF GUYS SLEEPING IN A BOOTH UP THERE, WHICH, WELL, I I'LL GET WITH YOU. YEAH. IT, IT, IT, IT IT'S A VERY HIGH-END GROCERY STORE. OKAY. UH, IN TOWN THAT SERVICED VERY GOOD FOOD TO BE ABLE TO EAT AT LUNCH. AND I, I WAS THERE TODAY HAVING LUNCH AND THERE WAS TWO IN THERE SLEEPING IN THEIR BOOTH AND HAD NO DRINK, HAD NO, HAD NO PRODUCT FROM THE STORE THERE. SO HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT? THAT WOULD BE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE BUSINESS. I GET THAT. AND THE BUSINESS HAVING BEEN, MIGHT NOT JUST BE WILLING TO DO IT TRESPASS ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT, IT'S NOT A COMFORTABLE FEELING. THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A TABLE FULL OF WHAT APPEARED TO BE HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS SITTING THERE AND THEY WERE NOT COMFORTABLE THERE, BUT, SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT ADDRESSED THERE SOMEHOW. THANK YOU, MARLON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. SO TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, IF I READ THIS CORRECTLY, WOULD THIS, THIS UPDATE TO THESE ORDINANCES, BECAUSE THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT WOULD SHORE UP, UH, THAT THAT PROBLEM. SO IF SOMEBODY CALLED, CALLED IN THIS SITUATION TO OUR, OUR POLICE OFFICERS, UM, WOULD THIS NEW ORDINANCE, UH, ALLOW THEM TO, TO TAKE SOME TYPE OF ACTION? OR HOW WOULD THAT COULD, HOW WOULD THAT WORK? BECAUSE IF WE COULD PROVE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE EFFECTIVE CONSENT OF THE OWNER OR THE, WELL WHAT'S THE WORDING? I MEAN, WHAT'S THE, UH, IT'S NOT PERMIT YOU SAID. UH, SOME TYPE OF PERMISSION FROM THE, SO THEY HAVE TO FIRST OBTAIN PERMISSION FROM THE OWNER OR LEASEE OF SUCH PROPERTY, SOME TYPE OF RENTING. IT WOULD BE AS SIMPLE AS THROUGH THE INVESTIGATION PROCESS. HEY, DID YOU GET PERMISSION TO DO THIS? OR GOING AND FINDING SOMEBODY THAT HAS AUTHORITY OVER THAT BUSINESS. HEY, DOES THIS PERSON HAVE PERMISSION TO SLEEP HERE? OKAY. THE ANSWER IS NO, THEN THEY'RE NOT. AND SO IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE PERMISSION, THEN, THEN WHAT WOULD OUR POLICE OFFICERS DO WOULD BE, THEY'D BE IN VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE. AND WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN? A AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION, IT COULD BE, THEY COULD BE ISSUED A CITATION, THEY COULD BE ARRESTED, THEY COULD BE ASKED TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY. UM, WE HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS OF, UH, WHENEVER THERE'S A VIOLATION IN FRONT, OFFICERS STILL HAVE DISCRETION OF HOW THEY WANNA RESPOND TO THAT SPECIFIC SITUATION. THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD TAKE SOME FORM OF ACTION OTHER THAN THEY WOULD TAKE FUNCTION OTHER, WOULD THEY, WOULD THEY JUST TO OFFER A WARNING AGAIN, UH, OFFICER DISCRETION. UM, THEY COULD GIVE A WARNING. THEY COULD GIVE A CITATION. THEY COULD MAKE AN ARREST. OKAY. SO I DON'T WANT TO CUT THE DISCUSSION SHORT, UH, BUT THERE ARE THUNDERSTORMS JUST ABOUT TO JUST LEAP ALL OVER US RIGHT NOW. SO I'D LIKE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT HERE. IS EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE ORDINANCES? AM MAYOR? YEP. YES. YES. OKAY [03:45:01] SIR. THANK YOU CHIEF. ALRIGHT, IT IS 9 42 AND WE WILL ADJOURN FOR THE NIGHT. THANKS EVERYBODY AND BE SAFE OUT THERE, SIR. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.