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I NOW[1. Call Meeting to Order]
CALL THE REGULAR MEETING OF ADDISON PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ORDER.IT IS TUESDAY, JULY 15TH, 2025.
WE ARE IN THE TOWN HALL BUILDING.
UM, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF ALL COMMISSIONERS HERE THIS EVENING.
UM, AND AS WE DO AT EVERY MEETING,
WE LIKE TO START EVERY MEETING WITH PURPOSE STATEMENT.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SERVES IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO THE TOWN EVALUATING, PLANNING, ZONING, AND SUBDIVISION PROPOSALS, AND PRESENTING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL ON MATTERS OF LAND USE AND PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT.
PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY, EXCUSE ME.
THE COMMISSION'S PRIMARY OBJECTIVE IS TO ENSURE REASONABLE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT BY ADHERING TO THE ESTABLISHED PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND OVERSEEING THE ADMINISTRATION OF ZONING AND SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
THESE EFFORTS ARE INTENDED TO UPHOLD THE SAFETY, WELFARE, AND OVERALL WELLBEING OF RESIDENTS, THE WORKFORCE, AND THE VISITORS.
IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE MEETING, PLEASE FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD.
UH, COREY HAS 'EM, I HAVE A COUPLE ALREADY, UM, IN MY HAND AND I WILL REMIND ALL THAT.
UH, YOU'LL BE ASKED TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
WHEN APPROACHING THE UM, PODIUM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
[1. Consider Action on the minutes from the June 17, 2025 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting.]
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS, UH, WE HAVE A ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS FOR THE JULY OH JUNE SIX 17TH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES.DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? OKAY.
UH, DO I HAVE MOTION OR DO WE JUST APPROVE? CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER IT'S CONSENT.
ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
[2. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on the adoption of new zoning districts in accordance with the Unified Development Code (“UDC”), including changes to the Town of Addison’s laws and regulations regarding zoning districts, subdivision and development, and building and construction and to adopt new zoning districts in accordance with the UDC.]
IS ITEM NUMBER TWO.PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE ADOPTION OF A NEW ZONING DISTRICT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, INCLUDING CHANGES TO THE TOWN, ADDISON'S LAWS AND REGULATIONS REGARDING ZONING DISTRICTS, SUBDIVISION AND DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION, AND TO ADAPT NEW ZONING DISTRICTS IN ORDINANCE WITH THE DDC.
WITH THAT, I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO LESLIE.
THANK YOU, LESLIE NI, DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES FOR THE TOWN.
UM, THIS ITEM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM DID COME BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT THE LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS JUNE 17TH.
HOWEVER, UH, DUE TO SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF VOTES REQUIRED TO PASS ZONING ACTION, IT WAS DEEMED, UH, THAT THERE WAS A STALEMATE.
UM, HOWEVER IT WAS THAT WAS, UM, DONE IN ERROR, IT, THE MOTION ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
UM, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENT TRANSPARENCY AND CLARITY, UM, STAFF HAS RENO THE ITEM AND WE'RE KIND OF STARTING THE PROCESS OVER.
SO WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THIS MONTH, UM, FOR, UH, CONSIDERATION OF A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, SO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS KIND OF THE LAST, UH, STOP FOR THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE PROCESS OR UDC.
UM, THIS PROCESS INITIALLY STARTED IN 2018, UM, AND LED ULTIMATELY VERY LONG PROCESS, WHICH LED TO THE ADOPTION OF THE CODE ITSELF, UH, IN MARCH 20, MARCH 25TH, 2025 BY CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CODE THAT HAS ALL OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS ESTABLISHED, AS WELL AS ALL OF THE CODE ASSOCIATED WITH ALL OF THOSE DISTRICTS.
UM, THAT IS SET TO TAKE, UH, EFFECT ON SEPTEMBER 1ST OF THIS YEAR.
THIS IS THE LAST STEP, WHICH IS APPLYING ALL OF THOSE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED TO OUR ZONING MAP.
UM, OR YOU COULD THINK OF IT AS THE CREATION OF A ZONING MAP USING OUR NEW DISTRICTS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED.
UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT TEAM.
WE DID WORK WITH A CONSULTANT ON THIS PROJECT, CLARION AND ASSOCIATES.
UM, WE DID ALSO, IN ADDITION TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY, WHICH HELPED US WITH THIS PROJECT, WE ALSO, UM, HAD A THIRD PARTY, UM, LAND USE, UM, EXPERT AS WELL, UM, ATTORNEY WORK ON THIS WITH US.
WE HAD, UM, NUMEROUS TOWN STAFF AS WELL AS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH INCLUDED EIGHT RESIDENTS AND FOUR BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVES.
AND THEN, UM, OBVIOUSLY WE HAD THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION YOU ALL AS THE RECOMMENDING BODY AND ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL WHO ADOPTED THE CODE.
UM, THIS WAS THE VARIOUS, UH, ENGAGED, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT OCCURRED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROCESS.
LIKE I SAID, IT STARTED IN 2018, HAS BEEN A VERY LONG PROCESS TO GET HERE.
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UM, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF ZONING IN ADDISON.UM, SO THIS WAS A SNIPPET OF THE ESTABLISHED ZONING DISTRICTS FROM OUR VERY FIRST ZONING ORDINANCE BACK IN 1965.
THIS WAS ESTABLISHED WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 66 THAT WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL, UM, AND IT ESTABLISHED 14 ZONING DISTRICTS.
UH, WHEN WE CREATED THE UDC, UM, MULTIPLE OF THESE DISTRICTS WERE, WELL, ALL OF THEM IN SOME MANY WAYS WERE MODIFIED, REPURPOSED OR ELIMINATED.
UM, SOME OF THEM WE ACTUALLY CARRIED FORWARD AND STILL HAVE IN THE UDC TODAY SINCE THE 1960S.
UM, THREE NEW DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED.
THAT INCLUDES THE MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT URBAN CENTER, UM, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE ADDISON CIRCLE ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, AND THEN, UH, COMMERCIAL TWO WAS ALSO CREATED.
AND THEN, UM, THE PREVIOUS COMMERCIAL DISTRICT BECAME COMMERCIAL ONE.
THESE ARE THE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH INCLUDES, UH, THE ORIGINAL 14 PLUS THE THREE I JUST MENTIONED.
UM, THIS, THESE ZONING DISTRICTS ARE IN EFFECT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 1ST.
UM, 'CAUSE AS I MENTIONED, THE UDC TAKES EFFECT WITH OUR NEW DISTRICTS ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.
UM, TO STAFF'S KNOWLEDGE, ADDISON HAS NEVER HAD A PARKS PUBLIC OR OTHER SIMILAR ZONING DISTRICT DESIGNATION.
UM, SINCE OUR FIRST ZONING ORDINANCE, ALL PUBLIC FACILITIES, PARKLAND, ET CETERA, HAVE HAD SOME FORM OF ONE OF THESE DISTRICTS AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
UM, SO THIS IS OUR EXISTING MAP WITH OUR EXISTING, UM, DISTRICTS.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PARKS IS AN ADDITIONAL DISTRICT, EVEN THOUGH IT DOES NOT EXIST IN OUR DISTRICT STANDARDS.
UM, SO OVER TIME WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A DIGITAL MAP.
NOW, PRIOR TO A COMPUTER AND A GIS SYSTEM, UM, WE USE PAPER MAPS AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
WE HAVE PAPER MAPS FROM THE SEVENTIES, EIGHTIES, AND NINETIES THAT ACTUALLY DESIGNATE MULTIPLE OF OUR TOWN FACILITIES AS PARKS OR PUBLIC, WHICH WE'VE NEVER, AS I JUST SHOWED, WE'VE NEVER HAD A DISTRICT THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS PARKS.
SO, UH, IT'S STAFF'S ASSUMPTION NOW THAT AT SOME POINT IN HISTORY, STAFF AT THAT TIME, UM, CHANGED THE DESIGNATION ON THOSE MAPS TO REPRESENT HOW THE LAND WAS USED, NOT NECESSARILY REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT THE ZONING WAS.
UM, SO DUE TO JUST THE SHEER AGE AND LACK OF RECORD KEEPING OF, OF THOSE DOCUMENTS, UM, THERE'S MULTIPLE TOWN PARCELS THAT STAFF DOES NOT KNOW THE TRUE ZONING FOR.
SO, UH, AS YOU'LL SEE IN SEVERAL SLIDES, WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON A CONVERSION FOR THOSE FOR A ZONING, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY KNOWN CONVERSION BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ORIGINAL ZONING IS.
SO STAFF, UH, FOCUSED ON COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT PROPERTY, UH, UH, NEARBY PROPERTIES, AS WELL AS, UM, TRYING TO LIMIT NON-CONFORMITY WHEN TRYING TO ESTABLISH OR PROPOSED NEW ZONING DISTRICTS FOR THOSE PARCELS.
THESE ZONING DISTRICTS WILL TAKE EFFECT ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.
UM, THE UDC HAS FOLLOWED HISTORICALLY THAT THE SAME PATTERN THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD A PARK ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, AND THAT PARKS ARE PERMITTED BY WRIGHT AND ALL ZONING DISTRICTS.
SO, UM, THAT INCLUDES BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC PARK.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE SEVERAL, UM, SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW THAT HAVE PUBLICLY OWNED OPEN SPACE THAT'S PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE, BUT PRIVATELY OWNED AND MAINTAINED.
SO THAT IS STILL PERMITTED USE, UM, IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS AS AN EXAMPLE.
UM, SO A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES ABOUT HOW THIS, UH, IMPACTS ADDISON'S PARKS AS FAR AS ALLOWING PARKS IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS.
UM, WE REALLY USED, UM, THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP TO THINK ABOUT HOW ADDISON, UM, RESIDENTS AND ADDISON AS A COMMUNITY USES ALL OF OUR PARKS AND FOCUSED ON THE PROGRAMMING OF THOSE AND THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE SURROUNDING AREA WHEN PROPOSING A ZONING DISTRICT FROM THE UDC.
SO, JUST AS A BROAD EXAMPLE, WE HAVE JAVA HOPS, WHICH IS AN EXISTING COFFEE SHOP OR CAFE IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.
UM, THAT TYPE OF USE MAY BE APPROPRIATE AND CURRENTLY, UM, IS IN EXISTENCE AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, BUT THAT TYPE OF USE MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE OR OTHER PARKS SUCH AS, UM, CELESTIAL OR ONE WOOD PARK, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.
UM, ANOTHER EXAMPLE, UM, WHY A ONE ZONING DISTRICT FOR PARKS IS NOT REALLY A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SCENARIO IS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
SO, UM, AS ANOTHER EXAMPLE, ALL NEW STRUCTURES SHOULD, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE THAT THEY MEET SIMILAR SETBACKS AS THE SURROUNDING AREA.
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UM, BULK STANDARDS RIGHT HERE ARE FROM THE R ONE DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE SAME ZONING AS CELESTIAL PARK AND WYNWOOD PARK.UM, THE IDEA IS THAT ANY NEW STRUCTURE, FOR EXAMPLE, A PASSIVE SHADE STRUCTURE, LIKE A GAZEBO BE ADDED IN THAT PARK, UM, AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, IT SHOULD FOLLOW THE SAME SETBACKS AS AN ADJACENT HOME.
WOULD A NEW RESIDENTIAL HOME, UH, IT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE THAT THEY ARE RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE AS THEY COULD HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
UM, I WANNA POINT OUT THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE SETBACKS LIKE THAT CAN ONLY BE MODIFIED VIA A VARIANCE OF THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT.
SO THAT'S LIKE A CHECKS AND BALANCES PROVIDES A CHECK AND BALANCE TO OUR, UM, DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT CITY COUNCIL COULD NOT, OR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION COULD NOT WORK TOGETHER TO FUND A PROJECT THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY I NEGATIVELY IMPACT AND THEN PUSH THROUGH A MODIFICATION TO A VARIANCE.
THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER BODY THAT WOULD HAVE TO ALSO PROVIDE THAT CHECK AND BALANCE.
AS AN EXAMPLE, ANOTHER CONSIDERATION WITH THE UDC IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION ZONE.
SO THIS ZONE, UM, IS SPECIFICALLY FOR RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS AND PDS WITH RESIDENTIAL USES THIS, UM, IN SIMPLIFIED TERMS SAYS THAT THE TALLER THE BUILDING, THE GREATER THE SETBACK TO LIMIT THE IMPACT ON A RESIDENTIAL HOME.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE HOME ON THE LEFT AND THE, UM, OTHER, I THINK THESE LOOK LIKE MIXED USE BUILDINGS.
UM, SO THE IDEA IS YOU'D WANT IT TO BE FARTHER AWAY.
SO THAT GOES, LENDS ITSELF TO WHY WE WOULD WANT POTENTIAL, UH, COMPATIBLE ZONING DISTRICT WITH A PARK NEXT TO AN AREA LIKE ADDISON CIRCLE, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO TO TOUCH ON THAT, UM, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE TO ZONE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK AS AN R ONE, R TWO OR R THREE DISTRICT, UM, IT WOULD MAKE THESE TWO PARCELS, ACTUALLY IT'S THREE, EXCUSE ME.
THIS BUILDING, THIS BUILDING, THIS BUILDING, IT WOULD MAKE THEM NON-CONFORMING THAT WOULD LIMIT POSSIBLE FUTURE REINVESTMENT BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY THE BUILDING IS TOO TALL.
SO IN ORDER TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HYPOTHETICALLY REMOVE TWO STORIES OF A BUILDING, WHICH IS, UH, NOT USUALLY FEASIBLE OR FINANCIALLY VIABLE SOLUTION.
AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANNA TOUCH ON, UM, THE USE OF PARKS DISTRICT IN OUR COMPARATOR CITIES.
UH, WE HAVE 13 COMPARATOR CITIES AND, UM, NONE OF THEM CURRENTLY HAVE A PARK SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, THEY ALL IN SOME FORM ALLOW PARKS AND MULTIPLE DISTRICTS TO FIT THE MULTIPLE TYPES OF PROGRAMMING OR USE OF THOSE PARKS.
BROADLY, THOSE ARE TWO THAT'S SPLIT INTO 13 COMPARATOR CITIES ARE SPLIT INTO TWO SLIDES THERE.
AND THEN LASTLY, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT PARKLAND PROTECTION AND HOW OUR PARKS ARE PROTECTED BOTH UNDER STATE, UH, LAW AS WELL AS OUR TOWN CHARTER.
SO BOTH OF THEM, UM, BROADLY SAY, UM, AND I'M COMMUNICATING THIS IN SIMPLIFIED TERMS, THAT A REFERENDUM WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SELL OR DISPOSE OF PARKLAND.
SO IT SAYS IT HAS TO BE USED FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE ZONING IS.
SO IN ORDER FOR CITY COUNCIL AS AN EXAMPLE TO SELL, UH, ADDISON CIRCLE PARK ONCE AGAIN AS AN EXAMPLE, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO NOTICE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A VOTE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE VOTERS WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE IT BEFORE THAT COULD BE EXECUTED.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT ALSO IS A VIOLATION OF TOWN CHARTER.
SO THEY WOULD LIKELY NEED TO AMEND THE CHARTER IN ORDER TO DO THAT AND POTENTIALLY, AND THEN IT WOULD ALSO POTENTIALLY, UM, BE AN ISSUE OF OUR LONG RANGE PLANS.
THEY MAY NEED TO BE TO BE AMENDED AS WELL.
JUST BROADLY, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, OTHER PROTECTIONS OUTSIDE OF ZONING, WHICH IS TRULY NOT A PRESERVATION TOOL.
IT'S MORE OF A DEVELOPMENT TOOL TO DICTATE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
NOW GETTING ONTO THE MATRIX AND CONVERSION OF THE CURRENT CODE TO THE NEW CODE.
SO AT THE TOP WE HAVE THE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICTS.
ON THE LEFT WE HAVE THE NEW DISTRICTS VIA THE, UH, UDC.
WE HAVE, UH, FOUR DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THAT WILL REMAIN AS AS THEY ARE TO AND IN THE UDC.
WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THOSE.
WE ALSO HAVE THE, UH, ONE NEW DISTRICT, UM, THAT WAS NOT CREATED FROM ANY OF OUR OTHER DISTRICTS, WHICH IS M THREE.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PROPERTY ZONED PROPOSED TO BE ZONED M THREE ON THE NEW MAP.
ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING MAP.
UM, SO ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES, EXCEPT FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL FOLLOW THAT CONVERSION.
UM, AND ONCE AGAIN, THE REASON THIS CONVERSION WAS USED IS BECAUSE EVERY, EVERYWHERE YOU SEE THE MATRIX OR THE THE BLACK
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DOT, UM, AS AN EXAMPLE, UM, THE, UM, SORRY, WHERE AM I? LIKE THE COMMERCIAL TWO INDUSTRIAL ONE AND INDUSTRIAL TWO DISTRICTS WERE KIND OF COMBINED TO CREATE THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.SO THAT WAS STRATEGICALLY DONE TO LIMIT NON-CONFORMITY WITH THE CREATION OF THE NEW DISTRICTS.
SO, UM, ONCE AGAIN, THE EXISTING MAP WITH THE EXISTING DISTRICTS AND THE PROPOSED MAP WITH THE PROPOSED DISTRICTS.
UM, THESE ARE THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS, WHICH WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE, UM, THAT ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE MATRIX.
EVERYTHING YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN A GREEN BOX OR BUBBLE IS PUBLIC PROPERTY.
EVERYTHING YOU SEE IDENTIFIED IN A RED UM, BUBBLE OR BOX IS PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE.
UM, THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES ARE ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SO THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING IS AN OFFICE BUILDING OFF QUORUM AND LANDMARK PLACE.
UM, WITH IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED INDUSTRIAL ONE.
UM, IT'S BEEN DEVELOPED AS AN, UM, OFFICE BUILDING.
UH, THE CONVERSION WOULD BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND WE ARE PROPOSING COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
THIS IS ALSO THE CASE WITH THE NEXT PROPERTY, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, ACTUALLY TWO PROPERTIES, EXCUSE ME.
ONCE AGAIN, THE CONVERSION WOULD BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
WE ARE PROPOSING COMMERCIAL GENERAL AS, UH, MANY OF THE INDUSTRIAL USES THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED ARE INAPPROPRIATE, SUCH AS MANUFACTURING.
THIS IS ALSO THE CASE, THIS IS ACTUALLY TO THE SOUTH ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THESE ARE ALL KIND OF SURROUNDING, UM, THE ROUNDABOUT AT QUORUM AND LANDMARK.
UM, THIS ONE, SAME SITUATION, IT'S AN OFFICE BUILDING THAT IS WOULD BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
AND WE'RE PROPOSING COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
THE NEXT PROPERTY IS THE POST OFFICE ON AIRPORT PARKWAY.
UH, THIS CONVERSION WOULD BE TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND WE ARE PROPOSING COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
THEN SIMILAR SCENARIO, THE HOME TWO SUITES OFF OF BELTLINE.
THE CONVERSION TO THAT WOULD BE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
WE ARE PROPOSING COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
I WILL NOTE THAT THE HOME TWO SUITE WAS, WAS APPROVED VIA A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND THERE ARE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PLANS TIED TO THAT.
SO THIS WILL NOT CREATE ANY NON-CONFORMITY 'CAUSE THE SUP WILL STILL BE IN EFFECT EVEN WITH THE BASE CONVERSION.
UM, THE LAST PRIVATE PROPERTY IS THE DART TRANSIT STATION AND, AND RAIL CORRIDOR.
UM, WE WERE PROPOSING A COMBINATION OF M1 AND M FOUR.
UM, AND THAT IS JUST BASED UPON THE CONTEXT OF THE M FOUR IS PROPOSED AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.
AND THEN THIS BEGINS THE PUBLIC PROPERTY.
SO THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES ARE ALL, UM, PUBLIC PROPERTY.
UM, MOST OF THEM WERE PROPOSED TO BE REZONED TO R TWO, SPECIFICALLY TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT AREAS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THIS IS NORTH ADDISON'S ADDISON PARK AND WE WERE PROPOSING R TWO, UM, DUE TO ITS, UH, ADJACENT C FOR THE TOWN HOMES.
CAN YOU, JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, CAN YOU QUICKLY JUST SUPER QUICKLY TELL 'EM EVERYBODY WHAT R ONE, R TWO AND R THREE IS, SINCE WE'RE GONNA BE GOING? YEAH, SURE.
WE HAVE TO JUST QUICK THANK YOU.
SO R ONE, SO WE HAVE TWO, THREE NEW DISTRICTS CREATED FOR RESIDENTIAL.
R ONE, R TWO, R THREE R ONE IS, UM, THINK OF THAT AS LIKE A STATE LOT OR LARGE LOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
SO OUR, UM, HOMES THAT ARE LOCATED IN EAST ADDISON PRIMARILY ALONG, UM, WYNWOOD CELESTIAL, UM, LIKE FOREST BELLBROOK AREA, THOSE ARE GENERALLY WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH R ONE.
I WILL SAY THERE'S, I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME R TWO MIXED IN THERE TOO.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT THE MAP.
UM, AND THEN R TWO IS THINK A LITTLE BIT LESS INTENSE.
SO THINK R TWO WOULD BE, I'M GONNA FLIP AHEAD.
SO THIS AREA, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, OFF BELTWAY, UM, LIKE THE LAX AREA THAT WAS MORE COMPATIBLE WITH R TWO, IT'S KIND OF SMALLER LOT SINGLE FAMILY AND THEN R THREE GETS EVEN LESS, UM, OR I GUESS MORE INTENSE, SO MEANING MORE DENSE.
SO THINGS THAT WOULD BE, UM, MORE APPROPRIATE.
AND R THREE MAY BE LIKE THE ASBURY CIRCLE AREA.
UM, AND THERE'S MORE HOUSING TYPES TOO.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, TOWN HOMES ARE NOT PERMITTED IN R ONE, BUT TOWN HOMES ARE PERMITTED IN R TWO AND R THREE.
SO, AND IF I, AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, ANYTHING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS R THREE ALREADY HAS, UM, TOWN HOMES OR, OR SOMETHING MORE DENSE ON IT LIKE APARTMENTS.
CORRECT? THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO NEW LAND THAT'S R THREE THAT'S SUDDENLY CORRECT.
SO WE WERE, WE WERE VERY, VERY WELL THAT GOES BACK TO THE MATRIX CONVERSION AND HOW WE CREATED THESE DISTRICTS.
IT WAS VERY MUCH A FORETHOUGHT OF WE'RE GONNA CREATE, WE'RE,
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WE'RE GONNA MAKE A MORE USER-FRIENDLY CODE BASED UPON WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND MAKE IT MORE TRANSPARENT AND USE EASIER TO USE BOTH, EASIER TO ADMINISTER FROM STAFF AND COUNCIL AND P AND Z AND ALSO EASIER FOR DEVELOPERS AND HOMEOWNERS TO USE.SO, UM, THAT WAS REALLY THE PURPOSE OF IT.
UM, NOT TO KIND OF BLOW UP OUR EXISTING DISTRICTS AND START FROM SCRATCH.
SO IT WAS VERY, YEAH, A LOT OF THESE CONVERSIONS WERE VERY STRATEGICALLY USED TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T ANY NON-CONFORMITY OR VERY LIMITED NON-CONFORMITY.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO I'M GONNA START BACK UP WITH THE ATHLETIC CLUB.
UM, THESE ATHLETIC CLUB WAS SUPPOSED TO BE R TWO 'CAUSE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT LOOK SIMILAR, BUT THEY'RE IN PINK AND THAT THAT'S BECAUSE THOSE ARE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO MODIFY ANY PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE OTHER, THIS IS ALSO THE ATHLETIC CLUB IS RIGHT HERE.
SO THIS IS KIND OF AN EXTENSION OF THAT AREA, INCLUDING REDDING TRAIL.
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THAT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE R TWO DISTRICT AS WELL.
UM, ALSO NOTE, 'CAUSE I DID NOT THAT THESE ARE, THIS IS ALL AREA THAT WAS DESIGNATED ON OUR MAP AS PARKS, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE A DISTRICT AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER.
SO STAFF FOCUSED ON COMPATIBILITY WITH ESTABLISHING WHAT THE ZONING FOR THESE PARKS WOULD BE.
UM, AND THIS IS RAW HIDE PARK AND TRAIL.
WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, THE AN R TWO CONVERSION TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ADJACENT, UM, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
WE ARE PROPOSING R TWO AS WELL.
UM, BROADLY WE ARE PROPOSING, THERE ARE SEVERAL PARKS IN THIS DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE, UM, COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE NEW TOWN HALL OR THE FORMER CONFERENCE CENTER.
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA TO BE, UM, THE, WHAT WAS THE URBAN CENTER, WHICH IS NOW THE M FOUR ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR COMPATIBILITY PURPOSES AND BOTH FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE FOR THE USES PERMITTED IN THE PARK SUCH AS THE CAFE, MAYBE A FUTURES FARMER'S MARKET AS AN EXAMPLE.
AS WELL AS THE, UH, REDUCTION OF NONCONFORMITY AS I MENTIONED EARLIER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION ZONE.
AND THEN, UH, THIS IS TOWN HALL, THE BUILDING WE'RE CURRENTLY IN TODAY, WE ARE PROPOSING R TWO TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE OAKS NORTH NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN, UM, THIS COVERS SEVERAL PARKS INCLUDING SIAL, UM, THE PUMP STATION, UH, WHITE ROCK CREEK PARK.
UH, WE ARE PROPOSING THOSE TO BE R ONE TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN THE ALMOST WHITE COLOR LIGHT YELLOW IS R ONE.
ONCE AGAIN, THE PINK IS, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS NOT PROPOSED TO BE, TO BE CHANGED.
UM, THESE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER, UM, FACILITIES ALONG ARAPAHO, INCLUDING THE WATER TOWER AND THE PUMP STATION.
WE ARE PROPOSING R TWO AT THESE FACILITIES.
AND UM, THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THE KIND OF UNIQUE PARCELS THAT ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE MATRIX CONVERSION.
UM, STAFF DID PROVIDE NOTICE TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE HEARING TONIGHT.
THAT WAS RENO, AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION AND WAS ALSO WITHIN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS.
UM, STAFF DID RECEIVE THREE, UH, QUESTIONS FROM THREE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.
UM, HOWEVER, THERE WAS NO, THEY DIDN'T SUBMIT STATEMENTS TO BE SHARED WITH THE COMMISSION OR COUNSEL AND THEY DID NOT SUBMIT ANY FORMAL, FORMAL RESPONSE AND FAVOR OPPOSITION.
SO, UM, BUT THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS THE APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AS PRESENTED AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M GONNA MAKE A COUPLE QUICK SYNOPSIS OF A FEW THINGS.
THIS PROCESS STARTED 2018, CORRECT? YES.
PARKS ARE PROTECTED IS A VERY SIMPLE WAY OF SUMMARIZING THAT PAGE.
IT, IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY CHALLENGING TO SELL PARKLAND.
NOW SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY GUESTS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE LAST MONTH AND THEY WEREN'T PRIVY UNLESS THEY LISTENED TO IT, COULD YOU GIVE A TWO SECOND OVERVIEW OF WHAT IT WOULD COST AND WHAT IT WOULD, YOU MAY KNOW, DOUBT NOT DOLLAR AMOUNTS, BUT TAKE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO GO CREATE A PARKS DISTRICT THAT WE CLEARLY HAD CHOSEN NOT TO PURSUE? SURE.
UM, YEAH, SO, UM, IN ORDER TO CREATE, SO, UM, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING.
SO, UM, THIS PROJECT KICKED OFF IN 2018.
UM, I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU THE EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE SPENT ON THIS PROCESS BECAUSE WE STARTED, UM, THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY COVID KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, WHICH SLOWED THINGS DOWN.
THEN THE PROJECT GOT EXTENDED ABOUT TWO YEARS LONGER THAN ANTICIPATED, EVEN IN ADDITION TO ADDING TIME FOR THE COVID DELAY.
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AND WE HAD TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL AND GET MORE MONEY.UM, SO IT WAS, I I I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH, 'CAUSE THERE WAS SO MANY DIFFERENT, UM, ADDITIONS TO THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WAS SPENT ON THE CONSULTANT.
BUT, UM, TO, TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION, WE WOULD HAVE TO ESSENTIALLY REOPEN THE CODE BECAUSE WHEN THE CODE HAS BEEN ADOPTED AND IT ESTABLISHED THESE ZONING DISTRICTS, SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THESE ARE OUR ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE TO PULL FROM TO IDENTIFY PROPERTY.
UM, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO REOPEN THIS AND THEN ADD A PARKS DISTRICT AND REDRAFT THE CODE TO ADDRESS THAT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF CODES THAT TIE BACK.
FOR EXAMPLE, LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS, LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS.
WE ACTUALLY HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT TODAY.
WHAT LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS APPLY TO PARKS AND WHERE AND SO FORTH.
THAT'S ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, THING TO CONSIDER.
THE LIGHTING WE MIGHT HAVE AT ONE PARK IS NOT APPROPRIATE AND ANOTHER AND SO FORTH.
SO, UM, IT WOULD TAKE COMBING THROUGH THE ENTIRE CODE, WE WOULD HAVE TO REENGAGE THE CONSULTANT, WHICH WE WOULD NEED MORE FEES 'CAUSE WE'VE MAXED OUT THAT BUDGET AT LEAST TWICE, IF NOT MORE.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO REENGAGE THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WE WOULD COUNSEL WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT 'CAUSE THEIR TERM HAS EXPIRED.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD NEED TO REAPPOINT THEM OR NOT.
OR WE COULD JUST RECALL THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE ALREADY ON THERE.
UM, AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO LIKELY GO THROUGH ANOTHER PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, GO BACK TO P AND Z, GO BACK TO COUNCIL.
UM, JUST EVEN THE MOST EFFICIENT TIME, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT EIGHT TO 10 MONTHS AND THAT SMOOTH SAILING THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS.
UM, AND AS FAR AS A DOLLAR AMOUNT, PROBABLY AT LEAST 50 TO $60,000.
THAT TO ME SOUNDS PROBABLY CHEAP BASED ON HAVING CONSULTANTS INVOLVED.
BUT ALL I'M GETTING AT IS I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE THE IMPRESSION THIS IS JUST LIKE, CHANGE OUR MINDS AND CREATE A PARK ZONE TOMORROW AND IT'S DONE.
I MEAN, THERE'S A, IT'S A VERY INTENSE PROCESS TO GET TO THE POINT OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
SO, UH, DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO.
UH, SIMPLY, SIMPLY, I'M SHORT
UH, SIMPLY, WOULD YOU, UH, LET'S SAY THE TOWN DECIDED TOMORROW THEY WANTED TO SELL CELESTIAL PARK MM-HMM
WHAT'S THE PROCESS? YEAH, SO, UM, THIS IS PRIMARILY DICTATED BY STATE LAW AS WELL AS THE CHARTER.
SO I'D HAVE, THIS WOULD BE A LONG CONSULTANT PROCESS, CONSULTING PROCESS WITH OUR ATTORNEYS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD NEED TO MODIFY OUR LONG RANGE PLANS FIRST, OR WE COULD DO THAT AFTER.
THAT'S THE KIND OF A BROAD QUESTION.
BUT AT MINIMUM, UH, WE DO KNOW THAT WE WOULD, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A NOTICE THAT THERE IS A HEAR A FUTURE HEARING TO SELL THE PARK TO THE ENTIRE TOWN.
AND SO, AND THEN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE COUNSEL AND ANYONE COULD COME AND SPEAK ON THAT.
AND THEN, UM, IT WOULD THEN HAVE TO BE, UH, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE AN ELECTION.
SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT ON A BALLOT AND THEN AND FOR THE ENTIRE TOWN? FOR THE ENTIRE TOWN, YES.
AND THEN, UH, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE VOTED ON BY THE ENTIRE TOWN AND IT WOULD ULTIMATELY HAVE TO PASS.
UM, SO APPROVE, UH, ASSUMING THAT IT DID GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND IT DID PASS VIA THE, A REFERENDUM AND VOTER APPROVAL, THEN IT COULD BE SOLD.
AND I ALSO NOTE THAT THIS DOESN'T JUST THE STATE LAW AS WELL AS OUR CHARTER DOES NOT JUST SAY SALE.
SO THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE USE AS A PUBLIC PARK.
SO WE COULDN'T GET AROUND THIS BY SAYING WE'RE GOING TO LEASE IT AND WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND LEASE IT AND IT'S STILL GONNA BE TOWN PROPERTY.
THIS PROCESS WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED.
UM, AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT, ACTUALLY A DIFFERENT TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, WHICH IS, UH, 1508, THAT ALSO ADDRESSES, YOU CAN'T, THERE'S NOT A LOOPHOLE THAT EVEN IF YOU DON'T WANNA SELL IT, YOU, YOU STILL HAS TO BE FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE.
NOW, LET'S SAY IT'S SOLD THE, THE, UH, TOWN DECIDES THAT IT'S OKAY, THEY BETTER SAY THAT IT'S OKAY WITH WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT IS THAT IT WOULD BE WHAT AN RR ONE.
AND SO IF IT WERE TO BE ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN R ONE, THEY WOULD'VE TO GO THROUGH BACK TO REZONING.
CORRECT? WELL, CLARIFICATION, NO, NOT EVERYTHING IS AN R ONE FOR A PARK.
WELL, WELL I THINK TO SIMPLIFY IT DEPENDS.
SO IF IT WAS, I THINK IN YOUR QUESTION, YOU'RE SAYING IF IT WAS A PARK, IT WAS ZONED AS PARKS, IT WOULD THEN HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH A ZONING PROCESS, RIGHT? NO, NO, NO.
IF, IF IT WAS, IF THE, UM, IF WE AGREED TO THE ZONING MAP AS PRESENTED MM-HMM
UH, THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL WOULD BECOME AN R ONE.
AND SO THEREFORE, IF IT IS SOLD, IF IT GOT, IF IT MM-HMM
WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS, THE
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TOWN APPROVED IT AND IT WAS SOLD, IT'S STILL CONSTRAINED AS AN R ONE CORRECT.TO DO ANYTHING ELSE, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK.
SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION.
YEAH, SO, SO IF IT WAS SOLD, IT WOULD HAVE TO ESSENTIALLY BE DEVELOPED AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, A TOWN HOME WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
SO IN ORDER FOR THEM TO DO THAT, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARINGS IN ORDER TO BE PASSED AND APPROVED FOR THEM TO DO THAT.
BUT ONLY AFTER THE INITIAL, UH, PROCESS OF GETTING THE TOWN TO APPROVE THE FACT THAT CORRECT, IT WAS APPROVED AND WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING TO, TO MODIFY THE MASTER PLAN.
UM, SO I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, I, I SAY THIS SO IT'S ON THE RECORD, WHICH IS, UH, I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.
THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLEX INTERACTIONS THAT ARE DIFFICULT AND SOMETIMES HARD TO SATISFY ALL, AND IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? NO, I'VE GOT, WAS THAT, WAS THAT, SORRY.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THIS, UH, I HAVE CARDS FOR THOSE.
IF ANYONE ELSE HASN'T FILLED OUT A CARD, PLEASE SEE COREY FOR FILLING OUT A CARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT YOU, UH, SHOULD KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS AND REFRAIN FROM ASKING DIRECT QUESTIONS TO THE COMMISSIONERS.
HOWEVER, THE COMMISSIONERS MAY AT THEIR DISCRETION ASK YOU QUESTIONS.
ANY ANSWERS WILL NOT ACCOUNT AGAINST YOUR THREE MINUTES.
QUICK CLARIFICATION FOR THOSE GUYS.
HOW'S THE THREE MINUTE CLOCK WORKING IN THIS BUILDING? BECAUSE THANK YOU.
IT WAS BY THE ON AIR AT THE OTHER PLACE.
SO AT THIS TIME, I'M GONNA GO WITH THOSE THAT HAVE FILLED OUT THEIR SHEETS.
UH, ROGER CAN TURNER KATTEN KA KETNER.
AGAIN, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE SPEAKING.
1 4 8 5 3 WYNWOOD ROAD FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS.
I READ THE PLAN, I PRINTED IT AND READ THE PLAN.
ALL 200 PLUS PAGES WITH A VIEW TOWARD TRYING TO DETERMINE HOW IT MIGHT IMPACT MY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE WERE SEVERAL SECTIONS IN THE RESIDENTIAL LIVING SECTION THAT CONCERNED ME, AND I WANNA GO OVER THOSE WITH YOU.
I HAVE THREE MINUTES NOW, 2 38.
SO I'LL JUST, I'LL MENTION THREE AND FORGIVE ME FOR READING, BUT I WANNA, I WANNA BE VERY SPECIFIC AND POINTING OUT TO YOU WHAT MY CONCERNS ARE.
CONCERN NUMBER ONE, AND THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE ONE SPECIFIC REFERENCE TO WYNWOOD I FOUND IN THE, IN THE DOCUMENT, SOME PROPERTIES LIKE THOSE ADJACENTS TO LAKE FOREST, BELLBROOK, AND WYNWOOD AREAS ARE TYPICALLY SITUATED ON LARGER LOTS, PRESENTING A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR MULTI-GENERATIONAL LIVING.
THESE PROPERTIES ARE MORE LIKELY TO ACCOMMODATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF ACCESSORY ACCESSORY D DWELLING UNITS OR MODIFICATIONS TO THE MAIN HOME TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL LIVING SPACES.
THE IDEA HERE IS MOTHER-IN-LAW ARE PARENT ELDERLY PARENTS, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
THE CONCERN IS, ONCE YOU START THAT PATH, WHERE DO YOU END IT? HOW DO YOU ENFORCE IT? HAVING INVESTED A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR $200,000, $300,000 IN, IN, IN A, A COTTAGE ON A LARGE PROPERTY? AND THEN WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE PROPERTY IS SOLD THAT'S GONNA BE RENTED OUT? I CAN ALMOST ASSURE YOU AND WHAT MY QUESTION IS WHETHER THE TOWN OF EDISON WILL REALLY ENFORCE THE, THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD RESTRICTIONS ON THAT PROPERTY.
THIS IS A BIGGER ONE, A SMALL PLEX.
THE PREVIOUS REFERENCES, WHAT WAS ON PAGE ONE 10? THE NEXT ONE'S ON ONE PAGE 1 22.
A SMALL PLEX OR A SMALL MULTIPLEX IS A SINGLE STRUCTURE WITH TEN TWO TO TWO TO 10 UNITS.
THE SMALLEST TYPES INCLUDE DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, AND QUADPLEXES.
PHOSPHO DESIGNED SMALL PLEXES, BLEND WELL INTO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
I DON'T THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A REAL ESTATE AGENT TO, TO KNOW THAT A DUPLEX NEXT TO MY HOUSE WILL, WILL REDUCE THE VALUE OF MY OSAGE CONSIDERABLY TRIPLEX, EVEN MORE SO QUADPLEX, EVEN MORE SO.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
LET'S NOT CONVERT THEM INTO QUAD QUADPLEXES PLEASE.
ISSUES TO ADDRESS OPPOSITION TO INFILL FROM EXISTING RESIDENTS LIKE ME AS IT NEEDS ADDITIONAL HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH IT WIDTH AND ADDITION TO EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
RESIDENTS HAVE SOMETIMES OPPOSED PAST PROJECTS AS SOUGHT TO DO THIS.
CITING CONCERNS ABOUT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES EFFORTS SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE MADE TO LISTEN TO THESE CONCERNS.
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ABOUT HOW IT, ABOUT HOW INCREMENTAL EVOLUTION NEIGHBORHOODS IS CRITICAL TO MAKING THEM MORE COMPLETE, MORE WALKABLE.WHAT DOES COMPLETE MEAN? THE DOCUMENTED PAGE 1 62 DEFINES COMPLETE FOR NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE COMPLETE.
THEY MUST UNDERSCORE THE WORD MUST, THEY MUST CONTAIN ELEMENTS OF HOUSING, COMMERCE, OUTSOURCE SPACE, STREETS AND PROGRAMMING.
WE DON'T WANT COMMERCE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
ROBERT, DID I SAY ROGER? YEAH, I MEANT ROBERT.
ROBERT, PLEASE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, UH, BEFORE.
UH, ROBERT JACOBI, UH, 4 0 1 6 DRIVE LANE IN ADDISON, UH, 30 YEAR RESIDENCE.
UH, WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS REZONING, AND OBVIOUSLY MY ANTENNA WENT UP, I THINK IT WAS EXPLAINED TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, BUT I THINK A LOT OF EDUCATION HAS TO GO IN WITH THE CITIZENS BECAUSE WHEN YOU MESS WITH PARKS, YOU MESS WITH WHY PEOPLE MOVED HERE.
UM, I THINK A LOT OF US ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENCROACHMENT OF APARTMENTS AND THE DESIRE FROM SOME PEOPLE TO EXPAND THE POPULATION OF ADDISON INDEFINITELY.
AND, UH, YOU GOT AN EDUCATION PROBLEM ON YOUR HANDS THAT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO WORK ON.
SO IF YOU'RE GONNA RE UH, REZONE THESE AS MENTIONED, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO COMMENT BEYOND THAT POINT, BUT I THINK YOU'VE GOT A EDUCATION ISSUE YOU NEED TO WORK WITH THE CITIZENS ON BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A RUSH TO MODIFY THE PARKS AND GOD KNOWS WHAT THAT MEANS DOWN THE ROAD.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? HAVING SEEN NONE, I NOW CLOSE THE OPEN PORTION OF OUR MEETING.
ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? YEP, GO AHEAD.
I'M SORRY I MISSED LAST, LAST MONTH'S MEETING.
UM, I I APPRECIATE THE IDEA OF LIMITING NON-CONFORMITY, FORCED NON-CONFORMITY BY DOING WHAT? BY ZONING IT THE WAY WE ARE MM-HMM
UM, IT'S SORT OF LIKE WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS BEFORE, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE WHOLE IMPERVIOUS, IMPERVIOUS AREA IN LIKE R ONE, R TWO, OR NOT R ONE, BUT IT WAS R TWO R THREE HOUSES AND WE THOUGHT WE'RE GONNA FORCE A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOUSES IN NON-CONFORMITY TOWN.
WENT BACK AND, AND CHANGED THAT.
SO WE, WHAT WE DON'T WANNA DO IS I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE NOT FORCING SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES INTO NON-CONFORMITY, CREATING AN ISSUE WITH NON UPKEEP AND, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY RUINING THEIR PROPERTY VALUES.
UM, I NOTICED, I I I MISSED LAST MONTH'S MEETING, BUT I WATCHED EVERYTHING.
I KNOW THERE WAS A, A BIG ISSUE WITH, YOU KNOW, MOST EVERYTHING'S IS ZONED A VERY LOW DENSITY AND IN R ONE R, YOU KNOW, R ONE, R TWO, R THREE, THESE PARKS.
UM, I KNOW THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK MM-HMM
I KNOW THAT THAT, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THERE'S DEED RESTRICTIONS ON THAT PROPERTY THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE TOWN.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S EVEN WAY MORE HOOPS.
WE CAN'T USE IT FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN PUBLIC USE AND THAT RUNS WITH THE PROPERTY.
SO I JUST, THAT DOES, UM, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENT TRANSPARENCY, IT IS A, I BELIEVE IT'S THIS HALF OF THE PARK, RIGHT? IT'S SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE ENTIRETY, BUT IT'S ABOUT, IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN A THIRD ON, UM, KIND OF STARTING FROM QUORUM AND HEADING TOWARDS THE WEST.
BUT THERE IS, THERE IS DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT IT SPECIFICALLY STATES IT HAS TO BE USED FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE.
UM, IT HAS TO BE, I BELIEVE IT DOES SAY IT HAS TO BE AT PARK.
I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK OUTTA TURN THERE.
UM, AN ORDER AND THERE ARE GRANTEES TO THAT DEED RESTRICTION.
SO IN ORDER FOR THAT TO BE LIFTED, UM, CURRENTLY, OBVIOUSLY THAT COULD CHANGE IN THE FUTURE AS SUCCESSORS, UM, BECOME, UM, AVAILABLE.
BUT THERE ARE CURRENTLY 12, UH, GRANTEES RELATED TO THAT DEED RESTRICTION THAT SAY IT HAS TO BE A, A PUBLIC HAS TO BE USED FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE.
SO IN ORDER FOR THAT PORTION OF ADDISON CIRCLE PARK TO EVER GO AWAY AS AN EXAMPLE, WE WOULD NOT ONLY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS WHICH WE OUTLINED REGARDING STATE LAW AND THE REFERENDUM AND SO FORTH, WE'D ALSO HAVE TO GET THE DEED RESTRICTION LIFTED
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AND THOSE 12 GRANTEES TO SIGN OFF ON IT AS WELL.AND, AND THE REST OF THE PARK.
I MEAN, IF IT'S LIKE THE REST OF THAT PROPERTY OVER THERE ON THAT BACKSIDE CLOSEST TO ADDISON ROAD, IF WE SAID, OH, WE WANNA MAKE THAT AN R ONE THAT'S REALLY LIKE SPOT ZONING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY, IT'S NOT COMPLIANT WITH ANYTHING ADJACENT TO IT.
UM, I, I, I, MY ONLY COMMENT IS I THINK THAT THIS WHAT REZONING WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO ZONE REZONE THIS STUFF TO REALLY PROTECTS ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE REALLY IT'S HOMEOWNERS AND ALSO OBVIOUSLY SOME COMMERCIAL IN, IN SOME OF THESE AREAS.
BUT MY COMMENTS ARE, I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE ZONING AND PARKS ARE, YOU CAN CALL SOMETHING A PARK, BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT IT'S TECHNICALLY ZONED.
SO IT'S, IT'S AN APPLE AND AN ORANGE, BUT WE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT, WE DON'T HAVE A PARK ZONE.
SO WE NEED TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
YEAH, I, I LARGELY AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, JIMMY, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAD QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
UH, GREAT WORK ON THIS, THIS, THIS ANSWERS ANY QUESTIONS I HAVE.
UM, UH, A COUPLE THOUGHTS ON WHAT, UH, THE RESIDENTS MENTIONED TONIGHT.
SO I ASKED ABOUT, UM, ADUS LAST TIME BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE IF THEY COULD BE NOW THAT'S, IS THAT SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR WERE THOSE BY RIGHT IN CERTAIN, UH, THOSE ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THE, LIKE OUR ZONING DISTRICTS.
UM, BUT THERE ARE SPECIAL USE STANDARDS WHICH WE BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT.
AND IF THEY, EXCUSE ME, IF THEY ARE RENTED OUT, THEY ARE, UM, THEY'RE, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? SUBJECT TO THE TOWN'S RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM MM-HMM
UM, AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER SPECIAL USE STANDARDS RELATED TO ADUS.
SO THAT, I WAS GONNA ASK, LIKE I DIDN'T KNOW IF, IF IT WAS AN SUP, DOES THAT TRANSFER WITH OWNERSHIP? UM, DO DO SUVS TRANSFER TO NEW OWNERS? THEY DO.
UM, AND ZONING STAYS WITH THE LAND, NOT WITH THE OWNER.
THERE ARE, UM, THERE POTENTIALLY COULD BE WAYS TO TIE AN SUP 'CAUSE IT IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO IT'S SUPPOSED TO, IT'S LIKE OPERATIONS SPECIFIC.
UM, SO IF YOU HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC OPERATION, THEN YOU SELL IT AND IT NOW IS A DIFFERENT OPERATION.
THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR SUP DOESN'T, DOESN'T APPLY THEN.
'CAUSE YOU'VE CHANGED THE INHERENT APPROVAL OF WHAT YOUR SUP WAS.
AND THEN THEN PDS, I KNOW A LOT OF THE, THE HOUSES ALONG THE WHITE ROCK TRAIL ARE PDS.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY ALLOW FOR ADUS FOR THOSE TO BE ALLOWED RIGHT.
AND IN THAT, YES, TO PUT IT PLAINLY, BUT THAT, UM, THAT PD IS ACTUALLY KIND OF UNIQUE.
'CAUSE IT SAYS LIKE ANY ACCESSORY USES THAT ARE COMMONLY ASSOCIATED WITH A PRIMARY DWELLING UHHUH.
IT LIKE SPECIFICALLY LIST, LIST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, PRIVATE SWIMMING POOLS, AND THEN LIKE ACCESSORY USES OR ACCESSORY BUILDINGS COMMONLY ASSOCIATED WITH A PRIMARY DWELLING.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, MAYBE A POOL HOUSE, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.
THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS ON THAT.
AND THEN I KNOW WE ALREADY PASSED THE UDC SO THAT, UM, IF WE WANT TO GO BACK AND AMEND IT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER.
UM, ONE OF THE OTHER RESIDENTS MENTIONED KIND OF LIKE AN EDUCATION PROCESS.
A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS PRETTY UNINTUITIVE AT FIRST GLANCE, EVEN AT FIFTH.
I'VE SEEN THIS PRESENTATION FOUR TIMES AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY, I STILL HAD TO WORK THE GEARS IN MY HEAD.
NOW THE TOWN DID A HOUSING FACT.
UM, AND THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL FOR ME MM-HMM
WHEN I WAS FIRST GETTING, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO DO A-U-D-C-F-A-Q UM, YEAH.
UM, DOCUMENT JUST TO LIKE ONBOARD PEOPLE INTO THE MM-HMM
SO WE'RE CURRENTLY DEVELOPING ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
WE'RE, UM, FINALIZING SOME APPLICATION FORMS, RIGHT? THINGS LIKE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUSH OUT AND WE'RE ALREADY EDUCATING A LOT OF OUR DEVELOPERS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN AND ASKING US QUESTIONS ABOUT, CAN I DO X, CAN I DO Y WHAT IS THIS STANDARD RELATED TO THIS, YOU KNOW, X? UM, AND SO WE ARE AT, WE'RE TAKING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE THEM ON, HEY, WE HAVE A NEW UDC COMING UP HERE, HERE IS WHAT IS ALLOWED TODAY.
SO COME SEPTEMBER 1ST, HERE'S THE NEW STANDARD.
UM, SO YEAH, THERE'S, WE'RE DOING ALL OF THAT THING.
WE WILL HAVE ALL OF OF THOSE THINGS.
UM, THE CODE AS WELL AS THE KIND OF BEFORE AND AFTER OF THE MAP ARE ALL ON THE PROJECT WEBSITE, WHICH IS STILL LIVE AND ALL OF THE RESOURCES ARE STILL THERE.
THAT, THAT LIVE MAP IS REALLY, IS REALLY USEFUL
UM, AND SO ALL OF THOSE RESOURCES ARE STILL THERE.
AND EVENTUALLY THAT PROJECT PAGE WILL GO AWAY.
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IT'S ALL FINALIZED, IT WILL TRANSITION TO OUR TOWN WEBSITE AND WE WILL HAVE A LANDING PAGE THERE ON OUR DEVELOPMENT.SO THE FINAL THING I HAVE TO SAY, YEAH, I OVERALL AGREE WITH THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS AN ADDISON CIRCLE RESIDENT, MYSELF, HAVING THIS MIXED USE MAKES SENSE TO ME.
UH, BUT IN A UNIVERSE WHERE I'M OUT VOTED, UM, I, I'D WANT THEM, I'D WANT IT TO BE CONTEXT SENSITIVE TO THE NE I WOULDN'T WANT JUST ONE HOUSE ON, ON THAT CIRCLE.
UM, SO I'M COOL, I'M COOL WITH HOW THAT IS AS, AS, AS A RESIDENT AND COMMISSIONER.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
UM, LIKE COMMISSIONER WRIGHT SAID, THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
UH, EVERYONE HAS PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO THIS.
UM, I I, I THINK A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN EVERYONE.
UM, I THINK, AND WHAT I THINK IS, I THINK THAT THAT ADDISON PARKS SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN OWN ZONING CATEGORY OR DISTRICT, UH, LIKE P ONE, P TWO OR P THREE INSTEAD OF REZONING THEM AS RESIDENTIAL.
I THINK ZONING OUR PARKS IS R ONE, R TWO OR R THREE TREATS THEM LIKE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT SITES.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE.
I THINK PARKS ARE NOT EMPTY LOTS WAITING TO BE BUILT ON THEY'RE PERMANENT PUBLIC SPACES THAT MAKE ADDISON A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.
AND AS MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, BY LESLIE, SHE SAID THAT SHE LOOKED BACK AT SOME DOCUMENTS AND THAT INFORMATION HAD BEEN LOST OVER THE YEARS.
YOU SAID IN 1984, WE WERE LOOKING AT MAPS WITH HIGHLIGHTERS AND THESE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO 30 YEARS FROM NOW, OR 40 YEARS FROM NOW, ARE PEOPLE GONNA LOOK AT THIS MAP AND SAY, HEY, THAT PARK IS AN R ONE AND R TWO OR AN R THREE AND ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS GO THROUGH THESE THREE HOOPS AND WE CAN MAKE IT A DEVELOPMENT.
UH, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS DESERVE TO KNOW WHAT OUR PARKS WILL, WILL, THAT WILL REMAIN PARKS AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE POTENTIAL BUILDING SITES.
ESPECIALLY NOW AS WE'RE DOING THIS NEW ZONING.
I MEAN, NOW IS THE TIME TO DO THE HARD WORK.
A LOT OF HARD WORK HAS BEEN DONE, BUT LET'S TAKE THAT EXTRA STEP TO PRESERVE OUR PARKS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
I MEAN, I, I DO KNOW THAT OUR COMPARATOR CITIES, AS YOU SHOWED, UH, THEY MAY NOT NOT HAVE THESE, THESE ZONES, BUT OTHER TEXAS CITIES DO.
AND WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD DO THE SAME THING TO PROTECT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
I MEAN, A CLEAR PARK ZONING DISTRICT BUILDS PUBLIC TRUST BY SHOWING THAT THIS TOWN VALUES THE GREEN SPACE AND INTENDS TO PROTECT IT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
THERE'S ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO BE CONSIDERED AS WELL.
UH, PROTECTED PARKS RAISE NEARBY PROPERTY VALUES AS, AS MR. BOB, BOTH BOB SAID.
UH, AND THEY HELP ATTRACT NEW RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.
PARKS ARE NOT JUST RECREATIONAL SPACES, THEY'RE LONG-TERM COMMUNITY ASSETS JUST LIKE OUR TREES.
AND WE HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THEM AND WE HAVE TO PROTECT THEM.
AND IT'S ON OUR SHOULDERS TO DO THAT.
SO THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO ACT.
THIS IS THE TIME, THIS IS OUR TIME TO DO IT RIGHT NOW.
IS IT GONNA COST MORE MONEY? YES.
IS IT GONNA COST MORE TIME? YEP.
BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A DEEPER LOOK AT DOING IT MAYBE THIS, THIS WAY FROM THE BEGINNING.
ONCE THIS NEW ZONING MAP IS APPROVED, IT'S GONNA BE MUCH HARDER TO CHANGE IT TO PROTECT OUR PARKS IN THE FUTURE.
SO MY, MY QUESTION OR, OR MY COMMENTS TO YOU IS I SUGGEST THAT WE CREATE DEDICATED PARK ZONING CATEGORIES SUCH AS P ONE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, P TWO FOR COMMUNITY PARKS, P THREE FOR LARGER OR SPECIAL USE PARKS.
AND THIS SHOULD INCLUDE ALL OF THE PARKS THAT WE HAVE IN ADDISON.
AND WE SHOULD DO THIS BEFORE WE FINALIZE THIS MAP.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW, COMMISSIONER.
SO, UM, THE M FOUR DISTRICT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED FOR ADDISON, WOULD THAT ALLOW FOR THE BUILDING OF A FIVE STORY CITY HALL? UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FIVE STORIES OR FOUR STORIES, BUT YOU, UH, BUT A LARGE CITY STRUCTURE SAY, LET'S CHANGE THAT.
HOW ABOUT A POLICE STATION? UH, SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME? HOW ABOUT A OR A POLICE STATION OR FIRE STATION? UM, LET ME DOUBLE CHECK BECAUSE, SO PUBLIC PARKS, PUBLIC FACILITIES AND PUBLIC PARKS ARE NOT, THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT RIGHT.
BUT HE'S ASKING THE M FOUR YES.
HE'S TALKING ABOUT IN AN M FOUR ONCE WE CORRECT.
WOULD THAT BE A LIE? UM, SO PUBLIC, UH, SO A POLICE, A PUBLIC POLICE, FIRE OR RESCUE FACILITY IS PERMITTED BY WRIGHT IN THE M FOUR DISTRICT.
UM, AND THEN I, YOU ASKED ALSO ABOUT THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH.
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PUBLIC DON'T FACILITY.AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS, UH, DO LAND SWAPS, UH, QUALIFY AS A LAND SALE FOR PURPOSES OF THE ORDINANCES? A THE PROTECTIVE ORDINANCES AS OUTLINED? IF WE SWAPPED LAND, LET'S SAY IT WOULD BE A DEED TRANSFER, WHICH I THINK IN B BY LAW WOULD BE A SALE.
SO, SO THE, THE HOW, THE HOW THE STATE LAW AND STATE CHARTER, OR EXCUSE ME, NOT STATE CHARTER, HOW THE TOWN CHARTER IT'S WRITTEN IS ESSENTIALLY, IF IT IS A PUBLIC PARK, IT NEEDS TO REMAIN A PUBLIC PARK AS PUBLIC USE.
AND IN ORDER TO, TO MODIFY THAT, TO TAKE IT, I'M GONNA SAY OUT OF PUBLIC USE AS A PUBLIC PARK, THAT WOULD REQUIRE REFERENDUM.
SO I THINK THERE WOULD NEED TO BE FURTHER LEGAL ANALYSIS.
BUT MY INITIAL THOUGHT WOULD BE THAT'S ESSENTIALLY A DEED TRANSFER OR A SALE OF LAND WITHOUT A DIRECT EXCHANGE OF MONEY.
IT WOULD BE SWAP OF LAND THEN? YES.
UNLESS IT WAS EXACTLY THE SAME VALUE TO THE PENNY OR SOMETHING.
I WOULD SAY, BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, THE LAND GOES WITH THE, THE ZONING GOES WITH THE LAND, NOT THE OWNER.
SO IN YOUR SCENARIO, THE DEED WOULD BE JUST A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP, NOT A CHANGE OF USAGE.
I WOULD NOTE THE LAW SAYS, I JUST WANTED UNDERSTAND, TRANSFER, CONVEY IT'S NOT.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? HAVING SEEN NONE? UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION CHAIR.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO AMEND THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP TO DESIGNATE ALL EXISTING TOWN PARKS AS DE DEDICATED PARKS OR PUBLIC SPACE ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS, AS I MENTIONED P ONE, P TWO, P THREE, AND I MOVE THAT THIS AMENDMENT BE INCORPORATED BEFORE THE ZONING MAP IS ADOPTED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
CAN WE DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE BIT? OH YEAH, SORRY.
UM, DO WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT RIGHT? BECAUSE WE HAVE TO REOPEN THE ENTIRE UDC PROCESS AND US NOT APPROVING.
THAT WOULD MEAN WE HAVE TO GO BACK.
DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO JUST ADD THREE ZONES HERE TODAY? NO, I DON'T THINK WE DO.
BUT I THINK IS WHAT JIMMY'S MOTION WAS, IS TO ESSENTIALLY REOPEN THE UDC AND TO, TO GO BACK AND, AND WHICH WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION OF COUNCIL.
UM, RIGHT, SO, SO WE CAN HAVE THE PARK ZONES, THEY'RE NOT, NOT SUBJECT TO REZONING REQUESTS, WHICH COULD BE, HOW WOULD A, SO IF WE, IF WE DO PARK ZONES, NOW THIS IS A EXTREMELY HYPOTHETICAL YEAH.
HOW, HOW COULD THOSE BE TREATED FOR REZONING? COULD THE TOWN SAY, I WANT TO REZONE THIS? YEAH.
A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE TOWN COMES YEAH.
IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD AND SAYS, HEY, AS THE TOWN, WE WANNA REZONING.
SO, SO TECHNICALLY LIKE TO GET OUT, UH, KIND OF, I'M GONNA SAY IN SPACE WITH STATE LAW UHHUH, YOU DO NOT ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE THE PROPERTY OWNER TO REQUEST A REZONING.
THERE ARE ADDITIONAL STEPS IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
UM, AND THERE'S DIFFERENT NOTICING REQUIREMENTS AND SO FORTH.
BUT, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS ONCE AGAIN VERY HYPOTHETICAL.
IF ADDISON CIRCLE PARK WAS REZONED AS A PARKS DISTRICT MM-HMM
THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER COULD PROPOSE A REZONING.
THE TOWN WOULD NOT HAVE TO THE, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD PROCESS IT, PROCESS IT AS THE TOWN.
AND WE COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BASED UPON OUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
UM, SO IT MAY NOT BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR SOMEONE TO DO THAT.
UM, BUT THE, THE TOWN WOULD NOT, THE TOWN COULD ALSO BRING FORWARD AN A REZONING.
SO REZONING IS A DEVELOPMENT TOOL.
SO EVEN IF IT WAS RE EVEN IF IT WAS OWNED PARKS AS AN EXAMPLE, UM, IT DOES NOT PRESERVE PARKS 'CAUSE ZONING CAN JUST CHA BE CHANGED VIA TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
AND IT'S, AND IT'S TOWNLAND STILL SUBJECT REGARDLESS OF THE ZONING STILL SUBJECT TO THE SORRY FOR THAT.
IT'S, REGARDLESS, IT'S STILL SUBJECT TO THOSE LAWS FOR SELLING PUBLIC USE LAND.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S STATE LAW AS WELL AS TOWN CHARTER.
SO EVEN IF HYPOTHETICALLY STATE LAW CHANGED, OR IT'S IN OUR TOWN CHARTER OR, OR VICE VERSA, IF OUR TOWN CHARTER CHANGED, IT'S STILL IN STATE LAW.
SO, SO EVEN IF WE HAVE THE PARK ZONE, THEY COULD STILL SELL IT IF THEY GOT THE VOTES CORRECT.
YEAH, THEY SEE THAT'S, I'M, I'M GOOD.
I, I I DON'T THINK THIS ADDS ANYTHING OTHER THAN COST TO, TO THE TAXPAYERS AND TIME FOR THE TOWN.
SO ANYONE HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS ABOUT THE QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THAT? OKAY, SO THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS JIMMY'S RECOMMENDATION.
NAY, NAY MOTION DOES NOT CARRY OR DOES NOT PASS.
DO I HAVE A DIFFERENT MOTION ON TABLE? I'D LIKE TO DO A MOTION TO AMEND OR I, I CAN'T AMEND IT UNTIL YOU PROPOSE IT.
YOU, YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION.
ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION FOR I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
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IT'S OKAY.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REZONING OF, UM, THE MAP.
DO I HAVE, DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL MOTION TO AMEND, UH, WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS FIRST AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S ON THE TABLE, YOU I'LL AMEND THE MOTION ON THE TABLE.
I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MAP AND FURTHER SUBJECT TO THE RESTRICTED PERMITTED USE TO THAT OF PUBLIC PARK AND OPEN SPACE AND REGULATIONS AS OUTLINED IN THE AREAS DELINEATE DELINEATED IN THE ADDISON RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN.
I CAN READ THAT AGAIN IF YOU LIKE, PLEASE.
CAN YOU CLARIFY PLEASE? AND FURTHER SUBJECT? SO THE MAP WOULD BE FURTHER SUBJECT AND FURTHER SUBJECT TO RESTRICTED PERMITTED USE TO THAT OF PUBLIC PARK OR OPEN SPACE AND REGULATIONS AS OUTLINED IN THE AREAS DELINEATED IN THE ADDISON RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN.
I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE CHANGE THE ZONING FOR PURPOSES OF BONING.
I AM SUGGESTING THAT WE CHANGE THE PERMITTED USE BASED UPON THE MASTER PLAN IF TO EXPLAIN IT.
SO, UH, SO THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY AMEND THE UDCI HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
WE NEED TO KIND OF MOVE ON THESE BECAUSE IF THERE'S A, THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE TABLE, RIGHT? HE HAS NOW MADE A MOTION TO AMEND THAT MOTION.
WE NEED TO DETERMINE WHETHER THAT'S GONNA BE AMENDED OR NOT.
AND THEN I'LL SECOND THE AMENDED MOTION TO, UH, COMMISSIONER BRAUN'S MOTION.
THE HOUSE MOTION, UH, DOES NOT PASS.
DO I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? CAN WE GO BACK TO ISSUES CALLING FOR DIVISION OF THE HOUSE? I'D LIKE TO VOTE.
I'LL NOW OPEN THIS UP TO CITIZEN COMMENTS.
[6. Citizen Comments: At this time citizens will be allowed to speak on any matter other than personnel matters under litigation, for a length of time not to exceed three minutes. No P&Z action or discussion may take place on any matter until such matter has been placed on an agenda and posted in accordance with law.]
UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ANY MATTER OTHER THAN PERSONNEL MATTERS UNDER LITIGATION OR ITEMS ALREADY DISCUSSED AND VOTED ON PER TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR A LENGTH OF TIME TO NOT EXCEED THREE MINUTES, NO P AND Z ACTION OR DISCUSSION MAY TAKE PLACE ON ANY MATTER UNTIL SUCH MATTER HAS BEEN PLACED ON AN AGENDA AND POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE LAW.
ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK? GO AHEAD.
MY NAME IS, UH, RA AKA I LIVE ON, UH, 1 4 6 2 5.
THAT, THAT IS NOT A MICROPHONE FOR YOU.
IT'S ONLY GOING TO THE THING, SO YOU JUST NEED TO SPEAK UP FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU.
I LIVE ON, UH, 1 4 65 VINTAGE LANE.
UM, I AM NEW HERE TO THIS KIND OF MEETINGS.
I WAS, UH, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, I AM A CIVIL ENGINEER, SO I UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT OF THE CITY PLANNING STUFF.
UH, I JUST HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT I THINK MR. WRIGHTS, UH, POINT HE MADE IN THE VERY END THERE WHERE CHANGING THE WHOLE BUYING IS ONLY ADDING COST, BUT IT WOULD NOT PREVENT THE CITY FROM, YOU KNOW, SELLING IF THEY, BUT IT WOULD, I THINK IT WOULD ADD THE CLARITY THOUGH, MARKING THEM.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE COST BENEFIT IS THERE, BUT MARKING THEM OUT.
SIR, I, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTARY, BUT THAT'S NOT ALLOWED AT THIS PART OF THE, THE MEETING.
THIS IS ONLY TO DISCUSS THINGS THAT WEREN'T ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.
SO COMMENTS LIKE THAT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE EARLIER IN THE PROCESS.
BUT YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH AND SPEAK IN THE OPEN SECTION OF THAT.
AS LONG AS IT'S NOT AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
BUT YEAH, THE ONLY THING I THOUGHT WAS NOT ALLOWED IS A PERSONAL BUSINESS, WHICH IT IS NOT A PERSONAL BUSINESS.
I'M JUST LISTENING TO THE TWO COMMISSIONERS, ONE COMMISSIONER ME.
BUT WE WERE IN DISCUSSIONS OF WHAT WAS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.
SO THOSE HAVE TO BE TALKED ABOUT AT APPROPRIATE TIMES.
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T SAY THIS IS, YOU CAN'T DISCUSS WHAT JUST HAPPENED.
I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH IT ADDS COST, IT ADDS, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES THE
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CLARITY TO PUT THOSE THINGS SEPARATELY.AND I APPRECIATE MR. BARKER MAKING THAT MOTION.
I'M SORRY IT DIDN'T PASS, BUT THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK, HAVING SEEN NONE? I OFFICIALLY, UH, CLOSE TONIGHT'S PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION MEETING JULY SEVEN, 15TH, 2025.