Oct 30, 2025 Bond Advisory Committee

[1. Call Meeting to Order]

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WELL. WELCOME EVERYONE. I'LL START BY CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

AS A STAFF PERSON, SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE A CHAIR YET, AT 6:03 P.M.

ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 30TH, AND THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU THROUGH THE NEXT FEW MEETINGS ON THIS PROJECT.

[a. Introductions of Committee Members, Town staff, and consultants.]

THIS WAS DISTRIBUTED BY EMAIL AND IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE FOR ANYONE THAT WAS INTERESTED.

BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE MEAT OF OUR PRESENTATION THIS EVENING WE DID WANT TO START BY DOING SOME INTRODUCTIONS.

SO WE'LL START WITH THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, IF YOU PLEASE.

JUST GO AROUND AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND MAYBE JUST YOUR BACKGROUND OR YOUR PROFESSION.

SO SCOTT WILL KICK IT OFF WITH YOU. SCOTT HUNT LIVE DOWN IN IN MERIDIAN SQUARE, JUST DOWN THE ROAD.

AND MY BACKGROUND IS GROCERY AND MANAGEMENT AND THEN PROCUREMENT IS A SECOND BACKGROUND AND JUST RETIRED A YEAR AGO. ON THIS. SO MY NAME IS JOE OR JOSEPH PEDROZA.

I AM A HOMEOWNER HERE ON DISTRICT A, RIGHT ON CIRCLE.

AND MY BACKGROUND IS IN TECHNOLOGY FOR 30 YEARS READY TO RETIRE THAT.

SO ALTHOUGH AI IS KIND OF DRIVING EVERYTHING RIGHT.

SO GOOD TO BE HERE. I'M GLAD TO BE HERE. THANK YOU.

I'M JIM DECKER, MY WIFE LINDA 56 YEARS OF MARRIAGE LIVED IN THE OAKS NORTH.

I BASICALLY GREW UP IN DALLAS, AND WE FOUND OUT EDISON WELL, YEARS AGO AND GOT IN LOVE WITH IT.

THIS IS OUR FOREVER HOME. I I SPENT THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF MY LIFE AFTER COLLEGE AS A CPA WITH A BIG EIGHT ACCOUNTING FIRM GOT INTO RETAIL WHOLESALE, ALTHOUGH THAT SMALL MANUFACTURING.

I LATER ACTUALLY BUILT A FEW CUSTOM HOMES TO QUICKLY BUILD WATERFRONT LOTS ON THE GROUNDS THAT MOST OF MY TIME AT THE ATHLETIC CENTER.

PICKLEBALL. AND JAMES FRANCO IN THE SAME HOUSE IN ALLISON IN OAKS NORTH FOR 34 YEARS.

I HAVE A HISTORY OF FOUR YEARS IN THE COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER BUSINESS AS MARKETING.

I NOW RETIRED AND I GARDEN PAINT. AND ALTHOUGH THE CITY OF ADDISON BERRIES.

OH, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT. I WOULD SAY YOU'RE QUITE AN ASSET TO THE CITY OF ADDISON OR TOWN OF ADDISON.

I AM TRICIA STEWART, ALSO KNOWN AS TRISH. JUST LIKE JOE.

I HAVE TWO NAMES, JUST LIKE JOE. I ALSO LIVE IN DISTRICT A.

I THINK YOU'RE AN ORIGINAL HOMEOWNER TOO, AREN'T YOU, JOE? OH, OKAY.

WELL, I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE IT WAS DIRT ON THE GROUND AND LIVED THERE WITH MY HUSBAND AND MY SON, AND I'M IN SALES. I'M ARMANDO GALLARDO. I'M AN ARCHITECT.

I LIVE ON MEADOW MEADOWS. WE ACTUALLY LIVED HERE RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE BACK IN 1979.

MY WIFE AND I, SHE WENT TO NYU. BUT DON'T TELL ANYBODY.

AND WE COME FULL CIRCLE. MOVING BACK TO DALLAS ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO FROM NEW YORK.

SO I AM NANCY CRAIG. I THINK I KNOW MOST EVERYBODY IN THE IN THE ROOM.

I'VE BEEN IN ADDISON FOR 25 YEARS NOW, AND OBVIOUSLY I LOVE IT FOR MANY, MANY, MANY REASONS, HAVE BEEN ACTIVE WITH THE TOWN IN SEVERAL CAPACITIES.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS PROJECT AND WORKING WITH EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS TOM BROWN, AND I WAS GOING TO SAY, FRAN, I'VE BEEN HERE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE.

SAME 34 YEARS. BUT HE'S GOT US BEAT. THIS GUY NEXT DOOR.

I'M. I'M. MY PROFESSION IS I OWN SOME CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.

SO CONSTRUCTION DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S KIND OF FOR NOW.

SO. MY NAME IS GUILLERMO QUINTANILLA. 38 YEARS HERE IN EDISON.

YEAH. PROUD TO BE HERE. I'M A MECHANICAL DESIGNER.

I OWN MY OWN BUSINESS NOW FOR 28 YEARS. TRYING TO RETIRE, I THINK SO I'M GRATEFUL TO BE HERE.

BERTHA RIVERA GROUP. I LIVE IN ADDISON. ALSO ABOUT 16 YEARS NOW.

I'M A DEPUTY CONSTABLE, SO I WORK FOR DALLAS COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT.

I'VE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR AS A DEPUTY FOR OVER 38 YEARS.

THE MAJORITY OF THAT TIME I HAVE WORKED IN THE ADDISON AREA, NORTH DALLAS AREA.

SO WHEN IT CAME TO LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO BUY A NEXT HOME.

I CAME TO MADISON AND AGAIN, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 16 YEARS. I LOVE IT HERE.

SO THANK YOU. HI, I'M JIMMY BARKER. I'M A SHORT TIMER COMPARED TO MOST PEOPLE HERE.

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MY BACKGROUND IS I'M A PARALEGAL AND I MANAGE A LAW FIRM IN UPTOWN.

AND LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING PART OF THIS PROCESS. GREAT.

ROBERT JACOBI I'VE BEEN IN MADISON FOR 30 YEARS, AND GLAD TO BE A PART OF THIS.

I WAS I HAD BEEN IN PRIVATE EQUITY AND BUSINESS START UP KIND OF FORMATION HAS BEEN MY BACKGROUND.

I'M PHILIP VALENTINE. I'VE LIVED HERE 30 YEARS.

I'M A LARGE LOSS INSURANCE ADJUSTER. I. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH YOU ALL.

I'M RON WHITEHEAD. I CAME HERE TO WORK IN 1982, BUT THERE WEREN'T VERY MANY HOUSES, SO I DROVE BACK AND FORTH FROM IRVING FOR THREE YEARS. BUT WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR 40 YEARS.

WE CAME. WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE IN 1985. I WAS THE FORMER CITY MANAGER FOR 32 YEARS.

AND I'LL GIVE A KIND OF A DISCLAIMER NOW. I WAS HERE WHEN THIS BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT, AND FRANKLY, IT WASN'T VERY GOOD FROM THE BEGINNING.

THEY HAD SELECTED THE ARCHITECT AND THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY BEFORE I GOT HERE.

BUT THERE WERE ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS WITH. AND WE'VE KIND OF LIVED WITH THOSE FOR ALL THESE FOR 40 YEARS.

SO I'M INTERESTED IN THIS PROCESS AND EXCITED TO BE PART OF IT.

THANK YOU. WELL. THANK YOU. WE'LL JUST TAKE A QUICK MINUTE TO DO INTRODUCTIONS OF TOWN STAFF OR CONSULTANTS THAT YOU MAY SEE COMING UP TO PRESENT OR ANSWER QUESTIONS. WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU AND YOUR WORK.

SO I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND PASSION, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO START AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO A LITTLE WELCOME TO YOU.

THIS IS SEAN HAYES, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. MY NAME IS PASSION HAYES.

I'M THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, AND DAVID IS ON THE WAY.

I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THIS PROCESS IS SO IMPORTANT AND COULDN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT ALL OF YOU.

SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I'M A SHORT TIMER COMPARED TO SOME OF YOU GUYS AT THE TABLE.

I'VE BEEN ADDISON FOR 19 YEARS. YEAH, IT'S BEEN A GREAT TIME.

ALL RIGHT, IF WE WANT TO GO AROUND. BLAKE, DO YOU WANT TO START? JUST. IF YOU COULD STAND UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

I'M BLAKE POTTS. I'VE ALSO BEEN HERE 19 YEARS, AND I'M A LIEUTENANT OVER A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.

THE INVESTIGATION PROVISIONS. SO. I GOT TO BE HERE.

GOT TO BE A PART OF THIS. THANK YOU. THANKS. STEPHEN GOODMAN, THE TOWN'S CFO.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR SIX YEARS. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

BILL OLLEY, DIRECTOR OF GENERAL SERVICES. SO THAT IS ALL THE BUILDINGS AND ALL THE FLEET.

AND AGAIN, LOOK FORWARD TO WORK. I'M JASON CAVE WITH GF DESIGN.

I LEAD THE CIVIC PRACTICE FOR GF, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE PARTNERING WITH THE TOWN ON THIS PROJECT.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME OF OUR WORK AT THE NEXT MEETING.

BUT EXCITED TO BE HERE AND HELP TAKE THE NEXT STEP ON THIS PROJECT WITH Y'ALL.

I'M DON WURTZBURGER WITH SEVEN POINT DESIGN AND SERVING AS A CONSULTANT WITH JASON.

SPENT I'M AN ARCHITECT, AND I HAVE SPENT MY ENTIRE 45 YEARS PLUS DOING NOTHING BUT PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS.

AND I'VE TOUCHED ABOUT 250 PLUS POLICE PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS AND NATIONALLY IN DIFFERENT STUFF FOR PREVIOUSLY.

AND I JUST WORK ON MY OWN AND YEAH, WE'VE DONE.

JASON AND I HAVE DONE GOSH, WE'RE RIGHT. 15 POLICE PROJECTS IN JUST THE PAST FIVE YEARS WITHIN THE GREATER METROPLEX AREA.

WHAT DOES 720 STAND FOR? SO IT'S INTERESTING THAT HAPPINESS.

OH, SORRY. SO MY BOSS IS MY BETTER HALF, AND SHE HAS SPENT HER ENTIRE CAREER DOING LIBRARIES NATIONALLY AND WITHIN STATE.

SHE SHE PUTS ME TO SHAME. SHE'S SETTING UP, I THINK, 350 OR 300 PROJECTS IN HER CAREER.

AND 720 IS THE DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM FOR ARCHITECTURE.

OH, YEAH, I REMEMBER THE CARTEL. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INTERNAL SERVICES.

I'VE BEEN WITH RSM FOR 28 DAYS. ACTUALLY, SATURDAY WOULD BE 28.

CHEERS. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHRIS FREEZE.

I'M THE CHIEF OF POLICE. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR JUST A LITTLE OVER ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF.

I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE. AND LIKE THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER SAID.

AND SARAH SAID, I TRULY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR TIME COMING AND HELPING US THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU.

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WE'RE A CONSULTANT. BUDGET CONTROLS CONSULTANT WILL BE HANDLING A LOT OF THE COST ESTIMATING GETTING INTO THAT.

BUT WE ALSO GET INTO PROCUREMENT TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE EXPERIENCE THROUGH CONSTRUCTION WORKS AS WELL.

WE GET TO DO A LOT OF PROJECT CONTROLS, BUDGET TRACKING, COST TRACKING.

BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE FOCUSED ON THOSE COST ESTIMATES.

SO KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THOSE WHAT IFS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH ALONG THE WAY.

JOSH DAVIS WITH PEAK PROGRAM VALUE. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT SCOTT.

CHRIS. AND WITH ADDISON. I DID THE MOVE HERE FOR MY FIRST JOB OUT OF COLLEGE.

WORKED FOR A COMPANY CALLED SCOTT AND REED. SO DON'T LOOK NOW, BUT GLAD TO BE BACK IN.

TJ SPENCER, I'M ASSISTANT CHIEF OVER THE CIPHER BUREAU.

I'VE WORKED HERE IN ADDISON 13.5 YEARS AND ABOUT 20 YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR TAKING TIME TO DO THOSE INTRODUCTIONS. AND THANKS TO OUR PARTNERS FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. YOU ALL HERE TONIGHT FROM GFW OR PEAK PROGRAM VALUE? OR 720. BUT THEY WILL BE IMPORTANT IN THE UPCOMING MEETINGS, ESPECIALLY THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULE WITH THAT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET

[b. Present and discuss topics related to the purpose and charge of the Bond Advisory Committee, including but not limited to: Purpose and Role of the Committee Tentative Committee Meeting Schedule May 2026 Bond Election Timeline Municipal Debt and Financial Review Challenges of Current Police and Courts Facility, including a Tour]

YEAH. AND COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON SO JUST WANTED TO GO OVER THE PURPOSE AND ROLE OF THE COMMITTEE.

SO, AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THE TOWN HAS BEEN EVALUATING OPTIONS FOR THIS FACILITY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

SO AS COUNCIL HAS BEEN STUDYING AND EXAMINING THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING CALLING A POTENTIAL BOND ELECTION IN MAY OF 2026 TO ASK THE VOTERS IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO AUTHORIZE DEBT FOR THAT CAPITAL PROJECT. WHAT THEY'RE ASKING THE BOND COMMITTEE TO DO IS HELP DECIDE WHAT IS THAT CAPITAL PROJECT GOING TO BE AND WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT SHOULD WE PUT FORWARD TO THE VOTERS IF WE GO TO AN ELECTION? AND IN THE RESOLUTION WHERE COUNCIL CREATED THIS COMMITTEE, THEY SPECIFICALLY ASKED THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THREE OPTIONS THAT ARE LISTED HERE ON THE SCREEN FOR WHAT THIS CAPITAL PROJECT SHOULD BE.

THE FIRST IS ACTUALLY KIND OF TWO OPTIONS IN ONE.

IT'S EITHER REMODEL THIS EXISTING FACILITY OR SCRAPE THE BUILDING AND REBUILD NEW ON THIS SITE.

SO REALLY THAT FIRST OPTION IS LOOKING AT SHOULD SOMETHING REMAIN HERE ON THIS CURRENT SITE AND WHAT FORM WOULD THAT BE? THE SECOND OPTION WOULD BE TO PURCHASE AND REMODEL A VACANT BUILDING.

SO THAT COULD BE A COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE BUILDING THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE IN TOWN THAT WE COULD RETROFIT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE POLICE.

AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE TO CONSTRUCT A NEW BUILDING BASICALLY ON GREENFIELD LAND.

SO TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING WHERE THE LAND IS ALREADY AVAILABLE AND WE COULD JUST CONSTRUCT NEW SO THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING INTO MUCH MORE DETAIL AT THE NEXT MEETING. WE'LL BE GOING OVER VERY CLOSELY WITH THE ARCHITECT AND OUR CONSULTANT, BUT WHAT COULD THOSE OPTIONS LOOK LIKE? WHAT ARE SOME DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS FOR EACH OF THOSE OPTIONS FROM EVERYWHERE? EVERYTHING FROM LAND ACQUISITION TO HOW WOULD THE BUILDING FIT? WHAT WOULD IT ALLOW FOR THE NEEDS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN STUDYING OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS? AND THEN WHAT ARE THE COSTS? SO THERE'LL BE A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSION THROUGH THAT NEXT MEETING.

BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, WE WANTED TO START TONIGHT WITH THE BACKGROUND OF THE COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE FINANCIAL REVIEW FROM STEPHEN.

AND THEN TALKING THROUGH WHAT ARE THE CURRENT CHALLENGES OF THIS BUILDING? AND, CHIEF, WE'LL BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THAT AS WE TAKE A TOUR AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE BACK PART OF THE BUILDING AS WELL.

SO ULTIMATELY, COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT WHAT THIS CAPITAL PROJECT SHOULD BE AND IN WHAT AMOUNT.

AND THAT RECOMMENDATION WILL NEED TO BE APPROVED BY A MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEE.

AND WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT SHOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? AND THE BEST ANSWER I HAVE IS KIND OF UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMITTEE FOR HOW YOU WANT THAT RECOMMENDATION TO BE PHRASED.

IF YOU WANT IT TO END IN A REPORT TO COUNCIL STAFF CAN DEFINITELY HELP YOU DRAFT THAT AS WELL.

BUT IT IS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMITTEE WHEN WE GET TO THAT.

AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TRY TO LAY OUT A 3 TO 4 MEETINGS OF HOW WE COULD ACCOMPLISH THIS WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE.

SO THOSE ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN, AS I MENTIONED, THAT THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 20TH MEETING, WE WOULD REALLY BE GOING INTO A DISCUSSION OF THE

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AND IF YOU'RE READY THAT EVENING, YOU CAN DO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

OR IT'S LIKELY THAT IT MIGHT CARRY OVER INTO A FOURTH MEETING IN EARLY JANUARY.

ON JANUARY 8TH. WE DO NEED A RECOMMENDATION BY EARLY JANUARY.

AND I'LL EXPLAIN ON THE NEXT SLIDE ABOUT WHY THAT TIMELINE IS IMPORTANT.

THIS IS TENTATIVE. SO IF THE COMMITTEE FEELS LIKE YOU NEED TO ADD ANOTHER MEETING IN AND YOUR CALENDARS ARE AVAILABLE, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL. WE'VE JUST TRIED OUR BEST TO OUTLINE SOME DATES AND GET UPSET, AS WELL AS THE TOPICS THAT WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH.

AND SO THIS IS THE BOND ELECTION TIMELINE THAT I JUST REFERENCED.

SO WE WOULD NEED THAT COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION HERE.

AS I MENTIONED BY EARLY JANUARY OF 2026. AND WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT IS IT WOULD GIVE COUNCIL TWO MEETINGS, PROBABLY JANUARY AND EARLY FEBRUARY, TO DISCUSS THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION DISCUSS AND DETERMINE IF THEY, AS A CITY COUNCIL, WOULD LIKE TO CALL A BOND ELECTION FOR MAY OF 2026.

THE DEADLINE TO CALL THAT BOND ELECTION IS FEBRUARY 13TH.

SO THAT'S WHY THAT TIMELINE IS IMPORTANT. AND IF THE ELECTION IS CALLED IT WOULD TAKE PLACE ON THE UNIFORM ELECTION DATE ON MAY 2ND OF 2026.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL STOP AND PAUSE. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMMITTEE, THE TIMELINE, OR THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE OUTLINED. I ALWAYS HAVE QUESTIONS.

SO WHENEVER YOU SAY TO REVIEW INFORMATION AND OPTIONS, IS THAT ONLY THE THE INFORMATION THAT'S PRESENTED TO US THAT WE REVIEW OR IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR BRING ANY IDEAS, DO WE ALSO REVIEW THAT AS WELL? CERTAINLY, IF THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR OPTIONS, YOU COULD REVIEW THAT AS WELL.

SO THAT'S THAT'S UP TO THE COMMITTEE TO DETERMINE IF YOU SAY, HEY, WE BROUGHT YOU THIS OPTION.

WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT MODIFIED. THIS WAY WE CAN BRING IT BACK AT A FUTURE COMMITTEE MEETING.

AND THEN THE COMMITTEE CAN REVIEW THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THE THE ALTERNATIVE SITES WELL, WE KNOW THOSE AHEAD OF TIME.

THE WHAT LAND THE THE TOWN ALREADY OWNS. THAT MAY BE UNDER CONSIDERATION.

AND WHAT OTHER PROPERTIES COULD BE CONSIDERED.

YES. AS WE BROUGHT TO US FOR DISCUSSION, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND FIND THESE.

NO, NO. YEAH. WE WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME. SO WE'LL BRING YOU THOSE OPTIONS ON NOVEMBER 20TH.

AND WE WILL TRY, AS WE'VE DONE WITH THIS LAST MEETING IS TO GET YOU THE AGENDA AND MATERIALS IN ADVANCE SO THAT YOU HAVE SOME TIME TO JUST BROWSE IT.

AND OF COURSE, WE'LL GIVE YOU A LOT MORE INFORMATION DURING THE MEETING.

BECAUSE LIKE I MENTIONED, THERE WILL BE A LOT TO GO THROUGH FOR DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS OF EACH OF THE OPTIONS.

SO GOOD QUESTION. WILL THOSE SITES BE IDENTIFIED IN THE MATERIALS THAT YOU DISTRIBUTE BEFORE THE MEETING? I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE THAT WILL BE EASILY IDENTIFIABLE.

THE COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE BUILDINGS WERE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU EXACTLY THE LOCATION.

YOU MAY KNOW JUST FROM THE LAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BUT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO OBTAIN SOME NEGOTIATING POWER IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OF THIS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO STEPHEN GLICKMAN, OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

AND HE'S GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH A FINANCIAL AND DEBT REVIEW.

ALL THE FUN STUFF. A FINANCIAL AND DEBT REVIEW.

SO SO I'M GOING TO GO OVER SOME HIGH LEVEL INFORMATION ABOUT BONDS, DEBT.

YOU KNOW, WHY WE WOULD DO WHAT WHAT YOU'RE TASKED WITH DOING AND KIND OF GET INTO WHERE WE'RE AT CURRENTLY WITH OUR DEBT PORTFOLIO.

AND WHAT TAX RATE IMPLICATIONS MAY LOOK LIKE.

SO, SO ONE, WHY DO WHY DO CITIES ISSUE DEBT? SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT A PROJECT LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR FACILITY CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A 40.

YOU KNOW, THIS BUILDING IS 40 YEARS OLD NOW. SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE NEW BUILDING WOULD BE ANTICIPATED.

IT'S A 40 YEAR BUILDING. SO IN ORDER TO FIND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FINANCING THOSE SO THAT YOU'RE SPREADING THE COST OUT TO THE FUTURE USERS OF THAT SPACE AS WELL. SO THAT EVERYONE IS PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OVER THE COURSE OF THE USE OF THAT FACILITY.

AND REALISTICALLY, SOMETHING THAT'S SO EXPENSIVE, LIKE A MAJOR FACILITY, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET SOME TYPE OF, SOME TYPE OF FINANCING FOR BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO SAY,

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SO THE OTHER REASON. SO WE GET A TAX ADVANTAGE OUR DEBT IS TAX EXEMPT.

SO WHEN WE GO OUT AND SELL THESE BONDS FOR A PUBLIC PROJECT, IT'S TAX EXEMPT, MEANING THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE INVESTING IN THE TOWN, WHEN THEY GO TO FILE THEIR TAXES, THEY DON'T PAY.

THEY DON'T PAY TAXES ON THE EARNINGS THAT THEY MAKE OFF OF THE TOWN'S BONDS.

SO FOR THAT REASON, WHEN WE SELL OUR BONDS, THEY'RE GETTING A BETTER INTEREST RATE THAN YOU WOULD GET, YOU KNOW, ON SOME OTHER TYPE OF TYPE OF DEBT THAT YOU MAY SEE OUT THERE.

SO WE ALSO DO FUND A LOT OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND ONE TIME PROJECTS WITH CASH FUNDING AND WITH AVAILABLE RESERVES.

BUT WHEN IT'S SOMETHING OF THIS STATURE IT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD LOOK AT TO GO OUT FOR DEBT FOR.

AND THERE'S SOME EXAMPLES OVER TO THE RIGHT OF THINGS THAT WE MAY ISSUE DEBT FOR.

I MEAN, A LOT OF ROADS, ROADS ARE EXPENSIVE. ROADS LAST A LONG TIME.

FACILITIES, WHICH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW PARKS FACILITIES YOUR WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT HAVE A VERY LONG, USEFUL LIFE.

FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE THOSE PROJECTS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

SO WE'RE SPREADING THE COST AND THE AND THE THE IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS OVER TIME AS WELL.

SO BOND RATING. SO WHEN WE GO OUT AND SELL BONDS WE HAVE TO GET A CREDIT RATING.

SO THIS IS BASICALLY THE CREDIT SCORE OF THE CITY.

AND IT'S EXPRESSED AS A GRADE. SO WE GET TWO RATINGS EVERY TIME WE GO OUT AND SELL BONDS.

ONE FOR MOODY'S, ONE FROM S&P. AND THIS BASICALLY TELLS POTENTIAL INVESTORS HOW HOW GOOD IS THE ENTITY THAT I'M INVESTING IN. HOW CREDITWORTHY ARE THEY. ARE THEY GOING TO REPAY ME PLUS INTEREST.

SO WE'RE VERY GOOD. WE ARE TRIPLE A FROM BOTH MOODY'S AND S&P.

SO THAT MEANS THAT WHEN WE GO OUT TO MARKET TO SELL OUR BONDS, THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THE LOWEST POSSIBLE BORROWING COST, BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT DEMONSTRATED ABILITY OF REPAYING THE DEBTS, PAYING ON TIME.

WE HAVE THE FINANCIAL BACKING SO THAT WE CAN, PAY OUR DEBTS IN A STRESS SCENARIO OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO SO THAT MEANS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BE CONFIDENT THAT WHEN WE GO OUT AND SELL OUR BONDS, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GET THE LOWEST POSSIBLE BORROWING COST. SO THE BOND RATING AND THE INTEREST RATE KIND OF HAVE AN INVERSE RELATIONSHIP.

SO THE HIGHER THE BOND RATING, THE LOWER THE INTEREST COST, RIGHT? SO NOW THERE'S NOT A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE GROUP OR THE OTHER.

AND IT'S A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE. BUT WHEN YOU ADD THAT UP OVER MULTIPLE, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS OR, AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OR TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HAVING THAT TRIPLE A BOND RATING COMPARED TO JUST EVEN ONE LEVEL LOWER SAVES THE TOWN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER THE LIFE OF ALL THE DEBT.

SO THAT LEADS US INTO TAX RATE COMPONENTS. SO WHEN WE SELL DEBT, THE MAIN PORTION OF THE TAX RATE THAT IS AFFECTED BY THAT IS CALLED THE INTEREST AND SINKING RATE. SO THAT'S A PORTION OF OUR TAX RATE THAT IS ONLY SET ASIDE TO PAY OFF THE INVESTORS WHO HAVE WHO HAVE INVESTED IN OUR BONDS.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS RATE. AND WE WON'T REALLY GET INTO THAT. BUT THAT'S PAYING FOR THE OPERATIONS OF THE TOWN. YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS THAT WORK IN THESE BUILDINGS THAT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONSTRUCTING.

SO RIGHT NOW OUR OUR TOTAL TAX RATE IS 60.81 CENTS.

IT WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR.

THE INTEREST IN SINKING RATE, WHICH WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS IS CURRENTLY AT 17.5 CENTS.

SO WE'VE HAD TWO FAIRLY RECENT BOND ELECTIONS.

WE HAD ONE BACK IN 2012. AND THIS ONE IS BASICALLY CLOSED OUT.

SO HOPEFULLY NEXT TIME I KEEP SAYING THIS, BUT AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO COMPLETE THE FINAL PROJECT FOR FROM THIS.

AND I WILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE 2012 BOND ELECTION ANYMORE.

BUT WE DO HAVE ONE OUTSTANDING PROJECT FROM 2012, AND THIS WAS RELATED TO LAND ACQUISITION OR A PARKING GARAGE THAT'S SPECIFIC TO THE ADDISON CIRCLE AREA. SO WITH THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, WE PLAN ON USING THE REMAINING $3 MILLION FROM THIS BOND PROPOSITION FOR THAT PROJECT.

BUT MOST OF THIS WAS RELATED TO STREETS. PROPOSITION ONE WAS 29.5 MILLION OF THE TOTAL 55 MILLION.

ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE DONE. BELTLINE UTILITIES, WHICH WAS UNDERGROUNDING OF SOME UTILITIES IS COMPLETE.

AIRPORT LAND ACQUISITION HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THAT PROPOSITION FOR THE THE ARTS AND EVENT LAND THAT'S THE ONE THAT IS STILL OUTSTANDING.

WIRELESS NETWORK AND THEN PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY.

ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR MOST RECENT BOND ELECTION IN 2019.

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SO EAST WEST ROADS, WHICH WAS KELLER SPRINGS ROAD, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN WE HAVE AIRPORT PARKWAY, WHICH HAS BEEN DESIGNED NOT YET UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

SO THOSE BONDS HAVE ALL BEEN SOLD. AND PROJECTS ARE UNDERWAY.

WE HAVE THE NORTH SOUTH ROADS, WHICH ARE QUORUM DRIVE AND MONTFORD DRIVE, BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN CONSTRUCTION, PROBABLY BEGINNING TO START SOMETIME IN 2026.

WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES. OR IF WE MEET THAT TIME TIMELINE.

BUT BONDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ISSUED FOR THOSE PROJECTS.

WE HAVE ATHLETIC CLUB IMPROVEMENTS. THOSE PROJECTS WERE COMPLETED.

WE HAVE BLAYLOCK'S POND IMPROVEMENTS. THOSE ARE NEARING COMPLETION.

IT'S PROBABLY JUST ABOUT DONE HERE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO.

AND SOME TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS CITYWIDE, THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

AND THEN WE HAVE PROPOSITION D, AND THIS WAS IMPROVEMENTS TO REALLY ALL OF OUR EXISTING BUILDINGS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT GO INTO THAT ONE THAT I WOULD SAY IS PROBABLY ABOUT 85 TO 90% COMPLETED.

AND THESE ARE HVAC ROOFS AT ALL OF THE TOWN FACILITIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

MOST OF THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED. ALL OF THESE BONDS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THAT.

AND THEN WE HAVE TRAFFIC CONTROL SYSTEM. THAT PROJECT WAS COMPLETED, AND ALL OF THE BONDS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S A LINK HERE ON THIS SLIDE, IF ANYONE CARES TO LOOK AT OUR PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS RELATED TO THE CIP CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET PROGRAM.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. SO WE REALLY ONLY HAVE $3 MILLION OF BONDS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ISSUED FROM THE LAST TWO BOND ELECTIONS.

EXCUSE ME, I GOT A QUESTION ON CURRENT DEBT. IS THAT'S JUST BONDS OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION? ALL OF THE DEBT. THIS IS ALL OF THE DEBT. YES.

YEP. SO THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING WITH THAT INTEREST AND SINKING PORTION OF THE TAX RATE.

SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS THAT VOTERS APPROVE AND CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL MAY APPROVE THAT ARE NOT FUNDED BY. FOR INSTANCE, IF IT'S A UTILITY, IF IT'S LIKE A UTILITY, THE UTILITY PAYS FOR THAT.

IT'S ONLY LIKE IF WE DID, YOU KNOW, I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE.

WE DID SOME CERTIFICATES FOR MIDWAY ROAD. SINCE THAT'S A ROAD PROJECT THAT'S PAID FOR BY PROPERTY TAXES.

SO DOES THIS MEAN THAT THE CURRENT DEBT LEVEL IS AT 12.5 MILLION SOMEWHERE IN THERE? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PAYING PER YEAR. SO THAT'S THIS IS OUR ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE OVER THE NEXT ALMOST 20 YEARS.

THIS IS ALL OF OUR OUTSTANDING DEBT. YEAH. SO THE BLUE BARS ARE THE PRINCIPAL, THE ORANGE IS THE INTEREST.

SO THE BLUE BARS, I BELIEVE, ARE SLIGHTLY OVER 100 MILLION.

IN TOTAL, I'D HAVE TO I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

BUT, YEAH, IT'S 12 MILLION A YEAR IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT DEBT SERVICE REQUIREMENT.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT INTEREST AND SINKING PORTION OF THE TAX RATE, WHICH WOULD BE AFFECTED BY BY A G.O.

BOND ISSUANCE OR A G.O. BOND PROGRAM THOSE WOULD MAKE THESE NUMBERS RIGHT.

IF WE'RE SELLING NEW DEBT, THOSE THAT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT ON THE BOOKS. SO THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOT ON THE BOOKS.

IDEALLY YOU WANT TO SEE THESE STAIR STEPPING DOWN SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY, HEY, WE CAN DO THESE PROJECTS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY TAX RATE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IN 27 WE HAVE A SLIGHT DECREASE GOING INTO 28, AND THEN WE'RE FLAT FOR A FEW YEARS.

AND THEN IT REALLY ISN'T UNTIL 2032. AND BEYOND THAT WE START TO SEE SOME SIGNIFICANT DECREASES.

SO REALLY THOSE DECREASES MEAN, YOU KNOW, CAPACITY TO DO PROJECTS WITHOUT HAVING A TAX TAX RATE INCREASE.

SO IN LIEU OF THAT WHEN WE HAVE A FLAT COUPLE OF YEARS LIKE THAT, WHEN WE'RE GOING TO SELL BONDS, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME TYPE OF TAX RATE IMPACT TO THAT.

SO I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE HERE IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES.

BUT BACK WHEN WE BACK WHEN WE TALKED TO VOTERS BACK IN 2019, WE GAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW MUCH THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT YOUR PROPERTY TAX RATE.

AND VOTERS WERE TOLD THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU APPROVE THIS $70 MILLION BOND PROGRAM, YOUR TAX RATE IS GOING TO GO UP ABOUT 10.3 CENTS.

SO WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN NOW THAT WE'VE ISSUED THE BONDS AND ALL OF THE DEBT FOR THOSE PROJECTS IS RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT 2026 LINE UP, VOTERS WERE TOLD, YOU KNOW, IN 2026, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 25.7 CENTS FOR YOUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE.

WELL, RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 17.5 CENTS. SO WE'RE ABOUT 8.2 CENTS BELOW WHAT VOTERS WERE TOLD BACK IN.

SHOULD WE WAIT TILL THE END TO ASK QUESTIONS? NO, NO.

OKAY, SHOOT. SO IF THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION AMENDMENTS PASS, LIKE FOR THE ELDERLY, DISCOUNTS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

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YES. THAT ONE ONLY AFFECTS SCHOOL DISTRICTS. OKAY.

THERE IS ONE RELATED TO BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY THAT AFFECTS THE CITY.

YEAH. SO THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE AN IMPACT TO THE CITY.

WE THINK SOMEWHERE, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE NEW TAX ROLL, BUT PROBABLY SOMEWHERE OVER $1 MILLION, SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE OF TAX REDUCTION. SO PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION RELATED FROM THAT, BUT THE ONE RELATED TO EXEMPTIONS FOR ELDERLY FOR HOMESTEAD, THOSE ARE RELATED JUST TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS. OKAY.

SO IF IT WOULD THERE BE AN IMPACT BASED ON THIS ELECTION TO THESE NUMBERS AT ALL OR.

NO. POTENTIALLY, YES. SO IF THERE'S A LOWER TAX BASE, WE STILL.

SO OUR DEBT IS OUR DEBT. SO WE HAVE WHATEVER OUR DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT IS FROM THIS SLIDE.

RIGHT. SO NEXT YEAR WE'RE LOOKING AT TOTAL DEBT SERVICE 13 $13.5 MILLION.

WHEN WE HAVE A LOWER BASE ON THAT IT WOULD INCREASE THE RATE.

YES, ABSOLUTELY. I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS TOO, BUT I DON'T WANT TO ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

OKAY. WAS THAT OKAY OR SHOULD I IS IT OKAY FOR ME TO ASK QUESTIONS.

YOU CAN YOU CAN ASK YOUR QUESTION. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE 2019 THIS ONE.

YES. PROPOSITION D THE BUILDINGS WAS THIS BUILDING INCLUDED INSIDE OF THAT? THERE WERE SOME THINGS RELATED TO THIS BUILDING.

THERE WAS HVAC AND ROOF IMPROVEMENTS. OKAY. BUT EVERYTHING ELSE? NO. OKAY. PRETTY MUCH ALL OF ALL OF WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT PROPOSITION D A GOOD PORTION OF IT WAS THE ATHLETIC CLUB, THE ROOF AND HVAC AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB, AND THEN THE REMAINDER WAS REALLY HVAC ROOF AND ADA IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT TOWN.

SO IT'S REALLY ALL OF THAT MONEY IS REALLY RELATED JUST TO HVAC AND ROOF IMPROVEMENTS.

WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE WE GATHERED ANY, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING FROM A BOND ELECTION FOR THIS BUILDING OTHER THAN CONSTRUCTION? THERE WAS ALSO WITHIN THAT BUILDINGS PART THERE WAS FOR THE FOR THE GUN RANGE, FOR THE AIR FILTRATION SYSTEM AT THE GUN RANGE.

A PORTION OF THAT WAS SPECIFIC FOR IT. BUT AS FAR AS AS A SPECIFIC RELATED TO THIS BUILDING, ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, PATCHING STUFF UP AND THINGS.

WELL, THIS WAS AN HVAC REPLACEMENT AND A ROOF REPLACEMENT.

SO THAT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THING I'D HAVE TO GO LOOK. NOTHING FROM 2012.

THE PREVIOUS BOND ELECTION WAS 2000, SO I'D HAVE TO GO LOOK AT THAT.

NO. THAT'S FINE. I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW LONG THAT WAS.

YEAH, OKAY, I REMEMBER IT. OKAY. SO GOING BACK BACK TO OUR TAX RATE IMPACT.

SO AS I MENTIONED RIGHT NOW WE'RE WE'RE AT ABOUT 8.2 CENTS BELOW WHAT VOTERS WERE TOLD BACK IN 2019.

SO I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IN 2020 THERE WAS A BIG EVENT THAT AFFECTED INTEREST RATES AND, AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

SO THAT HAD SOME POSITIVE EFFECT ON THE BONDS THAT WE SOLD BEING SOLD AT A LOWER INTEREST RATE THAN WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED BACK IN 2019.

AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. WHEN WE GET TO THE OVERALL, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENCE THAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE FROM THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM WE DO HAVE SOME MORE BONDS COMING ON THIS FISCAL YEAR AND NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

BUT WE THINK WILL BE ABOUT 6.8 CENTS BELOW WHAT VOTERS WERE TOLD IN 2019.

SO REALLY, VOTERS WERE TOLD AT 10.33 CENT TAX INCREASE IT'S ESSENTIALLY GOING TO BE DONE FOR A 3.5 CENT TAX INCREASE RATHER THAN 10.3. SO PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS RELATED TO THE LATEST BOND PROGRAM.

SO HERE I HAVE SOME TAX RATE HISTORY. WE HAVE THE TOP BAR IS THE TOTAL TAX RATE.

THE BLUE BAR IS OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE.

AND THEN THE THE BOTTOM BAR, THE ORANGE BAR. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PAYING ON DEBT SERVICE.

SO YOU CAN SEE, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HAD OUR 2019 BOND PROGRAM BEING IMPLEMENTED, WE HAVEN'T SEEN A LARGE SPIKE AS WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED WHEN VOTERS APPROVED THAT BACK IN 2019. SO WE'VE REALLY ONLY GONE UP FROM, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY 14.3 CENTS TO NOW WE'RE AT 17.5.

SO, SO NOT THAT BIG OF AN INCREASE COMPARATIVELY.

SO THIS IS A HISTORY OF OUR TAX RATE. AND THEN GOING FORWARD, LET'S SAY WE'VE GOT A PROJECTION OF OUR INTEREST AND SINKING TAX RATE.

YOU KNOW, IF A $50 MILLION POLICE BOND WERE APPROVED.

AND THAT'S JUST HYPOTHETICAL. YES, SIR. THE PREVIOUS SLIDE YOU HAD.

OH. RIGHT. ALSO TO SO YOU CAME UP WITH THE TOTAL TAX RATE.

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THIS ONE. YEAH. THIS ONE IS JUST WHY AREN'T YOU DOING ALL THE TAX.

SO FOR THIS PURPOSE, FOR THE BOND, IT THE, THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE WON'T BE AFFECTED.

SO THIS IS JUST PROJECTING IF WE SELL BONDS AND WE HAVE TO PAY THE DEBT SERVICE PORTION OF THAT TAX RATE, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT INCREASE? THE OVERALL TAX RATE IS FAIRLY IMPORTANT.

YEAH I AGREE. YEAH. IT WOULD YOU KNOW IT WOULD IT WOULD INCREASE THE THE DIFFERENCE IN THESE TWO AMOUNTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE ON THE CURRENT ESTIMATE.

AND THEN IF WE HAD A BOND. SO ESSENTIALLY THE OVERALL TAX RATE, I MEAN, OVERALL TAX RATE, INTEREST AND SINKING RATE BOTH WOULD INCREASE BY ABOUT 5.6 CENTS IF THERE WAS A $50 MILLION BOND ISSUANCE.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT FOR EVERY ABOUT $10 MILLION IN PROJECT COSTS, SO WHATEVER THE COMMITTEE COMMITTEE COMES UP WITH, WHATEVER THE COUNCIL APPROVES AND ULTIMATELY WHAT VOTERS APPROVE.

YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S $40 MILLION OR $60 MILLION, WHATEVER, THAT $10 MILLION INCREMENT WOULD IMPACT THE TAX RATE DOWN BY ABOUT 1.1 CENTS.

SO YOU THINK OF IT AS IN THOSE TYPES OF TERMS, EVERY $10 MILLION THAT WE'RE ASKING VOTERS FOR APPROVAL FOR WE'RE ESSENTIALLY ASKING FOR A 1.1 CENT TAX INCREASE. SO THAT IS THE TOTAL TAX RATE.

YEAH. AGAIN, I JUST THINK THE OVERALL TAX RATE IS IS QUITE IMPORTANT WHEN WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO EVER GET TO THAT POINT WHERE WE'RE DISCOURAGING INVESTMENT IN THAT TOWN. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING WHY IT WASN'T THE TOTAL TAX.

OKAY. YEAH, I CAN I CAN INCLUDE THAT IN HERE.

BUT AS FAR AS THE TOTAL TAX RATE, WE DON'T HAVE PROJECTIONS YET FOR THE OPERATION SIDE OF THE TAX RATE.

I CAN COME UP WITH PROJECTIONS FOR THAT, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT WOULD BE A FLAT LINE.

RIGHT NOW IT'S A DIFFICULT THING TO DO. YEAH, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW.

THERE'S MULTIPLE VARIABLES. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT PROPERTY VALUES ARE THAT TYPE OF THING.

SO OUR TRIPLE A RATING THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE DEBT WE HAVE NOW.

IT DOES. OKAY, SO IF WE WENT UP 50 MILLION, DOES THAT TRIPLE A DO YOU FORECAST IT'LL STAY TRIPLE A YES.

HOW FAR UP WOULD YOU GO THAT WOULD JEOPARDIZE TRIPLE A.

YOU KNOW, THE CAPACITY THAT CITIES OR SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE TO ISSUE DEBT IS VERY HIGH, AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT THE RATING AGENCIES CONSIDER, NOT JUST YOUR DIRECT DEBT. YOU KNOW, THE THE DIRECT DEBT THAT'S AROUND US, THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH US, ALL THE DISTRICTS THAT YOU MAY BE, YOU KNOW, IF, YOU KNOW, PARKLAND HOSPITAL SELLS BONDS, THAT AFFECTS OUR BOND OUTLOOK YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, BUT ALSO PENSION OBLIGATIONS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WHICH WE DON'T HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PENSION OBLIGATION, LIKE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, OTHER STATES OTHER CITIES THAT ARE RUNNING THEIR OWN PENSION PROGRAM, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, THEY CAN NEGATIVELY AFFECT YOUR BOND RATING. SO, SO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ALL GO INTO, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GOING TO KEEP OR MAINTAIN THAT BOND RATING.

ALSO THE ECONOMIC OUTLOOK. OURS HAS BEEN VERY GOOD.

WE'VE HAD CONSISTENT BUDGETARY PERFORMANCE, MEANING THAT OUR REVENUES EXCEED WHAT WE'RE BUDGETING.

OUR EXPENDITURES COME IN BELOW WHAT WE'RE BUDGETING.

SO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ALL PLAY INTO THAT. SO SO THIS JUST ON ITS OWN WOULD NOT BE A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO A FUTURE BOND RATING. STEPHEN, CAN YOU REMIND US HOW LONG WE'VE HAD THIS RATING HERE IN ADDISON AND HOW WE COMPARE TO OTHER STATES, OR, EXCUSE ME, OTHER TOWNS IN THE STATE? I BELIEVE MOODY'S WAS 2018.

SO THEY'RE THE NEWEST ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN AA S&P HAS.

I'D HAVE TO GO LOOK THAT ONE UP. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME WITH S&P.

AND THEN WE ARE ONE OF I BELIEVE 12 NOW CITIES IN THE STATE THAT ARE TRIPLE A IN BOTH A LOT OF THOSE ARE IN THIS GENERAL AREA, BUT THERE'S SOME THAT ARE IN OTHER AREAS OF THE STATE. SO OUT OF 700, I THINK 700 AND SOME ODD CITIES, I GUESS IN THE STATE. SO SO, WELL, I KNOW IT'S A, I KNOW IT'S AN IMPRESSIVE NUMBER.

AND COUNCILS IN THE PAST HAVE, HAVE WORKED HARD TO MAINTAIN A STAND.

STAFF HAVE WORKED HARD TO MAINTAIN THOSE RATINGS.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO US. SAVES US A LOT OF MONEY.

AMEN. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO I'M GOING TO PASS IT ON TO CHIEF FREEZE AND BILL HOLLY.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY HAS ABOUT ANYTHING RELATED TO WHAT I JUST PRESENTED.

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SO THIS IS ESTIMATE FROM 2012. IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE? THE ONE FROM 2012? YES. SO YOU ESTIMATED COST FOR THAT BOND BACK IN 2012? WE KNOW THAT PRICE COST HAS CHANGED. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU EXECUTE THAT BOND? IT'S NOT 2 MILLION OR 3 MILLION TO 4 MILLION.

5 MILLION. YOU MEAN YOU MEAN AS FAR AS THE PROJECT AS FAR AS THE PROJECT? YEAH. WE YOU KNOW AND WE'VE HAD THAT THAT HAPPEN.

I MEAN, WE'LL COME UP WITH SOME OTHER FUNDING SOURCE THAT COULD BE CASH OR OR SOME SOMEWHERE ELSE.

WE'LL SUPPLEMENT IT SOMEWHERE. YEAH. I KNOW, AND THE 3 MILLION IS ONLY FOR A PARKING GARAGE IN THE.

IT WAS LAND ACQUISITION OR A PARKING GARAGE. AND IT IS SPECIFIC TO THAT IT'S CALLED THE ADDISON ARTS AND EVENTS DISTRICT, WHICH IS ADDISON CIRCLE. SO IT IS SPECIFIC. SO WE COULDN'T GO TO SAY YOU KNOW, THE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TOLLWAY AND BUILD A PARKING GARAGE.

IT HAS TO BE IN THAT GENERAL AREA. SO IT WAS FOR JUST THE LAND, NOT THE CONSTRUCTION, JUST THE LAND.

NO, IT COULD BE CONSTRUCTION AS WELL. OH, OKAY.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. GREAT. LAST QUESTION. YES, SIR.

SO IF A BOND ELECTION PASSES, YOU CAN'T DESIGNATE THAT MONEY TO ANYTHING ELSE OR MOVE ANYTHING AROUND AFTER ELECTION.

YEAH. SO KIND OF THE WAY IT WORKS. AND I MEAN, GENERALLY YOU MAKE THE, THE LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT YOU KNOW, NOT TIED TO ONE A LITTLE BIT FLEXIBLE, NOT TIED TO LIKE A SPECIFIC PROJECT.

SO THE LANGUAGE WOULD, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT THE BOND ATTORNEY, BUT IT'LL PROBABLY BE SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, X NUMBER OF DOLLARS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES.

BUT IT CAN BE AS SPECIFIC AS YOU WANT TO MAKE IT.

SO I'VE HAD ONES THAT HAVE BEEN SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC TO A POLICE STATION IN THIS AREA.

SO WHEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE THAT, IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO GET IT OFF THE GROUND BECAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH WITH SOME OTHER CONSTRAINTS.

SO GENERALLY, LIKE WHEN WE DO A STREET BOND, IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSITION WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, X NUMBER OF DOLLARS FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, ETC..

STORM, STORM DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. SO IT'S NOT TYING US TO THIS ONE SPECIFIC.

SO COULD I MAKE THAT STIPULATION OR IS THAT SOMEBODY SOME OTHER PART? WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM AS FAR AS MAKING THE STIPULATION AS FAR AS WHAT YOU WANT TO NIP ON THIS POLICE STATION.

BLAH BLAH BLAH. YEAH. I THINK YOU COULD MAKE THAT.

ULTIMATELY, THE THE BOND ATTORNEY IS GOING TO RECOMMEND A LANGUAGE THAT'S GOING TO GO TO VOTERS.

SO IT'S GOT TO BE, YOU KNOW, HOW WERE THEY WORDSMITH IT.

SO AS LONG IT'S JUST GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT FITS WITHIN THEIR CONSTRAINTS.

NOW THEY'LL TELL YOU IF YOU SAY, WE WANT TO BUILD A IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT TOO SPECIFIC, THEY'LL TRY TO STEER YOU AWAY AWAY FROM THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH THAT'S GOING TO BE KNOWN AT THAT POINT. BUT YOU COULD SAY SPECIFIC TO A POLICE STATION FOR, YOU KNOW, X NUMBER OF DOLLARS, IT COULD BE SPECIFIC TO THE POLICE AND NOT JUST, SAY, PUBLIC SAFETY OR SATISFY THAT.

TIMELINE ASSIGNED TO THAT BOND PROPOSAL OR WHEN THE VOTERS PASS IT.

I MEAN, IF FOR SOME REASONS YOU CAN'T BUILD IT FOR TWO YEARS IS THAT FUNDING STAY IN PLACE? SO THE AUTHORIZATION IS THERE. SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING VOTERS FOR IS AUTHORIZATION.

SO WHEN YOU ASK THE VOTERS TO APPROVE SOMETHING, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY AUTHORIZING YOU TO DO IT.

AND THEN THE TIMELINE OF WHEN THE PROJECT ACTUALLY GETS CONSTRUCTED THAT REALLY HAPPENS AT, YOU KNOW, STAFF AND THEN CITY COUNCIL LEVEL. SO FOR INSTANCE, IF WE DO HAVE A PROJECT LIKE THE PARKING GARAGE AT THE TOD THAT THAT HAS BEEN DELAYED OR HASN'T HAPPENED YET AND WE HAD BONDS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY APPROVED FOR AN AREA OVER THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE AUTHORIZATION FROM VOTERS.

SO WE'RE REALLY WAITING FOR THAT PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MOVE ON THAT. SO SO THE AUTHORIZATION DOES ELAPSE.

IT'S REALLY WE HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION, AND THEN IT'S UP TO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THE PROJECT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE COMPLETED.

SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT OUR DEBT ON ANYTHING ELSE, DOESN'T AFFECT OUR DEBT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY GO OUT AND SELL THE BONDS.

SO WHEN VOTERS APPROVE THE BONDS, THEY'RE JUST GIVING, AGAIN, GIVING US JUST AUTHORIZATION.

WE'LL SELL THEM WHEN WE'RE READY TO DO THE PROJECT.

AND I TRY TO NOT SELL THEM BEFORE WE'RE READY TO DO THE PROJECT.

SO. SO EVEN IF YOU HAVE. LIKE THE OTHER PROPOSITIONS YOU HAD, THEY WERE STAGGERED.

SO YOU WOULD SELL LIMIT SOME SET OF BONDS AND THEN SOME PART OF THE BONDS OR THE OWN TARIFF THING.

YEAH, WE'VE SOLD GENERALLY WE'VE SOLD EVERY YEAR.

AND SO WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN EACH YEAR.

SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THOSE FROM THE LAST BOND PROGRAM WERE RELATED TO PUBLIC WORKS ROAD PROJECTS.

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SO WHEN THEY'RE READY TO START DESIGN, RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO SELL BONDS SO THAT THEY HAVE THE FUNDING FOR THAT NEXT YEAR TO, TO COMPLETE THOSE THAT THAT PORTION. AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE READY FOR CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SELLING BONDS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AMOUNT.

THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR TAX RATE CHANGE BASED ON THE TIME YOU SELL THE BOND.

YES. SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE VARIABLE. YES. YES.

SO I DON'T WANT TO GO OUT AND SELL THE FULL AMOUNT.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE GOT 70,000,000 IN 2019. I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO OUT AND DUMP $70 MILLION OUT ALL AT ONCE.

AND THEN HAVE THE TAX RATE SPIKE IN ONE YEAR.

AND THAT KIND OF THING. ALSO, BECAUSE WE SELL TAX EXEMPT BONDS, THERE'S IRS REGULATIONS ON HOW QUICKLY WE NEED TO SPEND THEM.

THEY DON'T WANT US HOLDING THOSE BOND PROCEEDS AND MAKING MONEY OFF OF THEM.

IN FACT, WE CAN'T MAKE MONEY OFF OF OF THE BOND PROCEEDS.

WE CAN MAKE ONLY WHAT WE'RE PAYING IN INTEREST, BASICALLY, AS FAR AS INTEREST EARNINGS.

SO REALLY, THEY WANT YOU TO SPEND THAT MONEY WITHIN THREE YEARS IS REALLY A GOOD RULE OF THUMB.

SO WE TRY TO HOLD OFF ON ISSUING THE ACTUAL BONDS UNTIL WE'RE READY TO, TO, TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT.

SO IF YOU APPROVE THE 50 MILLION AND THE ACTUAL COST COMES OUT AT 60 MILLION.

WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? YEAH. DAVID, DO YOU WANT TO TALK TO.

YOU. IT'LL BE A POLICY DECISION TO SAY GO TO THE CASINO.

YOU KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO JUST SIT BACK THERE. I'M NOT SAYING HE'S ON THE EDGE OF THIS.

THAT WAS A. AND I THINK IT GOES TO YOUR QUESTION EARLIER.

SO IN 2012 AND WITH PROJECTS FOR ALL MUNICIPALITIES OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS WITH INFLATION, WE'VE SEEN THAT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE WHERE YOU SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS STREET.

IT'S 20 MILLION AND IT COMES IN AT 35 MILLION.

SO AND THIS GOES TO SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS TOO.

ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS PROCESS IS VERY NARROW. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE PROJECT FOR FOR A FACILITY.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS YOU GOT INTRODUCED TO EVERYBODY.

NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE OUR TEAM WORKING ON DESIGN, WORKING ON THOSE OPTIONS, WE ALSO BROUGHT ANOTHER TEAM IN TO DO TO REVIEW THE COST AND DO A CHECK ON THAT AND SAY, WELL, HOW ARE THESE COSTS REALISTIC? REALISTIC. SO WE'RE NOT RELYING ON ONE COST ESTIMATOR.

WE REALLY HAVE TWO COST ESTIMATORS TO TRY TO GET AS PRECISE AS POSSIBLE FOR TWO REASONS.

ONE, BECAUSE AS YOU ALL ARE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, AND COUNCIL IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PUBLIC, AND ULTIMATELY, IF THE PUBLIC VOTES ON IT, THEY NEED TO BE VOTING ON THE TRUE NUMBER.

YOU DO NOT. WE DO NOT WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE SAYING IT'S 50 MILLION AND THEN IT COMES IN AT 16 MILLION, SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING OVER 30 MILLION, 40 MILLION, WHATEVER THE AMOUNT IS.

SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO CHECK THOSE NUMBERS SO THAT THE NUMBERS YOU SEE ARE THE BEST POSSIBLE NUMBERS WITH AS MUCH CONTINGENCY, INFLATION, ALL THE VARIABLES THAT THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE INCLUDED.

SO THAT'S OUR GOAL AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. TO SPECIFICALLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF IT CAME IN AT 10 MILLION, IT DEPENDS ON THE TIME. SAY WE KNEW IT BEFORE THE PROJECT STARTED.

THAT WOULD BE A POLICY CONVERSATION FOR COUNCIL TO SAY, DO WE WANT TO CHANGE THINGS? DO WE REDUCE THE SCOPE? DO WE CHANGE THE TYPE OF THE PROJECT? IF IT WAS MID-PROJECT. YOU COULD STILL TRY TO DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS IF COUNCIL DECIDED, HEY, WE WANT TO WE WANT TO EXECUTE THIS PROJECT REGARDLESS OF THE COST.

REGARDLESS, OBVIOUSLY DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT, THEN YOU WOULD GO AND GET ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND THAT WOULD LIKELY BE THROUGH A CO ISSUANCE OR FINDING OTHER REVENUE SOURCES THROUGH OUR FUND BALANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO WITH MIDWAY, WHAT WE DID WAS ISSUE ADDITIONAL CEOS TO MAKE UP THAT GAP THAT WE HAD ON MIDWAY.

IF THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION, THAT WAS NICE.

OKAY, PERFECT. AND I WAS GOING TO WHEN I WAS SITTING BACK THERE AND I HAD OTHER THOUGHTS AS WELL.

SO ON THE THE LANGUAGE OF THE PROPOSITION TYPICALLY IN STEVENS.

RIGHT, WHEN YOU SAY, SAY YOU HAD A PROPERTY, YOU HAD A BOND ELECTION WITH SIX STREET PROJECTS.

AND I WHEN HE WAS SAYING FLEXIBILITY, THAT COULD BE YOU SAY, HERE WE HAVE A BOND, WE HAVE A BOND PROPOSITION FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS.

AND MAYBE ONE PROJECT COMES IN 3 MILLION UNDER THE OTHER ONES, 2 MILLION OVER.

SO YOU HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE. THE LANGUAGE FOR THIS BOND PROPOSITION IS GOING TO BE VERY SPECIFIC.

IT WILL BE FOR A POLICE BILL. I MEAN, WE'LL SEE.

THE BOND COUNCIL IS GOING TO HELP US COME UP WITH LANGUAGE, BUT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE FLEXIBILITY FOR IT TO BE USED ON ANOTHER BUILDING.

IT WILL BE FOR A POLICE BUILDING. SO THAT AGAIN, BY THE NATURE OF THIS GROUP AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, IT JUST WE WON'T HAVE THAT AS MUCH OF A CONCERN.

I WILL STEP BACK. I WILL STEP BACK TO. GOOD EVENING.

AS I SAID BEFORE, MY NAME IS CHRIS FREEZE. I'M THE CHIEF OF POLICE.

MYSELF AND BILL HOLLY WILL BE GOING OVER THE NEXT PART OF THE PRESENTATION WHERE ESSENTIALLY,

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ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH THE TOUR. I'M WANTING TO START OFF BY JUST PROVIDING YOU ALL OUR MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE EDISON POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS THE EDISON POLICE DEPARTMENT, IS DEDICATED TO A STANDARD OF EXCELLENCE FOR PROMOTING AND MAINTAINING A SAFE AND PEACEFUL COMMUNITY. WE SERVE IN A COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP TO PRESERVE ORDER, PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY, ENFORCE LAWS AND ORDINANCES, AND SAFEGUARD INDIVIDUAL LIBERTIES.

WE CONDUCT OURSELVES ACCORDING TO THE HIGHEST ETHICAL STANDARDS AND TREAT OTHERS WITH FAIRNESS, DIGNITY AND RESPECT.

WE PLEDGE TO MANAGE OUR ORGANIZATION WITH PROFESSIONALISM, LEADERSHIP AND INTEGRITY.

THIS IS A OUR CURRENT ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. JUST THE STRUCTURAL OVERVIEW.

AS YOU ALREADY MET ONE OF THE ASSISTANT CHIEFS EARLIER, ASSISTANT CHIEF SMETZER, HE IS OVER OUR SUPPORT BUREAU.

ASSISTANT CHIEF MIKE VINCENT IS OVER OUR OPERATIONS BUREAU.

EVERYTHING IS KIND OF SEGMENTED IN THOSE TWO SECTIONS.

UNDER THERE. WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS RECORDS.

OUR CID. YOU MET LIEUTENANT POTTS EARLIER? AND THEN PATROL, WHICH ENCOMPASSES K-9 TRAFFIC AND ALL OF OUR OTHER OPERATIONS.

WE ALSO HAVE NINE PROFESSIONAL STAFF MEMBERS THAT WORK WITHIN CID, THE INVESTIGATION DIVISION OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND CRIME ANALYSTS WE SHARE A DISPATCH CENTER WITH INTEC, WHICH IS STATIONED IN CARROLLTON.

WE SHARE THAT RESOURCE WITH THE CITIES OF FARMERS BRANCH, CARROLLTON AND COPPELL AND OUR JAIL SERVICES.

AS OF OCTOBER 1ST, WE'VE TRANSITIONED TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON WHICH HAS BEEN A VERY, VERY GOOD PARTNERSHIP AND SOMETHING WE LOOK TO CONTINUE FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS IN THE FUTURE. SO AN OVERVIEW OF THE CURRENT FACILITY THE FACILITY IS BUILT IN 1984.

I WAS LOOKING THROUGH OLD ANNUAL REPORTS, AND I FOUND A REPORT FROM CHIEF SULLIVAN IN 1981 THAT STATED THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING WAS MOVING ALONG.

SO CONSTRUCTION STARTED ABOUT 1981 AROUND. I THINK YOU SPOKE TO THAT EARLIER WITH THE COMPLETION BEING IN 1984, TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 29,000FT².

IT IS CURRENTLY LOCATED ON AIRPORT PROPERTY. SOME CHALLENGES WITH THAT.

LIKELY WILL NEED FAA APPROVAL FOR ANY DEMOLITION OR REBUILDING.

AND THEY'LL ALSO LIKELY BE A COST FOR THE EXISTING LAND THAT WE CURRENTLY OCCUPY.

CURRENTLY WE ARE STAFFED AT 75 FTES. THAT'S FULL TIME EMPLOYEES.

THAT IS 66 SWORN OFFICERS. WHEN WE SAY SWORN OFFICERS, THAT'S LICENSED PEACE OFFICERS BADGE AND A GUN UNIFORM.

DETECTIVES, THOSE ARE SWORN OFFICERS. THE REST ARE PROFESSIONAL STAFF.

LIKE I STATED EARLIER, DEPARTMENT ASSISTANTS, CRIME ANALYSTS RECORDS MANAGEMENT CLERKS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

JUST ALSO AS A SIDE NOTE, WITHIN THAT 1981 ANNUAL REPORT THAT I FOUND AT THAT TIME, IN 1981, THE DEPARTMENT WAS STAFFED WITH 32 SWORN OFFICERS.

SO WE'VE ESSENTIALLY DOUBLED SINCE THE CONCEPTION OF THIS BUILDING.

SO I JUST WANTED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. AS WE WALK THROUGH THE TOUR, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE OPERATIONAL CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE NOW WITH JUST NOT HAVING SPACE. WE'RE PROBLEM SOLVERS. WE MAKE THINGS WORK.

BUT AS YOU WALK THROUGH, YOU'LL KIND OF SEE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE TO CONTINUE TO ACCOMPLISH OUR MISSION TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY WITH THE HIGHEST STANDARDS THAT THE TOWN REQUIRES. SO JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW. THE FIRST FLOOR, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE NOW ENCOMPASSES THE LOBBY.

AND THEN FOR POLICE, THAT IS OUR OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT.

IT'S GOT PATROL CID, WHICH IS THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION, INTERVIEW ROOM, PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE OLD JAIL. QUARTERMASTER.

OUR LOCKER ROOMS, THE SALLY PORT, WHICH IS WHERE WE HAVE STORAGE RIGHT NOW.

FITNESS ROOM, FIRING RANGE, ALSO THE COURTS, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE IN THE COURTROOM NOW.

AND THE WALK UP WINDOW FOR RECORDS. THE SECOND, I'M SORRY, IN THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 30 23,000 SQUARE FOOT.

THE SECOND FLOOR IS ADMINISTRATION SUPPORT BUREAU AND A CONFERENCE ROOM, AND THAT IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 6000FT².

WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A TOUR HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, WE'RE JUST GOING TO OUTLINE SOME CHALLENGES AND NEEDS. JUST SO YOU HAVE A FRAME OF REFERENCE WHERE WE WALK THROUGH THE BIG THINGS WE'RE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT FOR THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS AND EFFICIENCY, INFRASTRUCTURE DETERIORATION AND SAFETY AND COMPLIANCE.

I'LL START IT OFF, AND THEN BILL CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES THAT WE HAD AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR THOSE.

THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IF ANYBODY THAT'S HEARD THIS IS JUST THE LACK OF SPACE THAT WE HAVE.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TOUR OFFICE SPACE.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE'RE VERY RESOURCEFUL PEOPLE.

WE HAVE OFFICERS AND PROFESSIONAL STAFF OFFICING OUT OF CLOSETS.

WE'VE TAKEN ROOMS THAT WERE MEANT FOR A CERTAIN BRIEFING PURPOSE, AND WE'VE ADDED CUBICLES SO WE CAN HAVE EMPLOYEES HAVE A WORKSTATION, LACK OF STORAGE. WE'LL WALK THROUGH OUR PROPERTY ROOM TO SEE WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO STORE ALL OF OUR SENSITIVE ITEMS. WE'LL WALK THROUGH THE LOCKER ROOMS WHERE OUR OFFICERS JUST DON'T HAVE THE SPACE TO STORE THEIR NEEDED EQUIPMENT.

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JUST LOOKING AT SECURITY. OUR LOBBY IS OPEN 24 SEVEN.

AND SO WHAT? THAT PRESENTS SOME CHALLENGES. THERE'S NO WAY AFTER HOURS TO KIND OF GET PEOPLE FROM WALKING FURTHER INTO THE FACILITY.

A LOT OF AGENCIES NOW WILL HAVE A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN'T YOU HAVE LIMITED ACCESS AND THAT'S FOR SECURITY TO WHERE THEY CAN STILL CALL DISPATCH, THEY CAN STILL CALL AN OFFICER. BUT THE ENTIRE LOBBY IS NOT CURRENTLY.

RIGHT NOW, THIS ENTIRE LOBBY IS OPEN 24 HOURS A DAY.

ALSO, JUST THE DESIGN. IF YOU WALK UP THE FIRST WINDOW YOU SEE IS FOR COURTS.

AND MOST PEOPLE COMING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE TRYING TO FIND POLICE. SO THERE'S JUST SOME CONFUSION.

WHENEVER YOU WALK INTO THE BUILDING FROM THE ONSET WE DON'T HAVE A CRIME LAB.

CURRENTLY, WE LOOK AT FORENSIC EVIDENCE IN OUR JAILS OR THE OLD JAIL CELL SO WE CAN WALK THROUGH AND GET TO SEE THAT THEN OUR EMPLOYEE AREAS, OR LACK THEREOF. WE HAVE A BREAK ROOM ON THE FIRST FLOOR FOR OUR OFFICERS.

IT IS VERY, VERY SMALL. YOU ONLY FIT MAYBE 3 OR 4 PEOPLE IN THERE AT A TIME.

THERE'S JUST NO SPACE FOR OUR OFFICERS TO SIT, TO MEET, TO DECONFLICT AND JUST HAVE THOSE IMPROMPTU CONVERSATIONS, WHICH IS VERY MUCH NEEDED FOR FOR GOOD COLLABORATION.

WE DON'T HAVE A TRAINING SPACE. THE ROOM THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY IN IS ONE THAT WE TRY TO DOUBLE WHENEVER IT'S NOT IN SESSION.

WE DO OUR DEFENSIVE TACTICS. WE HAVE LARGE MEETINGS.

THIS IS THE THE MEETING SPACE. WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE A SPACE TO WHERE ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES CAN GET TOGETHER, AND I CAN MEET WITH THEM, AND WE CAN TALK JUST GOALS AND MISSIONS OF HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE DON'T HAVE SEPARATION BETWEEN POLICE AND COURTS WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR OUR SECURITY PURPOSES, WHICH IS SEIZURES AND THEN COURTROOM OFFICES.

THERE'S NO PLACE TO STORE EXTRA TABLES. I THINK TJ DID A GREAT JOB CLEANING THESE OFF, BUT THEY WERE STORED IN A SHED IN THE PARKING LOT.

WE WE BROUGHT IN FOR THIS PURPOSE. AND AGAIN, AS YOU'LL SEE, JUST THROUGHOUT THE TOUR, IT'S JUST A LACK OF SPACE, LIKE I SAID, 1981. THE BUILDING WAS WAS BUILT TO BE OPERATIONAL INTO THE 90S.

AND NOW HERE WE ARE IN 2025. SO JUST SOME ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT STUFF LIKE GET BILL HALEY, DIRECTOR OF GENERAL SERVICES, WHICH IS THE, THE BUILDINGS. SO THE HVAC SYSTEM, WHICH STEPHEN POINTED OUT IN THE 2019 BOND ELECTION, THERE WAS FUNDING TO REPLACE THE ROOF AND THE HVAC SYSTEM. NOW, THAT WAS A PARTIAL REPLACEMENT OF THE HVAC SYSTEM.

SO THE MAJOR UNITS UP TOP WERE REPLACED. BUT ALL OF THE DUCTWORK AND THE CONTROL VALVES AND THINGS THAT ARE IN THE BUILDING THAT DIRECT THAT AIR, THAT IDENTIFY THE TEMPERATURES AND THINGS ARE BACK TO 1984, OR REPAIRS THAT WERE MADE IN, IN SOME TIME IN BETWEEN. AND AS CHIEF MENTIONED, AS YOU PACK MORE PEOPLE IN, AS YOU PUT PEOPLE INTO SPACES THAT WERE NEVER INTENDED TO BE ROOMS, YOU HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME TRYING TO ACHIEVE COMFORTABLE TEMPERATURES FOR THE PEOPLE IN THERE.

SO THERE'S AN AREA WHERE THE MOTORCYCLE OFFICERS WHO ARE OUT IN THE SUMMER WEARING POUNDS AND POUNDS OF GEAR AND BULLETPROOF VESTS, AND IT'S 100 DEGREES OUTSIDE AND THEY'RE TRYING TO COME IN AND COOL OFF, BUT THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO FOLKS THAT ARE IN AN OFFICE SETTING THAT ARE WHEN IT'S 74 DEGREES. THEY'RE THEY'RE COOL BECAUSE THEY'RE SITTING AT A COMPUTER ALL DAY AND TRYING TO MAKE BOTH PEOPLE COMFORTABLE WITH THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE BUILDING.

YES, THE SYSTEM WILL PUMP COLD AIR INTO THE BUILDING OR WARM AIR IN THE WINTERTIME, BUT IT DOES NOT DO A GOOD JOB OF GETTING THAT AIR IN THE RIGHT TEMPERATURES TO TO THE RIGHT PLACES.

THERE'S ALSO SOME CHALLENGES JUST WITH, WITH THE EFFICIENCY OF WORKING ON THESE OLDER COMPONENTS OF THE SYSTEM, WE CAN'T FIND PARTS, AND THEN IT'S MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE AND DIFFICULT WHEN THEY DO NEED REPAIRS FOR US TO MAKE THOSE.

MR. WHITEHEAD MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT SOME CONCERNS GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION, AND THIS IS REALLY ONE OF THE LARGEST ONES IN IN MY MIND IS WHEN THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT.

IT USUALLY IF YOU SEE THE FOUNDATION OF YOUR HOME, YOU'LL SEE PART OF THAT FOUNDATION AND THEN YOUR BRICKS BEGIN WHEN THIS ONE WAS BUILT.

THE DIRT IS ACTUALLY OVER THE FOUNDATION AND UP AGAINST THE BRICKS WHICH YOUR WALLS ARE MEANT TO BREATHE.

WATER IS HOT, OUTSIDE IS COLD INSIDE. YOU GET CONDENSATION JUST LIKE ON YOUR TEA GLASS.

IN THE SUMMER. YOUR WALLS NEED TO BREATHE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS WAS DONE.

THESE WALLS DO NOT BREATHE THE WAY THEY NEED TO.

WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES. WE'VE WE'VE DONE THINGS WITH GUTTERING AND OTHER WAYS TO GET THE WATER AWAY.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE LARGE RAINS THE THREE INCH RAINS THAT WE GET IN THE SPRING AND IN THE FALL, THAT WATER BACKS UP, AND THEN IT JUST CAN GO INTO THE BUILDING.

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WE FOUND 14 PLACES WITHIN THE BUILDING THAT WE HAD TO TEAR WALLS APART, ADDRESS THE MOLD.

IT DISPLACED HIS OFFICERS. AND IT JUST AS TIME GOES BY, THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE.

UNLESS WE DO A VERY MAJOR, SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO ALL THE GRADING AROUND THE BUILDING.

AND IF YOU'LL LOSE TREES, YOU'LL HAVE TO CHANGE PARKING.

IT'S A HUGE INVESTMENT TO MAKE THAT CONCERN GO AWAY.

SO THAT IS IS SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S CONCERNING THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF AND THAT WE ADDRESS SOMEHOW AS PART OF WHATEVER SOLUTION IS, IS FOUND FOR THE, FOR THE BUILDING TALKED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION.

AND THEN AS YOU WALK THROUGH AND YOU SEE THE FURNITURE AND FIXTURES, THEY ARE THEY'RE OLD.

WE WE HAD ACTUALLY ONE OF COLLAPSE IT HAD LIKE A BOOKSHELF THAT GOT UNSEATED AND IT FELL AND AND INJURED SOMEONE. SO IT IS IT IS TIME TO TO MAKE INVESTMENTS AND AND ADDRESS THOSE, THOSE CONCERNS.

SO WE HAD A BOND ELECTION IN 2019 AND THE ROOF WAS PUT ON.

SO HIS ROOF SIX YEARS OLD OR WHEN WAS THE ROOF? SO THE IT WAS DURING THE COVID TIME, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT TIME THEY WERE.

THERE WERE MULTIPLE PHASES. THERE'S A FLAT ROOF.

AND THEN IF YOU WALK AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S ACTUALLY SLOPED SHINGLE ROOFS.

AND THOSE WERE DONE IN PHASES. THERE WAS ALSO SOME WORK DONE TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.

IT HAD THESE STRANGE LITTLE EYEBROW WINDOW OR CUTOUTS IN THE ROOF THAT WERE JUST, JUST SO PRONE TO LEAK BECAUSE OF THEIR, THEIR DESIGN. SO THERE WERE STEPS DONE TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE THOSE OUT.

REENGINEER THE ROOF. WE HAD TO ADD SOME STRUCTURAL SUPPORT, EMBRACING AS PART OF THE THE THE HVAC AND THE GUN RANGE REPAIR, BECAUSE THE BUILDING JUST WAS NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO HOLD THE, THE THE NEWER UNITS IN THE WEIGHT AND THE SIZES THAT THAT GO ON TOP OF IT.

SO, SO THE BONES OF THIS BUILDING, WHAT IS THAT CONSTRUCTED OF.

SO A SLAB ON GRADE FOUNDATION. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOU HAVE STEEL STRUCTURE AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE WALLS OR YOUR, YOUR WOOD, WOOD CONSTRUCTION IN FILLING AND THE, THE, THE CONCRETE AND STEEL.

SO THE, THIS PARTICULAR WALL, YOU'D HAVE SIDING ON THE OUTSIDE OR BRICK ON THE OUTSIDE, WOOD FRAMING AND THEN INTERIOR SHEETROCK.

AS YOU'RE AWARE, IN YOUR INDUSTRY, A LOT HAS CHANGED IN THE CONSTRUCTION TECHNOLOGY AND SCIENCE FROM 1984 TILL TILL NOW.

VAPOR BARRIERS. MOISTURE BARRIERS DOES DOES NOT HAVE THOSE.

THAT WAS JUST PRE I MEAN, TYVEK MAY HAVE BEEN JUST COMING OUT AT THAT POINT.

THOSE DON'T EXIST. AT DIFFERENT TIMES DURING ITS LIFE, SOME OF THAT SIDING WAS ALLOWED TO DETERIORATE.

WATER GOT IN. THAT'S ALL BEEN ADDRESSED NOW. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THAT OVER OVER 40 YEARS ANOTHER INTERESTING CONSTRUCTION FEATURE ON THIS ON THE, THE SECOND FLOOR AND SOME OF THE FIRST FLOOR IS IT WAS VERY POPULAR IN THE 80S.

IT'S A IT'S A VINYL WALLPAPER. YEAH. SO IMAGINE IT'S LIKE TAKING YOUR HAND AND PUTTING IT IN A PLASTIC BAG AROUND IT.

RIGHT. YOUR, YOUR, YOUR BODY NEEDS TO BREATHE, RIGHT.

THAT JUST STOPS ALL ABILITY FOR THAT WALL TO BREATHE.

AND YOU COMBINE THAT WITH THE OLD TECHNOLOGY, THE WOOD FRAME CONSTRUCTION LEAKS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE PAST, YOU AND THEN THE THE WAY THE, THE LANDSCAPING WAS DONE.

YOU JUST CREATED A CONDITION WHERE THESE WALLS ARE PRONE TO HOLD MOISTURE.

AND IF JUST OVER TIME, AS WE JUST HAD THAT THAT PROCESS TWO YEARS AGO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SPOT CONDITIONS WHERE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE MOLD OR OTHER GROWTH THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

SO HAVE YOU OVER THE PERIOD OF 40 YEARS, IF YOU PEST CONTROL THIS BUILDING MULTIPLE TIMES.

YES, SIR. THAT'S A THAT'S A IT'S A MONTHLY SERVICE.

NOW I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT HAPPENED IN THE, THE, THE 80S OR 90S, BUT LOOKING AT RECORDS THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT THAT HAS BEEN AN ONGOING PROCESS FOR THE LAST CERTAINLY THE LAST 20 YEARS.

OKAY. SO AND THEN THE CONDITIONS CHANGE THEN.

RIGHT. WHAT THEY WERE ALLOWED TO USE IN THE 70S OR THE 70S, BUT GOING BACK THERE'S MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.

BUT IT WASN'T ALWAYS THAT WAY. AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MAY BE IN THE SOILS WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED FOR USE TODAY.

YES THAT'S TRUE. THIS BUILDING IS NOT 88 COMPLIANT, IS IT? OH. SO IT. IT WAS DESIGNED AT I THINK ADA STARTED IN 1993.

SO IT WAS A DECADE BEFORE THAT LAW WAS EVEN CONTEMPLATED.

AND THEN YOU LOOK OVER THE 30 YEARS THAT THAT HAS EXISTED, THAT'S BEEN INTERPRETED IN CASE LAW,

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AND THAT'S PART OF THE DIFFICULTY. CONCERN. I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME FOLKS IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY HERE.

SO WHEN WE TOUCH SOMETHING, LIKE WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THE BREAK ROOM AND YOU'RE LIKE, BILL, IT WOULDN'T TAKE MUCH TO CHANGE THESE CABINETS. WELL, WE'VE GOT ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION, WE'VE GOT ASBESTOS. WE HAVE TO BRING IT UP TO CODE.

WE HAVE TO BRING IT UP TO ADA. SO THIS WHAT AT YOUR HOME WOULD BE A $25,000 REFRESH IS NOW A QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR REFRESH.

AND BECAUSE YOU NOW HAVE TO COMPLY WITH WE'RE CHANGING DOOR SIZES.

AND ACTUALLY YOUR USABLE SPACE GETS MUCH, MUCH SMALLER.

SO YOU'RE SPENDING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT YOUR RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT.

WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THE COST BENEFIT IT'S A HUGE COST AND SOMETIMES ACTUALLY A NEGATIVE TO THE OPERATIONS.

AND WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY CONSTRAINED ON SPACE AND THEN YOU LOSE MORE TO MEET THOSE NEW REQUIREMENTS.

RIGHT. THE ARCHITECTS IN A FUTURE MEETING, WILL, WILL TALK ABOUT NEW PUBLIC BUILDINGS, HAVE TO HAVE THESE SAFETY STRUCTURES WITHIN THEM TO SURVIVE TORNADOES. SO AT A CERTAIN POINT, DEPENDING ON AN INVESTMENT ON AN EXISTING BUILDING, YOU HAVE TO BRING THAT UP TO COMPLIANCE. THAT WAS A FIRE CHIEF AND A FORMER FORMER CAREER.

AND I HAD TO DO THAT ON A BUILDING. AND THAT WAS A YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DOUBLE USE THAT SPACE, BUT YOU JUST START GETTING INTO A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS THAT THE COSTS GO THROUGH THE ROOF FOR WHAT YOU GET.

WELL, I WATCHED THEM BUILD FARMERS BRANCH, POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND WHEN THEY BUILT THAT YOU CAN TELL THAT THEY INCREASED, ESPECIALLY FOR STORMS AND EVERYTHING ELSE BECAUSE IT'S A FACILITY THAT NEEDS TO OPERATE IF A TORNADO COMES THROUGH HERE? YES. YEAH. SO I'M HOPING THE FORWARD BUTTON IS OKAY.

GOOD. BECAUSE IT SAYS AND UNDERNEATH IT AND I'M LIKE, OH NO, WHAT AM I GOING TO DO IF I HIT THAT BUTTON? SECURITY CONCERNS CHIEF TALKED ABOUT THAT. AND IT'S IT'S HARD TO SEE WITH THESE BLINDS.

THEY'VE THEY'VE GONE IN AND RETROFITTED SOME SAFETY GLASS AND SUCH.

AND IT'S SOMEBODY MADE A DECISION AT SOME POINT, AND THEY DID THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, BUT NOT THE BACK.

WELL, SOME PERSON WHO HAD SOME MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES HOPPED THE FENCE AND FOUND ONE OF THE FEW WINDOWS IN THE BUILDING THAT WASN'T BULLETPROOF AND BROKE IN USED A FIRE EXTINGUISHER, SPRAYED IT AROUND, CAUSED SOME DAMAGE.

SO THERE'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY. THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS BUILDING YOU DON'T WANT SOMEBODY GETTING THEIR HANDS ON, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO TIGHTEN THE EXTERIOR UP, BUILD MULTIPLE LAYERS TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE SAFE.

AND PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE WHERE THEY ARE. AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN HERE FEEL SAFE NOT KNOWING WHO'S GOING TO LITERALLY COME THROUGH A WINDOW, RIGHT? ADA. COMPLIANCE. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

AGAIN, IT'S PRE ADA AND THE COST TO BRING IT UP TO, TO TO SPEED OR OR TREMENDOUS CODE COMPLIANCE.

SO THE WIRING BUILT AT THE TIME TO WIRE AND I WAS THREE.

SO JUST ANY TIME WE'RE TOUCHING ANYTHING WE'RE REDOING A LOT OF WIRING.

WE'RE REDOING A LOT OF PLUMBING. WE'RE REMEDIATING ASBESTOS.

WE'RE BID UP TO ADA. SO IF YOU'RE IN THIS TRADE OR YOU'VE DONE SOME REMODELING AT HOME OR YOUR BUSINESS, JUST WANTED TO GET UP FRONT AND SAY IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE OR AS EASY BECAUSE THIS WAS OLDER CODES PRE ADA.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF EXTRA THINGS THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO AS ANY PART OF A REUSE OF THIS FACILITY.

ALL RIGHT. I THINK AT THIS POINT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR? WELL, I JUST WANTED CHRIS HAD COMMENTED ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT HAS DOUBLED IN SIZE.

THE RESIDENTIAL POPULATION HAS TRIPLED IN SIZE, AND THE COMMERCIAL POPULATION HAS QUADRUPLED IN SIZE SINCE, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDINGS JUST OUTLIVED ITS ITS USEFULNESS, FRANKLY.

AND IT'S IT'S YEAH. AND I DON'T WANT TO BIAS THE PROCESS, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU MY BIAS.

TO REMODEL THIS BUILDING AND RELOCATE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SOMEPLACE ELSE WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT.

AND I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT, BUT I I JUST THINK OUT OF OUT OF THE THREE THAT YOU PRESENTED SO FAR, THIS SEEMS LIKE THE, THE LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AT LEAST THE LEAST PRACTICAL OF THE THREE IS THAT IT'S JUST REALLY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO STAY IN THE BUILDING AND REMODEL IT.

AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE AS EXTENSIVE AS WHAT THEY'VE MENTIONED.

SO. SO SO HOW MANY OFFICERS DO YOU ANTICIPATE, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE PARK APARTMENTS BUILDING AND ALL THAT,

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HOW MANY OFFICERS DO YOU ANTICIPATE PULLING INTO THE ADDISON POLICE DEPARTMENT AGAIN? YES, SIR. SO WE CAN GO A LITTLE MORE IN DETAIL IN THE NEXT MEETING OF JUST FUTURE STAFFING. BUT I WILL SAY RIGHT NOW THAT THE STAFFING THAT WE HAVE, WE ARE LOOKING TO TO INCREASE OVER THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS WE'VE LOOKED AT DOING STAFFING STUDIES TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS.

WE DON'T HAVE THE FIRM NUMBER. RATHER WE WOULD BE LOOKING INTO THAT, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE PLANNING FOR A FUTURE GROWTH.

AND WILL YOU ADDRESS THIS IN THE NEXT MEETING.

HOW MANY CARS IS NEEDED AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF.

AND WE WHENEVER WE WALK THROUGH, YOU'LL SEE OUR SECURED PARKING. OF JUST THE, THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY AND THEN WE CAN TALK THROUGH JUST LOOK AT THE LAST TEN YEARS WHERE WE WERE AS A PROFESSION WITH POLICING, WITH EQUIPMENT AND TECHNOLOGY, AND THEN JUST LOOKING AT ALL THE ADVANCES NOW OF JUST WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS. WE TALK THROUGH THAT.

OKAY. WELL, I'M ASSUMING WE'RE NOT TO TAKE ANY PICTURES OR ANYTHING AS WE WALK THROUGH.

CORRECT. NO. PLEASE. NOT. YEAH. AND WE WILL. YEAH.

WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME ACCESS TO SECURED AREAS. YEAH.

WE WON'T TAKE ANY PICTURES. I THINK JUST BACK TO RON'S COMMENTS IS ONE OF THE.

AND I CAN'T RECALL. SORRY, BUT IS ONE OF THE OPTIONS TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING OFFSITE SOMEWHERE AND THEN REPURPOSE THIS BUILDING OR OR DO WE WANT TO REUSE THIS BUILDING? THAT WOULD BE DECISIONS FOR COUNCIL STAFF GOING FORWARD OF WHAT'S DONE WITH THE CURRENT FACILITIES.

WE DO LOOK AT AN OPTION TO WHERE WE DON'T STAY HERE.

AND IS THAT AN OPTION WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE? RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO IT DOES KIND OF GO OVER.

SO WE GOT A CHARGE FROM COUNCIL. AND THEN THAT KIND OF LED TO THE OPTION.

SO AS WE GO THROUGH THE WILL BE THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE GO THROUGH THE OPTIONS.

SO THE OPTIONS WILL BE THERE'LL BE AN OPTION.

COUNCIL ASKED FOR AN OPTION TO JUST RENOVATE THIS BUILDING. SO YOU WILL SEE IN WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO RENOVATE THIS BUILDING. AND EACH OF THESE WILL SAY, HERE'S THE BENEFITS, HERE'S THE THE DRAWBACKS OF DOING THAT.

SO WE'LL GO INTO ALL THE CONVERSATIONS ON THAT INCLUDED IN THAT.

WE'LL SAY, WELL, WHAT IF WE RENOVATED THIS BUILDING AND JUST DID AN ADDITION TO TRY TO GET THE EXTRA OFFICE SPACE THAT WE NEED, THE EXTRA SQUARE FOOTAGE. THEN WE'LL ALSO THEN WE'LL LOOK AT AN OPTION THAT SAYS, IF WE KNOCK THIS BUILDING DOWN AND BUILD ON THE CURRENT SITE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE. AND AGAIN, THERE'S DRAWBACKS TO THAT.

THERE'S POSITIVES TO THAT. WE'LL LOOK AT IF WE GO TO A GREENFIELD SITE, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF GREENFIELD SITES IN TOWN, BUT WE DO HAVE A PROPERTY NEARBY THAT WE ALREADY OWN THAT WE COULD LOOK AT ACQUIRING SOME LAND NEARBY.

THAT ACTUALLY WOULD BE A FEASIBLE OPTION. SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING AN OPTION TO SAY IF WE DO A GREENFIELD SITE AND WE BUILD UP A NEW BUILDING, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS. A BENEFIT OF DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS OUR OFFICERS GET TO CONTINUE HERE UNTIL THAT MOMENT AND THEN DO A TRANSITION.

AND THEN FINALLY WE'LL LOOK AT AN OPTION WHERE WE SAY, WHAT IF WE WIN AND PURCHASE AN OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S FOR SALE RIGHT NOW? I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT CERTAIN OF THE CERTAIN OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN ARE IN THAT CONDITION.

SO COULD WE GO TO AN EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING AND RENOVATE THAT OFFICE BUILDING TO BRING IT UP TO WHERE WE WOULD NEED IT FOR A POLICE STATION? SO THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS THAT WE'LL LOOK AT. SOMEONE WILL BE GOING TO A, ONE A, ONE, B, BUT THOSE 3 OR 4 OPTIONS WILL BE WHAT WE LOOK AT.

YES. HOW MANY ACRES ARE THIS BUILDING SITS ON? HOW MANY ACRES? 2.7, 2.7, 2.7. YEP.

WELL, I SINCE I'M UP HERE, I DO WANT TO JUST SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME.

TO BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS. I, I KNOW PERSONALLY I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.

I KNOW IT'S TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY TO BE HERE FOR THESE THESE FOUR OR SO MEETINGS, AND WE TRULY APPRECIATE IT.

IT'S AN INVALUABLE PART OF THE PROCESS. SO WHAT I CAN COMMIT TO YOU IS AS WE PREPARE THESE MEETINGS, WE'VE DONE IT IN A WAY TO GIVE YOU AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE, MAKE IT AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE SO THAT AT THE END, WHEN YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE EXHAUSTED ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, AND YOU'VE SEEN EVERYTHING IN A CLEAR, CONCISE MANNER SO THAT YOU'RE EDUCATED AT THAT POINT.

SO WE'RE COMMITTED TO THAT, AND WE DO. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

AND I'LL LET SARAH COME UP RIGHT NOW. ONE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE WE WILL ADJOURN THE FORMAL MEETING,

[c. Appoint a Chairperson for the Bond Advisory Committee. ]

SO THE LAST ITEM THAT WE HAVE IS ITEM TWO. AND THAT'S TO APPOINT A CHAIRPERSON OF THE BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

SO AT THIS TIME, WE CAN OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR A CHAIR.

SARAH. AND FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A NOMINATION FOR THE POSITION OF CHAIR OF THIS IMPORTANT BOND ELECTION COMMITTEE.

AS WE ALL KNOW, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ENTRUSTED US WITH A SIGNIFICANT TASK TO CAREFULLY EVALUATE THE OPTIONS FOR THE POLICE AND COURTS FACILITY AND RECOMMEND A BOND PROGRAM AMOUNT TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE PUBLIC IN MAY OF 2026.

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I BELIEVE THAT THE IDEAL CHAIR SHOULD POSSESS A STRONG UNDERSTANDING OF EDISON'S COMMUNITY NEEDS, EXPERIENCE IN NAVIGATING COMPLEX PROJECTS, AND A PROVEN ABILITY TO LEAD AND FACILITATE GROUP DECISION MAKING.

SOMEONE WHO CAN KEEP US FOCUSED ON THE TASK AT HAND, WHILE ALSO ENCOURAGING OPEN DIALOG AND A CREATIVE PROBLEM SOLVING.

THEREFORE, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE ARMANDO GALLARDO, A LICENSED ARCHITECT.

ARMANDO BRINGS AN EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN PLANNING, DESIGN AND MANAGEMENT OF COMMERCIAL, RETAIL, MIXED USE, HEALTHCARE, HOSPITALITY AND RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS TO THE TABLE.

HIS BACKGROUND INCLUDES STRATEGIC AND SITE MASTER PLANNING, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION, AS WELL AS EXPERIENCE WRITING PROPOSALS AND NEGOTIATING CONTRACTS.

HE ALSO POSSESSES EXCELLENT COMMUNICATION SKILLS, A COLLABORATIVE SPIRIT, AND A COMMITMENT TO SERVING THE ADDISON COMMUNITY.

I'M CONFIDENT THAT HE WILL GUIDE US EFFECTIVELY THROUGH THIS PROCESS, ENSURING THAT WE DELIVER WELL REASONED RECOMMENDATIONS THAT BENEFIT THE ENTIRE TOWN.

WOW. WOW. THAT WASN'T PREPARED. DID YOU TALK TO HIM? CV. CV. THANK YOU. WHAT IS IT? CAN I CAN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION OR A POINT OF REFERENCE BEFORE WE GO TO DISCUSSION? ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? OKAY. WE CAN OPEN. MR. WHITEHEAD, WOULD YOU CONSIDER. NO, I DON'T REALLY THINK I'M THE APPROPRIATE PERSON.

I THINK I'M BETTER AS A RESOURCE, BUT THANK YOU.

MR. BROWN. SAME. OKAY. MR. JACOBY POSSIBLE. ASK A BUSY PERSON.

DO A LOT OF THINGS. YEAH, I KNOW, COMMERCIAL, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF AN ARCHITECT.

YEAH, I WENT OVER HERE. MR. DECKER, I DON'T REALLY HAVE THE EXPERTISE NECESSARY.

NO. MR. PEDROSA, MR. HYDE. NO, I THINK I THINK EVERYBODY'S COOL WITH IT.

OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. SORRY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR DISCUSSION. I THINK THAT I THINK THAT THIS IS THIS IS COOL WITH THAT. YEAH, I COULD ALSO I'M ASSUMING WE COULD ALSO CONSIDER CO-CHAIR.

IF THERE WAS SOMEONE THAT WAS INTERESTED, YOU COULD DO A VICE CHAIR.

SO THAT IF THE CHAIR IS ABSENT OR UNABLE TO STEP AWAY FROM THE MEETING, WE SHOULD DO THAT ANYWAY.

YEAH. YEAH, YOU SHOULD DO THAT. I MY EXPERIENCE IS WHEN YOU DO CO-CHAIR, SOMETIMES IT'S VICE CHAIR.

YEAH. VICE CHAIR TO STEP IN. BUT IT WOULDN'T DO A CO-CHAIR, I WOULDN'T THINK.

YEAH. MR. BARKER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE VICE CHAIR? I WOULD SERVE AS VICE CHAIR IF NOMINATED. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MR. BARKER AS VICE CHAIR. I'LL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU.

AND NOW, VICE CHAIR, LET'S LET'S GO BACK TO. LET'S GO BACK TO.

ACTUALLY, LET'S GO BACK TO CHAIR. SO WE HAD A NOMINATION FOR ARMANDO GALLARDO.

MAY WE HAVE A. OH, YOU NEED A SECOND? NO. SO THERE'S A MOTION BY JIM.

OKAY. SECOND BY TOM. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? I THINK THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING RAINED OUT TO BE CHAIR. I THINK THAT'S LOVELY.

YES. I, I JUST AS SOMEONE WHO OBVIOUSLY IS NOT AS QUALIFIED AS ALL OF THESE PEOPLE HERE, I AND AS YOU CAN TELL, I LIKE TO ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS. WILL YOU LET'S WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE VOW HERE, WILL YOU, ARMANDO, ALLOW US TO ASK QUESTIONS AND AND POSSIBLY HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IF POSSIBLE, IF NEEDED? OR ARE YOU GOING TO STAY TO FOR MEETINGS? I THINK WE'LL ASSESS IT AS WE GO.

THERE YOU GO. VERY GOOD. WELL SAID. YES. AND WITH THIS RING.

I KNOW, I'M JUST JOKING. WE'RE JUST IN A COURTROOM. I'M JUST JOKING.

SO, YEAH. OUT OF ORDER. TOTALLY OUT OF ORDER.

I'M GLAD IT'S NOT BEING RECORDED. YEAH. SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IT'S BEING RECORDED. I KNOW, BUT YOU SAID HE COULD EDIT IT.

OKAY, SO I GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND. CHAIR. ALL FOR AMANDA GALLARDO.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ANY OPPOSED? BETTER NOT BE OPPOSED. YEAH. OKAY, NOW WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO.

DO YOU WANT TO RUN THE VICE CHAIR PROCESS? YEAH.

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YEAH. ANY NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR? MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A NOMINATION OF MR. JIMMY BARKER AS VICE CHAIR. MAYOR A SECOND. OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? IS THE DISCUSSION CLOSED? DISCUSSION IS CLOSED. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? HELLO? VICE CHAIR. MOTION FIRST. MOTION PASSES.

OKAY, GREAT. SO WITH THAT OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 20TH.

IT'LL START AT 6 P.M.. WE'LL HAVE DINNER AGAIN AVAILABLE AT 530 FOR YOU.

WE WILL BE AT NEW TOWN HALL. WE'RE ACTUALLY MOVING IN IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS TO THE REMODEL CONFERENCE CENTER.

SO WE'LL BE AT THAT FACILITY FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

AND WITH THAT CHAIR, IF YOU COULD ADJOURN THE MEETING AND THEN WE'LL GO TAKE A TOUR OF THE FACILITIES.

DO YOU HAVE A GAVEL? MEETING ADJOURNED. ADJOURN AT 724.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.