[1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present.]
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IT IS FIVE 30 AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 14TH, 2025.
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT THIS EVENING WITH ALL MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE, UH, AT THE TOWN HALL TODAY.
UM, FIRST ITEM WE HAVE WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA OR NOT ON THE AGENDA.
IT'S, UH, ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS TO DO THAT THIS EVENING.
I DON'T HAVE ANY APPEARANCE CARDS.
IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
[3. Council Member Clarification Requests Regarding Consent Agenda Items. ]
WILL CLOSE THAT PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, COUNCIL MEMBER CLARIFICATION REQUESTS REGARDING CONSENT TO AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION NEED NEEDED FROM, UH, COUNCIL ON CONSENT ITEMS? CONSENT ITEMS FOR THE WORK SESSION OR THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR, FOR THE WORK SESSION, NOT THE COUNCIL MEETING? UH, WELL, THE, THE CONSENT'S ONLY ON, ON THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UM, A FEW OF THE ITEMS PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
WELL, SO THEN WE CAN DO THAT DURING THE REGULAR MEETING.
THIS IS JUST FOR QUESTIONS ON, FOR OUR CLARIFICATION NEEDED ON ANY OF THOSE.
HOWARD, DID YOU HAVE ANY, I HAD A QUESTION ON IN, IS THIS THE FIRE ENGINE THAT WE APPROVED LAST YEAR FOR 2.7 OR IS THIS A DIFFERENT, THIS WAS APPROVED IN A BUDGET FY 26 BUDGET AT THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS THAT WE JUST HAD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION ON CONSENT ITEMS? ALL RIGHT, THEN MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE A, COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL SENDS THE STAFF, UH, REGARDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
THOSE ITEMS ARE, UH, THOSE QUESTIONS ARE RESPONDED TO BY STAFF PUT INTO A DOCUMENT AND CONSOLIDATED ALL INTO ONE DOCUMENT SENT OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THAT SAME DOCUMENT IS UPLOADED TO THE, TO THE TOWN WEBSITE.
SO ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CAN GO TO THE TOWN WEBSITE, ADDISON TX.GOV AND FIND THE AGENDA.
AND THERE WILL BE, BE A LINK IN THE AGENDA TO THAT Q AND A DOCUMENT.
ALRIGHT, SO ITEM FOUR, WE, WE'LL GO BEFORE WE GO INTO ITEM FOUR, WORK SESSION REPORTS.
WELL ACTUALLY I GUESS IT'S PART OF THE WORK SESSION REPORT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO A CLOSED SESSION, UH, AN UNSCHEDULED CLOSED SESSION TO CONSULT WITH OUR ATTORNEY REGARDING THE BREAK ITEM SIX A IN OUR REGULAR, UH, REGULAR MEETING AGENDA.
SO IT IS 5 33 AND WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THIS TIME CAN.
IT IS SIX 15 AND WE ARE COMING BACK INTO OPEN SESSION FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION AND THERE'S NO COUN UH, NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN BY COUNCIL FROM
[a. Present and discuss adding a public safety component to the Rental & Lodging Registration Program for hotels and motels based on a calculated Call for Service (CFS) ratio per room.]
OUR CLOSED SESSION.SO WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR WORK SESSION REPORTS.
ITEM FOUR A PRESENT AND DISCUSS ADDING A PUBLIC SAFETY COMPONENT TO THE RENTAL AND LODGING REGISTRATION PROGRAM FOR HOTELS AND MOTELS BASED ON A CALCULATED CALL FOR SERVICE C-P-S-C-F-S RATIO PER ROOM.
CHIEF FREEZE NAME, MAYOR COUNSEL, CHRIS FREEZE, CHIEF OF POLICE.
UM, TONIGHT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING, UM, MASS AND HOTEL SAFETY RESOURCE ALLOCATION AND LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY ADDING THIS TO OUR CURRENT TION.
SO WHY ARE WE HERE TONIGHT? JUST WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF BACKGROUND OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.
DEPART WARRANT FOR LOCAL HOTELS TO ADDRESS YOUR RECURRING ISSUES, UH, THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT PUBLIC SAFETY PD.
ONE OF THE INITIATIVES WAS THE CREATION OF THE HOTEL BUSINESS RE CONTINUED, UM, THAT WORKED WITH, UH, OUR PROPERTIES AND WOULD GO IN AND ADDRESS, UH, CONCERNS EITHER BY PROVIDING EDUCATION, UM, GOING IN AND GETTING TIPS OF HOW TO IDENTIFY CERTAIN CRIMINAL BEHAVIORS AND THEN PROVID, UH, THOSE AVENUES WHERE THEY COULD CONTACT HIS FIRM TO HELP RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES.
UM, HBO FOUND SUCCESS WITH SOME PROPERTIES.
UM, OTHER PROPERTIES WERE PRETTY RESISTANT IN THE REFERENCE.
UM, CURRENTLY THERE'S NO MECHANISM IN PLACE FROM PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT WHERE WE CAN ADDRESS THESE ONGOING ISSUES.
UH, SOME LOCATIONS CONTINUE TO CONSUME DIS DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT, PUBLIC SAFETY RESOURCES THEN, UH, PLACE, UM, AN ONGOING BURDEN ON BOTH THE DEPARTMENT AND MR. SO JUST LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE DATA OF LAST 12 MONTHS, AND I DON'T WANNA JUMP AHEAD A FEW SLIDES, BUT I WANTED DEFINE ON CALL FOR SERVICE FOR THE PURPOSE OF HOW WE FUEL THIS DATA.
WE WILL BE OFF, OFF POLICE AND FIRE CALLS OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS AND WE EXCLUDED ANY CALL THAT ORIGINATED FROM THE PROPERTY.
I'LL EXPLAIN THAT TO HIM A LITTLE BIT WHEN WE GET INTO THE PROPOSED S AND WHY WE THINK THAT'S POINT.
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HOTEL PROPERTIES, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 2015 HOMES PER, WHICH AVERAGES ABOUT 92 CALLS PER SERVICE PER LOCATION.UH, AND OUT OF OUR 22 PROPERTIES, FOUR PROPERTIES COUNT FOR 57% OF OUR TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE, WHICH IS ABOUT 1,156.
SO WHAT ARE WE CURRENTLY DOING? UM, WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON OUR HOTEL PROPERTIES TO ADDRESS ISSUES AT THE LOCATION.
UM, THIS INCLUDES WORKING WITH, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT AND
SO WE HAVE THOSE COMMUNICATIONS, BOTH ACCOUNT STAFF, SO WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE APPROPRIATELY.
UM, OFFICER FOSTER IS OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OFFICER.
HE GOES TO THESE PROPERTIES, PROVIDES, UH, INFORMATIONAL PAMPHLETS, HOW THEY CAN LOOK AT REDUCING CRIME AND THEIR PROPERTIES EITHER THROUGH
UH, WE ALSO HAVE OUR COMMUNITY RESPONSE TEAM.
THIS IS A NEWLY FOREIGN HUMAN OFFICERS THAT FOCUS ON SYSTEMIC PROLONGED ISSUES WITHIN TOWN AS TO NOT BURDEN ON PATROL OFFICERS.
SO ALL OF THESE AVENUES,
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS ESTABLISHING TIER FOR HOTEL VOTES ARE BASED ON A DEDICATED CALL FOR SERVICE MURDER RATIO.
UH, WE WOULD CATEGORIZE THE DATA, UH, OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS, UM, AND THERE WILL BE REQUIREMENTS AND CONSEQUENCES TO ESCALATE WITH THE HIGHER TIERS.
UH, HOTELS AND MOTELS ARE ABLE TO MOVE UP AND DOWN TIERS IMMEDIATELY AND ALSO PROVIDES AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS WITH THE CLASSIFICATION AND ACCOUNT CAN REVOKE AND A STRICTLY OUT THE OCCUPANCY FOR REPEATED FAILURE TO COMPLY PROGRAM.
SO LET'S SAY THAT EARLIER I MENTIONED THAT CALL FOR SERVICE.
WHAT THAT IS IS ANY, IT'S DEFINED AS ANY CALL, UM, FOR EMERGENCY SERVICE RESULTS IN THE COUNTY, YOU DISPATCH
WHAT WE WANTED DO WAS EXCLUDE ANY DATA OR ANY CALLS THAT ORIGINATED FROM THE PROPERTY.
SO WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS DISCOURAGE PROPERTY OWNERS FROM CALLING 9 1 1 'CAUSE THEY THINK THEY MIGHT BE IZED THAT CALL FOR SERVICE RATIO.
UM, SO WITHIN THE PROGRAM WE PROVIDE THE OFFICERS RATIO, UH, DURING THE PROGRAM'S ANNUAL, UH, REGISTRATION.
UM, BASED ON THE DATA WE PULLED, WE FEEL THAT THE TWO TIERS ON BE TIER ONE, WHICH IS LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO ONE CALL FOR SERVICE PER ROOM.
TIER TWO WOULD BE MORE THAN ONE CALL FOR SERVICE PER ROOM.
UM, WE CAN MONITOR THE CALL FOR SERVICE ROOM RATIO ON AN ONGOING BASIS AND ALSO CHANGE THE STATS BEING TIER ONE PROPERLY DURING A CALENDAR YEAR.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA AND SEE THEY'RE TRENDING UP TO WHERE THEY WOULD BE OVER THAT THRESHOLD BEFORE THAT 12, THAT INITIAL FOUR MONTHS.
SO LOOKING AT THE, THE CURRENT DATA AGAIN, UM, THE AVERAGE CALL FOR SERVICE ROOM RATIO ACROSS TOWN IS 0.55.
CURRENTLY THERE ARE FOUR PROPERTIES, UH, THAT ARE ABOVE THE RECOMMENDED 1.0 CALL FOR SERVICE RATIO.
AND THOSE PROPERTIES RANGE FROM 1.29 TO 2.22 POLICY FOR SERVICE PROPERTY.
SO THE QUESTION RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS SHOULD WE EXPLORE ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT, UH, OPTIONS FOR HOTEL STANDARDS? IF SO, DO YOU WANT US TO PURSUE FOLLOWING POSSIBLE ENFORCEMENT OPTION IN THE ADDITION OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPONENT TO THE TOWN'S RENTAL LOD REGISTRATION PROGRAM? IF SO, THEN WE CAN BRING FORWARD TO THE CURRENT RENTAL LODGING REGISTRATION ONLY TO INCLUDE THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPONENT BASED ON DEFINED
YOUR QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS, CHRIS? I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT IT.
BUT MY, MY QUESTION IS, YOU, YOU GO THROUGH ALL THIS, RIGHT? YOU UM, YOU WERE TAKING ALL THIS INFORMATION, YOU DO THE CLASSIFICATIONS, UM, BUT THEN WHAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN I, I'VE HEARD US TALK ABOUT POOLING COS BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE SHOULD BE SOME STICK WE HAVE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE GETTING IN ONE OF THE UPPER TIERS AND POOLING.
COS HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO THAT? YEAH, SO THE WAY THAT WE ENVISION THE PROGRAM ROLLING OUT, UM, IS AS WE COME UP TO THE NEW YEAR, WE'LL HAVE 12 MONTHS OF DATA.
WE KNOW ABOUT WHERE THESE PROPERTIES ARE GONNA FALL JUST BASED ON WHAT WE PULLED.
NOW, UM, FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ABOVE THAT THRESHOLD, UM, WE CAN THEN SET AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THESE PROPERTIES YOU OUTSIDE WHERE WE NEED TO DO.
WE WILL GO AND WORK WITH IN, GIVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO HELP PULL THAT DOWN AND WE CAN BRING, RUN THOSE NUMBERS WITHIN SIX MONTHS.
THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT TRENDING WHERE THEY NEED TO BE OR IF THEY'RE STILL WHERE THEY'RE AT, THEN THE TOWN CAN START THE PROCESS OF ING THE C MOVING DOWN.
UH, IS THERE A WAY TO FIND THEM LIKE PER CALL ONCE YOU GET TO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CALLS SO THE TOWN ALREADY HAS THAT LESLIE CAN SPEAK TO WITH THE GROUND LOGIC REGISTRATION FROM THAT ASPECT? UM, FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, THE CALLS FOR SERVICE, I'M NOT SURE IF WE WANNA LOOK AT ADDING THE FINE MORE SO BECAUSE IF THEY'RE CONTINUALLY ABOVE THAT THRESHOLD, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR BOOKING THE, THE CEO AND I THINK THAT'S ESSENTIALLY CEASE THEIR OPERATIONS AND THINK IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN WHAT A DAILY DEFINE.
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MONETARILY MIGHT BE BETTER THAN GOING TO THEM AND SAYING, HEY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN A HIGHER TIER AND THAT CONCERNS US.I FEEL LIKE I, I JUST, I FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, LOGGING IN INTO TIERS AND THEN PULLING TO SEATTLE.
SO IF I COULD, SO WHEN WE BRING THIS FORWARD, IF WE GET DIRECTION TO BRING THIS FORWARD, WE'RE GONNA BRING FORWARD OTHER UPDATES.
SO THE RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM, SOME OF THOSE CHANGES WE'LL HAVE WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME IDENTIFICATION OF YOU.
PART OF THIS PROGRAM, THERE'S A NUMBER TO CALL THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT ALSO A GRADING SYSTEM WHERE IF FROM THE OTHER PIECES OF THE REGISTRATION PROGRAM OR THIS, THERE'LL BE A GRADING SYSTEM WHERE YOU'LL SAY, HEY, YOU'RE FAILING IN THIS AND THAT SAY PUBLICLY AVAILABLE AT THE SITE.
OKAY, HERE'S OTHER STEPS BEFORE WE GET TO THE CO.
YOU GOTTA DO THAT, OBVIOUSLY WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TRY TO FIX THE ISSUES.
BUT AS FAR AS STEPS WE CAN TAKE, THAT'S ONE THAT WE PLAN ON, INCLUDING IN THE PROGRAM GOING FORWARD.
SO IT WOULD BE A WARNING LETTER AND BASICALLY A TIMELINE LIKE YOU HAVE X AMOUNT OF DAYS THAT WOULD BE INTEGRATION SYSTEM TO SAY, HEY, YOU ARE AT THIS GRADE AND THAT NEEDS TO BE NOTICED AT YOUR SITE.
AND THEN IF THEY DON'T, UH, DON'T COME INTO COMPLIANCE LIKE THEY'RE IN TIER TWO AFTER THAT POINT, THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WOULD BE TOLD THAT ULTIMATELY THAT IS A SCENARIO THAT COULD PLAY OUT.
IS THERE AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT TO THIS TO EDUCATE THE PROPERTIES ON THE TIERS? YES SIR.
I I, I'M A LITTLE FUZZY ON WHAT THE TIERS ARE MYSELF NOW.
WHAT'S GOOD, WHAT'S BAD TIER ONE, GOOD TIER ONE BAD, TIER ONE GOOD IS THAT MEANS THAT THEIR CALL OFFICERS ROOM RATIO IS
UM, ANYTHING ABOVE THAT IS CONSIDERED TIER TWO.
THERE'S AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE OF THIS.
WE'RE NOT GONNA DAY ONE FROM THAT.
WE'RE GONNA GO IN FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT BEEN IDENTIFIED AS BEING IN TIER TWO, NOTIFY THEM, WE'LL MEET WITH THEM, UM, A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OFFICER.
COMMUNITY RESPONSE TEAM GO AND SHARE TIPS OF HEY, THESE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT TO, TO REDUCE, YOU KNOW, INCIDENTS AT YOUR PROPERTY, AT YOUR LOCATION.
THE GOAL FOR THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTIES TO KIND OF DO THEIR PART OF THE HEALTH EASE.
SOME OF THAT, THAT BURDEN THAT THE TOWN'S HAVING AWARE OF BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE JUST DISPROPORTIONATE HUB.
MY OTHER QUESTION THAT I WOULD'VE ON YOUR CALL FOR SERVICE NUMBERS, UH, WITH THE DATA ITSELF, YOU SAID YOU WOULD NOT CONSIDER A CALL FROM THE PROPERTY, A CALL FOR SERVICE NOW AS FOR THE LOOKING AT THE ROOM CALL SERVICE ROOM.
SO ARE, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY CALLING OR SOMEONE THAT IS OCCUPYING A ROOM AND THEIR ROOM IS BEING BROKEN INTO? THEY'RE CALLING 9 1 1 FOR ASSISTANCE? NO, NO, THAT WOULD NOT, IT WOULD BE THE PROPERTY ORDER.
THEY'VE NOTICED SOMETHING THEY'RE PROACTIVELY CALLING.
SO IT HAS TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER NOT CALLED FOR SERVICE NUMBER THAT ARE GENERATED BY THE ROOMS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY? NO, IT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE MY ISSUE WITH THAT.
NO, IT WOULD BE THE EMPLOYEE OF THE LOCATION NOTICING SOMETHING AND THE NEED PROACTIVE CALL US TO COME TO THIS.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THAT'S WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO.
WE WANT THEM TO BE GOOD PARTNERS AND PARTNER.
LET US KNOW THERE'S AN ISSUE SO WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AT THE, BUT THE ROOM NEXT DOOR SMELLS CRACK BEING SMOKED IN THE ROOM NEXT DOOR.
THAT'S A CALL FOR SERVICE NUMBER? YES.
WHEN YOU SAY TIER ONE IS ONE CALL, IS THAT ONE PER YEAR PER ROOM? YEAH, FOR THE, FOR THE TOTAL 12 MONTH FOR THAT, YEAH.
SO THEY HAVE 400 ROOMS. 400 CALLS, YES SIR.
CAN UH, I GONNA ASK THIS QUESTION.
CAN YOU TELL US WHO THOSE FOUR PROPERTIES ARE THAT ARE SO, SO RIGHT NOW FOR THIS FIRST REVIEW JUST FOCUS ON THE DATA.
UH, WE DON'T WANT TO SAY THIS IS PROBABLY THAT PROPERTY WE'RE LOOKING THE AGGREGATE JUST BASED SOLELY ON WHAT THE DATA IS SHOWING US HOW WE'RE GONNA GO FORWARD WITH THIS, WITH THIS PROPERTY.
SO WE HAVE 22 HOTELS, SO 18 OF THEM ARE OKAY, IT'S JUST FOR PROBLEM.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THE, THAT 12 MONTHS I'VE GOT WHEN WE WANT THEM TO BE THAT ONE FOR ONE RATIO.
QUESTION SHOULD, IS THERE, HAS THERE BEEN A, HAVE YOU HEARD OF A TIER THREE? HAS THERE BEEN SUCH AN ABUSER THAT THEY GO TO A NO HOLE NEW TIER? SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE IT BROKE ME DOWN, YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT ARE ABOVE, I THINK IT WAS 1.29 TO 2.22.
OBVIOUSLY THAT 2.22 IS ABOVE, RIGHT? EVEN WITH THAT ONE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S, WE'RE REALLY JUST FOCUSING ON GETTING PEOPLE DOWN, TRAINING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO WHAT IS OR THE FALL MORE CLOSE TO THE TOWN NOW FALL THAT WOULD BE THAT CFS IS THERE PETTINESS TO A CCFS AND THERE'S SEVERITY, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, SOMEONE'S GETTING ROBBED AT GUNPOINT.
THAT'S A HIGHER YOU, YOU ASK FOR AT THAT CFS.
NO, WE, WE WE'RE PAYING ALL CALLS FOR SERVICES AND SAME BECAUSE THIS IS FROM A, A RESOURCE ALLOCATION, UM, OF WHY, YOU KNOW, US SPENDING TIME IN A CERTAIN LOCATION.
SHOULD THERE, HAS THERE BEEN IN YOUR HISTORY OF POLICING THAT YOU KNOW OF WHERE THAT CFS GETS A HIGHER LITTLE
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LOOK AT BECAUSE IT'S WAY MORE SEVERE THAN JUST A LITTLE DRINKING IN PUBLIC OR SOMETHING? FELONY VERSUS DEMEANOR? THAT'S VERY GO YEAH.I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT WE REALLY JUST WANT TO FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL, JUST THE NUMBER OF CALLS COMING OUT.
'CAUSE IF YOU START TRYING TO SAY, OKAY, WELL WE'RE GONNA GIVE MORE WEIGHT TOWARD A VERY SPECIFIC CALL, WE DON'T WANT IT TO SEEM LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET ANYTHING BECAUSE WE NOT KNOW THAT ONE LOCATION HAS MORE OF AN ONSET OF CERTAIN CALLS THAN ANOTHER LOCATION.
THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS IS WE WANNA REALLY ADDRESS CALLS FOR SERVICE AS THE RESOURCE THAT WE'RE HAVING TO EXPEND THE TOWN DUE OF ADDRESS ISSUES.
CHIEF, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY KIND OF CONSIDERATION AS TO WHETHER, UH, SAY IF IT'S A NON-EMERGENCY CALL THAT WOULD BE A CFS RIGHT.
NON-EMERGENCY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CALL A CALL IS BONAFIDE IN SOME KIND OF WAY? BECAUSE I COULD, I COULD SEE, YOU COULD IMAGINE A BUSY BODY GUESS THAT, THAT EVERYTHING'S A PROBLEM.
THEY'RE CALL, THEY COULD CALL A NUMBER OF TIMES IT REALLY CAUSE PROBLEMS AND IT'S, AND IT'S NOT REALLY A POLICE MATTER.
SO IF, IF WE DO HAVE MULTIPLE CALLS, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE SAME INCIDENT THAT'S GONNA BE CATEGORIZED FROM OFFICER SERVICE.
UM, WE'RE ALSO, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE'RE NOT COUNTING THE CALLS AT THE LOCATION
AND ALSO IF IT'S A SELF-INITIATED, SO AN OFFICER GOES AND SEES SOMETHING, ONLY THOSE CALLS THAT ITERATE IN COURT.
UM, 'CAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS OFFICERS ARE DRIVING BY AND THEY, THEY'RE LOGGING EXTRA PATROLS AND THOSE COUNTS IN ALL FOR SERVICE.
SO WHENEVER WE POUR THROUGH THE DATA WE'RE GOING THROUGH, WE'RE PULLING OUT SPECIFIC CRITERIA.
THAT WAY WE'RE ONLY REPORTING ON THE DATA THAT IS REALLY IMPACTING PUBLIC SERVICE, PUBLIC SAFETY AS THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE OF PROPERTIES TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S CONSISTENT AND EVIDENCE LOOKING AT THE SAME KIND OF, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT IN THE SPIRIT OF FAIRNESS ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT OVER BEING OVERLY HARSH.
SO IF YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE EIGHT.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE WANTING US TO GIVE YOU DIRECTION TO GO FORWARD AND THEN BRING BACK THE, THE DETAILS OF THIS PROGRAM? YES SIR.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY JUST SAID.
UH, 'CAUSE I THINK WE, WE'D LIKE TO SEE MORE DETAIL ON IT.
THE NEXT THING I I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS.
UH, CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE FIVE? UM, SO, SO WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH A DETAIL, WOULD THAT BE WHERE WE WOULD TALK ABOUT INSTEAD OF AN ANNUAL BASIS, BE ABLE TO MOVE UP DOWN ON THE TIERS ANNUAL BASIS? WE'D BE ABLE TO REQUEST MAYBE SEMI-ANNUAL EVERY SIX MONTHS OR EVERY QUARTER JUST PLACE.
SO THE ORDINANCE WE, WE BRING COULD ALLOW THE TOWN TO PULL THAT DATA AT ANY POINT IN TIME THAT WE THINK MAYBE A PROPERTY COULD BE TRENDING RIGHT BEFORE THAT 12 MONTHS.
SO IF AGAIN WORKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES ARE FIRE, YOU KNOW, WE TALK CONSTANTLY LIKE, HEY, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CALLS AT PROPERTY X.
WE CAN THEN GO AND PULL THEIR DATA AND LOOK AT IT AND SAY, HEY, IF BASED ON WHERE YOU ARE NOW AT THIS POINT OF YEAR, WE KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO END UP IN TIER TWO BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT.
WE CAN GO IN AND CONTACT THEM AND SAY, LISTEN, YOU ARE ALREADY TRENDING.
IT'S THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR, WE KNOW YOU'RE ALREADY BELOW THIS.
YOU NEED TO START COMING INTO COMPLIANCE.
HERE'S SOME THINGS YOU WISH TO COME INTO AND WE CAN ADDRESS THAT.
THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR 12 MONTHS.
AND WE KEPT THAT KIND OF BROAD ABOUT US TO DO THAT.
AND THEN WE'RE NOT REALLY TIED INTO, WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THIS TO COME IN TIME.
SO YES, ON THE UM, THE FEES, FINES AND NOTICES PART OF IT, THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE NEXT STEPS ALSO, WE'RE GONNA SEE A LITTLE MORE GRANULARITY ON THAT.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANT IT JUST TO BE FROM ZERO TO CO.
AND I WANNA HAVE THINGS IN BETWEEN TOO WHERE THEY, YEAH.
WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES ABOUT THEIR TRENDING BADLY OR TO TREND BETTER, HOW DO THEY FIX IT? ARE YOU SAYING LIKE WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO RENT A ROOM THEY SAY, WELL YOU'RE A PROSTITUTE, WE'RE NOT GONNA RENT TO YOU OR YOU'RE A DRUG DEALER.
I MEAN, HOW, HOW DO THEY FIX IT? WELL, WE CAN GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS.
LIKE I SAID, THERE'S MULTIPLE THINGS THAT ARE COMMUNIC ENGAGEMENT OFFICER CAN GO, WE CAN GET TIPS ON HEY, THIS IS NOT THE BEHAVIOR.
LOOK FOR YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING, CALL US.
THEY CAN LOOK AT MAYBE DO SITE SURVEYS AND SAY, LISTEN, YOUR LIGHTING IS OUT.
IT'D REALLY BE NICE TO BE UPDATED TO LED 'CAUSE THAT DETERS CERTAIN ACTIVITIES BUT THROUGH THE LANDSCAPING.
UM, THAT'S KIND OF THAT, UH,
THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH TO SAY, LISTEN, THESE ARE THINGS THAT YOU CAN PROACTIVELY DO THAT NOT HELP IMPACT YOUR CALL SERVICE RATIO AND LESSEN THAT BURDEN THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY CASE ON.
ULTIMATELY WHAT THEY DECIDE TO DO, THEY WANNA HIRE YOUR CROP SECURITY, NOT PEOPLE, THAT'S ALL WE CAN MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE'VE SET FORTH A PROGRAM TO SAY, LISTEN, IF YOU CONTINUE TO BE TURNING THIS WAY, LIKE WE WILL TAKE FURTHER ACTION AGAINST YOU.
SO, BUT WHO YOU TO TAKE SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO HEART AND THE COUNTY OUT? UNLESS I WOULD.
SO I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THAT QUESTION TO KIND OF STEP BACK AND ALSO SAY WHAT, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? AND IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE ALLOCATING SO MANY RESOURCES TOWARD HOTELS OVERALL.
AND THIS IS AS CHIEF MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING.
SO TO YOUR QUESTION, WE ARE HERE TO HELP THEM.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE CONVERSATIONS.
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POLICE WILL BE PROACTIVE, BUT ULTIMATELY IT IS ON THEM TO FIX IT, DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO TO GET IN COMPLIANCE.WE WILL WORK WITH 'EM, WE'LL GIVE 'EM SUGGESTIONS, SUGGESTIONS.
BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM, THEY'VE GOT TO GET BELOW THAT NUMBER AND THEY'VE GOTTA GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE NOT ALLOCATING SO MANY RESOURCES TO OUR HOTELS IN THIS TOWN.
OTHER QUESTIONS? KEITH? I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UM, ARE WE NOT HEARING ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR APARTMENTS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EXPERIENCING EXPERIENCING A HIGH NUMBER OF CALLS PER UNIT, THIRD WAYS FROM APARTMENTS? YEAH, SO APARTMENTS KIND OF SEPARATE, SEPARATE TOPIC.
UM, ONE, THEY VERY OFTEN PROACTIVELY COME TO US TO SAY, HEY, HOW CAN WE DO TO HELP YOU TO MITIGATE CERTAIN ISSUES AROUND, AROUND THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS REALLY GEARED TOWARD HOTELS SPECIFICALLY.
UM, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SUCH A DISPROPORTION FROM SOME LOCATIONS.
UM, WE'RE NOT REALLY SEEING THIS WITH THE APARTMENT CENTER.
SO WE ARE, UH, SO THIS IS FOCUSED ON HOTELS, BUT OUR PLAN AT THIS POINT IS TO HAVE THIS GO FORWARD WITH HOTELS.
IF WE GET THIS DIRECTION AND COUNCIL APPROVES IT AND THEN COME BACK AND HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION ON APARTMENTS, IT WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT.
BUT HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL, WHAT COULD THAT LOOK LIKE TO HAVE APARTMENTS ROLLED INTO THIS PROGRAM? IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL DID.
WHAT? SO WE'LL HAVE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON APARTMENTS, BUT THIS WAS JUST FOCUSED ON YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT.
WHEN, WHEN MIGHT THAT COME FORWARD? AS SOON, ROUGHLY AS SOON AS WE CAN.
I WOULD THINK IN THE SPRING, EARLY SPRING, EARLY NEXT CALENDAR YEAR.
IF YOU LOOK AT RIGHT NOW, OUR WORK SESSION MATRIX WE'RE PRETTY PACKED.
SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN SHOOT FOR JANUARY IF THAT SEEMS WE WILL WITH OUR TIMELINE QUESTION.
UM, SO WITH THE RENTAL LODGING, SO MAYES QUESTION, DO WE, WHEN WE HAVE THESE CFSS AND WE HAVE OUR SCALE SLIDING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION AND THE MANAGEMENT, YOU MAY REFERENCED SOMETIMES THE MANAGEMENT AT THE PROPERTY, WHATEVER ENDS OFF, DO WE THEN GO TO THE OWNERSHIP? DO WE LOOK TO FIND OUT WHO THE OWNERS ARE IN THERE? THEY'RE AWARE OF THE SITUATION.
SO IF IT BECOMES A CO THEY'RE NOT BLINDSIDE.
LIKE I NEVER KNEW OUR PROPERTY WAS IN THIS KIND OF DISOR MANAGEMENT.
SO WE PRACTICALLY REACHED OUT TO THE OWNERSHIP, NOT THE MANAGEMENT.
UM, SO WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, LIKE CHIEF SAID, LIKE WHEN THEY IDENTIFY AN ISSUE, THEY'RE COMING TO US AND VICE VERSA BECAUSE WE CAN COLLABORATE AND, AND KIND OF TACKLE THE PROBLEM ON ALL SIDES.
UM, SO YES, WHEN WE, WE DO APPROACH BOTH A ON SITE BUT ALSO THE, UM, PROPERTY OWNER.
SO WHEN WE DO NOTICES, IT IS IN THE RENTAL, UM, PROGRAM THAT WE'RE CONTACTING BOTH THE ONSITE REPRESENTATIVE, WHICH MAY BE A PROPERTY MANAGER OR OTHERWISE.
UM, AND, AND NOT IN ALL CASES, BUT IN MANY CASES THE, THE OWNER R IS NOT LOCAL OR ON SITE.
SO, UM, IT, IT HOOS US TO, TO COLLABORATE WITH BOTH.
BUT THEY'RE NOT BLINDSIDED WHEN THEY GET THIS INFORMATION.
THIS THEY'VE BEEN FOREWARNED THAT, HEY, YOU HAVE A PROPERTY THAT HAS THIS MANY CFSS IMPLEMENTING A POTENTIAL NEW PROGRAM.
SO WELL WE'RE ACTUALLY, UM, THIS IS KIND OF PERFECT TIMING 'CAUSE WE'RE GETTING READY TO GEAR UP FOR NOTICING FOR OUR RENEWAL PROCESS, WHICH BEGINS JANUARY 1ST.
SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA START THIS THROUGH THIS, THE END OF THIS MONTH FOR THE RENEWAL CYCLE.
AND SO IF THIS IS ULTIMATELY APPROVED, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN INCLUDE WITHIN OUR NOTICES THAT WE'RE SENDING OUT FOR THE RENTAL REGISTRATION, OR EXCUSE ME, THE LODGING REGISTRATION PROGRAM AND GIVE EVERYONE A HEADS UP.
I THINK THERE'S OBVIOUSLY STILL SOME COLLABORATION TO DO ON EXACT IMPLEMENTATION AND THAT'S A FURTHER CONVERSATION TO COUNCIL.
BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING, SOMETHING GREAT.
I WOULD, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE ASK OWNERSHIP, NOT MANAGEMENT OR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT TO SIGN OFF IF THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT THIS NEW PROGRAM IS GONNA BE STARTED IN 2026 AND YOU'RE AWARE OF IT AND THEY HAVE TO SIGN AND SEND SOMETHING BACK AS A RECEIPT OF THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT ADMINISTRATION.
THE OWNERSHIP, NOT THE MANAGEMENT PROPERTY.
THE OWNERS ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE WHETHER THEY HAVE A HUNDRED PROPERTIES US OR ONE PROPERTY IN THE US BUT IT HAPPENS TO BE IN ADDISON.
WE'RE LOOKING AT IT DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHER CITIES ARE.
THEY NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA IMPLEMENT THIS.
YEAH, WE CAN EXPLORE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT.
WE DO LIKE WITH THE REGISTRATION PROGRAM, WE DO REQUIRE THE OWNER TO PROVIDE, THEY ARE REQUIRED AS, AS PART OF THE APPLICATION SO THEY ARE ENGAGED.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ON IF THE COUNCIL, FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD, I WOULD IT SOUNDS LIKE SORT PART OF IT.
SO WOULD THIS, UH, BE READY IN TIME TO, UH, GO OUT WITH THE JANUARY 1ST REGISTRATION? OUR, OUR PLAN IS TO BRING THIS AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
SO IT WOULD, SO YOU WOULD'VE THE NOTES THERE, YOU WOULD HAVE THE EDUCATION THERE.
LIKE THERE'S GOOD SUPPORT FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD.
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YOU NEED FROM US ON THIS? EVERYTHING, SIR.[b. Present and discuss potential amendments to the Unified Development Code (UDC) pertaining to the creation of Parks Zoning District(s).]
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE B, PRESENT AND DISCUSS POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE UDC PERTAINING TO THE CREATION OF PARKS AND ZONING DISTRICTS.LIZ, LESLIE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UM, SO WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT SOME POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE BASED UPON THE DISCUSSION WE HAD, UM, COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
SO, UH, MS I'M GONNA QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND.
THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE, BUT I WANNA QUICKLY REMIND YOU, UM, TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PARK, UM, DISTRICT HISTORY, UM, THE COMPARISON CITY, WHICH YOU SAID SLIGHTLY EXPANDED UPON, AND THEN, UM, SPENT THE TIME TALKING ABOUT SOME POSSIBLE AMENDMENT OPTIONS TO GET DIRECTION FROM COUNSEL.
SO UDC, THE CODE ITSELF WAS APPROVED IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, AND THEN THE ZONING MAP ADOPTED AUGUST 12TH OF THIS YEAR, WHICH BECAME EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST.
UM, DURING THAT PROCESS, UH, COUNSEL, THE SHERIFF'S CONCERN ABOUT THE LACK OF, UH, A PARKS DISTRICT OR PARKS REPRESENTATION ON THE MAP, UM, THAT WAS ADOPTED.
SO THAT IS WHY WE WERE BRINGING THIS DISCUSSION BACK TO YOU THIS EVENING.
UM, SO PREVIOUSLY WE'VE THE STAFF'S KNOWLEDGE, WE NEVER HAD A PARKS DISTRICT, YOU DIDN'T ERROR, THAT'S WHY IT WAS APPEARING ON THE ZONING MAP.
UM, THE UDC KEPT IN LINE WITH THAT, DID NOT INTRODUCE A PARK DISTRICT OR OVERLAY.
AND, AND IN LIEU OF THAT, PARKS ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN ALL OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS, UM, AND OUR ZONE BASED UPON, UM, COMPATIBLE, ADJACENT USES AND SO FORTH.
SO, UM, JUST TO NOTE, WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT THE PARK PLAN IS, UH, CURRENTLY PROTECTED UNDER THE CONTRACTOR AND STATE LAW, UH, WHICH IS REFERENCED HERE.
UM, THIS, UH, WOULD REQUIRE A REFERENDUM TO ORDER TO CONVEY LAND.
SORRY, THAT, THAT, THAT IS PROTECTED FROM SALE NOT USAGE.
IT IS, THE CITY COULD ELECT TO USE IT FOR SOMETHING THEY JUST COULDN'T SELL IT PROTECTED BY THE STATE, UH, FROM SELLING THE LAND.
IT HAS TO BE USED AS A PARKLAND.
SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE SALE, THE DEED, THE TRANSFER, THE DONATION, ET CETERA.
SO IF IT'S PUBLIC PARK PARKLAND IS WHAT, UM, BOTH COUNTY, HER AND THE STATE LAW SAYS THE PASTOR'S NAME HAS FILED PLAN.
SO, UM, WITHOUT APPROVAL OF A REFERENDUM.
SO WITH APPROVAL OF REFERENDUM COULD BE CONVEYED IN SOME CAPACITY.
UM, AND THEN THE COMPARATOR CITY.
SO THERE ARE, UH, 15 CHARACTER CITIES.
THESE HAVE NOT CHANGED FROM WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION EARLIER.
UM, HOWEVER, ON THE THIRD SLIDE, UM, STAFFING SOME RESEARCH TO FIND SOME OTHER CITIES BOTH IN TEXAS AND OUTSIDE TEXAS, UM, THAT UTILIZE SOME UNIQUE, UM, PARK DISTRICTS OR OVERLAY.
SO, UH, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S KIND OF A VARIETY.
THE FIRST TWO IN TEXAS ARE SIMILAR, THAT THEY HAVE AN OPEN SPACE DISTRICT, BUT IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE TO PUBLIC PARKS.
UM, AND THE INTENT OF THOSE IS NOT NECESSARILY TO REMAIN.
UM, AURORA, COLORADO USES AN OVERLAY DISTRICT, UM, THAT IS KIND OF AN OVERLAY THAT SAYS THESE AREAS MAY HAVE OTHER LINES, ZONING INTENDED PUBLIC PARK OR RECREATION PURPOSES.
AND THEN, UM, COLORADO STRENGTH HAS A SPECIFIC PUBLIC PARKS DISTRICT.
UM, AND THAT SPECIFICALLY OUTLINES PUBLIC RECREATION, OPEN SPACE, UM, AND COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR VARIOUS LONG RANGE PLAN.
LIKE IN REFERENCE OUR PROS PLAN, WHICH IS THE PARK RECREATION OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS, UM, THAT'S LISTED AS BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA.
THEY ACTUALLY, THIS IS FAIRLY RECENT.
UM, THEY ESTABLISHED SEVERAL NEW OPEN SPACE DISTRICTS, UH, FROM READING THEIR BACKGROUND, I'VE INCLUDED THE LINKS.
UM, SO IF YOU WANT TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF MORE DIGGING ON YOUR OWN, UM, THEY REALLY ESTABLISHED THESE FOR PRIMARILY CONSERVATION, BUT THEY DO HAVE ONE THAT'S MORE TAILORED TO PARK AND RECREATION AS WELL.
SO THEY ACTUALLY ESTABLISHED THREE DISTRICTS.
SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT, THAT, SO WE'LL SOME ACROSS FROM SOME ADDITIONAL RESEARCH ON THAT.
UM, SO JUST TO REITERATE A FEW REASONS WHY IT'S NOT VERY COMMON THAT WE ESTABLISH PARKS DISTRICTS IS THAT THEY'RE GENERALLY, PARKS ARE GENERALLY DEEMED COMPATIBLE IN ALL DISTRICTS.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF PARKS AND THAT MAY VARY.
UM, BUT THEY ARE HEAVILY REGULATED
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BY THE, UM, COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY ARE, UM, PUBLIC PROPERTY AND UM, ARE TYPICALLY AND IN THIS CASE ARE, HAVE PROTECTIONS VIA VARIOUS OTHER MEANS SUCH AS STATE LAW AND THE TOWN CHARTER.ADDITIONALLY, I DO WANNA MENTION THAT CREATING A PARKS DISTRICT, DEPENDING ON HOW IT'S DRAFTED AND ADOPTED, COULD ALSO LIMIT FLEXIBILITY.
UM, IN THE FUTURE IF THERE WAS A, UM, EVOLUTION OF A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PUBLIC PARK.
UM, WE ALSO WANT TO CONSIDER A CREATION COMMUNITIES AND, UH, WE WE'RE DRAFT IN THESE POSSIBLE, UH, AMENDMENTS.
SO STAFF HAS PREPARED THREE OPTIONS.
UH, WE'RE GONNA QUICKLY GO OR GO THROUGH THESE AND THEN, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME FEEDBACK ON IF YOU WANT TO PURSUE A SPECIFIC OPTION.
UH, SO WE CAN GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND, UM, BRING SOMETHING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.
SO THE OPTION ONE IS TO, UM, KEEP STATUS QUO AS ADOPTED, WHICH IS, UH, NO AMENDMENT.
UM, IT WOULD REMAIN AS IS TO KEEP THE PARK PERMITTED BY RIGHT AND ALL ZONING DISTRICTS.
AND, UM, SOMETHING WHICH WE DID BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT BACK IN STEP IN AUGUST, EXCUSE ME, WAS WE COULD ADD REPRESENTATIONAL IMAGERY ON OUR ONLINE ZONING MAP THAT CLEARLY, UM, IDENTIFIES TOWN PARKS THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MODIFY THE ZONING.
THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL MODIFICATIONS.
UM, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER, UH, CITIES IN THE REGION AND OUR COMPARATOR CITIES.
UM, WE ALREADY HAVE PROTECTION, AS I MENTIONED, WOULD LIMIT NONCONFORMITY AND WOULD ALLOW PUBLIC PARKS TO BE, UM, DICTATED BY THE PROGRAMMING AND SORT WORK COAST PLAN, WHICH IS THE PARKS, RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE AND MASTER PLAN.
OPTION TWO WOULD BE THE CREATION OF AN OVERLY DISTRICT.
UM, THIS IS A, AN OVERLY DISTRICT IS A FLOATING ZONE, SO IT COVERS ABOVE THE BASE DISTRICT AND ESTABLISHES, UM, ADDITIONAL OR WHAT COULD ESTABLISH ADDITIONAL OR MORE RESTRICTIVE STANDARDS AS APPROPRIATE.
SO WE CAN DRAFT THAT AS WE SEE FIT.
UM, AND ALSO COULD PROVIDE UNIQUE IMAGERY WHICH WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY ON FOR THE MAP.
SO I IMPOSED AN OVERLAY ON ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.
YOU SEE AN IMAGE BELOW AS AN EXAMPLE.
LIKE I SAID, THAT COULD LOOK UM, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
UH, WE CAN, WE CAN, UM, EXPLORE IMAGERY OPTIONS.
SO I GO INTO DETAIL HERE ABOUT WHAT AN OVERLY DISTRICT, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S JUST SOME ADDITIONAL RULES.
WE WOULD MAINTAIN A BASE DISTRICT OF SOME KIND.
UM, AND THE UDC ALREADY ALLOWS FOR THE CREATION OF OVER DISTRICT.
SO THE CONCEPT OF AN OVERLY DISTRICT IS ALREADY IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
WE ACTUALLY ALREADY HAVE A, UM, AN OVERLY CREATED, WHICH IS THE AIRPORT RELAY THAT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL STANDARDS FOR FORCE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT.
THIS PROCESS WOULD STILL REQUIRE AN A FORMAL AMENDMENT TO THE CODE.
SO WE'VE TO PHYSICALLY WRITE AND DRAFT CREATE AND ADOPT THAT WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A TOWN WIDE NOTICE.
UH, THE FIRST OF THE PLANNING IS ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
SOME, UM, BENEFITS AND CHALLENGES TO THIS PARTICULAR OPTION.
UH, SO WE, UH, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, THERE WAS SOME DESIRE TO CLEARLY ARTICULATE WHERE OUR PARKS WERE AND UM, WHAT THEY WERE USED FOR FROM A COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE AND MAKING SURE THEY WERE PRESENTED CLEARLY ON THE MAP ON THE ONLINE ZONING MAP.
UM, IT AT THIS TIME, UH, WHICH WE HAVE TO FURTHER EXPLORE, BUT IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT WE COULD LIKELY, UM, COMPLETE THIS AMENDMENT ADMINISTRATIVELY IN HOUSE, UH, WITH OUR CURRENT STAFF.
UM, WE COULD, THIS OPTION WOULD LIMIT THE CREATION OF NOT 40 BECAUSE WE WOULD STILL RETAIN THE BASE DISTRICT BUT PROVIDE ADDITIONAL STANDARDS BEYOND THAT.
AND THEN, UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE CAN PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL STANDARDS AND IT WOULD BE LESS COMPLEX OVERALL THAN ADOPTING AN ENTIRE ZONING DISTRICT.
SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF EXPLORING THIS OPTION.
SOME CHALLENGES IS THIS WOULD POTENTIALLY WHAT WOULD ADD AN ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN WHEN APPLYING A NEW ZONING DISTRICT.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS ANYTIME WE ESTABLISH A NEW PARK PLAN, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PHYSICALLY STAFF UP TO BRING FORWARD A REZONING TO APPLY THE OVERLAY, UM, FOR COUNSEL.
SO IT WOULDN'T AUTOMATICALLY APPLY.
WE STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW STATE LAW, WHICH IS BRING FORWARD A ZONING ITEM AND UH, PROVE THAT THAT REZONING OF THAT PROPERTY WOULD APPLY THE OVERLAY.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, DEPENDING UPON HOW IT'S DRAFTED, IT COULD, UM, IMPEDE FLEXIBILITY FOR HOW PARKS ARE USED.
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AGAIN, THAT'S GONNA VARY DRASTICALLY ON HOW THE OVERLAY WAS DRAFTED.AND OPTION THREE IS THE CREATION OF A NEW PARK ZONING DISTRICT OR DISTRICTS THAT'S POSSIBLE COULD BE MORE.
UM, THIS WOULD INCLUDE PRESCRIBING SPECIFIC ALLOWED LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR A DISTRICT SPECIFIC TO PARKS OR OTHERWISE.
UM, THEY WOULD BE REPRESENTED BY THEIR OWN SYMBOL ON OUR ZONING MAP, LIKE THE GREEN OR SOME VARIATION THEREOF.
AND, UH, WE WOULDN'T TO COMPLETE A FULL EVALUATION OF ALL OF OUR EXISTING PARKS, UM, WHEN WE'RE DRAFTING THOSE USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY, BUT AS AN EXAMPLE, WE WOULD WANT A CAP A OR A
SO WE'D HAVE TO VERY, UM, WANT TO VERY THOROUGHLY ANTICIPATE BOTH CURRENT AND FUTURE NEEDS OF ALL OF OUR PARKS.
IF YOU WERE GOING TO, UM, EXPLORE THIS AND THEN, UM, AS THE SAME WOULD THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, IT WOULD REQUIRE A TOM WHITE NOTICE AS WELL AS
UM, SO WHAT, UH, THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS REPRESENTING IS WE WOULD PHYSICALLY HAVE A NEW COLUMN THAT WOULD ADD HERE THAT WOULD HAVE POTENTIALLY A P OR SIMILAR DESIGNATION DEPENDING ON WHAT HE CALLED.
AND WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE, UM, LAND USES IDENTIFIED IN CODE AND IDENTIFY IF THEY SHOULD BE USED OR ALLOWED OR NOT.
SOME BENEFITS AND CHALLENGES TO THIS.
UM, SO THIS OPTION, OPTION THREE, WOULD ALLOW US TO FURTHER ARTICULATE PARKS AND UH, THEY WOULD BE VERY CLEARLY DEFINED WITH LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
UM, SOME CHALLENGES SIMILAR TO OVERLAY, IT WOULD ADD AN ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN.
WE WOULD HAVE TO REZONE ALL PARK LAND.
UM, ANYTIME WE ACQUIRED OR UM, RECEIVED NEW PARK PLAN, UM, WE WOULD LIKELY, UH, NEED TO REENGAGE A CONSULTANT.
WE DID QUALIFY DEVELOPMENT CODE, UH, TO HELP THIS, THIS IS A MUCH MORE COMPLEX PROCESS AND UM, THE CONSULTANT ALSO HAS A, UM, LAND USE EXPERTS THAT REVIEW THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEM TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT RESPONS STATE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, WOULD LIKELY, UH, BE NECESSARY FOR OPTION THREE.
UM, THIS, THE TIME COMMITMENT FOR THIS WOULD BE MUCH, LIKELY MORE EXTENSIVE THAN OPTION TWO.
AND UM, WE ALSO, AS I MENTIONED IT, UM, REVIEW OF OUR EXISTING PARK PLAN TO LIMIT NONCONFORMITY.
UM, THIS OFTEN DOES CREATE A HIGHER RISK FOR NONCONFORMITY.
UM, WHAT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY MEAN IS THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE TO ESTABLISH A ZONING DISTRICT AND ESTABLISH LIGHTING STANDARDS, IF WE CAME BACK AND IDENTIFIED THE PARK THAT DID NOT MEET OUR MINIMUM LIGHTING STANDARDS, UH, WE WOULD HAVE A NONCONFORMING PROPERTY AS A PUBLISHED PIECE OF LAND AND WE WOULD NEED TO FIND SOME AVENUE TO ADDRESS THAT.
UM, AND LASTLY, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO OPTION TWO IS THIS COULD, UM, ULTIMATELY EMPTY FLEXIBILITY FOR, UH, PROGRAMMING IN THE FUTURE.
UM, THIS IS JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF TWO VERSUS THREE.
UM, SO THE FIRST SEVERAL BULLET POINTS THAT ARE NOT, UM, BOLDED ARE THE SAME ON BOTH.
AND THEN THE LAST FOUR BULLETS, UH, YOU'LL SEE FROM STAFF PERSPECTIVE.
OPTION TWO HAS SOME PROS, UM, AND OPTION THREE HAS SOME CONS WHICH ARE IDENTIFIED IN RED.
UM, IF COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED AT STAFF'S, UM, I GUESS RECOMMENDATION TO UTILIZE AN OVERLAY, YOU, UM, ARE CHOOSING BETWEEN OPTION TWO AND OPTION THREE.
UM, BUT UH, WITH THAT WE SEEK DIRECTION ON HOW TO PROCEED AND THE INTENT IS, IS THAT, UH, WE RECEIVE DIRECTION TONIGHT.
COULD COME BACK, UM, FAIRLY SOON WITH KIND OF A MORE DETAILED TIMELINE OF EXACTLY HOW WE WOULD PLAN TO EXECUTE THIS.
I DEFINITELY WANT SOMETHING THAT ZONES IT PART SO PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT IT, WHICH BETWEEN TWO AND THREE CURRENTLY ARE BEFORE THIS NEW UDC ARE, ARE PARKS HAD DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS, POCKET PARK, NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, ATHLETIC PARK, THEY HAD DIFFERENT THINGS WHICH ALLOWED FOR DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES TO BE ABLE TO TAKE PLACE IN THESE PARKS THAT DID NOT EXIST IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THAT EXISTS IN THE PROS PLAN, WHICH IS THE PARKS, RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN.
AND THAT IS STILL ADOPTED TODAY.
SO ANY PARK THAT USED TO BE DESIGNATED A POCKET PARK OR
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NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IS STILL, THAT WOULD STILL BE UNDER EITHER ONE OF THESE PLANS.SO THAT DOES NOT CHANGE, THAT'S, WELL, I SHOULDN'T SAY IT DOESN'T, THAT CAN BE AMENDED.
BUT THAT IS, UM, A SEPARATE DOCUMENT FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SO OUR, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE PROS MASTER PLAN, IT IS, UM, MORE PROGRAMMATIC AND VISIONARY OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND FORWARD THINKING OF HERE'S OUR, UM, PRIORITIZATION AND OUR, OUR LIST OF THINGS TO DO.
IT'S MORE SIMILAR TO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THAT MANNER.
WHEREAS THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IS THE VERY SPECIFIC PARAMETERS OF WHAT IS AND IT'S NOT ALLOWED.
AND WHAT ARE YOUR SETBACKS? AND IT, IT'S VERY, UM, TECHNICAL.
SO THOSE ARE, ONE IS VISIONARY, THE GROWTH PLAN, WHICH TALKS ABOUT PROGRAMMING AND HOW WE WANNA UTILIZE OUR PARKS.
AND THEN THE OTHER IS THE TECHNICAL DOCUMENT, WHICH IS
SO A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK THAT WOULD BE DESIGNATED NEIGHBORHOOD PARK.
NOW A SOCCER LEAGUE COULDN'T COME IN AND START HAVING SOCCER LEAGUE IN THAT PARK.
I MIGHT DEFER, I WOULD JUST, IT'S REALLY NOT RELEVANT TO THIS DISCUSSION THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PARKS.
WELL I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH OF THESE PLANS WOULD ASSURE THAT THAT TAKE PLACE, THAT THE PART'S IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAD THAT VERY SITUATION HAPPENING.
UH, A SOCCER LEAGUE CAME IN AND STARTED TRYING TO HAVE SOCCER LEAGUES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARK.
I, THIS DISCUSSION IS REALLY NOT RELEVANT WITH THAT AT ALL.
THIS IS ONLY JUST SAYING, IS THIS A PARK OR NOT? RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT THE ZONING IS DOING IS, SO THAT IS A A GREAT CONVERSATION.
BUT THAT WOULD BE MORE IF WE WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION ON THE PARKS AND REC OPEN SPACE PLAN, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO IT WOULD JUST BE A SEPARATE CONVERSATION.
SO THE USAGES ARE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE ZONING.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD ALL WORK HAND IN HAND.
DEPENDING ON, YOU THINK ABOUT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, WE DIDN'T HAVE JOBS AND HOPS AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT DONE CORRECT, I THINK.
BUT FOR THE MOST, IF YOU WERE GONNA REALLY LOOK AT THE PROGRAMMING OF IT, WE'D PROBABLY DO THAT IN THE PARK AND REC PLAN.
NOW I THINK LESLIE CAN SPEAK TO WHAT THIS CAN DO, BUT I THINK IF WE'RE GETTING DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE, THAT'S PROBABLY THE ROUTE YOU WOULD GO.
SO THIS IS REALLY SAYING CAN, SHOULD WE USE IT FOR A PARK OR NOT? OKAY.
AND SO YES OR NO AND AS FAR AS THE PROGRAMMING OF, DO WE PUT AN AMPHITHEATER THERE, DO WE PUT A SPORTS FIELD THERE? DO WE PUT A, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE GAME I DON'T, THAT IS MORE THE PROGRAMMING OF, AND THE PURVIEW OF COUNCIL.
'CAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT'S PUBLIC LAND THAN THE, UM, PUBLIC FUNDS THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THAT IS, I WOULD SAY A MORE POLICY CONVERSATION TO, TO DAVE'S POINT, AND THIS IS SHOULD PARKS BE ALLOWED OR NOT? MM-HMM
SO CAN WE GO TO SLIDE 19 ON THE FIRST BULLET POINT? WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CREATING A NEW PARK ZONING DISTRICT WOULD INCLUDE PRESCRIBING ALLOWED LAND USES AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
SO, SO MAYBE I, I BOUGHT SOME LAND NEXT TO A PARK, UM, AND IT WAS, NOTHING WAS GOING ON AT THAT PARK AT THE TIME I, I BOUGHT, BUT THEN LATER ALL THESE OTHER NEW PROGRAMMING USES CAME IN AND SOME OF 'EM ON MAY LIFE AND SOME OF 'EM MIGHT, MAY NOT.
UM, I COULD SEE THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS WITH, WITH HOMEOWNERS HAVING SOME KNOWLEDGE LIKE, HEY, THEY'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ALL THIS PROGRAMMING COMING INTO THIS PARK.
I'M, I'M BUYING INTO NEXT DOOR.
UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN, I CAN SEE THAT AS AN ADVANTAGE.
I I CAN DEFINITELY SEE THAT AS AN ADVANTAGE AFTER, AFTER WE'VE GOTTEN INTO THE EDISON CIRCLE PARK VISION, UH, STUDY.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST ONE THOUGHT I'M SURE.
I MEAN, IT, IT, IT IT CAN HAVE A LITTLE ZONING, UM, BUILT INTO THE PROGRAM.
IF WE WENT, IF WE WENT WITH, UH, OPTION THREE, SO I MEAN, ZONING CODES CAN, ARE CUSTOMIZABLE SO WE CAN CREATE HOW WE SEE FIT.
AND WE DO THAT THROUGH A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
THAT'S, UM, HOW THE EBC ULTIMATELY WAS CREATED.
UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, SOME USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THAT THESE COULD CHANGE, BUT SOME USES WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS WE HAVE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.
WE HAVE RECREATION FACILITY, OUTDOOR RECREATION FACILITY, INDOOR, UM, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT, UH, RETAIL, PERSONAL SERVICES.
SO THOSE ARE LIKE THE USES WE HAVE.
SO HYPOTHETICALLY MAYBE WE WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T WANNA EXCLUDE PERSONAL SERVICES FROM MADISON CIRCLE PARK, YOU KNOW, BUT MAYBE WE WOULD WANNA HAVE THE OTHER USES I LISTED, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, PARK SPACE AND RECREATION FACILITIES, INDOOR
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AND OUTDOOR AND RETAIL AND, UM, RESTAURANT AS A, AS A HYPOTHETICAL.UM, SO YES, WE T WE CURRENTLY THE CODE IS IN THAT GRANULAR TO SAY, ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW, UM, SOCCER, UM, LEAGUES, LEAGUES, IT DOESN'T GET THAT BRAIN GRANULAR AND THAT'S NOT WHERE IT'S COMMON TO GET THAT GRANULAR.
UM, TYPICALLY IT WOULD BE BROAD SPORTS FACILITIES AND WHERE, WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS, AND IT MAY NOT BE ALLOWED, THAT WOULD BE A POLICY CONVERSATION TO MORE GEARED TO THE, UM, TOWN CODE THAT IDENTIFIES WHAT COULD AND COULD NOT BE DONE ACTIVITY THAT COULD OR COULD NOT OCCUR ON A TOWN FACILITY.
JUST LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, I THINK LAST YEAR, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ADOPTED A, UM, AMENDMENT, EXCUSE COUNCIL ADOPTED AMENDMENT.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BROUGHT FORWARD AN AMENDMENT TO PROHIBIT THE, UH, AGGRESSIVE DOG TRAINING WITHIN OUR PUBLIC PARKS.
BUT THAT'S NOT TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN THE ZONING CODE THAT WE WOULD SAY AGGRESSIVE DOG TRAINING PROHIBITED.
THAT'S MORE OF A POLICY CONVERSATION.
WHERE THEN DOES IT COME IN WITH, WITH GATHERINGS OF 20 OR MORE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT THAT'S IN THE TOWN CODE.
THAT'S NOT, WE HAVE, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THESE ZONE ZONING ISSUES.
YEAH, WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT'S, THAT DECLARES THAT.
SO THAT WOULD NOT CHANGE EITHER.
CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE 21? SO I'M, UH, IN FAVOR OF THE OVERLAY, UH, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE, WE HAVE THE SAME PROTECTIONS, WE HAVE THE SAME MECHANISMS OF WHATEVER USAGE WE WANT TO DEFINE, UH, OF EACH OPTION TWO OR THREE.
AND NEITHER OF 'EM GIVES MORE PROTECTION THAN WE ALREADY HAVE OR LESS.
UM, SO I DON'T SEE WHY, UH, OPTION TWO OVERLAY DISTRICT IS, IS NOT CLEAR CHOICE.
AND SORRY, I JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP ON ONE THING THAT MAKES SURE SOME CLARITY.
SO THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, WE CAN STILL IMPOSE ADDITIONAL USE OR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, BUT IT WOULD BE FOR THE ENTIRE, LIKE OVERLAY.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU COULD SAY ANYWHERE THAT THERE'S A PARKED OVERLAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO YOU WOULD EXCLUDE THAT FROM WITHIN THE OVERLAY.
SO IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE TO JUST THE ZONING HISTORY AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO TO KEEP THIS MOVING ALONG, UH, THE I'D KIND OF LIKE YOU TO FEEL FOR WHERE EVERYBODY IS, UH, ONE OPTION ONE, TWO, OR THREE.
FOR ME, I'M, I'M PROBABLY IN A MINORITY THAT I'M FINE WITH OPTION ONE BECAUSE WE'RE PROTECTED BY STATE LAW AND, AND THE TOWN CHARTER FROM SELLING OR LEASING, UH, PARK PROPERTY WITHOUT AN ELECTION.
SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S ENOUGH PROTECTION FOR ME.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I MAY BE IN THE MINORITY, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE IS.
SO, AND I MIGHT BE ASKING THE SAME THING AGAIN, BUT WHAT, WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF THE OVERLAY? UH, IN ONE OF YOUR SLIDES YOU'D MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, IMPOSING ADDITIONAL STANDARDS, RIGHT? BUT, BUT SEVERAL OF THE STANDARDS I FEEL LIKE YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED, YOU SAID ARE COVERED BY OTHER CITY POLICIES.
SO WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THOSE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE COULD ADD WITH AN OVERLAY? WELL, SO THAT IS KIND OF A FOLLOW UP CONVERSATION OF WITH COUNSEL AS WE TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO ONE OF THESE OPTIONS.
BUT, UM, JUST A BROAD QUESTION OF, I DO YOU WANNA EXPLORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND GET INPUT OF WHAT ADDITIONAL STANDARDS? UM, THERE WAS, I KNOW IN GOING BACK TO THE CONVERSATION FROM AUGUST THAT WAS, HAD SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE SHARED FROM THE COMMUNITY, THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT ALLOWING, UM, LIKE PRIVATE RESIDENCES ON PUBLIC PARKS.
WE COULD MAKE AN OVERLAY THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE RESIDENCE ON PUBLIC PART.
UM, ANYTHING THAT WAS OF CONCERN TO ADD ADDITIONAL ZONING PROTECTION.
UM, THE ONLY THING I WOULD CAUTION IS GETTING OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE, UH, COULD LIMIT FLEXIBILITY.
SO, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE VISION AS PROVISION PLAN, THERE WAS CONVERSATION WITHIN THAT PLAN BROADLY OF ADDING A DOCENT PAVILION IN CIRCLE PARK.
WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S EXPLORED FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE THAT WOULD BE DEFINED AS OFFICE, BUT WOULD IT BE PARKED BY PARK? SO, YOU KNOW, ADDISON CIRCLE PARK WOULD PROBABLY HAVE CERTAIN USES, BUT MAYBE A POP PARK CLOSER TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD MIGHT NOT HAVE AS MANY USES.
SO WITH AN OVERLAY, THE UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT WOULD STILL APPLY.
SO YOU CAN ADD ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCES OR MORE RESTRICTIVE.
BUT FOR EXAMPLE, UM, I'M TAKE THE PARKS LIKE, UH, CELESTIAL PARK, UM, RIGHT NOW IS ZONED WITHIN THE R ONE DISTRICT.
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THAT ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THE R ONE DISTRICT ARE ALLOWED, WHICH IS VERY FEW.AND SO IF THERE WANTED, IF YOU WANTED AN ADDITIONAL STANDARD IN THAT PARTICULAR EXAMPLE, BASED UPON THE FEEDBACK WE'VE HEARD IN AUGUST, I WOULD POTENTIALLY RECOMMEND SAYING RESIDENTIAL USES ARE NOT IN THE, AND THE OVERLAY GIVES YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
YEAH, YOU COULD DO THAT IN EITHER, EITHER OPTION.
UM, WHEN YOU SAY EITHER OPTION, YOU MEAN TWO OR THREE OR ONE DOING NOTHING? UH, IN TWO OR THREE, SORRY.
BUT LESLIE, A RESIDENTIAL USE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED AS IT CURRENTLY IS, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE TO SELL THAT PROPERTY.
AND YOU COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT AN ELECTION.
SO IT DOESN'T, TO ME IT JUST DOESN'T ACCOMPLISH MOST OF THIS DOESN'T REALLY ACCOMPLISH MUCH DO ANYTHING.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENT OF SOME COUNSEL THAT THEY WANNA SEE SOMETHING, BUT I JUST DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST DON'T, I'M NOT SEEING THE BENEFIT OF IT MYSELF.
IF WE HAVE A OVERLAY DEFINED, UM, FIRST OF ALL, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH PUBLIC HEARINGS, RIGHT? OKAY.
SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE AND A PROCESS.
AND THEN IF WE CHANGE THAT OVERLAY TO ALLOW SOMETHING OR TAKE SOMETHING AWAY, DOES IT HAVE TO GO AGAIN THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING? YES.
SO IF WE'RE AMENDING THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH SORT APPLY TO THE ENTIRE CITY, WE HAVE TO, I, UH, NOTICE EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN THE TOWN BOUNDARY.
IF WE ARE JUST MODIFYING A PARTICULAR DISTRICT OR PARTICULAR PROPERTY, YOU WOULD ONLY NOTIFY THOSE WITHIN 200 FEET.
AND THAT IS DICTATED BY STATE LAW.
BUT YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS ANYTIME YOU'VE MADE ANY CHANGE TO THAT.
ON MAKING CHANGES TO THE PARTS.
QUESTION TO, RIGHT HOWARD? I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, DOES THE NUMBER THREE, THE REZONING, DOES THAT IMPACT ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO THE PART OR PUTS RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT AND THE ALLOWED NEXT TO THE PARK? I'VE HEARD SOME CONVERSATION THROUGHOUT THIS ORDEAL OF ON THE PARK PROPERTY NEXT TO THE PARK, IT COULD ONLY BE LIKE ONE STORY BUILDING AND TWO PROPERTIES DOWN, TWO STORY BUILDING THAT, WHERE IS THAT COMING INTO THIS? THAT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT, SO THERE WAS A CONVERSATION BACK IN AUGUST OF A, UM, POTENTIAL REQUEST TO REASON ALL OF OUR PARKS AS A, LIKE AN R ONE OR RESIDENTIAL.
AND IF THAT WAS DONE, THEN THAT'S WHAT THAT STAIRS SET IS.
AND THAT'S CALLED A NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION ZONE AND A CODE.
AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT SAYS IS IF YOU ARE ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LIKE R ONE, THE AS YOU INCREASE INTENSITY, YOU NEED TO HAVE A GREATER SETBACK.
SO THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME INTO PLAY.
THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY, WELL, IT WOULDN'T APPLY IN EITHER OF THESE SCENARIOS BECAUSE, SO WHETHER IT'S TWO OR THREE, IT'S NOT GONNA PUT IN THE BACK MIND IT NOT IF WE KEPT THE, THE UNDER, SO NOT IN THREE AT ALL AND THEN NOT IN TWO.
IF WE KEPT THE UNDER UNDERLYING, I MAKE DISTRICT THE SAME, JUST CORRECT QUESTION.
IT'S MIDDLE, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE BULLET POINT ON BOTH TWO AND THREE ADDITIONAL ADD ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN AND COSTS.
I, I HEARD YOU SAY CONSULTANTS AND I SEE IT UNDERNEATH THAT AT RED ON THE THIRD, BUT I DON'T SEE IT ON THE SECOND BECAUSE IT'S USED BY STAFF OR STAFF WILL BE COMPLETING IT.
GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE.
SO, UM, WHAT THAT IS REFERENCING IS ANYTIME THAT WE ACQUIRE NEW PROPERTY, WE WOULD, UM, SO, UH, LIKE LET'S SAY THERE'S A LAND DEDICATION FOR A PUBLIC PARK, WE WOULD HAVE TO ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY THROUGH WHATEVER MEANS, UM, OR BEING CONDUCTED.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AFTER WE TOOK OWNERSHIP TO EITHER REZONE IT TO APPLY AN OVERLAY OR TO REZONE IT TO A PARKS DISTRICT.
SO THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WOULD BE THE NOTICE BOTH THE TWO OF PUT, UM, THE, UH, NOTICE WITHIN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, WHICH IS BOTH OF THOSE ARE OUR STATE LAW AND THEN JUST STAFF TIME TO, TO, TO, UM, EXECUTE THOSE REZONINGS.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERSPECTIVE, WE COULD POTENTIALLY CYCLE UP.
SO WE'RE DOING IT ONCE A YEAR AND WE'RE GETTING THEM ALL, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO
BUT IT SHOULD, WE HAVE THE, OKAY, SO I'M LEANING TOWARDS OPTION TWO TO CUT THE COSTS AND KEEP IT WHERE YOU HAVE THE OVERLAP FROM THE ZONING.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM ME, I'M AT OPTION THREE.
I'D RATHER TAKE THE TIME THAT IT TAKES TO, TO GO PARK BY PARK AND LOCK DOWN WHAT, WHAT CAN BE DONE, WHAT CAN BE USED, WHAT CANNOT BE USED.
AND THEN IF WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THAT IN FUTURE, WE GO THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS.
UM, BUT, BUT OUR OWNERS WOULD KNOW, HEY,
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THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT I'VE BOUGHT INTO, THIS IS WHAT I'M BUYING INTO.UM, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE A DRASTIC CHANGE UNLESS, UNLESS IT GOES THROUGH, THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE BURN AND THE HURDLE THAT NEEDS TO BE, UH, OVERCOME TO, TO CHANGE IT.
CHRIS, WHERE ARE YOU? UH, I, I'LL SUPPORT OPTION TWO.
UM, I FEEL LIKE THE OVERLAY IS, IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ADD THE ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE THAT PARK.
SO WOULD YOU HAVE THE SAME NOTICE ON OPTION THREE? SO IT WOULD JUST BE A PROXIMITY NOTICE OF, OF WHAT'S AFFECTED AROUND IT, IF YOU'RE CHANGING THE USE OF THAT PARK.
IF YOU GO WITH OPTION THREE AND HAVE ALL DIFFERENT PARK ZONES.
SO WHAT MAR WAS REFERRING TO, THE NOTICE STANDARD IS THE SAME.
THOSE ARE DIC DICTATED BY STATE LAW.
SO IT WOULD JUST BE APPROXIMATELY OF, OF THAT 200 FEET OR WHATEVER THE NOTICE AREA IS.
SO YOU DON'T GET ANY BENEFIT FROM DOING THE THREE, THE THREE IS OVER CUMBERSOME AND OVER BUREAUCRATIC.
AND WE, AND WE DO, SO I SHOULD ALSO NOTE, WE DO, UM, NOTICE BEYOND STATE LAW.
SO STATE LAW DOES NOT REQUIRE US TO PUT SIGNS ON THE NOTE ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH WE DO PUT SIGN FROM PROPERTY.
WE ALSO INCLUDE IT IN OUR NEWSPAPER NOTICES, OR EXCUSE ME, NOT OUR, THE TOWN NEWSLETTER AS WELL.
SO, AND IF WE WANT TO HAVE OVERLAYS FOR EACH PARK, WE COULD HAVE THAT POTENTIALLY THEORETICALLY.
OKAY, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE SCENARIO THAT MARVIN JUST MENTIONED.
SO IN THAT LIGHT, THERE'S NO BENEFIT TO OPTION THREE.
OR IS THAT OPTION TWO? OKAY, RANDY? I PREFER OPTION THREE WITH THE CAVEAT THAT OUR, THAT OUR STAFF, UM, ATTEMPT TO DO THAT, UH, WITHOUT GOING THROUGH A CONSULTANT FEE ON THAT.
UM, ALL WHILE MARLIN SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE EXTRA LAYER OF PROTECTION ON EACH, ON EACH PARCEL OF LAND AND LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BUYING INTO AND, UH, HAVE IT MORE FIRM TO, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF DOING THAT, GIVEN THE BENEFIT OF THE TWO, OF DOING OPTION THREE? YEAH, I THINK WE, WE GOT THE, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T SHOW ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL BENEFIT THAT'S FROM THE PROTECTIONS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO CITE.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ZONING MAP, YOU NEED TO CLICK ON SOME THINGS TO SEE THE OVERLAY, OR IS IT JUST GONNA BE PERMANENTLY THERE? NO, IT COULD BE PERMANENTLY THERE.
SO IT WOULD LIKE, LIKE I SAID, THE CY COULD BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
LIKE MAYBE WE DO A DOUBLE CROSS HATCH INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, ONE THAT'S NOT DICTATED BY YOUR, BY CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
SO IF THERE'S, UM, A DESIRE TO MODIFY THAT, WE CAN.
UM, BUT YEAH, IT WOULD BE A, LIKE A PERMANENT FIXTURE ON THE ZONING MAP AND YOU WOULD SEE THE UNDERLYING ZONING, WHICH YOU SEE REPRESENTED HERE.
AND THEN THE, UM, OVERLAY DESIGNATION ON TOP.
HOW ARE YOU ON THIS? WELL, THE OVERLAY CAN BE DIFFERENT FOR EACH OF THE PARTS OR THEORETICALLY.
I WANT, I WANT THE, UM, DISTINCTION FROM PARK TO PARK THAT'S NOT, SO I, I LIKE THREE.
AND IF THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH TWO AND IT COSTS LESS, I, I COULD GO TO TWO, BUT I DON'T, I THINK ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE HURDLE OF IT AND IT'S DONE, THEN WE'LL BE DONE WITH IT.
THREE MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT, BUT IT GIVES US BETTER PROTECTION.
I'M AFTER THE MOST PROTECTION AND I DO THINK THAT SOME PARTS NEED DIFFERENT RULES THAN OTHER PARTS.
SO IF THREE DOES THAT, I'M THREE.
WELL, YOU GOTTA COME OFF THE FENCE.
ALRIGHT, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE THREE WITH THREE AND THREE WITH TWO.
AND I'M AT ONE, BUT I'M WILLING TO ACCEPT TWO.
SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH TWO.
LESLIE, WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED FROM US? UM, I, NOTHING AT THIS TIME.
I'M GONNA TRY TO GET A TIMELINE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE, HOW WE CAN FITS AND WE'LL LET GO.
[c. Present and discuss the operations and financial reconciliation for the 2025 Addison Kaboom Town!]
OKAY.UH, FOR ITEM THREE C UH, PRESENTED, DISCUSSED OPERATIONS AND FINANCIAL RECONCILIATION FOR 2025.
ADDISON, KABOOM TOWN IN CONSIDER IN THE RE IN, IN CONSIDERATION OF THE TIME.
UH, ABBY'S JUST GOING TO TAKE SOME QUESTIONS INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION.
UM, YOU ALL HAVE THE PRESENTATION IN YOUR, UH, IN YOUR, UH, IN YOUR FILE SO YOU CAN, UH, ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS TO ABBY? I HAVE QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE GOALS, UH, AND METRICS AND OBJECTIVES.
UM, SO YOU'VE GOT THE, THE GOALS THERE.
AND I GUESS I SHOULD ASK THE QUESTION IS, WHERE DID WE LAND? BECAUSE, UH, IN DOING QUICK MATH, UH, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE, THE ATTENDANCE MET THE 10%.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ONES AREN'T ON THE, UH, BY THE WAY, THE PRESENTATIONS ARE ALICE, UH, I, I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE OBJECTIVES AND, 'CAUSE WE, LAST FEBRUARY 25TH, WE SAID, WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE, UH, FOR EACH OF THE THREE EVENTS.
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ALSO BEEN GOOD TO TALK ABOUT WITH TASTE AND BRINGING THAT BACK INTO THE PICTURE.BUT ON THIS ONE, UM, SO DO WE HAVE THOSE? AND, AND IF WE DON'T, UH, I'D LIKE JUST TO SEE A FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
SO I, WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND MUCH OF TIME TONIGHT.
UM, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNSEL.
ABBY MORALES, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND GEAR.
SO ON THE GOALS, UM, SPECIFICALLY WE LOOK TO INCREASE SPONSORSHIP BY 30%.
WE ACTUALLY HIT 83% PER PERCENT INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR FOR TICKET SALES.
WE INCREASED BY 35% THIS YEAR.
WE LOOK TO LAUNCH THE MERCH PROGRAM, WHICH WE SUCCESSFULLY DID AS A CELEBRATION OF OUR 40TH ANNIVERSARY FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGE.
WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE REVENUE THERE, WE WERE LOOKING TO INCREASE THAT BY 20%, AND WE DID, IT WAS 19.6, UM, FOR, UM, WE ARE LOOKING TO MOVE TOWARDS, UM, HAVING A MAJOR BEVERAGE SPONSOR.
AS A PART OF THAT, WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE OF THE SPONSORS THAT WAS ACTIVATING ON THE GROUND.
THAT HAS FOCUSED SOME DOORS FOR US.
SO WE'RE IN CONVERSATION NOW WITH THAT.
UM, ON THE OPERATION SIDE, WE REALLY LOOKED AT THE ACCESS AND THE ANTICIPATION OF THE DART SILVER LINE UP AND RUNNING.
AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT WITH, UM, REMARKS FROM TOWN STAFF THAT WORKED THE FRONT GATE SAYING THAT IT WAS THE BUS, UM, ENTRANCE THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE THEY'VE BEEN HERE.
UM, WE LOOKED AT INCREASING, UM, ADMISSION OPPORTUNITIES AS FAR AS ACCESS WITH OPERATIONS AND LOGISTICS FOR OUR HOTEL.
YES, WHICH WE DID BY SEPARATING IT OUT FROM GENERAL ADMISSION, UM, UTILIZING ADDITIONAL FENCING FOR THE LOGISTICS AND OPERATIONS AT THE FRONT GATE, WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE.
UM, AND THEN HAVING THE, UH, NORTH CAMPUS HAVE AN ENTRANCE FOR OUR VIPS.
SO WE FELT LIKE WE ACHIEVED THAT METRIC AS WELL.
UM, TICKET REDEMPTION, WE WANTED TO KEEP IT AT ABOUT 70%, WHICH WAS, UM, OUR INITIAL STAB AT TICKET, INCREASING TICKET REDEMPTION FROM 2024.
UM, OUR TICKET REDEMPTION RATE THIS YEAR WAS 81%.
WE WANTED TO INCREASE ATTENDANCE AND ATTENDANCE INCREASED BY A THOUSAND.
I WILL NOTE THAT WE ARE LIMITED BY PUBLIC SAFETY TO A MAX OF 18,000.
AND OUR OFFICIAL ATTENDANCE NUMBER THIS YEAR WAS 17 FIVE.
AND THEN FROM, FROM A PROGRAMMING PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE JULY 3RD FELL ON A FRIDAY, WE ACTUALLY HAD A WEEKEND, UM, TO ACTUALLY PROGRAM OUT.
AND SO WE HIGHLIGHTED, UM, VARIOUS FLIGHT SITES AND THEN OF COURSE BEING A NIGHT ON JULY 3RD, UM, TO HELP PROMOTE TOURISM, UM, AS PART OF THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND.
THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.
IF WE COULD MAYBE FOLLOW UP, MIKE, WITH THE QUESTIONS AND WITH WHAT THE AXLES WERE IN A DOCUMENT BACK THAT WOULD, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT MAYBE SLIDE THAT IS MISSED FOR THE RECORD OF THE QUESTIONS.
YEAH, I MEAN, NO, WE'RE, WE'RE ALMOST AT THE CAP 18,000, UM, FOLKS IN YOU LOOKING AT THE VIP NUMBERS VERSUS THE RESIDENCE NUMBERS VERSUS THE HOTEL NUMBERS, IS THERE A WAY TO GET MORE REVENUE IF WE WERE TO DRIVE THE VIP LEVEL OF TICKET SALE? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY? YOU ARE SAYING THAT CORRECTLY, BUT WE CURRENTLY DON'T CHARGE FOR VIP, SO IT'S NOT A REVENUE OPPORTUNITY FOR US AT THIS POINT, BUT WE COULDN'T CREATE A COMPONENT FOR 26.
IT SAYS, IF YOU WANT VIPX, Y AND Z, THIS IS WHAT COMES WITH THAT TICKET.
YOU HAVE TO BUY IT AT THIS PRICE VERSUS THE $20 WE OUR RIGHT NOW.
VIPS ARE FREE, THEY DON'T COST ANYTHING.
SO COUNCIL WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT CHANGING OUR VIP MODEL.
I WOULDN'T SAY CHANGING, I WOULD SAY OFFERING A SECONDARY COMPONENT THAT YOU WOULD SELL INSTEAD OF SELLING SET NUMBER OF TICKETS AT $20, YOU CAN TRY AND SET, SELL THOSE TICKET PRICES AT $50, BUT YOU'RE GETTING A COMPONENT TO THAT TICKET.
SELL THE TICKETS, SELL THE VI NOT ALL, NOT ALL THE VIP I'M JUST SAYING, CAN YOU ADD A COMPONENT OF THE GENERAL ADMISSION OF THAT 17,005 TO GET IT TO 18,000 IF IT'S 17,000 NEXT YEAR, WE GENERATE MORE REVENUE OFF OF THE PER TICKET SALE.
SO IT'S LIKE PACKAGE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
ALMOST LIKE, OH, HOTEL PACKAGE WITHOUT, YOU'RE NOT, WITHOUT STAYING AT THE HOTEL.
IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S AN AMENITY.
WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO A WRISTBAND.
YOU GET TO DO A, B, C, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AND THAT'S FOR ALL EVENTS, BUT ESPECIALLY THIS ONE TO START OUT AND TEST IT WITH.
OR MAYBE IT IS TASTE NEXT SPRING.
WE, WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO INCORPORATE VIP WITH REVENUE STREAMS IF THAT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL WOULD LIKE.
I THINK WE ALL EXPERIENCED FOLKS THAT WERE IN THE VIP THIS YEAR IS VERY PACKED.
WE ARE ADDRESSING THE LINES AND, AND THOSE THINGS FOR THE NEXT ONE.
SO IT WOULD, IF THAT WAS A BALANCING ACT, YOU LEFT US SUE, IT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM SOME OF THE OTHER ATTENDEES THAT WE HAD.
AND YOU DID TRY THAT TWO YEARS AGO AND IT DIDN'T GO OVER SO WELL.
AS FAR AS I REMEMBER, JUST THERE WERE FOLKS IN THAT BFE WHO PAID THE, TO COME IN AND PROBABLY DOING THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DOING.
SO I MEAN, THERE PROBABLY IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR US TO RESERVE THEIR SPACE FOR MAYBE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOLKS GETTING TICKETS OUT IN OUR BUSINESS OWNER'S HANDS.
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THEM IN THAT VIP I'D PROBABLY LIKE TO SEE THAT RATHER THAN TRY TO CHARGE.I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER CHARGED FOR VFP AT COBO.
HAVE WE? WELL, ONE OF OUR, AND MAYBE IT WASN'T KOBO, BUT I THINK ONE OF OUR VANS, WE, WE TRIED TO CHARGE AND DIDN'T GO OVER VERY WELL.
I THINK WE DID SOME CHANGES ON THE VIP TRY AGAIN.
I JUST YEAH, NO, I SEE, I SEE IT.
SO THIS ISN'T REALLY KIND OF PLANNING NEXT YEAR SO MUCH AS THE REVIEW OF THIS YEAR, RIGHT? MM-HMM
SO THE, THE TOTAL DEFICIT WAS, UH, 3 23, WHICH WAS GREATER THAN LAST YEAR AND MORE IN LINE WITH THE PREVIOUS YEARS.
WHAT WAS THAT GOAL? IT'S ON, UH, 11.
SO AS SHE'S BRINGING THAT UP, I'LL SAY, THERE WE GO.
WHAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE REVENUES AND EXPENSES, WE HAD AN INCREASE IN REVENUE, WHICH WAS GREAT MM-HMM
WE HAD SEEN, UH, AS EXPENSES AS WE, WHY DID IT COST US MORE TO PUT THE EVENT ON? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY.
UH, SO OUR FIREWORKS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY AND THAT'S WHAT ABBY WILL MENTION RIGHT NOW, I'M SURE.
AND WE HAD SOME OTHER SMALL EXPENDITURES AND INCREASED.
SO THE BIGGEST LINE, I'M GONNA ACTUALLY GO BACK TO SLIDE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT EXPENSES AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE SIDE BY SIDE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, AND YOU CAN SEE THE COMPARISON, THE TWO LARGEST AREAS OF, UM, EXPENDITURES THAT YOU SAW WERE THE FIREWORKS.
THE FIREWORKS DID DOUBLE, UM, IN PRICE, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, UM, AT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL.
UM, MEANING YOU KNEW THAT THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND HIT US.
THE OTHER AREA THAT YOU SEE, THE BIGGEST INCREASE OF EXPENSES WAS ON RENTALS.
UM, THAT COMES FROM THREE MAJOR AREAS.
THE BARRIERS WERE A BIG EXPENSE THAT WENT UP SIGNIFICANTLY FROM 24 TO 25.
WHEN WE TRIED 'EM OUT OF 24, WE TRIED 'EM IN THE VERY, IN VERY LIMITED SPOTS.
AND THEN THIS YEAR WE ACTUALLY USED THE BARRICADES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TOWN.
UM, ANOTHER UM, AREA UNDER RENTALS WAS THE FENCING WHEN I TALKED ABOUT US, UM, GEARING UP FOR 2026 WHEN THE DARK SILVER LINES UP AND RUNNING, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL FENCING THAT HAD TO BE USED IN ORDER TO CREATE THE QUEUE LINES THAT WERE NECESSARY TO MANAGE THE ADMISSIONS AREA.
AND THEN THERE WAS A RESTORATION OF WHAT THE LEGACY VIP AREA USED TO BE LIKE IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
SO THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR, UM, SOME CABLE AND CHAIR RENTALS.
SO WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER SUPPOSED TO BE? THAT THAT NUMBER WAS PROBABLY GONNA BE CLOSER TO THE 76, 80,000? I MEAN, ON THE NEXT SLIDE OH, I'M SORRY.
THAT NUMBER 3 23 SHOULD HAVE BEEN THREE.
AND WE WERE EXPECTING WHAT IT WAS EXPECTED TO BE CLOSER TO THE TWO 80.
I REMEMBER THOSE CHANGES AND WE DIDN'T LIKE IT, BUT WE HAD TO HAD TO GO WITH IT.
AND THE BARRICADES WE'VE SINCE PURCHASED.
SOME, SOME, AT LEAST SOME OF THEM WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE BEST SOLUTION FOR BARRICADES.
BUT WE'VE NOT VOTED IT YET, RIGHT? CORRECT.
WE, OKAY, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE HAD THIS EXPERIENCE, BUT I THINK THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, YES, PLEASE.
UM, A COMMENT TO BEGIN WITH, YOU HAD ME, YOU HAD ME EXCITED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION WHEN ATTENDANCE WAS UP AND EVERYTHING WAS GOOD AND GOING AND GOING AND THEN YOU GET TO SLIDE 11 AND WE WERE MORE SUCCESSFUL, BUT YET WE LOST MORE MONEY.
I WOULD JUST KIND OF LIKE TO SEE US TRY TO BALANCE THAT OUT SOMEHOW.
I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE SO MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL, BUT WE SO MUCH MORE MONEY.
SO I I'M HAVING A HARD TIME NOT COMPLAINING THAT WELL FIRE, WELL FIREWORKS I UNDERSTAND.
THE FIREWORKS, THEY EXPLAINED BEFORE TO US THAT WE GOT A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT AND SO IT STAYED 75,000 FOR FIVE YEARS AND THEN WHEN THAT CONTRACT RAN OUT, IT PRICE GONNA, BUT WE ONLY HAD ONE VENDOR BID ON IT, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
WE HAD THREE OTHERS THAT, UM, SUBMITTED QUESTIONS AND THEN BASED ON THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTION, OPTED NOT TO SUBMIT BID.
WELL, I MEAN THERE'S, THERE'S FIREWORK DISPLAYS ALL OVER TOWN AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE THAN ONE COMPANY.
SO I THINK THAT IS AN AREA WE SHOULD AT LEAST TRY AND I KNOW WE, WHATEVER.
YOU PROBABLY PUT IT OUT FOR BID, BUT ONLY ONE PERSON BID.
I JUST THINK MAYBE WE NEED BE MORE PROACTIVE IN CONTACT OF MORE S COMPANIES TO SEE IF WE COULD, THAT THAT IS WHY WE HAD SUCH A BAD NUMBER.
THE RENTALS REALLY WEREN'T THE PROBLEM.
THAT DO WE HAVE THAT OPTION? ARE WE LOCKED INTO LIKE FIVE YEAR, FOUR MORE YEARS OF THE CURRENT AGREEMENT? OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT IS TWO-ISH.
DO YOU HAVE THIS? BUT IT'S 2 3 2 PLUS ONE YEAR RENEWALS, IF I'M SAYING THAT CORRECTLY.
SO WE'RE LOCKED IN FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN AFTER THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RENEW, UM, FOR ONE YEAR UP TO FIVE YEARS TOTAL.
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YEAH.WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO, YEAH, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO LOWER REQUEST 20 SINCE 2028 CONVERSATION IT SOUNDS LIKE.
WELL, NEXT YEAR WE COULD TALK ABOUT WAY OF LOWERED EXPENSES, CONTRACT.
HE'S TALKING NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH RENTALS.
AND DAVID SAID WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT BARRIERS AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE POSSIBILITIES.
THE THING ABOUT THIS EVENT THOUGH, IS MORE SO THAN THE OTHER TWO, IS THERE ARE A LOT OF INTANGIBLES HERE.
EVERY RESTAURANT, EVERY BAR IS PACKED.
SO I'M NOT HERE TRYING TO, THIS EVENT, DON'T GET ME WRONG, AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT, I HAVE FAR MORE YEP.
TOLERANCE WITH THIS ONE THAN I DO THE OTHERS.
BUT I JUST, I THINK THERE'S A WAY OF LOOKING AT FISCAL RENTALS AND THINGS TO SEE WHAT, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO MM-HMM
AND, AND JUST LIKE YOU DID THIS YEAR, TRYING TO GROW THE, THE TOP LINE EVEN MORE ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF REVENUE.
THAT'S WHY I KEEP ASKING THAT QUESTION.
WAS THERE ADVERTISING EXPENSE? IT COMES, IT COMES OUT OF THE MARKETING BUDGET.
IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY COME OUT OF THE, UM, THE EVENT BUDGET.
SO IS THIS 5, 9, 6 JUST THE EVENT BUDGET? YES SIR.
SO IT, THIS PLUS THE MARKETING BUDGET.
HAVE YOU LOST MORE THAN WE CAN? UM, I WOULD HAVE TO.
AMBER, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER FROM THE MARKETING SIDE ON THE BUDGET OR KABOOM.
PUT THE TOURISM SIDE, BUT, BUT UM, NO, I CAN GET THAT NUMBER FOR YOU FOR MARY WHEN SHE WORKS BACK.
OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU ABBY.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S THE LAST OF OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS. SO THE SECOND BRIEF RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL, UH, RECONVENE AND COUNCIL CHAMBERS FINISH UP.
[ COUNCIL MEETING The Addison City Council will convene for a Council Meeting beginning at 7:00 PM in the Town Hall Council Chambers.]
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.IT IS 7 32 AND UH, WE WILL RECONVENE THE COUNCIL INTO REGULAR A REGULAR SESSION MEETING, UM, THIS EVENING.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE, EVERYBODY.
AND AS ALWAYS, WE'D LIKE TO START OUR MEETINGS WITH THE PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS.
IF YOU PLEASE RISE AS YOU'RE ABLE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANCE ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS.
ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVISIBLE.
[2. Proclamations / Presentations]
ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PROCLAMATIONS PRESENTATIONS TWO, A CITY MANAGERS ANNOUNCEMENTS AND TWO B EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION.
WE HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT.
FIRST, BRING YOUR FURRY FRIENDS AND FAMILY FOR A SPOOKTACULAR DAY OF FUN AT VITRUVIAN PARK.
IT'S IN THE PARKING LOT NEAR THE SAND VOLLEYBALL COURTS ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 18TH FROM 10:00 AM TO 2:00 PM FOR HOW OWING
THERE WILL BE A PET COSTUME CONTEST BEGINNING AT 10 30 AND EAST LAKE VETERINARY HOSPITAL WILL BE OFFERING 300 FREE VACCINATIONS.
ADDISON ANIMAL SERVICES WILL BE OFFERING 75 MICROCHIPS TO HELP REUNITE PETS WITH THEIR FAMILIES IF THEY EVER GET LOST, PLEASE COME OUT.
NEXT, THIS FALL'S SH UH, THIS FALL'S SHRED EVENT IS EXPANDING.
JOIN US ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 22ND FROM 9:00 AM TO 3:00 PM JUST SOUTH OF ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, ON FESTIVAL WAY FOR A SHRED RECYCLING AND HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE COLLECTION EVENT.
IN ADDITION TO THE FREE ONSITE SHEDDING, UH, SHREDDING FOR BOTH RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS, RECYCLING SERVICES WILL ALSO BE OPEN TO EVERYONE.
ADDISON RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO DISPOSE OF HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE, INCLUDING PAINT, BATTERIES AND POLE CHEMICALS WITH PROOF OF RESIDENCY.
FINALLY, JOIN US ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 23RD AT 6:00 PM AT BITTER SISTERS.
FOR OUR NEXT SIP SCOOPS, YOU'LL HAVE THE CHANCE TO MEET WITH THE MAYOR MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL AND OTHER, UH, KEY CITY OFFICIALS, INCLUDING CFO STEVEN GLICKMAN, WHO WILL BE ON HAND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET.
WHETHER YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT UPCOMING PROJECTS, CITY SERVICES, OR HOW THE BUDGET IMPACTS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN MORE AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION.
GOOD EVENING, UH, LESLIE AND I'M DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
UM, I AM PLEASED TO INTRODUCE, UH, MIGUEL ANA.
HE IS OUR NEWEST EMPLOYEE IN ANIMAL SERVICES,
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UH, AS OUR ANIMAL SERVICES SUPERVISOR.AS OF SEPTEMBER 22ND OF THIS YEAR.
UH, MIGUEL GREW UP IN NORTH TEXAS IN FARMER'S BRANCH TO BE EXACT, AND GRADUATED FROM RL TURNER HIGH SCHOOL.
MIGUEL HAS BEEN MARRIED TO HIS WIFE PAMELA FOR 11 YEARS, AND TOGETHER THEY SHARE 24 YEARS OF PARTNERSHIP.
THEY ARE PROUD PARENTS TO TWO SONS, MICHAEL NINE AND ANDREW EIGHT, WHO KEEP THEIR FAMILY LIFE VERY ACTIVE AND FULL OF ENERGY.
WITH MORE THAN 15 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN ANIMAL SERVICES, MIGUEL BRINGS STRONG LEADERSHIP AND A DEEP COMMITMENT TO ANIMAL WELFARE TO THE TEAM.
HE WAS HONORED WITH THE JAMES FRY FIELD OFFICER AWARD FROM THE TEXAS ANIMAL CONTROL ASSOCIATION FOR HIS PROFESSIONALISM AND EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE.
ONE OF HIS PROUDEST ACHIEVEMENTS WAS LEADING A DEPARTMENT THAT MAINTAINED A HUNDRED PERCENT SAFE RATE FOR ALL ADOPTABLE ANIMALS, REFLECTING HIS DEDICATION TO BOTH ANIMALS AND THE COMMUNITY.
BEYOND HIS PROFESSIONAL SUCCESS, MIGUEL IS PASSIONATE ABOUT PERSONAL HEALTH AND WELLBEING.
AFTER EMBRACING A HEALTHIER LIFESTYLE, HIS PHYSICIAN SHARED THAT HIS LAB RESULTS REFLECTED A HEALTHY THE HEALTH OF AN ATHLETE.
THIS HAS MOTIVATED HIM TO CONTINUE HIS WELLNESS JOURNEY.
A LOYAL DALLAS COWBOYS FAN AND A SUPPORTER OF THE MAVERICKS RANGERS AND STARS.
MIGUEL BRINGS THE SAME TEAM SPIRIT AND PERSEVERANCE TO HIS ROLE IN ADDISON.
WHEN ASKED WHAT INSPIRED HIM TO JOIN THE TE THE TOWN, MIGUEL SHARED THAT ADDISON'S VALUES MIRROR HIS OWN, ESPECIALLY ITS FOCUS ON SERVICE, KINDNESS AND EXCEEDING EXPECTATIONS TO HIM, THE ADDISON WAY MEANS LEADING WITH EMPATHY, TREATING EVERY PERSON AND ANIMAL WITH DIGNITY, AND FOSTERING TRUST THROUGHOUT PROFESSIONALISM AND TEAMWORK.
HE LOOKS FORWARD TO PROMOTING RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP, SUPPORTING THE COMMUNITY, AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE TOWN'S CULTURE OF SUCCESS.
EXCUSE ME, OF EXCELLENCE, BOTH.
I SAY, UH, IT'S AN HONOR, IT'S A PLEASURE IN BE SERVING.
I AWARD FOR, UH, MANY YEARS OF SERVICE HERE WITH YOU ALL.
AND YOU KNOW, WE LOVE OUR ANIMALS HERE.
I LIKE WHEN THE FAMILY SHOWS UP.
[3. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.]
VERY GOOD.UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.
COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS.
CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW.
THE COUNCIL'S NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR DISCUSSED IN THE ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
UH, THERE IS A CARD THAT YOU ALL CAN FILL OUT, UH, FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.
UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, CARDS THAT WERE FILLED OUT HERE, BUT I DO HAVE ONE THAT WAS FILLED OUT ONLINE BY, UH, KEN GNY.
SO I'LL CALL ON KEN AT THIS TIME AND IF YOU, UH, APPROACH THE, YOU GO TO THE LECTERN AND FOR THE RECORD, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE AND YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES.
MY ADDRESS, MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 45 11 80.
RICK AND BARKER HERE IN ANDERSON.
UM, THE, UH, MY COMPANY IS OPT OPTI SKY.
I'M AN AIRCRAFT ACQUISITION SPECIALIST CONSULTANT ALONG WITH I OWN AN AVIATION INSURANCE AGENCY.
TONIGHT, I WANNA ADDRESS THE UPCOMING BOAT IN TWO WEEKS FROM NOW WITH THRUST, WHICH IS, UH, GONNA BUILD A FACILITY.
WHILE I'M SURE THAT THIS VENTURE IS AT ADVANTAGEOUS TO THRUST, I DON'T THINK IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.
AND I FEEL THAT IF YOU GIVE ME 60 DAYS, ALONG WITH MY TEAM, WHICH MY TEAM INCLUDES THE FOUNDER OF, UH, GRAND HOMES.
AND GRAND HOMES IS BUILT MAYBE 200, UH, HOMES IN ADDISON, I BELIEVE, AS WELL AS 3000 EMPLOYEES HERE IN ADDISON.
WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU A, UM, PROPOSAL THAT WILL FINANCIALLY BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE CITY AND TO BRING IN MORE ADDITIONAL BUSINESS INTO ADDISON AND THE, UH, SURROUNDING AREA.
WELL, WHILE THRUST IS A LARGE TRAINING COMPANY, UM, TRAINING IS A, A VERY RISKY BUSINESS.
I KNOW I OWN AN AVIATION INSURANCE AGENCY.
I'VE BEEN A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR SINCE HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, AVIATION PREMIUMS ARE EXTREMELY HIGH
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ON, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE HIGHEST WHEN IT COMES TO AVIATION TRAINING.SO FURTHER TRAINING ACTIVITIES HERE AT ADDISON, WHAT THAT'S GONNA DO IS IT'S GONNA LIMIT CORPORATIONS, YOU KNOW, FOR TAKEOFF, MAYBE 30 MINUTES MORE.
WE, WE WAIT IN LINE A LONG TIME WITH ALL THESE SMALL AIRPLANES AND OTHER AIR, OTHER CORPORATIONS GO TO LOVE FIELD INSTEAD OF COMING INTO ADDISON WHEN THEY MIGHT HAVE A MEETING HERE, WHILE HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT YOU WOULD CHOOSE THE PROPOSAL THAT I WILL BRING TO YOU, I SAID, I BELIEVE THAT YOU OWE IT TO THE CITIZENS OF ADDISON TO AT LEAST LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL AND USE IT AS A LITMUS TEST TO, AGAINST ANY OTHER PROPOSAL THAT YOU MAY DO OR EVEN THE THRUST PROPOSAL.
OUR PROPOSAL WILL CLEAR INCLUDE A FIRST CLASS JET FACILITY WITH LARGE MAIN HANGERS AND LARGE, UH, MEDIUM SIZED CABIN HA UH, CLASS AIRCRAFT HANGERS ON SIERRA.
WE'LL ALSO ADD AN ADDISON MEMORIAL PARK AT THE CORNER OF ADDISON ROAD AND, UH, AT, AT THE CORNER OF, UH, EDDIE RICKENBACKER AND, UH, WHERE AIRPORT PARKWAY IS.
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON THE AIRPORT 43 YEARS AND, AND I HEAR OFTEN THAT THRUST, YOU KNOW, IT BRINGS A LOT OF DRAG TO THE AIRPORT.
I WANNA LIFT IT UP WITH DEVELOPMENT IN THE CORPORATE WORLD.
SO IT BRINGS THE, UH, EXCITEMENT TO ADDISON WITH BIGGER AND BETTER CORPORATE HOMES.
UH, I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THIS UNTIL I, I MET STEVEN BROOKS, THE, UH, OWNER OF GRAND HOMES AND HIS SON IS A TENANT IN MY BUILDING.
AND WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S TIME NOW AND I THINK THAT WE CAN BRING SOMETHING TO PROPOSAL TO YOU THAT YOU SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT BECAUSE I THINK THIS WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE ADDISON AIRPORT.
UH, THE, THE, UH, WE DID HAVE ONE EMAIL THAT WAS SENT TO COUNSEL TODAY, UH, BY, UH, INITIAL B LEE AND ROSEANNE HOPWOOD.
THAT, UH, EMAIL WILL BE, UM, AVAILABLE, UH, ONLINE AS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT AS PART OF THE, UH, PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD.
AND, UH, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT, WE'RE SEEING NONE.
[4. Consent Agenda. All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]
PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR, CONSENT AGENDA.CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT INCLUDES ITEMS FOUR A THROUGH FOUR P AND RANDY, I BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WANTED TO PULL SOMETHING.
UH, LET ME CALL OUT THE LETTERS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, PULL ASIDE FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
SO YOU WANTED TO PULL THOSE, UH, YOUR OWN.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MOST OF THESE HAVE THE, HAVE THE, I HAVE THE SAME CONCERN WITH, UH, THERE, THERE WILL BE SOME UNIQUE ONES, UH, AS WE GO ALONG, BUT MOST OF 'EM I HAVE THE SAME CONCERN WITH, AND IT HAS TO DO, UM, UH, WITH, WITH THE FUNDING, THE NONPROFIT FUNDING THAT, UH, UH, WE ARE PRESENTING.
AND MY MAIN OBJECTION, OR MY MAIN CONCERN, I WILL SAY NOT OBJECTION, IS THAT COUNSEL WAS NOT BROUGHT IN ON ANY OF THESE DECISIONS.
IT WAS SIMPLY A COMMITTEE OF THREE WITHOUT ANY CONSULTATION WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.
UH, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO SEE ANY OF THE, THE, UH, PROPOSALS.
WE WERE NOT ABLE TO BE, UH, IN, IN THE SELECTION PROCESS AS TO WHO, UH, GOT THESE GRANTS, WHO DIDN'T GET THESE GRANTS, UH, WHAT THEIR CORRELATION TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON WAS.
I, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THESE.
UH, AND THE, THE, THE ITEMS THAT I HAVE PULLED ASIDE, UH, THEY TALLY UP TO JUST A LITTLE OVER $3 MILLION IN TAX MONEY.
AND I JUST THINK, UH, A FIGURE OF THAT MAGNITUDE DESERVES A LITTLE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND, UH, UM, TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHAT'S, UH, WHAT THEIR MONEY IS BEING SPENT ON WITHOUT JUST A CONSENT VOTE AND NO, UH, DISCUSSION ON IT WHATSOEVER.
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WELL, SO, SO THERE ARE SOME, SOME OF THE ONES THAT YOU MENTIONED HERE ARE NOT PART OF THE NONPROFIT FUNDING, THOUGH? THAT'S CORRECT.THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING SO LET'S, LET'S CLARIFY THAT.
IT'S NOT $3 MILLION WORTH OF NONPROFIT.
YOU'RE, I I SAID THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF ALL OF THE ONES THAT I HAVE PULLED ASIDE.
UH, WERE A LITTLE OVER $3 MILLION THAT, UH, OF TAX MONEY.
IT'S JUST TWO DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS REALLY.
IT'S TWO DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS.
BUT I, I WANTED TO PULL 'EM ALL ASIDE SO WE COULD, UH, DISCUSS THESE AND, AND MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS HOW, HOW THIS MONEY WAS AWARDED AND, AND WHY WAS AWARDED.
SARAH, DID YOU HAVE A RESPONSE FOR US, OR NOT YET? ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE FOR ME.
I, I GUESS JUST MY COMMENT IS THAT YOU'RE CORRECT.
WE WERE TRYING TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE, SO WE FORMED A THREE PERSON COMMITTEE AND THAT WAS A WAY OF VETTING ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT REQUESTED FUNDS FROM THE TOWN.
BUT THEN WE HAD A WHOLE BUDGET PROCESS THAT WENT MONTHS WHERE WE ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE OUR OPINION.
SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT YOU WANT TO COME OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION.
I KNOW WE HAD MONTHS ON THAT, THE ON ON THE BUDGET PROCESS.
IT WOULD EITHER GET TOO LATE AT NIGHT AND WE'D PUT THAT OFF, OR IT WOULD COME UP TO IT AND, AND WE NEVER GOT AROUND TO DISCUSSING IT.
MY COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED AT ANY INDIVIDUAL, ANY ONE OF THE THREE THAT WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE.
MY ONLY, UH, UH, POINT OF, OF, OF MAKING HERE IS WE ARE A COUNCIL THAT IS ELECTED TO SPEND THE PEOPLE'S MONEY, NOT JUST THREE OF US.
AND I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN THE PRESENTATIONS.
I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE BEEN, I THINK THE ENTIRE COUNCIL SHOULD BE PART OF THAT VETTING PROCESS, UH, WHEN WE START SPENDING THAT KIND OF MONEY.
IF I COULD JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF SURE.
JUST SO OBVIOUSLY THE SUBCOMMITTEE MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.
I'M SURE Y'ALL CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT.
BUT AS FAR AS THE PROCESS LAST YEAR, THE SUBCOMMITTEE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION.
IT DID COME UP DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.
WE PROVIDED ALL THE PRESENTATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL.
THERE WAS A LINK WHERE YOU COULD SEE EVERY SINGLE PRESENTATION.
THEY WERE PUBLICLY, THEY WERE, THEY WERE AVAILABLE NOT ONLY THE PRESENTATIONS, BUT THE APPLICATION.
SO ALL THAT INFORMATION WAS AVAILABLE.
SO I'M NOT DISCOUNTING THE, YOUR, YOUR QUESTIONING AND THE CONVERSATION FROM COUNCIL ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE PROCESS, BUT THAT WAS A PART OF THE BUDGET DISCUSSION.
I I, I NEVER, I WASN'T MADE AWARE THAT THE LINKS OF ALL THE PRESENTATIONS WERE THERE.
I I NEVER SAW THAT IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO ALL I WAS, ALL THAT I SAW WAS THAT THIS IS WHAT THE COMMITTEE, WHAT, WHAT DID YOU CALL IT? NOT A COMMITTEE, BUT A WHATEVER SUBCOMMITTEE.
HERE'S WHAT THEY'VE DECIDED AND HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
NEVER REALLY TALKED ABOUT ANYTHING INDIVIDUALLY OR, OR PUT IT OUT THERE.
UM, WELL, THE SUBCOMMITTEE BROUGHT FORWARD RECOMMENDATIONS AND THESE, AND THIS WAS ALL PART OF THE BUDGET AND THE BUDGET HAS BEEN APPROVED.
AND THESE ARE RESOLUTIONS TO, TO CODIFY BASICALLY THOSE, THOSE, THE, THE, THOSE ITEMS IN THE BUDGET AS WELL AS THE ITEMS THAT IT'S FOR, UH, ON ITEM, UH, FOUR N FOR THE, UM, UH, THE, FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT APPARATUS.
YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ALSO PART OF THE BUDGET.
SO, SO NONE OF THIS IS NEW IS NOW, NONE OF THIS IS NEW.
THIS IS ALL, THIS WAS ALL PART OF THE BUDGET THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY.
THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE SEEN OF THIS FIRE APPARATUS.
THERE WAS NEVER A TALK DURING OUR BUDGET PROCESS ABOUT A FIRE APPARATUS.
I KNOW OF ONE THAT WAS APPROVED BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL AND ELECTED.
AND I, I'M NOT HATING ON THIS FIRE EQUIPMENT, DON'T GET ME WRONG.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT'S GOING AND HOW WE'RE PAYING FOR A HUN $1.9 MILLION FIRE.
IT WAS, IT WAS IN THE PRESENTATION ON JULY 1ST WHERE WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE CAPITAL ITEMS. SO I CAN POINT YOU TO THAT.
UM, AND WE'RE, WE'RE PAYING THROUGH IT THROUGH CO ISSUANCE AND IT'LL BE PAID THROUGH THE DEBT SERVICE FUND.
SO DID WE, DID WE LOSE A FIRE ENGINE THROUGH CATASTROPHIC, A WRECK OR FIRE? THIS IS A REPLACEMENT OF, OF A CI.
ASSISTANT CHIEF CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
MAYOR COUNCIL CJ ALEXANDER, YOUR ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF.
UH, WHAT WAS YOUR THAT QUESTION? WELL, THE QUESTION IS DID WE LOSE A, DID WE, WAS THERE A, WHAT IS THE EMERGENCY? HOW, WHY ARE WE FUNDING THIS THROUGH EMERGENCY FUNDS OF COS DID WE LOSE A FIRE ENGINE IN, IN WRECKS OR IN A FIRE OR WAS IT DESTROYED SOMEHOW? SO WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY NEED TO FUND THIS THROUGH COS SO THE, SO COS ARE, ARE NOT ONLY FOR EMERGENCY, I MEAN I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT AN EMERGENCY EXPENDITURE.
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ARE FUNDED THROUGH COS WHICH IS AN APPROPRIATE USE OF COS.AND THIS IS A, THIS IS A, OUT OF THE, THE SURF FUND.
IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A RECURRING THING.
THE CURRENT APPARATUS IS AT THE END OF IT LIFE EXPECTANCY.
AND SO WE PLANNED FOR THIS FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
WE PLANNED TO GET THIS APPARATUS HERE 'CAUSE IT TAKES ANYWHERE FROM 18 TO 36 MONTHS TO GET AN APPARATUS BUILT AND READY FOR THE STREET.
AND, UH, SO WE, WE CAME TO COUNCIL, CAME TO THE CITY MANAGER AND TALKED ABOUT THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, ABOUT WHEN WE NEEDED IT AND HOW LONG IT TOOK TO GET HERE.
AND THE CURRENT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS, IS AT THE END OF ITS LIGHT EXPECTANCY AND IT'S TIME TO DOWNGRADE IT.
HOW OLD IS THE CURRENT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT? IT'S, IT'S RIGHT AROUND 16 YEARS OLD.
I JUST DON'T RECALL THAT IN ANY OF OUR BUDGET.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS A SECONDARY PAYMENT ON THE ONE THAT WAS APPROVED BEFORE I GOT HERE, OR IF THIS WAS A SEPARATE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
APPARENTLY IT'S A SEPARATE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
IT'S TWO, TWO DIFFERENT PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.
THIS WILL BE REPLACE QUT 1 0 1 0 2, THE NEW ONE'S COMING IN.
IT WILL BE THE NEW QUT 1 0 2, WHICH IS THAT STATION TWO, THE ONE YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
THE TILLER IS GONNA BE TRUCK 1 0 1.
UH, AND THAT SHOULD HOPEFULLY BE HERE.
WE'LL HAVE THIS CONVERSATION THIS TIME NEXT YEAR AS WELL, HOPEFULLY.
CAN I, CAN I CHIME IN ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? SO, UM, WHEN WAS THE BACK TO THE NONPROFIT? 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED THEN WE'RE JUST KIND OF STRAYING AROUND ALL OVER THE AGENDA.
UM, SO WHEN WAS THE COMMITTEE DECIDED AND HOW WAS THAT DECIDED? WHY DID WE DECIDE TO DO THAT? I, I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I THINK THE HISTORY'S GOOD.
I CAN TELL YOU WHAT, I THINK THE COUNCIL VOTED ON IT AND WE APPOINTED THREE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL TO GO REPRESENT US TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS.
SO THE, THE, UH, THE, ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS AND ALL OF THE PROPOSALS ARE AVAILABLE AND WERE SENT TO US THROUGH EMAIL.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I MISSED, SO DON'T GET ME WRONG.
SO THAT'S THE BACKGROUND ON THAT.
SO ALL THAT STUFF IS AVAILABLE, UH, FOR US.
THAT HAPPENED BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL.
NO, THAT WAS THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
WELL, THE THREE PERSON WAS BEFORE HE WAS ON COUNCIL, CORRECT? CORRECT.
BUT THE APPLICATIONS AND ALL OF THAT SAUSAGE WAS THROUGH OUR BUDGET PROCESS.
SO THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO GO READ AND, AND OBSERVE, UM, ASK THE QUESTIONS OF, UM, AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS.
I SEND IN A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND GET 'EM ANSWERED ONTO THE FIRE.
UM, SO IN, IN EACH OF THE AGENDA ITEMS, IF YOU GO TO THE AGENDA ITEM, THERE'S AN AGENDA CAPTION, AND THEN THERE'S A BACKGROUND.
AND IT TELLS THE WHOLE STORY ON OCTOBER 25TH, 2023.
UM, THAT'S WHEN WE DISCUSSED IT THE FIRST TIME.
SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHEN WE GAVE THEM DIRECTION THAT YOU CAN GO DO THIS IN 23, JUST LIKE CJ JUST SAID.
SO NOW IT COMES UP, WE GOTTA SPEND THE MONEY.
SO THEN WE SAY, OKAY, NOW IT'S IN THE BUDGET, WE ARE, WE GONNA SPEND THE MONEY AND WE SPEND THE MONEY.
AND NOW THIS IS JUST THE RESOLUTION TO SAY, GO SPEND WHAT WE ALREADY APPROVED TO DO, GO SPEND.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT.
LET'S GO BACK TO THE ITEMS THAT HE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, I HAVE A COMMENT.
I, I WAS GONNA SAY, I MEAN, I QUESTIONED IT IN THE WORK SESSION TOO.
MILLION 9 93 AND I DO REMEMBER THE 2.7 MILLION TILLER.
AND IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT HAPPENED IN 23, I WASN'T ON COUNCIL EITHER.
SO IF IT CAME UP IN THE BUDGET, YOU SAID JULY 1ST? I DON'T REMEMBER US DISCUSSING IT AT ALL.
DID WE DISCUSS IT ON JULY 1ST? YEAH, IT WAS ON SLIDE 18 IN THAT PRESENTATION.
IF YOU GO TO THE JULY 1ST PRESENTATION.
I MEAN, WE SEE A LOT OF PRESENTATIONS.
I TOTALLY, I I, THAT'S WHY I ASKED EARLIER, IS IT MONEY FOR THAT OTHER ONE OR IS THIS ANOTHER FIRE ENGINE? THEY'RE SO EXPENSIVE.
AND SO I, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT AS WELL.
WELL, I'M GONNA GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE VIDEO ON THAT JULY 1ST.
I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING ME THAT DAY.
UH, TYPICALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FIRE EQUIPMENT, IT PEAKS MY EARS AND I WOULD REMEMBER THAT.
I, I HAVE NO RECOLLECTION OF, OF TALKING ABOUT THAT.
NOT THAT I AM OPPOSED TO IT NOT AN ISSUE.
I'M, I, I WANTED TO FIND OUT HOW IT WAS BEING FUNDED AND WHEN WE, WHEN WE DISCUSSED THAT.
SO, UM, LET'S GO, LET'S GO BACK TO C FOR A MINUTE.
WHEN, WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS, UH, WATER TOWER THEATER, WE HAD A VERY LONG DISCUSSION ON THAT, UH, IN A WORK SESSION AND, AND WE HAD AGREED TO ON, ON A FUNDING MODEL FOR THAT.
HOW, WHAT FUNDING MODEL ARE WE LOOKING AT ON THAT? WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN OUR MEETING AND AGREED TO A SMALL DOWN PAYMENT AND THEN PAYMENTS ALONG THE WAY.
AS LONG AS THEY RAISED MONEY AND WE DID MATCHING FUNDS, WE, WE PUT THAT IN THE COUNCIL Q AND A.
BUT WE CAN COME IN THE COUNCIL Q AND A HAS THAT LISTED OUT, BUT WE CAN COME AND SPEAK TO THE FUNDING MODEL.
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DID RANDY, DID YOU GET A COPY OF THE, THE QUESTION AND ANSWERS? I HAVEN'T THAT I KNOW OF.YEAH, PAGE, PAGE TWO, UH, SPELLS ALL OF THAT OUT.
YOU JUST WANNA WALK IT, WALK THROUGH AT ABBY.
ABBY MORALES, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR.
AND SO THE DESIGN MODEL IS LISTED HERE ON THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF.
IT'S ARTICLE SEVEN, WHICH IS TITLED FUNDING.
AND THE BREAKDOWN IS AS FOLLOWS.
THERE'S INCENTIVE FUNDING, UM, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 340,000.
THERE'S ALSO AN IN KIND CONTRIBUTION, AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 20,000 AS AN OFFSET FOR THEIR RENTAL FEES.
AND THEN A WAIVER OF THE LICENSE FEE NOT TO EXCEED 20,000.
UM, AND THEN IT WOULD BE PAYABLE AS FOLLOWS.
AND SO THEY WOULD GET AN INITIAL PAYMENT OF 50% AND THAT WOULD BE GIVEN TO THEM CREDIT TO PROVE ON OCTOBER 17TH IN THE AMOUNT OF $170,000, THEY WOULD RECEIVE MONTHLY INSTALLMENTS, UM, FROM DECEMBER 1ST THROUGH SEPTEMBER 1ST IN THE AMOUNT OF $17,000 PER MONTH.
THEIR IN KIND CONTRIBUTION FOR RENTAL FEES WOULD BE RENTAL FEES THAT ARE INCURRED FOR REHEARSAL PRODUCTION AUDITIONS AND DARK NIGHTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PERFORMANCES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING, UM, EQUAL TO THE RENTAL FEES DUE NOT TO EXCEED 20,000.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE WAIVER OF THEIR LICENSE FEE WOULD BE INCURRED MONTHLY FOR OFFICE SPACE, THE SHARED SCENE SHOP IN THE, IN THE FACILITY, AS WELL AS ONSITE STORAGE IN THE SHARED AREAS, NOT TO EXCEED 20,000.
ANYTHING ELSE, RANDY? YES, SIR.
I'M GONNA SKIP THROUGH A BUNCH OF THESE, MAYOR, BECAUSE MY, MY, MY POINT WAS THE SAME ON THESE.
THAT, THAT IT JUST CAME FROM A, A SUBCOMMITTEE.
UH, CAN WE GET A LIST OF ALL THE ONES THAT WERE PULLED AGAIN? I MISSED IT.
C THE, UM, THE, UH, DO WE KNOW THE 25,000 TO JFS DO WE KNOW WHEN THEY WILL BE OPERATIONAL? AND, AND WHEN IS THIS GRANT THAT WE AWARDED THEM, WHEN WILL THAT BE PRESENTED TO THEM? WILL IT BE PRESENTED BEFORE THEY EVER BECOME OPERATIONAL? OR IS THIS TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR OPERATIONS ONCE THEY GET HERE? UH, THE AGREEMENT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.
UH, AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE OPENING THIS FALL.
I'M GONNA SEE IF LESLIE MIGHT HAVE A BETTER ESTIMATION DATE FOR THAT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
I THINK THEY'RE SHOOTING FOR FEBRUARY 1ST.
NOW THEY'RE ALREADY OPERATIONAL.
THEY'VE BEEN OPERATIONAL FOR A COUPLE.
HOW, HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN OPERATIONAL? A COUPLE DECADES OR MORE.
SO YEAH, THEY'RE ALREADY OPERATIONAL AND THEY'RE OVER ARAPAHOE AND MONFORT OVER NEAR YOU, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, ALREADY OPERATIONAL.
AND I JUST WAS WONDERING WHEN THEY WOULD BE WITH US.
I'M, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THEM BEING HERE.
THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE SOME GREAT SERVICES FOR OUR TOWN.
WHAT IS, UH, UH, APPROVING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN TOWN OF ADDISON AND CODE RISE? RIZ, HOW YOU PRONOUNCE IT? WHAT IS THAT? UH, THAT'D BO GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, THAT WOULD BE AN AGREEMENT FOR GIS, UH, SERVICES FOR THE AIRPORT GIS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT, UH, UH, ASSISTANCE FOR THE AIRPORT, UH, INPUTTING ANY TYPE OF, UM, AS-BUILT INTO THE GIS SYSTEM FOR PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE CONCLUDED, LIKE THE RECENT, UH, TAX WAY, BRAVO.
UM, AND THEN ALSO CONTINUING TO INPUT INFORMATION RELATED TO OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT, UH, SYSTEM AND ALL THE ASSETS AND DETERMINING THEIR CONDITIONS AND VALUES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
WHAT FUND WILL THAT BE COMING FROM? THE AIRPORT FUND.
THAT IS THE, THAT IS AN AIRPORT FUND.
UM, THANK YOU FOR, UH, INDULGING ME ON THAT, MR. MAYOR.
WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION ON THOSE.
AND I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE CONSENT.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOUR EIGHT THROUGH P.
WHO IS THE SECOND ON THAT? DAN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
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PLEASE SEE, WHAT, WHAT DID YOU SAY? FOUR A TO B.[a. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request to rezone a 1.57-acre property, located at 4850 Airport Parkway, from Mixed-Use Center (M-4) to Mixed-Use Suburban Corridor (M-2) zoning district, for a 29-unit, fee-simple townhouse development. Case 1941-Z/4850 Airport Parkway Rezoning.]
OKAY.WE HAVE SOME, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS HERE.
FIVE A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSSED, AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO REZONE A 1.57 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 48 50 AIRPORT PARKWAY FROM MIXED USE CENTER M FOUR TO MIXED USE SUBURBAN CORRIDOR M TWO ZONING DISTRICT FOR A 29 UNIT FEE.
SIMPLE TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT CASE, 1941 DASH Z SLASH 48 50 AIRPORT PARKWAY REZONING.
AND I'M DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
UM, THE, UH, I DO NOT HAVE A FORMAL APPLICATION FOR YOU THIS EVENING.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM INDEFINITELY.
UM, AND, UH, WE WILL RE-NOTICE ONCE THEY RE-ENGAGE, STAFFED AS THEY'VE SELECTED A DATE TO BRING THIS ITEM BACK, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION.
UM, BUT IT WAS NOTICE FOR THIS EVENING.
UM, SO I WOULD ASK THAT, UM, A PUBLIC HEARING IS HELD.
SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TO THE COUNCIL, YOU CAN COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE WILL DO WE NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER ACTION POSTPONED? SO THAT, THAT I, WHAT'S THAT? CAN WE POSTPONE THIS ITEM? IT'S JUST BEING PULLED FROM THE AGENDA.
IT'LL BE RENO IF THEY COME BACK.
CAN WE ASK? YOU'LL HAVE TO RE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
WHY WAS IT PULLED? IS THAT APPROPRIATE TO ASK? IS THERE, ARE THERE HANGUPS OR IS IT WITH THE CITY OR WITH THE DEVELOPER? CAN WE ASK WHY? YEAH, OF COURSE.
UH, WE ARE CONTINUING TO ELABORATE ON, SO TYPICALLY WITH THE ZONING PROCESS, SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THEY ARE REZONING TO A STRAIGHT ZONING DISTRICT.
'CAUSE UNDER THE UDC, WE NOW HAVE A ZONING DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT BY WRIGHT.
SO THEY, THEY'RE ABLE TO EXPEDITE THEIR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR THEM.
SO THIS WAS A BIG WIN, UM, AS FAR AS THE UDC IS CONCERNED.
HOWEVER, WHAT THAT MEANS IS THEIR DUE DILIGENCE WAS NOT AS ADVANCED WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THE ZONING APPLICATION.
UM, AND SO AS THEY PURSUED THE DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS THROUGH PRELIMINARY UTILITY AND DRAINAGE, UH, THEY JUST DISCOVERED SOME ITEMS THAT REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE THEY PROCEED WITH THE REZONING.
SO, UH, THEY JUST WANT TO DELAY AND WHILE THEY WORK OUT ANY POTENTIAL, UM, HURDLES, UM, AND SO THAT THEY CAN GUARANTEE, I GUESS, THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
SO THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH THE DRAINAGE.
IS THAT WHAT I'M, IS THAT THE, THERE'S, UH, NOT PROBLEM INTERPRETATION.
NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CAN, UH, COMPLY WITH OUR DRAINAGE, UH, STANDARDS.
SO IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO THEY, IT IS A REQUIREMENT OF OUR DRAINAGE, UM, MANUAL CRITERIA.
DRAINAGE CRITERIA MANUAL THAT, UH, YOU CANNOT OUTPUT MORE DRAINAGE ON YOUR PROPERTY THAN YOU CURRENTLY DO.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A, UM, A NET ZERO IMPACT ON OUR DRAINAGE.
AND SO THEY'RE HAVING TO, THIS IS A GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT AND THEY'RE DEVELOPING IT.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UM, TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A, UM, DEEPER DIVE, IF YOU WILL.
A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS ARE REDEVELOPMENTS, SO YOU'RE TAKING, IN A LOT OF CASES WHEN WE SEE MAJOR REDEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY INCREASING THE OPEN SPACE.
SO THE DRAINAGE IS GETTING BETTER IN TERMS OF, UM, KEEPING IT ON SITE.
SO THEY'RE HAVING TO, UM, TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH.
SO THEY'RE JUST HAVING TO EVALUATE WHAT TYPE OF DRAINAGE, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO UTILIZE ON SITE, WHETHER THAT'S UNDERGROUND OR ANOTHER SOLUTION.
LESLIE, IS, IS THAT SEWER DRAINAGE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OR JUST THAT'S STORM WATER.
SO THAT'S GONNA INCREASE BY BUILDING ON TOP OF THE, BECAUSE IT'S JUST RAW LAND RIGHT NOW, CORRECT? YEAH.
SO THERE IS, IT IS GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S NO, UM, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
SO IF YOU CONSIDER TODAY THE RUNOFF IS ZERO, WHEN THEY ADD CONCRETE AND HOMES, IT WILL INCREASE THE RUNOFF I UNDER.
THAT ITEM IS PULLED FOR IN THE POSTPONED, UH, UNTIL, FOR UNTIL A LATER DATE.
[b. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request for a Special Use Permit (SUP) for property located at 5100 Belt Line Road, Suite 776, that is currently zoned Planned Development (PD), through Ordinance Nos. O23-03, to allow late-night hours of operation for a restaurant with indoor entertainment (darts) and the sale of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption. Case 1936-SUP/5100 Belt Line Road, Suite 776 (Flight Club).]
SO ITEM FIVE B, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.SUP FOR PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 5,100 BELT LINE ROAD, SUITE 7 76.
THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD THROUGH ORDINANCE NUMBERS OH TWO THREE DASH ZERO THREE TO ALLOW LATE NIGHT HOURS OF OPERATION FOR A RESTAURANT WITH INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT DARTS AND THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES
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FOR ON-PREMISES CONSUMPTION CASE 1936 DASH SU SLASH 5,100 BELTLINE ROAD, SUITE 7 7 6 FLIGHT CLUB.LESLIE LESLIE KNIGHT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
UM, THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS SUITE 7 7 6 AT VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, WHICH IS ADDRESSED AS 5,100 BELTLINE.
UM, THIS REQUEST UNDER THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IS FOR LATE NIGHT HOURS FOR A RESTAURANT.
UM, AND AS MENTIONED, THIS, UM, PROPOSED USE WOULD ALSO INCLUDE INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT AS WELL AS THE SALE OF ALCOHOL FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, IT WAS REZONED IN 1966 TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
IT HAS, UH, EXPERIENCED A, UM, A SIGNIFICANT PD REZONING IN 2012 WITH AN AMENDMENT IN 2020.
UM, AND THEN THE, JUST FOR REFERENCE, THE SUITE IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED ON THE LEFT, ON THE SITE PLAN.
AND THEN THIS EVENING, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING A NEW SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A NEW USE, UH, WITH LATE NIGHT HOURS, UH, AT THE, IN THE SUITE LOCATION.
SO THIS PARTICULAR, UH, LOCATION INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY 9,000 SQUARE FEET OF AREA THAT INCLUDES INTERIOR AS WELL AS PATIOS, BOTH AT THE FRONT, WHICH YOU SEE HERE AT THE BOTTOM, AS WELL AS THE REAR OF THE SUITE AT THE TOP.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR CONCEPT HAS 12, I BELIEVE IT'S PRONOUNCED IES AREAS.
AND THOSE ARE THE, UM, SMALL CLUSTERS THAT HAVE THE DARTBOARD AND KIND OF A, I'M GONNA SAY HANGOUT AREA IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE DARTS, UH, WHERE YOUR GROUPS CAN, UM, PARTAKE IN THE INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITY.
AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO TWO BAR AREAS.
THERE'S SEATING THROUGHOUT, UH, FOR 308 INDIVIDUALS.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, YOU HAVE PATIO SEATING AT THE FRONT AND THE REAR, UH, AS WELL AS BAR, UH, BOOTH TABLE SEATING THROUGHOUT.
AND THERE WILL BE THE SALE OF ALCOHOL, UM, AT THIS ESTABLISHMENT.
UM, HERE'S KIND OF A CLOSEUP AREA OF THOSE, UM, IES AGAIN, I THINK I'M PRONOUNCING THAT RIGHT.
UM, UH, VERY, UM, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THEIR LOCATION IN BOSTON.
SO WITH THE FLOOR PLAN, THERE WAS ONE MODIFICATION, UM, TO THE EXTERIOR ON THE FRONT PATIO.
UH, THE FRONT PATIO IS ACTUALLY PROPOSED TO BE REDUCED BY A LITTLE OVER THREE AND A HALF FEET TO ACCOUNT FOR 80 A ACCESS ON THE FRONT OF THE, UM, PATIO AREA.
SO IT WOULD GENERALLY BE IN THIS AREA, SEE HERE.
UM, SO THE PATIO WOULD BE REDUCED IN DEPTH.
AND THEN IN REFERENCE TO THE, UH, HOURS OF OPERATION.
'CAUSE THIS IS PROPOSED TO BE A LATE NIGHT HOURS, WHICH, UH, PER DEFINITION OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IS A BUSINESS THAT'S OPEN PAST 11:00 PM AND, UH, THE, WHAT YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED ARE THE, IS THE FLIGHT CLUB'S PROPOSED CLOSING AND THEN, UM, ALL OF THE VARI THIS DESIGNATES THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT CLOSE AT THESE PARTICULAR TIMES WITHIN VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.
UH, SO YOU SEE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, IT IS PRETTY COMMON FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO EITHER CLOSE AT 10:00 PM UM, OR 1112 TIMEFRAME.
AND THEN ON THE WEEKENDS, UH, YOU SEE A KIND OF A CLUSTER AROUND 11.
AND THEN YOU HAVE SEVERAL THAT ARE OPEN UNTIL 2:00 AM ON THE WEEKENDS.
UM, FLIGHT CLUB IS PROPOSING KIND OF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, THAT, UH, SET, UH, CLOSING AT 11:00 PM DURING THE WEEK, UM, 10:00 PM ON SUNDAYS, AND THEN STAYING OPEN UNTIL MIDNIGHT ON SATURDAY, UH, EXCUSE ME, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
UM, SO THE PARKING, UH, THERE ARE NO PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS WITH THIS REQUEST TO THE EXISTING PARKING, UH, AT VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE EXTERIOR APPEARANCE, THERE ARE SOME MODIFICATIONS, UM, TO ENHANCE OR MODIFY THE AESTHETICS.
SO THEY'RE REMOVING SOME OF THE EXISTING AWNINGS.
THEY ARE, UM, UPGRADING SOME OF THE EXISTING WINDOWS TO STAINED GLASS, UM, AND ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS SUCH AS FESTOON LIGHTING AND SO FORTH ON THE PATIO AREA.
UH, ONE THING I WANNA MENTION REGARDING THE LANDSCAPING IS THEY DID HAVE TO REMOVE SOME, UH, TREES DUE TO THE A DA HEALTH, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, THE A DA COMPLIANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS COMPLIANT.
THEY DID HAVE TO ADD, UH, A RAMP, YOU SEE THAT ILLUSTRATED HERE.
UM, THERE WAS A EXISTING HOLLY TREE YOU SEE ON THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT.
IT IS A, LIKE A SMALL UNDERSTORY TREE THAT HAD TO BE REMOVED.
THEY ARE REPLACING IT ONE TO ONE AND THEY ARE ALSO, UM, ACTUALLY EXCEEDING THE OPEN SPACE.
SO WHAT THEY HAD BEFORE, UH, WAS 391 OP, UH, SQUARE FEET OF OPEN SPACE.
AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY ADDING, UH, TWO SQUARE FEET TO THAT TO RESULT IN 393, EVEN WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES.
AND THEN THE OTHER AREA, THERE ARE THREE EXISTING CREPE MYRTLES THAT ARE IN POOR HEALTH.
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PROPOSING TO, UH, REMOVE THOSE AND REPLACE THOSE WITH, UH, THREE MOUNTAIN LAURELS IN THEIR PLACE.SO, UH, WHILE WE, THEY'RE FULLY MITIGATING ON SITE WITH WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE, AND STAFF DID NOTIFY PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE, UM, INFORMING THEM OF THE PROPOSED REQUEST.
WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES TO THAT.
AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED THE REQUEST AT THE, UH, LAST MEETING.
AND WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
LESLIE, ANY QUESTIONS? HOW'S THIS GOING TO AFFECT, OR, OR DID, DID THE, UM, DID THE CURRENT BUSINESS THERE THAT DOES THE LITTLE PUTT PUTT DEAL? WHAT? PUTT SH CHECK, YEAH.
WERE THEY OPPOSED TO THIS AT ALL OR WOULD, DID THEY THINK THIS WOULD ENHANCE THEIR AREA? SO, UH, WITH THE, NO.
SO WE DID NOT, UH, ENGAGE PUTT SHACK DIRECTLY.
UH, WE NOT, SO, UH, THIS PARTICULAR NOTIFICATION, WE NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND NOT THE TENANTS.
AND IN THIS CASE, PUT SHACK WOULD'VE BEEN A TENANT.
UM, SO OBVIOUSLY THE LANDLORD IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF, UM, OKAY, THE NEW TENANT, UM, GOING IN.
BUT WE DID NOT ENGAGE WITH PUT SHACK.
THAT AN, THAT, THAT ANSWERS THAT THEN.
THE, IN ANY INCENTIVES THAT HAVE BEEN GRANTED TO THIS BUSINESS ARE, ARE THEY ASSOCIATED WITH THE CENTER OR ARE THEY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BUSINESS? UH, SO I DO BELIEVE TAX INCENTIVES THAT WERE GRANTED BY PREVIOUS COUNCILS DOES THAT, SO, SO VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY OBVIOUSLY HAS A, A LONGSTANDING TAX INCENTIVE THAT CONTINUES.
WE HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD AN INCENTIVE FOR, FOR THIS PROJECT AS WELL THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL.
WAS THIS PRIOR? WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN DID THIS START COMING IN? YOU WERE ON COUNCIL AT THE TIME.
THAT WAS OKAY? NO, I'M, I'M ALL IN FAVOR.
I'M JUST, UH, WONDERING ABOUT THAT.
LESLIE, DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD WHAT ESTABLISHMENTS ARE OPEN AT 2:00 AM IN THE CENTER? I DON'T, THE REASON I ASK I CAN GET YOU A LIST.
THAT THE, THE REASON I ASK IS, UM, DO YOU KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY NOISE COMPLAINTS FROM, I THINK IT'S CALLED SIDECAR SOCIAL.
I'M JUST WONDERING HOW YOU NEED FOR, UM, NOISE COMPLAINTS FROM OTHERS ABOUT SIDECAR SOCIAL OR FROM SIDECAR? WELL, I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS QUESTION IS HOW ARE THEY USING THE PATIOS THAT SIDECAR SOCIAL PATIO IS RATHER LARGE AND IT FACES A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS ESTABLISHMENT HAVING TWO PATIOS WON'T CAUSE ANY ISSUES.
SO DO YOU KNOW IF WE'VE HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THAT PATIO FACING A RESIDENTIAL AREA? SIDECAR SOCIAL? I, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY.
UM, THE OTHER THING I'LL, SO, UM, FLIGHT CLUB IS PROPOSING TO CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT, UM, ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
THEY'LL CLOSE AT 10:00 PM ON SUNDAY AND 11:00 PM UM, THE OTHER DAYS OF THE WEEK DURING THE, THE WEEKDAYS.
THE ONE THING I'LL NOTE, UM, THIS IS A VERY, THIS IS A PRETTY UNIQUE SUITE AND THIS WAS ACCOMMODATED DUE TO SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY DID ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
UM, BUT THE AREA THAT'S IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING TO SEE.
THAT'S ACTUALLY AN INTERIOR COURTYARD AND THAT'S WHERE THEIR PATIO WOULD BE.
SO FLIGHT CLUB'S PATIO IS ACTUALLY NOT VISIBLE FROM, LIKE, IF I WERE TO STAND OUT HERE OR ON MONTFORT AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SEE THE PATIO, WHICH THAT ALONE, UM, WILL HELP ENCLOSE ANY NOISE.
UM, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY.
BUT I CAN DEFINITELY PRO WE'D BE HAPPY TO GET YOU A LIST.
UM, 'CAUSE NOW THAT WE HAVE, UH, USED OR WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE'RE LOOKING A LOT AT LATE NIGHT HOURS AND HOW THAT COULD IMPACT OFF, UM, ADJACENT USES AND SO FORTH.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE HAVE IS DEVELOPED A LIST OF, OF HOURS OF OPERATIONS.
WELL MAYBE IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THEN MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD THING.
JUST ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MAYOR, THE, WE DO HAVE AN INCENTIVE WITH FLIGHT CLUB, BUT IT WAS A COUPLE MONTHS BEFORE YOU CAME ON BOARD, SO YOU WERE NOT ON COUNCIL AT THE TIME.
YOU'LL YOU'LL FILL ME IN ON THAT LATER? ABSOLUTELY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE? I HAVE A COUPLE, UH, THAT WAS SHERLOCK'S BEFORE, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.
WERE THERE HOURS OF OPERATION LATER? DO WE KNOW? WERE THEY ASHLEY SAYING YES.
UH, ARE THE PARKING, I KNOW THEY DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.
IS THERE PARKING REQUIREMENTS GREATER OR LESS THAN SHERLOCK'S? DO WE KNOW? UH, IS THERE ANY WAY TO KNOW THAT IT WOULD TECHNICALLY BE LESS BECAUSE THEY ARE DECREASING THEIR PATIO BY ABOUT THREE AND A HALF FEET.
UM, BUT THAT WOULD EQUATE TO MAYBE A PARKING SPACE AS FAR AS THE
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PARKING REQUIREMENT IS CONCERNED.AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO TO FIX IT.
I JUST WISH WE HAD A BETTER PARKING SITUATION FOR THAT, THAT CORNER.
WE KNOW THE, THE OPENING DATE THAT THEY'RE SHOOTING FOR, I DO NOT KNOW THE OPENING DATE, THE APPLICANT.
OH, WELL THE APPLICANTS CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I THINK FOR YOU, FOR APRIL 26TH.
ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER.
DO WE HAVE AN INCENTIVE AGREEMENT COMING AFTER THIS IN THE FUTURE? UM, AFTER THIS APPROVAL? WHEN IS IT COMING FORWARD? WE ADOPTED IT IN FEBRUARY.
YEAH, IT CAME FORWARD IN FEBRUARY.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE? ALRIGHT.
ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM CAN COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING ITEM FIVE B.
THANK YOU DARREN AND CHRIS WITH THE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[c. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request to amend the permitted use and development standards and development plans for Planned Development (PD), Ordinance No. 022-25, for a 13.78± acre property located on the west side of Midway Road, approximately 1,000 feet south of Beltway Drive and immediately north of the Redding Trail Dog Park, to allow for the construction of 30 fee-simple townhome dwelling units. Case 1940-Z/AMLI Treehouse, Phase 1 Amendment.]
[d. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request to amend the permitted use and development standards and development plans for Planned Development (PD), Ordinance No. 024-35, for an 8.02± acre property generally located at the southwest corner of Midway Road and Beltway Drive, to allow for the construction of 26 fee-simple townhome dwelling units. Case 1942-Z/AMLI Treehouse, Phase 2 Amendment.]
APPROVED.ITEM FIVE C, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PERMITTED USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD.
ORDINANCE NUMBER OH 2 0 2 2 DASH 25 FOR A 13.78 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF MIDWAY ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 1000 FEET SOUTH OF BELTWAY DRIVE, AND IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THE REDDING TRAIL DOG PARK TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF 30 FEE.
SIMPLE TOWN HOME DWELLING UNITS CASE 1940S DASH Z SLASH AMIE, TREE HOUSE PHASE ONE AMENDMENT, LESLIE, UH, AND MAYOR.
UM, I WILL ALSO BE PRESENTING ITEM D, UM, SIMULTANEOUSLY TOGETHER.
IF YOU'RE GONNA DO, UH, D THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THAT BEFORE YOU DO THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
ITEM, UH, UH, FIVE D UH, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PERMITTED USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD.
ORDINANCE NUMBER OH TWO FOUR DASH 3 5 4 AND 8.02 ACRE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MIDWAY ROAD AND BELTWAY DRIVE TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF 26 FEE.
SIMPLE TOWNHOME DWELLING UNITS CASE 1942 DASH Z SLASH AMLI.
TREEHOUSE, PHASE TWO AMENDMENT, LESLIE.
AND I'M DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
UM, AS, UH, READ, I'LL BE PRESENTING ITEM C AND D TOGETHER.
UM, THIS, UH, THE FIRST ITEM, UH, FOR THE, UM, PHASE ONE OF THE AMLI TREE HOUSE PROJECT IS, UH, APPROXIMATELY 14 ACRES, UH, OFF OF MIDWAY ROAD.
UH, THIS PARTICULAR, UM, PHASE ONE WAS APPROVED VIA ORDINANCE 22 DASH 25, AND THEN PHASE TWO, WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY NORTH, WAS APPROVED, UM, VIA ORDINANCE OH TWO FOUR DASH 0 3 5.
UM, WHICH I WILL, UH, REVIEW THE HISTORY OF BOTH OF THOSE.
AND THEN THIS, UH, ALLOWS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF 50 C 56, EXCUSE ME, FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES ACROSS BOTH, UH, PHASES OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
SO ONCE AGAIN, UM, THIS IS, UH, THE AREA FOR PHASE TWO, WHICH IS, UH, JUST OVER EIGHT ACRES.
SO IN TOTAL, UM, APPROXIMATELY 21 ACRES.
SO, UH, JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY WE'RE HERE.
SO BACK WHEN THIS PROJECT, UH, BOTH PHASES ONE AND TWO WERE, UM, APPROVED, THERE WAS, UH, SEVERAL 56 FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES THAT WERE ENVISIONED THE, UM, DEVELOPER FOR THE PROJECT.
AMWAY RESIDENTIAL NEVER INTENDED TO, UM, INSTRUCT THE CONSTRUCT THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES THEMSELVES.
THEY DID GO THROUGH A COMPETITIVE PROCESS TO SELECT A, A TOWNHOME DEVELOPER TO CONSTRUCT THOSE FEE 56 FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES.
UM, AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THEY HAVE, UH, SELECTED CADENCE HOMES, UH, TO, UM, CONSTRUCT THOSE TOWN HOMES.
UH, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT IS A EXAMPLE OF A PRODUCT THAT THEY HAVE USED IN LINK SIDE AND LOST COLINAS.
AND WHAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT, THIS IS, SO ALL THE ITEMS, EXCUSE ME, ALL THE BUILDINGS YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE ARE THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WITH THE DASH LINE BIFURCATING, PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO TO THE NORTH.
UM, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT BOTH ON THE ORIGINAL ZONING.
WHY THE NUMBERING MAY SEEM A LITTLE ODD IS BECAUSE THAT CORRESPONDS WITH THE BUILDING NUMBERING OF THE ORIGINAL ZONING.
SO IT'S CONSISTENT ACROSS ALL OF OUR ORDINANCES, UM, FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, PHASES AND SO FORTH.
SO THE SITE HISTORY FOR PHASE ONE, UM, SO BACK IN THE 1930S, THIS WAS A HOMESTEAD,
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UM, AND IT WAS DEVELOPED AS SUCH IN 1978, UH, IT WAS REZONED TO, TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF OFFICE IN THE PARK, WHICH WAS, UH, GENERALLY A SIX TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS WITH, UH, COMPRISING APPROXIMATELY 180 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE.UM, THEN IN 1979 THERE WAS THE, UM, WHICH WAS THE MCCUTCHEN FAMILY HOMESTEAD WAS ALSO REZONED TO PD AND THAT WAS, UM, CONVERTED INTO A RESTAURANT AND EVENT CENTER AS WELL.
SO THAT SITE WAS VACANT FOR MANY YEARS, UM, AND WAS GENERALLY IN DECLINE, ESPECIALLY, UH, IN THE MIDST OF THE PANDEMIC IN 2022.
UM, AMLI DID, UH, ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY AND REZONE THE PROPERTY TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW, UM, THE FACILITATION OF THE AM TREE HOUSE PHASE ONE DEVELOPMENT AND COMPRISING OF BOTH, UH, RENTAL AND FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES, AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY AND, UM, OTHER, UH, ACCESSORY USES SUCH AS RETAIL, RESTAURANT, OPEN SPACE AND SO FORTH.
FOR PHASE TWO, UM, THIS PROPERTY WAS REZONED FROM COMMERCIAL AND LOCAL RETAIL IN 1979 TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THEN IT WAS LATER A AMEND AMENDED IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES.
AND THIS PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED THE, UM, COMBINATION OF ONE AND TWO STORY RETAIL BUILDINGS.
UM, IN 2024, AMWAY ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY AND REZONED IT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHICH WAS AMWAY TREE PHASE TWO.
THIS PROJECT FACILITATED, OR EXCUSE ME, THE ZONING FACILITATED THE DEVELOPMENT OF MULTIFAMILY AND RENTAL AND FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES, AS WELL AS OTHER, UM, ACCESSORY USES AS WELL.
SO JUST LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, THIS IS PHASE ONE ON THE LEFT.
SO EVERYTHING YOU SEE HERE WAS INCLUDED WITH THE ADDITIONAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
THE ONLY ITEM WE'RE, UM, PROPOSING TO CHANGE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE THE 30, UH, THREE STORY FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES.
AND WHEN I SAY CHANGE THEM, WE ARE REALLY REFINING WHAT THOSE ARE PROPOSED TO BE.
THE USE AS A FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOME IS NOT PROPOSING TO CHANGE.
ALL THE OTHER ITEMS, AS I MENTIONED, ARE CURRENTLY BEING CONSTRUCTED AND ARE PROPOSED TO REMAIN FOR PHASE TWO.
HERE ARE SOME OTHER, UM, DETAILS ABOUT WHAT WAS APPROVED IN THE ORIGINAL ENTITLEMENTS.
AND ONCE AGAIN, THE ONLY ITEMS WE'RE LOOKING TO REFINE WITH THIS AMENDMENT ARE THE 26, UH, FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES THAT BORDER THE, UM, NEW PARK ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE BOTH PHASES ONE AND TWO.
SO I'M GONNA START WITH, UM, GOING THROUGH THE VARIOUS AMENDMENTS AND YOU'LL SEE THAT, UM, I'VE INCLUDED THE RED LINE.
YOU'LL ALSO FIND THIS IN THE MEETING PACKET IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND USE STANDARDS.
THEY'RE, UM, DIVIDED BETWEEN PHASES ONE AND PHASE TWO.
SO ONE AMENDMENT THAT WAS, UH, REQUESTED BY AMLI WAS TO MAKE A MINOR ADJUSTMENT TO ALIGN WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UH, SO BASED UPON WHAT WAS PRO APPROVED IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, ALL RESTAURANTS WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UH, REGARDLESS OF WHAT TYPE OR THE HOURS OF OPERATION WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT TOOK EFFECT SEPTEMBER 1ST, ONLY RESTAURANTS THAT WERE OPEN LATE NIGHT HOURS, WHICH IS PAST 11:00 PM REQUIRED AT SUP, UM, AM ASKED THAT THIS BE UPDATED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER RESTAURANTS IN TOWN.
SO AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS CURRENTLY, UM, OCCUPIED BY RODEO GOAT.
SO IT WOULD HAVE THE SAME, UM, USE RESTRICTIONS, WHICH IS, WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IF OPEN PAST 11:00 PM.
MOVING ON TO THE DETAILS OF THESE VARIOUS UNIT MIXES.
SO THERE ARE BUILDINGS 3, 4, 19 AND 20 ARE FIVE PLEX STRUCTURE.
UM, FIVE AND SIX OR SIXPLEX AND 7 17 18 ARE EIGHT PLEX STRUCTURES.
UH, ONE CHANGE IS THE VARIATION TO THE MINIMUM FLOOR PLAN MIX.
CURRENTLY, PHASES ONE AND TWO ARE DIFFERENT.
UM, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ALIGN THOSE.
UM, THE PROPOSED PLAN WOULD HAVE TWO FLOOR PLAN MIXES.
ONE WOULD BE 2200 SQUARE FEET, AND THE OTHER WOULD BE 2100 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THE VARIATIONS OF THOSE ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE, UM, VARIATION IN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES.
SO YOU'LL SEE ON THE BUILDING THERE ARE, UM, PROTRUSIONS AND RECESSIONS OF THE BUILDING TO ADD ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST.
THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE VARIATION IN THE A HUNDRED FEET, A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET WITH FLOOR PLAN.
SO YOU'LL SEE SOME OTHER, UM, DEVELOPMENT STANDARD AMENDMENTS REFLECTED HERE THAT, UH, WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT.
SO THE MINIMUM FLOOR AREA DWELLING UNIT, THERE IS A PROPOSED,
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UM, AMENDMENT TO THIS THAT ALLOWS THE DIRECTOR SOME LEVEL OF DISCRETION TO APPROVE A VARIATION TO THIS.UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THAT RELATED TO THE OUTDOOR LIVING AREAS THAT ALLOW BALCONY ON THE FRONT OR THE REAR OF THESE TOWN HOMES.
UM, THERE'S ALSO ONE THING I'LL MENTION, AND THIS WAS DISCUSSED, UM, AT LENGTH AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WAS THAT THE DIRECTOR MAY APPROVE ALTERNATIVE OUTDOOR PATIO SPACES IF IT IS NOT FEASIBLE DUE TO OTHER CONSTRAINTS, SPECIFICALLY ON BUILDINGS 19 AND 20.
AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY THERE'S CONSTRAINTS ON THOSE.
AND THEN THE OTHER AMENDMENT RELATED TO AESTHETICS IS FOR FENCING.
UM, SO PREVIOUSLY IT WAS, UM, SPECIFIED AS ORNAMENTAL MATERIAL.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THAT THIS BE EXPANDED TO INCLUDE A WIDER VARIETY OF MATERIALS THAT ARE MORE COMMONLY USED, BUT STILL REMAIN COMPLEMENTARY AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE RE REMAINDER OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THEN LOOKING AT, UM, HERE ARE SOME FLOOR PLANS.
SO WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, THE VARIATION OF A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, UH, YOU SEE THIS PROTRUSION HERE TO PROVIDE THE RECESS OF THE PARTICULAR, UM, FACADE.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE, THAT A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF VARIATION TAKES INTO ACCOUNT FOR THE THREE STORY TOWN HOMES.
UM, SO THIS, THESE ARE THREE STORY BUILDINGS.
THEY'RE PROPOSED TO BE APPROXIMATELY, UH, 43 FEET IN HEIGHT.
UM, THE MASONRY PERCENTAGES ARE PROPOSED TO BE IN THE RANGE PER FACADE IN THE RANGE OF 50 TO 88%.
THIS IS A SLIGHT VARIATION TO THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECT.
THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECT DID, UM, COMMIT TO A 90% MINIMUM MASONRY, UM, ON ALL FACADES.
WHAT THE CADENCE HOMES IS PROPOSING IS TO USE A, A VARIATION OF SOME SORT OF LIKE CEDAR STYLE PLANK TO ADD ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST ON THE FRONT, UH, WHICH YOU SEE, UH, THERE ON THE THIRD STORY, WHICH ULTIMATELY REDUCE THEIR OVERALL MASONRY PERCENTAGE.
THIS IS FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH OTHER, UM, FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES WE HAVE IN THE AREA, UH, EVEN IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT.
SO STAFF'S COMFORTABLE WITH THIS, UH, SLIGHT REDUCTION IN THE OVERALL MASONRY, UM, PERCENTAGES.
UM, THERE WILL BE GROUND FLOOR ACCESS FROM THE TRAIL AND WHERE FEASIBLE THERE WILL BE A GROUND FLOOR OUTDOOR PATIO, UM, AND THEN PROJECTING BALCONIES ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE TOWN HOMES AS WELL.
HERE ARE SOME OTHER FACADES TO SHOW, UM, OTHER, OTHER, UM, VARIATION AND, UH, MATERIAL COMPOSITION.
AND THEN TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LANDSCAPING.
SO FOR EACH OF THE TOWN HOME LOTS, SO AS I MENTIONED, EACH OF THE TOWN HOME LOTS, WE'LL HAVE A GROUND FLOOR, UM, PATIO SPACE FOR ALL BUILDINGS EXCEPT 19 AND 20, UH, ON THE FLOOR, OR EXCUSE ME, ON THE SITE PLAN.
SO YOU SEE ON THE FRONT OF THE TOWN HOMES, WHICH IS THE TOP, UH, LANDSCAPE PLAN, THERE WILL BE A, UH, PATIO OUT FRONT WITH, UH, LANDSCAPING SURROUNDING IT ON THE BOTTOM LANDSCAPE PLAN, THIS IS REPRESENTATIVE OF BUILDINGS 19 AND 20.
THOSE LOTS THEMSELVES ARE JUST LESS, UM, THE DEPTH IS LESS THAN ALL OF THE OTHER LOTS, THEREFORE THERE'S NOT ROOM FOR THE PATIO.
THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A PATIO.
IF IT'S FEASIBLE, THEN THEY WOULD LOVE TO TO ADD IT.
BUT RIGHT NOW, BASED UPON, UM, THE PLANS, THERE IS NOT ROOM TO ADD A FUNCTIONAL PATIO AND ADD ANY, MAINTAIN ANY LANDSCAPING.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR THAT AMENDMENT THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER TO, UH, RE REDUCE THE RE OR EXCUSE ME, ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT TO REQUIRE A PATIO ON BUILDINGS 19 AND 20 SPECIFICALLY, UH, FOR PARKING.
UM, JUST WANNA MENTION BOTH OF THESE.
SO THERE ARE NO MODIFICATIONS PROPOSED TO THE PARKING FOR EITHER PHASE ONE OR PHASE TWO.
THEY WILL CONTINUE TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENT FOR TOWN HOMES, WHICH IS TWO PARKING SPACES WITHIN A GARAGE, PLUS, UH, HALF A VISITOR PARKING SPACE PER UNIT ON STREET.
AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO NO, UH, MODIFICATIONS TO THE OPEN SPACE OR LANDSCAPE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE ONLY MODIFICATIONS TO LANDSCAPE ARE WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED, WHICH IS THE LANDSCAPING SPECIFICALLY TO EACH OF THE TOWN HOME LOTS.
NONE OF THE COMMON SPACE LANDSCAPING HAS PROPOSED TO BE MODIFIED.
AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
SO ON MAY 15TH OF THIS YEAR, UH, AM EMILY AND CADENCE HOMES DID, UM, ORGANIZE A COMMUNITY MEETING TO DISCUSS THE BALCONIES ON THE FRONT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORS DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT.
UM, AM EMILY AND CADENCE HELD THAT ON SITE AND APPROXIMATELY 30 RESIDENTS ATTENDED.
UH, THESE AMENDMENTS WERE RECEIVED POSITIVELY BY THE RESIDENTS.
UM, AND THERE WERE NO PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS MENTIONED AT THE TIME,
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WHICH IS THE FRONT.SO I CAN GET ORIENTED IS THE FRONT TOWARDS THE PARK, AND THE OTHER HOME IS THE FRONT TOWARDS THE APARTMENTS.
THE FRONT IS TOWARDS THE, THE PARK, THE TRAIL.
SO THIS IS WHAT WOULD OPEN ONTO THE PARK.
SO, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR PHASE ONE, THIS TWO DIFFERENT ZONING, UM, PROPOSALS 68, UH, NOTICE NOTICES WERE SENT TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, WE DID RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM ONE, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS NO ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK.
UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING.
AND THEN FOR PHASE TWO, WE UM, ALSO NOTICED ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, WHICH INCLUDED 44, UH, RECIPIENTS PLUS DISD.
WE DO NOT RECEIVE ANY FEEDBACK.
AND THE, AS WELL, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS.
SO, UH, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ZONING CASES AND WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT AMENDMENT, OR EXCUSE ME, TWO DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, SO THE FIRST, UH, FOR 1940 DASH Z, WHICH IS PHASE ONE, UH, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.
AND THEN FOR PHASE TWO, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, AND FOR CLARITY, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ADDED, UM, THAT THE BALCONY, UM, OR THE, EXCUSE ME, THE PATIO EXCEPTION WAS SPECIFIC TO NINE BUILDINGS, 19 AND 20.
QUESTIONS, LESLIE, I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS.
SO EVERY ONE OF THESE TOWN HOMES IS GONNA HAVE A BALCONY, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND ONLY BUILDINGS 19 AND 20 WILL NOT HAVE A PATIO, CORRECT? OR IS THAT THEY WILL ALL HAVE, SO ALL OF THE TOWN HOME UNITS WILL HAVE A BALCONY AND ALL OF THEM WILL HAVE A PATIO EXCEPT BUILDINGS 19 AND 20 WILL NOT HAVE A GROUND FLOOR PATIO.
AND, AND SO CAN YOU LOOK, CAN YOU GO TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE ALL OF THE TOWN HOMES? I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE BUILDING 19 AND 20.
IS THAT BY, BY TOWN LAKE? YEP.
AND THAT, THAT'S JUST TOO RE IS IT TOO RESTRICTIVE ON SPACE? IS THAT THE SITUATION? YEAH, SO THE, THE PHYSICAL LOTS ARE, UM, LESS DEEP THAN ALL OF THE OTHER LOTS.
SO THERE IS EITHER YOU ADD THE PATIO AND THE TOWN HOME GETS SMALLER OR YOU LOSE THE PATIO AND KEEP THE TOWN HOME THE CONSISTENT SIZE.
SO LESLIE, WHAT DOES THIS PROCESS LOOK LIKE? SO THIS IS RELATED TO THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
DOES THIS COME BACK AROUND FROM THE DEVELOPER AS AN APPLICANT? UM, CADENCE HOMES OR NO? SO IS THIS IT? AMLI SUBMITTED THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH CADENCE.
SO BACK, UM, IN 2022 AND 20:24 AM EMILY DID NOT HAVE A FEE SIMPLE TOWNHOME DEVELOPER AT THAT TIME.
AND SO THEY, AT THE TIME WE APPROVED SPECULATIVE FEE, SIMPLE TOWNHOMES.
WE SAID THEY'RE GONNA BE THREE STORY.
WE'LL, WE WILL COME BACK LATER AND WE'LL, WE'LL SOLIDIFY THAT THIS APPLICA OR BOTH OF THESE APPLICATIONS ARE SOLIDIFYING THAT WHAT IS DESIRED TO BE CONSTRUCTED IS THIS TOWN HOME.
SO THERE WILL NOT, IT WILL NOT COME BACK THROUGH UNLESS THERE ARE FURTHER MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED.
AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP, UM, ON, UM, BUILDINGS 19 AND 20, WITH NO PATIO, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING? OR, OR I MEAN, HA IS, IS THE DEVELOPER COMFORTABLE HAVING THOSE UNITS WITHOUT A PATIO? ARE THEY LESS MARKETABLE? YEAH, SO THE APPLICANT, UM, REQUESTED THAT AMENDMENT.
SO CADENCE, UM, HOMES WITH, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH AMIE, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT MODIFICATION, UH, IN ORDER TO KEEP THE TOWN HOME A CONSISTENT SIZE 'CAUSE WITH, AND, AND THE APPLICANT CAN ADDRESS IT FURTHER.
BUT WITHOUT THAT MODIFICATION THEN THE FLOOR PLANS FOR THESE TWO BUILDINGS, 19 AND 20, WOULD IN THEORY BE DIFFERENT TO ACCOUNT FOR THE, THE, SO THEY'D RATHER HAVE LARGER SQUARE FOOTAGE THAN THE ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR SPACE? YES, SIR.
I I'VE GOT ANOTHER FOLLOW UP QUESTION, I THINK TO WHAT CHRIS WAS ASKING ME AND WHAT I WAS ASKING EARLIER ON 19 AND 20, UM, SO ON THE, ON THE, WHERE THEY'VE GOT THE TREES JUST SOUTH OF MM-HMM.
THE TOWN HOMES, ARE THEY, ARE THEY PARKING? ARE THEY ENTERING FROM THE SOUTH SIDE? CORRECT.
SO, AND, AND SO THE BALCONY, IS THAT ALSO ON THE SOUTH SIDE FOR THAT? YES, CORRECT.
SO THOSE, THEY'RE JUST ORIENTED DIFFERENTLY THAT, THAT, THAT DOES, WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THE, UH, PATIO.
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ALL OF ALL OF THESE HOMES THAT ARE NORTH SOUTH ARE ALL FACING TOWARDS THE WEST.THAT'S WHERE THE FRONT DOORS ARE FACING TOWARDS THE TRAIL.
UM, AND 19 AND 20 ARE ACTUALLY FACING TOWARDS THE SOUTH.
BRENDA, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YES, SIR.
SO YOU CONTACTED ALL OF THE RESIDENTS AND MM-HMM
AND YOU GOT NO OBJECTIONS FROM WINDOWS LOOKING DOWN IN THEIR YARDS OR PRIVACY CONCERNS AT ALL? NO.
SO, UM, ALL THE APPLICANT CAN EXPAND FURTHER, BUT THEY ACTUALLY DID A, LIKE A DRONE VIDEO UHHUH TO SHOW LINES OF SIGHT.
SO, AND THEY PRESENTED THAT AT THE MAY MEETING TO THE RESIDENTS SO YOU COULD VISUALIZE EXACTLY WHAT THE, THE V SHED WOULD BE.
I APPRECIATE THAT THESE, I'VE DRIVEN UP INTO THIS COMPLEX TO KIND OF VISUALIZE WHERE THESE ARE GONNA BE.
IT'S HARD TO, THEY, IS IT TRUE, IT, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THEY WILL JUST BE SITTING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
IS THERE ANY SEPARATION FROM THESE TOWN HOMES AND THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX? UM, SO THERE IS IN SOME AREAS, SO, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING TO SEE 'CAUSE THEY'RE GRAYED OUT.
BUT THIS IS THE PRIMARY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING.
THIS IS IDENTIFIED AS BUILDING ONE.
UH, SO THIS CONTINUOUS STRUCTURE IS ALL MULTIFAMILY.
THIS BUILDING THAT'S L-SHAPED BUILDING IS ALSO A MULTIFAMILY.
SO THERE IS NO SEPARATION FOR BUILDINGS 3, 4, 5, 6.
UM, HERE, THESE BUILDINGS ARE RENTAL TOWN HOMES.
SO YOU'LL HAVE SOME SEPARATION.
AND THEN THESE BUILDINGS ARE ALSO RENTAL TOWN HOMES.
SO THERE, UH, THE INTENT WAS, IS THERE WAS A STAIR STEP OF INTENSITY WITH YOUR MOST INTENSE BEING AT MIDWAY AND YOUR LEAST INTENSE BEING ON THE WEST SIDE, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY.
HOW WILL THEY GET INTO THEIR PROPERTY? WHAT, WHAT ROADS WILL THEY BE COMING IN FROM? SURE.
SO THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT HAS SEVERAL ACCESS POINTS PRIMARILY OFF OF MIDWAY.
SO THERE'S AN ACCESS POINT HERE OFF OF MIDWAY HERE, UH, HERE AND HERE THERE IS ALSO THROUGH ACCESS TO BELTWAY AT THE FAR NORTH.
SO, UM, THERE'S FIVE DIFFERENT ACCESS POINTS.
UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE PROJECT WAS DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO HAVE A MINI MEANDERS, UM, SO TO AVOID PEOPLE TRYING TO CUT THROUGH.
BUT THOSE MEANDERS TO ME LOOK LIKE ALL OF THEIR ENTRY POINTS, THEY WILL BE DRIVING THROUGH AN APARTMENT COMPLEX TO GET TO THEIR HOME.
SO THEY WILL BASICALLY BE MEANDERING THROUGH AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, CORRECT? YES.
SO THOSE ARE ALL PRIVATE DRIVES.
UM, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE ADDISON GROVE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT SENSE THAT YOU HAVE TO YEAH, THE TOWN HOMES ARE TUCKED BEHIND THE MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS IN THAT INSTANT, IN THAT CASE, A LONG BELT LINE.
WHAT, WHAT IS OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN HERE? SO AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO, WILL OUR ORDINANCE OF PARKING ON THE STREET STILL BEING ENFORCED HERE? UH, SO THERE'S ACTUALLY BETTER ENFORCEMENT.
BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL PRIVATE DRIVES.
SO THAT IS NOT, UM, AND THAT'S MY QUESTION.
I GUESS IF IT'S PRIVATE STREETS, DO WE HAVE ANY ENFORCEMENT OF THAT OR IS THAT FOR THE APARTMENT COMPLEX TO WORK ON? SO THAT, UH, WOULD BE FOR THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE HOA.
SO THERE ARE, UH, WHICH IS ANOTHER ITEM LATER THIS EVENING, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, UM, A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR THESE TOWN HOMES THAT WOULD SUPPORT THOSE VARIOUS COVENANTS RELATED TO THE MANAGEMENT AND SO FORTH OF, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WHAT, WHAT ASSURANCES DO WE HAVE ON THESE TOWNHOUSES THAT THEY WILL NOT BE, THEY WILL NOT BECOME RENTAL PROPERTIES? SHOULD THEY HAVE TROUBLE SELLING THESE BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO LIVE IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, GO THROUGH APARTMENT.
WHAT ASSURANCES DO WE HAVE THAT WE CAN'T SELL 'EM? SO WE'LL JUST TURN 'EM INTO RENTAL TOWNHOUSES? SURE.
SO, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.
SO FIRST, UM, THE, WHICH THIS IS AN ITEM SIX A ON THE AGENDA, THAT'S THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITHIN THERE, IT, UH, ENSURES THAT THESE WILL BE FEE SIMPLE AND THAT THEY CANNOT, AND, AND IF THEY'RE NOT, UM, CONSTRUCTED AS FEE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP PRODUCT, PRODUCT, THERE IS ACTUALLY A PURCHASE OPTION AND VARIOUS OTHER REMEDIES LIKE THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM, FROM MOVING FORWARD.
SO THEY HAVE TO BE, WE HAVE THAT ASSURANCE THAT THEY HAVE TO BE FEE SIMPLE PRODUCT.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, IN TALKING WITH THE, UM, DEVELOPER CADENCE HOMES, UM, THEY ARE WILLING TO ADD TO THEIR, UM, HOA COVENANTS A RESTRICTION ON ANY SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
AND THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO DO THAT.
HAVE THEY GIVEN US ANY, I, I WAS NOT PART OF ANY OF THESE DISCUSSIONS EITHER.
DO, DO THEY HAVE ANY SALE PRICE POINT ON THE, ON THESE? UM, I WILL DEFER TO THE, THE APPLICANT, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
ARE THEY HERE, ARE THEY GONNA GIVE US A PRESENT DATE?
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YES.SO LESLIE, YOU MENTIONED, UH, SOMETHING ABOUT A NEUTRAL RESPONSE.
WHAT, WHAT PAGE IS THAT ON? UM, I DON'T KNOW THE PAGE.
IT IS THE LAST ATTACHMENT, I BELIEVE ATTACHMENT SIX IN THE PACKET.
WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT'S THE CONTENT OF THAT? THE GENERAL, YEAH, SO THE CONTENT WAS THAT THERE WAS SOME, UM, A CONCERN OF THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY OF ONE OF THE STATEMENTS MADE IN THE STAFF REPORT ABOUT THAT THERE WERE NO PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WAS STAFF DID NOT INTEND TO NOT BE TRANSPARENT.
THE INTENT OF THE STATEMENT WAS THAT THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS AND THE PROPOSED USE OF EACH OF THE BUILDINGS IS NOT PROPOSED TO BE CHANGED WITH THIS APPLICATION.
SO I THINK IT WAS JUST, UM, I, A DIFFERENCE OF, I COULDN'T FIND IT IN THE 759 PAGES, JUST KIND OF MISSED IT.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PAGE IT IS SPECIFICALLY, BUT I KNOW IT'S, IF YOU COULD GET BACK TO US ON THAT.
SO THE RENTAL TOWN HOMES, UM, EAST OF SEVEN ON THERE, ARE THEY BEING BUILT BY CADENCE ALSO? UH, NO.
ALL THE RENTAL PRODUCT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED BY AM EMILY.
WHAT'S, SO THIS WOULD BE FOR THE APPLICANT ALSO, JUST KIND OF A LOOK, I GUESS ONE QUESTION IS TIMELINE OVERALL, BUT ALSO DO WE HAVE ANY SORT OF TIMELINE RESTRICTIONS OR REQUIREMENTS THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THIS? UM, I KNOW WE HAVE, UH, THE CLAWBACK OR NOT.
WELL, ADDON WOULD TAKE IT BACK OVER THAT ONE.
DOES THAT HAVE A TIMELINE ON IT? AND THEN ARE THERE OTHER CONSTRUCTION, UM, MILESTONES THAT HAVE TO BE HIT? THERE ARE, UM, AND THEY'RE VERY INTERCONNECTED THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
UH, SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, I KNOW THIS ISN'T DIRECTLY RELATED TO YOUR QUESTION, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, AMLI, UM, CANNOT GET A CO, THE FIRST BUILDING TO COME ONLINE IS ANTICIPATED TO BE BUILDING ONE, WHICH IS THE LARGEST MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING.
THEY CANNOT RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY UNTIL THE TOWN HAS, THEY'VE DEDICATED THE PARK TO THE TOWN.
UM, SO THERE ARE VARIOUS, UM, CLAWBACKS, IF YOU WILL, WITHIN THE AGREEMENT THAT STANDARDIZE THE SEQUENCE AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE GETTING OUR PIECE OF THE PIE, IF YOU WILL,
SO, AND I CAN, UM, WITH THE NEXT ITEM, I CAN, UH, LOOK INTO IT AND, AND TALK MORE SPECIFICALLY IF YOU DON'T, UH, ABOUT THE, THE TIMELINE FOR THE CLAWBACK.
DAN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR CLARITY.
UM, I KNOW COBALT HOMES HAS THE HOMES NORTH OF BUILDINGS 19 AND 20, CORRECT? UM, CORRECT.
SO BACK TO RANDY'S COMMENT ABOUT DRIVING THROUGH APARTMENTS.
EVERYTHING SOUTH OF 19 AND 20 IS, IS TECHNICALLY TOWN HOMES, WHETHER IT BE FEE SIMPLE OR RENTAL, CORRECT.
UNTIL YOU HIT THAT BLUE DOTTED LINE.
UH, THE SOUTH SOUTHERN MOST PART, WERE BUILDING ONE.
SO THESE ARE ALL TOWN HOMES AND HERE, AND THEN RETAIL OUT TO THE FRONT.
THIS IS, THESE ARE STACKED FLATS, THOSE ARE MULTIFAMILY AS WELL.
THESE, UH, THREE BUILDINGS HERE, THESE ARE RETAIL.
ARE THE ONES ACROSS FROM 17 AND 18, UH, RENTAL TOWN HOMES TOO? YES.
AND SO, UM, THESE ARE BOTH RENTALS NOT HOME.
AND ON THE COMMENT, RANDY, I, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IF YOU GO OVER THERE AND YOU SEE THAT PARK, UM, THOSE ARE GONNA BE PRIME PROPERTY FOR PEOPLE TO BUY.
UM, I'M THINKING ABOUT BUYING ONE, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, NOT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.
MARLON, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? UM, NO, I WAS JUST GONNA WAIT.
I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
UH, WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.
UM, WELL, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AND THEN WE'LL DO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
HOW ABOUT THAT? AND THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MY NAME'S ROBERT LAP, VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT WITH AM LEE.
WE'VE BEEN A CORPORATE CITIZEN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AT 50 57 KELLER SPRINGS, UH, AM LEE IS THE OWNER OF THE 21.8 ACRE TREEHOUSE MIXED USE PROJECT THAT YOU ALL SAW TONIGHT FROM LESLIE.
UH, WE WILL BE BRINGING THESE FOR SALE TOWN HOME LOTS, UH, PUBLIC PARK SPACE, RETAIL, AND LUXURY APARTMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PART.
WE'VE BEEN, UH, WE'VE RUN A VERY THOROUGH SELECTION PROCESS WITH A NUMBER OF QUALIFIED REGIONAL AND NATIONAL TOWN HOME DEVELOPERS.
AND ULTIMATELY WE LANDED ON WORKING WITH BRUNO, UH, FOUNDER AND OWNER OF CADENCE HOMES.
HE'S, UH, GOT A PRETTY, PRETTY LONG BACKGROUND IN DEVELOPMENT, THREE DECADES.
UH, PRIOR TO FOUNDING CADENCE HOMES, HE WAS,
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UH, HE HAD ESTABLISHED CB JENNY IN NORMANDY HOMES, A FEW OTHER HOUSEHOLD NAMES I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD OF.AND, UH, AS A PART OF THAT, WE FELT LIKE HE HAD A LONGSTANDING REPUTATION FOR CRAFTSMANSHIP AND ELEVATED DESIGN, WHEREAS SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS THAT BROUGHT US THEIR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS LOOKED A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, LET'S JUST CALL IT PLUG AND PLAY.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE EXTREMELY ENTHUSED, BUT I'LL KEEP IT SHORT.
LESLIE DID A GOOD JOB WITH HER PRESENTATION.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE BRUNO SOME TIME TO, TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND CLICK THROUGH ANY OF THESE SLIDES THAT YOU WANT TO CLARIFY.
WE DID DO SOME NICE BEAUTIFUL RENDERINGS THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE.
THESE ARE ILLUSTRATIVE IN NATURE.
THE FRONT OF THIS BUILDING RIGHT HERE FOR THE FOR SALE TOWN HOME WOULD ACTUALLY FACE THE PARK.
WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SAMPLE OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE INSTEAD OF JUST LOOKING IN THE GARAGE.
ROBERT, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
GOOD EVENING, BRUNO PASQUINELLI.
I'M THE OWNER OF CADEN HOMES, UH, OFFICE AT 8,400 BELLEVUE DRIVE, SUITE 1 35 IN PLANO.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M HONORED TO BE SELECTED TO BUILD, UH, THE TOWN HOMES IN THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAT DOWN WITH AMIE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE PARK, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT, GOD, THIS IS GONNA BE PRETTY INTERESTING.
WHEN I WENT OUT THERE AND ACTUALLY WALKED THE PARK AFTER IT WAS PRETTY MUCH COMPLETED.
AND, UM, THE HOMES WITH THE PATIOS, BALCONIES AND A PATIO FACING THAT PARK IS GONNA BE INCREDIBLE.
SO, YES, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FIRST SALE IN A FIRST CLASS APARTMENT, COMPLEX RETAIL, BUT I THINK THE WAY THIS IS ALL PUT TOGETHER AND WHAT THESE RESIDENTS, UH, THE WAY THEY LIVE FACING THE PARK, I I THINK IT'S GONNA BE FANTASTIC.
SO, UM, WE'RE REALLY HERE TONIGHT TO ALIGN TWO ORDINANCES.
THERE'S AN ORDINANCE FOR THE FIRST PHASE AND THE SECOND PHASE, AND THEY'RE WRITTEN JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
SO GETTING THEM A LITTLE MORE COHERENT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME HAVING TO EXECUTE THIS.
SO, UM, ALIGNING THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGES, UM, FIXING THE PROBLEM OF 19 AND 20, AND THE SHALLOW LOT DEPTHS.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M HAPPY THAT THE, THE TWO BUILDINGS THAT I CAN'T FIT THE PATIOS ON DON'T FACE THE PARK.
THEY ACTUALLY FACE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING TO NOTE.
UH, WE HAD TO CLARIFY, UH, THE FENCE IN FRONT OF THE, UH, THE TOWN HOMES.
I CALL IT A DOOR YARD, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOW FENCE THAT, UH, CONTAINS THE PATIO.
AND THEN WE HAD A WONDERFUL MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS, AND THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE HERE, UH, AT THE MEETING.
UM, IT WAS A DELIGHTFUL MEETING.
WE SHOWED THEM SOME DRONE FOOTAGE OF WHAT OUR PEOPLE WILL SEE, UH, TOWARDS THEIR COMMUNITY.
WE WENT AND WALKED THE WHOLE PARK.
UM, AND IT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE.
AND, UM, THEY WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE.
SO, ANYWAYS, I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, DID SOMEBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR, FOR BRUNO? MAYOR, I'VE GOT A COUPLE COMMENTS I WANTED TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY.
YOU, YOU'VE BEEN INCREDIBLY HOSPITABLE.
UM, AND LIKE YOU SAID, THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING I ATTENDED THAT THERE WAS ABOUT, I THINK 30, 30 RESIDENTS THERE.
UM, AND, AND WE WERE ALL GIVEN A PRESENTATION AFTERWARDS.
WE WALKED BACK AND FORTH TO THE PARK AND, UM, EVERYBODY THERE WAS INCREDIBLY HAPPY.
AND EVERYBODY'S, A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD GET SCARY WITH CHANGE, BUT, BUT THE GROUP WAS EXTREMELY, UH, THRILLED TO HAVE THIS SITUATION OCCUR.
UM, I WISH WE HAD MORE BUY-IN ON ALL OTHER, ALL OF OUR OTHER STUFF GOING ON IN THE TOWN THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
BUT, UM, UH, MAJOR BUY-IN FROM TOWN LAKE AND ALSO, UM, UM, UH, MIDWAY MEADOWS, HOA, UM, ALSO, UM, BRUNO HAD ALLOWED, UH, PAUL WALDEN AND I, PAUL IS THE PRESIDENT OF HIS HOA OVER AT MIDWAY MEADOWS.
UM, BRUNO ALLOWED US TO TAKE A TOUR OF LINK SIDE AT LAS COLINAS.
UM, VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO THE PRODUCT HE'S WANTING TO BUILD HERE NOW.
AND, AND THESE PLACES ARE JUST ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS.
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I MEAN, I WISH WE COULD JUST LIKE, COPY WHAT YOU DID AND JUST PLAN IT HERE AND BE, BUT THEY'RE, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLION DOLLAR TOWN HOMES, UM, AND, AND, AND ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL.AND, UM, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE YOU BUILD SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO THAT HERE IN ADDISON.
HOWARD, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH, MY, MY QUESTION, I, I MEAN, I'M PROBABLY NOT A CANDIDATE TO MOVE THERE, BUT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE AMENITIES FOR THE TOWNHOUSES.
DO THEY GET TO SHARE THE AMENITIES THAT THE APARTMENTS HAVE, LIKE SWIMMING POOLS, EXERCISE FACILITIES, ANYTHING GOING ON IN ALEY THAT NO, SIR.
THE AMENITY IS THE PARK, THE DOG PARK, AND THEN THERE'S FACILITIES IN ADDISON THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE VERY CLOSE.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE, THE, THE WORKOUT FACILITY? YEAH.
UM, SO AGAIN, THE, THE, TO ME, THE JUUL IS THIS PARK AND THE DOGS AND THE PEOPLE WALKING AND UH, AND THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND THE LOCATION OF THIS COMMUNITY TO, UH, EVERYTHING ADDISON HAS TO OFFER.
SO MY FOLLOW UP IS WHAT IS THE COST OF THESE UNITS? YOU KNOW, I'M ANTICIPATING THEY'RE GONNA SELL PLUS OR MINUS $600,000.
UH, PROBABLY THE INITIAL OFFERING WILL BE A LITTLE LOWER THAN 600.
AND WE GET A LITTLE MOMENTUM AND RAISE THE PRICE AS WE WORK THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.
DID YOU SAY HOW MANY SQUARE FEET EACH UNIT IS? I DON'T REMEMBER.
UM, THEY ARE APPROXIMATELY TWENTY ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO HUNDRED SQUARE FEET ON THREE LEVELS.
AND THAT'S NOT COUNTING THE GARAGE.
THAT IS NOT COUNTING THE GARAGE.
OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, WHAT DOES THE TIMELINE LOOK LIKE TO BUILD? SO, UM, RIGHT NOW, UM, THESE LOTS ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A GC PROJECT, RIGHT? SO, UH, I'M WORKING CLOSELY WITH AM E TO COORDINATE THE START OF THESE BUILDINGS.
SO THEY FINISH ABOUT THE TIME THAT IT'S SAFE TO ACTUALLY DRIVE BACK HERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPING, YOU KNOW, DECEMBER THROUGH Q1, SOMEWHERE IN THERE WE HOPE TO START.
WILL YOU BE BUILDING ALL OF THE BUILDINGS AS YOU AS FAST AS SOON AS YOU CAN, GIVEN THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, STATUS OF THE REST OF THE, UH, SITE? OR WILL YOU BE BUILDING THEM AS THEY'RE SOLD? UM, AS THEY'RE SOLD, BUT THEN THERE'S THE LIMITER OF HOW QUICK I COULD ACTUALLY GO.
AGAIN, IT HAS TO BE SAFE FOR RESIDENTS TO OCCUPY, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF RIGHT NOW AS A HEAVY CONSTRUCTION.
SO, SO IF YOU START IN JANUARY, IS IT AN 18 MONTH BUILD OR A 12 MONTH BUILD? WAIT, DO YOU REMEMBER ROBERT? I MEAN, IT WAS PROBABLY A COUPLE YEARS.
I THINK ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT IS THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S HARD OF TIME.
YOU'VE ALREADY PUT IN ALL THE UTILITIES, YOU'VE GOT ALL THE ROADS.
WE DO OWE BRUNO SOME UTILITIES TO THE SPECIFIC TOWNHOUSE IN PHASE ONE.
PHASE ONE MEAN MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PHASE ONE DONE WE'RE ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR PHASE TWO.
TO HIS BENEFIT, HE COULD, HE COULD COME IN, WE DELIVER THESE FINISHED LOT TO HIM.
HE COULD PUT HIS FOUNDATION AND BRING YOU GO.
SOME OF THE CHALLENGES OR COMPLICATIONS, I THINK ON SOME OTHER FOR SALE PRODUCTS WITHIN THE TOWN RELATED STRUCTURE PRINCIPALLY TIE IN BELTWAY OR MIDWAY.
THIS, SO DARREN, ARE YOU ASKING WHEN HE WOULD'VE PRODUCT AVAILABLE OR THE TOTAL BUILD OUT? UH, I, I GOT THE INFORMATION I WAS LOOKING FOR.
IT IS AROUND DECEMBER, JANUARY, QQ ONE OF 26.
IT'S GONNA TAKE A COUPLE YEARS TO GO, IS DEPENDENT ON THE OTHER CONSTRUCTION OF THE SITE.
SO IT'S SAFE TO, THEY MOVE IN THERE.
THE WHAT, FORTUNATELY FOR US DEMAND, I THOUGHT YOU SAID THE BANK.
FORTUNATELY FOR US, THE LARGEST BUILDING WE ARE CURRENTLY ABOUT TO TOP OUT, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE, UH, BUILDING ONE.
THAT'S A 369 UNIT BUILDING THAT NOW THAT WE'RE STARTING DRYWALL REALLY PREDICATES THE SCHEDULE OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO ARE THE FIRST TOWN HOME BUILDINGS THAT BRUNO WANTS TO TAKE DOWN.
SO, FORTUNATELY WE SHOULD BE TYING OUT, I ENVISION, YOU KNOW, THE, OUR CUSTOMERS COMING THIS WAY AND OUR MODEL'S GONNA BE RIGHT HERE.
SO ROBERT, SINCE YOU'RE UP THERE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE OPENING OF DATE OF PHASE OF THAT FIRST BUILDING?
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AS WE'RE CURRENTLY PROJECTED, WE ARE EXPECTING THE FIRST TWO BUILDINGS WITHIN LARGE BUILDINGS.THE ONES THAT FACE MIDWAY, UH, TO BE OPENED BY JUNE OF 26, JUST IN TIME FOR LEASING SEASON.
OTHER QUESTIONS, RANDY? YES SIR.
HAVE YOU ACQUIRED THE LOTS? DO YOU OWN THE LOTS NOW? NO, SIR.
WHEN, WHEN WILL THAT TAKE PLACE? UM, SO IN JANUARY OR Q1, CAN YOU PULL THAT MICROPHONE BACK OVER TO YOU? YES, THANK YOU.
SO, UH, I WILL ACQUIRE THE LOTS ON A TAKE DOWN WHEN IT'S SAFE FOR ME TO BUILD IN HERE AND, UH, AM EMILY FINISHES SOME, THERE'S ABOUT 5% OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, UH, TO DELIVER A LOT TO ME.
RIGHT NOW THEY'RE STAGING CONSTRUCTION WHERE THESE BUILDINGS ARE.
SO THEY GOTTA FINISH THAT, GET THE STUFF OFF, FINISH THE PADS, PUT IN SOME WATER SERVICES, COUPLE PARKING SPOTS, AND THEN WE'LL START TAKING DOWN, UH, LOTS.
SO THE, THEY'RE KIND OF IN A CONTINGENCY.
I MEAN, THEY'RE, AND YOU'LL JUST PURCHASE THEM AS YOU BUILD THEM AS YOU GO ALONG? THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, WHAT, WHAT WAS OUR REQUIRED SQUARE FOOTAGE WHEN WE APPROVED THESE? DID WE REQUIRE A ONE SQUARE FOOTAGE? ONE'S 1800 SQUARE FEET AND ONE'S 22.
SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY INCREASING THE SIZE RIGHT, THAT WE REQUIRED.
SO, UM, I'M ASKING THAT THEY'RE BOTH ALIGNED AT 1800 'CAUSE THEY'RE DIFFERENT, BUT I'M BUILDING TWENTY ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND.
UH, WILL, WILL THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE ACCESS TO THIS BEAUTIFUL PARK? WILL, WILL, WILL THE PEOPLE FROM MIDWAY MEADOWS HAVE AN ACCESS POINT TO GET INTO THIS PARK WITHOUT GOING AROUND TO THE STREET AND COMING IN? AND THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
RAIN, THERE'S MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
YOU DO HAVE, UH, DOWN HERE BY THE DOG PARK, THE EXISTING TRAIL THAT CONNECTS TO MIDWAY, UH, WORKING WITH PLANNING DURING THE ZONING PROCESS.
THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ABOUT ENTRY POINTS INTO THE PARK.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS, UH, OFF OF MIDWAY THAT YOU CAN TRAVERSE TO GET SAFELY INTO THE PARK.
AND IN SOME INSTANCES WE HAVE THESE NICE CIRCULAR PAPERED AREAS WITH OUR DISTILLATIONS WITH NICE FEW CORRIDORS TO CALL PEOPLE IN.
SO NO, NO LOCKED GATES THAT THEY HAVE TO GET THROUGH.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S EASY ACCESS FOR 'EM, NO CODES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
YEAH, FOR CLARITY, RANDY, JUST SO YOU KNOW, RIGHT HERE WHERE IT SAYS NOT A PART, THAT'S THE COBALT, THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ACCESS POINT HERE RIGHT, RIGHT THERE ON BELTWAY.
BUT NOTHING IN FROM THE STREETS, NO GATE IN, IN THERE.
THEY HAVE TO KIND OF GO AROUND ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
YEAH, THERE'S ACTUALLY A SIDE SIDEWALK.
BUT THEY DO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.
NO, I, I'VE, I HAVE WALKED IT.
UM, WHAT, WHERE, SO YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING BUILT, AND I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE GONNA HAVE RESIDENTS MOVING IN.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A COMPLETED PROJECT BEFORE HE, BEFORE THE TOWNHOUSES FEE SAMPLES ARE BUILT, CORRECT? IT'S KIND OF TOGETHER.
THE WAY THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY SEQUENCING THIS, WE SHOULD HAVE THE FIRST BUILDING COMPLETE WHILE HE'S COMPLETING HIS FIRST FEW BUILDINGS.
SO WE WILL BE PRETTY MUCH TIED AT THE HIP FROM OKAY.
WELL, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD COORDINATION ON THAT.
DO YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR YOUR CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES TO ENTER, TO GET THROUGH THESE APARTMENT? ARE YOU GONNA HAVE ONE CORRIDOR WHERE ALL YOUR BIG TRUCKS ARE COMING IN WITH ALL THIS BIG CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT? OR ARE THEY JUST GONNA COME IN WHEREVER THEY WANT TO COME IN? YOU KNOW, I'M, WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN THAT FAR, BUT, UH, I BELIEVE THESE ARE ALL PRIVATE STREETS AND EMILY'S GONNA REQUEST ME, UH, CADENCE TO CONDUCT OURSELVES IN A CERTAIN MANNER.
SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR.
SO YOU COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF PLAN THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE IF WE DID HAVE SOME PEOPLE LIVING THERE THAT WOULD KIND OF HELP THEM WITH THAT AND, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE REQUIRED AFTER YOUR CONCRETE TRUCKS ARE COMING IN HERE AND, AND LUMBER DELIVERY, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE'S SOME DRYWALL BRICK.
IT'S A LOT OF IT'S A LOT OF TRUCKS COME IN.
AND, AND ONE COMMENT ON THAT, RANDY.
ONE THING, THIS IS WHY WE SELECTED BURNOUT.
HE IS THE FOUNDER AND, AND OWNER OF THE COMPANY.
HE HAS HIS COO HERE WHO HAS SPENT, UH, NUMEROUS DECADES AT SOME HIGH QUALITY BUILDERS.
THEY WERE ALREADY WORKING WITH US ON WHAT LAY DOWN WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHERE THEIR TRUCKS WOULD BE.
CLEARLY IT'S, IT'S VERY EARLY, EARLY IN THE PROCESS TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
BUT HE WAS ALREADY HAVING THAT WITH US.
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THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THAT.SOME PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THAT AS AN AFTERTHOUGHT.
IT'S, IT'S AT THE FOREFRONT OF HIS THINKING PROCESS.
I GAVE MY CARDS TO THE HOA PRESIDENTS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU EVER HAVE A PROBLEM, CALL ME.
WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY COMPANY.
I'VE WORKED 24 7, I'M THE OWNER.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT, THE DEFINITION OF OWNING THE BUSINESS.
WE KEEP BEING TOLD THAT NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN BUILDING FEE SIMPLE PROPERTIES ON S SUCH SMALL LOTS.
SO I THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND, UH, DOING THAT.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PRODUCT BEING IN TOWN AND I, I HOPE IT SELLS WELL AND, AND YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BRUNO? I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.
I WAS OUT OF TOWN ON BUSINESS, BUT LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE PRODUCT.
'CAUSE I HAVE SEEN THE PRODUCT IN LAS COLINAS.
JUST HAVEN'T BEEN INSIDE, LIKE LUCKY MARLIN OVER THERE.
SO THANK YOU FOR BEING IN ADDISON.
OKAY, WE HAVE, UH, TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS NOW.
UH, WE'LL DO ITEM FIVE C FIRST, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM FIVE C MOTION TO APPROVE FIVE C AND D AS BOARD DOING ONE AT A TIME, PLEASE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ITEM FIVE C IS APPROVED AND UH, WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM FIVE D.
ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ITEM FIVE D? COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR FIVE D MAYOR.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FIVE D.
UM, SO IS, IS YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE SAME AS THE PNZ COMMISSION WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION? THEY HAD RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT THE PATIOS FOR BUILDINGS? YES.
AND WAS DID YOU HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? YEAH, SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ITEM FIVE D IS APPROVED.
[a. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving a Master Development Agreement and related definitive agreements between the Town of Addison and AMLI Residential for the AMLI Treehouse, Phase I development project, and authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreements.]
ALRIGHT, UH, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX A PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING A MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND RELATED DEFINITIVE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND AMIE RESIDENTIAL FOR THE AMIE TREE HOUSE PHASE ONE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENTS.AND I HAVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
UM, THIS, UH, PARTICULAR ITEM IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE AMLI TREEHOUSE PHASE ONE PROJECT, WHICH WE, UH, JUST DISCUSSED.
THIS IS THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
SOME OF THIS WE'VE ALREADY COVERED, BUT BACK WHEN THE INITIAL ZONING WAS APPROVED FOR THE PHASE ONE OF THE PROJECT IN 2022, STAFF ALSO BROUGHT FORWARD A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OR AN MOU, UH, WHICH ESTABLISHED, UM, MORE RESTRICTIVE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS TO WHAT WE COULD ACHIEVE VIA THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT OR THE ZONING PROCESS.
UM, THIS WAS ENTERED INTO, UH, THIS MOU WAS ENTERED INTO WITH THE TOWN AND AM E UM, FOR THESE MORE RESTRICTIVE, UM, STANDARDS.
SO WHAT WE'RE BRINGING BACK FOR YOU THIS EVENING, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE AMENDMENT, UH, SOLIDIFYING, UH, THAT WAS JUST, UH, APPROVED.
THE PD AMENDMENT WAS JUST APPROVED, SOLIDIFYING THE TOWN FEE.
SIMPLE TOWN HOMES IS CONSIDERATION OF THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, AND THE OTHER ANCILLARY AGREEMENTS THAT ARE A PART OF IT, UH, BASED UPON THE TERMS OUTLINED IN THAT MOU FROM 2022.
SO, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF THE MOU ORIGINALLY AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS TO ESTABLISH MORE RESTRICTIVE STANDARDS AND SOME OTHER ANCILLARY STANDARDS, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS THE PURCHASE OPTION FOR THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES.
IF THEY DON'T GET, UM, DEVELOPED APPROPRIATELY AS AN EXAMPLE, THERE ARE STANDARDS RELATED TO UNIQUE CONSTRUCTION HOURS.
THERE ARE STAND THAT ARE MORE RESTRICTIVE, THERE ARE STANDARDS RELATED TO MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS AND SO FORTH.
UM, JUST TO NAME A FEW, UM, I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE NO FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS WITHIN THIS AGREEMENT.
UM, WHETHER IN THIS AGREEMENT UNDER CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING OR WITHIN THE ORIGINAL MOU, UM, FROM THE TOWN.
UM, SOME OF THE, THE GOALS THAT WERE ACHIEVED VIA THE MOU AND, AND, AND RESULT THE THIS MDA BEFORE YOU, UM, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THIS PROJECT IS EXECUTED IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SO, UM, COUNCILMAN GARDNER, YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE CLAWBACK DEADLINE, AND I CLARIFIED THAT FOR YOU.
SO WHEN THAT WOULD TAKE EFFECT IS THE SECOND ANNIVERSARY OR TWO YEARS AFTER THE FINAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY OF BUILDING ONE.
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IF THE TOWN HOMES ARE NOT COMPLETED, EXCUSE ME, IS HOW IT'S WRITTEN IS IF THE TOWN HOMES DO NOT HAVE AN ACTIVE PERMIT, THE TOWN THEN HAS THE ABILITY TO, UM, PURCHASE THE OP PURCHASE, THE, THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOME LOTS TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE CONSTRUCTED IN A TIMELY MANNER.AND, UM, IT EXPANDS UPON SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US TO EXECUTE.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, THERE ARE ALSO, WITHIN THIS AGREEMENT, THERE ARE OTHER REQUIREMENTS AND, UM, COVENANTS AND SO FORTH RELATED TO THE PARK DEDICATION AS WELL AS THE, UM, FUTURE MAINTENANCE AND USE OF THE PARK AND SO FORTH.
AND ALSO RESTRICTIONS OR REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO SUSTAINABILITY FEATURES WITHIN THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
SO WITHIN THIS MDA, YOU'LL SEE THERE ARE SEVERAL ANCILLARY AG, UM, COMPONENTS TO THE MDA.
THOSE INCLUDE THE PARK DEDICATION, COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE ENTERING INTO, AS WELL AS THE PURCHASE OPTION AGREEMENT THAT'S SPECIFIC TO THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES.
AND THEN, UM, ALSO THERE'S A REFERENCE TO THE PARK SPECIAL WARRANTY DEED, AND THAT'S THE DEED WHICH WOULD ULTIMATELY, UM, IS THE INTENT THAT THE PARK IS THEN CONVEYED TO THE TOWN, UH, UPON, UH, COMPLETION AND ACCEPTANCE OF THAT PARK.
SO ONCE AGAIN, JUST GOING OVER SOME OF THE MAJOR COMPONENTS, WHICH WE, THESE ARE FROM THE M-O-M-O-U.
AND SO I IDENTIFIED, UM, THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED AND THERE IS ONE PROPOSED MODIFICATION, WHICH I REFERENCED EARLIER THIS EVENING.
UM, SO ONCE AGAIN, THERE ARE SOME ACTIVATION REQUIREMENTS FOR THE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS SAYS IS IT NEEDS TO BE RETAIL.
YOU, THEY CAN'T LATER CONVERT IT TO MULTIFAMILY AS AN EXAMPLE.
UM, THERE ALSO WAS THE OPEN SPACE, UH, DEDICATION ENHANCEMENTS, WHICH ARE MOSTLY COMPLETE.
UM, AND THEN THE, UH, FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE DOG PARK, WHAT HAS BEEN COMPLETE THIS TIME.
THERE'S ALSO, UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS THE PURCHASE OPTION FOR THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES, WHICH WE HAVE DISCUSSED.
UM, THERE ARE, WERE THE REDUCED CONSTRUCTION HOURS, WHICH, UH, WILL CONTINUE TO BE APPLICABLE EVEN FOR THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES MOVING FORWARD.
UM, THERE WAS THE EXTERIOR FACADE MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS SO THAT THE, IT WAS 90% AND THAT IS STILL THE CASE FOR ALL OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.
HOWEVER, FOR THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES, AS WE SAW EARLIER TONIGHT, UM, THE CADENCE HOMES IS REQUESTING A MASONRY PERCENTAGE BETWEEN 50 AND 88% PER FACADE.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY MODIFICATION FROM 2022 MOU TO WHAT IS BEING REVIEWED THIS EVENING.
THERE WAS ALSO A DONATION FOR PUBLIC ART, WHICH HAS BEEN COMPLETED BY AM EMILY.
UM, THERE WAS THE TREE TRANSPLANTING REQUIREMENTS LEAD CERTIFICATION EV STATIONS, WHICH IS ALL EITHER COMPLETED OR IN PROCESS.
UM, THE, UM, GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT FOR THE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS OF THE ADJACENT FENCES ON THOSE SEG FAMILY HOME PROPERTIES.
UM, THE TEMPORARY, THERE IS A REFERENCE WITHIN THESE DOCUMENTS FOR A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT INTO THE WHAT WILL BE THE TOWN PARK FOR THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES.
AND THEN THERE IS THE RESOLUTION OF A FENCE ENCROACHMENT ONTO WHAT WOULD BE THE TOWN PROPERTY.
SO THOSE ARE ALL MAJOR COMPONENTS WITHIN THE DOCUMENT.
BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE MDA, WHICH WOULD AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH EXECUTION OF THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR PHASE ONE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
LESLIE, CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE FIVE ON THE THIRD BULLET POINT AND NEAR THE END I'M JUST KIND OF, UH, HELP ME WITH THIS DEVELOPER INTENT TO RESTRICT TOWN HOMES.
YEAH, SO THAT WAS, UH, WE BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER.
SO, UM, CADENCE HAS AGREED TO, UM, RESTRICT SHORT TERM RENTALS WITHIN THE COVENANTS.
AND, AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN HOA, UH, CC AND S AS WELL.
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE? WHILE YOU'RE ON THAT SLIDE? THE, UH, FENCE IMPROVEMENTS, THIRD ONE FROM THE BOTTOM.
THEY HAVE SO AM EMILY'S THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC FINANCIAL OBLIGATION WITHIN THE MOU, HOWEVER, IS WHAT IT WAS STATED IN THE MOU IS THAT AMWAY WOULD PROCEED WITH, UM, COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS WITH MIDWAY MEADOWS, THE HOA, THE ADJACENT HOA AND COME TO SOME A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT.
THEY ACHIEVED THAT BY, UM, DONATING A SUM OF MONEY FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE FENCES.
SO AMWAY'S CONTRIBUTION TO THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED
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AT THE NEXT STAGE OF THAT WOULD BE, UH, THE EXECUTION BY THE PRIVATE HOMEOWNERS, THE RESIDENTIAL HOMEOWNERS TO ACTUALLY, UH, REPLACE THE FENCE WITH THE MONEY THAT AMIE HAS ALREADY DONATED.WELL, IN, IN, IN LIEU OF THE EMAIL THAT WE RECEIVED LATE TODAY, UM, APPARENTLY SOMEONE DOESN'T THINK THAT'S COMPLETED.
IS THAT NOT WITH EMILY, WHO, WHO, HOW, HOW IS THIS AFFECTING MM-HMM
SO WHAT THE MOU SAID, UM, LIKE I MENTIONED IS JUST THAT AM EMILY PURSUE A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO COME TO A COLLABORATIVE SOLUTION, WHICH THEY DID THAT.
UM, NOW REFERENCING THE, UM, LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED THIS AFTERNOON FROM A RESIDENT, UM, THAT IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE FENCE ENCROACHMENT.
SO BACK WHEN THIS MOU WAS CONTEMPLATED AND ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY COUNSEL, THE FENCE ENCROACHMENT WAS NOT A KNOWN QUANTITY.
RIGHT? SO THAT WAS NEVER EVEN CONTEMPLATED AS A PART OF THIS BULLET POINT, UM, THAT'S IDENTIFIED AS COMPLETED.
THAT WAS SIMPLY AM EMILY NEEDS TO WORK TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS TO COME TO A COMPROMISE AND A SOLUTION.
UM, NOW IN REFERENCE TO THE FENCE ENCROACHMENT, THAT IS AN OUTSTANDING ITEM.
HOWEVER, WITHIN THE AGREEMENT, UM, THERE ARE SEVEN IMPACTED, UM, RESIDENTIAL HOMES IN RELATION TO A EXISTING FENCE ENCROACHMENT.
UM, THAT IS WITHIN THE AGREEMENT TO, UM, APPLY A BOUNDARY LINE AGREEMENT.
AND THERE IS A SAMPLE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WITHIN THE MDA, UM, THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THOSE HOMEOWNERS.
UM, AND AMWAY IS IN PROCESS OF EXECUTING, UM, AS MANY OF THOSE THAT THEY CAN MM-HMM
AND, UM, FOR THOSE THAT THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO ACHIEVE, UH, EXECUTION OF THE BOUNDARY LINE AGREEMENT, THEN UH, THEY WILL HAVE TO POTENTIALLY PURSUE OTHER MEANS TO RESOLVE THAT.
UM, BUT IN REGARDLESS OF THAT, UH, AM DID AGREE TO AN INDEMNITY CLAUSE WITH THE TOWN AND WITHIN THIS AGREEMENT THAT WOULD ABSOLVE THE TOWN OF OF LIABILITY.
I THIS, UM, COMING IN AT SUCH LATE NOTICE, I I I'M NOT AS COMFORTABLE AS I WOULD LIKE TO BE.
I HAVE ZERO ISSUE WITH THIS PROJECT.
I WANNA SEE IT GO FORWARD, BUT AS LONG AS WE HAVE SOME OUTSTANDING CONCERNS, WE'RE GETTING ONE SIDE OF THE STORY.
I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO GET THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY BEFORE I'M ASKED TO VOTE ON THIS.
AND I, I, I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS FOR A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME TILL WE CAN GET THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY ON THIS AND, UH, MOVE FORWARD IN A, IN AN EQUITABLE MANNER, IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM, FROM THEM AND, AND GET THAT, GET THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY AS TO HOW WE CAN RESOLVE THIS.
SO THAT WOULD BE A MOTION THAT I WOULD MAKE THE TABLE FOR A SHORT TIME.
WE HAVE A MOTION OR SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
I, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, IF WE APPROVE THIS NOW OR LATER AND WE HAVE THIS RESIDENT, UM, OUTSTANDING AND IT, IT DOESN'T GET RESOLVED, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TOWN IS, IS GONNA BE, OR THAT, EXCUSE ME, AM EMILY'S GONNA INDEMNIFY THE TOWN? SO IT'S NOT THE TOWN'S RISK, BUT CAN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS OUTSTANDING ITEM? OR IS, IS IT, ISN'T IT BETTER TO RESOLVE IT WITH THIS RESIDENT BEFORE WE APPROVE THIS? AND I HAD ONE OTHER PROBLEM WITH THIS ANYWAY.
I'M QUESTIONING THE 50% AND WONDERING IF THAT COULD BE INCREASED TO 60 OR 75.
IS CAN WE MOVE TO APPROVE THIS IF WE DO WITH THE CHANGE? SO THOSE ARE MY TWO ISSUES.
YOU'RE YOU'RE REFERRING TO MASON RE REQUIREMENTS.
BUT ANYWAY, MY MAIN QUESTION IS WHAT DO WE DO IF WE DON'T RESOLVE IT WITH THIS, THIS RESIDENT RIGHT.
OF THE DISCUSSION? YEAH, ID LIKE TO MAKE A POINT IF I'M, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY, RAN RANDY AND, AND HOWARD.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY GONNA TELL WE'RE PRO BUSINESS.
UH, BRUNO JUST WALKED OUTTA HERE.
WE'RE GONNA HOLD UP THE TIMELINES WHERE THE, THE BALL IS MOVING ACROSS THE FIELD RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF PARTICULAR HOMEOWNERS WORKING OUT DETAILS WITH AMLI, WHICH I HAVE ALL FAITH THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WORK THAT OUT.
IT'S ONE HOMEOWNER OVER, WE, WE HAD THE
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DISCUSSION EARLIER.I HAVE NO FEAR THAT THEY'RE GONNA RESOLVE THAT THE INDEMNITY TAKES CARE OF ADDISON.
WE'RE SUPPORTING TWO BUSINESSES, AMLIE AND CADENCE HOMES AND THE PROJECTIONS OF KEEPING THIS THING ON TRACK BY NOT DOING THIS VOTE TONIGHT AND NOT APPROVING THIS TONIGHT.
WE JUST STOPPED THE PRESSES, WHICH BRUNO, IF HE WALKED BACK IN HERE, WOULD NOT BE HAPPY ABOUT IF WE WERE TO BE, BE TRUTHFUL WITH HIM ABOUT THAT BECAUSE HE OBVIOUSLY KNOWS THERE'S ONE HOMEOWNER AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE GONNA GET THIS THING FIXED OVER ONE HOMEOWNER.
SO ON THIS FENCING ENCROACHMENT, I DO, UH, I AM SYMPATHETIC TO THE HOMEOWNER ALSO FOR SURE.
BUT, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UM, THE PROPERTY WILL BE ABLE TO BE USED, IT WILL BE PROPERLY NOTED IN THE DALLAS COUNTY, UH, RECORDS OF THE LAND.
UH, THE DISCREPANCY HAS TO DO WITH SOMEBODY'S, UM, UM, SURVEY, UH, 40 YEARS AGO VERSUS THREE SURVEYS CURRENTLY THAT DISAGREE WITH THAT LINE.
AND SO THAT HAS TO BE RESOLVED.
SO PUSHING THIS FORWARD, THE MECHANISM THAT'S IN THERE, AS EXPLAINED TO ME IS, UH, ALLOWS THIS TO GO FORWARD, REMOVES ADDISON FROM THE, UH, LIABILITY, WHICH IS IMPORTANT, BUT I CARE ABOUT THE HOMEOWNER.
THEN THE HOMEOWNER HAS TO WORK IT OUT WITH AMLI.
SO KIND OF BACK TO HOWARD'S QUESTION IS WHAT GUARANTEE DO WE HAVE THAT THAT GETS WORKED OUT WITH AM THAT'S, THAT'S ONE QUESTION.
AND THE OTHER POINT IS THAT COULD NEVER GET WORKED OUT.
SO WE COULD JUST STOP THE GAME RIGHT NOW AND NOT APPROVE THIS.
SO MY, THAT'S WHY I WOULD MOVE FORWARD.
I FEEL LIKE THERE'S MECHANISMS TO ADDRESS THIS, BUT WHAT, WHAT, UM, GUARANTEE THAT DO WE HAVE THAT THE HOMEOWNER WILL BE, UM, WORK, IT WILL BE WORKED OUT WITH THE HOMEOWNER.
AM I I WOULD, I WOULD SAY BASED ON THE AGREEMENT IS IN AN AM EMILY'S INTEREST TO GET THIS RESOLVED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
'CAUSE WITH, WITH THE CURRENT AGREEMENT, THE LIABILITY IS ON AMLI TO RESOLVE IT, NOT THE TOWN.
SO IT IS IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY MAKE A RESOLUTION OFFERED TO REBUILD A NEW FENCE, UH, INCLUDING THE, THE PROPERTY THAT'S IN QUESTION.
AND IT'S AGAIN, STILL GONNA BE THE LANDOWNER, UH, PROPERTY OWNER'S, UH, PROPERTY TO USE MM-HMM
UM, OR MOVE IT TO THE PROPER PROPERTY LINE.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S THE OPTIONS THERE FOR THE HOMEOWNER MM-HMM
THERE ARE SEVERAL, SEVERAL OPTIONS.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, RESOLUTIONS, REMEDIES TO THIS MM-HMM
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH THAT.
BUT I UNDERSTAND I'M SYMPATHETIC AS WELL, BUT MOVING, HAVING ALL THESE POINTS IN PLACE MAKES ME COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO, UH, TO APPROVE THIS AS PRESENTED SINCE, SINCE THE HOMEOWNER'S NOT HERE.
CAN SOMEONE FROM AM E UH, SPEAK TO US AND MAYBE SHARE WITH US THE HOMEOWNERS? WE, WE, WE JUST, WE HEARD ABOUT IT TONIGHT, SO I UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH RANDY THAT WE'D LIKE TO HEAR THE OTHER SIDE.
IF SOMEBODY COULD SPEAK TO US ABOUT THAT, IT MIGHT HELP US MOVE, MOVE OUT OFF THIS ISSUE.
HOWARD, RANDY, GOOD QUESTIONING.
UH, BOTTOM LINE TO, TO DARREN'S POINT, THE WAY THAT THIS AGREEMENT HAS BEEN DRAFTED, IT DOES, IN OUR OPINION, PROVIDE THE APPROPRIATE PROTECTIONS TO DEDICATE THE PARK TO HELP CADENCE MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT.
IT SLOWS DOWN THEIR PROCESS TOO.
UM, BUT THE WAY THAT IT'S DRAFTED, IT WOULD ALLOW THE HOMEOWNERS TO KEEP THEIR FENCE EXACTLY WHERE IT IS WITHOUT HAVING TO MOVE IT AND ALLOW US TO DEDICATE THE PARK TO THE TOWN.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, CAN WE GO TO CHRIS FIRST? BECAUSE SURE.
CHRIS HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GO.
I AM SYMPATHETIC TO THAT LAST HOLDOUT OF A HOMEOWNER.
UM, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANNA HOLD UP THIS PROCESS.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP THE MOMENTUM WE'VE GOT.
UM, I REALLY WANT THE TOWN TO BE INDEMNIFIED.
UM, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE SOME REMEDIES THERE THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO AMIE AND THAT HOMEOWNER.
SO I REALLY DON'T WANNA HOLD THIS UP AND WANNA MOVE FORWARD.
RANDY, YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE? YEAH, PLEASE.
UH, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, AND I AM NOT IN THE LEAST OPPOSED OR TRY TO STAND UP, UH, UH, IN OPPOSITION OF THIS, BUT I AM SYMPATHETIC TO THE HOMEOWNER, AND I, WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE CERTAIN THAT THERE WILL BE SOME REMEDIES, I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THOSE REMEDIES ARE.
I, I JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM.
WHAT, WHAT REMEDY DO THEY WANT? WHAT ARE, WHAT IS THEIR PERCEPTION THAT THEY FEEL LIKE WHEN, WHEN I HEAR THAT YOU'RE GONNA BUILD THEM A NEW FENCE ON THE EXACT SAME LINE WHERE IT IS, AND YOU'RE NOT SEEDING THE LAND TO 'EM, BUT YOU'RE NOT TAKING THAT, YOU'RE NOT MAKING THEM MOVE THE OFF THE PROPERTY LINE.
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FACE TO BE MORE THAN FAIR, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.THERE HAS TO BE SOME OTHER WAY THAT THEY ARE FEELING AN APPROVAL, UH, UH, UH, THAT THEY DON'T LIKE ABOUT THAT.
UH, AND WHEN YOU SAY THE BUSINESSES, WE HAVE TWO FABULOUS BUSINESS HERE THAT I WANNA SUPPORT THEM, BUT MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS TO THE CITIZENS OF ADDISON AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS GOOD.
I, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I CAN'T SEE WHAT THEIR ISSUE IS.
IF THEY GET A NEW FENCE OUT OF IT ON THE EXACT SAME LINE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT IT IS.
AND I'M NOT ASKING TO PUT THIS OFF FOR SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR.
HE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY CONSTRUCTION GOING ON ON THIS FOR A WHILE.
NOW, I'M TALKING ABOUT A WEEK OR TWO TO WHERE WE CAN TRY TO HEAR ANOTHER SIDE OF THIS STORY.
I'M TALKING ABOUT A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME,
IS THERE A QUESTION I CAN ANSWER? NO.
MAYOR, THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO ADD IS, UM, REGARDING THE, THE MASONRY, UM, ITEM THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, HOWARD, WE NOW, WE JUST APPROVED THE MASONRY THAT THEY REQUESTED ON FIVE C AND D.
SO WE'D BE KIND OF GOING BACKWARDS IF WE, UH, CHANGED IT IN THE, UH, MOU.
I THINK WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM.
UH, UH, ALL IN FAVOR TO, TO TABLE THIS ITEM.
ALRIGHT, THAT, THAT, UH, MOTION IS NOT APPROVED TO ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
THANK YOU, DARREN, FOR THE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT WE APPROVE THAT IN FIVE C AND FIVE D ABOUT THE MASON AREA? I DON'T SEE THAT HERE.
IS IT IN THE DETAILS? AND I'M, I'M NOT SEEING IT IN THE, AM I LOOKING AT THE WRONG FIVE? SEEN FIVE? OR WAS IT THE DETAILS THAT WAS ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, UH, FOR THE FACADES OF THE TOWN HOMES? SO, UM, THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION THEY IN, IN LIEU OF ADDITIONAL MASONRY, UM, THE CADENCE HOMES WANTED TO USE THE CEDAR STYLE LIKE PLANK TO ADD ON THE FRONT OF THE TOWN HOMES.
THAT WAS THAT WOOD LOOK, UM, MATERIAL TO ADD SOME ARCHITECTURAL, AN AESTHETIC INTEREST VARIATION TO THE FACADE.
UM, AND IF IT MATTERS, THAT MATERIAL'S ACTUALLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN MASONRY, BUT THAT WAS THE VARIATION THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT NORMALLY THE, THE 90% IS WE, WE WANT MORE MASONRY.
SO I WAS CONCERNED AND 50 TO 88, UH, IT JUST DIDN'T CLARIFY TO ME.
SO THAT COULD MEAN 50 ACROSS THE BOARD.
I I JUST WOULD LIKE TO, SORRY, THAT WAS, UM, SO ONE OF THE FACADES IS 51 IS IN THE BALLPARK OF 68, AND I BELIEVE THE OTHER TWO ARE 88.
SO THAT'S WHY THE RANGE IS THERE.
AND THOSE ARE ONLY FOR THE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES.
THOSE THAT, THAT REDUCTION FROM 90% DOES NOT APPLY TO ANY OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO ALL OF THE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE RENTAL TOWN HOMES AND THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS STILL WILL BE, UM, AT 90 OR ABOVE MASONRY CONSTRUCTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE'LL HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.
I JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.
NA NA IS, NA IS A GOOD RESPONSE.
[b. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving a contract agreement between the Town of Addison and Community Waste Disposal, L.P., in an amount not to exceed $339,370 for residential services and in an amount not to exceed $90,955 for facility services for a total amount not to exceed $430,325, authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement, and providing an effective date.]
ITEM SIX B PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONTRACT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND COMMUNITY WASTE DISPOSAL LP IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $339,370 FOR RESIDENTIAL SERVICES IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $90,955 FOR FACILITIES SERVICES FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $430,325.AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
BECKY, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, BECKY DIVINITY, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING.
I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE, UH, COLLECTION CONTRACT.
SO AS YOU'RE ALL AWARE, UM, OUR SERVICE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS GOING TO CONTINUE.
UM, WE HAVE MANUAL CURBSIDE RESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE COLLECTION.
UM, THERE ARE BAG PICKUPS THAT OCCUR TWICE PER WEEK, INCLUDING THE CURBSIDE ALLEY AND THE CLOSET COLLECTION.
UM, THE VOLUME IS NOT DICTATED AND THE RECYCLING PICKUP HAPPENS ONCE A WEEK.
UM, THE TOWN FACILITY SOLID WASTE COLLECTION IS ALSO PROVIDED BY CWD.
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ROLL OFF DUST DUMPSTERS THAT ARE PROVIDED AT OUR TOWN FACILITIES.UM, IT INCLUDES REFUSE AND RECYCLING, AND THAT COLLECTION IS MAINTAINED PRIMARILY ONCE A WEEK, BUT ALSO, UM, AS NEEDED, WE CAN INCREASE THAT.
THE, UM, CHANGES THAT YOU WILL SEE FROM OUR CURRENT CONTRACT TO THE CONTRACT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY AND BRINGING FORWARD, UM, IS AN ANNUAL COST ADJUSTMENT AND REVENUE SHARING MODEL, UM, THAT'S BEING USED.
THAT'S BASED ON SERVICE BEING RENDERED BY THREE ITEMS. ONE IS THE CPI, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ALREADY BEING USED.
THE SECOND IS THE CNG FUEL, AND THE THIRD IS DISPOSAL.
UM, SOME UPDATES ALSO THAT WERE MADE TO THE CONTRACT.
WE'RE ADDING SOME LIQUIDATED AND ESCALATED DAMAGES.
SO IF, UM, FOR EXAMPLE THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT ARISES, WE NOW HAVE ALL OF THOSE THINGS LINED OUT IN THE CONTRACT THAT HELPS GIVE US, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH CWD TO RESOLVE.
THE MONTHLY FEE FOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS WILL BE INCREASED TO $15 AND 74 CENTS.
UM, AND MR. GLUM WILL BRING BACK A ORDINANCE TO YOU IF YOU SO APPROVE THIS, UH, AGENDA ITEM AT THE OCTOBER 28TH COUNCIL MEETING, UM, WHERE THE FEE WILL BE PROPOSED TO BE, UH, RAISED AND BE EFFECTIVE NOVEMBER 1ST.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS? SO, ON SLIDE MY PAGE NUMBER'S VERY SMALL.
UM, WHAT IS, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE THE FEE, NOT AN ADDITIONAL PART? THAT'S CORRECT.
THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL RATE IS $14 AND 83 CENTS, AND THE RATE WILL GO TO $15 AND 74 CENTS.
WHAT PERCENTAGE IS THAT? UH, I CAN WORK IT OUT.
UH, I BELIEVE IT'S RIGHT AT 6%.
I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THAT MEMORIZED.
HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN 1574? UM, IT WILL BE, HOW MEAN HAS IT BEEN? 1483? UM, IT'S ANNUALLY ADJUSTED BASED ON THE CPI, SO IT'S ONLY BEEN FOR THIS PAST YEAR.
OTHER QUESTIONS? WILL THIS BE PASSED ON TO EACH HOMEOWNER THEN IN THEIR BILL? OR IS THIS ABSORBED BY THE CITY SOMEHOW? UM, NO, THIS WILL BE THE RESIDENTIAL RATES THAT WILL BE PASSED ON TO THE RESIDENTS.
AND THIS IS ONLY RESIDENTIAL CON? THAT'S CORRECT.
COUNCIL'S DIRECTED THE TOWN TO GO THROUGH AN RFP PROCESS FOR COMMERCIAL SOLID WASTE.
THE, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN A, IN A WORK SESSION ABOUT REDUCING TRASH PICKUP TO ONCE A WEEK.
DID, DID WE PURSUE THAT AT ALL IN THE CONTRACT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF SAVINGS RESIDENTS MIGHT GET ON THAT? WE DID NOT.
WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE EXISTING CONTRACT THE WAY THAT IT WAS WITH THE TWO TIMES PER WEEK.
I JUST WANTED TO, IF WE HAD LOOKED AT THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT? KIND OF FIGURE OUT IF THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE THERE? THE, THE TRASH TRUCK ZIPPED THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRETTY QUICK ON THAT SECOND TRASH DAY.
AND, UH, IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO LOOK AT THAT.
I'M SURE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS.
UM, THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS YEAR.
UM, BUT IN THE FUTURE, HAPPY TO LOOK INTO IT.
UH, THE QUESTIONS, SO THE QUESTION ON THAT, ARE WE IN A CONTRACT THAT, THAT THE BASE AMOUNT IS FIXED FOR THREE YEARS OR FIVE YEARS? UM, THIS WILL BE AN ANNUAL ADJUSTMENT THAT WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD, THIS ONE.
BUT IF WE WANT TO EVALUATE THE ONE VERSUS TWO PICKUP, THAT'S THE QUESTION.
UH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD REVIEW EVERY INDIVIDUAL YEAR.
UM, THIS CONTRACT IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN EVALUATE IF WE WANT TO MAKE ANY TERMS OR CHANGES TO THE AGREEMENT.
OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION? MAYOR? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND FROM, WAS THAT DAN OR CHRIS? CHRIS, UH, SECOND FROM CHRIS.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[c. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution creating a Community Bond Advisory Committee for a proposed May 2026 Bond Election; providing for the appointment of Committee members; establishing a charge for the Committee; and providing an effective date.]
ALRIGHT, ITEM SIX C, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION CREATING A COMMUNITY BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR A PROPOSED MAY 20, 26 BOND ELECTION, PROVIDING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS ESTABLISHING A CHARGE FOR COMMITTEE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.SARAH? UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR.
UM, SO THIS ITEM IS, UH, FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER RESOLUTION TO BOTH CREATE AND APPOINT A CITIZEN BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, BY WAY OF QUICK BACKGROUND, UM, CITY COUNCIL DID HAVE A WORK SESSION AT YOUR LAST MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, UM, TO CONSIDER FORMING A BOND COMMITTEE.
AND AT THAT TIME, COUNSEL PROVIDED DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE RESOLUTION.
UM, THE PROPOSED COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP WILL BE FOR A TOTAL OF 14 MEMBERS, UM, TWO APPOINTED BY EACH COUNCIL MEMBER.
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UM, AND THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT THEY ARE A RESIDENT OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON.UH, WE DID, UH, PROMOTE AND OPEN AN APPLICATION PERIOD FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE COMMITTEE.
UM, THAT CLOSED LAST WEEK ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 7TH.
AND WE DISTRIBUTED THOSE APPLICATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION FOR APPOINTMENTS.
UH, AS PART OF THE RESOLUTION, WE DID DRAFT A CHARGE FOR THE COMMITTEE, UM, BASED ON COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION AT THE LAST LAST WORK SESSION.
UM, SO WHAT WE HEARD IS THAT THE, UM, COMMITTEE SHALL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL CONCERNING A CAPITAL PROJECT TO ADDRESS THE TOWN'S, UM, AGING POLICE AND COURTS FACILITY AND THE MONETARY AMOUNT OF THAT PROJECT, UM, THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE PUBLIC AT A POTENTIAL MAY, 2026 BOND ELECTION.
UM, COUNSEL SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSED THREE OPTIONS FOR THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT AND REVIEW FURTHER AND VET OUT FURTHER.
UM, THOSE ARE LISTED HERE ON THE SCREEN.
UM, THE FIRST OPTION WOULD BE TO EITHER REMODEL THE EXISTING POLICE AND COURTS FACILITY OR BUILD NEW AT THE SAME EXISTING SITE.
THE SECOND OPTION WOULD BE TO PURCHASE AND REMODEL A VACANT BUILDING IN THE TOWN.
AND THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE TO CONSTRUCT A NEW POLICE AND COURTS FACILITY ON PROPERTY, PROPERTY THAT'S CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE TOWN AND OR THROUGH THE ACQUISITION OF NEW PROPERTY.
SO AS WE WENT OVER LAST TIME, UM, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THREE OR FOUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS, UM, FOR THE BOND COMMITTEE TO DO THAT SCOPE OF WORK WITH THE FIRST COMMITTEE MEETING BEING ON OCTOBER 30TH.
UM, AND THEN WITH A GOAL FOR THE COMMITTEE TO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL BY EARLY TO MID-JANUARY OF 2026 IN ORDER TO MEET A TIMELINE TO CALL A BOND ELECTION IN MAY OF 2026, I BELIEVE THE DEADLINE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AND CALL A BOND ELECTION IS FEBRUARY 13TH, 2026.
UM, THESE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, UH, WE WILL DISTRIBUTE AGENDAS AND MATERIALS TO THE COMMITTEE IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETINGS.
THEY'LL ALSO BE POSTED ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, UM, AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING.
AND THEN WE PLAN TO RECORD THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS AS WELL AND POST THOSE ON THE WEBSITE AS WE'VE DONE WITH OTHER COMMITTEES IN THE TOWN.
SO THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU, UM, WOULD CREATE THE COMMITTEE, UM, AS WELL AS ALLOW YOU TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS THIS EVENING.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
AND, UH, DID WE HAVE, IS IT, WAS IT 27 TOTAL PEOPLE THAT, UH, THAT, UH, APPLIED? DOES THAT SOUND KIND OF RIGHT? IT, YEAH.
NICE TO GET THAT, UH, INTEREST FROM THE, FROM THE PUBLIC.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY ELSE? SARAH? SO ONE OF THE, UH, 28 PEOPLE THAT APPLIED WAS, UH, TECHNICALLY NOT AN ADDISON RESIDENCE, CORRECT? THAT'S A REQUIREMENT.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I THOUGHT.
WERE THOSE LISTED PUBLICLY? WERE THEY ON ANYWHERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHO, WHO LISTED THOSE? THE, THE NAMES THEMSELVES WERE NOT.
IS THAT A PRIVACY ISSUE OR WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE REASONING THAT THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PUBLIC INFORMATION? UH, IT'S, IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION.
IF SOMEONE ASKED FOR IT, WE JUST, I GET IT.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO APPOINT SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T APPLY BUT HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN BEING ON THE COMMITTEE? AS LONG AS THEY ARE A TOWN OF ADDISON RESIDENT, UM, WE WOULD ASK THAT THEY FILL OUT THE APPLICATION.
SO WE HAVE THAT SAME INFORMATION, UM, AVAILABLE TO US AS WELL.
I THINK THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW WE'VE DONE IT WITH APPOINTMENTS IN THE PAST.
ULTIMATELY THAT'S THE DECISION FOR CITY COUNCIL.
WHAT DOES THE PROCESS LOOK LIKE? WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA ADD TWO FROM EACH OF US AND THEN WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON ALL OF THEM.
AND IF WE DON'T AGREE WITH ONE OF THEM, WE VOTE NO.
THAT IS FOR, THAT IS FOR COUNCIL.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA PUT, WE'RE GONNA PUT THE, PUT ALL OF THE, UH, UH, THE ELECTIONS UP AND THAT'S GONNA BE THE MOTION.
AND YOU, YOU CAN VOTE YES OR NO.
IT, IT'S NOT TO DEBATE YOUR SELECTION.
SO WITH THAT, SARAH, DO YOU WANT TAKE US AN ORDER OR DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE IT? I'LL LET, I'LL LET YOU DO THAT.
I'M HAPPY TO DO, HAPPY TO DO THAT.
UH, SO WHY DON'T WE START FROM THE, FROM THE LEFT END.
MR. CIO, WHO ARE YOUR TWO APPOINTEES? YOU WANNA DO BOTH OF THEM AT ONCE? SURE.
UNLESS YOU'D RATHER WE COULD DO ONE AND ONE AND ONE, DON'T MATTER TO ME.
WHO'S THE FIRST ONE THERE? DAN? ARMANDO GALL.
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I'M JUANO GALLO.AND CHRIS, WHO'S YOUR FIRST ONE? UH, BERTHA RIVERA.
AND, UM, AND I'LL BE LAST, I DON'T MIND THAT, UH, DARREN, UM, GO WITH, UH, JIM DEUR.
HOWARD? I'M GONNA GO WITH TRICIA STEWART.
I'M GONNA GO WITH FRAN POWELL.
AND FOR MY FIRST ONE I'M GONNA DO, UH, JOSEPH PEDROZA.
AND THEN WE'LL START, GO BACK DOWN WITH DAN AGAIN.
OH, HE DIDN'T APPLY, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT I SPOKE TO HIM AND HE SAID HE WOULD BE, HE WOULD ACCEPT.
AND MARLON, UM, HELP ME WITH THIS.
DID, DID, UH, DID, UH, BRUCE, DID YOU SAY JOE PEDROZA? I DID.
AND FOR MY SECOND CHOICE WILL BE NANCY CRAIG.
AND WE HAVE OUR COMMITTEE, IF WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND IT'S APPROVED.
IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE THE SELECTIONS BY THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THE BOND ELECTION COMMITTEE.
AND MARLON, FOR THE, I HAVE A QUESTION DISCUSSION.
SO, UH, CHRIS, WHO WAS YOUR SECOND ONE? UH, RON WHITEHEAD.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THEN THAT, THAT IS APPROVED.
WE HAVE OUR BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR 2025.
[d. Present, discuss and consider action on a Resolution approving an amendment to the Professional Services Agreement between the Town and GFF Design Architects dated January 7, 2025 to include Additional Service Proposal No. 1 for planning and design services for the Police and Courts Facility Project in an amount not to exceed $68,400.00, authorizing the City Manager to execute the amendment, and providing an effective date.]
AND OUR NEXT ITEM IS, UH, ITEM SIX D, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AMENDMENT TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND GFF DESIGN ARCHITECTS DATED JANUARY 7TH, 2025 TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL SERVICE PROPOSAL NUMBER ONE FOR PLANNING AND DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE POLICE AND COURTS FACILITY PROJECT.OH, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $68,400, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AMENDMENT AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE BILL.
SO BILL HAS, UH, LOST HIS VOICE.
SO I DON'T, HOWARD, IT'LL BE A BRIEF PRESIDENTIAL, SO I I'LL GIVE IT A SHOT, BUT IF YOU CAN'T HEAR OR UNDERSTAND ME, PLEASE, WE'VE GOT BACKUP.
SO THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE DON'T WANNA PRESS STRAIN ON YOUR VOICE.
AND I KNOW THERE'S A, A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE IN THE ROOM THAT CAN ASSIST.
UM, SO THIS ITEM IS FOR, UM, COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, UM, AN AGREEMENT AMENDMENT WITH GFF DESIGN, UM, FOR THE POLICE AND COURTS FACILITY BUILDING AND OPTIONS, UM, THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE BOND COMMITTEE MEETING AND SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE JUST WENT OVER.
UM, SO JUST TO GO INTO SOME BACKGROUND ABOUT HOW WE SELECTED GFF DESIGN FOR THE INITIAL SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR TO DATE, UM, WE DID DO A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, UH, BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2024, UM, TO SOLICIT PROPOSALS FROM QUALIFIED FIRMS, UM, TO CONDUCT A NEEDS AND SITE ASSESSMENT FOR A NEW POLICE AND COURTS BUILDING.
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A SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, A SITE ASSESSMENT FOR THE CURRENT SITE, AS WELL AS ALTERNATIVE SITE ASSESSMENTS, AN EVALUATION OF CONSTRUCTION OPTIONS AND COSTS ON THOSE SITES.UM, AND WE DID RECEIVE 10 RESPONSES TO THAT RFQ.
SO A COMMITTEE WENT THROUGH, REVIEWED AND SCORED THOSE RESPONSES AND UNSELECTED GFF DESIGN, UM, THEY HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES IN THE REGION AND THE AREA, AND I KNOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND WE'RE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THAT SELECTION OF GFF DESIGN.
UM, SO BASED ON THE EVALUATION AT THE TIME, UM, WE MOVED FORWARD IN JANUARY, 2025 WITH THAT INITIAL SCOPE OF WORK.
UM, AND AS WE WENT THROUGH IN THE LAST WORK SESSION WITH CITY COUNCIL, UM, THAT WAS BASED ON PRIOR DIRECTION TO GO AHEAD, MOVE FORWARD, ASSESS IT FURTHER.
UM, SO THAT WAS THAT INITIAL SCOPE OF WORK.
UM, SINCE THAT TIME, UM, WE'VE COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
WE'VE PRESENTED THOSE INITIAL RESULTS BACK IN MAY OF 2025.
UM, AND NOW AT THE MOST RECENT COUNCIL WORK SESSION, UM, WE DID GET CLEAR DIRECTION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
ALSO LOOKING AT THE THREE OPTIONS THAT WERE LISTED, INCLUDING A NEW OPTION THAT WE HAVE NOT STUDIED, UM, FURTHER, UM, POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT REMODELING THE CURRENT FACILITY.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO EVALUATE CLOSER AS WELL AS JUST CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THE SPACE, REFINE THAT, FURTHER, REFINE THE SITE ASSESSMENTS THEY'VE ALREADY DONE AND LOOK AT THAT NEW OPTION.
UM, SO WE, UH, ASKED GFF DESIGN FOR AN ADDITIONAL SCOPE OF SERVICES, UM, FOR WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
THEY SUBMITTED THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THIS AGENDA ITEM IN A NOT TO EXCEED ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF $68,400.
UM, WE DID INCLUDE IN THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS DOCUMENT A BREAKDOWN FROM GFF DESIGN THAT SPECIFICALLY GOES INTO, UM, WHAT THAT $68,400 REPRESENTS FOR ADDITIONAL SCOPE.
UM, SO THEY ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UM, ABOUT THAT SCOPE OF WORK AND IT'S LISTED, UH, FURTHER HERE ON THE SCREEN.
UM, BUT IT DOES INCLUDE, AGAIN, GOING THROUGH REFINING THE SPACE PROGRAM FURTHER, LOOKING AT WHAT DO WE NEED, HOW WOULD THAT FIT INTO THE SITES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OR THE OPTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SOME MORE SUPPORTING THE BOND COMMITTEE MEETINGS, UM, PROVIDING COST ESTIMATE SUPPORT.
AND THEN ALSO THEIR ASSESSMENT DOES INCLUDE, UM, BRINGING ON STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS TO LOOK AT THE EXISTING BUILDING'S CAPACITY AND ABILITY FOR A REMODEL.
SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UM, OR, UH, CALL UP ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD NEED TO, TO ANSWER AS WELL.
I I, I GUESS THIS IS FOR GFFI, I DON'T KNOW.
I'VE NEVER SERVED ON A COMMITTEE AND I JUST AM STILL LEARNING HOW THESE COMMITTEES WORK.
AND MY QUESTION IS, DOES THE COMMITTEE CHOOSE WHAT, WHAT WE ULTIMATELY END UP WITH? OR DOES GFF KIND OF TELL US WHAT TO DO AND THE COMMITTEE SECONDS? THAT? I DON'T THINK THAT'S A, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A QUESTION FOR GFF.
SO THE BOND COMMITTEE'S GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL AND THAT THAT COULD BE BROAD OR THAT COULD BE NARROW.
THEY COULD COME BACK AND THEY COULD SAY, WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU, UM, GO THAT COUNCIL MOVES FORWARD WITH A BOND ELECTION FOR UNDER $50 MILLION OR $50 MILLION.
THEY COULD SAY, WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU REBUILD ON THE CURRENT SITE, THAT YOU LOOK AT A VACANT OFFICE BUILDING, OR YOU, YOU LOOK, YOU STILL LOOK AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
SO IT CAN BE AS BROADER, AS NARROW AS THEY WANT, BUT THAT'S ULTIMATELY THE COMMITTEE'S DECISION TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION WHATEVER THEY WANT.
AND THEN CITY COUNCIL'S DECISION WHETHER TO TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION, CHANGE THE RECOMMENDATION, OR DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
WHAT GFF WILL DO, WHAT STAFF WILL DO IS LEAD IS WORK WITH THEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS, LEAD THEM AS WE'VE LAID OUT ON THE PREVIOUS SLOT ON THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION.
THOSE MEETINGS GO THROUGH ALL THE OPTIONS.
GFF IS GONNA BE ABLE TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY GIVE MORE PRECISION TO THE ESTIMATES AS THEY LOOK AT THE OPTIONS.
SO THEY CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO THAT PIECE OF WHAT THEY'LL ADD TO THE COMPONENT, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS AS FAR AS WHERE THE RESPONSIBILITIES LIE.
I'VE GONE TO SOME COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND I WAS IN THE BACKGROUND.
I REALLY COULDN'T TELL WHAT WAS WAS GOING ON MM-HMM
BECAUSE THEY WERE IN LITTLE TABLES AND GROUPS AND I DON'T KNOW, I JUST WONDER IS IT GONNA BE GFS THAT TELLS US WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING OR IS IT COMMITTEE? AND SO I JUST WONDERED HOW GFF ENGAGES WITH YEP.
I THINK THEY CAN ADDRESS THAT QUESTION.
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GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.UH, I'VE GOT JASON HERE WITH GFF, UM, AND SO, I'M SORRY, HOW, WHAT WAS THE EXACT QUESTION? WELL, I JUST WANT TO KNOW.
I IS, IS YOUR NAME'S JEFF? JASON? UH, JASON.
UH, I JUST WANNA KNOW, DOES THE STAFF OR THE THE CONSULTANT STEER THE COMMITTEE OR DOES IT, DO THEY JUST LISTEN TO THE QUESTIONS THE COMMITTEE HAS AND ANSWER THE QUESTION? SO THE COMMITTEE, I, I JUST, I WANT KNOW WHAT THIS PROCESS IS AND I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO, I GUESS WE'RE VOTING NOW TO SPEND $117,000 FOR THEIR EXPERTISE AT THESE MEETINGS.
IS THAT RIGHT? ISN'T THAT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? WELL, THE OTHER 68,000, WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED A 49.
HOW ABOUT WHAT ARE WE, I I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT TO GET FOR THIS INVESTMENT.
THAT'S REALLY WHERE MY QUESTIONS COME.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JASON CAVE WITH GFF, UH, THE OFFICE ADDRESS, 30 30 NASKI WAY DOWN IN DALLAS.
UM, YES TO YOUR QUESTION, LET ME SPEAK TO JUST KIND OF WHAT WE'RE WE'RE PLANNING TO DO HERE, SARAH.
THANK YOU, UM, FOR KIND OF RUNNING THROUGH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE JANUARY, UH, WITH CITY STAFF AND THE DEPARTMENT DEVELOPING A PROGRAM AND WORKING THROUGH OUR INITIAL ATTEMPT AT, AT, UH, BUILDING A PROJECT FOR THE TOWN.
SINCE THEN, WE'VE RECEIVED SOME DIRECTION THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO OUT TO BOND.
WE'RE GONNA CONVENE WITH A BOND COMMITTEE.
SO THIS PROPOSAL IS REALLY FOR OUR SERVICES NOW TO HELP SHEPHERD ALONG THAT BOND COMMITTEE AND REALLY BE AT THEIR BECK AND CALL AS THEY TRY TO PROCESS THESE THREE OR TRULY REALLY FOUR DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO CONSIDER.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS HELP PUT SOME FLESH ON THE BONES OF THOSE OPTIONS FOR THE BOND COMMITTEE.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE PROGRAM AND WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME 3D MODELING.
UH, WE'RE GONNA PRODUCE IMAGERY THAT HELPS, UH, FLESH OUT THOSE DESIGNS SO THEY CAN SEE IT.
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND STAFF IN TERMS OF OPERATIONS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME WRITTEN TEXTS ABOUT RENOVATING THE BUILDING.
WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? HOW DO WE DO IT? UM, HOW DO WE ADD ON HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT EXIST NOW? SO WE'RE GONNA PUT SOME FLESH ON THAT AND WE'RE GONNA BE AT EVERY MEETING AND WE'RE GONNA BE PRESENTING THAT VISUALLY, UH, AND GRAPHICALLY TO THE COMMITTEE SO THEY CAN MAKE DECISIONS.
AND THEN THAT, UM, IT'S LIKELY THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD SAY, WELL, WHAT IF WE DID THIS? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE QUESTIONS WILL BE.
WHAT IF WE DID THAT? AND IT'S OUR JOB TO THEN KIND OF FLESH THAT OUT FURTHER AND BRING BACK TO THEM, UH, FURTHER DEVELOP DESIGN SO THAT THEY CAN HONE IN ON WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS GONNA BE.
UH, WE'RE ALSO TAKING A FEW FACILITY TOURS.
UM, I'VE DESIGNED OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, A NUMBER OF FACILITIES IN NORTH TEXAS, UH, ALONG WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY CONSULTANT, DON BERGER, WHO'S PART OF OUR CONTRACT.
UH, AND WE'RE GONNA BE LEADING COMMITTEE MEMBERS, STAFF, AND THE DEPARTMENT THROUGH THOSE TOURS AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS IT REASONABLE TO YOU THAT WE CAN REACH A DECISION IN FOUR MEETINGS OF AN HOUR AND A HALF EACH? IS THAT POSSIBLE? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE TIME DURATION, BUT I THINK FOUR MEETINGS, YES.
WE JUST HELPED, UH, THE TOWN OF PROSPER GO THROUGH THIS VERY SAME PROCESS THIS SUMMER.
UH, AND I THINK THEY HAD A SIMILAR SCHEDULE.
THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT AND ENDURING.
SO YOU REFERENCED PUTTING FLESH ON THE BONE FOR US LAYMAN THAT I NEED TO SEE IT IN IN 3D AS YOU SAID, MODELING, AS WE JUST SAW FROM THE BUILDERS, THEY CAN SHOW US LIKE RENDERINGS FROM A BIRD'S EYE VIEW.
ARE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT KIND OF 3D MODELING TO SHARE WITH THE BOND COMMITTEE AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH AND GIVING YOU THOUGHTS OR YOU'RE OVERHEARING THOUGHTS? YES, YES.
UH, NOT LIVE, CORRECT, BUT YES, BACK AND FORTH AND, UM, WE'LL PROBABLY BE DOING WHAT WE'D CALL MASSING MODELING.
UM, WE PROBABLY WON'T BE GETTING INTO MATERIALS, RIGHT? SPECIFIC WINDOWS AND DOOR LOCATIONS, BUT YEAH, HEIGHTS, SETBACKS, WHAT'S PARKING, WHAT'S LANDSCAPING? WHERE ARE THE VEHICULAR GATES? WHERE'S THE PUBLIC ENTRY, WHERE'S THE STAFF ENTRY? ALL THOSE KIND OF OPERATIONAL, UM, SEQUENCING OF THE BUILDING SO THAT WE'LL HAVE A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
YEAH, THIS WORKS AND IT'S WITHIN BUDGET, UM, OR NO, IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK.
SO YOU JUST MENTIONED YOU GOT THROUGH DOING PROSPER AND DID THEY OPT AFTER ALL IS SAID AND DONE, THE BOND COMMITTEE UP THERE, DID THEY OPT TO DO A REFURB? DID THEY DO A NEW BUILDING? WHAT DID THEY END UP DOING OUTTA CURIOSITY? UM, YEAH, SO WHEN WE STARTED WORKING WITH PROSPER IN 2018, THEY WERE IN A PORTABLE TRAILER.
UM, AND WE HELPED DESIGN THEIR, THEIR INITIAL STATION WITH SOME PLANNED EXPANSION SPACE.
THE, UH, BOND COMMITTEE WAS EVALUATING NOW THAT EXPANSION FIVE YEARS LATER, THE GROWTH THEY'RE HAVING, THAT'S, THAT'S THE SITUATION THEY'RE IN.
WE CALLED THEM THE BITE SIZE AND THE BIG GULP, AND THEY DECIDED
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TO PICK THE MIDDLE ROAD.AND SO WE HAD TO MODIFY THOSE PLANS TO, UH, ACCOMMODATE THE BOND COMMITTEE'S SELECTION THERE.
AND WE KIND OF FOUND A MIDDLE ROAD BETWEEN THOSE TWO OPTIONS.
AND THEN, AND LAST QUESTION FOR ME IS, FROM, FROM YOUR EXPERIENCES, AND OBVIOUSLY SARAH POINTED OUT, UM, YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN PUBLIC WORKS.
DO YOU HAVE EXAMPLES JUST FOR US AS A COM AS A, AS A COUNCIL TO SEE, NOT PROSPER, BUT ANOTHER PROJECT WHERE YOU TOOK SOMEBODY ON AND IT HAPPENED TO BE AN EXISTING POLICE STATION AND YOU HAD LANDED WHERE IT WAS REFURBISHED OR REMODELED.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT YOU COULD SHOW THEN SECOND STEP WOULD BE LIKE THE SECOND BULLET POINT WHERE YOU COULD SAY, HEY, HERE'S AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT WAS IN CARROLLTON AND WE TOOK IT AND MADE IT A NEW POLICE STATION OUT OF IT.
ANYTHING OF THOSE EXAMPLES YOU COULD AS PDFS SHARE WITH US? UH, YOU KNOW, IN MY EXPERIENCE, WE HAVEN'T ENDED UP GOING THAT ROUTE.
THE, THE, UH, DOLLARS AND CENTS HAVEN'T PANNED OUT.
UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PAIN AND SUFFERING INVOLVED IN A, IN A RENOVATION, UM, THE DECISION HAS ALWAYS BEEN, HEY, IF WE WANNA LIVE WITH THIS FOR 20 YEARS, LET'S GO AHEAD AND AND GO NEW.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANY EXAMPLES TO SHARE.
AND THAT KIND OF ALLUDES TO THE POINT I WAS GETTING AT IS, SO THE REEF, THE, THE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING BUILDING MM-HMM
AND BUILDING IT TO WHAT STANDARDS WOULD BE 50 YEARS FROM NOW OR 40 YEARS FROM NOW, SEEMS PRACTICAL.
THE LAND'S THERE, LET'S JUST GO UP OR LET'S GO WIDER, LET'S GO WHATEVER.
BUT IN YOUR EXPERIENCES, YOU'VE NOT, YOU CAN'T SAY, I'VE GOT SIX CITIES, DAN, I'M GONNA SEND YOU PDFS TOMORROW WHERE YOU'VE DONE THAT.
SO OBVIOUSLY THE GOAL OF THIS PROCESS IS TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, OUR RESIDENTS THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT ALLOWS US AS A TOWN TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION POSSIBLE, RIGHT? AND TO ME WHAT THAT MEANS IS SOMETHING THAT'S FUNCTIONAL FOR OUR OFFICERS.
UM, BUT A PART OF THAT HAS TO ALSO BE COST.
SO WE'VE GOT THREE, UH, CHARGES ON THE TABLE, SO TO SPEAK, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST A COMPLETE REMODEL THAT'S PURCHASING AN, AN EXISTING BUILDING.
UM, AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, NEW CONSTRUCTION, UM, YOU KNOW, DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET ACCURATE COSTS ON ALL THREE OF THOSE? YES, SIR.
UM, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR, FOR A WHILE NOW, MYSELF, DON BERGER, UM, MY TEAM.
AND SO WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THE MARKET IS DOING RIGHT NOW.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE ALSO HAVE A CITY OWNERS REP COMING TO HELP WITH THAT.
SO, AND I'LL JUST JUMP IN HERE.
WE'VE ALSO ENGAGED A OR ABOUT, WE'LL SOON ENGAGE A, A SEPARATE COST ESTIMATOR JUST TO HAVE ANOTHER SET OF EYES ON THE NUMBERS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING TOGETHER.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE USED IN OTHER PLACES THAT WE'VE USED IN OTHER PLACES.
SO THEY'LL WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THEM AS THEY GO THROUGH THAT TO JUST BE ANOTHER SET OF EYES AND PROVIDED DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE SO THAT WE HAVE ACCURATE NUMBERS.
THE WORST CASE WOULD BE WE GET TO THE END OF THIS AND WE GET THE VOTERS APPROVE IT AND THEN WE, THE NUMBERS AREN'T RIGHT AS MUCH.
OKAY, OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.
RANDY FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY HAS GOT TO BE AT THE TOP OF THIS.
WE HAVE THE HIGH HIGHEST TAX RATE OF ANY SMALL TOWN AROUND.
WE'VE ABOUT MILKED THIS TURN FOR ALL WE CAN MILK IT FOR AT THIS POINT.
SO WE HAVE TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE IN THIS BUILDING.
I KNOW SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE OFFICERS FOR OUR DEPARTMENT AND FOR OUR CITIZENS IN THIS.
I SEE THIS AS A DAUNTING TASK TO PUT ON A GROUP OF, OF CITIZENS IN THREE TO FOUR MEETINGS TO COME UP WITH ALL OF THIS SCOPE.
I, I TRULY DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE DONE WHAT WE SHOULD.
I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE AN UNFAIR PROCESS FOR THESE PEOPLE GETTING TOSSED INTO THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS WHEN WE HAVEN'T NARROWED THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE WANT THEM TO LOOK AT.
WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET, WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE, WE JUST CAN'T SEND THIS TO PEOPLE IN, IN THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS AND SAY WE NEED TO SPEND A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
YOU KNOW, WE STARTED OUT AT 35 MILLION.
I'VE HEARD 75 MILLION, WE WERE GIVEN AN EXAMPLE OF 50 MILLION.
IS THERE A QUESTION, RANDY? YES SIR.
I THE QUESTION IS, WHY HAS THIS COUNCIL NOT COME UP WITH A BUDGET TO PRESENT THESE PEOPLE TO WHERE THEY CAN LOOK AT SOMETHING AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING TOURS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN HOUR AND A HALF MEETING AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TOURS IN THE MIDDLE OF THESE HOUR AND A HALF.
I THINK WE ARE GIVING THESE PEOPLE AN ABSOLUTE IMPOSSIBLE TASK WHEN WE HAVEN'T DONE THE DUE DILIGENCE WE'VE KNOWN AND NARROWED THE SCOPE TO GIVE 'EM.
OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT.
I WAS ON THE 2019 BOND COMMITTEE AND WE, UH, DID A BOND FOR LIKE $80 MILLION, $72 MILLION.
UM, AND A HOME MENAGERIE OF THINGS.
UH, NEVER DID A BOND COMMITTEE BEFORE.
WHO'S GONNA BE THE TOWN LEAD, THE TOWN FACILITATOR?
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I'M JUST CURIOUS WHO LIKELY WOULD BE LAST TIME WAS LISA PYLES.UH, SO SINCE IS JUST, SINCE IT'S JUST ONE PROJECT, THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN OTHER CITIES AND OTHER ONES WE'VE GONE THROUGH WHERE YOU HAVE SIX OR SEVEN DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
SO IT'S GONNA BE A COMBINATION.
IT'S GONNA BE STEVEN AND AND CHIEF AND ME AND WHOEVER AND, AND PASSIONATE.
IT WILL BE WHOEVER IS AT THE MEETING.
SO WE'LL HAVE A, A GROUP OF FOLKS AND IT'S GONNA, THEY'RE PROBABLY, WOULD THEY ELECT A CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE TO, TO HELP FACILITATE FROM THE COMMITTEE SIDE TOO? CORRECT.
UM, JUST WANTED TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS ON, ON WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IF IT'S A SIMILAR THING AND JUST, UH, UH, HELPS ME DIGEST WHETHER THIS IS A DOABLE TASK.
IF, WELL IF THEY DON'T COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND IT NEEDS TO BE LONGER, THEN WHAT DO WE DO? SO AS WE GO, AS IT'S AN INTER AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, IF WE NEED MORE MEETINGS, WE'LL WORK WITH THE CHAIR, WE'LL WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE TO HAVE MORE MEETINGS.
I WILL SAY, WHEN I AM, I, AT THE LAST PLACE IN MY LAST STOP, WE HAD A BOND OVER $200 MILLION WITH FIVE DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS AND WE HAD FOUR OR FIVE MEETINGS.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S NOT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT YEAH, JIMMY, I I DON'T WANT TO HALFWAY DO IT.
UM, EITHER RANDY AND, UH, I'M TRUSTING THAT THE EXPERTS HERE, UM, HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE AND IF THEY SAY IT'S DOABLE, IT IS.
AND IF WE CAN'T DO IT, THEN WE WILL NOT AGREE ON THAT AND IT WILL JUST HAVE TO BE A PUSHED TIMELINE TO THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE.
I'VE GOT A CON A QUESTION FOR DARREN.
SINCE YOU WERE ON THAT 2019 BOND ELECTION COMMITTEE, YOU SAID IT WAS MULTIPLE THINGS.
YOU WERE VOTING OR AGAIN, NOT VOTING, BUT UM, PROPOSING, YOU WERE DISCUSSING PRO THANK YOU PROPOSING MULTIPLE THINGS THAT, UH, THAT COMMITTEE WAS ABOUT THE SAME SIZE.
WAS IT 14 PEOPLE LARGER? IT WAS LIKE 28 PEOPLE.
IT WAS LARGER, LIKE 21 PEOPLE.
SO TO, TO YOUR POINT, RIGHT? SHOULD WE ADD MORE PEOPLE ONTO THIS COMMITTEE JUST TO GET MORE BRAINPOWER IN THE ROOM? 'CAUSE THE PEOPLE WE'VE ALL ELECTED ONTO THIS COMMITTEE, WE ALL KNOW, BUT THAT WAS FILED PROPOSITIONS, SO THAT WAS A LOT PIECE THAT WAS FI TO, TO THE POINT.
SO MY POINT IS THAT WAS FIVE OR SIX THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
ONE THING HERE WHERE I THINK THEY CAN 14 SHOULD BE FINE.
AND I THINK WE, WE, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO FINISH UP THIS ITEM.
BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION HERE.
UM, UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE, 'CAUSE WE'VE FORMED OUR BOND COMMITTEE.
SO, SO IS THERE IS THERE'S A MOTION OR A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
WELL, I WOULD ENTERTAIN MOTION.
I'D LOVE TO, I'D LOVE TO SEE ONE STREAM ON THAT.
UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
UH, ANY OTHER, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ALRIGHT, ITEM SIX D IS APPROVED.
[7. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.]
FINAL ITEM OF THE NIGHT IS THE ITEM SEVEN ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.IT'S THAT TIME FOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SHARE AN EXPRESSION OF THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE, ET CETERA.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE? MARLON MAYOR, I'VE GOT TWO ITEMS. UM, SO LAST WEEK WE HAD NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AND WE HAD A GREAT, GREAT SUCCESSFUL EVENT OVER AT LE LOCK PARK AND A HUGE TURNOUT.
AND EVERYBODY HAD A GREAT TIME AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WERE WORKING REAL HARD GREETING AND ANSWERING QUESTIONS AND SO THAT'S APPRECIATED.
UM, AND THE OTHER THING THAT, UH, OCCURRED WAS, UH, SATURDAY, UM, OR ACTUALLY THIS WHOLE WEEKEND, UM, WE HAD THE OU CLUB OF DALLAS THAT KIND OF TOOK OVER A FEW OF OUR HOTELS, UM, AND SET UP SHOP SET UP HOME IN ADDISON, WHICH WAS AWESOME.
UM, SO A LOT OF THEM OUT, UH, FRIDAY NIGHT, UH, HAVING A GREAT TIME AND, UM, SO I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT EVENT BEING HELD IN ADDISON.
UH, WE DON'T ORGANIZE IT, BUT IT IS ONE OF OUR, OUR TOP EVENTS WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE METRICS AND THE EFFECT AND ALL THE HOTEL ROOMS AND, AND, UH, ALL THE RESTAURANTS AND, UH, EVERYTHING THEY BRING TO THAT EVENT.
SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THOSE TWO EVENTS.
ANYBODY ELSE? I WOULD JUST, ANYBODY ELSE? NO.
WELL, UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT AND A THANK YOU TO, UH, CHIEF, UH, FREEZE AND, UH, OFFICER RYAN, UM, CLUSTER.
UM, IT CAME TO OUR ROTARY CLUB TODAY, ADDISON MIDDAY ROTARY AND, UH, RYAN GOT TO DO HIS PRESENTATION, UH, TO THE, UH, TO THE CLUB AND JUST KIND OF LET EVERYBODY GET, GET TO KNOW HIM AND IT WAS JUST A REALLY GREAT REINFORCEMENT OF THE, UH, COMMUNITY POLICING THAT I KNOW IS SO IMPORTANT TO THE CHIEF AND THE DEPARTMENT.
AND SO, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING OUT THERE CHIEF AND ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING SIR? ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, IT IS, UH, 10 O'CLOCK STRAIGHT UP AND WE ARE ADJOURNED FOR THE NIGHT.