* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] GOOD EVENING. [1. Call Meeting to Order] I CALL THE REGULAR PLANNING, WELL, THE NOT REGULAR, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WORK SESSION TUESDAY, OCTOBER 21ST, 2025 TO ORDER. UH, LESLIE, I WILL TURN OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU. UH, LESLIE AND I, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. [1. Status update on recent Planning and Zoning Commission cases and planning policy items.] FIRST ITEM ON THE WORK SESSION IS A STATUS UPDATE ON, UH, RECENT, UM, CASES AND POLICY ITEMS. SO THE, UM, ONLY UPDATES I HAVE IS THAT, UM, THE, AT YOUR LAST MEETING YOU CONSIDERED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR FLIGHT CLUB THAT GOT APPROVED LAST WEEK BY CITY COUNCIL. SO THAT WILL BE MOVING FORWARD. THEY HAD ALREADY STARTED DEMO, UH, AND WE HAD, WE'VE ISSUED PERMITS, SO THEY'RE WELL UNDERWAY FOR THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM, WHICH WAS THE COBALT HOMES DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS I BELIEVE 2028 OR 29 FEE, SIMPLE TOWN HOMES AT THE CORNER OF AIRPORT PARKWAY AND QUORUM. UM, THE APPLICANT HAD, UH, RECOMMEND ASKED COUNSEL TO POSTPONE THAT ITEM, UH, TO A FUTURE DATE. UH, THAT WAS UNCERTAIN AND COUNCIL DID THAT. SO IT WILL, IT'S STILL PENDING COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE DATE FOR THE REZONING OF THAT ITEM. DID YOU, I, I SEPARATELY HAD CALLED YOU OR SENT YOU A NOTE ABOUT THE SCHOOL WESTWOOD? YES. AND BEING OPEN, NOT OPEN USING THE OTHER FACILITY. DID YOU FIND OUT ANYTHING ABOUT UM, SO THEY ARE OPEN, THEY BEGAN CLASSES THE DAY AFTER LABOR DAY, WHICH IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT, WAS APPROXIMATELY SEPTEMBER 3RD. SO THAT WAS THEIR OFFICIAL TRANSITION INTO THE, THE NEW SCHOOL YEAR. IN THE NEW FACILITY. THEY ARE NOT USING THE OLD FACILITY, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT WAS. BUT THEY HAD MULTIPLE FACILITIES IN FARMER'S BRANCH PREVIOUSLY, BUT THEY'VE TRANSITIONED EVERYONE TO THE NEW FACILITY. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT LINGERING ACTIVITY WAS. THEY WERE OUT OF THEIR OLD FACILITY. UM, IT WAS EITHER JUNE OR JULY 15TH. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. TELL THE, THE GUYS OVER IN, I GUESS, TRANSPORTATION. THANKS FOR HAVING THEM FIX THEIR APPROACH, CURB TO THE SCHOOL CURB, CURB CUT AT THAT POINT, OH, ON THE, THE PORK SHOP AT THE SCHOOL? YES. YEAH. . YES. THERE WAS THEY, YES, THEY HAVE REPAIRED. THAT LOOKS A LOT, MUCH BETTER. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON OUTSTANDING CASES OR ITEMS? OKAY. PERFECT. UM, ALRIGHT. THE SECOND [2. Discussion regarding items on the agenda for the October 21, 2025 Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting: September 16, 2025 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes. Final Plat for the AMLI Treehouse Addition, Block 1, Lots 1-9, 10X, 11-15, 16X, 17-22, 23X, 24-37, and 38X for a mixed-use development on 13.6± acres located at the southwest corner of the intersection of Midway Road and Beltway Drive (Case FP2025-03). Final Plat for the AMLI Treehouse Addition 2, Block 1, Lots 1, 1A, 2-19, 20X, 21-25, 26X, 27-31 and 32X, for a mixed-use development on 8.2± acres located at the southwest corner of the intersection of Midway Road and Beltway Drive (Case FP2025-04). Special Use Permit request for Prestige Ambiance, a restaurant with late-night hours and on-site consumption of hookah, at 4460 Belt Line Road (Case 1937-SUP). Rezone request from Planned Development (PD), Ordinance No. 020-47, to Mixed-Use Suburban Corridor (M-2) and a new Planned Development (PD) District for 16641 Dallas Parkway for multifamily residential, fee-simple townhomes, and associated private open space and common areas (Case 1939-Z). Recommendation on the Advance Addison 2050 Comprehensive Plan.] ITEM ON THE WORK SESSION IS DISCUSSION REGARDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING, UH, FOR THE REGULAR MEETING. UM, SO THE FIRST ITEM IS THE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER MEETING WITH ANY COMMENTS OR CORRECTIONS ON THAT. OKAY. UM, THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. THEY ARE, UM, RELATED AND ALSO RELATED TO, UM, A CASE YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY HEARD, UM, RELATED TO THE AM LEE TREE HOUSE PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO. UM, I SHOULD ALSO NOTE, I APOLOGIZE, I FORGOT THOSE BOTH GOT YOU CONSIDERED THOSE LAST MEETING AS WELL AND THOSE BOTH GOT APPROVED AT COUNCIL, SO I APOLOGIZE. FORGOT ABOUT THAT. UM, SO THESE ARE THE FINAL PLATS FOR THESE, THO THOSE TWO CASES, THE TWO PHASES OF THAT PROJECT. UM, THE FIRST IS A FINAL PLAT FOR PHASE ONE. THE SECOND IS A FINAL PLAT FOR PHASE TWO. UM, THE ONE THING TO NOTE FOR THE PHASE ONE PLAT, THERE WAS SOME, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT SENT IN. UM, IT IS ON YOUR ONEDRIVE AND IT WAS EMAILED DIRECTLY TO ALL OF YOU. UM, BUT IT'S ON YOUR ONEDRIVE FOR REFERENCE, UM, AS WELL. UM, STAFF DID REVIEW BOTH OF THESE PLATS, UM, FOLLOWING THE APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. SO PHASE ONE GOT, UH, APPROVED FOR THEIR PRELIMINARY PLAT IN 2022. AND PHASE UH TWO GOT APPROVED IN, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR IN 2025. IT WAS IN MARCH. UM, AND BOTH PLATS COMPLY WITH OUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. SO BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON EITHER OF THOSE? YEAH, HI LESLIE. I'VE GOT ONE. DO WE EVEN HAVE THE POWER TO, TO TABLE THIS? I MEAN WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS IT, RIGHT? BUT IS THERE ANYTHING MM-HMM . CAN WE JUST SAY NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA VOTE ON THIS UNTIL WE'RE SURE. UH, NO. SO STATE LAW IS, IS HAS A LOT OF PARAMETERS SET FOR PLAT PLATTING AND SUBDIVISION. UM, A COUPLE OF HIGH LEVEL ONES. UM, THE COMMISSION IS THE DECIDING BODY ON PLATS. MM-HMM . THEY DO NOT CONTINUE ON TO COUNCIL. UM, THE STATE LAW DICTATES THAT WE MUST, MUNICIPALITIES MUST ACT UPON PLAT APPLICATIONS WITHIN 30 DAYS OF APP OF SUBMITTAL OF THAT APPLICATION. AND THEN, UH, ADDITIONALLY THERE IS NOT, THERE'S NO DISCRETION. THIS ISN'T LIKE A ZONING CASE. SO, UM, THE COMMISSION DOES NOT HAVE ANY DISCRETION TO, UM, DENY UNLESS THERE IS A, UM, VERY SPECIFIC PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT SAYS WHY IT IS, UM, INCOMPLETE OR, UM, THERE'S AN ERROR ON THE PLAT FOR EXAMPLE. RIGHT. AND, OH NO, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE GONNA COVER IT. I'M ALL GOOD . SO DO YOU, AS PART OF YOUR PROCESS HAVE TITLE WORK PULLED TO OR SOMEONE DO THAT REVIEW FOR YOU? ULTIMATELY? I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, THERE WAS A LOT OF NOT RECORDED. I GET THAT, BUT THAT [00:05:01] DOESN'T MEAN IT WASN'T IN THE HISTORY OF IT AT SOME POINT AND IT GOT, UM, VACATED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I'M, I'M JUST GETTING SOME CLARITY OF THE, THE COMPLAINTS THAT WERE FILED AS TO HOW YOUR PROCESS WORKS TO VERIFY THAT THIS IS INCORRECT FACT. CORRECT. SO WE DO NOT, UH, DO LIKE FORMAL TITLE SEARCHES. WE DON'T HIRE A THIRD PARTY TO DO THAT. UM, WE DO HAVE AN INTERNAL DATABASE AS WELL AS USING THE DALLAS RECORDS, UM, TO VERIFY INFORMATION, UM, AS, AS IT RELATES TO THE PLAT, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO EASEMENTS. ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE, THE OTHER THING IS WE ALSO HAVE ASBUILT. SO THAT WILL HELP US DETERMINE IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE KNOW THAT THERE IS EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THERE'S AN EASEMENT MISSING, WE USUALLY IDENTIFY THAT THERE'S THE EASEMENT MISSING. 'CAUSE THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GROUND. AND I WAS GONNA SAY, AND IT SEEMED LIKE A, A NUMBER OF THE THINGS ON THE, ON THE LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED HAD TO DO WITH ITEMS THAT ARE ON, ON ARE NOT ON THIS PROPERTY, LIKE CORRECT RECORDED EASEMENTS ON, ON A DIFFERENT PROPERTY. BUT WE NEVER DO THAT ON, IF YOU'RE DOING THE PLOT HERE, WHY WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE TO SHOW OTHER EASEMENTS. CORRECT. YEAH. SO, UM, WE TRADIT WE HAVE HISTORICALLY ONLY REQUIRED ITEMS THAT PERTAIN TO THE SUBDIVISION IN QUESTION. SO AN OFFSITE EASEMENT MAY BE IDENTIFIED IF IT PERTAINS TO THIS LOT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE IS, IF IT'S TYING INTO A PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS, IF HAS A CORRESPONDING EASEMENT ACROSS ANOTHER, UM, PROPERTY. UH, THIS PROPERTY DOES HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE THERE. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE THAT COMES DOWN FROM TOWN LAKE AND ACROSS TO MIDWAY. UM, AND THAT EXISTS, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY ON PHASE TWO JUST FOR REFERENCE. UM, SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE REFERENCED. BUT AS FAR AS OTHER OFFSITE EASEMENTS THAT ARE EITHER IN ADDISON OR IN FARMER'S BRANCH, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY FARMER'S BRANCHES ACROSS MIDWAY, UH, WE WOULDN'T REQUIRE THOSE IF THEY DO NOT PERTAIN TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. SO THE TWO PROPERTY PENS THAT THEY KEEP SAYING MM-HMM . ARE BEING MISSED. CAN YOU GIMME THE OVER, LIKE THE CLIFF NOTES ON LIKE WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT? I MEAN, IS THAT A SURE, ARE THEY CLAIMING THAT THE LINE, THAT THE LINE DOES THIS OR THEY, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE, YEAH, SO, UM, UH, IN SIMPLISTIC TERMS, UM, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A REQUIREMENT THAT ALL PINS ARE IDENTIFIED UNLESS THEY IMPACT THE BOUNDARY. SO IF THEY IMPACT THE BOUNDARY, THEN YES, THE PENS NEED TO BE SHOWN. IF THEY DON'T IMPACT THE BOUNDARY, THEN YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO INCLUDE ALL PENS IF, UH, IF THEY DON'T RELATE TO THE PROPERTY AT QUESTION. ONCE AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THE COMMENT BEFORE ABOUT REGARDING EASEMENTS OFFSITE EASEMENTS, UM, I BELIEVE SO THIS, UH, PARTICULAR INPUT THAT WAS PROVIDED COMES FROM A, UM, LONG HISTORY OF COMMUNICATION, UM, THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE LETTER A BIT. SO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY WAS IDENTIFIED, UM, AND INTRODUCED TO, TO, TO ME, UM, APPROXIMATELY JULY, UH, OF LA END OF JULY LAST YEAR, 2024, THAT THERE WAS A FENCE ENCROACHMENT FROM THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ONTO WHAT IS AMWAY'S PROPERTY. AND THAT IS THE SAME PROPERTY THAT WILL BECOME THE TOWN PARK, UM, ONCE DEED. AND SO, UH, THERE WAS A, UM, A LONG HISTORY OF CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN AMLI, UM, AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITH THE TOWN SERVING AS, UM, KIND OF A MEDIATOR BUT ALSO INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT WILL BECOME TOWN PROPERTY. UM, COMING OFF OF ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF OF DISCUSSIONS, UH, LAST WEEK, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT INCLUDED VARIOUS ITEMS INCLUDING A SPECIAL WARRANTY DEED FOR THE PARK, PARK, UM, COVENANT MAINTENANCE AND COVENANTS, BUT ALSO THE RESOLUTION OF THE, THIS FENCE ENCROACHMENT TO ABSOLVE THE TOWN OF LIABILITY. SO WHAT AM EMILY DID WAS THEY, IN THAT MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEY INCLUDE INCLUDED AN INDEMNITY CLAUSE THAT, UM, INDEMNIFIED THE TOWN OF LIABILITY OF THIS ENCROACHMENT WHILE AMWAY TRIED TO FIND A RESOLUTION. UM, THERE IS A RESOLUTION, THERE ARE SEVEN IMPACTED PROPERTIES. UM, SIX OF THEM HAVE, UM, ELECTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A BOUNDARY LINE AGREEMENT. THAT BOUNDARY LINE AGREEMENT ESSENTIALLY SAYS, WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A FENCE ENCROACHMENT, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF THE FENCE. IT DOESN'T BELONG TO THE TOWN, BUT IT CAN STAY WHERE IT IS. WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THEM MOVE IT, WHATEVER. UM, THERE IS ONE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER, UM, WHO HAS, UH, ELECTED NOT TO PARTICIPATE SAYING SO THAT, SO IN THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS, THEY GOTTA KEEP THEIR FENCE WHERE IT'S BEEN FOR ALL THESE YEARS. AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT ON THEIR PROPERTY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA MOVE IT BACK INTO THEIR YARD, SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA LOSE ANY [00:10:01] PROPERTY. OKAY. CORRECT. YEAH. THE BOUNDARY LINE AGREEMENT IS, IS ESSENTIALLY IF IN THE MOST SIMPLISTIC TERMS, IT ABSOLVES THE TOWN OF LIABILITY, UH, AND MAINTENANCE OF THE FENCES, BUT WE'RE NOT MAKING THEM MOVE IT. UM, JUST TO BALLS AND STRIKES A QUESTION, YOU HAD SAID THAT THE PINS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DESIGNATED AND SHOWN IF THEY ARE ON THE BOUNDARY, CORRECT. SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME. SORRY. YOU SAID THAT THE MONUMENT PINS SHOULD BE SHOWN ON THE PLAT IF THEY ARE ON THE BOUNDARY. IS THAT CORRECT? NOT NECESSARILY IF THEY IMPACT, UH, THE BOUNDARY LINE. OKAY. SO IS THERE ANY PROBLEM WITH, IS THERE ANY PROBLEM WITH SHOWING THE PINS ON THE BOUNDARY LINE? THEY, THEY APPEAR TO BE FROM, FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE, THEY APPEAR TO BE INDICATIVE OF THE BOUNDARY LINE. UM, I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT. UM, IT, SO IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. UM, THE SURVEYOR HAS SOME DISCRETION TO CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THEM. AND FROM THE TOWN'S PERSPECTIVE, IT DOESN'T, SHOWING THEM OR NOT SHOWING THEM DOES NOT IMPACT THE BOUNDARY LINE. OKAY. SO THEIR CONTENTION THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SHOWN IS INCORRECT. THEY ARE, ARE THE TOWN'S POSITION IS THOSE PINS DO NOT NEED TO BE SHOWN PER TOWN POLICY OR RULE? YES. 'CAUSE 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T CORRECT. 'CAUSE IT DOES NOT IMPACT THE BOUNDARY LINE. IF THERE WAS A JOG AND IT, THE BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTED OKAY, THEN YES. SO YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THOSE PINS ARE REALLY ONLY SHOWING THERE EAST, WEST PROPERTY CORNERS MM-HMM . FOR THE, FOR THE ADJACENT, FOR THE, FOR THE YES. FOR THE ADJACENT HOMEOWNER THERE. CORRECT. CORRECT. QUICK QUESTION, WOULD THE CITY, WOULD, WOULD THE TOWN BE ISSUING A RESPONSE TO THIS LETTER OR JUST THE, IT IS NOT COMMON PRACTICE TO ISSUE A RESPONSE TO A PUBLIC INPUT. UM, BUT WE ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO CONVERSE AND CORRESPOND WITH A RESIDENT THAT HAS QUESTIONS. OKAY. IT, IT MIGHT BE GOOD JUST TO PUT, KEEP HISTORY OR, OR KEEP A TAG ON IT AS IT GOES ALONG. MM-HMM . HAVE THE, UH, TOWN'S RESPONSE. OKAY. I I'VE GOT ONE MORE, LESLIE. SO, UM, I BELIEVE YOU AND I THINK, I THINK THIS IS DONE RIGHT OF COURSE. AND THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO DOUBT THE WORK OF THIS. THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED OFF ON THIS, UM, WHAT AVENUES DOES, DOES THIS PERSON HAVE IF THEY, IF THEY REALLY THINK THEY'RE WRONG AND THEY THINK THEY HAVE A CASE, WE APPROVE THE PLAT TONIGHT 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO MM-HMM . BY STATE LAW OR IF WE DON'T ACT ON IT, IT GETS APPROVED ANYWAYS. UM, WHAT OPTIONS DO THEY HAVE? UM, COULD THEY GO TO COURT OR THEY GO TO COURT AGAINST ADDISON OR AMWAY? UH, THAT'S A HARD QUESTION FOR YOU. I'M SORRY. YEAH, I, I MEAN I, I BELIEVE THAT THE LIABILITY WOULD, WOULD, UH, LIE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. OKAY. UM, WHICH IN THIS CASE WOULD BE, UH, AMWAY. AND THEY HAVE ALSO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, ALSO PROVIDED THE INDEMNITY REGARDING THE BOUNDARY LINE IN THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT COUNCIL APPROVED LAST WEEK. OKAY. SO THAT'S MY OFF THE CUFF RESPONSE. . YEAH. NO, IT'S CERTAINLY NOT FINAL. THAT'S A, IS A BIG LEGAL QUESTION. YEAH, I, I MEAN I THINK THEY HAVE THE FREEDOM TO PURSUE THAT IF THEY WANT TO, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS BOARD CAN DO ANYTHING. UM, AND I DON'T EVEN, BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD, I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE HERE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ITEM? ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE CASE IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A, UH, REQUEST FOR A RESTAURANT WITH LATE NIGHT HOURS. UH, AND THEY WOULD ALSO LIKE THE ONSITE CONSUMPTION OF HOOKAH. THIS IS AT, UH, 44 60 BELTLINE ROAD. THIS IS WAS A FORMER RESTAURANT. IT WAS CLAY PITT AND THEN BARCE, BUT IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. UM, IT'S LOCATED NEXT TO CHILI'S ON BELTLINE ROAD. UM, SO THIS REQUEST IS COMING BEFORE YOU, UH, FOR TWO REASONS. THE FIRST, FOR LATE NIGHT HOURS, THEY HAVE REQUESTED THAT IT, UH, REMAIN OPEN UNTIL, UM, 2:00 AM ON THE WEEKENDS, WHICH IS FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. AND THEN THEY'VE ALSO REQUESTED, UM, HOOKAH, WHICH ALSO REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SO BOTH OF THOSE, UH, WOULD TRIGGER NEEDING THE ZONING APPROVAL. UM, AS I MENTIONED, THERE WOULD UTILIZE AN EXISTING, UM, BUILDING THAT WAS DEVELOPED FOR A RESTAURANT WITH PRETTY SIGNIFICANT REMODEL. THEY, UM, HAVE REQUESTED TO ADD A SECOND FLOOR, UM, TO THE BUILDING THAT WOULD HAVE, UM, SORT OF A, A BALCONY STYLE OPEN AIR SEATING AREA AND BAR THAT WOULD FACE TOWARDS BELTLINE. UM, THERE ARE A SERIES OF CONDITIONS THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. UH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR A RESTAURANT. UM, BUT SEVERAL CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED, UH, TO ENSURE THAT THE PROPERTY DOES, UM, TRULY OPERATE AS A RESTAURANT. UM, THE OTHER THING I WANNA MENTION, UM, THE ONE THING THAT'S UM, I'M GONNA SAY NOT ALIGNED WITH THE REQUEST IS THAT STAFF, UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REMAIN OPEN UNTIL 2:00 AM ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. AND [00:15:01] STAFF IS, IS RECOMMENDING THAT THEY OPERATE NO LATER THAN MIDNIGHT. UM, DUE TO THE CURRENT, UM, HOURS OF OPERATION FOR SURROUNDING BUSINESSES, UM, ALMOST ALL OF THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF THIS PARTICULAR SITE. UM, EXCEPT FOR ONE CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT OR BEFORE. UM, AND SO IT'S VERY A UNIQUE CONDITION FOR THIS AREA THAT WE WOULD HAVE A, A BUSINESS OPEN THAT LATE. UM, THEN ONE THING I ALSO WANNA MENTION, AND THAT THIS WAS NOT POSTED NOR INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, UM, THIS AFTERNOON, I BELIEVE IT WAS APPROXIMATELY 4:00 PM THE APPLICANT DID, UM, EMAIL US THAT HAS BEEN PUT NEAR ONEDRIVE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT THIS ITEM BE POSTPONED UNTIL THE NOVEMBER MEETING. UM, WHICH I WILL ALSO NOTE WE HAVE NOT SET A RESCHEDULED DATE ON THAT YET. SO IT WOULD BE RESCHEDULED UNTIL A, A FUTURE MEETING. ANY QUESTIONS? I, I KNOW THIS IS REALLY CODE COMPLIANCE STUFF. SURE. BUT IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE OWNER OR THE APPLICANT REALIZES, I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT THE FLOOR PLAN. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS PROBABLY NOT FINAL, BUT I MEAN THIS IS REALLY AN SUP THING, BUT THEY'VE GOTTA HAVE AN ELEVATOR. IF THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A A ROOFTOP, THEY CAN'T ENCLOSE THOSE THINGS. 'CAUSE I'VE HAD THIS HAPPEN BEFORE WHERE THEY COME IN AND PUT SHEETS ON THOSE EXTERIOR PATIOS AND FIRE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T LIKE THAT. UH, ALL HAVE TO BE SPRINKLED UP THERE. THERE'S JUST A BUNCH OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO, THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND. YEAH. SO, UM, THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO PUT AN ELEVATOR IN. WE DID REVIEW THIS WITH BUILDING CODE AND THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO PUT AN ELEVATOR BECAUSE ALL OF THE AMENITIES PROVIDED ON THE SECOND FLOOR ARE ALREADY PROVIDED ON THE FIRST PATIO BASED ON AADA A COMPLIANCE. YOU'RE NOT, THAT'S NOT THE SAME USE YOU, YOU WILL FAIL A DA. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THINK. YEAH. MAY THE BUILDING CODE ITSELF MIGHT NOT REQUIRE IT, BUT A DA WILL. OKAY. YEAH. AND SO, AND ALSO SAY WE DO NOT, UH, WE DO NOT REVIEW FOR AADA A MM-HMM . WE REQUIRE THAT ALL PROJECTS BE RAD UH, REGISTERED WITH TS, WHICH IS THE TEXAS ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS. IS THAT CORRECT? MM-HMM . RIGHT. AND D UM, I WAS LIKE, I WAS LIKE, I USUALLY USE THE ACRONYM, UM, AND THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO GET A RAZ INSPECTOR 'CAUSE THE PROJECT'S OVER $50,000. SO WE DO REQUIRE THAT THEY HAVE A RAZ INSPECTOR SIGN OFF ON THE PROJECT, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT BUILDING CODE WOULD REQUIRE. OKAY. WELL IT WON'T PASS. YEAH. AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS, UM, THE ROOF FLOWS. HAVE THEY, THEY HAVE A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT REMODEL TO DO BECAUSE THE FLOOR LOADS AND ROOF LOADS ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. CORRECT. OKAY. JUST FYI THE APPLICANT HAS SAID THAT THEY'VE CO COMPLETED AN, UH, ENGINEERING ASSESSMENT TO CONFIRM THAT. AND SORRY. AND ALL THE OTHER THING IS I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SEPARATE LIKE SMOKING, NON-SMOKING SECTIONS IF IT'S ON THE INTERIOR OF THIS BUILDING. THAT IS NOT WHAT OUR SMOKING ORDINANCE FOR THE TOWN REQUIRES. WHAT DOES IT REQUIRE? IT REQUIRES THAT THERE AREAS MUST BE SEPARATED BY AT LEAST FOUR FEET OF CONTINUOUS SPACE WITH NO PHYSICAL BOUNDARY, WITH NO VISIBLE PHYSICAL. PHYSICAL. THAT IS WHAT OUR CURRENT CODE SAYS. OUR SMOKING ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED IN THE SIXTIES. I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING FROM BACK IN 88, 86. I DON'T BELIEVE SO FOR REFERENCE, OUR SMOKING ORDINANCE ALLOWS SMOKING IN HOSPITALS AS LONG AS THE PATIENT SAYS IT'S OKAY. . SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING FOUR FEET, IF THEY'D LIKE OKAY. ANY PLACE IN THERE, IF YOU HAVE A TABLE THAT'S FOUR FEET FROM ANOTHER TABLE, THEY CAN SMOKE THERE. CORRECT. LITERALLY DID THE SAME THING WITH US. IT'S ON OUR GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT'S ON OUR LIST. 'CAUSE I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING, IT'S ON OUR LIST OF THINGS TO UPDATE. OKAY. . SO YEAH, I, I GOT A COUPLE THINGS. ELEVATOR'S A REALLY GOOD POINT. I HADN'T CONSIDERED THAT THAT'S A BIG DEAL TO ME. THE LATE NIGHT HOURS IS LESS OF A BIG DEAL 'CAUSE THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL THERE. MM-HMM . UM, I THINK THERE'S A HOTEL, UM, I GUESS YOU CAN CHARGE A CHEAPER RATE ON THE ROOMS FACING THE BACK PARKING LOT IF, IF IT, BUT I'M NOT REALLY CONCERNED WITH THAT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, BEING OPEN TILL 2:00 AM ON A COUPLE NIGHTS A WEEK IS OKAY. I BELIEVE ASTORIA IS OPEN TILL ONE OR TWO ON THE WEEKENDS AND I LOVE IT THERE AND SO DOES EVERYBODY ELSE. SO I I, I WOULD BE WILLING TO REMOVE THAT, UM, FROM A, FROM THE CONDITIONS. UM, AND YEAH, HOOKAH IS NOT GOOD FOR YOU, BUT NEITHER IS DRINKING AT A BAR. AND WE APPROVE A LOT OF BAR [00:20:01] . WE APPROVE A LOT OF BARS OF LATE NIGHT HOURS. SO I, I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD TARGET A HOOKAH LOUNGE SPECIFICALLY WITH THAT RESTRICTION, BUT WE DON'T IN THIS AREA. HMM. WE DON'T IN THIS AREA. WE DON'T WHAT APPROVE A LOT OF BARS AT TWO, 2:00 AM EVERYBODY CLOSES AT 12. WELL, YEAH, BUT I MEAN, IT'S ADDISON'S STILL ONLY FOUR SQUARE MILES. LIKE YOU COULD, YOU COULD WALK TO A BAR THAT'S OPEN UNTIL 2:00 AM FROM THIS AREA. UM, SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? JUST ONE THING. WHAT, WHEN YOU, WHEN IT COMES BACK, WHY, WHY DIDN'T, TYPICALLY ON THESE THINGS WHERE YOU HAVE OUTDOOR PATIO, YOU GUYS ALWAYS HAVE A REQUIREMENT OR STIPULATION THAT NO LOUD MUSIC AFTER 10 O'CLOCK OR SOMETHING. MM-HMM . THERE'S A, THERE'S A A TIME LIMIT WHERE YOU HAVE TO SHUT THAT OFF. WHY WASN'T IT ON? I DIDN'T NOTICE IT ON THERE. YEAH. SO THE UDC ACTUALLY, UM, PROVIDED STANDARDS FOR THAT. SO, OKAY. WE DON'T NE SO IT'S ALREADY COVERED IN OUR BASE CODE, SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED IT FOR THE SUP. WE CAN WE, I'D BE HAPPY TO ADD IT FOR CLARITY, BUT IT WOULDN'T, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HURT . YEAH, WE DEFINITELY CAN. I MEAN JUST, I MEAN THE, HUH, PLEASE. YEAH. YEAH. OH, ACTUALLY ONE MORE QUESTION. SO LET'S SAY I WAS WRONG AND BEING OPEN UNTIL 2:00 AM IS PEOPLE ARE MAD. CAN WE CHANGE THE SUP OR REVOKE IT THROUGH ANY MEANS AND UPDATE THE HOURS? OR IS IT SUP IS GRANTED THEY HAVE IT YEAH. UNTIL THE OWNER IS GRANTED. SO IT'S ZONING, IT'S, IT'S A ZONING ENTITLEMENT. AH, OKAY. SO, UM, GOES WITH THE PROPERTY. IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE VERY PRETTY UH, FAIRLY CHALLENGING TO GO THROUGH A, UH, A PROCESS. A STAFF INITIATED A PROCESS TO REVOKE IT. GOT IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, UH, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS A ZONING REQUEST FOR A, UM, A REZONING FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT JUMP FORWARD HERE. UM, THIS IS FOR, UH, PROPERTY OFF, UM, FRONT THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY, UM, AND IS BORDERED OFF ON THE NORTH BY EXCEL PARKWAY AND ADDISON ROAD. THIS REQUEST IS FOR A PD REZONING TO A BASE DISTRICT OF THE MIXED USE SUBURBAN CORRIDOR OR M TWO DISTRICT. THAT'S ONE OF THE NEW DISTRICTS IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. UM, AND THIS PROJECT WOULD BE FOR A COMBINATION OF, UH, FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES AND MULTIFAMILY. UM, THE UNIT COUNTS, UH, JUST HIGH LEVEL WOULD BE ON TRACK ONE, WHICH I APOLOGIZE, THIS SEEMS A LITTLE BIT DIFF UH, BACKWARDS, BUT TRACK ONE IS, IS THE MULTIFAMILY. IT'S ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THAT FRONTS DIRECTLY TO THE D AND T. IT'S A FIVE STORY BUILDING, 299 UNITS. AND THEN THE CORRESPONDING TRACK TWO WOULD BE, UH, IT WAS ENVISIONED TO DEVELOP UNDER THE M TWO BASE STANDARDS WITH 118 FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES. SO ANY, UH, INITIAL QUESTIONS? I I HAVE A QUESTION. SURE. IF WE APPROVE THE ZONING TO M TWO MM-HMM . IS THERE ANY REQUIREMENT ON THE DEVELOPER TO NOT CHANGE THEIR MIND AND NOT BUILD THE FEE SIMPLE HOMES? SURE. SO, UM, AS WHEN WE GIVE THEM BY, RIGHT. WHEN THEY THEN BY HAVE RIGHT TO, SO, UH, A COUPLE THINGS. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE DEVELOPMENT, THE PERMITTED USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, TRACK TWO ONLY ALLOWS TWO LAND USES. AND THAT IS A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED AND SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED FOR TOWN HOMES. AND THEN THE TRACK ONE IS ALL USES ALLOWED WITHIN M TWO. SO THEORETICALLY THEY COULD DEVELOP MULTIFAMILY OR, UH, WELL THAT'S WHAT THESE DEVELOPMENT PLANS SHOW. BUT, UM, THEY COULD COME BACK AND GET APPROVAL FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENT PLANS TO, UH, CONSTRUCT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF USE THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN M TWO. UM, SO THAT, BUT THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, SORRY, I'M GONNA JUMP AHEAD HERE. THE, THERE ARE, UM, SOME CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDING. AND WHAT THIS DOES IS, UM, PROVIDES WOULD BE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, UM, LEADING INTO SOME SORT OF MA OR TO A MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER IN THE TOWN TO ENSURE THAT THE TOWN HOMES, THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES GET CONSTRUCTED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MULTIFAMILY. SO WE DON'T END UP WITH ONE AND NOT THE OTHER. BUT DIDN'T WE DO THAT AT ADDISON GROVE? AND THAT HASN'T WORKED OUT SO WELL? YEAH, SO WE DID IT WITH AMLI TREE HOUSE. NO, I THINK ADDISON GROVE WAS A COMPONENT AS WELL TOO. I THINK THEY WAS, BUT I THINK THE WAY THEY WORDED IT WAS THEY HAD TO START 'EM TOGETHER OR SOMETHING. THERE WAS NO PERCENTAGE OF BUILDING THAT ONE. THAT ONE IS NO FEE. SIMPLE WAS NOT TIED TO BEING COMPLETED. SO THE APARTMENTS GET ALL DONE. THEY BARELY DID ANY OF THE TOWN HOMES. AND HERE WE ARE TODAY. HOW MANY OVER YEARS LATER. YEAH, SO THAT ONE IS, UM, THERE'S THAT, THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT'S A BIT MORE COMPLEX 'CAUSE THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FINANCIAL INCENTIVES INVOLVED AS WELL. UM, AND THERE WERE, THERE WERE, UM, TRIGGERS FOR RELEASING OF THE FUNDS. THERE [00:25:01] WAS THREE PHASES AND UM, I BELIEVE THE FIRST PHASE WAS LIKE 30%. THE SECOND PHASE WAS LIKE 50 MAYBE. AND SO THEY HAD TO HIT THOSE TARGETS OF COMPLETION OF THE TOWN HOMES IN ORDER TO GET THE, THE BUT BUT NO TIMING TIED, TIED TO THIS. CORRECT. YEAH. THAT WAS THE FLAW. YEAH. SO MY, MY CONCERN, UM, AND WHY I'D PROBABLY PREFER TO TA TABLE THIS IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE FLESH OUT OF THE TIMING AND CONSTRUCTION PERFORMANCE STANDARDS PRIOR TO US AGREEING TO, UM, TO GO AHEAD AND REZONE. SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LOT, IN A LOT MORE DETAIL BEFORE I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE JUST SAYING. SURE. UM, AND I JUST WANNA NOTE THAT, UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS NOT PRIVY TO THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. SO THAT WOULD NOT COME BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION. SO DO YOU WANT TO PULL THE STATS I ASKED YOU TO PULL NOW OR DO YOU WANT 'EM AT THE OTHER MEETING INSTEAD? I HAVE 'EM ALL IN THE PRESENTATION. CAN YOU, CAN YOU PULL THAT? SURE. I I ASKED THEM TO PULL LIKE WHAT KIND OF FEE? SIMPLE TOWN HOMES WE ALREADY HAVE APPROVED BUILT. YEAH. SO I'M GUESSING YOU PROBABLY COULDN'T HAVE DONE SOLD, BUT YEAH. SO THIS IS, SO THESE, UH, EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN BLUE IS ON THIS SLIDE IN THE FOLLOWING ARE, UM, THIS IS, UH, EXISTING, UM, EXCUSE ME, FEE SIMPLE. THAT IS IN PROCESS. THIS IS OWNERSHIP PRODUCT THAT'S IN, UM, THAT HAS BEEN ENTITLED, THAT IS IN PROCESS AT VARIOUS STAGES. SO SOME OF IT'S BEEN ENTITLED AND NOT PERMITTED. SOME OF IT'S BEEN PERMITTED, SOME OF IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN THE ONLY ITEM WHICH IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE TOTAL COUNTS IS THE PENDING COUNCIL ITEM. BUT I PUT IT ON HERE FOR REFERENCE. SO THIS 28 FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES IS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT OVERALL NUMBER, BUT I WANTED TO ADD IT FOR REFERENCE OF THINGS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE. OKAY. UM, OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO, SO MY VERY, VERY QUICK MATH IS 150 ISH PLUS AVAILABLE, NOT INCLUDING THE 28 MAYBE, IS MY MATH A LITTLE OFF? I'M TRYING TO DO THE 70, 80 SOMETHING AT THAT ONE. ANOTHER A HUNDRED THERE PUTS YOU AT OVER A HUNDRED, MAYBE 107, ALMOST 200. YEAH, I THINK IT'S 206 THAT ARE CURRENTLY OR WITHIN A VERY SHORT TIMEFRAME GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO BUY IN ADDISON. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR PULLING THAT INFORMATION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? WHEN WAS THE PD PUT IN PLACE? I DIDN'T, I I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. WHEN, WHEN DID WE APPROVE THE, THE CURRENT ZONING? YEAH. UH, IN 2020, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS OCTOBER OF 2020. THAT WAS FOR SENIOR HOUSING? CORRECT. AND WAS THAT, UH, I WAS THAT THIS SAME DEVELOPER OR A DIFFERENT DEVELOPER? SO IT WAS, SO IT WAS, UM, COLLEAGUE PARTNERS WORKED ON THAT PROJECT. RIGHT. HOWEVER, IT WAS A, THERE WAS A DEVELOPER LINED UP TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT AND UM, AFTER ZONING IT WAS DETERMINED IT WASN'T FINANCIALLY VIABLE. UH, AND IT NEVER WAS DEVELOPED OBVIOUSLY. AND THEN FOR, SINCE THEN, UH, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A, THERE'S A SIGN ON THERE. YEAH, THERE'S A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS. I, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT AT LEAST THE LAST TWO TO THREE YEARS, UM, ADVERTISING AND NO VIABLE PROJECTS HAVE COME FORWARD FOR SENIOR HOUSING. THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO EXPLORED OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, UH, DESTINATION, RETAIL DESTINATION, ENTERTAINMENT. UM, AND BASED UPON THE, I'M GONNA SAY THE BROADER SENTIMENT OF THE COMMUNITY, WHICH WAS MORE OWNERSHIP HOUSING THE APPLICANT PURSUED, UH, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDED TOWN HOMES. IS THERE ANY WAY FOR US TO, TO PHASE UM, A REDEVELOPMENT HERE? AGAIN, I'M GOING BACK TO WE'D LIKE TO GET THE FEE SIMPLE PRODUCT, UM, SOONER RATHER THAN LATER AND NOT HAVE IT SEVERAL YEARS LATER. UM, I THINK IS THE GENERAL CONSENSUS THAT I'VE KIND OF HEARD FROM SEVERAL PEOPLE. IS THERE ANY WAY FOR US TO AFFECT SUCH A PROCESS THROUGH ZONING? UM, YES AND NO. UM, SO SOME OF IT WE COULD DO VIA ZONING, BUT A LOT OF THAT WOULD LIKELY BE THROUGH A MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO, UM, 'CAUSE, 'CAUSE FOR PHASING WE CAN, WE CAN TRIGGER, UM, IN MOST, IT'S MOST COMMON TO TRIGGER SEQUENCING, BUT NOT NECESSARILY, UH, YOU KNOW, DEADLINES FOR COMPLETION OR DEADLINES FOR STARTING OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THOSE THINGS WOULD BE, UM, INCLUDED IN THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. SO LESLIE, I'VE GOT ONE. UM, THE, SO IT'S MIXED USE M TWO. IS THERE ANY MIXED USE IN THE APARTMENT SPOT? UH, ANY LIKE SMALL RETAIL STORES CURRENTLY? THERE IS NOT. THERE IS, UM, JUST AMENITY SPACE THAT'S FOR THE APARTMENT COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT FOR EXTERNAL USERS. FOR EXTERNAL USE. HAS THE, THE APPLICANT OR THE OWNERS DISCUSSED WHY THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE [00:30:01] ANY OF THAT THERE, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S ZONING MIXED USE OR, UM, HAS IT JUST NOT EVEN COME UP? UM, I, I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT, UH, GROUND FLOOR RETAIL ON A MULTIFAMILY CAN STRUGGLE SIGNIFICANTLY. IT CAN, UM, AND I THINK IT WAS MORE OF A, A MARKET DRIVEN DECISION, BUT THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AND CAN SPEAK TO THAT FURTHER IN THE REGULAR MEETING. COOL. WILL DO. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . LESLIE, A QUESTION ABOUT UM, ADDISON ROAD RIGHT THERE. YEAH. ARE THERE ANY IMPROVEMENTS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S ACCESS RIGHT TO ADDISON ROAD, ARE THERE ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE SL THAT PORTION OF ADDISON? THANK YOU. . SO NOT THE ROADWAY ITSELF. THEY DID COMPLETE A TIA. THE TIA DID NOT, UM, RECOMMEND ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROADWAYS. HOWEVER, THE, THE, THIS PROJECT WILL NEED TO BRING THE, UM, STREETSCAPE INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN. AND GENERALLY WHAT THAT INCLUDES IS A, A LANDSCAPE BUFFER WITH A UM, A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG ADDISON ROAD AND THAT WOULD RUN THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CONNECTIVITY OPTIONS 'CAUSE THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, UM, ARE OLDER AND DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS. BUT, UH, WHEN REDEVELOPMENT WOULD OCCUR WITH THIS PROJECT OR ANY OTHER PROJECTS, WE WOULD SEE THAT CONNECTIVITY TO EXPAND. YEAH, I WOULD JUST BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. MM-HMM . THAT WOULD, IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT THAT MANY PEOPLE RIGHT THERE, THE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THERE. SO YEAH. LESLIE, COULD YOU ZOOM IN ON TRACK ONE? THE, UM, THE UH, BUILDING PLAN I THINK, CAN YOU ZOOM IN? CAN YOU USE THE LITTLE ZOOM IN TOOL IN THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER? YEAH. UH, THE MULTIFAMILY. YEAH, THERE YOU GO. SO ARE THEY PROPOSING, UM, STREET PARKING OR ANY YES. PARKING OUTSIDE THE GARAGE? , I THINK YOU COULD GO FURTHER. THERE WERE, YES, THERE ARE SEVEN, UM, SURFACE PARKING SPACES, UH, FOR THE MULTIFAMILY ON TRACK ONE. AND THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE PARKING THAT'S NOT WITHIN THE GARAGE. AND THOSE ARE LOCATED, UH, WHERE THE CURSOR IS, WHICH IS GENERALLY ON THE, THE NORTH, UH, WEST CORNER OF THE BUILDING OR NORTHWEST FACADE. AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE OF IT ON THE PLAN IS THEY IDENTIFY PRIVATE, UM, UH, YARDS. MM-HMM . UM, HOW ARE THOSE FENCED? UM, SO THOSE WILL FOLLOW ARE THE M TWO DISTRICT STANDARDS, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A, UM, UH, ONE OF OUR APPROVED FENCE MATERIALS, SO LIKELY SOME SORT OF TUBULAR METAL. UM, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE A, UM, NEUTRAL COLOR AND THEY MUST BE, UM, OPAQUE. I BELIEVE IT'S 50% OR LESS, OR 50% OR MORE. MM-HMM . OKAY. THANK YOU. QUICK QUESTION, DO WE HAVE SUFFICIENT UTILITIES TO THIS SITE RIGHT NOW? WE DO, YES. TO HANDLE MM-HMM . THIS PARTICULAR NUMBER OF HOUSES, APARTMENTS, IF THAT'S WHERE WE GO. OKAY. AND ARE ALL THOSE ALL THE ROADS ARE PUTTING IN OR ALL PRIVATE? CORRECT. OKAY. I ACTUALLY DO MORE CONNECTIVITY QUESTIONS. SO YEAH, IT'S ALL PRIVATE ROADS, THE ADJACENT LOTS. I THINK ONE OF THEM IS, UM, THE, THE APARTMENT COMMUNITY THERE. VENT TREE TO THE SOUTH VENT ENTRY. EXCUSE ME. YEAH. AND THEN THERE'S A KIND OF AN OFFICE BUILDING OP KIND OF THE SOUTH OR YES. THIS, YEAH, THAT'S ACTUALLY, UM, UH, THAT'S A, A ONE HANOVER PLACE. RIGHT. THAT WAS ACTUALLY INTENDED TO BE AT ONE POINT IN TIME THE SISTER BUILDING TO THIS PARTICULAR SITE. RIGHT. UM, THAT WAS ENTITLED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. GOTCHA. SO THERE'S NO ACCESS FROM THERE. IT'S ONLY FROM ADDISON ROAD AND NO, NO WEST GROVE ACCESS, LIKE IF YOU WENT THE LONG WAY, THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT. THERE IS ONLY ACCESS, THERE'S TWO POINTS OF ACCESS OFF OF THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY FRONTAGE ROAD, UM, AT KIND OF, AT EITHER POINTS OF THE BUILDING AND THEN THERE IS ONE ACCESS POINT ON ADDISON ROAD. OKAY. AND THERE'S GONNA BE A FENCE THERE OR CAN, CAN AN ENTERPRISING PEDESTRIAN JUST WALK ACROSS THE, THE LOT? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THOSE ACCESS POINTS? NO, NOT THE ACCESS POINTS. IF I WANT TO GET TO WEST GROVE, 'CAUSE SAY I WANTED TO GET TO A HYPOTHETICAL BIKE LANE. UM, IS THERE A WAY I CAN WALK THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE GOING DOWN ADDISON ROAD? UM, I'M JUST THINK IN THE FUTURE HERE, LIKE YOU WANNA WALK THROUGH THE, I WANNA CUT THROUGH THE PROPERTY YOU WANNA CUT AND TO, TO GET TO THE D AND T FRONTAGE, ROAD TO WALK. YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO GO ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD. I WANT TO GO THROUGH EITHER BENT TREE OR ONE HAM IN PLACE, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED TO GET TO WEST GROVE. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY INTERNAL CONNECTIVITY. GOTCHA. WELL THERE'S NO, I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S NO INTERNAL CONNECTIVITY PLANNED ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT I ALSO, THERE'S NO INTERNAL CONNECTIVITY TO CONNECT INTO. GOTCHA. SO THAT IS THE OTHER ISSUE. AND UH, I RECOGNIZE THAT'S DICEY. I WON'T, I WON'T BOTHER YOU ABOUT THAT ONE. NOW WHAT'S STOPPING US, AND THIS IS JUST FOR MY CURIOSITY, I'M NOT GONNA BELABOR THE POINT. WHAT'S STOPPING US FROM JUST [00:35:01] BUILDING SIDEWALKS ON BEN TREE AND CONNECTING THE REST OF ADDISON ROAD? I KNOW IT'S A REDEVELOPMENT THING. YEAH. COULD, IS IT POSSIBLE TO, IF THE TOWN SAID I JUST WANNA FUND SOME SIDEWALKS, COULD WE JUST DO THAT? UM, YES. OKAY. THERE IS, UH, IT COULD BE A POTENTIALLY A LENGTHY PROCESS. SO WE WOULD EITHER HAVE TO ACQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY LIKELY. UM, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT IN DEPTH, BUT MY INITIAL ASSUMPTION ASSUMPTIONS WOULD BE WE EITHER HAVE TO ACQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY OR ACQUIRE A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS EASEMENT. OKAY. AND MAINTENANCE EASEMENT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER. UM, THEN WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO CONSTRUCT IT. UM, AND I TO, TO BE FRANK, I DON'T KNOW IF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS WOULD ALLOW US TO CONSTRUCT IT TO THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION STANDARDS. 'CAUSE THAT REQUIRES, UM, IT'S EITHER A FIVE OR SIX FOOT BUFFER, LANDSCAPE BUFFER PLUS A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK. UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD EVEN HAVE ROOM TO ACHIEVE THAT. AND I CAN'T SPEAK FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE OF IF WE WOULD FUND THAT OR NOT. RIGHT. BUT CAN WE TRY TO MOVE ON? YEAH, NO, I'M ALL DONE. THANK YOU. TO GET TO YEAH. WORK SESSION. SURE. AND SURE. ONE MORE POINT. UM, AS LONG IT'S ABOUT THIS , I'M SURPRISED FIRE DEPARTMENT AND, UM, SAFETY HAS APPROVED ONLY ONE ENTRANCE OFF OF ADDISON ROAD IN THIS CASE. IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF A PROBLEM RIGHT THERE, THEY'RE BLOCKED AND THEY CAN'T GET IN. SO, SO THEY, UM, THEY WILL HAVE THROUGH ACCESS. SO THEY, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT HAS TECHNICALLY THREE POINTS OF ACCESS IF THEY GET TO THE TALL ROAD. CORRECT. SO IF FOR SOME REASON THEY COULDN'T ACCESS ADDISON ROAD, THEY, OR LIKE A, THAT ENTRANCE POINT, THEY WOULD GO UP TO EXCEL AND AROUND TO THIS. THEY WOULD LOOP AROUND THE SITE. OH, OKAY. YOU'VE GOT EXCEL THAT COMES ALL THE WAY THROUGH, CORRECT? YEAH, THAT THE, THE OKAY. THERE'S EXCEL PARKWAY AT THE TOP. GOT IT. SORRY. YOU'RE RIGHT. YEP. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. PERFECT. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UM, CONSIDERATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH, UM, IF THE COMMISSION'S COMFORTABLE WITH IT, WE CAN DELAY THAT PRESENTATION, UM, UNTIL THE REGULAR MEETING. PERFECT. YEAH. DELAY THE PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. WITH THAT, WE WILL CLOSE THE WORK SESSION AND REGATHER IN FIVE MINUTES TO START THE REGULAR SESSION. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.