Jul 01, 2025 Work Session

TONIGHT, UH, WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE CHANGE OF ORDER FOR THE MEETING JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THE STAFF HERE READY TO GO WITH THEIR PRESENTATION FOR THE BUDGET.

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

[1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present]

IT IS FIVE 30.

WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON JULY 1ST, 2025.

IT'S AN A COUNCIL WORK SESSION MEETING, AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT WITH ALL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT THIS EVENING.

AS ALWAYS, WE'D LIKE TO START A MEETING WITH PLEDGE FOR BOTH OF OUR FLAGS.

IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE US.

I PLED ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLED ALLEGIANCE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE.

ALRIGHT, NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY THIS EVENING.

UH,

[a. Present and discuss the Proposed Annual Budget for the Town of Addison for Fiscal Year 2026 (beginning October 1, 2025, and ending September 30, 2026), including, but not limited to, the General Fund, Utility Fund, Stormwater Fund, Airport Fund, Hotel Fund, Economic Development Fund, Information Technology Fund, Capital Replacement Fund, Infrastructure Investment Fund, and Long-Term Planning.]

UH, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ITEM THREE A TO THE END OF THE MEETING.

SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO ITEM FIVE, A WORK SESSION REPORTS FIVE A IS PRESENTED.

DISCUSS THE PROPOSED ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON FISCAL YEAR 2026, BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2025, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE GENERAL FUND, UTILITY FUND, STORM WATER FUND, AIRPORT FUND, HOTEL FUND, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FUND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY FUND, CAPITAL REPLACEMENT FUND INFRASTRUCTURE, INVESTMENT FUND, AND TERM PLANNING.

ARE YOU KICKING US OFF? YEAH, I'LL JUST SAY A COUPLE WORDS TO KICK US OFF AND YOU GET TO SAY THAT CAPTIONED A FEW MORE TIMES OVER THE NEXT FUN, FUN TIME TO SAY COUPLE OF MONTHS.

SO WE'VE HAD PRELIMINARY BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, BUT THIS IS REALLY OUR FIRST, UM, MAJOR BUDGET DISCUSSION AS WE KICK OFF THE PROCESS.

AND WE'VE DONE THINGS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY THIS YEAR.

EVERY YEAR WE LOOK AT OUR CIP THIS YEAR, THIS PRESENTATION LOOKS AT NOT ONLY OUR CIP BUT ALL OF OUR ONE TIME PROJECTS, ALL OUR PROJECTS THAT ARE CASH FUNDED, UM, THAT ARE NOT RECURRING COSTS.

SO I THINK THIS IS GONNA HELP US AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET DELIBERATIONS LEADING UP TO THE BUDGET WORKSHOP TO THINK ABOUT THESE PROJECTS.

AND YOU'LL HAVE SOME TIME TO DIGEST 'EM BEFORE THAT.

SO THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE LAYING IT OUT.

AND UH, STEVEN WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

AT THE END.

YOU'LL SEE A SCHEDULE OF THE REST OF THE MEETINGS THAT WILL BE COMING UP, LEADING UP TO THE BUDGET WORKSHOP AND AFTER.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL SEND IT TO STEVEN TO GET US GOING.

GREAT, THANK YOU MAYOR.

AND COUNSEL.

STEVE, LET CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

SO, UH, WE, WE ORIGINALLY STARTED THIS AND THIS WAS A VERY LONG PRESENTATION, SO WE HAVE CONDENSED IT A LITTLE BIT, UM, BUT IT IS STILL ABOUT SEVEN 70 SLIDES, SO I APOLOGIZE, APOLOGIZE FOR THE LINK.

BUT WE ARE GONNA COVER A LOT OF INFORMATION TONIGHT.

AND AS, UH, AS DAVID MENTIONED, UH, WE'VE INCORPORATED NOT JUST OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT'S IN THE CURRENT BUDGET.

SO A LOT OF THESE ARE GONNA BE EXISTING PROJECTS, PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY, UM, EITHER UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UNDER DESIGN, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

UH, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE GONNA PRESENT SOME, SOME NEW ONE TIME, UH, PROJECT REQUESTS.

AND, UH, WE'LL GO OVER SOME OF THOSE CASH FUNDING.

AS WE MENTIONED AT OUR, UH, PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING, WE HAD VARIOUS CASH FUNDING, UH, METHODS THAT WE USE, UH, OR PAY AS YOU GO METHODS OF FUNDING SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.

SO WE'LL GO OVER SOME OF THOSE, UH, AS WELL.

AND, UH, IT SHOULD BE A GOOD DISCUSSION.

SO AS WE GET STARTED, SO WE REALLY CLASSIFY OUR PROJECTS AND, AND WE HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS.

SO ONE WOULD BE VOTER AUTHORIZED.

UH, WE HAD VOTER AUTHORIZATION IN 2019 WITH THAT GEO BOND PROGRAM.

SO THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE APPROVED BY VOTERS.

UH, AFTER THEY'RE APPROVED, UH, WE SCHEDULE THEM, WE SELL THE BONDS AND, UH, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT WITH PROJECTS.

UH, WE MAY HAVE COMMITTED PROJECTS AND THESE MAY BE, UH, DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS, UH, ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

UH, GENERALLY THESE ARE FUNDED, UH, EITHER WITH SOME CASH FUNDING METHOD OR, UH, THE TOWN WOULD SELL, UH, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, UH, TO FUND THOSE PROJECTS.

UH, WE MAY HAVE FUTURE UNFUNDED PROJECTS.

SO THESE MAY, UH, BE PROJECTS THAT COUNCIL HASN'T GIVEN ANY, ANY DIRECTION ON.

WE MAY, UH, HAVE CALLED THE BOND ELECTION, UH, HAVEN'T HAD A BOND ELECTION YET.

UM, SO THOSE PROJECTS HAVE NOT BEEN AUTHORIZED BY VOTERS.

UM, SO, SO THOSE MAY BE FUTURE UNFUNDED.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE ONE TIME SELF-FUNDED.

AND THESE ARE A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE TALK ABOUT WITH OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND OR OUR STREET SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND.

AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE ONE TIME REQUESTS THAT OUR DECISION PACKAGES THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT, UM, THAT YOU EVALUATE EACH YEAR DURING THE, UH, BUDGET DISCUSSIONS.

SO, YOU KNOW, A BIG PART OF, OF WHAT WE DO IS, IS, UH, TO FUND THIS PROGRAM IS A COMBINATION OF, OF NOT ONLY CASH BUT DEBT.

UM, SO I THINK WE GOT THE QUESTION, UH, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO ON WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE OVERALL, WHAT, WHAT'S

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THE INTEREST RATE WE'RE PAYING ON THE DEBT? SO WE'RE PAYING ABOUT 2.8%, UH, IN INTEREST RIGHT NOW.

UH, BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, OUR INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO IS EARNING ABOUT 3.8% INTEREST.

SO, UM, SO WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT WITH SOME OF THE, THE CASH FUNDING, SOME OF THE LARGER ITEMS THAT SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T MAKE AS MUCH SENSE TO CASH FUND WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO EARN MORE MONEY BY KEEPING THE MONEY IN THE BANK AND PAYING IT OFF OVER TIME, AS OPPOSED TO YES, SIR.

UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT LIKE JUST THE DURATION, LIKE HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE US GETTING 3.8%? IS IT, IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S LIQUID THAT WE, THAT WE EXPECT THAT IF IT IS A COMBINATION? SO WE DO HAVE, UH, WE DO HAVE INVEST.

IT IS MORE FRONT LOADED WHERE MOST OF OUR, UH, FUNDS ARE, YOU KNOW, GOING TO BE IN SHORTER DURATION, UH, INSTRUMENT, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME THAT ARE EXTENDED OUT TO FIVE YEARS.

SO THE REASON I ASK IS THAT THE FED MOVES AND LOWERS RATES.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE IMPACT ON THAT.

SO YEAH, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, EVEN, EVEN OUR OVERNIGHT INVESTMENT POOLS, UM, A CHANGE IN THE FEDERAL FUNDS RATE OVER, YOU KNOW, WILL NOT CHANGE IT DIRECTLY, UH, QUICKLY.

LIKE, LIKE WE WOULD SEE A 25 CASES DROP OVERNIGHT, LIKE, LIKE YOU WOULD WITH THE FEDERAL FUNDS RATE MM-HMM .

UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO THAT MAY HAVE A DURATION OF, I THINK BETWEEN 60 AND 90 DAYS.

SO THEY, THEY HAVE HIGHER OKAY EARNING, UM, INVESTMENTS THAT WOULD BE ROLLING OFF IN POTENTIALLY REINVESTED AT A LOWER INTEREST RATE.

BUT, UM, FOR US, I THINK OUR OVERALL PORTFOLIO, UM, BASED MATURITY IS AROUND, UH, 15 TO 18 MONTHS RIGHT NOW.

SO WE DO HAVE THINGS THAT EXTEND OUT TO FIVE YEARS AND, UH, CAN'T BE CALLED IF IT'S SOME, SOME MUNICIPAL BONDS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO, UM, SO WE WOULD GET THAT.

UH, IN ADDITION, WE DO HAVE SOME INVESTMENTS THAT WERE PURCHASED BACK IN 2021 THAT STILL HAVEN'T MATURED, WHICH ARE AT REALLY LOW INTEREST RATES.

AND, UH, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE FED DOES, THEY'RE NOT GONNA CUT THE RATES DOWN TO TO THAT LEVEL.

SO, UH, THOSE WILL BE REINVESTED AT A HIGHER RATE.

WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE REINVESTED AT A LOWER RATE, SOME THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, GONNA MATURE AND BE REINVESTED AT A HIGHER RATE.

SO I STILL ANTICIPATE OUR OVERALL PORTFOLIO, UH, YIELD TO INCREASE SLIGHTLY, UH, OF OVER THE NEXT, UH, THREE TO SIX MONTHS, REGARDLESS OF REALLY WHAT THE FED DOES.

SALE OR, OR LOAN SALE FROM, FROM PROPOSITION A.

YOU ARE WELCOME.

UM, SO IN ADDITION, WE CONSIDER THE TIME VALUE OF MONEY.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, A DOLLAR TODAY IS WORTH MORE THAN A DOLLAR, FIVE OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW.

UM, SO WE CONSIDER THAT ALSO IN EVALUATING WHETHER CASH FUND OR DEBT FUND, UH, PROJECT.

UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOME PROJECTS MAY BE USED FOR MULTIPLE DECADES.

UM, SOME OF THEM HAVE 20 TO 40, UH, YEAR USEFUL LIVES.

SO, UH, SOME OF THOSE IT MAKES SENSE IF WE'RE FINANCING THAT WITH A 20 YEAR BOND, AND IT'S GONNA BE ENJOYED BY, UH, YOUR, UM, RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES FOR THE NEXT 20 TO 50 YEARS.

UM, SO, AND THEN, BUT JUST A REMINDER THAT WE DO CASH FUND, A LOT OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS IS ONE TIME PURCHASES, AS I MENTIONED WITH THE SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND.

WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND, WE HAVE THE, UH, STREET SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND AS WELL, WHICH ARE REALLY EXTENSIONS OF THAT GENERAL FUND AND ALLOW THE TOWN TO, UM, PAY AS WE GO ON SOME OF THESE ONE TIME REQUESTS THAT YOU RECEIVE.

SO, UM, I'M GONNA GO OVER, UH, THE, THE VOTER AUTHORIZATIONS FROM 2012, AND WE ONLY HAVE ONE THING LISTED FOR 2012 STILL, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN ISSUED YET.

AND THAT IS, UH, UH, THE PARKING GARAGE.

SO THERE WAS, UH, THREE, THREE $3 MILLION AUTHORIZATION, UH, BACK IN 2012.

AND THIS IS, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR A PARKING GARAGE IN THE ADDISON SEARCH AREA.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, MY NOTE OVER THERE IS THAT BASED ON THE CURRENT TOD, WE HAD A, WE HAD AN MOU MULTIPLE MOUS THAT HAD A PARKING GARAGE IN THERE.

SO AS THIS GOES FORWARD WITH, UH, THE NEW DEVELOPER, UH, WE MAY SEE THAT THAT NEED THERE, BUT WE DO HAVE THAT $3 MILLION THAT HAS NOT BEEN ISSUED FOR THAT PARKING GARAGE.

SO, UM, SO THAT IS STILL AVAILABLE FROM THE 2012, UH, VOTER AUTHORIZATION.

AND THEN GETTING INTO THE 2019 VOTER AUTHORIZATION.

SO WE HAD TWO PROJECTS FROM PROPOSITION A KELLER SPRINGS ROAD AND AIRPORT PARKWAY, KELLER SPRINGS ROAD IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

UM, ALL OF THE BONDS HAVE BEEN ISSUED.

THERE'S ALSO SOME FUNDING FROM DALLAS COUNTY, AND, UH, AS MANY OF YOU MAY REMEMBER, WE DID, UH, ACQUIRE A STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOAN.

SO WE RECEIVED $8 MILLION FROM THE STATE AT A LOWER INTEREST RATE, UH, IN LIEU OF ISSUING, UH, $8 MILLION FROM THAT PROPOSITION.

UH, AND THEN WE HAVE THE AIRPORT PARKWAY PROJECT.

THIS, UH, PROJECT HAS BEEN DESIGNED, UH, WITH CONSTRUCTION ANTICIPATED TO START IN 2027.

UH, ALL OF THOSE BONDS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THAT PROJECT.

UH, SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL BOND

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UH, PROPOSITION B, WE HAVE THE FORM DRIVE RECONSTRUCTION OR M FOR DRIVE RECONSTRUCTION.

UH, THERE WERE, UH, BONDS SOLD, UM, I THINK IN 2023 FOR THE DESIGN OF BOTH OF THESE.

UH, AND THEN WE ALSO GOT THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOAN FOR BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS.

SO WE RECEIVED $22.9 MILLION INSTEAD OF ISSUING THE BONDS REFORM DRIVE.

AND THEN $13.7 MILLION, UH, FOR THE MONTFORD DRIVE PROJECT.

AND THAT INCLUDES THE EXPANDED SCOPE, UM, AND ALSO INCLUDES, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COST OF INFLATION IN THAT.

UM, SO NO ADDITIONAL ISSUANCES FOR THESE PROJECTS.

UH, BOTH ARE UNDER DESIGN ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN FISCAL YEAR 2026.

AND WE HAVE, UH, PROPOSITION C UH, WE HAVE ATHLETIC CLUB IMPROVEMENTS, AND THIS WAS ATHLETIC CLUB WAS KIND OF BROKEN INTO THE TWO PROJECTS.

THESE WERE REALLY THE INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETE.

UH, WE HAVE THE LAY LOCKS POND PROJECT.

I KNOW THAT COUNCIL HAD, UH, THE LANDSCAPING, UH, COME FORWARD AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, FOR THAT TO FINALIZE THAT PROJECT.

UH, SO CONSTRUCTION IS, IS HOPEFULLY GONNA WRAP UP ON THAT ONE.

UH, PRETTY SOON ALL OF THE BONDS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THAT PROJECT.

THAT ONE WAS ALSO FUNDED BY SOME S STORM WATER BONDS.

IN ADDITION TO, WE APPLIED INTEREST FROM OUR BOND PROCEEDS, UH, TO THAT PROJECT AS WELL.

THEN WE HAVE WRITING TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT PROJECT, UH, WAS COMPLETED.

SO NO ADDITIONAL BOND ISSUANCES OR ANYTHING RELATED TO PROPOSITION C.

ALL OF THOSE BOND WERE ISSUED PROPOSITION D THIS WAS THE ATHLETIC CLUB, THIS WAS THE ROOF IN THE AVAC IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXTERIOR.

UH, SO THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETE.

AND THEN WE HAVE IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING BUILDINGS.

THIS IS REALLY ALL THE BUILDINGS IN TOWN.

YOU HAVE LOTS OF HVAC, LOTS OF ROOF REPLACEMENTS.

I THINK THE ROOF HERE IS BEING REPLACED, UH, UNDER, UNDER THAT ONE RIGHT NOW.

SO, UM, PHASE ONE OF THAT IS COMPLETE.

MOST OF PHASE TWO IS PROBABLY, I, I BELIEVE COMPLETE.

UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT TO SPEND THERE STILL.

SO, UM, WE'RE GETTING NEAR THE END OF, OF, UH, OF THAT ONE.

BUT WE HAVE SOLD ALL THE BONDS, UH, FOR ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS.

AND THEN WE HAD PROPOSITION E, WHICH WAS ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WAS COMPLETED, UH, I THINK BACK IN 2020.

AND, UH, THOSE BONDS HAD ALL BEEN ISSUED AS WELL.

SO, UH, A SUMMARY ON THE BOTTOM OF THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM, 70 MILLION, 620,000, UM, INCLUDING THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK.

WE'VE ESSENTIALLY SOLD ALL OF THE, THE BONDS OR LOANS FOR, UH, ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS.

SO THERE WILL BE NO ADDITIONAL BOND ISSUANCE AS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE PROJECTS GOING FORWARD.

UH, SO THOSE ARE ALREADY BEING INCLUDED IN OUR VET SERVICE, UH, TAX RATE CALCULATION AS WE GO FORWARD.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES, SIR.

GO BACK TO SLIDE SIX.

SO, UM, AS AN EXAMPLE OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVEN'T STARTED OR SPENT ALL THE MONEY, UH, YET ON THOSE PROJECTS, SO WE ISSUE THE BONDS FAIRLY EARLY, LIKE, UH, ONE OF 'EM IS, UH, WHAT'S AT QUORUM STARTING IN 2027 OR MONTH S IN 2027, WHICHEVER ONE YOU SAID.

UM, SO WE, WE BORROWED THE MONEY.

SO WE'RE PAYING PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON THE MONEY.

AND WE'RE EARNING MORE THAN WE'RE, WE'RE PAYING FOR RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO, UH, IN OUR TAX RATE, UH, IS THAT PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PART OF OUR TAX RATE? IT IS.

SO THE INTEREST THAT IS, UH, EARNED OFF OF AN OFFSETTING AMOUNT, DOES THAT GO BACK AGAINST THE TAX RATE? IT DOESN'T GO BACK AGAINST THE TAX RATE.

IT GETS APPLIED TO EITHER THESE PROJECTS OR SIMILAR PROJECTS FOR WHICH THE BONDS, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, THESE ARE, ARE STREET BONDS.

SO LET'S SAY THAT WE HAD, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THAT THE BIDS CAME IN AND THEY WERE OVER, UM, ON THIS PROJECT, UM, AND WE NEEDED AN ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLARS OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER MAY BE.

UH, WE WOULD APPLY THOSE INTEREST EARNINGS TO THAT PROJECT.

OR LET'S SAY THE BIDS CAME IN BELOW AND THERE WERE SAVINGS, UM, MAYBE ON THE NEXT PROJECT, MAYBE THE NEXT STREET PROJECT, WE'D BE ABLE TO FUND IT WITH THE RESIDUAL PROCEEDS AND INTEREST EARNINGS, UM, FROM THOSE.

SO, SO IN THE LONG RUN YES, IN THE LONG RUN, YES.

IT, IT, IT PRODUCES THE TAX RATE BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO ISSUE ADDITIONAL DEBT FOR THE CURRENT TAX RATE.

IT'S, IT'S REALLY PAYING FOR, UM, DEBT THAT'S NOT BEING USED WELL.

SO THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

INTEREST IN PRINCIPAL ON ALL OF THAT LOAN.

BUT TYPICALLY WE'RE GONNA ISSUE OUR DEBT AS CONSTRUCTION, AS THOSE CONTRACTS COME UP.

IF STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK, WE WENT AND GOT THOSE, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD DEAL.

I, I MOVE THAT NOW.

SO FOR INSTANCE, ON ON, OKAY, THESE PARTICULAR PROJECTS, WE DID, UH, SELL $5 MILLION IN BONDS RIGHT WHEN THE AWARD FOR THE DESIGN, UH, CAME OUT MM-HMM .

UM, AND THEN WE GOT THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LAST YEAR.

NOW ORIGINALLY THESE PROJECTS WERE SCHEDULED TO, TO START A LITTLE BIT EARLIER MM-HMM .

UM, AND ALTHOUGH WE'VE COMPLETED THE LOAN, WE HAVEN'T STARTED FULLY PAYING THE

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SO WE TOOK $15 MILLION, UM, I THINK OCTOBER OF 15TH.

I THINK, UM, THE REST WILL BE DELIVERED, UH, FEBRUARY OF 2026.

SO WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED, THERE IS, YEAH, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ALL 44 MILLION AT ONCE.

WE KIND OF STAGGERED IT OUT, SO IT WOULDN'T ALL GO INTO THE TAX RATE AT ONCE, BUT IT, IT'S ESSENTIALLY WE, WE'VE ACCEPTED THE LOW.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO TRY TO DISSECT AND UNDERSTAND BETTER ABOUT WHAT MAKES UP OUR TAX RATE.

AND THIS CAME UP AS WHAT WE'RE BORROWING MONEY, BUT WE'VE GOT INTEREST AS WE SAW THE SLIDE PREVIOUSLY MM-HMM .

WELL THAT SHOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME EQUATION OR UNDERSTANDING OF WHY THE TAX RATE'S HIGHER THAN WHAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, OR MAY NOT HAVE TO BE.

WELL THE, AND THAT PORTION OF THE TAX RATE IS ONLY BASED ON THE DEBT SERVICE.

IT'S NOT, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE PROJECT FUNDS, THESE ARE REALLY SEPARATE AND ONLY TO PAY FOR PROJECTS OR LACK PROJECTS OF THIS TYPE, WHATEVER THE BOND WAS IN THE BOND PROPOSITION OR THE LOAN.

UM, SO IT'S NOT APPLIED DIRECTLY TO THE TAX RATE, BUT IT DOES INDIRECTLY AFFECT THE TAX RATE IN THE FUTURE YEARS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO SELL THAT FOR, SAY, ANOTHER STREET PROJECT.

IT MAYBE, UM, RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY A PROJECT CAME IN, YOU KNOW, OVER BUDGET, UM, BUT IF THERE'S EARNINGS HERE, WE CAN'T APPLY THAT TO THAT PROJECT, RATHER.

HE CAN GO OUT AND, AND ISSUE ADDITIONAL TO THAT.

UH, STEVEN, ON OUR DEBT PORTFOLIO, UM, HAVE WE FACTORED IN, UH, THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK? IT IS.

THAT IS, THAT IS FACTORED INTO THAT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THEN COULD YOU REMIND ME ON YOUR AIRPORT PARKWAY, UM, WHY, WHY WE DIDN'T USE ANY OF THAT MONEY OR USE SOME OF THAT MONEY FOR THAT? WE HAVE USED SOME OF THAT, BUT WHY WE DIDN'T GET A STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK FOR DEEP AIRPORT PARKWAY.

UH, THAT WAS NOT AN ELIGIBLE ROAD THROUGH TX STOCK FOR, FOR THAT.

OH, IT WAS PROGRAM.

SO IT'S GOTTA BE AN ON SYSTEM OR OFF SYSTEM ROAD.

THIS ONE DID NOT QUALIFY.

SO BASICALLY THEY GAVE US A MAP OF WHICH WOULD QUALIFY AND THAT WASN'T ONE THAT, AND JIMMY WAS NOT GONNA QUALIFY.

SO ON SLIDE SIX, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE TAX RATE, BUT ON QUORUM DRIVE, AND I THINK MAYBE DAVID SAID THIS TO ME ALREADY, BUT IS THIS NORTH OR SOUTH OF BELT LINE? IS THIS IT, THIS IS IT BOAT? WELL, IT, NO, IT STARTS ABOUT AT, AT THE TRAIN TRACK AND THEN GOES SOUTH.

SO IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE TOLLWAY, BUT IT'S NOT NORTH OF THE CIRCLE.

IT'S FROM THE NEW SILVER LINE TRACK MM-HMM .

THAT'S CORRECT.

GOING SOUTH.

SO IT WON'T AFFECT THE BUSINESSES GOING NORTH.

THEY WON'T BE 20.

WE'RE NOT GONNA REPLACE THAT GOING NORTH.

OH, BECKY, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? SURE.

UM, SORRY STEVE.

SO FORM SOUTH, UM, AS DAVID MENTIONED, IT'S A PART OF THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM.

THAT ROADWAY GOES FROM THE LIGHT RAIL, UM, SILVER LINE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO DNT.

AND JEN AND I ARE GONNA BE BRINGING A PRESENTATION TO YOU NEXT TUESDAY TO TALK ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE.

THE NORTHERN PORTION, UM, WHICH IS FROM THE LIGHT RAIL, UM, ALL THE WAY UP TO, UH, WEST GROVE, UM, DOES HAVE SOME SPOT REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, UM, THROUGHOUT THAT SECTION.

UM, JUST CONCRETE PANEL REPLACEMENT, WE COULD POSSIBLY DO SOME FOAM INJECTION TO RAISE SOME OF THOSE PANELS.

UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, SOME CRACKS LAYING IN THAT AREA, BUT AT THIS POINT, IT'S NOT PLANNED FOR A COMPLETE REPLACEMENT.

SO THAT'S ALL OF OUR CURRENT VOTER AUTHORIZED PROJECTS, AND THOSE, AGAIN, ARE IN THE EXISTING, UH, FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN OR HAVE FOLLOWED OFF BECAUSE THEY'RE COMPLETE.

UM, NOW WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS COMMITTED PROJECTS.

AND THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT, UH, MAYBE, UH, THE COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED A, UH, FOR INSTANCE, FOR VITRUVIAN PARK, THERE'S A MASTER FACILITIES AGREEMENT DEVELOPER AGREEMENT THAT THE COUNCIL HAD APPROVED, UM, I BELIEVE AROUND 2010, 2012, WHICH, UH, THE TOWN HAS, UH, SOME COMMITMENTS TO THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE.

UH, SO THE TOTAL COMMITMENT FROM THE TOWN WAS APPROXIMATELY $50 MILLION.

UH, TO DATE, UH, THE TOWN HAS INVESTED ABOUT $42.5 MILLION.

UH, WE SPENT ABOUT $40.5 MILLION, AND THEN WE HAVE $2 MILLION IN BOND PROCEEDS ON HAND, UM, UH, TO BE APPLIED TO, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE, ARE ONGOING.

UM, SO THERE'S ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS REMAINING IN OBLIGATION WITH, UM, PRELIMINARY PLANS FOR APPROXIMATELY $5 MILLION, UH, IN CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION, UH, POTENTIAL IN 2027.

AND IT'S REALLY BASED ON

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THE DEVELOPER SCHEDULE.

UM, SO AS THEY DEVELOP PHASES OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, WE WOULD BRING THIS FORWARD.

WE DO HAVE THEIR FIVE YEAR PLAN AS WELL.

SO THAT'S, UH, IN THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, UH, WITH THESE PROJECTS.

BUT THIS WOULD BE, UH, ONE OF, ONE EXAMPLE OF COMMITTED PROJECTS, AND THEN WE HAVE ADDISON ROAD.

SO, UH, THIS HAD A COMMITMENT, TOTAL COMMITMENT OF SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, A QUARTER MILLION OF THAT WAS PERMIT LABORS.

UH, AND THEN THERE WAS 6.25 MILLION IN PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE REIMBURSEMENT, UH, THAT SPLIT OVER THREE DEVELOPMENT MILESTONES.

UM, SO THE TOWN SET ASIDE $3 MILLION IN CASH AND A FUND THAT WE CALL THE ADDISON GROVE ESCROW FUND.

UM, AND THAT WAS SET ASIDE BETWEEN FISCAL YEARS 2017 AND 2019.

AND, UH, THE TOWN ALSO SOLD $850,000 IN COS LAST SUMMER, UH, TO FUND THE FIRST TWO INCENTIVE TERMS. UM, WE ANTICIPATE THEM MEETING THOSE TERMS. THEY, THEY ESSENTIALLY ALREADY MET THEM.

UH, THEY JUST HAVE TO REALLY, UH, COMPLETE THE PROCESS TO, TO GET THE REIMBURSEMENT.

UM, SO, UH, ONCE THEY, UH, ARE ELIGIBLE AND SUBMIT ALL THE, THE APPROPRIATE REIMBURSEMENT ITEMS AND GET OUR SIGN OFF, UH, THOSE SHOULD BE PAID OUT SOMETIME, MAYBE THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, MAYBE THE BEGINNING OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

UM, AND THEN POTENTIALLY THERE WOULD BE THE NEED FOR THE ADDITIONAL 2 MILLION, UH, WHICH WOULD, UH, POTENTIALLY BE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, UH, WITH THAT FILE INCENTIVE TERM ANTICIPATED MAYBE IN 20 27, 20 28, UH, SOMEWHERE, UH, IN THAT TIMEFRAME.

THE QUESTION? YES, SIR.

SO BACK TO THE SLIDE 10, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY UDR AND THEN EVEN SLIDE 11 IS GROWTH BEING, IT'S NOT, LET'S CALL ON TRACK.

THE CALENDARS MOVED OUT, COSTS HAVE INCREASED.

THEY CAN'T COME BACK TO US AND SAY, THE THREE YEAR FINE SCHEDULE, WE NEED ANOTHER 1.5 MILLION.

WELL, THEY, THEY, THEY COULD DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, BUT THE ANSWER'S NO.

, YOU'RE LATE.

WE'RE NOT LATE.

YEAH, IT HAS A, YEAH, THERE'S NO ESCALATORS WITHIN THAT DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT, SO IT'S, THERE WE GO.

IT'S A HARD DOLLAR AMOUNT.

YES, GOOD TO HEAR.

UH, SAME THING WITH THE TRI PARK ALSO, AND THEIRS IS ACTUALLY BY PHASE SPECIFICALLY.

SO IF THEY SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS OVER IN ONE PHASE, THEY RE YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY WE'RE MANAGING THE PROJECTS AND THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT THEY REIMBURSE US FOR THE OVERAGE.

SO IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND OVERS SPECIFIC TO EACH PHASE.

SO ON SLIDE 11 FOR ADDISON GROVE, SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR? FOR, SO WE ACTUALLY BUDGETED IN FISCAL YEAR 2025 THAT THEY WOULD MEET THE FIRST TWO INCENTIVES.

SO WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE THAT BUDGET.

UH, THEY POTENTIALLY WILL GET TO THOSE TWO INCENTIVES.

THIS YEAR, OR IT MAY BE EARLY NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

UH, SINCE WE HAVE BEEN BUDGETED IN 2025, I WOULDN'T, AND WE STILL THINK THEY MAY GET THERE, MAYBE.

MAYBE NOT.

IT, IT'S IFFY.

SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE, BUT I WOULDN'T DOUBLE BUDGET IT.

SO IF THEY DID GET TO IT EARLY NEXT YEAR, I WOULD BRING IT BACK AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR A PRIOR YEAR ENC CONFERENCE BASICALLY.

UM, BUT SO HAVE THEY GOTTEN ANY OF THE INCENTIVES YET? THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY OF THE INCENTIVES.

THAT'S WHY, THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION, I GUESS.

SO IT'S ABOUT HALF OF IT'S COMING UP AND THEN, OR MAYBE 4 MILLION AND THEN THE REMAINDER WOULD BE IN THE NEXT, UH, TRANCHE.

THEY'VE ESSENTIALLY QUALIFIED FOR THE FIRST TWO.

IT'S REALLY MORE, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THEY NEED TO DO TO TRY TO GET IT, BUT, UH, THEY'VE ESSENTIALLY QUALIFIED FOR THE FIRST TWO BASED ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE PLUS THE AMOUNT THAT THEY VOTE.

NOW, WE DO, UH, SHOW THE, THE, THE TAX RATE GOING UP A LITTLE MORE A LITTLE BIT LATER.

SO WE ALWAYS LIKE TO SHOW THIS, UM, WE SHOW WHAT VOTERS WERE TOLD BACK IN 2019 VERSUS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO IF YOU LOOK BACK TO WHAT VOTERS WERE TOLD BACK IN 2019 WHEN THEY WERE ASKED TO VOTE ON A 70 PLUS MILLION DOLLAR BOND PROGRAM, THEY WERE TOLD THAT OVERALL THE INTEREST AND, AND, UH, OR THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE WOULD GO UP ABOUT 10.30 CENTS, UM, AS A RESULT OF THAT PROGRAM.

AND THAT IN 2026, WE WOULD SEE A TAX RATE OF ABOUT 25.70 CENTS TO SERVICE THAT DEBT.

UH, WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN IS THAT IT'S BEEN FAR LOWER AND THERE'S BEEN OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES.

WE'VE REFINANCED A LOT OF DEBT.

UM, THE INTEREST RATES ON THE DEBT WE ISSUED, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF IT HAS COME IN LOWER.

UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PROJECTING IN 2026, ABOUT 17.5% ON THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE.

UM, SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S ONLY GONE UP ABOUT 2.10 CENTS AS A RESULT OF THE BOND PROGRAM SO FAR.

WHEN VOTERS WERE TOLD THAT WE DO HAVE 10.30 CENTS

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SO THE HIGHEST THAT IT'S GONNA GET IS ABOUT, UH, 18.9 BASED ON THE CURRENT, UM, 2019 BOND PROGRAM.

BUT THAT'S STILL 6.80 CENTS BELOW WHAT VOTERS WERE TOLD BACK IN 2019.

SO, UH, WE'RE SHOWING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO WHAT VOTERS WERE TOLD, WERE BASICALLY ABOUT ONLY, ONLY HAVE INCREASED THE TAX RATE FROM THAT PROGRAM ABOUT ONE THIRD OF WHAT VOTERS WERE TOLD BACK IN 2019.

SO I THINK THAT'S A, A PRETTY GOOD STORY TO TELL.

SO, UM, ANYWAY, UH, AS WE GET THROUGH THIS BUDGET PROCESS THAT IF, UH, PROPERTY VALUES HOLD THE WAY THAT, THAT WE THINK THEY WILL, UM, WE'D POTENTIALLY BE BRINGING FORWARD, UH, THAT DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE ABOUT 17 AND A HALF CENTS, UH, FOR FISCAL YEAR 2 26.

AND THEN, LET'S SEE, NOW I'M GONNA GET INTO, SO THIS IS A REALLY A LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR EXISTING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

SO THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY OF THE NEW PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE OR YOU'RE GONNA SEE THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT THIS DOES INCLUDE, UH, REALLY WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE, UH, EXISTING, UH, PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE.

SO, UM, OVERALL, THIS IS INCLUDING ALL OF OUR FUNDS, UH, YOU KNOW, GENERAL DEBT SERVICE, GENERAL GOVERNMENT, AIRPORT, UM, UTILITY, UH, STORM WATER, UH, REALLY ALL OF THOSE, UH, THOSE, UM, FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE HAVE.

AND WE'VE GOT OVERALL ABOUT $138 MILLION, FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

UM, AND THEN WHEN WE GET INTO THE PROJECTS, ACTUALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT, SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOAN IS ACTUALLY THE LARGEST FUNDING SOURCE THAT WE HAVE.

AND, UH, WE DID GET THAT AT A VERY LOW INTEREST RATE, UM, COMPARED TO WHICH REFLECTS IN THAT TAX RATE THAT I SHOWED YOU ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

UM, AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE AS WELL, UH, AIRPORT GRANTS AIRPORT GETS SIGNIFICANT GRANTS.

THERE'S OTHER GRANT FUNDS AVAILABLE.

SO ABOUT $20 MILLION OF THIS $138 MILLION THAT'S LISTED, UH, IS FROM GRANT FUNDS.

UH, AND THEN WE'VE GOTTEN THAT, THAT, UH, LOW INTEREST LOAN WITH THE STATE.

SO REALLY, UM, THIS IS REALLY WHAT YOU'RE PAYING TAXES, UTILITY RATES ON, AND THIS IS HOW WE HOPEFULLY KEEP THE RATES AND TAXES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

OTHERWISE WOULD, QUICK QUESTION.

SO IF WE WEREN'T TRIPLE A ON GRADED WITH OUR, WHERE THOSE RATES BE DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT, THEY WOULD BE DIFFERENT, UM, ON THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK CLUB.

IT'S NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE, BUT IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE, ESPECIALLY ON $45 BILLION.

UM, IT WAS, UH, AND WE DIDN'T LOOK AT IT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE IF, IF WE WERE DOUBLE A OR WHATEVER WE LOOKED AT, WHAT IF WE HAD TO GO OUT AND SELL THE BONDS.

I THINK WHEN WE DID THAT, IT WAS AROUND AN $11 MILLION SAVINGS OVER 20 YEARS, UH, JUST COMPARED TO, 'CAUSE WE'RE GETTING BASICALLY A FULL PERCENT OFF OF WHAT WE COULD SELL THE VOLUMES FOR.

SO I, IT'S HELPFUL TO BRING THAT TO LIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE AA ONE GRADE, WE'RE GETTING A BETTER RATE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO, ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO THIS CHART CAN CONFUS ME A LITTLE BIT.

SO THE FIRST COLUMN ESTIMATED 24 25, IS THAT CASH RESERVE? I MEAN, IS THAT CASH THAT WE HAVE SITTING IN THE BANK RIGHT NOW? UM, GO BONDS THAT WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED? YEAH, THESE ARE ISSUED EXPENDITURES.

SO THIS IS WHERE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WE THINK WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY SPEND ABOUT $43.7 MILLION.

SO WE'VE SPENT MOST OF THAT.

SO THESE AREN'T NECESSARILY THE PROCEEDS WE HAVE IN THE BANK.

THIS IS THE EXPENDITURE, UH, THAT WE EXPECT EACH YEAR FOR THE NEXT FIVE.

SO THE FIRST LINE ITEM, UM, GO AND CO THAT 18 MILLION 9 82, IS THAT FUNDED ALREADY? IT'S SITTING SOMEWHERE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO EVERY, EVERY ITEM THAT 43,000,789, THAT'S ALL THIS IS ALL FUNDED, BASICALLY.

THIS IS REALLY ALL FUNDED.

WE ALREADY HAVE THESE AS YOU GET INTO SOME OF THESE, AND REALLY ALL OF THIS STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOAN WE HAVE IS FUNDED, UM, ON THE, THERE ARE SOME CERTIFICATES, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE CLEAN POTENTIALLY WITH, UM, WITH THE TRIV PARK OR ADDISON GROVE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, REALLY MOST OF THESE ARE FUNDED, UM, ESPECIALLY AS YOU GET INTO 26, 27, 25, 26, UH, WE REALLY HAVE ALL OF THOSE PROCEEDS ON HAND.

FUND OR EXCESS, MOSTLY SALES TAX.

HEY, STEVEN, QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, AND THEN IT'S A QUESTION THAT COMES, THAT I HEAR FROM TIME TO TIME AND I DON'T DO A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING IT.

COULD YOU, COULD YOU TALK US THROUGH WHAT SELF-FUNDED MEANS? SURE.

IT BASICALLY, AND WE USE SOME MAYBE LONG-WINDED FUND NAMES FOR, FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS.

UM, MOST OF, MOST OF THE ONES THAT JUST SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND, THAT'S GENERAL, THAT'S GENERALLY BEEN, UH, SAVINGS FROM THE GENERAL

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UH, REALLY WE'VE HIT OUR BUDGET OR EXCEEDED THE BUDGET IN SALES TAX, OR USUALLY WE MAY HAVE SOME EXPENDITURE SAVINGS.

IT'S BEEN TRANSFERRED OVER TO THAT FUND, SO IT'S CASH THAT WE HAVE IN THE BANK TO FUND THOSE PROJECTS.

UM, THE STREET SELF-FUNDED FUND THAT WAS ACTUALLY SOLD TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND IS KIND OF WHERE IT STARTED.

UM, AND THAT, SO IT'S BASICALLY CASH FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

NOW IT'S BEEN SOME ONE TIME REVENUE THAT MAYBE WE SOLD LAND OR I MENTIONED WE GET SOME REIMBURSEMENTS FROM UDR OR FROM DALLAS COUNTY FOR SOME ROAD PROJECTS.

IT GOES BACK INTO THIS FUND.

SO IT'S JUST CASH RESERVES THAT THE TOWN HAS, UH, TO UTILIZE FOR, FOR THESE PROJECTS RATHER THAN ISSUING ADDITIONAL DEBT.

AND WE'RE GONNA GO INTO THAT QUITE A BIT MORE IN A FEW SLIDES.

WE CAN REALLY SEE FIRST WHERE THE, WHAT THOSE FUNDS LOOK LIKE AND THEN HOW WE PLAN ON UTILIZING 'EM.

BUT I, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT AND WAS MENTIONED ON THE FIRST SLIDE OF, OF THIS PRESENTATION OF WHAT THAT MIX LOOKS LIKE, HOW WE, WE DO, WE DEBT FUND WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, BUT THEN WE ALSO, BECAUSE WE HAVE GOOD PRUDENT PRACTICES, HAVE THESE CASH RESERVES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO CASH ON PROJECTS AS WELL.

OF THE JIMMY DOOLITTLE DRIVE RECONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UM, AND ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED IN 2026.

NOW THIS IS OUR GENERAL, UH, GOVERNMENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

UM, SO KIND OF WENT OVER A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS WITHIN THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM.

UM, SO AS, AS I MENTIONED, THESE FUNDS OR THESE, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE LISTED FOR 20 25, 20 26, UH, WE ALREADY HAVE THE FUNDING IN PLACE FOR THESE.

SO, UH, THE MAJOR ONES WE HAVE WARREN DRIVE, WHICH I MENTIONED IS ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.

UH, KELLER SPRINGS, UH, ROAD, WHICH IS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

WE HAVE MONTFORD DRIVE RECONSTRUCTION, WHICH IT, WHICH IS ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN, UM, IN 2026.

UH, WE DO HAVE A VITRUVIAN PARK, UH, PHASE SIX THAT, UH, IS ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN, UH, WHICH I MENTIONED WE HAVE SOME, UH, SOME BOND PROCEEDS ON HAND FOR THOSE.

UM, CONTINUATION OF THE NORTH TEXAS EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS FACILITY, UM, THE, UH, OUTDOOR POOL RESTROOMS AND PERIMETER AND OFFENSIVE RENOVATION.

BUT WITH THE ATHLETIC CLUB, UH, WHICH WAS, UH, APPROVED IN THE BUDGET, UH, FOR LAST YEAR, UH, WEST GROVE, THEY FORMED BICYCLE LANES AT AIRPORT VIEWING AREA AND THE ARAPAHOE SURVEYOR AND SYSTEMWIDE TRAFFIC SCENE.

SO OVERALL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT 20 25, 20 26, FOR OUR GENERAL GOVERNMENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, IT'S ABOUT 23, UH, 0.5, UH, ALMOST 5.6 MILLION.

AND THEN, UH, STORE WATER, STORE WATER IS PARTICIPATING ON TWO PROJECTS.

WE HAVE ELLI SPRINGS, UH, ROAD RECONSTRUCTION, THE OX POND IMPROVEMENTS.

I'VE WENT OVER BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS.

UH, SO, UH, THE STORMWATER FUND IS SERVICING BONDS FROM BOTH OF THOSE, UH, THAT WERE SOLD LAST YEAR.

UM, SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE $5.5 MILLION, THESE PROOF OF THOSE PROJECTS.

AND THEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND, THERE'S THREE CURRENT PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE CURRENT BUDGET.

UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, LISTED OUT THERE FOR, UH, FUTURE BUDGET.

SO THAT'S A FUNDING SOURCE AGAIN, THAT THE TOWN HAS TO CASH FUND OR PAY AS YOU GO, UM, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, UM, FROM THAT FUND.

AND THEN WE HAVE A UTILITY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, PROGRAM.

SO I WILL SAY THAT THERE'S AN UPDATE TO OUR WATER AND SEWER MASTER PLAN, UH, HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

SO A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED OUT FOR 20 28, 20 29, THOSE MAY FALL OFF BECAUSE MAYBE WE DON'T NEED THOSE PROJECTS, BUT THEY MAY BE REPLACED AS WE GET BETTER DATA ON THE WATER, STATE WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM.

UM, BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR 20 25, 20 26 IS WE HAVE THE WATER METER MODERNIZATION, UH, PROJECT.

NOW THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.

UM, THAT HAS NOT, UH, MOVED FORWARD YET, BUT WE'RE ROLLING THAT OVER TO, WE'RE PROPOSING TO ROLL THAT OVER TO, UH, 2026.

AND THEN, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ADDISON CIRCLE TOWER DRIVEWAY.

THOSE ARE ALSO, UH, APPROVED IN THE 2025 BUDGET.

BUT WE'RE PROPOSING TO ROLL THIS OVER TO 2026.

SO ABOUT, UH, $2.4 MILLION FOR THE, UH, UTILITY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE AIRPORT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

SO I KNOW WHEN, WHEN YOU SEE SOME REALLY LARGE NUMBERS IN, IN THIS PROGRAM, UM, A LOT OF THOSE REALLY LARGE NUMBERS, UH, WE'RE GETTING 90% FROM THE FAA.

SO WHEN YOU SEE LARGE GRANT FUNDS IN THE AIRPORT FUND, UM, FOR INSTANCE THE BRAVO GOLF TAXIWAY IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THAT IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PAID 10% FOR THAT AND WE GOT A PROJECT THAT WAS, UH, VALUED AT 9.6 MILLION.

UM, SO SOME OF THOSE LARGER PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE FROM THE AIRPORT FUND ARE NOT NECESSARILY ALL FUNDED BY THE AIRPORT.

UM, SO JUST A, JUST A NOTE THERE.

UM, FOR, UH, THE 20 25 20 26 BUDGET, UH, WE DO HAVE THE AIRPORT FUEL STORAGE IMPROVEMENTS, A CONTINUATION OF THAT PROJECT, UH, WHICH IS IN THE CURRENT CIP PLAN, UH, THE CONTINUATION

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AND THEN THE, UH, AIRPORT REGULATED GARBAGE UTILITY BUILDING, UH, WHICH IS BEGINNING THIS YEAR, UH, WITH THAT CONSTRUCTION ANTICIPATED FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO OVERALL, UH, THE EXISTING PROGRAM HAS JUST UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS IN PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR 2026.

UH, SO AS WE GO FORWARD, UM, POTENTIAL, UH, BOND ISSUANCE FOR 2026.

SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE, UH, IF COUNSEL WISHES BRINGING THIS FORWARD IN LATE WINTER OF 2025, EARLY SPRING OF 2026.

SO THE REASON WE WOULD DO THAT, I'LL GET TO THAT, UH, AT THE END HERE, BUT WE HAVE A REFUNDING OPPORTUNITY, UM, WHICH WE WOULD WANT TO COMBINE WITH THIS, BUT WE DO HAVE FREQUENT $5 MILLION IN FIRE EQUIPMENT, $2 MILLION, UH, FOR A EQUIP REPLACEMENT, UM, AND THEN ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO REPLACE THE AIRPORT FIREFIGHTING VEHICLE.

UH, THAT ONE'S FUNDED BY THE AIRPORT, SO SERVICED BY AIRPORT REVENUE.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, AS WE GET THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT SOME OTHER POTENTIAL PROJECTS FROM THE AIRPORT, UM, INCLUDING THE FUEL FARM, WHICH I KIND OF WENT OVER.

BUT ADDITIONALLY, SOME, SOME ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE MAY WANT TO ISSUE, UH, BONDS FOR, UH, FOR, UH, THE AIRPORT, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE SERVICED BY THE AIRPORT.

BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE, UH, POTENTIAL ABILITY, UH, TO REFUND OUR 2026, UH, GA REFUNDING BONDS.

UH, THESE HAVE ALREADY BEEN REFUNDED, BUT WE CAN REFUND THEM AGAIN, .

UM, SO THESE ARE CALLABLE IN FEBRUARY OF 2026.

UM, SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REALLY DECEMBER THROUGH FEBRUARY, UH, REFUND THOSE, UM, AND BE RETURN REFUNDING.

WE ANTICIPATE BASED ON CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS THAT COULD SAVE US $450,000 TODAY.

UM, IF, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL FUNDS RATES GO DOWN, UH, 'CAUSE THESE WILL BE OUT, THESE WILL BE REALLY SHORT TERM BONDS AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE LONG TERM.

SO THE FEDERAL FUNDS RATE WILL AFFECT THESE MORE THAN THEY WOULD SAY A 20 YEAR BOND ISSUANCE.

UH, BUT WE COULD SEE THAT NUMBER, YOU KNOW, IF, IF RATES DO GO, DO GO DOWN, WE COULD SEE THAT, UH, SAVINGS NUMBER GO UP.

BUT WE'LL EVALUATE MARKET CONDITIONS WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR.

AND AS WE GET CLOSER, UH, TO THAT CALL DATE, WE'LL SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE TO CALL 'EM, UH, AND, UH, PROPOSE REFUND, UH, REFUNDING OF THOSE.

BUT RIGHT NOW IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT WOULD BE VIABLE.

SO, WHICH GIVEN THE CURRENT INTEREST RATE CONDITION, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IS, UH, MAYBE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOT OF BOND REFUNDINGS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, BUT YES, I'M GONNA JUMP IN HERE REAL QUICK.

UM, ALWAYS LOVE IT WHEN YOU BRING US SOME REFUNDING OF BONDS, SO I'M, I'M HOPEFUL FOR THAT.

BUT, UM, CAN SOMEBODY CHIPS A LIGHT ON THIS 1.5 MILLION FOR THE R REPLACEMENT THAT WE GOT A PROBLEM WITH A CURRENT APPARATUS? YOU WANT ME TO GO WITH THAT ? I CAN'T.

SO THERE'S, UM, THE R HAS A, A FOREVER CHEMICAL, RIGHT? CORRECT.

I CAN.

THE NEW APP, US , I USED THE RIGHT TERM SPEECH.

ALEXANDER, YOUR ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF.

UH, MAYOR COUNCIL.

SO JUST TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, OUR REPLACEMENT.

SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DEEMED THAT THERE IS A FOREVER CHEMICAL WITHIN OUR, OUR PHONE THAT WE USE FOR AIRCRAFT PRIVATE.

AND THIS WAS NATIONWIDE.

UH, THIS WAS JUST WAS NOT ISOLATED TO THE TOWN OF MADISON.

THIS WAS NATIONWIDE BANNED BAD SUBSTANCE.

SO WE'RE NO LONGER USE THAT SUBSTANCE.

SO EVEN IF WE CLEAN IT OUT, FLUSH IT OUT, UH, IT'S STILL A FOREVER CHEMICAL AND IT'S IN EVERYTHING.

AND SO IF WE WOULD CLEAN IT UP, FLUSH IT OUT, SPRAY WATER, IF THERE'S AN AIRCRAFT FIRE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT WOULD STILL BE A HAZMAT SEAT.

SO WE NO LONGER NEED TO USE THAT.

RAZ.

IS THERE SOME TYPE OF RECALL OPPORTUNITY THERE? SO WHAT, WHAT WE JUST BOUGHT THAT RIGHT? OR LEASED IT OR IT'S BEEN ABOUT FIVE.

IT'S BEEN ABOUT FIVE.

SO WE'RE, WE ARE TRADING IT IN, SO WE'RE GETTING VALUE FROM THAT.

YOU'RE TRADING IT? YES, SIR.

FROM THE SAME MANUFACTURER.

UH, FROM A DIFFERENT MANUFACTURER.

THEY'RE PERSON, YOUR OFF IS US, AND THEN THEY, THEY TAKE THE PHONE.

ACTUALLY, THAT'S A HUGE SAVINGS FOR US BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO DESTROY THE PHONE.

IF WE WOULD'VE HAD TO KEEP THAT APPARATUS, WE WOULD'VE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DESTROYING THE PHONE.

AND SO, BUT WE WORK TO DEAL OUT WITH THEM THAT THEY TAKE THAT APPARATUS AND ALL THE EXTRA PHONE THAT WE HAVE THAT'S DEEMED NOT USABLE.

SO WE'LL TAKE EVERYTHING WITH HIM.

WHAT BRAND PROBLEM IS THAT? CH ONE? YES, SIR.

EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE EXPOSED TO.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND, BUT SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY REQUESTS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THAT FUND, UM, IT'S NOT SHOWN, BUT WE DO HAVE THAT BUCKET OF MONEY AS WELL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT? OKAY, SO NOW I'M GONNA GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF OUR CASH FUNDED, UH, SOURCES THAT WE HAVE.

UM, I MENTIONED

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UM, SO AS WE GET INTO THESE, SO WE MENTIONED THAT WE DO FUND A LOT OF CAPITAL PROJECTS FROM AVAILABLE RESERVES OR CASH FUNDS.

UM, WE DO A LOT OF OUR ONE-TIME REQUESTS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT CAPITAL PROJECTS, BUT IT MAY BE, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, DESIGN OR A STUDY OR REALLY ANY, ANY TYPE OF ONE TIME PURCHASE.

UH, WE HAVE THESE AVAILABLE FUNDS TO USE.

UM, SO WE'VE GOT SOME, UH, POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT YOU'LL SEE COMING UP, UH, THAT MAY BE INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE BUDGET GOING FORWARD, UH, FOR REVIEW AND DISCUSSION.

UM, SO THE NEXT TWO SLIDES I'M GONNA SHOW YOU, UH, IS, IS SHOWING OUR SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND AND OUR STREET SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND.

AND, UH, WE'RE PRESENTING IT AS IF ALL OF THESE PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE WERE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THEIR IMPACT ON THOSE FUNDS.

UM, AND THEN AS WE GET THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE DO HAVE OTHER FUNDS LIKE THE AIRPORT FUND OR UTILITY FUND OR STORMWATER FUND.

THOSE OPERATE MORE LIKE A BUSINESS AND THEY'RE SELF-SUPPORTING.

SO THOSE, UH, PROJECTS, UH, THAT ARE REALLY THEIR ONE TIME PROJECTS WILL BE PRESENTED, UH, WHEN THOSE FUNDS GET PRESENTED.

UM, AND ALSO THIS IS A LONG PRESENTATION, SO WE DIDN'T WANNA MAKE IT THAT MUCH LONGER.

UM, SO GETTING INTO OUR SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND AND, UM, I'M GONNA STEP OVER HERE AND POINT A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UH, WE ANTICIPATE BEGINNING THE YEAR WITH ABOUT, UH, $7.8 MILLION AVAILABLE IN THAT FUND.

AND AGAIN, THAT REALLY IS, UM, MANY YEARS OF GENERAL FUND EITHER, UH, SALES TAX OR OTHER REVENUE SOURCES EXCEEDING THEIR BUDGETS OR, UH, OR PERSONNEL SAVINGS, UH, REALLY OR OTHER EXPENDITURE SAVINGS.

UM, SO WITH ALL THE PROJECTS YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE, UH, THOSE, THOSE COME OUT TO ABOUT, UH, A LITTLE OVER $3 MILLION.

SO AS WE GET THROUGH, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU SAID WE WANT ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU PRESENTED, THERE'D STILL BE AT THE END OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR, UM, JUST UNDER $5 MILLION LEFT IN RESERVE WITHIN THAT FUND.

CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT SELF-FUNDED? YES.

ON BRIEFLY.

SO I HEARD YOU WHEN YOU SAID IT GETS FUNDED FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

ARE THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS ON HOW WE USE THOSE FUNDS? THERE ARE NOT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THERE.

WELL, LET ME, THERE ARE, THERE, THERE IS A PORTION THAT, THAT ARE, SO WE DO HAVE TREE MITIGATION FUNDS THAT, THAT WE ADD IN THIS FUND, AND THOSE CAN ONLY BE USED FOR, UM, BASICALLY REPLANTING, REPLANTING TREES.

SO, UM, THOSE FUNDS, BUT THAT'S A VERY LITTLE PORTION, A SMALL PORTION OF THIS OVERALL LEVEL.

AND THEN SAME THING WITH THIS STREET SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND.

THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS.

IT'S REALLY AN EXTENSION OF THE GENERAL FUND, BUT, UM, AS, AND THIS PRO, THIS ONE SHOWS FIVE YEARS BECAUSE IT HAS CAPITAL PAYMENT PROJECTS INCLUDED IN IT.

UM, BUT, UH, THIS FUND WE ANTICIPATE BEGINNING WITH ALMOST $6 MILLION, UH, IN THIS FUND.

AND, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME, UM, EXISTING CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WERE BUDGETED FROM HERE.

SO, UH, VITRUVIAN, UH, BELLA, BELLA LANE EXTENSION THERE, UH, THE WEST GROVE FORM BICYCLE LANE, UH, PORTION THERE.

UH, UM, AND THEN YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT'S A, THAT'S A NEW PROJECT.

AND THEN IN THE FUTURE YEARS WE HAVE SOME, SOME FUNDING FOR VITRUVIAN PARK AND THEN COLOR SPRINGS ROAD, REALLY, BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING $4 MILLION FROM, UH, DALLAS COUNTY.

SO WE HAD REVENUE COMING IN AND THAT'S BEING SPENT ON, UH, COLOR SPRINGS ROAD.

BUT EVEN IF, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS PRO THESE PROJECTS WERE APPROVED AND THERE'S ALSO OPERATING EXPENDITURES, WHICH, UH, BECKY WILL GO OVER, UM, SOME OF THOSE, UM, MAINTENANCE PROJECTS AS WELL.

UM, SO EVEN IF YOU KNOW THE PROJECTS AND, AND, UM, UH, ITEMS YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE, IF YOU SAID, YES, WE WANNA DO ALL OF THOSE, WE'D STILL END, UH, IN THIS FUND AT REALLY THE END OF THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD WITH ABOUT $2.6 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.

OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GET INTO, UH, THE CAPITAL AND, UH, WE, ONE TIME PROJECT REQUEST, AS I MENTIONED, THOSE WERE INCLUDED IN THE TWO FUNDS YOU JUST SAW.

SO, UM, AS YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, IF THERE IS FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THESE, IT'S REALLY WHETHER OR NOT MY COUNCIL WISHES TO HAVE THOSE PROJECTS.

AND THEN FIRST WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, BECKY WITH PUBLIC WORKS, SHE'S GONNA GO OVER HER PROJECTS AND THEN AFTER HER WE'RE GONNA HAVE JANA COME UP AND DO GO OVER HER PROJECTS.

SO I'M GONNA SIT DOWN FOR A WHILE.

THANK YOU STEVEN.

UM, BECKY DIVINITY, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND .

SO THE FIRST PROJECT I BRING YOU TODAY IS THE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS.

AS YOU'RE VERY WELL AWARE, UM, THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS GOING TO BE CREATING THAT

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PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX.

UM, AND OUR GOAL IS TO START IMPLEMENTING THE TOOLBOX.

UM, AS YOU CAN TELL, THERE WILL BE MANY THINGS LIKE SIGNAGE, UM, PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACONS, LIGHTING, PEDESTRIAN REFUGE AREAS.

AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WORK TO TAKE NOT ONLY THE TOOLBOX, OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, OUR CURRENT WORK ORDER SYSTEM, UM, WHICH IS CALLED CITY WORKS, OUR A DA TRANSITION PLAN, AND THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND WORK TO START IMPLEMENTING THOSE OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

UM, THE GOAL WOULD BE TO START WITH $150,000 AND ANNUALLY INCREASE THAT BY 25,000.

UM, AND SO YOU'LL SEE IN FY, UH, 30 THAT WE WOULD BE UP TO $250,000.

BUT BEFORE YOU GO ANY FURTHER, CAN I ASK YOU TO EXPLAIN SURE.

THE TERM TOOLBOX? ABSOLUTELY.

UH, I SURE CAN.

I APOLOGIZE.

I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN HERE DURING THIS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, SO THE PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX IS SOMETHING THAT AS SOON AS I GOT HERE, LAST OCTOBER, I HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM OUR COUNCIL, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO A LOT OF THE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MADE.

SO WE WORKED WITH OUR CONSULTANT TO DO AN AMENDMENT TO OUR OVERALL MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, UM, PACKAGE, UH, DESIGN SUBMISSION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING.

AND I WAS AWARE THAT OTHER TOWNS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS ACTUALLY HAVE PREPARED A SIMILAR DOCUMENT.

AND SO FOLKS LIKE AMARILLO AND LUBBOCK HAVE ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER A DOCUMENT, UM, AND TOOLBOX IS JUST KIND OF A CATCHY PHRASE.

UM, ESSENTIALLY IT IS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TOOLS THAT ARE A PART OF THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION.

UM, WHETHER IT'S SIGNAGE, WHETHER IT'S A PEDESTRIAN REFUGE, WHETHER IT'S A PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON, A RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASHING BEACON LIGHTING IN CERTAIN AREAS, STRIPING SIGNAGE.

AND IT'S GOING TO LOOK AT OUR SYSTEM OVERALL.

UM, AND IT'S ALSO WITH THE MAP THAT ARE GONNA BE PROVIDED BECAUSE THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS A MULTIMODAL PLAN.

SO IT HAS A BICYCLE, PEDESTRIAN, AND PARTICULAR TRAFFIC.

SO THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE THROUGHOUT OUR TOWN TO IMPLEMENT AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL HELP OUR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.

WELL, REFURBISHMENT, YES.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST PROJECT, UM, AND THEN I'M GONNA TALK THROUGH A SERIES OF OTHER PROJECTS AND JANA HAS ONE OF THESE ALSO.

UM, SO THE NEXT PROJECT I BRING TO YOU IS THE ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT PAPER REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

UM, THE GOAL WITH THIS IS TO, UM, LOOK AT A TARGETED, UM, BASICALLY REPLACEMENT PROGRAM WHERE YOU CAN BRING CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS AND AREAS INTO A DA COMPLIANCE.

AND THIS WOULD BE THROUGHOUT THE MAA DISTRICT AND ALSO OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT.

UM, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE ALL AWARE THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL AREAS WHERE PAPERS NEED TO BE REPLACED, EITHER DUE TO HEAVING, BROKEN BRICKS, DAMAGE CAUSED BY ROOTS, UM, WHERE THERE'S THE NATURAL WEAR AND TEAR.

UM, THE ESTIMATE OF THIS IS TO START ONE TIME NEXT YEAR WITH $200,000.

UM, YOU CAN SEE, UH, AND JANA CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT THIS, THIS IS SOME OF THE AREA WHERE THERE'S TREE WELLS.

UM, AND THEN MORE SPECIFICALLY, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THROUGHOUT TOWN, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS A STORM DRAIN INLET THAT, UM, HAS, THIS HAS RAISED AND THE CONCRETE AROUND IT HAS SETTLED AND THE SOIL AROUND IT HAS SETTLED.

SO YOU CAN SEE AN UNEVEN SURFACE SIMILARLY HERE, RIGHT UP NEXT TO THE BUILDING.

SO ONE THING YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN FOLKS ARE, UM, ACTUALLY, UM, HAVE SOME KIND OF DISABILITY, THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE AND FEEL FROM THE SENDING AND RECEDING RAMP.

SO PR PRETEND THAT YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA GO STRAIGHT ACROSS OR THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO TRY TO DO.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL OF SOME OF THESE IMPLEMENTATIONS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT DOING.

AND THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE WOULD BE DOING IN COMBINATION OF PARKS.

BECKY, A QUESTION ON THE, ON THE TREE.

ON THE TREE.

SO THOSE ARE THE AREAS AND, AND I'VE HEARD COMMENTS FROM SOME OF THE BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, WHERE THERE USED TO BE LANDSCAPING AND NOW IT'S JUST KIND OF DIRT AND THE ROADS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDRESSING THOSE.

AND JAN'S ACTUALLY GONNA GO INTO SOME GREAT DETAIL IN JUST ONE MINUTE AND TELL YOU A LOT ABOUT THAT.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND SO, UM, WE'LL ALL WAIT FOR THAT THEN.

UHHUH UP AGAINST THE BUILDING.

AT ANY POINT IS MAA RESPONSIBLE TO SHARE IN THE COST OF SOME OF THESE REPAIRS AT ALL? AGAIN, THOSE WILL BE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE EVALUATING THROUGH THE PROCESS, UM, AS WE

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WORK THROUGH THAT.

UM, SOME OF THOSE AREAS ARE WHERE THE RIGHT OF WAY EXTENDS TO AND THEN OUR, UM, PROPERTY EXTENDS TO.

SO THOSE WILL BE THINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH.

THAT'S ACTUALLY CONTRACT.

SO YOU'VE SEEN PROBABLY THESE PICTURES IN THE FRIDAY REPORT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA THAT'S THE SMALL BOWL OF ROOTS THAT, UM, WAS JUST REMOVED IN THE AREA IN NEAR ARTIST WAY.

UM, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE BRICK PAPERS THAT WERE BEING PLACED BACK DOWN.

SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF AN AREA WHERE WE WOULD GO IN AND TACKLE WITH THIS $200,000, THIS PROJECT RIGHT HERE COST ABOUT $17,000 TO DO IN THIS AREA.

UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO HIT MULTIPLE AREAS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.

UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT IN M AA, IS THAT IN-HOUSE LABOR OR IS THAT CONTRACT? NO, SIR.

AND SO IF I JUST JUMP IN, BECAUSE REALLY THE NEXT THREE PACKAGES ALL WORK TOGETHER.

WE HAVE THIS ONE IN THE TREE, WELL REFRESHMENT, AND THEN THE LONG RANGE PLAN, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT AS WE LOOK AT THE PAVERS IN, IN PARTICULAR, WE KNOW WE HAVE AN ISSUE IN THE ENTIRE AREA.

AND TO REALLY DO A TRUE FIX FOR THE ENTIRE AREA MEANS GOING IN AND FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGING THE WAY THE BRICKS ARE LAID AND WHAT'S UNDER THE BRICKS.

THAT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

AND SO THIS 200,000 IS NOT GONNA FIX THE PROBLEM.

IT'S GONNA BE SPOT TREATMENTS THAT AREN'T EVEN LONG TERM SOLUTIONS, BUT IT CAN HELP US GET BY.

AND SO THE THIRD ITEM THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE RELATES, IT'LL, IT'LL SAY THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH THAT PLAN, DO A TRUE ASSESSMENT OF WHAT DO WE NEED SO WE CAN COME UP WITH A LONG RANGE PLAN BECAUSE THIS IS NOT, UH, INEXPENSIVE PRO TO FIX WHAT WE NEED TO IN THE ENTIRE AREA IS NOT INEXPENSIVE.

AND WE REALLY NEED TO BE DELIBERATE ABOUT HOW WE GO ABOUT THAT.

THIS 200,000 HELPS US AT LEAST GET SOME OF THE, THE AREAS THAT REALLY NEED TO BE TOUCHED NEXT YEAR AS WE GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE PROCESS.

THANK YOU DAVID.

WELL, IS NOW THE TIME TO ASK ABOUT THE PAPERS AND IN THE LONG TERM, IS IT MORE COST EFFICIENT OR IS THERE A WAY OF LOOKING AT REPLACING PAVERS AND, AND HAVING LIKE STENCIL CONCRETE PUT DOWN TO, TO HAVE THE LOOK BUT PUT TO REDO ALL THAT IN CONCRETE RATHER THAN PAVERS? SO WE, SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF STAMP CONCRETE ON OUR ROADS AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE ACTUALLY MAKE A BIG TRANSITION TO AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO IT.

THAT'S A POLICY CONVERSATION WE CAN HAVE.

I THINK IT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA, ESPECIALLY IF WE WENT TO CONCRETE AND STAMP CONCRETE.

I LOVE THE PAGE, I LOVE THE, THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA.

AND IF WE COULD DO MY QUESTION, IT IS NOT A SUGGESTION, IT'S JUST A QUESTION.

CAN WE DO SOMETHING CONCRETE TO GIVE IT THE PAPER? LOOK, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT KEEPS CHARACTER, BUT A LONG TERM, MORE OF A LONG TERM FIX RATHER THAN, BECAUSE EVERYTHING YOU'RE TELLING US IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME IT SOUNDS LIKE.

SO RIGHT.

AND YEAH, THE LONG TERM FIX IS GONNA BE A LOT OF MONEY FOR YEAH, I I YOU'RE EXACT, I THINK THERE'S ALSO ISSUES WITH THE STAMP CONCRETE OF IT BEING SLICK TOO.

IF YOU TRIED TO DO THE STAMP CONCRETE, THIS IS NOT GONNA BE VERY WALKABLE, SO, OKAY.

UM, JAN OR BECKY JUMP IN ON SURE.

HAVE YOU SEEN SOME OF THESE AREAS IN TOWN WOULD'VE BEEN STAMP CONCRETE? I NOT IN TOWN.

I'VE SEEN 'EM AT HOMES, YOU KNOW, IN DRIVEWAYS AND SIDEWALKS AND I COULD, I'VE GOT 'EM AT MY HOUSE IN STEPS.

YEAH, I CAN SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF THEM.

UM, BUT, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT WHOLE DIFFERENT LOOK.

I'D LIKE, YEAH, THROUGH THIS.

LOOK AT THAT.

WOULD WE, THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY AN OPTION AS THE LONGER TERM OPTIONS COME UP.

THAT'S ONE OF THEM THAT WE CONSIDER.

I MEAN AS WHENEVER , IF WE DO THAT ASSESSMENT, WE COME BACK, WE CAN LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS.

I MEAN YOU CAN ALSO LOOK AT WHAT IF YOU GO DOWN FOR, TOWARDS BELTLINE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE WHAT WE DO AT AM THERE.

IT'S NOT ALL BRICKS, RIGHT? IT'S CONCRETE AND BRICKS.

IT'S A MIX.

AGAIN, THAT CHANGES THE CHARACTER, BUT IT'S ALL TRADE OFFS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE CERTAINLY WE CAN BRING SOME OPTIONS.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT, IT STILL GOES BACK TO THE, YOU KNOW, IS THE TOWN RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY SQUARE INCH OR IS MAA OR ANY PROPERTY OWNER RESPONSIBLE TO SHARE ON THE COST OF THESE REPAIRS? THAT'S ALL I CARE.

FIRST YEAR, FOCUSING ON EVERYTHING ON QUORUM DRIVE FROM BIMAN AVENUE TO FESTIVAL WAY.

TAKE FURTHER THAT OUT.

I AGREE.

SOMEBODY ELSE BESIDE THE TOWN HAS TO BE RESPONSIBLE, SO WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

MAAI MEAN, IT'S JUST A FACT.

MAA IS RESPONSIBLE UP TO A CERTAIN POINT AND IT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT MAYBE IN DIFFERENT SPOTS.

THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE.

I SAID THAT'LL BE A CONVERSATION FOR US TO HAVE AND WE'LL, WE'LL BE HAVING THAT OTHER FUNDING OPTIONS LIKE QUESTION NANCY.

SO THE OTHER, SO THAT'S A GREAT, A GREAT POINT AS AS WE COME BACK, UM, AS WE IMPLEMENT THE TOUR, THIS IS A PERFECT PROJECT FOR TOUR IN THE FUTURE.

AS WE GET INTO THAT, THE REP TAX REVENUE HERE, AS IT INCREASES, IT HELPS TO PAY FOR PROJECT LIKE THIS, THIS IS REALLY WHAT IT TOUR IS KIND OF MADE FOR AND WILL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL DURING THE ASSESSMENT TOO AND TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.

SO I'M GONNA MOVE ON AND LET JANA WALK TO THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT REFURBISHING, UM, SOME OF THE PLANT AREA OR THE PAVING AREAS, WE'D LIKE TO COME IN AND REFURBISH THE TREE, AIR WELLS, ESPECIALLY THIS

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SO THAT WOULD GET KIND OF THE FRONT DOORS OF ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES ON QUORUM, UM, IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.

THE TREE WELLS THAT ARE ALONG THIS AREA ARE MISSING A LOT OF THE ORIGINAL PLANT MATERIAL, WHICH WAS JOON HOLLY'S, UM, JOON HOLLY'S LOVE LOW LIGHT CONDITIONS, SO THEY WEAR A GREAT PLANT FOR THAT IDEA.

UM, BUT THEY'RE VERY, UM, FINE WOOD IF YOU OPEN YOUR CAR DOOR AND AND BUMP THEM, THEY BREAK VERY EASILY.

UM, PEDESTRIANS WALKING BY DOGS WALKING BY MAY ALSO TAKE A LOT OF PET ABUSE FROM THE NUMBER OF PETS THAT WE HAVE IN THE AREA, AND THEY NECESSARILY CAN'T THRIVE UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS.

SO WE WOULD PROPOSE COMING BACK IN WITH DIFFERENT PLANT MATERIAL, UM, MORE OF A LOW GROUND COVER, LIKE THE VARIETY THAT CAN HANDLE SOME OF THAT ABUSE.

UM, IT ALSO WE'RE VERY LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN PLANT BACK RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE THOSE TREE WELLS ARE SO FULL OF ROOTS.

UM, TRYING TO COME IN WITH A FIVE GALLON ROOT BALL AND PLANT, UM, ISN'T POSSIBLE, BUT WE CAN COME BACK IN WITH ORANGE PLANTS AND POCKET FILL THEM.

UM, ANOTHER THING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO TO ADD SOME MORE INTEREST IN THE CIRCLE DISTRICT IS ADD A PERENNIAL PLANT THAT WILL GET SOME COLOR DURING THE SUMMER.

SO WE WOULD HAVE THAT VARIETY.

THAT WOULD BE THE EVERGREEN YEAR ROUND.

AND THEN IN THE SUMMER WE WOULD HAVE SOME PLANTS KIND OF FILLING IN THAT WOULD COME IN AND GIVE A POP OF COLOR.

UM, WE ARE ESTIMATING THE COST TO COME IN AND DO THIS WORK IS $200,000.

A LOT OF THE COST IN THAT IS TO REWORK THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM.

THE ROOTS OF THE TREES HAVE KIND OF GROWN AROUND THE EXISTING IRRIGATION IN THOSE TREE WELLS.

AND SO IF WE'RE IN THERE WORKING AND WE'RE PUTTING NEW PLANT MATERIAL IN THERE THAT NEEDS MORE WATER UP FRONT, WE REALLY NEED TO SPEND THE TIME TO GET THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM REWORKED.

AND SO THAT'S A LOT OF THE, THE COST THAT YOU SEE IN THERE.

AND THEN I'LL HAND IT BACK.

GO WHILE YOU'RE THERE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

QUESTION.

THIS IS, THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM THAT HAS COME UP OVERNIGHT.

THESE TREE WELLS HAVE BEEN MM-HMM .

DETERIORATING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND, AND WE'VE REPLANTED ON ONCE.

SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE BEEN HERE EIGHT YEARS, WE PLANTED ON ONE TIME COMING BACK IN WITH SMALLER GOON HOLLYS MM-HMM .

UM, TRYING TO BE TRUE TO WHAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS.

UM, AND THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO SURVIVE THE, UM, THE PET ABUSE THAT'S HAPPENING ALONG FORM.

I, I WALK THAT AREA A LOT, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THE, THE ROOTS AND, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE BED SEEMS AS THOUGH THE SOIL HAS ALMOST BEEN WASHED OUT OR IT'S LOW.

I MEAN, THERE'S, IN SOME PLACES IT'S FOUR OR FIVE INCHES.

IS THAT NOT AN AREA WE CAN COME IN AND, AND JUST PUT SOME SOIL IN AND PUT SEASONAL COLOR TO REALLY GIVE SOME GOOD COLOR POPS IN THAT AREA TO, TO FRESHEN IT UP.

SO WE WILL ADD, UM, WE WILL ADD SOIL WHEN WE DO PLANNING THAT'S STANDARD REMAIN PLANNING PROJECT THAT WE DO.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE EVERGREEN AND THEN DO, UM, ADD PERENNIALS.

THE SEASONAL COLOR IS GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT COST OVER WHAT I'M PRESENTING HERE.

YOU KNOW, PALLADIUM JUST DO SO WELL IN SHADE AND THEY WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL IN THOSE BEDS.

AND I'M NOT, MAYBE NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT HAVE CERTAIN, SOME IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESSES THERE THAT REALLY I, IT DOES NEED TO BE REPLACED FOUR TIMES A YEAR.

AND I'M ASKING, I I UNDERSTAND.

AND DID WE LET 'EM GO TO THIS, TO THIS POINT BECAUSE OF A, OF ANOTHER REASON? POSSIBLY.

WE THOUGHT WE WAS TEARING THE ROAD UP ANYWAY AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO HAVE WE LET IT GET TO THIS POINT ON PURPOSE OR THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS OF REPLACING THE PAVING WITH A CONCRETE UNDER SLACK TO HOLD A BRICK PAPERS IN PLACE.

AND OUR TEAM DID A LOT OF RESEARCH.

I, I SPENT PART OF A FAMILY VACATION IN NEW YORK WALKING AROUND AND FINDING OUT HOW DO THEY DEAL WITH PETS IN URBAN AREAS AND WHAT'S SUCCESSFUL AND WHAT WAS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL IS TO HAVE A SIX INCH CURVE THAT TURNS UP AND PROTECTS, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF A BUFFER AROUND THE PLANT MATERIAL.

AND THEN IT'S GOT A METAL PLANTER FENCE ON TOP OF IT.

AND SO WE WERE HOPEFUL THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH A COMBINED PROJECT WITH PUBLIC WORKS WHERE WE COULD DO MORE OF A LONG TERM SOLUTION.

UM, SO THAT WAS A PLAN OF OURS IS TO COME IN AND ADD THAT.

UM, BUT WE'RE GOING TO COME IN WITH KIND OF A, AN INTERIM PLANNING PLAN KNOWING THAT IF WE EVER DO CONCRETE WORK IN THAT AREA, WE WOULD COME IN WITH THAT SOLUTION.

FLAT THERE, AND AS PART OF THE BIKE LANE PROJECT, THERE WAS GOING TO BE A RECONSTRUCTION OF THAT AREA, OF THAT PAVING.

SO, AND I WOULD ALSO, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK OUT THERE, THE PROBLEM IS WE CAN'T JUST ADD SOIL.

IT'S GONNA WASH AWAY THE DRAIN BECAUSE THE ROOTS HAVE COME UP.

THE PAVING IS

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AND SO WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE, AS PART OF THE BIKE LANE PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO REDO PART OF THE PAVERS TREE WELLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT IS KIND OF WHY IT'S, WE ARE, WE'RE AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW.

WAS THAT POINT THROUGH THE CIRCLE WAS GONNA BE DONE AS PART OF THE BIKE LANE PROJECT.

THAT THAT'S WHAT I SUSPECTED, BUT NOW THAT'S GONE.

I UNDERSTAND.

SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH OTHER PLANS TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING.

WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT WEEK.

THAT ANSWERS MY, YOU ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION.

RESPONDING TO RANDY, WHICH IS THERE'S HUNDREDS OF DOGS, YOU'RE NOT GONNA, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE IN ANY KIND OF PLANT BATTLE WITH THAT KIND OF ABUSE.

JUST I KNOW IT WELL, VARIETY SEEMS TO BE THE MOST DURABLE UNDER THAT CIRCUMSTANCE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND THAT IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT.

CAN YOU TELL THEM WHAT WE'RE YES.

IT'S UM, ALSO CALLED LY TURF.

IT'S A KIND OF A GREEN MOUNDING GRASS.

GRASS.

I, IT'S GREEN.

THREE PASS WOULD BE GOOD.

SHE'S LIKE, THAT'S, I WAS LIKE, OKAY, ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT DOWNTOWN, I'M SURE THEY HAVE THE SAME ISSUE.

AND YOU'RE SEEING NOW LIKE A RAISE, UM, POT WA WAIST TIE AND PLANNING SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT LAST A LITTLE LONGER THAN A, THAT WOULD BE A MORE LONG TERM FIX.

IF WE WERE DOING CONCRETE WORK WHERE WE COULD COME IN AND ACTUALLY WORK AROUND SOME OF THE ROOTS A LITTLE BETTER, MAYBE WIDEN THE BEDS A LITTLE BIT, PUT A CONCRETE EDGE AROUND IT IN A CLEANER FENCE.

SO PART OF WHAT WE'LL DO IS PART OF THE ASSESSMENT THAT YOU'LL SEE LATER IS COMING IN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE IN THE CIRCLE THAT WE, WE KNOW AND WE'VE HEARD, YES SIR, WE NEED TO INCREASE LIGHTING.

THE TREE CANOPY HAS MADE IT WHERE THE LIGHTING ISN'T SUFFICIENT.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RUN ELECTRICITY TO, YOU KNOW, UPLIGHT THOSE TREES WHEN WE COME IN.

IF THAT'S WHAT WE DO, WE COME IN, WHEN WE PUT IN THE SLEEPER SLAB TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE PAPERS DON'T MOVE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL GIVE YOU AN OPTION FOR IS TO HAVE THOSE RAISED BEDS.

WE WANNA KEEP THOSE TREES, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO BASICALLY COME IN ADD SOIL, BE ABLE TO PUT IN THE PLANNING IS TO HAVE THE RAISED BETS, KEEP THE ANIMALS OUT OF IT AND ALL OF THAT.

SO AS THE NEXT DECISION PACKAGE THAT YOU'LL SEE IS DOING THAT ASSESSMENT SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK WITH A PLAN THAT SAYS, THIS IS BASICALLY HOW MUCH IT IS TO FIX THE ENTIRE CIRCLE IN THE WAY THAT WE WANT IT.

FIX THE PAVERS, FIX THE TREE WELLS, ADD ELECTRICITY, FIX ALL THE IRRIGATION.

IT'S GONNA COST THIS MUCH.

AND HERE'S WHAT WE PROPOSE AND HOW WE DO IT IN BASIS.

BUT I WOULD JUST, I MEAN, THESE TWO ITEMS ARE SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO JUST DO NOTHING FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS WHILE WE FIGURE THAT OUT.

A COUPLE PLAN, WE WANT TO GO TRY TO TARGET SOME OF THESE.

AND IF WE HAVE A LONG TERM SOLUTION, WE CAN HAVE IN TANDEM AND PARALLEL AND FIGURE IT OUT.

BUT WE DON'T WANT IT TO JUST SIT LIKE THAT YEAH.

FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

EXACTLY.

AND I'M GLAD WE'RE TAKING THIS APPROACH BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, OVER THE YEARS, RANDY'S KIND OF ALLUDING TO IT, IS THERE'S BEEN INACTION, YOU KNOW, IT'S NEGLECT.

IS IT ON PURPOSE, IS IT DELAY BECAUSE OF OTHER PROJECTS LIKE QUORUM? UM, SO THIS, I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS, THIS AS A, AN INTERIM, UH, TARGET AS WELL AS YOU'VE LEARNED SOME THINGS AND COME UP WITH A LONGER TERM OPTIONS FOR, AND I THINK THAT SEGUES, WE'VE HEARD ABOUT IT.

I THINK HOWARD, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

WHAT ABOUT TURF? ARTIFICIAL TURF? WILL THE DOGS URINE HER THAT, OR TO THAT MAKE THEM LOOK BETTER? AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A D IRRIGATION.

WHERE ARTIFICIAL TURF IS SUCCESSFUL AROUND PETS.

THIS MIGHT HAVE AN UNDER DRAIN SYSTEM, BUT YOU TURN ON AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM THAT SPRAYS THIS.

A LOT OF THESE HAVE TREES, UM, LIKE DRIP IRRIGATION, BUT YOU HAVE SPRAYS, IT WASHES WHAT'S IN THE TURF INTO THE UNDER DRAIN SYSTEM AND TAKES IT AWAY.

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT SYSTEM, IT WILL BE VERY SMELLY.

MM-HMM.

SO YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO WASH IT OUT.

I SEE, I SEE SPRINKLER HEADS IN THOSE, IN THOSE STREET WELLS.

IS THAT NOT, SOME OF THOSE ARE BUBBLERS THAT, UM, IT DOESN'T SPRAY.

IT'S GONNA BUBBLE RIGHT AT A SOURCE AND IT'S NOT GONNA COVER THE WHOLE THING AND RINSE IT.

ISN'T THAT JUST A HEAD THOUGH? IT, THERE'S WATER LINE RUNNING THERE.

WE CAN CHANGE IT'S AHEAD WITH A PRESSURE RATING TO IT.

WITH A WHOLE SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T GO OVER A CERTAIN PRESSURE BECAUSE A HEAD THAT'S A SPRAY USES MORE PRESSURE.

SO THERE'S A POINT WHERE ON THAT ZONE, WE WILL MAX OUT THE PRESSURE AND IT WON'T WORK.

YOU'D HAVE TO SET ANOTHER ZONE.

SO YOU COULD DO IT IN ZONES AND, AND RUN ZONES RATHER THE WHOLE STREET AT ONE TIME.

WHEN WE GET INTO ADDING MORE ZONES IN THIS FOR TEAR, NOT CONCRETE AND CONTAINERS.

DOES THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN UNDERGROUND DRAIN SYSTEM?

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SYSTEM? YEAH.

AND IT HAS TO TIE INTO THE SANITARY SEWER.

NOT THE STORM SEWER.

SO IT GETS KIND OF COMPLICATED, BUT WHERE IS IT GOING NOW? I MEAN, THE DOGS ARE PEEING ALL OVER IT, SO IF WE DON'T HAVE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I MEAN, WHERE DOES THAT GO? IT SO IT'S GOING INTO THE SOIL.

UM, SOIL WILL START TO BREAK DOWN WHAT SMELLS, ALTHOUGH IT IS, YOU CAN SMELL IT AFTER A RAIN OUT THERE, BUT SOIL DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB.

IT'S STARTING TO BREAK DOWN.

WHEN IT GETS AN ARTIFICIAL TURF, IT SITS THERE AND IT DOESN'T MAKE BREAK DOWN OR GRAVE.

AND SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

ABOUT, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A LOT MORE OF THIS NEXT, NEXT WEEK OR FAIRLY SOON.

WELL, NEXT WEEK WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CORN.

WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE, UM, BIKE LANE PROJECT GOING NORTH AND QUORUM DRIVE GOING SOUTH.

SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON TALKING ABOUT PAVERS NEXT WEEK UNLESS THERE'S A TWO.

CERTAINLY WE HAVE THE REST OF THE BUDGET PROCESS OF WOULDN'T ON THE LONGER RANGE PLAN INCLUDE ANYTHING ARTIFICIAL AS OPTIONS AS WELL.

IF THEY FIT IT.

THAT COULD BE, UM, A DISCUSSION.

I FEEL LIKE IF WE CAN PUT IN A BORDER THAT WE CAN FIND A SOLUTION THAT IS LIVING PLANT MATERIAL, UM, THAT WOULD START TO ADD KIND OF THAT YEAR ROUND, LIKE PALLADIUM OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD START TO ADD THAT YEAR ROUND COLOR THAT EVERYBODY WANTS.

THAT'S A LIVING PLAN MATERIAL.

BUT WE COULD CONSIDER THAT AS AN OPTION AS PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND OPTIONS.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF IT FITS, FITS, IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T.

I, I DON'T KNOW THAT.

SO WHAT YOU'VE ALL BEEN TALKING ABOUT OVER THE LAST FEW MINUTES IS EXACTLY WHAT JANA AND I ARE PROPOSING.

UM, WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO A PAVER REHABILITATION AND BEAUTIFICATION ASSESSMENT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS OUT THERE THAT WE DON'T KNOW, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DO KNOW.

SO THE GOAL WOULD BE IS TO PERFORM A CONDITION ASSESSMENT IN PREPARATION OF THE DESIGN CONSTRUCTION.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE COVERED.

THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT ALREADY HAVE, UH, A CONCRETE SLEEPER SLIDE UNDERNEATH IT, WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE STABILIZATION OF THE BRICK.

THERE ARE AREAS THAT DO NOT, AS I SHOWED YOU IN THE PICTURE BEFORE.

SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT DOING LIGHTING IN THIS AREA, IRRIGATION, UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLANTINGS.

THERE WILL BE UTILITY ADJUSTMENTS, WHETHER IT'S FRANCHISE UTILITIES OR, UH, TOWN UTILITIES, INSTALLATION OF SOME BALLARDS IN THOSE AREAS AS WE CAN INCORPORATE THOSE, UM, WITH SOME OF THE SPECIAL EVENT ITEMS. UM, GFCI, ELECTRICAL OUTLETS HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT A LONG FORM TO ALLOW FOR, UM, SOME OF THE LIGHTING DURING SOME OF THE SEASONAL EVENTS.

UM, OBVIOUSLY ENHANCING THOSE TREE WELLS LIKE WE'VE MENTIONED AND THEN BRINGING THE INTERSECTIONS INTO AADA A COMPLIANCE.

I THINK YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE OUT THERE AND, AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE IN THE JUSTIFICATION.

BUT WE FEEL THAT IT WOULD BE BEST TO GET A CONSULTANT ON BOARD WHO CAN COME AND HELP US DO AN ASSESSMENT OF THE ENTIRE MAA AND ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT.

UM, GO IN AND LOOK AT WHAT THE EXISTING CONDITION IS, DO A SURVEY OF THAT AND START LOOKING AT BREAKING IT DOWN INTO DESIGN PACKAGES THAT COULD THEN BE CONSTRUCTED AND ALSO BRING YOU MULTIPLE DESIGN OPTIONS.

UM, AS YOU MENTIONED, SOME OF THOSE SPECIFICALLY WITH THE SIDEWALK OR WITH THE PLANTINGS.

UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THE TREE WELLS.

SO THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, THIS IS ONE WAY THAT WE ORIGINALLY KIND OF STARTED LOOKING AT IT.

IT'S NO PARTICULAR ORDER.

UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR TEAM STARTED ADDRESSING AND EVALUATING IS HOW DO YOU BREAK IT DOWN INTO SEGMENTS WHERE IT CAN BE BITE-SIZED CHUNKS OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

UM, THE LIGHT BLUE AT THE BOTTOM, WE WOULD PROPOSE TO BE HANDLED AS A PART OF THE ADDISON CIRCLE VISION PLAN.

UH, POSSIBLY AS ONE IDEA.

SO JUST KIND OF AN OVERALL, BUT IT GIVES YOU A GREAT VISUAL TO SHOW YOU HOW MUCH ACTUALLY IS BEING COVERED IN THIS AREA.

AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S A CONVERSATION WITH MAA, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF AREA AND A LOT OF GROUND TO BE COVERED.

UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A $300,000 PROJECT, UM, TO GO AND DO, UH, THIS ASSESSMENT, UM, AND LIKE I SAID, GET THAT CONSULTANT ON BOARD TO ASSIST PARKS AND STREETS WITH THAT OVERALL CONDITION ASSESSMENT.

IS THAT 300,000 JUST FOR THE CONSULTANT FOR THAT? ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S NOT ANY CON ANY OF THE PIPES OR LINES.

THAT'S JUST A CONSULTANT FEE.

YOU THINK THIS PROJECT IS LIKELY GONNA BE $15 MILLION? SURE.

CAN WE NOT GO OUT AND TALK JUDGE? I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I HAD A PARKING LOT AND I HAD TO GET POWER ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FREEWAY FROM THE BUILDING AND THEY WENT UNDER THE PARKING LOT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY BOARD A HOLE OR WHATEVER RAN.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO TEAR UP MY PARKING LOT TO DO IT.

I, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW, WHAT Y'ALL ARE CONSIDERING, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY JUST FROM PLAN.

I I

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SO, SO IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A BIG PROJECT AND IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF WORK TO GET THERE.

TYPICALLY, DESIGN FEES ARE ABOUT 10% OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

AND THIS CONDITION ASSESSMENT WOULD BE A VERY SMALL FRACTION OF THAT.

WE WOULD WORK THROUGH THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT ALSO FOR THEM TO DO SOME SURVEY OF THE AREA TO START LAYING THAT FOUNDATION THAT CAN THEN BE ROLLED INTO THE DESIGN PHASE.

WE DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL THAT CAN DO, UM, WE DON'T HAVE STAFF THAT DOES ANY DESIGN INHOUSE.

HAVE WE REACHED OUT TO M MAA AND THEN HIM REALLY, OR CONSIDERING DOING ALL THIS.

WE, AS WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH M MAA OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF ON THE OTHER, ALL THE OTHER DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD, WE'VE TALKED WITH THEM EXTENSIVELY ABOUT BRICK PAVERS, ABOUT RETRIEVAL, ABOUT THE WHOLE AREA.

UM, AS FAR AS THIS STUDY WE HAVE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS STUDY.

SO WE HAVE NOT TALKED TO THE, UH, MAA ABOUT THE STUDY IN PARTICULAR OR ABOUT THE MAGNITUDE OF, OF WHAT'S COMING.

I THINK HAVING THIS INFORMATION, BEING ABLE TO SAY EXACTLY WHAT THE PLAN IS, WHAT THE PLAN COULD BE, HOW MUCH THE COSTS ARE, IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM TO REALLY HAVE A DETAILED DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT AGREEMENT WE CAN FUNCTION, HOW AND AN AGREEMENT MEANING WHAT THEIR PARTICIPATION MIGHT BE IN.

THIS ASSESSMENT IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH MAI MEAN, EVEN GO, WE TRIED TO LOOK AT SPECIFIC AREAS WHERE WE'VE HAD TO DO SOME WORK OF WHERE DOES OUR PROPERTY LINE IN? AND THERE'S BEGIN MUCH OF THIS ASSESSMENT WILL ACTUALLY LAY THAT OUT AND GIVE US THE DOCUMENTATION AND NUMBERS TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GO SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND GO, OKAY, BLOCK BY BLOCK, YOUR ESTIMATED COST WOULD BE THIS, OURS IS THIS, HERE'S WHERE IT SAYS THAT YOU'VE GOTTA MAINTAIN THIS.

THERE, THERE, THERE HAS TO BE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY DELAYING FOR SECURITY FOR THEIR OWN RESIDENTS AS MUCH AS A DA COMPLIANCE 25TH CENTURY.

IT, IT SEEMS THAT WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON CONSULTANTS AND IT SEEMS TO BE THE FIRST KNEE JERK REACTION RATHER THAN US TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING OUR OWN OURSELF.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN TOWN IN THE HOUSE THAT CAN ATTEMPT THIS BECAUSE IF WE DO THIS 300,000 FOR A CONSULTANT HERE, THEN YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK AND WANT ANOTHER AT LARGE FIGURE FOR A ARCHITECTURAL PLAN.

LIKE WE COULD HIRE A PRETTY DARN GOOD CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE CITY TO PAY FOR FOR THIS KIND OF STUFF.

ACTUALLY, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT USING A CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRM THAT WOULD COME OUT AND DO AN ASSESSMENT OF AN OVERALL SURVEY AND WE WOULD INCORPORATE, UH, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ASPECT OF THAT.

UM, I'M THE ONLY LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER FOR THE TOWN MM-HMM .

UM, AND I DO NOT DESIGN THIS TYPE OF, UH, SYSTEM.

AND SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

I I WOULD REALLY WANT TO TAKE A LOT LONG HARD LOOK AT SPENDING THIS KIND OF MONEY ON CONSULTANTS AND PEOPLE JUST COME IN AND GIVE US IDEAS.

UM, I ALMOST FELL OUTTA MY SEAT LAST WEEK WHEN I HEARD WHAT THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWING COST IS FOR LAY LOCKS PARK.

THAT SEEMED TO ME OUTRAGEOUS.

BUT THAT, THAT PREDATES ME.

SO I WON'T BRING THAT UP ANYMORE.

BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS, WE, I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO DESIGNS ACCORDING TO A DA.

YOU DON'T DO THAT.

YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN LOOK AT THE ARCHITECTURAL, THE STRUCTURAL, WE DON'T HAVE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER.

I MEAN, THIS IS, UM, VERY, I WOULD SAY EVEN THE LARGER CITIES DO NOT HAVE THE STAFF TO DO THESE IN-HOUSE.

UM, YOU'LL SEE ON ANY CAPITAL PROJECT, WE ACTUALLY BUDGET FOR THIS.

WE, WE BUDGET FOR THE DESIGN.

IT'S USUALLY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 10 AND 15% OF THE TOTAL COST.

UM, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT PUBLIC WORKS.

THEY'RE BUSY EVERY DAY, 40 HOURS A WEEK AND DO NOT YEAH.

AND DO NOT HAVE, I MEAN, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE TECHNICAL ABILITY BRINGING SOMEBODY ON.

IT IS HARD TO BRING SOMEBODY ON PROJECT, YOU KNOW, PROJECT BY PROJECT TO DO THAT, WHICH IS WHY ALL THESE CONSULTING FIRMS DO SO WELL IS BECAUSE CITIES USE THEM TO DO THIS TYPE OF THING.

UM, WE, WHEN WE GET CONSULTANT AGREEMENTS, I WILL TELL YOU, WE NI THEM, WE GET THEM, WE QUESTION, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING WHAT WE NEED AT A, YOU KNOW, AT THE RIGHT PRICE.

BUT THERE IS AN INDUSTRY STANDARD OF ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 15% OF THE TOTAL COST OF, OF A PROJECT.

BUT WE JUST, WE DON'T, MOST CITIES JUST DO NOT HAVE THAT ABILITY IN HOUSE.

DO WE DO COMPARED TO BIDS ON THIS? NO.

THAT, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL GO.

THIS IS AN ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU CONNECTED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING.

WE DO OUR, WE DO PROPOSALS.

WE GET PROPOSALS AS WE GO FORWARD WITH ENGINEERING PROJECTS LIKE THIS.

BUT AS MUCH AS WE HAVE SPENT ON THIS SEEMS

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I, I, IT IS JUST RIGHT.

BUT THIS IS LARGE SUMS OF MONEY THAT SOME OF IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME, BUT IT'S NOT JUST A CIVIL ENGINEER.

WE WILL NEED, WE'LL NEED A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER.

WE'LL NEED SOMEBODY WHO IS, UH, VERY FLUENT AND UP TO DATE AND A DA, WE WILL NEED SOMEBODY WITH ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING.

HOW ARE WE GONNA PULL THAT POWER? I MEAN, SO THAT'S THE THING IS IT'S NOT JUST ONE DISCIPLINE WHERE WE CAN, I WILL TELL YOU, AND YOU'LL SEE, WE ACTUALLY, WE HAVE NOW A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ON STAFF ALONG WITH JANA, AND WE'RE USING HIM TO OUR VULNERABILITY WHERE WE CAN, BUT I, I MEAN, YES, MAYBE HI, HIRING ANOTHER PE WOULD BE GREAT, BUT THAT PE STILL CAN'T DO EVERY DISCIPLINE.

I WOULD HAVE TO HIRE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, ELECTRICAL ENGINEER.

I MEAN, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I GET, BUT WE ARE UTILIZING A ARCHITECT, A, A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IN HOUSE WHERE WE CAN ABSOLUTELY.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT LATER, UH, WHEN JANA GOES OVER HER BUDGET AT SOME OF OUR COST SAVINGS WHERE WE CAN ABSOLUTELY.

WE DO WHAT WE CAN IN INHOUSE, I HEAR THIS ARGUMENT ALL THE TIME ABOUT WE ALWAYS USE CONSULTANTS.

IT'S OUR KNEEJERK REACTION.

WHENEVER YOU SAY CONSULTANT, YOU DON'T MEAN ONE BODY FOR 300,000.

YOU MEAN IT'S A FIRM THAT HAS A HUNDRED BODIES THAT DO A HUNDRED DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE COULD HIRE ALL OF 'EM, BUT WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE OUR BUDGET BY $50 MILLION TO PAY ALL OF 'EM.

IT'S A MULTIDISCIPLINE FIRM.

SO, SO THAT, SO MAYBE UNDERSTANDING MORE OF WHAT, AND THIS IS AN ESTIMATE, RIGHT? THIS IS A BUDGET ESTIMATE.

UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE DELIVERABLES ARE FROM SOMETHING LIKE THIS MAKES A LITTLE MORE SENSE VERSUS THIS IS JUST A CONSULTANT THAT RUNS AROUND WITH A LAPTOP AND DOES IT TAKES A COUPLE PICTURES.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST NOT ONE OF THOSE THAT'S ABSOLUTELY YOU.

I WOULD SAY A MINIMUM OF FIVE PROBABLY.

SURE.

THAT WOULD WORK ON THIS PROJECT.

SO MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION WOULD BE IS LIKE, LIKE WITH LEGAL, YOU PUT ON A RETAINER SO THEY'RE AT YOUR DISCRETION AT A VALUE VERSUS A LA CAR.

SHOULD WE BE BOOKING AT DOING A RETAINER OR DO, DO AGENCIES DON'T DO RETAINERS? SO WE ACTUALLY, WE DO A BID FOR ENGINEERING OR A RP FOR, UM, ENGINEERING SERVICES EVERY, SO WE HAVEN'T DONE ONE IN SEVEN YEARS.

I'LL BE BRINGING YOU ONE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR SO AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, UM, TO TAKE FORWARD AND GET CONSULTANTS ON BOARD, UM, THAT ACTUALLY HAVE DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES, WHETHER IT'S STORM, STORMWATER, WATER WASTEWATER, STREET DRAINAGE.

UM, AND SO WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT FORWARD TO YOU.

SO CONSULTANT ENGINEERING HAS TO GO THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL.

AND SO THROUGH THAT PROCESS THEN WE WILL HAVE A LIST OF FOLKS.

AND WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE WOULD TAKE THAT OVERALL LIST AND EVALUATE DOES THIS FIRM HAVE THE MULTI-DISCIPLINE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE NEED TO PERFORM THIS TASK? THEY WOULD THEN PER SUBMIT AN INDIVIDUAL PROPOSAL TO US.

WE WOULD REVIEW THAT AND THEN WE WOULD TALK AND BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THE SCOPE.

THE GOAL IS TO GET THE SCOPE AS NAILED DOWN AS SPECIFIC AS POSSIBLE SO THAT THE FEE MATCHES THE SCOPE.

BUT IT GIVES US THE ABILITY, YOU KNOW, IF LET'S SAY CELESTIAL WENT DOWN, WELL ONE ENGINEERING FIRM MAY NOT FOCUS IN ON, YOU KNOW, THE UTILITY SIDE, THE WAY THIS ONE DOES.

WELL, THEY'VE ALREADY EMBEDDED, WE HAVE CONTRACTS WITH THEM.

WE CAN GO TO THAT ENGINEERING FIRM THAT SPECIALIZE IN THIS.

IT'S, IT'S BEEN SEVEN YEARS SINCE WE, WE'VE NEVER HAD A FULL BLOWN BUDGETING DISCUSSION ABOUT A RETAINER.

WE'RE A FULL BLOWN AGENCY WHO CAN COVER ALL SIX 17 ASSETS.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, AN INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS A CONTRACT CURRENTLY THAT DOES OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW FOR US.

SO THAT IS A SIMILAR TYPE SCENARIO.

WE ALSO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THAT DOES A LOT OF OUR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING.

SO THIS CURRENTLY EXISTS, THERE'S NOT ONE CURRENTLY THAT WOULD BE MULTIFACETED THAT DOES ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE SAY COME ON AND BE HERE SIDE BY SIDE WITH US THROUGH EVERY STEP OF EVERY PROJECT BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT PROJECT FROM THE MAJORITY OF THE ROADWAY PROJECTS THAT WE DO.

THIS, THIS IS A MORE SPECIFIC NICHE, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THIS PROJECT.

TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL AREA, GET THE EXISTING CONDITION USING NOT ONLY OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, THE FIELD WALK THAT IT WOULD TAKE AND THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO INTERACT WITH.

HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THREE HUNDREDS? DID THAT NUMBER JUST COME OUT OF THE AIR OR IS THERE NO, WE ACTUALLY DID SOME PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENTS OF WHAT THE OVERALL PROJECT WE EXPECTED TO COST BASED ON SOME OF THE NUMBERS.

AND AS DAVID MENTIONED, IT LOOKED TO BE ABOUT 15 MILLION TO DO THE ENTIRE AREA.

UM, WE ESTIMATED THAT 10 TO 15% FOR DESIGN AND WE TOOK A PORTION OF THAT FOR AN OVERALL ASSESSMENT.

THE GOAL WITH THE ASSESSMENT WOULD BE TO TRY TO SET OURSELVES UP FOR SUCCESS WITH THE DESIGN, ASKING THEM

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AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO, UM, EVALUATE GETTING SOME SURVEY WORK DONE AT THAT TIME SO WE CAN START DETERMINING, UM, BOUNDARY, WHETHER IT'S MAA OR THE TOWN.

AND SO IT WAS BASED ON A ACTUAL VERY DETAILED SPREADSHEET THAT OUR TEAM PERFORMED.

WELL, 10% OF 15 MILLION.

THAT WOULD BE FOR THE DESIGN, SIR.

THIS IS JUST FOR AN ASSESSMENT TO HAVE THEM COME IN AND WE'RE ASKING THEM WITH THE ASSESSMENT TO LOOK AT DOING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEN COULD ROLL INTO THE DESIGN THAT WOULD SAVE US ON THE OVERALL DESIGN COST.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO GO DIRECTLY INTO DESIGN.

WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS PLUS ANOTHER MILLION AND HALF.

IT WOULD ROLL INTO THAT.

IT WOULD BE IT, THIS WILL BE UPFRONT WORK THAT THEY WOULD USE TO, TO START THE DESIGN.

SO IS IT 15 MILLION PLUS A MILLION AND A HALF OR IS A MILLION AND A HALF OF THE 15? NO, IT WOULD BE, IT IS APPROXIMATE.

THESE ARE ALL APPROXIMATE NUMBERS BASED ON CONSTRUCTION COSTS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE AREA AND THE TYPE OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE PERFORMED.

IT'D BE APPROXIMATELY 15 MILLION IN CONSTRUCTION PLUS YOUR DESIGN ASSOCIATED WITH THAT 16 AND THAT THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.

AND THOSE ARE ESTIMATES AT THIS TIME UNTIL WE PERFORM AN ASSESSMENT TO FIND OUT, WE'RE HOPING IN SOME OF THESE AREAS, AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S ALREADY A CONCRETE SLEEPER SLAB IN SOME OF THE AREAS, WHICH HELPS WITH THE STABILIZATION AND OBVIOUSLY PROLONGS THE LONGEVITY OF THE BRICK PAPERS AND THIS STARTING THE LIFE, THE DIRT, WHAT'D YOU SAY? STARTING THE LIFE OF DIRT.

SO WHY DID WE, WHY DID WE HIRE A LANDSCAPE A ARCHITECT? WHEN WE SAY WHY DID WE, WHY DID WE, YEAH, SO WE HAVE A, SO HANG ON NOW I JUST WANT TO YOU CAN ANSWER.

I MEAN, YOU GO AHEAD.

SO, UH, ACTUALLY MENTION IT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SEE, UH, JAN'S BUDGET PRESENTATION X WEEK WHEN PRESENT, SHE ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHTS A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS WE HAVE IN THE NEXT YEAR AND CURRENTLY ONGOING WHERE WE'VE TAKEN DESIGN COSTS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO OUT FOR AND HAVE DONE THEM IN-HOUSE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HIRED ONE.

SO WHENEVER WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS, WHENEVER WE HAVE ENOUGH VOLUME OF SOMETHING, THEN WE'LL INSOURCE IT.

WE HAVE ENOUGH VOLUME OF OUR PARTICULAR EXPERTISE, BOTH INSOURCE IT LIKE WE DID THE LASTING AT ARCHITECT.

IF WE HAVE MORE TYPES OF EXPERTISE THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY SUBBING OUT, THEN WE WOULD HIRE A PHYSICIAN INTERNAL.

WE DID THAT WITH A GIS PERSON ON THE AIRPORT TWO LAST YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THAT, RIGHT? SO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE WERE HAVING WITH SOME OF THE PLANNING PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE SEEING, BECAUSE UM, EVERYTHING IN MADISON WAS PLANTED AT THE SAME TIME.

AND SO WE GOT THAT ROBUST SHAKE CANOPY OVER THOSE FULL SUN LOVING PLANTS ALL HAPPENING ABOUT THE SAME TIME.

AND WE WERE NEEDING TO COME IN AND REFURBISH THOSE AREAS AND THEY'RE SMALL PROJECTS AND WE WERE HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING SOMEBODY TO DO DESIGN ON THE SMALLER PROJECTS AND EVEN IMPLEMENTATION ON SMALLER PROJECTS.

AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE HIRED A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO HELP WITH SOME OF OUR OTHER TASKS, WHICH IS CODE COMPLIANCE.

SO LIKE HIS ONLY JOB ISN'T, UM, DESIGN, HE ALSO WORKS ON CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION OF OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS PLAN REVIEW.

AND THEN ON THE SMALL PROJECTS, UM, WE WILL DO DESIGN IN-HOUSE IS SOMETHING NEW THAT WE'VE STARTED.

I THINK WE'VE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL AT IT.

UM, SO THAT'S BEEN ONE OF OUR STRATEGIES.

WE ALSO FORMED A PLANNING CREW TO COME IN AND START KNOCKING OUT SOME OF THE PLANNING PROJECTS BECAUSE WE HAD CONTRACTORS THAT COULDN'T, UM, OUR PROJECTS WERE TOO SMALL FOR THEM TO BE INTERESTED IN.

AND SO WE KIND OF ADJUSTED OURSELVES, BUT IT WASN'T SO MUCH BECAUSE WE FINALLY HAD A LARGE VOLUME.

WE STARTED DOING THE PROJECTS THAT WE COULDN'T GET PEOPLE TO DO FOR US, IS WHAT WE WERE DOING.

AREN'T YOU A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT? I AM A LICENSED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.

UM, BUT AS ASHLEY SPOKE, WE ALL HAVE ABOUT 50 HOURS OF OUR WEEK THAT IS ACCOUNTED FOR AND WE CAN SOLVE AND DO DESIGN PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE TO CUT OUT SOMETHING $300,000.

WE CAN CUT THAT OUT.

, I THINK IT WOULD BE UP FOR A BO FOR A BONUS.

I'M JUST SAYING ROGER LANDSCAPING, IT'S YES.

ENGINEERING, GEO, ANYTHING.

SO MY QUESTION FOR OFF, I WON'T TAKE AS LONG AS WE USE A SUBCONTRACTOR TO DO THE, THE BEAUTIFICATION OF RETAINING WALLS ON MIDWAY WITH THAT CIA, UM, ACTUALLY DEF AN EXAMPLE THIRD PARTY THAT CAME IN AND DID THAT BRICK WORK.

UM, SO THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR.

TIO HIRED THE SUBCONTRACTOR TO DO THAT WORK.

IT WAS NOT A DIRECT CONTRACTOR WITH THE TOWN.

SO SOME NONE OF OUR STAFF.

SO THERE'S SOME BUCKLING RIGHT NOW, RIGHT AT ALL ALONG THAT WALL, RIGHT? BY .

SO AS, AS I JUST HAVE A NOTICED, I'M JUST FIX IT UP.

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SO THAT'S NOT US.

WE DON'T GO AND REPAIR THAT.

WE CALL SIO, THEY CALL THEIR STUFF AND THEN THEY HAVE TO COME OUT AND REPAIR THOSE CRACKS.

SO ABSOLUTELY, THE GREAT THING ABOUT THAT PROJECT IS WE ARE GONNA BE WALKING A PUNCH LIST, UH, AND DOING A PUNCH LIST OF THAT PROJECT.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, IS WE HAVE, UM, A WARRANTY WITH THAT PROJECT.

SO WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE AREAS AND WALKING IN.

ANY CONCERNS IF YOU'VE SEEN ONES PARTICULAR POLICE BRING THEM TO MY ATTENTION.

I'M JUST, WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT WASN'T OUR PEOPLE WHO DID IT.

CAN I ASK A FINAL QUESTION? MY FINAL QUESTION ON THIS ONE MAYBE IS ON THIS, THIS IS JUST A, UM, AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THIS WOULD BE.

SO WHEN IT COMES UP FOR BUDGET, DO WE EXPECT MORE DETAIL ON THIS, UH, TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IN UNDERNEATH THAT $300,000? OR ARE WE GONNA GET MORE DETAIL LATER ON? OR IS IT JUST GONNA BE THIS AMOUNT OF DETAIL? I, I KNOW BRIAN WELL, FOR THE BUD, FOR THE BUDGET, I MEAN, YEAH, WE'LL WE CAN, WE'LL GO BACK AND WE'LL GIVE YOU, WE WE HEARD SOME QUESTIONS.

WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME MORE ANSWERS IN WRITING TO THAT.

UM, NOW YOU'RE GONNA APPROVE, SAY, SAY YOU APPROVE THIS, YOU'RE GONNA APPROVE A BUDGET, THEN YOU'RE GONNA ACTUALLY APPROVE VIA CONTRACT.

WHEN THAT COMES FORWARD, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF DETAIL, RIGHT? BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY COME BACK AND TRY TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ANSWERED, THAT WERE ASKED AND PUT THOSE IN WRITING AND GET SOME MORE DETAIL FOR THE BUDGET.

IT'S GOOD FOR ALL OF US TO KNOW ON THESE NUMBERS.

IT'S NOT JUST A NUMBER, IT'S SIGN OFF ON IT.

WE, WE'LL GET MORE INFORMATION, WE CAN GET MORE IT, ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS WE WANT FOR SURE.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING YOU HAVE.

READY? MOVING ON.

ALRIGHTY.

SO NEXT PROJECT IS RESIDENTIAL STREET REHABILITATION.

UM, WE CURRENTLY LOOK AT OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND MAKE FIELD VERIFICATIONS OF AREAS THROUGHOUT TOWN.

UM, I MENTIONED THIS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE NORTH SIDE OF QUO.

THERE ARE AREAS WHERE A CONCRETE PANEL REPLACEMENT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND I WANT TO DESCRIBE THAT IS IN SECTIONS.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A PANEL, IT IS A, A PARTICULAR AREA, UM, FOAM INJECTION, WHICH ACTUALLY CAN BE INJECTED UNDER THE CONCRETE.

SO WITH CONCRETE HAS SETTLED, IT PROVIDES, UM, A SURFACE THAT IS MORE FLAT AGAIN.

UM, AND THEN CRACK CEILING, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THAT'S THAT FLAG STUFF THAT GOES IN BETWEEN AND IT HELPS FILL THE CRACKS.

UM, NET PANEL REPLACEMENT IS DEFINITELY A MORE COST EFFECTIVE WAY IN AREAS INSTEAD OF REPLACING THE ENTIRE ROADWAY, WE CAN GO IN AND DO SPOT LOCATIONS.

UM, WE TALKED, SO SAVES US MONEY.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT DIFFERENT REHABILITATION METHODS AS UM, THE INDUSTRY CHANGES AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT COME UP.

UM, OUR PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX HAS COLLECTED A WIDE RANGE OF CONDITIONS.

UM, AND SO THAT ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM HELPS GIVE US NOT ONLY THAT PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX, BUT THE REMAINING USEFUL LIFE.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE OUR MAINTENANCE RECORDS.

SO YOU CAN SEE FOR SOME OF THESE MAPS, UM, OUR CURRENT PLAN THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING TO YOU HERE IN JUST A MONTH IS TO MOVE OVER TO THAT PINK AREA, WHICH IS THE OAKS NORTH.

THAT'LL BE THE FIRST AREA OF WHICH WE'RE GONNA BE EVALUATING.

AND THEN WE WOULD PLAN TO MOVE OVER TO THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN AND TACKLE EITHER THE BLUE OR THE GREEN AREA.

AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S BROKEN INTO COLORS WHERE WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH THROUGHOUT THE TOWN AND ASSESS THIS BECAUSE THE PLAN IS TO DO THIS OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, STARTING WITH $150,000.

THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT BUDGET TO DO FOR THIS YEAR.

WE'LL DO $150,000 NEXT YEAR, INCREASE THAT BY 25,000 ANNUALLY.

SO IF WE DON'T FINISH EVERYTHING IN OAKS NORTH THIS YEAR, IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, THEN WE'LL START FINISHING THAT IN FY 26.

AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED, MOVE ACROSS TOWN TO THE LIST.

UNLESS WILL WE HAVE ANYTHING, WILL WE HAVE A MAP COME TO US OR ANYTHING THAT WILL TELL US THE, THE AREAS IN OAKS NORTH, LIKE WITH A LITTLE RED DOCK OR SOMETHING WHERE THERE'S A SPOT THAT NEEDS ABSOLUTELY TO BE FIXED OR KIND OF A RED DO OR A RED LINE VERSION OF THIS MAP? SURE.

SO WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IS WE'VE ALREADY WALKED THAT WITH OUR CONTRACTOR AND THEN WE'LL BE BUCK, I MENTIONED BRINGING FORWARD THAT OVERALL PROJECT SO THEY'LL KNOW THE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS THEY'RE GONNA MAKE THE REPAIRS ON, AND WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT FORWARD AND GIVING YOU UPDATES THROUGHOUT THE BRI REPORTS.

AND I SO TAKE IT A NORTH, FOR EXAMPLE, AN HOA, SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER.

SO ON THIS ONE, WE'LL, WHEN WE HAVE THE ACTUAL PLAN, WE GO OUT THERE, WE'LL GET IN TOUCH WITH THE HOA, TELL 'EM HERE'S EXACTLY WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

OUR PROJECT MANAGER GOES TALK, AND THAT'LL HAPPEN ALL ACROSS TOWN WITH HOA, IT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO HAVE A POINT OF CONTACT, BUT ANYWHERE THROUGH TOWN, WE'LL GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHOW 'EM EXACTLY WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN BEFORE WE GO ON THE ROAD.

BUT WE WOULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRS ON THOSE ROADS.

THE HOA WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE, RIGHT? IHOA JUST FOR COMMUNICATION PURPOSES.

JUST FOR COMMUNICATION.

IF IT'S A PUBLIC STREET, IF IT'S PUBLIC.

I LIVE ON A PRIVATE STREET.

I LIKE GET YOUR CHECKBOOK OUT.

SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE YOU'VE DONE THIS ANALYSIS INTERNALLY INSTEAD OF USING A CONTRACTOR.

UM, THE ANALYSIS WAS DONE INTERNALLY.

UM, STAFF AND PLANNING THAT OUT IN KIND OF A PROGRAMMATIC WAY.

USING OUR,

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SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT NEIGHBORHOODS SPECIFIC.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE'LL BE HIRING A CONTRACTOR SHIP PERFORMING.

WE HAVE SOME OF THIS SKILL IN INTERNALLY THAT CAN DO THIS SKILL AND THE, UH, BANDWIDTH FORM.

ALRIGHT.

I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO JAN.

JANA TWELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND CREATION.

I'M GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU THAT PARKS AND RECREATION, UM, CIPA, MY TIME REQUEST.

UM, THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE REQUEST THAT I'M BRINGING BEFORE YOU.

WELL, I JUST SAID A HIGH LEVEL IS TO TALK ABOUT WAY HIGH SIGNAGE MASTER PLAN IMPLEMENTATION ABOUT THAT, ADDING AMENITIES WITH THE COTTON BELT TRAIL, ADDING IMPROVEMENTS AT BOSS PARK, AND THEN IMPROVEMENTS AT THE CELESTIAL PARK ENTRANCE AND LIGHTING.

UM, THE WAYFINDING SIGNAGE MASTER PLAN IS UNDERWAY.

THE FUNDS ALLOCATED FOR A CONSULTANT TO, UM, DESIGN THAT PROJECT WITH THIS FISCAL YEAR.

UM, WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS TO HAVE THIS PROJECT WRAPPED UP BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, AND WE'D LIKE TO MOVE INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION STAGE.

IF YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S PHOTOS OF OUR PROGRESS CONCEPTS THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM KIND OF A WELCOME SIGN TO DIRECTIONAL SIGNS TO PEDESTRIAN DIRECTIONAL SIGNS AND PARKING SIGNS.

UM, THE PLAN WILL ALSO INCLUDE, UM, SIGNAGE FOR OUR CAMPUS AT THE NEWTOWN HALL FACILITY IN THE THEATER, UM, WILL BE INCLUDED IN ALL OF THAT.

UM, ALTHOUGH WE ARE IN A PLANNING PROCESS, WE DID ASK OUR CONSULTANT TO KIND OF TAKE A PAUSE AND GO TO THE KIND OF STEP BACK INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS AND HELP US DEVELOP SOME BUDGET NUMBERS.

AND SO THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED OFF OF RECENT PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE METROPLEX FOR WAY WAY FINDING SIGNAGE.

UM, AND THEY'RE ESTIMATING THAT WE WOULD DO THIS OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD, UM, WHERE NEXT YEAR WE WOULD IMPLEMENT ABOUT $789,000 IN SIGNAGE.

AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK IN THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR AND COMPLETE THE PROJECT, UM, FOR $804,000.

AND THAT'S PLACING THE SIGNAGE, THAT'S THE SIGNAGE BEING THERE AND DONE, NOT JUST THE PLANNING OF IT.

IT'S, IT'S FABRICATE, IT'S DESIGNING THE FOOTINGS OF THE SIGNAGE, UM, IDENTIFYING ANY UTILITIES THAT ARE IN THE WAY THAT THEY NEED TO WORK AROUND.

BECAUSE SOMETIMES IF YOU HAVE UTILITIES, YOU HAVE SPECIAL FOOTING DESIGNS AND THEN IT IS FABRICATING THE SIGNAGE AND PUTTING IT IN PLACE.

SO IT'LL BE A FINISHED PROJECT.

THE NEXT PROJECT IS THE CL BELT TRAIL AND MAYBE ENHANCEMENT.

THE CL BELT TRAIL THROUGH ADDISON IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

UM, THE MAJORITY OF IT HAS BEEN FUNDED.

THERE'S ONE LAST PIECE THAT Y'ALL APPROVED.

UM, AND A RESOLUTION RECENTLY TO GO FOR.

UM, TA'S SET ASIDE FUNDING FROM TDOT IF SUCCESSFUL.

THE ENTIRE TRAIL CORRIDOR THROUGH ADDISON WILL BE COMPLETELY FUNDED WITH GRANT DOLLARS.

UM, HOWEVER, GRANT DOLLARS HAVE VERY STRICT LIMITATIONS ON WHAT THEY'LL PAY FOR, AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S CONNECTIVITY AND MOBILITY.

SO IT'S PAYING FOR A CONCRETE TRAIL ON A FLAT SURFACE.

IT'S NOT PAYING FOR SIGNAGE, LANDSCAPING, PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES AND LIGHTING.

AND SO WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE COME BACK, UM, AND WE ADD THOSE THINGS TO THE TRAIL SO THAT WHEN YOU COME THROUGH ADDISON, YOU KNOW YOU'RE IN ADDISON.

IT'S FITTING THE STANDARD OF THE DESIGN OF THE REST OF OUR PARKS AND OUR AMENITIES IN ADDISON.

UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT, UM, UPFRONT WE DO THE DESIGN WORK, WHICH IS $250,000 AND WE START WITH THE CONSTRUCTION AND THEN WE WOULD COMPLETE THAT CONSTRUCTION FY 27 AT IN ORDER TO START THE DESIGN WORK.

WE, THAT WOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT NEXT NUMBER FOR FY 27, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A TOTAL CALL PROJECT COST IN THE BALLPARK OF LIKE $1.5 MILLION TO COME BACK AND ADD THE AMENITIES, UM, THROUGHOUT THE ADDISON CORRIDOR.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT FIRST ONE? LET'S TALK ABOUT THE COTTONDALE FOR JUST A MINUTE, PLEASE.

I I HAVE PERSONALLY WALKED THAT TRAIL THE, THE COMPLETE LENGTH FOUR TIMES NOW.

YOU SAY IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION? I I HAVEN'T SEEN A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND YET.

UM, ACTUALLY TODAY I WAS REVIEWING WHERE THEY, UM, SET THE GRADE.

SO THEY WENT IN NOT WITH SHOVELS BUT WITH CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT AND STARTED LOWERING THE GRADE AROUND THE FESTIVAL A LOT, UM, TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND FORM CONCRETE.

WILL, WILL THIS BE COMING BACK TO US AT ALL OR IS THIS SAID AND DONE? AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS GONNA HAPPEN? THIS IS, UM, WAS APPROVED, HAS BEEN APPROVED AND IS MOVING FORWARD.

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AND EVERY TIME I WALK THAT SECTION, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT COME COME TO MY MIND AND IT'S A VERY CONFUSING SECTION TO EVEN LOOK AT BLUEPRINTS AND SEE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

BUT WITH THEM COMING OVER AND GETTING ON, GETTING ON OUR ROAD RATHER THAN GOING DOWN, IS IT TRUE THAT THEY'RE GONNA TEAR UP OUR BEAUTIFUL WALKING TRAIL THAT WE ALREADY HAVE GOING DOWN ARAPAHOE ROAD TOWARDS THE BRIDGE TO, TO JUST PLACE ANOTHER ONE IN THERE? SO THE TRAIL THAT'S CURRENTLY BUILT ON ARAPAHOE IS NOT 10 FEET WIDE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TWO FEET OF CLEARANCE ON EITHER SIDE, WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR TRAIL.

THIS IS A REGIONAL TRAIL, SO IT HAS TO MEET ASH TO SAFETY REQUIREMENTS.

UM, AND THEN IT CANNOT HAVE A CURVED RADIUS WITHIN A CERTAIN RADIUS BASED ON THE DESIGN SPEED.

AND SO YES, THE SEGMENT OF TRAIL AND ARAPAHOE EXCEEDS THOSE LIMITATIONS.

UM, SO IT'S BEING REMOVED AND A NEW TRAIL IS BEING BUILT IN PLACE THAT WOULD MEET THOSE ASH TO SAFETY REQUIREMENTS.

THAT CERTAINLY SEEMS LIKE A HUGE WASTE TO ME.

AND THAT WAS NOT MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN WE VOTED ON THAT, UH, TO BE GOING DOWN THROUGH THERE WITH THAT, WITH THAT SECTION.

THE NEW FENCE THAT WE HAVE IN OVER ON THE WINDWOOD, THE WHITE ROCK TRAIL, THEY EXTENDED THAT, THE WIDTH OF THAT TRAIL BY JUST PUTTING ANOTHER POUR OF CONCRETE TO EXTEND THE WIDTH.

CAN WE NOT DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S CURVED.

YOU WOULD END UP WITH LITTLE SEGMENTS OF CONCRETE WHERE THE RADIUS HITS ON ALL SIDES AND THAT'S A POINT FOR CONCRETE TO FAIL AND CRACK AND BECOME A SAFETY HAZARD.

WELL, THE LAST TIME WE PUT IN A CURVED SIDEWALK, WE PUT IN A CURVED SIDEWALK BECAUSE OF AESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND EVERYONE LIKED THE CURVED LOOK AND NOW WE'RE COMING IN TO TEAR ONE UP.

THAT'S PERFECTLY GOOD.

THAT, THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.

I'M SORRY, DID WE APPROVE, UM, THE FUNDING FOR THE DESIGN? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE, WE WERE APPROVING.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

NOT THE, NOT THE ACTUAL DID DID WE ACTUALLY COTTON BELT? YES MA'AM.

WE'VE BROUGHT SEVERAL RESOLUTIONS BEFORE COUNCIL.

WELL, AND THERE'S PROBABLY SOME HISTORY ON THE PROJECT THAT MAYBE ASHLEY NEEDS TO SPEAK TO BECAUSE THIS PROJECT WAS ALIVE BEFORE I STARTED WORKING HERE.

UM, BUT THE RESOLUTIONS THAT I HAD BROUGHT FORWARD OR MY TEAM HAS BROUGHT FORWARD, UM, WERE THREE DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS.

ONE OF 'EM WAS FOR FUNDING OR SUPPORTING THE FUNDING APPLICATION FOR THE BRIDGE, WHICH WOULD CROSS OVER MIDWAY.

THE OTHER APPLICATION WAS FOR THE PHASE ONE PING SECTION, WHICH IS FROM THE TOLLWAY TO THAT BRIDGE.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE, WHICH IS THE MOST RECENT ONE THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU IS FROM THE BRIDGE GOING WEST TO THE COUNTY.

SO YEAH, HERE'S MY CONFUSION IS, UM, SOME OF THAT LAND WHERE THE TRAIL IS ON IS OUR LAND, RIGHT? AND THEN SOME OF IT IS PROBABLY, UH, UH, EASEMENT FOR, FOR DAR DARK.

IS THAT, IS THAT ACCURATE? THE MAJORITY, MAJORITY OF IT'S DARK FROM THE MAJORITY IS, IS DARK.

UM, SO AND THEN, AND THEN THE COTTON BELT TRAIL IS GOOD.

WE IN AND OUT OF THOSE WHO OWNS THOSE PROPERTIES? SO HAVE WE, I DON'T, I'VE SEEN SOME, SOME SKETCHES AND AND PLANS THAT YOU ALL SHARED.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT UM, HAVE WE APPROVED OR WILL WE GET A CHANCE TO APPROVE THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF EACH, EACH ONE OF THESE PHASE? I WAS THINKING WE APPROVED SOME RESOLUTION FOR FUNDING OF A, A DESIGN.

UM, I RATHER THAN ACTUALLY SEEING THE DESIGN AND SAYING HEY, THAT THAT'S, UM, SO I MEAN THE DESIGN NECESSARILY IS JUST, I MEAN WE COULD SHOW WHERE THE LOCATION AND EVERYTHING IS, BUT THE TRAIL ITSELF HAS BEEN LISTED IN THE DART SILVER LINE DESIGN FROM DAY ONE.

IT WAS BECAUSE WHEN THEY DID IT, BECAUSE IT IS IN THE DART RIGHT OF WAY, IT HAD TO GO THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

IT HAD TO GET APPROVED AT THE SAME TIME AS THE DART RAIL WAS APPROVED.

SO IT'S THE DART TRAIL HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE.

FUNDING MECHANISMS HAVE CHANGED SEVERAL TIMES, BUT, SO, BUT JUST, JUST RIGHT NOW, SO I GUESS WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS WE ARE, WE ARE NOT GONNA BE, CITY COUNCIL'S NOT GONNA BE PUT IN A POSITION TO LOOK AT A DESIGN AND APPROVE IT OR, OR, UM, A PLACEMENT.

WELL, NOT ANY PLACE.

I MEAN THIS IS NOT TRYING UNDERSTAND YEAH.

IT'S NOT A PROJECT THAT WE MANAGE.

SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE SAME AS A REGULAR PROJECT.

AND IT'S ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE DOCK.

IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR THEM TO RUN THEIR TRAIL ALONG THE RAIL JUST LIKE IT IS FARTHER EAST RATHER THAN DEMOLISH AND REDO LEAVE OUR SUITE, OUR, OUR BEAUTIFUL CURVY TRAIL FOR PEDESTRIANS TO WALK AND LET THEM PUT THEIR BICYCLE TRAIL DOWN THE TRACKS ON THEIR EASEMENT.

AT THE DART LEVEL.

BUT MY POINT IS THAT THAT BEAUTIFUL CURVY SIDEWALK IS THAN ADDS,

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IT WOULD BE A MORE OF A STRAIGHT LINE FOR THEM.

SO THE TRAILS OF SHARED USE PATH THAT'S FOR RUNNERS, WALKERS AND CYCLISTS.

IT'S NOT JUST FOR CYCLISTS, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT THE, THE NICE SQUIGGLY LITTLE ONE THAT WE'RE WALKING ON TO GET DOWN THERE, WHAT, WHAT HURTS TO HAVE TWO, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO, WHEN THEY COME ACROSS ADDISON ROAD, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INTENTIONALLY DIVERT TO DESTROY THAT TRAIL THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THERE, RATHER THAN TAKE A STRAIGHT LINE DOWN THE RAIL.

IT MAKES NO SENSE FOR US TO TEAR UP SOMETHING.

IT'S PERFECTLY GOOD WHEN THEY WOULD BE EASIER FOR THEM JUST TO PUT A NEW TRAIL ALONG THEIR RAILS ON THEIR EASEMENT.

ANYTHING THAT'S IN ADDISON, WE SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN.

WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK.

BUT I BELIEVE IT HAD TO DO WITH THE CROSSING, BUT I CAN DOUBLE CHECK.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE THAT DESIGN WAS DONE, BUT WE IF IT'S GONNA TAKE A A, AN ITEM, AGENDA ITEM TO TRY TO BRING THIS UP AND STOP THAT.

I'M GONNA DO THAT.

THAT THAT JUST ABSOLUTELY MAKES NO SENSE FOR US TO TEAR UP OUR SIDEWALKS IN ADDISON ON OUR PROPERTY FOR A DARK TRAIL THAT SHOULD BE ON THEIR EASEMENT.

AND THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM ON THEIR EASEMENT OVER THERE.

AND IT IS, IT IS NOT A DARK TRAIL, IS IT? IT'S NORTH CENTRAL WHO OWNS IT? WHATEVER DRILL.

IT'S A PARTNERSHIP.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT TO REALLY SPEAK ON IT.

I SUGGEST EVERYONE GO WALK.

I, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW MORE.

I'VE WALKED A PORTION OF IT, NOT THE WHOLE THING, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW MORE WHERE EXACTLY IT'S GOING.

UM, YOU KNOW, ARE WE LOSING TREES IN THAT AREA SO WE CAN HAVE, BECAUSE I LOVE THE JOIN THE TREES ARE GOING IN BETWEEN THE ZIGZAG OF THAT CURB, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA LOSE THE TREES.

SO NO, WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY RELOCATING LIGHT POLES TO SAVE TREES.

SO THE LIGHT POLES ARE THERE, ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED AND THEY'RE GONNA BE STORED AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A TRAIL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TREES.

SO WE DO NOT IMPACT ANY TREES.

IT WAS EITHER IMPACT LIGHT POLES OR TREES AND WE MADE A DECISION TO PROTECT THE TREES.

THAT'S GREAT.

AND THAT WE COULD ALWAYS REPLACE THE LIGHT POLE.

AND SEVERAL YEARS AGO THERE WAS MANY ITERATIONS, BUT I, AND AGAIN, I'LL GO BACK AND WE'LL GET THE INFORMATION.

I BELIEVE THE REASON THAT THE ALIGNMENT IS THE WAY IT IS AND SO IT COULD HAVE A SIGNAL LIGHT CROSSING TO GET PEDESTRIANS ACROSS THE SHREW BECAUSE IT WAS TOO CLOSE TO THAT INTERSECTION AND THE RAIL TO HAVE ANY SORT OF LIKE HAWK SYSTEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDISON GETTING ACROSS ADDISON ROAD? YES.

AND SO, BUT AGAIN, THAT WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

WE'LL GO BACK AND GET THAT INFORMATION AND FOLLOW UP.

WELL THE PLAN SHOWED IT CROSSING NORTH OF THE TRACKS ON ADDISON ROAD, NOT AT ARAPAHOE.

WE'LL GO BACK AND GET THE INFORMATION AND IN THAT CASE, A STRAIGHT SHOT IS MUCH BETTER THAN DEMOLITION AND REDOING AND MESSING WITH ALL THAT STUFF.

I THINK WHAT RANDY IS SAYING OR SOME UPDATE OR, I MEAN I JUST WANT, WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE A WORK SESSION.

WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE ASK.

THIS PROJECT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH DAR IT'S BEEN DESIGNED YEARS AGO.

IT'S UNDER, I MEAN THE REALITY IS WE CAN HAVE ALL THE CONVERSATIONS, WE CAN LOOK INTO MORE, WE CAN GET ANSWERS FOR YOU.

WE CAN DO EVERYTHING.

THIS IS NOT A PROJECT THAT'S STILL IN A DESIGN PHASE TO MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES.

SO YEAH.

HERE, OKAY, SO HERE'S A, HERE'S A QUESTION I WILL HAVE WHEN WE, WHEN WE DO THIS IS IS, SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS, UM, BRIDGE OVER MIDWEST PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE AND, AND SO WHAT, I MEAN THAT'S A REALLY BIG PIECE AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND IS ARE THE ENCORE UTILITY DISTRIBUTION LINES ALL, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THEY'RE C**K SO FORTH, THOSE CAN REMAIN, THESE ARE THOSE LINES ARE BEING UNDERGROUNDED? THEY ARE.

WE WERE RANKED NUMBER ONE.

YEAH, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S LIKE REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW, BUT SHOULDN'T WE, IT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW.

SHOULDN'T WE KNOW WHAT THAT BRIDGE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE TO SEE IF IT'S GONNA BE AESTHETICALLY BRIDGE? THE BRIDGE IS GONNA WEDGE BETWEEN THE TWO BRIDGES, THE WHEELER BRIDGE WITH THE BLUE ARCH AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL BRIDGE THAT THEY ADDED WITH THE BLUE ARCH.

THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE IS GOING TO BE IN BETWEEN AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE POWDER COATED METAL RAILING TO MATCH THE SILVER RAILING ON THE ARAPAHOE BRIDGE.

BUT IT FITS BETWEEN THOSE.

SO IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL AESTHETIC FEATURES.

IT'S JUST USING THE AESTHETIC FEATURES ALREADY ON THE ARAPAHOE BRIDGE AS THE RAILING.

AND DID WE WIN, DIDN'T WE WIN SOME TYPE OF AWARD OR, OR MAYBE THE, THE TOP, UM, IDEA FOR THE COTTON BELT TRAIL FROM IN, UH, NORTH CENTRAL COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS? FOR, FOR THAT WE WERE RANK PARTICULAR BRIDGE,

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WE WERE RANK RANK FUNDING REQUEST AND I THINK IT WAS $12.6 MILLION.

SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG DEAL AND WE, WE OBVIOUSLY WE SHARED WHATEVER WE SHARED TO, TO APPLY FOR THAT.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE SHARED WITH US? SURE, WHATEVER.

I MEAN IT'S A, JUST A DOCUMENT THAT ALREADY EXISTS.

YES, WE CAN THAT.

THIS IS A GOOD TIME FOR A 10 MINUTE BREAK.

UH, SEVEN 15.

WE'LL COME, WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS.

I HAVE NO, NO, WE NEED TO MOVE ON.

WE'RE GETTING WE'RE I'VE GOT QUESTIONS ON THIS.

IF DART WANTS TO BE A GOOD PARTNER FOR THE COUNTER OF ADDISON AND WE'LL WORK WITH THIS RANDY BRANDY, THIS IS NOT ABOUT DAR CUT ME OFF.

THIS IS OUR WORK SESSION TO TALK ABOUT THIS, SIR.

WE'LL CONVENE BACK FROM A BRIEF RECESS.

UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COTTON BELT TRAIL AMENITY ENHANCEMENTS OR CAN WE MOVE ON? I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS HONOR.

THANK YOU JENNA.

SO ITEM THREE, THE REQUESTS BO PARK IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, THIS REQUEST INCLUDES, UM, PHASE TWO OF THE PROJECT THAT OUR TEAM STARTED IN HOUSE THIS YEAR.

AND THAT IS FIRST TO RESTORE THE URBAN FOREST.

SO A LOT OF THE TREES ARE IN BOSTON PARK OR HACKBERRY TREES, WHICH HAVE A SHORT LIFE EXPECTANCY.

THEY GROW REALLY FAST, THEY HAVE WEAKER WOOD.

WE HAVE SEVERAL WINDSTORMS IN THE AREA.

THEY REALLY HAVE TAKEN A TOLL ON THE HACKBERRY TREES.

UM, AND OUR TEAM KNOWS THAT THE CHARACTER OF THAT PARK IS THE TREES.

AND SO WE WANTED TO BE PROACTIVE AND COME IN AND PLANT NEW TREES TO GET SOME SIZE TO GET AHEAD OF WHEN WE START LOSING MORE AND MORE OF THOSE MATURE TREES.

AND SO THAT WAS PHASE ONE.

WE'VE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED THAT THIS YEAR WITH TREE MITIGATION FUNDS.

UM, AND THEN WE WANNA COME BACK WITH A PHASE TWO AND THAT'S TO REPLACE, UM, SOME OF THE ASSETS IN THE PARK THAT ARE AGING, LIKE THE LIGHTING.

UM, WE'VE HEARD COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE THAT USE THE PARK THAT THEY DON'T FEEL AS SAFE AS THEY'D LIKE TO FEEL BECAUSE THE LIGHT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED, UM, TO COME IN AND REPLACE THE BENCHES, THE DRINKING FOUNTAINS AND REFRESH THE GRANITE PATHS.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, A LOT OF THE UNDERSTORY PLANT MATERIAL, UM, WAS SUBJECT TO ONE OF THE REALLY HARSH FREEZES THAT WE HAD SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OF THOSE BACK TO BACK RECENTLY, WHICH ARE NOT TYPICAL OF THIS REGION AND IT HAS IMPACTED A LOT OF OUR PLANT MATERIAL.

AND SO THIS PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES RESTORING, UM, THAT UNDERSTORY PLANT MATERIAL.

WE ARE DOING THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT IN HOUSE.

I HAVE INCLUDED $15,000 FOR DESIGN WORK BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A LICENSED IRRIGATOR ON STAFF THAT CAN DO DESIGN PLANS.

WE HAVE LICENSED IRRIGATORS THAT CAN DO FIELD WORK BUT NOT PLANS.

UM, SO I'VE INCLUDED MONEY FOR AN IRRIGATOR TO COME IN AND DO AN IMPROVEMENT TO OUR IRRIGATOR OR TO THE PLANS FOR IRRIGATION.

AND THEN THE REST OF THE FUNDS WOULD BE USED TO, UM, ADD NEW PLANT MATERIAL, REPLACE ASSETS.

WE ALSO WOULD COME IN WITH SOME PROTECTIVE FENCING AROUND THE PLANT AREAS LIKE SMALL LO UM, FENCING TO KEEP DOGS FROM, UM, GOING INTO THE PLANT MATERIAL TO HELP PRESERVE THE PLANT MATERIAL.

AND SO THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR BOSS PARK IMPROVEMENTS.

SO IS IS THAT, THAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE IMPLEMENTATION.

ALL THE MATERIAL AND THE PLANTS? YES SIR.

FOR, UM, THE GREEN, THE GREEN SPACES AND THE GROUND COVER? YES.

IT'S A, BASICALLY A TURNKEY PROJECT AT PHASE TWO.

RIGHT NOW IT'S LIKE THERE'S NO GRASS OR ANYTHING IN THAT PART.

MM-HMM.

IS THERE GONNA BE GRASS WHEN IT'S DONE OR WILL IT BE JUST DIRT? LIKE IT'LL BE UNDER STORY CLAIM MATERIALS.

UM, WHAT WAS OUT THERE PREVIOUSLY WAS A MIX OF, AND KIND OF A LOW GROWING PALM.

AND THEN WINTER CREEPER WE WOULD COME BACK IN WITH GROUND COVERS OF THAT NATURE.

WE WANNA LOOK AT THE DESIGN.

IT'S A LOT MORE SHADE THAN IT USED TO BE THERE.

SO I'M, I CAN'T TELL YOU THE EXACT MATERIAL, BUT IT WOULD BE FULL OF GROUND COVERS.

SO THERE ISN'T EVEN ENOUGH LIGHT FOR THINGS TO GROW.

IS THAT THE PROBLEM? SOME OF THE PLANTS THAT ARE IN THERE NEED MORE LIFE THAN WHAT'S THERE.

UM, BUT HONESTLY WHAT'S IMPACTED THE UNDERSTORY PLANTS IN THIS PLANNING IS THE PET USE THAT HAPPENS, UM, IN THE FACT THAT WE HAD TWO TO BACK TWO BACK TO BACK VERY SEVERE FREEZES THAT WERE NOT INDICATIVE OF LOW TEMPERATURES THAT WE GET IN THIS REGION.

AN KNOCKOUT PLANT MATERIAL.

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AND THEN, UM, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS, UM, TO COME IN AND REWORK THE ENTRANCE AT CELESTIAL PARK.

THE, UM, KIND OF SOUTHEAST ENTRANCE OF CELESTIAL PARK IS ON OVER AN 8% SLOPE, AND IT'S DEACON, POST GRANITE.

YOU REALLY SHOULD PUT DEACON POST GRANITE AT 2% OR LESS, OR ERODE.

UM, SO WE HAVE SOME SEVERE EROSION THAT WE PATCH PRETTY OFTEN AND IT ERODES PRETTY QUICKLY.

UM, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS COME IN WITH MORE OF A NATURAL SYSTEM LIKE YOU SEE IN THIS PHOTO FROM THE LABOR JOHNSON WILDFLOWER CENTER, WHERE WE CAN ADD IN A COUPLE OF STEPS, BUT THEN WE CAN STILL KEEP THE DECOMPOSED GRANITE AND THE LARGE STONE LOOKS.

SO IT STILL LOOKS LIKE A VERY NATURAL ENTRANCE, BUT WE'RE LEVELING OUT THAT AREA, SO WE DON'T HAVE THE EROSION FROM THE DECOMPOSED GRANITE.

WE HAVE A DESIGN THAT'S BEEN DONE FOR THIS, UM, ALREADY WE DID A FEW YEARS AGO.

UM, WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE A FEW KIND OF CHANGES TO IT, BUT THEY'RE VERY MINOR.

AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO DO LIGHTING DESIGN.

UM, TWO, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE WOULD ILLUMINATE KIND OF THAT CENTRAL WALKING AREA SO THAT THE LOOP THAT YOU MAKE AROUND THE LAWN, UM, SO PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THE PARK AT NIGHT, UM, CAN FEEL SAFE AND BE ABLE TO SEE THE WALKING AREA.

WE KNOW WHEN WE INTRODUCE A BIKE IN A PARK NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA, THAT WE NEED TO ENGAGE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEXT TO THE PARK.

AND SO WE WILL GO THROUGH A PROCESS, UM, WITH THE RESIDENTS TO IDENTIFIED WE HAVE BALLARDS OR A LITTLE BIT TALLER PEDESTRIAN POLE.

UM, AND WHAT IS THE PREFERRED ILLUMINATION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE INCLUDED SOME DESIGN MONEY IN THERE FOR THAT, UM, FOR THE LIGHTING STUDY.

SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE FOOT CANDLES AND THE DIFFERENT CUTOFF RATES OF LIGHTS AND STUFF AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

UM, TOTAL COST OF THIS PROJECT IS $268,255.

SO THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS ARE GOING INTO THE CONSTRUCTION OF LIGHTS AND THE ENTRANCE TO THE PARK.

CAN THAT BE BROKEN UP INTO TWO PIECES? THE LIGHTS AND THE ENTRANCE? YES.

I MEAN, IS THERE, IS THERE ANY ECONOMY OF SCALE OF DOING BOTH OF 'EM TOGETHER OR HAVING A CONTRACT? BECAUSE THIS IS A SMALLER PROJECT, SO MM-HMM .

HAVING A LIGHT COMPONENT TO IT WILL, WILL HELP US BECOME MORE COMPETITIVE, GET MORE BIDS.

UM, SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ECONOMY OF SCALE BY DOING THE TWO PROJECTS TOGETHER.

I HAVE, HAVING BROKEN UP WOULD BE NICE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE INFERENCE IS, IS MORE OF A NEED TO HAVE THAN A NICE TO HAVE.

AND THE LIGHTS MAY BE A LITTLE MORE OF A NICE TO HAVE.

SAFETY IS IMPORTANT, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CHOOSE, UM, ONE OF TWO IF WE WANTED TO DO THAT.

SO THE ENTRANCE PORTION IS ROUGHLY ABOUT $180,000, IF THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE, THE MOST OF IT.

COST OF THE LIFE.

IT'S THE MAJORITY OF IT.

WHAT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW? AND JAN ON THE ENTRANCE OR, SO YOU'RE GONNA BREAK SOME STEPS YES, SIR.

INTO THAT.

AND, AND IS THERE GONNA BE SOMETHING A DA THAT WOULDN'T MM-HMM .

WOULD BE OTHER THAN THE STEPS YES.

ALONG THIS EXISTING WALL RIGHT HERE.

WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A CONCRETE RAMP OKAY.

THAT COMES UP THAT WOULD BE NEAR A DA ENTRANCE, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER STONE WALL THAT JUST MIRRORED WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE ON THE SIDE.

JUST QUICKLY TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT SPLITTING 'EM UP, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN SHOW THAT ON THE FUNDING SIDE THOUGH, THE GOSS THAT WE'RE USING ARE FOR A DA COMPLIANCE.

SO LIKE THAT ONE 50,000 CAN ONLY BE USED FOR THE INSURANCE, NOT FOR THE LIKE, UNDERSTOOD.

SO, SO BREAK THE LIGHTS DOWN FOR ME.

DO THE MATH FOR ME AND TELL ME WHAT, WHAT LIGHTING THAT PART'S GONNA COST.

GO AHEAD.

ROUGHLY.

I'M NOT ASKING FOR EXACTLY ABOUT $150,000.

IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE MORE, IT'S $180,000 FOR, UM, THE RAIN OFF.

IT'S ABOUT 70,000 OF LIGHTS.

DOES THE PARK HAVE TO HAVE MULTIPLE A DA ENTRANCES INTO IT? SO YOU'RE ONLY REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE A DA ENTRANCE, BUT IT DOES NEED TO BE LOCATED IF YOU'RE PROVIDING ACCESSIBLE PARKING, THAT NEEDS TO BE THE ENTRANCE CLOSEST TO YOUR PARKING.

AND SO THIS WOULD BE THE ACCESSIBLE ENTRANCE.

SO WE MESSED UP WHEN WE PUT IT OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE.

THE RULES WERE DIFFERENT THEN.

IT WASN'T THAT WE MESSED UP, IT'S JUST I DIDN'T OUT THAT BAD CHOICE OF WORDS.

YEAH, IT, IT, WE KIND OF GOT CAUGHT UP IN REGULATIONS ON THAT.

THERE'S ENOUGH LIGHTING FUNDS PLUGGED INTO THIS TO GIVE US THAT FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THE NEED THAT WE HEAR.

AND, AND WOULD WE BE ADDING SOME LIGHTING KIND OF IN THE BACK OF THE PARK WHERE WE'VE HAD SAFETY, SECURITY, SECURITY ISSUES? THAT WOULD BE, WE DID, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DID GO IN AND DO SOME MORE TREE UP LIGHTING IN THAT AREA.

BUT THIS WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR THOSE CONCERNS FROM, FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND THE PARK USERS AND INCORPORATE THAT.

SO THERE'S,

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PAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT ARE VERY LOW.

I SUSPECT THE NEIGHBORS, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, WOULD MORE THAN HAPPY TO HEAR, HEAR ABOUT THIS, THE RIGHT TYPE OF LIGHTING.

UM, AND THEN WHAT'S BROKEN DOWN HERE IS A LIST OF OUR ONE TIME REQUEST.

SO THESE AREN'T NECESSARILY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, BUT THEY ARE A ONE TIME REQUEST.

UM, WHEN WE DID THE PARKS RECREATION IN OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN, THE FIRST THING THAT WE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS IS TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE FIRST.

AND SO THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS DRIVEN DECISIONS EVERY YEAR.

YOU'VE SEEN WHEN WE BROUGHT A BUDGET PACKAGE FORWARD, THE FIRST THING THAT WE TALK ABOUT IS ASSET MANAGEMENT.

UM, LAST YEAR WE ASKED FOR $196,000 IN ASSET MANAGEMENT.

AND SO THIS NUMBER, UM, IS A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR.

IT'S GOT SOME ONE TIME COST THAT ARE FOR SOME FOUNTAINS THAT ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IF TO ADDRESS.

AND SO IT'S NOT A TYPICAL REQUEST.

UM, WE HAVE OVER 4,200 ASSETS IN OUR PARKS AND THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 11 MILLION IN NEED OF REPLACEMENT OF REHAB OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US EVERY YEAR.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE NEED TO SPEND $11 MILLION, IT JUST MEANS WE NEED TO TOUCH THAT MUCH IN ASSETS.

SO WE HAVE A FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT WE LOOK OUT EVERY YEAR, WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS YEAR? WE INCLUDE THE ONE TIME COST OF RESURFACING AND IMPROVING THE LIGHTS FOR THE ADDISON CIRCLE WATER BASINS.

AND SO THAT'S THAT ELEMENT THAT I TOLD YOU HAD A LITTLE BIT HIGHER PRICE TAG.

UM, I'LL GO THROUGH WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, BUT IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE FY 25, SO THE COLUMN BEFORE THE BLUE BOX, THESE WERE THE ITEMS THAT WE LOOKED AT FOR THIS YEAR.

SO THIS $196,000 IN ASSET MANAGEMENT.

THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON, IF NOT COMPLETED.

SOME OF THEM WE HAVE.

UM, SO FOR FY 26, IT'S VERY SIMILAR.

WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING SOME OF OUR SITE FURNISHINGS, OUR TRASH RECEPTACLES, OUR BENCHES, OUR PICNIC TABLES, BUT THE WATER GARDEN BASES BASINS IS ONE OF THOSE BIG TICKET ITEMS OF 292 OR $93,000 THAT WE HAVE IN THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT AND REPLACING SOME DRINKING FOUNTAINS ON RAIN TRAIL, UM, IN CELESTIAL PARK.

IN WARREN PARK.

UM, THIS IS A PHOTO OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE, UM, WATER GARDEN BASINS WHERE WE HAVE THE TILES, THEY'RE POPPING OFF.

UM, IF YOU PULL THE TILES UP, YOU'LL ACTUALLY FIND TREE ROOTS UNDERNEATH THEM.

SO TREE ROOTS ARE GETTING INTO THE WATER BASIN AND CAUSING THE TILES TO POP OFF.

UM, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE COME IN INSTEAD OF THE TILES THAT WE COME IN WITH AN AGGREGATE SEATED PLASTER LIKE YOU SEE IN A POOL SETTING.

UM, THAT, AND THAT WE USE A WIDER COLOR.

I HAVE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS HAVING THESE WATER BASINS, ALTHOUGH YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO SWIM IN 'EM.

I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN OUT THERE BEFORE WHERE WE'VE SEEN SOMEBODY GET 'EM AND THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO.

UM, THE VERY DARK TILE HAS SOME SAFETY CONCERNS FOR ME, SO USE A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER COLOR SO YOU COULD SEE IF SOMEBODY WAS IN THERE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

AND THEN WE WOULD REPLACE THE LIGHTS THAT ARE IN THE MASONS, UM, WITH LED LIGHTS THAT WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE MORE BRIGHTNESS AT NIGHT.

UM, THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT NUMBER.

WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE CONTRACTOR IN THE UPPER BASINS UNDER THE TREE GROVE THAT THEY WILL NOT WARRANTY THEIR WORK BECAUSE OF THE TREE ROOTS.

AND SO WE ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR, ARE THERE OTHER SOLUTIONS, UM, OF WHAT WE COULD DO THAT WOULD NOT GO OVER THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT.

AND SO ALTHOUGH WE PROVIDED A PRICE TO RE PLASTER THOSE UPPER BASINS, WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER SOLUTION THAT WE COULD DO IN THAT SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THE BASINS.

AND IF WE MADE A CHANGE, WE WOULD, UM, COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH WHAT THAT RECOMMENDATION IS.

UM, THE NEXT, UH, DECISION PACKAGE THAT WE HAVE IS LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF AREAS IN TOWN WHERE WE PLANTED BERMUDA GRASS, UM, UNDER CANOPY TREES.

WE'VE PLANTED A LOT OF CANOPY TREES REALLY CLOSE TOGETHER AND WE'VE GOTTEN REALLY GOOD SHAPE COVER, BUT WE'VE LOST THAT UNDER STORY PLANT MATERIALS.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE ALSO LOST SOME SHRUGS AND SOME GROUND COVERS BECAUSE OF THE FREEZES THAT WE'VE HAD THE

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THEY'RE NOT TYPICAL FOR THIS REGION.

UM, SO WE ARE REQUESTING $158,000 TO COME IN AND DO LANDSCAPE ENHANCEMENTS.

UM, I'VE PUT TOGETHER A CHART SHOWING WHERE THOSE FUNDS WILL BE UTILIZED.

UM, WHILE WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, IT'S ALWAYS, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT DO WE RESTORE TO AN ORIGINAL CONDITION? DO WE INCREASE OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE BY ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LANDSCAPE THAT WE PLACE, UM, IN THE LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE THAT WE HAVE.

WE ALSO DID A QUICK MATH EQUATION TO FIGURE OUT DO WE REDUCE OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE AND JUST MULCH THOSE AREAS.

AND THAT ACTUALLY CAME OUT TO COST MORE THAN COMING BACK WITH TURF AND GROUND COVER RESTORATION.

SO WE DIDN'T OFFER THAT.

UM, BUT WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING THIS YEAR IS CELESTIAL PARK TO GO IN AND FILL IN BARE AREAS THAT HAVE LOST GROUND COVER IN TURF TO MAKE IRRIGATION IMPROVEMENTS.

AND ALSO DO THE SAME THING AT NORTH ADDISON PARK.

UM, WE HAVE SOME OTHER PARKS LISTED THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT FOR FUTURE YEARS OR, OR DROP, MAKE A DECISION TO INCLUDE THOSE.

UM, AND THEN WE'VE PROVIDED ON THE RIGHT THAT INCREASED LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHICH WOULD BE AROUND LAWN AREAS, REMOVING THE TURF THAT WE HAVE AND COMING BACK WITH MORE OF A GOLF COURSE TURF AND MAINTAINING IT TWICE A WEEK.

UM, SO THAT WOULD INCREASE OUR, OUR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OPTIONS FOR, FOR YOU THAT WE WANTED TO PROVIDE FOR YOU TO DISCUSS, JANET.

SO HOW DO YOU PRIORITIZE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOUR PROJECTS ARE FOR THE, FOR THE YEAR, FOR THIS BUDGET SEASON? MM-HMM .

UM, AND THEN A FOLLOW UP IS IN YOUR BUDGET.

DO YOU HAVE FUNDS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST GO THROUGH OTHER AREAS AND, AND TRY TO MM-HMM .

UM, YOU KNOW, REFURBISH OR REPLANT, WHAT, WHAT'S BEEN LOST? AND THE REASON I ASK IS THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS, UH, ON THE READING TRAIL THAT I THINK REALLY NEED SOME HELP.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ON YOUR RADAR.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU PERIODICALLY VISIT AND MIGHT HAVE FUNDS IN YOUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF AND YOU WOULD TO NEXT YEAR.

SO WE HAVE ABOUT $300,000 IN OUR BUDGET FOR A PLANT, UM, RESTORATION.

SO THIS WEEK YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THAT WE CAME IN AND WE ADDED TURF IN FRONT OF THE ATHLETIC CLUB AND GROUND COVER THAT CAME FROM THIS FUNDS.

UM, WE USED TO HAVE $150,000 AND THEN WE GOT THE TREE MITIGATION FUND AND WE'RE ABLE TO PAY FOR TREES OUT OF THAT.

AND THEN WE REALLOCATED, UM, THOSE BOTANICAL DOLLARS TO COMING BACK AND REPLANTING TURF AND, AND GROUND COVER.

UM, WE DO HAVE RAIN TRAIL ON OUR LIST AND WE HAVE LAY LOCKS PARK.

YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE IT RIGHT HERE, KNOWING THAT AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO IN AND RESTORE OUR, THE PLAYGROUND IS STARTING TO AGE OUT.

WHEN WE REDO THAT PLAYGROUND, WE MAY DO A BIGGER PROJECT, BUT MY TEAM'S ACTUALLY TRYING TO MAKE THEIR WAY TO, UM, ADDISON CIRCLE PARK RIGHT NOW TO RESTORE SOME TURF AND TO ALSO HIT LAY LOCKS PARK.

WE HAVE WRITING TRAIL ON OUR LIST.

IF WE DON'T GET TO IT BEFORE IT GETS TOO HOT, IT'LL BE ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS THAT WE START IN THE FALL.

BUT THERE'S ALREADY HOT, THERE'S MONEY, BUT, BUT THERE'S FUNDS IN THE BUDGET TO TAKE, THERE'S SOME FUNDS EARMARKED FOR THAT.

SO THESE WOULD BE ANYTHING IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PLANNED OUT WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET.

ALRIGHT.

SO I THINK REALLY WHAT WE WANNA DO WITH THIS SLIDE AND THIS CONVERSATION IS JUST KIND OF CALL OUT AND SAY, HEY, WE KNOW WE HAVE ISSUES RIGHT NOW AND IT'S FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT DANA SAID, AND WE REALLY WANT TO DEVOTE RESOURCES TO, TO FIXING IT.

AND SO REALLY THIS IS A MENU OF OPTIONS.

WE COULD BE MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN THIS.

WE COULD HIT MORE PARKS NEXT YEAR.

OH, PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION NOW.

UM, IF THAT'S THE DESIRE, I THINK WE, WE, WE CAN GO THROUGH EACH AND GIVE SOME CONSIDERATIONS ON WHICH ONES WOULD BE GOOD TO TARGET, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE A LEVEL OF SERVICE CONVERSATION TOO, AND SAY, IF WE'RE GONNA GO IN AND DO IT, DO WE WANT TO INCREASE OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE AND TRY TO GO FOR THE ONETIME COST TO THE HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THE GRASS? THE MAINTENANCE COSTS $10,000 PER YEAR.

SO REALLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ONETIME COST NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT DO IT.

WE WANT TO HAVE, WE WANT ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OF WHERE WE GO BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT.

WE ARE GOING TO PRIORITIZE NOT ONLY GETTING THESE PARKS, BUT ALL THE OTHER AREAS OUT THERE, ALL THE COMMON AREAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, ENSURING THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET THOSE UP TO THE STANDARD THAT WE WOULD EXPECT.

UM, BUT THAT'S REALLY WHERE THIS COMES FROM.

SO WE'D LOVE SOME DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL ON THAT.

DO YOU WANNA HAVE THAT DISCUSSION NOW OR THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

DISCUSS NOW.

OBVIOUSLY YOU'LL HAVE MORE TIME SURE.

LATER AS WELL.

THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN FORGOTTEN OR FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY DON'T LOOK AS GOOD AS THEY THEY HAVE IN THE PAST.

WELL, I'M HAPPY THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS.

AND THIS IS BEING PRESENTED BECAUSE MY THOUGHT IS THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE DO REALLY, REALLY WELL RIGHT THERE, THERE ARE AREAS OF TOWN THAT LOOK GREAT AND THEY'VE ALWAYS LOOKED GREAT, BUT

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SO I THINK IT'S REALLY TIMELY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

I, I HEAR FROM CONSTITUENTS AND I'VE ASKED YOU AND STAFF TO BRING THIS STUFF UP BECAUSE WE HEAR FROM OUR PEOPLE THAT WANT THIS.

AND IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WELL WHY IS IT THIS WAY? AND WE, WE LEARNED SOME REASONS WHY THESE THINGS HAVE DETERIORATED AND, UH, WHAT DOES IT DO WELL? WHAT CAN WE DO TO FIX IT? WELL, THIS IS, THEY'RE JUST BRINGING US WHAT WE CAN DO TO FIX IT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE THIS.

THEY'RE JUST GIVING US WHAT WE ASKED FOR AS FAR AS THE INFORMATION.

SO THANKS FOR BRINGING, BRINGING THESE ATTENTION.

NOW WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER WE WANNA SPEND THE MONEY ON IT OR NOT.

WHERE IS THE COLUMN FOR THE COMMON SENSE APPROACH LIKE A HOMEOWNER WOULD DO WHEN MY GRASS STARTS DYING IN AREA, I I THIN MY TREES OUT TO WHERE WE CAN GET LIKE DOWN IN THERE RATHER THAN COME IN AND COMPLETELY REDO.

AND SO WE HAVE DONE THAT.

UM, WHEN, WHEN I STARTED MANAGING THE DEPARTMENT, WE WERE SPENDING ABOUT $75,000 A YEAR ON TREE PRINTING.

AND WE'RE NOW SPENDING $225,000 A YEAR ON TREE CRANE.

AND WE HAVE A FIVE YEAR PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE TOUCHING EVERY TREE IN ADDISON ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS AT LEAST TO GO IN AND OPEN UP THE CAN AND THIN IT OUT.

SO WE ARE DOING THAT.

AND THAT, JUST TO SPEAK OF CELESTIAL, I'M, I'M IN IT THREE TIMES A DAY.

THAT IS THE ISSUE IN CELESTIAL.

MOST OF IT IS JUST THE TREE.

THE BEAUTIFUL TREES HAVE CHOKED OUT THE SUN.

THE SECONDARY ISSUE IS SOCCER TEAMS AND ULTIMATE FRISBEE TEAMS COMING IN AND TEARING OUR GRASS UP WHEN USING IT FOR AN ATHLETIC FIELD RATHER THAN FOR A COMMUNITY PARK THAT IT'S DESIGNED TO PUT IN.

SO IF WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT MORE SUPPORT IN THAT AREA FOR SOME ENFORCEMENT ON THAT TYPE OF STUFF, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

UH, PARTICULARLY AFTER A RAIN, WHEN THE GROUND IS WET OR DAMP, THE SOCCER KIDS ARE RUNNING AROUND ON THE FIELD PLAYING SOCCER AND TEARING THE GRASS UP.

SO IF WE CAN GET A LITTLE HELP ON ENFORCEMENT ON THAT KIND OF STUFF, IT WOULD REALLY HELP THERE.

WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT I KNOW YOU DO THAT DOESN'T ALLOW LEAGUE PLAY.

SO YOU CAN GO OUT AND KICK A SOCCER BALL.

UM, BUT IT'S ORGANIZED PLAY.

IT'S NOT ALLOWED.

ARE YOU SEEING THAT RANDY? I AM SEEING THAT AND JENNA HAS ADDRESSED THAT OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

VERY WELL.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY COME IN AND PUT SIGNS IN THE PARK TO, YOU KNOW, SIGNAGE TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

WE WERE HAVING HUGE ISSUES WITH WEDDING PARTIES WANTING TO COME IN AND TAKE OVER THE WHOLE PARK AND CLOSE THE PARK.

THEY HAD SECURITY GUARDS AT THE PARK AND YOU CAN'T COME IN.

UH, WE HAD YOUTH SOCCER LEAGUE THAT TOOK OVER AND THEY WERE USING IT FOR A YOUTH SOCCER LEAGUE.

AND WE HAD A ULTIMATE FRISBEE LEAGUE THAT WAS COMING IN THERE AND 50 OR 60 PEOPLE AT A TIME WOULD BE PLAYING ULTIMATE FRISBEE IN THERE IN A LEAGUE.

SO THAT'S ALL I'M, AND AND GEN ADDRESS THAT AT THE TIME AND, AND HELP US ON THAT.

BUT IT'S JUST AN ONGOING, IT'S LIKE THE STREET PARKING IN THAT AREA.

IT IS JUST AN ONGOING REMINDER AND ENFORCEMENT ISSUE THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

SO IT'S NOT BEING ENFORCED NOW.

UH, THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES A AN OFFICER WILL COME OUT AND SAY, OH, IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL SUNDAY.

I'M NOT GONNA TELL 'EM NOT TO PARK ON THE STREET.

OR I'M NOT GONNA TELL 'EM THEY CAN'T PLAY IN THE PARK.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SUNDAY.

WE'RE GONNA LET 'EM DO IT.

SO I KNOW.

SO STREET PARKING THAT HAS CHANGED OVER THE PAST AND, AND THAT, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT COMMENT.

WHAT I'M MOSTLY SPEAKING OF IS UNDER THE LAST POLICE CHIEF'S.

HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN THAT TOWN TOO.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE CONTEXT HERE.

NO, NO.

I'M LOOKING AT IT IN, WITHIN THE LAST YEAR THAT HAS BEEN HELPED.

AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME PEOPLE COME IN AND THE THE OFFICERS ARE DOING A, A, A GREAT JOB WHEN THEY SEE IT.

BUT IT'S, I'M JUST SAYING IT IS AN ONGOING PROBLEM AND IT'S APPRECIATED WHEN IT IS, WHEN WE DO GET THE HELP IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

LET ME, CAN I JUMP IN, UM, ON THIS GOLF COURSE, THIS INCREASED LEVEL OF SERVICE GOLF COURSE FOR US.

UM, IS THERE SOMETHING ON YOUR MIND THAT BROUGHT THAT IDEA UP? I'M JUST TRYING TO, I'M JUST TRYING TO DO SUE, I'M JUST, I'LL JUMP IN.

YEAH, YEAH.

I WANT TO HEAR.

YEAH, I MEAN, SO, SO WE KNOW WE HAVE THE ISSUE AND IT'S COME UP.

I, WE ALL SEE IT.

I, I'M WALKING AROUND, I'M SEEING IT.

WE, WE UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES AND JANET HAS DONE A LOT WITH THE TREE PRUNING AND OTHER THINGS TO GET THERE.

AND SO NOW WE KNOW WE NEED TO GET TO THAT POINT WHERE WE HAVE A GET BACK TO WHERE WE WANT TO BE A LEVEL OF SERVICE.

I THINK WHENEVER WE DO THAT, WE SHOULD HAVE, THIS IS BUDGETS TIME FOR CONVERSATIONS OF DO WE WANT TO INCREASE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE? WE, IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH ADDISON, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN ADDISON, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT IN SOME OF THE CITIES AROUND US, BUT THERE'S OTHER CITIES IN, THERE'S OTHER CITIES IN THE AREA THAT HAVE A VERY

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AND THEY HAVE SOME PRACTICES THAT MAYBE THEY HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL FOR WHAT THEY HAVE, THEY WANT.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD GO TO.

THEY WANT.

YEAH, I, I AGREE WITH THE GENERAL CONCEPT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO WRAP MY BRAIN AROUND THE GOLF COURSE, THE GOLF COURSE GRASS AND, AND UM, YOU KNOW, COULD THAT HOLD UP TO, UH, SOME OF THE PARK? SO THAT'S PART OF THE BENEFIT IS A TURF LIKE THAT CAN HANDLE IT BUT TRAFFIC BETTER.

UM, IN FACT WE WOULD PROBABLY GO BACK WITH THAT GRASS ANYWAY IF WE WERE GONNA REPLANT A BRAND NEW AREA.

BUT WHAT WE WOULD DO DIFFERENTLY IS WE WOULD MAINTAIN IT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TO KEEP IT REALLY LOW TO THE GROUND AND ENCOURAGE IT TO SPREAD.

AND THAT'S WHAT GIVES YOU THAT KIND OF THICKNESS THAT YOU SEE.

UM, AND SO THE MAINTENANCE PART IS KIND OF THAT SECOND PART OF IT TO REALLY GET IT TO HANDLE THAT FOOT TRAFFIC AND THAT WEAR AND TEAR IS THAT GRASS CIA AS OPPOSED TO LIKE ST.

AUGUSTINE.

SO CIA UM, IS A REALLY GREAT GRASS.

IT'S ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE'RE GOING BACK IN OUR SHADIER AREAS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IN BERMUDA GRASS BECAUSE THEY LOOK SIMILAR AND WE DON'T NOTICE THAT BIG DIFFERENCE.

UM, THE ST.

AUGUSTINE WE HAVE IN PLACES, IT ST.

AUGUSTINE CAN'T HANDLE SOME OF THE FOOT TRAFFIC THAT YOU SEE IN PUBLIC PARKS, IS THE BIG DIFFERENCE.

UM, SO WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND IN AREAS WHERE WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA GET SUN IS THAT WE WOULD COME IN WITH A BERMUDA GRASS THAT'S A HYBRID LIKE TIFF, UM, THAT GROWS REALLY LOW TO THE GROUND, IT SPREADS FROM RUNNERS AND WE WOULD MOW IT WITH A, A RAIL MOWER.

I THOUGHT ASHLEY ON THIS MOWER'S RAIL, IT'S RDEL.

IT'S A SPECIFIC KIND OF TYPE OF MOTOR THAT HELPS IT STAND ON TO THE GROUND.

DO WE ALREADY HAVE THAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT OR WOULD WE NEED TO GET IT, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE OUR MAINTENANCE VENDOR THAT DOES OUR CONTRACT MAINTENANCE USE THAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT.

WELL I THINK WHAT YOU SAID IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT ASSUME YOU KNOW IT 'CAUSE YOU FEEL IT AND YOU SEE IT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T WANT US TO EVER GET AWAY FROM.

THAT'S PART OF OUR BRAND.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH AROUND TOWN THAT WE NEED TO BRING UP TO PAR BEFORE WE EVEN TALK ABOUT AN INCREASED LEVEL OF SERVICE.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHT.

AGREE WITH THAT COMPLETELY.

SO JOHN, WOULD THERE BE A, A KIND OF A HYBRID OPTION OF THIS TO, TO KEEP THE, UH, WITH THE, THE ORIGINAL INTENT WITH THE, WITH THE, AS FAR AS THE, UH, THE TURF AND, AND GROUND COVER AND SO FORTH, BUT TO INCREASE THE MAINTENANCE LEVEL BECAUSE ONCE A WEEK FOR THE MOWING, YOU KNOW, DURING THE, DURING THE RAINIER SEASONS, IT GETS PRETTY LONG.

AND THEN YOU GET, IF YOU GET THE WEEK WHEN THEY, THEY MISS IT BECAUSE IT RAINS AND SO IT GOES TWO WEEKS.

AND WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THAT THE LAST YEAH.

A LITTLE WEEKS.

IT'S BEEN A LITTLE PAINFUL.

UM, WE COULD LOOK AT DOING THAT.

THAT'S AN EASY THING FOR US TO MAKE A CHANGE TO.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE COULD DO TO MAKE A CHANGE IS IF WE HAVE A NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

SO WE REDO A PART OF ADDISON CIRCLE PART 'CAUSE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING A PART OF THE VISION PLAN.

WE GO BACK IN WITH THAT LEVEL OF TURF.

OR IF WE'RE GONNA REPLACE THE PLAYGROUND AT LAY LOSS AND WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, ADD IN SOME MORE LANDSCAPE AREA, WE COULD DO THAT TOO.

SO WE COULD TRANSITION INTO THAT FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

BUT IN, IN THE BEGINNING WE COULD INCREASE OUR MAINTENANCE.

SO I THINK THAT IS A HYBRID APPROACH TO GET US THERE.

AND BUDGET, WE'LL COME BACK AND, AND LOOK AT, HEY, WHAT WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE TO PRUNE A LITTLE BIT MORE FREQUENTLY? AND SOME CAUTION I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE YOU JUST PUT GRASS I SAW, JUST SAW IT IN FRONT OF THE, UH, A C AND THAT CANOPY OF TREES AND THE SLOPE THAT THAT GRASS IS ON.

SO A QUESTION OR A THOUGHT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO RANDY'S POINT OR A DATA POINT, JENNA'S POINT, WE HAVE SO MANY ASSETS OF TREES, WE ALMOST HAVE TOO MANY THAT WE CAN'T EVEN KEEP UP WITH THE PRUNING SO THAT THE GROUND COVERS CAN GROW.

DON'T WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE BAD LEVEL OF SURFACE? WE NEED MORE THAN EVERY FIVE YEARS OF TREE GETS TOUCHED.

ISN'T THAT TOO LONG TO WAIT? SHOULD WE LOOK INTO BUDGETING FOR THAT SO WE GET MORE PRUNING SO THE GROUND COVERS BE REPLACED LESS ANNUALLY? SO WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN MORE GROUND COVER COMING BACK NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN CREAMING.

UM, LIKE WE HAVE.

SO AREAS ON THE EDGE HAVE STARTED TO FILL IN AND WE'RE SEEING IT GO IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I, IF WE PRUNED, I WOULD SAY IF WE'RE GONNA CR MORE THAN ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS, WE WOULDN'T WANNA DO LIKE MAYBE EVERY THREE YEARS BECAUSE THERE'S A POINT WHERE WE CAN OVER PRUNE AND WE CAN START TO HARM THE TREE.

UM, WE DID PLANT A LOT OF TREES.

WE HAVE A DIFFERENT STANDARD WHERE WE PLANTED THEM CLOSER TOGETHER THAN WE DO RIGHT NOW.

BUT OUR APPROACH HAS BEEN AS WE'VE LOST TREES, WE JUST PLANT THEM BACK WHERE THEY'RE SPACED OUT A LITTLE BIT BETTER BECAUSE THE TREES ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF ADDISON.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN ADDISON, YOU DRIVE IN, YOU SEE THE TREES AND WE DON'T WANNA LOSE THAT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF BEEN OUR MANAGEMENT APPROACH OF IT.

WE CAN BOTH, BETWEEN NOW

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WITH THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN PLAY, RUNOFF HAPPENS ALL THE TIME OUT OF THAT SIDEWALK AND THAT CANOPY STILL LOOKS LIKE A MASSIVE CANOPY.

LIKE IT HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED IN YEARS.

SO B MY OWN OPINION IS THAT GRASS IS GONNA REIVE WITHIN START NOW 12 MONTHS, IT'LL BE BARREN AGAIN.

PATCHY.

'CAUSE THE SLOPE ONE, THE TWO OF THE CANOPY'S WAY TOO THICK FOR THAT SPOT AS AN EXAMPLE.

THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

I CAN GO TO ADDISON CIRCLE PARK AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S SO GREEN AND LUSH THAT THAT'S, I'M WONDERING DO WE NEED TO HAVE AN EXTRA DAY OR AN EXTRA THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE PRUNING THESE HEAVY AREAS THAT KILL EVERYTHING ON THE GROUND? SO JUST, JUST MY THOUGHT ONE, WHAT KIND OF GRASS DID WE PUT IN SOCIA? BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN AREA THAT GETS HIGH FOOT TRAFFIC AND IT DOES WELL THIS YEAR.

SO WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY WHEN IT CAME EARLIER YOU SAID WE SPENT 2 25.

I REMEMBER THAT MEETING.

I THOUGHT IT WAS 200 A YEAR FOR PRUNING.

AM I WRONG ABOUT THAT? IT'S 200 A YEAR, UM, FROM OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS CONTRACT.

AND THEN WE HAVE SOME MONEY IN THE TREE MITIGATION FUND THAT WE END UP ALLOCATING TOWARDS PRUNING.

THERE'S ABOUT 25,000 A YEAR THAT'S FOR EMERGENCIES THAT KIND OF JUST SITS THERE.

LIKE WE HAVE A SMAR THAT FLOWS THROUGH AND KNOCKS DOWN SOME TREES AND STUFF.

BUT THE, BUT WE HAVE THAT CONTRACT.

IT WAS A MILLION DOLLARS FOR FIVE.

IT WAS, IT WAS THE $200,000.

YOU AND ON THE TRAIL EARLIER YOU SAID IT ALL ABOUT WAS FUNDED.

I THOUGHT WE WERE PAYING $307,000 FROM ADDISON.

ARE WE NOT DOING THAT FOR THAT COTTON ULTRA? I KNOW I'M NOT, CORRECT.

YOU'RE CORRECT.

UM, I JUST WONDERED ABOUT, THERE WAS A, YOU'RE CORRECT.

THERE WAS A SMALL AMOUNT THAT ADDISON HAD TO CONTRIBUTE AS A MATCH AND THEN THE COUNTY, SO WE STILL PAY THAT.

I JUST WANTED KNOW BECAUSE I MEANT TO ASK EARLIER.

YEAH, I AGREE WITH WHAT, WHAT CHRIS SUGGESTED.

IT'S LIKE LET'S BRING, BUT, BUT IF, IF THERE'S SOME PROJECT WHERE WE'RE HAVING, UH, MAYBE ADDISON CIRCLE 'CAUSE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING ADDISON CIRCLE VISION STUDY.

UM, IF THERE, IF THERE'S SOME PROJECT THAT'S FORCING US TO REMOVE, REMOVE ALL THE, SO ANYWAY, I'M OPEN, YOU KNOW, TO RAISING IT UP FOR THAT SITUATION.

UM, WHEN THOSE DON'T YEAH.

TRY IT OUT MM-HMM .

THAT IT NEEDS TO BE TARGETED.

WHEN WE SEE A BALD AREA, WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT RATHER THAN ON A REGULAR SCHEDULE.

BUT IF, IF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND WHAT JENNA IS SAYING, THAT IF WE COME IN WITH THIS, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE STUFF.

IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, IF IF THE PEOPLE THAT MAINTAIN IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THE WAY THEY MAINTAIN IT AND EQUIPMENT, THEN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE EQUIPMENT EVERY TIME THEY GO SOMEWHERE THAT'S GONNA BE PROHIBITIVE TO THE, TO THAT CONTRACTOR I WOULD THINK.

'CAUSE THOSE REAL MOWERS ARE NOT, AND I GUESS I'M ENVISIONING SOMETHING A LOT, MUCH LARGER PARK LIKE A VI TRIVION PARK, UH, ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING HUGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING IN FOR SPECIAL EVENTS AND WE'RE, WE'RE WANTING TO PROVIDE A MUCH MORE PREMIUM EXPERIENCE.

I JUST WOULDN'T SEE WHERE WE WOULD CHANGE ALL OF THAT OUT AT ONE TIME.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT UP FOR, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SUGGESTING LET'S, HEY, LET'S JUST TRY IT OUT.

LET'S JUST RIP OUT ALL THE GRASS AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK AND, AND FLOW IN SOME NEW ONE.

BUT IF, BUT IF WE IMPLEMENT THIS ADDISON CIRCLE PARK VISIONARY VISIONARY AREA STUDY THAT CAUSES ALL KINDS OF LANDSCAPING CHANGES THAT, THAT MAY PRESENT AN OPPORTUNITY THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT IS A SIMILAR HYBRID PLAN AS WELL.

DO IT HERE, NOT DO IT THERE UNTIL WE HAVE TO.

I AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK WE, IT'D PROBABLY COME BEFORE US AND WE'D SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, YEAH, LET'S, I'D LIKE TO, WE'D APPROVE IT, BUT ALSO WITH THIS MORE PREMIUM.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT SEGUE TO THE NEXT ITEM BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT MADISON CIRCLE.

PERFECT.

PARTNERSHIPS WITH NO TO INVEST IN THE PART.

GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION.

UM, SO PRIORITY THREE FOR US WAS ADDISON CIRCLE PARK CAPITAL CAMPAIGN.

WHEN WE BROUGHT THE VISION PLAN TO COUNCIL, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THERE WOULD BE SEVERAL FUNDING MECHANISMS TO FUND THIS PARK.

THAT IT WOULDN'T BE ALL FROM TOWN DOLLARS.

UM, A PARKLAND DE OUR PARKLAND DEDICATION DEVELOPMENT FEES AN AVENUE FOR US TO LOOK.

ATT FUNDS ARE AN AVENUE, BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST AVENUES IS TO CREATE A CAPITAL GIVING CAMPAIGN WHERE WE REACH OUT TO OUR CORPORATE SPONSORS FOR ADDISON

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UM, TO DO THAT WE WOULD NEED TO TAKE THE DESIGN THAT WE HAVE AND BUILD OFF OF IT.

WE WOULD NEED TO REFINE THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS IN MORE DETAIL AND WE WOULD CREATE ADDITIONAL GRAPHICS AND FROM THAT WE WOULD DEVELOP AN OPINION OF PROBABLY COST FOR THE ENTIRE PARK.

UM, THAT WOULD ALSO GIVE US A TOOL TO LOOK AT PHASING THE PARK OR BUILDING IT ALL AT ONCE.

WE COULD HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, UM, AND DEVELOP COLLATERAL MATERIALS.

AND SO THE COST THAT YOU SEE HERE ISN'T ALL FOR CONSULT FEES.

UM, A PORTION OF IT IS FOR CONSULTANT FEES AND ANOTHER PORTION IS TO CREATE THE, A DEDICATED WEBPAGE FOR THE PARK.

SOME OF THE KIND OF GRAPHICS THAT BROCHURES AND STUFF THAT YOU WOULD LEAVE BEHIND FOR POTENTIAL DONORS.

UM, AND SO WE'RE ASKING FOR $196,000 TO BEGIN THAT CAMPAIGN, UM, TO BE ABLE, ABLE TO FUND THE VISION FOR THE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK VISION PLAN.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CAPITAL AND, AND PARTNERING WITH OUR PARTNERS IN ADDISON MM-HMM .

HAVE WE HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE WILLING AND WOULD WE BE WILLING TO LET THEM TO SELL THE NAMING RIGHTS FOR A PARK IF THEY WANTED TO COME IN AND FUND A LARGE SECTION OF THIS.

THAT'S PART OF DEVELOPING THIS CAMPAIGN IS WE WOULD LIKE THE CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND.

WE WOULD IDENTIFY THAT THERE'S A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PUT SOMEBODY'S NAME ON THAT PLAYGROUND.

UM, THE CONSULTANT THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH ALSO ADVOCATES FOR YOU DON'T JUST ASK FOR FUNDS TO GO INTO CONSTRUCTION.

YOU ALSO TIE SOME MAINTENANCE FUNDS INTO THAT ASK.

UM, SO THERE'S FUNDS COMING IN ANNUALLY TIED TO THE NAME ON THOSE FACILITIES.

UM, AND SO WE'RE USING, WE'RE WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT THAT HAS A TRACK RECORD OF DEVELOPING CAMPAIGNS LIKE THAT AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD BE HELPING US WITH.

AND WOULDN'T THAT, WOULDN'T THIS PART BE OPEN TO MULTIPLE YES.

UH, PARTNERS.

I MEAN SECTION IT OFF TO WHERE THIS SECTION IS X, Y, Z COMPANY OR SOMEONE THE PLAYGROUND, THE THE BEER GARDEN PAVILION.

THE STAGE WHERE IT WOULDN'T BE SUCH A LARGE INVESTMENT BY ONE COMPANY, BUT IT WOULD BE A MAJOR INVESTMENT FOR ONE AREA.

BUT WE WOULD TAKE ONE DONATION IF SOMEONE WANTED TO SING.

WE'LL TAKE IS THAT, IS THAT A NUMBER, IS THAT A REALISTIC NUMBER TO YEAH, SO JANET CAN SPEAK TO, BUT YEAH, THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD PREVIOUSLY IS LIKE $30 MILLION ROUGHLY.

AND, AND WHAT WE WOULD LOVE TO DO IS A MINIMUM OF 10 MILLION FROM CAPITAL FROM THESE KIND OF CONTRIBUTIONS.

BUT OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET ENTIRE AMOUNT FROM THAT.

SO KIND OF 10 TO $30 MILLION RANGE IS WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING FOR POSSIBLY IN THE CONTRIBUTIONS.

BUT JANET CORRECT ME IF I SAID ANYTHING.

YEP.

THAT'S, UM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 10, 10 AND 10 WHERE MAYBE WE COULD FIND A GRANT FUNDING OR SOMETHING FOR A 10.

THE TOWNS PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE AND TOWN FUNDS COULD BE 10 AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL 10 COULD BE CAPITAL.

BUT WE DID, WE DID THIS FIRST SO THAT IF WE CAN GET MORE THAN 10 FROM THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND THAT LESSENS WHAT THE TOWN WOULD WE HAVE TO CORRECT.

WE COULD DO MATCHING FUNDS IF NOTHING ELSE.

SURE.

THIS 1 96 IS JUST, IT'S, IT'S NOT ANY OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND THIS IS JUST CONSULT FEE AND CONSULT SOMETHING ELSE.

CREDIT MATERIALS IN DEVELOPING A STANDALONE WEBPAGE FOR ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.

NOW THAT WEBPAGE IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL GROW INTO BECAUSE WE'LL USE IT TO SELL THE VISION AND THEN WHEN WE BEGIN TO ACTIVATE THE PARK MORE ROBUSTLY THAN WE ALREADY ARE, THAT WEBPAGE WOULD BE THE PLACE THAT PEOPLE GO TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE PARK.

SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE COST OF THE WEB PAGE? UM, IT'S IN THE BALLPARK OF I THINK $28,000.

SO $170 OKAY.

FOR CONSOLE.

AND THEN THERE WAS ABOUT, I THINK ANOTHER 20 FOR PRINTED MATERIALS AND HUNDRED 50.

JUST, I WAS INVOLVED IN THE CAPITAL CAMPAIGN MUCH SMALLER AND THE CONSULTANT HELPED US, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO DONORS.

WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN.

IS THAT, IS THAT PART OF THIS? THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THAT.

UM, THEY'RE HELPING US DEVELOP ALL OF THOSE TOOLS AND FACILITATE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.

UM, THERE IS A POINT WHERE SOMETIMES CONSULTANTS LIKE THIS IS A CONSULTANT HELPING US DEVELOP ALL OF THAT.

BUT WHEN WE REALLY START SITTING DOWN AT THE TABLE WITH PEOPLE, SOMETIMES THERE'S AGREEMENTS THAT THE CONSULTANT GETS A SMALL PORTION OF WHAT THEY BRING IN.

YOU PROBABLY WILL HAVE AFTER THIS IS DEVELOPED.

AND SO THOSE ARE, WE'RE NOT AT THAT LEVEL, BUT THAT IS A CONVERSATION

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SO THE LIKELIHOOD OF POTENTIALLY USE IT, AN EXAMPLE, NONE IN ERROR CAN HAVE A SECTION OF THE PARK BECAUSE THEY'RE SO CLOSE IN PROXIMITY AND THERE'S SUCH A BIG PLAY IN ADDISON TO YOU LET SOME OF THE AIRPORT OCCUPANCIES, GALAXY GALA THE CORNER MM-HMM .

THEY PUT THEIR NAME ON THAT, THAT ELEMENT AND IT WOULD HAVE A TIMEFRAME ASSOCIATED WITH IT WHEN WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME TO WORK SESSIONS WITH YOU ABOUT THIS PART AND THE VISION.

IS THAT THE CONSULTANT? YES SIR.

IT'S THAT COMPANY.

IS IT THE SAME ONE? THEY ARE BRINGING IN A SUB-CONSULTANT BUT THEY ARE THE YES.

AND THEN, UM, WE ALSO HAVE A DRAINAGE ISSUE AT THE BOWL STAGE AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THAT LOWER AREA BY THE WATER GARDENS ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.

UM, WE CAN'T ADDRESS THIS WHEN WE REVAMP THE PARK, BUT ANY IMPROVEMENTS WE MAKE NOW TO DRAINAGE WILL BENEFIT US IN THE FUTURE.

WHEN WE WORK ON THE PARK.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF RAIN, WE FLOOD THE WATER BASINS, WE GET MUD AND DIRT AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PUMPS GO OUT BECAUSE OF IT.

AND IT'S STARTING TO GET REALLY EXPENSIVE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING.

UM, IT'S LOOKING TO US LIKE, AND WE HAVE A CONSULTANT LOOKING AT THIS RIGHT NOW, BUT THE PIPE SIZING THAT ARE IN THOSE DRAINS IS TOO SMALL FOR THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT'S COMING DOWN THE SLOPE AND BEING CARRIED AWAY.

SO WE'D LIKE TO UPSIZE THE PIPING THAT'S IN THAT AREA.

UM, THERE'S ALSO, SO THIS ISN'T GONNA FIX ALL OF THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, BUT IT WOULD FIX THE CONSIDERABLE KIND OF ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE IN THE PARK.

AND IT'S IN THIS CORNER.

AND THEN, UM, THIS MOVES US ON TO OUR ONE TIME REQUEST IN THE RECREATION DIVISION.

AND SO JUST LIKE ON THE PARK SIDE WE HAVE ASSET MANAGEMENT NEEDS THAT WE IDENTIFY.

SO WE'RE DOING THAT AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB.

UM, WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT SOME SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN, UM, THE BEST WAY TO GROW INTO USING THE ATHLETIC CLUB WITH SOME OF THE NEW PROGRAMS THAT WE HEAR PEOPLE WERE LOOKING FOR.

SO TALKING ABOUT ASSET MANAGEMENT NEEDS, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THIS AS PRIORITY NUMBER ONE AND THAT'S TO REPLASTER THE INDOOR POOL.

REPLACE THE STAINLESS STEEL GUT BRAKES THAT ARE AROUND THE EDGE OF THE POOL.

UM, AND WE DID REMOVE A MURAL RECENTLY THAT WAS ON THE WALKING TRACK WHEN WE HAD THAT, UM, WATER PENETRATION ISSUE.

AND SO WE GOT JUST SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO GO BACK IN WITH AN ART PIECE ON THAT WALL.

I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT WALKED THE TRACK ENJOYED THAT KIND OF POP OF COLLAR.

UM, AND SO WE'RE ASKING FOR FUNDS TO COME BACK IN AND ADDRESS THE POOL AND THE GUTTER GATE GRATES AND THEN ADD THE MURAL.

DIDN'T WE JUST REDO THE POOL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO? WE DID REDO THE POOL.

UM, IT WOULD'VE BEEN LIKE SIX YEARS AGO.

AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT SURFACE HOLD UP THAT PLASTER SURFACE.

WHEN THEY DID REDO IT, THEY DIDN'T TAKE IT ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE POOL STRUCTURE.

THEY KIND OF REMOVED A PORTION OR A LAYER OF SURFACING THAT WAS THERE.

WE'VE SEEN THAT BE SUCCESSFUL BEFORE.

ON THIS INSTANCE WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT BE SUCCESSFUL AND SO WE'D LIKE TO COME IN AND REMOVE IT ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE CONCRETE STRUCTURE AND GO BACK IN WITH A CLEAN BRAND NEW PLA SURFACE.

CAN YOU GET, CAN YOU GET US THE DATE THAT THAT WAS REDONE? MM-HMM .

IT, IT VERY WELL COULD HAVE BEEN THAT LONG AGO.

TIME FLIES.

I GET THAT.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE WERE NOT ABLE TO USE THE POOL FOR QUITE SOME TIME 'CAUSE WE WERE REDOING THE POOL SO THAT I HAVEN'T HAD TO REDO MY POOL THAT OFTEN, SO I'M JUST WONDERING SURE.

WHAT WHAT THE DIFFERENT SITUATION IS.

IS THIS POOL INDOOR? IT'S YOUR INDOOR POOL BECAUSE WE DID DO THE OUT OUTDOOR POOL LAST YEAR.

AND DO WE NOT HAVE ANY RECOURSE ON THESE PEOPLE? THERE WAS NO WARRANTY ON THIS WORK OR YOU THINK IT'S BEEN LONGER THAN IT'S OUT WARRANTY.

IT WOULD BE OUT OF WARRANTY.

UM, ONE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE POOL WAS CLOSED FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME FOR THE BUILDING RENOVATION, SO MAYBE IT WAS THAT IT MAY HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, THE SAUNAS WERE CLOSED.

I MEAN WE'VE GONE THROUGH SEVERAL THINGS.

BUT I DO REMEMBER THE POOL BEING REDONE.

THE POOL WAS ABOVE IT.

THE, UH, JACUZZI AREA.

RED, WE REDID THAT AND THAT CLOSED THE AREA.

I REMEMBER THAT.

BUT I'LL, I'LL GO PULL THE DOWNER.

WELL? IS IT DETERIORATING? IS IT JUST NO, THAT WAS JUST REDONE WITH THE RENOVATION AND IT'S IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE.

ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO REDO THE SAUNA AGAIN AS

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AND THEN, UM, WE WOULD ALSO, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OF OUR MEMBERS REACH OUT TO US AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL SAFE IN THE EVENING WALKING FROM THEIR PARKING SPACE INTO THE BUILDING.

UM, THEY'RE CITING THAT THERE'S A LACK OF ILLUMINATION ALONG THE WALK FROM THE PARKING LOT AND ILLUMINATION IN THE COMMUNITY GARDEN.

UM, SO WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL TO ADD LIGHTING ALONG THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND THE EDGES OF THE PARKING AND IN THE COMMUNITY GARDEN.

UM, WE ALSO, IN PUTTING IN THOSE LIGHTS, WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE ROOT SYSTEM OF THE BALD CYPRESS TREES THAT YOU SEE ALONG THE FRONT.

THOSE TREES ACTUALLY ARE CAUSING SOME BIG KIND OF ROOF MAINTENANCE ISSUES FOR GENERAL SERVICES.

THE FINE LITTLE NEEDLES ARE CLOGGING THE ROOF DRAINS.

UM, THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING TO SOME OF THE ROOF DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE BUILDING.

AND IF YOU NOTICE IT IN THIS PHOTO, IT'S STARTING TO KIND OF BECOME VERY CHLOROTIC.

THE BULB CYPRESS TREES ARE, UM, THEY TYPICALLY DON'T LIKE TO GROW IN LIMESTONE SOILS.

AND IF YOU DIG AROUND IN ADDISON, YOU'RE GONNA DIG AROUND ABOUT 18 INCHES AND HIT LIMESTONE.

AND SO WHEN YOU START TO GET A REALLY MATURE CYPRESS TREE THAT HITS THAT LIMESTONE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT START BECOMING CHLORIC AND GOING DOWNHILL.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD PROPOSE AS WE'RE TRENCHING AND PUTTING IN LIGHTS THAT WE WOULD ALSO CONSIDER REPLACING THOSE TREES, UM, WITH AUTUMN LAED MAPLES.

SO WE STILL GET THAT NICE FALL COLOR.

WELL, PRETTY WELL.

I'M ALSO GETTING CALLS AND TALKING TO RESIDENTS ABOUT THEIR UNEASINESS ABOUT BEING AROUND THAT AREA IN THE EVENING AS WELL.

BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LIGHTNING.

IT HAS TO DO WITH A GUY WEARING A A A NINJA AND BLACK OUTFITS WITH A HOODIE ON AND AND CARRYING A STRANGE BAG.

I THINK WE'VE SOLVED.

YEP.

PLEASE.

THAT PROBLEM POLICE HAS INTERACTED WITH HIM AND HAS A SOLUTION FOR HIM ON THAT.

WE DO HAVE YEAH.

GO FOR THAT.

I MEAN, BUT I I HAVE HEARD THAT FROM MANY FEMALE.

HOW LONG YOU NEVER BEEN? YES.

YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CHRIS CHIEF POLICE? UH, YES SIR.

UH, THAT SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL, UM, HAD BEEN AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OFFICER WAS ABLE TO CONNECT WITH HIM, GET HIM CONNECTED SOME SERVICES AND HE HAS SINCE MOVED ON.

UH, BUT THAT'S WHAT OUR OFFICERS DO WHENEVER WE GET, UH, REPORTS.

SO PEOPLE MAYBE ACTING SUSPICIOUSLY, WE GO OUT, UM, WITH NO ACTUAL CRIMES HAVE BEEN COMMITTED, WE ALWAYS SEE, HEY, ARE THE RESOURCES THAT YOU NEED AND WE CAN CONNECT WITH LETTING S CONNECT WITH METROCREST SERVICES.

UM, WAS ABLE TO GET, UM, SOME MONITOR TERM SERVICES THAT HE WAS NEED FROM AND THEN MOVE OUT.

BUT WE ARE ALWAYS EVEN ON IT.

SO SAY EVERYTHING YOU SEE SOMETHING LET US KNOW THAT WE'RE CAN RESPOND TO HIM AND, AND GET IT TAKEN CARE.

BUT BUT WE HAVE RESPONDED TO THE PEOPLE IN A POSITIVE MANNER THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME TO ME AND SAID, WELL THE POLICE SAID HE WASN'T DOING TO WEAR BLACK IS NOT ILLEGAL IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.

SO, AND, AND THAT'S ALL TRUE.

BUT IT GOES BACK TO THAT IF YOU'RE UNEASY, YOU SEE SOMETHING, YOU SAY SOMETHING AND SOMETIMES JUST ENGAGEMENT AND CONTACT HELPS.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE DONE THAT AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT SIR.

ON THIS, UH, ILLUMINATION, SO WE'VE GOT THIS RECESSED LIGHTING UNDERNEATH THE, IN FRONT OF THE ATHLETIC CLUB.

UM, HAVE WE TRIED ANY REPLACE LIKE DIFFERENT TYPE OF BULBS? UM, BETTER, BETTER LOWERING DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE SO THEY CAN DO A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW? I, I DON'T KNOW IF BILL HAS LOOKED AT THAT.

I KNOW WHEN I SPOKE WITH OUR ELECTRICIAN ABOUT IT, HE DIDN'T THINK THAT WE COULD MAKE A CHANGE.

THAT WE COULD MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO ELIMINATE THE WALK BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE.

NO, WE HAVE NOT WELCOME TO THE PARTY.

JUST BRING EVERYBODY OUT, BILL I'LL GENERAL SERVICES.

NO, NO, WE HAVE NOT, BUT WE HAVE, UM, AN INTEREST IN SUPPORTING THAT, THAT PROJECT IN ANY WAY.

I THINK SO.

IT, IT WOULD, UM, TO YOUR POINT, COMMON SENSE APPROACH WOULD BE IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO WITH SOMETHING EXISTING THAT MAKES SOMETHING BETTER RATHER THAN TEARING UP AND PUTTING SOMETHING NEW, TAKING OUT TREES.

IF WE COULD REPLACED IT, IT'S PROBABLY AN LED RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S OUR TYPICAL APPROACH.

BINGO.

THAT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT I DID HAVE WITH OUR ELECTRICIAN 'CAUSE OF THE HEIGHT AND THE DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE WALK.

HE, HE FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE A BIG CHALLENGE TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND IT WOULDN'T FULLY ILLUMINATE THE LOCK.

WHAT KIND OF BOLTS ARE IN THERE? WHAT, WHAT KIND OF ILLUMINATION DO WE HAVE? IS IT LED, IS IT INCANDESCENT? IS IT ALLERGEN? I THINK IT'S EVERYTHING OFF OF THE BUILDING SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS ON, WE CAN FOLLOW UP THOSE.

IS IT LED?

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GOING TO REPLACE FLIGHTS.

WE'LL PUT THAT IN THE FOLLOW UP.

SO WHATEVER YOU'RE ASKING COMMON SENSE QUESTIONS.

UH, CAN WE ASSUME THAT YOU'VE ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT THE COMMON SENSE THINGS OR CAN YOU MAYBE HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE COMMON SENSE THINGS THAT MAYBE WOULD BE OBVIOUS THAT YOU WOULD, SHOULD HAVE ALREADY LOOKED AT THAT YOU OR TELL US IN ADVANCE? YEAH, I COULD HAVE OFFERED THAT WE HAD BROUGHT OUR ELECTRIC.

THAT WOULD HELP.

AND IN TALK THROUGH WHAT THE OPTIONS WOULD BE.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON THE TREES.

SO HOW MANY DO YOU THINK ARE DAMAGED ARE DAMAGING THE BUILDING? REALLY IT IS ANY OF THE BALD CYPRESS THAT ARE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE BUILDING? UM, HONESTLY I THINK THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE ANOTHER FIVE TO 10 YEARS OF THOSE TREES SURVIVING IN THAT AREA.

BUT IT'S THE FACT THAT FROM ANOTHER FIVE TO 10 YEARS THEY'RE GONNA PLUG THE ROOF DRAINS AND CAUSE SOME OF THE ROOF ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD.

SO ARE ARE YOU REPLACING ALL OF THEM? EVERY BOLT, CYPRESS TREE? WHAT'S THAT NUMBER? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THAT IS.

THERE'S ABOUT, I THINK IT'S 10 TO 12 SO THAT'S GONNA MAKE IT LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

WHAT ARE YOU GONNA REPLACE IT WITH AND WHAT SIZE WILL THEY ON TABLE? IT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

UM, OUR LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE IS THAT WE COME IN WITH FOUR INCH TREES BUT WE WERE ACTUALLY CROSSING OUT SIX INCH TREES IN THIS INSTANCE.

BEEN 10 YEARS BEFORE THEY PULL BACK OUT.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU TYPICALLY DO IN THAT SITUATION, BUT I MEAN IT, IT'S GONNA REALLY AFFECT THE LOOK OF THE BUILDING.

IS THERE NO, CAN WE NOT GO LARGER WITH A TREE OR SOMETHING THAT GROWS FASTER OR I, I KNOW THAT GETS EXPENSIVE BUT I'M JUST, OR DO SOMETHING THAT PREVENTS THE TREE FROM HURTING THE BUILDING GUTTER GUARDS OR TRIMMING THEM BACK AWAY FROM THAT BUILDING TO KEEP THAT'SS.

WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS KEEPING THAT SIDE TRIM BACK AND, AND THIS WAS A TIME FOR US TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

IF Y'ALL WANNA KEEP THE TREES, WE, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT TOO.

BUT WE THOUGHT IF WE'RE DOING WORK HERE, I WOULD LOVE TO LOOK AT THAT LIGHTING A LITTLE, LITTLE CLOSER.

IT GOES BACK TO LEAF CARDS AND THERE'S ALL SORTS OF THINGS TO KEEP PINE NEEDLE OUT AND ANY KIND OF NEEDLING OUT.

IT'S HOW BIG IS THE GRID UP, UP, UP, UP THAT HIGH TO DO SOME SORT OF A LEAVE THE CAR COVER VERSUS RIPPING OUT THESE AGAIN MATURE TREES.

THEY'RE ALMOST LEGACY TREES.

THE TREE DIE BEFORE WE TAKE IT OUT.

NO, WE WOULD DEMISE THE TREES ANYWAY OR WOULD JUST, IT'S JUST A TIME TO LOOK AT IT.

NO, WE, WE'LL BE TRENCHING IN THE ROOT ZONE OF THOSE TREES, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE EDGE OF THE ROOT ZONE OF THE TREES.

SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING IT, IT MAY IMPACT THEM SLIGHTLY AND WE CAN MITIGATE THAT.

I COULD TREE HEALTH ANDREY.

IT WAS JUST THE TIME TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION SINCE WE'RE ALREADY DIGGING IN THAT BED.

WHAT DOES SCLEROTIC MEAN? YELLOW.

YELLOW.

SO THEY'RE GETTING, THEY'RE GETTING WEAK OR THEY'RE, THEY'RE SO, BUT YOU THINK AND WE DO APPLY IRON TO THESE TREES AND THEY KIND OF FLUSH UP AND GREEN UP, BUT THE MORE MATURE THEY GET THE, THE SHORTER DEATH DISTANCES BETWEEN TRIVIAL AND IRON.

THEY NEED IT MORE AND MORE OFTEN.

AND WHAT WAS THE TIMEFRAME YOU THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD, UH, GET SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE? WAS IT FIVE YEARS BASED ON THE OTHER TREES THAT ALL CYPRESS TREES IN SIMILAR CONDITIONS IN ADDISON THAT WE TRIED TO SAVE? MY BEST GUESS IS THAT WE'VE GOT FIVE TO 10 YEARS OUT OF THESE TREES.

SO AND, AND TRYING TO SAY THEN WITH THE IRON INJECTION THAT THOSE THINGS THAT THAT'S NOT A HIGH COST OR IT'S NOT A HIGH COST.

IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING OKAY.

I WOULD KEEP IT TOMORROW.

MY, MY SUGGESTION LITTLE BIT, LITTLE BIT MORE OFTEN MAYBE.

THAT'S FINE.

WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING THANK YOU.

THANKS CHAIRMAN.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROXIMATE COST OF REPLACING THOSE TREES IN THIS NUMBER? IT'S ABOUT $1,800 A TREE.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THERE WERE 10 TO 12.

SURE.

20, 25,000.

THAT, THAT'S PLANTING THE TREE THAT THAT'S FINISHED PRODUCT.

IT'S A GOOD TIME TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

I WOULD SAY KEEP THEM FOR A WHILE.

KEEP OKAY.

I WOULD DIRECTION.

THERE'S, THERE'S 96,000.

WE CAN SAY, WAIT A MINUTE NOW WE'RE NOT.

YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE JUST SAYING KEEP THE TREES.

WE'RE NOT SAYING THE OTHER PART.

SO YOU SAID $96,000 WE'RE NOT, WE'D BE CUTTING THE 25,000 OUT OF THAT 96,000.

WE ALSO HAVE GROUPS THAT ARE ASKING FOR MORE AEROBIC STUDIO SPACE AND DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT.

THEY'RE $20,000 OF TRAINING.

$1,800 OF TRAINING.

UM, AND THEN PRIORITY NUMBER THREE IS ONE TO LOOK AT PROGRAMING NEEDS TO ASK AN ATHLETIC CLUB, UM, COMPLETING A STUDY, IT, IT SOUNDS REALLY EASY THAT STAFF COULD DO A SURVEY AND WE COULD IDENTIFY WHAT THE NEEDS ARE.

'CAUSE WE HEAR FROM A LOT OF MEMBERS THAT THEY WANT US TO BRING IN FREE WEIGHTS.

THAT'S PROBABLY LIKE THE NUMBER ONE REQUESTED ITEM THAT WE HEAR.

UM,

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AND THE BIG QUESTION IS, IS WHERE DO WE START TO SPATIALLY ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THAT? SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT HAS VERY UNIQUE NEEDS.

FREE WEIGHT MAKES A LOT OF NOISE.

UM, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY PUT IT AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF YOUR BUILDING.

UM, AND NOT EVERYBODY FEELS COMFORTABLE WALKING THROUGH A FREEWAY AREA TO GET TO THEIR OTHER FITNESS EQUIPMENT.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

UM, AND SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT, UM, THAT WE BRING IN A CONSULTANT.

WE DO A VERY EXTENSIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WITH OUR MEMBERS AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB TO IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THOSE NEEDS THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR IN PROGRAMMING AND THEN COMING UP WITH ARCHITECTURAL SOLUTIONS ON HOW WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT IN OUR EXISTING BUILDING.

UH, SO DID, DIDN'T WE JUST DO THAT WHEN, WHEN WE COMPLETELY REHAB THE BUILDING AND I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ON IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL SPACE, MAYBE WE CAN USE MORE RACQUETBALL COURTS.

AND THERE'S ALSO THAT ROOM IN THE BACK.

UM, I, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AND I KNOW THERE'S REASONS WHY WE DIDN'T WANT TO USE IT, BUT I MEAN, CAN WE CONSIDER THAT ROOM? I KNOW IT'S THE LIFEGUARDS MM-HMM.

LUNCHROOM OR SOMETHING, BUT THERE WERE YEARS AGO WE SAID THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT PLACE FOR, UH, YOGA CLASSES OR STRETCHING CLASSES OR WHATEVER CLASSES WE DO.

SO WE DO STORE A LOT OF POOL EQUIPMENT THERE AND IT IS FOR OUR LIFEGUARDS.

THEY HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK IN THE AIR CONDITIONED SPACE.

UM, IF WE WERE GOING TO USE THAT FOR A CLASS, WE NEED TO PROVIDE THE LIFEGUARDS AND AIR CONDITIONED SPACE WHERE THEY CAN SEE THE POOL.

UM, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WE COULD BUILD, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE A GLASS CUBE UNDER THE, WHERE WE HAVE THE PARTY RENTALS AND STUFF OUT BY THE POOL FOR LIFEGUARDS.

BUT THAT'S PART OF THIS PROCESS IS SOMEBODY WHO UNDERSTANDS BUDGETING AND ARCHITECTURAL CHANGES SO THEY CAN RECOMMEND THE MOST FEASIBLE DECISIONS BECAUSE THE COST OF ADDING AN HVAC ON THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY GOOD IDEA TO ME, BUT I'M NOT A MECHANICAL ENGINEER.

AND THEY MAY COME BACK WITH, THIS IS A BETTER LOCATION BECAUSE IT WON'T COST AS MUCH FOR YOUR AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM.

SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

THAT JUST DOESN'T SOUND COMMON SENSE TO ME.

SO JEN, WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD DO THIS? AND I'M, I DON'T, I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND IT WOULD BE AN ARCHITECTURAL FIRM.

AND ACTUALLY WE WOULD ASK THEM TO INCLUDE THIS AS A APPENDIX INTO OUR MASTER PLAN BECAUSE WE WANT IT TO BE A PART OF THAT DOCUMENT.

BUT THERE ARE ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS THAT SPECIALIZE IN RECREATION FACILITIES AND THAT WOULD BE THE IDEAL PERSON THAT COULD DO THIS.

I SEE.

AND SO THIS IS A PLAN UPDATE.

IT'S NOT A WHOLE REDO OF THE, OF THE ATHLETIC CLUB PLAN? NO, IT'S ADDING AN APPENDIX.

THE, THE ATHLETIC CLUB MASTER PLAN THAT WE HAD REALLY WAS A FACILITIES PLAN THAT KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THE RENOVATION THAT WE NEEDED TO DO.

UM, THE ROOF NEEDED TO BE REPLACED, WE NEED TO REDO THE ELEVATOR.

IT KIND OF IDENTIFIED THOSE THINGS.

BUT EVERYTHING IN THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

SO DO WE HAVE A CURRENT MASTER PLAN OF THE PROGRAMMING AND RECREATION OF THE ATHLETIC CLUB? WE HAVE WHAT'S IDENTIFIED IN THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL ABOUT WHAT WE OFFER FROM A PROGRAMMING STANDPOINT.

UM, AND IT DID MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS VERY HIGH LEVEL ON WHAT WE HEARD FROM OUR USERS, BUT IT DIDN'T TAKE AS DEEP OF A DIVE INTO, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO YOU PUT THE FREEWAYS THAT EVERYBODY'S ASKING FOR? AND THIS IS JUST AN OPTION THAT YOU'RE SAYING WE CAN DO IF WE WANT TO GET THIS INFORMATION.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE INDIRECTLY ASKED FOR.

SO IS THERE, IS THERE ANOTHER OPTION TO DO THIS TO A 60% LEVEL? THAT IS SOMETHING WE DO JUST IN HOUSE SURVEYS AND SUCH LIKE THAT WE CAN DO THE SURVEYS IN HOUSE AND THEN WE COULD COME BACK WITH A, WE'RE JUST GONNA PUT FLUID WEIGHTS IN THE BUILDING.

WE CAN COME BACK WITH A PROJECT AND ENGAGE AN ARCHITECT AND HAVE AN ARCHITECT TELL US WHERE THE FREE BASE NEED TO BE.

SO INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT A MORE HOLISTIC, LIKE, YOU KNOW, FIVE TO 10 YEAR PLAN AND YOU'RE GONNA ADD THESE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS IN, AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, IT WOULD JUST BE HIRING AN ARCHITECT TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS.

AND THAT IS AN APPROACH THAT WE COULD DO.

SO THIS $99,000 IS FOR A CONSULTANT TO TELL US WHERE TO PUT FREE WEIGHTS, OTHER PROGRAMMING TO IDENTIFY WHAT OUR PROGRAMMING NEEDS ARE.

I'M USING FREE WEIGHTS.

WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND WHERE WE NEED TO PUT IT.

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I MEAN, I AGREE WITH THERE IS WE CAN WALK THROUGH THE BUILDING AND SAY, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET HERE, WHAT DO WE PUT HERE? OR WE CAN SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE.

FREE WEIGHTS HAVE A LIABILITY ATTACHED TO THEM.

SOMEBODY DROPS 'EM ON THEMSELVES.

I CAN IT, CAN IT BE MORE THAN JUST THE ATHLETIC CLUB? I MEAN, PROGRAMS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, PROGRAMMING, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

AND, UH, JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

PEOPLE ARE LOVING THE YOGA OVER AT, UH, ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.

I MEAN, IT'S A HUNDRED PLUS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, AND THEN OTHER PEOPLE BROUGHT UP OTHER IDEAS, WHETHER THAT BE A LITTLE BIKING GROUP OR SOMETHING THAT LAUNCHES FROM MADISON ATHLETIC CLUB OR SOMETHING ACROSS THE STREET AT THEY LOST PARK.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST, YES, IT WOULD BE RECREATION PROGRAM.

UM, YEAH, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD, AND I THINK WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST, BUT I'D LOVE TO REVISIT IT, IS, IS PUT OUT SOME TYPE OF SURVEY OR SOMETHING TO OUR COMMUNITY AND, AND SAY, HEY, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT THAT LOVE THE ATHLETIC CLUB, OR WANT TO DO MORE, UH, THROUGH PARKS AND REC, WHAT PROGRAMS DO YOU FEEL NEED TO BE ADDED OR MISSING? SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK WE COULD GET A, SOME JUST GREAT, GREAT IDEAS.

I THINK WE'VE GIVEN HER PRETTY GOOD DIRECTION ON THIS.

I THINK WE CAN GO AND MOVE ON.

WHAT DIRECTION IS THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT OUT.

THE BUDGET.

I GOT IT.

I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T PICK UP ON THANK YOU.

THANK, I DIDN'T NEED TO TAKE IT.

BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT EVERYONE WANTS.

UM, I I THOUGHT WE DID THAT BACK IN WHENEVER IT WAS 16 OR 17 WHEN WE DID THE STUDY.

I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMEONE SAY, WEIGHTS NEED TO GO HERE.

OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, STRETCHING HERE, YOGA HERE.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY NOT WHAT WAS ADOPTED.

THAT, UM, SO WHEN I GOT HERE IN 2017, UH, IT ACTUALLY MORPHED INTO MORE, AND WHEN I SAY A FACILITIES PLAN, I WOULDN'T EVEN SAY IT WAS FACILITIES PLAN.

IT WAS, WE NEED TO REPLACE THE HVAC, WE NEED TO REPLACE THESE WINDOWS.

WE KIND OF TURNED IT INTO WHAT WE DID WHEN WE REPLACED THE HVAC, REDID THE ENTRY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT WE REALLY, AND I, UNFORTUNATELY EIGHT YEARS AGO, MY MINE'S NOT AS SHARP AS IT USED TO BE.

THERE WAS A REASON WHY WE KIND OF VALUE ENGINEER THAT DOWN TO WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY MEANT TO BE.

AND IT WAS ORIGINALLY MEANT TO BE MORE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOUR PROGRAMMING, WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, AND WHERE WE'LL PUT THOSE BE.

AND FOR SOME REASON IT NOT, THE SCOPE WAS REDUCED DRASTICALLY.

SO LET ME ASK THIS, AND I HATE TO ASK THIS QUESTION, BUT DON'T WE HAVE SOMEONE ON STAFF THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M THINKING MAYBE THE DIRECTOR OF THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB THAT IS IN TUNE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY THAT COULD SAY, HERE'S THE HOTTEST THREE THINGS THAT CLUBS ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

THIS ONE'S NOT GONNA WORK.

THESE TWO WILL WORK.

SO LET'S TRY IT RATHER THAN HIRE CONSULTING.

WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD DO A SURVEY AND GET THAT DATA TOO.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO DO IT.

WELL, THEY HAVE TO WORK IN COMBINATION.

THE HEAD OF THE AAC C SHOULD HAVE A PULSE ON YEAH.

WHAT'S GOING ON, ON FITNESS AND WHAT'S GOING ON.

WE JUST MAY NEED TO BRING SOMEBODY, AND I'M SORRY, I KNOW THIS UPSETS YOU.

IMPORTANT WE MOVE.

I HAVE NOT SERIOUSLY, WE NEED, WE NEED TO KEEP MOVING.

WE'RE DONE WITH THIS, PLEASE.

AND THEN, UM, THAT ANYTHING FOR ME? THANK YOU.

OF SECURING, UH, FACILITIES TO INCREASE THE EMPLOYEE SAFETY, UH, THE, UH, COST THERE IS 130,000 AND THESE ARE ADDING CAMERAS AROUND.

SO WE HAD, UM, WE HAD A, WE GOT A LOT OF, UH, REQUESTS FROM OUR DISCUSSION FROM, FROM BECKY AND JANA.

AND WE HAD A, A FEW OTHER REQUESTS THAT, UM, WERE, WERE, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT AS MANY FROM, FROM, UH, SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS.

SO I'LL GO THROUGH THESE AND IF THERE'S SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ONE OF 'EM, I'LL CALL UP THE DIRECTOR OF THAT DEPARTMENT TO ANSWER, UH, ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

BUT, UM, SO WE HAD FOUR OTHER REQUESTS, UH, RELATED TO A ONE TIME REQUEST.

UH, PHASE TWO OF THE TOWN FACILITIES, THREE IMPROVEMENTS, A CONTINUATION OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY GRANT PROGRAM, UH, FIRE TECHNICAL RESCUE HERE, AND THEN, UH, REPAINT OF THE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK BUILDING.

SO, UM, GOING THROUGH, UH, PHASE TWO TOWN FACILITY SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THIS IS CONTINUATION, UH, OF THE, TO IMPLEMENT THE, UH, SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE ADDITION OF THE ACCESS CONTROL SYSTEMS AT COUNTY FACILITIES AND CAMERA INTEGRATION, UH, WITH THE PRIORITY OF THE NEW TOWN HALL AND SERVICE CENTER.

UH, AND WITH THE IDEA THAT HOPEFULLY THESE FUNDS CAN ADDRESS AS MANY, UH, FACILITIES AS POSSIBLE.

BUT, UH, REALLY WITH THAT, WITH THAT MINDSET, AGAIN,

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UH, IT'S NOT JUST CAMERAS, BUT I'M, I'M JUST SAYING, YOU'RE SAYING FOR SECURITY, IT, WOULD IT ALSO BE USED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IF, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT HAPPENED, WILL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE THAT, HAVE ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THAT? UH, BILL HOLLY GENERAL SERVICES, YES, SIR.

WE CAN GET ACCESS TO CERTAIN CAMERAS, BLOCKS OF CAMERAS, UH, DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AT THEIR FACILITIES, ET CETERA.

THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS AND LOOK AT, THERE'S 250 CAMERAS IN THE TOWN NOW.

UM, SOME OF THESE WILL BE TO IMPROVE THOSE CAMERAS, DAYTIME, NIGHTTIME, UM, MAYBE SOME LOCATIONS THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY COVERED.

AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE ABILITIES GOING FORWARD WITH, WITH TECHNOLOGY AND AI WHERE YOU CAN SAY, SHOW ME EVERY TIME I'VE SEEN THIS SPACE AT A FACILITY OR THIS VEHICLE AT A FACILITY.

SO, UM, WE HAVE TO DEVELOP A LOT OF KIND OF RULES ABOUT WHO CAN ACCESS, HOW YOU ACCESS IT, ET CETERA, UM, BEFORE THAT'S IMPLEMENTED.

BUT WE'RE LAYING THE GROUNDWORK TO, TO, UH, MAKE IT MUCH EASIER FOR OUR PEOPLE TO GET IN THE RIGHT PLACES, UH, AND FOR US TO TRACK AND KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND, AND GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE IF SOMETHING DID HAPPEN HOW WE DO.

BUT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WON'T BE A ONE TO GET THIS LIKE THEY WOULD AT A PRIVATE COMPANY.

THAT WOULD BE OUR DATA.

AND THEN ONE, NO, THEY DON'T, NO, THEY DON'T NEED, THEY ALREADY DO THAT WITH OUR PARKS CAMERAS.

AN ISSUE.

SO IT'S SIMILAR.

SAME THING GOES UP ON THERE.

IS IT CONSTANTLY RECORDING? SO BASICALLY THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING HAPPEN AND THEN WE SAY, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND LOOK.

THERE'S NO ONE MONITORING, WE'RE NOT EVEN WATCHING 24 7.

HOW, HOW LONG DOES THOSE RECORDINGS STAY ON THERE? SO IT, IT'LL JUST DEPEND ON, UM, WE'VE GOT LIKE A 30 DAY RIGHT NOW IF IT REWRITES THAT FOR 30 DAYS.

IF WE DECIDE WE WANT TO ADD MORE TERABYTES OF STORAGE.

30 DAYS.

AND THEN, UH, SECOND, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY GRANT FUNDING.

SO, UH, THIS WAS APPROVED IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR BUDGET, OR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET, UM, AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UH, AS A ONE-TIME REQUEST.

SO THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE PROGRAM TO ALLOW STAFF TO AWARD GRANTS TO RESIDENTS FOR MAINTENANCE OR REPAIR OF THE EXISTING, UH, PERIMETER, UM, SCREENING WALLS WITH RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, SO THE IDEA OF THIS PROGRAM WAS TO MONITOR THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

AND MAYBE AT ONE POINT, UH, THIS COULD COME BACK AS A, AS A RECURRING ITEM ONCE WE HAVE A BASELINE AMOUNT OF, OF REQUESTS, UM, AND FUNDING THAT'S NEEDED, UH, FOR THIS PROGRAM.

BUT, UM, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.

SO WE ONLY USED A THOUSAND DOLLARS OUT OF IT, SO WE'VE ONLY USED IT, WE'VE ONLY SPENT A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

RIGHT NOW, I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR.

WE HAVE ONE WALL THAT WAS THE BIGGEST ONE THAT'S A HOPEFULLY ABOUT TO WRAP UP.

UM, LESLIE'S RIGHT THERE SO SHE CAN SPEAK TO IT, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG THIS, UM, LESLIE, I DIRECTOR DEVELOP ANY SERVICES.

SO, UM, WE'RE, WHEN THIS WAS CREATED, WE'RE ACTUALLY STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DISPERSING THAT FUNDS, BUT THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DISPERSING, UM, RIGHT NOW.

'CAUSE THAT LAW'S BEEN COMPLETED AND INSPECTED.

AND IT'S GOOD TO MOVE THROUGH THE, THE DISBURSEMENT PROCESS OF THAT GRANT.

SO, UM, WHEN WE FIRST AWARDED GRANTS, WHICH TOOK PLACE BACK IN, UM, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER OF 24, UM, WE, THE TOTAL PROJECT, UM, COST THAT WAS, UM, THAT WAS ANTICIPATED.

THAT TIME WAS AROUND $85,000 WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS.

AND WE HAD BUDGETED A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS LAST YEAR.

HOWEVER, UM, OUR, THE TOWN'S OBLIGATION OF THAT WOULD BE 80%, SO THAT'S BALLPARK ABOUT $66,000.

UM, BUT WE HAD ESSENTIALLY AWARDED IN POTENTIAL, UM, GRANT FUNDING THAT WAS ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT AS LONG AS THEY FOLLOWED ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PROGRAM THAT WERE SET FORTH.

SO AS, UM, TO NOW WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT, UM, GRANT RECIPIENTS WITHDRAWAL, UM, ONE AROUND DECEMBER JANUARY TIMEFRAME, AND ONE AS RECENTLY AS APRIL.

UM, IT WAS DISCOVERED FOR THAT ONE THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOME STRUCTURAL ISSUES AND IT WAS GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER COST.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ENGINEER.

UM, SO THEY HAD DECIDED TO DEFER THAT THEY MAY COME BACK IN THE FUTURE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT THAT TAKES CARE OF THOSE TWO.

SO NOW WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF FINISHING UP TWO OF THE PROJECTS, UM, WHICH THOSE TWO ACCOUNT FOR A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE GRANTS AWARDED.

AND ARE THOSE TWO, ARE THEY IN THE WORKS? I MEAN, ARE THEY CORRECT.

THROWING BRICKS UP AND, YEAH, SO WE HAVE ONE THAT IS IN THE VERY

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FINAL STAGES.

I HOPE TO HAVE THE FILL FINAL THIS WEEK.

UH, THERE'S SOME OTHER FINISHING TOUCHES THAT NEED TO TAKE PLACE.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, UM, IS I BELIEVE THEY STARTED CONSTRUCTION.

SO IT, BOTH OF THOSE OTHER TWO SHOULD BE DONE THIS FISCAL SCHOOL YEAR.

SO GO AHEAD.

WHO ELSE? I'M INVOLVED IN ONE OF 'EM, AND I PERSONALLY THINK THIS IS A TERRIBLE PROGRAM AND WE SHOULD KILL IT.

I DON'T THINK THAT THE TOWN SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PEOPLE'S INDIVIDUAL WALLS OR HO A'S WALLS.

AND WE GOT ENOUGH OTHER EXPENSES.

AND THIS IS JUST, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE TAKING ON SOMETHING WE SHOULDN'T DO, AND WE'RE GETTING PUSHBACK FROM, I KNOW ONE, ONE RESIDENT WHO'S MAD ABOUT SOME OTHER WALL'S ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE, AND THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR WALLS.

WE PAY FOR HIS TREAT.

I THINK THIS IS A BAD PROGRAM.

MY, I, THIS STARTED BEFORE I GOT ON COUNSEL.

I HAVE HARD TURN OVER, BUT SINCE I HEARD ABOUT IT, I THINK IT SHOULD BE, I'M SORRY.

I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY SO DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, BUT I THINK THIS IS BAD.

WE, WE ARE, WE ARE, THE CITY IS PAYING FOR AN INDIVIDUAL'S PRIVATE WALL.

UM, SO IT'S A RE A REIMBURSEMENT GRANT PROGRAM FOR 80%.

UM, AND THERE ARE CERTAIN CRITERIA, SO IT HAS TO BE A PERIMETER WALL.

AND SO IT HAS TO BE, UM, IT, IT WAS SPECIFICALLY TARGETED TO AFFECT OUR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PERIMETERS OF OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, REMAIN AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.

UM, AND SO IT, THE REQUIRED PROPERTY OWNER TO INVEST 20% PLUS THEIR TIME AND ENERGY, OBVIOUSLY TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS AND REVIEW PROCESS AND ORDER TO, UM, QUALIFY FOR THIS.

SO WE HAD A, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.

IT'S HELPFUL.

WE HAD A, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS AGO, ACTUALLY ABOUT WHEN I GOT ON, THEY COMPLETED, THEY WERE COMPLETING THE STUDY BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION, THE COMMUNITY ABOUT PERIMETER WALLS FOR NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THEY'RE HITTING THAT AGE WHERE WERE STARTING TO DETERIORATE.

WHAT IS THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD FOR THOSE? SO WE STARTED WITH A STUDY THAT LOOKED AT THE, THE WALLS THROUGHOUT TOWN, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM.

AND THERE WAS A VARIETY.

SOME WERE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, SOME WERE HOA RUN, SOME THE TOWN HAD ALREADY TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR.

SO IT WAS A, A LITANY OF DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITIES.

AND THROUGH THAT WE LAID OUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS PER COUNCIL TO SAY, HEY, WE COULD GO IN, WE COULD GO TO THE EXTREME OF GOING IN THERE AND SAYING, WE'RE GONNA GET EASEMENT.

WE'RE GONNA GET THE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY OF ALL THESE WALLS THAT FACE OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT FACE OUT TO THE RIGHT OF WAY.

UM, AND GO TO THAT LEVEL.

OR WE COULD JUST SAY, HEY, IT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

IS THERE A RESPONSIBILITY? WHERE COUNCIL LANDED AT THAT TIME WAS THE, IS PROPOSED THIS GRANT PROGRAM, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO SOME OTHER CITIES.

OUR PERCENTAGE IS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN OTHER CITIES.

UM, BUT IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT THE FIRST CITY TO DO REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAMS FOR FOREVER WALLS LIKE THIS.

SO THAT'S JUST SOME OF THE HISTORY AND WE CAN GET YOU MORE INFORMATION ON AS YOU'RE INTERESTED.

AND IT'S RESIDENTIAL.

I'VE JUST ALWAYS BEEN TOLD THAT IT WAS ILLEGAL FOR CITY TO SPEND MONEY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND IS WHY THEY CAN'T DO PRIVATE STREETS.

I MEAN, FOR 25 YEARS I'VE LIVED IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S A PRIVATE STREET AND THE CITY SAYS NOTHING WE CAN DO BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL.

SO WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE LEGALITY? HAVE, HAVE WE GOT AN LEGAL OPINION THAT THIS LEGAL OF COURSE.

OF COURSE.

SO CAN WE HAVE LIKE A WHOLE WORK SESSION ON THIS? I'D LOVE THAT.

'CAUSE WE SPENT SEVERAL, SEVERAL MEETINGS ON THIS, GOING THROUGH THIS AND LOST THE SAME QUESTIONS.

A LOT OF SAME DEBATE AND IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD TO KIND OF BRING THAT BACK UP.

AND THEN WE FUND IT YEAR BY YEAR, RIGHT? WE FUND IT YEAR BY YEAR.

IT'S A COUNCIL DECISION, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT CAN BE READDRESSED AND, YOU KNOW, DEEP DIVE INTO IT.

I, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION TO SHOW THE EXAMPLE OF WHAT'S BEEN FINISHED.

YEAH, IT WOULD HELP IF YOU SAW THOSE, THOSE PAST VIDEOS, IT WOULD ALSO HELP ME TO KNOW WHAT OTHER WEREN'T HERE.

WE'LL SHOW YOU ALL THAT.

NEED TO TO USE IT AS LONG AS THEY PROVIDED ME.

AND THEN YOU COULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT ALL THE VIDEOS YOURSELF AND BRING YOURSELF UP TO SPEED THERE.

BECAUSE WE ASKED ALL THE QUESTIONS AND WE DOVE INTO IT.

WE SAID, I DON'T REALLY SPEND THIS MUCH MONEY, I DIDN'T WANT TO.

AND, UM, BUT THE, THE END RESULT WAS WE'RE GONNA PUT IN A THOUSAND, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND HERE'S DEVELOPMENT PARAMETERS TO IT, AND THEN WORK THAT PLAN AND THEN WE'LL ADDRESS IT AS WE GO.

THE SAFETY VALVE IS KIND OF THE, THE AMOUNT THAT WE PUT IN THERE IS, IT'S NOT HUNDRED THOUSAND.

SO ONE PERSON, ONE ONE WALL COULD, COULD, COULD DRAIN A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

YOU'RE NOT THE FIRST ONE TO SAY TO SAY THAT I'M ASKING.

SO IT'S IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

UNLESS TO GO THROUGH AN APPROVAL.

DO WE HAVE A LOT OF APPLICATIONS THAT WE COULDN'T APPROVE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS? UH, NO.

SO IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

ALL COMPLETE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED WERE AWARDED.

UM, WE DO HAVE, WHICH WE DIDN'T

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'CAUSE WE HAD ENOUGH FUNDS TO CONTROL ALL OF THE, UM, THOSE THAT SUBMITTED, UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO USE IT, BUT WE DO HAVE A RUBRIC AND WE HAD A SELECTION COMMITTEE THAT HAD VARIOUS DIFFERENT PRIORITIES.

SO THERE WAS CRITERIA AND POINT SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE LIKE A, A BLIND POINT SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE APPLIED TO THE SCORING METRIC TO DETERMINE WHICH GOT OUT, WHICH, UM, APPLICATION GOT SELECTED.

UM, SO THAT'S ALL BEEN DEVELOPED.

UH, THIS WAS THE FIRST YEAR WE IMPLEMENTED IT WAS ADOPTED.

UM, THE PROGRAM WAS ADOPTED FEBRUARY 24 AND IT GOT FUNDED.

UM, SO THAT WAS THE FIRST YEAR.

SO WE WILL, WE DID HAVE, WE DID HAVE APPLICATION WAS A NIGHTMARE.

WE DID HAVE APPLICATIONS COME IN AFTER.

SO THERE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE READY TO REAPPLY.

AND EVEN THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND WE'RE PUTTING, THIS IS STILL A GUESS WE COULD GO LOWER THAN THIS BECAUSE THIS YEAR, THE ONE, THE WALL, THE MAIN WALL WAS SO EXPENSIVE.

I DON'T THINK, KNOCK ON WOOD, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER ONE TO THAT DEGREE.

SO WE MAY NOT NEED A WHOLE HUNDRED THOUSAND NEXT YEAR.

THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN WALLS OR IT WASN'T LIKE EVERY, WELL, CAN I GET A DEFINITION OF A WALL? WE DID, WE DID VIDEO.

DOES IT HAVE TO BE MASON BRICK STUCCO? I DON'T REALLY.

HOW ABOUT A WOOD FENCE THAT GETS ROTTEN AND PULLS OVER? WHAT, WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF A WALL TRYING TO VERBALLY BRING YOU UP TO SPEED? DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SEE IT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME? YES.

SOME OF US, SOME OF US HAVE SAT THROUGH ABOUT TWO HOURS WORTH OF DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATIONS AND ALL KINDS OF FINITE.

I'LL CO-SPONSOR IF YOU WANNA DO THAT.

'CAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AN ENTIRE WORKSTATION.

DO WE NEED TO NEED THAT OR DO Y'ALL BRING THAT? WHAT'S I THINK THERE'S TWO OF YOU ASKING FOR.

AND AND MY HOPE IS THAT WHOEVER WANTS IS NOT UP TO SPEED WITH THIS STUFF.

WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT SOME OF THE PAST INFORMATION.

OH, AND I WILL ABSOLUTELY.

IT WOULD REALLY, I DON'T WANNA REINVENT THE WHEEL, BUT I WANNA SEE WHAT OTHER, IF, IF YOU SAY OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THIS, I'M SURE THEY ARE.

THEY ARE.

I WANT US KIND OF SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE AND SEE JUST GIVING MONEY OR, OR MAKING THEM HAVE SOME KIND OF WE GOT IT.

WE'RE GONNA DO A WORK SESSION ON, LET'S MOVE ON.

ONE REQUEST IN ADVANCE OF THAT, CAN WE HAVE LIKE A LIST OF THE VIDEO, THE MEETINGS, THE VIDEOS WHERE UH, WE CAN GO BACK AND DO RESEARCH IN ADVANCE THAT MIGHT BRING EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED ENOUGH TO HAVE REALLY HAVE SIZE WORK SESSION.

WE'VE GOT THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GET CAUGHT UP IN NEED.

FIRE TECHNICAL RESCUE HERE.

UH, SO THIS IS A TECHNICAL RESCUE HERE.

IT'S A LIGHTER WAY ALTERNATIVE TO STRUCTURAL FIREFIGHTING GEAR FOR NON FIRE INCIDENT.

SO THERE ARE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENTS RESPONDING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, AN ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE ANYTHING RELATED TO A FIRE.

THIS IS A GEAR THAT'S 20 TO 30 POUNDS LIGHTER, UH, NOT AS HOT.

UM, MORE MOBILE.

UM, SO, UM, UH, GEAR THAT, UH, DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT THE THERMAL PROTECTION THROUGH REGULAR FIGHTING FIRE FIGHTER VIEWER, UH, REQUIRES.

AND IT'S, UH, JUST IMPROVED FUNCTIONALITY, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, GETTING PEOPLE OUT OUT OF, UH, VEHICLE EXTRACTION, ACCIDENTS, ELEVATORS, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

COUPLE OF QUESTIONS PLEASE.

COUNCIL, THIS FIRE CHIEF.

YES SIR.

HAS THIS BECOME PRETTY MUCH A INDUSTRY STANDARD NFPA RECOMMENDED REQUIRED.

OUR THIRD CITIES ALREADY HAVE THIS TYPE OF GEAR, RIGHT.

AND OUR QUAD CITIES ALSO.

I HAVE THIS HAVE GEAR, SIR, TELL ME ABOUT THE LIFESPAN AND THE CLEANING CYCLES AND THE MAINTENANCE COSTS.

IT BE, IT'S GONNA BE 10 YEARS, SO IT'LL ALSO HELP OFFSET SOME OF OUR SOCIAL FIREFIGHTING GEAR BECAUSE IT ALSO HAS A 10 YEAR HIGH SPAN AS WELL.

AND, UH, SO IT, WE MANDATED TO CLEAN AND WASH IT AFTER EVERY SINGLE USE.

AND THEN ONCE A YEAR THAT GEAR IS SUPPOSED TO BE SENT OFF TO A PT CLEANING, ALSO GET ANY REPAIRS THAT ARE NEEDED.

SO WE'RE HELPING TO REDUCE SOME OF THOSE COSTS BY UTILIZING THIS AS WELL BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING OUR 10 YEAR LIFESPAN NOT QUITE MAKE IT TO 10 YEARS, OR WE'RE HOPING TO EXPAND IT 10 YEARS BECAUSE THIS YEAR IS ABOUT HOW TO HALF THE COST OF OUR STRUCTURAL FIRE GEAR.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO OFFSET A LITTLE OF THAT MAKE YEAR STRETCH TO ITS 10 YEARS.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUNKER GEAR THAT YOU HAVE TO SEND OFF ONCE A YEAR FOR THE CLEANING? YES SIR.

AND WE DO THAT OUT OF CITY? YES SIR.

DO WE, DO WE NOT HAVE CLEANING EQUIPMENT IN TOWN? WE DO HAVE OUR CLEANING EQUIPMENT IN TOWN.

SO WE DO THAT OUR, AFTER EVERY SINGLE USE, WE DO THAT IN HOUSE CLEANING, BUT THAT DEEP CLEANING THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO SEND OUT.

YES SIR.

WHAT DO WE DO FOR REPLACE, HOW, HOW, WHAT IS THAT TIMEFRAME? WHAT DO WE DO TO REPLACE? SO EVERY 10 YEARS, SO WHERE ARE I? WELL, EVERY YEAR WHEN YOU SEND IT OUT FOR A DEEP CLEAN, THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT LIKE ME SENDING THE SHIRT TO THE CLEANER.

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WHAT, WHAT IS THE TURNAROUND TIME ON THAT AND WHAT DO OUR GUYS DO FOR A YEAR WHILE THAT'S GONE? SO IT'S IN, SO WHEN THEY'RE OFF SHIFT, WE SEND IT OFF.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING 48, UH, NINE SIX SCHEDULE.

SO WHY IT'S GONE, WHY THEY'RE OFF OF WORK FOR THEIR NINE, SIX HOURS FOR BEING MAKE CLEAN COMING BACK SO WE CAN GET IT IN THAT, IN THAT SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

PRIOR TO THEM COMING BACK TO WORK FOR FEW YEARS BACK AT THE STATION RATE FOR THEM TO GO THEIR NEXT TOUR.

WHERE DO WE, WHERE DO WE SEND IN? WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT COMPANIES WHO ARE, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A COMPANY BASED IN TEXAS THAT WE USE.

UH, BUT THEY HAVE LOCATIONS IN CALIFORNIA, UH, ONE IN NEW YORK AS WELL.

SO ARE THERE ANY LOCAL DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT TO DO THE CLEAN LOCAL DEPARTMENTS? YEAH.

UH, THERE PROBABLY IS SOME LOCAL DEPARTMENTS, UH, BUT THEY HAVE TO GO SPECIALTY CHAIN.

BUT THEN, I MEAN, WE SEND PEOPLE IN OTHER, TO OTHER CITIES JAIL.

CAN WE NOT SEND OUR BUNKER GEAR IN OTHER CITY'S FIRE DEPARTMENT BE CLEAN.

EVERYONE HAS TO SEND IT OFF TO GET, UH, THE STITCH WORKS.

SO IF YOU HAVE CUTS, ABRASION, ALL THAT HAS TO SET OFF.

SO THE COMPANY THAT WE DO IT, SO WHEN WE SEND IT TO 'EM, THEY DO THE DEEP CLEANING, THEY ALSO DO THE STITCHING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO NO DEPARTMENT IN THE AREA DOES THAT FINE DETAIL OF WHO THE PATCH WORKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO WE WOULD ALREADY HAVE TO SEND THAT OFF IF YOU FOUND NOTICE THAT? YES SIR.

AND E EACH PERSON WOULD JUST GET ONE SET OR DO WE HAVE ANY RESERVE SETS FOR EVERYBODY HAS TWO SETS THAT THAT'S A TEXAS COMMISSIONER ON OUR TWO SETS OF THIS.

NO, THIS WILL BE ONE SET, CORRECT.

AND ONE SET OF BUNKER YEAR AND ONE SET OF THIS.

TWO SETS OF BUNKER GEAR.

SO WHAT THIS IS REPLACING, UH, WHAT IS THE LIFECYCLE? WHAT YEAR IN THE LIFECYCLE ARE THESE REPLACING? THESE WILL BE REPLACED EVERY 10 YEARS.

JUST LIKE THE BUNKER.

WELL, THE CURRENT ONES THAT YOU HAVE, ARE THEY HALFWAY THROUGH THE LIFECYCLE OR ARE THEY WE HAVE A MULTITUDE OF DIFFERENT THAT'S GREAT.

SO RIGHT NOW, SO WE TRYING TO OFFSET THAT A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE'RE NOT DOING 57 PIECES OF ONE PER YEAR EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

THAT BE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

I JUST REPLACED, UH, WE JUST SET OUR ORDER, UH, FOR SIX SETS AND IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT 30,000.

SO IF YOU STAGGERED ON ON 10 YEARS, IT'S GONNA REPLACE 50% OR SO.

IS WHERE YOU'RE AT.

IF THIS IS NEW YEAR, THIS IS A NEW REGULATION FOR YOU.

THIS WILL BE BRAND NEW.

SO THERE'S NOT, I'M TALKING ABOUT WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO THIS NOW THEY DON'T HAVE LIGHTWEIGHT EQUIPMENT NOW.

THIS WILL BE SOMETHING NEW TO OUR DEPARTMENT, ADDING TO THEIR CAPABILITIES.

YES SIR.

THIS WILL BE BRAND NEW.

ADDING TO THEIR CAPABILITIES.

IT'S NOT REPLACING WHAT THEY'VE GOT.

NO.

SO WOULD WE BE HAVING TO SPEND THIS AMOUNT IN 10 YEARS FROM NOW ALSO? 'CAUSE IT WON'T BE STAGGERED AT THAT POINT.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO DO THIS AGAIN ABOUT 10 YEARS.

SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN BUILD IT INTO OUR BUDGET.

MY PLAN IS TO BUILD IT INTO OUR BUDGET AND SLOWLY, SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, $80,000 OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW.

HOPEFULLY I CAN BUILD THIS INTO OUR BUDGET.

SO IT'S JUST KIND OF A RECURRING THING WITHIN OUR BUDGET EVERY COUPLE YEARS BY A COUPLE HERE AND THERE.

THANK YOU, .

OKAY, LAST ITEM.

UH, ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, PAVILION, PAINT.

SO, UH, THIS IS TO REPAINT THE EXTERIOR METAL, UH, RE UH, AND REPAIR AND STANDING THE WOOD, THE EXTERIOR, UH, PAVILION IS DETERIORATING.

UM, SO, UH, THIS WOULD ALLOW GENERAL SERVICE HAVE TO RESERVE, UH, THE, UH, UH, EXTEND OR, AND EXTEND THE USEFUL LIFE OF THIS, UH, $50,000 ON ONE TIME BASIS.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE? IT'S A PRIORITY.

FOUR.

SO HOW BAD IS IT? IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT BAD .

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

THEY'RE NOT A PRIORITY FIVE.

YEAH, THAT WAS NUMBER FOUR ON MY LIST ITEMS THAT, THAT I SUBMITTED.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WAS, IF THAT WAS NUMBER FOUR IN THIS, IN THIS SLIDE DECK.

NOT, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT REPLACING WOOD, WHOLESALE WOOD DOES NOT, NOT NEED TO IT SURFACE CLEAN, MAKE THE REPAIRS SEALED DUCT.

BUT WE HAD OTHER PRIORITIES IN GENERAL SERVICES THAT, THAT WERE HIGHER.

SO IF YOU SEE OR YOU SEE WOOD, THAT WOOD IS ACTUALLY DETERIORATING.

THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE MORE EXPENSIVE THAT'S GONNA BE.

UM, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER WOOD, THE THE PAINT AS YOU CAN SEE IT IS, IT'S FADED.

THAT'S HIGH PROFILE, SPECIAL EVENTS.

IT'S A LOT OF USE.

IT'S JUST NOT QUITE THERE.

THE HAS SOME, UH, STANDARD.

SO WE GOT PRICE AND I AS A REQUEST TO HAVE DONE IT, IT, IT IS BEYOND OUR CAPABILITIES.

YOU'LL NEED TO LIST.

THERE'S A LOT THAT THAT WILL GO INTO IT.

UM, AND WE, WE HAVE MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS COME OUT AND LOOK AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD PRICE AND PRESERVE THAT ANOTHER DECADE BEFORE WE HAVE TO DO.

SO IS THAT THE WHOLE BUILDING OR JUST THE PAVILION? SO IT'LL BE THE, THE, THE METAL, THE EXTERIOR METAL AND WOOD.

ALL THE WOOD OR JUST SPOT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

SO, UH, POWER WASH IT, IT IS HARD TO SEE IN THAT, BUT YOU SEE A LOT OF KIND OF, UH, SPOTTING MIS ON THAT WOOD.

SO THEY, THEY WILL POWER WASH THAT ALL, THEY WILL REPAIR ANY WOOD THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND IT WILL APPLY STAIN AND SEALANT OVER ALL OF THE WOOD.

JUST WOOD THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

WE'RE

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AND WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ESTIMATE ON TIME? SO, UH, DEPENDS ON WEATHER.

I THINK YOU'RE TALKING A COUPLE WEEKS, BUT WE WOULD SEQUENCE IT SO THAT THE WHOLE PAVILION WASN'T DOWN AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

AND YOU'VE GOT A JOB AT HO YOU KNOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT? YES SIR.

SO THE BUILDING, THE JOB AT HOS IS IN AND, AND THE RESTROOMS AND WHATEVER ELSE IN THAT BUILDING IS, IS THAT GONNA ALL BE ADDRESSED ALSO THE NEXT YEAR? THAT THAT ENTIRE, SO THE WOOD IS MOSTLY ABOVE THE SEATING AREA? SURE.

THERE, SO AGAIN, WE DO THAT IN, IN SEGMENTS AND SECTIONS AND, AND SCHEDULE.

AND SOMETIMES THAT'S WHY TAKES A LITTLE LONGER OR ALSO A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT ANYTIME YOU TRY TO KEEP IT OPEN RIGHT.

WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, IT JUST ADDS, IT ADDS TIME AND CALLS.

WHILE WE'RE ON THAT TOPIC OF THAT STRUCTURE ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME SORT OF IRRIGATION PROBLEM AS WELL WHERE LOOKS LIKE WATER POOLS AND DIRT COLLECTS.

I MEAN, I MEAN, HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU SEEN THAT? OKAY.

UM, IT CLOSE TO THE WATER FOUNTAINS.

EXACTLY, YES SIR.

I'M, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

AND WE WILL TALK AND WORK WITH, WITH JANA AND HER TEAM.

SO THAT'S, AS SHE MENTIONED EARLIER, WHERE THE BUILDINGS STARTS AND STOPS AND WHERE THE, WHERE OUR, OUR TWO DEPARTMENTS CONNECT SO MUCH ON, ON LANDSCAPING AND THE BUILDINGS AND, AND LIGHTINGS AND THINGS.

SO THAT WE, SO WE'LL COORDINATE WITH 'EM AND SEE WHAT'S CAUSING THAT AND HOW WE CAN ADDRESS IT.

UH, THAT IN 2029 WE WOULD SEE A MAXIMUM TAX RATE OF ABOUT 23.45 CENTS.

AND THEN HAVE WE GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO THOSE RESTROOMS? UH, THEY ARE, UM, NOT IN THE BEST SHAPE.

UM, I MEAN, HAVE WE, HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT OUR PLAN IS TO, TO SOME POINT AT SOME POINT A REFRESH? YEAH.

YES, THAT'S A GOOD WORD.

ARE YOU RE RETAINING THOSE AS WHAT NO, SIR.

JUST THE, JUST THE EXTERIOR THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT.

WE CAN BRING THAT BACK.

I JUST, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST WOULD BE, BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF WE'D EVEN GIVEN THAT ANY THOUGHT.

BUT THEY GET A LOT OF USE AND WAS IN THERE NOT TOO LONG AGO.

YEAH, IT'S COME UP IN CONVERSATION THAT WE GOTTA LOOK AT IT, BUT THAT'S ABSOLUTELY GO TO THAT TOMORROW POWER IF I NEED MORE THAN A POWER WASHER COMMON SENSE BEFORE.

AND SO THAT WAS ALL OF THE, UH, ALL OF THE, UH, ONE TIME AND THE CAPITAL REQUESTS.

SO WE HAVE SOME SUMMARY INFORMATION HERE.

SO JUST AS A REMINDER, UH, WE WENT OVER SOME STREETS REQUESTS, UH, THOSE TOTAL, UH, $1 MILLION IN REQUESTS FOR, UH, FISCAL SIX.

SO THERE WAS THE PEDESTRIAN TOOLBOX IMPLEMENTATION, THE, UH, MAINTENANCE OF THE, UH, PAPER AND PAPER REPLACEMENT OUT OF SOME CIRCLE, UH, PARK DISTRICT, UH, THE TREE WALL REFURBISHMENT IN THE CIRCLE PARK DISTRICT, UH, THE, UH, REHABILITATION AND IFICATION ASSESSMENT IN THE CIRCLE PARK DISTRICT AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL STREET REHAB PROGRAM.

SO IN TOTAL, UH, THOSE ITEMS, UH, $1 MILLION, UH, UH, STREET SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND.

AND THEN WE HAD THE, UH, PROJECTS FROM THE SELF-FUNDED, UH, SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND, UM, THE PHASE TWO FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS, UM, MADISON CIRCLE PARK PAVILION, PAINT, NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY GRANT, THE FIRE TECHNICAL S DEER, UH, THE, UH, ASSET MANAGEMENT, THE SITE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

UH, THE CAPITAL CAMPAIGN FOR ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, UH, THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS FOR ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE, UH, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE WAYFIND, UH, WAYFINDING SIGNAGE PLAN, UH, COTTON BELT TRAIL AMENITY ENHANCEMENT, UM, LOST PARK IMPROVEMENT, CELESTE PARK ENTRANCE LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THEN, UH, THE, THE THREE ITEMS FROM THE ATHLETIC CLUB, THE ASSET MANAGEMENT NEEDS, LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS AND PROGRAMMING AND FACILITY RECOMMENDATIONS.

OTHER, THERE WERE SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE MADE TO THESE, UH, BASED ON THE DIRECTION.

UH, BUT THOSE, THAT CAME OUT TO JUST OVER $3 MILLION, AGAIN, FROM THE SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND AND GOING INTO POTENTIAL FUTURE PROJECTS.

SO I KNOW THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, POTENTIAL, UH, YOUTH, UH, POLICE, UH, AND COURT BUILDING AND GOING TO A BOND ELECTION FOR THIS.

UM, SO WE DID HAVE OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR LOOK AT, UH, WHAT, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WAS A $50 MILLION PROJECT, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK, UH, AS FAR AS OUR TAX RATE GOES.

UM, SO, UM, IF WE DID DO A $50 MILLION BOND ON A NEW LEASE FACILITY, UM, TO THE RIGHT, THE FAR RIGHT IS WHAT I SHOWED YOU AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PRESENTATION WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR CURRENT INTEREST IN SINKING TAX RATE, UH, WHERE WE'RE SHOWING THAT, UH, THE MAXIMUM, UH, WE'RE SHOWING RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 18.90 CENTS IN 2028.

AND WE ANTICIPATE, UH, IF WE ADDED $50 MILLION, UM, TO, UH, OUR CURRENT, UH, DEBT PROGRAM,

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SO IT'S ABOUT A 4.50 CENT DIFFERENCE, UH, IN THE TAX RATE, UH, IF, IF, UH, A $50 MILLION BOND WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS FOR A POLICE FACILITY.

SO, WHILE WE'RE THERE, YES, GO AHEAD.

YEAH, STEVEN, ARE YOU SAYING, SO IF WE, IF WE DID THAT NOW, IF WE, IF WE, NOT THAT WE ARE, BUT IF WE WERE THEN THE, THE, THAT THAT TAX RATE WOULD INCREASE OVER THE YEARS, THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S CORRECT.

THE, THE MAX IT GETS TO IS IN THIS 2029 YEAR.

UH, SO THAT'S THE HIGHEST THAT, THAT OUR PROJECTION SHOWS IN GETTING FROM THERE, IT ACTUALLY GOES DOWN BECAUSE WE ANTICIPATE VALUES GROWING.

WE HAVE OTHER DEBT THAT ROLLS OFF.

UH, BUT THAT IS THE MAXIMUM THAT WE SHOW THAT TAX BANK TO, UH, THE 50 MILLION BOND ISSUES.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHERE THE FOUR AND A HALF CENTS IS? I DON'T SEE HAVE ANY, YEAH, IT'S ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 23.45 CENTS AND 18.90 CENTS.

SO APPROXIMATELY FOUR AND A ASSETS.

AND MY QUESTION'S PROBABLY GONNA CALL FOR THE POLICE CHIEF IF HE'S STILL PRESENT.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

COUNCIL, CHRIS, CHIEF? YES SIR.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THIS IS THE THIRD NUMBER I'VE HEARD.

UH, I'VE SEEN ON A NEW POLICE STATION BACK IN MAY.

I WAS HERE IN 34, 30 5 MILLION AFTER MY ELECTION AND I WAS JUST IN THE CROWD BEFORE I WAS SWORN IN.

YOU BROUGHT A 70 OR $75 MILLION PRICE TAG INTO THIS ROOM AND NOW I'M SEEING 50.

WHAT, WHAT'S HE GONNA BE? I MEAN, WHERE ARE WE COMING UP? I'LL, I'LL JUMP IN ON THAT.

SO I MEAN, FROM THE FIRST NUMBER TO THE SECOND IN THAT WORK SECTION, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THAT ITERATED AND HOW WE GOT TO THAT RANGE AND THE RANGE THAT WE PRESENTED WITH 50 TO $70 MILLION.

SO, I MEAN, I THINK IF YOU GO BACK AND WATCH THE WORK WE TALKED ABOUT, I'LL WATCH THAT.

YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE COST INCREASED.

70 STUCK IN MY MIND, RIGHT? YEAH, IT, SO $50 MILLION WAS TO DO WITH SCOPE.

70 MILLION INCLUDED ADDITIONAL SCOPE LIKE THE, THE GUN RANGE, SHOOTING RANGE AND GYM AND EVERYTHING.

ALWAYS GOING TO BE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ROAD IMPROVEMENT.

BOY THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

HE ANSWERED THE QUESTION, I APOLOGIZE FOR PULLING YOU UP AND HE SAID SOME THINGS WOULD FALL OFF, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THINGS KEEP GETTING ADDED TOO.

SO RYAN, IT'S ALMOST, WELL WE DO HAVE, SO FOR INSTANCE, 2028, WE HAVE SOME DEBT THAT FALLS OFF.

SO WITH OUR CURRENT PROJECTION, WE SHOW A DECREASE IN, IN THE TAX RATE AS WE GET A LITTLE BIT FURTHER I BELIEVE 20 32, 20 33, WE START TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT DECREASES.

UH, 'CAUSE WE HAVE DEBT THAT IS FULLY MATURED AND IT FALLS OFF OF, UH, OUR DEBT SERVICE SCHEDULE AND OPENS UP ADDITIONAL ON, WE HAVE EACH YEAR'S BUDGET ADDING MORE TO THE DEBT, AREN'T WE? NOT NECESSARILY.

FOR INSTANCE, THIS YEAR WE'RE WITH THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WE'RE NOT ISSUING ANY DEBT.

UM, WE HAD THAT PROJECTED FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

UM, WE HAVE SOME, I THINK I MENTIONED SOME IN 2027 POTENTIALLY.

UM, BUT NOT REALLY WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE RIGHT COLUMN IS THERE'S OTHER THINGS, BUT IN ESSENCE IT'S JUST YOU'RE SEEING THE IMPACT OF THE FINAL PROJECT FROM THE 2019 BOND ELECTION.

YOU'RE SEEING CORN AND MOPPER HIT AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE IT START TO DROP ON THE RIGHT SIDE AFTER THAT.

'CAUSE NOW WE'VE FULLY LOADED THE 2019 BOMB PROGRAM SO IT STARTS TO DROP OFF.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE TIME IF YOU WERE, IF YOU WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT ANOTHER BOND ELECTION, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME IF YOU WANTED TO DO IT RIGHT, AS YOU START TO ANTICIPATE THAT.

UM, BUT UNDERSTANDING THIS IS THE REALITY.

THAT'S WHY WE WOULD SAY IF WE'RE GONNA DO A BOND ELECTION INSTEAD OF DOING A BOND ELECTION THAT HAS THREE DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS AND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS DOING ONE THAT'S SOLELY ON THE POLICE STATION AND WAIT A FEW YEARS FOR ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO DO FOR ANOTHER BOND ELECTION, BECAUSE IT IS REALITY THAT WE'RE STILL INCREASING FROM 2019.

SO I DON'T THINK WE WOULD WANT TO DO A HUGE BOND PROGRAM RIGHT THEN, BUT HAVE ONE THAT'S REALLY SPECIFIC TO JUST A POLICE STATION.

WHEN YOU SAY HUGE, CAN YOU GIVE, KIND OF GIVE US AN IDEA OF HOW MANY MILLION? YEAH, IF YOU 20 19 50 IS NOT HUGE IF YOU JUST GO QUICKLY TO THE NEXT NO, I KNOW IT'S NOT, NOT RELATIVE TO WHAT HE'S REFERRING.

YEAH, IF YOU GO QUICKLY TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YEAH.

SO WE HAVE, THESE ARE POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT MAY BE IN A FUTURE BOND ELECTION, WHICH IS WHAT THEY IS REFERRING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, IN A FEW YEARS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, JENNA MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, A TOWNS PORTION FOR THE CIRCLE PARK VISION PLAN IMPLEMENTATION OR YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS TRAILS MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2021.

UH, LOTS OF LOTS OF TRAILS PROJECTS RELATED TO THAT THAT AREN'T FULLY FUNDED.

UH, THERE'S

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SO WE BE TAKING, UH, SOME, UH, SOME OF THE DATA FROM THE, UH, ROADWAY ASSESSMENT AND THERE'S ANY MAJOR RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE ADDED.

YOU, WE ADD SOME CIRCLE PARK, BRICK PAVER, FULL REPLACEMENT THAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER, MAYBE IMPROVEMENTS TO FORM PARK, THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, UH, LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENT.

SO WE HAVE THE TOD COMING UP, WHICH HOPEFULLY WITH A TAX INCREMENT INVESTMENT ZONE, A LOT OF THAT FUNDING CAN COME FROM THAT.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IS STILL A, A TOWN PROJECT, UH, DOG PARK SCHOOL, DOG PARK, BECKER PARK.

SO LOTS OF OTHER THINGS THAT MAY COME UP, UH, IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS AS WELL.

BUT THAT'S JUST SOME EXAMPLE OF THINGS THAT IT COULD BE ON A FUTURE, UH, ONE ELECTION COUNCIL BACK BACK ON 71 PLEASE.

SO THERE WILL BE FAR MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS NEW POLICE FACILITY IN THE FUTURE.

THI THIS IS NOT US SAYING, YEAH, GO AHEAD WITH $50 MILLION TONIGHT, RIGHT? NO, NOT A BOND.

ACTUALLY THAT IS NOT, NOT TODAY, BUT I, WE DO NEED TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE PRETTY SOON WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT SO FAR DIRECTION HAS BEEN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

SO WE NEED TO GET AN ACTION TO FORM A BOND COMMITTEE OVER THE SUMMER AND OR START TO FORM BOND COMMITTEE OVER THE SUMMER IF WE'RE GONNA SHOOT FOR SAY, A MAY 26TH ELECTION.

I MEAN, WE DO HAVE TO START GOING.

SO NO, WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU RIGHT NOW TO STAMP IT, BUT WE NEED YOU TO START REALLY THINKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING RELATIVELY SOON THAT WE WITH OTHER OPTIONS, RIGHT, WILL BE BASED ON THE BOND COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO WHAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS WILL ALL GET FLUSHED OUT BY THAT LAW COMMITTEE.

GO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL ON WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, THAT WOULD GO FORWARD TO VOTERS.

UM, AND THEN COUNCIL ULTIMATELY IS CALLING .

SO, WELL WHAT I'M REFERRING TO IS LOCATION, WHERE IT'S GONNA BE WHAT IT'S GONNA BE AND THAT'S WHAT THE, ANY DEEP DIVE EVERYBODY'S INPUT RESIDENCE PROFESSIONALS, MR. LONG AS I'M NOT SAYING GO AHEAD TONIGHT.

I'M GOOD.

HOW MUCH OF OUR TAX RATE IS DEBT? UH, WELL, SO ABOUT 17 CENTS.

SO 17 CENTS IS OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE THIS YEAR.

OH, IT'S RIGHT UP HERE.

RIGHT UP THERE.

WE ARE, WE'RE JUST UNDER 61 CENTS IN TOTAL.

SO 17 OF THAT 61 CENTS IS GOING TO FUND, UH, THE DEBT SERVICE.

UH, NOW UNIQUELY ADDISON, WE DO SET ASIDE SOME FUNDS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT.

THOSE ARE ABOUT 3 CENTS TOTAL.

AND THEN REMAIN IS, IS THAT FOR A CONVERSATION IF WE UH, ALLOCATE THAT DIFFERENT, HOW BIG A DEAL IS, IS, I MEAN WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, OKAY, I MEAN BECAUSE, UH, OF SALES TAX, WE COULD CHANGE HOW WE DO.

ARE YOU, THIS WEEK 30, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND YES.

YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE, I MEAN, HOW, HOW WE, HOW WE CATEGORIZE IT BECAUSE OUR, THE WAY WE, WE STRUCTURE, THE WAY WE FUND THINGS IS, UH, FARMERS RANCH DOES EV DIFFERENTLY COMES OUT SALES TAX, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF THEIR TAX RATE.

THAT'S WHY THEIR TAX RATE LEVEL, RIGHT? THEY'RE PROBABLY, SO THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT FOR THE WHOLE, FOR ALL OF US TO KNOW.

WILL GO BACK TO, UM, ITEM NUMBER THREE, CLOSED MEETING THREE A, UH, PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0 7 1, SECTION TWO TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE POWERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL UNDER SECTION 2.08 OF THE CITY CHARTER.

ON, ON JULY 22ND WE'RE DOING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRESENTATION AND WE'LL BE HAVING THAT EXACT CONVERSATION.

I JUST BIGGER THAN OUT ANYTHING ELSE, STEVEN? THAT WAS IT.

SO IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY, GET ANSWERED.

WE WILL, UH, HELP, HELP THE PERSON OUT HERE CAN QUICK AND EASY.

ALRIGHT, THANKS STEVEN.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND THANKS.

UH, THANKS EVERYBODY.

ALRIGHT, SO WE

[3. Closed Meeting. The Addison City Council will enter a Closed Meeting pursuant to Texas Government Code Sections 551-071 through 090 to discuss the following item(s):]

AND IT'S 9 0 3, LET'S GO.

AND, OKAY, IT IS 10:01 PM WE ARE COMING OUT OF CLOSED SESSION.

THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN FROM THAT CLOSED SESSION.

SO WE WILL COME IN INTO OPEN SESSION, UH, AT THIS TIME.

AND OUR FINAL

[6. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.]

ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM SIX, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.

UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING, ANY EXPRESSIONS? THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE, ET CETERA.

MAYOR.

I DO HERE.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE NOTICED, AND I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR SOME TIME DURING COVID ALSO, AND COVID HIT EVERYTHING KIND OF CAME TO A, A STOP, A PAUSE, UM, AND WE KIND OF HAD TO WAIT, UH, SOME TIME FOR THINGS TO GET BACK INTO DEVELOPMENT AND SO FORTH.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M SEEING MORE AND MORE OF, UH, OF LAKE IS ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE CONSTRUCTION, THE RENOVATION.

I'M SEEING IT WESTWOOD SCHOOL, GREEN HILL, GREEN HILL, GREEN HILL SCHOOL.

UM, I'M SEEING RENOVATION OCCURRING AT THE OLD CROWN PLAZA PROPERTY.

I'M

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JUST SEEING A LOT, A LOT MORE OCCURRING.

YOU AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THINGS ARE ACCELERATING IN A GREAT WAY.

AND, UM, I JUST, I JUST WANT TO KEEP THIS MOMENTUM, BUT I'M, I'M, I'M SUPER PLEASED WITH, WITH, WITH WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SEEING THROUGHOUT TOWN, NOT JUST ONE PART OF TOWN, BUT THROUGHOUT TOWN.

THANK YOU MARK.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING I WANTED TO SAY? I REALLY APPRECIATE DAVID GAINES GETTING THAT .

I THINK WE NEEDED THAT.

I THINK IT'S SAFE AND I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT AND I'M GLAD IT'S DONE AND IT'S ABOUT THIS.

SO GOOD.