Sep 17, 2024 Planning & Zoning Commission Work Session

SORRY, GO NOW.

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[1. Call Meeting to Order]

LET'S CALL THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WORK SESSION TO ORDER.

LESLIE,

[1. Status update and announcements on recent Planning and Zoning Commission cases and planning policy items.]

THANK YOU.

UM, SO JUST A COUPLE, OH, EXCUSE ME.

LESLIE KNIGHT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

A COUPLE, UM, UPDATES ON, UM, RECENT PNZ CASES.

SO THE GREENHILL, UM, SCHOOL SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE CENTER THAT, UH, WAS APPROVED AT THE LAST PNZ MEETING AND IT WAS, UM, SCHEDULED FOR COUNCIL.

IT ULTIMATELY GOT, UM, POSTPONED UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER 24TH MEETING, WHICH IS NEXT A WEEK FROM TODAY, UM, TO RESOLVE SOME OF THE OUTSTANDING ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE TREE SCREENING ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE.

THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND THERE WAS A, A RESOLUTION FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.

NOW WE'RE JUST FINALIZING THE PLAN SO THAT WE CAN GET THOSE INSERTED INTO THE SUP.

SO MOVING FORWARD AND, UM, ANTICIPATE A RESOLUTION AT THE NEXT WEEK'S COUNCIL MEETING.

AND THEN JUST A COUPLE OF UPDATES 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T SHARED ANY IN A WHILE WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REWRITE.

UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING A FULL REVIEW OF THE ENTIRE CONSOLIDATED DRAFT RIGHT NOW ON THE STAFF LEVEL.

AND THEN, UM, WE'LL SEND THAT TO THE CONSULTANT AND GET BACK KIND OF A, A FIRST FINAL DRAFT AND WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REVIEW.

SO WE'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED ON THAT.

UM, IT'LL BE LATER THIS FALL.

WE'LL GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ON THAT.

AND THEN ALSO WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ADVANCE ADDISON 2050.

RIGHT NOW THE CONSULTANT IS, UM, WRITING THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE ENTIRE PLAN.

WE ANTICIPATE GETTING THAT BACK MID-OCTOBER, UM, AND WOULD HOPEFULLY HAVE IT RELEASED FOR, UM, YOU ALL TO REVIEW SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER.

SO WE'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED ON THAT AS WELL.

BUT MOVING FORWARD ON BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS, UM, FULL STEAM AHEAD.

ALL

[2. Discussion regarding items on the agenda for the September 17, 2024 Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting: August 20, 2024 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes Replat request for Greenhill School Addition (R2024-02) Special Use Permit Amendment request for Hachi Restaurant (1920-SUP) Special Use Permit Amendment request for Toasted Yolk (1921-SUP) Special Use Permit Amendment request for Landmark Grill (1922-SUP) Special Use Permit Amendment request for Nouveau (1923-SUP)]

AND THEN, UM, ITEM TWO, JUST REVIEWING SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING.

SO THE FIRST IS THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING, WHICH IS AUGUST 20TH, 2024.

ARE THERE ANY, UM, COMMENTS OR CORRECTIONS ON THOSE? PERFECT.

AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM IS THE REPL REQUEST FOR GREENHILL SCHOOL.

UM, THIS, IF YOU RECALL, HAS BEEN EXTENDED MAYBE FOUR TIMES.

SO THEY'RE FINALLY READY FOR IT TO BE, EXCUSE ME, APPROVED, UM, AFTER P AND Z APPROVED THE SUP AND THEY DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES.

SO THEY'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REPL AT THIS TIME.

UM, NO ADDITIONAL CHANGES FROM WHAT HAS BEEN SHOWN PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

SO THEY'RE JUST MODIFYING SOME OF THE UTILITY DRAINAGE AND FIRE LANE EASEMENTS TO ACCOMMODATE THE, UM, ATHLETIC CENTER.

AND THE NEXT ITEM IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR, UM, HACHI RESTAURANT.

SO HACHI IS A NEW, UM, SUSHI, SUSHI RESTAURANT THAT'S GOING IN AT TOWN HALL CENTER.

I'M GONNA PULL UP, UH, THE SITE PLAN REALLY QUICK.

SO, UM, IT'S AT THE, THE TOWN HALL CENTER SHOPPING CENTER, UH, OFF BELTLINE.

AND, UM, THIS PARTICULAR SUITE HAS, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NEVER BEEN A RESTAURANT PREVIOUSLY.

AND SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ADD A NEW RESTAURANT WITH THE SALE OF ALCOHOL AS WELL.

UM, SO THEY ARE PROPOSING A PRETTY EXTENSIVE, UM, REMODEL THAT WILL CHANGE THAT AREA OF THE CENTER.

AND THE, THE, UM, AESTHETIC FROM THE EXTERIOR.

THIS IS A, UM, A RENDERING.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING CENTER WAS BUILT IN AROUND 1980.

SO IT HAS, UM, KIND OF A STUCCO FINISH WITH A WALKWAY AND THEY'RE EXTENDING A PATIO OUT INTO THE PARKING AREA, TAKING, UM, FIVE PARKING SPACES TO DO THAT.

AND SO HERE'S ANOTHER, UM, IMAGE.

SO THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY COMBINING A SUITE, THEY'RE USING AN EXISTING SUITE, BUT THEY ARE, UM, ADDING A PATIO SPACE, UM, INTO THE PARKING LOT AREA.

THEY ARE STAYING OUTSIDE OF THE FIRE LANE.

UM, AND THEY ARE JUST, UM, FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE HAVING TO MAKE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE MODIFICATIONS.

UM, 'CAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE, UM, PERMANENT IMPROVEMENTS OVER WATER MAINS, BUT WE'RE HANDLING THAT ON THE CIVIL SIDE.

SO WE'VE ALREADY RESOLVED THOSE ISSUES.

UM, SO REGARDING THE PARKING, AS I MENTIONED, THEY ARE REMOVING FIVE SPACES, BUT THE CENTER IS, UM, VERY MUCH OVER PARKED.

THEY, EVEN WITH THESE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS, THEY WILL EXCEED THE PARKING BY 58 SPACES.

SO, UM, THIS, THE CENTER IS ACTUALLY BISECTED

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UM, BUT IT'S ALL COMMON OWNERSHIP AND ALL UNDER THE SAME PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED IN 1979.

SO, UM, AND THEN JUST THERE'S VERY MINOR LANDSCAPING CHANGES.

UM, AND THE CHANGES DON'T, AREN'T REALLY A NET GAIN OR LOSS.

UM, THEY ARE JUST, UH, REMO MODIFYING ONE OF THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE ISLANDS TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE PATIO.

AND THEN THE NEW LANDSCAPING WILL BE ADDED AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PATIO SPACE.

UM, AND THERE WASN'T, WASN'T ANY, UH, FEEDBACK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION OF THIS.

SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? GREAT.

SORRY.

ON WHEN THEY SEPARATE THAT DINING AREA FROM, THERE'S A PUBLIC WALK THAT GOES UNDERNEATH IT, THEY KEEP AN OPEN, RIGHT? YES.

SO THE, THERE IS THAT WALKWAY THAT ACTUALLY SERVES AS LIKE A DA ACCESS 'CAUSE THERE'S A DA PARKING FURTHER TO THE NORTH, UM, CLOSER TO BELTLINE.

AND SO THAT ACCESS WILL REMAIN OPEN AND YOU'LL JUST, IT'S JUST ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO ACCESS THE RESTAURANT THROUGH THE PATIO AREA, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO LIKE WHERE THOSE COLUMNS ARE, THAT'S AN OVERHANG THAT'S THERE, THAT'S STAYING, THAT'S GONNA BE PUBLIC ACCESS.

SO THAT GOES ALL THE WAY ALONG THE BUILDING THERE.

THEY HAVE TO PUT, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER RE REQUIREMENTS.

THERE'S SEVERAL ALCOHOL I'M ASSUMING.

MM-HMM.

OUT THERE.

DO THEY HAVE TO PUT A FENCE UP ON THAT? SO IT JUST HAS TO BE DELINEATED? OH, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE.

OKAY.

THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, WAYS THAT TABC WILL ALLOW THAT TO BE DELINEATED.

DOESN'T NEED TO NECESSARILY RESTRICT ACCESS.

IT COULD, UM, IT COULD LITERALLY BE AS, AS SIMPLE AS LIKE A, A, A ROPE.

I DON'T THINK FROM AESTHETIC STANDPOINT THEY WOULD DO THAT.

UM, BUT IT COULD JUST BE, UM, A, A NON RESTRICTIVE BARRIER, I GUESS IS MY POINT.

OKAY.

YEAH, I DIDN'T, I MEAN, IT USED TO ALWAYS DO WITH FENCES AND A LITTLE GATE OR SOMETHING, WHICH MM-HMM, .

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN, UH, THE NEXT ITEM, UM, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT REQUEST FOR TOASTED YOLK.

UH, THIS IS CASE NUMBER 1921 AT UM, DASH SUP.

UM, OH, SORRY, I'M GONNA GO BACKTRACK ONE MOMENT.

I APOLOGIZE.

I DIDN'T BRING THIS UP.

I FORGOT THERE WAS A CONDITION, UM, ON THE HOT SHEET RESTAURANT.

SO THE ONE THING, UM, I'LL NOTE, UH, THERE ARE LIGHTS PROPOSED ON THE PATIO.

I ANTICIPATE THEY WILL LIKELY HAVE SOME SORT OF SPEAKERS TO CREATE SOME AMBIANCE FOR THE OUTDOOR PATIO SPACE.

SO, UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDING ADDING THIS CONDITION JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN THE VICINITY AND WE DON'T WANT NOISE TO CARRY.

UM, I AM, I SUSPECT THEY WILL BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, BUT WE JUST WANNA HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS IN PLACE IN CASE, UM, WE HAVE TO ENFORCE IN THE FUTURE.

ALRIGHT, SO NOW MOVING ON TO THE TOASTED YOLK AMENDMENT.

UM, THIS REQUEST IS SIMPLY TO ADD A COVERED STRUCTURE OVER THE EXISTING PATIO.

UH, SO TOASTED YOLK WAS APPROVED FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022.

UM, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.

UM, WITH THAT THEY WERE APPROVED TO ADD A PATIO AND THEY TOOK ABOUT THREE PARKING SPACES TO DO SO.

AND WHAT THEY EVENTUALLY DID WAS, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE RENDERING IN THE TOP, UH, RIGHT HAND CORNER.

THEY JUST PROPOSED TABLES WITH PA UH, TABLE UMBRELLAS.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS WANTING TO, UM, PUT A PERMANENT STRUCTURE TO AVOID HAVING TO TAKE THE, THE UMBRELLAS UP AND DOWN EVERY DAY.

AND IT ALSO, UH, PROVIDES JUST A, A BETTER, UM, SHADE, A BETTER EXPERIENCE, UM, WITH THE PATIO COVER, THEY WILL INSTALL SOME CEILING FANS AS WELL.

IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE FOR, UM, A LONGER DURATION DURING THE YEAR.

THIS PATIO IS NOT ANTICIPATED OR THE APPLICANT IS NOT, UM, REQUESTING TO HAVE ANY SORT OF LIGHTS OR NO SOUND, AMPLIFIED SOUND WITH THIS PATIO.

UM, THEY CURRENTLY DO NOT, UH, THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR TOASTED OAK ARE IS, IT IS A BRUNCH RESTAURANT.

UH, SO I BELIEVE THEY CLOSE, IT'S EITHER AT TWO OR 3:00 PM UM, SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE THERE BEING ANY CONCERNS WITH, WITH NOISE OR, OR BRIGHT LIGHTS.

AND THERE ALSO IS NOT ANY IMMEDIATE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCIES THAT I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT.

UM, THERE'S NO OTHER PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS OTHER THAN SIMPLY ADDING THE EX THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE, WHICH WILL BE CONSTRUCTED OF, OF A WOOD FRAME WITH METAL DECKING ON THE TOP.

QUESTION, , I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN BEFORE ON, ON SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT THEY, THEY PUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN, THEN THEY COME BACK IN AND THEY PUT SIDES ON THE THING AND THAT THROWS IT INTO, OKAY, NOW YOU GOTTA SPRINKLE THE THING.

SO, MM-HMM,

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LIKE I THINK THAT'S THE CODE, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T PUT, THEY CAN'T PUT PLASTIC ROLL DOWN STUFF IN THERE.

YEAH, I, I MEAN, I, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF LIMITATIONS.

I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO THE FIRE MARSHAL WHAT EXACTLY THOSE ARE, BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, SHADE.

IF THE SUN IS, YOU KNOW, COMING IN AT ONE ANGLE, IT HELPS.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU'RE NOT DINING WITH SUN RIGHT.

IN YOUR EYES AND SO FORTH.

BUT YES, THE, I WILL SAY THAT GIVEN ITS LOCATION AND PROXIMITY, UH, OR I GUESS A PROMINENCE ON BELTLINE, UH, AND HAVING STAFF DRIVE BY IT ON A VERY FREQUENT BASIS, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT BEING AN ISSUE.

I WOULD ANTICIPATE OUR FIRE MARSHAL WOULD CATCH IT PRETTY QUICKLY.

YEAH, I JUST, I MEAN, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE CODE IS, BUT I THINK WHEN THEY START GETTING INTO THOSE PLASTIC ROLL DOWN ZIPPER SHADES THAT KIND OF ENCLOSED THE WHOLE THING, LIKE TO MAKE IT SO YOU CAN SIT OUT THERE IN THE WINTER TIME, THAT BECOMES, THAT'S WHAT I'M KIND OF THINKING.

CORRECT.

YES.

NO, THAT IS AN ISSUE.

AND, UM, THIS IS, SINCE THIS IS AN SUP AMENDMENT, IT IS CODIFIED BASED UPON WHAT'S APPROVED IN THE SUP AMENDMENT IF IT IS APPROVED.

SO WE'D BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT OKAY.

FROM THAT STANDPOINT AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT.

AND STAFF'S ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.

UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR, UM, LANDMARK.

UM, THIS REQUEST IS AT, UH, VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.

UH, THE RESTAURANT SPACE IS LOCATED BETWEEN, UM, TWO EXISTING RESTAURANTS, UH, VIDORA AT THE NORTH AND THEN HAWKERS AT THE SOUTH.

UM, IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE HAS BEEN VACANT, UM, SINCE AT LEAST 2017 BASED UPON WHAT I COULD TELL.

UM, I COULDN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT DATE, UM, BASED UPON, UH, RECORDS AND, AND STREET VIEWS AND SO FORTH.

BUT, UM, THIS REQUEST WOULD, UH, OCCUPY THAT SPACE FOR A NEW RESTAURANT WITH THE SALE OF ALCOHOL FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.

HERE'S JUST A, A RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED FACADE, SO IT'S QUITE A DRAMATIC CHANGE TO WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.

UM, THEY'RE DOING WHAT, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT FEDORA DID RIGHT NEXT DOOR, THERE WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF AN OPEN SPACE AND THEY EXTENDED INTO IT AND CREATED A BUILDING ADDITION TO EXPAND THE, THE RESTAURANT AREA.

SO, UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO TAKE THE EXISTING SUITE, WHICH IS ABOUT, UM, 3,700 SQUARE FEET.

AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING ABOUT A 1500 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ADDITION.

THEY WOULD TAKE, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S FOUR EXISTING PARKING SPACES.

UH, YES, IT'S FOUR EXISTING PARKING SPACES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF THE SUITE, UM, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE KIND OF, UM, I'M GONNA SAY THE PEDESTRIAN OR PUBLIC REALM.

AND THEY'RE GOING, THEY'RE ADDING A BUILDING ADDITION INTO THAT AREA TO EXPAND THE RESTAURANT, WHICH WOULD, UM, PUSH THEM JUST OVER 5,000 SQUARE FEET IN TOTAL.

UM, THERE IS NO OUTDOOR PATIO SPACE HOW, BUT HOWEVER, THEY ARE PROPOSING THESE, UM, ACCORDION, LARGE ACCORDION WINDOWS ON THE FRONT FACADE SO THEY COULD OPEN THEM WHEN THE WEATHER'S NICE AND YOU KIND OF GET THAT INDOOR OUTDOOR FEEL, UM, BUT IT'S STILL, UH, ABLE TO USE IT YEAR ROUND.

UM, A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THEY ARE PROPOSING SOME, UM, A SMALL ENTERTAINMENT COMPONENT.

SO YOU'LL SEE ON THE FLOOR PLAN THERE'S A MECHANICAL BULL PROPOSED.

UM, THERE'S ALSO SOME ARCADE GAMES KIND OF, UM, REMINISCENT OR A SMALL SCALE OF WHAT YOU SEE AT SIDECAR SOCIAL, UM, NEARBY, UH, THIS PARTICULAR CONCEPT, UH, HAS AN EXISTING LOCATION IN FORT WORTH THAT DOES VERY WELL.

SO, UH, THEY'RE, UM, LOOKING TO OPEN ANOTHER LOCATION HERE IN ADDISON.

UM, SO WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE FOUR PARKING SPACES, AS I, AS I NOTED, UM, THE CENTER IS STILL, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY OVER PARKED BASED UPON THE MIXED USE PARKING RATIO THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SO YOU'LL SEE DOWN AT THE, IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER, UM, WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, UM, WOULD BE, SORRY, WHAT WOULD BE, UH, PROPOSED TO BE REQUIRED IF THIS WAS APPROVED WOULD BE 2,137 SPACES AND IF APPROVED THEY WOULD HAVE 2,256 SPACES.

AND, UH, I GUESS I WILL NOTE THERE WAS, I DID MAKE A SMALL ERROR IN THE STAFF REPORT REGARDING THE PARKING.

SO YOU'LL NOTICE THERE WAS, AND, AND I, UM, DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO CORRECT IT FOR THE PACKET OR IT WAS ALREADY PUBLISHED BY THE TIME I NOTICED IT.

AND SO, UM, THE REASON THAT IS, IS 'CAUSE I USED THE ONE PER 100 PARKING RATIO INSTEAD OF THE ONE PER 2 25, WHICH IS, UM, APPLICABLE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

UM, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY HOW IT'S WRITTEN IN THE STAFF REPORT IS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT'S ALLOWED.

SO IT'S CORRECT ON THIS PRESENTATION.

AND THEN, UM, WITH THIS THEY ARE REMOVING SOME EXISTING SHRUBS.

IT'S A VERY SMALL LANDSCAPE AREA WITH

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UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO ADD, KIND OF REPOSITION THOSE LANDSCAPE BEDS TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE NEW BUILDING ADDITION, WHICH YOU, I THINK YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IN THIS IMAGE, UM, JUST IMMEDIATELY BELOW WHERE THE MECHANICAL BOWL IS, THERE'S A NEW LANDSCAPE BED IN THAT AREA.

UM, AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AS WELL.

QUESTIONS? I DUNNO IF IT'S A QUESTION OR MORE OF JUST A GET IT OFF MY CHEST THING, BUT I KNOW THIS IS, IT'S ALL BECAUSE IT'S, THE PARKING IS BASED ON MIXED USE.

MM-HMM.

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BUT IT'S OBVIOUSLY WAY, WAY, WAY MORE RESTAURANT THAN JUST REGULAR RETAIL.

AT WHAT POINT, LIKE, IT'S PARKING'S TERRIBLE THERE AND I'M ALL, FOR ALL THESE NEW RESTAURANTS COMING IN, IT IS WONDERFUL, I'M SO HAPPY.

BUT LIKE, AT WHAT POINT IS IT LIKE CRITICAL MASS AND LIKE DO THE OWNERS OF THE CENTER HAVE ANY PLANS? I MEAN, 'CAUSE THIS'S GONNA GET TO THE POINT WHERE PEOPLE DON'T GO 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T PARK.

AND I JUST, I DON'T WANNA LIKE RUFFLE FEATHERS OR ANYTHING, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED OR IF THAT'S ANYWHERE.

YEAH.

SO RIGHT NOW I THINK WHICH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A PER, UH, I'M GONNA SAY A, A PER SOMEWHAT PERCEIVED PARKING ISSUE PRIOR TO, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S EVEN MORE CONSTRAINT DUE TO THE, UM, CONSTRUCTION OF CONSTRUCTION, THE BLOCK 900, WHICH THEY ARE ANTICIPATING WRAPPING THAT UP, UH, LATER THIS YEAR.

I THINK THE LAST TIME I HEARD WAS AROUND NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME.

UM, SO RIGHT NOW, SO WITH THAT PROJECT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY ADDING MORE PARKING TO THE CENTER.

UM, BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE BLOCKING A LOT OF THE, WHAT WILL REMAIN AS PARKING BECAUSE OF THEY NEED LARGER CONSTRUCTION AREA, SO IT'S EVEN TIGHTER AND THEY'RE BLOCKING SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF THE MORE CONVENIENT ACCESS LANES AS WELL.

UM, A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS IS THE, THERE'S, I GUESS THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

ONE, UH, THE PARKING GARAGE IS NOT VERY CENTRALLY LOCATED.

SO, AND, AND I DON'T WANNA, UM, BE DECEPTIVE.

THERE ARE TIMES WHERE THE PARKING GARAGE HAS BEEN FULL.

THERE'S TIMES I WENT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TOP AND HAD TO TURN AROUND AND COME DOWN 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN FULL AND I CAN'T FIND SERVICE PARKING.

UM, BUT A LOT OF TIMES IS, WHAT IS HAPPENING IS IT'S, THERE'S AN INCONVENIENT PARKING SITUATION HAPPENING, NOT NECESSARILY A PARKING DEMAND.

NOW ON THE, I WOULD SAY ON THE MORE BUSY NIGHTS, UM, YOUR FRIDAY, SATURDAY NIGHT WHEN THERE'S MORE ACTIVITY, THERE IS A VERY CONSTRAINED PARKING.

SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE, THE, UM, OWNER TO TRY TO IMPLEMENT SOME THINGS THAT ARE, UM, MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY MORE PARKING IN THE NEAR TERM, BUT PARKING IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THERE'S DIFFERENT, UM, MECHANISMS WHERE IT CAN ACTUALLY, SIMILAR, YOU SEE 'EM AT AIRPORTS WHERE THEY HAVE LIKE THE GREEN AND RED LIGHTS OR THEY TELL YOU LIKE THERE'S AN ARROW AND THERE'S A DIGITAL SCREEN THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 200 PARKING SPACES THIS WAY GO THAT WAY TO HELP DO THAT.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE SOFTWARE FOR THAT IS, IS QUITE PRICEY.

SO THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE BLOCK 900 PROJECT FIRST BEFORE THEY TAKE ON SOME OF THOSE OTHER PROJECTS.

UM, OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'VE CONSIDERED IS WHAT DOES THE FUTURE LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS ADDING MORE PARKING? BECAUSE IF THEY WANNA ADD MORE DENSITY AND DO PROJECTS, EVEN THIS IS A VERY SMALL SCALE, BUT THEY WANTED TO DO ANY MORE SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADD MORE STRUCTURED PARKING.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM IS WHAT IS THE EVOLUTION OF VOP LOOK LIKE, UM, AND HOW CAN WE BETTER SERVE THAT? AND THEN THE LAST THING I'LL ADD IS WITH THE COMP PLAN, WE'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT THIS SITE TO INCREASE MULTIMODAL CONNECTIVITY.

SO PEOPLE WHO MAYBE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, CAN ACCESS THE SITE NOT WITH A CAR, AND THAT WILL HELP ALLEVIATE IT.

SO, UM, SOMETHING THE PARKS TEAM IS DOING AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM IS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT A NEW PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION ACROSS THE D AND T.

UM, SO 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF LIKE PLAYING GAME OF FROGGER , TRY TO GET ACROSS THERE.

UM, SO I WILL SAY THERE'S, THAT IS VERY TOP OF MIND FOR ALL OF US AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO.

UM, I'LL ALSO, LAST THING I PROMISE SAY THAT, UM, IT'S KIND OF GOOD THAT WE'RE HAVING A PARKING PROBLEM, SO THAT MEANS WE HAVE EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL CENTER.

OH, FOR SURE.

THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU.

I GOT ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN, LIKE WE USED TO ALWAYS PUT ON HERE, LIKE THE WHOLE SIGNAGE THING ABOUT NO ALCOHOLIC AND I DON'T MM-HMM.

FOR THESE THINGS AND I DON'T SEE 'EM ON ANY OF THESE.

YEAH.

SO, UM, ABOUT THAT I BELIEVE YOU'VE BEEN IN, WERE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ON THE UDC COMMITTEE OR WERE INVOLVED IN THAT, UM, FROM THE P AND Z OR COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE, BUT, UM, REGULATING, AH, SIGNAGE, WHAT

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SO WE ARE MOVING AWAY FROM THAT WITH THE UDC AND WE HAVE SLOWLY STARTED TO DO THAT, UM, WITH ALL OF OUR PROJECTS, WE'RE SEEING ENOUGH SAID.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

AND THEN THE FINAL REQUEST OR FINAL CASE, UM, IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR, UM, NOUVEAU.

THIS IS ANOTHER RESTAURANT AT VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.

UM, IT'S IN THE LOCATION THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DREAM CAFE.

HOWEVER, IT HAS BEEN VACANT SINCE APPROXIMATELY 2017 TO 2018.

ONCE AGAIN, I COULDN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT YEAR.

UM, IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

UM, IT'S SUITE 7 32, WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF WHERE NANDOS PERRY PERRY IS, UH, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA.

SO THIS REQUEST WOULD BE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A RESTAURANT WITH THE SALE OF ALCOHOL.

UH, THE REASON THAT, UM, UH, THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED IS DUE TO SOME OTHER, I WOULD SAY, SUBDIVISION OF SPACE ON ADJACENT SUITES.

THIS PARTICULAR RESTAURANT HAS ACTUALLY EXPANDED SLIGHTLY ABOUT, UH, 800 TO A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET FROM WHAT DREAM CAFE WAS, ALTHOUGH IT HAS RETAINED ALMOST IDENTICAL INTERIOR LAYOUT.

IT'S JUST SLIGHTLY LARGER.

UM, SO THEY'RE USING, LIKE I SAID, THE EXISTING, UM, SUITE, IT'S JUST UNDER 4,000 SQUARE FEET WITH, THERE IS AN EXISTING EXTERIOR PATIO SPACE.

IT'S ABOUT 600 SQUARE FEET.

UM, THEY'RE PROVIDING SEATING FOR ABOUT 77 INDIVIDUALS.

UM, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROPOSED TO BE OPEN 11:00 AM TO TO MIDNIGHT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

THEY CURRENTLY HAVE TWO OTHER LOCATIONS IN GEORGIA, UM, THAT ARE, ARE VERY, VERY POPULAR.

THEY KIND OF SPECIALIZE IN LIKE SOUTHERN COMFORT FOOD.

UM, WITH THIS PROPOSAL.

THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE PARKING OR THE LANDSCAPING.

IT'S ALL REMAINING AS IT IS TODAY.

UM, THEY'RE, UH, ADDITIONALLY NOT PROPOSING ANY, LIKE, MODIFICATIONS TO THE FACADE.

SO THEY'RE MAINTAINING THE WINDOWS AND THE DOORS AS THEY ARE.

THEY HAVE CONSIDERED PAINTING THE BUILDING, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE TYPICALLY DON'T REQUIRE ZONING APPROVAL FOR, FOR CHANGING PAINT COLOR.

AND THEY'LL ALSO ADD SOME SIGNAGE, JUST LIKE ALL OF OUR, OUR OTHER RESTAURANTS TYPICALLY DO, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THEY'RE KIND OF USING THE EXISTING SPACE AS IS.

UM, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? ALRIGHT, UM, I THINK THAT IS, THAT'S ALL THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN ADJOURN THE WORK SESSION IF YOU WOULD.

YEP.

WE CAN ADJOURN TO THE REGULAR SESSION IN SEVEN MINUTES.