[1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present.]
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IT IS FIVE THIRTY THREE AND WE'RE CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 9TH, 2025.
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT WITH ALL MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING.
UH, GOING RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.
COMMENTS RELATED PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS.
CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW.
COUNCIL'S NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ON THE ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
I DON'T HAVE ANY APPEARANCE CARDS.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE.
WE'LL CLOSE THAT ITEM AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLARIFICATION REQUESTS REGARDING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS NEEDED ON CONSENT ITEMS, UH, FROM COUNCIL? NO.
ALRIGHT, ITEM THREE A, COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
WHEN, UH, BEFORE WE HAVE MEETINGS, UH, THE, THE COUNCIL OFTEN WILL SEND QUESTIONS TO THE, UH, TO THE TOWN STAFF, UH, REGARDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
THOSE, UH, QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ARE PUT INTO A DOCUMENT THEN COMBINED TOGETHER, UH, TO CREATE ONE DOCUMENT.
THOSE ARE SENT OUT TO COUNCIL.
THAT, UH, DOCUMENT IS ALSO UPLOADED TO UPLOADED TO OUR WEBSITE, UH, WHERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE, FIND THE AGENDA, AND THERE'LL BE A LINK ON THAT AGENDA TO DOWNLOAD THE Q AND A DOCUMENT FROM THERE.
[4. Closed Meeting. The Addison City Council will enter a Closed Meeting pursuant to Texas Government Code Sections 551-071 through 090 to discuss the following item(s):]
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A CLOSED MEETING.THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL WILL ENTER A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 51 DASH 7 1 0 9 0 TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. FOUR A PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0 7 4, SECTION A ONE, UH, PER PERSONNEL MATTERS TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE.
AND THIS IS, UH, THE ANNUAL CITY MANAGER EVALUATION.
THEN ITEM FOUR B PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.087, SECTION ONE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS TO DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE REGARDING COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT THAT THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE STATE OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE TERRITORY OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY AND WITH WHICH THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.
AND THIS ITEM IS PROJECT RUSHMORE AND IT IS 5 35.
WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THIS TIME AND ASK ALL THOSE THAT, UH, DO NOT HAVE BUSINESS WITH THE, UH, THESE ITEMS TO EXIT THE ROOM.
AND WE'LL, UH, WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION THIS TIME.
[5. Open Meeting. In accordance with Texas Government Code Chapter 551, the Addison City Council will reconvene in an Open Meeting to consider action, if any, on the matters discussed in the Closed Meeting.]
SEVEN 20 AND WE'RE COMING BACK INTO, UH, OPEN SESSION FROM THE CLOSED SESSION AT SEVEN 20.THERE'S NO ACTION FOR US TO TAKE FROM THE CLOSED SESSION, SO NOW
[ COUNCIL MEETING The Addison City Council will convene for a Council Meeting beginning at 7:00 PM in the Council Chambers.]
WE'LL MOVE INTO A GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.UH, IT IS THE, UH, WELCOME TO THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL, UH, DECEMBER 9TH, 2025 MEETING.
WE'LL CALL THE REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER.
UH, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT WITH ALL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING.
AND AS ALWAYS, WE'D LIKE TO START OUR MEETINGS WITH PLEDGE TO BOTH OF OUR FLAGS.
IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE PLEDGE ALL PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
FOR HONOR, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS.
ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
YOU MAY OR NOT FORGOT MY IPAD IN HERE.
[2. Proclamations / Presentations]
WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS.AND TWO A IS CITY MANAGER ANNOUNCEMENTS.
A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR TONIGHT.
DUE TO THE HOLIDAYS, COUNCIL HAS CANCELED ITS SECOND MEETING IN DECEMBER.
TONIGHT'S MEETING WILL BE THE LAST ONE OF THE YEAR.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WELCOMING EVERYBODY BACK IN 2026.
TOWN OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON DECEMBER 24TH AND 25TH, AS WELL AS JANUARY 1ST.
TRASH COLLECTIONS THE WEEK OF CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR'S WILL SLIDE FROM THURSDAY TO FRIDAY.
AND FINALLY, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF HOLIDAY EVENTS AND SHOWS SCHEDULED THROUGHOUT THE MONTH AT THE ADDISON PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
YOU CAN GET ALL THE DETAILS@VISITADDISON.COM SLASH HOLIDAYS AND WE DO NOT HAVE AN EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION
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NIGHTMARE.THEN WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER TWO C, TOWN OF ADDISON 2025 CITIZEN ACADEMY RECOGNITION.
AND WE HAVE A FINE GROUP OF GRADUATES FROM CITIZEN ACADEMY THIS YEAR.
AND I'LL ASK Y'ALL TO MEET ME IN THE FRONT OF THE ROOM THERE UP BY THE LECTERN.
I HAVE, WE HAVE SOME CERTIFICATES FOR YOU.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED, DID Y'ALL ENJOY THE CITIZEN ACADEMY? ABSOLUTELY.
WELL, REALLY GLAD Y'ALL HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THAT.
I WENT THROUGH THAT 2009, I THINK IT WAS 2000 AROUND THAT TIME.
AND, UH, ONE OF THE BEST EXPERIENCES EVER.
THAT WAS MY, REALLY MY FIRST VENTURE INTO DOING ANYTHING IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON.
SO, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU ALL DO A LITTLE WAYS DOWN THE ROAD.
I'VE GOT SOME CERTIFICATES FOR YOU AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY MAY BE IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.
SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE GROUP PICTURES.
YOU'LL DO, LET'S DO ONE-ON-ONE PICTURE TOO, RIGHT? YOU DO.
YEAH, YEAH, WE ALL KIND OF CLUSTER FOR A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE GET THE, UH, THING BEHIND THIS NAME OF
UH, THEN WE HAVE THE ITEM NUMBER 2D, THE SALVATION ARMY OF DALLAS COUNTY RED KETTLE CAMPAIGN PROCLAMATION.
SO WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION TO READ ON THAT, AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THAT FROM HERE.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FROM THE SALVATION ARMY? GREAT.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ THE PROCLAMATION AND WE'LL PRESENT THAT.
BE PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF TOWN OF ADDISON.
WHEREAS THE OPERATION OF SALVATION ARMY IS SUPERVISED BY TRAINED COMMISSION OFFICERS WHO PROCLAIM THE GOSPEL AND SERVE AS ADMINISTRATORS, TEACHERS, SOCIAL WORKERS, COUNSELORS, YOUTH LEADERS, AND MUSICIANS DEDICATING THEIR LIVES FULLY TO SERVICE AS THEY WORK TO ADVANCE THE SALVATION ARMY'S MISSION.
AND WHEREAS VOLUNTEERS ARE CRITICAL PARTNERS IN HELPING FULFILL
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THE SALVATION ARMY'S PROMISE TO AMERICA OF DOING THE MOST GOOD.AND NEARLY 300 PEOPLE OF ALL AGES ARE DEDICATED TO VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME, TALENTS, AND RESOURCES TO MEET HUMAN NEEDS WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION THROUGH THE SALVATION ARMY OF DALLAS COUNTY.
AND WHEREAS IN DALLAS, THE SALVATION ARMY SERVES THE COMMUNITY THROUGH A 400 BED MEN'S AND WOMEN'S SHELTER, A 100 BED EMERGENCY OVERNIGHT SHELTER, POVERTY SUPPORT PROGRAMS FOR INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES, VICTIM SERVICES FOR SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEX TRAFFICKING AND A FOOD PANTRY FOR THOSE EXPERIENCING HUNGER.
AND WHEREAS THESE SERVICES ARE OFFERED FREE OF CHARGE, MADE POSSIBLE BY THE GENEROUS FINANCIAL SUPPORT OF LOCAL CITIZENS, THROUGH MOST NOTABLY THROUGH THE SALVATION ARMY'S ANNUAL RED KETTLE CAMPAIGN.
AND WHEREAS TO REACH THEIR $100,000 RED KETTLE GOAL THIS HOLIDAY SEASON, THE SALVATION ARMY OF DALLAS COUNTY SEEKS VOLUNTEERS TO FILL MORE THAN 1002 HOUR BELL RINGER SHIFTS WITH JUST TWO HOURS OF SERVICE PROVIDING A NIGHT OF SHELTER FOR 10 PEOPLE, 50 HOT MEALS OR GIFTS FOR A FORGOTTEN ANGEL.
NOW THEREFORE, I BRUCE ARFON MARY OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON ON BEHALF OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL, DO HERE HEREBY PROCLAIM THE 2025 HOLIDAY SEASON IN ADDISON AS THE SEASON TO GIVE WITH JOY TO THE SALVATION ARMY AND URGE ALL RESIDENTS TO GO TO REGISTER TO RING.COM AND PICK A DAY, TIME AND LOCATION TO VOLUNTEER AS A BELL RINGER FOR THE SALVATION ARMY AND PROVIDE HOPE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS THIS YEAR.
AND I'D LOVE TO PRESENT THIS TO THE FOLKS FROM SALVATION ARMY.
AND FOR THOSE NOT AWARE THAT WE WILL BE RINGING THE BELL IN FRONT OF THE KROGER AND ADDISON THIS SATURDAY FROM SOMETIME IN THE MORNING UNTIL FIVE OR SIX, 10 TO FIVE, 10 TO FIVE, 10 TO SIX, 10 TO SIX, 10 TO SIX.
I'M SURE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME AND RING THE BELL AND STILL BE, BE RAISING MONEY AND, AND, UH, I'LL, I'LL BE OUT OF TOWN SO I WON'T BE THERE, BUT I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT'LL BE THERE AND WE'VE GOT SOME STAFF THAT'LL BE THERE AND GET SOME, SOME RESIDENTS OUT THERE.
IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY FUN TIME TO DO THAT.
PEOPLE ARE VERY, VERY FRIENDLY TO YOU OUT THERE.
UH, SO, UH, SO I ENJOY THAT OPPORTUNITY AND WE HAVE A VIRTUAL, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO DONATE AS WELL BECAUSE WE KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE CASH ANYMORE.
SO THERE IS A WEBSITE THAT'S SET UP FOR THE TOWN FOR WHEN WE HAVE A GOAL OF $2,500 FROM THE TOWN.
AND WHEN I LOOKED EARLIER TODAY, IT WAS A LITTLE OVER $400 THAT WE'VE COLLECTED SO FAR.
IS THAT IN THE, UH, NEWSLETTER OR ANYTHING? SO LOOK, LOOK FOR THAT, THAT, THAT LINK AND, UH, YOU CAN DONATE AND I'M SURE WE'LL PUT, PUT THAT OUT AGAIN BETWEEN NOW AND SATURDAY, PROBABLY IN THE FRIDAY NEWSLETTER TOO.
UH, LOOK FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.
COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS.
CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW COUNCIL IS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
I DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, CARDS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED AHEAD OF TIME.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? ALRIGHT, SEEING
[4. Consent Agenda. All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]
NONE, WE WILL CLOSE OUT THAT ITEM, THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT INCLUDES ITEMS FOUR A AND FOUR B.
IS THERE A MOTION HERE? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOUR A AND B.
I'LL SECOND, SECOND FROM CHRIS.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[a. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving the financing and refinancing of a project for the development of airport facilities at the Addison Airport solely for the purpose of Section 147(f) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended, and Section 66.0304(11)(A) of the Wisconsin Statutes, as amended.]
LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE FINANCING AND REFINANCING OF A PROJECT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF AIRPORT FACILITIES AT THE ADDISON AIRPORT, SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF SECTION 1 47 F OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE OF 1986 AS AMENDED AND SECTION SIX 6.0304, SECTION 11 A OF THE WISCONSIN STATUTES AS AMENDED.JAMIE? HEY JAMIE, CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON?
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I WILL START AGAIN.JAMIE JOSIAH, AIRPORT DIRECTOR.
I'M HERE TO, UH, PROVIDE INFORMATION RELATED TO THIS, UH, ADDISON.
THE TOWN HAS A LONG-TERM GROUND, GROUND LEASE WITH ADDISON HANGERS, UH, WHICH IS WHOLLY OWNED BY SKY HARBOR, UH, GROUP CORPORATION.
WE ENTERED INTO A GROUND LEASE WITH THEM ON JUNE 28TH, 2022, AND THAT'S A 40 YEAR TERM, UH, LEASE.
AND THEY, THAT WAS TO REDEVELOP 6.05 ACRES THAT INCLUDED 101,000 SQUARE FEET OF EXECUTIVE HANGAR IN OFFICE SPACE, ALSO COMMONLY KNOWN AS PHASE ONE.
UM, AND THAT WAS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED THIS PAST MARCH OF 2025.
ON JANUARY 10TH, 2023, THE TOWN EXECUTED A FIRST AMENDMENT TO THAT GROUND LEASE, AND THE TENANT IS TO REDEVELOP AN ADDITIONAL 6.06 ACRES OF LAND, ALSO KNOWN AS PHASE TWO, UH, THAT THIS IS TO EXPAND THE HOME BASE EXECUTIVE CORPORATE JET HANGAR CAMPUS WITH FOUR ADDITIONAL EXECUTIVE JET HANGERS CONSISTING OF 108,320 BUILDING SQUARE FEET OF HANGAR AND OFFICE SHOP SPACE.
AND THAT CONSTRUCTION IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN NEXT MONTH, JANUARY OF 2026.
LITTLE BACKGROUND ON SKY HARBOR CORPORATION.
IT IS A NEW YORK BASED AVIATION DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, UH, THAT'S SERVING AS A HOME BASED OPERATOR FOR CORPORATE AND PRIVATE EXECUTIVE FLIGHT DEPARTMENT.
IT IS PUBLICLY TRADED ON THE NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE.
IT BUILDS PRIVATE HANGAR CAMPUSES WITH A FULL SUITE OF DEDICATED SERVICES FOR BASED AIRCRAFT.
IT HAS PROJECTS IN 20 AIRPORTS, INCLUDING HOUSTON, SUGARLAND, NASHVILLE, MIAMI, DENVER, PHOENIX, HARTFORD, TRENTON, LOS ANGELES, SAN JOSE IN SEATTLE.
SKY HARBOR'S MANAGEMENT TEAM CONSISTS OF SEASONED PROFESSIONALS WHO COMBINE AVIATION EXPERIENCE WITH A STRONG REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT PEDIGREE.
THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR SKY HARBOR CAPITAL LLC, APPARENT TO ADDISON HANGERS, LLC, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE ISSUANCE OF PRIVATE ACTIVITY BONDS, ALSO KNOWN AS PABS ISSUED BY THE PUBLIC FINANCE AUTHORITY SOLELY TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 1 4 7 F OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE OF 1986 AS AMENDED AND SECTION 66.03041 OR 11 A OF THE WISCONSIN STATUTES AS AMENDED, UH, ALSO KNOWN AS THE PFA ACT NOTE, BECAUSE THE PFA IS BASED IN WISCONSIN, THE TOWN AND SKY HARBOR MUST ABIDE BY THE WISCONSIN STATUTES DURING THIS PROCESS.
IF ANYONE HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
AND AGAIN, THE PROPOSED PHASE TWO REDEVELOPMENT IS SHOWN HERE IN THE RED, UH, SECTION.
UM, AND IT'S FOR FOUR EXECUTIVE JET HANGERS.
AGAIN, UM, IT'S 86,000 SQUARE FEET, INCLUDING 21,720 SQUARE FEET OF RELATED OFFICE AND SHOP SPACE FOR AVIATION USE.
IN, UH, AUGUST OF 2021, SKY HARBOR SECURED $166.34 MILLION IN FINANCING THROUGH THE SALE SERIES 2021 PAVS TAX EXEMPT SENIOR BONDS ISSUED VIA THE PUBLIC FINANCE AUTHORITY.
SKY HARBOR CAPITAL CONTRIBUTED $68 MILLION AS EQUITY PHASE ONE WAS COMPLETED.
UNDER THIS FINANCING STRUCTURE, SKY HARBOR PLANS TO ADD PHASE TWO TO THE SAME PROGRAM.
THE BONDS WILL BE SECURED BY THE LEASEHOLD INTEREST AND BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS OF ALL OF THE QUALIFYING PROJECTS.
THE FI AND IT'S FINANCED THROUGH THE PROGRAM BY SKY HARBOR, INCLUDING ADDISON HANGERS, LLC.
THE BOMBS WILL BE REPAID FROM THE OPERATING REVENUES FROM ALL OF THE QUALIFYING PROJECTS.
AND YOU WILL SEE A LIST AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS, UH, SLIDE WITH ALL OF THOSE QUALIFYING PROJECTS LISTED.
THE PFA WAS CREATED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO ISSUE TAX EXEMPT CONDUIT BONDS FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT BENEFIT THE PUBLIC.
THESE PBAS DO NOT CONSTITUTE DEBT LOAN OF CREDIT OR A PLEDGE OF THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF TAXING POWER OF THE TOWN OR MONETARY LIABILITY OF THE TOWN, OR CONTINGENT LIABILITY OR OBLIGATION CHARGED DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY AGAINST THE GENERAL CREDIT OF THE TOWN.
THE BOND PURCHASER GENERALLY HAS THE SAME RIGHTS AND REMEDIES AS ANY OTHER LEASEHOLD MORTGAGEE AT THE AIRPORT.
UH, AN EXAMPLE GIVEN IS THE RIGHT TO CURE TENANT LEASE DEFAULT, TAKE POSSESSION OF LEASEHOLD, AN EVENT OF A LOAN DEFAULT, THE TOWN'S OBLIGATION AS THE HOST JURISDICTION.
THE TOWN IS REQUIRED TO HOLD A PUBLIC, MEANING A PUBLIC HEARING, AND APPROVE THE ISSUANCE OF THE BONDS TO FINANCE OR REFINANCE THE PROJECT IN SATISFACTION OF SECTION 1 47 F OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE AND SECTION SIX 6.0 3 0 4 11 A OF THE WISCONSIN STATUTES WHEREBY THE PUBLIC FINANCE AUTHORITY IS AUTHORIZED TO ISSUE THE BONDS SUBJECT
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TO NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING BEING ADVERTISED ON OR BEFORE DECEMBER 2ND, 2025 AND PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN A COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION.AND WE HAVE NOW DONE BOTH OF THOSE OBLIGATIONS AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR APPROVAL OF THIS.
WITH THAT, I OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT DO WE HAVE DOWN HERE? CHRIS, CAN YOU JUST WALK ME THROUGH HOW THESE BONDS ARE ISSUED AND ARE THEY IN THE TOWN'S NAME? ARE THEY IN OUR TENANT'S NAME? UM, AND, AND OH, STEVEN'S HERE.
UH, EVENING, STEPHEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
SO THESE ARE NOT OBLIGATIONS OF THE TOWN.
UH, THEY'RE NOT IN THE TOWN'S NAME.
UM, THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE TITLED PRIVATE ACTIVITY BONDS.
SO REALLY WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, A FOR-PROFIT COMPANY IS ABLE TO USE, UH, WHAT IS TERMED A CONDUIT, WHICH IS A PUBLIC ENTITY TO ISSUE THESE BONDS.
UM, FOR THIS PURPOSE, UM, SKY HARBOR DOESN'T USE THE TOWN.
WE'RE NOT THE CONDUIT, IT'S THE, UH, PUBLIC FINANCE CORPORATION IS THEIR CONDUIT, WHICH IS, UH, YOU KNOW, ACTS AS THE, THE ISSUER IN THIS PURPOSE.
SO, UH, THE TOWN, JUST AS THE HOST JURISDICTION, HAS TO HOST THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
AND, AND I KNOW IT SAYS IT IN, IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT THERE'S NO LIABILITIES WHATSOEVER.
THIS IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM WILL FACTOR INTO ANY LIABILITIES OR CONTINGENT LIABILITIES THAT WE HAVE THAT MAY OR MANIFEST OUR BOND RATING.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THEN, SO IF OUR TENANT DOES NOT PAY, WHAT RECOURSE DO WE HAVE? OR DO WE EVEN NEED RECOURSE IF WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN ANY WAY? THIS, THIS IS, THIS WOULD NOT BE ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD, UM, SINCE WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE, IT WOULD BE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE TENANT AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SKY HARBOR.
THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS ON OUR, THEIR IMPROVEMENTS ON OUR AIRPORT.
SO IF THEY DIDN'T PAY, I MEAN, IT'S A GROUND LEASE, WE WOULD, I'M ASSUMING TAKE POSSESSION? CORRECT.
HOWEVER, THE LEASE AGREEMENT, SO I MEAN, OUR, OUR AGREEMENT WITH THEM IS OUR LEASE.
UM, SO HOWEVER THE LEASE AGREEMENT HANDLES THE, THE NON-PAYMENT, BUT NO ONE ELSE WOULD TAKE THAT AS COLLATERAL SINCE IT'S ON OUR AIRPORT.
SO REMEMBER THIS FROM PHASE ONE.
SO THIS IS BASICALLY A FORMALITY AND THAT'S, AND IT'S PRETTY CONFUSING AND IT IS, IN THE ESSENCE OF IT IS IT'S A FORMALITY.
UM, IT'S, BUT TO CHRIS'S POINT, IF, IF THEY DEFAULT ON THEIR, UH, LEASE PAYMENTS TO THE TOWN GROUND LEASE, THEN WE WOULD TAKE THE LEASE BACK.
AND WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT THE, THE BOND ISSUE, WHAT, WHERE DOES THAT STAND? WELL, ULTIMATELY, I MEAN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL GET A LITTLE BIT INTO BONDS, BUT WE'RE AAA BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA PAY OUR DEBTS, RIGHT? SO, SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SUCH A HIGH BOND RATING FOR THE TOWN BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON PROPERTY TAX.
SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECULATIVE.
SO THIS WOULD WOULD COME WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE RISK FOR THE INVESTOR.
SO THOSE INVESTORS THAT ARE BUYING THESE BONDS ULTIMATELY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE TAKING THE RISK.
SO THEY, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY JURISDICTION BACK TO THAT, THAT LEASE.
FORWARD, I'M NOT SURE WHO THIS IS DIRECTED TO.
IT MIGHT BE DIRECTED TO NICOLE, BUT ONE OF THE RESIDENTS, UM, ASKED ME ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND SAID, SINCE IT'S WISCONSIN, DO WE NEED A LEGAL OPINION OR DO WE NEED ANYTHING FROM THE TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL? I'M, I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS VERY FOREIGN TO ME.
I JUST WANNA ASK, IS, IS THAT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT? UM, NOT FOR THESE PARTICULAR BONDS.
I MEAN, IF, AS FAR AS LIKE FROM THE TEXAS PERSPECTIVE, IT WOULD BE WHAT STEVEN HAS TALKED ABOUT.
WHAT ARE, WHAT DOES OUR LEASE SAY? WHAT ARE OUR OBLIGATIONS AS A TOWN, UM, WITH, WITH THIS BEING A LEASEHOLDER, IF THE LEASEHOLDER DEFAULTS.
BUT AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL PROGRAM THROUGH THE PFC, I BELIEVE IT IS, UM, OR PFA, UH, BECAUSE IT'S CONSTRUCTED UNDER WISCONSIN STATUTES, THAT'S WHY THEY ARE REFERENCING THAT HERE.
IT REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TEXAS STATUTES.
RANDY, UH, MASTER PLAN DOES THIS FIT INTO, TO OUR CURRENT AIRPORT MASTER PLAN? AND WAS THAT CONSIDERED IT, IT WAS CONSIDERED, THIS WAS CONSIDERED, UM, IN TERMS OF THE LAST, UM, ITERATION OF THE MASTER PLAN, THE FULLY APPROVED MASTER PLAN.
UM, AND AS PART OF THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN UPDATE, WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THIS RUN.
BUT IN, UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES.
THERE, THERE WAS THIS PUT OUT TO A, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? NOT, NOT TO RQ.
WAS THIS PUT OUT TO AN RFQ AND, AND? YES.
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INTERESTED IN THIS PLOT? MY, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS YES.UM, THIS WAS DONE THROUGH AN RFQ AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE, UH, AND I'LL HAVE BILL DYER COME UP, UH, ASSISTANT AIRPORT DIRECTOR 'CAUSE HE WAS HERE, UH, WHEN THAT HAPPENED.
GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
THE COUNCIL BILL DYER, ASSISTANT AIRPORT DIRECTOR, UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IS THAT YES, IT WENT THROUGH AN RFQ PROCESS.
WE HAD, I BELIEVE IT WAS FOUR BIDDERS, BUT BEAR IN MIND WE HAVE AN EXISTING GROUND LEASE.
THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.
SO ALL THE TENANT IS ASKING TO DO IS TO FINANCE THE, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE, UM, PHASE TWO PROJECT.
IT'S ALREADY IN THE GROUND LEASE.
WE ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM.
SO, UH, ALL THAT WAS LONG ESTABLISHED, LONG AGO.
SO HE HAS, THIS COMPANY HAS THE GROUND LEASE.
THEY ALREADY HAD THE GROUND LEASE, SO THEY'RE JUST LOOKING TO BID THE GROUND LEASE ORIGINALLY WAS IN, UH, 2022.
WE AMENDED THE GROUND LEASE IN JANUARY OF 23 TO ADD PHASE TWO.
UM, AND WHICH IS THE, THE SECOND PHASE.
SO WHEN WAS THIS RFQ DONE THEN? IT HAD BEEN IN 21.
SO PRIOR TO THE, THE GRANTING OF THE, THEY GOT THE GRANT LEASE THROUGH THE RFQI GOT YOU.
I'M, I'M LIKE, HOWARD, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY WISCONSIN.
YOU KNOW THAT, THAT IT'S THE IS CURVE BALL.
I DO WANNA MAKE SURE TO CLARIFY, UM, BECAUSE I WAS HEARING MAYBE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT SHOULD THE TENANT DEFAULT.
THE, UH, PFA IS LIKE ANY OTHER BANK LENDER, OTHERWISE THEY HAVE A LIEN ON THE, ON THE, UH, COLLATERAL, WHICH WOULD BE THE AIRPORT IMPROVEMENTS MADE TO THE LAND, THE BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS.
WE HAVE A, A SUPERIOR LIEN POSITION, OTHERWISE WE HAD THE PRIMARY LIEN POSITION.
THE BANK IS SUBORDINATE TO OUR LIEN POSITION.
SO WE GIVE THE, THE BANK THE OPPORTUNITY TO REMEDY THE DEFAULT BEFORE WE TAKE POSITION.
SO THERE IS A, THE, THE BANK REALLY FOR THE TOWN IN THIS CASE, THE PFA, UM, IS REALLY AN INSURANCE POLICY.
THEY WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE PAYMENTS, UM, UH, OF THE COLLATERAL, BUT THEN, UH, SHOULD THEY DEFAULT, THEN OBVIOUSLY THEN WE WOULD STEP IN.
UM, AND ANYONE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.
STEVEN MIGHT BE THE BEST ONE FOR THIS ONE.
SO IF THERE, IN PHASE ONE, THERE WAS NO ISSUES WITH THE DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF PAUSES OR DELAYS, CORRECT? NO, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
THEY, THEY COMPLETED, UH, PHASE ONE ON TIME AND, UM, AS PERFORMED, UH, VERY WELL FOR US, WHICH, YEAH, WHICH SHOULD LEAD FOR PHASE TWO, IF YOU'RE USING THE SAME, SAME CONTRACTORS, SAME GCS? UH, NO, THEY ARE USING A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR.
THIS, UH, UH, TIME AROUND, UM, AND ERIC STOLMAN, WHO IS HERE WITH SKY AOR COULD SPEAK BETTER TO THAT IF, IF SO NEED.
UM, BUT, UM, THEY ARE PREPARED, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE, UM, CIVIL REVIEW PROCESS NOW AND FINALIZING THEIR DESIGN, UH, FOR PERMITTING PURPOSES AND, UM, ARE SCHEDULED TO BREAK AROUND IN, IN JANUARY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
AND WHAT WAS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AGAIN? YOU, YOU SAID IT IN, IN THE PRESENT DAY.
IS, IS THIS GONNA BE ONE HANGER, MULTIPLE HANGERS? MULTIPLE HANGERS.
AND WHAT WAS THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE AGAIN? SO FOR THE HANGERS THEMSELVES, IT'S 86,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND THEN THE, UH, RELATED OFFICE AND SHOP SPACE IS 21,000.
SO THE TOTAL, UH, THAT'S BEING BUILT OUT IS OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
HOW MANY ADDITIONAL AIRCRAFT ARE WE EXPECTING TO BRING INTO THIS, TO THE AIRPORT HERE, APPROXIMATELY THAT MAY BE ACTUALLY BETTER.
DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW? CAN YOU COME UP, CAN ACTUALLY HAVE TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM SKY HARBOR HERE, AND THEY'LL PROBABLY BE BETTER TO ANSWER POTENTIALLY HOW MANY AIRCRAFT ARE ESTIMATING TO BE IN THOSE HANGERS.
UH, THE, THE QUESTION WAS HOW MANY, UH, ADDITIONAL HANG, UH, AIRCRAFT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE IN THE PHASE TWO FACILITY? AND I WOULD SAY SOMEWHERE AROUND 10 TO 12 AIRCRAFT IS PROBABLY SAFE OF CORPORATE JET SIZE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT, THAT'S RIGHT.
AND THERE IS A DEMAND FOR THAT AT THIS POINT OR MORE SPACE? YEAH, WE, WE'VE HAD, UH, WE BELIEVE THERE'S STRONG DEMAND.
WE, WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL, ADDISON, WE'RE AT 20 LOCATIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
BUT ADDISON IS THE FIRST LOCATION THAT WE'VE HAD THREE GLOBAL 75 HUNDREDS, WHICH IS THE, IT'S THE TOP OF THE LINE.
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THE NEWEST, MOST EXPENSIVE BUSINESS AVIATION AIRCRAFT IN THE NATION.UM, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO GULFSTREAM AND THE OTHERS OUT THERE, BUT IT, IT, IT'S THE NEWEST OUT THERE.
SO YES, WE BELIEVE IN, IN THE MARKET HERE.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU, JAMIE? NO, SIR.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO ADDRESS THE, UH, COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM.
IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MOVE TO, UH, APPROVE ITEM FIVE, A SECOND DARREN, AND SECOND FOR MARLON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[a. Present, discuss, and consider action on a request for an Alternative Sign Design to Article 5 of the Unified Development Ordinance (UDC) for Jefferson Aero, a new multi-family complex located at 4800 Airport Parkway, in order to allow a detached monument sign to exceed the maximum height. (Case MR2025-02/4800 Airport Parkway).]
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX A PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR AN ALTERNATIVE SIGNED DESIGN TO ARTICLE FIVE OF THE UNITED UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, UDC FOR JEFFERSON ARROW, A NEW MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX LOCATED AT 4,800 AIRPORT PARKWAY IN ORDER TO ALLOW A DETACHED MONUMENT SIGN TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT CASE MR 2025 DASH 2 4800 AIRPORT PARKWAY, LESLIE.I'M DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
UM, THIS EVENING I'LL BE PRESENTING A ALTERNATIVE SIGN DESIGN REQUEST, WHICH, UM, UNDER THE FORMER CODE WAS KNOWN AS AM MERITORY EXCEPTION, WHICH I BELIEVE ALL OF YOU HAVE HEARD.
UM, PREVIOUSLY, THERE ARE SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS FROM THE, UH, MERITORY EXCEPTION TO THE ALTERNATIVE SIGN DESIGN AS IT RELATES TO THE PURPOSE STATEMENT, AS WELL AS THE CRITERIA WHICH WE WILL GO THROUGH.
UM, BUT IN TOTALITY, THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR PROCESSES WITH THE SAME INTENT, UM, WHICH IS TO PROVIDE, UM, FLEXIBILITY AND RELIEF TO OUR SIGN STANDARDS.
SO THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST IS FOR, UM, JEFFERSON ARROW.
IT'S J'S NEW, UH, MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX AT THE INTERSECTION OF AIRPORT PARKWAY AND ADDISON ROAD.
IT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
UM, RIGHT NOW, UH, IT'S ADDRESSED AS 4,800 AIRPORT PARKWAY.
UM, SO THEY ARE REQUESTING, UM, WHAT THEY'RE CALLING A MONOLITH SIGN UNDER OUR CODE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY STIPULATIONS FOR A MONOLITH SIGN.
UM, SO IT WOULD BE, UH, DEEMED A MONUMENT SIGN.
HOWEVER, UM, DUE TO ITS, UM, DIMENSIONS, UH, IT DOES EXCEED THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT FOR A SINGLE TENANT MONUMENT SIGN.
UM, SO THE PROPOSED SIGN IS TO BE LOCATED AT THE, UH, SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING WHERE, UH, VEHICLES ACCESS THE, WOULD A, THE ACCESS DRIVE TO ACCESS THE PARKING GARAGE.
SO THIS, UM, IMAGE BEFORE YOU IS THE, UM, SOUTHERN FACADE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND YOU, UH, IN THIS, UM, CONFIGURATION, THE, UH, ADDISON ROAD WOULD BE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THIS FACADE.
AND YOU SEE THE PROPOSED, UM, UH, MONOLITH SIGN, UM, DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER OF THE BUILDING.
SO HERE IS, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL PLANNED VIEWS OF THIS SIGN.
UM, IT'S, UM, ACTUAL BASE OF THE MONUMENT IS MUCH SMALLER THAN WE TYPICALLY SEE AS IT IS TALLER THAN WE TYPICALLY SEE.
UM, HENCE THE NAME MONOLITH SIGN.
UH, SO THIS SIGN IS QUITE UNIQUE TO WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE IN ADDISON.
HOWEVER, UM, IT'S NOT ABNORMAL FOR A MORE URBAN ENVIRONMENT, WHICH IS HOW THE, UM, JEFFERSON ARROW PRODUCT WAS DESIGNED UNDER THE ADDISON CIRCLE.
UM, ZONING STANDARDS KNOWN, PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS THE URBAN CENTER STANDARDS.
SO THE, AS MENTIONED, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED FOR A DETACHED MONUMENT SIGN IS SIX FEET.
UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR A SINGLE TENANT, UH, THE PROPOSED HEIGHT IS 10 FEET FOR THIS MONUMENT SIGN.
UM, THEY WILL MEET ALL THEIR STANDARDS.
SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THE ALLOWANCE FOR AREA FOR THIS PARTICULAR SIGN.
THE APPLICANT OFFERED, UM, SOME JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS ALTERNATIVE SIGN DESIGN, INCLUDING THAT THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SIGNAGE ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE ARE VERY LIMITED, UM, TO ALLOW VISIBILITY, UM, SPECIFICALLY ALONG ADDISON ROAD DUE TO SETBACKS, VISIBILITY TRIANGLES, AND SITE CONDITIONS.
UM, AND LIMIT THE, UM, ALLOWABLE AREA FOR A TRADITIONAL FOOTPRINT OF A MONUMENT SIGN.
AND THIS PROPOSED, UM, STYLE OF SIGN WILL ALLOW VEHICULAR ACCESS, UM, TO UNDERSTAND WHERE TO ACCESS THE PARKING GARAGE AND ACCESS THE SITE.
UH, 'CAUSE THERE IS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MINIMAL STREET PARKING ON ADDISON ROAD, THERE IS NO OTHER VISITOR PARKING PER SE OTHER THAN WITHIN THE GARAGE.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, UM, VISITORS AS WELL AS FUTURE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY NEED TO ACCESS THE SITE.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THE ALTERNATIVE SIGN DESIGN IS, UM, SO THAT THE SIGN REGULATIONS IS NOT THE INTENT OF THE SIGN REGULATIONS
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TO DISCOURAGE INNOVATION.UM, AND SO INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY NOT CONFORM TO OUR SIGN, UM, REGULATIONS ARE ENCOURAGED TO APPLY FOR ALTERNATIVE ALTERNATIVE SIGN DESIGN, UM, TO IDENTIFY WHERE THERE IS OBVIOUS MERIT FOR SOME, UM, DEVIATION FROM OUR CODE WHILE MAKING A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO THE VISUAL ENVIRONMENT.
SO THESE ARE THE THREE CRI CRITERIA THAT, UM, STAFF REVIEW WHEN CONSIDERING THE REQUEST.
UH, THE FIRST IS THAT, UM, IF THERE IS ANY SORT OF REASONABLE, UM, OR REASONABLE OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SIGNAGE, UM, AND IF THERE IS SOME SORT OF, UH, PERCEIVED HARDSHIP PROVIDED ON THE SITE, IF THERE IS ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES, AND THEN IF IT WILL CONFLICT WITH THE PURPOSE OF THE SIGN CODE.
SO STAFF DID THIS EVALUATION BASED UPON THE CRITERIA ON THE PROPOSED SIGN.
AND STAFF DOES AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT THAT THE ZONING STANDARDS WITHIN THE ADDISON CIRCLE ARE VERY LIMITING IN TERMS OF THEIR ABILITY TO PUT A DETACHED SIGN.
UM, ALSO WITH THE AMOUNT OF WINDOWS AND OTHER, UM, ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES ON THE BUILDING, THEY DO NOT HAVE, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR ATTACHED SIGNING ON THE BUILDING EITHER.
UM, THIS TYPE OF SIGN IS MORE TAILORED TO PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR TRAFFIC SPECIFICALLY ON ADDISON ROAD.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, I MENTIONED EARLIER THE UDC DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THIS STYLE OF SIGN LIKE A MONUMENT, OR EXCUSE ME, A MONOLITH SIGN.
AND STAFF DOES NOT ANTICIPATE ANY, UM, ADVERSE IMPACTS ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES IN RELATION TO THIS PROPOSAL.
SO STAFF, UH, IN, IN CONCLUSION, STAFF DID REVIEW THE PROPOSAL AND, UM, DETERMINED THAT IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE ALTERNATIVE SIGN DESIGN CRITERIA.
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
LESLIE MARLEY, YOU HAD A QUESTION.
UM, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT CAME TO MIND IS, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE SIGN, BUT WHAT WAS THE TYPE OF SIGN THAT, UH, THAT THE BAUMAN BUILDING CAME FORTH WITH NOW THAT THE, NOW THEY'RE CALLED THE HOUSE OF BAUMAN? YEAH.
SO IT'S LIKE A, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YEAH, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A MARQUES SIGN, RIGHT? WOULD, UH, DID YOU HAVE ANY CONVERSATIONS OR DID THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING? SO THEY STILL WOULD'VE REQUIRED, UM, A, THIS PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU? UM, BECAUSE IT WOULD'VE, UH, EXTENDED FARTHER THAN THE ALLOWABLE, UM, IT WOULD'VE PROTRUDED FOR FURTHER THAN THE ALLOWABLE DISTANCE FROM THE BUILDING.
AND DID, UM, DID THE APPLICANT HAVE, DID YOU HAVE ANY, DID THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ABOUT MAYBE THAT OPPORTUNITY? UM, WE DIDN'T REALLY DISCUSS THAT THE FOCUS WAS THIS PARTICULAR SIGN OKAY.
WOULD SERVE TWO PURPOSES, BOTH PEDESTRIAN PEOPLE WALKING TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S WHERE THE BUILDING IS, BUT ALSO VEHICULAR.
WHEREAS THE MARQUEE SIGN IS GOING TO BE MUCH, MUCH TALLER.
THAT BUILDING'S A FIVE STORY BUILDING.
UM, SO OBVIOUSLY DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU PLACE IT ON THE FACADE, AS A PEDESTRIAN, YOU'RE PROBABLY, IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, NOT AS VISIBLE IN YOUR EYESIGHT.
YEAH, I WAS JUST KINDA CURIOUS IF THEY HAD, IF THOSE DISCUSSIONS OCCURRED.
AND THEN THE OTHER, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS SOMETIMES WE, WE GET THESE AND, AND, UH, IT'S JUST A ONE ONE MERITORIOUS EXEMPTION OVER ONE SIGN, AND THEN AFTER THAT'S APPROVED, WE GET ANOTHER ONE THAT, THAT COMES LATER.
AND SO DO, DO WE THINK WE HAVE ALL THE SIGNAGE, UM, APPROVED OTHER THAN THIS FOR THIS PROJECT? YES.
SO THEY HAVE SUBMITTED, UM, THEIR, THEIR SIGN PERMIT PACKAGE AND THIS WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT DID NOT COMPLY WITH THE STANDARDS WITHIN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR SIGNS.
AND, UM, SO THAT, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANY POTENTIAL FUTURE SIGNS THAT THEY MAY WANNA ADD, BUT AT THIS TIME, THEIR SIGNED PACKAGE, THIS WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT DID NOT COMPLY.
UH, I THINK YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A BLADE SIGN THAT YES.
UM, BAUMAN HAD, SO MY QUESTION IS, UM, AND YOU KNOW, I'M ALL PRO SIGNS.
SO THIS ONE, THIS BUILDING, AS I APPROACH THAT CORNER OR TURN THAT CORNER, THE BUILDING IS AWFULLY CLOSE TO THE STREET.
AND SO I, I CAN'T TELL FROM THE DRAWING.
I'M LOOKING, LOOKING AT NUMBER SLIDE THREE.
UM, IS IT IS, YOU DON'T SEE ANY, EXCUSE ME, YOU DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH TRAFFIC, HOW CLOSE THAT IS TO THE STREET.
I THINK WE EVEN HAD AN ISSUE WITH DART THAT THEY COULDN'T TURN A BUS ON THAT CORNER.
SO I, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH BUSES, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S AWFULLY CLOSE TO THE STREET.
SO HAS THAT BEEN ADDRESSED? MM-HMM
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE PLAN VIEW ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN THERE IS ON SLIDE FOUR, THE, UM,
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SIGN ITSELF IS KIND OF SHOWN IN ORANGE.AND THOSE, A LOT OF THOSE DASH LINES YOU SEE ARE THE VISIBILITY TRIANGLE AS WELL AS THE FIRE LANE AND THE RADII, THE TURNING RADII FOR A A VEHICLE.
SO, UM, WE USE A WB 50 FOR OUR TURNING RADII, WHICH IS A RADII OF 20 FEET.
AND THESE, UM, TURNING RADII DO COMPLY WITH THAT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE THE BIGGEST, UH, TURNING RADI YOU WOULD NEED FOR, EVEN FOR ADDISON'S LARGEST, UM, FIRE APPARATUS.
SO ALL OF THAT WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
SO YOU DON'T SEE IT COME CAUSING ANY PROBLEM WITH MAKING THAT TURN AND A BLADE SIGN RIGHT WHERE THIS MONUMENT SIGN IS.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS NOT CONSIDERED OR THAT WAS DISCUSSED OR IS, IS IT NOT FACED THE RIGHT WAY IF THEY TRY AND PUT A BLADE THERE? YEAH.
SO THAT WAS NOT CONSIDERED BY THE APPLICANT? NO, THEY WERE LOOKING, THE INTENT WAS A SIGN THAT WAS, UH, BOTH PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR FOCUSED.
UM, AND THIS WAS THE, THE PROPOSAL.
SO WAS THIS THE APPLICANT'S CHOICE OF THE SIGN, THEIR FIRST CHOICE? CORRECT.
SO WE DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY SECOND CHOICES OR CONCESSIONS OR THIS IS WHAT THEY WANTED? NOT FOR THIS PARTICULAR SIGN.
UM, WE, SOME OF THE OTHER SIGNS WE WORKED WITH THEM ON.
UM, I CAN'T TELL FROM THE DRAWING HOW WIDE THE SIDEWALK IS.
DOES THE SIDEWALK GO AROUND THE SIGN? NO.
SO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF, OR EXCUSE ME, THE, THE IMAGE, THE PLAN VIEW ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, UM, YOU SEE THE CROSSWALK, WHICH IS THE PAVERS? YES.
SO THAT IS THE WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALK.
UM, SO RIGHT UNDER THE BLUE MEASUREMENT IT SAYS 10 FEET AND THAT'S THE WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALK.
SO THIS SIGN IS ACTUALLY, UM, PROTRUDE, THE BUILDING ACTUALLY PROTRUDES BEYOND THE LOCATION OF THE SIGN BECAUSE THERE'S A NOTCH OUT IN THAT CORNER OF THE BUILDING AND IT KIND OF SITS WITHIN THAT NOTCH OUT OF THE BUILDING.
UM, SO, AND ALSO TO THE, WHAT WOULD BE THE WEST, EXCUSE ME, THE EAST OF THE MONOLITH SIGN, UM, OR THE, THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
IN THIS PLAN VIEW, THOSE WHITE BOXES THAT YOU SEE, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY TRANSFORMERS FOR THE BUILDING.
SO, UM, THERE IS VERY LITTLE AREA THAT THEY COULD FIT A SIGN, LIKE I WOULD SAY IN, IN THE BALLPARK OF SIX SQUARE FEET WHERE THEY COULD EVEN RE REASONABLY PLACE A SIGN.
UM, AND SO, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY LIMITED BY THE VISIBILITY TRIANGLES AND THE TURNING RADI THAT, THAT HOWARD MENTIONED.
UH, SO THERE WAS VERY, VERY LITTLE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANY SORT OF DETACHED SIGN, WHICH IS WHY YOU GOT THE FOOTPRINT OF ABOUT, I THINK IT'S JUST OVER LIKE ONE AND A HALF BY ONE AND A HALF FEET.
UM, JUST A SIDE NOTE ON, ON THE NEW UDC WITH SANDY, THE SIGN, UM, CHANGES IN THERE.
DID THAT FACILITATE THIS BETTER OR WAS IT NO CHANGE OR, UM, IT WAS MUCH BETTER FOR THE ATTACHED SIGNS.
UM, AS I MENTIONED THE OTHER, SO THE UNDER THE OLD, THE FORMER CODE, UM, THE OTHER ATTACHED SIGNS WOULD HAVE REQUIRED AM MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION.
UM, AND SO WITH THIS, THE NEW CODE, THEY WERE ONLY REQUIRED THE ONE.
WHY, WHY IS THIS BEFORE US? IS IT THE TYPE OF SIGN OR THE SIZE OF THE SIGN? IT'S THE HEIGHT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD YOU TO SAY IT.
WHY DID THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEEDED 10 FEET OVER SIX TEN'S? A PRETTY DOGGONE BIG SIGN? YEAH.
SO, UM, IT WAS MORE OF THE LETTERING BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE LETTERS.
'CAUSE AS YOU SHRINK IN TERMS OF PROPORTION, YOUR FONT SIZE GETS SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER, PRETTY, PRETTY QUICK.
UM, PROPORTIONATE TO THE SIGN WITH FOUR LETTERS, SIX FEET IS
THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY GOOD SIZED LETTER AT THAT.
WHAT TYPE OF ILLUMINATION IS THIS? DOES THIS HAVE, SO IT'S AN INTERNAL, UM, CABINET ILLUMINATION.
SO THE LETTERS WILL BE ILLUMINATED THEMSELVES.
WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS GONNA BE DISTRACTING TO DRIVERS OR, YOU KNOW, I, I'M IN THE SAME BOAT AS HOWARD WAS ON, ON THE TURNING RADIUS.
I THINK WE MADE A HUGE MISTAKE ON THIS PROPERTY TO BEGIN WITH.
LETTING 'EM BE SO CLOSE TO THE STREET.
UH, THIS IS NOT GOING TO CREATE ANY PROBLEMS THERE.
YOU, YOU, YOU, I WAS CONCERNED WITH FIRE APPARATUS AND YOU MENTIONED FIRE APPARATUS.
SO YOU ANSWERED THAT QUESTION PREEMPTIVELY FOR ME.
UH, BUT WE'RE, IT'S NOT GONNA REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE SIDEWALK OR NOPE.
PEOPLE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO RIDE THE BIKES DOWN THE SIDEWALKS AND THINGS.
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W WHEN WE GO FROM SIX FEET TO 10 FEET MM-HMM.THAT'S A SUB, UH, A SUBSTANTIAL PERCENTAGE INCREASE.
WAS THERE ANY COMPROMISE GAIN WITH ANY OTHER SIZE? OR IS THIS JUST WHAT THEY CAME WITH? UM, SO THIS IS WHAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSED.
THE, A MULTI-TENANT SIGN DOES HAVE A MAX HEIGHT OF, UM, EIGHT FEET.
A SINGLE TENANT IS SIX FEET, AND THEN A, A DETACHED POLE SIGN, WHICH TECHNICALLY THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED TO HAVE IS 20 FEET.
SO GRANTED NOW A POLE SIGN IS NOT, UM, AS APPROPRIATE WITH THIS STYLE OF DEVELOPMENT IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
UM, SO WHILE THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT TO HAVE A PULL SIGN, THIS IS, UM, I'M GONNA SAY A HYBRID BETWEEN THE TWO THAT OUR CODE DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR, UM, TO FIT WITH THE STYLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT'S WHY STAFF FELT LIKE IT WASN'T INAPPROPRIATE.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, OUR CODE JUST DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THIS SORT OF INNOVATION WITH THIS STYLE OF SIGN.
YOU, YOUR BODY LANGUAGE KIND OF ALLUDED TO IT THERE.
THE REST OF THEIR SIGNAGE THAT WE DON'T GET TO SEE, OBVIOUSLY NO NEED TO SEE IT.
THIS OBVIOUSLY FITS WITHIN THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN PHILOSOPHY.
YEAH, SO THE OTHER SIGNS AROUND THE CORNER TO THE NORTH SIDE OR TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING ARE SIMILAR TO THIS, JUST SMALLER IN SCALE.
SO THIS IS THE ONLY DETACHED SIGN ON THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY OTHER DETACHED SIGNS.
UM, AND FRANKLY, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THERE WOULD PUT ANY OTHER DETACHED SIGNS.
IT'S VERY, VERY TIGHT IN TERMS OF, OF, UM, ALLOWABLE, UM, GROUND AREA TO PUT DETACHED SIGNS.
UM, AND SO ALL THE OTHER SIGN SIGNAGE IS ATTACHED TO THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING WITH THE PRIMARY, UM, SIGNAGE BEING AT THE HARD CORNER OF ADDISON, UH, ROAD AND AIRPORT PARKWAY AT THE NORTH.
UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE BUILDING.
AND THAT'S ALSO THEIR LEASING OFFICE IS RIGHT AROUND THAT CORNER.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I KNOW, I KNOW THE CORNER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YEAH, THAT'S THE, WHERE THE SIGNAGE IS, IS FOCUSED.
SO THEN WITH EVERYTHING FALLS WITHIN SIX FEET OR LESS IN TERMS OF HEIGHT.
SO THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT IS FOR DETACHED SIGNS SPECIFICALLY, BUT ALL THOSE OTHER SIGNS I REFERENCED, UM, THEY ALL COMPLY WITH THE CODE.
THERE IS, THEY, THEY DON'T NEED ANY, THEY'RE ACTUALLY BELOW THE MAXIMUM.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET THERE.
THERE'S NOT A 10 FOOT SIGN ON THE, AROUND THE CORNER TO THESE SIDE.
AND THIS WOULD BE SMALLER IN SCALE TO, TO RANDY'S POINT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
SO I HAVE, CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE THREE JUST FOR A SECOND? OKAY.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE SIGN IS ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT'S ON, UH, ADDISON ROAD.
IS THAT RIGHT? IT'S TECHNICALLY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, BUT, BUT YES, IT'S ALONG ADDISON ROAD.
SO IT, I MEAN, IT, IT, IT, AM I CORRECT IN THE, THAT LITTLE VERTICAL RED THAT'S AIRPORT ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD? WE'RE AT THE CORNER, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, UH, YOU SEE ADDISON ROAD IS DRAWN IN THERE.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS BUILDING, YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE SOUTH FROM THE SOUTH.
BUT YOU, YOU ARE, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DECEPTIVE 'CAUSE YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO ACTUALLY SEE THIS VIEW BECAUSE THERE'S DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH.
BUT THIS IS NOT TAKING INTO ANYTHING EDISON ROAD'S HERE.
YOU'RE LOOKING NORTH AT THE SOUTH SIDE.
SO I, BECAUSE I'M, I'M JUST, I'M SORRY.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TWO SIGNS.
THERE'S ONE ON, LIKE, I'M LOOKING AT THE ONE ON THE RIGHT THAT SAYS ARROW.
AND THEN WHEN I LOOK AT THE ONE TO THE LEFT, THAT LEFT BUILDING, WHY AM I SEEING A BUILDING BEHIND THE SIGN WHERE IT SAYS, JEFFERSON, HOW'S THE BUILDING BEHIND THE SIGN? BOTH DIRECTIONS, BECAUSE THERE'S THE, THERE'S A NOTCH IN THE BUILDING.
SO IT'S LIKE IF IT WAS A 90 DEGREE ANGLE, THERE'S A CHUNK TAKEN OUT.
SO IT'S SET BACK INTO THE BUILDING.
SO IT'S NOT STICKING OUT ON THE SIDEWALK.
SO THEN THAT'S WHY WHEN I LOOK AT THAT ONE WAY OVER ON THE LEFT, IT'S NOT ON THE SIDEWALK.
IT IS, IT'S, I, I THINK I UNDER, SO IT'S NOT ENCROACHING IN THE CORNER.
THAT'S ALL I'M WONDERING ABOUT IS NO, NO, IT'S ACTUALLY, SO IT'S SET BACK.
OKAY, MARLIN? YEAH, I, I WOULD ADD, I WAS DISORIENTED ALSO, UM, UNTIL YOU POINTED THIS OUT.
SO BASICALLY IF YOU GO TO SLIDE THREE, LIKE YOU SAID OVER THERE, WAY OVER THERE ON THE LEFT.
SO BA THIS IS SOMETHING I WOULD SEE IF I'M DRIVING NORTHBOUND ON ADDISON ROAD.
I WOULD SEE IT AS I'M, IT'D BE BLOCKED OUT BY SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, BUT WHEN I GOT CLOSER TO IT, I'D, I'D SEE IT.
SO THIS IS NOT AS, I MEAN THE POWER LINES ARE
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PRETTY CLOSE TO THERE, BUT, BUT IT'S, IT'S, I GET IT.YEAH, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD SEE IT WITH SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC OR IF YOU'RE SOUTHBOUND ON ASTON ROAD, YOU WOULD SEE IT, BUT IT WOULDN'T BECOME, IT WOULDN'T BE VISIBLE FROM A GREAT DISTANCE AWAY.
IT WOULD BE WHEN YOU WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN THE LAST LAST QUESTION IS ON THESE, UH, ON THE NEW UDC WITH THE SIGNAGE ILLUSTRATIONS AND, AND WHAT, WHAT IS ALREADY ACCEPTABLE? UM, IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY THAT, THAT WE DO HAVE BLADE SIGN OFFERINGS? UM, WE JUST DIDN'T BEFORE THE BAUMAN, UH, SITUATION.
SO, SO IS THERE SOMETHING THERE THAT SAYS ILLUSTRATES, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN DO IN ADDISON? SO THERE ARE BLADE SIGN ALLOWANCES ARE NOT NECESSARILY INTENDED FOR PRIMARY SIGNAGE.
THEY'RE MORE FOCUSED ON, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF A GOOD EXAMPLE.
UM, I GUESS IN ADDISON CIRCLE, UM, WHERE YOU'RE WALKING TO HAVE SMALLER INDIVIDUAL TENANT BLADE SIGNS, NOT LIKE ONE LARGE BLADE SIGN.
WELL, YEAH, IT MIGHT, IT'S MORE OF A YES OR NO.
QUE SO IS IT IN, IS IS THERE IS AN ILLUSTRATION IN THE UDC OF A BLADE SIGN SO THAT PEOPLE COULD SEE IT AND, AND, AND KNOW THAT, THAT THAT'S AN OPTION? UM, IT IS THERE, I DON'T BELIEVE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN ILLUSTRATION PER SE, BUT IT IS AN ALLOWANCE WITHIN OUR UDC.
IT'S JUST NOT, UM, I BELIEVE THE AREA, THE MAXIMUM AREA ALLOTTED WITHIN THE UDC WOULD NOT, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY IT WOULD BE A HINDRANCE, BUT IT WOULD LIKE, IT WOULD LEAD, LIKELY LEAD TO A, UM, A PROPERTY OWNER OR BUSINESS OWNER NEEDING AN ALTERNATIVE SIGN DESIGN.
BECAUSE IT ENCOURAGES A SMALLER BLADE SIGN.
SO, 'CAUSE LESLIE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS REALLY JUST TO HELP GUIDE VEHICLES AND POSSIBLY PEDESTRIANS INTO THAT SOUTH DRIVEWAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, RIGHT? CORRECT.
'CAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT, SO THERE IS ONLY ONE ACCESS INTO THE PARKING GARAGE FOR THIS BUILDING.
LIKE I SAID, I BELIEVE THERE'S SEVEN STREET PARKING SPACES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS ON AIRPORT PARKWAY.
AND THOSE ARE PUBLIC PARKING SPACES.
'CAUSE THERE ARE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THEY, THE, THE APPLICANT, UM, OR THE, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX CANNOT, UM, MANAGE THOSE IN TERMS OF WHO CAN PARK THERE OR NOT.
THEY'RE PUBLIC PARKING SPACES.
SO THEY'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, SO WITH THE, THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT IS THAT IF SOMEONE NEW IS APPROACHING THE FACILITY OR GOING FOR A TOUR, THEY HAVE REALLY ONE GUARANTEED PLACE TO PARK.
AND THAT IS IN THE PARKING GARAGE, WHICH IS THE ACCESS.
YOU SEE, UM, KIND OF AT THE, THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD, YOU WOULD HAVE TO ACCESS, UM, YOU'D HAVE TO TURN, SORRY, AND TO THIS DRIVEWAY YOU SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE AND GO DOWN WHAT IS PERCEIVED AS AN ALLEY OR A FI IN A FIRE LANE.
UM, AND THEN ACCESS THE GARAGE.
SO THIS IS REALLY KIND OF AN INDICATOR.
UM, IT'S ALSO VERY, UM, VISIBLE AND A MONUMENT FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, TURN AT THE MON MONOLITH SIGN OR TURN AT THE MM-HMM
UM, AND THAT'S HOW YOU'LL ACCESS OUR PARKING GARAGE.
SO THAT, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY FIND THAT ENTRANCE AND, AND WHICH TO ME MAKES SENSE, MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THAT MORE PROMINENT SIZE.
'CAUSE SIX FOOT WOULD BE PRETTY EASY TO MISS 10 FOOT, NOT AS MUCH.
UH, TO HOWARD'S POINT, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP HOWARD, THAT THAT CLARIFIED IT FOR ME WITH IT BEING SETBACK.
DID THIS HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANY OTHER PROCESS? B-Z-A-P-N-Z? NO ONE ELSE HAS JUST COME STRAIGHT TO US FOR THAT.
YEAH, SO THE PROCESS THAT IS ESTABLISHED FOR, UM, WHICH WAS FOR MERITORIOUS EXCEPTIONS AS WELL, WHICH IS THE SAME FOR ALTERNATIVE SIGN DESIGN, IS A, THEY REQUEST THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT, WHICH ALSO PERMITS SIGNS AND THEN IT COMES DIRECTLY TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
IT DOES NOT GO TO ANY OTHER BOARDS.
SO I DON'T NEED TO ASK HOW THEY RULED ON IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE SIX A.
THANK YOU HOWARD FOR THE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[b. Present, discuss, and consider action on a request for an Alternative Sign Design to Article 5 of the Unified Development Ordinance (UDC) for Quorum II shopping center, located at 4900 Belt Line Road, in order to allow a detached monument sign to exceed the maximum height and maximum area. (Case MR2025-03/4900 Belt Line Road).]
SIX B PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR AN ALTERNATIVE SIGNED DESIGN TO ARTICLE FIVE OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE.YOU UDC FOR QUORUM TWO SHOPPING CENTER LOCATED AT 4,900 BELTLINE ROAD IN ORDER TO ALLOW A DETACHED MONUMENT SIGN TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT AND MAXIMUM AREA CASE.
MR 2025 DASH 0 3 4900 BELTLINE ROAD.
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DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.UM, BEFORE YOU IS ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE SIGN DESIGN REQUEST, UM, FOR ANOTHER PROPERTY, UH, 4,900 BELTLINE ROAD.
THIS IS THE QUORUM TWO RETAIL CENTER.
UM, IT'S AN EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER.
UM, THERE IS A NEW PROPERTY OWNER, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND HAS, UM, HAD A DESIRE TO MAKE SOME INVESTMENT ON THE PROPERTY, UM, INCLUDING SOME FACADE IMPROVEMENTS.
ONE OF THAT, ONE OF THOSE, UH, REINVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES IS TO REPLACE THE EXISTING, UM, POLE SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY.
THERE ARE TWO THAT CURRENTLY EXIST TODAY.
UM, SO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING IS, UH, TO REPLACE BOTH OF THOSE.
UM, AND THIS IS A BIT OF A HYBRID POLE SLASH MONUMENT SIGN THAT, ONCE AGAIN, OUR CODE DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THIS TYPE OF INNOVATION.
UM, AND SO WITH THAT, THIS WOULD REQUIRE THE ALTERNATIVE SIGN DESIGN FOR TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT AND MAXIMUM AREA ALLOTTED.
SO, UM, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN THERE.
THESE ARE THE TWO EXISTING, UM, PULL MULTI-TENANT POLE SIGNS WHICH EXIST ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, BOTH OF THEM ARE PROPOSED TO BE REPLACED IN THE SAME LOCATION.
THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO, TO MOVE THE LOCATION OF THESE.
UM, JUST TO, I WANNA POINT OUT ON BELTLINE, UM, VISIBILITY IS NOT, THEY ARE SET BACK, BUT VISIBILITY IS NOT OF GREAT CONCERN, UM, WITH WHERE THEY ARE BECAUSE BELTLINE, THERE IS A MEDIAN AT THIS LOCATION.
AND SO ALL TRAFFIC CANNOT TURN, UH, WHAT WOULD BE WESTBOUND.
THEY'RE FORCED TO TURN EASTBOUND.
SO, UH, WHEN A, WHEN A VEHICLE, IT LOOKS A LITTLE, UH, DECEIVING HERE 'CAUSE THE MEDIANS AREN'T SHOWN ON THIS PLAN.
UM, BUT WHEN A VEHICLE IS, UH, EXITING THE SITE AT EITHER OF THESE ENTRANCES, THEY ONLY NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT EASTBOUND TRAFFIC AT THAT LOCATION BECAUSE THEY CANNOT TURN WESTBOUND.
SO I JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT.
UM, SO HERE'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER IMAGE OF THOSE EXISTING, UM, THOSE EXISTING POLE SIGNS WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSED TO BE REPLACED IN THE SAME LOCATION.
UM, SO ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE YOU SEE THE PROPOSAL FOR THE NEW MULTI-TENANT MONUMENT SIGNS.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WHILE WE'VE SEEN EXAMPLES OF THIS ELSEWHERE IN ADDISON, UM, IS NOT SOMETHING OUR CODE ACCOUNTS FOR, UH, WHICH IS A SIGN THAT HAS A LOT OF ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS IN IT.
UM, INCLUDING THE, WE HAVE, UM, THE MASONRY BASE WITH THE, UM, WHAT IS SHOWN HERE AS THE DARK BROWN OR BLACK KIND OF WRAP AROUND THE SIGN CABINET TO ADD ADDITIONAL FEATURES, UM, AND ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST.
SO WHY THIS SIGN DOES REQUIRE A MERITORY SUCCESS, EXCUSE ME, AN ALTERNATIVE SIGN DESIGN IS, UH, BECAUSE IT DOES, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THIS FOR A MONUMENT SIGN, IT DOES EXCEED THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT AS WELL AS AREA.
SO THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR A MONUMENT SIGN MULTI-TENANT MONUMENT SIGN IS EIGHT FEET.
THE PROPOSED HEIGHT IS 20, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH A POLE SIGN.
HOWEVER, THE, UM, BASE AND THE CONSTRUCTION IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH A POLE SIGN.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THAT GETS A LITTLE CONFUSING.
OH, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S KIND OF A HYBRID OF THE TWO STANDARDS.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPO, THE REQUIRED AREA, A MAXIMUM AREA FOR A MULTI-TENANT POLE SIGN, EXCUSE ME, A MULTI-TENANT MONUMENT SIGN IS 72 SQUARE FEET AND THE PROPOSAL IS 190.
AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHY THAT DISCREPANCY EXISTS.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THIS, UM, AS THEY DESIRE A MORE ARCHITECTURAL, MORE ARCHITECTURALLY INTERESTING SIGN AND APPEALING SIGN, THEY ARE MAKING REINVESTMENT IN THE PROPERTY AND FEEL THAT THIS HIGH QUALITY DESIGN IS REPRESENTATIVE OF, OF WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO TO REVITALIZE THE RETAIL CENTER.
SO WHY THE AREA IS, UM, SO DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT IS DUE TO OUR STANDARDS FOR HOW WE MEASURE AREA.
SO A SIGN AREA IS CAL CALCULATED BASED UPON THE TOTAL, UM, SIZE OF ALL ELEMENTS, INCLUDING ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES.
SO IT DOES NOT JUST INCLUDE THOSE AREAS WHICH ARE ADVERTISING.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MULTI-TENANT SIGN, THE ONLY AREAS WHICH WILL TRULY BE ADVERTISING BUSINESSES IS WITHIN THE SIGN CABINET.
UH, YOU SEE THOSE, THE WHITE, UM, UM, SLOTS FOR THE, UH, TENANTS TO BE ADVERTISED THEIR BUSINESS.
HOWEVER, THAT AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 75 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH OUR MAXIMUM AREA.
BUT BECAUSE OF HOW OUR CODE IS WRITTEN IN TERMS OF THE STANDARDS FOR SIGN MEASUREMENTS, IT DOES HAVE TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, WHICH IN THIS CASE DOES INCLUDE THE BORDER AROUND THE SIGN CABINET
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AS WELL AS THE MASONRY BASE.SO ONCE AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROCESS, THIS ALTERNATIVE DESIGN PROCESS IS NOT TO HINDER INNOVATION, UM, BUT TO REVIEW ALTERNATIVE OPPORTUNITIES, UM, WHERE THEY HAVE MERIT, UM, BUT ALSO MAKE A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO THE VISUAL ENVIRONMENT.
SO STAFF DID, UM, ONCE AGAIN, UH, REVIEW THE CRITERIA AND STAFF DOES AGREE THAT, UM, THIS DOES WARRANT AN ALTERNATIVE SIGN DESIGN.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, I JUST MENTIONED THE SIGN CABINET.
THE ADVERTISING AREA IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR MULTI-TENANT SIGNS.
UM, HOWEVER, DUE TO HOW WE MEASURE SIGNS, THAT REALLY LIMITS ANY ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES THAT IMPROVE THE AESTHETIC OF THE VISUAL ENVIRONMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, THE UDC DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR ANY SORT OF HYBRID, UM, POLE OR MONUMENT SIGN OR POLE SIGNS DO REQUIRE THAT THEY EITHER HAVE ONE EIGHT BY EIGHT POLE ROUND OR, UM, SQUARE, I GUESS OR TWO.
SO THEY WOULD NOT REQUIRE THAT SPACE WITHIN THAT POLE TO BE FILLED IN, IF YOU WILL, EVEN BY A MASONRY.
AND THEN LASTLY, UH, STAFF DOES NOT ANTICIPATE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS TO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES WITH THIS REQUEST.
I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, CHRIS, LESLIE, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, MAYBE I MISSED IT, BUT WHAT'S THE HEIGHT RIGHT NOW OF THE EXISTING SIGN? THE HEIGHT RIGHT NOW IS 20 FEET.
AND THEN, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT BOTH HEIGHT 20 VERSUS EIGHT, AND THEN AREA 190 VERSUS 72.
YOU CALLED IT THE ADVERTISING AREA.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE ADVERTISING AREA IS RIGHT NOW IN THE EXISTING SIGN OF THE, THE EXISTING SIGNS? EXISTING SIGNS? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT AREA, BUT I WOULD YOU, SOMETHING WOULD YOU THINK IT'S CLOSE? I WOULD GUESS IT'S APPROXIMATELY 75 FEET.
BECAUSE WHEN THEY, UM, THEY LIKELY MAX OUT THEIR AREA, THEIR ADVERTISING AREA I WOULD ASSUME.
WELL, I'M REAL EXCITED THAT LAST MILE RETAIL ACQUIRED THIS CENTER.
UM, I THINK THEY'RE DOING SOME GREAT THINGS WITH IT.
UM, I'M, I'M FINE WITH THE SIGN.
UM, YEAH, LESLIE, THIS LOOKS VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO THE PRESTONWOOD PLACE.
SIGN AND HEIGHT WISE, IS IT ABOUT THE SAME HEIGHT AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN PRESTONWOOD PLACE? YEAH, SO I CAN'T, UM, SO I'LL SAY THAT OUR MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR ALMOST ALL SIGNS IS 20 FEET.
I THINK WE HAVE, UH, THERE IS VERY LITTLE ALLOWANCE FOR ANYTHING TALLER THAN THAT, UH, FOR A DETACHED SIGN.
UM, SO I BELIEVE PRESTONWOOD IS, IS ALSO 20 FEET.
THIS, THIS LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY THING DIFFERENT THAT I'M SEEING FROM THE PRESTONWOOD PLACE SIGN IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF THE ARCHITECTURE AT THE BOTTOM.
SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT, UM, NO, THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.
UM, QUICK QUESTION TO MY, I'M SEEING THIS CORRECT, THAT HE'S GONNA ALLOW FOR MORE BUSINESSES TO ADVERTISE.
IF I'M READING THE CABINET RIGHT TO 11 FROM NINE, THE, FROM NINE TO 11, IT IS INCREASING NINE TO 11, CORRECT? CORRECT.
I BELIEVE THERE'S, GRANTED THIS COULD CHANGE 'CAUSE THEY COULD SUBDIVIDE OR COMBINE SUITES, BUT THERE'S APPROXIMATELY, I BELIEVE 12 OR 13 BUSINESSES THAT EXIST TODAY.
UM, SO YEAH, IT WILL ALLOW ADDITIONAL, UM, BUSINESSES TO BE, UM, ADVERTISED ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH I KNOW, UM, IS SOMEWHAT OF A CHALLENGE 'CAUSE SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES ARE KIND OF TUCKED BEHIND THERE, ESPECIALLY BEHIND THE TWO STORY BUILDINGS.
CHIRO SPORT BEING ONE OF THEM.
I WAS WONDERING WHY THEY WEREN'T ON THERE.
AND YES, I WOULD AGREE WITH CHRIS.
I, I'M THRILLED TO SEE THE PROGRESS OF THE PLAZA, THE LIGHTING, THE REPAVING, AND THE, UH, JUST THE, THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE PROCESS OF THAT, THAT PLAZA.
SO I WAS GONNA SAY TO CHRIS, I THINK, I THINK, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S JUST SAID IT, DAN, I COUNTED 'EM TOO.
SO NINE TO 11, I THINK THE CABINET'S BIGGER FOR THE NEW SIGN.
AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL SIGNAGE, I, MY QUESTION IS ABOUT VISIBILITY.
UM, I'M LOOKING AT THE SLIDE THREE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE CARS THROUGH THE BOTTOM.
AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SLIDE FOUR, IT'S SOLID.
SO I, I GUESS BY THE POSITION OF THE CARS IN LINE THREE, WHEN SOMEONE'S TRYING TO EXIT THE PROPERTY, THIS MONUMENT'S BEHIND THEM, RIGHT? THAT IS SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT OBSTRUCTING.
AND YOU SAID THEY CAN ONLY TURN RIGHT? SO THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING LEFT.
SO ON, IN BOTH ENTRANCES ARE THE SIGNS TO THE RIGHT? CORRECT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY WEREN'T OBSTRUCTING.
I THINK THEY LOOK MUCH BETTER.
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'EM IMPROVING THE PROPERTY AS WELL.I THINK SO DARREN, HOW WIDE IS THE EXISTING SIGN? I BELIEVE THE EXISTING SIGN IS APPROXIMATELY, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S EIGHT AND A HALF TO NINE FEET IN WIDTH.
SO THE NEW ONE'S A LITTLE, UH, WIDER ALSO.
THE, THE BASE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE WIDER BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE WIND RESISTANCE ON THE NEW SIGN IS GOING.
THE, THE FOUNDATION OR THE, THE FOUNDATION OF THE NEW SIGN IS GOING TO BE, HAVE TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE, SUBSTANTIALLY MORE SUBSTANTIAL, I GUESS.
I DON'T, UH, BECAUSE OF THE WIND RESISTANCE AND JUST THE, THE, THE SHEER QUANTITY, UM, OF, OF ELEMENTS AS OPPOSED TO THE POLE SIGN.
I THINK Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB.
I THINK THE, UH, APPLICANT'S DONE A GREAT JOB.
I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT BEING UPGRADED.
UH, IT'S JUST A BIG UPGRADE FROM THAT PREVIOUS SIGN.
ANYTHING ELSE? IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE SIX B.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
OPPOSED? ITEM SIX B IS APPROVED.
[c. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution nominating four (4) citizens to serve on the Planning & Zoning Commission for two-year terms commencing January 1, 2026, and providing an effective date.]
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX C.PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION.
NOMINATING FOUR CITIZENS TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TWO YEAR TERMS, COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2026, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
VALENCIA MAYOR AND COUNCIL VALENCIA GARCIA, CITY SECRETARY HERE TO DISCUSS, UM, THE 2026 NOMINATIONS FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
SO HISTORICALLY, COUNCIL REVIEWS OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MEMBERSHIPS, UM, TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS.
DURING THE LAST QUARTER OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, NOTIFICATIONS WERE MADE TO THE COMMUNITY INFORMING INDIVIDUALS INTERESTED IN SERVING ON PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UM, THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY.
LIKEWISE, CURRENT COMMISSIONERS WITH EXPIRING TERMS WERE NOTIFIED AND ASKED TO SUBMIT A NEW APPLICATION IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEEK REAPPOINTMENT.
UH, THE APPLICATION DEADLINE WAS DECEMBER 2ND, 2025.
COUNSEL'S BEEN PROVIDED WITH A COMPLETE LIST OF THE APPLICANTS AND THEIR RESPECTIVE APPLICATIONS.
UM, SO THIS YEAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS FOUR COMMISSIONERS.
WITH TERMS EXPIRING ON DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR, COMMISSIONERS CAN SERVE UP TO THREE CONSECUTIVE TWO YEAR TERMS AND THE NEXT TERM OF SERVICE BEGINS IN 2026, UH, JANUARY, 2026, AND EXPIRES IN DECEMBER OF 2027.
SO HERE WE CAN SEE, UM, PLACES FOUR THROUGH SEVEN.
UM, THE CURRENT COMMISSIONER WITH TERMS, UM, EXPIRING THIS YEAR AT THE PREVIOUS NOMINATING COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE NEXT NOMINATING COUNCIL MEMBER.
UM, SO TO MAKE OUR 2026 NOMINATIONS, UM, EACH NOMINATING COUNCIL MEMBER MUST MAKE AN INDIVIDUAL MOTION FOR THEIR NOMINATION.
UM, SO TONIGHT WE'LL HAVE MAYOR ATON, MAYOR PROTO PORT WILLISON, COUNCIL MEMBER LISIO, AND COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH, UM, MAKING NOMINATIONS.
AND EACH OF THOSE MOTIONS WILL REQUIRE A VOTE OF THE ENTIRE COUNCIL TO PASS.
UM, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, AND IF NOT, WE CAN START WITH NOMINATIONS.
AND DO WE NEED INDIVIDUAL VOTES ON EACH? YES.
ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S TAKE THESE IN ORDER OF, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR US? OKAY.
WE'LL TAKE THESE IN ORDER OF PLACE.
UH, THE APPOINTMENT IS FOR RANDY SMITH.
I AM, UH, IT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE DO.
I THINK PEOPLE ON THESE COMMITTEES THAT HELP US WITH THE TOWN.
AND, AND I AM, UH, VERY PLEASED, UH, TO MAKE THE NOMINATION OF SOMEONE THAT HAS A, A WIDE VARIETY OF EXPERIENCE IN, IN LAND USE DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND, UH, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE.
AND I'D LIKE TO, UH, UH, MAKE A MOTION FOR DAVE COLLINS, PLEASE.
IS THERE A SECOND? MAYOR, WE, I THOUGHT LAST YEAR WE DID 'EM ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
ARE WE GONNA, WELL, VALENCIA JUST SAID THAT WE NEED TO DO EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
DAVE COLLINS IS APPROVED FOR PLACE.
ALRIGHT, PLACE FIVE IS FOR MARLON WILLISON.
MY NOMINATION IS TO REAPPOINT, UH, JIMMY BARKER.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
AND FOR PLACE SIX WE HAVE DAN CIO.
I'D LIKE TO REAPPOINT ED COPELAND, UH, HAS HAD A WONDERFUL TIME.
HAVE, HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH ED OVER THE PAST YEAR AND, UM, JUST HAVE WATCHED SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEETING OR COMMISSION MEETINGS THAT HE'S HAS HE HAS HAD BEEN A PART OF AND JUST LOVE HIS WORK.
SO, REAPPOINTING, ED COPELAND.
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FROM DARREN.ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
THEN WE HAVE, UH, ED COPELAND, WE'LL BE CONTINUING IN PLACE SIX AND FOR PLACE SEVEN, THAT'S MINE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO REAPPOINT CHELSEA SMITH.
SHE IS, UH, THIS IS WILL BE HER SECOND TERM AND SHE'S DONE, UH, SOME REALLY GREAT WORK.
SHE HAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE AT WORLEY.
AND THAT IS MY MOTION FOR CHELSEA SMITH.
THANK YOU HOWARD FOR THE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
AND THEN CHELSEA SMITH IS REAPPOINTED FOR PLACE SEVEN.
YOU HAVE A QUESTION, MAYOR, ON THE ONE BEFORE THAT WAS, UH, DAN, UM, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU CALL FOR ANY OPPOSED, I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS UNANIMOUS.
[d. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution nominating four (4) citizens to serve on the Board of Zoning Adjustment for two-year terms commencing January 1, 2026, and providing an effective date.]
SO MOVING ON TO SIX D PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION NOMINATING FOR CITIZENS TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT FOR TWO YEAR TERMS, COMMENCING JANUARY 4TH, 20 JANUARY 1ST, 2020 SIXTH, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.VALENCIA AND COUNSEL VALENCIA GARCIA, CITY SECRETARY, UH, LIKEWISE SIMILAR TO THE, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING NOMINATIONS, WE FOLLOWED THE SAME PROCESS FOR, UH, THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT.
UH, SO THE NOTIFICATIONS WENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, NOTIFYING INDIVIDUALS INTERESTED TO APPLY AS WELL AS, UH, BOARD MEMBERS WITH EXPIRING TERMS IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEEK REAPPOINTMENT APPLICATION.
DEADLINE WAS ALSO DECEMBER 2ND, 2025.
COUNSEL WAS PROVIDED WITH THE COMPLETE LIST OF APPLICANTS AND THEIR RESPECTIVE APPLICATIONS.
UH, THIS YEAR WE HAVE FOUR BOARD MEMBERS WITH TERMS EXPIRING AT THE END OF 2025.
UM, LIKE P AND Z, THEY MAY SERVE UP TO THREE CONSECUTIVE TWO YEAR TERMS. THESE TERMS WILL ALSO BEGIN IN JANUARY, 2026 AND EXPIRE IN 2027.
UH, PLACES FOUR THROUGH SEVEN ARE, UM, TERMS EXPIRED THIS YEAR.
UH, AGAIN, WE HAVE THE PREVIOUS NOMINATING COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE NEXT NOMINATING COUNCIL MEMBER AS SHOWN HERE.
UM, AND AS WE JUST DID FOR PLANNING AND ZONING, EACH NOMINATING COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE AN INDIVIDUAL MOTION FOR THEIR NOMINATION AND EACH MOTION WILL REQUIRE A VOTE OF THE ENTIRE COUNCIL PASS.
UH, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR WE CAN START NOMINATIONS.
VALENCIA, ANY QUESTIONS? I WILL GO DO THE SAME ROUTINE THIS TIME FOR PLACE FOUR.
RANDY SMITH, WHO IS YOUR NOMINEE.
AND ONCE AGAIN, I AM PLEASED, UH, TO NOMINATE SOMEONE WITH A VAST EXPERIENCE AND, UH, ABILITY TO DE DIG INTO THINGS AND, AND REALLY GET TO IT.
I'LL SECOND IT SECOND FROM HOWARD.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU RANDY.
AND THANK YOU ELIZABETH JONES.
YES, MY, UH, NOMINATION IS TO REAPPOINT MIKE O'NEILL.
MIKE O'NEILL IS A REAPPOINTMENT FROM MARLON.
ANY, UH, THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
THANK YOU MIKE O'NEILL FOR SERVING AGAIN.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRING SCOTT HUNT INTO THE FOLD, RECENT CITIZEN ACADEMY GRADUATE FOR THE MOTION.
AND THERE WAS A SECOND FROM WHO? DARREN SECOND ARE FAST.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ALRIGHT, AND PLACE SEVEN IS MINE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO REAPPOINT SHEILA WOOLDRIDGE.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[e. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution casting the Town of Addison's allocated votes for a Suburban Cities Representative to the Dallas Central Appraisal District Board of Directors.]
ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX E, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION CASTING THE TOWN OF ADDISON'S ALLOCATED VOTES FOR A SUBURBAN CITIES REPRESENTATIVE TO THE DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS VALENCIA.UH, MAYOR COUNCIL VALENCIA GARCIA, CITY SECRETARY.
UM, SO THE TOWN RECEIVED NOTICE FROM THE DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICTS, ALSO KNOWN AS DCA, UH, THEIR CHIEF ARAI THAT THE NOMINATION, UH, PROCESS WHERE THE BOARD HAS BEEN COMPLETED, THAT WAS ABOUT MID-OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.
UH, THE DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS FIVE MEMBERS ON ITS BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UM, WHICH INCLUDES THE DALLAS COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR AND COLLECTOR.
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UM, AND THEN THE OTHERS REPRESENT THE FOLLOWING GROUPS.DALLAS COUNTY, CITY OF DALLAS, DALLAS, INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, SUBURBAN CITIES, WHICH IS THE COHORT WE ARE PART OF, UM, AND THE SUBURBAN SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO THIS YEAR THE TOWN HAS BEEN ALLOCATED 10 VOTES AS A TAXING ENTITY.
UM, SO D CD CALCULATES EACH TAXING ENTITY'S VOTE ALLOCATION EACH YEAR, UH, BASED ON THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S TAXING UNIT, PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL TAXES IMPOSED FOR DALLAS COUNTY.
UM, SO THE TOWN MAY CHOOSE TO CAST ALL-IN VOTES FOR ONE CANDIDATE, OR IT CAN DISTRIBUTE ITS 10 VOTES ACROSS MULTIPLE CANDIDATES IF THEY WISH.
UM, SO BY STATE LAW, THE TOWN IS REQUIRED TO VOTE BY OFFICIAL BALLOT RESOLUTION.
SHOULD THE TOWN CHOOSE TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING, WE WILL NEED TO NOTIFY, UH, D AD IN WRITING.
UM, FOR SOME CONTEXT, IN LAST YEAR'S DC AD BOARD OF DIRECTORS ELECTION, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL WAS ALLOCATED 25 VOTES AND VOTED TO CAST THEM ALL FOR CLYDE C TON.
UM, THE NOMINEES FOR THE 2026 DA BOARD OF DIRECTORS ELECTIONS ARE LISTED HERE.
COUNCIL WAS PROVIDED WITH EACH OF THEIR RESUMES, UM, TO ASSIST IN THIS PROCESS.
UH, TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AND NO MOVE ON TO CASTING VOTES.
VALENCIA, ANY QUESTIONS FOR VALEN? VALENCIA AND MAYOR, I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
SO RIGHT NOW, OUT OF THE NOMINEES, UH, IS THERE SOMEWHERE HERE IN THE PRESENTATION THAT SHOWS WHO IS, WHO IS SERVING IN THE POSITION NOW? YEAH, CLYDE TON IS CURRENTLY MM-HMM
OH, MR. MAYOR OF LANCASTER, UH, THAT'S WHO THEY ALLOCATED TO.
THAT'S, SO HE IS SERVING IN THE POSITION NOW, IS HE THE ONLY ONE? CORRECT.
AND DO WE, UM, I KNOW, DO WE KNOW THE CURRENT VOTE COUNT? UM, WE DO AS, UM, OF TODAY, BECAUSE THE LAST DAY TO SUBMIT VOTES IS, UH, DECEMBER 15TH.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S TWO SPOTS UP FOR ELECTION.
SO THE, UM, TWO CANDIDATES WITH THE MOST CUMULATIVE VOTES WILL GET DECLARED AS ELECTED.
UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT IS WILLIAM DAVID PALMER WITH 61 VOTES, AND PAULINE MADANO WITH 39 VOTES.
AND I'M SORRY, WHO WAS THE OTHER PAULINE? MAD PAULINE MADANO WITH, WITH HOW MANY, HOW MANY? 39 VOTES? 30, 39% OR 39 VOTES.
UH, OUT OF A TOTAL, SO THE SUBURBAN CITIES, UH, ARE ALLOCATED 654 VOTES.
AND I'M SORRY, WILLIAM, DAVID PALMER.
DID YOU SAY VOTES OR DID YOU SAY PERCENTAGE VOTES? SO ONLY 61 VOTES.
SO REALLY THE BIG, THE BIG VOTERS HAVEN'T VOTED YET.
UM, WELL, FOR IRVING, IRVING HAS 60 VOTES, UM, WHICH THEY ALL CAST FOR WILLIAM DAVID PALMER.
SO THE BIG, UM, THE BIG VOTERS ARE, UM, THE DALLAS.
UH, WELL, DALLAS AS A CITY HAS ITS OWN.
YEAH, THESE ARE FOR THE, OH, I'M SORRY, JUST FOR SUBURBANS.
YOU SAID THAT THIS YEAR WE HAVE 10 VOTES.
WHY DID IT CHANGE? YEAH, SO THEY, UH, ALLOCATED AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE, UM, TAXES IMPOSED FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.
SO OUR PERCENTAGE OF THAT, SO THEY LOOK AT OUR, UM, OUR ESTIMATED TAXABLE VALUE FOR 2024.
UM, THEY LOOK AT OUR TAX RATE AND THEN THEY MAKE AN ESTIMATION BASED OFF THAT.
AND THEN WE GET THE PERCENTAGE OF THAT.
THAT MAKES UP ALL OF DALLAS COUNTY'S TAXES IMPOSED.
SO THEY TAKE THAT CALCULATION.
UH, IT'S IN THE ACTUAL, IT'S IN THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS IF YOU WANNA PULL IT UP.
THEY'VE GOT A VERY BIG CALCULATION.
THEY JUST DO IT EACH YEAR BASED OFF THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S NUMBERS.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE THAT, BUT OURS CHANGED THAT MUCH IN ONE YEAR.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WASN'T AN ERROR.
UH, SO MARLON, YEAH, UH, ONE, ONE LAST QUESTION.
SO I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THIS, UH, SPREADSHEET WITH A VOTE WITH, UH, VARIOUS CITIES, THE VARIOUS TAX ENTITIES.
AND THERE, UM, WHAT I'M THINKING THERE, IT SAYS TAXING UNIT PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL VOTE, RIGHT? YES.
AND IT, AND IT SAYS WE'VE GOT BASICALLY HALF OF 1%.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE, THE ONES IN YELLOW, THE DALLAS.
WHY, WHY ARE THEY, WHY ARE THEY SHOWN AND THEIR PERCENTAGE SHOWN IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE VOTING FOR SERIOUS DIFFERENT MEMBERS THAN WE ARE? UM, THAT I, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT'S ACCURATE OR IF THAT'S YES, IT COULD BE.
UM, THAT SHEET WAS CALCULATED BY THE DCA, SO, UH, I BELIEVE 'CAUSE FOR HOW THEY DO IT FOR THE OTHER SUBURBAN CITIES, IT'S
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ALSO YOUR PERCENTAGE OF DALLAS COUNTY THAT YOU'RE IN.SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DID DALLAS COUNTY ON THEIR OWN AND THEN DALLAS COUNTY AS A SUBURBAN CITY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
WELL, I APPRECIATE, UM, CLYDE HAIRSTON SERVING FOR US, UH, THIS PAST, THIS PAST TERM.
AND, UH, I'VE MET MAYOR HAIRSTON, UH, MULTIPLE TIMES AND YOU WON'T FIND A FINER GENTLEMAN OUT THERE.
SO, UH, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO CAST ALL OF OUR 10 VOTES FOR CLYDE HAIRSTON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, ITEM SIX E IS APPROVED.
[7. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.]
OKAY.SO LET'S GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.
AND THEN WE'LL BE GOING BACK TO OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS AFTERWARDS.
SO ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO EXPRESS ANY, UH, THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCES, UH, ET CETERA.
AND, UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE? I SEE CHRIS LIGHTS ON.
UM, FIRST OF ALL WITH, UH, WITH OUR PLANNING AND ZONING AND OUR BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS, I WANT TO, I WANT TO THANK, UH, TOM BROWN FOR HIS, ALL OF HIS SERVICE ON P AND Z AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE BEFORE THAT TOO.
HE JUST CONTINUES TO STEP UP AND, AND DO A LOT FOR THE TOWN.
SO I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
AND, UM, DEPARTING FROM BOARD OF ZONING AND ADJUSTMENT, JAMES SPEC AND JOHN ENGLAND, I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE ALSO.
UM, AND THEN, SO THIS IS OUR, OUR LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF THE YEAR.
AND, AND WE'VE HAD A GREAT YEAR, UM, AND WE'VE BEEN EXTREMELY PRODUCTIVE THIS YEAR.
AND, UM, SO, UM, UM, I'M VERY THOUGHTFUL OF THAT AND APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
AND, AND ALL OF OUR COUNCIL, UM, MEMBERS ARE HIGHLY INVOLVED, RIGHT? I'VE, I'VE NEVER BEEN ON A COUNCIL WHERE WE'VE GOT DIFF ALL THESE DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS SPONSORING AGENDA ITEMS AND, AND ACTIVELY EVOLVE AND, AND WE'RE LISTENING AND WE'RE TALKING THROUGH ALL THESE THINGS AND, UH, WE'RE LEARNING FROM EACH OTHER.
AND IN MY MIND, WE'RE MAKING BETTER DECISIONS COLLECTIVELY AS A TEAM BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING BETTER, BETTER DECISIONS GROUP DECISION MAKING, BETTER THAN ANY SINGLE ONE PERSON CAN MAKE.
SO, UM, I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL TEAM.
I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF WHO HELPS US WITH ALL THIS STUFF.
AND OF COURSE, THE RESIDENTS WHO PROVIDE ALL THE INPUT TOO.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I MISSED THE VITRUVIAN LIGHTS LAST YEAR, BUT I DIDN'T MISS IT THIS YEAR.
AND IF ANYBODY HASN'T EVER BEEN TO ONE, I THINK YOU SHOULD GO.
AND THE SAME THING WITH HOLIDAY IN THE PARK AND LIGHTING THAT CHRISTMAS TREE AS WELL.
UM, UUDR IS THAT, WHO DID VITRUVIAN LIGHTS? SO BOTH DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.
DARREN, UH, I'LL, UH, ECHO WHAT MARLON SAID.
UM, I ENJOY WORKING WITH, UH, ALL OF YOU GUYS ON COUNCIL AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S, UH, OPINION AND INPUT.
UH, AND IT'S, IT'S BEEN A JOY TO, TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS.
I THINK WE HAVE THE MOST ENGAGED CITIZENS EVER THAT WE'VE EVER HAD, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ACTIVATION OF THE ADDISON CIRCLE ASSOCIATION, UH, THEM GETTING INVOLVED.
SO I'M REALLY PLEASED TO SEE THAT THE CITIZENS ARE ARE INVOLVED.
AND WE DID, UM, DAVID GAINES, UM, REVIEW TONIGHT.
AND, UH, THAT WAS OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, AND I THINK WE MIGHT KEEP 'EM.
UM, SO, UH, DAVID, IT'S, IT'S A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU.
UM, I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE DID THE SEARCH AND FOUND YOU AND THE COUNCIL DECIDED TO HIRE YOU, AND I THINK IT WAS A FANTASTIC HIRE.
UM, NINES AND TENS ARE PROMOTERS, AND I, I WOULD GIVE 'EM AT LEAST A NINE ON A SCALE OF 10.
UH, AND ALL THE STAFF, I MEAN THE STAFF, YOU GUYS ARE AN AMAZING TEAM.
SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY A, A PLEASURE WORKING WITH EVERYBODY.
AND THANK YOU FOR STAYING AFTERWARDS FOR THE NEXT SESSION, TOO.
DAN, I JUST WANTED TO LOOK BACK AND REFLECT ON THE YEAR, A YEAR AGO I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER.
DIDN'T MAKE ANY BIG FUSS ABOUT IT UNTIL I CAME TO THE MAYOR AND, UH, CITY MANAGER WITH THE NEWS, WASN'T SURE I COULD SERVE, WENT THROUGH AN ELECTION, WAS REELECTED.
SO VERY PRIVILEGED FOR THOSE THAT LISTENING AT HOME, PRIVILEGED TO SERVE AMONGST THIS PANEL.
CERTAINLY LOVED THE CHALLENGES, CERTAINLY, UM, APPRECIATIVE OF THOSE THAT STOOD BEHIND ME, BUT CERTAINLY APPRECIATE VALENCIA AND THE STAFF PASSION.
AND ASHLEY, BECAUSE I WAS ASKED HER, YOU KNOW, IF I PUT MY HOMEWORK, ASSIGNMENTS ARE IN ON TIME, IRMA USED TO ALWAYS TELL ME I DIDN'T.
AND, UM, JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, MAYOR.
JUST BEEN, UM, REALLY BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO SERVE, SO THANK YOU.
UH, YEAH, FOR ME, UH, I'LL ECHO A LOT OF WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE SAID, SO I WON'T REPEAT IT, BUT, UH, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY.
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THE TWO EVENTS, UH, LAST WEEK WITH, UH, THE LIGHTING OF THE TREE AND, AND THE HOLIDAY IN THE PARK.REALLY GREAT JOB BY THE, YOU KNOW, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER OUT THERE.
AND THEN ON SUNDAY, SEEING ALL THE STAFF AND ALL THE BOOTHS OUT THERE AND GIVING AWAY ALL THE ADDISON SWAG AND PEOPLE WERE JUST, PEOPLE WERE LINED UP AT THE AIRPORT TABLE A LOT.
THEY WERE GETTING, THEY LIKED THAT AT THE AIRPORT SWAG FOR SOME REASON.
BUT, AND THEN THE, THE ELF MARKET, THAT WAS INCREDIBLE.
I MEAN, JUST, JUST THE NUMBER OF, OF, OF PARTICIPANTS THAT WE HAD THIS TIME WAS REALLY GREAT.
IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY HEARTWARMING TO SEE THOSE YOUNG ENTREPRENEURS OUT THERE DOING THEIR THING AND LEARNING SOME STUFF.
AND, AND SEEING DAVID'S, UH, SONS OUT THERE REALLY GR THEIR, THEIR SKILLS HAVE GROWN THE LAST COUPLE TIMES.
AND, UH, AND THERE WAS, THERE WAS ONE YOUNG LADY THAT I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THAT, UH, SHE HAD SOME HOMEMADE SOAPS THAT SHE DID.
AND, AND, UM, SHE WAS REALLY NICE.
AND SHE HAD PARTICIPATED RECENTLY IN A, UH, A SERVICE PROJECT AT, UH, LAY LOCK PARK DOING SOME PLANTINGS WITH SOME OTHER YOUTH.
AND, UH, SO I WAS TALKING TO HER AND SHE SAID THAT, UH, FOR HER SOAP SALES, ALL THE PROCEEDS OF THAT WERE GOING TO GO TO THE STEW POTT.
IT'S A NONPROFIT DOWNTOWN FOR HOMELESS FOLKS, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR.
AND SHE SAID LAST TIME SHE DID IT AT, AT, AT ANOTHER EVENT SELLING SOAP, SHE, UH, RAISED OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE STEW POT.
AND THAT WAS HER GOAL FOR THE, FOR SUNDAYS.
AND, UH, I HOPE SHE MADE IT, BUT, UH, BUT I JUST LOVE SEEING ALL THAT.
I LOVE SEEING THE, THE THINGS THAT WE DO IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I KNOW WE'RE JUST GONNA KEEP ON LOOKING FOR NEW, UH, NEW THINGS TO DO, UH, TO MAKE, UH, ADDISON, YOU KNOW, REALLY GREAT, UM, GREATER THAN IT IS AND, UH, AND KEEP THAT, KEEP SOME OF THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL.
AND IT'S THINGS LIKE THAT I THINK THAT DID DO THAT FOR US.
SO, UH, IT'S BEEN MY HONOR TO, UH, TO SERVE, UH, ADDISON THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
AND WE'VE GOT A BUSY 2026 COMING UP.
SO WITH THAT, UH, I ASSUME EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE MAYBE A BRIEF BREAK BEFORE WE WENT BACK INTO WORK SESSION ITEMS. SO IT IS, UH, 8 44 AND SO WE'LL TAKE A, UH, EIGHT MINUTE BREAK.
IT IS 8 52 EXACTLY EIGHT MINUTES AFTER WE LEFT FOR BREAK.
AND WE ARE COMING BACK INTO, UH, OPEN SESSION FOR OUR WORK SESSION REPORTS AND JUST, UH, SO COUNSEL KNOWS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING, UH, WE'RE GOING TO PUSH ITEM SIX A TO OUR JANUARY MEETING JUST FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, SINCE IT'S GETTING A LITTLE BIT LATE.
[b. Present and discuss the 2026 City Council Events Calendar.]
WE'LL DO ITEM SIX B, THE, UH, CALENDAR.AND I'LL ASK THE COUNCIL FOR A PREFERENCE ON SIX C.
DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO TAKE THAT ON TONIGHT OR SHOULD WE PUSH THAT TO JANUARY? WHAT IS IT? I SAY THE RULES AND PROCEDURES COUNCIL, WHERE ARE THE RULES? I WOULD PUSH JUST, I'M OKAY WITH PUSHING.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE PUSHING, UH, SIX C TO JANUARY.
SO THEN ALL WE HAVE LEFT IS THERE ARE ITEM SIX B AND THEN WE'LL DO OUR, UH, THAT OTHER CLOSED SESSION ITEM.
SO, UH, ITEM SIX B PRESENTED, DISCUSSED THE 2026 CITY COUNCIL EVENTS CALENDAR.
IT'S THE VALENCIA SHOW TONIGHT.
IF WE HAVE A QUESTION ON A PARTICULAR MONTH, DO YOU WANT US TO ADDRESS IT AS THIS IS THE TIME TO DO THAT? YES.
WELL, NO, WHAT I'M ASKING IS DO YOU WANT US TO ADDRESS IT DURING, DURING HER DISCUSSION OR DO YOU WANT US TO WAIT UNTIL SHE'S DONE AND COME BACK? UH, LET'S LET HER DO HER THING AND THEN WAIT AND COME BACK.
VALENCIA GARCIA, CITY SECRETARY TO DISCUSS THE 2026 CITY COUNCIL CALENDAR.
UH, WE WILL START OUT WITH JANUARY, 2026.
WE HAVE OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS ALL SLATED OUT FOR THE YEAR, UH, STARTING WITH OUR WORK SESSION MEETING AND THEN OUR TWO REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
UH, AS A NOTE, WE ALSO HAVE OUR CITY COUNCIL STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY 30TH.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF TOWN HOLIDAYS WITH NEW YEAR'S DAY AND THEN MLK DAY IN JANUARY.
UM, AND THEN IMPORTANT DATES, WE KICK OFF THE MAY, 2026 ELECTION CYCLE WITH THE FIRST DATE TO FILE BEING, UH, JANUARY 14TH.
CAN I GO TO INTERRUPT YOU? YEAH, UM, I THINK IT DOES PROBABLY MAKE SENSE TO GO AND DO A MONTH AT A TIME AS WE GO THROUGH.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ON JANUARY? YEP.
I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON, UM, THE, UH, 30TH.
WE'VE GOT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT.
AND SO, UH, DO WE THINK THAT MIGHT BE A HALF DAY OR FULL DAY OR DO WE, DO WE THINK WE JUST NEED ONE DAY? WHAT'S THE CURRENT SCHEDULE FOR IT? FULL DAY? IT'LL BE A, A JANUARY 30TH DAY, BUT STARTING A LITTLE, I THINK IT STARTS AT NINE AND THEN ENDS AT, YOU KNOW, THREE 30 OR FOUR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO ALMOST A, ALMOST A FULL DAY PLAN A DAY ON THAT.
LIKE WE'VE WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.
YEAH, WE, UM, AND IT HELPS IF EVERY, IF WE'VE GOT ALL, ALL THE SAME COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE CAN KIND OF FLY THROUGH IT.
IT'S NOT, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, SO, OKAY.
SO, SO BASICALLY WE HAVE CLOSE TO A FULL DAY TO WORK WITH ON THE 30TH.
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IS IT POSSIBLE TO, UH, EXTEND THAT TO UM, FIVE O'CLOCK AND GET OUT EARLY IF WE CAN SO THAT EVERYBODY ACCOUNTS FOR IT? 'CAUSE I'D LIKE, WE MAY HAVE MORE DISCUSSION THAN NORMAL WITH, UM, NEW VIEWPOINTS.JUST TRYING TO PLAN SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO NOT FINISH RIGHT.
GET IT DONE THAT DAY, GET IT DONE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM BLOCKING THE CALENDAR.
AND IF WE GET DONE EARLY, WE GET DONE EARLY.
ANYTHING ELSE IN JANUARY? ANYBODY? NO.
UM, SO I AM GONNA ASK JUST ON EACH OF THESE MONTHS, NOTHING IN PARTICULAR, BUT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND MADE SURE WE'RE NOT HAVING SOMETHING ON MARTIN LUTHER KING.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.
IS THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU SEE THAT, THAT, UH, WE SUPPOSED, WELL, I MEAN THERE'S NOTHING LISTED ON THERE AS FAR AS HOLIDAYS OR RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS ON THE DATES.
SO, WELL, WE GOT, WE GOT THE FEDERAL HOLIDAYS ARE UP THERE, MLK DAYS UP THERE.
AND AS A NOTE, WE DID, UH, REFERENCE RELIGIOUS, UH, RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY CALENDAR FOR 2026 AS WELL TO ENSURE THERE WERE NO I'LL, UH, CONFLICTS FOR ANY OF OUR MEETINGS.
UM, SO FOR FEBRUARY WE HAVE OF A LIGHTER MONTH, UM, OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING, SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR MAY, 2026 ELECTION FILING DEADLINE ON FEBRUARY 13TH.
QUESTIONS ON FEBRUARY? ISN'T THERE A HOLIDAY IN FEBRUARY? VALENTINE'S DAY PRESIDENT'S DAY PRESIDENT.
OH, PRESIDENT'S DAY, IT'S NOT LISTED HERE.
IS THAT THE 16TH? I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON A MONDAY.
SO, UH, SO FOR HOLIDAYS, WE'RE ONLY REFERENCING TOWN HOLIDAYS ON THIS CALENDAR.
SO, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE FEDERAL OR STATE HOLIDAYS ON HERE.
YEAH, IF THEY'RE NOT, IF THEY'RE NOT TOWN STAFF HOLIDAYS, THEY'RE NOT LISTED HERE.
SO FOR MARCH, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING THE SPRINGTOWN MEETING TO BE HELD TUESDAY, MARCH 3RD INSTEAD OF OUR USUAL CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION.
UM, LEAVING US WITH OUR TWO REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AS WELL.
THIRD DOES A THIRD WORK FOR EVERYBODY FOR THAT MEETING.
I HAVE A CONFLICT THAT I'LL HAVE TO CHANGE SOME THINGS.
UM, IF IT'S JUST ME, I'LL COME BACK INTO TOWN.
YEAH, I'M GONNA, I'M JUST GONNA ADD A COMMENT.
UM, I, I LIKE THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT EARLIER I THINK THAN IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST.
AND, AND I DO LIKE THAT BECAUSE, UH, IN THE PAST SOMETIMES WE'VE BEEN, BEEN, BEEN COMPETING LIKE THE MEN'S NATIONAL BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME OR SOME MAJOR, MAJOR SPORTING EVENT, WHICH, UM, NOT CONDUCIVE FOR A GOOD TURNOUT.
SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT LOCKED INTO TO MARCH 3RD, BUT WHEN I SAW THIS AND STARTED GOING THROUGH THIS AND LOOKING, LOOKING AT THE COMP, WHAT ARE WE COMPETING WITH? UM, I LIKED THAT DATE AND I LIKED IT EARLIER RATHER THAN SOMETIME IN APRIL.
EVERYBODY ELSE OKAY WITH THE THIRD FOR OF MARCH? SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE.
SO FOR APRIL IT'S A LITTLE BUSIER.
WE HAVE OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND OUR WORK SESSION.
UM, THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TASTE ADDISON 2026 FOR THE 17TH THROUGH 19TH.
UH, WE START EARLY VOTING FOR THE MAY, 2026 ELECTION ON MONDAY, APRIL 20TH.
UH, HAVE P AND Z THE FOLLOWING DAY.
UM, AND THEN AT OUR FINAL COUNCIL MEETING AT, ON APRIL 28TH, THAT IS ALSO THE SAME DAY THAT EARLY, EARLY VOTING ENDS FOR THE MAY, 2026 ELECTION.
UM, DID YOU SAY YOU DID LOOK AT OTHER, LIKE RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS OR WERE THEY JUST CHRISTIAN RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS? UM, WE LOOKED AT CHRISTIAN AND JEWISH HOLIDAYS.
SO PHYLLIS SILVER ASKED ME TO SEND IN A LIST OF THE JEWISH HOLIDAYS, WHICH I DID NOT DO.
SO I I I MEAN EASTER'S IN APRIL TOO.
I, I MEAN, BUT WE DON'T DO ANYTHING ON SUNDAYS, BUT PASSOVER IS EIGHT DAYS, SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN IT IS.
BUT THAT FIRST NIGHT OF PASSOVER IS A PROBLEM NIGHT.
SO DO, I DON'T KNOW, I HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE.
MS. SILVER SENT THE LIST OF TO STAFF.
WHEN IS PASSOVER? WHAT, UH, MS. MS. SILVER, SHE SENT THE LIST OF JEWISH HOLIDAYS FOR 26 AND SHE DIDN'T LIST PASSOVER.
SHE DID, BUT SHE SUBMITTED IT.
UM, I WAS JUST, NONE OF OUR MEETINGS ON TUESDAY.
APRIL 1ST, ACCORDING TO, UH, DR.
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'CAUSE IT FOLLOWS A DIFFERENT LUNAR PATTERN.AS LONG AS IT'S NOT THAT TUESDAY.
THANK YOU FOR OBSERVING THE JEWISH HOLIDAYS.
WHAT DOES THAT, ABOUT WHAT? JEWISH HOLIDAYS.
SO LOOKING AT MAY, UM, WE START THE MONTH OFF BUSY WITH THE MAY, 2026, ELECTION DAY BEING SATURDAY MAY 2ND, UM, MAY 5TH.
WE HAVE A WORK SESSION MEETING SCHEDULED.
AND THEN MAY 12TH IS WHEN WE DO OUR SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WE CANVAS THE, UM, ELECTION RESULTS FOR THAT YEAR.
AND, UM, WE HAVE P AND Z THE FOLLOWING WEEK, THEN LOOKING AT, UH, MEMORIAL DAY FOR THE 25TH AND THEN GOING INTO REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 26TH.
ANY QUESTIONS? SO WOULD THE 12TH BE JUST THE CANVASSING OR WOULD WE DO ADDITIONAL WORK ON THAT DAY? ON COUNCIL MEETING DAY? UH, THAT IS TRADITIONALLY ALWAYS JUST CANVASSING ONLY.
WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THE ANSWER? THAT'S TRADITIONALLY ONLY A CANVASSING ONLY.
BUT IF WE WOULD LIKE TO, WE COULD, YEAH, WE COULD ALSO ADD OTHER ITEMS. WHAT DARIN WHAT WHAT'D YOU HAVE IN MIND AFTER? I JUST WAS KIND OF TRYING TO GET SOME WORK DONE AND, UM, MAYBE I, I KNOW YOU HAVE BRAND NEW COUNCIL PEOPLE AND, AND IT'S AWKWARD.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ADD ADDITIONAL WORK OR MOVE SOMETHING AROUND FROM ONE DAY, ONE TUESDAY TO THE OTHER, I'D BE OPEN TO THAT.
AND WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST.
I LIKE IT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU FIRST GOT ON, RIGHT? I THINK SO.
I THINK WE WENT TO WORK FIRST DAY.
SO IF I CAN MAKE JUST ONE SUGGESTION AND FOR CONVERSATION FOR YOU ALL ON MAY, AND WE PUT IT HERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
IF YOU RECALL LAST TIME WE DID HAVE THE ELECTION DAY AND THEN WE HAD A MEETING BETWEEN THE ELECTION DAY AND THE CANVASSING.
THAT WAS A CONVERSATION, THE FACT THAT WE HAD A MEETING BETWEEN THE ELECTION DAY AND CANVASSING IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES.
SO JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT FOR YOU.
I THINK IF WE MADE THAT A WORKING DAY WHERE WE COULD GET SOME WORK DONE ON THE CANVASSING, IT MAY BE A REASON TO DO AWAY WITH THE MEETING BETWEEN, BUT THAT'S FOR COUNCIL TO DISCUSS.
I, TO ME, UM, THE MOST CRITICAL THING IS, IS IF WE HAVE A, AN OUTGOING COUNCIL MEMBER AND WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE OUTGOING, THAT THAT, THAT THEY NOT BE PUT IN THAT AWKWARD POSITION OF DECISION MAKING.
WELL, AND THAT'S, YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S, I'M THINKING FOR THAT WORK SESSION MEETING ON THE, ON THE FIFTH BETWEEN THE TWO, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
JUST 'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME COUNSEL.
I WOULD, YEAH, I, YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT, I I AGREE.
AND I'D SAY IF WE HAVE THINGS WE NEED TO VOTE ON, CAN WE DO THAT AFTER THE CANVASSING? YEAH, I'M, I'M OKAY IF IT WAS NEW, WHOEVER'S ON DOING THAT.
BUT, BUT I ALSO WANNA BE MINDFUL OF, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THAT, ON THAT FIRST MEETING AFTER, AFTER, UM, GETTING THE COUNCIL, AFTER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SWORN IN, A LOT OF 'EM LIKE TO DO A CELEBRATORY THING.
I DON'T WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM DOING THAT.
UM, I'M OKAY TO GO EITHER WAY.
IF WE WE WANNA DO WORK, THAT'S FINE.
TO YOUR POINT, I WOULD PREFER TO DO SOME WORK.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO A MEETING ON THE 14TH? UM, THE 12TH AND THE 14TH AND 'CAUSE YOU'LL ELIMINATE THE FIFTH OR I MEAN, WE PUT IT ON THE CALENDAR NOW.
WE WOULD, EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW.
BECAUSE IT WAS WEIRD ON THAT DAY.
RANDY WAS THERE, HE WAS ELECTED, BUT HE HAD TO SIT IN THE BACKGROUND.
AND NANCY WAS THERE, BUT KNOWING SHE WASN'T GONNA BE ON YEAH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE AWKWARD.
SO MAYBE CANCEL THE FIFTH AND DO THE 14TH.
I THINK, I THINK TRYING TO DO TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS IN ONE WEEK IS TOO, IS TOO HARSH.
WELL I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF WE GET TO THAT POINT AND, AND DAVID SAYS, HEY, THERE'S SOME BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE TO ATTEND TO, UM, I'M, I'M GUESSING IT WOULD BE RATHER SHORT RATHER THAN LIKE OUR REGULAR YEAH.
REGULAR LONG THREE, FOUR HOUR COUNCIL MEETING.
WELL, I, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO JUST SAY THAT WE'RE DOING CANVASING, BUT YOU KNOW, WHATEVER COUNCIL PREFERS, I'M NOT STUCK ON IT, BUT THAT'S MY PREFERENCE.
WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? IT, IT? I HAVE NO THOUGHT ON THAT.
IT'S AWKWARD TO SIT IN THE BACKGROUND WHILE YOU'VE BEEN ELECTED.
I'D SAY WE CANCELED THE FIFTH MEETING.
I THINK WE THAT WOULD BE FOR, YEAH, THE FIFTH.
THE FIFTH FIFTH I THINK WORKS.
NO, THEY CAN'T HAPPEN THE SAME NIGHT.
WHAT THE, SHOULD WE JUST CANCEL THE FIFTH WORK SESSION WHEN, WHEN P AND Z'S GOING ON? NO.
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I'D RATHER, I'D RATHER JUST DO THE CAN PLAN ON DOING THE CANVASSING UNLESS WE JUST NEED TO DO SOMETHING READ.AM I SEEING A, A TREND THAT WE'RE ONLY HAVING COUNCIL MEETINGS AND ONLY HAVING WORK SESSIONS ON A NIGHT? SEEMS LIKE THIS YEAR WE DID WORK SESSIONS AND COUNCIL MEETINGS ALL ON THE SAME NIGHT.
WELL, EVERY TIME WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING, WE'RE AL ALMOST ALWAYS GONNA HAVE A WORK SESSION.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT LISTED ON HERE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A WORK SESSION WITH THE COUNCIL.
THE FIRST TUESDAY IS A WORK SESSION.
ONLY WOULD WOULD NOT A REGULAR MEETING, THE REGULAR MEETINGS WILL HAVE WORK SESSION FOLLOWED BY REGULAR MEETING.
IT JUST WASN'T LISTED THAT WAY.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WAS SEEING A TREND THAT WE WERE.
NO, WE, WE NEED TO, WE NEED PLENTY OF WORK SESSION TIME.
UM, SO LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED, UM, CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
WE HAVE P AND C COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE A TOWN HOLIDAY, UH, JUNETEENTH ON FRIDAY, UH, JUNE 19TH.
ANY QUESTIONS ON JUNE? A QUESTION? UH, NOT SPECIFICALLY ON JUNE.
HOW DOES, UH, THE ZOOM CAPABILITY WORK IN THIS ROOM? IS IT BETTER? ZOOM, ZOOM? THE JUNE WHAT? ZOOM.
IF WE HAD TO DO REMOTE, WE SHOULD HAVE
WHICH, WHICH OF THESE GREAT, ALL OF THEM BE EVERYWHERE SHOULD ASKED THE QUESTION IN THE BEGINNING.
IT WOULD BE ON ALL THE MONITORS.
IT WOULD BE THE ZOOM WOULD BE ON ALL THE MON.
THEN WHERE WOULD THE, WHERE WOULD THE, IT WOULD BE A, A SMALL BOX LOOKS LIKE A SMALL BOX.
I WOULDN'T HAVE TO LOOK AT DAN'S HUGE FACE BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE, IT'S REALLY BIG ON THAT.
NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARES ABOUT THAT.
SO WE'D STILL HAVE OUR AGENDA ITEMS ON THE SCREEN.
AND THE, WHERE WOULD THE CAMERA BE? COUNCIL CAMERA.
WHAT WOULD THAT BE? THAT DID EXECUTIVE ROOM, I MEAN, WOULD, WOULD IT BE THESE CAMERAS? THIS IF WE ARE HERE? YES.
EVERYBODY GOOD WITH JUNE? YES.
SO FOR JULY, WE START OUT WITH KABOOM TOWN ON FRIDAY, JULY 3RD.
UH, WE'RE ALSO OBSERVING INDEPENDENCE DAY FOR THE TOWN, UH, THAT DATE AS WELL.
UH, WE HAVE OUR CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSIONS, OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
ANY QUESTIONS ON JULY? I HAVE ONE.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE LAST TWO JULYS WE CANCELED A JULY MEETING, LIKE PEOPLE VACATION IN THE SUMMER.
IS IT BETTER TO PUT IT ON HERE AND THEN CANCEL IT OR TO JUST DECIDE TODAY? I WOULD PREFER TO PUT IT ON THERE AND THEN CANCEL IT, BUT I ALSO, I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET THROUGH I THROUGH ITEMS. SO IF THAT'S A PREFERENCE, Y'ALL HAVE TO JUST GO AHEAD AND CANCEL ONE.
UM, I KNOW WE HAVEN'T PACKED IT IN FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, BUT IF IT LIGHTENS UP, WE WILL CERTAINLY CANCEL ONE AS WE THAT'S THE INTENT.
WE HAVE A PLANNED VACATION LAST WEEK.
LEMME TELL MY WIFE I'M GONNA DO THIS.
YEAH, LET'S PLAN WITH IT AS IS.
YEAH, BECAUSE WE, WE DO, WE WE JUST, WE HAVE A LOT TO GET THAT WE GOTTA WORK THROUGH.
MOVING INTO AUGUST, UH, WE WOULD START GETTING INTO OUR FY 27 BUDGET.
SO WE HAVE PROPOSED DATES FOR OUR, UM, FY 27 BUDGET WORK SESSION MEETINGS, JUST FOLLOWING THE CADENCE OF LAST YEAR.
AND, UH, HOW WE'VE DONE THAT WOULD BE, UH, AUGUST 4TH AND FIFTH.
JUST PROPOSE IF, IF I COULD JUST ONE POINT FOR CONVERSATION, THIS IS TIME TO DO IT.
ANOTHER OPTION COULD BE FOR BUDGET WORK SESSION.
IF YOU WANTED TO SPEND A SATURDAY TOGETHER, WE COULD JUST DO, WE COULD DO A SATURDAY BUDGET WORK SESSION WHERE WE COME IN SATURDAY FROM NINE TO WHATEVER TIME AND JUST KNOCK IT OUT ALL DAY.
YEAH, I'M, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH NOT DOING THAT.
WELL, I, I, BIG PICKLE BALL DAY.
WELL, WELL LET'S, YOU KNOW, WE, I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHERE I'M GONNA BE SATURDAY MORNING.
WE, WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST AND, UH, IT'S REALLY AN EFFICIENT USE OF THE TIME.
YEAH, I, I I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I, I, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE THIS PAST YEAR WE, WE, WE PUSHED A LOT OF STUFF AND I DON'T THINK WE SPENT ENOUGH TIME ON SOME ITEMS AS WE SHOULD HAVE.
SO I, I WOULD SUPPORT A SATURDAY MEETING.
WELL, IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT, IT WILL BE AN ALL DAY THING.
STARTING AT 9:00 AM MAYBE NINE 15.
I, I WOULD, UH, PREFER SATURDAY.
I LIKE THE CONTINUITY OF THE, THE FULL DAY.
SO THAT WE CAN BE IN THE ZONE THE
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WHOLE DAY.SO IF WE WERE GONNA PICK A SATURDAY, WHICH UH, DO Y'ALL HAVE A PREFERENCE ON A SATURDAY? MAYBE THE EIGHTH FIRST? WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE EIGHTH.
Y'ALL GOOD WITH MAKING THAT CHANGE? SO, UH, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS.
SO YOU'RE SAYING WE STRIKE THE FOURTH AND THE FIFTH AND WE JUST HAVE IT ON THE EIGHTH.
I WOULD TH I WOULD THINK WE COULD STRIKE THE FIFTH AND DO A WORK SESSION ON THE FOURTH, UNLESS WE JUST DON'T NEED IT.
AND THEN DO, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK WE'RE GONNA DO THE EIGHTH FOR BUDGET? UH, I DON'T, I THINK LET'S JUST ONLY DO THE EIGHTH FOR BUDGET AND THEN IF YOU ALL WANT ANOTHER WORK SESSION ON THE FOURTH, YOU CAN, BUT I, I WOULD BE FINE WITH JUST OKAY.
CLEARING THE WEEK OUT 'CAUSE WE KNOW BUDGET'S COMING, GETTING YOU MORE TIME WITH IT.
YEAH, MAYOR, THREE OF THOSE FOUR TUESDAYS, I'M OUT OF TOWN IN AUGUST, SO I'LL BE ZOOMING OBVIOUSLY IF FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING.
BUT FOR THE BUDGET IT'D BE PREFERRED TO BE THAT SATURDAY.
SO FOURTH AND FIFTH ARE OUT AND THEN DO BUDGET ON EIGHTH.
DID WE RESERVE ANOTHER, UH, HALF DAY FOR FINISH UP ON THE FOLLOWING COUNCIL MEETING OR SOMETIME? DID WE ALREADY HAVE THAT DISCUSSION? I MISSED IT.
SO I THINK IF WE GET TO THE EIGHTH, UH, NEXT MEETING, THE WORK SESSION WILL BE BUDGET MOST LIKELY.
SO WE'LL HAVE THAT TUESDAY AS WELL.
FOLLOW IF WE COULD JUST DEDICATE 11TH YEAH.
I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE IT AS ONE DAY, YOU REALLY DO GET THROUGH MORE THAN WHEN YOU SEPARATE 'EM.
'CAUSE YOU'RE JUST ABLE TO, YOU DON'T HAVE THE START STOP.
AND I THINK IF WE'RE FOCUSED, IF WE'RE ALL FOCUSED ON THAT, IT'LL HELP.
SAY THAT AGAIN IF WE'RE ALL, IF WE SOMETIMES IF YOU SAY, HEY, THIS IS THE TIME ALLOCATED.
NINE TO FIVE, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AND UH, VALENCIA, ONCE THIS IS DONE, YOU'RE GONNA SEND US AN UPDATED CALENDAR, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.
ALRIGHT, SO FOR SEPTEMBER, UM, WE'D START OFF WITH A SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR FY 27 BUDGET.
UH, JUST LIKE WE DID THIS, UH, PAST YEAR, THE SECOND JUST BEING OUR FIRST READING OF OUR BUDGET AND TAX RE ORDINANCES.
UM, AND THEN WE GO INTO A, UM, HOLIDAY WEEKEND WITH, UH, LABOR DAY ON THE SEVENTH GOING INTO A REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UM, P AND Z COMMISSION AND THEN ADDISON OCTOBER FEST, WHICH WILL RUN FROM UH, SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH THE 20TH.
UM, AND THEN WE CLOSE IT OUT WITH A REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 22ND.
QUESTIONS ON SEPTEMBER? ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING FOR SEPTEMBER? I'M JUST GONNA SAY THAT YOM KIPPER MICROPHONE PLEASE.
YOM KIPPER STARTS SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MATTERS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD MOVE THAT OCTOBER FEST.
IT'LL JUST, THE JEWISH PEOPLE WON'T BE THERE SUNDAY.
WELL, THERE'S TWO AND A HALF DAYS OF IT PRIOR TO THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO, I'M LOOKING AT THE DATES NOW.
SO OCTOBER, UH, IT'S A LITTLE LIGHTER.
WE HAVE OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, OUR P AND Z COMMISSION MEETING.
UM, AND THEN THE PROPOSED DATE FOR THE FALL TOWN MEETING WOULD BE OCTOBER 22ND.
AND DO WE KNOW WHEN UH, OUR HALLOWEEN EVENT WILL OCCUR? UH, ADDISON TRUNK OR TREAT? UH, NOT AT THIS MOMENT.
I THINK THE HALLOWEEN OR ADDISON HALLOWEEN EVENT.
UM, IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN JUST KIND OF FIGURE THAT OUT AND INCLUDE THAT IN THE CALENDAR INVITES THAT WOULD, UH, MAYBE HELPFUL.
I COULD SEE THAT BEING ON A FRIDAY.
I ASSUME THAT WOULD BE THE FOLLOWING WEEK, RIGHT? THE LAST WEEK OF OCTOBER.
POSSIBLY OCTOBER 30TH, 29TH, 30TH.
EVERYBODY ASK CLEAR FOR THE FALL TOWN MEETING? YEP.
THAT'S, THAT'S AND A LONG FLY BACK.
AND SO RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, IS OUR PLAN TO DO THE TOWN MEETING JUST SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID LAST TIME? YEAH.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PRESENTATIONS, UH, ON VIDEO OR WHATEVER.
UH, FOR NOVEMBER, WE START OUT WITH OUR, UH, WORK SESSION MEETING AND REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
WE HAVE THE TOWN HOLIDAY OF VETERANS DAY.
UM, THAT IS ALSO THE BEGINNING OF THE 2026 TML CONFERENCE, WHICH IS IN SAN ANTONIO.
UM, AND THAT'LL RUN THROUGH THE 13TH.
UH, WE RUN INTO A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING THAT FOLLOWING WEEK.
AND THEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THANKSGIVING WEEK.
NORMALLY WE WOULD HAVE A MEETING ON
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THAT FOURTH TUESDAY THE 24TH, BUT WE TRADITIONALLY CANCELED THOSE.UM, DUE TO THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY.
COULD YOU PUT TML ON THAT 12TH ALSO, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A MULTIDAY, JUST NOT REAL CLEAR.
I KNOW THOSE MULTIDAY KILL ME.
EVERYBODY ELSE GOOD WITH NOVEMBER? YEP.
AND THEN DECEMBER, CLOSING OUT THE YEAR, UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR REGULAR SCHEDULED, UH, WORK SESSION MEETING, OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AS WE TRADITIONALLY ONLY HAVE TWO MEETINGS IN DECEMBER DUE TO THE FOURTH ONE.
ALSO FALLING ON HOLIDAY A WEEK, UH, CHRISTMAS THERE.
UM, AND THEN OUR P AND Z COMMISSION MEETING ON THE 15TH.
SO WOULD WE, UM, SCHEDULE THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION, UH, HOLIDAY NOW HOLIDAY PARTY NOW? YEAH, WE, WE SCHEDULE THAT PRETTY, PRETTY CLOSE.
AND ACTUALLY, OH, DO WE OPEN? YEAH.
YEAH, I'VE GOT A, I'VE GOT A MORE OF A GENERAL QUESTION FOR DAVID.
UM, WE'VE GOT THESE FIRST, UH, FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH, CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MEETINGS.
IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE CHARTER? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT PRECLUDES US FOR VOTING ON THAT THAT FIRST TUESDAY? IF WE NEED TO KNOCK OUT SOME STUFF TO LESSEN THE OTHER, THE OTHER TWO MEETINGS, THERE'S NOTHING THAT PRECLUDES IT.
YOU KNOW, AS, AS A HISTORY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD JUST THE TWO REGULAR MEETING, REGULAR MEETINGS AND WE JUST HAD SO MANY WORK SESSIONS COMING THAT WE ADDED THIS THIRD MEETING.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE RULES PROCEDURE, POSSIBLY THE CHARTER, IT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE, AT LEAST THE SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAY DOESN'T PRECLUDE ME.
SO YOU COULD CERTAINLY HAVE VOTING ITEMS THERE IF THAT'S WHAT COUNSEL WANTED TO OPEN UP.
I'M JUST FLOATING THIS OUT AND MAYBE WE DISCUSS IT MORE WITH THE RULES AND PROCEDURES OR WHEREVER IT'S APPLICABLE.
BUT IF, IF, IF WE COULD CREATE A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE NOT DOING FOUR AND FIVE HOUR MEETINGS AND, AND JUST HAVE, HAVE UH, MAYBE ADD A VOTING ITEM OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER'S NEEDED AT THAT TIME FOR THE FIRST TUESDAY, IT MIGHT MIGHT HELP US.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE HAVING DIFFICULTY GETTING THROUGH ALL OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS A LOT OF TIMES AND WE'RE HAVING TO POSTPONE STUFF.
AND IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN KNOCK 'EM OUT, I SURE LIKE THAT IDEA.
BUT IF WE CAN KNOCK OUT A FEW THINGS VOTING WISE AT THE FIRST TUESDAY, THAT WOULD SAVE US LATER.
WHY DON'T WE LIKE THAT IDEA? WE DO THE RULES JUST FLOATING THAT IDEA OUT RIGHT NOW.
UM, 'CAUSE THE CHALLENGE IS THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE USUAL.
OUR REGULAR MEETINGS THAT RUN LONG.
IT'S THE WORK SESSIONS TYPICALLY.
ALL OF IT COMBINED IS, IS WHAT I'M CONSIDERING CONSIDERING.
SO, SO THE LENGTH OF OUR MEETINGS IS DEFINED BY US.
THAT'S ALL I GOTTA SAY ABOUT THAT.
DO YOU, SO ANYTHING ELSE? EVERYBODY GOOD WITH DECEMBER? I I HAVE A QUESTION ON DECEMBER.
WE HAVE 12, EIGHT HOLIDAYS NOW FOR STAFF, IS THAT RIGHT? I BELIEVE SO.
THE ADDITION OF VETERAN'S DAY AND JUNETEENTH.
SO DID, DO WE HAVE TWO FOR CHRISTMAS? YES.
CHRISTMAS EVE AND CHRISTMAS DAY.
SO WE'VE ALL, THAT'S TWO OF THE 12.
WE DIDN'T ADD AN EXTRA ONE 'CAUSE WE'RE AT CHRISTMAS FALLS HERE.
SO ALWAYS CHRISTMAS IS ALWAYS THE TWO.
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CHECK.
EVERYBODY GOOD WITH EVERYTHING? I THINK WE ARE.
UH, WITH THAT WE'RE THROUGH WITH OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS THAT WE HAVE.
ONE CLOSED SESSION ITEM THAT WE NEED TO ATTEND TO.
DO WE NEED TO GO IN THE OTHER ROOM, I ASSUME? YES.
SO WE'LL, UH, SO WE'LL ADJOURN HERE AT NINE 19 OR RECESS OR WHATEVER WE WANNA CALL IT.
AND WE'LL GO IN THE OTHER ROOM.