[1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present.]
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WE'LL CALL THE ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL.
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF COUNCIL PRESENT WITH ALL MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.
AND, UH, WE WILL GO RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS CITIZEN COMMENTS ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES.
AND IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
[3. Council Member Clarification Requests Regarding Consent Agenda Items. ]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.COUNCIL MEMBER CLARIFICATION, REQUEST REGARDING CONSENT, AGENDA ITEMS, ANY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS OR NEED CLARIFICATION OR ANYTHING ON CONSENT? MARLON, I'VE GOT ONE FOR FOUR.
UH, FOUR, FOUR B, FOUR B, JUST, IT WAS, UM, IT LOOKED LIKE THE SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDED THE ROOF AND THE HVAC IN INTO THAT B PRICING.
IS THAT CORRECT? BILL? BILL? HEY, BILL.
BILL, I JUST WANT TO, I'M TRYING TO CONFIRM.
IT LOOKED, IT APPEARED THAT THE SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDED THE ACTUAL PRODUCTS OF THE HVAC AND, AND THE ROOF BEING INSTALLED.
IS THAT CORRECT? OR IS? YES, SIR.
IT'S A TOTAL TURNKEY INSTALLATION.
THEY'LL REFURBISHED THE ROOF, THEY'LL REMOVE THE EXISTING UNITS, REPLACE THOSE WITH NEW UNITS.
THAT'LL DO ALL THE TESTING, BALANCING ALL THE CONNECTIONS.
A A TOTAL AND BUDGET AMOUNT WILL COVER THAT.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GET ANOTHER ITEM FOR HVAC AND CORRECT, SIR, THAT'S IT.
IT ALSO INCLUDES THE SKYLIGHT AND REPLACING SOME OTHER COMPONENTS, UH, ON THAT BUILDING.
YEAH, I JUST FIRE ALARMS THAT CONNECT TO THAT.
AND WE ALSO HAVE MCKINTRY HERE AS WELL, IF YOU HAVE SOME REAL TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.
NO, I JUST, THERE WAS SOME TEXT THAT KIND OF THREW ME OFF ON THAT, SO I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT THAT WAS WHAT WE'RE PART OF THE APPROVAL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION CLARIFICATIONS NEEDED? ALRIGHT, THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND ITEM FOUR A.
WE ARE GOING TO POSTPONE THAT UNTIL A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE WORK SESSION.
UH, WE HAVE, WE NEED TO HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
THAT'S A CLOSED SESSION, SO WE NEED TO HAVE CITY ATTORNEY PRESENT AND THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT DELAYED THIS AFTERNOON, SO IT'LL BE, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT LATER.
SO WE'LL BRING THAT IN AS SOON AS THEY'RE IN AND AVAILABLE.
[a. Present and discuss an update from Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART). ]
SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, THE WORK SESSION REPORTS AND ITEM SIX A PRESENT AND DISCUSS AN UPDATE FROM DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT DARTS.WE HAVE NADINE LEE HERE, WHO'S THE CEO OF DART TO GIVE A, AN UPDATE ON EVERYTHING DART RELATED AND HOW IT RELATES TO ADDISON AND EVERYTHING GOING ON THERE, WHICH I THINK THINK THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO DO THAT.
OBVIOUSLY THIS WITH THIS COUNCIL AND FOR NADINE TO INTRODUCE HERSELF AND TALK ABOUT A NUMBER OF THE PROJECTS.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE ONE SIGNIFICANT PROJECT RIGHT OUTSIDE THESE DOORS WITH THE SILVER LINE COMING THROUGH, BUT THERE'S A LOT THAT'S GOING ON IN DOUG, SO THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
UM, AND I, UH, I APOLOGIZE ON BEHALF OF CHAIR SLAGEL, WHO IS CURRENTLY RUNNING A DARK BOARD MEETING OR MAYBE ON HIS WAY UP HERE.
HE WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF CONSIDERING THE BUDGET TODAY IN COMMITTEE OF A WHOLE.
AND SO I CAME AHEAD AHEAD OF HIM.
UM, AND SO I KNOW HE'S GONNA TRYING TO GET HERE SOON AS HE CAN.
UM, AND SINCE MY PRESENTATION'S LIKE FOUR OR FIVE HOURS LONG, I FIGURED HE'LL BE
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
I KNOW THERE'S A TON GOING ON AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A BUSY AGENDA.
SO, UM, THE PRESENTATION THAT I HAVE FOR YOU, WHICH I'M CERTAIN YOU WILL GET AT SOME POINT, UM, AFTER, AFTER I TALK, UM, THERE'S A LOT MORE DETAIL ON THE SLIDES.
I'M GONNA GLOSS OVER A LOT OF IT SO THAT I CAN BE MINDFUL OF YOUR TIME.
UM, BUT, UH, IF, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON ANY, ANY OF THE INFORMATION, UM, RIGHT AFTER THE PRESENTATION, OR CERTAINLY AFTER YOU GET A COPY OF IT AND HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH IT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO GIVE US A CALL AND REACH.
HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, SO TODAY I WANNA GO THROUGH, UM, WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR POINT B STRATEGIC PLAN.
UM, I KNOW I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, BOTH DAVID AS WELL AS MAYOR ARSEN.
UM, THE REST OF YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE BENEFIT OF HEARING ABOUT IT.
UM, SO LET ME GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR GOALS AND SOME OF THE SPECIFICS AROUND 'EM, BUT I WON'T GET GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL AGAIN BECAUSE OF TIME.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE SILVER LINE UPDATE, WHICH DAVID REFERENCED, UM, WHICH YOU ALL ARE WATCHING AS IT'S TAKING SHAPE IN FRONT OF THIS BUILDING.
UM, AND THEN I'LL TOUCH ON THE SALES TAX ISSUE THAT YOU'VE BEEN READING ABOUT IN THE PAPERS, AND HOPEFULLY I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT ONTO WHAT'S HAPPENING TO WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE.
SO, UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
WE JUST ADOPTED A NEW STRATEGIC PLAN IN JUNE.
UM, IT IS A REALLY NICE, UH, LOOK AT THE FUTURE OF WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO FOR OUR SERVICE AREA CITIES, UM, IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS
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OR SO.UM, AND, AND SO THE BAR, THE DART BOARD APPROVED THAT STRATEGIC PLAN ON JUNE 11TH.
UM, WE ARE ACTUALLY, UM, WE HAVE A NEW VISION MISSION AND SIX STRATEGIC GOALS.
AND, UM, AND WE HAVE THE, UH, HARD COPIES BEING PRINTED AS WE SPEAK.
AND SO AS SOON AS WE GET THE HARD COPIES, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SEND THEM TO YOU.
UM, IT IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE ONLINE.
THERE'S BOTH AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, THE CLIPS NOTE, CLIFFNOTES VERSION, UM, AND SO YOU CAN FIND IT AT DART.ORG/STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH IS ALL ONE WORK.
UM, AND THEN, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK SUMMARY, UH, WE ARE EVOLVING DART INTO A VALUED REGIONAL ECONOMIC AND MOBILITY ASSET.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, THAT MEANS THE FUTURE WHERE WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO, UH, HAVE MORE PEOPLE USING AND RELYING ON DART BECAUSE OUR SERVICE WILL SERVICES WILL BE ACCESSIBLE, UH, ATTRACTIVE AND EASY TO USE, UM, WHERE WE REALLY UNLOCK THE FULL POTENTIAL OF DART, UM, FOR OUR CITIES AND OUR PARTNERS TO LEVERAGE TRANSIT AS A CATALYST FOR ECONOMIC PROSPERITY AND A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE.
UM, AND IT'S REALLY A PLACE WHERE WE, UH, HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROUD TO WORK FOR DART, CHOOSE TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY IN AREAS SERVED BY DART AND THINK OF DART HEARST FOR THEIR MOBILITY NEEDS.
AND SO THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING WHERE, UM, AS I LIKE TO DESCRIBE IT, WE ARE CULTIVATING A LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP WITH PEOPLE IN THIS REGION, AND WE WANT EVERYONE TO LOVE DART.
SO LET ME TALK ABOUT THE SIX STRATEGIC GOALS.
UM, THESE GOALS ARE, UH, THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF GET TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER ON THIS VISION THAT WE HAVE FOR THE FUTURE.
OUR GOALS FALL GENERALLY INTO THREE BUCKETS.
THE FIRST BUCKET IS ABOUT OUR WORKFORCE AND HOW WE OPERATE AS AN AGENCY.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND BUCKET IS OUR CUSTOMER FOCUS GOALS, WHICH IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THE QUALITY OF OUR SERVICES, THE CONNECTIVITY OF THOSE SERVICES SO THAT WE CAN GET PEOPLE WHERE THEY NEED TO GO AND THAT THEY ACTUALLY WANT TO RIDE OUR SYSTEM.
THE THIRD BUCKET IS FANTASTIC SPACES AND STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIPS, WHICH IS ALL ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR CITIES.
HOW ARE WE LEVERAGING OUR RESOURCES OR POOLING RESOURCES TOGETHER TO DO MORE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES? BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL SHARE COMMON GOALS AND NORTH TO MORRIS AVENUE.
UM, SO, UM, SO WE HAVE UPDATED OUR VISION AND MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE ORGANIZATION.
UM, IF YOU COULD EVEN HAVE RECITED THE OLD VISION AND MISSION STATEMENT, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU COULDN'T BECAUSE IT WAS FAR TOO LONG.
UM, WE HAVE VERY SIMPLE STATEMENTS HERE.
WE WANNA BE FIRST IN MIND, UM, FOR ANYBODY WHO'S MOVING ABOUT IN THIS REGION AS A MOBILITY PARTNER, AND WE WANNA CREATE BEST IN CLASS JOURNEYS FOR EVERYONE SO THAT WE CAN HELP PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES CONNECT AND FLOURISH.
UM, WHAT I LIKE ABOUT OUR MISSION STATEMENT NOW IS WE TALKED ABOUT THE WHY, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WHY IS DART ROUND? WHY DO WE, WHY DO WE EXIST? UM, THIS IS WHY.
IT'S BECAUSE WE WANNA HELP PEOPLE IN COMMUNITIES CONNECT AND FLOURISH.
UH, THIS IS A SECTION WHERE I'M GONNA BLAST THROUGH IT REALLY QUICKLY.
SO AGAIN, THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE DETAIL IN THE SLIDES THAT YOU GET.
UM, BUT IF, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE GOALS AND INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE, THE QUALITY SERVICE PIECE OF OUR GOALS IS REALLY ABOUT PROFESSIONAL PRIDE AND DELIVERING THE BEST CLASS CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE.
UM, YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW THIS, BUT I'M GONNA TELL YOU.
UM, IN FY 23, THE DART BOARD APPROVED $110 MILLION TO APPROVE RIDER EXPERIENCES, UM, AND TO PROVIDE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREAS OF SECURITY, CLEANLINESS, CLEANLINESS AND RELIABILITY.
UM, IN OUR FUTURE THAT WE'VE IMAGINED, UH, WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN, SECURITY, CLEANLINESS AND RELIABILITY SHOULD BE PART OF THE DNA, IT SHOULD BE SECOND NATURE TO US.
WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT ANYMORE.
WE DON'T EVEN WANT THAT TO BE THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD ALL EXPECT FROM US RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT MAKE IT BETTER.
AND SO LET ME HIGHLIGHT JUST A COUPLE OF THE INITIATIVES THAT WE ARE HAVE UNDERWAY, UM, THAT ARE TRYING TO GET TO THAT REALITY WHERE EVERYBODY JUST ASSUMES THAT DART IS AS SECURE AS POSSIBLE.
SO THE FIRST THING IS WE HAVE A MULTIFACETED SECURITY STRATEGY.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO TACKLE SECURITY AND THE PERCEPTION OF SECURITY FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT ANGLES BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ARMED LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE ON THE SYSTEM THAT MAKES PEOPLE FEEL SECURE.
NOT EVERYBODY FEELS SECURE WITH THAT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING FROM TECHNOLOGY TO HOW, HOW WE DESIGN OUR STATIONS TO NOT, UM, IS THERE ADEQUATE LIGHTING THERE? UM, ARE THERE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE, UH, THERE ARE SHADOWS AND PEOPLE HIDE BEHIND THEM.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO, UH, IMPROVE THE EXPERIENCE OF THE CUSTOMER WHILE THEY'RE WAITING FOR OUR SERVICES.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, PRO PROVIDING THE, UM, PROVIDING THE RESOURCES THAT, THAT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY, UH, CREATE A REALITY THAT THAT HAS, HAS A BETTER, UH, PERCEPTION OF SECURITY.
UM, WE DO HAVE OUR DARK CARE PILOT PROGRAM GOING ON RIGHT NOW, AND THAT IS A, THEY, THEY ARE, THEY'RE EIGHT TEAMS. UM, TEAMS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERED WITH, UH, PARAMEDICS AS WELL AS MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS TO TRY TO INTERCEPT PEOPLE WHO MAY BE IN COGNITIVE CRISIS AND, UM, AND HELP THEM GET
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TO SERVICES.I THINK WE'RE GONNA FINISH THAT UP IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR, AND WE'LL BE EVALUATING THE FUTURE OF THAT PROGRAM, WHETHER WE SHOULD BE EXPANDING IT OR IF WE NEED TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO DO IT.
UM, OTHER THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON, UM, CLEANLINESS.
WE'VE IMPLEMENTED CLEAN TEAMS. IT WAS PART OF THE RIDERSHIP IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
UM, THE CLEAN TEAMS ARE CLEANING UP ON OUR, UH, LIGHT RAIL VEHICLES AND OUR BUSES AND OUR, AT OUR STATIONS IN REAL TIME.
SO YOU'LL SPEED THEM OUT ON THE SYSTEM, UM, PICKING UP TRASH.
UH, THE BENEFIT THAT WE DISCOVERED WITH THIS IS THAT HAVING UNIFORMED, UM, PERSONNEL ON THE SYSTEM, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT, HELPED PEOPLE FEEL MORE SECURE.
SO THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD DISCOVERY ON OUR PART.
UM, AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE DEFINITELY WANNA KEEP, KEEP, KEEP GOING.
UH, FROM A RELIABILITY PERSPECTIVE, UH, WE DELIVER ABOUT 7,500 BUS AND RAIL TRIPS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE'RE DELIVERING OVER 99% OF THOSE TRIPS.
WE WE'RE FULFILLING THOSE TRIPS BECAUSE, UM, WE HAVE AGGRESSIVELY HIRED MORE OPERATORS AND WE ARE USING A, A LOT OF DIFFERENT OUTREACH, UM, APPROACHES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN INTEREST IN OUR JOBS.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING THROUGH WITH, UH, WORKING THROUGH THE RETENTION ASPECTS OF OUR LABOR MARKET RIGHT NOW.
'CAUSE AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT'S VERY HARD TO, TO FIND PEOPLE.
UM, BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE RETAIN AS MANY AS POSSIBLE AND THEN WHEN PEOPLE DO LEAVE, WE PROCESS THAT PAPERWORK AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT CAPACITY FOR THAT, UH, FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES IS FREED UP AND WE CAN RECRUIT IMMEDIATELY.
AND SO THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH PERSONNEL TO PUT THOSE TRIPS OUT ON THE STREETS.
UM, I WILL NOTE THAT, UM, IN 2022 WE WERE MISSING ABOUT 15% OF THE TRIPS.
NOW WE'RE MISSING LESS THAN 1% OF OUR TRIPS.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, WE HAVE REDUCED OUR VOLUNTARY ATTRITION FROM 13% LAST YEAR TO THREE AND A HALF PERCENT THIS YEAR.
SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT.
IN TERMS OF RIDERSHIP GROWTH, UH, WE HAVE BEEN TRENDING IN THE LOW EIGHTIES AS A PERCENTAGE OF PRE COVID RIDERSHIP.
AND SO ON THIS SLIDE YOU'LL SEE THAT, UM, PARATRANSIT AND GOLINK SPECIFICALLY HAVE
AND, UM, AND SO WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO TO GAIN RIDERSHIP.
SO ADDISON IS SERVED BY 12 BUS ROUTES AND, UM, AND ONE GO LINKS ZONE.
AND, UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY MORE BUS SERVICE THAN ANY LOCATION OTHER THAN OUR WEST TRANSFER STATION, WHICH IS DOWN, DOWN IN THE DOWNTOWN DALLAS AREA.
UM, YOU HAVE, WE HAVE THE SECOND HIGHEST RIDERSHIP OF ANY LOCATION IN THE DART BUS NETWORK.
SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT.
UH, 1800 BOARDINGS EACH WEEKDAY OVER 50,000 BOARDINGS MONTHLY.
NOW, THE SILVER LINE SERVICE THAT WILL BE OPENING, UM, TOWARDS THE END OF 2025, UM, EARLY 2026, WHAT IS GOING TO ADD SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE RANGE OF AVAILABLE DESTINATIONS WHEN THE SERVICE STARTS.
AND REMEMBER I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CONNECTIVITY OF OUR SERVICES.
THAT'S WHERE THE, THE ADDISON TRANSFER CENTER COMES IN BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE CONNECTING RAIL TO BUS TO MICRO MOBILITY AND ALL OF THE THINGS YOU ALL HAVE PLANNED FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT HERE.
UM, CURRENT PARKING O OCCUPANCY HERE IS ABOUT 12.3%.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN SOME OF OUR OTHER PARKING RIDES.
SO, UM, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE TRANSFORMATION OF THIS AREA WHEN THIS SILVER LINE OPENS AND TFD REALLY STARTS TO TAKE SHAPE.
HERE'S JUST A GRAPH THAT SHOWS YOU, UM, THE NUMBERS ON ADDISON IN PARTICULAR.
SO ADDISON IS TRENDING HIGHER THAN THE REST OF THE SYSTEM AT 95% OF PRE PANDEMIC RIDERSHIP.
AND MOST OF THIS IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO, UM, BUS RIDERSHIP AS GOLINK AND PARATRANSIT COMBINED, UM, UH, COMBINED AND MAKE UP ABOUT 1% OF OVERALL RIDERSHIP.
UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF BOARDING ACTIVITY HERE, UH, FOR ALL SERVICES WITHIN ADDISON.
IN ADDITION TO, UM, OUR SERVICES, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS IMPROVE QUALITY.
AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO INVEST IN MODERNIZATION OF OUR SYSTEM.
SO THE LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM IS ACTUALLY NEARING 30 YEARS OLD, EVEN THOUGH SILVER LINES COMING THROUGH AND IT'S BRAND NEW.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE WE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF.
AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN A STATE OF GOOD REPAIR AND WE'LL BE OPERATING WELL SO THAT WE CAN BE RELIABLE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.
AND THAT INCLUDES, UM, 500 NEW BUSES THAT ARE COMING.
UH, WE'RE GETTING READY TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH THE STATE OF WASHINGTON TO, TO WORK THROUGH THEM TO BUY NEW BUSES.
AND WE'LL BE REPLACING THE OLDEST, UH, LIGHT RAIL VEHICLES, UM, IN OUR FLEET AND MAKING SURE THAT WHILE WE'RE AT IT, UM, WHY DON'T WE JUST, UM, TRY TO IMPROVE THINGS WHILE WE CAN.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED MODERNIZATION AND NOT JUST DATA REPAIR.
UM, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE WANT DART TO BE FRONT OF MIND WHEN SOMEONE HAS A TRAVEL NEED.
UM, SO WE HAVE A FAMILY OF SERVICES THAT FIT A BROAD RANGE OF TRIP TYPES AND USER NEEDS.
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UM, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT, UH, RIDERSHIP ON THE WEEKEND IS, IS ALREADY BACK, UM, RIDERSHIP DURING THE WEEK CONTINUES TO LAG BEHIND, UM, SOME OF THE PRE COVID NUMBERS.
SO WE THINK THAT HAVING ALL DAY SERVICE IS MUCH MORE USEFUL TO OUR RIDERS, WILL ACTUALLY GIVE THEM REASONS TO USE DARK.
I LIKE SHOWING THESE MAPS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A TON MORE SERVICE THAN WE PROVIDE RIGHT NOW.
UM, THESE MAPS KIND OF SHOW YOU THE PLANS TO GROW OUR BUS NETWORK.
SO WE HAVE OUR EXISTING NETWORK, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT THE COLORS ARE, UM, THE, THE RED IS OUR 15 MINUTE SERVICE ROUTES.
THE PURPLE IS OUR, UH, 15 MINUTE DURING THE PEAK AND 20 DURING THE MIDDAY, AND THEN THE BLUE IS THE 30 MINUTES ALL DAY.
SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE HOW WE GO FROM THE EXISTING TO THE TIER TWO NETWORK.
EVERYTHING, UM, LIKE THE RED UH, LINES, WHICH I SAID ARE 15 MINUTE SERVICE ALL DAY, UM, GROWS DRAMATICALLY, UM, INTO THE TIER TWO NETWORK.
NOW THIS IS CURRENTLY PROJECTED TO TAKE ABOUT 10 YEARS TO GET IN PLACE, UM, WITH BUDGET AND STAFFING BEING THE BIGGEST OBSTACLES.
AND ULTIMATELY OUR POINT B STRATEGIC PLAN TALKS ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF 10 BY 10, WHICH IS A 10 MINUTE WALK TO 10 MINUTE SERVICE.
UM, SO THAT'S A GOAL THAT WE HAVE AN ASPIRATIONAL GOAL FOR SOME.
UM, WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO IMPLEMENT, UH, ELEMENTS OF THE TIER ONE NETWORK.
UM, IN JUNE THIS YEAR, UH, CHANGES WENT INTO EFFECT, UH, TO CONNECT ADDISON, UM, AND IT INCLUDED EAST WEST SERVICE ON BELTLINE BETWEEN ADDISON AND GARLAND VIA NEW ROUTE TWO 50.
UM, AND ALSO EAST WEST SERVICE ON ARAPAHOE VIA ROUTE 2, 3 8.
AND THAT INCLUDED NEW SERVICE WEST OF CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY THAT REPLACES THE CENTRAL, UH, RICHARDSON GO LINK SERVICE NOW.
UM, WE'RE PLANNING IN SEPTEMBER TO, UM, IMPROVE WEEKEND RAIL FREQUENCIES TO EVERY 20 MINUTES BETWEEN 6:00 AM AND 10:00 PM WHICH WILL MAKE THINGS MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE THAN WHAT THEY ARE NOW.
UH, REALLY QUICK, UM, THE CORE PROGRAM IS A PROGRAM TO IMPROVE OUR BUS SERVICES, UM, TRYING TO IMPROVE SPEED AND RELIABILITY OF OUR BUS SERVICES, LOOKING AT TRANSIT SIGNAL PRIORITY, WHERE WE CAN, UH, WORKING WITH OUR CITIES TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN ENHANCE THE, UH, THE OPERATION OF OUR BUSES SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY CARRY MORE PEOPLE IN THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE.
UM, HOPE, HOPING TO ADD SOME PEOPLE CARRYING CAPACITY TO ALL THE STREETS, UM, IN OUR REGION.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR INTERESTED PARTIES TO, TO WORK WITH US ON THAT.
'CAUSE IT'S, UH, IT'S DEFINITELY A, A DIFFICULT THING TO DO IS TO LOOK AT BUS LANES AS SINGLE PRIORITY BECAUSE, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO GIVE UP THEIR CARS AND GIVE UP THEIR LANES.
UM, BUT IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT CAN REALLY MAKE OR BREAK THE BUS SYSTEM.
UM, AND SO AS OUR REGION GROWS AND, AND WE EXPERIENCE MORE CONGESTION, HAVING THAT PRIORITY FOR PEOPLE, UH, MOVEMENT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.
SO SOMETHING WE WANNA KEEP TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT MOBILITY HUBS.
THIS IS, UH, ACTUALLY, UH, THE ABSENT TRANSFER CENTER IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE MOBILITY HUB.
SO TRYING TO, UH, INTEGRATE ALL FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION IN ONE LOCATION.
SO, UH, GETTING TO AND FROM PLACES FOR THE FIRST LAST MILE WILL BE EASIER ON WHATEVER MODE WORKS FOR YOU.
UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ADVANCING AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
IN ADDITION, UH, WE ARE PILOTING SOME NEW BUS SHELTERS.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY IN ADDISON, UNFORTUNATELY.
THERE'S ONLY FIVE LOCATIONS, WHICH, UM, I CAN SEND TO YOU, UH, AFTER THE PRESENTATION.
UM, BUT YOU CAN GIVE A, GIVE A GLIMPSE OF WHAT THESE LOOK LIKE.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED, IMPROVING, UH, LIGHTING, UH, IMPROVING SEATING, UM, PROVIDING THE SHELTER SO THAT PEOPLE CAN STAY OUT OF THE ELEMENTS.
UM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HOPING TO DEPLOY, UH, MORE BROADLY ONCE WE GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM USERS ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY LIKE AND SIGN AND, AND IF THERE ARE ANY THINGS WE NEED TO CHANGE.
SO, FANTASTIC SPACES IS ANOTHER GOAL THAT OFFERS REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES FOR COLLABORATION WITH OUR CITIES.
UM, AND WE ARE, UH, OF COURSE YOU ALL RECOGNIZE THIS.
UM, IT'S A GREAT WAY FOR US TO REFRAME HOW WE SEE TRANSIT SUPPORTING THE CITY'S ECONOMIC AND QUALITY OF LIFE GOALS.
AND WHETHER THAT'S AN INTEGRATED BUS SHELTER OR A HUB, UH, A PARK, A MAJOR MIXED USE.
I THINK ABSENCE, THE EXPANSION PLAN OFFERS SOME LITTLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO COLLABORATE.
UM, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO, UM, TO WORK WITH THE CITIES AND UNDERSTAND THE CITY'S GOALS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE TAILOR WHAT WE'RE OFFERING, UM, TO MAKE, MAKE YOUR TOD'S ARE SUCCESSFUL.
AND WHILE THERE'S NO BETTER EXAMPLE THAN ADDISON, UM, HERE I JUST HAVE A FEW MORE PICTURES, UM,
UM, BUT THE GOAL IS TO ACTIVATE SPACES TO MAKE THEM MORE PRODUCTIVE, RIGHT? UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE PRODUCTIVE FOR THE RESIDENTS AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITIES.
UM, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR PARKING,
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UH, PARKING LOTS ARE PROBABLY 10%, UTILIZED A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AT 12% HERE IN ADDISON.BUT, UM, BUT HOW WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US TO WORK WITH YOU TO USE THAT SPACE IN A DIFFERENT WAY? I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN REALLY TALK ABOUT.
UM, THIS IS ALL ABOUT WORKING, OOPS, SORRY.
ALL ABOUT WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR PARTNERS, MEANING THE CITIES, UH, CHAMBERS, BUSINESSES, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO ADVANCE MUTUAL GOALS.
AND THIS IS REALLY GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE FUNDS, POOL RESOURCES SO THAT WE CAN DO MORE TOGETHER FOR OUR CITIES, FOR OUR COMMUNITIES, FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
AND SO WE ARE, UM, WE HAVE MET WITH ALL OF THE SERVICE AREA CITIES INDIVIDUALLY TO UNDERSTAND KEY PRIORITIES.
AND WE'VE ALSO KICKED OFF WHAT WE CALL OUR AREA PLAN WORKSHOPS TO LOOK AT MOBILITY WITHIN, UM, YOUR CITY BOUNDARIES.
I KNOW ADDISON IS FOUR SQUARE MILES, BUT
UM, AND SO WHAT WE WANNA DO IS FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAILOR THE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER SO THAT IT FITS MORE WITHIN WHAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR.
UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST A SUMMARY OF A STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE THAT WE WORKED ON WITH THE MAYOR AND WITH DAVID TO, UM, TO REALLY LAY OUT SOME OF THE KEY ELEMENTS OF ADDISON.
UM, HEARING THIS FROM THE MAYOR AND, AND DAVID.
SO IN OUR STRATEGY, UH, STRATEGY SESSIONS, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW, UH, ADDISON REALLY WANTS TO CONTINUE TO ATTRACT COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES AND ADDRESS TRAVEL NEEDS.
UM, WE WANNA CONNECT PEOPLE, UH, FIRST AND LAST MILE WILL BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL HAVE A NUMBER OF REALLY HIGH PROFILE, UH, LARGE SCALE EVENTS THAT, UM, YOU BRING A LOT OF PEOPLE TO.
AND SO ADDRESSING, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION NEED AND PARKING, LACK OF PARKING DURING THOSE EVENTS WILL BE CRITICAL.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT ADDISON LIKES TO PRESERVE THE SMALL TOWN FIELD, BUT YOU ALL HAVE A LOT OF BIG TOWN KIND OF AMENITIES AND OFFERINGS.
UM, WHAT IS A NUMBER, LIKE 200 RESTAURANTS OR SOMETHING? I MEAN, IT'S SUCH A SMALL SPACE.
UM, I LIKE COMING TO ADDISON TO E 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO OFFER HERE.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE WANNA PROVIDE, UH, YOU KNOW, TRANSIT SERVICE THAT WILL ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND ENHANCE, UM, THE KIND OF EXPERIENCE THAT, THAT YOUR RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR.
UM, SO THAT PEOPLE WILL COME AND USE YOUR, USE YOUR FACILITIES AND YOUR AMENITIES.
UM, IT, THE TRANSIT EXPERIENCE HAS TO BE COMMENSURATE WITH WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT TO REINFORCE, UH, JUST HOW VALUABLE IT IS FOR PEOPLE TO BE NEAR TRANSIT HUBS, UM, TO LIVE, TO WORK, TO PLAY.
UM, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE REALLY, REALLY BENEFICIAL FOR THE FUTURE OF YOUR CITY.
SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TOGETHER, UH, TO DO TOGETHER.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR CITIES TO KICK OFF OUR AREA PLANNING PROCESS, WHICH AGAIN, LOOKS AT MOBILITY WITHIN YOUR CITY BOUNDARIES.
UM, I KNOW YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON, UM, A 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
UM, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO WORK WITH YOU TO IMAGINE ALL THAT ADDISON CAN BE AND HOW DAR CAN HELP YOU GET THERE.
OKAY, I'M ALMOST DONE
SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SILVER LINE.
UM, AND JUST WITHIN THE TOWN OF ADDISON, UM, WE, THE PROGRESS AT THE END OF JUNE, 2024, WE'VE COMPLETED THE MIDWAY ROAD RAIL BRIDGE.
WE'VE COMPLETED, UM, ADDISON ROAD FORM AND SPECTRUM DRIVE CROSSINGS.
UM, WE'RE 90, 90% COMPLETE ON ADDISON STATION.
UH, 95% COMPLETE AT THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.
AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF THAT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, 70 OR 80% COMPLETE AT THIS POINT.
UM, BY THE WAY, IF YOU WANT A TOUR OF THE SILVER LINE AT ANY TIME, PLEASE GIVE US A CALL.
WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE YOU OUT THERE.
UM, IT'S KIND OF FUN TO LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO, UH, SO JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, UM, THE PROPOSED DAILY SERVICE, UH, FROM DFW AIRPORT TO SHILOH ROAD IN PLANO, UM, WE'RE ANTICIPATING RIGHT NOW SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 55 AND 60 TRIPS A DAY.
UM, THEY'LL BE RUNNING 5:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT.
UM, TRAINS WILL RUN ARE CURRENTLY PROJECTED TO RUN 30 MINUTES DURING THE PEAK WEEKDAY TIMES AND 60 MINUTES DURING ALL OTHER, UH, WEEKDAY SERVICE TIMES.
AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT WHAT THE WEEKEND SCHEDULES MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
AND SO WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADJUST THE TRAIN SCHEDULE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS SERVICE.
UH, I MENTIONED THOSE BIG EVENTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE, LIKE BOOMTOWN DAY STATUS AND OCTOBERFEST, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS COMING UP IN JUST A MONTH.
UM, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, UM, IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL SERVICES, WE'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD THOSE THINGS IN HERE.
THIS IS THE STATION RIGHT OUTSIDE OUR FRONT DOOR HERE.
UM, THE PICTURES TELL THE STORY, THE STATION'S 90% COMPLETE.
UM, HERE ARE THE RAIL AND IN BRIDGES, UM, AT THE TOLLWAY.
AND YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THE VEHICLES RUNNING BACK AND FORTH, UM, A LOT WHENEVER WE START TESTING THESE VEHICLES, WE HAVE TO, UH, BREAK THEM IN.
BUT, UH, IT TAKES ABOUT ANYWHERE FROM SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR OF TESTING AND EVERYBODY GETS REALLY EXCITED.
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SERVICE STARTING? NOT STARTING YET.UM, BUT YOU WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST TO GET THAT STARTED.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, I HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT THE COTTON BELT TRAIL, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE BIG HALLMARKS OF THE SILVER LINE PROJECT IS GETTING THIS MASSIVE, UH, CONNECTED TRAIL BUILD, UM, ACROSS THE NORTH PART OF OUR, OUR REGION.
ALL RIGHT, SALES TAX, THIS IS THE LAST THING I SAID THAT LAST TIME.
UM, SO, SO RECENTLY, UM, AS YOU READ IN THE PAPER, SIX OF THE 13 DARK CITY COUNCILS HAVE APPROVED RESOLUTIONS THAT SUPPORT CAPPING OR REDUCING THE DARK SALES TAX RENEW BY 25%.
UM, RICHARDSON AND GARLAND HAVE DISCUSSED SUPPORT FOR DART.
UM, THEY HAVE NOT YET TAKEN ANY ACTION, ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY MAY BE WORKING ON THAT.
UM, THE REASONS FOR THEIR ACTIONS, UH, VARY BY CITY, BUT THEY OFTEN CITE RIDERSHIP EQUITY TRANSPARENCY AND OR THEIR OWN BUDGET ISSUES AS THEIR REASONS FOR, UM, ASKING FOR THESE, UH, REDUCTIONS IN SALES TAX.
SO THE RECENT BOARD DISCUSSIONS, UM, AROUND REVIEWING THE FY 28 5 BUDGET, UM, HAS TALKED ABOUT, UM, CAPPING THE BUDGET GROWTH, THE OPERATING BUDGET GROWTH AT 3% OR 0%, HAVING FLAT BUDGET GROWTH.
UM, THE STAFF PROPOSED, UH, BUDGET ON THE OPERATING SIDE WAS A 5.5% GROWTH THIS YEAR.
UM, THE OVERALL TOTAL BUDGET GROWTH, UM, FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS ONE POINT HALF PERCENT.
UM, SO WE ARE, UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, THE DART BOARD IS THE ENTITY THAT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO LOWER THE SALES TAX RATE AND CURRENT STATE LAW.
UM, SO THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY SOME IMPLICATIONS OF A RATE REDUCTION.
UM, WE HAVE SOME, UH, DEBT THAT WE HAVE ISSUED AGAINST THAT 1%.
SO, UM, I THINK THERE WOULD BE SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS TO OUR CREDIT RATINGS.
UM, AND OF COURSE WE MAY HAVE TO RESTRUCTURE OUR DEBT.
UM, THERE WOULD, UH, IF WE WERE TO GO TO A 25% REDUCTION IN OUR SALES TAX REVENUE, THERE WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT SERVICE CUTS FOR ALL NODES.
UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A REDUCTION IN FORCE.
UM, I'M NOT EXAGGERATING BY THE WAY, I MEAN, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE, UH, THINKING THAT I MIGHT EXAGGERATE, BUT, UM, 25% OF ANY BUDGET, UM, AT THE MUNICIPAL OR THE GOVERNMENT LEVEL IS SIGNIFICANT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE CITIES IS THAT THEY DON'T WANT SERVICE CUTS, UM, THAT THEIR ACTIONS ARE SYMBOLIC.
BUT THERE ARE TWO STUDIES UNDERWAY TO, UM, HELP US ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT EQUITY BETWEEN THE CITIES AND THE PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM.
AND SO WE ARE PREPARING FOR THE UPCOMING STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, UM, AND ANY POTENTIAL CHANGES THAT MAY BE PROPOSED TO STATE LAW.
UM, THE TWO STUDIES THAT I WAS REFERRING TO, ONE IS THE EY REPORT THAT'S BEING CONDUCTED TO ALLOCATE DART'S OPERATING CAPITAL AND DEBT COSTS TO THE INDIVIDUAL SERVICE AREA CITIES.
UM, A BRIEFING TO THE BOARD WAS DONE IN JULY.
WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE ANOTHER BRIEFING IN SEPTEMBER.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S THE COG STUDY, UH, REGIONAL TRANSIT 2.0, WHICH IS GOING TO LOOK AT, UM, POSSIBLE ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES.
UM, IT'S GONNA LOOK AT GOVERNANCE, IT'S GONNA LOOK AT LEG, THE LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM, IT'S GONNA LOOK AT A NUMBER OF THINGS.
UM, IT IS PROBABLY, I SORT OF FACETIOUSLY SAY IT'S 99.9% ABOUT DART.
UM, ALTHOUGH IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A REGIONAL METROPLEX LEVEL STUDY.
SO THIS IS REALLY THE LAST PART.
AND SO WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO LEVERAGE DART AS A TRUE ECONOMIC AND MOBILITY ASSET FOR THIS REGION.
THERE ARE A TON OF WAYS THAT WE CAN COLLABORATE ACROSS OUR SERVICE AREA TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY AND CONNECTIVITY OF DART.
AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ADDISON AND ALL THE CITIES TO MAKE THIS VISION A REALITY.
THERE ARE A FEW ENGAGEMENT AND MEETING OPPORTUNITIES, UM, COMING UP.
UM, AND, UH, I WANTED TO JUST END AGAIN ON OUR VISION AND MISSION BECAUSE I THINK IT CAPTURES WHERE WE WANNA HEAD IN THE FUTURE.
WE WANT TO THANK ADDISON LEADERSHIP AND STAFF, UM, FOR A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED COLLABORATION.
WE DO WANNA BE EVERYONE'S FIRST IN MIND MOBILITY PARTNER.
WE WANT EVERYONE TO LOVE DART.
WE DO THIS BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITIES AND THE PROSPERITY OF OUR RESIDENTS.
THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO US AS WE MOVE FORWARD, AND WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU TO ACHIEVE THESE OBJECTIVES FOR EVERYONE.
IT'S LIKE, REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION.
SO, UH, QUESTIONS FOR NADINE? I HAVE ONE AND IT'S JUST KIND OF A BIGGER PICTURE QUESTION.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, UM, INCREASED RIDERSHIP.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS? I MEAN, I'M, I'M SO EXCITED TO HAVE THIS SILVER LINE
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AND I'M HOPING THAT THAT EAST AND WEST FINALLY GETS MORE PEOPLE TO CONSIDER DART TO GET AROUND.BUT WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT, BIGGER PICTURE FOR THE FUTURE TO INCREASE RIDERSHIP? YEAH, SO, UM, OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT QUALITY SERVICE AND CONNECTIVITY OF SERVICE, I THINK THAT IS ESSENTIAL.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD IN THE LAST THREE YEARS SINCE I CAME ON BOARD TO WORK ON THE FOUNDATIONAL THINGS THAT DART WAS NOT DOING WELL.
UM, IN FACT, I I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LEARNED FOR YEARS THROUGH OUR CUSTOMER SATISFACTION SURVEYS THAT PEOPLE CARED ABOUT FREQUENCY, RELIABILITY, SPEED, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANTED TO KNOW THEY COULD DEPEND ON DART AND WE WEREN'T REALLY DOING THAT, UM, FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
I, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE REASONS WERE, BUT, BUT WHAT WE DO RIGHT NOW IS, UM, NOT ONLY ARE ARE WE ARE FULFILLING THE TRIPS THAT WE'VE SCHEDULED.
SO VIS-A-VIS THAT 1%, UM, CANCELLATION RATE, OR LESS THAN 1% CANCELLATION RATE THAT I MENTIONED, UM, WE'RE MAKING SURE WE DELIVER ON ALL THOSE TRIPS.
UM, AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS ON OUR SYSTEM THAT IS OUT OF OUR CONTROL, UH, WE WORK SUPER HARD TO RESTORE THE SERVICES IS POSSIBLE.
AND SO WE ARE TRYING REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN DEPEND ON DART AND THAT, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I KIND OF TALKED ABOUT HOW IN THE FUTURE, UH, SECURITY, CLEANLINESS, RELIABILITY ARE IN OUR DNA.
UM, BEYOND THAT IT'S HOW DO WE SURPRISE AND DELIGHT OUR WRITERS? HOW DO WE MAKE IT SO THAT THEY ENJOY WRITING SO MUCH THAT THEY DON'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE? UM, BUT WE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF THOSE BOARD NEEDS FIRST.
UM, WHEN WE RESTRUCTURED THE BUS NETWORK IN 2022, UM, WE CHANGED VIRTUALLY EVERY SINGLE, UM, BUS STOP, BUS ROUTE.
UM, IN FACT, I, ON OPENING DAY FOR THE NEW BUS NETWORK, I WAS ACTUALLY UP HERE AT ADDISON TRANSFER CENTER HELPING PROVIDERS FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO GO.
UM, WE DID THAT RESTRUCTURE WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD BUILD OFF OF THAT NEW STRUCTURE THAT PRIOR TO THAT WE HADN'T HAD A MAJOR OVERHAUL OF OUR BUS SYSTEM, UM, IN REALLY LIKE 40 YEARS ALMOST.
AND SO WE KNEW THAT WHEN WE, UM, WHEN WE USED KIND OF A DATA DRIVEN PROCESS TO TRY TO CAPTURE AS MANY WRITERS AS WE COULD, UM, THAT ONCE WE PULLED THE PLUG IN AND MADE THAT CHANGE, THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE RIDERSHIP GROWTH, UM, COMING BECAUSE WE'RE SERVING PEOPLE BETTER.
WE WERE SERVING THE, THE MORE MODERN DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT HAD FORMED OVER TIME.
AND SO, UM, SO WE REALLY, WE THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO ESTABLISH THE NEW BUS NETWORK AS THE BASELINE AND GROW FROM THERE.
SO, SO WE ACTUALLY, UM, SINCE UM, 20 JANUARY OF 2023, WE'VE BEEN RUNNING THAT FULL BUS NETWORK TO ITS FULL CAPACITY.
'CAUSE WE FINALLY HAD ENOUGH OPERATORS.
UM, AND WE KEEP BUILDING ON THAT MOMENTUM.
WE'RE TRYING TO, AS I MENTIONED, DO MODERNIZATION PROGRAM, WHICH NOT ONLY BRINGS NEW VEHICLES, IT ALSO GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE, UM, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, OUR FACILITIES, OUR TRANSFER CENTERS.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, I SHOWED YOU THE, THE BUS SHELTERS.
UH, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DEPLOY THOSE IN OTHER PLACES BECAUSE ON THE BUS SIDE, THE WAITING EXPERIENCES, EVERYBODY IS IMPORTANT.
IMPORTANT IS A RIDING EXPERIENCE.
SO WE'RE DOING THINGS A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME, MAKING THESE INVESTMENTS IN ANTICIPATION OF BEING ABLE TO CARRY A LOT MORE PEOPLE.
AND, UM, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY EVALUATE ON A REGULAR BASIS, ARE WE TAKING PEOPLE WHERE THEY NEED TO GO? AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, UM, OUR AREA PLAN WORK WITH OUR CITIES, UH, CITY STAFF IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU ALL KNOW WHERE YOUR DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN.
UM, LET'S FIGURE OUT WHERE THOSE MAJOR TRAVEL SHEDS ARE GONNA BE IN THE FUTURE.
AND LET'S SET EVERYBODY UP FOR SUCCESS.
UM, I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS IF I COULD.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, SLIDE 11.
I WAS REALLY EX REALLY EXCITED TO SEE EVENTUAL REPLACEMENT OF THE BUS STATION.
UM, AND MY QUESTION IS HAVE, HAVE WE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS STARTED? UM, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I, I KNOW THAT, UH, MY STAFF PROBABLY HAS TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THAT STUFF CONCEPTUALLY, BUT I CAN'T, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LATEST CONVERSATION HAS BEEN.
I THINK YOU ALL ARE FOCUSED ON SOME OTHER AREAS KIND OF NORTH OF THERE, RIGHT? UM, FIRST, SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, DAVID, IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT, YEAH, I WOULD SAY WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING STAGES AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TOD.
AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DART LEASE, IT'S COME UP IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG DISCUSSIONS.
BUT I THINK WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT OF WHAT WE WANT THERE.
AND I THINK MAYBE POINTED OUT A NUMBER OF TIMES, AND I THINK EVERY TIME WE DRIVE BY IT, WE SEE ALL THOSE EMPTY PARKING SPOTS.
SO AS WE GET MORE DENSITY AND WE DEVELOP THAT DART LAND, I THINK IT WILL SEAMLESSLY KIND OF ROLL IN.
BUT, SO WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT I THINK IT'S GONNA BE IN LINE WITH, I'M, I'M SUPER EXCITED THAT, THAT THOSE CON YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATIONS CONVERSATIONS HAVE ACTUALLY STARTED.
AND, UM, SO THE OTHER, THE OTHER QUESTION
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I HAD, YOU WERE SHOWING US THE DARK, UH, SOME OF THESE NEW DARK, DARK BUS SHELTERS AND A FEW YEARS BACK WE, UH, WE HAD A MAJOR, UH, PROJECT WITH, UH, REJUVENATING BELTLINE ROAD.AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS WE CAME UP, WE CREATED THIS ADVANCE, UH, ENHANCED BUS STATIONS.
AND, AND SO WE WERE ROLLING OUT MORE OF THOSE THROUGHOUT ADDISON.
AND THEY'RE ALL, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, VERY, VERY SIMILAR LOOK, VERY PREMIUM LOOK.
AND I THINK IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, UM, WHEN WE DID THAT, THESE OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE, UH, UH, PREEXISTING DARK BUS, BUS STOPS, RIGHT? AND SO I BELIEVE WE GOT SOME FORM OF CREDIT THAT WE COULD USE TOWARDS CREATING THIS ENHANCED BUS STATION.
AND, UM, AND I WAS CURIOUS IF DART WAS OPEN TO SOMETHING SIMILAR, UM, AS WE, AS WE CHOOSE TO DO MORE OF THAT IN ADDISON.
UM, I MEAN THIS IS, UH, I'LL LOOK INTO HOW THAT PROGRAM WAS ACTUALLY CREATED, BUT UM, BUT YEAH, WE ARE ABSOLUTELY OPEN TO TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN COLLABORATE IN THE CITY IS TO FIGURE OUT, I MEAN, IF YOU'VE ALREADY DEVELOPED A SHELTER THAT YOU WILL LIKE, AND IT'S A PARTICULAR LOOK FOR YOUR, UM, FOR YOUR TOWN, THEN YEAH, LET'S NOT CHANGE THINGS UP BECAUSE I THINK BRANDING IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, CITY OF ADDISON HAS A BRAND, DART HAS A BRAND, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T WORK THOSE BRANDS TOGETHER SOMEHOW.
I MEAN, WE CAN, I THINK OBVIOUSLY WE'RE VERY BRAND AWARE IN THIS CITY, BUT ALSO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO MAYBE, MAYBE OTHER CITIES CAN'T 'CAUSE JUST OF OUR SMALL, OUR SMALL SIZE AND SO FORTH.
SO, UM, I HOPE WE CAN DO MORE OF THAT.
YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.
OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COMMENT.
UM, I MET WITH SOME RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN ADDISON CIRCLE AND THEY SAID THE BUS LINE USED TO GO, I GUESS DOWN ADDISON ROAD AND THEN IT GOT SWITCHED TO FORUM AND THE BUSES GO AWFULLY CLOSE TO SOME OF THOSE RESIDENCE AS THOSE BUILDINGS ARE CLOSE TO THE STREET AND THEY WERE UNHAPPY WITH THE SPEED OR THE NOISE.
THERE'S SOME MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, SPEED BUMPS OR SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE TO SLOW DOWN THE BUSES SO THEY'RE NOT AS NOISY OR NOT AS FAST.
THAT WAS JUST A CONCERN THAT THEY HAD.
SO, OKAY, I'M JUST SHARING IT WITH YOU 'CAUSE THEY BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION.
YEAH, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT FOR SURE.
SO WE'LL, UM, WE'LL FOLLOW UP THROUGH DAVE.
SO NADINE, ON THAT SAME TOPIC, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO REROUTE THAT OFF OF QUORUM AND TAKE IT HERE AT ADDISON ROAD TO WHERE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER WALK FROM SOME OF THOSE FOLKS TO GET TO THE BUS, BUT TAKES THAT, TAKES THAT WHOLE ISSUE OUT OF THE, OUT THE PICTURE? YEAH, WE'LL LOOK INTO IT.
UM, USUALLY WHEN THERE'S A CHANGE LIKE THAT, NOT ALWAYS, USUALLY THERE'S A, A REASON THAT WE'VE MADE THAT CHANGE.
EITHER WE'RE CAPTURING MORE WRITERS ON FORUM OR WHATEVER.
SO, SO LET ME LOOK INTO IT AND I'LL FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT AFFECTED THE CHANGE AND THEN I'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
AND THEN IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO CHANGE THE MACAB WHERE WE COULD DO THAT.
THERE WERE, WHILE WE WERE SITTING, THERE WAS 1, 2, 3 BUSES AT A TIME AND THEN THREE AT A TIME, VERY LITTLE RIDERSHIP.
THE SPEED WAS, SOMETIMES IT WAS FINE, SOMETIMES IT FELT TOO FAST.
BUT IT WAS NOISY RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR HOMES.
SO THEY, THEY LIKED IT BETTER WHEN IT WAS ON ADDISON.
I DUNNO IF THEY COULD SWITCH BACK.
IS IS THAT PART OF YOUR CORE PROGRAM THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? WERE YOU GETTING INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY ON ROUTES OR? NO.
SO THE CORE PROGRAM IS, UH, YES, THERE WILL BE COMMUNITY INPUT ON THAT BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO WHEN YOU'RE DOING ANY SORT OF
BUT, UM, BUT THE CORE PROGRAM IS, IS LOOKING MORE AT IMPROVEMENTS TO SPEED AND RELIABILITY OF OUR, OUR SERVICES.
SO UNLIKELY TO HAPPEN IN A NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE OF SITUATION.
MORE LIKELY TO HAPPEN ON A MAJOR ARTERIAL WHERE THERE'S ALREADY CAPACITY, WHERE THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF TRAVEL, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE USUALLY PLACES WHERE, UM, THE CORE PROGRAM WOULD, WOULD BENEFIT THE MOST.
OTHER QUESTIONS? SO ON THAT QUORUM, UH, QUESTION, THAT CAN'T BE THE ONLY LOCATION THAT DART HAS THAT ISSUE OR THAT CHALLENGE OR ANY OTHER BUS SYSTEM.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER SOLUTIONS LIKE SMALLER BUSES, ELECTRIC BUSES? SO, SO WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SMALLER BUSES.
UM, I WILL ADMIT THAT, UM, OUR BOARD HAS NOT GONE DOWN THE PATH OF ELECTRIC BUSES, UM, YET.
UH, THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THAT.
UM, AND JUST TO QUICKLY GIVE YOU SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE HAVE ABOUT ELECTRIC BUSES, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE GRID, UM, AND CHARGING CAPACITY, UH, THE RANGE, UM, HOW FAR YOU CAN GO, WHICH THESE ARE ALL VERY COMMON FOR A PRIVATE VEHICLE ALSO.
UM, BUT I THINK FOR US, BECAUSE WE'RE OPERATING A FLEET OF 500 ES, UM, IT MATTERS TO US, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN ACTUALLY KEEP IT GOING, UM, IN THE SAME WAY IF IT'S A ONE-TO-ONE SWAP OR NOT, UM, FOR EACH OF US.
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BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY SPEED, I THINK YOU MENTIONED SPEED.I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING FOR US TO BE LOOKING AT BECAUSE WE PUT IN RESTRICTIONS IN CERTAIN AREAS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
UM, AND THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA GET OUT AND TALK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT AND FIGURE OUT LIKE WHAT, WHAT ARE THE REAL PAIN POINTS HERE.
UM, THERE ARE CERTAINLY COMMUNITIES THAT JUST DON'T WANT THE BUS AT ALL.
UM, SOME COMMUNITIES ARE LIKE, WE WANT THE BUS, WE JUST WANT IT TO BE QUIET.
SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S FIGURE OUT WHERE THOSE PAIN POINTS, POINTS ARE AND AND FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN, UH, MITIGATE THOSE.
SO FOR CITIES LIKE DALLAS AND OUR DFW AREA, WHAT, WHAT'S A REALLY GOOD MODEL OF ANOTHER CITY THAT'S THAT WE'RE, THAT YOU WORK TOWARDS THAT WE, WE WOULD LOOK AT IF WE'RE STUDYING FOR THE WHOLE TRANSPORTATION, DARK TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM FOR THE ENTIRE METROPLEX? YEAH, WELL, I MEAN FOR WHAT WE SERVE, WHAT DARK SERVES? UM, WELL, I MEAN I, SO I CAME, UM, ORIGINALLY STARTED IN DENVER, UM, WHEN I STARTED MY TRANSIT CAREER.
UM, I THINK DENVER HAS A LOT OF SIMILARITIES TO THE DALLAS FORT WORTH METRO PLEX IN TERMS OF SIZE AND SCALE, ALTHOUGH THE, THE RTV SERVICE AREA IS ABOUT 2,400 SQUARE MILES BECAUSE THEY GET INTO THE MOUNTAINS AND STUFF.
UM, LOS ANGELES COUNTY WHERE I CAME FROM JUST BEFORE I GOT TO DART, UM, 1400 SQUARE MILES, UM, A HUGE BUS SYSTEM, VERY RELIANT ON THE BUS SYSTEM, HUGELY DENSE, UM, NOT VERY HIGH, BUT VERY DENSE.
UM, AND I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, WHO WE CAN MODEL OURSELVES, OURSELVES AFTER, I, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY VIRTUALLY ANY LARGE METROPOLITAN AREA, UM, THIS AREA, THE DALLAS WORKFORCE, METRO PLEXUS SCHEDULED OR PROJECTED TO, UH, BECOME THE THIRD LARGEST METROPOLITAN AREA IN THE COUNTRY WITHIN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
UM, FOR US TO HAVE THAT KIND OF A, A LABEL, UM, AND NOT HAVE MORE USAGE OF TRANSIT, UM, SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT OUR PRIORITIES.
UM, IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT HOW WE'VE DECIDED TO USE OUR SPACE.
UM, I KEEP WANTING TO GET SOMEBODY WHO'S REALLY GOOD AT GIS TO OVERLAY ANY ONE OF OUR MAJOR INTERCHANGES OVER EVEN THE CITY OF ADDISON OR THE TOWN OF ADDISON.
I'M PRETTY SURE IT WOULD SWALLOW ADDISON.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE, UH, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE US TO THINK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF A FUTURE DO WE WANT FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.
UM, I THINK ADDISON HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB THINKING ABOUT THAT.
I THINK YOU ALL HAVE BEEN PUTTING THINGS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE SERVICES AND, AND, UM, QUALITY OF LIFE AMENITIES FOR YOUR RESIDENTS AND, AND IT, IT SHOWS AND, AND I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GREAT BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE LIKE TO MOVE, ASK.
SO, UM, SO IT'S REALLY TO YOUR CREDIT THAT YOU'RE FORWARD THINKING AND UM, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT THE REST OF METROPLEX WILL COME THAT WAY AS WELL.
UM, SO WHAT KIND OF CIRCULATOR OPTIONS, UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, DO WE HAVE, AND THAT MAY BE A CONVERSATION THAT'S ALREADY GOING ALL OVER THE TOWN, 'CAUSE THAT'S THE LAST MILE.
AND, AND JUST THE END POINTS OF ONE MILE FROM HERE TO THERE IN ADDISON.
YEAH, I MEAN IT'S, I MEAN, IT CAN BE ANYTHING LIKE AN UBER POOL KIND OF SERVICE TO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT LARGER.
I THINK WE WANNA LOOK AT TRAVEL DEMAND, UM, WHAT AREAS YOU'RE TRYING TO SERVE, HOW YOU WANNA SERVE 'EM.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A CIRCULATOR, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT RUNS ALL DAY.
IS IT SOMETHING THAT RUNS DURING THE LUNCH HOUR AND DURING THE EVENING HOURS, YOU KNOW, TO BRING PEOPLE TO THE ENTERTAINMENT VENUES? IS THERE MORE TO IT? UM, DOES IT CONNECT YOUR RECREATION CENTERS, UM, PARKS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THERE'S ANY, ANY NUMBER OF COMBINATIONS YOU CAN LOOK AT.
AND THIS IS SOLUTION THAT DART CAN PROVIDE.
IS THERE, I'M SORRY, IS THAT THAT'S A SOLUTION THAT DART CAN DESIGN AND HELP WITH? I, YEAH, I MEAN I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE DOING THE AREA PLANS IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR CITIES NEED WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARIES SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER THAT IN THE FUTURE.
IS THERE ANOTHER AREA IN THE FW THAT'S ALREADY USING THE CIRCULATOR SUCCESSFULLY? WE DO HAVE SOME CIRCULATORS.
UM, WE, IN FACT, WE WERE JUST TALKING TODAY ABOUT A SITE SPECIFIC SHUTTLE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH TEXAS, TEXAS INSTRUMENTS.
UM, SO WE DO HAVE MODELS LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE NOT, UH, RIGHT NOW, NOT SMALL VEHICLES.
UM, THAT WOULD BE A, A DISTINCTION I WOULD MAKE.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE OPERATING THEM WITH OUR 44 BUSES.
I'LL JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT 'CAUSE CIRCULATORS ARE PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
IT CAME OUT OF OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE HAD PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH DART, UM, BUT DART IS OBVIOUSLY FOCUSED ON THOSE BASICS AS WELL.
AND WE JUST TALKED ABOUT RELIABILITY, SAFETY, THOSE FUNCTIONS.
SO FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE, WE WANT TO TALK WITH DART AND SEE IF THAT MAKES SENSE WITH DART, BUT WE'RE NOT LIMITING OUR DISCUSSIONS JUST TO DART.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF THINGS SO WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY, HERE'S EVERYTHING.
HOW DOES DART FIT IN? IT WOULD BE GREAT TO WORK WITH DART, BUT WE'RE JUST TO LET YOU KNOW FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE KIND OF KEEPING OUR MIND OPEN TO ANY OPTION FOR THAT.
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YOU.I, MANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I WON'T ASK OH, THE QUESTIONS, BUT I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, RIDERSHIP IS UP SOMEWHAT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON, UM, SAY THE AGE RANGE OF THE, I MEAN, IS IT YOUNGER PEOPLE, IS IT OLDER PEOPLE? IS IT IN PARTICULAR LOCATIONS OR WHAT? YEAH.
UM, SO WE DO HAVE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION.
I DON'T HAVE IT HERE, BUT WE'D BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP AND GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION.
ARE YOU LOOKING FOR RIDERSHIP SPECIFICALLY FOR ADDISON OR ARE YOU LOOKING FOR RIDERSHIP ACROSS THE, ACROSS THE SYSTEM.
WE'LL, WE'LL GET YOU THAT INFORMATION.
OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAS ANYBODY AT THIS TABLE RIDDEN THE BUS? YES.
DO YOU HAVE DOES I'VE NEVER RIDDEN THE BUS.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT DART COULD DO TO REACH SOMEBODY LIKE ME THAT I JUST GET IN MY CAR AND GO WHERE AND GO.
I, I'M NOT USED TO DOING MASS TRANSIT.
SO I THINK MAYBE WHAT I SHOULD DO IS, UM, COME UP TO US, KIND TAKE THE RIDE.
I THINK, I MEAN, I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE I'M SURE.
WE THOUGHT WE GET ON A TOUR AT THE SILVER LINE AND WE'LL GET YOU ON BUS ROUND UP.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE REALLY IS, UH, SO BECAUSE I HAVE LIVED IN, I LIVED IN ATLANTA, I LIVED IN PHILADELPHIA WHERE TAKING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION WAS A LOT OF TIMES YOUR YOUR FIRST THOUGHT AND IT'S NOT SO HERE.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M HOPING YOUR QUALITY OF SERVICE, SECURITY, CLEANLINESS CHANGES THE MINDS OF FOLKS AND IT, IT DOES BECOME SOMETHING THEY CONSIDER.
SURE, IT DEFINITELY WON'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE PUT THE THINGS IN PLACE, UM, TO, TO DELIVER ON THAT FUTURE.
UM, WE REALLY, WE REALLY TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO IT.
UM, AND I THINK THAT AS THE REGION GROWS, UM, I KNOW THAT THE PROJECTIONS FROM COG WERE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TO THE REGION, WE'RE GONNA ALL LOCATE OUTSIDE OF THE TRANSIT SERVICE AREAS, BUT THE REAL NUMBERS ARE SHOWING THAT A LOT OF 'EM ARE GOING TO DALLAS.
A LOT OF 'EM ARE GOING TO THE MORE DENSE URBANIZED AREAS IN REALITY.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK WE, WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T TAKE MEASURES NOW, WE'RE GONNA BE FACED WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC CONGESTION OVER WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
I HAVE A SORT OF QUESTION TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
SO WITH CAMERAS, WHICH IT'S ALREADY MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, UM, REALITY IS SORT OF TRANSPARENCY, RIGHT? SO ARE THERE CAMERAS ON THE BUS? SO IF I WERE TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I WANNA LOOK, I HAVEN'T TAKEN A BUS IN 10 YEARS.
I WANT TO GET ONLINE, GO TO A YOUTUBE CHANNEL, I WANNA GO TO YOUR CHANNEL.
CAN I SEE RIDERSHIP? LET'S SAY, ARE YOU TESTING MODELS WHERE YOU LOOK AT RIDERSHIP ON CERTAIN, UM, AREAS WHERE THERE HAS BEEN, LET'S SAY, CLEANLINESS ISSUES IN THE PAST OR SECURITY ISSUES IN THE PAST? SO THAT PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I WANNA CHECK OUT AND SEE HOW CLEAN THOSE BUSES ARE OR HOW SAFE THAT LOOKS TO JOE JUMP ON A BUS.
DO AND ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IN REAL TIME? YEAH, MAYBE NOT IN REAL TIME, BUT YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S TAKING INSTAGRAM VIDEO THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN A TIKTOK THAN A SNAPCHAT THEN LET'S SAY A, A DARK CHANNEL, IT'S CALLED WHERE YOU COULD LIVE FEED INTO POTENTIALLY SEEING EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON LIFETIME.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE CHALLENGING.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS IN REAL TIME, SO I THINK I'LL TALK TO OUR CYBERSECURITY FOLKS, SEE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT I, I DO THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK IT, IT'S NECESSARY FOR US AT SOME POINT TO PUT OUT OUR SCORECARD AND OUR PERFORMANCE METRICS.
AND WE DO HAVE A DASHBOARD RIGHT NOW ON THAT'S AVAILABLE PUBLICLY.
IT DOESN'T GET DOWN TO LIKE THE CLEANLINESS RATINGS.
SO LIKE IF YOUR CLEAN TEAM HAPPENS TO BE, LET'S SAY AS, AS POLICE OFFICERS ARE CAMERAED UP, IF THEY WERE CAMERAED UP AND THEY'RE ON A BUS DOING A CLEANING, THEY COULD GO LIVE FEED, JUST HIT A BUTTON AND YOU'RE STREAMING LIVE, LET'S SAY TO YOUR YEAH.
TO YOUR SECURITY OFFICERS, NOT TO NECESSARILY THE PUBLIC.
ALL, UH, BUT TO CHANGE THAT PERCEPTION THAT MAY BE A, I WOULDN'T SAY AFFORDABLE CAUSE, BUT A TEST, I WOULD TEST THAT THEORY THAT YOU COULD GO LIVE, SO YOU CAN BEAT IT.
I'LL, I'LL ASK BECAUSE I MEAN, WE'RE OPEN TO ALL KINDS OF IDEAS.
I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S AN INSTANT TRANSPARENCY THAT YOU GET WITH SOCIAL MEDIA.
UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK SOME OF THE MESSAGING HAVE BEEN NEGATIVE.
YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY AN INTERESTING QUESTION I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT BEFORE.
BUT, UM, ONE THING THAT WE ARE LOOKING INTO IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE SAW IN RIO NATION HERO, UM, WHERE YOU HAVE THOSE, UM, SORT OF INTERACTIVE SCREENS THAT PEOPLE HAVE, UM, DISPLAY SCREENS THAT GIVE US, YOU KNOW, UH, BUS ARRIVAL TIMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, IN RIO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, INDIVIDUAL TO CALL CUSTOMER SERVICE AGENTS.
LIKE IF IT'S AT NIGHT, LIKE A WOMAN WHO'S WAITING ON HER, UH, SHE CAN CALL A CUSTOMER SERVICE AGENT AND TALK TO THAT PERSON LIVE WHILE SHE'S WAITING FOR THE TRAINER CLASS.
UM, AND THAT JUST ENHANCES THE SECURITY.
SO WE ACTUALLY ARE LOOKING INTO THAT AS PART OF HER SECURITY STRATEGY.
IT MAY NOT HAPPEN ON A KIT, BUT IT, UH,
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IT MIGHT HAPPEN ON YOUR PHONE, BUT HAVING A PAL ON A FRIEND MIGHT BE A GOOD THING.MY EXPERIENCE, UH, WENT BACK IN THE NINETIES WHEN I, UH, WORKED DOWNTOWN.
I RODE THE BUS PROBABLY FOR TWO YEARS EVERY DAY FROM CARROLLTON TRANSIT CENTER DOWNTOWN.
AND IT WAS A VERY GOOD EXPERIENCE.
I MEAN, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE THAT RODE THE BUS AND IT'S CLEAN, SAFE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE WAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC, GUESS WHAT I WAS DOING? I WASN'T DRIVING.
AND IT WAS REALLY NICE AND IT WAS VERY CONVENIENT.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS WE NOT PROBLEM, BUT THE THING IS, IS YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR, YOUR, UM, YOUR HABITS JUST A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE IT WORK.
AND, UH, IT, IT DOES HAVE A REALLY GOOD PLACE, BUT THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR TWO YEARS RIDING DOWNTOWN.
I'LL FOLLOW UP ON, ON THAT TOO, BECAUSE I WORKED DOWNTOWN DALLAS TOO FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND RODE THE BUS AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY BASICALLY RECLAIM SOME TIME.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SITTING THERE, SOMEBODY ELSE IS TAKING CARE OF ALL THE TRAFFIC AND SEEING THAT YOU GET THERE SAFELY AND YOU CAN WORK, YOU CAN DO, YOU KNOW, PERSONAL THINGS.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S VERY EFFICIENT FROM, FROM A, A, A TIME SAVER AND, AND MULTITASKING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS, I WAS SINGLE YOUNG AND, UM, IT, IT, IT FIT THE PURPOSE AND FIT THE NEED QUITE WELL.
AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO FIND PARKING DOWNTOWN PROFESSORS AT UCLA WHO TALK ABOUT CONGESTION A LOT AND, AND THE WAY THEY DESCRIBE IT IS, WELL, YOU CAN, IT'S REALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF TOLLING.
UM, YOU PAY WITH YOUR TIME OR YOUR MONEY, YOU CHOOSE RIGHT.
UM, AND SO IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK DART CAN OFFER PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFIT OF THEIR TIME.
UM, AND IT'S ALSO VERY INEXPENSIVE.
SO, SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.
I, I, THERE'S NOBODY WHO WANTS TO IMPROVE BUS SERVICE AND RAIL SERVICE FOR THAN ME.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE A LOT MORE SERVICE TO ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THING WE CAN DO TO, TO MAKE IT MORE USEFUL.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A BUS COMING EVERY 10 MINUTES, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T, I DON'T GET A SCHEDULE.
SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP PURSUING IT.
I, I'VE GOT JUST A FEW, FEW QUESTIONS, NADINE.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND, UH, AND I'M GLAD YOU ALL ARE REALLY WORKING HARD ON IMPROVING THINGS NOW, UM, BECAUSE NOW, EVEN THOUGH RIDERSHIP MIGHT NOT BE WHERE YOU WANT IT TO BE, AS THE POPULATION OF THE METROPLEX GROWS FROM, ITS EIGHT PLUS MILLION NOW TO 11 OR 12, 25 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, I THINK MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WILL SAY, I GOTTA GET ON THAT TRAIN OR THE BUS BECAUSE I, I CAN'T DRIVE OUT HERE ANYMORE.
SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA, IT IS, IT IS GONNA BE NECESSARY FOR A LOT MORE PEOPLE, I THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE, MIGHT BE NOW.
SO, UM, I KNOW LAST WEEK THAT AT THE RTC, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, INCREASING THE DENSITY AROUND THE RAIL STATIONS THAT MOST OF THE CITIES HAVE NOT DONE A GREAT JOB OF THAT.
UH, AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME ENCOURAGEMENT TO DO THAT.
IS DART GOING TO, GOING TO PARTNER WITH CITIES TO HELP WITH THAT? OR IS THAT, ARE YOU JUST GONNA LET CITIES DO THAT? OR WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO YOU? NO, I SEE IT A HUNDRED PERCENT AS A PARTNERSHIP.
UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE OUR FANTASTIC SPACES GOAL AND THE STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIPS GOAL IS TO SAY, HEY, CITIES, I THINK CAN REALLY DEFINE WHAT YOU ALL WANNA SEE AROUND THE STATIONS.
WHETHER IT'S, AND I'M MAKING THIS UP, THIS MAY NOT BE APPLIC APPLICABLE TO, UH, ADDISON, BUT MAYBE YOU WANT A HIGH RISE, UH, NEXT TO THE STATION.
UM, OR MAYBE YOU WANT SOMETHING THAT'S MID-RISE AND JUST LIKE VERY DENSELY PACKED WITH RETAIL, WITH RESTAURANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, WHATEVER THAT VISION IS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE OPEN TO FIGURING OUT HOW THAT GETS DELIVERED.
WE CAN LEVERAGE LAND RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.
UM, PARTICULARLY WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOTS THAT ARE UNDER UNDERUTILIZED.
UM, AND THEN THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GO AFTER FEDERAL DOD GRANTS, UM, ANY SORT OF MONEY THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE, EVEN IF IT'S ALL PIECES AT A TIME.
UM, BUT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COBBLE TOGETHER THE FUNDING SOURCES TO MAKE THE, MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN.
AND THAT'S WHY WE WANNA HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL THE CITIES IS BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE IN MIND YET.
UM, BUT IF WE KEEP THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION OPEN, WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE TOGETHER.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE COLLABORATING, UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, BUS TRANSFER CENTER, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE ACCOMMODATE THE, THE BUS, UH, FUNCTION WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AND MAKE IT EVERY BIT AS ATTRACTIVE AS ANYTHING ELSE AS, RIGHT.
SO, SO LET'S TALK THROUGH THAT.
'CAUSE THERE ARE WAYS FOR US TO COLLABORATE ON THAT.
AND AS FAR AS LOOKING AT INNOVATIVE IDEAS FOR IMPROVING EFFICIENCY AND THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE, DO YOU, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THERE'S, THERE'S SOME ASSOCIATION OR SOMETHING THAT THE, THE TRANSIT LEADER FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE PART OF THAT Y'ALL, DO YOU ALL COLLABORATE ON THESE KIND OF THINGS AND, AND SHARE IDEAS OR, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
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THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ASSOCIATION, WHICH, WHICH IS A, A US AND CANADA BASED ASSOCIATION, UM, MOSTLY IN THE US.UM, THAT REALLY REPRESENTS ALL TRANSIT AGENCIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
UM, EVERYTHING FROM A SMALL, YOU KNOW, SMALL TOWN BUS, UH, BUS SYSTEM TO MAJOR METROPOLITAN, UM, SYSTEM LIKE MTA IN NEW YORK.
UM, SO WE ARE MEMBERS OF THAT.
AND, UH, WE USUALLY, UH, SPEAK TO OUR COLLEAGUES REALLY AT ANY TIME, AND CERTAINLY AT CONFERENCES.
THERE'S BUS CONFERENCES, RAIL CONFERENCES, ANNUAL CONFERENCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS THAT I AM, UH, THE NORTH AMERICAN CHAIR FOR UITP, WHICH IS THE INTERNATIONAL VERSION OF ACTA.
UM, AND SO, UM, AS THE NORTH AMERICAN CHAIR, UM, I GO TO EXECUTIVE AND POLICY BOARD MEETINGS, UM, AT U IPS COST.
UM, AND I, I GET TO COLLABORATE WITH PROPERTIES AROUND THE WORLD AND TALK ABOUT THEIR TRANSIT SYSTEMS AND THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY BENEFICIAL ABOUT BEING PART OF UIDP IS THAT MOST OF THE PROPERTIES, UM, IN EUROPE AND, AND EVEN IN ASIA, ARE NOT DOING MAJOR CAPITAL EXPANSIONS.
UM, THEY'RE OPERATING AND, UM, AND DART IS IN A POSITION, I MEAN, SILVER LINE, KIND OF THE LAST MAJOR, UH, RAIL EXTENSION THAT WE ARE DOING FOR, FOR SOME TIME.
UM, WE, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME BRT ON THE BOOKS, UM, FOSTER FOR TRANSIT ON BOOKS.
BUT, UM, BUT FOR, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE TRANSITIONING DAR FROM BEING A MAJOR CONSTRUCTION ORGANIZATION TO A BIG OPERATING ORGANIZATION.
AND THAT TRANSITION IS VERY HARD TO DO.
UM, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE SO FOCUSED ON THAT QUALITY OF SERVICE, UM, YOU KNOW, CONNECTIVITY OF OUR SERVICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
'CAUSE IT IS A CRITICAL POINT IN TIME FOR DAR TO REALLY BE ABLE TO SHOW HOW WELL WE CAN OPERATE.
UM, AND SO WE LOOK TO, UM, CITIES OUTSIDE OF THE US QUITE OFTEN TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE DOING IT.
AND THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS THE, UH, THE TWO STUDIES YOU REFERRED TO THE ERNST AND YOUNG AND THE TRANSIT 2.0 ETA ON THOSE IS, RIGHT.
SO THE, THE EY STUDY, UM, SHOULD BE DONE, UH, I THINK WE'RE DOING A PRESENTATION TO THE DART BOARD ON SEPTEMBER 10TH.
UM, SO IT SHOULD BE DONE SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
IN TERMS OF ITS FINAL REPORT, UM, THEY'RE GIVING A PRESENTATION TO THE COURT FIRST, UM, THE REGIONAL TRANSIT STUDY 2.0 OR REGIONAL TRANSIT 2.0 STUDY.
UM, IT IS BEING DELIVERED BY TASK.
SO THE FIRST TASK IS THE LEGISLATIVE, UM, AGENDA OR LEGISLATIVE REPORT, UM, THAT IS COMING SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER.
AND THEN THERE WILL BE SUBSEQUENT DELIVERABLES FOR EACH OF THE, I THINK SEVEN TO NINE TASKS, UM, OVER THE COMING MONTHS.
BUT I THINK THEY ANTICIPATE BEING DONE WITH THE STUDY AROUND, I WANNA SAY MARCH, BUT CERTAINLY SPRING, UM, OF NEXT YEAR.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, NADINE.
UH, YOU KNOW, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE, WE APPRECIATE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH DART, YOU KNOW, FOR 40 YEARS NOW AND, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO JUST GREATER THINGS GOING FORWARD.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SILVER LINING OPENING UP HERE IN, YOU KNOW, A YEAR AND A HALF OR SO.
AND, AND, UH, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND, AND FOR YOUR TIME.
AND PLEASE CALL US ANYTIME IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR YOU'RE GETTING COMPLAINTS FROM YOUR, FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
WE DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO BEAR THEM.
[b. Present and discuss Metrocrest Services grant funding for Fiscal Year 2025.]
WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX B.AND, UH, JUST AS A REMINDER, WE DO HAVE A REALLY FULL WORK SESSION AGENDA.
SO, UH, I KNOW THAT ONE TOOK A LITTLE WHILE, BUT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO COVER THAT AND GET ALL THAT INFORMATION.
SO, UH, WE'LL TRY TO MOVE THROUGH THINGS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
WE MAY PUSH UP, PUSH ONE OF THE ITEMS OR MORE TO THE END OF THE, AFTER OUR REGULAR MEETING TONIGHT.
SO, UH, I'LL GO WITH ITEM SIX B, PRESENT AND DISCUSS METRO CREST SERVICES GRANT FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025, STEVEN.
GREAT, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, STEVEN LITMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
UH, THIS EVENING WE HAVE, UH, TRACY BANKS WITH METRO CREST SERVICES TO PRESENT THEIR, UH, ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT THEY DO.
AND THERE'S AN APPLICATION, UH, REQUEST FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.
IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD THE PREVIOUS THREE NON-PROFITS PRESENTED AT THE MEETING ON JULY 23RD.
AND OVER THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, I WILL PROVIDE THE INFORMATION AS WELL.
BUT WITH THAT SAID, I'M GONNA PASS IT OVER TO TRACY AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU GO ALONG AS WELL.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL, MR. GAIN SITTING THERE.
WE APPRECIATE YOU STEPPING UP, TAKE ON THAT.
APPRECIATE THANKS FOR OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT.
THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT YOU'VE GIVEN US FOR SO MANY YEARS.
UM, UH, ONE PERSON THAT YOU MAY KNOW THAT HAVE RETIRED, I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU KNEW, IS MELANIE MEYER, WHO'S OUR DIRECTOR OF OFFICE RESOURCE.
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TO THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF BASTARD TEXAS.AND SO SHE'S GONE UNDER YOU TO KAREN SPICER.
UH, KAREN WILL COME UP IN A MOMENT, ESPECIALLY THERE, SOME QUESTIONS.
SHE'LL ANSWER THE HARD QUESTIONS.
SO, UH, I ASKED KAREN WHAT HER TITLE WAS, SO YOU BEEN RELATIVELY KNEW WHAT THIS DEAL WAS.
SO SHE'S THE DIRECTOR OF SENIOR PROGRAMS AND HOMELESS OUTREACH.
SO SHE'S HANDLING BOTH THOSE DIVISION SCORES.
SO, DO I NEED TO CLICKER DO I SIR? YES.
SO JUST OVERVIEW OF OUR FUNDING PROPOSAL, UH, WE'RE ASKING, UM, FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THE ANNUAL REQUEST THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE OF 139,009, UH, 6 53.
UH, BUT WE'RE ALSO ASKING, WHICH I'LL COVER FOR THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING SPECIFIC TO HOMELESS OUTREACH, 23,000 OH 68.
WE WORK WITH THE TOWN OF ADDISON AS IT RELATES TO, UM, SERVICES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE ADDISON, UM, PD, FIRE DEPARTMENT STAFF AS IT RELATES TO, UH, DEALING WITH HOMELESS POPULATION.
HOW DO WE, UH, ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE SEEING IN ADDISON AND THE CAUSE YOU'RE GETTING IN ADDISON, HOW DO WE FORMALIZE THE PLAN, ADDING MORE COMMUNICATION IN COORDINATION? SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.
I DO WANT TO JUST SHARE JUST A REMINDER OF WHO METROCREST IS.
YOU KNOW, DURING THE PANDEMIC, UM, A LOT OF FOLKS KIND OF FORGOT WHO WE WERE.
WE BECAME THE DRIVE THROUGH PANTRY.
WE BECAME THE FOLKS KEEPING PEOPLE HOUSED.
AND SO WHO WE REALLY ARE IS MORE OF A HOLISTIC WRAPAROUND APPROACH OF DELIVERING SERVICES.
AND WE'RE BACK TO THAT NOW THAT WE'RE IN A NEW FACILITY.
UM, SO THE KEY ELEMENTS OF WHAT WE DO, UM, ARE HOUSING STABILITY.
WE KNOW WE HAVE TO KEEP PEOPLE HOUSED, UM, AVOID EVICTION, AVOID AVOID NOTICE TO VACATES, UH, AVOID UTILITIES BEING TURNED OFF.
UH, WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE HEALTHY FOOD.
WE'RE DOING THAT THROUGH OUR FOOD PANTRY, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT.
UH, WE JUST FINISHED OUR SAX IN OUR HUNGER PROGRAM, WHICH WE FED ABOUT 750 KIDS, I BELIEVE THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER.
AND WE HAVE A MOBILE FOOD PANTRY AS WELL.
WE'VE ADDED, SO WE COULD GO OUT INTO AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT MAYBE DON'T GET TO US VERY OFTEN.
IT COULD BE A POCKET OF POVERTY, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, A CHURCH OR SCHOOL.
WE STARTED THAT PROBABLY LAST, UH, LAST FALL.
THE BIG PIECE OF WHAT WE DO IS ECONOMIC STABILITY.
OUR, OUR MISSION'S ALL ABOUT BACKGROUND SERVICES, ALL ABOUT SELF-SUFFICIENCY.
ECONOMIC STABILITY IS ALL ABOUT WORKFORCE.
HELPING WITH JOBS, HELPING WITH EDUCATION, GOING BACK TO SCHOOL, BEING TRAINED.
IT'S ABOUT, UH, WORKING ON YOUR BUDGETS, EDUCATION, BIG PIECE OF WHAT WE DO FOR NETWORK COACHING, UH, HELPING WITH SPENDING PLANS, WORKING ON CREDIT SCORES.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF CLASSES IF YOU'VE BEEN OUR NEW FACILITY.
UH, AND I'D LOVE TO GIVE YOU TWO OR VIETNAM.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME CLASSROOMS NOW.
SO WE HAVE CLASS CLASSES ON, UH, BUDGETS, SPENDING PLANS, CREDIT SCORE MANAGEMENT, HOW TO START YOUR OWN SIDE HUSTLE.
PEOPLE DID SECOND INCOME
WE THOUGHT THAT WAS NEVER POSSIBLE.
HOW TO KIND OF REKINDLE THOSE DREAMS. UM, DOING ALL THE JOB FAIRS, HIRING FAIRS.
AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF RIGHT OPPORTUNITIES AT OUR CURRENT LOCATION TO FOCUS MORE ON ECONOMIC STABILITY, WHICH IS THE KEY COMPONENT OF WHO WE ARE.
JUST A FEW CHANGES IN SERVICE DELIVERY IN A WAY.
IT'S GOING BACK TO WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE ON THE EXPANDED NUTRITION PROGRAM SIDE.
DURING THE PANDEMIC, IF YOU NEEDED FOOD, YOU DROVE UP BEHIND OUR BUILDING, YOU OPENED YOUR TRUNK AND GAVE YOU FOOD, YOU HOPED YOU LIKED IT.
SO NOW WE'RE BACK INTO OUR GROCERY STORE TYPE ENVIRONMENT.
YOU GET TO CHOOSE AS PART OF OUR CORE VALUE OF TREATING PEOPLE WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT.
WE DO HAVE THE MOBILE FOOD PANTRY, WHICH I MENTIONED.
WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, HEALTHY FOOD, NUTRITION RELATED INITIATIVES.
ONE IS CALLED THE NUDGE PROGRAM, WHICH IS SOMETHING NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK CREATED.
IT'S HELPING NUDGE PEOPLE TOWARD THOSE HEALTHY ITEMS IN OUR PANTRY OR IN THE GROCERY STORE SHOP.
UM, WE ALSO ADDED A TEACHING KITCHEN, UM, FOR COOKING DEMONSTRATION, HOW TO COOK HEALTHY FOOD.
AND WE HAVE A TEACHING GARDEN ON SITE, ANOTHER GARDEN ON SITE.
WE ALSO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF GARDENING AT OUR NEW FACILITY.
WE KNOW THAT WHILE WE DO A LOT TO KEEP HOUSED FED, WE FIND A JOB.
THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU NEED BEYOND WHAT WE DO TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT AND GAIN ATTENDANCE.
SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE THE HEALTHCARE SPACE.
SO WE'VE ADDED METROCARE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ON SITE.
UH, WE'VE ADDED SOME HEALTHCARE SERIES LIKE THIS.
YOUR HEALTH MATTERS NATIONAL SERIES HAD A SERIES OF SENIORS, CAREGIVERS.
UH, WE HAVE A, UH, UM, NEXT WEEK IS MEDICARE, IS IT NEXT WEEK? MEDICARE, MEDICAID, UH, EVENTS, EDUCATIONAL SESSIONS, AND MEDICARE AND MEDICAID AS WELL.
UH, HOPE COTTAGE COMES TO OUR PLACE TO TEACH PARENTING CLASSES TO YOUNG MOTHERS.
AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT ALL THESE PARTNERSHIPS.
WE'RE ADDING A FEW AS THEY SEEM TO MAKE THE BEST FIT FOR US.
AND SENIOR PROGRAMS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, KAREN'S FOCUSED ON, KINDA REVAMPING OUR APPROACH TO SENIORS.
THEY'RE JUST, IT'S A BEING A SENIOR'S COMPLEX.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT RENT AND FOOD AND MAKING SURE YOU GET YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK.
UH, THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN THAT.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE RECEIVING HEALTHY FOOD, LUNCH, DELIVERING GROCERIES IF NEEDED, MAKING SURE YOU HAVE MOBILITY OPTIONS IN TERMS OF USING DART OR WHATEVER THE TRANSPORTATION PROVIDER IS HELPING YOU, WHERE YOU NEED TO GO.
AND PROVIDING CASE MANAGEMENT WHERE WE HAVE ALONG GREAT RELATIONSHIPS BUILT FOR THOSE THAT WE SERVE.
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SUCCESSES, AGAIN, A YEAR AGO WE HAD OUR GRAND OPENING.WE DON'T MAKE MORTGAGE, WHICH IS GREAT.
WE BUILT A BUILDING IN THE WORST TIME IN THE HISTORY OF MAN TO BUILD A BUILDING.
UH, I CAN HONESTLY SAY AND PROUDLY SAY, WE'RE NOT ON TIME, WE'RE NOT ON BUDGET.
UH, BUT WE'RE THERE AND WE'RE AT FREE.
UH, AND AGAIN, THE COMPLIMENTARY PARTNER PROGRAM IS ALL ABOUT BRINGING OTHER PEOPLE ON SITE WITH US.
WHETHER THEY'RE J SEASONALLY, ESOR BEEN ON SITE, PROVIDE FREE EYEGLASSES.
UM, WE HAVE ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY THERE ONCE A MONTH PROVIDING FOOD BAGS TO CHILDREN THAT THEY SERVE.
BUT NUMBER, NUMBER OF OTHER NONPROFITS THAT, THAT WE SUPPORT.
UM, SO WHO WE SERVE, THIS IS TOTAL FOR LAST YEAR TOTAL AGENCY.
WE SERVE 22,000, LOCAL 22,000 INDIVIDUALS LAST YEAR.
THIS YEAR WE PAY TO, UH, TO SERVE A OVER 23,000.
I WON'T GO TO ALL THE DEMOGRAPHICS, BUT WHAT ALWAYS AMAZES ME IS THE FACT THAT, UM, 34% OF THOSE THAT WE SERVE ARE UNDER THE AGE OF 18.
SO SERVING A LOT OF FAMILIES COMING TO US.
SO 34% THAT NUMBERS CONTINUE TO GROW.
IT USED TO BE ABOUT 28, 20 9%.
SO THAT'S ALWAYS SHOCKING TO ME ABOUT 60% FEMALE.
AGAIN, THIS IS TOTAL FOR US, NOT JUST ADDISON ETHNICITY, ABOUT 66% HISPANIC IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE OVERALL.
YOU'LL SEE THAT CARROLLTON AGAIN REPRESENTS THE LARGEST PIECE OF WHAT WE DO EVERY DAY IS 53% OF THE SERVICES PROVIDED.
UH, ADDISON IS 6% AND IT'S TOTAL 6%.
SO FOR ADDISON, IT COULD BE 10% ON FOOD AND 2% ON RENT.
SO UNFAIR TO 6% TOTAL IN TERMS OF PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE.
THIS IS A KIND OF TREND FROM WE ALL TALK ABOUT PRE PANDEMIC.
SO THE YEAR BEFORE, UH, THE PANDEMIC, UH, WE SERVE ABOUT 585 ADDISON RESIDENTS EACH YEAR.
AND YOU SAW THAT THAT DOUBLED IN YEAR ONE OF THE PANDEMIC LIKE IT DID FOR EVERY, EVERY CITY, UH, EVERYWHERE.
AND SO WE THOUGHT, WE ASSUMED THAT WE SEE THE SPIKE A THOUSAND PLUS 1100 PLUS, AND WE START SEEING DECLINE.
SO SMALL DIP IN FISCAL YEAR 22, THE INFLATIONARY WOES AT THAT TIME PERIOD REALLY SPIKE THINGS BACK UP AGAIN.
SO WE STAYED AT VERY HIGH LEVEL.
THIS CHART IS EXACT SAME IN TERMS OF THE TREND OF FARMERS BRANCH CARROLLTON,
UH, THIS YEAR WE'RE ANTICIPATING SERVING 1,316 ADDISON RESIDENCE.
SO WE'VE HIGHER, YOU WOULD'VE THOUGHT, UM, AGAIN, THAT 1316, ABOUT 6% OF ALL THAT WE SERVE.
UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOMELESSNESS IN A MINUTE.
SO ABOUT 12 TO 15% OF THE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WE SERVE.
AS, SO WE DO SPEND MORE TIME IN ADDISON, UM,
JUST A FEW THINGS I WANT TO QUICKLY JUST, I TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE SERVED IN ADDISON 1,316 AND WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO SHARE, BUT 85 X AND HOUSEHOLDS WERE ABLE TO HELP THEM AVOID EVICTION BY PAYING RENT AND UTILITY BILLS.
SPEND ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THEY
OVER A THOUSANDS, 1100 ADDISON RESIDENTS FREQUENTED ON FOOD PANTRY, UH, DISTRIBUTED BY A HUNDRED, THREE 33,000 POUNDS OF FOOD.
ADDISON RESIDENTS, ECONOMICS, STABILITY.
THIS IS AN AREA OF FOCUS FOR US, I THINK IS AS I DO THIS PRESENTATION IN THE FUTURE FOR YOU, YOU'LL SEE THESE NUMBERS TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE AS WE RAMP UP, UH, OUR FINANCIAL EDUCATION PROGRAM, ADDING MORE CLASSES, MORE FINANCIAL COACHES, AS WELL AS, UH, DEVELOP A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
WE'VE HAD A PROGRAM FOR MANY YEARS WHERE WE'RE RAMPING UP A MORE WORKFORCE SPECIALIST.
WE WORKED WITH THE, UH, TOWN OF ADDISON HR TO MAKE SURE WE GET JOB POSTINGS.
SO WE'LL MAKE SURE WE WORK WITH QUALITY EMPLOYERS TO MAKE SURE THOSE WE SERVE, FIND GREAT EMPLOYMENT, PREFERABLY WITH BENEFITS, PREFERABLY WITH PAID
SO THAT WHAT I, WHAT I PRESENTED TO YOU REALLY WAS WHAT I WOULD'VE PRESENTED IF WE WERE ASKING A, REQUESTING THE SAME FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED THE CURRENT YEAR.
SO THIS RELATES TO ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD IN TERMS OF $23,068.
IT KIND OF TELLS YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'VE HELPED, UH, THIS YEAR, UH, YEAR TO DATE.
SO THIS OCTOBER THROUGH, UH, JUNE, I BELIEVE IT WAS 52 UNSHELTERED RESIDENTS, ADDISON RESIDENTS, THAT TIME.
UM, WE SERVED LAST YEAR, WE SERVED OVER THE COURSE OF THE ENTIRE YEAR.
BY 65, WE WOULD EXPECT TO BE ABOUT THE SAME, ABOUT 20 INDIVIDUALS BENEFITED FROM DIVERSION SERVICES.
AND SO I ADDED A DEFINITION OF DIVERSION.
HOW DO WE DIVERGE SOMEBODY OUT OF HOMELESSNESS? SO OUR HISTORY IS ALL ABOUT PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS.
IT'S A LOT EASIER TO PAY SOMEONE'S RENT TO KEEP THEM HOUSED AS OPPOSED TO WAIT FOR AN EVICTION THAN FIND A WAY TO GET THEM REHOUSED.
IT'S QUITE COSTLY, A BIGGER INVESTMENT.
SO HOW DO WE WORK PEOPLE? SO OUR MISSION HISTORICALLY HASN'T BEEN, LET'S MAKE
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SURE WE GET THAT RENT PAID AND WORK ON SOLUTIONS TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T LOSE YOUR HOUSING AND AVOID HOMELESSNESS.NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ACTUALLY ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
SO THE KEY IS HOW DO WE MAKE HOMELESSNESS RARE AND VERY BRIEF? AND SO HOW DO WE DIVERT THAT SITUATION? UM, SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT WE DO THAT.
IT COULD BE YOU THINK ABOUT HOUSING WISE AND OBVIOUSLY WE LOVE GET, GET HOUSED.
IT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS BUS PASS.
UM, I REMEMBER ONE YEAR DOING THE POINT TIME COUNT HERE IN ADDISON, RUNNING ACROSS A GENTLEMAN, UM, DOWN ON GUT LINE.
AND MIDWAY THAT GENERAL AREA, YOUNG MAN, I DON'T THINK IT WAS A YEAR MARLON, THAN YOU WERE WITH VEGAS BEFORE THAT.
AND UM, I ASKED HIM HOW DID HE GET TO ADDISON IT ALL THE
HE FOLLOWED HIS GIRLFRIEND TO ADDISON AND SUBSEQUENTLY SHE MOVED ON WITHOUT HIM.
AND HE WANTED TO GO BACK TO SHREVEPORT.
WELL, I COULD HAVE PUT HIM UP IN LODGING, WE COULD HAVE DONE ALL KINDS OF THINGS, BUT HE JUST WANTED TO GO HOME.
AND SO DIVERSION TACTIC WAS LET'S PAY FOR A BUS PASS AND SEND THAT GUY HOME.
WE PROVIDE BUS PASSES TO GET PEOPLE ALL PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING RECENTLY IN NEW YORK CITY SINCE FOLKS BACK, BACK TO NEW YORK.
SO IT COULD BE TEMPORARY HOUSING, IT COULD BE DOCUMENT ASSISTANCE.
A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT WE SERVE AND MOVE FORWARD, IF THEY COULD JUST GET THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE, A BIRTH CERTIFICATE, A SOCIAL SECURITY CARD.
UM, SO WE HELP DOCUMENT ASSISTANCE.
AND OFTEN IT'S A MATTER OF CONNECTING SOMEBODY WITH OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS OR GROUPS, FRIENDS.
UM, MAYBE THEY FEEL LOST, MAYBE THERE'S LOST CONNECTIONS.
HOW DO WE HELP CONNECT? SO, UM, IT IS A, UM, IT'S NOT A SIMPLE FIX.
USUALLY IN THESE CASES, WE'RE MEETING FOLKS FOR THE FIRST TIME.
WE'RE HAVING TO GO BACK OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AND THAT'S WHAT OUR TEAM IS DOING.
SO THE TEAM THAT WE HAVE IS ESSENTIALLY A STREET OUTREACH TEAM THAT IS TWO STREET OUTREACH SPECIALISTS ON STAFF THAT ARE OUT EVERY DAY.
AND SO SHE'S BEEN UNDER IN THE WOODS AND UNDER BRIDGES RECENTLY, PROBABLY.
UH, WE HAVE CASE MANAGEMENT HELPING FOLKS KIND OF NAVIGATE THE RESOURCES THAT WERE AVAILABLE.
UM, BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE FOLKS THAT, SO THEY TRUST US.
UH, AND THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMING IN AND PROVIDING EDUCATION TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, FIRST RESPONDERS, UH, WE'RE DOING, WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR WHILE
I THREW ON A SLIDE, UM, FROM HOUSING FORD.
I KNOW YOU HAD A PRESENTATION ON HOUSING FORD.
BUT I HERE AND JUST WANNA SHOW THE MODEL.
WE ARE PART OF THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION.
SO ALL THE NON-PROFITS AND NEIGHBORS, GOVERNMENT, GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES THAT HAVE HOMELESS SERVICES.
WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO FIND SOLUTIONS.
SO WE'RE MORE ABOUT OUTREACH, BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS, HELPING WITH SOME DIVERSION.
ARE THEY CONNECTING YOU WITH OTHER RESOURCES? AND SO WE'RE ABOUT ASSESSING NEEDS.
WE'RE MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE IN THE WOODS OF YOUR BRIDGE, BEHIND THE CONVENIENCE STORE, GETTING TO KNOW THEM, WHAT ARE NEEDS.
UM, AND THEY MAY, WE CAN'T PREDICT THE NEEDS.
YOU DON'T JUST ASSUME I'M READY TO BE HOUSED AS OFTEN.
THAT'S NOT THE CASE AS REASON.
AND WE NAVIGATE TO THE APPROPRIATE INTERVENTION.
AND SO THAT COULD BE, COULD BE A SHELTER, IT COULD BE HELPING US DOCUMENTS, IT COULD BE ACCESSING HEALTHCARE.
THIS COULD BE PROVIDING, UM, TOUT HERE.
THEY'LL GET TO WHERE YOU NEED TO GO.
A LOT OF THE FOLKS WHO WORK WITH THEIR HOMELESS HAVE JOBS OF SOME SORT, BUT NO TRANSPORTATION.
AND SO WE'LL PROVIDE BUS PASSES THAT WILL HELP THOSE INCOME.
WE ALSO, THIS IS, THIS IS RANDOM, BUT WE ALSO ACCEPT PEOPLE'S MAIL.
SOME OF OUR FOLKS THAT ARE LOOKING TO GET SOME BENEFIT CHECKS THAT MAYBE ARE DUE TO THEM BUT DON'T HAVE AN ADDRESS, WE HAVE THEIR ADDRESS COME BY AND PICK UP THEIR COMPANY.
UM, THIS REQUIRES A LOT OF PARTNERSHIPS.
AND SO WE WORK WITH HEALTHCARE PARTNERS.
I MENTIONED A FEW OF THEM EARLIER.
WOVEN WHO YOU WORK WITH, I BELIEVE.
UM, WHO ELSE WE WORK WITH, UH, PARKLAND.
JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES, I THINK IS UNDER AGENDA LATER TONIGHT.
SHELTERS LIKE AUSTIN STREET, FAMILY GATEWAY, EMPLOYMENT SERVICES, LIKE SOME OF THAT ARE SECOND CHANCE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE WITH CRIMINAL BACKGROUND.
SENIOR SOURCE HELPS PROVIDE, UM, EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO AND WORKING WITH STAFF ON HOW DO WE FORMALIZE OUR RELATIONSHIP TO CREATE SOME LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, NOT JUST FOR US, FOR ALL PARTIES, AS A PLACE TO WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM.
IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO COORDINATION AND COMMUNICATION.
UM, MORE MEETING, I BELIEVE KAREN ACTUALLY ATTENDED ONE TODAY, UM, WITH YOUR STAFF, UM, ABOUT, JUST TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT AREAS, CHALLENGES THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AS IT RELATES TO POCKETS OF HOMELESSNESS IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, CREATING A PROCESS SO YOU CAN TELL US WHAT YOUR FINDINGS, WHEN A POLICE OFFICER CAN TELL US FROM IN THE FIELD WHAT THEY'RE SEEING AND WHERE THAT MAYBE HOME INDIVIDUAL MIGHT BE.
SO WE HAVE ADDED A FORM ON OUR WEBSITE THAT SOMEBODY FELT THE BASIC FORM SAYING THAT HOMELESS GENTLEMAN, UH, BY, BY THE PANERA OVER HERE.
PANERA, RIGHT OVER HERE, RIGHT HERE OUTSIDE THE CONFERENCE CENTER.
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OUT THE FORM SAYING THE GENTLEMAN HERE, HE NEEDS SOME ASSISTANCE.UM, PARTNER STREET OUTREACH, US GOING OUT WITH YOU, YOU GOING OUT WITH US TO DO STREET OUTREACH.
AND THEN HOMELESS RESPONSE TRAINING.
WE'VE DONE SOME TRAINING ALREADY IN THE PAST.
WE'LL DO MORE TRAINING PLACED LESSNESS, HOW OUR STAFFS KNOW ABOUT HOMELESSNESS, HOW TO DO SITUATIONS.
UH, FOR THE MOST PART, WE PROVIDE NEXT DAY RESPONSE, I THINK IS WHAT I HEARD, UH, FROM STAFF HERE IN
UM, AND ONE BIG THING I THINK TOO IS JUST YOU HAVE ACCESS TO OUR FLEX FUND PROGRAM.
I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE A FLEX FUND TO DO THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE JUST WON'T DO, CAN'T DO.
UH, WE'RE WILLING TO TRY ANYTHING TO HELP FOLKS.
IF YOU NEED A PAIR OF WORK, BUT YOU NEED DO SHOES, YOU NEED, UM, BLANKETS, YOU NEED, WE NEED, WE PAY FOR GOOGLE BEFORE FOR FOLKS.
UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO BARRIERS TO MOVING FOLKS FORWARD.
AND UH, WE, WE CAN'T EVEN SAY THE METRO CREST ESSENTIALLY IS FLEX FUND, MEANING WE'RE VERY CREATIVE IN TERMS OF FINDING SOLUTIONS.
AND WE DO THAT FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH.
ADD, UM, I DO WANT KAREN TO COME UP 'CAUSE I WANT HER TO TELL YOU A QUICK STORY ABOUT ADDISON, UM, HOMELESS CLIENT THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH RECENTLY.
AND THEN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IN WHICH SARAH, WHO'S HELPED ME WITH THIS, IF SHE HAS ANY COMMENTS, SHE'D LIKE TO MAKE BREAK, FEEL FREE.
SO I ASKED THE STAFF IF RECENTLY WE HAD DEALT WITH ANY, UM, SITUATIONS FROM ADDISON.
AND THEY GAVE ME A STORY OF CORPORAL GONGOS, UH, REACHED OUT TO HIM ABOUT A FAMILY OF FOUR, TWO PARENTS AND TWO KIDS IN A CAR.
THEY FOUND HIM BEHIND THE HOTEL OVER HERE OFF OF MIDWAY, UM, AROUND THE STARBUCKS AREA.
AND IT WAS A FAMILY IN CRISIS.
THEY CAN MOVE TO DALLAS FOR JOBS.
THEY WERE LIVING WITH A FAMILY MEMBER.
THE FAMILY MEMBER WAS EVICTED.
THEY LOST THEIR JOBS AND SAID NUMBER TO STAY.
THEY COULDN'T AFFORD TO TAKE 'EM TO SUBLEASE IF THEY'RE LIVING IN THEIR CAR.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO GO OUT AND SPEND SOME TIME WITH THAT FAMILY.
NOT ONLY CAN WE FEED THEM, YES WE COULD PUT THEM IN A HOTEL, BUT WE'RE NOT POLICE OFFICERS.
SOMETIMES THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF GOING OUT AND TALKING TO THEM.
SOMETIMES I HAVE A YOUNG CASE MANAGER GOING OUT AND TALKING TO PEOPLE.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO TALK TO THEM AND WE FOUND OUT THEY HAD FAMILY SUPPORT IN ANOTHER STATE.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO CALL THE FAMILY WITH THEM.
WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS FOR THEM TO DRIVE OUT TO THE FAMILY.
WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE THEM GAS.
WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE HOTEL MONEY FOR THE WAY WE PUT 'EM UP IN LODGING.
'CAUSE THE FAMILY COULDN'T TAKE 'EM FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP 'EM OFF THE STREET, KEEP LONG TERM PROBLEM, AND KEEP THAT FAMILY TOGETHER AND KEEP THOSE CHILDREN WITH THEIR PARENTS.
SOMETIMES WHEN WE THINK OF HOMELESS, AND PLEASE, I UNDERSTAND IT WHEN WE SEE PEOPLE UNDER THE BRIDGE, HOW TERRIFYING THAT IS.
AND, AND, AND MY FOUR CHILDREN ARE GROWN UP IN AN ENVIRONMENT OF IF YOU DON'T GO TO SCHOOL AND YOU DON'T HAVE A JOB, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT THAT WE GREW UP WITH.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO STOP AND REMEMBER WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF FAMILIES, WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF YOUNG ADULTS THAT JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO SURVIVE IN THIS ECONOMIC MARKET RIGHT NOW.
AND AS I TELL TRACY EVERY DAY, HE HEARS FROM ME, I HAVE 85 SENIOR CITIZENS ON FIXED INCOME THAT ARE BEING CASE MANAGED RIGHT NOW.
NOW WE HAVE 85, 83 OF 'EM HAVE ONE FOOT IN HOME.
THEY'RE HARDWORKING INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BEING PRICED OUT OF THE MARKET.
THEY'RE FIXED INCOME ISN'T GOING UP TO MATCH THEIR HOUSING.
SO THIS IS A VERY PASSIONATE TOPIC FOR US WHEN WE DEAL WITH HOMELESSNESS.
WE WANNA GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREET.
WE WANNA GET 'EM TO SAFE HOUSING, SAFE SHELTERING.
WE WANNA GET 'EM THE MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH ATTENTION THAT THEY NEED.
AND WE WORK WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM A LOT TO DO THAT AND GET THEM OFF THE STREET.
'CAUSE ONE FAMILY SPENDING THE NIGHT IN THE CAR, WE BE DETRIMENTAL AND TRAUMATIC.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE IS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE NEW WAVE OF HOMELESSNESS, WHICH ARE OUR SENIOR CITIZENS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH.
SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PREVENT THAT.
WE'RE WORKING WITH MANY SHELTERS.
I'M ARGUING AND FIGHTING AND BEGGING AND PLEADING EVERY DAY FOR A SPECIALTY SENIOR UNIT AND A SHELTER BECAUSE IT'S VERY DUR VULNERABLE POPULATION.
WE'RE DOING ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
AND, UM, TRACY BLESS THIS
SO IF THERE IS A SITUATION THAT YOU NEED HELP WITH, DON'T HESITATE TO CALL.
WE'RE WE'RE GONNA GET TOGETHER.
WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH CREATIVE SOLUTION.
MAY TAKE A FEW DAYS TO GET THEM TO BE END RESULT, BUT WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING IMMEDIATELY JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS SAFE.
IF YOU WANNA RIDE ALONG WITH US AT ANY TIME, FEEL FREE.
UM, WE'RE OUT EVERY MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY.
DROP-IN HOURS ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS RIGHT NOW TO HANDLE THE INFLUX OF MEETING, BUT WE'RE THERE FOR YOU.
I'LL GET TWO AND ONE MAYBE FOR SARAH AND DAVID FIRST.
UM, REPORTING WISE, WHEN, WHEN OUR RESIDENTS, UH, SEE SOMEBODY POSSIBLY IN NEED HOMELESSNESS, HOW DO, HOW DO WE, HOW BEST DO WE WANT THAT REPORTED? I'VE BEEN USING THE ADDISON FIX IT APP AND I NOTICED WE ADDED, ADDED AN OPTION YEAH.
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TO DO THAT.BUT HOW, SO I'LL, I'LL START AND THEN I'LL SARAH JUMP IN.
BUT I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY WHERE WE HAVE FOCUSED FOCUSED AND THAT, AND THAT SAME MESSAGE WE OUT SO WE CAN HAVE THIS HOLISTIC RESPONSE.
BUT UM, OBVIOUSLY WE HAD THIS APP AND, AND THIS THIS NEW MECHANISM.
I'LL LET SARAH KINDA SPEAK TO MAYBE SOME THOUGHTS ON, ON HOW THAT GOES TOGETHER.
RIGHT NOW I'D SAY THROUGH THE FIXIT APP, AND THEN WE'LL WORK IN PARTNERSHIP TO PROMOTE THIS.
WE WANNA PROMOTE IT THE RIGHT WAY OF WHEN SHOULD YOU REPORT FOREST STREET OUTREACH? UM, OR IF IT NEEDS AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE, IF IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN OR SOMETHING THAT MAY BE A NON-EMERGENCY PD CALL, UM, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY IS POTENTIALLY IN TRAFFIC OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES THAT RESPONSE.
SO WE JUST WANNA PUT THE RIGHT COMMUNICATION AROUND IT OF WHEN AND HOW TO REPORT.
CAN I, I WOULD JUST SAY IF YOU SUBMIT IT TO THE FIXIT APP, WE WORK OUR STAFF WORKING WITH METROCREST.
SO I I WOULD PROBABLY STILL TELL 'EM JUST TO GO TO THE FIXIT APP BECAUSE ONCE IT COMES TO US, WE CAN ENSURE AND WE CAN KIND OF DO A LITTLE TRIAGE AND SAY WHAT IS THE BEST MECHANISM.
AND I'M JUST THINKING OF THE IT APP, LIKE, UH, IT USED TO BE COMMUNITY POLICING.
IT'S, WHAT IS IT NOW? UH, POLICE NON-EMERGENCY
SO, SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, I'LL, I'LL SUBMIT SOMETHING LIKE, LIKE GRAFFITI OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN AS I GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, IT'S REALLY GOOD BECAUSE IT, IT SAYS, I THINK IT GIVES ME A LITTLE, UH, LITTLE THOUGHT LIKE, HEY, IF THIS IS AN EMERGENCY CALL THIS NUMBER.
UM, CAN WE CONSIDER MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITHIN THE APP? YES, MA'AM.
WE CAN CHANGE THE CANNED RESPONSES.
I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE A CANNED RESPONSE FOR THE HOMELESSNESS CATEGORY.
IF THIS IS AN ORDINANCE VIOLATION AND PROCESS OR REQUIRES AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE, PLEASE CALL THE PD NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER.
AND THEN, AND THEN THE OTHER, UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I'VE GOT IS, UH, ONE OF THESE SLIDES WAS SHOWN 52 UNSHELTERED RESIDENTS, OF WHICH I THINK 20 OF YOU ALL WERE ABLE TO HELP WITH DIVERSION.
UM, AND YOU, YOU EXPLAINED PERFECTLY THE, THE ONE, THE ONE FAMILY WITH FOUR IN A CAR.
IS THAT, UM, IS THAT KIND OF THE TYPICAL FOR, FOR WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN ADDISON? YES.
IS IT, IS IT AN UNSHELTERED MEANING LIKE IN A CAR? I, I REALIZE THAT THERE'S VARIOUS SITUATIONS, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY TIGHTLY CONNECTED WITH OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE GET PHONE CALLS PRETTY QUICKLY.
THE THE BIGGEST CRISIS THAT WE'RE SEEING ARE FAMILIES RIGHT NOW, WHETHER TWO PARENT FAMILY OR A SINGLE PARENT FAMILY, IT'S A FAMILY THAT HAS COME TO A STARBUCKS.
IT'S COME TO A RESTAURANT HERE AND THEY PARK THEIR PARTY.
'CAUSE IT'S SAFE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? I LIVED IN THIS COMMUNITY, MY KIDS WENT TO SPORTS COMMUNITY.
I WANNA STAY IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I'M GONNA PARK BEHIND THE TARGET SO NO ONE WILL SEE ME.
SO WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF CALLS FOR THOSE TYPES OF PEOPLE.
THOSE PEOPLE HAVE NEVER BEEN INTO A SHELTER BEFORE.
SO IT'S VERY FRIGHTENING AND IT'S VERY SCARY.
WHEN WE APPROACH, OFTENTIMES WE WEAR BIG RED SHIRTS AND SAY STRAIGHT OUTREACH SO THAT THEY CAN SEE WE'RE NOT POLICE OFFICERS, BUT WHAT CANNED RESPONSE OR THE TYPICAL RESPONSE IS, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE MY CHILDREN AWAY FROM ME.
SO WE ARE SEEING A HUGE UPSWING IN THAT.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE OPENING OUR DROP-IN HOURS AT THE CENTER BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T KEEP UP WITH IT OUT, OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO DEAL WITH THE CRISIS.
WE NEED TO FEED THE KIDS, WE NEED TO GET ONLINE TO SEE IF THERE'S A FAMILY SHELTER AVAILABLE.
AS OF THIS LAST WEEKEND, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN EIGHT WEEK WAITING LIST FOR ANY FAMILY SHELTERS.
AND THEY'RE NOT THAT MANY, THAT AREA.
SO WE'RE TRIAGING THE BEST THAT WE CAN, BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY THE UPSTREAM, YES, WE ALWAYS HAVE OUR SINGLE MALES AND FEMALES COMING THROUGH THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE STREET LONGER THAN WE WISH THEY HAD BEEN.
AND THOSE, WE DO OUR BEST TO MOVE THEM TO THE APPROPRIATE PLACES.
BUT OUR BIGGEST CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS THEY HAVE SOME FAMILIES AND CARS.
NANCY, ON, UM, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU MADE ON DIVERSION SERVICES, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A FORMAL DEFINITION OR WHAT, BUT, UM, YOU DON'T, YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TO BE HOMELESS YET, RIGHT? I MEAN, TO RECEIVE DIVERSION SERVICES, YOU CAN JUST BE CLOSE, LIKE YES.
YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY HAS A SMALL LANDSCAPING COMPANY AND THEIR LAWN MOW BROKE, YOU KNOW THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE IF YOU PROVIDED THEM WITH FUNDS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
UM, THEY, HIS LIVING, WE LOOK AT CLIENTS AS A WHOLE AND IF SOMEONE'S TELLING US THEY CAN'T AFFORD WHERE THEY LIVE, THEIR TRANSPORTATION, THEIR JOB, WHATEVER, THE LAWNMOWER IS BROKEN, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S AN EVICTION EMINENT, WHETHER IT'S TODAY OR IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.
WE TALK TO, WE START CONVERSION WITH EVERYBODY.
WE TALK ABOUT NETWORKING, WE TALK ABOUT POSITIVE NETWORKING, WE TALK ABOUT FRIENDS, FAMILY, COMMUNITY
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RESOURCES, CHURCH PARTNERS.UM, WE GET ALL KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, PTAS, SCHOOL CASEWORKERS.
SO WE TALK DIVERSION WITH EVERYBODY AND WE ARE WILLING, IF YOU'RE TELLING ME I'M NOT GONNA MAKE IT, I'M GONNA GET EVICTED, WE'LL DO THE DIVERSION PRIOR TO THE EVICTION MANAGER.
I MEAN, THE, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE COST MM-HMM.
STRESS LEVEL IN SOME SPACE AND EMOTIONAL, YES, YOU HAVE A PLACE TO GO.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE FOCUS ON WITH EVERY CLIENT THAT WALKS INTO THE DOOR.
NOW, THE FUNDS THAT YOU HAVE FOR, UM, DIVERSION SERVICES ARE, ARE THEY, ARE THEY RESTRICTED TO THOSE? OR HOW, HOW IS THAT HANDLED? YEAH, SO, UM, FOR THE MOST PART WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE IN STRATEGY FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FUNDRAISE, THAT WE FUNDRAISE AS MUCH WHAT WE CALL GREATEST NEED FUNDS.
AND SO WE DO HAVE RESTRICTED FUNDS FOR CERTAIN THINGS.
CERTAIN FOUNDATIONS, FOR INSTANCE, WILL SAY, WE WANT TO CHOOSE FOOD WE WANTED USED FOR HOUSING AND YOUR WORKFORCE.
BUT I WOULD SAY EVEN OVER 50% OF THE MONEY THAT WE BRING IN IS UNRESTRICTED FUNDS.
AND THAT'S CRITICAL FOR THE HEALTH OF A NONPROFIT TO GIVE YOU FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WE CAN PAY YOUR PHONE BILL TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A ALIGNED ANSWER WHEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR WORK.
AND SOMEONE CALLS YOU VERSUS OTHER NON-PROFITS MAKING DIFFERENT, UM, DIFFERENT SPACES LIKE MENTAL HEALTH.
THEY'RE VERY RELIANT ON ONE FUNDER.
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, FOR INSTANCE, LESS FLEXIBILITY.
SO, UM, WE ARE CREATING THE IMAGE OF A FLEX FUND WITHIN OUR STAFF BECAUSE IT'S HARD FOR PEOPLE TO WORK IN THIS GRAY AREA WE LOVE RIGHT HERE.
BUT IT'S, IT, SO WE, WE, WE ARE ACTUALLY PUTTING MONEY IN A BUCKET, YOU KNOW, THIS ACCOUNTING BUCKET AND SAYING, WE CAN DO ALL THESE GREAT GREAT THINGS WITH THESE FLEX FUNDS.
JUST TELL US WHAT YOU THINK YOUR CLIENT NEEDS.
BE AN ADVOCATE, FIGHT FOR YOUR CLIENT.
UM, AND THEY JUST NEED A MOWER FIX TO BE ABLE TO STAY HOUSED.
WHAT AN EASY AND CHEAP THING TO DO.
SO OFTEN, I MEAN, I COULDN'T EVEN EVEN TELL YOU IT HAPPENS.
JUST THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STANDING ON THE CORNER AT THE STOP SIGN STOP LIGHTS, ARE THEY HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE, ARE THEY, IS THAT THEIR JOB? I MEAN, DO YOU SERVE THOSE PEOPLE TOO? YES.
SO IF THEY'RE HOMELESS AND THEY MIGHT BE THEIR JOB, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO KNOW.
SO DO YOU APPROACH THOSE PEOPLE AND TRY TO SEE WHY THEY'RE DOING THAT AS OPPOSED TO A DIFFERENT KIND OF JOB? SO WE APPROACH THEM AND I THINK ANYONE THAT WALKS UP AND TALKS TO SOMEONE ON THE STREET CORNER WILL UNDERSTAND.
IT TAKES A WHILE FOR THEM TO TRUST YOU BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN TOLD BEFORE, HEY, COME WITH ME AND I'LL TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING.
SO WE TRY TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP AND WE TALK TO 'EM ABOUT DIVERSION.
WE ASK 'EM WHERE THEY COME FROM, WHAT ARE THEY DOING, WHAT ARE THEIR EDUCATIONAL SY YOU KNOW, BACKGROUND, WHAT IS THEIR JOB BACKGROUND? WHERE ARE THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS? WE TRY TO BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP SO THAT WE CAN SAFELY MOVE 'EM OFF THAT STREET CORNER.
WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN WE'RE WORKING WITH RIGHT NOW, UM, Y'ALL KNOW WHO HE IS.
WE TALKED ABOUT HIM THIS MORNING.
HE'S A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT AT AMAZON.
MULTIPLE LOSSES IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
IT WAS COVID ISOLATION AND HE'S JUST, HE'S NOT ABLE TO GET BACK ON HIS FEET.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WHY, AND IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF THINGS TO, TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND HIM.
BUT HE'S NOW TO THE POINT WHERE HE'S LIKE, HEY KAREN, WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY? AND WE'RE TALKING AND WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, IS IT TIME TO GO INTO SHELTER? KAREN SHELTERS ARE DANGEROUS.
WELL, AT ONE POINT HE'S GONNA BE, HE'S GONNA SAY YES.
SO WE'LL GET HIM INTO SOME TYPE OF LODGING, HOUSING PROGRAM, SOMETHING, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE.
AND YES, HE IS PANHANDLING THE ROAD.
WHAT WE TALK ABOUT WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE PANHANDLING IS, IT'S NOT SAFE FOR YOU.
YOU DON'T NEED A PANHANDLE, WE CAN FEED YOU.
LET'S FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE ELSE OUT.
SO WE TRY TO MEET THEM WHERE THEY'RE AT.
WE TRY TO GIVE 'EM SUGGESTIONS.
WE TRY TO FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT SAFE FOR YOU TO BE OUT HERE.
I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU IT'S AN EASY ONE.
UM, FOR YOUR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OUT ON THE STREET FOR 10 OR 15 YEARS, IT TAKES US 10 OR 15 YEARS TO ACCLIMATE A BACK INTO SOCIETY.
YOU CAN'T JUST DROP 'EM IN AN APARTMENT AND EXPECT 'EM TO BE OKAY.
SO THAT'S WHERE IT REALLY HELPS TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY REACH OUT TO US AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE PEOPLE OUT ON THE STREET CORNER ASKING ALONG WITH THEIR CHILD CAN HANDLING.
LET US COME APPROACHING AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO FIRST BEFORE WE BECOMES AN ISSUE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE OTHER THINGS TO DO.
THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN GREAT IN ASSISTING US.
THEY WILL ALWAYS BE GOOD IN ASSISTING US, BUT LET US DO THAT PIECE TO GET 'EM OFF THAT STREET CORNER.
IT, IT JUST IS OF THE WAVE OF THE, THE HOMELESS RIGHT NOW GETTING, AGAIN, IT SEEMS TO BE THE WAY THEY MAKE MONEY.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN
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TO GET STABILIZED AND CONNECTED TO WORKFORCE.WE GET TRAINING PROGRAMS, HAVE GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH AUSTIN STREET AND GATEWAY, WHATEVER WE CAN TO GET ALONG THAT CORNER AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
DO YOU RECOMMEND THAT PEOPLE IN THEIR CARS AND MONEY TO THEM? THAT'S VERY CONTROVERSIAL.
I, I PERSONALLY CHOOSE TO GIVE MY MONEY TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S GONNA LOOK AT THEM HOLISTICALLY.
BUT IF SOMEONE IS SITTING IN FRONT OF ME WITH A BABY THAT'S CRYING, THAT'S HUNGRY, I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU I CAN'T FIND A BURGER.
UM, I THINK IT IS JUST THAT PERSONAL CHOICE THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE.
I ALSO, I MAY BE A LITTLE BIT JADED.
I'VE WORKED SITE HOSPITALS IN LA FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, SO I HAVE A HARD TIME GIVING ANY MY MONEY THE STREET CORNER.
UM, JUST FOR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
BUT I THINK WE'RE ALL HUMAN, RIGHT? AND IF YOU SEE SOMEONE THAT PULLS AT YOUR HEARTSTRING, WE DON'T WANNA GIVE THEM MONEY, FIND OUT A WAY TO BUY A BURGER, GIVE 'EM DRINK, GET 'EM OFF THE STREET CORNER, CALL US, UH, CONNECT 'EM SOMEWHERE, YOU KNOW, CONNECT THEM.
SOMEBODY DIAL 2 1 1 AND IT'LL SET, GIVE YOU SHELTER INFORMATION.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE'RE ALL HUMAN, RIGHT? AND I MAKE MISTAKES LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
SOMETIMES I GIVE THEM OR TWO, SOMETIMES I'M LIKE, BUY BURGER.
I WISH I HAD AN EASY ANSWER FOR YOU ON THAT.
WELL I SAW ONE TODAY OF PRESTON BELT LINE.
HE'S ALWAYS THERE EVERY DAY ON HIS CELL PHONE.
AND THEN I WONDER, IS THIS A SCAM? IS IT REAL? I, I DON'T KNOW.
I'D RATHER GIVE IT TO AN ORGANIZATION AS WELL.
WILL ORGANIZATION IN MINE FOR YOU GIVE
YEAH, IT'S SITTING, I, I'VE GOT A QUESTION IF YOU, YOU GOOD? I'M DONE.
SO IN LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS FROM 20 22, 23, 24 AND THE ESTIMATES LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GONNA CREEP UP 5% EACH YEAR.
AND YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY ACTIVELY KEEPING SOMEWHAT OF A ROLL CALL.
IS IT 10% GRADUATE OUT OF PROGRAMMING, BUYING SHELTER, FIND HOME JOB SPECIFIC TO HOMELESSNESS ON AVERAGE? IS IT 10%, 15% A YEAR THEY GRADUATE? OVERALL GRADUATE.
ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR CLIENTS.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS RESIDENT, AS RESIDENTS.
RESIDENTS OUT OF OUR CHILDREN.
I USED ANALOGY OF OUR FOOD PANTRY.
UM, SO WE MOVED TO WHERE WE ARE NOW, WHICH IS CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A LOT OF FOLKS IN NEED.
UM, WE SAW IMMEDIATE SPIKE IN FOOD PANTRY BUSINESS AND IT KIND OF LEVEL OFF AND WE HAVE, IT'S AN ALARMING NUMBER, BUT ABOUT 200, 2 50 FAMILIES A WEEK VISIT OUR FOOD PANTRY ABOUT 14,000 POUNDS OF FOOD EVERY DAY.
BUT THE TWO 50 HAS STAYED PRETTY EVEN.
SO WE ADD ABOUT EIGHT TO 10% NEW CLIENTS EVERY WEEK.
WE LOSE ABOUT EIGHT PRODUCTION.
SO WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US, FOR SOMEBODY TO BE TRULY BE SELF-SUFFICIENT TO GRADUATE IS WE'VE GOT AIDS FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME.
IT'S NOT MAYBE SEVERE WORKING WITH SOMEONE'S HOMELESS FOR YEARS.
BUT YOU COMING, SOMEONE COMING TO YOU 'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE FOOD TO COVER, THEY'RE ABOUT TO BE EVICTED AND IT'S HARD TO GET THEIR HEAD WRAPPED AROUND WE COULD HELP YOU THIS JOB FAIR, LET'S SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET.
UM, AND SO WE HAD TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP.
SO WE USE FOOD TO DO, THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY SOCIETY WORKS.
WE USE FOOD TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
THAT'S WHAT OUR FOOD PANTRY REALLY DOES.
SO WHAT CONCERNED ME INITIALLY WAS THAT WE WERE SEEING EIGHT TO 10% NEW CLIENTS.
AND WHAT IF WE DON'T SEE EIGHT TO 10% GRADUATED AS YOU SAID.
WE ARE SEEING THAT THANK, SO OUR NUMBERS IN OUR FOOD PANTRY VERY LOW AFTER THE INITIAL SPIKE IN YEAR.
SO I THINK WE'LL HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT MAYBE NEXT YEAR WOULD BE THE RAMPING OF OUR WORKFORCE PROGRAM.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU ABOUT ALL THE JOB PLACEMENTS, THE AVERAGE WAGE THAT AROUND HOUSE, ABOUT 17 TO $18 PER PER HOUR WAGE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE.
UM, WE HAD THE CITY OF CARROLLTON FOR A JOB FAIR, HIRING FAIR.
THE ONLY ONES THERE WITH THE JOBS AND THEY HIRED LIKE SIX PEOPLE ON THE SPOT.
AND THAT'S REALLY IS ECONOMIC STABILITY.
I GUESS WE HAVE ONE AND A POT FULL OF GOLD AND IT MADE NO DIFFERENCE.
THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE TOMORROW FOR SOMEONE NEW TO COME IN.
I THINK IT WAS MORE OF A GREATER SOCIETAL TYPE QUESTION.
BUT THE MAYOR TOLD ME NOT TO GET.
DAVID, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
SO, UH, FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE A LOT OF TRUST THAT'S, UH, RIGHTFULLY EARNED, UH, FROM ALL THE COMMUNITY.
YOU'RE A BIG PART OF THE FABRIC COMMUNITY.
I SERVED, UH, SEPTEMBER HUNGER THIS SUMMER.
YOU GUYS RUN A REALLY GOOD OPERATION.
I LIKE THE WAY THAT YOU WORK ON THE PROBLEMS, UH, THE CAUSE OF IT AND YOU FACILITATE, YOU EQUIP PEOPLE TO MOVE PAST IT.
AND THIS FOCUSING ON HOMELESS AND THE SOLUTION VERSUS JUST PUSHING 'EM OUT IS, IS REALLY, UM, THE WAY THAT I LOOK AT THINGS.
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AGREEMENT THERE WAS A QUARTERLY PROGRAM REPORTS THAT WERE DELIVERED AND, AND STILL THROUGH THIS YEAR.UM, DO WE GET THOSE? UH, IT'S BECAUSE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON JANUARY 30TH, APRIL AND JUST NOW JULY, GETTING THOSE PROGRAM RESULTS, WHAT THEY CALL STAFF.
WE YES, WE HAVE AND WE CAN PROVIDE 'EM TO COUNCIL.
PROBABLY BE A GOOD THING FOR US TO SEE AS WELL.
'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE REALLY TRANSPARENT AND YOU'RE REALLY RESULTS ORIENTED.
AND DAN, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE COMING IN? HOW MANY COMING OUT AND WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM ALONG THOSE LINES.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE SENDING QUARTERLY UPDATES TO STAFF FINANCIALS, UM, WITH SOME REPORTING ON NUMBERS.
AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE REALLY KIND OF UP TO YOU TO LET US KNOW WHAT, WHAT'S MEANINGFUL TO YOU, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE? IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE OUR FUNDING PROFESSIONAL HOMELESSNESS, YOU MAY WANNA ADD A METRIC OR TWO ABOUT OUR IMPACT ON THE HOMELESS POPULATION.
WE WANNA BE TRANSPARENT AND LONG AS WE CAN TRACK IT, WE'D LIKE TO SHARE IT.
I'D LIKE TO COMMEND THE STAFF, THE TOWN FOR WORKING WITH METROCREST.
I MEAN IT MAKES IT TO WHERE WE CAN SAY YES, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
IT'S, IT'S PART OF, WE'RE ALL PART OF THE SOLUTION.
ONE, FIRST OFF, WE HAVE, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD CONSTABLE LIGHTLY METRO PRESS SERVICES QUARTERLY REPORTS.
WE HAVE PUT 'EM IN THE PRIOR REPORT WHEN WE RECEIVE 'EM SO YOU CAN KEEP UP WITH 'EM.
THINK THAT THAT'S EASY TO DO THAT.
I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
AND JUST TO SAY, JUST ONE COMMENT ON THAT.
I MEAN OBVIOUSLY AS WE'VE UH, OVER THE PAST YEAR CERTAINLY TRY TO TAKE THIS HOLISTIC VIEW AND COME UP WITH OUR OWN PROCEDURE SOPS AND OUR PROCESS WHERE WE TAKE THIS CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL VIEW OF HOMELESSNESS AND, AND HOW WE ADDRESS IT.
HAVING METROCREST AS A PARTNER IS REALLY INVALUABLE AND WE REALLY NEED TO LEAN ON THEM AND BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
'CAUSE THEY CAN JUST DO THINGS THAT WE CAN'T DO.
AND BECAUSE AS TO ECHO THE FOREST, WE, WE ALL WANNA DO THIS IN A WAY THAT ACTUALLY HAS THAT POSITIVE SOLUTION IN HAND.
SO THEY'RE A VITAL PARTNER IN THAT.
I MEAN THEY, THEY CAN DO THINGS THAT IF YOU, WE WE CAN'T DO OR MAYBE SOMETIMES EVEN DON'T WANT TO DO.
UM, BUT I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON, ON THE HOMELESS RESPONSE.
UM, I MEAN WE OBVIOUSLY CAN'T JUST ARREST HER AWAY THROUGH SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
I DON'T THINK WE WOULD WANT TO DO THAT.
WHAT, WHAT DOES SOME OF THIS LOOK LIKE FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS? ARE, ARE WE TRAINING THEM? DO THEY KNOW WHAT RESOURCES ARE OUT THERE? DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER FOR THAT? I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE ALREADY DONE SOME OF THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, I THINK CHIEF FREEZE COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO THAT.
BROUGHT CHIEF, UH, CHRIS FREEZE CHIEF PLEASE.
UH, OUR OFFICERS DO KNOW RESOURCES.
THE DIRECTION REACHED OUT A FEW TIMES WHENEVER WE HAVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY DON'T FIT THAT CATEGORY OF LIKE THEY'RE NOT BREAKING THE LAW, BUT WE CAN'T, WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, UM, GIVE THAT RESOURCES FROM WRONG.
UH, WE'VE REACHED OUT AND WE'VE, THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER WITH ROD RESOURCES AND ACTUALLY GETTING THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHERE THEY NEED.
UM, SO YEAH, IT IS, WE'VE HAD TRAINING OUR OFFICERS AND WE GOT THE MEMBERS TO CONTACT AND IT'S BEEN A, A GREAT TEAM EFFORT FORWARD.
ANY OTHERS? I HAVE ONE QUICK, THE 23,000 OH 68.
HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THAT NUMBER? SO I THINK ON THAT SLIDE IT WAS WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WE SERVED.
YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FINANCES? IT'S THE, THE REQUEST FOR OH INCREASE.
ANOTHER QUESTION WAS EASIER FOR ME.
SO HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THAT? SO, GREAT QUESTION.
AND UM, WE KNEW YOU'D ASK THIS QUESTION BEFORE WE WROTE THE APPLICATION AND IT WAS DIFFICULT HONESTLY BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN HOMELESS OUTREACH.
YOU BELIEVE IN PROVIDING SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY ARE GIVEN UH, GOOD SUPPORT.
SO WE LAUNCHED THE PROGRAM TWO YEARS AGO.
SO WE BELIEVE IN SOMETHING, WE USE GENERAL FUNDS TO RAMP IT UP AND WE GET OTHER PEOPLE TO BELIEVE IN IT.
AND SO WE WRITE GRANTS, WE GET SOME INDIVIDUAL GIFTS AS WELL.
UM, BUT FROM A MUNICIPAL PERSPECTIVE, ONLY THE CITY OF CARROLLTON HAS SUPPORTED THE PROGRAM.
SO OUR BUDGET, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU BROAD NUMBERS, ABOUT $300,000 TO RUN THAT PROGRAM AND IT'LL GROW OVER TIME 'CAUSE IT'S THE PEOPLE FOCUSED BACK TO HARLEM.
UM, I TOOK, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT I DID.
I TOOK WHAT CARROLLTON WAS DOING, UH, FOR US, WHICH ABOUT 37% OF WHAT WE SPENT FOR CARROLLTON RESIDENTS, THEY JUST PROVIDE FUNDING FOR ISU SAY.
SO IT'S NOT MIRACLE MATH NECESSARILY.
UM, BUT AT THIS POINT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BENCHMARK TO KIND OF KNOW WHERE TO START.
SO YOU'RE COVERING ABOUT ONE THIRD OF ONE, ONE THIRD OF ACTUAL COSTS THAT WE SPEND, UH, IN ADDISON ON HOMELESS RESOURCES.
ANY OTHERS? SO, UH, THANK YOU TRACY.
DO, DO YOU NEED DIRECTION FROM US TONIGHT, DAVID?
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NO, WE CAN TAKE IT UP AT THE NEXT MEETING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET AND SESSION.[c. Present and discuss progress on the Rental & Lodging Registration and Inspection Program. ]
SO ADJUSTMENTS TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT.SO SIX C UH, THE WORK SESSION WE WILL POSTPONE TO OUR NEXT MEETING AS WELL AS THE CLOSED SESSION, WHICH IS ITEM FOUR A.
[d. Present and discuss the Parkland Dedication and Development Fee Study. ]
TO ITEM SIX D PRESENT AND DISCUSS THE PARKLAND DEDICATION AND DEVELOPMENT FEE STUDY.JAN MAYOR, HOW JANET TIDWELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
UM, AS A FOLLOW UP TO A PRESENTATION THAT WE PREVIOUSLY MADE IN WORK SESSION.
UM, I AM JOINED BY OUR CONSULTANT BARREL RULER FROM 110% WHO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US ALONG THIS PROCESS.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE SHARING THE ROLES IN THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.
I'LL PRESENT SOME INFORMATION AND THEN FARRELL WILL JOIN ME AND PRESENT SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
UM, THIS IS A FOLLOW UP TO THE WORK SESSION REPORT.
AS I MENTIONED, THAT WAS GIVEN LAST TIME.
THAT INCLUDED A LOT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS PRESENTATION IS WE'VE FOCUSED ON THE TOPICS THAT YOU ASKED US TO BRING MORE INFORMATION BACK TO.
UM, AND WE'VE ALSO TRIED TO STREAMLINE THE INFORMATION, KIND OF RECONSOLIDATED IN A WAY THAT IT'S EASIER TO DIGEST.
UM, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE DID PROVIDE YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION AT THE LAST PRESENTATION.
WHEN WE MADE THAT PRESENTATION, WE DID HEAR THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE FOR THE FUTURE WORK SESSION ITEM TO INCLUDE A FULL LIST OF ASSOCIATED FEES FOR OUR COMPARATOR CITY.
WE'LL PRESENT THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.
AND THEN ALSO IN OUR COMPARISON PROJECTS THAT WE LOOKED AT, WHICH ARE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED IN ADDISON ARE IN PROCESS.
UM, HOW WOULD THEY APPLY IF WE WERE GOING TO APPLY THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT STAFF IS MAKING? UH, THERE WAS A REQUEST TO INCLUDE A TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACTS WERE TO THAT.
AND SO WE'VE INCLUDED THAT INFORMATION.
THIS PRESENTATION IS GONNA BEGIN WITH A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL PRESENT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND PROVIDE INFORMATION TO HELP FACILITATE YOUR DISCUSSION.
AND THEN I'M GONNA HAND THIS OVER TO MAYOR COUNCIL.
UM, SO JUST AS A REMINDER, UH, THIS PROJECT FOCUSES ON THREE COMPONENTS.
UM, ONE OF 'EM IS TO UPDATE, UPDATE THE PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE UDC.
UH, THE SECOND PART OF THE PROJECT WILL BE TO FORMALIZE THE DEDICATION FEE OR THE FEE IN LIE.
SO THAT IS IN THE EVENT THAT THE TOWN DECIDES THAT, UM, THEY WON'T BE ACCEPTING LAND, UM, FOR PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THEN A FEE IN LIE WOULD BE PAID BY THAT DEVELOPER THAT THE TOWN WOULD ACCEPT.
UM, AND THEN TO CREATE A PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE, UM, THIS WOULD BE A ONE TIME, UH, FEE FOR PARK DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY ADOPTED TO DEVELOP AND ENHANCE, UM, THE PUBLIC PARKS AND RECREATION AMENITIES.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE COMPONENTS THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE REITERATING, UH, THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION.
UH, A FEW THINGS THAT THIS PROJECT WILL DO, UM, WHEN WE LOOK TOWARDS A A GUESS, UM, IS ALL THIS INFORMATION WILL BE INTEGRATED INTO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UH, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE LESLIE PLANNING DIRECTOR IN HOW THIS WILL BE REINCORPORATED AND UPDATED ALONG ALONGSIDE OF HER PROJECT.
UM, THESE FEES ARE, THIS CONSISTENT LAND MEDICATION WILL APPLY TO NEW DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS REDEVELOPMENT.
AND SO WE CLEARLY DEFINED THAT, UM, IN THE CODING AND THE ORDINANCE AS WELL.
UH, THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE WILL BE DETERMINED.
AND ONE THING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ABOUT THAT IS THEN STAFF AREN'T HAVING TO NEGOTIATE SEPARATE DEALS ALL OF THE TIME.
IT ACTUALLY CREATES A LOT OF CREDIBILITY, UH, FOR YOUR TOWN AS AN ORGANIZATION TO ENCOURAGE THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT YOU WANT AS WELL AS THEY KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON THE FRONT END.
UM, WE'VE CLARIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS BASED ON OPERATIONAL PRACTICES.
AGAIN, IT'S A LOT OF CLEANUP LANGUAGE.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE TWO FEES, IF IT'S A FEE LOAD THAT'S ACCEPTED OR A PARK, UH, DEVELOPMENT FEE, UM, THIS WILL BE COLLECTED IN TWO DISTINCT FUNDS BECAUSE THEY CAN BE SPENT 80% SIMILARLY BUT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO TRACK HOW THOSE DOLLARS ARE ALLOCATED AND USED, UM, OVER THE LONG TERM.
A FEW THINGS THAT ARE UNIQUE TO ADDISON, UM, AND AGAIN, WE'LL SHOW HOW THESE, THESE NUMBERS, WHY IT'S IMPORTANT.
BUT YOU HAVE A VERY HIGH COST LAND VALUE PER ACRE, ABOUT $536,000.
UM, IS THE AVERAGE AC WHAT AN ACRE OF LAND COSTS TO DEVELOP.
UM, MOST OF THE LAND IN ADDISON IS DEVELOPED.
SO WE ANTICIPATE ALONG WITH THE PROJECTS BEING, UM, REDEVELOPMENT OR, UM, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AMOUNT IS, UH, ABOUT 4.78% OF LAND IS STILL AVAILABLE.
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STUDY IN FEBRUARY.UM, ON AN AVERAGE, THE TYPE OF PARK DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ANTICIPATE HAPPENING WITH THESE PROJECTS, IT'LL COST ABOUT $400,000 PER ACRE.
SO THAT NUMBER IS USED FOR FINAL CALCULATIONS.
UM, WE KNOW THAT ADDISON HAS A HIGH QUALITY EXPECTATION.
UH, WE'VE PUT THAT LOUDER HERE OVER MULTIPLE STUDIES.
THE MASTER PARKS AND RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN, UH, THE TRAILS CONNECTIVITY PLAN, THE ADVISORY BOARD THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH FOR NEARLY A YEAR, UM, HIGH EXPECTATIONS AND THAT'S GREAT.
AND THEN THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DAYTIME POPULATION INCREASE ON AVERAGE 25,000 RESIDENTS AT NIGHT TO 125,000 DURING THE DAY.
THOSE HUNDRED 20, THOSE A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE CREATE AN IMPACT ON, ON PARKS, ON TRAILS, ON, ON THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE.
UM, SOME THINGS THAT YOU WILL, THAT YOU LIKELY KNOW ON ADDISON, BUT UM, THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE TIP INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU'LL BE SEEING, UM, AGAIN, IS TO MAINTAIN THE HIGH QUALITY, UM, THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE PER, UH, A THOUSAND RESIDENTS AND 7.2 ACRES.
AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT 'CAUSE THAT'S HOW WE DERIVED, UM, A LOT OF THE, THE FINANCIAL COMPONENTS OF KEEPING THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARD.
UM, THESE ARE ONE TIME FEES, UM, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT DEVELOPERS DON'T AUTOMATICALLY JUST PAY A REDUCED FEE AND NOT GIVE LAND OR TRAIL CORRIDOR WHERE IT IS PREFERRED AND DESIRED BY ADDISON.
SO, UM, WE'VE GOT SOME NUANCE IN THERE AS WELL.
UM, AND WE STILL WANNA REMAIN DEVELOPER FRIENDLY AND WE WANNA TRACK HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENTS.
UH, AND SO WE WERE, UM, CONSIDERATE WHEN WE TALKED TO DEVELOPERS ON WHAT ARE THE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WOULD BE THEIR CONCERN, SHOULD ADDISON MOVE FORWARD TO ADOPT THIS.
UM, AND SO WE'VE TAKEN THOSE TWO, THE TWO MAIN, UM, COMPONENTS INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
ONE IS THEY DIDN'T WANT IT TO SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS.
SECONDLY, THEY WANTED TO KNOW THE AMOUNT UPFRONT, LIKE WHAT WOULD THEY END UP HAVING TO PUT TOWARDS, UM, PARKS.
UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS TO CALCULATE FEES.
I WON'T GIVE ALL OF THIS, BUT IF YOU REALLY LOVE, IF YOU WANNA CALL ME LATER, WE CAN DO THAT.
UM, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
SO ONE IS TO DO SOMETHING BASED ON PROPORTIONALITY OF WHAT YOUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES ARE DOING OR CITIES INSIDE OF TEXAS.
UM, THERE'S ABOUT 76 ORGANIZATIONS, MAYBE MORE NOW THAT HAVE ALREADY ADOPTED THESE TYPES OF FEES.
UM, AND THE OTHER WAY IS TO DO BASED ON CURRENT LEVELS OF SERVICE.
AND SO WE HAVE CHOSEN THAT WE THINK IT'S, UM, MORE DEFENSIBLE SHOULD SOMEBODY HAVE QUESTIONS.
IT'S CLEARER FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW DID WE GET TO A NUMBER.
UH, AND I WOULD JUST SAY OVERALL IT'S MORE WIDELY ACCEPTED ACROSS THE US UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT VIEWS WHERE FIELD LOOP TO ACTUALLY HAVE A CALCULATION THAT EVERYBODY CAN SEE UPFRONT, UM, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THIS DESCRIBES.
THIS IS THE CALCULATION THAT WE'VE USED TO COME UP WITH THE NUMBERS WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
UM, WHEN WE DID THE CALCULATIONS, YOU'LL SEE IN THIS FIRST, UH, COLUMN, MAXIMUM, MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE FEE.
SO THIS IS WHAT ADDISON COULD CHOOSE TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH UPFRONT, MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE, MEANING WE TOOK THOSE FIGURES WHOLE AND CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER.
UM, THEN YOU'LL SEE THOSE AT A 25% DISCOUNT OF WHAT COULD BE RECOMMENDED AND AS 30% DISCOUNT.
UM, THE 30% DISCOUNT HAS AN AS ASTERISK CLIENT.
UM, AND THE REASON BEING BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD, UM, BRING FORWARD AS A RECOMMENDATION FOR ADDISON TO CONSIDER ADOPTING THE FULL FEE WITH A DISCOUNT, UH, THAT WAY SHOULD ADDISON WANT TO ADJUST THAT DISCOUNT LIKELY WOULD BE EASIER FOR A CITY COUNCIL TO DO THAT, UM, WITHOUT ALWAYS HAVING TO GO BACK TO THE CODE AND ADOPTING NEW FEE THAT THAT NUMBER COULD BE ADJUSTED SLIGHTLY.
SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE, UH, IN THAT THIRD COLUMN.
AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THOSE TWO FEES, THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, UM, AMOUNT OF, OF ONE FOR A HUNDRED DWELLING UNITS, THE FEE IN LIEU OF PARKLAND DEDICATION, THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE, UH, RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN WE LISTED FOR YOU INDUSTRIAL HOTEL, RETAIL AND OFFICE.
UM, AS JANA MENTIONED, ONE OF THE REQUESTS FROM COUNCIL LAST TIME WE WERE HERE WAS TO LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT THE 12 COMPARATOR CITIES.
UH, I THINK WE'VE EVALUATED ALMOST 20, UM, SPECIFIC TO ADDISON WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO GO, WHAT IS THE BEST COMP? WHO'S ADDISON TRYING TO BE? WE'RE LIKE, WELL, THEY'RE TRYING TO BE ADDISON.
YOU'RE NOT REALLY TRYING TO BECOME A DIFFERENT CITY.
UM, BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE TONIGHT IS LINED UP FOR YOU THE, UM, 12 COMPARATOR CITIES THAT YOU'RE REGULARLY UTILIZING IN OTHER REPORTS.
UM, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT SEVEN OF THOSE HAVE DE LAND MEDICATION REQUIREMENTS.
SIX HAVE FEE AND LOAD SIX HAVE A DEVELOPMENT FEE.
UM, 11 HAVE PARK LEVEL SERVICE, UM, HIGHER THAN ADDISON.
UM, AND THAT IN CHARGE IMPACT FEES FOR THINGS LIKE ROADWAYS, WASTEWATER WATER.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD
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ALL OF THE NUMBERS.I KNOW THERE'S IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL.
UH, YOU CAN SEE ADDISON AT THE TOP.
UM, AND WHAT WE'VE SHOWN YOU IS, UH, ADDISON WITH THAT 30%, UH, DISCOUNT FOR COMPARISON OF THESE OTHER CITIES.
I THINK THE THING TO, A COUPLE THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, SPECIFICALLY WITH, UM, THESE, THESE THREE COLUMNS HERE ON THE RIGHT, THE MUNICIPAL IMPACT FEES FOR ROADWAY, WASTEWATER, UM, AND UM, FEES FOR WATER, UM, IS ADDISON DOESN'T CHARGE ANY OF THOSE FEES FOR IMPACT ON DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WHERE YOU'LL SEE A NUMBER OF YOUR COMPARATOR CITIES CHARGING UM, FEES, MEDIUM FEES THROUGH HIGH FEES, I WOULD SAY OF A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IS PRETTY HIGH.
UM, BUT THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING, UM, IN THOSE COMPARATOR CITIES.
UH, ONE THING TO POINT OUT WITH THE, UH, FORT COLS THAT ARE GREEN, UM, SPECIFICALLY TO THIS PROJECT, UM, IS SEVERAL OF THE COMMUNITIES ACTUALLY LIST FAIR MARKET VALUE FOR THE LAND, FOR THE THE
SO FLOWER MOUND, UH, FRISCO DOES SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH VALUE MINUS THE 60%.
UM, IF THERE'S A FAIR MARKET VALUE, WHAT THAT MEANS IS STAFF OR SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GO OUT AND ASSESS EVERY ACRE OF LAND OR EVERY PARCEL.
UM, THAT DEFINITELY CAN AND MAY SLOW DOWN A PROCESS FOR A DEVELOPER.
UH, AS WELL AS, UM, YOUR FAIR MARKET VALUE IS $536,000 AN ACRE THAT'S VERY HIGH.
AND SO YOUR LAND MASS ISN'T LIKELY TO HAVE SO MUCH VARIATION IN WHAT IT COSTS PER ACRE AS SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES, UM, HAVE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE RECOMMENDED JUST A FLUFFY, UM, UPFRONT.
HERE'S THE OTHER COMPARATOR CITIES, JUST SO YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THEM ON ONE SCREEN.
ONE OTHER THING TO NOTE IS PARKS, LEVELS OF SERVICE.
AGAIN, ADDISON IS AT 7.2 AND A NUMBER OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE A HIGHER, UH, LEVEL OF SERVICE FROM THEIR PARKS AND RECREATION.
WE'D LIKE TO, UM, ENCOURAGE PARK LINE DEVELOPMENT, TRAIL CONNECTIVITY, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WE'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER, UM, POSSIBLE SOME, UH, RENOVATIONS TO FACILITIES AND MENS PARKS, WHETHER THOSE ARE OUTDOOR OR POSSIBLY IN NORTH THE ATHLETIC LEVEL AS WELL.
THIS, UM, PIECE THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK OVER TO JANA, IS, UM, REALLY TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC PROJECTS IN ADDISON AND HOW THESE FEES, UM, WOULD APPLY KNOWING WHAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.
AND THOSE ARE BROKEN INTO, UH, TWO DIFFERENT SETS.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS, UM, UM, PARKLAND, UH, OR FEE AND LIE PROJECTS, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE, THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE SEPARATELY AS WELL.
SO ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS AS WE WERE WORKING WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WAS APPOINTED BY COUNCIL IS THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN OF WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE ARE MAKING, UM, DID NOT DISSUADE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT IT ALSO SUPPORTED EITHER CURRENTLY WHAT WE ARE DOING OR IT SUBSTANTIATED WHAT WAS IN PARKS RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE BY MAINTAINING OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE.
AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE LOOKED AT THAT WAS TO LOOK AT SOME COMPARABLE PROJECTS THAT HAD BEEN COMPLETED IN ADDISON RECENTLY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS APPLIED AND HOW IT WAS APPLIED AND WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD REQUIRE.
AND THE REASON THAT THERE WERE DISCREPANCIES MAYBE AT TIMES.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS IN SOME CASES THERE'S SOME INCONSISTENCIES WHERE MORE LAND IS BEING GIVEN IN SOME AREAS THAN OTHERS, UM, AND MORE MONEY TO DEVELOP PARKS IN SOME AREAS THAN OTHERS.
AND I THINK A LOT OF THAT COMES DOWN TO THE FACT THAT STAFF IS NEGOTIATING, UM, WITHOUT A PREDEFINED SET OF ROLES, UM, ADOPTED BY COUNCIL TO GIVE US THOSE TOOLS THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO BE VERY CONSISTENT IN WHAT WE'RE ASKING OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
AND SO I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THOSE PROJECTS, BUT FERAL MENTIONED THE FIRST THING THAT WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON LAST TIME WHEN WE WERE PRESENTING THIS INFORMATION TO YOU, WE KIND OF LUMPED IT ALL TOGETHER AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LAND DEDICATION OR FEE IN LIEU OF, AND THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT PARK DEVELOPMENT.
AND THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY, THE FEE IN LIEU OF AND PARK DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE HAVE SEPARATED THOSE INTO TWO DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THIS ONE IS THE PARK LAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENT, WHICH THE RECOMMENDATION IS THERE'S ONE ACRE OF PARK LAND PER A HUNDRED DWELLING UNITS.
I THINK YOU ACTUALLY DO THE CALCULATION OF FERRELL'S, UM, APPLY HER CALCULATION AND DO HER MATH.
I THINK IT COMES TO 93 POINT SOMETHING ACRES.
UM, KNOWING THAT ADDISON, UM, IS SLIGHTLY BELOW ACREAGE
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IN SOME OF OUR COMPARATOR CITIES AND THE FACT THAT PARKS ARE AN IMPORTANT PART ABOUT OUR DNA AND WHO WE ARE, AND THEY'RE PART OF THE REASON THAT PEOPLE DEVELOP IN ADDISON AND LIVE IN ADDISON.UH, WE ROUNDED IT UP TO A HUNDRED DWELLING UNITS AND I THINK THAT ALIGNS WITH WHAT A LOT OF OUR COMPARATOR CITIES ARE DOING.
THE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, WOULD BE THE ADDISON GROVE PROJECT, WHICH WAS A MIXED USE PROJECT THAT HAD DEDICATED PARK SPACE.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE AM TREE HOUSE PHASE ONE PROJECT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S ALSO A MIXED USE PROJECT WITH DEDICATED PARK SPACE.
UM, THE COBALT HOMES, UH, ADDISON RESERVE, IT'S A TOWN HOME PROJECT THAT HAS DEDICATED, UM, KIND OF TRAIL GREEN BELT SPACE AND THEN THE JPI APARTMENT PROJECT.
UM, THAT DOES PROVIDE SOME PRIVATELY OWNED PUBLIC SPACE AND A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE TO COMPLETE SOME GOALS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN.
SO THAT FIRST PROJECT THAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IS THE ADDISON GROVE PROJECT.
AND SO THAT PROJECT HAS 499 D DWELLING UNITS.
UM, AND SO WHAT WAS IMPLEMENTED WAS AN ACRE OF LAND WAS PROVIDED FOR PARK SPACE AND THAT ACRE OF LAND, UM, WAS DEVELOPED FOR, AND I'M NOT, OH, 'CAUSE WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.
SORRY, MAYBE IT'S OVER COMPLICATED.
SO AN AC OF LAND WAS DEDICATED TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON.
IF WE, UM, FOLLOW THE PROPOSED NEW ORDINANCE WITH A 25% DISCOUNT, UM, AND THE 30% DISCOUNT.
SO THE TWO FEES ARE THERE, UM, YOU STILL WOULD GA PROVIDE THE SAME AMOUNT OF LAND, WHICH WOULD BE 4.99 ACRES.
SO THERE'S A DISPARITY OF ABOUT 3.99 ACRES.
UM, THERE WAS ALSO, IF WE WERE GOING TO, LET'S SAY WE AGREED WITH A DEVELOPER THAT AN ACRE OF LAND MADE A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PARKS AND CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE DIDN'T SEE THE NEED TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL 3.99 ACRES OF LAND WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THE 30% DISCOUNT? AND I'LL JUST SPEAK FROM THESE TO KIND OF KEEP US TIMELY.
UM, AND IT'S ALSO WHAT SAT'S RECOMMENDATION IS, IS THE DEVELOPER WOULD PAY 1.49 OR $1.4 MILLION OR $1.5 MILLION TO MAKE UP FOR THAT 3.99 ACRES OF LAND THAT WAS NOT DEDICATED TO THE TOWN.
SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THE TOWN WOULD NOW HAVE THAT MONEY IN A FUND THAT WOULD ALLOW US, IF WE ARE BUILDING A TRAIL PROJECT OR WE KNOW THAT WE NEED A NEW DOG PARK ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE RESIDENTS AND WITH THEM MORE PET RESIDENTS COMING TO TOWN, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THOSE FUNDS TO PURCHASE LAND TO COMPLETE THOSE TRAIL CORRIDORS TO BUILD DOG PARK, BUILD PLAYGROUNDS, ADD NEW AMENITIES.
UM, IF WE NEEDED TO SOMEHOW EXPAND FACILITIES, IT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE THE FUNDS TO PURCHASE THE LAND IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
UM, SOMETIMES THERE MAY BE A PROJECT THAT IS VERY PARK HEAVY, UM, THAT WE WOULD NOT NEED LAND.
MAYBE IT'S A VERY DENSE PROJECT AND THE VALUE OF THE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT THEY CAN GIVE US WOULD NOT BE SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY THE TOWN MAINTAINING PARKS.
AND IF STAFF HAD SOME CRITERIA TO FOLLOW, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO SAY TO THE DEVELOPER, WE WOULD PREFER FOR YOU TO PROVIDE US THE FEE IN LIEU OF WHICH IS $1.8 MILLION THAT THEN WE COULD BANK AND WE COULD USE THOSE RESOURCES TO BETTER PROVIDE FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
AND I GAVE YOU A LOT OF DESCRIPTION ON THE REST OF 'EM.
SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE A LITTLE BIT FASTER.
BUT ON THE AMALI TREE HOUSE PROJECT, AMALI DID, UM, DEDICATED THREE ACRES OF LAND.
IF WE FOLLOW THE CALCULATIONS, 4.49 WOULD'VE BEEN REQUIRED BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE WOULD BE 559,048 ADDITIONAL DOLLARS, UM, FOR THAT MISSING 1.49 ACRES OF LAND THAT WAS NOT DEDICATED.
THE COBALT HOMES PROJECT, I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME CONCERN BECAUSE ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES IS TO BRING, UM, OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING INTO ADDISON.
AND I, WHAT I HEARD WAS THERE'S A CONCERN COULD THESE FEES PREVENT A DEVELOPER LIKE THIS, UM, FROM WANTING TO BUILD A SIMILAR PROJECT IN ADDISON.
AND SO WHEN WE COMPARE IT, WHAT WAS DEDICATED WAS 0.21 ACRES.
AND IF WE APPLY THE CALCULATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED, THERE WAS A, WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT OF 0.31 ACRES GIVEN TO THE TOWN.
SO WE WERE REALLY CLOSE IN WHAT WE ASKED FOR AND GOT, UM, AND WHAT OUR CALCULATIONS WOULD REQUIRE.
AND SO THAT WOULD RESULT IN A PAYMENT OF $3,752 FOR THE ADDITIONAL 0.1 ACRE
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THAT WAS NOT CONTRIBUTED.AND THEN THE JEFFERSON ARROW PROJECT, THE REASON THAT I PRESENTED THIS ONE IS BECAUSE IT DOES NOT INCLUDE, UM, A MIXED USE COMPONENT TO IT, BUT IT DOES PROVIDE PRIVATELY OWNED PUBLIC SPACE, WHICH IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST PRESENTATION.
SOMETIMES IF A PARKLAND IS BEING DE OR DEDICATED TO THE TOWN THAT IS SURROUNDED BY THEIR DEVELOPMENT ON MANY SIDES, WHICH IS THREE, AND IT IS A VERY SMALL PARCEL OF PARK LAND, SOMETIMES IT IS MORE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE THAT LAND DEDICATED AS PUBLIC SPACE, BUT IT'S PRIVATELY OWNED AND PRIVATELY MAINTAINED.
AND SO THIS PROJECT IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.
PER THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY WOULD RECEIVE A 50% CREDIT FOR THAT AMOUNT OF LAND THAT WAS PROVIDED AS UM, PRIVATELY OWNED PUBLIC SPACE.
THIS, UM, WHAT WAS DEDICATED TO THE TOWN WAS ZERO ACRES OF LAND.
THE CALCULATION WOULD REQUIRE 2.93 ACRES.
I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THERE WAS, IN A PRIVATELY OWNED PUBLIC SPACE, THERE WAS LIKE 4,260 SQUARE FEET OF PLAZA SPACE AND THEN 3,330 SQUARE FEET OF TRAILS, UM, SPACE PROVIDED THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE PARKS.
RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE PLAN IS IMPORTANT FOR THAT LOCATION.
SO WE APPLIED THE 50% CREDIT OF THE 0.08 ACRES, UM, AND APPLY THE REQUIREMENT.
UM, THERE WOULD BE, UM, $1 MILLION FOR THE, I'M ROUNDING UP FOR THE 2.85 ACRES OF LAND THAT WAS NOT DEDICATED OR IF NO LAND WAS DEDICATED TO THE TOWN.
SO THERE WASN'T A PRIVATELY OWNED PUBLIC SPACE.
UM, IT WOULD BE ONE POINT OR ONE OH $9 MILLION.
THE LAND WOULD BE DEBT FUNDS WOULD BE DEDICATED AND AS I MENTIONED, THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE ABLE TO BE BANKED BY THE TOWN IN A SEPARATE ACCOUNT AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THOSE FUNDS TO PURCHASE LAND, UM, TO DEVELOP OTHER PROJECTS THAT WOULD FULFILL THE GOALS IDENTIFIED IN THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN AND THE PARKS RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE PLAN.
WHILE, SINCE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE PARK LAND DEDICATION FEE, OUR DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS IN CM L THIS IS PROBABLY A REALLY GOOD POINT TO KIND OF STOP AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS PARTICULAR TO THIS, WE CAN ANSWER THOSE OR I CAN MOVE ON TO THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT.
I'VE GOT A QUESTION, UM, ON SLIDE 17, SOME REASON I'M NOT SEEING THE NUMBERS.
OH, IT'S THE ONE THAT'S GOT, UH, RESIDENTIAL, IT'S GOT THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
BASICALLY MY QUESTION IS THIS IS, UM, WHAT I'M SEEING IS
AND SO, UM, WHEN, WHEN YOU ALL ARE HAVING THIS, THESE DISCUSSIONS AS A COMMITTEE AND STAFF AND CONSULTANT, UM, YOU'VE GOT EVERY, UH, YOU'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL IS ONE LINE, UM, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR THOUGHT ABOUT, UH, RESIDENTIAL BEING MULTI-FAMILY IN ONE AND OWNER OCCUPIED IN ANOTHER? MAYBE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES? SO I KNOW THAT'S, WE'RE NOT EXPECTING THAT, BUT I THINK IT COULD HAPPEN.
SO YEAH, YOU WILL SEE IN SOME CITIES THAT THEY HAVE A MULTI-FAMILY AND A SINGLE FAMILY DESIGNATION AND THOSE FEES ARE DIFFERENT AND THE SINGLE FAMILY IS OFTEN A HIGHER FEE THAN THE MULTIFAMILY.
AND UM, WE HAD A BIG DISCUSSION WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND IT WAS IMPORTANT TO INCENTIVIZE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN ADDISON AS IT COULD HAPPEN, UM, IF THERE WAS INTEREST THERE.
AND SO THE DECISION WAS MADE TO FOLLOW THE MULTI-FAMILY FEE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE LESS AND THEN IT WOULD BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF ATTRACTING THAT SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT 'CAUSE THEY WOULDN'T BE PAYING THE HIGHER FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT ASSUMING WE APPROVE THIS.
THE QUESTION ON WHEN AND HOW WE COLLECT THE FEE AND WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION IS DO WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY? UM, YOU KNOW, SOME DEVELOPERS IS PROBABLY REALLY EASY TO PLOP DOWN 1,000,008 AND START THEIR PROJECT.
OTHER DEVELOPERS PROBABLY COULD BE CHALLENGED BY THAT.
SO HOW DO, HOW DO WE PLAN ON COLLECTING THAT? SO, UM, LESLIE'S HERE AND I'LL ASK LESLIE TO, UM, CORRECT ME IF I MISS MISTAKE SOMETHING, BUT WE DID HAVE A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT WHEN THE FEES WOULD BE CHARGED AND WHEN THEY WOULD NEED TO BE PAID.
AND THE CONSENSUS WAS THAT THEY WOULD BE PAID AT THE TIME THAT BUILDING PERMITS WERE ISSUED.
UM, AND THE REASON FOR THIS IS WE DON'T WANNA GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE ISSUE PERMITS AND THEN THE FEES AREN'T PAYING AND WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A HAMMER TO, TO GET THOSE FEES.
AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE TRIGGER FOR US IS WHEN BUILDING PERMITS ARE ISSUED.
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ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.WOULD WOULD WE, DO YOU PERCEIVE ANY ISSUE IF WE HAD, UH, RESIDENTIAL OWNER OCCUPIED AND THERE WERE NO FEES, KIND OF LIKE WE HAVE TODAY? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE HAVING A, A LOT OF DIFFICULTY GETTING, GETTING THAT PIECE OF THE, THE PROPERTY MARKET ENGAGED WITH US RIGHT NOW AND, AND TO ADD ANY MORE TYPE OF A HURDLE SEEMS LIKE, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD WANT TO ADD ANY MORE HURDLES TO THAT UNLESS, UNLESS YOU THINK WE'RE GONNA GET IN JAIL BY, BY DOING SOMETHING.
I AND DAVID MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD ONTO THIS.
I HAVE NO CONCERNS WITH NOT CHARGING FEES FOR RESIDENTIAL OWNER OCCUPIED.
I THINK WHERE I HAVE A PROBLEM IS DETERMINING WHAT WOULD BE OWNER OCCUPIED BECAUSE WE MIGHT INTEND FOR A DEVELOPMENT TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT OWNER OCCUPIED AND THEN SOME OF THEM BECOME RENTAL PROPERTIES.
UM, THAT WOULD BE THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD STRUGGLE WITH.
UM, BUT IF WE WERE GOING TO SAY WE WOULDN'T CHARGE FEES FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UM, I THINK WE COULD GET TO A PLACE THAT WE FELT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
AND COULD YOU JUST SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE COLOR ON LIKE YOU'RE EXPLAINING SOME TYPE OF MIXED, MIXED APPLICATION, I THINK, UM, OWNER AND RENTING IN THE SAME, ON THE SAME PROPERTY.
SO IF WE WERE TO, UM, IN TECHNICALLY IT WOULD BE INCENTIVIZING, BUT YOU'RE UPFRONT INCENTIVIZING TO ATTRACT SOMEBODY TO, UM, DEVELOP A SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY IN ADDISON.
UM, WE CAN HAVE INTENTIONS OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
LET'S SAY IT HAS 15 HOMES THAT WERE BUILT.
ADDISON RESERVE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
SO THE DEVELOPER COMES IN AND BUILDS THOSE WITH THE INTENTION OF THOSE BEING OCCUPIED BY THE OWNER.
BUT OVER TIME, OR MAYBE THE FIRST OWNER THAT BUYS ONE OF THE TOWN HOMES DECIDES THIS IS A GREAT INVESTMENT FOR ME AND I'M GOING TO USE THIS AS A RENTAL PROPERTY.
UM, THAT'S THE THING I THINK WE WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME IN ENFORCING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ENSURE YEAH, I'M NOT, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, THAT PARTICULAR, YEAH, SO I WOULD JUST SAY, I MEAN, I THINK CERTAINLY THAT'S A GOOD POLICY DISCUSSION TO HAVE A GOOD POLICY DECISION TO MAKE TO SAY, HEY, WE WANNA PRIORITIZE IT AND THIS IS A WAY TO DO THAT.
I JUST DON'T EVEN THINK THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WE COULD PRIORITIZE IT.
WE COULD HAVE THIS PARK FEE AND SAY WE'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS AS YOU'VE INCREASED RESIDENTS HERE, WE WANT TO KEEP THE SAME PART, YOU KNOW, BY, BY NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THE SAME PARKLAND AT THE SAME QUALITY AND WANT THAT TO BE CONSISTENT.
WE HAVE OTHER MECHANISMS THAT WE COULD, IF WE KEPT THAT USED FOR INCENTIVES AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHETHER IT'S KIND OF THROUGH THREE EIGHTIES OR ANY OTHER MECHANISM THAT WE HAVE TO INCENTIVIZE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES.
SO THIS IS A WAY TO DO IT WHERE YOU JUST DO IT UP FRONT OR YOU COULD KEEP THIS AND WE CAN USE OTHER TOOLS AS WE GO DOWN THE ROAD.
SO I JUST DON'T WANT, IT'S NOT SOME BINARY CHOICE WHERE SURE, SURE.
I I I LIKE WHAT I'M SUGGESTING, UM, JUST BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT GONNA KNOW TO, TO ASK FOR THIS AND SOMETIME THAT'S JUST ANOTHER SEEMS LIKE IT COULD BE ANOTHER HURDLE TO TRY TO GET TO, UM, CAPTURING SOME CHAPTER THREE 80 GRAND.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT A CRYSTAL BALL CONVERSATION.
I KNOW IF SOMEONE'S GONNA RENT THE PROPERTY A YEAR FROM NOW OR 18 MONTHS FROM NOW, IT'D BE DIFFERENT IF WE'RE AN AIRBNB CONVERSATION.
THE INTENT TO COME IN AND START NIGHTLY RENTALS VERSUS LEASING THE PROPERTY FOR A YEAR.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A BUNCH OF OPPORTUNITY, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT MAYBE FOUR PARCELS OF, OF, OF LAND IN ADDISON THAT COULD BE MID-RISE, UH, CONDOMINIUM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE.
ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THE LAND DEDICATION AND SPEED COMPONENT OF THE I WANT THE WHOLE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK IT NOW.
SO IS THIS A, A FRAMEWORK OR A POLICY THAT WE HAVE A FRAMEWORK OR A POLICY THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW BECAUSE WOULD WE BE ABLE TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE USE IT FOR NEGOTIATION IS STARTING POINT THAT WE CAN COME OFF IT IF WE WANTED TO? IT, IT IS MY INTENTION THAT IT'S A FRAMEWORK THAT ALLOWS STAFF THE ABILITY TO BE CONSISTENT IN WHAT WE'RE REQUIRING OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
BUT AS THOSE PROJECTS COME FORWARD THAT ARE THOSE EXCEPTIONAL PROJECTS THAT COUNCIL IS ASKED US TO LOOK FOR, THERE WOULD STILL BE THE ABILITY FOR US TO NEGOTIATE, UM, AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THAT COULD BE USED IN FEE SIMPLE IF WE CHOSE TO, OR, UH, BACK TO THE FEE SIMPLE SPECIFICALLY, I'M IN FAVOR OF LEADING IT THE WAY IT IS BECAUSE IT'S A SMALL PIECE, UH, USING COBALT AS AN EXAM, NOT, UH, SELECTING THEM TO BE EXEMPT FROM IT NECESSARILY.
SO YOU'RE SAYING LIKE WITH ADDISON GROVE, THE FEE THEY WOULD'VE HAD TO PAY BECAUSE THEY ONLY GAVE US ONE ACRE
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INSTEAD OF 4.9 MM-HMM.IF ADDISON GROVE HAD SAID, WELL THEN FORGET IT, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA PAY THAT FEE.
WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY IF WE WANTED THAT PROJECT BADLY ENOUGH TO WAIVE THE FEE AND JUST TAKE THE ONE ACRE.
'CAUSE IF THEY GIVEN US FIVE ACRES ON THAT TRACK.
FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT CAN'T BE OUR CONSISTENT THAT WE DO THAT WITH EVERY PROJECT.
UM, BUT WHEN IT IS THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE DETERMINED ARE EXCEPTIONAL AND THERE'S ADDED BENEFIT TO THE TOWN AND OUR RESIDENT RESIDENCE, THAT WOULD BE A TOOL THAT WE COULD USE.
YEAH, SO THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE, MY CONCERN IS HOW COMPETITIVE ARE WE? I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, CARROLLTON, CAPEL FIRM BRANCH, I MEAN THOSE CITIES THAT ARE OUR NEIGHBORS REALLY DON'T HAVE THOSE FEES.
SO I I MY, SO THE WAY THAT WE'RE STRUCTURING THIS IS WE'RE GONNA DO THE LAND DEDICATION TO FEE AND LIE AND THE PARK DEVELOPMENT AS OPPOSED TO THE IMPACT FEES.
SO GIVEN THOUGHT TO, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHERE WOULD WE END UP ON A SIMILAR PROJECT, UM, YOU KNOW,
UM, WE HAVE, UM, PARKS ARE AN IMPORTANT PART, LIKE WHY PEOPLE COME HERE TO LIVE TO DO BUSINESS.
AND THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THOSE CITIES THAT SURROUND US.
AND SO THEY HAVEN'T PRIORITIZED THE DEVELOPMENT OF PARKLAND AND THE A THE GROWTH OF PARKLAND IN THEIR COMMUNITY LIKE WE ARE ASKING COUNCIL TO CONSIDER FOR ADDISON.
UM, BUT IF THE OTHER QUESTION IS ARE WE GOING TO TURN DEVELOPERS AWAY IF WE DO CHARGE HIGHER FEES, UM, THAT THEY WON'T DO BUSINESS IN ADDISON.
AND WHAT WE HAVE SEEN FROM LOOKING AT THIS STUDY IS IF YOU LOOK AT CITIES LIKE PLANO THAT DOESN'T CHARGE MUNICIPAL IMPACT FEES, UM, BUT THEY'RE CHARGING $2,865 A DWELLING UNIT, UM, FOR SINGLE FAMILY.
WE SEE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING IN PLANO.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT MCKINNEY, ALTHOUGH THEY DON'T CHARGE I THINK MUNICIPAL IMPACT FEES FOR WATER, THEY DO OTHERS, BUT THEY'RE PART DEVELOPMENT FEE.
UM, AND WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, FOR THEIR LAND DEDICATION, YOU SEE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING IN MCKINNEY NOW, THEY ARE ASKING FOR LESS, UM, ACRES OF LAND FOR DWELLING UNITS THAN WE ARE.
SO I'M GONNA BE CLEAR ON THAT.
AND IF WE LOOK AT FRISCO, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY COMPARABLE, UM, TO WHAT WHAT WE ARE ASKING, THEY'RE DISCOUNTING THEIR FAIR MARKET VALUE OF LAND BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SIMILAR, UM, ISSUE LIKE WE DO.
THAT LAND IS, UM, VERY EXPENSIVE, ESPECIALLY ALONG THOSE MAJOR LIKE THE TOLLWAY CORRIDOR.
SO THEY'RE OFFERING A DISCOUNT TO INCENTIVIZE THE LAND DEDICATION, BUT THEY ALSO ARE REQUIRING SIMILAR PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES.
SO YOU'LL SEE FRISCO'S ASKING 1,661 PER SINGLE FAMILY WHERE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR ADDISON WITH 30% DISCOUNT IS 1,784.
AND SO LOOKING AT THOSE COMPARATOR CITIES THAT WE SEE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING, BUT WE ALSO SEE QUALITY PARK SYSTEMS, UM, IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.
WE GOT REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS OF THE 30%.
DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES THERE.
SO NANCY, CAN YOU GIVE, JUST, JUST BRIEFLY, YOU HAD OUTREACH WITH SOME DEVELOPERS, CORRECT? MM-HMM.
UM, FERAL THAT ONE-ON-ONE, UM, WITH A HANDFUL OF DEVELOPERS, I THINK ONE DOES ACTIVELY WORK IN ADDISON.
WE ALSO WANTED TO REACH OUT A LITTLE OUTSIDE OF ADDISON BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T GETTING A BIASED RESPONSE.
UM, AND THE ONE THAT WORKS IN THAT ADDISON ACTUALLY SUPPORTED WHOLEHEARTEDLY, UM, WHAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING.
THEY, THEY SAID THEY ALWAYS KNOW IT'S COMING.
UM, AND THEN WHAT SHE HEARD FROM THE OTHERS IS AS LONG AS IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S EASY FOR THEM TO CALCULATE.
SO AS THEY'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THEIR BUSINESS MODEL AND THEIR BUSINESS PLAN, IT'S NOT HARD FOR THEM TO NAVIGATE WHAT THEIR FEES ARE GONNA BE AND IT'S NOT GONNA SLOW 'EM DOWN BECAUSE TIME IS MONEY.
AND SO THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD.
AND, AND I THINK THERE WAS ALSO, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT THE HIGHEST DEVELOPMENT FEES IN THE METROPLEX, YOU KNOW, CLASS WAS A CONCERN, BUT IF WE WERE, UM, KIND OF ALIGNED WITH OUR COMPARATOR CITIES AND WE COULD FI FILL THOSE OBJECTIVES, THEY HAD A COMFORT LEVEL WITH US DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING
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OR, AND THEY DID LIKE THAT IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A FEE THAT WENT TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT THEY THOUGHT WOULD HELP SELL THEIR HOMES AND TOWN HALLS, WHICH IS LIKE PARKS AND TRAILS, I THINK THAT HELPS THEM SELL THEIR PRODUCT, RIGHT.AS WELL AS WHEN, UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY A TOWNHOME PROJECT IS $800,000 OR $700,000 A, YOU KNOW, $3,700 FEE ON TOP OF 700,000 PROJECT, UM, WHEN THAT PROJECT LIKELY LASTS 20 TO 30 YEARS, RIGHT? THAT DEVELOPMENT, IT ISN'T REALLY AS SIGNIFICANT.
UM, MAYBE AS ONE BIG NUMBER I GUESS WITH ALL OF THOSE, UH, DWELLING UNITS INCLUDED UP FRONT.
BUT YEAH, THERE, THERE WASN'T ANY OF THE EIGHT THAT I TALKED TO.
UM, THEY, THE ONE, THE ONE THAT WAS MOST CONTROVERSIAL WAS LIKE, WELL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, HOW CAN I GUARANTEE THAT THESE DOLLARS ACTUALLY GO TOWARDS PARKS AND TRAILS BECAUSE I SEE THE PROJECT AND I KNOW HOW IT'D BE FUNDED.
IS THERE REPORT PROVIDED? UM, THEY WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU UTILIZE FOR, I SAID YEAH, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT FINANCE DEPARTMENT DOES.
THAT'S WHAT'S REPORTING IT, RIGHT? AND SO WE'LL JUMP INTO REAL QUICKLY, AND WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE COMPONENT.
UM, BUT PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE FEE MU OF, UM, BECAUSE THEY ARE OFTEN USED FOR PURPOSES RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT UPGRADE AND REPLACEMENT OF PUBLIC PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.
UM, SO IF A DEVELOPER WAS TO GIVE US LAND, THAT KIND OF GETS US HALFWAY THERE.
UM, IF WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE TRAILS AND PARTS, BUT IF WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE THE AMENITIES, UM, IN THE FACILITIES FOR PEOPLE TO USE, WE ALSO NEED THOSE FUNDS TO DEVELOP THOSE PROJECTS.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S TWO POTS OF MONEY.
UM, THERE IS A LITTLE, EHB ALLOWS YOU TO BUY LAND AND, AND DO SOME DEVELOPMENT BACK AND FORTH, BUT, UM, THE BEST TRANSPARENCY IS TO KEEP THOSE SEPARATE AND USE ONE FOR LAND AND USE ONE FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT OR PREDOMINANTLY DO THAT.
AND SO THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION.
UM, IF WE LOOK AT THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE FEE, WHICH IS THAT CALCULATION THAT FARRELL WALKED YOU THROUGH, UM, IT WOULD COME OUT TO BE $2,549 PER DWELLING UNIT AND THAT WAS BASED ON THAT $400,000 NUMBER.
DEVELOP AN ACRE OF LAND IN ADDISON.
THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION IN OUR PARKS, RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE TESTED THAT NUMBER THROUGH PARK DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE.
AND WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S A STRONG NUMBER.
UM, AND IT A ADEQUATELY REPRESENTS WHAT IT COSTS TO DEVELOP AN ACRE OF LAND.
UM, IF WE DISCOUNT THAT, UM, THAT GETS US TO $1,784 A WELLING UNIT.
UM, WE ALSO ARE RECOMMENDING A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT APPROACH THAN MOST OF OUR, I THINK ALL OF OUR COMPARATOR CITIES EXCEPT FOR MAYBE ONE HAS WHERE WE WOULD ALSO CONSIDER A SLIGHT FEE BEING PAID FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT, FOR DEVELOPMENT.
THAT IS INDUSTRIAL HOTELS, RETAIL, AND THEN OFFICE SPACE.
AND THE REASON THAT WE'RE DOING THAT IS BECAUSE WHEN WE HEARD OF THE PARKS RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE PLAN, WE WERE UNDER SERVING OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO PROVIDE MORE AMENITIES FOR OUR DAYTIME RESIDENTS FROM A PARK STANDPOINT, UM, TO CONTINUE TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO WANT TO GROW THEIR BUSINESSES HERE IN ADDISON.
AND SO WE HAVE INCLUDED FEES, UM, I THINK NORTH RICHLAND HILLS IS A CITY THAT DOES THAT.
DALLAS CHARGES FEES AND I THINK AUSTIN DOES FOR HOTELS.
SO THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT DO IT.
THIS WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE RARE FOR US, BUT I THINK IT ALSO, UM, REPRESENTS OUR GOALS AND OUR MISSION HERE IN ADDISON.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE SAME FOUR PROJECTS ON HOW THOSE FEES WERE APPLIED.
SO FOR THE
BUT IF SOMEBODY CAME IN AND WIPED THE WIPE CLEAN AND BUILT A NEW RETAIL FACILITY, THEN THE FEES WOULD APPLY.
OKAY, SO A QUICK EXAMPLE OF THE VILLAGE FROM THE PARKWAY, THE NEW OFFICE TOWERS BEING BUILT, THIS WOULD APPLY OR WOULD NOT APPLY.
THEY DO NOT HAVE AN EXISTING OFFICE TOWER IN THAT LOCATION.
UM, BUT IF THEY WERE TAKING AN EXISTING OFFICE TOWER AND JUST REFURBISHING IT AND BRINGING IN A NEW TENANT, IT WOULD NOT APPLY.
AND WE'VE KIND OF DEFINED THAT IN A, I THINK IN A DOCUMENT THAT WE INCLUDED WITH FAQS.
WE, WE REALLY GOT INTO WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE BECAUSE UPFRONT WE DIDN'T, WE WANTED
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TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHERE A FEE WOULD BE TRIGGERED AND WHERENOW SOME OF THOSE FUNDS WERE APPLIED TO LIKE STREET SCAPE ELEMENTS AND THE LIGHTING IN THE AREA.
UM, IF WE FOLLOWED OUR 30% DISCOUNT, UH, THERE WOULD'VE BEEN SLIGHTLY LESS MONEY THAT 890,000 COLLECTED.
BUT IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE WOULD'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT LARGER POT OF MONEY FOR REAL ESTATE FOR LAND.
UM, SO I THINK THIS IS A KIND OF A, A GOOD TEST FOR US THAT WHAT WE WERE COLLECTING, UM, IN THE PARK THAT THEY DEVELOPED IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WOULD'VE REQUIRED.
UM, THERE ALSO IS A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT THAT DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO THE FEES THAT WE WOULD'VE COLLECTED FOR THAT WOULD'VE BEEN $19,040.
THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AM E PROJECT, IT'S ALSO VERY SIMILAR.
UM, THERE WAS A, WE DO NOT KNOW AM E IS DEVELOPING THE TRAIL CORRIDOR AND WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE DOLLARS OF THE COST.
UM, JUST BEING A PART PROFESSIONAL LIKE THAT KIND OF TELLS ME THAT THEY'RE SPENDING CLOSE IF NOT MORE, UM, TO WHAT'S THERE.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, AM E HAS ALSO CONTRIBUTED A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM THE DOG PARK AND 150,000 FOR PUBLIC ART.
UM, AND IF WE WERE GOING TO CHARGE THE FEE WITH A 30% DISCOUNT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN $890,000 IF THEY PAID FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE.
AND THEN, UM, $9,520 FOR RETAIL AND THEN FOR CO-OP HOMES, UM, WE DO NOT KNOW THE AMOUNT THAT WAS SPENT BY CO CO-OP HOMES ON THE TRAIL AND THE OPEN SPACE.
UM, BUT FOR WHAT IS BEING, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDED THE 30% THEY WOULD'VE, WE WOULD'VE REQUIRED THEM TO PAY $55,304.
SO ONCE AGAIN, UM, VERY LOW FEES.
IN FACT, I IMAGINE THAT THEY PROBABLY SPENT SLIGHTLY MORE THAN THAT BASED ON THE, THE TRAIL DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY ARE MAKING.
AND THEN FOR JEFFERSON ARROW, UM, THEY ARE DONATING $50,000 FOR PUBLIC ART, BUT, AND THEY ARE BUILDING THE STREETSCAPE COMPONENT AND AS WE MENTIONED, THEY'VE INCLUDED A PRIVATELY OWNED PUBLIC SPACE, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ON THAT.
BUT WITH THE 30% DISCOUNT, THE FEE THAT THE TOWN WOULD COLLECT WOULD BE $522,712.
AND THEN FOR THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IT WOULD BE $4,760.
AND SO WITH KIND OF GIVING YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED, AFTER WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND WE LOOKED AT OUR COMPARATOR CITIES, UM, I THINK LAST TIME WHEN WE WERE WRAPPING UP, COUNCIL ASKED US, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? AND SO HERE'S WHAT WE NEED IS SOME FEEDBACK ON DOES COUNCIL SUPPORT THE PROPOSED PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENT OF ONE ACRE OF PARKLAND PER A HUNDRED DWELLING UNITS? WE COULD GO TO THE 93 ACRES THAT, UM, WAS A SLIGHT ROUND DOWN, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THE 100, UM, THE ONE ACRE FROM 100 DWELLING UNITS.
AND SO WE'D LIKE TO KNOW IF COUNCIL SUPPORTS THAT, UM, DEDICATED LAND WOULD BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND ACCEPTED LAND WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF ONE ACRE.
BUT WE HAVE INCLUDED SOME EXCEPTIONS WHERE WE WOULD TAKE SMALLER THAN AN ACRE OF LAND.
AND THAT IS, IT CAN BE CONNECTED TO A LARGER ATTRACT OF EXISTING OPEN SPACE OR IT CAN BE IDENTIFIED AS A NEED IN THE PROS OR TRAILS MASTER PLAN.
UM, OR IT PROVIDES PARK SPACE TO AN AREA THAT IS LAGGING PARK SPACE WITHIN A HALF OF A MILE OF THE SITE.
AND SO IF THOSE PARAMETERS APPLIED, WE WOULD CONSIDER ACCEPTING LESS THAN AN ACRE OF LAND.
UM, I'VE ALSO PROVIDED OUR COMPARATOR CITIES TO THE SIDE, UM, WITH WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING AND WHAT SOME OF OUR COMPARATOR CITIES ARE REQUIRING.
UM, AND IF YOU NOTICE THEIR PARK LEVEL OF SERVICE IS HIGHER THAN OURS AND THEN OFTENTIMES THEY'RE REQUIRING, UM, LESS LAND.
AND SO THEIR LEVEL OF SERVICE IS GOING TO GO DOWN OVER TIME.
AND WHAT ADDISON IS TRYING TO DO IS KEEP IT CURRENT, KEEP OUR STANDARD.
AND SO THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION IS DOES COUNCIL SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH 1-800-PARKLAND PER A HUNDRED DWELLING UNITS? WHEN YOU SAY THEY'RE REQUIRING LESS, ISN'T ONE PER 33 MORE? WHAT? AND DID I HEAR THAT WRONG? YOU WANT ONE ACRE PER HUNDRED UNITS.
THEY'RE DOING ONE ACRE FOR 33 IS, I'M SORRY, THREE PER HUNDRED I'M YOU ARE CORRECT.
SO THEY'RE REQUIRING MORE LAND.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY ARE GOING UP.
UM, SO LIKE OUR, I GUESS THE ONE COMPARATOR CITY THAT WOULD KIND OF ALIGN WITH THE GOING DOWN WOULD BE GRAPEVINE REQUIRING ONE ACRE PER HUNDRED 44 WELDING UNITS.
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THEN, UM, ALAN ANDAND THANKS FOR CATCHING ON THAT.
CAN YOU CLARIFY SOMETHING? I THINK DAVID ANSWERED THIS FOR ME EARLIER, BUT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE THAT ACRE THAT THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US, IT'S NOT JUST DIRT, RIGHT? IT, IT WOULD BE AN ACRE OF UNDEVELOPED LAND.
UM, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME REQUIREMENTS.
SO ONE OF OUR NEXT STEPS IF YOU SUPPORT THIS, IS WE'RE GOING TO BRING A WRITTEN RESOLUTION AND ORDINANCE FORWARD THAT WOULD INCLUDE MORE INFORMATION.
AND IN THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED SOME PARAMETERS.
LIKE IF YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US FLOOD PLAIN LAND, UM, YOU'RE GONNA GET A LESS OF A CREDIT FOR IT.
AND IF YOU'RE GONNA PROVIDE US LAND THAT HAS A STEEP SLOPE, UM, YOU'RE GONNA GET A LITTLE BIT OF A LESS OF A CREDIT FOR THAT.
UM, BUT SO WHAT WE WANT IS DEVELOPABLE DEVELOPABLE LAND, BUT IT WILL BE UNDEVELOPED.
UNDEVELOPED SO THEY WON'T ALREADY GET IT LIKE A PARK AND GIVE IT TO US ALREADY DONE.
THAT'S THE PURPOSE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT FEE.
AND THEY GET TO PICK THE LAND THAT THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US.
IT WOULD BE WITHIN THEIR DEVELOPMENT OR THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN.
THEY WOULD BE, IF YOU'RE DEVELOPING A HUNDRED ACRES, THEY WOULD TAKE THAT SECTION FROM PARKLAND AND THEY WOULD DEDICATE IT TO THE TOWN, OR THE TOWN COULD SAY, THIS DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA OF WHAT WE NEED FROM PARKLAND AND WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE YOU TO PAY A FEE IN LIEU OF, AND DAVID, ARE YOU GONNA ADD SOMETHING? I THINK I WAS JUST GONNA SAY WE DO HAVE, YEAH.
WE WOULD HAVE TO AGREE THAT THIS IS THE LAND WE WANT ON THIS SITE.
BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GONNA BUILD AND IT'S GONNA BE IN THE INTERIOR OF THERE, THEN NOBODY CAN REALLY USE IT EXCEPT THEM.
AND I WOULD SAY, AND AND MAYBE JUST WHEN WE HAVE THESE AGREEMENTS, TYPICALLY IF THEY ARE DOING A PART, IT WOULDN'T BE UNCOMMON FOR US TO SAY, WELL, YOU HAVE TO BRING THIS PARK UP TO THE STANDARD BEFORE WE TAKE IT ON.
SO THAT'S STILL PART OF THAT DEVELOPER AGREEMENT CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE.
SO JENNA, YOU'D LIKE SOME FEEDBACK FROM US NOW FROM THAT YES.
YEAH, I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
AGAIN, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NO, NO FEES OF ANY KIND FOR, UH, OWNER OCCUPIED.
I LOVE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE, MAN, REALLY GREAT IN-DEPTH WORK.
AND, UH, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE OF OWNER OCCUPIED, SO I'M NOT, I'M OKAY WITH WITH DOING IT ON SINGLE FAMILY, UH, 'CAUSE THAT, 'CAUSE I CAN CHANGE.
AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION THAT WE HAVE IS THIS COUNCIL SUPPORTIVE FEE IN LIEU OF LAND AND DISCOUNTING THE COST OF AN AC OF LAND.
AND SO THIS WOULD APPLY IF EITHER A DEVELOPMENT, UM, WAS SMALL AND IT WAS LESS THAN AN ACRE OF WHAT THEY WOULD DEDICATE TO US.
THAT IT WOULD ALLOW TOWN STAFF AND PNC AND COUNCIL TO SAY WE DON'T WANT THAT 0.5 OR 0.3 ACRES OF LAND.
UM, INSTEAD WE WOULD PAY A FEE IN LIEU OF, UM, OR IF IT WAS LAND THAT WAS NOT SATISFACTORY FOR DEVELOPING PARKS ON, IT WOULD GIVE US THAT ABILITY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
UM, AND THEN WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS TO INCENTIVIZE, STILL INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT.
AN ACRE OF LAND IS ESTIMATED TO BE WORTH THE $536,000, BUT WE ARE DISCOUNTING THAT ACRE OF LAND.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO QUESTIONS.
ARE WE COMFORTABLE TAKING A FEE IN LIEU OF LAND WHEN IT MAKES SENSE? AND THESE ARE ALL, ALL DISCUSSIONS THAT WILL BE AGREED UPON AS P AND Z DISCUSSES PROJECTS AND THEN AS COUNCIL CONSIDERS PROJECTS.
UM, AND THEN ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH US DISCOUNTING THAT VALUE OF AN ANCHOR OF LAND OR SHOULD IT NOT BE DISCOUNTED? OKAY.
SO THIS WILL BE OUR, THIS WILL BE A TOWN DECISION, NOT A DEVELOPER DECISION.
A DEVELOPER WON'T SAY, HEY, I'D LIKE TO JUST PAY.
THIS WOULD BE A TOWN DECISION.
I'M, I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.
YOU PREFER NOT TO DISCOUNT THE 5 35 5 36.
WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE DISCOUNT RATE TO BE DEVELOPMENT FRIENDLY AND SHOW THAT AS A WAY TO ATTRACT A DEVELOPMENT.
YEAH, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
SO WE NEED TO THINK THE DEVELOPER WOULD ALWAYS WANT TO PAY THE FEE INSTEAD.
'CAUSE OTHERWISE THEY'RE PAYING 5 36 PER ACRE.
THEY COULD, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY OUR DECISION.
WE GET TO AS THE TOWN DECIDE IF WE WANT TO TAKE THE ACRE OF LAND OR WHATEVER THE REQUIREMENT IS IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT OR IF WE WOULD RATHER THEM PROVIDE US THE FUNDS SO WE COULD GO BUY LAND THAT WOULD BE MORE IDEAL TO MEET OUR NEEDS IF IT WASN'T TOWN LED ON THAT DECISION.
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AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS, DOES COUNCIL SUPPORT A PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE AND DISCOUNTED FEE OF 30%? SO THIS IS THE FEE THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED TO DEVELOP THE LAND, OR IT COULD BE USED TO DEVELOP EXISTING PARK LAND THAT WE HAVE.SO WE HAVE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK IN FRONT OF US, BUT WE FIND OUT THAT THERE'S A BIG DEMAND FOR A PLAYGROUND IN THE PARK.
I'M USING JUST EXTREME EXAMPLES.
WE COULD TAKE THOSE FUNDS TO BUILD A CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK WITH THAT PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE.
OR WE COULD TAKE THE NEW LAND THAT WE HAD, THAT WE BOUGHT WITH OUR FEE IN LIEU OF, AND WE CAN DEVELOP A TRAIL SYSTEM WHERE WE COULD USE THOSE FUNDS TO BUILD THE CONCRETE OR WE CAN BUILD A PLAYGROUND ALONG THE TRAIL.
SO THAT'S HOW THOSE FUNDS CAN BE USED.
UM, AND WOULD YOU SUPPORT DISCOUNTING THOSE 30%? AND I THINK IT'S HELPFUL.
THIS WAS REALLY HELPFUL FOR THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONCERN OF WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WITH ALL THIS MONEY, UM, AND IS THERE A NEED TO USE THE MONEY? BECAUSE THERE WAS ALSO A CONCERN OF NOT JUST LETTING MONEY SIT THERE AND NOT HAVING PROJECTS FOR IT.
AND SO WE PULLED OUT, UM, OUR TRAILS MASTER PLAN PROJECTS.
WE HAVE $38 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.
AND THEN WE PULLED OUT OUR CART RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE OBJECTIVES, WHICH IS $56 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, IDENTIFIED.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT FUNDING IS PROBABLY OUR NUMBER ONE CHALLENGE IN GETTING THIS PROJECTS DEVELOPED.
AND SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL.
AND SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU THAT WE DO HAVE PROJECTS TO APPLY THIS FUNDS TO YOU.
SO THIS, THIS FEE, IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, WOULD BE GOING TO DEVELOP NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UM, ALTHOUGH OCCASIONALLY I THINK SOME FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE, BUT WE THINK IT'S CLEANER.
WE HAVE A GOOD MAINTENANCE BUDGET, WE ARE TAKING CARE OF OUR MAINTENANCE NEEDS.
WE THINK IT'S BETTER TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PROJECTS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED.
UM, ONE THING THAT WE ALSO HAVE A DISCUSSION IS CAN WE USE THOSE FUNDS AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB IF WE ARE GOING TO BUILD NEW AMENITIES WITH THE ATHLETIC CLUB? SO IF WE NEED A NEW AEROBIC STUDIO AND WE NEEDED TO BUILD THAT, WE COULD USE THOSE FUNDS TO ADD TO THE ATHLETIC CLUB.
BUT WE WOULDN'T USE SUSPENSE TO PAINT THE WALLS AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB, IF THAT'S HELPFUL.
SO IT COULD BE FOR PARKS FOR THE A A C PARKS, TRAILS, OPEN SPACE, THE ATHLETIC CLUB.
LET ME ASK THE QUESTION THIS WAY.
UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED AT THE COBALT DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? THEY CAME TO US AND SAID, WE WANNA BUILD 33 TOWN HOMES.
AND WE SAID, HEY, WE WANNA, WE WANT A OPEN SPACE BUFFER.
AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD DEVELOP A TRAIL SYSTEM AS PART OF OUR MASTER PLAN.
SO THEY DID IT, THEY, THEY, THEY AGREED AND THEY'RE GONNA BUILD IT.
AND ALTHOUGH WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT PARTNERS IN COBALT AND AM THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES THAT WE'VE HAD CHALLENGES WITH THE CONTRACTORS THAT OTHER PARTNERS, UM, NOT HITTING DEADLINES AND QUALITY EXPECTATIONS.
AND IF IT'S OUR FUNDS, OUR DESIGN PROCESS WHERE WE ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE NOT SLOWING DOWN A CONSTRUCTION PRO PROJECT AND WE ARE ENSURING THAT THE CONTRACTORS ARE MEETING OUR QUALITY REQUIREMENTS, WE ARE ABLE TO CONTROL THE END PRODUCT BETTER.
AND DO WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO IT CHEAPER OR, OR COST EFFECTIVE? I WOULDN'T SAY CHEAPER.
I THINK WE CAN BE COST EFFECTIVE.
AND THEN HOW MUCH SAY WILL A DEVELOPER HAVE ON, ON THIS FUND, ON THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE? SO IF A DEVELOPER COMES INTO TOWN AND SAYS, LIKE, TO YOUR POINT, I'M BUILDING SOMETHING BY THIS PARK, BUT MAN, I'D REALLY LOVE YOU WITH MY PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE TO BUILD A DOG PARK.
I MEAN, IS THAT THE INTENT OF THIS FUND? WILL WE CONSIDER FEEDBACK OR WOULD, COULD, WILL WE TELL A DEVELOPER, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE NEW AEROBIC CENTER THAT NEEDS TO BE BILLED AND WE'VE GOT TRAILS, SO THOSE FUNDS ARE ALREADY SPENT AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU ON THAT PROJECT.
HOW, HOW DO YOU ENVISION THAT WORKING? WE WOULD CONSIDER THEIR FEEDBACK, UM, BUT WE WOULD ALSO LOOK AT, ARE THE NEEDS BEING MET SOMEWHERE ELSE IN TOWN? SO IF THE NEED IS FOR A NEW DOG PARK, UM, BUT WE HAVE A DOG PARK CLOSE BY THAT'S UNDERUSED, WHICH ISN'T THE PROBLEM IN ADDISON, BY THE WAY.
BUT IF WE MET THAT CRITERIA, UM, WE WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT ALTHOUGH WE CONSIDERED THIS, THAT THE TRUE NEED THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS X, Y, Z.
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WOULD TAKE THEIR FEEDBACK INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT WE WOULD MAKE THE DECISION THAT IS WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY.AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT CAN ALSO BE NEGOTIATED.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA JUST MENTION THAT MAYBE, I MEAN, IT, THOSE ARE KIND OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT CAN COME UP IN THE DEVELOPERS' AGREEMENT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS IF YOU'RE HAVING SOMETHING COME IN.
SO, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK, AND I, AND I, I MEAN I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JANICE SAYS THAT BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO CONSIDER IT, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT A NEW DEVELOPMENT TO COME IN AND THEY HAVE A PART THAT'S JUST SITTING THERE UNDEVELOPED OR A TRAIL THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY A TRAIL.
AND WE, WE NEED THAT TO BE SUCCESSFUL TOO.
SO I THINK OUR INTENT CERTAINLY WOULD BE THAT THAT IS COMING UP TO THE STANDARD THAT WE WANT.
AND I THINK THE DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT CAN GO A LONG WAY TO THAT.
BUT THIS GIVES US MORE LEVERAGE TO USE IN THAT.
I WOULD THINK RIGHT NOW, I I I, YOU KNOW, I, I'LL SUPPORT THIS, BUT I I DO HAVE CONCERNS.
I GOT, I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, HOW MUCH FLEXIBILITY DEVELOPERS HAVE.
I KNOW SOME OF THE NUMBERS YOU THREW UP THERE, A MILLION MILLION EIGHT AS A BANKER, I KNOW THAT'S REALLY HARD TO ADD 1,000,008 ONTO A PROJECT LIKE THAT AND STILL GET IT FUNDED PROPERLY.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE BEING COMPETITIVE OR NOT.
I LOVE THE IDEA OF TRYING, I LOVE THE IDEA OF, UM, ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO MAKE OUR PARKS AND OUR TRAILS AND OUR ATHLETIC CENTER BETTER.
BUT THIS ONE'S A HARD ONE FOR ME JUST BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'LL SCARE DEVELOPERS OFF.
SO I HAD THE SAME KIND OF THOUGHT PROCESS WITH MYSELF WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS.
AND WHAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME IS AM WE CURRENTLY IS SPENDING SIMILAR FUNDS TO WHAT WE WOULD BE ASKING THEM TO GIVE AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THEIR PROJECT FUNDED.
UM, THE SAME THING WITH COBALT, ALTHOUGH IT'S A VERY SMALL PROJECT.
THEY'RE BUILDING THE TRAIL AND THEY'RE BUILDING, UM, THE BENCHES AND THEY'RE DEDICATING IT TO US.
UM, AND THEN THE ROAD PROJECTS SPENT A MILLION DOLLARS ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF PARK AND STREETSCAPE AND
UM, BUT I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE NEED TO ALSO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AS THEY'RE BRINGING US PROJECTS AND MAKING SURE, UM, THAT WE AREN'T LETTING, YOU KNOW, THOSE EXEMPLARY PROJECTS THAT WE WANT IN ADDISON GET AWAY BECAUSE OF OUR REQUIREMENT.
BUT WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN ADDISON, THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING THOSE FEES.
THEY'RE JUST PAYING 'EM IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
THEY'RE PAYING 'EM TO A CONTRACTOR.
AND IT'S EASIER TO FINANCE THAT THAN IT IS TO SAY, GO TO A FUNDING SOURCE AND SAY, I NEED THIS FOR A FEE.
AND THOSE WILL ALWAYS BE THINGS THAT WE CAN NEGOTIATE.
SO IF WE WERE REQUIRING AM TO PAY 185 OR 80, UH, $850,000 FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES AND THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, WE'VE GOT THIS CONCRETE CONTRACTOR ON SITE THAT'S BUILDING ALL OF OUR DRIVES AND THEY CAN SAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN BUILDING THE TRAIL AND WE'RE GONNA SPEND THAT MUCH MONEY, WOULD YOU WAIVE THE FEE? AND WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE THAT.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE FLEXIBLE YEAH.
JUST AS WE ALWAYS ARE AND WE'RE GONNA LISTEN TO, YOU KNOW, PROJECT BY PROJECT, RIGHT.
CASE BY CASE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT'S THE BEST SOLUTION? CORRECT.
BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT, IT GIVES US THE CONSISTENT TARGET.
THAT WE ARE GONNA REQUIRE FAMILY TO PUT THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN, THAT WE WOULD THE NEXT DEVELOPER, I FEEL LIKE I'M PICKING ON AM 'CAUSE IT'S THE MOST CURRENT PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
UM, BUT LIKE, UM, COMPARE ADDISON GROVE, THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE A DISPAR FEE OF THE DOLLARS THAT WE'RE ASKING.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING.
IT'S A CALCULATION TOOL FOR US.
AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS NEGOTIATE.
WE KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AT THE END.
HOW WE GET THERE MIGHT VARY FROM TIME TO TIME.
'CAUSE I MEAN, YOU BRING UP A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE AND I THINK IT'S WORTH CONSIDERING, BUT I WOULD ALSO, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT THE INFILL AND WE TALKED ABOUT, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME TODAY THERE'S PARCELS WHERE THERE'S NO LAND FOR ANYTHING, SO THEY REALLY CAN'T DEVELOP ANYTHING.
SO THIS GIVES US THAT MECHANISM TO HAVE THIS FUNDS TO GO DEVELOP IT WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE THE EVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT THROUGH A CONTRACTOR PLAN.
SO THE DEVELOPMENT ON SURVEYOR IN BELTLINE, IS THAT IN LIMBO BECAUSE OF PARKLAND FEES OR IS THAT TOTALLY DIFFERENT?
SO SO YOU WANT, UH, AN ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION? YES.
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ANSWER THAT YET, DID WE? WELL, MY ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES, I'M GOOD.
I THINK THE ONE OTHER THING, I SHOULD HAVE ADDED SOME SLIDE, BUT IT'S AN EASY ASK IS ARE YOU ALSO COMFORTABLE WITH US CHARGING THOSE FEES FOR COMMERCIAL HOTELS, INDUSTRIAL? I THINK I SHOWED YOU THAT THEY WERE ALL RELATIVELY SMALL, BUT SMALL.
I THINK THEY'RE ALSO APPROPRIATE KNOWING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE OUR
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BUSINESS COMMUNITY.UM, AND THEN WITH THAT SAID, OUR NEXT STEPS, UM, SO WE WILL BEGIN REVIEWING AND REVISING BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL, UM, IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN ORDINANCE TO BRING FORWARD.
OUR GOAL IS TO PRESENT THAT ON SEPTEMBER 10TH.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO, TO BE ABLE TO HIT THAT DEADLINE.
UM, BUT THE REASON THAT WE ARE SHOOTING FOR THAT IS BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CLEAN START ON OCTOBER 1ST, THE BEGINNING OF OUR FISCAL YEAR, UM, THAT WE IMPLEMENT OUR UPDATED PROCESS.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY ON THIS? THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S THE END OF THAT ITEM.
AND UH, JUST TO REMIND YOU, SIX, SIX C WE'RE POSTPONING UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
SIX E WE'RE GOING TO DO AT THE END OF OUR REGULAR MEETING.
SO AT THIS POINT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A NINE MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL GET READY FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.
IT IS SEVEN 50 AND WE'LL CALL THE ORDER OF THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL.
AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT PRESENT WITH ALL, UH, MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE.
AND WE APOLOGIZE FOR OUR TARDINESS.
WE HAD A VERY, VERY BUSY WORK SESSION TONIGHT.
AND AS WE ALWAYS LIKE TO DO, WE LIKE TO START OUR MEETINGS WITH THE PLEDGES TO BOTH OF OUR FLAGS.
IF YOU PLEASE RISE AS YOU'RE ABLE A PLEDGE.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IT STANDS, NATION, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
[a. City Manager's Announcements ]
INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS TWO A IS CITY MANAGER ANNOUNCEMENTS AND TWO B EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION.JUST A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR TONIGHT.
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THAT WE ARE FOGGING FOR MOSQUITOES TOMORROW AND TOMORROW AND THURSDAY.
WE'VE ACTUALLY FOGGED MANY WEEKS OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF WEEKS.
UM, 'CAUSE BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A GROWING NUMBER OF WEST NILE CASES IN DALLAS COUNTY, AS HAS BEGUN TO SPRAY THE ENTIRE TOWN.
WHEN WE RECEIVE A POSITIVE TEST ON ANY TRAP IN TOWN, WE'LL CONTINUE THIS PROTOCOL FOR THE DURATION OF THE SEASON BEFORE SPRAYING, WE'LL POST AN ALERT ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, NEXT DOOR AND FACEBOOK PAGE.
PAGES AND SIGNS ARE PLACED THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
YOU CAN REGISTER TO RECEIVE A TEXT MESSAGE BY SUB SUBSCRIBING TO ADDISON ALERT.
NEXT, MARK, MARK YOUR CALENDAR FOR POPUP YOGA, SPONSORED BY ADDISON OUTDOORS FROM NINE TO 10:00 AM ON AUGUST 24TH HERE AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.
THOSE ARE ALL OF OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS, AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO EMPLOYEE
[b. Employee Recognition]
RECOGNITION.I'LL ASK LESLIE NI TO COME UP FOR OUR RECOGNITION.
GOOD EVENING, LESLIE NI, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
UM, THIS EVENING I'M PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE UMBERTO VEGA.
UMBERTO JOINED DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AS A SENIOR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR.
BERTO WAS BORN AND RAISED IN WAXAHATCHEE, WHERE HE GRADUATED FROM WAXAHATCHEE HIGH SCHOOL BEFORE EARNING HIS DEGREES FROM NAVARRO COLLEGE AND THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS.
AS A LIFELONG TEXAS BERTO HAS BEEN A DEDICATED TEXAS RANGERS FAN FOR AS LONG AS HE CAN REMEMBER.
UMBERTO IS A DEVOTED HUSBAND TO HIS WIFE, CATHERINE.
WHILE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN, THEY'RE PROUD PET PARENTS TO THREE DOGS.
UH, THEY HAVE FLORENCE, A SHEPHERD MIX, WINSTON, A MINIATURE SCHNAUZER, AND OLIVER, A TERRIER MIX.
UMBERTO IS PROUD TO HAVE MARRIED HIS BEST FRIEND TOGETHER.
HE AND CATHERINE HAVE WORKED HARD TO BUILD THE LIFE THEY ENJOY AND ARE GRATEFUL FOR ALL THEY HAVE.
THEY STRIVE TO BE GOOD PEOPLE AND TO LIVE A MEANINGFUL LIFE OUTSIDE OF WORK.
UMBERTO LOVES STAYING ACTIVE AND SPENDING TIME IN NATURE.
HE ENJOYS THE YARD WORK, RAILING AND SOCIALIZING WITH FRIENDS.
HIS HOBBIES INCLUDE PLAYING SOFTBALL, GOLF, AND HAS RECENTLY TAKEN UP PICKLEBALL AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB.
HE'S VERY EXCITED TO START PLAYING ON THE NEWLY RENOVATED OUTDOOR COURTS.
BERTO IS DRAWN TO APPLY TO ADDISON BECAUSE THE TOWN'S STRONG EMPHASIS ON CUSTOMER SERVICE, WHICH ALLOWS HIM TO CONNECT WITH COWORKERS AND RESIDENTS ON A MORE PERSONAL LEVEL.
PROFESSIONALLY, HE IS PROUD OF THE WORK HE HAS DONE AND THE RELATIONSHIPS HE HAS BUILT WITH HIS PAST EMPLOYEES.
HE FINDS IT VERY REWARDING TO HAVE A POSITIVE, UH, RAPPORT WITH HIS FORMER COLLEAGUES AND SUPERVISORS.
WHEN ASKED WHAT THE ADDISON WAY MEANS TO HIM, UMBERTO DESCRIBED IT AS A PHILOSOPHY THAT ENRICHES BOTH YOURSELF AND THOSE AROUND YOU, CREATING A POSITIVE CULTURE FOR THE TOWN AND ITS RESIDENTS, WHICH MAKES IT A PLEASURE FOR HIM TO COME TO WORK HERE EVERY DAY.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING UMBERTO.
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THANK YOU.SIR, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE WARM WELCOME AND I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE.
AND, UH, EXCITED TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY OF ADDISON.
[3. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.]
UH, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA OR NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES.
AND IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, BESIDES THE ONE CARD THAT I HAVE, UH, BE READY TO COME UP.
BUT FIRST PERSON I WILL CALL IS MR. TYLER WRIGHT.
AND AS YOU COME UP, IF YOU WOULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU DO HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES.
OH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
I LIVE AT 15 7 2 5 ARTIST WAY.
UH, JUST ACROSS THE STREET HERE.
UM, MY FRIEND CURTIS DID SIGN UP AS WELL ONLINE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRACKED SOMEWHERE.
WE, WE BOTH HAVE VERY SIMILAR TOPICS.
SO, UM, SO TONIGHT I WANTED TO SPEAK WITH Y'ALL BRIEFLY ABOUT PARKING MINIMUMS. UM, IT'S KIND OF A BIG THING IN THE NEW URBANISM MOVEMENT AND, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF SWEEPING THE STATE BY STORM AS WELL AS MANY OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY.
UH, AUSTIN RE RECENTLY, UH, ELIMINATED THEM.
AND I THINK THERE'S A GOOD NUMBER OF REASONS TO CONSIDER THIS FOR ADDISON AS WELL.
UM, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE, UH, 2050 CPAC, UH, UH, EXCUSE ME, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WILL BE ROLLING OUT LATER THIS YEAR.
UM, I THINK SOME, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS CAN BE EDUCATED BY STAFF ABOUT SOME OF THE LOGISTICS OF ALL THIS, BUT, UM, I THINK SOME OF THE BIG THINGS TO THINK ABOUT IS LIKE, IF IT'S PARKING, IT CAN'T REALLY BE ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, STRONG TOWNS REFERS TO THIS AS EFFECTIVELY LAND WASTE.
AND ADDISON DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF LAND TO WASTE.
UM, I THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE, UH, CREATIVE AND, UH, INNOVATIVE LAND USE THAT MIGHT GO AWAY OR THAT MIGHT HAPPEN IF YOU GET RID OF PARKING MINIMUMS. UH, ONE THING I WAS THINKING OF JUST TODAY WAS, UH, UM, BELTLINE BETWEEN ADDISON AND TOLLWAY.
UH, THERE'S A GOOD NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BELTLINE AND THERE'S A HUGE PARKING LOT BEHIND IT.
THAT HUGE PARKING LOT IS NEVER FULL EVER, EVER.
AND, UM, IN LIGHT OF SOME OF THE CONSULTANTS' COMMENTS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING COMMITTEE ABOUT TAKING BELTLINE AND MAKING IT A COMPLETE STREET, MORE WALKABLE, MAYBE NARROWER LANES, LARGER SIDEWALKS, ET CETERA, THERE COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMETHING LIKE A PEDESTRIAN PLAZA TO CONNECT THOSE RESTAURANTS AND AT PARKING IN THE BACK.
SO, STILL PLENTY OF PARKING, BUT MORE FUN LAND USE THAT MIGHT INVITE PEOPLE TO NOT ONLY VISIT, BUT TO STAY.
I WAS REALLY HOPING CURTIS WOULD GO FIRST 'CAUSE I WANTED TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF HIS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE GETTING RID OF PARKING MINIMUMS DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLE CAN'T BUILD THE PARKING THEY NEED.
UM, A LOT OF YOU ARE BUSINESS OWNERS OR HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE RUNNING BUSINESSES AT PRETTY HIGH LEVELS, UM, AND YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND, UH, HOW POWERFUL IT IS TO HAVE THAT CHOICE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT THIS OR CONSIDER SOME POLICY CHANGES IN LIGHT OF THE UNIVERSAL DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT'S COMING THROUGH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER IT.
UM, A LOT OF YOU HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER OR EMAIL AND I'D LOVE TO TALK MORE.
NEXT UP, LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE CURTIS, CURTIS, CURTIS GREEN, RIGHT? YES.
I GUESS I FILLED OUT THE, UH, COMMENT FORM ON RYAN WRONG.
UM, HI, MY NAME IS CURTIS GREEN.
I LIVE AT 1 5 8 0 0 SPECTRUM DRIVE.
UH, LATE LAST YEAR, I WROTE TO THE COUNCIL TALKING ABOUT PARKING MINIMUMS, AS TYLER MENTIONED BRIEFLY.
UH, THIS TIME I'M TALKING ABOUT IT AGAIN.
UM, BUT COMING WITH SOME MORE DATA OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, I HAVE TRACED EVERY PARKING LOT WITHIN ADDISON SO THAT WE COULD PUT UP A LAND USE MAP IN ORDER TO FIND OUT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF LAND IN ADDISON IS DEDICATED TO PARKING.
AND I FOUND THAT IT'S AROUND 20%, UM, WHICH IS A PRETTY HIGH NUMBER, BUT IT ONLY INCLUDES PARKING LOTS OFF STREET AND, UM, PARKING GARAGES.
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE PODIUM PARKING OR STREET PARKING.
SO THE AMOUNT OF, YOU KNOW, ACTUAL PARKING IS EVEN LARGER THAN 20%.
UM, AND SO YOU MIGHT BE THINKING, OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A LOT OF PARKING, BUT THERE'S SOME PLACES LIKE VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, WHICH USE A LOT OF PARKING.
THERE ARE SOME PLACES THAT SOMETIMES DO USE A LOT OF PARKING.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I WANNA SAY, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT REMOVING, YOU KNOW, PARKING ITSELF.
I'M TALKING ABOUT NOT REQUIRING BUILDING EXCESS PARKING, UH, WHICH PARKING MINIMUMS OFTEN DO, WHICH IF YOU, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE ON THE COUNCIL, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE MEETINGS.
OFTENTIMES YOU'LL SEE PARKING MINIMUMS COME UP FOR BASICALLY ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN FRONT OF THE, UH, THE COUNCIL.
AND SOMETIMES THOSE INCLUDE, UM, YOU KNOW, REQUESTS FOR EXCEPTIONS TO PARKING.
EXAMPLE WOULD BE, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS MCDONALD'S.
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YOU KNOW, THEY SAID MORE PEOPLE USE THE DRIVE THROUGH, NOW WE WANNA, IT'S BLOCKING THE, THE PARKING ANYWAYS.UM, AND SO THEY HAD TO PAY AND WAIT FOR A PARKING STUDY.
THEY SAID, OKAY, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM, AND YOU WENT AHEAD.
UM, AND SO THERE ARE SOME, YOU KNOW, COSTS ASSOCIATED BOTH WITH THE, THE LAND USE IN THE SPACE AS WELL AS THE TIME ON STAFF AND THE LAND, UH, OWNERS THEMSELVES.
UM, AND SO, OKAY, YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, WHY DON'T WE JUST, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THE MINIMUMS RATHER THAN REMOVING 'EM ALL TOGETHER.
UM, BUT THAT IMPLIES, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO REDUCE THE MINIMUMS TO.
UM, SO YOU COULD RESEARCH EVERY POSSIBLE LAND USE, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME EDGE CASES AND EXCEPTIONS.
AND I'M NOT SURE THE, THE JUICE IS WORTH THE SQUEEZE, ESSENTIALLY.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY EDWARD BAUMAN'S, HIS CUSTOM CLOTHING STORE AND ROSS DRESSED FOR LESS, THOSE ARE BOTH CLOTHING STORES.
SHOULD THEY BOTH HAVE THE SAME RATIO? I THINK THOSE BUSINESSES ARE, THEY'RE BOTH CLOTHING STORES.
THEY'RE CATEGORIZED THE SAME, BUT ONE HAS VERY DIFFERENT MARGINS IN THE BUSINESS MODEL.
YOU KNOW, UH, ONE HAS LOW VOLUME, YOU KNOW, HIGH MARGINS, ONE HAS HIGH VOLUME, LOW MARGIN.
I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE, UM, TO DO IT THAT WAY.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF PARKING ALWAYS NEEDS TO, I'M NOT SURE IF PARKING ALWAYS SCALES LINEARLY WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF BUILDING.
UM, AND SO FOR THESE REASONS, PLUS THE, THE COST TO STORM WATER DRAINAGE FOR IMPERVIOUS SURFACE OR, UH, THE HEAT OR SPREADING THINGS APART, OR MAYBE MAKING A LOCATION LESS ATTRACTIVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO ACQUIRE THE LAND NEXT TO IT FOR PARKING, MAYBE THEY'LL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IF THEY HAVE LOWER MINIMUMS, PLEASE CONSIDER IT.
UH, IS THERE ANYBODY, ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION AND MOVE ON TO ITEM
[4. Consent Agenda. All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]
FOUR, THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDES ITEM FOUR A THROUGH FOUR D.IS THERE A MOTION FROM NANCY? THANK YOU SECOND, AND FROM DARREN FOR A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, CONSENT IS APPROVED.
[a. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request for a Special Use Permit (SUP) for property located at 16301 Quorum Drive, that is currently zoned Commercial-1 (C-1), to allow a philanthropic institution. Case 1918-SUP/Jewish Family Service of Greater Dallas.]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC HEARINGS FIVE A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SUP FOR PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 1 6 3 0 1 QUORUM DRIVE THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL ONE C ONE TO ALLOW A PHILANTHROPIC INSTITUTION CASE.1918 DASH U SLASH JEWISH FAMILY SERVICE OF GREATER DALLAS, LESLIE.
LESLIE NI, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
UH, THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, FOR, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY AT 16 3 0 1 CORRUM DRIVE.
THIS IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE PARKSIDE CORPORATE CENTER.
UH, THE APPLICANT, JEWISH JEWISH FAMILY SERVICE OF GREATER DALLAS OR JFS, UM, IS, UH, CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT FOR THE PROPERTY AND HAS PROPOSED TO, UM, OWN AND OCCUPY THE SITE FOR, UH, THEIR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
SO THIS PARTICULAR SITE WAS FIRST DEVELOPED, UH, GENERALLY WITH ITS, ITS CURRENT, UM, IMPROVEMENTS IN 2001.
UH, SO THAT INCLUDED TWO, THE TWO EXISTING OFFICE STRUCTURES.
I'LL ALSO NOTE THAT IN 2001, OUR CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE WAS ALSO IN EFFECT.
AND SO, UH, YOU'LL MAY HAVE SEEN IN THE STAFF REPORT THROUGH THE ANALYSIS THAT THE SITE, UH, GENERALLY MEETS ALL OF THE ZONING STANDARDS.
SO THERE WASN'T A LOT OF NON-CONFORMITY, UH, WITHIN THE SITE AS IT WAS DEVELOPED UNDER OUR CURRENT STANDARDS THAT STILL EXIST TODAY.
AND AS I MENTIONED, THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A PHILANTHROPIC INSTITUTION, UH, WHICH IS JEWISH FAMILY SERVICE OF GREATER DALLAS.
SO JFS, UH, PROVIDES FOUR CORE SERVICES, AND THAT INCLUDES, UH, PHYSICAL HEALTH, EMOTIONAL HEALTH, NUTRITIONAL, UH, AND FINANCIAL HEALTH.
UM, WITHIN THOSE, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT, UM, SERVICE OFFERINGS OR PROGRAMS THAT THEY PROVIDE.
UM, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, 60 EMPLOYEES WITH, UH, THIS NEW LOCATION.
THEY WOULD HOPE TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND TO 85 TO 120 EMPLOYEES ON SITE.
UH, THEY CURRENTLY ARE A BIT CONSTRAINED AT THEIR EXISTING LOCATION.
UH, THEY HAVE BEEN AT 42, EXCUSE ME, 54 0 2 ARAPAHOE ROAD, WHICH IS, UH, JUST ACROSS THE TOLLWAY IN DALLAS FOR THE LAST 23 YEARS.
UH, THEY HAVE, UH, IN A LOT OF WAYS OUTGROWN THAT SPACE AND WOULD LIKE TO, UH, EXPAND THEIR PROGRAM OFFERINGS AS WELL AS, UM, PRO PROVIDE SOME IMPROVED SPACES FOR THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT THEY DO CURRENTLY OFFER, UH, WHICH IS WHY THEY HAVE EXPLORED, UH, RELOCATING AND IDENTIFIED THIS, UM, SUBJECT PROPERTY AS A POTENTIAL LOCATION.
GENERALLY, UH, THE SERVICES THEY DO OFFER, UM, SOME OF THEM HAVE VARYING OPERATING
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HOURS, WHICH I'LL GET INTO IN JUST A MOMENT.UH, BUT THEIR TYPICAL HOURS OF OPERATION, UH, ARE DURING THE WEEKDAYS AND MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY, 8:30 AM TO 8:00 PM UH, THURSDAY, 8:30 AM TO 6:00 PM AND THEN, UM, CLOSING AN HOUR EARLIER AT 5:00 PM ON FRIDAYS.
I THINK MY SLIDES GOT, UM, SHUFFLED AROUND A BIT.
UM, SO LOOKING AT THE FOOD PANTRY, WHICH IS UNDER ONE OF THE PROGRAMS OFFERED BY JFS, UH, THE NUTRITIONAL HEALTH PROGRAM, UM, THEY DO, UH, OPERATE THIS PROGRAM BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.
AND SO THEY HAVE RECENTLY STREAMLINED THEIR OPERATIONS TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCY, WHICH WAS, UH, A NEED, UM, ON THEIR CURRENT, AT THEIR CURRENT LOCATION AS THEY HAD SOME CONSTRAINTS, BOTH, UH, SPACE AS WELL AS CIRCULATION WISE.
AND SO THEY DO OFFER 15 MINUTE APPOINTMENT SLOTS, AND THEY HAVE SEVEN CLIENTS PER APPOINTMENT.
THEY DO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THE FOOD PANTRY, UM, ON A, A NEED-BASED, AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO QUALIFY.
UH, SO JFS IS A MEMBER OF THE, UM, NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK.
SO IN ORDER TO BE SERVED, YOU MUST BE WITHIN A QUALIFYING LOCATION.
UH, THIS MAP, UM, ON THE, THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IDENTIFIES ALL OF THE AREAS WHICH JFS DOES SERVE.
UH, SO IF THEY ARE NOT WITHIN THAT AREA, THEY CANNOT SERVE THEM AND THEY CAN REFER THEM TO ANOTHER LOCATION THAT WHERE THEY CAN BE SERVED.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE LIMITED HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE FOOD PANTRY.
AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS BY APPOINTMENT ONLY.
UH, THAT THOSE INCLUDE THURSDAY, EXCUSE ME, TUESDAY, THURSDAY AND FRIDAY FROM 9:00 AM TO 1:00 PM AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO OPEN THE THIRD MONDAY OF EACH MONTH FROM 10:00 AM TO 1:00 PM.
UH, THEY DO GENERALLY ACCEPT, UH, DELIVERIES FROM THE, UM, VARIOUS SOURCES FOR THE FOOD PANTRY ON MONDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS.
SO LOOKING AT THE EXISTING LOCATION, UM, AND HOW THEY WOULD OCCUPY THE SPACE, THERE ARE TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS.
THEY ARE, UH, CONNECTED BY A, UH, WALKWAY ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
UM, BOTH THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
EACH OF THE BUILDINGS IS 50,000 SQUARE FEET AND EACH FLOOR OF EACH BUILDING ABOUT 25,000 SQUARE FEET.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, EACH OF THOSE FLOORS ARE USED FOR ONE OF THE CORE SERVICE AREAS.
THEY ARE OVERLAPPED IN SOME ASPECTS.
UH, YOU CAN SEE ON, UH, THIS SCREEN BEFORE YOU, THE AREAS IDENTIFIED IN BLUE ARE THOSE MORE PRIVATE AREAS THAT ARE USED FOR THE ORGANIZATION, KIND OF BEHIND THE SCENES, IF YOU WILL.
THE AREAS THAT ARE IN YELLOW ARE AREAS WHICH, UM, ARE OPEN TO THE CUSTOMER OR AREAS WHICH THEY WOULD SERVE A CUSTOMER, UM, WITHIN.
AND THEN GOING, TAKING IT A STEP FURTHER, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PROGRAM OFFERINGS THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING, UM, BUILDING A, WHICH IS THE NORTH MOST BUILDING ON THE SITE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SITE PLAN, UM, IN THE FIRST FLOOR, UH, THIS IS THE LOCATION, WHAT THEY'RE, WHERE THEY'RE OFFERING MANY OF THEIR, UM, PHYSICAL HEALTH SERVICES AT THEIR CURRENT LOCATION.
THEY DO NOT OFFER A MEDICAL CLINIC, ALTHOUGH THEY DO HAVE OTHER MEDICAL CLINICS IN THE, THE METROPLEX.
UH, THEY WOULD LIKE TO OFFER ONE AT THIS LOCATION.
UH, SO ON THE FIRST FLOOR THERE IS A LOBBY INTAKE AREA, UM, SOME TRAINING ROOMS. SO THERE'S ALSO THE MEDICAL CLINIC.
THEY'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED AN AREA WHICH THEY HOPE FOR FUTURE EXPANSION OF THEIR MEDICAL, UM, OFFERINGS, WHICH MAY INCLUDE A DENTAL CLINIC.
I'LL ALSO NOTE THAT WHILE THEY DO, UM, JFS SERVES MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED, UH, THEY ALSO WOULD ACCEPT MOST, UM, INSURANCES AND CAN SERVE EVERYONE IF YOU SO WISH TO USE THEIR, THEIR MEDICAL CLINIC.
AND IN THE FIRST FLOOR OF BUILDING B IS WHERE THE FOOD PANTRY WILL BE, UH, LOCATED.
THEY HAVE PROPOSED A VERY MINOR EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, AND ONE OF THOSE INCLUDES A NEW DOORS FOR THE FOOD PANTRY SO THAT THEY HAVE, UM, A CLEAR CHECK-IN POINT, A SHOPPING AREA, AND THEN A DEDICATED EXIT AS WELL.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE, UM, CROSS CIRCULATING THROUGH THE SPACE.
THERE'S ALSO A BREAK ROOM FOR, UH, JFS EMPLOYEES, A TRAINING CENTER, AND THEN FUTURE EXPANSION FOR OFFICE.
AS I MENTIONED, THEY HAVE 60 EMPLOYEES NOW AND HOPE TO GROW, UH, TO 85 TO 120 AT THIS LOCATION.
AND THEN LOOKING AT, UH, THE SECOND FLOOR OF THOSE OFFICE BUILDINGS, UH, IN THE NORTHERNMOST BUILDING, THEY HAVE THEIR COURIER AND FINANCIAL SERVICES STAFF OFFICES, UH, MEETING SPACE, AND THEN A SMALL AREA DESIGNATED FOR FUTURE EXPANSION AS WELL.
AND THEN IN, UH, BUILDING B IS WHERE THEY OFFER THEIR EMOTIONAL HEALTH SERVICES.
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BE A VARIETY OF, OF HEALTH OR OTHER SUPPORT SERVICES TO SUPPORT MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESSES OR TRAUMAS.UH, ONE THING THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR JFS WAS TO PROVIDE AN INVITING PLAY THERAPY ROOM FOR, UM, ADOLESCENTS OR CHILDREN WHO WERE HAVING THERAPY.
UM, AT THIS LOCATION, AT THEIR CURRENT LOCATIONS, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT, THEY'RE SMALLER THAN WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO OFFER AT THIS LOCATION.
THEY ALSO HAVE SOME MEETING SPACE AS WELL AS, UM, SOME FUTURE EXPANSION SPACE DESIGNATED AS WELL.
SO, UH, AS I MENTIONED, THIS SITE WAS DEVELOPED UNDER THE CURRENT CODE.
SO THERE WAS, UM, NOT A LOT OF ISSUES, UH, FROM A CODE COMPLIANCE STANDPOINT DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW.
UM, THERE ARE NO PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO THE EXISTING PARKING LOT.
UM, THERE ARE 353 SPACES PROVIDED.
UH, THIS SITE WILL OPERATE PRIMARILY BY APPOINTMENT ONLY AND HAVE A FAIRLY LIMITED DELIVERIES.
UM, WITH THOSE FOR THE FOOD PANTRY BEING ON MONDAY AND WEDNESDAYS, THERE'S ALSO A DESIGNATED LOADING AND UNLOADING AREA, UM, JUST IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF BUILDING A THE NORTHERNMOST BUILDING.
UM, SO ALL IN ALL STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE PAR EXISTING PARKING ON SITE WILL MEET THE DEMAND OF THE, UM, OF JFS USING AND OCCUPYING THIS OFFICE BUILDING, UH, THEIR OPERATIONS OC OR FUNCTION VERY SIMILARLY TO AN OFFICE.
UH, SO ONCE AGAIN, WE BELIEVE THAT THE DEMAND WILL BE ABLE TO BE ACCOMMODATED.
LOOKING AT THE, UM, LANDSCAPING ONSITE, UH, THE LANDSCAPE WAS IN COMPLIANCE FOR THE MOST PART.
THERE WAS ONE ITEM, UH, REGARDING THE LANDSCAPING BUFFER, WHICH IS A LONG QUORUM.
IT IS REQUIRED, UM, OVER TIME IT'S LIKELY THAT THOSE SHRUBS, UM, DIED THROUGH VARIOUS, UH, WINTER WEATHER OR FREEZE OR THE HEAT.
YOU NEVER KNOW EXTREME WEATHER CONDITIONS.
UH, SO WE ARE ASKING THE APPLICANT TO INSTALL THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WHICH INCLUDES NEW EVERGREEN SHRUBS ALONG QUORUM DRIVE.
THERE ARE NO OTHER MODIFICATIONS, UM, TO THE SITE.
UM, AND ANY LANDSCAPING WILL NEED TO BE BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE, UM, APPROVED LANDSCAPE PLAN.
AS SHOWN BEFORE YOU, FOR THE EXTERIOR APPEARANCE, AS I MENTIONED, THERE ARE TWO NEW EXTERIOR DOORS PROPOSED ON THE SOUTHERNMOST BUILDING TO FACILITATE THE CIRCULATION OF THE FOOD PANTRY.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL MODIFICATIONS TO EITHER, UM, OF THE OFFICE BUILDINGS STAFF SENT PUBLIC NOTICE OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE.
UH, THERE WERE 10 RECIPIENTS WITHIN THAT BUFFER.
WE DID RECEIVE ONE RESPONSE, UH, IN FAVOR OF, AND THAT WAS FROM MARY KAY.
AND THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THIS, IN THE PACKET.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO, UH, AN ADDITIONAL, UM, FEEDBACK PROVIDED FROM METROCREST SERVICES, WHICH WAS ALSO PROVIDED IN THE PACKET.
UM, AND THEY ARE IN, IN FAVOR IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST AS WELL.
UM, THIS ITEM WENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT THEIR LAST MEETING, AND THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE REQUEST, A SEVEN TO ZERO.
UH, STAFF BELIEVES THAT THIS PROPOSED USE WOULD BE A GOOD UJFS WOULD BE A GOOD USE FOR THIS SITE OPERATING VERY SIMILAR TO HOW AN OFFICE BUILDING WOULD FUNCTION ON SITE.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL BE A GREAT CONTRIBUTION TO, TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, UH, WITH ONE STIPULATION.
AND THAT, UH, IS THAT THERE SHALL BE NO OUTSIDE STORAGE OF, OF, OF GOODS EQUIPMENT OR MATERIAL.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, THE CEO OF GF, JF S'S ALSO PRESENT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE? MARLON, I'VE GOT A FEW, UM, COMMUNITIES OF ENTRY.
UH, THERE WAS A LETTER IN THE PACKET.
UM, ARE THEY WITHIN THE NOTICE AREA? THEY ARE AND, AND I'LL, UM, SO THERE WAS A J UH, VENTRE COMMUNITIES DID SUBMIT A LETTER OF OPPOSITION.
UM, HOWEVER THEY RESCINDED THEIR LETTER, UM, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE PACKET.
UM, AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION.
OKAY, SO IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, ROUGHLY 16,000 USERS, UH, MAYBE 900 IN ADDISON, THAT GENERALLY YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND SO, UM, DO, WHEN YOU WERE LOOKING AT THIS, DID, DID YOUR DEPARTMENT HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND, UM, ON A WEEKLY OR MONTHLY BASIS, HOW MANY USERS WOULD BE COMING INTO THIS, INTO THIS BUILDING? YES, WE DID LOOK AT TRAFFIC.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT, UM, THEY DID PROVIDE A CIRCULATION PLAN.
THERE WAS A COUPLE OF, OF THINGS ON A, ON A BROAD SCALE THAT WE LOOKED AT, UH, ESPECIALLY COMING, UM, YOU KNOW, OFF THE PANDEMIC AND HOW A LOT OF THINGS
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CHANGED RAPIDLY IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.SO THINKING ABOUT WHAT IF THE FOOD PANTRY WENT TO A, UM, SIMILAR TO HOW IT, HOW IT OPERATED DURING THE PANDEMIC WHERE YOU DIDN'T COME INSIDE TO SHOP, YOU GOT A, A BOX LOADED INTO YOUR TRUNK AND YOU DROVE AWAY.
SO HOW WOULD WE POTENTIALLY ACCOMMODATE THOSE DIFFERENT OPERATIONS? SO WE DID LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS, UH, TO ENSURE THAT LONG TERM THIS USE COULD BE SUCCESSFUL HERE, EVEN WITH CHANGING OPERATIONS OR DEMANDS.
UM, THE RESULT OF THAT WAS A, UM, LIKE A TRAFFIC FLOW PLAN FOR HOW THEY WOULD ACCOMMODATE THAT IF THAT WERE TO BECOME A NEED, UM, TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE CARS WEREN'T LINING ONTO QUORUM AND SO FORTH.
THE OTHER THING WE LOOKED AT WAS, UM, AS FAR AS AN OCCUPANCY OF THE ACTUAL SPACE THERE, THE TYPICAL EMPLOYEES THAT ARE THERE EVERY DAY, I'M GONNA SAY DURING THEIR WORKING HOURS, WHICH ARE GENERALLY AROUND EIGHT TO EIGHT TO 7:00 PM UH, DEPENDING UPON THE DAY, UH, IS QUITE LOW IN COMPARISON TO THE OVERALL CAPACITY.
EVEN AT THEIR MAXIMUM EXPANSION OF 120 PEOPLE, UH, THEY HAVE 353 SPACES ON, ON SITE.
ADDITIONALLY, THEY OPERATE BY PRIMARILY APPOINTMENT.
SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING, UM, A HU IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE HAVING, UM, I'M GONNA SAY A LARGE EVENTS HERE.
YOU HAVE AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE AT A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME.
YOU HAVE A SLOW TURNOVER OF PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU HAVE YOUR FOOD PANTRY, WHICH TAKES UP, UM, NEARLY AN, I GUESS AN EIGHTH OF THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA, WHICH HAS VERY LIMITED HOURS DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, THREE DAYS A WEEK.
DO WE, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW MANY USERS WOULD BE COMING INTO THIS, UH, IF APPROVED INTO THIS, UH, AREA? WEEKLY.
WEEKLY, SO, OR SOMETHING, ANYTHING CLOSE TO THAT? YEAH, SO I THINK, UH, I'LL LET JFS OKAY.
RESPOND TO SOME OF THEIR APPOINTMENTS AS FAR AS SOME OF THE OTHER FACILITIES.
UM, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY SERVE THE FOOD PANTRY, UH, APPROXIMATELY 112 CUSTOMERS PER DAY.
I'LL HOLD THAT QUESTION UNTIL THEY CAN, UNTIL THEIR POINT IN TIME YEAH.
BUT CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS? YES, OF COURSE.
UM, SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WILL BE THE TAX RAMIFICATIONS IF THIS WERE APPROVED? YEAH, SO JFS IS A, UM, THEY'RE A, A NONPROFIT, REGISTERED NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
SO THEY DO QUALIFY FOR TAX EXEMPT STATUS.
UM, OUR, UM, CFO, UH, STEPHEN GLUCKMAN, HE DID RUN THE NUMBERS AND IT'S JUST OVER $50,000, UH, FOR THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS THAT, UM, THE, THE PROPERTY WOULD BE ASSESSED FOR AT, AT THIS TIME.
AND IS THAT, MAYBE I SHOULD ASK STEVEN, DOES THAT INCLUDE BILL? UH, LIKE WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE RECEIVING RIGHT NOW FOR BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY? THAT, THAT WAS THE ONLY THE, UH, THE, THE REAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT WAS JUST THE TOWN OF ADDISON'S PORTION OF PROPERTY TAX.
AND SO YOUR, WHAT YOUR, YOUR NUMBER IS, UH, 50,615 IS WHAT YOU SHARED? UM, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND SO THERE'D BE A LITTLE BIT MORE BPP, ARE THEY TAX EXEMPT FOR BPP? THEY ARE.
THE, UH, BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY OF THE PREVIOUS, UM, TENANTS OVER THERE WAS, UH, I BELIEVE IN TOTAL ABOUT $500,000 FOR US.
THAT WOULD BE, UM, APPROXIMATELY $3,000 IN, IN PROPERTY TAX ON THE BUSINESS.
PERSONAL PROPERTY, IT CAN VARY WIDELY BY WHAT TYPE OF, UH, OCCUPANT THERE IS.
I'M SORRY, ONE MORE TIME ON THAT LAST PART.
THREE, IT COULD VARY WIDELY DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF OCCUPANT IT IT IS OCCUPYING THE SPACE ON.
YOU KNOW, IT SOME, THERE'S NOT ANY BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY.
SOME THERE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, A LOT MORE.
SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF USER.
AND, UH, DID, WAS THERE A QUESTION FOR, FOR THE APPLICANT, NANCY? SURE.
COME ON UP AND YOU WANNA GO AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS JUST FOR THE RECORDS SO WE HAVE IT? YES.
I'M KATHY BARKER, I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF JEWISH FAMILY SERVICE OF GREATER DALLAS.
UH, OUR ADDRESS IS 54 0 2 ARAPAHOE ROAD, UH, IN DALLAS.
WHAT KIND OF, UM, IT WAS STATED THAT YOU HAVE LIKE 60 EMPLOYEES NOW.
WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME WOULD, WOULD YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING? AND THEN I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
UM, THE REASON WHY WE'RE MOVING INTO A LARGER SPACE IS BECAUSE, UH, THE DEMAND FOR SERVICES, YOU KNOW,
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AS YOU CAN IMAGINE COMING OFF OF A PANDEMIC AND EVERYTHING HAS JUST INCREASED.WE'RE ONE OF THE LARGER MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS, UH, FOR NONPROFITS ACTUALLY IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS PLANNING FOR FUTURE GROWTH.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE 60 EMPLOYEES, I WOULD SAY, UM, IT'S GONNA TAKE PROBABLY FIVE TO EIGHT YEARS TO GET UP TO THAT.
SO IT'S A, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE EVERYTHING VERY SLOWLY AND VERY STRATEGICALLY.
AND, UM, OF THOSE, UM, 60 EMPLOYEES, ARE THEY ALL, UM, YOUR EMPLOYEES OR DO YOU HAVE ANY, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT PROVIDE FINANCIAL SERVICES, MEDICAL SERVICES, UH, ARE THEY YOUR EMPLOYEES OR ARE THEY CONTRACTED? NO, THEY'RE ALL OUR EMPLOYEES.
WE HAVE A COUPLE CONTRACTORS, BUT IT'S JUST BECAUSE THAT WAS THE CHOICE THEY MADE AND HOW THEY WERE PAID.
UM, NO, BUT THEY'RE ALL OUR EMPLOYEES.
SO COUPLE, ONE QUESTION IS, HAVE YOU ALL EVER APPLIED FOR GRANT FUNDING FROM US IN THE PAST OR THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THAT? WE HAVE NOT.
WELL, I HOPE YOU'LL YOU'LL CONSIDER DOING THAT.
UM, AND, AND IT CORRECT ME, UH, I UNDERSTAND 900 ADDISON RESIDENTS SERVED AT PRESENT.
UH, ACTUALLY A LITTLE OVER 900 ADDISON RESIDENTS.
BUT WHEN YOU ADD IN CARROLLTON FARMER'S BRANCH, UM, WHICH I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE METROCREST CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, IT'S 3000.
SO WE'RE ALREADY IN THIS PAST YEAR, UH, WE SERVED A LITTLE CLOSER TO ABOUT 20,000 PEOPLE.
SO IF YOU TAKE 3000 OF THAT, IT'S A PRETTY BIG NUMBER, YOU KNOW, OF RESIDENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ASSIST.
I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SAY THAT, UM, WE WORK WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO BE ON THEIR OWN.
SO, UH, VERY CLEARLY WE DO NOT WORK WITH A HOMELESS POPULATION.
EVERYBODY WHO COMES TO US COMES TO US WITH AN APPOINTMENT AND A REASON TO BE THERE.
AND THEY'RE USUALLY THERE BECAUSE THEY ARE ONE PAYCHECK AWAY FROM, UH, BEING EVICTED FROM ONE OF THE APARTMENTS, POSSIBLY EVEN IN THIS COMMUNITY.
OR THEY, FOR WHATEVER REASON, ARE TAKING CARE OF AN AGING PARENT.
AND SO THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO WORK AS MUCH OR THEY HAVE A SMALL CHILD WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS COORDINATING ALL THESE DIFFERENT SERVICES TO HELP THEM STAY SELF-SUFFICIENT.
SO THAT'S REALLY KIND OF THE CRUX OF WHAT WE DO AT THE ORGANIZATION.
AND, AND JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL KNOW, WE ARE A NON-SECTARIAN, SECTARIAN ORGANIZATION AND WE HELP ANYONE IN NEED REGARDLESS OF AGE, ETHNICITY, GENDER, SOCIO SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS OR RELIGION.
I'VE BEEN WITH THE ORGANIZATION FOR 14 YEARS AND I'M PLANNING TO BE HERE FOR A WHILE.
AND CAN YOU SHARE WITH US, GIVE US A FEEL LIKE HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE, USERS SHOULD BE COMING IN ON A WEEKLY, A WEEKLY BASIS OR SOME OTHER BASIS? I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR PROFIT.
SO THREE DAYS A WEEK WHEN THE FOOD PANTRY IS IN OPERATION, YOU KNOW HOW SHE SHOWED, SHE SAID THAT THERE'S SEVEN IN 15 MINUTE INTER, INTER, YOU KNOW, UH, INTEGRALS.
BASICALLY THEY HAVE, UH, ONE LITTLE TINY PART OF THE PARKING LOT.
YOU'LL HAVE THESE FAMILIES, MAJORITY OF PEOPLE DRIVE TO US, ONLY 5% TAKE THE BUS.
WE STUDIED THAT, YOU KNOW, IN TRYING TO DECIDE IF WE NEEDED TO BE ON A BUS ROUTE.
UM, AND YOU JUST SEE THOSE CARS.
AND SO BASICALLY, OTHER THAN STAFF WHO ARE IN THE BUILDING AND PARKED, WE ALSO HAVE A THREE, TWO WORK REQUIREMENT.
SO STAFF CAN WORK FROM HOME TWO DAYS A WEEK AND VIRTUALLY.
SO THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC ON OUR PROPERTY IS NOT TREMENDOUS.
WHEN WE PUT IN THE MEDICAL CLINIC AND A DENTAL CLINIC, WHICH I HEAR IS NEEDED IN THE CITY FOR ADDISON RESIDENTS, UM, WE WILL HAVE A SIMILAR VOLUME.
IF YOU THINK OF A DOCTOR'S OFFICE, THERE'LL BE FOUR PHYSICIAN PROVIDERS AND ONE DENTIST.
SO WHATEVER IT IS IN A NORMAL OFFICE SITUATION.
UM, AND THOSE ARE ALL BY APPOINTMENT AS WELL.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY CHANGE IN ADDITION TO THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC THAT WE'D EXPERIENCE.
AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO COME CAN HAVE PRIVATE INSURANCE, THEY CAN HAVE MEDICAID, MEDICARE.
SO, UH, KIND OF ALONG THE LINES OF MARLON ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF IT, UM, HOW, HOW ARE YOU FUNDED? UH, A VARIETY OF WAYS.
WE HAVE VERY DIVERSE FUNDING STREAMS. WE'D LIKE TO NOT RELY ON SORT OF ONE SOURCE, UM, WE HAVE IN ANY GIVEN YEAR.
IT COULD BE THE BALANCE COULD BE A LITTLE MORE TOWARDS GRANTS.
UH, WE DO GET VICTIMS OF CRIME ACT FUNDING FROM THE STATE.
WE GOT ARPA FUNDS, CARES ACT FUNDS.
WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF PLANO TO PROVIDE SENIOR SERVICES.
UH, WE DON'T GET A LOT OF GRANTS, USUALLY CITY OUTSIDE OF, UH, PLANO BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO ALSO RAISE THE DOLLAR THAT WE NEED, WHICH IS ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION OF OUR $13 MILLION BUDGET EACH YEAR.
UM, SERVICE FEES FROM THE MEDICAL, DENTAL COUNSELING SERVICES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
OH, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE READY TO HIT THE BUTTON.
UH, I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU KATHY, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING
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HERE.UM, SO YOU, YOU DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE MEDICAL OR DENTAL AT YOUR CURRENT LOCATION.
UM, SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE COMING IN? ARE THOSE, UH, MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS THAT, WILL THEY BE EMPLOYEES? ARE THEY GONNA BE CONTRACT? MM-HMM.
UM, AT OUR CURRENT CLINIC AT 6 35 IN GREENVILLE, WE HAVE A CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER WHO'S A GRADUATE OF BROWN UNIVERSITY.
SO BASICALLY WE'RE ADDING A PHYSICIAN AS THEIR CASELOAD FILLS.
SO AT THIS LOCATION, THERE'LL BE A HUNDRED PERCENT EMPLOYEES OF OUR ORGANIZATION, AND THAT'LL INCLUDE THE MEDICAL ASSISTANTS AND EVERYBODY.
UM, THEY WOULD BE UNDER OUR UMBRELLA.
AND, AND TELL US, GIVE US AN IDEA WHAT YOUR, UH, SECURITY LOOKS LIKE.
IS IT GONNA BE DIFFERENT AT THE NEW LOCATION? WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, WITH WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE WORLD AND THE RISE IN ANTISEMITISM, WE HAVE OURSELVES ADDED SOME SECURITY.
WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY INCIDENCES.
AND IN THE 14 YEARS I'VE BEEN THERE, HAVEN'T HAD ANY INCIDENCES OF ANYTHING.
BECAUSE WE'RE A SOCIAL SERVICE AND HUMAN SERVICE ORGANIZATION, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY A TARGET, FORTUNATELY.
UH, BUT THIS PAST YEAR WE HAVE A US MARSHAL OR A DOWS POLICE OFFICER AT OUR FRONT DOOR.
UM, AND WE HAVE TWO PATROLLING SECURITY OFFICERS.
ONE IS ONLY THERE WHEN THE FOOD IN OPERATION AND THEN THAT SECURITY GUARD IS DONE FOR THEIR TERM.
THE IDEA BEHIND IT ISN'T BECAUSE WE HAVE PROBLEMS, IT'S TO PREVENT PROBLEMS. VERY GOOD.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.
UM, I PERSONALLY HAVE KNOWN OF THIS ORGANIZATION FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, AND, UH, THEY DO EXCELLENT WORK.
THEY, UM, THEY TAKE CARE OF A NEED THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS AND I THINK THEY'D BE A HUGE ASSET FOR ADDISON.
I, I HOPE THIS WORKS OUT FOR EVERYONE.
AND YEAH, FOR THOSE OF US THAT WERE ABLE TO GO OVER AND TOUR YOUR CURRENT FACILITY, I THINK, UH, MOST WERE, UH, DULY IMPRESSED BY, BY YOUR OPERATION AND VERY PROFESSIONAL SITUATION.
I JUST THINK HOW GREAT IT'LL LOOK
THAT WAS THE OLD MONTGOMERY WARD.
WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
WELL, WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT UP FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
SPEAKING OF, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS LISTED.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE TO, UM, SAY JUST FOR THE, THE PUBLIC FOR ADDISON.
UH, IT'S NOT LOST ON US THAT, UH, THE NONPROFIT DOESN'T PAY TAXES AND IT'S A $50,000 IMPACT TO THE TOWN.
HOWEVER, THE GOOD THAT THE ORGANIZATION PROVIDES IS FAR OUTWEIGHS THAT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, YOU'VE GOT 80 TO A HUNDRED EMPLOYEES THAT WILL BE DINING AND COMING TO ADDISON, ALONG WITH ALL THOSE OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY SERVE AND HELP THEM MOVE ALONG IN, IN THEIR TROUBLES.
AND I THINK THE ECO ECONOMIC IMPACT, UH, REALLY JUST THAT, THAT, UM, OUTWEIGHS THE, THE TAXES THAT WE'RE FOREGOING, LIKE, GO THERE.
MAYOR, ALL I'D LIKE TO SHARE IS THIS IS A GREAT ORGANIZATION.
I AM CONCERNED WITH, UH, HOW MANY PEOPLE MIGHT BE COMING IN FROM DALLAS, UM, INTO THIS, INTO THIS LOCATION.
UM, AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TAX IMPLICATIONS.
UH, WELL FOR ME, THEY, UH, IT IS A GREAT ORGANIZATION.
THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE A WONDERFUL REPUTATION IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO, UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING 'EM HERE IN ADDISON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ITEM SIX, OR YEAH, ITEM IS APPROVED.
[a. Present, discuss and consider action on a Resolution approving a Primary Depository Services Agreement with PlainsCapital Bank.]
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.ITEM FOR INDIVID INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
SIX A IS PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PRIMARY DEPOSITORY SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH PLAINS CAPITAL BANK.
MAYOR, I WILL RECUSE MYSELF FROM SIX A.
WE'LL GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO EXIT THE ROOM.
AMANDA TURNER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TONIGHT.
UH, TONIGHT FINANCE IS SEEKING COUNSEL'S APPROVAL ON A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE A DEPOSITORY SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH PLAIN'S CAPITAL BANK.
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WE'RE REQUIRED TO GO OUT FOR APPLICATIONS EVERY FIVE YEARS, AND THE TOWN'S CURRENT DEPOSITORY CONTRACT ENDS ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024.THEREFORE, THE TOWN WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF VALLEYVIEW CONSULTING, WE RECENTLY CONDUCTED THE SOLICITATION FOR APPLICATIONS.
UH, HERE WITH ME TIN IS TIM PENNON FROM VALLEYVIEW CONSULTING, AND HE'S PREPARED A PRESENTATION THAT WILL WALK THROUGH OUR APPLICATION PROCESS AND ANALYSIS OF THE APPLICATIONS WE RECEIVED AND OUR ULTIMATE SELECTION OF THE APPLICATION THAT WE FEEL IS THE MOST BENEFICIAL TO THE TOWN.
AND AFTER THE PRESENTATION, I'LL BE, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME MEMBERS FROM PLANS CAPITAL HERE IN CASE THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR ENGAGING VALLEY VIEW TO ASSIST THE TOWN WITH THE, THE BANK SOLICITATION PROCESS.
AND WE'VE REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH AMANDA AND STEVEN AND WILL.
THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT TEAM TO WORK WITH.
SO I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AS AMANDA MENTIONED, UM, THIS IS A REQUIREMENT OF CHAPTER 1 0 5 OF THE STATE, UH, STATUTES.
AND SO IT DOES REQUIRE CITIES TO GO OUT FOR SOLICITATION OF BANK DEPOSITORY, UH, AT LEAST EVERY FIVE YEARS.
AND SO THIS NEW INITIAL AGREEMENT WILL BEGIN OCTOBER 1ST AND THE WAY IT'S A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, BUT THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED IS A TWO YEAR CONTRACT WITH THREE ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR RENEWALS.
THE REASON FOR THAT, IT JUST KIND OF GIVES A NATURAL CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TOWN CONTINUES TO BE HAPPY WITH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THE BANK IS PROVIDING.
AND NORMALLY WHAT WE SEE WITH OUR CLIENTS, THEY NORMALLY DO EXTEND FOR THE FULL FIVE YEAR PERIODS, BUT WE DO OCCASIONALLY HAVE CLIENTS THAT OPT NOT TO RENEW AND TO GO BACK OUT FOR, FOR THE, THROUGH THE SOLICITATION PROCESS.
SO AGAIN, I MENTIONED CHAPTER 1 0 5, THAT'S KIND OF THE MAIN GOVERNING CODE IN THIS.
UH, OTHER, UH, CODES THAT IMP COME INTO PLAY ARE THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST ACT, PUBLIC FUND INVESTMENT ACT, AND THE PUBLIC FUNDS COLLATERAL ACT.
SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THE BANKS THAT ARE RESPONDING ALL ARE ADHERING TO THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE WENT THROUGH ON THE PROJECT.
SO THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS LOOKED AT THE TOWN'S HISTORICAL USAGE OF SERVICES.
AND WE ALSO USE THIS KIND OF LIKE A, AN ANNUAL CHECKUP.
WHEN YOU GO GET YOUR PHYSICAL, IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE SERVICES THE TOWN IS USING, AND BANKS OFTEN ADD NEW SERVICES.
SO IT'S A CHANCE TO SAY, HEY, ARE THERE ANY BANK SERVICES THAT WOULD HELP THE TOWN THAT YOU'RE NOT CURRENTLY USING? SO WE INCORPORATED THAT INTO THE RFA.
UH, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF ITEM TWO THERE.
ITEM THREE, UM, IF YOU HAD STAYED JUST WITH THE BANKS WITHIN THE TOWN LIMITS OF ADDISON, THERE WOULD'VE BEEN SIX BANKS THAT WOULD'VE BEEN ELIGIBLE TO RESPOND.
SO THE, THE COUNCIL TOOK THE STEP, WHICH CHAPTER 1 0 5 PROVIDES FOR, TO EXPAND THAT BOUNDARY.
AND WE WENT FIVE MILES OUTSIDE OF, UH, A FIVE MILE RADIUS OF CITY HALL.
AND BY DOING THAT, WE
AND WE WERE ABLE TO ESTABLISH CONTACTS WITH 17 OF THOSE BANKS.
SO CHAPTER 1 0 5 JUST REQUIRES THAT YOU POST A NOTICE, A LEGAL NOTICE IN A LOCAL PAPER.
BUT WE TRY TO BE MUCH MORE PROACTIVE ON THAT.
WE REACH OUT TO THE BANKS, ESTABLISH THE CONTACTS WITH THOSE BANKS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO REACH 17 OF THEM.
AND THEN WE DRAFTED THE RFA, UH, FOR THE BANKS TO USE AND RESPOND.
AND, UH, THE, THE BANK, OR WE DID, UH, POST THE ADVERTISEMENT AS REQUIRED, AND THEN IT WAS POSTED ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, THE RFA, AND THEN IT WAS EMAILED TO THOSE BANKS AS WELL TO NOTIFY THEM STEP EIGHT, AS WE HELD A NON-MANDATORY PRE-APPLICATION ZOOM CALL.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE INVITE THE BANKS TO COME IN.
WE GO OVER, UH, THE RFA, WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, AND IT PROVIDES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE.
IT ALSO HELPS THE TOWN GET A SENSE OF HOW MANY BANKS ARE INTERESTED IN POTENTIALLY BEING THE BANK FOR THE TOWN.
SO FOR THE CALL, WE REALLY HAD A FAIRLY GOOD TURNOUT.
WE HAD SEVEN BANKS, UH, COME TO THAT CALL.
AND HERE THOSE BANKS ARE LISTED HERE.
UH, SO THAT KINDA GIVES YOU A GOOD IDEA OF THE, THE NUM THE, THE NAMES OF THE BANKS THAT WERE RESPONDING.
AND THEN WE ENDED UP RECEIVING PROPOSALS FROM FOUR OF THOSE BANKS OR APPLICATIONS.
SO, UH, IT WAS FROST BANK, WHO'S THE CURRENT INCUMBENT BANK FOR THE TOWN, AND THEN INWOOD, NATIONAL PLAINS CAPITAL AND TEXAS REGIONAL.
AND SO WE LOOK AT A NUMBER OF CRITERIA IN DETERMINING WHAT IS THE BEST FIT FOR THE BANK.
THE, THE TERM THAT CHAPTER 1 0 5 USES IS WHAT'S MOST ADVANTAGEOUS.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE LOW COST PROVIDER THAT WINS BECAUSE SOMETIMES THAT LOW COST PROVIDER MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OR THE SERVICES THAT THE TOWN NEEDS.
SO IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE KIND OF LOOK AT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING FOR.
AND THIS IS KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS THOSE ELEMENTS, UH, THAT THE TOWN IS LOOKING AT AND THAT WE LOOKED AT IN DOING THE EVALUATION.
SO THE NEXT THING THAT WE DO IS TO, TO LOOK AT A FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.
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EACH BANK OFFER TO THE TOWN? WHAT'S THE FINANCIAL BENEFIT? UH, WHEN YOU FACTOR IN FEES, UH, EARNINGS, CREDIT RATES, WHICH ARE USED TO OFFSET BANK FEES AND INTEREST RATES THAT ARE OFFERED.SO THE BALANCE OR THE, THE BALANCE THAT THE TOWN HAS MAINTAINED AT FROST FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS HAS BEEN A LITTLE UNDER FIVE AND A HALF MILLION.
SO WE USED THAT FIGURE TO DO OUR CALCULATIONS BECAUSE THAT WAS PRETTY REPRESENTATIVE OF WHERE THE CITY OR WHERE THE TOWN HAS MAINTAINED BALANCES.
UH, AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BANKS THAT RESPONDED, UH, AS FAR AS THE FEES.
SO FROST, THE INCUMBENT BANK WAS QUITE A BIT HIGHER THAN THE OTHER THREE RESPONSES.
UH, YOU CAN ALSO SEE A, A PRETTY WIDE RANGE ON THE EARNINGS CREDIT RATE.
AND AGAIN, THE EARNINGS CREDIT IS A SOFT DOLLAR CREDIT.
THE, THE TOWN DOESN'T RECEIVE THAT MONEY, BUT IT DOES GO TO OFFSET THOSE FEES SO THAT THE BANK DOESN'T, OR THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE ANY OUT OF POCKET FEES.
UM, THE NEXT LINE IS THE, UH, THE INTEREST RATE OFFERED.
SO AGAIN, A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE INCUMBENT BANK OF FROST BANK, UH, AND THEN THE OTHER THREE RESPONSES, MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE RATES FOR THE TOWN.
AND ON FIVE AND A HALF MILLION, THAT MAKES A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.
UM, THEN THE NEXT LINE IS THE BASIS FOR THE INTEREST RATE.
UM, AND SO TYPICALLY WE SEE ONE OF TWO THINGS THERE.
ONE, IT'S IT'S BANK DETERMINED, WHICH IS WHAT FROST BANKS.
AND THEY JUST, AS IT INDICATES, IT'S THE RATE THAT THE BANK PAYS IS WHATEVER THEY DECIDE TO PAY.
UH, BUT THE OTHER THREE BANKS REALLY GAVE THE MORE ATTRACTIVE OPTION THAT WE LIKE TO SEE, WHICH IS AN INDEXED RATE.
SO THAT MEANS WHATEVER THE MARKET DOES, THE BANK IS GONNA TRACK WITH THAT.
UM, AND SO THAT'S DEFINITELY MORE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE TOWN.
SO FACTORING ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN, UM, WE KIND OF CAME UP WITH A BOTTOM LINE.
AND SO, UM, THAT REALLY GAVE US KIND OF OUR, OUR TOP TWO, UH, WHICH WERE PLAINS CAPITAL AND INWOOD AND TEXAS REGIONAL HAD A VERY ATTRACTIVE OFFER AS WELL.
BUT THERE WERE SOME THINGS, UH, ABOUT THE INWOOD AND PLAINS CAPITAL THAT WERE A LITTLE MORE ATTRACTIVE, AND PLUS FINANCIALLY THEY WERE THE MORE, UH, ATTRACTIVE OFFERS.
SO THOSE TWO BA WELL, LEMME GO INTO FULL FIVE YEAR TWO, I'LL SHOW YOU THAT AS WELL.
SO JUST KIND OF CARRYING IT OUT OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, IT JUST KIND OF EXTENDED, UH, THE IMPACT OF THOSE RATES.
AND SO AGAIN, INWOOD BANK AND PLAINS CAPITAL DID COME UP AS THE TWO HIGHEST EARNING BANKS BASED ON THE RATES THAT THEY WERE OFFERING.
SO THE NEXT STEP WAS TO BRING IN, UH, PLAINS CAPITAL AND INWOOD BANK.
AND SO AMANDA AND STEVEN AND WILL, AND I THINK MAYBE SOME OTHERS TEAM MEMBERS AS WELL CAME INTO THOSE INTERVIEWS.
THEY MET WITH THE BANKERS AND WE HAD THE BANKS GO THROUGH THEIR ONLINE PLATFORM BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY AREAS WHERE THIS TOWN INTERFACES WITH THE BANK.
AND SO THAT'S A REALLY CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THAT SERVICE THAT'S PROVIDED.
SO, AND, AND ALSO JUST MEETING THE BANKERS IS HELPFUL TOO, GETTING A FEEL FOR, UM, JUST KIND OF THEIR RESPONSIVENESS AND HOW THEY ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
UM, THERE WAS ONE ANOTHER DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INWOOD BANK AND PLAINS CAPITAL, AND THAT WAS A COUPLE OF SERVICES THAT PLAINS CAPITAL OFFERS THAT ARE NOT OFFERED BY INWOOD BANK, AND THAT'S ELECTRONIC LOCKBOX AND INTEGRATED DISBURSEMENT SERVICES.
AND OF THOSE TWO, PROBABLY THE ONE THAT HAS THE GREATEST POTENTIAL IMPACT TO THE CITIZENS OF ADDISON IS THE ELECTRONIC LOCKBOX.
SO IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE, I'M SURE ALL OF YOU HAVE BANK ACCOUNTS, AND SO WHOEVER YOU BANK WITH, YOU'VE GOT ONLINE BILL PAYMENTS WHERE YOU KIND OF GO IN, YOU SAY, HEY, I WANNA PAY MY ADDISON WATER BILL.
AND SO THEY TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF YOUR ACCOUNT, THE BANK MAILS A CHECK TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON WITHOUT THE THE COUPON.
AND SO ON THE UTILITY BILLING SIDE, THE CHALLENGE IS NOW THEY'RE GETTING A CHECK FROM WHOEVER HAS SENT IT, BUT THERE'S NO COUPON.
WE'RE HAVING TO LOOK UP, OKAY, WHO'S, WHAT'S TIM'S ACCOUNT NUMBER AND, AND, AND, AND DO THAT MANUAL POSTING.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE SEE THAT IMPACTS CLIENTS IS IT COMES OUT OF MY ACCOUNT THE DAY I HIT SIN.
SO I'M THINKING THE TOWN OF ADDISON HAS MY MONEY.
IN REALITY, NO, THEY'RE GONNA GET, THE TOWN'S GONNA GET IT ABOUT A WEEK LATER.
AND IF I'M PROCRASTINATING AND PUTTING UP TO THE END, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, I GOT IT IN THE DAY BEFORE IT WAS DUE.
NO, IT WAS, IT WAS ACTUALLY LATER.
AND SO IT'S LIKE, THEN I'M MAD, I'M CALLING UTILITY BILLING.
WHY DID I GET A LATE FEE? IT CAME OUTTA MY ACCOUNT, YOU'VE GOT MY MONEY.
SO WHEN IT CONVERTS IT FROM THAT PAPER CHECK INTO AN ELECTRONIC PAYMENT THAT THE TOWN GETS THE NEXT DAY, THE OTHER REALLY NICE THING ABOUT IT IS IT CREATES AN ACCOUNTS PAYABLE FILE THAT THE UTILITY BILLING GROUP CAN JUST UPLOAD INTO ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE AND IT MATCHES THOSE AUTOMATICALLY.
SO IT LITERALLY SAVES HOURS OF TIME OF MANUALLY POSTING THOSE PAYMENTS.
SO THAT WAS AN EXCITING ADDITION.
PLAINS CAPITAL DOES OFFER THAT.
AND SO WE WERE EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THE TOWN AS A POTENTIAL BENEFIT.
SO BASED ON THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS, THE DEMONSTRATION THAT WENT REALLY WELL, THE ACCESS TO THE ELECTRONIC LOCKBOX AND INTEGRATED DISBURSEMENT SERVICES, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVE A CONTRACT WITH PLAINS CAPITAL BANK FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
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THAT IS ABOUT, AS THE CONSULTANTS, WE CONCUR WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION.AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I'M SURE AMANDA WILL AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR TIM OR AMANDA? ALRIGHT.
IS THERE A MOTION? YEAH, ONE COVERED.
THE RATES, THEY'RE ON THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHICH SLIDE IT WAS, BUT THAT ONE.
OH, THAT ONE IS THERE, ARE THEY, THEY'RE GUARANTEED FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME OR THEY CAN GO UP AND DOWN TOMORROW? GOOD QUESTION.
SO THE INDEX IS GUARANTEED, BUT NOT THE RATES.
SO THE RATES ARE GONNA CHANGE WITH THE INDEX.
IF IF RATES GO HIGHER, THEY'RE GONNA GO HIGHER.
IF RATES GO LOWER, THEY ARE GONNA GO LOWER.
NOT A, IT'S NOT A, NOT A FIXED RATE, BUT INDEXED IS THE EARNINGS CREDIT RATE FIXED? I BELIEVE, LET'S SEE.
I BELIEVE IT IS FOR PLAINS CAPITAL.
SO HOW LONG WERE WE, THIS MAY BE A, A QUESTION FOR FINANCE FOR STEVEN OR FOR AMANDA.
UH, HOW LONG WERE, WERE WE WITH FROST? 12 YEARS? I BELIEVE IT'S AROUND 12 YEARS.
AND DO WE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE EVALUATE THIS ANNUALLY AFTER THE FIRST TWO YEARS.
AFTER THE INITIAL TWO YEAR PERIOD RUNS OUT, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, DECIDE IF WE WANT TO RENEW.
SO I KNOW INTEREST RATES HAVE, HAVE WENT UP OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, BUT IS IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE'VE LEFT A LOT OF THIS MONEY ON THE TABLE BY NOT DOING THIS EVALUATION? I GUESS IT'S, I GUESS IT'S POSSIBLE.
UM, UH, IS THIS SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT ANNUAL, BUT SOME SORT OF CHECKPOINT, UM, OR AT LEAST REPORTED TO COUNCIL ANNUALLY? I, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE REALLY SHARP IN FINANCE AND I, I FIGURE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.
I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE QUESTION.
UM, WE COULD DO AN ANALYSIS EVERY YEAR.
UM, THE CHANGING BANKS FOR AN INSTITUTION IN ITSELF IS A VERY TIMELY OR TIME, YOU KNOW, EXHAUSTIVE AND EXPENSIVE PROCESS.
SO EVEN, YOU KNOW, I AS FINANCE, WE WOULD PROBABLY NOT RECOMMEND EVEN IF THERE WAS A SLIGHT BENEFIT TO SWITCHING BANKS, YOU KNOW, THAT QUICKLY.
BUT, UM, WE COULD DO IT MORE OFTEN.
I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS MAYBE A REPORT, A REVIEW OF WHAT WE, WHAT WHAT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR WOULD BE, UH, A POSSIBILITY THAT COULD BE A FUTURE TOPIC.
IF WE CHANGED EVERY YEAR, WE'D HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE SURE STEVEN STAYS AROUND
I WOULDN'T WANT TO CHANGE EVERY YEAR.
I MEAN, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.
I THINK THEY'RE REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS.
AND I, I DO THINK IT'S TRUE PAST FEW YEARS, UP UNTIL OBVIOUSLY THE MOST RECENT 18 MONTHS, 24 MONTHS, THE RATES WERE JUST SO LOW THAT WE WEREN'T MISSING OUT ON THAT AMOUNT.
BUT I'M CERTAIN, I'M SURE WE WERE MISSING OUT ON SOMETHING, WHICH IS WHY IT'S, IT'S GOOD THAT WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, BUT IT IS A PROCESS, VERY DETAILED PROCESS APPARENTLY.
SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING ALL THAT EFFORT IN.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? IS THERE A MOTION HERE? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
THANK YOU DARREN, FOR THE SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL CALL MR. D FRANCISCO BACK IN THE ROOM.
[b. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving an agreement with TSK Architects for the Addison Conference Centre Renovation Project and authorizing the City Manager to sign the agreement in an amount not to exceed $153,000. ]
ON IN, CHRIS.AND WHILE HE'S COMING IN, I'LL READ ITEM NUMBER SIX B PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH TSK ARCHITECTS FOR THE ADDISON CONFERENCE CENTER RENOVATION PROJECT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $153,000.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, BILL HAWLEY, DIRECTOR OF GENERAL SERVICES.
AND THIS IS, UH, AS THE MAYOR SAID, A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH TSK RELATED TO THE ADDISON CONFERENCE CENTER RENOVATION PROJECT.
AS YOU'LL RECALL, BACK ON MAY 28TH, STAFF BROUGHT A PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL REGARDING RENOVATION OF THIS FACILITY.
THAT WAS BASED ON PREVIOUS STUDIES AND PREVIOUS COUNCIL DIRECTIONS.
COUNCIL'S 24 25, UH, STRATEGIC PLANNING STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES, WHICH ARE LISTED THERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE, OF THE SCREEN.
OUR CURRENT FACILITY CONDITIONS AND REPAIRS THAT ARE NEEDED, OUR OPERATIONAL CURRENT AND FUTURE STAFFING PROJECTIONS, THE NEED FOR SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS, AND JUST OBVIOUSLY COST EFFICIENCIES.
THE DIAGRAM THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PROPOSED RENOVATION, WHICH WILL GO INTO DETAIL KIND OF SLIDE BY SLIDE.
SO THE FIRST IS ADDING SECURITY AND ACCESS CONTROLS.
THAT'S A LOT OF ARROWS, BUT WE
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NEED A LOT OF SECURITY ON THIS BUILDING THAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE.UH, BUT GENERALLY ALL OF THE EXTERIOR DOORS WILL BE MODIFIED INTO SUCH A WAY THAT THEY'LL HAVE, UM, CARD READERS WHERE EMPLOYEES CAN GET IN AND THE PUBLIC WILL BE FUNNELED TOWARDS THE EAST, UH, DOORS TO COME INTO THE PUBLIC SPACES.
THOSE DOORS WILL BE, UH, REDONE TO BE MORE HUMAN SCALE.
CURRENTLY THEY WERE, THEY'RE GIGANTIC.
THEY'RE NOT REALLY A DA COMPLIANT, THEY'RE NOT EASY TO OPEN, THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO LOCK AND TO SECURE.
SO WE KEEPING THE LOOK, UH, OF THIS WONDERFUL BUILDING, WE WILL, WE WILL MODIFY THAT, UH, BUT MAKE THAT MORE SECURE.
THE ADDITIONAL BENEFIT OF THAT IS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO THEN, UH, PUT UP SOME INTERIOR PARTITIONS AND SECURITY DOORS, CREATING A PUBLIC SECTION AND THEN A WORK OFFICE SECTION FOR STAFF.
SO REGARDING THIS ROOM, UH, THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, THE, THE WALL ON THE WEST SIDE WILL BECOME PERMANENT.
THERE WILL BE SOME DOORS THAT OPEN INTO, UM, THE NEW EXECUTIVE WORK SESSION ROOM, WHICH WILL BE LOCATED RIGHT THERE.
AND ACCESS FOR THE PUBLIC THROUGH THIS ROOM OR THROUGH THAT BACK HALLWAY IF THIS ROOM IS IN, UH, BEING OCCUPIED AT THE SAME TIME.
UH, AND THEN BY STAFF FROM THE BACK.
AND AGAIN, THAT'LL BE A SECURE, UH, DOORWAY.
THAT'S STAFF CAN COME IN, THE PUBLIC CAN LEAVE IN AN EMERGENCY THROUGH THOSE DOORS, UH, BACK TO THAT BACK HALLWAY AND HAVE TWO WAYS OUT OF THE BUILDING.
BUT THAT'LL HELP US SECURE AGAIN, THE, THE TWO SEPARATE PARTS OF THE BUILDING.
WE'LL DO AN ACOUSTICAL STUDY, WHICH I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE NOTICED WITH CINDER BLOCK WALLS AND THE WOODEN CEILING.
THE ACOUSTICS IN THESE ROOMS ARE, ARE CHALLENGING.
SO, UH, WE'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THAT AND MAKE THE SOUND QUALITY BETTER IN THESE ROOMS. AND, UH, UM, THE SPACE WILL BE LARGELY THE, THE SAME LAYOUT THAT YOU HAVE NOW.
WE'LL LOSE THE DOORS AT THE BACK, UH, BUT WE'LL GAIN SOME DOORS, UH, TO EXIT, UH, OVER IN THIS CORNER.
SO THE, THE NEW EXECUTIVE WORKSPACE, AGAIN, WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE NOW.
THE, THE LARGE TABLE, THE PUBLIC SEATING, THE DIFFERENCE WILL JUST BE WHERE IT'S NOW CURRENTLY A RECTANGLE AND STAFF SITS OVER TO ONE SIDE.
STAFF WOULD BE BEHIND AND THAT'LL AFFORD US MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO RECONFIGURE THAT ROOM IF THE TOWN IS USING IT FOR, FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES, DIFFERENT MEETINGS, ET CETERA.
UH, AND THEN ALL THE GREAT TECHNOLOGY, UH, WILL BE IN THAT ROOM AS WELL.
THERE WILL BE EIGHT OFFICES ALONG THE, THE SOUTH LOBBY.
THESE WILL BE, UH, FANTASTIC WORKSPACES LOOKING OUT OVER THE PARK.
WE'RE GONNA PRESERVE, UH, THE WOODEN CEILINGS, THE EXPOSED, UH, BEAMS, UH, AND TRY TO INCORPORATE AND ALLOW ALL THAT LIGHT TO COME THROUGH, KEEP THE VIEWS AND, UH, MAKE THAT A VERY, UH, A VERY NICE WORKSPACE.
AND THERE'LL BE A CORRIDOR, UH, WHERE CURRENTLY ALONG THIS, THIS WALL WHERE THE ART IS AND, UH, THAT SERVICES THOSE BUILDINGS, AND THEN THE INTERIOR SPACES OF THE BUILDING, THAT LEAVES US AN L-SHAPE FOR APPROXIMATELY 20 OTHER WORKSTATIONS.
WE'RE GONNA KEEP THAT, UH, I THINK LIKE WHAT YOU SEE AT THE AIRPORT WHERE THERE'S SOME BULLPEN AREAS AND ALONG SOME OF THE PERIMETERS YOU HAVE OFFICE SPACE THAT'S MORE PRIVATE FOR, FOR DIRECTORS AND OR PRIVATE MEETINGS THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE IN THERE.
BUT A VERY OPEN CONCEPT TO, TO AGAIN, PRESERVE AND KEEP THE, THE NATURE OF THIS BUILDING.
AND THEN FINALLY, ON THE EAST SIDE, AGAIN, THAT'S THE VERY PUBLIC SPACE.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT LARGE LOBBY.
VOTING CAN BE OUT THERE, OTHER RECEPTIONS AND EVENTS CAN BE OUT THERE.
WE'LL CONVERT THE SPACE THAT IS CURRENTLY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTO A CONFERENCE ROOM, AND THAT CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND OR FOR USE FOR THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE IN THIS BUILDING, OR OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO COME OVER AND, AND USE THAT SPACE.
AND AGAIN, THOSE WILL BE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE SECURED DOORS, SO WE WON'T HAVE THE, THE CHANCE OF THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF WANDERING INTO THE MORE PRIVATE PARTS OF THE BUILDING.
BUT THEY'LL STILL HAVE READY ACCESS TO THE RESTROOMS, UH, AND THE BEAUTIFUL SPACE ON THE EAST SIDE.
SO, UH, TSK ARCHITECTS WAS SELECTED BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT OF, OF PRIOR WORK ON, ON THIS FACILITY AND SEVERAL OTHER FACILITIES WITH THE TOWN.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO, TO ACTUALLY SAVE A, A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE THE ARCHITECT WAS VERY F FAMILIAR WITH THIS, WHERE TYPICALLY YOU PAY ABOUT 10 TO 12% FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL FEES ON A $2 MILLION PROJECT AT 1 53 WE'RE ABOUT 7.5%.
AND THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE FAMILIARITY WITH THE, THE TEAM THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ON THIS, THAT THEY ALREADY HAD DATA FILES AND STUFF ON THESE BUILDINGS.
SO THEY WERE ABLE TO, UM, AFFORD US A VERY COMPETITIVE PRICE.
AND SOMEBODY THAT'S ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH THE BUILDING, THE SCOPE OF THEIR WORK WILL BE, UH, BEYOND THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN.
DO THE, DO THE FULL DESIGN, DO THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, WORK WITH US DURING PERMITTING AND BIDDING, AND THEN, UH, DURING CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATIONS, THEY'LL BE ON SITE TO MAKE SURE IT'S BEING BUILT TO SPAC.
AND IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IN THE, IN THE PLANS, AGAIN, 153 NOT TO EXCEED ON A $2 MILLION PROJECT.
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THE 1 53 IS IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND, AND THE 2 MILLION IS INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED FY 25 BUDGET.SO NEXT STEPS WE WILL, IF, IF APPROVED, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THE DESIGN.
UH, WE WILL GO OUT TO BID, UH, ONCE THE DESIGN HAS PROGRESSED FAR ENOUGH, UH, TO DO CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK, WE'LL GO OUT TO BID.
WE'VE ALREADY STARTED EVALUATING THOSE DOCUMENTS AND PREPPING FOR THAT, FOR THAT PHASE, SO WE CAN KEEP THIS PROJECT MOVING.
UM, SELECTIVE, UM, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK THAT'S ANTICIPATED TO OCCUR IN THE FALL.
ONCE WE HAVE THOSE BIDS RECEIVED, THAT OBVIOUSLY BASED ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF, OF IN EXCESS OF A MILLION DOLLARS, WE'LL OBVIOUSLY COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
YOU'LL GET TO SEE ALL THAT, SEE WHO THAT CONTRACTOR IS, SEE WHAT THEIR BID IS.
WE'LL GO THROUGH ALL THAT WITH YOU.
WE'LL ALSO HAVE A BETTER DEFINED PROJECT SCHEDULE AT THAT POINT.
BUT JUST OVERALL, WE'RE HOPING TO BE COMPLETED WITH THIS BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR.
BUT THERE'S A FEW WILD CARDS IN THERE.
IF, IF ECONOMIC CHANGES OR BIDDERS AND AND SUCH THAT, UH, WE ARE MAY ALLOW US TO MOVE IT UP, OR IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT FORTUNATELY, MOST OF THE WORK IS INTERIOR PARTITIONS.
IT'S NOT STRUCTURAL, IT'S NOT MECHANICAL.
UH, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY CONSTRUCTION FINISH OUT.
WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE, THE FFF AND E, THE FURNITURE FIXTURE AND EQUIPMENT IN WITH, UH, THE CMAR PART OR THE ARCHITECTURAL, BECAUSE THEY JUST ADD THEIR MARKUP TO THOSE.
SO WE'LL MANAGE THAT PORTION IN-HOUSE AND THEN OCCUPY.
SO HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
BILL, ANY QUESTIONS? NANCY? I HAVE JUST, I HAVE JUST A QUICK ONE AND, AND I'LL ADMIT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF MY AREA, BUT, UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S NOT MUCH MECHANICAL.
UM, WHAT ABOUT, AND I AGREE TOTALLY THAT THOSE VIEWS OUT THIS WINDOW FOR THOSE OFFICES WILL BE GREAT.
UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF GLASS.
UM, ARE THERE ANY ISSUES FOR HVAC WITH THOSE CHANGES OUT THERE? SO, UH, YES.
UH, PART OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED WITH THE ARCHITECT IS THERE, THERE WILL BE A COATING PUT ON THOSE WINDOWS THAT, THAT HELPS REPEL THE HEAT AND PROTECT THAT, BECAUSE THAT LOBBY BECOMES A GREENHOUSE AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR WHEN THE SUN'S AT CERTAIN ANGLES.
THE, THE HVAC, UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A CHASE WAY THAT THAT RUNS ALONG THAT HALLWAY THAT, THAT PROVIDES, UH, FRESH AIR, UH, CONDITIONED AIR RIGHT INTO THOSE SPACES.
SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS, THAT THAT IS ALL CALCULATED OUT SO THAT THE FOLKS IN THOSE OFFICES AREN'T EXPERIENCING, UH, EITHER EXCESSIVE HEAT OR IN THE WINTER COLD FROM THOSE WINDOWS.
SO THOSE OFFICES, WE, UM, THE WALLS FLOOR TO CEILING.
SO IN THAT SPACE WHERE THE CEILING IS, IS LOWER, UH, YES.
SO IF, IF YOU WALK OUT THERE, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT ANYTIME.
UM, WHERE THE, WHERE THE METAL BEAMS ARE, THOSE WILL BE WHERE THE PARTITION WALL PARTITIONS ARE BETWEEN THE OFFICES ARE.
BUT WE'LL PRESERVE THE GLASS AND THEN WE'LL TRY TO LET THE VIEWS AND THE LIGHT COME THROUGH WHILE PROVIDING THE FOLKS IN THE OFFICE'S PRIVACY THAT THEY NEED.
I WOULD JUST ADD, BECAUSE I CERTAINLY WANT TO TAKE EVERYONE UP ON THE OFFER TO GO KIND OF WALK AROUND AND LOOK AT IT, BECAUSE I WAS REALLY SURPRISED IT WAS ONLY $2 MILLION EVEN WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MONTHS AND MONTHS AGO.
AND I THINK AS WE WALKED AROUND AND SAW THAT WE'RE REALLY USING THE BONES OF THE BUILDING AND JUST PUTTING ON THESE, IT JUST REALLY WORKS OUT WELL FOR THIS DESIGN.
AND THAT'S WHY THE COST IS NOT AS HIGH AS KIND OF WE ANTICIPATED.
SO IT, IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO WALK AROUND AND SEE THAT.
UM, SO IS, WAS THIS PRESENTATION IN OUR AGENDA PACKET? I BELIEVE IT WAS ADDED, IT WAS ADDED THIS MORNING TO THE AMENDMENT.
WE, WE WANTED, WE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL, UH, THE, THE LAYOUTS AND THE, THE ZOOMING IN ALL THE DIFFERENT ROOMS FROM THE FIRST PRESENTATION, SO THAT Y'ALL WOULD HAVE AND SEE A, A, A BETTER LOOK AT WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS PROPOSED.
I, I'M LOOKING IN THE AGENDA PACKET AND I, I DIDN'T SEE IT.
SO, UM, THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION FOR ME TO KIND OF TAKE IN REAL QUICK.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO, UH, OBVIOUSLY TO REDEVELOPING THIS, BUT, UH, DAVID, I I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE YOU UP ON THE, UH, TO TRY TO GET A BETTER FEEL FOR, FOR WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, CHRIS, UH, JUST ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, I MISSED THAT, THAT PRESENTATION, BUT THE ONLY QUESTION I'VE GOT IS, SO THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THIS BUILDING WAS TO ALLOW SOME OF OUR HOTELS TO, UM, HAVE ADDITIONAL SPACE IF THEY WANTED TO HOST A CONFERENCE OR BOOK A BUNCH OF ROOMS AND HAVE A PLACE FOR THEIR, YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR HOTEL GUESTS TO GO TO DO SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, LARGE EVENT.
WOULD THERE STILL BE SPACE IN HERE TO DO THAT? OR IS THAT, IS THAT JUST NOT GONNA BE A POSSIBILITY ANYMORE? SO, OR I, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.
I SEE DAVID MOVING TOWARDS THE MIC,
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SO I'LL LET HIM, ALL RIGHT.I MEAN, I, I WOULD SAY THAT'S NOT HOW WE'RE USING THIS SPACE NOW, YOU KNOW, AND SO I THINK IT WOULD STILL BE, THIS ROOM COULD STILL BE USED FOR, AND THE WAY, I GUESS TO STEP BACK A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS SAYING IF A HOA WANTS TO USE THE FACILITY, IF A NONPROFIT, IF ONE, IF THEY WANT TO COME IN AND USE IT, IS WE CAN STILL DO THAT.
I THINK THE ONE PIECE, AND AS WE TALK MORE ABOUT THIS ROOM, IT'LL BE FUNCTIONAL IN THAT SENSE, BUT I DON'T SEE US GOING BACK TO USING IT AS A CONFERENCE CENTER AS IT WAS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
IT, I, AND I KNOW THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN, BUT WOULD WE CONSIDER ALLOWING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A HOTEL TO USE THE THEATER FOR AN EVENT LIKE THAT? I JUST, UM, JUST A THOUGHT TO ALLOW THOSE GUYS TO BOOK ROOMS. I THINK THAT'S, THAT.
AND, AND BILL CERTAINLY JUMP IN WITH ANY OTHER THOUGHTS YOU HAVE AS I I THINK THE RECONFIGURING OF THE SPACE WILL MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO, TO OPEN THAT UP.
THIS FACILITY USED TO BE STAFFED WITH EIGHT PEOPLE, IT'S NOW A 0.5.
SO IF WE WERE TO TRY TO OPEN IT UP YOUR STAFFING BACK UP.
IT'S, SO, IT IS A LOT OF COST BENEFITS THAT CO PRESS CHANGE THE ENVIRONMENT WE NEEDED OFFICE SPACE, THIS, THIS MADE PERFECT SENSE.
SO YEAH, AND I, AND I THINK IT DOES TOO.
UH, BUT I THINK THAT, I MEAN, THE THEATER'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE WANNA ACTIVATE THAT BUILDING MORE AND USE IT FOR THOSE THINGS.
AND I THINK WE'VE SEEN JUST WITH THE SPECIAL EVENTS, THE DIFFERENT WAYS IT CAN BE CONFIGURED TO USE IT.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THOUGHT.
AND CHRIS, I THINK THAT GOAL TO HAVE, HAVE THIS AVAILABLE FOR THE HOTELS, IT NEVER REALLY TOOK OFF LIKE PEOPLE HAD HOPED IT WOULD.
SO, MARLON AND, AND BILL, I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY.
SO THIS PARTITION WOULD, WOULD GO AWAY AND IT'D BE A SOLID WALL? YES, SIR.
IT'D BE, IT'D BE PERMANENT WITH A SET OF DOORS THAT GO INTO A WORK SESSION ROOM, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE NOW.
IT'S JUST LOCATED HERE ADJACENT TO THIS ROOM.
AND A WORK SESSION ROOM, UH, HOW BIG WOULD THAT BE? OR WOULD THAT BE LIKE A, A BIG USABLE SPACE OR JUST A TINY SPACE FOR LIKE A CONFERENCE ROOM OR IT, IT IS, UH, THE SAME AS THE CURRENT SPACE.
IT'S WHERE THIS IS CURRENTLY RECTANGULAR, IT'S, IT'S NOW MORE OF A SQUARE.
IT'S ESSENTIALLY 60% OF THIS WALL AND THE DEPTH OF THE ROOM NEXT DOOR, IF THAT, UH, AGAIN, IT MAY BE WALKING.
IT HELPS YOU PUT THOSE IN YOUR MIND, UH, AS, AS TO WHAT KIND OF SPACE THAT WILL BE THERE, THERE WILL BE MORE USABLE SPACE IN THAT ROOM THAN IN YOUR CURRENT SPACE FOR THE WORK SESSION.
HEY, BILL, WHILE THE, WHILE THE PROJECT IS GOING ON, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT US, US USING THIS ROOM AND THE OFFICE STAFF THAT'S ALREADY HERE? YES, SIR.
SO WE, WE WILL NEED TO BE, WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO COMPRESS THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THIS FACILITY IS NOT USABLE FOR COUNCIL PLANNING AND ZONING AND, AND OTHER EVENTS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE HOUSED HERE NOW, WHICH WILL NEED TO BE RELOCATED.
WE'LL HAVE A BETTER SCHEDULE ON THAT ONCE WE KNOW WHO THE CMAR IS.
BUT WE, UH, MAINTAINED THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO USE TOWN HALL.
UH, I THINK IT NEEDS TO, TO REATTACH SOME CAMERAS AND THINGS, BUT WE WOULD MOVE BACK TO THAT SPACE, IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND OR A, A DIFFERENT SPACE.
BUT WE GET INTO A LOT OF COMPLEXITIES WITH HAVING THE CAMERAS AND THE SOUND AND EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED.
UH, IT FUNCTIONED FOR A LONG TIME AND I, WE HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE OVER THERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN GET BACK HERE TO A MUCH NICER FACILITY.
I ALWAYS LIKED HAVING MEETINGS IN THE GARAGE ANYWAY, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS GOOD.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
WE APPROVE THIS, UH, APPLICATION.
IS THAT WHAT IT IS? I'LL SECOND.
THANK YOU HOWARD AND CHRIS, THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, ITEM SIX B IS APPROVED.
AND NOW WE NEED TO GO BACK TO OUR FINAL WORK SESSION ITEM, WHICH WAS ITEM SIX E PRESENT AND DISCUSS PROPOSED HOLIDAY PROGRAMMING IN THE ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT.
JANA, THANKS FOR HANGING IN THERE WITH US.
UM, JANA TIDWELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
UH, THE ITEM THAT I'M BRINGING BEFORE YOU IS TO CONSIDER, UM, SOME HOLIDAY PARK PROGRAMMING AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.
THE REASON THAT WE'RE BRINGING THE ITEM FORWARD, UM, SEPARATE FROM THE BUDGET CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, IS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME TIME SENSITIVE ITEMS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE, UM, PURCHASED, ACTUALLY WILL BE BRINGING YOU A CONTRACT, UM, AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IF THERE IS SUPPORT FOR WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED.
UM, TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION OF WHY STAFF IS BRINGING THIS ITEM TO COUNCIL.
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UM, FOR CON, JUST TO CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD WITH, IS THROUGH, UM, 2018, UH, THERE WAS A TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY THAT TOOK PLACE IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK DISTRICT AT BECKETT PARK.UM, IT INCLUDED THE INSTALLATION OF A HOLIDAY TREE AND SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPORT DECORATIONS.
THE TREE WAS 20 FOOT TALL AND IT FEATURED LED LIGHTS, I THINK IN THE BEGINNING.
IT DIDN'T START OUT WITH THAT, BUT AT THE END THAT'S WHAT IT HAD.
UM, IT WAS FUNDED AND SUPPORTED BY MAA, WHICH WAS FORMERLY POST PROPERTIES, UM, AND MAA OVER THE YEARS, I THINK THE TOWN, AND THIS IS ME TALKING TO TOWN STAFF AND MAA BECAUSE I DIDN'T WORK HERE AT THE TIME, BUT THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS BEING HAD BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES ABOUT MOVING THE TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY TO ADDISON CIRCLE PARK AND INSTALLING A BIGGER TREE.
UM, ALONG WITH THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAPPENING, UM, THERE WAS SOME REPEATED VANDALISM THAT WAS HAPPENING TO THE LIGHTS.
IT WAS PUTTING A FINANCIAL STRAIN ON MAA AND THE VENDOR THAT WAS HIRED TO MAINTAIN THE TREE.
AND IT, AS A RESULT, MAA CEASED INSTALLING THE TREE IN THE CEREMONY.
SO A BIG PUSH WAS THE VANDALISM THAT WAS HAPPENING TO THE TREES.
UM, BUT ANOTHER THING WAS THE DISCUSSION OF MOVING TO ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.
MAA DID NOT FEEL LIKE HAVING A HOLIDAY TREE IN CIRCLE PARK SERVED THEIR CLIENTS AND THEIR RESIDENTS AS WELL.
AND SO TO A HUNDRED PERCENT FUND THAT TREE IN CIRCLE PARK AND DO IT ON A MUCH LARGER SCALE THAT WAS NEEDED AT CIRCLE PARK, UM, DIDN'T ALIGN WITH, UM, KIND OF THE DIRECTION THAT THEY WERE RECEIVING FROM THEIR LEADERSHIP.
NOW, MAA DOES CONTINUE TO FUND THE LIGHTING OF THE MEDIAN TREES ON QUORUM DRIVE.
SO THE ONES THAT ARE WRAPPED IN THE WHITE LIGHTS THAT GO UP OR TURN ON ABOUT, UH, THANKSGIVING TIME AND COME OFF RIGHT AFTER CHRISTMAS, THOSE STILL ARE INSTALLED AND FUNDED BY MAA, UM, SINCE THE TREE HAS BEEN GONE, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS REQUESTS TO, UM, BRING THE HOLIDAY TREE BACK TO ADDISON CIRCLE PARK DISTRICT.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, STAFF WAS ASKED TO EXPLORE OPTIONS FOR BRINGING THE HOLIDAY TREE BACK AND A, A LIGHTING CEREMONY.
AND WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
AND THE RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF IS MAKING IS THAT WE LOCATE A HOLIDAY TREE AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.
THE REASON THAT WE ARE PICKING THE PARK IS RIGHT NOW WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO ACTIVATE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, AND A BIG COMPONENT OF ACTIVATED PARKS IS TO HAVE HOLIDAY DECORATIONS AND CEREMONIES THAT ALIGN WITH THE SEASONAL EVENTS THAT YOU ENJOY OVER THOSE HOLIDAYS.
UM, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED WOULD BE A 32 FOOT TALL TREE.
SO THAT IS 12 FOOT TALLER, UM, THAN THE TREE THAT WAS AT BECKARD PARK.
AND THE REASON WE'RE RECOMMENDING A TALLER TREE, UM, IS BECAUSE THE SCALE OF THAT PLAZA SPACE REQUIRES A LITTLE BIT LARGER TREE, SO IT FEELS LIKE IT FITS THE SPACE.
UM, WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT A, IT'S CALLED A TWINKLY TREE, UM, BE INSTALLED.
SO IT HAS ADDRESSABLE LED LIGHTS, THOSE LIGHTS, THERE'S A COMPUTER PROGRAM THAT CAN TELL THE LIGHTS TO BE DIFFERENT COLORS AND ANIMATE IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
UM, SO IT ADDS SOME MORE INTEREST.
UM, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THE TREE WOULD BE INSTALLED PRIOR TO THANKSGIVING.
UM, ONCE IT WAS INSTALLED, THE LIGHTS WOULD BE TURNED ON WHITE AND THEN ADDED TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY WE'RE PROPOSING THE FIRST FRIDAY IN DECEMBER TO NOT COMPETE WITH VITRUVIAN LIGHTS, UM, THAT A PROGRAM WILL BE TURNED ON THAT ANIMATES THE LIGHTS AND CHANGES THE LIGHTS TO TURN THE TREE TO TURN COLORS, UM, PARKS AND RECREATION WOULD WORK WITH SPECIAL EVENTS.
UM, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE BIND THE CEREMONY WITH THE HOLIDAY IN THE PARK CEREMONY THAT SPECIAL EVENTS DOES FOR RESIDENTS.
SO WE WOULD HAVE A LARGER REACH.
UM, BUT THE WAY THAT WE WOULD STILL CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR RESIDENTS IS THERE WOULD BE A VIP RESIDENT ONLY AREA.
UM, IF WE HAD, YOU KNOW, YOU GET TO MEET SANTA CLAUS, THERE WOULD BE A RESIDENT PASS THAT YOU CAN SKIP AHEAD IN THE LINE.
UM, THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TO INCENTIVIZE THAT.
IT STILL FEELS LIKE A SPECIAL EVENT FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO ATTEND, UM, TO PREVENT VANDALISM OF THE TREE.
WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE ALSO IN INSTALL A SIX FOOT TALL BRANDED TREE BASE.
UM, THIS WOULD HELP PREVENT WHAT WAS HAPPENING LAST TIME WHERE SOMEBODY WAS CLIMBING INSIDE THE TREE AND CUTTING THE WIRES.
IT WOULD LIMIT THE ACCESS FOR GETTING IN THE TREE, BUT THE OTHER BENEFIT OF THAT IS WE COULD PUT ADDISON'S BRAND ON THE TREE BASE.
WE LIKE THE IDEA OF IT BEING SIX FOOT TALL, SO WHEN PEOPLE TAKE SELFIES, WE GET OUR LOGO IN THERE.
AND IT ALSO ALLOWS US THE ABILITY TO SELL SPONSORSHIPS TO SOME OF OUR PARTNERS THAT ARE IN ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT TO ALSO PUT THEIR BRAND ALONG WITH OURS ON THE TREE BASE.
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UM, WE'RE ALSO SUGGESTING THAT WE ADD SOME ACCESSORY PLAZA TREES OR DECORATIONS SUCH AS SNOWFLAKES OR ORNAMENTS JUST TO GROUND IT.UM, IF YOU SEE THERE'S A PHOTO OF A BIGGER TREE WITH LIKE SEVERAL ACCESSORY TREES NEXT TO IT, OR PERHAPS THE ORNAMENT WHERE, UM, PEOPLE CAN STAND AND TAKE PHOTOS WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND.
AND THEN THE VERY BOTTOM PHOTO OF THE TREE THAT'S LIT UP IN THE DIFFERENT COLORS, THAT'S ACTUALLY AN ANIMATED PROGRAM THAT THE COLORS MOVE AND CHANGE, AND THAT'S WHAT STAFF WOULD BE RECOMMENDING, UM, TO BRING VISITORS TO ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT.
WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING.
THIS PROGRAMMING CAN BE ADDED, UM, THIS YEAR, OR IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DECIDE THAT WE WANNA GROW INTO AS WE START TO ACTIVATE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.
SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY THAT WE WOULD COMBINE WITH SPECIAL EVENTS.
UM, WE WOULD BRING IN A HOLIDAY BAND ON THE NIGHT OF THAT LIGHTING CEREMONY, A VISIT FROM SANTA.
WE WOULD HAVE A MAILBOX FOR LETTERS TO SANTA, AND WE'D ALSO HAVE A HOT COCOA BAR.
AND THEN IN, IN ADDITION TO OR BEYOND JUST THAT ONE NIGHT OF THE TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY, WE COULD ALSO OFFER CARRIAGE RIDES AROUND ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT 12 NIGHTS OF THE YEAR OR OF THAT HOLIDAY SEASON.
SO WE'D BE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY OR THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, UM, THAT PEOPLE COULD COME IN.
THEY COULD BUY A TICKET FOR THEIR GROUP TO GO ON A, UM, CARRIAGE RIDE AROUND THE DISTRICT.
WE COULD, UM, WE WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE LIGHTS THAT MAA HAS IN THE MEDIANS, BUT NOT ALL OF THE MEDIANS ARE LIT.
AND SO WE TALKED WITH OUR TREE LIGHTING PARTNER THAT WE COULD PUT BASE LIGHTS.
THERE'S NOT POWER AT ALL THOSE LOCATIONS, BUT WE COULD PUT UPLIGHTS AT THE ADDITIONAL TREES.
THOSE ARE CHARGEABLE LIGHTS THAT WILL RUN FOR FOUR TO FIVE HOURS, AND THEN THEY WOULD COME AND RECHARGE THEM EVERY DAY AND PUT THEM BACK.
UM, EVENTUALLY WE'D LIKE TO GET POWER TO ALL THOSE MEDIANS SO WE CAN WRAP ALL THE TREES, BUT THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD BE PROPOSING IN THE INTERIM.
AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO HAVE A MARKETING OUTREACH WHERE WE ENCOURAGE THE BUSINESSES IN ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT TO LIGHT THEIR FACADES AND ADD HOLIDAY DECORATIONS.
UM, WHAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DO IS FOR PEOPLE TO COME FOR A CARRIAGE RIDE AND THEN DECIDE THAT THEY'RE GONNA GO GRAB DINNER WITH THEIR FAMILY BEFORE OR AFTER.
AND SO WE ARE REAL, WE REALLY SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP OUR ESTABLISHMENTS IN ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT.
UM, THIS YELLOW ROUTE THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE IS THE PROPOSED ROUTE THAT, THAT WE ARE SUGGESTING.
SO IT WOULD, UM, TAKE OFF FROM THE CONFERENCE CENTER.
IT WOULD GO AROUND BLUEPRINTS, IT WOULD GO AROUND BECKER PARK.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE MY YELLOW LINE GOT A LITTLE OFF ON THE SLIDE.
THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT GRAPHICS, BUT THEN IT WOULD GO UP SPECTRUM AND THEN DOWN QUORUM AND BACK, UM, TO THE DROP OFF POINT.
UM, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE COST IS FOR THE HOLIDAY DECORATIONS.
UM, THIS WOULD BE A FIVE YEAR COMMITMENT.
UM, IT INCLUDES MAINTENANCE, STORAGE, AND INSTALLATION OF THE TREE.
UM, IT INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION AND BRANDING OF THE SIX FOOT TALL RISER AND THE, THE ACCESSORY DECORATIONS AND THE LIGHT PROGRAM.
AND THAT IS A COST, UM, FOR EACH YEAR OF THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
AND THEN FOR THE TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY, UM, WE'VE INCLUDED COST FOR THE HOLIDAY BAND STAGE AND SOUND AND ADVERTISING.
THIS ONE HAS AN ASTERISK BY IT BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE, UM, THAT WE INTEND TO GENERATE REVENUE TO OFFSET THE COST OF THE CARRIAGE RIDES.
WE'VE SPOKE WITH SEVERAL, SEVERAL OF THE CARRIAGE VENDORS AND, UM, WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THEM IS IN THE BEGINNING YOU'RE KIND OF FOOTING THE BILL A LITTLE BIT UNTIL YOU GET THE WORD OUT THAT THE CARRIAGE RIDES ARE THERE AND PEOPLE START BUYING TICKETS.
UM, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE WERE GIVEN IS IN DOWNTOWN FRISCO.
UM, IT TOOK ABOUT A WEEK OR SO BEFORE THEY STARTED SELLING ALL THEIR SLOTS FOR TICKETS.
AND SO THERE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF RISK.
AND SO I'VE PUT THE FULL DOLLAR AMOUNT IN THERE JUST IN CASE WE DON'T SELL ANY TICKETS TO ANY CARRIAGE RIDES.
UM, AND THAT IN ADDITION TO THE CARRIAGE RIDES, IT DOES INCLUDE, UM, STAFF, ALTHOUGH WE DO NOT HAVE TO STAFF IT, THAT IS AN OPTION.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEASONAL RECREATIONAL STAFF THERE, UM, JUST BECAUSE IT IS AN EVENT THAT IS SPONSORED AND SUPPORTED BY THE PARKS AND REC TEAM.
UM, THE COST FOR THAT IS VERY MINIMAL IN THIS $30,000.
IT COMES OUT TO BE ABOUT $3,000.
AND THEN THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE UPLIGHTS FOR THE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK DISTRICT.
SO HAVING SOMEBODY PUT THE LIGHTS OUT AND THEN TAKE THEM DOWN AND RECHARGE THEM EVERY DAY AND THEN STORE THE LIGHTS.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF COUNCIL SUPPORTED PARTS OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED OR ALL.
LIKE I SAID, WE CAN DO THIS IN PHASES.
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I, WHERE WE GROW INTO IT IS WE START TO ACTIVATE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, BUT I THINK WHAT WE REALLY HEARD AS A FIRST PRIORITY IS PUTTING THE TREE IN AND DOING A TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY.UM, THE CARRIAGE RIDES AND THE HOT COCOA BAR AND THOSE THINGS WERE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT ADDED A LOT OF CHARACTER THAT WOULD HELP DRAW PEOPLE TO ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT.
UM, IF COUNCIL DOES SUPPORT THIS, WE WOULD BRING, UH, A CONTRACT TO COUNCIL FOR THE TREE AND THE DECORATIONS.
UM, AND THEN WE DO NEED TO BEGIN PAYING DEPOSITS.
AND SO THERE WOULD BE A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO COVER THOSE COSTS.
AND THEN WE WOULD BEGIN, UM, TO LIGHT THE TREE AND INSTALLATION IN NOVEMBER.
WE WOULD HAVE A TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY DECEMBER 6TH, AND THEN THE CARRIAGE RIDES WOULD BEGIN ON DECEMBER 6TH.
UM, I GUESS MAYBE I'VE GOT SOME THOUGHTS.
HOW ABOUT THAT? UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THE IDEA OF THIS WHEN WE GET THINGS RAMPED UP AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF KICKING IT OFF AND, AND GETTING, GETTING STARTED, GETTING THINGS ROLLING.
UM, I, I DID KIND OF COUPLE THOUGHTS.
I DID KIND OF SCRATCH MY HEAD ON THE CARRIAGE RIDES, SO, UM, I THINK, I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE GREAT LATER, BUT NOT, NOT RIGHT NOW.
BUT, UH, ANOTHER THOUGHT I HAD RELATED TO THAT IS, UM, IS I GUESS MAA IS INDICATED THAT IF SINCE WE MOVED FROM BECKER PARK TO, TO, UH, ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, THAT, UH, THEY, THEY WEREN'T GOING TO SPONSOR PITCH IN.
SO MY CONVERSATION WITH THEM IS THEY FELT LIKE IT SERVED A WIDER GROUP THAN WHEN IT WAS AT BECKER PARK AND THEIR, UM, THEIR RESIDENCE AND THEIR, UM, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ARE LINING THAT AREA.
UM, BUT WHEN I, AND I DID SPEAK WITH THEM SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS, AND IF WE WERE TO SELL SPONSORSHIPS, THEY, UM, WOULD CONSIDER BEING A PARTNER IN THE TREE.
UM, AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO STILL CAPTURE SOME SUPPORT FROM THEM.
UM, I JUST FEEL LIKE THEY FELT LIKE WHAT WAS HAPPENING AT CIRCLE PARK BENEFITED OTHER PROPERTIES ALSO, AND PERHAPS EVERYBODY SHOULD CONTRIBUTE.
UM, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE CARRIAGE RIDE PART OF IT, THAT DOES SEEM TO BENEFIT THEM A GREAT DEAL.
SO, UM, ONE OF MY THOUGHTS WAS IS, IS IF THEY WANTED TO, IF THEY WANTED THESE CARRIAGE RIDES TO COME THROUGH AND, AND SEE ALL THEIR PROPERTIES AND SO FORTH, UM, MIGHT THEY, MIGHT THEY PITCH IN TO, TO HELP FACILITATE THAT HAPPENING? THOSE ARE DEFINITELY SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT WE CAN HAVE.
ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, THE ONLY THOUGHT IS, IS, UM, FOR RIGHT NOW UNTIL THE TOD GETS, I, I'M JUST NOT A FAN OF THE CARRIAGE RIDES FOR RIGHT NOW, UNLESS, UNLESS MAA, UM, AND OTHERS STEP UP TO PAY FOR THAT PORTION.
DARREN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? UH, CAN GO FIRST? CHRIS? I LOVE THE IDEA OF ACTIVATING THE PARK.
I, I, I, I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA.
UM, I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED AT THE COST OF THE HOLIDAY DECORATIONS.
I LOOKED AT IT THE FIRST TIME AND I THOUGHT $70,000 OVER FIVE YEARS IS A LOT OF MONEY.
AND NOW YOU'RE SAYING IT, IT'S $70,000 A YEAR.
SO CAN, CAN YOU JUST WALK ME THROUGH THAT? LIKE WHAT, WHAT SURE.
SO THE, AND, AND LET ME FOLLOW IT UP WITH, I MEAN, WOULD IT BE BETTER IF WE JUST PURCHASED IT AND HANDLED IT OURSELVES? IT, IT'S ALMOST THE SAME COST.
UM, WE DID LOOK AT IT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
I WILL TELL YOU, WE INITIALLY ASKED THEM TO GIVE US A PRIZE FOR A 25 FOOT TALL TREE, UM, THAT DIDN'T HAVE PROGRAMMABLE WHITES, AND IT DIDN'T INCLUDE THE SIX FOOT TALL BRANDED RISER.
UM, AND IT DIDN'T INCLUDE THE ACCESSORY ITEMS, THE TREES OFF TO THE SIDE.
SO IT WAS A TREE IN THE MIDDLE OF CIRCLE, THE CLOSET CIRCLE PARK, AND THAT WAS ABOUT $30,000.
AND WE DEFINITELY CAN PULL BACK AND LOOK AT SOMETHING SMALLER.
THE REASON THAT WE MADE A BIGGER MOVE IS WE SEE THIS BEING THE TREE IN THE DISTRICT THAT STARTS TO BECOME, YOU KNOW, THE HOLIDAY ICON AS WE START TO ACTIVATE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.
UM, AND THE IDEA OF INTEGRATING THE LIGHT PROGRAM PROGRAMMING THAT'S COLOR CHANGEABLE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST TO US.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, IT IS A FIVE YEAR LEASE AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GO SMALL AND THEN GROW INTO SOMETHING BIGGER IF, AND THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS.
UH, FOR ME, I, I, YOU KNOW, I LOVE GOING OVER TO VITRUVIAN, YOU KNOW, ONCE THOSE LIGHTS ARE UP, IT'S EVERY NIGHT THERE'S,
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THERE'S A GREAT CROWD THERE AND I WOULD LOVE TO DO THE SAME THING OVER HERE AND, AND I WOULD JUST RELY ON YOU AND YOUR STAFF TO HELP US, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT HAPPEN.UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST, I DON'T, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO DO A SMALLER TREE AND JUST PUT A TREE OUT THERE? OR DO YOU REALLY START TO GET, YOU KNOW, UM, THE ATTENTION OF FOLKS WHEN YOU HAVE A TREE AND A HOT CHOCOLATE BAR AND BANDS AND CARRIAGE RIDES? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT WELL, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING WAS THE BIGGER OPTION BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA GET THE FOOT TR HELP US GET THE FOOT TRAFFIC.
I KIND OF FIGURED YOU'D SAY THAT.
UH, JANA, DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE USEFUL LIFE MIGHT BE OF THESE COMPONENTS OF THE HOLIDAY DECORATIONS? I KNOW IT'S A FIVE YEAR LEASE.
AND I THINK WHAT YOU WERE GETTING AT WAS, WOULD YOU USE THE TREE MORE THAN JUST FIVE YEARS IF WE PURCHASED IT AND WE WOULD, UM, THE THING THAT I SEE THAT IS THE DOWNSIDE SIDE IS WE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN AT THE PARKS BAY LATELY, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU A TOUR.
WE'RE KIND OF BUSTING, BUSTING AT THE SEAMS AND WHERE WE CAN STORE THINGS.
A LOT OF OUR MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT EXCEEDS OUR CAPABILITIES.
UM, AND SO THE TREE WOULD BE STORED OFF SITE.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS WE ARE NOT TREE LIGHTING EXPERTS.
AND WHEN, WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT PROGRAMMABLE LIGHTS, UM, THIS ACTUALLY, THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT COMES WITH A PERSON.
THAT IF THE LIGHTS GO OUT, IF SOMEBODY CUTS THE LIGHTS, THEY'RE REPAIRING THEM THAT DAY AND GETTING US UP AND GOING.
SO THEY'RE PUTTING IT UP, THEY'RE MAKING SURE IT WORKS AND ON A DAILY BASIS THEY'RE INTERFACING WITH US WHILE THE TREE'S UP.
AND SO THAT'S PART OF THAT COST.
I MEAN, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING BREAKS OR WHATEVER, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR, ALL THE MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT INCLUDES THE MAINTENANCE.
AND THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENS AT VITRUVIAN LIGHTS, UM, WHERE THERE IS A VENDOR THAT SHOWS UP EVERY DAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK, MAKE SURE ALL THE LIGHTS COME ON.
UM, NOW WE HAVE ASKED OUR VENDOR TO INCLUDE IN PRICING THAT THEY CAN STILL BE CALLED IN BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE SEEN AT VITRUVIAN IS SOMETIMES IT'LL RAIN AND YES, LIGHTS WORKED AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN A SECTION IS OUT.
AND SO WE'VE INCLUDED A REQUEST TO HAVE SOMEBODY AVAILABLE THE ENTIRE TIME THE LIGHTS ARE ON TO GET THINGS GOING.
SO THEY TAKE CARE OF SETUP TEAR DOWN AND THEN THEY STORE IT FOR THE OTHER 11 MONTHS OF THE YEAR? YES.
SOMEBODY ELSE, HOWARD, SO WHO PAYS FOR VITRUVIAN AND HOW MUCH DOES THAT ONE COST? I DON'T KNOW THE COST.
I CAN TELL YOU WHO HELPS SUPPLEMENT IT.
I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT THAT IF YOU NEED IT.
IT'S, WE, WE PAY 85,000, UH, TOWARDS VITRUVIAN LIGHTS.
UM, AND THEN WE PAY, UH, 115 TOTAL FOR, UH, VITRUVIAN LIGHTS AND BAND AND THEN UDR COVERS THE REMAINING WHATEVER COST THAT THAT IS TO GET ALL THAT STUFF DONE.
IS THAT 85 PLUS ONE 15 OR ONE 15? UH, I'M SORRY, ONE 15 TOTAL.
SO BASICALLY WHAT, 85 FOR THE TREE LIGHTING.
UM, AND THAT'S NOT THE TOTAL, THAT'S OUR, OUR COMMITMENT TO THEM 85,000, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM VITRUVIAN IS THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MANY YEARS AND THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PRICE THAT IT COST.
AND THEN AS THE COST HAS COME UP, GONE UP OVER THE YEARS, THEY'VE ABSORBED THE INFLATION.
UM, SO THERE IS AN AMOUNT THAT IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THAT WE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT.
DARREN, WHAT IS THE INVOLVEMENT WITH SPECIAL EVENTS, UH, ON THIS SORT OF, ON THIS, UH, PLAN? SURE.
SPECIAL EVENTS AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM WOULD WORK TOGETHER FOR THE HOLIDAY LIGHTING PARTY.
UM, AND IT'S, OR FOR THE TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY AND THE PARTY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UM, IT'D BE SIMILAR TO HOW WE SUPPORT SPECIAL EVENTS FOR A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT PARKS AND REC DOES, UM, WE'RE KIND OF THEIR HANDS AND FEET A LOT OF THE TIMES AND, UM, THEY SOMETIMES HAVE THE BIG IDEAS AND KNOW HOW TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND SO WE WOULD BE TEAM MEMBERS WITH EACH OTHER MAKING THAT HAPPEN.
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I, I SAW THAT IN THE BEGINNING AND, UM, I'M NOT REALLY KEEN ON SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY, BUT I DO SEE THIS AS A PRIMER FOR, UH, THE ACTIVITY COMING TO ADDISON PARK.AND, UH, I LIKE THE CARRIAGE RIDE A LOT BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES SHOW OFF ALL OF THE ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT.
UM, I WOULD LOVE FOR MAA TO PAY, BUT IF WE WANT TO DO IT ANYWAY, WHY WOULD THEY PAY? AND, AND I'VE, I ASKED THE QUESTION ON THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS, UM, WHY DON'T THEY PAY FOR THIS? AND THE ANSWER IS, IS REALLY A GOOD ANSWER.
IT DOESN'T DIRECTLY, UM, BENEFIT THEM AS MUCH AS IT DID BEFORE.
LIKE VITRUVIAN ISS ALL AROUND UDR, I MEAN, IT, IT'S ALL FOR THEM AND IT BRINGS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN.
UM, I THINK IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY WE, IT'S A FIVE YEAR COMMITMENT.
UM, I I WOULD BE, UH, LEANING TOWARDS FAVORABLE ON IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD PLAN.
I, I TELL YOU, I REALLY LIKE THIS IDEA AND I'M GLAD YOU WERE BRINGING IT BACK BECAUSE I REALLY MISS WHAT WE USED TO DO IN BECKER PARK.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT AND I REALLY KINDA WANTED TO KEEP IT OVER THERE, BUT SEEING YOU EXPLAIN IT AND WHAT THE, WHAT THE PLANS ARE, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD MOVE TO BRING IT OVER HERE TO CIRCLE PARK.
AND I SEE THIS, I LIKE THE 32 FOOT TREE.
I LIKE THE CARRIAGE RIDE BECAUSE I, I KNOW HOW GREAT THE LIGHTS LOOK AS YOU DRIVE THROUGH THE DISTRICT, UH, WHEN THE, WHAT THE, WITH THE WRAPPED TREES AND EVERYTHING.
AND I THINK THE CARRIAGE RIDES WILL BE GREAT.
AND I SEE THIS AS NOT A FINISHED THING.
I THINK YOU SEE THIS AS A STARTING POINT FOR, FOR GROWING THIS AS WE COME INTO THE T TO THE TOD BUILD OUT AND, AND THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE SILVER LINE, UH, THEN IT COULD BECOME A DESTINATION FOR FOLKS THAT WANNA COME AND SEE THIS, THIS REALLY COOL HOLIDAY LIGHT DISPLAY, NOT JUST A TREE, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES WITH THAT.
SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT, UH, GREAT IDEA AND, AND, UM, AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, HOWARD? I, I'M JUST THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX PROBABLY DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, BUT LIKE WHEN WE DO TASTE ADDISON AND WE HAVE ALL THE RESTAURANTS COME OUT, COULD WE POSSIBLY HAVE BOOTHS OF SOME SORT? I MEAN, IT'S, IS IT GONNA BE 12 DAYS OR IS IT GONNA BE A WHOLE MONTH? BUT WHERE THEY COULD PAY US TO RENT SPACE AND THEY COULD SELL THEIR, SO THOSE ARE PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS FOR ACTIVATING ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, UM, WHICH WE'RE, UM, GETTING TO A POINT IN SEPTEMBER, I BELIEVE WE'LL BE BRINGING SOME OF THOSE THOUGHTS AND IDEAS TO COUNSEL.
UM, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN THE SHORT RUN, THAT WOULD BE A REALLY HARD STRETCH FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO BY DECEMBER.
UM, BUT AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ACTIVATING THE PARK ON A DAILY BASIS, THAT IS, THOSE ARE THE BIG IDEAS THAT WE'RE HAVING.
AND SO THERE IS THE POTENTIAL TO DO THAT.
YEAH, AND I WAS ALSO GONNA SAY, UH, AS FAR AS HAVING MAA PAY FOR IT, I'D BE GLAD TO HAVE THEM AS, AS A SPONSOR AND PARTICIPATE.
UM, BUT I LIKE IT TO BE OUR THING WHERE WE, WE DO IT OUR WAY AND IT'S NOT WHAT THEY WANNA DO.
SO, UM, I THINK IT WORKS IN OUR FAVOR TO DO THAT AND LET THEM, LET THEM, THEY'LL WANT TO BE ON BOARD, I THINK ONCE THEY SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
CHRIS, I, I WAS JUST GONNA ADD THAT I, I THINK IF WE WERE TO DO IT, I I, I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS RATHER THAN A SMALLER TREE, UM, RATHER THAN CUTTING DOWN ON, ON SOME OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SERVICES WE MIGHT PROVIDE.
UM, AND JUST LIKE WE APPROACH EVERY OTHER SPECIAL EVENT, I MEAN, WE, WE, WE DO IT A YEAR.
WE, WE LOOK AT WHAT WORK, WHAT DIDN'T WORK, AND WE TWEAK IT AND WE JUST TRY TO GET BETTER THE NEXT YEAR.
UM, I AGREE BASICALLY WITH, UM, WHAT CHRIS IS SAYING THAT, UM, I'M REALLY NOT INTERESTED.
I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THIS PACKAGE THAN TO CUT BACK ON THINGS.
I'D RATHER COME OUT BIG OR, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY NOTICEABLE, UM, TO START WITH.
AND THEN, LIKE YOU SAID, I CAN'T IMAGINE, BUT THAT IT WILL GROW FROM THERE.
I DID HAVE THE SAME REACTION AS CHRIS WHEN I FIRST SAW THE NUMBER.
I THOUGHT, OH, MAYBE THAT'S FOR FIVE YEARS.
BUT THEN I GOT TO THINKING ABOUT HOW MUCH I'VE SEEN BEING PAID ON SHOPPING CENTERS FOR DECORATION.
AND I THOUGHT, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S FOR YEAR, THAT'S HUGE.
SO, BUT IT'S, I THINK IT'S GREAT.
I THINK THERE WILL BE A LOT OF GOOD, UH, COMMUNITY FEEL, UH, THAT WE'LL GET FROM IT.
UM, EVEN THE, EVEN THE CARRIAGE RIDES, EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT NOT BE NECESSARILY THE FIRST YEAR I LIKE 'EM, I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT.
AND, AND I THINK THERE'LL BE A LOT OF, A LOT OF COMMUNITY AND FAMILY TIME AND THAT SORT OF THING THAT WE'LL GET OUT OF IT.
SO IN THAT NUMBER OF $69,000 A YEAR FOR CLARITY, THAT'S ALMOST LIKE AN INSURANCE POLICY, CORRECT.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VANDALISM AND YES, WE WILL, THE SERVICE, THE PROPOSAL THAT WE WILL BRING FORWARD FOR COUNSEL TO CONSIDER, WE'LL HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THE SERVICE
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THAT THE VENDOR'S GOING TO PROVIDE TO US, AND IT WILL HAVE ALL OF THAT DEFINED.THAT WAY THERE'S SOME TRANSPARENCY TO WHAT THE, THE REAL COST LOOKS LIKE.
AND, AND WE ARE, WE'RE STILL HAVE A WINDOW TO SHARPEN OUR PENCIL A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'LL DO, 'CAUSE WE NEED TO PICK THE ACCESSORY ITEMS TO GO WITH IT.
BUT WE WILL BE MINDFUL OF, OF THAT COST.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE DIRECTION FROM US? I FEEL LIKE I HAVE DIRECTION, UM, WITH ONE CLARIFICATION.
I THINK I SAW A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THE HOLIDAY TREE AS PROPOSED.
UM, BUT PERHAPS SUPPORT FOR GROWING INTO THE CARRIAGE RIDES IN A FUTURE YEAR? NO.
ALL ON BOARD FOR ALL OF IT NOW.
YEAH, I THINK DIDN'T, DIDN'T DALLAS SAY NO MORE CARRIAGE RIDES.
I, I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MAYBE, SO I DON'T, I I WAS FOLLOWING THIS IN THE NEWS AND I KNOW THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE CONSIDERING ACTION ON, AND I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT POSITIVE THAT IT'S PASSED YET, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS GOING TO, UM, THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BAN CARRIAGE RIGHTS.
UM, THE ONES THAT I'VE BEEN IN HAVE NICE WARM BLANKETS THOUGH, THAT YOU CAN USE IF YOU DON'T BRING YOUR OWN.
I THINK THAT'S ALL ON THAT ONE.
ALRIGHT, THE LAST THING WE HAVE
[7. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.]
FOR TONIGHT IS, UH, ITEM SEVEN, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO, UH, GIVE SOME EXPRESSION OF THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, CONDOLENCE AND SO FORTH.ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING DARREN? THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT, UH, LEAK ON PROTON THAT I WAS WALKING BY EVERY DAY, UH, FROM A VALVE, UH, ON THE CORNER.
SO I LOOKED UP ON THE WEBSITE, FOUND THE INFORMATION, SO THERE'S A KUDOS TO THE WEBSITE AT SOME WEBSITE.
CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER.
CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER.
I GUESS IT'S INTECH, RIGHT? DOES NON-EMERGENCY DISPATCH ALSO ANSWER THE CALL? KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
DIDN'T ARGUE WITH ME FOR I, WHERE I WAS AT.
I WAS IN ADDISON AND, UM, REAL QUICK.
LIKE 15 MINUTES LATER, HERE COMES AN ADDISON TRUCK DRIVING THROUGH THERE LOOKING AT IT.
AND UH, THE NEXT DAY I WALKED BY AND IT'S STILL LEAKING.
I'M LIKE, OH MY GOODNESS, YOU'RE KIDDING ME.
SO I DIDN'T LEAVE MY NUMBER THE FIRST TIME 'CAUSE I DIDN'T WANNA BE THAT COUNCIL GUY, YOU KNOW, CALLING IN ALL THE TIME.
SO I LEFT MY NAME THE SECOND TIME AND THE PHONE NUMBER AND FERNANDO IS, IS THAT ONE OF THE GUYS ON THE PARKS? FERNANDO? YEAH.
OR STREETS, RIGHT? BELIEVE, YEAH, STREETS CALLED BACK, UH, LIKE FIVE MINUTES LATER BEFORE I WAS EVEN WALKING HOME AND, UH, GAVE ME THE UPDATE.
IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, IT'S AN IRRIGATION VALVE, AND, UH, I, I STOPPED BY YESTERDAY AND LET THE, UH, THE HOTEL KNOW THAT IT'S THEIR PROBLEM.
SO JUST A REALLY, UH, GOOD OR KIND OF FULL CIRCLE ON, ON HOW THINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK, WHERE THE INFORMATION IS.
AND THE SHARED SERVICES WORK LIKE A CHAMP ON TWO CALLS, BY THE WAY.
UM, AND IT WAS JUST REALLY A, REALLY A GOOD EXPERIENCE.
SO JUST SHOUT OUT TO ALL THOSE DIFFERENT PIECES.
ANYBODY ELSE? DAN, QUICK NOTE, SINCE I'VE BEEN TRAVELING MUCH JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE SHANNON HICKS ON HIS NEW MOVE TO, UH, ASSISTANT CITY CHIEF WITH CARROLLTON WILL BE MISSED DEARLY.
AND JUST CONGRATULATIONS TO SHANNON.
YEAH, SHANNON AND SHANNON ABOUT HOW BEAUTIFUL MIDWAY LOOKS RIGHT NOW, SEEING THE TREES AND THE VEGETATION COMING IN.
UH, WE'RE WELL DESERVED BY SHANNON.
UM, SO I HAVE TWO THINGS, TWO QUICK THINGS.
ONE, UH, I JUST WANNA SHARE A STORY.
ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS, UH, WHILE BACK, HE, HE, HE WAS TELLING ME SOMETHING ABOUT SOMETHING GOING ON IN NORTH ADDISON PARK AND, AND, UH, AND HE, HE WAS A LITTLE FRUSTRATED.
I SAID, WELL, DID YOU PUT, DID YOU REPORT IT ON THE FIXIT APP? HE SAID, WHAT'S THAT? SO I TOLD HIM ALL ABOUT THE FIXIT APP.
AND THEN I, THE OTHER DAY I RAN INTO HIM AND HE WAS REALLY EXCITED.
HE SAID, I USED THE FIXIT APP FOR THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE THE TIMING WAS OFF IN THE, IN THE, UH, THE LIGHTS IN THE PARK IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS.
'CAUSE HE GOES OUT FIVE O'CLOCK EVERY MORNING AND, AND THEY WERE OFF, I THINK BY AN HOUR OR SOMETHING.
HE SAID, I REPORTED IT ON THE FIXED APP, AND THE VERY NEXT DAY IT WAS ALREADY FIXED.
SO KUDOS TO THE PARKS ONCE AGAIN FOR JUST BEING SO RESPONSIVE TO THAT.
THE OTHER THING I WANNA MENTION, UH, JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE BUSINESSES WE HAVE ON ADDISON AND, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS DOING THE, UH, THE BRE VISITS, THE BUSINESS RETENTION EXPANSION.
WELL, WE, WE PAID A VISIT YESTERDAY TO A COMPANY CALLED AIRBORNE.
AND YOU MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH IT.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A ROAD CALLED AIRBORNE DIRECTLY ACROSS WEST GROVE FROM THE SERVICE CENTER.
IT'S A VERY SHORT ROAD AND ON, THERE'S A BUSINESS ON THERE CALLED AIRBORNE, PROBABLY WHY IT WAS NAMED.
AND SO WE TOOK A TOUR OF THAT.
AND THIS IS A COMPANY THAT THEY, THEY MANUFACTURE WIRELESS CONNECTORS FOR IN, FOR THE AERONAUTICAL FIELD AIRCRAFT, ROCKETS.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE PARTS, THEIR, THEIR CONNECTORS ARE ON THE MARS ROVER.
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THAT LOCATION, THEY'VE BEEN IN ADDISON SINCE THE EARLY 1960S.AND IF THEY'RE NOT THE OLDEST BUSINESS IN TOWN, THEY'RE, THEY GOTTA BE ONE OF THE OLDEST.
SO IT WAS JUST, AND I, I WALK BY THERE ALMOST EVERY DAY AND I HADN'T HAD EVER HAD ANY IDEA WHAT THEY DID WITH IT, BUT IT WAS AMAZING WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE WITH THIS, I FORGET, 160 OR SOMETHING, EMPLOYEES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, UM, AND WE WALKED THERE AND SAW THE WORK THAT THEY WERE DOING, VERY, VERY DETAILED WORK AND IT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE.
AND, AND IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'D NEVER EVEN KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN ADDISON, BUT THEY'D BEEN AROUND HERE FOR OVER PROBABLY 60 PLUS YEARS.
BUT, BUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OTHER BUSINESS THAT MIGHT BE, UH, YOU KNOW, AMONG THAT, UH, THE OLDER IN TOWN THAT WE MIGHT NOT EVEN KNOW ABOUT.
SO ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? ALL RIGHT.