Feb 18, 2025 Planning & Zoning Commission

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[1. Call Meeting to Order]

AS WE DO WITH ALL MEETINGS, PLEASE, UH, STAND SO WE CAN SAY PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.

NOW.

I'LL READ THE, UH, PURPOSE STATEMENT FOR PLANNING ZONING.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SERVES IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO THE TOWN EVALUATING, PLANNING, ZONING, AND SUBDIVISION PROPOSALS, AND PRESENTING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON MATTERS OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT POLICY.

THE COMMISSION'S PRIMARY OBJECTIVE IS TO ENSURE RESPONSIBLE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT BY ADHERING TO ESTABLISHED PLANNING PRINCIPLES AND OVERSEEING THE ADMINISTRATION OF ZONING AND SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

THESE EFFORTS ARE INTENDED TO UPHOLD THE SAFETY, WELFARE, AND OVERALL WELLBEING OF THE RESIDENTS, THE WORKFORCE, AND THE VISITORS.

UM, NEXT, UH, IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THIS MEETING, PLEASE COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD AND RETURN IT TO STAFF.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT IF WE DO SPEAK, PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS AND REFRAIN FROM ASKING DIRECT QUESTIONS TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

HOWEVER, THE COMMISSIONERS MAY, AT THEIR DISCRETION ASK YOU QUESTIONS.

ANY QUE ANY, EXCUSE ME, ANY ANSWERS WILL NOT CONSTITUTE INTO YOUR AND TAKEAWAY FROM YOUR THREE MINUTES.

OKAY.

NEXT,

[ Consent Agenda: All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the Planning and Zoning Commission and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CONSENT ITEM APPROVED.

EXCUSE ME.

I WILL NOW MOVE ON

[2. Discuss and Consider Action on Election of a Chair and Vice Chair for the Planning and Zoning Commission.]

UM, WE WILL START WITH THE CHAIR POSITION.

DO I HAVE A NOMINATION ON ALL NOMINATED THESE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

APPOINTMENT, UH, CARRIES.

UH, NEXT I WILL, UM, OPEN IT UP FOR VICE CHAIR.

DO I HAVE A NOMINATION? I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE TOM.

JUST A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

UM, UH, AS VICE CHAIR IS APPROVED.

CONGRATS.

UH, NEXT ITEM IS TO I DID APPROVE EVERYBODY, RIGHT? SAID APPROVE ALL.

OKAY.

, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE ACTION.

OH, NO.

YEAH, OF THE 2024, THAT'S WHAT I ASKED YOU.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING YOU.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

DID I GET, GET ALL? OKAY.

CAN I HAVE A, A VOTE ON THE VICE CHAIR ELECTION OF TOM? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

SORRY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING YOU.

SIDEBAR.

I THOUGHT I GOT OFF.

OKAY.

PRESENT AND DISCUSS

[3. Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on the 2024 Planning and Zoning Commission Annual Report.]

LESLIE, JUST MAKING YOU START YOUR CHAIR, CHAIR OFF.

RIGHT.

LESLIE KNIGHT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, UM, STAFF PROVIDED THE ANNUAL REPORT, WHICH WAS PRESENTED AT THE, UM, JANUARY, UH, ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING.

UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ITEMS, UH, DISCUSSED FOR CORRECTION, INCLUDING UPDATING A DATE FROM WHICH IS CURRENTLY NOTED AS 2024 TO 2023, UM, CONFIRMING THE, UH, ATTENDANCE STATUS OF TYLER SUMMERS.

AND THEN, UM, YEAH, THOSE ARE THE TWO CORRECTIONS, UH, FOR, FOR THE, UM, 2024 ANNUAL REPORT.

OKAY.

ANY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THAT WASN'T ONE OF YOUR ITEMS? NO.

YOU'RE GOOD? YEAH.

NO, WE'RE ALL GOOD.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO IMPROVE THE, UH, 2024 ANNUAL REPORT WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES? I SECOND.

I SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ITEM CARRIES.

UM, NEXT PRESENT.

[4. Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on the 2025 Planning and Development Work Plan.]

CONSIDER ACTION FOR THE 2025 PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT WORK PLAN.

LESLIE, LESLIE NIFE, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

UH, ONCE AGAIN, THE WORK PLAN, UH, FOR 2025 WAS, UH, PRESENTED AT THE JANUARY ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING.

UM, AND STAFF IS ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION WITH, UH, ONE UPDATE THAT WAS NOTED, INCLUDING BEGINNING THE, UH, INITIATION OF THE ADOPTION PROCESS FOR THE, UH, UDC.

ANY COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MOVE APPROVAL SECOND.

I SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR?

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ITEM CARRIES.

UH, NEXT ITEM.

[5. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on the adoption of the text of a Unified Development Code (“UDC”), including changes to the Town of Addison’s laws and regulations regarding zoning districts, subdivision and development, building, and construction with the zoning district changes to be considered at a later date.]

CHANGES TO BE CONSIDERED AT A LETTER DATE.

UH, LESLIE NE, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

UM, WE HAVE OUR CONSULTANT PRESENT, UM, MATT GOBEL, WHO FROM CLAREON ASSOCIATES, WHO'S GONNA DO A QUICK OVERVIEW OF SOME ITEMS AND, UM, BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AS WELL.

I KNOW WE COVERED QUITE A BIT IN THE RE UH, EXCUSE ME, THE WORK SESSION.

UM, ONCE AGAIN, JUST FOR THE RECORD, UH, STAFF DID RECEIVE TWO, UM, PUBLIC INPUTS VIA EMAIL, AND THOSE WERE INCLUDED TO FOR YOU AT THE DIOCESE, AS WELL AS VIA EMAIL BEFORE THE MEETING.

UM, AND WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME, UH, SPEAKER THREE PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS, UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO MATT TO DO A QUICK WALKTHROUGH.

AND WE HAVE, UM, STARTED PREPARING RESPONSES TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED AT THE, DURING THE WORK SESSION.

AND SO WE'LL HAVE THOSE FOR YOU AT THE TAIL END FORWARD.

SORRY.

THANKS, LESLIE.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

MATT, GO WOLF FROM CL AND ASSOCIATES.

UH, MY COLLEAGUE GABBY WANTED TO BE HERE AS WELL, BUT SHE'S IN IN JURY DUTY TODAY IN, IN COLORADO, SO SHE COULDN'T MAKE IT.

UM, THIS WILL BE SHORT AND SWEET.

YOU'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THIS, AND YOU HAVE HEARD A LOT FROM US ABOUT THE CODE.

UM, WE JUST REALLY WANTED TO EMPHASIZE FOR YOU WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THE LAST CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU HAD, UM, UH, ON THE 29TH OF, OF JANUARY.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE AT THE TAIL END OF A VERY LONG PROCESS, AND THIS HAS BEEN A LONGER THAN TYPICAL PROCESS BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS.

BUT WE'RE, WE'RE SUPER EXCITED THAT WE HAVE, UH, LANDED HERE, UH, WITH WHAT WE THINK IS A VERY STRONG DOCUMENT.

UM, WE'RE HOPING TO GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM YOU TONIGHT.

UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS LATER, BUT THAT WILL BE HOPEFULLY TO TAKE THIS ON TO THE COUNCIL FOR FINAL REVIEW AND ADOPTION NEXT MONTH.

UM, Y'ALL HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION LAST, UH, MONTH IN JANUARY.

I WASN'T HERE FOR THIS, BUT WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT SUMMARIZE THINGS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WITH GABBY.

UM, I'M NOT GONNA WALK THROUGH ALL OF THESE WITH YOU, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE CON CONSIDERATION IN VARIOUS PARTS OF THE CODE PROCEDURAL THINGS LIKE, UH, DO WE WANT TO, UH, THINK ABOUT CHANGES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING PROCEDURE OR, UH, THERE WAS, UH, COMMENTS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS LIKE THE EV PARKING AND SHOULD WE BE ADJUSTING THRESHOLDS FOR WHEN, UH, SOME OF THOSE NEW IMPROVEMENTS FOR EV PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED? UH, Y'ALL TALKED GENERALLY ABOUT CHALLENGES WITH NONCONFORMITIES, WHICH ARE ALWAYS CREATED TO AN EXTENT, UH, WITH A CODE, UH, UPDATE LIKE THIS.

UH, AND I KNOW THAT CAME UP IN YOUR WORK SESSION EARLIER, AND WE CAN COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THAT ISSUE AS WELL LATER ON IF YOU'D LIKE.

UM, Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF VERY SPECIFIC THINGS THAT ARE REFLECTED IN THE RED LINE VERSION OF THE CODE THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE HAVE CHANGED SOME, UH, ERRORS IN THE TREE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS.

I'LL SHOW YOU THAT ON A SUBSEQUENT SLIDE.

UM, THESE, THESE SLIDES ARE REALLY JUST A, A CATALOG FOR THE, FOR THE FUTURE.

JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE DID GO THROUGH THESE, THESE ISSUES, WE'VE NOW GOT SEVERAL SLIDES HERE THAT WALK YOU METHODICALLY THROUGH THE ORGANIZATION OF THE CODE ABOUT HOW WE ADDRESSED ALL THOSE VARIOUS ISSUES.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, OVERALL PURPOSE STATEMENTS FOR THE CODE IS NOW MORE MULTIMODAL IN ITS INTENT.

WE ADDED THE WORD BICYCLE TO THE PURPOSE STATEMENT, UM, FOR THE MINOR MODIFICATION TABLE, WHICH IS SHOWN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

UH, WE CLARIFIED THAT THOSE ADJUSTMENTS ARE SOMETIMES INCREASES TO A FLOOR OR SOMETIMES THERE ARE REDUCTIONS FROM A, FROM A CEILING.

UM, BUT WE ADDED THOSE DECREASES AND INCREASES THERE.

UM, AS Y'ALL DISCUSSED AT YOUR WORK SESSION, WE DID REMOVE THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE LIMITS FROM ALL THE RESIDENTIAL ZONE DISTRICTS.

UM, UH, THERE WAS A, A TECHNICAL, THERE'S SEVERAL TECHNICAL ERRORS HERE THAT WERE CLEANED UP.

UM, THIS IS THE CHANGE IN THE EV PARKING THRESHOLD THAT I MENTIONED, UH, PRIOR.

IT HAD BEEN, UH, 50 SPACES.

IT'S BEEN REDUCED TO 40 SPACES TO CAPTURE MORE BIG, UH, PARKING AREAS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S MORE EV INFRASTRUCTURE PROVIDED, UH, MOVING FORWARD, UH, CLEANED UP SOME OF THOSE TREE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS.

LIKE I MENTIONED, UM, A LOT OF TECHNICAL STUFF HERE.

AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT MINOR, IT'S NOT UNIMPORTANT, BUT I, I DON'T WANT TO BORE YOU WITH ALL THESE DETAILS.

UM, WE, WE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE TABLE OF, OF, OF, UH, OF PROCEDURES, WE REMOVED THE, THE LISTING OF BOTH PUBLIC MEETINGS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS.

'CAUSE THAT WAS DILUTING THE PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENT.

AND SO WE, WE CLEANED THAT UP, CLARIFIED THAT THE MASTER SIGNED APPEAL AUTHORITY IS BZA, UM, CLARIFIED YOU GOT SUBMIT AERIAL IMAGERY FOR TREE, TREE PERMITS, UM, CLARIFIED THE PROCESS TO DELEGATE THE PARKING MANAGEMENT DECISION THAT, THAT, UH, THE, THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, CAN,

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WE CLARIFIED THAT, UH, CHANGE THE, THE HEIGHT IN THE ADDISON AIRPORT DISTRICT TO 70 FEET MAXIMUM.

UH, AND ALSO YOU HAVE TO MEET FAA STANDARDS.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, CLARIFIED THE A DU NOTICING REQUIREMENTS.

SO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, UH, NOTICING MUST OCCUR BETWEEN THE COMPLETE APPLICATION AND THE FINAL APPROVAL.

UM, WE STILL HAD A FEW PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE THAT WERE BASED ON NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES.

AND WE, WE, WE'D LIKE TO ALWAYS GET RID OF THOSE BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY FLUID NUMBER THAT CAN CHANGE.

AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE A WAY TO KEEP TRACK OF THAT.

SO WE TRY TO MAKE THEM MUCH MORE STATIC.

SO WE CHANGE THOSE, UH, MUCH MORE, UH, FIRM.

SO WE CHANGE THOSE, UH, PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO, BASED ON DESIGN CAPACITY.

UM, WE HAD SOME SPECIFIC REFERENCES TO BELTLINE STREET SCAPE IN THERE.

AND THE INTENT IS THAT ULTIMATELY THOSE MIGHT BE PART OF A BROADER SET OF TOWN WIDE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

AND SO WE CHANGED THAT REFERENCE TO LOCATION SPECIFIC STREET SCAP, STREET SCAPE STANDARDS.

UM, I'M GONNA JUMP DOWN TO THE BOTTOM TOO.

WE CLEANED UP ALL THE COMMENTARY.

WE GOT RID OF ALL THE COMMENTARY IN THE DOCUMENT THAT, UM, REFERENCED, UH, YOU KNOW, WHY WE DID CERTAIN THINGS.

WE'RE PAST THAT POINT.

EVERYBODY KNOWS WHY WE'VE DONE CERTAIN THINGS, AND WE NEED TO MOVE TO MORE OF WHAT A COMPLETE DOCUMENT AND FINAL DOCUMENT WILL LOOK LIKE.

SO THAT'S ALL BEEN TAKEN OUT.

THE NEXT STEP WILL BE TO TAKE OUT ALL THE FINAL FOOTNOTES THAT STILL REMAIN, BUT WE KEPT 'EM IN THERE JUST AS A REFERENCE, UH, STILL FOR THIS FINAL STEP, JUST SO PEOPLE CAN REALLY HAVE THAT PAPER TRAIL OF, OF WHAT WE, WHERE WE FOUND CERTAIN THINGS.

UM, A LOT OF CLEANUP.

GABBY'S BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON ENSURING THE TABLES ARE ALL FORMATTED THE SAME WAY.

STUFF LIKE THAT.

UM, THE STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING OUTSIDE THE CODE ON AN ADMINISTRATIVE MANUAL, AND THAT IS GONNA BE AN IMPORTANT EXTERNAL DOCUMENT THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS FOR A, A PLAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE ON A COMPLETE PLAT, OR WHAT ARE THE LISTS OF PROHIBITED TREES? THINGS LIKE THAT.

ALL COMMUNITIES HAVE THOSE DOCUMENTS MAINTAINED EXTERNALLY.

UM, IT'S MOSTLY GONNA BE JUST STUFF THAT PEOPLE CAN ACCESS ON YOUR WEBSITE, BUT THAT'S, THAT HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR Y'ALL'S CONSIDERATION OUTSIDE THE CODE.

UM, I THINK THAT'S IT.

I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN THING THAT I WANTED TO COVER AS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION.

UM, THAT, THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY QUICK OVERVIEW, BUT Y'ALL HAVE HEARD PLENTY FROM US OVER THE YEARS, SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT CAME UP IN THE WORK SESSION OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO RAISE.

OH, I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION.

UM, IT'S MATT, RIGHT? MATT? YES.

NICE TO MEET YOU.

YOU AS WELL.

I'M, I'M, UH, EXCITED TO JOIN YOU GUYS AT THE END OF THE PROCESS.

SO I SPOKE QUITE A LOT ABOUT PARKING MINIMUMS LAST TIME, AND I GOT IT OUTTA MY SYSTEM.

UM, I WANTED TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, TODAY, 'CAUSE I SPOKE WITH GABBY IN KIND OF THE COUNCIL.

THERE'S A TRANSIT CENTER ZONE RADIUS FOR PARKING RELIEF.

I THINK IT'S ROUGHLY 20%.

UM, SO THAT, THAT, THAT RADIAL DISTANCE IS ONLY A QUARTER MILE.

MY APARTMENT'S RIGHT THERE, WHICH IS JUST OUTSIDE THAT QUARTER MILE.

BUT I WALKED TO THE TRANSIT CENTER FOUR TIMES A WEEK.

UM, IN ADDITION, I WAS LOOKING AGAIN ON THE RADIAL DISTANCE.

SO THE ADDISON TRANSIT CENTER THERE ACROSS FROM THE PARK, UH, IS JUST ABOUT 0.3 MILES FROM BELTLINE.

AND IN THE FUTURE, THERE'S GONNA BE NICE BIKE LANES.

THERE'S GONNA BE MORE CONNECTED, CONTIGUOUS COMMUNITY.

BUT THE BUSINESSES THAT SIT ON THE NORTH END OF BELTLINE, THERE WILL BE OUTSIDE OF THE PARKING RELIEF IN A, IN A SITUATION WHERE IT WOULD BE PERFECTLY REASONABLE TO WALK FROM A TRANSIT CENTER.

UM, SO I GUESS I ASK IS THERE ANY APPETITE OR WOULD ANYBODY'S FEELINGS GET HURT IF I ASKED TO INCREASE THAT RADIUS TO HALF A MILE? UH, MAYBE EVEN A QUARTER MILE.

ANY, ANY THOUGHTS THERE? INCREASE THE RADIANCE, THE RADIUS WHERE OF THE RELIEF, UH, OF RELIEF WHERE FEWER, FEWER ARE NO PARKING SPACES ARE PROVIDED.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

YEAH, I'M NOT GOING TO, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN SO FAR, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY THE TREND AROUND A LOT OF STATE COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE STATE AND, AND THE COUNTRY.

UM, THERE'S NOW A DOUBLE DIGIT NUMBER OF CITIES THROUGHOUT TEXAS THAT HAVE ELIMINATED PARKING REQUIREMENTS, AT LEAST IN THEIR DOWNTOWN OR MIXED USE CENTERS WHERE THEY KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE REAL FOCUSED PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY.

UM, THE APPETITE FOR CITYWIDE PARKING RELIEF IS INCREASING AS WELL.

UM, UH, I WOULD SAY OVERALL TEXAS HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A SLOWER ADOPTER IN THAT BECAUSE YOUR CLIMATE, BECAUSE OF THE OVERALL JUST, YOU KNOW, DISPERSED PHYSICAL NATURE OF A LOT OF THE CITIES HERE.

BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT PLACES AREN'T LOOKING TO ELIMINATE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

SO, UM, UM, THAT'S JUST OVERALL COMMENTARY.

NOT REALLY SPECIFIC ON YOUR PIECE, BUT, BUT WHERE, WHERE COMMUNITIES HAVE ADOPTED TOOLS FOR PARKING RELIEF, THEY OFTEN REEVALUATE THOSE THRESHOLDS AND SAY, WELL, IF IT WORKED WELL WITH THIS, MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE COULD INCREASE IT BY AN ADDITIONAL 20%.

SO, YEAH.

SO I MEAN, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS' THOUGHTS ON MOVING THAT TO HALF A MILE? I, I'M KIND OF, I'M, I'M IN THE MINORITY HERE, I'M SURE, BECAUSE I'M ONE OF THE GUYS, I'VE ALWAYS SAID THIS,

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AND IT'S, IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL.

BUT THAT'S, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN TEXAS AND EVERYBODY DRIVES AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE ABLE TO PULL UP BY THE FRONT DOOR.

WE'VE HEARD NUMEROUS TIMES ABOUT RETAIL PLACES THAT DON'T MAKE IT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT IMMEDIATE FRONT END PARKING.

I, I, I'M OKAY WITH LEAVING IT WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW, BUT, BUT I WOULD SAY TO EXTEND IT, IF WE CAN GET LIKE FIRST MILE, LAST MILE, SOMETHING FIGURED OUT WITH THE, WITH OUR STATION HERE, THEN AT THAT POINT, I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY, WE SHOULD BE, WE SHOULD INCREASE THAT ZONE OF RELIEF.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I DON'T, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ANSWER IS EXACTLY YET.

LIKE IF THERE'S A CIRCULATOR THING OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE SELF-DRIVING.

WELL, THERE ALREADY IS SELF-DRIVING.

YEAH.

LIKE A SYSTEM.

AND I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ENOUGH.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE ANSWER YET TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO THAT AND KEEP EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAPPY .

AND, AND, AND SO I THINK IN THE CONTEXT OF ADDISON, WE ONLY HAVE THE ONE TRANSIT CENTER, AND THAT TRANSIT CENTER IS, AT LEAST ON THE QUORUM SIDE, HAS ADEQUATE SIDEWALKS ACROSS ALL OF QUORUM.

UM, THERE'S, THERE'S TREES, UM, AND THERE'S A HUGE, HUGE PARKING LOT BEHIND THAT, UH, RESTAURANT ROW, KIND OF BY THE THOMAS PRINT WORKS HOTEL.

PLENTY OF PARKING LEFT, BUT PLENTY OF ROOM FOR POTENTIAL INFILL, RIGHT.

THAT, THAT I KIND OF WANNA ACCOUNT FOR WHEN REALISTICALLY THAT TRANSIT CENTER IS AN EIGHT MINUTE WALK FROM A TGF FRIDAYS BUILDING.

RIGHT.

SO, I MEAN, COULD, WITH THAT IN MIND, COULD WE EXPAND IT? EXPANDED? YEAH.

I GUESS ONE OF MY CONCERNS WOULD BE WHAT WOULD THE RAMIFICATIONS BE FOR FOLKS WHO ARE, UM, FOLKS WHO HAVE DISABILITIES OR THOSE WHO MIGHT BE OLDER, WHICH IT MIGHT BE MORE OF A LONGER WALK FOR SOME OF THOSE FOLKS.

OH, SHOOT, I WISH PHYLLIS WAS HERE.

UH, SHE, SHE WALKS TO THE TRANSIT CENTER TOO.

MM-HMM .

UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK WITH INFILL DEVELOPMENTS, I THINK THERE'S MORE STRICT AND ADVANCED SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT, THAT SHOULD MAKE THAT BETTER.

UM, AND AGAIN, INCLUDING THE TRANSIT RELIEF MEANS THEY, THE BUSINESS CAN DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO USE IT.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

UM, SO IF THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT A DA COMPLIANCE OR, OR, OR STUFF, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO BUILD ALL THE PARKING THEY WOULD LIKE WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE MINIMUMS. I'M GONNA ASK LESLIE MAYBE TO WEIGH IN OF KINDA WHAT THE THOUGHTS WERE IN DECIDING WHAT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED IN THE PLAN.

SURE.

SO, UH, LESLIE AND I HAVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, UM, WHEN LOOKING AT THIS, SO WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF A COUPLE OF STUDIES.

SO THE NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS IS CURRENTLY DOING A PARKING STUDY.

IT'S, THERE'S BEEN SOME PRELIMINARY SECTIONS RELEASED.

UM, AND IT HAS IN MANY WAYS SUPPORTED WHAT, WHAT TYLER'S TALKING ABOUT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT PROJECT.

WE ARE THE TOWN STAFF'S ALSO WORKING WITH COG TO, I, I BELIEVE IT'S A TWO MILE RADIUS, UM, FROM THE SILVER LINE.

AND WE'RE IDENTIFYING GAPS IN OUR CONNECTIVITY.

SO, AND THAT'S HOW WE'RE PRIORITIZING, UM, WHETHER IT'S SIDEWALKS OR A DA ACCESS, BECAUSE YOU'D BE SURPRISED AT HOW, UM, WIDESPREAD THOSE ARE.

UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT JUST THE IMMEDIATE ADDISON CIRCLE AREA, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CONNECTIVITY, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE FROM THE TRANSIT STOP OUTWARD, UM, THERE ARE SOME GAPS.

SO I THINK STAFF'S APPROACH IN THIS DECISION, UM, WHAT'S PROPOSED TONIGHT IS THAT WE ARE NOT QUITE THERE.

AND HOWEVER, WE'RE MOVING THERE AND WE ARE IN A PROCESS OF PRIORITIZING WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND WHAT WE NEED TO FUND IN ORDER TO GET THERE.

UM, I, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA SEE THE REAL IMPACTS OF THE, THE SILVER LINE HERE IN HOPEFULLY ABOUT A YEAR.

UM, AND I COULD FORESEE, YOU KNOW, COMING FORWARD WITH AN AMENDMENT IF IT'S SUPPORTED BY THE DATA WITHIN A YEAR AND A HALF TO TWO YEARS.

THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S, I THINK, GENERALLY STAFF STANCE ON THAT.

BUT I'LL DEFER TO THE COMMISSION IF THEY WANT TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE AT THIS, THIS STAGE.

COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY ELSE? I'M FINE WITH THE WAY IT IS, BUT I WAS JUST GONNA ASK, DO YOU, JUST AS A GENERAL PERCENTAGE, HOW MUCH OF A RE ARE WE REDUCING PARKING REQUIREMENTS NOW? I KNOW EACH AREA IS KIND OF DIFFERENT COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS JUST, I, SO OUR, WE'RE, OUR PARKING STANDARDS ARE MUCH LESS STRICT.

I, I DON'T THINK I COULD GIVE YOU AN EXACT PERCENTAGE OF THE AMOUNT, BUT, UM, THEY ARE MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE TO WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN, IN AN AVERAGE, YOU KNOW, NORTH TEXAS CITY.

WHEREAS BEFORE, I THINK THE, THE DIFFERENCE IS, IS OUR STANDARDS THAT EXIST TODAY ARE VERY STRICT, PRIMARILY FROM THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES, THAT WERE ALMOST ENTIRELY AUTOCENTRIC.

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I'M NOT ASKING FOR REMOVAL OF MINIMUMS WITHIN A POINT HALF A MILE RADIUS TO THE TRANSIT CENTER.

UM, ARE WE REALLY, I I, I THINK MY, MY HESITATION IS, IS WE HAVE NO STATS ABOUT HOW MUCH THAT CENTER'S OR THAT TRAIN STATION'S GONNA BE USED.

AND IF YOU GET DOWN THE ROAD IN TWO YEARS, AND, AND IT'S NOT, YOU'VE GIVEN ALL THIS RIGHT AWAY TO ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT I'M, AND I'M WITH TOM TOO, THAT I ALSO THINK THE DEVELOPERS NEED TO KNOW THEMSELVES TO GET THE PROPERLY PARKED.

BUT I, I, I JUST THINK WE'RE A LITTLE TOO SOON IN THE PROCESS, PERSONALLY.

AND I MEAN, I THINK KNOWING THAT THERE'S AN ALLOW FOR AMENDMENT IN THE FUTURE, I JUST THINK IT GETS ADDRESSED AFTER WE HAVE SOME STATS ON HOW THE LIGHT RAIL'S WORKING.

QUICK QUESTION, WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT WOULD BE THE NEGATIVE IF WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE DOUBLING IT.

WHAT'S THE NEGATIVE? I CLEAR GENERALLY I CAN JUMP IN.

GO AHEAD, MATT.

I'LL JUMP IN FROM A MORE GENERAL PERSPECTIVE, UH, IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING REQUIRED AND THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT PARKING DEMAND, UH, YOU MIGHT POTENTIALLY HAVE PEOPLE PARKING IN SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THE SPILLOVER EFFECTS REALLY CREATE A LOT OF PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEAR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS.

UM, AND SO DENVER, THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE IN PLACES LIKE CHERRY CREEK.

AND SO THEY HAVE TO GO TO PARKING MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY ISSUE PARKING PERMITS FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT ALL THAT PARKING SPACE TO BE CANNIBALIZED, UH, AND TAKEN FROM THE, FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS BY THE, BY THE VISITORS TO THE, UH, COMMERCIAL AREAS.

SO HAS IT BEEN YOUR EXPERIENCE THAT MAYBE THE BEST APPROACH IS A MEASURED APPROACH WHERE YOU START WITH ONE AND IF YOU SEE THAT IT'S WORKING, YOU CAN ALWAYS EXPAND? I THINK THESE ARE VERY LOCALIZED CONVERSATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS, AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SUMMARY OF MY RECOMMENDATION.

UM, UH, WE'RE DOING SOME OTHER WORK IN NEW BRAUNFELS RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A REAL TOURIST HEAVY COMMUNITY, AND THEY REALLY WORRY ABOUT THE IMPACT OF REDUCING PARKING WHEN THEY GET SO MANY OUTSIDERS COMING IN FOR WORST FEST AND FOR SOME BIG EVENTS LIKE THAT, AND I KNOW Y'ALL DON'T HAVE THE, THE SCALE OF THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS, BUT, UM, THERE'S SEVERAL BIG ONES HERE.

I WOULD, BUT MY GENERAL COMMENT TOO IS IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST A TECHNICAL QUESTION ABOUT DO YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY, IT'S A POLITICAL QUESTION OF THE, THE PERCEPTION OF IS THERE ENOUGH PARKING? UM, BECAUSE IT, IT'S AN INFLAMMATORY TOPIC TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND WE, WE SEE IT COME OUT A LOT WHEN THERE'S JUST A PERCEPTION THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING DESPITE THE DATA.

SO YOU HAVE TO BRING PEOPLE ALONG.

YOU HAVE TO REALLY INFORM THAT CONVERSATION.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE GOOD LOCAL DATA ABOUT EACH PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO I DO THINK A MEASURED APPROACH IS, IS REALLY WISE.

THANK YOU.

I WAS GONNA SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT ALL DEVELOPERS ARE SOPHISTICATED ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY NEED, BUT JUST SEEING ALL THE DIFFERENT, THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESS PEOPLE THAT START A BUSINESS AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE, I'LL SAY THAT, TO BE ABLE TO, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

AND A LOT OF THEM FAIL.

WELL, AND SOME 'EM WILL MAKE THEIR DECISIONS PURELY ON COST, THAT IT REDUCES THEIR COST.

AND THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN FOR THE BEST BUSINESS DECISION IN THE LONG RUN.

RIGHT? YEAH.

AND I, OH, SORRY.

SORRY, LESLIE, GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

NO, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT IN ADDISON CIRCLE RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A PERCEPTION THAT THERE'S A LACK OF PARKING BECAUSE PEOPLE PARK IN THE MOST CONVENIENT SPOT.

AND I, AND I, UM, DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS TRUE.

'CAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF PARKING, IT'S JUST VERY, VERY WELL HIDDEN, UM, TUCKED AWAY.

AND SO THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT STAFF IS WORKING ON.

LIKE WE HAVE KICKED OFF THE WAY FINDING, UH, MASTER PLAN TO THEN PROVIDE SOME WAY FINDING TO ACCESS THAT PARKING.

SO THERE'S THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO IMPROVE IT.

BUT, UH, TO MATT'S POINT, INCREMENTAL APPROACH UNTIL WE CAN FIX THE PROBLEMS WE'RE CURRENTLY HAVING AND SHOW THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THE PERCEPTION IS THAT TO CORRECT THE PERCEPTION THAT EXISTS TODAY.

UM, AND SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO PUSH, PUSH THE ENVELOPE AND BE PROGRESSIVE.

RIGHT.

AND, AND JUST TO, JUST TO MAKE THE POINT ON RESIDENTIAL SPILLOVER SYMPATHETIC TO THAT, THERE ARE ZERO, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS OF THAT CHARACTER WITHIN HALF A MILE RADIUS OF, OF THE TRANSIT CENTER.

AND I BELIEVE DISTRICT ONE HAS, NOBODY'S GONNA PARK AT DISTRICT ONE TO WALK TO TGI FRIDAYS OR, OR, UM, UH, HUDSON HOUSE, RIGHT.

SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS PARKING SPILLOVER IS APPLICABLE TO RIGHT HERE WHERE THE ONLY TRANSIT CENTER IS THERE.

UM, I, I'M GONNA WAIT FOR SOME MORE PUBLIC

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I, I, UH, I'LL BE COOL ABOUT IT, BUT I REALLY THINK IT'S NOT TOO UNREASONABLE.

JUST DOUBLE THIS.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE COMMENTARY? I OKAY WITH THAT.

I, SORRY.

OH, EXCUSE ME.

UM, I WOULD, LIKE, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT DRIVEWAYS IN THE WORK SESSION.

CAN I, CAN I ADDRESS THAT REAL QUICK? SO, UM, DRIVEWAYS ARE THE ALL CONCRETE YARDS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YES.

OKAY.

SO THERE ARE, SORRY, IT TOOK US, UM, SOME, SOME DIGGING, BUT IF YOU REFER TO SECTION, UM, 5.5 0.7, AND THEN IT'S A1C, UM, LET ME PULL UP THE DOCUMENT.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING ON THE CLEAN VERSION OF THE FEBRUARY DRAFT, IT'S PAGE, UH, 188 OF THREE 20, OR PAGE 180 1 OF THE PHYSICAL DOCUMENT.

AND IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT, UM, WHERE, UH, VEHICLE PARKING IS PERMITTED IN THE FRONT YARD, THE WIDTH OF YOUR DRIVEWAY IS LIMITED TO THE WIDTH OF THE GARAGE DOOR.

IF THERE IS AN ATTACHED GARAGE, OR IF THERE IS NO ATTACHED GARAGE, IT'S LIMITED TO 22 FEET.

SO YOU'RE LIMITED THERE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE OTHER STANDARDS IN PLACE, UM, WHICH STATE THAT RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAYS HAVE TO HAVE 20 FEET SPACING BETWEEN THEM.

GENERALLY, THERE ARE CONCESSIONS TO THAT GIVEN CERTAIN STANDARDS, BUT THAT'S THE, THE GENERAL STANDARD, UM, ABSENT OF THOSE EXCEPTIONS.

AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER STANDARDS WHICH IDENTIFY THAT YOU HAVE TO, TO HAVE A MINIMUM SPACING OF YOUR DRIVEWAY, YOUR PAVED DRIVEWAY BETWEEN YOUR PROPERTY LINE.

AND FOR, I JUST HAD IT HERE.

I APOLOGIZE.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS TWO FEET.

IT WAS EITHER TWO OR FIVE FEET.

I APOLOGIZE.

LET ME FIND THAT PAGE.

UM, ANYWAYS, IT PROVIDES A SPECIFIC SETBACK FOR THE DRIVEWAY BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE.

SO 5, 4 5.

YEAH.

5, 4 5.

OKAY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO, UM, ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT LIMITATIONS PAVING YOUR FRONT YARD? NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

I, YOU JUST DIRECTED ME THE FIRST TIME.

I DID, I DID.

I APOLOGIZE.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MATT.

I WAS HOPEFUL THAT THE BEGINNING , AND I DON'T WANT TO BE ING A CAN OF WORMS, BUT I JUST WANNA GET, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S KIND OF CONSISTENT AND GET YOUR OPINION.

I THINK YOU SAT HERE THROUGH THE WORK SESSION AND HAD OUR LISTEN TO OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT NON-CONFORMING AND MM-HMM .

THE LANGUAGE OF THAT.

UH, UH, FIRST QUESTION IS THIS, HOW, HOW YOU TYPICALLY HAVE WRITTEN THE LANGUAGE IN MOST OF YOUR EDCS.

IS THAT HOW IT HAS HANDLED IN MOST OTHER CITIES? CAN YOU JUST COMMENT ON THAT TO KINDA MAYBE GET EVERYBODY A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY IT CURRENTLY IS STATED? SURE.

IT, IT'S VERY MUCH THE, VERY MUCH THE STANDARD LANGUAGE THAT WE, THAT WE USE IN ALL THE CODES THAT WE DRAFT AND THAT I, THAT I SEE AROUND THE COUNTRY.

UM, THIS, THIS REALLY BECOMES AN ISSUE WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING ON THEIR PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT AND THEY WANT TO CLAIM THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PLAY BY ALL THE RULES THAT, THAT WOULD OTHERWISE APPLY TO THEM.

SO THEY WANNA SAY, WELL, ACTUALLY THAT SETBACK DOESN'T APPLY TO ME, OR THAT RESTRICTION ON, ON USE ACTIVITY DOESN'T APPLY TO ME BECAUSE I HAVE SOME PERMISSION FROM THE PAST.

AND WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO CLAIM THAT THAT BENEFIT, UH, THEY NEED TO HAVE SOME JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT.

THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HERE IS WHERE I HAVE MY SITE PLAN APPROVAL FROM THIS PROPERTY, AND THIS IS, AND THEN THE STAFF CAN GO BACK AND THEY CAN HELP RESEARCH, RESEARCH THAT AND SAY WHAT THE RULES WERE WHEN THAT, UH, ACTIVITY WAS APPROVED.

UM, THIS MIGHT ALSO COME UP IN, IN AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY IS TOLD BY STAFF, YOU HAVE TO STOP, I DON'T KNOW, RAISING CHICKENS IN YOUR BACKYARD AND AS AN EXAMPLE.

AND MAYBE THAT, UH, CODE, YOU KNOW, DID ALLOW THE RAISING OF CHICKENS, YOU KNOW, FOR A BRIEF PERIOD BACK IN THE 1980S OR SOMETHING.

AND SO THEY CONTINUED THAT ON AS A NON-CONFORMING ACTIVITY.

THAT'S A COMPLETE HYPOTHETICAL, BUT THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF THIS, I, I THINK THE IDEA OF THE CITY GOING IN AND ISSUING A PRESUMPTIVE DECLARATION OF CONFORMITY WOULD LEAD TO A LOT OF UNINTENDED RESULTS.

I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE.

UM, I REALLY WOULD WORRY ABOUT THE LEGAL LIABILITIES OF THAT.

UM, I'M NOT LICENSED IN TEXAS, UM, SO I'M NOT GONNA GO DOWN THAT ROAD, BUT I, THE PRACTICAL, UH, THE PRACTICAL ROAD THAT THAT WOULD TAKE YOU DOWN IS, UM, CONCERNING TO ME, I GUESS.

THANK YOU.

YOU COMMISSIONERS ANY OTHER COMMENTARY? OKAY, THANKS MATT.

UM, WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME.

I HAVE A COMMENT CARD HERE FROM ROSEANNE HOPWOOD, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, GIVE YOUR ADDRESS,

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THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

I'M ROSEANNE HOPWOOD, AND, UM, I LIVE AT 41 11 LEADVILLE PLACE, UM, WITH MY HUSBAND LEE.

WE BOUGHT THAT HOUSE IN 2017 AFTER WE RENTED FOR TWO YEARS ON REVE LANE.

AND WE LIVED THERE WITH OUR KID AND OUR DOG AND OUR THREE GUINEA PIGS, AND WE ENJOY IT A LOT.

YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB, UH, DISCUSSING THE MEMO THAT MY HUSBAND AND I SENT.

I THINK I'LL FOCUS, SINCE I HAVE JUST THE THREE MINUTES ON, ON THE QUESTION THAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST TECHNICAL AND TO US, HAS CAUSED THE MOST HEARTBURN AS RESIDENTS OF ADDISON.

SO FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN NECK DEEP AND POCKET DEEP IN TWO SEPARATE BOUNDARY LAW PROBLEMS. UM, ONE OF THEM GOT RESOLVED AFTER TWO YEARS WITH THE UPHILL NEIGHBOR, UM, WITH WHOM, UH, WE SHARE A, UH, RETAINING WALL.

AND AFTER MID FIVE FIGURES OF EVERY KIND OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICE YOU CAN IMAGINE, AND A LITTLE HELP FROM, UH, UH, OH, THE GUY WHO WAS BEFORE YOU, UH, LESLIE, UH, KEN, KEN, WE GOT THAT DONE.

UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE IN A BIT OF ANOTHER ONE NOW, AND IT'S KIND OF AN A STALEMATE, BUT IT, BUT IT DOES REVOLVE AROUND BOUNDARY LAW, WHICH, UM, MY HUSBAND'S IN A COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION, HE KNOWS A LOT.

I'VE LEARNED A LOT.

UM, THIS PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE UDC REQUIRES A SURVEYOR TO SET VERY SPECIFIC TYPES OF MONUMENTS.

AND, UM, SARAH EARLIER SAID THAT THE TOWN IS ALLOWED TO MAKE STRICTER REQUIREMENTS THAN THAN THE STATE.

YOUR REQUIREMENT IS ACTUALLY LESS STRICT BECAUSE IN BOUNDARY LAW, OLDER IS BETTER, NEWER IS EASIER.

AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT'S CAUSING A BIT OF A PROBLEM FOR ME IN MY SEVEN NEIGHBORS ON THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ABUTTING OUR PROPERTIES IS THAT OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, MULTIPLE SURVEYORS FOUND AN ORIGINAL PIN AT A, AT THE END OF A 700 FOOT STRETCH, NO PROBLEM.

A NEW SURVEYOR MORE RECENTLY FOR SOME REASON, DIDN'T FIND THAT ORIGINAL PEN, SET A NEW PEN.

AND GUESS WHAT? WE'VE GOT BOUNDARY DISPUTE, BOUNDARY VARIANCE, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.

LOTS OF HEARTBURN IN THE COMMUNITY ON MANY SIDES.

SO TO, TO REQUIRE A SURVEYOR WHO IS LICENSED BY THE STATE AND ON WHOM MY, UH, TITLE INSURANCE IS BASED ON HIS OR HER WORK.

MY LENDER IS BASING THE VALIDITY, THE MARKETABILITY OF MY PROPERTY ON THAT SURVEY TO LIMIT THEM TO SAY, YOU HAVE TO PLACE NEW PINS IN THESE CORNERS AT THESE TANGENTS THAT'S CONTRARY TO THEIR PRACTICE.

THEY ARE THE EXPERTS, NOT THE TOWN OF ADDISON.

THANK YOU, MR. ANY COMMENTS I HAVE TO SAY FOR QUESTIONS? IF, IF THERE ARE ANY? ANY.

OKAY.

TWO.

THANK YOU.

YOUR COMMENTS.

NEXT COMMENT I HAVE IS CURTIS GREEN.

IF YOU WANNA COME TO THE PODIUM, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, STATE YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US WHAT YOU'RE HERE FOR.

HI, MY NAME IS CURTIS GREEN.

I LIVE AT 1 5 8 0 0 SPECTRUM DRIVE IN ADDISON.

UH, I APPRECIATED THE, THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE PARKING MINIMUMS EARLIER AND AT THE LAST MEETING.

UH, ONE THING THAT CAME UP SEVERAL TIMES IS THE, THE CONCERN ABOUT LOSING PARKING AND HURTING STRUGGLING BUSINESSES.

BUT LIFTING PARKING MINIMUMS, AS YOU TALKED ABOUT, DOESN'T MEAN REMOVING PARKING.

IT JUST ALLOWS INDIVIDUALS TO DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THEY NEED BASED ON A MULTITUDE OF FACTORS RATHER THAN JUST ONE FACTOR BUILDING SIZE.

IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT I'VE LOOKED FOR ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT IN EDISON, THEY PROVIDED BETWEEN THE EXACT MINIMUM PARKING REQUIRED AND 3% ABOVE THE MINIMUM.

THERE MIGHT BE OTHERS, BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES I FOUND.

UM, AND THERE WAS MANY EXCEPTIONS THAT WERE REQUESTED TO GO LOWER IN PARKING.

UM, SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE SYSTEM REALLY WORKING AS INTENDED, UH, IN AN ATTEMPT TO BE MORE ACCURATE WITH THIS DRAFT.

THE STAFF HAS ADDED DIFFERENT USES WITH, UH, DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THIS HAS THE NEGATIVE SIDE EFFECT OF MAKING, REPURPOSING AND DOING ADAPTIVE REUSE, UH, MORE DIFFICULT.

UM, AND I THINK WHILE I THINK MINIMUMS SHOULD BE REMOVED, UH, I DO THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED SPECIFICALLY IN DEPTH AFTER THE PASSING OF THE UC.

SO I'D ENCOURAGE THAT.

BUT FOR NOW, I DO HAVE SOME SPECIFIC TWEAKS THAT I WOULD SUGGEST FOR THE UDC.

THE FIRST ONE IS THAT SINGLE FAMILY

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THE DALLAS CITY PLANNING COMMISSION ACTUALLY JUST PASSED THIS LAST WEEK IN ORDER TO HELP FAMILIES THAT, UH, WANT MULTIPLE BEDROOMS BUT HAVE ONE CAR TWO REDUCE THE MINIMUMS WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE TRANSIT CENTER.

AS WAS DISCUSSED, DALLAS, CBC REMOVES ALL, UH, MINIMUMS WITHIN A HALF MILE, ALSO APPROVED LAST WEEK.

UM, I PERSONALLY WALKED SLIGHTLY OVER HALF A MILE FROM WHERE I LIVED TO THE TRANSIT CENTER REGULARLY.

SO I THINK 0.25 IS A LITTLE BIT TOO SMALL FOR RADIUS.

UM, THREE, I THINK REDUCED RESTAURANT MINIMUM, SOME OF THEM WERE REDUCED FROM 70 TO A HUNDRED PER PER SQUARE FEET.

UM, BUT A LOT OF THEM, SOME OF THEM WERE ALL A HUNDRED PER SQUARE FEET BEFORE, SO THERE'S NO CHANGE.

UH, IT IS THE HIGHEST ONE.

UM, AND THEN FOUR IS JUST A FORMATTING SUGGESTION TO MAKE IT EASIER TO READ AND COMPARE.

UM, OKAY, I'M DOING GOOD ON TIME.

UM, SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S WRITTEN AS ONE SPACE PER CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT I THINK IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO DO A STATIC SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THEN VARY THE NUMBER OF SPACES, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE 10 SPACES PER A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, FOUR SPACES PER A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

THAT WAY YOU CAN COMPARE THE SPACES RATHER THAN KIND OF THE INVERSE WHERE YOU'RE COMPARING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, LIKE ONE SPACE PER A HUNDRED, ONE SPACE PER TWO 50.

THAT'S FORMATTING THING.

I THINK IT MAKES IT EASIER TO READ AND UNDERSTAND.

BUT THAT'S ALL I GOT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CURTIS? UM, I'M GONNA MAKE ONE COMMENTARY TO, TO, TO SOMETHING THAT YOU COMMENTED ABOUT, UM, WITH GOING TO A UNIT COUNT VERSUS A HEADCOUNT.

UM, AS, AS THE WORLD GETS MUCH MORE UNAFFORDABLE FOR HOUSING AND, AND HOUSING HAS BECOME A PROBLEM HERE.

UM, I'VE BOUGHT A LOT OF REAL ESTATE IN CALIFORNIA AND WE CALLED IT HEADS ON BEDS.

AND I WATCHED A LOT OF PROPERTIES THERE.

THAT BECAME A PROBLEM WITH PARKING BECAUSE IN A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT YOU HAVE FOUR ADULTS LIVING THERE FROM AN AFFORDABILITY STANDPOINT, AND THEN THE PROPERTIES ARE NOT PARKED PROPERLY.

SO THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY IN TO TRY TO LIKE, EDUCATE OF LIKE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO ALSO BE LOOKING OUT FOR.

UM, WELL, I, I WAS GONNA SAY ONE OTHER THING ABOUT AT LEAST OUR RESIDENTIAL PARKING.

UM, WE'RE MOST STREETS IN ADDISON, YOU CAN'T PARK AT NIGHT, WHICH IS A REGULATION.

SO IF THERE'S SOME HOUSES ONLY HAVE ONE CAR, BUT IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE CAR, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO? WHERE WOULD THEY EVEN PARK? BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE OFF THE STREETS AT TWO OR TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

UM, AM I ALLOWED TO RESPOND OR SHOULD I I THINK HE CAN RESPOND.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

YOU HAVE ONE SECOND LEFT.

YEAH.

.

OH, I, NO, THEY STOPPED IT.

.

OKAY.

YEAH, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, KEEP IN MIND THESE ARE, LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE MINIMUMS NOT LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE TO BUILD RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE BASICALLY WHAT THEY HAVE TO BUILD.

EVERYONE BUILDS THE MINIMUMS 'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE SO HIGH.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S NOT UNREASONABLE TO JUST LOWER THEM, WHICH IS WHY I EXPECT, UH, RECOMMENDED THE RESTAURANT ONE.

'CAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WASN'T LOWERED OR IT WAS FOR SOME RESTAURANTS.

UM, AND THEN IN THE, AROUND THE TRANSIT CENTER WITH I THINK THE BIKE LANES, NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST, AND THE TRAIN CENTER, THOSE ARE THE MAIN ONES.

UM, I, I JUST WANTED TO BE BETTER.

'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ISSUES, WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT OVERFLOW PARKING, BUT THE, THE INTENT IS TO HELP THE BUSINESSES AND NOT MAKE THEM PAY FOR TOO MUCH PARKING.

AND I THINK THAT HELPS EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY IF, UH, THEY'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT, OH, WE'RE ALL BUILT OUT.

BUT, UM, YEAH, I, I WENT IN AND GIS STUFF AND I, I MAPPED ALL THE PARKING LOTS IN ADDISON AND IT'S OVER 20% PARKING.

AND IN RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL AREAS IT'S OVER 50% OF THE LAND AREA.

IT'S A LOT.

AND SOME OF IT'S USED A LOT, SOME OF IT'S NOT.

SO I THINK JUST MAKING IT MORE SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE BETTER.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, A COUPLE MORE THOUGHTS I THOUGHT OF IN, IN LINE WITH THAT.

SO RELATED TO, UM, PEOPLE WITH MOBILITY IMPAIRMENTS AND SUCH.

QUICK QUESTION FOR, UH, A STAFF HERE.

UM, THOSE ARE THOSE LIKE A DA, UM, HANDICAP PARKING SEPARATE FROM NORMAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT? THEY HAVE TO BE BUILT REGARDLESS.

UH, SO A DA PARKING SPACES ARE, THEY COUNT TOWARDS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF REQUIRED SPACES, RIGHT.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THEM THAT ARE REQUIRED.

AND THAT'S, UM, ACTUALLY REGULATED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGISTRATION.

OKAY.

TDLR.

PERFECT.

AND SO, AND IT'S BASED UPON A RATIO.

AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER FURTHER EXCEPTIONS BASED UPON IF IT'S STRUCTURED PARKING OR NOT STRUCTURED PARKING, AND IF THERE'S A CERTAIN DISTANCE, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE, IF IT'S LIKE SHARED PARKING, THERE'S A LOT OF EXCEPTIONS BELOW THAT, BUT YES.

OKAY.

SO THOSE WHO CANNOT OR CHOOSE NOT TO FOR MOBILITY IMPAIRMENT REASONS TO TAKE TRANSIT, WHICH IS, IN MY EXPERIENCE, VERY MOBILITY FRIENDLY, UM, HAVE THE OPTION TO ALWAYS HAVE SOME SORT OF HANDICAP PARKING REQUIRED OUTSIDE OF PARKING MINIMUMS. UM, THEY, THEY COUNT TOWARDS IT, BUT THERE'S LAWS PROTECTING THAT AVAILABILITY.

YES.

OKAY.

GOTCHA.

UM, AND SO THE CHANGEOVER OF PARKING MINIMUMS, UH, WOULD ALSO KIND OF HAPPEN LIKE WITH REDEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE AN EXISTING TENANT, SAY, HUDSON HOUSE LEAVES TOMORROW, RIGHT?

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MM-HMM .

THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO CHANGE OR REZONING IN THE PARKING MINIMUM.

SO THE DEBATE ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD ENOUGH PARKING FOR THEMSELVES IS KIND OF MOOT UNTIL SUN DEVELOPER COMES BY AND SAYS, LET, LET'S, LET'S REDEVELOPER INFILL AND MIGHT NEED TO REQUEST THAT PLAN.

RIGHT? SORRY, HYPOTHETICALLY.

YES.

OKAY.

AND, BUT THAT IS ALSO, WHICH I, I DON'T KNOW THIS AND I'M NOT MAKING ANY STATEMENTS, BUT THAT IS ALSO UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE SITE MEETS ALL OTHER, UM, CODES AND COMPLIANCE.

SURE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IT WOULD HAVE THE 20% OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.

THAT'S LIKE, IN THAT SCENARIO WE WOULD HAVE TO, THAT'S HOW I WOULD THINK ABOUT THAT TOO.

THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A TENANT LEAVING, NOT AN OWNER.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

THAT'S MY POINT.

THAT ALSO FACTORS INTO WHAT YOU'RE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES THAT THAT SEMI WILL COME BY AND IF THE PARKING, IF THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS HAVE LOWERED, THEY MIGHT SAY, I WANT AN OUTDOOR SEATING AREA.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE OUT FIVE SPACES RIGHT HERE.

AND THAT HAPPENS A LOT.

YEAH.

TO TOASTED YOKE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.

THEY ACTUALLY, IT IS A TENANT THAT WAS IN A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING.

THERE'S THREE O2 OTHER TENANTS, EXCUSE ME, THREE TOTAL.

UM, AND I BELIEVE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, IT GOT APPROVED ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO.

SO IT'S BEEN A MINUTE, BUT I BELIEVE THERE ARE 36 SPACES DEFICIENT.

HOWEVER, UPON EVALUATION OF THAT PARTICULAR, UH, REQUEST, IT WAS DETERMINED THERE WAS A BRUNCH RESTAURANT, TOASTED YOLK.

THERE WAS A, UM, ANOTHER RESTAURANT AT THAT POINT.

IT WAS AT ADDISON POINT.

MM-HMM .

YES.

MM-HMM .

AND IT WAS MORE TAILORED TO LUNCH AND EVENING.

AND THEN THERE WAS A FEDEX RETAIL STORE.

SO WE DETERMINED, AND WE WROTE THE SUP IN A WAY THAT SAID ESSENTIALLY IF THERE'S ANY CHANGE OF USES IN TERMS OF ATTEN INTENSITY BASED UPON THE TIMES OF DAY, WE WOULD NEED TO REEVALUATE THAT.