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[1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present]
8:44 AM AND, UH, WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS, UH, ADDISON STRATEGIC PLAN MEETING OF THIS ADDISON CITY COUNCIL.AND IT IS, UH, FRIDAY, THE 30TH OF JANUARY.
AND, UH, GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.
AND WE HAVE A NICE, FULL PRODUCTIVE DAY AHEAD OF US.
AND, UH, I HOPE WE'LL HAVE, I KNOW WE'LL HAVE SOME GOOD DISCUSSION.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, NICK HERE TO LEAD US THROUGH THAT.
UH, DAVID, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY BEFORE WE GET STARTED? JUST A COUPLE WORDS.
WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE AT A CU AND, UM, TO USE THIS GREAT FACILITY AGAIN.
UH, THIS WILL BE NICK'S THIRD TIME WITH US.
UH, HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB SO FAR.
I KNOW THIS WILL BE A, A GREAT SESSION FOR EVERYBODY.
I KNOW WE'VE ALSO HAD A LOT OF TIME TOGETHER OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, SO THANK YOU TO COUNCIL FOR SPENDING THIS EXTRA TIME.
UM, AS WE ALL KNOW, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF WHAT WE DO EVERY SINGLE YEAR AS WE GO THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR BUDGET AND OTHERWISE.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
I KNOW EVERYONE WILL TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
UM, I WILL TELL YOU, YOU'LL SEE WE JUMP STRAIGHT IN.
WE JUMP STRAIGHT INTO THE MATERIAL AND, UM, AND, AND HOPE WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE STAFF HERE AS WE GO, AS APPROPRIATE STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS TO INTERACT AND, AND SOME OF THE EXERCISES THAT WE DO.
UH, ONE PIECE OF HOUSEKEEPING, IF YOU COULD JUST, WHENEVER YOU SPEAK, MAKE SURE YOU HIT THE GREEN BUTTON ON YOUR MIC.
IT'S NOT TO AMPLIFY IN THE ROOM, BUT FOR THE RECORDING SO WE CAN ENSURE EVERYONE'S HEARD ON THE RECORDING.
[2. Strategic Planning Session]
I WILL HAND IT OVER TO NICK TO GET STARTED.AND I WANT TO RE RE ECHO THAT COMMENT, WHICH IS TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TIME OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FEW WEEKS TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE THOSE ONE-ON-ONES FOR THE TIME FILLING OUT THE SURVEY.
IT HELPS ME GAIN SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY, AND I APPRECIATE THE HONOR AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE BACK AGAIN FOR MY THIRD TIME.
SO, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO SOME ROBUST DISCUSSION.
UH, MY GOAL TODAY IS TO HELP US GET WHERE WE NEED TO GO IN TERMS OF STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD IN A PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME GREAT CONVERSATIONS TODAY.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE HAVE SOME ALIGNMENT.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE HAVE SOME MISALIGNMENT, MIGHT BE THE OPPORTUNITY, BUT I THINK THE CONVERSATIONS WE'LL HAVE TODAY WILL HELP FLESH SOME OF THAT OUT.
AND MY HOPE IS THAT WE'RE GONNA GAIN SOME ACTION.
AS, AS DAVID MENTIONED, THIS IS THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND THE GUIDING DOCUMENTS THAT ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE CITY IN ACHIEVING THE OUTCOMES THAT COUNCIL WISHES TO SEE.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA GET INTO SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS TODAY.
UH, WITH THAT SAID, I'M GONNA JUMP RIGHT INTO IT, SO, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE A GOOD TIME ALONG THE WAY OR FEEL FREE TO DO THAT WHEN I'M DONE EITHER WAY.
UH, BUT WITH THAT SAID, LET'S GET INTO IT HERE.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF A REMINDER, THE ELEMENTS OF A STRONG STRATEGIC PLAN.
YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE NOT, THIS IS BASICALLY THE ELEMENTS OF A STRATEGIC PLAN AND WHERE WE'RE INTENDING TO LIVE AT TODAY, WHICH IS, UH, OUR KEY FOCUS AREAS AND OUR STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES.
SO THAT IS OUR GOAL TODAY, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY GOT THOSE AS LOCKED DOWN AS WE CAN GET THEM.
UH, THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF, OF THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INITIATIVES.
THAT'S WHERE STAFF COMES BACK AND SAYS, HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO ACCOMPLISH.
SO YOU ARE THE, WHAT, WHAT WOULD WE LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN HERE? AND YOU GAVE US SOME GREAT COMMENTS WHEN, UH, THE VISION FOR THE FUTURE OF THE COMMUNITY AND SOME OF THOSE.
BUT WE'RE NOT GOING AFTER MISSION VISION VALUES.
WE'RE NOT GOING AFTER INITIATIVES AND MEASURES, ALTHOUGH STAFF WILL BE HERE TO MAKE SURE IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC COMMENTS, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CAPTURE THOSE AS WELL.
ALONG THE WAY, WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE KEY FOCUS AREAS AND THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES.
AFTER THAT, WE CAN GET INTO SOME OTHER TOPICS TOO.
THESE ARE THE OTHER WAYS THAT WE GO ABOUT BUILDING IN A STRONG STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH ARE THINGS LIKE FUNDING AND STAFF.
WE DO THAT RESOURCE ALLOCATION PART, UH, PLAN IMPLEMENTATION.
SO COLLECTING THE DATA, ARE WE SUCCESSFUL WITH WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO? THAT'S THE EXECUTION PHASE, WHICH WAS A CLEAR, A CLEAR INDICATOR COMING OUT OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU ALL IS THAT WE'RE IN AN EXECUTION PHASE.
WE ARE, WE'RE BIG ON THE EXECUTION AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ACHIEVING THE VISION AND THE THINGS THAT WERE STATED THERE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, ASSESSING THE PROGRESS AND SHARING THE RESULTS, THAT ACCOUNTABILITY AND GOING BACK TO THE PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT IS WE'RE DOING, HOW WE'RE DOING WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BUILDING THAT TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.
SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF ELEMENTS.
AGAIN, THESE TWO GREEN AREAS ARE WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON TODAY FOR THESE DISCUSSIONS.
UM, A LITTLE BIT OF THE DEFINITION SPACE, JUST SO WE HAVE SOME CLARITY AROUND THAT FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT NEED IT.
THESE ARE THE 3, 7, 3 TO SEVEN WORDS OR PHRASES THAT WE BUILD AROUND.
AND SO THESE ARE HOW WE CLUSTER OUR CONCEPTS AND IDEAS THAT WE BUILD AROUND THOSE THINGS.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES, THE GOALS TO HAVE THREE TO SEVEN OF THOSE PER FOCUS AREA.
UM, I BELIEVE WE MAY, I THINK WE'RE EXACTLY ON THAT WITH MAYBE ONE OR TWO OF THEM.
SO WE'RE RIGHT UP ON IT WITH WHERE WE'D LIKE TO BE.
ULTIMATELY, WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30 TO 40 STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES TOTAL.
AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S JOB IS REFLECTED SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE FUNCTIONS THAT WE'RE PERFORMING AS A CITY ARE REFLECTED SOMEWHERE IN THE PLAN ITSELF, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH FINANCIAL EXCELLENCE OR ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S REFLECTED AS WELL.
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UM, WITH THAT SAID, INITIATIVES AND PROJECTS, THAT'S MAYBE A LEVEL BELOW THE DISCUSSION WE'RE GONNA HAVE TODAY, BUT THOSE ARE MORE SPECIFIC THINGS.THAT IS HOW WE ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE US ACCOMPLISH.
AND SO THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THAT REFRESHER RIGHT HERE.
SO AGAIN, MODIFYING KEY FOCUS AREAS IF NEEDED.
UH, REFINING OUR STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES UNDER THE KEY FOCUS AREAS, REMOVING OR ADDING, MODIFYING IF NECESSARY.
I CAPTURED ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS RELATED TO MODIFICATIONS.
IF I MISS SOMETHING, KEEP ME INTELLECTUALLY HONEST AND SAY, HEY, YOU MISSED THIS.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT AS A PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
UM, THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE IS TODAY IS THE DAY TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
SO, UH, SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PIECES.
I THINK MAYBE ONE OF THE WAYS TO SAY IT, BUT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU TODAY WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY REGARDING ANY ONE OF THE INITIATIVES.
THIS IS YOUR TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, THOUGHTS, THIS IS THE TIME TO BRING 'EM UP.
AND THAT'S MY HOPE IS THAT WE'RE HAVING A ROBUST DISCUSSION AROUND THAT SO THAT WE'RE LANDING IN A GOOD PLACE MOVING FORWARD.
UH, WITH THAT SAID AGAIN, THE STRATEGIC PLAN INITIATIVES, KEY FOCUS AREAS, STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES, INITIATIVES.
THESE ARE THE KIND OF LAYERS THAT WE'RE GETTING INTO.
I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THIS, AND I'M GONNA SKIP THROUGH THIS RELATIVELY QUICKLY, BUT 18 COMPLETED INITIATIVES HERE IN THE LAST YEAR ON THE PLAN.
AND SO THERE ARE A CONTINUATION AND THAT MAKES SENSE.
THERE'S SOME WORK THAT IS ONGOING WORK, SO THAT'S STILL THERE AS WELL.
AND THEN THERE WERE 16 NEW INITIATIVES ADDED.
SO THE IDEA OF HERE BEING THAT AS INITIATIVES SUNSET OFF THE PLAN, WE'RE ADDING NEW INITIATIVES BACK INTO CONTINUE PROGRESS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REFLECTED, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REFLECTED ON YOUR WEBSITE, BY THE WAY.
I THINK YOU DO AN EXCELLENT JOB.
AND I REFERENCE ADDISON WITH A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES I WORK WITH.
YOUR VISUALIZATIONS RELATED TO THE PROGRESS MADE ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, I THINK IS IS ONE OF THE BEST I'VE EVER SEEN ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND AGAIN, I'VE WORKED WITH ABOUT 130 DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT I REFERENCE YOU ALL AS AN EXAMPLE.
'CAUSE YOU DO A GREAT JOB UPDATING ON THE PROGRESS.
HERE'S THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY.
UM, BUT WE'RE MAKING A LOT OF PROGRESS.
AND I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSCORE THAT THESE ARE THE INITIATIVES THAT WERE FINISHED, THE 18 INITIATIVES THAT WERE, UH, TAKEN OFF THE PLAN BECAUSE THEY WERE COMPLETED.
UM, SO AGAIN, YOU'LL HAVE O UH, OPPORTUNITY AND ACCESS TO THESE SLIDES AS WELL.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW THIS, I IMAGINE MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE.
IF YOU HAVEN'T, YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THE POWERPOINT ITSELF TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK THROUGH SPECIFIC INITIATIVES.
BUT 18 OF THESE COMPLETED, THESE WERE THE 16 THAT WERE ADDED, AND AGAIN, WE COMPLETED THE 16, UH, COMPLETED, THE 1873 ROLLING OVER 16 ADDED.
SO WE'RE CONTINUING THAT EVOLUTION.
AGAIN, IT'S AN EVER EVOLVING PLAN, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WANT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS AS WELL.
UM, GETTING INTO THIS, I WANNA REMIND US WHAT IS THE STRATEGIC PLAN? WHAT DO WE HAVE IN HERE? SO HERE ARE THE KEY FOCUS AREAS AND STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES AS THEY WERE MOST RECENTLY ADOPTED.
SO I WANT TO GIVE US A CHANCE TO KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I NEED TO READ ALL OF THESE.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK THROUGH THESE.
SO WE'LL START HERE AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO READ IT.
WE'LL GET INTO THE NEXT SECTION AND THE NEXT SECTION, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON WITH THE CONVERSATION HERE.
SO BEN, OUR KEY FOCUS AREA, PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE'VE GOT FIVE DIFFERENT STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES UNDER THAT.
CAN I, UH, ASK A QUESTION? YES, SIR.
FOR CLARIFYING, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE OF WHAT THIS IS FOR.
UM, WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND JUST CORRECT ME, WHAT WHEN I'M NOT ON THE RIGHT COURSE, UM, THAT THIS STRATEGIC PLAN IS, IS AN ANNUAL DIRECTION FOR THE STAFF TO GO EXECUTE.
AND THAT STARTS, UM, THIS CAUSES WHAT WE COME OUT OF TODAY, CAUSES THE STAFF TO BUILD A BUDGET AND START TOOLING TO, TO, AND FOR US TO, UH, ADOPT A BUDGET THAT REFLECTS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH HERE AND THEN THEY START ON OCTOBER 1ST.
SO YES, THAT IS THE MOST KIND OF DIRECT IMPACT IS, OR IMMEDIATE IMPACT IS AS WE ARE ABOUT TO START THE BUDGET PROCESS, IT HELPS US TO COPE WITH WHAT THOSE DECISION PACKAGES COULD BE.
CHANGES, COULD BE ALTERATIONS, COULD BE, UM, BUT IT ALSO HAS A BIGGER IMPACT THAN JUST THAT.
I MEAN, AS YOU LOOK AT THE INITIATIVES, IT'S MORE THAN JUST AN ANNUAL BUDGET.
IT'S ALSO MORE ARE WE GONNA FOCUS ON.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE'RE GONNA BE, WE CONSTANTLY BRING PROJECTS, IDEAS, UH, TO COUNCIL AND FOR YOUR DIRECTION.
AT THAT POINT, COUNCIL CAN DECIDE, WE WANNA DO THIS OR NOT, OR NOT DO THIS PROJECT OR NOT DO THIS PROJECT.
BUT AS WE ARE COMING UP WITH THOSE BEFORE WE BRINGING THE COUNCIL, THIS IS THE PLAN THAT LETS US KNOW, IS THIS SOMETHING WE SHOULD EVEN BE WORKING ON AT THIS POINT? HOW DOES IT ALIGN WITH THE PLAN? ARE WE, HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING EVERY DAY ALIGNS WITH WHAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS US TO BE DOING? AND I THINK THEN YOU'LL SEE THAT COME TO FRUITION WITH THE, THE PROJECTS, THE BUDGET THAT COMES BEFORE YOU.
BUT I WANNA SAY AT THAT TIME, THE COUNCIL COULD NOT WANNA DO THAT, COULD NOT, COULD DECIDE TO GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
BUT THAT'S WHY THIS DOCUMENT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT HELPS US TO KNOW WHAT DO WE WANT TO, WHAT DO WE BRING FORWARD TO COUNCIL AT BUDGET
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OR OTHERWISE, RIGHT? RIGHT.AND THERE'S A LONG TIMEFRAME FROM NOW UNTIL BUDGET, UNTIL WE START, UNTIL THE ANNUAL, THE NEW ANNUAL FISCAL STARTS IS OCTOBER 1ST.
UM, AND I DO UNDERSTAND, AND JUST MY COLLEAGUES HOPEFULLY THAT THIS IS NOT JUST THIS ANNUAL, BUT SOME OF THE, SOME THINGS ARE VERY ANNUAL FOCUSED AND CERTAINLY IT DRIVES THE BUDGET, BUT IT IS BEYOND, UH, THIS YEAR IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A COUPLE YEARS OUT WHERE SOME OF THEM, AND MAYBE EVEN LONGER TERM FOREVER, UH, UH, FOR THAT MATTER.
UM, SO THE KEY FOCUS AREAS ARE ALL MORE, UH, FOUNDATIONAL IS WHAT KIND OF I GET OUT OF THAT.
JUST WANT TO, TO, UH, MAKE SURE I HAD THAT CLEAR AND, AND HAVE IT OPEN FOR ANYBODY ELSE TO A ASK ANY QUESTIONS ON HOW THIS, WHAT THIS MEANS AND WHAT THIS DOES.
CAN YOU GO BACK TWO SLIDES? UH, MAYBE THERE'S A THIRD ONE THERE.
SO YOUR A HUNDRED PLUS CITIES YOU TRAVEL TO ANNUALLY AND MEET AND DO THE EXACT SAME THING.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE NUMBERS OF 73 CONTINUED CARRIED OVER INITIATIVES AND 18 COMPLETED, IS THAT A GOOD RATIO FROM WHAT YOU EXPERIENCED YEAR OVER YEAR FROM CITY TO CITY? ARE WE BEHIND OR AHEAD OR RIGHT ON PAR? I, I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE AHEAD.
IN ALL HONESTY, THE THE, THE TYPE OF INITIATIVE THAT'S BEING SUNSETTED MATTERS A GREAT DEAL, OF COURSE.
RIGHT? BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF WE'VE GOT SPECIFIC INITIATIVES, SOME OF THESE ARE INCREDIBLY LARGE IN SCALE AND SCOPE, SO IT'S REALLY THE SIZE AND THE SCALE AND THE SCOPE.
BUT HAVING TAKEN A LOOK THROUGH YOUR INITIATIVES, YOU HAVE CROSSED OFF SOME PRETTY BIG THINGS OFF THE LIST, WHICH IS WHY I REFERENCE YOU AS AN EXAMPLE, BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT SMALL THINGS THAT ARE COMING OFF.
SOME ARE THE MAJORITY ARE LARGE.
UM, SO I'LL SAY THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON PAR OR ABOVE IT, IN MY OPINION.
UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT I'VE SEEN WHEN I WORK WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, LOTS OF TIMES THEY HAVE A LOT OF THESE ROLLOVERS THAT CONTINUE TO HAPPEN AND THERE'S NO, WHAT I'LL SAY MEANINGFUL PROGRESS BEING MADE IN SOMETHING THAT'S A DEMONSTRABLE WAY.
UM, THEY LIKE THE WORDS, THEY ROLL THE WORDS OVER AND THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY MAKING THE REAL PROGRESS, WHICH I'M HERE TO CALL YOU OUT ON.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.
SO YOU WOULD'VE TOLD US RIGHT THERE ON THAT SLIDE, LIKE, HEY, YOU GUYS ARE 10% BEHIND OR 15% BEHIND AS A PERCENTAGE TO BE USED OF WHERE I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN BY NOW.
WHAT I TEND TO SEE IS I WOULD TEND TO SEE SOMETHING MORE LIKE 10 THAT HAVE BEEN SUNSETTED.
USUALLY THOSE ARE NOT, THEN MANY COMMUNITIES THAT I WORK WITH DON'T GO BACK AND ADD IN INITIATIVES EVEN MID-YEAR TO CONTINUE THAT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DO HERE AND I REALLY APPRECIATE.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE SOMETHING COMES OFF AND THEN WE'RE DONE UNTIL THE NEXT STRATEGIC PLANNING EFFORT.
WE'RE CONSTANTLY ROLLING NEW ONES IN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THE PLAN ITSELF.
I'LL JUST ADD ONE COMMENT AND WE TOOK NOTES THERE AS WELL.
IF YOU LOOK THE ACTUAL INITIATIVES, SOME OF THEM ARE MULTI-YEAR PROJECTS, RIGHT? SO WE'RE MOVING THE PHASES.
SOME OF THEM ARE NEVER GONNA GO AWAY.
I WAS LOOKING AT ONE, UM, CONDUCT EDUCATION AND OUTREACH PROGRAMS TO RESIDENTS, PROPERTY OWNERS AND BUSINESSES REGARDING OUR, UM, ZONING AND BUILD.
WE'RE NEVER GONNA STOP DOING THAT.
SO THAT INITIATIVE WILL NEVER FALL OFF.
SO THERE IS SOME CONTEXT WITH EACH INITIATIVE.
MAYBE, MAYBE WE'LL GET THROUGH IT TODAY, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SEEN MAYBE SOME SORT OF SCALE OR YEAH, SURE.
THEY JUST BREAK IT DOWN, DOWN MORE TIME.
LIKE, HEY, 50 OF THESE ARE ALWAYS GONNA BE RIGHT.
SO IT CHANGES THE DYNAMIC FOR MY VISUAL YEAH.
CAN WE GET KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE STRUCTURE OF TODAY SO THAT I DON'T ASK QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE ASKED LATER? SURE.
SO IN TERMS OF THE STRUCTURE FOR TODAY, MY INTENT IS TO PROVIDE A LOT OF INFORMATION UPFRONT AS STAGE SETTING.
SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH, UH, ONE, I WANNA WALK THROUGH WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN, LET YOU ABSORB THAT.
THEN I WANT TO GET INTO THE DATA, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SURVEY, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS, AND WHERE DO WE HAVE AGREEMENT AND ALIGNMENT? WHERE DO WE HAVE SOME AREAS WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION? I'M GONNA WALK US THROUGH, NOT IN ORDER OF THESE 1, 2, 3, I'M GONNA WALK US THROUGH THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF WE HAVE COMPLETE ALIGNMENT ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE DO, THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THESE KEY FOCUS AREAS AND STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES WHERE WE ARE COMPLETELY ALIGNED.
AND I'D LIKE TO START WITH THOSE AND THEN MOVE INTO CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE, UH, REQUIRE INCREASING LEVELS OF DISCUSSION MIGHT BE THE RIGHT WAY OF SAYING IT.
SO WE'LL GET INTO THINGS WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE MORE AND MORE DISCUSSIONS SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE THAT.
BUT I'D LIKE TO START IN THE AREAS WHERE WE AGREE WITH EACH OTHER AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, HOPEFULLY BUILDING A LITTLE BIT MOMENTUM.
YOU KNOW, WHAT I CAN SAY IS WE ARE LARGELY IN AGREEMENT.
AT THE POINT WHERE WE GET INTO MORE ROBUST DISCUSSIONS, WE MIGHT GET INTO SOME BREAKOUT ACTIVITIES INVOLVING, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THE ACTUAL WORDING AND SMITHING THAT WE'VE DONE FOR SOME OF US THAT ARE IN YEARS PAST.
WE'LL GET INTO SOME OF THAT AS WELL.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE SAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR THE DISCUSSIONS THAT NEED TO BE HAD AND GET AS MUCH OFF OF OUR PLATE THAT WE AGREE ON AS POSSIBLE.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE INTENT OF HOW I WAS GOING TO DO THIS.
I'LL ALSO SAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE TOO, FRIENDS.
SO THE CONVERSATIONS YOU NEED TO HAVE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS
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I WANT YOU TO HAVE.THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY, MY HOPE IS WE CAN GET THROUGH AS MANY STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES AND KEY FOCUS AREAS AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AND GAIN AS MUCH ALIGNMENT AS POSSIBLE.
THAT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE ON CERTAIN TOPICS, UM, IN WHICH CASE WE MAY HAVE TO PAUSE AND COME BACK TO THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
BUT, UM, THAT'S MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN GET THAT FAR.
IS THAT ACCEPTABLE IN TERMS OF YES.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW KIND OF, SO I DON'T JUMP THE GUN ON SOMETHING.
UH, WITH THIS RIGHT HERE, AGAIN, I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE A CHANCE TO ABSORB A LITTLE BIT MORE OF IT WHEN IT CAME TO THIS, MAKE SURE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO SEE IT.
UM, I'M GONNA TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE COMMON THEMES OF THE DISCUSSIONS AND THE ONE-ON-ONES AS WELL AS THE SURVEY RESULTS.
SO WE'RE GONNA GET INTO COMMON THEMES AND SOME OF THAT I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO HAVE A BASELINE.
HERE'S THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE FOR YOU TO HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW AND TO THE POINT OF ONGOING FINANCIAL HEALTH AND ORGANIZATION THAT'S NEVER GOING AWAY.
POLO OUT AND NOW ZIPPER SET IS SET.
I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH THAT.
AND SIX AND SEVEN, GOOD TO MOVE ON.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, IF I'M BELABORING A POINT, YOU JUST WANT ME TO MOVE ON, YOU CAN JUST YY ME, WHICH MEANS, NICK, WE GET IT.
UM, MY WIFE DOES IT TO ME NOW AND IT'S A REALLY USEFUL WAY FOR ME TO STOP TALKING AND KEEP GOING.
UH, BOARD GOVERNANCE GUIDELINES, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND I JUST WANNA REEMPHASIZE THIS, REITERATE THIS, BUT THIS IS GOOD GOVERNANCE WHEN IT COMES TO HOW WE GO ABOUT THIS, WHICH IS TO SAY YOU ARE, UH, THE ORGANIZATION'S ROLES TO FOCUS ON THE MEANS.
WHAT IS IT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO ACCOMPLISH? STAFF WILL COME BACK AND SAY, HERE'S HOW WE THINK YOU WOULD LIKE US TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE INTERPLAY THAT WE'VE GOT HERE.
THE POINT OF THE BOARD IS A, IS A DOWNWARD EXTENSION OF MAN, UH, DOWNWARD EXTENSION OF OWNERSHIP, NOT AN UPWARD EXTENSION OF MANAGEMENT.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THEY MEET IN THE MIDDLE.
PART OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS HELD RIGOROUSLY ACCOUNTABLE FOR ACHIEVING THE OUTCOMES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO ACHIEVE.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE RELATIONSHIP AND HOW WE CRAFT THAT RELATIONSHIP HERE IN TERMS OF EFFECTIVE GOVERNANCE, MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THAT.
SO TODAY YOU'RE TELLING US THE ENDS, WE'RE WORKING ON THE HOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE COME BACK WITH WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I'M GONNA BE BIG ON THIS TODAY.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A CONVERSATION THAT I'M BIG ON.
AND, UH, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, AND FOR THIS GROUP, I WILL SAY IT AGAIN.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONSENSUS AND CONSENT.
CONSENSUS MEANS THAT WE HAVE COMPLETE AGREEMENT ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE AFTER TODAY.
CONSENSUS IS AN NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TASK IN THIS CURRENT STATE.
UH, THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE WORLD AT THIS MOMENT.
SO I'M NOT AFTER CONSENSUS, WHICH MEANS AGREEMENT ON EVERYTHING.
WHAT I'M AFTER IS CONSENT, IN THIS CASE, INFORMED CONSENT, WHICH MEANS NO SIGNIFICANT OBJECTIONS.
SO THERE IS GOING TO BE TIMES DURING THE COURSE OF THE DAY WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BE LIKE, HEY, I HAVE A REALLY STRONG FEELING ABOUT THAT.
GREAT, I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THAT SAYS.
NOW, IF WE DON'T HAVE GENERAL AGREEMENT WITH YOUR VIEWPOINT, I'M SORRY, BUT WE DO NEED TO MAKE A DECISION AND WE DO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO WHAT I'M AFTER IS INFORMED CONSENT IN THIS SPACE, WHICH MEANS NO SIGNIFICANT OBJECTION.
SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE A STRONG OBJECTION TO SOMETHING, BE WILLING TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M WILLING TO LET THIS GO.
THIS ISN'T SOMETHING I HAVE INCREDIBLY STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT.
UM, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT I'D ASK FOR YOU TO DO TOO.
SO I'M GOING TO GET INTO THAT AT DIFFERENT POINTS I'M SURE TODAY AND SAY, HEY, I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T HAVE AGREEMENT OR SUPPORT FOR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S SOMETHING YOU FEEL PASSIONATE ABOUT.
WE DO NEED TO MOVE THE CONVERSATION FORWARD.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE MY REQUEST, IS THAT YOU HONOR THAT MY ROLE AS A FACILITATOR IS TO GET US WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO GO.
QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? YES, SIR.
UH, REAL QUICK ON CONSENT, UH, CAN WE TALK ABOUT SILENCE EQUALING CONSENT? UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THREE COUNSEL MEMBERS MIGHT SAY, I DON'T WANT THAT, OR I WANT THAT.
AND IF THE OTHERS ARE SILENT, THEN THEY'RE BASICALLY CONSENTING TO WHAT, WHAT, IN THIS EXAMPLE, THOSE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE SUGGESTING, IS THAT, IS THAT THE WAY YOU VIEW IT? OR HOW SHOULD WE VIEW IT? I, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT THAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS REALLY ENCOURAGING US TO SPEAK UP.
IF YOU HAVE A STRONG OPINION, LET'S HEAR IT.
WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU TODAY ABOUT THIS, AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, WHICH IS SILENCE IS ASCENSION IN MY WORLD.
AND, AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IF YOU'RE HOLDING YOUR TONGUE AND SAYING, I DON'T HAVE A STRONG OPINION ABOUT THIS, THEN I'M GONNA SAY THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
'CAUSE I, I CAN'T INTERPRET YOUR SILENCE.
UM, BUT PLEASE HELP ME NOT DO THAT.
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TO ENCOURAGE US TO HAVE ACTIVE CONSENT SO THAT WE ARE, UH, INSTEAD OF JUST BEING SILENT AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THE CONSENT, THAT WE EITHER SAY, YEP, I DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT OBJECTION, OR I DON'T, AND WE CAN MOVE ON.THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE SURPRISES.
WE'LL DO OUR BEST WITH THAT AS WELL.
AND THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT.
I, I, THAT IS THE CONVERSATION I HOPE WE HAVE TODAY IS I LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THAT FEELS BETTER TO ME THAN NOTHING AT ALL.
UM, BUT MY HOPE IS WE'RE HEARING YOUR VOICE TODAY IN THE BEST WAY WE CAN.
WITH THAT SAID, LET'S GET INTO THE KEY FOCUS AREAS HERE.
UM, TALKING THROUGH THESE, THESE ARE THE DATA.
AND SO WHAT I'LL SAY IS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I COULD NOT TELL FROM THE SURVEY DIDN'T COMPLETE THE SURVEY, SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER ON WHO DID NOT.
BUT I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE SIX OUTTA THE SEVEN OF YOUR, OF YOUR, UH, UH, SELECTIONS REFLECTED HERE.
SO THAT IS WHAT I HAVE, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M PROJECTING AND PRESENTING TODAY.
I CAN'T TELL WHO, UM, IN FUTURE YEARS, I WILL PROBABLY ASK FOR NAMES IF I'M INVITED BACK SO THAT I KNOW WHO AND I CAN DO A SPECIFIC OUTREACH TO WHOMEVER DID NOT.
OKAY? BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE SIX OUTTA SEVEN VOICES ARE REFLECTED IN THIS.
UM, SO WITH THIS SAID IN THESE PARTICULAR AREAS, ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS IN THAT SURVEY WAS KEY FOCUS AREAS.
WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT YOU'RE FEELING ABOUT THESE? YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE, UH, NO OBJECTIONS OR SUPPORTIVE CATEGORY, WE HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT.
SO WE'VE GOT PRETTY MUCH, UH, FINANCIAL HEALTH AND ORGANIZATIONAL HEALTH.
SIX, INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT MAINTENANCE, SIX, PUBLIC SAFETY, SIX, WHEN IT COMES TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF REVITALIZATION, WE'VE GOT STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THAT.
WE HAVE A REALLY POSITIVE THING.
THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE ABOUT THAT ONE ARE THINGS RELATED TO THE BRANDING AND THE ADDISON WAY, AND SOME OF THE THINGS I THINK IN THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES WERE SOME OF THE COMMENTARY RELATED TO THAT.
WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOME BOLSTERING OF THIS BECAUSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO US.
SO THAT'S TOP OF THE LIST OF IMPORTANCE, UH, WHEN IT CAME TO MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY.
THAT WILL BE OUR LAST DISCUSSION FOR THE DAY.
WE DON'T HAVE AGREEMENT ON THIS.
AND SO THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE ROBUST.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT ONE.
AND THEN THIS ONE, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND VIBRANT AND ACTIVE COMMUNITY DOWN HERE AS WELL.
UM, SEVERAL DIFFERENT KINDS OF COMMENTS RELATED TO THESE, AND I'LL REEMPHASIZE THIS, BUT IT WASN'T THAT WE DISAGREE AND I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL OF YOU AROUND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
WE JUST THINK MAYBE IT COULD BE ROLLED UP UNDER VIBRANT ACTIVE COMMUNITY.
IN SOME CASES, IT WAS WHAT'S THE RIGHT TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT.
IT WASN'T THAT WE'RE DOING ANYTHING WRONG, IT WAS, WE JUST WANT THE RIGHT TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT.
WE WANT IT BEFORE WE'RE DOING A VOTE.
WE WANT IT TARGETED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEING AFFECTED AND IMPACTED BY IT.
UM, AND SO THERE WAS MORE SPECIFIC DISCUSSION.
I DON'T THINK ANY DISAGREEMENT WITH IT NECESSARILY ON ANYTHING THAT WAS UNDERNEATH HERE.
MORE JUST THE HOW, HOW WE'RE GOING ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
SO WE'LL GET INTO THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL.
BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THAT ONE'S ALL THAT STICKY OR TRICKY FOR US.
SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SENSE ON THE KEY FOCUS AREAS AS A LARGER BUCKET, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I ASKED WHICH OF THESE CREATES THE GREATEST IMPACT FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON.
THESE ARE YOUR COMMENTS RELATED TO HOW YOU COLLECTIVELY WOULD WAIT THIS OUT.
SO I WANNA GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO ABSORB THIS, BUT THIS IS WHERE YOU FEEL THE GREATEST IMPACT IS CREATED.
AS A RESULT, WE CAN GET ALL THESE RESULTS.
I WILL MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THESE SLIDES ARE PROVIDED AND, UH, YEP.
I'M JUST GIVING EVERYBODY A MOMENT.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS I, I THINK WHAT'S INTERESTING HERE IS I ALSO HAVE YOUR LAST YEAR RESULTS AS WELL, FROM A COMPARISONS PERSPECTIVE.
AND YOU HAVEN'T SHIFTED ALL THAT MUCH IN TERMS OF THIS PUBLIC SAFETY WAS STILL NUMBER ONE.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS STILL NUMBER TWO.
AND FINANCIAL AND ORGANIZATIONAL HEALTH WAS NUMBER THREE.
SO IN TERMS OF LIKE THE OVERALL PRIORITIES, WE DIDN'T SHIFT IN OVERALL PRIORITIES, MAYBE JUST THE VOLUME OF THAT.
ALI SCORED THAT, LIKE WHERE DOES THE 21 COME FROM? WAS IT, WAS IT ONE, WAS IT ONE TO 20? I CAN'T REMEMBER.
YEAH, YOU HAD, SO THE IDEA WAS WHICH OF THESE CREATES THE GREATEST IMPACT FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON? AND THAT WAS THE QUESTION.
YOU HAD A HUNDRED POINTS TO BE ABLE TO ASSIGN TO THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
SO THESE WERE THE A HUNDRED POINTS ASSIGNED TO, TO THE CATEGORIES.
JUST THAT ONE
SO WHAT WAS THE QUESTION AGAIN? THE GREATEST IMPACT TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON, WHICH OF THESE KEY FOCUS AREAS HAS THE GREATEST IMPACT ON THE TOWN OF ADDISON? THAT,
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UH, YES.I, I I'M 90%, LEMME CHECK THAT HERE REAL QUICK.
I'LL GET YOU THE EXACT WORDING.
I'M 90% SURE THAT WAS THE EXACT WORDING OF IT, THOUGH.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN THE COMING YEAR, IN THE COMING YEARS CURRENTLY.
UM, JUST KIND OF A TEMPERATURE I GOT, I TOOK IT KIND OF AS A, AS A TEMPERATURE IS WHAT I, IT WAS, IT WAS A TEMPERATURE QUESTION.
UM, AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE ONE YEAR HORIZON VERSUS THE LONGER TERM, I ASKED LONGER TERM QUESTIONS IN THERE.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE MOST ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR 20 YEARS? SO THERE'S THIS ELEMENT OF US KIND OF PLANNING ON THE ONE YEAR HORIZON, WHICH IS THE MORE ACTIONABLE, THAT'S WHERE WE GET INTO OBJECTIVES AND INITIATIVES.
THREE YEARS IS, I USED TO, WHEN I DO STRATEGIC PLANNING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN I DO STRATEGIC PLANNING, MY HORIZON FOR FOLKS TO CONSIDER WAS MORE IN THE FIVE TO EIGHT YEAR HORIZON.
AND HERE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, I'D MOVED IT BACK TO THREE YEARS.
AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE MIND FRAME I KIND OF WANNA SEND BECAUSE THERE ARE MULTI-YEAR PROJECTS IN HERE AND THAT'S PART OF IT AS WELL AS WE DO HAVE THIS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT ONE TO THREE YEAR HORIZON, NOT THAT 5, 7, 9 YEAR HORIZON.
IT'S JUST AN UNTENABLE TIMELINE TO BE LOOKING THAT FAR OUT INTO THE FUTURE ANYMORE.
UM, SO YES, IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT IT.
I GUESS, UH, AS I ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS, THE A HUNDRED POINTS FOR ME WAS DIFFICULT BECAUSE PUBLIC SAFETY WAS NUMBER ONE.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS NUMBER TWO, INFRASTRUCTURE WAS NUMBER THREE.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU START USING THESE POINTS UP AND THEN YOU GET TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND VIBRANT ACTIVE COMMUNITY AND YOU DON'T HAVE MANY POINTS LEFT.
SO I WENT BACK AND TOOK AWAY FROM THE OTHER POINTS BECAUSE THOSE TWO AT THE BOTTOM ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHAT THAT SHOWS, IN MY OPINION.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TELL YOU TO STRUCTURE THE QUESTION DIFFERENTLY, BUT I FEEL LIKE IF WE HAD 500 POINTS, IT PROBABLY WOULD STILL COME OUT THE SAME, BUT I WOULD'VE FELT BETTER ABOUT IT.
BECAUSE LAST YEAR I DIDN'T LIKE THAT THOSE TWO CAME OUT SO SMALL AT THE END.
SO THIS YEAR I CHANGED THE WAY I, I ALLOCATED THE POINTS AND I, I STILL DID WHAT I WANTED WITH ONE, TWO, AND THREE, BUT I TOOK AWAY AND PUT MORE IN, IN THE BOTTOM TWO BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE IMPORTANT THAN WE, WE GAVE THEM LAST YEAR.
SO IF I CAN MAKE ONE NOTE JUST ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, I THINK SOME OF WHAT YOU PROBABLY EXPERIENCED IS WHAT NICK WAS MENTIONING EARLIER, BECAUSE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REALLY IS ACROSS ALL OF THESE, WE WANT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO BE INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING WE DO IN ALL THESE KEY FOCUS AREAS.
SO PART OF A DISCUSSION WE CAN HAVE TODAY IS DO WE PULL IT OUT FROM BEING ITS OWN KEY FOCUS AREA AND JUST INCORPORATE IT IN ALL THE OTHER KEY FOCUS AREAS? BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, HOW DO YOU WEIGHT IT AGAINST SOMETHING WHEN IT SHOULD BE A PART OF THOSE KEY FO KEY FOCUS AREAS? SO, UM, PART OF THAT PITCHING YOU MAY HAVE FELT COULD HAVE BEEN BECAUSE OF JUST THE NATURE OF, OF THAT KEY FO KEY FOCUS AREAS BY ITSELF.
UH, BUT THAT'S FOR DISCUSSION FOR YOU ALL.
IT, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE THAT WE ONLY HAVE A HUNDRED POINTS TO DIVIDE OVER, WHAT IS IT, SIX OR SEVEN AREAS.
AND THOSE TWO WERE IMPORTANT TOO.
SO I TOOK AWAY AND ADDED, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD FIX THAT UP.
GIVING MY, AND WHAT, WHAT I'LL ADD IS MY PERSPECTIVE IS I LOVE THE WAY THAT THIS QUESTION IS FORMED BECAUSE IT FORCES YOU TO PRIORITIZE.
SO FOR ME, UM, IT HELPS ME, FORCES ME TO PRIORITIZE WHAT IT, WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED PERCENT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT, WHAT'S THE LEAST IMPORTANT OF THE, OF THE SEVEN KEY FOCUS AREAS.
AND IF I COULD CHIME IN, I, I WOULD ALMOST PREFER IF WE HAD SEVEN QUESTIONS.
SO YOU REALLY CAN GO 0.2, FIVE, 0.5, ONE FULL POINT TO REALLY WEIGH IT SO YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND THE PRIORITIZATION.
AND I WAS ONE OF THE FOLKS YOU AND I SPOKE ABOUT, VIBRANT, ACTIVE COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT NEED TO BE, IN MY OPINION, NEED TO BE ROLLED INTO ONE.
SO YOU CAN THEN SPEND THOSE POINTS MORE TARGETED, MORE FOCUSED ON EXACTLY WHAT IS IMPORTANT VERSUS FLUFF.
JUST MY OPINION AND THE CHALLENGE I HAVE WITH, WITH THIS, HOLD ON A SECOND.
WITH WITH THIS IS IN MY MIND, IF WE GET ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RIGHT, THEN WE GET FINANCIAL HEALTH.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE I CHALLENGE, WE'RE TRYING TO DIVVY UP POINTS BECAUSE IN MY MIND, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PIECE GETS TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT.
IF WE GET THAT RIGHT, THEN FINANCIAL HEALTH WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF.
AND I AGREE WITH, WITH HOWARD, I DON'T CARE IF IT WAS A HUNDRED POINTS OR A THOUSAND, IT WOULD'VE PROBABLY CAME OUT IN THE SAME ORDER.
'CAUSE I'D HAVE WAITED THEM ALL THE SAME.
I'M, I'M ALMOST ON DAN'S THINKING THAT JUST ONE THROUGH SEVEN.
AND WHAT IS YOUR MOST IMPORTANT, PUT IT ONE NUMBER TWO DOWN, DOWN THE WAY LINE.
I'M NOT FAULTING WHAT YOU'VE DONE
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HERE AT ALL, BUT I DO SEE WHERE A COUPLE OF THESE CAN BE ROLLED IN TOGETHER.AND I DON'T WANT ANY OF OUR DEPARTMENTS OR STAFF TO THINK ANYONE ELSE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THEIR DEPARTMENT.
'CAUSE I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT DO THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE REST OF IT.
JUST NOT IN A OUT FRONT AND GOOD.
I, I WANT 'EM TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE APPRECIATED.
AT THE TOP OF THE A HUNDRED POINT LIST.
I I THINK THE A HUNDRED POINTS IS, IS GOOD.
IT FORCES YOU TO DO THE DISTRIBUTION OF WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
'CAUSE EVERYTHING CAN BE IMPORTANT.
UM, AND I WOULD AGREE WITH, SO THE CONTEXT IS A COUPLE YEARS AGO THERE WAS, UM, A LOT OF CONCERN FROM THE CITIZENS ABOUT THE LACK OF ENGAGEMENT, THE LACK OF US BEING INVOLVED, HEARING OUR VOICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THESE THINGS HAVE A LIFE CYCLE AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
NOW WE'RE DOING IT A LOT BETTER AND WE REALIZE IT NEEDS TO BE IN ALL THE OTHER KFA, ALL THE OTHER ACTIVITIES.
SO IT'S A NATURAL THING FOR THIS TO EVOLVE OUT.
NOW I'M A FAN OF C UH, COMBINING OR MAYBE DISTRIBUTING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AMONG ALL THE OTHER ONES.
UM, AND THEN, OR COMBINING IT WITH VIBRANT ACTIVE COMMUNITY.
UH, I HAVE SOME FURTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT FURTHER IN THE SESSION.
I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THIS FEEDBACK.
AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT I'M ATTEMPTING TO DO HERE IS HELP YOU HAVE A MIRROR.
THAT'S WHAT I'M AFTER, IS JUST BEING THE MIRROR TODAY IN, IN TERMS OF SHOWING YOU SOME OF THIS, LET ME EDITORIALIZE FOR A MOMENT HERE ON THE WHY AND THE WHAT WITH THIS, WHICH IS TO SAY THAT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES I DO FIND WITH COMMUNITIES THAT I WORK WITH IS THINGS ARE LISTED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND GIVEN EQUAL PRIORITY.
AND WE DO HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS AT THE END OF THE DAY AS STAFF.
WHICH OF THESE IS GOING TO, WHEN, WHEN I HAVE LIMITED TIME, WHICH OF THESE SHOULD I BE WORKING ON? WHICH OF THOSE SHOULD, SHOULD BE FUNDING IT? EVERYTHING IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS IMPORTANT.
AND I WANNA BE PERFECTLY CLEAR, IF IT IS IN THIS DOCUMENT, IT IS A PRIORITY FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS STATED.
IT IS A DIFFICULT DECISION TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS LIKE THIS.
AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT I INTENDED IS THAT THERE'S SOME DIFFICULTY INSIDE OF THIS EQUATION.
WHAT I HAVEN'T DISCOVERED WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT I'VE WORKED WITH, AND LET'S SAY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS A, AS A THING, WHAT IF THAT CAME BACK AS A TWO? WHAT THAT WOULD SAY TO ME IS THAT THAT IS A KEY FOCUS AREA THAT YOU DON'T ACTUALLY PRIORITIZE.
AND WHEN IT'S LISTED IN THE SAME VERBIAGE AS PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH MIGHT BE A 25 AND THAT'S A TWO, THAT MEANS IT'S 12 AND A HALF TIMES MORE IMPORTANT.
WHICH IS WHY ONE THROUGH SEVEN ISN'T THE WAY THAT I DO IT, WHICH IS AN ORDINAL RANKING.
UH, THIS IS A CARD, EXCUSE ME, THIS IS A CARDINAL RANKING, IT'S AN ORDINAL RANKING.
SO IN THIS CASE, I CAN SEE HOW PERCENTAGE-WISE MORE VALUABLE SOMETHING IS IN THERE.
THIS DOESN'T INDICATE ANYTHING WRONG TO ME AT ALL.
AND LIKE YOU ALL HAVE SAID, AND THIS IS A COMMON THEME FROM THE DISCUSSIONS VIBRANT ACT, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, LET'S BREAK IT UP AND MAKE IT A PART OF OTHERS OR LET'S COMBINE IT WITH VIBRANT ACTIVE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH SEVERAL OF YOU AS A PRIORITY.
SO IT JUST SAYS TO ME THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, ONE, THAT THE THINGS UP HERE ARE IMPORTANT TO US.
IF THAT WAS A TWO THAT WOULD SAY THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT, THEN THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BRING UP.
BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S AN EIGHT, HEY THAT'S OKAY.
AND NOW WE JUST NEED TO DISCUSS WHERE THAT WOULD GO AND TO THE POINT OF MAYBE HAVING MORE POINTS SO IT DIDN'T FEEL SO RESTRICTIVE.
UM, THIS IS A PROCESS THAT I GO THROUGH WITH A LOT OF COMMUNITIES JUST TO HELP THEM SEE THE DIFFERENCES IN TERMS OF HOW YOU'RE COLLECTIVELY SUPPORTING OR APPROACHING SOMETHING.
AND UH, IF YOU HAVE A HUGE DISAGREEMENT WITH CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THIS, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO TELL HOW OUT OF ALIGNMENT WITH OTHERS ON THE TEAM THAT YOU MIGHT BE.
AGAIN, WHAT I'D SAY IS THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHERE YOU LANDED LAST YEAR, WHICH IS ENCOURAGING TO ME, WHICH IS WE HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THE THINGS THAT WE DO SUPPORT, THAT'S A REALLY POSITIVE THING.
UH, REALLY APPRECIATE THE DIFFICULTY OF THE TASK THAT YOU WERE GIVEN AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO LEAN IN ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT EASY.
I KNOW THESE ARE ALL PRIORITIES TO YOU.
LET'S MAKE SURE THAT IT'S REFLECTED THAT WAY TOO WHEN WE GO FORWARD WITH THE PLAN.
UM, LET'S GET INTO STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES.
I, WE WILL COME JUST TO BE CLEAR TO THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND VIBRANT ACTIVE COMMUNITY AND WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE COMBINED, WHETHER WE TAKE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND, AND MAKE IT PARTS OF OTHERS OR WHETHER WE LEAVE IT AS IS.
SO I WANT TO CLARIFY, WE WILL GET INTO THAT DISCUSSION.
UM, BEFORE WE ROLL ON, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION RELATED TO THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES TOO HERE, WHICH IS IN GENERAL I ASK FOR STRONG AGREEMENT, AGREEMENT, NEUTRAL, MINOR OBJECTION OR STRONG OBJECTION TO EACH OF THE DIFFERENT INITIATIVES.
SO EVERY STRATEGIC OBJECT, EXCUSE ME.
SO EVERY SINGLE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN.
I STRONGLY AGREE WITH THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE.
I STRONGLY OBJECT TO THIS STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE.
THIS IS THE OVERALL COLLECTIVE.
SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE THAT IN GENERAL, THERE IS A LOT OF STRONG AGREEMENT WITH WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS A GENERAL GROUP.
UM, WE HAVE GOOD AGREEMENT WITH IT TOO.
AS I MENTIONED, CONSENT IN THIS SPACE, IN THE INFORMED CONSENT SPACE, WE HAVE A HUNDRED AND WHAT IS THAT 47 IN THAT STRONG
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IN THE AGREEMENT CATEGORY.THOSE ARE AREAS WHERE I'D SAY, HEY, LET'S NOT LEAN IN AND REALLY PUSH BACK ON THOSE WE, WE LIKE WHAT WE'VE GOT MAYBE A LITTLE WORDSMITHING IF WE NEED TO TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
AREAS WHERE WE'RE NEUTRAL, I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE WHY.
WHEN I LOOKED AT THE NEUTRAL, THEY WERE THESE COMMON THEMES THAT KEPT COMING UP THE ADDISON WAY BEING OVERUSED IN ELEMENTS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT CAME UP AS AN, AS AN ELEMENT OF THIS.
UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SHOULD BE INCLUDED.
WE WANT THE RIGHT TYPE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
THAT'S WHERE I SAW NEUTRALITY.
AND THEN THERE WAS MINOR OBJECTIONS AND STRONG OBJECTIONS AND THOSE PREDOMINANTLY, PREDOMINANTLY RELATED TO MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THOSE DISCUSSIONS A LITTLE MORE ROBUSTLY.
UM, BUT I WANTED YOU TO SEE THAT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF AGREEMENTS ABOUT THE PLAN IN GENERAL, WHICH IS REALLY ENCOURAGING.
IT WASN'T ALL ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, WHICH WOULD BE A SCRAP IT AND REWORK EVERYTHING.
WE'VE GOT A LOT WE CAN BUILD OFF OF HERE.
SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE THAT BEFORE I KEPT GOING.
UM, ARE YOU, ARE WE GONNA DRILL DOWN TO THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES IN WHICH WE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ONES THAT ARE, WE MOST STRONGLY OBJECT TO THOSE TWO OR THREE OR FOUR? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YES SIR.
WE ARE GONNA LOOK AT, YES SIR.
UM, YES AND GIVE GOOD DEFINITIONS OF WHAT THEY MEAN, UH, MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY.
ARE WE TRYING TO CONNECT TWO BUILDINGS TOGETHER OR ARE WE TRYING TO PUT BIKE LANES ALL OVER TOWN AND TAKE CAR LANES OUT? RIGHT.
I, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING THO THOSE CAN BE MISCONSTRUED AND PUT INTO THE SAME CATEGORY AND DEFINITIONS ON WHAT THEY TRULY MEAN WOULD HELP FOR ME.
SO THIS SLIDE IS ON STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES VERSUS THE KFA.
SO THESE ARE ALL THE MORE GRANULAR PIECES.
SO THIS WAS EVERY STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE AND THIS IS ON THOSE WE'RE BEYOND THE KEY FOCUS AREAS AND INTO THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES THAT NEXT LAYER DOWN.
IF I CAN ASK THE COUNCIL A QUESTION THAT I HAD TO WRESTLE WITH WHAT I WAS DOING THIS AND HAVE MY CONVERSATION WITH NICK IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS, I WOULD ASK THAT O OPEN ENDED QUESTION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ADDISON WAY OF HOW WE HANDLE BUSINESS INTERACTIONS, ENGAGEMENT WITH BUSINESSES, INTERACTION, ENGAGEMENT WITH COMMUNITY CITIZENS, VISITORS.
WAS THERE, WAS THERE A MOMENT IN TIME IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS WHERE I HAD IT MULTIPLE TIMES WHERE SOMEONE HAD MADE A MENTION IN BUSINESS, UM, ABOUT THE WAY OUR STAFF HAS TREATED FOLKS? I, I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW DO WE INCORPORATE THAT CONVERSATION OF THE ADDISON WAY WITHIN THAT WORK? DAVID, YOU AND I HAVE HAD THAT CONVERSATION, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WAS WRESTLING WITH.
I'M TRYING TO GET COMMUNICATED TO NICK, IS JUST ABOUT HOW, WHAT IS THE ADDISON WAY AND HOW DO WE BREAK THAT DOWN WHEN WE'RE LITERALLY PHYSICALLY ENGAGING OUR BUSINESSES AND OUR CITIZENS? YEAH.
WAS THERE A QUESTION THERE? YEAH.
DID, HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED ANYTHING IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS FROM ANY PERSONAL FEEDBACK FROM BUSINESS OR RESIDENTS OF FRUSTRATION? YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS THAT YOU CAN DEFINE WHAT THE ADDISON WAY IS, BUT LIKE TO ME IT'S, IT'S THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
IT'S SERVICE BEYOND EXPECTATION.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS EXPECT.
UM, AND ON, ON THE BUSINESS SIDE, UM, HOW WE'RE ENGAGING, I MEAN, I, I HAVE HEARD THAT, UM, ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, WE'RE, WE'RE AT TIMES MAKING IT A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT.
AND I DO FEEL LIKE WE'VE STARTED TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND ADDRESS SOME THINGS WITH STAFF AND ADDED, UM, ADDED AN EMPLOYEE THAT WOULD MAYBE HELP AS A LIAISON BETWEEN SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
SO I MEAN, I, I THINK YOUR POINT'S WELL TAKEN.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT FOR, FOR IF YOU COULD EACH EACH ANSWER THAT FOR ME, IT WOULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHERE OUR HEADSPACE IS AT, IF THAT'S NECESSARY.
I CAN JUMP IN REAL, REAL QUICK.
DAVID, WE DO HAVE THAT DEFINED ON A PARTICULAR WEBPAGE.
WE HAVE THE ADDISON WAY DEFINED.
SO, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE DEPENDING ON WHO YOU TALK, TALK TO, THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN INTERPRETATION OF WHAT IT IS.
AND UM, YOU KNOW, TO ME IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU GO TO THE, UM, THE REAL DEFINITION OTHER THAN POLLING EVERYBODY IN TOWN, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THEIR DEFINITION? SO I, I ALWAYS WANNA START WITH THAT.
LIKE, WHAT, WHAT IS IT REALLY MEAN? AND, AND I GO TO THE WEBPAGE THAT DEFINES THAT AND THEN WORK, WORK FROM THERE.
DOES THAT, DOES THAT KIND OF ANSWER YOUR, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A PER, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A PERSONAL ENGAGEMENT WITH SOMEONE IN BUSINESS, NOT, NOT NECESSARILY A RESIDENT, BUT MORE BUSINESS OWNERS OR BUSINESS PROCESSES WHERE YOU HAD SOMEBODY SAY SOMETHING TO YOU NEGATIVE ABOUT OUR ADDISON WAY.
NOT, NOT ABOUT THE ADDISON WAY.
THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T, I HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD 'EM BRING THAT UP.
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UM, ALL I'VE HEARD IS, HEY, IT'S UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO GO THROUGH DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS, UM, THAT ARE REQUIRED AND, AND WE'RE ONE OF THE CITIES THAT MAKES 'EM FULFILL THOSE REQUIREMENTS.SO IF YOU DON'T MIND IF I COULD, SO I MEAN, THE ANSWER IS YES, WE HEAR THAT AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN VERY, VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT.
AND WE TALKED TO COUNCIL ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S A CONCERN THAT WE HAVE.
AND HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TO IMPROVE IT.
BRINGING CHARLES'S POSITION IN, UM, LOOKING AT OUR ENTIRE BUILDING INSPECTION PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT IT IS MEETING WHAT WE EXPECT IT TO MEET.
IF THERE ARE ANY IMPROVEMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE TO THE MAKE, TO THE CODE, WE'RE GONNA BRING THOSE FORWARD TO COUNCIL.
SO I'M JUST, I'M SUPPORTING EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.
I THINK THAT IS A CONCERN THAT WE'VE HAD.
WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF STEPS TO RESOLVE IT WHERE I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE RIGHT NOW OF HAVING SOLUTIONS TO ALL THOSE.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT OF CONVERSATION FOR THE GROUP.
'CAUSE WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND SURE.
THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
BUT I MEAN, IF YOUR QUESTION IS HAVE WE HEARD THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
YEAH, THAT, I JUST WANNA GET THAT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I WASN'T CRAZY AND THINKING, I'M HEARING IT, HEARING IT DIFFERENTLY THAN ANY ONE OF YOU OR ANY ONE OF OUR STAFF FOR THAT MATTER.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAS A POINT THAT WE DISCUSSED TODAY.
SO I, I'M GONNA WEIGH IN JUST FOR A SEC.
THE COMPLAINTS I'VE HEARD FROM BUSINESS OR RESIDENTS IS IN THE WAY THAT, I GUESS I'M GONNA CALL IT OUT, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, INTERPRETS WHAT THE CODE IS.
SO WE HAVE CODES, WE HAVE THE U, NEW UDC, WE HAD CODES BEFORE THAT, BUT, BUT THERE'S CODES AND THEN, THEN THE ENFORCEMENT INTERPRETS THAT AND IS VERY, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD IS, HARSH.
WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY SPEAK OUT TO THE BUSINESSES OR THE PEOPLE, INSTEAD OF HAVING A FRIENDLY APPROACH TO TRY AND EXPLAIN TO SOMEONE, OUR CODE IS THIS AND WE NEED YOU TO COMPLY NICELY.
IF YOU DON'T DO IT, WE'RE GONNA FIND YOU AND WE'RE GONNA START TOMORROW.
AND EVERY TIME I HEAR IT, DAVID GETS A CALL FROM ME.
SO I, I RELATE IT WHEN I GET THAT BECAUSE TO ME THAT IS NOT THE ADDISON WAY TO, TO BE HARSH WITH OUR RESIDENTS OR OUR BUSINESSES IN TRYING TO ENFORCE THE CODE.
I JUST THINK WE NEED A SOFTER APPROACH THEN IF SOMEONE'S DEFYING IT AND WE'VE TRIED AND WE'VE TRIED AND THEY'RE JUST DEFYING IT WITHIN THE LEVEL IN OF INTENSITY, SHOULD, SHOULD MATCH THE LEVEL OF DEFIANCE, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD.
WHEN I HEAR THE ADDISON THE WAY CAN, CAN WE, CAN WE MOVE ON? WAIT, FOX, I MAKE, LET ME MAKE THIS COMMENT TO SUPPORT OUR, TO, TO SUPPORT OUR STAFF.
WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE HEARING HERE IS I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE HEARING COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE ADDISON WAY.
I THINK WE START HEARING COMPLAINTS WHEN THE ADDISON WAY IS NOT PRESENTED THE WAY WE WOULD LIKE THE ADDISON WAY PRESENTED.
AND I THINK THE ADDISON, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, I THINK THE ADDISON WAY IS NOT TO THE FIRST LETTER THAT YOU GET.
YOU'RE GONNA GET A $500 A DAY FINE IN 10 DAYS IF YOU START.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE INTEND THE ADDISON WAY TO BE.
BUT THERE AGAIN, THE ADDISON WAY CAN BE DESCRIBED IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS TO ME, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THE, WHAT FRUSTRATES ME IS WHEN I HEAR IT'S THE ADDISON WAY THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND 10 TIMES MORE THAN WHAT A PROJECT SHOULD TAKE BECAUSE IT'S THE ADDISON WAY TO DO IT THAT WAY.
BUT WHEN THE ADDISON WAY IS FOLLOWED, I DON'T THINK WE GET COMPLAINTS.
I THINK IT'S WHEN THE ADDISON WAY IS NOT APPLIED IN A KIND AND FRIENDLY MANNER THAT WE START GETTING THOSE.
THANK YOU FOR THE DISCUSSION ON THIS.
IT'S PART OF WHAT CAME UP THROUGH THE DISCOVERY PROCESS AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS.
AND SO IT WAS WORTH DISCUSSION AND I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE MORE AS WE GET INTO THIS.
THESE WERE THE AREAS TO THE POINT ABOUT, UH, THIS IS THE STUFF WITH MOST AGREEMENT.
SO JUST SO YOU COULD SEE THIS, I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT A FIVE MEANS STRONG AGREEMENT.
SO FIVE IS THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE SCORE, ONE WOULD BE THE LOWEST POSSIBLE SCORE OUT OF THAT.
SO AS WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS, ANYTHING ABOVE A THREE WOULD MEAN WE'RE GENERALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH IT AS AN OVERALL GROUP.
UM, WITH THIS SAID, WE SEE STRONG AGREEMENT.
WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS YOU'LL NOTICE THE AREAS THEMSELVES, AND I MENTIONED THIS, RIGHT, UH, FINANCIAL HEALTH AND ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE, TONS OF ALIGNMENT AND AGREEMENT AROUND THAT.
UH, AREA FOUR, WHICH IS INFRASTRUCTURE, LOTS OF ALIGNMENT AND AGREEMENT AROUND THAT.
UM, TWO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION.
LOTS OF AGREEMENT AROUND THAT.
PUBLIC SAFETY, LOTS OF AGREEMENT AROUND THAT.
SO I DON'T THINK ANYTHING TOO SHOCKING HERE, BUT WANTED YOU TO SEE THAT THIS IS KIND OF WHERE EVERYTHING SHOOK OUT.
WE HAVE TWO AREAS WITH PERFECT FIVES ACROSS THE BOARD AND WE LOVE FINANCIAL AND ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE, FINANCIAL HEALTH AND ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE.
SO JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE THIS, THIS IS THE AREAS OF LEASE AGREEMENT.
SO THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE LESS AGREEMENT, UM, THIS ONE DOWN HERE, MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY, THE EAST WEST PEDESTRIAN.
SO NOW WE START TO GET INTO THREE.
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THE ADDISON WAY CONVERSATION WE WERE JUST HAVING AND SORT OF WHERE THAT FALLS INTO IT.UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE WITH MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY, THAT IS THE ONE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE, THE CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO CENTER AROUND IN TERMS OF MOST DISAGREEMENT.
SO JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE A SENSE OF THAT.
ALSO, THE NUMBER THREE IS SORT OF OUR NEUTRAL SPACE.
SO THREE WOULD BE NEUTRAL ANSWERS ARE STILL MOD, MODESTLY SUPPORTIVE, ABOVE THAT LINE AS A COLLECTIVE.
HOWEVER, THESE ARE THE NUMBERS.
AND AGAIN, BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE PERSON'S SCORE NOT REPRESENTED IN HERE, THAT COULD SHIFT ENTIRELY WHERE THIS LANDS AT.
AND I WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
I THINK TO RANDY'S POINT, SOME OF THESE ARE KIND OF SQUISHY, UH, NOT WELL-DEFINED.
AND THAT MAY BE PART OF, UM, THE NEUTRAL OR MINOR OBJECTION, UH, LIKE THE EAST WEST PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY THAT COULD BE DEFINED AS GETTING ACROSS A BELT LINE IN THE NORTH DALLAS TOLLWAY.
OR COULD BE DEFINED AS GETTING FROM VITRUVIAN TO VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.
SO IT'S JUST A VAST INTERPRETATION.
UM, SO I I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF IT.
AND JUST BETTER, UH, BETTER DEFINITION PROBABLY GOING FORWARD WOULD BE, UM, OF, OF WHAT THE RESULTS LOOK LIKE FOR US WOULD PROBABLY BE WISE.
I I'M WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THAT.
AND I THINK THAT IN, IN CASES WHERE WE HAVE A LACK OF CLARITY, THE DISCUSSION TODAY CAN INFORM THE INITIATIVES AND THE PROJECTS UNDERNEATH THAT AS WELL, WHICH IS HUGELY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF GIVING YOU WHAT YOU'RE AFTER.
AND SO LET'S DO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WHEN THEY NEED TO COME UP BECAUSE IT IS THE WAY THAT STAFF CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THIS CONNECTIVITY.
UM, I CROSSED BELTLINE AND MIDWAY YESTERDAY.
UM, AS A MATTER OF FACT COULD JUST, YES SIR.
I I'LL USE THE EAST WEST CONNECTIVITY AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS BROAD.
BUT THAT WAS A DECISION THAT WAS MADE DURING THIS PROCESS A FEW YEARS AGO.
'CAUSE THE CONVERSATION THAT ACCOUNTS ALL THE TIME WAS WE COULD FIT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN HERE.
IF THIS COUNCIL BELIEVES SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR WANTS IT WORDED DIFFERENTLY OR WANTS US TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING DIFFERENT, CHANGE IT.
WE NEED TO HEAR THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO WE'RE HERE TO, TO CHANGE AND ALTER WHATEVER WE NEED TO THAT ALIGNS WITH THIS COUNCIL, UM, WITH THE PLAN.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST IS KIND OF, WE, WE WANT TO INTERPRET IT OUR OWN WAY.
UM, AND LEAVING IT THAT BROAD LEADS TO AMBIGUITY, WHICH CAN, UH, RESULT IN LACK OF CONSENT.
AND UM, IT SAYS, SO DAVID, WE WERE WISE TO LEAVE IT BROAD, BUT IF WE CAN DEFINE BETTER WHAT EACH OF US ARE THINKING UNDER THESE PRIORITIES, I MEAN TO, TO CAPTURE THAT, THEN THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR, UH, PROBABLY BETTER, BETTER MOVEMENT FORWARD.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MAKES SENSE TO ME.
I I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT LAST ONE BECAUSE EAST WEST PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY IS WHAT GIVES ME THE HEARTBURN CONNECTING THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF THE TOLL ROAD PEDESTRIAN.
BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM MIDWAY TO WYNWOOD WHEN WE'RE TALKING EAST, WEST, PEDESTRIAN DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE TO ME.
PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA WALK THAT.
I THINK WE HAVE A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF TOWN.
AND I WOULD LIKE THOSE CONNECTED.
I WOULD LIKE THE PEOPLE TO BE ONE ADDISON INSTEAD OF AN EAST AND A WEST PEDESTRIAN AND COM CONNECTIVITY IS WHERE I HAVE HEARTBURN WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S, TO ME, IT'S JUST THE TOLL ROAD AND I DON'T WANNA SPEND $10 MILLION TO FIX IT.
I, I WANNA FIX IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN FIX IT REASONABLY.
BUT, BUT THE BROADNESS OR THE, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
I HAD PROBLEMS WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S PEN PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY.
THESE ARE DISCUSSIONS WE'RE GONNA GET INTO.
AND I THINK THESE, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR, THOUGH, WHICH IS TO SAY, I JUST WANT ONE AS A STARTING CONDITION FOR YOU TO SEE, HEY, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE LESS AGREEMENT.
NOW WE KNOW THOSE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE LESS AGREEMENT.
THESE ARE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE A TON OF AGREEMENT AND WE GOT A LOT OF THOSE.
SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF ALIGNMENT OVER A LOT OF REALLY IMPORTANT TOPICS HERE.
WHEN WE GET INTO SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, IT'S THE HOW AND THE WHAT THAT ARE REALLY GONNA BE THE THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE KIND OF THE, THE DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.
AND DAVID'S RIGHT, THAT WAS INTENTIONALLY VAGUE OR LESS SPECIFIC WITH THE IDEA BEING THAT INITIATIVES UNDERNEATH THAT COULD HELP CREATE DEFINITION AROUND WHAT THAT OBJECTIVE MEANT.
IF WE DON'T LOVE IT, WE CHANGE IT.
THIS IS REFLECTIVE OF WHAT YOU WANT THIS COUNCIL WANTS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AFTER TODAY.
I WANTED YOU TO SEE THAT ALIGNMENT JUST SO YOU HAD A SENSE OF WHERE IT IS.
UM, I'M GONNA GET INTO EACH ONE OF THESE.
UM, IF WE NEED TO IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS, I'LL TAKE A BREAK JUST SO WE CAN STRETCH OUR LEGS.
'CAUSE I KNOW HOW IT IS BECAUSE, UM, BUT LET'S GET INTO IT HERE A LITTLE BIT.
I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO SEE THIS.
SO I'VE GOT SEVERAL DATA SOURCES.
ONE, YOU KNOW, I'VE REVIEWED ABOUT, LET'S CALL IT 180 PAGES OF INFORMATION IN ORDER TO DO THIS.
SO THAT'S A LOT TO SYNTHESIZE TO BE ABLE TO BRING TO A CONVERSATION HERE.
UM, ALL I'M GONNA DO IS HELP PROVIDE FLAVOR, AND IT'S THE MIRROR.
THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO DO IS HOLD THE MIRROR UP THE DATA SOURCES, THE PRIORITY WAITING.
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QUESTION TWO, THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CURRENT OBJECTIVES, IMMEDIATE PRIORITIES, AND THEN THE OPEN-ENDED SURVEY RESPONSES AS WELL AS YOUR ONE-ON-ONES.SO WE'LL DO SOME SUMMARY RELATED TO ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN, IN WHAT I WANT TO DO.
'CAUSE THAT PROVIDES US WITH COMPLETE CONTEXT FOR THIS.
SO I HAVE LABELED THESE AS THINGS THAT YOU ARE FINE WITH.
IF YOU'RE FINE WITH IT, LET'S GO ONTO THE NEXT, RIGHT? IF IT'S MODIFY, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE BEING PROPOSED BY ANY ONE OF YOU.
AND IF IT'S REMOVED, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S GENERAL SUPPORT FOR THE REMOVAL OF SOMETHING OR THE COMBINATION OF SOMETHING AS WE DISCUSSED.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DATA ON THESE SLIDES.
THESE WERE THE THINGS WHEN I ASKED YOU A LEGACY QUESTION, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR LEGACY TO BE WHEN PEOPLE LOOK BACK 20 YEARS FROM NOW ON THIS COUNCIL? AND THESE WERE THE KEY THEMES THAT CAME OUT OF THOSE ANSWERS THAT YOU GAVE HERE.
UM, ONE IS FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND RESIDENT FIRST.
THAT WAS A VERY LOUD AND CLEAR THEME.
I DON'T THINK I TALKED TO ANYBODY WHO DIDN'T BELIEVE IN THOSE THINGS AS WELL.
SO A LOT OF ALIGNMENT ON THAT.
UM, ECONOMIC REINVENTION AND COMPETITIVENESS, OFFICE TOWERS, HOTEL SPACE, THE REINVENTION OR THE REINVIGORATION OF THOSE BECAME REALLY IMPORTANT.
DISCUSSION, UH, DISCUSSION POINTS.
UM, COMPETING SUCCESSFULLY WITH THE NEWER SUBURBS.
AND SOME OF US FELT THAT MAINTAINING ADDISON AS A DESTINATION, A TARGET DESTINATION WAS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AS WELL.
UM, PUBLIC SAFETY IS A DIFFERENTIATOR, BUT WHAT I'D SAY IS STRONG PUBLIC SAFETY WAS CONSIDERED TO BE THE BACKBONE OF EVERY CONVERSATION.
WE CAN'T HAVE THE OTHER CONVERSATIONS WITHOUT THAT CONVERSATION COMING FIRST.
AND THAT WAS THE COMMITMENT THAT WAS, UH, PRETTY RED, UH, READILY AVAILABLE IF YOU READ THE COMMENTS RELATED TO YOUR LEGACY.
SO WE BELIEVE IN PUBLIC SAFETY, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US.
UM, THIS WAS SELECTIVE AND THERE WAS, AGAIN, A LOT OF VARIATION IN TERMS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS BEING SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS FELT WAS PART OF THE LEGACY.
SO ABOUT HALF OF US FELT THIS WAS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
ABOUT HALF OF US FELT THE OPPOSITE OF THAT.
SO THAT'S ALL I'M GETTING AT WITH THIS ONE IS THAT THAT WAS A THEME THAT CAME OUT OF SOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS.
WE DISAGREED MAYBE ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANT.
SOME OF US FELT LIKE IT MEANT TRANSIT.
SOME OF US FELT LIKE IT WAS CONNECTING MAJOR ROADWAYS, UH, CROSSING ARTERIALS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
UH, VERTI PORT WAS MENTIONED, FUTURE MOBILITY.
THE AIRPORT WAS A DISCUSSION AS WELL.
SO LOTS OF DIFFERENT MEANINGS BEHIND THIS KIND OF SPACE OF CONNECTIVITY.
BUT THESE WERE THE LEGACY THEMES, THE ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEWS.
THESE ARE, AGAIN, I HAD GREAT INTERVIEWS AND GREAT DISCUSSIONS WITH ALL OF YOU, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME WITH THIS.
IT IS HARD TO ENCAPSULATE SO MANY DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS.
THIS IS MY BEST ATTEMPT AT THAT.
OKAY? SO HAPPY TO BE BEAT UP FOR SOMETHING IF I DID IT, PLEASE RECORRECT ME IF I GOT SOMETHING INCORRECT IN THIS.
UM, ADDISON IS IN AN EXECUTION PHASE.
THAT WAS PART OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
WE'RE PAST SOME OF THE VISIONING STUFF.
WE HAVE A SENSE OF A LOT OF THESE THINGS.
WE'RE HERE TO GET THE RESULTS DONE, AND WE WANT TO SEE THAT EXECUTION CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.
SO ONE, A LOT OF AGREEMENT AND A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR STAFF AND THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE.
A LOT OF, WE ARE IN AN EXECUTION PHASE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT PROGRESS.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT WE ARE MAKING THAT PROGRESS HAPPEN.
SO THAT WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT I HAD.
I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH EVERYBODY HERE ON DART.
I'M SURE YOU'VE HAD MORE DISCUSSIONS ON THAT.
THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT WAS OF, OF IMPORTANCE FOR EVERYBODY HERE.
SO AT SOME POINT THAT DISCUSSION BECAME A DISCUSSION AND IT MEANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO EVERYONE, IS WHAT I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THAT.
SO THAT'S HOW I LOOKED AT THAT ONE.
UM, SOME OF US WERE ABOUT FISCAL TRUST, SOME OF US WERE ABOUT THE LOCATION THAT WE ARE AND HOW WE CONNECTING THINGS.
UM, AND THEN ENGAGEMENT WAS ABOUT TRUST, NOT VOLUME.
NOBODY INDICATED SUPPORT FOR MORE ENGAGEMENT OF THE WRONG TYPE.
IT WAS LIKE, HEY, LET'S NOT HOLD TOWN HALL FOR TOWN HALL'S SAKE.
HOWEVER, WHEN WE DO A PROJECT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN IN SOME CASES DOOR TO DOOR, LET'S KNOCK DOOR TO DOOR.
IN SOME CASES, IT WAS LIKE, WHAT CAN WE DO TO INCREASE THE ENGAGEMENT BEFORE A VOTE COMES BEFORE COUNCIL? AND THAT WAS REALLY THE KEY UNDERPINNING OF THE DISCUSSION WAS THERE HAD BEEN A FEW SPECIFIC EXAMPLES WHERE IT WAS FELT LIKE THAT DIDN'T OCCUR.
UM, STAFF DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.
I DID NOT HEAR THAT FROM FOLKS.
WHAT I HEARD WAS, I'D LOVE IT IF THE RESIDENTS ENGAGED MORE.
I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND THERE WERE A FEW IDEAS, BUT IT WAS DOOR TO DOOR KNOCKING WAS BASICALLY THE BEST THAT ANYBODY COULD COME UP WITH THAT I HEARD.
UM, BUT IT WAS, HEY, WE'RE DOING THE SOCIAL MEDIA STUFF, WE'RE DOING THE TOWN HALLS, WE'RE DOING THE IN THE PARKS, WE'RE DOING THAT.
AND WE STILL DON'T GET THE RIGHT TYPES OF ENGAGEMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS WHY THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DISCUSSION WAS SO ROBUST, UM, WITH ALL OF YOU AS WELL.
SO I JUST WANNA PAUSE THERE BECAUSE ONE I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT ANYTHING THAT YOU FEEL IS A MISREPRESENTATION IF I DID THAT, OR TWO SAY THAT.
WE'LL GET INTO SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL.
BUT I ALSO JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE KIND OF THINGS THAT WERE THEMES IN THE DISCUSSIONS THAT I HAD WITH YOU BEFORE I KEPT GOING.
UH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN NUMBER TWO? DART
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IS A PROXY ISSUE.WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY PROXY ISSUE? I UNDERSTAND ALL THE BULLET POINTS.
IN THIS CASE, EVERYBODY'S FEELING WAS DIFFERENT ABOUT DART STRAIGHT UP.
EVERYBODY HAD A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT ON DART, WHETHER IT WAS THE UNDERPINNINGS FOR SUCCESSFUL MOBILITY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, UH, WHETHER IT WAS THE BACKBONE OR THE FUTURE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WHETHER IT WAS THE THING THAT WOULD RECRUIT AND ALLOW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION, WHETHER IT WAS FISCAL IRRESPONSIBILITY, WHETHER IT WAS SIGNALING TO THE PUBLIC, OUR DESIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE, WHETHER IT, SO EVERYBODY HAD A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT.
SOME OF US WERE IN THE SPACE OF THE RESIDENTS SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO DART.
IF THEY VOTE TO KEEP IT, THEY VOTE TO KEEP IT, BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
AND SOME OF US WERE LIKE, THIS IS THE THING THAT UNDERLIES ALL THE REST OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION.
SO DART WAS THE TOPIC, BUT THE ISSUE CHANGED DEPENDING ON WHO I TALKED TO ABOUT WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU.
SO WHAT I WAS SAYING WITH THIS IS THAT IT'S NOT THAT DART'S NOT IMPORTANT, IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
WE JUST ALL HAVE VERY DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS ON WHY THAT TOPIC IS SO IMPORTANT TO US.
FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, CONNECTIVITY, WE ALL JUST HAD A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT ON WHY DART WAS IMPORTANT.
SO THAT'S WHY I CALL IT A PROXY ISSUE BECAUSE IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T FULLY DART.
IT WAS WHAT DART MEANS IN THE LARGER CONTEXT OF ALL THE OTHER DISCUSSIONS.
SO ON THE EXECUTION PHASE, UH, I AGREE.
I THINK WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THINGS RIGHT AND GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IN GENERAL.
UM, JUST MY OWN THOUGHT IS, UH, WE SHOULD WEIGH VERY STRONGLY ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO REVITALIZATION.
UM, AND JUST, I SUPPOSE MAYBE IT'S, IT'S JUST EXECUTING THAT IF, IF THAT'S RIGHT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S NOT MISSED, UH, UP THERE.
THERE WERE STRONG, UM, STRONG SUPPORT FROM EVERYBODY WHEN IT CAME TO STAFF IS DOING A GREAT JOB.
LIKE THAT WAS A COMMON THEME FROM ALL THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD.
IT WAS A HANDFUL OF, WE COULD DO THIS A LITTLE BETTER, WE COULD DO THIS, BUT DEFINITELY WITH YOU ON THAT.
WE CAN HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS, BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS A, AS A WHOLE.
UM, WHEN WE GET INTO THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES, LIKE I SAID, I'M GONNA DO THIS IN SORT OF ORDER OF MOST AGREEMENT TO AREAS OF LEASED AGREEMENT.
MY HOPE IS TO BUILD A LITTLE LOVE AND MOMENTUM AS WE GET INTO SOME OF THOSE AREAS WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE MORE OF THAT DISAGREEMENT.
LET'S JUST START WITH THIS ONE.
PUBLIC SAFETY BOTTOM LINE IS, IT'S OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY ACROSS THE BOARD.
HAD 20.8% WHEN IT CAME TO THE POINTS OVERALL, THAT 100 POINTS SCALE.
SO IT'S HUGELY IMPORTANT TO US.
IT HAS COMPLETE AND UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FROM THE COUNCIL.
THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE OBJECTION OR CHANGE REQUESTED IN THIS.
WITH THAT SAID, YEP, YEP, YEP, YEP.
THAT'S WHY I'M THROWING OUT SOFTBALLS TO START WITH HERE.
THAT WAY WE CAN KNOCK 'EM OUT OF THE PARK.
THAT'S THE FUN PART THOUGH, RIGHT? WE DO HAVE COMPLETE AGREEMENT ON THIS.
SO FOR MY PUBLIC SAFETY TEAM IN THE ROOM.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? UH, REVITALIZATION ALSO A HUGE PRIORITY FOR US.
IT'S A GREAT, IT'S A GREAT CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD.
ALL WE WANT IS MORE AND BETTER.
THAT WAS IT, RIGHT? HOW DO WE GO ABOUT DOING IT? THERE WAS SOME HOW AND SOME DISCUSSIONS IN THIS.
UM, 83% SUPPORTIVE, 17% NEUTRAL, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS ONE VOTE OUT OF THIS WAS A NEUTRAL VOTE.
EVERYTHING ELSE WAS, UH, VERY SUPPORTIVE.
UM, THESE ONES HAD, AGAIN, NO OBJECTION TO THEM.
THESE WERE ONES WHERE WE HAD A LOT OF ALIGNMENT AND SUPPORT.
I'VE TRUNCATED THEM SO THEY'LL FIT ON A SLIDE.
SO REMEMBER THERE'S A LONGER WORDING THERE.
HOPEFULLY YOU UNDERSTAND WHICH ONES.
THESE WERE THE CONVERSATIONS WHEN IT CAME TO MODIFYING, UM, BASICALLY THE ADDISON WAY CONVERSATION WAS PART OF IT.
SOME FOLKS FELT LIKE IT MAKES IT MORE EXPENSIVE FOR US TO DO CONSTRUCTION ON GIVEN PROJECTS.
AND THAT WAS THE, THE MAYBE THE CONSTERNATION AROUND SOME OF IT.
UM, THE PHRASE IS UNCLEAR, AND AGAIN, ADDISON WAY, ADDISON BRAND MIGHT BE MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT DISCUSSION.
AND SO I THINK THERE'S SOME CLARIFICATION THAT COULD OCCUR THERE.
UM, AND THEN ADD AND STRENGTHEN, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, RESOURCES AND TOOLS FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
SO REDEVELOPMENT IN PARTICULAR WAS A DISCUSSION THAT CAME OUT IN ONE-ON-ONES.
ALSO CAME OUT THROUGH THE SURVEY, HOW MANY INCENTIVES AND WHAT TYPES OF INCENTIVES SHOULD WE PUT IN PLACE TO CREATE THE RIGHT KIND OF REDEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE AFTER.
THE ONE SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED WERE, UH, AGING OFFICE BUILDINGS AND AGING HOTELS.
THOSE WERE THE TWO THAT KIND OF RECEIVED THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SORT OF VISIBILITY THROUGHOUT THE DISCUSSIONS IN THE SURVEY.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS HOW CAN WE LEVERAGE THE AIRPORT MORE AND THE OPPORTUNITIES TO LEVERAGE THE AIRPORT MORE WAS A DISCUSSION AS WELL.
UM, SO I'LL PAUSE THERE FOR THOUGHTS ON THIS.
AGAIN, THESE RIGHT HERE AS OVERARCHING THEMES, WE
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HAD A LOT OF AGREEMENT ON MAYBE THE, HOW UNDERNEATH THOSE IS SOMETHING THAT INITIATIVES MIGHT BE THE SPACE WHERE WE COULD BACKFILL SOME OF THAT.UM, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE DON'T HAVE OBJECTIONS TO THIS.
I'LL STOP, I'LL STOP HERE BECAUSE IT IS PROBABLY WORTH A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION TO HAVE ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
BUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT THE DATA SAID.
SO, UH, I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH THIS SLIDE.
THE ONLY, THE ONLY THOUGHT I SHARED WITH YOU, AND PROBABLY IN THE SURVEY ALSO IS, UM, UH, JUST MODIFY 2.4.
IT JUST SEEMED A LITTLE REDUNDANT THE ADDISON WAY, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION.
IT JUST, TO ME, IT JUST, I WOULD JUST CHANGE IT TO OPTIMIZE AND MARKET, UH, THE ADDISON BRAND AND JUST LEAVE IT SHORT AND SUCCINCT AND, UM, CLEAR.
UM, TO MARLON'S POINT ABOUT BRAND VERSUS WAY, I WOULD A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH THAT COMMENT.
THE OTHER THING THAT, WHEN I THINK ABOUT MARKETING AND I SEE 2.8 BUSINESS AND REALTOR RELATIONSHIPS, UM, I DON'T, AND I LIKE TO SEE US PLAY THAT UP MORE BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WHEN PEOPLE ALWAYS PULL MAPS OUT, NOBODY USES THE OLD MAPSCO.
BUT WHEN WE USE VIRTUAL MAPS IN OUR ED PACKET THAT WE'VE LEFT BEHIND AT SOME OF THESE CONFERENCES, UM, IT'S AMAZING.
I LOVE HOW WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE PLATINUM CORRIDOR AND WE ARE THE BULLSEYE ON THE MAP.
SO IF YOU'RE A POTENTIAL RELOCATING BUSINESS FROM COLORADO OR EAST COAST, AND YOU WERE TO PULL A MAP OUT AND SAY, WE WANNA MOVE TO DFW, WHERE DO WE LOOK? HOW DOES, HOW DO WE MARKET? AND I GUESS IT IS REALTORS OR, UM, BROKERS.
HOW DO WE GET THAT BULLSEYE MORE AS A BRAND SYMBOL THAN JUST THE BLUE DOT? IT WOULD BE MY ASK OF THE GROUP IN THE ROOM.
AND I, I'LL AGREE WITH MARLON REGARDING THE ADDISON WAY BEING PART OF THIS.
AND I, I RECALL THE CONVERSATION FROM LAST YEAR THERE, THERE WAS MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT IT WHERE THERE WAS SOME INTEREST IN THAT.
THE ADDISON WAY NEEDED TO BE ALMOST IN EVERY EVERYTHING, EVERY EVERYTHING.
AND SO THAT'S US, US OVERUSING IT OURSELVES.
AND SO I THINK, I THINK TAKING IT OUT OF THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
AND, AND, AND TO LOOK, TO LOOK AT, LOOK AT, LOOK AT OTHER PLACES WHERE WE MIGHT BE OVERUSING IT AS WELL.
BECAUSE IT, IT DOES GET DILUTED WHENEVER, WHENEVER IT'S, UH, EVERYWHERE LIKE THAT.
WELL, I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT, UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF THINGS.
I THINK IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE CAN DO.
AND I THINK IT'S WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, CAN ALL AGREE THAT WE CAN DO BETTER.
I MEAN, THIS TIME LAST YEAR WE HAD THE SAME CONVERSATION.
SO WHEN THE BUDGET CAME AROUND, WE ADDED ANOTHER EMPLOYEE TO THAT OFFICE, AND WE ALSO ADDED A LITTLE MORE AS FAR AS DOLLARS.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW DEEP YOU WANT TO GO IN THAT CONVERSATION.
I MEAN, UM, I DON'T WANNA GET TOO MUCH IN THE WEEDS, BUT I HAVE MY OWN IDEAS ON WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING, UM, YOU KNOW, TO DAN'S QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS AND REALTOR RELATIONSHIPS.
WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT LAST YEAR, BUT THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE DOING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ROLE OF COUNCIL WOULD BE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A FINE LINE BETWEEN LIKE MICROMANAGING AND JUST SITTING BACK AND LET YOU KNOW STAFF DO THEIR THING.
SO THAT'S WHERE I HAVE A, A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
SO, I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, EVEN IF WE GET INTO DETAILED QUESTIONS, LET'S ANSWER 'EM.
AND WE CAN, WE CAN PARSE OUT WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT WE HAVE STAFF HERE.
I WOULD, I WOULD GET IT ALL OUT.
ASK YOUR QUESTIONS, GIVE YOUR THOUGHTS, AND THEN WHAT WE CAN DO IS REACT TO THAT AND SAY EITHER, HEY, HERE'S MAYBE WHAT WE'RE DOING TO THAT EFFORT.
HERE'S HOW WE CAN CHANGE, HERE'S HOW IT COULD BE A NEW STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE.
WE CAN REACT TO YOUR COMMENTS.
BUT WE WANTED, THIS IS THE CHANCE TO, TO HEAR 'EM.
I, I'M WITH YOU ON THAT POINT, WHICH IS TO SAY, THIS IS THE ROOM FOR THE DISCUSSION, AND LET'S HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT DISCUSSION.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT REVITALIZATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO YOU? HELP STAFF UNDERSTAND THE INTENT AND THEN THEY CAN HELP WITH PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES UNDERNEATH THESE OBJECTIVES THAT WILL HELP ACCOMPLISH THE INTENT THAT YOU'RE AFTER.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE, BECAUSE WE DID HAVE THIS SPECIFIC, ONE OF THE ADDISON WAVE REMOVAL ON THAT PARTICULAR PHRASE.
CAN I GET A TEMPERATURE CHECK OUTTA THE ROOM? WE DON'T TAKE VOTES, WE TAKE PREFERENCES, VOTES HAPPEN LATER IN FORMAL SETTINGS.
BUT JUST IN TERMS OF THAT, IS THAT AN ACCEPTABLE CONCEPT TO REMOVE THE ADDISON WAY AS A PHRASING FROM THIS? AND THAT MOVES THAT ONE ACROSS THE FINISH LINE FOR US RIGHT THERE ON THAT PARTICULAR OBJECTIVE.
WOULD THAT BE OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? DOES THAT FEEL OKAY? YEP, YEP, YEP.
WITH THAT SAID, WE'RE GONNA REMOVE THE ADDISON WAY FROM THAT PARTICULAR ONE.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, LET'S HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
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WHAT ARE THE THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION, WHICH ARE IMPORTANT TO US, WE HAVE THESE RIGHT HERE.WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO YOU? TELL ME THAT ONE OF THE THINGS, THIS IS MORE TACTICAL AND IT MAY BE SUB, UH, OBJECTIVE AND MORE OF AN INITIATIVE, BUT REALLY FOCUSED ON GETTING A NICE HOTEL OR TWO IN TOWNS, HIGH PREMIUM HOTELS.
AND THAT MAY BE, UH, TAKING WHAT WE'VE GOT IN SOME WAY, PUSHING, UH, A, A BIG REMODEL OF THE HOTEL.
AND WE'VE HEARD FROM SO MANY, UH, ENGAGEMENTS WITH, UH, OUR EXISTING VISITS, UH, IN THE C-SUITE.
THEY SEND THEIR FOLKS DOWN THE STREET OUT OF ADDISON TO, TO STAY AT DIFFERENT HOTELS.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE A, A, A STRONG PUSH, UH, TO, TO GET A NICE HOTEL OR TWO.
AND I, I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE NEW ONES COMING ONLINE, UH, REMODELED ONCE.
ON THAT TOPIC OF, OF HOTELS, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASY TO SAY, LET'S GET A NICE HOTEL OR TWO THAT'S FOUR OR FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
AN IDEA I'VE HAD SINCE BEFORE I GOT ON COUNCIL AND, AND SINCE I'VE BEEN ON IT, AND I WANT TO GET AN AGENDA ITEM PUT ON SO WE CAN TRULY DISCUSS THIS.
WE NEED TO NOURISH WHAT WE HAVE.
AND WE HAVE TWO REALLY NICE HOTELS THAT AT ONE POINT IN THEIR LIVES WERE REALLY NICE, THAT THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE THAT ARE, THAT COME IN THAT ARE NOW BYPASSING US.
AND I WOULD TRULY LIKE TO SEE US DISCUSS, UH, RATHER THAN JUST SPEND OUR HOTEL AND TAX MONEY ON DIFFERENT THINGS, WHY CAN'T WE GIVE THEM A, A REFUND ON THEIR OWN TAX MONEY? CALL IT A GRANT, A CITY GRANT BACK TO, UH, THE HOTELS THAT PAY INTO THAT FUND AND GET THEM TO AGREE TO SPEND THAT MONEY ON THAT BUILDING.
GET, AND, AND THEY WOULD BE USING THEIR OWN MONEY WITH CITY ASSISTANCE ON A GRANT BACK TO THAT HOTEL AND GET THEM TO DO SOME REFURBISHMENT TO BRING THEM UP TO A MORE COSMETIC LEVEL.
AND, UM, IT, IT WOULD JUST BE A WAY OF USING THEIR OWN AND, AND EMBRACING WHAT WE'VE GOT.
AND IT WOULD BE A FASTER WAY TO GET OUR HOTELS BACK ONLINE.
AND I HAVE MANY MORE IDEAS ON THAT MAY NOT BE THE PLACE TO PUT 'EM ALL OUT, BUT I WOULD TRULY LIKE TO GET AN AGENDA ITEM PUT ON WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT REUTILIZING, THE HOT TAX, A HOTEL AND TAX FUND, UH, IN A MORE PRODUCTIVE WAY IN OUR BUILDINGS, IN OUR TOWN.
IF WE'RE GONNA TALK JUST HOTELS.
I, I THINK, I THINK YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT, BUT FOR ME, IT'S ALL ABOUT HIGHEST AND BEST USE.
AND TO YOUR POINT, TWO OF THEM ARE PROBABLY STILL WORKING.
I WANNA KNOW WHY THE, THE REST AREN'T WORKING, RIGHT? UM, AVERAGE REVENUE PER NIGHT IS LIKE $60, RIGHT? THAT'S PITIFUL.
THAT ATTRACTS A CERTAIN TYPE OF CLIENT, THANK YOU CLIENT OR CREATES ISSUES FOR US.
SO I ALMOST THINK IT NEEDS TO GO A STEP FURTHER.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE OUTLIVED THEIR USEFUL LIFE, AND THAT'S WHY, AND I'M NOT SURE INVESTING IN THEM IS THE BEST THING.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE, WE CAN DO, BE AWARE WHEN THOSE PROPERTIES HIT THE MARKET.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME DEVELOPERS IN OUR BACK POCKET THAT WE COULD SAY, HEY, HERE'S OUR VISION, YOU KNOW, HERE'S OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE THINK THAT HOTEL WILL BE GREAT FOR YOU.
UM, AND WE DO THE, AND, AND WE DO THE, DO THE THINGS NEEDED TO MAYBE ENTICE THEM.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE OR, OR, OR SOME WAY OF GETTING THAT TO TURN.
SO I GUESS MY POINT IS, SOME OF THE HOTELS WE HAVE, IT MIGHT NOT MAKE SENSE FOR 'EM TO CONTINUE TO BE HOTELS.
AND I AGREE WITH THAT COMPLETELY, BUT PART OF MY PLAN WOULD BE THEY WOULD PRESENT US WITH WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO TO BASICALLY PLANS FOR SOME TYPE OF RENOVATION OR FREIGHT UP, AND THEN WE WOULD APPROVE THEM JUST LIKE A GRANT TOOL.
THEY WOULDN'T, EVERY ONE OF THEM WOULDN'T GET AN AUTOMATIC PERCENTAGE OF THEIR MONEY BACK UNLESS THEY WERE WILLING TO PUT IT IN.
AND WE ALL APPROVE THAT IT WOULD COME THROUGH THE COUNCIL OR THROUGH ECONOMIC, WHOEVER TO APPROVE THAT.
BUT JUST A WAY OF, OF GETTING SOME OF THEIR MONEY BACK TO THEM TO MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER FOR ALL OF US.
TO THE POINT YOU MAKE, RANDY, AND WE, WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM, DAVID, CLARIFY ME IF I'M WRONG ON THE FACADE PROGRAM, WE DISCUSSED A FEW YEARS BACK ABOUT GRANTS.
TO YOUR POINT IS, IS SOMETHING WE'VE MADE AVAILABLE OR HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS AND MADE POLICY ABOUT THE SECOND PART, TO CHRIS'S POINT ABOUT WHAT ABOUT THE CLIENTELE OF SOME OF THAT $60 A NIGHT HOTEL? THAT'S WHAT I'M THRILLED MOST ABOUT, IS THE FACT THAT CHIEF FREEZE CAME IN.
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ALL APPROVED THIS.WE HAVE A TIER ONE, TIER TWO PROGRAM, WHICH I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE HOW THAT PANS OUT AS LONG AS WE ARE WILLING TO HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE.
AND IF THEY GO TIER TWO, THE CO GETS PULLED.
I MEAN, THERE'S ONE WAY OF CLEANING THINGS UP BACK TO BRAND OR WAY, IT'S ENFORCEMENT.
AND OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS TO JUST LOCK AND BUCKLE DOWN.
BECAUSE I THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT OWNERS OF THESE, LET'S CALL 'EM CERTAIN TIERED HOTELS, DON'T NEED TO BE REFURBISHED.
THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T NEED A DOLLAR OF OUR MONEY BECAUSE THEIR OWNERSHIP AND OR MANAGEMENT DON'T CARE.
THEY JUST FLAT OUT DON'T REPLACE LIGHT BULBS.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IT SPLIT APART WHERE YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE TIERED ONE AND YOU WANT TO HAVE A SERIOUS CONVERSATION WITH THIS COUNCIL AND THIS TOWN STAFF ABOUT REINVESTMENT, LIKE, LIKE LOOKING AT THE RENAISSANCE UP THE WAY, UM, AT LEGACY WEST VERSUS OUR RENAISSANCE AS AN EXAMPLE, IT'S NIGHT AND DAY.
SO THEY ARE, THEY ARE THERE TO BE SAVED, IE MARRIOTT.
BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING A PROGRAM, WE DO, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, DAVID, WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM.
SO, UM, SO YEAH, SO I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION.
I THINK I, I THINK ACTUALLY THERE ARE A COUPLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS GOING ON.
I THINK TO RANDY'S POINT, YES, WE CAN MODEL SOMETHING AFTER THE PROGRAM YOU'RE MENTIONING, BUT WE CAN DO ONE TAILORED TO HOTELS IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS, AND WE CAN LOOK AT USING HOT FUNDS.
AND I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING, IF WE WANNA MAKE THAT A STRATEGIC STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE, WE'RE GONNA START WORKING ON IT AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK AS WHAT COULD THAT LOOK LIKE.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A TEMPLATE FOR IT STRUCTURE WISE TO START AND THEN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL.
BUT I DO WANNA SAY TO, TO CHRIS'S POINT, MAYBE THIS, JUST TO KIND OF GO BACK TO WHAT I THINK YOU'RE SAYING, HOPEFULLY, AND MAYBE TRY TO HELP THAT A LITTLE BIT IS YES, DAN, WELL, YOU'RE THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW TO HELP ENSURE THAT THE HOTELS ARE LIVING UP TO THE QUALITY WE EXPECT IS A LINE THAT WE'RE GOING DOWN.
BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MAYBE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND SOMETHING MIGHT BE IN MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE JUST DID ON MULTIFAMILY OR, OR I'M SORRY.
ON, ON, ON MULTIFAMILY WHERE WE, AND, AND SIN, UM, AND BE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP WHERE WE'RE BROUGHT SOMEBODY IN AND WE PRESENT IT TO YOU ALL, HERE'S WHAT THE REALITY IS RIGHT NOW, AND HERE ARE SOME STEPS THAT WE CAN DO MOVING FORWARD.
IF THAT WAS THE DESIRE FROM COUNCIL, WE COULD USE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO HOTELS, BRING SOMEONE TO COME IN AND TRY OR, OR OURSELVES TRY TO, I DEFINE WHY WE'RE IN THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN, AND THEN HAVE A STEP MOVING FORWARD AND MAKE THAT AN INITIATIVE AS WE GO FORWARD.
WHICH IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OTHER TWO CONVERSATIONS.
BUT I DO THINK IT'S A DISTINCT OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
I I I THINK THE DISCUSSION WE HAD ON, UM, JUST HOUSING PRODUCTS WAS A, WAS A, WAS A REALLY A, A GOOD ONE, RIGHT? AND I WALKED AWAY WITH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD HIM SAY WAS, WE NEED TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE NEXT NEIGHBORHOOD'S GONNA BE.
AND, YOU KNOW, UM, WE NEED TO BE SORT OF ASPIRATIONAL.
WE, YOU KNOW, BUILD SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE, MAYBE AT A HIGHER PRICE POINT.
BUT WHAT I MEANT BY MY COMMENT WAS, AND, AND I WON'T GET INTO SPECIFICS, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT IS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT ON THE TRAIL RIGHT NEXT TO THE DOG PARK THAT WOULD'VE BEEN PERFECT FOR, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY ACRES IT IS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD'VE BEEN PERFECT, UM, FOR SOME SORT OF OWNERSHIP PRODUCT, RIGHT? IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE DOG PARK RIGHT ON THE TRAIL.
UM, I FEEL LIKE JUST THOSE TWO THINGS RIGHT THERE ARE ENOUGH TO MAKE WHATEVER WAS DEVELOPED THERE SUCCESSFUL, IT, AND THAT PROPERTY WENT ON THE MARKET.
THAT'S, THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US.
SOMEONE ELSE BOUGHT IT, AND IT'S CONTINUING TO, YOU KNOW, CHARGE THE 60 OR $80 A NIGHT.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET BETTER AT THAT.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I TO YOUR POINT, I THINK IDENTIFYING THE SITES AND THEN HAVING A FEW THINGS IN OUR TOOLBOX, AND PART OF THAT MIGHT BE THE VISION AND SHARING THAT VISION MIGHT BE A GOOD PLACE TO START, IF I CAN ADD TO THAT.
SO BACK TO CHRIS'S QUESTION, WHICH WAS THE BIGGEST QUESTION OF ALL, WHY ARE PEOPLE NOT CHECKING INTO OUR HOTELS AND THE RATE DRIVING THE RATE UP BY OCCUPANCY? I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION OF OUR TOWN STAFF AND OURSELVES, HAVE WE GOTTEN TO THE TOP 20 BUSINESS OWNERS, MARY KAY BEING ONE, THE HOSPITAL BEING TWO, WHEN THEY HAVE CONFERENCES, WHEN THEY HAVE VISITORS COMING IN TOWN, HAVE WE PULLED THEM TO ASK, BY THE WAY, WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR BOARD COMING IN FOR A MEETING OF 12 TO 20 PEOPLE, WHERE DO YOU PUT THEM UP? WHERE ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THEY STAY? DO WE KNOW THAT INFORMATION? AND IF WE DO, IF WE DO, GREAT QUESTION.
I THINK THE MAYOR, OTHER FOLKS WHO'VE BEEN ON THE BUSINESS RETENTION MEETINGS, WE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
AND THEY'RE NOT STAYING IN ADDISON, THEY'RE GOING TO FRISCO, THEY'RE GOING UPTOWN.
AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT'S DRIVING A LOT OF THIS CONVERSATION.
BUT I'LL OPEN THAT UP TO ANYONE ELSE.
WHEN WE DO KABOOM TOWN OR WE SELL BUNDLES AND PACKETS, HEY, YOU TICKETS AND STAY AT OUR HOTELS, YOU GET TICKET.
HOW DO WE MAYBE MAYBE MAKE THAT AN ENTICEMENT TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS TO SAY, HEY, IF YOU'RE HOLDING, IF YOU'RE HOLDING A CONFERENCE OR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 20 DOCTORS IN FOR A MEETING AND YOU STAY IN ADDISON,
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YOU GET XI DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.IS IT A, IS IT A COUPON TO A RESTAURANT, WHICH I WOULD THINK WOULD HAPPEN BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY RESTAURANTS? OR IS IT THE BAT BOX? IS IT THE PUT SHACK? I DON'T KNOW.
BUT WE HAVE SO MANY RESOURCES, RIGHT? ON BELTLINE, IT'S A TRAGEDY THAT THEY WOULD GO STAY AT UP NORTH OR DOWN SOUTH, I THINK.
I THINK ALL THOSE THINGS HELP, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE QUALITY OF THE HOTEL, UHHUH,
SO THAT'S THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE.
SO SOME OF THESE OTHER CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING, I THINK CAN HELP THAT.
BUT I THINK ALL THOSE PIECES ARE GONNA HELP ON THE MARGINS.
BUT TO TRY TO GET FOLKS TO REALLY WANT TO DO THEIR CONFERENCES HERE, AND IT SHOULD, IT'S GONNA BE US WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS TO TRY TO IMPROVE THOSE.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S HOW YOU DEFINE SUCCESS BY SAYING, LET'S GET 20 DOCTORS IN HERE AND HAVE ONE SUCCESSFUL WEEKEND.
OR LET'S HAVE ONE SUCCESSFUL WEEK WHERE WE HAVE A NICE CONFERENCE.
I THINK YOU GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU ASK THE QUESTION, DO WE HAVE TOO MANY HOTELS? AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, CAN, CAN THOSE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE PROBABLY SEEN BETTER DAYS BE REPURPOSED TO SOMETHING ELSE? OR APARTMENTS? YEAH, I, YEAH, I MEAN, I KNOW RANDY'S A BIG FAN OF APARTMENTS AND I MEAN, THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISCUSS.
AS SOMEBODY WHO STAYS HERE, I'LL JUST SAY THE FIRST TIME I STAYED HERE, I ALWAYS USED HILTON PROPERTIES.
FIRST TIME I STAYED HERE, SOMEBODY DID NOT TELL ME WHICH PROPERTIES TO STAY AT.
I STAYED AT THE ONE NEXT TO OAKED, THE OAKED RESTAURANT, RIGHT? RIGHT.
NEXT DOOR IS A HILTON PROPERTY.
IT WAS, I, I'LL SAY THIS,
AND IT WAS EFFECTIVELY AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THAT WAS A VERY UNUSUAL EXPERIENCE FOR ME.
I'VE STAYED AT OTHER PROPERTIES HERE, AND NOW I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM STAYING IN TOWN.
AND I WAS STAYING AT A HILTON GARDEN INN, WHICH IS JUST FINE.
BUT TO YOUR POINT OF HAVING NICE, UPSCALE, IT IS AN INTERESTING ONE TO HAVE THOSE UPSCALE HOTELS, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY PULLS FOLKS IN.
AND THE REVITALIZATION OF EXISTING ASSETS, I THINK IS A REALLY GREAT CONVERSATION TO HAVE.
UM, YOU DO HAVE SOME OLDER AND OUTDATED UNITS, AND THAT'S JUST THE TRUTH OF IT.
IT, AND DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE IS THE, IS A, TO MY MIND, A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
SO THAT'S MY, I I'LL EDITORIALIZE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, BUT I'LL SAY THE FIRST TIME, THAT WAS AN ADVENTURE LESS THAN I WANTED.
AND, AND FROM WHAT, FROM WHAT I HEARD IS, IS, UH, AS WE'RE COMING OUTTA THE PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE LIMITED SERVICE HOTELS, THIS, THAT, THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY THEY, THEY COULD STAY ALIVE WAS TO GO TO THIS EXTENDED STAY, UH, BUSINESS MODEL.
UM, AND IF, IF THAT'S, IT WASN'T REALLY A CHOICE THAT THEY, THAT THEY HAD, IT'S, THEY COULDN'T JUST SAY, WELL, WE'RE GONNA KEEP CHARGING 80, 90, $120 OR WHATEVER.
UH, BUT WE, WE NEED TO GET HEADS AND BEDS AND TO, TO KEEP THE PLACE ALIVE.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
AND I DON'T GET TURNING, MAKING A TURN AWAY FROM THAT IS, IS HARD, YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T OWN THOSE BUSINESSES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE APPROVED FOR.
THEY'RE, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A LEGAL BUSINESS THAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A CHALLENGING THING AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE GOING FORWARD TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT OPPORTUNITIES DO WE HAVE? IT'S NOT, THERE'S NO QUICK SOLUTION TO IT IN ANY, ANY KINDA WAY.
DO, DO YOU THINK IN AGREEING WITH YOUR POINT THAT IT JUST GETS WITH THE COMPETITIVENESS, DO YOU THINK 30 YEARS AGO WE MAY HAVE APPROVED TOO MANY OF THESE AND, AND RATHER, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN BEEN MORE SELECTIVE.
SO GOING FORWARD FROM THIS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO MM-HMM
BUT FROM THIS DAY FORWARD, BEING MORE SELECTIVE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T OVERSATURATE ONE PARTICULAR BUSINESS OVER, OVER ANOTHER ONE GOING FORWARD.
AND IT, TO CHRIS'S POINT, IF THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN GET THAT REDEVELOPED MM-HMM
THEN YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S A GREAT THING TO DO YEAH.
ANYTIME THOSE PROJECTS COME UP, THAT'S, THAT'S THE CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD.
UM, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING FORWARD.
THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABSOLUTELY.
BRUCE, WHEN YOU HAD YOUR, YOUR, UM, ONE-ON-ONE BUSINESS MEETINGS WHEN YOU'RE GOING DOOR TO DOOR WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BLESS YOU.
UM, DID YOU NOTICE, LIKE WHEN WE USED TO HAVE THE HAMPTON, THAT BECAME SOMETHING OTHER THAN ON BELTWAY, ARE YOU, ARE YOU SEEING THAT THERE'S MORE RESPONSIVENESS TO MARRIOTT TYPE PROPERTIES IN, INTO NICK'S POINT THAT I'M UMBRELLA, IHG PROPERTIES, MARRIOTT PROPERTIES, HILTON PROPERTIES? I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I DON'T THINK I'VE HEARD PEOPLE MENTION PARTICULAR BRANDS, YOU KNOW, OKAY.
OF, OF HOTELS, BUT IT'S JUST ABOUT THE QUALITY.
SO WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEIR EXECUTIVES COME IN, UH, YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TAKING 'EM TO NEWER, UH, YOU KNOW, NICER, NICER PROPERTIES.
YOU KNOW, AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TWO FULL SERVICE HOTELS THAT WE HAVE, UM, THEY'RE GOOD,
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BUT THEY, THEY, THEY BOTH NEED SOME, SOME LOVE AND, AND, UH, SO THEY'RE NOT BEING CHOSEN BY THESE, BY THESE, UH, THE LOCAL, UH, BUSINESSES.DAN, I WOULD, I WOULD ECHO THAT EXACTLY WHAT HE IS SAYING, BECAUSE WE, WE'VE BEEN IN THESE MEETINGS AND WE'RE SAYING, HEY, WE HAVE THESE TWO HOTELS, AND THEY, THEY BASICALLY SAY, NO, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.
WE, WE WANT SOMETHING MORE PREMIUM THAN THAT, AND WE'RE WILLING TO DRIVE 15 MILES TO AND FROM EACH DAY SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT.
SO, UM, THAT, AND THE OTHER THING I'VE HEARD, UM, IS MAYBE NOT THE MARRIOTT FLAG, BUT BEING ABLE TO TAP INTO THE MARRIOTT REWARDS PROGRAM BEING AFFILIATED, SOMEHOW THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
IS, IS WHAT I'M HEARING IS, IS THAT, UH, HOTEL, HOTEL, WHAT IS IT? DAX DAX, YEAH.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT I BELIEVE THEY'RE TAPPED INTO THE MARRIOTT REWARD PROGRAM.
AND, AND APPARENTLY THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING.
SO THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I'M HEARING.
UM, AT THE HIGHER LEVEL, OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THE, THE ONES WHO ARE JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE FROM COVID AND NOBODY COULD HAVE PREDICTED.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE POINT I'M TRYING TO GET AT BRUCE, OR, OR, OR MARLIN IS EXACTLY THAT.
THEY HAVE 40 NAMES UNDER CERTAIN FLAGS, AND THAT DOES GIVE STREET CRED WHEN YOU'RE A BUSINESS TRAVELER, LIKE MYSELF OR RANDY JUST CHIMED IN.
I, I DO NOT STAY AT PROPERTIES THAT I'M NOT EARNING SOMETHING WITH BECAUSE I STAY A HUNDRED PLUS NIGHTS OUT OF TO ADDISON.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING, SHOULD WE BE TARGETING LEADERSHIP, LET'S CALL IT, OF THOSE FLAG FLYING BRANDS TO REINVEST IN OUR TOWN? THAT WAS THE BIGGER OPENING.
I THINK THE MARKET WILL DRIVE THAT, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND IT, AND IT JUST, YOUR QUESTION KINDA LEADS ME BACK TO DARREN'S THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, IS, IS WE'RE ALREADY, WE'RE ALREADY TARGETING A PREMIUM BOUTIQUE, UM, HOTEL PROPERTY, RIGHT AT THE TOD WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT IN VARIOUS, VARIOUS PLACES.
BUT DO WE WANNA, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO ADD IT AS A STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE? IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT WHERE WE'RE, BECAUSE I JUST WOULD LOVE TO ANSWER THAT, IF THAT IS YOUR QUESTION AND KIND OF MOVE ON.
UH, MY THOUGHT THE FASTEST WAY TO GET THERE IS TO INCENT AND, AND TO NEGOTIATE REMODELS OF, OF THE NICE HOTEL.
SO TO, TO YOUR POINT, RANDY, YES.
NOT JUST BUILD ONE FROM SCRATCH.
WE ALREADY GOT ONE OF THOSE ON THE BOOKS.
UH, I LIKE YOUR IDEA, DAVID, AS KIND OF AN INITIATIVE IS TO GET IN THAT, UH, PRESENTATION THAT TALKS ABOUT OUR HOTEL STOCK THAT WE HAVE, THE CHOICES WE HAVE AND THE REALITY, AND GIVE US, UH, SOME, UH, INFORMATION TO MAKE STRATEGIC DIRECTION CHANGES.
UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK TALKING TO THE, THE TOP TIER, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE TARGETING IT JUST LIKE WE DO 2.8 UP THERE, BUSINESS AND, UH, REALTOR RELATIONSHIPS.
SO, UH, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
DO YOU, DO YOU FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO MODIFY ANY OF THESE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES OR CHANGE 'EM, OR I WOULD SAY WE SHOULD ADD ONE.
UM, IF IT'S NOT UP THERE, JUST LOOKING AT THIS REVITALIZE HOTELS AND MEETING SPACE, I'M NOT TOO SURE THAT DOESN'T ENCOMPASS IT.
DOES WE JUST, UM, GIVE SOME OF THE, UH, PATIENTS THAT'S ALRIGHT.
DO YOU WANT US TO DO THAT? DO YOU WANT US TO GIVE THE, THE DIS OUR INITIATIVES? THE, THE DISCUSSION IS, IS PROVIDING INITIATIVES.
RIGHT NOW, THIS DISCUSSION IS PROVIDING INITIATIVES UNDERNEATH THERE, BUT PART OF IT IS, UH, PERHAPS A STUDY SESSION.
IT SOUNDS LIKE COULD BE THE RIGHT WAY TO GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS WHAT THE HOTEL STOCK LOOKS LIKE.
SO THERE'S SOME STUFF UNDERNEATH, BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE'RE ACTUALLY CREATING NECESSARILY A NEW IN, UH, A NEW STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE GOT SOME DESIRES TO SEE SOME SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS UNDERNEATH SOME OF THESE OBJECTIVES AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO SEE THIS TYPE OF INCENTIVE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE US TALK WITH THE TOP 20 OF THIS, OR, SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ALREADY STATING SOME OF THESE AND I'M CONFIDENT SOMEBODY ON STAFF IS CAPTURING SOME OF THESE INITIATIVES AS THEY COME UP, OR WE'VE GOT VIDEO PROOF OF THAT.
I'D MAKE ONE SUGGESTION JUST BASED ON A CONVERSATION I'M HEARING.
YOU MIGHT SAY, REVITALIZE OR RE YOU DO THE MICROPHONE, MICROPHONE REVITALIZE OR REDEVELOP BECAUSE REVITALIZE IS A MUCH SOFTER YEAH, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS DOING, BUT STRONGER LANGUAGE.
THAT WAS LIKE HANG OUT WITH CHAIR.
SO WE MIGHT TAKE A LOOK AT 2.6, MAKE SOME STRONGER LANGUAGE ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ITEM ITSELF.
AND THE, THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING THAT, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT INITIATIVE, THE INITIATIVE, 2.2 0.1, UM, ALRIGHT.
YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE SOME ADDED, ADDED MORE DESCRIPTIVE WORDING THAN JUST SOMETHING LIKE, UM, DEVELOP THE TOD PROPERTIES.
I LIT THIS UP A LONG TIME AGO.
SO WE KEPT GOING DOWN THE HOTEL, UH, SLOPE, WHICH NOBODY MENTIONED THE, UH, CROWN PLAZA, WHICH IS BEING REDEVELOPED.
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I THINK, AREN'T WE GONNA HAVE A REALLY NICE, OKAY.SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS THE NAME.
BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS TYING THIS INTO SOME OF THE OTHER STRATEGIC, UM, INCENTIVES HERE IS THAT WE, WE SAID, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY'S NUMBER ONE, AND WE SAID ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT'S NUMBER TWO AND MOBILITY WAS SOMEWHERE DOWN TOWARD THE BOTTOM.
AND YET THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON IS DART.
AND I WANNA, I WANNA RELATE THE DART BACK TO THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE 1% OR 50% OF OUR, UM, A SALES TAX REVENUE IS GOING INTO DART, WHICH IS MOBILITY.
THE PUBLIC HAS TO CHANGE THAT IF IT'S GONNA GET CHANGED.
BUT IF WE WERE TO RE-LOOK AT THAT AND THOSE DOLLARS BECAME AVAILABLE TO THE TOWN, EVERYTHING COSTS MONEY AND ALL OF THIS REDEVELOPMENT, ALL OF THIS IS, IT'S A, IT'S A MONEY THING.
SO IN, IN THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO CALL AN ELECTION, WHICH WE JUST DID, PART OF THAT IS WE ARE SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY ON MOBILITY, AND YET MOBILITY WAS NEAR THE BOTTOM.
AND HERE WHERE WE WANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE IN COMPETITION WITH ALL THESE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE NON TO ART CITIES THAT HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR SALES TAX REVENUE, AND WE ONLY HAVE 50% OF OURS.
SO I DO WANT TO EQUATE THAT THOSE TWO THINGS ARE CONNECTED.
THAT THESE ARE NOT ALL INDEPENDENT ISSUES.
MOBILITY IS AN ISSUE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT'S AN ISSUE.
I KNOW IT WAS ON A PREVIOUS SLIDE AND I'M GETTING INTO A DIFFERENT AREA, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT INTO THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE THAT WOULD GIVE US MONEY THAT COULD GO TOWARD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO FIX A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THE CITIZENS HAVE TO VOTE ON IT, IT'S UP TO THEM, BUT NOT CALLING AN ELECTION WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THEM FROM DOING IT.
SO I THINK WE MADE THE RIGHT DECISION.
WELL, HERE'S THE THING THAT GETS LOST, RIGHT? AND THIS IS MY BIGGEST ARGUMENT BEHIND STAYING INTO ART IS ALL, ALL OF THIS IS CONNECTED, RIGHT? AND THE 17 MILLION WE PAY IN, WE, WE CAN DO ONE TO TWO THINGS.
WE CAN, WE CAN EXIT DART AND WE CAN TAKE THAT MONEY AND LOWER THE TAX RATE, RIGHT? USE SOME OF THAT MONEY LIKE YOU'RE SAYING NOW AND TRY TO BRING IN DEVELOPERS OR USE IT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THE WAY THAT I'M APPROACHING DART IS I WOULD MUCH RATHER MAKE THAT $17 MILLION INVESTMENT BECAUSE THAT INVESTMENT MAKES US MORE COMPETITIVE, RIGHT? SO IF YOU LOOK WHAT HAPPENED LAST MONTH, RIGHT? THERE'S THIS COMPANY OUTTA FORT WORTH, LONE CYPRESS.
THEY, THEY PURCHASED 15 3 0 1 SPECTRUM DRIVE, RIGHT? 118,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE TOWER.
THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT WE NEED, RIGHT? SO I KNOW EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM KNOWS IT, RIGHT? WE DID THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS WHO WE WANNA BE IN 50 YEARS.
THE MARKET POSITION REPORT THAT WE DID ASSOCIATED WITH THAT JUST TELLS US WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
AND IT'S SCARY, RIGHT? OFFICE IS TIRED.
WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE HOTEL AND HOW TIRED IT IS TO ME.
WE'RE NOT GONNA OUTSPEND MCKINNEY, WE'RE NOT GONNA OUTSPEND FRISCO, RIGHT? YOU SAID IT THE OTHER NIGHT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MCKINNEY AND FRISCO, THEY'RE GOING THERE BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER.
THEY'RE GOING THERE BECAUSE IT'S A BLANK SLATE.
THERE'S VACANT LAND WITH UTILITIES ALREADY THERE.
DEVELOPERS CAN COME IN AND THEY CAN BUILD MUCH CHEAPER.
WHAT WE NEED, BECAUSE WE'RE DEVELOPED IN THE EIGHTIES, WE NEED REDEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? TO WAYNE'S POINT, WE NEED PEOPLE TO COME IN AND KNOCK DOWN SOME OF THOSE HOTELS AND PUT A PRODUCT THERE THAT FITS WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT'S THE DIFFERENTIATOR, IS THAT RAIL IS A DIFFERENTIATOR.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA COMPETE DOLLAR WISE WITH MCKINNEY AND FRISCO, BUT IF WE MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO COME INTO THE TOWN, WE GET MORE PEOPLE LIKE L TYPE OR SPYING THE SPECTRUM.
THERE'S THIS FLIGHT TO QUALITY, RIGHT? WE'RE TRY, BUSINESSES ARE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE BACK INTO THE OFFICE.
HOW DO THEY DO THAT? THEY, THEY PUT 'EM IN PLACES THAT HAVE WORKOUT FACILITIES, RIGHT? UM, IT'S WALKABLE TO RESTAURANTS AND BARS.
WE JUST NEED PEOPLE TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT.
AND I THINK THE THING TO DO IT IS THE RAIL MAKE IT EASIER TO GET INTO THE TOWN.
WE, WE GOT SOME GREAT IDEAS TO CONNECT THE STATION TO ALL THOSE OFFICE TOWERS.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE THING THAT DOES IT.
I'M, I'M, I'D LIKE TO SPEND MAYBE FIVE MORE MINUTES AND THEN TAKE A BREAK.
I, WE CAN CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE TAKE A BREAK HERE AND STRETCH IT OUT FOR A SECOND.
I JUST WANT TO ADD 30 SECONDS TO CHRIS'S COMMENT.
AND, AND MAYBE IT'S AN OPEN-ENDED QUESTION FOR THE, FOR EVERYONE IN THE ROOM IS IF WE, IF WE LOOK AT THE VENDOR, WHICH VENDOR IS DART
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AND WE ARE THE CUSTOMER, AND IF WE, IF WE WERE TO BE FLIPPING THE FLIPPING THE SCRIPT ADDISON RUNS, LET'S CALL IT ADDISON, INSTEAD OF CALLING IT DART AND WE WERE THE CEOS AND WE WERE THE CFOS AND WE WERE THE BOARD, UM, WE WOULD PROBABLY, PROBABLY TAKE A HARD LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SAY, WAIT, LIKE TO RANDY'S POINT AT ONE POINT WAS I SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO RIDE THIS PRODUCT FOR A DOLLAR 50.IT'S A BRAND NEW, $2 BILLION TRAIN.
HOW WE GOT TO 2 BILLION IS UP FOR DISCUSSION.
HOWEVER, SHOULD, SHOULD THERE BE A PROCESS AS ANY OF THOSE HAVE TRAVELED IN EUROPE, YOU CAN UPGRADE YOUR CAR.
I CAN GO INTO A SECURED MORE FANCY, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE AMENITIES ARE, I CAN GET INTO A LOCKED CAR FOR $5 OR $20, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT PRODUCT, THAT THAT VENDOR HAS CHALLENGED THEMSELF TO, TO DRAW THE AUDIENCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT AUDIENCE AND THAT SURVEYS HAVE BEEN DONE, DOESN'T FEEL SAFE GETTING ON THAT PRODUCT ENOUGH OF THE TIME.
WHETHER THE OPTICS OF IT, REGARDLESS, I'M NOT HERE TO ARGUE THAT POINT.
I DON'T THINK THAT VENDOR HAS CHALLENGED THEMSELF TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH THAT CUSTOMER THAT WE WANT COMING INTO OUR TOWN TO NOT GO TO, LET'S SAY POTBELLY, BUT TO GO TO CHAMBERLAINS FOR LUNCH OR TO GO TO HUDSON OR TO GO TO A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT VERSUS, I CALL IT FAST SERVICE, WHETHER THAT BE CHIPOTLE AND ON AND ON AND ON.
I, I I WOULD DON'T, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
I JUST WANT THAT TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
IF THIS IS GONNA BE HAD, UH, I'M GONNA JUST SAY THIS BACK TO CHRIS AND I DON'T REALLY WANT TO GET IN A MATCH HERE WITH YOU, BUT YOU'RE A BANKER AND IF ANY BUSINESS CAME TO YOU AND SHOWED YOU THE FINANCIALS THAT DART HAS, I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU WOULD APPROVE THEM FOR A LOAN.
THEY HAVE TAKEN ON A TON OF REVENUE AND THEY'VE BORROWED $9.7 BILLION AND THEIR MODEL DOESN'T WORK.
AND AS A BANKER, YOU WOULD NOT APPROVE THAT, IN MY OPINION.
I, WHEN YOU'RE DONE, I'D LOOK TO OKAY.
I I JUST, I WAS SAYING THERE'S POT OF MONEY.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT MY, MY QUE SO SO WAYNE BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT ON 2.6.
DO WE WANT TO CHANGE REV, UH, CHANGE THAT TO REVITALIZE AND REDEVELOP HOTELS AND MEETING SPACE OR NO? YES.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
UM, I'D JUST LOVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD DIRECTION TO GO ON NOW.
I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT 2.5 ALSO IF WE'RE DONE WITH THAT ONE.
SO LEVERAGE JUST KIND OF SEEMS MEDIOCRE, UM, ON LEVERAGE.
ADDISON AIRPORT, I WROTE DOWN A PHRASE HERE, POSITION ADDISON AIRPORT AS A SIGNATURE CORPORATE GATEWAY AND POWERFUL DRIVER OF BOTH ECONOMIC GROWTH.
BUT THE ESSENCE OF THAT, I MEAN, NOT THINKING THE AIRPORT IS SO MUCH OF A TRANSPORTATION MEANS, BUT MORE OF AN ECONOMIC DRIVER AND AN E ECONOMIC ATTRACTION, UM, FROM A CORPORATE STANDPOINT, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE, THAT WE THINK OF MO MO MANY THINGS IN ADDISON AS A, UH, A DRIVER OF THE ECONOMY.
LIKE THEY ADD SOME PERFORMING ARTS CENTER THAT'S THE DRIVER OF THE ECONOMY ALSO IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
I, I THINK THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GO ON OUR OBJECTIVE LEVEL AS WELL.
JUST, JUST F YI PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
I JUST, UM, I THINK WHEN WE GET INTO THIS MORE, IT WON'T, WE WON'T, WE WON'T PUT IT IN THERE, BUT MAYBE NOT, NOT UNDER E WELL, YES, BUT MAYBE NOT UNDER THIS.
KFA, DARREN, DARREN IS THE WORD OPTIMIZE INSTEAD OF LEVERAGE? IS MAYBE THAT A BETTER WORD TO USE AS A DESCRIPTOR? I, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, WELL, THE FULL VERBIAGE OF THAT IS, IS LEVERAGE THE ADDISON AIRPORT TO MAXIMIZE BUSINESS GROWTH AND EXPANSION.
THESE ARE TRUNK VERSIONS IN ORDER TO FIT ON THE SLIDE, PLEASE.
LIKE MAYOR IS DOING REFERRED TO.
I THOUGHT IT WAS BIGGER THAN THAT.
AND AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND JUST HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON AND SAY, LET'S TAKE A BREAK HERE RIGHT NOW.
I'M GONNA CALL US BACK AT 30 AFTER.
SO TAKE 10 MINUTES TO STRETCH IT OUT HERE AND WE'LL CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.
I APPRECIATE THE ROBUSTNESS OF THE DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC.
THANKS FOR THE PARTICIPATION IN THE DISCUSSION THIS MORNING.
UM, COMMENTS ARE BEING CAPTURED.
SO AGAIN, JUST KNOW AS WE'RE TALKING, THOSE COMMENTS ARE BEING CAPTURED AS YOU'RE INDICATING PREFERENCES AS YOU'RE TALKING THROUGH POTENTIAL INITIATIVES THAT'S GETTING CAPTURED.
UM, ALSO, I JUST WANNA REMIND YOU, THIS IS NOT YOUR LAST BITE OF THE APPLE.
SO THERE IS ADDITIONAL TIME IN FEBRUARY WHERE THINGS WILL COME BACK TO YOU.
SO JUST KNOW THAT IT'S NOT INKED TODAY, RIGHT? THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR YOU TO SEE THINGS, TO WEIGH IN ON THINGS.
SO THAT'S JUST NOT, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT AS WELL.
SO AS WE GO THROUGH THESE DISCUSSIONS, WE WANNA GET THE BULK OF THE WORK DONE TODAY.
JUST KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK THAT HAPPENS AFTER THIS AS WELL.
UH, WITH THAT SAID, LET'S GO MOVE ON FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION, UM, AND GET INTO THIS ONE, WHICH IS FINANCIAL HEALTH AND ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE.
UH, SO AGAIN, WHEN IT CAME TO THIS, WE HAVE STRONG AGREEMENT, A HUNDRED PERCENT
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SUPPORTIVE.SO NOTHING HERE THAT WAS BEING FLAGGED AS A MAJOR ISSUE.
UM, KEEP THESE, UH, SO THESE THREE WERE BASICALLY STRAIGHT UPKEEP, NO OBJECTIONS, FULL SUPPORT, NOTHING HERE.
AND AGAIN, TRUNCATED WORDS UP HERE.
THE ACTUAL PHRASING IS SITTING IN FRONT OF YOU.
SO IF YOU NEED TO FLIP TO THAT FOR THE ACTUAL PHRASING OF IT, UM, MODIFY.
ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS TO MODIFY WAS ON FIVE FOUR, IT WAS REMOVE AND OR EXPANDING AND OR EXPANDING.
UM, AND THEN IN THIS CASE, THE NEXT BOND, UH, THE NEXT BOND ELECTION, THERE WAS A SUGGESTION TO MAKE IT SPECIFIC TO POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MUNICIPAL COURT FACILITIES.
SO THERE WAS THE DESIRE TO POTENTIALLY MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE PRESCRIPTIVE.
AND IN THIS ONE, UM, POTENTIALLY REMOVE AND OR EXPANDING.
I OPENED THESE UP FOR DISCUSSION IN THIS CASE.
AND ON THESE, GENERALLY SPEAKING, 'CAUSE THERE WASN'T ANY OBJECTION TO THOSE.
SEEMED LIKE WE WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THEM.
BUT SOME GUIDANCE UNDER INITIATIVES UNDER THERE.
UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UH, TO MEASURE PERFORMANCE.
THE TOWN STAFF DOES AN INCREDIBLE JOB AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IT MEASURED.
I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, THE, UM, SOME OF THE MEASUREMENTS BE BY PRIVATE SECTOR PERFORMANCE, UM, SO THAT WE, UH, WE CAN BE KIND OF, UM, HAVE THE VIEW BROADER THAN, UH, GOVERNMENT, UM, PUBLIC LEVEL, BUT PRIVATE SECTOR PERFORMANCE ALSO.
SO YOU HAVE THE SAME OR OTHER, OTHER MEASURES IN THERE.
LIKE I'VE BEEN TALKING TO DAVID ALSO, SO I THINK THINK THAT'S GOOD TO CARRY FORTH, BUT IT, IT DOES FIT UNDER 5.2.
SO SOME POTENTIAL INITIATIVES IN THERE.
YOU KNOW, UM, 'CAUSE I, I THINK EVERYONE AGREES WITH THE LANGUAGE ON 5.2.
UH, CERTAINLY, BUT I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE THERE.
AND IT, THIS, IT COULD LEAD TO FURTHER CONVERSATION.
SO OBVIOUSLY WE'VE DONE OUR RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION THE CA PAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WILL CONTINUE SEEING REALLY GOOD SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT FOR THE BOTTOM LINE AND JUST THE WAY WE OPERATE.
AND THE NEXT STEP, WHICH I MENTIONED TO COUNCIL BRIEFLY, THAT WE WILL BE KICKING OFF IS GOING, UH, DIVISION BY DIVISION, FUNCTION BY FUNCTION, AND DOING DEEP ANALYSIS OF ARE THERE MORE EFFICIENT WAYS, BETTER WAYS, COST, SAVING WAYS, CAN WE SHARE RESOURCES DIVISION BY DIVISION AND PROVIDING A REPORT ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
SO I DON'T WANT TO, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE THERE, BUT I WANT TO SH JUST NOTE WHEN YOU SEE THOSE INITIATIVES, THAT IS A HUGE FOCUS FOR US AS WE GO FORWARD.
AND SO A CONTINUING RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION, THE NEXT STEP WILL BE DOING THOSE DIVISION BY DIVISION MANAGE COMPETITION TYPE ANALYSIS OF ARE WE OPERATING IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY THAT MAKES THE MOST FISCAL SENSE? AM I HEARING YOU SAY RE REDUCE REDUNDANCY, REDUCE REDUNDANCY, JUST COMMON SENSE WAYS TO BE MORE EFFICIENT.
CAN WE SHARE RESOURCES? ALL OF THAT.
THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
THAT'S BIG UNDERTAKING AND IT'S A GOOD ONE.
LET'S MAYBE HIT THAT ONE FOR A SECOND.
UM, SO I WAS ON COUNCIL BACK IN TWO TH 2018 WHEN WE, WE CREATED A, UH, STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE TO CONDUCT A FACILITIES CONSOLIDATION STUDY.
AND, UM, SO THAT WAS OUR, THAT WAS OUR FOCUS THEN.
AND, UM, NOT SURE HOW WE GOT TO, UH, EXPANDING, EXPANDING THE WORD EXPANDING FACILITIES, UM, EXPANDING TOWN FACILITIES SPECIFICALLY.
SO RIGHT NOW, 5.5 0.4 IN OUR STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES READS AS FOLLOWS, EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CONSOLIDATING AND OR EXPANDING TOWN FACILITIES.
AND, UM, I'M, I'M PROPOSING WE CHANGE THAT.
WE MODIFY IT JUST TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UM, TOWN FACILITY CONSOLIDATION OR FACILITY CONSOLIDATION RATHER THAN, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE LOOKING TO, TO ADD OR EXPAND, EXPAND TOWN FACILITIES RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THE CONTEXT OF THAT WAS BEFORE WE, WHEN WE WERE KIND OF, UH, LOOSELY CON CONSIDERING, UH, MAYBE A, A NEW TOWN HALL.
UH, AND ONE OF THE OPTIONS WAS RETOOLING THE, UH, THE, UH, WHAT ARE THE WORDS, UH, WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.
UM, SO THAT WAS THE LEGACY ON THAT.
BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT DIDN'T GO EXPANDING.
IT MEANT IT WENT INTO RETOOLING AND REUSING WHAT WE HAVE.
WE NEED TO TAKE OFF EXPANDING.
ARE WE EXPANDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REMAINING BIGGER? WELL, I THINK
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AN ITEM OF IS EXPANDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S DIFFERENT THAN, LET'S SAY EXPANDING OTHER BUILDINGS.I THINK THE GENERAL PREMISE THAT MARLIN'S GETTING AT IS THE BUILDINGS, THE MASS OF THE BUILDINGS WE HAVE ALREADY NOT LOOKING TO EXPAND THOSE.
THE NEXT ONE ADDRESSES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO DOES ANYBODY, UH, HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON 5.4? I DON'T, I'M FINE TO TAKE IT OFF.
DO YOU WANT ME TO MODIFY IT? NO, TO MODIFY MY SO GO AHEAD DAVID.
SO I MEAN, IT IS A GOOD TIME JUST TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN, IN AND OF ITSELF.
IS THERE STILL A DESIRE FROM COUNSEL THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FURTHER CONSOLIDATION RIGHT NOW? WE HAVE HAVING THE CONVERSATION ON THE POLICE STATION.
WE'VE DONE WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH, WITH TOWN HALL.
WHEN YOU SAY CONSOLIDATION, IS THAT A 10 YEAR, HEY, 10 YEARS WE WANNA LOOK AT SOMETHING? OR IS THERE STILL A DESIRE TO LOOK AT SOME KIND OF CONSOLIDATION TODAY? YEAH, I THINK IT'S JUST YEAR TO YEAR.
EACH COUNCIL IS GOING TO MODIFY THIS ANY WHICH WAY THEY WANT TO.
BUT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE FINANCE BUILDING TO CONSIDER.
UM, AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE THERE'S GOING TO BE SITUATIONS.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, BUT I, I CAN SEE, UH, SITUATIONS WHERE IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD, UM, HAVE TWO F HAVE TWO FACILITIES COME TOGETHER.
LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING A, A GREAT JOB OF THAT.
WELL, SO I THINK DAVID MAKES A GOOD POINT THOUGH.
'CAUSE 'CAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE'RE NOT LOOKING LONG TERM HERE, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT COULD WE, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY IMPLEMENT THIS YEAR.
I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE US DOING ANY NEW CONSOLIDATION THIS YEAR, OR EVEN GETTING SOMETHING STARTED UNLESS SOMETHING, SOMEBODY HAS SOMETHING ON THEIR MIND THAT, UH, THAT THEY WOULD BE THINKING ABOUT.
MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT FOR THIS YEAR.
IT'LL, IT CAN ALWAYS COME BACK.
AND AGAIN, THE FINANCE BUILDING IS AN OBVIOUS ONE.
UM, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY CONSOLIDATION.
THEY'RE JUST GONNA, WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY.
SO YOU'RE SAYING JUST ELIMINATE BY 0.4, MAYBE TAKE IT ON? YEAH.
OR MAYBE SOMETHING THAT, SOMETHING THAT, UH, HAS A PLACE TO CONSIDER TOWN FACILITIES, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FINANCE BUILDING TO CONSIDER AND THEN WE HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS.
DO WE HAVE ANY, WHAT WHAT ELSE IS LEFT ON THE, THE PLAN FOR THE TOWN FACILITIES THAT WE DID? I, I MEAN, HAVE HAVING A, HAVING A CONVERSATION ON THE FINANCE BUILDING AND THE FINANCE PROPERTY IS THE NEXT ONE TO DISCUSS.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S THE NEXT BIG CONVERSATION TO HAVE FROM FACILITIES OUTSIDE OF OBVIOUSLY THE POLICE STATION.
SO AFTER THOSE TWO, IS THERE, IS THERE A, A DISTANT THIRD? I THINK THE, THERE, THE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN YEARS TO COME WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, RENOVATIONS CHANGES TO THE FIRE STATIONS, BUT THAT'S NOT A NEW TIME SOON.
NO, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH REMOVING IT.
IS THIS NOT ONE OF THEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THAT JUST KIND OF ROLLS OVER EVERY YEAR AND IT, AND IT'S JUST KIND OF A, SOMETHING TO KEEP ON THERE TO WHERE IT'S AT THE FRONT OF OUR MIND.
I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN IN THE NEXT YEAR, BUT THERE'S MANY OF THESE THAT IS JUST KIND OF A, A CONTINUALLY PROCESS OF KEEP THIS IN MIND FOR WHEN WE DO START THINKING ABOUT IT.
IF, IF THIS IS ONLY ONE YEAR PLAN, I WOULD AGREE.
BUT WELL, 'CAUSE BECAUSE WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT DASHBOARD AND WE'LL SAY, WELL, WHAT KIND OF PROGRESS ARE WE MAKING ON THIS? WELL, THERE'S NO PROGRESS.
SO IF, IF WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE ANY PROGRESS ON IT THIS YEAR, WHY NOT? WE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, PUT IT ON, ON THE, UH, BACK BURNER AND IT CAN COME BACK ANY OTHER TIME.
WE, WE START SEEING A NEED FOR, FOR CONSOLIDATION.
BUT I JUST DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE US EVEN HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT THIS YEAR.
BUT THEN THERE PROBABLY IS GONNA BE A LOT OF THESE THAT WERE, IF, IF IT'S NOT A ONE YEAR THING, THE NEXT 12 MUST TAKE 'EM ALL OFF.
I'D LIKE TO HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON ON THAT FOR A SECOND, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A ONE TO THREE YEAR, LIKE, I WANT YOU THINKING OF THREE YEAR HORIZON FOR THIS.
SO ONE YEAR IS THE ACTIONABILITY TIMELINE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NEXT YEAR AND HOW WE'RE GONNA ACHIEVE ACTION THREE YEARS IS THE MENTAL HORIZON.
I KIND OF WANT, YOU'RE WORKING ON, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME OF THESE THAT ARE LONGER TERM, SHORTER TERM.
SO SOME OF THESE ARE GONNA BE IN THE FIRST YEAR.
SOME OF THESE ARE GONNA BE 3, 4, 5 YEARS.
BUT WHAT'S THE ACTION WE COULD TAKE IN THE HORIZON THAT WE'VE GOT HERE? NOT THAT WE WILL TAKE THAT ACTION, BUT IF YOU ARE INTENDING TO CONSOLIDATE TOWN FACILITIES OR THAT KIND OF THING IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, LET'S HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, THEN IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO POSSIBLY REMOVE THAT.
SO IF I COULD OFFER ONE THING, POSSIBLY, IF YOU KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THIS, UM, STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE, WE'VE TRIED TO TRY TO USE IT AS A CATCHALL TO SOME DEGREE TOO.
LIKE WE DIDN'T HAVE A, WE'RE DOING OUR SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS AT THE BUILDINGS AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A PLACE FOR THAT.
SO WE HAD, WE PUT IT UNDER THIS ONE SO WE COULD JUST, YOU COULD MAKE IT MORE BROAD OF, HEY, WE WANT TO IMPROVE AND MODERNIZE OUR FACILITIES AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
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WHICH IF YOU SAY SOMETHING LIKE, IF AN OPPORTUNITY COMES UP TO CONSOLIDATE, MAYBE WE, IT CAN STILL FIT IN THERE, BUT MAYBE YOU JUST CHANGE THE VERBIAGE SO IT CAN INCORPORATE MORE OF IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE UP.THAT SEEMS TO FIT A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.
DO WE, WE COULD JUST RENAME THAT.
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY YOU DON'T WANT A BUILDING THAT'S NOT WATERPROOFED OR SECURE TIGHT MEANING SAFETY.
YOU DON'T WANT OUR EMPLOYEES COMING TO WORK FEELING THEY'RE NOT SAFE.
I THINK I LIKE WHAT DAVID JUST SAID BETTER, BUT I WAS GONNA SAY WHY NOT PUT EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE FINANCE BUILDING AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S GONNA BE THE NEXT ONE TO THREE YEARS.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE MODERNIZING EXISTING BUILDING IS IN THAT, AND MAYBE WHAT YOU JUST SAID COULD BE UNDER THE INITIATIVES AND NOT THE UH.
THAT SEEMS LIKE A THOUGHTFUL WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT FACILITIES WE'RE TARGETING.
WE CAN GET SPECIFIC AT THAT NEXT LAYER, THAT SHORT OF A WINDOW, ONE TO THREE YEARS.
THOSE TWO ARE GONNA COME INTO THAT.
THERE'S NOT ANYTHING ELSE WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO, OKAY, SO, SO CAN YOU REPEAT THE, THE PHRASING THAT YOU JUST GAVE DAVID? 'CAUSE YOU GAVE A PHRASING THERE.
THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO ME ALL THE TIME.
SO I'M JUST PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT RIGHT BACK BY YOU.
CAN WE, WE RUN THE TAPE? WE SHOULD CHECK WITH OUR SCRIBE.
THINK I SAID, UH, I THINK I SAID SOMETHING LIKE IMPROVE AND MODERNIZE, UM, UH, TOWN FACILITIES.
UM, SO LEAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE CAN, WE CAN WORDSMITH IT A LITTLE BIT.
IT SOUNDED A LOT BETTER FIRST.
I KNOW, I KNOW
I GOTTA SAY IT WITH CONFIDENCE.
SAY IT WITH THE CONFIDENCE THAT WE'RE YEAH.
IMPROVE AND MODERNIZE THESE FACILITIES.
LITTLE FOUR SCORE AND SEVEN YEARS AGO STYLE.
UM, GEN GENERALLY SPEAKING, DO WE HAVE SOME SUPPORT FOR THAT REPHRASING OF THIS? YEP.
AGAIN, LATER ON, WE WILL GIVE YOU COPIES OF WHAT THE, WHAT THESE CHANGES LOOK LIKE.
SO YOU'LL HAVE THE CHANCE TO REACT TO ALL THESE CHANGES AND BE ABLE TO SEE THEM ALL.
SO YOU HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THEM ALL.
UM, HEY, NICK, COULD JUST FOR FOR A MOMENT, COULD WE JUMP BACK TO 5.2? YES, SIR.
BECAUSE THE, THE, THE FULL OBJECTIVE IS, IS IS, UH, IMPLEMENT CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT OF BUSINESS PROCESS EFFICIENCIES, MAXIMIZING THE ADDISON WAY IN BRAND.
SO AGAIN, WE HAVE THE ADDISON WAY IN THAT, SHOULD WE JUST SAY MAXIMIZING THE ADDISON BRAND? YEAH.
I SHOULD KEEP ADDISON WAY IN THERE BECAUSE THIS IS VERY MUCH INTERNAL AND THE ADDISON WAY IS KIND OF AN INTERNAL CULTURE.
UM, AND IT HELPS KEEP IT IN FOCUS.
MEANING THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA CUT TO THE, TO THE, TO THE BONE.
WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA LABEL A LITTLE EXTRA ON THERE BECAUSE DOING THINGS, THE THOUGHT WILL WAY, THOUGHTFUL WAY THAT WE DO IN ADDISON REQUIRES A LITTLE EXTRA.
THIS WAS ONE OF THE REFERENCED ADDISON WAY.
IT'S BEEN BAKED INTO SEVERAL DIFFERENT POINTS.
SO THIS IS THE DISCUSSION YES.
TO, TO ME, IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT SEEMS REDUNDANT.
I, WHEN I READ IT, I JUST KIND OF INCLUDE IT WITH ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT'S PART OF OUR BRAND.
YOU AGREE WITH REMOVING IT? REMOVING, OKAY.
JUST REMOVE TOWARDS WAY AND, AND, UM, BRAND.
AND JUST TAKE THE TWO WORDS YEAH.
AND, AND SO GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE AGAIN, DID YOU HAVE A THOUGHT? OKAY.
SO WE'RE GONNA REMOVE ADDISON, THAT WE'RE GONNA KEEP BRAND IN THERE THOUGH.
THANK YOU FOR THAT GREAT POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
UH, HOW ABOUT THIS FOR 5.5 DEVELOPED PLAN FOR NEXT BOND ELECTION, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MUNICIPAL COURTS FACILITIES WAS KIND OF THE SPECIFIC ADDITION REQUESTED TO THIS? YEAH, I, I PROPOSED THAT.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SOME, SOME FUTURE BOND ELECTIONS? SO, UH, I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION.
I MEAN, I, I THINK WE ALL NEED THAT.
STAFF DEFINITELY NEEDS THAT, THAT SETTLED INTO THE POLICE STATION.
SO CAN WE JUST BE SPECIFIC AND JUST, UM, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE FINISH LINE, BUT HOPEFULLY DEVELOP A POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, BOND ELECTION.
WELL, SOMETHING TO THAT NATURE.
IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE THAT SPECIFIC WORDING.
DO YOU MEAN DEVELOP A PLAN TO IMPLEMENT WHAT? THE BOND ELECTION, WHAT THE RESULTS OF THE BOND ELECTION ARE IMPLE IMPLEMENT A, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT BOND ELECTION, SOMETHING.
OH, I THINK, YEAH, I WOULD SAY, UM, EITHER IMPLE IMPLEMENT WITH A, PROCEED WITH A, A BOND ELECTION.
BECAUSE IF AT FIRST, IF YOU ALL CALL AN ELECTION AND IF IT PASSES, IT WOULD BE MID-YEAR, WE'D PROBABLY DO NEXT STEPS OF, WE'RE GONNA GO FOR DESIGN AND THINGS LIKE
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THAT.SO I THINK SOMETHING THAT WE JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS SO WE COULD ADD INITIATIVES THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, GET THOSE THINGS HAPPEN.
AND I, MY FOCUS WAS IS I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
RATHER THAN JUST LIKE ANYTHING, SOMETHING, ANOTHER BOND ELECTION NEEDS TO BE SPECIFIC, RIGHT? SO, SO THAT'S SUGGESTIONS BEEN PUT OUT THERE, DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE SUGGESTION OF MAKING IT MORE SPECIFIC VERSUS LEAVING IT AS IS A FAN OF MORE SPECIFIC.
I'M NOT, EITHER WAY, I'M FINE EITHER WAY IS OKAY FOR YOU.
YOU, I FEEL LIKE THAT CAPTURES THE LOCK, THE BOTH THE PLAN.
SO ARE YOU IN SUPPORT OF THE, THE REPHRASING OR IS IT MORE JUST LEAVE IT AS IS? I'M, I'M FOLLOW LOOKING AT AS IT IS.
HALF A DOZEN TO 1 6, 1 HALF A DOZEN DOZEN ME.
I, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE THAT THIS BOND ELECTION TO BE IN THE FALL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NEEDS TO COME IN HERE OR NOT.
AND MAYBE THIS DEVELOPS A PLAN.
IS ENC CUMBERSOME OF COULD BE MAY, COULD BE NOVEMBER.
I'M IN FAVOR OF THE FALL ON THIS ONE.
AT THIS POINT I'M NOT SEEING THE POINT TO MODIFY IT.
WE'RE JUST SEEING, BASICALLY LEAVE IT AS IS SEEMS TO BE THE STATUS QUO.
WE SEEM TO BE OKAY WITH THAT, GENERALLY SPEAKING.
CAN, CAN WE JUST GO REAL QUICK BECAUSE I THINK WE, UH, WHAT I HEARD IS TWO SPECIFIC, TWO, TWO PEOPLE SAY, HEY, I WANNA MODIFY IT.
TWO SAID, LEAVE IT AS IS AND THE OTHERS OR SEEM TO BE INDIFFERENT.
SO, SO WE'D LIKE TO HEAR SOME PREFERENCE AROUND THE ROOM.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY, UM, WHERE WE STAND, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT.
I'D LIKE IT TO BE SPECIFIC, OBVIOUSLY.
WELL, I, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE A NEED TO, TO MAKE A CHANGE.
I'M OKAY WITH ADDING POLICE TO IT SPECIFIC.
YOU GOTTA GIVE ONE, DEVELOP A PLAN.
WE'VE ALREADY DEVELOPED A PLAN FOR THE NEXT BOND LAST, CORRECT.
WE'VE ALREADY DEVELOPED THE PLAN FOR THE NEXT BOND ELECTION MINUS VOTE MODE, MINUS THE COUNCIL VOTE TO TAKE IT TO AN ELECTION.
SO, BUT IT'S NOT COMPLETE THOUGH.
BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE STILL IN DEVELOPMENT ON IT.
SO I THINK KEEPING THAT VERBIAGE IS PROBABLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
I, I THINK YOU MAKE A, I THINK YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT THAT IT IS STILL IN DEVELOPMENT.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD, THIS IS NOT A VOTING ARENA, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD LEAVE IT AS IS.
I, I'M FINE WITH THE WAY IT IS.
AS IS, HAS IT? NO STRONG OBJECTS.
THANKS FOR THAT DISCUSSION ON THIS.
AT THIS POINT, WE'RE FEELING GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
AGAIN, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, THERE IS NO OBJECTION.
THERE'S NO SIGNIFICANT OBJECTION.
WE HAVE CONSENT ON THIS IN GENERAL.
THERE'S NOTHING HERE THAT'S CAUSING ANYBODY TO FLAG OUT.
JUST FIGURED I'D THROW IT UP THERE AND SEE IF WE HAVE GENERAL SUPPORT TO MOVE ON.
YOU LOOK AT US ROLLING FRIENDS.
ALRIGHT, NOW WE GET INTO THE FUN STUFF.
SO I JUST WANNA PREFACE THIS BY SAYING WE'VE DISCUSSED TWO DIFFERENT VARIATIONS ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
ONE, I'LL SAY NOBODY'S AGAINST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
I HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU IN ONE-ON-ONE SPECIFIC TO THIS TOPIC BECAUSE IT HAS COME UP EVERY YEAR.
WE'VE MEANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS, BUT WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THE EXACT SAME THING.
SO I JUST WANNA STAGE THAT, WHICH IS TO SAY, STAFF'S DOING A GOOD JOB IN GENERAL OUTREACH.
WE WOULD LIKE MORE PARTICIPATION FROM THE PUBLIC RELATED TO SPECIFIC TOPICS.
WE WOULD LIKE SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE, DOOR TO DOOR STYLE.
SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE MORE, GET INTO THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY GET AFTER IT BEFORE IT COMES TO A VOTE WITH COUNSEL.
THAT WAS THE GENERAL NATURE OF THE CONVERSATION.
NOT THAT ANYTHING'S HAPPENING WRONG, JUST THAT WE ENCOURAGE MORE OF THE RIGHT BEHAVIORS IN THIS.
SO THERE WAS NO DESIRE TO GET RID OF ANY OF THESE EITHER.
SO IT WASN'T THAT WE DIDN'T, WE VALUE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER IT SHOULD BE ROLLED INTO VIBRANT ACTIVE COMMUNITY OR WHETHER IT SHOULD BE SEPARATED OUT AND IMBUED IN OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO DO WE TAKE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
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AND START TO PUT IT IN OTHER AREAS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN? OR DO WE TAKE ELEMENTS OF THIS AND WRAP IT INTO VIBRANT ACTIVE COMMUNITY? THOSE WERE TWO SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP SO FAR.THAT'S THE STARTING POINT FOR THE DISCUSSION.
SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS RELATED TO THIS.
SO AGAIN, UM, NOTHING HERE THAT'S, AND AGAIN, THE ADDISON WAY CONVERSATION CAME UP AGAIN HERE.
HAVE THAT, YEAH, I'D LOVE TO JUMP IN HERE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHERS, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY AN IDEA OF MIND.
FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WE DO AN EXCELLENT JOB OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
IS IT PERFECT? NO, IT'LL NEVER BE PERFECT.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS, UM, REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE.
BUT, BUT AS FAR AS OUR EFFORTS, UM, I FEEL THAT THEY'RE PERFECT AND WE, AND, AND WE'VE GOT A TON OF, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
BUT, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY, TWO THINGS.
I DON'T REALLY SEE IT WHEN I HAVE TO PRIORITIZE AS THE TOP SEVEN.
AND, AND I THINK A VIBRANT, ACTIVE COMMUNITY HAS, HAS GOOD COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
SO I, I DON'T WANNA REMOVE IT.
I JUST THINK WE SHOULD PLACE IT AS A STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE UNDER VIBRANT ACTIVE COMMUNITY.
WHAT'S A, WHAT IS A VIBRANT ACTIVE COMMUNITY? IT'S A COMMUNITY SUPPLY.
WHEN I READ THAT, THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A PHYSICALLY ACTIVE AND VIBRANT COMMUNITY? RIGHT.
OR ARE WE UH, UH, THAT IS JUST SO BROAD THAT IT'S HARD FOR ME TO PUT YEAH.
SO, SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, ARE YOU LOOKING AT IT ALSO BY LOOKING AT THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES UNDERNEATH THAT AND THE INITIATIVES UNDERNEATH THAT? BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO, I THINK THAT HELP WILL HELP YOU KIND OF BETTER UNDERSTAND AND DEFINE WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DRIVING AT.
BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT AS A, AS A WHOLE RATHER THAN JUST, UM, THREE WORDS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHEN THEY READ THE NEWSPAPER, THEY READ THE HEADLINES.
THEN YOU GOTTA GET INTO THE ARTICLE.
I'M NOT SURE I CAN HELP ALL THOSE.
I'LL, I'LL, UH, SO I, I THINK I CAN SOME CONTEXT THOUGH, FROM, FROM MY RECOLLECTIONS FROM A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN WE CAME, WHEN WE KIND OF, WE SCRAPPED THE STRATEGIC PLAN, STRATEGIC PLAN AND STARTED OVER, WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT UP FRONT, SAID, PUBLIC SAFETY IS ONE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS TWO FISCAL.
THOSE WERE THE TOP THREE WERE THE TOP THREE.
AND THEN WE CAME UP WITH MOBILITY AND THESE OTHER ONES.
AND THEN WE GOT DOWN TO THE END AND WE SAID, OKAY, WELL WHERE ARE WE GONNA PUT ARTS AND PARKS AND RECREATION AND THESE THING AND COMMUN THOSE TYPE OF FUNCTIONS? AND IT WAS KIND OF A, WELL, WE NEED SOMEWHERE TO PUT THESE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ADDISON TOGETHER.
AND I, SO IT WAS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE WE WORKED, I THINK COUNCIL AT, I WORKED BACKWARDS TO SAY WE WANTED TO GET THESE THINGS INCLUDED AND CAME UP WITH THE LANGUAGE.
IF THERE IS BETTER LANGUAGE, LET'S CHANGE IT.
UM, BUT I THINK HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT.
WE WERE, AT THE TIME, COUNCIL WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE FIT ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO IN ADDISON, BUT THAT AREN'T PUBLIC SAFETY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND, AND I THINK THAT'S A, AN EXCELLENT POINT IS, YOU KNOW, IS A VIBRANT, ACTIVE COMMUNITY.
ONE THAT GOES TO THE THEATER, ONE THAT GOES, YOU KNOW, WALKS TO GET A HAMBURGER, RIGHT? OR RIGHT.
UH, I I THINK IT'S JUST A SUCH A LARGE CONANT, UM, WITH THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND, AND I, THAT'S JUST THE BIGGEST QUESTION WE'VE GOT IN THE ROOM TODAY.
HOW DO YOU DO THAT ANY BETTER THAN WE DO? AND YOU KNOW, WE GO TO ALL THESE EVENTS AND WE HAVE ALL THESE PRETTY PICTURES ON THE WALLS OF RENDERINGS AND PUT A STICKER ON IT IF YOU LIKE IT.
WELL, EVERYBODY'S GONNA LOVE A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE.
WELL, THEN THEY DON'T GET THE FULL PICTURE OF, THAT'S $10 MILLION.
IS IT PRETTY ENOUGH TO SPEND $10 MILLION ON, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, I THINK HAS TO BE MORE OF A COMPLETE EDUCATION OF THE PUBLIC AND ENGAGING.
UH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE WERE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, AND I THINK THERE WAS TRUE EFFORT TO HAVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, BUT WHEN WE ACTUALLY GOT OUT AND STARTED KNOCKING ON DOORS AND TALKING TO PEOPLE DOWN THE STREET, THEY'D NEVER HEARD OF THIS STUFF BEFORE.
NOT FAULTING OUR STAFF BECAUSE THEY DID WHAT THEY DID IN, IN THEIR PUBLIC ARENAS AND ALL.
UH, I, I JUST THINK THIS IS THE HARDEST THING THAT A TOWN CAN DO, IS HOW DO YOU GET COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO A LEVEL? IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE 8% OF YOUR POPULATION THAT VOTES, HOW DO YOU GET THE VOTING UP? SO IT'S ALL, HOW DO YOU GET MORE ENGAGEMENT? AND THAT'S RIGHT.
I THINK THAT'S THE MILLION DOLLAR
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QUESTION THAT EVERY, EVERY, EVERY CITY ASKS THAT.IT'S NOT UNIQUE BECAUSE WE ALL WANT EVERYBODY TO GET INVOLVED AND BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS, AND THE TRUTH IS THAT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF FOLKS, THEY DON'T WANT TO YEAH.
THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LIVES.
THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO FOLLOW WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL'S DOING.
YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THE WATER TURNS ON AND EL LEAST THEY THERE AND FIRE'S THERE.
HAPPY AS THE PLANT YOU WERE DESCRIBING, MOST CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE, WE WERE REALLY HAPPY UNTIL WE WEREN'T.
YOU CAN SPEAK FOR YOURSELF ON THAT.
BECAUSE, BECAUSE THAT, THAT DOES NOT DESCRIBE ME.
UM, I, I, I THINK EVERY COMMUNITY STRUGGLES WITH THIS.
UM, I MEAN, I'M ON THIS COUNCIL AND I, AND I, I MISS THINGS.
UM, SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHEN SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH SOMETIMES JUST BECAUSE AGAIN, LIKE LIFE GETS SO BUSY.
BUT I DO WANNA SAY THAT I THINK WE DO A BETTER JOB THAN MOST CITIES IN TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT AND EDUCATE.
SO KUDOS TO THE STAFF ON THAT.
AND, AND EVEN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE WHERE WE'VE, WE'VE PUT SIGNS IN, IN THE PARKS, YOU KNOW, TO, YOU KNOW, DO THIS QR CODE AND FILL OUT THE SURVEY, YOU KNOW, ONLINE, WE MAKE IT AS EASY WE POSSIBLY CAN AND PEOPLE JUST WALK PAST IT, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
YOU CAN'T FORCE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TO BE, TO BE INVOLVED IN AND ENGAGED IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS WE, WE MIGHT WANT TO.
AND, AND THE IDEA OF GOING DOOR TO DOOR, KNOCKING ON PEOPLE'S DOOR AND SAYING, YOU NEED TO BE ENGAGED.
YOU HERE'S THIS THING COMING UP.
AND, AND, AND HOW OFTEN DO YOU DO THAT? AND QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK PEOPLE WOULD BE UPSET.
WHY DO THEY, WHY IS THE CITY COME KNOCKING ON MY DOOR? YEAH.
I THINK, I THINK YOU GET A DIFFERENT KIND OF ENGAGEMENT THEN.
AND, AND, AND, AND WHICH THINGS DO YOU DO THAT FOR THEN? WE'D HAVE A CONSTANT FLOW.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE OUT AND WALKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, KNOCKING ON DOORS, HARASSING PEOPLE.
TO COMMENT ON, ON AGGRAVATING PEOPLE AT THE DOOR.
I I, EVEN WHEN YOU'RE CAMPAIGNING, I HATE TO DO THAT.
IT, THAT'S NOT A POPULAR THING TO DO.
NO, NOBODY WANTS YOU DOING THAT.
BUT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THE SIGNS AND THE PARKS AND THAT TYPE THING, I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT MY RESIDENTS THINK.
AND THE LARGEST MAJORITY OF THOSE PEOPLE WALKING ON OUR TRAILS, SPEAKING FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND GOING THROUGH THE PARKS, ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN ADDISON.
AND I REALLY DON'T CARE THAT THEY GET ON THAT QR CODE AND TELL ME THEY WANT A BRIDGE ACROSS A CREEK THAT RUNS INTO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AND WE SHOULD SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON SOMETHING TO GET THE DALLAS PEOPLE INTO ADDISON ON THAT.
AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT WALK THROUGH MY PARK IN NORTH ADDISON PARK, UH, PROBABLY 99.5% ADDISON RESIDENCE.
NOW I'M, I'M JU THAT'S WHY I'VE PREFACED IT.
OR WE'D HAVE THEM SILVER BULLET, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE THAT TO BE A GOOD POINT OF EMPHASIS IS ALL I'M SAYING THERE.
AND I WONDER, I WONDER HOW MUCH SOMEBODY THAT'S WALKING THROUGH ADDISON CIRCLE PARK AND THEY SEE A QR CODE TO DO, TO DO SOME ONLINE SURVEY.
I WONDER HOW MANY, IF IF I DIDN'T LIVE HERE, I WOULDN'T EVEN CONSIDER THAT TO DO IT IN ANOTHER CITY.
SO I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY PRETTY LOW NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT DO THAT.
WELL, I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT, AT OUR DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD ON DART, I THINK THE LARGE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT WAS SENDING US EMAILS AND TALKING WERE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T LIVE IN ADDISON THAT HAD NO VOTE.
WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S THE REGIONAL ASPECT OF THAT.
I, I'M JUST SAYING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT JUST ADDISON FOLKS THAT ARE AFFECTED.
WE ARE VERY UNIQUE THAT WE ARE SURROUNDED AND WE, WE ARE A COMMUNITY THAT DRAWS PEOPLE IN.
I, I'M GONNA ADD TO THAT, IF I CAN JUMP IN.
SO WE GET TO GO AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE GET TO GO AND SORT OF TOWN STAFF TO THESE TML CONFERENCES, NICK.
SO YOU GET 1200 MUNICIPALITIES UNDER ONE ROOFTOP.
UM, AND I SPEND MY TIME SORT OF NOT JUST BUCKLED TO ONE OF THESE GUY GOOFBALLS, BUT SORT OF COMMUNICATING AT LUNCH OR A BREAK OR ON A WAY TO GET A COFFEE WITH, I'LL LOOK AT THE NAMES ON THE POLOS, RIGHT? OH, YOU'RE FROM X, Y, OR Z TOWN.
AND SOME ARE BIG AND SOME ARE SMALL AND SOME ARE ON, NOT QUITE UNINCORPORATED, BUT THEY'RE RIGHT ON THAT PRECIPICE.
AND THEY HAVE THE EXACT SAME SENTIMENT, WHETHER THEY HAVE A MILLION, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE SIZE.
HOUSTON TO ADDISON, THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENT, WHICH IS WE TRY OUR BEST.
AND TO, TO HIS POINT, THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET.
BUT TO THE POINT OF HAVING TWO SEPARATE, WE'RE COMMUNITY IN TWO DIFFERENT STRATEGIC KFA.
I JUST THINK WE NEED TO ROLL IT INTO ONE BACK TO HIS POINT.
WHAT IS VIBRANT? IS IT WALKING? IS IT HOW PRETTY THE FLOWERS ARE? THAT CAN ALL BE PUT IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, IN MY OPINION.
SO THERE'S A VIBRANT ACT OF COMMUNITY, VIBRANT ACT COMMUNITY POINTS OF INTEREST.
IE PARKS CAN ROLL INTO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
'CAUSE YOU ARE GONNA ASK THEM TO ENGAGE, UH, THE OBJ PROJECT.
WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU, WE HAD THIS WHOLE THING PUT, PUT STICKERS ON THE THING, WHICH, WHICH IS PRETTIEST REGARDLESS OF COST.
BUT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN RIGHT UNDER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
SO IT'S EITHER TAKE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, PUT IT ON A
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VIBRANT, ACTIVE, OR FLIP IT.I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THE OPPOSITE IN TERMS OF THE DIRECTION.
I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE EXPERTS AND I'M WITH YOU.
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT UNDER VIBRANT, ACTIVE COMMUNITY.
IF YOU WERE GONNA AGAINST THAT WOULD BE WHERE I WOULD PUT IT.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO, CAN WE RENAME IT POSSIBLY BY VIBRANT AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY THAT WAY? YOU, BECAUSE I THINK ENGAGEMENT IS IMPORTANT.
I, AND I'M, I'M NOT STUCK TO IT.
UH, THE, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, LIKE I SAID, WAS BECAUSE, UH, A LOT OF RESIDENTS FELT LIKE THEY WEREN'T BEING HEARD.
UM, AND, AND THOSE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES.
AND I, I'LL, UM, UH, I'LL GIVE, UH, STAFF KUDOS FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH RESIDENTS, UH, THE SIGNS IN THE PARKS, YOU KNOW, GREAT IDEA.
MAYBE WE PUT IT ON THE SHELF AND TRY SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS IMPORTANT.
UH, BUT I'M FOR COMBINING 'EM.
AND I THINK VIBRANT AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY MAY BE, UH, A GOOD NAME FOR THAT.
WE KEEP IT AS VIBRANT, ACTIVE, FINE WITH THAT.
I'D LOVE TO HEAR SOME DISCUSSION AROUND THAT SUGGESTION.
I DON'T, I DON'T LOVE YOU LOSING THE WORD ACTIVE THOUGH.
I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF, I LIKE, OF WHO WE ARE.
WE ARE, I THINK VIBRANT IS ACTIVE, BUT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO LOSING OR NOT.
IT COULD BE VI VIBRANT, ACTIVE, AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
I I WAS THINKING THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU WERE THINKING.
UH, TAKE CLEAN ENGAGEMENT AND ROLLING IT UP UNDER VIBRANT, ACTIVE.
AND IF WE WANT TO THROW ENGAGEMENT, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT TOO.
YOU JUST CONSOLIDATE THESE POINTS DOWN IS THE KEY POINT WE'RE GETTING AT.
HOW DO YOU NAME IT? IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.
UH, ACTIVE COMMUNITY IS FINE OR VIBRANT.
THE PROBLEM IS STAFF'S DOING THEIR JOB.
I, I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT STAFF'S DOING THEIR JOB AND WE'RE DOING OUR JOB AND THE COMMUNITY IS NOT DOING THEIR JOB.
ALTHOUGH WE ARE GETTING IT OUT THERE.
I THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT, UH, GETTING THE IN, THEY'RE NOT ABSORBING THE INFORMATION.
THEY HAVE FAMILIES, THEY HAVE JOBS.
AND IF IT DOESN'T, IF WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS DOESN'T CONCERN THEM OR THEY DON'T THINK IT CONCERNS THEM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SHOW UP.
SO, UM, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP, KEEP ON KEEPING ON.
AND I, I THINK MAYBE SNAIL MAIL IS PROBABLY BETTER THAN EMAIL.
I THINK THE FRIDAY REPORTS ARE IMPORTANT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE READING STUFF THAT'S COMING THROUGH EMAIL OR, OR TEXT.
YOU KNOW, I, I'M SURPRISED THESE DAYS THAT WHEN I TALK TO SO MANY PEOPLE THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, I, I, I DON'T, I NEVER CHECK MY MAILBOX.
THEY DON'T EVEN, THEY DON'T CHECK THEIR REGULAR SNAIL MAILBOX.
YOU KNOW, OLD, OLD GUYS LIKE US.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE CHECK OUR MAILBOX 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT.
BUT HEY,
SO THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE THING TO DO TOO.
I HAVEN'T CHECKED MINE IN TWO WEEKS.
CONSOLIDATE, CONSOLIDATING THAT.
AND I, I THINK OUR, AS BIG A IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT IS BECOMING MORE POPULAR, I THINK IS THE FRIDAY NEWSLETTER THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT.
I AM GETTING FAR MORE POSITIVE COMMENTS MM-HMM
FROM THAT FRIDAY NEWSLETTER THAN I EVER HAVE BEFORE.
PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY STARTING TO REALIZE THERE'S VALUABLE LOT OF VALUE THERE.
AND MAYBE EVEN, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU EXPAND THAT AND MAKE IT MORE, BUT I, I REALLY THINK, I THINK THAT'S BEEN A VALUABLE TOOL MM-HMM
AND, AND I DO AGREE THAT THE C MAIL IS TOO EXPENSIVE, NUMBER ONE.
AND MOST OF THE TIME MINE GOES FROM THE MAILBOX TO THE RECYCLING DEN.
SO THAT SAME, I I OPEN IT OVER MY RECYCLING VETERINARY GARAGE.
OH, YOU DON'T? THANKS FOR RECYCLING, UH,
UM, SO DO YOU HAVE WHAT, WHAT YOU NEED VIBRANT, ACTIVE, AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY SEEMS TO BE THE KIND OF PLACE WE'RE LANDING.
IT SEEMS TO BE THAT THERE'S A GENERAL TONE AND TENOR THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO THIS.
IT ALSO VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE CONVERSATION.
WE'D LOVE THE COMMUNITY TO BE MORE ENGAGED, HOWEVER THEY'RE APATHETIC UP AND UNTIL THE POINT WHERE SOMETHING IMPACTS OR AFFECTS THEM, WHICH CASE THEY HAVE INCREDIBLY STRONG FEELINGS.
AND VERY LITTLE INFORMATION TYPICALLY.
THIS IS BY THE WAY, INCREDIBLY TYPICAL FOR MOST COMMUNITIES I DEAL WITH.
UH, THERE'S ONE COMMUNITY THAT HAS AN OVERLY ENGAGED POPULACE, AND THAT IS LOS ALAMOS, NEW MEXICO.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE A BUNCH OF RETIRED NUCLEAR PHYSICISTS WITH NOTHING TO DO.
AND THAT IS A PROBLEM ON A DIFFERENT SCALE.
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WHAT JA FOR IT IS, IT IS THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL THEIR, THE NIFTY 50 AND THE NIFTY 50 SHOW UP TO EVERY DISCUSSION.AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A, UH, A, A PREMIUM THAT CONSULTANTS CHARGE TO WORK IN LOS ALAMOS TO DEAL WITH THOSE FOLKS BECAUSE THEY'RE SO OVERLY ENGAGED ON EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN.
SO I'LL SAY IT'S AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION TO HAVE, BUT THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT 99% OF THE COMMUNITIES I HAVE IS HOW CAN WE GET THE RESIDENTS MORE ENGAGED? AND IT IS A TRICK.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THINGS, YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT BEHAVIORS.
HONESTLY, THE NEWSLETTER, IF THAT'S HITTING FOR YOU AND YOU'RE GETTING TRACTION, DO IT.
UM, IF, IF SNAIL MAIL'S THE RIGHT WAY, WELL, IT'S KIND OF BEING PHASED OUT A LITTLE BIT.
SOCIAL MEDIA'S ITS OWN DYNAMICALLY HOT BED PLAYGROUND, IT'S NOT GONNA GET A, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH YOU CAN DO.
AND THEN THERE'S GORILLA CHALKING NEIGHBORHOODS AND GORILLA MARKETING FOR THINGS THAT ARE TARGETED CAMPAIGNS.
I MEAN, THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF THINGS YOU COULD DO.
YOU CAN'T MAKE THE PUBLIC CARE UNTIL SOMETHING IMPACTS THEM IS MY EXPERIENCE.
BUT IF VIBRANT, ACTIVE AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY ALLOWS US TO BETTER ENCAPSULATE WHAT WE'RE AFTER, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE IT DOES, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WORK ON OR, OR LIVE WITH IN, IN TERMS OF THIS? 'CAUSE I, I SEE THEM BEING CONNECTED AS WELL.
UM, IT'S JUST WHERE WE WANT TO KIND OF ELEVATE AND, AND CREATE, CREATE THAT FOCUS.
ARE WE CREATING AN UN UNDUE BURDEN ON STAFF BY, BY COMBINING THOSE? OR ARE WE COMBINING DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OR DO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WORK ON THE DIFFERENT AREAS? OR IS THAT STILL ONE BASIC DEPARTMENT THAT MIGHT EVEN MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM? THAT'S IT.
I JUST DON'T WANNA PUT AN UNDUE BURDEN ON STAFF IF THAT, IF THAT'S THE CASE.
AND WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT DONE WITH THE PROCESS EITHER.
AND THIS WILL GIVE HOWARD MORE POINTS WITH LESS FFAS, HOWARD GETS A WIN.
SO, SO VIBRANT, ACTIVE AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY.
VIBRANT, ACTIVE AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY.
IF THAT'S, WE OKAY WITH THAT? I FEEL GOOD WITH THAT.
SO OUTSIDE OF THE LANGUAGE, UM, MAYBE JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE CONTEXT AND EXAMPLE OF HOW WE CAN AND SHOULD PRIORITIZE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND BY PUTTING PRIORITY ON PRIORITY ON IT, IT COULD LEAD TO SOME OF OUR PROJECTS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COLORING BEING RED, BECAUSE WE WANT TO GO BACK AND DO ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
SO TAKE THAT AND CIRCLE PARK VISION STUDY, WE ADD A COMMITTEE.
WE HAD 4, 5, 6 PUBLIC MEETINGS.
DID A LOT OF, WE WAS IN THE NEWSLETTER, DID A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT ON THAT.
AND WE GOT TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE READY TO KIND OF TAKE THE NEXT STEPS SPOKE.
WE'VE STEPPED BACK AND WE'VE HEARD FOLKS THAT STILL ARE SAYING THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT, THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THERE WAS ENOUGH.
THEIR OPINION WASN'T HEARD AND IT WASN'T COMING FROM THE GROUND UP.
SO WE'RE RESETTING THAT PROJECT AND WE'RE GONNA GO BACK OUT AND DO MORE ENGAGEMENT, MORE POPS UP POPUPS IN THE PARK TO TRY TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THAT.
SO BY PRIORITIZING THAT, YOU MAY SEE SOME ON SOME OF THESE NOTES, HEY, WE'RE GONNA DELAY THIS A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK.
AND THAT'S JUST US TRYING TO LISTEN TO YOU ALL TRYING TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC TO ENSURE THAT ESPECIALLY ON PROJECTS LIKE THAT, THAT THEY ARE, THEY HAVE THAT COMMUNITY BASIS SUPPORT AS THEY GO FORWARD.
SO I, I JUST WANTED TO PRO PROVIDE THAT AS, AS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF HOW WE'RE TRYING TO ENSURE WE'RE NOT ONLY DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN, BUT WE'RE LISTENING TO WAS IT SUCCESSFUL? AND TWO, WHILE YOU MAY SEE SOME OF THOSE NOTES ON THE PROJECTS AS THEY GO FORWARD.
SO AN OBS OBSERVATION I SEE ON THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR, IT'S A REALLY GOOD CASE STUDY FOR A LOT OF THEM.
LIKE THE BUY LANES OR LIKE THE QUORUM OR MANY THINGS IS YOU'VE GOT, UH, YOU'VE GOT A MOMENTUM OR PHILOSOPHY OF COUNCIL THAT'S GOING THIS DIRECTION AND LIKE ADDISON CIRCLE, AND THEN YOU'RE DOING ALL THE WORK, AND THEN IT STARTS GETTING TIME TO START PUTTING THESE THINGS INTO ACTION.
AND PEOPLE SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, NOW YOU'RE GONNA ACTIVATE A QUIET PARK THAT I LIKE, THAT I MOVED HERE FOR.
SO THEY, THEY NOW THEY'RE STARTING TO TAKE, UH, TAKE UP ARMS ABOUT IT.
THEY, AND, AND THEY SAY, OKAY, WE GOTTA STOP THIS.
WHEN IN ACTUALITY THERE WAS, THERE WAS COMPLETE ENGAGEMENT AND THERE WAS, THERE WAS VERY MUCH A DIRECTION FROM THE, UH, THE COUNCIL.
BUT NOW THAT'S TIDE HAS CHANGED.
SO THAT HAPPENS ON MANY PROJECTS.
AND I, I WANT TO JUST POINT THAT OUT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO WITH IT.
YOU DID ENGAGE, YOU DID DO EVERYTHING.
BUT NOW WHEN YOU ACTUALLY START DOING SOMETHING, IT STIRS PEOPLE UP.
THEY GET ACTIVE CHANGES THE, THE TEMPERATURE OF, OF THE, OF THE COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S HOW I THROW THAT OUT THERE.
I'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE, BUT I'LL WAIT.
AND, AND IT'S A REASONABLE QUESTION.
AT THE POINT WHEN WE'VE DONE THE ENGAGEMENT AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ENGAGEMENT, AND IN THIS CASE EVEN REONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ENGAGEMENT
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TO ENSURE WE'VE RECEIVED THAT, THERE WILL STILL, IN MY EXPERIENCE, BE MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE DISSATISFIED BECAUSE THE OUTCOME ISN'T THE OUTCOME THAT THEY WANTED, AT WHICH POINT THEY'LL CONTACT YOU ALL AND TEND TO TRY AND WORK AROUND THAT PROCESS.AND THAT'S, WE JUST HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT WHEN THOSE MOMENTS HAPPEN.
DID WE DO WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO IN THE RIGHT WAYS TO GET THE RIGHT TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITIES? WHAT IT DOES IS, IT IS YOU RECENTLY HERE STOPPED PROGRESS IN ADDISON AND IT PARALYZES YEP.
NOT THAT I AGREE WITH ANY OF THOSE PARTICULAR POINTS OR, OR CASE STUDIES THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT I, IT'S, IT IS FRUSTRATING.
DAVID, SO FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OBJ PROJECT THAT I REFERENCED EARLIER IS GONNA BE SCRAPPED AND START OVER? NO, WE'RE NOT.
THAT'S, I WOULDN'T SAY SCRAPPED OR START OVER.
OUR, WE WERE, AND IN THE BUDGET WE HAD, OUR NEXT BILL WAS TO GO IN AND START HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCIL ABOUT FUNDING POSSIBILITIES AND TAKING THOSE.
AND IN, IN THAT WE WOULD BE SAYING, HEY, HERE'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE BASED ON THE STUDIES THAT WE HAD AND COUNCIL DIRECTION.
BUT WE, AS STAFF SAID, WE'RE STILL HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE'S SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS THAT WANNA GET THEIR THOUGHTS HEARD, EVEN FROM COUNCIL.
AND SO I THINK IT'S WORTH IT FOR US TO PAUSE FOR SIX MONTHS, NINE MONTHS, DO DO SOME MORE OF THOSE POPUPS, GET SOME MORE FEEDBACK, COME BACK TO YOU ALL WITH THAT.
UM, BECAUSE IN THAT PROJECT IN PARTICULAR, THAT'S ONE THAT HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON US GOING FORWARD.
IT'S A LONG RANGE PROJECT, LET'S GET IT RIGHT AND ENSURE WE'RE HEARING FROM EVERYBODY GOING FORWARD.
NOW, I DON'T WANT THAT TO DILUTE THE, WHAT WE'VE HEARD TO THIS POINT, THE WORK OF THE COMMITTEE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT I DO THINK IT'S WORTH IT TO GET AS MUCH ENGAGEMENT AS POSSIBLE TO BRING FORWARD THROUGH YOU ALL.
AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME CHANGES THAT ARE MADE TO IT.
UM, BUT I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S SCRAPPING THE PROJECT.
FOR PEOPLE THAT MAY WATCH THIS LATER, CAN YOU JUST TELL 'EM WHAT OBJ STANDS FOR? SO THEY, SO THEY KNOW WHAT PROJECT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YOU'RE GONNA QUIZ ME ON? NO, I'M JUST, IT'S ACTUALLY OJB.
IT'S THE OFFICES OF JAMES FETT IS THE CO NAME YEAH.
AND, AND, AND WHAT IT'S GONNA BE AFFECTING.
SO IT'S THE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK VISION STUDY.
IT'S SAYING WHAT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK AS IT EXISTS NOW, WHAT COULD IT LOOK LIKE IN 10 YEARS? UM, AND THEN WHAT ARE THE STEPS TO GET OKAY.
I, I COULD JUST SEE PEOPLE SAYING, WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT? QUESTION.
THANK YOU FOR THAT POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
WE HAVE GENERAL ASCENSION TO MOVE THIS TO VIBRANT, ACTIVE, AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE ROBUST DISCUSSION AROUND THIS.
I THINK THE SHARED UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE AFTER AS A GROUP IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
'CAUSE IT HELPS STAFF OUT WHEN WE GO THROUGH THESE PROCESSES GOING FORWARD AND UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES WITH THAT.
SO DAVID ASKED THE QUESTION OF HOW CAN WE BETTER ENGAGE OUR CITIZENS? YES.
DID YOU ASK THAT QUESTION, DAVID? YOU WANTED A CONVERSATION HERE? I HEARD IT.
MAYBE ACTUALLY I DIDN'T ASK THE QUESTION, BUT IT'S OKAY.
YEAH, I DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT I LIKE THAT THERE'S A QUESTION THAT YOU WANNA ASK THOUGH.
LIKE, LET'S PUT IT OUT THERE JUST ON THE STRATEGIC, UM, THE INITIATIVE LEVEL.
UM, I THINK EQUIPPING ONE OF THE BEST, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, COMMUNITY, UM, UH, ENGAGEMENT IS COUNCIL PEOPLE.
WE'RE NOT ONLY ON COUNCIL TO SET DIRECTION, WE'RE KIND OF, UM, INFORMATION SOURCES FOR ALL THE FOLKS THAT WE KNOW.
AND, UM, IF WE GET BETTER EQUIPPED WITH INFORMATION THAT WE CAN READILY HAVE AVAILABLE TO SHARE WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR SPHERES OF INFLUENCE, THEN THAT ALLOWS US TO, TO BE MORE OF A, UH, INFORMATION SOURCE, RIGHT? ACCURATE INFORMATION SOURCE.
IT'S BETTER EQUIPPING COUNSEL WITH INFORMATION, EASY INFORMATION.
UM, AND WE GET A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT MAYBE IT'S JUST THE WAY IT'S PACKAGED.
MAYBE IT'S THE WAY IT, IT'S, UH, THE TOP 10 AND FAQS, OR WHAT ARE WE HEARING? UM, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
I, I THOUGHT THAT FOR A LONG TIME, THE BETTER I'M EQUIPPED, THE BETTER I CAN BE A BETTER COUNCIL.
WE'RE WE'RE AMBASSADORS IN A LOT OF WAY TO THE TOWN, TO THE TOWN PEOPLE.
YEP, YEP, YEP, YEP, YEP, YEP, YEP.
WE, THE NEXT ONE UP IS VIBRANT, ACTIVE, AND NOW ENGAGED COMMUNITY.
UM, SO WHAT I'LL SAY IS IN, IN TERMS OF THE COUNCIL SUPPORT, 50% SUPPORTIVE, 50% NEUTRAL ON THIS ONE.
SO A LITTLE MORE IN THE, EH, I'M OKAY ABOUT IT.
UM, I THINK SOME OF IT WAS RELATED TO THE WORDING AND OF COURSE THIS ISSUE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT INSIDE OF IT, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT DISCUSSION, UM, KEEP OR MODIFY.
THERE WAS ONE DISAGREE VOTE ON EACH OF THESE THREE THINGS.
SO AGAIN, IT'S, IS IT KEEP, IS IT MODIFIED? THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE WASN'T SUPPORT, JUST ONE DISAGREE.
SO LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THAT VOICE IS HEARD.
UH, ACTIVATE PARKS AND TOWN ASSETS, GATEWAYS AND STREETSCAPES AND SPECIAL MOMENTS AND EVENTS.
WERE KIND OF THESE RIGHT HERE.
LET ME JUST, UH, FINISH THIS THOUGHT REAL QUICK.
UM, THESE WERE THE SIGNALS OVERALL THAT YOU GAVE RELATED TO THIS.
THESE ARE BOTH IN ONE-ON-ONE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL AS OPEN-ENDED COMMENTARY IN THIS.
AND SO I KIND OF CONSOLIDATE THESE INTO
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SENTIMENTS SO THAT I COULD GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF WHAT YOUR SIGNALS LOOK LIKE.SO GENERALLY POSITIVE SENTIMENT.
WE LIKE THE CONCEPT OF A VIBRANT ACTIVE IN COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT.
UM, HIGH GENERAL SUPPORT, BUT LOW OVERALL URGENCY.
SO THIS JUST DIDN'T FALL IN THE LIST OF LIKE, HEY, IN TERMS OF THINGS WE GOTTA BE REALLY AFTER THIS WASN'T JUST TOP OF THE LIST FOR THAT.
SO LET'S RECOGNIZE THAT AS WELL.
UM, AGAIN, THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PART AND THEN THE NARROWING THE SCOPE TO BRANDING AND EXPERIENCE WAS THE OTHER KIND OF COMMENT.
WE'RE BACK INTO THE BRAND DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT HERE, UM, WITH THIS ONE.
I JUST WANNA OPEN IT UP IN TERMS OF KEEP MODIFY.
I THINK WE MAYBE UNDERSTAND THE INTENT BEHIND THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER NOW, BUT LET'S TALK IT THROUGH HERE.
THE, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD ON THIS WAS 7.2 AND I'M JUST GONNA READ IT.
SO WE CAN ALSO ENHANCE ADDISON'S GATEWAYS AND VISUAL APPEAL OF STREETSCAPES TO OPTIMIZE, UH, ADDISON BRAND.
AND I LOVE IT, BUT I JUST, TO ME, I JUST THOUGHT, SHOULDN'T THAT BE UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, AND DEVELOPMENT.
I'M JUST THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE MISPLACED.
SO LET'S, LET'S START WITH THAT ONE, SINCE THAT'S KIND OF BEING BROUGHT UP FIRST IN THIS DISCUSSION.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS RELATED TO IT? IT, IT, IT COULD BE MOVED TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT COULD MAKE SOME SENSE TO US, OR WE MIGHT THINK THAT THIS IS OKAY WHERE IT'S AT.
SO FOR ME ACTUALLY, THIS IS THE, THE AESTHETICS OF THE, OF THE TOWN AS YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE AS, AS YOU AS, AS, AS VISITORS AND RESIDENTS ARE GOING THROUGH IT.
WHERE I THINK OF INFRASTRUCTURE AS THOSE, THOSE NECESSARY THINGS THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE WATER, SEWER, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS, THE ROADS.
UM, I, I, I, I SEE, I, I SEE THIS AS DIFFERENT THAN, THAN INFRASTRUCTURE.
I, I DON'T THINK I WOULD LOVE TO, UH, COMBINE THEM.
OTHER THOUGHTS, FEELINGS, CONFESSIONS? NOBODY EVER TAKES ME UP ON CONFESSIONS, BUT I THINK THE, THE INTENT OF THIS VIBRANT, ACTIVE COMMUNITY IN THIS, UH, OBJECTIVE WAS, UH, WHAT IT FEELS LIKE ADDISON ADDISON'S IMAGE.
AND THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENT.
IT WAS WHAT, TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO? AND, UM, NOW THAT WE'VE KIND OF CHANGED THE TONE OF THE VIBRANT, ACTIVE AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY, UH, THE VIBRANT COMMUNITY PART WAS TO MAKE THIS SOMETHING WHERE ADDISON IS ALIVE.
AND WHEN PEOPLE, VISITORS WANT TO COME HERE AND EXPERIENCE THE THINGS THAT WE DO, WE HAVE, UH, PERFORMING ARTS, UH, THE ART THAT WE HAVE AROUND HERE, UH, NICE PARKS, UH, APPROPRIATELY IN PUBLIC PLACES, UH, TO, TO COME TO ADDISON AND TO SPEND MONEY HERE AND TO WANT TO LIVE HERE OR MOVE THEIR OFFICE HERE.
SO THAT WAS THE THE AN INTENT.
SO I I'M FINE WITH LEAVING IT THERE.
UH, IT, TO ME IT COULD MOVE TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION.
SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES THAT ARE UNDER THERE ENHANCED ADDISON GATEWAYS BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S YOUR HE IMAGE YOUR BRAND.
I, AND I DON'T SEE THIS AS GOING INTO ED EITHER, JUST BECAUSE, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS THE VIBRANCY OF THE TOWN BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS.
THAT WHEN YOU ARE SURROUNDED BY MULTIPLE CITIES AND WE REALLY HAVE, HAVE EXPRESSED THE, THE DESIRE TO HAVE, UH, THE EXPERIENCE WHEN SOMEBODY ENTERS ADDISON, THEY NOTICE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT THEY, THAT THEY, THAT THERE'S A CHANGE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I SEE THIS FITTING IN.
AND THAT'S THE VIBRANCY OF THE TOWN.
UM, AND IT IS JUST, IT'S A FEELING THAT YOU GET WHEN, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU COME IN, UH, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
THAT I AGREE WITH THAT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF IT DOESN'T, IF IT MOVES, THEN ED WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE FOR ME TO REVITALIZATION.
'CAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST REVITALIZING HOTELS AND OFFICE SPACES AND RETAIL FACADES AND SO ON.
IT'S THE STREET SCAPES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, BUT AGAIN, IT'S A CROSSOVER.
I AGREE WITH THE TWO COMMENTS THAT I HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT'S VISUAL AND IT CREATES THIS FEEL, UM, EXPERIENCE.
AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT DESERVES TO BE UNDER THE VIBRANT ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT COMMUNITY.
SO WE'LL JUST DO KIND OF A STRAIGHT UP PREFERENCE INDICATOR HERE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IT MOVED? IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT MOVED, GIMME THE HANDS UP IN WHICH CASE WE'RE GONNA LEAVE IT WHERE IT'S AT AND THAT'S OKAY.
IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT TIES US TOGETHER AND IT HELPS TO, SO IT DOES HAVE A LOT OF RELATIONSHIPS TO A LOT OF THE OTHER ITEMS. AND THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT, THAT CONVERSATION.
UH, OTHER TOPICS ABOUT THIS RIGHT HERE.
SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT WHERE IT'S AT.
SO I'M HEARING FROM RESIDENTS ON 7.1 THAT THE ONES AROUND THE CIRCLE DO NOT WANT ALL THAT ACTIVITY PUT INTO THAT PARK.
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LIKE IT IS AND THEY DON'T WANT ACTIVATING IT WITH ALL THOSE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, COMING INTO THE PARK, A BEER GARDEN AND WHATEVER THEY, THEY LIKE IT THE WAY IT IS.AND, UM, THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT ON THAT PARK.
I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHER ASSETS.
THEY ALSO WERE VERY ACTIVE AND, UM, LOUD ABOUT THEIR TREES AND CUTTING THOSE TREES DOWN.
AND I'M HEARING THAT CONSTANTLY THAT THEY DO NOT WANT OUR STAFF COMING IN AND CUTTING THEIR TREES DOWN WITHOUT THEM BEING ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS.
THEY FEEL LIKE THOSE PARKS ARE THEIR BACKYARD AND THEY WANNA KNOW WHAT'S, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THOSE PARKS.
AND SO WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE COME TO THE STAFF, UH, TO THE COUNCIL IN A WORK SESSION AND TELL US ABOUT ALL THESE GREAT PLANS FOR THE PARK, THOSE MEETINGS NEED TO BE HAPPENING WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE PARK AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND THEN BRING IT TO THE COWS.
THAT'S JUST MY HOWARD, IF I CAN ASK A POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I'LL, I'LL USE, I'VE USED THAT REFERENCE BEFORE, IS ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, OUR WANT TO BE CENTRAL PARK IN NEW YORK WHERE IT'S ACTIVE PEOPLE RIDING BIKES, THEY'RE WALKING DOGS.
THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS YOU'VE SPOKEN TO ALSO, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WANT MORE ENGAGEMENT FOR THEIR BUSINESSES IN THE CIRCLE.
MEANING MORE HUMAN BEINGS GET INTO THAT CIRCLE FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER, AND THEN GO SHOP, EAT, DINE, PLAY, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.
GET THEIR HAIR DONE, NAILS DONE.
SO AM I HEARING YOU CORRECTLY THAT THEY, THEY WANNA LEAVE IT ALONE, WHICH MEANS LOW POPULACE OR YOU SAYING THEY WANT BOTH ENDS? THEY WANT SPECIFIC PEOPLE TO COME IN, SPEND MONEY AND LEAVE WITHOUT GROWING THAT POPULATION AT THE PARK.
SO YOU THINK THEY'RE CONFLICTING GOALS? I DO.
YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER.
YOU WANT THAT TO BECOME CENTRAL PARK.
WE NEED TO RE REIMAGINE THAT PARK.
IT'S SORT OF LIKE SOME OF OUR RESTAURANTS OR HOTELS.
SO THEN MAYBE THAT MESSAGE NEEDS TO BE DELIVERED BY STAFF TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.
BECAUSE THE, THE PRO WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THEM, I'VE NOW GOT A LOT OF FRIENDS IN THE CIRCLE.
I DIDN'T USE TO HAVE THAT, SO I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING.
THEY WOULD LIKE ALL THOSE EMPTY, UH, SPACES TO BE LEASED.
THEY, THEY WANT MORE BUSINESS IN THOSE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PARK.
THEY, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GETTING FROM THEM.
THEY LIKE BEING ABLE TO TAKE THE DOGS IN THE PARK AND PLAY FRISBEE AND WALK THE PARK AND ENJOY THE PARK.
AND THEY DON'T WANT A LOT OF STUFF BUILT ON THE PARK THAT CHANGES THE PARK.
I I I IT IS TOO DIFFERENT, UM, CONFLICTING ISSUES.
SO, SO WE NEED MORE ENGAGEMENT WITH THOSE PEOPLE AND, AND, AND GET A CONSENSUS FROM THEM.
AND MAYBE I'M HEARING FROM JUST THE SMALL GROUP THAT I'M HEARING FROM, I CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THE PARK.
AND YOU HAVE PROPERTY OWNERS, YOU HAVE BUSINESS OWNERS, AND YOU HAVE, UH, TENANTS IN THE APARTMENTS AND IT'S, IT'S THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS.
WELL, AND YOU KNOW, AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROJECT WITH THAT, UH, WITH THE CONSULTANT ON, ON THE PARK, THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES.
AND IT STILL GOES BACK TO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE TO GET ENGAGED.
AND THERE'S THE PROBLEM FROM WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE WE'VE HAD A BRIEFING ON THIS PROJECT TO COUNCIL? 'CAUSE I, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M, I'M BEHIND THE POWER CURVE ON THIS.
I DON'T THINK I'VE BEEN ON, WE HAVE A, IT WAS PRIOR TO YOU COMING ON.
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT SINCE YOU BEEN, I WOULD LOVE TO, TO GET MORE IN INVOLVED AND, AND LEARN MORE, WHETHER IT BE COMING TO THE OFFICE AND JUST SITTING DOWN WITH SOMEBODY AND, AND GET IT EXPLAINED OR TO HAVE A WORK SESSION ITEM PUT ON IT TO KIND OF, IF WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF, NOT RESTART, BUT SHIFT BACK AND REIMAGINE, POSSIBLY HAVE SOME KIND OF WORK SESSION ON IT AGAIN.
UH, AND AND WAS ALL OF THE, WERE THESE PLANS BROUGHT BEFORE OUR NEW PROJECT DEVELOPMENT PROJECT? IS, IS THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THERE GOING TO TAKE SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DO IN THE PARK AND PUT 'EM IN THE NEW PROJECT WHERE WE CAN KEEP OUR PARK AND STILL HAVE THE ENTERTAINMENT AREA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? IT THERE WAS ALL, ALL TOGETHER? YEAH.
YEAH, IT WAS, HOW, HOW DO WE INTEGRATE THEM? REALLY? I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D WANT A BEER GARDEN IN THE PARK IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BEER GARDEN IN THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
AND MAKE THEM WORK MORE HAND IN HAND.
I HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON THE TOD MM-HMM
BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN BRIEFED ON THIS PART DEAL, SO I, I'D LIKE TO GET CAUGHT BROUGHT UP TO SPEED ON IT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I'LL JUST ASK ASHLEY TO SEND US, SEND US A LINK SINCE YOU'RE NEW AND CHRIS.
SO HELP ME, HOWARD, ARE YOU SUGGESTING WE MODIFY, UM, 7.1 OR SOMEHOW CAN I, CAN I GIVE SOME INPUT BEFORE WE WELL, I JUST WOULD LOVE TO,
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HE, HE STARTED THE THOUGHT AND I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE'S COMMUNICATED.I WASN'T, I WASN'T LOOKING AT WHETHER WE SHOULD KEEP IT CHANGE.
I'M JUST MAKING THE COMMENT THAT THAT ISSUE HAS, I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM PEOPLE OKAY.
YEAH, SO LIKE FOR ME, 7.1 IS JUST TO WHAT LEVEL DO WE ACTIVATE THE PARK? I, I, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S, THAT TON CIRCLE AREA IS VERY DENSE AND THAT PARK BECOMES THE BACKYARD TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
SO IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO LISTEN TO THEM.
AND, AND THAT'S THE FEEDBACK THAT I'M GETTING IS I DO WANT SOME ENHANCEMENTS, LIKE WE'RE GONNA PLANT A BUNCH OF TREES OVER THERE, WHICH I THINK WILL BE GREAT.
UM, BUT IT COULD BE THAT WE'RE OVER ACTIVATING IT A BIT.
SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF, FOR ME, WHERE WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO.
I, I DO THINK THE, THE TRAIL THAT COMES THROUGH THAT'S GONNA BE RUN PARALLEL TO THE, UH, DART RAIL, I THINK WE WILL GET PEOPLE IN AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE JUST ENOUGH TO GET THOSE, UM, ON, YOU KNOW, THE UNDERUTILIZED SPACES TO GET ACTIVATED.
THERE'S CERTAINLY MORE DISCUSSION TO BE HAD ON, ON WHAT THE, UH, THE FINAL PROJECT MAY, MAY LOOK LIKE.
AND, AND IT, AGAIN, IT'S A LONG TERM PROJECT TOO.
THAT'S NOT A, NOT A THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR.
I JUST WANNA ADD, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PARKS AND SOME OF THEM ARE MEANT TO BE VERY ACTIVE AND SOME OF THEM AREN'T.
SOME OF THEM ARE FOR CHILDREN TO PLAY.
SO IT'S JUST LIKE, DEPENDING ON WHICH PARK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT HAS DIFFERENT, THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN PURPOSE.
SO FROM A TACTICAL, THIS IS VERY BROAD, RIGHT? THIS IS, WE'RE WE'RE STRATEGIC PLANNING, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO FROM A TACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON THE PART AND THAT SEEMS LIKE A, WE'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.
OR YOU WANT SOME UPDATES ON ADDISON CIRCLE.
I WANT VISIONARY STUDY, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF, IS THAT HOWARD, I MEAN YOU'RE JUST KIND OF, YOU GUYS WANTING SOME UPDATES ON SOME ISN'T THAT WHAT, UH, I FORGOT THE INITIALS AGAIN.
J THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO AB WE NEED TO, I DON'T KNOW.
YOU SAID WE HAVE A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT.
I ONLY LEARNED ABOUT IT WHEN I GOT MY COUNSEL.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHEN I WAS TALKING EARLIER ABOUT PAUS A PROJECT AND REENGAGING THAT THIS IS THE PROJECT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
SO'S IN THE PROCESS THAT I, I LOVE OUR PARKS AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS ON PARKS, I THINK THROUGH THEIR, THEY'RE ONE OF ADDISON'S CROWN JEWELS ON OUR PARKS AREA.
AND I WANT 'EM ALL ACTIVATED AND I WANT PEOPLE TO ENJOY 'EM.
HOWEVER, I DON'T, I, I DON'T THINK IF ACTIVATING OUR PARKS MEANS TURNING THEM INTO A COMMERCIALIZED DISTRICT.
I, I DON'T THINK PUTTING COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES INSIDE OF OUR GREEN SPACE PARKS IS WHERE WE SHOULD BE GOING.
WE SHOULD BE KEEPING OUR PARKS TO A LEVEL THAT EVERYONE EXPECTS 'EM TO BE, TO WHERE THEY CAN GET OUT TO.
COMPLETELY AGREE WITH WHAT CHRIS HAS SAID.
THIS IS SOME PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR PARKS ACTIVATED AS A PARK, NOT AS A COMMERCIAL, UH, SPACE, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T WANNA OVERDO IT, RANDY, BUT IT, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THE, IN THE CIRCLE, THEY REALLY ENJOY THE FACT THAT JAVIN HOPS IS THERE.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S A COMMERCIAL, BUT YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA DO THE RIGHT THINGS.
BUT IT'S NOT IN THAT GREEN SPACE.
IT'S KIND OF ON THE PERIPHERY, BUT IT IS ON PARK PROPERTY.
AND I REALLY LIKE TO, LIKE SOMEONE ELSE SAID, I'D LOVE TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THOSE EMPTY SPACES THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THAT PART.
I WOULD RATHER CONCENTRATE OUR COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, TRYING TO FILL THOSE SPACES RATHER THAN BUILD OUR OWN.
YOU JUST HAVE TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW YOU DO IT.
I CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION.
I REALLY WANNA FIND OUT MORE ABOUT IT.
ARE WE GOOD? DAVID, CAN YOU INFORM THE CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT? IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CON CON CONTEXT AROUND THIS, OR NO? I, I THINK WE'LL COME BACK AND DISCUSS IT.
I, I JUST, I GUESS FOR FOLKS WATCHING, I ALSO DON'T WANNA MISCHARACTERIZE WHAT THE PROJECT IS TODAY 'CAUSE IT'S NOT, I MEAN, IT IS, IT ADDS A LOT.
IT HAS A, IT HAS A SIGNIFICANT OPEN SPACE IN THE MIDDLE.
IT'S NOT COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY THROUGHOUT.
IT HAS SOME MORE ACTIVATION SPACES SO THAT FOLKS CAN USE THAT.
WE NEED TO GO HAVE DISCUSSION AND IF WE NEED TO REMOVE THINGS, CHANGE THINGS.
LET'S, THAT'S WHY WE WANNA ENGAGE MORE.
BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT FOLKS TO LISTEN TO THIS AND THINK IT'S JUST GONNA BE LIKE, SHOPS EVERYWHERE.
AND THAT'S ME NOT BEING FULLY UP TO SPEED ON IT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO AVOID.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CONTEXT TOO.
THIS IS THE DISCUSSION WE WANT TO HAVE.
AND LET'S HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A REALLY VALUABLE OPPORTUNITY FOR US.
IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE'VE GOT AN OBJECTION TO THIS PARTICULAR, WHEN COMING BACK TO STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS REALLY ACTIVATE PARKS AND TOWN AT, WE DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THAT.
THERE'S ALSO, WHAT'S THE RIGHT LEVEL, WHAT'S THE RIGHT LOCATION ACCEPTABLE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE HOW WE GET IT.
THE WHAT? SO I'M NOT HEARING OBJECTIONS TO THAT.
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I'M NOT HEARING OBJECTIONS TO 7.2.WE ALREADY DECIDE WE'RE GONNA KEEP THAT WHERE IT'S AT.
WE HAVEN'T HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT YET.
JUST ONE REAL QUICK THING, 7.2 TO, TO MARLIN DEAL ON MOVING THIS.
AND I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY SAID WE DON'T WANNA MOVE IT, BUT THAT ALMOST SOMEWHAT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE TO BE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD MAYBE BE UNDER PARKS.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GREEN SPACES BETWEEN THE STREETS AND, AND THAT TYPE STUFF.
UH, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT SHOULD FALL.
AND, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU MOVE, COME INTO TOWN, YOU WANNA KNOW YOU'RE IN ADDISON.
IT IT HAS TO DO WITH THE GREENERY AND, AND THE SPACES IN THE MIDDLE.
AND ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST A COMMENT.
UM, SPECIAL MOMENTS AND EVENTS.
ANY COMMENT? I MEAN, AGAIN, WE HAD ONE PERSON OBJECT TO THIS, THAT, WHICH IS WHY I BRING THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION.
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO HAVE MODIFICATION OR HAVE WE DISCUSSED THE REASON FOR THE MODIFICATION TO THE POINT WHERE WE FEEL OKAY ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? WELL, THAT'S A SPECIAL MOMENT.
I, YEAH, I HAD TO READ, I HAD TO READ THE WHOLE THANK YOU.
SO, SO THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE OBJECTIVE, IT SAYS VISION AND CREATE SPECIAL MOMENTS THAT MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO BE IN ADDISON ARTS EVENTS, UH, ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB MARKETS.
SO YEAH, IT'S, SO INSTEAD OF, IT'S NOT EVENTS.
WE GOT EVENTS, BUT SPECIAL MOMENTS.
I'M NOT SURE HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT.
YEAH, THAT WAS, BUT, BUT I GET THE POINT OF IT.
THAT WAS A SPECIFIC INCLUSION BY ONE OF THE, UH, I, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO'S NO LONGER HERE, THAT WAS A SPECIFIC INCLUSION THAT WAS REQUESTED AS A RESULT OF A PREVIOUS DISCUSSION.
SO I COULD, I COULD SEE THAT HAPPENING.
THAT'S HOW THAT CAME BE TO YOUR POINT THAT YOU HAD TO READ IT.
PEOPLE AT HOME DON'T HAVE THIS ADVANTAGE OF HAVING THEIR ACT, BUT, BUT IT IS ALL ON THE WEBSITE.
IT IS ALL THERE IF THEY WANT DID.
AND BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKELY NOT GONNA SEE THIS POWERPOINT.
I MEAN, I HAVE A LOT OF SPECIAL ABUSE OF TOWN.
SO
CAN WE CHANGE MOMENT TO OCCASION? I, I DON'T SEE IT AS A MOMENT.
I SEE SOMEONE COMING IN AND HAVING AN EXPERIENCE OR SOMETHING.
I, I THINK OCCASION OR EXPERIENCE, I DON'T KNOW WHO CAME UP WITH THAT BEFORE, BUT I WOULD, THAT, THAT DON'T, THAT WORD DOESN'T FIT EITHER.
I DON'T WANNA HAVE OCCASION, OCCASION, OCCASIONS, SPECIAL OCCASION SEEMS BETTER THAN MOMENTS.
AND, UH, I, THIS ONE MADE ME SMILE WHEN I READ IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, IT WAS GREAT, YOU KNOW.
BUT LET'S CHANGE THAT TO, OKAY.
YEAH, I'M NOT SEEING ANY MORE OBJECTIONS TO THIS OR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR WITH THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR.
WITH THAT SAID, I'M GONNA HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON HERE.
WE'VE BEEN AT IT FOR AN HOUR AND 15 HOUR AND A HALF.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND STRETCH IT OUT HERE AGAIN FOR A SECOND.
UH, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? 11 36 46.
IT IS, UH, ARE WE ON? IT IS 1217, AND WE WILL COME BACK IN, UH, INTO OUR SESSION FROM OUR LUNCH BREAK AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO NICK.
UH, WE'RE MAKING SOME GREAT PROGRESS HERE, AND LIKE I SAID, WE SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST, SO THAT'S RIGHT.
WHERE'S THE GREATEST DEGREE OF, LET'S SAY, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR CONVERSATION? AND IT WOULD BE RIGHT HERE.
SO GIVEN WHAT WE, UH, GIVEN WHAT WE LOOKED AT IN THE SURVEY, UH, THIS RANKS AT ABOUT 10% IN TERMS OF Q UH, THAT, THAT QUESTION ONE, UH, 10%.
AND THEN COUNCIL AGREEMENT, 50% SUPPORT OF 33%.
LOWEST OVERALL WEIGHTED AVERAGE IN THE OVERALL EQUATION.
UM, WE HAD ONE THAT REALLY HAD NO SIGNIFICANT OBJECTIONS TO IT, AND THAT WAS IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
SO THAT'S ONE THAT I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF ALIGNMENT.
NOW, SOME OF THE QUESTION MAY BE ABOUT WHERE AND HOW.
WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME DISCUSSION AROUND THAT.
WHAT TYPES OF AREAS SHOULD WE BE DOING PEDESTRIAN AND SAFETY EFFORTS IN, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
BUT THERE WAS AN OBJECTION TO THIS.
SO THIS IS AN AREA WHERE IT FEELS LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF ALIGNMENT AND AGREEMENT.
I WANNA KEEP THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE LARGER CONVERSATION, UH, WHICH IS TO SAY, REQUESTS TO REMOVE REQUESTS TO MODIFY OR REFRAME.
AND THIS IS THE GENERAL COUNSEL FEEDBACK, SO I'LL LET YOU TAKE THAT IN FOR A SECOND HERE.
UM, AGAIN, I'M JUST BEING THE MIRROR.
SO IN TERMS OF THE GENERAL FEEDBACK, IT WAS, SOME FOLKS FELT MARKET SHOULD SOLVE CONNECTIVITY.
THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS AROUND THINGS LIKE WAYMO AND LYFT AND UBER AS BEING MECHANISMS INSIDE OF THIS.
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SCOOTERS AND ROLLER BLADES.HECK, I, I MEAN, I'M JUST KIDDING ABOUT THE ROLLER BLADES.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT FELT LIKE EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN WAS A TOPIC WITH AT LEAST ONE OF YOU.
UM, SO THE LOTS OF SORT OF DIFFERING VIEWPOINTS ON THIS.
I TALKED ABOUT DART BEING THAT PROXY ISSUE BEFORE.
SO THAT CONVERSATION WAS VERY FLUID AND FLEXIBLE, DEPENDING ON WHICH COUNCIL MEMBER I WAS SPEAKING WITH.
SO A LOT OF THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT.
UM, THE BIKE LANES REALLY WAS THE STICKING POINT FOR A LOT OF THIS.
THERE WAS, I'LL SAY GENERAL AND, AND AGAIN, PLEASE, THE, THE ELOQUENCY WITH WORDS IS A HARD ONE TO WALK WITH THIS ONE.
OKAY? BUT WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO BIKE LANES.
WE MIGHT BE OPPOSED TO BIKE LANES ON CERTAIN THOROUGHFARES, THOUGH, ON THESE STREETS.
WE LIKE 'EM SEGREGATED FROM THE ROADWAY.
WE LIKE 'EM ON NON-MAJOR ARTERIAL STREETS.
WE DON'T LIKE TO LOSE CAR FUNCTIONALITY IN LIEU OF BIKE LANES WAS SOME OF THE CONVERSATION.
AND IN OTHERS, THE CONVERSATION WAS THAT IS CRITICAL TO SIGNALING THAT WE ARE A COMMUNITY, UH, WHO IS READY FOR THIS.
SUSTAINABILITY IS IMPORTANT TO US.
IT IS WHAT YOUNGER FAMILIES AND YOUNGER RESIDENTS WANT.
IT'S PART OF ATTRACTING PEOPLE TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO IT CAME UNDER BOTH OF THESE HEADERS AND, AND IT CAME WITH VERY DIFFERENT VOICES IN THIS SPACE.
SO THAT WAS THE BIKE LANES DISCUSSION.
THERE WERE SPECIFIC ISSUES WITH AT LEAST ONE OR TWO PROJECTS WERE BIKE LANES WERE BROUGHT INTO THE EQUATION.
AND UH, AND I THINK THIS CAME BACK TO THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DISCUSSION.
RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, SEEMINGLY WERE NOT ENGAGED IN THE WAY, UM, WHEN THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, OBVIOUSLY IT CHANGED THE PERSPECTIVE OF SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS RELATED TO BIKE LANES ON ONE ROADWAY IN PARTICULAR, OR TWO ROADWAYS IN PARTICULAR.
SO THAT CAME BACK AND WE FOUND OUT THAT WASN'T WANTED.
IT WAS JUST SOMETHING WE WERE GOING FORWARD WITH.
UM, AND THE OTHER THING WAS THE OPPOSITION TO CAR REDUCTION FRAMING.
AND SO SOME OF THE FRAMING AND THE PLANS THEMSELVES, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, THE PERCEPTION IS THERE THAT THERE'S AN ANTI-CAR FRAMING GOING ON.
UM, WHEREAS THE PERCEPTION IS ALSO THAT EVERYTHING IN DALLAS RELATES TO ROADS.
UM, YOU ALL ARE A CONCRETE JUNGLE.
WE DO CARS IN DALLAS AND THE DALLAS METRO AREA.
SO QUIT TRYING TO MAKE ME GET OUTTA MY CAR AND WALK SOMEWHERE.
BUT THAT'S THE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS I WAS HAVING.
I CAN, IT MIGHT BE, UH, ON THIS, JUST GIVEN THE CONVERSATION SO FAR FOR THIS POINT, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO GO STRATEGIC OBJECT, LIKE ACTUALLY PULL EACH OBJECTIVE UP.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S NO, NONE OF THESE OBJECTIVES SAY BY CLAIMS, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO I THINK WHAT WE, WHAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD, AND I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA GET TO THIS IS WHAT WE WANNA HEAR, IS WHAT LANGUAGE ARE YOU OPPOSED TO EXACTLY.
THAT WOULD LEAD LEADS TO THAT.
UM, SO I JUST WANNA PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
I THINK, I THINK IT'S WISE TO GO TO IT ONE BY ONE.
UM, SO THIS IS THE EXACT WORDING AND THE EXACT LANGUAGE IN THERE.
AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFIC TO BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE, BICYCLE PLANS INSIDE OF THIS.
UM, HOWEVER, WE'RE BACK TO THE HOW AND THE HOW WE GO ABOUT THIS, I THINK IS THE DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD.
ALSO, THE VARYING PERSPECTIVES.
EVERYBODY HERE HAD A GREAT PERSPECTIVE.
IT WAS WONDERFUL TO HEAR THAT.
IT'S ALSO JUST VERY DIFFERENT.
WE ALL HAD A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT ON THIS AND, AND THE CONNECTIVITY.
AND DOES THIS DRIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? DOES IT NOT? IS IT A WASTE OF MONEY? IS IT A GOOD SPENDING OF FUNDS? RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE DISCUSSION.
BUT THESE ARE THE SPECIFIC ONES HERE.
I, I WOULD OFFER UP THAT IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY HAD SUPPORT.
AGAIN, NOBODY WAS OPPOSED TO IMPROVING PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
IT WAS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF THE WHAT AND THE WHERE, BUT NOBODY WAS OPPOSED TO IT.
SO I WONDER IF THAT ONE'S AN EASY ONE TO KIND OF STEP BACK FROM OUT OF THE CONVERSATION.
SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE OBJECTION TO THAT.
I'D LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT ONE OR MAYBE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
PLEASE NOT ADD, BUT AT LEAST HAVE, UH, INPUT FROM COUNCIL IS, UM, SO WALKABILITY IN TEXAS IS LIKE, SO WALKABILITY IN TEXAS IS LIKE TRYING NOT TO FRY WHEN YOU'RE WALKING.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S WALKABILITY AND COMFORT.
IT'S SAFETY AND COMFORT IS, IS ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO PUT SOMEWHERE IN HERE.
MAYBE IT'S IN INITIATIVE LEVEL, UH, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TREES SHADE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST SAFETY, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A NOT, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD COVER THINGS LIKE CROSSING THE, UH, BELT LINE AND TOLLWAY INTERSECTION.
NOT JUST SAFELY, BUT COMFORTABLY ALSO.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF SOMETHING THAT CAME UP WITH, WITH MY THOUGHTS ON WALKABILITY.
I'M THINKING SOMEBODY WALKING FROM THE COLONNADE OVER TO, UM, ASTORIA, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT NOT JUST, UH, AND, AND THAT'S GONNA MAKE US THINK ABOUT PLANTING TREES AND, AND OTHER SORTS OF, UM, NICER SIDEWALKS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT GOES, BUT I'D LIKE IT TO LIVE SOMEWHERE.
I'D LIKE TO JUST HAVE MAYBE A GEN GENERAL DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AND GET, BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHICH IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT, WE WANT WALKABILITY TO INCLUDE SOME LEVEL OF COMFORT WITH THAT WALKABILITY.
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APPRECIATE THAT.BUT I, I AGREE WITH WHERE HE IS GOING WITH THAT, BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO DO A DEEPER DIVE ON THE IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE MISSING.
AND MAYBE THAT'S NOT A, A CONVERSATION FOR NOW, BUT I DO THINK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
IT IS A CONVERSATION FOR NOW, AND I WANNA ENCOURAGE IT.
I THINK THAT THIS IS WHERE WE SHOULD SPEND OUR TIME IS HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
'CAUSE IT IS THE MOST MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION FOR STAFF TO HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT DO WE MEAN? BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH AN ADOPTION PROCESS AT SOME POINT WITH THIS, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE'RE ALL COMING FROM.
YOU PROBABLY ALREADY DO ON SOME LEVEL, BUT IT IS A WORTHWHILE DISCUSSION.
SO IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC INITIATIVES, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THOSE MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
NOT TO SAY THEY MAKE IT IN OR DON'T, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVE.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK ALL OF THIS, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO ADDRESS ALL OF THESE POINTS IS ITS OWN FORM OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK IT WELCOMES PEOPLE INTO THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK PEOPLE PAY A PREMIUM, UM, TO LIVE IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT ARE CONNECTED.
UM, AND I THINK, I THINK, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES WANNA RELOCATE WHERE THEIR EMPLOYEES CAN COME IN AND WALK TO LUNCH OR WALK TO PICK UP DRY CLEANING OR WHATEVER.
SO I, I DO THINK THAT CONNECTIVITY MATTERS ON THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALWAYS COMES TO MY MIND IS JUST, WE TALK ABOUT THE TRAIL SYSTEM, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE THIS TOOLBOX THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
UM, BUT WE, WE REALLY NEED BETTER CROSSWALKS, LIKE GETTING PEOPLE ACROSS SOME OF OUR MAJOR THEFOR FAIRS.
AND WE'VE, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.
WE'VE, WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IT, BUT I I DON'T SEE IT AS AN INITIATIVE UNLESS I'M MISSING IT.
GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WANTING PEOPLE TO CROSS SAFER.
SO I MEAN, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE ACROSS THE TOLLWAY, RIGHT? AND THAT'S GOT ITS OWN CHALLENGES.
BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ONES THAT COMES TO MIND IS LIKE, IN MY AREA, WE, WE'VE BUILT OUT SOME GREAT, UM, SIDEWALKS.
UM, THERE'S SOME BIKE PATHS THERE, BUT THEN YOU GET TO LIKE BELTWAY AND MIDWAY AND THAT'S IT.
THERE'S NOT EVEN A CROSSWALK THERE RIGHT NOW.
SO RANDY LOVES TO MAKE FUN OF ME BECAUSE I WANNA WALK TO GRAB A BEER AND A HAMBURGER.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF I WANTED TO GO ACROSS MIDWAY, UM, THERE'S REALLY NOT A SAFE WAY TO DO IT.
I MEAN, THEY NEED TO BE WELL LIT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, DEDICATED SOMETHING THERE.
UH, SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST PAINT THAT GIVES EVERYONE MAYBE A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY.
AND THOSE INTERSECTIONS THAT, THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, YOU CAN COMPLETELY GET ME ON BOARD WITH LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT GOING ACROSS THE TOLLWAY.
AND I WOULD BE ALL ON BOARD OF GETTING OF, OF WORKING WITH DALLAS TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO SPEND DALLAS MONEY ON DALLAS, ON A DALLAS ROAD.
I THINK THAT RATHER THAN ADDISON TAX DOLLAR WELL ON THERE, IF, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING DALLAS TO DO SOMETHING THERE, I'M UH, ABSOLUTELY IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU.
BUT YOU STILL, IN ANY OF THESE ROADS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, EVEN IF WE WANNA TALK ABOUT CROSSING THE TOW LAKE, YOU STILL HAVE TO GO ACROSS THE SERVICE ROAD, WALK ACROSS YEAH.
AND THEN CROSS THE OTHER SERVICE ROAD.
UNLESS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EXORBITANT MONEY OF GOING UP AND OVER, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH SAFETY, WITH THE, WITH THE CROSSWALKS.
AND GOING ACROSS, BUT GOING ACROSS MIDWAY AT BELTWAY, SAME THING.
HOW, HOW DO YOU, HOW, I'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ON WHAT YOU THINK WOULD BE MORE SAFE THAN A CROSSWALK AND MINDING THE, THE, THE WALK SITES.
'CAUSE I WALK TO GET A BEER AND BURGER.
BUT IT'S, IT'S WHAT DO WE DO AND HOW DO WE DO IT IN A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY? AND, AND I THINK THAT'S MY POINT.
LIKE WE, WE GAVE BECKY $150,000 TO IMPLEMENT HER TOOLBOX, WHICH I THINK THERE'S SOME GREAT THINGS IN THERE, BUT I, I WANNA HAVE DEEPER CONVERSATIONS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO GET ACROSS MIDWAY.
WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO GET ACROSS BELTLINE? BECAUSE I, I DO THINK PEOPLE WANT TO DO IT.
AND, AND LET, LET, LET'S LOOK AT IT.
BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO CROSS THE STREET.
THERE ARE STILL CARS DRIVING ON THAT STREET.
SO WHAT IS THE BEST WAY, YOU KNOW, MINING THE SIDEWALKS AND, AND, AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
I'M ALL FOR CROSSWALK IN PLACES.
UH, IN ADDISON WITH ADDISON TAX DOLLARS.
AND I THINK THERE'S MANY PLACES THAT WE COULD LOOK AT PUTTING SIDEWALKS ALONG STREETS THAT DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS TO WHERE YOU CAN WALK.
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I WELCOME THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO BE HAD.SO, UH, MAYBE I'LL JUST JUMP ON ONE OF THE SPECIFIC POINTS.
AND I, AND I DON'T WANNA JUMP MENTION CHRIS'S POINTS, BUT NOT DIVERT THE CONVERSATION TOO MUCH ON THE, UM, THE TOY, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, THAT REALLY IS, WHEN IT'S TALKING ABOUT EAST WEST, IT'S TWO CONVERSATIONS, WHICH I THINK, WHICH FLESHED OUT EARLIER, WHICH WE NEED TO HAVE TOTAL EAST WEST CONNECTIVITY.
BUT IT WAS IN A LARGE PART TALKING ABOUT OVER THE TOLLWAY.
WELL, FIR FIRST A PORTION OF THAT IS ADDISON.
AND, UM, THE CONVERSATION WE HAD PREVIOUSLY WAS A LARGER PROJECT OF CLOSING THE U-TURN AND DOING SOMETHING BIGGER.
WE DON'T SEE THAT BEING SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA MOVE FORWARD THIS TIME FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
SO WE CAN LOOK AT A SMALLER PROJECT THAT MAKES IT SAFER TO GET ACROSS IN ADDISON, BECAUSE, UH, THE SOUTH SIDE IS ADDISON, RIGHT? RIGHT.
BY THE U-TURN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LINE.
SO WE CAN DO THINGS IN ADDISON, THAT'S NOT A, NOT A HUGELY EXPENSIVE PROJECT, BUT MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT.
SO I JUST DON'T WANT THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE OF A PREVIOUS PROJECT WE DISCUSSED, HAVE US SAY WE'RE NEVER GONNA TRY TO MAKE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE TOLLWAY BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO IN ADDISON.
AND THAT'S NOT TO SHUT DOWN THAT CONVERSATION.
JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT INTO THAT.
UM, TO THE OTHER CONVERSATION OF JUST OVERALL, WE, WE DO HAVE THE ONE INITIATIVE THAT SAYS, HEY, WE'RE GONNA FI FI WE'RE GONNA FINISH THE TOOLKIT AND GO FORWARD WITH IT IF WE WANT, IF WE WANT MORE INITIATIVES THAT WORK FAIRLY STATE, WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK THESE DISCUSSIONS ON INTERSECTIONS IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
THAT SOUNDS, I MEAN, I'M, I'M LISTENING TO YOU AND WE CAN DO MORE CLEAR THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL.
JUST MAKE IT MORE OBVIOUS WHEN THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE COMING, HOW WE'RE GONNA DECIDE WHERE WE GO.
SO, UM, HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS YOU A LITTLE BIT.
AND, UM, WE'RE LISTENING TO YOU AS WE THINK ABOUT WHAT THOSE INITIATIVES COULD BE.
I HAVE A QUESTION THEN, DAVID, YOU, WHILE YOU'RE ON THAT, UM, LET'S TALK SIDEWALKS, 'CAUSE THAT'S AN EASY ONE.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CROSSWALKS, BUT SIDEWALKS LEADING ON GOING EAST ON BELTLINE.
AS YOU GET TO INWOOD, THE SIDEWALK IS AS NARROW AS THIS TABLE.
THEN YOU GO FURTHER EAST AND YOU HAVE A SECTION THAT WOULD BE MONTFORT ALMOST PROBABLY BE BACK TO THE TOLLWAY.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WIDENING THOSE AREAS OF SIDEWALKS WITH OR WITHOUT OWNERSHIP OF THE, UH, BUSINESS CENTERS? YEAH.
UH, I MEAN THERE'S JUST, WE WOULD LOVE TO ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, I, I WALK ON THE SIDEWALKS AND THEY'RE, I DO TOO.
BUT SOME OF THOSE ARE TIGHT QUARTERS, LIKE BETWEEN BY THE VOP MM-HMM
WE, WE ARE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT SOLUTIONS THERE, BUT IT'S HARD TO FIND SOLUTIONS THAT DOESN'T TAKE PART THOSE PARKING SPOTS AWAY FROM VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.
SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE OWNERS OF VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY AS WE HOPE THEY IMPROVE THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
WORKING ALSO ON THAT PART, ON THAT SIDEWALK.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S SIMILAR IN OTHER SPOTS.
IT'S JUST A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION OF WORKING WITH THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY, WITH THE BUSINESS OWNER OR I EXTENT, AND HOW DO WE DO IT.
BUT I THINK THE MORE THAT WE EMPHASIZE IT FROM A COUNCIL LEVEL, THE MORE THAT WE CAN USE THAT AS WE'RE, AS WE GO FORWARD AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND LOOK AT, LOOK AT WHAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE.
SO, AND I WOULD JUST MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THE, THE CROSSING OF THE TOLLWAY.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION, ALL DIFFERENT KIND OF, UH, VISIONS FOR THAT.
AND SOME VERY EXPENSIVE AND SOME NOT POSSIBLE TO DO.
AND I THINK WHERE WE'VE REALLY KINDA LANDED WITH THAT IS THAT, UH, IS GETTING IT TO WHERE CREATING, UH, AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THERE'S MORE AWARENESS THAT THERE'S PEDESTRIANS, CROSSING THERE, MAKING IT MORE VISIBLE COULD TO THE DRIVERS.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE, YOU KNOW, DRIVERS ARE FAIRLY INATTENTIVE ALREADY.
SO WHAT CAN YOU DO TO, UH, TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT, THAT ALERTS THEM, SAY, I NEED TO PAY, I NEED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION HERE.
SO, SO THAT, AND, AND I THINK WE, WE CAN DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NOT HUGELY EXPENSIVE, BUT CAN, CAN TAKE SOME OF OUR APPREHENSION AWAY EVERY TIME WE SEE SOMEBODY CROSSING OVER THERE AND JUST HOPING THEY MAKE IT.
SO, SO I THINK IT IS DEFINITELY A DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO THAT.
UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE HOTELS THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET OVER THE VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY AND BACK, UM, IT'S, I THINK WE OWE IT, UH, OWE THEM A RESPONSIBILITY TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE THAT AS, AS, AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK THE NUMBER ONE THING IS LIGHTING.
IT'S SO DIMLY LIT WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YEAH.
LIGHTING AND, AND I THINK STREET MARKINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
IF IT WAS LIT UP, YOU CAN DO SOME DIFFERENT THINGS.
I WOULD WHOLLY LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION.
AND THIS IS, AND I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING IT.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THAT REMOVING THE U-TURN LANE HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF THE TABLE.
UH, ALL THIS CANOPY OVER THE TOP AND ALL THAT IS NO LONGER THE VISION OF THAT.
IF, IF THE VISION IS TRULY TRYING TO JUST IMPROVES SAFETY GOING ACROSS WITH LIGHTING OR SOME KIND OF CROSSWALK ACTIVITY,
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YOU, YOU WON'T HAVE A BIGGER FAN.SOME OF THOSE THINGS REALLY MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN, MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN A, A VISION OR MAYBE I USED THE WRONG WORD, BUT IT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION, RIGHT.
WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS WE COULD LOOK AT, YOU KNOW? BUT ONCE UPON A TIME PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A DECK PARK OVER THE, OVER THE TOW WEIGHT AND THAT THAT WAS IT.
PROBABLY PUT A GREEN DOT ON THAT PICTURE WHEN THEY SAW IT.
BIG GREEN DOT, BIG GREEN DOT
UM, I THINK, I THINK WHEN THE, UH, THE COTTON BELT TRAIL GETS COMPLETED, SPECIFICALLY THE PORTION, UH, TRAVERSING OVER THE TOLLWAY, WE'LL WE'LL SHARE A LOT OF INSIGHTS AS TO SOME OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT CAN BE DONE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, CROSSING, CROSSING THE TOLLWAY, UM, IN THE, IN THE FEEDERS AND SO, SO FORTH THAT, THAT CONNECT WITH THAT.
UM, WHEN I, WHEN I LOOK AT 3.2 AND 3.6, IT'S JUST, I JUST WONDER WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE WE'RE WANTING TO IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND THEN ALSO MAYBE ADD SOMETHING THAT TO THE LEVEL OF COMFORT TO THAT.
SO I JUST, I, I JUST, I DON'T SEE THIS MAJOR FOCUS WITH IMPROVE EAST WEST AS A NEED AS MUCH AS JUST OVERALL THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
UM, AND PRODU IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THOUGHT.
UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER THOUGHT I HAD IS WE DID THE, WE DID THE SURVEY AND, AND WE, AND WE SPOKE, NICK, WHAT WAS THAT, THREE WEEKS OR A MONTH AGO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UM, DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT THAT LONG, BUT A LOT HAS CHANGED, RIGHT? A TON HAS CHANGED.
SO, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE I HAD SOME, SOME DIFFERENT THOUGHTS ON 3.4 AND 3.5, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE THOUGHTS HAVE CHANGED.
UM, AND, AND I NO LONGER WANT TO CHANGE OR EDIT THAT AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE JUST, WE'VE GOT A LOT UP IN THE AIR THAT WE NEED TO, UH, RESOLVE.
UM, SO, SO I WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT SAID, HEY, LET'S LET THE MARKET, UH, FIGURE OUT FIRST MILE, LAST MILE, LET'S LET ENTITIES LIKE WAYMO, THAT KIND OF THING.
LET, RIGHT NOW, I JUST KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO KEEP THAT UP THERE AND, AND THAT'S OUR PROBLEM, OUR PROBLEM TO SOLVE.
AND UNTIL IT'S SOLVED, IT'S NOT SOLVED.
AND, AND, AND WE SHOULDN'T REMOVE IT OR MODIFY AT THIS POINT.
I THINK THAT'D BE PREMATURE, BUT, UM, UM, MY CHANGE WOULD BE STRIKE 3.2.
AND IF WE WANT TO ADD SOME, SOME WORDING THAT DARREN SUGGESTED, UM, I'M, I'M OPEN TO THAT.
WELL, I THINK IT'S COVERED IN 3.6.
THERE, THERE WAS A SPECIFIC DISCUSSION WHEN THIS ABOUT THE EAST WEST BEING THE PRIORITY INSIDE OF THE, THE, THE CONNECTIVITY.
AND, AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS THAT IT NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT.
IT COULD BE PLACED UNDER 3.6 OR, OR IMPLIED INSIDE OF 3.6 THAT EAST WEST IS THE TYPE OF CONNECTIVITY OR THAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT.
SO IT COULD BE IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND CONNECTIVITY, OR IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, COMFORT AND CONNECTIVITY OR SOMETHING TO THAT THAT ENCAPSULATES THE EAST WEST.
THE OTHER DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD AT THAT TIME, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, AND THIS IS WHY THE ADDISON WAY AND SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS HAD MADE IT IN THERE, WAS WE WANTED TO SPECIFICALLY SIGNAL TO THE COMMUNITY CERTAIN THINGS, HENCE WHY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WAS CALLED OUT SEPARATELY AS A KEY FOCUS AREA.
'CAUSE WE WANTED THIS DOCUMENT, WHICH IS PUBLIC FACING, TO BE SOMETHING THAT INDICATED OUR LEVEL OF INTEREST IN CERTAIN ACTIVITIES.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT WAS CALLED OUT SEPARATELY, IS WE WANTED FOLKS TO KNOW EAST WEST WAS THE PRIORITY WHEN WE WERE TALKING.
SO JUST FLAVORING THE CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT.
BUT SO THE TWO, UH, STRATEGIC IN THE INITIAL, I'M SORRY, THE INITIATIVES UNDERNEATH THE OBJECTIVES ON 3.2, UH, TWO OF 'EM ARE STRIKED OUT.
WHAT ABOUT 3, 2, 1 AND 3, 2, 1.
UM, YOU KNOW, I I THINK STRIKING WHAT THE TITLE OF THAT IS, IMPROVE EAST WEST PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, THAT WAS SO VAGUE, UM, TO WE, WE COULD RENAME IT TO, UH, IMPROVE STRATEGIC, UH, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY.
AND ONE OF 'EM WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT INTERSECTION.
'CAUSE EVEN THOUGH, UH, THE DALLAS, UH, NTTA IN DALLAS OWNS PART OF, UH, THE CROSSING AT THE TOLLWAY, IT'S STILL IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO GET PEOPLE ACROSS THERE.
AND IT, IT'S FOR, UH, FOR ADDISON'S GOOD, UH, FOR VILLAGE ON PARKWAY FOR THE HOTELS, FOR OTHER, UH, PARTS OUT ON MONTFORD ADDISON'S SIDE.
SO MAYBE THAT WILL BE SO THAT WE'RE SPECIFIC ABOUT THOSE BECAUSE THERE'S A VERY IMPORTANT BUSINESS PROCESS
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FOR PEDESTRIANS.UM, JUST IF WE KEEP IT AS THREE, TWO IMPROVE, UM, STRATEGIC PEDESTRIAN CONDUCTIVITY OR BUSINESS FOCUSED PEDESTRIAN CONDUCTIVITY, UH, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT CROSSING THAT INTERSECTION AT THE TOLLWAY.
UM, AND OTHER PLACES MAY BE GETTING ACROSS, UH, BELT LINE, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS THE WEST END OF ADDISON WALK.
MAYBE WHAT WE KEEP UP THERE, BUT IT, IT EASILY COULD GO UNDER THREE SIX ALSO.
WELL, YES, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INITIATIVES WITH THOSE THOUGH.
AND I THINK, I THINK MARLIN MAKES A GOOD POINT THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY GET RID OF THREE, TWO AND MAKE IT THREE SIX IN.
WE KEEP IT AT THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE LEVEL, THEN WE WOULD WANNA RENAME IT IF WE DON'T, UH, AND WE JUST STRIKE IT.
AND I THINK YOU COULD, YOU COULD COMBINE IT WITH 3.6 AND THEN MOVE THAT INITIATIVE OVER TO THAT.
WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THAT, THAT CONCEPT.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW THREE SIX SHOULD READ.
LET'S TALK ABOUT WE'RE STRIKING THREE, TWO, LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW THREE SIX SHOULD READ SO THAT IT ENCAPSULATES IT.
SO WE HAD STRATEGIC CONNECTIVITY, I BELIEVE IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND STRATEGIC CONNECTIVITY.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WHETHER IT BE, KEEP IT SIMPLE, WHETHER IT MEANS GETTING ACROSS MIDWAY, WHETHER IT MEANS GETTING ACROSS OR COMING DOWN BELTWAY.
WHETHER IT MEANS PUTTING IN A SIDEWALK, THE LESS IS MORE, IN MY OPINION ON THIS KIND OF STUFF.
AND, AND I'M BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION EARLIER.
LACK OF SPECIFICITY CAUSED US TO GO AHEAD AND SAY WE NEED MORE DEFINITION AROUND CERTAIN TERMS. I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ENOUGH THAT, AND WE ARE HAVING THE DISCUSSION SO STAFF UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE AFTER WITH THIS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE DIALING IT IN AT THE RIGHT LEVEL.
WELL, IF THE, WITH EAST WEST PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, IF, IF THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC.
THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION TO ME COMES IN BECAUSE IT'S SO BROAD.
NOT IF I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU INCLUDE EAST, WEST.
I, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND CONNECTIVE CONNECTIVITY.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S TWO, TWO SEPARATE THINGS.
SO 3.6, IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND CONNECTIVITY AND CONNECTIVITY.
AND I'M GOING NOW WAIT A MINUTE.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEFINE CONNECTIVITY FOR ME ON THAT THEN.
WHAT ARE WE CONNECTING? I IT'S PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS MY CONCERN.
BUSINESS CENTERS IS WHAT WE'RE CONNECTING.
I THINK RESTAURANTS TO EMPLOYEES, I THINK THEY'RE ALREADY CONNECTED.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE THEM SAFER.
BUT, BUT CAN WE IMPROVE THE CONNECTIVITY? WELL, IT IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
WELL, AND I'M SAYING CONNECTIVITY BECAUSE WE WANNA, WE WANNA MAKE IT BETTER AND EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO GET AROUND AS PEDESTRIANS AS CONNECTIVITY.
BUT THE CONNECTIVITY TO ME, MEANING WE'RE CONNECTING, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE THE END OF A TRAIL TO THE BEGINNING OF A TRAIL AS THEY GET ACROSS A ROAD.
I MEAN THE, THE, THE CONNECTIVITY I THINK IS IMPORTANT.
I JUST THINK YOU'RE THROWING MUD, MUD INTO THE WATER WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT.
PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS, IS WHERE MY CONCERN WOULD BE.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE IF THEY'RE TRYING TO WALK SOMEPLACE, PUT A SIDEWALK IN OR TRYING TO WALK ACROSS THE STREET, WE GOT A GOOD CROSS STREET.
WELL, I THINK IT'S YOU WHETHER CONNECTIVITY'S A PRIORITY FOR US OR NOT.
AND AND FOR ME, FOR ME IT'S A PRIORITY.
AND I MEAN, AND TO HAVE IT SEPARATELY MENTIONED I THINK IS IMPORTANT.
WHEN IT COMES TO THIS CONNECTIVITY CONVERSATION, AND I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT HERE, DOES CONNECT MAJOR DESTINATIONS IN TOWN.
ALSO, THAT'S KIND OF HELP TO THAT GAP GAP FOR US.
AND THEN WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THE SAFETY ISSUE, DOES PEDESTRIAN SAFETY TARGET THE TYPE OF THIS THAT WE'RE AFTER? I ONLY BRING THAT UP.
JUST I THINK WE'RE BEING REDUNDANT IF WE PUT THAT IN SIX.
I I GET YOUR POINT AND I GET YOUR POINT.
CONNECTING MAJOR DESTINATIONS IS AN IMPORTANT THING.
CON IT DOES, IT DOESN'T CONNECTIVITY'S A BIGGER THING THAN JUST THAT BECAUSE YOU, IT'S TALKING ABOUT CONNECTING TRAILS WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AND THOSE OTHER PARTS OF CONNECTIVITY.
THOSE ARE NOT MAJOR DESTINATIONS.
THOSE ARE JUST MAKING IT EASIER FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT DO WANNA GET OUT AND WALK OR RIDE A BIKE OR WHATEVER.
EVERY TIME WE GET SOME DEVELOPMENT AND WE, WE IT'S HAPPENING.
WE'RE JUST PUTTING IN AND WRITING NOW.
NO, I THINK, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE KEEP AND CONNECTIVITY AS, AS PART OF 3.6.
WHAT I'M HEARING THOUGH IS WE AGREE THAT 3.2 SHOULD GO YES, CORRECT.
WE DO HAVE GENERAL ASCENSION ON THAT.
OKAY, SO 3.2 AND NOW THE QUESTION BECOMES HOW 3.6 READS.
I, I THINK, UH, TO YOUR POINT, IT COULD FIT UNDER 3.5.
THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY THINGS COULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAY, OKAY, THAT'S CONNECT MAJOR DESTINATIONS.
THAT'S THE WEST SIDE OF THE TOLLWAY TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE TOLLWAY.
AND IN THIS CASE THAT'S, UM, INITIATIVE WOULD BE, UH, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY AND THE NEXT INITIATIVE UNDER THERE MAY BE A, UH, CIRCULATOR, WHICH FRANKLY THE CIRCULATOR COULD SOLVE
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THAT PROBLEM ALSO.I WANNA PROPOSE SOMETHING ELSE.
UM, I, I WANNA PROPOSE THAT WE WOULD KEEP WHAT THE MAYOR SUGGESTED ON 3.6, IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND CONNECTIVITY, BUT THAT WE CONSIDER REWORDING 3.5 AND, AND STRIKE MAJOR DESTINATIONS AND INSERT POINTS OF INTEREST.
SO CONNECT POINTS OF INTEREST IN TOWN.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING MUCH LARGER THAN VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.
AND IT, BECAUSE IT COULD BE THE MO IT COULD BE THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB.
IT COULD, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I THINK IF YOU DID THAT THEN YOU, THEN YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO INCLUDE CONNECTIVITY IN THREE SIX.
'CAUSE THAT MIGHT COVER IT THEN THAT ONE'S, WELL, ONE, ONE I'M THINKING PEDESTRIAN.
AND THEN ANOTHER ONE I'M THINKING, UM, SOME TYPE OF SHUTTLE, UH, SHUTTLE SERVICE OR SONDER SIDE, TWO DIFFERENT, TWO DIFFERENT, UH, PRODUCTS.
BUT YEAH, I MEAN I THINK YOU COULD DO THAT IN THREE FIVE, MAKE THAT CHANGE.
AND THEN YOU COULD LEAVE THREE SIX JUST AS IT IS.
UH, IF YOU DID THAT, YOUR SUPPORT, JUST SO YOU, WHAT YOU SUGGEST IS SUPPORT.
SO WHAT'S I'M LOOKING, WHAT'S BEING PUT OUT THERE IS THAT THREE FIVE WOULD CHANGE TOO.
AND CAN YOU SAY IT AGAIN FOR US? POINTS OF JUST REMOVE MAJOR DESTINATIONS AND INSERT CONNECTS POINTS OF INTEREST IN TOWN.
AND THEN WE LEAVE THIS AS IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN AND COMFORT.
DID WE TALK ABOUT THAT? WE KIND OF SAID THAT CAN GO UNDER INITIATIVE, INITIATIVE LEVEL, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, COMFORT WOULD KIND OF BE LIKE, UH, MOMENTS.
SO IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE SQUISHY.
AND, AND COMFORT THAT, BECAUSE THAT CAN ALSO GO WITH SOME OF THE, UH, THE OTHER, UH, WHAT WAS THE LAST ONE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, THE VIBRANT INACTIVE COMMUNITY? THE VIBRANCY.
I MEAN I THINK THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING UNDER THE POINTS OF INTEREST OR ON A TREE.
THAT COMFORT IS IS AND IT ROLLS INTO PARKS AND TREES, I MEAN RIGHT.
JUST IT'S MORE OF A, IT WEAVES THROUGH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PLACES.
AND I THINK THERE'S WAYS TO PUT THAT IN THERE.
I THINK IT DOES FALL EMBEDDED INSIDE OF INITIATIVES AS OPPOSED TO BEING A SPECIFIC CALL OUT IN THIS CASE.
THAT IS MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU GUYS.
AND I KNOW THEY'RE TAKING NOTES HERE, SO THAT'S GOOD.
AND SO CONNECT POINTS OF INTEREST IN TOWN.
WE'RE FEELING GOOD ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
YOU GOT SOMETHING ELSE ON THAT? OH, HE SAID WE WERE PLOWING THROUGH 3.1.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? GIVE ME A DEFINITION OF THAT.
NO, YOU, NO, YOU'RE JUST, 'CAUSE I'M THE PERSON IN FRONT OF THE ROOM.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO STRIKE THAT.
WELL IT'S NOT HIS DOCUMENT, SO, SO SOMEBODY ELSE I'D LIKE THAT I'M A MIRROR, YOU KNOW, MIRROR, MIRROR ON THE WALL.
UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S TALK IT THROUGH THREE.
ONE, ONE IS DONE, ISN'T IT? ALMOST DONE.
SO WHY IS IT THERE? IF WE'RE GOING MUCH OF THIS WILL, IT'S ALMOST OUTDATED.
WELL, IT'S DONE SINCE WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT IT BECAUSE THINGS COULD CHANGE.
IT COULD GET PUT BACK IN LATER.
I THINK MARLON WOULD DISAGREE WITH.
YEAH, I JUST TOTALLY, YEAH, SORRY.
YEAH, I I JUST THINK WE'VE GOT A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF WORK COMING, UH, ALL AROUND THE TOD OH, I, UM, UH, I SEE OTHER TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS THAT AREN'T HERE YET, WHETHER THAT BE WAYMO OR VERTI PORT, I DON'T THINK THAT FALLS UNDER THE CATEGORY OF MAJOR NORTH DALLAS TRANSPORTATION.
NOW, IF YOU WANNA REWORD IT INTO TRANSPORTATION TO OUR POINTS OF INTEREST, UH, THAT COULD DO THAT.
BUT BEING A MAJOR NORTH DALLAS TRANSPORTATION HUB IS THE WORDS THAT THAT HAVE ME.
DIDN'T YOU KIND OF DRIVE THIS ONE LAST YEAR? DO I REMEMBER THAT? UM, I DROVE IT.
AND, AND I THOUGHT WE ALSO COVERED IT WHEN WE COVERED MOBILITY, UM, A FEW WEEKS BACK ON THAT, ON THAT WE DO ITEM.
UM, BUT, BUT YEAH, I, I VIEW US HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY.
UM, UH, I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GONNA BE BIGGER THAN DFW AIRPORT OR LOVE FIELD, RIGHT? BUT, BUT WITH ALL THE VARIOUS, UH, MOBILITY OPTIONS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THE MIX, UM, THE, THE MORE WE CAN CON UH, CONNECT PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING OFF THE AIRPORT, SOME OF THEM TO MAYBE SOME OTHER MOBILITY OPTION, UH, THAT WE MIGHT ADD IN THE FUTURE, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY POWERFUL.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS WHERE WE BECOME MAYBE THE MOST, UH, RELEVANT, UH, PLACE ALONG THE SILVER LINE.
I'M STILL NOT FOLLOWING YOU ON A MAJOR NORTH DALLAS TRANSPORTATION HUB.
IF YOU WANNA SAY HAVE AN ADDISON TRANSPORTATION HUB, I CAN GO WITH THAT.
BUT I, I, I, I'M JUST, I GUESS I'M NOT GRASPING YOUR VISION ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THREE ONE.
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UH, I SEE THAT AS WHAT WE HAVE NOW IN DART WITH THEIR TRANSIT STATION RIGHT THERE AS, AS BEING THE HUB.I SO WHAT IF, HELP ME HELP SEE YOUR VISION.
SO WHAT IF WE HAD A, UM, IN THE FUTURE, WHAT IF WE HAD OUR OWN CIRCULATOR, RIGHT? THAT WAS, THAT WAS, UM, CONNECTED THROUGHOUT ADDISON AND MAYBE JUST A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE ADDISON.
WHAT IF WE HAD A, UM, YOU KNOW WHERE A VERTA PORT IS? OKAY.
SO WHAT IF WE HAD A VERTA PORT, UM, SOMEWHERE OVER THERE BY THE, UH, SOUTH OF, OF ADDISON CIRCLE PARK THAT'S NOT COMING IN THE NEXT YEAR OR NEXT THREE YEARS, BUT GO AHEAD.
BUT, BUT WE, NO, WE DO HAVE TO PLAN FOR IT NOW.
RIGHT? WE'VE GOT A ADDISON AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, AND IF, IF THINGS LIKE THAT AREN'T IN THE MASTER PLAN, THEN, THEN WE'RE THEN STAFF'S NOT FOCUSED ON PURSUING THAT.
WELL, I THOUGHT WE'D AGREED EARLIER THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE NEXT YEAR TO THREE YEARS.
SO IS YOUR CHALLENGE WITH THE WORD MAJOR, MAJOR NORTH DALLAS? YEAH.
SO WHAT IF IT JUST, WHAT? IT'S JUST, IF WE DROPPED, UH, MAJOR NORTH DALLAS AND JUST SAID SIGNIFICANT AND, AND HUB, TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE JUST TAKING A BIG SWING AND WE'RE TRYING TO THINK BIG, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
WHAT, WHAT WERE YOU WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT ADDISON'S GOING TO DO, BUT WE RELY ON NORTH DALLAS TO RELY ABSOLUTELY ONLY 17,000 PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WILL MAKE MY POINTS GO AHEAD.
THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M TELLING
BUT I MEAN, IT'S JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THERE IF WE JUST THINK ABOUT ADDISON ALONE.
I MEAN, WE NEED TO, BUT THIS PLAN IS FOR ADDISON TRACK PEOPLE HERE.
NO, I AGREE WITH THAT COMPLETELY.
I JUST, MAJOR NORTH DALLAS TRANSPORTATION HUB JUST DOESN'T RING TRUE WITH ME.
IT NEEDS TO HAVE A, AN ADDISON HEART AND I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH BUILD OUT AND HUB.
WHAT'S BUILD OUT PRECISELY WHAT IS BUILD OUT AND HUB TO YOU? UM, KINDA LIKE WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED.
I MEAN, SOME OF IT IS GONNA BE INFRASTRUCTURE.
I MEAN, UH, VERTI PORT IS GONNA REQUIRE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT? YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO LAND SOMEPLACE, SOMEPLACE SAFE, SOMEPLACE RELEVANT.
THEY'RE GONNA NEED CHARGING, UH, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, UH, ALSO TALKING ABOUT CIRCULATORS, UM, WE MAY NEED TO HAVE A A, A CERTAIN MAIN, MAIN HUB FOR THOSE CIRCULATORS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE YET, BUT, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT, UM, THAT WE CAN, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE THAT FAR FROM NOT IN THE, NOT IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS IN THE AIRPORT.
UM, THEY NEED THINGS LIKE THIS RIGHT NOW AND IN THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, IF WE'RE EVEN GONNA START MARCHING DOWN THAT PATH OF VER DEPORT.
SO IN A HYPOTHETICAL, FAST FORWARD A YEAR FROM NOW, AND THERE IS NO DARK TRANSIT CENTER THAT GOES AWAY.
IS THAT THE AREA? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT AS A, TO LAND THESE AIRCRAFT AND TO HAVE THESE WAYMO'S SECURED AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE IN THAT, IN THAT AREA.
BASICALLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CENTER, THE CENTER OF THE TOWN AND THE NEW HEART OF THE TOWN.
AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WORD HUB.
I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE IN ALL CAPS.
WELL, YEAH, THAT IS LIKE A BIG IS.
I I JUST, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S WITHIN THE NEXT FORESEEABLE FUTURE OF THIS PARTICULAR CONNECTIVITY THING.
I I, I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA FIGHT YOU ON IT BECAUSE I COULD LIVE WITH IT OR WITHOUT IT.
I'M JUST SAYING NORTH DALLAS BUILD OUT OF A NORTH DALLAS TRANSFER STATE HUB, I DON'T THINK'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST HARD TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT, I'M NOW ON YOUR PAGE.
I'M, I'M IN AGREEANCE NOW I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUR HEAD SPACE IS AT.
ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING IT FOR ME IS IF OUR VOTERS DECIDE TO STAY IN DART, LIKE I DON'T, I DON'T WANT THAT SITE TO BE AVERAGE.
I WANT IT TO BE THE BEST IT POSSIBLY CAN BE.
AND IF WE CAN BECOME A MAJOR NORTH DALLAS TRANSPORTATION HUB, WHY WOULDN'T WE TRY TO GET THERE? WELL, I AGREE, BUT THEN WE'D BE AT TO DART AMIR BETTER THAN MAKE THAN MAJOR PREMIER.
I WITHDRAW MY OBJECTION ON THAT.
SIMPLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I WOULD PREFER TO SAY ADDISON AND THEN THIS WAS DESIGNED TO BE MORE ASPIRATIONAL.
THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION AROUND IT WAS, IT WAS GOING FOR MORE ASPIRATIONAL ALSO THE, IF I RECALL, THE REFLECTIONS WERE ALONG THE LINES OF WE HAVE TO START PLANNING FOR THIS NOW IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY MAKE PROGRESS ON IT IF WE WANTED TO.
AND THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS RELATED TO IF WE HAVE FOLKS COMING HERE AND WE'RE THE PLACE WHERE THEY CONNECT,
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THEN THEY'LL STAY, THEY'LL SHOP, THEY'LL WORK.THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE DISCUSSION THAT I RECALL WAS IT IS MORE ASPIRATIONAL.
IT ALSO HAS SOME REAL DELIVERABLES THAT HAPPENED ON A SHORTER TIMEFRAME THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED IN ORDER FOR IT TO MAKE THE PLAN.
THAT'S WHAT I RECALL AROUND IT.
AND, AND, AND I THINK THE, UH, THE HAVING IT THERE AND KEEPING IT THERE AS, AS PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS, IS GOOD.
AND IT IMPORTANT TO DO THAT ONE, IT KEEPS, KEEPS THE TOP OF MIND FOR US.
AND IF THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT, IN THAT WORLD, IN THAT SPACE WITH THAT TECHNOLOGY ARE LOOKING FOR A, A LOCATION, THEY SEE THAT AS PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT MIGHT HELP THEM IN THEIR DECISIONS.
MAYOR, THAT I WITHDRAW MY CALL TO X THERE.
OH, THIS IS, THIS IS THE DISCUSSION WE SHOULD BE HAVING.
WE COULD CHANGE IT TO NORTH TEXAS TRANSPORTATION HUB, PREMIER NORTH TEXAS TRANSPORTATION.
I'LL, I THINK IT'S SWINGING BIG MAN.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY CARES.
I JUST, AM I GOING? I WORKING MY, THERE YOU GO.
UH, SO JUST A COUPLE POINTS ABOUT THE INITIATIVES ON THIS.
AND THIS IS, SO, I MEAN, I THINK YOU ALL BASICALLY SAYING THIS.
I THINK THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AS WE GO THROUGH THE YEAR ONE, WHERE THE INITIATIVES ARE GONNA CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHERE EVERYTHING LANDS.
UM, PARTICULARLY ON THE ONES THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
I MEAN, FIRST MILE, LAST MILE, CAN THE, THE WAY WE'VE CHANGED 3.5, THAT'S GONNA BE DEPENDENT ON HOW EVERYTHING PLAYS OUT FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
SO I THINK YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF CHANGES ON THAT.
BUT I ALSO THINK ON 3.1, THIS CONVERSATION, THIS CONVERSATION HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL FOR US.
I THINK THERE'S THINGS WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHT AS INITIATIVES IN THREE ONE, BUT TO HEAR THIS CONVERSATION HELPS ME TO CRYSTALLIZE SOME OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO WITH INITIATIVES ON THAT.
SO IT WAS HELPFUL TO HEAR THIS AS WE START TO DEVELOP THAT, I THINK YOU'LL SEE SOME CHANGES TO THOSE AS WE GO FORWARD.
YOU KNOW, MY, MY OPINION HAS CHANGED ON FIRST MILE, LAST MILE BEFORE GOING FORWARD WITH OUR VOTE TO PO TO HAVE A A A VOTE.
I, I, I WOULD BE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO FIRST MILE, LAST MILE, THAT'S SOMEBODY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO GET HIMSELF TO AND FROM THE BUS.
NOW THAT WE, THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO TRANSPORTATION, FIRST MILE, LAST MILE IS WHAT I'M HOPING WE CAN PROVIDE OUR RESIDENTS.
SO I I, MY MY OPINION HAS CERTAINLY CHANGED ON, ON THAT AND, AND I WANNA KEEP THAT IN.
SO BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING, WE'RE MOVING THROUGH THIS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATION.
I KNOW THIS IS WHERE THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS AND THE WAY THAT WE GO ABOUT AND THE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THE BIG PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.
WHAT I'LL SAY IS WE'VE TALKED, ONE, I DIDN'T, I HEARD SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR CHANGE.
I DON'T HEAR PREMIER NORTH TEXAS, TEXAS, THE WORLD.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THIS, BUT I'LL SAY THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NOT A REALLY STRONG, AND AGAIN, REMEMBER THIS AGAIN, AGREEMENT OR RECORD.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE SPACE WE'RE AFTER.
IT DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S AN OBJECTION TO KEEPING IT AS IS FOR NOW.
SO LET'S KEEP IT AS IS UNLESS ANYBODY REALLY WANTS TO HAMMER ME ON THAT.
WE'RE GONNA ROLL ON YOUR WORD VISIONARY CHANGED MY MIND.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE VISIONARY PUT IN EX IN MARKS UP THERE, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
WE'RE OUT WITH, UH, EAST, WEST PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY THAT IS GONE.
THREE, THREE IS SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED.
THREE, FOUR, WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED.
WE'RE OKAY WITH, UH, I THOUGHT THREE WITH MODIFICATIONS.
POINTS OF INTEREST WITH POINTS OF INTEREST.
POINTS OF INTEREST IS THE CHANGE THAT WE MADE THERE.
THREE AND THREE FOUR ARE THE ONLY OTHER ONES UP THERE.
UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, ANY SIGNIFICANT OBJECTIONS TO UPDATE AND IMPLEMENT THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN? I'M SORRY, CAN WE, CAN WE JUMP BACK TO THREE FIVE AGAIN? I THOUGHT WE MADE ANOTHER CHANGE WITH THAT.
IT WAS, UH, IT WAS, WE WERE GONNA ADD CONNECTIVITY TO THAT ONE.
IT WAS CONNECT POINTS OF INTEREST IN TOWN.
YES, IT WAS YOUR EXACT PHRASING, SO I'M GLAD YEAH, YOU AGREE WITH YOU.
AND THAT IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT'S GOOD.
SO MIMICKING ME,
UH, BUT, BUT HELP ME WITH THIS.
UH, THREE, THREE AND THREE FOUR.
WELL, LEMME TRY THREE, FOUR REAL QUICK.
IT SOUNDED LIKE WE MAYBE HAD, BECAUSE AGAIN, THREE WEEKS AGO MAYBE WE HAD SOME OBJECTIONS.
NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME OBJECTIONS WE DID TO THAT.
SO ARE WE OKAY WITH THREE FOUR? CORRECT.
AND MAYBE, UM, DOES THE CIRCULATOR FALL UNDER THERE? IT DOES FOR ME.
DOES FOR EVERYBODY ELSE? YEAH, IT DOES FOR ME.
CELL MICROT TRANSIT, UH, POINT TO POINT FALLS UNDER THERE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF ALL THAT.
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YEAH.WHICH IS ALL OF THAT IS WHY I WOULD YEAH, RIGHT.
CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS IN FOR MYSELF.
I I HAVE A QUESTION ON THREE THREE.
DOES IT, UH, ADDRESS BIKE LANES UNDER THREE THREE THAT WOULD I, AS I WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT IS WHERE BIKE LANES EXIST AT.
NOT, NOT IN THE INITIATIVE LEVEL.
THE ONLY INITIATIVE IN THREE THREE IS TO COMPLETE THE PLAN AND IMPLEMENT IT.
UM, THAT I WILL TELL YOU ALL AT THIS POINT.
WE WERE ON A SCHEDULE TO WRAP THAT UP VERY SOON.
WE ARE GONNA DELAY THAT UNTIL WE SEE HOW EVERYTHING PLAYS OUT WITH DART.
I'LL GIVE SOME CAVEATS TO THAT.
WE'RE GONNA, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA DELAY TO SAY, OH, BECAUSE THE PLAN WILL CHANGE NATURALLY.
OUR MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN WILL CHANGE IF WE ARE NOT IN DART, THAT IS NOT GONNA DELAY THE PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX AND THE TOOLBOX IMPLEMENTATION.
WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE ON THAT.
WE MAY BRING THAT, WE'LL BRING THAT SEPARATELY.
WE'LL APPROVE THAT SEPARATELY.
SO WE ARE GONNA KIND OF SEPARATE THOSE TWO.
BUT IT, IT WOULD NOT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO ADOPT A MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE TO REVISE IN SIX MONTHS.
BUT THAT IS NOT STOPPING THE TOOLKIT, I THINK.
I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH.
WHERE IN, UM, THESE INITIATIVES ARE WE PICKING UP, LIKE POSSIBLY HAVING TO FIND REPLACEMENT FOR DART? SO BASED ON MY IMPRESSION IN THIS DISCUSSION, IT WOULD BE BOTH THREE FOUR AND THREE FIVE, REALLY.
THREE FIVE IS WHERE IT WOULD PRIMARILY LIVE.
WE'RE SAYING CONNECT MAJOR POINTS IN TOWN.
UM, AND THREE, THREE WILL BE PART OF INSIDE THE MASTER ATION.
SO I, I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY SEE DIFFERENT PIECES OF THE INITIATIVES ALL THE WAY FROM THREE THREE TO THREE FIVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, SOME OF THAT WILL BE FLESHED OUT AS, AS WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION ON FEBRUARY 10TH ABOUT WHAT THOSE OPTIONS COULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, BUT IF THERE NEEDS TO BE VERBIAGE CHANGES TO MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE OPEN TO.
JUST, JUST DID, DID YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT? UM, WELL, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FIRST MILE, LAST MILE AND CONNECTING MAJOR DESTINATIONS IN TOWN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT REALLY PICKS IT UP.
I MEAN, BUT BEFORE WE EVEN PUT AN INITIATIVE ON THERE, I, WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ON WHAT DO WE REALLY WANNA PROVIDE? IS IT SOMETHING JUST TO ADDISON RESIDENTS? IS IT PROVIDING SOMEONE WHO MIGHT LIVE IN RICHARDSON BUT WORKS IN ADDISON? I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S COMING UP ON OUR FEBRUARY 10TH.
SO I, I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING.
WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND THEN I GUESS AT SOME POINT THAT'LL BECOME AN INITIATIVE.
'CAUSE THE INITIATIVES CAN CHANGE.
AND, AND YEAH, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IS YOU WOULD SEE THE INITIATIVES BE MODIFIED AS A RESULT OF THE DISCUSSIONS YOU'RE HAVING ON THE 10TH.
THEN YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND THE PLAN WOULD STILL FUNCTION.
HOWEVER, YOU'D HAVE A FEW INITIATIVES UNDERNEATH THAT THAT MIGHT ADDRESS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
UH, AND I, I GUESS I JUST WANT ONE PIECE OF CLARIFICATION.
AS YOU WERE WRAPPING EVERYTHING UP, YOU DID A GOOD JOB AND YOU SAID, HEY, THREE, TWO IS GOING AWAY, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE WHAT I AM HEARING IS THAT, IS THAT BECOME SYNONYMOUS FOR THE BELTLINE CROSSING.
WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE AN INITIATIVE THAT'S LITERAL AWAY THE TOY.
WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE AN INITIATIVE THAT'S LOOKING AT A SMALLER SCALE SAFETY FOCUSED CROSSING THAT WE MAY BRING BACK.
I JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE THAT AS INITIATIVE AND SAY, WELL, I THOUGHT WE COULD WRAP THAT UP.
THREE SIX, I THINK IS WHERE I'M WITH THAT.
SO SOMETHING, UM, SO THERE'LL BE OTHER ITEMS WITH THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS WITH OR WITHOUT DART.
UH, THAT MAY, THAT WE'LL DEFINE FURTHER IN A COUNCIL MEETING COMING UP.
IF THEY DON'T PARTICULARLY FIT UNDER ONE OF THESE, ARE WE JUST GONNA MAKE 'EM FIT SOMEWHERE? INITIATIVES OR WE'RE GONNA CREATE A NEW OBJECTIVE? IT'S POSSIBLE THAT YOU COULD CREATE A NEW OBJECTIVE AS YOU GUYS HAVE THAT, AS Y'ALL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
UM, IT COULD BE THAT THEY FIT VERY NEATLY INTO ONE OF THESE.
IT COULD BE A PART OF, AND I THINK THAT'S THE CATCH, WHICH IS, IS IT ACTUALLY IMPLIED INSIDE OF ONE OF THESE OR SOMETHING THAT COULD GET ROLLED UP UNDER THERE? I THINK IT'S A LITTLE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
IT'S HARD TO MAKE THAT CALL BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A MAJOR CALL.
IT WOULD BE MORE OF A PLACEHOLDER.
AND, UH, IT COULD WE ADD IN ANOTHER OBJECTIVE, BUT IT ALSO COULD BE THAT WE'RE TAKING SOME INITIATIVES UNDERNEATH THERE AND SAYING, HEY, THEY BELONG UNDER CONNECTING A, A, AGAIN, THE, THE POINTS OF INTEREST IN TOWN.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE OKAY WITH ADDING AN OBJECTIVE VERSUS, UM, NOT HAVING A PLACE TO PUT SOMETHING.
IF IT NEEDS TO BE THE CASE, I WOULD SAY YES.
AND YOU'D WANNA DO THAT BEFORE YOU DO FORMAL ADOPTION.
I WOULD SAY IN GENERAL THOUGH, IF IT DOES FIT UNDER HERE, AND THEN OF COURSE NEXT YEAR, ONCE WE KNOW WHERE THINGS ARE GOING, WE CAN HAVE A MUCH CLEARER CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT HAVE A LITTLE AMBIGUITY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE VOTE.
IS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFIC IN MIND RIGHT NOW? OR JUST JUST THE THOUGHT? YEAH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MAY NOT FALL DIRECTLY UNDER IT, LIKE THE, UM, PARATRANSIT, UM, EXPRESS BUS DOWNTOWN.
SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF JUST NOT UP THERE RIGHT NOW.
THE OTHER ONE IS, UM, WITH REGARD TO
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WHAT YOU MENTIONED, DAVID, ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE TOLLWAY AND BELT LINE CROSSING IS STILL ON THE RADAR AND IS STILL AN ACTIVE.UM, DO WE, AND I IT IS KIND OF AN INITIATIVE LEVEL.
DO WE HAVE LIKE AN INVENTORY OF, OF THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS? I THINK WE DO.
'CAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A TOOL, BUT PART, IT'S A TOOLKIT, BUT PART OF THE TOOLKIT.
BUT THE TOOLKIT WILL BE HOW WE ADDRESS THEM, BUT AS AN INVENTORY OF NOT INVENTORY OF TOOLS, BUT IN INVENTORY OF CROSSINGS THAT, THAT ARE GONNA BE THE ONES AND SIDEWALKS, OTHER PEDESTRIAN THINGS.
'CAUSE I, I MEAN THERE'S A LOT AROUND THERE.
I WANNA HIRE A CONSULTANT TO DO IT.
MAYBE WE CAN WALK AROUND, HAVE HOWARD WALK AROUND WITH THE NOTEPAD AND MURDER IT.
THE CROSSWALKS ARE GONNA GET REAL INTERESTING.
INVENTORY INVENTORY'S THERE OF ALL THE THINGS, ALL THE PLACES WE NEED TO DO.
THE PERFECT AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE'VE HIT A NICE POINT HERE FOR A SECOND.
WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I'M GONNA CALL A BREAK.
WE'RE GONNA COMPILE ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSED TODAY.
WE'RE GONNA PRINT OUT COPIES SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THOSE.
AND WE WILL DO ONE MORE REVIEW OF THE THING.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SEE IN THERE.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE A REVIEW OF EVERYTHING.
WE JUST CAME UP THE MODIFICATIONS, SO YOU HAVE ONE MORE CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
ONE MORE CHANCE TO MAKE COMMENT ON IT.
AND WE'RE GONNA WRAP UP THE DAY AFTER THAT.
SO THAT'S MY INTENT IS WE'LL HAVE YOUR ACTUAL WORDING CHANGED ON THE FLY.
SOME PRINTOUTS WILL BE COMING.
SO WE'LL TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK HERE JUST SO WE CAN STRETCH OUR LEGS UNLESS WE HAVE ONE FORM.
UM, SO WE REMOVED ONE OF OUR KEY FOCUS AREAS.
AND WE CAN JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT AND, AND BE MORE FOCUSED ON, ON SIX KEY FOCUS AREAS RATHER THAN SEVEN.
OR WE COULD ADD, ADD ANOTHER KEY FOCUS AREA AND WE WOULD RETAIN SEVEN.
AND MY THOUGHT COMING INTO THIS MEETING IS THAT WE WOULD DO WHAT WE DID, BUT ALSO ADD, UH, ADDISON AIRPORT, UM, AS THE SEVENTH KEY FOCUS AREA, JUST BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A MAJOR, UM, PART OF OUR OKAY.
AND IT'S A MAJOR, UH, DIFFERENTIATOR.
THIS IS THE POINT FOR THAT DISCUSSION.
SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING ADDING A SEVENTH RELATED TO THE AIRPORT.
I'M SUGGESTING ADDING, ADDING, UH, ADDISON AIRPORT AS AS A KEY FOCUS AREA.
IS IT CURRENTLY FALL IN YEAH, I WAS LOOKING, I THINK THERE'S VARIOUS THINGS, UH, ACTIVE OUT ACROSS APPLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
BECAUSE IT'S IN THE LEVERAGE ADDISON AIRPORT.
SO YOU'RE JUST WANTING ON THE STRATEGIC SPECIFIC.
YEAH, IT, IT, I THINK IT, UM, DESERVES, UH, BIG, BIG FOCUS THAT IT, IT'S NOT GETTING RIGHT NOW.
UM, THERE'S ALREADY, UM, INITIATIVES WE HAVE THAT ARE SCATTERED AROUND, UM, IN OTHER KEY FOCUS AREAS.
UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY COMPLETE THE ADDISON AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, UM, COMPLETE TAXIWAY BRAVO.
WE JUST, I DON'T FEEL THAT THAT WE AS A COUNCIL ARE FOCUSED IN ON THAT AS MUCH AS IT DESERVES.
WE DO A LOT OF WORK WITH IT, BUT, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD BE MORE FOCUSED.
I THINK IT'S A BIG ASSET AND I THINK WE OVERLOOK IT.
LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S, IT'S A, IT'S A CORPORATE GATEWAY AND IT'S A DRIVER OF ECONOMIC GROWTH, NOT JUST ON THE AIRPORT ECONOMIC, I MEAN, NOT REALLY ON THE AIRPORT ECONOMIC GROWTH, BUT ON THE WHOLE TOWN ECONOMIC GROWTH THAT IT'S, IT'S AN ASSET FOR THE CORPORATES THAT, UH, ARE HERE, ARE NEARBY, DO BUSINESS IN ADDISON.
SO, UH, I'M, I MEAN I'M NOT STUCK TO IT, BUT I'M IN FAVOR OF A GOOD CONVERSATION OF IT BEING A K OF A.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT IF I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT.
SO THEN WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT A HUNDRED POINTS AND NOW WE GOT ANOTHER ONE THAT NEXT YEAR, IF I WAS TROUBLE YEAR NEXT YEAR WE WILL.
NOW THAT IT WAS A FINE BOYS NOT TO DO ISSUE SELLING NEXT YEAR, IT WAS HARD.
I WAS HAPPY WE WENT TO SIX, BUT I, THE AIRPORT'S IMPORTANT.
I'LL MAKE IT 500 POINTS NEXT TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER.
IT MAY NOT BE, THAT MAY NOT BE ENOUGH.
MARLON, DO YOU HAVE ANY FOUR, DO YOU HAVE ANY FLOWERY LANGUAGE TO GO WITH THAT OR DO YOU WANT US TO COME UP? UM, I GO, ARE WE GONNA DO SOME WORDSMITHING? WE COULD, WE COULD, UH, WITH ALL THIS STUFF, ARE WE PROBABLY NOT THE KEY FOCUS AREAS, BUT I DON'T NEED, I MEAN FOR ME, ADDISON AIRPORT, IT'S AS, IT'S AS FOR THE KEY FOCUS AREA.
WORDING OR, OR WHAT STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES, KEY FOCUS AREA.
WE, WE'LL JUST TRY TO THINK OF WORDS TO MAKE IT HAVE THE SAME TENSE AS THE OTHER ONES.
WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
ADDISON AIRPORT WORKS FOR ME, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING BETTER, GREAT.
WOULD WOULD FEDERAL CONTROL OR
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FEDERAL FUNDING OF THAT AIRPORT, OR, OR WOULD, WOULD THAT CAUSE US ANY PROBLEM IN DOING THIS? I, I AGREE THAT IT IS, IT IS AN ASSET THAT WE NEED TO CONSTANT, IT NEEDS TO BE ONE OF OUR CONCENTRATIONS.BUT IS THAT IT'S A, IT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL TOO.
IT'S, IT'S AN ANIMAL OF A DIFFERENT SHAPE AND COLOR, SO.
UM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM HAVING THAT AS A KEY FOCUS AREA? WELL, THEN I WOULD SUPPORT IT IF THAT'S A NO.
SO WHAT ALL KIND OF THINGS DO WE WANT UNDER IT? SO, SO LET'S START WITH, FIRST OF ALL, ASCENDING IT TO A KEY FOCUS AREA.
I'M HEARING GENERAL, BUT I WANT TO, I WANT TO HAVE A PREFERENCE INDICATION THAT WE ARE ON BOARD WITH IT BEING ELEVATED TO THE LEVEL OF A KEY FOCUS AREA.
SO IF YOU'RE ON BOARD WITH THAT.
I'M GETTING THE GENERAL YESES.
AND WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU 500 POINTS NEXT YEAR.
I JUST, JUST FOR HOWARD, FOR HOWARD, HOW YOU'RE GONNA, I'M THE, I'M THE IGNORANT ONE HERE.
'CAUSE I REALLY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS AIRPORT.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE AIRPORT KIND OF RUNS AS ITS OWN ENTITY AND, AND WE APPROVE A LOT OF STUFF FOR THE AIRPORT.
WE, I MEAN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO PUTTING IT IN HERE, BUT IT, THESE THINGS SEEM TO BE LIKE WE HAVE DIRECT INPUT IN THE AIRPORT, SEEMS TO OPERATE INDEPENDENTLY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO WHETHER IT'S, I MEAN THERE REALLY IS NO THEY OR NOT, THERE IS.
SO YOU'RE THE AIRPORT JUST LIKE YOUR PARKS AND REC, JUST LIKE YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO, UM, AND THAT'S, I MEAN, AND I THINK WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP, TO NOT THINK OF IT THAT WAY, IF THIS HELPS US TO NOT THINK OF IT THAT WAY, THEN I THINK IT'S A GOOD IMPROVEMENT IS BECAUSE, UM, YOU'RE JUST AS MUCH THE AIRPORT AS YOU ARE.
THAT'S ONE REASON I'M SUPPORTING THIS IS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE THINK OF IT THAT WAY AS MUCH AS WE SHOULD.
AND IT WILL GIVE US MORE OF A INCLUSIONARY FEELING FOR THE AIRPORT.
AND I MEAN, GOING BACK TO YOUR MAJOR NORTH TEXAS HUB DEAL, IS THAT WHERE THAT WOULD FIT UP UNDERNEATH? YES.
SO BOTH OF THOSE WOULD BE GOOD.
AND I ALSO THINK THERE'S SOME CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE GENERAL FUND THAT THE AIRPORT HAS NOW THAT WE COULD GROW.
THAT'S WHY I WOULD SUPPORT IT BEING A, A FOCUS.
DAVID? I, DAVID, I'D ASK THAT AND MAYBE BRUCE, YOU CHIME IN ON THIS.
UM, IS IT A PART OF, AND MAYBE I MISSED IT, OUR FRIDAY NEWSLETTERS, COULD THAT BE A PART OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING AT THE AIRPORT CALL? WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE AIRPORT MAYBE ONCE A MONTH? SOME PEOPLE THAT DO READ THAT NEWSLETTER VERSUS BEING PASSED OVER SO MUCH.
WE CAN CONTINUE TO, TO DO THAT.
WE COULD BE EMPHASIZING IT MORE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF STEPPING TO FRIDAY REPORTS THAT GO TO YOU ALL.
WE DO DO NEWSLETTERS AND FREQUENTLY, BUT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE DO, WE CAN, YEAH.
JUST IF SOMETHING EXCITING IS HAPPENING AT THE AIRPORT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THEN THAT WE'RE TAKING THIS ONE RIGHT HERE RELATED TO THE ADDISON AIRPORT 2.5 AND MOVING IT IMMEDIATELY UNDERNEATH THAT SEVENTH.
SO IT AREA AND THEN WORK ON DRAFTING ADDITIONAL STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES UNDERNEATH THAT.
IS, IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO MOVE THIS? I THINK THERE, YEAH.
AND I MEAN I THINK THERE'S A CLEAR ONE THAT MARLON MENTIONED.
IT WAS COMPLETE THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN THAT WILL BE CERTAINLY A STRATEGIC, YOU KNOW, STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE.
COMPLETE THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN.
AND RIGHT THERE, THAT'S NOT DISSIMILAR TO NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS WE'VE GOT TWO UNDER IT AS A STARTING CONDITION, WHICH GIVES US A PLACE TO START THE DISCUSSION FROM AS IT COMES TO THE AIRPORT AND, AND HOW WE'RE VALUING IT OR WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT AS A FOCUS AREA.
I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT BEING INCONSISTENT.
WE'VE GOT NUMBER FOUR, IT'S GOT TWO STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES UNDER IT.
WE'VE GOT THE AIRPORT NOW THAT HAS TWO STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES UNDER IT.
AND SO WE'VE GOT COMPLETE THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN AND THEN THIS ONE THAT WE HAD HERE, WHICH IS LEVERAGE THE ADD ADDISON AIRPORT.
THOSE TWO FEEL LIKE STRONG STARTS IN TERMS OF STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES FOR THE AIRPORT IN GENERAL.
YEAH, DEFINITELY IN THE MASTER HUB TRANSPORTATION HUB.
I MEAN, WOULDN'T THAT FIT UP UNDERNEATH THE IT IS PARTIALLY, BUT, BUT TRANSPORTATION NOT JUST THE AIRPORT.
IT SO IT, IT'S CONNECTED TO THAT.
IF WE'RE, OKAY, I'D LIKE TO HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON HERE AND LET'S TRY PRINTING OUT WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH HERE AND HAVE A JUST A MOMENT TO READ IT AND REACT.
SO INITIATIVE 5.26, LIKE I'M TRYING TO, I'M, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME FIGURING OUT WHERE THAT 5.2 3 6 6, 5 0.26.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SUB-BULLET.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN INITIATIVE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE INITIATIVE LEVEL INITIATIVE.
SO I MEAN WE'RE, I DON'T HAVE THE INITIATIVE LEVELS UP HERE.
WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS SUSTAINABILITY.
I KNOW WE HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION ON THAT LAST YEAR.
AND I FEEL LIKE WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE MUCH.
I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORWARD MORE SUSTAINABLE EFFORTS.
I THINK IT CAN BE PART OF OUR BRAND.
I THINK IT ATTRACTS PEOPLE TO THE TOWN.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THAT FITS IN.
AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T DONE MUCH FROM LAST YEAR, BUT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE CONVERSATION ON SUSTAINABILITY ELEVATED AND YOU'D LIKE TO SEE MORE PROGRESS MADE ON THOSE FRONTS IS THAT I WOULD, IN, IN ENCAPSULATION, I WOULD.
AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT A, AN INITIATIVE OUT THERE.
I'M, I'M GUESSING IT FOCUS IT, IS IT FALLING UNDER, WELL,
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IF IT'S UNDER FIVE TWO, THIS ONE, ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE.THAT'S FINANCIAL HEALTH AND ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE.
IT LOOKS LIKE IF IT'S 5, 2, 6, THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE IT AT.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET THERE.
UM, WELL THAT'S AN INITIATIVE, CHRIS, SO I ASSUME THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE COULD PROBABLY PUT ON THE WORK SESSION AT SOME POINT AND GET AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE WITH THAT.
I MEAN THAT'S, I THINK IF THERE'S, SO THAT INITIATIVE WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO BECAUSE IT'S ON THE PLAN.
BUT IF, IF YOUR GOAL IS TO ASK COUNCIL IF THEY WANT TO ELEVATE SUSTAINABILITY TO A STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE WITH MORE INITIATIVES, I THINK THIS IS THE TIME.
IF THAT'S WHAT, NOT TRYING TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MAYBE A WAY TO ASK COUNCIL.
I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, UM, TO IMPROVE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.
YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF OLDER OR MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES THAT DON'T RECYCLE AT ALL.
I KNOW WE HAD YEARS AGO LOOKED INTO SOME PILOT PROGRAMS TO SEE IF WE COULD OFFER THAT AND THAT KIND OF FELL ALONG THE WAYSIDE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE RECYCLE IN EVERY SINGLE TOWN BUILDING, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR HAD A, HAD A DECENT CONVERSATION AND I'D LIKE JUST TO MAYBE TAKE THE PULSE OF EVERYONE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY CONCERN OR WOULD LIKE TO ELEVATE THAT.
I I WOULD, BUT WHERE WOULD IT GO? UNDER WHAT? KFAI KNOW, I, I GUESS THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.
I MEAN, THE FACT, FACT THAT IT'S JUST AN INITIATIVE RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, I I, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THAT, BUT I WANNA DO MORE THAN JUST HAVE IT AS AN INITIATIVE.
I, I WOULD LOVE TO JUST SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, YOU KNOW, AS A COUNCIL, UM, TO MAYBE ELEVATE THAT A BIT.
SO, SO IF IT WERE A STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE, WOULD YOU PUT IT UNDER FIVE? LIKE ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE OR, OR WHAT? UM, WELL, THAT'S WHERE IT IS, RIGHT? THAT'S WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW.
THERE WE'VE, WE'VE GOT ONE THAT JUST SAYS ELEVATE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE THE WASTE AND RECYCLING CONTRACT AT THE TOWN.
AND THAT'S AN INITIATIVE, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
AND SO, SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ELEVATING SOMETHING, SUSTAINABILITY, UH, AS A STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE OBJECTIVE UNDER FIVE, RIGHT? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE THOUGHT.
SO WHAT, HOW WOULD YOU WORD THAT SUSTAINABILITY, UM, FOCUS ON SUSTAINABILITY? UM, IMPROVE SUSTAINABILITY? SOMETHING, SOMETHING BROAD? UM, YEAH, I THINK SO BECAUSE, YEAH, BECAUSE I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THERE'S PROBABLY SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT, LIKE TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO GET SOME OF OUR MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES THAT AREN'T RECYCLING TO RECYCLE.
UH, WHAT ABOUT IMPROVED SUSTAINABILITY OPTIONS? I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, I MEAN, I'M JUST SPIT BALLING HERE.
I'M, YEAH, I'VE GOT A BETTER IDEA.
EFFORTS, I THINK IS A BETTER WORD.
IF, IF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO RECYCLE AND THINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE GOING, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.
AND I, I ALMOST WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE JUST DIRECTION TO STAFF TO SAY, START RECYCLING AT, AT OUR FACILITIES AND, UH, APPROACH APARTMENTS WITH IT.
IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS SUSTAINABILITY IN THE WAY OF WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE, UH, UH, BUILDING CODES THAT WE'RE BUILDERS HAVE TO START, UH, BUILDING AT A HIGHER LEVEL IN, IN EXPENSE, UH, UM, AND GETTING RID OF CARS BECAUSE THEY HAVE EMISSIONS.
I WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO ANY OF THOSE EFFORTS.
BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SIMPLE RECYCLING EFFORTS OR PICKING UP TRASH EFFORTS, THINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE.
YOU HAVE A, YOU DON'T HAVE A BIGGER FAN THAN YEAH, THAT EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO IMPOSE UPON OUR BUSINESSES THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET THESE HIGHER NO, I WOULD, AND I WOULD NEVER DO THAT.
I NEVER, I'VE NEVER WANT TO YOU INCREASE THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS IN ADDISON.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
DO ALL OF OUR OFFICE TOWERS RECYCLE? DO THEY OFFER, IS THERE SOMETHING REALLY SIMPLE WE COULD DO TO ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT? DO WE HAVE COMMERCIAL ENTITIES IN TOWN THAT MIGHT HAVE A PRODUCT THAT THEY'RE THROWING IN A DUMPSTER THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP THEM RECYCLE? I I, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT LIKE ALL THE RESTAURANTS WE HAVE, I WAS JUST GONNA, THERE'S A WAY TO REDUCE WASTE IN SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS.
IF WE, WHAT IF WE ADDED 5.6 IMPROVED SUSTAINABILITY OPTIONS, EFFORTS OR EFFORTS? EFFORTS.
PARDON? I EFFORTS SAID OPTIONS.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY GREAT CONVERSATION, BUT YOU'RE MOST MAINLY FOCUSED ON RECYCLING.
SUSTAINABILITY CAN BE A LOADED TERM FOR SOME FOLKS.
WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH JUST SAYING RECYCLING OR DO YOU WANT TO KEEP IT MAYBE WHERE OTHER THINGS COULD FIT IN WITH, I GUESS THAT'S WHERE SUSTAINABILITY IS WHAT TRIGGERED ME.
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JUST WHERE I'M CHALLENGED.I, YOU KNOW, YES, RECYCLING IS PART OF SUSTAINABILITY.
UM, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE.
I WAS TRYING TO, AND, AND WE CAN, AND WE CAN, WE CAN START BY SAYING, HEY, LET, LET'S TRY TO IMPROVE OUR RECYCLING EFFORTS AND THEN SEE WHAT STEPS COME, POPS UP NEXT BABY STEPS AND SAY EXPLORE RECYCLING SUSTAINABILITY.
SUSTAINABILITY IS THE SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT THEN WE START TALKING ABOUT IN OTHER PLACES OF THE WORLD, TRYING TO GET RID OF GAS APPLIANCES AND, AND, AND PUTTING DIFFERENT EMISSION LEVELS ON BUILDINGS AND IT STARTS STIFLING THINGS.
AND I DON'T, THAT'S WHAT TRIGGERED ME.
IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE LET BABY STEPS.
I SAID WE CAN START DOING THAT.
I THINK IF WE CAN START WITH ONE.
OH, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO, YEAH, I JUST WANT, WANT TO KIND OF BACK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT FROM THAT.
REALLY GOOD, GOOD, GOOD DISCUSSION.
AND AND THE IDEA IS GREAT AND, AND I LIKE THAT WE HAVE THE INITIATIVE HERE FOR ME.
I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE, I, I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MOVE THAT UP AS A STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE.
RATHER WE SHOULD, WE, WE COULD GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO KIND OF ELEVATE THIS ON THEIR PRIORITY LIST BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY HERE.
I DON'T, I I, I DON'T REALLY SEE, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT INITIATIVE, TWO, UH, 5, 2, 6, UM, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY THERE.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I JUST THINK WE SHOULD MAYBE JUST IMPLEMENT IT AT A, AT A HIGHER LEVEL OR GIVE IT A HIGHER PRIORITY.
OR MAYBE JUST ADD TO THAT INITIATIVE.
WE COULD ADD OTHER IN, BECAUSE I MEAN, I COULD, I COULD I, LET'S SUPPORT THAT.
RECYCLING EFFORTS FROM INITIATIVE PERSPECTIVE.
IF WE'RE GETTING SOME REPORTS BACK FROM STAFF ON WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WE OBVIOUSLY WANT A LITTLE MORE VISIBILITY INTO THE TOPIC.
AND IF STAFF IS COMING BACK AND REPORTING OUT ON THAT AS AN INITIATIVE TO YOU, WE WOULD JUST LIKE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WHAT ARE THE IMPEDIMENTS THAT ARE CREATED? AND HAVING WORKED IN A NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES, THERE'S ALWAYS IMPEDIMENTS WHEN IT GETS INTO THAT CONVERSATION.
SO IT'S LIKE, WHAT CAN WE DO TO REMOVE BARRIERS? WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE? HOW CAN WE ENHANCE WHAT WE'RE DOING? WE'D LIKE A GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.
DOES THAT HELP ELEVATE IT ON THIS? AND I, I THINK PART OF WHAT COULD BE THE FUTURE, IT'S A BABY STEP NOW, BUT LET'S TAKE A LOOK TOO AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENHANCEMENT THAT CREATE CHOICES? 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE A CHOICE BASED COUNCIL, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO MANDATE, WE'RE LOOKING TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE PROHIBIT IT.
IS THAT, YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.
OKAY, SO, SO LET'S RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S AN INITIATIVE THAT'S IMPORTANT AND WE DO NEED, NEED SOME MORE DISCUSSION ON IT.
AND I WOULD, BUT I PROBABLY WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE INITIATIVE OR AT LEAST ADD, IMPROVE RECYCLING EFFORTS.
'CAUSE IT GETS INTO IMPROVE THE WASTE AND RECYCLING CONTRACT FOR THE TOWN, INCLUDING COMMERCIAL RECYCLING.
I THINK WE CAN, I THINK WE HAVE TWO INITIATIVES.
I JUST, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THIS AND I THINK BASED ON THIS CONVERSATION WE'RE GONNA HAVE MULTIPLE INITIATIVE RELATED.
UM, LIKE GIVE QUICK EXAMPLE TO THIS POINT, AND I, I SHOULD KNOW THIS ANSWER, BUT IN OUR, IN OUR OWN CITY, IN OUR OWN TOWN PARKS, IF I THROW AWAY A WATER BOTTLE, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT SAYS JUST, JUST A CIRCULAR TRASH BIN OR IT SAYS RECYCLING GOES HERE AND THE OTHER HALF IS WASTE IT.
I JUST, MAYBE I HAVEN'T PAID ATTENTION TO PARK OR IT SHOULD BE A TRASH YOU HAVE, BUT MAYBE THAT'S THAT EFFORT HE'S TALKING ABOUT WHERE YOU, EVERY PARK HAS A SPLIT TRASH CAN GOING FORWARD SPACE.
THANKS FOR RAISING THAT ISSUE.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 25 ACCORDING TO THAT, WHICH MEANS WE'RE COMING BACK AT 40.
AFTER AT 40 AFTER WE'LL BE REVIEWING WHAT WE DISCUSSED TODAY.
HA HAVING TO DO WITH THE AIRPORT THAT THE BIG DISCUSSION WE HAD ON MOVING IT OVER TO AN OBJECTIVE HERE.
I, IS THAT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE SUCH A BROAD CATEGORY JUST AIRPORT IN THERE? UH, BEING, BEING THAT, OR IS THERE A BETTER WAY OF SAYING THAT OTHER THAN AIRPORT? THERE'S A BETTER WAY OF SAYING THAT OTHER THAN AIRPORT.
I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT THAT MIGHT BE, BUT IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE ACTIVATE AIRPORT OR, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL PHRASING YOU COULD THROW INTO THAT.
I THINK IT COULD BE SOMETHING WHERE STAFF COMES BACK AND MAKES A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO REPHRASE THE KEY FOCUS AREAS SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OTHERS IN TERMS OF THAT.
UM, AND WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS ON THAT? IS THERE, IS THERE A BETTER WAY OF SAYING THAT THAN AN AIRPORT OR? WELL, I'M, I'VE BEEN HAVING THE SAME THOUGHTS.
I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING YET, BUT WE ARE GONNA HAVE A WORK, SO WE'LL HAVE A WORK SESSION IN FEBRUARY WHERE WE JUST TOUCH BASE ON THIS AND THEN WE'LL ADOPT IT AT THE SUBSEQUENT ONE.
RIGHT? WE'LL, WE'RE GONNA THINK ABOUT IT.
I REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE PUTTING AN EMPHASIS AND FOCUSING ON IT, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T, YOU CAN SUGGEST IT FEEL RIGHT THE WAY THAT THAT WAS LIFTED FOR A MOMENT.
I WAS KIND OF SAYING PUBLIC SAFETY IS SIMILAR, BUT PUBLIC SAFETY ALSO MEANS, RIGHT.
SO AS LONG AS WE CAN COME BACK AND
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ADDRESS IT AND HAVE A, HAVE A FURTHER CONVERSATION ON, OKAY.I OWN AT LEAST LIKE IT CHANGED TO ADDISON AIRPORT.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST AIRPORT LIKE A MOVIE, ISN'T IT? RIGHT.
AND IF IT WENT TO ACTIVATE ADDISON AIRPORT, IT TURNS INTO AAA.
BUT THIS SOUNDS LIKE A CREDIT RATE OR A CAR.
SO ADDISON AIRPORT MAYBE IS A STARTING CONDITION.
WE MOVE IT TO THAT CALL, CALL THAT THE, THE KFA FOR NOW AND WE CAN, AS YOU SAID, MAYBE SOME HOMEWORK IS TO THINK ABOUT A, A BETTER PHRASING FOR THAT KEY FOCUS AREA FOR THAT FEBRUARY 10TH DISCUSSION.
BUT, BUT HAVING IT LISTED AS AN INDIVIDUAL ONE, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT INDICATING TO ANYONE THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH OUR AIRPORT OR MANAGEMENT OR RUNNING A PUBLIC SAFETY OR, YEAH.
UH, ESPECIALLY THERE'S THAT IT'S THE HIGH PRIORITY.
RIGHT? AND, AND WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT OR DEAL LISTED AND I JUST DON'T WANT THE AIRPORT PEOPLE TO THINK, WE THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE AIRPORT EITHER.
SO ANYWAY, FURTHER CONVERSATION WOULD BE APPRECIATED ON THAT.
HOW WOULD WE NAME IT? ADDISON FIELD? YOU KNOW, NO DEATH.
HOW ABOUT ADDISON RUNWAY? ADDISON AIR AIRPORT? WHAT STEP SAY WHERE YOU WANT.
THANKS TAP SEEMS LIKE IT CAPTURED WHAT WE WERE I CAPTURED WHAT WE DID.
HOW YOU GONNA YY UP THROUGH THE LAST MOMENT OF THE THING? WE'RE OUTTA HERE.
BUT HEY FRIENDS, IF WE'RE THERE, THEN WE ARE.
UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THE THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION.
I REALLY ENJOY VISITING THIS COMMUNITY THAT YOU ALL ARE LEADING HERE.
IT'S ALWAYS EXCEPTIONAL TO COME BACK TO ADDISON AND SPEND SOME TIME DOING THAT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SOME SAFER ROAD CROSSINGS NEXT TIME I'M BACK IN TOWN.
UH, AND THAT, THAT WAS 'CAUSE OF THE ICE.
THAT WAS 'CAUSE OF THE ICE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT IT.
I DON'T WANNA MAKE IT ACROSS THE STREET ON MY THIRD BURGER AND BEER.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CROSSING SAFELY.
SO WITH THAT SAID, THAT'S MY TIME WITH YOU ALL.
I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR DEDICATION TODAY.
THANKS FOR THE THOUGHTFUL COMMENTARY AND DISCUSSIONS.
I REALLY APPRECIATED THE ONE-ON-ONES, THE SURVEY, THE TIME AND ALL OF THAT.
I'M SORRY I, BEFORE THE END HERE, UH, I WANTED TO DISCUSS ON COUNCIL IS, IS THIS THE TIME TO DO THIS? DO WE WANT TO CONSIDER DOING THIS IN FEBRUARY? 'CAUSE WHEN I CAME ON COUNCIL, WE DID THIS STRATEGIC PLANNING RIGHT AFTER ELECTION, LIKE IN MAY AND I HAD ASKED TO TO MOVE IT TO THIS TIME.
SO WHEN I THOUGHT EVERY SEVERAL YEARS, WE SHOULD CONSIDER IF IT MAKES SENSE CHANGING THE TIMING OF THIS.
HE GIVES STAFF PLENTY OF TIME TO, TO PREPARE.
JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AS A, ANY CONVERSATION IF ANYBODY'S REALLY, I PREFER THIS TIMING ACTUALLY.
IT GETS HARD TOO COMPRESSED AFTER ELECTION.
YEAH, I WOULD JUST PROVIDE SOME CONTACT.
I WOULD TELL YOU EVERY CITY IN TEXAS BATTLES THIS BECAUSE OF OUR ELECTIONS IN MAY AND OUR BUDGET IN OCTOBER OR YOU KNOW, IN SEPTEMBER AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
SO THE BENEFIT OF DOING IT NOW IS IT IS IN ADVANCE OF THE BUDGET PROCESS AND IT REALLY HELPS US TO GUIDE THAT.
BUT IT ALSO MEANS WE COULD HAVE ELECTION TURNOVER IN MAY, NOT JUST A FEW MONTHS AFTER.
THE NEGATIVE OF DOING IT IN AFTER THE ELECTION IS WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A BUDGET.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT HELPS US GUIDE THE BUDGET.
SO I THINK IT IS GOOD PERIODICALLY TO BRING THAT QUESTION UP TO SAY, IS THIS A TIME THAT WORKS? UM, THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS TO DOING IT NOW, BUT THERE IS THAT BIG DRAWBACK OF, OF THE ELECTION.
YOU KNOW, THE ONE IDEA I HAD WAS, UM, WE COULD JUST PUSH IT BACK MAYBE TWO WEEKS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND SOMETIMES IT WOULD JUST REMOVE THE QUESTION OF, OF THE, THE NEW COUNSEL TURNOVER, IF ANY.
UM, IT'S JUST A THOUGHT TWO WEEKS AFTER, AFTER FILING.
OH, THAT'S ABOUT WHAT, AFTER HALF FILING? AFTER FILING DEADLINE.
WE'RE DO WE'D DOING IT THE SAME TIME A YEAR.
YOU STILL COULD HAVE TURNOVER.
YOU STILL COULD, BUT SOMETIMES YOU'D KNOW YOU'RE NOT AND YOU'D TAKE, REMOVE THAT QUESTION.
IF IT, I THINK IF SOMEBODY'S GOT IT IN THEIR HEAD THAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT RUNNING, THAT IF IT'S IMPORTANT THEN THEY WANNA BE HERE, THAT THEY WOULD BE HERE.
UH, BUT MOST PEOPLE DON'T COME ANYWAY.
AND, AND, AND IT'S UH, IT'S ONE THING TO BE IN THE ROOM, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A VOICE, IT'S JUST KIND OF, BUT THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.
SO IF ANYBODY'S NOT, BUT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A VOICE ANYWAY.
BEFORE YOU GET TOO BUSY, RIGHT, EVERYBODY.
AND I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, IT IS HARD WHEN,
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YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF YOU RAISE YOUR HAND, YOU, YOU WANNA BE INVOLVED IN THE TOWN, YOU HAVE TO RUN AN ELECTION, SOMETIMES INCUR THAT EXPENSE, AND THEN YOU GET ON COUNCIL AND YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU REALLY DON'T, YOU DIDN'T HAVE A VOICE.YOU'RE OPERATING UNDER A STRATEGIC PLAN WHERE YOU, YOU DIDN'T HAVE A VOICE.
AND, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE AND I, I HEARD YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST SAID.
SO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M OPPOSED TO IT, BUT I JUST THOUGHT I MENTIONED THERE IS, THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT PUSHING IT BACK TO AFTER THE ELECTION TO GIVE SOMEONE WHO SPENT THE MONEY, SPENT THE TIME GETTING ELECTED, HAVE A VOICE IN THAT STRATEGIC PLAN THEIR FIRST YEAR.
WELL, AND YOU KNOW WHAT THOUGH, CHRIS, I THINK IF SOMEBODY'S GETS ELECTED FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND IF YOU WENT TO, TO DO THIS RIGHT AFTER YOU GOT ELECTED, YOU, YOU'D BE LOST ANYWAY.
YOU, YOU, YOU'D BE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT MUCH INPUT.
SO YOUR VOICE MIGHT BE KIND OF QUIET FOR, FOR SOME FOLKS.
HUNTERS, SOMETIMES SOME FOLKS MIGHT NOT.
I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN ANYTHING.
I MEAN, MA'AM AND I THINK IT'S A WAY BETTER, I JUST THOUGHT I'D THROW THAT OUT THERE, THAT THERE IS ANOTHER SIDE TO IT.
BUT I, WELL, I CAME ON TO COUNCIL, I WAS EXACTLY IN THAT POSITION.
AND THE O OTHER EFFECT IS LIKE RANDY CAME ON AND HE INHERITED A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT THE BUDGET WAS COMING UP FOR AND NOTHING TO CHANGE.
SO A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND, AND YOU GET TO INHERIT SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT HAVE HAD ANY VOICE IN.
BUT, UM, COMING ON RIGHT AFTER COUNCIL IS LITERALLY A WASTE OF ME BEING THERE.
I I JUST, UH, FELT SO UNINFORMED, INEFFECTIVE.
SO I I I'M IN FAVOR OF HAVING IT NOW.
I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP FOR CON CONVERSATION.
I LIKE THIS FOR PEOPLE WATCHING THIS AT HOME AND THINKING ABOUT BEING ON COUNCIL OR ON ONE DAY, I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THEM TO TRY TO GET INVOLVED IN PROCESSES LIKE THIS.
IF ONLY SITTING IN THE ROOM BECAUSE THERE IS A DIFFERENT FEEL AND YOU GET MORE OUT OF BEING IN THE ROOM THAN YOU DO WATCHING ON YOUR COMPUTER.
AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE THEM WATCHING AT HOME.
AND IT'S, IT'S, I I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THAT STUFF.
AND, AND THIS, AND DOING IT, YOU KNOW, OFFSITE LIKE THIS.
AND, AND IT'S A, IT'S A MORE COMFORTABLE CONVERSATION AND IT IS JUST DISCUSSION.