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[2. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.]
UM, BUT I'VE RECENTLY READ THIS BOOK CALLED HIGH CONFLICT AND UH, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME OVER THE PAST YEAR TALKING ABOUT CONTENTIOUS ISSUES AND YOU KNOW, THE BOOK'S ABOUT EMERGING OUT OF THAT AND FINDING WAYS TO MOVE FORWARD.I'M GONNA TRY OUT A FEW OF THOSE THINGS 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO BE STUCK BECAUSE, RIGHT.
UM, IT'S EASY FOR ME TO COME HERE AND YELL EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS.
IT'S HARDER TO MAKE REAL PROGRESS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH A LOT OF THE STUFF HAPPENING IN THE REGION AND WITH THE COMP PLAN, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, I WANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT TO, UH, CHANGE TACK A LITTLE BIT.
YOU KNOW, THE REASON BEING IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMING UP ON THE YOU COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND, UH, THERE'S ISSUES WITH DART.
THERE'S OTHER ISSUES OR THERE'S OTHER DECISIONS YOU GUYS WILL BE MAKING THAT COULD DECIDE THE FUTURE OF THE, OF THE CITY AND IN PART THE REGION.
AND THAT'S A VERY POWERFUL THING AND IT'S A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY.
SO WHAT I DO WANT US TO THINK ABOUT AND REALIZE IS THAT WE DO HAVE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS AND THAT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHY GIVEN WHAT PLANO AND IRVING ARE TRYING TO DO, WHY WE WOULD BE NERVOUS, WHY WE WOULD WANT TO BE ON THE DEFENSIVE.
UM, AND I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND HOPEFULLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET TOGETHER OVER THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS TO, TO A FEW MONTHS TO REALLY TALK ABOUT THAT, EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY.
UM, REGARDLESS OF WHERE WE STOOD BEFORE, THINGS IN THE PAST.
UM, BECAUSE IN MY WORK WITH THE TRANSIT ALLIANCE, UH, YOU KNOW, FOUNDING IT AND LEADING IT FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, I'VE WORKED WITH A LOT OF VERY PASSIONATE PEOPLE.
THEY'RE SCARED THEY'RE GONNA LOSE THE SERVICE THAT MATTERS TO THEM.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY THEY MIGHT COME AND BE ANGRY OR SAY THESE THINGS IS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT SURE.
AND WHILE I THINK DART IS THE MOST VIABLE THING THAT WE'VE GOT GOING, I KNOW IT'S NOT PERFECT.
SO WORKING ON THAT AND REALIZING THAT A CONVERSATION NEEDS TO BE HAD, SIR, ABOUT WHERE WE GO.
THAT SAID, I WANT TO TALK TO Y'ALL ABOUT MICROT TRANSIT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT FILLS THE VACUUM THAT, THAT THAT WILL BE LEFT AS AN ADDITION ABSOLUTELY.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THESE CHOICES COMING UP, I HOPE WE CAN HAVE A DIALOGUE GOING AHEAD.
UH, SOMETHING THAT DISAPPOINTED ME WITH PLANO IS THEY, THEY JUST CAME OUT OF CLOSED SESSIONS AND CALLED THE ELECTION.
I THINK ADDISON CAN SHOW LEADERSHIP HERE AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT BEFORE WE CALL IT, BECAUSE YOU GUYS DO HAVE TILL MARCH TO CALL IT FOR MAY.
AND YOU CAN ALSO CALL IT FOR NOVEMBER, LOT OF TIME TO TALK.
SO COME TALK WITH ME, I'LL REACH OUT TO Y'ALL.
HAVE A GOOD THANKSGIVING AND WE'LL ALL GET TOGETHER.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? HI, MY NAME IS CURTIS GREEN.
I LIVE AT 1 5 8 0 0 SPECTRUM DRIVE.
UM, KIND OF SIMILAR BUT DIFFERENT TO THE STARTER'S POINT.
UM, YOU KNOW, REASON I, I GIVE COMMENTS HERE.
I, YOU KNOW, I CRITICIZE, UH, ADDISON OR CRITICIZE DART OR WHATEVER IS, IS 'CAUSE OF CARE AND I, I WANT THINGS TO BE BETTER.
AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, DIALOGUE AND TALKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE THINGS BETTER IS VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, AND FROM THAT, AND, UM, YEAH, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE DART PULLOUT ELECTIONS AS WELL.
'CAUSE I THINK IT, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT OR VERY IMPACTFUL FOR, FOR THE REGION.
UM, THE FIRST THING, THE, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE HERE? THE MAIN IDEA IS, IS MONEY, RIGHT? OF COURSE, THE STATE'S BEEN CLAMPING DOWN ON REVENUE AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE'S LOOKING FOR EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, WAY TO SPEND LESS MONEY OR GET MORE FROM THE MONEY YOU HAVE.
UM, PLANO MADE SOME QUESTIONABLE FINANCIAL DECISIONS ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.
THEY IMPLEMENTED A SENIOR TAX FREEZE AND THEY HAVE AN AGING POPULATION, SO THEIR REVENUE'S GOING DOWN AND THEY PRETTY AGGRESSIVELY LOWERED THEIR TAX RATE.
SO THOSE IN KIND, THEIR, THEIR, UH, THEIR LIQUIDITY, THEIR, THEIR FINANCIAL, UM, THEIR REVENUE IS DOWN RELATIVE TO THEIR COSTS.
AND SO THEY NEED, THEY NEED MONEY, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PLACES.
AND SO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GETTING THE BEST AT YOUR TRANSIT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, BUT IS, IS WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING, UM, ACTUALLY DO THAT.
SO WHAT PLANO AND IRVING SAID THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS THEY'RE LOOKING AT VIA, SO VIA OPERATES IN A COUPLE CITIES, BASICALLY THEY DO ON DEMAND VANS, UM, FOR THEIR TRANSIT SERVICE, AND THEY OPERATE IN ARLINGTON.
DART DATA IS PUBLIC, SO YOU CAN LOOK AT IT ALL AND SEE THE SUBSIDY PER RIDER FOR VIA IS 50% HIGHER THAN FOR DART IT'S ABOUT $17 VERSUS 11.
AND SO WHEN, IF PLANO IRVING, LIKE THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA SAVE MONEY, THIS IS MORE EFFICIENT.
THE ONLY WAY THEY SAVE MONEY IS PROVIDING SIGNIFICANTLY LESS RIDES, WHICH I GUESS YOU COULD DO THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT, NOT REALLY MORE EFFICIENT, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S OPPOSITE.
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UM, PLANO COMMISSIONED THIS STUDY THROUGH ERNST AND YOUNG.I'M PRETTY SURE YOU GUYS HEARD ABOUT IT.
THEY, THEY SENT IT TO EVERYONE.
UM, AND THERE'S, UH, THERE'S SOME THINGS RIGHT WITH IT AND A LOT OF THINGS WRONG WITH IT.
THE BIGGEST THING IS THAT THE STUDY THAT THEY DO FOR COST ALLOCATION PER CITY DOESN'T INCLUDE THE SILVER LINE AT ALL.
AND SO WHEN THEY SHOW THESE COSTS, UM, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE 2.1 BILLIONS DOLLARS OF CONSTRUCTION COST, UH, OR OPERATING COST OR ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S SOME WEIRD STUFF TO DO WITH, UH, DEPRECIATION OF ASSETS.
UM, I READ THAT THE, THERE'S $700 MILLION OF DALLAS LIGHT RAIL ASSETS IS GONNA TURN TO ZERO IN NEXT YEAR ON THE BALANCE BOOKS.
AND I THINK IF YOU'RE, IF YOUR, IF YOUR ASSET MODEL JUST DROPS LIKE THAT, SOMETHING'S WRONG.
IT SHOULD, SHOULD AT LEAST BE LINEAR PAYOFF.
VIA A PUBLIC COMPANY, THE, TELL CURTIS, YOUR TIME IS UP.
ALRIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THIS ITEM AND, UH, MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER
[3. Council Member Clarification Requests Regarding Consent Agenda Items. ]
THREE.RE REQUEST REGARDING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS NEEDED, UH, BY COUNSEL ON CONSENT ITEMS? MAYOR, I'VE GOT A QUESTION REGARDING J AND K.
I KNOW JAMIE WAS HERE OR, OR BILL OR JAMIE? EITHER ONE.
UM, BILL, UH, SO THE QUESTION I HAD IS, UM, IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY FROM AN A QRD PERSPECTIVE, UM, ARE THEY GOING FROM A, A LEASEE TO A SUBTENANT IN BOTH, BOTH OF THESE ARE THESE THREE ADDRESSES? UH, YES SIR.
THAT, THAT IS, UH, BILL DYER WITH THE, UM, AIR AIRPORT, UM, UH, ASSISTANT AIRPORT DIRECTOR.
UH, THERE THE, UH, PREMIER IS ACQUIRING THE LEASEHOLD INTEREST.
A QRD WILL REMAIN AS, AS A SUBTENANT TO PREMIER.
UM, UNDER THE STRUCTURE, YOU SAID REMAIN, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BECOME A SUBTENANT, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.
A QRD IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS IT IS TODAY.
UM, AS A SUBTENANT UNDER PREMIER, UM, THEY HAVE A, UH, AFFILIATION UNDER, UH, UNDER THEIR MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UH, SO THERE'S, UH, ANOTHER KIND OF RELATIONSHIP THERE.
BUT AS FAR AS THE AIRPORT'S CONCERNED, IT DIRECT RELATIONSHIP IS A SUBTENANT TWO PREMIER.
PREMIER WOULD BECOME THE TENANT TO THE, UH, TOWN OF ADDISON.
AND, AND OBVIOUSLY, UH, A QRD IS A REALLY BIG TENANT, UM, AND AND BIG FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
DO WE HAVE ANY INSIGHT OF WHY THEY WOULD WANT TO DO THIS? UH, YES, SIR.
I MEAN, IT'S REALLY TO FOSTER MORE GROWTH FOR A QRD.
UM, AS IT WAS EXPLAINED TO US THAT, UH, A QRD IS UNDER ITS CURRENT OWNERSHIP, AS HAS PRETTY MUCH DONE AS, AS MUCH AS THEY CAN DO WITHOUT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND, AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT.
UM, AND, UH, WESTSTAR IS VERY WELL REGARDED WITHIN THE INDUSTRY.
THEY HAVE A, A VERY STRONG MAINTENANCE PRESENCE, WHICH IS REALLY A, A ADDED NEED FOR THE AIRPORT.
HERE IS A MAINTENANCE PRESENCE.
AND, AND WEST STAR WOULD BE, UH, ADDING TO THAT, WHICH IS AN AFFILIATE OF PREMIER WEST STAR OWNS PREMIER.
PREMIER WILL BE ACQUIRING THE LEASEHOLD INTEREST.
ANY OTHER, YEAH, CHRIS MAYOR FORESEE I HAVE QUESTIONS.
SO FOUR C HAS TO DO WITH AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND FLICK IT, USA, UM, OUR EVENT TICKETING PROCESS.
SO CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, UM, HOW, HOW WE'RE GETTING OUR TICKETS OUT NOW AND THEN WHAT THIS MIGHT DO FOR US? YES, SIR.
ABBY MORALES, UM, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEATER.
SO OUR CURRENT PLATFORM, UM, IS JUST A TICKETING PLATFORM, JUST LIKE FLICK IT IS, UM, WE SELL ALL OF OUR TICKETING, UM, THROUGH THAT.
UM, AND THEN WE PUSH OUT MESSAGING THROUGH THAT AS WELL.
UM, THE TRANSITION TO FLICK IT WILL ALLOW US TO ENHANCE SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, IT WILL ALSO ALLOW US TO CUSTOMIZE THE PAGES AND INCLUDE PHOTOS AS A PART OF THAT, WHICH IS NOT CURRENTLY SOMETHING THAT WE, UM, USE OR HAVE ACCESS TO WITH OUR CURRENT PLATFORM.
WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO DO A LOT OF PRE-SALE BECAUSE OF THE HANDS-ON MANAGEMENT THAT THE PLATFORM PROVIDES, WHICH WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE WITH OUR CURRENT PROVIDER.
WILL WE BE ABLE TO DO ELECTRONIC TICKETING FOR OUR CITIZENS? YES, SIR.
WE CAN DO BOTH ELECTRONIC AS WELL AS HARD TICKETS FOR THOSE THAT PREFER HARD RIGHT NOW, LIKE WHEN WE GIVE
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DISCOUNT DISCOUNTED TICKETS OR FREE TICKETS, WE'RE SENDING THOSE THROUGH THE MAIL.WILL THIS REPLACE THAT? YES, SIR.
SO IT, IT WILL REPLACE IT AS FAR AS THE PLATFORM THAT WE USE FOR ALL OF OUR TICKETING, BUT WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DO BOTH DIGITAL AS WELL AS HARD TICKETS.
I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ON THAT.
SO, UH, WHAT ALL, UM, EVENTS DOES WILL FLICK IT COVER? UM, CURRENTLY, UM, WHAT'S COVERED NOW BY OUR PLATFORM ARE THE BIG THREE, SO TASTE KABOOM AND, UM, OCTOBERFEST.
WE HAVE, UM, LAUNCHED OVER AND USED IT FOR THE ADDISON AND SOME OF THE TOWN CURATED PROGRAMMING AS WELL.
UM, WE WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LAUNCH OVER AND HAVE IT, IT BE OUR TICKETING PLATFORM FOR THE ADDISON WITH REGARDS TO SPECIFIC SEATS.
OUR CURRENT PLATFORM DOESN'T ALLOW THAT, UM, DOESN'T HAVE THAT CAPABILITY AND FLICK IT DOES.
AND YOU DID MENTION THE FISCAL IMPACT, UH, COULD BE A SAVINGS OF FIVE TO 12,000 AND IT SITS SPECIFICALLY ON OCTOBER FEST BASED ON THAT.
UM, SO IT WOULD BE, UM, CORRECT TO ASSUME THAT IT WOULD BE THE OTHER EVENTS COULD, COULD BE A, A LARGER SAVINGS? YES, SIR.
AND SO THE PLATFORM PAYS BY WAY OF NUMBER OF TICKETS SOLD.
UM, IT'S WHY THEY LOOKED AT WHAT WE OFFER AND CURRENTLY SELL WITH REGARDS TO TICKETS.
AND THEN THEY, THEY GET THEIR FUNDING BY, UM, THE NUMBER OF TICKETS THAT WE SELL.
THEY TAKE A PERCENTAGE OF THAT.
AND SO THE EXAMPLE THAT WE USED TO SHOW THE SAVINGS WAS JUST RECENTLY OFF OF OCTOBER FEST.
AND SO IT WOULD BE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF TICKETS SOLD.
SO IT COULD BE MUCH MORE THAN THAT WITH THE OTHER TWO EVENTS.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THE, UH, PERFORMA FOR, UM, THE EVENTS COMING UP NEXT YEAR.
IT'D BE NICE TO SEE SO WE CAN MEASURE HOW IT, UM, IMPACTS.
ANY OTHER, UH, RANDY, IS THERE FLEXIBILITY IN THE CONTRACT IF EVENTS CHANGE, IF WE ADD EVENTS OR, UH, REMOVE EVENTS, IT IT, WOULD THAT BE A BREACH OF THIS CONTRACT OR IS THERE A, IS THERE A FLEXIBILITY THERE FOR US TO, TO WORK WITHIN THAT FLEXIBILITY? YES, IT WOULD BE OUR PLATFORM FOR ANY TICKETING, UM, OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WERE LOOKING TO DO.
WE CURRENTLY WORK WITH PARKS AND RECREATION NOW WITH THE TICKETING PLATFORM WITH REGARDS TO THE CARRIAGE RIDES THAT COULD BE EXTENDED, UM, TO THAT AS WELL.
SO IT COVERS ALL OF OUR EVENTS, NOT JUST SPECIFIC ONES.
ANY OTHER CLARIFICATION OR QUESTIONS ON CONSENT? ALRIGHT.
ALRIGHT, UH, ITEM THREE A COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
UH, BEFORE COUNCIL MEETINGS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL SEND QUESTIONS TO STAFF, UH, AT TIMES AND THE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED, PUT INTO A DOCUMENT, ALL COMPILED INTO ONE DOCUMENT SENT TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND THAT SAME DOCUMENT IS ALSO UPLOADED TO THE WEBSITE.
SO ANYBODY CAN GO INTO THE, UH, TOWN WEBSITE, PULL UP THE AGENDA, AND THERE WILL BE A LINK TO THAT, UH, TO THAT DOCUMENT.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE SAME Q AND A THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AS WELL.
[a. Present and discuss the new Comprehensive Plan, Advance Addison 2050, which will replace the 2013 Comprehensive Plan, but maintain special area plans, as amended; establishing policy goals for land use, housing, transportation, economic development and community facilities.]
ITEM FOUR A, UH, THESE ARE WORK SESSION REPORTS.FOUR A IS PRESENTED, DISCUSS THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ADVANCE ADDISON 2050, WHICH WE'LL REPLACE THE 2013 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT MAINTAIN SPECIAL AREA PLANS AS AMENDED.
ESTABLISHING POLICY GOALS FOR LAND USE, HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES.
DAVID, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY A COUPLE WORDS BEFORE LESLIE STARTS FIRST.
CERTAINLY WANT TO THANK ALL THE STAFF THAT HAVE WORKED TO THIS POINT.
THE, UM, THE CPAC, THE COMMITTEE THAT WORKED ON THIS P AND Z AND THEIR EFFORTS TO THIS POINT.
UM, AND FOR COUNCIL, JUST TO KIND OF LEVEL SET AS YOU START THE WORK SESSION, WE ARE HERE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
LESLIE'S GONNA GO OVER WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHERE WE ARE, SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.
THEN IT'S FOR Y'ALL TO GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS, YOUR QUESTIONS AS WE GO FORWARD.
WE DO IT IS POTENTIALLY, IF WE LEAVE THIS WORK SESSION AND YOU'RE READY TO GO, WE CAN BRING THIS BACK ON THE NINTH FOR APPROVAL.
SO WE ALSO HAVE A PLACEHOLDER AT A JANUARY WORK SESSION IF THERE'S FOLLOW UP, IF YOU'D LIKE US TO COME BACK.
SO WE ARE HERE FOR THAT AS WELL.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY THAT AS YOU GO INTO IT, THERE'S NO PRESSURE THAT WE HAVE TO FIND IT ALL OUT TONIGHT.
ANY, UH, FOLLOW UP THAT YOU WOULD LIKE, WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT.
UM, BUT WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE IN JANUARY.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL HEAD HAND IT OVER TO LESLIE.
UH, LESLIE AND I, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
UM, AS DAVID MENTIONED, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, UH, ADVANCED ADDISON 2050, OUR, UM, POTENTIALLY THIRD COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN ADDISON'S HISTORY.
SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, UH, THIS EVENING, WE'RE GONNA TALK, UH, GO OVER OUR, THE PURPOSE AND THE PROCESS AS WELL AS JUST, UM, O OVERVIEW OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WHERE WE'RE, UH, HOW WE GOT TO TODAY.
AND THEN TALK A LITTLE BIT ALSO ABOUT NEXT STEPS.
UM, SO THIS IS THE OVERALL PROJECT TIMELINE.
UM, IF, UM, SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL, WE KICKED THIS PROJECT OFF IN FALL OF 2023.
UM, AT THAT TIME THERE WAS A COUNCIL KICKOFF MEETING, UM, AND THERE WAS, UH, THE APPOINTMENT OF CPAC OR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS A 25
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MEMBER, UM, COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDED BOTH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WELL AS RESIDENTS, UM, TO HELP ADVISE THIS PROCESS.SO WENT THROUGH THE VARIOUS PHASES OF THE PROJECT AS YOU SEE, UM, BEFORE YOU, AND WE ARE ON PHASE SIX, WHICH IS THE ADOPTION PHASE.
UH, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE'VE GOTTEN TO TONIGHT, UH, WITHIN PHASE SIX, UH, IN THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES.
ARE YOU FOLLOWING ALONG ON THIS WRITTEN FORM OR IS IT STRICTLY YOUR PRESENTATION HERE? IF I, IF I WERE TO FOLLOW ALONG ON THE, MY WRITTEN, MY HARD COPY THAT I HAVE NOTES IN, WOULD I BE ABLE TO DO THAT? UH, SO THIS IS A PRESENTATION THAT'S GIVING A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT KIND OF DAVID MENTIONED IS IF YOU HAVE SOME WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT, UH, YOU'RE, THAT'S MORE OF A DISCUSSION AT THE END, OR YOU CAN YEAH.
OR WE CAN FOLLOW UP, UM, AFTERWARD TOO.
AND WE WANNA ADDRESS ALL YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.
SO WHAT IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? SO IT IS A, UH, VISIONARY POLICY DOCUMENT THAT'S USED TO GUIDE, UM, LONG RANGE FUTURE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
THE PLANNING HORIZON FOR THIS DOCUMENT, UH, AS TITLED 2050 IS 25 YEARS.
UM, IT'S REALLY MEANT TO HELP GUIDE AND NOT ESTABLISH REGULATORY, UM, STANDARDS, BUT POLICY GUIDANCE.
UM, THERE ARE THREE MAJOR SECTIONS.
UM, THE INTRODUCTION AT THE BEGINNING, WHICH KIND OF SETS UP WHERE ADDISON IS TODAY, KIND OF A DEMOGRAPHIC HISTORY AND OVERVIEW.
AND THEN IT MOVES INTO, UM, THE BULK OF THE PLAN, WHICH, UM, IS THE MAJOR PLANNING COMPONENTS INCLUDING LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THERE, THERE'S HOUSING, MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY.
AND THEN THE FINAL SECTION IS IMPLEMENTATION.
AND THAT'S WHERE, UH, THE HEART OF THE DOCUMENT IS THAT SAYS, HERE'S ALL THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE OUR GOALS.
THAT'S WHAT THE IMPLEMENTATION IS.
UH, REALLY THE ACTION ITEMS TO CREATE THIS, UH, MAKE THIS VISION COME TO LIFE IN ADDISON.
AND OBVIOUSLY A, A CORE FOCUS HOLISTICALLY, THIS IS A VISIONARY PLAN, IS HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ALIGN WITH OUR VISION SO THAT IT CAN TO COME TO LIFE, HELP SUPPORT THAT VISION TO COME TO LIFE.
UM, SO WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS? AS I MENTIONED, WE STARTED FALL OF 2023.
UM, WE'VE HAD, AND WE'LL COVER SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, BUT WE HAD, UM, MANY FOCUS GROUPS ENGAGING THE BUSINESS, UH, RESIDENT COMMUNITY, UH, CPAC, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY, CITY COUNCIL THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, MANY, UH, WORK SESSIONS WITH TOWN STAFF AS WELL AS A CONSULTANT GROUP WHO, UM, HELPED US THROUGH THE PROCESS UP UNTIL FEBRUARY OF 2025 AS WELL.
SO THIS IS THE VARIOUS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT HAS OCCURRED SINCE THE, UH, PROJECT KICKOFF, UM, IN APPROXIMATELY, UH, OCTOBER OF 2023.
AND, UM, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DIRECT ENGAGEMENTS WITH COUNCIL P AND Z, ALSO SEVERAL JOINT MEETINGS, UM, BOTH WITH P AND Z AND COUNCIL AS WELL AS CPAC.
UH, WE HAD 12 DIFFERENT, UH, CA, UH, COMMITTEE MEETINGS AS WELL TO ENGAGE WITH THEM AND SEEK THEIR FEEDBACK.
SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS, UH, COMMUNITY SURVEYS, FOCUS GROUPS, WORKSHOPS, AS WELL AS POPUPS AND, UM, MEETINGS IN A BOX, WHICH THOSE WERE LIKE A TAKE HOME.
UM, SO NEIGHBORS COULD LEAD A MEETING COLLECTIVELY AT THEIR HOMES TOGETHER AND THEN PROVIDE US FEEDBACK AFTER THE FACT.
UM, THROUGHOUT ALL OF THAT, UM, WE HAD, UM, NEARING 3,200 PEOPLE ENGAGED IN THE FIELD THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
AND WE SENT OVER 15,000 DIRECT MAILERS TO EVERY RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS IN ADDISON, UM, TO HELP SEEK THEIR FEEDBACK THROUGH OUR VARIOUS ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS.
AND SO THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES ARE GOING TO, UM, WE'RE GONNA REVIEW SEQUENTIALLY OF AS WHAT HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
SO AFTER ALL OF THAT ENGAGEMENT, AFTER A DRAFT PLAN WAS PRESENTED AND REVIEWED, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE DID, UH, VOTE UNANIMOUSLY TO SUPPORT THE DRAFT IN MAY OF 2025.
UM, IT WAS AT THEIR APRIL 30TH MEETING.
AND THAT THEN STARTED OFF OUR PUBLIC REVIEW OF THE DRAFT, UM, THROUGH THE MONTH OF MAY.
UM, WE DID, UH, WE AN UPTICK IN OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
WE DID HAVE A, UH, WHAT'S THE SCOOP EVENT AT THE STONE COTTAGE AS WELL TO GATHER FEEDBACK AND ANSWER QUESTIONS, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, SOLICIT OTHER, UM, FORMS OF ENGAGEMENT SUCH AS ON THE TOWN WEBSITE, NEWSLETTER AND SO FORTH.
AND THEN MOVING ON THROUGH THE, UM, PUBLIC, UH, REVIEW PROCESS, UH, THERE WERE SEVERAL CHANGES THAT WERE INCORPORATED BASED UPON THE, THAT FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED IN MOVING INTO THE NEXT DRAFT.
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THE MAJOR CHANGES DURING THIS TIME PERIOD WAS THE REMOVAL OF THE EDUCATIONAL CONCEPTS SECTION.SO THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED WAS THAT THAT SECTION WAS A BIT CONFUSING BECAUSE SOME OF THEM, IT WAS, UM, IT WAS PLANNING CONCEPTS AND SOME OF THEM DIDN'T APPLY TO ADDISON OR IT MAY NOT BE AS APPLICABLE TO ADDISON AS SOME OF OUR SUBURBAN, UM, NEIGHBORS FURTHER UP NORTH.
SO IT GET A LITTLE, GOT A LITTLE CONFUSING ABOUT HOW THIS APPLIED TO ADDISON AND WHEN IT WAS APPLICABLE AND MAYBE NOT APPLICABLE.
UM, SO IN ORDER TO MAKE IT MORE STREAMLINED, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT PERTAINS DIRECTLY TO ADDISON, UM, WE DID, UH, CHOOSE TO REMOVE THAT SECTION.
THERE WERE SOME OTHER CLARIFICATION UPDATES, UM, CONTINUING TO UPDATE ANY CLERICAL ERRORS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED.
AND, UM, WE REMOVED A FEW, UM, IRRELEVANT, UM, GRAPHICS AND PHOTOS THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT.
SO AFTER THAT PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD AND, AND SOME MODIFICATIONS BASED UPON THE PUBLIC INPUT, WE MOVED ON TO REVIEW BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
THAT WAS PRIMARILY THROUGH THE MONTHS OF, UM, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.
UH, WE DID, THERE WAS SEVERAL, UM, CONSTRUCTIVE, SOME CONSTRUCTION FEEDBACK AND GOOD, UM, CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE DOCUMENT BASED UPON THE COMP, THE, EXCUSE ME, THE COMMISSION'S FEEDBACK.
TWO OF THOSE, UM, INCLUDE THE, UH, EX EXPANSION OF OUR LAND USE FISCAL ANALYSIS SECTION, AS WELL AS SEE SOME MODIFICATIONS AND CLARIFICATION LANGUAGE RELATING TO OUR 2017 HOUSING POLICY.
I'M GONNA GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE CHANGES AND HOW THEY IMPACTED.
UM, AND BEFORE I, UM, SHARE THIS, I WILL NOTE THAT THESE CHANGES WERE INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU.
UM, SO I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT YOU SEE WHAT CHANGES THE COMMISSION MADE.
UM, SO ONE THING THAT WAS NEW THAT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY IN THE DRAFT, UM, IS AN EXPANSION ON THE TOTAL REVENUE PER ACRE METHODOLOGY.
SO THE, UH, LAND USE FISCAL ANALYSIS OR LUPA DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SOME, UM, ANCILLARY, UH, REVENUE SOURCES.
AND SO THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, PARTNERING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOK INTO ACCOUNT A HOLISTIC, UM, UH, PICTURE OF ALL REVENUE AIRPORT INCLUDED.
AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS, UM, IMPLEMENTATION INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THIS DRAFT, OR EXCUSE ME, THIS GRAPH INCLUDED IN THE DOCUMENT THAT HELPS IDENTIFY THE VARIOUS TYPES OF LAND USE, THE VARIOUS REVENUE SOURCES, AS WELL AS THE, UM, LAND USE CATEGORIES CORRESPONDING WITHIN THE PLAN.
AND THEN RELATION TO THE HOUSING POLICY CLARIFICATION, THERE WERE THREE LOCATIONS THAT THIS WAS, UM, ADDED.
SO WE HAVE A GRAPHIC HERE, UM, IN THE RELATED PLANS AND INITIATIVE SECTION THAT CLEARLY IDENTIFY THIS AS O OTHER TOWN, UH, REGULATION.
UH, WE ALSO ADD SOME, ADDED SOME CLARIFICATION IN THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX RELATED TO, UH, ONE OF THE ACTION ITEMS TO, UM, SUPPORT MORE HOUSING TYPES, UM, AS SPECIFICALLY AS DESCRIBED WITHIN THE HOUSING POLICY.
AND THEN THE THIRD UPDATE WAS TO, UM, SPECIFICALLY REFERENCE AND LINK DIRECTLY TO IT AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN THE HOUSING SECTION ABOUT EMBRACING SOME HIGHER INTENSITY OWNERSHIP OPTIONS IN ADDISON.
SO AFTER THAT, UM, AFTER A COUPLE OF WORK SESSIONS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH PNZ AND INCORPORATION OF THOSE, THEIR COMMENTS, WHICH I JUST, UM, WENT OVER AT THE REGULAR MEETING ON OCTOBER 21ST, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORT, UM, THE DRAFT WITH THE CONDITION OF THOSE OF THOSE ITEMS BEING INCORPORATED.
UH, WHICH STAFF DID INCORPORATE IN THE DRAFT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU, UH, FOR REVIEW ON OCTOBER 23RD.
SO, UM, SINCE COUNSEL'S HAD THE DRAFT, UH, WE HAVE, I'VE RECEIVED, UM, TWO QUESTIONS FOR SOME CLARIFICATION.
I'VE INCLUDED THEM HERE, UM, AND PREPARED TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK AND WOULD ENCOURAGE ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK YOU ALL HAVE, UH, AND THEN KIND OF MOVE INTO MORE OPEN DISCUSSION.
SO THE TWO QUESTIONS THAT I'VE RECEIVED IS, CAN WE ADD THE EXISTING ZONING MAP AND OR EXISTING LAND USE MAP WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? AND THE SECOND WAS THAT, CAN THE EXISTING LAND USES INCLUDING THE AIRPORT, BE BROKEN DOWN BY CATEGORY AND HIGHLIGHTED IN THE PLAN? SO, UM, THE FIRST QUESTION, SO IT'S PRETTY, IT'S NOT COMMON THAT YOU WOULD INCLUDE A ZONING, UH, OR EXISTING LAND USE, UH, MAP WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT.
UM, THOSE THINGS LIVE IN A, UH, A I'M JUST SAYING
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CONSTANTLY IN FLUX 'CAUSE WE'RE UPDATING THEM AS ZONING CHANGES.UM, AND WE TAKE CASES TO COUNCIL.
SO IF WE WERE TO INCORPORATE IT IN THIS PLAN, IT WOULD QUICKLY BECOME OUTDATED.
SO IF SOMEONE WAS TO REFUTE, REFER TO THIS PLAN TO TRY TO IDENTIFY, I WANNA DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY, WHAT IS ADDISON INTERESTED IN AS A FUTURE GOAL, THEY MAY SEE THAT, AND ACTUALLY IT COULD BE AN ERROR.
UM, SO WE WOULD, UH, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, ENCOURAGE THEM TO VISIT OUR ONLINE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MAP, WHICH WE UPDATE ON A REGULAR BASIS, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HAS THE LATEST AND GREATEST INFORMATION.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT INFO, THAT INFORMATION IS REFERENCED IN THIS DOCUMENT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MAP ITSELF IN WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT.
AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION WAS, UH, REGARDING THE BREAKDOWN OF EXISTING LAND USES.
AND SO ON PAGE 82 OF THE DOCUMENT, WE DO HAVE A CURRENT LAND USE BREAKDOWN.
UM, IT'S ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS GRAPHIC HERE AND IT IS A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL.
UM, IT DOES NOT GO INTO GREAT DETAIL.
THE ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS, UM, THE AIRPORT ISN'T PARSED OUT AS A SEPARATE LAND USE.
UM, THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY, UM, MODIFY THIS GRAPHIC TO BREAK THAT DOWN FURTHER AND HIGHLIGHT ADDITIONAL DETAIL.
UM, BUT I'D BE INTERESTED IN HEARING FEEDBACK ON THAT.
UM, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL'S INTERESTED, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE.
YEAH, LET ME JUMP IN IF I COULD.
THAT WAS THE QUESTION I ASKED IT.
MY QUESTION WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, UH, THAN WHAT YOU'VE PUT ON THIS SLIDE.
UM, AND I'LL GET TO IT IS WHEN I LOOKED, WHEN I LOOKED AT PAGE 82, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING FOR THE AIRPORT.
THE AIRPORT REPRESENTS MAYBE ROUGHLY 12.5% MM-HMM
AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
I MEAN IT'S HUGE PERCENTAGE, UM, AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO TO ME IT'S THAT SHOULD MM-HMM
I WAS ALSO LOOKING FOR RETAIL.
IS RETAIL SHOWN IN SOME OTHER CATEGORY? MAYBE I'M MISSING THAT.
IT IS INCLUDED IN UNDER COMMERCIAL.
UM, AND THEN, YEAH, THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, UM, RESIDENTIAL MM-HMM
AND, AND SO WE'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL 24.6%.
AND THE QUESTION I HAD WAS, SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE SHOW THE SEPARATION OF OWNERSHIP, RESIDENTIAL VERSUS RENTAL? UM, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET ANY, ANY MORE DETAIL THAN THAT, BUT I THINK IF WE DID, WHAT WHAT YOU'D FIND IS, IS UH, OWNERSHIP WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE 10.9% AND UH, UH, MULTIFAMILY OR RENTAL WOULD BE LIKE 10.01, 10.1%, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT BASICALLY IF, IF THAT MADE SENSE AND YOU SHOWED THAT, WHAT IT WOULD SHOW IS, UH, REAL, A BETTER REALISTIC VIEW OF A VERY DIVERSIFIED ECONOMY, WHICH WE HAVE.
AND THAT'S THAT THOSE WERE THE THOUGHTS I HAD BECAUSE IF I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE NOT HAVING AIRPORT, UM, IN THE LAND USE BREAKDOWN.
SO THOSE, THOSE WERE THE, THE TWO THOUGHTS IS AT AIRPORT AND, AND SHOULD WE SHOW, UH, RESIDENTIAL OWNERSHIP VERSUS RENTAL.
WERE YOU AT THE END OF YOUR PRESENTATION THEN? I HAVE I THINK ONE MORE SLIDE.
SO I GUESS MY ONLY COMMENT OH YEAH.
TO MARLIN, SORRY, IS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LAND USE PRODUCTIVITY, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOURCES OF REVENUE TO THE GENERAL FUND OR ARE YOU JUST TALKING ABOUT REVENUE IN GENERAL? BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENS AT THE AIRPORT STAYS IN THE AIRPORT FUND, SORRY.
SO THIS, THIS PARTICULAR, UM, SECTION IS NOT NECESSARILY IN RELATION TO THE LAND USE FISCAL ANALYSIS.
THIS IS JUST WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF LAND MASS AND HOW IS IT USED? SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, UM, FOR, FOR THIS AN THIS ANALYSIS, UM, IT'S NOT TARGETING REVENUE, IT'S JUST TARGETING LAND USE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT I SEE ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
UM, SO YEAH, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE, THAT'S NOT, UM, NECESSARILY A PART OF THIS PARTICULAR ANALYSIS, JUST HOW MUCH LAND DO WE HAVE AND HOW ARE WE USING IT.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE AT THE, UM, IT SAYS 4.8 IS UNDEVELOPED, AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, WHICH IS THE SECOND GRAPH, THAT'S THE BREAKDOWN OF THE ZONING OF THAT 4.8% THAT'S LEFT OVER.
ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA GO TO THE LAST SLIDE.
SO, UM, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF NEXT STEPS.
SO, UH, TONIGHT HERE TO DISCUSS OBVIOUSLY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PROVIDE ANY FEEDBACK.
AND THEN TENTATIVELY LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY COMING BACK FOR ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON DECEMBER 9TH, UH, WHETHER IT'S PROPOSED, UM, CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTION OR ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK.
UM, AND WE CAN ALWAYS, AS DAVID MENTIONED, WE HAVE, UM, SOME DATES YOU'RE MARKED IN JANUARY FOR,
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TO EXTEND OR MODIFY THE TIMELINE AS NECESSARY.AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
AND, AND MARLON, I JUST HAVE A COMMENT ON, ON YOUR, THE SECOND QUESTION YOU HAD ABOUT, UH, SEGMENTING THE RENTALS, RESIDENTIAL RENTALS RESIDENTIAL.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU THINKING MORE ABOUT PROPERTY TYPES AS MULTIFAMILY AS OPPOSED TO SINGLE FAMILY? BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVE RENTALS THAT ARE MIXED IN WITH YES.
GOOD, GOOD, GOOD, GOOD QUESTION.
I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THAT ALSO ON THAT GRAPH.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL.
ALRIGHT, SO QUESTIONS, RANDY? YES SIR.
AND IT'S KIND OF ALONG THESE LINES, YOU'VE, UH, KIND OF GOT A, A, A, A GRAPHIC THERE AND YOU HAVE MULTI-FAMILY.
UH, SHOULDN'T WE, I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE PUT ALL MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS, TOWN HOMES, CONDOS, TOWN HOMES THAT MAY BE, UH, PRIVATELY OWNED CONDOS THAT MAY BE OWNED, LUMPED THEM IN WITH, WITH APARTMENT RENTALS.
IS THAT, AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? THAT THAT ALL MULTIFAMILY OR IS THERE SEPARATE? SO THAT'S BASED UPON THE, UM, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
OH, DAVID, I'LL, I'LL ANSWER THAT AND STEVEN CAN CORRECT ME.
SO THIS IS BASED ON THE COMP REPORT.
SO TOWN HOMES ARE GONNA BE IN SINGLE FAMILY, MULTI-FAMILY IS GONNA BE WHAT YOU THINK OF WHEN YOU THINK OF RENTAL MULTI-FAMILY.
WHAT ABOUT, OKAY, JUST ONE LITTLE STEP ON YEAH, WE DO HAVE SOME DUPLEXES IN TOWN.
THEY'RE ARE, ARE THEY ALSO SINGLE FAMILY, UM, CONSIDERED A SINGLE FAMILY HOME EVEN THOUGH CORRECT.
AND I, I DO SEE A, A DOLLAR FIGURE ON TOP OF THESE GRAPHS.
SO IS THAT SHOWING TO, TO CHRIS'S POINT, THE OTHER ONE WAS JUST SHOWING LAND USE, CORRECT.
SO THIS TAKES, UM, THE, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT DATA SOURCES.
THERE'S, UM, THE DALLAS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.
SO IT'S TAKING DATA FROM, UM, THOSE SOURCES AND PROVIDING OUR REVENUE BASED UPON THE LAND USE AND, AND THE DIFFERENT, UM, REVENUE SOURCES AS WELL.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT JUST, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S NOT JUST AD FLOOR AND PROPERTY TAX.
THERE'S ALSO ANCILLARY FEES LIKE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.
WE HAVE, UM, OTHER AT THE AIRPORT AND SPECIFICALLY WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER FORMS OF REVENUE AS WELL.
AND THAT LEADS, AS I'M READING THROUGH THIS AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND GRASP, I'M NOT SEEING WHERE WE'RE GETTING OUR DATA FROM.
AND IT, IT'S REALLY NOT, IT'S NOT, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHERE WE GOT THIS OTHER THAN THIS IS WHAT THIS IS MM-HMM
FOR TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND, AND RESEARCH AND, AND PUT, PUT THE NUMBERS TOGETHER AND, AND MAKE 'EM MAKE SENSE.
AND, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WHEN WE DO A REPORT LIKE THIS, IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE SENT TO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEY CAN LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE COMING UP WITH THEIR NUMBERS INSIDE THE DOCUMENT.
SO, SO I WOULD JUST, ON THIS, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT, SEE ANY OTHER EXAMPLES YOU HAVE.
BUT IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART, IF YOU JUST ZOOM IN ON THE BOTTOM, BOTTOM HAS THE DATA SOURCES FOR, FOR ALL THAT, IF YOU HAVE OTHER EXAMPLES, PLEASE LET US KNOW ABOUT THOSE HATS.
OKAY, THIS IS NOT THE ONE I WAS REFERRING TO, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER DATA AND I, SORRY ABOUT THE BUTTON.
SOME OF THE OTHER DATA, UH, I, I'M GOING TO HAVE QUESTIONS ON LATER.
SO, AND I WILL BRING THOSE UP AS QUESTIONS.
I SAY QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.
SO IF I'M A HOMEOWNER, I DECIDE TO RENT MY HOME OUT, IT BECOMES A LEASED PROPERTY.
THERE'S A, A FEE FOR THAT FOR THE YEAR.
DOES THAT SWITCH THE CATEGORY FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY? NO.
SO THIS ISN'T, UM, SO IT'S, THINK OF IT AS THE TYPE OF PROPERTY IT IS NOT NECESSARILY HOW WE WOULD REGULATE IT.
UM, 'CAUSE THIS IS NOT, THIS IS FROM THE COMPTROLLER DATA BASED UPON TAX COLLECTION.
SO IF IT'S A FEE SIMPLE, LIKE SINGLE FAMILY HOME, REGARDLESS OF IF IT'S OWNER OCCUPIED OR RENTED, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE UNDER THE SAME CATEGORY.
HOWEVER, YOU MAY, IF IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S OWNER OCCUPIED, YOU MAY HAVE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OR OTHER THINGS WHICH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S LOCAL.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE DIFFERENT DIFFERENTIATION OCCURS.
MARLON, YOUR LIGHT WAS ON MINUTE AGO.
YOU, YOU DIDN'T, WAS THAT JUST LEFT OVER? OKAY.
YEAH, RANDY, JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION, I THOUGHT YOU CLARIFIED FOR ME WHILE AGO, AND NOW I'M A LITTLE BIT UNCLARIFIED WITH DAN'S QUESTION ON IF HIS HOME GOES BACK INTO RENTAL, GOING TO COMMERCIAL
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MULTIFAMILY.I THINK WHEN I LOOK AT A TOWNHOUSE COMPLEX THAT HAS 30 UNITS IN IT THAT LOOKS MULTIFAMILY TO ME, A CONDOMINIUM THAT IS A HIGH RISE THAT HAS A HUNDRED UNITS IN IT MM-HMM
SO IT TRY TO CLARIFY MY THEN ON WHAT IT'S BEING USED FOR OR, OR WHAT, WHAT YOUR ANSWER TO DAN WAS ON THAT PLEASE.
SO I'LL, I'LL JUMP IN BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT EARLIER, WE'RE WE'RE USING A DATA SOURCE THAT ANYONE CAN ACCESS THAT'S READILY AVAILABLE.
SO WE'RE USING THAT DATA FROM THE COMPTROLLER AND WE'RE DESCRIBING TO YOU HOW THE COMPTROLLER IDENTIFIES THOSE.
SO THEY'RE NOT GOING INTO EACH HOUSE SAYING, IS THIS RENTAL OR NOT.
NOW THEY KNOW IF IT HAS A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, RIGHT? MM-HMM
SOMEBODY'S FILED ONE, SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE TYPE.
SO IT COULD BE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, IT COULD BE A DUPLEX THAT'S RENTED OUT.
BUT IF, IF IT'S THOSE ARE GONNA FALL INTO A SINGLE FAMILY CATEGORY.
SO FROM THE COMPTROLLER, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THAT LEVEL THAT WE MAY HAVE WHERE WE CAN SAY THEY FILED A REGISTRATION FORM X, Y, OR Z BECAUSE IT'S EASIER AND IT'S BETTER, TO YOUR POINT EARLIER OF USING A DATA SOURCE THAT ANYONE CAN GET TO.
SO WE CAN CERTAINLY A, A ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY GO.
BUT AS FAR AS WHY THESE WERE USED IS TO TRY TO USE COMPTROLLER DATA THAT'S OUT THERE FOR ANYBODY TO USE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
IT IT'S AN UNDERSTANDABLE QUESTION THOUGH.
BECAUSE I MEAN, I, I CAN LOOK AT MERIDIAN PLAZA FOR INSTANCE.
IT IT'S A CONDO MID-RISE OR WHATEVER, HOWEVER THEY CLASSIFY THAT AND THERE LOOKS KIND OF RESEMBLES, UH, AN APARTMENT BUILDING.
SO I DON'T, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT, THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DETERMINE THAT, WHETHER IT'S OWNERSHIP OR, OR WHAT, BUT, UM, BUT YEAH.
COULD WE PUT A KEY ON THERE, A LEGEND TO DEFINE WHAT MULTIFAMILY IS AND SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT MAY HAVE QUESTIONS? YEAH.
JUST A FOOTNOTE OR SOMETHING JUST TO CLARIFY IT.
AND I'D BE, UH, IN FAVOR OF, UH, ON 82 OF THE PLAN ADDING THE, UM, AIRPORTS, UH, CURRENT LAND USE IN THERE ALSO.
COULD YOU DO THAT? I, I GUESS THIS IS ALONG THE SAME LINES BACK ON 11.
SO IF YOU HAVE AN A BUILDING, A HIGH RISE BUILDING OR A MERIDIAN OR AVEN, AAV AVEN, AVEN, THERE'S A LOT OF HOMES ON THAT ACREAGE.
SO THAT'S REALLY GONNA SKEW THIS 24,000.
THAT'S 24,200 PER ACRE AVERAGE.
SO IN A, IN A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU'VE GOT THREE OR FOUR HOMES TOGETHER, MAKE UP AN ACRE, I'M LOOKING AT THAT SAYING, OKAY, THEY'RE ABOUT 6,000 A YEAR FOR PROPERTY TAXES.
OR IF YOU HAVE AN ACRE LOT THAT'S 24,000 FOR, FOR YOUR TAXES.
BUT THOSE BUILDINGS ARE GONNA SKEW THAT NUMBER.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE IN THERE.
SO THIS NUMBER WOULD BE SMALLER IF WE TOOK THOSE BUILDINGS OUT THAT HAVE MULTIPLE RESIDENTS IN THEM? YEAH, AND I WOULD, YES.
AND I WOULD ADD THAT FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, THE CONVERSATION THAT WE RECENTLY HAD ON TOWN HOMES REALLY DOVETAILS WITH THAT VERY WELL.
AS WE SAY, HEY, WE ARE PRIORITIZING OWNERSHIP AND FEE SIMPLE, BUT WE UNDERSTAND AS WE DO THAT THEY'RE LIKELY GONNA BE DENSER SINGLE FAMILY.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE DENSER SINGLE FAMILY, IT MAKES THAT NUMBER INCREASE.
SO WE'RE GETTING MORE PER ACRE ON OUR SINGLE FAMILY THAT YOU ALREADY SEE IN MULTIFAMILY 'CAUSE YOU HAVE MORE DENSITY RIGHT.
SO IT DOES MAKE THAT NUMBER LARGER.
THE MORE THAT WE INVEST AND THE MORE THAT WE HAVE FOLKS COME IN AND BUILD THOSE DEVELOPMENTS, WELL MAYBE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT MANY DEVELOPMENTS.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT THE 24,000 PER ACRE SEEMED REASONABLE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND IT, IF YOU HAVE BUILDINGS AND, AND I JUST ASSUME THEY WERE IN THE MULTI-FAMILY, BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE DEFINITELY IN THAT FIRST CALL TOWN HOMES IN GENERAL.
WE CAN LOOK AT ANY SPECIFIC ONE AND AND AND CLARIFY IT WITH THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
BUT IN GENERAL, TOWN HOMES ARE GONNA BE IN THAT SINGLE FAMILY.
AND ADV VENTURA, WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT CONDOMINIUMS OR IS THAT TOWNHOUSES? THEY BE IN A SINGLE FAMILY? CORRECT.
WELL WE CAN GO CHECK, RIGHT? SO WE CAN GET THAT SOURCE AND WE ABSOLUTELY CAN.
WHERE THEY HAVE A CLASS CLASSIFY.
I WE ARE FAIRLY CERTAIN THEY ARE, BUT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY CHECK.
WELL THE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WELL, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THIS SLIDE.
SO I HAVEN'T FINISHED READING THE COMP PLAN.
I'VE SKIPPED AROUND, I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT.
WHAT I'VE GOTTEN FROM IT, UH, JUST ONE ASPECT IS THERE'S QUITE A BIT IN IT ABOUT WALKABILITY.
CONNECTABILITY, BICYCLES, MOBILITY BASICALLY.
AND IT SEEMS TO BE, AND I DON'T MEAN TO START A PROBLEM,
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BUT IT SEEMS TO BE ANTI-CAR AND IN FAVOR OF WALKING BIKES AND TRANSIT.SO I MEAN IT GOES TO 2050 AND HERE WE ARE IN 2025.
I'M THE OLDEST ONE ON THIS COUNCIL.
I'LL JUST ADMIT IT 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT I AM NOW I I LIKE TO DRIVE MY CAR.
AND I DO THINK I REPRESENT SOME PEOPLE IN THE TOWN.
I DON'T THINK I'M JUST A ONE OFF, BUT MAYBE I AM.
WHEN I DRIVE ANYWHERE, GROCERY STORE, MOVIES, HARDWARE STORE, RESTAURANT, I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THE CLOSEST PARKING PLACE I CAN FIND TO THE FRONT DOOR OF THAT BUILDING.
AND I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO DRIVE.
NOW I'M NOT OPPOSED TO WALKABILITY, BUT I JUST DON'T SEE PEOPLE WALKING FROM LIKE MARSH ALL THE WAY TO WYNWOOD OR FROM THE CIRCLE ALL THE WAY TO SPRING VALLEY.
I MEAN, WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THERE'S PLENTY OF WALKABILITY.
MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY WALKABLE.
PEOPLE WALK ON THE TRAILS, PEOPLE WALK ON OUR STREET.
AND OUR STREET IS VERY BUSY WITH WALKING, BUT IT'S PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
CARS ARE IMPORTANT FOR GETTING FROM PLACE TO PLACE.
AND I DON'T MEAN WITHIN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I MIGHT ACTUALLY DRIVE TO RANDY'S HOUSE, BUT I COULD WALK.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S SUCH A FOCUS ON WALKABILITY AND IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S A MOVEMENT TO TAKE CARS AWAY.
I THINK THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WOULD THINK WE NEED MORE CARS ON THE STREETS ARE THE CAR DEALERSHIPS.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE WANTS MORE TRAFFIC.
WE ALL COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
SO THE BUSES AND THE BIKES OR, AND THE TRAINS OR TO TAKE CARS OFF THE ROADS, WHICH WE ALL APPRECIATE.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THE FOCUS IN IT SEEMS TO BE TOWARD A MOVEMENT OF GETTING RID OF CARS.
AND MAYBE IN 25 YEARS THAT'S WHERE SOCIETY WILL BE.
I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO WALK OR DRIVE IN 25 YEARS.
SO MAYBE I SHOULDN'T EVEN COMMENT, BUT I JUST, AS I READ THROUGH IT, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT'S HEADED.
I WENT THROUGH, I SAW YOUR SLIDE ON ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONE INTO CREATING THIS AND ALL THAT INPUT.
AND I JUST AM I THE WEIRD ONE THAT JUST DOESN'T WANT TO GET RID OF MY CAR AND I, I I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE.
THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT IS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE THE BIBLE TO TELL THIS MM-HMM
TOWN OR THIS COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE WHERE THIS TOWN'S GOING.
THAT'S WHAT I GET OUT OF THIS.
SO I JUST WANTED, I DON'T, I GUESS I'M ASKING AM I THE ONLY ONE? I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A A COMMENT ON THAT.
UM, OR YOU WANT GO, GO AHEAD CHRIS.
IF YOU LIKE YOUR, YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN, HOWARD.
UM, BUT I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE, THE CONNECTIVITY ADDED IN THE PLAN.
I MIGHT NOT WALK OVER TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM MIDWAY MEADOWS, BUT I CERTAINLY, IF WE CAN MAKE IT EASIER AND SAFER, I WOULD WALK TO BELTLINE AND GO TO A RESTAURANT.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO TRY TO GET SOME CARS OFF THE ROAD TO AVOID SOME OF THOSE SHORT TRIPS.
THAT'S WHY I, I REALLY WISH WE COULD SEE MORE BIKE LANES AND MORE WALKING TRAILS.
UM, AND ALSO I THINK THE BIGGER PICTURE IS, I THINK, AND WE'LL PROBABLY GET INTO THIS LATER ON TONIGHT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT QUORUM, I THINK BUSINESS OWNERS ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO GET THEIR EMPLOYEES BACK TO THE OFFICE.
AND I THINK IF WE CAN ENCOURAGE, UH, MORE CONNECTIVITY, MEANING OFFICE TOWERS TO RESTAURANTS AND, YOU KNOW, OFFICE TOWERS TO, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO WALK TO PICK UP DRY CLEANING OR WALK TO A HAPPY HOUR, I THINK THAT'S JUST ONE MORE THING THAT WE CAN DO TO ENCOURAGE LEASING UP THE OFFICE TOWER.
SO I THINK THE CONNECTIVITY REALLY DOES MATTER.
SO I'LL, SO I'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
CHRIS, TO YOUR POINT, TO HOWARD'S POINT, SO IF WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, AND I ALWAYS LOOK AT THE NUMBERS 'CAUSE IT'S JUST A THING.
WE, WE SWELL TO 125 TO 150,000 PEOPLE A DAY ISH, RIGHT? WE HAVE 17,000 RESIDENTS.
WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER 6,000 ISH WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS WITH TREE HOUSE, ONE, TREE, HOUSE TWO, THE REST OF COBALT, THE REST OF THE GROVE, AND KEEP GOING FROM THERE.
ARE WE EXPECTING THOSE 6,000 PEOPLE? I COULD UNDERSTAND IF YOU SAID WE'RE GONNA KEEP THEM OFF THE ROADS OR LET'S, LET'S TAKE 6,000 MORE VEHICLES LOCALLY OFF THE ROAD.
BUT IF OUR TOWN NEEDS THE SWELL, THE 125 PLUS THOUSAND TO COME IN EVERY DAY FOR THE VALOREM, AREN'T WE PUNISHING THEM? IF WE MAKE IT A BOTTLENECK, IF THE BIG PICTURE IS TO, TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF LANES IN THIS TINY LITTLE TOWN AND WE'RE ASKING 150,
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MAYBE 160,000 PEOPLE TO COME INTO OUR TOWN, SPEND MONEY SHOP, GO TO SEPHORA, GO TO ALL THESE WONDERFUL NEW SHOPS WE'RE DOING AND REDEVELOPMENT, HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GET IN IF THEY DON'T LIVE HERE? YEAH.WELL I THINK THE BIG PICTURE I'M ASKING.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE CHALLENGE.
I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE BIKE LANES WE DID RIGHT NOW, LIKE THE ONES ON, UM, ON BELTWAY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE THOSE LANES OF TRAFFIC OUT.
UM, I THINK, I THINK WE NARROWED THEM AND IT WAS CALMING.
I THINK IT SLOWS DOWN, YOU KNOW, THE SPEED LIMIT THERE DEFINITELY HAS.
UM, BUT YEAH, LIKE I KNOW THERE'S TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKING LANES AWAY FROM BELTLINE.
I I PROBABLY WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT, BUT HAVE MORE CONNECTIVITY SO PEOPLE CAN WALK MORE, I, I THINK SOME OF THOSE GET TO BE INVESTMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT, UM, MIGHT PUT A PREMIUM ON SOME OF OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
IF, IF, IF, IF I KNEW THAT I CAN WALK FROM MY HOME AND GRAB A BURGER, I, I, I WOULD PUT A PREMIUM ON THAT OVER SOME OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU, YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HOP IN A CAR AND I WOULD LOOK AT MICRO TRANSIT, RIGHT? LET'S SAY YOU COULDN'T DRIVE ANYMORE.
HOWARD COULDN'T DRIVE ANYMORE AND HE HAD TO GET TO THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN FOR A DOCTOR APPOINTMENT.
HE DIDN'T WANNA DRIVE OR HE CAN'T DRIVE HAS LICENSE TAKEN AWAY.
WOULDN'T A MICRO TRANSIT BE MORE VIABLE TO STILL GET HIM TO HIS APPOINTMENT VERSUS HIM WALKING OR TAKING A MOTORIZED SCOOTER? WELL, MAYBE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS MAYBE A SHORTER TRIP, YOU KNOW, OUR FOUR SQUARE MILES CONNECTING SOME OF OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO BELTLINE CONNECTING SOME OF OUR OFFICE TOWERS ON QUORUM TO BELTLINE.
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S NOT MICRO TRANSIT, BUT I THINK TODAY PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY HOPPING IN THEIR CARS AND DOING THAT OR, OR BACK TO THE, THE NEXT CONVERSATION WHICH WE'LL BRING UP, WHICH WILL BE QUORUM.
SO IF WE WANT CLASS A BUSINESS TO BE FILLED UP TO, TO MARLIN'S POINT, LET'S GET IT TO 90 PLUS PERCENT.
WE WANT PEOPLE COMING IN, YOUNG PEOPLE COMING IN.
IF WE, IF WE COMPRESS THE ROADS AND IT TAKES THEM AN EXTRA 18 MINUTES TO COME INTO ADDISON FOR THEIR JOBS BECAUSE WE'VE COMPRESSED THE ROADS, WE ONLY HAVE A FEW MAJOR ARTERIES TO COME IN OR OUT OF THIS TOWN.
AND IF WE'RE SWELLING TO, AGAIN, A HUNDRED THOUSAND PLUS A DAY, WOULDN, YOU WANNA MOVE YOUR JOB.
IF YOU WERE FRUSTRATED WITH DRIVING FROM ALLEN, LEMME JUST, LET ME SAY IT AGAIN.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY TRAFFIC LANES OF THE POINT WHERE SUDDENLY IT TAKES 18 MINUTES TO GET DOWN QUORUM.
BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO DO IS, IF YOU SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SOME OF THE BUILDINGS NOW, THERE'S BICYCLES IN THE LOBBY.
THEY'RE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO GET OUTTA THEIR OFFICE, HOP ON A BIKE AND, AND TAKE IT TO BELTLINE, ENJOY ONE OF OUR 200 RESTAURANTS.
AND I THINK THAT'S A DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO.
TO GO FROM LIKE WHITE RHINO HAVE SOME BIKES AND BIKE OUT FOR THEIR LUNCH.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? THAT'S RIGHT.
YEAH, I JUST, I JUST THINK THE BIG PICTURE FOR ME ISN'T JUST TAKING ROADS AWAY OR FORCING A CONVERSATION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE MICROT TRANSIT.
I DON'T NEED MORE MICRO TRANSIT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENS, BUT WHEN WE, EVERY TIME WE TALK ABOUT BIKE LANES, IT'S SO YOU'RE TAKING AWAY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAKING AWAY, UH, ROAD ROADWAYS.
I MEAN THE, THE EVERY SITUATION'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT, BUT, UM, I MEAN, WE CAN'T TAKE AWAY SIDEWALKS.
I DON'T WANNA TAKE AWAY PARKING.
WE JUST GOTTA FIND A WAY, I THINK, TO MAKE IT WORK FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.
ALL I WANT TO GET ACROSS, AND IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY ALL OF THE ABOVE THAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.
IT IS MICRO TRANSIT, IT'S TRANSIT IN GENERAL IS BRINGING PEOPLE IN ON THE SILVER LINE AND HOW WHATEVER, WHATEVER, WHATEVER OTHER TRANSIT OPTIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE.
UM, BECAUSE WHEN YOU, WE HAVE TO GET OUTSIDE OF OUR FOUR AND A HALF SQUARE MILES, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE METROPLEX, IT'S GONNA GROW 50% BY THE, BY THE TIME THIS, THIS, THIS IS, THIS TIMEFRAME IS UP.
AND YOU CAN'T, WE CAN'T KEEP ADDING ROAD LANES.
SO THERE HAS TO BE MORE TRANSIT AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR PLACES FOR TO, TO LIVE AND TO HAVE A BUSINESS WHERE MAYBE THEIR EMPLOYEES CAN LIVE NEARBY, THEY CAN WALK TO WORK, MAYBE THEY CAN TAKE A BIKE TO WORK AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET OUT AND DRIVE ALL THE WAY ACROSS TOWN, GET TO GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.
SO THIS IS ABOUT CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS WELCOMING TO THAT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN WE TALK TO THESE EMPLOYERS AND, AND THERE'S SO MANY OF 'EM, THEY, THEY WANNA BRING THEIR EMPLOYEES BACK INTO THE OFFICE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEY'RE DOING THE THINGS TO CR TO CREATE THAT, THAT ENVIRONMENT THAT, THAT MAKES THEM WANT TO BE HERE.
AND SO THIS IS JUST PART OF THAT.
IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT GETTING DOWN INTO THE WEEDS ON SPECIFICITY ON THIS PROJECT AND THIS PROJECT OR THAT BIKE LANE.
UH, WE GOTTA, THIS, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE BIG PICTURE, OKAY? WE'RE NOT APPROVING A PROJECT, WE'RE NOT FUNDING A PROJECT.
WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH THAT.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, COMPREHENSIVE.
SO WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE BROAD.
I KNOW SOMETIMES THAT, THAT CAN BE CHALLENGING.
IF I COULD JUST MAKE ONE, I MEAN, THIS IS A GREAT POLICY DISCUSSION.
THE DOCUMENT IN THE PROCESS HAS CERTAINLY EVOLVED.
SO IF YOU GO, IF, I THINK SOME FOLKS
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PROBABLY ARE THINKING ABOUT PREVIOUS ITERATIONS, PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD WHEN WE HAD KIND OF DISCUSSION ON BELTLINE AS A CONCEPTUAL IN ONE OF THE WORKSHOPS.WHAT YOU SEE IN THE DOCUMENT NOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE SOME OF THOSE FACTORS IN THERE.
SO WHEN YOU READ THIS DOCUMENT THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU, IT CERTAINLY TALKS A LOT ABOUT CONNECTIVITY, WALKING, BIKING, ALL THOSE PIECES.
BUT THERE'S NOWHERE IN HERE WHERE IT SAYS WE ARE IN-VEHICLE OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO I THINK THERE'S BEEN IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DOCUMENT, TO YOUR POINT, BASED ON FEEDBACK.
WE'VE HEARD, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FOR, YOU KNOW, HAVING MORE CONNECTIVITY.
UM, BUT WE'VE HEARD, CERTAINLY HEARD THAT FEEDBACK AS WELL.
AND I THINK THIS DOCUMENT DOES THAT AS FAR AS FOR WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS.
I WAS, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT HOW IT DOESN'T MENTION VEHICLES BECAUSE WE'RE BUILT OUT, WE'RE NOT PLANNING NEW ROADS, RIGHT? WE'RE, SO IT'S JUST NATURALLY BY THE FORM OF WHAT THE DOCUMENT IS, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO DO THAT AS MUCH AS OTHER THINGS THAT WE MAY DO IN THE FUTURE.
BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NOT A PRIORITY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT IF THAT'S THE FEEDBACK WE GET FROM COUNCIL.
BUT JUST SOME, SOME, SOME THOUGHTS ON THE DOCUMENT ITSELF.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH Y'ALL WAS FIRST.
WELL, MY QUESTION WOULD BE FOR LESLIE ON THIS.
SO, UH, A COMMENT ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE NEED SIDEWALKS, NOT BICYCLE LANES TAKING THINGS AWAY.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE SOME AREAS THAT WE NEED TO WALK TO GET A HAMBURGER WITH A SIDEWALK.
UH, AND I CAN BE ALL IN FAVOR OF SIDEWALKS, DON'T GET ME WRONG ON THAT.
UH, ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS IN READING THROUGH THIS DOCUMENT, LESLIE, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS.
THERE'S NO COST FIGURED INTO THIS AND MOST OF THESE PLANS HAVE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WILL WE BE SEEING ANYTHING OF A COST ANALYSIS OR ANYTHING ON THESE? NO.
SO TYPICALLY HOW, UM, SO IF YOU LOOK THE IMPLEMENTATION THAT'S, UM, SO OBVIOUSLY THIS DOCUMENT HAS A TON OF INFORMATION.
BUT THE IMPLEMENTATION IS KIND OF THE MEAT AND POTATOES, IF YOU WILL.
IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, UM, I WANNA FIND A GOOD, A GOOD EXAMPLE.
BUT HOW, LIKE HOW DO WE WANT TO, IF WE ESTABLISH A GOAL THAT WE WANT TO, UM, MEET THAT, THAT BASED UPON ALL THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED, WE ESTABLISH A GOAL AND THEN THERE'S ACTION ITEMS THAT SAY THIS IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THESE.
SO, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE GOALS UNDER THE LAND USE SECTION IS TO ENCOURAGE HIGH QUALITY HARMONIOUS DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY.
AND THERE'S ACTION ITEMS BELOW THAT THAT WILL HELP US ACHIEVE THAT GOAL.
AND SO SOME OF THOSE ACTION ITEMS, FOR EXAMPLE, IS TO ONE OF THEM, AS AN EXAMPLE, TO CONDUCT A PARKING STUDY OF THIS AREA TO DETERMINE IF OUR PARKING STA THE TOWN'S PARKING STANDARDS ARE A HINDRANCE TO OUR OFFICE COMMUNITY.
IF WE NEED TO GET MORE CREATIVE TO HELP OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO HELP ENCOURAGE, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE COST OF PARKING IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO.
IF, AS AN EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE TO GET TO THAT POINT WHERE WE WERE READY TO CONDUCT THAT, THE STAFF WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY, WE NEED $10,000 TO HELP US SUPPORT GOING AND DOING THIS PARKING STUDY IN HOPES TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL.
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THAT PROCESS WOULD WORK.
THIS IS ESTABLISHING, UM, CONCEPTS AND IDEAS AND ANYTIME THAT WE NEED TO EXECUTE THESE, WE WOULD, AND WE NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDS OR WE NEED FUNDS TO IMPLEMENT, THAT WOULD BE A PROCESS THAT STAFF WOULD'VE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY, WE NEED FUNDS TO DO THIS.
AND THAT WOULD BE A POLICY, UM, OR A DETERMINATION BY COUNSEL TO DETERMINE IF IT'S AN APPROPRIATE TIME OR AN APPROPRIATE SITUATION TO PURSUE THAT ITEM.
I SEE NOTHING IN HERE EITHER ON INFRASTRUCTURE, CORRECT.
NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING IN THE MASTER PLAN ON THAT EITHER.
SO THAT'S NOT, UM, THAT WOULD BE WITHIN, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF PLANS THAT INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION.
WE ALSO HAVE A, EXCUSE ME, A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES AREAS THAT NEED SUPPORT AND WE HAVE VARIOUS FUNDS.
UM, AND I WON'T GET IN THE WEEDS ON ALL THAT STUFF 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE THAT HELPS SUPPORT MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CAN SUPPORT OUR DEVELOPMENT.
WELL, TO YOUR POINT, THE, THE, THE PLAN TO ME KINDA LOOKS LIKE A WISHLIST AND A IT IS, YEAH.
AND KIND OF A, THIS IS KIND OF A DREAM MM-HMM
AND THEN A, A UTOPIA OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE.
BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S ANYTHING IN THERE THAT A COUNCIL 20 YEARS FROM NOW OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW CAN COME BACK AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO BY APPROVING THIS PLAN.
SO I THINK, SO IT IS, THIS IS A VISIONARY DOCUMENT.
IT IS, UM, A, A COMPILATION OF THE IDEAS AND CONCEPTS OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS
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THAT WE ENGAGE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.AND, UH, A PRIORITIZATION OF WHAT THE, WHAT THAT VISION IS AND HOW DO WE WORK TO GET THERE.
UM, THE INTENT IS, IS THAT, UM, HOW DO WE GET ALL OF THESE IDEAS IN A SOMEWHAT EASILY DIGESTIBLE PLAN AND SO THAT WE CAN WORK TOWARDS A COMMON GOAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHILE, UH, ADDISON IS, IS SMALL BUT MIGHTY, WE ALL NEED TO BE WORKING TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT IS A COMMON GOAL SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE MOST IMPACT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S BROADLY THE INTENT.
UM, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD GENERALLY AGREE THAT THIS, THIS IS A WISHLIST.
THIS IS A VISIONARY WISHLIST OF WHAT WE WANT ADDISON TO BE IN THE FUTURE AND SOME STEPS TO HELP US GET THERE.
HOW DO WE HOLD OURSELF AND FUTURE COUNSELS ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT'S IN THE DOCUMENT? THAT'S A, A PERFECT QUESTION.
AND ACTUALLY IT LEADS TO, WELL, LESLIE'S RIGHT, AND LESLIE WILL SPEAK TO THIS BETTER THAN I WILL.
IF YOU GO TO THE END OF THE DOCUMENT, THERE'S THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX THAT LESLIE MENTIONED AND IT HAS A NUMBER OF CONCRETE THINGS OF HERE'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO, AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND SAY, ARE WE MEETING THE TIMELINES ON THOSE? MM-HMM
SO I'LL LET LESLIE SPEAK TO THAT, BUT IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I THINK THAT LEADS TO, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE WISHES, BUT YEAH.
HOW ARE WE GONNA HOLD, BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE? YEAH.
SO THIS IS, UM, JUST A SCREENSHOT OF AN EXAMPLE OF, OF ONE OF THE PAGES WITHIN THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX.
IT'S, IT'S MANY, MANY PAGES LONG, BUT, UM, AFTER THE PLAN IS ADOPTED, UH, THE INTENT OR WE WILL BE ACTUALLY PUTTING THIS IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX INVISIO, THAT'S THE SAME, UM, SOFTWARE THAT THE TOWN USES TO TRACK THE COUNCIL STRATEGIC GOALS AND INITIATIVES.
SO IT WILL BE LIVE ON OUR WEBSITE.
YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GO IN AS AN EXAMPLE AND SELECT, UM, UNDER HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, IS, I'M, I'M KIND OF PARAPHRASING A LITTLE BIT, BUT MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING HOUSEHOLD TYPES FOR AGING RESIDENTS IN ADDISON.
AND SO THEN IT HAS ACTION ITEMS. SO IF SOMEONE WAS TO GO INTO THE HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD SECTION AND CLICK ON THAT GOAL OF HOW ARE WE DOING, HOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO TRY TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR AGING RESIDENTS? IT'S GONNA HAVE THOSE ACTION ITEMS AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE STATUS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE 30% DONE ON THIS ITEM, HERE'S WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR.
OR MAYBE WE HAVEN'T STARTED THIS PARTICULAR ITEM YET.
WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A FIVE TO 10 YEAR GOAL.
THOSE, SO THAT'S HOW WE WILL BE TRACKING IT, AND WE WILL, UM, BE HOLDING EVERYONE ACCOUNTABLE AND, AND THE COMMUNITY CAN HOLD STAFF ACCOUNTABLE FOR MAKING SURE THESE GOALS ARE GETTING DONE.
SO, SO IF WE DECIDED AS A COUNCIL THAT CHRIS'S IDEA OF WALKING TO GET A HAMBURGER FROM HIS NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS SIDEWALKS, AND I MEAN, THAT'S A SIDEWALK ISSUE.
IT, HI, THERE IS NO SIDEWALKS FOR HIM TO GET THERE.
AND WE PUT THAT, WE GIVE DIRECTION AND, AND, OR, OR PUT IT IN THE PLAN.
WE CAN HAVE THAT AS AN ACTION ITEM FOR SIDEWALKS.
AND, AND THEN WHEN, WHEN WE MAKE THAT SIDEWALK CONNECTION, WE CAN MARK IT COMPLETE AND THEN, AND THERE MAY BE MANY OF THOSE THROUGHOUT TOWN, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND JUST A THOUGHT AS WE'RE TRYING TO LISTEN TO YOU ALL AND SAY, HEY, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? ONE OPTION WOULD BE AS WE COME BACK FOR A FUTURE WORK SESSION, WE JUST, WE COULD GO THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX MM-HMM.
ONE BY ONE AND SHOW YOU WHAT'S IN THERE AND JUST, AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
THAT WOULD BE A USEFUL USE OF OUR TIME, I THINK.
I DON'T THINK I CAN DO THIS IN ONE MORE SESSION.
I'LL JUST TELL YOU THAT
CAN EVERYBODY ON THIS DAIS RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU WALKED OR RODE A BIKE TO THIS MEETING? ANYBODY DO THAT? NOT TODAY.
IN THE PAST HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST, RANDY'S RIDDEN A BIKE IN THE PAST.
I'VE NEVER DONE THAT, AND I COULD HAVE WALKED TO THE, THE OTHER BUILDING.
HOW ABOUT IN THE AUDIENCE WHO'S WALKED HERE? OKAY.
I I, I, I WANTED TO JUST MAKE A POINT AND, UM, WE, LIKE WHEN DAN SAID, WE HAVE ALL THESE BUSINESSES AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE COMING INTO ADDISON EVERY DAY JUST TO WORK HERE.
I THINK WE, WE HAVE 16 OR 17,000 THAT LIVE HERE, AND WE HAVE, UM, OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND THAT ARE HERE.
SOME OF THEM MIGHT RIDE A BIKE.
I DOUBT ANY OF 'EM WALK, SOME PROBABLY RIDE THE BUS OR THE TRAIN.
BUT I THINK THE MAJORITY, THE VAST MAJORITY ARE COMING IN CARS NOW.
MAYBE THEY WOULD BRING A BIKE WITH THEM.
I'M TRYING TO, I, I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE OBNOXIOUS AND FIGHTING.
I, I JUST, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT A PLAN IN PLACE THAT'S, THAT'S DOABLE.
AND NONE OF US HAS A CRYSTAL BALL.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DEALING WITH 25 YEARS FROM NOW.
I JUST FEEL LIKE PROGRESS HAS BEEN ROADS AND CARS AND BUSES AND PLANES AND OTHER TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION.
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CHRIS'S POINT, IF, IF HE WANTS TO WALK FROM HIS HOME TO GET A HAMBURGER, THERE'S NOTHING PREVENTING HIM FROM DOING THAT TODAY.I MEAN, HE MIGHT HAVE TO WALK ON THE STREET INSTEAD OF A SIDEWALK.
HE MIGHT HAVE TO RIDE A BIKE IN THE STREET INSTEAD OF A BIKE LANE.
BUT HE CAN WALK AND HE CAN RIDE A BIKE IF HE WANTS TO, IF HE CHOOSES TO.
WOULD IT BE SAFER IF WE HAD SIDEWALKS? PROBABLY MM-HMM
I BET MY STREET HAS MORE PEOPLE WALKING THAN ANY OTHER STREET IN TOWN THAT HAS SIDEWALKS.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING, I, I WANT THIS TO BE REFLECTIVE OF REALISTIC.
AND I, I'VE SEEN SITTING HERE WHERE THINGS HAVE BEEN SAID TO ME OR THAT I, I'M BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE, I GUESS, FOR WHAT WAS DONE BEFORE I GOT HERE.
AND I'M LIKE, CASE IN POINT, THE BIKE LANES ON QUORUM DRIVE, IF OUR MASTER PLAN OR MOBILITY PLAN OR WHATEVER PLANS HAVE BEEN DONE PREVIOUSLY, WERE IN THIS DIRECTION, THIS COUNCIL, I BELIEVE, WAS READY TO APPROVE THOSE BIKE LANES.
AND YET THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN LIVE ON THAT STREET, HUGE MAJORITY DID NOT WANT THEM.
SO WHATEVER, PUT IT IN THE PLAN, WHENEVER IT GOT IN THE PLAN OR HOW IT GOT IN THE PLAN, WHETHER IT WAS CONSULTANTS, WHETHER IT WAS THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THAT PLAN AT THAT TIME.
I'M JUST SPEAKING OUT FOR MYSELF.
WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE, A LOT OF YOUNG SINGLE PEOPLE, A LOT OF MARRIED PEOPLE WITHOUT KIDS.
WE DO HAVE FAMILIES AND WE HAVE A LOT OF SENIORS AND EVERYBODY IN BETWEEN.
AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD A CAR.
AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE MULTIPLE CARS.
WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT CHOOSE TO RIDE THE BUS.
WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO RIDE THE BUS.
AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.
I I'M NOT OBJECTING TO THIS, THE IDEALS IN HERE BECAUSE I THINK SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.
WE HAVE TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS VERY HEAVY ON WALKABILITY AND BIKEABILITY.
AND, AND I DON'T WANT THIS COUNCIL OR FUTURE COUNCILS TO BE HELD TO THIS.
WHEN, WHEN AN ISSUE COMES UP ABOUT PUTTING A BIKE LANE SOMEWHERE AND THE PEOPLE THERE ABSOLUTELY DON'T WANT IT.
SO I'M JUST, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE POINT.
I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, IF THIS IS WALKABLE, NOBODY WALKED HERE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA WALK TO THE COUNCIL MEETING.
YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S TRYING TO TAKE AWAY ANYBODY'S CARS.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THINGS, FIND, CREATE A SITUATION IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT DOES WORK FOR EVERYBODY BETTER.
RIGHT NOW, IT WORKS REALLY WELL FOR PEOPLE IN CARS.
IT DOESN'T WORK AS WELL AS IT COULD FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WALK OR RIDE A BIKE.
TO YOUR POINT, NOT EVERYBODY USES THE ATHLETIC CLUB.
BUT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S THERE'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY AND THAT IT'S A GOOD FIT FOR EVERYBODY.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM ANYBODY, BUT HOW CAN WE MAKE IT BETTER AND SAFER AND MORE ATTRACTIVE? UM, I DON'T, UH, I'LL JUST TAKE A BREAK FOR NOW.
UM, SO I HAVEN'T READ THIS WHOLE THING FIRST OF ALL.
AND I'D LOVE THE, THE JANUARY MEETING IF WE CAN DO THAT WORK SESSION.
BUT HOWARD, IS THERE SOMETHING, IS THERE SOMETHING IN HERE THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S LIMITING VEHICULAR TRAFFIC THAT'S BOTHERING YOU? I MAY BE CONFUSING THIS WITH OTHER THINGS THAT I'VE READ ABOUT MOBILITY, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE, THE PUSH WITH ALL THE WALKABILITY, WHICH I THINK IS COMING FROM THIS, IS REDUCING LANES.
UH, AND, AND QUORUM DRIVE IS A CASE IN POINT.
WE'RE GONNA DIS DISCUSS THAT LATER, I GUESS.
BUT TO TAKE LANES OUT TO PUT IN BIKE LANES, UM, I, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S TRYING TO, TO MINIMIZE OR LIMIT CARS AND PUBLIC TRANSIT, WHICH IS A GOOD THING, IS TO GET LESS CARS ON THE ROAD TO HELP TRAFFIC.
SO I SEE THAT, I DON'T SEE THE BUSES ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING THAT.
'CAUSE THEY'RE USUALLY EMPTY AND THE BUS TAKES UP MORE ROOM THAN TWO OR THREE CARS.
SO THE TRAINS I DO THINK ARE HELPING TO, TO SOLVE THAT.
UM, I JUST, I DON'T, I DON'T GUESS ANYBODY'S COMING AND SAYING, UH, WE'RE THE CAR POLICE AND WE'RE TAKING YOUR CAR.
I JUST, I DON'T WANNA HURT TRANSPORTATION BY CAR IN, IN FAVOR OF BIKES AND WALKABILITY.
I WANT TO HAVE, I WANNA HAVE BOTH.
I WANNA, I WANT IT ADDED INSTEAD OF REPLACING, WE, WE
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DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO MAKE, UH, TO HURT THE, THE TRANSPORTATION BY CAR.THE GROWTH OF THE, OF THE METROPLEX IS GONNA DO THAT ALL BY ITSELF.
I JUST, YEAH, IJ THE REASON I ASKED IS, IS IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT YOU'RE SEEING THAT'S LIMITING VEHICULAR, MAYBE WE CAN SEND IT INTO LESLIE, A LIST OF THAT HOWEVER LONG.
WELL, I FLAGGED A LOT OF STUFF IN HERE I HAVE QUESTIONS ON, SO I'M NOT BRINGING 'EM OFF TONIGHT.
'CAUSE THAT, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THOSE THINGS.
ALSO, DARREN, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE WALKABILITY AND MOBILITY.
UH, WE DID HEAR FROM THE RESIDENTS AND SOME THINGS I HAD NOT CONSIDERED.
I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE MOVED MY POSITION ON BICYCLING AND I THINK SHARED LANES WORK WELL FOR BIKES AND NOT TAKEN AWAY CAR LANES.
UM, UH, YEAH, WE DO SWELL TO 120,000 PEOPLE, BUT WHEN PEOPLE COME TO WORK AT THIS BUILDING AND THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO LEAVE THEIR CAR PARKED, AND THEY, THEY WALK OVER, UH, TO A RESTAURANT, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT.
I THINK THAT'S A BIG, THEY GET A CHOICE TO DO THAT.
AND YES, I CAN WALK FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO BELTLINE NOW.
IT'S ABOUT HALF A MILE, BUT IT, THERE'S A BIG, HUGE WIDE SIDEWALK ON MIDWAY THAT WE PUT THERE ON PURPOSE AS, AS A WALKING LANE.
AND WHAT I DIDN'T REALLY KIND OF MAKE THE CONNECTION TO IS, IS THE, UM, THE ACTION PLANS IN, IN THE, UH, IN THE BACK OF THE, UH, STUDY.
THE PLAN IS THINGS WE CAN CHOOSE FROM FOR OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING EVERY YEAR.
I GUESS I DIDN'T MAKE THAT CONNECTION, BUT THAT'S REALLY NICE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THAT INVENTORY OF, UH, CHOICES.
UM, IT'S A ROUGH GUIDE AS THE DOCUMENT.
UM, I THINK, UH, AND I THINK WE PIVOT.
I THINK WE DO PIVOT WHENEVER WE SEE SOMETHING THAT'S JUST NOT GONNA WORK, LIKE BIKE LANES OVER THERE ON QUORUM.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S A, UH, IT WILL EVOLVE.
AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE ANTI-CAR.
I THINK CAR IS GONNA BE THE DEFAULT THOUGHT.
AND SO THIS REALLY JUST DOES GIVE MORE RIGHT OF WAY, NO PUN INTENDED, IF YOU WILL, TO THINKING ABOUT WALKING WALKABILITY AND MO OTHER MOBILITY.
AND IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T OBLIGATE ANY PROJECT GOING FORWARD.
I MEAN, EVERY PROJECT THAT COMES FORWARD, THE COUNCIL CAN SAY, NOPE, DON'T WANNA DO IT.
OR COUNCIL CAN SAY, I I ABSOLUTELY WANNA DO THIS.
AND IT'S COMPLETELY CONTRARY TO THIS PLAN.
COUNCIL HAS THAT THE, THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
SO THIS IS A GUIDE, IT'S A VISIONARY DOCUMENT.
THIS IS NOT SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A PLAN.
IT'S A VISION THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SPENT TWO YEARS GOING THROUGH THIS AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE BEST VISION THEY CAN FOR THE TOWN.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT ANYTHING THAT'S ETCHED IN STONE, THAT THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT HA IS GONNA BE DONE AND HAS TO BE DONE.
TO YOUR POINT, WE DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT 10, 20 YEARS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
CHRIS, I I JUST ONE MORE COMMENT TO, TO HOWARD IS, AND I GET WHAT YOU SAY, I MEAN, I HAVE A CAR AND, AND MY WIFE HAS A CAR AND, AND WE DRIVE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE SAFER, I MEAN, CONNECTIVITY DOESN'T MEAN TAKING AWAY LANES FOR ME.
I MEAN, THERE, THERE ARE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE SIDEWALKS AND WE DON'T HAVE CROSSWALKS ACROSS SOME OF OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CONNECTIVITY CONNECTIVITY NEEDS TO BEGIN.
AND THEN JUST IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE COMP COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR ME AND THE IDEA OF CONNECTIVITY, I THINK A LOT OF WHAT WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE LOVE TO SAY LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT, THAT TAKES A JOB IN, IN ONE OF OUR OFFICE TOWERS, IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO CONNECT THAT OFFICE TOWER TO A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, MAY, MAYBE WE COULD, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY, UM, ENTICE SOMEONE TO TAKE OFFICE SPACE, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOMEONE LIVE HERE.
AND I, I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS CONNECTED.
I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT ON THE WALKING, UM, AND THE RIBBON CUTTING THAT WE HAD BEFORE, UH, ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE HERE, I BET 90% OF 'EM WALKED.
JUST WANNA LET LET YOU KNOW THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, THERE'S ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS NOW IN PARKING LOTS THAT WASN'T THERE FIVE YEARS AGO.
SO I THINK IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, TO CHRIS'S POINT, OR ANYONE IN THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLANS POINT, WE NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT, UNLESS YOU CAN ASK ME IF I'M WRONG, WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE PUTTING BIKE RACKS IN LOCATIONS WHERE WE WANT PEOPLE TO CYCLE TO THAT, HAVE A SPOT TO LOCK UP THEIR BIKES.
AND WE DON'T DO THAT AS A TOWN.
SO IF WE'RE THINKING BIKE, LET'S HAVE BIKE STATIONS.
JUST THE WAY WE HAVE ELECTRICAL VEHICLES, VEHICLE STATIONS MY ONLY POINT.
AND I THINK, UH, PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, THAT'S, THAT TENDS TO BE THEIR, THEIR THING THAT THEY DO ON THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA WRAP EVERYTHING UP ON THIS TONIGHT.
UH, UH, WHERE, WHERE DO WE NEED TO GO FROM HERE, DAVID? I WOULD, UM, ENCOURAGE YOU TO SEND ALL YOUR QUESTIONS IN WHATEVER MECHANISM YOU CAN.
IF IT'S, IF YOU JUST WANT TO GIVE US YOUR NOTES, IF YOU WANT TO EMAIL 'EM IN, IF YOU WANT TO FAX 'EM, WE'LL TAKE FAXES.
IF YOU HAVE WHATEVER YOU CAN TO GET YOUR COMMENTS IN THE, THE REVIEW, WE'LL MAKE SURE THE REVIEW LINK, SORRY, DIDN'T INTERRUPT.
THE REVIEW LINK WILL STILL BE,
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UH, WE'LL MAKE MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE.UM, WE'LL, UM, DETER, I GUESS WE'LL BE IN TOUCH AND WE'LL KEEP IT OPEN FOR NOW, AND THEN WE'LL BE IN TOUCH EXACTLY WHAT THE NEXT DATE IS, THAT WE COME BACK WITH A, A CONVERSATION, THE EXACT REVIEW TIMELINE AS FAR AS HOW LONG THAT WILL BE OPEN, UM, AND WHEN WE CAN COME BACK TO, TO FURTHER ON YOUR CONVERSATIONS.
BUT I'LL SEND AN EMAIL TOMORROW AND JUST REFRESH EVERYONE ON WHERE THE LINK IS AND EVERYTHING.
CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE SLIDE SIX? SURE.
I, I FORGOT TO ASK THIS EARLIER, BUT THAT 15,187 MM-HMM
THOSE WERE DIRECT MAIL PIECES YEP.
TO ALL THE ADDRESSES IN ADDISON, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? SO I KEEP HEARING WE HAVE 17,000 RESIDENTS.
RES UH, RESIDENTIAL ADDRESSES.
IT'S EVERYBODY THAT LIVES IN ADDISON.
DO WE ONLY HAVE LIKE A THOUSAND PEOPLE THAT ARE MARRIED? BECAUSE IF YOU HAD A THOUSAND PEOPLE MARRIED, THAT'S GONNA TAKE OFF.
OR 2000, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M DOING THE MATH RIGHT.
THAT, THAT SEEMS STRANGE TO ME.
I MEAN, MEAN YOU DIDN'T SEND TWO TO THE SAME ADDRESS, RIGHT? OR I'M JUST QUESTIONING THE MATH HERE.
I BELIEVE WE SENT OUT TWO SETS OF MAILERS.
THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE MAILER.
THAT WAS OVER THE ENGAGEMENT PERIOD STARTING APPROXIMATELY OCTOBER OF 2023.
AS IF IT'S MORE THAN ONE MAILER.
I'M, I'M THINKING IT WAS ONE TIME, I'M SORRY, RANDY, AGAIN, REAL QUICK.
YOU MENTIONED, WHAT'D YOU MENTION BEFORE WE SEND IN QUESTIONS? WHAT WERE YOU, YOU GONNA MAKE SURE THE LINK'S WORKING? WHAT'S THAT CALLED? CONVEO? THE CONVEO? YEAH.
IS THAT WHO CAN COMMENT, WHO CAN WRITE QUESTIONS AND COMMENT AND SEE THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ON THAT? UM, THAT COMES BACK TO MY DEPARTMENT.
SO THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE ACCESS ARE INDIVIDUALS WITH THE LINK AND THE PASSWORD, WHICH IS JUST COUNSEL AND STAFF.
SO THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU WERE DOING DURING THE UDC TO WHERE THE PUBLIC WAS SENDING IN COMMENTS.
AND IF LARRY MADE A COMMENT, UH, BOB OVER HERE CAN COME IN AND CALL YOU AN IDIOT.
THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY PRODUCTIVE.
THAT WAS NOT PRODUCTIVE, IN MY OPINION.
WELL, AND, AND YOU, IF, IF YOU HAVE LIKE HARD COPY, UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR HARD COPY TOO.
I WOULD BE, I AM HAPPY FOR THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND TO HEAR THE QUESTIONS AND SEE THE ANSWERS, BUT WHEN IT STARTS GETTING, IT'S A LITTLE COMBATIVE, ARROWS THROWN AT ONE ANOTHER BECAUSE YOU ARE COMMENTING THAT'S UNCALLED FOR.
SO YEAH, THEN THE, THE, UH, THERE WERE SOME FEATURES, SO THERE'S NOT A COMMENT FEATURE.
WELL, LIKE I SAY, I'M, I'M, WE, WE, WE, I WELCOME PUBLIC COMMENT AND, AND LETTING THEM SEE THAT.
BUT IF WE HAD SOME DECORUM NOT TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE YOUR COUNTERPOINT IF YOU WANT TO, BUT WE, WE'VE LEARNED, THANK YOU.
HUMAN, HUMAN NATURE AS SUCH WITH THE, UH, THOSE COMMENTS.
ALRIGHT, SO, UH, THANK YOU LESLIE.
YOU, ALRIGHT, SO FOR ITEMS FOUR B AND FOUR C, UM, THOSE, THOSE PRESENTATIONS WERE IN THE, UH, IN THE, UM, UH, AGENDA.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO OPEN THOSE UP JUST FOR THE SAKE OF TIME SO WE CAN TRY TO MOVE THROUGH THESE, UH, JUST TO SEE WHAT QUESTIONS COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE FOR STAFF ON ITEM FOUR
[b. Present and discuss the operations and financial reconciliation for the 2025 Addison Oktoberfest.]
B.AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ FOUR B UH, PRESENTED, DISCUSS THE OPERATIONS AND FINANCIAL RECONCILIATION FOR THE 20 20 25 ADDISON OCTOBER FEST.
ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS FROM STAFF, JUST, UH, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME SO WE CAN NOT HAVE TO PUSH OFF AS MANY ITEMS, CORRECT? YEAH.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS ON B? RANDY? I, I HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST ON HOW WE DID ON THIS FINANCIALLY.
WHAT, WHAT WHAT WE PUT IN, WHAT WE GOT OUT, HOW, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO BETTER.
HOW DID WE DO THIS YEAR COMPARED TO, I MEAN, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE PRESENTATION AND SEE THE NUMBERS.
THAT, BUT, AND THERE IS A WHOLE SLIDE ON THAT.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE TRYING TO JUST SAY, ASK A FEW QUESTIONS AND LET HER SIT DOWN.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT YOU WERE STILL GONNA GO WITH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION.
I I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING TO SHORTCUT THE PRESENTATION.
NO, WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO NOT DO THE WHOLE PRESENTATION.
'CAUSE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED IS IN THE PRESENTATION.
AND DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT YOU COULD JUST ASK
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DIRECTLY INSTEAD OF TAKING THE TIME TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION? NOT RIGHT NOW.AND HERE, AND ABBY, THIS IS THE NET, UM, THAT WE PRODUCED FOR EACH OF THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
ABBY MORALES, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEATER.
UM, YES SIR, THIS DOES REPRESENT THE NET.
UM, JUST A SIDE NOTE, UM, THE EXPENDITURES AND INCOME WON'T ACTUALLY MATCH THE PREVIOUS SLIDES THAT SHOW THAT ADDED INTO THE EXPENDITURES FOR ALL FIVE YEARS LISTED HERE IS THE MARKETING DOLLARS.
THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY COME OUT OF THE FESTIVAL BUDGET.
IT DOES COME OUT OF MARKETING.
UM, BUT WE DID ADD THOSE INTO ALL FIVE YEARS.
SO ORNETTE FOR THIS YEAR WAS JUST A LITTLE UNDER 500,000.
SO ARE THE MARKETING DOLLARS BROKEN OUT OF THAT 1.3 IN, IN A PREVIOUS SLIDE, LIKE THE EXPENDITURE SLIDE? NO, SIR.
UM, EXPENDITURES ARE LISTED HERE AND YOU'LL SEE ALL OF THOSE LISTED.
THERE IS NOT A LINE ITEM FOR MARKETING AS I DON'T ACCOUNT FOR THOSE IN THE FESTIVAL BUDGET THAT DOES COME OUT OF THE MARKETING BUDGET.
I'D LIKE TO GET A FOLLOW UP ON WHAT THEY WERE FOR EACH OF THOSE YEARS.
WE DO HAVE THOSE BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE HAD NOT BEEN INCLUDING IT.
TO YOUR POINT, I KNOW ONE OF US COUNSEL REQUESTED THAT BE PUT IN THERE.
BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE IT MAYBE PART OF THE BAR ON THERE.
IT IS PART OF THE BAR WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.
BUT YEAH, WELL, WE CAN BREAK IT OUT AND SHOW IT.
I JUST DON'T LIKE, IS IT A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR IS IT 200,000? I MEAN, AN IDEA OF RELATIVE BETTER TO THE OTHER YEARS.
BUT YOU PUT 'EM IN FOR ALL THE YEARS GOING BACKWARDS.
AND ABBY, CAN YOU, UH, REMIND US OF THE BUDGET FOR OCTOBER FEST? UH, N THE BUT THE OVERALL BUDGET FOR EXPENSES, UM, MORE OVERALL BUDGET, YOU CALL IT INVESTMENT, WHATEVER, HOWEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.
JUST OUR, WHAT DID WE BUDGET TO SPEND FOR OCTOBER FEST? UNDER 500,000.
SO WE CAME IN JUST, JUST RIGHT THERE UNDER BUDGET? YES, SIR.
MY QUICK QUESTIONS ARE ON THREE AND FOUR ON THE SLIDES.
YOU HAVE 49,700 PARTICIPANTS, OR SORRY, ATTENDANCE.
IS DRAMATICALLY UP, WHICH IS FANTASTIC.
WHICH SHOULD DRIVE REVENUE GREATLY.
THE QUESTION I ASK IS ON SLIDE FOUR, THE ADMISSIONS IT'S 400 2429 K.
DID THE TICKET PRICES GO UP FROM 24 TO 25? NO, SIR.
THE TICKET PRICES STAYED THE SAME AT $15 FOR ADMISSION.
UM, THERE WAS A FOCUS AND REQUEST TO, UM, PROVIDE COMPLIMENTARY TICKETS FOR AREA BUSINESSES.
AND SO YOU SEE THAT, UM, DISCREPANCY THERE.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE INCREASE IS SO GREAT IN THE ATTENDANCE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THE REVENUE.
SO THE GOAL WAS UNDER 500,000 INVESTMENT AND INCLUDING MARKETING, WE BEAT THAT GOAL.
THAT'S REALLY A, A BETTER WIN.
LAST TIDBIT, UH, SPONSORSHIPS WERE DOWN.
ANY, ANY, ANY INDICATORS WHY DID WE LOSE A RADIO STATION OR WHAT? UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY, UM, A PARTNER THAT WE HAD THAT WAS FIVE FIGURES, AND AT THE LAST MINUTE, UM, THEY PULLED.
OTHER QUESTIONS? ONE GENERAL QUESTION.
SO ATTENDANCE IS UP LIKE 30%, WHICH IS FANTASTIC.
BUT I MEAN, REVENUE'S ONLY UP BY 10%.
SO ANY IDEAS THAT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THAT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MAYBE GROW REVENUE A BIT? YES, SIR.
AND SO IF I GO BACK TO, UM, THE REVENUE SIDE, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THIS IS THE ACTUAL REVENUE, UM, THE DIFFERENT LINES AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE FOR REVENUE FROM, UM, THIS YEAR.
YOU'LL SEE THAT SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON.
UM, TWO OF OUR BIGGEST AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY, UM, WOULD BE OUR VENDOR, OUR VENDOR FEES.
WE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF VENDORS THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, IN YEARS PAST BY REALLOCATING THE SPACE AND, UM, REALIGNING THE FOOTPRINT TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
THE BIGGEST AREA, UM, OF UPTICK THAT WE SAW WITH REGARDS TO REVENUE WAS AROUND MERCH SALES.
UM, IN 2023, THERE WERE A LOT OF ITEMS THAT WE WERE PROVIDING, UM, COMPLIMENTARY, UM, JUST, THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT.
UM, HAVING ATTENDED OTHER EVENTS BOTH OUTTA STATE, UM, AS WELL AS DOWN THE ROAD, UM, IN THE MARKET, UM, I KNOW THAT THE PRODUCT THAT WE OFFER IS WORTH SELLING.
AND SO NAMELY OUR BUTTONS AND YOU SEE THE UPTICK FROM THAT.
UM, AND SO SELLING THOSE ITEMS, MERCH HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY FOR US.
UM, AS WE LOOK TO INCREASE REVENUE ACROSS THE BOARD WITH REGARDS TO ATTENDANCE, WE OF COURSE WILL ALWAYS TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN AS FAR AS RESIDENTS AND PROVIDING DISCOUNTS.
UM, THERE'S SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE TIED TO THIS.
UM, ONE OF OUR GOALS WAS TO LEAN INTO THE TEXAS SIDE OF THINGS.
UM, I THINK THAT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT OUR GOALS AND SOME OF THE OUTCOMES OF THAT GOAL OF THE GOALS, UM, SOME OF THE REVENUE, UM, GENERATING SIDE THAT WE SAW AN INCREASE IN OUR TEXAS CRAFT BREW SALES INCREASED BY 121% OVER THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE IMPLEMENTED THE TEXAS
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CRAFT BREW AREA.THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR PARTNERSHIP ALONG THOSE LINES AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND BUILD THAT OUT, OUR FAMILY FRIENDLY AREA AND THE IDENTITY AROUND THAT GENERATED SOME, UM, REVENUE AS WELL.
AND THEN OF COURSE, MERCH CONTINUES TO BE OUR NUMBER ONE LEADER AS FAR AS REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES.
ANYTHING ELSE, CHRIS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, WELL, JUST A QUICK COMMENT, ABBY.
UH, IT WAS A REALLY GREAT EVENT, UH, AS ALWAYS, AND, AND I GET, SO I WAS THERE EVERY DAY, DIFFERENT TIMES AND, AND, UH, THE, THE COMMENTS I WOULD HEAR FROM PEOPLE THROUGH THROUGHOUT, EVERYWHERE I WENT, EVERYBODY WAS JUST SO HAPPY.
AND THEY, THEY LOVED THE EVENT AND, AND Y'ALL JUST REALLY DID A GREAT JOB AND, AND, YOU KNOW, USING THE WHOLE SPACE AND, UH, VERY CREATIVE, VERY FUN.
[c. Present and discuss the Town of Addison FY 2025 Fourth Quarter Financial Report.]
SAME THING ON ITEM FOUR C, WHICH I'LL READ, PRESENT, AND DISCUSS AT THE TOWN OF ADDISON FY 2025 FOURTH QUARTER FINANCIAL REPORT.INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THAT, UH, FULL PRESENTATION WITH STEVEN, UH, QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL, THE HOTEL TAX IS, IS, UM, CONCERNING THE IN INPUT OR THE, UM, INCOME FOR THAT.
I THINK WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT, WHAT SOME OF THE CAUSE WAS.
UH, DO YOU HAVE, WHAT'S MORE DETAIL ON THAT? UH, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
SO PART OF WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR IN 2025 WAS THAT THAT TOURISM, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WAS GONNA BE OPERATIONAL FOR MOST OF THE YEAR.
SO WE DID BUMP THAT REVENUE, UH, BUDGET UP FOR THAT YEAR.
UH, THE, THE TPI OPENED A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE FISCAL YEAR THAN WE THOUGHT.
UM, SO THAT HAD AN EFFECT ON REVENUE.
UH, THE OTHER ITEM THAT, THAT AFFECTED REVENUE IS WE'VE HAD, UH, A COUPLE OF, UH, PART-TIME CLOSURES OF HOTELS FOR RENOVATIONS WOULD'VE, WHICH HAVE IMPACTED SOME.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE ONE, I THINK ONE HOTEL LISTED ON THE REPORT THAT WE'RE STILL AWAITING ONE MONTH OF, UH, HOTEL COLLECTIONS FOR, UH, SO ALL, ALL THREE OF THOSE ITEMS, UH, FALL INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THAT.
DOES THAT PRETTY MUCH MAKE UP THE DEFICIT? IT DOES.
IT, IT WOULD FOR THE REVENUE SIDE.
UH, REALLY MOST OF THAT WOULD BE THE TPIT IMPLEMENTATION.
UM, AND IF YOU LOOK AT OUR 2026 BUDGET, UH, WITH THAT BEING FULLY IMPLEMENTED, WE, WE STILL ANTICIPATE IT BEING BEING A LITTLE BIT STRONGER, UH, THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED IN 2025.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW.
SO IT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, UM, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF A, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT ECONOMICALLY DEPENDENT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.
BUT WITH FIFA AS WELL, WE WE'RE HOPING TO SEE SOME STRONG HOTEL NUMBERS.
OTHER QUESTIONS? SO STEVEN, JUST AN OVERALL SUMMARY IN ONE MINUTE OR LESS.
UH, OVERALL WE HAD A, HAD A GREAT YEAR.
SO, UM, REVENUE IN THE GENERAL FUND EXCEEDED OUR BUDGET.
UH, ABOUT A HUNDRED, ALMOST 104% OF OUR BUDGET, MOSTLY SALES TAX, UH, RELATED ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, 98%, UH, WERE AT 98% OF OUR BUDGET, SO BROUGHT IN MORE REVENUE THAN WE THOUGHT SPENT, LESS THAN WE THOUGHT.
UH, THE OTHER FUNDS, UM, ALL THE OTHER FUNDS THAT ARE LISTED, UH, REALLY PERFORMED REALLY WELL.
HOTEL FUND DID HAVE SOME CHALLENGES AS, AS WE DISCUSSED ON THE REVENUE SIDE, A UTILITY FUND.
UH, WHILE WE HAD, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WE HAD A MILD AND WET SUMMER, SO WE DIDN'T SELL AS MUCH WATER AND SEWER, UH, DURING, DURING THE SUMMER AS WE NORMALLY DO.
SO OUR REVENUES ARE A LITTLE BELOW WHAT WE BUDGETED, BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT ARE EXPENSES ARE A LOT LOWER BECAUSE WE ALSO DIDN'T HAVE TO PURCHASE AS MUCH WHOLESALE WATER AND SEWER TREATMENT SERVICE.
SO OVERALL, REALLY GOOD YEAR, ALL OF OUR FUNDS ARE IN A VERY GOOD POSITION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DARREN, OR QUESTIONS? SO, UM, A QUARTER OF THAT OVERAGE GOES TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UH, SO WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR AUDIT, SO WHICH WE'RE ABOUT TO, ABOUT TO START AND WE HAVE THE FINAL, WE'LL HAVE THE FINAL NUMBERS, UM, HERE PROBABLY HERE IN A MONTH OR TWO.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL LET DAVID KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT OUR FINAL NUMBERS ARE AND, UM, GET HIS AUTHORIZATION ON THAT TRANSFER.
SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE WE ENDED UP ABOUT $3 MILLION, UM, REVENUE OVER EXPENSES IN THE GENERAL FUND.
SO THAT ABOUT 750,000 OF THAT WOULD GO TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UH, 2,250,000 WOULD GO TO THE SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND.
UM, SO THAT'S OUR ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW.
UH, BUT UH, AS WE GET, UH, ALL OF OUR, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE ACCOUNTING ENTRIES AND EVERYTHING IN FOR THE YEAR, WE'LL WE'LL HAVE THAT FINAL NUMBER AND, UH, BRING THAT FORWARD AT THAT POINT.
CHRIS, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON SALES TAX.
UH, IT SAYS ADDISON HAD AN 8% DECREASE IN SALES TAX FROM FY 24 TO 25.
IS THAT JUST THE FOURTH QUARTER YEAR OVER YEAR? YEAH, IT, IT IS.
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THERE, I THINK ON THE NEXT SLIDE AFTER THAT ONE THERE, THERE'S A CHART THAT SHOWS MONTH BY MONTH FOR THE LAST THREE FISCAL YEARS.SO THE REAL REASON FOR THAT DECREASE IS BECAUSE IN AUGUST OF 2024, WE HAD A RECOVERY, WHICH IS BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, A BUSINESS THAT, THAT HAD BEEN PAYING TO THE WRONG LOCAL JURISDICTION THAT WAS REALLOCATED TO US.
SO WE GOT OVER $800,000 MORE IN THAT ONE MONTH.
YOU CAN'T FIND ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE.
WE CAN'T, WELL, WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LOT OF THOSE, BUT, UH, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE DIFFERENCE.
SO IF YOU REMOVE THAT, WE WOULD'VE EXCEEDED YEAR OVER YEAR.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT, IT'S A LITTLE MISLEADING BECAUSE FOR THE YEAR WE'RE, WE'RE UP, WE'RE OVER BUDGET.
I SAW THAT AND I JUST THOUGHT I'D ASK, BUT THANK YOU.
SO THAT ONE, UH, I THINK WE BROUGHT IN $2.2 MILLION AUGUST, 2024.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR IS 1.5 MILLION.
BUT AGAIN, WE BROUGHT IN, YOU KNOW, AN $800,000, UH, REALLOCATION FROM THE COMPTROLLER, BRANDY, THANK YOU.
YOU, YOU BROUGHT UP WATER AND MM-HMM
WHICH SUMMER WE DIDN'T USE AS MUCH WATER, SO WE DIDN'T BUY AS MUCH WATER.
ARE WE PENALIZED FOR NOT BUYING? DO WE HAVE AN ALLOTMENT OF WATER THAT WE ARE CONTRACTED TO BUY? AND ARE WE PENALIZED FOR NOT BUYING AT ALL? WE, WE'RE NOT PENALIZED.
WE HAVE, UH, A TWO, TWO COMPONENTS TO OUR WHOLESALE PURCHASES.
ONE IS THE DEMAND, BASICALLY, THAT WE'RE, WE HAVE THE CAPACITY FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS TO GET 11 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF WATER.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE TO USE ALL OF THAT 11 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
UH, AND GENERALLY, AND YOU DON'T WANT TO EITHER BECAUSE THAT WOULD PUT STRAIN ON OUR SYSTEM.
SO WE'RE BUYING AN ALLOTMENT THAT, THAT THEY'RE GONNA ALWAYS HAVE 11 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER AVAILABLE TO US EACH DAY.
AND THEN THERE'S THE VOLUME, WHAT WE ACTUALLY, UH, PUMP INTO TOWN.
SO WHERE WE SAVE MONEY IS IF WE'RE NOT PUMPING AS MUCH INTO TOWN, WE STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THE AMOUNT THAT DALLAS IS PROVIDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO PROVIDE THAT 11 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY TO US AND HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO US.
UH, WHERE WE SAVE MONEY IS THAT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY PUMPING AS MUCH WATER IN BECAUSE FOLKS AREN'T USING AS MUCH WATER.
SO WE DO HAVE TO PAY FOR THE 11 MILLION.
EVEN IF WE USE 9 MILLION, WE PAY FOR THE ABILITY TO PUMP 11 MILLION IN.
WE DON'T PAY FOR THE ACTUAL 11 MILLION.
WE PAY FOR WHAT WE ACTUALLY ARE PUMPING IN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU STEVEN.
AND WITH THAT FOUR D, UM, I, I WANT TO GO AND POSTPONE FOUR D UM, ONE OF TWO WAYS TO EITHER, DEPENDING ON HOW WE GET THROUGH THE REGULAR MEETING TONIGHT, UH, IF WE GET THROUGH THAT IN A TIMELY MANNER, WE CAN DO FOUR D AT THE END.
UM, BUT OTHERWISE I'LL POSTPONE THAT AND WE'LL PUSH THAT TO A, TO A LATER MEETING.
IT'S NOT, NOT TIME CRITICAL OR ANYTHING.
SO WITH THAT AT UH, 7 0 4, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND RECESS FOR FIVE TO 10 MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL RECONVENE IN THE, UH, IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
[ COUNCIL MEETING The Addison City Council will convene for a Council Meeting beginning at 7:00 PM in the Council Chambers.]
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.IT IS SEVEN 19 AND WE WILL RECONVENE THE COUNCIL INTO OUR REGULAR SESSION AND NOTHING LIKE BEING THE IT GUY WITH AN AUDIENCE.
ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, UH, FOR OUR FIRST MEETING IN OUR NEWLY RENOVATED TOWN HALL, UH, COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
AND, UH, WE'RE, UH, GLAD TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND GLAD TO SEE EVERYBODY WITH US THIS EVENING.
AND AS ALWAYS, WE LIKE TO START OUR MEETINGS WITH OUR PLEDGE TO BOTH OF OUR FLAGS.
IF YOU PLEASE RISE AS YOU'RE ABLE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE FOR LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FRAUD.
HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, A PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.
[2. Proclamations / Presentations]
GO RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS.UH, TWO A IS CITY MANAGER'S ANNOUNCEMENTS TWO B IS EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION.
A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR EVERYONE.
TOWN HOP TOWN OFFICES AND THE ATHLETIC CLUB WILL BE CLOSED ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 27TH AND FRIDAY NOVEMBER 28TH FOR THANKSGIVING DUE TO THE HOLIDAY.
THE NEXT NEXT THURSDAY'S TRASH COLLECTION WILL BE PUSHED TO FRIDAY.
JUST A REMINDER THAT TONIGHT'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE THE ONLY MEETING IN NOVEMBER.
WE WILL NOT MEET ON THE FOURTH TUESDAY THIS MONTH DUE TO THANKSGIVING.
THE ADDISON CIRCLE HOLIDAY TREE LIGHTING EVENT IS SCHEDULED FOR FRIDAY, DECEMBER 5TH FROM SIX TO 9:00 PM IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK IS FREE COMMUNITY EVENT MARKS THE OFFICIAL START OF THE ROCKING AROUND THE CIRCLE HOLIDAY
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SERIES AND WILL INCLUDE LIVE MUSIC, CARRIAGE RIDES, CRAFTS FOR KIDS, A FLOATING LANTERN RELEASE AND MUCH MORE.AND FINALLY, HOLIDAY IN THE PARK.
OUR RESIDENT ONLY HOLIDAY CELEBRATION WILL BE SUNDAY, DECEMBER 7TH FROM 10:00 AM TO 1:00 PM IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.
THE FEST, THE FESTIVITIES INCLUDE BRUNCH PHOTOS WITH SANTA AND SO MUCH MORE.
YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A POSTCARD IN THE MAIL, WHICH IS YOUR TICKET TO ALL THE FUN.
IF YOU DID NOT RECEIVE IT, PLEASE CONTACT OUR SPECIAL EVENTS TEAM AT SPECIAL EVENTS INFO@ADDISONTX.GOV.
AND IT'S GREAT TO HAVE ALL THOSE HOLIDAY ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS TIME OF YEAR.
I'LL ASK CHIEF FRIES TO COME UP FOR OUR EMPLOYEE INTRODUCTION.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UH, I'M THRILLED TO INTRODUCE TILFORD CLARK, ONE OF THE NEWEST MEMBERS OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SOMEONE WHO HAS ALREADY MADE A STRONG IMPRESSION.
THERE IS A PROFESSIONALISM, POSITIVE ATTITUDE AND COMMITMENT TO SERVING THE ADDISON COMMUNITY.
TILFORD JOINED THE TOWN ON OCTOBER 20TH AS A LATERAL HIRE FROM THE CITY OF PLANO, WHERE HE ALSO SERVED AS A POLICE OFFICER.
TILFORD GREW UP IN CHESAPEAKE, VIRGINIA AND GRADUATED FROM GRASSFIELD HIGH SCHOOL.
HE WENT ON TO ATTEND CONCORDIA UNIVERSITY IRVINE, WHERE HE EARNED HIS DEGREE IN THEATER.
DURING HIS STUDIES, HE ALSO SPENT TIME STUDYING ABROAD IN DUNDEE, SCOTLAND, IMMERSING HIMSELF IN THEATER PROGRAMS AND EX EXPANDING HIS EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE BEFORE JOINING ADDISON TILL, FOR HER GREAT THINGS FROM TRUSTED LAW ENFORCEMENT MENTORS WHO SPOKE HIGHLY OF THE TOWN AND ITS CULTURE.
AFTER MEETING ADDISON OFFICERS AND SEEING FIRSTHAND HOW MUCH THEY ENJOYED THE DEPARTMENT'S ATMOSPHERE, HE KNEW THIS WAS WHERE HE WANTED TO BUILD HIS CAREER.
ONE OF HIS PROUDEST PROFESSIONAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS IS MAKING THE DECISION TO BECOME A POLICE OFFICER IN THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS.
PERSONALLY, HE TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN CONTINUING TO GROW AND STRENGTHEN HIS FAITH IN GOD.
A FEW FUN FACTS ABOUT TILFORD, HE ENJOYS BRAZILIAN JIUJITSU, HAS SNOWBOARDED IN HATO JAPAN AND IS A PASSIONATE CHICAGO BEARS FAN.
LOOKING AHEAD, HE'S EXCITED TO CONTINUE FIELD TRAINING AND LEARN AS MUCH AS HE CAN OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.
FOR TILFORD, EMBODYING THE ADDISON WAY MEANS BEING PROFESSIONAL, COURTEOUS, AND PERSONABLE IN EVERY INTERACTION VALUES THAT SHINE THROUGH IN THE WAY HE CARRIES HIMSELF EVERY DAY.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING TILFORD TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON.
[3. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.]
RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT.THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.
COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS.
CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED.
THE COUNCIL IS NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE AGENDA TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
I HAVE TWO COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS TONIGHT.
UH, FIRST WE'LL CALL ON PATRICK ARNON, TRY AND TALK FAST.
WE'VE GOT A MICROPHONE COMING FOR YOU ALSO.
IF YOU WOULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
PATRICK, UH, PATRICK ARNON, 6 6 2 1 TULIP LANE, DALLAS, TEXAS.
MY NAME IS PATRICK RN AND I'M THE CEO AND THE FOUNDER OF THRUST FLIGHT.
I STAND BE BEFORE YOU, NOT ONLY AS A BUSINESS OWNER, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO HAS DEVOTED MY ENTIRE PROFESSION, PROFESSIONAL LIFE TO AVIATION IN NEARLY TWO DECADES OF MY LIFE TO THE ADDISON AIRPORT COMMUNITY, I HAVE SERVED HERE AS A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR, DESIGNATED PILOT EXAMINER, A PART 1 35 PILOT, AND AN AIRCRAFT MECHANIC.
I'M A FORMER AIRLINE PILOT THAT HAS MADE AVIATION MY LIFE AND ADDISON MY HOME, MY WORK AND MY PASSION.
BUT I'M HERE TODAY, NOT JUST AS A CEO OF THE LARGEST OPERATOR ON THIS FIELD.
I AM SOMEONE WHO CARES DEEPLY ABOUT THE FUTURE OF ADDISON ITSELF.
I HAVE ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED SHAPING THAT FUTURE.
I HAVE SERVED AS A BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVE ON THE ADDISON 20 FIF, UH, 2050 COMMITTEE.
AND I CURRENTLY SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD FOR THE ADDISON AIRPORT REDEVELOPMENT MASTER PLAN.
I BELIEVE IN THE FUTURE OF THIS AIRPORT AND I INVEST IN IT.
I SHOW UP AND I WORK TO MAKE IT BETTER, WHICH IS WHY THE DENIAL OF THE GROUND LEASE LAST MONTH WAS NOT ONLY DISAPPOINTING, IT WAS HARMFUL TO ADDISON'S.
FUTURE THRUST FLIGHT IS THE LARGEST OPERATOR AT THE ADDISON AIRPORT, RESPONSIBLE FOR 64% OF THE OPERATIONS ANNUALLY.
WE EMPLOY OVER 230 PEOPLE WITH MOST OF THEM RIGHT HERE AT ADDISON.
WE TRAIN 300 PROFESSIONAL PILOTS EACH YEAR, AS WELL AS AIRCRAFT MECHANICS AND DISPATCHERS.
THOUSANDS OF PILOTS AND MECHANICS, LITERALLY THOUSANDS HAVE LAUNCHED THEIR CAREERS OUT OF ADDISON BECAUSE OF THRUST FLIGHT.
WE ARE THE LARGEST PROVIDER OF FIRST OFFICERS TO ENVOY AIRLINES.
OUT OF THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS IN THE UNITED STATES, WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH UNITED AIRLINES AND MANY REGIONAL CARRIERS TO SUPPLY PILOTS AND MECHANICS DURING A NATIONAL SHORTAGE.
WE BRING, WE BRING PEOPLE TO ADDISON, WE BRING BUSINESS ACTIVITY, TAX, REVENUE, AND NATIONAL RECOGNITION.
60% OF OUR STUDENTS AND INSTRUCTORS RELOCATE TO ADDISON, LIVING IN YOUR APARTMENTS, RENTING YOUR HOMES, EATING AT YOUR RESTAURANTS, AND SHOPPING AT YOUR STORES.
WE CONTRIBUTE TO THE ENGINE THAT DRIVES
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ADDISON FORWARD.AND DESPITE ALL OF THIS, OUR FUTURE HERE IS UNCERTAIN.
WE PURSUED THIS GROUND LEASE TO SECURE A LONG-TERM HOME.
OUR CURRENT FACILITIES ARE ON SHORT-TERM LEASES, WHICH IS UNSUSTAINABLE FOR A COMPANY OF OUR SIZE AND IMPORTANCE.
WE FOLLOWED EVERY SINGLE STEP OF THE PUBLIC RFP PROCESS.
WE INVESTED REAL CAPITAL, HARD MONEY INTO ENGINEERING, ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES AND PLANNING.
THE RFP WAS WIDELY ADVERTISED.
EVERY TENANT, INCLUDING BOTH MILLIONAIRE AND OPTI SKY KNEW ABOUT IT.
THEY HAD EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO BID AND THEY CHOSE NOT TO.
NOW LET'S ADDRESS OPTI SKY DIRECTLY BECAUSE THIS MATTERS.
OPTI SKY CURRENTLY OCCUPIES THIS SPACE AND THEIR OBJECTION TO THIS, THEIR OBJECTION AT THIS STAGE IS A DELAY TACTIC.
THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE ANY GENUINE INTENTION OF REDEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY.
IF THEY DID, THEY WOULD'VE SUBMITTED A, IF THEY DID, THEY WOULD'VE SUBMITTED A BID DURING THE RFP LIKE EVERY OTHER SERIOUS OPERATOR.
INSTEAD, THEY WAITED UNTIL THE PROCESS WAS COMPLETE AFTER THRUST FLIGHT HAD BEEN SELECTED TO EXPRESS A VAGUE INTEREST.
AT BEST, LET'S BE HONEST, THIS IS ABOUT CONTINUING TO O OCCUPY THE SPACE WITHOUT MAKING MEANINGFUL IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS IS ABOUT BLOCKING PROGRESS, NOT CONTRIBUTING TO IT.
NOW LET'S DISCUSS MILLIONAIRES CLAIMS. THEY ALLEGE THAT THEY WERE TOLD TO WAIT FOR THE MASTER PLAN BEFORE BIDDING.
I HAVE CONFIRMED WITH THE AIRPORT MANAGEMENT, THEY EX THEY EXPRESSED INTEREST IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT AREA OF THE AIRPORT, UNRELATED TO THIS RFP.
THE IDEA THAT THEY WERE PREVENTED FROM PARTICIPATING SIMPLY DOES NOT REFLECT REALITY.
WE HAVE THE NECESSARY CAPITAL AND PLANS IN PLACE TO BREAK GROUND IN EARLY 2026.
IF THIS LEASE IS TABLED, THAT WILL TRANSLATE INTO SEVERAL YEARS OF THIS PROPERTY REMAINING AN EYESORE AND AN UNDERUTILIZED, DILAPIDATED AIRCRAFT STORAGE FACILITY.
YOU'RE CHOOSING BETWEEN THIS AND A $12 MILLION FLAGSHIP LOCATION OF ONE OF THE BEST AVIATION TRAINING SCHOOLS IN THE THAT IS YOUR TIME, PATRICK.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT WE HAVE TRICIA STEWART.
1 5 7 5 5 SEA BOLT IN ADDISON.
I JUST WANNA SAY CONGRATULATIONS ON THE NEW CITY HALL OR AT TOWN HALL.
UM, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU TONIGHT A LITTLE MEMENTO TO REMIND, UH, YOU OF, OF THIS EVENING.
AND SO EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT SIGNED IT, INCLUDING MY YOUNG NEIGHBORS, UH, JAMES.
AND, UM, OH GOSH, I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME NOW.
BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO READ THIS BLESSING FOR OUR NEW TOWN HALL.
UH, MAY ALL WHO WORK HERE BE GUIDED BY WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT, SERVING WITH INTEGRITY, KINDNESS, AND JOY.
MAY THEY KNOW GOOD HEALTH AND PURPOSE IN THEIR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
MAY ALL WHO ENTER, BRING RESPECT AND SOLUTIONS AND FIND IN THESE WALLS THE SPIRIT OF HELPFULNESS AND GOODWILL.
MAY THIS BUILDING CONTINUE THE LEGACY OF WELCOME, PEACE, AND SAFETY THAT HAS LONG DEFINED OUR TOWN.
AND MAY NEW MEMORIES AND HISTORY BE MADE HERE HONORING THE PAST, ENRICHING THE PRESENT, AND INSPIRING THE FUTURE OF ADDISON.
AND I DO THINK THANK STONEGATE, SHE SERVED US WELL FOR MANY YEARS.
I HAVE MANY GOOD MEMORIES OF OUR KIDS COMING TO, UM, TALK ABOUT EASEMENT PARK NOW, DOME PARK AND, UH, TOURING.
AND I HOPE THAT WE CONTINUE TO OPEN UP THE, UH, THE DOORS TO ALL TO VISIT AND TO FEEL WELCOME HERE.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THIS PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION AND WE'LL MOVE ON
[4. Consent Agenda. All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]
TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.CONSENT TONIGHT INCLUDES ITEMS FOUR A THROUGH 4K.
IS THERE A MOTION HERE I'D LIKE TO PULL? UH, FOUR J AND 4K FOR J.
AND K WERE PULLING FOR DISCUSSION.
DID YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION ON THE OTHERS, MARTIN? YES SIR.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A THROUGH I FOUR A THROUGH I ALL MOTION TO SECOND THE FOUR A THROUGH FOUR.
AND WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND FOR FOUR A THROUGH I AS A ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[j. Consider action on a Resolution approving the sale and assignment of the ground lease between AQRD Real Estate Partners, LLC, and Premier Jet Center, LLC, for the use of airport property at 4600 Claire Chennault Drive for commercial office and aeronautical purposes; authorizing the City Manager to sign the Landlord’s Consent required under the ground lease and other necessary documents; and providing for an effective date.]
MARLON, YOU'RE UP.UM, YES, ON, ON FOUR JAY, I NOTED, I NOTICED WE'VE GOT RAJ IN THE AUDIENCE WITH A QRD AND UM, AND, UH, IF HE CARES TO SPEAK, I'D LOVE TO HEAR, UH, OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE RELATED TO A QRD AND IF YOU'VE HAD, HAVE ANY INSIGHT THAT YOU CARE TO SHARE ABOUT A QRD AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ANY THOUGHTS YOU CARE TO SHARE, I'D LOVE TO HEAR.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
AND IF YOU'D HIT THE BUTTON TO TURN THAT MIC ON, THAT'D BE GREAT.
THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
UM, YES, WE, UH, UH, HAVE THOSE, UM, GROUND LEASE ASSIGNMENTS.
UM, PREMIER WHOSE PARENT COMPANY IS WESTSTAR AVIATION.
IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST, UM, CORPORATE MRO AVIATION COMPANIES IN THE WORLD.
UH, WILL BE MAKING A SIZABLE AND IS MAKING A SIZABLE INVESTMENT IN A QRD TO HELP US EXPAND OUR OPERATIONS HERE.
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UM, WE PLAN TO BRING, UH, SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION OF ENGINEERING AND TECHNICAL CAPABILITIES BEYOND WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.WE'RE PARTNERING UP WITH WEST STAR AVIATION TO DO THAT, UH, AS A PART OF THIS GROUND LEASE ASSIGNMENT.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO FULFILLING OUR COMMITMENTS TO THE TOWN AND THE AIRPORT WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BY BRINGING IN MORE TECHNICIAN TECHNICAL TALENT, LABOR, UH, AND ENGINEERING FOLKS, WHICH IS PART OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLANS WE DEVELOPED A FEW YEARS AGO WITH, UH, THE COUNCIL AND THE, AND THE MAYOR AND, UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH A WORLD CLASS MRO THAT WHOSE, UM, 20% OF THEIR BUSINESS, UH, IS WORKING WITH THE FIVE LARGEST 1 35 OPERATORS IN THE WORLD.
AND, AND THOSE OPERATORS WILL BE COMING HERE TO, UM, RECEIVE SERVICES AND MRO UH, CAPABILITY FROM, UH, A QRD IN WEST STAR AVIATION.
SO I'M SUPER, UH, EXCITED THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDISON AIRPORT.
SO ON, ON THESE MAYOR, UH, DO I NEED TO ADDRESS 'EM INDIVIDUALLY WITH A MOTION OR, OR CAN I DO THAT TOGETHER? JUST GO AND YEAH, GO.
YEAH, GO AND DO A MOTION ON, ON THAT ONE IF YOU LIKE, ON BOTH OR INDIVIDUALLY.
JUST GO AND DO IT INDIVIDUALLY IF YOU LIKE INDIVIDUALLY.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, FOR J.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
AND MAYOR, I'D LIKE FOUR J IS APPROVED
[k. Consider action on a Resolution approving the sale and assignment of the ground lease between AQRD Hangar Management, LLC, and Premier Jet Center, LLC, for the use of airport property at 4582 and 4584 Claire Chennault Drive for commercial office and aeronautical purposes; authorizing the City Manager to sign the Landlord’s Consent required under the ground lease and other necessary documents; and providing for an effective date.]
AND MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 4K.UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON K? HOW LONG IS THIS GROUND LEASE? DO WE KNOW? HOW LONG IS THE GROUND LEASE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? 3 57? I I CAN ANSWER THAT.
UM, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY, UH, PURCHASED THE BUILDINGS AND DID ALL THE RENOVATIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THOSE BUILDINGS, UM, AND, AND BILL CAN HELP ME, THE GROUND LEASES WERE CO-TERMINUS FOR 30, THEY ARE 32 YEARS LEFT NOW ON THIS GROUND.
THAT'S, THAT'S FOR ALL THE ENTIRE CAMPUS OF A QRD ANSWERED THE QUESTION PERFECTLY.
NEED ANY, UH, OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, ITEM 4K IS APPROVED.
AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE AGENDA, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN POSTPONED INDEFINITELY.
SO WE WILL NOT BE HEARING DURING A PUBLIC HEARING ON FIVE A TONIGHT AND WE'LL BRING THAT FORWARD, UH, AT ANOTHER TIME IF THE, UH, IF THAT MAYOR, THAT HAPPENS.
MAYOR, I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON THAT.
DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION? NO, WE DON'T.
[a. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving an Events Agreement between the Town of Addison and DCO Realty, Inc. for the management, operation, coordination, and control of a variety of events at Vitruvian Park and authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement in an amount not to exceed $185,000.]
ALRIGHT, ITEM SIX A PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN EVENTS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND DCO REALTY INC.FOR THE MANAGEMENT OPERATION, COORDINATION AND CONTROL OF A VARIETY OF EVENTS AT VITRUVIAN PARK AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $185,000.
ABBY, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
ABBY MORALES, UH, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEATER.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE DCO REALTY INC.
IS A SUBSIDIARY OF UDR, WHICH WE COMMONLY KNOW THEM AS SINCE 2012, THE TOWN HAS PARTNERED WITH UDR TO SUPPORT, UM, THESE THREE EVENTS.
UM, NAMELY THE HOLIDAY LIGHTS, SPECTACULAR VITRUVIAN NIGHTS LIVE, AS WELL AS SALSA FESTIVAL.
THE PARTNERSHIP, UM, HAS, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES ON BOTH END UDR PROVIDES, UM, SERVICES AND THEN THE TOWN PROVIDES SUPPORT AS WELL.
AND YOU SEE ALL OF THAT LISTED HERE ON THE TOWN'S PART.
THE TWO DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE IMPACTED, UM, ARE OUR PARKS AND RECREATION AND AS WELL AS OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
THE AGREEMENT OUTLINES THE INVESTMENT, THE TOTAL INVESTMENT IS $185,000.
YOU SEE HOW THAT'S BROKEN OUT FOR EACH OF THE EVENTS THAT THE TOWN SUPPORTS.
UM, YOU ALSO SEE THE UDR INVESTMENT LISTED THERE AND THEN ADDITIONAL NON TOWN SPONSORSHIPS THAT UDR SECURES AS WELL.
WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, ABBY ON THIS SLIDE THREE, UM, I'VE, I'VE HAD THIS SEEN THIS AGENDA ITEM MANY, MANY TIMES, BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS BREAKOUT AND THIS IS VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
UM, I DON'T EVER REMEMBER SEEING THE UDR, UH, PORTION, UM, OF, OF, OF, UH, SUPPORT AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY A BIG, BIG NUMBER.
UM, THAT THAT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT ESPECIALLY, UH, KIND OF BROKEN OUT BY THEIR, THEIR VARIOUS EVENTS.
UM, DO WE KNOW, UM, ROUGHLY WHAT THE ATTENDANCE IS FOR VITRUVIAN LIGHTS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? I ACTUALLY HAVE JESSICA HERE FROM UDR THAT COULD SPEAK, UM, TO THAT.
UM, SO IN TERMS OF PET TRIVIAN LIGHTS, IT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO, UM, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO
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BREAK IT DOWN.SO YOU HAVE THE SPECIAL EVENTS, THE ATTENDANCE FOR THE TWO SATURDAY EVENINGS, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR TRAFFIC COUNTERS THAT COUNTS THE TRAFFIC FROM WHEN PET TRIVIAN LIGHTS BEGINS TO WHEN IT ENDS.
SO ON AVERAGE FOR THE SPECIAL EVENTS, UM, I WANTED TO DO THREE FULL YEARS.
SO FROM 2022 TO 2024, UM, THE AVERAGE ATTENDANCE FOR THE SPECIAL EVENTS WAS ABOUT 8,500 PEOPLE A YEAR.
AND THEN THE VOLUME COUNTERS, WHICH ARE THE VEHICLE COUNTERS, UM, THE AVERAGE, UM, VEHICLES THAT PASSED THROUGH THE NORTHBOUND SIDE OF A TRIVIAN PARK GOING OVER THE PONTY BRIDGE WAS 32,600 VEHICLES.
AND AND THAT'S AN AVERAGE PER YEAR.
THAT'S A TOTAL FOR THOSE THREE YEARS.
SO YOU'VE SEEN, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THE BREAKDOWN FROM UDR VERSUS THE TOWN SPONSORSHIP, KNOWING WE HAVE OUR OWN HOLIDAY EVENT.
NOW THAT, THAT KICKED OFF LAST YEAR, INCLUDING THIS YEAR, IS THERE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OUR LESSENING, OUR EXPOSURE AND UDR WITH THEIR GROWTH AND THEIR DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING THERE, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PICK UP OR INCREASE? HAS IT BEEN AN INCREASE OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS? OR IS IT STATIC NUMBERS FROM UD R'S COMMITMENT? AS FAR AS THE TOWN PORTION OF THAT UUD R'S COMMITMENT AND OUR TOWN, THE TOWN COMMITMENT HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE 2012.
HOW ABOUT THE UDR COMMITMENT? UM, JESSICA, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT? SO THE UDR COMMITMENT OVER THE YEARS HAS INCREASED, UM, JUST IN TERMS OF, UM, JUST THE INCREASED COSTS OF SERVICES AND GOODS OVER THE YEARS.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UM, WE HAVEN'T ADDED ANY ADDITIONAL EVENTS.
WE HAVEN'T ADDED ADDITIONAL SERVICES IN TERMS OF THE TRIVIAN LIGHTS OVERALL, UM, SOME BEING SECURITY ON SITE EVERY SINGLE DAY, DIFFERENT JUST DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE TIMEFRAME OF VI TRIVIAN LIGHTS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
SO ABBY, DO YOU SEE IT BEING MORE OF A CONFLICT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR OWN TOWN, OUR OUR OTHER TOWN EVENT, BASICALLY WHERE WE'RE GONNA NEED REVENUE GENERATING? BACK TO THE BIG PICTURE OF ALL OF OUR EVENTS? ARE WE COMPETING WITH THE UDR EVENT? I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE COMPETING.
I THINK THAT THE HOLIDAYS, UM, CAN EXPAND THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE MONTH.
I THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO BOTH.
WE WOULD LOOK FOR DIRECTION ON WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE AS FAR AS SUPPORT GOES.
MY MY, MY ONLY THOUGHT ON THIS FOR THE COUNCIL IS JUST THAT THE SPEND THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT VERSUS THE GROWTH OF UDR, WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER AVENUES TO CUT THOSE COSTS.
SO DAN, ARE YOU COMPARING WITH, WITH OUR ONE NIGHT WITH OUR TREE LIGHTING EVENT? CORRECT.
REALLY IT'S THE DAYTIME NOW AT 10:00 AM AND THEN WE'RE HAVING THE EVENING EVENT.
CAN YOU JUST GIMME A, A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WE SPEND $185,000 TO DO? WHERE DOES THAT MONEY GO? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S IT SPENT ON? YES, SIR.
YOU SEE THE BREAKDOWN FOR THE EVENTS THERE.
I'LL HAVE JESSICA SPEAK TO SPECIFICALLY WHAT THOSE LINE ITEMS ARE SPENT ON FOR THE PRODUCTION OF THOSE EVENTS.
WELL, I GET O WHAT, OPENING NIGHT, $155,000.
WHO ARE WE PAYING $155,000 TO ON OPENING NIGHT? SO YEAH, WE'LL LET JESSICA ANSWER, BUT JUST TO MAKE IT, SO WE PAY UDR 185,000 AND THEY SPEND THE MONEY ON THE EVENT.
SO THAT WAS LIKE JESSICA WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO HOW THEY SPEND THE MONEY, BUT WHAT THE TOWN DOES IS WE GIVE THEM 185,000 AND THEY USE IT FOR THE EVENT.
SO THE $185,000, THE BIGGEST PORTION OF IT GOES TO THE INSTALL OF THE LIGHTS.
SO THE, THE TREE LIGHTS FOR THE TRIBUNE LIGHTS, UM, COMES OUT TO ABOUT $145,000.
AND THAT'S INSTALL TEAR DOWN AND THE MAINTENANCE IN BETWEEN.
SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST PORTION OF WHAT THE SPONSORSHIP GOES TO.
SO UDR, UM, SO WE, UM, WE MANAGE, UM, VI TRIVIAN PARK IN ADDISON.
SO WE ARE THE OWNER OF ALL OF THE PROPERTIES, UM, AT VI TRIVIAN PARK.
SO YOU'RE THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES BASICALLY? YES.
SO YOU'RE THE MANAGEMENT OWNER.
AND THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, BUT YOU, WE WERE USING OTHER INITIALS WHILE AGO FOR THINGS AND DCII WASN'T SEEING THAT, SO, YEAH.
DID YOU NEED ME TO BREAK DOWN WHAT THE, UM, WHAT THE COSTS ARE FOR THE OTHER EVENTS AS WELL? FOR THE SALSA FESTIVAL AND THE TRIVIA NIGHTS LIVE? I WOULD LIKE THAT.
JUST A, I'D LIKE A GOOD BREAKDOWN.
SO SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UM, OBVIOUSLY WE RE YOU KNOW, WE, UM, WE GO BACK TO THE AGREEMENT EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THE TOWN DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED US TO BREAK DOWN WHAT THE $185,000 WOULD GO TOWARDS.
SO OF COURSE, THE BIGGEST PORTION WOULD BE ALLOCATED TO VITRUVIAN LIGHTS.
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HAD SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS LEFT OVER.SO WE JUST ALLOCATED DIFFERENT PORTIONS TO THE SALSA FESTIVAL TO VITRUVIAN NIGHTS LIVE.
AND THEN WITHIN VITRUVIAN LIGHT ASIDE FROM THE INSTALL, WHICH IS THE BIGGEST PORTION OF THE 185,000, THERE ARE THE SPECIAL EVENTS FOR THOSE TWO SATURDAY NIGHTS.
SO IT WAS A HUNDRED AND, UM, 155,000, 10,000, AND THEN I BELIEVE 15 FOR, UM, VI VI TRIVIAN SALSA FESTIVAL.
AND THEN THE REMAINING PORTION FOR VI TRIVIA NIGHTS LIVE, WHICH IS A THURSDAY NIGHT CONCERTS, WHICH WAS $5,000.
DO WE GET TO SEE AN AUDIT OF, UM, SOME OF THE, UH, EXPENSES ON THOSE EVENTS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S RETURNED BACK TO US? JUST, UH, AFTER, AFTER THE FACT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? AN AUDIT? JUST A, LIKE AN, YOU KNOW, JUST AN ACCOUNTING OF, UH, WHAT ALL WAS SPENT ON THAT.
SO WE CAN FILL RECEIPTS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST.
IT'S, I MEAN, IT, I'D LIKE TO KIND OF SEE WHERE ALL THE MONEY GOES.
I AGREE WITH, I AGREE WITH YOU THERE AS FAR AS WHAT, ARE WE PAYING THE BAND, WHAT ARE WE PAYING SECURITY? I MEAN, I AGREE THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING.
I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S, IT IS A SPONSORSHIP AND IT STARTED OUT AS THAT WAY, SO IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A, A LUMP SUM TO HELP, HELP GET IT RUNNING.
AND, UM, AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO, TO THE INVESTMENT, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE KIND OF HOW IT'S SPENT.
AND, AND YOU, YOU'VE BARED, UH, ALL THE INCREASE, UH, THE, UM, UH, INFLATION.
SO THAT'S MY OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD MY LIGHT ON FOR WAS, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, WHAT, WHAT YEARS DID WE START, UH, FUNDING THIS WHEN? SO 2013.
OUR, OUR AMOUNT HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE 2013.
BUT THERE'S HAS, THERE'S, HAS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR COVERING THOSE COSTS.
AND GUESS MY, MY ONLY QUESTION FOR ABBY IS, LIKE WE DO WITH OUR OTHER EVENTS, WE TALK ABOUT REVENUE GENERATING, WE'D LOOKED AT VENDORS, SPONSORSHIPS, WAYS OF CREATING A REVENUE COMPONENT TO THIS BEING A FIFTH EVENT FOR THE TOWN VERSUS IT NOT BEING A REVENUE GENERATING EVENT PERIOD.
AND SO ARE YOU ASKING IF WE LOOK AT REVENUE GENERATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE VITRUVIAN PARK EVENTS? YES.
THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT SOMETHING THAT WE DO AS PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP.
I'D LOVE TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BEING AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFSET SOME OF THE EXPENSE OR FOR THE SPONSORSHIP.
I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING VENDORS SHOW UP OR POTENTIAL SPONSORSHIPS, UM, TO GET MORE EXPOSURE FOR THE TOWN, TO GET MORE PEOPLE DRIVEN INTO THE EVENT, TO COLLECT SOMETHING ON THE BACK END THROUGHOUT THE EVENT ITSELF.
MAYOR, I'VE GOT A COUPLE THOUGHTS AS FAR AS RECEIPTS.
I THINK, I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE THAT ON THIS, THIS SLIDE THREE.
UH, DARREN, IT'S JUST FROM THE EVENTS, IT'S NOT FROM WHERE THE MONEY SPENT.
WELL, IT'S LIKE ASKING FOR RECEIPTS FOR OCTOBERFEST, RIGHT? LIKE, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE WOULDN'T LOOK AT THAT, BUT WE MEAN, WE SEE A HIGH A ROLL UP OF IT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE OF, OF THE DIFFERENT EVENTS, BUT NOT, NOT THE, UH, EXPENSES IN BETWEEN.
RANDY ASKED WHAT IT WAS SPENT ON, AND A BIG PART OF THE FIRST ONE IS SPENT ON LIGHTS.
SO CAN I, CAN I FILL IN SOME BLANKS ON THESE? SO THE FIRST ROW, YOU'VE GOT VITU AND LIGHTS AND OPENING NIGHTS.
SO YOU, YOU'VE GOT WHAT, WHAT JESSICA SAID, $145,000 ON PUTTING UP THE LIGHTS AND THEN TAKING 'EM DOWN AND MAINTAINING THEM.
THAT ALSO COVERS OPENING NIGHT.
AND THEN ROW TWO, YOU'VE GOT VITRUVIAN LIGHTS, WHICH IS TWO SATURDAY.
I'M, I'M, I'M FILLING IN SOME INFORMATION THAT'S NOT ON THE SLIDE.
SO IT SHOWS TWO SATURDAY NIGHT CONCERTS.
YEAH, SO I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST, JUST, JUST HEAR ME OUT ON THIS.
SO THE THIRD, THIRD ROW IS VITRUVIAN NIGHT LIGHTS, WHICH IS THURSDAY NIGHTS, WHICH IS FIVE DIFFERENT, FIVE DIFFERENT, UM, NIGHTS, THURSDAY NIGHTS.
AND THEN VI UH, THE SALSA FESTIVAL IS FOUR SEPARATE EVENTS, UH, FOR 15,000.
SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS EVENT, THIS IS ONE OF OUR TOP FOUR SPECIAL EVENTS.
WHEN WE PUT OUT A SURVEY ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, IT RANKED NUMBER TWO AND RANKED NUMBER THREE AS FAR AS ATTENDANCE WAS ONE SURVEY QUESTION, POPULARITY WAS THE OTHER SURVEY QUESTION.
I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS TWO FOR, OR TWO OR THREE, BUT, BUT TWO FOR ONE, ONE QUESTION AND THREE, UH, IN IMPORTANCE FOR THE OTHER QUESTION.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR SPECIAL EVENTS AND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO IT, WE JUST SAW THAT OCTOBER FEST, WE, WE PUT IN 500, 490 5,000 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS.
THIS EVENT IS A OVER A MONTH LONG EVENT WHERE WE'VE GOT PEOPLE, WE'VE GOT 117,000, 600 PEOPLE ON AVERAGE COMING INTO
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ADDISON.AND, AND OUR SPEND IS ONLY 185,000.
AND IF WE, ON OUR OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS, IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME TYPE OF CONTRIBUTION LIKE UDR HAS FOR THIS, WHERE THEY'RE, WHAT IS THAT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUTTING IN TWO THIRDS OR, OR, YOU KNOW, 60%, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT WITH IT.
I'M NOT SAYING I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT, MARLIN.
AND, AND, AND I THINK WE'RE GETTING A HECK OF A BARGAIN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT RUNNING THESE EVENTS.
JESSICA DOES IT, HER STAFF DOES IT, AND, AND THAT'S A NO CHARGE TO ADDISON.
SO THIS IS A BARGAIN TO ME AS FAR AS THE BREAKDOWN GOES.
ALSO, OF THE DIFFERENT EVENTS, UH, IT'S 185,000.
WE JUST, UH, LOOKED AT THE BREAKDOWN FOR OCTOBER FEST AND WE SAW ALL THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THAT, THAT SIMPLY WOULD BE GOOD INFORMATION AND TRANSPARENCY FOR HOW WE'RE SPENDING THAT ALMOST 205, I THINK SHE SAID SHE WAS GONNA SEND US THAT.
IT JUST WAS ENTERING MARLON'S RESPONSE.
SO THAT WAS GONNA BE MY COMMENT.
IT'S A GREAT EVENT THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY PUTTING A LOT OF TIME INTO ABBY.
THIS IS JUST A SPONSORSHIP FOR MULTIPLE EVENTS.
AND EVERY TIME I'M THERE, I SEE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
UM, THE, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, AND THE ONLY THING THAT I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT IS I THINK THEY CHARGE FOR PARKING.
IS THAT RIGHT? I'LL LET JESSICA SPEAK TO THAT.
AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE AND, UM, I'D LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT AND WHERE THAT MONEY GOES.
SO BASED ON THE, UM, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT EDR INVESTS INTO THE EVENTS EVERY SINGLE YEAR, I WAS TASKED BY OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO FIND A WAY TO GENERATE SOME FORM OF REVENUE THAT WAS THE BEST WAY AND THE EASIEST WAY FOR ME TO DO SO.
UM, WE JUST TAKE THAT AND IT'S JUST INVESTED TO BUY TO PURCHASE MORE LIGHTS.
UDR MADE THE INVESTMENT BACK IN 2012 TO ABOUT $750,000 TO PURCHASE THE LIGHTS FOR VI TRIVIAN LIGHTS.
SO I USE THAT MONEY EVERY YEAR TO PURCHASE MORE LIGHTS FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
HOW MUCH IS PARKING? $15 FOR VI TRIVIAN LIGHTS? $15.
AND THAT'S ONLY DURING THE SPECIAL EVENTS, JUST THE TWO SATURDAY NIGHTS DURING VI TRIVIAN LIGHTS.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY EVENINGS THAT WE CHARGE FOR PARKING.
I THINK YOU'RE CHARGING FOR THE, THE CONCERTS TOO.
I THINK I WAS CHARGED AT ONE OF THE CONCERTS AT TRIVIA NIGHTS LIVE, WE DO NOT CHARGE FOR PARKING.
THE SALSA FESTIVAL WE CHARGE FOR PARKING, IT'S $10, AND THAT'S FOUR EVENTS.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU COULD, IF SOMEONE SHOWS A DRIVER'S LICENSE WITH AN ADDISON ADDRESS, NOT CHARGE, I COULD DISCUSS IT WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM WITH DISCOUNT OR DISCOUNT YEAH.
UM, IT'S PRETTY PRICEY FOR SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO OFFER UP TO OUR RESIDENTS.
WELL, THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND IT IS THE EVENTS ARE FREE.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T CHARGE FOR ADMISSION.
VI TRIVIAN PARK IS NOT DESIGNED TO BE, UM, TO BE A CLOSED EVENT.
SO WE DON'T CHARGE FOR ADMISSION.
THE THOUGHT WAS IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE COULD GENERATE REVENUE, PARKING WAS THE EASIEST WAY TO DO SO.
BUT THE REASON WHY WE CHARGE WHAT WE DO IS BECAUSE ADMISSION IS FREE TO ALL THE EVENTS.
IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET A DISCOUNT, I, I'D REALLY BE HAPPY WITH THAT.
I'LL DISCUSS IT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
I, I'M GLAD SHE WENT BEFORE ME.
I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION BEFORE THAT, BECAUSE I THINK HER, HER BOSSES ARE DOING THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND TRYING TO GET SOME REVENUE RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT.
I HAVE A LITTLE ISSUE EVEN GIVING A, AS MANY FREE CONCERTS AS WE GIVE AT ALL THESE FESTIVALS.
I, I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A, WITH CHARGING SOMEBODY TO PARK THERE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR RESIDENTS IF, IF YOU LIVE IN ADDISON, GET A DISCOUNT.
UH, BUT IF YOU'RE COMING WITH A CAR LOAD OF PEOPLE
UM, ABBY, FOR YOU, I WAS JUST GONNA TAG ALONG WITH, WITH DAN HERE IN TRYING TO, TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF RETURN, UH, EARLIER TONIGHT, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE MERCH SALE AT OCTOBER FEST WAS, WAS A HIT.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US TRY TO DO SOMETHING TO GET A LITTLE, I MEAN, WE OWE IT TO THE RESIDENTS TO TRY TO GET A LITTLE BIT BACK FOR THEM.
IF WE SPONSOR THESE EVENTS, JUST LIKE, UH, THE CORPORATE OFFICE WANTS TO GET A LITTLE SOMETHING BACK FOR THEIR INVESTMENT, I HAVE ZERO ISSUE, UH, WITH THIS EVENT AT ALL.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, UH, SEE US BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND, YOU KNOW, SELL A T-SHIRT OR TWO IS ALL I'M SAYING.
SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S
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INVESTMENT.I APPRECIATE YOU INCREASING YOUR INVESTMENT OVER THE YEAR ZERO ISSUE WITH THAT.
AND I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE TRYING TO GET SOME MONEY BACK.
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR A MOTION.
UH, MAYOR, I MOTION TO APPROVE.
THANK YOU MARLON AND DAN FOR THE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[b. Present, discuss, and consider action on Change Order No. 1 to the design contract with Teague Nall and Perkins, Inc. for the Quorum Drive Reconstruction Design Project in an amount not to exceed $399,340, revising the total contract amount to $4,820,987, and extending the contract completion date to October 2027.]
ALL RIGHT.ITEM SIX B, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE TO THE DESIGN CONTRACT WITH TEG KNOLL AND PERKINS INC.
FOR THE QUORUM DRIVE RECONSTRUCTION DESIGN PROJECT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $399,340, REVISING THE TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT TO $4,820,987 AND EXTENDING THE CONTRACT COMPLETION DATE TO OCTOBER, 2027.
BECKY, MAYOR, I HAVE A, A QUESTION UP FRONT.
SO TO ME, THE, UH, PRESENTATION'S A LITTLE CONFUSING.
WHAT ARE WE LOOKING TO JUST HAVE TO GIVE DIRECTION ON? IT'S IN DIRECTION.
THIS WOULD BE A VOTED COUNCIL.
YEAH, THIS IS, SO THIS IS THE DESIGN CONTRACT AND THE DESIGN CONTRACT AS WE'LL GO THROUGH.
THE PRESENTATION IS BROUGHT, THERE'S A CHOICE AT THE END.
SO THE, SO IT'S BROUGHT FORWARD BASED ON THE DIRECTION WE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY UNDERSTANDING THE CONVERSATION THAT COUNCIL HAS HAD OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS.
WE UNDERSTAND BIKE LANES ARE A CONVERSATION.
SO WE WENT BACK TO THE DESIGN CONTRACTOR AND SAID WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN OPTION OF ALL THE SAME SCOPE THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH COUNSEL.
ONE WITH BY CLAIMS AND ONE WITHOUT BY CLAIMS. OKAY.
WE JUST TRY TO MAKE IT SIMPLE WHEN WE GET TO THE END.
HERE'S AN OPTION WITH BIKE LANES OR WITHOUT BIKE LANES SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN.
IT HELPS ME WITH THE END IN MIND.
WITHOUT BIKE LANES OR WITH CHERYL LANES WITHOUT BIKE.
WELL, CHERYL LANES IS JUST PUTTING SOME PAINT ON A ROAD.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHETHER WE WANNA DO THAT, BUT THAT THERE'S NO COST OR DESIGN TO DOING IT.
WELL, I MEAN, I SAW CHERYL LANES IN ONE AND, AND DEDICATED LANES IN THE OTHER.
THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS, RIGHT? YEAH.
BECKY, YOU GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
BECKY DEVINNEY, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING.
I HAVE QUITE A FEW FOLKS WITH ME TONIGHT TO BE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
JANET TIDWELL AND I ARE GONNA SHARE THE PRESENTATION.
UM, BUT WE HAVE STAFF FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING AND ALSO OUR DE DESIGN CONSULTANT IS HERE ALONG WITH THE PROJECT MANAGER.
UM, I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE QUORUM DRIVE RECONSTRUCTION CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE.
JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND HISTORY.
UM, KEEP IN MIND THIS IS THE PORTION OF QUORUM DRIVE FROM THE DART RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY, ALL THE WAY TO THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY.
UM, IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN THE 1980S.
ACCORDING TO OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, IT IS DEFINITELY IN FAILED OR CRITICAL CONDITION.
UM, IN 2019 AS A PART OF PROPOSITION B VOTERS APPROVED, UM, THIS PROJECT TO MOVE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AND THIS PROJECT HAS THREE KEY STRATEGIC PLAN INITIATIVES.
ONE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION, THE SECOND MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY, AND THE THIRD VIBRANT ACTIVE COMMUNITY.
SO JUNE 13TH, 2023, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH NULL AND PERKINS FOR THE DESIGN OF THE QUORUM DRIVE PROJECT, UM, IN AN AMOUNT OF $4,421,647.
UM, THAT SCOPE INCLUDED A FULL PAVEMENT REPLACEMENT WITH CONCRETE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, LIGHTING, SEATING REPLACEMENT, AND UPSIZING OF TOWN OWNED UTILITIES SUCH AS WATER, SEWER AND STORM DRAIN TRAFFIC SIGNAL REPLACEMENTS, AND THEN A PLACEMAKING AND URBAN VISIONING PORTION OF THE OVERALL DESIGN CONTRACT.
ONCE THOSE VISIONING ELEMENTS WERE IDENTIFIED, IT WAS NOTED DURING THAT DESIGN AMENDMENT, UH, OR DURING THAT PROCESS THAT A DESIGN AMENDMENT MAY BE REQUIRED AND OR A PHASE ONE PROJECT BE RECOMMENDED.
SO WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT IS THAT DESIGN AMENDMENT THAT WILL INCLUDE PART COMPONENTS.
UM, AND I HOPE FROM THIS, UH, OVERALL MAP YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE EXTENT OF THE PROJECT, WHICH AS I MENTIONED, IS FROM THE SILVER LINE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO, UH, THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY.
I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO JANA SO SHE CAN TALK THROUGH WITH YOU SOME OF THE COMMITTEE WORK THAT WAS, UH, PUT THROUGH THE PROCESS ALONG WITH THE PARK ELEMENTS.
AND THEN I'LL COME BACK AND DISCUSS THE ROADWAY PROJECT FOR YOU.
JANET TIDWELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
JANA, DO YOU MIND, WOULD YOU SWAP THESE MICS OUT PLEASE? SURE.
SO I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE HEARING THE ECHO.
YEAH, CAN YOU TURN THAT ONE OFF TOO? YEAH.
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OKAY.IS THAT BETTER? MAYBE KEEP, KEEP GOING FOR A MINUTE.
UM, JANET TIDWELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION ON OCTOBER 24TH OF 23, FOLLOWING THE CONSULTANT CONTRACT THAT WAS APPROVED COUNSEL APPOINTED A 10 MEMBER ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVES.
THERE'S A CHART OVER HERE TO THE SIDE THAT IDENTIFIES THOSE MEMBERS.
UM, AND WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS WITH THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDED ABOUT, OR NOT ABOUT IT INCLUDED FIVE MEETINGS TO SET GOALS FOR THE PROJECT.
AND THEN ON MAY 28TH, 2024 STAFF PRESENTED AN OVERVIEW OF THE FEEDBACK FROM THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO COUNCIL AND PRESENTED RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE QUORUM, ARTWALK RE RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO HAVE A WALKABLE CORRIDOR THAT SHOWCASES PUBLIC ART.
UM, THE PROJECT ALSO WAS RECOMMENDED FROM THE PROS PLAN FEEDBACK.
IT IDENTIFIED A NEED TO CREATE OUTDOOR SPACES FOR PEOPLE WORKING IN VISITING IN THE SOUTH QUORUM DISTRICT.
AND THEN IT, UM, CAME FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
ALSO, IT IDENTIFIED PLACEMAKING AS A KEY TOOL TO ATTRACT DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT FOR THE PROJECT.
SO THIS IS WHERE THAT COMPONENT THAT BECKY TALKED ABOUT, ABOUT THE URBAN VISIONING AND PLACEMAKING, THIS IS WHERE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS CAME FROM PRIOR TO THIS PROJECT THAT RECOMMENDED THE PROJECT, AS THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WENT THROUGH THEIR PROCESS, UM, THEY HAD A KICKOFF.
UM, IN SOME OF THEIR MEETINGS, THEY ESTABLISHED PRIORITIES FOR THE PROJECT.
THEY WENT THROUGH A BRAINSTORMING PROCESS TO VISION IDEAS, AND THEN THEY REVIEWED THE CONSULTANTS' RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEY PROVIDED FEEDBACK ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEY REVIEWED FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONFIRMATION OF SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT IN SYNC WITH THIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE PROCESS.
WE ALSO, UM, ENGAGED THE SOUTH QUORUM BUSINESS DISTRICT AND PRESENTED THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BUSINESS DISTRICT IN ORDER TO GAIN THEIR FEEDBACK.
THE OVERALL RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE IS THE CORRIDOR SHOULD HAVE AN ARBORETUM LIKE QUALITY.
UM, IT ALREADY HAS THAT CHARACTERISTIC TO IT, AND IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ENHANCE THAT AND PRESERVE THAT.
AND THEN THEY IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR IMPROVED CONNECTIVITY AS A MAJOR OBJECTIVE FOR THE PROJECT.
ONCE THOSE OBJECTIVES WERE ESTABLISHED, THE PROJECT WAS DEVELOPED AND THERE WAS FRAMEWORK THAT WAS DEVELOPED.
SO THIS IS THE GRAPHIC THAT YOU SEE THAT, UM, IDENTIFIES THAT THERE WAS AN ADDITION OF A TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK ON THE EAST SIDE OF QUORUM DRIVE TO IMPROVE CONNECTIVITY.
UM, THIS PROJECT WAS TRACKING IN SYNC WITH THE QUORUM DRIVE PROJECT ON THE NORTH, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BIKE LANE.
UM, SO I THINK IT'S VALID TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT TONIGHT, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE NOT PURSUED THE NORTH SIDE BIKE LANE, UM, TO PROVIDE THE BIKE LANE.
THERE WAS ALSO A PROPOSED ELIMINATION OF WHEN TRAFFIC LANE IN EACH DIRECTION FROM BELTLINE ROAD TO DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY IMPROVEMENT OF TRAFFIC FLOW AT THE INTERSECTION OF QUORUM DRIVE.
AND LANDMARK PLACE WAS IDENTIFIED AS A KEY FOCUS AND CREATION OF PARK AND GREEN SPACE ALONG THE CORRIDOR, UM, WAS ALSO ONE OF THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS AN IMPORTANT FOCUS ALONG WITH POTENTIALLY CONSOLIDATING SOME OF THE BUS STOPS IN THE AREA.
AND THEN CONTINUE, UM, CONTINUATION OF THE BIKE LANE TO VERDE VALLEY.
SO IF YOU SEE IN THIS GRAPHIC, THE BIKE LANE IS ON, UM, THE WEST SIDE OF QUORUM AND IT DOES NOT GO, UM, EAST TOWARDS VERDE VALLEY.
AND AT THIS POINT, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED ADDING THAT BIKE LANE IN ONE OF THE BIG WINS OF THE PROJECT, UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE FROM LOOKING AT THIS GRAPHIC IS WHEN WE DID THE PARKS, RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE PLAN, WE ACTUALLY HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE SOUTH QUORUM BUSINESS DISTRICT REACH OUT TO US AND THEY WANTED TO TURN THE ISLAND THAT WAS IN THE CENTER OF THE ROAD INTO A PARK BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO THEIR OFFICE BUILDINGS, UM, WERE ASKING FOR PLACES TO GO OUTSIDE TO HAVE THEIR LUNCH, TO HAVE MEETINGS, TO TAKE PHONE CALLS TO ENGAGE WITH NATURE.
AND THERE WASN'T A PLACE IN THE CORRIDOR FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UM, AND FROM THE PROS PLAN, THERE WAS RECOMMENDATIONS TO TRY TO CREATE AN OUTDOOR GREEN SPACE.
AND THIS PROJECT DOES ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS.
UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW, HERE'S A BUBBLE DIAGRAM OF THE INITIAL LAYOUT OF THE CORRIDOR.
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YOU WILL SEE THAT WE CREATED, I'M GONNA KIND OF GO BACK.YOU CAN SEE THAT WE CREATED A GREEN SPACE AT THE INTERSECTION OF LANDMARK AND QUORUM.
AND WHAT WAS HA WHAT WE DID TO ACCOMPLISH THAT IS THE CONSULTANT REALIGNED THE ROAD TO FUNCTION MORE AS A T INTERSECTION.
AND THEN THEY CAPTURED ALL OF THAT LAND THAT'S IN THE ISLAND AND IT BECAME PART OF A PARK THAT'S BEING FORMED WITHIN THAT PARK.
THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE A BEER GARDEN IN, UM, OR AN OUTDOOR PAVILION, LET'S THINK, KIND OF LIKE JAVA AND HOPS TYPE FACILITY.
UM, A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO BUY A BEVERAGE OR A WHITE SNACK AND THEN SIT IN A SHADED AREA.
UM, AT THE TIME THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF A PET SPACE.
AND AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROJECT, THE, UM, SOME PEOPLE BRING THEIR PETS TO WORK, EVIDENTLY.
NOW THAT'S A TREND, BUT WE IDENTIFIED THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO INCLUDE A PET SPACE IN PHASE ONE DESIGN.
UM, THE GREEN SPACE ALSO, THE PARK SPACE ALSO INCLUDES AN EVENT LAWN THAT WE CAN HAVE OUTDOOR FITNESS CLASSES ON.
SO IF YOU ARE WORKING IN THE OFFICE BUILDING, YOU CAN COME OUT AND DO A PILATES CLASS OR A YOGA ON THE LAWN, AND WE COULD STRUCTURE THOSE TO HAPPEN AT LUNCHTIME OR RIGHT AFTER PEOPLE GET OFF WORK SO THEY CAN MISS THE RUSH HOUR AND GET A LITTLE FITNESS IN.
AND THERE'S ALSO AN EVENT PLAZA SPACE, WHICH WOULD TIE IN WITH THAT PAVILION SPACE.
AND THEN PRIVATE GATHERING SPACES FOR GROUPS TO BREAK OUT IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE OUTDOOR COWORKING MEETINGS, UM, THEY WANTED TO HAVE A CONFERENCE OUTSIDE, THEY WANTED TO JUST GRAB THEIR LUNCH OUTSIDE THAT THERE WOULD BE SPACES TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
UM, AND THEN PASSIVE LAWN SPACES IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT.
AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO A CONCEPT PRESENTED OF HAVING AN OPEN STREET.
UM, BECAUSE ON SATURDAYS THE BUSINESSES ARE TYPICALLY NOT THERE AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND HAVE A STREET FESTIVAL.
THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF ADDED COST FOR US OTHER THAN SOME ELECTRICAL WORK TO THAT.
UM, AND SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DID ENTERTAIN IN OUR PHASE ONE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN THIS DESIGN AMENDMENT.
THAT WAS A PRIORITY THAT WE HEARD FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
UM, THE PARK WE'RE RECOMMENDING INCLUDES A GATHERING PAVILION, RESTROOMS, AND PRIVATE GATHERING SPACES.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE ELIMINATION OF THE DOG AREA AND THAT WE WOULD ADD THE COWORKING NODES, WHICH ARE ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
UM, AND THE ART WALK SPACES IS ADD ALL ALTERNATES IN THE BIDS.
SO THEY WILL BE DESIGNED, BUT IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT IF WE HAVE COST SAVINGS OR COUNSEL CAN DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO FUND THOSE PORTIONS, IT WOULD BE BROKEN OUT IN THAT WAY IN THE DESIGN CONTRACT.
SO TO WALK YOU THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THESE ELEMENTS LOOK LIKE, UM, THIS WAS GRAPHICS TAKEN FROM THE CONSULTANTS PRESENT PRESENTATION THAT THEY MADE TO THE STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE.
THEY SHOWED KIND OF WHAT THAT ELEMENT OF THAT OUTDOOR COFFEE, BEER GARDEN AND WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE BY SHOWING SOME REPRESENTATIVE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE DFW AREA.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT PASSIVE ONES ARE USED LIKE IN OUTDOOR, UM, AREAS WITH OFFICE SPACE.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THOSE OUTDOOR COWORKING AND PRIVATE GATHERING SPACES COULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND THEN PLACEMAKING ELEMENTS THAT WE, WE COULD ADD COULD BE GAMES, PUBLIC ART, UM, AND SHOWING A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE AT OUR JAVA IN HOPS PAVILION AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.
AND THEN THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT AN OPEN, OPEN PLAZA OR AN OPEN STREET COULD LOOK LIKE FOR A SMALL FESTIVAL THAT WE COULD DO, YOU KNOW, ONCE A YEAR.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO BECKY.
SO I WANNA JUST START OFF BY STATING, UM, THAT THE FIRST DESIGN CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE IS TO INCLUDE TRIANGLE PARK AT QUORUM AND LANDMARK PLACE, WHICH JANA JUST DESCRIBED.
THAT WOULD INCLUDE UTILITY CONNECTIONS FOR WATER, SEWER DRAINAGE, AND THEN THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOOD TRUCK AND MULTI-USE.
UM, ALSO THOSE PLACEMAKING AMENITIES, AS SHE MENTIONED WOULD BE PASSIVE LAWN, OPEN SPACE, COWORK SPACE, UM, SOME MURALS, UM, GATEWAY FINDING, DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE, UM, AND THEN CUSTOM ART, UM, AT THE BUS STOPS.
IT ALSO INCLUDES INTERSECTION AND CORRIDOR RECONFIGURATION.
SHE TALKED ABOUT SOME TRAFFIC MODELING IN THAT AREA AND THEN ENHANCED PAVING AT THE, UM, AN ART AT THE FOUR INTERSECTIONS.
SO KEEP IN MIND THAT'S THE FIRST PORTION OF THIS OVERALL CHANGE ORDER.
I'M NOW GONNA GO INTO TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT I'M GONNA PRESENT TO YOU.
AS DAVID MENTIONED, WE'VE HEARD THROUGH THE PAST SEVERAL OF MONTHS, UM, DIFFERENT
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CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BIKE LANES.SO WE WANTED TO BRING TO YOU TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
WHEN I GO THROUGH THE OPTIONS THAT I'VE PUT SOME OF THOSE IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, ONE OF THE OPTIONS AS MENTIONED IS THE TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK THAT THE COMMITTEE DID RECOMMEND.
THE OTHER OPTION IS GOING TO BE A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY.
WHEN I GO THROUGH THAT GRAPHIC, I WILL SHOW YOU, IF YOU WERE TO CHOOSE TWO ADD SHARES TO THAT DESIGN, WHERE THAT WOULD BE LOCATED.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO ADD CHERYLS, IT'S JUST SIMPLY THAT THAT IS AN OPTION.
AND I WANTED YOU TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT WHEN WE GET THROUGH THESE GRAPHICS.
THE END, WHAT I'M GONNA BE REQUESTING IS DIRECTION FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO TELL ME WHETHER YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN AMENDMENT TO, UH, DO THE TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK, OR TO DO THE FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY, EITHER WITH OR WITHOUT SHARES.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE OVERVIEW AS TO WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO.
SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE THIS JOURNEY TOGETHER.
WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE THAT KIND OF HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO GET OUT OF THE CONVERSATION.
SO TO START OUT, AND THIS IS THE FIRST GRAPHIC THAT YOU HAVE, UM, THIS IS THE TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK OPTION.
SO AS YOU CAN TELL, WE'RE STARTING AT THE DART.
AND AS YOU GO ACROSS THE PAGE FROM RIGHT TO LEFT, YOU'RE TRAVELING SOUTHBOUND DOWN QUORUM.
THE TURQUOISE THAT YOU SEE IS WHERE THAT TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK WOULD BE LOCATED.
SO KEEP IN MIND IN THIS AREA, SOME OF THE ROADWAY WOULD STILL HAVE FOUR LANES IN THAT AREA.
SO THE PURPLE IS THE PAVEMENT.
YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT THE GRAPHICS.
AND KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE DESIGN SCHEMATICS.
WHEN WE GET INTO HARDCORE FOLD DESIGN, PLACEMENT OF ALL OF THESE THINGS WILL BE FINALIZED.
UM, THE GREEN IS THE MEDIAN AND THEN YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE ARROWS AND SOME OF THE LINE WORK.
OF COURSE, YOU KNOW WHAT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS.
AND THEN SOME OF THE PARCELS ARE ACTUALLY NUMBERED THROUGHOUT, UM, THE ENTIRE STRETCH.
SO THIS IS LIKE I MENTIONED, GOING FROM DART TO BELTLINE ROADWAY.
SO THEN WHEN WE GET TO BELTLINE ROADWAY, UM, WE WOULD GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE INTERSECTION OF QUORUM AT LANDMARK, WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT RECONFIGURATION OF THAT T INTERSECTION.
UM, TRIANGLE PARK WOULD HAVE THAT, UH, MULTI-USE WOULD HAVE THAT MULTI-USE BUILDING.
ONE THING I WANNA GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW BEFORE I GET INTO ADDITIONAL DETAILS, I KNOW YOU'RE PROBABLY ALL THINKING AND YOU'RE ASKING YOURSELF HOW AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH LANDMARK ITSELF? BECAUSE IF WE PUT IT TO TWO LANES, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS YOU DO, MYSELF AND JUAN SPENT SOME QUALITY TIME TOGETHER EATING DINNER AND WATCHING THE TRAFFIC FLOW IN THAT AREA.
THAT WOULD ALL BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH AND MODEL IF YOU CHOSE THIS, UM, OPTION BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC DOES BACK UP AND I HAVE THE TRAFFIC MODEL NUMBERS THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SUPPORT THE OVERALL CONDITION THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE ROAD, AND THAT'S WHY WE WOULD HAVE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC MODELING.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY BE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
AS YOU LOOK AT THE EXISTING CONDITION NORTH OF BELTLINE, THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE TODAY.
IF THE SOLE TRACK WAS TO BE ADDED, THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THIS SECTION.
SO KEEP IN MIND THIS IS ALL NORTH OF BELTLINE TO THE DART RAILROAD.
AS YOU LOOK AT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS SOUTH OF BELTLINE, YOU CAN SEE THE FOUR LANES.
IF THE CYCLE TRACK WAS ADDED, THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD GO DOWN TO ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION WITH THE TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK.
UM, IT DOES ALLOW FOR A LOT A WIDER PARKWAY, UM, WITH SOME MEANDERING SIDEWALKS AND A LOT LARGER BUFFER WITH THE SIDEWALK.
UM, YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE WHEN I GET THROUGH, UH, THE ROADWAY, THE LARGER TRIANGLE, UH, TRIANGLE PARK.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE BUS STOP BULB BOUTS, UM, REQUIRED TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC FLOWING IN THAT AREA.
UM, SO THAT OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S DOWN TO ONE LANE, THE BUSES WOULD STILL NEED TO TRAVERSE ON THE FOUR LANE DIVIDED.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR COLORS, JUST LIKE I SHOWED YOU.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT ORANGEY RED COLOR THAT YOU SEE THERE.
THAT WOULD BE IF WE WERE TO PROPOSE TO PUT A SHARED USE LANE, WHICH IS A SHERO, THAT IS WHERE IT WOULD BE LOCATED.
THIS DESIGN CAN MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT A SHERO IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO DO SO.
I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE THAT IF YOU DID CHOOSE TO PUT A SHERO, THIS IS WHERE IT WOULD BE LOCATED.
SO THIS IS GOING FROM DART ALL THE WAY DOWN TO BELTLINE ROAD.
AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS MOVES FROM BELTLINE ROAD ALL THE WAY SOUTH TO LANDMARK, KEEPING THE FOUR LANES OF TRAVEL, BUT STILL SHOWING YOU THE SHERO IN THAT AREA.
YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE SIGNALIZATION IS PROPOSED, UM, ALONG WITH THE SIDEWALK.
I WILL TELL YOU, UM, THAT THE SIDEWALK, UM, WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME MEANDERING IN SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT IT DOES ON THE TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK, UM, OPTION SIMPLY BECAUSE THE
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RIGHT OF WAY AND THE ABILITY OF WHERE THE WIDTH OF THE ROADWAY IS GONNA BE IS DIFFERENT, WHICH I THINK YOU CAN PROBABLY ALL UNDERSTAND.FOUR LANES IS DEFINITELY WIDER THAN TWO LANES.
SO HERE'S AN EXISTING CONDITION NORTH OF BELTLINE.
HERE'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, WITH THE FOUR LANE DIVIDED NORTH OF BELTLINE.
UM, OVERALL, UM, THE, UM, I'M SORRY, MULTI-USE TRAIL ON THE, UM, WEST SIDE OF THE ROADWAY.
HERE'S THE EXISTING CONDITION SOUTH OF BELTLINE ROAD.
AND HERE'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE FOUR LANE DIVIDED OPTION SOUTH OF BELTLINE ROAD.
I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE WHAT THE CHERYL WOULD LOOK LIKE.
IT SIMPLY, AS DAVID MENTIONED, JUST PAINTING ON THE ROADWAY IF YOU CHOSE TO.
UM, IT DOES PRESERVE THE CURRENT ROADWAY CAPACITY.
THE CONSIDERATION OF THE SHARES IS, UM, SIMPLY YOUR DECISION.
UM, THE SIDEWALKS ARE MORE CONSISTENT WITH EXISTING CONDITION, WHEREAS I MENTIONED ON THE TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK IT'S MORE MEANDERING.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE TRIANGLE PARK IN THE NEXT GRAPHIC.
SO TRIANGLE PARK ON THE LEFT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN, UM, SHOWS THAT 4,800 SQUARE FOOT, AND THAT IS WITH THE TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK.
UM, SO IF WE MOVE TO THE RIGHT PICTURE, UM, ON THE RIGHT OF YOUR SCREEN, UM, THAT IS WITH THE FOUR LANES.
SO THERE'S AN APPROXIMATE 15% REDUCTION IN THE SIZE OF THE OVERALL TRIANGLE, UH, PARK.
SO WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE THAT WITH FOUR LANES, UM, THE, THE PARK DOES GET JUST A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, UM, APPROXIMATELY 7,000 SQUARE FEET.
I KNOW YOU MAY ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SUN UP, UM, OVERALL MONUMENT.
UM, AND SO THAT'LL BE THING, SOMETHING THAT WE WORK THROUGH DESIGN.
OUR INTENT IS TO, UM, LOOK AT MOVING IT MAYBE TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION WITHIN THIS SAME PARK WHERE IT STILL HAS THE EXACT SAME FEATURE IF NEEDED.
UM, IF THE RIGHT OF WAY DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THAT, AND JANA HAS A PLAN TO ACTUALLY REFURBISH THAT, UM, BECAUSE IT IS IN NEED OF THAT AND SHE CAN EXPLAIN THAT IN GREATER DETAIL.
SO I WANTED YOU TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE SIZE OF THE PARK.
SO OVERALL, UM, CURRENTLY THE BETWEEN THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK AND THE 2019 BONDS, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY $27 MILLION.
UM, THAT'S ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE BETWEEN UTILITY FUNDS, STORMWATER FUNDS, SOME INTEREST EARNINGS, AND SOME OTHER FUNDING THAT WE ARE, UH, PLANNING ON HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS ON ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S APPROXIMATELY $12 MILLION.
I WANT YOU ALSO TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS AN OVERALL BUDGET BASED ON AN ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW THAT HAS A VERY LARGE CONTINGENCY FOR CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'S SIMPLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT DESIGNED.
AND AS YOU GET CLOSER THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PHASES OF DESIGN, THE UH, CONSTRUCTION BUDGET WILL GET A LOT MORE FIRM.
SO WITH THE OVERALL TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK, THE ESTIMATED DESIGN COST IS 4.8 MILLION.
UM, AND SIMILARLY YOU CAN SEE FOR THE FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY, WHERE YOU SEE DIFFERENCES IS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY COSTS.
THE TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S NEEDED.
UM, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK IS A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY, WHICH I THINK MAKES SENSE.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE IN THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT OVERALL.
BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS ARE BETWEEN 37 AND $39 MILLION.
SO WHAT I'M SEEKING TODAY ALONG WITH JANA, UM, IS TO RECEIVE YOUR DIRECTION ON THIS CHANGE ORDER.
SO ALREADY WE ARE INCLUDING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE VISIONING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE NOT ORIGINAL IN THE PROJECT SCOPE.
THAT'S THE UTILITY CONNECTIONS NEEDED FOR TRIANGLE PARK PAVILION ALONG WITH THE RESTROOM AND THE COWORKING SPACE.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR SPECIFIC DIRECTION ON TODAY IS WHETHER YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK OR A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED, UM, ROADWAY.
AND THAT CAN BE WITH EITHER SHE'S OR NOT SHEROS.
UM, THE DIRECTION, AS JANA MENTIONED IN THE MAY 28TH PRESENTATION, UM, WAS RECEIVED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK.
BUT AS I MENTIONED, WE KNOW THAT, UM, TIMES HAVE CHANGED AND YOU MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN WHAT WAS PUT FORWARD ORIGINALLY.
SO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN CONTRACT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION WAS 4.4, UH, TWO ONE AND 647, UM, FOR THAT OVERALL DESIGN CONTRACT WITH TEGNA AND PERKINS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS CHANGE ORDER THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU TODAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING YOU TO GIVE US DIRECTION ON WHETHER YOU WANT TO USE THE TWO, A CYCLE TRACK AT $380,000 OR THE FOUR LANE DIVIDED AT APPROXIMATELY $400,000.
AND WITH THAT, MYSELF, JANET, AND THE OTHER FIVE OF US THAT ARE HERE WILL STAND FOR WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
AND JUST TO, UH, TO CONFIRM THAT'S ALL YOU'RE ASKING FOR TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK OR FOUR LANE DIVIDED, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE YES, SIR.
THAT IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
UM, THE ASSUMPTION IS BEING MADE
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THAT ALL OF THE PARK COMPONENTS ARE ALREADY, UM, SUGGESTED AND RECOMMENDED AS A PART OF THE DESIGN, BUT WE NEED THAT GUIDANCE AS TO WHETHER YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT TWO-WAY CYCLE OR THAT FOUR LANE DIVIDED ON THE FOUR LANE DIVIDED.I NEED SPECIFICALLY WHETHER YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE SHARES OR NOT.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE IT IF IT'S NEEDED.
HOWARD, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THIS FOR MYSELF.
THE 4,000,421 IS GONNA ADD ANOTHER 380 OR 3 99 TO IT.
THAT'S NOT ANY IMPROVEMENTS, ANY CONCRETE, NOT IT'S JUST DESIGN.
SO WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THAT 4.4 MILLION IN THE PAST.
NOW WE'RE GONNA ADD TO IT ONE OR THE OTHER.
WHAT WE DID IN THE PAST WE'RE NOT, THAT'S, THAT'S OFF THE TABLE.
WE HAVE A SIGNED CONTRACT WITH THE CONSULTANT AND WE'LL, WE WILL NOT BE MAKING ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THAT, SIR.
EXCEPT THIS 400,000 WE'RE GONNA THAT'S CORRECT.
MAKE ONE OF THE, OKAY, I GOT IT.
UM, ON THIS TRIANGLE PARK MM-HMM
SITUATION, UM, THIS KIND OF REMINDS ME OF OUR UDC DISCUSSION, UM, WHERE, WHERE, WHAT DO WE DO WITH ZONING OF PARKS AND, AND UH, SO FORTH.
SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE ANY SAY SO AS FAR AS CHANGING THE CURRENT PART TO THE, TO THE, TO WHAT WE'RE SHOWING ON THIS SLIDE, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE SAYING THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION WE'VE BEEN GIVEN TO DATE IS THAT WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
SO THE DESIGN, UM, AMENDMENT ALREADY INCLUDES THE TRIANGLE PARK.
IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS, WE'RE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
JAN WILL HAVE TO ANSWER THOSE THINGS.
I'VE JUST HAD SOME OVER OVERARCHING THOUGHTS IN THAT, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT CURRENT GREEN SPACE TO ME LOOKS GREAT.
I, I LOVE, I LOVE THE WHOLE SETUP.
I LOVE THE ARTWORK AND MAYBE WE COULD ADD SOME SEATING OR SOMETHING FOR SOME PEOPLE, BUT CHANGING IT TO WHAT I WOULD CALL LIKE SOME MIXED USE, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, PARK WITH A BEER GARDEN AND, AND A, UH, EVENT, PLAZA PAVILION.
UM, TO ME THAT'S, UH, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR THAT.
I, I, I HAVE NO DESIRE TO, TO, TO BREAK WHAT I THINK IS NOT BROKEN RIGHT NOW.
UM, WITH THAT, WITH THAT PARK SPACE AND THAT ART, UM, THAT ARTWORK IS VERY ICONIC.
I DON'T, UM, THE MORE YOU KNOW ABOUT IT, THE MORE YOU REALIZE, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY SITUATED IT SUCH THAT THE LIGHT ACTUALLY WORKS LIKE THAT TWICE A YEAR.
UM, SO THAT, THAT WAS JUST ONE THOUGHT I'M GONNA SHARE WITH YOU.
AND I HOPE OTHER COLLEAGUES DURING THIS PROCESS WILL SHARE, SHARE WHATEVER THEIR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND I'VE, I'VE GOT MY IDEAS THAT I'LL SHARE WHEN WE GET TO THAT, THAT POINT ON THESE OTHER DECISION MAKING PACKAGES.
DARREN, TO CLARIFY ON THIS TRIANGLE PARK AND MARLON, I, I'M GONNA ASK A QUESTION.
WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NOT MAKING THE TRIANGLE PARK, KEEPING THE ROAD ROUTE THE WAY IT IS? Y YES.
AND KEEPING, KEEPING KEEPING, NOT KEEPING THE PARK AS IT IS AND THE, AND THE ART, YES.
I'D PREFER, UH, TO CHANGE THE ROAD ROUTE AND TO MAKE THE PARK MORE FUNCTIONAL TO WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET TO IT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO FROGGER ACROSS THE STREET TO GET TO IT.
UM, AND THIS QUESTION I HAVE IS, UM, ON THE SIDEWALKS, UM, I MENTIONED MIDWAY SIDE SIDEWALK ON MIDWAY EARLIER.
IT'S, IT'S A 12 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK.
UM, BUT IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE IF WE WOULD'VE PUT LIKE A STRIP OF GRASS OR SOME SORT OF LANDSCAPING BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE, AND THE ROAD.
AND I THINK MAYBE SOME OTHER PEOPLE THINK THAT AS WELL.
UM, HOW WIDE ARE THE SIDEWALKS IN THIS PLAN? WITH THE FOUR LANES? ON ONE SIDE WE HAVE A WIDER SIDEWALK THAT WE'RE CALLING A SHARED USE PATH THAT WOULD BE 10 FOOT WIDE.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE WE HAVE MORE OF A WALKING PATH THAT WOULD BE EIGHT FOOT WIDE.
SO WHICH, WHICH SIDE? WEST OR EAST? THE WEST SIDE WOULD BE THE WIDER SIDE SHARED USE PATH, WIDER SIDE.
AND THE EAST SIDE WOULD BE THE MORE NARROW WALK.
AND IS, IS THERE, BACK TO THE TRIANGLE PARK, IS THERE, IS THERE, IS THIS A FINAL DESIGN OR IS THIS JUST A CONCEPTUAL AND IT COULD CHANGE? THIS IS A BUBBLE DIAGRAM, UM, OF THE COMPONENTS THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN.
UM, SO, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT ELEMENTS ARE RECOMMENDED TO BE IN THAT.
AND THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH WAS BASED ON, UM, THE MAY 28TH DIRECTION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM COUNSEL AND THE SUPPORT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE QUORUM BUSINESS DISTRICT.
AND I JUST WANNA MENTION VERY QUICKLY ON THE UM, FOUR LANE DIVIDED WHERE YOU SEE ALL OF THE SIDEWALK, WE DON'T
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ANTICIPATE THAT THE SIDEWALK WILL MAKE THE U-SHAPE AND THEN ALSO, UM, KIND OF THAT STRAIGHT LINE THAT'S MAKING THE CURB, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THERE BEING LESS SIDEWALK, SO THERE WOULD BE MORE GREEN SPACE IN THAT AREA.YOU MENTIONED SORT OF THIS GARDEN, THIS BEER GARDEN, YOGA AREA, SHADE STRUCTURES, THIS JAVA AND HOPS TYPE OF A CONCEPT.
ARE YOU LOOKING AT A PARTNER WITH LET'S SAY JAVA AND HOPS, THEY WANT TO HAVE JAVA HOPS 2.0 IN THAT AREA THAT THEY'RE MAINTAINING? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD MAINTAIN? SO, I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY ON HOW WE WANNA DIVIDE THIS UP.
UM, THE EARLY THINKING THAT WE HAD ON THE PARK PROJECT IS THAT THE TOWN WOULD OWN AND OPERATE IT AND MAINTAIN IT LIKE A PARK, BUT WE WOULD BRING IN A THIRD PARTY VENDOR, UM, TO OPERATE THE OUTDOOR CONCESSION AREA.
UM, WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH MARRIOTT THAT IS ADJACENT TO THIS.
THEY REALLY SUPPORT THE PARK BEING ADDED AND THEY HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, IN BEING CONSIDERED TO BE A CONCESSIONAIRE.
SO THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BEER LICENSE, UH, LIQUOR LICENSE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WHICH THAT BRINGS THE NEXT PART TWO QUESTION IS, IN, IN ANY OF THE STUDY THAT I LOOKED AND READ INTO THE PAGE AFTER PAGE, IT DOESN'T DISCUSS ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH UPGRADED LIGHTING BECAUSE THAT IF YOU'RE GONNA BRING PEOPLE IN AND THEY'RE GONNA STAY AFTER WORK, ESPECIALLY IN THE DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME HOURS, FROM A POLICING PERSPECTIVE, I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHAT CHIEF FREEZE WOULD THINK.
OR MAYBE THERE'S ALREADY SHARED PERSPECTIVE ON IT.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IF WE'RE SERVING BEER, IT'S DARK AT NIGHT AND WE DON'T HAVE PROPER LIGHTING.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE PACKAGE LIGHTING WOULD BE INCLUDED IN, AND I, I CAN GO GIVE THE EXAMPLE.
I JUST ATE AT LA PJA IN THAT PARKING LOT NOW WITH BOLERO, WITH THE BOWLING, YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING IN THAT PARKING LOT.
IF I GO TO A VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, I DON'T SEE NEARLY ANYTHING IN THAT PARKING LOT.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY ASK OR LOOK AT OR STUDY WOULD BE LIGHT IT UP IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT IN THAT, IN THAT EXTENT, SO THAT POLICING, WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING BY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET OUT OF THEIR VEHICLE.
THE FIRST THING I WROTE DOWN WITH SEVERAL QUESTION MARKS, A BEER GARDEN IN THE MIDDLE OF A INDUSTRIAL AREA IN THE MIDDLE, WHAT WE'RE TALK, THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN ABOUT BRINGING PEOPLE BACK TO WORK WHERE THEY CAN GO OUTSIDE DURING THE DAY.
SO WE WANT TO HAVE A BEER GARDEN SO THEY CAN GO OUT AND HAVE A BEARD AT LUNCH AND COME BACK TO WORK.
THAT, THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
AND A BEER GARDEN IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO STREETS THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO WALK ACROSS, THAT MAKES TO ME ZERO SENSE.
AND I KNOW YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING.
WELL, THEY WOULDN'T BE WALKING ACROSS TWO STREETS.
I MEAN THE, THERE'S OFFICE AND THIS IS NOT AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.
WELL, UM, OFFICE IS CONSIDERED CONDU INDUSTRIAL WHEN IT COMES TO COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE.
SO, SO, AND I THINK WE CAN GO BACK TO THE WHOLE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN.
AND ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO REVITALIZE THIS AREA.
OUR MOST, SOME OF OUR OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT ARE STRUGGLING THE MOST ARE IN THIS EXACT AREA.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A PROJECT TO HELP REVITALIZE THE AREA.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE OFFICES, FROM THE FOLKS IN THOSE OFFICES ASKING FOR THINGS LIKE THIS.
I MEAN, BUT IF YOU'RE ASKING WHY WE'RE DOING IT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT.
AND I I'D LIKE TO JUST COFFEE SHOP BEER GARDEN, COME ON.
IF COFFEE IS THE IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THIS, UM, BUT WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS THEY WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY IF THEY WANTED TO RESERVE THE PARK, TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR CORPORATE FUNCTION THAT THEY COULD ALSO SERVE DRINKS.
AND THE IDEA OF A BEER GARDEN IS MORE THE, THE LOOK AND THE ATMOSPHERE AND NOT NECESSARILY THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD SERVE ALCOHOL AROUND THE CLOCK.
IT WOULD BE MORE OF A PLACE TO GRAB COFFEE AND A SNACK LIKE JAVA AND HOPS.
BUT YOU COULD ALSO USE IT TO HAVE A CORPORATE GATHERING THERE WHERE YOU SERVED WINE.
SORRY IF I DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING SLIDE 14, PLEASE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOOD TRUCKS AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT INFRASTRUCTURE IN FOR FOOD TRUCKS TO BE THERE.
I THOUGHT THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF A FOOD TRUCK IS THAT THEY ARE SELF-SUFFICIENT.
THEY COME AND THEY GO AND THEY ARE SELF-SUFFICIENT IN THEMSELVES.
WHY ARE WE SPENDING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY ON INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A FOOD TRUCK? FOR THE FOOD TRUCKS, IF YOU ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE POWER FOR THE TRUCKS, YOU HAVE A QUIETER ATMOSPHERE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE NOISE AND THE EXHAUST FOR THE GENERATORS AND PROVIDING THE POWER IS NOT A SIGNIFICANT COST.
AND SO THERE'S A LARGE BENEFIT BY ALLOWING THEM TO
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PLUG IN AND OPERATE AND NOT HAVE A GENERATOR RUNNING.IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SEWER AND WATER.
AND I'LL JUST ADD, DURING ALL OF OUR SPECIAL EVENTS, OUR STAFF IS PROVIDING WATER SOURCES AND PLACES FOR, UM, THEIR GRAY WATER TO GO.
AND IN MANY OF THOSE TIMES, THOSE GRAY WATER TANKS ARE CONNECTED DIRECTLY TO THE CLEAN OUTS.
AND THAT'S HAPPENING ON EVERY SPECIAL EVENT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THIS TOWN.
MY IDEA OF A FOOD TRUCK IS SELF-SUFFICIENCY.
THEY'RE HERE ONE DAY, THEY'RE THERE THE NEXT, SO THAT, THAT DOESN'T JIVE WITH ME ON THAT, UH, SLIDE, UH, UH, 17, PLEASE.
AND IT, THIS IS GONNA BE THERE, IT, IT, IT'S KIND OF A, LET'S GO WITH SLIDE 26 FIRST PLEASE.
OKAY, WE'RE LOOKING UP AT THIS PARKING GARAGE AREA, THE DRIVEWAY THAT GOES IN.
OKAY, NOW LET'S GO TO 26 PLEASE.
ARE WE GONNA BLOCK THESE PEOPLE'S EGRESS TO AND FROM THAT PARKING LOT, IN THAT PARKING GARAGE, THERE IS A, THERE IS A STRIP OF, OF GRASS THERE.
AND THE OTHER SLIDE THAT I HAVE, THERE'S AN ACTUAL SIDEWALK THAT GOES THERE WITH A BRICK STEP DOWN.
ARE WE GONNA, ARE WE GONNA, IS YOUR PROPOSAL TO KNOCK OUT THAT DRIVEWAY INTO THAT PARKING? SO THESE ARE GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION.
SO YOU COULD GET AN OVERALL FILL FOR WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO HAVE A TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK OR NOT.
UM, ALL, WELL, THAT'S NOT A TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK.
THAT'S A SIDEWALK WITH GRASS ON BOTH SIDES ON THE OTHER SIDE.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROADWAY.
WE WANTED YOU TO FOCUS IN ON LOOKING AT WHAT THE TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK WAS GONNA LOOK LIKE ALONG WITH ONE LANE OF TRAVEL IN EACH DIRECTION.
UM, WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO REMOVE THE DRIVEWAY.
THERE ARE SOME AREAS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT, NO MATTER WHICH ROUTE WE GO, THERE WILL BE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CONSOLIDATING DRIVEWAYS JUST BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS THROUGHOUT THE AREA.
AND THAT'LL BE THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS.
BUT THE INTENTION IS NOT TO ELIMINATE DRIVEWAYS OR HAVE ANYONE NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE ROADWAY.
IT WOULD BE TO CONSOLIDATE DRIVEWAYS IF THAT IS NEEDED THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS.
I, AND YOU HAVE MENTIONED YOUR INTERACTION WITH COMPANIES ALONG THIS WAY.
I HAVE ALSO BEEN HAVING INTERACTION WITH COMPANIES ALONG HERE TO SEE WHAT THEY KNOW ABOUT THESE PLANS AND SEE THEY WENT BALLISTIC WHEN THEY SAW THIS PICTURE.
SO THE COMPANIES THAT I'VE TALKED TO ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY OF THIS.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF OUTREACH WE'VE HAD TO THESE BUSINESSES ALONG THE WAY AND THE, AND THE BUILDING OWNERS.
UH, BUT THEY DON'T SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE THEIR LEASING.
THEY SEE THE, A LOT OF THIS AS A HINDRANCE TO THEIR BUSINESS.
AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR NOW.
BUT I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT WE STUCK THE WOODEN STAKE IN THE HEART OF BIKE LANES AND HERE THEY ARE AGAIN WITH ONE LANE IN BOTH DIRECTION AS AN OPTION.
WELL, I WANNA, I WANNA BE SURE.
WE HAD A PROJECT WHERE WE HAD DIRECTION TO BRING BIKE LANES.
WE'RE NOT GONNA JUST IGNORE THAT DIRECTION.
SO WE'RE BRINGING YOU AN OPTION WITH NO BIKE LANES.
AND I, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I THOUGHT WE HAD HAD A FEELING ON THIS COUNCIL FROM THE BA THAT, THAT WE HAD MOVED PAST THIS.
I KNOW YOU'RE BRINGING US TWO OPTIONS TONIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A THIRD OPTION OF, IF IT'S NOT BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
I LIKE QUORUM DRIVE THE WAY IT IS.
IT MAY NEED SOME REPAIRS ALONG THE WAY, BUT THIS IS NOT A ROAD THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY TORN UP AND DISRUPT THESE BUSINESSES AND THESE PEOPLE ALONG THE WAY AND SPEND $35 MILLION ON A ROAD THAT IS FUNCTIONAL THE WAY IT IS, AT LEAST FOR A, A, A FORESEEABLE FUTURE TILL WE FIND OUT WHAT ALL'S GOING ON.
AND YOU DIDN'T HIT ON IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION HERE, BUT IN YOUR INSIDE OF THIS, YOU'RE SHOWING ALL THESE ARTSY BUS STOPS AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF THAT'S GONNA COST A LOT OF MONEY ALONG THE WAY.
UH, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU INTENTIONALLY GLAZED OVER THAT OR THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT LATER, BUT WITH THE STATE OF DART RIGHT NOW WITH OTHER CITIES WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH PROVIDING THINGS LIKE THAT SLOWED DOWN AT THIS POINT, CHRIS.
WELL, SO FIRST OF ALL, UM, DAVID BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD POINT.
UM, I, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING AN INVESTMENT IN AN AREA THAT COULD ENCOURAGE
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MORE INVESTMENT.UM, QUALMS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US.
THOSE OFFICE TOWERS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR OF ALARM.
AND THEY'RE SLOWLY MAKING THEIR WAY DOWN TO A VALUE OF ZERO.
AND I THINK ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ENCOURAGE, UM, FOLKS TO COME BACK TO THE OFFICE, UM, WE NEED TO DO IT.
UM, I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT, THAT, UM, BUILDING OWNERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS ARE LOOKING FOR WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SPACE.
AND I THINK YOU WOULD SEE SOME, SOME OF THOSE THINGS IN THIS DESIGN.
I DO THINK PEOPLE LOOK FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, EASIER ACCESS TO GETTING OUTTA THE OFFICE AND WALKING SAFELY.
UM, I THINK HAVING A PARK RIGHT THERE REALLY HELPS.
UM, I THINK THE CONNECTIVITY TO BELTLINE AND ALL OF THOSE RESTAURANTS, UM, IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND IT GETS TO BE AN AMENITY FOR THOSE OFFICE TOWERS.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY I LIKE THIS PROJECT.
UM, CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE 18 SO THAT THERE, THERE'S TWO LANES EACH DIRECTION WITH A BIKE LANE, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO WE'RE HAVING THE SILVER LINE COME THROUGH OUR TOWN, RIGHT? LET'S FORGET ABOUT THE DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WITH DART.
WE'D BE SILLY NOT TO TRY TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR FOLKS TO TAKE THE DART INTO OUR CITY AND GET TO THEIR OFFICE.
THERE'S, THERE'S TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC EACH WAY AND WE'RE GETTING A WAY TO GET TO THE DARK STATION.
SO IF YOU GO SOUTH OF BELTLINE, THAT'S WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE CHALLENGING BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ON QUM IN THAT AREA AND IT DOES GET BACKED UP, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET TO LANDMARK.
SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, FIRST OF ALL, HOW ARE WE, AND, AND I KNOW THIS MIGHT NOT BE A QUESTION FOR TONIGHT, BUT HOW ARE WE GONNA GET PEOPLE ACROSS BELTLINE SAFELY, RIGHT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT NOW, BUT WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
AND THEN COULD THERE BE A COMPROMISE? UM, I, I THINK YOU SAID THEY'RE, THEY'RE 10 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALKS, SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HELP ME.
IS THAT CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, IN THE EYES OF TRANSPORTATION, IS THAT A HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL? I MEAN COULD SOMEONE RIDE THEIR BIKE FROM THE STATION ON A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK AND WE EXPECT THAT THAT THERE'D BE ENOUGH ROOM FOR PEDESTRIANS TO GET BY AS WELL? YOU ARE CORRECT.
UM, 10 FOOT'S THE MINIMUM WIDTH TO BE A MULTI-USE OR SHARED USE PATH AND THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO FEET OF CLEARANCE ON EITHER SIDE OF IT AND THEN THAT COMPLIES WITH KIND OF AASHTO SAFETY STANDARDS OR A MULTI-USE TRAIL.
AND THEN 10 FOOT SIDEWALKS ARE ON THE EAST SIDE OR WEST SIDE? THE WEST SIDE.
AND THEN COMING DOWN WHEN YOU HIT LANDMARK CAN, I'M STILL A LITTLE CONFUSED ON HOW WE'RE GONNA ALLEVIATE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT, SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC 'CAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHERE THINGS GET DICEY AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
UM, WE WOULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT DOING A TRAFFIC MODEL IN THAT AREA.
OUR TRAFFIC COUNTS, UM, DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE DATA IN THAT AREA, BUT AS I MENTIONED, JUST LOOKING AT IT MYSELF FROM BEING OUT THERE AND WATCHING, UM, THE TRAFFIC FROM ABOUT FOUR 15 TO ABOUT 5 45, UM, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW CARS THAT BACK UP AND AT LEAST HEADED OUT OF TOWN.
SO HEADED, UM, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE EASTBOUND.
SO WHETHER YOU'RE GOING NORTH OR SOUTH ON THE D AND T, UM, WE WOULD WANT TO AT LEAST EVALUATE KEEPING IT TWO LANES IN THAT AREA.
UM, WHAT WE SEE A LOT OF THE STACKING IS, IS BECAUSE EVERYONE IS QUEUING IN THE LEFT LANE OR THE NORTHERNMOST LANE BECAUSE THEY ALL WANT TO GO DNT AND TURN NORTH AND GO UNDER THE BRIDGE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD LOOK AT THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS IN THAT EVALUATION.
THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE HEADED OUT IN THAT, UH, TIMEFRAME, BUT THERE WOULD BE MORE SPACE IF WE JUST WENT WITH A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK AROUND THE LANDMARK AREA RATHER THAN THE BIKE LANES.
IS THAT RIGHT? THERE WOULD BE A FEW ADDITIONAL FEET, YES.
IS AND IS THERE ENOUGH ROOM ON THE EAST SIDE TO DO A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK? UM, WE HAVEN'T EVALUATED THAT AT THIS TIME.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAYOUT WHERE YOU HAVE THE BIKE LANES, THERE'S ROOM BECAUSE IT'S CURB LINEAR TRAIL AND THERE'S A BUFFER, UM, WHERE YOU ELIMINATE THE BIKE LANES.
THERE IS NOT ENOUGH RIGHT OF WAY TO HAVE A WIDER WALK WHERE UM, WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE BACK OF CURB AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM.
SO YOU'RE THE, THE WIDER PATH IS ON THE EAST SIDE, RIGHT? AND THE SKINNIER PATH IS ON THE, THE WEST SIDE.
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THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND.UM, WE DID A LOT OF ITERATIONS OF THIS LAYOUT AND WENT BACK AND FORTH ON THE SIDE, BUT YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THE SIDE THAT WE HAD THE BIKE LAYING ON, WE ORIGINALLY HAD THE WIDER PATH, BUT THEN WE CAME BACK AND MADE A MODIFICATION.
I APOLOGIZE, CHRIS, YOU WERE ASKING IF WE COULD HAVE 10 FEET ON EACH SIDE, WOULD THAT'D BE AN OPTION? I KNOW WOULD COST MORE RIGHT OF WAY? IS IS THAT A, IS THAT A BIG FORKLIFT OR IS THAT A SHOVEL RIGHT OF WAY? THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
YEAH, I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT EVALUATING THAT.
I THINK ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND TOO IS SEVERAL OF THE BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT HERE ARE AT DIFFERENT, UM, ELEVATIONS AND THEY'RE, YOU'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING.
BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DEFINITELY EVALUATE.
I I WOULDN'T BE REAL, REAL FIRM ON THAT.
THAT'S 'CAUSE I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE IT ON ONE SIDE AND I LIKE THE SKINNIER SIDEWALK HAVING THE BUFFER.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S ADVANTAGES TO BOTH.
SO ON THE BEER GARDEN, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY JUST A, A TERM, IT'S A PLACEMAKING TYPE THING, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S A, BECAUSE A COFFEE BAR, IT'S A, IT'S A SMOOTHIE SHACK OR ALCOHOL NECESSARILY.
YOU'RE JUST GONNA PLUMB FOR IT AND, AND ELECTRICAL AND ALL THAT STUFF.
CORRECT? IT IS TO DESCRIBE THE ATMOSPHERE SURE.
OF WHAT'S BEING CREATED AND ON THE SEWER COSTS.
AND RANDY, I MAY HAVE MISINTERPRETED THIS, THE, THE SEWER COST YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, IS THE BIG PIPES UNDERGROUND? WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SEWER CLEANOUTS BEING A MAJOR COST FOR THE FOOD TRUCKS, RIGHT? CORRECT.
WE ARE RECOMMENDING WITH THE PAVILION THE ADDITION OF A RESTROOM SINCE THERE WILL BE BEVERAGES SOLD HERE, JUST LIKE WE HAVE AT JAVA AND HOBBS, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE, THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE SEWER PIPE WOULD GO.
BUT THE SEWER IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT'S THE BIG COST OF WHY WE'RE ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WE'RE REPLACING THE ROAD TOO, UNDERNEATH THE ROAD.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE STAKE IN THE HEART OF THE BIKE LANES CAME IN.
UH, I KNOW THAT WE KIND OF SOURED ON THAT AND I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
UM, I PERSONALLY AM NOT IN FAVOR OF BIKE LANES ON THIS PROJECT.
JUST, UH, I PREFER THE FOUR LANES.
SO, UM, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S THE, THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH THAT YOU JUST DON'T THROW 'EM OUT AND JUST IGNORE WHAT THE, ALL THE COMMITTEE DID AND ALL THAT WORK.
THIS IS THE CURRENT COUNCIL, LET THE COUNCIL DECIDE THESE TWO OPTIONS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY THOUGHT ON IT.
I THINK MARLON WAS THAT, I MEAN IF, SURE.
UM, LADIES, CAN WE GO BACK TO SLIDE EIGHT? AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT THE PARK ALREADY AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RECREATING THAT THE TRIANGLE PARK, BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE THESE OTHER TWO GREEN SPACES.
SO, SO WOULD THOSE BE TWO NEW GREEN SPACES THAT WOULD BE, UH, ADDED? THOSE WOULD BE IN LARGE SPACES ADJACENT TO THE TRAIL THAT WE COULD INCLUDE ADDITIONAL SEATING AS A COMPONENT OF THE QUORUM ARTWALK.
WE COULD HAVE THE SEATING CONSOLIDATED WITH BUS STOPS.
THE BUS STOPS DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE THERE, UM, BUT IT WOULD JUST BE AN ENLARGED RIGHT OF WAY AREA WITH SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, FEEDING AND PUBLIC ART.
AND THOSE ARE THOSE ALTERNATE BID ITEMS THAT I DISCUSSED WOULD BE THOSE AREAS.
AND I, AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THOSE ON THE STREET RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, UH, THOSE, WE CONVERTING SOMETHING, UH, CONCRETE HARDSCAPE OR SOMETHING TO, TO MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF GREEN SPACE, ADDED GREEN SPACE.
IT ACTUALLY IS EXISTING GREEN SPACE THAT WE WOULD BE ADDING IN SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE BESIDES TURF AND THEN ADDING IN SOME SEATING COMPONENTS FOR, FOR BOTH OF THOSE TWO ON THE RIGHT.
UM, YEAH, WHERE I'M, WHERE I'M AT WITH THIS IS, IS, UM, I I DON'T THINK THE DESIGN OF QUORUM DRIVE IS BROKEN.
THERE'S SOMETHING, I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
UM, AND SO I AM IN FAVOR OF THE, THE FOUR LANE, UH, DIVIDED ROADWAY WITH OR WITHOUT THE SHEROS.
UM, AND, AND I'M FOR NOT CHANGING, UH, NOT, NOT REMOVING THE STREET PARKING AND LANDSCAPING.
AND I'M ALSO FOR KEEPING AND NOT CHANGING THE, THE LITTLE PARK SPACE WHERE, WHERE SUNUP AT QUORUM IS LOCATED.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT WITH, WITH THIS DECISION PACKAGE.
SO YOU WANNA KEEP THE ROAD CONFIGURATION THE WAY IT IS? YES SIR.
SO I HAD A COMMENT AND A QUESTION.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'M, I DON'T EVER WANT TO GIVE UP A ROAD A LANE FOR BIKE LANE,
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SO I'M A FOUR LANE GUY TOO.BUT WHEN CHRIS SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE 10 FOOT SIDEWALK, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT RIDING A BIKE ON THAT, IF YOU LEAVE IT AS FOUR LANES AND WE HAVE A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK, CAN THAT FUNCTION AS A BIKE LANE ON THE SIDEWALK AS OPPOSED TO A SHERO? IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? SO ON THE WEST SIDE, WE COULD STILL HAVE THE BIKE LANE.
IT WOULDN'T BE TWO DEDICATED BIKE LANES, BUT IT WOULD BE ON THE SIDEWALK INSTEAD OF A SHERO.
WE COULD HAVE A SHARED USE PATH AS LONG AS IT'S 10 FOOT WIDE THAT BIKES COULD USE.
AND THAT ONE YOU SAID WAS GONNA BE 10 FOOT WIDE? CORRECT.
THE OTHER REASON THAT, I MEAN, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF FOUR LANES ANYWAY, BUT IF YOU DO TAKE IT DOWN TO TWO LANES, IF THAT WAS THE WAY WE VOTED, I UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET THAT THE OTHER SIDE COULD BE ONE LANE EACH DIRECTION WHILE THE CONSTRUCTION'S GOING ON.
BUT WHEN YOU GET ONE SIDE FINISHED AND IT ONLY HAS A SINGLE LANE, THEN WHEN YOU GO TO RECONSTRUCT THE OTHER SIDE, THE TRAFFIC CAN ONLY GO ONE WAY.
AND I THINK WE NEED IT GOING BOTH WAYS.
SO I THINK FROM THE CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT, BECAUSE HAVING HAD A BUSINESS ON A ROAD THAT TOOK FIVE YEARS TO FIX, IT'S, IT'S TERRIBLE WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO OPERATE A BUSINESS AND THAT ROAD IN FRONT OF YOU IS RIPPED UP.
SO I THINK THE FOUR LANES IS, IS A WAY BETTER IDEA.
BUT IF THAT SIDEWALK COULD BE A A BIKE LANE, I, I MEAN MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A WIN-WIN.
UH, IN TRAVELING AROUND THE COUNTRY AND LOOKING, YOU KNOW, SINCE, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL AND WE TALK ABOUT BIKE LANES, WE TALK ABOUT ALL THIS STUFF, IT JUST PIQUES YOUR INTEREST WHEN YOU GO TO OTHER TOWNS TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THERE ARE MANY TOWNS THAT I GO TO AND THAT THEY HAVE SIDEWALKS IN THE MEDIAN AND ALONG QUORUM WE HAVE A LARGE GREEN SPACE THERE ALREADY.
HAVE WE HAD ANY PLANS OR DESIGNS LOOKED AT IN PUTTING A SIDEWALK IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT GREEN SPACE, LEAVING THE ROAD THE WAY IT IS AND HAVE A, A SIDEWALK IN THE MIDDLE AND IN THE MIDDLE SERVES THE PURPOSE OF, OF BOTH SIDES.
UM, ONE OF THE KIND OF GUIDING GOALS THAT WE HAD FROM THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS TO PRESERVE THE TREES IN THE CORRIDOR.
AND SO BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT ARE IN THE MEDIANS, WE DIDN'T CONSIDER THAT.
NOW IF YOU ARE TALKING JUST SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT LARGE GREEN SPACE WHERE SUNUP AT QUORUM IS, WE DID LOOK AT COULD WE JUST PUT WALKS IN THAT AREA, LEAVE THE AREA MORE SIMPLE AND LET IT BE AN OUTDOOR SPACE THAT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY COULD GO TO.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF SAFETY CONCERNS WITH GETTING PEDESTRIANS ACROSS THE ROAD INTO THAT GREEN SPACE, ESPECIALLY AROUND RUSH HOUR.
AND SO WE LOOKED INTO IT, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW WE PROCEEDED.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND A WHOLE LOT OF WHAT YOU SAID, BUT I GOT THE GIST OF THAT.
UM, I WOULD ALSO MENTION THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROADWAY, SO PUTTING A SIDEWALK IN THE MEDIAN IN THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ELEVATION.
SO BEING ABLE TO GET A SIDEWALK THAT WOULDN'T HAVE STEPS OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE TRAVERSE SO THAT WE COULD MAKE IT A DA COMPLIANT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO TRAVERSE AROUND THE TREES AND THEN ALSO IN THAT, IN THAT AREA.
WELL I WOULD'VE THOUGHT THAT TRAVERSING THERE WOULD'VE BEEN EASIER.
HAVE THE MEANDERING SIDEWALKS, LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT JUST GO IN BETWEEN THE TREES AND GO, BUT I'M, I ACCEPT YOUR, I ACCEPT YOUR PREMISE THERE.
UM, I'M WITH, YOU KNOW, I'M A FAN OF CHRIS.
HE WANTS TO WALK AND GET A HAMBURGER.
I RIDE MY BICYCLE A LOT IN TOWN AND I RIDE ON A SIDEWALK.
BICYCLES CAN RIDE ON SIDEWALKS.
I, ALL OF THIS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR, FOR A BIKE LANE IS JUST, I'M, I CAN'T DO IT.
OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, I JUST GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
FIRST OF ALL, UM, FOR TO, I I, I LIKE THIS PLAN VERY MUCH.
UM, AND I'M GLAD WE'RE, I'M GLAD WE'RE HOPEFULLY GETTING TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
UM, I THINK TO NOT DO THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE ROAD DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
'CAUSE THEN YOU HAVE THIS ISLAND OUT THERE WITH TRAFFIC GOING AROUND ALL SIDES OF IT.
THAT, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT THAT WAY.
UM, UH, AS FAR AS THE BIKE LANES, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I I'M NOT, I'M, I DON'T, I DON'T, I I CAN GO EITHER WAY WITH THEM.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THE BIKE LANES MAKE AS MUCH SENSE IF, IF THEY DON'T CONNECT TO BIKE LANES FURTHER TO THE NORTH, LIKE WE WOULD'VE HAD, I COULD.
RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST KIND OF A, JUST A SEGMENT.
SO I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY REALLY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE THERE AT THIS POINT.
BUT, UM, BUT I, I LIKE A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND I DON'T CARE
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IF YOU CALL IT A BEER GARDEN OR WHATEVER.IT'S, IT'S THE CONCEPT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, THEN YOU WORK OUT THE DETAILS LATER ON.
UH, BUT I'M IN FAVOR OF IT AND I'M, I'M OKAY TO GO EITHER WAY ON THE, UH, FRONT ON THE BIKE LANES, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, SEEMS LIKE THIS COUNTS AS LEANING TOWARDS NO, NO BIKE LANES.
UM, CHRIS, JUST MY COMMENT IS, I, I DO THINK THE 10 FOOT SIDEWALKS ON EACH SIDE, UM, WOULD BE A GOOD COMPROMISE.
UM, IF ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BELT LINE CAN WE FIT 10 FOOT SIDEWALKS ON WHERE YOU WERE PROPOSING A BIKE LANE, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY EVALUATE.
UM, I THINK 10 FOOT SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDE OF THE ROADWAY IS PROBABLY NOT DOABLE JUST BECAUSE OF THE ROADWAY WIDTH RIGHT OF AWAY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON QUORUM, EVEN EVEN PURCHASING ADDITIONAL.
UM, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'VE BROUGHT FORWARD THE 10 FOOT ON ONE SIDE AND THE EIGHT FOOT ON THE OTHER.
UM, JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH OF THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEN WHERE WE COULD ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF, UM, RIGHT AWAY IS VERY PRICEY AT THIS TIME.
BECAUSE I DO THINK, YEAH, I WAS GONNA, I I I DO THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO FIND A WAY TO CONNECT THE DART RAIL WITH THAT SOUTHERN PORTION OF QUORUM.
AND IT DOESN'T, FOR ME, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A BIKE LANE, A DEDICATED BIKE LANE, BUT IF WE CAN DO A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK FROM THE STATION TO QUORUM OR LANDMARK, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE.
YEAH, I'M GONNA AGREE WITH CHRIS AND THAT TO THAT POINT, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NORTH SIDE, A BELT LINE COMING OUT OF THE SILVER STATION, A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK, UM, THAT HAS CLEAR AND CLEAR DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE FOR THOSE, USING IT AS A WALKER VERSUS A CYCLIST WOULD BE INCREDIBLY AFFORDABLE.
UM, IMPRACTICAL KNOWING WE'RE NOT, UM, A CYCLE CITY, BUT WE HAVE CYCLISTS SO TO BE, TO BE FAVORABLE.
I UNDERSTAND NOT USING IT ON EAST AND WESTBOUND ON NORTH OF BELTLINE ON QUORUM, BUT, UM, I'M IN THE SAME POOL.
JUST USE WIDER SIDEWALKS WHERE THEY CAN BE PERMITTED.
UH, CAN YOU GO TO, TO 17 PLEASE? JUST ONE BACK.
I'VE, I'VE BEEN CONCENTRATING MAINLY ON THE QUORUM FROM BELTLINE TO THE NORTH TOLLWAY.
UM, MOVING UP TO THE OTHER SECTION OF QUORUM IN THIS PICTURE YOU SAY EXISTING STREET PARKING BEHIND THAT BLUE TRUCK, DOES THAT STREET HAVE PARKING DESIGNATED ON THAT? NOW? I DON'T SEE THAT IN THAT PICTURE AND I DON'T REMEMBER IT AS I'M DRIVING DOWN THROUGH THERE.
IT, I KNOW IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE.
IT DOES HAVE EXISTING STREET PARKING.
AND KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE JUST GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATIONS TO GET YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE ROADWAY.
I I JUST WAS SEEING THAT AND I SAID I DON'T SEE ANY PARKING THERE.
UM, DO BOTH OF YOUR PLANS TAKE OUT THE STREET SIDE PARKING ALONG THAT AREA? THAT, THAT, THAT STREET SIDE PARKING IS VERY VALUABLE ALONG IN THERE.
ANOTHER, YOU WANNA SEE IT WITH
SORRY, I'VE GONE THROUGH THESE THINGS.
YOU WOULD THINK I WOULD KNOW THEM VERY WELL.
SO YOU'RE ASKING DIVIDED IF IT TAKES OUT THE STREET SIDE PARKING? YES.
WELL, I WOULD NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL.
IT'S A SMALL SECTION AND I KNOW THOSE BUSINESSES ALONG THERE DO NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL.
THERE'S I BELIEVE 10 SPACES, 10 SPACES FROM IN, IN THAT ENTIRE AREA THAT WOULD BE REMOVED.
AND THOSE ARE 10 PRIME AREAS THAT THEY FIGHT OVER THERE TOO.
SO IIII JUST DON'T SEE THE REDESIGN AS WHY, I MEAN, THAT STREET'S NOT THAT OLD AND WE'VE DEVELOPED IT WITH THAT STREET IN MIND.
I'M, I'M IN MARLON'S CAMP, I DON'T SEE A REDESIGN NECESSARY.
WE'RE GETTING IN THE ROAD REDOING BUSINESS IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON.
I'VE HEARD NOTHING OF REPAIR AND QUORUM MAY HAVE SOME SPOTS THAT NEEDS REPAIRING.
I DON'T SEE THIS AS A BULLDOZER REDO.
I'M, I'M IN MARLON'S CAMP ON THE, ON THE TRIANGLE PARK AND THE REDESIGN OF QUORUM.
JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS WAS A BOND ELECTION PROJECT, SO THIS WAS VOTED ON BY THE VOTERS TO RECONSTRUCT THIS ROAD.
HOWARD, IT'S STILL UP TO US TO VOTE ON IT AT THIS POINT IF YOU WANT TO GO AGAINST THE VOTERS.
SO ON SLIDE 18 IS, IS WHERE IT SAYS IN THE RIGHT MARGIN, EXISTING ON STREET PARKING
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REPLACED WITH TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD.SO ARE YOU NOW SAYING THAT THAT PARALLEL PARKING ON THE EAST SIDE IS ALSO GONNA GO AWAY? NO, SIR.
THE PARALLEL PARKING THAT'S IN FRONT OF AMIE RESIDENTIAL WOULD, WOULD REMAIN INTACT.
SO ANY, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE THE PARALLEL PARKING IS BESIDES IN FRONT OF AMIE, BUT, BUT THE PARALLEL PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE AND THERE IS SOME, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH THAN THIS PICTURE SHOWS, SO WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T SEE IT.
BUT IS IT IF WE WESTERN INTERNATIONAL IS, YEAH, I THINK THERE, IT'S JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM AMLI, UM, ON THE WEST SIDE.
I THINK THE BUSINESS IS CALLED WESTERN INTERNATIONAL.
IS IT LIKE BETWEEN ARTHUR'S AND MM-HMM
AND WHEN THAT PROJECT WAS BUILT, UM, I WAS ON THE DRC COMMITTEE AND THE DEVELOPER OF THE PROJECT DIDN'T ADD IN THOSE PARALLEL PARKING SPACES.
THE TOWN ASKED THEM TO ADD THOSE SPACES.
SO THOSE SPACES WEREN'T THERE FOR HIS NEED.
IT WAS THERE AT A REQUEST FROM THE TOWN TO MATCH WHAT WAS ACROSS THE STREET AT ALEY.
DID ANYBODY SPEAK TO THAT OWNER AND ASK IF THEY CARE IF WE TAKE THOSE SPACES? WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK WITH THAT OWNER, BUT WE DO HAVE A LIST OF ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS TO HAVE AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROJECT.
AND THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE DO IS SPEAK WITH THE OWNER AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
I I WOULD, I REALLY HATE TAKING ANY PARKING OUT ANYWAY, BUT I, I'M TRYING TO COMPROMISE IF HE DOESN'T CARE THAT HE LOSES THE PARKING AND IF WE COULD SOMEHOW CONNECT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH USE OF BIKE LANE WE'D GET FROM THAT SECTION.
LIKE, UM, BRUCE SAID SINCE WE TOOK OUT NORTH OF, UM, THE COTTON BELT, IT JUST KIND OF STARTS RIGHT THERE AT DART.
BUT IF PEOPLE WANNA RIDE, BRING THEIR BIKE ON THE BUS OR THE TRAIL, THE TRAIN, AND THEN RIDE TO WORK, I MEAN, I WOULDN'T DO IT, BUT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT.
IF WE COULD RIDE ON THE SIDEWALK.
I'M JUST ALL ABOUT FOUR LANES AND THE, THE BIKE LANE.
YEAH, I CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT, THAT, THERE YOU GO.
UM, YEAH, I HAVE NO DESIRE TO REMOVE THE, THE STREET PARKING IN THE STREET LANDSCAPING AND THE TREES AND MOVE FIRE HYDRANTS AND SO FORTH TO, TO, UM, I JUST DON'T, I DON'T WANT US TO DO THAT.
I, I I THINK IT'S LOOKING GREAT RIGHT NOW.
I, YOU KNOW, I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE APPROVED WESTERN INTERNATIONAL AND, AND IT, THEY DID A GREAT JOB AND UM, THEY DID EXACTLY WHAT WE ASKED, WHICH IS, LIKE YOU SAID, MIRROR, MIRROR WHAT WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
RANDY, ONE MORE QUICK THING JUST TO RESPOND TO YOU, DAVID, ON THE BOND ELECTION, AND WE COULD, IF WE WANTED TO GO AGAINST THE VOTERS, YOUR COMMENT, I DON'T BELIEVE THE VOTERS WHEN THEY VOTED FOR THE STREET, WERE TOLD OF BEER GARDENS AND, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE FOR FOOD TRUCKS.
I THINK WHEN THE VOTERS VOTED TO FIX A STREET OR REDO A STREET, THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT QUORUM DRIVE THE WAY IT IS.
SO THAT PUTS ME FIRMLY IN IF WE'RE GONNA REDO QUORUM, I DON'T THINK THE DESIGN IS BROKEN.
I THINK THE VOTERS WANTED, IF THEY WANTED TO REDO THE STREET, THEY WANTED TO REDO THE STREET, NOT REDESIGN IT WITH PARKS AND BEER GARDENS AND FOOD TRUCKS IS ALL I'M SAYING.
I THINK THOSE BECOME THE AMENITIES, THOSE BECOME THE AMENITIES THAT COULD POSSIBLY GET PEOPLE TO LEASE UP THOSE BUILDINGS OR BUILD BUILDING OWNERS TO MAKE MORE INVESTMENT THERE.
I LIKE, UH, RANDY, I WAS FOCUSING MORE ON SOUTH QUORUM SOUTH OF BELTLINE, UM, SLIDE 24 TO ME, UM, THE ONE BEFORE THAT.
I I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY SEE THE REASON FOR THAT CHANGE.
UM, AND IS, IS THE ROAD, IS QUORUM NORTH OF THE BELTLINE NEWER THAN QUORUM SOUTH OF BELTLINE? IS IT IN THE SAME CRITICAL SHAPE THAT THE OVERALL ROADWAY NETWORK IS SIMILAR THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STRETCH OF THE ROADWAY? OKAY.
I JUST WANTED TO, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT QUORUM SOUTH IS REALLY ROUGH AND I KNOW IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF REPAIRS ON THERE.
YES, THERE'S A NUMBER OF PANEL REPLACEMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE AND A NUMBER THAT NEED TO BE PLA REPLACED.
UH, I, I DO, I DON'T WANT TO UNDO, UM, MUCH OF THIS DESIGN AND WHAT THE VOTERS DID VOTE FOR.
UM, BUT I, I CAN'T SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEING OF THAT MUCH
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VALUE.I, I GUESS THE REASON FOR THAT IS, UM, OVER THERE ON THE LEFT, EXISTING PARKING REMOVED, THAT'S THE BIG, UH, WALKING TRAIL, THE 10 FOOT, AND THAT'S THE WAY WE DID IT BY BECAUSE, UH, BY PUTTING IN THAT GREEN SPACE, JUST MOVING, MOVING IT OVER, I, I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR OF THAT, BUT, UM, EVERYTHING ELSE IS, UM, WITH NO, UM, DEDICATED BIKE LANES.
I'M SORRY, DARREN, YOU SAID YOU WOULD OR YOU WOULD NOT? I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR OF, OF THAT CHANGE.
I JUST DON'T SEE IT BEING THE SAME KIND OF VALUE AS, AS THE REST OF THE REDO OF QUORUM SOUTH.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING THE STREET PARKING, KEEPING IT MORE SIMILAR? YES.
AND, AND, UM, FINDING WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE FOR WIDENING THE SIDEWALK THERE.
IN ORDER TO WIDEN THE SIDEWALK, WE WILL NEED TO TAKE THE PARKING SPACES OR PUT THE SIDEWALK CLOSER TO THE EDGE OF THE CURB.
I WOULD BE MORE, UH, LESS IN FAVOR OF THAT, OF ALL THAT DISRUPTION FOR THAT, THAT SMALL GAIN.
UH, I, I, I DON'T LIKE LOSING PARKING SPACES, BUT THAT'S NOT THE, THE, THE MAJOR THING.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG REDO FOR A SIDEWALK.
DAN, UH, JANET, SINCE I WASN'T ON COUNCIL THEN, UH, CAN YOU SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE BOND ELECTION, WHAT THAT PACKAGE LOOKED LIKE FOR THE VOTERS? DID IT HAVE ANY UPGRADES IN TERMS OF TRIANGLE PARK CONCEPTS OR ANYTHING BACK THEN? SURE.
UM, I ACTUALLY PRESENTED, UM, THE PLACEMAKING COMPONENT, SO WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM THAT TALKED ABOUT THE ROAD REPLACEMENT.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED IN THE PROS MASTER PLAN, WHICH WAS TO CREATE AN OUTDOOR PARK THAT COULD BE PROGRAMMED, THAT HAD GATHERING SPACES IN IT.
SO THERE WAS SOME, SOME CONCEPTUAL, UM, THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE BOND ELECTION COMMITTEE AND THEN IT WAS ALSO A LINE ITEM IN WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT ON THE BOND ELECTION WEBPAGE AND BROCHURES.
UH, WE'VE HAD SOME, UH, GOOD DISCUSSION ON THIS.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE MOTION.
WOULD WE MOTION WITH OUR PROPOSED CHANGES? IT NEEDS TO BE, NEEDS TO BE PRETTY CLEAR.
UM, YOU THINK SPECIFICALLY LOST MY ITEM.
WOULD IT, WOULD IT HELP, UH, CLEAN IT UP IF WE FIGURED OUT THE ROAD CONFIGURATION? UM, I MEAN I'VE GOT, I'VE HEARD FROM SOME FOLKS, BUT NOT OTHERS.
SO YOUR SCENARIO WOULD JUST BE TO REJECT THIS, YOUR, YOUR MOTION FOR WHAT YOU WANT WOULD BE TO REJECT THE ITEM.
BUT IF IT'S WHAT DARREN IS, WHAT I THINK DARREN'S GOING, IT WOULD BE KIND OF A CAVEAT TO THE FOUR LANE OPTION I'D MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX B WITH THE FOUR LANES, NO BIKE LANES SHARES TO BE DETERMINED AT A FUTURE DATE.
UM, I'M OKAY WITH THE SIDEWALKS AS THEY ARE ON SOUTH QUORUM, A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK AND AN, AND A, UH, SMALLER SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE.
THE TRIANGLE PARK HAS CONFIGURED THE FINAL DESIGN TO BE DETERMINED AND THEN NOTE A, UM, HAVE TO HAVE A CHANGE ON THAT NORTH SIDE OF QUORUM TO HOW, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO WORD THAT.
DID NOT LOSE ANY PARKING SPACES.
DID NOT LOSE ANY PARKING SPACES.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
THANKS EVERYBODY FOR THE GOOD DISCUSSION.
UH, LET'S GO ONTO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW WHERE THE WORK SESSION ITEM, UM, ITEM FOUR D, WE ARE GOING TO POSTPONE THAT TILL A LATER MEETING.
WE'LL PUSH THAT TO A LATER MEETING.
[7. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.]
AND WE'LL JUST GO TO THE FINAL ITEM OF THE EVENING, THE ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.IT'S OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO EXPRESS, UH, EXPRESSION OF THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE, ET CETERA.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE? UH, YES, MAYOR, I DO.
UM, I JUST WANT TO, UH, SAY THANKS TO THE CITY OF FARMERS BRANCH AND THE BROOKHAVEN COUNTRY CLUB.
THEY PUT ON A HECK OF A, A PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT, THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.
AND, UH, BASICALLY WHAT IT, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE WORKING ON IS KIND OF A SUPER BOWL, ONE OF MAYBE ONE OF THREE, UM, MAJOR PICKLEBALL EVENTS.
AND, AND, UM, I LOVE ATTENDING BUT ALSO LOVE THE FACT THAT THEY JUST DID
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SUCH A PROFESSIONAL JOB AND, AND SO MANY PEOPLE CAME INTO OUR AREA AND STAYED AT OUR HOTELS AND ATE AT OUR RESTAURANTS.AND I'M SURE THAT IT'S SOME SHOPPING AND SO FORTH.
SO IT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT REMINDS ME OF, UH, THE LIVE GOLF TOURNAMENT IN CARROLLTON AND JUST, AND US, UM, UH, ABLE TO COMBINE FORCES WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND, AND HELP WHERE WE CAN HELP WITH HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS AND VICE VERSA.
AND, AND SO, UH, ANYWAY, I JUST KUDOS TO, TO, UH, FARMER'S BRANCH AND BROOKHAVEN COUNTRY CLUB FOR ALL THEY DID.
YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT EVENT THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE PUTTING ON OVER THERE.
AND ADDISON DE DEFINITELY BENEFITS FROM THAT.
DAN, I JUST, UM, IT WAS FUNNY TAKING THE, THE, THE TEAM PHOTO OUT FRONT.
I'D LIKE TO COMMEND BILL HAWLEY.
I KNOW HE'S SORT OF THE SHY GUY IN THE, UH, VISUAL DEPARTMENT AND WE'RE GONNA PHOTOSHOP AND MAYBE IN ON THAT PHOTO, BUT JUST WANNA COMMEND BILL AND HIS TEAM FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE HERE AT THE, UH, NEW TOWN HALL.
I WAS NOT HERE FOR THE LAST TOUR, SO GETTING TO SEE IT FOR THE FIRST TIME.
ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, I, I WANT TO, UH, RECOGNIZE, UH, OUR RESIDENT FRAN POWELL.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN IN HERE FOR JUST A FEW DAYS AND WE WEREN'T HERE LONG AT ALL.
AND SHE WAS IN THE HALLWAY WITH THE ARTIST HANGING UP THE, UH, THE NEW ART IN THE, UH, IN THE FOYER AREA OUT HERE.
AND IT REALLY MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL ARTWORK, UH, YOU KNOW, DRESSES UP THOSE BRICK WALLS OUT THERE.
AND, AND FRAN DOES A GREAT JOB OF, YOU KNOW, GIVING ARTISTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW, UH, SHOW SOME OF THEIR WORK.
AND SO I APPRECIATE FRAN'S EFFORTS IN THAT PART.
SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT? SURE.
UM, AND I CAN HEAR EVERYBODY ON THE D IS FINE, BUT I'VE BEEN STRUGGLING ALL NIGHT TO HEAR WHOEVER WAS SPEAKING AND I'M, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN, IT'S THE SAME WAY ON THIS SIDE TOO.
YEAH, THAT'S BEEN DIFFICULT, BUT OTHERWISE EVERYTHING'S BEEN GREAT.
YEAH, THEY'LL BE WORKING ON THAT.
MAYOR, I JUST WANNA ADD ONE, ONE LAST THING.
UM, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THIS FACILITY.
IT'S VERY LIGHT AND VERY BRIGHT.
UM, AND, AND THIS AND NEXT DOOR WE'VE MOVED, WE'VE CONSOLIDATED A LOT OF OUR, OUR, OUR TEAM IN THESE TWO BUILDINGS, AND THEY CAN, THEY CAN, UH, WORK TOGETHER, UM, EFFICIENTLY, QUICKLY, REACH EACH OTHER, AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING, UM, THAT WE'VE IMPROVED ON IN A MAJOR WAY.
SO TO EVERYBODY THAT, THAT MADE THAT HAPPEN, THANK YOU.
I KNOW FELICIA WAS REALLY A REALLY BIG AND AS FAR AS, UH, SPEARHEADING THE, UH, THE MOVE ITSELF AND, AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT FELICIA DOES OUT HERE EVERY DAY.
SO, UH, WE ALWAYS WANNA GIVE A LITTLE THANKS AND APPRECIATION TO FELICIA.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? ALRIGHT, IT SAYS IT'S 9 0 4, SO WE'RE ADJOURNED FOR THE NIGHT.