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[1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present.]
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.IT IS FIVE OH ONE AND WE'LL CALL THE ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL.
WE DO HAVE THE FORM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT WITH ALL MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING.
WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, CITIZEN COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES.
IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLARIFICATION, REQUEST REGARDING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS NEEDED FROM THE COUNCIL? NO MA'AM.
ON ANY CONSENT ITEMS? NO MA'AM.
[4. Closed Meeting. The Addison City Council will enter a Closed Meeting pursuant to Texas Government Code Sections 551-071 through 090 to discuss the following item(s):]
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A CLOSED MEETING.THE ABSENCE OF COUNCIL WILL ENTER A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 DASH SEVEN ONE THROUGH 0 9 0 TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, 5 1 0 7 1.
PARAGRAPH TWO, CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY TO SEEK ADVICE ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY IS TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS.
CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH CHAPTER 5 5, 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
AND THE ITEM IS ORDINANCE ADOPTING A RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM, AND IT IS 5 0 2.
SO WE WILL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THIS TIME FOR ALL THOSE THAT DO NOT NEED TO BE HERE.
[5. Open Meeting. In accordance with Texas Government Code Chapter 551, the Addison City Council will reconvene in an Open Meeting to consider action, if any, on the matters discussed in the Closed Meeting.]
5 31 AND WE ARE COMING BACK INTO OPEN SESSION FROM, FROM THE CLOSED SESSION.AND THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN FROM THE CLOSED SESSION.
AND SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO OUR WORK SESSION REPORTS.
[a. Present and discuss progress on the Rental & Lodging Registration and Inspection Program. ]
SIX A, PRESENT AND DISCUSS PROGRESS ON THE RENTAL AND LODGING REGISTRATION AND INSPECTION PROGRAM.I'M DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
UM, SO THIS EVENING WE HAVE, UM, SOME NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE FOLKS WITH ME THIS EVENING.
OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, KEVIN MARTIN, AS WELL AS OUR CO COMPLIANCE MANAGER, UM, OMAR ARANDA TO PRESENT A PROGRESS UPDATE ON THE RENTAL AND LODGING, UH, REGISTRATION AND INSPECTION PROGRAM.
UH, SO THIS, UH, PROGRAM HAS BEEN VERY IMPORTANT, EASY TO MAINTAIN A HIGH QUALITY OF OUR, BOTH OUR, UH, VARIOUS RESIDENTIAL HOUSING TYPES AND, UH, OUR HOTEL MOTEL ESTABLISHMENTS OR VARIOUS OTHER LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN ADDISON.
AND SO TO EMPHASIZE HOW IMPORTANT THIS WAS WITH THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET, WE HAD SEVERAL RESOURCES ALLOCATED TO OUR DEPARTMENT, WHICH INCLUDED THE CREATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TEAM.
UM, SO THAT INCLUDED FUNDING FOR AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, A CODE COMPLIANCE MANAGER, AND AN ADDITIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, IN ADDITION TO OUR TWO EXISTING CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO ADMINISTER THIS NEW PROGRAM.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, KEVIN MARTIN, TO, UH, SHARE THE REST OF THE PROGRAM WITH YOU, MAYOR COUNSEL.
UM, WHAT I HAVE BEFORE YOU HERE IS THIS OVERVIEW OF OUR RENTAL WA REGISTRATION INSPECTION PROGRAM.
UH, BUT BEFORE I START ON THAT, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES THAT OUR MISSION, UH, OUR MISSION IS TO ENHANCE AND PROTECT QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS BY PROMOTING TO SAFE, VIBRANT, AND MORE ENGAGED UNION.
UM, SOME OF THE, UH, DIVISIONS THAT'S WITHIN NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TO COMPLIANCE, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, AND TO BE SERVICES.
UM, TO GIVE THAT OVERVIEW OF THIS PROGRAM, UM, THE, UH, PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO ENSURE AND PROMOTE HEALTH AND SAFE CONDITIONS IN ALL OUR PROPERTIES AND HOTEL AND HOTEL ESTABLISHMENTS.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'LL ADDRESS IS UNSAFE AND UNHEALTHY CONDITIONS, THREATS OF THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE BUILDING, SUCH AS IN THIS PICTURE AND DEFERRED MAINTENANCE BY SOME OF THESE THINGS.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE HOPE TO ADDRESS WHILE WE'RE ON SITE AND, UH, SOME OF THE PROGRAM GOALS.
UH, JUST TO TOUCH ON A FEW OF THESE, UH, WE WANNA MAINTAIN, OBVIOUSLY, A HEALTHY
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HOUSING STOCK FROM THE TOWN.UH, WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE RENTAL AND HOTEL AND MOTEL OWNERS UP FRONT TO ACHIEVE VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE BY IDENTIFYING BUILDING ISSUES.
UM, WE ALSO WANT TO MOST OF ALL BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE, WITH THE RURAL COMMUNITY AND PROPERTY MANAGERS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, WHO'S AFFECTED BY THIS PROGRAM.
UH, SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL PROPERTIES, UH, WHICH INCLUDES TOWN HOMES, CONDOMINIUMS, AND DUPLEXES.
UM, MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES, WHICH ARE ALSO KNOWN TO MANY AS APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND HOTEL AND HOTELS.
UH, JUST TO TOUCH ON, UH, SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THE, THE REGISTRATION COMPONENT OF THE ORDINANCE.
UM, ALL RENTAL PROPERTIES, UH, OWNERS MUST REGISTER THE PROPERTIES WITH THE TOWN OF MEDICINE.
UM, THE PROPERTY OWNERS WILL ALSO BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT, UH, DETAILED INFORMATION ON THEIR APPLICATIONS.
UM, AND, UM, LASTLY, THE DIRECTOR HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DENY, SUSPEND, OR REVOKE REGISTRATIONS BASED ON VARIOUS FACTORS.
UH, FOR THE INSPECTION COMPONENT OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
UH, THE TIME OF SUBMIT THE PROPERTY INSPECTIONS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH ALL SAFETY CODES, UM, THAT INCLUDES OUR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE BUILDING, FIRE AND HEALTH.
UM, INTERIOR EXTERIOR INSPECTIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED ON ALL RENTAL PROPERTIES.
UM, STAFF WILL PROVIDE AT LEAST A 14 DAY NOTICE FOR INTERIOR INSPECTIONS, UM, THAT WAY THE, UH, MULTIFAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY MANAGERS CAN GET TENANT THAT AMOUNT OF TIME TO PREPARE FOR THAT INSPECTION.
UM, AND UH, LASTLY, STAFF WILL PRIORITIZE, UH, THESE INSPECTIONS BASED UPON THE AGE OF COMPLIANCE, UM, COMPLAINTS AND, UM, VIOLATIONS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY.
UH, IMPLEMENTATION, UM, SINCE THE PROGRAM WILL BE EXPIRING ON DECEMBER 31ST, WE PROPOSE AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF JANUARY 1ST OF NEXT YEAR.
UM, DEADLINES FOR THE REGISTRATION ON MARCH THE FIRST.
AFTER MARCH 1ST, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS WILL BE SUBJECT TO CITATIONS IF THEY'RE STILL IN VIOLATION.
UM, INSPECTIONS MAY BEGIN ONCE WE RECEIVE A COMPLETED FOR UH, REGISTRATION AND THE FEES HAVE BEEN PAID.
UM, MULTI-FAMILY AND HOTEL MOTELS BUILT WITHIN THE PAST FIVE YEARS WILL BE EXEMPT FROM THE ROUTINE INSPECTIONS.
HOWEVER, UM, STAFF MAY EXPECT INSPECTING ANY TIME, UH, BASED ON ANY COMPLAINTS OR VIOLATIONS THAT RECEIVED AT PRESENT.
UH, HERE'S JUST A, UM, KIND OF A RUNDOWN OF THE PROCESS, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, INITIALLY THEY WOULD SUBMIT THE REGISTRATION.
WE COLLECT FEES, STAFF SCHEDULES AND INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY.
PROPERTY OWNERS ARE GIVEN A 14 DAY NOTICE AND, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE GIVEN 14 DAYS TO NOTIFY TENANTS.
UH, STAFF CONDUCTS AN INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR INSPECTION.
AT THAT TIME, THERE'S NO, UH, VIOLATION IS FOUND.
THEN WE'LL PASS THE INSPECTION.
HOWEVER, IF A VIOLATION IS FOUND, UH, WE'LL ISSUE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, AND REINSPECTION WILL BE SCHEDULED AT THAT TIME.
ONCE THE REINSPECTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED, A CITATION MAY BE ISSUED TO THE PROPERTY HONOR IF THE VIOLATIONS THIS, AND THEN AT THAT TIME, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO APPROVE, UH, COST RECOVERY.
UH, FULL COST RECOVERY MEANS SECURING FUNDING FOR ALL OF THE COSTS INVOLVED IN RUNNING THE PROGRAM DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY.
UH, PROPOSED FEES FOR THIS PROGRAM ARE BASED UPON ANTICIPATED OPERATING COSTS, AND, UH, IT IS NECESSARY FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROGRAM IS STILL, UH, SUSTAINED.
UH, HERE ARE SOME OF THE PROPOSED FEES AND PROJECTED REVENUE, UH, FROM THOSE FEES.
UH, SINGLE FAMILY FEE YOU SEE IS PROPOSED AT ONE 15, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH, FEE.
UH, HOTEL MOTEL FEE IS $40, AND THESE ARE THE PER UNION.
AND, UM, WE ALSO HAVE A PROPOSED REINSPECTION FEE OF $75 FOR THE FIRST REINSPECTION AND 1 25 FOR THE SECOND REINSPECTION, WHICH IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH CURRENTLY WHAT OUR BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT IS CHARGING.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM, THE TOTAL PROJECTED REVENUE FROM THOSE PROJECTED, UH, FEES, AND WE ANTICIPATING, UH, COST RECOVERY OF A HUNDRED PERCENT AT THIS TIME.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR? YES, SIR.
UM, ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, I HAD A NOTE IN MY, MY PRESENTATION, THE 242 SINGLE FAMILY.
DO WE HAVE THAT MANY SINGLE FA OR IS THIS JUST AN ESTIMATE OR PROJECT? UH, THIS IS AN ESTIMATE PROJECTION.
IT WAS BASED ON OUR 2022 FAQS FOR HOUSING.
AND AT THE TIME THERE WAS A NUMBER OF 2,420, UM, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
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UH, SO I TOOK A 10% 10 OF THAT NUMBER, WHICH IS REALLY A SAFE NUMBER.UM, THERE'S, MOST OF THE TIME THERE'S MORE THAN 2% IN, IN A COMMUNITY.
UM, I'M LOOKING AT SHORT TERM RENTAL FEE.
AND HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE WE PROJECTING FOR THE SHORT TERM? SHORT TERM RENTAL IS NOT IN THIS EQUATION, SOLELY ONLY THE RENTAL REGISTRATIONS FOR SINGLE FAMILY, MULTI-FAMILY, HOTEL HOTELS.
AND CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THE SINGLE FAMILY, HOW WE GOT TO THAT PROJECTION? SURE.
SO IF YOU LIVE HERE TO PROJECT THE REVENUE, UH, AT THE FEE OF $115, UH, WE USED A 10% OF THE, UH, 24 20, WHICH IS OUR ESTIMATED, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES WITHIN THE TIME OF MEDICINE.
UH, AND I MULTIPLIED THAT TIME AS A FEE, WHICH GAVE US THAT 27,000 HUNDRED 30.
AND THEN THE SAME FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY AND, AND HOTEL MOTELS AT THOSE PROPOSED FEES.
AND, AND SO 242, THATS, YOU THINK THOSE ARE THE RENTALS? THE, UH, 2 42 IS AN GUESSTIMATED NUMBER OF HOW MANY RENTALS, SINGLE FAMILY RENTALS THAT MAY BE HERE.
THERE ARE THE OTHER TWO NUMBERS.
9,200 APARTMENTS AND 3,896 MONTHS.
SINGLE FAMILY IS THE ONLY NUMBER THAT I HAVE TO GUESSTIMATE.
THAT 242 NUMBER FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S A FLUID, UH, MARKET, SO IT COULD BE UP, IT COULD BE DOWN FROM TIME TO TIME.
SO, SO DO YOU THINK THE COST OF THE PROGRAM IS GONNA BE 400,000? UH, THAT'S THE PROJECTED REVENUE FROM THOSE FEES THAT PROPOSED? WELL, I SEE THAT'S THE REVENUE, BUT THE COST.
SO IS THAT THE COST BUILDING CODE AND THE P ALREADY? YES, ALL THOSE.
THAT IS OUR COST RECOVERY FOR OKAY.
WE NEED TO GET THAT MANY DOLLARS TO PAY FOR THAT.
OTHERWISE, WHERE'S THE MONEY COME FROM? I'LL, I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST CHECK IN QUICKLY.
SO YEAH, I MEAN, SO THAT'S, THAT IS ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO PUT OUT FOR COUNCIL AND AND CERTAINLY WANNA GET FEEDBACK ON, IS WE'RE PROPOSING THIS AS A HUNDRED PERCENT COST RECOVERY FEE, MEANING THAT IT WON'T BE SUBSIDIZED BY THE GENERAL FUND.
SO WE HAVE A COMPARISON OF FEES AND SOME OF THESE FEES IN, IN, IN YOUR BACKUP, WE CAN SEE OTHER, OUR COMPARATOR CITIES AND WHAT THEY CHARGE.
SOME OF OUR FEES ARE HIGHER, AND BECAUSE WE, WE'VE DECIDED THAT WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR CONSIDERATION THAT WE HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT COST RECOVERY, THAT WE DON'T JUST BASE IT ON WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE CHARGING.
SO OUR FEE IS BASED PURELY ON SAYING THE HOTEL, HOTELS AND MOTELS ARE GONNA PAY FOR THE ENTIRE COST OF THIS PROGRAM, AND IT WON'T BE SUBSIDIZED BY THE GENERAL FUND.
THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS, BUT THAT'S THE, THE WAY WE'VE LAID IT OUT FOR YOU.
WE'LL TAKE ADDITIONS TO STAFF.
ARE YOU PLANNING ON ADDITION TO STAFF? SO, SO THIS BUDGET IN THE, SO IN F FOR THE FY 24 BUDGET, WE ADDED THE POSITIONS THAT LESLIE, UM, ALLUDED TO EARLIER.
I DO THINK IT'S POSSIBLE, AND LESLIE OR KEVIN CAN SPEAK TO IT, THAT WE MAY NEED MORE POSITIONS IN THE FUTURE, ESPECIALLY IF WE WANT GET MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN THE PROGRAM THAT KEVIN LAID OUT.
BUT I'LL LET THEM SPEAK TO THE FUTURE.
BUT WE DID ADD THOSE POSITIONS ALREADY, WHICH IS PART OF THAT 413,000.
YEAH, I'LL QUICKLY ADDRESS THAT.
SO, UM, AS SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL, UM, MULTIFAMILY UNITS, UH, ENTITLED RIGHT NOW THAT WE'LL ANTICIPATE TO COME ONLINE AND, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE FROM THE NEXT TWO TO FIVE TO 10 YEARS.
AND SO WE'LL SEE THE REVENUE GROW, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, WE MAY SEE SOME OF OUR OLDER STOCK GO OFFLINE AS WELL.
SO IT, IT WILL FLUCTUATE TO A POINT.
UM, AT THIS TIME, WE DO THINK THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF TO HELP SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM.
UM, WE THINK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS AND, UM, BUILDING QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY IN DOING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ASPECT, WHICH IS A HUGE, UM, COMPONENT OF THIS PROGRAM AS WELL.
MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BUILDING STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR, UM, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT GROUPS.
AND, UM, SOME OF OUR APARTMENT COMPLEXES EVEN HAVE, HAS BEEN ENGAGEMENT COORDINATORS.
SO BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS TO MAKING, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, GETTING TO THE, TO THE RESIDENTS AND THEN HAVING THAT ENGAGEMENT COMPONENT ALSO SUPPORTS SOME OF OUR OTHER PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN AS WELL.
UM, SO HOW MANY ADDITIONS THE STAFF WOULD TAKE? I DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
THE, THE BUDGET AND WHAT THE REQUEST WAS FOR, AND, AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN ADDED AT THIS POINT, BUT LESLIE, YEAH, SO THIS WAS FOR THE, FOR LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.
UH, SO, UM, WE DIDN'T ADD OR PROPOSE ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2025, BUT WHAT WAS ADDED LAST YEAR WAS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, WHICH IS KEVIN'S POSITION, A CO COMPLIANCE MANAGER
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POSITION, UM, AND AN ADDITIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER POSITION.SO WE ALREADY HAD TWO CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER POSITIONS AT THAT TIME.
SO SOMEONE FROM THE TOWN WILL BE DOING THE, THE ACTUAL INSPECTIONS? YES.
AND THEN ANOTHER COMMENT I HAVE IS, UM, WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY, OUR PLAN IS TO DO ANNUAL INSPECTIONS.
IS THAT RIGHT? MY, MY THOUGHT.
'CAUSE I, I WORRY ABOUT THE, THE STRESS ON STAFF AND I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, SCHEDULING, ENTERING SOMEONE'S HOME, YOU KNOW, DOING THE INSPECTION, FOLLOWING UP.
WOULD IT MAKE SENSE IF ON SINGLE FAMILY WE SAID, YOU KNOW, IF IF THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, A, A MULTI-YEAR LEASE IN PLACE SINCE THE AT, SINCE THE TENANT CAN ACTUALLY CALL FOR AN INSPECTION THEMSELVES.
SO I'M THINKING IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT'S NOT BEING FIXED BY THE OWNER, THEN THEY CAN REACH OUT TO US.
BUT WOULD IT MAKE SENSE IF IT'S A THREE YEAR LEASE ON A SINGLE FAMILY HOME TO MAYBE ONLY DO THE INSPECTION WHEN THE LEASE TURNS JUST TO SOMEHOW REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF, UM, INSPECTIONS YOU GUYS NEED TO DO? YEAH, I THINK WE COULD DEFINITELY EXPLORE, UM, DOING INSTEAD OF DOING THE ANNUAL REGISTRATION, BUT THEN FOR THE INSPECTION PROGRAM, DOING IT UPON CHANGE OF, OF TENANT.
UM, SO THEN ESPECIALLY, 'CAUSE I WOULD HOPE AT THAT POINT THEY WOULD ENGAGE US IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM SO THAT WE COULD HELP THEM ADDRESS IT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER IF IT WASN'T BEING DONE VOLUNTARILY.
AND THEY CAN CALL FOR IT THEMSELVES.
AND IF, IF THERE'S A SERIOUS ISSUE, I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WAY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF CALLS YOU CAN DO APARTMENT COMPLEXES OR HOTELS.
I, I THINK WE NEED TO BE OUT THERE.
BUT THAT WAS JUST ONE THOUGHT THAT CAME TO MIND.
WOULD THIS BE, I'M SORRY, YOU'RE DONE.
SO WOULD THIS BE POTENTIALLY A COMPONENT OF THE FIXIT APP POTENTIALLY AS A NEW TAB THAT SOMEBODY AS A RENTER COULD LITERALLY ADD THAT IN THE FIXIT APP? YEP.
IS THE ANNUAL ANNUAL INSPECTION EVERY BILL INTO THE MODEL OF THESE NUMBERS FOR THE SINGLE FAMILIES ANNUAL INSPECTION? YES.
HOW, HOW IT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED IS AN ANNUAL INSPECTION.
I DON'T THINK WE UM, AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE, UM, IT WOULD BE EVIDENT JUST FOR US TO REMOVE THE ANNUAL REGISTRATION OF THE RENTAL BECAUSE WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE UPDATED INFORMATION YEAH.
THAT COULD SIMPLY BE A PA CHANGE OF, OF TENANT.
I WOULD RATHER BE ANNUAL STILL INSPECTION TOO.
I THINK IT PAYS TO KEEP AN EYE ON IT AS WELL.
I'D LIKE TO BE CONSISTENT TOO.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET STAFF, GET STAFF TO DO THIS.
SO THIS IS FUNDED CURRENTLY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND OR THE HOTEL FUND OR GENERAL? GENERAL TAX.
UM, SO GOING FORWARD, IF IT IS SELF-FUNDING, THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME MONEY BACK THAT'S FREE UP.
ALL THE NEW PHYSICIANS THAT LESLIE MENTIONED THAT WERE ADDED THIS YEAR, THEY WERE JUST ADDED TO THE GENERAL FUND.
SO AS WE GET THESE REVENUES TO START OFFSETTING IT, THAT WILL HOPEFULLY, I MEAN IT SHOULD RIGHT.
YEAH, I, UM, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS.
WHEN I WAS CAMPAIGNING TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, TALKING TO EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY NO MORE APARTMENTS AND NO MORE THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.
AND THE QUESTION IS WHY? AND THEY SAY CRIME AND TAX AND CRIME AND TRAFFIC.
AND THIS WAS, UH, EILEEN AND I, UH, STARTED THIS CONVERSATION ASKING, UM, AMID AT THAT TIME, UM, TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
AND SO I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THIS COME THROUGH AND I'LL MENTION IT AGAIN WHEN WE ACTUALLY TAKE SOME MORE ACTION ON THIS.
WHAT THOSE THINGS HAPPENING, ISSUES REGARDING PUBLIC SAFETY.
UM, PDS, OUR NUMBER THEY HAVE ACCESS TO, ANY INFORMATION WE HAVE IS, IS AVAILABLE FOR THEM.
SO WE'LL SOME OF THAT INFORMATION WE'LL BE GATHERING, UH, THE INFORMATION, THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, UH, DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT WHO THE TIES ARE, WHERE THEY ARE, THEIR ACTUAL PHONE NUMBERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WE CAN USE THAT IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM OF PROPERTY, WE CAN IN CONTACT WITH PRODUCT OWNERS IMMEDIATELY AND NOT JUST SENDING LETTERS.
AND I LIKE THE RELATIONSHIP BUILDING AND THE, THE SELF-GOVERNANCE AND KNOW JUST HELPING THE PROPERTY OWNERS IMPROVE THEIR OWN STOCK AS WELL INSTEAD OF IT JUST BE, YOU KNOW, UM, HAVING TO INSPECTION BASE.
I THINK IN A SENSE OF HAVING THE EE FEEL LIKE THEY'VE GOT A VOICE, ESPECIALLY THEY HAVE A NON-RESPONSIVE OWNER THAT'S JUST CHECKED OUT.
THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT ALONE IF THEY CAN CALL SOMEBODY WITHIN THE TOWN.
SO WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A PROGRAM, RIGHT? THIS IS GONNA BE THE PROGRAM? OR IS THERE A PROGRAM? THIS IS REPLACED, THIS IS THE PROGRAM.
SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CODE COMPLIANCE TEAM, UM, AND WE DO INSPECTIONS ON MULTI-FAMILY, UH, UPON COMPLAINT.
BUT THEY HAVE TO GRANT US PERMISSION TO ENTER THEIR PREMISE AND
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THEN WE RESOLVE JUST THEIR COMPLIANCE PROCESS.THIS REGISTRATION PROGRAM WOULD ESSENTIALLY REQUIRE OR ALLOW US TO DO REGULAR INSPECTIONS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE.
UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE CAN DO EXTERIOR INSPECTIONS AT ANY POINT AS LONG AS IT'S VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
SO HOW MANY APARTMENT COMPLEXES IS THE 9,200? DID WE KNOW THAT COMPLEX? I WOULD, I THINK I WOULD ESTIMATE IN THE 30 TO 40 RANGE.
AND THEN HOW MANY HOTELS IS IT LIKE 26? WE'RE AT 22.
SO I'M JUST DOING THE MATH IN MY HEAD.
THERE'S 242 HOMES AND IN, IN, IN A YEAR THERE'S LIKE 52 TIMES 50 WEEKS.
SO IT'S AT 260 DAYS, NOT COUNTING WEEKENDS.
BASICALLY WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS WE COULD INSPECT A HOME A DAY, RIGHT? I MEAN THERE'S LESS, OH, WE COULD EXPECT MULTIPLE, YEAH.
SO, SO WE ONLY HAVE, WHAT'D YOU SAY, 30 OR 40 APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA DO MORE THAN ONE UNIT, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO ALL OF 'EM, CORRECT? RIGHT.
WE'RE PROPOSING 5% OF THE UNIT COUNTS.
SO IF THERE WAS UH, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED UNITS IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, WE WOULD DO FIVE.
AND THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO MORE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE GO THROUGH AND DO THE 5% AND THEY HAVE SAY FAILED MISERABLY, THEN WE CAN, THAT MAY WARRANT ADDITIONAL INSPECTIONS.
YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE FINE, WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS, IS NOT IN GOOD CONDITION.
PROBLEM ISN'T BAD CONDITION DO WITH TOTAL EXTENSIVE.
SO SOME ARE GONNA BE BAD AND NEED MORE WORK.
SOME WILL CHECK OUT AND YOU WANT US TO DO ANYMORE.
BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS IF IT'S ONE A DAY OR YOU JUST SAID YOU CAN DO TWO OR THREE, WHY DO WE NEED THREE MORE PEOPLE? THAT'S WHERE I'M HEADING.
SO I'M WONDERING WHAT, WHAT THE WORST LOAD IS.
IF ANYTHING, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA NEED MORE PEOPLE.
UM, 'CAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THAT NUMBER, 9,200 MULTI MULTIFAMILY UNITS, WE'RE GONNA DO 5% OF THAT.
THAT'S QUITE, QUITE A BIG NUMBER.
SO THAT'S MAYBE TWO A DAY, BUT THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST MULTIFAMILY.
AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING YOUR HOTEL MOTELS WITH SINGLE FAMILY AND THEN THEIR, THEIR CURRENT JOB OF COMPLAINTS FROM DAS ABOUT HIGH WES OR GRASS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
SO THEY HAVE A, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE PLENTY TO DO.
THEY COVER ALL THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENTS AND AS, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT PROPOSING MORE.
THEY ALREADY STAFF, WELL WE ADDED THREE BECAUSE OF THIS PROGRAM.
THAT'S, I JUST WANTED TO JUSTIFY THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE BUSY.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T THINK IT LOOKED LIKE IT'S GONNA TAKE THREE PEOPLE TO DO THAT.
THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT IS THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THEIR NORMAL CODE ENFORCEMENT DUTIES.
SO WE ALREADY DO CODE ENFORCEMENT ON ALL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
THIS WILL BE IN ADDITION TO JUST THE NORMAL CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT WE DO ON AN EVERYDAY BASIS.
SO THE THREE PEOPLE, I KNOW YOU'RE ONE OF THE THREE, BUT THE THREE PEOPLE DON'T JUST DO THIS THEN THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING.
IF YOU GO DOWN, I THINK IT'S THE, I NEED TO DO A RIDE ALONG DOWN ONE MORE.
SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT ORG CHART.
SO, UM, RIGHT HERE, SO, UH, KEVIN IS HERE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES SIDE OF THINGS.
WE HAVE OUR CODE COMPLIANCE MANAGER AND WE HAVE THREE, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, OFFICERS THAT ARE OUT IN THE FIELD EVERY DAY.
UM, SO OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ORG CHART, KEVIN DOES A LOT MORE THAN JUST THIS PROGRAM.
SO HE OVERSEES ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AS WELL AS, UH, WE'LL HAVE ANIMAL SERVICES COME INTO THE DIVISION IN, UH, OCTOBER 1ST.
THAT'S THE, THE PLAN RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, HE'S OVERSEEING THE PROGRAM AND THEN WE HAVE A MANAGER OVERSEEING SPECIFICALLY CODE COMPLIANCE, WHICH ONCE AGAIN HANDLES ALL CODE COMPLIANCE IN THE TOWN.
AND WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING THE ADDITION OF THIS PROGRAM.
SO WILL ALL THREE BERTO MARQUEE AND THE VACANT, WILL THEY ALL BE DOING THESE INSPECTIONS? OR ONE OF THOSE IS CHARGED WITH ALL THE INSPECTION? ALL THREE OF THEM WILL BE DOING ALL INSPECTIONS ESSENTIALLY.
SO YOU HAVE 5% OF THE 9,200 IS FOUR 60, IS THAT RIGHT? 5%, 9,000 IS ALL OF THEM.
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WOULD BE NINE 20.AFTER OF THAT IT'S FOUR 60 AND THE OTHER ONE WAS 30 SOMETHING.
SO THE IMPORTANT THING TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT'S IF WE'RE DOING ALL THE INSPECTIONS ONE TIME, BUT REALISTICALLY, UH, I'M GONNA SAY A LOT OF OUR STOCK, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT BOTH OUR HOTEL AND MULTI-FAMILY IS OLDER.
SO IT'S UNLIKELY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BLOW THROUGH THE 500 ODD MULTI-FAMILY INSPECTIONS AND THEY'RE ALL GONNA PASS IN THE FIRST ROUND.
SO THEN WE HAVE TO, ONCE WE DO, THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK AGAIN AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE COMPLIANCE.
AND IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE, THERE COULD BE AN INSTANCE WHERE WE'RE VISITING, WE'RE REINSPECTING FIVE TIMES FOR ITS NEEDS COMPLIANCE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING THAT REINSPECTION FEE.
UH, FIRST 75 FOR THE FIRST REINSPECTION 1 25 FOR THE SECOND.
AND THAT, AND THIS PROJECTION REVENUE RIGHT HERE DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY REINSPECTION BECAUSE THAT'S, AT THIS POINT IT'S COMPLETELY UNKNOWN.
I CAN JUST, I'LL JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE WORKLOAD FOR THE GROUP.
I THINK IF ANYTHING, WE MAY BE BACK NEXT YEAR SAYING WE NEED MORE CODE FOLKS OVERALL.
'CAUSE AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MANY TIMES OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO, WE'VE ALSO BEEN BECOME MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT IN RESIDENTIAL AND WITH OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
AND IT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE IN THE FIRST YEAR OR TWO OF THIS PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE MORE WORKLOAD THAN WE'RE EVEN ANTICIPATING.
SO I THINK THERE'S NO DOUBT THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF WORK.
THERE LIKELY WILL BE EVEN MORE NECESSARY.
AND SO IF WE DO NEED TO HIRE MORE, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
WE CAN DISCUSS NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
I WILL SAY ALSO THIS AS THIS REVENUE COMES IN TO, TO DARREN'S POINT, IF IT'S MID-YEAR AND WE'RE SEEING THAT WE NEED, WE HAVE A, A STRAIN AND THE REVENUE'S COMING IN, WE COULD COME BACK WITH A MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT IF THAT'S SOMETHING MS. NEEDED.
WHERE DOES THE 5%, UH, HOW IS IT DETERMINED? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE SEEN USED IN OTHER AREAS? YES.
AND ALSO TO HANDLE THAT WORKLOAD, UM, 5%.
AS CITIES HAVE GROWN, THE NUMBERS OF UM, MULTIFAMILY UNITS HAVE GROWN.
UH, AND IT'S JUST, UNLESS YOU HAVE A HUGE CODE DEPARTMENT, IT'S ALMOST FEASIBLE.
BUT YOU STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO WHATEVER YOU SEE THAT YOU NEED TO.
AND WHEN THEY GO ON SITE, THE OFFICERS WILL PICK WHICH UNITS THEY'RE GONNA BE INSPECTING.
WE'RE NOT GONNA ALLOW THE PROPERTY MANAGERS TO GUIDE US IN THAT DIRECTION.
THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHICH ONES THEY HAVE.
MAKE SURE THEIR PROPERTY IS TO TOP SHADE, UH, ON.
YEAH, IT'S A, IT'S A MINIMUM OF 5%.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO RENT THEIR HOUSE OUT AND THEY DON'T REGISTER, HOW DO YOU FIND THEM? HOW DO YOU CATCH THIS BY SOMEONE'S ADVERTISING TO RENT A PLACE? YOU NEIGHBOR TELEPHONE? UH, YOU THINK ALL, ALL INFORMATION FROM SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, LIKE I SAID, COMPLAINTS, UH, YOU NAME IT.
UM, AND WHAT WE DO IS WE COMPILE THAT LIST AT THE TIME.
I THINK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON MENTIONED EARLIER IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COMPARE, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTS TO SEES OTHER WAYS.
AND THERE'S OTHER WAYS, I'M SORRY, THERE'S OTHER WAYS OF FINDING THIS, BUT I'LL NOT STAY.
AND THE, THE APARTMENTS AND THE HOTELS, THEY WOULD, IT'D BE REQUIRED.
THEY DON'T HAVE A SAY IN THIS.
THAT'S IF WE PASS THIS, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER EXPENSE THEY HAVE.
SO ARE THE, UM, REGISTRATIONS ARE, ARE THEY, UM, MAINTAINED IN, IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, IN MENT SERVICES? RIGHT.
AND THEN WHO, WHO, WHO MIGHT HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE? ARE THEY SUBJECT TO OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS? YES.
SOME INFORMATION FROM ARE REDACTED.
THERE, THERE ARE MIN MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS TO REDACT PERSONAL INFORMATION.
I JUST HAVE A QUICK COMMENTS HERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IN MY OWN PERSONAL LIFE, I, I FEEL LIKE I GET FEED TO DEATH A LOT.
AND I, I JUST WANNA MAKE THE COMMENT THAT I, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS.
I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF GOOD COMES OUT OF IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE GOT, IF, IF I'M A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPER NOW AND I'M COMING INTO THE TOWN TO DEVELOP SOMETHING, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE COST TO REMOVE WHATEVER'S THERE, THEN THERE'S THE PARKLAND FEE, AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE THE PER UNIT FEE.
UH, I JUST HOPE WE GIVE SOME CONSIDERATION THAT IN THE FUTURE THAT WE DON'T GET KNOWN AS THIS TOWN THAT JUST FEEDS PEOPLE TO DEATH.
AND THEN ON THAT COMMENT, $40 FOR THE, THE HOTEL MOTEL.
I MEAN, I, I LOVE THE IDEA THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO RECOUP ALL THOSE COSTS.
YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE WE'RE BEING TOLD HERE IS $12 AND 40 CENTS AND WE'RE GONNA CHARGE 40.
I JUST, I WONDER WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE ON TOP OF THE ADDITIONAL, IS IT 2%
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THAT WE'RE CHARGING FOR THE NEW HOTEL TAX? UM, I, UM, I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION.UH, THE ONE COMMENT I'LL MAKE, UM, IN RESPONSE TO THAT IS WE DID TALK TO A COUPLE OF, OF PROPERTY MANAGEMENT GROUPS 'CAUSE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, CURIOUS AND THE RESPONSE OF SOME OF THEM WERE GREAT, THIS WILL HELP MY ADJACENT PROPERTIES MAY MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTY BETTER.
UM, 'CAUSE THEY'RE A LOT OF TIMES CALLING IN THE COMPLAINTS OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THEIR LANDSCAPING NOT BEING PROPERLY MAINTAINED OR THEIR DUMPSTER OVERFLOWING AND THEY'RE LIKE, THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO CLEAN UP THEIR PROPERTY INSTEAD OF ME USING THE FIX IT APP OR, OR CONTRACTING COMPLIANCE.
SO, UM, I WOULD SAY THAT SOME OF OUR, UM, MORE, UM, WELL MAINTAINED, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF A PROGRAM THAT REQUIRES THE HIGH STANDARD AND THE $40.
LIKE WHAT, WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? IF WE, IF WE LOOKED AND SAW THAT THE AVERAGE WAS $12, WHERE DID THE $40 COME FROM? THAT ULTIMATELY CAME FROM LOOKING AT WHAT DOES OUR, UM, OUR COST RECOVERY AND HOW CAN WE GET TO OR, OR ADD THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT COST RECOVERY? BECAUSE, UM, AS, AS DAVID MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT, PUT THE ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON OUR SINGLE FAMILY, UM, YOU KNOW, OWNER OCCUPIED RESIDENTS TO HAVE TO, TO ESSENTIALLY SUBSIDIZE THIS PROGRAM TO MAINTAIN THE QUALITY OF, OF THE HOTEL MOTEL STOCK.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST, WHENEVER YOU'RE SETTING FEES, THERE'S TWO WAYS, TWO WAYS TO START THE CONVERSATION.
ONE IS TO LOOK AT YOUR COMPETITORS AND TRY TO SAY, WE'RE GONNA BE, TRY TO BE AS EQUITABLE WITH OUR COMPARATOR CITIES.
THE OTHER WAY IS TO GO THROUGH THE COST RECOVERY ROUTE.
AND THEN THIS ONE WILL GO THE COST RECOVERY ROUTE TO SEE, SAY A HUNDRED PERCENT.
THIS IS A, A GOOD POLICY CONVERSATION.
I MEAN, YOUR, YOUR POINTS ARE VALID.
WE ALWAYS NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT.
UM, THE COST IS GONNA BE BORNE BY SOMEONE.
SO IT'S A GREAT POLICY CONVERSATION TO HAVE.
IF WE WANT SAY THAT SHOULD BE LOWER AND CLOSER, THAT'S FINE.
WE JUST NEED TO POINT MY, OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT KNOWING THAT THAT COST IS GONNA BE BORN OTHER PLACES IN THE GENERAL FUND.
SO I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT CONVERSATION.
I UNDERSTAND THE POINT, ESPECIALLY ON THE HILLS OF US HAVING THE PARKLAND CONVERSATION.
UM, SO I'D SAY IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT DISCUSSION TO HAVE.
THE RATIONALE FOR IT IS JUST WHAT SAID, AND IT WAS REALLY BACKED INTO, SO AS OPPOSED TO SAYING, HERE'S WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS CHARGING HERE, WHAT WE WANNA CHARGE, WE BACKED INTO IT THIS COST ALLOCATION.
ANYTIME YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT MEANS YOU UPDATE THAT FREQUENTLY.
YOU UPDATE THE COST ALLOCATION SO THAT YOU'RE CHARGING APPROPRIATELY AND GOING BACKWARD.
BUT IF WE WALKED OUT HERE AND SAID WE WANT IT TO BE 70% OR 80%, THOSE ARE ALL GOOD CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE.
UM, BUT THAT WAS THE TOP PROCESS.
SO, SO OTHER THAN OUR, OUR VERY LARGE HOTELS, I'M JUST TRYING TO CALCULATE, UH, HOW, HOW MANY ROOMS ARE IN A TYPICAL HOTEL AFTER YOU TAKE OUT THE TOP, TOP TWO OR THREE? THAT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED, RIGHT? YEAH, ONE 50.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $6,000 A YEAR FOR A HOTEL THAT'S GOT ABOUT 150 ROOMS. YEAH.
SO CHRIS, I'M THINK THAT'S A, A VALID POINT.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I, I LOOKED AT THAT AND I THOUGHT THAT'S, I I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF HIGH AT $40.
UM, AND FOR ME, I, I DON'T MIND, YEAH, THERE'S A GOOD POLICYING DISCUSSION.
I DON'T MIND NOT HAVING A HUNDRED PERCENT COST RECOVERY.
AND SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WANNA BE WITH THAT.
SO, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT, I WANT, I WANNA DO SOMETHING THAT'S REASONABLE.
I REALLY LOVE THE PROGRAM AND I LOVE THAT WE'RE DOING IT.
UM, BUT WE, WE DO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE'RE NOT, UH, DON'T, DON'T DEVELOP THAT REPUTATION IN THE COMMUNITY.
NO, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UM, UH, KEVIN DID TALK TO CARROLLTON SPECIFICALLY, UM, AND THEY HAVEN'T UPDATED THEIR FEES IN, IN MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY ASKING US TO PROVIDE THEM THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GATHERING BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THE FEES.
WE WILL LIKELY SEE THAT INCREASE.
AND THE OTHER FEE THAT'S MENTIONED ON THE COST COMPARISON IS PLANO, WHICH, UH, I BELIEVE IS A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING TO COMPARE IT TO ADDISON BECAUSE THEIR HOTEL'S TALKING A LOT NEWER THAN OURS.
AND SO IT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE, BUT I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE ADDISON'S UNIQUE.
IT'S HARD TO COMPARE US TO SOME OF OUR COMPARATOR CITIES WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE VERY SPECIFIC ASPECTS OF THIS PROGRAM.
AND WE'RE NOT ONE OF THE HIGHEST YEAH, I'M SORRY.
WE'RE NOT ONE OF THE HIGHEST OUT THERE.
ALL INSURANCE OVER $83 PER, UM, HOTEL MOTEL.
AND SO LESLIE, I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
SO IF THIS IS AN ANTICIPATED COST RECOVERY OF A HUNDRED PERCENT, WE HAVE FIVE PEOPLE.
UM, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT FIVE PEOPLE JUST DOING NOTHING BUT THIS? NO.
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WE LOOKED AT, WE KIND OF, WE BROKE IT DOWN AND, AND WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THE BREAKDOWN, BUT WE LOOKED AT WHAT IS OUR VEHICLES COST, WHAT IS THE, UH, YEARLY MAINTENANCE COST, WHAT ARE THE OTHER COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE EMPLOYEES? AND THEN WE TOOK, I BELIEVE WE USED, UH, SIX 70% OF THEIR TIME, OF THOSE THREE INDIVIDUALS DEDICATED THIS PROGRAM, EXCUSE ME, THOSE FIVE INDIVIDUALS DEDICATED THIS PROGRAM.SO I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY.
YOU'RE ALSO CALCULATING THE OTHER WORK THAT THEY DO OUTSIDE OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES NO.
INTO THAT 100% OR YOU'RE NOT NO, WE ARE NOT.
SO WE, WE CALCULATED ESSENTIALLY THE, THE ENTIRE COST OF THAT, THAT FTE, WHAT IS IT COSTING THE TOWN FROM A RESOURCE PERSPECTIVE.
AND THEN WE TOOK A PERCENTAGE OF THAT.
SO, SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, KEVIN IS OVERSEEING THE AS OR AS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, HE'S NOT SPENDING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF HIS TIME ON THIS PROGRAM.
SO WE TOOK A PERCENTAGE OF HIS, OF HIS, UM, UH, RESOURCES FOR HIS POSITION.
UH, AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THAT, THAT NUMBER.
SO WE TOOK PERCENTAGES OF THE, OF THE VARIOUS POSITIONS BASED UPON THE TIME THAT WE ANTICIPATED THEY WOULD SPEND ON THIS PROGRAM.
DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT, WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE WAS OR CLOSE TO WHATEVER THAT PERCENTAGE WAS? CORRECT.
SO I KNOW FOR THE, UH, CODE OFFICERS, THE THREE CODE OFFICERS, WE USE 70% OF THEM AT THIS TIME DEDICATED TO THIS PROGRAM.
AND THE OTHER 30%, UH, DEDICATED TO THE OTHER COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES.
OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THAT WILL EVOLVE AS, ONCE AGAIN, I THINK THIS FIRST COUPLE YEARS OF THE PROGRAM WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING AS WE BRING EVERYONE UP TO A STANDARD.
I COULDN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT WE CALCULATED FOR, FOR THE, THE MANAGER AND THE NO, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S PERFECT.
UM, SO BACK TO CHRIS'S POINT, IF I'M LOOKING THROUGH THIS, AND KEVIN, YOU DID, YOU LOAD LES YOU LOADED THIS INFORMATION FOR COMPARATOR CITIES, BUT I'M SEEING A NOT A LOT OF NOT AVAILABLE.
SO IT'S SORT OF AN UNFAIR NUMBER I THEM, BUT THEY HAD ON CHART.
IS IT NOT AVAILABLE OR NOT APPLICABLE? UM, IT IS NOT AVAILABLE.
OR EXCUSE ME, NOT A COMPREHENSIVE, UH, REALTOR REGISTRATION PROGRAM.
LIKE WE, LIKE WE'RE PROPOSING OR THEY'RE NOT, ARE THEY NOT SHARING IT? THEY HAVE ONE.
THE ONLY, THEY HAVE PROGRAM BUT NOT A, UH, A ROAD PROGRAM FOR MULTIFAMILY AND HOTELS.
WE'RE WE'RE NOT CHARGING ENOUGH.
'CAUSE THE AVERAGE IS TWO 60, BUT THEN YOU, YOU FLIP OVER AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT CHRIS IS TALKING ABOUT AT 1240.
SO WHERE DO YOU FIND THE MEDIUM BALANCE? ARE WE, ARE WE WEAK ON, ARE WE GONNA BE SOFT ON SHORT TERM RENTAL? BUT YOU GET AGGRESSIVE ON MULTI FEE.
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SHORT TERM, SO RIGHT.
IF WE RAISED IT, IT WON'T HELP.
I THINK THAT'S WHY A LOT OF THOSE OTHER COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE, UH, A LOT OF HOTEL MOTEL OR LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS.
AND THEY SUPPORT THAT INDUSTRY THROUGH AIRBNBS.
WHEREAS ADDISON IS, IS ALMOST THE OPPOSITE.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE ADDED CONDITION THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING STOCK.
THAT'S WHY IT'S SO HARD TO COMPARE USING THESE COMPARISONS.
'CAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT, UH, MADE UP LIKE WE ARE.
SO THE AVERAGE AT THE BOTTOM THERE MM-HMM.
THAT'S JUST FOR THE ONES THAT HAVE A PROGRAM, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT RIGHT.
IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE AVERAGE OF THOSE THAT DON'T.
AND KEVIN, DID YOU SAY ARLINGTON HAS A, HAS A HOTEL FEE OF $80? IT'S $83 AND 76 CENTS.
SO THERE'S SOME OUTSIDE OF, OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE THAT YES, SIR.
SO AGAIN, I I I TRUST YOU ALL TO DO YOUR, YOUR HOMEWORK THAT, UH, THAT WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS, IS REASONABLE AND IT'S NOT GONNA PUT US IN A BAD SPOT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT OUR PLACE TO, TO SECOND GUESS THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO.
'CAUSE Y'ALL ARE THE PROFESSIONALS.
SO, UM, IF, IF YOU ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH 40, THEN I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT TOO.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO GET, JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CAREFUL ABOUT, UH, THE POSITION WE'RE PUTTING OURSELVES IN REPUTATIONALLY, MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT, UH, CAUSING MORE, MORE HARM THAN, THAN WE MIGHT THINK.
SO, UM, HAVE YOU TALKED TO ANY OF THE HOTEL YEARS TO SEE, GET FEEDBACK FROM THEM ON, ON, ON THIS KIND OF FEE? I DO NOT BELIEVE WE'VE ENGAGED WITH ANY, BUT WE WILL HAPPY BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
I THINK WE REALLY WANTED TO BRING THIS BEFORE COUNCIL AND GET SOME PRELIMINARY FEEDBACK AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND, AND, AND TWEAK SOME THINGS BEFORE WE IN THE FUTURE BRING IT BACK FOR ADOPTION.
SO WE WILL DEFINITELY ENGAGE WITH, WITH SOME OF OUR LOCAL HOTEL MOTELS.
AND I, AND I KNOW YOU ALL ARE GONNA HAVE A PROCESS TO DETERMINE WHO THOSE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, NON-OWNER OCCUPANTS ARE.
AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS TO DO THAT.
JUST SOMETHING ELSE TO KEEP IN MIND TOO IS THE CHURN OF PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
IF SOMEBODY SELLS THEIR OWNER OCCUPIED AND IT'S AN INVESTOR THAT WILL, I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR, FOR TAGGING THOSE AS WELL AND GETTING THEM INTO THIS PROGRAM.
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ABSOLUTELY.AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD REGARDING, IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T COMPLY, IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY DON'T PAY THE FEE OR IF THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO, YOU GET, DO AN INSPECTION AND THEY DON'T COMPLY WITH WHAT'S REQUIRED AND THEY GET, YOU KNOW, A FINE, THEY GET A CITATION, THEY'RE TOLD TO GO TO COURT AND THEY DON'T DO ANY OF IT.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS THEN? SO WE CAN, WE CAN ESCALATE AS, AS FAR AS WE'RE ABLE.
SO IT COULD POTENTIALLY GO AS FAR AS REVOKING A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING EVERYONE ESSENTIALLY EVICTING THE PROPERTY.
THAT WOULD BE A VERY SERIOUS SCENARIO, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S STRUCTURAL DAMAGE THAT IT'S UNSAFE TO INHABIT.
UM, BUT I THINK THERE'S OTHER, AT A CERTAIN POINT WE KIND OF, UH, OR AFTER, AT A CERTAIN POINT WE HAVE CITATIONS AND IT GOES TO COURT AND IT'S UP TO THE JUDGE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, SO IT, IT COULD BE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON, DEPENDING ON WHO THE JUDGE IS.
I HAVE NOT HAD THAT PROBLEM AFTER WRITING A CITATION.
SINCE THE ISSUE SEEMED, I MEAN, SEEMED TO BE FOCUSED ON HOTELS MORE THAN THE OTHER TWO, BUT WE'RE WRITING SURROUNDING BY DALLAS.
SO DALLAS HAS A LOT OF HOTELS.
DOES DALLAS HAVE A PROGRAM? AND MAYBE WE SHOULD GET THEIR NUMBERS 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF DALLAS, YOU KNOW, SO WHERE THESE OTHER LITTLE CITIES, I LOOK AT 'EM WITH ALL THE NAS AND I'M LIKE, WELL HEY, THEY'RE WANT A HOTEL.
WE'LL DEFINITELY HOLD, UM, WHEN WE COME BACK WE'LL PULL SOME ADDITIONAL COMPARISONS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE TYPICAL COMPARATOR CITIES, BUT THAT HAVE THAT PROGRAM.
UH, 'CAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT.
A LOT OF OUR IDENTIFIED COMPARED TO CITIES DON'T, DON'T HAVE THIS PROGRAM AS IT RELATES TO, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOUR RESULTS ARE OF THAT, THOSE OTHER COMPETITORS.
YES, BUT I'M NOT IN, UH, OPPOSED TO HAVING THESE FEES, UH, AS HIGH AS THEY ARE, IT'S COST TO DO BUSINESS.
IT'S GONNA RAISE THE QUALITY, IT'S GONNA RAISE THE RENTABILITY, IT'S GONNA RAISE THE STOCK, IT'S GONNA RISE THE TIDE FOR EVERYBODY.
SO I THINK IT'S REALLY, UH, YOUR COMMENT ON ONE, UH, TELLIER VOTES VERSUS ANOTHER ONE AND THEIR PROPERTY'S NOT UP TO SPEND.
IT'S, IT'S GONNA JUST MAKE IT, UH, BETTER FOR EVERYBODY.
I THINK THAT'S THE EXPECTATION DAVE FOR MAYORS IS ARE WE LOOKING TO JUST KEEP THE STATUS QUO AND KEEP IT MEDIOCRE OR WE LOOKING TO LITERALLY PRESS AND RAISE THE BAR, RAISE THE VALUE OF THOSE PROPERTIES TOO.
INEVITABLY I WOULD RAISE THE VALUE.
YEAH, I DON'T, I'D RATHER GO UP THAN DOWN OR STAY FLAT.
AND UH, JUST BRIEFLY WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH SOME ADDIT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, IF YOU WOULD, UM, ALSO WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AGAIN AT THE COST OF THE DEPARTMENT AND UM, THOSE COSTS AND GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A, A BRIEF ON, ON THAT BILL OF COURSE AND PROJECTIONS FOR THAT AS YOU MIGHT SEE IT GOING FORWARD.
ANYTHING ELSE? LESLIE? KEVIN, THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
[b. Discussion of the Fiscal Year 2025 Budget.]
UH, ITEM SIX B, DISCUSSION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET.STEVE, AS A REMINDER, WE ARE MOVING QUICKLY THROUGH THESE ITEMS. EVERYBODY.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL STEVEN CLINTON, THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
MINE IS VERY SHORT PRESENTATION, HOWEVER, UH, COUNCIL WISHES TO EXPAND UPON THAT
SO, BUT UM, WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING UP ON, YOU KNOW, WE HAD OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS, UM, HAD THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
THERE WASN'T A LOT OF, UM, CHANGES THAT CAME FROM THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.
SO I'VE GOT THE ONE, UH, CHANGE HERE.
UH, ONE THING THAT HAPPENED AFTER OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP, BUT WE HAD METRO PRESS SERVICES CAME AND DID THEIR, UH, NON-PROFIT PRESENTATION.
UM, SO THE PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDES FUNDING OF $139,643.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE RECEIVED, UH, IN THE PREVIOUS OR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE PROPOSED BUDGETS.
UH, THEY DID REQUEST $162,701.
THAT'S A DIFFERENCE OF, UH, $23,068, WHICH IS FOR HOMELESS, UH, OUTREACH AND DIVERSION SERVICES.
SO REALLY THE, THE ONLY DECISION POINT THAT WE HAVE IS DOES COUNCIL WANT TO FUND THAT PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO KEEP THE FUNDING LEVEL THE SAME OR CHANGE THAT FUNDING LEVEL FROM I AM DEFINITELY FOR, UM, INCREASING IT BY THE 20 3068.
I THINK THE UM, DIVERSION SERVICES PROCESS THAT, THAT THEY ARE GROWING AT THIS POINT
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IS AN EX OUTSTANDING.UM, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US, UM, HELP US OUT.
UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT WE HAD, WHICH CAME FROM THE BUDGET WORKSHOP WAS COUNCIL, UM, GAVE DIRECTION TO REMOVE THE, UH, THE BLUE DOT OR THE EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEE MEAL VOUCHER PROGRAM FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND.
SO THAT WAS $200,000, UH, WHICH WAS REMOVED FROM THAT FUND.
AND THIS IS WHAT THEIR FUND SUMMARY IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND LOOKS LIKE.
SO WE JUST REDUCED THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, $200,000.
UM, EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME WITHIN THAT FUND.
I'LL JUST MAKE ONE NOTE ON THAT.
AS WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE POSSIBLY OCTOBER TIMEFRAME, WE'LL COME BACK WITH A WORK SESSION TO TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN TOTAL ALL THE TOOLS INVOLVED WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT AS WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, THAT COULD CERTAINLY BE AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE WANTED TO REVISIT THIS PROGRAM.
THIS WOULD COME FROM FUND BALANCE REGARDLESS.
SO IT WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE TO DO A, A MID-YEAR TRANSFER, A MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT TO FUND THAT.
SO THERE'S REALLY NO ISSUE WITH HAVING THAT CONVERSATION LATER ON IN A FEW MONTHS.
WELL, MY QUESTION IS WHERE IS THIS $200,000 GOING? ARE WE, WE'RE JUST NOT, IT'S JUST THE FUND BALANCE.
THIS IS, SO IT BASICALLY JUST FALLS INTO THE FUND BALANCE IS PROJECTED NOW TO BE HIGHER AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR THAN IT THAN HAD WE EXPENDED 200,000 IT WAS THE HOTELS.
SO, BUT THAT 200,000 COULD BE USED IF, IF WE WANTED TO MARKET IN OTHER WAYS, UH, YOU KNOW, BROKER LUNCHES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT THAT'S WHERE I THINK YEAH, THE PRESENTATION IN OCTOBER WOULD BE VERY VALUABLE BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO KNOW JUST DO WE NEED TO THROW THAT $200,000 IN THE BUDGET FOR MARKETING SOMEHOW? ABSOLUTELY.
AND THAT, THAT, THAT'S THE EXACT, THAT'S THE EXACT INTENT OF THE PRESENTATION IS TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE FUND AND, AND WHAT THE BEST USE.
ANYTHING ELSE? I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE BLUE DOT ALREADY, BUT I DON'T, I THINK THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE, OF THE RECORD.
I THINK THAT SHOULD SALE LAST SAY, WELL WHAT I LIKED ABOUT IT WAS THAT, UM, THERE REALLY WASN'T A DOLLAR SPENT UNTIL YOU GOT THE INFORMATION AND YOU GOT SOME RESULTS.
YOU, YOU MADE A, A TOUCH ON A PERSON AND UM, SO YOU REALLY DIDN'T SPEND THE MONEY UNTIL YOU WERE REWARDED WITH WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR.
BUT, UM, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF HAVING A, A A, A LARGE REVIEW, A LARGER REVIEW IN IN OCTOBER.
I'M FINE GOING THAT ROUTE AS WELL.
I THINK WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION A DIFFERENT WAY.
I'D LOVE TO, UH, REVISIT THE HOLIDAYS IF WE COULD.
I ASKED FOR A, A SLIDE EARLIER, I DUNNO IF YOU GOT THAT, BUT I'D LOVE TO YEAH.
THE FIRST, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EMPLOYEE HOLIDAYS, UH, CORRECT.
SO LAST, SO AT THE LAST BUDGET WORKSHOP WE HAD DIRECTION TO KEEP IT IN.
SO THE EMPLOYEE HOLIDAYS ARE, ARE KEPT IN, BUT WE DID DO A SURVEY AT A REQUEST.
SO WE HAD THAT READY TO PULL UP.
AND YOU SAID THAT THAT, HAS THAT BEEN SHARED WITH EVERYBODY VIA EMAIL SOMEHOW? YES, IT WAS IN A FOLDER THAT WE SENT OUT WITH ALL THE INFORMATION LAST WEEK.
SO CAN WE COMMENT ON THIS OR WHAT'S THAT? CAN WE COMMENT ON THIS OR? OF COURSE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION.
WE, IN THE BUDGET PROPOSAL, UH, WE, WE WERE DISCUSSING ADDING TWO MORE HOLIDAYS, ONE FOR JUNETEENTH AND THE OTHER ONE FOR VETERANS DAY.
THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT DOING IT OR NOT DOING IT AND ONE OR THE OTHER.
HEY HOWARD, COULD YOU TURN AND DIRECT YOUR I'M COUNCIL PLEASE.
HEAR VERY WELL I'M TALKING TO HIM.
YEAH, SO, SO I CAME UP WITH AN IDEA THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE POPULAR, BUT I'M GONNA SUGGEST IT ANYWAY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT CHART, WE ARE THE ONLY CITY THAT THAT USES A BIRTHDAY AS A HOLIDAY.
AND SO IF WE ADD THE TWO HOLIDAYS, WE'RE GETTING A GAIN OF TWO HOLIDAY PAYS.
IF WE ADD THE TWO HOLIDAYS AND REMOVE THE BIRTHDAY, IT'S STILL A PLUS ONE.
UM, I THINK THAT WE HAVE SOME OTHER ISSUES GOING ON WITH PAYROLL THAT THE 4% INCREASE WE HAVE, I'M LEARNING NOW ABOUT THE PAYROLL.
WE HAVE A REALLY, UM, I THINK A A, WELL THE, THE RETIREMENT PROGRAM IS EXPENSIVE, BUT UM, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO DAVID ABOUT IT.
WE PAY 16.68% FOR RETIREMENT WHEN OTHER PAYROLLS PAY 7.4, 7.65 FOR SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.
SO THIS, THIS IS, IT'S HIGHER HERE.
WE'RE RAISING BY GOING UP TO HOLIDAYS AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE TWO HOLIDAYS.
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I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF 'EM.I'M JUST THINKING THE BIRTHDAY HOLIDAY IS NOT NECESSARY AND I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IN THE TWO HOLIDAYS, TAKE OUT THE BIRTHDAY HOLIDAY.
AND THEN WE DID DISCUSS THE, UH, BENEFIT FOR THE, THE TOWN EMPLOYEES, FAMILIES BEING ABLE TO USE THE ATHLETIC LOVE.
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY TO, TO REWARD THE EMPLOYEES MIGHT EVEN BE MORE VALUABLE THAN GETTING PAID FOR THEIR BIRTHDAY.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE BIRTHDAY BACK AND ADD THE TWO NEW HOLIDAYS.
JUST THROW IT OUT FOR DISCUSSION HOW EVERYBODY FEELS ABOUT THAT.
I WAS ON COUNCIL A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE ADDED MLK DAY AND, AND BASICALLY I KINDA HAD A SIMILAR, SIMILAR THOUGHT TO WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SHARING NOW.
UM, I, I AGREE WITH WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO THE, WELL, WE'RE NOT LIVING AWAY CONVERSATION TOO.
WE'RE ADDING ONE INSTEAD OF ADDING TO.
AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE BOARD AND NOT SEEING ANYBODY CELEBRATE VETERANS DAY, MEANING COMPARED TO CITIES.
IS THAT, IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, SO IS THE TREND TO IN GENERAL MOVE TO MORE BENEFICIAL HOLIDAYS FOR THE TOWN STAFF IN GENERAL? WHAT WAS THE THINKING TO GET INTO THAT CONVERSATION ON VETERANS DAY AND JUNETEENTH THAT WASN'T HERE? I WAS, I WAS MISSING, I WAS GONE THAT WEEK.
UH, WOULD JUNETEENTH A NUMBER OF CITIES AND THE TREND IS CERTAINLY THAT CITIES ARE ADDING JUNETEENTH AND THAT'S KIND OF MOST CITIES THAT I THINK VERY SOON SEE MAJORITY OF CITIES GET TO THAT POINT, RIGHT? SO THEY THAT VERY FREQUENTLY AND VETERANS DAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF VETERANS THAT WORK FOR THE TOWN AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO RECOGNIZE THEM AND GIVE THEM THE DAY OFF.
SO THAT'S WHY WE CERTAINLY THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO CELEBRATE VETERANS DAY.
I'D RATHER SEE VETERANS DAY ON THE BIRTHDAY.
I THINK OF VETERANS DAY HOLIDAY IS MORE IMPORTANT.
WELL, I THINK ABOUT THE, UH, THE, THE HIRING ENVIRONMENTS THESE DAYS AND HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND GOOD FOLKS AND UM, YOU KNOW, TO ME IT'S PART OF OUR TOTAL PACKAGE THAT WE'RE OFFERING THE NUMBER AND EVERYBODY'S GONNA LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING HOLISTICALLY.
WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, WHAT DOES THAT OFFER COMPARED TO THE OTHERS? AND, AND MAYBE WE CAN'T OFFER THIS WHATEVER THAT ANOTHER CITY'S OFFERING.
OH, BUT THEY HAVE AN EXTRA HOLIDAY AND, AND BIRTHDAY DAY OFF.
AND SO MAYBE IT HELPS US COMPETE A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN THE, IN THE EMPLOYMENT MARKETPLACE.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LOOK AT IT THAT WAY AS IT'S AN INVESTMENT IN OUR BRAND AS AN EMPLOYER, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
UH, 'CAUSE AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S NOT, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA GET ANY EASIER TO HIRE GREAT FOLKS, UH, ANYTIME SOON.
SO, SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING ADDING THE TWO HOLIDAYS AND KEEPING THE BIRTHDAY PAY.
UM, AND GOING BACK TO THE, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE ATHLETIC CLUB, I DON'T, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE EMPLOYEE'S FAMILY BEING ABLE TO BE INVOLVED IN PROGRAMS LIKE THE CAMPS AND THINGS.
'CAUSE IF NOTHING ELSE IS TO HELP FILL UP SOME OF THOSE, THOSE CLASSES AND, AND PROGRAMS, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S THAT MANY EMPLOYEES THAT LIVE CLOSE ENOUGH TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A REGULAR GYM MEMBERSHIP BECAUSE IF YOU GOT, IF YOU HAVE TO DRIVE MORE THAN 3, 4, 5 MILES TO A GYM, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA GO, I'M NOT GOING.
UM, AND SO I, I JUST THINK MOST PEOPLE WON'T.
I THINK THE, THE, THE BENEFIT WE MIGHT GET FROM HAVING THAT IN PLACE WOULD, WOULD NOT BE THAT GREAT, BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE THEM BE ABLE TO BE PART OF SOME OF THE SUMMER PROGRAMS AND WHATEVER ELSE THAT, UH, JANET MIGHT THINK WOULD BE GOOD FOR THEM TO BE INVOLVED WITH.
SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
SO WHERE DID WE GET TO WITH THAT, THAT POINT? WHERE, WHERE ARE WE AT THAT POINT THAT THE FAMILIES CAN COME AND PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAMMING IN THE SUMMERTIME, THE CAMP? WELL, I DON'T THINK WE GOT ANYWHERE WITH THAT, DID WE? YEAH, AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, THE REQUEST WAS TO KIND OF TABLE A CONVERSATION FROM THE BUDGET DISCUSSION AND HAVE IT IN A SEPARATE WORK SESSION, WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY READY TO HAVE VERY SOON.
WE JUST NEED TO POP IT ON A DATE PROBABLY IN SEPTEMBER.
UM, IF Y'ALL WANNA DISCUSS IT NOW, I THINK, I'M SURE I WOULD THINK IT'S ALLOWED IN BUDGET DISCUSSIONS FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, I DON'T THINK WHAT HAS AN ISSUE.
SO, BUT THAT WAS KIND OF THE POINT THOUGH.
IT REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A BIG, BUT IT DIDN'T AND WE HAVE NO PROBLEM.
SO I WOULD JUST SAY WE'RE STILL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
WE'LL JUST COME BACK WITH THAT WORK SESSION.
I'D RATHER DO IT AT A LATER TIME WHEN WE CAN.
YEAH, I'M IN HIGH FAVOR OF THAT.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE HOLIDAYS.
IT IS ONE OF OUR STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE THAT THE KEY FOCUS AREA IS ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE, WHICH, AND THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY THAT STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE IS ATTRACT AND RETAIN AND DEVELOP TOP TIER EMPLOYEES IN THE LABOR MARKET FOR TALENT AND TAKING CARE OF YOUR TEAM.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SUCH A HUGE, UH, PRIORITIES FOR ME PERSONALLY FOR THE TOWN.
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IT OUT AS, AS COUNCIL ADDING TWO HOLIDAYS.UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ADD YOUR 10TH, YOU, YOU SAY SOMETHING FOR THE RESPECT OF THE HOLIDAY AND WHAT IT MEANS.
AND THE BIRTHDAY HOLIDAY, WELL THAT'S A BIG HOLIDAY FOR EVERYBODY EVERY YEAR YOU COULD CHANGE IT TO A PERSONAL HOLIDAY AND LET THEM TAKE IT WHEN THEY WANT AND THAT WOULD KNOCK OUT, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER HOLIDAY THAT'S IMPORTANT TO 'EM, LIKE VETERANS THERE.
I'M IN FAVOR OF UP THE TWO ADDITIONAL BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GOOD REWARD.
IT'S DIFFERENT THAN OTHER TOWNS.
IT'S ON THE HIGH SIDE, THE AVERAGE IS 11.
I THINK IT'S 13, 12 WITH A PERSONAL HOLIDAY.
WE GO FROM 10 WITH THE PERSONAL HOLIDAY TO 12.
PLUS WE GO FROM 10 WITH THE BIRTH, WITH THE BIRTHDAY.
SO THE TOTAL DAYS WOULD BE A 12.
AVERAGE IS WHAT, 10.32, IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.
I UNDERSTAND HOWARD HOW, WHY YOU'D FEEL THAT WAY.
UM, THE OTHER HAND, I REALLY HATE TAKING SOMETHING AWAY FROM SOMEONE IN MY CAREER THAT'S HAPPENED TO ME.
AND I KNOW HOW THAT FEELS AND THAT'S THE NOT THE MESSAGE THAT I WANNA SEND TO STAFF.
I'M IN FAVOR OF THE TWO EXTRA DAYS.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD SUGGEST IS IF WE FEEL STRONG ENOUGH, MAYBE IT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT'S GRANDFATHERED IN AND NEW HIRES DON'T GET BIRTHDAYS, BUT THEN THAT CAN BE PERCEIVED AS SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
UM, BUT UM, I MEAN I COULD EASILY USE WEIGHT.
IT'S TO ADD A FEW ADDITIONAL CONTEXTS.
TO ME IT WOULD BE MORE OF AN INCENTIVE TO AN INCOMING EMPLOYEE AS, AS PART OF THE, PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT THEY'RE GETTING.
SAY, WELL, IF I COME IN, I DON'T GET WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE ALREADY HAS.
AND COMPARING IT TO THE BUSINESS WORLD IS, IS A DIFFERENT COMPARISON.
UH, THAT'S WHERE I COME FROM, SO I ME TOO.
WELL, THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING IS, LIKE YOU SAID, WE CAN COMPARE IT TO FEDERAL AND STATE NON-BUSINESS, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
I CAN DEFINITELY SUPPORT THE, THE TWO BECAUSE OF EXACTLY WHAT, UH, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE SAME THING THAT, UM, THAT, UH, DARREN READ.
THERE WAS IN OUR FOCUS WHERE OUR FOCUS WE'RE, WE WANT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE MM-HMM.
AND THAT'S JUST A, A WAY TO EXPRESS TO OUR EMPLOYEES THAT WE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE, WE DO THINGS A LOT OF TIMES TO EXPRESS THAT TO OUR CITIZENS.
UH, WE SHOULD DO IT TO, FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AS WELL.
WE CAN ALWAYS COMPETE MONETARILY.
BUT YES, MAYBE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE, I THINK WE HAVE THE TYPE OF EMPLOYEES A LOT OF TIMES THAT EVEN IF THEY ARE, IF THEY DO GET ANOTHER HOLIDAY, THAT WORK, THAT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF TWO PERSONAL HOLIDAYS AND JUNETEENTH AND THAT WAY PERSONAL HOLIDAY CAN BE USED FOR THEIR BIRTHDAY CAN BE USED FOR ANOTHER IMPORTANT HOLIDAY FOR THEM, SUCH AS
I COULD JUST MAKE ONE BECAUSE I, I ALREADY CHARTER DIRECTORS BACK THERE.
SHE PROBABLY REST IF I DIDN'T SAY IT.
THERE IS A NOTE THERE THAT WHILE OUR COMPARATOR CITIES DIDN'T HAVE VETERANS DAY, WHICH IS A GREAT POINT, 70% OF MUNICIPALITIES DO HAVE VETERANS DAY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, WHICH IS BETTER.
CITIES ARE OBVIOUSLY THE MOST RELEVANT.
AND I, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK THAT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE.
I WOULD JUST, ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF HAVING THE SET HOLIDAYS IS SOMEONE WITH KIDS IN SCHOOL, SCHOOLS GET OUT FOUR HOLIDAYS THAT YOU THINK, AND YOU'RE ALWAYS JUST TRYING TO FIND THAT EXTRA THAT IS IMPORTANT.
SO WHERE ARE WE, WHERE ARE WE GOING ON THAT? I'M 12.
YOU WHAT, WHAT? I'M 12, 12 EXTRA DAYS.
I, I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THIS WITH US DURING THE MEETING.
YEAH, I MEAN, FROM, FROM REVIEW, I, I CAN'T SAY I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT ON BOARD, BUT I'M IN FAVOR.
I LOOK AT TWO PERSONAL HOLIDAYS, LIKE WITH RICHARDSON.
IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN BY THOSE FLOATING DAYS? WELL, DAVID'S BEEN REALLY GOOD FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE KIDS IN SCHOOL TO HAVE ALIGNMENT ON WHEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS SHUT DOWN TO, TO BE OFF YOUR WORK.
CHERRY PICK A FEW DAYS THEY NEED, WELL, IT'S GONE MORE FOR THE FIXED DAYS, LEANING TOWARDS THAT.
BUT I WOULD LEAVE THAT TO THE PROFESSIONALS TO GIVE US A, A SUGGESTION ON THAT.
THE HR AND I'M, I'M ALL, I'M OKAY.
SEEMS LIKE THIS IS, OKAY, GOOD.
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ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS WITH STEVEN? THANKS STEVEN.I'LL JUST MAKE ONE NOTE JUST AS FAR AS TIMELINE.
WE HAVE THE BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING NEXT WEEK ON THE THIRD, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING OF OUR TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
UM, I, UH, MENTIONED, I'LL MENTION PUBLICLY ALONG WITH THAT PUBLIC HEARING, UM, FOR KIND OF, WE'RE GONNA ADD ANOTHER WORK SESSION, TYPICALLY JUST HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT SPECIAL MEETING WHERE I GONNA HAVE A WORK SESSION WHERE WE DISCUSS, UM, THAT AND THEATER CENTER.
UM, SOME OF THAT WILL BE RECAPPING PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, TALKING ABOUT OUR PLANS MOVING FORWARD, AND CERTAINLY HOW IT RELATES TO THE FY 25 BUDGET.
SO JUST TO SAY THAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU NEXT WEEK.
I'M REALLY GLAD WE'RE HAVING THE, UH, ADD SOME THEATER DISCUSSION AND THE INCUMBENT, UH, THEATER COMPANY IN THEIR WATER TOWER THEATER COMPANY.
I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE'RE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION NEXT WEEK.
[c. Present and discuss Comparison Cities and consider adjustments. ]
SIX C, PRESENT AND DISCUSS COMPARISON CITIES AND CONSIDER ADJUSTMENTS.SO WE WERE RECENTLY ASKED TO REVIEW CURRENT, BUT I WANNA PROVIDE YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE GET STARTED.
SO THE FOLLOWING 13 CITIES WERE SELECTED BASED ON OUR COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY, WHICH WAS DEVELOPED AT
THE COMPARISON CITY SELECTION IS BASED ON A HYBRID OF TWO FACTORS.
PROXIMITY, WHICH IS TYPICALLY YOUR BORDER, CITIES AND SIMILARITIES.
SO ADDISON DOES FOLLOW THIS HYBRID THAT WE DO INCLUDE ALL OF OUR BORDER CITIES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DALLAS, FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.
AND THE GOAL IS TO HAVE CONSISTENCY YEAR OVER YEAR WHENEVER WE'RE GATHERING DATA SUCH AS HERE.
OBVIOUSLY ALL OUR COMPENSATION OR BENEFITS DATA, UM, LESLIE SAID THAT SHE HAS GATHERED OBVIOUSLY IS IMPORTANT FOR HER.
SO THROUGHOUT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, WE'RE GATHERING VARIOUS DATA.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PROXIMITY, YOU CAN SEE ON THIS LIST ALL OF OUR 13 COMPARISON CITIES OR WITHIN THAT 20 MILE RADIUS OF ADDISON, THE MAJORITY OF THEM BEING WITHIN THAT 15 MILE RADIUS AS OUR TWO OUTLIERS ARE FLOWER, MOUND AND MCKEN.
NEXT, WE TALKED ABOUT SIMILARITY BEING A FACTOR IN OUR COMPARED CITY SELECTION.
SO THIS LIST HAS SOME RELEVANT DATA SUCH AS OUR POPULATION SIZE, OUR COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL PERCENTAGES, THE FACTOR, THE TOTAL FTE COUNT, THE ANNUAL GENERAL TIME BUDGETS, AND THE BOND RATINGS.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO OUR COMPARISON CITIES, BECAUSE ADDISON IS SO UNIQUE, WE TEND TO LOOK AT THE AVERAGE, WHICH IS GONNA BE THAT BOTTOM BLUE WINE.
SO IN ORDER TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE REMAIN COMPETITIVE WITH ALL OF OUR COMPARABLE CITIES THAT DEFINITELY SHARE THAT SAME APPLICANT POINT.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE APPLICANT POOLS, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THE COLONY GARLAND AND GREEN PRAIRIE, WHICH IRONICALLY THEY ARE ALSO IN THAT 10, 15 AND 20 MILE RADIUS MADISON.
WE'RE SEEING THAT CONSISTENT COMPETITION, ESPECIALLY THAT APPLICATION POOL.
AND ESPECIALLY AFTER REVIEWING ALL OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES LISTS, WHO THEY COMPARE THEMSELVES TO.
THESE CITIES WERE PREDOMINANTLY SAME, VERY SHORT AND SHORTER.
WE DO RECOMMEND JUST MAINTAINING OUR COMPARISON CITIES LIST, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT MAYBE ADJUSTING IT, REMOVING AND REPLACING SOME COMPARISON CITIES, WE HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
OTHERWISE WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND GATHER SOME MORE DATA AND HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS UP TO YOU IF YOU WANNA HAVE THE DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLY REMOVING AND REPLACING SOME COMPARISON CITIES.
WE DID CHOOSE REPLACING UNIVERSITY PARK WITH THE COLONY, LEWISVILLE GARLAND AND FLOWER MELON WITH GRAND PRAIRIE.
AND THE REASON WHY, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE MOVING AND REPLACING ONE CITY WITHIN EACH OF THOSE TIERED MILE GREEN BASES, BUT WE'RE SEEING A DECREASE IN COMPETITIVENESS.
WE ALMOST NEVER SEE THE APPLICATION RULE FROM UNIVERSITY PARK.
LOUISVILLE IS RARE FLOWER MOUNTAIN ESPECIALLY.
AND WHEN YOU ALSO LOOK AT THAT LIST OF OUR OTHER COMPARISONS, THEY COMPARE TO, YOU ALMOST NEVER SEE UNIVERSITY PARK ON THE LIST OF THEM COMPARING THEMSELVES TO LEWISVILLE IS PRETTY LOW.
AND SO IS FLAG MOUNTAIN AS WELL.
SO WE JUST THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE YOU SOME DATA TO WALK UP, BUT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING LIKE, THANK YOU ASHLEY.
CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT THE, UH, PHILOSOPHY IS? IS IT 90% OF THE AVERAGE OF OUR COMPARATIVE CITIES? IS THAT HOW IT WORKS? UM, I CAN READ YOU THE PHILOSOPHY.
IT'S, IT'S SHORT IF THAT'S OKAY.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THE MARRIED MARKET PAY PLAN IS THREEFOLD TO ENCOURAGE EXCELLENCE IN SERVICE BY TYING SALARY INCREASES TO JOB PERFORMANCE,
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TO REWARD EMPLOYEES FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN JOB PERFORMANCE, AND TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER METROPOLITAN CITIES IN REGARDS TO THE TOWN'S COMPENSATION PROGRAM.BY PAYING EMPLOYEES BETTER THAN THE AVERAGE OF OUR COMPARISON CITIES AND NONE, THE AVERAGE MEANS 1% BETTER THAN THE AVERAGE OF THE PAY OF THE TOWNS IN.
SO IF WE, IF WE CHANGED UP AND MADE THESE CHANGES, DID YOU LOOK AND SEE WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO THE AVERAGE COMPENSATION? THE AVERAGE COMPENSATION? NO, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA WITH THOSE COMPARISON CITIES YOU UNDER, YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, RIGHT? SHE'D HAVE TO KNOW WHICH CITIES OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONES THAT PROPOSING? YEAH.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT HAPPEN CURRENTLY BECAUSE WE NEVER GATHERED THAT IN THE PAST.
BUT THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T GATHER.
SO THIS CONVERSATION IS MOSTLY BASED ON COMPENSATION COMPARISON.
I FOUND, I'LL JUST JUMP IN THERE BECAUSE YEAH, I WOULD SAY WE GET THIS LIST OF COMPARATOR CITIES.
IT'S MAINLY DRIVEN BY COMPENSATION.
AS YOU'VE SEEN IN OUR DISCUSSIONS TODAY.
IT HAS BECOME OUR BASELINE AS WE HAVE OTHER DISCUSSIONS.
UM, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
THERE ARE GONNA BE TIMES WHERE WE VARY FROM THAT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE EASIEST EXAMPLE WOULD BE IF WE'RE GOING OUT AND TRYING TO DO ANALYSIS OF THE AIRPORT, WE'RE GONNA GO TRY TO FIND CITIES WITH THE AIRPORTS AS OPPOSED TO JUST USING THESE COMPARATOR CITIES.
SO I THINK IT'S MOST APPROPRIATE TO THINK ABOUT THEM FOR COMPENSATION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE USE EVERY YEAR.
VERY FREQUENTLY THEY'LL BECOME THE BASELINE MOVING FORWARD.
BUT I THINK AS TOPICS COME UP, WE CERTAINLY COULD, UM, ADJUST THOSE AND WE, WE WOULD LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE DO THAT, UM, THERE'RE JUST GONNA BE CERTAIN THINGS WHERE THE MIX IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT IT BECOMES THE BASELINE FOR, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS WHERE WE'RE AT IS APPROPRIATE.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE EIGHT, THE 80 20 RULE, 80%, 20% RULE, ONCE YOU GET ABOVE 80%, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GET HIGHER THAN THAT AS FAR AS ACCURACY GOES.
PRINCIPAL, I'D LOVE TO JUMP IN HERE IF I COULD.
UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER DAN, CIO AND I REQUESTED THIS.
AND, UM, I, I LOVE SEEING, ESPECIALLY THIS ON A MAP WITH THIS RADIUS.
I THINK THAT'S VERY HELPFUL, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE FOCUSED ON PROXIMITY.
UM, I'M ALWAYS FOCUSED ON WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE LOCATED IN THE, WHAT I THINK IS THE SWEET SPOT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT PLATINUM CORRIDOR.
SO I'M, I'M VERY, I'M ALWAYS FIXATED ON, ON US, ON DALLAS, ON PLANO, ON FRISCO, OBVIOUSLY OUR OTHER CITIES THAT ARE CLOSE BY RICHARDSON, CARROLLTON, CAPEL, FARMER'S BRANCH.
UM, THOSE TO ME ARE EXTREMELY OBVIOUS THAT THEY SHOULD BE OUR COMPARATOR CITIES.
BUT I'VE ALWAYS KIND OF SCRATCHED MY HEAD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, HOW IT IS.
UNIVERSITY PARK WAS WAS ONE, BUT NOT HIGHLAND PARK.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, CAN YOU GIVE THAT SIMILARITY, UM, LITTLE MATRIX YOU'VE GOT AND IT SHOWS A COLUMN FOR COMMERCIAL AND, UH, RESIDENTIAL.
SO, YOU KNOW, UNIVERSITY PARK COMMERCIAL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE, UM, THE OPPOSITE OF US, RIGHT? COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND SO I JUST, IT'S PRETTY SIMILAR TO CARROLLTON THOUGH.
IF YOU LOOK, UH, AND HIGHLAND PARK WOULD BE EVEN IN, IN FLOWER MOUNTAINS.
SO TO ME IT'S LIKE, I THINK THERE'S LOT OF SOME THERE.
WHY, WHY UNIVERSITY PARK, BUT NOT HIGHLAND PARK IS, IT'S KIND OF ONE QUESTION I'VE ALWAYS, I'VE ALWAYS HAD.
THE OTHER, THE OTHER COUPLE THOUGHTS I I'VE GOT IS, UM, MORE PROXIMITY.
LIKE, IS LEWISVILLE, IS THAT STILL RELEVANT, UM, AS A COMPARER CITY, FLOWER MOUND STILL RELEVANT AS A COMPARATOR CITY? SHOULD, SHOULD HOWARD, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT UP, BROUGHT UP THE POINT, UM, EARLIER IN ANOTHER GEN REGARDING DALLAS.
YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE BE CONSIDERING DALLAS, UM, AS A COMPARATOR CITY? I MEAN, I OBVIOUSLY THINK WE'RE COMPETING WITH THEM, UM, HEAVILY IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
SO THOSE, THOSE WERE SOME OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT, THAT, THAT CAUSED ME TO ASK FOR THIS.
AND I AGAIN, DAN, I APPRECIATE YOU SPONSORING.
FOR ME, BRINGING DALLAS INTO THE MIX WOULDN'T BE THAT HELPFUL.
'CAUSE IT'S SUCH, IT'S JUST SUCH A GIANT MONSTROSITY OF AN OPERATION COMPARED TO OURS AND THE NUMBER OF FTES THEY HAVE AND THE SIZE AND THE BUDGET.
UH, TO ME IT'S SUCH A VERY DIFFERENT CITY.
UM, AND, AND I REALLY THINK THAT LOUIS MOUND, THERE'S SO MUCH GROWTH OVER THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL SAW THAT THE FLOWER MOUND JUST, OR, OR I GUESS ARGYLE ANNOUNCED A NEW, UH, OR FLOWER, I GUESS FLOWER MOUND ANNOUNCED A NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT FOR, IT'S GONNA BE A 40 YEAR
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BUILD OUT.SO THEY'RE GONNA BE COMPETITIVE FOR IT FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, AND I, AND I LIKE ALL, I LIKE THE CITIES THAT WE HAVE.
I THINK IT WORKS PRETTY WELL FOR US.
I'D BE SURPRISED IF AT SOME POINT WE WOULDN'T WANNA BRING IN MAYBE, UM, PROSPER OR SALINA JUST BECAUSE THAT'S, UH, EV EVERYTHING'S, PEOPLE ARE DRAWN TO THE NORTH, YOU KNOW, SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING FOR US TO THINK ABOUT.
BUT FOR NOW, I MEAN, IF, IF, IF, IF ASHLEY'S HAPPY WITH THIS, THIS GROUP OF COMPARATIVE CITIES, I'M NOT ONE TO JUST SECOND GUESS AND TRY TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT GROUP OF CITIES TO JUST FOR THE SAKE OF DOING IT.
UM, 'CAUSE AGAIN, I LIKE TO DEFER TO THE EXPERTS IN THE ROOM.
SO, UM, I LIKE THE THREE ADJUSTMENTS ASHLEY BROUGHT UP.
YOU LIKE WHAT DAN? I LIKE THE ADJUSTMENTS, THE SWAPPING OUT OF THE THREE, THESE THREE ADJUSTMENTS.
I KIND OF FEEL THAT'S A, THAT'S, THAT'S A BETTER VIBE FOR WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF COMPARATORS.
SO YOU REPLACE FLOWER MOUNT WITH GRAND PRAIRIE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING? MM-HMM,
WHAT, WHAT'S THE REASONING? JUST MORE, MORE STAFF? YEAH, STAFFING RESIDENTIAL.
SAY AGAIN? THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
UNIVERSITY PARK'S THE OPPOSITE OF US, WHEREAS IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS ON THE COLONY OR GARLAND, THEY'RE CLOSER TO US ON THE BACK HERE.
SO THE COLONY, UM, PERCENTAGE IS 34% VERSUS 66% RESIDENTIAL.
GARLAND IS 39 COMMERCIALS, 61 RESIDENTIAL GRAND FER IS 49 COMMERCIAL, 51 RESIDENTIAL.
WE'RE UNIVERSITY PARKS 19 OUT OF, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T SEE HOW THEY FIT IN'S.
LIKE YEAH, I'D FEEL LIKE SEEING HIGHLAND PARK ON HERE WOULDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE EITHER, BUT GRAND PRAIRIE COMMERCIAL IS SO DIFFERENT THAN OURS.
THERE'S SO MUCH COMMERCIAL IN INDUSTRIAL.
YEAH, IT'S INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING.
IT'S NOT OFFICE SPACE AND RESTAURANTS.
AND I JUST SPEAK FROM AN AMATEUR, SO I THINK THAT'S CORRECT.
AND IT'S NEWER, A LOT NEWER EXCEPT FOR THE PARTS THAT ARE REALLY OLD
LOOK, LOOK AT WHERE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT IS RIGHT NOW BY THE IKEA AND AROUND IT.
THAT'S GONNA DRIVE THOSE NUMBERS.
I SCRATCHED MY HEAD WITH THE WORD COMPARATOR CITIES ACROSS THE BOARD BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU'RE COMPARING, RIGHT? RIGHT.
IF YOU'RE COMPARING ATTACK, UH, ATTRACTING TALENT AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPENSATION, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LOCATION, PROXIMITY DRIVE.
IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AIRPORTS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AIRPORT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOTELS, THEN YOU KNOW WHAT CARROLLTON DOESN'T FIT AS GOOD AS, UH, ARLINGTON.
UM, SO I, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT I ALWAYS SCRATCH MY HEAD ABOUT WITH THAT.
THAT'S WHY I GO BACK TO THIS IS PROBABLY JUST AS ACCURATE AS ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD THINK ON WOULD BE THE PROXIMITY WOULD DRIVE OR, BUT I, YOU KNOW, THE COLONY IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN US.
UH, GARLAND CERTAINLY IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN, THAN ADDISON, BUT THEY ARE CLOSER AND IF WE'RE ATTRACTING TALENT AND LOCATION, UH, IS A BIG DRIVER.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD SAY.
BUT OTHERWISE I THINK IT'S AT LEAST 80% GOOD ENOUGH.
I'LL JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT ON, I THINK AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF KEEPING THE FOLKS WHO ARE IN THAT OUTER RING IS THAT IF, IF WE THREW A MAP UP HERE AND ACTUALLY CAN SPEAK TO IT BETTER THAN I CAN, BUT IF WE THREW A MAP UP ON HERE WHERE ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES LIVE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT ON THAT OUTER EDGE RIGHT.
OF PROSPER AND THOSE KIND OF AREAS.
THERE'S A LOT OF LIN COUNTY RESIDENTS CALLING IN DENTON COUNTY UP THERE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE.
CAN WE GO BACK TO THE SLIDE SIMILARITY SLIDE? SO, OKAY.
I, I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH DAVID BEFORE.
ADDISON'S POPULATION 17,000, BUT IN THE DAYTIME WHEN WE HAVE ALL THE EMPLOYEES IN TOWN, HE SAYS WE'RE 120.
THAT'S THE MOST RECENT DATA WE GOT FROM 120.
SO, 'CAUSE I, I HAVE HEARTBURN OVER LOOKING AT OUR PAYROLL AND LOOKING AT OUR STAFF FOR THIS TINY LITTLE POPULATION COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES.
AND SO IS THERE A POSSIBILITY TO GET A SLIDE THAT SAYS WHAT EVERYBODY HAS IN THE DAYTIME? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD, I MEAN, ARE THOSE OTHER CITIES, DO PEOPLE, ARE THEY LEAVING THERE SO THEY'RE GETTING SMALLER OR COMING HERE? THEY'RE ALL COMING TO ADDISON OR WHAT'S, I MEAN, IF WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT US AT ONE 20 AND STAFF FOR THAT, I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW THE OTHER CITIES ARE AS OPPOSED TO JUST WHO LIVES THERE.
IS THAT, IS THAT A FAIR QUESTION? THAT'D BE SOMETHING WE'D NEED GOING FORWARD ALSO WOULD BE GOOD DATA.
WELL, BECAUSE IT DRIVES HOW YOU STAFF POLICE AND FIRE, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE HAVE TO STAFF FOR 120,000.
I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE OTHER CITIES, WHAT
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HAPPENS TO THEM IN THE DAYTIME OR AT NIGHT? ON THE WEEKENDS OR WHAT, WHAT ARE WE STAFFING FOR? WE HAVE TO STAFF FOR THE DEMAND 120.YEAH, I MEAN IF WE HAVE TO DO THAT, THEN WE NEED TO COMPARE WITH THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD, JUST FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I WOULD SAY IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITIES WITH 120, WE HAVE A LOT LESS EMPLOYEES THAN, UM, BUT I WOULD, WE CAN CERTAINLY SEE WHAT THEY HAVE.
I THINK NOT ALL CITIES ARE GONNA TRACK THAT.
I THINK THE ONES WHO ARE MORE BUSINESS FOCUSED MAY HAVE THAT NUMBER.
UM, BUT WE CAN SEE IF THEY HAVE IT.
I NOT ALL CITIES KEEP THAT NUMBER READILY AVAILABLE.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING IS, UH, THE BOND RATING.
I THINK DARREN'S COMMENT IS A GOOD ONE.
I MEAN, I, I UNDERSTAND WHY WE LOOK AT THESE.
I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA, THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY.
UM, 13 CITIES, IF WE SWAP THAT A FEW, WE REALLY KNOW HOW MUCH THEY WILL CHANGE THE, THE NEEDLE.
ANYWAY, I I I WOULD JUST, I WOULD SAY, I MEAN I THINK THAT'S, AND THAT'S, WE LOOK AT AN AVERAGE.
SO THE ONES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SWAPPING OUT, I DON'T, I DON'T, NOTHING REALLY STANDS OUT.
THERE ARE A COUPLE CITIES ON HERE WE HAVE TO LIST THAT WE KNOW ARE AT THE HIGHEST END THAT MAY HAVE AN IMPACT, BUT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE AN AVERAGE.
SO I THINK AS FAR AS WHAT THE NUMBERS SHAKE OUT FROM A COMPENSATION STANDPOINT, THERE LIKELY WILL BE A MASSIVE SHIFT.
CAN I ASK, WHAT IF WE JUST ADD THE OTHER THREE AND DECREASE THE FRONT OF THE PHONE?
UM, I'M GOOD WITH THE WAY IT IS.
I THINK WHEN WE USE FOR OTHER THINGS AND IF THERE'S A CITY THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, DOES IT SEEM TO APPLY WITH KIND OF MENTALLY DISREGARDED? YEAH.
DEPENDING ON THE PURPOSE, RIGHT? YEAH.
IS IT A GOOD EXERCISE TO GO THROUGH EVERY YEAR? NOT NECESSARILY EVERY YEAR.
I THINK PERIODICALLY IT'S, THIS IS A GOOD WAY.
WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT IN A WHILE.
SO THIS, THIS IS CERTAINLY WORTHWHILE TO WORK AT IT.
I MEAN, IF WE START TO HAVE A LOT OF CON CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT, IF IT DOESN'T SEEM WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF ISSUES COME UP AND WE LOOK AT THE COMPARATOR CITIES AND THEY'RE NOT HELPING US THAT MUCH.
MAYBE WE LOOKED, WHAT'S THAT? WHAT DID THE OTHER COUNT? I'M OKAY WITH THE WAY IT IS.
YEAH, I THINK I'VE SHARED MY THOUGHTS.
I MEAN, I WOULD, THE UNIVERSITY PARK DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
UM, FLOWER MOUNT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THE COLONY'S NOT IN OUR MIX BEING ITS PROXIMITY.
IF YOU CAN SWAP ME IF IT'S A SWAP, HOW WE SWAP HOW UNIVERSITY PARK AND PUT IT IN THE COLONY AND IT'S NOT ALL THREE THE ONE CITY SWAP.
I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHY I'M
YEAH, I'M, I'M FINE KEEPING IT WAY IT IS.
I THINK THE UNIVERSITY PARK DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
I THINK UNIVERSITY PARK DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME AND THE COLONY WOULD MAKE MORE MORE SENSE.
WELL, I SAW FOUR THAT ARE OKAY WITH KEEPING IT THE WAY IT IS, SO LET'S MOVE ALONG.
WE'LL GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX
[d. Present and discuss an update on the Town's Emergency Management program.]
D PRESENT AND DISCUSS AND UPDATE ON THE TOWN'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.JULIE, WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU FOR A WHILE,
WE'VE PUT YOU OFF SO MANY TIMES AND WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
IF I, I JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT BEFORE JULIE GOES.
WE HAVE BEEN, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR JULIE'S PRESENTATION TO TALK ABOUT ALL THINGS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AS SHE'LL TALK ABOUT IN HER PRESENTATION.
SHE WAS OUR FIRST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, DIRECTOR, MANAGER THAT WE HIRED IN TOWN AND THAT WAS A BIG PRIORITY, EMERGENCY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
SO IT WAS A BIG PRIORITY AND WE'RE JUST SO HAPPY WITH JULIE BEING HERE.
COUNCIL, THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
I THOUGHT I'D GIVE MYSELF A LITTLE BIT OF, OF A, UM, INTRODUCTION.
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SCHOOL AT UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS.MY FOCUS WAS ON FINANCIAL RECOVERY OF CITIES, COUNTIES, AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS CALLED HURRICANE HARVEY.
UM, AND WHILE I WAS THERE, I WAS WITH THE RECOVERY DIVISION OF
THEY HAD SOME TURNOVER THERE, SO I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP PROGRAM.
UM, THEY WERE OFFICE OF THREE PEOPLE.
AND SO, UM, AS GABE MENTIONED, I AM NOW THE FIRST PERSON TAKING ON THIS ROLE FOR THE TOWN ADDISON.
AND SO TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS GONNA BE ABOUT SORT OF WHERE I AM HOPING TO GO WITH THIS ROLE, AS WELL AS A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SINCE STARTING DECEMBER LAST.
SO WHAT IS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT? IT IS ABOUT BUILDING A FRAMEWORK TO MAKE SURE THAT AS A COMMUNITY AND AS WELL AS ORGANIZATION, WE'RE BOTH AVOIDING RISK, WE'RE MITIGATING AGAINST HAZARD, WE'RE INCREASING OUR RESILIENCE, OUR ONE WHO BOUNCE BACK AS SOMETHING HAPPENS NORMAL.
UM, BUT THAT WE'RE ALSO IN A STATE OF READINESS SO THAT WE HAVE RESOURCES AND TRAINING AND FRAMEWORK ABLE TO RESPOND TO EVENTS.
SO MY GOAL IS TO HELP BUILD A MORE RESILIENT ADDISON, UM, THE COMMUNITY THAT
SO I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH ALL OUR DEPARTMENTS, UM, QUAD CITY EMERGENCY MANAGERS AND COMPARE THEM STRATEGIC PLANS, SORT WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON, UM, LOOKED AT OUR STATE REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENTS OR WHAT KINDS OF
UM, DOING THAT, I COME UP WITH FOUR KEY VALUES FOR WHAT I THINK WE WANT GOING TOWARDS.
WE WANNA BE PREPARED, PRACTICED, UH, RESPONSIVE AND COLLABORATIVE.
AND SO WHAT THAT IS GONNA LOOK LIKE IS PREPARED IS ABOUT SORT OF GOING THROUGH A PLANNING PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT ROLES AND RESPONSIBLE ARE DURING A SITUATION AND PRACTICE IS ABOUT HAVING SORT OF A CULTURE OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.
THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE EDUCATED AND KNOW SORT OF WHAT THEY CAN DO BEST DURING ANY KIND OF A DISASTER.
BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE EXERCISES SO THAT ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF, UM, ORGANIZATION WE'RE ABLE TO RESPOND TOGETHER ON EVENTS.
UH, RESPONSIVE IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE RESPONSIVE, WHETHER THAT'S TRAINING, UM, SO JUST BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN, UM, COLLABORATIVE IS GONNA BE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING A REGIONAL APPROACH TO RESILIENCY AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THAT SORT OF REGIONAL DISCUSSION IS GONNA BE BEST FOR ADDISON.
SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE A PART OF THOSE RELATIONSHIP EFFORTS.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT I'M DOING IN THESE AREAS? UM, SO THE FIRST ONE FOR PREPARED IS GONNA BE ABOUT DEVELOPING PLANS.
WE NEED TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE SIGNED ONTO DALLAS COUNTY OPERATIONS PLAN.
MY INTENT IS TO STAY ON THAT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME WHILE WE GO THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS TO DEVELOP OUR OWN.
THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO COUNTY ADDISON.
AND FOR CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS, THIS IS A PLAN ABOUT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT DEPARTMENTS, IF THERE'S A DISRUPTION TO THEIR OPERATIONS, THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE AND THAT THEY HAVE SORT OF IDENTIFIED THE BEST WAYS THEY CAN CONTAIN TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.
AND SO I'M WORKING ON THAT AS A PILOT WITH FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
UM, FOR THE DALLAS COUNTY HAZARD MITIGATION ACTION PLAN, THIS IS A PLAN THAT A LOT OF CITIES ARE A PART OF.
THE PURPOSE OF WHICH IS TO IDENTIFY WHAT WE WANNA DO TO MITIGATE OUR RISK TO HAZARDS.
UH, THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THIS PLAN IS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UM, THESE STRATEGIES SO THAT IF WE WANT TO SEEK, UH, HAZARD MITIGATION GRANTS THAT WE ARE ELIGIBLE TO DO SO.
IN TERMS OF PRACTICE, THIS IS ABOUT PUBLIC EDUCATION AND OUTREACH TRAINING AND EXERCISE.
WE'RE WORKING ON AN EXERCISE, UM, THE AIRPORT, THE, AND, AND HAVING A CORRECTIVE ACTION PROGRAM.
SO MAKING SURE THAT WHENEVER WE HAVE MAJOR INCIDENTS OR EVENTS THAT WE LEARN FROM THOSE AND WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KIND OF CONTINUING TO DO BEST PRACTICE.
RESPONSIVE IS ABOUT BUILDING OUR EMERGENCY SUPPORT TEAM AND OPERATIONS CENTER, SO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD WAY OF COLLABORATING TOGETHER
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AND, AND HAVING A WHOLE PROCESS FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.UM, AND THAT INCLUDES BEING, UH, ABLE TO BE SUPPORTIVE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
AND ALSO ACTIVE INCIDENT COLLABORATIVE IS GONNA BE PARTICIPATING IN REGIONAL PLANNING COMMITTEES.
AND THEN ALSO THIS ISN'T WITH AN EYE TOWARDS, UH, EVENTUALLY BEING ELIGIBLE TO BE ACCREDITED BY THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
SO WHAT HAVE I BEEN DOING? UM, I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET MY FEET WET.
UH, WHEN I FIRST STARTED WITH DEVELOPING A WINTER WEATHER OPERATIONS PLAN JUST TO SORT OF DELINEATE RESPONSIBILITIES WHEN WE HAVE A WINTER EVENT, UH, THEN WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TEST THAT PLAN WITH MLK WINTER, UM, WEEKEND ARCTIC FREEZES.
AND SO FOLLOWING THAT EVENT, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF REASSESS THAT PLAN AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PERFECTLY ADJUSTED FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
JUST MAKING SURE THE RULES AND RESPONSIBILITIES MAKE SENSE.
UM, WE ALSO HAD ON MAY 28TH, A RESPONSE TO THE STORM.
THERE WAS A STRAIGHT LINE WIND THAT HAD DAMAGE LEFT AREA.
UM, AND SO WE ACTUALLY DID HAVE, UH, FEMA DECLARE FOR INDIVIDUAL AND PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.
AND SO WE'RE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF DETERMINING WHETHER WE'RE ELIGIBLE, UM, FOR WHAT COSTS, FOR REINFORCEMENT, FOR PUBLIC ASSISTANCE IN TERMS OF SPECIAL EVENTS.
WE HAD THE ECLIPSE, SO WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE, UM, SORT OF WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE FOR THAT, FOR AN EVENT ACTION PLAN IN CASE THERE WAS ANY SURPRISES.
UH, SINCE THEN, I'VE ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON TASTE ABSENT IN KABOOM TOWN.
UM, THE FIRST PICTURE AT THE TOP, I WENT TO WILDFLOWER IN RICHARDSON TO SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE SORT OF FOLLOWING BEST PRACTICES, UM, AND, AND DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS ARE SAFE.
UH, WE CHANGED THE FOOTPRINT FOR SPECIAL EVENTS AND SO WE'VE BEEN USING THIS ROOM FOR THE COMMAND CENTER.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE SECOND PICTURE IS.
UM, DURING TASTE ADDISON, WHEN WE WERE MAKING DECISIONS ON, ON WHETHER, UM, AND SHELTERING IN PLACE, SO HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON THE EVENT ACTION PLAN, SUPPORTING THE COMMAND CENTER, AND THEN ALSO HAVING A PROCESS TO HEAR BACK FROM STAFF THAT WORKED THE EVENT ON IF THERE WAS ANY KIND OF ISSUES THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE INTO IMPROVING EVERY SPECIAL EVENTS TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALWAYS AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE.
LOOK HOW HAPPY OUR POLICE OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, HARD AT WORK TOO.
MINORLY, STAGED MINOR, THEY WERE ALL, YOU KNOW, WE WERE VERY ACTIVE IN HERE, I THINK WITH THAT, ANNETTE, AND IT WAS A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF COLLABORATE TOGETHER.
UM, SO YEAH, I THINK IT WAS A SUCCESS, BUT YOU CAN ASK, YOU CAN ASK POLICE SUPPLIER.
UM, I'VE ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THE REGIONAL EXERCISES AND LOCAL EXERCISES.
UM, FROM THAT MAY 28TH STORM, THERE WAS ALSO SOME SEVERE FLOODING AND TREE DAMAGE TO KAUFFMAN COUNTY.
AND SO I WAS ABLE TO DEPLOY WITH THE EMERGENCY SUPPORT TEAM, AND SO WE LEARNED SOME OF THE THINGS FROM THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
UM, AND SO THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THAT IF WE EVER HAVE ANY KIND OF THOSE NEEDS, THAT WE CAN ALSO REQUEST ASSISTANCE THROUGH THAT PROGRAM.
UM, I'VE DONE PUBLIC OUTREACH.
SO THIS BOTTOM PICTURE IS FROM THE CHRISTMAS IN JULY EVENT, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO RESIDENTS ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO FOR INDIVIDUAL PREPAREDNESS.
UM, AND I'VE ALSO TAKEN ON, UH, MANAGEMENT OF OUTDOOR WARNING SIRENS AND WEATHER INFORMATION SUPPORT.
SO MY DEPARTMENTS WANNA KNOW SORT OF WHAT THE WEATHER IMPACTS ARE GONNA BE FOR EVENTS, ESPECIALLY OUTSIDE, I CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
UM, LOOKING AHEAD, WHAT AM I WORKING ON RIGHT NOW? SOME PREPARATION FOR OCTOBER FEST, MAKING SURE WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE IN TERMS OF DOCUMENTATION.
UM, WE HAVE AN EXERCISE FOR THE FALL THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH DESIGN ON RIGHT NOW WITH THE AIRPORT, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING.
UM, I'M GONNA CONTINUE WORKING ON, UH, DRAFTING A LOT OF PLANS AND STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND THEN CONTINUING PUBLIC OUTREACH.
SO NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, SO SEPTEMBER'S COMING UP AND SEPTEMBER IS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH.
SO I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A PUBLIC, UH, PREPAREDNESS MESSAGE.
ALL RIGHT? YOU WANNA BE INFORMED, MAKE A PLAN, AND BUILD A KIT TO BE INFORMED.
ONE THING YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOU AND, AND ALL OF YOUR RESIDENTS ARE SIGNING UP FOR ADDISON ALERT, UH, SO THAT YOU GET LATEST INFORMATION ABOUT WEATHER.
AND THAT'S ALSO A WAY THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE IF THERE IS ANY KIND OF NEED EVENT, WE CAN GEO LOCATE A MESSAGE THAT WAY.
SO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD DO IF THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, A FIRE IN YOUR HOUSE, WHERE WOULD YOU MEET OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOME, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE SOME ESSENTIALS AT HOME, AT WORK, AND IN YOUR CAR, RIGHT? AND SO THAT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE STRANDED
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OR IF YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF AN EVENT THAT YOU'RE PREPARED.SO A LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK, SIGN UP FOR ADDISON ALERT, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY SIGNS UP FOR THAT.
IT'S A REALLY GREAT, UH, WAY TO GET INFORMATION.
THERE'S WAYS TO SORT OF CUSTOMIZE THAT.
SO ALWAYS REACH OUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
UH, SOME OF THESE WEBSITES THAT I HAVE AT THE BOTTOM, ADDISON ALERT.COM, TEXAS READY.GOV AND KNOW TO DO.COM ARE ALL GREAT RESOURCES.
IF YOU WANNA LEARN MORE ABOUT, UM, TORNADOES OR RISKS THAT ARE IN YOUR AREA, UM, KNOW WHAT TO DO IS SPECIFIC TO THE, UH, NORTH TEXAS REGION.
SO A LOT OF THAT CONTENT IS VERY SPECIFIC TO US, WHICH IS AWESOME.
UM, TEXAS READY.GOV HAS THIS MIDDLE, UH, WALLET CARD, WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD, UM, ACTIVITY FOR FOLKS TO DO WHERE YOU CAN DETERMINE WHO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD CONTACT IS, HAVE AN OUT OF STATE EMERGENCY CONTACT, AND SORT OF ESTABLISH WHERE YOUR MEETING LOCATIONS ARE SO THAT IF YOU CAN'T COMMUNICATE, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOUR FAMILY'S GONNA BE.
THANKS SO MUCH EVERYBODY, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANKS, JULIE, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
SO ON MAY 28TH WITH THE STORM, THAT STRAIGHT LINE WINDS YES, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT APPLICATIONS OR APPLYING FOR FEMA, PUBLIC ASSISTANCE FUNDS.
CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THE PUBLIC? YEAH, SO WHEN A DISASTER MEETS A CERTAIN THRESHOLD FOR THE COUNTY, UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE TWO THINGS.
THERE'S INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE, PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE ASKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.
UM, SO FOR PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, ONCE THE COUNTY REACHES THAT THRESHOLD AND FEMA DECLARES THAT THERE'S A DISASTER FOR THAT COUNTY, THEN THROUGH THE STAFFORD ACT, UM, THOSE PUBLIC ENTITIES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR SEEKING REIMBURSEMENT TRADITIONALLY THAT 75%, UM, OF ELIGIBLE COSTS.
AND SO THOSE ARE THINGS RELATED TO DEBRIS MANAGEMENT, BUILDING DAMAGE, UM, EMERGENCY WORK.
AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
WE, WHEN THAT STORM HAPPENED, UM, WE DID SOME PRELIMINARY DATA COLLECTION ON SORT OF A LOT OF PICTURES AND A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION ABOUT WHERE THAT DAMAGE WAS.
UM, AND SO NOW I FRIDAY WILL HAVE A KICKOFF MEETING, UM, WITH THE, IT'S, IT'S A 15 MINUTE KICKOFF MEETING WITH THE STATE, UM, AND THE FEMA REPRESENTATIVE FOR US.
UM, AND SO THEN WE'LL GOING THROUGH, UH, SORT OF WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE FOR WHAT DOCUMENTATION THEY NEED, AND SO THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT DOCUMENTATION, SEE WHAT WE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR.
UM, AND THEN ANYTHING WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BEEN ELIGIBLE AND WE'RE NOT, UM, THEN WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY LATER TO DO SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, UH, AFTER ACTION REPORT WITH DEPARTMENTS AND ALSO TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL STEPS THAT WE NEED TO PUT INTO OUR PROCESS WHEN OCCURS.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I, I'VE GOT JUST REALLY QUICK.
UM, SO YOU'VE BEEN HERE EIGHT MONTHS AND I HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOUR FIRST IMPRESSIONS OF WHERE WE ARE? WHERE DO WE NEED TO BE? UM, A LOT OF WHAT YOU SAID WAS CREATING ACTION PLANS, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE EXPECT, YOU KNOW, A, A BUDGET ITEM IN THE FUTURE OF LIKE, ASSETS THAT YOU MIGHT NEED COMPARED TO TOWN? GREAT QUESTION.
UM, I THINK, I THINK THAT THE TOWN HAS DONE A PRETTY PHENOMENAL JOB AT A LOT OF THIS, RIGHT? A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF THOSE ROLES ON.
UM, AND SO THIS IS SORT OF ABOUT HAVING A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH AND MAKING SURE WE'RE, WE'RE ACHIEVING ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT AREAS.
UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW WHAT EXACTLY I WOULD BE PUTTING AS A REQUEST.
I THINK THAT THERE IS DEFINITELY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THINGS THAT WE MAYBE WOULD LIKE AS A TOWN, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN PURSUE ANY GRANTS, UM, FOR SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, UH, WITH THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, UM, WHEN, WHEN THAT HAPPENED, WE'RE ALSO ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR THE HAZARD MITIGATION, UM, GRANTS.
AND SO IF THERE'S DAMAGE THAT HAPPENED WHERE THEN WE CAN ADD ON ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, UM, RELATED TO THAT THERE, THERE WE CAN PURSUE THAT.
UM, AND SO IN LINE WITH, UM, THE UPDATE TO THE DALLAS COUNTY HAZARD MITIGATION ACTION PLAN, I MET WITH DEPARTMENTS ABOUT WHAT ARE ALREADY IN LINE WITH OUR GOALS THAT ARE ACTIONS THAT ARE MITIGATIVE.
UM, SO WE'RE PUTTING THAT INTO THAT PLAN SO THAT WHEN THAT GRANT IS OPEN THAT WE CAN TRY TO SEEK, UM, SOME REIMBURSEMENT, NOT REIMBURSEMENT, SORRY, THAT WE CAN SEEK, UM, FUNDING IN THAT WAY.
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I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW COMPETITIVE WE WILL BE.I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THAT STUFF, BUT, UM, I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE, UM, YOU KNOW, LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT, WHAT IT IS WE ACTUALLY NEED AND WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S OTHER AVENUES TO, UM, I THINK ONE THING THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN IS GONNA BE THINGS LIKE WRITING BARRIERS AND THAT KIND OF THINGS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, BUT I THINK THAT'S FURTHER DOWN THE LINE, UM, FOR DISCUSSION.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AS A FOLLOW UP TO HIS QUESTION.
SO, WHICH BROUGHT ME BACK A DEJA VU MOMENT.
SO DURING THAT STRAIGHT LINE WIND STORM, LOTS OF TREE BRANCHES DOWN, LOTS OF TREES CAME DOWN.
I KNOW FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCES, I CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT FOR HOWARD, UM, PEOPLE STARTED TO CALL AND COMPLAIN ABOUT OUR TRASH REMOVAL, THE DEBRIS REMOVAL PROCESS VERSUS OTHER CITIES.
AGAIN, I HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF GOING WITH HOWARD TO ONE OF OUR, OUR, UM, ONE OF HIS NEIGHBORS AND SORT OF SOON DOING SOME DEBRIS REMOVAL, BUT WATCHING WHERE OTHER FOLKS WERE PUTTING THEIR DEBRIS CREATED HAZARDS.
SO IS THIS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IF YOU HAD TO GIVE US A GRADE OF HOW WE PICKED UP AND REMOVED THE DEBRIS, WERE WE AVERAGE ABOVE AVERAGE? SO IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO SAY, UM, BECAUSE CITIES DID HAVE PRETTY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES OF HOW MUCH DAMAGE THEY HAD.
UM, I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY COMMON EXPERIENCE, RIGHT? THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE THE, THE DEBRIS CLEAN UP FASTER.
UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO TALK TO SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT DID THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE BEFORE.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE PART OF, UH, CORRECTING LIKE A, AN AFTER ACTION PROCESS TO SORT OF DETERMINE IF WE HAD FEEDBACK THAT THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO DIFFERENTLY.
UM, I THINK IT WAS A CHALLENGE ALSO BECAUSE A LOT OF RESIDENTS WERE STRESSED, UM, BECAUSE OF POWER OUTAGES AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WASN'T IN OUR CONTROL, RIGHT? UM, I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ENCORE HAD AN EVENT THAT WAS VERY WIDESPREAD AND SO VERY CHALLENGING.
AND SO EVEN JUST HAVING POWER, UM, COME TO THE PARK FOR SPECIAL EVENTS WHEN OTHER RESIDENTS WERE STILL NOT HAVING POWER WAS STRESSFUL.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER WE DID BETTER OR WORSE THAN OTHER
I MEAN AS FAR AS JUST PICK UP OF RESIDENTS WITH THEIR BRUSH, I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T DONE A SURVEY ANALYSIS, BUT I'LL JUST TELL YOU ANECDOTALLY, WE GET THERE WERE CITIES MO MOST CITIES I TALKED TO WERE MONTHS AFTER WE WERE DONE, WE GOT IT PICKED UP MUCH QUICKER THAN OTHER CITIES.
UM, I CAN THINK OF ONE CITY IN PARTICULAR THAT UP UNTIL JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, THEY WERE STILL WORKING THEIR WAY ALL ACROSS TOWN.
SO SOME OF THAT'S OUR SIZE, RIGHT? BUT, UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF GETTING EVERYTHING PICKED UP AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO DO HOW YOU CONTRIBUTED TO, I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF, IF THERE'S ANOTHER STRAIGHT LINE WINDSTORM AND TREES COME DOWN AND YOU CUT YOUR DEBRIS UP AND YOU STACK IT, WHERE DO YOU STACK IT SO YOU DON'T CREATE THOSE HAZARDS? HOWARD AND I EXPERIENCED THAT ON WINDWOOD, RIGHT? I WOULD SAY WE, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS TIME WE STARTED ON THE WEST SIDE IN NORTH EAST, OF COURSE I THE EAST AND I WAS HEARING FROM EAST FIELD COMPLAINT.
YEAH, I THINK MAYBE WE NEEDED TO DO AN ASSESSMENT, GO AROUND TOWN AND FIND OUT WHERE THERE'S, WHERE THERE'S DANGEROUS STACKS AND MAYBE PRIORITIZE THOSE IF THEY'RE BLOCKING.
YOU CAN'T SEE IF SOMEONE'S COMING 'CAUSE OF THE WAY THEY STACK THE DEBRIS INSTEAD OF JUST, I, I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO BE SYSTEMATIC AND JUST WORK YOUR WAY ACROSS TOWN, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SEEN WHO, WHERE THE NEEDS WERE THE WORST DONE THOSE FIRST.
IF YOU JUST PILE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK AND IT'S NOT REALLY CAUSING A HAZARD, SOME JUST ONE ON THE PROPERTY, WELL, IT'S NOT HIGH PRIORITY.
THE CORNERS WHERE IT BLOCKED YOUR VIEW AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT I THINK DANGEROUS.
WELL, JULIE, I LOVE, I LIKE SAYING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CONTINUING PUBLIC OUTREACH IS ONE OF YOUR THINGS AND, AND, UH, AND I'M WONDERING IF AT SOME POINT WE COULD HAVE A PREPAREDNESS SEMINAR OR SOMETHING FOR RESIDENTS.
'CAUSE I, I FEEL LIKE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE PROBABLY NOT NEARLY AS PREPARED AS, AS WE SHOULD BE IF THE, IN THE EVENT WE HAD A REALLY MAJOR DISASTER COME THROUGH.
'CAUSE WE'RE USED TO HAVING THESE GREAT FIRST RESPONDERS AND ALL THE TOWN STAFF, THEY COME ON AND FIVE MINUTES LATER IT'S ALL GOOD TO GO.
RIGHT? BUT, YOU KNOW, DURING THAT FIRST 24, 48 HOURS OR WHATEVER THAT TIMEFRAME IS THAT Y'ALL SAY IS THE TIME THAT YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO DEPEND ON EMERGENCY RESPONSE BEING THERE, WHAT DO PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE IN PLACE? SO I'D LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD GET A LOT OF PEOPLE TO SHOW UP FOR IT.
MAYBE WE DO IT IN ONE OF OUR TOWN HALL MEETINGS OR SOMETHING.
AND, UH, BUT I, BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO PEOPLE ARE MORE EDUCATED ABOUT BEING PREPARED THEMSELVES.
MAYOR, WE, WE DID HAVE A, A LITTLE SOCIAL AT, AT THE EDISON ATHLETIC CLUB ABOUT
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A, A MONTH AGO, THE HOT DOG, UH, THING.AND THE FIRST RESPONDERS WERE THERE AND THEY DID GIVE OUT, UM, I THINK SOMETHING EXACTLY OR CLOSE TO WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
UM, THAT MEANS YOU, YOU SPOKE TO ME AND SHARED SOME IDEAS AND, AND I TOOK MY HAND, YOU KNOW, MY CHECKLIST.
UM, IF WE CAN DO MORE OF THAT AT, UH, UH, WHAT'S THE NEXT EVENT? NATIONAL NIGHT OUT? YEAH, SO I'LL BE AT NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
UM, IF, IF RESIDENTS ARE INTERESTED AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE A BUILDING COMPLEX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE THERE'S A BENEFIT FOR ME TO GO SPEAK, THAT'S DEFINITELY AN OPTION.
UM, I WILL BE TALKING SORT OF EVENTUALLY WAS THE ATHLETIC CLUB ABOUT IF I CAN DO SOMETHING PROGRAMMING THROUGH THEM.
I WILL ALSO SAY THAT THEY'VE ALREADY PROVIDED SOME OF THAT CONTENT.
SO USUALLY THEY HAVE, UM, A WEATHER FORECASTER COME THROUGH, UM, TO PROVIDE INFORMATION.
UM, USUALLY AUGUST AND NOVEMBER, SO ONCE RELATED TO, TO WINTER AND THEN ONCE RELATED TO TORNADO CONTENT.
UM, AND SO I DEFINITELY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I FIT IN PROGRAMMING.
UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING I'M INTERESTED IN DOING MORE OF.
SO DOES THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PRE PREPARATION AND PLANNING, UH, PREVENTION WORK THAT, THAT YOU, YOU DO, DOES THAT IMPACT LIKE LARGER, UM, RATINGS OR INSURANCE RATINGS FOR THE TOWN, FOR THE HOMEOWNERS, FOR UM, COMMERCIAL INSURANCE OR TOWN INSURANCE? CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY IT CAN, RIGHT? UM, THE WAY THAT THE TOWN, I MEAN, I'M, I'M ONE PIECE IN A COG OF, OF PUBLIC, UH, SAFETY, RIGHT? AND SO OUR WAY THAT WE RESPOND AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS GONNA HAVE AN IMPACT AND OTHER COMMUNITIES THERE IS AN IMPACT THROUGH LIKE THE COMMUNITY READING SYSTEM.
IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S FLOODING, THERE MAY BE A DECREASE IN YOUR INSURANCE COSTS, THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT TO WHICH I, I WILL HAVE, I'M SURE YOU WOULD.
ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU JULIE.
APPRECIATE ALL YOUR LONG WORK YOU'RE DOING FOR US.
[e. Present and discuss the Town of Addison FY 2024 Third Quarter Financial Report.]
ITEM SIX E PRESENTED AND DISCUSS THE TOWN OF ABSENT FY 2024 THIRD COURT OF FINANCIAL REPORT.THIS IS A REPORT THAT'S IN OUR PACKETS.
UH, IF, IF YOU, IF THE COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH IT, WE COULD JUST SAY YOU HAVE THE REPORT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? OR YOU CAN COME BACK LATER ON, ASK QUESTIONS? OR DO WE NEED TO HAVE A PRESENTATION? I, I AGREE.
Y'ALL OKAY WITH THAT? YES SIR.
ALRIGHT, VERY SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
AND WITH THAT, OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS ARE OVER.
SO WE WILL TAKE A BRIEF RECESS, UH, FOR 10 MINUTES AND WE'LL CONVENE AT
[a. Present a Proclamation to the National Payroll Association in recognition of National Payroll Week.]
AND WHEREAS PAYROLL DEPARTMENTS COLLECTIVELY SPEND MORE THAN $2.4 TRILLION ANNUALLY COMPLYING WITH MYRIAD FEDERAL AND STATE WAGE AND TAX LAWS.AND WHEREAS PAYROLL PROFESSIONALS HAVE BECOME INCREASINGLY PROACTIVE IN EDUCATING BOTH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC AT LARGE ABOUT PAYROLL TAX WITHHOLDING SYSTEMS. AND WHEREAS PAYROLL PROFESSIONALS
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RE MEET REGULARLY WITH FEDERAL AND STATE OFFICIALS TO DISCUSS BOTH IMPROVING COMPLIANCE WITH GOVERNMENT PROCEDURES AND HOW COMPLIANCE CAN BE ACHIEVED AT LESS COST TO BOTH GOVERNMENT AND BUSINESSES.AND WHEREAS THE WEEK IN WHICH LABOR DAY FALLS HAS BEEN PROCLAIMED NATIONAL PAYROLL WEEK, I HEREBY GIVE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT TO THE EFFORTS OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN ADDISON, TEXAS AND OF THE PAYROLL PROFESSION BY PROCLAIMING.
THE FIRST FULL WEEK OF SEPTEMBER IS PAYROLL WEEK FOR ADDISON, TEXAS AND WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE HERE TO ACCEPT THE, UH, PROCLAMATION.
WE HAVE ENDUR PAPAYA FROM PAYROLL.ORG AND WE HAVE ON ONE OF OUR OWN STAFF, LAUREN SHAW, SHE'S OUR PAYROLL AND RISK MANAGER.
AND WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT IS SAYING GET THE GUARD OR PAYROLL ACCOUNTANT.
AND SO IF Y'ALL WOULD JOIN ME UP HERE FOR THE, TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION.
ALRIGHT, THEN WE HAVE ITEM TWO B AND
[b. City Manager's Announcements]
[c. Employee Recognition]
TWO C, WHICH ARE CITY MANAGER ANNOUNCEMENTS AND EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION.FIRST, JOIN US THURSDAY, AUGUST 29TH AT 6:00 PM AT ROO.
FOR OUR NEXT CITY SIPS AND SCOOPS, WE'LL BE PROVIDING AN UPDATE ON THE FY ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET AS WELL AS TOWN FACILITY A A TOWN FACILITIES UPDATE.
SPEAKING OF THE BUDGET, WE HAVE A BUDGET, UH, PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FFY ON THE FY 25 BUDGET AND TAX RATE SCHEDULED FOR NEXT TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3RD AT FIVE 30.
HERE AT THE CONFERENCE CENTER, THERE IS A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR, UH, SCHEDULED DURING THE SEPTEMBER 10TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
WE HOPE THE COMMUNITY WILL ATTEND EITHER OF THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND SHARE THEIR FEEDBACK.
TICKETS ARE NOW AVAILABLE@ADDISONOCTOBERFEST.COM.
ADDISON RESIDENTS CAN GET DISCOUNTED TICKETS AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB THROUGH SEPTEMBER 15TH.
FINALLY, ADDISON OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 2ND FOR LABOR DAY.
IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE WHEN OFFICES ARE CLOSED, PLEASE CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY PUBLIC SAFETY NUMBER AT 9 7 2 4 5 0 7 1 5 6.
TRASH AND RECYCLING WILL STILL BE COLLECTED ON THE REGULAR SCHEDULE.
WE DO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE, UH, RECOGNITION AS WELL.
SO I'M GONNA ASK OUR AIRPORT DIRECTOR JOEL JINGLE TO COME UP.
UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
I AM PLEASED TO INTRODUCE STEFAN VITALI, WHO HAS BEEN WORKING AT ADDISON AIRPORT AS AN AIRPORT MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN, TWO SINCE AUGUST 5TH, 2024.
SO HE'S BEEN WITH US JUST ABOUT THREE WEEKS NOW.
UH, STEFAN WAS BORN IN PARADISE, CALIFORNIA, BUT SPENT MOST OF HIS LIFE IN BEAVERTON AND SALEM, OREGON.
HE MOVED TO TEXAS WHERE HE GRADUATED FROM LEBANON TRAIL HIGH SCHOOL IN FRISCO AND FURTHERED HIS EDUCATION AT LINDSEY COOPER REFRIGERATION SCHOOL IN IRVING, TEXAS.
WHILE STEFAN IS NOT PARTICULARLY INTO SPORTS, HE IS AN AVID FAN OF FORD PERFORMANCE IN IMSA AND GT RACING.
HE HAS PASSION FOR CARS AND TAKES PRIDE IN MAINTAINING AND FIXING HIS OWN VEHICLE.
AN INTERESTING FACT ABOUT STEPHAN IS THAT HE WAS ONE OF THE TOP MALE VOCALISTS IN HIS REGION DURING HIGH SCHOOL.
WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE HIM SING
STEPHAN IS MOST PROUD OF BEING OFFERED A POSITION AS A TEACHER'S ASSISTANT AT LINDSEY COOPER.
SHORTLY AFTER GRADUATING, HE WAS DRAWN TO ADDISON BY THE POSITIVE ENVIRONMENT.
TANDY DICKEY FROM THE ADDISON FINANCE DEPARTMENT MENTIONED TO STEFAN THAT HE WOULD BE A GREAT FIT FOR THE TOWN AND STEFAN COULDN'T AGREE MORE.
HE LOVES ADDISON AND THE WORK HE DOES.
WHILE STEFAN IS ONE OF THE NEWEST AIRPORT EMPLOYEES, HE TRULY EXEMPLIFIES THE DEPARTMENTAL AND ORGANIZATIONAL VALUES.
WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE ADDISON WAY, HE DESCRIBES IT AS STRIVING TO BE THE BEST PERSON WHILE WORKING WITH PRIDE AND INTEGRITY.
AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW HAPPY WE ARE TO HAVE A FULL COMPLIMENT OF MAINTENANCE GUYS NOW.
AND PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING STEPHAN WE GO.
THANK YOU STEFAN, AND WELCOME TO ADDISON.
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COMMENTS.UH, THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY MATTER INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA.
COMMENTS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD WHEN THE SPECIFIC HEARING STARTS.
CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES UNLESS RE OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW AND I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY SPEAKER CARDS.
UH, SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES, YOU CAN COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME AND SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.
[4. Consent Agenda. All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]
FOUR, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDES ITEMS FOUR, A, B, AND C.IS THERE A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE? SECOND AND A SECOND FROM MARLON? WAS IT? THANK YOU NANCY FOR THE MOTION.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, ITEM FOUR, CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.
[a. Present, discuss, and consider action on a request granting a Meritorious Exception to Chapter 62 of the Code of Ordinances for UDR, located at 3800 Spring Valley Road, in order to allow a 391 square-foot mural on the west facade. (Case MR2024-05/3800 Spring Valley Rd - UDR).]
A, UH, THESE ARE THE ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.UH, FIVE A IS PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST GRANTING A MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION TO CHAPTER 62 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR UDR LOCATED AT 3,800 SPRING VALLEY ROAD.
IN ORDER TO FOLLOW A 300 IN ORDER TO ALLOW A 391 SQUARE FOOT MURAL ON THE WEST FACADE CASE, MR 2024 DASH ZERO FIVE SLASH 3,800 SPRING VALLEY ROAD, UDR LESLIE, LESLIE KNIGHT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
UM, THIS REQUEST IS A MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION, UH, FOR OUR SIGN ORDINANCE, UH, LOCATED AT VITRUVIAN PARK, WHICH IS, UH, OWNED AND OPERATED BY UDR.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR, UM, REQUEST IS SPECIFIC TO A MURAL TO BE LOCATED ON THE SIDE OF AN EXISTING, UH, TWO STORY MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURE AT SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE AREA, UH, OF VITRUVIAN PARK.
THAT'S DESIGNATED AS ADDISON APARTMENTS AT THE PARK OAKWOOD, UM, WHICH IS VISIBLE FROM SPRING VALLEY ROAD AND GENERALLY LOCATED BEHIND THE EXISTING, UM, BROOKHAVEN SHOPPING CENTER WHERE, UH, UH, TOM THUMB IS.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, HERE'S THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED 390 SQUARE FOOT MURAL.
UM, IT WOULD BE LOCATED ON AN EXISTING BLANK FACADE, UM, AND WOULD OCCUPY, UH, GENERALLY THE AREA, UH, LOCATED BETWEEN THE TWO WINDOWS AS SEEN ON THIS PHOTO.
UH, THIS IS THE IMAGE OF THE PROPOSED MURAL, UH, WHICH IS TECHNICALLY, UH, UNDER OUR SIGN CODE DEFINED AS AN ATTACHED SIGN.
HOWEVER, UM, THIS MURAL IS NOT NECESSARILY COMMERCIAL IN NATURE, WHICH IS WHY THE MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION WAS SUBMITTED.
UH, SO THIS SIGN DOES AT 391 SQUARE FEET DOES EXCEED THE, UM, MAXIMUM AREA FOR AN ATTACHED SIGN.
HOWEVER, IT IS CONSIDERED ART SINCE IT IS, UH, NOT COMMERCIAL IN NATURE.
THE MURAL, UH, PROVIDES A NICE IMAGE OF SOME ADDISON FEATURES NEARBY, INCLUDING THE, UM, PONTE AVENUE BRIDGE AND VITRUVIAN PARK.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THE CRITERIA FOR A MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION, UM, USED IN THIS SCENARIO IS ON THE BASIS THAT WHILE IT IS CONSIDERED A SIGN UNDER OUR SIGN CODE, CURRENTLY, IT DOES CONSTITUTE ART AND MAKES A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO THE VISUAL ENVIRONMENT.
UM, STAFF DOES BELIEVE THAT THIS PROPOSAL DOES MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION AS IT IS, UM, OCCUPYING A OTHERWISE BLANK WALL AND IT IS REPRESENTING OTHER OR ELEMENTS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, ONCE AGAIN IN INCLUDING THE PONTE AVENUE BRIDGE IN VITRUVIAN PARK.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST.
QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE? IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE.
THANK YOU DAN AND DARREN FOR THE SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ITEM FOUR, FIVE A IS APPROVED.
[b. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving a Letter of Intent to execute a Purchase Order with Metro Fire to purchase a Fire apparatus (Tiller) in an amount not to exceed $2,776,000.00. ]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE B PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING A LETTER OF INTENT TO EXECUTE A PURCHASE ORDER WITH METRO FIRE TO PURCHASE A FIRE APPARATUS TILLER IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,776,000.DAVID JONES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, DAVID JONES, FIRE CHIEF.
UH, IT'S AN HONOR TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT A TIMELY RECOMMENDATION TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT STYLE OF LADDER TRUCK THAN YOU'VE SEEN IN ADDISON BEFORE.
I'D LIKE TO START OUT BY CREDITING MY STAFF.
THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK FOR THIS AND, UH, ESPECIALLY CAPTAIN MATT FERGUSON, WHO'S HERE TONIGHT.
UH, ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MAKE US SAFER, EFFECTIVE, AND EFFICIENT.
SO TO START OUT WITH, I'D LIKE TO EXPLAIN ABOUT OUR CURRENT LADDER TRUCK THAT WE HAVE.
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IS A 2017 SUTFIN A HUNDRED FOOT AERIAL PLATFORM.IT'S STAFFED WITH THREE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, A CAPTAIN, A DRIVER, AND A FIREFIGHTER.
IT DOES HAVE SOME URBAN DEVELOPMENT CHALLENGES THAT WE NAVIGATE, WE'RE USED TO, AND IT'S DUE TO BE REPLACED IN FISCAL YEAR 28.
IT WAS PURCHASED IN OCTOBER, 2016 FOR 1.2 MILLION.
IT HAS A 1500 GPM PUMP WITH A 300 GALLON WATER TANK.
AND THE ONLY REASON I MENTION THAT IS BECAUSE THE OTHER TRUCK I'LL SHOW YOU HAS THE EXACT SAME.
OUR GOAL IS TO ARRIVE AND GET POSITION TO SET UP FOR OPERATIONS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE FOR SEARCH, RESCUE, OR FIRE ATTACK.
WE'RE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH MANEUVERABILITY AND ACCESS CHALLENGES.
A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL MAKE THREE POINT TURNS, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU.
WE HAVE A POLICY THAT REQUIRES A BACKER, A BACKER ANYTIME THAT WE DO BACKUP.
THERE ARE MORE URBAN CITIES WITH LESS CHALLENGES THAN WE HAVE THAT SEE A GREAT BENEFIT IN WHAT'S CALLED A TRACTOR DRAWN AERIAL, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE WHY WE ARE DISCUSSING AN FY 28 PURCHASE.
NOW THE LEAD TIMES FOR THESE LADDER TRUCKS ARE 24 TO 52 MONTHS OUT DEPENDING ON THE MANUFACTURER.
WE HAVE A VENDOR THAT HAS THE BEST LEAD TIMES WE HAVE FOUND.
THIS IS SIGNIFICANT AND IT'S A SIGNIFICANT REASON THAT WE'VE GONE WITH THIS VENDOR.
WE HAVE ON ORDER OUR PUMPER AND ALSO A QUINT THAT WE HAVE ORDERED.
AND AS A SMALL DEPARTMENT THAT ORDERS A LITTLE LESS FREQUENTLY FROM SOME OF THESE BIG BUSINESSES THAT ARE 52 MONTHS OUT, WE HAVE A LITTLE LESS LEVERAGE.
NOW, A LETTER OF INTENT HAS BEEN VERY COMMON IN PRACTICE IN ORDERING APPARATUS SINCE COVID.
THAT'S JUST GETTING YOUR NAME IN THE QUEUE SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE, GET, GET PRODUCTION STARTED ON YOUR APPARATUS.
IT HOLDS A SPOT TO MAKE THE PURCHASE.
THE NEW LADDER TRUCK THAT I'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU IS CALLED A TRACTOR DRAWN AERIAL.
IT'S A TILLER AND I SAY NEW, BUT THIS HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE THE 18 HUNDREDS.
THIS IS THE MOST UNIQUE AND VERSATILE FIRE APPARATUS IN THE NATIONAL FIRE SERVICE.
AND LIKE I SAID, IT HAS A LONG HISTORY DATING BACK TO THE 18 HUNDREDS.
IT'S RECOGNIZED AS THE MOST FAMOUS PIECE OF MACHINERY WHEN PEOPLE THINK OF THE ICONIC FIRETRUCK.
IT'S THE MOST MANEUVERABLE AREA APPARATUS AVAILABLE.
IT'S BUILT FOR NARROW STREETS, TRAFFIC CIRCLES, PARKED CARS, CUL-DE-SACS TRAFFIC PROJECTS.
IT'S ABLE TO NAVIGATE URBAN DEVELOPMENT WITH TIGHT ACCESS TO APARTMENT COMPLEXES, CONDOS OFFICES AND CAMPUSES.
THE TRACTOR JOHN AERIALS ARTICULATED DESIGN WITH A SEPARATE CAB FOR THE DRIVER.
A TILLER OPERATOR, OFTENTIMES A TDA IS CALLED A TILLER, A TRA TRACTOR.
DAWN ARIEL, A NICKNAME IS A TILLER.
SO I USE THOSE INTERCHANGEABLY THAT YOU HAVE A DRIVER AT THE REAR.
THAT PRO PROVIDES SUPERIOR MANEUVERABILITY AND TIGHT CONGESTED URBAN STREETS.
IT CAN NAVIGATE SHARP TURNS AND NARROW ALLEYS MORE EFFECTIVELY THAN A PLATFORM STYLE APPARATUS.
ADDISON'S DENSITY HAS CHANGED A LOT OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS.
IT WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGE OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
NOT ONLY VERTICAL BUILDINGS, BUT ALSO MORE VEHICLES AND SHORTER SETBACKS TO SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS.
THERE'S MORE COMPARTMENT SPACE AND MORE GROUND LADDERS AVAILABLE WITH EASIER ACCESS TO TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT AND FASTER SETUP TIME.
WHEN THE OUTRIGGERS, WHICH IS THE, THEY, THEY THE PART THAT COMES OUT TO SET UP A STABILITY FOR AN AERIAL APPARATUS.
THE OUTRIGGERS ARE 16 FEET ON THIS, WHERE CURRENTLY THEY'RE 18 FEET ON OUR TRUCK.
THESE TDAS FEATURES MORE COMPARTMENT SPACE FOR EQUIPMENT AND TOOLS.
A ACCOMMO ACOM ACCOMMODATING DIVERSE NEEDS FOR AN URBAN FIRE DEPARTMENT WITHOUT SACRIFICING ANY ESSENTIAL GEAR.
LIKE I SAID MORE GROUND LADDERS.
THINK ABOUT ALL THE COURTYARD ACCESS THAT WE HAVE ON THESE APARTMENTS.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE GROUND LADDERS IN THERE TO SET UP.
TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT ARE ALSO STORED MUCH LOWER AT, AT NORMAL, AT A BODY HEIGHT.
BETTER, BETTER FOR, UH, BODY MECHANICS.
THERE'S BETTER TRAFFIC VISIBILITY.
THAT PERSON IN THE BACK HAS GOOD VISIBILITY OF ANY UPCOMING TRAFFIC, CAN SEE OVERHEAD WIRES, HAS DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH THE DRIVER IN THE FRONT.
THERE'S A MINIMUM OF FOUR PERSON STAFFING FOR THIS VEHICLE BECAUSE OF THE REAR DRIVER ALSO.
THAT'S AN NFPA STANDARD, UH, FOUR PERSON STAFFING IN PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR MATRIX STAFFING STUDY.
THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT MODEL.
AND THEN ALSO THE TDA, IT'S 105 FOOT AERIAL AND IT'S ONE INCH TALLER THAN THE TRUCK THAT WE HAVE NOW.
IT'S 10 FEET LONGER, BUT IT'S TWO FEET SMALLER.
WHEN THE OUTRIGGERS ARE SET, SET OUT ON THE OUT THE, UH, SPAN AND STAFF RECOGNIZES BENEFITS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TDA VERSUS THE PLATFORM.
2.77 MILLION FOR A HUNDRED, 105 FOOT TDA WITH A 2028 DELIVERY TIME OR FY 2028 DELIVERY TIME.
IF WE MOVE FORWARD, WE WOULD'VE THE SAME DELIVERY TIME AS ORDERING THE PLATFORM, BETTER MANEUVERABILITY AND ACCESS INCREASED STORAGE, BETTER WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION, THE SAME PUMP AND THE SAME WATER CAPACITY.
SOME EXAMPLES, IF YOU WANT TO SEE, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU.
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TILLER THAT THEY'VE HAD.AND YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT, YOU SEE CARTON'S TILLER.
THEY JUST RECEIVED THAT IT WAS ORDERED FOUR YEARS AGO, AND COPPEL HAS ACTUALLY ORDERED THEIR, UH, THEY'VE ORDERED A TRACTOR DRAWN AERIAL LAST YEAR AT 2.3 MILLION, BUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE A PUMP.
THE ONE WE WOULD WANT TO DO WOULD INCLUDE A PUMP BY ORDERING LAST YEAR, THEY ALSO AVOIDED THE NEW 2027 EPA EMISSION REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING.
THIS IS ON MAIDEN COURT, FOURTH AREA.
THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF OUR CURRENT PLATFORM THAT WE HAVE NAVIGATING THIS, THIS, UH, CUL-DE-SAC ON MAIDEN COURT IN OAKS NORTH.
AS IT COMES THROUGH, YOU'LL HEAR THE BRAKES.
THEY HAVE TO TAP THE BRAKES QUITE A BIT, MAKING THIS TURN, BUT THIS IS AN ORDINARY TURN.
WE'RE USED TO THIS, WE'RE USED TO MAKING THESE TURNS.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THE CHALLENGE.
IF THERE WAS A VEHICLE PARKED THERE, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE MADE THAT.
NOW THEY HAVE A MAILBOX IN FRONT OF HIM.
SO HE'S CAUTIOUSLY, HE'S GOT HIS, HIS DRIVER LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW THERE.
AND AS HE TURNS, HIS REAR TIRES ARE GONNA GO UP ON THE CURB.
NOW HE'S MADE THE TURN THAT'S PRETTY COMMON IN THAT AREA.
THIS IS ON BREEDLOVE IN THE MERIDIAN SQUARE TOWN HOME AREA IN ADDISON CIRCLE.
YOU SEE THE VEHICLE THERE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S GONNA MAKE THE TURN.
NO PROBLEM MAKING A LEFT HAND.
THIS IS A 90 DEGREE TURN, BUT AS HE STARTS TO MAKE THE TURN, THE CAMERA SHOULD SHIFT TO THE FRONT OF THE VEHICLE AND YOU'LL SEE THAT HE IS UP AGAINST THE BUILDING.
AND SO NOW A PERSON HAS TO GET OUT AND BACK HIM UP OR BACK THE DRIVER UP TO MAKE THAT 90 DEGREE TURN.
AND THIS IS JUST TURNING INTO AN ALLEYWAY OFF PARKVIEW CIRCLE.
SO NOW I'LL SHOW YOU A VIDEO OF CARLTON'S NEW TILLER TRUCK, MAKING A 90 DEGREE TURN, NOT SLOWING DOWN OR NOT STOPPING.
AND YOU'LL SEE THE, THE REAR WHEELS WILL STEER AWAY FROM THE POLE BECAUSE THAT REAR DRIVER CAN SEE THAT THERE'S MIRRORS HANGING OFF THE SIDE.
SO YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING ON THE GROUND.
AND THEY MAKE THAT TURN CLEARLY WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A THREE POINT TURN WITHOUT STOPPING, WITHOUT ANYBODY HAVING TO GET OUT AND NAVIGATE THAT.
THAT'S WHY WE SEE THE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
SO FINALLY, BEFORE TAKING ANY QUESTIONS, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE REQUESTING THE APPROVAL FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN A LETTER OF INTENT TO PURCHASE THIS IN 2028 IN FY 2028 FOR $2.77 MILLION.
THIS VEHICLE HERE THAT YOU SEE IS, UH, SAN MARCUS'S TRUCK.
IT'S ALMOST THE EXACT SAME SETUP FOR WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF I CAN.
NANCY? YES, I HAVE JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
UM, WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE VEHICLE, WITH THE TRUCK THAT'S RETIRING? WE, WITH THE TRUCK THAT'S RETIRING, WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR TRUCK? THAT WILL BE, WE CAN EITHER AUCTION IT, UH, IF THEY OFFER A TRADE IN, WE CAN TRY TO GET A TRADE IN FOR THE VEHICLE, BUT TYPICALLY WE AUCTION IT OFF.
IF WE HAD THE ABILITY TO STORE IT, I WOULD ASK TO STORE IT AND HAVE IT AS A BACKUP, HAVE IT AS A RESERVE TRUCK, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO STORE IT.
THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC IF WE DID.
SO PROBABLY IT WILL GO TO AUCTION, PROBABLY.
SO THE, THE CURRENT TRUCK WAS PURCHASED IN 2018.
THE CURRENT TRUCK WAS PURCHASED IN 2016.
BUT IT WAS PURCHASED IN OCTOBER OF 2016.
GENERALLY THEY HAVE 10 YEAR LIVES.
THEY USED TO HAVE A 12 YEAR LIFESPAN.
IT'S 10 YEARS FRONTLINE AND THEN TWO YEARS THEY CAN HAVE 'EM AS A RESERVE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A RESERVE.
WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A RESERVE TRUCK.
SO IT'S TIME TO REPLACE IT IN 2028.
IS THAT THE SAME USEFUL LIFE ON THIS ONE? THE NEW, UH, THIS WOULD BE A 10, ABOUT 10 YEARS IT'D BE FRONTLINE.
AND IF WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A RESERVE, WE COULD USE IT THAT WAY.
SO IF WE GOT THE SAME, UH, TRUCK AS WE HAVE NOW, WHAT WOULD, IS THAT THE 2.3 MILLION THAT YOU SHOWED UP THERE? IF, IF WE WERE TO ORDER A PLATFORM, THE, THE ONE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS A MID MOUNT PLA PLATFORM.
WE WERE LOOKING AT A REAR MOUNT PLATFORM, WHICH MEANS THE BUCKET HANGS OFF THE FRONT OF THE TRUCK.
AND WHAT THIS IS 2.7 MILLION AND IT'S A L THE WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION'S BETTER.
AND I, I EXPLAINED THAT THE MANEUVERABILITY IS A LOT BETTER.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A COOL LOOKING MACHINE.
THE, THE AUCTION TERM YOU USED, EDUCATE ME ABOUT THAT.
IS, IS THIS STANDARD PRACTICE BEEN GOING ON FOR GENERATIONS? AND WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED VALUE OF OUR TRUCK IF IT GOES TO AUCTION? THAT'S TYPICALLY DONE THROUGH GENERAL SERVICES.
UH, THEY DO THE RENEE BATES AUCTION.
UH, IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VALUE OF IT WOULD BE.
IT COULD BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND, BUT IT'S STANDARD PRACTICE IS NOT, THIS IS STANDARD, STANDARD PRACTICE.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH ALL OF OUR, UH, EXPIRED APPARATUS, ALL OF OUR APPARATUS THAT WE REPLACED.
SO WITH, WITH THE COMING GROWTH OF SOME MORE OF THE HIGH RISES WITH
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TOD COMING, THIS IS PROBABLY A REALLY WISE INVESTMENT.UH, HEY, CHIEF, UH, IS THIS SPARTAN? IS THAT THE BRAND? YES, SIR.
AND, AND ARE WE BUYING THIS THROUGH A COOPERATIVE? YES, THROUGH METRO FIRE IS WHO WE'RE GOT IT.
AND, UH, YEAH, CHIEF, I THINK IT MAKES JUST SO MUCH SENSE TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF VEHICLE BECAUSE WE HAVE, WE HAVE SO MANY TIGHT NEIGHBORHOODS IN ADDISON, SO I THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
UH, QUICK QUESTION ABOUT, UM, STAFFING.
DOES THIS GIVE, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL PROMOTIONAL, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR FIREFIGHTERS TO BECOME THAT TILLER DRIVER? IT COULD BE, UH, IT COULD BE A, A PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITY.
IT DEFINITELY WOULD BE INTERNALLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MAYOR? I, I'VE GOT MORE OF A THOUGHT THAN A QUESTION, BUT I THINK THESE VIDEOS WERE SUPER, SUPER HELPFUL.
IT WAS DONE DURING THE DAY, BUT IMAGINE IF, IF, IF YOU HAD TO DO THAT AT NIGHT, JUST EVEN, WE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD DRONE FOOTAGE.
BUT THE PROBLEM WAS THE TREES, THE FOLIAGE WAS SO GOOD THAT YOU COULDN'T, I MEAN, I JUST, I'M, I'M THINKING WHEN SECONDS MATTER, YOU KNOW? YES.
THEY NEED TO NAVIGATE QUICKLY.
AND SO THIS IS, UH, FOR THE LETTER OF INTENT, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
IS THERE A MOTION? I WOULD, UH, THANK YOU CHRIS
WAS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND IT.
IS WE HAVE MOTION TO SECOND? IS THERE A ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THAT ITEM IS APPROVED.
[c. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving a construction services agreement with Ratliff Hardscapes, Ltd. for the Redding Trail Dog Park and Extension to Midway Road Project, and authorize the City Manager to execute the agreement in an amount not to exceed $611,693.00.]
TO FIVE C PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CON, A CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH RATLIFF HARDSCAPES LIMITED FOR THE REDING TRAIL DOG PARK AND EXTENSION TO MIDWAY ROAD PROJECT.AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $611,693.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UH, CHANDLER NPE, UH, A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WITH THE, UH, PARKS DEPARTMENT.
UM, THE ITEM I'M BRINGING BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH RATLIFF HARDSCAPE LTD FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE REDING TRAIL DOG PARK AND EXTENSION TO MIDWAY ROAD, AND TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT.
UH, AS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, UH, ON THE PROJECT, THE REDING TRAIL EXTENSION TO MIDWAY ROAD WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED IN THE CITYWIDE TRAILS MASTER PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2021 TO CONNECT THE EXISTING REDING TRAIL LOOP TO THE SIDEWALK ALONG MIDWAY ROAD TO THE EAST.
SO COUNCIL APPROVED FUNDS TO BE ALLOCATED FOR THE PROJECT DURING THE FY 2024 BUDGET PROCESS.
AND AMWAY RESIDENTIAL DONATED SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO BE USED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DOG PARK ENHANCEMENTS ADJACENT TO THEIR TREE HOUSE PHASE ONE DEVELOPMENT IN JANUARY OF 2024.
TOWN STAFF BEGAN WORKING INTERNALLY ON THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THE PROJECT, WHICH WENT OUT FOR BID IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR.
FOLLOWING THE RECEIPT OF FIVE BIDS, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE MET AND SUBSEQUENTLY DETERMINED THAT RATLIFF HARDSCAPE LTD IS THE BEST VALUE CONTRACTOR WITH A BID OF $611,693.
THIS WAS THE LOW BID AND IS IN LINE WITH THE PROJECT BUDGET.
UM, THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE ENCORE EASEMENT ALONG MIDWAY ROAD BETWEEN BELTWAY DRIVE AND PROTON ROAD AT THE CURRENT REDDING TRAIL DOG PARK SITE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROJECT WILL CONSIST OF A CONCRETE TRAIL SEGMENT THAT WILL CONNECT THE EXISTING REDDING TRAIL AND THE NEW MIDWAY ROAD TRAIL, TWO RETAINING WALLS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO RESPOND TO THE SITE'S GRADING, AND A NEW NON-CONDUCTIVE FENCE FOR THE DOG PARK THAT WILL TAKE THE PLACE OF THE EXISTING, UH, CHAIN LINK FENCE.
SO THE CURRENT FENCE ON SITE IMPEDES THE TRAIL CONNECTION AND THEREFORE MUST BE REMOVED TO ALLOW THE TRAIL TO CONNECT THROUGH TO MIDWAY ROAD.
SINCE THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE EXISTING METAL CHAIN LINK FENCE, ENCORE IS UPDATED THEIR DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR ALLOWED MATERIALS WITHIN THEIR EASEMENTS, AND THEY NOW PROHIBIT THE USE OF METAL FENCING TO COMPLY WITH CURRENT ENCORE STANDARDS.
A NON-CONDUCTIVE RECYCLED PLASTIC DIMENSIONAL LUMBER FENCE MATERIAL WILL BE USED RATHER THAN A CHAIN LINK, UH, MATERIAL.
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UM, THE CON UH, THE CONTRACTOR, UH, PROCUREMENT PROPOSAL PROCESS AIMS TO SELECT THE BEST VALUE CONTRACTOR FOR THE TOWN BASED ON GIVEN CRITERIA, WHICH IN THIS CASE, UH, INCLUDE THE OVERALL CONTRACT PRICE, THE CONTRACTOR'S REFERENCES AND QUALIFICATIONS BASED ON PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE, THE OVERVIEW OF THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE AND THE OVERALL DURATION OF CONSTRUCTION.WITH THESE CRITERIA IN MIND, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE MET TO DISCUSS AND SCORE EACH PROPOSAL IN EACH CATEGORY WITH AN OVERALL SCORE OF 92.4 OUT OF A HUNDRED.
LTD HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE THE BEST VALUE CONTRACTOR.
UM, DURING CONSTRUCTION, A TEMPORARY DOG PARK WILL BE ESTABLISHED IN THE PARK AT THE CORNER OF MARSH LANE AND BELTWAY ROAD TO GIVE RESIDENTS A PLACE TO TAKE THEIR DOG DURING CONSTRUCTION.
PARKING FOR THE TEMPORARY DOG PARK WILL BE AT THE LAY LOCKS PARK AS SHOWN IN THE MAP.
AND AT THIS TIME, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH RATLIFF HARDSCAPE LTD FOR THE REDING TRAIL DOG PARK AND EXTENSION TO MIDWAY ROAD PROJECT, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $611,693.
AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
UH, THE TEMPORARY DOG PARK AT MARSH AND BELTWAY IS AN, AN ESTIMATED COST OF WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE TO TEMPORARILY CONSTRUCT SOMETHING TO CONTAIN DOGS, OR IS IT OPEN? UM, SO I'M NOT ENTIRELY CERTAIN ON THE, UH, OVERALL COST FOR THAT.
UM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UH, IT'S A FAIRLY MINIMAL COST.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE UP AT SPROUL DOG PARK, UM, FOR THE SPROOL PARK DRAINAGE PROJECT.
UM, BUT THAT COST IS FAIRLY MINIMAL.
UM, JUST CURIOUS, YOU MADE, UM, YOU MADE REFERENCE TO A EVALUATION COMMITTEE.
WHO IS THAT? SO THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF MEMBERS OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, UM, MYSELF AND JOE PACK.
UM, ALSO INCLUDED WERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UM, WHICH WAS, UM, TODD, UH, UH, TODD AND PATRICK DIY.
UM, AND, UH, JOEL, UH, NO, NOT JOEL, UH, JOHN, UH, ELIA, UH, JOHN ELIAS.
AND ALSO THE, UM, FENCE MATERIAL LOOKED INTERESTING.
UM, WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THIS FENCE ANYWHERE IN TOWN ALREADY.
UM, SO AS OF, I BELIEVE A FEW WEEKS AGO WE DID INSTALL, UH, A FENCE WITH THIS MATERIAL ALONG THE VITRUVIAN TRAIL.
UH, RIGHT AT THE VILLAS AT FIORI.
I DID BRING A SAMPLE OF THE MATERIAL.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE INTERESTED IN TAKING A LOOK AT.
SO IT'S A, A PLASTIC RECYCLED MATERIAL THAT, UM, FULLY MEETS WITH ENCORE'S, UH, UPDATED STANDARDS.
OH, THE APPEARANCE LOOKS NICE.
THE QUESTIONS, UH, DARREN, I'D ASKED, UH, SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT ARE, UH, UH, ADDED TO THE AGENDA.
AND, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT USE THAT PARK, UH, WOULD PROBABLY BE INTERESTED IN THOSE QUESTIONS LIKE, UM, SHADE STRUCTURES AND, UH, SEEDING, UH, IN THE, IN THE PARK AS IT'S, UH, REBUILT.
AND THEN WHAT, WHAT DOES THE REBUILT CYCLE LOOK LIKE ON THE PARK? BECAUSE IT, IT INCLUDES AMLI AS WELL, AND THAT'S PROBABLY SOME DESCRIPTION OF THAT WOULD BE USEFUL.
UM, YEAH, TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT THE PARK IS GOING TO BE, UM, IT IS FUNCTIONING IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOME PROPERTY THAT AM, EMILY IS GOING OR IS IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING OUT AND WILL DONATE.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE THESE PLANS THAT WE CAN SHARE AT THIS TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT BY AM, EMILY.
BUT IT WILL INCLUDE, UH, A SHADE STRUCTURE, UM, AND SOME NICE TREES ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PARK TO GIVE SOME ADDITIONAL SHADE.
UM, BUT THOSE WILL BE OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT, AND WE'LL BE FORTHCOMING, UM, AFTER THE
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COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT, UM, TO SPEAK ABOUT SEEDING, UM, WE'RE REMOVING THE CURRENT SEATING AND STORING THAT OFFSITE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO REINSTALL IT.SO THERE WILL BE NO LOSS TO, UM, SEATING AND IT WILL BE OF A SIMILAR, UM, STYLE.
IT WILL BE OF THE SAME STYLE THAT IT CURRENTLY IS.
UM, AND THEN TO SPEAK ABOUT THE OVERALL, UM, CHANGE TO THE DOG PARK, UM, IN ORDER TO KEEP THE SIZES OF THE DOG PARK SIMILAR, WE HAD TO EXPAND, UM, TO THE EAST.
UM, THERE WERE SOME CONSTRAINTS TO THE WEST THAT WE WANTED TO WATCH OUT FOR, UM, INCLUDING, UH, CONFLICTS WITH, UH, WITH ENCORE, UM, AND ONE OF THEIR LARGE, UH, POLES IN THAT LOCATION, AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.
UM, AND THEY'RE VERY, VERY TOUCHY ABOUT THAT.
SO, UH, WE WANTED TO STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM THAT AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND WE DID HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL ROOM TO THE EAST THAT WE WERE ABLE TO EXPAND AND TO THE NORTH, UM, RIGHT UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOOTAGES FOR THE PARK ARE GOING TO REMAIN, UH, THE SAME, IF NOT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ON ON THE SQUARE ON THE SIZE OF THE PARK WAS IT WAS GONNA INCREASE BY OVER A THOUSAND FEET SQUARE FEET.
SO I, I WAS, I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY POSITIVE FOR THE USERS OF THAT PARK.
AND, UM, SO YOU CAN'T PUT SHADE STRUCTURES, UH, ON THE ENCORE EASEMENT.
THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO SHADE IN THAT PARK.
UM, SO ENCORE IS, UM, AS I'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE OTHER TIMES, VERY TOUCHY ABOUT WHAT GOES ON WITHIN THEIR EASEMENT.
UM, THEY'RE VERY WORRIED ABOUT ANYTHING METAL AND ANYTHING, UM, EXCEEDING A CERTAIN HEIGHT, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE IS 10 FEET.
UM, AND EVEN AT THAT HEIGHT, THEY'RE VERY TOUCHY ABOUT WHERE THAT'S PLACED, UM, BECAUSE OF THOSE OVERHEAD LINES AND THE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY THAT'S RUNNING THROUGH THERE.
UM, THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ANYTHING BEING BUILT, UM, THAT ALSO GOES FOR TREES.
THEY'RE VERY, UM, ANTIT TREE WITHIN THEIR EASEMENT.
SO WE'VE, UH, WORKED WITH AMLI, UM, TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE TO TRY AND PROVIDE SOME SHADE FROM TREES TO THE NORTH.
SO WHAT'S THE FUTURE OF, OF THAT TRAIL AS IT GOES INTO MIDWAY? SO AS THAT TRAIL GOES INTO MIDWAY, IT, IT MAKES THAT CONNECTION AND, UM, I BELIEVE IT, IT SERVES TO CREATE KIND OF A LOOP AND ALLOWS, UM, RESIDENTS TO, TO FULLY UTILIZE THAT.
AND AS DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES, IT WILL, IT WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE THE REST OF, IS THERE A PLAN OR CO COORDINATION WITH FARMERS BRANCH TO CROSS MIDWAY WITH THE TRAIL? IS THAT PART OF, OR IS THERE ANY, ANY ANYTHING HAPPENING THERE AT THIS TIME? THERE'S NOT ANYTHING HAPPENING WITH THAT.
IT HAS BEEN BRIEFLY DISCUSSED INTERNALLY THAT THAT WOULD BE A VERY IDEAL SITUATION.
UM, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS AT THIS POINT.
JUST TWO QUICK QUESTIONS, SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PLANTING TREES AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE GONNA BE MORE TOWARDS WHAT, LIKE TOWARDS MIDWAY AS, UM, LIKE STREET TREES OR, SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE TO THE NORTH OF WHERE THE DOG PARK RUNS, UM, MORE TOWARDS THE AMWAY PROPERTY? YES.
UM, JUST NORTH, UM, OF THE BLUE LINE THERE IS WHERE THOSE TREES WILL SIT, UM, AND THEY SERVE AS SHADE FOR THE PARKING, BUT ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF SHADE, UM, ON THE DOG PARK SIDE.
AND THEN I KNOW THERE'S WATER THERE FOR THE, FOR THE DOGS.
IS, IS THERE GONNA BE A WATER FOUNTAIN FOR HUMANS? SO THERE ARE WATER FOUNTAINS STATIONED ALONG THE REDDING TRAIL AND RIGHT, BUT THE, YEAH, GO AHEAD.
UM, BUT THERE ARE NONE, UM, WITHIN THE PARK AT THIS TIME.
UM, IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS PROVIDED BEFORE AND WE FELT THE PROXIMITY OF THE, UH, FOUNTAINS FURTHER TO THE WEST, UM, AT THEIR EXISTING LOCATIONS WAS SUFFICIENT.
WOULD IT BE HARD TO PUT A WATER FOUNTAIN IN THE PARKS HAVE WATER FOUNTAINS FOR THE DOGS? BOTH PARKS DO? I'M TALKING, I'M TALKING ABOUT A, A DRINKING FOUNTAIN.
I CAN BEND AND I GUESS WE COULD, BUT YEAH, WELL, JUST A THOUGHT.
I MEAN, 'CAUSE I KNOW WHERE THE NEAREST WATER FOUNTAIN IS AND YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY WILL PARK IN, IN THAT AMWAY AREA TO TAKE THEIR DOG RATHER THAN TAKING THE TRAIL PAST THE WATER FOUNTAIN AND IT, IT WOULD JUST BE A THOUGHT, I DON'T KNOW HOW HARD IT WOULD BE TO ADD A, A WATER FOUNTAIN, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
WE'LL DEFINITELY, UH, TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
YEAH, NO, I, I JUST WANNA ECHO THAT THOUGHT.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT, GREAT IDEA AND, UM, GONNA BE NEEDED.
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ONE OF THE THINGS I'M LOOKING AT IS THE, UH, THE TEMPORARY DOG PARK AND, AND, UM, THE, MAYBE THE TEMPORARY PARKING I CAN, I CAN SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE OR SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA USE THIS TEMPORARY PARK AND I REALIZE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT 156 DAYS OR SO, BUT I COULD JUST SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST PARKING OVER AT TARGET.UM, DO WE, WE THOUGHT THROUGH THAT ABOUT, UH, WHAT WE MIGHT DO OR SIGNAGE, UM, IF WE CAUSE PEOPLE TO PARK IN THE PRIVATE BUSINESS PARKING, UM, TO SPEAK TO THAT, I BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE SOME SIGNAGE AND WE WILL ALSO BE, UM, UH, WHEN THAT TEMPORARY DOG PARK COMES ONLINE, WE'LL LET PEOPLE KNOW THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND SOME OF THOSE TYPICAL WAYS, UH, UM, THAT THE PREFERRED PARKING PLACE IS AT LAY LOCKS PARK.
UM, AND IF PEOPLE ARE COMING UP FROM THE REDDING TRAIL, WHICH WOULD CONNECT TO KIND OF WHERE THE EXISTING DOG PARK IS, UM, THEY WOULD BE PASSING RIGHT BY THAT PARKING.
SO IT MAY BE THE KIND OF THING THAT CAN BE HANDLED BY SIGNAGE AND, AND TRYING TO HELP THEM, UM, FIND WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.
UM, THE, UH, PARKING AT TARGET, UM, IS KIND OF DOWN A, UH, EMBANKMENT THERE.
SO I, I THINK THAT PEOPLE MAY ATTEMPT THAT ONCE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A VERY COMFORTABLE, UM, TRANSITION TO THAT PARK.
UM, AND SO I, I THINK IT MAY NOT BE A POPULAR OPTION.
SO, UH, JUST TO JUMP IN ON THE TEMPORARY DOG PARK, 'CAUSE WITHOUT LONG IN THE PARKS GROUP, LOOK AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR THE TEMPORARY DOG PARK.
THERE WASN'T A PERFECT SOLUTION, AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE, LOOKED AT OTHER PLACES ON REDDING TRAIL, LOOKED AT OTHER LOCATIONS.
THIS REALLY ENDED, THIS KIND OF WAS A CONSENSUS, THE BEST LOCATION.
AND SO I THINK SIGNAGE IS GONNA DO A LOT THERE.
A SIGNAGE AT THE DOG PARK SIGNAGE OUT IN FRONT OF IT.
CERTAINLY COMMUNICATION LEADING UP TO IT THROUGH ALL OF OUR COMMUNICATION MECHANISMS. BUT YEAH, WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF SIGNAGE AND UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK ALSO A LOT OF THE FOLKS WALK JUST FROM THEIR HOMES, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO AND PARK, THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH PARKING AT THE DOG PARK AS, AS IT EXISTS NOW.
SO A LOT OF FOLKS WILL JUST BE WALKING AND MAYBE A LONGER WALK FOR SOME FOLKS, BUT, UM, HOPEFULLY THE WEATHER'S NICE FOR THAT AS THEY GET OUT.
AND I WOULD JUST TO CIRCLE BACK TO THE WATER, UM, FOUNTAIN DISCUSSION, IT SHOULDN'T BE TROUBLE TO TURN THAT INTO A HUMAN WATER FOUNTAIN AS WELL.
HOWARD, THIS IS PROBABLY A DAVID QUESTION AND MAYBE I SHOULD ALREADY KNOW, BUT WHERE'S THE 611,000 COMING FROM? IS IT ALREADY IN THE BUDGET? IS IT IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET? I I JUST WANNA KNOW WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM.
IT'S ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.
JOE CAN GIVE SOME MORE SPECIFICS FOR IT.
I'M JOE P, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PARKS.
WE HAVE, UH, 550,000 BUDGETED OF THAT 100,000 IS FOR THE ACTUAL DOG PARK FROM AMLI, I'M SORRY, THE FENCE FROM AMLI.
AND THEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL 85,000.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 640.
AND THEN WE ARE, UH, SIGNING A CONTRACT FOR SIX 11.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME WIGGLE ROOM THERE.
SO, SO THE 550 THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT MONEY, WE WE'RE NOT BORROWING ANYTHING FOR THIS.
WE'RE NOT BORROWING ANYTHING AT ALL.
IT'S ALL BUDGETED MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN OUR POCKETS, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, TWO QUESTIONS AND, AND ANYONE CAN ANSWER THIS ABOUT THE PARKING SUGGESTION FOR ME WOULD BE TO USE THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CENTER PARKING LOT BECAUSE THE DISTANCE FROM THAT ACCESS POINT TO THE DOG PARK TEMPORARILY WOULD BE VERY CLOSE.
'CAUSE MY, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA PARK, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE STREET THAT RUNS PARALLEL INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA OR INTO THE LAY LOCKS PARKING.
SO THAT WOULD BE ONE SUGGESTING THE SECOND WAS ON THE NEW DOG PARK ITSELF.
WHERE ARE THE NEW PARKING SPACES? WASN'T THERE GONNA BE EIGHT OR 10 PARKING SPACES? I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE, IN THE RENDERING AT THE NEW DOG PARK.
THE NEW PARKING, YEAH, THE NEW PARKING AT THE NEW PARK.
UM, SO THE PARKING FOR THE DOG PARK, UM, WILL BE JUST NORTH OF THE BLUE, UH, DASHED LINE.
UM, SO THAT PARK, UH, THE PARKING WILL BE WITHIN AMWAY'S PROPERTY THERE, AND THERE WILL ALSO BE THE, THE FOUR SPOTS TO THE EAST, UM, OF THE BUMP UP, UH, THAT ARE, UH, THE EXISTING PARKING SPOTS.
OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION?
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MOTION TO APPROVE? THANK YOU, DAN.THANK YOU DARREN, FOR THE SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[d. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving a construction services agreement with Texas Standard Construction, Ltd. for Les Lacs Pond Improvements Phase 1, and authorizing the City Manager to execute the agreement in an amount not to exceed $5,231,847.68.]
ITEM FIVE D, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH TEXAS STANDARD CONSTRUCTION, LIMITED FOR LAC LAC POND IMPROVEMENTS, PHASE ONE, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5,231,847 AND 68 CENTS.JOE, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M JOE P, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PARKS.
I'M VERY PROUD TO COME AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH TEXAS STANDARD CONSTRUCTION THIS EVENING FOR PHASE ONE OF THE LAY LOCKS POND IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO DO THINGS JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU A BASE BID, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU AN ALTERNATE BID.
AND AT THE END OF THE DISCUSSION, WE ARE GOING TO ASK COUNSEL TO MAKE A DECISION WHETHER YOU WANT TO GO WITH A BASE BID OR THE ALTERNATE BID.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IN ADVANCE.
SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT KNOW THE PROJECT AS WELL AS OTHERS DO.
UH, THE PROJECT ACTUALLY STARTED IN NOVEMBER OF 2019 WHEN ADDISON VOTERS APPROVED PROPOSITION C BONDS, INCLUDING 3,282,110 FOR LAYLO PO IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, WESTER CONSULTANTS WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL TO DEVELOP PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR LAY LOCKS, POND AND LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS BASED ON VERY EXTENSIVE PUBLIC FEEDBACK PROCESS.
WERA UH, FINALIZED THE CDS TO BE ISSUED FOR COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSAL, AND THEN IN NOVEMBER OF 23, WE, UH, LAY LOCK'S POND IMPROVEMENTS.
PROPOSALS WERE OPENED AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE WERE NO BIDDERS.
WE THEN, UH, OPENED A SECOND ROUND OF PROPOSALS AFTER DOING A LOT OF HOMEWORK AND FINDING PEOPLE TO ATTEND THAT, UH, WERE REALLY IN THE POND BUSINESS.
AND THE ONLY PERSON THAT TURNED IN A PROPOSAL WAS TEXAS STANDARD CONSTRUCTION, AND THEY WERE THE ONLY ONE FOR THE PROJECT, AND THEIR BID WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THE, IN THE CONSULTANTS' OPINION OF PROBABLE COST.
SO THE FIRST THING THAT WE DID IN ORDER TO NEGOTIATE WITH TEXAS STANDARD WAS TO DEEM TEXAS STANDARD CONSTRUCTION'S PROPOSAL TO REPRESENT THE BEST VALUE TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON BASED ON THE PUBLISHED EVALUATION CRITERIA IN THE PROPOSAL.
AND AS A CONCLUSION TO THAT, STAFF HOSTED A PROJECT NEGOTIATION MEETING WITH TEXAS STANDARD CONSTRUCTION WESTRA CONSULTANTS AND TOWN STAFF, AND THE CONTRACTOR CITED SEVERAL CONDITIONS THAT HE BELIEVED THAT FORCED PRICING CONSIDERABLY ABOVE THE OPINION OF COST.
AND, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, AND, AND ONE THAT REALLY MAKES SENSE TO US IS THEY STATED THAT THERE IS A LARGE AVAILABILITY OF LESS COMPLICATED PROJECTS IN NORTH TEXAS REGION, AND THEY ALL HAVE HIGHER PROFIT MARGINS, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE.
THIS IS NOT AN EASY PROJECT, IT IS COMPLEX, AND WE UNDERSTAND IF, UH, THEY STATED IF THE PROJECT COULD BE RESTRUCTURED TO LIMIT THE CONTRACTOR'S TIME ON SITE, THERE WOULD BE A LABOR SAVINGS, REVISING ALMOST ALL OF THE RETAINING WALL DETAILS TO A SIMPLER INSTALLATION METHODOLOGY WOULD HELP TO REDUCE THE COST.
AND SO WE, WE DID THAT REVISING THE MAJOR EXCAVATION THAT WAS CURRENTLY, OR, OR WAS FORMERLY AT THE SOUTH END, AND, UH, DEEPENING CHANGING IT TO A METHODOLOGY WHERE WE'RE DEEPENING THE DEEPENING MORE IN THE NORTH END NEAR BELTWAY DRIVE.
THAT WOULD LIMIT THE, THE HAUL OFF ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHICH WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN TRUCKING COST.
CONTRACTOR ASKED IF THE PROJECT COULD BE SEPARATED INTO TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS AS PHASE ONE POND RELATED WORK IN PHASE TWO LANDSCAPE AND IRRIGATION RELATED WORK TO DECREASE THE TIME, THEIR TIME ON THE SITE FROM SIX MONTHS, UH, INSTEAD OF THE 10 TO 12 MONTHS TO BE ABLE TO DO BOTH PHASES OF THE PROJECT.
THIS PRESENTATION IS A FOLLOW UP TO OUR COUNCIL MEETING, APPROVING THE SCOPE OF, UH, AMENDMENT TO WESTRA TO DEVELOP THOSE TWO SETS OF PLANS FOR THOSE TWO PROJECT PHASES.
UH, THIS WAS A PROJECT NEGOTIATION MEETING WITH TEXAS STANDARD CONSTRUCTION, UH, THAT, UH, WE DID THAT AND THE PROJECT PHASES ARE AS FOLLOWS.
SO PHASE ONE IS A NEGOTIATED SCOPE.
IT IS NOT A BID, IT IS A NO NEGOTIATED SCOPE WITH TEXAS
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STANDARD, AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE DEEMED AS BEST VALUE DURING OUR PROCESS OF, UH, INTERPRETING THE COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSALS.AND SO CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PHASE IS BEING RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL IN TONIGHT'S MEETING.
UH, PHASE TWO IS BID USING A SEPARATE COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSAL PROCESS WITH A NEW, UH, WITH A NEW PROJECT FOR LANDSCAPE AND IRRIGATION WORK.
PROJECT WILL INCLUDE ALL ITEMS OF LANDSCAPE'S SCOPE AND WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AT THE END OF PHASE ONE WITH A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR WHO SPECIALIZES IN LANDSCAPE AND IRRIGATION.
AND SO I'M GONNA DEFER AWAY FROM SOME OF THE BACKGROUND AND WE'RE GONNA KIND OF LOOK AT SOME OF THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION AND PROJECT DETAILS FOR THE BASE BID.
SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT POND AERATION, WHICH IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, SO WHY DO WE AERATE? SOME OF THE REASONS WE AERATE IS TO REDUCE POND MUCK.
UH, THIS CAN BECOME PARTICULARLY, UH, MALODOROUS IN THE SUMMERTIME WHEN WE HAVE HOT STAGNANT DAYS.
AND SO THE AERATION WILL HELP TO SPRING THAT MUCK UP AND RECYCLE IT TO THE TOP AND THEN BACK THROUGH.
AND SO THAT REDUCES, UH, THAT AND ADDS OXYGEN TO THE WATER.
AERATION IMPROVES WATER QUALITY.
THE WA THE QUALITY OF THE WATER AND THE CLARITY OF THE WATER ARE BOTH IMPORTANT AFTER, UH, AS AFTER EFFECTS OF THE AERATION AERATION BOOST DISSOLVED OXYGEN LEVELS, WHICH IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
THE, UH, FISH MUST HAVE OXYGEN TO SURVIVE.
AND, UH, SO ONCE THIS IS, UH, IS TURNED OVER SEVERAL TIMES, THEN IT, IT PRODUCES A LOT OF OXYGEN IN THE WATER AND MAKES THE FISH VERY, VERY HAPPY.
AND, UH, AERATION ELIMINATES THERMO CLIMB.
THE THERMAL CLIMB AS IS DESCRIBED AS THAT SEPARATION OF WATER, THE WARMER WATER ON TOP AND THE COOLER WATER DOWN TO THE BOTTOM.
AND SO IT MIXES THE WATER UP, SO FOR AN EVEN TEMPERATURE, WHICH REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF ALGAE THAT YOU HAVE.
AND SO THAT'S A BENEFIT AS WELL.
AND THEN THE AERATION AS, UH, PARTICULARLY IN THE WINTERTIME REDUCES FISH KILL.
AND FISH KILL HAPPENS IN THE WINTER WHEN YOU HAVE DECOMPOSING MATERIALS THAT, UH, PRODUCE, UH, SOME, SOME HYDROGEN AND OTHER, UH, ELEMENTS THAT TAKE AWAY FROM THE OXYGEN IN THE POND.
AND SO, UH, VERY LIKELY IF YOU WERE TO HAVE A POND PARTIALLY FREEZE OVER OR COMPLETELY FREEZE OVER, WHICH IS RARE HERE, BUT IT, IT DOES HAPPEN.
AND THAT'S WHEN THOSE FISH KILLS START.
SO, UH, WE HAVE THAT BENEFIT AS WELL FROM THE AERATION.
SO WE HAVE, UH, THREE OF THE FOUNTAINS ON THE LEFT AND THEY ARE GOING TO REPLACE THE THREE THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
THIS IS THE OTTERBEIN AERATING FOUNTAIN COMET MODEL.
THEY'RE GONNA GO BASICALLY WHERE THE THREE FOUNTAINS, UH, RESIGN AS THEY ARE NOW.
THE COMET MODEL IS A FIVE HORSEPOWER.
IT HAS A FOUNTAIN HEIGHT OF 21 TO 23 FEET, AND A WIDTH OF APPROXIMATELY EIGHT FEET, AND THE GALLONS PER MINUTE IS 325.
AND THEN ON YOUR RIGHT SIDE, YOU SEE EXAMPLES OF OTTERBINE HIGH VOLUME AERATION UNITS.
UH, THEY ARE, UH, BOTH OF THESE UNITS HAVE LIGHT KITS ON THEM, SO THEY WILL BE VISIBLE AT NIGHT AND, AND SHOULD BE VERY, VERY ATTRACTIVE.
THE, UH, HIGH VOLUME AERATORS, THERE ARE TWO OF THOSE.
SO WE'LL HAVE A TOTAL OF FIVE AERATORS IN THE FOUNTAIN IN THE POND, I'M SORRY.
AND, UH, THE OTTERBEIN, I'M SORRY, THE HIGH VOLUME AERATION UNIT HAS A HEIGHT OF ABOUT 4.5 FEET IN A WIDTH OF 11, AND IT HAS GALLONS PER MINUTE OF 3000.
SO THESE THINGS ARE THE HIGHEST VOLUME AERATORS ON THE MARKET TODAY, AND OTTERBEIN IS AN EXCELLENT PROVIDER OF AERATORS.
AND THEN MOVING OVER TO JUST A BRIEF DISCUSSION ON FLOOD PREVENTION.
WE HAVE, UH, THIS IS WAYSIDE COURT LOOKING EAST, AND AS YOU CAN SEE BETWEEN THE TWO CREPE MYRTLES AND WHERE THE SHRUBS ARE, UH, THE GROUND, THE TOPOGRAPHY COMES KIND OF DOWN TO THE AREA BEHIND WHERE THOSE CREPE MYRTLES AND THE SHRUBS ARE.
AND, UH, WHEN WE HAVE EXTENSIVE FLOODING, WE HAVE KNOWN WATER TO OVERFLOW INTO THIS CUL-DE-SAC AND MAKE ITS WAY DOWN TO THE AVAILABLE STORM SEWAGE, WHICH IS NOT TOO FAR DOWN, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY AN INCONVENIENCE.
SO TO HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS OF OUR PROJECT ARE AND TO MAKE SURE
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THAT WE ARE PROVIDING IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE SAFE TO THE NEIGHBORS, WE HIRED HALF AN ASSOCIATES TO DO SOME FLOOD MODELING AND FLOOD STUDIES FOR US.AND SO THEY DID A FLOOD STUDY BASED ON THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
AND, UH, WHAT YOU CAN'T READ BECAUSE IT'S SO SMALL ON THEIR MAP, IS THE PROPOSED POND IMPROVEMENTS WILL ELIMINATE EXISTING FLOODING SHOWN IN LIGHT AND DARK BLUE FLOOD STUDY CONDUCTED BY HALF ASSOCIATES.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE WATER WATERSIDE COURT SIDE ON THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THAT FLOODING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
SO ALL THAT WILL BE ELIMINATED WITH THIS PROJECT.
AND THEN WE HAVE WILDLIFE PROTECTION, UH, AND IT'S ALSO PROTECTION FOR HUMAN SAFETY, PUBLIC HEALTH AND, AND WELFARE AS WELL.
THERE IS A POND INTAKE, WHICH IS FIVE BY FIVE.
MOST OF YOU I'M SURE ARE FAMILIAR WITH IT.
IT'S RIGHT ON THE VERY NORTH END OF THE POND AND IT'S SLIGHTLY LOWER THAN THE NORMAL POOL LEVEL.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WATER GOES AS IT GOES OUT OF THE POND AND INTO A STORM SYSTEM.
WE HAVE, UH, WE'RE BASICALLY GOING TO BUILD SOME CONCRETE WALLS AROUND THIS SYSTEM AND PLACE A STAINLESS STEEL CAGE, IF YOU WILL, ON TOP OF THAT.
AND, UH, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE THE WATER LEVEL IS, UH, IT'S BASICALLY KIND OF HALFWAY THROUGH SOME SMALLER PENETRATIONS IN THERE.
AND SO AS THE WATER RISES AND, UH, BABY DUCKLINGS HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO BE INGESTED IN THERE, THERE IS NO WAY THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THOSE ONE BY ONE HOLES.
SO THAT IS, UH, GOING TO HELP PROTECT THE WILDLIFE.
AND THEN ON TOP WE HAVE THREE BY THREE, BUT THOSE THREE BY THREE HOLES ON THERE ARE ABOVE THE FLOOD SURFACE ELEVATION.
SO ONLY THE LARGER FLYERS WILL BE ABLE TO FLY AND LAND ON THAT.
AND THE BABY DUCKLINGS WILL STILL BE AT WATER LEVEL.
AND SO THIS IS GONNA BE, UH, A REALLY GOOD ASSET TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
AND THEN WE JUST, I HAVE A DESCRIPTION OF THE POND EDGE.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE POND EDGE SITUATIONS THAT WE HAVE, HAVE, WE HAVE A CONCRETE WALL, UH, RETAINING WALL, AND THEN WE HAVE A NATURAL POND UP TO A STONE RETAINING WALL, WHICH HELPS TO LEVEL OUT THE GROUND ABOVE IT FOR A DA WHERE WE CANNOT HAVE A CROSS SLOPE MORE THAN 2%.
AND SO PROJECT PRICING OPTIONS WE TALK ABOUT.
UH, SO WE HAVE, UH, OPTION NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE JUST DESCRIBED.
AND SO WE HAVE THE CONTRACTORS OF BID CONTRACTORS BID OF 4.7, AND, UH, WE HAVE ADDED TO THIS $200,000 FOR A OWNER'S ALLOWANCE.
AND SO THAT PRICE, CONTRACT PRICE FOR THE BASE BID WOULD BE 4,928,593 93 CENTS.
AND, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO WITH AN ALTERNATE BID OF 5 MILLION 2 31 8 47, UH, DERIVED EXACTLY THE SAME WAY AS ABOVE.
AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO IS ONLY 303,000 253 75.
AND SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GET INTO WHAT OPTION NUMBER TWO LOOKS LIKE, OR, OR THE AMENDMENT.
UH, SO WE, UH, I TOLD YOU EARLIER THAT WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN THE POND DEEPENING ON THE EAST SIDE OR THE NORTH SIDE, I'M SORRY, NEXT TO BELTWAY BECAUSE IT'S MUCH MORE CONVENIENT FOR TRUCKING PURPOSES.
AND SO WE START IN THAT AREA WITH A EIGHT FOOT DEPTH POND, AND THEN IT GOES TO SEVEN FEET.
AS WE MOVE OUR WAY SOUTHWARD SIX FEET, FIVE FEET, AND THEN FOUR FEET AT THE OVERLOOK.
AND SO ALL OF THAT HALF OF THE POND IS CURRENTLY DEEPER THAN THE CURRENT THREE FOOT AVERAGE THAT IS IN THAT POND RIGHT NOW.
SO IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN, UH, THE HEALTH OF THE POND WITH THREE FEET DEEP.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, THAT AMENDMENT ALTERNATE BID.
OKAY, ONE OF, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
AND SO, UM, LOOKING AT THE SOUTH END OF THE POND, WE'RE ALSO DEEPENING THERE, BUT NOT QUITE TO THE EXTENT THAT WE DID EARLIER.
SO WE HAVE FOUR FOOT, AND THEN PART OF THE POND IS GONNA REMAIN AT THREE FEET AND THEN FOUR FEET, AND THEN 4.5 TO THE SOUTH END.
AND SO THE BENEFITS OF POND DEEPENING WHEN YOU PUT THIS WITH THE AERATION REALLY IS GONNA MAKE A DYNAMICALLY HEALTHY POND.
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OF THE POND IS A BENEFIT IS IMPROVED EFFECT EFFECTIVENESS AT REMOVING SEDIMENT AND POLLUTANTS.SHALLOW WATER DEPTHS DO CREATE OPTIMUM GROWTH CONDITIONS FOR ALGAE AND AQUATIC WEEDS, WHICH IS NOT AT ALL DESIRABLE.
DEEPENING REDUCES SUNLIGHT PENETRATION TO THE BOTTOM WHERE ALGAE AND AQUATIC WEEDS BEGIN THEIR GROWTH DEEPENING WILL REDUCE THE OVERALL TEMPERATURE OF THE POND BENEFITING THE WATER QUALITY.
OUR DEEPENING ALTERNATIVE INCLUDES A FOUR BAY, WHICH IS A ONE FOOT DEEP DEEPENED AREA AT THE SOUTH END, WHICH IS THE OUTFALL OF THE WATERSHED INTO THE POND WHERE FUTURE SEDIMENT CAN BE ACCUMULATED AND HYDRAULICALLY DREDGED, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT.
IT MAKES IT CONVENIENT TO BE ABLE TO DREDGE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
AND THEN DEEPENING THE POND PROVIDES MORE HABITAT FOR AQUATIC RESOURCES AND JUST A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING BUSINESS.
UH, DURING THE PROJECT, THE SOUTH SIDE OF BELTWAY, WHICH WOULD BE THE EASTBOUND, WILL BE CLOSED FROM LAY LOCKS AVENUE OVER TO PROTON.
AND THE CONSTRUCTION ENTRY WILL ONLY BE OFF OF BELTWAY ROAD AND IT WILL BE DISCOURAGED FOR CONTRACTORS TO USE THE, THE, UH, CUL-DE-SACS FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN SOME DROP OFF AND SOME MISCELLANEOUS THINGS THAT JUST HAVE TO OCCUR, UH, NEAR THOSE CUL-DE-SACS.
BUT IT WILL NOT BE CONTINUOUS.
UH, IT WILL BE A CONTINUOUS ENTRY AT THE BELTWAY SIDE, AND THAT'S WHERE THE CONTRACTOR'S EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO BE ENCOURAGED TO PARK AS WELL.
AND THEN, UH, CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS WERE OBVIOUSLY CLOSING DOWN THE, UH, TRAIL.
IT WILL NOT BE, UH, IN USE AT ALL.
AND SO, UH, JUST SHOWED A DIAGRAM OF OPPORTUNITIES TO WALK FROM THE AREA FROM THE CUL-DE-SACS, EXCUSE ME, FROM THE CUL-DE-SACS ON, UH, PUBLIC SIDEWALKS AND THEN UP TO THE LAY LOCKS PARK AREA AND AROUND, AND THEN USING REDDING TRAIL GOING SOUTH TO PROTON AS AS A LOOP, AS AN EXAMPLE.
AND THEN, UH, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION FENCING THAT IS OPAQUE.
UH, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SEE INSIDE FROM THE, FROM THE OUTSIDE.
AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE A BENEFIT, I THINK, TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE THERE AND THEIR GUESTS AND OTHER FOLKS.
AND SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GONNA LOOK AT THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
AND SO, UM, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU AFTER WE, UH, FINISH UP WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE, WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS SLIDE AND I WILL ASK YOU IF YOU PREFER OPTION NUMBER ONE COST, WHICH IS NO DEEPENING.
WE WILL DEEPEN ONLY TO HAVE A CLAY LINER, WHICH IS TWO FEET DEEP, AND, UH, THAT IS AT 4 9 2 8 5 9 3 93.
AND THEN OPTION NUMBER TWO, UH, HAS THE BENEFIT OF ALL OF THE DEEP THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND THE DIFFERENCES ONLY 303,000 253 75, AND IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE GO WITH A 5 MILLION 231 8 4 7 68, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS COUNCIL'S PURVIEW TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
AND THEN, UH, PHASE TWO OF THE PROJECT THAT WILL HAPPEN IS LANDSCAPE AND IRRIGATION WITH COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSAL AS A NEW PROJECT TO BEGIN AT THE END OF PHASE ONE, THE CONSULTANT'S OPINION OF COST IS APPROXIMATELY $600,000 WITH FUNDING IDENTIFIED AS TREE MITIGATION, STORMWATER AND BOND INTEREST FUNDS.
AND THE, UH, PROJECT TIMELINE MOVING FROM HERE ON OUT IS, UH, THE, UH, WEBSITE CONSTRUCTION PAGE HAS BEEN UPDATED.
UH, AFTER COUNCIL AWARD OF CONTRACT, TEMPORARY SIGNAGE WILL BE PLACED AT THE END OF ALL OF THE CUL-DE-SACS AND ON BELTWAY AS WELL TO INFORM RESIDENTS OF THE UPCOMING CONSTRUCTION.
AND AUGUST, UM, 27TH COUNCIL PRESENTATION, WHICH IS THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE MADE ON THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, WEBPAGE FOR RESIDENTS TO REFER TO THOSE WHO COULD NOT ATTEND TONIGHT AND THEN NOTICE TO PROCEED TO TEXAS STANDARD CONSTRUCTION WILL BE ISSUED ONCE CONTRACT IS BEEN EXECUTED BY BOTH PARTIES.
AND THEN THE WORK IS EXPECTED TO TAKE APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS AFTER WE DO THAT.
AND OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE THE CAVEAT THAT UNEXPECTED WEATHER AND OTHER UN UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS COULD AFFECT THAT SCHEDULE, AS I'M SURE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND.
AND, UH, I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS, BUT I'M ALSO GOING TO TAKE IT BACK TO THE SLIDE WHILE I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
YEAH, JOE, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION, HAVING BEEN THROUGH SO MANY OF THESE.
NOW, THE, THE SLIDE SEVEN, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE QUESTION I HAVE IS
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THE FLOOD PREVENTION FROM HALF STUDY THAT WAS WHILE WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THOSE WOULD BE FLOOD PRONE AREAS WHILE UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR SO THAT IS A PERMANENT CONDITION.AFTER CONSTRUCTION CONCLUDES, THEY DID ALL OF THE STUDIES BASED ON OUR RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS TO INCLUDE THE, UH, WILDLIFE PROTECTION AND INCLUDE THE FOUR BAYS AND THE DEEPENING OF THE POND AND EVERYTHING WE HAVE DONE.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO FLATTENING OUT THAT AREA AT THE SCENT AT THE END OF WATERSIDE CART AS WELL.
SO WITH ALL OF THOSE CONDITIONS BEING CONSIDERED IN A HYDRAULIC MODEL WITH HALF ASSOCIATES, UH, THIS CONDITION WILL BE PERMANENT, THAT IT SHOULD REMOVE ALL OF THESE FLOOD CONDITIONS.
UM, HEY JOE, UM, YES, TWO QUESTIONS ON THIS.
UH, CAN WE GO TO SLIDE FIVE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POND VARIATION? SO ON THE LEFT YOU'VE GOT THREE HYPHEN AUTER BIND.
IS THAT MEANING WE'RE, YOU'RE PROPOSING THREE OF THESE AND THEN TWO YES, SIR.
TWO OF THE, OF THE, UH, ONE ON THE RIGHT.
YES, THE HIGH VOLUME AERATORS.
AND, AND IF WE GO WITH OPTION TWO, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY ESTIMATE ETA OF WHEN EVERYTHING LANDSCAPING, EVERYTHING MIGHT BE COMPLETED IN APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS? OH, EVERYTHING, SIX MONTHS, NOT JUST PHASE ONE, THE, THE, THE POND PART OF IT AND THEN THE LANDSCAPING IRRIGATION WILL TAKE PLACE AFTER THAT WITH A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR, AND THAT SHOULD TAKE ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
SO ABOUT MAYBE 13 MONTHS IF, IF THIS GETS APPROVED TODAY, MAYBE 13 MONTHS LATER.
THAT'S, THAT IS A FAIR ASSUMPTION.
UM, IF YOU COULD GO TO SLIDE THREE HAVING TO DO WITH, UM, THE PROJECT NEGOTIATION FEEDBACK YOU MENTIONED IN THE THIRD BULLET POINT, UM, IF YOU JUST SPEAK TO THIS JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REVISING THE RETAINING WALL DETAILS TO A SIMPLER INSTALLATION THAT WOULD REDUCE COST.
AND YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF A DESCRIPTION THERE.
UH, THERE, THERE WERE A GREAT NUMBER OF OPTIONS IN THE ORIGINAL BID FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF RETAINING WALLS.
AND THIS WAS BASED ON WIDESPREAD PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, EARLY ON, UH, THERE WAS, THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS, AND SO THE DESIGNERS KIND OF FOLLOWED THAT TYPE OF, OF METHODS WHERE THERE WERE JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT RETAINING WALLS AND THERE WERE SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE IT BECAME DIFFICULT, UH, AS WE GOT FEEDBACK FROM THE CONTRACTOR FOR THEM TO REALLY UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE QUANTITIES.
AND SO, UH, THEY ASK US TO PLEASE REVISE THOSE DETAILS AND MAKE 'EM SIMPLER FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO CALCULATE AND TO, UH, FIGURE A COST FOR.
SO IT WAS REALLY, UH, AND WE ADMIT THAT IT IS PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED IN THE FIRST ROUND.
AND SO ONCE THEY WENT BACK AND DID SOME REFINEMENT ON THE DIFFERENT METHOD METHODOLOGY OF THE RETAINING WALLS, THEN I THINK IT BECAME MUCH MORE EASY FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO UNDERSTAND AND TO SUPPLY A GOOD BID FOR BASED ON QUANTITIES.
AND THE, THE SURFACE, WHAT IS THE MAIN MATERIAL OF THE, LIKE THE RETAINING WALLS AS YOU WOULD SEE IT APPEARANCE WISE? WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS AND I CAN SHOW THOSE TO YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE.
RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE 'EM WITH YOU.
SO, UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT KINDS OF APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
UH, WE HAVE THE POND EDGE IN CERTAIN PLACES WITH CUT STONE EDGE, UH, AT A PROTECTED TREE.
THIS IS AT THE NORTH END, NORTH OF RIDGE LAKE COURT.
AND SO THIS IS JUST A STACKED STONE.
UH, AND IT'S BASICALLY, THIS IS A UNIQUE CONDITION THAT WE HAVE JUST NORTH OF RIDGE LAKE COURT, UH, WHERE WE ARE PROTECTING A TREE.
AND, UH, SO THIS IS HOW WE ARE DOING THAT.
AND THEN YOU'VE SEEN THIS ONE HERE, AND THEN THERE IS A DIFFERENT CONDITION WHERE WE HAVE THE STACKED STONE, BUT IT STAIRCASES UP LIKE A SET OF STEPS INTO THE HILLSIDE AND THIS POND EDGE CUT STONE WITH BURIED STONE HEIGHT, BOTH SIDES OF THE OVERLOOK AT WAYSIDE COURT.
AND SO, UM, AT, AT THAT, AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER
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CONDITION WHERE WE HAVE A POND EDGE, WHICH IS NATURAL DOWN TO THE POND, BUT THE TRAIL ITSELF AND THE TOPOGRAPHY AROUND THE TRAIL IS PROTECTED BY, UH, THE STONE RETAINING WALL SO THAT WE CAN GET THE A DA, UH, INFLUENCE ON THAT.AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER CONDITION WHERE WE HAVE CUT STONE EDGE WITH TWO STONE LAYERS AT THE POND EDGE.
AND, UH, THAT IS NORTH OF THE OVERLOOK BETWEEN WAYSIDE AND WATERSIDE COURTS.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, LASTLY I BELIEVE, UH, POND EDGE, STONE WALL, A TIGHT STACK AT THE EXISTING WEST OVERLOOK ADJACENT TO LAKEWAY COURT.
AND SO ALL OF THESE ARE DONE IN CONSIDERATION OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND THE POND EDGE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOPOGRAPHY AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, UH, THE A DA INFLUENCE ON THE TRAIL, UH, WE CAN'T GO MORE THAN 5% LONGITUDINALLY AND 2% CROSS ON THAT TRAIL.
AND I THINK THAT TAKES US BACK VALENCIA TO THE OTHER.
DOES THAT HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND IT? YES.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT ADDS A LOT OF INTEREST TOO.
AND, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID HEAR FROM PUBLIC INPUT IS THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SEE, UH, JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS THE SAME ALL THE WAY AROUND.
AND THEN IT WAS DECIDED EARLY ON DUE TO THE, UH, LIMITATIONS OF THE TOPOGRAPHY AND, AND OTHER, OTHER COMPLICATIONS THAT THERE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS TO THE POND EDGE.
UH, JUST ONE QUICK THING ON THE AIR RAIDS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, HOW MANY ARE OR HAVE BEEN, UM, IN LAY LOCK'S POND PREVIOUSLY.
SO THERE HAVE BEEN THREE IN THREE.
SO NOW WE'RE, AND WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THOSE THREE WITH THE THREE OTTERBEIN COMMENT MODELS ON THE LEFT.
AND THEN WE ARE INTRODUCING THE 3000 GPM HIGH VOLUME AERATION UNITS AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE POND DEEPENING IF WE DECIDE TO GO THAT WAY.
UH, THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY DYNAMICALLY, UM, SAY, UH, WELL, IT'S GONNA BE DYNAMIC FOR, UM, THE, THE FISH AND, AND FOR THE CLARITY OF THE POND AND IT'S GONNA BE GREAT.
I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY THAT IT, WE WERE ADDING TWO, WE DON'T HAVE THE HIGH VOLUMES RIGHT NOW.
WE DO NOT HAVE THE HIGH VOLUME.
UH, YOU SAID THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT.
UH, HAVE YOU TAKEN THE FINAL PRODUCT AND RAN IT BY THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, WE HAD A PUBLIC INPUT MEETING LAST OCTOBER.
IT WAS IN THE, UM, ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB IN THE COMMUNITY ROOM.
THERE WERE 96 PEOPLE IN THAT ROOM.
AND I'M TELLING YOU, IT WAS VERY, VERY TIGHT.
WE HAD A LOT OF CITIZENS THAT CAME OUT.
AND ONE THING THAT I DID ASK THAT, UH, THEY HOLD ANY COMMENTS UNTIL WE WERE FINISHED WITH OUR SLIDES AND THERE THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION AND THEY DID, AND, AND THE FEEDBACK WAS VERY, VERY POSITIVE FROM THAT MEETING.
AND WE, WE CAME AWAY FROM THAT FEELING REALLY GOOD ABOUT IT.
AND THEN, UM, SO 23 FEET IN HEIGHT FOR THE AERATION, I'M ASSUMING THAT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF NOISE.
HAVE, HAVE YOU GOTTEN BUY-IN FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THAT AS WELL? WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY, VERY ANXIOUS TO HAVE THEIR WATER FEATURES BACK.
THE, THE WATER FEATURES THAT WERE, UH, PREVIOUSLY THERE WOULD, UH, THERE, THERE PROBABLY PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME WATER LEVEL.
THEY'RE REALLY NOT OVERLY NOISY, ESPECIALLY THIS ONE BECAUSE IT IS A COLUMN THAT GOES UP AND THEN STRAIGHT DOWN IT DOESN'T REALLY SPREAD OUT NECESSARILY.
SO I THINK THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENT ON THE, ON THE SOUND.
AND THEN THE HIGH VOLUME IS NOT VERY TALL.
IT'S ONLY ABOUT, UH, UH, ABOUT 4.5 FEET TALL AND 11 FEET WIDE.
SO WHILE THERE IS A LOT OF VOLUME OF WATER, UH, DON'T REALLY THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF SOUND TO THAT EITHER.
UH, EIGHT FEET VERSUS THREE FEET.
UM, HAVE WE GIVEN THOUGHT TO SAFETY? UM, I KNOW FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, MY DOG HAS JUMPED IN THERE BEFORE.
I'VE HAD DAUGHTERS RIDE BIKES ON TRAINING WHEELS AROUND THERE.
SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MAYBE KEEP PEOPLE FROM FALLING IN TO THE EIGHT FOOT SECTION? SO IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE TOPOGRAPHY OF, ACTUALLY I'VE GOT A BETTER SLIDE
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FOR THAT.SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS HERE, THIS IS THE PROPOSED CONDITION AROUND THE POND AND THE CONTOURS THAT I WAS POINTING TO ON THE DEEPENING SLIDE ALSO POINT TO THAT AS WELL, IS THE FIRST FEW FEET OUT, UH, THERE IS A SHELF, IF YOU WILL, THAT IS NO MORE THAN 12 TO 18 INCHES AT THE VERY MOST.
AND SO IT GOES OUT BEFORE THERE IS ANY KIND OF DROP OFF.
SO IF ANYBODY WERE TO ENTER THE POND, UH, EVEN A CHILD WOULD BE ABLE TO STAND UP IN THAT AREA.
AND THAT IS VERY TYPICAL OF THIS TYPE OF POND WHEN YOU HAVE A HIGH RESIDENTIAL AREA.
AND THEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL 3,000,282 AND THEN OPTION TWO 5 MILLION 2 32, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $2 MILLION.
I THINK YOU TOUCHED ON WHERE THAT DIFFERENCE IS COMING FROM.
CAN YOU RUN BY THAT? I SURE CAN.
SO WE HAD THE 3 2 82 1 10, AND THEN WE HAVE SUBTRACTED FROM THAT COST FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
BUT THEN WE ADDED BACK IN, UH, $2.5 MILLION FROM STORMWATER FROM PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE THIS IS A STORMWATER PROJECT.
AND THEN WE HAD, UH, AN ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO THAT FROM SOME BOND INTEREST AS WELL.
AND BOTH OF THE PRICES THAT I'M ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER THIS EVENING, UH, HAVE GONE THROUGH OUR CFO AND BOTH OF THOSE ARE AFFORDABLE.
AND WE HAVE A SAVINGS OF ABOUT, UH, $200,000 IF WE GO WITH THE, UH, ALTERNATE BID ALONG WITH THE $200,000 FOR THE, UH, OWNER'S CONTINGENCY FUND AS WELL.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME CUSHION, HOPEFULLY THAT $200,000 WILL BE TRACKED OVER TO THE LANDSCAPE PORTION, BUT IF NOT, WE HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THE LANDSCAPE PROJECT AS WELL.
SO WHY ARE WE HAVING TO DO THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE? IS IT, IS IT THE BUILDUP OF SILT? IS IT THE LINER THAT'S DETERIORATED? UM, ALL, ALL OF THE ABOVE AND AND I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T PUT THE SLIDE IN, BUT MOST ALL OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, EXCEPT FOR YOU AND MR. FREE HAVE UH, HAVE SEEN THIS.
IT IS COMPLETELY DISINTEGRATING.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE, THE ACTUAL LINER ITSELF AND THE POND EDGE, WHICH IS CONCRETE, IS ACTUALLY MOVING OVER AND FALLING OFF INTO THE POND.
SO WATER IS GETTING IN BEHIND THAT CONCRETE EDGE AND IT'S JUST PUSHING EVERYTHING IN AND IT, AND THE LINER HAS RIPS AND TEARS AND UH, AND UH, ANOTHER BENEFIT OF THIS PROJECT IS ALSO THE DEEPENING, IF WE GO WITH THAT, IS REALLY GOING TO INCREASE THE WATER QUALITY AS WELL QUITE A BIT.
WOULD CHOOSING OPTION TWO MAYBE, UM, GIVE A LITTLE MORE LIFE TO, UM, THE LINER, MEANING GOING WITH A MORE EXPENSIVE OPTION? COULD WE EXPECT IT? I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD AND FINISH YOUR, UM, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
WOULD OPTION TWO MAYBE GIVE US A LITTLE MORE LIFE OF THAT LINER RATHER THAN HAVING TO DO IT AGAIN? SO OPTION, UM, BOTH OF THE OPTIONS, AND I, I APOLOGIZE, I THINK I FAILED TO MENTION THIS EARLIER, IS THAT WE ARE NO LONGER DOING A LINER, A TRADITIONAL LINER, WHICH WE CALL HDPE, WHICH IS PLASTIC.
WE ARE DOING A CLAY LINER FOR BOTH OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER.
AND THE CLAY LINER IS, UH, IT IS MADE OUT OF, OF NATURAL CLAY FROM THE AREA AND IT, IT IS, UH, BASICALLY YOU EXCAVATE ABOUT TWO FEET, YOU PUT SOME UNDERLAYMENT UNDER THAT, AND THEN YOU BUILD THE CLAY ON TOP OF THAT IN YOUR POND.
BOTTOM IS THAT CLAY AND IT WILL REMAIN INTACT IN PERPETUITY.
JUST HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND WATER FEATURES, IT SEEMS ON GOLF COURSES, THE CURRENT, IF THEY WERE ALL WORKING TODAY, AND I'VE BEEN AROUND NORTHERN WINDS AND THE SOUTHERN WINDS AND SEEN IT OVER SPRAY ONTO THE SIDEWALK, SO WITH THESE SPRAYS GOING TWICE THAT HEIGHT FROM THE CURRENT, HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT JUST WHAT THAT IMPLICATIONS GONNA LOOK LIKE OVER MONTHS OR WEEKS OF WINDS IN THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH THOSE TWO TIMES A YEAR? YES, SIR.
SO THERE ARE DEVICES THAT CAN BE PLACED ON THOSE FOUNTAINS THAT, UH, WILL METER THE WIND SPEED.
AND WHEN THE MID WIND SPEED GETS UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND WE, WE WOULD REGULATE WHAT THAT WIND SPEED IS IN THAT INSTANCE, THE WATER WILL SHUT OFF.
SO WE CAN CONTROL NOT THE HEIGHT, BUT WE CONTROL THE ON AND OFF.
WE CAN CONTROL THE ON AND OFF AND, AND THE HYPE CAN BE CONTROLLED TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, BUT IT'S NOT A LOT.
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YEAH, I, I JUST KNOW I'VE SEEN WINDS WHAT WIND CAN DO WITH WATER OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AS YOU HAVE.THAT WAS ONE OF MY, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU, UM, CURRENTLY THERE'S TWO OBSERVATION DECKS I'LL REFER TO THEM AS YES, SIR, SOUTH END.
ARE THOSE GOING TO BE SAME LOCATIONS, NEW LOCATIONS? NOT AT ALL.
THEY ARE GOING TO STAY RIGHT WHERE THEY ARE.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE TOUCHED AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT.
IT'S JUST THAT EDGE THAT YOU, YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT IS AROUND THOSE OBSERVATION DECKS.
SO NO ADDITIONAL SEATING, NO REMOVING OF SEATING? NO, SIR.
THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS BID.
AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION IS, IS THERE AN EXAMPLE THAT THE CONTRACTOR CAN SHOW THE PUBLIC OF, OF FINISHED PROJECT WITH THAT STACKED STONE? BACK TO CHRIS'S POINT, THERE WAS ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT SHOWED IT STACKED.
SO IS IT, IS, IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S, WE CAN SEE A FINISHED PROJECT IN FRISCO WHERE THEY, THIS CONTRACTOR HAS BUILT THAT LOOK, UH, I WILL WORK WITH A CONTRACTOR TO GET A LOCATION AND THEN SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
UH, BECAUSE HAVE, WE HAVE HAD SIGNS, BUT KIDS ARE GONNA BE KIDS.
THEY HAVE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE DOING ALL SORTS OF CONSTRUCTION AND, AND, UM, THEY'RE HERE THIS EVENING, TEXAS STANDARD IS HERE.
SO, UH, I'LL GET WITH THEM OFFLINE AND THEN I'LL, I'LL FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU.
THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING PROJECT.
SO IT, UM, SO THE SECOND PHASE OF THIS IS, IS JUST, UH, ESTIMATED AT $600,000.
THE, AND THAT'S THE LANDSCAPE AND IRRIGATION REPLACEMENT.
IT SEEMED LIKE THAT WAS A LOT MORE EXTENSIVE AT ONE TIME.
AND WE HAVE, WE CUT THAT BACK, UM, FROM THE SCOPE TO KEEP BECAUSE OF THE, THE PRICE WAS THREE TIMES WHAT, UH, THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS.
WE, WE ARE DEALING WITH A SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE DIFFERENT BASED ON THE CONTRACTOR'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO US AS TO WHY THE FIRST ONE WAS SO EXPENSIVE.
WE ARE TAKING THE POND WORK IN FIRST PHASE, THEY'RE GOING TO GO AWAY.
WE'LL HIRE SOMEBODY THAT SPECIALIZES IN LANDSCAPE AND IRRIGATION.
SO IT'S THAT SPECIALTY THAT HELPS OUT.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE ARE JUST DOING AWAY WITH THE, UH, RAIN GARDENS.
THAT'S NO LONGER AN OPTION BECAUSE OF THE EXPENSE OF THAT.
BUT A LOT OF THE LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS ARE STILL THERE FOR THIS PRICE.
AND ARE WE GONNA BE MANAGING DO, DOING MORE OF THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT OF THAT AS, AS I RECALL? UM, YES SIR.
AND THAT'S A COST SAVINGS TOO.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THE TERM NEGOTIATED SCOPE OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT.
UM, HOW'S THAT DIFFERENT THAN A BID? IT, UM, IS THE BID LIKE A NOT TO EXCEED AND THEN, UH, THE SCOPE IS KIND OF ACTUAL COST AND IT COULD BE GREATER? SO, UH, A BID IS A SITUATION WHERE YOU PUT A PROJECT OUT WITH SPECIFICATIONS AND PLANS AND ASK CONTRACTORS TO GIVE YOU A PRICE.
SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSAL AND IN THAT PROCESS WE HAVE THE PUBLISHED, UH, CRITERIA THAT CHANDLER WENT OVER WITH YOU IN HIS PROJECT.
AND THAT PUBLISHED CRITERIA IS A LEGAL MEANS IN WHICH ONCE WE DETERMINE THE CONTRACTOR THAT IS THE BEST VALUE TO THE TOWN WITH THAT, USING THAT CRITERIA, THEN WE CAN NEGOTIATE WITH THEM ACTIVELY.
UH, BUT IT'S NOT A PUBLIC PROCESS.
IT IS A PRIVATE PROCESS BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE CONTRACTOR UNTIL WE REACH A POINT WHERE THEY PROPOSE A PRICE THAT IS AGREEABLE TO US.
IS THAT FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT OR PHASES OF THE PROJECT? THAT IS FOR THE PHASE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT.
SO, UH, WE HAVEN'T BID OR DONE COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSALS FOR THE LANDSCAPE YET.
SO THAT WILL BE A DIFFERENT SITUATION AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL JUST, UH, BE ABLE TO GET A PRICE THAT WE CAN LIVE WITH.
IF NOT, WE'LL HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THAT ONE AS WELL.
SO THE 5.2 MILLION IS, IS PRETTY, PRETTY WELL SET WITH THE, THAT 200,000 CONTINGENCY? YES, SIR.
UM, SO THE ADDITIONAL PUMPS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING ONTO THE FOUNTAINS, THAT'S A LOT MORE FOUNTAIN AND TO SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS AS FAR AS THE, UH, NOISE LEVEL GOES OF THE WATER SPLASHING, UM, IT'S SIGNIFICANT.
UH, I MEAN, YOU SAID THAT IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, NOT AS, AS, UH, NOT EXCESSIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS, BUT WHAT'S THE CURRENT VOLUME OF
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THE, OF THE, UH, FOUNTAINS THAT ARE THERE NOW? I, YOU KNOW, I, I CANNOT ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW.I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT VOLUME IS.
IT, IT HAS FLUCTUATED AS THEY TEND TO BE UNDER, UH, A LOT OF DISREPAIR RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO START THIS PROJECT AND, AND GET IT ALL CLEANED OUT AND RECONSTRUCTED AND, UH, HOPEFULLY DEEPENED AND THEN PUT WATER IN IT AND, AND, UH, RUN THE NEW FOUNTAINS.
I'M A FAN OF MORE PUMP THAN LESS PUMP, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S AN EXCESS ALSO.
LEAVE IT TO THE PROFESSIONALS.
YOU GUYS, UM, IS THE SIDEWALK AROUND IT IS THAT, UM, BEING RECONSTRUCTED, PARTS OF THE SIDEWALK AROUND IT ARE BEING RECONSTRUCTED, BUT IT'S NOT TOTALLY AROUND THE ENTIRE LOOP.
SO WE ARE EVALUATING AREAS THAT HAVE, UH, AN AC AN EXCESS OF, UH, LONGITUDINAL SLOPE AT MORE THAN 5%.
AND WHEN IT IS IT, IT IS CONSIDERED A RAMP AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO PUT RAMPS AROUND THERE.
SO WE ARE RECONSTRUCTING PORTIONS OF THAT, THAT EXCEED THAT 5%.
AND IT'S A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF SIDEWALK WORK THAT IS GONNA BE DONE, BECAUSE I KNOW THE SIDEWALK'S PRETTY NARROW, UH, ALL THE WAY AROUND IT AND YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WIDTH EXPANSION WITH EASEMENTS.
AND I SUPPOSE THAT, UM, IS, IS ANY OF THE WIDTH BEING EXPANDED OR ON, ON THE SIDEWALKS? THE WIDTH WILL NOT BE EXPANDED ANYWHERE, UH, EXCEPT FOR POTENTIALLY AT THE VERY FAR NORTH END WHERE WE ARE CONTEMPLATING A WALL THAT COULD HAVE A MURAL ON IT.
AND WE'LL EXPAND A LITTLE BIT FOR A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO KIND OF STEP OVER AND, AND LOOK AT THAT MURAL IF WE, UH, GO WITH THAT.
AND, UM, THE, THE MAIN REASON WE CAN'T WIDEN IS WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE ROOM TO DO IT.
WE ARE AT A VERY MINIMUM OF EXPANSIVE OPPORTUNITY.
THAT, I THINK WE'D CONSIDER THAT ALONG THE WAY AND WE JUST CAN'T DO IT.
SO YOU MENTIONED ONE OF THE THINGS, I WAS ON THE BOND COMMITTEE BACK IN 2019 WHEN WE APPROVED THIS, AND IT'S REALLY, THAT'S ONE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.
SOMEBODY ASKED THAT QUESTION IS 'CAUSE THE VOTERS APPROVED IT AND WE SAID WE WOULD DO IT AND SO WE WE WILL DO IT.
UM, THIS COMMITMENT, THE, AND YOU SAID SOME OF THE THINGS WE GAVE UP AND THAT'S WHAT WAS MY QUESTION, UH, TO NOTE HERE WAS WHAT DID WE GIVE UP FROM THE ORIGINAL DESIGN? YOU SAID THE, THE RAIN GARDENS.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING UP THAT'S NOTABLE? YEAH, WE GAVE UP SOME OF THE, THE ALTERNATE BIDS FOR UPLIGHTING OF THE TREES, THE RAIN GARDENS.
UH, WE HAD, UH, I THINK IT WAS MORE FOUNTAINS IN, IN THE POND.
AND, UM, CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT THAT WE, THAT WE ARE GIVING UP.
WE'RE, WE'RE JUST KIND OF SCALING BACK A LITTLE BIT ON, ON SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE THE, THE RAIN GARDENS.
I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS ACTUALLY HAPPEN.
I KNOW, I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS ARE ALSO, UH, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK AND FOR THE PRESENTATION AND PUTTING UP WITH ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS.
UH, JOE, JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BY DECIBEL READINGS, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PROVIDED BY THE CONSTRUC, BY THE CONSTRUCTION TEAM.
THEY MAY HAVE DECIBEL READINGS THAT COULD TELL THE PUBLIC EXPECT WHITE NOISE LEVELS OF X.
NOW AND THEN IT'S GONNA GO TO YI THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
YOU CAN TELL PEOPLE THE DECIBEL READING.
LASTLY WOULD BE, MAYOR BRUCE, YOU'RE IN REAL ESTATE.
I'M ASSUMING THAT IN A YEAR OR TWO FROM NOW, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? NOW IF I WERE TO BUY A HOUSE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A DILAPIDATED POND, NON-WORKING FUNCTIONING VARIATIONS WHEN IT'S DONE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF VALUE TO THE HOMEOWNERS IN THAT COMMUNITY AS A TAXPAYER? IT'S GOTTA INCREASE.
WELL, JUST, JUST THE VALUE OF BEING BY THAT PERSPECTIVE POND HAS ALWAYS BEEN, HAS ALWAYS BEEN PROBABLY SOME ABOVE THE OTHERS.
BUT THERE'S GONNA BE A VALUE, AN INCREASED VALUE IN YOUR RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE OWNERSHIP.
AND, AND ONCE IT'S, ONCE IT'S A COMPLETE PROJECT AND THINGS ARE WORKING AS IT SHOULD BE, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY METAL ODOR, POND MUCK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THEN, UM, IT IS JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO BE BETTER.
SO I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT POINT THAT IT'S, YOU GOT GOT A FEW MONTHS OF, YOU KNOW, SOME INCONVENIENCE FOR SURE.
GET RID OF THE SMELL, BUT BRING IN THE, THE FRESH WATER, THE EYE ON THE PRIZE.
I, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING SO HARD ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME AND, AND I, I REMEMBER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL BEFORE, SO THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, SO I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE US, UH, FINALLY GET HERE.
AND JUST ONE MORE QUESTION ON THOSE, UH, AERATOR.
AERATORS, UH, AND I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A FEW JUST, DO THEY RUN CONSTANTLY
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OR, OR ARE THEY PERIODIC? THEY, THEY WILL RUN ALL THE TIME.I THOUGHT THEY DID, BUT I WASN'T SURE IF, IF THEY WOULD, IF THEY TOOK A BREAK FROM TIME TO TIME OR NEEDED TO DO WHATEVER, BUT OKAY, GOOD.
SO, AND DO YOU HAVE A, UH, A SENSE FOR ONCE THIS IS APPROVED, WHEN THE UH, WHEN THE CONTRACTOR WOULD BE ABLE TO GET WORK STARTED? WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR, OUR PROCESSES AFTER, AFTER THIS IS, UH, EXECUTED, UH, BY DAVID.
UH, ONCE THAT IS DONE, THEN WE'LL START WORKING WITH A CONTRACTOR AND THEY HAVE TO GET THEIR BONDING AND, AND THAT TAKES A WHILE.
AND THEN THEY HAVE TO START THEIR MOBILIZATION PROCESS, WHICH TAKES A WHILE, UH, SEVERAL WEEKS.
BUT WE WILL BE WORKING TOGETHER TO GET THAT GOING.
AND, AND THEN, UH, THEY WILL PRESENT US WITH A SCHEDULE, WHICH I HAVE A FEELING IS GONNA BE AROUND SIX MONTHS, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL KIND OF WORK THROUGH AS SOON AS WE GET MOBILIZED AND READY TO GO.
SO I, I SEE CONSTRUCTION IN OCTOBER.
ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? IS THERE A MOTION HERE? I'D LIKE TO MAKE MOTION TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE OPTION TWO ALTERNATE BID, ALTERNATE TWO ALTERNATE TO OPTION BID.
I'D LIKE TO MOTION, I'LL SECOND THAT AND THAT WAS A SECOND.
ALRIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
MAYOR, IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY ONE THING IS A SINCERE APPRECIATION TO TEXAS STANDARD CONSTRUCTION.
UH, THESE FOLKS HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY TO HANG IN THERE WITH US.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PHONE CALLS, EMAILS, TEXTS, SMOKE SIGNALS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT UP,
UH, WE HAVE WORKED TOGETHER FOR QUITE A WHILE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, AND I SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING YOU HANG AROUND WITH US FOR THE NEXT MONTHS.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU, JOE.
ALL RIGHT, LAST THING, WE HAVE ITEM
[6. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.]
SIX ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ADDRESS ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST, INCLUDING EXPRESSING THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE INFORMATION AND SO FORTH.DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? WELL, YOU KNOW, I DO.
SO I JUST WANT TO, UH, MAKE A COMMENT.
UH, YOU KNOW, BEFORE OUR WORK SESSION THIS EVENING, WE HAD A NICE, UH, SWEARING IN OF, UH, ASSISTANT, UH, POLICE CHIEF TJ METZER, AND A NICE GATHERING FOR THAT WITH SOME SNACKS AND REFRESHMENTS.
AND, UH, AND IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY GREAT TO SEE THAT.
AND IT IS BEEN GREAT TO SEE TJ GROW IN HIS CAREER HERE AT ADDISON.
AND, UH, HE, HE TRULY IS ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS.
WE HAVE SO MANY GREAT FOLKS AROUND HERE.
AND SO, SO, UH, EXCITING TO SEE HIM IN THIS NEW ROLE.
AND I HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH CHIEF FREEZE AFTERWARDS, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HE, HE WAS, HE WAS BRAGGING ABOUT HIS LEADERSHIP TEAM, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, HIS ASSISTANT CHIEFS NOW AND, AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT HE WORKS WITH.
AND, AND, AND, AND HIS WORDS TO ME WAS THAT HE KNOWS HOW BLESSED HE IS TO BE HERE AND HAVE THE TEAM WORKING WITH HIM.
AND SO, SO I JUST LOVE HEARING THAT THE SUPPORT THAT, THAT HE HAS AND HIS, THE ADMIRATION HE HAS AND APPRECIATION HE HAS FOR HIS, HIS TEAM THAT WORKS WITH HIM.
I, I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY GREAT.
SO, UH, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE, UH, ASSISTANT CHIEF SMITHER ONCE MORE AND THANKS TO EVERYBODY.
SO, ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? ALRIGHT THEN IT IS 8 55 AND WE'LL ADJOURN FOR THE NIGHT.