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          HOW ARE YOU GUYS? 
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GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? OKAY. 
          [1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present.]
GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. 
          IT IS FOUR O'CLOCK AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 12TH, 2025. 
          WE DO HAVE A FORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT WITH SIX MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE AT THIS TIME, AND THE SEVENTH WILL JOIN A LITTLE BIT LATER VIA ZOOM. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, WE'RE GOING, GOING 
          [2. Citizen Comments on the Consent Agenda Items. This item allows citizens to speak on any item listed on the Consent Agenda prior to its consideration. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the beginning of this item.]
RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, CITIZEN COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          AND IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. 
          SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THAT ITEM AND MOVE ON TO ITEM 
          [3. Council Member Clarification Requests Regarding Consent Agenda Items. ]
NUMBER THREE. 
          COUNCILMAN FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          REQUEST REGARDING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS NEEDED FROM COUNSEL OR FOR COUNSEL ON CONSENT ITEMS? NO MA'AM. 
          ALRIGHT THEN. 
          AND, UH, ITEM THREE A COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. 
          THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE SENT BY COUNCIL TO STAFF REGARDING, UH, AGENDA ITEMS ARE PUT INTO A SINGLE DOCUMENT AND THAT DOCUMENT IS SENT OUT TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          AND THAT SECOND DOCUMENT IS UPLOADED TO THE WEBSITE, THE TOWN WEBSITE. 
          SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE THAT IN THE PUBLIC, THEN GO TO THE ADDISON WEBSITE ADDISON.GOV AND FIND THE AGENDA AND THERE'LL BE A LINK WITHIN THE AGENDA TO DOWNLOAD THAT DOCUMENT FOR THEMSELVES. 
          ALRIGHT, ITEM 
          [4. Closed Meeting. The Addison City Council will enter a Closed Meeting pursuant to Texas Government Code Sections 551-071 through 090 to discuss the following item(s):]
NUMBER FOUR, CLOSE MEETING. 
          UH, ADDISON CITY COUNCIL WILL ENTER A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 51 DASH 71 THROUGH 0 9 0 TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. AND WE HAVE FOUR CLOSED ITEMS TODAY, SO I'LL READ OFF ALL OF THOSE. 
          FOUR A IS PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.071. 
          SECTION TWO TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING SOLID WASTE, CONTRACT RENEWAL OF NEGOTIATIONS AND SCOPE OF SERVICE. 
          ITEM FOUR B IS PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.0 87, SECTION ONE AND TWO DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS TO DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE REGARDING COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT OR BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE, STAY, OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE TERRITORY OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON, AND WITH WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OR TO DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO SUCH BUSINESS PROSPECT OR BUSINESS PROSPECTS. 
          AND THE ITEM IS PROJECT RED RIVER, THEN ITEM FOUR C PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.071. 
          SECTION TWO TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING AGENDA ITEM FIVE A, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          AND FINALLY, ITEM FOUR D PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.074, SECTION A ONE PERSONNEL MATTERS TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE. 
          AND THE ITEM IS CITY MANAGER CONTRACT. 
          IT IS 4 0 3 AND WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THIS TIME AND WE'LL BE IN THERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE. 
          TWO O'CLOCK FRIDAY. 
          [5. Open Meeting. In accordance with Texas Government Code Chapter 551, the Addison City Council will reconvene in an Open Meeting to consider action, if any, on the matters discussed in the Closed Meeting.]
OKAY, IT IS SEVEN O'CLOCK AND WE WILL READ ADJOURN THE COUNCIL FOR OUR WORK SESSION TIME. 
          WE'RE COMING OUT OF A CLOSED SESSION AT 7:00 PM AND THERE IS NO ACCIDENT TAKEN FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION. 
          AND WE DO HAVE THE FOURTH ITEM, FOURTH CLOSED SESSION ITEM WHERE WE WILL GO BACK AND FINISH THAT UP AT THE END OF THE, UH, AT THE END OF THE, THE, UH, MEETING TONIGHT. 
          SO WE STILL HAVE ONE MORE WORK START. 
          ONE MORE CLOSED SESSION ITEM TO FINISH, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE RECONVENING AT 7:00 PM AND FOR THE WORK SESSION ITEMS GOT A LITTLE CHANGE IN OUR AGENDA. 
          THE SIXTH, SIXTH A, WHICH IS PRESENTED, DISCUSS THE WORK SESSION, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AT STATE COUNCIL MEETINGS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THAT TO A LATER MEETING. 
          AND SIX B PRESENTED DISCUSSING THE ADDISON AIRPORT YEAR TO DATE REPORT THROUGH THE THIRD QUARTER FISCAL YEAR 2025. 
          UH, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, JUST PUSH THAT ONE COMPLETELY AND THAT REPORT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU IF YOU, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU TO REVIEW AT YOUR, AT YOUR LEISURE, UH, COUNSEL. 
          AND SO WE'LL 
          [c.  Present and discuss an update regarding the Fiscal Year 2026 Proposed Budget.]
GO RIGHT INTO ITEM SIX C, WHICH IS PRESENTED AND DISCUSSED AN UPDATE REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          STEVEN GL. 
          UH, GOOD EVENING HERE, COUNCIL STEVEN GL, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. 
          AND, UH, WE MET LAST TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY AND SPENT, UH, SOME QUALITY TIME TOGETHER ABOUT EIGHT, EIGHT OR NINE HOURS GOING OVER THE ENTIRETY, THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          UH, SO THERE WAS A COUPLE OF ITEMS, UH, OF DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL 
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HAD, UH, FOR STAFF, UH, RESULTING FROM THAT MEETING. 
          UH, SO I HAVE SOME UPDATED INFORMATION FOR YOU IN THIS PRESENTATION. 
          SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE THE CHANGES FROM THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. 
          SO, UH, DISCUSSING CASE ADDISON, UH, AND THE REVENUE PROJECTION BASED ON, UH, THAT DISCUSSION COUNCIL DIRECTION, UH, WAS TO, TO IMPLEMENT A MORE AGGRESSIVE REVENUE GENERATION APPROACH. 
          UH, SO THAT, UH, RESULTS IN INCREASED OVERALL CASE STATUS AND REV, UH, REVENUE OF, UH, 140,000 AND IT REDUCES THAT NET INVESTMENT AMOUNT, UH, FOR CASE STATUS AND DOWN TO 465,400. 
          AND THEN THERE WERE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT WERE IN, UH, MISSED IN A PHASE APPROACH, UH, FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE, UH, ADDISON PUR PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. 
          UH, SO THAT DECISION PACKAGE WAS, UH, CHANGED FROM A THREE YEAR PLAN TO A ONE YEAR PLAN. 
          SO, UH, THOSE PROJECTS WERE INCLUDED, UH, NOW IN THE FISCAL YEAR, YEAR 2026 BUDGET. 
          SO THAT UPDATED THAT DECISION PACKAGE FOR 2026 FROM 228,000 TO 685,000. 
          WHILE WE'RE ON THAT SLIDE. 
          YES. 
          DAVID, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS OR DISCUSSIONS ON TASTE ADDISON? ARE WE GONNA BRING THAT BACK AROUND AND TALK AGAIN ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE? NOT BASED ON COUNSEL'S DIRECTION PREVIOUSLY? Y'ALL CAN ALWAYS ASK FOR THAT CONVERSATION, BUT BASED ON THE LAST CONVERSATION WE HAD DIRECTION BEFORE THE STATUS AND WITH THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE. 
          OKAY. 
          I THOUGHT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BRINGING THAT BACK AROUND AGAIN. 
          I THOUGHT WE DID TOO. 
          Y'ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT BACK ON. 
          THIS IS SOMEBODY'S DISCUSSION YOU CAN TALK ABOUT, ABOUT THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF NOW IS THE TIME TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          I, I THINK I WANT TO HAVE MORE DETAILED CONVERSATION ON, ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT CHANGES WE CAN MAKE, UM, IDEAS FROM ABBY THAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT. 
          WELL, WE'RE PUTTING A BUDGET TOGETHER. 
          WE NEED TO KNOW IF WE'RE DOING TASTE IN THE BUDGET, WE GOT DIRECTION AND THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW. 
          WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A PLACEHOLDER, THE 4 65. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE OWE IT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION. 
          SO I MEAN, WE CAN APPROVE THE BUDGET AS IT IS WITH THE 4 65 AND THEN COME BACK AROUND AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS LATER ABOUT WHAT THAT EVENT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN 26. 
          IF THERE WERE FOUR VOTES TO DO, THEN WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE THEN IF WE CAN, SINCE WE'RE HERE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS SLIDE. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MORE AGGRESSIVE APPROACH AND MORE REVENUE. 
          SOMEONE NEEDS TO STILL CONVINCE ME THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ALL THIS FOR THREE FOR, AND WE CAN'T GET TO 40 RESTAURANTS TO BE INVOLVED. 
          HOW ARE WE GONNA GET MORE INVOLVED IF WE'RE CHARGING THEM FOR BOOST AND WE'RE TAKING A PERCENTAGE OF THE REVENUE? HOW? I MEAN, DRIVING REVENUE UP LOOKS LIKE A A THAT'S IF EVERYONE THAT THAT DID IT THIS YEAR FOR FREE AGREED TO PAY FOR IT. 
          SO, UH, I I DON'T WANT TO, I PERSONALLY, WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR OR LAST WEEK THAT WE, THEY HAVE A THREE YEAR PLAN AND WE WANNA WAIT THREE MORE YEARS BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING. 
          THERE'S SOME OF US IN THIS ROOM THAT PROBABLY WON'T BE HERE IN THREE YEARS. 
          I DON'T WANT TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. 
          I WANT TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR FIXING IT HERE AND NOT PUSH THE CAN, NOT PUSH IT ON SOMEONE ELSE TO MAKE THAT DECISION. 
          AND THESE NUMBERS JUST DON'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. 
          I'M LEARNING SOME OF THESE WORDS THAT WE USE IN HERE AS FAR AS THE WORD INVESTMENT THAT REALLY MEANS LOSS. 
          UM, AND JUST BECAUSE WE, WE THROW A NUMBER ON THE BOARD THAT IF EVERYONE THAT TAKES PART PAYS FOR WHAT THEY WOULDN'T DO LAST YEAR FOR FREE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. 
          IT, IN ITS CURRENT STATE, IT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. 
          AND I, I I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT AND TO HAVE A DEEPER CONVERSATION ON THAT. 
          IT HAS TO LOOK, YOU KNOW, I, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, ABBY. 
          I THINK YOU'RE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB. 
          AMEN. 
          AND YOU'RE, YOU'VE DONE EXTREMELY CREATIVE. 
          I, I THINK YOU SHOWED UP AND YOU WERE TASKED WITH HAVING A FOOD FESTIVAL, AND I'M JUST NOT SURE THE CURRENT MODEL WORKS, YOU KNOW, HUGE INVESTMENT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE ENTERTAINMENT. 
          WE'RE AT A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          I THINK WE'VE SEEN THAT EVEN INCREASED ATTENDANCE. 
          WE, WITH THIS CURRENT MODEL, YOU, YOU CAN'T, WE'RE NOT TAKING ENOUGH MONEY OFF THE ATTENDANCE TO REALLY MAKE IT WORK. 
          IF WE DID THE REVENUE SHARE, I AGREE, I'D WORRY THAT WE WOULD LOSE RESTAURANTS. 
          UM, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A BETTER WAY OUT THERE TO SPOTLIGHT OUR RESTAURANTS. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY THE CONVERSATION I 
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WANT TO HAVE. 
          AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT TONIGHT. 
          REINVENT IT. 
          I THINK IT'S, I I THINK IT'S, IT WAS A GREAT IDEA, BUT I THINK NOW WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS COSTS HAVE RISEN. 
          THERE'S MORE COMPETITION. 
          WE USED TO BE THE ONLY FOOD FESTIVAL IN TOWN, AND IT WAS EASY TO GET 40 OR 50,000 PEOPLE. 
          WE HAD 16,000 PEOPLE LAST YEAR. 
          AND THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING BETTER THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH TO DO WHAT IT WAS MEANT TO DO IN HIGHLIGHT THE RESTAURANTS. 
          AGREED. 
          I HAVE A SUGGESTION TO SOMETHING BETTER. 
          I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT FIVE MINUTES, IT'S KIND OF LONG. 
          BUT BASICALLY IT'S A CONCEPT OF INSTEAD OF IT BEING A FOOD FESTIVAL AS IT IS, WE DON'T ACTIVATE THE PARK. 
          WE DON'T SPEND THE MONEY ACTIVATING, WE DON'T HIRE ANY BANDS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE STAFF WORK IT, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE POLICE, UH, SECURE IT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN QUORUM AND P**S OFF ALL THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE UP AND DOWN QUORUM AND HAVE TO GIVE UP THEIR WEEKLY REVENUE OR WEEKEND REVENUE. 
          AND THIS IS AN ADVERTISING PLAN. 
          AND THE PLAN IS WE GET THE, THE BUSINESSES, THE BUY INTO IT. 
          WE CALL ON EACH BUSINESSES BUSINESS. 
          WE ASK THEM FOR 500 TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER RESTAURANT. 
          THIS IS JUST PRELIMINARY. 
          IF YOU GET A THOUSAND DOLLARS, THERE'S 200 RESTAURANTS. 
          WE GOT 200,000. 
          THE TOWN MATCHES WHATEVER WE RAISE FROM THE NCE NOW, I MEAN RESTAURANTS, WE HAVE 400,000. 
          WE SPEND THE MONEY WITH A-B-C-N-B-C-C-B-S DRIVING TRAFFIC TO OUR WEBSITE OF TASTE OF ADDISON. 
          WE WANT TO KEEP THE NAME. 
          AND THEY GO TO THAT WEBPAGE AND THERE'S A QR CODE ON THE TV SCREEN, AND WE'RE FEATURING RESTAURANTS, DIFFERENT ONES IN EVERY APP. 
          AND THEY GO TO THE QR CODE. 
          AND ON THAT PAGE, IT'S GOT TASTE OF MADISON AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESTAURANTS, MEXICAN FOOD, ITALIAN FOOD, ASIAN AMERICAN HAMBURGERS, BREAKFAST, WHATEVER CATEGORY WE WANT TO CALL IT. 
          EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATES HAS A LINK. 
          WHEN YOU CLICK ON BURGERS, IT TAKES YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT OFFERS BURGERS. 
          AND THEY'RE ALL THERE WITH THEIR, THEIR NAME AND WHAT THEIR SPECIAL IS FOR THIS WEEKEND OR THIS WEEK OR THIS MONTH. 
          AND THEY CLICK ON THAT AND IT TAKES 'EM TO THEIR PAGE AND THEY PROMOTE THEMSELVES. 
          AND WE DRIVE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, OR AT LEAST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS TO THIS WEBPAGE, HAVE COME TO ADDISON AND TASTE OUR RESTAURANTS AND SAVE 20% OFF TO HALF PRICE WINE, BUY ONE ENTREE, GET ONE FREE. 
          UM, WHATEVER YOU SPEND, YOU GET A COUPON FOR 20% TO COME BACK FOR A SECOND VISA. 
          WE PUT BUTS IN THE SEATS OF THE RESTAURANTS INSTEAD OF HAVING PEOPLE COME OR LISTEN TO THESE VANS FOR FREE. 
          BUT I PERSONALLY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANY OF THOSE. 
          SO I THINK WE COULD SPEND WAY LESS THAN 4 65 AND HAVE A MUCH BETTER EVENT. 
          AND ONCE WE BUILD THE WEBSITE OUT, IT COULD BE UP ALL YEAR AND THE PARTICIPANTS JUST GO IN AND CHANGE WHATEVER THEIR OFFER IS OR WHAT THEIR PAGE IS. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S NOT A LOT OF WORK. 
          IT'S A DIFFERENT WORK AND IT'S JUST AN IDEA. 
          AND THERE'S OTHER IDEAS. 
          I THINK TASTE IS ON ITS COURSE. 
          MY BUSINESS RAN ITS COURSE, AND I HAD TO CALL, IT WAS NOT EASY, FELT LIKE I UNPLUGGED THE LIFE SUPPORT ON ONE OF MY KIDS, BUT IT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION. 
          AND TASTE IS NOT WORKING. 
          AND I'M SORRY, I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE IT. 
          SO THIS IS JUST AN IDEA. 
          THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM I IDEAS THAT MONEY COULD BE REDIRECTED INTO SOMETHING , WE'VE LOST ALMOST $3 MILLION IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS, CAN BE REDIRECTED TO A BETTER COST. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE UP THE WORD. 
          I MEAN TASTE V WE COULD STILL CALL IT THAT. 
          YOU'RE JUST DOING A WEBSITE, HOWARD. 
          NO, NO, I'M PROMOTING. 
          WELL, YOU'VE DONE A WEBSITE THAT YOU'RE PROMOTING IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS. 
          HOW, HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE ADVERTISING TAKES AS IT IS NOW? UM, MARY MIGHT HAVE THAT FIGURED, I HAVE OUR IN KIND FIGURE FOR ONE FIVE THAT WHAT THE NUMBER THAT SHE HAD WITH PAID ADVERTISING IN KIND ADVERTISING THAT WE SECURED, THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND ONE DIME ON WAS 121,500. 
          WHAT MARY SPENT ON THAT FOR THE MARKETING BUDGET WAS ABOUT EQUAL TO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS, THIS PLAN DOESN'T DO MUCH FOR THE HOTELS. 
          SO, SO IT DOESN'T COVER THAT ASPECT. 
          BUT THIS IS JUST AN IDEA. 
          AND I'VE GOT ALL THE DETAILS HERE. 
          THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE. 
          WE'VE GOT A LOT ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY. 
          BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS CASE AND DECIDE DO WE WANT TO KEEP DOING IT OR IS THERE ENOUGH INTEREST TO TRY AND GO A DIFFERENT PROPERTY? YES. 
          MAYOR, IF I MAY, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HOTEL FUNDS, IT HAS TO AFFECT THE HOTELS. 
          SO IT CAN'T BE, UM, THIS MONEY HAS TO BE, BE USED FOR TOURISM TO GENERATE STAYS IN THE HOTELS. 
          SO IF THIS MONEY'S GONNA BE REALLOCATED INTO SOME OTHER TYPE VENTURE, WHICH I'M NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT IS NOT A WORTHWHILE THING, 
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JUST KNOW THAT THIS MONEY IS RESTRICTED FOR USE, THAT WE HAVE TO USE THAT TO GENERATE HOTEL STAYS. 
          OKAY. 
          I STILL THINK YOU CAN DO IT. 
          I MEAN, I THINK YOU COULD PROMOTE IT AS A A, A WEEKEND FESTIVAL OR MAYBE A WHOLE WEEK AND ONE DAY IT'S COCKTAILS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, ONE DAY IT'S BURGERS, ONE DAY IT'S ENTREE. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW. 
          AND MAYBE YOU CAN DO A ABANDONED ONE OF THE PARKING LOTS TO ATTRACT FOLKS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND MAYBE IT'S A TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY THING AND WE DO IT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE MONTH. 
          BECAUSE IF THEIR SEAT'S ALREADY FULL ON THE WEEKEND, WHY SHOULD THEY GIVE UP DOLLARS TO FILL UP SEATS THAT ARE ALREADY FULL? MAYBE WE FILL UP THE SEATS THAT AREN'T FULL. 
          BUT YOU STILL CAN'T USE HOTEL FUNDS FOR THAT. 
          USE THE HOTEL FUND. 
          WE'D HAVE TO USE DIFFERENT MONEY. 
          WELL, WELL, WELL, BUT WHY COULDN'T WE? BECAUSE IT, BECAUSE NOBODY, NOBODY'S GONNA COME IN TO GET A COCKTAIL TO AND STAY IN A HOTEL AND GET A COCKTAIL WHERE THEY LIVE. 
          I I, I THINK IF WE, IF WE DID IT AS A, A FESTIVAL, LIKE A WEEKEND FESTIVAL FO FOCUSED ON A WEEK, WEEK A WEEK FESTIVAL FOCUSED ON, YOU KNOW, BELTLINE TO, YOU KNOW, A VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, YOU KNOW, ADD SOME ENTERTAINMENT, UM, I DON'T SEE WHY YOU COULDN'T OFFER HOTEL PACKAGES AND, YOU KNOW, LET PEOPLE WALK FROM ADDISON WALK TO THE HOTEL ON QUORUM. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT, IT'S JUST AN IDEA. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DO IS JUST TRY TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED. 
          SO WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE LAID OUT, HEY, WE, I THINK IN THE PRESENTATIONS LAST WEEK, WE WERE VERY HONEST ABOUT THE CONCERNS AND THE ISSUES WITH TASTE. 
          WE LAID OUT OUR BEST PATH FORWARD WITH TASTE. 
          IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PROPOSAL, WE CAN BRING 'EM BACK UP. 
          WE CAN GO FOR FORWARD WITH 'EM. 
          THE QUESTION FOR COUNSEL IS, DO YOU IN THE BUDGET NEXT YEAR, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE TASTE AND THE WAY WE LAID IT OUT, OR DO YOU NOT? IF YOU DON'T AND YOU WANT OTHER OPTIONS, WE'LL BRING 'EM BACK. 
          BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION IF WE'RE DOING TASTE NEXT YEAR MM-HMM . 
          WE CAN'T PUN IT OFF FOR TWO MORE MONTHS. 
          CAN CAN WE BRING UP THE NEXT SLIDE? SO THIS, THIS ONE YEAH. 
          THESE ARE THE DETAILS OF, OF TASTE. 
          AND WE BUDGETED TO BRING IN THREE 90, UH, 650. 
          AND WE BROUGHT IN 3 92. 
          SO WE HAD A HUGE MISS. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? SO IF WE BUDGET TO BRING IN 6 25 THIS YEAR AND WE, UH, BRING IN 3 92, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER HUGE MISS. 
          I DON'T DISAGREE THAT IT CAN BE, UH, CHANGED WHOLLY REIMAGINED. 
          I DON'T REALLY LIKE HOWARD'S IDEA BECAUSE THAT'S JUST A WEBSITE, BUT THAT'S OKAY. 
          HOWARD, I'M GLAD YOU THOUGHT OF SOMETHING. 
          I KNOW, I'M, I MEAN, YOU DO THINK OF THINGS, UM, MY, FOR THE BUDGET SAKE OF BUDGET NOW WE, WE GO WITH THE NUMBER, WE PUT A NUMBER DOWN AND THEN WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA IN SEPTEMBER OR WHATEVER THE NEXT, AND, AND THIS IS A BIG DEAL THAT WE'VE GOTTA GET MOVING ON. 
          WE EITHER LEAVE TASTE AT IT AS IT IS BEHIND AND REDO IT, UH, OR WE EVOLVE IT AND TRY TO DRIVE THE REVENUE. 
          BUT WE'VE GOTTA HAVE A NUMBER THAT WE, UH, AGREE ON TIME. 
          BUT THE EVENT IS EVOLVING. 
          IT'S EVOLVED FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS AND THERE, AND THERE'S A PLAN TO CONTINUE EVOLVING. 
          WELL, I BELIEVE MY, MY WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW IS TO KEEP THAT PLAN AND HAVE IT RUN AND, AND MONITOR IT AND SET THE EXPECTATIONS. 
          AND MEASURE THE EXPECTATIONS. 
          AND IF IT JUST CONTINUES TO GO LIKE THAT, THEN YOU PULL THE PLUG QUICKLY. 
          THAT'S, I MEAN, I'M NOT, I'M NOT KICKING IT DOWN THE ROAD. 
          IT'S BEEN GOING DOWN LIKE THAT FOR YEARS. 
          BUT YOU GOTTA LOOK AT THE CONTEXT. 
          YOU'VE HAD COVID, YOU'VE HAD ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE WAY YOU'VE HAD A CHANGING LANDSCAPE AND COMPETITION. 
          WE GOTTA CHANGE IT STAFF. 
          YOU'VE GOT A BRAND NEW EVENT DIRECTOR THAT IS, THAT IS PURPOSELESS FOR THIS, I MEAN, DOES DOES THIS VERY WELL. 
          AND MANY OF THE INDICATORS HAVE GONE UP AND YOU'RE NEW TO THE PARTY, SO YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW ALL THE HISTORY OF IT. 
          WELL, DON'T USE THAT. 
          WELL, DON'T KNOW TO THE INSIDE OF THE PARTY. 
          BUT YOU CANNOT TAKE THAT ARGUMENT TO ANY BANK AND SAY, I KNOW I'VE LOST MONEY FOR 10 YEARS, BUT I GOT THIS NEW BUSINESS PLAN IN THE NEXT THREE, I'M GONNA TURN IT AROUND. 
          AND WE ARE THE BANK, WE ARE THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE. 
          PRECISELY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IF YOU, I'M TURNING IT DOWN, AND IF YOU KILL THE PLAN TOO EARLY, THEN THAT'S A POOR CHOICE. 
          THAT'S A POOR INVESTMENT TOO EARLY. 
          HOW LONG DOES IT HAVE TO LOSE MONEY? HEY GUYS, NO, YEAR TWO OF RETOOL. 
          OH, YEAR ONE. 
          REALLY. 
          I KNOW. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK. 
          WE DID. 
          UM, AND WHEN I'M TODAY'S POINT, WE GOTTA MAKE A DECISION. 
          IT'S ABOUT THE BUDGET IS ARE WE GONNA HAVE THIS IN THE BUDGET OR NOT? I I THOUGHT WE ALREADY DISCUSSED IT. 
          I THOUGHT WE DID TOO. 
          WE ALREADY CHANGED IT TO WHAT? AND TO THAT AND FOUR OF US. 
          THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE TOO. 
          SO THAT WOULDN SAY SIMILAR FORMAT. 
          NO, WE'RE JUST REHASHING. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU CAN WATCH THE VIDEO FROM LAST MEETING IF YOU NEED TO. 
          THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE DID TOO. 
          WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, BUT CHRIS BROUGHT UP THE IDEA, HEY, LET'S, LET'S, UH, IN 
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THE FUTURE SOMETIME LET'S HAVE A AGENDA ITEM AND, AND OFFER THAT. 
          IT'S A VALID DISCUSSION. 
          AND, AND I'M, I'M NOT CLOSE-MINDED TO THAT. 
          I'M, I'M OPEN-MINDED TO THAT. 
          BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, ABBY'S UH, WORKING, WORKING NEXT YEAR'S EVENT ALREADY. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S STUFF, I MEAN THERE'S STUFF GOING. 
          I MEAN, SHE'S, HER GROUP IS ALREADY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT WORKING. 
          UM, I WENT INTO CANTEEN LAREDO, UH, A COUPLE OVER THE WEEKEND AND THEY SAID, HEY, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT A MEETING ON TUESDAY, ARE YOU GONNA BE THERE? AND I SAID, NO, I'M NOT, NOT INVOLVED. 
          BUT, BUT I MEAN, THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING FOR NEXT YEAR'S EVENT. 
          UM, BUT SO I I I THINK WE HAVE APPROVED IT FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          BUT, BUT I AM, I'M DEFINITELY OPEN FOR, FOR LIKE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO BEYOND THAT OR SOMETHING. 
          MAYBE SOME OTHER, UH, THING WE NEED TO BE, BE DOING. 
          THAT'S FAIR. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT WAS THE FIRST THING I SAID. 
          I KNOW THAT WE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          I KNOW FOUR PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF THE 4 65 MM-HMM . 
          THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT IT UP, BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. 
          OH, I PERFECTLY GOOD HAVING, WHEN WE DID THAT EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER, WE CAN KEEP HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS JUST AS FAR AS WHAT ARE WE GONNA PUT IN THE BUDGET AND HOW DO WE GET STAFF ION MOVING FORWARD. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO START WITH. 
          THE ON. 
          WELL, I'M GOOD WITH THE FIRST NUMBER THAT WE PUT IN THE BUDGET AND HOW WE HAVE STAFF MOVING FORWARD FROM THIS PARTICULAR MEETING. 
          I'D LIKE MORE DEFINITION AROUND THAT. 
          I MEAN, I'M, I'M OF THE BELIEF MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLAN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK. 
          OKAY, WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY FOR A HEADLINER? WE GO TO THESE BUSINESSES AND WE LOSE BUSINESSES 'CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY THE BOOTH FEE OR THE PERSON WHO'S HAVE TO GIVE UP. 
          WE CAN'T GET NEW PEOPLE TO SIGN UP AND WE'RE GONNA SPEND OVER A MILLION DOLLARS AND HOPE TO GAIN ENOUGH REVENUE TO END UP AT 4 65 MORE. 
          WE LOSING 6 65. 
          WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? WE JUST LOST ANOTHER 200. 
          HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? I MEAN, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN PUT A BUDGET IN THERE LIKE THAT AND ALL THEY COULD SPEND IS 4 65 THEN THAT'S THE MOST WE COULD LOSE. 
          BUT THEY CAN'T PUT THE ON. 
          WELL, I, I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE WERE PRETTY CLEAR LAST WEEK THAT EXACTLY, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          WE DON'T, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST. 
          WE'RE DOING OUR BEST HERE. 
          WE ACTUALLY SAY, HEY, MAYBE A BASE APPROACH WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS SOON AS WE CAN. 
          SO TO, UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT MAY NOT HAVE, IT MAY COME IN LOWER AND THEN, THEN THAT WILL, THAT WILL BE ANOTHER POLICY CONVERSATION OF WHAT WE DO IN THE FUTURE. 
          I'M NOT, I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE, THE EFFORT. 
          THE EFFORT'S BEEN A THOUSAND PERCENT. 
          YES. 
          YOUR EFFORT, THE STAFF'S EFFORT. 
          THIS LADY'S EFFORT, ABBY, NOBODY COULD DO BETTER THAN THAT. 
          I THINK THE EVENT IS A PROBLEM. 
          I KNOW I'M BEATING A DEAD HORSE. 
          I DON'T CARE IF YOU LIKE THIS IDEA OR NOT. 
          I WILL TELL YOU, I GOT 26 FURNITURE STORES AT 26 TO DO THIS EXACT PROGRAM. 
          AND IT WAS A HOME RUN. 
          EVERY ONE OF THOSE STORES DID EXTREMELY WELL AND IT WAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT IDEA. 
          WE HAD COMPETITORS WORKING TOGETHER. 
          WE CALLED IT CO-OPETITION AND WE ALL WORKED TOGETHER TO DESIGN THE EVENT. 
          WE NEED THE INPUT FROM THE RESTAURANTS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK. 
          YOU STILL BUSINESS. 
          I THINK THAT CAN, THAT CAN DO THAT. 
          IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT, SORRY, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PART OF THAT DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE DOWN THE ROAD. 
          OKAY. 
          TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          I THINK WE HAVE TO THINK OUTSIDE. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS IS JUST ONE. 
          YEAH, I HAVE TO AGREE, DAN. 
          BARE MINIMUM, WE GET RID OF ADVANCE. 
          DAN, WHERE ARE YOU ON THIS? YEAH, IT GOES BACK TO WHAT I DISCUSSED LAST WEEK. 
          I STILL DON'T THINK WE'RE PUSHING HARD ENOUGH ON SOME OF THE IDEAS WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK ABOUT REVENUE GENERATION TO CUT INTO THE POTENTIAL WHAT IFS. 
          A LOT OF THOSE WHAT IFS. 
          I STILL DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE DERIVING ENOUGH ON THE ADMISSION PRICE. 
          I DON'T THINK WE, I THINK WE SHOULD CREATIVELY HAVE IT READY FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          THERE'S A SPEED PASS FOR FOOD LANDING. 
          I STILL THINK WE SHOULD BE GIVING UP THE VIP CONCEPT FOR PEOPLE WHO WANNA PAY AN UPGRADE. 
          AND THAT'S NOT FACTORED INTO THIS UNLESS I'M WRONG, ABBY. 
          UNLESS IT'S S NOT FACTORED IN. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT FACTORED IN TO THE POTENTIAL. 
          BECAUSE BACK TO DARREN'S POINT OR RANDY'S POINT IS THE, WHAT IF WE MISS OUR BUDGET AND WE'RE OFF, LIKE RANDY JUST SAID, OR HOWARD JUST SAID ANOTHER COUPLE HUNDRED K, I'D LIKE TO SEE US PUSH THE ENVELOPE THE OTHER WAY. 
          I THINK WE ARE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WHAT THESE, THESE, THESE FOLKS THAT COME INTO THIS FESTIVAL, THEY DO NOT ALL LIVE IN ADDISON. 
          SO WE HAVE GOT TO UP THE TICKET PRICES. 
          EVERYTHING IN LIFE IS MORE EXPENSIVE AND I JUST THINK WE'RE SOFT AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE OFFERING THE AMENITIES THAT COULD BE DONE TOMORROW MORNING IN PLANNING IN SESSION TO GIVE UP A VIP PARKING AREA. 
          VIP ACCESS TO THE BAND OR BANDS PLURAL. 
          I IS SOMETHING OF THOSE NATURES DON'T COST MONEY, THEY JUST TAKE PLANNING. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I ASKED ABOUT LAST WEEK. 
          AND I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE PACKAGE THIS WEEK. 
          SO AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS THAT IS CONSIDERED FOR 2026, I CAN BITE OFF ON THE BUDGET WE TALKED ABOUT. 
          I WAS ONE OF THOSE FOUR PEOPLE, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT THOSE IDEAS ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED FOR 2026. 
          SOME THOSE IDEAS ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED 
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FOR 2026. 
          HEY, SO, SO DAN, YEAH. 
          AND THEN THE PROPOSAL THAT WE CAME GAVE LAST WEEK ON WEDNESDAY AFTER THE INITIAL CONVERSATION, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING. 
          YOU'RE SEEING INCREASE EMISSION PRICES, NEW AND DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCES, NEW DIFFERENT REVENUE STREAMS. ALL EVERYTHING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE ADMISSION PRICES ARE GOING UP AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE OPTIONS FOR DIFFERENT REVENUE STREAMS. BUT WE'LL LOOK AT THOSE OPTIONS FOR REVENUE STREAMS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA IF THOSE COULD BE IMPLEMENTED. 
          CAN CONCRETELY, WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY COULD BE CONCRETELY IMPLEMENTED FOR 26, IMPLEMENTED FOR 26. 
          THE, THE YES. 
          THEY WILL BE CONCRETELY IM IMPLEMENTED. 
          I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE FAST PASS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE OR WHAT THE, BUT THOSE CONCEPTS WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. 
          WE WILL HAVE DIFFERENT REVENUE STREAMS IN THE BUDGET. 
          I'M IN AGREEANCE. 
          I CAN SIGN OFF ON THIS YEAR'S PLANS AND MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND THEN WITH HARD, HARD HANDCUFFING FOR 2027 OR 28 PLANNING BACK TO WHAT CHRIS OR HOWARD ARE ASKING, IS REINVENTING THIS CASE ADDISON, BASED OFF OF WHAT HAPPENS IN 26, WHAT HAPPENS IN 26? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU DAN. 
          STEVEN, YOU WANNA MOVE, MOVE FORWARD. 
          MOVING ON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, HERE'S A NEW SUMMARY OF THE HOTEL FUND. 
          UM, SO, UH, WHAT CHANGED? UH, THE REVENUE HERE, UH, CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. 
          THERE WAS $140,000 DIFFERENCE, UM, GOING FURTHER DOWN THE ONE TIME DECISION PACKAGES, UH, THOSE WERE INCREASED THERE, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE FOR ALL OF THE THEATER CENTER IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UH, SO THAT LEADS US, UH, WITH ABOUT $4.9 MILLION IN RESERVE OR ABOUT 64.3% OF OUR OPERATING, UH, EXPENDITURES IN FUND BALANCE. 
          AND THEN, UH, GOING FORWARD TO OUR TENURE PERCEPTION, I THINK, UM, SOMEONE WAS INTERESTED IN THIS. 
          IT MAY HAVE BEEN, UH, DARREN, MAYBE. 
          I THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE THIS, THIS, UH, SO ACTUALLY IT LOOKS A LITTLE BETTER THAN IT DID, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING UP ESSENTIALLY $140,000 IN REVENUE, UH, FRONT LOADED, UH, THAT GREEN, UH, MOUNTAIN. 
          THERE IS THAT, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THERE TO THE ADDISON THEATER CENTER. 
          UM, AND THEN THAT $140,000 IN REVENUE, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER 10 YEARS GENERATES, UM, MORE RESERVES THAN, THAN WHAT HAPPENED, UH, WITHOUT THAT. 
          SO ALL THE OTHER ASSUMPTIONS ARE THE SAME, UH, THAT WERE PRESENTED AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. 
          UH, AND THEN, UH, SO THAT WAS IT FOR THE HOTEL FUND. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT HOTEL? NOT, UH, WE DID HAVE A SLIGHT RECALCULATION FROM THE DALLAS COUNTY TAX OFFICE, UH, ON THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE. 
          SO, UH, WHAT WE PRESENTED, UH, IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET AT THE WORKSHOP WAS, UH, 65.4287. 
          UH, THEY ADJUSTED THAT SLIGHTLY. 
          SO IT'S ACTUALLY 65.3647. 
          IT'S, UH, SIX 1000TH OF, OF A PENNY. 
          SO, SO NOT A VERY BIG CHANGE, BUT JUST KNOW THAT IN OUR, IN OUR, IN ALL OF OUR ADVERTISEMENTS AND GOING FORWARD, THAT WOULD BE THE, THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE. 
          UH, NO CHANGE WITH THAT. 
          NO REVENUE, NET REVENUE RATE CALCULATION. 
          UM, AND THEN THE ADOPTED AND PROPOSED RATE, UH, IS PRESENTED THERE AS WELL. 
          YOU KNOW, THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS, WE'VE NOT TALKED ABOUT THE TAX RATE. 
          WE'VE JUST ASSUMED THAT WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE SAME PROPERTY TAX RATE THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PRESENTATION. 
          I WOULD'VE REALLY LIKE TO HAVE HAD A VERY THOROUGH DISCUSSION ON OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR OUR, FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESSES. 
          I THINK THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE WAY THAT WE DRIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          DALLAS, MY GOD, WE DON'T EVEN WANNA PUT OURSELVES IN DALLAS'S CATEGORY. 
          DALLAS LOWERED THEIR TAX RATE THIS YEAR. 
          AND WE'RE NOT LOWERING, IF WE'RE NOT LOWERING OUR TAX RATE, WE ARE IN EFFECT GIVING OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESSES A TAX INCREASE WITH VALUES GOING UP. 
          THERE IS NO REASON THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE LOWERING THE PROPERTY TAX RATE. 
          THEY, WE DESERVE TO LOWER THE PROPERTY TAX RATE ON THESE PEOPLE. 
          UM, WE TALK ABOUT COMPARATIVE CITIES. 
          WE ONLY TALK ABOUT COMPARATIVE CITIES WHEN IT'S IN OUR FAVOR ON WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO, NOT WHEN WE'RE WANTING TO HELP OUR PEOPLE, OUR RESIDENTS, AND OUR BUSINESSES. 
          WE'RE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST ON TAXES. 
          WE'VE GOT TO LOWER THOSE TAXES ON OUR PEOPLE. 
          WE ARE PRICING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOUSES WITH TAXES. 
          THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO LOWER OUR PROPERTY TAXES TO GET TAXES LOWERED. 
          AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE 
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NOT DOING THEIR PART TO HELP. 
          AND THAT'S WHY THE STATE IS HAVING TO DO IT. 
          THERE'S NO REASON WE SHOULDN'T LOWER OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS 50 PLUS ONE ON OUR ON ON SALARIES, WE SHOULD HAVE A 50 MINUS ONE ON TAX RATE. 
          IT'S A SIMPLE PROCESS. 
          OUR PEOPLE HAVE NOT HAD A TAX BREAK IN YEARS. 
          THEY DESERVE ONE. 
          AND THE WASTEFUL SPENDING THAT I SEE IN THIS BUDGET IS, IS THE WAY WE LOWER THE TAX CUTS. 
          WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING ACROSS THIS BOARD AND TAKE EVERYTHING INTO ACCOUNT. 
          TO ME IT'S A BACKWARDS PROCESS. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THESE WISHLISTS AND ADD THE MONEY UP AND SAYING, WELL THIS IS WHAT WE GOTTA HAVE RATHER THAN CELEBRATE. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT WE GOT AND THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN SPEND. 
          WE'VE GOTTA HELP THE PEOPLE. 
          THAT'S WHAT OUR JOB IS TO PROTECT, FOR, PROTECT THEIR VALUES AND THEIR, AND THEIR MONEY. 
          SO ON THE PROPERTY TAX RATE YES SIR. 
          THE ENTIRE GENERAL FUND DISCUSSION IS A PROPERTY TAX DISCUSSION. 
          PARDON? THE ENTIRE GENERAL FUND DISCUSSION WAS A PROPERTY TAX DISCUSSION SO THAT ANYTIME WE CAN TALK, WE CAN, RIGHT NOW I'LL TALK ABOUT A PROPERTY TAX RATE AND THE GENERAL FUND, WE BASICALLY HAD ONE DECISION PACKAGE WE WENT THROUGH AND WE MADE EFFICIENCIES AND WE CUT AND WE'RE DOING THE POLICE AND FIRE STEP PLAN. 
          ESSENTIALLY. 
          THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THAT AND COMPENSATION INCREASES FOR CITY EMPLOYEES OR WHERE A TAX CHANGE WOULD COME TO ALL OF THOSE CAP, THOSE ONETIME, THOSE ONETIME CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          THOSE ARE COMING FROM ONE TIME FUNDS. 
          THOSE ARE CERTAINLY WORTHWHILE IF WE ARE TO DISCUSS SHOULD YOU DO 'EM OR NOT. 
          BUT IF YOU WANNA LOWER THE TAX RATE, WE CAN PULL THAT UP AND YOU CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHERE YOU'RE GONNA DO IT. 
          WELL THAT'S WHERE THAT, THERE'S THE PART THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID HERE AND I'VE WATCHED ALL THESE PRESENTATIONS AND I'VE LOOKED AT 300 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS TO REMODEL OUTDOOR BATHROOMS AT SWIMMING POOLS AND REDO LIGHTS AND FENCING AND ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT, THAT ARE NOT AFFECTING PEOPLE'S LIVES. 
          AND WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T SPENT 30 SECONDS ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE TAX RATE. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT, THE WHOLE PROCESS HAS BEEN ABOUT THE TAX RATE, BUT HAD IT HAS JUST BEEN ASSUMED THIS IS WHAT THE TAX RATE IS GOING TO BE, THERE WOULD, WE SHOULD HAVE STARTED, IN MY OPINION, WE SHOULD HAVE STARTED THE BUDGET PROCESS BY SAYING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE TAX. 
          WHAT DO WE WANT TO HAVE AS A TAX RATE SET A TAX RATE AND THEN SEE HOW MUCH MONEY WE WERE GONNA HAVE, HOW BIG A PIE TO SLICE IT UP RATHER THAN TAKE THE PIE AND HAVE ALL THE WISHLISTS COME IN AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOTTA CHARGE PEOPLE TO PAY FOR ALL THE STUFF THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT. 
          WHY DO YOU BRING THAT UP AT THE END? BUT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR IT TO BE BROUGHT UP AND, AND WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, AT, AT THE PRESENTATIONS COMING IN OF ALL THE WISHLISTS. 
          I'VE BEEN WAITING ON THAT TO COME UP AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. 
          IF YOU WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT ME BEING NUDE, THIS IS THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT BEING NEW. 
          AGREE AS TO WHEN IS THE PROPER TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE TAX RATE. 
          AND I'M TELLING YOU, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE FIRST, BUT I WAS TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL FOR ALL THE PRESENTATIONS, ASSUMING THAT AT THE END THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO A BUDGET PROCESS AND SAY, WELL HERE'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS NOW WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? SET A TAX RATE TO DO IT WITH. 
          SO YOUR POINT'S TAKEN BEING NEW IS, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF, A LOT OF THINGS I DIDN'T KNOW AT ALL AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I STILL DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT IF WE GO INTO THE BUDGET AND THROUGH START TO STRATEGIC PLANNING THROUGH THE ANNUAL PLANNING BACK IN FEBRUARY. 
          SO PART OF THIS, LIKE ABBY, WHEN SHE INHERITED TASTE THAT FIRST YEAR YOU INHERITED, WHEN I STARTED, I INHERITED A DIRECTION COUNCIL HAD ALSO, SO IN FEBRUARY IS WE REALLY TELL THE STAFF WHAT TO BUILD A BUDGET ON. 
          AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 
          SO IF WE COME UP IN FEBRUARY OR EVEN AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS BUDGET AND SAY, HEY, WE WANNA LOWER THE TAX RATE BY 5 CENTS, THEN EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR BACKWARDS FROM THERE. 
          I MEAN THE ONLY, WE, WE HAD A HEALTHCARE INCREASE OF 7%. 
          RIGHT? EVERYONE ACROSS THE BOARD IN ALL OF THESE CITIES DID. 
          AND WE'RE THE ONLY TOWN THAT HASN'T LOWERED THE RATE. 
          SO TELL ME ABOUT DALLAS' TAX RATE. 
          HOW DID IT, HOW DID THEY LOWER IT? AREN'T THEY RUNNING IN THE RED? PARDON? AREN'T THEY RUNNING IN THE RED ALSO? I HAVE ZERO AREN'T IDEA FUNDING. 
          S ALL I KNOW IS THAT THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES ABOVE US. 
          HUGE ARTICLE IN THE PAPER YESTERDAY THAT DALLAS HAS VOTED TO LOWER THEIR TAX RATE ON. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IT WAS BECAUSE THEY, THEY CAN'T EVEN FUND THEIR PENSION AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M JUST TALKING OUT OF THE AIR ALSO. 
          SO I DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS TO BACK THAT UP. 
          BUT I I, WE, WE GIVE THE CITY MANAGER THE DIRECTION AND I THINK IT'S ASSUMED, AND THIS YEAR FOR SURE, 
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THERE IS NO INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE. 
          AND I HAD SAID THAT THROUGH, I I REMEMBER THE, THE, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY DISCUSSION EARLIER ON WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE STEP PLAN BEFORE THE BUDGET. 
          UM, SO THAT'S THE ASSUMPTION IS IT'S NOT GONNA GO UP WELL THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE DOES, OR TAX AMOUNT DOES BECAUSE OF PROPERTY TAXES, RIGHT? AND THAT'S A KIND OF A NATURAL MECHANISM FOR COST OF LIVING. 
          UH, CONSUMER PRICE INDEX INCREASED WHEN YOUR PROPERTY, UH, INCREASES IN, IN VALUE AND ALL YOUR SALARIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE DOES. 
          SO, UM, WE DIDN'T GIVE THE DIRECTION TO, TO SAVE 2 CENTS ON TAX. 
          I DO WANNA BE, THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS TO THE TAX RATE. 
          YOU KNOW THIS, SO OUR DEBT SERVICE RATE IS INCREASING MM-HMM . 
          ASSOCIATED WITH A BOND PROGRAM THAT WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS. 
          THAT IS WHAT IT IS THAT'S GOING UP. 
          IT'S NOT GOING UP AS MUCH AS WE THOUGHT. 
          NOT NEARLY AS MUCH AS WE THOUGHT. 
          'CAUSE THESE HAVE GONE UP. 
          WE'VE GOT BETTER INTEREST RATES, WE KNOW THAT OUR OPERATIONS RATES DECREASED AND WE'VE CUT MONEY FROM THE OPERATIONS AND WE'RE ADDING ESSENTIALLY ONE DECISION PACKAGE. 
          SO IF WE, THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE TAX RATE. 
          IF WE WANT TO DIG INTO, WE CAN DIG INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET, WE CAN SAY, IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, IF YOU DO THIS, LIKE, WE'RE HERE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          AND ONCE WE LISTEN TO ALL THESE PRESENTATIONS OF WHAT I HAVE MULTIPLE TIMES IN MY TALK HERE DEFINED AS WISHLIST, THAT'S WHY I'M LISTENING TO THESE TO COME BACK THEN AND LOOK AND SAY, IS THIS OUR PRIORITY? IS THIS OUR PRIORITY? AND TO THE POINT, I HAVE HEARD SO MANY BAD WASTEFUL IDEAS THAT JUST SEEM TO SLIDE RIGHT BY TEARING UP LANES OF TRAFFIC TO PUT BIKE LANES IN THAT NOBODY WANTS DISRUPTING BUSINESS, THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON TEARING ROADS UP TO PUT BIKE LANES IN PROPOSING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO SPEND ON, ON A SIDEWALK ACROSS A D WE'VE GOTTA START GETTING RID OF THE BAD IDEAS THAT COST MONEY. 
          WELL, THERE'S TWO WAYS THAT WE CAN DO A BUDGET, RIGHT? WE CAN TAKE A STEP BACK, DECIDE AS A COUNCIL WHO WE WANT TO BE, WHAT'S OUR VISION? WHO OUR RESIDENTS REALLY WANT US TO BE, RIGHT? DO WE WANT LANDSCAPING? DO YOU WANT PARKS? DO WE WANT BIKE TRAILS? DO WE WANT FIRST RESPONDERS, UM, THAT HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE BEST RESPONSE TIMES? DO WE WANNA FEEL SAFE? RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHAT WE TALK ABOUT. 
          OR WE CAN TAKE THE LAZY WAY AND WE CAN SAY, HEY, CITY MANAGER, HERE'S SOME MONEY. 
          YOU FIGURE IT OUT. 
          I WOULD MUCH RATHER ROLL UP MY SLEEVE. 
          WE ALL LIVE HERE, RIGHT? I KNOW WHY I LIVE HERE. 
          I DON'T LIVE HERE FOR A CHEAP TAX RATE. 
          I LIVE HERE BECAUSE I FEEL SAFE. 
          I LIVE HERE BECAUSE OF THE PARKS. 
          I LIVE HERE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST A GREAT PLACE TO BE. 
          THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE GET IS, IS UNMATCHED AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED ANYWHERE ELSE. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE IF YOU TALK TO OUR RESIDENTS, THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR THAT. 
          IF YOU LOOKED AT OUR GENERAL FUND, RIGHT, WHICH DRIVES THE, THE BUDGET, WHERE WOULD YOU CUT? TELL ME STEVEN, HOW MUCH OF OUR, OF OUR GENERAL FUND IS, UH, COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS? LIKE 65, 70%, 65%. 
          IT'S UP THERE. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, OF OF PLACES TO CUT. 
          WE CAN START BY NOT SPENDING MILLIONS ON TEARING ROADS UP. 
          SO THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. 
          I THINK LIKE WHEN I MOVED HERE IN 25 YEARS, EXCUSE ME, COULD YOU LET CHRIS FINISH? FIVE YEARS AGO WE HAD THE LOWEST TAX RATE IN THE STATE. 
          BRANDY CHRIS WAS SPEAKING, IF YOU LEFT, I'M OKAY. 
          I'M OKAY. 
          YOU CAN GO AHEAD. 
          I'M FINISHED. 
          WELL, I MEAN, YOU, YOU BROUGHT UP THE BIKE LANES. 
          LIKE TO ME, WE HAVE A MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT ALL OF OUR, WE HAD MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE MEETINGS WHERE ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS COULD SHOW UP AND THEY COULD DECIDE IF THEY WANTED IT OR NOT. 
          I THINK OVERWHELMINGLY PEOPLE WANT TO BE CONNECTED, RIGHT? THAT BIKE LANE, THOSE BIKE LANES WERE BUILDING, IT'S JUST ONE SMALL PIECE OF AN ENTIRE MOBILITY PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE REGION. 
          HOW EMBARRASSING WOULD IT BE IF CARROLLTON DALLAS FARMER'S BRANCH BUILT OUT THEIR BIKE LANES AND WE DIDN'T? I THINK THOSE BIKE LANES ARE AN ECONOMIC DRIVER. 
          I THINK THEY'RE GONNA BRING PEOPLE INTO OUR TOWN AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. 
          TOWNS ALL OVER TEXAS AND ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE TEARING THEIR BIKE LANES UP TO GO BACK TO STREETS. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE, THE LIBERAL, MOST LIBERAL TOWN IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AUSTIN IS SPENDING T EXCUSE ME, TONS OF MONEY UNDOING THEIR BIKE LANES. 
          AND IF WE WANT DO BIKE LANES, PAINT A STRIPE IN THE ROAD, DON'T GO IN HERE AND TEAR OUR STREETS UP AND NOT ALLOW CARS TO DRIVE IN THAT LANE. 
          ALL OVER THE WORLD. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE LANES FOR CARS, NOT LESS. 
          THAT'S NOT THE TOWN I WANNA LIVE IN. 
          I WANT LESS PEOPLE ON THE STREET. 
          YOU WANT MORE PEOPLE WALKING AND RIDING THEIR BIKES. 
          I WANT CONNECTIVITY. 
          I THINK MORE PEOPLE WANT THAT. 
          I THINK MORE PEOPLE LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          THEY CAN WALK TO A 
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RESTAURANT, THEY CAN BIKE TO A PARK. 
          I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT. 
          I THINK IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          I THINK WE GET PEOPLE INTO THE TOWN. 
          I THINK WE GET EMPLOYERS THAT NOTICE WE'VE GOT A CERTAIN AGE GROUP OF EDUCATED PEOPLE LIVING HERE AND THEY MOVE THEIR BUSINESS HERE. 
          I THINK THERE'S A WHOLE OTHER WAY THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT BIKE LANES AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF MANY THINGS. 
          THE BIKE LANES, WHAT WHAT'S THE COST? OUR PORTION OF, OF THE BIKE LANE PROJECT, TOTAL PROJECT IS LIKE 1 MILLION. 
          WE'RE PAYING POINT SOMETHING A LITTLE UNDER 2 MILLION YEAH. 
          THAT WE'RE PAYING. 
          RIGHT? AND THE PROJECT IS 9 MILLION CLOSE TO NINE, EIGHT SOMETHING. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT'S NOT MONOPOLY MONEY. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT THOUGH. 
          SO CHRIS, I I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY. 
          AND, AND IT'S ABOUT, I MEAN, EVERYBODY CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHY ON, ON SPENDING AND HOW DO YOU BUILD YOUR CITY AND MAINTAIN IT AND, AND EVERYBODY'S ENTITLED TO THAT PHILOSOPHY. 
          YOU'VE GOT YOURS. 
          I'VE GOT MINE, CHRIS. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          THE, THE, THE POINT YOU MAKE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF TOWN DO PEOPLE WANNA LIVE IN, UH, IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF US HAVE KNOCKED ON A LOT OF DOORS DURING CAMPAIGNS AND FINDING OUT WHAT'S ON PEOPLE'S MIND. 
          AND, AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES OVER THE SIX YEARS I WAS ON THE COUNCIL IN THIS LAST COUPLE YEARS, THAT, UH, I HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE AND THEY LOVE LIVING AT ADDISON. 
          THEY LOVE THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED TO THEM. 
          AND I'VE HAD PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T CARE IF MY TAXES GO UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT'S WORTH IT. 
          BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY, THEY VALUE WHAT THEY GET HERE. 
          AND ADDISON IS NOT KNOWN FOR DOING THINGS ON THE CHEAP OR DOING IT THE EASY WAY WHERE IT'S, WELL, WE JUST DO IT ENOUGH TO GET BY AND YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THE BATHROOM. 
          THEY CAN, THEY CAN, THEY CAN WALK INSIDE AND USE THE A DA BATHROOM INSIDE THE CLUB. 
          THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY, IT'S JUST NOT HOW, IT'S NOT OUR REPUTATION FOR HOW WE DO THINGS. 
          AND THAT'S TO YOUR POINT, CHRIS, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE TOWN I WANNA LIVE IN IS THE ONE THAT PROVIDES THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          AND YEAH, IT COSTS MONEY. 
          IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY TO RUN A CITY AND, AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE STUFF THAT'S GOTTA BE DONE. 
          IT'S NOT A WISHLIST TO HAVE TO DO REDO ROADS. 
          THOSE ARE NOT WISHLISTS. 
          THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YEAH, WE COULD HAVE SAID NO TO, TO SOME OF THOSE THINGS, BUT THEY MAY, THEY MAY, THEY MAY NOT BE IMPORTANT TO YOU, BUT THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO SOMEBODY. 
          AND THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE DO THAT EVERYBODY GETS A BENEFIT FROM. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE, MOST PEOPLE DON'T GO TO THE ATHLETIC CLUB, BUT WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY OVER THERE. 
          NOT EVERYBODY GOES TO ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, BUT WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY THERE. 
          SO WE DON'T THAT, AND THAT'S THE WAY THE WHOLE SYSTEM WORKS. 
          WE, WE SPEND THINGS TO CREATE THE, THE BIGGER PICTURE OF ADDISON AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO THE TOWN. 
          THE GREATER, THE GREATER GOOD FOR NOT JUST NOT JUST THE RESIDENTS FOR THE BUSINESSES AND THE VISITORS. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE CREATE THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE CREATE. 
          WE GET TO CHOOSE HOW WE GET HOW WE DO THAT. 
          DO WE DO IT ON THE CHEAP AND PLAY SMALL OR DO WE WANT TO PLAY BIG AND STAY RELEVANT AND BEING RELEVANT IN THIS WORLD OF VERY COMPETITIVE, UH, METRO PLACE THAT WE LIVE IN IS CHALLENGING. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          I GOTTA STAY ON THAT FOR NOW, FOR NOW. 
          TEARING UP ROADS TO PUT BIKE LANES IN IS NOT MAINTAINING ROADS AS YOU SAID. 
          I GET YOUR POINT. 
          I'VE HEARD, I'VE HEARD YOU ON THAT ALREADY. 
          WE NEED TO MAINTAIN OUR ROADS INTENTIONALLY TEARING SOMETHING DOWN TO PUT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT USED IS, IS HORRIBLE. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU MADE THAT POINT. 
          HOWARD, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING THERE? I I WAS JUST GONNA KICK IN ON A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          UM, I, I THINK IT WAS MARLIN THAT SAID THIS TO ME IN THE PAST ABOUT NEED TO SEPARATING OUR NEEDS FROM OUR WANTS. 
          AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THIS BUDGET ARE DEFINITELY NEEDS AND SOME ARE ONCE. 
          AND IF WE FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR BUDGET IS, HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND, THEN WE, WE RANK WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND THEN WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND THEN WE GET TO THE BOTTOM. 
          AND IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ON YOU, WE WE HAVE TO GIVE UP SOME THINGS. 
          THE BIKE LANES. 
          UM, I AGREE WITH RANDY BECAUSE, UM, THE BIKE LANE SEEMED TO BE BEING PUSHED BY COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS GIVING US $6 MILLION. 
          WHEN I LOOKED THROUGH THE BUDGET, I THOUGHT I SAW IT WAS $10 MILLION NOW FOR THE BIKE LANES, AND IT MAY BE THAT IT'S MORE THAN JUST THE ONE ON QUORUM AND WEST GROVE, BUT I ALL ALONG HEARD SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION, 6 MILLION FROM THE GRANT, A MILLION AND A HALF FROM, UH, ADDISON. 
          WHEN I LOOKED AT THE BUDGET, I THINK IT'S A LOT HIGHER. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHICH FUND IT COMES OUT OF. 
          I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS HOW THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THE BUY CLAIMS FEEL ABOUT THEM AS MUCH AS HOW THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA USE THEM FEEL ABOUT IT. 
          BECAUSE IF WE'RE CONNECTING CARROLLTON TO RICHARDSON AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH ADDISON AND WE'RE BEING PART OF COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, IT'S 169 CITIES AND 16 COUNTIES, I SEE THE BIG PICTURE. 
          BUT IF 80% OF THE PEOPLE RIDING THEIR BIKES DON'T LIVE IN ADDISON AND THE PEOPLE THEY'RE RIDING THROUGH ARE NOT WANTING THAT BIKE TRAFFIC, I THINK WE NEED TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE 
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THAT ARE AFFECTED BY IT. 
          AND I DO THINK THERE'S TWO SCHOOLS OF DOCTORS. 
          I'M NOT A BIKE RIDER. 
          I'M NOT OPPOSED TO BIKE LANE. 
          I'M OPPOSED TO PUTTING BIKE LANES WHERE PEOPLE DON'T WANT THEM. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED TO JUST MAYBE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, SEE IF THERE'S A BETTER PLAN. 
          BUT I AGREE WITH RANDY ON THE BATHROOMS THAT THEIR OUTDOOR BATHROOMS, WE COULD DO THAT A LOT MORE REASONABLY PRICED THAN WHAT WE'RE SPENDING ON 'EM. 
          I HEARD JENNA'S PITCH ABOUT WHY WE HAD 54,000 IN DESIGN SPENT. 
          I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SPEND 5,400 BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD HAVE JUST PAINTED, PUT SOMETHING SAFE ON THE FLOOR. 
          AND EVEN THOUGH BRUCE DISAGREES, I THINK THAT IF WE HAVE A DA UM, GUESTS AT THE, AT THE POOL, THERE ARE ALREADY D BATHROOMS THAT ARE EXCESSIVE TO THEM. 
          THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO INSIDE THE BUILDING, BUT THEY'RE RIGHT. 
          GO THROUGH ONE DOOR. 
          UM, THE THEATER, WE'RE SPENDING A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY TO UPGRADE THE THEATER. 
          SOME PEOPLE ENJOY THE THEATER, MOST PEOPLE DON'T. 
          WHEN YOU HAVE THESE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS, I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL, WE'RE LUCKY WE GET 50 OR 60 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP. 
          IT'S NOT EVEN HALF OF 1%. 
          SO 99 AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE WE'RE NOT EVEN HEARING FROM. 
          SO I THINK WE'RE NOT DOING A GOOD ENOUGH JOB. 
          UH, WE'RE TOTALLY TRANSPARENT, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING A GOOD ENOUGH JOB GETTING PEOPLE TO HEAR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TELL THEM SO WE CAN'T GET MORE FEEDBACK. 
          SO I MEAN, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE AN INCREASE AT ALL, WE WOULD'VE STUCK TO THE 0.606094. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? YES. 
          THAT'S TAKING THE INCREASED VALUE BY A LOWER RATE TO GET THE SAME TAXES. 
          IS THAT WHAT WELL, IT, IT GENERATES THE SAME AMOUNT OF TAXES BASICALLY ON THE SAME PROPERTY. 
          YES. 
          IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OR MAY SEE THEIR TAXES GO UP OR DOWN. 
          IT'S IN TOTAL WILL GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TAXES. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE LOWER THAN THE LEAVING THE RATE AT THE RATE IT WAS LAST YEAR TIMES THE INCREASE PROPERTY. 
          YEAH, IT'S ABOUT 6 0 9 8 2 2 IS ABOUT A LITTLE UNDER FOUR TENTHS OF 1 CENT AT ABOUT, I MEAN IF WE WENT TO THAT RATE, WHAT WOULD WE NOT, I MEAN IS THIS GENERATING ENOUGH MONEY TO DO EVERYTHING IT'S PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET. 
          SO ARE WE STILL SHORT OR ARE WE OVER? SO YEAH, SO AS THE CONVERSATION'S GONE ON, IT'S ALL AS YOU GO PROJECT BY PROJECT, ALL WORTHWHILE DISCUSSION, BUT THERE'S DIFFERENT REVENUE BUCKETS FOR EACH. 
          SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAX, ALL THE PROJECTS YOU'VE LISTED ARE NOT PAID FOR THE PROPERTY TAX RIGHT NOW. 
          THEY'RE PAID FROM A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND. 
          SO IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT, YOU CAN DISCUSS 'EM IF FOR, IF Y'ALL DON'T WANT 'EM TO DO THOSE, WE WILL NOT DO THOSE PROJECTS. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON ANY ONE OF THOSE AND DECIDE WHETHER TO DO 'EM OR NOT. 
          BUT IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS WE HAVE A LIST OF EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING, THERE'S THIS MUCH MONEY AND DO IT BECAUSE OF THE REVENUE SOURCES. 
          SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAX, WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE OPERATIONS RATE AND WE'RE JUST NOT DOING THAT MANY DECISION PACKAGES, RIGHT? WE'RE DOING OUR COMPENSATION INCREASES IN THE POLICING FIRE. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING OVER THERE. 
          SO YOU CAN DECIDE IF COUNCIL DECIDES, HEY, WE WANT SLASH SIX OR 70, THESE ONETIME PROJECTS GO FOR IT, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA DECREASE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE. 
          SO WHEN WE MOVE MONEY FROM FUND TO FUND, CAN, ARE THERE RULES OR CAN WE ARBITRARILY DO THAT? I MEAN, I SEE THAT  YES. 
          LIKE FROM THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND, THOSE ARE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. 
          YOU CAN MOVE 'EM BACK, BUT THEN THEY'RE ONE TIME FUNDS, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT RECURRING FUNDS TO PAY FOR RECURRING REVENUE. 
          YEAH, RIGHT. 
          RIGHT NOW THE PROPERTY TAX RATE IS PROPOSED THE SAME RATE 6 0 9 8 2 2. 
          UH, THERE'S ABOUT $11,000 IN REVENUE OVER EXPENDITURES IN GENERAL. 
          I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? AT THE, AT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE IS PROPOSED, UH, REVENUE EXCEEDS EXPENDITURES BY ABOUT TAX. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S A PUSH. 
          AND, AND IF YOU WENT BACK, IF YOU WENT TO THE NO NEW REVENUE, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PROPOSED AND A NO NEW REVENUE? UH, THAT'S ABOUT $240,000 AND PROPERTY TAX. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY FROM THE GENERAL FUND, YOU WOULD NEED TO MAKE UP ABOUT 230,000 BUCKS OR GIVE UP SOME. 
          WELL, THEY'RE NOT IN THE RIGHT FUND GETTING REALLY. 
          SO THERE'S THE DECISION PACKAGES, WHICH DAVID MENTIONED, WHICH WERE THE COMPENSATION REALLY, THERE WERE, THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE WITH SUBSTANCE. 
          THERE WAS A COUPLE OF OTHER SMALL ONES,  AND YOU GUYS DID THE, UH, THE EFFICIENCY EXERCISE LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR, WHICH GOOD JOB, GREAT JOB. 
          THERE ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS OVER THOSE TWO YEARS ON THE OPERATING BUDGET. 
          BUT BEYOND THAT, THEN YOU'RE STARTING TO CUT, UM, SERVICES FROM THE PROPERTY TAX RATE. 
          I I WILL, I'LL NEVER SIT HERE AND SAY THAT WE CAN'T FIND MORE EFFICIENCIES AND I'M ALWAYS GONNA SAY THAT, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU TOLD ME RIGHT NOW CUT 10% OF YOUR BUDGET, YEAH, IT'D BE SERVICE REDUCTION. 
          THAT WOULD JUST BE YEAH. 
          EFFECT OF THE MATTER ON THE OPERATING SIDE. 
          SO 
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I DID GO, UH, I DON'T WANT TO TALK. 
          UM, I DID GO LOOK AT THE, UH, OUTDOOR RESTROOM, UH, AS A, A GOOD EXAMPLE, RANDY, THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT. 
          I HAD NEVER BEEN IN THERE. 
          I JUST HAD NOT BEEN TO THAT ONE. 
          AND, UM, SO I'M LOOKING AT IT AND, UH, THANK YOU BILL FOR LETTING ME IN THERE. 
          HERE. 
          THANKS, BILL. 
          UM, NOW BILL, PAT, ACTUALLY PAT DID, PAT, SORRY. 
          PAT. 
          PAT. 
          PAT. 
          THANKS MATT. 
          I TALKED TO BILL EARLIER ABOUT IT, BUT HE LET MOUTH HOOK. 
          SO, AND I'M LOOKING AT THAT. 
          I'M LIKE, WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO? YEAH, WE CAN DO IT ON THE, THE CHIEF AND UM, CONVERSATION HAS BEEN, UH, STAFF HAS BEEN GIVEN DIRECTION, GENERAL PHILOSOPHY, POLICY DIRECTION THAT, UM, ON THE CHIEF IS NOT THE WAY WE DO THINGS. 
          AND THAT'S JUST WHAT YOU SAID. 
          UM, IF I'M DOING MY STUFF AT HOME, I'VE GOT A PLUMBING ISSUE AT HOME WITH MY MAIN LINE INTO MY HOUSE. 
          SO I'M THINKING ABOUT DOING IT ON THE CHIEF, RIGHT? BUT THIS IS NOT MY MEASURE. 
          THIS IS THE WAY THAT THE TOWN PHILOSOPHY IS TO DO THINGS. 
          AND THAT'S SET BY PEOPLE BEFORE ME AND PEOPLE NOW. 
          SO IF WE WANNA LOWER THAT BAR, WE CAN LOWER THE BAR, WE CAN BE CARROLLTON. 
          I MEAN THAT, THAT'S FINE. 
          THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. 
          IT'S JUST WE HAVE TO GIVE STAFF THAT DIRECTION AND SET IT. 
          AND IT IS A SLOW SHIP TO TURN. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IF, IF YOU CUT 10% OUT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A REALLY BIG DEAL, BUT IT TAKES TIME TO LOWER THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT PHILOSOPHY, THAT POLICY. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF, THAT WAS AN EYE-OPENER TO ME AS FAR AS WHAT TYPE OF LENS I'M LOOKING AT TO THAT UPGRADE ON THAT OUTDOOR BATHROOM VERSUS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT HAD, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY UPGRADES SINCE IT WAS BUILT 30 YEARS AGO, 35 YEARS AGO. 
          SO I'M LIKE, WELL IT IS TIME TO, TO UPDATE IT NOW. 
          IS IT 200 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH? UH, THAT'S, UH, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN GO IN THERE AND LOOK AT IT WITH FINE TOOTH COMB AND TAKE MY OWN ACCOUNTANTS AND ENGINEERS IN THERE, BUT, UH, UH, THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF TRUST THAT I WOULD, UH, TRUST THE STAFF TO DO THAT, UH, AND BE A GOOD FIDUCIARY OF THE TOWN'S TAX DOLLARS. 
          AND IF YOU DON'T TRUST 'EM, THEN WE HAVE TO TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH. 
          MARLON, DO YOU HAVE SOME? YEAH, ALL I WAS GONNA SAY IS, IS YOU HOWARD, YOU KNOW, I AM VERY CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT NEEDS VERSUS WANTS AND, AND, AND WHAT DO THINGS COST AND DO WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT? DOES IT MAKE SENSE WHETHER WE GET A GRANT OR NOT? AND, AND RANDY, I I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          OUR, ON OUR TAX RATE, WE'VE GOTTA BE VERY CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT FOLKS LIKE DALLAS, GOOD EXAMPLE. 
          NOW THEY ARE 10 CENTS HIGHER, ALMOST, ALMOST 10 CENTS HIGHER, EVEN WITH THEIR, THEIR PROPOSED BRINGING IT DOWN. 
          BUT I'M, I'M VERY CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT THE TOLL WEIGHT DALLAS, PLANO, FRISCO, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, PLANO, FRISCO, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? I KNOW IT MIGHT, HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT US IN THE, UH, IN THE COMMERCIAL WORLD AND PEOPLE MAKING DECISIONS WHERE TO WHERE TO MOVE. 
          UM, UH, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO WANT TO LIVE IN THE PLATINUM QUARTER. 
          AND, AND LUCKILY WE'RE THERE. 
          UM, I WILL SAY THIS, UM, THIS IS MY SEVENTH BUDGET AND, AND OUT OF THE SEVEN, THIS IS, THIS IS THE LEANEST AND THIS IS THE BUDGET. 
          OUT OF THOSE SEVEN, I WOULD SAY THIS IS, THIS IS THE EMPLOYEE, BUT WE'RE CATCHING THE EMPLOYEES UP. 
          THEY WERE BEHIND. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A STEP PLAN NOW AND, AND IT APPEARS THAT WE WILL, WHAT, SOME HALF A MILLION DOLLARS BEHIND IN JUST EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION. 
          SO, UM, I AM HAPPY IF, IF, UM, UM, IF WE ARE GONNA DO WHAT WE'RE GOING INTO BUDGET, I AM HAPPY TO. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S A NEED, RIGHT? THAT IS DEF THAT IS, THAT IS DEFINITELY A NEED TO, TO GET THE EMPLOYEES CAUGHT UP AND, AND IN ORDER. 
          UM, SO I'M, I'M HAPPY THAT THAT, UM, THAT WE AS A GROUP HAVE DECIDED, HEY, WE'RE GONNA DO IT THIS YEAR. 
          WE DID DECIDE THAT, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND, AND SO I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT, BUT WE'RE GONNA GO, IN FEBRUARY, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT DOING OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING, AND IF, IF WE WANT, YOU KNOW, IF PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS TO HAVE A LOWER TAX RATE OR HOWEVER, WHICH WAY, IT'D BE A GREAT TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT IF WE WANT THAT. 
          BUT, UM, THOSE ARE JUST THE THOUGHTS. 
          I'M JUST, I, FOR ME, I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM THE SEVEN YEARS I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, AND I'D LOVE TO SEE IT GET TAX RATE, GET LOWERED A LITTLE BIT. 
          THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          EVEN IF IT WAS JUST THE SMALLEST AMOUNT. 
          I THINK IT'S IN THE MESSAGE TO OUR, OUR, UM, OUR RESIDENTS, OUR BUSINESS, OUR, OUR PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          BUT, UM, BUT I WILL SAY THIS IS, THIS IS THE BUDGET I'VE, I'VE SEEN IN SEVEN YEARS. 
          I THANK YOU, MARLON. 
          DAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YEAH, I MEAN, GOING BACK TO JUST ASKING OPEN-ENDED QUESTION FOR STEVEN IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HYPOTHETICALLY DON'T DO BATHROOM, WE, IF WE THREW $300,000 BACK INTO THE BUDGET, WHAT DOES THAT, WOULD THAT LOWER OUR TAX RATE A PENNY HALF A CENT? 
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OR DOES IT NOT EVEN, DOES IT NOT EVEN COMPUTE? WOULD IT NOT EVEN A DENT, IT COMPUTE, WOULD IT NOT EVEN A DENT IT WELL, SO THAT, THAT, AS, AS DAVID KIND OF ALLUDED TO THAT, IS, UH, FUNDS THAT ARE IN A, A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND, A ONE TIME, UH, FUND SO THAT THAT PROJECT'S NOT COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO IT, IT WOULDN'T AFFECT THE TAX RATE. 
          SO I, I WOULD JUST ADD, SAY WE, YEAH, SAY WE, HEY, WE'RE GONNA MOVE THIS 300,000 IN. 
          I MEAN, I AM NOT, I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT YOU ALL ADOPTING A BUDGET THAT USE ONE TIME FUNDS TO PAY FOR RECURRING COST. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THAT WOULD DO. 
          OUR, OUR OPERATING BUDGET'S. 
          RECURRING COST. 
          YEAH. 
          IF YOU BRING 300,000 OVER IN ONE TIME FUNDS, YOU'RE JUST PUTTING US IN A HOLE THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE OR ADVISABLE. 
          SO I'M JUST NOT GONNA SUPPORT YOU ALL DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE TALKED ABOUT NO, AND THAT, AND THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THAT'S THE POINT I'M TRYING TO GET AT. 
          SO I, I LIKE RANDY'S POINT, I'M AGREEING WITH RANDY ON THAT POINT. 
          IF WE'RE TALKING ON A 2027 CALENDAR BUDGET, NOW THAT RANDY'S ON, ON, UM, CAN WE START TO THINK IN THOSE TERMS? HOW DO WE DROP A NICKEL OFF WITHOUT LOSING SERVICES OR OTHER ITEMS? I, I, I, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OR AT LEAST EXPLORE WITHOUT AFFECTING ONETIME FUNDS. 
          AFFECTING ONETIME FUNDS. 
          I MEAN, IF WE ABSOLUTELY WILL, I WILL, YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS WE'VE FOUND $900,000 OF EFFICIENCIES. 
          I'M HOPEFUL WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S BEEN A PRIORITY FOR US. 
          THE ONLY REASON THAT WE'RE ABLE TO LOWER THE OPERATIONS RATE THIS YEAR WHILE ADDING 600,000 IN EMPLOYEE COSTS FOR POLICE AND FIRE IS BECAUSE WE DID THAT. 
          SO YOU HAVE A TAG, YOU HAVE, AND THE DEBT SERVICE RATE'S GONNA CONTINUE TO GO UP FROM THE BOND PROGRAM. 
          SO NEXT YEAR, THE DEBT SERVICE RATE'S GOING UP, WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HAVE THE OPERATIONS RATE AS LEAN AS POSSIBLE. 
          BUT THOSE ARE JUST, THOSE ARE THE REALITIES THAT WE'LL BE DEALING WITH. 
          BUT YEAH, HAVING THE CONVERSATION, STRATEGIC PLANNING AND TO THE BUDGET, ABSOLUTELY. 
          WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 
          AND ONE LAST QUE ONE LAST POINT, AND MAYBE DARREN, YOU MIGHT KNOW THIS, OR BRUCE, YOU MIGHT KNOW THIS. 
          WE, WE RAISED THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          WAS THAT TWO YEARS AGO, OR WAS THAT A YEAR AGO? WAS THAT TWO YEARS AGO? OR WAS THAT A YEAR AGO? UH, THAT WAS THE SENIOR EXEMPTION, UM, WHICH WAS RAISED, CORRECT. 
          UH, TWO YEARS AGO. 
          CORRECT. 
          TO THE HIGHEST. 
          TO THE HIGHEST. 
          WELL, WELL, THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IS ALREADY AT THE HIGHEST, UH, THE, THE SENIOR EXEMPTION WAS RAISED $10,000, UH, FROM 50. 
          BUT THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK SHOULD BE BROUGHT BACK UP BECAUSE WE DO THINK ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS, WE DO THINK ABOUT OUR CONSTITUENTS, WE DO CARE ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE, WHICH IS THEIR, WHICH IS THEIR WELLBEING, RIGHT? THEIR FINANCIAL PLANNING AND WELLBEING. 
          AND IS THERE, IF WE DID THAT FOR OUR SENIORS, IT'S THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED A FEW YEARS AGO. 
          TAKES TIME. 
          I'M ALL FOR LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE GOING AHEAD. 
          THAT'S THE GOAL FOR THE WHOLE COUNCIL TO DROP THE TA DROP THE TAX RATE WITHOUT LOSING THE SERVICES. 
          YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT SERVICES. 
          YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT. 
          I, I WANNA SAY, UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, RANDY, I THINK THESE ARE DISCUSSIONS WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO HAVE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS BUDGET, I MEAN, I SORT OF FALL INTO MARLON'S CAMP. 
          IT'S PRETTY LEAN. 
          I THINK WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING SOME THINGS FOR THE STAFF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD TO DO. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I'M STILL WAITING FOR AN ECONOMIC SLOWDOWN. 
          UM, I THINK YOU, YOU, YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT THAT WE'RE STILL GONNA, WE, WE'VE GOT DEBT TO ADD, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OFFICE TOWERS THAT, UM, WE'RE WILLING TO DO ALL WE CAN TO TRY TO GET LEASED UP. 
          YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE DO MAKE INVESTMENTS IN QUORUM TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE THOSE INVESTMENTS, THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE MORE DEBT. 
          WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH OUR POLICE HEADQUARTERS. 
          UM, SO I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL GREAT CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE. 
          HOW MUCH DOES EACH PENNY AND PROPERTY TAX BRING US, UH, FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR? IT WOULD BRING ABOUT 650,000 BUCKS. 
          SO IF WE CUT A NICKEL, WE CUT 3 MILLION. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          BUT HOW MUCH DOES IT BRING TO THE GENERAL FUND, THOUGH? I THINK THAT'S THE ALL IN NUMBER RIGHT? DEBT AND, BUT YOUR DEBT SERVICE RATE IS YOUR DEBT SERVICE RATE. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY NOW IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU DROP 1 CENT, THAT'S ALL COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO IF YOU SAID, LET'S REDUCE BY 1 CENT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 650,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST HEARD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS. 
          I'D NEVER HEARD US TALK ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS OR OUR BUSINESSES AS FAR AS GETTING THEM SOME HELP. 
          AND I THINK GOING FORWARD WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          THOSE ARE GOOD WORDS, BUT I THINK EVERY SINGLE THING I DO IN THIS ROOM IS ALL ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS. 
          YEP. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE TO HAVE A HEALTHY, THRIVING ADDISONS AND A SAFE AND A LIVE QUALITY OF ALL THE RESIDENTS TO MAKE THIS WORK. 
          AND THAT'S, I MEAN, I'M A LITTLE OFFENDED BY YOU THINKING I DON'T THINK ABOUT THE RESIDENTS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SAY, WHICH ONE? OKAY. 
          25 YEARS AGO WHEN I MOVED INTO THIS TOWN, WE HAD THE LOWEST TAX RATE IN THE STATE. 
          YOU ARE A GROWING, DEVELOPING TOWN. 
          AT THAT TIME, WE HAD THE SAME, WE'RE 
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A MATURE TOWN NOW. 
          HAD THE SAME AMENITIES WE HAVE TODAY THAT DIMINISH GROWING YOUR TAX BASE. 
          SO, RANDY, LET ME, LET ME ASK YOU, IF, IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY, WHERE WOULD YOU CUT? SURE. 
          OUT THE GENERAL FUND. 
          WHERE WOULD YOU WANT TO CUT? I THINK WE GO THROUGH A LOT OF THIS STUFF AND WE LOOK, LIKE I SAY, WE SIT HERE AND WE LISTEN TO WHAT WE, I I DON'T WANNA REHASH WHAT I'VE SAID, WHICH LIST NEEDS AND WANTS. 
          I THINK WE HEARD A LOT OF WANTS. 
          IT, IT'S CHISELING AWAY. 
          I, AND I KNOW Y'ALL ARE GONNA SAY IT'S DIFFERENT FUN, BUT THE, THE, THE MENTALITY OF BEING MORE CONSERVATIVE IN CUTTING CAN START WITH TASTE. 
          I KNOW THAT'S, I KNOW THAT'S A HOTEL FUND, BUT THAT'S TAX MONEY. 
          YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT TAX MONEY AS REAL MONEY. 
          IT'S NOT MONOPOLY MONEY. 
          AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY FUND IN THE SAME LIGHT THAT YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER. 
          AND IF WE GO ACROSS THE BOARD LOOKING TO SEE WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK, YOU GET TO THE CUTS OF THE GENERAL FUND. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK EVERYBODY SAID WHAT THEY WANTED TO SAY. 
          IS THAT FAIR? CAN WE MOVE ALONG? BECAUSE WE CAN DO THIS ALL, ALL NIGHT LONG, THAT'S FOR SURE. 
          BUT WE NEED TO MOVE ALONG. 
          STEVEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ? YOU CAN SKIP THAT SLIDE. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO THAT WAS THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S THE LAST OF OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS. SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GO FOR OUR SEVEN O'CLOCK MEETING, UH, IN THE, UH, IN THE MAIN, IN THE, IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 
          UH, IF YOU EVER ANY FIVE MINUTE BREAK FOR TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS, YOU CAN DO THAT. 
          SO WE'LL, UH, RECONVENE IN FIVE WE MINUTES ISH. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          IT IS EIGHT OH SIX AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON, UH, AUGUST 12TH, 2025. 
          AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT WITH SIX MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND ONE JOINING US VIA ZOOM THIS EVENING. 
          AND AS ALWAYS, WE'D LIKE TO START OUR MEETINGS WITH THE PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS. 
          IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE AS YOU'RE ABLE. 
          I PLEDGE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL JUSTICE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND IVIS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. 
          IT IS, UH, WE'RE RUNNING A LITTLE BEHIND SCHEDULE, OBVIOUSLY TONIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. 
          WE DID HAVE EXTENDED DISCUSSION IN OUR WORK SESSION. 
          UH, WE'LL 
          [a.  City Manager's Announcements.]
MOVE RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. 
          WE HAVE, UH, TWO A CITY MANAGER ANNOUNCEMENTS, AND THEN TWO B IS EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION. 
          DAVID GAINES. 
          THANKS MAYOR. 
          JUST TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT. 
          ARE YOU READY TO HELP ONE OF ADDISON'S ADOPTABLE ANIMALS FIND THEIR FUR EVER HOME? JOIN US AT LAZY DOG ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 27TH FROM THREE TO 5:00 PM TO MEET SOME OF THESE ADORABLE PETS. 
          THOSE ARE ALWAYS GREAT EVENTS. 
          AND NEXT, THE FINAL SINGLE SINGER SONGWRITER SHOWCASE OF THE SUMMER IS ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 28TH FROM SEVEN TO 9:00 PM AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK. 
          THIS FREE MONTHLY OUTDOOR CONCERT SERIES HAS BEEN CELEBRATING THE HEART AND SOUL OF LOCAL MUSIC BY HIGHLIGHTING TALENTED SINGER SONGWRITERS PERFORMING THEIR ORIGINAL MUSIC. 
          [b.  Employee Recognition.]
NEXT, WE'LL ASK PASSION HAYES TO COME PRESENT OUR NEWEST DIRECTOR TO TOWN. 
          THANK YOU DAVID MAYOR AND COUNCIL PASSION HAYES, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. 
          I AM PLEASED TO ONCE AGAIN INTRODUCE JAMIE AOSA, WHO JOINED ADDISON AS OUR NEW AIRPORT DIRECTOR ON AUGUST 4TH. 
          ORIGINALLY FROM BROOKLYN, NEW YORK. 
          JAMIE GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF DUBUQUE, DUBUQUE IN IOWA. 
          WE PRACTICED THAT UP, SORRY, I MESSED IT UP. 
          WHERE HE MAJORED IN AVIATION MANAGEMENT AND SPANISH WITH A MINOR IN FLIGHT OPERATIONS. 
          JAMIE AND HIS WIFE COREY, HAVE A LARGE AND LIVELY FAMILY WITH AGES RANGING FROM 33 TO SIX. 
          ANGIE, BETH, MARCO, MARY, ANGEL, ANDRE, ANGELO, AALIYAH, JULIAN, AND AYANA. 
          HE IS PROUD TO CALL ADDISON HOME, NOTING THAT THE AIRPORT'S EXCELLENT REPUTATION AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO RELOCATE TO TEXAS MADE THIS POSITION THE PERFECT FIT. 
          AND WHEN HE'S NOT AT THE AIRPORT, HAMID WILL LOVE THIS. 
          UH, 
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HE IS CHEERING ON HIS FAVORITE SOCCER TEAM, REAL MADRID. 
          WHEN IT COMES TO ACCOMPLISHMENTS. 
          JAMIE SAYS, BEING SELECTED FOR THIS ROLE IS HIS GREATEST PROFESSIONAL ACCOMPLISHMENT. 
          ON A PERSONAL NOTE, HE IS PROUD OF BEING THE FIRST IN HIS FAMILY AS A FIRST GENERATION AMERICAN TO GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE. 
          WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE ADDISON WAY, JAMIE SAID, I WILL ALWAYS PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICE TO EVERYONE I INTERACT WITH. 
          I WILL LISTEN, RESPOND PROMPTLY, FIND SOLUTIONS, BRIDGE GAPS, AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND HONEST AND TRANSPARENT. 
          I'LL ALSO MENTOR AND SUPPORT THE TEAM AND THE LEADERS OF TOMORROW. 
          PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING JAMIE TO ADDISON. 
          THANK YOU PASSION. 
          JAMIE. 
          WELCOME ONCE AGAIN. 
          WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE. 
          ALRIGHT, MOVING 
          [3. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          THIS IS THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA OR NOT ON THE AGENDA. 
          AND I DO HAVE A FEW COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS, SO WE'LL JUST GO IN, UH, WHICHEVER ORDER THEY WERE HANDED TO ME. 
          AND, UH, WHENEVER YOU COME UP, YOU PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AT THE LECTERN. 
          AND FIRST UP, WE HAVE PHYLLIS SILVER. 
          HELLO, I'M, MY NAME IS PHYLLIS SILVER. 
          I'M AT 1 5 7 2 0 ARTIST WAY. 
          SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO MINCE WORDS. 
          I'M UPSET ABOUT THE BUSES MOVING FROM QUORUM TO ONE OF ADDISON'S MOST PEDESTRIAN UNFRIENDLY STREETS, ADDISON ROAD. 
          AS DISHEARTENING AS THIS IS THE MOST DISTURBING, OVERARCHING ISSUE IS THE WAY THIS CAME ABOUT IN MY 23 YEARS IN ADDISON, I HAVE NORMALLY SEEN CITY LEADERS ACTING RESPECTFULLY AND COLLABORATIVELY IN THIS CASE ONE AND EVENTUALLY TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESSURED DART TO MAKE THIS CHANGE. 
          THIS BREAK FROM ACCEPTED PROCEDURES AND THE BEHAVIOR EXHIBITED HAS CREATED A NEGATIVE IMAGE OF ADDISON TO RESIDENTS, VISITORS, AND PARTNERS SUCH AS DART. 
          AND APPARENTLY THE TOWN DID NOT AUDIT THE SURVEY SIGNATURES. 
          SOME SIGNERS LIVED IN PLANO, DALLAS, AND PARTS OF ADDISON NOT NEAR BUSES. 
          I AM PLEASED THAT THE BEHAVIOR HAS BEEN ADMONISHED BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE CONSEQUENCES FOR NON-COMPLIANCE. 
          IN MY ROLE AS A DART CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER AND FORMER CHAIR, I LOOK AT THE NEEDS OF RIDERS AND MYSELF. 
          ADDISON'S 2016 MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, PROPOSED CROSSWALKS, MEDIANS, AND SIDEWALKS FOR ADDISON ROAD DUE TO CHANGING PRIORITIES. 
          NOW, SOME 10 YEARS LATER, THERE ARE A FEW IMPROVEMENTS AND ADDISON ROAD IS NOT A DA COMPLIANCE. 
          HOW SAD THAT IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, RIDERS TRAVELING TO AND FROM THE TRANSIT CENTER, AND SOON THE TRAIN WILL BE DEPRIVED OF SEEING THE CHARMING WHITE LIGHTS OUTLINING THE TREES AT ADDISON CIRCLE. 
          I LEARNED ABOUT ADDISON CIRCLE SOME 25 YEARS AGO WHEN A TROLLEY TRAVELS THROUGH THE CIRCLE, I'M PLEASED THE CROSSOVER STREET IS NOT AIRPORT PARKWAY. 
          BESIDES THE NARROW TURN, I STRESSED TO THE DARTBOARD AND TO BRUCE THAT THIS WOULD'VE CREATED AN INTERFERENCE WITH POST OFFICE AND FEDEX BUSINESS. 
          PLEASE NOTE THAT CREATING TEMPORARY DETOURS DUE TO ROAD CLOSURES REQUIRES A MUCH DIFFERENT PROCESS THAN PERMANENT ROUTE CHANGES. 
          IF YOU EVER HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT GENERAL PROCESSES, PLEASE CALL ON ME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, PHYLLIS. 
          NEXT UP WE HAVE JOSEPH PEDROZA. 
          ALRIGHT, JOE OR JOSEPH PEDROZA 15 7 87 SPECTRUM. 
          UM, GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. 
          UH, I AM A PROUD RESIDENT OF ADDISON. 
          UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR TOWN AND THE IMPORTANCE OF LONG-TERM VISION. 
          BEFORE CHOOSING TO MAKE MY HOME IN ADDISON, I LIVED IN OTHER PREMIUM COMMUNITIES, COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA, INCLUDING FRISCO AND COPPEL. 
          I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND WHAT SETS THE CITY APART, AND I CHOSE ADDISON DELIBERATELY BECAUSE I SAW A TOWN THAT VALUES AND INVEST IN HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ITS RESIDENTS. 
          THIS BRINGS ME TO MY MAIN POINT. 
          THERE IS A TEMPTATION IN CIVIC LIFE FOR PENNY PENSION TO VIEW TAX CUTS AS THE ONLY METRIC OF SUCCESS. 
          I WOULD ARGUE THIS IS A SHORTSIGHTED APPROACH. 
          I WOULD NEVER CHOOSE TO LIVE IN DALLAS CARROLLTON OR FARMER'S BRANCH BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEIR LEADERSHIP HAS OFTEN BEEN SHORTSIGHTED, SACRIFICING 
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FUTURE VIBRANCY OF THEIR OWN TOWNS FOR SHORT TERM SAVINGS. 
          I AND MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE HAPPY TO PAY THE PREMIUM FOR PREMIUM LIVING. 
          WE WANT OUR PUBLIC SPACES AND MEDIANS TO BE BEAUTIFULLY LANDSCAPED. 
          WE WANT TOP-NOTCH AMENITIES AND THE BEST POLICE AND FIRE PROTECTION OUR MONEY CAN BUY. 
          WE SEE THESE THINGS NOT AS EXPENSES, BUT AS INVESTMENTS. 
          THESE INVESTMENTS ARE WHAT KEEP OUR COMMUNITY DESIRABLE. 
          JUST AS IMPORTANTLY, KEEP OUR PROPERTY VALUES HIGH. 
          WE PAY FOR A PREMIUM COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT PROTECTS OUR SINGLE GREATEST ASSET, OUR HOMES. 
          I MY ASK FOR YOU TONIGHT IS NOT TO BE SHORTSIGHTED. 
          PLEASE LOOK AT OUR TOWN AS A WHOLE AND REMEMBER WHY OUR RESIDENTS CHOSE TO MOVE HERE. 
          WE CAME HERE FOR THE QUALITY, THE SAFETY, THE BEAUTY THAT COMES WITH THOUGHTFUL INVESTMENT. 
          WE TRUST YOU TO BE THE STEWARDS OF THAT VISION. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU, JOE. 
          NEXT UP, SUSAN HALPER. 
          SUSAN HALPER, 1 4 800 LA GRANDE. 
          I'M HERE TO ADDRESS MR. FREE'S UNAUTHORIZED, INAPPROPRIATE AND CHARTER VIOLATION, INAPPROPRIATE COMMUNICATIONS AND INTERACTION WITH DART, UM, MR. FREE. 
          YOU VIOLATED ADDISON'S CHARTER. 
          NEITHER YOU NOR ANY OTHER PERSON ON THIS COUNSEL HAS THE RIGHT OR THE AUTHORITY TO CONDUCT BUSINESS ON BEHALF OF ADDISON. 
          THE COUNCIL SETS POLICY AND THE CITY MANAGER CARRIES OUT THAT POLICY THROUGH HIS EXCELLENT STAFF. 
          OUR CHARTER, ESTABLISHING THIS SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT IS SOMETHING THE VOTERS VOTED ON AND ONLY THE VOTERS CAN AMEND IT. 
          IT'S THE SYSTEM OF GOVERNANCE THAT THE VOTERS, THE PEOPLE YOU TALK ABOUT AS CONSTITUENTS, YOUR CONSTITUENTS, THAT'S WHAT WE, UH, VOTED ON. 
          YOU IGNORED IT ALL BECAUSE YOU UNILATERALLY DEEMED IT EXPEDIENT TO DO SO. 
          IN THE JULY 22ND MEETING OF THE COUNCIL, IT WAS READILY APPARENT THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND OR APPRECIATE THE SERIOUSNESS OF YOUR UNLAWFUL CONDUCT. 
          IN FACT, I DON'T THINK YOU THINK YOU DID ANYTHING WRONG. 
          I THINK YOU SEE YOURSELF AS A SORT OF HERO OR A MAN OF THE PEOPLE, THE GUY WHO CUTS THROUGH THE RED TAPE. 
          YOU ARE SERIOUSLY MISGUIDED IN THOSE CONCLUSIONS. 
          IN TRUTH, YOU ARE A ROGUE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO DEFIED ADDISON'S CHARTER, WHO VIOLATED ADDISON'S CHARTER, WHO VIOLATED YOUR OATH OF OFFICE. 
          NONE OF IT CHANGES BECAUSE YOU UNILATERALLY DEEMED IT EXPEDIENT TO TAKE A DIFFERENT COURSE. 
          IMAGINE THE CHAOS THAT WOULD ENSUE IF EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL ACTED AS YOU DID. 
          YOUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH DART WERE DISGUSTING, INAPPROPRIATE, UNPROFESSIONAL. 
          YOU INSULTED THEM, YOU BERATED THEM IN YOUR WORDS. 
          YOU BLEW UP ON THE PHONE AND WENT BALLISTIC. 
          YOU CALLED THEIR EMPLOYEE WORTHLESS AND A FLUNKY. 
          YOU THREATENED OUR REPRESENTATIVE, GARY SLAGEL, NOW DART'S CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD. 
          YOU TOLD HIM YOU'D SPEND EVERY MINUTE OF YOUR REMAINING TERM MAKING HIS LIFE MISERABLE IF HE DIDN'T MEET YOUR DEMANDS. 
          AND YOU CALLED HIM YOU, YOU SAID THAT HE WAS STONEWALLING IN GIVING LAME EXCUSES BECAUSE HE WOULDN'T MEET YOUR DEMANDS. 
          AND HE SUGGESTED THEY NEEDED SIDEWALKS ON ADDISON ROAD TO CAREFULLY, PROPERLY, SAFELY SERVE DART RIDERS. 
          YOUR DISRESPECT WAS FUELED BY IGNORANCE OF DART'S PROCESSES AND THE PLANS AND THE ISSUES INVOLVED. 
          THEN THERE'S THE ISSUE, THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN. 
          NONE OF THIS HAPPENED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT. 
          THE BUSES WILL NOW PASS BY OTHER RESIDENTS ON ADDISON ROAD. 
          SO YOU PROBABLY JUST SURFED THE ISSUE. 
          ADDISON IS NOT A DICTATORSHIP BY CHARTER. 
          YOU'RE SIMPLY ONE MEMBER OF A COUNCIL. 
          SO LET'S BE CLEAR, YOU'RE NOT A HERO, YOU'RE NOT A MAN OF THE PEOPLE. 
          YOU DIDN'T CUT THROUGH THE RED TAPE. 
          YOU'RE A ROGUE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO VIOLATED THE CHARTER. 
          AND IF YOU CAN'T CONDUCT YOURSELF IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CHARTER THAT ADDISON'S VOTERS VOTED ON. 
          SUE THAT THEN RESIGN NOW. 
          THANK YOU, SUE. 
          NEXT UP WE HAVE TYLER WRIGHT. 
          ONE MOMENT. 
          JUST PULLING UP MY LITTLE SPEECH HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          HI, GOOD EVENING. 
          TYLER WRIGHTS 15 7 2 5 ARTIST WAY MEMBER OF THE P AND Z. 
          BUT I'M JUST HERE FOR ME TONIGHT. 
          UM, THE GEORGE SOROS BIKE LANES CHECKED IN CLEAR. 
          SO THIS ONE'S GRIST AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO RE REHEARSE. 
          UM, I WANTED TO ADDRESS A COUPLE THINGS FROM COUNCILMAN SMITH. 
          UM, SO COG IS PAYING 80% OF THAT CORRUM BIKE LANE. 
          I KNOW ADDISON'S CUT IS REALLY RELATIVELY SMALL. 
          UM, THE 
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2019 BOND PROPOSAL WAS VOTED APPROVED. 
          I WASN'T HERE YET, BUT I WOULD'VE VOTED FOR IT. 
          UM, I HAVE SENT THE PREVIOUS COUNSEL, UH, BEFORE, BEFORE YOU WERE ON SIR, UH, OVER HALF A DOZEN STUDIES THAT SHOW THE ECONOMIC AND SAFETY BENEFITS OF BIKE LANES, UM, AND, UH, FOR MULTIPLE CITIES IN EACH STUDY. 
          AND I HAVE SENT NEARLY A DOZEN PICTURES OF BIKE RACKS JUST IN MY APARTMENT COMMUNITY THAT SEE REGULAR USE. 
          UM, ADDITIONALLY, EVEN NOW IN THE THE HEAT OF SUMMER, I'M, I'M NOT RIDING MORE THAN A COUPLE TIMES A WEEK. 
          I SEE CYCLISTS OVER 90% OF THE TIME I'M OUT WALKING IN THE CIRCLE. 
          UM, SO THERE, THERE'S DEMAND HERE AND IT'S, AND IT'S, IT'S BEING UNMET BY THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THE OTHER DAY I SAW SOME SPEEDING IN THE CIRCLE DESPITE THE NEW SPEED LIMIT. 
          UM, I I, I'D LOVE FOR THE, THE COUNCIL TO REQUEST THEY PULL THAT SAME DATA YOU GUYS DID. 
          UM, AGAIN, UH, FOR THE ACTUAL MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN. 
          'CAUSE I THINK 25 IS THE CORRECT SPEED LIMIT FOR ADDISON CIRCLE. 
          I THINK THAT'S SOLVED BY DESIGN, LESS SO BY A SIGN AND A COP THERE. 
          UM, SO MULTIPLE CITIES ACROSS THE GLOBE ARE ACTUALLY INVESTING MORE IN THEIR BIKE LANES. 
          PARIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE. 
          UM, THEY'VE REALLY COME A LONG WAY. 
          THE AIR POLLUTION IS DOWN, THEIR STREET TRAFFIC IS UP. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE THING, BUT I, I KNOW I WAS THERE A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ASTOUNDING. 
          UM, I DO RECOMMEND TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, IF YOU HAVEN'T TAKE A LOOK AT STRONG TOWNS. 
          THEY'VE GOT THREE GREAT BOOKS THAT EXPLAIN WHERE I'M COMING FROM. 
          THEY TALK ABOUT USING A STREET AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENGINE AND NOT JUST A WAY TO GET PEOPLE THROUGH. 
          ADDISON CIRCLE. 
          QUORUM DRIVE IS THE PERFECT USE CASE FOR THAT PHILOSOPHY. 
          WE NEED MORE PEOPLE COMING THROUGH, SLOWLY LOOKING AT THE BUSINESSES AND DECIDING TO STOP IN. 
          AND THAT'S HOW WE HELP MY NEIGHBORS. 
          SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL FOR, FOR PUSHING BACK ON THAT AND KEEPING BIKE LANES, IF NOT, TOP OF MIND, AT LEAST ON THE AGENDA AND KEEP IT UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU TYLER. 
          NEXT UP WE HAVE RON WHITEHEAD, HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, CITY MANAGER. 
          MY NAME IS RON WHITEHEAD. 
          I LIVE AT 39 19 BOB AND LANE. 
          AND I WANTED TO ADDRESS JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH YOU THIS EVENING. 
          FIRST OF ALL IS THE ROLE OF COUNCIL IS THAT I AM OBVIOUSLY VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT. 
          IT IS THE FORM THAT THE CITIZENS OF ADDISON HAVE VOTED ON AND PRESCRIBED FOR THE CITY. 
          AND, UH, UNDER THAT IT DEFINES YOUR ROLE AS POLICY MAKERS. 
          UH, YOU HAVE A VERY EXCELLENT CITY MANAGER AND STAFF THAT CAN EXECUTE POLICY FOR YOU. 
          AND THAT FRANKLY, UH, FROM THE NEIGHBORS I'VE TALKED TO AND THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW, THAT'S THEIR EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU DO YOUR JOB AND YOU LET THE CITY MANAGER AND THE STAFF DO THEIRS. 
          UH, AS A REGARDS, POLICY MAKING, WHAT I HEAR FROM PEOPLE IS THEIR EXPECTA EXPECTATION FROM THE, IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS HAS BEEN THAT IT BE A QUALITY COMMUNITY AND THE HIGHEST QUALITY. 
          AND THE ONLY CONCERN I EVER HEAR IS, GEE, I WANT 'EM TO PAY MORE ATTENTION TO THIS OR SPEND MORE TIME ON THIS. 
          IT'S NEVER, WE NEED TO CUT BACK HERE, WE NEED TO CUT BACK THERE. 
          I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU TO GO TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND FIND 10 OF 'EM THAT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE TAX RATE IS. 
          THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TAX RATE IS. 
          PEOPLE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. 
          WHAT THEY DO PAY ATTENTION TO IS NO ONE LIKES PAYING TAXES. 
          BUT I DON'T HEAR THAT ABOUT CITY TAXES. 
          WHAT I HEAR IS THAT THEY WANT US TO MAINTAIN ADDISON AND A QUALITY THAT IT HAS BEEN MAINTAINED FOR ALL OF THESE YEARS. 
          THEY WANT YOU TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE POLICY POLICYMAKING THAT MAKES THE COMMUNITY BETTER AND CONTINUES ON THIS PATH THAT IT'S BEEN ON FOR 50 YEARS. 
          CONTINUE TO HAVE A COUNCIL THAT IS RESPONSIVE TO THE PEOPLE. 
          I'M NOT WILD ABOUT YOUR THREE MINUTE THING FIRST. 
          FRANKLY, THAT DIDN'T EXIST WHEN I WAS AROUND BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF YOUR MOST IMPORTANT FUNCTIONS IS TO LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS THAT, UH, HIRED YOU TO DO THIS JOB. 
          I THINK THAT, UM, THAT YOU DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF HAVING MEETINGS ALL THE TIME, ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN, BUT SOMETIMES IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO SAY EVERYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY IN THREE MINUTES. 
          UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY, MAKE ADDISON BETTER. 
          STAY OUT OF THE STAFF'S BUSINESS AND DO WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, RON. 
          OKAY, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? 
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ALL RIGHT. 
          SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION 
          [4. Consent Agenda. All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]
AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          CONSENT TONIGHT INCLUDES ITEMS FOUR A THROUGH 4G. 
          IS THERE A MOTION HERE? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOUR A THROUGH G. 
          THANK YOU, MARLON. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND FROM, IS THAT CHRIS? ALRIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED. 
          MOVE ON TO 
          [a.  Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on the adoption of new zoning districts in accordance with the Unified Development Code (“UDC”), including changes to the Town of Addison’s laws and regulations regarding zoning districts, subdivision and development, and building and construction, and to adopt new zoning districts in accordance with the UDC.]
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC HEARINGS FIVE A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE ADOPTION OF NEW ZONING DISTRICTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE UDC, INCLUDING CHANGES TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON'S LAWS AND REGULATIONS REGARDING ZONING DISTRICTS, SUBDIVISION AND DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION. 
          AND TO ADOPT NEW ZONING DISTRICTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UDC LESLIE. 
          THANK YOU LESLIE KNIGHT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. 
          UM, THIS EVENING, UM, I WILL BE PRESENTING THE, UH, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE ZONING MAP, UM, WHICH IS PROPOSED FOR ADOPTION, UM, THIS EVENING. 
          AND, UH, I WANNA BEGIN BY JUST TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE TIMELINE CONSIDERATION THAT HAS BROUGHT US TO THIS POINT, UM, FOR THE ZONING MAP SPECIFICALLY. 
          UM, SO THIS CONSIDERATION FOR THE ZONING MAP DID GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT THE JUNE MEETING, WHICH WAS JUNE 17TH. 
          UM, THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION REGARDING THE REQUIREMENT FOR AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE AS IT IS ACTUALLY DIFFERENT THAN COUNCILS. 
          UM, IT WAS, THERE WAS A PERCEIVED STALEMATE AT THAT MEETING, MEANING THAT IT WAS UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WAS NO, UH, AFFIRMATIVE VOTE TO APPROVE OR DENY THE ZONING MAP. 
          UH, SO WHAT, UM, STAFF DID FOR TRANSPARENCY, UH, IN THIS CASE, WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO THE P AND Z AT THE JULY MEETING, UM, TO CLEARLY AND ON THE RECORD, UM, MAKE IT TRANSPARENT THAT THERE WAS IN FACT AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE AT THAT MEETING. 
          UM, WHICH IN FACT THERE WAS A PASSED WITH A FIVE TO TWO VOTE. 
          UM, I ALSO WANNA JUST QUICKLY NOTE THAT AT THE JUNE MEETING, UM, PER THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULATIONS, IT DID PASS. 
          HOWEVER, THAT WAS NOT STATED ON THE RECORD. 
          SO THIS WAS NOT A TYPICAL PROCESS. 
          UM, HOWEVER, FOR THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENCY AND CLARITY FOR THE RESIDENTS, WE WANTED TO ESSENTIALLY START THE PROCESS OVER, UM, WHICH IS WHY IT'S NOW HERE BEFORE YOU, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          SO I'M GONNA START THIS PRESENTATION BY DISCUSSING WHAT ZONING IS, WHAT ITS PURPOSE IS. 
          TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PARKLAND AS WELL, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA JUMP INTO THE UDC. 
          UM, SO EACH, UM, MOST TOWNS, ALMOST ALL TOWNS, HOUSTON IS A NOTABLE ONE, HAVE ZONING. 
          AND ZONING IS WHAT IS PRESCRIBED TO PROPERTY WITHIN THE, THE MUNICIPALITY. 
          UM, THAT SPLITS IT INTO DIFFERENT ZONES OR DISTRICTS. 
          THOSE ARE TERMS THAT CAN BE USED INTERCHANGEABLY. 
          UM, SOME THINK CATEGORIES THAT ARE COMMONLY USED INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, OR MIXED USE. 
          UM, THESE ZONING DISTRICTS ALSO PRESCRIBE VARIOUS STANDARDS RELATED TO LAND USE, DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT, UM, REGULATIONS SUCH AS SETBACKS, HEIGHT, LOT SIZE. 
          UM, THERE'S TYPICALLY ALSO DENSITY OR INTENSITY FOR DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STORIES OR THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS. 
          UM, AND THEN THERE'S USUALLY ADDITIONAL STANDARDS RELATED TO PARKING, LANDSCAPING, SIGNAGE, SOMETIMES LIGHTING. 
          UM, THOSE ALL LIVE WITHIN, UM, AND ARE PRESCRIBED VIA THE ZONING. 
          SO HOW THIS IS IMPLEMENTED IS THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF A ZONING ORDINANCE OR A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE INCLUDES THE ZONING ORDINANCE AS A COMPONENT, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES ALL OF OUR OTHER DEVELOPMENT CODES. 
          SO YOU HAVE A ONE-STOP SHOP AND THEN IT ALSO, UM, IS PRESCRIBED TO REAL PROPERTY VIA THE ZONING MAP. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING. 
          SO THESE TWO COMPONENTS REALLY, UH, TELL US HOW PROPERTY CAN BE USED AND DEVELOP WITHIN OUR CITY. 
          SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS, UM, AND THIS IS GENERALLY RELATED EVERYWHERE, BUT THIS IS TAILORED TO TEXAS CITIES, IS TO, UH, PROMOTE THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. 
          SEPARATE INCOMPATIBLE LAND USES, UH, GUIDE ORDERLY GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, PROTECT PROPERTY VALUES, UH, ENSURE ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN ALSO ENCOURAGE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGH COMPATIBLE AND SUSTAINABLE LAND USE. 
          SO HOW IS ZONING CHANGED? UM, MUNICIPALITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES IN TEXAS HAVE FAIRLY BROAD AUTHORITY TO REGULATE ZONING. 
          UH, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS QUITE A BIT OF DISCRETION RELATED TO THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU ALSO 
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HAVE ADVISORY, UM, BOARDS, WHICH, UH, THE TOWN OF ADDISON HAS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WHICH SERVES AS AN ADVISORY BOARD RELATED TO ZONING ACTION. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA NOTE THAT COUNTIES OR LIKE THE STATE GENERALLY DOES NOT HAVE ZONING. 
          IT'S VERY RARE IN INSTANCES OUTSIDE OF UNINCORPORATED AREAS, WHICH NONE OF THOSE APPLY IN ADDISON. 
          UM, AND ZONING CHANGES CAN BE MADE AT ANY TIME AT THE DISCRETION OF CITY COUNCIL. 
          UM, AND THERE ARE NOTICING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED, DOES REQUIRE INPUT FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. 
          SO, UM, BELOW YOU'LL SEE A GRAPHIC. 
          THIS IS A VERY SIMPLISTIC TIMELINE OF WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT FOR A ZONING APPLICATION. 
          THAT WOULD INCLUDE AN APPLICATION BEING SUBMITTED, UM, GOING THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. 
          THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN ULTIMATELY GOING TO CITY COUNCIL, WHO IS THE DECISION MAKER. 
          SO NOW I'M GONNA TRANSITION TO, UM, PARKLAND, WHAT IS IT? UM, OR A PUBLIC PARK. 
          ONCE AGAIN, THOSE TERMS CAN BE USED INTERCHANGEABLY. 
          UM, SO THE TOWN HAS ADOPTED THE PARKS, RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN IN APRIL, 2029. 
          THIS IS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE PROS PLAN 'CAUSE IT'S A BIT OF A MOUTHFUL. 
          UM, THIS PLAN IS ADMINISTERED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, SO, AND I BELIEVE JANA IS HERE. 
          OH, THANK YOU JANA. 
          IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. 
          UM, BUT WHAT THIS, THIS IS A POLICY DOCUMENT THAT IDENTIFIES BOTH OUR EXISTING PARKS AND OTHER RECREATION ASSETS AND ALSO IDENTIFIES, UH, WHAT OUR FUTURE NEEDS AND OPPORTUNITIES ARE FOR THE PARKS REC, UM, RECREATION IN ADDISON. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS DONE THROUGH PUBLIC INPUT AND ENGAGEMENT. 
          AND SO THAT'S HOW THESE PO THIS POLICY DOCUMENT WAS, UM, UM, CREATED THROUGH THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          SO WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT, UM, THIS SAYS PAGE SIX OF THAT, THE PROS PLAN. 
          THERE IS AN EXISTING, UH, THERE'S A MAP THAT HAS OUR EXISTING PARKS AND GREEN BELTS. 
          UM, AND THAT'S ILLUSTRATED HERE. 
          SO THESE, UM, BY DEFINITION ARE ESTABLISHED AS PARKLAND OR PUBLIC PARKS, UM, 'CAUSE THEY'RE ESTABLISHED IN OUR POLICY DOCUMENT THAT THIS IS, THAT'S THEIR PURPOSE, UM, WHICH IS FURTHER DEFINED WITHIN THAT POLICY PLAN. 
          I ALSO WANNA NOTE THAT THERE'S OTHER AVENUES WHICH PROPERTY COULD BE ESTABLISHED AS PARKLAND. 
          UM, MANY OF THOSE COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED VIA CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO, UM, YOU COULD INCLUDE IT IN A PROS PLAN OR SIMILAR POLICY DOCUMENT. 
          THIS DOCUMENT COULD BE AMENDED OR UPDATED OR REPLACED WITH A NEW ONE. 
          UM, IF COUNSEL SEES FIT, UM, THERE COULD BE A RESOLUTION PASSED BY COUNSEL. 
          IT COULD BE VIA PARKLAND DEDICATION. 
          UH, WE DID HAVE A PARKLAND DEDICATION, UM, ORDINANCE THAT WAS APPROVED THE END OF LAST YEAR, WHICH DEFINES WHAT AND HOW PROPERTY CAN BE USED WHEN DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY UNDER THAT ORDINANCE. 
          UH, THERE'S ALSO OTHER PRIVATE, UH, CCNRS THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD EXIST ON PROPERTY AS WELL. 
          UM, THEN I ALSO JUST WANNA NOTE, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS LIKELY TOO SMALL TO READ, BUT THIS IS IN THE APPENDIX OF THAT PROS PLAN THAT PHYSICALLY IDENTIFIES THE DIFFERENT NAMES AND SITES OF OUR PARKS. 
          AND THEN HOW, WHAT TYPE OF ASSET THOSE ARE. 
          THERE'S ADDITIONAL NOTES. 
          THIS VERY, VERY CLEARLY DEFINES WHAT OUR PARKLAND IS, WHAT ITS ASSET IS, OR WHAT LIKE TYPE OF ASSET IS AND HOW IT'S USED. 
          SO NOW I'M GONNA JUMP FORWARD INTO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          UM, KIND OF TRANSITIONING FROM THAT POINT. 
          SO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE WAS ACTUALLY BEGAN IN 2018. 
          SO, UH, WE ARE A LONG TIME GETTING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 
          THERE WAS SOME SPEED BUMPS ALONG THE WAY WITH COVID. 
          UM, BUT WE POWERED THROUGH. 
          AND ULTIMATELY THE FINAL PLAN WAS A, EXCUSE ME, THE FINAL DOCUMENT POLICY DOCUMENT WAS ADOPTED MARCH 25TH, 2025. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE, I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. 
          IT'S ALSO ON THE WEBSITE, UM, THE APPROVED PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES ALL OF THE REGULATION ZONING DISTRICTS, UM, THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED THROUGH THAT. 
          UH, THIS WAS WITH A PROJECT TEAM. 
          WE DID USE A CONSULTANT FOR THIS PROJECT, CLARION ASSOCIATES. 
          UM, THEY ARE SPECIALIZED IN POLICY DOCUMENTS LIKE THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          THEY'VE DONE MANY IN THE REGION. 
          UM, WE ALSO HAD A, UM, A TEXAS LAND USE EXPERT ALSO COLLABORATING WITH US ON THIS. 
          UM, WE ALSO HAD TOWN STAFF. 
          WE DID HAVE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH INCLUDED 12 REPRESENTATIVES, EIGHT RESIDENTS AND FOUR, UM, BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVES. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WAS THE RECOMMENDING BODY AND, UM, CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY ADOPTED THIS DOCUMENT. 
          I JUST WANNA TOUCH ON THE ENGAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. 
          AS 
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I MENTIONED, IT WAS A VERY LONG PROCESS. 
          SO WE DID HAVE A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT, UH, WITH THE GAP THERE FOR, UM, THE PANDEMIC BETWEEN 2019 AND 2021. 
          UH, BUT THIS WAS A VERY, UM, ENGAGED PROCESS, BOTH WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL, UH, TO REALLY RIGHTSIZE THIS CODE. 
          THE LAST TIME OUR CODE WAS SUBSTANTIALLY UPDATED WAS WHEN IT WAS VERY FIRST ADOPTED IN THE SIXTIES. 
          SO THERE WERE MINOR AMENDMENTS, BUT A LOT OF THE, UM, CORE CODE DID NOT CHANGE. 
          SO IT WAS REALLY TIME TO EVALUATE WHAT THE CITY NEEDED AS WE WERE IN A STAGE OF REDEVELOPMENT AND INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT WE NEEDED BOTH FROM AN ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT AS WE WERE REACHING A NEW STAGE IN OUR LIFECYCLE. 
          SO NOW I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE EXISTING CODE. 
          AND WHEN I SAY THAT, THAT'S THE CODE THAT'S IN EFFECT TODAY, NOT THE UDC. 
          UM, SO ORDINANCE 66 WAS APPROVED IN 1965. 
          THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL ZONING ORDINANCE THAT THE TOWN OF ADDISON APPROVED. 
          UH, I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY THE CITY OF ADDISON AT THAT POINT, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY. 
          UM, AND IT ESTABLISHED 14 ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          AND THIS IS ACTUALLY A SCAN OF OUR ORIGINAL ORDINANCE 66. 
          I HAVE MY OFFICE IF YOU WOULD EVER LIKE, UM, UH, A QUICK READ, BUT, UH, MOST OF THESE STILL EXIST IN THE CODE WE HAVE TODAY. 
          UM, THERE HAVE BEEN THREE NEW DISTRICTS SINCE 1960S. 
          IT IS NOT VERY COMMON TO, SO I JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT, THAT IT'S NOT VERY COMMON TO JUST ADD NEW DISTRICTS. 
          UH, WE'VE ONLY DONE THREE SINCE 1965. 
          SO, AND THAT INCLUDES THE MXR OR MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL URBAN CENTER, WHICH IS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE ADDISON CIRCLE ZONING DISTRICT. 
          AND THEN WE ADDED A C TWO OR COMMERCIAL TWO DISTRICT, AND OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICT BECAME COMMERCIAL ONE. 
          NOW I WANNA TRANSITION TO, UH, WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. 
          UM, SO THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL ADOPTED 1965. 
          THIS IS WHAT CURRENTLY IS IN EFFECT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 1ST. 
          UM, AS I SAID, WE'VE ADDED THREE NEW ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE TOWN OF ADDISON HAS NEVER HAD A PARKS PUBLIC OR OTHER SIMILAR ZONING DISTRICT. 
          WE'VE ALWAYS HAD WHAT I'M GONNA CALL YOUR TRADITIONAL ZONING DISTRICTS RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, OR INDUSTRIAL. 
          UM, THIS IS A MAP OF OUR CURRENT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT EXIST TODAY. 
          UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS GREEN ON THIS MAP, WHICH IS INDICATED BY PARKS. 
          UM, MANY YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE THIS OCCURRED IN THE SEVENTIES, WE WERE USING PAPER MAPS. 
          SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A DIGITAL MAP THAT WE WERE UPDATING AS ZONING CODE CHANGES AND IT WAS BEING UPDATED WITH VARIOUS COLORED PENCILS AND THERE WAS, PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO ERASE THEM AND UPDATE THEM AS THERE WAS A EVOLUTION OF ZONING, AS WE TALKED ABOUT ZONING CHANGES ALL THE TIME. 
          UM, THAT WAS ALSO A STAGE OF RAPID REDEVELOPMENT. 
          SO WE SAW A LOT OF ZONING CHANGES DURING THAT TIME AS WELL. 
          UM, AT SOME POINT, STAFF, UM, REMOVED ZONING ON TOWN OWNED PROPERTY AND REALLY GAVE IT A LAND USE DESIGNATION. 
          SO INSTEAD OF IDENTIFYING IT BY ITS TRUE ZONING, THEY CALLED IT A PARK BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS USED AS. 
          HOWEVER, WE DON'T HAVE A PARK ZONING DISTRICT, SO WE DON'T HAVE LAND USE RELATED TO A PARK OR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. 
          SO THROUGH THAT LOSS OF RECORD STAFF IS, IS VERY UNCLEAR WHAT OUR CURRENT PARKS ARE CURRENTLY ZONED TODAY. 
          UM, AND WHY THAT IS AN ISSUE IS WE HAD A REALLY THAT THAT CREATED AN ISSUE TRYING TO TRANSITION THEM VIA THE CONVERSION MATRIX INTO OUR NEW CODE, WHICH IS THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH TAKES EFFECT SEPTEMBER 1ST. 
          SO THE UDC WAS DID NOT INCLUDE A PARKS DISTRICT. 
          UM, IT WAS TRULY CREATED BASED UPON COMPATIBILITY AND THE TRANSITION FROM OUR CURRENT CODE, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT WITH THE TRANSIT, WITH THE TRANSITION MATRIX. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, IT WAS THESE WERE CREATED AND THE INTENT WAS IS THAT OUR PARKS WOULD BE ZONED TO THE MOST COMPATIBLE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH THEY WERE LOCATED IN. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, A CELESTIAL PARK IS A GREAT EXAMPLE. 
          IT WOULD, UM, NOT TRADITIONALLY BE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT TO BE USED AS A NON-RESIDENTIAL, UM, TYPE OF USE LIKE RETAIL, LIKE A COFFEE SHOP. 
          HOWEVER, WE HAVE JAVA AND HOPS AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, WHICH I THINK BROADLY THAT COULD BE AN APPROPRIATE USE 'CAUSE IT'S MORE OF AN EVENT PARK IN AN URBAN AREA. 
          SO WE JUST USE OUR PARKS DIFFERENTLY THERE. 
          WE HAVE A BROAD RANGE OF THEM IN ADDISON FOR HOW SMALL OUR FOOTPRINT IS. 
          UM, I ALSO JUST WANNA NOTE THAT WHAT A DEVELOPMENT STANDARD IS, 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME CONFUSING TERMINOLOGY. 
          SO A DEVELOPMENT STANDARD CAN BE SETBACKS, IT CAN BE HEIGHT, IT CAN BE DENSITY LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLY ON RELATED TO ZONING. 
          SO WHAT 
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WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR STAFF WHEN WE WERE EVALUATING THIS, THIS KIND OF I ISSUE 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE, UH, THE HISTORY THESE RECORDS WAS WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO BE MOST COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT LAND USES TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROTECTING THEIR PROPERTY VALUES AND PROTECTING THE FACT THAT THE TOWN'S NOT GOING TO POTENTIALLY GO AND, AND BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO BY YOU DONATING THEM IN A COMPATIBLE MANNER, THIS WOULD LOCK THEM IN AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          THESE ARE THE R ONE BULK STANDARDS THAT WOULD, THIS WOULD APPLY IN THAT INSTANCE, WHICH, UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT, MOST OF THE HOMES ON WYNWOOD WOULD BE ZONED R ONE. 
          SO, UM, AS AN EXAMPLE, THE WYNWOOD PARK WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THESE GUIDELINES AS WELL, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT. 
          AND ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THESE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT VIA A VARIANCE PROCESS, UM, WHICH PROVIDES THE CHECKS AND BALANCES WITHIN OUR SYSTEM OF, OF GOVERNMENT THAT ADDISON HAS. 
          ANOTHER CONSIDERATION IS SOME OF THE OTHER STANDARDS WITHIN THE UDC, WHICH IS THE INTRODUCTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION ZONE. 
          SO THIS WAS A NEW STANDARD THAT IS NOT IN OUR CODE THAT WE, UM, USE TODAY OR OUR OLD CODE. 
          AND THIS WAS ADDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE HAVE NEW POTENTIALLY SLIGHTLY HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, IT IS NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, THIS IS, UM, THIS IS A SIMPLIFIED, UM, DIAGRAM, BUT THE NEXUS OF THIS, UM, IS THE HIGHER THE, THE BUILDING, THE TALLER THE BUILDING, THE GREATER YOUR SETBACK. 
          SO ONCE AGAIN, ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS IS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE ADDISON CIRCLE ZONING DISTRICT, WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS COMPATIBLE, THIS PARK, ADDISON CIRCLE PARK WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          IF WE DIDN'T AS AN EXAMPLE, THESE BUILDINGS SHOWN IN RED WOULD ACTUALLY BECOME NON-CONFORMING. 
          WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY, UM, HARM THEM IF THEY WERE TO REFINANCE IN THE FUTURE OR THEY WERE TO SELL THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, IT COULD ALSO HARM THEM IF THEY WERE WANTING TO REINVEST BECAUSE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF REINVESTMENT WOULD TRIGGER FULL COMPLIANCE. 
          UM, AND AS WE KNOW, TAKING TWO STORIES OFF A BUILDING TO COME TO COMPLIANCE IS NOT A FEASIBLE SOLUTION. 
          UM, SO IT BECOMES CHALLENGING WHEN YOU CREATE NON-CONFORMITY. 
          ALSO JUST WANNA DISCUSS HOW, UM, PARKS DISTRICTS ARE USED IN OUR COMPARATOR CITIES. 
          UM, STAFF DID AN EVALUATION OF ALL 13 OF OUR COMPARATOR CITIES AND FOUND THAT NONE OF THEM USED A PARKS OR SIMILAR ZONING DISTRICT FOR PUBLIC PARKS. 
          AND I WANNA MAKE THAT NUANCE BECAUSE FLOWER MOUND IS PROBABLY THE, THE MOST, UM, SIMILAR, THAT'S THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. 
          THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TWO DISTRICTS, A WATER RECREATION AND A RECREATION DISTRICTS. 
          UM, BUT I WANNA NOTE THEY DON'T ACTUALLY ALLOW PUBLIC PARKS IN THOSE DISTRICTS. 
          THOSE ARE TAILORED TO, UM, NON-PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITIES LIKE AMUSEMENT PARKS, WATER PARKS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO THAT IS ACTUALLY NOT APPLICABLE TO WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS EVENING. 
          SO, UM, I JUST WANNA BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT, THAT UNIQUE, UH, UNIQUE DISTRICT THERE. 
          ALL THESE OTHER, UM, CITIES OR COMPARATOR CITIES. 
          MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          U UTILIZE PARKS AS A, AS A USE, SIMILAR TO HOW WE HAVE IT STRUCTURED IN THE UDC, WHICH IS THAT PUBLIC PARKS ARE PERMITTED IN ALL OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          THEY DO NOT HAVE A DESIGNATED PUBLIC PARK OR SIMILAR DISTRICT THAT THAT'S HOW PARKS ARE REG OR ZONED WITHIN. 
          THEY JUST USE THEIR, UM, TYPICAL BASE ZONES LIKE WE HAVE, WHICH IS LIKE RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL. 
          UM, AND THEY ALLOW PARKS WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS. 
          NOW I JUST WANNA DISCUSS, THIS HAS CAME UP SEVERAL TIMES DURING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ABOUT, UM, IF WE DON'T ZONE OUR PUBLIC PARKS AS PARKS, THEY LOSE SOME FORM OF PROTECTION. 
          UM, AND WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF PROTECTION. 
          UH, WE HAVE TWO FORMS OF PROTECTION. 
          WE HAVE THE FIRST IS WITHIN TOWN CHARTER, AND THIS IS, UH, DIRECTLY FROM TOWN CHARTER, I BELIEVE IT'S SECTION 11 DASH 22. 
          AND IT, TO SUMMARIZE, IT SAYS THE CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS BOLDED SECTION CITY COUNCIL CANNOT DISPOSE OF PARKLAND FOR DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT REFERENDUM REGARDLESS OF ANY CURRENT OR FUTURE ZONING DESIGNATION. 
          SO BASICALLY IT SAYS WHO CARES ABOUT THE ZONING, YOU CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT A REFERENDUM. 
          THAT'S 
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THE PROCESS. 
          SO I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THIS, THIS PROCESS, UM, THE SIMPLIFIED PROCESS GRAPHIC HERE KIND OF IDENTIFIES WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE IF THAT WERE TO BE PURSUED. 
          UM, SO FIRST THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A NOTICE TO RESIDENTS OF C CITY COUNCIL'S INTENT TO SELL OR DISPOSE OF THIS PROPERTY FOR DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, THEN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE COUNCIL ACTION AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED. 
          CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THAT ACTION TO DISPOSE OF THAT PARKLAND. 
          THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PLACED ON A BALLOT TO HOLD A REFERENDUM, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO ALSO BE APPROVED BY, UM, A MAJORITY OF THE QUALIFIED VOTERS. 
          IF IT IS NOT APPROVED, THEN IT WOULD, COULD NOT MOVE FORWARD. 
          IF IT IS, THEN IT COULD BE SOLD AT THAT POINT. 
          NOW I JUST WANNA POINT OUT IF IT IS NOT ZONED, WHETHER IT'S ZONED AS A PARK OR ZONED FOR ANY OTHER DISTRICT THAT DOES NOT ALLOW THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, THEY WOULD THEN NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS ZONING PROCESS, WHICH I'VE DESCRIBED EARLIER, WHICH IS JUST CITY COUNCIL, UH, PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION, AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL. 
          NOW, THIS IS A SEPARATE, UM, PROTECTION, WHICH THIS ACTUALLY LIVES IN STATE LAW. 
          I WANNA POINT OUT THESE DON'T REFERENCE EACH OTHER. 
          THEY ARE TWO INDEPENDENT, UM, REQUIREMENTS OR PROTECTIONS I SHOULD SAY, THAT LIVE WITHIN THESE TWO DIFFERENT, UM, CODES THAT, UM, PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR PARKLAND OR THE DISPOSAL OF PARKLAND. 
          AND THAT, UM, THIS BOLDED SECTION HERE, IT SAYS, UH, PARK, PUBLIC PARK MAY NOT BE SOLD UNLESS IT THE ISSUE OF THE SALE IS SUBMITTED TO QUALIFIED VOTERS. 
          AND THAT IS THE SAME THING WE JUST DISCUSSED, WHICH IS A REFERENDUM. 
          SO THAT SAME PROCESS THAT I DESCRIBED BEFORE WOULD ALSO APPLY. 
          THE VOTERS WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE ANY SALE, UH, LEASE OR CONVEYANCE OF PROPERTY. 
          NOW, UM, I MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, THIS IS THE MATRIX OF ZONING DISTRICT CONVERSION. 
          THE TOP IS OUR EXISTING ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE TODAY. 
          ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS OUR, UM, NEW DISTRICTS THAT WERE CREATED WITHIN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          SO WHEN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODES WAS CREATED VERY EARLY ON BACK IN 2019, THESE DISTRICTS, THERE WAS MANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW, UH, WE WERE GONNA CREATE DISTRICTS. 
          WE DID NOT WANNA CREATE NON-CONFORMITY. 
          IT WAS NOT OUR INTENT TO THROW OUT WHAT OUR CODE IS. 
          IT WAS OUR INTENT TO BRING FORWARD WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND MAKE IT BETTER AND REFINE IT FOR ADDISON. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WAS DONE. 
          SO WHERE YOU SEE THE BLACK DOTS IN THE MATRIX IS WHAT THE CONVERSION WAS. 
          SO AS AN EXAMPLE, UM, OUR R ONE SINGLE FAMILY OR R 16 BOTH BECAME OUR R ONE. 
          SO NOW ANY, IN THEORY WHAT THIS DID IS ANY PROPERTY THAT WAS ZONED R ONE OR R 16 TODAY ON THE NEW ZONING MAP BECAME R ONE. 
          AND YOU CAN CONTINUE THAT PATTERN AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THE THE CONVERSION MATRIX. 
          I WANNA MAKE A COUPLE OF NOTES. 
          ANYTHING, UM, THAT HAS REMAINED AS IS THAT HAS NOT CHANGED. 
          SO ANY PLAN DEVELOPMENT ON THE CURRENT ZONING MAP TODAY STILL SHOWS UP AS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPOSED MAP. 
          THOSE DID NOT GET AMENDED. 
          AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE M THREE, THAT'S A NEW DISTRICT THAT WAS CREATED. 
          UM, THERE WAS IDENTIFIED TO BE, UH, A NEED TO ACCOMMODATE MORE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, UH, WHICH WAS WHY THAT NEW DISTRICT WAS CREATED. 
          YOU ALSO SEE THAT'S WHY THERE IS NO PROPERTY THAT IS NOW ZONED M THREE ON THE NEW ZONING MAP. 
          SO, UM, NOW WE'RE REALLY GETTING TO, UM, THE MEAT OF IT, IF YOU WILL. 
          THIS ON THE LEFT YOU HAVE YOUR EXISTING ZONING MAP AND ON THE RIGHT YOU HAVE YOUR PROPOSED, UM, AS YOU SEE ALMOST 60% OF OUR LAND MASS IS ACTUALLY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHAT THAT KIND OF PINK MAGENTA COLOR IS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF CHANGE. 
          IT KIND OF LOOKS VERY SIMILAR. 
          YOU ALSO SEE THE ADDISON AIRPORT, UM, IT'S I THREE TODAY. 
          IT BECOMES ADDISON AIRPORT. 
          WE ESSENTIALLY MADE THE I THREE THE ADDISON AIRPORT, OR WE DID DISTRICT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A LOT OF OUR, OUR LAND DID NOT CHANGE DRASTICALLY AS FAR AS THE ZONING. 
          SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS OUR EXISTING ZONING MAP. 
          I WANNA POINT OUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE PARKS DISTRICT. 
          THAT IS A REPRESENTATION THAT WAS ADDED, UM, ERRONEOUS ERRONEOUSLY AT SOME POINT IN TIME. 
          AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP. 
          SO NOW I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH THE AREAS OF INCONSISTENCY THAT DID NOT FOLLOW THE CONVERSION MATRIX WE HAVE, UM, EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN RED IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          EVERYTHING YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS MAP IN GREEN IS WHERE PUBLIC 
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PROPERTY IS LOCATED. 
          UM, SO THESE WERE AREAS WHERE WHEN LOOKING AT THAT CONVERSION MATRIX, UM, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          THE NEW DISTRICT WHERE IT WOULD BE CONVERTING TO DID NOT MAKE SENSE FOR VARIOUS REASONS. 
          AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THOSE. 
          UM, AND SO WE WANTED TO POINT THESE OUT. 
          SO WHY THIS WAS DONE THIS WAY, I JUST WANNA GIVE A LITTLE COLOR TO THAT, IS WE DID NOT HAVE WHAT THE APPROVED DISTRICTS WERE. 
          SO, AND IT TOOK A LOT OF TIME. 
          WE WENT THROUGH EVERY SINGLE PARCEL, PARCEL BY PARCEL. 
          WE EXAMINED IT, WHAT ITS LAND USE IS TODAY, WHAT ITS ZONING IS TODAY, IF IT MADE SENSE IN THE CONVERSION, WHAT OUR CURRENT, WHAT OUR NEW STANDARDS WERE IN THE UDC AND IF IT CREATED SIGNIFICANT NON-CONFORMITY. 
          SO WE EVALUATED, I BELIEVE THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE 12,000 PARCELS ONE BY ONE. 
          SO INSTEAD OF US DOING THAT BEFORE WE HAD THE ADOPTED DISTRICTS, WE WAITED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE ADOPTED DISTRICTS AND COULD PURSUE THIS EXERCISE, UM, AND PRODUCE A, UM, UH, A, A MAP THAT COMPLIED WITH THE UDC. 
          SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THESE PARCEL BY PARCEL. 
          UM, THE FIRST SEVERAL ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL SCENARIO, SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THEM FAIRLY QUICKLY. 
          PLEASE, UH, LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UM, SO THE FIRST SEVERAL PARCELS ARE LOCATED NEAR CORRUM DRIVE AND LANDMARK PLACE. 
          THESE ARE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON WERE ZONED INDUSTRIAL ONE, UM, TODAY. 
          SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO ACTUALLY DOWNGRADE THEM TO A COMMERCIAL GENERAL. 
          THIS STILL ALLOWS THE EXISTING USE IN THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, BUT IT WOULD NOT ALLOW THINGS LIKE MANUFACTURING, WHICH IS NOT A DESIRE IN THIS AREA. 
          ANYWAYS, UM, THEN THIS IS ACTUALLY ACROSS THE STREET. 
          THE PROPERTY WE JUST LOOKED AT IS ACTUALLY THIS ONE. 
          THIS IS THE SAME SCENARIO. 
          THESE ARE OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT, UH, WERE ZONED INDUSTRIAL. 
          ONE. 
          HOW OUR CURRENT CODE IS WRITTEN IS IT'S LIKE A PYRAMID SYSTEM. 
          SO EVERYTHING, SO WHILE OFFICE IS ALLOWED IN OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, IT'S ALSO ALLOWED IN OUR INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS. 
          SO INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF REZONING THESE, AT SOME POINT THEY PROBABLY SAID IT WAS ALLOWED. 
          WE'RE JUST GONNA DEVELOP UNDER INDUSTRIAL. 
          WELL NOW WE'RE EXPANDING SOME OF OUR USE ALLOWANCES. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T BECOME A CONCERN. 
          UM, SO ONCE AGAIN, SAME SCENARIO. 
          THIS WOULD BE, UH, INDUSTRIAL ONE, IT WOULD BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. 
          WE ARE DOWNGRADING IT. 
          ONE STEP TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL. 
          AND THEN THE LAST IN THIS AREA, THIS IS TO THE SOUTH, ACROSS THE STREET, THE EXACT SAME SCENARIO. 
          ITS OFFICE. 
          WE ARE DOWNGRADING IT TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL. 
          THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS THE, UH, EXISTING US POST OFFICE ON AIRPORT PARKWAY. 
          UM, THIS, UH, IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL TWO AND THE MATRIX CONVERT MATRIX CONVERSION WOULD MAKE THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL GIVEN ITS ADJACENCY TO ADDISON CIRCLE. 
          UH, WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO DOWNGRADE THIS TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL. 
          UH, WE DID GET THE QUESTION, WHY DIDN'T WE CONVERT IT TO THE ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT SUCH AS AN M TWO OR AN M THREE. 
          UM, THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT WOULD CREATE, MAKE THE ENTIRE SITE NON-CONFORMING BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE MIXED USE DISTRICT. 
          A MIXED USE DISTRICT ONCE PARKING IN THE BACK, IT WANTS THE BUILDING UP AT THE FRONT, UM, ENHANCED SIDEWALKS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS WHAT I DESCRIBED EARLIER IS IT WOULD MAKE THIS SITE NONCONFORMING, NONCONFORMING, EXCUSE ME, AND PROVIDE A HINDRANCE FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, THE NEXT PROPERTY IS THE, UH, HOME TWO SUITES. 
          THIS IS, UM, UH, ADDRESSED OFF BELTLINE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY SANDWICHED IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS BLOCK. 
          UM, AND THE CONVERSION, IT'S EXISTING COMMERCIAL. 
          TWO, THE CONVERSION WOULD MAKE IT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND WE ARE PROPOSING COMMERCIAL GENERAL. 
          I WANNA POINT OUT THAT THIS HOTEL WAS APPROVED VIA SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND I BELIEVE 2017. 
          SO THE HOTEL WOULD STILL BE PERMITTED BY WRIGHT AND THERE WOULD BE NO, UM, NONCONFORMITY CREATED WITH THAT 'CAUSE THE SUP DOES NOT CHANGE. 
          IT RUNS WITH THE LAND. 
          AND THEN I, UH, ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THIS IS, UM, VERY BLOWN OUT BECAUSE THIS IS IN RELATION TO THE DART, UM, RAIL LINE AND CORRIDOR. 
          UM, SO IT IS IDENTIFIED AS PARK ON OUR CURRENT MAP TO THE LEFT, YOU SEE THERE. 
          UM, SO THERE IS NO CONVERSION AS WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED. 
          AND SO, UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A COMBINATION OF THE M1 AND THE M FOUR, DEPENDING UPON ITS ADJACENCY TO LIMIT UNFORESEEN NON-CONFORMITY BASED UPON, UM, VARIOUS, UH, ADJACENT USES. 
          THEN UM, WE ARE NOW TRANSITIONING TO PUBLIC PROPERTY. 
          SO THESE ARE GOING TO BE MOSTLY PARKS AND OTHER TOWN OWNED FACILITIES. 
          UH, 
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SO ALMOST ALL OF THESE, UH, WILL ARE DESIGNATED AS PARK ON OUR CURRENT MAP. 
          SO THEY DO NOT HAVE A STRAIGHT ACROSS CONVERSION. 
          UH, SO STAFF LOOKED AT ONCE AGAIN, THE CURRENT, UM, CONDITION, WHAT IT WAS USED FOR, THE ADJACENT USES AND LIMITING, UM, BOTH POTENTIAL CONCERNS FOR THOSE ADJACENT USES AND NON-CONFORMITY. 
          SO NORTH ADDISON PARK IS PROPOSED AS R TWO. 
          UM, THIS IS, UH, BELTWAY PARK OR SOME SOMETIMES REFERRED TO AS, UH, SAM'S CLUB PARK. 
          I'M NOT ACTUALLY SURE THE OFFICIAL NAME. 
          UM, BUT UH, WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING THIS TO BE R TWO. 
          THE LAND, UH, WHICH THE TOWN OWNS, BOTH THE ATHLETIC CLUB AS WELL AS AROUND THE ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          THAT INCLUDES LIKE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, UH, SAND VOLLEYBALL COURTS. 
          AND THE PLAYGROUND, UM, IS PROPOSED TO BE R TWO. 
          THE, UM, DOME PARK AND REDDING TRAIL IS ALSO PROPOSED TO BE CONVERTED TO R TWO. 
          THE RAWHIDE PARK AND TRAIL IS PROPOSED TO BE CONVERTED TO R TWO, I SHOULD SAY ZONE TO R TWO. 
          THERE'S NO CONVERSION. 
          UM, QUORUM PARK IS PROPOSED TO BE R TWO AS WELL. 
          NOW, ADDISON CIRCLE AREA OR THE VARIOUS PARKS WITHIN THIS. 
          SO YOU HAVE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, YOU HAVE THE, UM, CONFERENCE CENTER AS WELL AS BECKERT PARK AND BOSS PARK. 
          UM, AND PARKVIEW, UH, THE PARK ON OFF, UH, PARKVIEW AS WELL. 
          THOSE ARE ALL PROPOSED TO BE R OR M FOUR, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH, UM, WAS CONVERTED FROM THE URBAN CENTER OR ADDISON CIRCLE ZONING DISTRICT. 
          THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, WHAT IT MEANS THAT M FOUR IS THE LEAST INTENSIVE DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS THE INTENDED USE WITH MINIMIZING IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING AREAS. 
          I'M NOT TELLING YOU THAT M FOUR IS THE LEAST INTENSIVE USE. 
          I'M SAYING THAT GIVEN THESE CONDITIONS THAT IT MINIMIZES IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING USES, THAT IS THE LEAST INTENSIVE THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND. 
          SO I DON'T WANT, UM, THERE TO BE CONFUSION THAT STAFF IS SAYING THAT M FOUR IS A NOT AN INTENSIVE ZONING DISTRICT BECAUSE IT IS, IT'S OUR MOST INTENSE MIXED USE DISTRICT. 
          THE, UH, OLD TOWN HALL, THE FACILITY WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT TO BE R TWO AND THEN THE VARIOUS PARKS, UM, OFF OF WYNWOOD AND CELESTIAL ROAD. 
          UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TO BE R ONE BECAUSE THOSE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. 
          UM, EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN THIS LIGHT, YELLOW OR WHITE COLOR IS R ONE. 
          THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ON WYNWOOD IS PINK BECAUSE IT IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. 
          BUT I WANNA POINT OUT THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY BASED UPON THE R ONE DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE TODAY. 
          SO IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT, UM, WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          UM, SO THESE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER TOWN FACILITIES. 
          UH, WE ARE PROPOSING, UM, TO BE R TWO AS WELL. 
          AND, UM, THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES. 
          SO STAFF DID PROVIDE NOTICE WITHIN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW. 
          UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL QUESTIONS, BUT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY FORMAL STATEMENTS, UM, IN OPPOSITION OR IN SUPPORT OF, OF, UM, THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS MAP. 
          AND IN CONCLUSION, OH, SORRY, PNZ ACTION, THEY DID SUPPORT THIS PROPOSED MAP, UM, AT THE JULY 15TH MEETING, FIVE TO TWO. 
          AND NOW IN CONCLUSION, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. 
          THANK YOU, LESLIE. 
          NICE PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WHO HAS A QUESTION FOR LESLIE? OKAY, DARREN. 
          UM, SO MY DECK'S DIFFERENT THAN YOU, WELL SLIDE DECK THAN, UH, WHAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE THERE. 
          SO SOME SLIDES ARE MISSING. 
          THEY ARE IN THE AGENDA, IT'S DIFFERENT. 
          UM, I WOULD SAY I ADDED THOSE GRAPHICS, BUT I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. 
          YEAH, I THINK THE, THE INTENT, THE CONTENT'S REALLY STILL THERE. 
          SO IN SLIDE SEVEN WAYS BACK, START AT THE BEGINNING. 
          UM, I LOST MY WHAT DESIGN? UM, SO, UM, WHAT DEFINES A PARK? THAT ONE? UM, SO IF IT'S IN THE PROS MASTER PLAN, THEN IT IS A PARK THAT IS CORRECT. 
          THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS THAT A PARK CAN BE ESTABLISHED AS A PARK. 
          UM, SO ONE OF THOSE IS ITS DESIGNATION IN THIS PLAN AS AN EXISTING PARK OR GREENVILLE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IS WHAT, WHAT WE ACTUALLY DESIGNATE AS A PARK 
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MM-HMM . 
          UM, BECAUSE ZONING DISTRICTS MAY NOT BE THE BEST WAY. 
          AND IS IS, DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT'S THE BEST PRACTICE WAY TO MAKE IT A PARK NECESSARILY CORRECT. 
          THE ZONING DISTRICT. 
          CORRECT. 
          ZONING DOES NOT PROVIDE CALLING A PARK AND USE PROTECTION DISTRICT. 
          UM, SO ON, ON SLIDE I HAVE SLIDE FIVE. 
          WHAT'S THE, DO YOU KNOW THE HEADING? UH, IT'S, IT'S, UH, WHO CAN CHANGE THE, UH, THE ZONING? SO CITY COUNCIL CAN CHANGE THE ZONING AT ANY TIME? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          STATE LAW GIVES COUNCIL DISCRETION AS MUCH PROTECTION AS WE PUT ON A PARK TODAY. 
          IT CAN BE CHANGED TOMORROW UNLESS, UH, OH, THE ZONING CAN BE CHANGED. 
          CORRECT. 
          IF WE WERE TO CALL IT A ZONE, A ZONING DISTRICT. 
          AND, UH, SLIDE 14 AGAIN, THIS ONE MAY BE A LITTLE OFF. 
          KEEP GOING. 
          THAT ONE. 
          SO THAT, THAT LEADS US KIND OF TO THE EXISTING, LEADS US TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A PARKS DISTRICT. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND SO IT'S MISLEADING, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          THAT'S ON SLIDE 24 ALSO. 
          UM, SO GO TO SLIDE 19 AND 21 ISH. 
          SORRY, IT WAS BACK, RIGHT? THIS ONE? NO, THE ONE THAT, UH, IS THE COMPARATOR CITIES. 
          OH, APOLOGIZE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO THERE'S A COMMENT MADE THAT SOMEBODY GOOGLED, UM, PARK DISTRICTS IN CITIES AND THAT THE PARK DISTRICTS ARE IN ALL CITIES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, OR MANY OF THE CITIES, OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? IS, IS THERE ANY, I I CAN'T SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THAT, TO THAT RESOURCE. 
          DONE. 
          THE ZONING DISTRICT CALLED A PARK. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, UH, I'VE PROVIDED THE LINKS HERE. 
          UM, SO IF YOU CLICK THEM, IT WILL TAKE YOU, UM, IT WILL TAKE YOU TO A PAGE THAT LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          THIS IS PROBABLY ACTUALLY A MORE, A CLEAR REPRESENTATION. 
          SO IT'S GONNA TELL YOU, UM, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY IN THE UDC. 
          IT'S UH, SECTION 3.11, UH, THAT CAN, THAT SAYS THESE ARE THE ESTABLISHED ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW I CAN TELL YOU, UM, I USED, I USED, UH, CHAT GPT TO TRY TO PULL THIS DATA AND IT GAVE ME ALL INCORRECT INFORMATION BECAUSE IT IS WHAT IT, WHAT THE RESULTS I WAS GETTING WHEN I DID THAT, IT WAS SAYING, DO THESE HAVE PARK REQUIREMENTS? AND IT WAS GIVING ME WHAT THE, WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE. 
          LIKE OUR PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE, WHEN I WAS CLICKING ON THE LINKS THAT I WAS GETTING THROUGH CHAT, GPT MM-HMM . 
          IT WAS TAKING ME TO THAT. 
          AND SO I HAD TO PHYSICALLY GO TO EACH OF THEIR, THEIR MUNI CODES OR THEIR, WHEREVER THEY KEEP THEIR CODES ONLINE. 
          AND I HAD TO FIND THEIR EQUIVALENT OF SECTION 3.1 DASH ONE TO GET THAT TABLE OF WHAT ARE YOUR ACTUAL DISTRICTS. 
          SURE. 
          SO, ONCE AGAIN, I DID, I DID THE SOURCING FOR YOU. 
          RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S VERY HELPFUL TO, TO, TO GET THE BACKGROUND. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANNA DO IS, IS WHAT'S BEST PRACTICE HERE? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, UM, VERY DETAILED SPECIFIC USES, BUT HOW, WHAT CAN BE BUILT THERE, SETBACKS, STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT ZONING DISTRICTS ARE FOR. 
          I'M JUST TRYING, TRYING TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE TO ME. 
          SO, UM, ON SLIDE 21, 20 21, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A CHANGE TO A PARK. 
          I WANNA POINT OUT THIS ONE. 
          ONE OF THEM SAYS, UH, DI DISPOSE, BUT IT REALLY, UM, THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, TALKS MORE IN DETAIL ABOUT LEASE OF A PARK SALE OR LEASE. 
          'CAUSE YOU CAN HAVE A HUNDRED YEAR LAND LEASE THAT YOU CAN GRANT TO A BUSINESS AND, AND THEY BUILD A APARTMENT THERE. 
          AND IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, AND IF THAT WASN'T COVERED, THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. 
          TO DO THIS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE BY THE VOTERS. 
          SO, REFERENDUM, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          AND, AND, AND OUR INTENT, I JUST WANNA TOUCH ON THAT. 
          OUR INTENT, UM, OR EXCUSE ME, OUR INTERPRETATION, I CAN DEFER TO LEGAL TO CLEAR THIS UP, IS ANY, ANY, UM, TEMPORARILY. 
          SO IF WE NEEDED TO, PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT NEEDED TO RESAW A DOG PARK AND WE HAD TO CLOSE IT FOR A WEEK, THAT WOULD NOT BE, YOU KNOW, US DISPOSING OF IT. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE IT AND ENHANCE IT AND MAINTAIN IT. 
          US DOING A 99 YEAR LEASE TO SAY, GO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH IT. 
          THAT IS A VERY, THAT IS A, NOT A TEMPORARY CLOSURE. 
          SO THAT IT WOULD BE SEEN AS, YOU KNOW, A LEASE OR DISPOSAL CONVEYANCE FOR A LONG TERM. 
          SO CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE 40? IT'S THE LAST, ONE OF THE LAST ONES ON 5,300 BELTLINE TOWN HALL. 
          THAT ONE. 
          SO WHERE IS THE FINANCE BUILDING ON THAT? IS IT 
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LEFT WHERE? RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS OAKS NORTH DRIVE. 
          SURE. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS IS PROPOSED TO BE R ONE, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND WHAT IS IT NOW? WE DO NOT KNOW. 
          IT'S UNKNOWN. 
          IT, IT'S NOT EVEN, UM, AT ONE POINT IT DIDN'T EVEN HAVE ZONING AT ALL. 
          IT WAS JUST DELETED. 
          SO IT WAS BLANK. 
          SO TECHNICALLY, IF THAT WERE TO BE PURCHASED SOME WAY AND SOMETHING WERE TO BE DONE THERE, THERE, THERE WAS NO RULES. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THERE NO ZONING. 
          I WOULD HAVE, UM, LIKELY DISCLOSED TO CITY MANAGEMENT AND WE WOULD'VE RESOLVED THAT PRIOR TO CONVEYANCE OF THAT LAND, UM, . 
          BUT, SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS I'VE HEARD FROM THE CITIZENS IS WHAT USE OF THE LAND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE SOLD, IT'S NOT GONNA BE LEASED. 
          SO WE DECIDE, I MEAN, SOMEBODY, I DON'T KNOW WHOSE IT WAS. 
          MAYBE IT WAS RANDY SUGGESTED, WELL, WE'RE GONNA PUT A, UH, POLICE STATION THERE. 
          EVERYBODY WANTS PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOOD FOR ALL. 
          WE HAVE TO HAVE IT. 
          UM, WE LOVE THE, THE FIRE AND POLICE. 
          WE'RE GONNA PUT A POLICE STATION ON A PARK. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO WHO APPROVES THAT? THAT WOULD BE CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND I, I DON'T WANNA FINANCE BUDGETING IS A DIFFERENT SUBJECT, WHICH I'LL LET DAVID ADDRESS. 
          WE'RE JUST GONNA USE THAT LAND FOR A USE THAT IS NOT REALLY CLEAR HERE. 
          SO HOW, HOW CAN THAT HAPPEN? THAT'S, OH, SORRY. 
          YOU MEAN UNDER THE EXISTING CONDITIONS? I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION. 
          UNDER THE, UH, UNDER THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS TOO. 
          UNDER THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, I CAN, IF YOU GIMME A MOMENT, I CAN TELL YOU THE EXACT LAND USE RESTRICTIONS RELATED TO THE R ONE DISTRICT AND WHAT PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          UM, BUT ULTIMATELY THAT WOULD BE IN, IN EITHER SCENARIO. 
          SO LET'S SAY THAT THE ZONING DOES ALLOW IT, CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THAT AS WELL AS THE, THE BUDGETARY IMPLICATIONS OF THAT. 
          SURE. 
          UM, IF IT IS NOT ZONED FOR A POLICE STATION, AND THAT IS THE DESIRE OF CITY COUNCIL, THEY WOULD JUST GO THROUGH A REZONING PROCESS AS AN EXAMPLE, TO REZONE IT TO COMMERCIAL LIMITED, WHICH COULD ALLOW A PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY. 
          AND THEN WOULD ALSO HAVE TO FOLLOW UP ON THE, THE BUDGETARY IMPLICATIONS OF BUILDING A NEW FACILITY LIKE THAT. 
          SO ANOTHER THING THAT'S BROUGHT UP WAS, UH, OVERLAY DISTRICTS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO HOW, IF WE WERE TO USE AN OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF THAT AND HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN A ZONING DISTRICT? OR IS IT A ZONING DISTRICT? YEAH, SO, UM, THE SHORT ANSWER IS IT'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENT. 
          UH, IT'S USED THE SAME AS A ZONING DISTRICT. 
          UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ESTABLISHED AN OVERLAY DISTRICT IN THE UDC. 
          IT'S CALLED THE AIRPORT OVERLAY. 
          UM, THAT'S, UM, BEING, YOU KNOW, REFINED WITH THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT PROJECT. 
          BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT OVERLAY DOES IS IT FLOATS OVER THE EXISTING BASE ZONING, WHICH YOUR BASE ZONING IS BASICALLY ANY OF THESE DISTRICTS. 
          SO ABOVE HERE, I GUESS IT COULD BE THESE TWO, BUT, UM, IT FLOATS OVER THEM. 
          AND IT PROVIDES POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL OR LESSER RESTRICTIONS THAN WHAT THE BASE ZONING MAY, UM, APPLY. 
          SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE AIRPORT, UM, A GOOD THING IS WE'RE GONNA ALLOW AIRCRAFT STORAGE IF IT'S IN THE OVERLAY. 
          IF YOU'RE NOT IN THE OVERLAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA ALLOW STORAGE OF AIRCRAFT, JUST AS, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THAT'S A REAL STANDARD, BUT AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE. 
          YEAH, I UNDERSTAND IT. 
          UM, SO, UM, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO AS COUNCIL TO, UM, MAKE IT MORE OF A, OF A VOTER APPROVED CHANGE, OF A LAND OF A PARK USE? UM, CAN WE, UH, PROPOSE A, UM, UH, A RESOLUTION OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO DESIGNATE ALL THESE ARE PARKS, ACTUAL PARKS, AND ANY CHANGES OF USE MADE TO THOSE PARKS HAS TO HAVE SOME X, Y, Z PROCESS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW. 
          MAYBE THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION. 
          WELL, I DON'T, I THINK WHAT WE'RE SHOWN IS THAT'S NOT NECESSARY FOR ALL OF THE PARKS THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE PARKS PLAN, OPEN SPACE PLAN. 
          BUT AS AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT, IF YOU WANTED TO DECLARE THIS SITE A PARK, THE FINANCE BUILDING AREA, A PARK, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL COULD DO BY RESOLUTION. 
          OKAY. 
          A RESOLUTION. 
          SO THERE'S, I WANT TO GET TO THE, THE, THE CONCERNS THAT WE ALL HAVE, VARIOUS PEOPLE HAVE FOR VARIOUS REASONS. 
          AND HOW DO WE ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS? UM, JUST SAY NO IS NOT A REALLY GOOD THING. 
          YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE A CHANGE AND, AND MAKE, MAKE THINGS WORK. 
          UM, SO IF WE DO AN OVERLAY DISTRICT, FOR EXAMPLE MM-HMM . 
          UH, AND WE PASS THIS TONIGHT AND WE DO AN OVERLAY DISTRICT IN THE FUTURE, WE PUT IT ON OUR AGENDA TO DO, OR THAT PROCESS THAT SEEMED LIKE IT COULD BE A PRETTY INVOLVED PROCESS. 
          'CAUSE YOU MAY HAVE DIFFERENT ONES FOR DIFFERENT PARKS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, WHEN DO WE START THAT? UM, SO THAT'S, UM, THAT COULD BE BEGAN, UH, AT THE DISCRETION OF COUNCIL, AT DIRECTION OF COUNCIL. 
          DAVID, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, I, HEY, WELL, IF WE GET THROUGH THIS AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL MUST CONSIDER, WE'D HAVE A WORK SESSION 
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AND IF WE GOT DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO PURSUE THAT, WE WOULD PURSUE IT. 
          AND, AND THAT CAN BE AT ANY, ANY POINT. 
          IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, I KNOW THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE POST THE FINANCE BUILDING, UH, BEING, UH, RESIDENTIAL NECESSARILY. 
          MAYBE A HOUSE OR TWO GETS BUILT THERE. 
          UM, AFTER ALL, IT IS RIGHT BESIDE A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I MEAN, IT, IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO SOME PEOPLE. 
          UM, PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE MAY NOT WANT IT NEARBY. 
          UM, SOME, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE TOWN MAY WANT TO HAVE A VOTE ON WHETHER THAT IS CONVERTED TO PARKLAND OR USED FOR RESIDENTIAL INSTEAD OF JUST A, A VERY SMALL PART OF THE TOWN MAKING THE DECISION ON TOWN PROPERTY, VALUABLE TOWN PROPERTY. 
          UH, THAT IS SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE, WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER FROM A HEALTHY, UM, YOU KNOW, VOTER, UH, APPROVAL OF, OF THE TOWN'S PROPERTY. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE NOW. 
          THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME GO SO LONG. 
          . 
          ANYBODY ELSE? MARLEY, I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION. 
          LESLIE, UH, DID I, I THINK, I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING, UM, PROHIBITING US FROM CREATING PARK DISTRICTS, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT NOW OR OVERNIGHT MM-HMM . 
          BUT IN TIME, I MEAN, IS THERE SOMETHING PROHIBITING US FROM CALLING, UM, ZONING A PARK OR YEAH. 
          ZONING. 
          A PARK. 
          A PARK? UH, NO. 
          UM, SO IS WHAT, UM, TO ELABORATE ON THAT, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE A PROCESS THAT, UM, I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TO TAKE SEVEN YEARS, BUT, UH, THAT I WOULD EN ENCOURAGE SEVERAL MONTHS AND, AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I GUESS I THINK IT DOES REQUIRE INPUT ON, ON HOW, HOW THOSE REGULATIONS THAT WE ARE RE THE RESIDENTS OF ADDISON WANT TO APPLY OR MAYBE NOT APPLY TO OUR PARKS. 
          AND ALSO, UM, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, I TRULY WANNA ELABORATE OR, UH, INVESTIGATE ANY POTENTIAL UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES ON, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DON'T WANNA MAKE JAVA HOPS NONCONFORMING. 
          I GET IT. 
          UM, JUST, I GET IT. 
          I GET IT. 
          I, I JUST SEE SOME OF THIS STUFF AND IT'S JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, IF I, IF I PAID THE MONEY, THE KIND OF MONEY IT WOULD TAKE TO BACK UP TO CELESTIAL PARK AND, AND, UM, AND SAW A ZONING CHANGE TO RESIDENTIAL, THAT WOULDN'T MAKE ME FEEL COMFORTABLE. 
          I MEAN, I'M, I BOUGHT INTO A PARK MM-HMM . 
          AND SO THERE'S, YOU CAN GO ON AND ON WITH THAT, UH, ALL THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. 
          BUT, UM, I JUST, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE WAS SOMETHING PROHIBITING US FROM MAKING, UM, PARK ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          NO. 
          SO YOU SAID NO, I THINK IT'S JUST BEST, WHAT IS BEST PRACTICE, WHICH I, UM, I MEAN, WE COULD DEBATE WHAT IS CONSIDERED BEST PRACTICE. 
          I THINK YOU'LL SEE FROM OUR COMPARATOR CITIES, IT'S NOT A COMMON THING. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I THINK IN SOME INSTANCES OR COULD BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OF THOSE, THOSE OR THOSE, UM, ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO I THINK, I THINK THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS RELATED TO THAT. 
          I, I COULD SEE IT BEING VERY COMPLICATED IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          LIKE A MIXED USE PARK. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE JOB AND HOPS POSSIBLE BEER GARDEN YEAH. 
          MAYBE WE HAVE A DOCENT ALL THE THAT MAY COME YEP. 
          A DOCENT PAVILION THAT'S CONSIDERED AN OFFICE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF ASPECTS TO CONSIDER, BOTH, BOTH EXISTING TODAY, BUT ALSO WE NEED TO GO THROUGH LIKE OUR PROS PLAN. 
          WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          WHAT IS THE VISION OF THESE, THESE SPACES, AND HOW DO WE ACCOMMODATE THOSE IN OUR PARK DISTRICT? AGREED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS? CHRIS? GOT ONE JUST REALLY QUICK. 
          SO, I MEAN, I MEAN, TO ME THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO PROTECT OUR PARKS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU HAD MENTIONED THE SEVENTIES. 
          THERE WERE SOME ISSUES ABOUT STAYING ON TOP OF THE PARKS AND HOW THEY WERE IDENTIFIED. 
          I THINK THAT WAS JUST RECORD KEEPING. 
          I DON'T WANNA, YOU KNOW, BE DISPARAGING ON ANY, ANY STAFF AT THE TIME. 
          SO, SO YOU FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT NOW THAT WE'VE GOT ALL OF OUR PARKS IDENTIFIED? OH, YES. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          YES. 
          OUR, OUR RECORD KEEPING HAS IMPROVED TREMENDOUSLY SINCE THE SEVENTIES. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD TO HEAR. 
          AND THEN IF, IF, IF WE DID HAVE A ROAD COUNCIL THAT WANTED TO SELL A PARK OR DEVELOP A PARK AGAIN, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY. 
          SO FIRST WE'VE GOT THE CHARTER THAT WILL, WOULD PREVENT THAT, AND THEN THERE'S STATE LAW THAT WOULD PREVENT THAT. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND, UM, YEAH, SO THERE'S, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PROTECTIONS. 
          ONCE AGAIN, NEITHER OF THESE REFERENCE EACH OTHER. 
          SO EVEN IF, UM, STATE LAW WERE TO CHANGE, AS AN EXAMPLE, OUR CHARTER STILL EXISTS. 
          AND, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT COULD BE AMENDED, BUT THAT IS A MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT PROCESS THAN JUST A ZONING CHANGE. 
          UM, SO IT'S, IT'S VERY PROTECTED. 
          IT DOES REQUIRE APPROVAL OF THE VOTERS TO, TO, TO DISPOSE OF PARKLAND. 
          SO A REZONING WOULDN'T REALLY PROTECT IT ANYMORE ANYWAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I GUESS I WOULD, UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK OF 
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ALL PROPERTY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT ITS LAND USE IS TODAY OR WHAT ITS ZONING DISTRICT IS AS DEVELOP DEVELOPABLE PROPERTY IN THE SENSE THAT WE COULD, UM, DEVELOP, UM, A BEER GARDEN. 
          WE COULD DEVELOP A INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A FARMER'S MARKET. 
          NOW THAT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S ON A PARK, BUT IT STILL IS DEVELOPABLE. 
          BUT WHAT THAT MEANS IS JUST WE'RE PROVIDING POTENTIALLY ASSETS THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS FOR PUBLIC USE. 
          FOR PUBLIC USE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, SO WE SHOULD STILL PROTECT THOSE WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS, SO IF WE, THE THINGS WE WE'RE CONSIDERING ZONING, LIKE R TWO, LIKE THE ATHLETIC CENTER, IF YOU, AGAIN, IF YOU HAD A COUNCIL THAT WANTED TO SELL THE ATHLETIC CENTER, COULD THEY DO IT WITHOUT A VOTE WITH AN R TWO? NO. 
          THAT IS IDENTIFIED IN THE PROS PLAN AS A PUBLIC, UM, PARK ASSET. 
          AND THAT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S SIGNIFIED AS AN ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY HARD TO SEE, BUT IT'S ACT IT HAS ITS OWN LITTLE SYMBOLOGY. 
          GREAT. 
          YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS CHRIS. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS? RANDY? YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I DIDN'T WANNA STOP YOU DURING YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT WHEN YOU GOT TO QUORUM PARK MM-HMM . 
          YOU SAID QUORUM PARK IS GONNA BE R TWO, I BELIEVE IT'S R TWO. 
          YES. 
          AND THE REST OF 'EM THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SEEMS TO BE WHAT'S ADJACENT? I, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER R TWOS ADJACENT TO THAT PART. 
          SO THAT IS ADJACENT TO APARTMENT, RIGHT? RIGHT HERE. 
          AND SO THE INTENT OF THAT IS THAT AN APARTMENT, AND I DON'T WANNA, THIS IS GETTING A REALLY TECHNICAL IN THE CODE, BUT THE APARTMENT, A DISTRICT IS IDENTIFIED AS A LEGACY DISTRICT. 
          AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE'VE RETAINED IT IN THE C CODE FOR THE PURPOSES OF NOT HARMING THAT PROPERTY, BOTH FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE OR A NON-CONFORMITY PERSPECTIVE. 
          AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHEN YOU DECLARE A PROPERTY TO BE NON-CONFORMING, SIGNIFICANTLY LIMITS ITS ABILITY TO REINVEST IN THE PROPERTY AND POTENTIALLY LIMITS FINANCING, UH, IF IT WERE TO CHANGE HANDS. 
          SO THE LEGACY DISTRICTS WERE CREATED, AND THAT IS THE APARTMENT DISTRICT, WHICH SAYS YOU CAN CONTINUE AS YOU ARE. 
          UM, HOWEVER, NEW PROPERTY CANNOT REZONING IN REZONE INTO THE APARTMENT DISTRICT. 
          AND ONCE THAT PROPERTY REDEVELOPS OR REZONES OUT OF THE APARTMENT DISTRICT, YOU, YOU LOSE THAT LEGACY STATUS, IF YOU WILL. 
          SO IT ESSENTIALLY WAS CREATED TO PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR WHAT IS EXISTING TODAY. 
          UM, AND SO THE INTENT BY MAKING IT R TWO IS THAT IT IS ADJACENT TO GARDEN STYLE, LOW DENSITY APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL BE THERE IN THE FUTURE. 
          WE KNOW THAT IT CAN CONTINUE AS IT IS TODAY AS LOW DENSITY GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS, BUT IF IT REDEVELOPS, IT WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REZONING PROCESS. 
          SO, AND TO FURTHER PROTECT THE PARK FROM ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT, WE INCUR, WE ARE PROPOSING R TWO BECAUSE THERE IS AN UNKNOWN AND WE CAN EVALUATE IT WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU IF THAT'S GONNA BE IN FIVE YEARS OR 30 YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          OUR, OUR PARKS IN TOWN MM-HMM . 
          DOESN'T EACH PARK HAVE A DESIGNATION, UH, WITHIN THE PROS PLAN? I BELIEVE THERE ARE CATEGORIES THAT KIND OF, UM, BROADLY DEFINE USE SPEAK, BUT WHAT I CAN'T SPEAK, WHAT ARE THOSE CATEGORIES? UM, JANET, WOULD YOU MIND STEPPING IN? SURE. 
          I NEED THAT. 
          JANET TIDWELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. 
          SO THE DESIGNATION THAT WE HAVE IN THE PROS PLAN IS WE HAVE IDENTIFIED DESTINATION PARKS, WHICH WOULD BE LIKE VITRUVIAN PARK AND ADDISON CIRCLE PARK. 
          WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND THEN WE HAVE URBAN PARKS, THE URBAN PARKS OR ANYTHING THAT'S IN A MIXED USE DISTRICT LIKE BECKER PARK, UM, BOSS PARK IN ADD IN THE ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT. 
          WHAT IS CELESTIAL PARK? IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. 
          RIGHT. 
          I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAY NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. 
          I HEARD YOU SAY OTHERS AND MM-HMM. 
          DO WE NOT HAVE SOMETHING DESIGNATED AS A POCKET PARK? WE DO NOT HAVE A POCKET PARK DESIGNATION. 
          UM, OUR POCKET PARKS THAT WE DO HAVE FIT INTO THE URBAN PARK DESIGNATION BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY'RE JUST THE LITTLE SMALL POCKETS WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE MEDIANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? SO THE LITTLE SMALL, LIKE, LIKE IN OAKS NORTH, LIKE THE ISLANDS IN OAKS NORTH, THOSE ARE GREEN SPACES IS WHAT'S DESIGNATED IN THE PROS, MASTER PLAN, GREEN SPACE AND BEAUTIFICATION AREAS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH GREEN SPACES THEN? 
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THE RIGHT, THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          YOU MEAN LIKE GREEN BELTS? NO, NO, THE GREEN SPACES. 
          GREEN SPACES THROUGH OAKS NORTH. 
          UH, I THINK THERE'S SOME, UM, MIDWAY MEADOWS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, IN MIDWAY MEADOWS. 
          I, I THINK WE'VE GOT THOSE TYPE GREEN SPACES THAT HAVE LITTLE SEATING AREAS AND GATHERING SPOTS THROUGHOUT TOWN. 
          YEAH, THOSE ARE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SO THOSE ARE TOWN RIGHT OF WAY. 
          THOSE DON'T HAVE ZONING. 
          THEY'RE, WE DON'T ZONE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IF WE ALREADY HAVE A DESIGNATION FOR THESE PARKS, WHY DID WE JUST NOT GO ONE STEP FARTHER AND JUST CALL A P ONE, A P TWO P THREE AND KEEP THAT DESIGNATION AND, AND KEEP THE PUBLIC TRUST? 'CAUSE WHEN YOU HEAR PEOPLE, WHEN YOU TELL PEOPLE THAT CELESTIAL PARK OR, UH, ANY OTHER PARK IS BEING REZONED, RESIDENTIAL OR MULTIFAMILY, THERE IS NO UNDERSTANDING TO THE PUBLIC THAT THAT'S BEING PROTECTED. 
          THEY, THEY SEE THAT AS SOMETHING OTHER THAN A PARK MM-HMM . 
          AND TO KEEP THE PUBLIC TRUST. 
          WHY CAN'T WE GO THAT ONE STEP FARTHER AND JUST CALL IT A PARK AND TAKE THE EXTRA STEP? AND THAT'S JUST ONE MORE LAYER OF PROTECTION THAT WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH. 
          UH, FOR A, I I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THIS STAFF. 
          I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THIS COUNCIL. 
          MY CONCERN IS FOR A COUNCIL 20 OR 30 YEARS FROM NOW, AND A STAFF 20 OR 30 YEARS FROM NOW THAT WANNA COME IN AND DO SOMETHING ROGUE. 
          20 YEARS AGO, I WOULD'VE NEVER THOUGHT OUR CITY WOULD'VE BEEN 80% APARTMENTS. 
          YOU'D HAVE BEEN LAUGHED OUTTA TOWN IF YOU'D HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT. 
          SO THINGS CAN CHANGE MM-HMM . 
          UM, I, I JUST REALLY WANT SOME TYPE OF PARK DESIGNATION. 
          AND I JUST FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE SO EASY WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE SERVICE CENTER, THERE'S A BIG MAP ON THE WALL AND EVERYTHING IS GREEN ON THAT MAP. 
          THAT'S A PARK OR A GREEN SPACE. 
          I JUST DON'T SEE IT AS A HARD PROCESS. 
          AND WAS THAT AN OVERSIGHT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF ZONINGS IN THE UDC OR DID, WAS THAT AN INTENTIONAL ACT? UH, THAT WAS INTENTIONAL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          SO WE, UM, WENT THROUGH THAT UDC PROCESS, WHICH, UM, VERY LONG PROCESS. 
          WE HAD THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND WE DID DISCUSS BOTH, UH, WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WITH COUNCIL AT THAT TIME. 
          OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS, THERE WAS MANY ELECTIONS THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS. 
          UM, SO THERE WAS CHANGES BOTH, UH, PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION AS WELL AS COUNCIL. 
          AND WE DISCUSSED THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS AND WHAT THOSE WERE GOING TO BE. 
          UM, AND IT WAS, SO ALSO, I'M GONNA BACK UP ONE STEP. 
          SO AT THE START OF THIS PROCESS, ONE OF THE, THERE WAS REALLY A COUPLE OF, OF CRITICISMS THAT WE, OUR, THE COMMUNITY FACED IN RELATION TO OUR DEVELOPMENT. 
          THE ONE, ONE WAS THAT, UM, OUR CODES WERE VERY CONFUSING. 
          THEY LIVED IN A LOT OF PLACES. 
          IT WAS VERY COMPLEX AND DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR REGULATIONS WERE, WHICH IS WHY WE TRANSITIONED TO A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          THEY'RE ALL RIGHT HERE IN THIS DOCUMENT. 
          IT'S ALL THERE. 
          ONE, ONE STOP SHOP. 
          THE OTHER IS THAT OUR CODE WAS VERY COMPLEX AND, AND I'M SIMPLIFYING IT, BUT A LOT OF TIMES EXTRA DISTRICTS EQUALS GREATER COMPLEXITY BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S ALL THIS NUANCE. 
          YOU CAN ONLY HAVE SO MUCH DRASTIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CERTAIN DISTRICTS. 
          UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE WE HAVE AN I, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND, AND LIKE A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH CHANGE BETWEEN DISTRICTS MAYBE IN A VERY LARGE COMMUNITY WITH MUCH, UM, HIGHER INTENSITY INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING. 
          MAYBE YOU HAVE AN I ONE, AN I TWO, AN I THREE, BUT ADDISON JUST DOESN'T HAVE, OR AN I FOUR ET CETERA. 
          ADDISON DOESN'T HAVE THAT, UM,  DIVERSITY OF THOSE TYPES OF USES. 
          SO ONCE AGAIN, ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF THIS WAS TO TRY TO SIMPLIFY AND COMBINED DISTRICTS WHERE THEY EXIST. 
          SO THERE WAS A DISCUSSION, UM, ABOUT ADDING A PARKS DISTRICT AS WELL AS ADDING A COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT. 
          SO THOSE WERE TWO NEW DISTRICTS THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TODAY. 
          AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, ADDISON HAS NEVER HAD, UM, DUE TO, AND WHAT WAS DISCOVERED THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND EVALUATION OVER MANY YEARS WAS THAT ADDING THE DISTRICTS CREATED COMPLEXITY. 
          SO WE HAD TWO, WE HAD TWO AVENUES. 
          WE WENT, UM, I'M GONNA SAY FULL BORE, AND WE CREATED 
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POTENTIALLY FOUR PARKS DISTRICTS AND A COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT, MAYBE THREE PARKS DISTRICTS AND A COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT. 
          SO YOU, UM, ADDED, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE THAT 25% MORE NUMBER OF DISTRICTS THAN WE ALREADY HAD IN ORDER TO TRULY, UM, MEET THE INTENT OF THE PROS PLAN AS YOU JUST REFERENCED. 
          AND TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR DIFFERENT PARKS AND TO PROTECT ADJACENT PARKLAND. 
          SO TO SIMPLIFY THAT, WE SAID, WHY DON'T WE JUST DO THE, THE COMPLETE REVERSE AND JUST SAY PUBLIC PARKS ARE ALLOWED IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS AS OPPOSED TO MAKING OUR, OUR CODE EVEN MORE COMPLEX, BOTH FROM AN ADMINISTRATION, FROM STAFF, BUT ALSO FROM P AND Z AND COUNCIL. 
          UM, 'CAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, THAT MEANS WHAT? THAT WOULD, I DON'T KNOW 'CAUSE IT'S NOT DRAFTED YET. 
          BUT WHAT THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY MEAN IS THAT ANY PARK THAT WOULDN'T BE ZONED IN ONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS COULD NOT BE USED AS A PUBLIC PARK. 
          JUST SO, UM, I I GUESS I DON'T HAVE LIKE A DIRECT QUESTION OR ANSWER FOR YOU OTHER THAN IT WAS EVALUATED AT LENGTH WITH VARIOUS BODIES THROUGH THE TIME, THROUGH THAT PERIOD OF TIME WHILE THE UDC WAS BEING DRAFTED. 
          AND ULTIMATELY THE DISCUSSIONS LED TO IT BEING REMOVED. 
          WELL, IT, IT, TO ME, IT MAKES IT MORE ALARMING AND MORE CONFUSING IF WE DON'T HAVE A PARKS DISTRICT IN THERE. 
          AND IF A DEVELOPER WERE TO COME TO TOWN AND LOOK AT OUR MAP, WELL HE SEES R ONE WHERE WE HAVE A PARK. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, SO TO ME THAT MAKES IT FAR MORE CONFUSING AND, AND ALARMING TO PEOPLE TO THINK THAT THAT IS BEING REZONED, EITHER MULTIFAMILY OR RESIDENTIAL OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, THE OTHER THING THAT'S ALARMING, WHY WAS THIS NOT BROUGHT UP WHEN UDC WAS PASSED? SO THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ON IT, UM, EARLIER ON IN THE PROCESS. 
          NOT AT THE NOT, WE DIDN'T SAY LIKE, HEY, THERE'S NO PARKS WE DISCUSSED, WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU AS WE FURTHER EVALUATE. 
          AND THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NO ZONING WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER ON IN THAT PROCESS WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A PARKS DISTRICT. 
          SO, UM, ONCE AGAIN, IT DISCUSSED AT THE MARCH 25TH MEETING, IT WAS DISCUSSED PRIOR TO THAT DURING THE SEVEN YEAR PROCESS. 
          SO, SO NONE OF THESE CONCERNS ARE COMING TO YOU AS A SURPRISE. 
          WE'RE NOT SURPRISING YOU WITH ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS. 
          THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT WE DON'T HAVE PARK ZONING. 
          UM, I, I WILL SAY I WAS VERY SURPRISED, UM, THAT THESE, ABOUT HEARING THESE CONCERNS, UM, THE PAST MONTH AND A HALF, TWO MONTHS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, MY, MY QUESTION ABOUT THE UDC IS WHY WAS THE ZONING NOT BROUGHT UP ALONG WITH UDC? YOU PASSED THE UDC AND NOW YOU'RE COMING TO US AT THE LAST SECOND WITH THE ZONING REQUEST. 
          SO WHY WEREN'T THOSE IN THE SAME PACKAGE? SO THAT WAS ALWAYS THE INTENT. 
          UM, I, I KIND OF ELABORATED A LITTLE BIT ON THAT EARLIER, BUT THAT WE, IT TOOK STAFF PER I'M, I WOULD MORE THAN 60 HOURS, UM, OF TIME. 
          WE PHYSICALLY WENT THROUGH EVERY SINGLE PARCEL, LOOKED AT WHAT THE ZONING IS TODAY, WHAT THE LAND, HOW, HOW IT'S PHYSICALLY USED TODAY, WHAT, WHAT IT'S DEVELOPED AS, AND WHAT IF THE CONVERSION THAT WAS ON THE CONVERSION MATRIX, IF IT MADE SENSE. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, THERE'S THOUSANDS OF PARCELS. 
          SO I, I AM CERTAINLY NOT QUESTIONING THE AMOUNT OF WORK YOU PUT INTO YES, PLEASE DON'T, SO DON'T MISCONSTRUE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE INTENT WAS, IS WE DID NOT HAVE, THIS WAS NOT FINALIZED PRIOR TO MARCH 25TH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO FOR US TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS THAT TOOK WEEKS, TOOK A, AS I MENTIONED, A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME WHEN WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY, THESE WEREN'T FINAL YET. 
          THESE WERE STILL PROPOSED. 
          THEY HAD NOT BEEN ADOPTED. 
          SO IT WAS ADVANTAGEOUS TO USE OUR RESOURCES EFFICIENTLY BY SAYING, LET'S FINALIZE THESE DISTRICTS AND THEN CONDUCT THAT, THAT EXERCISE, WHICH TOOK MANY, MANY WEEKS. 
          WELL, PARKS IS, WE TALK ON THIS COUNCIL A LOT ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE AND WHAT, WHAT WE VALUE IN THE TOWN AND WHAT WE WANNA PROTECT AND WHAT WE WANNA STRIVE TO HAVE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND PARKS IS WAY UP AT THE TOP OF THAT LIST. 
          THAT IS WHAT MAKES, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES ADDISON A GREAT PLACE TO BE. 
          WE HAVE GREAT GREEN SPACES AND PARKS, AND I WANNA SEE THE ABSOLUTE BEST PROTECTION. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A, A, A ZONING OR AN OVERLAY OF THAT MM-HMM . 
          AND I'M SORRY, BUT I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT ZONE PARKS AS, AS PARKS. 
          I DON'T WANT ANY AMBIGUITY WHEN SOMEBODY LOOKS AT A MAP AND SAYS, CELESTIAL PARK IS ZONED R ONE, WHAT'S UP 
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WITH THAT? PEOPLE ARE NOT ENJOYING THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I WANNA, UM, I CAN YOU, IT'S A HIDDEN SLIDE. 
          IT'S LIKE ONE OF, OR TO LAST. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANNA SHOW SOMETHING REALLY QUICK. 
          48. 
          SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ISN'T LIVE YET. 
          SO EXCUSE ME. 
          THIS MAP RIGHT HERE, THIS IS OUR ONLINE ZONING MAP. 
          IT'S AN INTERACTIVE ONLINE MAP. 
          WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON SOME NEW RESOURCES IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE UDC. 
          AND I JUST WANNA TOUCH ON THIS 'CAUSE THIS DID COME UP. 
          UM, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THIS, SO I WANNA TOUCH ON IT. 
          WHAT OUR INTENT IS, IS THAT THIS, SO THESE THINGS ON THE LEFT IS, IS THEY'RE CALLED LAYERS AND YOU CAN CHECK THEM ON AND OFF. 
          AND THEY'RE DIFFERENT TOOLS. 
          UH, WE CAN PROVIDE, UM, THE AIRPORT NOISE CONTOUR WE CAN PROVIDE, THE PARKS WE CAN PROVIDE. 
          I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF ENDLESS. 
          IF WE HAVE THE DATA, WE CAN INCLUDE IT ON HERE. 
          UM, AND SO THIS IS REALLY GOING TO BE A DEVELOPMENT RESOURCE MAP. 
          AND SO FROM, TO YOUR POINT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALWAYS INTENDED TO ADD ON HERE ANYWAY. 
          SO WE WOULD PHYSICALLY TAKE THE LAYER THAT WE SH WE SHOWED FROM THE PROS PLAN, AND IT WOULD BE A LAYER ON HERE AND THEY COULD TURN IT ON AND OFF AND IT WOULD, I DON'T KNOW IF THE COLOR WILL PROBABLY BE GREEN . 
          AND IT WOULD, WHEN YOU TURN IT ON, IT WILL THEN HIGHLIGHT WHAT OUR TOWN PARKS ARE. 
          MAYBE WE HAVE A DIFFERENT ONE FOR TOWN FACILITIES. 
          UM, AND LIKE THE CONFERENCE CENTER, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, I'M KIND OF SPITBALLING HERE WHAT WE COULD DO. 
          UM, BUT WE ARE NOT, UH, WHILE THE CODE IS A GREAT TOOL TO ADMINISTER AND, AND DRIVE DEVELOPMENT AND STEER DEVELOPMENT, UM, WE ARE CONTINUING TO EVALUATE WHAT RESOURCES WE CAN PROVIDE TO BOTH BE TRANSPARENT WITH THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS DEVELOPMENT. 
          'CAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, UM, WHERE THIS CODE IS SERVING. 
          IS IT SERVING DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT. 
          SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE TO THAT, THAT GROUP. 
          I, I HAVE NO QUABBLE ABOUT YOUR INTENTIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF HAVE PUT IN. 
          BUT TO THAT POINT MM-HMM . 
          IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE THE WORK. 
          YOU'VE GOT GREEN RIGHT THERE,  GO IN AND ZONE THAT PARKS MM-HMM . 
          AND I WOULD BE ALL IN FAVOR OF A FACILITY ZONING AS WELL. 
          THAT, I MEAN, THOSE TWO JUST MAKE SENSE TO ME. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE NOT TO DO IT. 
          UH, WE TALK ABOUT BEING TRANSPARENT AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BE, AND YOU ARE BEING, UH, BUT IT WOULD JUST TAKE SOME DOUBT AWAY FROM PEOPLE IF THEY SEE THAT ZONE PARK RATHER THAN RESIDENTIAL OR MULTI-FAMILY OR COMMERCIAL, WHATEVER IS ADJACENT TO IT. 
          AND I JUST, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT ZONE PARKS AS PARKS. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          WHO, WHO ELSE HAS QUESTIONS? I GOT A QUICK, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION JUST FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, WITH A THREE ACRE PARCEL THAT'S ADJACENT TO OUR, OUR TOD, WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA DEVELOP THAT IN A CERTAIN WAY AND WE COULDN'T BECAUSE THAT PROPERTY HAD DEED RESTRICTIONS. 
          WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO PLACE DEED RESTRICTIONS ON OUR PARKS JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NEVER DEVELOPED AND ALWAYS AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE OR PUBLIC USE? UM, WELL, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT THAT WOULDN'T LIKELY BE RECOMMENDED. 
          AND, AND I THINK ALSO WOULD BE DUPLICATIVE OF THE PROTECTIONS THAT OUR PARKS ALREADY HAVE. 
          SO OUR PARKS, UM, HAVE, HAVE, UM, THE ULTIMATE RESTRICTION THROUGH THE TOWN CHARTER, UH, WHICH IS PROTECTED FROM STATE LAW, BUT ALSO IN TWO DIFFERENT STATE LAWS THAT SAY WE CANNOT CONVERT THOSE, UH, OR OR DISPOSE OF THOSE FOR ANY PRIVATE USE WITHOUT THE VOTERS GOING TO AN ELECTION AND TELLING US TO DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND I, AND I, AND, AND ON THAT POINT ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY FOR CLARITY, THE, UM, ZONING IS A, IS A, UM, IS A LAYER OF PROTECTION, UH, OR A LAYER OF REGULATIONS MORE, MORE IMPORTANTLY. 
          BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE, UM, LAYER OF REGULATIONS THROUGH THE MASTER PLAN PARKS MASTER PLAN, WHICH WE HAVE ADOPTED. 
          AND ANYBODY WHO GOES AND DEVELOPS PROPERTY IN THIS TOWN WOULD ALSO HAVE TO COMPLY, ALREADY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE PARKS MASTER PLAN AS WELL. 
          UM, SO NOT ONLY CAN WE NOT CHANGE DESIGNATION OF PARK LAND OR SELL THAT OFF TO A PRIVATE DEVELOPER WITHOUT THE VOTERS TELLING US TO DO THAT. 
          BUT IN ADDITION, NOBODY CAN COME IN AND PUT IN USES OR USE PARK LAND. 
          WE CANNOT COME IN AND PUT IN USES AND USE PARK LAND THAT'S IN CONTRAVENTION OF OUR ADOPTED, UH, OKAY. 
          PROS PLAN. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO WE HAVE WHAT IS WHAT I WOULD CALL AN, IN EFFECT AN OVERLAY DISTRICT ON IT THROUGH THAT PLAN. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HOWARD, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH, I'LL BE BRIEF. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          I WAS EXTREMELY THOROUGH. 
          I DO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. 
          UH, PRIOR TO COMING TO THE MEETING, I WENT ONLINE AND I WENT TO GOOGLE. 
          I DIDN'T, DON'T USE CHAP 
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CHAD, GBT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT IS. 
          BUT, UM, I WENT IN AND JUST PUT, DOES FRISCO HAVE A ZONING FOR PARKS? RICHARDSON, COPPEL, UNIVERSITY PARK, HIGHLAND PARK, CARROLLTON, FARMERS BRANCH, DALLAS AND PLANO. 
          I ONLY PUT IN NINE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT CAME BACK WITH EVERY ONE OF 'EM SAYING YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          NOW, I DON'T THINK THEY ALL HAVE A PARK ZONING. 
          I THINK AS I READ THIS, IT SAYS, YES, FRISCO, TEXAS DOES HAVE ZONING FOR PARKS. 
          THAT ONE'S PRETTY CLEAR. 
          RICHARDSON, TEXAS DOES HAVE ZONING REGULATIONS THAT INCLUDE PROVISION FOR PARK. 
          SO SOME OF THESE SAY YES, BUT THEY PROBABLY ARE SAYING WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO I'M NOT REALLY CHALLENGING THAT. 
          AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE A THOROUGH EXPLANATION. 
          I, I AM CONCERNED BECAUSE THE REASON I WAS ALL HOT AND BOTHERED ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS AND THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. 
          AND I THINK THIS EXPLANATION THAT YOU JUST GAVE US IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO REPEAT TO EVERYONE WHO QUESTIONS THIS. 
          AND FOR ME, IT WOULD JUST BE SIMPLE IF WE JUST WENT AHEAD AND LIKE RANDY DID THE ZONING. 
          SO THEN WE HAVE ZONING FOR PARKS AND THAT JUST KIND OF CHECK THE BOX. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT IT GIVES US ANY MORE PROTECTION THAN THAT. 
          WE HAVE MY CONCERN THAT I'M HEARING, FIRST I WAS HEARING ABOUT SELLING A PARK, I THINK, THINK I'M SATISFIED THAT CAN'T BE DONE, BUT THE USE FOR THE PARK IS STILL BOTHERING ME. 
          AND THE, UM, OVERLAY SEEMS TO BE A SOLUTION TO THAT. 
          SO I WOULD PREFER TO SEE US EITHER DO AN OVERLAY FOR PARKS OR HAVE A PARK ZONING IF THE PARK ZONING DOESN'T CREATE MORE COMPLICATIONS. 
          I DO APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATION. 
          I DO THINK I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT IT IS VERY HARD TO EXPLAIN THAT TO, WELL, I DON'T HEAR FROM 17,000 PEOPLE, BUT THE FEW THAT I DO HEAR FROM, I HAVE TO GIVE THEM AN EXPLANATION. 
          SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DESIGNATION FOR PARKS OR AN OVERLAY. 
          I'D BE HAPPY WITH EITHER ONE. 
          WELL, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT AT ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE. 
          YES, CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY MENTION THAT WE, BECAUSE OF HOW THE UDC IS STRUCTURED AND IT'S ALREADY ADOPTED, WE CANNOT TONIGHT APPLY ANY DISTRICTS THAT ARE NOT ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE UDC TO THE ZONING MAP. 
          THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT COMES BACK AT A FUTURE DATE. 
          OKAY. 
          MAYOR, MAYOR DAN HAS HIS HAND UP. 
          OH, DAN, GO AHEAD SIR. 
          THANK YOU, MARLON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT, GREAT STUFF LESLIE. 
          UM, IF YOU CAN GO TO SLIDE 34. 
          OKAY. 
          WHICH IS A SIMILAR QUESTION TO WHAT RANDY'S IN RANDY'S INQUIRING ABOUT R ONE VERSUS R TWO. 
          DO YOU KNOW WHAT CAN YOU, SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN R ONE R TWO? AND I WILL AGREE THIS, THIS, THIS DEFINITION OR THIS EXPLANATION OF TRYING TO CALM NERVES, UH, AS WE DO HAVE AN ELDERLY AUDIENCE IN OUR TOWN AS MUCH AS YOUNG. 
          WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE R TWO DESIGNATION FOR THE BELTWAY PARK VERSUS CELESTIAL PARK WHEN THEY'RE BOTH IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS? YEAH, SURE. 
          UM, SO, UH, YEAH, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THIS, SO YOU SAID THE BELTWAY PARK, SORRY ABOUT THIS. 
          OKAY, SO THE BELTWAY PARK, CORRECT. 
          UM, SO THIS WAS SELECTED BASED UPON COMPATIBILITY WITH THE ADJACENT LAND USES. 
          AND REALLY WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE BETWEEN R ONE AND R TWO AND THEN MOVING INTO R THREE AND IS, YOU SEE, UM, R TWO R ONE IS REALLY, UM, LIKE LARGE LOT SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES. 
          SO WHEN YOU MOVE INTO R TWO AND R THREE, YOU START INTRODUCING THOSE, WHAT'S COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING TYPES. 
          SO THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE DUPLEXES AND ATTACHED TOWN HOMES OR TRIPLEXES, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM. 
          UM, SO THE REASON THAT SOME OF THESE HAVE BEEN DIFFERENTIATED BETWEEN R ONE AND R TWO IS BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR PARK, UM, REFERENCING BELTWAY PARK IS, IT IS ADJACENT TO, UM, UH, EXCUSE ME, ADDISON GROVE. 
          UM, IT'S ALSO ACROSS THE STREET FROM TOWN LAKE AS WELL AS THE, UM, ADDISON RESERVE PROJECT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ALL MORE CONSISTENT WITH A, THEY'RE ALL ATTACHED TOWN HOMES OR ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS FEE, SIMPLE TOWN HOMES. 
          SO THE R TWO IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IN THAT REGARD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I GUESS, YEAH, I'M, I'M, I'M, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, BUT NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION MIDWAY MEADOWS BEING RIGHT THERE ADJACENT TO IT AS WELL. 
          I GUESS IT'S BEING OUTWEIGHED BY THE GROVE OR IT'S BEING OUTWEIGHED IN IN THAT RESPECT. 
          UM, BUT TO TO, TO GIVE IT A SIMPLE EXPLANATION, WE DON'T HAVE ONE. 
          IT IS, IT IS VERY, IT IS A WORDSMITHING OR IT'S A, IT IS A LOT TO COMPREHEND. 
          UM, ESPECIALLY HAVING TO GO IN, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, THE LAYERS ON OUR WEBSITE, YOU HAVE TO PEEL ON OR PEEL OFF. 
          AND 
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THERE, THAT, THAT LEAVES OPEN FOR INTERPRETATION THAT WHAT IF YOU DON'T PUT THE LAYER UP AND YOU WERE JUST TO SEARCH FOR PARKS, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE GREEN SPACES IS SIMPLIFIED. 
          I JUST THINK WE'VE COMPLICATED IT BY USING SOME OF THESE TERMS. R ONE, R TWO, R THREE VERSUS A COMBINATION THEREOF. 
          P ONE, P TWO OR PR SOMETHING WHERE IT'S A PARK RESIDENTIAL WHERE YOU'RE COMBINING THE WORD PARK IN RESIDENTIAL. 
          JUST, JUST MY FEEDBACK ON THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU DAN. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UH, IF ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, YOU CAN COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME SEEING NONE. 
          UH, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO, UH, SHARE A COUPLE THOUGHTS AND MAKE A MOTION IF I COULD. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S PARAMOUNT AND WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD ALREADY THE, THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING THIS, THIS ZONING MAP APPROVED, UM, ON THE TIMELINE WE'RE WORKING WITH. 
          SO, UH, I'M, I'M VERY FIXATED ON THAT. 
          THE OTHER THOUGHT I HAVE IS OUR PARKS ARE NOT CURRENTLY ZONED. 
          UM, AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN FOR WHAT, THE LAST 60 YEARS. 
          SO WITH THOSE TWO THOUGHTS IN MIND, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION THAT WE DON'T INCLUDE ANY ZONING TO THE PARKS IN GREENBELT. 
          UM, AND, AND THE LIST OF THAT IS, IS LOCATED IN OUR PROS MASTER PLAN. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN THAT WOULD GIVE, THAT WOULD LET US APPROVE THIS, BUT GIVE STAFF, WE COULD, WE COULD COME BACK, GIVE STAFF SOME TIME THAT THE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY NEED TO CREATE PARK ZONING DISTRICTS, UH, AND WE COULD AMEND THIS MAP AT A LATER DATE. 
          I'LL, I'LL WE LAY IN ON THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON, THE, THE PROBLEM THAT WE RUN INTO WITH THAT TYPE OF CONDITION IN THE, IN THE VOTE THIS EVENING IS THAT WE'VE NOTICED THIS HEARING BASED UPON THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC BASED ON THE INFORMATION WE'VE PROVIDED AND ADOPTED IN THE PROPOSED MAP. 
          AND SO TO AMEND THE MAP AND AMEND THE ZONING DISTRICTS, UM, WOULD, UM, WOULD REQUIRE RE AND PROVIDING THE, THE, THE PRO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU'RE MAKING TO THE PUBLIC FOR THEIR INPUT AND WOULD REQUIRE, AGAIN, US TO COME BACK FOR TWO MORE HEARINGS TO DO THAT. 
          SO, UM, AT LEAST I WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST, UM, US PASSING THAT MOTION BASED ON HOW WE'VE NOTICED THIS PUBLIC HEARING. 
          AND WE CAN ALWAYS REVISIT THIS MARLON, IF WE DECIDE DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THERE. 
          THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN DO. 
          BUT, UH, BUT YEAH, I, I THINK WHAT WE DID TAKE WIT'S, UH, GUIDANCE ON THIS, SO IT, WE, WE COULDN'T CONSIDER THAT CONDITION THAT YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD CALL THAT AN AMENDMENT, RIGHT? WHAT WE'VE PROVIDED IN THE PUBLIC AND WHAT WE'VE OBVIOUSLY WORKED ON FOR STAFF, I SHOULD SAY HAS WORKED ON IN PREPARING THIS, UH, PREPARING THIS UDC AND THE COMPANY MAP IS THE, THAT THOSE ZONING, UM, THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS ARE SHOWN TO BE OVERLAID ON TO THE PARK. 
          THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT CHANGES THEIR DESIGNATION AS A PARK, WHICH IS A SEPARATE DESIGNATION THROUGH OUR PROS PLAN, BUT WE ARE REPRESENTING TO THE, THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE EXTENDING THOSE ZONING DISTRICT BOUNDARIES OVER THOSE AREAS. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE NOTICED FOR THIS HEARING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO IN SHORT, YOUR LEGAL OPINION IS, I CAN'T MAKE THIS MOTION OR WE CAN'T APPROVE THIS MOTION. 
          UH, YOU CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THE MOTION, BUT I DO RECOMMEND AGAINST APPROVAL BECAUSE I THINK WE, WE HAVE NOT LEGALLY PROVIDED NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC OF THIS PROPOSITION THAT, THAT NOTHING TO THE MERITS OF THE PROPOSITION, BUT WE HAVE NOT PROVIDED NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC. 
          AND, AND FOR AFTER SEVEN YEARS OF PUBLIC IN INPUT AND HEARINGS, IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT BEFORE WE MAKE A WHAT IS A SUBSTANTIVE MODIFICATION TO THE PLAN. 
          AGAIN, NOT NOT COMMENTING ON THE MERITS SUBSTANTIVE, JUST MAKE ONE PRACTICAL COMMENT AND LESLIE CAN JUMP IN. 
          I UNDERSTAND WE HAVEN'T HAD ZONING IN THESE FOR 16 A LONG TIME. 
          STILL NOT A VERY GOOD PRACTICE TO NOT HAVE ZONING ANYWHERE. 
          SO I WOULD JUST BE HESITANT IN THAT EXACT SITUATION, EVEN IF IT'S TEMPORARY BEFORE WE GET SOMETHING THAT IS EXTENDS TIME WHERE WE HAVE NO ZONING IN AREAS AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO IF LESLIE COULD CERTAINLY ADD TO THAT. 
          BUT I WOULD HAVE HESITATION TO EVEN ON THE PRACTICAL ISSUE OF DOING THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          IT JUST, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THIS HAS BEEN IN A, UH, UNSAFE FOR EMERGENCY SITUATION FOR THE LAST 60 YEARS, NOT HAVING THESE PARTS ZONED. 
          SO I'M, I'M JUST NOT COMPREHENDING WHAT, UM, THAT POINT. 
          SO DID YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR MOTION? NO, NO. 
          I'M UM, I'LL RESCIND MY MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S SO THIS IS ALL OR NOTHING. 
          YEAH. 
          I'LL STILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          THANK YOU CHRIS. 
          I'LL SECOND SECOND FROM DARREN. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DISCUSSION? 
          [02:40:01]
SO I AM A HUNDRED PERCENT IN FAVOR OF PROTECTING PARKS AND I'D LIKE THERE TO BE DUE PROCESS ON ANY CHANGE OF USE TO PARKS. 
          UH, I SUGGEST WE USE, WELL WHATEVER THE RIGHT TOOL IS. 
          I'M AN AMATEUR, I'M NOT GONNA GO OFF AND PULL ANYTHING OUT OF MY, OUT OF THE AIR TO SAY WHAT TOOL WE SHOULD USE. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE OVERLAY DISTRICTS ARE THE ONES TO USE. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE DOING A ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PARKS. 
          DO THAT IN SHORT ORDER, FOLLOW THE FULL PROCESS THAT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE. 
          AND UM, THE PURPOSE OF THE CODE IS FOR DEVELOPERS, IT'S NOT FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION, RIGHT? FOR THESE ZONING DISTRICTS, IT'S FOR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. 
          IT'S NOT FOR THE CASUAL PUBLIC TO GO READ A ZONING DISTRICT. 
          SO ALTHOUGH IT ALARMS PEOPLE, WE USE ALARMING WORDS LIKE ALARM. 
          UM, WE, MY ANSWER WOULD BE PARKS ARE DEFINED BY THE PROS, THE PARKS RECREATION OPEN SPACE PLAN. 
          IT'S DEFINED BY THAT. 
          THAT'S THE ANSWER. 
          WHAT MAKES IT A PARK? IT'S PROTECTED BY THAT BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          UM, THAT'S MY COMMENTS. 
          I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION IN THE COMMENT IS, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN PLACE A MORATORIUM ON ANY USE CHANGES OF THE PARKS TONIGHT? CAN WE SEPARATELY FROM THIS, SEPARATELY FROM THIS UDC? NO, THERE AGAIN, THERE ARE STATUTORY PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW, INCLUDING NOTICE AND PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANY MORATORIUM ACTION. 
          AND THERE ARE LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY EVALUATE THAT FOR FUTURE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET IT PERFECT. 
          YOU GOTTA SEAL IT AT SOME TIME. 
          YOU'RE GONNA SEAL IT AND THEN THE FIRST THING WE'RE GONNA DO IS MAKE A CHANGE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I WANNA SEAL THIS THING SO THAT AT LEAST WE HAD THE BASELINE THAT WE CAN MAKE A CHANGE FROM THE REASON THIS WASN'T, UM, A FIRESTONE BEFORE BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE SAW THE MAP, THE VISUAL OF YOU'RE APPLYING THE ZONING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT INTO WHAT THE NEW MATRIX IS THAT GOT PEOPLE ON FIRE BECAUSE LIKE MY, WHAT AM I, MY PARK'S GONNA BE THIS ZONE OR THAT ZONE. 
          THAT'S WHY PEOPLE DIDN'T CATCH IT BEFORE. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S MY OPINION. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S MY A HUNDRED PERCENT SUPPORT OF PROTECTING PARKS SUGGEST WE FOLLOW UP IN VERY SHORT ORDER AND DEFINE THE USE, UH, THROUGH WHATEVER THE PROPER TOOL IS. 
          UM, POSSIBLY OVERLAY DISTRICTS. 
          OKAY. 
          DISCUSSION. 
          I JUST, I WANNA SAY I AGREE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY WANT TO, UM, PROTECT THOSE PARKS. 
          I FEEL LIKE BETWEEN THE CHARTER AND STATE LAW WE'RE THERE. 
          I'M VERY HAPPY TO COME BACK AND, AND DISCUSS AS A COUNCIL OVERLAYS AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THERE IN A WAY THAT'LL CLEARLY DEFINE OUR PARKS. 
          GREAT. 
          ONE, ONE QUICK ONE. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE TO COLOR THEM GREEN IN CASE THIS PASSES TONIGHT INSTEAD OF THIS R TWO COLOR? THEY'RE THAT YOU CAN'T TELL THEIR PARKS ON THE MAP. 
          YEAH, SO, UH, NO, UM, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE, WELL, SORRY, I'M THINKING THROUGH YOUR QUESTION. 
          UM, SO I THINK THE ISSUE IS GOING TO BE THAT EACH, FOR THE EASE OF EACH, EACH DISTRICT IS IDENTIFIED ITS OWN DISTINCT COLOR. 
          UM, SO IF WE JUST MADE THEM ALL GREEN, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE POTENTIALLY MORE CONFUSING IN THE SHORT TERM WHILE WE UH, POTENTIALLY AMEND THE, THE UDC IS TO WHAT THE ZONING DISTRICT ACTUALLY IS. 
          UM, 'CAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY ASSIGNED SPECIFIC COLORS AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT PARKS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. 
          SO JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS PARTICULAR PARK, UM, IS PROPOSED TO BE R TWO, WHICH IS KIND OF A, A LIGHT YELLOW COLOR. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE M FOUR. 
          IF WE MADE BOTH OF THEM GREEN, IT WOULD BE, UM, VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ACTUAL ZONING OF THOSE PROPERTIES IS FROM A DEVELOPMENT, UM, REGULATIONS STANDPOINT. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, WHICH IS WHY I RECOMMENDED OR SAID THAT WE CAN ADD A LAYER TO OUR DIS TO OUR ONLINE MAP, AT LEAST IN, IN THE SHORT TERM, TO STILL MAKE THEM COME UP AS GREEN. 
          AND THEN WHEN YOU TURN THE MAP OFF, YOU SEE THE UNDERLYING ZONING. 
          OKAY. 
          OTHER DISCUSSION? YES SIR. 
          YEAH, SO I, MY QUICK QUESTION OR THOUGHT IS THAT ON THAT THAT LAYERING CONVERSATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, LESLIE, IS TO THE PUBLIC, IF WE'RE ON OUR WEBSITE, I FEEL AS THOUGH IT NEEDS TO BE GREEN. 
          AND IF YOU'RE A DEVELOPER, WHICH IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BUSINESS CONVERSATION WITH CITY STAFF, YOU CAN ADD ANY, YOU, TO ME, YOU CAN ADD ANY COLOR YOU WANT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT, IT'S THE CLARIFICATION OR CLARITY THAT SOMEONE GOES TO OUR WEBSITE, OUR TOWNS WEBSITE AND CLEARLY CAN FIND A PARK VERY QUICKLY WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH A LAYER OR SORTING. 
          SO I, I GUESS I'M KIND OF, I'M KIND OF QUESTIONING CAN IT BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND DEVELOPERS OR DEVELOPERS AND RESIDENTS OR RESIDENTS? WHY WOULDN'T WE MAKE IT MORE SIMPLE FOR THOSE 
          [02:45:01]
THAT ARE GONNA GO ONTO OUR TOWNS WEBSITE REGULARLY, WHICH IS LIKELY GONNA BE STAFF, STAFF AND CITY AND RESIDENCE VERSUS DEVELOPERS. 
          UM, WELL LET'S, I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ZONING MAP. 
          THE ZONING MAP HAS TO HAVE COLORS COORDINATED WITH WHAT THE ZONING IS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE COME, COME BACK WITH CONVERSATION ON OVERLAYS. 
          WE HAVE MANY OTHER MAPS ON THE WEBSITE. 
          THE LAYERS CERTAINLY HELP IF WE WANNA COME BACK AND HAVE OVERLAY CONVERSATIONS, WE CAN, COMING UP NOT ACCURATELY CODING THE MAP ISN'T SOMETHING WE CAN DO. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, 'CAUSE THIS, THIS IS THIS HOW IT'S CURRENTLY STRUCTURED. 
          THIS IS THE ZONING MAP. 
          UM, SO WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, LIKE HOW THIS IS A SCREENSHOT FROM THE ZONING MAP. 
          THERE'S ACTUALLY A PARKS AND RECREATION MAP THAT IS SIMILAR AND, AND IT IS, IT'S THE SAME IN TERMS OF STYLE. 
          UM, AND IT'S, IT'S FUNCTION, UM, BUT IT HAS DIFFERENT SYMBOLOGY 'CAUSE IT'S SPECIFIC TO PARKS NOT TO ZONING. 
          UM, SO I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'D SAY ABOUT THAT. 
          , THANK YOU. 
          DID YOU STILL HAVE SOMETHING MORE QUICKLY? YEAH, THE ONLY THING, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, DAVID, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU IS THAT, THAT WE CAN HAVE A, A COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING AN AMENDMENT OF, OF THIS. 
          I IF, IF I'M WHAT I HEAR A FUTURE AT A FUTURE MEETING ASKING FOR OVERLAY, WE'LL HAVE A WORK SESSION WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AND WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE. 
          YEAH, AND I'M, I'M SPECIFIC. 
          UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, UM, ABOUT, UH, ZONING PARK ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          NOT JUST, NOT JUST OVERLAYS, BUT, BUT I, I FEEL LIKE I'VE GOT A GUN TO MY HEAD ON THIS ONE. 
          UM, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, UH, APPROVE THIS ZONING MAP, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ALL ALL TYPES OF, OF, UH, OF ISSUES RELATED TO THAT. 
          UM, SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA APPROVE IT FOR THAT REASON ALONE. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE, UH, YOUR ASSURANCE THAT, THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WE HOPEFULLY, IF WE DECIDE AS A COUNCIL, UH, TO AMEND IT, UM, I'D LOVE TO DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION. 
          AND SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? NA A. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND THAT ITEM IS APPROVED. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR LAST REGULAR ITEM, UH, FOR THE, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, NOT DO ITEM SIX ITEMS 
          [6. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.]
OF COMMUNITY INTEREST TONIGHT, BUT WE DO HAVE ONE, UH, CLOSED SESSION ITEM THAT WE NEED TO ATTEND TO YET THIS EVENING. 
          SO, UH, AND WE, WE CAN JUST DO THAT IN HERE. 
          AND, UH, SO, UH, WE'LL ASK EVERYBODY ELSE TO, UH, SAY GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR COMING AND UH, THANKS FOR HANGING WITH US. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          I'LL GIVE YOU A FREE MEMBERSHIP. 
          THEY CLOSE. 
          OKAY. 
          IT IS 10:15 PM AND THERE'S NO OTHER VISIT BEFORE THE COUNCIL. 
          WE JUST, JUST COME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION AND THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN FROM THE CLOSED SESSION. 
          AND SO WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 10 15 TONIGHT. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY. 
          HAVE A GOOD EVENING. 
          THANK YOU GUYS.
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