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2025

[1. Call Meeting to Order]

I CALL TO ORDER THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S WORK SESSION.

UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A QUORUM OF FOUR COMMISSIONERS HERE, SO WE WILL, UM, KICK IT OFF HERE.

UM, LESLIE, I THINK, UH, IT'S YOURS TO HAVE DISCUSS.

YEAH, THIS, DO I NEED TO, DO I NEED TO STATE WHERE WE ARE? DOES IT MATTER FOR YOUR RECORDS? OKAY.

OH, I, THIS IS, I SEE CONFERENCE CENTER, WHICH IS CLEARLY WRONG.

WHERE, WHERE ON MY NOTES THAT THE PRENOT STUFF.

SO I, OH, I THOUGHT YOU MEANT THE AGENDA.

NOT WHERE WE ARE.

I NEED TO, TO, NO, THE AGENDA, UM, THE AGENDA DID GET, DID GET UPDATED FOR, UH, ADDISON TOWN HALL, WHICH IS THIS, THIS LOCATION, WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY AT AND WE'LL BE AT FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

UM, YEAH, SO JUST UH, ON THE, I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

ARE YOU ON A MIC? I AM SORRY.

IT'S NOT, THE MICS DO NOT AMPLIFY.

THEY ONLY RECORD.

SO I WILL TALK LOUDER.

I APOLOGIZE.

[ Discussion regarding items on the agenda for the March 18. 2025 Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting: February 18, 2025 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes Preliminary Plat for the AMLI Treehouse Addition 2 (PP2025-01/AMLI Treehouse Addition 2) Special Use Permit request for a restaurant with the sale of alcohol for on-premises consumption, Batbox (1928-SUP) Special Use Permit request for a restaurant with the sale of alcohol for on-premises consumption, Mexican Sugar (1930-SUP)]

UH, SO JUST ON THE WORK SESSION, ARE THE ITEMS ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

SO, UH, WE DO HAVE FOUR ITEMS, UH, TWO ON THE CONSENT.

THE FIRST ITEM IS THE FEBRUARY 18TH, 2025 P AND Z MINUTES.

UM, PLEASE NOTE THERE WAS A, A MINOR CORRECTION TO THE VOTE VOTING RESULTS FOR THE UDC ON THAT.

UM, THOSE GOT UPDATED ON ONLINE AS WELL AS IN YOUR ONEDRIVE EARLIER TODAY.

UM, SO FEEL FREE TO LOOK AT THAT.

BUT, UM, THOSE HAVE BEEN UPDATED IN THE PACKET, SO YOU CAN APPROVE AS PRESENTED IF YOU WISH TO DO SO.

THEN THE NEXT ITEM IS THE PRELIMINARY PLA FOR THE AMLI TREE HOUSE PHASE TWO.

UM, THIS INCLUDES THE MCCUTCHEN PROPERTY, WHICH IS GENERALLY AT THE, UH, SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BELTWAY DRIVE AND MIDWAY ROAD.

SO THIS GOT APPROVED, UM, LAST YEAR BY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR A REZONING PROJECT, INCLUDING MULTI-FAMILY, UH, RETAIL, RESTAURANT COMPONENT AND RENTAL AND FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES.

THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF DISCRETION.

UM, THERE ISN'T ANY DISCRETION ON THIS, ON THE ACTION OF THIS ITEM BECAUSE, UH, OF HOW STATE LAW IS STRUCTURED.

HOWEVER, STAFF HAS REVIEWED IT AND IT DOES MEET OUR, UH, UM, OUR REQUIREMENTS IS WHAT THIS A PRELIMINARY PLAT DOES.

IT DOES NOT GET RECORDED.

IT ONLY ESTABLISHES THE PRELIMINARY ANTICIPATED BOUNDARIES OF BOTH THE LOTS AS WELL AS THE EASEMENTS.

WE'LL MOVE THROUGH THE, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH THE CIVIL PERMITTING PROCESS, AND ONCE THAT GETS CONSTRUCTED AND THEN GETS APPLIED, UH, WE'LL ACTUALLY COME BACK AND DO THE FINAL PLAT.

SO, QUESTION FOR YOU KIND OF OFF TOPIC, BUT YET RELATED, YOU REMEMBER THE TOWN HOME SITE THAT, THAT ON THE BACK OF THE MCCUTCHEN, THE COVAL SUB PARCEL, THE, YEAH, THE OLD MOTEL SIX, REMEMBER THEY WERE HAVING ALL THAT PROBLEMS WITH HIM, COOPERATING THEM FOR THEIR EASEMENTS.

IS DID THAT ALL GET WORKED OUT? OH, YEAH, THAT'S ALL BEEN RESOLVED.

OKAY.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO, THEY HAD A BACKUP PLAN AT THAT TIME AND POINT TO GO, AND IT WAS GONNA COST MORE TO GO BEHIND, BUT YEP.

BUT HE, YEAH, AND, AND HOW THAT, HOW THAT ALIGNED, UM, BECAUSE OF WHEN THE MCCUTCHEN PROPERTY WAS BEING WAS CHANGING HANDS, THAT EASEMENT WAS KIND OF ABLE TO BE RESOLVED, UM, ACTUALLY SLIGHTLY BEFORE AMIE TOOK OVER OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY.

BUT, UM, OBVIOUSLY AM EMILY'S VERY COOPERATIVE AS WELL AND INCORPORATED IT INTO THEIR DESIGN.

SO, UM, SO BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS ARE ON THE CONSENT, AS I MENTIONED.

UM, THE, THE ZONINGS, OR EXCUSE ME, THE MINUTES ARE UP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

UM, THERE, THE, THE COMMISSION DOES NOT HAVE DISCRETION TO, TO DENY THAT, UM, DUE TO STATE LAW, UM, IF THERE'S A 30 DAY SHOT CLOCK ON THAT.

SO IF IT IS NOT, UM, APPROVED BY THE 30TH DAY, THEN IT IS DEEMED APPROVED BY STATE LAW.

ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT TWO ITEMS, UM, ARE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, THE SPECIAL USE PERMITS BOTH FOR RESTAURANTS.

UM, THE FIRST ONE IS BAT BOX.

SO THIS IS A RESTAURANT AS WELL WITH, UH, INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT AS WELL.

THEY HAVE, UM, VARIOUS BASEBALL THEMED, UM, ENTERTAINMENT COMPONENTS.

SO THEY HAVE LIKE BATTING CAGES, THEY HAVE VARIOUS DIFFERENT, UM, KIND OF TECH INFUSED BASEBALL THEMED GAMES.

UM, VERY SIMILAR TO PUTT JACK, BUT BASEBALL.

AND THEY'LL ALSO HAVE, UM, FOOD AND BEVERAGE AS WELL AS SALE OF ALCOHOL FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YOU, I SEE THAT THE ONLY THING, YOUR ONLY, UM, SUGGESTION OR, OR COMMENT WAS CLOSING AT TWO.

I'M ASSUMING THAT EVERYTHING OVER THERE PRETTY MUCH CLOSES AT TWO, RIGHT? I MEAN, FOR THE MOST PART, YEAH.

I DON'T, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER BUSINESSES THAT DO.

UM,

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THE REASON WE PUT THAT CONDITION ON IS BECAUSE THE, UM, THIS, THE APPLICANT WHO IS THE CCOO FOR BAT BOX ANTICIPATES, THEY WILL CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT.

HOWEVER, THEY WANNA GET A FEEL FOR THE MARKET TO SEE IF THEY NEED TO ADJUST THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION TO POTENTIALLY STAY OPEN LATER, PARTICULARLY ON THE WEEKENDS.

UM, FROM, FROM STAFF STANDPOINT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT.

PUTT CHECKS STAY STAYS OPEN.

UM, I BELIEVE THEY STAY OPEN UNTIL, UH, ONE OR TWO ON THE WEEKENDS.

SO WE PUT THAT CONDITION ON.

SO IF THEY WERE TO EVER CHANGE IT, THEY CAN'T STAY OPEN LATER, BUT WE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH THEM REMAINING OPEN UNTIL 2:00 AM.

OKAY.

UM, SO THAT BOX IS, IS TAKING OVER A FORMAL, A SUITE THAT WAS FORMERLY A SPA.

SO THEY WILL HAVE TO ADD INFRASTRUCTURE INCLUDING A GREASE TRAP AND SO FORTH.

BUT THEY'RE REALLY NOT MAKING ANY BROAD IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXTERIOR.

THEY'RE BRINGING A COUPLE ITEMS INTO COMPLIANCE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACE OUTSIDE THAT'S NOT COMPLIANT.

THEY'RE BRINGING INTO COMPLIANCE.

UM, THERE'S SOME PAVERS THAT HAVE BEEN DAMAGED DUE TO TREE ROOTS AND SO FORTH.

THEY'RE GOING TO, UM, SOME OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY GONNA RIP OUT AND, AND UH, REPLACE WITH LANDSCAPING AND GROUND COVER.

AND SOME OF THEM THEY'LL REPAIR WHERE APPROPRIATE TO ADD MORE GREEN SPACE TO THE, TO THE SUITE.

UM, THERE'S ALSO SOME LANDSCAPING THAT'S KIND OF MISSING OR HAS DYED OVER TIME AND THEY'LL BRING THAT BACK IN, INTO ITS FORMER GLORY.

UM, AND THEN THEY'LL DO SOME, SOME KIND OF MINOR AESTHETIC IMPROVEMENTS TO THE, TO ENHANCE THE FACADE.

BUT GENERALLY, LIKE THE PORTER THAT'S THERE TODAY, A LOT OF THE, THE ELEMENTS YOU SEE ON THE BUILDING WILL REMAIN.

IT WILL, UM, BE A, A SIMILAR TRANSITION TO WHAT YOU SAW WITH PUTT CHECK.

WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT TAKING THAT PORTER OUT? THERE WAS, UM, THEY DID DISCUSS IT EARLY ON.

UM, HOWEVER THEY FOUND THAT IT WAS GONNA PUSH THEIR TIMELINE OUT PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY AND THEY ARE CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO GET OPEN.

GOTCHA.

SO ARE THERE ANY, SO OTHER, I KNOW THEY'RE LEAVING THE PARKING ALONE MM-HMM .

UM, AND SO WE LIE TONIGHT TO BE FAIR.

UM, BUT UH, WHAT ARE THERE ANY PEDESTRIAN THINGS CHANGING? ARE THEY MAKING A SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS OR ANYTHING? BECAUSE AK IS A BIT OF A KILL BOX, THEIR FRONT ENTRANCE.

UM, IT'S KIND OF TERRIFYING EVERY TIME I GET TAKE OUT.

IT'S, YEAH.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF A SIMILAR SITUATION MIGHT START OCCURRING THAT YOU GUYS ARE WORRIED ABOUT.

YEAH.

SO, UM, THEY, THERE WERE, THAT'S NOT WORKING.

AM I CRAZY? AH, THANK YOU.

UM, LET'S SEE IF I CAN BALANCE THAT INTO IT.

SO, YEAH.

YEAH.

SO, UM, THIS PARTICULAR SUITE ACTUALLY HAS FAIRLY GOOD PEDESTRIAN, I DON'T WANNA SAY BROAD CONNECTIVITY 'CAUSE THE CENTER DOESN'T HAVE THAT'S OKAY.

ENHANCED CONNECTIVITY.

MM-HMM .

BUT IN TERMS OF LIKE COMPARISON AS A COMPARISON TO PUT SHACK, THIS ONE HAS A LOT BETTER PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY 'CAUSE IT HAS A, A FAIRLY WIDE SIDEWALK.

IT'S SIX PLUS FEET ON ALL SIDES OF THE SUITE.

MM-HMM .

AS WELL AS THERE IS A NICE CROSSWALK, UM, HERE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND THAT SIDE'S USUALLY A FAIR BIT LESS BUSY, UM, THAN THE KIND OF THE CENTER AREA THERE.

ALRIGHT.

YEAH.

AND THEN IN THIS PHOTO YOU CAN, YOU CAN BEGIN TO SEE HERE MM-HMM .

UM, THOSE PAPERS ARE IN REALLY POOR CONDITION.

THE TREE, THE TREE ROOTS HAVE JUST POPPED 'EM ALL UP.

SO ON THIS SIDE THEY ARE REPLACING WITH GROUND COVER AS YOU SEE HERE.

AND THEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY CREATING AN A DA COMPLIANT RAMP, WHICH WILL BE IN THIS GENERAL LOCATION.

OKAY.

AND THEN THIS, THE, THEY'LL BRING THAT A DA PARKING SPACE INTO COMPLIANCE.

OKAY.

SO, AND THEN YOU CAN'T SEE IT OUT OF THE PICTURE, BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY A CROSSWALK RIGHT HERE.

SO THERE'S NOTHING HERE THAT MAKES PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY WORSE? NO, I WOULD SAY THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF WHAT'S THERE.

THEY'RE BRINGING INTO COMPLIANCE OR, AND DOING MINOR ENHANCEMENTS.

YEAH.

'CAUSE MOST OF THE, 'CAUSE THE PORT RICOCHET IS RIGHT HERE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE KEEPING THIS DROP OFF AREA AND KEEPING THE ENTRANCE.

THEY'RE NOT MAKING MAJOR CHANGES TO, TO THAT AREA AT ALL BESIDES PAINT AND THEY'RE ADDING SOME PLANTERS AND SHRUBS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? I HAD ONE DUMB QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, AMLI PLAT, IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THAT REAL QUICK.

YEAH.

UM, SO DOES THAT, DOES THAT, I COULDN'T TELL ON THE DRAWINGS 'CAUSE I'M KIND OF NEW TO THIS.

DOES, ARE THE SIDEWALKS AFFECTED OUTSIDE OF CONSTRUCTION? MAYBE POTENTIAL TEMPORARY CLOSERS OR? I, I COULDN'T SEE WHERE THE DRAWING OR THE SIDEWALKS ARE DELINEATED OR, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ARE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE THE NEW SIDEWALK ON MIDWAY? YEAH, YEAH.

YEAH.

THE NEW MIXED USE,

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THE 10 FOOT PATH.

UM, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE DRAWING OR NOT.

SO TYPICALLY SITE IMPROVEMENTS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN A PLAT.

UM, 'CAUSE IT'S JUST TALK, THE PLA IS ONLY ESTABLISHING PROPERTY BOUNDARIES THAT OH, OKAY.

JUST LIKE MEETS AND BOUNDS AND ANY OKAY, GOTCHA.

EASEMENTS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY IS WHAT YEAH.

'CAUSE BECAUSE ANY OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL DIVERT BACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, WHICH INCLUDE THE BUILDINGS AND THE LANDSCAPING AND SIDEWALKS AND SO FORTH.

MM-HMM.

BENCHES AND OTHER PEDESTRIANS.

MIDWAY SIDEWALK IS CITY OWNED ANYWAY.

YEAH, THAT'S SO IT'S NOT EVEN FALLS WITHIN.

CORRECT.

THERE ARE, UM, HOWEVER, AM EMILY IS DOING IMPROVEMENTS.

LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, AS A PART OF THEIR PROJECT, THEY HAVE ASKED IF WE WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DO, TO INSTALL AN ENHANCED BUS STOP WITH SHELTER, WHICH WE SAID YES, WE ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DO THAT.

UM, THEY'RE ALSO, UM, ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.

UM, SO THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THEY'RE NOT DISTURBING THAT THE MULTI-USE PATH.

GOTCHA.

THAT'S ALONG MIDWAY THAT THE TOWN INSTALLED.

COOL.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A RESTAURANT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOL.

AND THIS IS MEXICAN SUGAR.

IT'S, UM, GOING TO BE LOCATED IN THE FORMER TGI FRIDAY SITE AT THE, UM, NORTHWEST CORNER OF QUORUM AND BELTLINE.

UH, SO THIS PARTICULAR, UM, SITE HAS BEEN VACANT.

UH, I THINK TGI FRIDAY'S MOVED OUT LAST SUMMER.

SO IT HAS BEEN VACANT FOR NEARLY A YEAR GOING ON A YEAR.

UM, MEXICAN SUGAR WANTS TO USE MOST OF THEM EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS.

THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH THE SITE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S NOT COMPLIANT WITH EMERGENCY ACCESS.

SO THERE WERE SOME CHANGES INCLUDING REMOVAL OF, UM, TWO TREES BECAUSE THE, THE ISLANDS HAD TO BE MOVED FOR, UM, TO FIT THE FIRE ENGINE AND THEY HAD TO ADJUST SOME OF THE LANDSCAPE ISLANDS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE AS WELL.

UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UH, AND THEN THERE AREN'T ANY MAJOR SITE IMPROVEMENTS.

THEY ARE BRINGING THE SITE INTO COMPLIANCE OR LIKE BACK INTO COMPLIANCE WITH LANDSCAPING 'CAUSE THERE IS SOME, UM, KIND OF DEAD OR, OR IN POOR HEALTH.

UM, TREES AND SHRUBS AND SO FORTH THAT ARE ON THE SITE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DOING WELL DUE TO NEGLECT OR OTHERWISE ARE SOME OF THE STORM EVENTS WE'VE HAD.

UM, PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IS THAT THEY ARE ADDING, THEY'RE EXPANDING THE EXISTING PATIO SPACE, UM, NOT SIGNIFICANTLY BY, IN THE BALLPARK OF 300 SQUARE FEET, UM, TO CREATE A, I GUESS A MORE INVITING ENTRANCE, A MORE, UM, EXCLUSIVE ENTRANCE INTO THEIR SPACE.

AND THEY ALSO WERE REMOVING SOME OF THE AWNINGS TO KIND OF, UM, THE RED AWNINGS TO MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE A MEXICAN SUGAR AS OPPOSED TO A TGI FRIDAYS.

BUT, UM, THIS IS THE SAME OPERATOR THAT ACTUALLY OPERATES IDA CLARE ACROSS THE STREET.

SO IT'LL BE A GOOD ADDITION TO THE CORNER.

UM, THEN ONE OF THE MAJOR BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT THAT THE TOWN'S QUITE EXCITED ABOUT IS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH, UM, IS NOT MEXICAN SUGAR, THEY'RE LEASING, UM, BUT THE, THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNER HAS AGREED TO GIVE THE TOWN EASEMENTS BOTH ON BOTH, UM, SIDES OF THE PROPERTY.

SO QUORUM DRIVE, UH, ON THE EAST AS WELL AS BELTLINE ON THE, THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THE TOWN HAS THE, UM, QUORUM RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING.

AND SO THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BE COMPLETED WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS EASEMENT THAT WE POTENTIALLY WOULD'VE HAD TO GO BACK LATER AND ASK.

SO WE ARE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THAT NOW.

OKAY.

I REALIZE THE CURRENT UDC IS NOT APPROVED AT THAT POINT, BUT THIS WOULD'VE QUALIFIED FOR, UM, ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS.

I TAKE IT.

WE COULDN'T, YOU COULDN'T REALLY FORCE THAT UPON THEM AT THIS POINT.

UH, WE COULD NOT, UM, THE COMMISSION COULD ADD IT AS A REQUIREMENT, UM, AS AN IMPROVEMENT IF THEY SO WISH.

UM, THAT WAS NOT, THAT WAS NOT A TOPIC THAT WAS REALLY COVERED WITH THE REVIEW OF THIS, OF THIS PROJECT.

THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGER PARKING LOTS IN THE, IN ADDISON.

SO IT'S SO LESLIE, REGARDING THOSE EASEMENTS, UM, I KNOW THERE'S A BIG TALK, THE BIG SCARY TALK ABOUT THE BELT LINE ROAD DIET MM-HMM .

IN THE COMP PLAN, YOU KNOW, BARRING POLITICAL WILL, THOSE EASEMENTS WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THAT, UM, BASED ON YOUR BEST UNDERSTANDING.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A SEVEN FOOT EASEMENT ON THE FRONTAGE, UH, THE BELTLINE FRONTAGE AND, UM, I'M TRYING TO SEE IF I HAVE A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD ONE.

SO EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN GRAY IS AN EASEMENT THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FROM THEM ON THE EDGES OF THE PROPERTY.

AND SO RIGHT NOW THE, THIS IS THE, THIS IS WHERE THE PARKING LOT STARTS.

AH, YEAH.

OKAY.

AND SO HERE'S THE CURB.

SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF AREA

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THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH, WHICH IS VERY UNIQUE ON BELTLINE, UM, WHICH IS A GREAT PROBLEM TO HAVE.

AND SO BY ACQUIRING THAT ADDITIONAL SEVEN FEET, UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE WOULD HAVE IN THE BALLPARK OF, UH, 16 FEET, WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT THE ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE, UH, BELTLINE 1.5 PLAN.

SO THAT INCLUDES A, I BELIEVE IT'S AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK AND A SIX FOOT BUFFER.

SOMETIMES I GET THEM BACKWARDS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT IT, UH, INCLUDES.

SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE TREES IN THAT SIX FOOT BUFFER AS WELL AS AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK.

VERY GOOD.

YEAH.

OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? OH, REALISTICALLY, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH PARKING ARE THEY GONNA SHARE WITH THE THOMAS PRINTWORKS? 'CAUSE IF THEY HAVE 65 PEAK AND ONLY 150 OR SO PARKING, THAT LEAVES ABOUT 84 FOR CUSTOMERS.

LIKE ARE THEY ARE, ARE WE LIKE KIND OF WINK WINK, NUDGE NUDGE KNOWING THEY'RE GONNA SHARE KIND OF PARKING IF ON A REALLY BUSY TIME OR, UM, IT'S POSSIBLE.

SO NOT ONLY, SO THOMAS IS TO THE NORTH ON THIS DRAWING AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SOME PARKING YES.

ALREADY THERE.

UM, I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT THEY WOULD DRIVE A DEMAND OKAY.

TO, TO WARRANT THAT.

HOWEVER, WHERE YOU WOULD SEE POTENTIALLY SOME, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT CONCERN, BUT SHARED PARKING IS FOR THE, THE MULTI-USE OR MULTI-TENANT BUILDING THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT, WHICH I BELIEVE THAT THAT ONE HAS LIKE POTBELLY AND I THINK THERE'S GREAT HUDSON HILLS HOUSE COOKIES PLACE AND THEN THERE'S A SALON, MAYBE FOOT MASSAGE PLAY REFLECTS.

SO THAT IS TYPICALLY WHERE WE SEE SOME SPILLOVER PARKING.

OKAY.

I WILL SAY THIS SITE AS WELL AS THE ADJACENT MULTI-USE BUILDING ARE BOTH THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER.

MM-HMM .

UM, SO WITHIN REASON, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL LET THE, THE LEASE HOLDERS NEGOTIATE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

THEY MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

WE CAN'T ALWAYS EXACTLY.

AND WE CAN'T ENFORCE PRIVATE PROPERTY TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

SO.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU KNOW WHAT THAT USED TO BE? SORRY, WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WAS, WHAT ALL THAT WAS BEFORE? WELL, I READ THROUGH A LOT OF ORDINANCES.

THIS, THIS PARTICULAR SITE.

YOU MEAN BEFORE CHAMPS OR BEFORE SOMETHING THERE WAS A DANCE? NO, I'M SAYING THAT THE WHOLE AREA THERE WAS, OH, IT USED TO DOES IT WAS A PAY LESS CASH RAISES LUMBERYARD.

YEAH, I WAS, IT USED TO BE LIKE INDUSTRIAL.

I LOOKED AT SOME OLD AERIALS AND THERE WAS HUGE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

ISN'T THAT WERE CRAZY? YEAH.

UM, AND SO, SORRY, I FORGOT TO MENTION WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, UM, THE STAFF IS REACT REQUESTING THAT THE PREVIOUS SUVS FOR THE SITE FOR VARIOUS RESTAURANT AND RESTAURANT AMENDMENTS BE REPEALED, JUST HELPS US CLEAN THINGS UP.

CAN'T WE NORMALLY JUST, I MEAN, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF FACT THAT IT AUTOMATICALLY GET REPEALED IF A NEW ONE GETS, OR THEY JUST TYPICALLY JUST LAYER LIKE THAT.

SO ZONING RUNS WITH THE LAND UNLESS IT'S REPEALED.

SO UNLESS IT IS, UNLESS IT'S, UM, SO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO MAKE A MM-HMM .

OKAY.

SO UNLESS IT'S AMENDED OR APPEALED, IT STAYS WITH THE ENTIRE, THE, THE REST OF TIME.

SO.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL WE GOT FOR YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

WITH THAT WE ARE ADJOURNED AND WE'LL START REGULAR SESSION AT 6:00 PM THANKS.