Aug 26, 2025 Work Session and Regular Meeting

NUMBER TWO, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS TO A CITY, CITY MANAGER ANNOUNCEMENTS AND TWO B EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION.

[5. Open Meeting. In accordance with Texas Government Code Chapter 551, the Addison City Council will reconvene in an Open Meeting to consider action, if any, on the matters discussed in the Closed Meeting.]

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

IT IS EIGHT 15 AND WE ARE COMING IN OUT OF CLOSED SESSION INTO OPEN SESSION AND THERE IS NO ACTION FOR US TO TAKE FROM THE CLOSED SESSION.

SO WE'RE SWAPPING OUR AGENDA AROUND A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT.

WE'LL DO GOOD.

WE'LL DO THE WORK SESSION ITEMS AFTER OUR REGULAR MEETING BECAUSE WE'RE A LITTLE LATE RUNNING, STARTING OUR SEVEN O'CLOCK REGULAR MEETING.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, GET THAT DONE AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO OUR WORK SESSION.

SO WITH THAT, I HAVE AN AGENDA SOMEWHERE.

I, ALRIGHT.

YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO START WITH OUR PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS.

IF YOU PLEASE RISE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.

ONE INDIVISIBLE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE THIS EVENING AS WE HAD A LENGTHY CLOSED SESSION TONIGHT.

AND WE WILL MOVE RIGHT INTO ITEM

[a. City Manager's Announcements.]

DAVID GAINES.

THANKS MAYOR.

TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR TONIGHT.

ADDISON OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST FOR LABOR DAY.

IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE WHEN OFFICES ARE CLOSED, PLEASE CALL THE NON EMERGENCY PUBLIC SAFETY NUMBER AT 4 6 9 2 8 9 3 2 7 0.

TRASH AND RECYCLING WILL STILL BE COLLECTED ON OUR REGULAR SCHEDULE.

NEXT, JOIN US FOR A DART SILVER LINE COMMUNITY Q AND A SESSION WITH THE ADDISON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND DART POLICE DEPARTMENT ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3RD AT 6:00 PM AT JAVA AND HOPS IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.

IF YOU'D LIKE A MEAL, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO RSVP TO THE EVENT ON THE WEBSITE@ADDISONTX.GOV SLASH SILVERLINE PD.

THOSE ARE ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[b. Employee Recognition.]

WE'LL MOVE TO RECOGNITION.

I'LL ASK CHIEF JONES TO COME UP FOR OUR RECOGNITION.

DAVID JONES, FIRE CHIEF.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M PLEASED TO INTRODUCE MATT FERGUSON, WHO SERVES IN THE ADDISON FIRE DEPARTMENT AS CAPTAIN.

MATT STARTED WITH THE TOWN IN 2008.

HE WAS BORN AND RAISED IN WHITESBORO, TEXAS.

MATT GRADUATED FROM WHITESBORO HIGH SCHOOL BEFORE BEGINNING A CAREER DEDICATED TO FIRE SERVICE AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

HE ATTENDED GRAYSON COLLEGE FOR PARAMEDIC SCHOOL, COMPLETED HASCO FIRE ACADEMY FOR BASIC FIREFIGHTER AND WENT ON TO EARN A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN EMERGENCY SERVICES AND ADMINISTRATION AND MANAGEMENT FROM

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THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS.

HIS EDUCATION AND TRAINING ARE EXTENSIVE, INCLUDING THE TEXAS FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION, BATTALION CHIEF ACADEMY, FIRE CHIEF ACADEMY, AND RECEIVING ITS FIRE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER PROGRAM THROUGH TEAKS EMERGENCY SERVICES TRAINING INSTITUTE IN TEXAS A AND M MAY'S BUSINESS SCHOOL, ALONG WITH THE PRESTIGIOUS MANAGING OFFICER PROGRAM AT THE NATIONAL FIRE ACADEMY.

ADDITIONALLY HOLDS A MASTER FIRE CERTIFICATION BEYOND ADDISON.

MATT HAS VOLUNTEERED AND WORKED PART-TIME AT THE WHITESBORO FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR OVER 20 YEARS, CURRENTLY SERVING AS THE DEPARTMENT'S TRAINING OFFICER.

HE RECENTLY LED THE FIRST RECRUITING ACADEMY AS THE DEPARTMENT BEGINS TO TRANSITION TO A FULL-TIME PAID FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE PAST 16 YEARS.

HE'S ALSO SERVED AS A PART-TIME FIREFIGHTER FOR THE NORTH TEXAS REGIONAL AIRPORT FIRE DEPARTMENT IN GRAYSON COUNTY.

PROFESSIONALLY, HE IS ESPECIALLY PROUD OF COMPLETING HIS MANAGER MANAGING OFFICER PROGRAM AT THE NATIONAL FIRE ACADEMY.

PERSONALLY, A HIGHLIGHT HAS BEEN HUNTING A TROPHY CLASS RED STAG IN NEW ZEALAND LAST MARCH.

TRAVEL CONTINUES TO BE A PASSION FOR MATT AND MOST RECENTLY HE SPENT TWO WEEKS EXPLORING SWITZERLAND.

OUTSIDE OF WORK, HE ENJOYS CHEERING ON THE TEXAS RANGERS AND NOTRE DAME FOOTBALL, WHILE NOT MARRIED AND WITHOUT CHILDREN.

HE TREASURES TIME WITH HIS NIECE.

HE LOVES TO SPOIL.

TO MATT.

THE ADDISON WAY MEANS PROVIDING A CONSISTENT AND ELITE LEVEL OF SERVICE, A PRINCIPLE HE EMBODIES THROUGH HIS EXTENSIVE TRAINING, PROFESSIONAL ACCOMPLISHMENT AND COMMITMENT TO SAFETY.

SO PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING MATT.

THANK YOU CHIEF.

THANK YOU MATT FOR YOUR SERVICE TO ADDISON.

REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING

[c. National Payroll Week Recognition.]

ON TO ITEM TWO C, NATIONAL PAYROLL WEEK RECOGNITION.

AND I KNOW PAYROLL WEEK IS VERY IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF FOLKS AROUND HERE.

AND SO WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION TONIGHT ON FOR NA FOR NATIONAL PAYROLL WEEK, AND I'LL READ THAT TO YOU, UH, BE PROCLAIMED BY THE MARITIME OF ADDISON, WHEREAS PAYROLL PAYROLL ORG AND IT'S MORE THAN 20,000 MEMBERS HAVE LAUNCHED A NATIONWIDE PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN THAT PAYS TRIBUTE TO THE NEARLY 150 MILLION PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE UNITED STATES AND PAY AND THE PAYROLL PROFESSIONALS WHO SUPPORT THE AMERICAN SYSTEM BY PAYING WAGES, REPORTING WORKER EARNINGS, AND WITHHOLDING FEDERAL GO, UH, EMPLOYMENT TAXES.

AND WHEREAS PAYROLL PROFESSIONALS IN ADDISON, TEXAS PLAY A KEY ROLE IN MAINTAINING THE ECONOMIC HEALTH OF ADDISON, CARRYING OUT SUCH A DIVERSE TASKS, PAYING INTO THE UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE SYSTEMS, UH, PROVIDING INFORMATION FOR CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT AND CARRYING OUT TAX WITHHOLDING REPORTING AND DEPOSITING.

AND WHEREAS PAYROLL DEPARTMENTS COLLECTIVELY SPEND MORE THAN $2.4 TRILLION ANNUALLY COMPLYING WITH MYRIAD FEDERAL AND STATE WAGE AND TAX LAWS.

AND WHEREAS PAYROLL PROFESSIONALS PLAY AN INCREASINGLY IMPORTANT ROLE ENSURING THE ECONOMIC SECURITY OF AMERICAN FAMILIES BY HELPING NON-CUSTODIAL PARENTS COMPLY WITH THEIR CHILD SUPPORT MANDATES.

AND WHEREAS PAYROLL PROFESSIONALS HAVE BECOME INCREASINGLY PROACTIVE IN EDUCATING BOTH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC AT LARGE ABOUT THE PAYROLL TAX WITHHOLDING SYSTEMS. AND WHEREAS PAYROLL PROFESSIONALS MEET REGULARLY WITH FEDERAL AND STATE OFFICIALS TO DISCUSS BOTH IMPROVING, UH, COMPLIANCE WITH GOVERNMENT PROCEDURE AND HOW COMPLIANCE CAN BE ACHIEVED AT LESS COST TO BOTH GOVERNMENT AND BUSINESSES.

AND WHEREAS THE WEEK IN WHICH LABOR DAY FALLS HAS BEEN PROCLAIMED NATIONAL PAYROLL WEEK, I HEREBY GIVE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT TO THE EFFORTS OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN ADDISON, TEXAS AND OF THE PAYROLL PROFESSION BY PROCLAIMING THE FIRST FULL WEEK OF SEPTEMBER PAYROLL WEEK FOR ADDISON TEXAS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I BRUCE AVESON MAYOR, THE TOWN OF ADDISON ON BEHALF OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM AND RECOGNIZE SEPTEMBER 1ST THROUGH FIFTH, 2025 AS NATIONAL PAYROLL WEEK AND ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS OF ADDISON TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND APPLAUD THE EFFORTS OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN ADDISON, TEXAS AND OF THE PAYROLL PROFESSION.

AND I HAVE, UH, SOME FOLKS I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU, UH, THIS E THIS EVENING.

WE HAVE THE GOVERNMENT RELATIONS DIRECTOR OF THE PAYROLL ORG, DALLAS CHAPTER, ENDUR POPE POP.

DID I GET THAT RIGHT? AND THE FOLLOWING.

AND WE HAVE SOME COUPLE OF STAFF FOLKS.

WE HAVE, UH, ISMAIL ISH VETA.

YES.

AND UH, AND HE'S OUR ACCOUNTING MANAGER AND OUR ACCOUNTANT, SAN GAR, SAN OTHER.

SHE IS, YES.

SO WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE, ALL THEIR HARD WORK, AND I'LL ASK YOU TO COME FORWARD THE THREE OF YOU AND WE CAN, UH, TAKE A PHOTO WITH THE PROCLAMATION.

ITEM FOUR CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDES ITEM FOUR A THROUGH FOUR D.

YES.

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OKAY, VERY GOOD.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE IS THAT PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.

IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA OR NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES.

I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED, UH, IN ADVANCE.

IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION AND MOVE ON TO

[4. Consent Agenda. All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]

IS THERE A MOTION? MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE FOUR A THROUGH D.

I'LL SECOND.

THANK YOU MARLON AND THE SECOND ONE FROM CHRIS.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.

ALRIGHT, ITEM

[a. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution declaring support for each member of the Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART) to have a member on the DART Board of Directors entitled to a weighted vote; and providing for an effective date.]

FIVE A.

WE HAVE PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION DECLARING SUPPORT FOR EACH MEMBER OF THE DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT.

DART TO HAVE A MEMBER ON THE DART BOARD OF DIRECTORS ENTITLED TO AWAITED VOTE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

IS THIS YOU, DAVID? YES, IT IS.

I'LL TAKE THIS ONE.

AND I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT I WILL GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT INTO WHAT THIS ACTION IS.

UM, AS YOU ALL ARE ALL AWARE, THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS REGARDING DART OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS OR MORE.

UM, AND MANY OF THEM INVOLVING THE GOVERNANCE OF DART.

WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS FROM THE CITY MANAGERS, FROM THE MAYORS AND CITY MANAGERS TOGETHER REGARDING WHAT THE OPTIONS COULD BE MOVING FORWARD.

A NUMBER OF OPTIONS HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AND CONTEMPLATED OVER THE PAST YEAR.

NONE OF THEM HAVE COME, HAVE REALLY HAD HEADWAY HAVE MOVED FORWARD, AND ULTIMATELY IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE LEGISLATIVE ACTION FOR THERE TO BE A CHANGE.

SO AT OUR LAST MEETING JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE TRIED TO SAY WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT IT, WELL, NOT, MAYBE NOT ALL DART CITIES AGREE ON THE MAJORITY OF DART CITIES AGREE ON.

AND THE ONE THAT ADDISON WAS MOST, UH, CONCERNED WITH, AND THE ONE THAT WE PUT FORWARD, UH, IMMEDIATELY WAS THE DESIRE TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD THAT REPRESENTED DART THAT REPRESENTED THE TOWN OF ADDISON.

AS ARE MANY OF THE SEATS ON DART, OUR SEAT IS SHARED, IS SHARED WITH RICHARDSON UNIVERSITY PARK AND HIGHLAND PARK.

SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ULTIMATE RESOLUTION WILL BE AND WE, WE PURPOSEFULLY WANNA LEAVE THAT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

BUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO, AND A NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES WILL BE DOING SOON, IS AT LEAST PUT OUR STAMP ON WHAT WE, AT LEAST ONE FACTOR WE WANT TO HAVE.

AND THAT'S A REPRESENTATIVE THAT REPRESENTS ADDISON.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT OUR SALES TAX CONTRIBUTIONS AND OUR POPULATION DON'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE PERSON THAT WE PUT FORWARD WILL HAVE THE SAME WEIGHT AS A BIGGER CITY, BUT WE BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE A PERSON AND THE DISCUSSIONS EVOLVING WHAT THAT WEIGHTED PERCENTAGE COULD BE ARE UP FOR DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE.

BUT THIS GIVES US A CHANCE AS THE TOWN TO SAY, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WHATEVER THE SOLUTION IS, AS IT GOES TO AUSTIN, HERE'S OUR STANCE AS WE AS, AS THOSE DISCUSSIONS GO ON.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE GENESIS OF BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

CERTAINLY HAPPEN.

HAPPY FOR DISCUSSION OR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

UH, THE MAYOR WAS OBVIOUSLY IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL, SO I'LL, UM, ALLOW YOU ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY.

SURE, YEAH, THAT WAS, IT WAS A GOOD MEETING.

WE HAD, IT WAS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, I GUESS, UH, DOWN AT, UH, DART HEADQUARTERS.

UH, THE MEMBER CITY, UH, CITY MANAGERS AND MAYORS, UH, WERE THERE.

IT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION.

AND, AND, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, NOTHING'S GONNA BE, YOU CAN'T GET EVERYTHING DONE AT ONE TIME, BUT IF WE CAN MAKE PROGRESS AND THE GOVERNANCE PART OF THE DART BOARD HAS BEEN AN ISSUE AND A CONCERN FOR A LOT OF US, AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION HERE AS TO WHY DON'T WE HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE AND WE, WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FIRST STEP ANYWAY.

AND SO IT WAS GOOD DISCUSSION AT A BROAD AGREEMENT THAT THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO GO.

AND THE, UH, AND THE RESOLUTION THAT WE'RE SEEING, I, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE SAME ONE THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE THAT WAS, UH, PUT TOGETHER.

SO IT'S, SO THERE'S A, THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME UNITY BEHIND, UH, THIS, THIS, UH, THIS, UH, THIS DOCUMENT HERE.

SO, UM, SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD RESOLUTION.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY? I, UM, I'LL HAVE, I'VE GOT A COMMENT.

SO I, INITIALLY I SAW THIS AND I, I THOUGHT, WELL, WE'D BE SUCH A LOW, UM, WEIGHTED, UH, VOTE.

UH, I WOULDN'T, I WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF IT, SO I WAS TALK, TALKING OVER WITH DAVID ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE, AND I, I THINK IT, IT DOES MAKE A LOT OF SENSE FOR US TO HAVE OUR OWN VOTE, EVEN IF IT IS LOW, LOW WEIGHTED, IT DOES ALLOW US TO SPEAK SEPARATELY FROM THE OTHER TWO CITIES THAT WE'D BE LUMPED IN WITH.

SO I THINK, I THINK IT'S A GOOD MOVE.

IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.

MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHER DISCUSSION THAT COMES UP THAT WOULD MAKE ME THINK OTHERWISE, BUT, UM, I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS.

DONE IN HISTORICALLY JUST BASED ON POPULATION, BUT ADDISON'S MUCH MORE THAN POPULATION.

AND THE, UH, AND THE, AS FAR AS THE WEIGHTING OF THE VOTE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED TO DO WHAT THAT WEIGHTING LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S BEEN

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SO MAYBE IT'S SOME OTHER FORMULA THAT, THAT WE COME UP WITH.

UH, BUT THAT'S AGAIN, TO BE, TO BE DETERMINED DOWN THE ROAD WHAT THAT WAITING LOOKS LIKE.

AND THAT SEGUES INTO MY THOUGHT.

I LIKE, I LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING A VOICE, HAVING ONE PERSON THAT'S, THAT'S A VOICE.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, AND AND I, MY SUPPORT THE CONCEPT OF THIS, BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS, WAS LEADING TO WHAT, WHAT WOULD OUR, OUR VOTING WAITING BE IF IT WERE BY POPULATION? DO WE KNOW THAT? UH, VERY LOW, VERY LOW.

IF IT WAS BASED ON POPULATION, WELL, WE, WE WOULD SUPPORT IT BEING BASED ON SALES TAX, YOU KNOW, THAT TELLS TAXES HOW DART GENERATES THE REVENUE.

AND I THINK IT ALSO INDICATES THE AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY DART HAS IN AN AREA.

SO I DON'T THINK, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING I BELIEVE COUNCIL PROBABLY WOULD AGREE ON, THAT SALES TAX WOULD BE A BETTER METRIC AND SOMETHING WE WOULD SUPPORT AS WE GO FORWARD.

THIS RESOLUTION PURPOSEFULLY DOES NOT IDENTIFY THAT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET CONSENSUS AMONGST THE GROUP.

AND SO THAT CAN BE HASHED OUT LATER.

WELL, YEAH.

AND YOU, YOU, YOU WENT WHERE I WAS WANTING TO GO WITH IT AND, AND I EVEN, UH, WENT FURTHER THAN THAT THINKING.

UM, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET SOME NEW CITIES, UM, I'VE GOTTA BELIEVE IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE SOME CITIES UP NORTH WE'LL JOIN IN.

UM, SO WHEN, AS WE PROCEED AFTER, AFTER WE VOTE ON THIS, I'D HOPE WE MIGHT EVEN CONSIDER BASED ON TOTAL FUNDING, IF THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, SUBSTANTIAL SOMETHING AS FAR AS OUR, OUR VOTING, UH, PERCENTAGE THAT WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH.

SO THAT, THAT WAS THE THOUGHT I WANTED TO SHARE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

YEAH, THOSE ARE ALL GOOD DISCUSSIONS TO HAVE.

AND, AND, AND YEAH, WHETHER IT'S SALES TAX ONLY OR, AND I HAVEN'T DONE THE MATH, BUT MAYBE SALES TAX AS A PROPORTION OR SOME FRACTION OF, YOU KNOW, RELATIVE TO OUR POPULATION, BECAUSE I THINK OUR SALES TAX RELATIVE POPULATION THAT MIGHT BE FAVORABLE TO US.

SO, SO I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN LOOK AT IT, I'M SURE.

OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? ANYTHING BRANDY? WELL, YOU KNOW, I DO SURPRISE, SURPRISE STRAP IN.

I'VE GOT A LOT.

NO, AND I'LL, I'LL KEEP IT VERY BRIEF.

NEED A REPRESENTATION THERE.

WHAT I WILL SAY IS, THIS IS 40 YEARS IN MAKING IT'S 40 YEARS OVERDUE.

I THANK DAVID, I THANK MAYOR FOR, FOR GOING AND REPRESENTING US ON THIS.

MY, MY HOPE AND DESIRE IS THAT WE GET SOMEONE ON THAT BOARD THAT IS TRULY AN ADDISON ADVOCATE THAT WILL REALLY WORK FOR US AND, AND PRESENT THINGS IN, UH, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AND, AND THE PRIVILEGE TO, UH, TOUR OUR DISPATCH CENTER.

WHAT'S THE ACRONYM FOR THAT? INTECH.

INTECH.

THEY HAVE THE ABSOLUTE PERFECT MODEL FOR A SITUATION LIKE THIS.

THERE'S NO BIG BROTHERS, THERE'S NO LITTLE BROTHERS.

EVERYBODY IS EQUAL AT THE TABLE.

AND THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE TOURS I'VE EVER TAKEN AS FAR AS THE WAY EVERYONE WORKS WITH ONE ANOTHER.

SO GOING FORWARD, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A TOPIC THAT IS TOP OF MY LIST, AND I AM PLEASED THAT WE ARE FINALLY GETTING THE CONVERSATION GOING.

UM, HAVE THE OTHER CITIES ALSO TAKEN THIS STEP FOR A RESOLUTION, OR IS THAT COMING, OR WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE STATUS? UH, I KNOW A NUMBER OF CITIES HAVE CONTEMPLATED IT.

UM, I BELIEVE RICHARDSON WILL DO SOMETHING.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHEN I THINK I, THE, THE INDICATION WE HAD WAS THAT MANY CITIES WILL, WILL DO THEM, POSSIBLY MANY CITIES.

I CAN'T, I I CAN'T SAY THAT EVERY SINGLE CITY WILL, BUT I THINK MANY CITIES WILL, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT AT LEAST AS WE SIT AROUND THE TABLE, THE MAJORITY OF CI CERTAINLY THE MAJORITY OF CITIES SUPPORTED.

SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE SEE OTHER CITIES ADOPT THE RESOLUTION.

WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.

AND I, I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDISON TO BE A LEADER IN THIS.

AND I, I, I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS, GAINING SOME LEGS AND, AND HAVING SOME LIFE.

AND I APPLAUD THAT EFFORT.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, RANDY.

ANY OTHERS? RANDY HOWARD? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I THINK WE'VE, UH, NEEDED THIS FOR A WHILE AND, UM, EACH CITY SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN REPRESENTATIVE.

AND IF WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE THAT WE CONTACTED THAT WAS JUST DEALING WITH ADDISON, WE'D HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT PERSON'S ATTENTION.

AND IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH DART, THEN I THINK WE WOULD, UH, HAVE A MUCH LOUDER VOICE AND BE HEARD, AND, UH, DART WOULD PROBABLY PAY ATTENTION.

WE HAVE THE TRANSIT CENTER, WE HAVE THE SILVER LINE COMING, WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON IN ADDISON.

BESIDES, WE'RE SMALL AND WE DON'T HAVE A BIG POPULATION, BUT WE DO RAISE A LOT MORE MONEY THAN, THAN OUR POPULATION, UH, USES AS A SERVICES, AND WE JUST

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SO I THINK THIS IS WAY OVERDUE.

THANK YOU FOR DOING IT.

I AGREE.

THANK YOU, HOWARD.

SMALL BUT MUDDY.

RIGHT? SMALL, BUT YEAH.

ANY, UH, OTHERS? CAN WE MOTION? I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION.

OH, PLEASE.

UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, ADOPT THE, UH, THE ITEM.

WHICH, WHICH ONE IS IT? UH, ITEM FIVE B FIVE BI SECOND IT.

MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE B, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AND THE TOWN OF ADDISON FOR JAIL SERVICES.

FIVE A, FIVE A FOR DART REPRESENTATIVE.

THE SECOND.

SECOND FROM DAN.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

ITEM FIVE A IS APPROVED.

[b. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving an Interlocal Agreement between the City of Richardson and the Town of Addison for jail services, and authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement. ]

AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT.

CHIEF, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CHRIS FREEZE, CHIEF OF POLICE.

UM, TODAY I'LL BE SPEAKING ABOUT THE PROPOSED ILA THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.

UM, JUST AS A QUICK REFERENCE, WE BROUGHT THIS ITEM DURING A JUNE 3RD WORK SESSION FOR DISCUSSION.

AND OUT OF THAT WORK SESSION, WE WENT BACK AND, UM, CAME UP WITH THIS AGREEMENT WITH RICHARDSON, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL SPEAK ABOUT TONIGHT.

SO JUST TO GO BACK ON A LITTLE BACKGROUND, UM, FOR OUR, UH, WHAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH.

IN DECEMBER OF 2021, CARROLLTON INFORMED THE TOWN OF ADDISON.

THEY WOULD NO LONGER PROVIDE JAIL SERVICES.

IN JUNE OF 2022, THE TOWN OF ADDISON NEGOTIATED WITH FARMERS BRANCH TO CONTRACT FOR JAIL SERVICES.

HOWEVER, THOSE TALKS DID NOT YIELD AN AGREEMENT, AND THAT TIME GRAPEVINE BECAME A VIABLE OPTION.

OCTOBER, 2022, THE TOWN ENTERED IN, ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT, UH, UTILIZED GRAPEVINE PD AS THEIR JAIL PROVIDER.

JUNE, 2024, UM, STAFF BEGAN LOOKING AT, UM, DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES TO PROVIDE JAIL SERVICES.

UH, MAINLY GIVEN THE LOGISTICAL, LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES AROUND DISTANCE AND TIME WITH OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT.

UH, LIKE I SAID, DURING THAT JUNE 3RD WORK SESSION, STAFF PRESENTED INFORMATION AND COUNSEL, UM, OUTLINING THE CURRENT CHALLENGES WITH GRAPEVINE, AND WE RECOMMENDED AN AGREEMENT FOR JAIL SERVICES WITH THE CITY OF RICHARDSON BASED UPON THEIR PROXIMITY TO THE TOWN, THEIR EXPERIENCE PROVIDING JAIL SERVICES AND ANTICIPATED STABILITY AS A LONG-TERM PARTNER FOR THE TOWN.

AND THEN A COPY OF THAT JUNE 3RD PRESENTATION WAS ALSO PROVIDED TO YOU.

SO THE PROPOSED CONTRACT, UM, WOULD GO INTO EFFECT OCTOBER ONE, UM, AND THE CONTRACT TERM IS FOR AN INITIAL FIVE YEARS WITH AN AUTOMATIC FIVE YEAR RENEWAL.

AFTER THAT, THE CONTRACT COSTS FOR YEARS ONE THROUGH THREE ARE FIXED AT 500,000 FOR YEAR ONE, 550,000 FOR YEAR TWO, 600,000 FOR YEAR THREE, UM, YEARS FOUR AND FIVE.

THERE'S NO INCREASE FROM THAT YEAR THREE COST UNLESS THE NUMBER OF ARREST BOOKINGS EXCEEDS 1,460 PER YEAR.

UM, JUST FOR REFERENCE, WE HAVE NOT EXCEEDED THAT NUMBER OF COMING ANYWHERE CLOSE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING JUST OVER A THOUSAND ARRESTS PER YEAR.

SO STAFF DOES NOT ANTICIPATE COMING ANYWHERE NEAR, UM, THAT 1,460, UM, TOTAL ARRESTS PER YEAR.

SO NEXT STEPS, UH, WE DO RECOMMEND EXECUTING THE AGREEMENT TONIGHT, UM, FOR JAIL SERVICES BASED UPON OPERATIONAL FACTORS FOR TIME AND DISTANCE, THEIR EXPERIENCE IN A LONG-TERM PARTNERSHIP.

UH, THE PROPOSED CONTRACT FOR YEAR ONE HAS ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED FOR THE FY 26 FISCAL YEAR.

AND IF APPROVED TONIGHT BY THE COUNCIL, WE WOULD TAKE EFFECT OCTOBER 1ST.

UM, AND THEN ALSO JUST AS A NOTE, UM, RICHARDSON STAFF ALREADY TOOK THIS BEFORE THEIR COUNCIL AND THEIR CITY MANAGEMENT AND THEY'VE GOT THE APPROVAL ON THEIR END.

UM, I SHOULD HAVE THAT SIGNED AGREEMENT FROM THE RICHARDSON CHIEF TOMORROW.

SO IF THAT HELPS THE DECISION, OTHER THAN THAT, BE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS.

CHIEF QUESTIONS.

YOU, YOU ANSWERED ON MY QUESTIONS IF RICHARDSON'S ALREADY AGREED? YES, SIR.

UM, IT'S A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT.

UM, IF FOR ANY REASON WE DON'T LIKE THE SERVICE WE'RE GETTING, WE'VE GOTTA BREAK IT IN YEAR THREE.

ARE THERE ANY PENALTIES? CAN WE GET OUT OF IT AT ANY TIME? NO, SIR.

WE JUST HAVE TO GIVE NOTICE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, AND YOU FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT IN RICHARDSON AND YOU THINK THIS IS MUCH BETTER THAN GRAPEVINE? YES, SIR.

YES, SIR.

AND I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR, GRAPEVINE HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE PARTNER.

WITH THIS, I, UM, JUST LOGISTICALLY IT, IT'S NOT A LONG TERM SOLUTION.

WELL I APPRECIATE IT.

CHIEF ALBERT, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING I WAS GONNA, I WAS GONNA ASK IF WE COULD GET OUT OF IT IF WE'RE NOT HAPPY, OR DO WE HAVE TO WAIT THE FIVE YEARS? NO, SIR.

SO YOU'VE ANSWERED IT, SIR.

NO, SIR.

WE, WE CAN GET OUT OF IT AND WE COULDN'T FIND ANYWHERE FURTHER TO TAKE THESE CRIMINALS FURTHER FROM ADAM.

WE KEEP, WE KEEP LOOKING.

AND MAR DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING AND YEAH, IF WE WERE TO GIVE NOTICE, COULD WE DO THAT ANYTIME OR WOULD THAT AFTER YEAR THREE? OH, WE CAN GIVE NOTICE ANYTIME.

ANYTIME.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

IN THE WORK SESSION THAT YOU GUYS DID ALL THE LEGWORK FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT.

ANY OTHERS? IS THERE A MOTION? MAYOR, I'D MAKE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

THANK YOU, MARLON.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION, HAVE SOME DAN FOR A SECOND DISCUSSION.

I, I'M SO HAPPY THAT THIS IS COMING THROUGH.

I DROVE FROM RICHARDSON TODAY AND IT'S SO MUCH BETTER GOING STRAIGHT DOWN BELT BELTLINE, THEN OVER TO GRAPEVINE.

SO I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THIS.

WE DID A LOT OF OF REVIEW

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SO I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU DARREN, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ONE QUICK QUESTION IF I MAY PLEASE.

SURE.

DO WE HAVE, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OR DO WE HAVE ANY WAY OF A HYBRID TYPE SYSTEM TO WHERE WE ONLY GO TO RICHARDSON OR TAKE TRANSPORT ONCE A DAY MAYBE? OR ARE THEY GONNA BE GOING TO RICHARDSON FROM THE SCENE OF EVERY ARREST? FROM THE SCENE OF EVERY ARREST? YES, SIR.

SO THERE, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO WAY OF, OF COMING AND HAVING KIND OF A HYBRID SYSTEM TO WHERE THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE IF YOU MAKE MULTIPLE ARRESTS, HOLD AT FIVE, THREE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON, WE TRANSPORT AND NO, BECAUSE A LOT OF KEEP OUR PEOPLE CLOSER.

A LOT OF TIMES, UH, THERE'S A, A TIME CLOCK FOR AN ARREST IF THEY NEED TO BE ARRAIGNED BY MAGISTRATE, THEY ONLY HAVE SO MANY HOURS, SO WE WOULDN'T HOLD 'EM WITHIN TOWN.

PLUS WE WANT THAT OFFICER TO BE AVAILABLE.

SO ON SCENE STRAIGHT TO THE JAIL, I AM SO HAPPY AND PROUD FOR OUR OFFICERS THAT THEY ARE NOT IN THE TRAFFIC GOING TO GRAPEVINE AND WE'RE GETTING OFFICERS BACK ON OUR STREET AND, AND PROTECTING OUR CITIZENS MUCH FASTER.

THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THIS.

YES SIR.

ALRIGHT, MOTION A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, ITEM.

ITEM FIVE C IS BEING POSTPONED UNTIL I BELIEVE THE SEPTEMBER 9TH MEETING.

FIVE B IS APPROVED.

ALRIGHT,

[c. *POSTPONED* Present, discuss, and consider action on the approval of Change Order #2 to the professional services agreement with Kimley-Horn and Associates, Inc. for additional design services for the Montfort Drive Reconstruction Project in an amount not to exceed $814,500, increasing the total contract amount to $1,901,500.]

AND SO WE'LL NOT BE DOING FIVE C.

SO NOW WE'LL HAVE OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS. BUT

[6. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.]

BEFORE WE DO THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO ITEM SIX SO WE CAN CLOSE OUT THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING, THE ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.

THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS ON THE COUNCIL TO, UH, SHOW EXPRESSION OF THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE, ET CETERA.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE? I HAVE SOMETHING SURPRISE, UH, THAT, THAT I DO.

BUT, UH, TODAY, UH, AT OUR ROTARY CLUB, THE ADDISON MIDDAY ROTARY CLUB, WE TOOK A FIELD TRIP TO THE AIRPORT AND, UH, WE HAD, IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO HAVE A MEETING IN THAT BIG BOARDROOM UP THERE.

A GREAT VIEW OF THE RUNWAY.

IT'S VERY DISTRACTING TO SOME OF US.

SO, BUT, BUT SUCH A GREAT PLACE IN OUR, IN OUR NEW AIRPORT DIRECTOR JAMIE AZA GAVE A, AN AMAZING PRESENTATION TO OUR ROTARY CLUB.

WE HAD A GOOD TURNOUT, PROBABLY 20 SOMETHING PEOPLE SHOWED UP FOR IT.

SO A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT.

AND FOR A GUY THAT'S BEEN AT THE AIRPORT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, 12 OR 14 DAYS, I FORGET, UH, HE, HE DID THE WHOLE PRESENTATION WITHOUT ANY NOTES.

IT'S, IT'S LIKE HE'S BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME ALREADY.

HE IS JUST, JUST ALREADY, IT FITS RIGHT IN AND PART OF THE, PART OF THE FAMILY.

AND SO, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT JAMIE.

AND, AND THANK YOU FOR THE TEAM THAT, UH, THAT CHOSE JAMIE TO COME HERE AND, AND SERVE OUR, OUR AIRPORT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHERS ON ITEM SIX, WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE? DAN WAS GONNA PRESS HIS ROAD.

YEAH, I JUST, UH, DROVE BY, CAME HOME LAST NIGHT AND SAW THE PROGRESS ON LE LOCK'S POND AND THE LIGHTS ARE ON THE, THE FOUNTAINS WERE RUNNING, SO I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE GATES COME DOWN.

NICE.

LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, JENNA.

IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD GETTING THERE, HASN'T IT? YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ALRIGHT, WELL WITH THAT THEN WE'LL CLOSE ITEM NUMBER SIX AND

[a. Present and discuss an update regarding the Fiscal Year 2026 Proposed Budget.]

WE WILL MOVE INTO BACK INTO OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS, OUR WORK SESSION.

FIRST ITEM, ITEM SIX A ON THE WORK SESSION.

PRESENT AND DISCUSS AN UPDATE REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 PROPOSED BUDGET.

THAT'LL BE STEVEN.

SO WE RECEIVED A NOTICE THAT WE HAD RECEIVED A GRANT AWARD FOR THE LICENSE PLATE READER CAMERAS, UH, ABOUT THE TIME WE WERE MEETING AT OUR LAST MEETING.

UM, BASED ON THAT, UH, HAMID RECOMMENDED THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY DROP THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S CONTRIBUTION TO OUR IT REPLACEMENT FUND.

THAT'S A GENERAL FUND, UH, EXPENDITURE THAT GOES OVER TO THAT IT REPLACEMENT FUND.

AND IF WE DID THAT, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE TAX RATE A LITTLE BIT FROM, UH, WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS, 6 0 9 8 2 2 DOWN TO SIX OH 0.81.

SO A SLIGHT REDUCTION IN THE, IN THE PROPERTY TAX RATE, UH, IS WHAT, UH, WE WOULD PROPOSE IF COUNCIL WISHES.

UM, SO HERE'S JUST A CHART OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

UM, SO THE GENERAL FUND OVERALL WOULD GO DOWN, UH, FROM, FROM 40.3621 DOWN TO 40.1899.

UH, IT'S A, A DECREASE OF, UH, JUST UNDER ABOUT 0.2 OF 1 CENT.

UM, AND THEN OVERALL, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT, UH, THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, IF COUNCIL DID MAKE THAT, THAT CHANGE WOULD INCLUDE ALMOST, UH, ABOUT EIGHT TENTHS OF 1 CENT REDUCTION

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IN THE GENERAL FUND PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TAX RATE.

AND OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT, WE'VE REDUCED THE GENERAL FUND PROPERTY TAX RATE PORTION BY ABOUT 1.70 CENTS, UM, OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.

SO OVERALL, THE ONLY CHANGES TO THE GENERAL FUND AND THE TOTAL, SO GOING DOWN TO 60.81 CENTS, IF COUNSEL WOULD WISH TO DO THAT ON THE REVENUE SIDE, REFLECTED IN THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.

SO YOU CAN SEE YEAR OVER YEAR, NOT A BIG INCREASE OVERALL IN THE GENERAL FUND.

UM, OVERALL.

SO THIS REDUCED BY A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, NO CHANGE WITH THIS, WHICH IS, UH, IN YOUR PROPOSED BUDGET.

THE CHANGE IS ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, A $100,000 REDUCTION, UH, IN THAT, UH, WHICH COMES DOWN TO OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES, UH, 52,347,000, AND THAT LEAVES US, UH, $145 OF REVENUE OVER EXPENDITURES.

UH, A LITTLE OVER 21 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE OR ABOUT 40.2%, UH, OF FUND BALANCE AND RESERVE.

SO THIS IS OUR LONG-TERM PLAN.

IT REALLY DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING WITH THE WAY THIS, THIS LOOKS, UH, BECAUSE WE ESSENTIALLY HAD A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN REVENUE WE TOOK OFF AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN EXPENDITURES.

BUT IT DOES SHOW YOU OVER THE LONG TERM THAT, UH, WE ARE STILL, UH, IN A POSITIVE AND STABLE POSITION OVER, OVER THE 10 YEAR, UH, LOOK FORWARD PERIOD.

AND THEN REALLY THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAD.

UM, IF THERE ARE OTHER CHANGES OR ANYTHING ELSE COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS, UM, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME, UH, SEPTEMBER 2ND, NEXT TUESDAY WE'LL HAVE OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE.

UH, THEN SEPTEMBER 9TH WE'LL HAVE THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE.

AND THEN AT THAT, UH, MEETING AS WELL, YOU'LL BE ASKED TO APPROVE THE BUDGET TAX RATES, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND ALL THE ORDINANCES THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.

AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANKS STEVEN.

THOSE QUESTIONS REAL QUICK? SURE.

DO WE HAVE, UH, I I, GOING BACK TO THE BREAKDOWN ON TAXES, DO WE HAVE IT RIGHT HERE? UH, NO.

AS FAR WHERE WE GET OUR TAX REVENUES FROM, DO DO WE HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN THIS ONE TO WHERE WE CAN TELL HOW MUCH WE'RE GETTING FROM RESTAURANTS, HOW MUCH WE'RE GETTING FROM THE ALCOHOL SALES.

IS IS, IS IT FURTHER BROKEN DOWN OTHER THAN JUST NON-PRO PROPERTY TAXES, EDWARD OR TAXES? CAN WE TELL HOW MUCH WE'RE GETTING FROM OUR RESTAURANTS? AND W SPECIFICALLY IN THAT NUMBER? WE, WE DON'T LIST THAT BROKEN OUT LIKE THAT WE DO IN YOUR PROPOSED BUDGET, THERE IS A LINE FOR OVERALL SALES TAX AND THEN THERE'S A LINE FOR MIXED BEVERAGE TAXES, RIGHT? SO THAT MIXED BEVERAGE TAX AMOUNT IS ALL FROM RESTAURANTS, BASICALLY.

UH, THE SALES TAX THOUGH, WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE LESS THAN 20% OF THAT OVERALL SALES TAX BUCKET, WHICH IS, UH, 17.1 OF THAT 18.4.

ABOUT 20% OF THAT IS COMING FROM RESTAURANTS.

BUT THAT WOULD COVER ALL SALES TAX, RIGHT? THAT COVERS ALL SALES TAXES.

BUT SO WE DON'T, DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS THAT WE GET JUST FROM RESTAURANTS TO WHERE WE ? I DO.

AND THAT'S IN THE QUARTERLY REPORT.

THAT'S LATER.

UH, I HAVE THAT ITEM LATER.

SO IT'S A QUARTERLY VIEW OF WHERE ALL OF OUR SALES TAX COMES FROM.

SO WE GET THAT IN ARREAR.

SO WHAT THIS IS DOING IS JUST PROJECTING OVERALL SALES TAX.

THE DATA THAT WE'RE GETTING IS, UH, IS NOT GONNA BE FUTURE DATA OBVIOUSLY.

IT'S ACTUALLY THE DATA THAT WE'RE PRESENTING LATER TONIGHT FOR OUR QUARTERLY REPORT IS FROM THE PREVIOUS QUARTER.

SO IT DOES TAKE THE STATE A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO GET US THAT DETAILED INFORMATION OF CATEGORIES AND THAT KIND OF DETAIL.

WHAT WE GET WHEN THEY ACTUALLY PAY US IS JUST, THIS IS BASICALLY THE AMOUNT OF CURRENT COLLECTIONS, PRIOR COLLECTIONS, AUDIT COLLECTIONS.

AND THIS IS WHAT YOUR TOTAL AMOUNT THAT YOU GET IS, IS IT SOMEWHERE CAN I, WHERE WHERE WOULD I FIND LIKE THE LAST TWO YEARS OF THE QUARTERLIES TO WHERE WE CAN GO OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS? MM-HMM .

AS TO WHAT THOSE RESTAURANT SALES, WHERE THE PEAKS, WHERE THE, DOES IT, DOES IT BREAK IT DOWN WHERE THERE'S A PEAK IN WHAT MONTHS AND THE VALLEYS IN WHAT MONTHS OR NOT? NOT SPECIFICALLY BY MONTH.

WE HAVE A PIE CHART THAT WE SHOW IN, UH, THE QUARTERLY REPORTS.

THEY'RE ALL ON OUR WEBPAGE ON THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WEBPAGE OF THE TOWN'S WEBSITE.

SO I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE.

YOU COULD GO LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A PIE CHART IN THERE THAT BREAKS DOWN.

I THINK WE HAVE AROUND EIGHT CATEGORIES.

UM, RESTAURANT, WHOLESALE, RETAIL TRADE, UM, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

UM, SO THAT'S IN EACH OF OUR QUARTERLY REPORTS AND I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY OVER A DECADE OF QUARTERLY REPORTS OUT THERE.

SO WE'D BE ABLE TO TELL SOMEWHAT HOW SOME OF THE FESTIVALS ARE DRIVING SALES AT RESTAURANTS OR IF THEY'RE STILL FLAT OR IS IT JUST A QUARTERLY REPORT, NOTHING BROKEN DOWN BY MONTH OR IT'S

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A QUARTERLY REPORT.

WE GET SOME MONTHLY DATA, UM, BUT WE DON'T REALLY BREAK IT DOWN BY I GOT SECTOR.

BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE QUARTERLY REPORTS THERE ARE THAT ARE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ON, ON THE WEBSITE.

YES, SIR.

OTHERS? I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, YOU SAID, UM, ISSUES WITH THE BUDGET.

SO THESE HAVE COME UP BEFORE AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE CAN REMOVE THEM FROM THE BUDGET OR WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

THE, UH, RENOVATIONS OF THE BATHROOMS AT ADDIS ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB, THE TWO OUTDOOR BATHROOMS. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR JENNA, BUT UM, I THINK WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE FENCE.

WE'VE SPENT 50 SOMETHING THOUSAND ON DESIGN AND THE PLAN WAS TO GO FORWARD WITH RENOVATING THE BATHROOMS. I THINK THE PRICE IS ABSURD, PERSONALLY, 150,000 FOR THOSE BATHROOMS, IF THAT'S WHAT'S LEFT.

IS, IS THAT CORRECT? IT IS.

AND THAT'S AN ITEM THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE PRIOR YEAR'S BUDGET, THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET.

BUT IF THERE'S A MAJORITY OF COUNSEL THAT WOULD WISH TO REMOVE THAT AND DO SOMETHING ELSE OVERALL TO YOUR COURT, THIS IS, WE WOULD MUCH RATHER YOU TALK ABOUT IT NOW AND, AND COME GIVE US SOME DIRECTION NOW THAN NEXT WEEK OR CERTAINLY ON THE NINTH.

THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP.

YEAH, BRING IT UP.

IF THERE'S FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF THERE'S FOUR AT THE DIOCESE THAT GIVE US DIRECTION TO TAKE IT OUTTA THE BUDGET, WE'LL TAKE IT OUTTA THE BUDGET.

SO PERSONALLY I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT IT.

UM, THERE ARE TWO BATHROOMS. THEY'RE OUTSIDE BATHROOMS. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THEM ARE USING THE POOL FROM PROBABLY JUNE THROUGH, UH, AUGUST.

THREE MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR WE CHARGED $10 FOR LIFE TO BE ABLE TO USE THE POOL.

UM, JANICE SAID A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THOSE BATHROOMS, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE COMPLAINING ABOUT THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST OUTDOOR BATHROOMS. UH, WE HAVE A DA COMPLIANT BATHROOMS INSIDE THE BUILDING.

THERE'S A DOOR TO GO RIGHT INTO THE BUILDING.

THE BATHROOMS ARE RIGHT THERE.

WE COULD PUT SOME KIND OF A MAT TO MAKE IT NOT BE WET ON THE FLOOR.

SO NO ONE SLIPS AND SLIDES.

IF WE HAVE A DA RESIDENTS THAT NEED AN A DA BATHROOM, THOSE, THOSE WOULD BE COMPLIANT.

THESE TWO BATHROOMS, I DON'T BELIEVE NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP TO A DA IF WE DON'T SPEND MORE THAN 50,000 ON THEM.

WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE MONEY IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

UH, I THINK DAVID SAID WE WERE GONNA TILE THE BATHROOMS. I I THINK WE COULD PAINT THE WALLS, THEY'D BE FINE.

REPLACING A TOILET OR A SINK IS NOT THAT EXPENSIVE.

I JUST THINK TO SPEND 54,000 ON DESIGN FOR THOSE TWO BATHROOMS AND THEN SPEND 150 TO UPDATE THEM IS A WASTE OF MONEY.

MY OPINION, I HOPE SOMEBODY AGREES WITH ME THAT THAT'S ONE I WOULD LIKE TO E EITHER ELIMINATE OR REDUCE THE AMOUNT THAT WE APPROVE TO SPEND ON IT.

SO WHAT'S THE POLICY, HOWARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS OR IS THAT THE ONLY ONE? WELL, I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT TASTE OF ADD TASTE, ADDISON.

I THINK THAT NEEDS ATTENTION.

AND UM, UH, THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE, UM, NO, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.

THERE WERE THREE I'LL THINK OF IT, BUT CAN WE JUST DISCUSS THOSE TWO AND SEE IF I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT FEELS THAT WAY? I WOULD, I WOULD JUST SAY YOU CAN DISCUSS WHATEVER YOU WANT.

TASTE ADDISON, WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT THE PAST TWO WORK SESSIONS WE'VE GOTTEN DIRECTION.

IF COUNCIL WANTS TO CHANGE THEIR MIND, THEY'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO CERTAINLY ON THE FIRST ONE.

I THINK EITHER ONE OF THEM, IF THERE'S FOUR THAT TELL US TO TAKE IT OUTTA THE BUDGET, WE CERTAINLY WILL.

YEAH, WE, WE WENT DOWN A LONG PATH TALKING ABOUT TASTE ADDISON IN THE LAST COUPLE MEETINGS AND WE DID NOT HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, A, A CONSENSUS THAT WANTED TO MAKE A CHANGE IN THIS BUDGET.

SO, UH, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN GOING DOWN THAT PATH AGAIN TO, TO BEAT THE SAME HORSE.

WELL, I, I GAVE DAVID SOME PAPERS ABOUT ANOTHER IDEA, SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT IDEA IS FOR, WOULD BE FOR THIS NEXT YEAR OR IS THAT FOR FUTURE YEARS AND THE CURRENT, UH, PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR IS GO AHEAD.

WITH THE PROGRAM THAT WE APPROVE, WELL GAVE DIRECTION, I GUESS TO LOSE 465,000.

IS THAT WHERE IT STANDS RIGHT NOW? YES.

AND SO, SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR HAS THAT ALREADY DECIDED FOR THIS BUDGET? WELL, WE GO AHEAD.

COUNCIL'S HAD TWO DISCUSSIONS AND IS GIVEN DIRECTION.

IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND AT THE TONIGHT, WE CAN GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, BUT SO FAR THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'VE BEEN GIVEN FROM COUNSEL.

A GREAT IDEA AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL GIVE IT, UH, DO CONSIDERATION AT OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING AND, AND SEE WHERE IT, SEE IF WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT IT AND WHERE IT FITS WHAT FUND AND, AND ALL THOSE DETAILS.

WELL I'D LIKE TO SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE AGREES WITH ME ABOUT IT.

I'VE NOT CHANGED MY MIND.

YEAH, WE WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT ALL THAT, UH, TASTE ADDISON AND, AND WE MADE A DECISION.

I KNOW IT, IT, IT, IT'S NOT THE DECISION YOU LIKE, BUT WE'RE JUST GONNA MAKE DECISIONS AND SOME OF WHICH YOU'RE GONNA LIKE AND SOME OF WHICH YOU WON'T AND THIS IS JUST ONE YOU WON'T.

UM, BUT, BUT, AND YOU HAD ANOTHER IDEA WHICH IS TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM TASTE ADDISON AND I, AND IT SOUNDED LIKE

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BUT, UM, IT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'VE, WE'VE EXHAUSTED QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON, ON THE TASTE ADDISON AND, AND GOT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSENSUS.

IT WASN'T, I DON'T THINK IT WAS PERFECT FOR ANY OF US.

WE MET IN THE MIDDLE.

UM, BUT I, I WOULD HATE TO EXHAUST MORE TIME, UM, ON ITEMS OVER AND OVER AND OVER, UM, WHEN, WHEN THE GROUP HAS SHARED ALL THEIR THOUGHTS AND MADE A DECISION.

YEAH, WE HAD PLENTY, WE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO GO, GO OVER IT AND I, I DON'T SEE A NEED TO REHASH.

MARLON, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING OR, OR WAS NOBODY.

I I I KNOW DAVID, YOU AND I SAT AND TALKED, I KNOW IN THE, IN THE, IN THE WORK SESSION WE DISCUSSED REVENUE GENERATING IDEAS AND I WAS SORT OF SPECIFIC ABOUT TRYING TO GET THOSE IN FOR 2026 BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY WERE PRACTICAL.

SO I GUESS IS THERE, IS THERE A CONSIDERATION ON THOSE THOUGHTS THAT I HAD HAD ABOUT REVENUE GENERATING TO TRY AND CUT INTO THE LOSSES OR IS IT OFF THE TABLE AND IT'S A CONVERSATION FOR 27? NO, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE IN THE BUDGET.

UM, THE OUTDOOR BATHROOMS IS LUDICROUS.

I, I AGREE WITH HOWARD.

UM, ON THAT ISSUE, UH, IF, IF WE SEE A TAX REDUCTION OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FUND REDUCTION HERE, UH, REDUCING THAT WOULD GIVE WOULD, WOULD BE A PRIME OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN REDUCE THE TAX RATE EVEN FARTHER ON THAT THEY ARE OUTDOOR BATHROOMS THAT ARE USED A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF TIME.

UH, WE NEED THE STANDARD OF AN OUTDOOR BATHROOM.

WE DON'T NEED THE STANDARD OF A TAJ MAHAL AT A SWIMMING POOL BATHROOM.

THE OTHERS, I COMMENT ON THE BATHROOM, SO, UM, I'M KIND OF NEUTRAL ON THE BATHROOMS. UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED, UM, FELLOW COUNCIL PEOPLE IS WHAT ELSE ARE YOU GONNA APPLY A LOWER STANDARD TO? BECAUSE THE DIRECTION THAT THE STAFF IS, IS BRINGING FORTH IS A PRECEDENT THAT WE'VE DIRECTION THAT WE'VE GIVEN STAFF TO DO TO LEVELS OF, UH, QUALITY.

UM, IT'S NICER THAN OTHER BATHROOMS AND IT'S NOT AS NICE AS, YOU KNOW, UH, FINE COUNTRY CLUB BATHROOMS, BUT THE LEVEL WE'VE GIVEN THEM IS A LEVEL OF QUALITY.

SO THESE WOULD BE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SET THE DIRECTION ON.

'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA BE WIG WAGGING THE STAFF WITH PRIOR DIRECTION THAT YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN THEM.

'CAUSE THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COU THE, THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL.

UM, IF WE WANT TO CHOOSE TO DELAY THIS, WE CAN SAVE THE MONEY FOR THIS YEAR AND, AND RED DELAY IT AND SEE IF WE WANNA RECALIBRATE OUR LEVEL OF QUALITY IN THE WHOLE TOWN.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T PICK AND CHOOSE SO MUCH.

UH, BUT AGAIN, I'M, I'M 50 50 ON THIS, I'M NOT GONNA DIE ON THIS SWORD.

NOT A BIG DEAL.

GOOD PLACE TO SAVE SOME MONEY IF WE WANNA DO THAT.

UM, BUT WE, WE DO NEED TO GET AHEAD OF THIS.

YOU CAN'T SET POLICY AND THEN CHANGE YOUR MIND, YOU KNOW? UH, BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS OFFER YOUR OPINION.

YOU GOTTA DO THAT AND VOTE YOUR MIND, RIGHT? AND SOMETIMES WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE MAJORITY, SOMETIMES WE'RE NOT.

SO THAT'S WHY I STAND IS, IS WHAT LEVEL OF QUALITY DO WE WANT TO GO WITH? WHAT SERVICES DO WE WANT TO FOREGO IF WE'RE GONNA START CUTTING, UM, BEYOND .

THANK YOU DARREN.

OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, SURE, GO AHEAD.

I HAD MY TURN.

I'LL WAIT UNTIL MUTE.

OH, TOOK, THANKS RANDY.

SO YEAH, I THINK IF WE GO BACK TO JUST CALLING IT LIPSTICK ON A PIG, IT'S NOT, IT'S, I THINK IT WAS A LOT MORE TO, I THINK WE HAD STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS INVOLVED.

IF I'M, I'M MISTAKEN AND MAYBE JENNY, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

BUT IT WAS NOT JUST COSMETICS.

AND IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT PUTTING PAINT ON THE WALLS.

I THINK IT WAS UP, IT WAS UP IN THE CEILINGS BASICALLY.

STRUCTURALLY.

SYSTEM, IT IS SUSPENDED OVER THE CEILING.

IF YOU CAN ELABORATE ON THAT MAYBE TO HELP US ALL UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE I AM IN THAT, I JUST USED THOSE BATHROOMS LAST WEEK WITH MY GRANDSON AND I FIND 'EM PRACTICALLY PERFECT TO BE USED.

I UNDERSTAND THE STANDARDS THAT DARREN'S TALKING ABOUT BY, BY UPGRADING, BUT I'M SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE.

I, I CAN HONESTLY UNDERSTAND, UNLESS YOU'RE TELLING ME WE STRUCTURALLY HAVE A PROBLEM UP IN THE CEILING WITH THE VENTILATION AND THE PLUMBING AND THE ELECTRICAL, I'D LIKE YOU TO EXPLAIN THAT BECAUSE I COULD EASILY SEE, JUST LIKE HOWARD SAID, PUT A FEW NEW TOILETS IN AND CALL IT A DAY WITH SOME PAINT.

SURE.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JANET TIDWELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE DO HA WE DID ENGAGE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TUTOR ADDRESS TWO ITEMS. ONE WAS THE ADDITION OF A VENTILATION SYSTEM THAT WAS UP IN THE ROOF.

THE UM, AIR IN THAT FACILITY DOESN'T TURN OVER VERY WELL.

UM, BECAUSE THERE WASN'T AN AIR CHANGE OUT

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AND SO THERE WAS SOME INVOLVEMENT OF A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER THERE.

AND THEN WE, UM, HAVE ADDED IN A DOOR SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY'RE OPEN DOOR RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE SEEING TWO PROBLEMS. UM, HOPEFULLY WE HAVE PREVENTED, UM, THE BREAK-INS THAT WERE HAPPENING TO THE OUTDOOR POOL WITH THE FENCE WORK THAT WE DID.

BUT SOME OF THE, UM, VANDALISM THAT WAS OCCURRING WAS TO THE RESTROOM.

SO WE HAVE PROVIDED A DOOR THAT ATTACHES TO THE WALLS THE CMU BLOCK, THAT'S A STRUCTURAL ELEMENT TO THE POOL.

UM, AND SO WE ENGAGED A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IN THAT ASPECT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONNECTING EVERYTHING IN A SAFE MANNER.

THE DOORS WERE ALSO, UM, PROPOSED IN THE DESIGN, UM, TO ALSO KIND OF PREVENT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING WHERE SOME OF OUR KIDS IN THE AREA WOULD KIND OF TURN THE CORNER AND RUN INTO THE RESTROOM REAL QUICKLY.

AND SO IT'S KIND OF TO SLOW THAT PROCESS DOWN.

NOW THE PLANS DO CALL OUT FOR PUTTING A RESILIENT COATING ON THE FLOOR, UM, WHICH IS JUST A COATING WITH SOME TEXTURE IN IT TO HELP PREVENT THOSE SLIP INCIDENTS THAT WE WERE HAVING FROM THAT HAPPENING.

UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO SHARE, JUST TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL, HEARING EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID AT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETINGS.

WE ACTUALLY SAT DOWN WITH THE ARCHITECT AND WE ASKED THEM TO PULL EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE PLANS.

THAT IS A NICE TO HAVE VERSUS A NEED TO HAVE INTO AN ALTERNATE BID ITEM.

UM, AND EVERYTHING THAT IS A NEED TO HAVE, SUCH AS REPLACING THE TOILETS AND THE PARTITIONS AND THE SINKS, UM, AND ADDING THE ADDITIONAL OR IMPROVING THE LIGHTING AND THE AIRFLOW.

THOSE WERE NEED TO HAVE, UM, IN OUR OPINION.

AND SO WE'VE CREATED A SET OF PLANS THAT ARE READY TO GO OUT TO BID THAT NOW HAS A BASE BID PROJECT OF WHAT WE VIEW AS THE NECESSITIES THAT WE NEED IF WE'RE GONNA RENOVATE THE BATHROOM.

AND THEN WE WILL HAVE ALTERNATE BID ITEMS THAT COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER, UM, ONCE WE HAVE BIDS ON 'EM.

AND THAT DOES INCLUDE SOME OF THE TILING, A LITTLE MORE DECORATIVE WALL AT THE DOORS WHEN YOU COME IN, SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE, A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERHANG OVER THE OUTSIDE THAT THE SIGNAGE SUPPORTS ON.

UM, AND SO WE PULLED ALL OF THOSE ITEMS OUT OF THE PLANS AND MADE THEM ALTERNATE BID ITEMS. I HOPE THAT'S HELPFUL.

SO IT COULD BE IN THE BUDGET AND WE MAY NOT SPEND THAT MONEY IF WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THE ALTERNATE PLAN.

THE HEART OF THAT PROJECT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND IT KEEPS RE RISING.

SO HOWARD, I'LL SAY THAT I AGREE WITH YOU ON TASE ADDISON, RIGHT? AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS TO DEATH, BUT I'LL, I'LL, I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT I AGREE WITH YOU.

I ALSO THOUGHT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BRAINSTORMING AND TRY TO MAYBE FIND SOMETHING ELSE THAT MIGHT BE MORE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE TO ME IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PARTIALLY THE LOSS THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN THE EVENT, BUT ALSO I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN AWAY FROM OUR INTENDED PURPOSE.

WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT HIGHLIGHTING THE RESTAURANTS AND THE HOTELS, I THINK THE WAY THAT WE USED TO.

IT'S NOT AS EFFECTIVE AS IT USED TO BE.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU THERE AND I HOPE THAT AT SOME POINT THIS COUNCIL CAN GET TOGETHER AND BRAINSTORM AND TRY TO FIND, UH, SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE MORE EFFECTIVE.

THE BATHROOMS, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN THOSE BATHROOMS. I KNOW THEY NEED TO BE REHABBED.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'M ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE NEW BUDGET LOOKS LIKE, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE KNEW THAT WAS COMING.

THAT WAS PART OF THE, UM, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

SO THAT WAS, UM, EXCESS FUNDS WE HAD FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.

SO, UM, WE CAN TAKE ON THAT PROJECT WITH CASH AND EVEN IF WE DIDN'T DO THE PROJECT, IT WOULD NOT CHANGE THE, UM, TAX RATE WHATSOEVER.

THANK YOU CHRIS.

ALRIGHT, A LITTLE BIT MORE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE.

THE, UM, TO THE, TO THE POINT OF LOWERING OUR STANDARDS, IT IS NOT LOWERING OUR STANDARDS TO SPEND MONEY WISELY AND COMMON SENSE SPENDING ON AN, ON AN APPROPRIATE FACILITY FOR THE APPROPRIATE PLACE.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE HAVE CONCRETE FLOORS OR HAIGHT BLOCK HOLD WALLS INSIDE OF A STRUCTURE THAT PEOPLE USE WEARING STREET CLOTHES.

THIS IS AN OUTDOOR BATHROOM THAT WE USE THREE MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR.

IT IS NOT LOWERING OUR STANDARDS TO MAKE AN APPROPRIATE OUTDOOR BATHROOM AND TO SPEND THE TAXPAYER MONEY WISELY ON THAT.

YOU ASK ABOUT ANOTHER, AND I'LL LEAVE THAT AT THAT FOR, FOR ANYBODY COMMON SENSE, SPENDING ON THAT WOULD BE FAR MORE APPROPRIATE.

THE OTHER THING THAT'S IN THE BUDGET THAT, THAT I WOULD LOVE TO DISCUSS NOW IF YOU'RE WANTING TO BRING OTHER THINGS UP IS THIS QUORUM DRIVE BIKE ROUTE.

STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE, THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AWAY WITH.

WE KEEP, I THOUGHT WE HAD A A A A DAGGER STUCK IN

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SO I GUESS I NEED TO FIND A WOODEN STAKE TO STICK IN THE HEART OF THIS MONSTER.

BUT WE, WE CANNOT AFFORD TO TEAR THESE STREETS UP AND DO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE A DEFICIT TO OUR BUSINESSES OVER A LONG CONSTRUCTION PERIOD FOR SOMETHING THAT IS USELESS AS BIKE ROUTE BIKE LANES.

IT IS MORE THAN SHEROS.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST RIGHT.

PUTTING STRIPES ON THE STREET TO GIVE 'EM A LITTLE SPACE TO RIDE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEMOLITION RECONSTRUCTION AND GIVING A BICYCLE THE EXACT SAME ROOM AND EFFORT THAT WE GIVE OUR AUTOMOBILES.

EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD IS NEEDING MORE STREETS AND WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE LANES AWAY.

IT, IT'S A CRAZY IDEA THAT NEEDS TO STAKE A WOODEN STAKE IN ITS HEART.

OTHER COMMENTS THAT, THAT WAS ACTUALLY MY THIRD ONE AND I WANTED TO JUST SUGGEST SOMETHING AND SEE IF THIS GETS ANY TEETH.

AND IT'S NOT THAT I JUST WANNA MOVE EVERYTHING TO ADDISON ROAD, I PROMISE THAT'S NOT IT.

BUT I THINK QUORUM DRIVE IS SO BUSY WITH PEDESTRIANS, CARS, BUSINESSES, PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOGS.

WE'VE HAD THE BUSES, THE BUSES ARE LEAVING AND IT FEELS LIKE THEY'RE BEING REPLACED WITH BICYCLES.

AND THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF PUSHBACK NOW I'M HEARING FROM THE CIRCLE, THERE'S A PETITION GOING AROUND.

THERE'S BUSINESSES THAT ARE UNHAPPY ABOUT IT.

BUSINESSES EVEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

ONE IN PARTICULAR IS GLAZER WHOLESALE LIQUOR WHO THOUGHT I WAS NUTS WHEN I SAID WE'RE TAKING OUT TWO LANES AND REPLACING IT WITH BIKE LANES.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF THE SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE OF ADDISON ROAD IF THAT WERE COMPLETE FROM WEST GROVE ALL THE WAY TO THE, UM, COTTON BELT.

AND THAT COULD BE BIKE LANES, DEDICATED BIKE LANES TO CONNECT WEST GROVE TO THE COTTON BELT.

PEOPLE WOULDN'T HAVE TO RIDE THEIR BIKES ALL THE WAY DOWN WEST GROVE TO GET TO QUORUM.

JUST TO COME DOWN QUORUM AND THEN GO BACK ON THE COTTON BELT.

I KNOW IT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE.

UM, I DON'T WANNA LOSE THE FUNDING THAT THAT COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS IS OFFERING US.

I KNOW THAT'S DRIVING THIS, THIS WHOLE ISSUE, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE REALLY UPSET ABOUT IT AND WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM 'EM.

WE JUST HAVEN'T HEARD YET, BUT IT'S COMING.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO SEE, AND, AND ONE OF THE REASONS I'D LIKE TO CUT BACK ON SOME EXPENSES IS MAYBE DIRECT THOSE FUNDS IF THE BIKE LANES ARE SO IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT REALLY ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.

I CARE ABOUT THOSE RESIDENTS.

I CARE ABOUT CONNECTING THE, THE CITIES.

I'M NOT JUST, 'CAUSE I DON'T RIDE A BIKE DOESN'T MEAN I WANNA DO AWAY WITH BIKE LANES.

I JUST WANNA PUT, PUT THEM WHERE I THINK THEY MAKE THE MOST SENSE.

I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY LANES OUT OF ADDISON ROAD.

I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY LANES OUTTA QUORUM DRIVE, BUT IF WE COULD GET A PROPOSAL TOGETHER FOR WHAT WOULD IT COST TO PUT IT ALONG ADDISON ROAD AND IF WE'VE GOT $6 MILLION FROM COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, MAYBE IT'LL COST 3 MILLION INSTEAD OF 1.5, BUT MAYBE WE COULD FIND THAT MONEY BY NOT DOING SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE MAYBE NOT AS I IMPORTANT OR AS NECESSARY.

SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.

IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T WANT THE BIKE LANES, BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THE BIKE LANES, BY AND LARGE ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT.

SO I HEARD ABOUT IT ON THURSDAY NIGHT WHEN THERE WAS A, A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THERE AND THERE'S A PETITION GOING AROUND.

SO, I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S COMING, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD MAYBE DISCUSS TONIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY FEELINGS ABOUT MOVING THE BIKE LANES TO ADDISON ROAD AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING THEM ON QUORA? I COULD SUPPORT THAT.

WHAT I CAN'T SUPPORT AND, AND MY DISAGREEMENT WITH YOU WOULD BE, I DON'T CARE THAT WE LOSE THAT FUNDING BY COG.

THIS PROJECT TEARING UP STREETS ON QUORUM DRIVE ABSOLUTELY FALLS IN THE CATEGORY OF, I DON'T WANT IT IF IT'S FREE BECAUSE TEARING UP STREET LANES AND PEOPLE ARE NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING EITHER THAT, THAT BIG CIRCLE UP THERE, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT TEARING THAT UP AND REDOING THAT.

THE DEMOLITION OF ANY LANES I AM ADAMANTLY PROPOSED TO.

IF YOU WANNA PUT A WIDE SIDEWALK DOWN ADDISON ROAD TO LET 'EM DO THAT, I CAN DISCUSS THAT.

WELL, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THE BI THE BIKE LANES

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ARE USELESS.

IT'S PART OF A MAJOR REGIONAL PROJECT.

UM, IT'S WHAT, NINE AND A HALF MILLION AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE FUNDING A MILLION AND A HALF AND WE'RE FUNDING THAT.

TELL ME HOW WE'RE FUNDING THAT WITH CASH AS WELL.

THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, I LOOK AT IT AS AN ECONOMIC DRIVER.

I LOOK AT AS ANOTHER WAY WE CAN INVITE FOLKS INTO OUR TOWN TO USE OUR RESTAURANTS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, COME INTO THE TOWN AND EAT NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

UM, IT'S AN EASIER WAY TO GET TO THE DART RAIL.

WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE OFF THE ROADS, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, EVERY CITY AROUND US IS GONNA BE A PART OF THIS AND THEY'RE GONNA BUILD THIS TRAIL SYSTEM OUT.

I THINK IT'D BE PRETTY EMBARRASSING IF WE DON'T DO IT.

WE HAD A WHOLE ROOM OF FOLKS THAT WERE OPPOSED TO THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND I DIDN'T SEE ONE THAT LEFT UNHAPPY.

MAYBE I MISSED THAT.

I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM ANYONE WHO DOESN'T WANT THESE BIKE, THESE BIKE LANES.

UM, I THINK WE COMPROMISED WITH THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS AND, AND WE DECIDED NOT TO TEAR UP THE ROADS AND THAT WE WERE JUST GOING TO, UM, AS YOU GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE BUSINESS AREAS, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT IT OUT IN THE ROAD.

OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, JUST TWO QUESTIONS FOR DAVID IF I COULD.

UM, SO ON QUORUM, AREN'T WE GONNA GET, UH, THE NEXT STEP? AREN'T WE GONNA GET LIKE A DESIGN, UM, COMING BACK TO COUNCIL TO THE REVIEW? YEP.

THE DESIGN CONTRACT SHOULD COME IN THE NEXT PROBABLY THREE MEETINGS FOR THAT PROJECT.

AND SO IF WE WERE GONNA DISCUSS STUFF LIKE THIS, WOULD THAT BE A GOOD TIME TO DISCUSS IT AT THAT, AT THAT MEETING? WELL, YOU KNOW, WE DISCUSSED IT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WHERE WE GOT DIRECTION MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN CONTRACT.

UM, YEAH, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY YOU COULD NOT SUPPORT THE DESIGN CONTRACT.

UM, I IF, IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA SUPPORT IT, WE'D RATHER KNOW NOW SO WE DON'T WASTE OUR TIME.

BUT YEAH, I GET IT.

IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM.

IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE'VE, WE'VE JUST GRABBED SOMETHING AND, AND SAID, HEY, IT'S, UM, WE'RE GONNA INCLUDE IT IN THE DISCUSSION.

IT'S AN ITEM IN THE BUDGET.

SO, I MEAN, I JUST, I, WE SHOULDN'T BE DISCUSSING THINGS THAT AREN'T ON THE AGENDA.

I MEAN, I'M NOT THIS PART OF THE BUDGET, THIS ITEM'S ON THE AGENDA WHETHER WE DO BIKE LANES OR NOT.

IT'S PART OF THE, IT'S PART OF THE BUDGET.

BUT, BUT IT'S, BUT IT'S ALSO PART OF THE BUDGET THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AT LENGTHS.

NO, AGAIN, AND I, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT AT SOME POINT WE DO, AND I KNOW YOU'RE ON VACATION AND, AND YOU MISSED THAT, BUT, AND WE WOULD'VE LOVED TO ADD YOU THERE, BUT I, I, I DON'T SUPPORT IT.

NOT ON QUORUM.

AND YOU DON'T SUPPORT WHAT? HAVING, HAVING THE BIKE LANES THAT WERE APPROVED AT, AT THAT MEETING MM-HMM .

UM, BUT I DO ACCEPT THE VOTE WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT.

AND I COMMENT, I CAN TELL YOU I WAS AT THE MEETING MYSELF AND STAYED LATE.

AND YES, THERE IS A PETITION COMING THAT IT WAS HIGHLY CONCERNING BECAUSE, AND MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT THAT THE WORD, SHE WAS SOMETHING THAT HOWARD AND I DISCUSSED THAT MY ASSUMPTION WAS WE WERE COMING ACROSS WEST GROVE, COMING DOWN ADDISON ROAD, COMING DOWN QUORUM WITH CHERYL LANES, AND THAT WE WERE NOT GONNA BE TEARING UP SIDEWALKS AND STREETS UNTIL THE SOUTH SIDE OF BELTLINE, WHICH WOULD BE THE QUORUM PROJECT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BELTLINE.

SO MY, MY, MY GUT IS RIGHT NOW IT'S, MY, MY ATTITUDE HAS CHANGED, NOT ABOUT CONNECTIVITY.

I SOLD I ALL IN FOR CONNECTIVITY, ALL IN FOR CYCLISTS, BUT WITH THE USE OF CHERYL LANES, REGARDLESS OF THE FUNDING WE GET FROM THE STATE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I STAND.

I'M SORRY, CAN YOU BE MORE CLEAR? YOU'RE AGAINST THE USE OF CHERYL LANES? NO.

FOR IT, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HAVING TO TEAR OUT LANES.

WHICH SECTION? WHAT SECTION OF ROAD ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? EVERY PART LEADING INTO THE ADDISON CIRCLE TALKING.

SO BELT LINE TO THE CIRCLE NORTH? YES.

IF YOU'RE TALKING BELT LINE NORTH ALL THE WAY UP CORAL.

SO BELTS WELL TO KILLER SPRINGS.

BELT LINE TO THE CIRCLE IS A DIFFERENT PROJECT.

IT'S NOT THE BIKE LANE PROJECT.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE RECONSTRUCTION PRO PROJECT.

AND IT HAS AN OFF LANE, OFF-ROAD BIKE LANE THAT DOES NOT TAKE AWAY ANY LANES.

SO ARE YOU THAT'S NOT THE BIKE LANE PROJECT.

SO THEN I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT AND THAT'S MY APOLOGIES.

I THINK, I THINK A LOT OF, AND UNDERSTANDABLY, I THINK I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH WHOEVER YOU HEARD FROM, BECAUSE I THINK THERE MAY BE YEAH, AND I SAW THE PETITION, I SAW THAT PETITION.

IT'S, THERE'S AT LEAST A HUNDRED.

SOMETIMES THOSE, THOSE THINGS GET PUT TOGETHER AND A BUZZ GETS CREATED OVER IT, OVER INFORMATION IS NOT ACCURATE.

PROBABLY 140, 150 SIGNATURES AT THAT, AT THAT NIGHT'S MEETING ON THURSDAY.

SO IT'S DEFINITELY A CONCERN TO THE RESIDENTS.

SURE.

THAT I THINK THE TOWN STAFF NEEDS TO LOOK FURTHER INTO.

DO WE KNOW IF IT'S BEEN SHARED WITH THE TOWN? IT HAS NOT YET.

'CAUSE THERE WAS STILL COLLECTING.

WELL, THEY NEED, AT SOME POINT THEY NEED TO TURN IT IN BEFORE THE PROJECT'S DONE.

SO, AND

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I MEAN, IF YOU WEREN'T EXACTLY CLEAR ON WHAT THEY WERE, MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE'S KNEE, HOWEVER, MAYBE YOU, YOU SAW THE, I DIDN'T PHYSICALLY, I THINK SEE IT.

I CAN CLEAR UP.

I JUST SAW IT UNDER THEIR ARM AND I SAW HOW THICK IT WAS.

I CAN CLEAR UP WHAT DAN'S TALKING ABOUT.

UH, FROM WEST GROVE TO ADDISON, I MEAN TO AIRPORT THE PLAN IS TO TAKE OUT TWO LANES, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

AND DAN SAID HE THOUGHT IT WAS SHE LANES FROM WEST GROVE ALL THE WAY TO THE CIRCLE.

AND I TOLD HIM, NO IT'S NOT BECAUSE FROM WEST GROVE TO AIRPORT, THEY'RE TAKING CORN FROM FOUR LANES DOWN TO TWO, THEN IT'S CHERYL LANES AND THEN AROUND THE CIRCLE PLANNING TO TAKE OUT ONE LANE AND THEN TAKE OUT SIDEWALKS FROM THE CIRCLE OVER TO THE COTTON BELT.

AND DAN SAID HE THOUGHT IT WAS CHERYL LANES ALL THE WAY DOWN AND THAT HE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS HAPPENING ON THAT SIDE OF QUORUM ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BECAUSE I THOUGHT QUORUM WAS GOING FROM FOUR LANES TO TWO ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

IS THAT RIGHT? BETWEEN THE TOLLWAY AND BELT LINE? BETWEEN THE TALL WAY AND BELT LINE IN CERTAIN SECTIONS, IT IS BETWEEN BELT LINE AND THE CIRCLE.

IT IS NOT NO.

BETWEEN BELT LINE AND THE CIRCLE, JUST THE SIDEWALKS COMING OUT OR THE, IT'LL BE ANOTHER SIDEWALK.

THIS PARALLEL PARKING AND SIDEWALK.

BUT WE'RE KEEPING FOUR LANES ON QUORUM.

BUT WHEN YOU PASS THE CIRCLE, IT'S CHERYL DOWN TO, UH, AIRPORT.

AIRPORT PARKWAY.

AND THEN IT GOES FROM FOUR LANES TO TWO LANES TO WEST GROVE.

AND SO WHEN I SAID THAT TO DAN, HE SAID HE THOUGHT IT WAS CHERYL ALL THE WAY.

AND I SAID AT THAT MEETING, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH CHERYL ALL THE WAY.

AND Y'ALL TOLD US WE WOULD LOSE OUR FUNDING IF WE DID THAT.

THAT WOULD BE A VERY CHEAP PROJECT.

THAT WOULD JUST BE PAINTING SOME BIKE LANES ON A ROAD.

WELL, IS THE, OKAY, YOU, UH, CHRIS SAID 9.1, 9.5 MILLION.

I THOUGHT IT WAS 7.5 AND IT'S 6 MILLION GRANT AND A MILLION AND A HALF FROM THE TOWN WAS 7.5.

I GUESS THE OTHER PART IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN.

SO I, I THOUGHT PART OF THAT MONEY IS PAYING FOR THE SIDE SIDE SOUTH OF BELTLINE IS THAT NOT NONE OF IT'S GOING TO THAT SIDE.

IT'S ONLY GOING NORTH OF BELTLINE ALL THE MONEY.

SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

THE BIKE LANE PROJECT IS FROM THE CIRCLE NORTH.

SO THAT'S GOING THROUGH AIRPORT TO WEST GROVE TO TRINITY MILLS FROM THE CIRCLE SOUTH IS THE QUORUM RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, WHICH IS HAPPENING, WHICH WE HAD, YOU KNOW, THE PLANS THAT CAME FORWARD.

SO FROM THE CIRCLE TO BELTLINE, THAT ROAD IS BEING RECONSTRUCTED.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AN OFF LANE, OFF OFF ROAD BIKE LANE AS YOU CROSS BELTLINE.

NOT IMMEDIATELY, BUT WE WILL GO DOWN TO TWO LANES EACH WAY WITH A BIKE LANE AS YOU WRAP AROUND.

AND THAT ROAD WILL BE REDIRECTED AS YOU GO AROUND AND IT HITS THE TOLLWAY.

AS YOU APPROACH THE TOLLWAY.

WE'LL OPEN BACK UP FOR ALL THE LANES, BUT THERE WILL BE THE SEGMENT IN THE MIDDLE WHERE YOU'LL GO FROM FOUR TO TWO LANES.

BUT THAT IS A DIFFERENT PROJECT.

THAT IS THE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS, SO IT'S CONFUSING, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT WAS HELPFUL.

I THOUGHT SOME OF THE MONEY WAS BEING SPENT ON BOTH SIDES OF BELTLINE.

SO IT'S ALL BEING SPENT NORTH OF BELTLINE NORTH, NORTH OF CIRCLE, NORTH OF THE CIRCLE.

SOUTH OF THE CIRCLE.

WHICH ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THE BIKE LANE PROJECT? THE BIKE LANE PROJECT IS ALSO BEING SPENT NORTH OF THE CIRCLE.

BUT AREN'T WE TAKING, PUTTING BIKE LANES IN SOUTH OF THE CIRCLE WHERE THERE'S CURRENTLY PARALLEL PARKING AND SIDEWALKS? CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT THE CIRCLE IS? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT? MAYBE HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT.

YEAH, SO THE ROUNDABOUT TO BELTLINE, YES.

WE'RE KEEPING ALL THE LANES OF TRAFFIC AND THERE WILL BE A BIKE LANE ON THE SIDE OFF ROAD, BUT THAT IS NOT PART OF THE BIKE LANE PROJECT.

SO THAT THE SIX, $6 MILLION GRANT MONEY AND THE ONE AND A HALF WE'RE PAYING DOESN'T PAY FOR THAT.

THAT'S COMING OUT OF THE MONEY FROM THAT BOND ELECTION THAT'S PAYING FOR QUORUM.

THAT YET TO COME TO US OR HAS THAT, IS THAT A DONE DEAL AS WELL? WE'LL HAVE DESIGN COMING FOR THAT IN THE NEXT PROBABLY IN TWO MEETINGS.

SO THEN THE QUESTION IS THE CIRCLE ITSELF AND THE SECTION FROM AIRPORT FREEWAY TO WEST GROVE, WE'RE LOSING VEHICULAR LANES? YES.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING PUSHBACK FROM.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT, WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THE PETITION, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

THAT AND GIVING UP THE PARKING SOUTH OF THE, THE PARALLEL PARKING SOUTH OF THE CIRCLE.

GOTCHA.

THOSE ARE THE ISSUES.

SO ON THE, UM, SO WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION A COUPLE MONTHS AGO THAT YOU MISSED WHERE WE GOT DIRECTION TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

BUT IT WILL, AS MARLA MENTIONED, WE'LL HAVE A DESIGN CONTRACT COMING FORWARD IN ABOUT THREE MEETINGS OR SO WHERE YOU'LL DECIDE IF YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN CONTRACT.

NOW I WATCHED THAT MEETING TOO AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WAS FROM THE ROUNDABOUT NORTH OF QUORUM TO AIRPORT.

NOT, NOT THE PHASE TWO ON QUORUM TO THE TOLLWAY.

THAT WAS A DIFFERENT PROJECT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDER, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

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UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THAT AND OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN CHANGE, COUNCIL CAN CHANGE THEIR MIND.

BUT WE'VE HAD, WE HAD A COMMITTEE AND WE HAD, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS, SO, WELL IIII THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME CLARIFICATION TONIGHT THAT IT'S NOT ALL SHEROS, THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY DEMOLITION ON SOME OF THE ROADS BRINGING IT DOWN TO TWO LANES.

SO, UH, I I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF, IF WE HAVE FOUR IN, IN THE SAME DIRECTION TONIGHT, I, BECAUSE I, I'M OPPOSED TO TEARING UP ANY LANES AND IF WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT FROM THE ROUNDABOUT, I'LL, I'LL GO ON RECORD.

I'M OPPOSED TO TEARING UP ANY LANES ANYWHERE ALONG QUORUM DRIVE, BUT WHATEVER PROJECT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING FORWARD WITH AT THIS POINT, THAT'S DEMOLITION.

I'M OPPOSED.

BUT JUST TO BE THE QUORUM GOING SOUTH OF THE ROUNDABOUT YES, SIR.

IS A RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

THAT ROAD IS BEING TORN UP.

NOW THE QUESTION OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AFTER IT GETS TORN UP IS ONE THAT WE CAN HAVE, BUT THAT ROAD IS BEING TORN UP.

IS IT BEING TORN UP FOR REPAIR OR YEAH, RECONSTRUCTION.

SO WE COULD GO BACK EXACTLY THE WAY IT IS NOW.

YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAIN THE MAIN COMPLAINTS WE GET FROM BUSINESSES AND PEOPLE IN THE CIRCLE IS PARKING.

AND IF WE COME IN HERE AND TAKE OUT THIS PARALLEL PARKING ALONG THE SIDE, WE'RE TAKING OUT THEIR PRIME PARKING.

SO I AM GOING TO BE OPPOSED TO ANYTHING THAT TAKES AWAY ANY OF THAT PARKING OR ANY LANE.

IF YOU WANT TO COME IN THERE AND PAINT A A A A PAINT STRIPE DOWN THE THING.

I'M NOT GONNA RAISE AS MUCH CANE ABOUT THAT, BUT ANY DEMOLITION AND, AND WE TALK ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS, IT'S ONLY GONNA BE A MILLION AND A HALF TO US, THAT'S REAL MONEY.

THAT'S NOT MONOPOLY MONEY.

AND THAT'S A MILLION AND A HALF THAT WE CAN PUT TOWARDS A LOT OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

IT, IT, IT IS JUST A NON-STARTER FOR ME.

I THINK YOU MADE YOUR POINT THERE, RANDY.

IS IS THERE, IS THERE ENOUGH INTEREST TO, FOR IN RANDY'S POSITION AND HOWARD'S POSITION AND I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE IS.

WELL I GUESS SO DAN, DO YOU WANT TO GET RID OF THE BIKE? IT WOULD BE MY POSITION NOT ON THE RECONSTRUCTION.

'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT, SO YOU WANT TO DOWN THERE, YOU WANT TO TAKE THE FUNDING OUT FOR THE BIKE LANE PROJECT? IT'S BIKE LANE.

SO WE HAVE FOUR TO TAKE THAT FUNDING OUT.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

WE HOLD ON.

SO WHAT DID WE JUST VOTE ON? SO NOW WE, WE DIDN'T VOTE ON ANYTHING.

WE GOT DIRECT, WE JUST, WE JUST GOT DIRECTION.

WE'RE AT A WORK SESSION.

WE GET DIRECTION DURING WORK SESSIONS, I'M SAYING, BUT IT'S DURATION THAT EVOKES WHAT I'M ASKING.

WE JUST, WE JUST GOT DIRECTION WITH DAN JOINING THE OTHER THREE TO CEASE THE BIKE LANE PROJECT, WHICH IS THE PROJECT WITH THE COG FUNDS GOING FROM THE CIRCLE ALL THE WAY TO TRINITY MILL.

I'D LIKE TO CHIME IN.

WE'RE USING SHEROS.

I'M, I'M TOTALLY FINE HAVING A BLANK LANE WITH PAINTING SHEROS.

I WAS THERE, THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS WE'VE GOTTA MEET IN THE, THE SHEROS OR, I MEAN WE WERE, THAT PRESENTATION WAS VERY CLEAR WHERE WE WERE USING SHEROS AND WHERE WE WEREN'T.

SO, BUT THAT'S FINE IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND.

YEAH, I THINK AFTER COMING OUT OF THAT CAMP, THAT COMMUNITY MEETING AND SEEING THAT PETITION OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING MOST EFFECTIVE IN THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE GONNA BE MOST EFFECTIVE, I'VE CHANGED MY MIND.

SO I WAS AT THE MEETING TOO, AND THEY ARE VERY HOT ABOUT IT.

IT'S A, IT'S A SHAME THAT IT'S, UH, TAKING THIS LONG TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT, BUT IT ACTIVATED THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO, SO NOW THEY'RE MORE AWARE OF STUFF COMING DOWN THE ROAD.

SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD FOR THE ENGAGEMENT.

UH, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT.

SO, SO FROM THE ROUNDABOUT TO THE COTTON BELT OR TO ARAPAHOE, THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE ANTICO GRANT, CORRECT? FROM THE ROUNDABOUT SOUTH IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS GRANT.

SO THE GRANT IS AN 80 20 GRANT.

IS THAT RIGHT? SO WE, IS THIS PROJECT, UM, IMPROVING, UH, SIDEWALKS? IT IS NORTH AND OVER WEST ON WEST GROVE.

JANET TIDWELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

UM, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.

SO YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT SIDEWALKS ON WEST GROVE, IS THAT CORRECT? WEST GROVE ALL THE WAY UP TO, UH, NEAR TRINITY MILLS.

SO THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT.

UM, IT IS TAKING THE EXISTING ROAD, WHICH IS WIDER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE.

REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS TO MAKE CROSSWALK IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND ADDING A BIKE LANE INTO THAT ROAD, BUT NOT REMOVING ANY LANES OF TRAFFIC ON WEST GROVE.

UM, WHERE WE DO HAVE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS WAS WE WERE GONNA OUT REALLOCATE THE FUNDS THAT WERE USED TO PUT THE ORIGINAL PROJECT, IF YOU REMEMBER, IT WAS KIND OF BUILDING A BIKE LANE WHERE THE PARALLEL PARKING WAS.

UM, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT.

WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PROPOSING IS THAT WE CREATE A BICYCLE BOULEVARD, WHICH HAS SHEROS IN THE AREA BETWEEN AIRPORT PARKWAY AND ADDISON CIRCLE.

UM, BUT WE WOULD

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UH, THE PROJECT DOES GO A LITTLE SOUTH, BUT IT STOPS AT THE COTTON BELT.

I I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

SO I WAS AT THE THURSDAY MEETING AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANYONE TALK ABOUT THE BIKE LANES.

WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY SAYING? WHAT IS, WHAT IS SO BAD? PRETTY MUCH, PRETTY MUCH.

IT'S, IT'S A NEVER WILL.

IT'S A NEVER WILL.

THEY DON'T WANT IT NEVER WILL.

AND, AND HOWEVER, I, THE OTHER POINT I WANNA MAKE IS I THINK WE NEED TO RETELL THE STORY 'CAUSE THERE'S MORE TO JUST TO BIKE LANES THAN JUST, WE DON'T HAVE RIDERS.

THIS IS A, A FUTURE INVESTMENT AND A, UM, AN A CO-INVESTMENT INTO THE TOWN THAT'S, IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN JUST RIGHT NOW TYPE OF DEAL.

SO THERE NEEDS TO BE A STORY OF WHY, WHY BUY PLANES ARE GOOD OR NOT GOOD.

AND THEN, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S MISINFORMATION OUT THERE, AND I, I WOULD HATE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO PASS AND WE LOSE THAT 80% FUNDING UPGRADE TO OUR TOWN, UH, BECAUSE OF MISINFORMATION AND A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT SAY, I'M SCARED ABOUT THIS CHANGE.

I, I WANT, I DON'T WANT CHANGE.

SO TELLING THE STORY, I I JUST THINK WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF MISSED IT AND IT'S, AND IT'S, IT'S SPUN OFF, OFF ON CONTROL.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, DARREN.

AND, AND THE AND I'M GONNA, THE THING THAT I HEAR THOUGH IS THAT, YOU KNOW, SO WE DON'T WANT BIKE LANES 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT, WE DON'T WANT CYCLISTS AND NOBODY RIDES BIKES ANYWAY, BY THE WAY, BECAUSE YOU HEAR ALL THIS THING, THESE THINGS GOING ON.

AND I, AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY SAY ANYTHING AT THAT MEETING EITHER, CHRIS, I WAS THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE, DIDN'T HEAR, DIDN'T HAVE ONE COMMENT FROM ANYBODY, BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.

BUT, BUT THE THEN THE IDEA TOO, WELL, LET'S PUSH 'EM AND TAKE 'EM, PUT 'EM ONTO ADDISON ROAD.

THE PART OF THE IDEA OF HAVING CYCLISTS GO INTO THIS AREA, THIS IS A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, YOU KNOW, CYCLIST FRIENDLY AREA.

WE, AND YOU, YOU HAVE A LOT OF CONCERN FOR THE BUSINESSES, AS DO I WELL THIS BRINGS PEOPLE INTO THOSE BUSINESSES THAT CAN STOP AND GO TO JAVA HOPS OR GO TO ARTIE'S OR, OR LION AND CROWN.

BUT, BUT IF YOU TAKE, YOU TAKE 'EM OFF OF THAT, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A FEWER FOLKS THAT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BY AND, AND, UH, SPEND SOME TIME AND MONEY AT THEIR, AT THOSE LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT WERE, THAT WE'RE ALL HERE TO SUPPORT.

SO IT JUST SEEMED CONFLICTING TO ME.

AND, UM, AND THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION SO MANY TIMES IS, IS FRUSTRATING.

AND, AND I JUST DON'T, UM, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'VE GONE DOWN THIS PATH SO MANY TIMES.

AND, UM, AND, AND I FEEL LIKE PART OF THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS MIGHT GET AROUND A GROUP OF FOLKS AND, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT DON'T LIKE BIKE LANES.

AND THEN THEY SAY, WELL, DO YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA PUT BIKE LANES OUT HERE? DO YOU KNOW HOW TERRIBLE THEY'RE GONNA BE? AND THEY HAD FUEL TO THE FIRE.

AND I THINK THAT'S A REALLY BIG PART OF THE PROBLEM BECAUSE PART OF OUR PROBLEM IS TO HELP EXPLAIN THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE NOT EVERYTHING'S EASY, EASY TO UNDERSTAND.

BUT IF WE GO OUT THERE AND VISIT, SAY, IT'S GONNA BE TERRIBLE, THEY'RE GONNA TEAR UP THE ROADS.

NOBODY'S GONNA COME TO YOUR BUSINESS ANYMORE, NOT GONNA HAVE ANY PARKING.

IT'S THE WORLD'S GONNA COME TO AN END.

IF THAT'S A STORY WE'RE TELLING, THEY'RE GONNA SAY, WELL, YOU'RE ON THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT.

IT IS TERRIBLE.

WHERE'S THAT PETITION? LEMME SIGN THAT.

I JUST THINK IT'S A SHAME THAT WE'RE DOING THAT.

MM-HMM .

AND, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO BE GOOD CITIZENS AND TAKE CARS OFF THE ROAD AND GIVE PEOPLE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND WE'VE GOT THE COTTON BELT TRAIL, THAT'S GONNA BE A GREAT ASSET TO, TO THE REGION.

AND THIS IS A CONNECTOR FOR THAT.

UH, I MEAN, I JUST THINK IT'S BACKWARDS THINKING TO, TO NOT, TO NOT, UH, GO FORWARD WITH IT.

SO YEAH, ADDISON'S ALWAYS BEEN INNOVATIVE AND CREATIVE AND, AND I SAW THIS AS A WAY TO BE ONE OF THE LEADERS IN THE REGION OF CONNECTIVITY.

UH, THERE ARE PRO, THERE ARE CITIES IN THIS COUNTRY THAT WOULD KILL TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF CONNECTIVITY COMING THROUGH THEIR CITY.

AND I CANNOT BELIEVE WE ARE ABOUT TO SAY NO TO THIS FUNDING AN 80 20 GRANT TO GET THIS TYPE OF CONNECTIVITY GOING THROUGH OUR TOWN.

I, I'M SHOCKED.

THERE ARE PEOPLE ON MY SIDE OF TOWN WHO ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS.

SO MY PROBLEM IS THAT WE'RE STUCK NOW WITH A BUNCH OF CITIZENS KNOWING A STORY THAT MAY NOT BE THE WHOLE STORY.

AND THEY'RE VERY UPSET ABOUT IT.

I WANNA REPRESENT THE CITIZENS, BUT I ALSO WANNA REPRESENT THE FUTURE CITIZENS OF ADDISON, MEANING OUR FUTURE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S A HARD DECISION WE HAVE TO MAKE AS COUNCIL.

IT OR WE CAN OR WE CAN DISPARAGE IT AND MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT'S A TERRIBLE THING.

AND WE HAVE TO VOTE OUR INDEPENDENTLY, OUR MIND.

AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE GREAT FOR THE TOWN, BIG PICTURE FOR THE TOWN AND, AND THE FUTURE AND SOME, AND SOMETIMES SOME, THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T LIKE SOMETHING.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN OPTION.

WE, WE CAN EITHER BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT AND WE CAN, WE CAN, UM, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO, TO UNDERSTAND

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AND, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GONE.

SO, UM, I JUST THINK IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE THAT, UH, THAT Y'ALL ARE MAKING THIS CHOICE.

WELL, I DON'T THINK THE BIKE LANES ARE A TERRIBLE THING AND I HAVE NOT BEEN DISCOURAGING PEOPLE ALONG THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE IN INSINUATING.

I HAVE TALKED TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT AND THE COMMENTS I'VE HEARD ARE FROM BIKERS THEMSELVES THAT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT STREET TO PUT IT ON.

THEY BIKE, THEY PUT THEIR BIKE IN THE CAR, AND THEY GO TO TRAILS AND THEY RIDE TRAILS.

THEY THINK THAT STREET IS TOO CONGESTED.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING DOGS, LEASHES AND BIKES ARE A PROBLEM TOGETHER.

I'VE HEARD THERE ARE VERY FEW BIKERS ON THE STREET AND I'VE HEARD THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, IF THIS IS VERY SUCCESSFUL AND WE HAVE A LOT OF BIKERS, WILL THEY BE BIKERS FROM MADISON OR BIKERS FROM OTHER TOWNS? I REALIZE WE'RE TRYING TO CONNECT, I'M TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT MAYBE WOULD MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY.

THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED ADDISON ROAD, WHICH I WOULD VOTE TO SPEND MORE MONEY TO PUT THE TRAIL THERE.

IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T WANT THE TRAIL, IT'S THAT I DON'T THINK ADDISON ROAD IS THE CORRECT STREET AFTER LISTENING TO BOTH BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS AND BIKERS.

AND SO I, I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT.

I I DON'T THINK THAT THAT, UH, IT SHOULD JUST BE PASSED BECAUSE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS IS OFFERING US FREE MONEY.

I HATE TO PASS UP THE MONEY, BUT I'D RATHER SPIN IT ON ADDISON ROAD AND MAKE DEDICATED LANES THE WHOLE WAY.

AND THE PEOPLE THAT YOU MENTIONED, THE BUSINESSES, UM, I WAS TALKING TO TYLER AND HIS GIRLFRIEND, OR HIS FIANCE WAS, WAS NEXT TO HIM.

AND HE DIDN'T THINK ADDISON ROAD WOULD BE BAD, BUT HE SAID, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BUSINESSES THAT WE WOULD PATRONIZE STOPPING TO HAVE DRINKS, WHATEVER ALONG THE WAY.

AND I SAID, WELL, THE BIKERS I KNOW DON'T STOP.

THEY HAVE A THERMOS.

THEY RIDE, THEY DRINK, THEY GO 20 SOMETHING MILES.

AND THEN SHE SAID TO HIM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA STOP.

THEY'RE JUST GONNA DRINK AND RIDE ON THROUGH THE BUSINESSES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THAT WOULD BE PATRONIZED.

THEY'RE THE ONES SAYING THEY DON'T WANT IT.

AND AND I SAID TO HIM, I GO, I DON'T THINK SOMEONE'S GONNA STOP AND HAVE THEIR NAILS DONE OR GET A HAIRCUT OR BUY INSURANCE FOR THEIR HOUSE OR HAVE PLANS DRAWN.

'CAUSE THOSE BUSINESSES ARE THERE TOO, TOO.

AND THOSE BUSINESSES, IF IT'S REALLY SUCCESSFUL, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF BIKE TRAFFIC.

AND IF IT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL, THEN WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT.

BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE MAYBE THERE'S A SOLUTION OTHER THAN QUORUM.

SO I'D LIKE TO STUDY ADDISON ROAD AND JUST SEE WHAT, WHAT WOULD THAT COST AND TAKE IT OFF THE BUDGET FOR NOW.

WELL, SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE ENOUGH SUPPORT TO DO THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE IF WE HAVE THE SUPPORT? I HAVE NOTHING ELSE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE HEARING, DAVID? YEP.

I'M SORRY, WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT DAVID? WE WERE REMOVING THE BIKE LANES FROM THE, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE, OKAY.

MOVING THE BIKE LANE PROJECT GOING NORTH FROM THE BUDGET.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE FOR US, STEVEN? UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE OKAY WITH THE PROPERTY TAX RATE CHANGE AS PROPOSED.

MM-HMM .

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANY, ANY CHANGES? THAT WAS ALL THAT I HAD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS, STEVEN.

B PRESENT AND DISCUSS A PROPOSED ZIP CODE UNIFICATION REQUEST AND PROJECT AND MAKING HER DEBUT IN FRONT OF COUNSEL.

I, I HAVE A MOTION WHEN YOU GET READY TO TAKE MOTION.

THIS IS NOTHING TO VOTE ON.

[b. Present and discuss a proposed Zip Code Unification request and project.]

WE HAVE EMILY.

ADVANCE MULTIPLE STRATEGIC PLAN FOCUS AREAS.

ALL RIGHT, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, GOOD EVENING.

I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE ZIP CODE UNIFICATION PROJECT.

MY NAME'S EMILY WATSON.

I'M THE HR LEARNING AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.

I'VE ALSO BEEN ASSISTING THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WITH SOME VARIOUS PROJECTS.

THIS IS THE CLICKER .

PERFECT.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

UM, SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE ZIP CODE.

UM, PRIOR TO 1998, ADDISON ACTUALLY HAD FIVE ZIP CODES AND WE WERE ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE IT DOWN TO THE TWO THAT WE HAVE NOW, 7, 5, 0 0 1 AND THE 7 5 2 5 4 2015.

ADDISON UNDERWENT THIS FORMAL PROCESS THROUGH USPS TO UNIFY THE TWO ZIP CODES.

FORTUNATELY, WE DID NOT RECEIVE THE RESPONSE RATE THAT WAS NEEDED FOR IT TO PASS.

UM, AND THIS REQUEST CAN ONLY BE MADE EVERY 10 YEARS.

SO THE TOWN IS NOW ELIGIBLE SHOULD COUNCIL WISH TO PROCEED.

ALL RIGHT.

SO HOW WILL THIS ALIGN WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN? MOVING FROM ONE ZIP CODE, UH, FOR ADDISON WILL

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THE TOP THREE, UM, ON THE SCREEN HERE ARE GONNA BE, BE OUR KEY OBJECTIVE AREA POINTS.

AND THE BOTTOM TWO ARE JUST GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE.

SO MOVING TO ONE ZIP CODE, UM, WILL CREATE A CLEAR IDENTITY, UH, AND UNITE THE COMMUNITY.

ALSO KEEP THAT VIBRANT ACTIVE COMMUNITY AND WE'LL ALSO OPTIMIZE AND MARKET ADDISON'S ADDRESS FOR SUCCESS, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BRANDING.

SO LET'S GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

UM, THE TOWN WILL SUBMIT A FORMAL REQUEST THROUGH USPS, UM, TO THE USPS DISTRICT MANAGER.

UH, FROM THERE, THE DISTRICT MANAGER WILL HAVE 60 DAYS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY CAN OPERATIONALLY ACCOMMODATE THIS REQUEST.

UM, START OUR TOWN OUTREACH AND MARKETING STRATEGY.

UH, USPS WILL ADMINISTER ALL, UH, THE SURVEYS TO ALL THE POSTAL CUSTOMERS IN THE AFFECTED AREA IN THE 7 5 2 5 4 ZIP CODE.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW EVERY ADDRESS.

WE'LL HAVE ONE VOTE.

AND THAT IS, UM, IF WE HAVE A BUSINESS BUILDING THAT HAS FIVE TENANTS, EVERY TENANT WILL RECEIVE A SURVEY.

SO IN ORDER TO PASS, WE WILL NEED 50.1% OF THE RESPONSE RATE TO BE IN SUPPORT.

UH, THIS WILL BE OF THE RESPONSES RECEIVED, NOT OF THE TOTAL SURVEYS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY SENT OUT.

AND SO IF APPROVED, UM, IT WOULD TAKE AROUND A YEAR TO, UH, CHANGE ALL THE ZIP CODES IN THE IMPACTED AREA.

SO LET'S LOOK AT THE IMPACTED AREA.

SO, UM, ACCORDING TO D CED RECORDS, UH, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 670 ADDRESSES IN THE 7 5 2 5 4 DALLAS ZIP CODE.

UH, ALL THE GREEN ON THE SCREEN HERE IS GONNA BE OUR RESIDENTIAL.

SO IT'S GONNA BE OUR OAKS NORTH NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AND THEN OUR YELLOW AND BLUE UH, DOTS THERE ARE GOING TO BE ALL OF OUR, UH, BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY.

UM, SO AGAIN, UM, UH, A GREAT EXAMPLE IS ADDISON TOWN HALL.

I KNOW WE ARE MOVING TO A BEAUTIFUL NEW TOWN HALL, BUT THIS STILL WILL BE TOWN OWNED.

UM, AND SO THAT CAN, UH, REDUCE ANY CONFUSION BETWEEN ADDISON AND DALLAS.

SO ALL OF THESE ADDRESSES HERE WOULD RECEIVE ONE SURVEY AND, UH, GET ONE VOTE.

ALL RIGHTY.

SO WHEN WE, UM, REALLY MARKET AND STRATEGIZE, IT'S GONNA BE REALLY CR CRUCIAL FOR US TO COMMUNICATE THE WHY TO RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.

SO WE CREATED THESE FOUR MESSAGE PILLARS.

UM, WE'RE GONNA WANNA UNIFY ADDISON BRAND WITH ADDISON LOCAL ADVANTAGE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

SO, UM, ONE TOWN, ONE ZIP CODE, UH, WE'RE GONNA BRAND OFF THE AD ADDRESS FOR SUCCESS AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THAT LOCAL ADVANTAGE, FASTER FRIENDLIER, UM, AND FEWER MISSED ROUTES THROUGH THE UM, USPS POSTAL OFFICE EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

UM, THIS IS TALKED TO BOTH CHIEFS.

THEY MADE A GREAT POINT THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY AT A BUSINESS ON, UH, IN VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY WHERE A FIRE ALARM WAS CHALLENGED.

UM, AND BY THE TIME, AND THIS BUSINESS BUSINESSES TYPICALLY USE, UH, THIRD PARTY VENDORS SUCH AS A DT AND THE A DT OR THIRD PARTY VENDORS, THEY WILL TYPICALLY PING ZIP CODE.

SO WHEN ADDISON ARRIVED, DALLAS WAS PRESENT.

AND SO THAT CAN BE A GREAT, UH, THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW IT CAN RESOLVE ANY CONFUSION BETWEEN DALLAS AND ADDISON.

SO LOOKING INTO OUR MARKETING AND OUTREACH STRATEGY AT A MACRO LEVEL, WE ARE GONNA BRAND OFF OF THE ADDRESS FOR SUCCESS.

WE ALSO ADDED SOME OTHER SECONDARY TAGLINES.

UM, THIS WILL BE, UH, VERY POPULAR ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.

AND SO DIVING INTO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AT A MICRO LEVEL, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA, OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO SHARE AND PROMOTE THIS THROUGH THE TOWN.

UH, SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS.

SHARE THIS IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS, UH, NEWSLETTERS.

UM, WE ARE WANTING TO SEND ALL, UH, MAIL ALL IMPACTED ADDRESSES WITH PERSONALIZED MESSAGING.

UM, AND WHILE ALL OF THE MARKETING AND ADVERTISING IS IMPORTANT, UM, GRASSROOTS AND OUTREACH AND, UH, ACTUALLY VISITING WITH BUSINESSES WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT.

SO WE WILL BE STOPPING AT BUSINESSES AND VISITING WITH THEIR STAFF TO SHARE THE IMPORTANCE OF WHY THIS IS, UH, BEING REQUESTED.

WE WILL START AN AMBASSADOR PROGRAM.

WE'LL GET A FEW LOCAL LEADERS, UM, TO SUPPORT THE CHANGE AND TALK TO THEIR NEIGHBORS ABOUT IT.

WE WILL HOST A TOWN HALL MEETING.

UM, THIS WILL BE GREAT FOR STAKEHOLDERS TO HAVE Q AND A, AND THEN OF COURSE, PROUD TO BE AN ADDISON SIGNAGE.

ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT NEXT STEPS, UH, STAFF IS SEEKING COUNCIL DIRECTION IF TOWN SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH SEEKING ZIP CODE UNIFICATION.

UM, COUNCIL CONSIDERS RESOLUTION ON SEPTEMBER 9TH.

UM, AND IF APPROVED, WE WILL SUBMIT A FORMAL REQUEST TO USPS WITH THIS, UH, RESOLUTION.

FROM THERE, THAT'LL PUT US TO LATE NOVEMBER, UH, TO DETERMINE TO HEAR BACK IF USPS CAN OPERATIONALLY ACCOMMODATE OUR REQUEST.

WE'LL ALSO START OUR ACCOUNT OUTREACH.

UM, THE USPS WILL THEN ADMINISTER THE MAIL ESTIMATED AROUND MARCH, 2026.

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WE'LL RECEIVE THOSE.

UM, WE'LL RECEIVE THE, UH, SURVEY DETERMINATION AROUND NOT TOO LONG AFTER THAT.

AND SO HOPEFULLY IF APPROVED BY MARCH, 2027, WE ARE LOOKING FOR ADDISON TO HAVE ONE ZIP CODE, THE 7 5 0 0 1.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, EMILY.

QUESTIONS MARK HERE.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE.

EMILY, CAN WE GO BACK TO SLIDE FIVE? YEAH, THERE WE GO.

YES.

UM, I GET, I GET THE, THE YELLOW DOTS FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, BUT, UM, I'M, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BLUE DOTS FOR BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY.

CAN YOU KIND OF ELABORATE ON, ON, UH, THAT SCENARIO? I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THEY'D BE LINKED TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SARAH, DO YOU WANNA ASSIST WITH THAT QUESTION? THANK YOU.

SARAH KLER, CHIEF OF STAFF.

UM, SO THESE WERE JUST RECORDS PULLED FROM D AD AND THEY CATEGORIZE IT BY THESE CATEGORIES FOR COMMERCIAL OR BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY.

IT'S ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES, BASICALLY.

UM, WE JUST DIDN'T SEPARATE IT OUT.

SO AS FAR, I, AND REALLY WHAT I'M DRIVING AT IS, UH, TRYING TO GET AN ACCURATE NUMBER ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY VOTERS.

UM, DO WE HAVE THAT OR IS THAT JUST A TOTAL OF, OF IT'S JUST THE TOTAL OF THE TWO.

YEAH, THAT'S, IF WE CAN GET THAT LATER, YOU KNOW.

YEAH, I MEAN IT'S BIG FOR THIS DIS FOR THIS DISCUSSION.

WE WERE JUST WENT WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD, YOU KNOW, .

OKAY, I GOT IT.

UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, LIKE FARMERS BRANCH, UM, THEY ALLOW SOME OF THEIR BUSINESSES TO USE, UM, DALLAS IN THEIR NAMING IF, IF THE BUSINESS CHOOSES TO.

AND, UM, I HOPE WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT AS AN OPTION, UM, IF WE'RE TO GET, UH, GET THE VOTE FROM THE BUSINESS.

I THINK LAST TIME WE DID NOT GET A, UH, THE, THE, THE VOTE FOR THIS ON THE BUSINESSES.

SO, UM, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT, UM, TRYING TO GET THIS THING PASSED.

I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS 7 5 0 0 1.

UM, SO THAT'S JUST A, A THOUGHT THAT I HAD WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS.

UM, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

AND WE DID ASK USPS ABOUT THAT PROCESS.

THEY HAVE AN ACCEPTABLE CITY.

UM, SO YOU COULD HAVE PRIMARY AND THEN OTHER ACCEPTABLE CITIES THAT THEY'LL, THEY'LL ACCEPT FOR THE MAIL TO STILL COME THERE.

UM, SO WE DID ASK THE, THE POST OFFICE REPRESENTATIVE WASN'T SURE, UM, SO WE'RE HOPING WE'LL HEAR BACK SHORTLY.

SO WITH SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW YOU COULD GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THAT IF WE MOVED TO 7 5, 0 0 1, BUT A BUSINESS STILL WANTED TO LIST DALLAS AS THEIR MAILING ADDRESS, WOULD THAT BE AN ACCEPTABLE CITY THROUGH THE POST OFFICE? AND WOULD THEY ACCOMMODATE THAT OR NOT? WELL, I'M GLAD, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THEIR OPERATIONS.

WELL, I'M GLAD WE'RE LOOKING INTO THAT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD, UH, I THINK THAT MIGHT HELP US PUSH, PUSH US OVER THE EDGE TO GET THE MAJORITY VOTE ON THIS.

UM, AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING, UM, I THINK DEPENDING ON THAT ANSWER, YOU MAY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT MARKETING CAMPAIGNS.

ONE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND, AND ONE FOR, FOR BUSINESS.

AND THEN THE LAST THING, I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO IT, UH, EMILY, WHEN IN YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION IS, UM, TAPPING INTO THE HOA, THE, THE RESIDENTIAL LEADERS, UM, HOA BOARD MEMBERS OVER OAKS NORTH, THIS GENTLEMAN RANDY.

UM, IF WE'RE GET, IF WE'RE GONNA GET OUT THE VOTE AND WE'RE GONNA GET, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO GET NEAR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE RESIDENTIAL VOTE, I THINK, TO GET THIS PASSED.

SO THOSE ARE THE, THE THOUGHTS I HAD.

THANK YOU, MARK.

SO 7, 5, 2, 3 4 BECAME 7 5, 2, 4 4.

UH, UM, SO OWNING BUSINESSES IN AROUND THE AREA.

SEVEN, FIVE, UM, SEVEN, FIVE, UH, SEVEN, TWO.

AND IF I, ANYTHING, SEVEN, FIVE, UH, TWO CAN BE DALLAS IS WHAT I'VE UNDERSTOOD.

I WAS IN FARMER'S BRANCH 2, 4, 4, UM, 7 5 2, I GUESS IS, IS IT, UM, THAT CAN BE DALLAS AND, UH, I THINK WE'RE GONNA RUN UP AGAINST A STOP, BUT YOU HAVE THE DEFENDANT ANSWER WHEN YOU GET IT, IT 7, 5, 0, 0 1.

GOOD LUCK.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO IT.

UM, AND I, UH, WOULDN'T USE FARMERS BRANCH BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS FARMERS BRANCH AND EVERYBODY KNOWS DALLAS, LIKE WORLDWIDE, SAME.

ADDISON'S BETTER.

BUT, UH, IT'S, IT'S STILL GONNA BE A CHALLENGE FOR SOME BUSINESSES THAT HAVE THAT IDENTITY DRIVE RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE RESTAURANTS AROUND HERE THAT WANNA BE CALLED ADDISON.

THEY'RE REALLY NOT IN ADDISON CITY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, SO I THINK THEY, THEY WOULD LIKE THE IDENTITY FOR SURE.

UM, SO WHAT IS, WHAT'S THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS BELLE BROOKS AND UM, WYNWOOD, WHAT'S YOUR TEMPERATURE? WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK FROM YOUR PEOPLE? WELL, I HAVEN'T DISCUSSED IT WITH ANY NEIGHBORS.

UM, LIKE YOU, MY BUSINESS WAS IN FARMER'S BRANCH AND I ABSOLUTELY WANTED A DALLAS ADDRESS.

BUT THEY ALLOWED US TO SAY DALLAS, I DIDN'T REALLY CARE WHAT THE ZIP CODE NUMBER WAS, BUT I WANTED DALLAS BECAUSE I

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DID BUSINESS NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY.

AND I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO GLAZER'S, WHOLESALE LIQUORS, WHO ABSOLUTELY WANTS DALLAS, NO DOUBT.

AND SO IF HE COULD BE 7 5 0 0 1 AND STILL PUT DALLAS, HE'D PROBABLY BE OKAY WITH THAT.

BUT IF HE HAS TO GO TO ADDISON, HIS PROBLEM IS HE'S INTERNATIONAL AND NOBODY KNOWS WHERE ADDISON IS.

INTERNATIONAL, LOCALLY, EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE ADDISON IS.

PERSONALLY FOR MY RESIDENCE, I DON'T CARE.

IT'D PROBABLY BE EASIER TO BE 7 5 0 0 1 BECAUSE I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE I LIVE IN ADDISON, BUT MY ADDRESS IS DALLAS AND IT'S JUST CONFUSING.

SO I DON'T REALLY CARE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW RANDY FEELS WE'RE IN THE SAME ZIP CODE, BUT FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS.

DO WE KNOW WHAT THE VOTE WAS LAST TIME? NOT FOR THE PASS.

IT NEEDS TO BE 50.1.

WHEN WE TRIED THIS 10 YEARS AGO, DO WE KNOW WHERE THAT VOTE ENDED UP? YEAH.

UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE A MAYOR'S NEWSLETTER FROM 2015 THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, DIG UP AND I CAN READ YOU THE RESULTS THAT WERE PROVIDED THERE.

98 RESIDENTS SIMPLY DID NOT VOTE.

68% OF THE RESIDENTS WHO DID VOTE WERE IN FAVOR OF THE UNIFICATION.

THE ELECTION MARGIN WAS ONLY 58 VOTES.

SO VOTING IS IMPORTANT.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COMMERCIAL VOTERS REALLY DROVE THAT DECISION.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT'S BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT.

THEY, THEY WANT, THEY LOVE BEING IN ADDISON, BUT WANT TO BE DALLAS FOR THEIR ADDRESS.

WE, WE FOUND LIMITED INFORMATION FROM THE LAST TIME AROUND, BUT WE DID FIND THAT, UM, WE DO THINK THE BUSINESS IS AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT HERE IN ORDER TO YEAH.

GET SUPPORT FOR.

SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY WHERE WE NEED TO SPEND TIME IN MARKETING.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

SO MAYBE, SO MAYBE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT, IS TO FIND OUT, GET YOUR ANSWER FROM THE POSTAL SERVICE AS TO WHETHER THEY CAN USE DALLAS 7 5 0 0 1 OR NOT.

CERTAINLY THE RESIDENTIAL FOLKS.

WHAT, WHAT'S OUR COST FOR GOING THROUGH THIS? YEP, THAT'S WHAT ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.

IT WOULD BE MINIMAL.

UM, WE JUST HAVE SOME COSTS FOR MARKETING AND ADVERTISING, PROBABLY 10 TO 20,000 AT MOST.

DID WE, DID WE DO A, LIKE A STUDY? I KNOW THAT IN THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS, THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION THAT WAS JUST ASKED, WHAT WAS THE RESULTS OF THE LAST ONE? UM, DO WE HAVE ANY DATA ON LIKE, UH, DID WE DO A S UH, UH, STUDY ON HOW MUCH THIS WOULD COST BUSINESSES TO CHANGE? WE HAVE 406 BUSINESSES TO CHANGE THEIR ADDRESS WITH ALL THEIR VENDORS, YOU KNOW, HARD COSTS OFF COST.

AND THEN OTHER QUESTION IS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY BENEFIT, UH, UH, FINANCIAL HARD BENEFIT FOR THE TOWN NECESSARILY TO CHANGE THIS REALLY.

AND MY THIRD POINT IS IF YOU GO LOOK AT ADDISON BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS OVER ON ADDISON WALK, THAT'S SO CONFUSING.

THAT'S JUST MESSED UP.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S A GOOD DRIVER FOR THIS.

I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT ADD I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO MY WIFE THIS MORNING, I'M LIKE, HERE'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE BOUNDARIES AND SO, UM, RETURN, UH, ADDISON, ANY RETURN ON, ON THIS INVESTMENT AND THEN ESTIMATED COST OF BUSINESS, DO WE HAVE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE AN ESTIMATED COST OF BUSINESS.

UM, IF WAYNE IS WILLING, I'LL HAVE HIM CALL HIM FROM SHARE.

HE, THEY DID SOME PRELIMINARY OUTREACH TO BUSINESSES.

UM, JUST SOME FEEDBACK, UM, THAT WE HEARD ABOUT POTENTIALLY SEEKING THE ZIP CODE UNIFICATION.

AND I DON'T KNOW, WAYNE, IF YOU CAN EVEN ON THAT.

I, UH, WAYNE EMERSON, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE DID A VERY, I WOULD THINK UNSCIENTIFIC, UH, STRAW POLL WITH SOME OF OUR BUSINESSES THERE.

AND I THINK PRETTY MUCH THIS, IT WAS THE EXACT SENTIMENT I'M HEARING ON COUNCIL RIGHT NOW THAT, UH, VERY MUCH RESTAURANTS, UH, MORE OF YOUR RETAIL FOCUS.

UM, YOUR LO UM, BUSINESSES THAT HAVE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS WITHIN DFW VERY MUCH SAW IT AS A POSITIVE 'CAUSE IT HELPED, UH, SHOW THIS IS THE LOCATION THAT WE'RE AT.

YOU KNOW, TO GO ORDERS WOULD GO TO THE WRONG LOCATION.

SO THEY REALLY THOUGHT AN ADDISON ADDRESS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.

SOME VERY MUCH LIKE WHOLE FOODS SAID, HEY, THIS IS OUR BRAND.

WE, WE REALLY HOLD THAT UP.

AND THEN IF YOU PROBABLY WENT MORE TO THE OFFICE MARKET USERS, THOSE WHOSE CUSTOMERS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE REGION, NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY, PRETTY MUCH THEY, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO, TO MAINTAIN THAT DALLAS, UH, NAME RECOGNITION.

BUT, UH, VERY, UH, STRAW POLL, NOT, NOT VERY SCIENTIFIC IN, IN THAT OUTREACH.

AND AS, AS FAR AS THE QUESTION ON RETURN ON INVESTMENT, I DON'T KNOW HOW I WOULD QUALIFY, HOW I WOULD CALCULATE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

WHAT I'LL SAY IS THOUGH THERE ARE FOLKS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT MAKING THIS CHANGE.

I THINK IT'S COME UP IN EVERY TOWN HALL THAT I'VE BEEN IN SO FAR.

AND THERE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

SO, UM, JUST FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH AS FAR AS WHY WE'RE HAVING HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, IT'S REALLY DRIVEN BY THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

WELL, I AM ONE OF THOSE GREEN DOTS.

SO, UM, THERE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHY

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THIS IS COMING UP AGAIN.

IT, UM, UH, I I DON'T KNOW THAT SENTIMENTS ARE GONNA BE ANY DIFFERENT.

THEY'LL HAVE HIT ON A LOT OF THE GREAT TOPICS.

UH, MY WIFE RAN AN INTERNATIONAL COMPANY, UH, AND THEY WERE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO CHANGING TO AN ADDISON BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS ADDISON.

THEY LO THEY KNOW DALLAS.

UM, I KNOW BEING ONE OF THESE GREEN DOTS, IF YOU PUT ADDISON AND PUT MY REGULAR ZIP CODE ON AN ENVELOPE, IT DOES NOT GET TO ME.

IT, IT GETS SENT BACK.

UH, THAT MISTAKE WAS MADE WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE AND IT TOOK US MONTHS TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE WEREN'T GETTING OUR CLOSING DOCUMENTS OR WHATEVER.

SO HAVING ONE IN ANOTHER, I DON'T THINK IS THE ANSWER.

UH, I I THINK THIS IS A BIG DING SANDWICH TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

THERE'S MANY, MANY CITIES, MOST CITIES HAVE MULTIPLE ZIP CODES.

UH, THE, THE, THE TROUBLE AND EXPENSE THAT EACH HOUSEHOLD AND EACH BUSINESS WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO CHANGE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO ON AN EVERYDAY MESSAGE, UH, BUSINESS.

YOUR RETURN ENVELOPE, YOUR ANYTHING THAT HAS YOUR ADDRESS OR YOUR DIRECT BILLING OR ANYTHING THAT YOU ARE BEING BILLED IS JUST NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE OF DOING THIS.

UM, I KNOW SEVERAL OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE GOTTEN WIND OF THIS AND, UH, WITHOUT, UM, ME SAYING NEGATIVE THINGS, THEY COME TO ME, UH, OPPOSED TO THIS.

AND UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I I HAVE NEVER APPROACHED SOMEONE WITH NEGATIVE COMMENTS ON ANYTHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

I TRY TO LISTEN FIRST BEFORE I GIVE MY OPINIONS.

I KNOW MOST OF THESE GREEN DOTS ARE GONNA BE OPPOSED TO IT.

OTHER COMMENTS? I HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT QUESTION.

UM, CAN WE DO SOME OTHER, UH, SURVEYS TO, TO GET THE TEMPERATURE OF, UH, THE, THE BUSINESSES BEFORE WE PROCEED? AND CAN WE ALSO ASK MORE QUESTIONS, UH, ON THE POST OFFICE? CAN THEY MAKE SOME CHANGES TO WHERE IT CAN MOVE POST OFFICES, THAT AREA, THE RESIDENTIAL AREA? CAN IT MOVE TO THE 7 5 0 0 1 POST OFFICE INSTEAD OF 7 5 2 5 4? IF YOU'VE ALREADY ASKED THAT, YOU MAY HAVE, WE HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM THE POST OFFICE, SO YES, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING YEAH, THAT QUESTION, THAT QUESTION ALSO, RIGHT? YEAH.

UM, SO WE'LL ASK THAT AS WELL.

I GONNA TRY TO GET MORE CLARITY ON THAT.

WE CAN COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH, WITH MORE INFORMATION IF YOU'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION FROM THE OFFICIAL POST OFFICE BEFORE WE PROCEED.

UM, IF WE WANNA GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION FROM THE BUSINESSES OR TEMPERATURE, WE COULD TRY TO DO THAT AS WELL.

UM, THERE IS NO TIME RUSH ON THIS PROPOSED PROJECT THAT WAS JUST A PROPOSED TIMELINE SO YOU COULD KIND OF SEE THE STEPS IN THE PROCESS, BUT THERE'S NOTHING DRIVING SAYING WE HAVE TO DO IT IN THE SPRING.

UM, THAT IT'S PURELY UP TO COUNCIL IN YOUR DECISION.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE SOME MORE INFORMATION FIRST, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

SO TO BE CLEAR, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OAKS NORTH WYNWOOD, UM, LAKE FOREST AND BELLBROOK CELESTIAL, IF THEY COULD ALL BE 7, 5 0 0 1 ADDISON, THAT'S A QUESTION, RIGHT? AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S ONE QUESTION.

UH, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS IF WE CAN HAVE THE QUESTION YOU ALREADY MENTIONED, UH, ANSWERED IF THEY CAN BE 7 5 2 5 4 ADDISON, I DON'T THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

ASKING ABOUT THE 7, 5, 0 0 1 OVER THERE, CAN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BE SERVICED BY THAT, THAT POST OFFICE? THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD HERE.

THAT'S, WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

IF, IF, IF IT WERE TO PASS, UM, WELL I, I GUESS I'M SAYING AND NOT CHANGE AND NOT THE BUSINESS.

YEAH, CHANGE THE BOUNDARIES.

'CAUSE WE HAVE, THEY HAVE BOUNDARIES FOR THE POST OFFICE ALREADY.

AM I MISSING SOMETHING? THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

I I'M, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE OTHER PARTS OF IT.

'CAUSE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS, THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONES A LOT OF THE NIG RESIDENTIAL WANT TO CHANGE THEIR ZIP CODE.

AND ARE, ARE YOU, SO YOU'D HAVE A 7, 5 0 0 1 IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 2, 5 4 OVER THERE IN, THAT'S PART OF TOWN, RIGHT? I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THE POST OFFICE WILL HAVE A NON, NON-CONTIGUOUS AREA.

JUST WANNA ASK YOU.