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[1. Call Meeting to Order]

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I NOW CALL A REGULAR MEETING OF THE ADDISON PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ORDER TODAY, TUESDAY, DECEMBER 16TH, 2025 AT THE ADDISON CONFERENCE CENTER.

WE HAVE A QUORUM OF SEVEN OF THE SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT, UM, AS WE DO FOR ALL MEETINGS.

LET'S PLEASE STAND AND SAY THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL.

SORRY.

GOT A FOOT CAUGHT.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SERVES IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO THE TOWN EVALUATING, PLANNING, ZONING, AND SUBDIVISION PROPOSALS, AND PRESENTING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON MATTERS OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT POLICY.

THE COMMISSION'S PRIMARY OBJECTIVES TO ENSURE RESPONSIBLE LAND AND USE AND DEVELOPMENT BY ADHERING TO ESTABLISHED PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND OVERSEEING THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

THESE EFFORTS ARE INTENDED TO UPHOLD THE SAFETY, WELFARE, AND OVERALL WELLBEING OF RESIDENTS, THE WORKFORCE AND VISITORS.

AT THIS TIME, IF DURING THE MEETING, IF ANYONE CHOOSES TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC PORTION, PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.

UH, COME TO THE PODIUM.

STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS.

WE'LL GO OVER THAT AGAIN WHEN IT'S TIME.

UM, YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS RIGHT AT THIS POINT? RIGHT? OKAY.

YOU'LL BRING THAT TO ME.

OKAY.

[ Consent Agenda: All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the Planning and Zoning Commission and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]

UM, OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE CONSENT AGENDA IN WHICH THE CONSIDER ACTION ON THE MINUTES FOR THE OCTOBER 21ST, 2025 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE APPROVAL.

I SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ITEM IS APPROVED.

UM, LET'S SEE.

NEXT.

UM, YEAH, I WAS LOOKING FOR THE REGULAR AGENDA COMMENT.

IT WAS ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE.

OKAY.

NOW WE'RE

[2. Consider Action on a replat for the Addison Airport Industrial District, Block A, Lot 14R, for an office/hangar development on 1.57± acres located at northeast corner of the Wright Brothers Drive and Wiley Post Road intersection, addressed as 15500 Wright Brothers Drive. Case R2025-05/Addison Airport Industrial District.]

MOVING TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.

SO THE FIRST ITEM IS CONSIDER ACTION ON A REPL OF THE ADDISON AIRPORT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT BLOCK.

A LOT 14 R FOR A OFFICE SLASH HANGAR DEVELOPMENT ON ONE APPROXIMATE 1.57 ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF WRIGHT BROTHERS DRIVE AND WILEY POST ROAD INTERSECTION ADDRESSED AS 1 55 0 0.

WRIGHT BROTHERS DRIVE, CASE R 2025 DASH ZERO FIVE.

ADDISON AIRPORT, INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

AND THEN GUEST, CORY IS GONNA GIVE US THE REPORT.

YES, DEFINITELY.

UH, COREY BECK, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UM, SO THE APPLICANT HAS ACTUALLY ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE, UM, OR AN EXTENSION FOR 30 DAYS, BASICALLY TO OUR NEXT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE REPL.

OKAY.

'CAUSE IT WAS ON THE, WE STILL HAVE TO APPROVE THAT.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE, UH, POSTPONEMENT? A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EXTENSION.

DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

GRANTED.

NEXT

[3. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request for a Special Use Permit for property located at 4460 Belt Line Road, that is currently zoned Commercial Limited (CL) for a restaurant to allow late-night hours of operation and on-site consumption of hookah. Case 1937-SUP/4460 Belt Line Road (Prestige Ambiance Hookah Lounge).]

ITEM, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A PROPERLY LOCATED AT 44 60 BELTLINE ROAD.

THIS IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL LIMITED FOR A RESTAURANT TO ALLOW LATE NIGHT HOURS OF OPERATIONS AND ONSITE CONSUMPTIONS OF HOKA CASE, 1937 DASH SUP 44 60 BELTLINE ROAD, PRESTIGE AMBIENCE, HOKA LOUNGE, AND COREY AGAIN? YES.

UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, AGAIN, COREY BECK'S, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

I HAVE FOR BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, A SPECIAL USE, UH, REQUEST FOR, UM, LATE NIGHT HOURS OF OPERATION AND ONSITE CONSUMPTION OF HOOKAH FOR A RESTAURANT.

THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN BLACK, THE BIG, BOLD BLACK LINES, UM, WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED LOCAL RETAIL IN, UH, 1986.

IN 91, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT WAS APPROVED FOR A RESTAURANT WITH A CELL OF ALCOHOL BEVERAGES FOR ONSITE CONSUMPTION, UH, AROUND 20 15, 20 16 SOMETIME.

UM, SO MID 2010S, UM, THE PROPERTY DID BECOME VACANT.

UH, THERE WERE, I BELIEVE IT WAS LIKE THREE OR FOUR OTHER RESTAURANTS IN THE SITE BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL SUP AND WHEN THE SITE BECAME VACANT.

THEN IN 2025 WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED TO COMMERCIAL LIMITED, UM, WHICH, UH, WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE LOCAL RETAIL ZONING.

NOW, BEFORE YOU TODAY, WE HAVE THAT, UH, PROPOSED SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE RESTAURANT WITH LATE NIGHT HOURS AND ONSITE CONSUMPTION OF HOOKAH.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BIG

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BLOW UP OF THE SITE , UM, 'CAUSE IT IS A, A RATHER RECTANGULAR SITE, SO IT DOES NOT FIT IN A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION VERY WELL AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT, UM, TOPICS FOR CONSIDERATION.

UM, SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS, UH, SAW IT ALL.

UM, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS, UM, UH, PLAN NORTH.

UM, SO THAT IS GONNA BE WHERE BELTLINE IS LOCATED.

UM, SO APOLOGIES FOR THE ORIENTATION OF THE GRAPHICS.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A WEIRD SITE FOR A PRESENTATION.

SO, VERY FIRST THING, UH, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE FLOOR PLAN.

SO THE PROPOSAL IS FOR ROUGHLY 87, UM, 8,800 SQUARE FEET, WHICH INCLUDES THE MAIN BUILDING ITSELF WITH THE DINING AREA.

IT DOES HAVE AN OUTDOOR PATIO, WHICH IS OUTLINED IN BLUE, AND THEN A ROOFTOP BAR, WHICH IS THE FLOOR PLAN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, UH, BASED OFF OF THE EXISTING AREA OF THE BUILDING.

UM, WE ARE ADDING QUITE A BIT SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THE BUILDING AND USABLE DINING SQUARE FOOTAGE ITSELF.

UM, WE'RE ADDING ALMOST, UH, 1700 SQUARE FEET TO THIS, UM, PRO, THIS EXISTING SITE FOR PROPOSED SEATING.

UM, OVERALL WE HAVE ROUGHLY 280 SEATS.

THE ORIGINAL SUP FROM 1991 WAS APPROVED AT 199, SO THAT IS AN INCREASE OF 81 SEATS.

UM, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING AT TABLE CONFIGURATION, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE BODIES THAT COULD BE IN THIS SPACE ALL AT ONCE FOR PATRONS.

UM, SO WE DO HAVE THAT, UH, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.

UH, ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE IS NO PROPOSED FIXED SEATING IN THE MIDDLE PORTION OF THE BUILDING.

UM, SO ALL OF THE AREAS OUTLINED IN BLUE ON THE GRAPHIC ON THE RIGHT ARE THE ONLY AREAS WHERE FIXED SEATING WOULD BE, MEANING THAT THERE'S A BOOTH OR SOME SITE TYPE OF, UM, SEAT THAT IS GOING TO BE NEXT TO THE WALL.

UM, AND THEN A TABLE WITH ADDITIONAL CHAIRS.

UH, THE REST OF IT IS ALL TABLE, UH, AND CHAIRS THAT CAN BE MOVED AROUND THE RESTAURANT.

AND THEN THE ROOFTOP BAR ACTUALLY HAS, UH, IS PROPOSED FOR 62 INDIVIDUALS.

UM, AND AGAIN, THERE'S NO PROPOSED, UH, FIXED SEATING ON TOP EXCEPT FOR THE AREA IN THE BLUE THAT IS OUTLINED.

AND THAT'S ROUGHLY 10 SEATS.

THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE PROPOSED FOR SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, 10:30 AM TO MIDNIGHT, AND FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, 10:30 AM TO 2:00 AM.

UM, THESE ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH OTHER RESTAURANTS THAT ARE WITHIN A HUNDRED OR A THOUSAND, UH, FOOT BUFFER OF THE AREA OF THOSE PROPERTIES OR OF THOSE RESTAURANTS.

THERE ARE 13 IN TOTAL WITH, UM, TWO OF THOSE THAT HAVE HOURS OF OPERATION AFTER, UH, 11:00 PM.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, YOU GUYS DID RECEIVE COMMENTS, UM, FROM A CITIZEN ABOUT OTHER HOOKAH IN THE AREA AND, UM, IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON.

AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION THAT ARE ON THERE, UM, I BELIEVE ARE CONSISTENT, UM, WITH, UH, WITH WHAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE POSTED.

SO IT IS CORRECT.

UM, AND THE, THE HOURS HERE WOULD BE MOSTLY IN LINE WITH THE OTHER HOURS OF HOOKAH.

HOWEVER, IT'S NOT IN LINE OR NOT CONSISTENT WITH, UH, OTHER RESTAURANTS IN THE AREA.

THE SITE DOES COMPLY WITH PARKING.

THEY ARE REQUIRED 88 PARKING SPACES.

THEY ARE PROVIDING 88 PARKING SPACES.

AND THE EXTERIOR, UM, FACADE, UM, I'VE ONLY PROVIDED AN EXAMPLE FOR THE NORTH FACADE.

IT'S THE ONE THAT HAS THE BIGGEST SIGN, THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO IT.

UM, IT IS GOING FROM, UM, A BRICK AND I'LL SAY STUCCO OF SOME SORTS, UM, RED AND YELLOW , UM, UH, FACADE, UM, TO A VERY MODERN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, UM, WITH, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S GRAY, BLACK, UM, UH, UM, PAINTING AND, UH, METAL, UM, METAL MATERIALS.

AND I'VE GOT SOME EXAMPLES.

THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE RELATED TO OPEN SPACE AND LANDSCAPING.

UM, THESE ARE THE TWO ITEMS THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH FOR OUR CURRENT CODE.

UM, WITH THE PROPOSAL OF THE ROOFTOP BAR, THIS INCREASES THE PARKING DEMAND.

UM, WITH HAVING A,

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AN INCREASED PARKING DEMAND, THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO MEET THE OVERALL SITE, UM, REQUIRED OPEN SPACE PERCENTAGE OF 20%.

UM, THE, THE APPLICANT HAS CHOSEN TO MAINTAIN PARKING OVER, UM, MEETING THE LANDSCAPING, UH, REQUIREMENTS.

AND IT CAN BE CONSIDERED SELF-IMPOSED CONSTRAINTS BECAUSE OF ADDING THE ROOFTOP BAR, WHICH IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.

UM, IT INCREASE, LIKE I SAID, INCREASES THE DEMAND FOR PARKING, WHICH THEN, UH, DECREASES THEIR ABILITY TO MEET OTHER REQUIREMENTS.

THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING DOES INCREASE OPEN SPACE BY 0.5%, SO IT DOES BRING IT CLOSER INTO COMPLIANCE.

UM, HOWEVER, IT IS STILL SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER, UM, UNDER THE REQUIREMENT OF 20%.

ADDITIONALLY, ONE OTHER PARKING OR LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT, UM, THAT THE SITE DOES NOT COMPLY WITH IS THE PARKING LOT SCREENING.

UM, THIS SECTION IN BLUE IS THE ONLY SECTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE SCREENING IS NOT BEING MET.

UM, THE UDC DOES REQUIRE A 10 FOOT WIDE LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT HAS SHRUBS EVENLY SPACED, AND ONE TREE, ONE SHADE TREE.

LET ME, UM, SPECIFY THAT ONE SHADE TREE APPROXIMATELY EVERY 35 FEET, UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DO THE, THE SHRUBS AND THOSE ARE CONSISTENT.

UM, WITH THE ORDINANCE, HOWEVER, BECAUSE THERE ARE OVERHEAD LINES, UM, THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF HAVING A SHADE TREE AND HAVE PROPOSED TO DO AN ORNAMENTAL TREE, UM, EVERY 35 FEET.

UM, STAFF BELIEVES THAT THAT IS IN THE INTENT OF THE, UM, ORDINANCE.

UM, HOWEVER, IT JUST, IT DOESN'T MEET THE, OF THE ACTUAL REQUIREMENT.

SO JUST POINTING IT OUT FOR TREE MITIGATION, THERE IS THE REMOVAL OF THREE TREES, WHICH IS 36 CALIBER INCHES.

UM, FOUR OF THOSE INCHES, UM, THAT WERE REMOVED, FOUR CALIBER INCHES OF THE REMOVED TREES, UM, WILL NEED TO BE MITIGATED BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT REPLACED ON SITE WITH OTHER TREES.

UM, SO THERE WILL BE A TREE MITIGATION FEE OF 192 PER INCHES, $192 PER CALIBER INCH, WHICH ROUGHLY EQUALS 768.

THEN, UH, WE DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SMOKING ORDINANCE.

UM, AND WE DO HAVE A SMOKING ORDINANCE THAT DOES GO, UM, THAT DOES APPLY TOWARDS THIS PROJECT.

UM, IF IT DOES SAY THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE SEPARATE AND, UM, SMOKING AND NONS SMOKE, SMOKING AREAS THAT THE NON-SMOKING AREA MUST BE SEPARATED BY A MINIMUM OF FOUR FEET OF CONTINUOUS FLOOR SPACE MUST BE VENTILATED.

UM, IT MUST BE, UH, APPROPRIATELY, UM, UH, DESIGNATED VIA SIGNS AND THERE MUST BE ASHTRAYS OR SOME OTHER SUITABLE CONTAINER FOR, UM, SMOKING.

UM, USUALLY CIGARETTES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, UH, NEAR THE AREA THAT IS NON-SMOKING, UM, WHICH THAT PORTION MAY NOT NECESSARILY APPLY FOR HOOKAH.

HOWEVER, UM, FOR, UH, THE DINING AREAS, THEY DO HAVE TO HAVE POLICIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR STAFF WHEN NECESSARY UPON INSPECTION.

AS WELL AS, UM, THEY HAVE AN AREA, A SIGNAGE AT THE ENTRANCE SAYING THAT THERE IS A NON-SMOKING SECTION IF, UM, PREFERRED AND AREAS THAT ARE, UH, THAT THE PUBLIC STILL HAS ACCESS TO, AS AN EXAMPLE, THE RESTROOMS, UM, SHALL BE DESIGNATED AS NON-SMOKING AREAS.

UM, WE DID NOTICE THE PUBLIC WITHIN 200 FEET.

WE DID RECEIVE ONE, UM, UH, ONE CITIZEN FEEDBACK, AND WE DID PROVIDE THAT TO YOU AT THE TIME OF MAKING THIS PRESENTATION.

WE HAD NOT RECEIVED THAT, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT IN HERE AT THIS MOMENT.

STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL AND DETERMINED THAT, UM, IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH TOWN POLICIES AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

AND THESE ARE THE TWO AREAS THAT IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH FOR A MINIMUM LANDSCAPED AREA AND PERIMETER PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING.

AND SHOULD, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

THERE ARE NINE OF THEM, SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.

.

UM, THE ESTABLISHMENT SHALL OPERATE AS A RESTAURANT, WHICH IS A BUSINESS PRIMARILY ENGAGES IN THE PREPARATION OF ON-PREMISE SALE OF FOOD AND BEVERAGE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC RESTAURANT.

KITCHEN AND DINING SERVICE SHALL REMAIN OPERATIONAL AVAILABLE DURING ALL HOURS OF OPERATION.

NO SEPARATE RENTAL AT THE FACILITY IN WHOLE, OR IN PART FOR PRIVATE PARTIES OR RECEPTIONS, BANQUETS, OR TICKETED EVENTS SHALL OCCUR.

COVERAGE CHARGE, COVER CHARGES, TICKET SALES AND ADMISSION FEES FOR ENTRY OR ATTENDANCE SHALL BE

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PROHIBITED UNLESS SPECIFICALLY APPROVED THROUGH THE TOWN.

THROUGH A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT, DJS AND SCORES AND STAGE PERFORMANCES SHALL BE PROHIBITED.

THE ESTABLISHMENT SHALL MAINTAIN A FIXED SEATING LAYOUT CONSISTENT WITH AN APPROVED FLOOR PLAN SHOWING A MINIMUM OF 60% OF THE AREA DEDICATED TO DINING INCLUSIVE, OF INCLUSIVE OF OUTDOOR DINING.

AND NO PORTION OF THE PREMISE SHALL BE USED PRIMARILY AS AN ASSEMBLY AREA OR FOR OPEN FLOOR SPACE.

THE ESTABLISHMENT SHALL NOT OPERATE EARLY ON THAN 10:00 AM AND SHALL CLOSE NO LATER THAN MIDNIGHT DAILY, UH, SUNDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.

BYOB BRING YOUR OWN BEVERAGE SERVICES SHALL BE PROHIBITED.

THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT SHALL BE LIMITED TO THESE, THIS SPECIFIC OPERATOR AND SHALL NOT TRANSFER TO FUTURE TENANTS OR OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.

AND LASTLY, THERE SHALL BE NO AMPLIFIED NOISE, INCLUDING SPEAKERS, INSTRUMENTS, AND OTHER AMPLIFYING SOUND DEVICES USED FOR THE GROUND FLOOR PATIO AREA OR ROOFTOP PATIO AREA TO GENERATE AUDIBLE NOISE BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE PAST 11:00 PM AND I AM OPEN FOR, UM, QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

GO AHEAD.

UM, QUICK QUESTION.

YOU SAID THAT THE OCCUPANCY WAS BASED UPON, UM, UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY FIT.

HOW, WHAT WAS THAT CALCULATION BASED ON, PLEASE? THE OPEN AREA SEATING AREA? HOW DID YOU CALCULATE THE OCCUPANCY? UH, STAFF DID NOT CALCULATE THE OCCUPANCY.

WE, UM, MERELY COUNTED WHAT WAS PROVIDED FOR THE SEATING, THE OCCUPANCY, UM, WOULD BE A PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT.

YEAH, SO, UM, FORMAL, UH, LESLIE AND I HAVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

UM, THE OCCUPANCY, UH, LOAD FOR THE BUILDING IS BASED UPON, UM, BUILDING AND FIRE CODE.

AND IF I RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WITH, UM, AREA WITH SEATING IS ONE PER 15 SQUARE FEET, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WOULD USE WHAT WAS USED OR VALIDATED THAT YES, THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE USED TO DETERMINE THE OCCUPANT LOAD, THE POSTED OCCUPANT LOAD, UM, AS DETERMINED BY THE FIRE MARSHAL.

UM, THE COUNTS THAT CORY HAS PROVIDED IS MERELY THE, UM, SEATING CAPACITY OF THE PROPOSED RESTAURANT FURNISHINGS, WHICH IS BELOW THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

OKAY.

BUT OCCUPANT LOAD .

ALRIGHT.

THE, YOUR PARKING THEN WAS BASED UPON THE CALCULATED LOAD, UH, THE PARKING.

SO WE HAD, UM, YOUR TOTAL PARKING WAS BASED UPON THAT CALCULATED LOAD BY 15 SQUARE FEET.

NO, THE PARKING IS BASED UPON A RATIO OF ONE TO 101 PARKING SPACE PER 100 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA OF THE BUILDING.

YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.

YEAH, A QUICK ONE, COREY.

UM, SO THIS, THE, ONE OF THE ONES SAYS NO AMPLIFIED NOISE, SPEAKERS, INSTRUMENTS, ET CETERA, UH, OUTDOOR PATIO ROOFTOP.

COULD THEY HAVE MUSIC ON THE INSIDE THAT'S LIVE? UM, IS THAT JUST, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED HERE, BUT IS THERE, SO THE, THERE IS ONE CONDITION FOR, UM, DJ STANDS FORS AND STAGE PERFORMANCES SHALL BE PROHIBITED.

OH, EXCUSE ME.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

SO, UM, SO IF THERE WERE LIVE MUSIC THAT FELL UNDER ONE OF THOSE ITEMS, THEN THAT WOULD BE PROHIBITED EVEN ON THE INTERIOR.

UM, MUSIC WOULD BE ALLOWED.

OKAY.

UM, TYPE DEAL.

WE ARE NOT FOOTLOOSE , UM, MUSIC WOULD BE ALLOWED.

UM, IT'S THE, UH, AFTER CERTAIN HOURS, UM, NOT BEING ABLE TO HEAR IT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

OH YEAH, GOOD POINT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARITY.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ADDED TO, UM, OTHER P UH, SUVS THAT WOULD HAVE LATE NIGHT HOURS AS WELL.

UM, NOT BEING ABLE TO HEAR THE LIVE, THE MUSIC, UM, WHETHER IT IS LIVE OR NOT, UM, PAST A CERTAIN TIME IS USUALLY 11:00 PM MAKES SENSE TO ME.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME SPEAK.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS MAG KOFF.

I'M WITH ROCK DESIGN ENGINEERS AND I REPRESENT THE, UH, CLIENT, THE OWNER OF THE, UH, BUSINESS WHO, WHO OWNS.

CAN YOU GIMME AN ADDRESS TO YOU, PLEASE? WHO OWNS THE BUILDING AND THE BUSINESS? HE'LL BE OPERATING THE BUSINESS.

CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORDS PLEASE? UH, SIX 50 EAST STRIP, SUNNYVALE, TEXAS 7 5 1 8 2.

THANK YOU.

UH, COREY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

CAN I GET YOU TO PUT UP THE SITE PLAN, IF YOU WOULD? YEAH.

THANK

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YOU VERY MUCH.

I THINK, UH, COREY IS CORRECT ON THE FACT THAT WE WORKED REALLY HARD.

THIS IS AN OLD BUILDING, AS YOU ALL KNOW, OLD SITE, AND IT HAD A LOT OF CHALLENGES.

SO WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD WITH THE CITY TO TRY TO MEET AND UPGRADE THAT PROPERTY TO THE CURRENT CODE.

AND, UH, UM, IF YOU NOTICED, WE'VE INCREASED THE RADIUSES FOR THE FIRE LANE.

WE'VE ADDED A FIRE LANE THAT GOES INSIDE THE BUILDING.

WE'RE ALSO ADDED A WATER LINE AND A FIRE HYDRANT ON SITE, AS WELL AS CONNECTING THE WATER LINE FROM BIT LINE TO THE WATER LINE THAT RUNS IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, UH, WITH THE, UH, UH, HOTEL.

SO WE'RE REALLY THE, UH, TRYING TO UPGRADE THAT PROPERTY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

AND, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, WORKED REALLY HARD WITH THE CITY TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.

AND, UH, WE ARE, THE CLIENT IS GONNA END UP SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY TO GET THAT UPGRADED TO THAT POSITION.

UH, JUST WANTED DENOTE THAT AS FAR AS LANDSCAPING, WE ARE DOING A BETTER THAN WHAT'S EXISTING, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET THE 20% UNFORTUNATELY.

BUT, UH, WE'RE HOPING THAT ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AND ALL THE UPGRADES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, THE PROPERTY CAN HELP OUT WITH THAT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S AS FAR AS THE, UH, LANDSCAPING, I THINK ONE OF THE MO OTHER POINTS THAT SHE MENTIONED WAS THE, UH, INSIDE AND THE CLOSURE BETWEEN SMOKING AND NON-SMOKING.

UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP DURING THE REVIEW, BUT, UH, WE CERTAINLY ARE OPEN TO ACCOMMODATE THAT IF, IF YOU, IF YOU INTEND TO PUT A CONDITION OR IF, IF IT'S ACTUALLY AN ORDINANCE.

WE CERTAINLY, WHEN WE SUBMIT OUR PLANS, WE CERTAINLY CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT.

WE CERTAINLY CAN DESIGNATE AN AREA THAT ACCESSES THE BATHROOM THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SMOKING, THAT, THAT, THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF AS WELL ON THE CONDITIONS.

UM, THAT, UH, COREY WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, WE ARE OKAY WITH THE MAJORITY OF THESE CONDITIONS.

THE ONLY ONES THAT WE REALLY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IS THE OPERATION HOURS.

TYPICALLY OLD BUSINESSES OPEN TILL TWO.

THIS IS GONNA BE A RESTAURANT THAT'S GONNA SERVE FOOD TILL TWO ON FRIDAY AND ACTUALLY HAVE A HOOKUP.

AND AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, I MEAN, YOUNG KIDS, THEY LIKE TO BE OUT.

MY DAUGHTER WOULD LIKE TO BE OUT TILL TWO ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS TO SHUT DOWN THE BUSINESS AT 12.

IT'S A LITTLE TOO EARLY.

SHE LIKED TO BE OUT THERE WITH THEIR FRIENDS MINGLING TILL TWO.

SO WE ASK THAT THAT, UH, TWO HOURS WILL ACTUALLY MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN IT COMES TO BUSINESS AND WE'LL BRING IN FUNDS.

AND, UM, AS YOU'RE AWARE THAT THAT BUSINESS IN THAT LOCATION HAS NOT BEEN REALLY THE GREATEST THING.

SO WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT Y'ALL HELP US OUT IN MAKING SURE THAT, UH, THAT WE ARE GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL IN OPERATING THAT BUSINESS AND, AND MAKING IT A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, BRING IN FUNDS FOR THE OWNER AS WELL AS FOR THE CITY.

THE OTHER ITEM THAT WE'RE KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE SUV BEING TIED TO, UH, MR. MIKE.

UH, WE FEEL LIKE THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A STRETCH.

AND THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID SOMETHING HAPPENS TO MIKE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY IT'S TIED TO THE OPERATION, YOU KNOW, THE CORPORATION THAT RUNS THE BUSINESS AND SOMETHING HAPPENS TO MIKE FOR WHATEVER REASON, HIS WIFE, HIS SON WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO RUN THE BUSINESS.

HOW WOULD THAT WORK? WILL WILL THAT CO ENDS BECAUSE MIKE IS NOT AROUND OR HAD SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED TO HIM.

I THINK THAT'S KIND OF UNREASONABLE.

WE, WE, WE ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER THAT AND, AND DESIGNATE THAT TO THE BUSINESS RATHER THAN HIM SPECIFICALLY AS A PERSON.

THE, UH, THIRD ITEM THAT WE'D LIKE TO COVER IS THE, YOU KNOW, UP AND DOWN BELTLINE.

THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESSES AND ONE OF THE BUSINESSES IS OSH AND MY WIFE AND I AND MY DAUGHTER, WE GO THERE ALL THE TIME AND THEY DO HAVE OCCASIONALLY A DJ THAT PLAYS INSIDE.

AND OF COURSE, AS FAR AS NOISE, I THINK THE CITY'S ALREADY GOT A, AN ORDINANCE THAT COVERS NOISE AND HOW MANY BITES AND ALL OF THAT.

SO I THINK DEFINITELY WE WE'RE GONNA COMPLY WITH THESE RULES AND ORDINANCES AS FAR AS SOUND, BUT THE DJ AND THE PROMOTIONAL THING IN THE BUSINESS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

SO WE ASK THAT, UH, YOU TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL.

ANY QUESTIONS I HAVE? YEAH, GO AHEAD.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

YES, SIR.

UM, SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS FLOOR PLAN HERE.

SO

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IS THE INTENT LIKE A LOT OF TABLES IN ON THE MAIN FLOOR THERE? UM, I, WHEN, IF I CAME IN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ORDER FOOD, YOU CAN ORDER HOOKAH.

WILL YOU GUYS HAVE A A, UH, LIQUOR LICENSE TOO? NO, ACTUALLY, UH, WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF GETTING A LIQUOR LICENSE AND ONE OF, UH, CODY'S CONDITIONS WAS, UH, NO, BYOB, WHICH WE HAVE NO ISSUES WITH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

BUT SO ANY, IF I GO INSIDE, I CAN, THAT'S JUST LIKE ON THE MENU.

I CAN ORDER IT AND YOU GUYS BRING IT TO, TO THE TABLE ABSOLUTELY.

IN ANY OF THESE TABLES.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

HE, I THINK MIKE IS GONNA TALK TO YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE OPERATION AND, AND THE MENU.

OKAY.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, SHE KAB AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ALL KINDS OF STUFF SHOW MY SANDWICHES AND HOMOS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT'S GONNA BE, AND THEN A, A NICE JUICE BAR THAT'S GONNA SERVE ALL KINDS OF MIXES, YOU KNOW, HEALTHY MIXES THAT KIDS LOVE.

UH, IT IS GONNA BE A NICE HEALTHY RESTAURANT WITH HOOKAH AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE INTENTIONS OF THE OPERATION.

ALL GOOD TIME OR, OKAY.

COOL.

UM, SO THESE QUESTIONS, I MEAN, THANK YOU FOR, FOR COMING TONIGHT AND, AND TALKING WITH US.

THE QUESTIONS I HAVE MIGHT BE MORE SO FOR, FOR STAFF HERE.

SO FIRST THING DJ'S DANCE FLOOR IS I COULD SEE THE DESIRE FOR HAVING ONE OCCASIONALLY.

CAN THEY GET A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT FOR THAT? AS ONEROUS AS IT MIGHT BE TO DO IT EVERY TIME? UH, WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS, RYBACK, SORRY, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UM, THERE ARE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS THAT, UM, CAN AND CANNOT TRIGGER A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT.

AND THERE IS A CERTAIN NUMBER THAT YOU, YOU ARE ALLOWED A YEAR.

HMM.

UM, I CAN PULL THAT INFORMATION AND, UH, GRAB THAT REALLY FAST DURING THIS CONVERSATION.

OH, SURE.

YEAH.

NO, I CAN WAIT A FEW MINUTES ON THAT.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN I'LL PROVIDE, SORRY TYLER, ONE MORE QUICK CLARIFICATION.

AS THE CONDITIONS CURRENTLY ARE DRAFTED, IT SAYS IT'S PROHIBITED.

SO, UM, IF JUST ONE CLARIFICATION THAT IF THAT WERE TO BE, UM, THE DESIRE OF THE COMMISSION, THEN UH, WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT CONDITION BE CHANGED TO ONLY ALLOWED THROUGH APPROVAL OF A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT IN LIEU OF THE PROHIBITION.

OH YEAH.

IF THAT WAS THE CASE, I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN THE SUP RELATED TO THE SPECIFIC OPERATOR, CAN THE OPERATOR BE UNDER SOME LEGAL ENTITY THAT WOULD ALLOW, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THE PHYSICAL MAN TO HAVE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, LEGAL RIGHT TO THE, THE, THE RESTAURANT AND THAT WAY IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH ONE PERSON, THE HOLDING ENTITY CAN, CAN STILL MAINTAIN THAT SUP? YEAH, IT WOULD, I THINK THE CONCERN AND SPEAK UP IF I'M WRONG, IS, IS THAT HE COULD SELL THAT BUSINESS AND IT WOULD GO WITH THE NEXT PERSON.

OH, I SEE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK THEY WERE TRYING TO PROHIBIT.

OKAY.

SO, UH, SO IT'S, IT'S, HE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO NAVIGATE SOME PRETTY CHOPPY WATERS TO, TO KIND OF BALANCE THAT OUT.

AND, AND SO I GUESS A FOLLOWING QUESTION IS THAT, IS THAT STANDARD FOR HOOKAH LOUNGES HERE TO HAVE A SUP AT LEAST THESE DAYS? I KNOW WE HAVE SOME OLD, UM, PERMITS THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE WORK SESSION THESE DAYS IS A STANDARD FOR THE OPERATOR ONLY? UM, THIS IS THE FIRST HOOKAH, UM, APPLICATION WE'VE HAD SINCE THE NEW, UH, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE WAS ADOPTED.

UM, SO, UH, SO I CAN SAY IT'S, IT'S NOT STANDARD, UM, 'CAUSE IT'S THE VERY FIRST ONE.

UM, HOWEVER, UH, I WANNA ADDRESS THE, UH, GOING WITH A CORPORATION AS THE ENTITY INSTEAD OF A A SPECIFIC PERSON.

UM, THE, UM, THE, THE INTENT IS THAT IT WOULD GO WITH THE LAND, UM, PROPERTY OWNER.

UM, SO IF THE PROPERTY OWNER IS THE LLC THAT, UM, MS. UH, MR. MIKE EZ HAS CREATED, THEN UH, THAT IS THE ENTITY THAT, UH, WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SUP AND THE OWNERSHIP AND THE OPERATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, AND IF HE WERE TO SELL THE PROPERTY, UM, THEN THE NEW OWNER WOULD HAVE TO COME IN IF THEY ARE ALSO WANTING TO DO A HOOKAH MM-HMM .

HE WOULD HAVE TO COME IN AND SEEK THE SAME APPROVAL, UM, FOR A HOOKAH ESTABLISHMENT TO CONTINUE AT THAT LOCATION.

OKAY.

UM, NOW SHOULD, UM, SHOULD SOMEONE PASS AWAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT WOULD STILL BE WITH THAT CORPORATION, THAT LLC, UM, AND IF THERE IS A NEW PRESIDENT OF THAT LLC, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.

THE LSC IS STILL THERE.

OKAY.

UM, SO GOING WITH A SPECIFIC PERSON, NOT, NOT NECESSARILY THE INTENT, UM, BUT GOING WITH THAT ENTITY OR CORPORATION.

OKAY.

WITH THAT EXPLANATION THEN, I AGREE.

UM, AND THEN SO FOR THE, THE OPERATOR, IF THEY GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING, I, I, I DIDN'T BE INTERESTED ON THEIR COMMENTS ON THE OPERATING HOURS, JUST SPECIFICALLY IF THEY EXPECT PEAK DEMAND ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS.

I, I'M CERTAINLY SYMPATHETIC TO THAT, UH, KEEPING THAT AT TWO.

UM, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON HOW IT MIGHT AFFECT BUSINESS.

UM, BUT THAT'S ALL FOR ME FOR NOW.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? I JUST NEED

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CLARIFICATION SO I'M CONFUSED.

UM, AND MAYBE YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS, UM, THE INTENT OF THE TOWN IS THAT THIS DOESN'T PASS AND CAN'T, THAT THE SUP CANNOT BE SOLD AND TRANSFERRED WITH THE TRANSFER OF THE BUSINESS.

IS THAT ESSENTIALLY CORRECT? AND CAN WE DO THAT WITHIN THE CONSTRUCT OF AN LLC? COULDN'T THEY JUST SELL THE LLC AND TRANSFER IT? OR IS THERE SOME, IS THERE SOME MECHANISM WHERE WE COULD PROTECT HIS FAMILY AND THEIR ASSET, UH, BUT PRECLUDE IT? IS THERE ANOTHER ARRANGEMENT WE CAN THINK OF BUT PRECLUDE IT BEING PA PASSED TO? UH, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? I USED TO WORK FOR THE CITY OF IRVING.

I'M SORRY, CAN I SPEAK SOMETHING? CAN I SAY SOMETHING? OKAY.

I USED TO WORK FOR THE CITY OF IRVING.

I WORKED FOR THE CITY OF IRVING FOR 22 YEARS.

UM, I THINK ALL CITIES HAVE THIS RULE THAT IF A BUSINESS IS SOLD AND IT'S A DIFFERENT NAME, THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE CEO.

SO, UM, I MEAN, LINKING IT TO THE C IS, IS IS A REASONABLE THING.

SO ANYTIME I, I MEAN YOU CAN'T JUST SELL A BUSINESS AND SOMEBODY ELSE OPERATES WITH THE SAME NAME WITHOUT A NEW CO.

IF IT'S A NEW OWNER, THEN THEY STILL HAVE TO GET A NEW CO.

IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF, OF, OF BUILDING INSPECTIONS IN, IN THE APPLICATIONS WITH THE CEO.

SO JUST BECAUSE THEY BOUGHT THE COMPANY AND THE BUSINESS DOES NOT LET GIVE THEM PERMISSION TO OPERATE UNDER THAT CEO, THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR A NEW CEO WITH THEIR, BECAUSE THEY'RE A NEW ENTITY OR A NEW OWNER OF THAT, UH, CORPORATION.

SO I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR FOR THE RECORD AND THAT THE, OUR, OUR LEGAL COUNSEL AGREES WITH THAT INTERPRETATION AND THAT THAT IS INDEED CORRECT.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ACTUALLY, I JUST REMEMBERED, UM, SO THERE'S A TWO STORY THING.

WHY, WHY NO ELEVATOR.

OKAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, UM, WE HAVEN'T FORMALLY APPLIED THIS IS JUST AN SUP AND WE WILL HAVE TO SUBMIT FOR AN EDA, UH, PERMIT.

AND I THINK OUR ARCHITECT MADE MADE A NOTE OF THAT.

SO WE WILL SEEK AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY IF THEY WANT US, IF WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ELEVATOR FOR 88, THEN WE DEFINITELY WILL ADD THAT ON THERE.

GOTCHA.

AND, AND I THINK EVEN GOING BEYOND HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A ROOFTOP BAR, PROBABLY PRETTY GOOD VIEWS OF THE SOUTHERN END OF THE AIRPORT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE A SHAME IF PEOPLE WHO CAN'T WALK UPSTAIRS CAN'T BE A PART OF THAT.

UM, I DON'T THINK THAT AFFECTS THE SUP AND SPECIFICITY.

I JUST WOULD IF, IF WE CAN FIT IT IN, YOU KNOW, I'D BE HAPPIER.

YES, SIR.

WE'LL PASS THAT ALONG.

CHAIR.

I HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE TEMPORARY USE PERMITS.

YES.

UM, SO, UH, WE HAVE VERY SPECIFIC, UM, LIST OF WHAT CONSTITUTES AS A SPECIAL EVENT.

UM, AND, UH, LIVE MUSIC ON A NIGHTLY BASIS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY ONE OF THOSE, UM, IT'S MORE LIKE FESTIVALS AND, UM, UH, SORRY, LET ME GET THE WORD.

UM, CONCERTS, CARNIVALS, TRAVELING, C CIRCUS, UH, FESTIVALS AND TEMPORARY WHOLESALE ACTIVITIES.

OKAY.

THOSE ARE THE VERY SPECIFIC ITEMS LISTED.

UM, ALSO, UH, YOU CAN HAVE NO MORE THAN A SIX TEMPORARY USE PERMITS IN A CALENDAR YEAR.

AND, UH, THEY'RE ONLY VALID FOR 14 DAYS.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

SO YEAH, THIS, THIS, THAT WOULDN'T MATCH THEM EITHER.

UM, OKAY.

YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARITY.

I'LL AWAIT FOR THE APPLICANT'S COMMENTS BEFORE I DISCUSS FURTHER.

THANK YOU.

UM, I MEAN, TYPICALLY ANY, ALL BUSINESSES OUT THERE NEED SOME KIND OF PROMOTION, A PIANO, SOMEBODY PLAYING A PIANO, SOMEBODY PLAYING A DJ AND LIMITING THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS FROM HAVING TO HAVE THAT PROMOTION, I THINK KINDA TIES HIS HAND TO BE TO SUCCESSFUL.

UH, HE, HE IS, HE IS BOUGHT THAT BUILDING, SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON THE BUILDING, WE'RE GONNA SPEND A LOT OF MONEY IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE ARE GOING TO HELP OUT THE CITY AND ACTUALLY LOOP THAT WATER LINE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK WOULD BE A BIG BENEFIT WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

THEY REALLY LIKED THAT, THEY WANTED THAT AND WE WORKED HARD FOR IT.

NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE'RE ABLE, WE HAD TO GO TO THE NEIGHBOR AND, AND TALK THEM INTO GIVE, UH, GIVEN AN EASEMENT FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THEIR PROPERTY AND TIE IT IN.

SO WE'RE WORKING EXTRA HARD TO TRY TO MEET ALL THESE ORDINANCES AND TRY TO GET THAT BUSINESS IN THERE.

AND WE CERTAINLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU GUYS SUPPORT US AND, AND NOT, YOU KNOW, TIE OUR HANDS SO TO SPEAK, TO, YOU KNOW, ON OPERATING THAT BUSINESS AND MAKING IT SUCCESSFUL.

'CAUSE WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION TO MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL, WHICH WILL BENEFIT THE US AND THE CITY AS WELL.

AND, AND I THINK IF YOU GUYS ARE FINISHED WITH THE QUESTIONS, MR. UH, EDWARDS WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIS OPERATION AND WHAT HE INTENDS TO DO WITH THAT BUILDING, IF THAT'S OKAY.

UH, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

AND YOU TURN IN THIS CARD JUST FOR CLARITY,

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THIS WOULD KEEP YOU TO THREE MINUTES AND NO INTERACTION.

SO IF YOU WANT A MORE DETAILED, I'D PROBABLY DO IT NOW BEFORE I OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO, AND THEN IF YOU DON'T WANNA DO IT, PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'LL IGNORE THAT.

OKAY.

SO HE HAS THREE MINUTES TO DO SO.

NOT, NOT, NOT AT THIS POINT.

NOW IT'S FREE GAME.

IT'S, IF WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARING, HE HAS THREE MINUTES.

SO, UM, PLEASE STATE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

MIKE EDWARDS.

5 0 4 5 ROYAL CREEK LANE, PLANO, TEXAS 7 5 0 9 3.

ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD WITH WHATEVER.

AND IF YOU WANNA MAKE A STATEMENT AND THEN I'LL OPEN UP FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

IF YOU ALLOW ME A FEW MINUTES BRIEFLY, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AGAIN.

MY NAME IS MIKE EDWARDS AND I'M A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER AND ALSO BUSINESS OPERATOR IN A RETAIL AND RESTAURANT BUSINESS ALL MY LIFE.

THAT'S WHAT I DO FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS.

AND, UH, BASICALLY THIS BUILDING I PURCHASED ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

AND, UH, ACTUALLY I GREW UP IN EDISON AND THAT WAS MY DREAM TO STAY AND DO BUSINESS IN EDISON.

I JUST LOVE EDISON.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE ALL MY LIFE AND THIS BUILDING IN PARTICULAR, IT JUST, UH, REALLY I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT PURCHASE OF THAT BUILDING AND DEVELOPING THE BUILDING AND DO SOMETHING REALLY NICE WITH IT.

THIS BUILDING, IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, SITTING VACANT FOR GOD KNOWS LIKE MAYBE 10 YEARS AND I WOULD LOVE TO BRING A TOUCH TO THE BUILDING AND IMPROVE IT ON THE OUTSIDE AND ON THE INSIDE AS WELL.

AND UH, BASICALLY I HAVE A BUDGET OF ABOUT A MILLION DOLLAR TO INVEST IN THIS BUILDING.

SO WE'RE DOING A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL THINGS TO IT.

AND ESPECIALLY ON THE OUTSIDE, THE IMAGE OF THAT BUILDING.

I'M TRYING TO IMPROVE WITH STUCCO AND COMPOSITE PANELS AND REDO THE WHOLE BUILDING ON THE OUTSIDE.

JUST MAKE IT UP TO, YOU KNOW, DATE AND MODERN LOOK AND VISIBLE WHERE PEOPLE COULD ADMIRE THE OUTSIDE OF IT.

AND, UH, DEFINITELY THAT'S MY INTENTION TO MAKE IT LOOK BEAUTIFUL FROM THE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.

AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE A HUGE BUDGET BECAUSE I HAVE TO REDO EVERYTHING ON THE INSIDE.

THE PLACE IS COMPLETELY A SHELL.

THERE IS NOTHING INSIDE.

SO I HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING FROM SCRATCH.

AND WE'RE DOING BRAND NEW ELECTRIC PLUMBING AND DOING THE WHOLE NINE YARD ON THE INSIDE.

AND REALLY MY DREAM IS TO HAVE, UM, A FIVE STAR RESTAURANT AND A LOUNGE.

SO MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, I'M GONNA TREAT IT AS A RESTAURANT.

AND I'M BRINGING A CHEF, A REALLY TOP DOLLAR CHEF FROM MICHIGAN, I'M DOING A CONTRACT WITH TO CREATE A BEAUTIFUL MENU, GREAT FOOD FOR US.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY FOCUSING ON THE FOOD, MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY AS A RESTAURANT.

AND ALSO ON THE INSIDE I'M DOING A LOT OF DIFFERENT STUFF TO BE UNIQUE.

I'M TRYING TO BE UNIQUE AND NOT TO HAVE JUST A RESTAURANT.

THAT'S WHY THE HOURS I'M KIND OF HAVING DIFFICULTY WITH BECAUSE I'M NOT JUST DOING A RESTAURANT.

I'M BRINGING A VERY UNIQUE IDEA TO EDISON, WHICH IS DEFINITELY FOOD IS MY NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO IS THE ATMOSPHERE INSIDE.

IT'S GONNA BE A VERY UNIQUE ATMOSPHERE, SOMETHING LIKE NOBODY ELSE HAS, WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL CHANDELIERS, BEAUTIFUL, YOU KNOW, SITTING DOWN AREAS.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE BIG SCREEN TVS, THREE OR FOUR OCCASIONS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SPORTS AS WELL, LIKE A HUGE, HUGE AMOUNT OF SCREEN, YOU KNOW, BIG TVS.

AND UH, OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME SOFT MUSIC INSIDE.

WE ARE NOT INTENDING TO HAVE A CLUB OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS A RESTAURANT AND A BEAUTIFUL ATMOSPHERE FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY AND NOT JUST TO EAT.

ALSO TO SIT DOWN AND ENJOY THEIR TIME FOR HOURS.

SO THAT'S MY INTENTION.

AND BASICALLY, OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME MUSIC.

SOMETIMES WE MIGHT HAVE A KARAOKE NIGHT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY KIND OF REQUIRES SOME DJ EQUIPMENT AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE AN EVERYDAY OCCASION, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE PROMO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SPECIALS LIKE ONE DAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DJ NIGHT, ONE DAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, PIANO, UH, PLAYING PIANO INSIDE.

SO WE TRY TO KINDA HAVE EVERY NIGHT SOMETHING UNIQUE, SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE ORDINARY RESTAURANT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE KINDA ASK FOR THE HOURS TO CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT IN THE WEEKDAYS AND CLOSE AT TWO IN THE MORNING, IN THE WEEKEND.

NOTHING LIKE, THAT'S WHY ALSO I'M NOT SERVING ALCOHOL TO BEGIN WITH.

MAYBE IN THE FUTURE

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WE COULD APPLY FOR A LICENSE.

AND AS FAR AS B-Y-O-B-I CANNOT AGREE WITH THE EDISON STAFF.

I'M NOT INTERESTED IN BYOB BECAUSE IT CREATES A LOT OF PROBLEM.

A LOT OF PEOPLE CANNOT CONTROL HOW MUCH THEY DRINK.

AND I'M AGAINST IT A HUNDRED PERCENT.

I'M TRYING TO PROTECT MY CUSTOMERS AND MY CLIENTS AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE IN ANY, YOU KNOW, VEGETABLE FORM.

SO LIKE IN THE FUTURE, IF I DECIDE TO APPLY FOR A LIQUOR LICENSE, AT LEAST WE HAVE FULL CONTROL OF THE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION.

BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, WE ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE LIKE, WHAT I CALL IT EXOTIC JUICE BAR, WHICH IS SOMETHING, IT'S A TREND LIKE KNOW VERY HEALTHY JUICES, UH, TROPICAL JUICES WITH A DIFFERENT DESIGN AND UMBRELLAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, LIKE YOU SEE GOING TO THE BEACH AND STUFF.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO BE VERY UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS TO KINDA SUCCEED.

ESPECIALLY THE COMPETITION IS HUGE IN, IN EDISON AND I'M TRYING TO BE JUST A KIND OF SEPARATE BUSINESS, BUT WITH A UNIQUE IDEA TO PRESENT TO THE EDISON COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

UM, HAVING NEVER FREQUENTED A PLACE LIKE THIS, WHAT DO YOU DO IF SOMEBODY BRINGS IN SOME OF THEIR OWN STUFF TO SMOKE? I'M SORRY? WHAT DO YOU DO IF SOMEBODY BRINGS IN THEIR OWN SUBSTANCE TO SMOKE? SMOKE OR SMOKE? YEAH.

NO, IN GENERAL, ANY SUBSTANCE, RIGHT? YEAH.

GENERALLY NOT ALLOWED.

NOT ALLOWED.

HE'S TRYING TO, YEAH, I, I I JUST WANTED, SO YOU DON'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO BRING IT? WE HAVE BRING YOUR OWN, NO, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BRING YOUR OWN ALCOHOL, BUT YOU'RE ALSO NOT ALLOWED TO BRING YOUR OWN OTHER SUBSTANCES AS WELL, CORRECT? NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA ALLOW TO BRING ANY OF THAT.

OKAY.

NO.

AND ARE YOU CURRENTLY OPERATING ANY RESTAURANTS OR BUSINESSES ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE AREA? NO.

NO.

OKAY.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? GO AHEAD.

UH, NO, SORRY, NO QUESTIONS FOR THE, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT'S.

UH, THANK YOU GENTLEMEN, BUT I HAVE COMMENTS OR, OR THOUGHTS ON HOW WE, BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION, WELL, WE HAVE TO OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARING, OF COURSE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU GUYS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING.

I JUST NEED SOME CLARIFICATION HERE.

WHO FILLED OUT THIS FORM? WHICH ONE? UH, HE DID.

HE DID.

OKAY.

SO, 'CAUSE I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS THE SAME NAME THAT YOU GAVE ME A MINUTE AGO.

IT THAT THIS IS YOU, YOU DON'T NEED YOUR THREE MINUTES THEN.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON? ANYBODY ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY.

HAVING SEEN NONE, I NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THIS, UH, ITEM AND COMMISSIONERS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE TYLER WANTS TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING.

YEAH, JUST, JUST TWO THINGS HERE.

I THINK I TALKED ABOUT IT THE LAST TIME BEFORE WE KIND OF AGREED TO DELAY THIS.

UM, I, I'M OKAY WITH THE 2:00 AM UH, ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THEY'RE NOT SELLING ALCOHOL.

UM, AND WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF LIMITING OF THE NOISE.

UM, AND CONSIDERING THE LACK OF RESIDENTIAL AROUND, I'M OKAY WITH GIVING THAT A SHOT PERSONALLY.

UM, AND THEN THE, YEAH, I, I, I STARTING TO SEE THE ARGUMENT FOR SOFTENING THE ABSOLUTE PROHIBITION OF STAGE PERFORMANCES, ET CETERA.

CAN WE AMEND COREY, UH, OR LESLIE? CAN WE AMEND THAT IN ANY WAY TO SAY, OKAY, MAYBE NO DJS, BUT WE COULD HAVE A GUY PLAYING GUITAR? YES.

UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS CAN, WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR VOTING, UM, YOU CAN ADD, SUBTRACT, UH, ANY CONDITIONS THAT, UH, YOU WISH, UM, IF YOU'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, UM, FIRSTLY, YOU ALSO HAVE THE OPTION TO RECOMMEND DENIAL.

OKAY.

YEAH.

PERFECT.

UM, SO YEAH, I'LL LET THE DISCUSSION KIND OF KEEP GOING, BUT I WOULD BE, I AM PUSHING FOR, LET LET 'EM OPERATE TILL TWO AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, STAGE PERFORMANCES OKAY.

INSIDE BEFORE 11 OR, YOU KNOW, WITHIN OPERATING HOURS AS IT WERE.

UM, MUMBLE WILL PUT INTO THE TIMING THERE, BUT I SEE KIND OF THE, GIVEN HOW HIGHLY COMPETITIVE THIS AREA IS AND THE KIND OF FREEDOM THE OTHER HOOKAH LOUNGES HAVE HERE, I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAMSTRING HIM TOO MUCH.

UM, 'CAUSE I THINK HE IS TRYING TO MAKE, UH, SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE USEFUL THAN CURRENTLY EXISTS AT THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION AND OPEN TO TALK.

I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE, SOME HISTORY ON SOME OF THIS STUFF.

SO A LOT OF TIMES, IF EVERY PLACE IN THE AREA IS CLOSED DOWN, RIGHT, BUT THEY'RE OPEN TILL TWO O'CLOCK.

THE, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE NOISE COMING FROM THE ESTABLISHMENT, BUT IT'S IN THEIR PARKING LOT.

AND WE'VE HAD THIS LOTS OF TIMES BEFORE, SO THE PEOPLE ARE HANGING OUT IN THE PARKING LOT MAKING ALL KINDS OF NOISE.

AND THIS PLACE IS RIGHT NEXT TO TWO HOTELS, TWO HOTELS, SO, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT OWN

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THE HOTELS, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THEIR GUESTS ARE COMPLAINING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND WE'VE HAD THIS HAPPEN WHERE IT WAS REAL WELL ON MIDWAY, HAD SEVERAL ESTABLISHMENTS THERE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF PART OF THE THING I THINK WITH THIS, WITH THIS NOISE STUFF, YOU KNOW? YEAH, NO, THAT'S A FAIR POINT.

UM, I'LL GO AHEAD, CARRIE, I HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE, COREY.

UM, SORRY.

IT'S OKAY.

UM, DOES THIS SUP, UH, PRECLUDE, UH, FUTURE, UH, LIQUOR LICENSE? NO, IT WOULD NOT.

UM, SO IT ONLY IS PROPOSING THE, UH, PROHIBITATION OF BYOB.

SO, BUT HOWEVER, IF THEY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ONSITE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT TABC LICENSE AND PROCESS.

UM, THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE A, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT WITH THE NEW, UH, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES NOT REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, BUT THEY WOULD STILL GO THROUGH THE TABC LICENSE.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S INTERESTING.

YEAH, I, I'LL JUST MAKE MY, MY COMMENTS.

I'M WHAT LESLIE, ONCE LESLIE WANTS TO, UM, IF, IF THAT, SO AS COREY MENTIONED, IT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED, UM, THE SALE OF ALCOHOL DOES NOT TRIGGER A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, FOR ONSITE CONSUMPTION.

THAT WAS A CHANGE IN THE UDC, THE LATE NIGHT HOURS DOES.

UM, SO SINCE THIS BUSINESS WOULD POTENTIALLY BE OPEN ALREADY PASSED, UH, MIDNIGHT OR 2:00 AM DEPENDING UPON HOW IT'S APPROVED, UM, IF THE COMMISSION SO CHOOSES TO THEN IF AS LONG AS THOSE, THEY REMAIN IN THE OPERATIONAL STANDARDS THAT WERE APPROVED AS WELL AS THE HOURS THAT WERE APPROVED, THE ADDITION OF A-T-A-B-C LICENSE IN THE SALE OF ALCOHOL FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION ITSELF, AS IT STANDS, WOULD NOT TRIGGER AN SUP.

HOWEVER, I WILL STATE THAT IT COULD BE, ONCE AGAIN, IF THE COMMISSION SO CHOOSES TO ADD A CONDITION THAT SAYS THE SALE OF ALCOHOL FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION IS PROHIBITED, IF THAT WERE APPROVED, IT WOULD REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO THE SUP TO REMOVE THAT PROHIBITION AS AN EXAMPLE.

WHAT IS THE, WHAT ARE THE LATE NIGHT HOURS AND WHAT TECHNICALLY TRIGGERS THAT? I'M JUST CURIOUS.

IS IT MIDNIGHT AFTER MIDNIGHT OR WHAT, AFTER 11:00 PM SO THEY'D HAVE TO CLOSE AT 11 WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK TO GET A, ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO THE SUP FOR, TO GET A LIQUOR LICENSE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, I WAS GONNA, I, AND WHAT I'M LOOKING AT THIS AT THE, AT THIS FLOOR PLAN, AND I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT OUR, OUR, UM, REGULATIONS REGARDING SEPARATION OF SMOKING AND NON-SMOKING AREAS WITHIN A RESTAURANT.

AND THERE'S, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS, I DON'T SEE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A FOUR FOOT SEPARATION BETWEEN THOSE USES.

I I DON'T, I DON'T SEE A DESIGNATED, I MEAN, EVERYTHING'S ALLOWED TO HAVE SMOKING IN HERE, AND I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN WITH THIS.

AND YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DRAW SMOKE USUALLY MOST OF THESE, A LOT OF RESTAURANTS AND STUFF HAVE A SEPARATE HVAC SYSTEM.

THEY, THEY, THEY DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF SEPARATING SMOKING FROM NON-SMOKING IF THEY HAVE, IF THEY ALLOW SMOKING IN THE RESTAURANT OR A SEPARATE, COMPLETE SEPARATE ROOM.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY STRUGGLE WITH THIS THING.

I DON'T, I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THE RETURN AIR IS GONNA BE.

YOU CAN EASILY BE DRAWN IN A, YOU KNOW, FROM A SMOKING TABLE TO A NON-SMOKING SECTION DEPENDING ON HOW THE SYSTEM'S LAID OUT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S FILTERED THROUGH WATER, BUT I'VE ALSO HEARD THAT THE , THAT THE NICOTINE LEVEL OR WHATEVER IS QUITE A BIT HIGHER THAN SMOKING CIGARETTES.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, I'M, THAT'S MY CONCERN ABOUT, ABOUT HOW THIS IS PRESENTED, PRESENTED TONIGHT.

CAN I, CAN I ADDRESS THAT? IS THAT OKAY? CAN I? SURE.

GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, I'VE WORKED WITH A RESTAURANT IN RICHARDSON, AND RICHARDSON IS PRETTY TOUGH ABOUT HOKA AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

THEY'VE PUT A GLASS, UH, WALL PRETTY MUCH THAT SEPARATED BOTH.

I MEAN, THE, THE OPTIONS ARE THERE AND AS FAR AS VENTILATION, I MEAN, THEY USUALLY WILL HAVE, I'M SURE, UM, A SUCTION THING THAT WILL SUCK ALL THAT, UH, SMOKE OUT THAT, THAT, THAT'S CUSTOMARY IN ALL BUSINESSES.

UH, AS FAR AS AC THERE COULD BE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS OR THEY COULD, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THE INTAKE IS IN THE AREA THAT'S NOT NON-SMOKING, BUT WHATEVER THE ORDINANCE IS AND WHATEVER THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE CITY, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW IT.

WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF FOLLOWING THAT.

SO WHATEVER THE CITY REQUIRES, WE, WE'LL BE SUBMITTING THOSE PLANS AND THE

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CITY WILL GET TO REVIEW IT AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, PER THE CITY REQUIREMENTS AND PER THE CITY ORDINANCE.

AND, AND AS FAR AS NOISE, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE CITY HAS ORDINANCES FOR THE NOISE AND THE BITES ARE SET AND WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA FOLLOW 'EM.

AND WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT INTERESTED IN, IN HAVING TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN IN THE PARKING LOT OR ANYWHERE ELSE.

BUT BY THE WAY, THE HOTEL IS WAY IN THE BACK AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A FIRE, A FIRE LANE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND THE EDGE OF THAT PROPERTY.

I MEAN, THEY'RE PRETTY FAR FROM US, BUT WE, WE, WE CERTAINLY NOT GONNA ALLOW.

AND KNOWING THAT HOW THE CITY FEELS ABOUT THAT AND HOW THE COMMISSIONERS AND PROBABLY COUNCIL FEEL ABOUT THAT, WE'RE CERTAINLY GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, FOLLOW THE RULES AND, AND DO EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

WE, WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF FOLLOWING THE RULES, APPLYING THE ORDINANCES AND RUNNING THE BUSINESS TO THE STANDARD THAT THE CITY OF ADDISON WANTS.

ANY OTHER, GO AHEAD.

YEAH, NO, THE, THE NOISE THING WAS A GOOD POINT, TOM.

I WOULD BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, I, WE, WE DID REACH OUT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS IF THEY HAD SUBMITTED A CONCERN.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD DEFINITELY BE MORE INTO THIS, BUT I, I KIND OF AGREE.

I THINK IT'S OKAY.

UM, UNLESS, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU'VE BEEN AROUND LONGER THAN I HAVE.

SO HISTORICALLY, HAS IT BEEN A, AS A BIG ISSUE? YEAH, IT'S TYPICALLY BEEN THE, THE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE OPEN LATE AND BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE IS CLOSED, PEOPLE TEND TO CONGREGATE.

THEY DON'T EVEN GO INTO THE RESTAURANT OR THE, OR THE ESTABLISHMENT.

THEY'LL JUST HANG OUT IN THE PARKING LOT.

AND IT'S BEEN, WE'VE HAD, IT'S BEEN SEPARATED FROM NONCOMPLIANT USES BY MORE THAN A FIRE LANE.

AND IT'S STILL BEEN A PROBLEM.

I MEAN, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, PLAYING LOUD, YOU KNOW, I CAN, IN MY OFFICE BUILDING, I CAN HEAR SOMEBODY OUT IN MY SITTING IN A PARKING LOT PLAYING, SOUNDS LIKE THE MUSIC'S INSIDE MY SPACE, AND I'M WAY BACK IN THERE AND I CAN HEAR IT WHEN THEY HAVE SOMETHING BLARING AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.

SO THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN BECOMES AN ENFORCEMENT THING FOR THE TOWN.

NOW WE GOT, NOW WE'RE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO GO OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, RUN PEOPLE OFF.

AND IT WAS, IT WAS A, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A PRETTY BIG PROBLEM.

ALRIGHT, SO WHAT'D YOU GUYS THANK, THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU GUYS BE, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SOLUTIONS TO THAT.

I MEAN, WE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE VALE LATE PARKING ANYWAYS AND, AND, UH, IF HE'S GONNA BE OPEN LATE, HE'S PROBABLY GONNA HAVE A SECURITY GUARD OVER THERE.

AND WE CERTAINLY CAN MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.

WE CERTAINLY, WE DEFINITELY HEAR YOU AND WE UNDERSTAND THE COMMISSIONER'S CONCERNS AND, UH, WE'RE MAKING A BIG NOTE OUTTA THAT ONE.

AND WE'RE NOT GONNA TOLERATE PEOPLE JUST SITTING OUT THERE IN THE, IN THE PARKING LOT PLAYING MUSIC THAT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT.

THAT'S NOT THE PER THAT WE WANT OVER THERE, BUT ACTUALLY BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND, AND JUST THE PROP LAWN IS PROBABLY MORE THAN A THOUSAND FEET.

AND THEN THE PAST, THE PROP LAWN TO THE HOTEL, THERE'S A FIRE LANE BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BUILDINGS.

SO IT'S, IT'S QUITE A DISTANCE BETWEEN US AND, AND THEM.

BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE'RE GONNA ALLOW IT OR WE'RE GONNA TOLERATE IT.

IT'S, IT'S COMING THROUGH THE, TO US FROM YOU GUYS LOUD AND CLEAR, AND WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA MAKE A NOTE OF IT AND MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY'S GONNA BE OUT THERE IN THE PARKING LOT LINGERING AFTER THE HOURS OR AFTER THE CLOSURE AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE THEY DO IN SOUTH DALLAS IN, IN A CAR WASH WHERE THEY SIT DOWN THERE AND, AND THEY SELL STUFF.

AND THAT, THAT, THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT GONNA HAPPEN IN OUR, THAT THAT'S NOT THE, NOT THE KIND OF BUSINESS THAT WE ARE GONNA PROMOTE.

AND THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF BUSINESS THAT WE WILL ACCEPT, AND THAT'S NOT WHY, UH, WE'RE HERE.

WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GONNA BE A REPUTABLE BUSINESS, A BUSINESS THAT'S GONNA ACTUALLY BENEFIT US AS WELL AS THE CITY OF ADDISON.

AND YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE PROUD OF IT.

UH, YES SIR.

THANK YOU.

UM, KEN, DO WE HAVE THE POWERS, UH, AS P AND Z WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION TO SAY, HAVE CONTRACTED SECURITY? OKAY.

YOU KNOW, YES.

SO, OKAY.

I AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, ON THE LATE NIGHTS WHERE IT'S OPEN PAST THAT I WOULD BE OPEN TO ALLOWING THEM THOSE HOURS WITH CONTRACTED SECURITY.

I MEAN, IIII GET YOUR POINT.

I, I JUST THINK YOU GET TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND QUESTION WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING OUT A PROJECT THAT THERE ARE SO MANY RESTRICTIONS AND YOU JUST KEEP ADDING TO 'EM.

ARE WE PICKING THE RIGHT USE FOR THE BUILDING? OKAY.

SO LET'S JUST THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE.

AND I SAW JIMMY HAD A COMMENT DOWN HERE, YOUR TURN, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN PRETTY QUIET TONIGHT.

I I WAS JUST GONNA ADD TO TOM'S POINT, UH, I'VE BEEN PA PAST SOME OF THESE HOOKAH PLACES THAT ARE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, LATE AT NIGHT AND EARLY IN THE MORNING WHEN I'M, WHEN I'M EXERCISING IN THE MORNING.

UH, AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THERE'S OVERFLOW TO THE CARS AND THAT LOUD MUSIC IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T SERVE ALCOHOL BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T JUST HANG OUT TILL TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, MOST LIKELY IF THEY'RE NOT DRINKING.

NOT EVERYONE.

I KNOW THAT'S A GENERALIZATION,

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BUT, BUT AS SOMEONE MENTIONED, A LOT OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE TO STAY UP TILL TWO O'CLOCK DRINKING, JUST SAYING.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? GO AHEAD.

AS FAR AS THE HOURS GO, I REALLY JUST THINK CONSISTENCY ACROSS, UM, KIND OF THE AREA RIGHT THERE WOULD BE PROBABLY WHERE I'D GO WITH IT.

SO INSTEAD OF GOING UNTIL THE TWO O'CLOCK AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BROUGHT UP ALSO, TOM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, UM, THE ISSUES YOU BROUGHT UP WITH THE SMOKING.

UM, AND THE TOWN REQUIREMENT IT SOUNDS LIKE IS ONLY THE FOUR FEET, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS LIKE THE PARTITION AND THEN ALSO UH, HVAC AND MAYBE THOSE WOULD BE THINGS THAT WE WOULD ADD IN, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

WELL, SORRY, THE TOWN REQUIRE , THE TOWN REQUIREMENTS, THE FOUR FEET PLUS SEPARATION OF NOT ALLOWING CROSS VENTILATION FROM SMOKING TO NON-SMOKING.

OKAY.

I MEAN, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE IN THERE, RIGHT? UH, YEAH.

SO THE, THE FIRST PORTION IS THE MINIMUM OF FOUR FEET OF FLOOR SPACE BETWEEN WHERE IT IS, UM, NON-SMOKING AND SMOKING.

UM, THE SECOND PORTION OF THAT IS FOR VENTILATION TO SEPARATE THE TWO, NOT ALLOW SMOKE TO GO INTO THE NON-SMOKING AREA.

UM, SO THE VENTILATION COMPONENT WOULD COME WITH A BUILDING PERMIT AND WOULD BE REVIEWED AT THAT POINT, UH, NOT AS A PART OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

SO JUST HEADS UP ON THAT.

UM, UH, BUT AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, IF YOU GUYS FEEL THE NEED TO ADD, UM, A CONDITION ABOUT THE SEPARATION OF NON-SMOKING AND SMOKING, UM, AREAS, THEN UH, YOU CAN DO SO AS WELL.

OKAY.

AND, AND ONE OTHER COMMENT I HAVE ABOUT THIS IS, IS I, I HEARD A COMMENT ABOUT A MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET FROM WHAT I SEE, I DON'T SEE HOW THIS PROJECTS GETS DONE WITH THE MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET GUYS, THE EXTERIOR FACADE, UH, THE INSIDE THAT, I MEAN, THE BUILDING'S BEEN VACANT, I THINK IT'S PRETTY ROUGH ON THE INSIDE.

I I WOULD BE VERY, VERY SURPRISED THAT THEY COULD GET THAT DONE WITH A MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? UH, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S WHATEVER IT TAKES.

IT'S, I MEAN, THESE ARE THE PLANS AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AND THE CITY'S GONNA APPROVE IT AND THE CONTRACT THAT'S GONNA GO BUILD IT, IF IT'S, IF IT'S GONNA TAKE MORE THAN A MILLION, IT'S GONNA TAKE MORE THAN A MILLION.

COREY, CAN YOU PUT UP THE, UH, LIST OF RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU WANTED TO PUT TAG WITH THIS? UH, THIS ONE OR THE SECOND ONE? IT, THERE'S TWO PAGES.

YEAH, THERE'S TWO PAGES.

I HAD TO SPLIT THEM.

SO YEAH, I THINK FOR THE MOST PART ON THE FIRST AND SECOND ONE, WE CAN ALL KIND OF AGREE ON THAT.

RIGHT.

AND THEN THIRD, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE ON FOURTH ABOUT THE DJS AND STAGE PERFORMANCES, AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE MAYBE ON THE SECOND PAGE THAT THERE WAS SOME DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THE HOURS.

YEAH, IF I DON'T HAVE A SECOND ON THAT, THEN, THEN I, I, I WON'T WASTE TIME WITH THE MOTION, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

I THINK 2:00 AM IS FINE OPEN TO SECURITY IF WE WANNA COMPLICATE IT.

I HEAR YOU THOUGH, DENISE.

UH, I THINK I'VE MADE MY CASE.

I'M HAPPY TO REST IT NOW.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, WHO WANTS TO MAKE SOME KIND OF A MOTION? I WILL MAKE A MOTION CHAIR.

GO AHEAD JIM.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT DID YOU CLOSE.

WE DENY THE SPECIAL USE PROPERTY, UH, PERMIT RATHER FOR 44 60 BELTLINE ROAD, UM, TO ALLOW FOR LATE NIGHT OPERATION AND ONSITE CONSUMPTION OF HOOKAH CASE 9 1 9 3 7, UH, FOR THE REASONS THAT IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE TOWN'S ADOPTED POLICIES AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED NAY.

NAY.

UH, HAVING SEEN THE COUNT WAIT MINUTE.

I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR, SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR IF YOU WERE YAY OR NAY.

NAY.

OKAY, SO THAT'S FOUR YAYS AND THREE NAY.

FOUR YAYS AND THREE NAYS.

SO THE MOTION IS, UM, DENIED.

SORRY.

NEXT ITEM BUSINESS

[4. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request to amend the permitted use and development standards and development plans for Planned Development (PD), Ordinance No. 025-026, for an 8.02± acre property generally located at the southwest corner of Midway Road and Beltway Drive, to allow for the modification and construction of two stand-along retail buildings (identified as Buildings 15 and 16) within the mixed-use development. Case 1945-Z/AMLI Treehouse, Phase 2 Retail Amendment.]

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PERMITTED USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD ORDINANCE 0 2 5 DASH 0 2 6 FOR AN 8.02.

APPROXIMATE ACREAGE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MIDWAY AND BELTLINE DRIVE TO ALLOW FOR THE MODIFICATION AND CONSTRUCTION OF TWO STAND.

I THINK THAT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY STANDALONE.

IT IS RETAIL BUILDINGS.

I THOUGHT I WAS SEEING CROSSEY HERE.

, UM, IDENTIFIES AS IDENTIFIED AS

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BUILDINGS 15 AND 16 WITHIN THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT CASE, 1945 DASH Z ALEY, TREEHOUSE, PHASE TWO RETAIL AMENDMENT, LESLIE, LESLIE NITRIC DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

UM, AS JUST, UH, RECITED, THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THE AMLI TREE OFF PHASE TWO PROJECT, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY EIGHT ACRES, UH, FRONTING ON MIDWAY ROAD.

UM, AS WE'VE ALL HEARD A COUP FEW DIFFERENT TIMES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THIS IS THE SECOND PHASE TO A MUCH LARGER PROJECT, UH, WITH THE FIRST PHASE IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

UM, THE REQUEST THIS EVENING IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT, UH, WHICH IS ORDINANCE, UH, 0 2 5 DASH 0 2 6, UM, WHICH INCLUDED, UM, NEW DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE TWO RETAIL BUILDINGS AS WELL AS SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE PERMITTED USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

UM, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON PHASE TWO SPECIFICALLY.

UM, SO THIS SITE, UM, WAS REZONED FROM COMMERCIAL TO AND LOCAL RETAIL TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT BACK IN THE LATE SEVENTIES.

UM, THAT DID, UH, IT WAS THEN REZONED TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES.

AND THAT ALLOWED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PREVIOUS, UM, ONE AND TWO STORY RETAIL CENTER.

UM, THAT EXISTED UP UNTIL, I DON'T KNOW, ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, GIVE OR TAKE, UNTIL IT ALL CAME DOWN.

UM, IN 20:24 AM RESIDENTIAL DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY AND, UM, WITH THAT ACQUISITION, DID SUBMIT A RE REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY, UM, WHICH IS NOW WHAT WE KNOW AS PHASE TWO OF THE TREE HOUSE, UM, INCLUDING, UM, FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES, RENTAL TOWN HOMES, MULTI-FAMILY, AS WELL AS SOME RETAIL COMPONENTS WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT.

UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR IN 2025, UH, CADENCE HOMES CAME FORWARD WITH, UH, AMLI AS THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOME DEVELOPER, UM, TO SOLIDIFY THE PLANS FOR 56 FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOME UNITS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.

UM, AND THEN THIS EVENING, UM, IS A, AN ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT TO ONCE AGAIN SOLIDIFY THE RETAIL COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT.

SO, UM, THIS IS A, A LARGE OVERVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PHASE TWO.

UM, REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING IS SPECIFIC TO THE FAR NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROJECT, GENERALLY OUTLINED IN RED.

UM, ON THIS SITE PLAN, I DO WANNA MAKE A VERY GENERALIZED STATEMENT THAT THE, UM, THE BUILDING CONFIGURATION, GENERALLY SPEAKING, AS WELL AS THE LAND USES DEFINED TO THOSE BUILDINGS, HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED WITH THIS PROPOSAL.

SO EVERYTHING, AS OF A MONTH AGO, EVERYTHING THAT WAS DESIGNATED AS A FEE, SIMPLE TOWN, HOME RENTAL TOWN HOME, MULTI-FAMILY RETAIL, THAT HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED.

SO THERE'S NO, UM, TRUE SHIFTING OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.

UM, IT IS GENERALLY IN LINE AND MEETS THE INTENT OF WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE ADDING, UM, A LEVEL, AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF DETAIL TO THIS PROJECT.

UM, THE PREVIOUS PROJECT DID REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF 2,500 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL RESTAURANT SPACE AT THIS HARD CORNER.

UM, THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES, UM, TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, BUILDINGS, UH, 15 AND 16.

UM, AND THEY TOTAL, UH, 12,625 SQUARE FEET, UM, COMBINED OF, UH, GROSS FLOOR AREA THERE.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, THERE IS STILL THE CONSISTENT, UM, IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE ALREADY APPROVED AND, UM, SOME OF THEM ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, INCLUDING, UM, SOME OF THE OPEN SPACE, PRIVATE OPEN SPACE, AS WELL AS PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, WHICH THE EXTENSION OF THE TRAIL BEHIND THE PROPERTY BEHIND THE PROJECT, UM, AND A VARIETY OF, UH, PARKING THAT WILL BE PROVIDED ON SITE AS WELL.

SO I'M GONNA GET STARTED.

THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES WE'RE GONNA KIND OF DELVE INTO THE PERMITTED USE AND LAND USE STANDARD MODIFICATIONS.

UM, THIS IS, UH, IDENTIFIED AS, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S EXHIBIT B WITHIN THE ORDINANCE.

SO WHEN THIS WAS FIRST APPROVED BACK IN, UH, 2024, WHICH IS THE PHASE TWO, UM, THE UDC OR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE WAS STILL, UM, PRETTY FAR OFF ON THE HORIZON AS FAR AS ADOPTION, UM, WAS CONCERNED.

AND SO HOW THIS WAS, UM, STRUCTURED WAS BASED UPON THE CODE WE HAD AT THAT TIME.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW NOW THE UDC HAS BEEN ADOPTED AND THE RETAIL AT THE TIME WAS A VERY BROAD CATEGORY.

SO JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, UM, BANK WOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED UNDER, UH, PERSONAL SERVICES OR RETAIL.

UM, THINGS THAT HA ARE NOW SEPARATED WITHIN CERTAIN USES WOULD'VE BEEN INCLUDED IN RETAIL.

UM, I

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PROBABLY WOULD'VE CLASSIFIED ANIMAL GROOMING SERVICES UNDER RETAIL IN THE OLD CODE, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.

UM, AND HOWEVER, WE NOW HAVE NEW DEFINITIONS FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS AND WE HAVE, THERE'S A VOID IF YOU WILL, UH, 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THESE, THESE ITEMS DEFINED.

UM, OR RATHER WE DO NOW HAVE THEM DEFINED IN THE UDC.

SO, UM, THE APPLICANT AND I, UM, AND STAFF, WE ALL TOOK A LOOK AT THINGS THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY CONSIDERED APPROPRIATE WITHIN THIS RETAIL SPACE.

UM, RELYING HEAVILY ON THE M TWO ZONING DISTRICT.

THAT DISTRICT IS, UM, A MIXED USE SUBURBAN CORRIDOR DISTRICT, WHICH IS VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH THIS STYLE OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, ALONG AN ARTERIAL LIKE, UH, MIDWAY ROAD.

UM, SO THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THESE WERE PULLED FROM.

UM, WE DID NOT ENCOMPASS THE ENTIRETY OF ALL PERMITTED USES IN THE M TWO, UM, BUT THE APPLICANT WAS, UM, PRETTY SELECTIVE WITH WHAT THEY FELT LIKE COULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TENANT, ESPECIALLY, UH, WITH THEIR MARKET RESEARCH.

AND, UH, COLLABORATED WITH STAFF TO IDENTIFY SOME USES THAT MAY NOT BE, UM, INCLUDED IN THE UDC BUT MAY BE APPROPRIATE TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, ONE OF THOSE NEW USES IS ANIMAL GROOMING.

UM, THAT IS A NEW USE THAT IS NOT IN THE UDC.

UM, AND SO THEREFORE WE HAVE PROPOSED A DEFINITION WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE RED LINE.

UM, GENERALLY IT'S GROOMING SERVICES RELATED TO, UM, DOMESTICATED ANIMALS, BUT SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS OVERNIGHT BOARDING, BREEDING, SALE OF SALE OF ANIMALS, UM, MEDICAL TREATMENT BEYOND BASIC INCIDENTAL CARE, SUCH AS NAIL TRIMMING OR EAR CLEANING.

UM, AND IT COULD ALSO INCLUDE ACCESSORY RETAIL OF, OF PET RELATED PRODUCTS.

SO, UM, THAT IS THE PROPOSED DEFINITION FOR THAT SPECIFIC USE.

ALL OTHER USES, UM, WOULD BE THE DEFINITION WOULD FALL TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, UM, AS THEY ARE ADOPTED TODAY AND POTENTIALLY AMENDED IN THE FUTURE.

UM, ONCE AGAIN, I MENTIONED THIS IN THE WORK SESSION.

ANY OF THESE USES, UM, WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

UM, SO A TOWN HOME, A FEE, SIMPLE TOWN HOME FOR EXAMPLE, UH, COULD NOT BE CONVERTED TO A RESTAURANT OR A BANK OR AN ANIMAL GROOMING SERVICE.

THESE USES, UM, THAT YOU SEE THAT ARE NOT SPECIFIC, FOR EXAMPLE, TO, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS COULD BE, UH, APPLICABLE IN THE RETAIL COMPONENT ONLY, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED IN PHASE TWO, SPECIFICALLY AS BUILDINGS 15 AND 16.

UM, YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP HERE, UM, THERE ARE ONLY THE TWO PINK, UM, OR SALMON COLORED AREAS OR THE ONLY AREAS IDENTIFIED ON THE SITE PLAN THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR, UM, SPECULATIVE RETAIL SPACE.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION? I THOUGHT THERE WAS RETAIL IN SOME OF THE MULTI BUILDINGS GROUND FLOOR ON PHASE ONE.

OKAY, THANK YOU MIKE.

YOU'RE DEFINING IT TO, OKAY.

YEAH.

UM, SO, UH, AND THEN I'LL ALSO JUST, UH, QUICK CLARIFICATION 'CAUSE IT CAME UP.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF USES THAT ARE, DO REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE BASE CODE IN THE UDC AND THOSE ARE PROPOSED TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD.

SO TWO NOTES OF THAT IS THE BEER AND WINE SALES FOR OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.

UM, IT IS PROPOSED THAT AN SUP WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED, UM, AS WELL AS A MICRO BREWERY.

SO, UM, BUT AS AN EXAMPLE, IF THEY, IF, UM, WE BROUGHT UP POST DINO, THEY HAVE A RESTAURANT WITH A WINE COMPONENT FOR RETAIL SALES, THEIR RESTAURANT COULD POTENTIALLY BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT IF IT WAS CLOSED BEFORE 11:00 PM BUT IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE A SMALL AREA NEAR THE HOSTESS STAND AND SELL WINE AND CHEESE, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT.

SO THIS, UM, INCLUDING THIS IN THE PD AS AN OPTION TO, UM, REQUEST A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UM, WOULD GIVE A FUTURE TENANT THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT, BUT IT WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED BY WRIGHT.

AND, UM, I'LL ALSO ADD THAT THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE M TWO DISTRICT SAYS TODAY.

UM, AND LAST THING I'LL MENTION IS THIS IS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY LIQUOR SALES 'CAUSE THAT IS DEFINED AS UNDER OUR CHARTER, WHICH IS PROHIBITED ANYWHERE, NOT ON THE EAST SIDE OF INWOOD ROAD.

GENERALLY.

UH, MOVING ON TO SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, WE DID, UH, WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT FORM THIS, THE FORM STANDARDS, WHICH WOULD BE SETBACKS, THINGS LIKE THAT OFF OF THE M TWO DISTRICT.

UM, THESE WOULD, UM, THESE DEVELOP DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO BUILDINGS 15 AND 16 AS PREVIOUSLY SHOWED.

THE, UM, APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO COMPLY WITH

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ALL OF THESE STANDARDS EXCEPT FOR THE MINIMUM HEIGHT.

THEY ARE SEEKING A FIVE FOOT REDUCTION.

UH, THE MINIMUM HEIGHT IN THE M TWO DISTRICT IS 25 FEET AND THEY'RE REQUESTING, EXCUSE ME, A FIVE FOOT REDUCTION TO 20 FEET.

THE BUILDINGS ARE FAIRLY CLOSE TO THAT 25 FEET.

SO, UM, AND WE'LL LOOK AT THE FACADES IN A MOMENT.

UH, ONE'S ONE OF THE BUILDINGS IS, UM, 24.5 FEET AND THE OTHER IS PROPOSED TO BE 21 FEET.

UM, MOVING ON TO THE OTHER MOD PROPOSED CHANGE, UH, TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IS THE INTRODUCTION OF THE PARKING RATIOS FOR THE OTHER PROPOSED, UM, NEW USES INTO THE, INTO THE CODE.

UM, THERE ARE NO PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS FROM THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

UM, THESE ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED OR WHAT'S WHAT OR WITH WHAT IS IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THE ONE EXCEPTION TO THAT IS, UM, THERE IS ANIMAL GROOMING SERVICES INTRODUCED AT A RATIO OF ONE PER 500.

UM, 'CAUSE THERE IS, UM, AS I MENTIONED, THERE IS NO, UH, PARKING RATIO FOR ANIMAL GROOMING SERVICES IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SO THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THE CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

SO PERMITTED USES PARKING AND THEN IDENTIFYING THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS FOR THE RETAIL COMPONENT.

UM, I'LL ALSO MENTION THE RETAIL STA DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS WERE NEVER IDENTIFIED.

SO THOSE ARE ARE NEW 'CAUSE THEY NEVER EXISTED.

THEY, THEY'RE NOT CHANGING BASED UPON SOMETHING THAT WAS THERE BEFORE.

UM, GETTING INTO, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE RETAIL COMPONENT ITSELF.

I MENTIONED THIS SPACE IS A LITTLE OVER THE, THE TWO BUILDINGS COMBINES A LITTLE OVER 2,500, EXCUSE ME, 12,500 SQUARE FEET OF SPECULATIVE, UH, RETAIL RESTAURANT SPACE.

THERE IS A APPROXIMATELY 3000 SQUARE FOOT PATIO BETWEEN THE TWO.

UM, THOSE WILL CONTINUE.

I THE FORM IS OBVIOUSLY PROPOSED AND DESIGNED.

THOSE WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ONCE WE HAVE TENANTS IDENTIFIED AND THEY DETERMINE EXACTLY HOW THEY WANT TO USE THAT SPACE.

UM, BUT THERE GENERALLY IS KIND OF TWO MORE, UM, PROGRAMMED PATIO SPACES FOR EACH OF THE INTERIOR FACING TENANTS.

AND THEN THERE IS A COMMON, UM, COURTYARD AREA THAT IS, UM, MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME CASUAL SEATING, UM, KIND OF HANGOUT AREA IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO AREAS.

THE ONE, AND WE DID RECEIVE A QUESTION REGARDING SOLID WASTE.

UM, THERE ARE, UM, SOLID WASTE SERVICES.

THERE'S TWO 30 CUBIC YARD COMPACTORS IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF BUILDING 15.

UM, I DID, I INCLUDED THIS, UM, IMAGE HERE.

IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, SO IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, AND THAT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO SERVE THE, THE OTHER, THE RESIDENTIAL TENANTS AS WELL AS THE, THE RETAIL TENANTS.

SO THIS IS, UH, WHAT THE PROPOSED FACADE LOOKS LIKE FOR, UM, THE BUILDING 15, WHICH IS THE SOUTHERNMOST BUILDING.

UM, THERE ARE POTENTIALLY, UM, UP TO THREE TENANT SPACES IDENTIFIED THAT COULD CHANGE, UM, BASED UPON THE, THE, THE TENANT PROPOSED, UM, AND HOW MUCH SPACE THEY NEED.

UM, THIS IS THE BUILDING THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE APPROXIMATELY 24 AND A HALF FEET WITH, THERE'S A CLEAR STORY, UH, WINDOW THAT ADDS SOME ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST AT THE TOP OF THE BUILDING.

AND OBVIOUSLY YOU SEE, UM, THERE'S OTHER ARCHITECTURAL, UM, ELEMENTS SUCH AS CANOPIES AND KIND OF, UM, OTHER, UM, VARYING ELEMENTS, MATERIAL ELEMENTS THAT ARE ADDED.

UM, THIS PER ALL THE BUILDINGS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES ARE DO REQUIRE 90% MASONRY, UM, PER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

UM, AND BOTH THE, BOTH OF THE BUILDINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT EXCEED THAT I ONE IS APPROXIMATELY 91% AND THE OTHER ONE'S APPROXIMATELY 94%.

UM, THIS IS THE OTHER PROPOSED FACADE.

UM, THIS BUILDING, UH, FOR BUILDING 16.

THIS IS PROPOSED TO BE APPROXIMATELY 21 FEET IN HEIGHT.

UM, YOU CAN SEE IT CARRIES FORWARD, UH, SAME MASONRY MATERIAL AND SIMILAR ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS AND, AND GLAZING.

UM, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.

UM, YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS KIND OF THE OVERALL PLAN, BUT IN THE MIDDLE YOU SEE THE BLOWN UP VERSION OF THE, UM, RETAIL AREA THAT WAS, UM, ENHANCED OR MODIFIED BASED UPON, UM, THEM FIRMING UP THE DESIGN.

UM, SO WITH THE PARKING, UH, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE PARKING STANDARDS AS WE'RE UPDATED TO REFLECT THE ALIGNMENT WITH THE NEW PROPOSED USES IN THE UDC.

UM, THE, UM, OVERALL PLAN AS IT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED, UM, WHICH IT WAS PREVIOUSLY AND CONTINUES TO BE EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM

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PARKING REQUIREMENT, UM, FOR THE, THE PROPOSED USES ON THE SITE.

UM, ANY, ANY PROPOSED USE MOVING FORWARD, UH, CHANGE OF TENANT, THINGS LIKE THAT, WE WILL EVALUATE THE PARKING.

UM, IT SHOULD NOT, I DON'T ANTICIPATE IT WILL BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE OF HOW THE PARKING STANDARDS WERE CALCULATED BASED UPON THE MOST INTENSE ANTICIPATED USE.

SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE WE WILL EVER RUN INTO A SCENARIO WHERE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING.

UM, BUT IF THERE IS FOR SOME REASON WE EVALUATE THAT DURING THE PERMITTING PROCESS ANYWAYS.

AND THEN REGARDING LANDSCAPING, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE APPROVED, UM, CONCEPT PLAN FOR THIS AREA WAS REGARDING LANDSCAPING.

THERE WERE SOME MINOR ADJUSTMENTS, UM, LIKE TREE PLACEMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT TO ACCOUNT FOR SOME SHIFTING OF THE COURTYARD.

UM, THERE WAS, UM, WITH THIS PLAN THERE WAS A MORE, UM, THOUGHTFUL EVALUATION OF WHERE SIGNAGE WAS GONNA BE, ESPECIALLY DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE.

UH, 'CAUSE IT IS A BIG NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS ONE TREE THAT WAS PROPOSED TO BE, UM, AT THE FAR NORTHWEST CORNER AT THE ENTRY OF BELTLINE, EXCUSE ME, BELTWAY.

AND THAT TREE WAS RELOCATED TO A, UM, A TREE, WELL TO ACCOUNT FOR LOCATION OF SIGNAGE.

BUT AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT AND QUANTITY OF TREES AND LANDSCAPING MATERIAL, THEY'RE CONSISTENT, UM, WITH WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.

UM, THIS DID COME UP IN THE WORK SESSION, SO I PUT THIS SLIDE TOGETHER REALLY QUICKLY.

SO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT EV CHARGERS.

UM, SO WHAT IS PROPOSED WITH PHASE TWO, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE PHASE ONE, UM, IN TOTAL IS 22 EV CHARGING SPACES ON SURFACE LOT SURFACE SPACES.

BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO 34 EV READY, UM, SPACES, IF YOU WILL, THAT ARE IN THE GARAGES AND TUCK UNDER SPACES THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SO IN TOTAL YOU'RE NEARING IF ALL OF THEM ARE BUILT OUT 56 EV CHARGING SPACES, UM, WITH THE, ONCE AGAIN, THIS WAS APPROVED PREVIOUSLY TO THE EUDC, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO ACCOMMODATE A MINIMUM OF 15, WHICH THEY HAVE EXCEEDED.

UM, THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE THERE, UM, UNDER THE SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS, THAT'S WHAT CURRENTLY HAS BEEN ADOPTED TODAY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE UDC STANDARDS, UM, IT IS ONE PER EVERY 25 SPACES.

SO THE REQUIREMENT UNDER THE UDC IS 15.08 CHARGING SPACES, WHICH THEY HAVE EXCEEDED.

SO WE'RE GOOD THERE.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING I JUST WANNA ADD, UM, THIS DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY GET BROUGHT UP, BUT, UM, THE APPLICANT WAS ALREADY DOING THIS PRIOR TO THE UDC.

UM, JUST WANNA MENTION IT, THAT THE UDC DOES REQUIRE BICYCLE PARKING.

NOW, UM, ONE PER EVERY 10 VEHICLE SPACES, ACTUALLY, EXCUSE ME, THE UDC REQUIRES A PERCENTAGE, IT'S 5%.

UM, AND THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO DO, UM, ONE PER EVERY 10 VEHICLE SPACES, UH, WITH 50% OF THEM BEING IN ENCLOSED SPACE.

SO, UM, THEY'RE ALREADY DOING THAT.

UM, WHICH ONCE AGAIN EXCEEDS THE UDC STANDARD.

SO THE APPLICANT, OR EXCUSE ME, STAFF DID NOT THE APPLICANT, UH, PROVIDED NOTICE TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE WITHIN ADDISON, UH, THAT INCLUDED 47 RECIPIENTS.

UM, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES BACK.

UM, SO STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL AND, UM, WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT IT, WE FEEL IT COMPLIES WITH THE INTENT, UH, AND THE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAN DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS, UM, IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

I KNOW THE APPLICANT HAS A BRIEF PRESENTATION AS WELL.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION COURT, LESLIE, AS A, UH, POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE PERMITTED USES AS IT RELATES TO OFF-PREMISE BEER AND WINE SALES.

THE EXAMPLE YOU USED WAS A TINO STYLE RESTAURANT.

MM-HMM .

THAT YOU COULD BUY WINE OR WHATEVER MM-HMM .

UH, DOES THIS PROVIDE FOR A BEER AND WINE STORE, LIKE A CONVENIENCE TYPE STORE? UM, I DON'T, WELL, I MEAN, TECHNICALLY I THINK IT COULD, BUT IT WOULD STILL REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

UM, I MEAN, WE COULD, I WILL DEFER TO THE APPLICANT, UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD POTENTIALLY SPECIFY AS IT'S ONLY ALLOWED AS AN ACCESSORY ACCESSORY USE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHERS? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

COME ON UP GUYS.

OR ONE ROBERT.

IT'S A PDF.

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GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS CHAIRPERSON STAFF.

GOOD PRESENTATION.

LESLIE.

UM, UH, AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, OH, I APOLOGIZE.

ROBERT LAB, VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT FOR AM ADDRESS.

IT'S FOR THE, THOSE THAT WE DON'T SEE NOTED ROBERT LAB, VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT FOR ALEY.

WE RESIDE LOCALLY CORPORATE CITIZENS OF ADDISON FOR OVER TWO DECADES.

50 57 KELLER SPRINGS, ADDISON, TEXAS.

SO LESLIE DID A GOOD JOB WITH THE PRESENTATION.

SO I'LL HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS.

UH, JUST FOR THOSE WHO ARE LESS FAMILIAR WITH US, UH, AM AMS LOCALLY RESIDES IN ADDISON TAYLOR'S OUR PRESIDENT, AND CEO OF THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT GROUP.

HE SITS HERE WITH US.

OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS ALL LOCAL CONSTRUCTION TEAM.

WE ARE ALL TEXAS BASED.

UH, OUR PORTFOLIO, WE HAVE 11 PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE HELD FOR ALMOST ON AVERAGE OVER 10 YEARS LONG-TERM OWNERS.

AND ADDISON IS ONE OF OUR LARGEST PROJECTS IN THE METROPLEX RETAIL EXPERIENCE.

WE HAVE TWO LOCAL RETAIL DIRECTORS THAT HANDLE OUR LEASING IN-HOUSE.

WE'VE ALSO ENGAGED SHOP COMPANIES WHO HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN ADDISON, ADDISON WALK BEING EXAMPLE, UH, TO HELP LEASE UP THIS RETAIL.

OVER 50% OF OUR RETAIL IS LOCATED IN TEXAS.

SO WHERE ARE WE AT TO DATE ON THE PROJECT? JUST TO RECAP FOR PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN PLACE AND MOU TO HELP PUSH ALONG THIS DEVELOPMENT, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING IN COMPLIANCE.

AS OF OCTOBER, WE HAD CADENCE HOMES DESIGN APPROVED AT COUNCIL.

WE ARE HOPING THAT THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND CLOSE ON THOSE LOTS AND START IN CONSTRUCTION SECOND QUARTER OF 26.

REGARDING THE RETAIL NOVEMBER OF 24, WHICH IS OVER A YEAR AGO, WE ENGAGED SHOP COMPANIES TO GO AHEAD AND START MARKETING THE RETAIL PRIOR TO ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION.

UH, CAFE IN PHASE ONE.

DENISE, I THINK YOU MENTIONED THIS, WE DO HAVE RETAIL IN PHASE ONE, 7,000 SQUARE FEET, 3,500 SQUARE FOOT CAFE, 3,500 SQUARE FEET OF COWORK.

WE ARE ACTIVELY MARKETING THAT.

WE HAVE FLYERS, WE HAND 'EM OUT.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ONE, WE'RE HAPPY TO EMAIL YOU ONE.

TRAIL EXTENSION AND PARK, WE'RE ABOUT ONE YARD OUT, THE ONE YARD LINE HERE.

WE HAVE THREE ACRE PARK THAT WE ARE PROJECTED TO DEDICATE TO THE TOWN, AS IN PENDING INSPECTION, PUNCH WALKS, ET CETERA, FIRST QUARTER OF 26.

REGARDING SUSTAINABILITY REQUIREMENTS, WE ARE CURRENTLY ACHIEVING ME, UH, MINIMUM LEAD SILVER CERTIFICATION.

SO TO RECAP, CONDITIONS OF ACQUISITION WAS 1980S.

VINTAGE RETAIL BUILDINGS, UH, SOME WELL-KNOWN TENANTS, MIDWAY POINT, ALL EVERYONE'S FAVORITE VENET DJS.

HERE'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WE DEMOLISHED ALL THE BUILDINGS SOMETIME OVER SECOND QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.

WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING SITE IMPROVEMENTS IN ANTICIPATION OF BUILDING OUR, DOING OUR BUILDING FOUNDATIONS.

AND ACTUALLY WE SPONSORED THE GRAND REOPENING OF MIDWAY POINT IN OCTOBER.

IT WAS A HIT.

UH, HERE'S THE AERIAL RENDERING OF THE ENTIRE 21.8 ACRE DEVELOPMENT.

YOU CAN SEE THE CADENCE TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENTS IS ACTING AS A BUFFER BETWEEN OPEN SPACE AND OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS.

THEN THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE RETAIL, THE STANDALONE RETAIL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS AT THE HARD CORNER OF BELTWAY AND MIDWAY.

HERE'S THE KEY MAP.

YOU CAN SEE THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, RENTAL DEVELOPMENT, THE FOR SALE PRODUCT, ADORNING THE PARK, AND THEN THE TWO RETAIL BUILDINGS ON THE CORNER.

UH, LESLIE ALREADY COVERED THIS, BUT JUST TO HAMMER IT HOME, THE RETAIL SERVICE AND STAGING WILL BE ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDINGS.

THERE WILL BE CONVENIENT ACCESS TO THAT.

UH, ENCLOSED COMPACTOR.

IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE NICE COMPACTORS WE'VE EVER DESIGNED.

BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM STAFF, THEY WANTED NICE MATERIALS, SIDING, MAKE IT LOOK PRETTY ENHANCED.

LANDSCAPING, WE DID THAT.

AND FURTHER, YOU KNOW, TWO THINGS THAT DEVELOPERS ALWAYS RUN OFF OF OUR TRANSFORMERS AND TRASH.

WE DON'T WANT A BUNCH OF TRASH TRUCKS DRIVING THROUGH OUR PROPERTY, DISTURBING OUR RESIDENCE.

WE DID THOROUGH ANALYSIS BASED ON TRASH USE AND PICKUPS AT AMELIA ADDISON AM QUADRANGLE AND A FEW OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE METROPLEX TO ACTUALLY SIZE THESE COMPACTORS.

HOPEFULLY PICKUPS WILL BE LIMITED TO ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT, UH, THE ELEVATIONS OF THE ACTUAL COMPACTOR ENCLOSURE.

SITE PLAN.

LESLIE TOUCHED ON SPECIFIC BUILDING PLANS,

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ELEVATIONS, LANDSCAPE PLAN, DIVERSE USE OF, UH, PLANT MATERIAL, TREES, SHADE TREES AND ORNAMENTALS.

AND THEN IN ADDITION, WE DO HAVE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO DO, WE ARE ADDING ENHANCED VEHICULAR PAVERS SPECIFIC TO THE RETAIL, KINDA ACCESS TO DEMARCATION POINT BETWEEN MULTIFAMILY FOR SALE AND THE RETAIL USES.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT, IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND TO DO.

AND THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

I HAVE MY ONE QUESTION, AND THIS IS MORE FOR JUST TO GIVE ME PEACE OF MIND.

IF YOU DO A DOG GROOMING PLACE, IS THERE SPECIFIC INSULATION FROM NOISE SO THAT WHOEVER YOU PUT NEXT TO IT DOESN'T HEAR DOG BARKING? LIKE I DON'T WANNA SIT AT A RESTAURANT NEXT DOOR TO IT AT LUNCH AND HEAR DOGS BARK.

LIKE WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS FOR THAT? WE, WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW DOGS GROOMING.

I MEAN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FOUR, SORRY, I'M SORRY.

YEAH.

UH, TAYLOR WITH AM RESIDENTIAL 50 57 KELLER SPRINGS.

THANK YOU ROBERT.

QUICK QUESTION I THINK WAS ABOUT DOG GROOMING AND PETS.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE QUITE A FEW VETERINARIAN SLASH UH, ANIMAL SERVICES IN, IN OUR RETAIL PORTFOLIO.

IT'S A KIND OF A POPULAR USE.

NOW, I WILL SAY THAT THE REASON THAT THIS HAS GOT PUT IN OUR, UH, OUR USES IS BECAUSE OF THE UDC.

AGAIN, WE WERE TRYING TO COMBINE THE TWO AND MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE TIES TO THE UDC.

WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC LIKE, VET IN PLACE RIGHT NOW OR SOMEBODY THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA USE.

BUT IF WE WERE TO GET SOMEBODY LIKE THAT AS ANIMAL SERVICES, YES, THE ADJACENT TENANTS WOULD ABSOLUTELY REQUIRE SOMETHING.

THE OTHER THING I'LL TELL YOU WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE IS A RELIEF AREA TOO, WHICH IS A, YEAH, A RELIEF AREA.

THAT'S A BIG PART OF HAVING, HAVING UH, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THESE, UM, UH, UH, DENSE VET AREAS WHERE THERE'S SOME, UH, DAYTIME, UH, CARE THAT THAT TAKES PLACE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THANK YOU ALL.

HAVING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

I'LL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON IT OR ANYONE ONLINE? IS THAT A SCOTT BACK THERE? IS HE YES OR NO? NOBODY'S ONLINE.

OKAY.

HAVING SEEN NONE, I CLOSE.

I GUESS I DIDN'T OFFICIALLY OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'VE NOW OPENED IT AND CLOSED IT HAVING SEEN NONE.

UM, COMMISSIONERS ANY FINAL COMMENTS? OKAY, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE APPROVAL OF CASE 1941 DASH Z AS PRESENTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? IIII HAVE MY HAND UP.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT MOTION WITH A PROVISION FOR THE, UH, WINE AND BEER SALE RETAIL TO BE FOR AN ACCESSORY USE ONLY.

FINE WITH ME.

SO DO YOU SEE, JUST NEED TO RESTATE HIS MOTION OR DO WE NEED TO ADDRESS WHAT I THINK YOU'RE ASKING? IS IT ALREADY IT NEEDS TO BE WITHDRAWN AND THEN RESTATED, BUT FOR, FOR CLARITY CAN AMEND THE MOTION.

IT'S, IT'S VERY SIMPLE, RIGHT? BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT I NEED TO DO.

DO I NEED TO WITHDRAW? DOES TOM WITHDRAW WHO WITHDRAWS? OR DO I TAKE HIM? HE MADE A MOTION.

IT WAS IT SECONDED ALREADY? I DON'T KNOW IF I CAUGHT WHO SECONDED IT.

EJ SECONDED.

THE EJ SECONDED TOM'S MOTION AND THEN THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT AND THEN JIMMY, UH, ASKED FOR AN AMENDMENT.

SO JIMMY COULD AMEND TOM'S MOTION.

UM, AND THERE COULD BE A SECOND ON THE AMENDMENT.

YOU WOULD THEN VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT AND THEN YOU WOULD VOTE ON THE NEW MOTION, WHICH WOULD BE TOM'S ORIGINAL MOTION PLUS THE AMENDMENT.

OKAY.

THAT DID NOTHING FOR ME.

SO WE NEED, WE NEED SAILOR, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK REAL QUICK? TALK.

WHAT WERE YOU GONNA SAY? I'M SORRY.

YEAH, JIM, I, I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE, THE AMENDMENT OR THE, THE QUESTION IS THIS, IS THIS, IF WE WERE TO GET LIKE A, UM, LIKE A-A-A-A-A BEER AND WINE STORE, LIKE SOMETHING THEY WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

IT'S, IT'S TO PROHIBIT SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YES.

BINGO.

YEAH, WE'RE ABSOLUTELY FINE WITH ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE TO COME IN IF WE HAD LIKE A PURE LIQUOR STORE, BEER AND WINE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

DOES THAT FALL UNDER THE REGULAR SORRY, SORRY.

I THINK THERE'S TENSION.

UM, I BELIEVE WHAT JIMMY IS ASKING, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THAT THAT PROVISION IS ONLY ALLOWED AS AN ACCESSORY USE TO ANOTHER PERMITTED USE.

SO, SO YOU COULDN'T HAVE JUST A STANDALONE E EVEN WITH APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, YOU, YOU OR A TENANT COULD NOT APPLY FOR A BEER AND WINE STORE ALONE, AN SUP.

HOWEVER, YOU COULD APPLY STORE FOR A RESTAURANT WITH THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE, OR YOU COULD APPLY FOR A RETAIL STORE WITH THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, I MEAN, LOOK, IT'S, IT'S NOT OUR INTENDED USE HERE, BUT I MEAN, CLEARLY IF WE HAD A HIGHEND, YOU KNOW, HOGO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WANTED TO

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BE HERE, I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD COME TO COUNCIL AND WE WERE TO P AND Z INTO COUNCIL AND SAY, LOOK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE, THE USER THEY WOULD PRESENT AND COULD THEY BE APPROVED UNDER A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS WHAT WE WOULD BE VERY COMFORTABLE DOING.

AND I THINK MY AMENDMENT DOES THAT.

HOLD ON.

TEMA DOESN'T THE UDC AS IT STANDALONE OR IS THIS BECAUSE IT'S IN A DIFFERENT PD? IT'S NOT THAT THE UDCI THOUGHT THERE'S KIND OF A BLEND ON WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

LIKE, SO THERE IS TWO DIFFERENT STANDARDS.

UM, THERE IS BEER AND WINE SALES, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN A VARIETY OF DISTRICTS BY APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS A PRIMARY USE.

MM-HMM .

UM, AS, AS AN EXAMPLE, THE M TWO IS ONE OF THOSE.

UM, HOWEVER, THE LIQUOR, LIQUOR SALES IS PROHIBITED IN ANY LOCATION BY TOWN CHARTER OUTSIDE OF, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE EAST SIDE, EXCUSE ME, THE WEST SIDE OF INWOOD ROAD FROM BELTLINE TO THE TOWN LIMIT LINE.

UM, BUT YOU COULD NOT HAVE LIQUOR SALES PACKAGE LIQUOR SALES ANYWHERE ELSE IN ADDISON AND WITHOUT THE, EVEN VIA CHANGE OF ZONING, IT WOULD REQUIRE A CHARTER AMENDMENT IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

OKAY.

AND WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING THEN WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY EXCLUDE LIQUOR.

WE WE ARE FINE WITH THAT.

YEAH.

THE, THAT'S ALREADY PART OF IT AND THEN CORRECT.

MY, MY ONLY ASK WOULD BE IF IT WAS LIKE HIGH-END BEER AND WINE THAT WE WOULD MAYBE LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SPECIAL THAT BEING APPROVED VIA SPECIAL USE PERMIT VERSUS, BUT I THINK I HEAR YOU SAYING LESLIE IS THAT IT'S PROHIBITED AND IT HAS TO BE WITH AN ACCESSORY USE, SO WE CAN'T EVEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS.

JAMIE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE AMENDING.

IS THAT ACCURATE? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE AMENDMENT WOULD PROHIBIT A BEER AND WINE PACKAGE TYPE OR CONVENIENCE TYPE STORE THAT IS ACCURATE.

AND ARE YOU I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH AINO STYLE.

WAIT A MINUTE.

RESTAURANT THAT, THAT WANTS TO SELL BEER OR WINE TO GO.

SO YOUR CHARTER IS ONLY FOR LIQUOR, OKAY.

THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THANK YOU.

CHARTER'S ONLY FOR LIQUOR, BUT COULD, COULD WE MAKE IT SO THAT THE APPLICANT HAS AN OPTION TO COME BACK FOR AN SUP FOR AND LEAVE THAT UP TO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOME EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING IT'S PROHIBITED RIGHT NOW, YOU WOULD WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN COME, THEY COULD COME BACK, BUT IT HAS TO BE THROUGH AN SUP PROCESS FOR, FOR LIKE AN ALCOHOL ONLY ESTABLISHMENT.

I MEAN BEER AND WINE ONLY ESTABLISHMENT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT IT DOES.

, I DON'T KNOW IF, YEAH, I'M COOL WITH MAKING BEER AND WINE PRIMARY USE S PRIMARY.

YES.

ALREADY AS IT ALREADY IS.

YEAH.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TOUCH THAT.

RIGHT.

BUT, BUT WE OKAY.

OH, DO YOU MEAN FOR LIQUOR? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

WE'RE GOOD.

WE'RE TAKING LIQUOR.

WE CAN OPEN ONE AFTER THE MEETING IF WE NEED.

IT'S JUST THE SEMANTICS OF THIS AND WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE, WE UNDERSTAND THE ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS JUST BEER AND WINE, YOU KNOW, BUT OUR DESIRE TO HAVE A A KINDA WANNA USE A SPECIFIC NAME, BUT I THINK WE KNOW THE KIND OF CONCEPTS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TENANTING OR BUILDING HERE.

OKAY.

SO TO DO SUPER CLEANUP, WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON WHAT WAS SECONDED KNOWING THAT JIMMY WANTS TO DO A MOTION.

SO I THINK WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH JIMMY'S MOTION, SO WE SHOULD ALL WAIT.

NO, NO, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT.

WE WILL.

SO, OKAY, SO THERE IS CURRENTLY TO DO A QUICK RECAP.

UH, THERE IS A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

THERE WAS A SECOND FROM EJ.

UM, THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT PROVIDED BY JIMMY AND NOW THERE NEEDS TO BE A SECOND TO JIMMY'S AMENDMENT.

YYI THOUGHT SHE SAID HE CAN'T AMEND AFTER WE ALREADY DID A SECOND THAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT MOTION IF THERE WAS A SECOND.

WESLEY IS CORRECT.

IT CAN BE AMENDED NOW IF, IF THE ORIGINAL MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED.

IT HAS AND JIMMY MADE A MOTION TO AMEND THAT MOTION THAT IS ALREADY ON THE TABLE THAT HIS MOTION TO AMEND NEEDS A SECOND.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR JIMMY'S MOTION? CAN I HEAR HIS MOTION AGAIN? 'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE I REMEMBER IT.

, MY MOTION WAS TO AMEND, UH, TOM'S MOTION WITH THE PROVISION FOR ACCESSORY USE ONLY FOR THE BEER AND WINE SALES.

I'LL SECOND IT.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY, SO THAT MOTION IS DENIED.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE? YEAH, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND YOU HAVE THE PRIMARY MOTION STILL MOTION? NO, NO, THE TOM'S MOTION'S STILL ON THE TABLE.

OKAY.

OH, JUST THE AMENDMENT.

OKAY, SO YOU JUST, SO YOU JUST VOTED ON THE MOTION TO AMEND.

AMEND IS DENIED BACK.

NOW I WOULD

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ON'S ORIGINAL MOTION.

CAN I AMEND MY OWN? NO , CAN I AMEND MY OWN MOTION? I THINK TECHNICALLY YES.

RESTATE.

OH, OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I'M .

WELL, I THINK YOU WOULD WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION AND RE AND RESTATE, IS THAT PREFERABLE? YOU COULD DO IT EITHER WAY.

YEAH.

WITHDRAW AND RESTATE.

OKAY, I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND, AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CASE 1945 Z DASH AM LEE AS PRESENTED WITH THE, WITH ALLOWING, UH, BEER AND WINE SALES FOR ACCESSORY USE AND ALLOWING THE, THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK TO FOR A BEER AND WINE ONLY FACILITY THROUGH A SUP PROCESS.

THAT MAKES SENSE THAT THAT IS WHAT IS PROPOSED.

SO YOU DON'T NEED TO, SO YOU DON'T NEED TO AMEND, I DON'T NEED TO AMEND.

NO, NOPE.

THAT THAT WASN'T WHAT YOU JUST STATED WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR ORIGINAL MOTION.

OKAY.

SO THEN I'LL SECOND AND, OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND IS THE FIRST YES, I, I'LL THIRD IT.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

IT CARRIES THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED.

, WE, SORRY, CAN WE GET A QUICK TALLY OF WHO VOTED WHICH TO, FOR THAT LAST MO MOTION, WHICH WAS TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? I DON'T THINK ALL OF US SAID YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES, THERE WAS NO NAYS.

OKAY.

OH GOD.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANKS GUYS.

IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.

.

AT THIS TIME, UH, IT WILL OPEN UP FOR CITIZENS' COMMENTS.

ANY CITIZENS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON ANY MATTER OTHER THAN THE PERSONNEL MATTERS UNDER LITIGATION FOR A LENGTH OF TIME NOT TO EXCEED THREE MINUTES, NO P AND Z ACTION OR DISCUSSION MAY TAKE PLACE ON ANY MATTER UNTIL SUCH A MATTER HAS BEEN PLACED ON AN AGENDA AND POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAW.

ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK? OKAY.

HAVING SEEN NONE BEFORE I ADJOURN, UH, I WANNA THANK TOM FOR HIS SERVICE AS THIS IS HIS LAST NIGHT AND HE SPENT LOTS OF YEARS WITH OUR TOWN.

SO THANK YOU TOM.

AND WITH THAT, UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DECEMBER 16TH, 2025 IS OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED.

THANK Y'ALL.