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IT IS FIVE 30 AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL AT 5:30 PM ON MAY 6TH.
AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT WITH ALL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING FOR THIS WORK SESSION MEETING.
AND AS ALWAYS, WE WOULD LIKE TO START A MEETING WITH THE PLEDGE OF BOTH OF OUR FLAGS.
IF YOU PLEASE RISE AS YOU RIGHT.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
FOR HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY THIS EVENING.
UH, WE'LL GO TRY IT RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER
[a. Present and discuss the Police Department's new building project, including space needs, costs, and related challenges.]
THREE ON WORK SESSION REPORTS.THREE A PRESENT AND DISCUSS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S NEW BUILDING PROJECT INCLUDING SPACE NEEDS, COSTS AND RELATED CHALLENGES.
EXCUSE CHIEF FREEZE GETTING ME SIR.
UH, GETTING MAYOR AND COUNSEL CHRISTOPHER, CHIEF OF POLICE.
UH, TODAY WE'LL GONNA UPDATE ON NEW POLICE STATION, UM, NAVIGATING, UH, STACY COSTS.
AND SO TO START OFF, TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, UH, 2019 LPA WAS ENGAGED IN, UH, CURRENT FACILITIES TO PROVIDE CONCEPT TO MAXIMIZE, UH, USE OF EXISTING, UH, FACILITIES AND PLAN FOR GROWTH FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
IN 2020, THOSE FUNDING PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO CONTINUE THE STUDY IN THE SECOND PHASE 2022.
THOSE, UH, FINDINGS WERE PRESENTED ALONG WITH THREE OPTIONS TO THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER RENOVATING EXISTING FACILITIES TO BUILD NEW FACILITIES AND LOOK AT REQUIREMENTS FOR A NEW CITY CENTER.
LATER THAT YEAR, UH, COUNCIL REVISITED THE 23 FINDINGS.
UM, THE CONSENSUS WAS TO FURTHER INVESTIGATE THE FEASIBILITY AND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE NEW FEBRUARY, 2024.
COUNSEL HELD IT ANGEL STRATEGIC PLANNING REGISTRY, UH, AND IDENTIFIED ADDRESS COUNTY FACILITIES INCLUDING, UH, PROCEEDING WITH CONSIDERATION FOR CLAIM FOR CLAIM FOR LEA AND COURT FACILITY AS A STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE.
SO MAY OF 28, 20 24, UH, DOWN STAFF PRESENTED A PROPOSED FACILITY STRATEGY, UH, BASED ON A NUMBER OF FACTORS.
UH, PROPOSED RENOVATION, UH, REPURPOSING THE CONFERENCE CENTER CONSTRUCTION OF NEW POLICE, UH, COURTS FACILITY AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SERVICE CENTER.
UH, THE COUNCIL APPROVED MOVING FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION AND NEW POLICE AND COURTS FACILITY ADOPTING MDIS, UH, RECOMMENDED 35 MILLION CONSTRUCTION COSTS FUNDING THROUGH COS.
AND THOSE INITIAL COST ASSESSMENTS WERE BASED ON THE FOLLOWING 45,000 PER ROW SQUARE FOOT FACILITY.
IT DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY STAFF RELOCATION.
IT DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, UH, REBUILDING THE CURRENT RANGE AND ALSO LOOKED AT REBUILDING ON THE CURRENT CELL.
SO SIX MONTHS LATER, UH, WITH THE
THEY ALSO LOOKED AT EVALUATING CONSTRUCTION OPTIONS, UM, AND ALSO PROVIDED A VERY, VERY ROUGH CONSTRUCTION COST.
SO BASED ON THAT, THEY RECOMMENDED A TOTAL SPACE OF APPROXIMATELY SEVEN 4,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND, BUT THAT INCLUDES A NEW DRUG SUPPORT BUILDING, SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE PREVIOUS STUDY, HOW THEY GOT TO THIS.
AND THEN HE RESPONDED WITH, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT COURT'S LEADERSHIP TO DETERMINE CURRENT SPACE NEEDS AND FUTURE GROWTH BASED ON STAFFING, PROJECTIONS AND OPERATIONS.
THEY TOURED 15 OTHER LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT SITES, LOOKED AT BEST PRACTICES AND LOOKED AT, UM, UH, FACILITIES TO LOOK AT THAT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE MDI 45,000 SQUARE FOOT, THE BASE, UH, GFF AND EAST SPACE ASSESSMENT ADDED ABOUT 51,000 SQUARE FOOT.
BUT THEN THE COUNTY, THAT ADDITIONAL SUPPORT BUILDING THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE
SO THIS IS JUST A VERY HIGH VIEW OVERARCHING CONCEPT, WHAT IT LOOK LIKE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE IN THAT ADDITIONAL, UH, BUILDING FOR, TO SUPPORT A LOT OF STORAGE IN THE, UH, MEMBRANES WILL LOCATED FLOOR CONCEPT.
SO I DON'T NEED TO TELL ANYBODY HERE WHY NEW PD IS BILLING IS NEEDED.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT NAUM.
WE'VE MADE SEVERAL UPDATES, UH, BUT IT'S CONTINUED MAINTENANCE IS NO LONGER FEASIBLE.
UH, WE'VE EXCEEDED OUR CURRENT SPACE AND WE HAVE NO ROOM FOR EXPANSION AND FOR FUTURE GROWTH, UH, IT'S NOT A DA COMPLIANT AND GIVEN THE STATE OF THE CURRENT BUILDING, WE'RE NOT AS COMPARED TO THE MARKET TO
SO LOOKING AT THE EXISTING GUN RANGE, THE EXISTING GUN RANGE IS ONLY SIX LANES
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FOR 25 YARDS.WHEN THAT BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED OVER 40 YEARS AGO, THAT WAS THE STANDARD.
UH, YOU HAD A QUALIFIED PISTOLS AFTER 25 YARDS.
NOW YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY WITH RIFLES AT 50 YARD.
SO ANYTIME WE DO RIFLE TRAINING, WE HAVE NEW EMPLOYEES, WE HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE AND RENT ARRANGE OR TRY TO GET OUR CARROLLTON SCHEDULE TO USE THAT FACILITY.
IT'S TOO SMALL TO ACCOMMODATE JUST OUR CURRENT SIZE, NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHENEVER WE GOT IN SERVICE TRAINING.
WE HAVE TO HOLD MULTIPLE DAYS BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY FIT SO MANY OFFICERS AT ONE TIME.
UH, THE TARGET CARRIES A LITTLE TRACK, THEY'RE ANTIQUATED TECHNOLOGIES.
TECHNOLOGY'S NO LONGER IN USE.
UH, THE HVAC WAS, UM, REPLACED IN 2020
SO LOOKING AT SOME OF THE, UH, CHALLENGES FROM THE EXISTING SITE, IT IS LOCATED ON YOUR PROPERTY.
SO ANYTHING YOU DO WITH THAT IS GONNA REQUIRE FAA APPROVAL.
EXPANDING ON POTENTIAL, UH, AIRPORT PROPERTY THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE IS ALSO GONNA, UH, REQUIRE FOR THE APPROVAL THAT CAN COME IN A COST.
ALSO CONSTRUCTION ON THE UH, CURRENT SIDE JUST MIGHT NOT BE, BE FEASIBLE WITH THE WAY THAT IT'S LAID OUT.
JUST LOOKING AT HIGH VIEW OF IF WE COULD EXPAND, WHAT COULD WE POSSIBLY LOOKING DOWN.
SO GOING FOR THE, THE COST ANALYSIS OF WHAT WAS DONE BACK IN 2022.
BASED ON THAT TO NOW, THE BIGGEST THING TO LOOK AT IS JUST THE COST PER SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR, FOR CONSTRUCTION BACK IN 2022 WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, IT WAS ROUGHLY ABOUT $760, $770 A SQUARE FOOT.
IT'S ALREADY UP TO NINE, ALMOST $975 A SQUARE FOOT.
UM, UPDATING THE FURNITURE FIXTURES EQUIPMENT.
THE ORIGINAL ASSESSMENT DIDN'T ACQUIRE THE POTENTIAL FOR RELOCATION, ADDITIONAL LAND OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE TO PURCHASE THAT.
SO BRINGING ALL OF THAT IN, UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S GONNA INCREASE THE COST.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR NOW IS JUST DIRECTIONS.
SO WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE TOTAL COST IS GONNA BE, BUT WE'RE CONFIDENT THIS GONNA BE MORE THAN THAT ORIGINAL $35 MILLION.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WOULD COUNCIL PREFER TO PLAN FOR A BOND ELECTION TO INCLUDE THIS PROJECT INSTEAD OF ASU A SEAL? SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER A BOND ELECTION WILL EXTEND THE TIMELINE AND BUILDING REMAINS IN CRIMINAL CRITICAL CONDITION.
THIS SCENARIO WILL PREPARE PLANS TO ADDRESS URGENT CONCERNS IN A FISCALLY APPROVED MANNER, UH, GIVEN INCREASED COST AND ADDED COMPLEXITY.
INPUT SUPPORT, UH, BOND COMMITTEE WE FILLED WILL BE VERY, VERY VALUABLE IF COUNSEL ELECTED TO GO AHEAD WITH THE BOND.
THE NEXT STEPS, WE WOULD UM, PURSUE A BOND PROGRAM IN 22 6 FORM THE COMMITTEE IN 2025 TO REVIEW PROPOSED FACILITY OPTIONS, COSTS, AND PRIME RECOMMENDATION OF COUNCIL PRESENT PLANS FOR A BOND COMMITTEE SOON FOR BOND, BE FOR FURTHER OTHER POTENTIAL PROJECTS FOR CONSIDERATION.
WHILE DOING THAT, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE FNA TO LOOK AT ANY, UH, OVERCOMING THE CHALLENGES FROM THE EXISTING SITE.
WE'LL ALSO LOOKING AT POTENTIAL SIDES AROUND TOWN THAT COULD BE SUITABLE AS WELL.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A QUESTION.
I'LL JUST, IF I JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT, UM, BEFORE WE GET INTO DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, THE $35 MILLION WAS, WAS VERY HOPEFUL.
WE WERE HOPING THAT WE COULD GET IT AT $35 MILLION, BUT IT REALLY WAS A BEST CASE SCENARIO.
THE 35 MILLION WOULD'VE WORKED IF WE COULD HAVE BUILT A NEW STATION IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE CURRENT STATION, CONTINUED OPERATIONS IN THE CURRENT STATION WHILE BUILDING THROUGH THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.
WE REALIZED THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE, THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
SO EITHER WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER LOCATION OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE MOBILIZATION COSTS TO MOVE FOLKS AS WE KNOCK DOWN THE CURRENT BUILDING.
SO THAT'S ADDED COST PLUS INFLATION.
BRINGS US TO DISCUSSION TODAY.
THERE'S A RANGE THAT THERE'S A GOOD DISCUSSION TO BE HAD ON THE GUN RANGE.
THE SUPPORT BUILDING, WE KNOW AT THE MINIMUM IT'S GONNA BE OVER 35.
SO THAT REALLY IS THE DECISION POINT FOR US TODAY IS WHAT DIRECTION DO WE HEAD, DO WE CONTINUE ON THE PATH OF COS DO WE LOOK AT A BOND ELECTION? AND THEN BASED ON THAT DECISION WE CAN DISCUSS NEXT STEPS.
SO, SO WE'RE EXPECTING POSSIBILITY OF BEING DOUBLE OF WHAT WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT.
WELL, THE DOUBLE, THE DOUBLE WOULDN'T BE AN EXPANDED SCOPE, RIGHT? THE DOUBLE WOULD BE WE'RE GONNA DO A GUN RANGE, WE'RE GONNA DO A SUPPORT BUILDING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN ORIGINAL.
THE ORIGINAL SCOPE, IF WE WANTED TO GO WITH THE SCOPE THAT WE HAD, THAT'S WHAT THAT $50 MILLION NUMBER WAS.
WE'RE SAYING, HEY, IF WE WENT WITH THAT BASIC SCOPE, WE THINK IT WOULD BE MORE LIKE 50 MILLION WITH THE VARIABLES WE TALKED ABOUT THAN 35.
I THINK THE ADDED SCOPE IS WORTH WORTHY OF DISCUSSION AND, AND CONTINUING THAT DISCUSSION.
BUT REALLY WE'RE JUST BRINGING IT UP NOW TO SAY HERE'S THE RANGE THAT COULD BE BASED ON THAT DISCUSSION.
'CAUSE THAT WAS BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL PLAN DID NOT INCLUDE THE GUN RANGE.
NO, AND THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE FOR A LONG TIME THAT I RECALL.
AND THIS AND YOU MENTIONED THE HVAC WAS REPLACED FOR SAFETY CONCERNS.
WAS IT ABOUT THE DIRT THERE? YEAH, IT WASN'T APPROPRIATELY GETTING A LEAD OUT HERE.
UM, SO WE ACTUALLY HAD OUR OFFICERS GET TESTED AND EVERYTHING.
UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S JUST, IT'S AN OLD RANGE AND LIKE DAVID SAID, THE ORIGINAL PLANS
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INCLUDED NOT TOUCHING THAT.UM, SO NOW THAT WE'VE EXPANDED THAT SCOPE, NEED HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
WHO HAS FIRST QUESTIONS? MARLON, JUMP REAL QUICK HERE.
SO AS LONG AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RANGE, SO WE'VE GOT A RANGE, UM, MAYBE IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT IF WE BUILT A NEW FACILITY WITHOUT A RANGE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU ALL? UH, FROM TIME WISE, EXPENSE WISE, JUST ROUGHLY.
SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? YES, SIR.
SO RIGHT NOW WE KNOW YOU SOME TRAINING RANGE.
UH, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, IF WE ANYTHING RIFLES, WHICH IS MANDATED BY
SO NOW WE'RE AT THE
WE CAN'T TRAIN, WE NEED TO, WE GOTTA TRAIN ON THEIR TIMELINE.
UM, AND ALSO WE ONLY FIT SO MANY PEOPLE ON TIME.
SO IT EXTENDS OUR TRAINING DAYS, INCREASED OVERTIME COSTS.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS LOOKING AT WHERE WE'RE AT AND THEN LOOKING AT THE, THE MODEL OF MAYBE THE CONCEPTUAL MODEL.
IT, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS A, A PRETTY BIG INCREASE IN THE PARKING.
I WAS I WRONG ON THAT? I, I DOUBLE OR MORE? YES SIR.
SO IF THEY HAVING THE COURTS THERE, WE HAD TO HAVE ADEQUATE FINDING.
UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S FUTURE GROWTH.
MAYBE HAVE OF PEOPLE COMING IN VISITORS OR LEGAL COURT, UM, ACCOUNT FOR PARKING FOR ALL OF THAT.
UM, 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE LOT OF SPACE.
SO HYPOTHETICAL, FAST FORWARD, EVERYONE'S MOVED OUT OF THAT SPACE.
WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT BUILDING AND THAT LAND WITH THE TOWN OWNERS? IF SO, HOW DOES THAT RECOVER COSTS ON THE NEW BUILDING? SO IF WE WERE, SO THAT, THAT, THAT IS ON AIRPORT PROPERTY, SO IF WE WERE TO FIND ANOTHER LOCATION AND MOVE OFF IT, IT WOULD, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY GO TO THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE FOR THE AIRPORT.
SO IT WOULD BE FOR AIRPORT USE UNLESS THERE IS SOME OTHER REASON FOR IT TO BE OF TOWN USE, BUT IT WOULD REVERT TO STRICTLY AIRPORT USE.
SO DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED VALUE ON WHAT THAT LAND USE COST IN TOTAL WOULD BE AS A PARCEL? WE HAVE AN IDEA OF MONETARY VALUE, HAVE A NUMBER.
LOOK AT THAT AS COST 75 9 BUILDING IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS THESE ARE $29 PARCELS A $9 PARCEL? NO, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THAT MUCH.
BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THERE REALLY ARE DIFFERENT FUNDS BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE AIRPORT AND THE AIRPORT FUND.
AND THIS WOULD COME FROM GENERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO IT IS, IT'S A RELEVANT QUESTION, BUT IT'S NOT, I WOULDN'T THINK OF ABOUT AS COST RECOVERY FOR THIS PROJECT GETS BULLDOZED.
IS IT HANGER SPACE FOR LOOKING TO IDEALLY USE THAT TO BECOME IN THE FUTURE? OR HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO 2050? FORTUNATELY WE HAVE AN AIRPORT MASTER PLAN PROCESS RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN IS DISCUSSING IS SITES LIKE THAT.
SO IT COULD BE THAT IT COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE WE JUST WOULD REALLY, 'CAUSE THERE, THERE ARE HANGERS RIGHT BEHIND IT THAT ARE GONNA BE EITHER RENOVATED OR HAVE A DIFFERENT USE SOON AS YOU GO TO THE NORTH.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD, I JUST WANT THAT BE PART OF THE BIGGEST HIGHEST BIDDER COST, COST ANALYSIS.
IS THAT BEING TEN NINE? COULD IT BE USED FOR A DEVELOPER TO PUT SOMETHING MAJOR ON IT THAT'S FITS WITHIN THE STANDARD? SO YEAH, WE WOULD HAVE IT, WE WOULD HAVE THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN IS LOOK AT THE VISION, BUT THEN WE WOULD HAVE AN RFP PROCESS TO COME BACK AND SAY, OH HERE'S, HERE'S THE PROPOSALS WE GOT AND YOU FACTOR IN COST AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THAT.
AND THEN SORT OF A FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS IF WE GO FIND A PARCEL OF LAND, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
KNOWING WE'RE AT THAT STAGE, CHIEF W WHY WOULD WE NOT TRY AND DO IT? BACK TO YOUR POINT EARLIER ON OTHER COUNSELING CONSOLIDATION, WHY WOULDN'T WE ADD MORE OF A THIRD STORY TO THAT BUILDING AND CONSOLIDATE DOWN SOME OF THE OTHER SERVICES BUILDINGS THAT WE OWN TO MAKE BETTER USE OF THAT SPACE.
IF THIS WAS IT, I'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT THAT.
AND THAT GOES TO YOUR POINT, YOU WANT NUMBER OF TIMES CONSOLIDATION.
I THINK, UM, I THINK THERE ARE SITES NEAR OUR CURRENT SITES.
THERE'S A SITE WE ALREADY OWN PROPERTY VERY CLOSE TO OUR, THE NEW TOWN HALL WHERE IF WE COULD ACQUIRE SOME OTHER SITES, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT SPOT FOR THAT TO GO.
AND IT'D BECOME A CAMPUS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE CONSOLIDATION OF FOLKS ALL TOGETHER.
SO I THINK AS WE WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT OPTIONS, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER AND TRY TO HAVE THAT AS A GOAL AS WE WENT OUT AND LOOKED ALL OVER TOWN FOR WHAT IS THE BEST OPTION.
SO YEAH, THAT'S WHERE MY HEAD SPACE IS, IS TO GIVE THEM WHAT THEY NEED.
SO DO, I'VE BEEN IN THAT GUN RANGE TOO AND I REMEMBER THE OLD AND THE NEW IT, IT, IT IS WELL NEEDED.
IT'S NOT TO DRAG IT OUT FURTHER, BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT CONSOLIDATION.
IT'S REALLY TALKING ABOUT A THIRD OR FOURTH FLOOR NOT TO TAKE AWAY ANYWHERE FROM THE BOTTOM TWO FLOORS.
THAT'S WHERE MY HEAD SPACE IS AT ON THAT QUESTIONS.
UM, SO ARE WE BASING THAT FROM THE AIRPORT AT ALL OR ARE WE JUST THERE'S NO, NOTHING BEING TRANSACTED THERE AND IT'S NOT OUR PROPERTY.
IT'S TOWN OF ADDISON PROPERTY, BUT
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IT'S AIRPORT FINE.AND IS TOWN OF ADDISON PAYING THE AIRPORT? ANY, ANY LEASE ON THAT? WE ARE NOT PAYING A LEASE ON THAT.
WHAT'S THE UH, MOVE IN MOVE OUT COSTS IF WE WERE TO, UM, DEMOLISH IT AND REBUILD IN THE SAME SPOTS, CAN WE HAVE AN IDEA OF THAT? ROUGH ESTIMATES? UM, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GONNA BUILD ON SITE, YOU HAVE TO STAFF RELOCATE.
SO THEN IT'S GETTING ONE, FINDING A PLACE THAT FITS THE NEEDS FOR ALL OF OUR STAFF BECAUSE WE HAVE SECURITY NEEDS AND WE HAVE TO, WE'D HAVE TO SPEND CONSIDER AMOUNT OF MONEY SHORING UP THAT LOCATION.
UM, AND THEN FINDING SOMEBODY THAT'S WILLING IN THE LEASE FOR THREE, FOUR YEARS.
MOST PEOPLE WANT TO DO A FIVE OR ONE LEASE.
UM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT TWO, BUT IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE VERY, VERY, VERY COSTLY.
WE HAVEN'T MODELED THAT OUT YET.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE FOUR OR $5 MILLION MORE IF ON THE TRAINING NEEDS FOR THE, UM, FOR THE SHOOTING RANGE.
UH, HOW OFTEN DOES, DOES THAT HAPPEN? WHAT, WHAT KIND, HOW OFTEN DO WE USE THE RANGE? YES.
UM, AT SHIFT LEVEL, OUR OFFICERS GO OUT THERE DAILY JUST TO GET REPS IN.
UM, WE DO SERVICE TRAINING QUARTERLY.
ANYTIME WE HIRE A NEW OFFICER, WE CAN DO A LOT OF THAT STUFF IN HOUSE.
AGAIN, FOR HANDGUN, IT'S USE IT.
IF WE'RE GONNA DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE HAVE TO GO TO A STUDY.
UM, SO THE IN THE PRESENTATION TALKS ABOUT, UH, GROWTH FOR 10 YEARS.
UH, WHAT WOULD WE EXPECT? UH, A NEW BUILDING TO LAST IS IS 40 YEARS.
IT IS A LONG TIME, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WITH RIGHT PLANNING AND RIGHT EXPANSION OPTIONS, YOU CAN CONTINUE A USE OF A BUILDING BEYOND 40 YEARS.
WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT 15 YEAR BUILDING AND THEN THAT'S THE END IS WE'RE GONNA DO THIS.
WE WANNA DO IT RIGHT FROM DAY ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT, I THINK THE WORST THING WE CAN DO IS BUILD SOMETHING ON DAY ONE WITHOUT EARLY AND NOW WE'RE HAVING TO HAD THIS CONVERSATION 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, SO MAKING SURE WE'RE PLANNING GOING WELL IN THE FUTURE AND THE OTHER SITES THAT WE MENTIONED NEARBY THAT WE COULD, UH, CONSIDER, UH, RELOCATING TO AND CONSOLIDATE OR PURCHASE SOME LAND AND HAVING THAT ACTUALLY CONSOLIDATE UP TO TOWN HALL END.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BOND, THE BOND COMMITTEE WOULD, UH, DIVE FURTHER INTO ALL OF THESE.
ALL THESE WOULD GO FURTHER INTO BOND COMMITTEE AND UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PREMATURE, BUT I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE BOND COMMITTEE LOOKING AT THIS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A DEEPER DIVE.
I WAS OPPOSED TO IT 'CAUSE IT WOULD MOVE FASTER.
AND IF IT WAS A $35 MILLION RANGE, UM, EVERYBODY AGREES THAT WE NEED THAT.
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE PUBLIC INPUT AND PUBLIC APPROVAL 'CAUSE THE VOTERS WOULD BE VOTING ON IT AND, UH, THAT LETS THE, THE DIRECT VOTERS HAVE SOME SAY OVER, OVER THIS PROJECT.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL FOR NOW.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE STAFF RECOGNITION, UM, RELOCATION? IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A HUGE EXPENSE.
WHY, WHY IS THAT? I MEAN I, I'M I'M ASSUMING IF WE MOVE INTO LEASE SPACE, THERE'S GOT, THERE'S SAFETY CONCERN.
SO ONE, CAN YOU TALK THROUGH THAT? YES, WE HAVE, UH, TALKING ABOUT JUST THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR A DIGITAL SECURITY, WE HAVE PRESTIGIOUS COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, SO ANYTHING THAT'S ON OUR LAPTOPS, WE HAVE ACCESS TO PEOPLE'S CRIMINAL RECORDS, HISTORIES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT HAS TO BE WITHIN SECURE PATIENTS.
UM, PHYSICAL REQUIREMENTS, UM, WE HAVE AMMO, WE HAVE GUNS, WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO BE LOCK AND KEY.
UH, JUST FROM A MORE HARDENED SECURITY STANDPOINT.
WE HAVE SENSITIVE ITEMS IN OUR VEHICLE PARKING LOT AND SECURE PARKING.
UM, SO IT TOUCHES EVERY ASPECT OF THAT.
UM, AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TOLD THAT WE MAY NEED TO PAY FOR THE LAND THAT THAT 4,000,002 IS THAT IF WE KEEP THE EXISTING SITE, YOU'RE THINKING WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO PAY THE AIRPORT FUND OR WHAT, WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? THAT WAS JUST A ROUGH, THE ARCHITECTS LOOKED AT CURRENT LANE VALUE ACROSS TOWN TO SAY, HEY, OH, ACROSS TOWN, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE ACREAGE GOING FOR? IDEALLY WHAT SIZE WOULD YOU NEED ROUGHLY? THAT COULD BE APPROXIMATELY $4 MILLION.
THAT WAS JUST A REP, A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF THEM TRYING TO SAY, THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INCREASED COST.
THAT REALLY WASN'T LOOKED AT IN 22.
I GOT IT TO PROVIDE, HEY, THIS IS WHY.
AND THEN IF WE CAN, IF WE MOVE, UM, THE STATION OFF THE AIRPORT, DO WE LOSE ANYTHING? I MEAN, IS THERE, IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS A PLANE THAT SAYS, HEY, I'M HERE IN ADDISON BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A POLICE STATION THAT'S ON THE AIRPORT.
WOULD THAT BE A CONCERN? UH, I I, I THINK I, WE BELIEVE THAT THE, HAVING THE AIRPORT, HAVING THE POLICE STATION ON AIRPORT PROPERTY IS A BENEFIT TO THE AIRPORT.
UM, THE, WE, I THINK THE FIRE STATION IS ALSO AN AIRPORT PROPERTY.
I THINK IT'S A MORE DIRECT BENEFIT.
I THINK THEY'RE BOTH A BENEFIT TO BE CLEAR, BUT I THINK THE FIRE STATION'S A MORE DIRECT ONE AND I THINK, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD FACTOR IN AS WE LOOK TO A NEW STATION TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S NEARBY.
UM, SO I, I THINK THERE'S A BENEFIT.
I THINK IT'S JUST WEIGHING HOW MUCH OF A BENEFIT IT IS.
AND THEN WHAT DO YOU, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS BEST FOR YOU? THERE'S,
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YOU KNOW, UM, A 75,000 SQUARE FOOT WITH THE GUN RANGE.DOES THAT ASSUME, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE GYM AS WELL? YES, SIR.
SO WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS BEST FOR YOU? UH, WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR OFFICERS IS THE FACILITY.
THAT IS NOT GONNA BE OUT WRONG ON TABLE ONE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PLAN FOR FOR THE FUTURE.
UM, EXACT SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THAT.
WE'RE OPEN TO LOOK AT CERTAIN THINGS.
UM, BUT DEFINITELY A PLACE WHERE IT MEETS OUR GROWTH REQUIREMENTS AND ALLOWS OUR OFFICERS, THE POLICE TO TRAIN ON SITE LOOKING FOR WE CAN HOST TRAINING.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE MOVED TO ALREADY.
UM, THAT'S A, A KIND OF A CHALLENGE WE HAVE NOW IS WE'VE GOT PHENOMENAL INSTRUCTORS WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE TRAINING AND OTHER AGENCIES WILL PAY US TO COME HAVE TRAINING.
WE DON'T HAVE A SITE TO DO THAT.
WE'RE HAVING TO WORK AT THE AIRPORT AND PLACES LIKE THAT.
WHAT WE WANT IS A FACILITY THAT MEETS OUR NEEDS AND THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA OUTROW.
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO, UM, CHRIS, JUST A COUPLE MORE.
UM, I KNOW STEVEN'S HERE, HOW FAR CAN WE GO IF WE ISSUED BONDS? UM, IS THAT 30 YEARS? CAN WE GO 40 YEARS? WE, WE WOULD DO 20 YEAR BONDS.
ONE OF THIS IS THAT THE MAXIMUM? IT'S NOT THE MAXIMUM, BUT THAT'S, WE WOULD NOT DO MORE THAN 20 YEARS FOR A FACILITY.
EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT HAVE A LONGER USEFUL LIFE, IT WOULD BE VERY UNCOMMON.
UM, AND THEN I HAVE ONE MORE, UM, AH, I CAN I JUMP IN HERE REAL QUICK? UM, ON THE BONDS, STEVEN, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO TAP INTO THE STATE, POSSIBLY THE STATE FUNDING SOMETHING LIKE THIS OR THERE'S NOT ANY STATE FUNDING THAT I'M AWARE OF FOR A POLICE DEPARTMENT FACILITY PROJECT.
UM, THEY REALLY FOCUS ON WATER, SEWER, ROADWAY, INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
THE ONLY THING I WAS GONNA ADD IS I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF A BOND ELECTION AS WELL.
UM, AND MULTIPLE FOLKS INPUT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE TOWN.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE INCREASE THE SPACE.
JUST, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BRINGING FOLKS TOGETHER.
UM, I AT LEAST LIKE TO SEE GOOD ON THAT PATH AND SEE WHAT THE COST WOULD BE OF, OF, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANNA CALL IT, A TOWN CENTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT I THINK IT'D BE INTERESTING WE SEE WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE.
DAVID SAID, AND CHIEF, KNOWING THAT I'VE SEEN IT ON THE NEWS AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE CITY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT COMPARATOR CITIES THAT HAVE NOW BUILT NEW POLICE STATIONS IN SOME SENSE OF CONSOLIDATION.
HAVE WE TOURED THEIR FACILITIES TO GET SOME IDEA? IS THAT WE LOOKED INTO YES, SIR.
YEAH, SO WE, LIKE I SAID, THAT THAT LIST 15 WE TOURED, WE LOOKED AT PROSPER, SALINA RICHARDSON, UM, ALLEN, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR FACILITY AS WELL.
UM, SO THE FIRM THAT CAME AND DO THIS, THEY REALLY PUT MESSAGE AND LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES, WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON WITHIN THE AREAS, SO PEOPLE PERFECT.
UM, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE JAIL, SO I'M JUST GONNA ASK ALL MY QUESTIONS IN YOUR ADDRESS.
SO I WANT TO KNOW, WOULD WE BE INCLUDING A JAIL OR NOT AND WHY? PROBABLY.
I KNOW WHY, UH, COMBINING POLICE AND FIRE INTO ONE FACILITY BECAUSE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME AGE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SPENDING MONEY ON POLICE AND I DON'T WANT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO COME RIGHT BY AND SAY, WELL NOW WE WANT IT.
UM, THE INWOOD ROAD AREA IS, SEEMS TO BE REDEVELOPED.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT'S, THAT'S HOWARD, CAN WE START ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS? UM, SO I WOULD SAY ON THE JAIL, AS WE GO THROUGH THE BOND PROCESS, WE, WE CAN DISCUSS A JAIL AND WE'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION.
WE ARE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS FOR JAIL SO THAT WE CAN SAY WHAT IS THE BEST FOR US LONG TERM.
I WILL JUST, THE COST, THE COST OF ADDED JAIL FROM INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, ONE TIME COST, IT WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL COST.
THE COST FOR A JAIL IS THE RECURRING COSTS THAT YOU HAVE OF, OF HAVING SIGNIFICANT STAFF INCREASE IN THE JAIL.
SO WE ARE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA PURSUE ALL ALL OPTIONS, RIGHT? AS OF TODAY, WE ARE, WE ARE TALKING, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH GRAPEVINE, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
SAY WHAT IS THE BEST OPTION? SO OUR OFFICERS DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE THAT FAR AS A BOND COMMITTEE LOOKS AT THIS.
WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER A JAIL, BUT WE ARE CONSIDERING, WE ARE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS.
WE AT THIS TIME DON'T THINK THAT IS THE BEST OPTION, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND TO IT.
AND CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BOND COMMITTEE CAN CONSIDER AS THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT.
AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION FOR THEM TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THOSE PIECES.
WHAT WAS YOUR SECOND QUESTION? WELL, I WANTED TO KNOW IF WE COULD COMBINE FIRE AND POLICE WITH YOU SUGGEST IT WASN'T MY IDEA, BUT A FACILITY FOR BOTH BECAUSE I THINK AS SOON AS WE GET THE POLICE ONE DONE, THEN WE'RE GONNA THE FIRE WANTING IT TOO.
AND I THINK MAYBE IT'D BE CHEAPER TO DO 'EM TOGETHER AS
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DO ONE AND THE OTHER.SO RIGHT NOW, AS WE WENT THROUGH THE, ALL THE STUDIES THAT WERE MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING, THE FIRE STATION IS NOT IN THE SAME CONDITION AS THE POLICE STATION.
ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE AT FIRE STATION ONE IS REALLY, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE BIGGER FOR THE AMOUNT OF, OF NEEDS THAT WE HAVE THERE.
SO IF THE DIRECTION WAS TO COME FORWARD WITH A BOND PROGRAM, WE WERE GONNA HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON POSSIBLE WAYS TO MEET THAT GOAL AT THE, IN JUNE AS WE LOOKED AT POTENTIAL OTHER PROJECTS.
BUT WE DON'T, RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T SEE THE FIRE STATION BEING UP TO THE NECESSITY TO REPLACE IT OR TO GO TO THE ADDED COST OF HAVING A UNIFIED CONSOLIDATED STATION.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT.
AGAIN, THE BOND COMMITTEE COULD CONSIDER THAT.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES THAT WOULD GO INTO THAT DECISION.
WAS THERE A BENEFIT TO THE FIRE AND POLICE BEING NEARBY, NEAR EACH OTHER? I MEAN, NOW THEY'RE ACROSS THE STREET, BUT MOVE THE POLICE AWAY THEN? UH, THEY WOULDN'T BE NEAR EACH OTHER UNLESS WE DID IT TOGETHER.
I, I THINK THERE'S SOME OPTIONS THAT THEY COULD STILL BE PRETTY NEAR TO EACH OTHER.
WE'RE NOT THAT BIG OF A CITY LAND-WISE, SO I THINK THEY WOULD BE FAIRLY NEAR TO EACH OTHER REGARDLESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BENEFITS OF THINGS BEING CLOSER.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TANGIBLE THAT BENEFIT IS BEING ACROSS, I'LL SAY, SO WE, WE DO TRAINING, BUT THAT'S NOT ON THOSE LOCATIONS ANYWAYS.
WHEN WE DO JOINT TRAINING, IT'S USUALLY AT THE AIRPORT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THE PROXIMITY OF THE BUILDINGS HAS NO IMPACT ON OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH THIS.
UM, THEN THE OTHER THING I WAS GONNA SUGGEST, AND NOBODY LIKED THIS, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BY TRAILS, DO U-TURN ON THE TOLL ROAD, SOME OF THOSE ARE GONNA COST US MILLION AND A HALF, $2 MILLION.
CAN WE THINK ABOUT MAYBE TAKING THOSE DOLLARS AND PUTTING IT TOWARD THE POLICE IF THEY'RE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS THIS PROJECT AND NOT, I'M, I'M WORRIED ABOUT OUR TAX RATES, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE TAXES BEFORE PAYING AND I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE SPENDING.
SO I JUST APPRECIATE, WELL THAT IS, THAT IS THE GOAL OF THE BOND COMMITTEE.
THAT'S THE GOAL OF OUR BUDGET PROCESS EVERY YEAR IS THE WAY THOSE, THOSE PROJECTS AGAINST EACH OTHER.
SO THE BOND COMMITTEE WOULD BE A COMMITTEE FORMED FOR NEXT YEAR TO FOCUS ON THIS AND THEN COME BACK WITH SUGGESTIONS OF, OR, SO WHAT WE, IF WE GOT DIRECTION, WE WOULD COME BACK IN JUNE AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT PROCESS WOULD BE.
WE WOULD ALSO GO IN, WE WOULD LIST A FEW OTHER POTENTIAL PROJECTS FOR THE BOND COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER.
IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A BOND COMMITTEE THAT'S GONNA LOOK AT THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS OF POTENTIAL PROJECTS, HEY, HERE'S SOME OTHER PROJECTS THEY COULD CONSIDER.
WE CERTAINLY HAVE ONES THAT WERE DISCUSSED IN THE PREVIOUS BOND PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME UP SINCE THEN.
SO WE WOULD COME BACK IN JUNE AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND THEN WE WOULD TALK ABOUT WHAT THE TIMEFRAME WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHEN WE WOULD APPOINT A COMMITTEE AND START PREPARING FOR AN ELECTION IN 2026.
NANCY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YES.
UH, NOT TO PUT, NOT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT, UM, I GATHER THAT YOU WOULD FEEL LIKE HAVING THE GUN RANGE THERE AT OUR FACILITY WOULD, UM, PROVIDE THE BEST TRAINING FOR OUR OFFICERS.
AND IT'S, IF WE'VE GOT A TOOL, WE SHOULD BE ABLE USE IT, UM, AND USE IT AS WELLS POTENTIAL.
AND UM, AND I GUESS THAT WOULD HOLD TRUE FOR RECRUITMENT AS WELL? YES.
AND I, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THE, THE PROPER MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO GO IS THROUGH A BOND WITH THE COMMITTEE.
OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? YES, I'VE GOT A COUPLE THOUGHTS.
UM, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS, A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.
UM, AND I'D LOVE TO GET LOCK THAT DOWN A LOT MORE THAN WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
UM, ALSO WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FAA AND AIRPORT CONSTRAINTS.
UM, AND, AND THE OTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAD, WE REALLY HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT TONIGHT, WE HAD IN THE PAST IS, UM, RIGHT NOW I BELIEVE WE'RE 99% OCCUPANCY AT THE AIRPORT.
SO IF WE DID MOVE, I THINK, I THINK THE AIRPORT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MORE, MORE LAND TO WORK WITH.
UM, UM, AND I LIKE, I REALLY LIKE, UM, THE THOUGHT OF WHILE WE'RE SHORING UP SOME OF THESE QUESTION MARKS LOOKING OFF, OFF AIRPORT AWAY FROM THE SITE THAT WE'RE FIND OUT WHAT ALL OUR OPTIONS ARE, RIGHT? LET'S, LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE.
LET'S LOCK DOWN DO, DO WE, DO WE WANT TO JAIL OR NOT? HOW MANY CELLS ARE WE GOING TO DO A HYBRID? I MEAN, DO WE NOT GO TO JAIL? WHATEVER THOSE KNOCK 'EM DOWN.
UM, AND, AND THEN AFTER THAT I WOULD, I WOULD WANT TO COME BACK AND, AND MAKE MORE EDUCATED DECISIONS.
SO I'M, I'M, I'M MAYBE BY MYSELF OVER HERE WITH THE EXPLORE SUITABLE ALTERNATIVE LAND WITHIN THE ACCOUNT.
WELL, DAVID, WOULD THAT BE PART OF THE PROCESS OF THE BOND COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND AND THEY WOULD HAVE MUCH MORE COMPLETE INFORMATION FOR THEM TO LOOK AT? YES.
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IN ROAD, MAYBE BE BECAUSE WE NEED THREE STORIES, PATH RESTRICTIONS, BUT IF WE NEED TO KNOW A, B AND C OR A, B, C, D, 1, 2, 3, 4, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.BUT, BUT THIS IS, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU DIRECTION WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH FORMING A BOND COMMITTEE.
THAT ALL THIS IS REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION, BUT REALLY IT'S JUST WE KNOW THE COST IS GONNA BE OVER 35 AT THIS POINT.
SHOULD WE HEAD THE BOND COMMITTEE THROUGHOUT? THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO NOTICE.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, JUST CLARIFYING KIND OF ON HOW WAS MENTIONING.
IT'S JUST THIS WOULD BE DETERMINED BY, I GUESS THE BOND COMMITTEE ALSO, BUT IT'S FROM A FINANCING STANDPOINT, IF WE WERE TO CON TO GO FORWARD WITH LIKE THE TOLLWAY CROSSING THE EAST WEST PROJECT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, INCLUDES TAKING OUT THE, THE TURNAROUND LANE.
WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD MOVE OVER TO A POTENTIAL PROJECT IN THE BOND COMMITTEE OR, UH, WE'RE ALREADY GOING DOWN THAT PATH.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU WERE TALK REFERRING AS AN EXAMPLE.
RIGHT? I'M KIND OF THINKING THINGS WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY ON THAT AREN'T NECESSARY.
DON'T SPEND THOSE DOLLARS THERE AND DEFER HERE AND HAVE BORROWS.
I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE MOVE AROUND.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT BOND COMMITTEE DOES.
AND THEY SAY WHAT, WHAT'S PRIORITY? WHAT SHOULD BE, WHAT SHOULD GO TO THE VOTERS? THE VOTER'S GONNA SEE DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS BASED ON THOSE.
THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS WHERE WE HAVE OUTSIDE FUNDING THAT SUPPLE THAT SUPPLEMENTS IT AND WE DON'T NEED TO GO, WE DON'T NEED TO ISSUE BONDS FOR THOSE PROJECTS AND THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT CONSIDERATION.
JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE QUESTION.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S PRETTY GOOD CONSENSUS ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THE BOND COMMITTEE.
SO I ABSOLUTELY THINK WE NEED IT FOR THIS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE REALLY SHARED YOUR THOUGHTS? UM, WELL, I, I, I, I'M ON BOARD WITH WHAT, I MEAN, I'M, I'M LISTENING AND I, AND I KNOW WHAT THAT WE NEED A NEW POLICE STATION AND, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, GO ON FOR A, FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME TO SAY THAT WE JUST NEED TO FORM A BOND COMMITTEE AND, AND SEE WHAT, WHAT THAT DIRECTION TAKES US.
[1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present]
[b. Present and discuss the speed limit on Quorum Drive including an overview of existing roadway conditions, Addison Police Department data, driver feedback sign report information, countermeasures used for roadway safety from the Federal Highway Administration and inclusion in the Master Transportation Plan.]
B PRESENTED, DISCUSS THE SPEED LIMIT ON FORM DRIVE, INCLUDING AN OVERVIEW OF EXISTING ROADWAY CONDITIONS, ADDISON POLICE DEPARTMENT DATA DRIVER FEEDBACK, SIGNED REPORTS INFORMATION FOUND MEASURES USED FOR ROADWAY SAFETY FROM THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION AND INCLUSION AND MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.BECKY THE MAYOR, COUNSEL, THANKING DIRECTOR CALLED THE COURTS IN ENGINEERING.
GONNA TAKE A LITTLE TIME TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT, ABOUT THE FORM DRIVE, SPEED LIMIT.
THIS IS A COMPLEX TOPIC, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
SO I'M GONNA DO MY BEST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE COUNCIL REQUEST WE'VE RECEIVED, TALK ABOUT THE EXISTING ROAD CONDITION TODAY.
CHIEF FREEZE IS GONNA JOIN ME AND TALK ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED AT THAT TIME.
UM, DISCUSS WITH YOU THE DRIVER FEEDBACK REPORT, TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION COUNTERMEASURES, UM, ULTIMATELY THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION, THE PLAN, AND KIND OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE RECEIVED A COUNCIL REQUEST FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HOWARD FREE THAT WAS SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER DAN CIOS TO INCLUDE A WORK SESSION AGENDA FOR ZERO CANCEL OF CONSIDERATION.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, THE REQUEST WAS TO CONSIDER THE SPEED LIMIT ON CORN DRIVE TO BE REDUCED FROM 30 MILES, UM, FROM 30 MILES PER HOUR TO 20 MILES PER HOUR FOR APPROXIMATELY HALF A MILE FROM ARAPAHOE ROAD TO AIRPORT PARKWAY.
AND INSTALL BLINKING YELLOW LIGHTS AND SIGNAGE AT EACH END OF THIS SAME SLOWER SPEED ZONE THAT STATES ENTERING A SLOWER SPEED ZONE TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE NEW SPEED LIMIT.
THE EXISTING ROADWAY CONDITION, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURE, AND I'M SURE MANY OF YOU HAVE DRIVEN THIS, UH, DAILY, IS A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY WITH ENTRE PARKING.
THERE ARE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROADWAY.
A STOP SIGN WAS INSTALLED AT MORRIS AVENUE OF FORM DRIVE DURING THE WEEK OF MARCH 10TH, UM, TO WORK ON, UM, SOME SITE, UH, SITE DISTANCE ISSUES IN THERE.
AND WE ARE CONTINUING THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED TO WORK ON ADDITIONAL, UH, VISIBILITY ENHANCEMENTS IN THAT AREA.
THERE IS A SIGNALED INTERSECTION AT ARAPAHOE AIRPORT PARKWAY, KELLER SPRINGS, AND THEN A DRIVER FEEDBACK SIGN, WHICH IS LOCATED SOUTHBOUND BEFORE MORRIS AVENUE AND QUORUM DRIVE.
SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF AND LET HIM TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DATA FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE.
CHIEF CHRISTOPHER AND CHIEF POLICE.
UH, I JUST WANNA GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW.
UM, SO TWO, KIND OF LOOKING AT TWO METRICS.
ONE FROM JANUARY TO MARCH, 2025, UM, NINE FOUR TRAFFIC STOPS ALONG THAT STRETCH.
UM, 115 CITATIONS, BUT YOU'LL NOTICE, UM, THAT
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NUMBER JUMPED UP DRASTICALLY AFTER MARCH 10TH FOR MONTHS OF THOSE STOPS SIGN.I PASSED MAJORITY OF THOSE STOPS FOR PEOPLE JUST RUNNING STOP SIGNS.
UM, LOOKING AT THE YEAR ZERO CRASHES OF 2024.
UM, AND FOR THE, UH, YEAR PRIOR 30 STOPS FOR SPEEDING ALONG THE FORM WITH TWO CITATIONS ISSUED.
UH, WHICH TYPICALLY MEANS THAT VEHICLE SPEEDS THAT THEY WERE TRAVELING DIDN'T REALLY WARRANT CITATION, BUT THEY WERE UP THERE CLOSE ENOUGH JUST SAID THAT ARM MOTOR OFFICERS CONDUCT THOSE STOPS, DRIVER EDUCATION, GET THEM TO SLOW DOWN.
SO, DRIVER FEEDBACK REPORT, SO MANY OF YOU MAY NOT REALIZE, BUT THE SIGN THAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU'RE TRAVELING SOUTHBOUND ON CORN BEFORE YOU GET TO OLD MORRIS AVENUE, IS ACTUALLY CONSIDERED A DRIVER FEEDBACK SIGN.
'CAUSE IT'S GIVING YOU EXACTLY THAT.
IT'S POSTED AT 30 MILES PER HOUR AND IT ALSO READS WHEN YOU DRIVE THE SPEED THAT YOU'RE DRIVING.
SO WE CONSIDER THAT A DRIVER FEEDBACK SIGN.
LEMME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GRAPH FIRST BEFORE I GO INTO THE MEDIAN SPEED.
SO THE GRAPH YOU SEE, UM, ON THE, UH, SLIDE HERE IS DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED FROM THAT SIGN BECAUSE WE'RE COLLECTING DATA, UM, CONSTANTLY, UM, FROM THAT REPORT.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY DATA COLLECTED FROM MARCH 1ST TO, UH, MARCH 31ST.
AND WHAT IT GIVES US IS READINGS OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THAT TIMEFRAME.
ON THE, UM, GRAPH THAT YOU SEE, THE GREEN LINE REPRESENTS THE 30 MILES PER HOUR.
THE BLUE LINE REPRESENTS, UH, THE SPEEDS ALONG THAT AREA.
SO THE MEDIAN SPEED, OR THE AVERAGE SPEED ON THIS ROADWAY IS 28 MILES PER HOUR.
AND ENGINEERING PRACTICE STATES THAT ROADWAYS SHOULD BE SET TO 85 PERCENTILE.
UM, THE 85TH PERCENTILE IS 85% OF THE DRIVERS AND WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY DRIVING.
SO THE DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED DURING THIS, UH, SAMPLE SET SHOWED THAT 85% OF DRIVERS WERE DRIVING 33 MILES PER HOUR OR LESS DURING THIS MONTH.
UM, ALSO YOU CAN SEE THAT 95% OF DRIVERS WERE DRIVING 36 MILES PER HOUR OR LESS.
SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK FROM THAT SIGN.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS TALKED ABOUT IN THE INDUSTRY, UM, ARE WHAT THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION HAS SUPPORT, WHICH ARE CONSIDERED COUNTERMEASURES.
AND THESE ARE MANY THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT IN THE INDUSTRY TO TALK ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN DEVELOP, UH, SAFER ROADWAYS.
AND SO THIS GUIDE AS A DOCUMENT THAT MANY FOLKS USE, UM, IT'S CALLED MAKING OUR ROADS SAFER, ONE COUNTERMEASURE AT A TIME.
THERE'S ACTUALLY 26 COUNTERMEASURES.
AND I'M GONNA GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL ON THESE.
SO I WANNA HIGHLIGHT, UM, REALLY THE COUNTERMEASURES THAT WE HAVE SEEN OR THAT WE'VE BEEN USING ON SOME OF OUR ROADWAY PROJECTS AND ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO USE.
UM, SOME OF THOSE ARE BICYCLE LANES, UM, POSSIBLY USING, UM, DIFFERENT CROSSWALKS, UM, FOR VARIABLE SPEEDS.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE RECTANGULAR, UM, RAPID FLASHING BEACON.
UM, ON THE BOTTOM YOU CAN SEE THE BACK PLATES WITH RE UH, REFLECTIVE RETROREFLECTIVE, UH, BORDERS.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY YELLOW AROUND THE SIGNAL.
UM, ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS A DEDICATED RIGHT AND TURN LANE, UH, LEFT TURN LANES.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE ROAD DIETS, WHICH IS NARROWING THE ROADWAYS.
SO THE PRIMARY METHOD TO ADDRESS VEHICLE SPEED IS TO ALTER THAT BUILT ENVIRONMENT THAT'S CONSIDERED CONTEXT SENSITIVE DESIGN.
UM, SO ENFORCEMENT ALONE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO FIX SPEED.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE Y'ALL UNDER, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION HAS PUT TOGETHER THIS DOCUMENT.
IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE ENVIRONMENT OF WHICH, UM, THE ROADWAY IS AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGH WALKWAYS, ROAD DIETS, BICYCLE LANES, ROUNDABOUTS, SUCH AS ADDISON CIRCLE, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DESIGNING THAT ROADWAY APPROPRIATELY.
AND MANY TIMES WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THOSE THINGS ARE ADDED ADDITIONALLY THROUGHOUT TIME.
THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, BUT THEY'RE THINGS THAT ARE ADDED THROUGHOUT TIME AS THE ROADWAY CHARACTERISTICS MAY CHANGE A LITTLE BIT ON THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING CURRENTLY THROUGH OUR UPDATE, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING.
UM, THE PROJECT IS IN PROCESS, GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO REVIEW AND ASSESS ALL THE ROADWAY CHARACTERISTICS WHICH HELP US PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.
SO IT'S LOOKING AT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS OF THE ROADWAYS, AND THOSE ARE ARTERIALS COLLECTORS, RESIDENTIAL STREETS, ALSO LOOKING AT THE SPEED LIMITS.
AND THIS IS JUST A SAMPLE SET OF SOME OF THE SPEED LIMITS.
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THROUGH THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.AS YOU CAN SEE, MONTFORD QUORUM AIRPORT, UM, MIDWAY ARAPAHOE, ADDISON ROAD SPEED LIMITS WILL BE, UH, EVALUATED THROUGH THIS MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN UPDATE.
UM, ALSO WITH THAT WE ARE COORDINATING WITH DART AND SEVERAL OF THEIR DIFFERENT DIVISIONS MAKING SURE THAT, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN MATCHES NOT ONLY WHAT THEY'RE ALSO CLEANING, BECAUSE REMEMBER, THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS JUST NOT ABOUT VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, IT'S ALSO ABOUT PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE TRAFFIC.
I MEAN, THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, OBVIOUSLY THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC INPUT.
UM, AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.
I WILL MENTION AT THE TOWN HALL, WE DID RECEIVE A LOT OF REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK, UM, FROM OUR, UH, INTERACTIVE BOARDS.
SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY TO DO IS TO SEEK COUNCIL DIRECTION.
THERE'S SEVERAL OPTIONS HERE, OR YOU MAY COME UP, HAVE ONE ON YOUR OWN.
UM, ONE WOULD BE TO MODIFY THE SPEED LIMIT ON QUORUM DRIVE TODAY.
UM, IF COUNSEL SO WISHES TO MAKE THIS MODIFICATION, SO WOULD RECOMMEND THIS ROADWAY CROSS SECTION, UM, JUST FROM QUO DRIVE, UM, OR CORN DRIVE FROM ARAPAHOE TO COLOR SPRINGS ROAD, BE REDUCED TO 25 MILES PER HOUR.
UM, I MIGHT MENTION THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF PROJECTS GOING ON.
KEEP IN MIND TODAY WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT ARAPAHOE FROM KEL SPRINGS.
UM, THE SECOND OPTION WOULD BE TO WAIT AND EVALUATE THE SPEED LIMIT DURING THE, THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PROCESS.
UM, THROUGH THAT PLAN, LIKE I JUST MENTIONED, UM, ALL SPEED LIMITS WILL BE EVALUATED THROUGHOUT TOWN TO PROVIDE SOME CONSISTENCY AND LOOK AT WHAT THE ROADWAY CHARACTERISTICS ARE OR, UM, AS I MENTIONED, YOU MAY HAVE SOME DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL END MY PRESENTATION AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
SO, ABSOLUTELY, THE, THE FIRST THOUGHT AND
ANOTHER ONE, UM, BACK TO QUORUM, WHEN THE, WHEN THE SPEED LIMIT LIMIT WAS SET, WHICH WAS HOW MANY YEARS AGO, DAVID, WE EVEN NOW, WAS IT 30 YEARS AGO, 20 YEARS AGO, THAT WAS DEVELOPED AND BUILT, BUT I'M ASSUMING A FEW GENERATIONS AGO THAT SPEED LIMIT WAS SET.
PEOPLE STARTED WORKING FROM HOME AFTER COVID AND DID NOT RETURN BACK TO OFFICE.
SO THEY SEE HERE AND WILL SHARE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE STREET MUCH MORE FREQUENTLY NOW THAN THEY EVER HAVE BEFORE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE AMAZON DRIVERS GOING UP AND DOWN, BUZZING UP AND DOWN STREETS.
WE DIDN'T HAVE UBER DRIVERS AND LYFT DRIVERS GOING UP AND DOWN THESE STREETS WHIPPING IN AND OUT TO ME WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND EVERYONE'S MOVED INTO THAT AREA, ONCE IT'S FULLY FOLIAGE, IT IS LIKE A CORRIDOR THAT IS SO BOXED IN THAT IT AMPLIFIES EVERYTHING.
AND I'VE SAID FROM DAY ONE, THIRTY'S BEEN WAY TOO HIGH, YOU CAN DO, AND YOU, YOU HIT THE NUMBER ON THE HEAD.
I SAID THAT TO YOU, PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY DOING 30, 31 OR 32 MILES AN HOUR.
BUT IN THAT CAPACITY, AT THOSE TIMES OF DAY WHEN FOLKS ARE WORKING FROM HOME, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE DOING 60.
SO IT PROVES MY POINT THAT THE 85% THRESHOLD BEING HIT AND THAT THE DRAMATIC, THE DRAMA THAT'S BEING CREATED FOR THOSE THAT LIVE IN THE SMALLER AREA, WE NEED TO LISTEN TO WHAT THEY WANT, WHICH IS SAFETY, BETTER CROSSWALKS, BETTER VISIBILITY, BETTER LIGHTING.
WE'RE DOING BETTER PATROLLING.
BUT IN MY OPINION, WE HAVE MUCH MORE TRAFFIC THAT HAS NOT BEEN INVITED IN.
IT'S BECAUSE OF WHERE WE LIVE IN SOCIETY TODAY, IS THAT WE NEED TO DROP IT TO 20.
I I DON'T PROBABLY GONNA HIT SOME BUSH BACK ON THAT, BUT I'M ON OUR CHAIN.
WE'RE ALREADY EXPERIENCING IT NEEDS TO BE A STATEMENT FOR THAT SMALL OF AN AREA IS WHERE MY HEAD SPACE IS AT ON M 11.
UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE AGAIN THAT SAYS FROM ARAPAHOE TO KELLER SPRINGS? I WAS ONLY ASKING FROM ARAPAHOE TO AIRPORT.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DOING IT LONGER? THAT IS COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, SIR.
WHATEVER WE'D LIKE TO DO, I MEAN, THAT'S FINE, BUT I DON'T THINK THE PROBLEM EXISTS FROM THE, FROM AIRPORT TO KELLER I OR KELLER SPRINGS.
I THINK IT'S WHERE SO DID, SURE WE HAVE TALL BUILDINGS, TREES MAKING A CANOPY, A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING ON THE SIDEWALK, PEOPLE CROSSING PEOPLE WITH THEIR DOGS ON
I SPENT A LOT OF TIME OVER THERE IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS, MORE THAN I SPENT IN 25 YEARS.
AND THE COMMENT FROM THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE IS THAT PEOPLE WERE SPEEDING.
I GOT IN MY OWN CAR, I DROVE UP AND DOWN THAT STREET AT 2025 AND 30, 20 FELT SAFE, 25 FELT SAFE, 30 FELT LIKE I WAS SPEEDING AND I WASN'T.
MY PROBLEM WITH 25 IS IT'S NOT ENOUGH BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA PUSH THAT LIMIT AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA DRIVE 25, THEY'RE GONNA GO 28, 27, 29.
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WE'RE NOT GONNA, AND SO IF WE DROP IT TO 20, THAT DISTANCE, IT'S, YOU SAID SOMEWHERE IT'S ABOUT A HALF A MILE.I LOCKED IT AT FOUR TENTHS OF THE MILE AND MEASURED IT.
IT IS 48 SECONDS TO DRIVE THAT DISTANCE.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO STOP IT, YOU JUST TO DRIVE STRAIGHT THROUGH.
WE CAN'T DRIVE STRAIGHT THROUGH, HAVE A CIRCLE.
WE HAVE A LIGHT RAILROAD DRIVE, WE HAVE OTHER ISSUES.
BUT TO DRIVE FOUR TENS OF A MILES, 48 SECONDS AT 30 AND IT'S 72 SECONDS AT ONE.
IT'S ONLY A DIFFERENCE OF 24 SECONDS.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA DELAY ANYBODY.
IT FEELS LIKE A SCHOOL ZONE DRIVING THROUGH THE, ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE, THE, THE WALKING AND THE DOGS.
AND YOU CAN'T ALWAYS SEE, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT, IF THE DOGS ARE AHEAD OF THE PURPOSE PERSON WALKING THEM, YOU MIGHT SEE THE PERSON, YOU DON'T SEE THE DOG.
AND, AND THE PEOPLE THERE ARE SCARED.
SO THE BUSES COME BARRELING DOWN, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GOING 40 AND MAYBE THEY'RE ONLY GOING 30.
MY ISSUE IS AT 20 MILES AN HOUR, IF SOMEONE'S DRIVING 30, WE CAN ISSUE A CITATION.
BUT AT 25, IF THEY'RE GOING 30 WE CAN'T AND 30 FEELS TOO FAST.
SO PERSONALLY, I THINK IT SHOULD BE DROPPED TO 20.
I KNOW ENOUGH THERE'S ISSUES WITH TEXTILE OR WHATEVER, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE, UH, I DID MY OWN SURVEY AND I GOT BACK 80 RESPONSES.
SO ABOUT A THIRD WE'RE OKAY LEAVING AT A THIRD.
A THIRD SAID 25, ANOTHER THIRD SAID 20.
UM, I FEEL LIKE 20 IS THE RIGHT NUMBER BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE GONNA DRIVE 25 ANYWAY.
I'LL SAFE NOT IF WE CAN ENFORCE 25.
I GO, BUT I CAN GET YOU THESE.
CAN WE GO BACK TO SLIDE SIX? SURE.
AND DO WE KNOW WE, SO WE HAD THIS STOP SIGN INSTALLED AT THAT MORRIS CAN FORM.
DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT THAT WAS INSTALLED? YES SIR.
IT WAS INSTALLED MARCH 11TH OR THE WEEK OF MARCH 10TH.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, I'M NOT REALLY SEEING, UH, ANY ISSUES.
AM I MISSING SOMETHING? WELL, AFTER, I MEAN AFTER THE STOP SIGN, UM, STOP SIGNS ARE NOT USED FOR SPEED CONTROL.
THE REASON WHY THE STOP SIGN WAS INSTALLED WAS BECAUSE OF, UM, THE ACTUAL SITE DISTANCE ISSUE LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF, UH, MORRIS AND FORM.
UM, YOU COULDN'T SEE AROUND PARKED VEHICLES AND ALSO TREES THAT WERE IN THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE INSTALLATION.
BUT INHERENTLY NOW THAT THERE'S STOP SIGNS, YOU WILL SEE A DIFFERENT IN THE INDIVIDUAL SURGE TRAVERSING THAT ALL, ALL I'M SAYING IS THE DATA LOOKS TO SUPPORT THAT, THAT STOP SIGN IS SLOPES AND SPEEDS.
THAT'S ALL THE POINT I'M MAKING.
SO IN THE NEXT QUESTION I'VE GOT IS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ENFORCEMENT ALONE WILL NOT, UH, HELP SLOW PEOPLE DOWN.
AND THEN I'M, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE, WHEN I THINK OF ENFORCEMENT, I'M THINKING CITATIONS.
UM, IS THAT WHAT YOU CONSIDER? YES, SIR.
UH, ENFORCEMENT OR WARNING OR WARNINGS? I CAN LET JEFF SPEAK MORE THAT.
SO YOUR QUESTIONING, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ENFORCEMENT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO STOP EDUCATION, EDUCATING THE PUBLIC.
SO CITATIONS, UM, ALONE WOULDN'T BE ENFORCEMENT.
YOU, YOU, YOU ALSO INCLUDE WARNING.
PRESENCE, UH, PHYSICAL PRESENCE.
JUST HAVEN'T SEEN AN OFFICER IN THE AREA TRYING TO STOP EDUCATION ANYMORE.
I, I CAN SPEAK FOR ME IS WHEN I, WHEN I DO SOMETHING AGAINST THE LAW AND I GET A TICKET AND I HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, UM, THAT REALLY CURBS MY BEHAVIOR AND, AND A WARNING NOT SO MUCH.
SO WHEN I SEE TWO CITATIONS, UM, I, I'VE GOTTA BELIEVE THAT THERE'S MORE CITATIONS OUT THERE WELL THAN THAT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
SO LOOKING AT THE DATA, UM, IF YOU'RE GOING 36 AND A 30 OFFICER PULL YOU OVER AND SAY, HEY, SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
IS THAT PARTICULAR OFFICER GONNA GET A CITATION FOR SIX MILES AN HOUR AT THE SPEED LIMIT? THAT'S OFFICER DISCRETION.
UM, SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT THAT STRETCH, WE WEREN'T SEEING A LOT OF 40, 41, 42, 43, WHICH IS, HEY, YOU NEED TO GET A CITATION.
UM, THAT'S WHAT THAT DATA WAS REALLY SHOWING OFFICERS OUT THERE, BEING PRESENT, MAKING THOSE STOPS.
BUT THE SPEED RANGE IS SOMETIMES, UNLESS AN OFFICER WANTS TO EXPLAIN, HAVE A BAD DAY CITATION FOR SIX O, USUALLY THEY GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE SOMETHING.
LEMME ASK A FOLLOW UP BEFORE WE GO FURTHER.
SO IF I, IF I'M DRIVING THROUGH THERE AND I GET PULLED OVER AND I GET A WARNING, I'M AN UBER DRIVER.
DOES THAT WARNING STAY IN THE SYSTEM? MEANING IF YOU CAUGHT ME THE NEXT DAY DOING 36 AGAIN, HE PULLED OVER, SAYS, WE GIVE DAN A WARNING THREE DAYS AGO.
THREE HOURS AGO, THREE WEEKS AGO.
DO YOU SAVE THAT DATA ON WARNINGS? NO.
UM, SO A LOT OF THAT IS, BUT WE HAVE OUR, OUR OFFICERS WHO HAVE DONE THAT, AND I WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF OUR LAWYER OFFICERS AND WE DID THE EXACT SAME THING.
HE STOPPED HIM ONE DAY FOR SPEEDING AND THEN TWO DAYS LATER, LIKE JUST STOPPED YOU.
LIKE YOU'RE NOT, THEN THAT'S WHERE THAT, THAT EDUCATION KIND OF, WE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT IT.
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CURB THAT THE SAME.I JUST FEEL LIKE THE WORD ENFORCEMENT, YOU DRINKING A TICKET NOW, RIGHT? EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST POWDER PUFFS AND CUPCAKES AND IT'S A ICE CREAM SOCIAL.
AND YET WE'RE BACK TO THE SAME, SAME CONVERSATION AS A VERY TIGHT DENSELY CONCENTRATED RESIDENTIAL AREA WHERE THE, THE RESIDENTS ARE NOT HAPPY.
I CAN PROBABLY DO THE SAME THING.
I'VE TALKED TO A HANDFUL, THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT AND THEY'RE WAY MORE THAN 60% THAT ARE VERY FRUSTRATED THAT WE ARE NOT USING THE WORD ENFORCEMENT.
AND THAT PUT A BONE CONTENTION WITH ME, WHICH IS IF I'M GETTING PULLED OVER, I DID SOMETHING WRONG.
UNLESS IT WAS JUST LIKE A TAILLIGHT WAS OUT, THERE'S YOUR WARNING.
BUT BACK TO MARLON'S POINT, YOU WANT TO STOP THE BEHAVIOR.
TWO TICKETS IS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH IN MY OPINION.
YEAH, I'M GONNA JUST SAY ONE, TWO MORE THINGS.
I THINK CITATIONS WILL MAKE AN IMPACT.
AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TWO MILES OVER THE SPEED LIMIT, BUT YOU ALL, YOU ALL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON THAT.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING I WANT TO BRING UP IS, UH, BACK IN 2017, UM, THE, THE TOWN STAFF INSTALLED A STOP SIGN ON, ON BELTWAY, UH, AT THE, AT THE, UH, PARK PLACE ENTRANCE AT EXIT, THE ONE ON THE, THE WEST, WEST END OF PARK PLACE.
AND SO ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT LIVE RIGHT THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, HAD A REALLY HARD TIME WITH THAT, DIDN'T LIKE IT AND THOUGHT IT WAS A, A MAJOR NOISE ISSUE FOR HIM.
UM, AND, AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, HE SPOKE TO A BUNCH OF PEOPLE AND AND FINALLY BROUGHT IT, BROUGHT IT TO COUNCIL.
I THINK, I THINK THE MAYOR WAS ACTUALLY ON COUNCIL AT THAT TIME.
I WAS, WASN'T WATCHING AT THAT TIME.
BUT, UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED THERE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WHAT HAPPENED IS, IS, IS COUNSEL SAID, HEY, WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO BE DOWN IN THE LEVEL OF THE TAIL OF WHERE A STOP SIGN SHOULD GO OR WHERE IT SHOULDN'T, OR YOU KNOW, WHERE WE SHOULD ADD PEDESTRIAN STRIKING OR STREET BY STREET BY STREET.
AND SO AT THAT TIME, COUNSEL GAVE DISCRETION TO BASICALLY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO HANDLE THAT AND NOT BE, NOT BE A COUNCIL ITEM.
AND, AND TO ME THIS SURE FEELS A LOT LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT CHANGES THE SPEED LIMIT OR PORTION OF FORM DRIVE AND IT, TO ME IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THAT THAT'S WHERE THE COUNCIL SHOULD BE.
WE SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT, A LOT ABOVE THIS LEVEL OF, OF DETAIL.
I'D LIKE TO COMMENT, UM, MAY I'VE YEAH, THANKS.
UM, YEAH, I THINK IT IS DEFINITELY CITY MANAGER, BUT WHEN WE HEAR FROM RESIDENTS AND WE HEAR THE FEEDBACK AND IT'S OUR JOB TO TAKE THE FEEDBACK, BRING IT TO COUNCIL, AND THEN WE BRING THAT UP AS AN EXCEPTION TO ADDRESS.
SO, UM, I THINK IT'S, I THINK THE PROCESS IS WORKING AND, AND YOU GUYS BRING THIS UP.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT AND THE FACT THAT IT, THAT IT HAS CHANGED THE, THE OVER TIME WE HAVE ADDED MORE DRIVERS AND MORE SERVICES TO AND SUCH.
I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF LOWERING IT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW LOW WE CAN LOWER IT WITHOUT HAVING TO DO SOME OTHER PROCESS.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT FOR THE REASONS OF, UM, PEOPLE THAT WOULD SPEED ANYWAY.
UM, SO WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO PUT BACK IN THE, UH, THE, THE CROSSWALK NOTIFICATION ALSO? UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE RAPIDLY FLASHING LIGHTS OR IF IT'S SOMETHING GREATER THAN THAT.
WHAT, WHAT'S INVOLVED THERE? AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDER TOO.
SO THE, UM, RAPID REC, RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASHING BEACON, IT'S A MOUTHFUL.
IT'S RFV, UM, WAS REMOVED DUE TO ITS DISTANCE TO, UM, THE STOP SIGN.
SO YOU CANNOT HAVE INDIVIDUALS STOP AT A CROSSING WHERE INDIVIDUALS WOULD CROSS AND THEN BARELY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRAVEL A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND STOP AGAIN.
UM, AND SO NOW THE STOP SIGN IS, UM, THE AREA OF WHICH THE CROSSWALK IS.
SO SOME OF THOSE VISIBILITY ENHANCEMENTS WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE PUTTING BLINKING RED LIGHT SIGNS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE WORKING TO ADDRESS RIGHT NOW IS THERE IS A LOT OF TREE CANOPY AND THOSE ARE SOLAR POWERED.
AND SO I'M WORKING ON SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN TRY TO ADDRESS THAT.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ENHANCING THE CROSSWALK AT MORRISON COR TO TRY TO BRING MORE LIGHT AND VISIBILITY TO THAT AREA WITH PAINT.
UM, THAT, UH, WE WILL BE ABLE TO EITHER BE STRIPED OR ADD SOME ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS IN THAT AREA.
SO, UM, AT THIS TIME, UM, WE CANNOT GO BACK AND INSTALL THAT RFB, UM, THAT CLOSE TO THE SAW.
I WASN'T FAMILIAR THAT THERE THERE WAS ANY SEPARATION.
UH, IS IS THERE A WAY TO PUT IN A CROSSWALK AT THE STOP SIGN? SOME, UM, OR JUST THIS ADDITIONAL ENHANCE ENHANCEMENT OF THE STOP SIGN IS THE ONLY OFFICER.
UM, THERE IS ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE THAT WE CAN PUT SPECIFICALLY ON OR IN THE LOCATION OF THE STOP SIGN TO, UM, LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT IS A CROSSWALK.
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IS KNOWN THAT WHEN YOU STOP AT A STOP SIGN, PEDESTRIANS HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY OR THE CROSSWALK I I'LL BEFORE ANY SORT OF ENHANCEMENTS, WE CAN HAVE TO INCREASE THAT.AND I'LL ALSO BE IN FAVOR OF, I, I DON'T, AND YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS, I MISSED IT, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT ILLUMINATING THE STOP SIGN.
SO, SO THE STOP SIGN ITSELF WILL HAVE THE LIGHTS ON IT.
AND THEN, UM, ALSO LOOKING AT THE OPTION OF DOING IT FRONT AND BACK, BECAUSE WHERE THE OTHER STOP SIGN IS UNDER THE CANOPY AND PROBABLY WON'T GET THE LIGHT IT NEEDS.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING SOME OF THOSE ENHANCEMENTS WHERE THERE IS THE LIGHTING, YOU KNOW, THE FLASHING LIGHT OF THE STOP SIGN AND EVERYTHING AT NIGHT.
IT WON'T BE THAT ACTUAL, WHAT WE HAD OUT THERE FOR THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
ANY, ANY SORT OF ADDITIONAL PEDESTRIAN CROSSING VISIBILITY WOULD BE REALLY, UH, TOP OF THE LIST FOR PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THERE.
AND ALSO, UH, JUST TO AIRPORT, AIRPORT PARK WISE, BE IN FAVOR OF THAT ALL.
SO THE NEXT SECTION IS MUCH MORE IN RETAIL AND ANY WAREHOUSE TYPE SPACE.
I JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE HAVEN'T, CHRIS BROUGHT THIS UP NUMEROUS TIMES WHEN WE SAY THERE'S A CROSSWALK THERE, THE KID DOESN'T LOOK LIKE, COMPARED TO CITY CROSSWALKS, OUR CROSSWALKS LOOK LIKE ALMOST AN AFTERTHOUGHT.
LIKE PAINT A STRIPE, SLAP THE SIGN UP AND WE'RE OUT HERE IN AN HOUR.
I'D RATHER REALLY INVEST THE TIME AND REPAIR CITY CROSSWALK.
I CAN TAKE PICTURES AND SEND THEM IN BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I FEEL SAFE WHEN I'M HAVING TO CROSS NOT JUST THAT ONE LOCATION THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
WE CAN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR, FOR ME FOR TWO YEARS.
AND THAT IS PART OF THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
A SIGN, SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS HAVING A TOOLKIT LOOKING ACROSS THE TOWN, HOW THAT WORKS.
I WILL SAY AS WE TALK ABOUT GOING DOWN TO 20, WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANNA DO.
WE'RE COMFORTABLE, WE'RE COMFORTABLE REDUCING SPEED LIMITS ACROSS THE ENTIRE TOWN.
IF WE WANT TO HAVE A MISSION TO REDUCE SPEED LIMITS IN TOWN, WE WILL DO THAT.
WE'LL HAVE THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, SAY REDUCE SPEED LIMITS.
IF YOU HAVE FOUR LANES, A FOUR LANE ROAD THAT ARE WIDE LANES THAT PEOPLE CAN DRIVE DOWN, YOU'RE INVITING THEM TO DRIVE OVER 20 MILES AN HOUR AND THEN YOU'RE SETTING A SPEED LIMIT THAT'S 20, THAT'S FINE.
BUT KEEP IN MIND, AS WE GO FORWARD AND WE HAVE PROJECTS TO TRY TO MAKE PEOPLE DRIVE SLOWER, IT IS MORE THAN JUST A SPEED LIMIT AND YOU'RE GONNA PUT OUR OFFICERS IN A COMFORTABLE SPOT.
'CAUSE WE'RE INVITING PEOPLE TO DRIVE OVER 20 AND THEN WE'RE PUTTING A SPEED LIMIT ON IT DOESN'T MATCH THE ROAD.
SO WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? I MEAN, HAVE WE DECIDED WE ARE KNOCKING A NARROW FORM IN THAT AREA BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE AND THE BIKE LANE, THE BIKE LANE PROJECT? WE'RE GOING, WE'RE TALKING WITH THE BUSINESSES, WE'RE LISTENING TO THEM.
WE ARE GONNA LOOK AT, BASED ON THEIR FEEDBACK, CONTINUING WITH ALL LANES OF TRAFFIC AND IN THAT SECTION FROM AIRPORT DOWN TO THE CIRCLE, JUST DOING SOME ARROWS FOR BIKES AND KEEPING THE LANES NORTH AND SOUTH.
WE'RE CONTINUING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND WE'RE TALKING TO THE BUSINESSES, BUT THAT PROJECT WOULD NOT NARROW THE LANES.
SO I, I THINK A COUPLE THINGS.
I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR MAKING THAT AREA SAFER.
THIS ISN'T THE ONLY AREA THOUGH THAT WE HAVE PROBLEMS. I KNOW MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE HAVE SPEEDING.
SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, ADDRESS ALL OF THIS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE IF WE TAKE IT FROM 30 TO 20, I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THAT'S REALLY GONNA DO ANYTHING.
I THINK WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SPEED AND COULD CARE LESS.
SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT ARE WE NARROWING OR NOT.
I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CONVINCED THAT YOU NARROW LANES THAT THAT SLOWS DRIVERS, BUT I'M, I'M OPEN.
UM, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO? UM, IT'S A HALF MILE AND I GET EVERYTHING YOU SAID IT'S DENSE.
WE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT AREA.
I MEAN, AT WHAT I, BECKY DOES HAVE HER LITTLE TOOLKIT OF CROSSWALKS, WHICH I'M SO HAPPY TO SEE BECAUSE WE, WE, WE'VE NEEDED THEM FOR YEARS.
WE'RE DOING A GREAT JOB OF BUILDING OUT THIS TRAIL SYSTEM.
I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN REALLY LACKING IN THE CROSSWALKS.
I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AND BECKY IS REALLY WORKING REALLY HARD TO GET US SOME OPTIONS.
SO YES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THAT IN THE CIRCLE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE SPEED LIMIT NEEDS TO BE, BUT I GUESS, GUESS MY QUESTION IS, ARE THERE OTHER THINGS WE SHOULD CONSIDER DOING SINCE IT'S ONLY A HALF MILE? I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT, I THINK THEY'RE CALLED SPEED SHELVES, WHERE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO SLOW DOWN.
UM, I, I MEAN I KNOW THERE'S ISSUES WITH BUSES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD HELP BUSES, UM, SLOW DOWN, BUT I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT AS WELL.
AND I THINK DAVID HAS BEEN NAIL ON THE HEAD.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THE COUNTERMEASURES OF THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION HAVE PUT FORWARD IS TO LOOK AT SPEEDING AND LOOK AT WAYS TO MAKE THE ROADWAY SAFE.
AND THE PLAN FOR THAT ROADWAY WAS DOING SOME OF THOSE THINGS WITH THE ROAD DIET, THE BIKE LANES, ADDING ADDITIONAL
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PEDESTRIAN ENHANCEMENTS.ONE OF THE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND IN THIS AREA WITH THE CROSS BOX, THERE ARE BRICK PAVERS IN THOSE AREAS.
SO YOU HAVE TO BE VERY, UH, TAKE A CONCENTRATED EFFORT IN MAKING SURE WITH WHATEVER WE PUT DOWN, ONE CAN BE MAINTAINED.
BUT MANY TIMES WHEN YOU PUT PAINT ON BRICK, IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT VERY SLICK.
AND SO THERE ARE SAFETY HAZARDS THAT WE HAVE TO EVALUATE.
SO I THINK TO EXPLAIN TO YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT EVERY OPTION THAT IS OUT THERE TO TRY TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT WE ARE RECEIVING.
UM, BUT REALLY WE USE THESE GUIDELINES AND, AND THIS COMES STRAIGHT FROM, LIKE I SAID, THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION AND MAKING THE ROAD DIET WITH NARROWING THE LANES, MAKING THE MEDIAS WIDER, ADDING THE BIKE LANES, ADDING ADDITIONAL WALKWAYS, RFPS, WHEN THOSE ARE NEEDED.
YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE REALLY THE TOOLS TO USE.
UM, NOT SPECIFICALLY LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT CAN BE EVALUATED, BUT MAKING THE ROADWAY FEEL SAFER IS BY ADDING THESE ADDITIONAL, WHAT WE CONSIDER CONTEXT SENSITIVE DESIGN, LOOKING AT THE AREA AND MAKING IT SPECIFIC TO WHAT WAS ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
SO I WOULD SAY FOR THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY, UP UNTIL LAST WEEK, WE WERE HAD THIS BIKE LANE PROJECT THAT WOULD'VE DONE SOME OF THESE THINGS.
WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT IN THIS STRETCH NOW THAT'S GREAT.
SO WE'LL LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS.
AND SO THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
WHAT IF YOU MADE THE CROSSWALKS ELEVATED A BIT SO IT WOULD FORCE DRIVERS TO SLOW DOWN IN THAT AREA.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE EVALUATED AT THE INTERSECTIONS.
IT'S JUST ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION THAT WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT.
UM, BUT KEEP IN MIND YOU'LL HAVE PEOPLE NOW RIDING ON BICYCLES THAT ARE NOW GOING OVER SOME OF THOSE SAME PUMPS.
SO IT'S A, IT IS A LOT OF CONFLICTING THINGS AND, AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE BUS AND UM, I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH DARDEN.
THEY'RE VERY, UM, ACTIVELY WATCHING THIS AREA AND, UM, ARE VERY CONSCIENTIOUSLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE BUSES AND ACTUALLY HAVE SUPERVISORS OUT THERE.
I'LL PUT A MORE, I'LL PUT A FINER POINT ON THAT.
WE ARE BEING VERY POINTED WITH DART TELLING THEM THAT WE WANT THOSE ROUTES MOVED TO ADDISON ROAD BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED AND TO EITHER MOVE 'EM OR TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO, IF THERE, IF THERE'S NOT SIDEWALKS TO GET OVER THERE, IF THERE'S, WHAT EXACTLY DO WE NEED? SO WE ARE PRESSING THEM FOR THAT INFORMATION AND EITHER THEY'RE GONNA MOVE 'EM OR THEY'RE GONNA TELL US WHAT WE NEED AND WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
BUT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET DART TO MOVE THOSE BUSES OFF OF FORM.
I HAVE A QUICK, QUICK, QUICK ADD TO GET BACK TO TWO THREE'S POINT ABOUT DISCRETION FROM A, FROM AN OFFICER TO SIT THERE AND SAY, YEAH, YOU'RE DOING 36 AND A 30.
I DON'T THINK I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A TICKET TODAY.
DAN, YOU HAVE A REALLY NICE SMILE.
I CAN TELL YOU I DRIVE ABOUT 15 TO 20,000 MILES A YEAR ON THE HIGHWAY.
AND WHEN I HAVE BEEN PULLED OVER BY SADIE AND HAVE BEEN CITED, WHICH TALKED MOST IN A FEW YEARS BECAUSE I'VE RUN MY LESSON AND SLOW DOWN, THEY GAVE ME A 10 PERCENTAGE PHYSICALLY SAID, OR VERBALLY TOLD ME, SIR, YOU WERE DOING 10% OVER THE 75 MILE HOUR SPEED LIMIT.
WE WOULD, WE WOULD WATCH YOU DRIVE RIGHT ON BY, BUT THE MINUTE YOU WENT A MILE OVER THAT 10% WE'RE LINING YOU UP.
AND THAT'S JUST FOR KNOWLEDGE FOR YOU TO KNOW, YOU CAN PRESS THE 10%.
IF WE LOOKED AT 30 TO DO 33 IS ONE THING, WE'RE NOT DOING A 10%.
IF SOMEONE'S DOING 36 AND A 30, LIKE HOWARD AND I TALKED ABOUT, YOU MAY AS WELL DO 50.
YOU AS WELL DO FASTER BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A TIGHT, COMPRESSED AREA.
HENCE WHY I'M GONNA PUSH FOR 20 MILE HOUR ZONE AND LET'S ENFORCE IF THEY'RE DOING TOMORROW MORNING, IF THEY'RE DOING 33, YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.
ANYTHING OVER 33, I, I'D LOVE TO STAND THERE, WRITE TICKETS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOTTA CHANGE THE CULTURE.
AND YOU SEE SOMEONE PULLED OVER AND YOU'RE THAT GUY WHO DOES THAT, THAT GALA DOES IT FEW MILES AN HOUR.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GIVING OUR CONSTITUENTS, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GIVING THE VISITORS, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GIVING THE SERVICE SECTOR AMPLE NOTIFICATION THAT WE NEED BUSINESS.
WE'RE HERE TO ENFORCE THE LAW, THE SPEED OF THE DISPARITY, THATS WHY IT'S GONE A RIDE.
AND THEN YOU TAKE THE BUSES AND COMPOUND THAT PROPERTY.
I DON'T CARE IF IT'S AN AMAZON TRUCK OR A BUS, IT MAKES A LOT MORE NOISE TO STOP AND START THOSE VEHICLES, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE NOT BEING MAINTAINED WITH THEIR BRAKING.
SO I, I REALLY DO WISH, REGARDLESS 2025 OR 30, WE MUST USE A 10% CURSOR IF THE STATE PATROL'S USING IT.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE OUR, OUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES.
I CIRCULATED A SURVEY IN THAT AREA AND I GOT BACK 83 CERVIX.
THIS IS A VERY UNSCIENTIFIC TEST THAT I WANTED TO DO FOR MYSELF.
THIS CAME 'CAUSE OF THOSE BUSES.
I WAS THERE POINTING TO KNOW ABOUT THE BUSES AND THE PEOPLE I WAS TALKING TO WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SPEED AND THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT TAKING THE LANES OUT ON BOARD.
SO I SUMMARIZED ALL OF THESE AND I'LL PASS THIS OUT UNLESS THIS IS ILLEGAL.
I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT THESE ARE.
SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE PEOPLE THAT WITNESS THERE SAID, THIS WENT TO PROBABLY 300 PEOPLE.
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I GOT 83 BACK AND THIS TELLS YOU WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT WELL TO THE BUSES AND THE LANES AND THE SPEEDING.BUT THE SPEEDING WAS WHAT STARTED IT.
AND SO I GOT COMMENTS BACK OF ALL IT SO YOU CAN READ THESE ARE, THESE ARE WHAT THE COMMENTS WERE FROM THE PEOPLE WHO GOT IT.
I DID NOT TAKE OUT ANY THAT SAID THEY WANT TO KEEP THE LANES, THEY WANT TAKE OUT THE LANES.
THEY'RE HAPPY WITH THE SPEED, THEY'RE NOT HAPPY.
THIS IS JUST WHAT THOSE PEOPLE SAID AND PASS.
HEY HOWARD, CAN I GET A COPY OF THAT SURVEY THAT ROB RESULTS? RESULTS? UH, YEAH.
NOT A, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A BLANK ONE HERE, BUT THESE ARE ALL FILLED IN.
THE RAW RESULTS OF ALL THAT IS THE RESULTS.
I MEAN THE, THE DETAIL HE GOING TO SEE THE, HE'S GOING TO SEE ALL, WELL, A COPY OF THAT.
YOU WANT A COPY OF EVERY ONE OF THESE OR A COPY OF JUST THE SURVEY ITSELF.
YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT AND DISCUSSING WILL HAVE TO BE, BECOME PART OF THE PACKET IN THE OFFICIAL RECORDS.
I MEAN, I, I'M STILL GETTING EM BACK, BUT I KEEP UPDATING AND THIS, THIS IS JUST, I WANTED TO KNOW, I, HERE, I'M GONNA HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS, BUT I, I WANTED TO KNOW.
SO, SO I MEAN I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE SHOWN US, BUT THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE ARE SAYING, AT LEAST THE ONES THAT RESPONDED TO THIS AND I HAVE ALL THE DETAILS WITH IT.
SO, UM, BASICALLY IS THIS SPEEDING A PROBLEM? 60, 60 SAID YES.
24 SAID NO THEN WHAT THEY WANT 31, KEEP IT AT 30 33 SAID PROBABLY TO 25, 20 SAID DROP IT AT 20.
UM, THIS NEW STOP SIGN, 64 PEOPLE LIKED IT, FIVE DIDN'T 'CAUSE OF THE BRAKING.
DO YOU RIDE THE BUS? WHAT DO YOU LIKE IT? DO YOU WANT 'EM TO MOVE? WHATEVER.
AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE BIKE LANES? AND WHAT ABOUT THE, THE, UM, CHANGING THE VEHICLE LANE? SO YOU CAN SEE 67 SAID DON'T CHANGE THE LANES IN 12 SAYS, DAVID HAS TOLD ME SEVERAL TIMES THAT NARROWING WILL SLOW DOWN THE SPEED.
I THINK MARKING UNMARKED CARS OR EVEN MARKED CARS WILL CHANGE PEOPLE BEHAVIOR GIVING TICKETS.
LIKE ONCE THEY GET USED TO IT, THEY'LL GET USED TO IT GOING OFF TO SPEED THEM JUST LIKE A SCHOOL ONE.
AND I THINK IT LOOK LIKE, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY.
AND, AND, AND I HEARD IT FROM EVERYBODY THAT I TALKED TO.
NOBODY SAID, OH NO, THEY'RE, I'M MY SON SAID RUN HERE, BUT NOBODY SAID THEY'RE NOT SPEEDING.
AND I'VE BEEN THERE SO MANY TIMES NOW AND THEY'RE FLYING BY ME AND I'M THIS BAD IT BAD.
AND DON'T GET ME WRONG, HOWARD, I BELIEVE YOU ON THE, ON THE SURVEY.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE THE DETAIL OF IT, SO OH, I KNOW, I MEAN DETAILS.
ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE HERE ARE HERE AND, AND I DIDN'T TRY TO SLAM IT SO I DID WHATEVER RESPONSE I FIGURED, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THEY THOUGHT.
SO SOME OTHER TOWNS HAVE TRAFFIC ADVISORY COMMITTEES OR SIMILAR TO THAT.
I DON'T ASSUME THAT WE, WE REALLY NECESSARILY NEED IT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SUGGEST FOR, UH, CITIZEN INPUT OR 'CAUSE COMMITTEES ARE CITIZEN COMMITTEES.
I'VE WORKED IN TOWNS WITH TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMISSIONS AND BEEN THE DIRECTOR RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE.
AND I'VE WORKED IN TOWNS THAT DID NOT HAVE THEM.
UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LEAVE THAT UP TO THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE HIS RECOMMENDATION, BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO, KIND OF GO EITHER WAY DEPENDING UPON THE FEEDBACK RECEIVED.
SO I, I'VE BEEN, UH, RESPONSIBLE FOR DEPARTMENTS THAT HAD THOSE.
DAVID, WHEN DID, UM, WHEN DID YOU SAY THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN MIGHT, MIGHT GET TO US? AUGUST, 2025 IS WHEN IT WILL BE COMPLETED, SIR.
UH, YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU AND NANCY.
NANCY, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? WELL, UM, MY QUESTION IS, UM, I MEAN BEEN LISTENING TO ALL OF THIS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, SOME OF 'EM HAVE BEEN MENTIONED, BUT ANY OTHER, UM, UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES ON, ON LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT THAT MAYBE HAVE NOT BEEN DISCUSSED? I, I THINK ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL THINGS, AND I I'VE TRIED TO SHOW IT WITHIN THIS DATA IS THAT 85% OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING ON THIS ROADWAY ARE DRIVING 33 OR LESS.
SO SOMETIMES I'VE FOUND THROUGHOUT MY CAREER THAT SPEED IS, UH, SPEED IS ACTUALLY PERCEIVED.
AND MANY TIMES I'VE ACTUALLY TAKEN OFFICERS, UM, OUT TO THOSE LOCATIONS AND HAD THEM ACTUALLY STAND WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO FEEL THAT FOLKS ARE SPEEDING WITH RADAR GUNS THAT HELP EXPLAIN WHAT ACTUALLY IS HAPPENING IN THAT AREA.
AND 95% OF THE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING 35 MILES PER HOUR OR LESS.
SO THAT MEANS THERE'S ONLY 5% THAT ARE DRIVING OVER 36 MILES PER HOUR.
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I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHERE THE, THE PROOF IS IN THE, IN THE DATA IS THAT INDIVIDUALS MAYBE ARE NOT DRIVING AS FAST AS WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEING PERCEIVED.AND, AND THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M USING FROM THIS INFORMATION THAT I HAVE ON THAT GRAPH.
IS THAT JUST AT MORRIS OR IS THAT FOR THAT WHOLE FOUR TENTHS OF A MILE? IT IS.
WHEN YOU DRIVE PAST THIS SIGN LOCATED RIGHT HERE, THAT'S SOUTHBOUND SHORTER.
SO JUST AT THAT ONE SPOT, THAT IS THE ONLY LOCATION WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR, OUR FEET.
AND, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT'S, THIS WAS THE QUICKEST WAY WE CAN GET DATA 'CAUSE WE HAVE THE DRIVER FEEDBACK SIGN A MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WE'LL DO A MUCH MORE IN DEPTH ACCOUNTING OF WHAT THE SPEED IS.
WE USE THE MOST MEDIA DATA WE HAD.
IS THAT THAT ONE SPOT NORTH SIDE OF IT? BUT YEAH, I KNOW WHERE THAT'S AT.
SO IT'S THE MOST REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLE THAT I HAVE OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW IN THAT AREA, BUT IT'S ONLY THAT I CAN EASILY GRAB.
IT'S ONLY THAT, THAT ONE SPOT.
SO WHERE THE PEOPLE LIVE AND THEY'RE CROSSING AND WALKING, IT IS FURTHER SOUTH THAN THAT REALLY WHERE I THINK THE PROBLEM IS.
I WAS THERE AT NIGHT TALKING TO PEOPLE AND I IT DID FEEL LIKE CARS FLYING BY.
AND THE BUS, EVEN IF THEY WERE GOING THE EXACT SAME SPEED AS THE CARS, IT FEELS A LOT MORE INTIMIDATING.
UM, I GUESS NOBODY BROUGHT UP SPEED BUMPS.
IS THERE A REASON WHY THEY, THESE OBVIOUSLY HIGHER HAVE TO GO? IT ACTUALLY SLOWS DOWN THE RESPONSE TIME TOO.
IT'S NOT A DETAILED CONVERSATION I'VE HAD WITH THE OKAY.
SO WHAT THAT WAS MY QUESTION FOR YOU WAS THE TIMING OF THE, UH, MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
WE'RE MAKING SOME VERY GOOD PROGRESS RECEIVED SOME VERY GOOD FEEDBACK.
UM, AND WORKING AS SOON AS WE'RE READY FOR A DRAFT TO BRING THAT FORWARD THROUGH THE COUNCIL PROCESS.
UM, WITH THE FINAL ADOPTION WE'RE IN HOPE TO AUGUST, UM, WHICH IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH ALSO SOME OF THE OTHER PLANS THAT OUR FRIENDS IN DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES ARE WORKING ON.
AND WHO'S PART OF THAT PROCESS? THE PLAN, UM, THE INDIVIDUALS ARE PART OF THAT PROCESS ARE, UM, DIRECTORS FROM THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, UM, DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, UM, OUR STAFF THAT HAS BEEN HIRED, UM, OR OUR CONSULTANTS THAT HAVE BEEN HIRED.
UM, AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES AT TIMES THAT COME FROM PD OR FIRE THAT WE BOUNCE IDEAS OFF OF.
SO IT'S A REPRESENTATIVE, UM, OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ALL THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY.
UM, SO, SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN ISSUE OVER HERE WITH SPEED AND THE PERCEPTION OF SPEED AND, AND, AND, AND YOU MADE THE POINT THAT A LOT OF TIMES IT'S, IT'S A PERCEPTION.
AND IS, IS IT CORRECT THAT THE LARGER THE VEHICLE THAT'S PERCEIVED TO BE GOING FASTER IF THEY'RE GOING AT THE SAME SPEED? THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, SO, SO I GET ALL THAT AND FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M NOT A, I'M NOT A, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE IS HERE.
UH, SO I, IT'S WAY OUTSIDE OF MY LANE, PARDON UPON TO MAKE DECISIONS ON HOW FAST THE SPEED SHOULD BE ON ANY GIVEN ROAD.
UH, BUT I'D BE IN FAVOR OF LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT THERE.
I DON'T SEE 20 MILES AN HOUR AS BEING A MANAGEABLE SPEED.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A HALF A MILE SCHOOL ZONE THAT'S REALLY LONG, 25 MILES AN HOUR.
THAT'S A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IF THAT'S TO ME, FOR ME, IF THAT'S SLOW ENOUGH IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD FOR IT TO HAVE THAT AS A SPEED LIMIT, IT SHOULD BE SLOW ENOUGH ON AN ARTERIAL.
WOULD YOU CALL THIS AN ARTERIAL? UM, MORE THAN LIKELY A COLLECTOR, BUT MAYBE A SECONDARY ARTERIAL.
WE'RE WORKING ON THAT CLASSIFICATION THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION.
BUT IT'S NOT A RESIDENTIAL STREET, EVEN THOUGH THERE THAT'S CORRECT.
THERE IS RESIDE, IT IS RESIDENTIAL.
SO IT'S, SO 25 WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE HARD FOR, IT'S HARD FOR FOLKS TO DRIVE 25.
HARD, HARD FOR ME TO DRIVE 25.
UM, BUT, BUT I DO IT WHEN I NEED TO.
UM, BUT I, BUT SO I'M, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF LOWERING THE SPEED, BUT I THINK GOING TOO LOW, I THINK YOU'RE JUST ASKING FOR, UM, LACK OF COMPLIANCE.
BUT I ALSO DO THINK THAT WE CAN CREATE A, A REPUTATION OF ENFORCEMENT ON THAT ROAD SAME, SAME WAY WE DO ON ARAPAHOE, THE WHEELER BRIDGE, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THE SIGN UP THIS HIGH ENFORCEMENT AREA AND FOR THE MOST PART PEOPLE COMPLIED PRETTY WELL GOING OVER THE WHEELER BRIDGE WHEN I, YOU KNOW, I LIVED IN THE NORTH PART OF ADDISON UP AT, SO UP SOJOURN, NORTHERN BOUND OF ADDISON.
SO WHEN I GO AHEAD SOUTH ON MIDWAY FROM SOJOURN BETWEEN SOJOURN AND KELLER SPRINGS PRETTY, BUT 99% OF THE TRAFFIC IS GOING 40 MILES AN HOUR OR LESS.
IT'S 40 MILE AN HOUR ZONE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT ON THE RIGHT SIDE, ON THE CARROLLTON SIDE,
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THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE THERE'S GONNA BE ONE OF THEIR TAHOES WAITING FOR 'EM.SO, AND THEY'VE BUILT THEIR REPUTATION OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
AND SO PEOPLE KNOW, AND ONCE IN A WHILE YOU'LL GET SOMEBODY THAT'S, THAT THEY, THEY'RE NOT FAMILIAR AND YOU'LL SEE THEM FLY BY AND IT'S, IT'S NOT A SURPRISE WHEN YOU SEE 'EM PULLED OVER.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN CREATE THAT REPUTATION.
SO I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A COMBINATION OF ALL OF IT AND ALL THE, THE DIFFERENT TRICKS AND TOOLS YOU HAVE THAT YOU CAN USE THAT THERE.
BUT I THINK WE, WE NEED TO MAKE IT AS SAFE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
MAKE THOSE CROSSWALKS AS VISIBLE AS POSSIBLE, ILLUMINATE THOSE STOPS AND DO ALL, DO ALL OF THE ABOVE.
UH, AND THEN, THEN FIND OUT WHAT THAT RIGHT SPEED IS.
AND I'M OKAY WITH WAITING UNTIL THE TRANSPORTATION, UH, PLAN IS, IS COMPLETE.
WE'VE HAD, IT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT'S, THAT'S CAME UPON US OVERNIGHT AND SO WE SHOULDN'T NOT, I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD MAKE A RASH DECISION, SAY JUST RANDOMLY.
WE SHOULD CHANGE IT TO A 22 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT OR SOMETHING.
SO THAT, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
CHIEF, DO YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT YOU NEED TO ENFORCE THAT AREA? AND THEN WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS, I MEAN I KNOW THERE WAS TIMES WHEN WE HAD MOTORCYCLES, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE MOTORCYCLE COPS.
WHERE ARE WE ON THAT AND DO YOU HAVE ALL THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO ENFORCE THAT AREA? YES SIR.
SIR, WE HAVE TWO MOTORCYCLE OFFICERS AND THEY BOUNCE AROUND TOWN.
UH, THEY HIT A BRIDGE, THEY HIT UM, SMALLER SCHOOL ZONES.
THEY'VE BEEN DOING ENFORCEMENT, UH, AREAS HERE ON CORRUM.
UM, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO IS THEY WORK TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS.
THEY, THEY DO, UH, THE SPEED
CAN I SAY ONE OTHER THING IN THE TOM THUMB PARKING LOT NEAR MY HOUSE, IT'S ACTUALLY DALLAS, BUT THEY HAVE THESE ACTUALLY THERE CAMERAS, BUT THEY HAVE FLASHING RED AND BLUE LIGHTS ON 'EM AND THEY'RE IN THE PARKING LOT AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, STOP CAR BREAKING.
BUT IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT ALONG FOR 'EM, MAYBE WITH THE LIGHTS WOULD CAUSE BEHAVIOR CHANGE OR PARK A CAR THERE THAT'S, NOBODY'S EVEN IN IT.
PARK A SQUAD CAR AND PEOPLE SEE IT AND THEN SLOW DOWN.
I THINK THERE'S THINGS WE COULD DO TO, TO CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR AND IT WOULDN'T COST THAT MUCH.
AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD WAIT THREE MONTHS BECAUSE I THINK IT'D BE PRETTY SIMPLE.
SO I DON'T KNOW TONIGHT THIS IS, THIS IS NOT A MEETING TO VOTE ON IT, RIGHT? NO, THIS IS DIRECTION OR DIRECTION.
SO I PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PUT THINGS OFF THAT.
I THINK IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE IN EVERYBODY'S REPORTS WHEN WE HAD THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION.
SO TO ME, WHY WAIT THREE MORE MONTHS TO JUST CHANGE THE SIGNS.
BUT, AND ONE OTHER THING I WAS GONNA SAY, WE HAD THOSE FLASHING LIGHTS AT THE STOP SIGN AND HE TOOK THOSE OUT WITH THE STOP SIGNS.
WERE THOSE SOLAR POWERED OR WERE THOSE, DID THEY HAVE ELECTRICITY ON IT? UM, ONE OF THE SIDES WERE ACTUALLY SOLAR POWERED.
SO WE'RE WORKING TO SEE IF SOME SIMILAR, IT ACTUALLY HAD TO BE, UM, DOUBLE WIRED AND IT WAS VERY WEIRD THE WAY THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY WIRED TOGETHER.
SO I'M WORKING TO TRY TO RECREATE THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT, UM, I MENTIONED AND ALSO ASHLEY MENTIONED IS WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THE SOLAR PANEL AND THEN WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT ACTUALLY CAN ILLUMINATE.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS ANYWHERE WHERE YOU HAVE SOLAR PANEL.
UM, THERE'S A LARGE TRICKY, AS YOU ARE AWARE IN THAT AREA.
AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECEIVE THIS SUNLIGHT SO THAT THOSE WILL WORK AT NIGHTTIME.
I DIDN'T KNOW THOSE OTHER LIGHTS WERE SOLAR POWERED.
I JUST, WHEN DRIVING DOWN AT NIGHT, YOU SAW THOSE LIGHTS AND NOW THEY'RE GONE AND YOU JUST HAVE STOP SIGNS AND YOU CAN'T SEE A DOG WALKING IF THEY'RE ON A LEASH.
I MEAN, HOPEFULLY PEOPLE STOP AT THE STOP SIGNS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE RIDING A LOT OF TICKETS BECAUSE THEY'RE RUNNING RIGHT THROUGH THE STOP SIGNS.
WE'VE HAD ACCIDENTS AT LEAST ONE SINCE THE STOP SIGNS WENT IN.
SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THE STOP SIGNS.
BUT I WISH WE COULD KEEP THE LIGHTS TOO.
I THAT ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS GONNA BE WHY ARE WE BRINGING THIS FORWARD RIGHT NOW TODAY? BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES OUT THERE, UM, THAT, THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
UM, BUT I GUESS I UNDERSTAND THERE'S AN ISSUE THERE.
I MEAN, I FEEL FOR OTHER PEOPLE IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES.
THAT'S WHY I AM HAPPY THAT THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS COMING FORWARD.
I MEAN, I'M OKAY REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT NOW I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER NEEDS TO BE, WHETHER IT'S 20 OR 25.
UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, US CONTINUE TO HAVE A PRESENCE OUT THERE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S HOW, YOU KNOW, MY BEHAVIOR CHANGES IF I GET PULLED OVER OR I SEE SOMEONE BEING PULLED OVER, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT ABSOLUTELY MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO ME.
SO I GUESS I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF, IF WE WANNA LOWER IT, LOWER IT, WE GUESS WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN TO I GUESS DO DEEPER DIVES INTO ALL OF THESE AREAS.
LET'S SEE HOW THAT COMES BACK.
BUT IN THE SHORT RUN, I'M OKAY LOWERING IT AND,
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AND CONTINUE TO, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT NOTE RIGHT THERE ON THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION UPDATE.IT, IT MENTIONS AS EXAMPLES, SOME OF THE KEY ROADS THAT CAN BE STUDY IT'S BEYOND THIS, CORRECT? OR IS THAT IT? THAT'S THE ENTIRE TIME.
THOSE ARE JUST ONES THAT WE COULD ANTICIPATE LOOKING AT SPEED LIMITS ON, BUT THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS EVERY ROAD IN TIME.
THOSE ARE JUST SOME, THEY WERE JUST EXAMPLES MAKING SURE NOTHING TO KEEP IN MIND TOO AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS, THAT IF THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE MADE, IT COULD BE A CHANGE.
YOU KNOW, YOU MAKE A CHANGE AND THEN THREE MONTHS LATER OR FOUR MONTHS LATER YOU MIGHT TO MAKE A DIFFERENT CHANGE.
SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND.
HERE WE ARE, WE WE'RE IN SEPTEMBER, WE GET THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
THEY SAY LEAVE IT ALONE AT 30.
DO WE START OUR CONVERSATION BACK OVER ALL OVER AGAIN? IF THEY WERE, LEAVE IT ALONE HYPOTHETICALLY AT 30.
IF Y'ALL, IF Y'ALL GIVE THE DIRECTION TO SET THE SPEED LIMIT, THE SPEED LIMIT WOULD BE WHAT YOU GIVE DIRECTION FOR.
'CAUSE THAT'S MY FEAR IS THAT TRANS AUGUST WILL COME ROLLING AROUND THE TRANSPORTATION NOT WILL COME OUT.
ENGINEERS WILL SAY, NO THIRTY'S GOOD.
AMOUNT OF TRANSPORTATION PLAN DOES NOT TRUMP THE COUNCIL.
SO TO MY, TO MY POINT TO MY FELLOW COUNSEL MEMBERS, I THINK THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS NOT A TOUGH DECISION.
YOU CONSTITUENTS IN THAT AREA, THEY'RE REALLY UPSET AND HE'S GOT THE PACKET.
SORRY, I DON'T MIND BEATING ON SOME DOORS BY BETTER HEALTH.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT A BIG ASK TO LEVEL THE SPEED IN THAT AREA WHERE IT'S SO CONCENTRATED.
I, IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF WE'RE WHEEL OF BRIDGE AREA OR SOMEONE US MIGHT CARE LESS.
THIS IS AN AREA I CARE ABOUT THAT'S AN UPSET FOR ME.
COULD WE DO IT? AND IN 90 DAYS WE'LL HAVE FEEDBACK.
IS IT WORKING, IS IT NOT? AND THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS BEING PUT OUT.
IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, HERE WAS A LITTLE TEST, DIDN'T WORK, FAILED, OR HEY, IT WORKED.
I I I WOULD THINK THAT REASONABLE OR IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, A REASONABLE A A PROPOSITION WOULD BE TO LOWER IT TO 25.
NOW MAKE SURE THAT IT IS THOROUGHLY STUDIED DURING THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
AND, UM, AND KIND OF KEEP, KEEP AN EYE ON IT, SEE IF THAT DOES CORRECT IT, YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT EFFECT IT DOES HAVE ON IT AS LONG AS, UM, GO BACK TO ANY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT ARE, THAT, THAT MIGHT CAUSE.
AND, UM, SEE IF ANYTHING COMES UP.
SO DAVID, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING.
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD EVEN VOTE ON? I JUST NEED DIRECTION IF YOU WANT DIRECTION 25 AND 20.
SO, SO THE ONES WHO WANTED LOWER SPEEDS, UH, ARE YOU OKAY WITH 25? I PREFER 20.
WE'RE TALKING A LIKE SCHOOL ZONE.
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN A HALF MILE LONG SCHOOL ZONE? IF YOU GO DOWN TO ARAPAHOE WITH RICHARDSON, RASD, IT'S LONG.
WHEN I DRIVE DOWN THAT ROAD, THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON THERE.
IT'S JUST SO MUCH DIFFERENT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE SETBACKS SO MUCH FURTHER AND LESS PEOPLE AROUND.
SO, BUT I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T BE APPROACH 20.
I MEAN THE DATA IS 75% OF PEOPLE SAY THAT 25 AND 30 IS IS OKAY WITH THEM.
I MEAN, NOT THAT THIS DAY, INFORMAL.
IT'S INFORMAL, BUT IT IS FEEDBACK.
UH, I PREFER 20, BUT I'M OKAY WITH 25.
AS LONG AS OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT IN POLICE WE SITE WANT TO TAKE OVER 10% OF THE SPEED LIMIT LIMIT.
UH, I DON'T WANNA GO DOWN THAT PATH WHERE WE'RE TELLING THEM HOW TO DO THEIR JOB.
THIS IS REALLY NOT OUR ROLE EITHER, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
CHRIS, I LIKE NANCY'S IDEA OF STARTING AT 25 AND LET'S JUST SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT.
WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SOLVING THE PROBLEM? SEE, SEE, SEE THAT'S THE THING WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING INTO, INTO THE WEEDS OF THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT OUR ROLE SETTING, DECIDING WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS ON ANY, ANY GIVEN ROAD.
IT'S JUST YEAH, BUT I, BUT I DO THINK IT'S OUR IDEA TO LISTEN AND I THINK IT, I THINK, AND I THINK IT IS OUR ROLE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF 35 FEELS TOO FAST, THEN IT'S TOO FAST.
SO WE, WE TRY 25 AND, AND, BUT WE, BUT WE DON'T, THE TRAFFIC EXPERTS, THE ENGINEERS OUT THERE, THEY DON'T SET SPEED BY HOW THINGS FEEL.
THEY GO BY STATISTICS AND HOW FAST THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC IS.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST, THIS IS ALL JUST ABOUT HOW WE FEEL.
AND THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT HOW YOU, THAT'S NOT HOW YOU DO THIS.
AND THIS IS SO, THIS IS SO FAR OUT OF OUR, OUR LANE, WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
WELL, ONE OTHER COMPLAINT I HEARD, AND I THINK EVEN DAVE ALLUDED TO IT ONCE BEFORE, WAS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE USING QUORUM DRIVE AS A CUT THROUGH.
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AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE WOULD PREFER THAT THEY DIDN'T, THEY WOULD HAVE RATHER HAVE LESS TRAFFIC AND MAYBE DROPPING IT TO 20 WOULD DETER THE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC TO TAKE AIRPORT OR SPECTRUM OR THE TOLL ROAD AND TAKE SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC OFF.I DON'T THINK 20 FIVES IS GONNA SOLVE IT BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE STILL GONNA GO 30.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GET ANY RESULTS.
SO THAT'S WHY I WISH THE RESPONDENT IT CUTS FOR WITH MY PERCEPTION ALSO.
I'M, I'M, I I'M SUPER CLEAR ON THIS.
WE SHOULD NOT BE AT THIS LEVEL OF THE, OKAY.
I MEAN, WE WOULD'VE BEEN A STREET BY STREET AND STOP SIGN BY STOP SIGN.
SO YEAH, WE ALREADY, WE DID THE, UH, COUNCIL DID THIS BACK IN 2017.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, THIS IS NUTS THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDERING THIS STUFF, UH, AT A STREET BY STREET, A PORTION OF THE STREET AND THE STOP SIGN AND, AND WE GOT THE SILVER LINE COMING, BLAH BLAH.
SO THAT, THAT IS, I I COULDN'T STATE THIS ANY CLEARER THAN I, THAN I AM.
WE, WE SHOULD NOT BE AT THIS LEVEL OKAY.
AND, AND ESPECIALLY WE'VE GOT A MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT'S HAPPENED BY PROFESSIONALS IN THREE, FOUR MONTHS.
UH, I'M NOT GETTING THIS CONVERSATION.
THE CITIZENS ARE, THIS IS A BIG DEAL TO 'EM IN THAT AREA.
AND THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN MAY COME AND WE COME BACK.
SO WHY DON'T WE READDRESS AFTER WE LIFT THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN? I UNDERSTAND.
I I I THINK IT'S EASY ENOUGH TO DO NOW.
OF COURSE IT'S EASY ENOUGH TO DO NOW THEN WHY DON'T WE, WHY DON, WAIT, I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO AT LEAST TAKE IT TO 25 TONIGHT.
YOU'VE GOT CONSENSUS BETWEEN THE, THE FIVE OF US.
THAT'S ALREADY, I CAN TAKE IT TO 25.
I'M NOT HEARING 25 JUST ONE AT THIS POINT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE FROM US.
WELL, WE WILL LOWER IT FROM 20 TO 25 IN THE AREA THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.
[c. Present and discuss an update on the 89th State Legislative Session.]
C PRESENT AND DISCUSS AND A, AN UPDATE ON THE 89TH STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.GOOD EVENING MAYOR CITY COUNCIL STAFF, PLEASE HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION PARTY TONIGHT WITH AN UPDATE ON THE CURRENT STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
UM, SO BY WAY OF QUICK BACKGROUND, THIS SESSION DID BEGIN EARLIER THIS YEAR ON JANUARY 14TH.
UM, IT IS SET TO CONCLUDE ON JUNE 2ND.
SO WE ARE GOING INTO OUR FINAL WEEKS OF THE SESSION.
MILLS CAN MOVE VERY FAST AS THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THINGS IN THE FINAL WEEKS.
UM, I DID INCLUDE SOME KEY DEADLINES THAT ARE COMING UP IN THE HOUSE.
UM, THOSE WILL BE IMPORTANT AS WE GO THROUGH SOME UPDATES ON SOME BILLS THAT CAN IMPACT ADDISON.
WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK, NEXT THURSDAY, MAY 15TH.
THE HOUSE DOES NEED TO PASS THROUGH ANY HOUSE BILLS UNDER CONSIDERATION.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF ACTIVITY IN THE NEXT WEEK TO TWO WEEKS AS THEY'RE TRYING TO MEET THAT DEADLINE.
UM, THEN THEY CAN STILL HEAR SENATE BILLS COMING OVER AFTER THAT POINT UNTIL THE END OF MAY.
UM, SO JUST SOME DEADLINES COMING UP AND I INCLUDED A GRAPHIC AS WELL AS JUST A REMINDER OF HOW A BILL GOES THROUGH THE DIFFERENT STATE IN THE PROCESS.
UM, IT DOES GET FILED, IT HAS TO GO TO THE COMMITTEE IN THE CHAMBER, ORIGINATED IN.
IT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE ORIGINATING CHAMBER AND THEN GO OVER TO THE OTHER CHAMBER.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO REFERENCE THAT NOW AS WE GO THROUGH SOME OF THE STATUS OF THESE BILLS AND THE PROCESS OF THE ROAD THEY MIGHT STILL NEED TO TAKE TO GET PASSED.
UM, SOME OF THEM ARE GONNA BE CHALLENGED, UH, TO MOVE THROUGH THAT ENTIRE BILL STAGE PROCESS IN A MATTER OF ONLY A FEW WEEKS.
UH, SO COULD NOT, THEY COULD NOT PASS.
BUT I WANNA GO THROUGH SOME JUST IN CASE THAT DO AND
UM, I WANTED TO ALSO INCLUDE BY WAY OF BACKGROUND OVER ABS PRIORITIES THAT HE SET AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SESSION.
UM, THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT HE WANTS TO SEE THE LEGISLATURE ACCOMPLISH DURING THE SESSION.
UM, THERE SHOULD BE NO SURPRISES HERE.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY PROPERTY TAX RELIEF IS AN ITEM THAT HAS CONTINUED FROM PAST SESSIONS AND THAT COULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO ADDISON.
UM, IF THE GOVERNOR FEELS LIKE HIS PRIORITIES HAVEN'T ADVANCED ENOUGH THROUGH THE REGULAR SESSION CONCLUDING ON JUNE 2ND, HE CAN CALL SPECIAL SESSIONS THAT WOULD LAST UP TO 30 DAYS AT A TIME.
UM, YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT WAS DONE IN PRIOR LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS.
I THINK IN 2023 THERE WERE FOUR SPECIAL SESSIONS CALLED AND THAT REALLY FOCUSED ON SCHOOL CHOICE.
UM, SCHOOL CHOICE HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND SIGNED BY HIM.
UM, SO HE MAY FEEL ENOUGH PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE AMONG HIS TOP PRIORITIES.
THERE'S NO INDICATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION.
BUT AGAIN, THINGS CAN ALWAYS CHANGE VERY QUICKLY.
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UM, TO PREPARE FOR THE STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, COUNCIL DID HOLD A WORK SESSION IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, UM, TO GO OVER WHAT ARE SOME TOWN PRIORITIES AND CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THOSE PRIORITIES.OUR RESOLUTION ON JANUARY 14TH, UH, THOSE ARE ORGANIZED IN THE FOUR MAIN AREAS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.
AND THEN THE ENTIRE LIST WE'VE INCLUDED IN YOUR PRESENTATION AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL THOSE AGAIN IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.
UH, BUT THEY ARE VERY HELPFUL AND IMPORTANT TO STAFF AS WE USE THOSE LIST OF PRIORITIES TO ADVOCATE FOR THE TOWN'S INTERESTS.
WE WORK CLOSELY WITH, UH, MAYOR ARSON, UM, WHEN WE'RE REACHING OUT TO OUR LEGISLATOR'S OFFICES, WRITING COMMITTEES, UM, PROVIDING ORAL WRITTEN TESTIMONY ON THE BILLS THAT ARE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN TRYING TO INCLUDE SOME UPDATES TO CITY COUNCIL IN THE BRI REPORT ON THE SIGNIFICANT BILLS THAT WE'RE SEEING.
UH, IN THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
I'LL HIGHLIGHT THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ONES.
THERE ARE A LOT MORE OUT THERE THAT CAN IMPACT CITIES.
AND JUST TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, UM, THERE WERE 8,900 BILLS FILED THIS SESSION.
THAT'S MORE THAN ANY OTHER SESSION.
UM, WHEN WE LOOK BACK AT THE LAST SESSION, THERE WAS A TEAM L THAT ESTIMATED ABOUT 2000 BILLS THAT COULD HAVE IMPACTED LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
SO YOU CAN SEE AGAIN IN THIS SESSION THERE COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM A COUPLE THOUSAND BILLS THAT COULD IMPACT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN WAYS.
SO, UM, WITH THAT I'LL GO THROUGH THE MAJOR ONES THAT WE'RE GONNA HIGHLIGHT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY THAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF OR SEEN UPDATES ON.
UM, SO THE FIRST ONE, UH, WHEN I GO OVER IS HOUSE BILL 19 AND THIS WOULD LIMIT A CITY'S ABILITY TO ISSUE MUNICIPAL DEBT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPONENTS IN THIS BILL, BUT I'M GONNA HIRE HIGHLIGHT THE THREE THAT WOULD BE MOST IMPACTFUL TO ADDISON.
UM, THIS BILL IS STILL IN HOUSE COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS, UM, WHICH IS GOOD.
UH, BUT IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AND I HAVE LOOKED AT A SUBSTITUTE VERSION.
UM, SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH SOME OF THE SUBSTITUTE VERSION OF PROVISIONS AS WELL.
UM, THE FIRST COMPONENT OF THE BILL THAT WOULD BE MOST IN FACT IMPACTFUL IS THAT IT WOULD LIMIT THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE SERVICE TO OVER THAN 20% OF OUR AVERAGE PROPERTY TAXES OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.
UM, BEING A SMALLER CITY THAT'S VERY IMPACTFUL.
UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DEBT RATE, AND I THINK RIGHT NOW STEVEN, WE'RE AT 28% PER PERSPECTIVE.
UM, THE COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE DID CLARIFY THAT THIS WOULD BE FOR ANY FUTURE DEBT GOING FORWARD AFTER THE BILLS EFFECTIVE DATE, WHICH I BELIEVE WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 1ST.
UH, THE SECOND MAJOR COMPONENT IS THAT IT WOULD LIMIT, UH, WHAT CITIES CAN USE CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATIONS FOR.
UM, SO IT REMOVES CERTAIN AUTHORIZED USES.
I LISTED A FEW ON THE SCREEN THERE INCLUDING PARKING STRUCTURES, AIRPORTS, TOWN HALL BUILDINGS, PARKS, CONVENTION CENTERS AND SO FORTH.
SO IT'S REALLY LIMITING IT MORE TO SOME OF THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CITIES HAVE.
UM, WHAT'S EVEN MORE CONCERNING IS THAT UNDER THE COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE VERSION OF THIS BILL IS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO AMEND THE DEFINITION OF DEBT.
UM, SO THAT COS YOU CANNOT USE THE DEBT PORTION OF YOUR TAX RATE TO FINANCE COS MEANING IF YOU'RE GONNA FINANCE COS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE THROUGH THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS PORTION OF THE TAX RATE, WHICH WE ALL KNOW WAS CAPPED IN PRIOR LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT, UM, WITHOUT A VOTER ELECTION.
SO REALLY IT WOULD MAKE COS AN UNREALISTIC FINANCING TOOL IF THAT WERE TO BE APPROVED.
UM, AGAIN, THAT WAS ADDED IN UNDER COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE.
THIS BILL COULD KEEP BEING AMENDED AND CHANGED, UM, WITH THE COMMITTEE.
AND THE LAST PROVISION IS THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE, LAST PROVISIONAL HIGHLIGHT IS THAT UM, IT WOULD UM, REQUIRE A NOVEMBER UNIFORM ELECTION DATE FOR UM, ANY AUTHORIZATION OF DO BONDS OR TO INCREASE THE PROPERTY TAX GRADE.
SO, AND WANTED TO MENTION IT'S IN HOUSE COMMITTEE, IT IS A LOWER BILL NUMBER WHEN YOU SEE HOUSE BILLS THAT ARE NUMBERED HOUSE BILL ONE THROUGH 40, THAT INDICATES IT'S A PRIORITY OF THE GOVERNOR.
IT'S A PRIORITY OF THE SPEAKER.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT HAS AN ADVANCED FURTHER OUT OF COMMITTEE, NEVER KNOW WHEN THOSE THINGS MIGHT BE PUSHED THROUGH OR CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF THIS BILL MIGHT BE AMENDED AND ADDED TO OTHER BILLS LATE IN MONTH
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER THAT.
AS YOU, AS YOU GO THROUGH THESE, IF YOU HAVE A SENSE FOR THE DIRECTION THEY MIGHT BE GOING, WILL YOU SHARE THOSE WITH US? YEAH.
UM, THIS, THIS ONE, IT'S GONNA BE A VERY DIFFICULT PATH TO GET OUT OF HOUSE COMMITTEE, GET REVIEWED BY THE HOUSE AND GET OVER TO THE SENATE.
THE SENATE ALSO DOES NOT HAVE A COMPANION VERSION OF THIS BILL.
MEANING IT'S NOT A HIGH PRIORITY FOR THE SENATE.
USUALLY THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS.
UM, SO, BUT THERE ARE PROVISIONS OF THIS BILL.
THERE ARE A HIGH PRIORITY FOR A SPEAKER AND A GOVERNOR.
THERE'S SOME OTHER BILLS OUT THERE THAT WOULD LIMIT COS SO THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE NARROW TOWARDS JUST THE CO PORTION.
SO IT'S VERY POSSIBLE TO HAVE ANOTHER BILL THIS, THEY COULD ABANDON THIS ONE AND GO WITH ANOTHER BILL THAT WOULD JUST MORE NARROW LIMIT THE COS.
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I WOULD, I WOULD ADD THAT FOR ALL THESE TWO A SPECIAL SESSION'S POSSIBLE, WE NEED A PROPERTY TAX.SO EVEN IF WE KIND GET TO THAT POINT, THEY CAN CERTAINLY COME BACK UP IN A SPECIAL SESSION.
AND COULD COME BACK UP IN FUTURE SESSIONS.
UM, THE NEXT BILL I WANNA HIGHLIGHT IS ACTUALLY TWO BILLS.
IT'S HOUSE BILL NINE SEVEN BILL 32.
SO THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS.
UM, AND THIS WOULD INCREASE THE BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY, UH, EXEMPTION UNDER THE HOUSE BILL NINE VERSION.
IT WOULD INCREASE THE BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY EXEMPTION.
UM, FROM 2,500 TO 250,000 TO ADDISON.
THIS WOULD MEAN AN APPROXIMATE LOSS OF $240 MILLION IN TAXABLE VALUE OR JUST OVER 1.4 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE ANNUALLY.
UM, IT DID TAX OUT OF THE HOUSE.
SO IT'S ORIGINATED IN CHAMBER AND IT IS OVER IN THE SENATE AND HAS BEEN REFERRED TO COMMITTEE.
IT HAD A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR YESTERDAY.
BUT IT DID MOVE OVER TO THE, UM, SENATE, THE SENATE'S COMPANION VERSION OF THIS.
BILL'S NOT COMPANION BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT THE SENATE VERSION IS REALLY FAR APART HERE.
YOU'LL SEE THAT NUMBER WOULD ONLY INCREASE THE EXEMPTION TO 25,000.
UM, SO OUR ESTIMATE IS THAT ADD TO LOSE APPROXIMATELY 550 OR 500,000, 50 550,000 IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.
UM, THAT SET OF VERSION SAYING HAS PASSED OUT OF THE SENATE AND MOVED THE HOUSE AND IS CURRENTLY FOR, SO IF I COULD JUST ADD A COUPLE COMMENTS ON THIS ONE.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS CONCERNING FOR ADDISON IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE WE'RE SO RELIANT ON BUSINESS TAXES AND, AND IN PARTICULAR BUSINESS PROPERTY, PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES.
ULTIMATELY, YES, IT DECREASES REVENUE, BUT WHAT WHAT IT ALSO DOES IS CHANGE THE CHANGES THE ALLOTMENT OF WHO PAYS TAXES IN ADDISON.
SO IF THIS GOES THROUGH THE EXEMPTION HERE MEANS THAT THE BURDEN IS SHARED MORE HEAVILY BY OTHER, OTHER FOLKS, NAMELY OUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE CERTAINLY WOULD OPPOSE THIS NOT ONLY FOR ITS IMPACT ON ADDISON IN PARTICULAR, BUT ALSO HOW IT REDISTRIBUTE THE BURDEN AMONGST OUR RESIDENTS.
BUT THE THE BPP IS, IS JUST LIKE IT SOUNDS, RIGHT? PROPERTY TAXES, IT'S GOT THE, THE, THE PROPERTY NOT, UM, REAL ESTATE ITSELF.
OH, LET, YEAH, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTY TAXES FOR BUSINESS, FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
THERE'S THE REAL PROPERTY WHICH WOULD BE THE REAL ESTATE.
AND THEN THIS IS, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE AIRPLANES OUT OF THE AIRPORT OR EQUIPMENT, EQUIPMENT OR INVENTORY, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, UH, OR BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY.
BUT IT DOES NOT TOUCH THE REAL ESTATE ACT AT IT DOES NOT TOUCH THEIR, THEIR REAL ESTATE.
SO THE TWO VERSIONS ARE APART.
WE'LL SEE IF THEY LAND IN ONE OR IN THE MIDDLE OR SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
UM, I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT IF ONE OF THESE BILLS IS PASSED, THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT IS ALSO REQUIRED.
SO THERE IS A SECOND STEP HERE AND EVEN IF IT'S SIGNED INTO LAW IS THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO BALLOTS IN NOVEMBER AND BE APPROVED AS WELL.
SO SARAH, IF, IF THAT SENATE BILL PASSED BUT THE HOUSE BILL DID NOT, WHAT, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THEN? NOTHING.
THE SENATE BILL WOULD, WOULD IF THE SENATE BILL, IF IT GOES THROUGH THE HOUSE, WOULD BE THE BILL MOVING FORWARD TO THE GOVERNOR.
IF THE HOUSE PASSED NOTHING, THEN NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN.
WHAT IF THEY BOTH PASSED IT WOULD GO TO RECONCILIATION.
UM, THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THREE OTHER, UM, BILLS THAT MIGHT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL IMPACT ON ADDISON, ALTHOUGH I'LL START BY SAYING THESE DO HAVE A DIFFICULT ROLE ROAD.
SO MAKE IT THROUGH, UM, BASED ON THE TIME REMAINING IN THE SESSION.
UM, THE FIRST IS THE HB 1 34 SALES TAX SOURCING.
THIS HAS BEEN INTRODUCED IN PRIOR SESSIONS AND WAS NOT APPROVED EITHER.
THIS WOULD BE A CHANGED SALES TAX SOURCING FROM AN ORIGIN BASED MODEL TO A DESTINATION BASED MODEL FOR ADDISON.
THAT COULD BE A POTENTIAL LOSS OF 1.4 MILLION TO 2.8 MILLION ANNUALLY.
UM, THE BILL DID PASS OUT HOUSE COMMITTEE IN WAYS MEETING QUICKLY ON MARCH 24TH.
SO THAT'S KIND OF FAIRLY MIDDLE OF THE SESSION FAIRLY EARLY.
HOWEVER, SINCE THAT TIME HAS JUST BEEN JUST BEEN SITTING IN HOUSE CALENDARS, IT HASN'T ACTUALLY BEEN CALENDARED FOR HOUSE CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND THAT'S NOT LIKELY TO MOVE FORWARD.
BUT DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT GOT THERE.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE SIX YEAR HISTORY OF THIS BILL, YOU CAN CALL STEVEN AT ANY TIME.
THE COMPTROLLER TRIED TO ACTUALLY TRIED TO DO THIS INITIALLY AT THE COMPTROLLER LEVEL AND LAWSUITS BY A NUMBER OF CITIES.
IT WOULD IMPACT US SIGNIFICANTLY.
THERE'S SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHO WOULD BE SEVERELY IMPACTED BY THIS AND THAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR IT.
THE LAWSUITS KIND OF KICKED IT BACK TO THE LEGISLATURE AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, IF YOU WANT SOME INTERESTING READING, ALL OF THE COMMENTS FROM THIS BILL WERE CITIZENS OF COP
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CITY STATEWIDE.SO I THINK THEY GOT EVERY CITIZEN IN COP BILL TO COMMENT ON THIS BILL IS PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD READ.
UM, THE NEXT BILL IS, UH, HOUSE BILL 52 67.
AND THIS WOULD INTRODUCE AN EXPENDITURE CAP ON MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS ALL FUNDS.
SO NOT JUST GENERAL FUND, BUT EVERY FUND THAT WE HAVE.
UM, AND YOU BE LIMITED, YOUR EXPENDITURES WOULD BE LIMITED TO WHAT YOUR EXPENDITURES WERE IN THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR OR THEY COULD BE ADJUSTED BY A GROWTH FACTOR.
BUT THAT GROWTH FACTOR WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF THE STATE'S POPULATION GROWTH RATE AND THE INFLATION RATE.
UM, SO A LOT OF POTENTIAL COMPLICATIONS WITH THIS BILL.
JUST HOW KNOWING HOW CITIES OPERATE AND FINANCES OPERATE AND THE DIFFERENT FUNDS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE.
UM, TML HAS ADVOCATED ON THIS ONE.
IT WAS REPORTED FROM THE HUFFS, UM, BUT IT HAS NOT MOVED.
UM, AGAIN, SITTING IN HOUSE CALENDARS AND IT'S NOT SCHEDULED AT THIS TIME.
AND TO THINK ABOUT AN IMPACT OF THIS ONE, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY MEAN YOU CAN'T CASH FUND ANY PROJECT.
YOU'D HAVE THE DEBT FUND BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T SAY, OH, WE'RE GONNA SPEND $5 MILLION RESERVES THAT WE HAVE 'CAUSE YOU'D GO OVER THE LIMIT.
UM, AND AS SARAH GOES, WE HOPE THAT WE'RE JUST GOING OUT.
WORST CASE SCENARIOS HERE AND IT'S NOT NEAR THIS BAD, BUT WE WOULD, WE DO WANT TO KEEP YOU UP TO DATE ON THE CONVERSATIONS GOING ON.
UM, AND THE LAST ONE, JUST QUICKLY, THAT'S UH, HOUSE BILL 42 72.
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THIS ONE WILL MOVE FORWARD 'CAUSE IT'S STILL IN HOUSE COMMITTEE.
UM, BUT THIS WOULD REQUIRE THAT IF WE REQUIRE A TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMPANY TO RELOCATE THE LINES DUE TO A ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT THE CITY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE LINES TO RELOCATE.
THAT'D BE A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE.
SOME OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'LL BE MOVING FORWARD.
UM, I WANNA MOVE NEXT INTO A DEVELOPMENT RELATED BILL.
UM, AND I'LL START BY SAYING THIS BILL HAS BEEN AMENDED BY THE HOUSE.
SO THERE'S SOME FAVORABLE CHANGES, SOME CHANGES THAT WERE INTRODUCED BY AMENDMENT THAT MAKE IT LESS CONCERNING, BUT WE STILL HAVE CONCERNS ON IT.
UM, SO THIS IS HOUSE BILL 23 AND THIS WOULD ALLOW THIRD PARTY INSPECTIONS BY, RIGHT? SO IF YOU RECALL IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, IT PASSED H HOUSE BILL 14, WHICH INTRODUCED STATUTORY SHOP CLOCKS.
UH, MEANING A CITY HAD TO REVIEW AND APPROVE A PLAT WITHIN 30 DAYS OR REVIEW AND APPROVE A BUILDING PERMIT WITHIN 45 DAYS.
AND THE CITY COULD NOT DO THAT BILL OR COULD GO TO A THIRD PARTY TO HAVE THAT DONE.
UM, SO REALLY SETTING THOSE SHOP BLOCKS, UM, WE AS A TOWN HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MEET THOSE AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES.
IT HASN'T CAUSED ISSUES, BUT THERE IS THIS BILL, UM, HOSPITAL 23, WHICH WOULD REMOVE THE SHOP DOCK ENTIRELY THAT CAME UP WITH THAT LAST SESSION.
AND ALLOW THIRD FOR ALLOW OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS TO GO RIGHT TO A THIRD PARTY REVIEW, UM, FROM DAY ONE.
SO A LOT OF CONCERNS, UM, IF WE REMOVE THE CITY'S ABILITY TO COMPREHENSIVELY LOOK AT DEVELOPMENTS, MAKE SURE THEY MEET OUR STANDARDS, MAKE SURE WE HAVE CAPACITY, UM, ALL THOSE COMPLEX FACTORS THAT GO INTO DEVELOPMENT.
UM, HOWEVER, SOME OF THE FAVORABLE AMENDMENTS, AT LEAST THAT THE HOUSE INTRODUCED WAS THAT IF A OWNER DEVELOPER IS GONNA USE A THIRD PARTY REVIEWER, THEY MUST SHOW THAT THEY HAVE THE APPLICABLE KNOWLEDGE ON THE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
IT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO RESCIND THE THIRD PARTY APPROVAL IF WE COULD SHOW THAT THEY DID NOT MEET THE CITY STANDARDS THAT WERE PUBLISHED.
UM, AND THAT IT ALSO WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE THE FINAL INSPECTION BEFORE ISSUING A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
SO WE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE THAT FINAL INSPECTION, THE COURT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE MAJOR AMENDMENTS.
A COUPLE OTHERS THAT WERE LISTED THERE.
UM, THIS BILL DID, UH, PASS THROUGH THE HOUSE, THE AMENDED VERSION ON APRIL 30TH, AND I THINK IT JUST GOT REFERRED TO THE SENATE AND REFERRED TO THE SENATE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE.
SO IT'LL BE HEARD BY SENATE COMMITTEE PROBABLY SHORTLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.
AND THIS IS AGAIN, A LOWER NUMBERED BILL, MEANING INDICATING A PRIORITY FOR THE GOVERNOR AND SPEAKER.
SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO, TO ADDISON? WE HAVE LESS CONTROL OVER DEVELOPMENTS.
NO, YEAH, I MEAN IT COULD HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS AND SOME OF IT IS STILL VAGUE, SO WE'LL HAVE TO DETERMINE.
BUT UM, YOU KNOW, IT COULD LIMIT DEVELOPMENT.
IT COULD LIMIT WHAT WE CAN DO FROM A BUILDING INSPECTION STANDPOINT.
FROM THE MOST PART, WE WOULD HOPE THAT IF THEY WENT THIRD PARTY, THEY WOULD FIND REPUTABLE FIRMS. AND I THINK SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS TRY TO GET SOME REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT, BUT TAKE A CURB CUT TRYING TO GET INTO OUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, ENSURING THAT IT'S DONE THE WAY THAT WE WOULD WANT IT TO BE DONE.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT WOULD COME, COME THROUGH THIS AND WE WOULD HAVE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN IT ACTUALLY COMES INTO FRUITION.
YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE A QUALITY, QUALITY CONCERN.
THE NEXT BILL I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS, UM, HOUSE BILL 27 67.
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PROHIBIT CITIES FOR ME TO REGULATE ONLINE GLOBAL MARKETPLACE.SO AIRBNB, VOBO, AMAZON, SO FORTH.
UM, SEA HEALTH DID GET INVOLVED IN THIS ONE ADVOCATING.
UM, AND THERE WAS A SUBSTITUTE INTRODUCED THAT CLARIFIES THAT CITIES CAN STILL, UM, HAVE REGULATIONS AND ENFORCE THEM AGAINST THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT THEY COULD NOT ENFORCE REGULATIONS AGAINST THE ACTUAL MARKETPLACE PLATFORM.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU COULD NOT REQUIRE AIRBNB TO DELIST A PROPERTY, YOU WOULD JUST NEED TO HAVE ENFORCEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY OWNER THEMSELVES.
UM, SO WE WOULD REVIEW THIS BILL CLOSER IF IT WERE TO CONTINUE AND SEE IF THAT WOULD HAVE ANY IMPACTS, UM, TO OUR CURRENT SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS ORDINANCE.
BUT I THINK THE CLARIFICATION THAT WE CAN STILL HAVE REGULATIONS IN PROPERTY OWNERS IS, UM, VERY FAVORABLE TO US.
AND THEN THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER LAND USE BILLS, DEVELOPMENT BILLS, BILLS THAT WOULD ALLOW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS BY RIGHT, RIGHT.
BILLS THAT WOULD GRANT US FROM HAVING REGULATIONS ON FOOD TRUCKS.
THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER THINGS.
UM, BUT JUST SOME TIME WANTED TAKE OVER SOME OF THE MORE MAJOR ONES.
SO WE WILL SEE WHAT MOVES FORWARD.
BUT I WANTED TO MENTION THAT NOW IN CASE WHEN WE DO THE POST SESSION WRAP UP, WE COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY, HERE'S THE LIST OF BILLS, AND YOU'RE NOT SURPRISED BY SOME THINGS THAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED.
SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO ADVOCATE ON THEM AS WELL, AS LONG AS IT'S IN LINE WITH OUR COMP PRIORITIES.
DOES IT SEEM LIKE THERE'S A THEME TAKING AWAY LOCAL CONTROL
SINCE THAT'S EVERYBODY'S PRIORITY, EVERY CITY HAS THAT PRIORITY TO MAINTAIN FULL CONTROL.
ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD NEWS
THIS IS TO LIMIT THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATIONS TO THEIR JURISDICTION.
IF YOU'LL RECALL, THIS WAS A PRIORITY OF THE TOWN TO INTRODUCE AND SUPPORT LEGISLATIONS, UH, TO LIMIT HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATIONS, SINCE WE DID FEEL THAT IMPACT OF HAVING A GARLAND FINANCE CORP HOUSING CORPORATION FOR JUST TWO, UH, PROPERTIES IN ADDISON AND TAKE THEM OFF THE TAX ROLL.
UM, SO WE WORKED WITH SENATOR TAN PARKERS, UM, TO, UH, FILE SENATE BILL 1492.
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF OTHER SIMILAR BILLS INTRODUCED TO THE SESSION.
UM, SO THEY WERE REFERRED OUT TO COMMITTEES.
THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA MOVE FORWARD AND THAT WE'RE GETTING INVOLVED WITH AS WELL, IS A HOUSE BILL 1585 IS ONE ARROW TO JUST LIMITING HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATIONS TO THE JURISDICTION IN WHICH THEY'RE LOCATED.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO HAVE HAPPEN.
SO IT'S MOVING FORWARD, IT PASSED OUT OF THE HOUSE AND EXPIRING TO THE GOOD.
WOULD THAT, DOES THAT HAVE ANY PROVISION OR COULD WE UH, CALL CALL BACK.
I NO, THERE WOULD IT, THERE WOULD BE NO RETROACTIVITY.
WILL WE HAVE ANY OTHER RECOURSE ON THAT? I THINK WE CAN DISCUSS THAT ANOTHER TIME.
LET'S RATHER GET IT BACK OUT THERE.
UM, THE OTHER GOOD NEWS TO SHARE, UM, IS THAT, UH, ADDISON ALSO WORKED TO INTRODUCE AND SUPPORT LEGISLATION FOR A QUALIFIED HOTEL PROJECT, UM, IN THE TOWN.
UH, AND WE WORKED WITH BOTH REPRESENTATIVE GARCIA HERNANDEZ'S OFFICE AND, UH, SENATOR CAMP PARKER.
SO WE WANNA SHOW OUR APPRECIATION TO 'EM FOR REALLY WORKING WITH US TO, UM, FILE THESE BILLS AND HELP MOVE THEM FORWARD.
UH, MAYOR ARSON, UH, DIG ON BOUND TO AUSTIN IN PERSON IN APRIL, ALONG WITH ASHLEY WAYNE, AND THEY TESTIFIED IN PERSON, UM, AND FIGURE HER OUT THIS BILL.
THEY'RE BOTH, THE HOUSE AND VERS ARE MOVING THROUGH AND WE'RE FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT THESE WILL GO FORWARD.
UM, CONTINUING TO, WILL WE PUT A LINK OF MAYOR RSON AND TJ IN LIKE A FRIDAY NEWSLETTER? MR. LET'S, LET'S LET THIS GO.
SEE THIS? I MISSED THAT SPEECH.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST BILL, UM, I WANTED TO GO OVER WAS US BILL 31 87.
UM, THIS WOULD BE TO LIMIT DART'S SALES, SELECT SALES TAX COLLECTION AND TO REDUCE IT FROM EACH OF ITS MEMBER CITIES BY 25%.
UM, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED A RESOLUTION ON FEBRUARY 25TH TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE FULL FUNDING OF DART.
SO IN OPPOSITION OF THIS BILL THAT WOULD REDUCE FUNDING.
UM, THIS DART BILL, UH, IS PENDING STILL IN THE HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION.
IT DID HAVE A HEARING A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY MORE MOVEMENT SINCE THAT POINT.
I, BUT I DID WANT TO THAT AS WELL.
SO WHAT DOES THE OUTLOOK LOOK ON LIKE ON THAT ONE? IT'S NOT MOVING.
IT, IT, IT'D BE DIFFICULT TO MAKE IT OUT ACROSS COMMITTEE TO HOUSE, BUT I, I WOULD SAY DART IS VERY CONCERNED.
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IS.I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S A A DEAD ISSUE AT THIS POINT.
YEAH, AT THEIR, AT THEIR MEETINGS THAT SENT, THAT'S WHY SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO TELL MOVIES THESE, UNLESS YOU HAVE THE INSIDE KNOWLEDGE, LIKE THEY CAN GO FROM NOT BEING ON A CALENDAR ALL OF A SUDDEN CALENDAR, SEND IT APPROVED
UM, SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO INFORM YOU ON THEM.
UH, NEXT, SO THE NEXT STEPS WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND ADVOCATE THROUGH, UH, THE NEXT FEW WEEKS UNTIL THE SESSION ENDS.
AND THEN ONCE THE SESSION ENDS, A STAFF WILL WORK ON A LEGISLATIVE WRAP UP REPORT TO SHOW OVER COMPREHENSIVELY WHAT WE KNOW, UM, IS LEGISLATION THAT MAY IMPACT THE TOWN AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
UM, OR IF THERE'S A SPECIAL SESSION CALL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE THAT AS WELL.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, SIR.
AT, AT THIS POINT, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE COUNCIL OR RESIDENTS CAN DO TO HELP WITH ANY OF THESE THAT WERE POS TO OR ADVOCATING FOR? UH, THEY CAN DEFINITELY, UH, HELP TO WRITE THEIR LEGISLATORS.
UM, SO, UM, REPRESENTATIVE GARCIA HERNANDEZ OR SENATOR KEN PARKER, UM, IF THEY'RE IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF ANY OF THIS LEGISLATION, UM, YOU CAN WRITE THEM, YOU CAN ALSO GO ONLINE AND FILE WRITTEN TESTIMONY FOR WHEN THE BILLS ARE COMING FORWARD IN HEARINGS.
UM, SO THEY CAN TAKE ANY OF THOSE ACTIONS AS WELL.
I WOULD SAY FROM THE TOWN'S PERSPECTIVE, I THINK OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES ARE SUFFICIENT TO CERTAINLY ALL THESE THAT ARE UP HERE, ANYTHING THAT'S COME FORWARD TO HAVE A POSITION ON.
UM, SO WITH THAT, EVEN IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEW THAT POPS UP, WE CAN STILL TAKE A POSITION ON IT, YOU KNOW, GIVE OUR WRITTEN RESPONSE FROM THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE MAYOR TO THAT REGARD, IF SOMETHING CAME UP THAT WAS COMPLETELY OUTTA LEFT FIELD THAT DIDN'T HIT AN, OR OUR PRIORITIES, WE COULD CERTAINLY TRY TO GET TOGETHER WITH COUNCIL QUICKLY TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S LIKELY.
I THINK ANYTHING THAT COMES UP WOULD LIKELY FALL UNDER THOSE, THOSE CRITERIA, ESPECIALLY AS WE TALK ABOUT LOCAL CONTROL, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT.
SO NO, REALLY TO RALLY THE TROOPS RIGHT NOW? NO.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SARAH.
[4. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.]
OUR FINAL ITEM, ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST.IT'S THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNSEL TO EXPRESS ANY THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCES, ET CETERA.
UH, REGARDING ANYTHING GOING ON IN OR AROUND THE TOWN.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE? NO.
WELL, I, I DO, UM, AS YOU PROBABLY VERY SURPRISED, BECAUSE YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THIS WEEK IS, RIGHT? THIS IS MUNICIPAL CLERK'S WEEK.
AND WE HAVE AN HALF OF THOSE VALENCIA.
AND SO STAND BY JUST ONE MOMENT.
WE HAVE A LITTLE SOMETHING FOR OUR, FOR OUR CITY SECRETARY, A MUNICIPAL CLERK.
LOVELY FOR THE, AND WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION.
OH, DID Y'ALL EVEN KNOW WHAT A CITY SECRETARY DOES?
I MEAN, I'M NOT GONNA EVEN READ THIS WHOLE LIST OF THINGS.
FELICIA WAS SO NICE TO GATHER THIS LIST OF JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY SECRETARY DOES ALL THE TIME, AND IT IS IMPRESSIVE.
BUT WE HAVE THIS GREAT PROCLAMATION HERE, UH, BEING PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF TOWN OF ADDISON.
THE OFFICE OF MUNICIPAL CLERK IS THE OLDEST AMONG PUBLIC SERVANTS.
AND THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK IS ESSENTIAL TO THE EFFECTIVE FUNCTIONING OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, ENSURING TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THE SMOOTH OPERATION OF MUNICIPAL SERVICES.
AND TEXAS MUNICIPAL CLERKS HAVE PLEDGED TO BE EVER MINDFUL OF THEIR NEUTRALITY AND IMPARTIALITY WHILE SERVING AS THE PROFESSIONAL LINK BETWEEN THE CITIZENS, THE LOCAL GOVERNING, GOVERNING BODIES AND AGENCIES OF GOVERNMENT AT OTHER LEVELS.
AND MUNICIPAL CLERKS SERVE AS THE OFFICIAL RECORD KEEPERS MANAGING VITAL DOCUMENTS, CONDUCTING MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS, PROVIDING LEGISLATIVE SUPPORT AND ENSURING COMPLIANCE WITH LAWS AND REGULATIONS IN CITIES ACROSS TEXAS.
I WON'T READ THE WHOLE REST OF THE THING TO YOU, BUT THEY DO SO MUCH.
AND VALENCIA HAS, SHE'S BEEN HOW LONG YOU BEEN IN THE ROLE NOW? OH, OVER A YEAR.
AND SHE CAME IN, SHE, SHE, SHE RAISED HER HAND AND SAID, I'D LIKE TO TAKE ON THAT ROLE.
AND SHE HAS KNOCKED IT OUTTA THE PARK.
HER OFFICE IS SO, I'M, I'M JEALOUS HOW ORGANIZED HER OFFICE IS, BUT, UM, BUT THE, I'LL GO TO THE BOTTOM LINE HERE NOW, THEREFORE, I BRUCE S AND MAYOR OF ADDISON ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY 4TH, 2025
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AS AS MUNICIPAL CLERK'S WEEK IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON, AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANT WORK OF VALENCIA GARCIA AND CELEBRATE HER CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY.ALRIGHT, ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY ELSE ON ITEM FOUR? WELL, WITH THAT, IT IS 7 26 AND WE WILL ADJOURN FOR THE EVENING.