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          OKAY. 
          GOOD 
          [1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present.]
EVENING EVERYBODY. 
          IT IS FIVE OH ONE AND WE WILL CALL THE ORDER OF THIS MEETING THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL. 
          IT'S THE, UH, BUDGET WORKSHOP, FIRST OF TWO BUDGET WORKSHOPS. 
          WE DO HAVE A FORUM PRESENT IN THE ROOM HERE. 
          WE HAVE SIX OUT OF OUR SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS, 
          [a.  Present and discuss the Proposed Annual Budget for the Town of Addison for Fiscal Year 2025 (Beginning October 1, 2024, and Ending September 30, 2025), including, but not limited to, the General Fund, Utility Fund, Stormwater Fund, Airport Fund, Hotel Fund, Economic Development Fund, Information Technology Fund, Capital Replacement Fund, Infrastructure Investment Fund, and Long-Term Planning.]
AND WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO OUR ITEM NUMBER TWO, WORK SESSION REPORTS. 
          TWO A IS PRESENT AND DISCUSS THE PROPOSED ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025, BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2024, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025. 
          INCLUDING BUT NOT IN LIMITED TO THE GENERAL FUND, UTILITY FUND, STORM WATER FUND, AIRPORT FUND, HOTEL FUND, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FUND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY FUND, CAPITAL REPLACEMENT FUND INFRASTRUCTURE, INVESTMENT FUND, AND LONG TERM PLANNING. 
          DAVID, ARE YOU, START US OFF. 
          I'LL START. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME MORE FUNDS SO YOU HAVE A LONGER CAPITAL. 
          OH, GOOD, GOOD. 
          WE NEED, WE, WELL, THANK YOU MAYOR AND THANKS COUNCIL. 
          UM, THIS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME WE GET HERE IN THE BUDGET, IT'S REALLY THE CULMIN CULMINATION OF A LONG PROCESS, UH, OF MULTIPLE MONTHS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO GET HERE. 
          YOU'LL SEE THAT AS STEVEN COMES UP AND PRESENTS, BUT I ALWAYS LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AS BANK. 
          UH, STEVEN, OUR ENTIRE BUDGET STAFF, KRISTEN, UM, FINANCE STAFF, AND CERTAINLY ALL, ALL, ALL OF OUR DIRECTORS. 
          THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT THAT TAKES EVERYONE THROUGHOUT THE ACCOUNT. 
          SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE AND START THIS PROCESS. 
          UM, STEVEN WILL COME UP AND GIVE YOU A, A, AN OVERVIEW, BUT JUST QUICKLY TO NOT STEAL TOO MUCH OF HIS THUNDER, I'LL GIVE YOU AN OUTLINE OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO OVER THE NEXT TWO DAYS. 
          TODAY IT'S MOSTLY FOCUSED ON, UH, BOARD DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL BE PRESENTING THEIR BUDGETS. 
          WHAT WE, OUR INTENT WAS OVER THE PAST FEW WORK SESSIONS TO HAVE A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS PRESENT SO YOU COULD SEE SOME OF THEIR BUDGETS BEFORE YOU STARTED THE SAW, THE ENTIRE BUDGET ROLLED UP. 
          WE HAD, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A VERY, VERY BUSY WORK SESSION, UH, CALENDAR OVER THE PAST MONTH OR TWO. 
          SO WE DIDN'T GET TO A LOT OF THOSE. 
          I KNOW WAYNE GOT PUSHED A COUPLE TIMES WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS FOUR PRESENTATIONS TODAY, PARTS, SPECIAL EVENTS, AND THEATER, FIRE POLICE. 
          YOU ALSO HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA THE PRESENTATIONS THAT DIDN'T GET PRESENTED FROM PUBLIC WORKS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          THOSE ARE THERE. 
          ALSO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SPECIFICS OF CERTAINLY, UM, IF YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN A LOOK, WE'RE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS TODAY AT THE END OF THE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS OR THOSE COULD CERTAINLY COME BACK TOMORROW AS WELL, OR ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, AND SO THAT WILL BE TODAY, STEVEN WILL GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THOSE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS. 
          TOMORROW IS REALLY WHEN WE PRESENT THE ENTIRE BUDGET. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE ALL THE DECISION PACKAGES, UH, THE ENTIRE BUDGET, EACH OF THE FUNDS WHERE WE STAND ON THE FUNDS, THE FINANCIAL FORECAST, THE CIP, SO THAT'S OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE. 
          CERTAINLY THIS IS AN INFORMAL SETTING WHERE YOU'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          SO QUESTIONS COME UP ALONG THE WAY ON ANYTHING. 
          FEEL FREE TO ASK 'EM. 
          WE HAVE THE ENTIRE TEAM HERE, SO WE'RE HERE TO MAKE THIS AS EASY FOR YOU AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'LL ASK STEVEN TO COME UP AND GET US STARTED. 
          YEAH, WE JUST ASK THE COUNCIL MEMBER, ESPECIALLY ON THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE POSITIONING OF THE ROOM AND WHERE THE SPEAKERS ARE, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, IF YOU CAN DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS INWARD TO THE TABLE. 
          'CAUSE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TURN AND, AND YOU'RE ADDRESSING THE SPEAKER, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU VERY WELL ON THIS END, AND THE FOLKS BEHIND US DEFINITELY CAN'T HEAR ANY OF THE DISCUSSION. 
          SO JUST PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF THAT. 
          THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          STEVEN LIP, THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. 
          UM, SO AS DAVID MENTIONED, UH, HERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF OUR KIND OF AGENDA OVER THE NEXT TWO DAYS. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA KIND OF GET, GONNA GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF OUR, UH, BUDGET PROCESS. 
          UH, I'M GONNA GO OVER SOME OF THOSE, UH, FINANCIAL ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THIS, UH, BUDGET THAT YOU RECEIVED, UH, A FEW DAYS AGO. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE DEPARTMENTS COME UP. 
          UH, WE HAVE PARKS AND PRACTICE. 
          DAVID MENTIONED SPECIAL EVENTS, THEATER, POLICE, AND FIRE, AND THAT, THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR THIS DAY, AND IF WE COULD GET FURTHER, THAT'D BE GREAT, BUT NO PRESSURE. 
          UM, AND THEN TO, UH, TOMORROW WE HAVE, UH, THE DECISION PACKAGE SUMMARY AND THEN BASICALLY, UM, I'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT ALL FUNDS, UH, BUDGET SUMMARY FOR ALL OF OUR MAJOR FUNDS. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. 
          OH, IT'S INCORRECT. 
          OKAY, . 
          UH, SO AS DAVID KIND OF MENTIONED, THE BUDGET IS A YEAR LONG PROCESS, AND THIS IS REALLY, UH, WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO THE END OF IT. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY START IN JANUARY. 
          I THINK WHEN WE DID THIS PRESENTATION LAST YEAR, WE SAID, THIS IS HOW WE'D LIKE THE BUDGET CALENDAR TO LOOK. 
          UM, AND THE TOWN HAD NEVER REALLY DONE THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS. 
          IT WAS KIND OF MORE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS. 
          SO THIS IS REALLY THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE ACTUALLY DID THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING. 
          UH, THE COUNCIL SET THOSE KEY FOCUS AREAS AND STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES, UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          AND I THINK AS YOU'LL SEE THROUGHOUT THIS BUDGET PROCESS AND THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT ALL 
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THE DECISION PACKAGES AND EVERYTHING, THAT EVERYTHING REALLY TIES INTO THAT OPENING STEP, THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS. 
          SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IS TIED TO ONE OF THOSE FOCUS AREAS, ONE OF THOSE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, WE START WITH THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING AND WE TAKE FROM THAT, UH, THEN THE FINANCE STEP BEGINS PREPARING, UH, THE BUDGET, UH, SOME OF IT THEN WE HAVE A BUDGET KICKOFF WHERE WE, WE GIVE THE DIRECTORS SOME DIRECTION AND SAY, HEY, START, GO GOING TO WORK ON YOUR BUDGETS. 
          UH, WE HAVE SOME TRAINING FOR THEM WITH THE FINANCE STAFF. 
          UM, THEN WE GET INTO APRIL. 
          UH, WE ASK THE DEPARTMENTS TO SUBMIT THEIR BUDGETS TO FINANCE STAFF. 
          AND THEN IN MAY THEY MEET, UH, ALONG WITH FINANCE, UH, THEIR DEPARTMENTS, UH, WITH THE CITY MANAGER, UH, TO GO OVER THEIR BUDGET, UH, PRESENTATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER. 
          UH, WE HAD DISCUSSIONS THROUGHOUT MAY AND JUNE, AND THEN REALLY BEGINNING, UH, TO FORMULATE THAT CITY MANAGER PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          AND THEN THROUGHOUT JULY, WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR LONG TERM FINANCIAL PLANS. 
          UH, WE'RE GETTING OUR CERTIFIED VALUES FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, AND WE GET THOSE WE'RE REQUIRED, UH, BY LAW THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GET THOSE TO US BY JULY 25TH. 
          THEY CAN GET THEM TO US EARLIER, BUT NOT LATER. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, JULY 31ST WE'RE REQUIRED BY THE CHARTER TO SUBMIT THAT PROPOSED BUDGET TO THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND THEN WE'RE HERE IN AUGUST, UH, HERE AT OUR, UH, WORK SESSIONS FOR THE BUDGET. 
          AND THEN IN SEPTEMBER WE'LL HAVE SOME PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE AT THAT, UH, FIRST MEETING OF SEPTEMBER. 
          AND THEN AS WE GET INTO OCTOBER, THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF OUR FISCAL YEAR, UH, WE SUBMIT OUR BUDGET TO GOA 40 BUDGET PRESENTATION AWARD. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE OUR AUDIT, AND THEN WE GO THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PROCESS AGAIN THE NEXT YEAR. 
          SO IT REALLY IS A FULL YEAR PROCESS. 
          UH, SO, AND AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR APPROVAL PROCESS THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET, THERE'S SOME VERY SPECIFIC THINGS RELATED TO TAX RATE APPROVAL. 
          UH, SO AS I MENTIONED, WE GOT THE CERTIFIED VALUES, I THINK WE ACTUALLY GOT 'EM ON THE 24TH THIS YEAR. 
          UM, WE, UH, POST THE, THE TAX RATES, UH, ON THE WEBSITE. 
          UM, AFTER THE BUDGET WORKSHOP TOMORROW, UM, FRIDAY, AUGUST 23RD, WE'LL PUBLISH OUR NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE. 
          UM, THE TOWN HAS ACTUALLY CONTINUED TO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE TAX RATE. 
          UH, THE LAW NOW ONLY REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE ONE IF WE'RE ADOPTING A TAX RATE OVER A CERTAIN LEVEL. 
          UH, BUT FOR TRANSPARENCY, THE TOWNS CONTINUE TO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE BUDGET TAX RATE. 
          SO WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 3RD. 
          UM, TUESDAY, UH, THAT'LL BE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THEN THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL HAVE ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10TH, WHICH, WHICH IS A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. 
          AND THEN ALSO THE BUDGET TAX RATE WILL BE UP FOR ADOPTION OF THAT MEETING. 
          AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED, OCTOBER 1ST, UH, IS A TUESDAY. 
          IT WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF FISCAL YEAR 2025. 
          SO AS I KIND OF MENTIONED THE KEY FOCUS AREAS, STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES, UM, THIS IS KIND OF A VIEW OF THE INITIATIVES THAT HAVE COME THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF FISCAL YEARS AND HOW THOSE REALLY TIE TO YOUR KEY FOCUS AREAS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          SO SOME OF THOSE THAT ARE AT THE TOP THERE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024, THOSE ARE THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS BUDGET PROCESS, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, THESE ITEMS HERE LISTED FOR 2025, WE'LL GET SOME DETAILED EXPLANATIONS OF WHAT THOSE ARE, BUT THIS IS REALLY HOW ALL THOSE ITEMS FIT INTO THE STRATEGIC PLANS. 
          SO WHEN I SAID THAT WE REALLY BUILD THIS BUDGET UP FROM THE STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THAT'S THE BASIS, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT I MEAN, THAT WE'RE TYING THOSE INITIATIVES THAT COME FROM STAFFS, UM, UH, DEPARTMENTS, REALLY FROM THAT DIRECTION AND STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          UH, SO OUR BUDGET ASSUMPTIONS FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, UH, SO THERE'S A VISION FOR ADDISON'S FUTURE, UH, A COMPETITIVE COMPENSATION PLAN, UM, FOLLOWING THROUGH ON OUR COMMITMENT TO RESIDENTS. 
          AND THEN ONE THING THAT WE REALLY DID THIS YEAR, AND ANOTHER THING THAT CAME FROM THAT, UH, THAT STRATEGIC PLAN AND KEY FOCUS AREAS, UH, WAS FOR US TO EXAMINE OPERATIONS AND ABILITIES FOR US TO CREATE EFFICIENCIES OR CREATE COST SAVINGS, UH, MAKE IMPROVEMENTS BE MORE INNOVATIVE. 
          SO AS YOU'LL, AS YOU'LL SEE ON DAY TWO IS WHAT WE PLANNED, IS THAT WE HAVE, UH, SOMETHING CALLED A RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION COMMITTEE THAT WAS CREATED. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE SOME, SOME AREAS THAT WE LOOKED FOR SAVINGS, SOME EFFICIENCIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, THAT ARE INCORPORATED INTO THIS BUDGET, BUT ALSO ONGOING ITEMS THAT, UH, THAT GROUP IS GONNA CONTINUE AT. 
          YES. 
          AND THEN OVERALL COMPENSATION BENEFITS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, BEING A CITY, WE'RE A SERVICE ORGANIZATION, MOST OF OUR COSTS ARE RELATED TO PERSONNEL. 
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UM, SO THE BIGGEST CHANGE YEAR TO YEAR IS GENERALLY GOING TO BE, UH, RELATED TO PERSONNEL. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A 4% COMPENSATION POOL INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          UH, IN ADDITION, THERE IS A MATRIX STAFFING STUDY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETED FAIRLY SOON. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAVE BENEFITS. 
          OUR HEALTH INSURANCE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE PROGRAM A 5% INCREASE, UH, FOR THOSE AS WE'RE ON A CALENDAR YEAR FOR THOSE, UH, THOSE HEALTH AND DENTAL BENEFITS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL NUMBER FOR THAT YET, BUT I KNOW THAT, UH, HR IS WORKING DILIGENTLY TO, UH, TO GET US, UH, TO A, A LOWER AMOUNT THAN WHAT WAS, UH, PERCEIVED IN THE PROPOSED GENERAL BE A NEGOTIATION PROCESS, THE INSURANCE COMPANY. 
          SO, UH, SO ANYWAY, 5% IS WHAT'S CURRENTLY PROGRAMMED IN THE BUDGET. 
          AND THEN WHAT WE SAW, AND THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, ACTUAL, UM, ASSESSED VALUE INCREASES. 
          SO WE DID SEE ABOUT A 5.1% INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES THIS YEAR. 
          UH, ABOUT 4% OF THAT WAS RELATED TO EXISTING PROPERTIES, AND WE HAD ABOUT 70 MILLION IN PROPERTIES THAT WERE NEW ADDED TO THE TAX ROLL. 
          UH, SO ABOUT 1.1% OF THAT WAS RELATED TO NEW PROPERTIES. 
          UH, WHAT'S IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS A TAX RATE OF 60.98 CENTS, WHICH IS THE CURRENT YEAR'S TAX RATE. 
          UH, AND WOULD BE THE SAME TAX RATE AS WE'VE HAD BEFORE, PREVIOUS TO FISCAL YEARS ACTUALLY. 
          UM, SO THE PORTION THAT FUNDS, YOU KNOW, GENERAL, GENERAL FUND, UM, OR POLICE FIRE STREETS, PARKS, UH, FROM THAT MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE, UH, THAT IS PROPOSED TO DECREASE DOWN TO 43.98 CENTS. 
          SO THAT'S A DECREASE OF A LITTLE OVER ONE STEP. 
          UM, AND THEN OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE IS PROPOSED AT 17 CENTS, AND THAT'S PROPOSED TO INCREASE FROM, UH, A LITTLE OVER 1 CENT. 
          UH, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, UM, WE HAVE SOME BOND ISSUANCES AND SOME STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOANS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY, UH, OVER APPROVED DEBT, UM, THAT ARE PROGRAM FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          WE HAVE ABOUT 15 MILLION IN STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOANS ANTICIPATED, UM, TO BE RECEIVED IN, UH, FISCAL YEAR 25. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE CERTIFICATE, UM, UM, THESE CERTIFICATES THAT ARE, UH, BEING SOLD, UH, HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, ABOUT FIVE WAIT, UH, 4 MILLION RELATED TO, UH, THAT IMS TAX RATE, UH, SALES TAX. 
          SO WE'RE CURRENTLY TRENDING ABOUT 8.6% OVER BUDGET. 
          UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, HAS ABOUT A 6.3% INCREASE, UM, COMPARED TO THE PRIOR YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          UM, SO IT LEADS A LITTLE BIT, UH, YOU KNOW, SALES TAX A LITTLE BIT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT VOLATILE, SO IT LEAVES A LITTLE BIT IN THERE, UM, IN CASE WE DO POTENTIALLY SEE A DOWNTURN. 
          WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT, BUT, UH, JUST A MORE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE. 
          UM, AND THEN OUR FUND BALANCE ENDING FOR THE GENERAL FUND, WE ANTICIPATE THAT, UH, THROUGHOUT NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THAT WE'LL STILL HAVE ABOUT 41.4%, UH, IN FUND BALANCE, UH, WHICH IS OVER, UH, THE POLICY OF 25% AND COUNCIL'S GOAL OF 30%. 
          UM, SO TOMORROW WE'LL GO THROUGH ALL THE LONG TERM PLANS FOR ALL THE FUNDS. 
          YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT COMES DOWN, THAT PERCENTAGE SLOWLY COMES DOWN, UM, OVER TIME. 
          BUT THE FUND BALANCE GENERALLY IS PROJECTED TO STAY FLAT ON LONG TERM PLAN. 
          UH, THAT BECAUSE EXPENSIVE, THAT FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE ULTIMATELY, UM, GOES DOWN SLIGHTLY, UH, UTILITY RATE INCREASES, UH, WITH THE ADOPTED UTILITY RATE MODEL. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT EVALUATING THE FUND BALANCE, UH, SPECIFIC TO THAT. 
          SO I'LL GET IN MORE DETAIL OF THAT TOMORROW. 
          BUT, UM, BASICALLY WE HAD BIG WHOLESALE INCREASES ON WATER AND SEWER THIS YEAR. 
          I THINK 7.7% INCREASE IN WHOLESALE WATER AND I THINK 9.1% ON WHOLESALE SEWER TREATMENT. 
          UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO FIND SOME OTHER EFFICIENCIES AND, AND KEEP THAT WITHIN THE 5.5% PROJECTED INCREASE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN THIS, UH, RATE MODEL, UM, FOR 2025. 
          SO WITH THAT SAID, UM, I'LL PASS IT ON TO JANA UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. 
          JUST A, A REALLY BASIC QUESTION. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AVAL ALARM AND THAT'S GONNA FUND AND THE KNOW AND DEBT SERVICE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE SALES TAX. 
          ARE WE LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN USE SALES TAX FOR? FOR THE MOST PART, NO. 
          IT CAN BASICALLY BE USED FOR ANYTHING THAT WE CAN USE IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO ANY SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING IN THE GENERAL FUND, IT CAN BE USED FOR EVEN, YOU KNOW, TECHNICALLY OUTSIDE OF WHAT WOULD BE 
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IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          I MEAN, IT CAN REALLY BE USED FOR ANYTHING, BUT YOU COULD NOT SERVICE DEBT WITH IT. 
          UM, WELL, YOU, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SERVICE DEBT WITH ANYTHING THAT'S IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          YOU JUST CAN'T TAKE THAT, THE INS SIDE OF THE TAX RATE AND PAY YOUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU CAN USE ANY SOURCE IN THE GENERAL FUND AND SERVICE YOUR DEBT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE? OKAY. 
          THERE UNDER SALES TAX, THE SECOND BULLET, CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO THAT ONE MORE TIME? WHERE DO YOU COME UP WITH, WITH, UM, YOUR PROPOSED, YOUR PROPOSAL PERCENTAGE THERE? SURE. 
          SO, UM, SO THE CURRENT YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET, WE STARTED AT 15.2 MILLION IS WHAT WE'VE BUDGETED IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. 
          UM, WE'RE TRENDING WHERE WE THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA END UP ABOUT AT 16.5 MILLION IS WHERE WE'RE PROJECTING. 
          UM, WE HAVE KIND OF A, WE USE A SOFTWARE THAT KIND OF MODELS THIS OUT FOR YOU, UM, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES KIND OF ALL BUSINESSES AND IT'S CAN BE A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE. 
          UM, WE USE THE NOT AS CONSERVATIVE  ESTIMATE FOR IT THIS TIME, BUT UM, BASICALLY IT KIND OF JUST DOES A FORWARD LOOKING, PARTIALLY FORWARD LOOKING PARTIALLY, YOU KNOW, PASS, UM, AND BASICALLY TRIES TO ESTIMATE WHAT YOUR SALES TAX WOULD BE IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, SO WE ORIGINALLY HAD THIS IN AT 16 MILLION AND WE BUMPED IT UP TO ABOUT 16.15 JUST BASED ON STRONGER SALES TAX COLLECTION. 
          SO THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ESTIMATING THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA HAVE 16.5, SO WE'RE PROJECTING NEXT YEAR 16.15, THREE $50,000 LESS. 
          UM, AND AS I SAID, WE JUST KIND OF, SALES TAX IS MORE VOLATILE, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE MONTH TO MONTH. 
          WE KIND OF KNOW, BUT WE DON'T A HUNDRED PERCENT KNOW LIKE, UH, WITH PROPERTY TAX. 
          UM, RIGHT. 
          SO, AND IT CAN HAPPEN QUICKLY. 
          IT CAN HAPPEN QUICKLY. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          OKAY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JANET TIPCO, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. 
          UM, I'M GONNA KICK OFF OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION BY GOING OVER OUR MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR OUR FY 24. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE DIVIDED THOSE ACCOMPLISHMENTS INTO CATEGORIES. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS MAINTENANCE AND ASSET MANAGEMENT. 
          WHEN WE DID OUR PARKS, RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN, THE NUMBER ONE THING WE HEARD FROM OUR RESIDENTS IS TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE FIRST. 
          AND SO WE PUT THIS ON THE TOP OF OUR LIST AS MAINTAINING THE ASSETS THAT WE HAVE. 
          UM, THIS YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO REPLACE THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB OUTDOOR POOL CLUSTER TILE, UM, THE BGB DRAINS, WHICH ARE A SAFETY ASPECT AND THE POOL LIGHTS. 
          AND WE HAVE BEEN USING THAT THIS WHOLE SEASON THAT THE OUTDOOR POOL'S BEEN OPEN. 
          SO THAT'S BEEN A REALLY NICE ELEMENT. 
          UM, WE IMPLEMENTED URBAN FORESTRY SOFTWARE TO MANAGE DATA THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE TOWN'S TREE SURVEY AND USING THE SOFTWARE TO BETTER MANAGE ADDISON'S URBAN FORESTS. 
          SO WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A GOAL FOR OURSELVES, UM, TO TOUCH EVERY TREE IN TOWN AT LEAST ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS FOR A HEAVY PRUNING. 
          SO THIS ISN'T JUST RUNNING TREES UP OVER SIDEWALKS, BUT IT, IT'S GOING IN, FITTING OUT TREES, RECRUITING 'EM FOR TREE HELP. 
          UM, AND THIS SOFTWARE IS GOING TO HELP US TRACK THAT AND MANAGE THAT. 
          ALONG WITH TRACKING OUR TREE MITIGATION PLAN, WE ALSO PURCHASED EQUIPMENT TO BEGIN CONVERSION OF, UM, IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. THE CENTRAL CONTROL AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE PURCHASE WILL BE FOR FIRE STATION ONE, THE POLICE, THE CONFERENCE CENTER, THE STONE COTTAGE, PARKVIEW PARK, TOWN PARK, WYNWOOD PARK, AND ARAPAHOE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          UM, THIS IS A PROGRAM WE STARTED ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO. 
          IT'S 10 YEAR PROGRAM THAT WILL TAKE US TO FULLY, UM, CONVERT OUR IRRIGATION SYSTEM, BUT WE HAD AGING IRRIGATION CONTROLLERS THAT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED AND WE ARE REPLACING THEM WITH CONTROLLERS THAT HAVE SOME INTELLIGENCE THAT TELL US WHEN A ZONE GOES OUT OR REPAIRS NEEDED OR WE HAVE A WATER LINE THAT'S FIRST. 
          UM, A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHY THIS IS HELPFUL FOR US IS ON RED AND TRAIL. 
          WE HAVE ABOUT 72 VALVES IN ONE AREA, UM, ON A CONTROL SYSTEM. 
          AND BEFORE WE HAD CENTRAL CONTROL, IF WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WAS A WATER LEAK, WE HAD TO GO WORK THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE VALVES TO FIND WHERE THE LEAK WAS. 
          AND NOTORIOUSLY IT WAS ALWAYS THE LAST ONE WE CHECKED , THIS WILL ACTUALLY NARROW DOWN THE LEAK BETWEEN THREE TO FIVE ZONES. 
          AND SO IT ALLOWS US TO BE MORE EFFICIENT IF REPAIR THEM FASTER. 
          IT ALSO SENDS US A TEXT MESSAGE THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE, UM, AND WE CAN ALSO SAVE PLANT MATERIAL. 
          SO IT'S BEEN A BIG WIN FOR US 
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AND IT'S A SLOW PROCESS GETTING THE ENTIRE TOWN CONVERTED OVER. 
          UM, WE ALSO DEVELOPED PLANTS AND RECITED THE LANDSCAPING AROUND ADDISON CIRCLE PARK PAVILIONS. 
          SO WE DID THE DESIGN OF THIS IN-HOUSE AND THE PLANTING IN-HOUSE WITH OUR OWN STAFF. 
          UM, WE ARE, UH, WE REPLACE AND INSTALLED ALL THE COAL LIGHTS AT TOWN PARK. 
          TOWN PARK IS OUR OLDEST PARK IN ADDISON. 
          AND WE NOTICED THAT THE FACES OF THE LIGHT HOLES WERE STARTING TO GROW AND BECOME A POINT WHERE WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY. 
          AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE POLES PURCHASED AND GET THEM INSTALLED. 
          WE ALSO HAVE ORDERED REPLACEMENT POLE LIGHTS FOR ARAPAHOE ROAD, BECKER PARK, AND WE ARE PREPARED TO GET THOSE INSTALLED AS SOON AS THEY ARRIVE. 
          WE ARE REPAIRING THE STONE ON BOS PARK FOUNTAINS. 
          SO IF YOU GO OUT THERE, THE REALLY NICE FOUNTAIN THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE A LOT OF MORTAR THAT'S CRACKING OUT. 
          IT'S JUST AGE AND BEING EXPOSED TO A WATER CONDITION. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'VE ORDERED 50 CONCRETE TRASH RECEPTACLES FOR ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICTS. 
          SO WE'RE REPLACING THE METAL RECEPTACLES WITH CONCRETE AND WE HAVE ORDERED REPLACEMENT BENCHES AND LIT RECEPTACLES FOR NORTH ADDISON PARK. 
          UM, WE PAINTED LIGHT POLES OUT THERE AT THE FARMHOUSE AND THEN THE  AT NORTH ADDISON PARK. 
          THE OTHER CATEGORY THAT IS AT THE TOP OF OUR LIST IS STAFF TRAINING AND CUSTOMER SERVICE. 
          OUR DEPARTMENT IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE WORKING IN OUR DEPARTMENT. 
          AND SO INVESTING IN THOSE EMPLOYEES AND TRAINING THEM IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US. 
          WE SENT TWO PARKS EMPLOYEES TO NRPA MAINTENANCE PARK AND MAINTENANCE SCHOOL THIS YEAR. 
          IT'S A TWO YEAR PROGRAM. 
          UM, AND SO THEY CAME BACK WITH A LOT OF VALUABLE INFORMATION. 
          UM, SOME OF THE PROCESS THAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH WILL ACTUALLY HELP OUR DEPARTMENT ALSO GET CAPRA CERTIFIED. 
          THAT'S ONE OF OUR GOALS AND ONE OF OUR THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. 
          AND THIS TRAINING WILL HAPPEN WITH HELP WITH THAT. 
          AND THEN WE SENT, UM, ONE SUPERVISOR TO, UM, SUPERVISOR OR WE SENT ONE EMPLOYEE TO SUPERVISOR SCHOOL. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE EXPANDED OUR SAFETY TRAINING PROGRAM. 
          WE'RE ACTUALLY, UM, DOING SOME SAFETY NEXT WEEK THAT'S RELATED TO THIS. 
          ONE OF THE OTHER GOALS IS WE DEVELOPED A TEAM FITNESS ORIENTATION PROGRAM AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          UM, IN THE PAST YOU HAD TO BE 15 YEARS OLD TO ACCESS THE WEIGHT EQUIPMENT ON THE UPPER LEVEL IN THE FITNESS SUITE. 
          YOU NOW CAN BE 13 IF YOU GO THROUGH A PROGRAM THAT WE FACILITATE YOU THAT TEACHES YOU HOW TO SAFELY WEIGHT IS THE EQUIPMENT AND IT'S BEEN A HUGE SUCCESS FOR US. 
          IT'S KIND OF CLOSING THE GAP BETWEEN WHERE OUR TEAM PROGRAM, OUR CHILDREN'S PROGRAMS ARE, AND WE'RE ENGAGING WITH TEENS BECAUSE THERE'S THAT, THAT 13 TO 15 YEAR AGE GROUP THAT IT'S HARD TO OFFER A LOT OF PROGRAMS. AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH. 
          WE ALSO HAVE EXPANDED ADDISON OUTDOOR EVENTS TO INCLUDE BARKS AND BEATS. 
          UM, WE HELD THIS YEAR AND MADE THE COURT BE WITH YOU AT THE FITNESS COURT AT VI TRIVIAN PARK, AND WE HAVE CONTINUED TO GROW ATTENDANCE AT POPUP YOGA, YOGA IN OUR FITNESS TRAINING IN THE PARKS. 
          AND WE PLAN TO CONTINUE GROWTH WITH THAT PROGRAM THROUGH OUR NEXT YEAR. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO, SOME OF OUR MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS WE PUT UNDER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO WE HAVE BEEN MAKING MEANINGFUL PROGRESS WITH OJV LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE TO DEVELOP A VISION PLAN FOR ADDISON CIRCLE PARK. 
          WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          UM, WE'VE DONE HELD TWO PUBLIC SURVEYS, TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS, AND WE ARE GETTING READY TO START TO BRING BACK SOME SCHEMATIC DESIGNS FOR OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. 
          WE ARE ALSO FINALIZING SCHEMATIC DESIGN FOR CORN ROAD ACTIVATION AND THE NORTH TEXAS FULL AUTHORITY PEDESTRIAN CROSSING OF BELTLINE. 
          WE'RE NEARING THE COMPLETION OF A PARK IMPACT FEE STUDY IN JULY. 
          WE BROUGHT A WORK SESSION TO COUNCIL. 
          WE'RE BRINGING A FOLLOW UP WORK SESSION ON AUGUST 13TH, AND THEN WE HOPE TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE TO BE ADOPTED IN SEPTEMBER SO WE CAN START IMPLEMENTING THAT IN OCTOBER. 
          WE ALSO ISSUED FOR CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR THE COTTON BELT BELT TRAIL, WHICH HAS BEEN COMPLETED, AND WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN AN ADDITIONAL 3.6 MILLION IN GRANT FUNDING FOR THE TRAIL. 
          UM, WE HAVE ONE SEGMENT OF THE TRAIL THAT IS CURRENTLY UNFUNDED NOW OUT OF THE, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 20 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS. 
          AND, UM, I KNOW THAT WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT WE ARE A FINALIST IN BEING CONSIDERED FOR THAT FUNDING, BUT WE HAVEN'T NOTIFIED THAT WE RECEIVED THAT FUNDING YET, BUT WE'RE VERY HELPFUL. 
          AND THEN WE WORKED WITH THE ADDISON FUND DEVELOPER TO ENSURE THE SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE THREE PARK PROJECTS WITHIN THAT PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO OUR OBJECTIVES FOR 2025, UM, WE'VE ALIGNED OUR OBJECTIVES WITH THE KEY 
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FOCUS AREAS THAT WERE DEVELOPED BY COUNCIL IN THE STRATEGIC PLANNING EFFORTS THAT WE RECENTLY WENT THROUGH. 
          AND THE FIRST KFA IS MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY. 
          UM, AND THE OBJECTIVE IS TO FACILITATE BUILD OUT OF ADDISON AS A MAJOR NORTH DALLAS TRANSPORTATION PUB. 
          SO THE PROJECTS THE PARKS AND REC TEAM HAVE BEEN WORKING ON TO SUPPORT THAT OBJECTIVE IS TO MANAGE THE CONSTRUCTION OF BELTWAY BY PLAINS IN GREENSCAPE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO WE'RE ABOUT READY TO PUT THAT PROJECT OUT TO BID AND BRING A CONTRACT TO COUNCIL AND START CONSTRUCTION ON THAT. 
          AND SO FOR THIS NEXT YEAR, WE WILL MANAGE THAT PROJECT, MANAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR CORN ROAD ACTIVATION PROJECTS. 
          SO WE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL RECENTLY A SCHEMATIC DESIGN FOR THE PROJECT. 
          WE'RE FINALIZING THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN WITH SOME FEEDBACK AND THEN WE WILL BEGIN CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THAT PROJECT. 
          AND THEN C TA SET ASIDE FUNDING FOR CORN ROAD BIKE LANES AND THE NTTA PEDESTRIAN CROSSING. 
          WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK WITH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS TO PREPARE US WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A VERY STRONG GRANT APPLICATION. 
          THAT GRANT APPLICATION OPENS IN OCTOBER AND EVERYTHING HAS TO BE SUBMITTED BY DECEMBER. 
          ANOTHER KEY FOCUS AREA IS INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTENANCE. 
          UM, A STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE WAS TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN AND MAINTAIN OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN. 
          UM, AND SO OUR GOALS FOR OUR OBJECTIVES FOR FY 25 IS TO MANAGE THE INSTRUCTION OF BLADELOCK POND LINER REPLACEMENT PROJECT. 
          IF YOU REMEMBER, WE'RE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH A CONTRACTOR. 
          WE HAVE THOSE REVISED PLANS. 
          UM, WE ARE MEETING IN THE NEXT WEEK TO DISCUSS REVISED PRICING AND WE HOPE TO HAVE SOME, UM, MORE FAVORABLE PRICES BACK TO COUNCIL IN THE NEAR FUTURE. 
          AND SO WE WILL BE MANAGING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT PROJECT IN FY 25. 
          UM, ADDRESS ASSET MANAGEMENT NEEDS OF TRIVION PARK. 
          I THINK IT'S HARD FOR SOME OF US TO BELIEVE THAT TRIVION PARK IS GETTING TO THE AGE THAT SOME OF OUR ASSETS ARE NEEDING TO BE REPLACED. 
          UM, BUT WE HAVE BENCHES AND TRASH CANS AND SIGNAGE THAT ARE STARTING TO CAUSE SOME MAINTENANCE CONCERNS AND THEY'RE NEARING THAT AGE WHERE WE NEED TO REPLACE THOSE. 
          UM, WE HAVE ALSO IDENTIFIED THAT WE NEED TO REPLACE THE BRIDGE DEPUTY ON WHITE ROCK CREEK TRAIL. 
          UM, ONE OF THE BRIDGES CONTINUE TO ADDRESS AGING STREETSCAPE AND ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PAVERS THAT ARE COMING UP FROM TREE ROOTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF TREE WELLS, BUT THE EDGES OF THEM ARE STARTING TO POP UP FROM TREE ROOTS. 
          SO THERE'S SOME WORK THAT WE NEED TO COME IN TO DO TO SUPPORT THE HEALTH OF THE TREES, BUT ALSO PROVIDE A SAFE WALKING SPACE FOR PEDESTRIANS, UPDATE RESTROOMS AND THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB OUTDOOR POOL, AND THEN SECURE THE PERIMETER OF THE OUTDOOR POOL FOR THE ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          THEN ANOTHER KEY FOCUS AREA IS INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTENANCE. 
          UM, EVALUATE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT STAY TRUE WITH THE ADDISON BRAND. 
          SO OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO PRODUCE AN ORDINANCE FOR ADOPTION TO BEGIN IMPLEMENTATION AND PLANNING FOR USE OF PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT, OUR DEDICATION AND DEVELOPMENT FEES. 
          UM, AND SO Y'ALL ARE, WE'VE RECENTLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT AND WE WILL BE HAVING FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON AUGUST 13TH ABOUT THIS ITEM. 
          AND THEN FINANCIAL HEALTH AND ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE. 
          THE OBJECTIVE IS TO ATTRACT, RETAIN, AND DEVELOP TOP TIER EMPLOYEES. 
          WE WILL PLAN FOR SUCCESSION IN SUSTAINABILITY BY ENROLLING FUTURE LEADERS IN NRPA MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR AND DIRECTOR TRAINING PROGRAMS. WE WILL DEVELOP A TRAINING SERIES FOR STAFF THAT ADDRESSES THEIR NEEDS AND CONCERNS AROUND CUSTOMER SERVICE, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AND CONFLICT DEESCALATION. 
          AND THEN WE WILL CONTINUE WITH DISC LEADERSHIP TRAINING THAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTING WITH OUR STAFF. 
          AND THEN KEY FOCUS AREAS OF MIGRANT ACTIVE COMMUNITY. 
          THE OBJECTIVE IS TO EXTEND THE RESIDENT AND VISITOR EXPERIENCE BY ACTIVATING OUR COMMUNITY PARKS AND TALENT ASSETS. 
          AND SO OUR OBJECTIVES ARE TO DEVELOP IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR THE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK VISION PLAN. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA WORK ON WRAPPING THAT PLAN UP NEAR THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          UM, BUT THEN WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN AND HOW TO ACHIEVE IT. 
          SO THAT WILL BE OUR FOCUS FOR THIS NEXT YEAR. 
          WE ALSO HAVE A FOCUS AROUND BRINGING BACK HOLIDAY LIVEING TO ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT. 
          IF YOU REMEMBER, UM, THERE USED TO BE A TREE AT BECKFORD PARK THAT MAA SUPPORTED. 
          UM, AND WE WILL BRING, ACTUALLY WE BRING IN A COUNCIL ITEM ON THE 13TH COUNCIL TO DISCUSS BRINGING THAT HOLIDAY HOLIDAY TREE BACK TO THE DISTRICT ALONG WITH SOME OTHER PROGRAM ELEMENTS. 
          UM, WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND 
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PARK PROGRAMMING IN ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT TO INCLUDE A SENIOR SONGWRITER SERIES AND THEN SUPPORT THE ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION BY FACILITATING A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SURVEY TO INFORM DECISIONS MADE BY THE ARBOR FOUNDATION REGARDING OR RELATED TO THE USE OF $65,000 IN FUNDS ALLOCATED IN THE PARKS PARKS BUDGET. 
          SO THIS PREVIOUSLY WAS ALLOCATED, UM, IN THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET, AND IT HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE PARKS BUDGET ALONG WITH I THINK THE WATER TOWER AIR IS FEATURED LIKE THAT TOO. 
          ANOTHER KEY FOCUS AREA UNDER VIBRANT, UM, ACTIVE COMMUNITY IS ENHANCED ADDISON GATEWAY'S VISUAL ADHERE FILL STREET STATE TO OPTIMIZE THE ADDISON BRAND. 
          AND UNDER THAT, WE HAVE BEGAN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF TRAIL WAY FINDING AND 9 1 1 SAFETY MARKERS. 
          SO SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE HAD A CONSULTANT TO A SIGNAGE PACKAGE FOR US. 
          UM, WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT WE WILL START IMPLEMENTING THE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME IN-HOUSE DESIGN PROJECTS THAT WE'LL BEGIN THE 9 1 1 SAFETY MARKERS THIS NEXT YEAR AND THEN COMPLETE A CITYWIDE WAY FINDINGS, SIGNAGE MASTER PLAN. 
          OKAY, RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION. 
          UM, SO THIS YEAR WE'VE HAD SOME COST SAVINGS AND EFFICIENCY MEASURES AND SOME ONES THAT I WANNA SHINE A SPOTLIGHT ON IS WE CREATED A POSITION FOR A CHEMICAL APPLICATOR, UM, IN HOUSE. 
          THE REASON THAT WE DID THAT IS THE COST OF LANDSCAPE CHEMICALS WAS ESCALATING, ALMOST DOUBLING. 
          UM, AND THIS WAS WORK THAT WAS BEING HANDLED BY OUR CONTRACTORS THAT WORKED FOR US. 
          AND SO THERE WAS A MARKUP IN ADDITION TO CHEMICALS GOING UP. 
          THERE WAS A MARKUP THAT WAS HAPPENING TO THOSE PRODUCTS. 
          ON TOP OF THAT, THE APPLICATION RATE AND THE TIMING OF WHEN YOU PUT THOSE CHEMICALS DOWN IS EXTREMELY SENSITIVE. 
          AND WE DID NOT CONTROL THAT SCHEDULE TO THE DEGREE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTROL IT. 
          UM, AND YOUR SUCCESS IS DEPENDENT ON GETTING THAT SCHEDULE RIGHT. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TAKEN AN EMPLOYEE AND WE HAVE TRAINED 'EM AND THEY HAVE GOTTEN THEIR TBA CERTIFICATION AND WE HAVE BEGUN PURCHASING OUR OWN CHEMICALS, DOING OUR OWN WORK. 
          AND WE'VE ALREADY SEEN IMPROVED EFFICIENCY FROM THIS. 
          AS WE HAVE LESS WE AND LEADS IN OUR TURF AND LANDSCAPE BEDS, IT ALLOWS US TO PUT OUR EFFORTS AND FOCUS ON OTHER THINGS. 
          AND SO WE ARE SEEING THE RESULTS OF THIS. 
          UM, WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT THAT WORK, UM, HAS SAVED US ABOUT 208 HOURS THIS YEAR WITH AN ESTIMATED COST SAVED OF $18,000. 
          UM, WE ALSO HAVE CREATED A POSITION FROM, UM, AN EXISTING EMPLOYEE THAT WE HAVE AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB WHERE THEY ARE OUR RECREATION FACILITIES LIAISON. 
          WE CONFERRED CONVERTED A FULL-TIME ASSOCIATE POSITION TO A COORDINATOR POSITION AND CREATED ADDITIONAL JOB DUTIES FOR THIS EMPLOYEE. 
          UM, THEY ARE OUR LIAISON TO GENERAL SERVICES REGARDING A C BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS. 
          AND THIS STAFF STAFF MEMBER HAS BEEN SERVING IN THIS CAPACITY FIRST AS A TRIAL RUN. 
          AND WE WERE ABLE TO SEE SOME HUGE WINS. 
          THEY HAVE A MILITARY BACKGROUND WHERE THEY WERE PERFORM THIS TYPE OF WORK AND TRAINED FOR THIS. 
          UM, THIS IS DUSTIN CAMP AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB IF YOU KNOW HIM. 
          AND SO WE SAW THAT HE COULD CLOSE THE GAP THAT GENERAL SERVICES AND PARKS AND RECS WAS STRUGGLING WITH IN RELATED TO MANAGING CONTRACTORS THAT ARE COMING IN THE BUILDING TO ADDRESS REPAIRS BECAUSE THERE NEEDED TO BE SOMEBODY ON SITE PROVIDING GOOD COMMUNICATION, KIND OF THE MIDDLE PERSON. 
          AND DUSTIN HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT FOR US. 
          UM, THEY ALSO AT TIMES HAVE PERFORMED SOME LIGHT MAINTENANCE DUTY THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF US CALLING OUT A VENDOR TO DO WORK. 
          UM, AND SO THAT'S BEEN SOME COST SAVINGS FOR US. 
          UH, BILL GAVE ME A HIGHER NUMBER AND ESTIMATED WORK HOURS SAVED BILL HOLLY OF 104, BUT I WANTED TO BE A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE, LET US GET A WHOLE YEAR UNDER OUR BELT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THIS NEXT YEAR. 
          SO WE'VE ESTIMATED THAT WE HAD A COST SAVINGS OF ABOUT $10,000, UM, AND WE'VE INCREASED OUR RESPONSE TIME ABOUT FOUR HOURS A WEEK TO THOSE TICKETS THAT WE GET. 
          UM, ANOTHER EFFICIENCY OF MEASURE IS WE'VE TAKEN ON THE ROLE OF DOING IN-HOUSE DESIGN NOW THAT WE HAVE A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ON STAFF CHANDLER KNIGHT. 
          HE, UM, HAS BEEN DOING IN-HOUSE DESIGN PROJECTS TO REDUCE OUR COST AND CONSULTANT FEES. 
          UM, HE JUST COMPLETED PLANS FOR THE MIDWAY TRAIL OR THE REDING TRAIL EXTENSION TO MIDWAY ROAD. 
          UM, THAT PROJECT JUST WENT OUT TO BID AND WE'LL BE BRINGING A CONTRACT TO YOU, UM, I BELIEVE AT THE END OF AUGUST. 
          UM, HE ALSO HELPED SUPPORT A CONSULTANT WITH OUR AIRPORT GATEWAY SIGNAGE PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. 
          AND THEN HE, UM, DEVELOPED PLANS TO ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE CONCERNS 
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AT SCHOOL DOG PARK AND IS CURRENTLY BEGINNING TO WORK ON A PLANNING PLAN FOR THE NO NORTH TEXAS TOLLWAY. 
          UM, THE FRONTAGE ROADS WE MAINTAIN AND WE LOST A LOT OF THAT PLANT MATERIAL DURING THE FREEZE, BACK TO BACK FREEZES THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND SO CHANDLER IS WORKING ON THOSE PLANS FOR US. 
          WE ESTIMATE THIS YEAR THE COST SAVINGS WAS ABOUT $125,000 AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT NUMBER WILL BE EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANT NEXT YEAR. 
          AND THEN THE DECISION PACKAGES THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED THIS YEAR ON THE PARK SIDE. 
          SO WE'VE GOT TWO SIDES, PARKS AND REC, BUT ON THE PARK SIDE IS ASSET MANAGEMENT NEEDS. 
          SO THAT LIST OF ASSET MANAGEMENT THAT WE KNOCKED OUT THIS YEAR, UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT SAME AMOUNT. 
          UM, ALSO GOING INTO FY 25. 
          AND I'VE GOT A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THOSE ITEMS ARE THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT. 
          UM, AWAY FINDINGS, SIGNAGE MASTER PLAN. 
          UM, WE'RE TRYING TO GET A HOLD AHEAD OF THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN. 
          THIS IS A COMPONENT OF THAT IS DISCUSSING OUR WAY FINDING. 
          UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE BRINGING A MASTER PLAN, UM, ELEMENT TO THAT FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          AND THEN A LOCAL TRAIL CONNECTION IN PARK SCHEMATIC DESIGN UNDER MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY. 
          AND, AND THAT IS TO CREATE A TRAIL CORRIDOR FOR, FROM MONFORT ROAD ALL THE WAY OVER TO WHITE ROCKER WYNWOOD PARK AND THEN CONNECT INTO WHITE ROCK CREEK TRAIL. 
          SO FOR ASSET MANAGEMENT NEEDS, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT PROACTIVELY MANAGES, UM, OUR NEEDS RELATED TO SITE AMENITIES BY REPAIRING OR REPLACING OVER THE UPCOMING YEARS. 
          WE HAVE 4,200 ASSETS WITH PARK STREET SPACE RUNWAYS AND UNIFICATION AREAS. 
          UM, $2.6 MILLION IN PARK ASSETS OR IDENTIFIED IN THE ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN AS IN MEDIUM OR HIGH RISK. 
          IF YOU REMEMBER, THE ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN KIND OF CATEGORIZED EVERYTHING GREEN, YELLOW, RED. 
          UM, THERE'S 11 MILLION PARK ASSETS THAT ARE EXPECTED TO BE REPLACED OR REHABED WITHIN THE NEXT 10 YEARS. 
          AND THEN IN 2025, UM, WE ARE REQUESTING THE REPLACEMENT OF SITE FURNISHINGS AT THE TRIBUNE PARK AND QUA PARK, UM, REPLACING THE UPPER LIGHTS AT BLUEPRINTS, REPAIRING PAVING AT VARIOUS PARK, AND THEN REPLACING THE BRIDGE DECKING AT WHITE ROCK CREEK TRAIL. 
          UM, THIS ALIGNS WITH OUR KEY FOCUS AREAS OF INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTENANCE. 
          UM, AND OUR STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN AND MAINTAIN OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN. 
          AND THAT IS $196,000 IS OUR REQUEST. 
          UM, WE HAVE A LIST THAT GOES OUT ABOUT 10 YEARS OF WHAT OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT NEEDS ARE. 
          UM, THIS IS SHOWING YOU YEAR TWO OUT OF YEAR FIVE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH LAST YEAR. 
          THE ONE THING I WILL TELL YOU WE HAVE, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE STREETSCAPE FOLLOWERS ON WHI PLACE. 
          THAT COMPANY THAT CREATED THOSE HAS GONE OUT OF THE BUSINESS AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND SOMEBODY TO CUSTOM MAKE THAT EXACT BALLER FOR US THAT FITS IN THE SLEEVE THAT'S IN THE PAVING. 
          SO THAT ONE'S BEEN A CHALLENGE FOR US. 
          THE OTHERS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY ADDRESS, UM, THIS NEXT YEAR WHAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT IS TRASH RECEPTACLES. 
          UM, AT THE TRU PARK, A LOT OF OUR TRASH RECEPTACLES GET A LOT OF ABUSE FROM DOGS AND SO WE'RE STARTING TO GIVE RID OUR TRASH RECEPTACLES TO CONCRETE THAT, UM, WILL HOLD UP A LITTLE BIT BETTER FROM THAT. 
          WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT REPLACING SOME OF THE DIMENSIONS THAT ARE AT THE TRIVION PARK AND THE DRINKING FOUNTAINS. 
          UM, THERE'S 38 UPLIGHTS AT BLUEPRINTS THAT, UM, FREQUENTLY GO OUT ON US AND THEY HAVE AGED TO THE POINT. 
          UM, THAT'S HARD FOR US TO FIND PARTS. 
          AND SO THOSE NEED TO BE REPLACED. 
          UM, AND THEN AS I MENTIONED THE PAPER REPAIR ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT, UM, THIS IS OUR MOST CRITICAL AREA. 
          UH, WE COULD SPEND $196,000 ALONE ON P REPAIR AT ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT. 
          UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL SEE IN FUTURE YEARS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          UM, WE ALSO WILL REPLACE THE TRASH RECEPTACLES AND DRINKING FOUNTAINS AT CORUM PARK. 
          AND THEN, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE WHITE ROCK CREEK TRAIL BRIDGE DECK IS WHAT IS ON OUR LIST FOR FY 25. 
          WE, WE ARE ALSO REQUESTING, I, I HAVE HERE $248,900 IN FUNDS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA LOWER THAT NUMBER A LITTLE BIT TO CREATE A WAY FINDING SIGNAGE MASTER PLAN. 
          SO THIS IS TO HIRE A CONSULTANT THAT WILL DEVELOP THE MASTER PLAN THAT WILL INCLUDE SIGN DESIGN CONCEPTS, ASSIGNED TYPE ARRAY, SIGN SPECIFICATIONS SO WE CAN CONSTRUCT AND INSTALL THE SIGNS. 
          UM, WE TOOK OUT DESIGNING A GATEWAY MONUMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE A REALLY NICE PROTOTYPE TO USE, UM, IN SOME 
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LOCATIONS THAT WILL NOT FIT EVERY AREA AND WE MAY HAVE TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT SHAPE, BUT WE WILL DO THAT ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS. 
          AND BY DOING THAT WE KNOCKED ABOUT 20 TO $25,000 OFF THE PRICE THAT'S LISTED DOWN HERE. 
          UM, BUT CONSULTANT WILL LOCATE THE SIGN LOCATIONS FOR US OF WHERE THEY NEED TO GO. 
          UM, THEY WILL CREATE A MESSAGE SCHEDULE FOR THE SIGNAGE, UM, AND PROVIDE PLANNING LEVEL LOCATION PLAN, AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. 
          THEN ALSO INCLUDE DISTRICT IDENTIFICATION AND SIGNAGE WHERE NEEDED. 
          AND JEN, IF I COULD JUST, UH, JUMP IN ON THE WAY FINDING SIGNS 'CAUSE. 
          UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, THAT NUMBER IS GONNA COME DOWN BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA LEAN ON WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE FOR MONUMENT SIGNS AND HAVE SOME COMPONENT, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA LOOK TO REPLACE ALL OF OUR MONUMENT SIGNS, BUT IT IS A LARGE AMOUNT AND WE THINK ABOUT WAY BUYING SIGNS IT, IT KIND OF CAN JUST RATIONALIZE WHY IT COSTS THAT IS YOU REALLY COME UP WITH THAT, THAT FEEL FOR THE ENTIRE TOWN AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT A NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES DO, THEY'LL COME UP WITH MULTIPLE DESIGNS AND HAVE VARIOUS FORMS FOR COMMUNITY INPUT TO SAY WHAT IS THE DESIGN THAT WE WANT? SO THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO COMING UP WITH WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          SO IT IS A PRETTY DETAILED PROCESS. 
          I'M SURE JANET COULD GO INTO MORE DETAIL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT IT DOES TAKE A LOT AND YOU DO WANNA MAKE SURE YOU, YOU COME UP WITH WHAT THAT INSTEAD YOU WANT FOR THE TOWN IS, UM, AND YOU WANNA MAKE SURE YOU DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. 
          SO JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, AND THEN OUR FINAL DECISION PACKAGE ON THE PARK SIDE IS LOCAL TRAIL CONNECTION AND PARK MATIC DESIGN. 
          UM, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE ENGAGE IN A  PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT TO CONDUCT A HIGH LEVEL FEASIBILITY STUDY AND CONCEPTUAL DESIGN FOR A SHARED USE TRAIL AND PARK IMPROVEMENTS IN EAST ADDISON FROM PRESTONWOOD POND AT EAST OF UM, MUMFORD DRIVE TO WYNWOOD PARK. 
          THIS WAS A UM, KEY PRIORITY TRAIL SEGMENT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN OUR TRAILS MASTER PLAN AS ONE OF OUR PHASE ONE TRAIL PROJECTS. 
          UM, AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE WOULD ALSO EXPLORE CONVERTING THE FINANCE PROPERTY OR A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY EITHER OR. 
          UM, IT'S, IT WILL FACILITATE THAT DISCUSSION TO A PARK TO GREEN SPACE. 
          UM, AND IT WILL INCLUDE UPDATES TO WINDWOOD PARK THAT INCLUDE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, IRRIGATION IMPROVEMENTS AND PASSIVE PARK USE. 
          NOW I WANNA STRESS THAT THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN. 
          UM, AND GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS I WAS ASKED, WHY AREN'T WE JUST DOING CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AND ALSO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AT ONE TIME? AND FOR VERY SIMPLE PROJECTS WE CAN DO THAT. 
          A CONSULTANT KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD AND HOW MUCH TO CHARGE US FOR THE FEE FOR THE CDS. 
          BUT ON THIS PROJECT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE TRAIL'S GONNA GO. 
          WE HEARD FROM OUR RESIDENTS IN THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE TRAIL CORRIDORS THROUGH FOUR NATURAL AREAS. 
          AND WE'RE FOUR SQUARE MILES AND WE'RE VERY DENSE, WE'RE VERY BUILT OUT AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF NATURAL AREAS, BUT THERE IS A POND IN A CREEK CORRIDOR IN THIS AREA THAT PERHAPS WE UTILIZE A BOARDWALK SYSTEM IN SOME AREAS TO GIVE THAT EXPOSURE TO THAT NATURAL TRAIL SYSTEM. 
          AND SO WE NEED TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE ALIGNMENT WOULD GO AND IF WE ARE GOING TO UM, CONVERT PART OF THE FINANCE PROPERTY TO HOUSING MISALIGNMENT AND IF THERE'S A PART ELEMENT THERE. 
          UM, SO THIS STUDY NEEDS TO BE DONE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DEVELOPING CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR. 
          AND THEN THIS MOVES US TO THE RECREATION SIDE. 
          WE HAVE TWO DECISION PACKAGE REQUESTS. 
          ONE OF THEM IS TO INSTALL A PUBLIC ADDRESS AND MUSIC SYSTEM. 
          IF YOU REMEMBER WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST YEAR AS A DECISION PACKAGE ITEM. 
          WHEN WE DID THE RENOVATION FOR THE ADDISON ATHLETIC LOG IN THE FITNESS WING, THERE WAS A DESK ON THE UPPER LEVEL THAT HOUSED ALL OF THE SOUND EQUIPMENT AND WE WERE CONVERTING THAT SPACE TO FITNESS SPACE AND RELOCATE OR REMOVING THAT DESK. 
          AND IN DOING SO, WE HAD TO REMOVE THE SOUND EQUIPMENT WHICH HAD BECOME OBSOLETE AND WE DID NOT PUT IT BACK. 
          UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE ATHLETIC CLUB WITH THEIR OWN PERSONAL DEVICE OF MUSIC, AUDIO BOOKS, SHOWS THAT SEEM TO BE THE NORM. 
          UM, THAT MUSIC WASN'T NEEDED. 
          BUT WE HAVE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE SOME BACKGROUND NOISE COME BACK. 
          UM, LAST YEAR THERE WAS A DISCUSSION. 
          WE WERE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING BOATS AND GETTING A VERY FIRM NUMBER. 
          I THINK WHAT WE ASKED FOR WAS LIKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          AND SO WE WERE ABLE THIS YEAR TO WORK WITH THE IT DEPARTMENT TO COME UP WITH A REALLY GOOD PLAN ON HOW TO INSTALL THE EQUIPMENT. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE A QUOTE OF $80,000 FROM A VENDOR. 
          WE WILL ALSO USE THIS AS A PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEM. 
          SO WE ARE CLOSING THE BUILDING. 
          UM, WE CAN MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT OR IF THERE IS A WEATHER ALERT OUTSIDE AND WE NEED TO ASK OUR MEMBERS TO TAKE 
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COVER, WE CAN SPEAK TO EVERYBODY INSTANTANEOUSLY. 
          AND SO THERE'S SOME SAFETY ASPECTS OF THAT ALSO. 
          UM, AND THEN THIS LOOKS LIKE A SMALL INCREASED RECREATION PROGRAMMING OF A $2,700 COST. 
          THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME REVENUE THAT'S GONNA OFFSET PART OF OUR ASK. 
          AND SO I'LL SHOW THAT WHEN WE GET ONTO THAT CLIENT. 
          AND SO THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THAT PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEM. 
          UM, LIKE I SAID, IT ALLOWS US TO QUICKLY COMMUNICATE TO THE FACILITY AND IT PROVIDES THE MUCH REQUESTED MUSIC THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR MEMBERS THAT ARE USING THE FACILITY. 
          WE PUT ANOTHER KEY FOCUS AREA OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND THEN LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY TO ADDRESS ISSUES. 
          AND THEN THE RECREATION PROGRAMMING, WE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE RECREATION PROGRAMMING AND CAPTURE REVENUE. 
          UM, WE ARE PAID FOR THE COLLECT TRIPS THAT WE SELL AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          WE, WE RECEIVE A FEE AND IT'S BEEN GOING BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND, UM, AND ALSO CORPORATE FIELD DAY. 
          SO WE'VE NEVER FUNDED THOSE. 
          UM, WE, WE TAKE MONEY IN FOR ENTRY FEES FOR CORPORATE BILL DAY AND SPONSORSHIPS, BUT WE'VE NEVER PUT THAT MONEY BACK INTO OUR BUDGET. 
          THE REASON THAT WE DIDN'T DO THAT IS WE WANTED TO GET A TRACK RECORD OF WHAT A GOOD AVERAGE WOULD BE, WHAT WE'RE CO CONSISTENTLY DOING. 
          UM, AND SO WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR A FEW YEARS AND WE KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS. 
          AND SO WE'D LIKE TO USE THOSE FEES TO HELP FACILITATE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          UM, PARKS AND REC IS GOING TO KIND OF BE THE LEAD ON NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, ALTHOUGH IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY EVENT. 
          UM, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS HOW TO PROGRAM OUTDOOR EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES, JUST KIND OF ORGANIZING IT. 
          UM, AND SO WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT AND WE WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO FUND THAT. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO ARE GOING TO FACILITATE A SENIOR SONGWRITER NIGHT AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK. 
          THERE'S SOME SMALLER ELEMENTS IN HERE I DIDN'T LIST OFF. 
          UM, WE USED TO HAVE A POP PLOT LOOK AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB FOR OUR SENIOR THANKSGIVING AND NOW WE ACTUALLY FIGURED THAT I THINK THE PANDEMIC KIND OF CHANGED THAT PROCESS AND WE'VE NEVER PUT MONEY IN OUR BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO COVER THAT COST. 
          WE'VE JUST BEEN ABSORBING IT. 
          BUT IT LIMITS US WHEN WE NEED TO MAKE BUILDING REPAIRS. 
          AND SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TAKE THESE OTHER FINES THAT WE HAVE COMING INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND PLAN FOR IN OUR BUDGET AND THEN ALLOW US TO DO THOSE. 
          AND THEN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE, UM, WE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL UM, I THINK IN JULY, UM, THE WEST ROAD AND QUORUM BICYCLE LANES AND AN AIRPORT VIEWING AREA. 
          THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED INITIALLY IN THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN AND THEN NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS REACHED OUT TO THE TOWN AND ASKED IF THEY COULD ALSO DO A STUDY TO LOOK AT GETTING BIKE LANES TO THAT FIRST MILE LAST MILE CONNECTION FOR THE TOD UM, AND THE SILVER LINE STATION. 
          AND SO WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD DATA INFORMATION ON THE COST OF WHAT THAT PROJECT'S GOING TO BE NOW. 
          AND SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED $2.1 MILLION. 
          THERE'S ALSO SOME GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'LL GET INTO UM, WHEN WE DIVE DEEPER INTO THIS. 
          AND THEN THE ADDISON, A RELAY CLUB, OUTDOOR POOL, RESTROOMS AND PERIMETER FENCING. 
          WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME FUNDS TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS. 
          SO THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION FOR THE BIKE LANES IS TO UM, ENGAGE IN PROFESSIONAL SERVICE. 
          SO THIS YEAR WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT ENGAGING IN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO JUST DEVELOP CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, UM, TO CONSTRUCT THAT PROJECT. 
          UM, AS I MENTIONED, THIS WAS SUPPORTED BY THE PROS PLAN AND THE CITYWIDE TRAIL'S MASTER PLAN. 
          AND THEN IT WAS FURTHER SUPPORTED BY STUDIES THAT COG HAS BEEN DOING. 
          SO FOR FY 25 WE ARE ASKING FOR $563,900 FOR THE DESIGN PORTION OF THE PROJECT TO BEGIN UP TO IMPLEMENT IT. 
          WE ALSO ARE APPLYING FOR A TA SET ASIDE GRANT, THE ONE THAT I MENTIONED. 
          UM, THAT OPENS IN OCTOBER THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING TURNED IN BY DECEMBER. 
          IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN RECEIVING FUNDS FOR THAT IS APRIL MATCH. 
          AND SO THIS WOULD HELP WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THIS SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE LOCAL MATCH AND THE GRANT FUND, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. 
          AND THEN THIS GIVES SOME CROSS SECTIONS OF WHAT THAT CAN LOOK LIKE. 
          WE'VE TAKEN THIS OUT OF THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE TO COUNCIL EARLIER IN THE YEAR, UM, THAT SHOWS ON WEST GROVE. 
          WE WOULD HAVE A TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK THAT WOULD BE ON THE AIRPORT SIDE, WEST GROVE. 
          UM, WHEN YOU CROSS ADDISON ROAD, THE CYCLE TRACK WOULD CROSS OVER TO THE NORTH SIDE AND THEN IT WOULD ALSO CONNECT INTO QUORUM. 
          UM, IF YOU REMEMBER QUORUM WAS THE ONE THAT WE SHOWED THE BENCHMARK 
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PROJECT AT THE INDIANAPOLIS CULTURAL TRAIL AND HOW THAT PROJECT LED TO A LOT OF ADDITIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, UM, WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          AND THIS IS JUST SOME ADDITIONAL CROSS SECTIONS OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE. 
          AND THEN AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB, UM, THE OUTDOOR POOL, UM, RESTROOM IS IN NEED OF BEING REVAMPED. 
          IT NEEDS TO HAVE NEW FIXTURES, NEW LIGHTS, UM, NEW SURFACING THAT'S SLIP RESISTANT, UM, NEW STALLS PUT IN. 
          UM, AND SO THIS INCLUDES FUNDS TO DO THE DESIGN FOR THAT. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A SAFETY ISSUE ON THE PERIMETER FENCE OF THE OUTDOOR POOL. 
          UM, ANNUALLY, UH, WE GET SOME TEENAGERS THAT JUMP OVER INTO THE POOL BECAUSE THERE'S SOME AREAS ALONG THE READY TRAIL AND BACK BY THE FIRE STATION WHERE IT'S NOT A BIG REACH  TO GET OVER THAT FENCE AND GET INTO THE POOL. 
          UM, MOST OF THE TIME IT'S A HARMLESS, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO SWIM, BUT THERE HAS BEEN SOME MINOR, UM, BISM TO THAT AREA. 
          AND FOR BOTH OF THOSE REGIONS WE NEED TO PUT A STILL PIVOT ON TOP OF THAT MAC FENCE AND BETTER SECURE IT. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AND FY 25 WOULD JUST BE TO DO THE DESIGN, THE INSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THAT FENCING AND FOR THE RESTROOM RENOVATIONS, UM, THAT'S $60,000. 
          AND THEN IN FY 26 WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR FUNDS, UM, TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT AND DO INSTRUCTION ON THE PROJECT. 
          AND HERE'S A PICTURE OF THOSE RESTROOMS AND YOU HAVEN'T BEEN A VISITOR OF THE OUTDOOR POOL. 
          UM, THEY REALLY ARE IN NEED OF BEING REPAIRED. 
          BUT I THINK WHEN WE ALSO REDID THE LOCKER ROOMS, THE INDOOR INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, WE MADE THIS LOOK, UM, TO OUR USERS EVEN WORSE THAN IT WAS IN AGE REALLY QUICKLY HAVING THAT NEW RENOVATION PROJECT DONE. 
          AND THEN THIS SHOWS YOU SOME OF THE STRUGGLES THAT WE'RE HAVING UM, WITH IT AREAS. 
          UM, THIS ONE LIKE LITTLE LOW CONCRETE WALLS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH. 
          AND THEN THE  THAT PEOPLE CLIMB OVER. 
          UM, WITH THAT  WE'VE GOT A BIG YEAR PLAN FOR PARKS AND REC AND FY 25 AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TONIGHT. 
          Y'ALL ARE GONNA BE BUSY. 
          THOSE QUESTIONS FOR JENNA? I'VE GOT A COUPLE. 
          CAN YOU GO BACK ON THAT LAST ONE? I WAS CONFUSED ON THE WALL. 
          UM, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOME METAL FENCING ON TOP OF THAT? SURE. 
          SO WE DO WANNA REPLACE THIS METAL FENCING WITH A LITTLE MORE UPDATED, BUT WE WOULD TAKE A SIMILAR PRODUCT THAT IS ABOUT 24 TO 36 INCHES TALL AND PUT IT ON TOP OF THE MACE RAIN FENCE THAT'S THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND UM, ON THE, ON THE WAVE FINDING MASTER PLAN, UM, WOULD WE BE USING THAT? CAN YOU SEE US USING THAT UH, OVER TIME TO UPDATE OUR VARIOUS OLD YES. 
          OLDER TOWN OF ADDISON MONUMENT SIGNS THAT ARE ALL OVER ALL OVER TOWN? YES. 
          UM, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT LOOKING AT UPDATING THE BRAKE SIGNS TO MORE ALIGN WITH THE NEW SIGN THAT WE INSTALLED, THE DEVELOP LINE 1.5 PROJECT. 
          BUT OTHER THINGS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT IS THE DISTRICT SIGNAGE THAT WE USE IN THE ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE ROBUST. 
          UM, WHAT WE HAVE HERE COULD BE AN INSPIRATION FOR WHAT WE WANNA START DOING. 
          SO I'M NOT SAYING WE CAN WIPE THE SLATE CLEAN 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE DID REALLY WELL. 
          UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME THINGS LIKE WATER TOWER THEATER THAT DOESN'T GIVE US ANY CREDIT, UM, FOR BEING OUR THEATER. 
          AND SO THIS WILL PROVIDE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO TALK ABOUT THE NOMENCLATURE THAT WE'RE USING ON THAT SIGNAGE AND WHAT WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ON THIS UH, WEST GROVE AND FORUM BICYCLE LANES, YOU'VE GOT THIS, UH, AIRPORT VIEWING AREA. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. 
          DO WE, DO WE KNOW WHERE THAT MIGHT BE? SO ORIGINALLY WE MAY HAVE TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL COORDINATION WITH THE AIRPORT. 
          UM, THE ORIGINAL PLANS CALLED OUT FOR IT TO BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SERVICE CENTER. 
          UM, IF YOU EVER DRIVE DOWN AN AIRPORT OR WEST GROVE, YOU'LL SEE QUITE FREQUENTLY THAT THERE'S PEOPLE WITH CAMERAS THAT ARE PARKED SOMEWHERE ALONG WEST GROVE THAT ARE TRYING TO TAKE PHOTOS OF THE AIRPLANES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, AND SO THERE'S A LITTLE AREA THERE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT COULD BE A PULL OFF FROM THE BIKE LANES THAT WOULD BE THAT HUMANE STATION. 
          UM, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE AIRPORT'S STRUGGLING THROUGH WHERE THE LOCATED YOUTH FUEL FARM AND THAT IS ONE OF THE LOCATIONS THAT THAT COULD GO. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE PARTS OF THIS PROCESS IS TO 
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FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT VIEWING STATION COULD BE. 
          COULD IT BE AT ARAPAHOE PARK? IT COULD BE AT ARAPAHOE PARK. 
          YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET AS UP CLOSE WITH THE AIRPLANES AS YOU COULD OVER HERE. 
          UM, BUT ARAPAHOE PARK, YOU COULD DO SOMETHING KIND OF SIMILAR TO DFW AIRPORT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THEIR VIEWING STATION WHERE YOU CAN HEAR THE RADIO CONTROL TOWER SPEAKING. 
          SO THEY'VE GOT SPEAKERS, UM, THEY HAVE BINOCULARS THAT YOU CAN SEE THE PLANES AND THEY'VE GOT SOME SHADE AND SOME SEATING. 
          AND SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE AROUND THE PARK THAT WE COULD DO. 
          IT JUST IS GONNA REQUIRE, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF VIEWING FOR THE AIRPLANES. 
          YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE AS CLOSE TO OUR MISSION, BUT AT WEST GROVE. 
          YEAH, I WAS JUST THINKING WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THOSE ELEMENTS ALREADY. 
          IT DEPENDS WHAT YOU KNOW, WHICH WAY THEY'RE TAKING OFF, WHICH WAY THEY'RE LANDING, BUT UM, THAT'S A GREAT, THAT'S A GREAT VIEWING AREA WE BUILT IN SEATING AND SO FORTH. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S, THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          UM, ON THE UH, CHEMICAL APPLICATOR POSITION SLIDE YES. 
          SO THE COST SAVINGS OF $18,000 IN THAT, THAT MANY HOURS, IS THAT A TOTAL OFFSET INCLUDING THE PHYSICIAN AND UM, THE CONTRACTOR COSTS THE PRODUCT ALL THAT TOGETHER? OR IS THAT JUST A SA OR WAS THAT A SAVINGS OF THE WORK FOR NOT HAVING TO MAINTAIN THE GROUNDS, UH, WEEDS AND SUCH? THAT IS THE SAVINGS THAT WE'RE ESTIMATING FROM NOT HAVING TO MAINTAIN THE WEEDS. 
          WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT SIX MONTHS UNDER OUR BELT OF DISPOSITION AND SO WE WOULD NEXT YEAR DO A DEEPER DIVE ON THIS IN LOOKING AT WHAT WAS OUR CHEMICAL SAVINGS COST. 
          'CAUSE WE ALSO KNOW WE'RE GONNA BUY A LITTLE MORE CHEMICAL NOW THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY ROUTINELY DOING IT AND IT'S NOT A SET AMOUNT IN CONTRACT. 
          UM, AND SO WE WANT ANOTHER YEAR UNDER OUR BELT TO COME BACK WITH ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. 
          SO THIS IS A VERY CONSERVATIVE VIEW OF WHAT OUR SAVINGS IS. 
          SO ON THE POSITION THAT WAS CREATED AND ALL, ALL IN ASIDE FROM THE 208 HOURS, IS THERE A COST SAVINGS BY ADDING THAT POSITION AND ELIMINATING THE CONTRACTOR COST? THERE IS A COST SAVINGS FROM THAT BECAUSE WE EXCLUDED THE CHEMICALS FROM OUR CONTRACT THAT WE BID, BUT IT'S NOT ONE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO LOOK AT A NUMBER AND SEE BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER, WE REBID THAT CONTRACT AND BECAUSE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE WENT UP SO HIGH, WE HAD A HUGE INCREASE IN THAT. 
          BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS IT WOULD'VE BEEN EVEN A MORE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IF WE HADN'T PULLED THE CHEMICALS OUT OF THAT CONTRACT. 
          SO THIS WAS PART OF THAT LANDSCAPER CHANGE ALSO? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          DO YOU, SO THERE, THERE WOULD BE A, A COST SAVINGS BY INSOURCING THAT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          A QUESTION. 
          SURE. 
          THERE WAS A SLIDE THAT SAID IT'S 564,000 FOR DESIGN, THE DESIGN OF THE BIKE LANES. 
          YES. 
          HAVEN'T WE ALREADY DESIGNED THEM? IS THAT NOT ALREADY DONE OR? SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE ON THE BIKE LANES IS ON THE CORN ROAD PROJECT THAT IS SOUTH OF, OR ACTUALLY FROM THE DART STATION SOUTH. 
          WE HAVE DESIGNED THAT AND THAT IS IN THE BOND FUNDS THAT WE'RE BUILDING, BUT FROM THE DART STATION NORTH ALL THE WAY TO WEST GROVE AND THEN THE WEST GROVE BIKE LANES, WE HAVE NOT DESIGNED THOSE. 
          WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE THAT COG, UM, AT THEIR, ON THEIR OWN DIME DID SCHEMATIC DESIGN FOR US ON THOSE PROJECTS. 
          THE REASON THAT THEY DID THAT IS TO SET US UP IN A VERY GOOD WAY TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR GRANT FUNDING. 
          UM, BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE A STRONG ALIGNMENT. 
          WE HAVE SOME STRONG PLANS AND GOOD COST ESTIMATES TO BE ABLE TO INCLUDE IN THAT. 
          UM, BUT IT'S NOT DESIGNED, UM, IT'S, SO WE WILL HAVE TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THOSE PROJECTS AND THAT'S WHAT THOSE FUNDS FOR. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S THAT EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT. 
          YES. 
          I DUNNO, IT INVOLVES, UM, TO SURVEYS. 
          IT INVOLVES GEOTECHNICAL SURVEYS. 
          IT INVOLVES HAVING AN ENGINEER, UM, MULTIPLE ENGINEERS AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS WORKING ON A SET OF PLANS THAT ARE VERY DETAILED BECAUSE WE ARE GOING INTO A VERY DENSE, BUILT OUT URBAN ENVIRONMENT THAT HAS A LOT OF EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE ARE IMPACTING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND IF WE DON'T MAKE PLANS FOR HOW WE'RE GONNA IMPACT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, WE WILL END UP PAYING MORE MONEY IN THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE OF IT. 
          AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF INVESTIGATION, UM, AND A LOT OF ADDRESSING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS IN THIS PLANS. 
          SO DO WE, IS THE 5 64 PART OF THE BOND PROGRAM OR WHERE 
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DOES THAT MONEY COME FROM? THAT THAT ACTUALLY IS NOT PART OF THE BOND PROGRAM. 
          UM, IT WAS IDENTIFIED IN OUR TRAILS MASTER PLAN PROJECT, WHICH THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN WAS DONE AFTER THE BOND PROGRAM, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, IT WAS WRAPPING UP ABOUT THAT TIME, SO IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE BOND PROGRAM. 
          SO WHERE WOULD THE MONEY COME FROM? WE ARE PLANNING ON TAKING THE SUPPORT THAT THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS GAVE US AND CREATING SCHEMATIC DESIGN IN THE COST ESTIMATES AND LEVERAGING THAT TO APPLY FOR A TA SET ASIDE GRANT. 
          THAT WILL NOT REFUND US. 
          UM, I BELIEVE THAT WILL NOT REFUND US FROM MONEY THAT WE SPEND ON DESIGN WORK UP FRONT, BUT IT WILL BUILD THE, THE PROJECT FOR US. 
          AND SO WE DO, WE WILL SPEND SOME MONEY IN HOPES OF GETTING GRANT FUNDS THAT WILL CONSTRUCT A PROJECT. 
          SO WE SPEND OUR MONEY ON THE DESIGN AND THE GRANT MONEY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. 
          CORRECT. 
          I HAVE A SIMPLE QUESTION. 
          HOWARD, WERE YOU DONE? YEAH, THAT WAS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          DID ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE DARREN GOES AGAIN. 
          I'VE GOT SOMETHING. 
          UM, JUST YOUR PLAN FOR THE PERIMETER FENCING, UM, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THAT? THERE'S 60,000 FOR, UM, FISCAL YEAR 25 AND THEN CONSTRUCTION IN 26. 
          SO THAT 60,000, WILL THAT GET US THE PERIMETER FENCING THIS YEAR OR ARE YOU PROPOSING WAITING UNTIL 26? SO THAT 60,000 GETS US THE DESIGN, UM, WHICH IS MOSTLY FOR THE RESTROOMS REDESIGNING THE RESTROOMS. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DESIGN WORK FOR DEVELOPING THAT DETAIL OF WHAT GOES ON TOP OF THE FENCE AND HOW IT CONNECTS. 
          BUT THE MAJORITY OF THAT DESIGN IS FOR THE RESTROOMS. AND SO IT WILL HAPPEN THE NEXT YEAR. 
          AND ARE WE OKAY WAITING? I MEAN, IF IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE OR A VANDALISM ISSUE, I MEAN, SHOULD WE TRY TO FIT IT IN THIS YEAR? THE FENCING WE COULD PROVIDE, UM, THAT INFORMATION. 
          IN FACT, I COULD TRY TO GET SOME NUMBERS TOGETHER, UM, BY TOMORROW. 
          UM, 'CAUSE IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE THING FOR US TO COME UP WITH AN ESTIMATE FOR. 
          SO WE COULD PROVIDE THAT TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION AND WE COULD DO THAT AS A SEPARATE PROJECT. 
          I MEAN, ONLY IF YOU THINK IT'S NECESSARY, BUT YOU SORT OF OF GOT MY ATTENTION WHEN YOU SAID THERE WERE PEOPLE HOPPING THE FENCE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I, IT, IT CONCERNS US WHEN YOU, UM, PUT CHILDREN IN A POOL WITHOUT LIFEGUARDS AFTER HOURS. 
          UM, THERE IS SOME RISK THERE AND THE FACT THAT WE KNOW THAT IT'S HAPPENED MORE THAN ONE TIME. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, AND SO THE MOST CAUTIOUS THING WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE FENCING FOR THAT. 
          I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT THE NUMBER IS AND IF, IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO FIT IT IN THIS YEAR, I'LL PULL THAT TOGETHER FOR YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN I JUMP IN REAL QUICK ON, ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? DO, DO WE SEE THAT ON VIDEO? IS THAT HOW WE KNOW THAT? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I I'M ALL FOR WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING. 
          THANK YOU DARREN. 
          SO JUST SIMPLE TA UM, LIKE TA SET ASIDE. 
          WHAT DOES TA STAND FOR? TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES. 
          IT'S A FUNDING MECHANISM THROUGH, UM, TEXT FUNDS. 
          OKAY. 
          HEY, JENNY, YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR, UH, ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR THIS YEAR ABOUT THE, THE GRANTS FUNDING FOR THE TOTTEN BELT TRIAL. 
          WHERE DID THAT GRANT COME FROM? SO WE HAVE TWO GRANTS. 
          ONE WAS LIKE 16 POINT, AND I, IT'S REALLY COMPLICATED. 
          SO LET ME MAKE SURE I DON'T MIX THESE UP. 
          ONE OF 'EM WAS FOR LIKE $16.2 MILLION THAT CAME FROM THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS FOR 3.8 MILLION OR THE 3.6 THAT CAME FROM, I BELIEVE, UM, TECH SPOT. 
          BUT IT WAS APPLIED ON BEHALF OF CO ON OUR BEHALF. 
          SO WE PROVIDED THE SUPPORT AND ALL THE DOCUMENTATION, BUT THEY SUBMITTED THAT ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER REGIONAL TRAIL PROJECTS ON THE COTTON BELT BECAUSE IT WAS A STRONGER, STRONGER APPLICATION BY SUBMITTING IT COMBINED WITH THE OTHER CITY. 
          SO, SO THE COTTON BELT TRAIL ARE, ARE WE, ARE WE GONNA BE SPENDING MUCH OF OUR OWN MONEY ON THAT OR IS IT MOSTLY OUTSIDE FUNDS? SO THE TRAIL ITSELF, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THE TRAIL SYSTEM COMPLETELY FUNDED. 
          IF WE GET THIS LAST GRAND REQUEST FUNDED, UM, THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR OF THE TRAIL IN THE BRIDGE WILL BE FUNDED. 
          WHAT IS NOT FUNDED IS THE PART OF THE TRAIL THAT MAKES IT ADDISON. 
          SO THE TREES, THE LANDSCAPING, THE LIGHTING, THE SEATING, THE SIGNAGE, THE PUBLIC ART, NONE OF THAT'S FUNDED. 
          NONE OF THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNED. 
          UM, AND SO KNOW THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING A PROJECT AT SOME POINT, UM, TO DO THAT DESIGN WORK AND ALSO FUND THAT. 
          UH, THERE ARE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO TRY TO GET FUNDS FOR THAT. 
          UM, BUT 
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I, WE'VE LEARNED FROM THE AGENCIES THAT ARE FUNDING THIS, GETTING THAT, UM, CORRIDOR. 
          SO THE CONCRETE PATH BUILT IS THEIR FIRST PRIORITY. 
          THE AMENITIES ARE NOT, UM, THERE ARE ALSO, IF WE IMPLEMENT OUR PARK, UH, DEDICATION AND DEVELOPMENT FEE PROGRAM, WE MAY HAVE SOME FUNDS THROUGH THAT TO BE ABLE TO ADD THESE AMENITIES IN. 
          AND SO WE WILL BE LOOKING, UM, FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, PERHAPS DALLAS COUNTY CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US ON THAT. 
          THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE I KNOW WE DO WANT, LIKE, LIKE WE DO ALL OF ADDISON, WE WANNA MAKE IT A VERY APPARENT WHEN YOU'VE GOTTEN TO THE ADDISON PORTION OF THAT, OF THAT TRAIL, RIGHT? YES. 
          GREAT. 
          AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE, YOU'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, UH, LIGHTING AND THE LIGHTS, THE HOLIDAY LIGHTS IN THE CIRCLE DISTRICT HERE AND CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING AND, UM, BECAUSE THAT WAS, THAT WAS A GREAT TIME IN THE PAST. 
          SO DO WE INTEND TO ACTIVATE THE BECKER PARK AREA ANYMORE? WE DON'T REALLY. 
          WE USED TO DO A FAIR AMOUNT OVER THERE, BUT NOT TOO MUCH ANYMORE. 
          WHAT? SO ONE OF OUR STRUGGLES WITH BECKER PARK, UM, IS THE FACT THAT IT'S KIND OF A DOG PARK FOR A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THERE. 
          AND WE HAVE TRIED TO ACTIVATE IT FOR LIKE OUTDOOR YOGA. 
          UM, BUT WHEN PEOPLE ARE TAKING THEIR PETS TO USE THAT LAWN, WE START TO HAVE SOME CONFLICTS OVER THERE. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WHERE OUR FOCUS IS, IS ON THE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK AND ACTIVATING THAT. 
          BUT WE DID HEAR SOME THINGS THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS PEOPLE LOVED THE MOVIE NIGHT THAT THEY USED TO DO AT BECKER PARK, UM, AND SOME OF THOSE SMALLER EVENTS THAT HAD THAT COMMUNITY FEEL TO IT. 
          AND SO THOSE WILL BE THE THINGS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IMPLEMENTING AS WE START TALKING ABOUT THE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK VISION PLAN. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE IT, IT WAS THE MOVIE NIGHTS AND THEN FOR A WHILE WE DID CONCERTS IN THAT PARK OVER THERE AND ON, ON SATURDAY NIGHTS THAT REALLY FELT VERY SMALL TOWN WHERE PEOPLE WERE BRINGING THEIR COOLERS AND THEIR BLANKETS. 
          AND IT JUST REALLY FELT LIKE ADDISON TO ME. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS AND OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS THEY WANNA BRING BACK THAT CHARM, UM, THAT WE USED TO HAVE TO THE DISTRICT. 
          UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WON'T SEE OPPORTUNITIES TO USE BECK PARK, BUT RIGHT NOW, UM, IT'S, THERE'S SOME STRUGGLES THERE WITH IT. 
          SO WE'D LIKE TO GET ADDISON CIRCLE PARK ACTIVATED AND MOVING FORWARD AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT BRANCHING OUT THROUGH THE DISTRICT. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS . 
          YEAH. 
          UM, YOU, MARY, YOU MADE ME THINK OF A QUESTION ON THE COTTON BELT TRAIL. 
          IS THAT WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT? THE COTTON BELT TRAIL? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, DID ON THE FUNDING, YOU THINK THAT INCLUDES, UH, UNDERGROUNDING OF THE POWER LINES, OR IS THAT WE NOT SURE ABOUT THAT YET. 
          SO I WAS ABLE TO CONFIRM WITH, UM, I THINK I HAD SENT SOME COMMUNICATION FROM CO AND DART THAT THEY ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH ENCORE RIGHT NOW TO BE ABLE TO UNDERGROUND THAT. 
          SO IT'S JUST THE AREA WHERE THE BRIDGE IS, IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. 
          UM, AND THE PLAN IS, IS TO FUND THAT. 
          NOW, SOMETIMES WHEN THEY FINALLY GET THAT LAST NUMBER, IT COSTS MORE THAN WHAT THEY HAD BUDGETED, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT. 
          AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WE NEED THAT FOR THE, FOR US TO HAVE THAT SPACE FOR THE BRIDGE. 
          RIGHT? IT HAS TO HAVE THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE. 
          IT'S NOT ENOUGH SEPARATION BETWEEN THOSE OVERHEAD LINES AND THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, JEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          WHO'S THAT NEXT? ABBY? GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL. 
          ABBY MORALES, DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEATER. 
          UM, WE'LL START WITH THE SPECIAL EVENTS SIDE, UM, AND WE'LL LOOK AT OUR MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND OBJECTIVES FOR, UM, FISCAL YEAR 24 AND YOU LOOKING 25. 
          UM, WE REFRESHED AND EXPANDED OUR ADDISON FESTIVALS BY WAY OF INNOVATION AND PROGRAMMING, AND YOU ATTENDED HOLIDAY IN THE PARK. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF TRANSFORMATION THAT HAPPENED WITH THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN IF YOU WERE ABLE TO BE OUT AT TASTE, UM, WE EXPANDED THE ACTION FESTIVAL OUTSIDE OF JUST THAT WEEKEND, UM, AS WELL AS THE COMPLETE TRANSFORMATION OF THE PARK ON THE GROUNDS AS WELL. 
          UM, WE ARE ENHANCED THE BRANDING IMPACT OF OUR ADDISON EVENTS BY ADDING A LOT OF THOSE EXPERIENCES, WHICH ALLOWED US TO EXPAND OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH THOSE BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND CORPORATE SECTOR. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO, UM, WORKED WITH MARKETING TO CREATE OUR STANDALONE SOCIAL PLATFORMS FOR EACH OF THE EVENTS. 
          AS WE LOOK AHEAD TO 25, UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO DRIVE ADDISON AS A DESTINATION AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO IMPACT THE TRANSFORMATIONAL GROWTH OF OUR EVENTS BY CONTINUING TO INCREASE OUR PARTNERSHIPS. 
          WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO, UM, CONTINUE TO BE INNOVATIVE. 
          WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND 
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OUR EVENTS BEYOND JUST THAT FESTIVAL WEEKEND WITH BOTH PRE EVENTS AND POST EVENTS THAT WILL TIE IN UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THOSE SIGNATURE EVENTS. 
          AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO DEVELOP A TRUE FUL VOLUNTEER PROGRAM. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION, UM, WE PROVIDED OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR SEASONAL EMPLOYEES. 
          THESE ARE OUR PARKS AND REC, UM, SEASONAL EMPLOYEES THAT INCLUDE OUR SUMMER DAY CAMP STAFF AS WELL AS OUR LIFEGUARDS. 
          UM, HOW THAT IMPACTS, UM, OUR BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THEY COME AT A LOWER PAY RATE, UM, AND THEN SOME OF OUR STAFFS THAT WE PAY, UM, AS FAR AS OVERTIME GOES, WE ALSO HAVE, ARE, HAVE INCREASED OUR VOLUNTEER AND CORPORATE ENGAGEMENT, WHICH IMPACTS, UM, OUR OVERTIME. 
          UM, AS WELL AS ALLOWS US TO GROW THE EVENTS, UM, IN A WAY THAT, UM, ALSO ALLOWS US TO CREATE FINANCIAL OPPORTUNITIES LATER ON DOWN THE LINE. 
          UM, THE ACTUAL SAVINGS WILL BE, UH, TO BE DETERMINED AFTER THIS COMPLETE FULL EVENT CYCLE, WE TRANSITIONED OUR DIRECT PAYMENTS OF OUR INTERNAL FEES ON THE BACKEND. 
          UM, FOR OUR SPONSORS THAT PARTICIPATE IN ALL OF OUR EVENTS THAT HAVE ANY KIND OF FOOD OR BEVERAGE PRODUCT, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN A HEALTH PERMIT AND THEY DO PAY FOR THE HEALTH HEALTH PERMIT AS PART OF YOUR SPONSORSHIP PARTNERSHIP WITH US. 
          THE TOWN ACTUALLY PAYS FOR THAT HEALTH PERMIT. 
          AND SO JUST ON THE BACK END, WE WORK WITH FINANCE TO NOT DIRECTLY PAY THOSE, BUT JUST HAVE THE TRANSITION OF THE FUNDS ON THE BACK END. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT EVENT EXPENDITURES, UM, EACH OF OUR, OUR BIG TICKET ITEMS, WHETHER IT'S ELECTRIC TENT, FENCING, UM, RESTROOMS, ALL OF THOSE GO TO BID AND GET APPROVED, UM, THROUGH COUNCIL. 
          AND WE ARE UNDER CONTRACT WITH ALL OF 'EM THAT PROVIDE THE SERVICES TO US. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, JUST THE COST OF LIVING HAS GONE UP JUST TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE. 
          EVENTS ARE NOT IMMUNE TO THAT. 
          SO ALL OF OUR COSTS HAVE GONE UP AS WELL. 
          WHILE WE ARE UNDER CONTRACT WITH A LOT OF THESE CONTRACTORS, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEMS. THE MOST RECENT EXAMPLE THAT I CAN GIVE YOU IS WITH REGARDS TO CAB TOWN. 
          WE ARE UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE VENDOR THAT GOT THE BID FOR ELECTRIC. 
          THEY PROVIDE ALL OF THE TEMPORARY ELECTRIC THAT'S OUT IN SITE WHEN WE'RE PRODUCING AN EVENT FOR KAO TOWN. 
          THAT CONTRACT INCLUDES LIGHT TOWERS. 
          WHAT WE DID IS WE LOOKED AT THAT INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEM FOR THOSE LIGHT TOWERS AND LEARNED THAT THERE WAS A DOLLAR AMOUNT, I'M GONNA SAY $10,000. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO GO TO ANOTHER VENDOR AND SOURCE JUST THE LIGHT TOWERS, NOT THE ENTIRE SCOPE OF WORK, JUST THAT ONE LINE ITEM. 
          AND WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE $7,000. 
          NOW WHILE THAT IS A SAVINGS, WHAT WE DID WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU SAW, IT COULD TOWN, THERE WAS A BRAND NEW STAGE. 
          WELL, THE STAGE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD ANY BANNERS OR SIGNAGE BECAUSE THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY BUDGETED IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK THAT SAVINGS AND REINVESTED IT INTO KABOOM TOWN AND PAID FOR THE BANNER PACKAGE THAT YOU SAW ON THE STAGE. 
          SO STILL A COST SAVINGS BUT NOT A COST SAVINGS WHERE WE SAVED THE MONEY AND, AND STOCKPILING, WE'RE REINVESTING IT SO THAT YOU DON'T SEE AN INCREASE EXPENDITURE ITEM ON THAT LINE ITEM. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR ALL OF THE EVENT EXPENDITURES THAT WE HAVE. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT REDUCING THE TOWN INVESTMENT BY WAY OF REVENUE GENERATION. 
          AND SO WHILE WE ARE KEEPING AN EYE ON WHAT THOSE EXPENDITURES ARE, WE'RE REALLY, WE REALLY HAVE A BIG FOCUS ON THE REVENUE SIDE. 
          UM, SEVENTH YEAR, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL SUMMARY OF EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL EVENTS. 
          YOU'LL SEE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THAT. 
          UM, THIS IS TASTE ABSENT. 
          YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR OVERALL EXPENDITURES, UM, AN INCREASE IN THAT WITH THE TRANSITION THAT WE DID TO BOTH THE FOOTPRINT, THE EVENT EXPERIENCES THAT YOU SAW ON THE GROUNDS. 
          UM, AND A LOT OF THOSE THINGS THERE IS A SLIGHT INCREASE IN EXPENDITURES, BUT YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE REVENUE AS WELL. 
          OUR SPONSORSHIPS, UM, DOLLARS WILL INCREASE AS WE CREATE ADDITIONAL EXPERIENCES. 
          UM, AND THEN A LOT OF THE PAID EXPERIENCES THAT WE ADDED ON THE GROUND, UM, EVEN WITH MOTHER NATURE THIS PAST YEAR, WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THAT OUR FINANCIAL LEVEL WAS ABOUT THE SAME AS IT WAS LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE ENHANCED EXPERIENCES THAT WE ADDED. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT  TOWN, YOU'LL SEE, UM, THAT EXPENDITURES, UM, WILL SOMEWHAT GO DOWN. 
          IT IS A SIX HOUR EVENT FOR US, AND SO IT DOESN'T HAVE SOME OF THE HIGHER COST ITEMS THAT THE MULTI-DAY EVENTS TAB. 
          UM, BUT YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT THE REVENUE THAT WE ARE GENERATING WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE AS WE LOOK AT WAYS TO, UM, ENHANCE THIS EVENT. 
          UM, BY CHARGING FOR ADMISSION TICKETS THIS PAST YEAR, WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY INCREASE OUR, OUR TICKET REDEMPTION, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST AREAS OF CHALLENGE. 
          WE HAD ALL OF THESE TICKETS THAT WERE SENT OUT, BUT OUR REDEMPTION RATE WAS ABOUT 30%. 
          BY CHARGING A NOMINAL FEE FOR ADMISSION, WE WERE ABLE TO SEE, UH, ABOUT A 73% TICKET REDEMPTION RATE. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHEN YOU'LL SEE THE IMPACT WITH  TOWN WITH REGARDS TO REVENUE. 
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AND THEN OCTOBERFEST IS TO CHROME, AND YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THAT THIS YEAR. 
          WE WILL CHANGE AND MODIFY, UM, SOME OF THE ACTIVATIONS THAT YOU SEE OUT THERE. 
          THERE WILL BE A BIG PUSH, UM, AROUND OUR CORPORATE PARTNERS AND WHAT WE DO WITH THEM. 
          UM, AND SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THAT IN EACH OF THESE. 
          UM, YOU SEE THAT THE, THE TOTAL INVESTMENT FOR THE TOWN CONTINUES TO GO DOWN, WHICH IS . 
          OKAY. 
          JUST MAKE A COMMENT AT THIS POINT. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN ABBY STARTED GETTING THROUGH THE BUDGET YEAR LAST YEAR, ONE OF THE GOALS THAT THAT I GAVE HER WAS TO LOOK AT THAT BOTTOM LINE ON EACH OF THE, OF THE BIG THREE EVENTS. 
          AND I THINK YOU SEE THAT EACH ONE OF THOSE, THE BOTTOM LINE, THAT INVESTMENT HAS DECREASED FROM WHAT WAS ON TELEPHONE THAT'S ON THE TOWN. 
          AND I THINK I PERSONALLY THINK SHE'S DONE THAT WHILE MAKING TWO DAY EVENTS BETTER. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S A CREDIT TO ABBY AND UM, CERTAINLY THANKFUL FOR ALL THE WORK THAT SHE DID TO GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED. 
          I'D LIKE THAT. 
          I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE'RE WE'RE FOCUSED ON THAT AND TALKING ABOUT IT AND UM, SURE, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT HAPPEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'RE CERTAINLY WORKING ON THAT. 
          WE LOOK AT OUR AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY, SPONSORSHIPS AND PARTNERSHIPS CONTINUE TO BE A NUMBER ONE AREA OF FOCUS FOR US. 
          UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CORPORATE ENTITIES THAT WANT TO GIVE BACK AND BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY, AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE GREAT EVENTS TO BUILD UPON, UM, EACH OF THOSE. 
          AND WHILE THOSE LEAD TO FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS, SOMETIMES COMPANIES AREN'T NECESSARILY READY TO WRITE A CHECK NECESSARILY, AND IT KIND OF LEADS INTO OUR SECOND OPPORTUNITY, WHICH IS VOLUNTEERS. 
          AND THE TWO OF THESE WORK HAND IN HAND. 
          SOMETIMES YOU'RE TALKING TO A COMPANY AND THEY'RE READY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A FORCE THAT WANTS TO COME OUT AND BE A PART OF THE EVENT AND GIVE BACK, AND THEN THAT ULTIMATELY TURNS INTO A FINANCIAL IMPACT LATER ON DOWN THE LINE. 
          SO THERE ARE TWO, THOSE ARE TWO AREAS OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT OUR TEAM IS LOOKING AT. 
          UM, AS WE GO INTO THE NEXT YEAR, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT PROGRAMMING. 
          UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OFFERINGS THAT WE PROVIDE THAT SPEAK TO ALL TARGET DEMOGRAPHICS AND NOT JUST NECESSARILY ONE. 
          WE'RE OFFERING THINGS THAT SPAN THE ENTIRE DURATION OF THE HOURS THAT WE'RE OPEN. 
          AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT UTILIZING THE SPACE IN INNOVATIVE WAYS. 
          UM, THE MAP OF TASTE IS ONE OF THE PROUDER THINGS THAT I HAVE, UM, IN MY SHORT TIME HERE IN THAT WE DOUBLE THE FOOTPRINT OF THAT FESTIVAL, UM, JUST BY YOU CROSSING THE STREET AND UTILIZING THE NORTH CAMPUS THAT'S HERE ON THE GROUNDS. 
          SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON BEING INTENTIONAL AROUND OUR PROGRAMMING TO, TO US WITH DRIVING REVENUE, UM, AND THEN CREATING THOSE EXPERIENCES, NOT JUST PROVIDING THESE THE TRADITIONAL MUSIC, FOOD AND FUN, BUT ACTUALLY CREATING EXPERIENCES THAT SPEAK TO PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND OFFERING DIVERSE OFFERING. 
          QUESTION SPECIAL. 
          HE'S GOT QUESTIONS FOR ABBY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          JUST ONE QUICK ONE ON KABOOM TOWN. 
          WAS WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE SOLD TICKETS FOR THE FOR ADMISSION FARM? YES SIR. 
          SO IS IT BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ESTIMATED JUST REVENUE NUMBER THAT THAT HASN'T SHOWN UP? OR IS THAT, WAS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU THINK THE NUMBER'S GONNA BE? UM, THAT IS AN ESTIMATE BASED ON, A LITTLE BIT, BASED ON WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR. 
          UM, WE, UH, WE HAVE IDEAS ON HOW TO MAXIMIZE ATTENDANCE, BUT JUST BASED ON OUR PUBLIC SAFETY NUMBER AND JUST BARE CODES, THAT IS AN ESTIMATE THAT, ARE YOU PLANNING TO KEEP THAT AT THE SAME SAME TICKET PRICE THOUGH? YES, SIR. 
          WE DO BELIEVE THAT IF WE CAN KEEP IT JUST IN LINE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE DO, UM, IT JUST KIND OF MAKES SENSE FOR OUR OVERALL BRAND. 
          YOU HAVE SOME DARREN, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT ON THE EVENTS, UH, LIKE MARLIN HAD POINTED OUT AS FAR AS OUR, OUR INVESTMENT, UH, BOTTOM LINE INVESTMENT DECREASING, UH, I LIKE TO SEE THAT WE'RE INCREASING THE TOP LINE REVENUE. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S A BETTER WAY TO, UH, MAKE THOSE EVENTS. 
          WE'RE STILL MAKING THE INVESTMENT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, UH, IT'S LESS OF, UH, OF THE IMPACT. 
          SO KEEP THE IMPACT UP. 
          GOOD. 
          IS THERE A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CAN ATTEND LIKE KABOOM TOWN? YES, SIR. 
          SO WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH PUBLIC SAFETY ON FIGURING OUT WHAT THAT NUMBER LOOKS LIKE WITH REGARDS TO NOT JUST THE PHYSICAL FOOTPRINT, BUT ALSO IN REGARDS TO THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE ON THE GROUNDS TO SAFETY MANAGE. 
          ARE. 
          SO WHEN WE SELL TICKETS, ARE WE WE CONTROLLING THE NUMBER THAT CAN ATTEND? IS THAT YES. 
          YES. 
          THAT IS MANDATED TO ME BY PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          OKAY. 
          IF I COULD JUST MAKE ONE NOTE ON YOUR QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT ESTIMATE. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS ESTIMATE NUMBER ISN'T, THIS IS, SINCE IT HAPPENED WHILE WE WERE GOING THROUGH BUDGET, THE REVENUE WE'RE STILL SHOWING THAT 70,000. 
          WE BROUGHT IN MORE THAN A LOT MORE THAN THAT. 
          I KIND OF FIGURED THAT. 
          I, I JUST, I WAS TRYING TO DO THE MENTAL MATH. 
          I MEAN, I THOUGHT I HEARD AT SOME POINT WE SOLD 10,000 TICKETS YEAH. 
          AT LIKE 10 OR $15 A POP. 
          SO I FIGURED ALL THAT WOULD WORK OUT AND WE'D EVENTUALLY 
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SEE THAT NUMBER REFLECTED. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, ABBY, ON OUR SPECIAL EVENTS, WILL WE STILL BE USING SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES TO, TO ASSIST WITH THAT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          THAT DOESN'T GO AWAY. 
          AND I THINK THAT THAT IS SORT OF THE SIGNATURE PIECE TO THE EVENTS THAT WE OFFER. 
          UM, AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE OUR STAFF, UM, BE A PART OF. 
          UM, BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT WILL NEED TO HAPPEN OR EVEN JUST SOME OF THE SUSTAINABILITY OF WHAT WE DID JUST AT TASTE, WE WILL NEED AN EXPANDED POOL. 
          UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE VOLUNTEER PIECE COMES IN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT JUST TO COMMENT, UH, I, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE EVENTS, IT'S JUST AMAZING AND I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR, YOUR TASTE TO IT. 
          AND SPEAKING OF TASTE, AND YOU JUST SAID THE WORDS THAT WE DOUBLED THE FOOTPRINT, THAT'S WHAT IT FELT LIKE TO ME. 
          I MEAN, IT JUST FELT LIKE SUCH A MASSIVE EVENT THAT REALLY YOU HAVE TO COME FOR TWO DAYS TO, TO DO THE WHOLE THING. 
          AND SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST, THAT JUST BLEW ME AWAY HOW, HOW WE USED IT AND, AND SO THOUGHTFULLY TOO, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE COURTYARD WAS AND EVERYTHING. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST SO GREAT. 
          AND SO, UH, JUST KUDOS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM. 
          Y'ALL ARE DOING REALLY GREAT WORK, SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE FOR ABBY? THANK YOU, ABBY. 
          SHE GETS TO STAY HERE FOR ABBY. 
          UM, SO I'LL MOVE ON TO THE THEATER SIDE AND WE'LL LOOK AT OUR MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND OBJECTIVES. 
          UH, BEFORE THE THEATER, UM, WE WERE EXCITED TO SECURE ODYSSEY ASSOCIATES TO COMPLETE THE OPERATION STUDY ON THE USE OF THE FACILITY THIS PAST YEAR. 
          WE ALSO, WHILE DURING THE STUDY AND THINGS WERE A TINY BIT ON PAUSE, WE INTEGRATED THE THEATER TEAM INTO THE SPECIAL EVENTS SIDE AND REALLY HONED IN ON THEIR AREAS OF EXPERTISE. 
          YOU SAW THAT AS PART OF SILENT DISCO AND SOME OF THE OTHER AAV COMPONENTS THAT WERE PART OF TASTE THIS YEAR. 
          UM, AND WE REALLY WORKED ON STREAMLINING PROCESSES OVER ON THE THEATER SIDE WITH REGARDS TO WHAT OUR INVENTORY LOOKS LIKE. 
          UM, AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE OPERATIONS STUDIES, AS WE GO INTO NEXT YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING TO HIRE A COMPUTER MANAGER AND REALLY CREATE A BUSINESS PLAN THAT ALLOWS US TO INCREASE THE ACTIVATION BY WAY OF LIT NIGHTS OVER AT THE THEATER. 
          WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO DEVELOP ADDITIONAL PARTNERSHIPS WITH AREA ARTS ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN UTILIZING THE FACILITY AND IMPLEMENTING A LOT OF THOSE FINDINGS THAT CAME FROM THE ODYSSEY ASSOCIATES STUDY. 
          UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT BRANDING THE FACILITY AND HIGHLIGHTING AND SHOWCASING THAT, UM, AND THEN PRIORITIZING SOME OF THOSE FACILITY REPAIRS AS WE PREPARE FOR INCREASED ACTIVITY IN SPACE. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DECISION PACKAGES, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO. 
          THE FIRST ONE BEING A THEATER MANAGER. 
          THIS IS A POSITION THAT WE FOCUS SOLELY ON THE PROGRAMMING OF THAT SPACE TO ALLOW US TO INCREASE ACTIVATION. 
          UM, IT WILL HIGHLIGHT THE KEY FOCUS AREA OF THE VIBRANT ACTIVE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE THE RECURRING COSTS AS WELL AS THE ONE TIME COST THAT WOULD BE ONBOARDING THE STAFF MEMBER. 
          AND THEN OUR SECOND DECISION PACKAGE, UM, IS THE CAPITAL FUNDING. 
          THIS IS A RECURRING 30,000 THAT HAS BEEN IN THE BUDGET, UM, SINCE COVID. 
          AND THIS WAS, THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO PRIORITIZE SOME OF THOSE REPAIRS AS WE START TO SEE INCREASED ACTIVITY. 
          UM, WE CAN HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE AREAS THAT WE CAN, UM, IMPACT AS FAR AS AV WHINING, AS WELL AS FURNISHING FURNISHINGS IN THE FACILITY AS WELL. 
          WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL SUMMARY OF THE THEATER CENTER HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW, UM, THE BUDGET IS PRETTY FLAT WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT YOU SEE THE INCREASE FOR THE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE THAT WE ARE REQUESTING, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE IT UPDATES AND CHANGES THAT WILL TAKE PLACE WITH REGARDS TO THE BUDGET. 
          UM, THIS UPCOMING THIS YEAR COMING OFF OF THE STUDY, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO A LOT OF THINGS PRETTY SIMILARLY TO WHAT WE DID THIS PAST YEAR. 
          FISCAL YEAR 26, YOU'LL SEE A MORE FLUSHED OUT BUDGET THAT WILL HIGHLIGHT SOME OTHER DETAILS THAT COME, UM, FROM IMPLEMENTING WHAT WE FOUND FROM THE STUDY. 
          SOME AREAS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE THEATER. 
          UM, PROGRAMMING WILL CONTINUE TO BE AN AREA THAT WE FOCUS ON FROM THE STUDY. 
          WE LEARNED THAT 150 LIT NIGHTS IS PRETTY STANDARD IN THE INDUSTRY AND THERE WILL BE THREE COMPONENTS THAT MAKE UP THAT AREA. 
          OUR TOWN TEAM WILL BE FOCUSED ON THE TOWN CURATED PERFORMANCES AND THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE'LL LOOK TO DO. 
          UM, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE SIGNATURE EVENT THAT WHEN WE SAY THIS EVENT NO DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE SAY CAMBO TOWN. 
          THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDISON, TEXAS. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO COME UP WITH ONE OR TWO EVENTS LIKE AFTER THE THEATER THAT WHEN WE INSERT THAT EVENT, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR THEATER HERE IN ADDISON, TEXAS. 
          WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO OUR WRAPAROUND EVENTS WITH REGARDS TO OUR SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          YOU SAW THE USE OF THE FACILITY WITH TASTE TO HIGHLIGHT AND SHOWCASE THAT SPACE. 
          WE'LL LOOK, AS WE CONTINUE ON THE SPECIAL EVENTS SIDE TO BUILD OUT OUTSIDE OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE FESTIVAL FOR PRE AND POST EVENTS TO UTILIZE THE FACILITY IN SOME CAPACITY, WE'RE LOOKING TO OFFER, UH, PRESENTED PERFORMANCES. 
          AND SO TAKING THIS 
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YEAR TO KIND OF, UM, THROW SOME DARTS AT THE WALL AND SEE WHAT STICKS AND GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO TRY COMEDY, MUSIC AND DANCE AND MAKE A COMBINATION OF ALL THREE AND HIGHLIGHT THOSE, WE'LL WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO ASSIST AND SUPPORT, UM, IN ANY, UM, PROGRAMS THAT MAKE SENSE TO POSSIBLY HOST IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PARK AS WELL AS THE SWORN CAMPUS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO EXPLORING AN INCUBATOR PROGRAM. 
          WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE REGULAR USERS OF THE FACILITY AND INCUBATING THEM TO GET THEM READY TO BE IN THE MAIN STAGE SO THAT WE DO HAVE AN ACTIVATED SPACE. 
          THE OTHER TWO COMPONENTS THAT MAKE UP OUR ACTIVATION INCLUDE WATER TOWER THEATER AS WELL AS OUR ADDITIONAL RESIDENT, UM, COMPANIES AND RENTERS. 
          WE ARE REALLY LOOKING, UM, AT ESTABLISHING THAT BUSINESS PLAN THAT WILL GIVE US SOME SOLID CRITERIA TO ALLOW US TO GIVE SOME PARTNER FUNDING. 
          WE'LL BE LOOKING AT WHAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT AS WELL AS THEIR COMMUNITY IMPACT IS SO THAT WE CAN NOT ONLY ACTIVATE THE SPACE WITH REGARDS TO ALL OF THIS CRITERIA, BUT ALSO SUPPORT THE ARTS IN AN IMPACTING WAY AS WELL. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT BRANDING, WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH MARKETING, UM, AND SOME IDEAS THAT WE HAVE, UM, THAT COULD HELP DRIVE REVENUE WITH THE FACILITY. 
          WE COULD OFFER SPONSOR EVENT SPONSORED EVENTS. 
          THERE'S FOOD AND BEVERAGE OPPORTUNITIES, MERCH, TICKETING PLATFORMS, NAMING RIGHTS SEAT SPONSORS. 
          THE LIST GOES ON AND ON WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OTHER GROUPS THAT ARE IN THE FACILITY AS WELL. 
          THESE ARE JUST IDEA THOUGHT STARTERS TO KNOW THAT, TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE, UM, STARTING THIS PROCESS AS WELL. 
          AND IN OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR PARTNER FUNDING, WE ARE LOOKING FOR IT TO BE VERY SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR. 
          OUTCRY THEATER, UM, IS A REGULAR USER OF THE FACILITY AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE HISTORY OF WHAT EACH OF THE ORGANIZATIONS HAS RECEIVED. 
          WATER TOWER THEATER IS A PHENOMENAL PARTNER AND WE, WE LOOK TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH THEM IN MID WAYS, A PROFESSIONAL THEATER COMPANY. 
          UM, AND WE'VE SEEN THE FUNDING THERE. 
          AND THEN THAT LAST BIT OF PIECE IS AS WE START TO CURATE SOME OF THE PROGRAMMING AND OFFER DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, UM, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TO KIND OF COME OUR WAY, KIND OF FLUSH OUT THE AGENDA. 
          AND SO THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE BRING FORWARD AS FAR AS FUNDING FOR EACH OF THE EVENTS OR EACH OF THE ORGANIZATIONS AND LICENSE FACILITIES FOR THIS. 
          I COULD JUST MAKE ONE OH, WHICH, UH, ABBY MENTIONED, BUT WE REALLY VIEW THIS AS A TRANSITIONAL YEAR. 
          WE HAVE THE STUDY WE HAVE WHERE WE WANT TO GO AND HAVE WE LAID OUT A LOT OF THOSE GOALS THAT WE WANT TO GET TO TARGET. 
          THE THEATER MANAGER IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THAT. 
          SOMEBODY WHO CAN LEAD THAT EFFORT. 
          EVEN AS WE LOOK AT THE FUNDING FOR NEXT YEAR, IT REALLY IS THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE ON. 
          WE DON'T WANNA SEE A DROP IN WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          THIS IS THAT TRANSITION YEAR WHERE WE CAN KIND OF LOOK TO THE NEXT YEAR AND LOOK THAT PLAN FORWARD. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY THE BACKDROP OF EVERYTHING THAT . 
          AND THAT'LL TAKE THE QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          DAVID, WHO IS, WHO'S PERFORMING THAT, THAT FUNCTION RIGHT NOW? AS FAR AS THE THEATER MANAGER? ABBY, YOU'VE BEEN DOING THAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THAT'S THE WRONG PERSON. 
          . 
          UM, SO JANICE DID SOMETHING EARLIER AND, AND I'M, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT ON, ON WATER TOWER THEATER, WE MOVING THAT TO LIKE A SERVICE AGREEMENT, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING AND WE'RE DOING THE SAME WITHOUT ? YES. 
          SO ANYBODY THAT, ANY OF THE ARTS GROUPS THAT IS LOOKING FOR ANY POTENTIAL POTENTIAL FUNDING THE BUSINESS PLAN THAT HELPS US IDENTIFY WHAT OUR CRITERIA LOOKS LIKE WOULD BE TIED TO THE FUNDING. 
          SO WE COULD NOT ONLY ACTIVATE THE SPACE, BUT ALSO SUPPORT OUR ARTS GROUPS AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND TOWN CURATED PROGRAMS? I'M SORRY, COULD YOU JUST KIND OF TOUCH UPON THAT? YEAH, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING EVERYTHING FROM CONCERTS, MUSIC PERFORMANCES, COMEDY SHOWS, JUST A COMBINATION OF, OF DIFFERENT THINGS, UM, THAT WILL ALLOW US TO DRIVE ACTIVITY ON THAT MAIN STAGE. 
          UM, SOME OF THEM WILL BE INTERNAL AS FAR AS US WORKING WITH PARKS AND RECREATION TO HOST SOMETHING AND SOME OF 'EM WILL BE COMPLETELY EXTERNAL. 
          WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT WHAT HOLIDAY AT THE, AT THE ACCIDENT THEATER WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, FOR THIS COMING YEAR. 
          AND SO AS JANICE STARTS TO LOOK AT POSSIBLY DOING THE TREE LIGHTING, HOW DO WE COMPLIMENT THAT? 'CAUSE WE'RE ALREADY DRIVING AS AN, AS A DESTINATION AS PART OF THAT. 
          AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE TRIVION AS WELL, SO THAT WE'RE OFFERING A WELL BALANCED OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO COME AND ENJOY THE HOLIDAYS AND THAT MONEY'S SET ASIDE FOR THOSE, THOSE PARTIES TO DO JUST THAT. 
          AND WE MAY NOT SPEND ALL OF THAT, BUT WE KNOW THAT WE WILL NEED SOME FUNDING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UM, TO GET THAT OFF THE GROUND. 
          AND SO, AND DO WE KNOW, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF THE, WHEN THE COMPLETION OF THE THEATER STUDY MIGHT OCCUR? IT'S, IT'S COMPLETE. 
          AND SO WE ARE, WE HAVE ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS 
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FROM THAT. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TAKING THAT AND ACTUALLY DEVISING IN, UH, A BUSINESS PLAN THAT WE CAN FOLLOW. 
          SO DID WE GIVE A GRANT OF 4 25 LAST YEAR FOR OUR GALLERY THEATER? YES, SIR. 
          AND SO THAT DID INCLUDE IN KIND MATCHING, SO THE IN KIND PORTION WAS ABOUT 48, 40 9,000. 
          AND THAT WAS AN IN KIND FOR USE OF THE ACTUAL OFFICE SPACES THAT ARE IN THERE. 
          AND SO THAT 48,000 IS INCLUDED IN THAT FOR $25 AMOUNT. 
          THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS A MATCHING COMPONENT. 
          SO THEY COULD GET UP TO $150,000 IN MATCHING WHEN THEY PROVIDED, UH, DOCUMENTATION FOR THAT. 
          UM, THEY DO NOT TRADITIONALLY, AND STEVE, YOU CAN KEEP HONEST, THEY HAVE NOT TRADITIONALLY MET 150,000. 
          HAVE WE TOLD 'EM WE'RE REDUCED? YES, SIR. 
          THEY WERE. 
          YES SIR. 
          HOW WAS THEIR RESPONSE? YOU KNOW, IT WAS ACTUALLY ULTIMATELY THEY WANT THE THEATER TO BE ACTIVATED AS WELL. 
          THEY WANT IT TO BE AN ACTIVATED SPACE TO HELP DRAW VISITORS TO ADDISON. 
          UH, BUT THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY GO AWAY. 
          THEY'RE A BIG PART OF THAT. 
          THEY'RE ONE THIRD OF WHAT THE ACTIVATION OF THAT SPACE WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WE WILL STILL CONTINUE FUNDING THEM. 
          THEY'VE BEEN ALONG WITH US ON THE ENTIRE JOURNEY FROM THE START OF THE STUDY UP UNTIL NOW. 
          AND SO THEY SO THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT? YES. 
          I GUESS THEY CAN COMPLAIN. 
          NOW. 
          MY QUESTION WAS FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE 4 25. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I, I LOVE THE COMMON THEMES THAT WE'RE HEARING, YOU KNOW, GROW REVENUE, MANAGE EXPENSES. 
          UH, I, IIII LOVE IT. 
          I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTION WE NEED HEAD, UH, CONCERNING THE THEATER. 
          I THINK THE IDEA OF TRYING TO GET TO THAT 150 NIGHTS IS, YOU KNOW, I I THINK IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A, A GREAT GOAL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO ACTIVATE THE SPACE. 
          BUT MY QUESTION IS, SO AS WE'VE ENTERED INTO THIS AND WE HIRE A THEATER MANAGER, I MEAN, AT WHAT POINT CAN WE BRING IN ENTERTAINMENT AND MAYBE DO SOME SORT OF REVENUE SHARE OR WE COLLECT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF TICKET SALES AND WATCH REVENUE MAYBE GO UP EVEN MORE. 
          ARE YOU ASKING AT WHAT POINT DO WE DO THAT? IS THAT THE GOAL? ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, WHAT, BECAUSE ABSOLUTELY, AND I THINK IT CAN BE A COMBINATION OF BOTH. 
          I THINK THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER. 
          I THINK JUST LIKE WE LOOK AT THE DIVERSITY OF PROGRAMMING THAT COULD ACTUALLY WORK IN THAT SPACE, UM, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT, UM, COULD START NOW AND THAT WE'LL LOOK AT SOME OF THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT OUR PROGRAMMING LOOKS LIKE FOR THE HOLIDAY, IT'LL BE A COMBINATION OF ALL OF THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT REALLY A CONCERT THAT WE WOULD DRIVE AND WE WOULD PROMOTE AND WE WOULD MARKET AS PART OF OUR LIST OF ACTIVITIES, BUT WE WOULD CHARGE TICKETS. 
          AND SO WE WOULD GET 100% OF THAT, RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THAT'S MY POINT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I HOPE, AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE BIG OPPORTUNITY IS, IS, IS TO, IF WE'RE GONNA HIRE SOMEONE, UM, YOU KNOW, TO MANAGE THIS GO OUT AND WITH SOME ASSISTANCE, I'M SURE, BUT TRY TO FIND ACTS THAT WE THINK WE CAN BRING HERE THAT WILL ACTUALLY PUT PEOPLE IN SEATS THAT'LL, THAT'LL HELP THE THEATER BECOME, YOU KNOW, EVEN NOT PROFITABLE, BUT ALLOW US TO SEE MORE REVENUE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO, UM, IF I CAN ASK, BESIDES THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS, UH, FUNDING, WHAT IS THE MAJOR CHANGE TO THE WATER TOWER GROUP THAT THEY WILL EXPERIENCE? IS IT BASICALLY THAT THEY WON'T HAVE AS MUCH OFFICE SPACE AND WORK SPACE AND THAT SORT OF THING HERE IS THAT, IT'LL BE TWO THINGS. 
          IT'LL BE THE OFFICE SPACE AND THEN IT WILL BE THE AMOUNT OF PRODUCTION TIME, UM, IN THE ACTUAL MAIN STAGE SPACE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          AND SO THAT, THAT, THAT AMOUNT OF TIME IN MAIN STATE WILL ACTUALLY DECREASE TO ALLOW US TO PUT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IN THERE. 
          AND YOU TALKING AMOUNT OF TIME, SOME OF THAT'S JUST, UH, PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER FOR A PRODUCTION, RIGHT? MM-HMM. 
           IT'S NOT ACTUAL PRODUCTION NIGHTS. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND SO OUR SCENE SHOP THAT IS ADJACENT TO OUR MAIN STAGE, IT'S NOT QUITE LARGE ENOUGH TO ALLOW FOR CONSTRUCTION TO TAKE THE FULL CONSTRUCTION TO TAKE PLACE IN THERE FOR YOU TO THEN SLIDE OVER INTO THE MAIN STAGE WHEN IT'S TIME FOR REHEARSAL. 
          AND SO A LOT OF THAT BILL HAS ACTUALLY BEEN INSIDE OF THE MAIN STAGE. 
          SO AS SOON AS THAT BEGINS, THEN THE MAIN STAGE GOES DARK, IT'S OFF FENCE UNTIL IT'S ACTUAL PERFORMANCE TIME. 
          AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO CUT THAT TIME IN HALF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WHERE DOES THAT BILL TAKE PLACE ON THOSE LARGER PRODUCTIONS? IT WILL TAKE PLACE OFFSITE AT ANOTHER FACILITY, WHICH IS VERY COMMON. 
          AND THAT, THAT'S UP TO THE THEATER COMPANY TO DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO RIGHT NOW IT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN, IN THE SAME  IT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE MAIN STAGE. 
          ON THE MAIN STAGE. 
          HAS THERE BEEN ANY COMPENSATION FOR THE USE OF THAT SPACE? WAS THAT PART OF THE IN KIND OR WAS IT JUST THE OFFICE SPACE? 
          [01:35:01]
IT WAS THE, THE IN KIND WAS ONLY THE OFFICE SPACE. 
          UM, THEY DID GET A REDUCED RATE AS FAR AS THERE WAS AN IN KIND PIECE, UM, FOR THE RENTAL OF THE DIFFERENT SPACES. 
          SO THERE'S FLOOR ROOM THAT THEY USED FOR REHEARSAL SPACE, THE MAIN SPACE. 
          THOSE WERE ALSO, AND THOSE, THOSE WERE GIVEN TO THEM AT A REDUCED RATE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, JUST A QUESTION ON THE 23 NUMBERS OF THE 4 25. 
          SO ABOUT 50, WAS THAT IN KIND? SO IT'S DOWN TO 3 75. 
          AND THEN WHAT WAS THE MATCHING PART UP TO ONE 50. 
          SO, AND THEY DIDN'T GET ALL THE WAY UP TO ONE 50, DID THEY GET ANY OF IT? I'M SORRY? THEY DIDN'T GET ANY OF THE ONE 50 THEY REQUIRED. 
          UM, THEY, THEY'VE GOTTEN, AND THAT'S FOR THIS LIST YEAR? LET ME CHECK. 
          I I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'VE GOTTEN THE FULL ONE 50 SO FAR, UH, FOR THIS LIST. 
          OKAY. 
          IN THE LAST COUPLE OF FISCAL. 
          SO IT WAS 3 75 MINUS ONE 50 WAS THE MATCHING PART. 
          SO LIKE 2 25 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          THE ACTUAL CASH PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP WAS 2 59. 
          2 69. 
          OKAY. 
          SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ABBY, THE, FROM THE STUDY THERE, THEY PUT A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          UH, WILL YOU BE IMPLEMENTING ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS? ARE THERE THINGS THAT YOU WON'T BE DOING OR WHAT, WHERE ARE YOU WITH THAT? I THINK IT SERVES AS A REALLY GOOD GUIDELINE FOR US, UM, WITHOUT CERTAINLY MAKING IT, UM, FIT WITH OUR BRAND AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO ULTIMATELY WITH THIS SPACE. 
          UM, I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, EVERY PIECE THAT WAS TOUCHED ON, UM, THE STUDY IS BEING LOOKED AT, UM, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IMPLEMENTED AS FOUND RUN THE STUDY SPECIFICALLY. 
          AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT WHENEVER THEY GAVE THEIR PRESENTATION THAT THEY, THEY RECOMMENDED HAVING A FIXED SEATING ELEMENT. 
          ME DID. 
          AND, AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S HISTORICALLY AS LONG AS IT'S BEEN THERE, THAT'S BEEN PART OF THE, WHAT PEOPLE LOOK AT AS A REAL POSITIVE PART OF THAT THEATER SPACE IS THE FLEXIBILITY OF IT. 
          WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT AND YOUR PLANS? YOU KNOW, AS WE START TO FLUSH OUT WHAT THE INCUBATOR PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE IN ESTABLISHING SOME OF THESE PARTNERSHIPS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS I HAVE DONE EXPLORATORY MEETINGS WITH OUTSIDE GROUPS AND SOME INTERNAL GROUPS WHO HAVE BEEN REGULAR USERS. 
          I WOULD SAY THAT THE MAJORITY OF THEM FEEL LIKE A FIXED SPACE WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE. 
          UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE SPACE AND WHAT THAT OFFERS ARTISTICALLY, REALLY THAT IS DESIGNED FOR PROFESSIONAL TYPE COMPANIES THAT HAVE THE FUNDING AND RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO FLIP THE SPACE. 
          BECAUSE THEN WHAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS WHAT, WHO INCURS THE COST OF FLIPPING THE SPACE BACK TO WHAT WOULD BE A TRADITIONAL PHASE FOR ANY USER TO USE? THERE'S ALSO BEEN RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, IT IS A BLACK BOX THEATER AND SO THERE IS AN ERASE PLATFORM THAT IF WE LOOKED AT A, A FIXED, UM, CONFIGURATION OF THE SPACE, DO WE ADD A PLATFORM SO THAT IT IS A LITTLE MORE TRADITIONAL, UM, AS FAR AS ARRANGEMENT GOES. 
          SO THE ARTISTIC SIDE OF ME CAN SEE THE BENEFITS OF HAVING THE FLEXIBILITY TO KIND OF DO WHAT DO WHAT IT IS YOU WANT TO DO TO BE ABLE TO DO A THEATER AND AROUND TO BE ABLE TO DO, UM, A THRUST, UM, TYPE OF CONFIGURATION. 
          UM, THE BUSINESS SIDE OF ME SAYS IT COULD PROBABLY MAKE MORE SENSE AND WE COULD FLIP MORE GROUPS AND GET THEM IN AND OUT IF WE HAVE A STANDARD CONFIGURATION. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO JUST TRY TO FIND ANOTHER WATER TOWER THEATER? WE KEEP WATER TOWER 'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE ONE THIRD OF WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. 
          ONE THIRD OF GETTING US TO THE ONE 50, WHAT IT MAY SENSE TO TRY TO GO OUT AND FIND ANOTHER WATER TOWER THEATER. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER THIRD WOULD BE JUST THE, UM, TOWN CURATED PROGRAMS RATHER THAN WORRY ABOUT FLIPPING IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 
          SO I THINK IT COULD, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT COULD BE A STRATEGY THAT COULD WORK. 
          I THINK WHAT YOU UM, WHAT THEN I THINK THE QUESTION THAT WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DIVERSITY OF PROGRAMMING AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, DOES THAT HINDER TO US IN ANY WAY? SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT WATER TOWER, THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY DOING THEATER. 
          ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT WE HAD GOING THROUGH THE BUSINESS PLAN IS DO WE FIND AN ART RESIDENT GROUP? DO WE FIND A DANCE RESIDENT GROUP? DO WE FIND ALL OF THESE OTHER GROUPS THAT COULDN'T ACTUALLY DIVERSIFY THE PROGRAM OFFERINGS THAT WE'RE DOING? IF WE FIND ANOTHER WATER TOWER, BE IT A THEATER, DANCE ART GROUP, THEN WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMMING AND THAT'S IT. 
          THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY TAKEAWAY ON THAT. 
          BUT COULD IT BE DONE? OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE IDEA OF TELLING A GROUP THAT THEY'VE GOTTA BUILD THEIR SET OFFSITE AND THEN BRING IT ON. 
          DO YOU KNOW HOW COMMON THAT IS? BECAUSE I REMEMBER ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO SOMEHOW EXPAND OR FIND SPACE HERE TO ALLOW THEATER GROUPS TO CONSTRUCT HERE. 
          WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON THAT? 
          [01:40:01]
IT'S ACTUALLY MORE COMMON THAN NOT. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE STUDY FOUND WAS WE WERE PROBABLY ONE OF THE ONLY FACILITIES THAT WAS OFFERING THAT. 
          AND IT IS BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATIONS THAT THAT PROVIDES WHEN YOU TAKE THAT SPACE OUT OF COMMISSION FOR THAT LONG PERIOD OF TIME. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          THAT ALL YOU HAVE FOR US? I THINK SO. 
          YOU DON'T WANNA DO THE NEXT SECTION? I COULD. 
          I DON'T. 
          HOW I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU WANNA TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK? 10 MINUTES. 
          EVERYBODY ELSE COLD. 
          OKAY. 
          IT IS 6 55 IN THE HALLWAY. 
          IT'S STILL COLD. 
          WE ARE BACK. 
          SORRY, I TURNED IT UP BACK AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE READY TO HEAR FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          CHIEF FREEZE. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. 
          COUNCIL CHRIS, FREE CHIEF OF POLICE. 
          UH, FIRST START THE PRESENTATION. 
          WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT OUR BIGGER ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND OBJECTIVE. 
          UH, LOOKING BACK AT MARCH 24, UH, WE LAUNCHED THE AS POLICE REPORTING ONLINE. 
          THIS IS THE ONLINE SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS OUR CITIZENS TO DIRECTLY REPORT AN OFFENSE. 
          UM, AND WE REPORT, UH, SOMETHING WE KNOW. 
          THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT IF YOU STILL HAVE AN OFFICER RESPOND TO YOU, SO YOU WANT TO HAVE OFFICER MATT STILL HAVE THAT OPTION. 
          THIS IS JUST ANOTHER OPTION YOU HAVE. 
          AND GO ONLINE, TAKE THE INFORMATION AND GENERATE THAT REPORT. 
          IT STILL GOES THROUGH THE NORMAL CHAINS, SO IT REQUIRES A DETECTIVE TO LOOK INTO IT. 
          THEY STILL GET THAT INFORMATION, IT'S STILL INVESTIGATED, WHICH JUST ALLOWS AN OPTION FOR ASSISTANCE TO KIND OF GET THAT INSTANT FEEDBACK AND GET THAT REPORT. 
          DON DEVELOP A RESPONSE TO ADDRESS AN INCREASE IN, UH, MOTOR VEHICLE TESTS. 
          UH, WORKED OUR WITH OUR CRIME ANALYSIS, JUST LOOKED AT DATA OPTION, KNOW DATA POINTS OF, HEY, WHAT'S THE BIGGEST TIME TODAY DAYS OF LEASE WE BEEN GETTING HIT AND WE ALLOCATED RESOURCES SPECIFIC TO THAT. 
          WE SAW PRETTY DECREASE IN THOSE SPECIFIC PROPERTY CRIMES AND THOSE MOTOR VEHICLE TESTS. 
          WE ON, UH, WE COMPLETED OUR FIRST ANNUAL MENTAL HEALTH WELLNESS CHECK IN FOR THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF OUR STAFF TO GO ABLE AND SPEAK WITH THE PROVIDER AND JUST HAVE THAT TIME TO JUST CHECK IN ON THEIR, THEIR MENTAL HEALTH. 
          UM, AND IF ANY FOLLOW UP SERVICES WERE NEEDED PROGRAM, UM, OUR FIRST, UH, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH METRO CRE SERVICES AND INTERNAL, UH, STAFF TEAMS TO ADDRESS  IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, THIS IS A BIG UNDERTAKING AND IT'S WHAT WE DID. 
          WE LOOKED AT MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH, UM, WORKING WITH OTHER INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS TO SEE HOW CAN WE ADDRESS THE UPTAKE IN OUR HOMELESS. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THAT ENFORCEMENT ASPECT, UM, BUT HOW CAN WE, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE THE WAYS WE RESPOND? WE CAN GET RESOURCES TO THESE INDIVIDUALS AND JUST LOOK AT IT AS A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH INSTEAD OF JUST A ONE DIRECT APPROACH. 
          UM, AND WE'VE HAD SOME PRETTY GOOD SUCCESS WITH THAT. 
          UH, CONTINUE TRAINING CURRICULUMS AS POLICE OFFICERS BETTER EXCEEDING ALL NATIONALS AND STATE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS. 
          UH, AND THEN CONTINUE OUR REGIONAL PARTNERSHIPS AND TRAINING RE FLOOD CITIES. 
          AND WHAT, UM, I THINK THE ISSUE OBVIOUS SEEN IN THE PAST IS THAT WE'RE ALSO STARTING TO PARTNER A COLLABORATIVE  COMMUNITY. 
          UM, THEY JUST, UM, STOOD UP THEIR MOTORCYCLE. 
          AND SO SOME OF OUR PROGRAM GUYS, THEY ALONG OUR SHARED ORDERS, KIND SHOVEL THE ROPES, BROUGHT SOME ADDITIONAL TRAINING, HOW WE LIKE TO DO THINGS. 
          SO JUST CONTINUE WITH THAT PARTNERSHIP. 
          UM, SOME OBJECTIVES GOING FORWARD WHEN ENHANCE RECRUITING EFFORTS REMAIN COMPETITIVE TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN QUALITY EMPLOYEES. 
          WE CONTINUE MORE JOB CAREERS GOING INTO POLICE IES WHERE OFFICERS MIGHT TO CERTIFIED GETTING IN FRONT OF THEM BEFORE THEY HAVE IN PLACE TO CALL HOME. 
          KIND OF PINCH OUR DEPARTMENT KIND SHOW THEM OUR GOAL TRUTH KIND, BRING THEM WORK, TRY TO FOCUS ON CERTIFIED OFFICERS, UH, KEEN TO BUILD MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS PROGRAM EMPLOYEES. 
          CONTINUE ON THE WORK WE'VE ALREADY DONE, INCLUDING TRAINING FROM FIRST LINE SUPERVISORS, BEEN RECENTLY PROMOTED, HAVING BEEN GO SPEAK PROVIDER AND JUST TALK ABOUT HEY, STRESS TECHNIQUES, YOU KNOW, HOW TO MAKE THAT JUMP FROM OFFICER TO FIRST LINE SUPERVISOR. 
          HOW DO YOU NEED MITIGATE CERTAIN THINGS? JUST GIVE 'EM SOME TOOLS FOR SUCCESS. 
          UM, UH, ENHANCED QUALITY TRAINING. 
          MY, UH, BEST CONDITIONAL RESOURCE AND SHARP DEVELOPMENT LAW ENFORCEMENT'S CONSTANTLY EVOLVING. 
          SO WE ALWAYS WANNA STAY RISK OF THAT. 
          MAKING SURE THAT OUR, UM, TRAINING OFFICERS HAVE THE MOST UP TO DATE  TACTICS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL TRAINING, MAKING SURE THEY'RE, UM, WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. 
          THAT WAY THEY CAN COME BACK AND BRING THAT TRAINING TO OUR OFFICERS. 
          THINK THE LEFT SYSTEM TO STREAMLINE PROCESS, DOCUMENT MANAGEMENT FOR TRAINING, INTERNAL AFFAIRS FORCE REPORTING. 
          THIS IS JUST AN ONLINE PORTAL. 
          WE CAN COME IN, HAVE A ONE STOP FOR ALL OUR, UH, COMMUNICATION EFFORTS AND DOCUMENTATION, UH, WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO JUST EVERYTHING BEING SO SILO AND SEGMENT, EXCEL SPREADSHEETS, JUST LEVERAGING TECHNOLOGY, HOW TO GETTING UP TO DATE, UM, WHERE WE KIND OF LIKED IN THE PAST. 
          UH, IMPLEMENT APPROPRIATE RECOMMENDATION FROM A PUBLIC STAFFING, STAFFING, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY STAFFING ASSESSMENT WITH MATRIX CONSULTING. 
          UM, JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THAT TIME ON REPORT, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR PROJECTED STAFFING, UH, WHERE WE NEED TO BE IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO LOOKING AT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE PLAN SAYING, HEY, 
          [01:45:01]
THIS IS WHERE WE SEE WHERE WE NEED TO GO INSTEAD, UH, COMPLETE BUILD OUT DEPLOYMENT WITH OUR NEW PATROL FLEET. 
          UH, WE JUST GOT DAY TO DAY LAST FIVE UNITS HAVE BEEN, UH, DELIVERED TO OUR CONSIDER. 
          UM, AND SO THEY'RE JUST WAITING ON A FEW MORE COMPONENTS TO START THE BUILD PROCESS. 
          WE SHOULDN'T BE GETTING THOSE COMING WHOLE TIME. 
          UH, STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROGRAMS. BUILD SHARP RELATIONS WITH OUR COMMUNITY STATE. 
          WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT IN THE CITY MAKING, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE PUT A FOCUS ON IS, IS REALLY STRENGTHENING THAT, UH, OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS, GETTING, UH, MORE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, ATTENDING BOARD MEETINGS, REACHING OUT TO OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS, UH, AND JUST BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, UH, OUR, UH, THEN CONTINUE TO LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY CULTURE OF SAFETY EFFICIENCY. 
          UH, THAT'S JUST LOOKING AT OUR LPR CAMERAS. 
          TRY TO ENHANCE THAT NETWORK, LOOK AT A FLOCK, UM, SEE IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THERE WHERE WE CAN MAXIMIZE DRIVE OUR RESOURCES TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN BE EVERYWHERE ONCE, HOW CAN WE LOOK AT, UM, TECHNOLOGY, LEVERAGE THAT SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE. 
          LOOKING AT OUR RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION, UM, GOING BACK TO THE ACCIDENT, FISH REPORTING ONLINE. 
          UM, SO WE'RE BEGINNING UTILIZING THIS LOT CITIZENS TO SELF REPORT CERTAIN CRIMES AND CAN REPORT FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES RIGHT AWAY. 
          UM, WE GET ABOUT 35 REPORTS EACH MONTH SITTING ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF CONTROLS TIME. 
          AND THIS IS A VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVE, UH, ESTIMATE OF $28,000 WE SAVED. 
          WE BASE THAT OFF OF JUST ENTRY LEVEL OFFICERS HOURLY RATE. 
          UH, IF THEY WERE GONNA TAKE THAT REPORT, SPEND AN HOUR AND A HALF, HOW WOULD THAT COME OUT TO ME? SINCE WE IMPLEMENTED THIS IN OCTOBER 20, UH, 23, WE'VE TAKEN 511 ONLINE REPORTS. 
          IT'S SAVED ABOUT 766 HOURS. 
          SO THOSE ARE POWERS NOW THAT OUR OFFICERS CAN BE ON THE STREET RESPONDING TO THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, BEING PROACTIVE IN THEIR APPROACH. 
          UM,  THAT YOU'RE NOT SITTING THERE TAKING, AND LIKE I SAID, A VERY CONSERVATIVE, UH, ESTIMATION OF THOUSAND DURING OUR DECISION PACKAGES. 
          FIRST ONES ARE OFFICER IN CHARGE, PAYER OIC PAY. 
          UH, THIS FUNDING WOULD SERVE TO INCREASE THE PAY, BUT OFFICERS IN CHARGE, UH, THIS AMOUNT HASN'T BEEN INCREASED SINCE 2016. 
          UH, OIC SERVED AS THE FIELD AND SUPERVISORS AND SERGEANTS ARE NOT PRESENT DURING VACATION TRAINING AND VACATION. 
          UH, ADDITIONALLY, OICS ARE SENIOR OFFICERS THAT ASSIST IN, UH, STARTING TRAINING 20 OFFICERS, PUTTING IN THE KEY FOCUS HERE IN PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO CONTINUE TO RETAIN RECRUITMENT TRAINING QUALITY EMPLOYEES, AND WE HAVE SOME, UH, THIS IS A RECURRING, UM, EXPENDITURE OF 14,000, UH, $400. 
          BASICALLY, WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO INCREASE OUR MONTHLY SNIP FOR OUR OAS FOR $300. 
          UM, THEY FILL IN ON THE SUPERVISOR E BUT THEY'RE ALSO MORE SENIOR OFFICERS. 
          AND SO OUR YOUNG OFFICERS GO TO THEM GOING DIRECTLY WITH THE SERGEANT. 
          THEY'RE ON THE SHIFT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE ON THE STREET. 
          THEY RESPONDING TO CALLS. 
          WE LIKE TO, THEY, THEY'RE THOSE OFFICERS THAT WE SEE KIND OF LIKE A LEADERSHIP ACT LIKE THIS IS THE FIRST LINE OF THIS. 
          EVENTUALLY GET OUT THERE. 
          FIRST LINE SUPERVIS LOOKING TO INCREASE THE , UH, FIELD TRAINING OFFICER PAY. 
          UH, THIS FUNDING WOULD SERVED AN INCREASE. 
          THE PAPER FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS, THIS IS TIME'S NOT AN INCREASE SINCE 2009. 
          UH, FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS CONDUCT ON JOB TRAINING FOR NEW POLICE OFFICERS BEFORE THEY WERE RELEASED TO WORK ON THEIR OWN. 
          UM, FTOS ARE FORMER LEADERS, HEAVILY INFLUENCE THE CULTURE. 
          THE ORGANIZATION, AGAIN, LOOKING AT A KEY FOCUS HERE IN PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          UH, THIS IS FROM RECURRING COSTS OF $10,000 RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, OUR FTOS GET $2 AN HOUR OF ADDITIONAL. 
          WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE THAT TO $4 NOW WHILE THEIR TRAINING. 
          AND THAT'S JUST AGAIN, REWARDING THOSE OFFICERS AND WHO SHOWN LEADERSHIP CAPABILITIES, ASKING THEM DO MORE THAN THOSE UNIFORM LEADERS IN THE ORGANIZATION. 
          THEY HAVEN'T SEEN AN INCREASE IN. 
          IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO, AGAIN, JUST REMAIN COMPETITIVE AND TO OUR, UH, FINALLY LOOKING COMMUNITY OUTREACH. 
          UH, SO THIS FUNDING WOULD CERTAINLY ESTABLISH A BUDGET FOR POLICE COMMUNITY OUTREACH EFFORTS. 
          UH, THIS SOLIDIFY OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH COMMUNITY TO RESOURCE PLAN AGAINST OR POLICE TO ENGAGE AND BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 
          UH, KEY FOCUS AREAS IS GONNA COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          UH, THIS IS A RECURRING TIME. 
          UM, WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT OUR GOLDEN PD TO ENHANCE OUR COMMUNITY . 
          UM, ONE THING ESPECIALLY, WE WANT TO GET MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVED. 
          THIS IS JUST DISTINCT FOR THAT. 
          WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO COME OUT AND GET WITH OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS, START DOING PROPER MENTION TIPS AND NOT TO CREATE A WHOLE ANOTHER POSITION WHERE OFFICER, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DEDICATING TO DO. 
          GOING OUT THERE, BEING ONE, UM, TALKING WITH HOA ASSOCIATIONS, TALKING WITH BUSINESSES, JUST GOING OUT AND JUST BUILDING THAT BRIDGE  SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THAT WAY THAT'S THERE'S DEDICATED, THEIR DEDICATED PURPOSE. 
          UH, SO AGAIN, COMING OUT GENERAL FUND BE ME TO PREPARE CONS 10,000 PROVIDE, I KNOW THAT WAS BRIEF, BUT THAT'LL TAKE ALL THE QUESTION, THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          UM, LIKE YOU MENTIONED THE, THE FTO INCREASE IN THE OIC, SO THAT'S JUST WHEN, THAT'S JUST AN INCREASE 
          [01:50:01]
WHEN THEY'RE PERFORMING THOSE ADDITIONAL DUTIES, IS THAT YEAH, SO THE FTO GETS AN INCREASE WHEN THEY'RE TRAINING SOME MONEY OICS. 
          THAT'S THEIR ADDITIONAL, THEY'RE ALWAYS AN OFFICER IN CHARGE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE A RECURRING . 
          AND THE MDOS IS ONLY WHEN THEY'RE TRAINING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          THANKS. 
          BUT THAT 14,400 IS MONTHLY, IS THAT RIGHT? NO, THAT'S FOR THE YEAR. 
          FOR THE YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WHAT'S THE STATUS ON THE, THE REPORTING TO THE PUBLIC, UH, AS FAR AS THE POLICE, UH, STATISTICS AND, UH, METRICS AND SUCH? COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? UH, REPORTING, PUBLIC REPORTING FOR, UH, WHAT, UH, THE POLICE ACTIVITY, METRICS, CRIMES AND SO ON. 
          WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT? WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT AS FAR AS LIKE ONLINE MAPPING SYSTEMS? UH, IT, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS, UH, AN EFFORT TO MAKE THAT MORE VISIBLE AND I JUST WAS LOOKING FORWARD WHEN I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT. 
          ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CRIME? THE CRIME MAPPING? SO SOMETHING COMMUNITY CRIME MAPS NOT ACCURATE, RIGHT? LIKE THAT'S IT'S DIFFERENT DEAL. 
          OTHERS YOU WANT TO GO? YEAH, WELL WE GOT THE MAP BACK. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE BACK. 
          WE HAVE THE MAP UP AND YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE MAP WAS UP THAT'S UP. 
          BUT YOUR QUESTION, WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S QUESTION OR MAY APPROACH IT QUESTION IS, UM, SAYING WE WERE, WE WERE, WE WERE DISCUSSING TRYING TO HELP WITH A NEW WAIT IF REPORT THAT, THAT WE'RE HAVING THE STAFF WORK ON. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SPEAK TO THAT OR IF THAT'S JUST AN ISSUE THAT WE HAD IN TWO, THREE YEARS. 
          YEAH, SO I, FROM WHAT RECALL, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE DATA COMING OVER TO OUR ONLINE, UH, CRIME MAPPING APPLICATION THAT WE HAD THAT HAS BEEN FIXED. 
          WE'RE ALSO LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, GI IS SOFTWARE WHERE WE CAN DIRECTLY TAKE IT FROM OUR CAD SYSTEM SO IT'S MORE UP TO DATE. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, WE CAN, I'LL FOLLOW UP AND I GET THAT WITH YOU. 
          BIT OF THAT, THAT COMMUNITY CRIME MAP JUST TELLS REALLY SMALL, SKEWED PART OF THE STORY, RIGHT? AS CHIEF SPENCER HAD TOLD US, EDUCATED US ON, AND THERE'S A LOT MORE INFORMATION THAT, YOU KNOW, CITIZENS COULD GET IF WE PROVIDED, IF POLICE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? I KNOW THAT COSTS MONEY. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON THAT, BUT I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF HAVING MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO, UH, PUBLIC. 
          I MEAN, YOU DO A GREAT JOB AND IT'S GOOD TO TELL THE STORY TOO. 
          I THINK I CAN CHIME IN ON THAT. 
          . 
          SO THE, WHAT CHIEF SAID IS CORRECT, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO OUR CURRENT GI IS SOFTWARE, UM, CAN INTEGRATE, UH, AND DO BETTER THAN WHAT COMMUNITY CRIME APPS IS DOING. 
          HEARING A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT CARROLLTON DOES, THEY HAVE A SIMILAR PROGRAM. 
          UH, WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON IT. 
          WE WERE FINDING THINGS THAT IS NOT AS EASY AS WE THOUGHT. 
          AND SO OUR TEAM JUST SPOKE WITH KARA, OUR PRIME ANALYST, UH, LAST WEEK. 
          SHE'S WORKING ON THIS KIND BACKGROUND AMONGST SOME OTHER THINGS, AND SHE'S SLOWLY MAKING PROGRESS, BUT WE'RE S SOFTWARE TO MAKE IT A BETTER VERSION OF COMMUNITY CRIME APPS. 
          THE HOPE IS THAT IT'S ACTUALLY BETTER. 
          UM, WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO A BUNCH OF WORK TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING THAT WE HAVE THAT SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          SO, UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT. 
          IT'S JUST NOT AS EASY AS WE ANTICIPATING OR HOPES. 
          THANK YOU, MIKE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, WHAT, HOW RECRUITMENT HAS BEEN AND RETENTION HAS BEEN? YES. 
          UH, SO RIGHT NOW IN THE CULTURE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I, I THINK I'VE BEEN TOLD IT'S BEEN AS GOOD AS IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST. 
          UM, SO WE'RE RECRUITMENT EFFORTS AND RETENTION IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO SERVE. 
          I THINK WAY WE STARTED AS THE CULTURE, RIGHT? THAT'S ONE THING THAT, THAT WE HAVE WORKED HEAVILY ON. 
          AND JUST BUILDING THAT CULTURE. 
          UM, RECRUITMENT, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN NUMBERS LATELY. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES ON PAPER NOW THAT IS NOT MEETING MISCONTRUED WITH OPERATIONALLY WHAT WE'RE DOWN, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT OFFICERS IN TRAINING AND THE ACADEMY OFFICERS NOT ON LEAVE, BUT JUST THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE HIRED TWO ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS. 
          WE HAVE MORE IN THE PIPELINE. 
          UM, SO THE NUMBERS ARE LOOKING UP. 
          UM, BUT WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT, RIGHT? AND, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, WE'VE GOTTEN MORE, UH, JOB TRAINING FAIRS IN THE PAST. 
          WE'RE LOOKING TO CONTINUE THAT AND ALSO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, OTHER SOURCES WE HAVEN'T REALLY GONE TO IN THE PAST THAT'S GOING TO DIFFERENT UNIVERSITIES, GO TO MILITARY INSTALLATIONS, SPEAKING TO THEM, UH, AND THEN REALLY LEANING INTO THE POLICE ACADEMIES WHERE PEOPLE SELF PUT THEMSELVES. 
          I KNOW THEY, THEY PUT THEMSELVES THROUGH THEMSELVES AND THEN WE CAN GO THERE AND TALK 'EM THROUGH ALREADY CERTIFIED. 
          WE BRING THEM ON HERE AS A CERTIFIED OFFICER. 
          SO THERE'S A FEW, UH, POLICE COLLEGES AROUND THIS AREA, LIKE CEDAR VALLEY, THAT, THAT DO THAT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND HISTORICALLY WE HAVEN'T REALLY TAPPED INTO THAT. 
          UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY DOING THAT HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. 
          AND RETENTION. 
          UM, HOW, HOW HAS THAT BEEN? I MEAN, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY HIRING PEOPLE. 
          ARE WE ABLE TO KEEP THE ONES WE WANT TO KEEP? UH, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? UH, THAT'S ALL DRIVEN MY CULTURE. 
          UH, ONE THING I'VE SPOKEN TO SENIOR MANAGER, I DID, I CAME IN, I SPOKE WITH EVERY SINGLE PERSON, ONE-ON-ONE WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION TO KINDA GET A VIEW OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO GOING FORWARD. 
          AND ONE THING THAT I'VE LEARNED IS THE CULTURE'S GOOD, BUT IT'S BETTER NOT US AND THE COMMAND STAFF TO CONTINUE TO FOSTER THAT. 
          UM, WE LOOK AT RETAINING OUR EMPLOYEES BY DOING WHAT WE'VE BROUGHT IN THIS, UM, PRESERVATION 
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OF GETTING OUR OFFICERS THE PAY THAT THEY NEED, GETTING THEM THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED, UM, JUST BEING THERE, BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR 'EM. 
          SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE'VE RELIED HEAVILY ON THAT WE'LL CONTINUE DOING. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, RETENTION, I HAVEN'T HEARD PEOPLE LOOKING INTO LEAVING RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S AN EVERYDAY THING THAT WE WORK ON DAILY, AND THAT'S JUST BUILDING THAT CULTURE AND KEEPING THAT MINDSET. 
          I, IF I UNDERSTAND AND CERTAINLY, UH, CHIEF OR CHIEF JUST JUMP IN, I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE HEAR. 
          I MEAN, WE ARE HEARING GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE CULTURE, AND I THINK THAT'S PARAMOUNT. 
          UM, AS FAR AS THE ISSUES THAT COME UP WHEN WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OFFICERS, I THINK THE FACILITY OBVIOUSLY IS A BIG ONE, RIGHT? THAT'S COME UP CERTAINLY SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY THIS BUDGET TALK ABOUT IT MORE TOMORROW HELPS US TO POSSIBLY HAVE A PATH FORWARD ON THAT. 
          THE OTHER IS THEIR PACE STRUCTURE, THEIR PAID PLAN, KIND OF HAVING SOME KIND OF PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA BRING FORWARD TO COUNCIL IN THE FALL IS A WORK SESSION TO TALK ABOUT SOME POSSIBILITIES TO GIVE, UM, SOME MORE ASSURANCES, OR NOT QUITE ASSURANCES, BUT AT LEAST A PATH FORWARD FOR WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE WHEN OFFICERS COME ON BOARD, WHICH IS, WOULD BE SOMEWHAT MORE IN LINE WHAT ALMOST EVERY OTHER CITY DOES. 
          SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE IN THE FALL. 
          BUT, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEING CERTAINLY RESPONSIVE TO THEM AND IT CERTAINLY GOES TO RETENTION BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO SAY, WELL, HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UH, COMPETITIVE WITH OUR, WITH OUR PEER CITIES? AND THAT'S FOR BOTH FIRE POLICE. 
          SO THIS IS MORE JUST A PRELUDE TO SAY WE'RE GONNA COME BACK AND HAVE SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS IN THE FALL THAT WE'LL FLESH THAT OUT MORE. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU GUYS DO. 
          ABSOLUTELY, SIR. 
          SO CHIEF, YOU WOULD'VE DONE THE A PRO PROGRAM FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW. 
          ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ON THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? FOR THE, AS ADDISON POLICE REPORTING ONLINE? UH, I'VE HEARD GOOD THINGS. 
          UH, I THINK PEOPLE LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY CAN GO ONLINE AND GET THAT INSTANT, UH, REPORT. 
          UH, ONE THING THAT WE JUST WANNA PUT OUT IS THAT STILL, IF YOU STILL WANT THE OPTION AN OFFICER TO COME TO YOU, YOU STILL HAVE THAT OPTION. 
          UM, AND JUST BECAUSE YOU REPORT ONLINE, IT DOESN'T GO TO THIS SILO. 
          SAME LOOKED AT IT STILL GOES TO THE DETECTIVE. 
          THEY STILL PUT EYES ON IF THERE'S ANY FOLLOW UP. 
          UM, ALL THIS IS IS JUST ALLOWING OUR RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, IF THEY JUST WANNA COME ONLINE AND HAVE THAT REPORT IMMEDIATELY AND HAVE, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          I'M, I'M GLAD IT'S WORKING OUT. 
          SEEMS IT CERTAINLY MAKES, UH, PUT SOME EFFICIENCIES IN PLACE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, UH, AND, AND I'LL JUST COMMENT ABOUT THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          UH, GREAT EXAMPLE. 
          LAST NIGHT WE HAD OUR ANNUAL HOA MEETING SLASH CARNIVAL SLASH TURNED INTO, BUT, BUT WE HAD OAC C MATT DAVIS CAME AND DID A PRESENTATION, UH, TO THE GROUP, VERY INFORMAL PRESENTATION, BUT, AND ACTUALLY QUESTIONS SHE FREEZE WAS THERE. 
          AND I, AND I CAN TELL YOU MY NEIGHBORS WERE VERY IMPRESSED, ONE THAT THE CHIEF SHOWED UP. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UH, AND, AND JUST TO HAVE MATT THERE, BECAUSE MATT'S REALLY GOOD AT THOSE DOING THOSE PRESENTATIONS AND, AND VERY HELPFUL. 
          SO, UH, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WANNA CREATE THAT, THAT ENVIRONMENT WHERE, UH, IT IS THAT SMALL TOWN FAIR WHERE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RESIDENTS KNOW, KNOW THE OFFICERS, THEY KNOW THE CHIEF, AND, AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN, UH, REACH OUT TO THEM, UH, EASILY ENOUGH. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          IT'S, IT'S A GREAT EFFORT. 
          SURE. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF? ALRIGHT, WELL LET Y'ALL LET Y'ALL EASY THANK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WHO'S THAT NEXT FIRE, CHIEF JONES. 
          GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, DAVID JONES, FIRE CHIEF AND IT'S MY PLEASURE. 
          GOODNIGHT. 
          TO PRESENT OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION TO YOU AND TALK ABOUT OUR MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND WE'VE HAD, AND THE OBJECTIVES FOR FY 25. 
          IF YOU KNOW OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, JULIE WINKLER, IF WE JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THANK YOU FOR APPROVING HER, HER POSITION, IT HAS BEEN, UH, AN OUTSTANDING ADDITION TO THE TOWN. 
          UH, SHE'S REALLY, SHE'S GONNA PRESENT TO YOU IN A FEW WEEKS. 
          I THINK SHE'S GONNA BE ABLE TO PRESENT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT SHE'S DONE SINCE SHE'S BEEN HERE. 
          BUT, UH, SHE HAS BEEN AMAZING. 
          WE'VE REALLY STRENGTHENED OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION WITH THIS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT POSITION, UH, WITH THE ENTIRE REGION. 
          WE'VE CONSOLIDATED AND IMPROVED EFFICIENCY WITH AN A D PROGRAM. 
          SO NOW WE OVERSEE, WE HAVE A, UH, COMPANY THAT OVERSEES ALL OF MAINTENANCE OF ABOUT 40 AEDS ACROSS THE TOWN. 
          AND SO THAT'S OUR, UH, AUTOMATED EXTERNAL DEFIBRILLATORS USE OUR CPR. 
          WE'VE COORDINATED ONGOING RESILIENCY TRAINING AND MENTAL HEALTH SCREENING FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS. 
          AND I'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF MORE OF THIS IN OUR DECISION PACKAGES, BUT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A COUPLE YEARS. 
          WE'VE ABSORBED THE PAY FOR THAT AND BEEN ABLE TO, UH, TO, UH, SEE SOME, UH, BASICALLY BE ABLE TO MAKE A, UH, A GROUND ASSESSMENT OF EVERY FIREFIGHTER AND WHERE THEY ARE MENTALLY AND HOW THEY RESPOND EACH YEAR TO THE INCIDENTS THAT THEY'VE GONE ON. 
          THE CRITICAL INCIDENTS WE'VE ACHIEVED A RENEWAL ISO RATING. 
          IT'S THE HIGHEST RATING, ATTAINABLE FOR RATING SUPERIOR PROPERTY FIRE PROTECTION. 
          THIS IS DONE, 50% OF THAT GRADE IS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, 40% IS THE WATER DEPARTMENT, AND 10% IS OUR DISPATCH. 
          AND WE DID RECEIVE 
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A ONE, AND THE LAST TIME THAT WAS DONE WAS 2018 WHEN WE WENT FROM TWO TO OH ONE. 
          THEN WE'VE ENHANCED OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS WITH EVENTS LIKE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AND OTHER EVENTS. 
          UH, TOO MANY A LIST, BUT WE DO A LOT OF, UH, SPUR OF THE MOMENT STATION TOURS OR VISITS AND GO OVER TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT WITH, WITH PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SEE. 
          WE WERE AWARDED A GRANT FROM METRO HOSPITAL AUTHORITY FOR $40,000 TO PURCHASE TWO REPLACEMENT LUCAS THREE DEVICES FOR CPRA. 
          LUCAS DEVICE IS USED TO GIVE CONTINUAL COMPRESSIONS DURING A CPR. 
          YOU CAN IMAGINE DOING COMPRESSIONS ON SOMEBODY AND HAVING TO MOVE DOWN A HALLWAY OR A FLIGHT OF STAIRS. 
          THIS CON CONTINUES THOSE COMPRESSIONS AND IT MAKES FOR MORE SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES. 
          THOSE WERE $20,000 A PIECE. 
          THE HOSPITAL AUTHORITY HELPED US TO FUND THOSE, TO REPLACE SOME THAT WE HAD. 
          UH, LAST YEAR WE PROVIDED EIGHT DOCUMENTED CPR SAVES. 
          THAT'S THE HIGHEST AMOUNT WE'VE HAD IN A YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE SEEING A REAL TURNAROUND WITH OUR EMS TRAINING. 
          WE'VE VERY AGGRESSIVE EMS TRAINING. 
          WE USE A SIMULATION MANNEQUIN. 
          UH, WE HAVE VERY HIGH PERFORMING PARAMEDICS AND WE PURCHASED QC STAFF VEHICLES. 
          UH, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON DELIVERY OF THOSE. 
          THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS A LITTLE COMPARISON OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH THE QUAD CITIES, AND IT'S JUST A SNAPSHOT, BUT IF YOU, ON THE CHART, ON THE FAR LEFT, IF YOU TOOK THE ENTIRE CALL VOLUME, THIS IS JUST AN AVERAGE, BUT IF YOU TOOK THE ENTIRE CALL VOLUME AND AVERAGE IT BY THE NUMBER OF STATIONS THAT ARE RESPONDING TO THOSE CALLS, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY BUSY, UH, COMPARED TO THE OTHER CITIES. 
          AND ACTUALLY  IS BUILDING THEIR FIFTH STATION NOW. 
          SO THOSE NUMBERS WILL GO DOWN FOR THEM. 
          BUT WE ARE A PRETTY BUSY LITTLE DEPARTMENT AND OUR DISPATCH ON SCENE TIME, SOMETHING WE'RE VERY PROUD OF, WE GET OUTTA THE HOUSE QUICKLY AND WE GET TO THE, THE SCENE QUICKLY. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE WE TREND THAT OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY RIGHT ON PAR WHERE WE'VE BEEN IN THE PAST. 
          SO THAT'S THE ONE TIME WE CAN CONTROL IS, IS GETTING EN ROUTE. 
          AND THEN ONCE WE GET OUT IN THE TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, ALL BETS ARE OFF. 
          BUT, UH, WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE FOR THE QUICK RESPONSE TIME AND WE'RE PROUD OF THAT. 
          OUR OBJECTIVES FOR 25, UH, CREATE RELIABLE FUNDING TOWARDS ANNUAL MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS FOR STAFF. 
          AND WHAT THAT IS, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE MENTAL HEALTH EARLIER AND IN OUR DECISION PACKAGE WE'RE ASKED, ASKING FOR SOME ASSISTANCE WITH THAT, THE EXACT SAME REQUEST THAT PD ASKED FOR LAST YEAR, UH, TO HELP WITH MENTAL HEALTH. 
          WE WERE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ABSORB SOME OF IT, BUT SOME OF THE COUNSELING AND SOME OF THE CRITICAL POINTS OF DISTRESS DEBRIEFING AND THESE THINGS, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE A CONTRACT TO DO WORK THROUGH THAT INCORPORATED TECHNOLOGY INTO USING DASH AND HELMET CAMERAS. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN SHOW YOU A VIDEO OF, UH, IN JUST A MINUTE. 
          BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO TO INTEGRATE SOME TECHNOLOGY IN WHAT WE DO. 
          MUCH LIKE YOU SEE THE POLICE, THEY HAVE THEIR BODY CAMS ON AND BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THINGS ON SCENE. 
          WELL, DASH CAMS CAN HELP US FOR EVIDENCE DURING AN ACCIDENT AND, UH, AND SHOW SOME OF THE RESPONSE. 
          BUT ALSO THE HELMET CAMS ARE WHAT YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE WHAT FIREFIGHTER IS SEEING ON AN INCIDENT. 
          AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND USE THAT FOR TRAINING AND MAKING US BETTER CONTINUE TO PRO, PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL OF QUALITY TRAINING FOR OUR PEOPLE, CONTINUE TO EVALUATE WAYS TO MEET THE DEPARTMENT'S NEEDS AND WELLNESS AND CANCER AWARENESS PREVENTION. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL ALWAYS BE ON THERE. 
          CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR INNOVATIVE WAYS TO PROVIDE SERVICE. 
          AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO, UH, OUR COMMUNITY EVENTS LIKE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AND REPLACE AN END OF LIFE AMBULANCE WITH A NEW ONE. 
          IT'S JUST A REPLACEMENT FOR RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION. 
          THESE ARE SOME THINGS WE TRY TO JUST DO INTERNALLY TO, TO HELP OUT. 
          WE PURCHASED A, WE PURCHASED AN SCBA, WHICH IS A SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS. 
          THAT'S THE BOTTLE THAT WE WEAR ON OUR BACK. 
          A MASK AND BOTTLE FIT TEST MACHINE, ELIMINATING THIRD PARTY NEEDS. 
          THIS SAVES AROUND $3,000 A YEAR. 
          BUT THOSE, WE HAVE TO DO A FIT TEST ANNUALLY. 
          WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO ONE BY THE STATE, BUT ALSO ANYTIME WE BRING SOMEBODY IN AS A NEW HIRE, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY COME OUT AND DO A FIT TEST ON THEM AND RUN THROUGH THAT GAMUT. 
          NOW WE CAN DO THIS OURSELVES. 
          WE HAVE OUR, WE'VE TRAINED OUR PEOPLE TO DO IT, SO WE JUST HIRED SOME NEW PEOPLE. 
          THEY WERE ABLE TO COME IN ON THEIR FIRST WEEK OF ORIENTATION AND WE CAN KNOCK THAT OUT. 
          WE STREAMLINED, STREAMLINED OUR UNIFORM ORDERING PROCESS, PROVIDING A COST SAVINGS. 
          WE WERE WEARING A BDU STYLE OF UNIFORM EVERY DAY AND HAD PATCHES SEWN ON AND THEY'RE EXPENSIVE, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE TOMORROW AND POLO. 
          AND THEN NOT SHORTLY AFTER, UH, MOVING TO APOLLO, WE WERE ABLE TO ORDER 'EM IN BULK ON AMAZON, GET 'EM AND TURN AROUND AND GO GET THE, UH, WE WERE, WE WERE ABLE TO TURN AROUND AND GET THE, UH, EMBROIDERY DONE AND GET 'EM ON PEOPLE QUICKLY AND PERSONALIZED. 
          AND IT SAVES ABOUT $50 A PERSON ON, ON OUR FIRST ORDER. 
          WE WERE AGAIN AWARDED THAT $40,000 GRANT FROM METRO TRUST HOSPITAL AUTHORITY SAVED US MONEY FOR HAVING TO REPLACE TWO LUCAS DEVICES. 
          WE MODIFIED OUR OVERTIME POLICY TO PROVIDE SOME COST SAVINGS. 
          UH, ALL OF THIS DID REALLY WAS JUST LINE OUT IN PAPER THAT WHEN YOU, THE POSITION YOU'RE IN, YOU DON'T WORK A POSITION BENEATH 
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YOU. 
          SO IF YOU'RE AN OFFICER, YOU'RE NOT GONNA RIDE BACKWARDS AS A FIREFIGHTER AND BE PAID OFFICER PAY OVERTIME RATE, SO YOU RIDE YOUR POSITION OR ONE HIRE TO, UH, TO WORK OVERTIME. 
          AND THAT US SOME COST ELIMINATED. 
          OUR CABLE PROVIDER, WHICH WENT TO A STREAMING SERVICE AT THE STATION, SOUNDS SMALL, BUT IT WAS ABOUT $1,200 IN SAVINGS FOR THE STATIONS. 
          SO WE CHANGED OUR OXYGEN PROVIDER FOR A COST SAVINGS. 
          AND THEN ALSO WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR EMS SUPPLIERS TO REDUCE COST. 
          THAT MEANS SOMETIMES WE DON'T BUY BRAND NAME. 
          WE TEST SOMETHING OUT, MAKE SURE THAT IT OPERATES THE SAME AND WE'LL USE IT. 
          SO WE JUST DO THINGS WHERE WE CAN TO CUT COSTS OUR DECISION PACKAGES. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS THE MENTAL HEALTH SCREENING FOR OUR MEMBERS. 
          AND IT'S NOT JUST THIS, THIS SET OF SCREENING, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN SCREENING BECAUSE WHAT THIS MONEY WOULD BE, THIS $30,000 RECURRING FUND WOULD BE USED VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT POLICE REQUESTED LAST YEAR. 
          IT IS, UM, NOT ONLY FOR RESILIENCY TRAINING FOR OUR PEOPLE, IT GIVES 'EM AVAILABILITY FOR COUNSELORS. 
          IF WE HAVE A CRI CRITICAL INCIDENT THAT OCCURS, THEY'RE ABLE TO BE DEBRIEFED RIGHT AWAY. 
          WE'RE ABLE TO CALL PEOPLE IN AND START WORKING ON THE, UH, THE PROCESS TO, TO WORK THROUGH THAT. 
          UM, IT ALSO PROVIDES US AN ABILITY FOR NEW OFFICERS. 
          WE CAN SEE, UH, SUPERVISORS, THEY CAN BE SENT TO, UH, LEARN HOW TO HANDLE SOME OF THE LITTLE THINGS LIKE, UH, DEALING WITH CONFLICT RESOLUTION AND, AND, AND OTHER TECHNIQUES THAT, THAT THEY TEACH US TO TEACH SOME STRESS. 
          STRESS AND THAT STRESS ME STRESS COPING MECHANISMS. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THE SERVICE IS ALSO AVAILABLE TO THEIR IMMEDIATE FAMILY AS WELL. 
          IT, THEY HELP THEM SO IT ENHANCES PERFORMANCE, IMPROVES RESILIENCE, REDUCE STIGMA, WHICH THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A STIGMA IN PUBLIC SAFETY ABOUT ASKING FOR HELP. 
          NOW, IT'S NOT THAT WAY. 
          I THINK BOTH OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE VERY RECEPTIVE TO HELP. 
          AND THEY KNOW, UH, THAT SOMETIMES YOU'RE NOT OKAY AND IT'S OKAY TO ASK FOR SOME HELP. 
          OUR KEY FOCUS AREA FOR THIS IN PUBLIC SAFETY WAS PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE WAS RETAIN, RECRUIT AND TRAIN QUALITY EMPLOYEES IN ADDISON WAY AND PROVIDE ADEQUATE RESOURCES, WHICH IS THIS CONSTRUCTION DEGREE, FACILITIES, TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT. 
          AND IT'S $30,000 RECURRING. 
          THE VEHICLE MOUNTED HELMET, UH, AND HELMET CAMERAS ENHANCED SAFETY AND PROTECTION PROVIDES VIDEO EVIDENCE AND TRAINING. 
          UH, WOULD, IT WOULD PREVENT INCIDENTS WITH IN CAB ALERTS AND HELMET MOUNTED CAMERAS WOULD BE USED TO BETTER PREPARE AND TRAIN RESPONDERS FOR FUTURE EMERGENCIES. 
          WE COULD ALSO USE SOME OF THESE VIDEO CLIPS FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION IF APPROPRIATE AND ENGAGEMENT. 
          AND, UH, WE REQUESTED SUPPORT, UH, FROM INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND THEY SUPPORTED THIS ALSO. 
          THIS, THIS, THE DASH CAMS STORE. 
          EVERYTHING IN THE CLOUD, THE HELMET CAMS ARE ON SIM CARD. 
          SO WHEN THEY'RE USED, WE CAN JUST SAVE THOSE CARDS, KEEP FOCUS WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES, LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY TO ADDRESS ISSUES. 
          AND IT'S, UH, $23,000 ONE TIME FEE AND THEN $2,000 RECURRING FOR US TO DO THIS. 
          AND THEN, UH, VACIA, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT ONE ON THE, THE SCROLL MOUSE TO THE BOTTOM LEFT? YEAH. 
          SO THIS SHOWS AN EXAMPLE OF AN ACCIDENT THAT WAS CAUGHT ON VIDEO WHERE THIS PERSON PULLED OUT IN FRONT AND THEY WERE ABLE TO PULL THAT BACK UP AND SHOW THAT. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER VIDEO IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF A TRAINING EVOLUTION. 
          AND THIS IS A TRAINING ENVIRONMENT. 
          IT'S NOT ACTUAL FIRE, IT'S VERY HARD TO SEE IN AN ACTUAL FIRE, BUT, UH, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT THE VIEW WOULD BE AND IT SHOWS A ROLLOVER DOWN OUR HALLWAY. 
          AND THIS IS A GOOD TOOL FOR US TO USE TO, UH, TRAIN OUR PEOPLE WITH. 
          WOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT UH, DECISION PACKAGE WE HAVE IS USING, UH, WE HAVE A GRANT FUND SET UP, BASICALLY IT'S CALLED TASK, WHICH IS THE TEXAS AMBULANCE SERVICES SUPPLEMENTAL PAYMENT PROGRAM. 
          AND THOSE FUNDS, UH, THEY'RE USED TO REIMBURSE EMS AGENCIES THAT TREAT PATIENTS THAT HAVE, UH, SOME FINANCIAL, UH, MEETS SOME FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS. 
          UH, AS LONG AS THAT MONEY IS THERE AND IN THERE, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO REACH IN AND GRAB $15,000 ANNUAL TO USE TOWARDS OUR EMS TRAINING. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT, BUT BEING ABLE TO HAVE, GET IN THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO GET PERMISSION THESE TIME, WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE, UH, CASH FUNDS FOR TRAINING WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN FY 23 ON A ONE-TIME BASIS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO JUST USE IT WHAT WE NEEDED. 
          THE KEY FOCUS AREA, AGAIN IS PUBLIC SAFETY TO RETAIN, RECRUIT AND TRAIN QUALITY EMPLOYEES ADDISON WAY AND PROVIDE ADEQUATE RESOURCES WITH 15,000 RECURRING. 
          UH, LOOKING AHEAD, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO COMPLETING THE STAFFING STUDY WITH MATRIX AND IMPLEMENTING ANY APPROPRIATE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY HAVE. 
          AND WE'RE ESPECIALLY, WE'RE ESPECIALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT THE PROPOSALS ARE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME SO WE CAN SEE WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE GONNA BE DOWN THE LINE AS THINGS GROW. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MORE 
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VERTICAL CHALLENGES HERE THAN WE HAD IN THE PAST. 
          SO, UH, REPLACEMENT OF RESCUE 1 0 1 AND FFY 26 AND THEN CONTINUE TO PLAN AND ADDRESS FOR FIRE STATION FACILITY NEEDS. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT'S IT. 
          ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THOSE QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF? I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          UM, YOU MENTIONED, I THINK THIS IS JUST TO CLARIFY ON THE MENTAL HEALTH SCREENING, YOU DID SAY THAT THAT IS ALSO AVAILABLE TO FAMILY MEMBERS? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE SCREENING IS NOT THE ACCOUNT, THE COUNSELING TO A COUNSELOR AND BE ABLE TO GET HELP. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT'S AVAILABLE. 
          THEY DON'T NEED THIS. 
          THE SCREENING ACTUALLY, THEY COME IN AS PART OF OUR, WE DO OUR ANNUAL PHYSICALS. 
          WE DO A MEDICAL PHYSICAL, AND IT'S REQUIRED BY AN FPA, UH, THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION. 
          AND WE HAVE ALSO IMPLEMENTED THIS MENTAL HEALTH SCREENING. 
          SO A PROFESSIONAL THERAPIST, COUNSELOR LICENSE COMES IN AND SITS DOWN AND GETS A BASELINE THE FIRST YEAR FOR SOMEBODY. 
          AND THEN AFTER THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO SEE IF ARE, ARE THEY BEING, IS THEY'RE SLEEPING OR AFFECTS IF IT'S HAPPENING AT HOME. 
          AND SO YEAH, THAT'S JUST AVAILABLE FOR A FIREFIGHTER. 
          AND THE FAMILY IS COUNSELING FOR THE COUNSELING. 
          OKAY. 
          ANOTHER QUESTION ON THAT, HELMET CAMERAS, ONE OF 'EM SAID PREVENT INCIDENTS WITH INCA ALERTS. 
          WHAT'S AN, WHAT'S AN INCA ALERT? SO IT'S A LITTLE INDICATOR ON THE CAMERA. 
          IT'LL KIND OF INDICATE KINDA LIKE WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING A CAR, YOU HAVE YOUR, UH, MIRROR WILL INDICATE THAT YOU HAVE A VEHICLE NEXT TO YOU. 
          OH YEAH. 
          IT, IT IS SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR WITH THE CAMERA IN THERE. 
          IT'LL GET, HAVE THE VEHICLE NEXT TO YOU THAT I SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WOULD IT, WOULD IT, THAT 23,000 PAY FOR A CAMERA ON EVERY HELMET? NO, NO, SIR. 
          THAT WOULD PUT A CAMERA ON THE OFFICER'S HELMET. 
          JUST ON THE SUPERVISOR'S HELMET. 
          SO HOW MANY IS THAT? THAT WOULD BE FOUR. 
          THREE THREE. 
          AND THEN THE 2000 IS TO MAINTAIN THAT, THE 2000 IS TO MAINTAIN, UH, TO, UH, KEEP THE SERVICE THAT KEEPS IT IN THE CLOUD FOR US. 
          AND WE CAN JUST GRAB THAT WHENEVER WE NEED, WHENEVER WE NEED THAT INFORMATION. 
          SO THE OTHER O THE OTHER FIREARM THEN WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T GET DONE. 
          WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT. 
          AND IF WE WANTED, IF, IF THIS PROGRAM WORKS OUT WELL, WE'D LIKE TO BUMP THAT UP AND GET MORE FIREFIGHTERS, WE COULD DO THAT TOO. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW WE JUST THOUGHT WE WOULD TRY TO PUT ONE CAMERA ON EACH OFFICER'S HOME. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, AND THEN THE DASH CAMS ALSO IS PART OF THAT, THAT DASH CAM IS IN THAT PRICE. 
          SO IS THAT ONE IN EACH FIRE TRUCK, THE DASH CAM? YES. 
          AND HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? THAT WOULD BE THREE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE WOULD, UH, IF WE'RE ABLE TO PUT ONE BATALION EVERY VEHICLE. 
          EVERY VEHICLE, YEAH. 
          ENGINE. 
          I WAS THINKING ENGINES, WE'LL PUT 'EM ON THE AMBULANCE. 
          SO ALL THE VEHICLES AND THE EVERY YES, SIR. 
          AND THEY, UH, BUT THE HELMET CAMS ARE NOT SUPER EXPENSIVE, SO WE CAN ABSORB THAT, EXCITE MORE IN. 
          BUT THAT WOULD GET US STARTED. 
          WELL, I'M GONNA ASK THE SAME QUESTION THAT I ASKED CHRIS. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, RECRUITMENT, RETENTION, UM, HOW IS THAT GOING? YEAH, WE ARE IN A DIFFERENT SPOT WITH RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION RIGHT NOW. 
          WE'VE, UH, THIS YEAR WE'VE HAD, UH, WE'VE HIRED EIGHT FIREFIGHTERS. 
          WE HAD ONE LEAVE TO GO TO, HE MOVED, HE WENT TO SEATTLE. 
          UM, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE FIREFIGHTERS LEAVE BECAUSE OF PROXIMITY. 
          THEY WANTED TO MOVE CLOSER TO THEIR HOMES BECAUSE THEY WERE DRIVING IN A LONG WAYS. 
          AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE FOR THAT STEP. 
          OR THE, THE, THE COMPENSATION PLAN THAT DAVID MENTIONED EARLIER, THEY'VE HAD MORE OF, UH, THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD GO IN WITH LESS YEARS AND MAKE MORE MONEY THAN WHERE THEY WERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S HAPPENED A COUPLE TIMES. 
          UM, WE'VE HIRED SOME REALLY GREAT PEOPLE. 
          GOOD. 
          UM, AND WE ARE, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN A SPOT WHERE IT'S EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE. 
          WE'RE, THERE'S SEVERAL CITIES THAT ARE ALL HIRING AT THE SAME TIME. 
          SOME ARE VERY HIGH PAYING. 
          UM, AND SOME ARE HIRING A GREAT NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS AT 0.5. 
          SO IT IS, THERE'S A CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, WE, WE JUST RAN A PROCESS AND WE'RE, WE'LL PROBABLY RUN ANOTHER ONE, ANOTHER MONTH. 
          WE HAVE ONE VACANCY. 
          HAVE ONE VACANCY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I MEAN, ARE ARE, ARE YOU ABLE TO HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES YOU NEED TO, TO DO YOUR JOB WELL AND, AND, AND KEEP FIREFIGHTERS WITH THIS ONE VACANCY? OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT JUST IN GENERAL? I MEAN, I GUESS WE'RE ONLY, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR CONVERSATION WE'RE GONNA HAVE IN THE FALL. 
          AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF THE DRIVING BEFORE. 
          AND I, AND I WOULD, I WOULD ADD TOO. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN FALL, WHICH IS A DRIVING FORCE, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION, BUT OBVIOUSLY BOTH CHIEFS HAVE MENTIONED THE MATRIX STAFFING STUDY THAT WE'RE DOING. 
          MATRIX IS THE FIRM THAT WE'RE USING, THOSE RESULTS SHOULD BE GREAT IN THE FALL. 
          SO WE'LL PRESENT THOSE TO YOU AS WELL. 
          AND THAT'LL GIVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHERE WE ARE NOW. 
          [02:15:01]
OR DO WE HAVE ANY SHORTAGES? WHERE SHOULD WE, WHERE COULD WE NEED RESOURCES? BUT ALSO TO START PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AS WE HAVE MORE DENSITY AND MORE NEEDS, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE? SO THOSE WILL BE TWO BIG DISCUSSIONS IN THE FALL AS WELL. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S REALLY WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT QUESTION, SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UM, YEAH, CHIEF ON THIS, UH, TASK, THESE TASK FUNDS, UM, ARE WE GETTING SOME TYPE OF MATCH ON THAT? I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE TEXAS AMBULANCE SERVICE SUPPLEMENTAL PAYMENTS OR WHAT'S GETTING SUPPLEMENTED? WE'RE GETTING PAID BACK. 
          BASICALLY MEDICARE, THE, SORRY, MAYOR COUNSEL, UH, THE SUPPLEMENT IS COMING FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          IT'S FEDERAL MONEY THAT WORKS ITS WAY DOWN THROUGH THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          WE APPLY FOR IT EVERY YEAR. 
          WE SHOW THEM HOW MUCH SERVICES WE APPLY FOR. 
          AND THEN WITH OUR BILLING AGENCY THAT WE USE, UH, HOW MUCH WE DON'T GET REIMBURSED THROUGH, UH, INSURANCE AND UNDERINSURED OR UNINSURED, THAT MONEY COMES BACK TO US. 
          IT'S NOT A MATCHING PROGRAM, IT'S JUST WE SHOWED THE STATE THIS IS HOW MUCH MONEY WE DID NOT RECEIVE UNDERINSURED OR UNINSURED. 
          AND THAT MONEY COMES BACK TO US. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO, UM, AND, AND ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BUDGETING 15,000 IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THESE FUNDS? THAT MONEY, THE MONEY GOES INTO A GRANT FUND. 
          SO IT JUST SITS IN THAT ACCOUNT. 
          WE'RE JUST ASKING TO USE THAT MONEY OUTTA THE ACCOUNT THAT MONEY'S ALREADY SAVED. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, JUST TO FOLLOW ON THE SAME LINE CHIEF, UH, AS FAR AS GETTING PAYMENT FOR THE PARAMEDIC AMBULANCE SERVICES THAT WE DO, UH, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE PAST. 
          HOW DO, HOW DO WE DO ON THAT? ARE WE PRETTY SUCCESSFUL OR, OR DO WE, IS THERE MORE THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING? OR WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? TALKING ABOUT THE CASH FUNDS OR? NO, JUST, JUST IF, IF SOMEBODY THAT'S MAYBE NOT AN ADDISON RESIDENT NEEDS AMBULANCE TRANSPORT TO A HOSPITAL, DO WE GET, DO WE GET PAYMENT FROM THEIR INSURANCE COMPANY FOR THAT? OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? NO, SO THAT GOES THROUGH  THE CHIEF ANSWER BECAUSE, SO HE DEALS DIRECTLY WITH THE BILLING COMPANY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU'RE IN AS IMMIGR GREAT PROGRAM. 
          UM, WE'RE NON BALANCE BILLING ORGANIZATION. 
          SO WHAT WE DO, ANY ADDISON CITIZEN, UH, THAT LIVES HERE, WE WILL BILL OR INSURANCE, ANYTHING THAT'S LEFT OVER IS NOT BILLED TO THE ACTUAL ADDISON RESIDENT. 
          UH, SO WE DO VERY WELL. 
          SO I KNOW THE INSURANCE, UH, SO ANYTHING LEFT OVER DOES THE CITY, BUT ANYTHING THAT IS A NON-RESIDENT, THEY GET THE FULL BILL. 
          SO WE BILL THEIR INSURANCE, IF ANYTHING LEFTOVER, OBVIOUSLY THEIR COPAY OR THEIR DEDUCTIBLE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, PEOPLE WILL RECO AND ME FUND IS A REALLY GOOD JOB ABOUT, UH, RECOVERING THOSE . 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT LUCAS THREE DEVICE, I WAS REALLY GLAD WHEN Y'ALL GOT THAT EARLIER. 
          WAS THAT THIS YEAR OR LAST YEAR? UH, THIS YEAR. 
          WE GOT TWO OPEN THEM THIS YEAR. 
          YEAH, THAT WAS REALLY GREAT. 
          AND, UH, METROCREST HOSPITAL AUTHORITY BEHIND THAT. 
          SO DO, DID WE HAVE MUCH OTHER INTERACTION WITH MHA BESIDES THAT? UH, THEY, THEY MEET WITH US EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT WE TRY TO, UH, KEEP THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH 'EM BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE FUNDING'S GONNA BE AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL APPLY AND WHAT, WHAT YOU IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC NEED THAT YOU HAVE, AND THEN THEY'LL DECIDE IF THEY HAVE A BOARD AND THEN THEY'LL DECIDE IF THEY CAN FUND THAT OR NOT. 
          YEAH, WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE THEY'RE, IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION. 
          OH YEAH. 
          AND UH, AND I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ONE OF THEIR HOSPITALS IN ADDISON THAT PROBABLY WOULD MAKE, MAKES A DIFFERENCE. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, UH, YEAH, MORE THAN WE CAN DO WITH THEM, THE BETTER, I THINK. 
          UM, YEAH, THAT'S ALL THAT, I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD. 
          AND I, AND I LIKED YOUR COMMENTS, WHO MADE YOU MADE COMMENTS, BUT JULIE WINKLER. 
          OH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          SHE'S GREAT. 
          YEAH, SIR. 
          GLAD WE GOT HER ON BOARD. 
          SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF COMMENTS? NO, THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          THANK YOU, DAVID. 
          NO, NOT FOR CHIEF. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. 
          UM, BUT I AM GONNA DO SOMEWHAT OF AN AUDIBLE ON OUR PLAN. 
          WE HAVE 30 MINUTES TILL EIGHT, AND I SAID, SO I'M GONNA TAKE OUR 30 MINUTES AND WE'RE GONNA USE 'EM. 
          UM, SO I'M GONNA ASK, SO AS WE MENTIONED, THERE WERE THREE MORE PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE ATTACHED TO YOUR DATA THAT WE DIDN'T PLAN TO GO THROUGH. 
          BUT, UH, SINCE WE HAVE THIS TIME, I AM GONNA ASK WAYNE AND LESLIE TO COME UP AND PRESENT THEIRS WILL MS. SHANNON THIS TIME, UNFORTUNATELY. 
          BUT SHANNON WILL HAVE ALL OF SHANNON'S ITEMS WILL COME UP TOMORROW IN THE PRESENTATION. 
          BUT I'M GONNA ASK WAYNE AND LESLIE TO JUST SKIP OVER THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. 
          THEY HAD MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS. 
          PLEASE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. 
          WE'RE PROUD OF THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS, , BUT I'M GONNA ASK BOTH OF THEM TO GO THROUGH THEIR RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION AND, UH, DECISION POINT SLIDES, WHICH WILL HELP US FOR, TO GET THROUGH TOMORROW. 
          AND THERE ARE SOME GOOD ITEMS IN HERE TO DISCUSS. 
          SO WITH THAT AND TWAIN, SIR DAVE, UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL WAYNE EMERSON, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION IN OUR PACKET? YES, YES. 
          NO, YES. 
          THEY, THEY'RE ON THE, IT WAS A SEPARATE PRESENTATION THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. 
          OKAY. 
          LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE P. 
          [02:20:02]
THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO FOR, UH, RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION, UM, WE'RE PROPOSING THE, UH, ELIMINATION OF THE BUSINESS REGISTRATION PROGRAM AND REPLACING THAT AND INTRODUCING A BUSINESS SURVEY PROGRAM. 
          SO, UH, AS PART OF THAT PROCESS IMPROVEMENT, I THINK THE REAL BENEFIT TO DOING THIS, IT'S IN THE, UH, BUSINESS COMMUNITY, IT REMOVES, UH, ADDITIONAL FEES AND REGULATORY BURDENS AND THEN, UM, KIND OF ENHANCING THE RELATIONS BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. 
          SO WE HAVE ABOUT 3000 ESTIMATED, UH, BUSINESSES IN TOWN. 
          AND THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS, UM, A LOT OF TIMES THE ONLY TIME THEY MAY HEAR FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS THAT TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN WE COLLECT AN ADDITIONAL FEE AND, AND SORT OF HAVE THIS, UH, REGULATORY BURDEN COME ON 'EM, UM, IT'S GONNA PRODUCE MORE VALUABLE AND UPDATED DATA. 
          SO, UH, CURRENTLY THE, UH, THE REGISTRATION PROGRAM ONLY ALLOWS BUSINESSES TO UPDATE THAT DATA ON A ONE TIME. 
          AND THAT'S WHEN ARE YOU GUYS, Y'ALL WANT HOLD UP. 
          Y I'M SO GOOD. 
          I COULDN'T FIND THAT. 
          I GOT, I YOU GOT IT. 
          PAGE 2 28. 
          I FOUND IT. 
          YEAH, WE GOOD? OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          SORRY. 
          IT'S ALRIGHT. 
          NO, UM, I DIDN'T WANNA, I FELT LIKE I WAS LOSING YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, SO, UM, , SO FOR US, THE IDEA HERE WITH THE REGISTRATION PROGRAM IS ULTIMATELY, LIKE, IS DATA OKAY? BUT THE WAY THE SYSTEM'S KIND OF SET UP, AND I'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THAT, IN THE TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENT, WE CAN ONLY TRULY COLLECT THAT DATA THE, THE FIRST TIME THAT THESE BUSINESSES REGISTER. 
          UM, AND THEN EVEN THEN IT'S, IT'S VERY MINIMAL. 
          SO IT'S, IT, WE LOOK AT BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION 1 0 1. 
          IT'S MAINLY JUST FOUR DATA POINTS THAT WE'RE COLLECTING, AND WE'RE ONLY COLLECTING THAT AT THAT INITIAL TIME WHEN THEY REGISTER. 
          UM, AND SO THE IDEA OF GOING BEHIND THE SURVEY IS IT'S A LOT MORE, UH, ADAPTABLE, NIMBLE, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN SEND THAT TO THEM VIRTUALLY. 
          WE CAN DO SOME, YOU KNOW, SORT OF, UH, ALPHA BETA TESTING WHERE WE CAN KIND OF, UH, CUSTOMIZE THAT SURVEY. 
          WE CAN SEE THE DATA COMING IN, WE CAN ADJUST. 
          UM, AND SO REALLY JUST, JUST KIND OF MAKING THAT MORE VALUABLE. 
          UM, AND THEN WITH, WITH THAT STAFF TIME, THE WAY THE PROCESS IS CURRENTLY SET UP IS HONESTLY, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S JUST TROUBLESHOOTING. 
          IT'S LIKE, HEY, I'M A BUSINESS. 
          I NEED TO REGISTER. 
          THE, THE SYSTEM ISN'T WORKING FOR ME. 
          CAN YOU HELP ME THROUGH THIS? AND IN FACT, IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM WITHOUT A STAFF MEMBER HAND PUTTING IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE. 
          AND ONCE AGAIN, IF THE GOAL WAS 3000 BUSINESSES, THAT MEANS TO DO THIS CORRECTLY, THAT'S 3000 TIMES, UH, STAFF MEMBERS GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT. 
          UM, AND SO INSTEAD THIS SHIFTS THAT, THAT, UH, WORKLOAD TO MORE DATA ANALYSIS, WHICH IS REALLY GONNA KIND OF GUIDE OUR STRATEGIC STRATEGIC GUIDANCE. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE POINT OF THAT DATA, RIGHT? IS, UH, IS HOW DO WE, UH, GUIDE OUR STRATEGY. 
          AND THEN ON THE TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENT SIDE, UH, SIDE, THIS IS KIND OF GOING THROUGH MUNIS. 
          UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY UNI IS BAD. 
          I THINK IT WORKS WELL FOR A LOT OF THINGS, BUT I THINK FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM, ONCE AGAIN, IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE END USER TO, TO COME IN AND, AND, AND CHANGE THAT ON THEIR OWN, RIGHT? SO IF, IF, IF SOMETHING'S NOT WORKING, UH, OUR STAFF MEMBER HAS TO COME IN AND DO THAT, UM, IN ADDITION, THERE'S ONE AND THERE'S ONE INDIVIDUAL AT THAT BUSINESS LEVEL THAT'S GONNA, THAT'S GONNA TAKE THAT. 
          SO, UM, MOVING OVER TO WAYNE DISRUPT THIS, MUNICH IS OUR FINANCE E SYSTEM. 
          OH, SORRY, I DIDN'T, I, I, YEAH. 
          UM, AND SO WITHIN THAT SYSTEM, UH, THERE'S A COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE AND IT'S ASSIGNED TO THEM. 
          WELL, IF THAT COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE LEAVES, THEN THAT BUSINESS REALLY HAS NO, UH, METHOD TO, TO REGISTER EACH YEAR. 
          UM, AND SO THIS, THIS WOULD KIND OF JUST MOVE AWAY FROM THAT SYSTEM AND TO, TO SURVEYMONKEY, WHICH IS VERY SIMPLE, VERY EASY, AND IT SEAMLESSLY INTEGRATES INTO OUR CRM UH, PLATFORM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS HUBSPOT. 
          UM, AND FROM THERE, IT, THAT DATA WILL GO STRAIGHT FROM THERE INTO OUR CCRM SYSTEM. 
          UH, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR STAFF TO COME BACK IN AND REENTER THAT INFORMATION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY KIND OF THE, THE SYSTEM WE HAVE HERE. 
          SO WE'VE ESTIMATED THAT WOULD SAVE ABOUT 200 AND, UH, 50 HOURS. 
          AND THEN I'LL TALK A BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THAT BUSINESS SURVEY PROGRAM CAN, CAN FLOW INTO OUR DECISION PACKAGE. 
          AND SO THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, JUST ANOTHER THING TO KIND OF LOOK AT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THIS PROGRAM LAUNCHED IN 2013, THIS THING? YEP. 
          SO THIS, THIS LAUNCHED IN 2013, AND I THINK AT ITS BEST, IT WAS RIGHT AT 
          [02:25:01]
A LITTLE UNDER 50% OF WHAT WE ESTIMATE WOULD BE THE BUSINESSES. 
          AND IT IS SLOWLY DECLINED. 
          AND, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S REALLY TWO MAIN REASONS FOR THAT. 
          THE, THE FIRST AND FOREMOST IS AWARENESS. 
          UM, THAT'S ANOTHER THING I DIDN'T MENTION EARLIER IS THAT, UH, FAR AS THE, ALL THE RESEARCH WE'VE DONE, WE ARE THE ONLY MUNICIPALITY THAT REQUIRES BUSINESS REGISTRATION. 
          SO A LOT OF BUSINESSES JUST AREN'T AWARE OF THAT. 
          UH, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, YOU, YOU HAVE TO REGISTER WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE, BUT ON A, UH, MUNICIPALITY LEVEL, THAT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT. 
          SO MOST ARE JUST NOT EVEN AWARE. 
          SO UNLESS SOMEONE IS REACHING OUT TO THEM MARKETING THIS PROGRAM, THEY ARE NOT EVEN AWARE THAT THEY'RE OUT OF COMPLIANCE ON THIS. 
          AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THAT, UH, RETENTION, UH, PIECE IS THAT IF ANYTIME THERE'S A EMPLOYEE THAT LEADS OR, UH, A, A BUSINESS LEADS OR NEW ONES COME IN, THEN THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE KIND OF SEEING THAT, UH, REDUCTION THERE. 
          SO ONTO THE DECISION PACKAGE HERE. 
          UM, WAYNE, I JUST TO TIE THAT OUT ON THAT, JUST TO TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE WE'RE NOT GONNA CHARGE THAT FEE ANYMORE AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO THE SURVEY, UM, FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT WAYNE LAID OUT, JUST TO BE KIND OF CLEAR ABOUT WHAT OUR CAPITAL IS AND WHEN WILL THAT BE SHUT DOWN GOING INTO THIS YEAR? THIS, THAT WOULD BE PLAN. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE THE LAST, THE ONE THAT WE DID IN 24, WILL YOUR LAST ONE THAT WE DO IN THAT MANNER. 
          UM, SO IN, IN LIEU OF THAT, WE ARE KIND OF ASKING, UH, FOR COUNCIL TO IMPLEMENT A PILOT PROGRAM. 
          THIS IS A, UH, VERY INNOVATIVE, NEVER, NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE PROGRAM, UM, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING. 
          SO THIS IS AN EMPLOYEE MEAL VOUCHERS. 
          UH, THE GENESIS FROM THIS IS KIND OF GETTING OUT THERE WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO SOME OF OUR BUSINESSES THAT RETURN TO OFFICE. 
          UM, AND JUST SOME OF THE, THE, UH, ISSUES THAT WE'RE KIND OF STRUGGLING WITH, WITH UNDERSTANDING, UM, HOW OUR INCENTIVE PROGRAMS WORK. 
          SO TRADITIONALLY THEY'VE BEEN A JOBS BASED INCENTIVES, AND IT'S, UM, SO WHEN YOU'RE DOING A JOB BASED INCENTIVE, THE, THE IDEA HAS ALWAYS BEEN, HEY, THESE FOLKS ARE GONNA COME INTO TOWN, THEY'RE GONNA SPEND THEIR MONEY IN TOWN. 
          AND THAT'S HOW WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA GET AN ROI OFF THAT INCENTIVE. 
          BUT IN TODAY'S WORLD, IT'S, IT'S REALLY HARD TO EVEN TELL WHAT, WHAT THAT MEANS ANYMORE. 
          SO, UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS AS WE'RE TALKING TO SOME OF THOSE EMPLOYEES AND SAYING, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING TO BRING THE FOLKS BACK IN THE OFFICE? WELL, IT'S MAKING THE OFFICE MORE, UH, INVITING. 
          IT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THING WE HEARD OVER AND OVER, HEY, WE'RE BUYING A LUNCH WHEN THEY COME. 
          IF YOU COME IN ON THIS DAY, WE'RE GONNA BUY YOU LUNCH. 
          SO I THINK THAT IS A BENEFIT THAT, THAT WE LOOKED AT AS LIKE, HEY, THE TOWN OF ADDISON CAN PROVIDE THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, AND WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT IT TOO IS THAT IT IS, THE OTHER OLD WAY IS MORE OF A TOP DOWN. 
          THIS IS MORE OF A BOTTOM UP AND IT GETS RIGHT TO THOSE EMPLOYEES. 
          AND SO THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FEELING THAT, THAT LOVE FROM ADDISON AS WELL. 
          AND IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE COMPANY LINE THERE. 
          UM, AND FOR US AS WELL, THIS IS A, A NEW BRE TOUCHPOINT THAT WHEN WE REACH OUT TO BUSINESSES AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THIS NEW PROGRAM. 
          WE WANNA OFFER A NEW BENEFIT TO YOUR EMPLOYEES, YOU'RE STRUGGLING GETTING THEM INTO THE OFFICE, CAN YOU SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH US? UM, AND THEN ALSO, HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS SURVEY. 
          SO TO BE HELPFUL FOR THIS, WE'D LIKE FOR YOU TO FILL OUT THIS SURVEY, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, INCENTIVIZES, UH, OUR BUSINESS RESIDENTS TO, TO WORK FROM THE OFFICE. 
          AND THEN, THIS IS THE THING THAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THIS, IS THAT IT IS ACCESS A DOUBLE INCENTIVE, RIGHT? SO IT'S AN INCENTIVE TO OUR, OUR COMPANIES 'CAUSE WE'RE GIVING A BENEFIT TO THOSE EMPLOYEES, BUT IT'S ALSO A, A BENEFIT TO OUR GREATEST AMENITY. 
          AND THAT IS OUR GREAT ADDISON RESTAURANTS. 
          AND SO THEY'RE GONNA BE TAKING THOSE DOLLARS, WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE SPENT IN OUR ECONOMY AND IT'S, IT'S GONNA BENEFIT OUR RESTAURANTS JUST IN A, A MEETING TODAY. 
          AND THEY TALK ABOUT WHAT THE SUCCESSFUL RESTAURANTS ARE, IS THEY'RE GONNA FILL UP AT NIGHT, YOU KNOW, A RESTAURANT'S GONNA HAVE THAT, BUT WHERE THEY REALLY MAKE THEIR MONEY IS THE LUNCHTIME CROWD. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY DIFFERENTIATES THE, THE, THE RESTAURANTS THAT STAY IN BUSINESS AND THE ONES THAT GO OUT OF BUSINESS. 
          UM, SO THIS, THIS KIND OF GOES INTO THOSE KEY FOCUS AREAS THAT, UH, COUNCIL TALKED ABOUT, PURSUE NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS TO RE REISE DECLINING AREAS AND EXPLORE, UH, NEW TOOLS OR GRANT PROGRAMS WITH PROPERTY OWNERS TO ADAPT BUILDINGS TO THE, THE MODERN WORKFORCE. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A, A ONE TIME AS AS A PILOT PROGRAM. 
          AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANNA LOOK AT THIS, AND I'LL TALK A BIT MORE ABOUT THE, THE PROGRAM ITSELF, BUT, UH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF GATHER SOME DATA, UNDERSTAND IT, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY USE THIS AS A BUSINESS ATTRACTION AND A BUSINESS RETENTION INCENTIVE TOOLS, UH, MOVING IN THE FUTURE. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT IS THIS? THIS IS CALLED THE OPEN REWARDS. 
          UH, OPEN REWARDS IS THE APP AND IT'S KIND OF APTLY, UH, NAMED 
          [02:30:01]
THAT THE, THE PARENT COMPANY IS CALLED BLUE DOT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY THOUGHT THIS WAS GREAT. 
          AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING CALLING THIS A BLUE DOT PROGRAM. 
          IT GOES RIGHT IN WITH, WITH THE ADDISON LOGO. 
          UM, SO WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS THAT THEY TOUT? IT DIRECTLY STIMULATES YOUR ECONOMY. 
          IT KEEPS THE LOCAL DOLLARS LOCAL AND, YOU KNOW, CONSUMERS, BUSINESSES LOVE IT, AND BUSINESSES GROW, UH, THE GREAT. 
          AND SO REALLY, THIS, THIS WHOLE PROGRAM WOULD NOT HAPPEN WITHOUT THE UPDATE OF TECHNOLOGY, AND IT'S REALLY THE TECHNOLOGY THAT MAKES THIS WORK. 
          SO THERE'S NO ACTIONS REQUIRED BY THE RESTAURANTS. 
          THIS, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO KNOW. 
          WE'LL LET THEM KNOW, BUT THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO KNOW THAT FOLKS ARE COMING IN THERE AND USING THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY THE WAY THIS, UH, THIS WORKS IS ONCE THEY MAKE A PURCHASE, THEY TAKE THEIR RECEIPT, THEY UPLOAD IT IN THE APP, UH, THE APP USES SOME ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TO KIND OF READ THAT RECEIPT, MATCHES IT, UH, BASED ON A GEOFENCING LOCATION WITHIN THE TOWN OF ADDISON. 
          AND THEN WHAT, WHAT THEY CAN DO THEN IS, UM, WE, WE WILL LOAD A WALLET. 
          UH, SO WE CAN, UH, EACH OF THOSE EMPLOYEES WILL HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WALLET. 
          WE LOAD THE FUNDS INTO THAT WALLET, AND THEN ONCE THEY'VE SHOWN, UH, PROOF OF PURCHASE, THEN THEY CAN SUBMIT FOR, UM, A PAYMENT VIA VENMO SELL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT INTO THEIR BANK ACCOUNT. 
          SO, UH, HOW EXACTLY WOULD THIS WORK? UH, OUR PRIMARY TARGET WOULD BE PRIMARY EMPLOYEES, UH, OR EMPLOYERS. 
          SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? UH, THAT WOULD NOT BE THE RESTAURANTS OURSELVES, RIGHT? SO A PRIMARY EMPLOYER IS SOMEONE THAT DOES BUSINESS PRIMARILY OUTSIDE OF THE REGION BEING ADDISON. 
          UM, SO YOUR YOUR RE YOUR RETAIL STORES, YOUR SERVICE STATIONS, YOUR HAIRCUT, PLACES THOSE UP WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TARGETING HERE. 
          UM, UM, IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE, THEN WE WOULD ASK THAT THOSE COMPANIES THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE, THEY TAKE, THEY TAKE THE BUSINESS SURVEY AND WE ESTIMATE OF THOSE PRIMARY EMPLOYEES, THERE'S ABOUT 68,000 IN IN TOWN. 
          UH, EACH EMPLOYEE WOULD GET A SINGLE $10 VOUCHER. 
          UM, AND THEN WE, WE ANTICIPATE THE WAY THAT THIS BUDGET OF $200,000 IS ABOUT A 30% PARTICIPATION RATE OF THOSE 68,000 EMPLOYEES PRIMARY, UH, EMPLOYEES. 
          AND THEN AS I STATED EARLIER, THE, THE GOAL IS TO HOPEFULLY USE THIS DATA TO INFORM, YOU KNOW, FUTURE USE OF VOUCHERS AS PART OF OUR INCENTIVE STRATEGY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, YOU WANT ME TO STOP THERE? YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          QUESTION FOR WAYNE. 
          SO FAR, DO THE VOUCHERS EXPIRE? UH, OR, UH, THEY, IT IS, THEY CAN, SO, AND, AND WE DEFINITELY, I THINK WE'LL DO THAT. 
          UM, SO WE HAVEN'T QUITE WORKED OUT ALL THE DETAILS. 
          THERE'S STILL A LOT OF MOVING PARTS HERE, BUT BEFORE WE KIND OF WENT TO BUILD OUT THE WHOLE PROGRAM, WE KIND OF WANTED TO GET FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THE TRICK YOU WANT TO GO. 
          BUT YEAH, CERTAINLY YOU DO WANT TO PUT AN EXPIRATION IN THEM BECAUSE THE, THERE'S REALLY TWO WALLETS. 
          SO WHEN WE PUT THE FUNDS, WE'RE GONNA PUT A FUND INTO A COMPANY WALLET, AND THEN WITHIN THAT COMPANY WALLET, THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL HAVE THE, WELL, YOU'LL HAVE MULTIPLE, MORE THAN TWO WALLETS, BUT THAT YOU'LL HAVE THE EMPLOYEE WALLETS. 
          AND SO LET'S JUST SAY THREE MONTHS, RIGHT? WE'LL SAY, HEY, YOU'VE GOT THREE MONTHS TO USE THESE FUNDS. 
          AT, AT THE END OF THAT THREE MONTHS, THEN THAT, THEN THOSE FUNDS WOULD, WOULD COME OUT OF THAT COMPANY WALLET AND GO BACK INTO OUR ACCOUNT FUND. 
          YEP. 
          AND THEN, UM, ONE PLACE ON ONE OF THE SLIDES, UH, HERE, YOU SAID NEW BRE TOUCHPOINT, AND I CAN'T COME UP WITH WHAT, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          UH, BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANDS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          SO JUST THE, UH, RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE WITH OUR CURRENT BUSINESSES. 
          SO IF YOU GO BACK TO, AND I KNOW YOU DIDN'T DO IT HERE IN YOUR OBJECTIVES ON BULLET FORM FIVE, SO THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO AN ACTIVE BUSINESS SURVEY. 
          SO THAT HAS TO DO WITH MOVING TO THE MONKEY SURVEY. 
          YES. 
          AND THEN LEVERAGING EXISTING AND NEW PARTNERSHIPS TO HOST BUSINESS ENGAGEMENT EVENTS. 
          WHAT KIND OF THINGS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THERE? SO THAT'S, UH, SO, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF GROUPS THAT KIND OF DO THESE, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE, UH, B SO LIKE BIZ NOW, LIKE WE HAVE A, A BIZ ELEMENT THAT'S COMING IN OCTOBER, UH, TO SPECTRUM CENTER. 
          AND SO THEY HAVE A, A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE OF REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS. 
          UM, AND SO WE REALLY WANT TO LEAN INTO THAT. 
          SO, SO WHEN WE MAKE THESE INVESTMENTS, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE THESE TALENT EVENTS IS LEVERAGING OTHER, UH, GROUPS, NETWORKS, UH, METRO PRESS, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, UH, WE'RE, IT TALKS WITH THEM. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE CREATING AN, UM, AN INDUSTRIAL ALLIANCE. 
          AND THEN, SO KIND OF CREATING THESE, THESE QUARTERLY ROUND TABLES AND THEN, SO SUPPORTING THEM ON THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, AND THEN, UH, WITH THE NORTH DALLAS CHAMBER 
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OF COMMERCE, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON HOW CAN WE ALSO DO SOME SIMILAR EVENTS WHERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE HAVE SOME MORE TECH FOCUSED TYPE LUNCH AND LEARNS AND WE KIND OF SPONSOR THOSE, THOSE EVENTS AND BRING THOSE TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND REALLY KIND OF LEVERAGING THEIR NETWORK, BRINGING SOME BUSINESSES THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, EITHER DOING BUSINESS OR HAVE THEIR OPERATIONS HERE IN TOWN. 
          LET 'EM SEE THE TOWN OF ADDISON SHOW OFF SOME OF OUR SPACES, AND THEN HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE CAN LEARN A LITTLE SOMETHING AND, AND, AND HAVE SOME BUSINESS SHARE INFORMATION. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THE, ON THE BLUE DOT, THE OPEN REWARDS, UM, IF WE FUND THAT TO THE 200,000 AND THE VOUCHERS EXPIRE, THEY DON'T GET USED. 
          DOES THAT COME BACK TO US OR DOES IT STAY THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE USED IN THAT PROGRAM? UM, IT COULD, IT COULD STAY IN THE PROGRAM. 
          UM, WE, BUT ULTIMATELY IT WOULD JUST COME BACK INTO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND BALANCE IN THE END. 
          SO IF WE FELT IT WAS SUCCESS AND THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SUCCESS AND WE COULD CONTINUE ON WITH IT OR WE COULD USE IT. 
          DID YOU SAY THAT THE, THE BUSINESSES THAT YOU'RE GONNA GIVE THESE FUNDS TO ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN ADDISON TO ATTRACT THEM TO COME TO ADDISON? UM, NO. 
          SO, SO FOR THE PILOT PROGRAM, THESE WOULD BE CURRENT, UH, ADDISON BUSINESSES. 
          UM, THE DATA THAT WE KIND OF COLLECT FROM THIS AND WHETHER, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW. 
          IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. 
          WE DON'T KNOW HOW SUCCESSFUL IT'S GONNA BE. 
          SO IF IT IS A SUCCESS, WE WOULD MAYBE LOOK AT THAT AS PART OF OUR INCENTIVE STRATEGY TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES TO THE TOWN OF MADISON. 
          BUT THE, DOES THE VOUCHERS HAVE TO BE USED AT ADDISON BUSINESS? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          IF, IF WE HAVE A, SO, UH, WITHIN THE APP, UH, I'M SORRY, UH, TALKING ABOUT HERE, BUT SO THEY HAVE, UM, GEOLOCATION AND SO THEY CAN PUT A-A-G-I-S, UH, SHAPE FILE OVER THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND IF, AND THEN WITHIN THAT, THE, THE RECEIPT WILL HAVE AN ADDRESS, HOW IT'S USED, WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, WE CAN AUDIT IT AND SEE TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT IT IS ONLY USED AT ADDISON RESTAURANTS. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS. 
          IT  IT'S THE TECHNOLOGY THAT MAKES IT . 
          OKAY. 
          SO I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          THE 17,000 THAT WE'D BE GIVING UP, ARE WE CHARGING ANYTHING FOR THESE SURVEYS OR THOSE ARE NO, SO, WELL, I MEAN, REALLY THIS IS AN INCENTIVE TO TAKE THE SURVEY AS WELL, RIGHT? SO THAT'S KIND OF THE IDEA. 
          IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE HAVE THIS NEW SURVEY PROGRAM, WE ALSO HAVE THIS NEW EMPLOYEE MEAL VOUCHER PROGRAM. 
          IF YOU'D LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE EMPLOYEE MEAL VOUCHER PROGRAM, WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU PARTICIPATE, PARTICIPATE IN THE SURVEY, AND WHAT IS THE SURVEY GONNA TELL? SO THE SURVEY TELLS US, UH, JUST EVERY TELLS US ABOUT WHAT OUR BUSINESSES ARE DOING. 
          SO BASIC FACTS, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU HAVE, UH, DO YOU OWN? DO YOU LEASE? WHEN IS YOUR LEASE? UH, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT KIND OF GIVES US SOME MARKET INSIGHTS. 
          UH, DO YOU PLAN ON HIRING? DO YOU PLAN ON DOWNSIZING? ARE YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU HAPPY WITH YOUR, YOUR CURRENT, YOU KNOW, UH, FACILITIES? DO YOU HAVE PLANS ON EXPANDING? UM, DO YOU PLAN, DO YOU HAVE PLANS ON LEAVING? YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST THOSE, THOSE GENERAL QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN, WE CAN ADAPT. 
          AND IT REALLY JUST HELPS US GET A PULSE ON THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THE ECONOMY. 
          UM, AND THEN REALLY ONCE, LIKE, AS WE KIND OF SET SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS UP, SOME OF THAT DATA MIGHT COME IN AND LIKE, THAT'S WHERE I KIND OF TALKED ABOUT DOING LIKE SORT OF ALPHA AND BETA TESTING IS LIKE, OH, IF, IF WE ASK THIS QUESTION, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE GET A RESPONSE HERE? OR MAYBE, YOU KNOW, OUR, THEY, THEY DIDN'T RESPOND TO THAT IF WE, WE GET THIS INFORMATION. 
          SO REALLY KIND OF BEING ADAPTABLE AND, AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR, OUR BUSINESS NEEDS ARE. 
          AND, AND JUST OFTENTIMES JUST ASKING THEM LIKE, HEY, WHAT, WHAT CAN THE TOWN OF ADDISON DO TO MAKE IT MORE SUCCESSFUL? AND JUST GIVING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO COMMUNICATE TO US AND FOR US TO LEARN ABOUT THEM. 
          I DON'T MEAN TO BE NEGATIVE. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GONNA SPEND $200,000 TO HEAR THEIR COMPLAINTS KIND OF, I MEAN, HEAR WHAT THEY NEED OR WANT, WHICH WILL TAKE OFF THIS MORNING. 
          UM, I'M KIND OF, I WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE GONNA GAIN FROM. 
          SO I, SO I, IT ALSO IS, SO GOING BACK TO THE BRE TOUCH POINT, IT'S, IT'S A WAY FOR US TO ADD VALUE BACK TO OUR BUSINESSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY HERE. 
          UM, AND AND TO SO APPRECIATION TO THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE, THAT ARE COMING INTO THE OFFICE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT TO SUPPORT AND KIND OF PARTNER WITH THOSE BUSINESSES. 
          SAY, HEY, ADDISON IS HERE WITH YOU. 
          WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH YOU. 
          WE, WE APPRECIATE, UH, 
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YOUR EMPLOYEES COMING INTO TOWN. 
          AND THEN YEAH, IF, IF THEY'RE UNHAPPY, THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE, WE DO WANNA KNOW ABOUT. 
          HOW DO WE FIX IT? WE, WE WANT YOU HERE. 
          AND, AND IT COULD BE SOMETHING SIMPLE THAT, THAT WE COULD RESOLVE. 
          SO IS THERE GONNA BE A COST? POSSIBLY, BUT IT, IT, IT MAY NOT, IT MAY JUST BE A SIMPLE REALLOCATION OF RESOURCES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATIONS WITH, HEY, WE, WE'VE HAD SOME TROUBLE IN THE PARKING LOT. 
          CAN WE GET PD TO COME OUT? AND, YOU KNOW, THEN PD CAN COME BACK OUT, YOU KNOW, AROUND THERE. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE TYPE OF INFORMATION WE WOULDN'T KNOW UNLESS WE, SOMEONE'S KIND OF TOLD US. 
          UM, AND SO HAVING THOSE FACE-TO-FACE IS GREAT, BUT THIS IS A WAY FOR US TO, UH, SCALE AND KIND OF GET MORE OF THAT FEEDBACK. 
          I WOULD, I WOULD JUST ADD, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE SURVEY, JUST EVEN JUST, WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE WE JUST WANNA GET THE NAMES OF THE, OF THE CONTACT PEOPLE AND THE BUSINESSES. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE HAVING SUCH LOW RESPONSE TO BUSINESS REGISTRATION THAT IF WE SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO GO DO A VISIT WITH THIS COMPANY, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO TO CONTACT WHERE THEY ARE. 
          SO THAT HELPS WITH THAT. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO THE SURVEY THAT WE GET FROM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE OTHER BENEFIT OF THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE, IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM TO SAY, DO WE USE IT AS INCENTIVES TO, TO TALK ABOUT DEBT FOR BUSINESSES TO COME HERE? AND WE LOOK AT THAT, THAT TOOLKIT THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO, UM, I THINK ALL THOSE BENEFITS PLAY INTO WHY WE'RE PROPOSING THIS. 
          DO WE NOT GET THAT FROM THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY APPLICATIONS? YEP. 
          WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION, BUT IT CHANGES. 
          SO YOU HAVE THE PERSON WHO DID IT WHEN THEY DID THE CO AND THEN IT'S OUTDATED, AND THEN I THINK THAT'S WHAT WAYNE'S RIGHT INTO RIGHT. 
          A BIT. 
          AND HOW, UH, WAYNE, HOW DIFFICULT OR HOW EASY IS IT FOR YOU TO JUST PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL, UH, AN ADDISON BUSINESS AND, AND, UH, GET TO COMMUNICATE WITH 'EM? UM, GETTING TO THAT'S EASY. 
          GETTING SOMEONE TO PICK UP THE PHONE, BUT GETTING TO THE RIGHT PERSON, RIGHT? WHO'S THE DECISION MAKER? WHO, WHO HAS ALL OF THOSE ANSWERS CAN BE DIFFICULT. 
          UM, AND THIS, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S GETTING THERE USING THIS TO KIND OF SET THAT UP TO GET THAT FACE TO FACE TO KIND OF GET THAT INTERACTION. 
          'CAUSE MOST BUSINESSES DON'T, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WHEN THEY'RE INTERACTING WITH THE CITY OR THE GOVERNMENT, IT'S USUALLY THERE'S A PROBLEM. 
          AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE, HOW DO WE BE PROACTIVE? HOW DO WE GET OUT THERE AND HOW DO WE, UH, TALK TO 'EM BEFORE THERE'S A PROBLEM? AND, YOU KNOW, UM, I JUST, I HAD A MEETING WITH, UH, MAA TODAY. 
          THEY, THEY WERE HAVING SOME ISSUES AND SAID, HEY, UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME RESPONSE BACK SAID, HEY, I'M, I'M SORRY THAT'S, THAT'S HAPPENED, BUT I MOVING FORWARD, LOOP ME IN AND I'M THE CONTACT. 
          AND I, AND PROBABLY WHAT IT IS, IS THEY MAY NOT BE CONTACTING THE RIGHT PERSON. 
          AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I CAN DO IS I CAN FILTER THAT TO YOU. 
          SO IF THAT RELATIONSHIP JUST ISN'T THERE, UM, IT, IT'S DIFFICULT. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE IDEA HERE IS GETTING, GETTING MORE OF THOSE BRA TOUCHPOINT GIVING, UH, MORE OF THAT VALUE PROPOSITION AS WE TALK TO THEM. 
          HEY, UH, IF I CALL 'EM CAN I HELP YOU? WELL, I, I'VE GOT A VALUE PROPOSITION FOR YOU. 
          I WANNA, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR EMPLOYEE MEAL VOUCHER PROGRAM. 
          SO, SO, SO THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TARGETING HERE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO THESE ARE PRIMARY EMPLOYERS. 
          UM, I KNOW, UM, I HAVE IT HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO A PRIMARY EMPLOYER IS SOMEONE THAT THEIR, THEIR SERVICES, THEIR, UH, THEIR REVENUES COME FROM OUTSIDE OF THE REGION, SO THAT MEANS THAT WHATEVER THEIR ACTIVITIES THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE BRINGING REVENUES INTO THE TOWN OF ADDISON. 
          UM, SO MANUFACTURING, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY JUST ABOUT ANYBODY THAT DOES LIKE OFFICE TYPE IS THERE, WHAT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ARE THE RESTAURANTS THEMSELVES, BECAUSE PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AS IMPROPER, BUT THAT, THAT THE, THAT BUSINESS IS HAPPENING HERE. 
          WHEREAS, UH, YOU KNOW, A GOOGLE, RIGHT, THEIR, THEIR REACH IS GOING, YOU KNOW, NATIONALLY. 
          AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S A PRIMARY EMPLOYER PRIMARY. 
          AND SO DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, LIKE EMPLOYEE NUMBER COUNT, LIKE, UM, 68,000 IS WHAT WE ESTIMATE WOULD BE THAT TOTAL AMOUNT OF, OF PRIMARY EMPLOYEES IN TOWN. 
          SO WE HAVE A, A DATABASE CALLED JOB ZQ AND BASED ON, AND THAT GETS, UH, DATA FROM THE BBL S CENSUS. 
          AND THAT'S THE NUMBER PART, PART OF THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE SURVEY TOO IS ONCE WE START COLLECTING THIS DATA, WE CAN DO OUR OWN, YOU KNOW, STATISTICAL ANALYSIS AND WE CAN MAYBE HONE IN ON WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY IS OUR EMPLOYEE ACCOUNT. 
          SO THAT'S OKAY. 
          SO, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE YOU, YOU'RE SAYING, UH, A PRIMARY EMPLOYER IS ONE THAT HAS 50 TO A HUNDRED 
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EMPLOYEES. 
          AND THEN, OKAY, SO YOU SAID ABOUT A 30% PARTICIPATION, SO IT'S ROUGHLY $20,010 A VOUCHER. 
          IS THAT 2 0 4? WHAT? I THINK IT'S 204,000. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THE COST IS 200,000. 
          IF IT WAS $10 A PIECE FOR 20,000 PEOPLE, ISN'T THAT 200,000? SO IS IT A ONE TIME, IS IT ONE TIME LUNCH ONE TIME, YEP. 
          AND THAT'S IT. 
          YEP. 
          AND YOU'RE DOING IT TO HOPEFULLY GET THE SURVEYS BACK SO WE GET THE INFORMATION THAT WE WANT. 
          SO WE'RE SPENDING 200,000 AND, AND TO ONCE AGAIN HAVE THAT, THAT, THAT CONTACT WITH, WITH THOSE EMPLOYERS, RIGHT? REACHING OUT, HAVING THAT CONTACT AND, AND DEVELOPING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS FOR, FOR FUTURE. 
          SO THE BUSINESS REGISTRATION, WHAT I LIKED ABOUT IT WAS WE KNEW INDUSTRIES, WE KNEW WHO HAD HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, WE KNEW EMPLOYEE COUNTS. 
          IT ONLY WORKS IF PEOPLE DO IT RIGHT? AND IT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE BUSINESS SURVEY. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GIVE THESE VOUCHERS TO SOME OF THESE EMPLOYEES, BUT WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO TO GET A, A BETTER PARTICIPATION RATE WITH THE BUSINESS SURVEY? UM, BECAUSE I, I, I THINK IT'S USELESS IF, IF, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, TRY TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO GET MORE INVOLVEMENT. 
          UH, I MEAN, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING TO GET A 30% PART PARTICIPATION RATE AND BUILD UPON THAT. 
          BUT, UM, AT THE BUSINESS REGISTRATION WAS, WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE DOWN BELOW, I THINK'S ABOUT 20% WITH THE PAST ONES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS, IS TO, IS TO GROW IT, RIGHT? SO IF WE START OUT AT 30%, WE KEEP COMING BACK ANNUALLY. 
          WE CAN, WHEN WE TARGET, WE CAN BE, UH, TARGET, UH, GEO GEOGRAPHICALLY. 
          WE CAN TARGET SPECIFIC BUILDINGS, WE CAN TARGET BY INDUSTRIES. 
          UM, AND HOPEFULLY SOME OF THAT DATA KIND OF COMES BACK AND WE CAN KIND OF SEE, HEY, WE, WE SAW SOMETHING IN, UH, INTERESTING IN THIS INDUSTRY. 
          WE SAW SOMETHING INTERESTING IN THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING. 
          AND THEN THAT CAN REALLY KIND OF FOCUS OUR EFFORTS. 
          CAN WE GET 'EM TO DO THAT WHEN THEY APPLY FOR A CO YEAH, WE COULD INTEGRATE, UH, PART OF THAT, UH, INTO THE CO PROCESS. 
          BUT, UM, ONCE AGAIN, I THINK IT'S, IT'S THE, TO YOUR POINT, IT'S LIKE IT'S THE ANNUAL, RIGHT? AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF BEEN THE, UM, FAILING POINT IN THE BUSINESS. 
          REGISTRATION IS THE ONLY TIME THAT THEY CAN PUT THAT INFORMATION IN AT CO. 
          THE IDEA BEHIND THE SURVEY IS IT'S AN ANNUAL THING AND IT'S UPDATED ANNUALLY AS OPPOSED TO OKAY. 
          THE ONE TIME WHEN THEY COME IN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN MOVING ON TO THE MEAL VOUCHERS, I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MUCH INTO THE WEED OF THIS, BUT IN THE WEEDS, BUT HOW, WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP DO WE HAVE WITH THE BUILDING OWNERS? 'CAUSE IT, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE'RE TARGETING THE BUSINESSES, WHICH I GET IT. 
          THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          BUT IF I'M THE OWNER OF THESE BUILDINGS AND THE TOWN THAT I'M IN IS FEEDING MY TENANTS, I'M PRETTY EXCITED. 
          'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA STAY HAPPY AND THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO PAY RENT. 
          SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT I I, I FEEL LIKE A BETTER WAY OF DOING IT WOULD BE REACHING OUT TO THE BUSINESS OF BUSINESS, THE BUILDING OWNERS, UM, AND, AND TRY TO MARKET THAT WAY. 
          I MEAN, THEY HAVE RENT ROLES. 
          THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHO THE CONTACT PERSON IS AT EACH INDIVIDUAL TENANT. 
          UM, I MEAN TO, FOR A NUMBER, FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED, THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND WE'LL KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT THE VACANCY IS IN THAT BUILDING, AND WE'LL KNOW IF WE NEED TO HELP SOMEHOW FOCUS ON THAT BUILDING. 
          UM, I, I, I APPLAUD YOU FOR THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX. 
          UM, I'M OKAY WITH TRYING TO DO IT AS A PILOT PROGRAM. 
          200,000 IS A LOT, 200,000 IS A BIG PART OF YOUR BUDGET. 
          AND I HOPE THERE'S ENOUGH IN YOUR BUDGET TO, TO CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO BROKERS AND ACTIVELY SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THIS MANY OFFICE TOWERS IN ADDISON. 
          UM, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WHY YOUR, YOUR TENANTS SHOULD BE COMING. 
          YOUR CLIENT SHOULD BE COMING TO ADDISON. 
          SO, I MEAN, THAT, THAT, BECAUSE WHERE I FEEL LIKE HOWARD WAS GOING WITH HIS COMMENTS IS, WE'RE REWARDING PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY HERE. 
          WE NEED TO ATTRACT NEW PEOPLE. 
          UM, YES. 
          AND I THINK IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO, UM, GOING BACK, YOU KNOW, INSIDE SALES, CUSTOMER RETENTION, RIGHT? I THINK IT'S, IT'S THE, THE OTHER KIND OF IDEA. 
          WELL, LEMME, THIS MIGHT BE ONE COMMENT AS YOU'RE PULLING THAT UP, WAYNE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS TOO IS WHAT WE, THESE ARE ALL GREAT POINTS AND GREAT QUESTIONS. 
          UM, WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO, WE'RE IN THIS KIND OF 
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IN DIFFERENT PARADIGM AS WELL. 
          YOU KNOW, WE FOCUS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES, WHEN WE FOCUS ON THESE GRANTS AND SAY THEY'RE JOB BASED, HOW DO WE ENSURE THEY'RE ACTUALLY HERE, RIGHT? WHEN WE, WHEN WE SAY JOBS NOW, HOW DO WE ENSURE THE FOLKS ARE ACTUALLY HERE? SO COULD THIS PILOT PROGRAM BE A SMALL, IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S NOT THE BIGGEST PIECE, BUT BE SOME PIECE TO THAT IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION I THINK WAYNE WAS TRYING TO, TO GET TO. 
          UM, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND TRYING TO MAKE IT SO THAT THEY'RE ATTRACTIVE, THAT IS THE FOCUS OF WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND I THINK WAYNE CAN SPEAK TO THAT. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THOSE, THOSE BUILDINGS TO SAY, HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE AMENITIES YOU NEED FOR THE BUSINESSES ACTUALLY WANT TO BE HERE? BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY NOT WORK FROM HOME. 
          THEY, THEY WANT TO BE THERE AND THE BUSINESSES WANT THEIR FOLKS TO COME IN. 
          SO I THINK IT'S ALL TIED TOGETHER. 
          I THINK THOSE ARE ALL GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          CHRIS, I THINK, I THINK IT'S A BOTH ENDS. 
          WHERE YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU TARGET THE, THE BUILDING OWNER AND THE BUSINESSES, BECAUSE THAT'S AS THE, THE R OF THE BRE EFFORTS OF THE RETENTION. 
          JUST LIKE, JUST LIKE EMPLOYEES, IT'S COST A LOT MORE TO GO OUT AND GET NEW EMPLOYEES THAN IT DOES TO PERTAIN TO ONES YOU CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          SAME THING WITH BUSINESSES, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS A LOT, YOU KNOW, WHERE BECAUSE OF OUR SMALL SIZE, WE, WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT MOST CITIES CAN'T DO. 
          SO WE CAN OFFER SOME SERVICES AND HAVE BIZNOW EVENTS OR WHATEVER EVENTS THAT, THAT YOU CAN CREATE THIS COMMUNITY OF, OF BUSINESSES THAT, 'CAUSE FOR THE MOST PART, THEY, THEY ALL COME IN, THEY DO THEIR THING, AND THEY THEN THEY GO THEIR SEPARATE WAYS, BUT, AND THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT EACH OTHER EXISTS. 
          AND SO HOW, SO HOW CAN WE CREATE THESE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE WANNA ENGAGE WITH THE, WITH THE OTHER BUSINESSES IN ADDISON AND CREATE SOMETHING THAT THEY, THEY CAN'T JUST GO GET DOWN THE ROAD SOMEWHERE. 
          IF THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEY'RE ON AN ISLAND AGAIN. 
          SO CAN WE CREATE SOMETHING THAT, THAT CREATES AN ENERGY THAT THEY WANNA BE PART OF? THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT. 
          AND, AND IT'S, IT'S, YOU $200,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY. 
          UM, BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, DO OTHER INCENTIVES AND THINGS IN THE BIG PICTURE, IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT NOT BE IF THEY WERE TO LEAVE AND THEN YOU GOT VACANT SPACE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, I GET YOUR POINT. 
          IT'S, IT'S NEW AND IT'S DIFFERENT AND, AND, UH, WILL IT WORK? HOPEFULLY, AND IT MIGHT NOT, BUT YOU GOTTA BE WILLING TO RISK FAILURE. 
          BUT I DEFINITELY THINK WHAT EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, THAT IT'S A, IT'S NOT AN EITHER OR. 
          IT IS A BOTH, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO TOUCH AND BE IN TOUCH WITH THAT PROPERTY OWNER. 
          MM-HMM. 
           AS WELL AS THOSE TENANTS. 
          THAT PROPERTY OWNER IS GOING TO GET REAL EXCITED THAT WE ARE TAKING CARE OF HIS TENANTS EMPLOYEES. 
          THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE, THEY'LL LOVE IT. 
          YOU KNOW? SO I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S REALLY A, A, A COMBINATION. 
          AND AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, BEING, BEING AFRAID THAT WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET FROM THE SURVEYS, THERE'S JUST GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, JUST AN EARFUL OF PROBLEMS. THAT'S OKAY TOO. 
          YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S OKAY. 
          YOU DON'T WANNA FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT TENANT HAD OR THAT BUILDING OWNER HAD AS A PROBLEM WHEN THEY'RE LEAVING TOWN. 
          YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT IT NOW. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, SO, I'M SORRY, I, I'M JUST HAVING TROUBLE WRAPPING MY HANDS AROUND THIS. 
          IF, OR ARMS, IF A $10 VOUCHER FOR LUNCH ONE TIME IS NOT MUCH , I MEAN, IT'S, MIGHT NOT EVEN PAY FOR LUNCH. 
          SO I, I'M WONDERING, LIKE, YOU'RE GONNA DO IT ONE TIME TO GET A SURVEY, BUT YOU WANT THE SURVEYS TO BE ANNUAL, SO THEN EVERY YEAR YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE HIM A $10 LUNCH TO GET A I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA WORK, IS WHAT I'M GUESS I'M SAYING. 
          AND I DO, UH, CHRIS WAS RIGHT, HE, HE, HE DID CATCH ON TO WHAT I WAS SAYING. 
          I MEAN, I WANNA ATTRACT NEW BUSINESSES TO TOWN, BUT I ALSO WANT TO RETAIN, SAME THING WITH THE POLICE AND THE FIRE. 
          GOTTA DO BOTH. 
          IT'S THE SAME THING. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I JUST DON'T, I'M NOT, I'M NOT GETTING THIS PRO, I MEAN, I'VE APPLAUD YOU FOR TRYING SOMETHING NEW TOO. 
          I'M, I JUST, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE SOLUTION. 
          HOW MANY BUSINESSES ARE THERE THAT WE'RE TRYING, I MEAN, YOU SAID 68,000 EMPLOYEES. 
          WELL, YEAH, SO IT'S, THAT'S DIFFICULT. 
          WE, WE WERE ABLE TO WELL'S 3000 WHEN WE HAVE THAT DATA, 3000 BUSINESSES, 68,000 EMPLOYEES. 
          SO, AND YOUR PRIMARY EMPLOYERS ARE GONNA BE YOUR, TO MARLON'S POINT, THEY TYPICALLY ARE YOUR LARGER EMPLOYER. 
          SO IT WOULD, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SAY, BUT IT WOULD BE MORE ON THE LOWER END, PROBABLY ABOUT A THOUSAND. 
          YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU IMAGINE MOST OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES MAKE UP ONE OR 2, 3, 4, 5 EMPLOYEES. 
          SO IT MAY BE CLOSER TO THE THOUSAND 500. 
          BUT WE, 
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WE TRIED TO ESTIMATE THAT THE BEST WE COULD DO IS REALLY COME UP WITH THE EMPLOYEE COUNT AT ABOUT 68,000. 
          WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. 
          THIS IS OUTSIDE THE BOX. 
          I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. 
          BUT IF YOU HAD 2000 BUSINESSES AND GAVE EACH BUSINESS A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO FILL OUT THE SURVEY, WOULD THAT GET THE SURVEY INSTEAD OF DOING THE LUNCH THING? AND HOW COULD YOU GIVE 'EM A HUNDRED DOLLARS SOME KIND OF TAX INCENTIVE OR SOMETHING? I, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT A HUNDRED DOLLARS WOULD GET ME TO FILL OUT ONE OF THOSE. 
          BUT PART OF THAT'S ALSO TO GET FOLKS INTO THE RESTAURANTS TOO, THAT THEY MIGHT THAT'S TRUE. 
          SO INSTEAD OF GOING ACROSS THE ROAD TO DALLAS OR CARROLL OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEY'RE GONNA GO TO AN ADDISON RESTAURANT. 
          AND, AND YET, TO YOUR POINT, $10 ISN'T GONNA BUY LUNCH ANYWHERE IN ADDISON EXCEPT, WELL, I MEAN, IT'S 200,000 WILL GO TO OUR BUSINESSES, SO THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. 
          COST. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND AND THEY'RE GONNA SPEND MORE THAN $10. 
          THAT'S TRUE TOO. 
          THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA TAKE THEIR OFFICE MATE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEY'RE, SO THEY'RE GONNA SPEND 20, $30 ON LUNCH PROBABLY. 
          I HOPE THEY GO BACK. 
          WELL, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'M JUST, I, I THINK IT'S ASK FOR QUESTIONS. 
          I'M JUST, AND JUST KIND OF FOLLOW IT. 
          IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE BUSINESS, IT'S ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES AS WELL. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S WHEN I KIND OF SAY LIKE BOTTOM UP AND THAT IF I'M AN EMPLOYEE, I LOVE WORKING IN ADDISON. 
          YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE EMPLOYER'S TALKING LIKE, OH, I HEARD WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MIGHT BE EXPANDING. 
          ARE WE STAYING IN ADDISON? ARE WE MOVING, OH, WE, YOU KNOW, WE LOVE ADDISON. 
          AND JUST TRYING, TRYING NEW THINGS IS, AS WE SAID, HERE IT IS, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A NEW PROGRAM. 
          IT'S NOT BEEN DONE. 
          SO WAYNE IS IS PART OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          ALSO, I THINK IN THE PAST WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE GONE OUT TO, LIKE, TO CHRIS'S POINT, GONE OUT TO, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS WHO BASICALLY DIRECTED US TO THEIR TENANTS. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN WE'VE GOT THESE, UH, CHAPTER THREE 80 GRANTS WITH, WITH BASICALLY THE EMPLOYERS, WHICH ARE THEIR TENANTS. 
          RIGHT? ARE WE STILL PLANNING ON DOING SOME OF THAT? YES. 
          AND SO I GUESS THIS WAS THE, THE ONE STEP I WAS KIND OF GOING AS WELL, AND THE MAYOR KIND OF ALLUDED TO IT, IS THIS IDEA THAT IT'S, IT'S CHEAPER TO KEEP A CUSTOMER THAN TO ACQUIRE A NEW ONE. 
          AND THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF THE OTHER THING. 
          STRATEGICALLY, WHEN, WHEN WE LOOK AT IT AND WE LOOK AT, UM, LET'S, OOPS, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS NUMBER I THINK IS THE ONE THAT JUST MATTERS THE MOST, IS WHEN WE KIND OF LOOK AT OUR COMPETITION AND THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES AND REVENUES WE HAVE TO, TO OFFER INCENTIVES, IT IS, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO COMPETE, YOU KNOW, POUND PER POUND. 
          AND THEN THIS, THIS OTHER SIDE IS KIND OF WHAT OUR STRENGTH IS. 
          THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEE, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS RESIDENTS, EMPLOYEES IN TOWN, THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL SPACE WE HAVE, BUT OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REVENUES RELATIVE TO THAT JUST ARE VERY LOW. 
          AND SO THE IDEA IF, IF PART OF THE PILOT, IF WE WERE TO MOVE THIS INTO PART OF OUR REGULAR INCENTIVE PROGRAM ON THE BRE, IS IF WE WERE TO OFFER SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, VERY LOW, LIKE A 5,000 OR A 10,000 TO A COMPANY, WELL THAT'S NOT PROBABLY EVEN, YOU KNOW, WORTH THEIR TIME TO EVEN FILL IT OUT. 
          BUT, BUT IT DOES MEAN A LOT OF SOMETHING TO THOSE EMPLOYEES. 
          IF THEY CAN USE THAT AND THEY CAN GO AND THEY CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER LONG THOSE FUNDS LAST, THAT COMPANY, IT PROBABLY MEANS A LOT TO THAT EMPLOYEE. 
          AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE POSITIVE FEELINGS ABOUT THE TOWN OF MADISON, UM, THAT WE HOPE WOULD PERMEATE THROUGHOUT THE CULTURE OF THE BUSINESS. 
          AND SO, JUST, JUST A WAY TO KIND OF GET DIRECTLY TO THOSE EMPLOYEES WITHOUT HAVING TO COME OUT BIG POCKET WHERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IN ALLEN, WHERE WE'RE DOING 300,000, I'M SORRY, WHEN I WAS IN THE TOWN OF ALLEN, WHEN I WAS IN THE CITY OF ALLEN, WHERE WE'RE DOING $300,000, UH, BUSINESS RETENTION GRANTS, RIGHT. 
          AND THE, THE AMOUNT OF OFFICE SPACE THAT THEY HAVE AS MIDDLE SCHOOL TO THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE, THE NUMBER OF BUSINESS, UH, BUSINESSES. 
          SO AS THESE, THESE COME UP AND WE'RE TRYING TO RETAIN THEM, IT IS A, A WAY TO, TO KIND OF BE COMPETITIVE IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WAY. 
          UM, AND YEAH, IT'S JUST KIND OF A, A NEWER WAY OF LOOKING AT IT, GOING DIRECTLY AT, AT THE EMPLOYEES, WHICH IF YOU TALK TO BUSINESSES, THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW, HOW DO I GET EMPLOYEES TO, TO COME TO, YOU KNOW, COME INTO THE OFFICE AND, AND TO SHOW UP. 
          SO THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I'LL MAKE THAT I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN IS, UM, DO WE DO ANYTHING WITH, UM, LIKE SPECIAL EVENT TICKETS OR VOUCHERS? YES. 
          UM, SO ABBY DOES, LIKE JUST, UH, JUST HERE FOR, UM, KABOOM TOWN WENT BY, DROPPED OFF SOME TICKETS TO, TO OUR, UH, BUSINESSES THERE. 
          SO THAT IS PART OF, SEE, I LOVE THAT IDEA BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NO COST TO THAT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IT HELPS US IN SO MANY WAYS. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. 
          SO I HAVE A COUPLE, COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          SO 
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WHO A PRIMARY EMPLOYER IS THAT LIKE A, FOR EXAMPLE, SERVICE BUSINESS THAT SERVICES MOST OF ADDISON, SO THEY'RE NOT ONE A CLEANERS THAT HAS 10 EMPLOYEES, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE INCLUDED. 
          THAT, THAT WOULD NOT, SO THAT'S CONSIDERED, YEAH. 
          SERVICE. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY OF SAYING WHAT'S NOT A PRIMARY EMPLOYER. 
          THAT WOULD BE SERVICE OF CLEANERS SALON IF, IF THEIR REVENUES ARE COMING PRIMARILY WITHIN THE TOWN THAT'S NOT A PRIMARY EMPLOYER. 
          INTERESTING. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE'LL GO INTO THE, THE REASONS FOR THAT. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE OTHER REASONS, BUT THIS IS LIKE A MULTI-PRONGED SMALL, UM, INCENTIVE FOR THE EMPLOYEE. 
          SO YOU SAID YOU SPOKE TO THE EMPLOYERS AND THEY WANT TO RETURN TO OFFICE WHILE THEY'RE TRYING TO INCREASE THAT RATE. 
          SO THIS IS A SMALL THING TO HELP THEM HAVE THE PEOPLE COME BACK IN THE OFFICE. 
          SO THIS IS A MULTI-PRONGED TYPE OF BENEFIT FROM IT, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          AND YOU GET A TOUCH POINT, YOU GET A REASON TO TALK TO THEM, YOU GET A REASON TO OPEN THE DOOR. 
          AND IN THAT TOUCH POINT, YOU CAN ASK FOR THE SURVEY TOO. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND IF THE EMPLOYEES USE THAT VOUCHER AS A SMALL AMOUNT TO MANY OF US, BUT TO SOME PEOPLE IT'S QUITE A LARGE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BIGGER DEAL. 
          AND PEOPLE WANT TO USE THE VOUCHER. 
          THEY SAY, I WANNA GO USE THIS, THIS COUPON I HAVE, IT'S GONNA TAKE THEM OUT TO ADDISON. 
          THEY'RE GONNA ENJOY ADDISON, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A BETTER PERCEPTION OF IT. 
          AND THESE ARE ALL SMALL TOUCHES. 
          WHEN EMPLOYERS THINK ABOUT WHERE THEY LOCATE, THEY THINK ABOUT WORKFORCE. 
          SO IF THEIR WORKFORCE LIKES ADDISON, OH, WE DON'T WANNA MOVE OUT OF HERE. 
          SO THAT'S JUST ANOTHER, UH, KIND OF TIE THAT YOU'RE BUILDING TO, TO KEEP 'EM HERE. 
          SO THIS IS THE BRE PART OF IT. 
          YOU DO OTHER PARTS TO ATTRACT, RIGHT? THIS IS NOT THE ATTRACT PART OF IT. 
          IT, IT, IT COULD BE A SMALL PART OF THAT, BUT IT'S, IT'S MORE OF THE BR RETENTION AND EXPANSION PART RETENTION. 
          SO IN YOUR OBJECTIVES, CAN YOU GO BACK UP TO YOUR OBJECTIVES? I DIDN'T SEE A LOT ABOUT THE ATTRACTION PART. 
          UM, 25 OBJECTIVES, UH,  25 OBJECTIVES. 
          DIDN'T SEE MUCH THERE. 
          I, I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT, I'M NECESSARILY SURE. 
          JUST, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A, YOU KNOW, A STRONG OBJECTIVE FOR US IS TO GET OUT THERE, TO, TO RECRUIT BUSINESSES TO COME TO THE TOWN OF MADISON. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, NEW NEW THINGS HAPPENING OVER AT VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, UM, KIND OF CREATE, YOU KNOW, ATTRACTING THOSE BUSINESSES TO, TO CREATE THIS LARGER AMENING BASE. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE, UH, NEW CAPITAL INVESTMENTS THAT'S BEING MADE OUTTA SPECTRUM CENTER, UM, $30 MILLION PUT IN THERE. 
          WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THEM TO ATTRACT, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES COME IN THERE. 
          WE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THIS LEVERAGE EXISTING AND NEW PARTNERSHIPS TO HOST BUSINESS ENGAGEMENT, BRINGING BUSINESSES IN INTO THOSE, UH, FACILITIES SO THAT THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY CAN SEE IT, UM, SO THAT THESE OTHER BUSINESSES CAN, WE CAN SHOW OFF THAT ASSET, BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE ON THAT. 
          SOME OF THESE BULLETS WOULD BE GOOD INFORMATION. 
          BUT BACK TO THE OTHER ONE. 
          GO TO BACK TO THE BLUE DOT. 
          SO THE WAY THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET THE WORD OUT FOR THE VOUCHERS, YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE PLAN BEHIND THAT, RIGHT? IT'S NOT JUST PICKING UP THE PHONE AND CALLING A FEW, IT'S NOT JUST SENDING OUT A . 
          YEAH. 
          THEY'LL, THERE'LL BE A, A VERY STRONG MARKETING PUSH AND THIS, THIS PROGRAM, BLUE DOT DOES THAT, RIGHT? THAT'S A PART OF IT. 
          THEY, THEIR MARKETING TO THE PEOPLE THAT GET ON THE LIST IS, THAT'S, UM, WELL, I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD REALLY FALL ON, ON US. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY'RE REALLY MORE JUST ON THE BACK END. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT YEAH, MARKET GOING, GOING TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, GETTING, YOU KNOW, PUSHING THAT OUT, UH, ON, ON THROUGH THEIR, THEIR CONTACTS, LETTING THEM KNOW THE PROGRAM EXISTS. 
          UM, WE CAN EVEN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE HAVE DIGITAL MARKETING WHERE WE CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, GEOTARGET VIA LINKEDIN, FACEBOOK, AND KIND OF REALLY, YOU KNOW, PUSH THAT MARKETING OUT. 
          AND SO FOLKS THAT ARE HERE, THAT, THAT TYPE OF THING WILL SHOW UP ON THEIR, ON THEIR, AND SOME, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD, UH, SOME OF US SAYING IS, HOW ARE YOU GONNA GET THIS PROGRAM OUT TO MAKE IT GET THE TRACTION? UM, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL OVERALL, HOW PLAN ON THAT? BUT YOU, YOU ADDRESS THAT JUST NOW. 
          SO THAT'S ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD FEEL FOR THIS. 
          WE SPENT A LITTLE MORE TIME ON THIS THAN I THOUGHT WE MIGHT. 
          UH, BUT I STILL WANNA HEAR FROM LESLIE BEFORE WE WRAP UP. 
          I KNOW WE'RE A LITTLE PAST EIGHT O'CLOCK, BUT, UH, I THINK, I THINK SHE'LL BE PRETTY BRIEF. 
          UH, WAYNE, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, WAYNE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          LESLIE KNIGHT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. 
          SO, UM, SKIPPING FORWARD TO OUR RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION. 
          SO, UH, A COUPLE THINGS. 
          AND, UH, THIS ONE IS NOT NECESSARILY A BIG ONE IN TERMS OF, UH, MONETARY RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION, BUT 
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OUR BUILDING INSPECTION TEAM SWITCHED, UH, IN JANUARY TO FULLY DIGITAL SUB BUILDS. 
          UH, SO FOR DECADES, WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING ALL OF OUR COMMERCIAL BUILDING PERMITS, UH, HARD COPIES. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE PERMIT SETS THAT ARE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE AMWAY TREEHOUSE PHASE ONE, THAT PERMIT SET WAS OVER 700 PAGES. 
          SO YOU HAD 24 AND 36 SHEETS AND, YOU KNOW, GIANT DOCUMENTS. 
          AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO RECLAIM A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OFFICE SPACE. 
          UH, BY REMOVING ALL OF THOSE PLANS, WE CLEARED OUT A LOT OF SPACE AND, UH, MADE ROOM FOR SOME OF OUR NEW CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO MOVE INTO THE SPACE. 
          SO, UH, WE WERE REALLY ABLE TO MAXIMIZE OUR, UH, OFFICE SPACE. 
          ANOTHER ITEM THAT, UH, WANTED TO DISCUSS WAS THE ANNUAL COMMUNITY GARAGE SALE. 
          UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, REIMAGINE THIS. 
          SO THE COMMUNITY GARAGE SALE PRE PANDEMIC DID OCCUR TWICE A YEAR IN THE SPRING. 
          AND IN THE FALL, THIS PROGRAM WAS, UH, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, STARTED BECAUSE WE DO NOT ALLOW SIGNS WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SO IT MADE IT REALLY CHALLENGING FOR RESIDENTS WHEN THEY HAD A GARAGE SALE TO ADVERTISE IF THEY WERE HAVING A GARAGE SALE AND TO LET THE COMMUNITY AND THEIR NEIGHBORS KNOW TO COME AND, AND PARTAKE. 
          UM, SO THE TOWN DID HOST, UM, AND SO THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE SEEING IN RECENT YEARS SINCE THE PANDEMIC, UH, WE DID TAKE TWO YEARS OFF DURING THAT TIME. 
          UH, WE'VE BEEN, UM, OPERATING THIS GARAGE SALE ONCE A YEAR. 
          SO WE DID TAKE IT BACK TO ONCE A YEAR IN THE SPRING AND ACTUALLY BEEN PARTNERING WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS, UM, DEPARTMENT WITH THEIR ANNUAL SHREDDING AND RECYCLING DAY, OR, UM, IT'S COMMONLY BEEN REFERRED TO AS EARTH AIR SUSTAINABILITY TO TRY TO INCREASE PARTICIPATION. 
          UM, UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL. 
          AND SO WE'VE SEEN, UM, YOU SEE THIS GRAPH BELOW HERE. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY THE CO DURING COVID, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PARTICIPATION AND WE'VE SEEN A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN THE LAST THREE YEARS. 
          UM, ONE THING THAT WE'RE ALSO STRUGGLING WITH IS OUR OPERATING PROP COSTS HAVE, UH, ALMOST DOUBLED LAST YEAR AND THEN ACTUALLY DECREASED A BID. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE STILL SPENDING, UM, LIKE THIS YEAR APPROXIMATELY, IF YOU INCLUDE STAFF OVERTIME AND BENEFITS. 
          WE SPENT AROUND $17,000 ON THIS, UH, ONE EVENT THAT ENCOMPASSES A COUPLE OF HOURS AND A WARNING. 
          AND, UH, THE OTHER THING THAT ARE ADDS SOME ADDITIONAL COMPLEXITIES IS, UH, WEATHER. 
          SO UNFORTUNATELY IT IS AN OUTDOOR EVENT. 
          SO IF IT IS THIS PAST YEAR, IT WAS EXTREMELY WINDY. 
          WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE LOSE THEIR ITEMS THEY WERE SELLING. 
          IT'S A BIT CHALLENGING. 
          AND THEN WE'RE ALSO RUNNING OUTTA SPACE. 
          SO THAT WAS ANOTHER CHALLENGE THIS YEAR. 
          UH, WE DID HAVE SOME CONFLICTING EVENTS HAPPENING, SO, UM, THE WATER TOWER THEATER HAD AN EVENT GOING ON, SO WE COULDN'T USE THE PARKING LOT. 
          WE HAD TO USE FESTIVAL WAY IN THE FUTURE. 
          I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE THESE CHALLENGES AS CONFERENCE CENTER AND THEATER CONTINUE TO GET UTILIZED. 
          UM, WHERE DO WE HAVE THIS? SO, UM, ONE OF OUR IDEAS IS TO HAVE, UH, CONTINUE TO HAVE THE GARAGE SALE AND HAVE THE TOWN PARTICIPATE. 
          UM, BUT, BUT SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE HOW THAT OPERATES. 
          SO USING TOWN, UM, OWNED MEDIA, SUCH SOCIAL, SOCIAL EXCUSE, SOCIAL MEDIA TO HELP ADVERTISE RESIDENTS. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE SOME SORT OF REGISTRATION PORTAL. 
          SO IF A RESIDENT DID WANT TO HAVE A GARAGE SALE, WE WOULD HAVE THEM REGISTER WITH US. 
          WE COULD USE SOCIAL MEDIA, WE COULD CREATE MAPS, UH, HAVE QR CODES WITH SIGNS IN OUR PARKS AND OTHER LOCATIONS SO THAT IF SOMEONE DIDN'T WANNA PARTICIPATE, THEY COULD SCAN THE QR CODE AND SEE WHERE GARAGE CHANNELS WERE HAPPENING. 
          UM, WE COULD BRING THIS BACK TWICE A YEAR, UH, IF WE'RE KEEPING OUR OPERATING COSTS DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY. 
          SO ONCE AGAIN, JUST LOOKING AT, BY DOING, SHIFTING THIS, WE COULD, UM, POTENTIALLY NOT CHARGE A FEE AND STILL PROVIDE THIS, THIS SERVICE. 
          IT WOULD NOT TAKE, UH, MUCH OF STAFF TIME, UM, AND ACCOMMODATE THIS, BUT ALSO SAVE 15, $70,000 A ANNUAL. 
          SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND THEN MOVING FORWARD TO THE PROPOSED DECISION PACKAGES, UM, OUR DEPARTMENT IS, HAS TWO DECISION PACKAGES. 
          THE FIRST IS ABATEMENT SERVICES. 
          UM, SO JUST TO BE, UM, CLEAR ON THIS, FOR ABATEMENT SERVICES, IT IS THE INTENT AND GOAL OF STAFF TO RECOUP THOSE COSTS. 
          SO WE DO, UM, WHEN WE PROVIDE ABATEMENT SERVICES FOR OUR SO ENFORCEMENT TEAM, SUCH AS, UM, MOWING HIGH WEEDS AND GRASS, OR ABATING GRAFFITI OR OTHER THINGS, WE DO ASSESS THOSE FEES BACK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. 
          HOWEVER, MOST OF THE TIME, IF WE'RE HAVING TO GO TO THOSE LENGTHS TO DO THAT, 
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UM, ASSESSING THOSE FEES IN A TIMELY MANNER TO COVER OUR UNCOVERED COSTS ARE NOT ALWAYS A REALITY. 
          AND SO, UH, WE HAVE PROCESSES IN PLACE THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE THOSE SITUATIONS, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ABATEMENT, WE, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, PROPERTY LIENS AND FINES AND SO FORTH. 
          UM, BUT IN REALITY, WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE ENCUMBERED COSTS AS WHEN YOU PAY PLACE A PROPERTY LIEN. 
          WE MAY NOT SEE THOSE, THOSE RETURN COSTS FOR POTENTIALLY YEARS. 
          UH, SO THAT'S WHAT THIS, THE INTENT OF THIS FUND WOULD DO. 
          THIS WOULD BE A REOCCURRING FUND. 
          WE CURRENTLY DO HAVE AN ABATEMENT FUND OF $4,000. 
          UH, SO WE ARE SEEKING ADDITIONAL 36,000 REOCCURRING, UM, FOR A TOTAL OF 40,000. 
          THIS WILL COVER, UM, THE INCREASED PROACTIVE ACTIVITY OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF, UM, SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE, OR EXCUSE ME, HIRE THIRD PARTY CONTRACTORS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FACING ANY VIOLATIONS IN A HIGH QUALITY MANNER THAT, THAT THE COMMUNITY EXPECTS. 
          THE NEXT UH, DECISION PACKAGE IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY GRANT PROGRAM. 
          UH, THIS IS THE, UH, PERIMETER RESIDENTIAL PERIMETER SCREENING WALL GRANT PROGRAM THAT CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED IN FEBRUARY. 
          UH, SO WE ARE SEEKING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A ONE TIME FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM. 
          UM, JUST TO REMIND ALL WHAT THAT PROGRAM DOES, IT IS AN 80 20 GRANT PROGRAM MATCH. 
          SO THE TOWN WOULD FUND 80% THE PROPERTY THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING 20% TO REPAIR, UM, OR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE ON A BASERY SPRING WALL IN OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          UM, SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A ONE-TIME FUND. 
          WE, OUR APPLICATIONS ARE CURRENTLY OPEN. 
          THEY OPEN AUGUST 1ST, AND THEY CLOSED AUGUST 31ST. 
          WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST FROM SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SO THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE'RE FEELING IT OUT TO SEE, UM, HOW MUCH FUNDING WE NEEDED, IF A HUNDRED THOUSAND IS THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT. 
          UM, BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST FROM MANY, MANY RESIDENTS. 
          SO, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE HOW THIS YEAR GOES. 
          THAT CONCLUDES MY DECISION TIME. 
          THANKS. 
          QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS, BARLEY? UH, YES SIR. 
          I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THIS COMMUNITY GARAGE SALE CONCEPT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          SO HOW WOULD THAT, HOW WOULD CODE ENFORCE, UH, ILLEGAL SIGNS? UH, BASICALLY I WANT TO HAVE A GARAGE SALE AT MY PLACE, AND I WANT TO DRAW IN AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO I'M GONNA DO WHAT TYPICALLY OCCURS. 
          I'M GONNA PUT ABOUT 12 DIRECTIONAL COMMUNITY GARAGE SIGNS OUT. 
          YES. 
          MORE THAN WHAT'S ALLOWED IS JUST THE ONE ON MY PROPERTY. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          SO I BELIEVE YOU'RE ALLOWED UP TO THREE ON YOUR PROPERTY. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN OUR CODE. 
          UM, SO YOU TECHNICALLY COULD HAVE YOUR THREE ON YOUR PROPERTY AND THEN ANY OTHER SIGNS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY WOULD STILL NOT BE ALLOWED. 
          WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO MODIFY THAT. 
          UH, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO IS, UM, UTILIZE, AND, AND THIS IS KIND OF OPEN FOR COLLABORATION DISCUSSION, IS UTILIZE OTHER FORMS OF ADVERTISEMENT. 
          SO ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE AT CHANCES WE COULD POTENTIALLY, UM, PUT LIKE BLONDE SIGNS IN OUR PUBLIC PARKS THAT ARE ADDISON BRANDED SIGNS THAT ARE HELP PUBLICIZING AND PUSHING PEOPLE TO OUR WEBSITE WHERE THESE ITEMS ARE ADVERTISED SO THAT WE CAN AVOID OUR CORRIDORS SUCH AS BELT LINE OR OTHER, YOU KNOW, OTHER CORRIDORS. 
          MIDWAY ROAD'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF BEING LITTERED WITH YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, HANDMADE BROAD SALE SIGN THIS WAY. 
          I, I GET IT. 
          WHAT I'M REALLY SPECIFICALLY ASKING IS, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS ON A SATURDAY, RIGHT? YES. 
          SO, SO IS CODE ENFORCEMENT GONNA BE OUT THERE AND GRAB THOSE ILLEGAL SIGNS? 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT RIGHT NOW WITH COMMUNITY, WITH GARAGE SALE SIGNS. 
          THAT'S, I'M NOT SEEING THAT HAPPENING. 
          SO OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT IS ON A ROTATING, UH, WEEKEND SCHEDULE. 
          SO WE HAVE SOMEONE ON CALL EVERY WEEKEND, AND THEY DO CURRENTLY DO ASSIGNMENT ON ONCE A WEEKEND. 
          SO USUALLY IT'S EITHER, IT'S EITHER SATURDAY OR SUNDAY UNLESS WE HAVE A SCHEDULED EVENT. 
          SO IF WE KNEW THE GARAGE SALE WAS HAPPENING, WE WOULD STAFF IT APPROPRIATELY. 
          UM, IF YOU ARE SEEING SIGNS, PLEASE MOVE 'EM TO THE FIX IT APP IF YOU'RE NOT . 
          YEAH. 
          AND YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, AND SO WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS NOT I'M SEEING YOUR OFFICERS OUT THERE. 
          YEP. 
          I'M SEEING 'EM DO GREAT WORK, BUT FOR WHATEVER, FOR WHATEVER, FOR WHATEVER REASON, I'M NOT SEEING THEM ADDRESS, UH, GARAGE SALE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SIGNS AND ON THE WEEKEND AND, AND I GET A RESPONSE BACK THAT WE CHECKED IT ON MONDAY AND THEY'RE NOT, THEY WEREN'T THERE AT THAT TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          I WILL SAY WE'VE HAD A LOT OF NEW POST STAFF LATELY, SO THEY'RE, IF POSSIBLE THEY'RE STILL LEARNING THE ROPES, I WILL BE HAPPY TO CHECK INTO IT. 
          YEAH, I'LL ALL, ALL I'M SAYING IS IF WE'RE GONNA GO TO THIS MODEL, NO. 
          KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT 
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WE'RE GONNA GET AND, AND WE HAVE TO DELIVER ON ON WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME OR YEAH. 
          WE'RE PLANNING TO DO. 
          YEP. 
          AND, AND SO OUR, I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS, IS WE WANNA AVOID OUR REPORT BEING LITTERED WITH SCIENCE. 
          IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, BUT ALSO IT'S HAPPENING ANYWAYS, RIGHT NOW, IF WE PROVIDE A STRUCTURED OUTLET FOR THIS TO HAPPEN IN A LEGAL MANNER, HOPEFULLY PEOPLE UTILIZE IT. 
          'CAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT UTILIZING, UTILIZING OUR COMMUNITY GARAGE SALE. 
          WE HAD 26 PARTICIPANTS RIGHT. 
          REGISTER THIS YEAR. 
          SO HOPEFULLY THIS HELPS MITIGATE THAT AS WELL FROM A, UH, A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT METHOD OTHER THAN PROACTIVE ENFORCEMENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I'M, ALL I'M SAYING IS PEOPLE ARE GONNA DO WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY DO, YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO THAT, RIGHT? YES. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU'RE ASKING, IF YOU'RE TELLING US THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, IS WE'RE GONNA GRAB THOSE ILLEGAL SIGNS WHEN THEY COME UP. 
          I'M, I'M FOR THAT. 
          YES. 
          BUT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT, THEN, THEN I'M HAVING A PROBLEM WITH, WITH THE IDEA. 
          NO, WE ARE STILL FULLY ENFORCING OUR SIGN ORDINANCE, WHICH IS NO GARAGE SALE SIGNS WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. 
          YOU'RE ALLOWED THREE PRODUCTS ON YOUR PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY PROGRAM, YOU'VE GOT IT LIKE, AS A ONE TIME. 
          SO YES, I WAS THINKING THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO, TO CONTINUE LIKE A, A REOCCURRING BASIS. 
          AND, AND THAT, OH, GO AHEAD. 
          I, I'LL JUST JUMP IN REAL QUICK BECAUSE, UM, LESLIE MENTIONED, BUT MAYBE JUST A LITTLE MORE COLOR. 
          SO IT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR THE FIRST YEAR, WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THAT VERY QUICKLY. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE. 
          WE COME WITH A MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT THIS YEAR FOR ONE PROPERTY. 
          UM, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS ON THESE APPLICATIONS, WE WOULD LOVE TO GET A GOOD, KIND OF, LIKE A GOOD, A GOOD NUMBER OF 'EM THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH A FIVE, 10 YEAR PLAN. 
          YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A NUMBER OF 'EM AND WE, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PLAN, THEN WE CAN REALLY START TO BUDGET, RIGHT? WE CAN SAY WE WANT A HUNDRED THOUSAND THIS YEAR, 60,000 NEXT YEAR, WHATEVER IT IS. 
          SO THIS A HUNDRED THOUSAND IS FIRST, IS ONE TIME BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST YEAR. 
          BUT CERTAINLY THIS IS AN ONGOING COST. 
          AND WE SEE, HOPEFULLY WE GET ENOUGH APPLICATIONS, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE, I THINK WE'RE ALREADY AT OVER 15, BUT WE, I KNOW WE'VE HAD INTEREST FROM AROUND 21 DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, WHICH IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. 
          BUT WE HAVE NO IDEA BECAUSE I, I'LL SAY FROM A, UM, FROM AN APPLICATION RANGE, WE, WE HAVE, UH, APPLICATIONS THAT ARE, I HAVE A, A CRACK THAT NEEDS SOME WATER REPAIR, AND WE HAVE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE, THIS NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN FOR AND BUILT. 
          SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT COST AND SCALES ARE HUGE, HUGE VARIETY OF PROJECTS. 
          AND SO FROM A, FROM A MONEY STANDPOINT, BUDGETING STANDPOINT, WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE WHAT THAT IS AND IDENTIFY THE FUNDING WE DO NEED. 
          UM, SO TO DAVID'S POINT, THIS IS REALLY A FACT FINDING WHERE WE'RE AT, WHAT IS THE NEED OF THE PROGRAM, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA REEVALUATE AND BRING BACK, SO YOU ALREADY HAVE COMPLETED APPLICATIONS, AND THIS WAS ANNOUNCED, UH, WHAT FRIDAY? NO. 
          SO IT WAS, UM, THE INFORMATION WAS PUBLISHED ON THE WEBSITE JULY 1ST OR SECOND. 
          AND THEN APPLICATIONS OPEN ON FOR ACCEPTANCE ON AUGUST 1ST. 
          WE'VE ALREADY GOT IT. 
          DO WE HAVE, UM, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT LIKE CONTRACTORS, LIKE MASONRY CONTRACTORS THAT, THAT WE WOULD OFFER FOR, FOR YES. 
          HOAS FOR OWNERS, WHOMEVER TO CONTACT. 
          DO WE HAVE WE HAVE, UH, THAT, SO, SO WE SENT OUT, UH, FEELERS TO, TO ALL OF OUR REGISTERED CONTRACTORS THAT ARE WITH THE TOWN, UH, THAT WE HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR. 
          UH, AND WE'VE HEARD FROM ONE THAT HAS ELECTED TO BE ADDED TO THAT LIST. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE, AS WE GET APPLICATIONS, WE ARE REACHING OUT TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY HAVE NOT BEEN THAT ONE AND ASK IF THEY WILL BE ADDED, COULD BE ADDED TO THAT LIST SO THAT WE CAN SHARE THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION WITH OTHERS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD A LOT OF INTEREST FROM CONTRACTORS WHO ELECTED TO BE, UM, I'M GONNA SAY ADVERTISED OKAY. 
          ON THAT LIST. 
          BUT YES, WE HAVE, UM, SENT TWO DIFFERENT CONTACTS AND DONE SOME TARGETED REACH OUT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, UM, BASED UPON WHAT I'VE JUST HEARD FROM, FROM YOU ALL ABOUT THE APPLICANTS, AFTER IT JUST OPENED UP, UM, AND JUST A, A LITTLE BIT, I KNOW ABOUT MASONRY WALLS, I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT A HUNDRED, UH, FOR, FOR THIS YEAR IS NOT GONNA BE ENOUGH. 
          UM, AND, AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL, AS A COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A A HUNDRED FOR THIS FIRST YEAR. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LIZ? GO AHEAD. 
          I DO, UM, MAYBE IT HAPPENED BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL. 
          HOW DID WE ARRIVE AT 80 20 AS OPPOSED TO 50 50 OR SOME OTHER 
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YEAH, I'LL GO, I'LL GO THROUGH IT. 
          UH, I'LL LET JANET SIT THIS WAY OUT, . 
          SO THIS WAS SOME HISTORY AND I, AND OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL WEREN'T HERE FOR THIS, BUT THIS WAS AN ONGOING INTERCEPTION FOR AT LEAST A YEAR AND A HALF OR MORE. 
          UM, SO WE DID A, A STUDY ON THE WALLS THROUGHOUT TOWN, WE HAVE REQUESTS AND WE JUST KNOW THE CONDITION OF THE WALLS WERE, SO I WON'T CATCH YOU UP ON ALL THAT. 
          WE CAN CERTAINLY GO INTO IT. 
          THE CONDITION OF THE WALLS. 
          SO WE HAD, WE DID HAVE A BIG POLICY DISCUSSION ON WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS IT? UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ON TOWN PROPERTY, SO IT'S NOT LEGALLY OUR RESPONSIBILITY, BUT WE SAW THE BENEFITS TO THE TOWN HAVING THESE WALLS BEING GOOD CONDITION FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. 
          SO, UM, TO COME UP WITH THE 80 20, WHAT WE, WHAT WE DID A SURVEY AND A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF THE CITIES HAVE SIMILAR PROGRAMS AND THEY ARE CLOSER TO THE 50 50 RANGE. 
          UH, 80 20 WAS REALLY US SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ADDISON, WE CARE ABOUT THIS. 
          WE WANT TO SHOW THEM, SHOW THE RESIDENTS WE CARE ABOUT IT, AND WE'LL WILLING INTO TO INVEST IN IT. 
          SO 80 20 CERTAINLY WAS A HIGHER PERCENTAGE THAN THE COMPARATOR CITIES WE SAW, BUT COUNCIL ULTIMATELY DECIDED, AND WE RECOMMENDED THAT WE GO UP TO THE HIGHER RANGE BECAUSE WE SAID THIS WAS A PRIORITY AND WE CAN SOMETHING THAT WE VALUE. 
          SO, UM, HOPE THAT ANSWERED THE QUESTION, BUT IT REALLY WAS JUST A POLICY DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD. 
          WELL, THE QUE I HAD LIKE TWOFOLD WAS WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS IT? SO I GUESS IT'S NOT THE TOWN. 
          SO DOES THAT MEAN IT IS, SO THERE'S THE PROPERTY OWNER, IT'S, OR ALL OF OUR WALLS ARE, IT, IT'S A COMPLICATED ISSUE. 
          SO, AND THERE'S TONS OF POWERPOINTS AND PRESENTATIONS, AND I CAN, I CERTAINLY CAN GO IN THOSE WITH YOU. 
          AND I SAY THAT TO SAY IN THOSE PRESENTATIONS WE HAVE MAPS AND EACH NEIGHBORHOOD'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          THERE ARE SOME WHERE THE TOWN IS ALREADY RESPONSIBLE. 
          SO THERE ARE, THEY'RE ALREADY IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVE OUR CAPITAL REPLACEMENT PLAN. 
          THERE'S SOME WHERE THE HOA IS RESPONSIBLE, THERE'S SOME WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER IS RESPONSIBLE, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE IN AN HOA. 
          AND THERE'S SOME WHERE IT'S VAGUE. 
          ULTIMATELY IT'S RESPONSIBLE, BUT WE KNOW IT'S NOT THE TOWN IN THESE SITUATIONS. 
          THIS PROGRAM IS INTENDED FOR THE ONES THAT THE TOWN DOESN'T ALREADY MAINTAIN, WHICH IS THE VAST MAJORITY. 
          SO IT COULD BE THAT THE OA IS THE OWNER OF THE WALL. 
          IT COULD BE THAT THE HOMEOWNER IS THE OWNER OF THE WALL, BUT THIS IS WHAT THIS IS INTENDED FOR, TO HELP THEM PAY FOR THE REPLACEMENTS THAT ARE REALLY NEEDED FOR THOSE WALLS. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW. 
          SO EACH CASE IS A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE OVERALL SUMMARY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF WE HAVE ALL THESE APPLICATIONS COMING IN AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO FUND 80%, WELL, IT WAS NEVER CHANGE THE PERCENTAGE OR IS THAT ALREADY ADOPTED? I WOULD NOT CHANGE. 
          I DON'T, WE COUNCIL CAN CHANGE IT IF Y'ALL WANT TO. 
          I, I, I THINK 80, I THINK THE RESIDENTS ARE VERY, WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE WERE WILLING TO 80%, I MEAN, I'M SURE THEY'RE SHOWED THAT, SHOWED THAT WE WERE SO, UM, I I, I WOULD BE CAUTIOUS TO MAKE A CHANGE. 
          I MEAN, WE JUST PROMOTED THIS, WE JUST DID THIS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I WOULD BE CAUTIOUS TO MAKE TWO MONTHS AGO. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I WOULD BE CAUTIOUS TO MAKE A CHANGE. 
          DO WE PRIORITIZE WHOSE WALLS GET FIXED WHEN, I MEAN, LET'S SAY WE APPROVED A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND WE RUN OUT AT FOUR OR FIVE WALLS AND THERE'S 20. 
          WELL, THE PLAN, AND I'LL LET LESLIE KNOW WHERE WE ARE NOW, BUT I WOULD SAY OVERALL THE PLAN IS THAT WE'RE NOT, WE NEVER SAID WE WERE GONNA FIX ALL THESE WALLS IN ONE YEAR. 
          IT WAS TO TRY TO ASSESS WHERE, WHAT IS THE TRUE NATURE OF THE WALL. 
          AND AS FAR AS THE PRIORITIZATION, IT'S GONNA BE, WHAT IF A WALL'S ABOUT TO FALL OVER AND BE A DANGER TO FOLKS? IT'S GONNA BE HIGHER IN PRIORITY THAN THE OTHERS, BUT LESLIE MIGHT HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A, UM, A COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE ALL THE APPLICATIONS. 
          AND WE DO HAVE A, A DRAFT, UM, SCORING RUBRIC FOR THE APPLICATIONS. 
          AND SAFETY IS A BIG CONCERN AS WELL AS COSTS. 
          THERE'S SOME OTHER, UM, NOT CONCERNS, BUT SOME OTHER ITEMS TO CONSIDER. 
          SO IF THE NEIGHBORS COLLABORATED, SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAVE A, IF WE CAN GET A STRETCH OF, LET SAY SIX PROPERTY OWNERS TO COLLABORATE AND WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE ENTIRE SPAN OF WALL AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO TARGET, YOU KNOW, AND SPOT TARGET ALL OF THESE WALLS, THAT COULD BE A BETTER BENEFIT OF AND USE OF THE RESOURCE AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, TACK ALL THESE, THESE GOALS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO THERE'S UH, SEVERAL FACTORS AND WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING THAT IT, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT EVEN IF YOU SUBMIT AN APPLICATION, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FUND IT THIS YEAR. 
          SO THAT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED TO RESIDENTS WHEN WE HAVE NEEDS WITHIN. 
          UM, BUT ONCE AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN A KIND OF A FACT FINDING PROCESS TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS THE TRUE MEANING AND WHAT IS THAT. 
          CAUSE THEN WE CAN COME BACK BEFORE COUNSEL, WHETHER IT'S SEEK ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UM, OR AMEND THE MATCH. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S MORE DISCUSSIONS TO BE HAD ON THIS ONE TO BE IDENTIFIED, UM, THAN  DOES. 
          SOMEBODY RUNS INTO A WALL WITH A CAR, DOES THE INSURANCE TAKE CARE OF THAT ONE? OR THIS 
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IS JUST AGE WALLS LEANING OR FALLING OR DETERIOR. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS TOO. 
          UH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SO BROAD. 
          UM, SO, UH, A GOOD EXAMPLE WAS, UM, SOMEONE WANTED TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF THE WALL. 
          WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO PAY INCREASE IN HEIGHT OF YOUR WALL OVER, YOU HAVE A REPAIR. 
          THAT'S WHAT THIS GRANT FUNDING PROGRAM IS FOR. 
          UM, THERE'S ALSO SOME SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE IN THE GRANT PROGRAM. 
          SO IF, UM, YOU RECEIVE GRANT FUNDING TO REPAIR YOUR WALL AND THEN YOU CAN ACT INAPPROPRIATELY TO DAMAGE YOUR WALL, AGAIN, YOU DON'T GET GRANT FUNDING. 
          AGAIN, WE'RE NOT JUST GONNA KEEP, UM, PROVIDING GRANT FUNDING PROPERLY. 
          THEY'RE NOT . 
          SO THERE'S OTHER, I'M GONNA SAY SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE. 
          AND ONCE THIS GRANT PROGRAM IS USED, BEGIN THE WALL END INTO A PREPARED AND THEN PROVIDE MAINTENANCE STANDARDS FOR THAT PROPERTY OWNER TO ENSURE THAT IT HAS A LONG LIFE. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CONTINUE TO FUND THIS PROGRAM. 
          AND IN SUCH A HIGH , I THINK WE SHOULD FIX 'EM. 
          THEY NEED TO LOOK GOOD. 
          I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT. 
          I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER'S GONNA GO TO. 
          HOPEFULLY WE GET THEM ALL REPAIRED AND THEN WE CAN JUST MAINTAIN THE POST. 
          RIGHT. 
          I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION. 
          UM, ONE THING THAT I THINK THE WHOLE ENTIRE COMMUNITY BENEFITED FROM THE GARAGE SALE WAS THE ELECTRONICS RECYCLING, SHREDDING, I THINK THEY CALLED IT CEASE DEGREES. 
          UM, ARE WE STILL GONNA BE ABLE TO OFFER THOSE? YEP. 
          SO THOSE PROGRAMS ARE STILL, UM, OFFERED, I BELIEVE THEY'RE TWICE A YEAR. 
          CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE'RE STILL OFFERING THOSE TWICE A YEAR JUST FROM A OPERATION, A PRINT STANDPOINT. 
          THEY'RE MUCH MORE COMPACT AND EASY TO OPERATE IN. 
          I'M GONNA SAY A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE CAPACITY OR NOT UNIQUE, BUT JUST FLEXIBLE. 
          THEY'RE ADAPTABLE OPTIONS. 
          WHEREAS WITH THE GARAGE SALE WE'RE HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, GET THE RENTAL COMPANY TO HAVE TENTS AND TABLES AND CHAIRS AND ALL THINGS. 
          AS LONG AS WE'RE OFFERING THOSE SERVICES. 
          I, THAT'S, I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. 
          YEP. 
          AND THAT'S THE PLAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          I WOULD SAY, I THINK IT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH THEM IN TERMS OF HAVING 'EM ON THE SAME DAY AGAIN IN THE FUTURE I OUT THE COMMUNITY GARAGE SALE, BUT JUST REMANDING OF HOW WE GARAGE SALE OPERATE. 
          SURE. 
          JUST WANTED TO COMMENT FOR COUNCIL ON THE, THE WALL. 
          UH, THIS HAS BEEN A TOPIC FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. 
          IT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED BECAUSE IT'S NOT EASY. 
          AND WE FINALLY ADDRESSED IT AND THIS IS THE FIRST KIND OF DRAFT GOING FORWARD WITH IT. 
          UM, AND UM, JUST GETTING TO IT AND DOING SOMETHING ABOUT, IT'S A HUGE STEP. 
          AND I'M OF THE OPINION OF WE, WE DO CAP IT AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND 'CAUSE IT'S TIME AND MONEY AND WE DON'T HAVE UNLIMITED MONEY, BUT WE, IT MAY TAKE TIME TO GET TO SOME OF THESE WALLS. 
          THAT'S KIND OF PACE OURSELF ON OUR SPEND. 
          'CAUSE IT IS EVERYBODY'S DOLLARS GOING TO A VERY CONCENTRATED SPACE. 
          AND THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS, ALONG THE YEARS, THE, THE TOWN HAD NOT, I'M NOT PLACING ANY BLAME IN MY OBSERVATION IS THE TOWN HAD MADE IT REAL CLEAR ABOUT WHOSE LIABILITY THE WALLS ARE. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN THE SITUATION IS YOU HAVE DIFFERENT 10 DIFFERENT FLAVORS OF HOW, WHO'S LIABLE, WHOSE PROPERTIES ON, DO WE HAVE AN EASEMENT? THOSE THINGS. 
          AND THIS WAS A, A, A WHOLE GENERAL SOLUTION TO, TO SOLVE ALL THOSE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. 
          SO CAN YOU GIMME ONE EXAMPLE OF A SCREENING WALL IS A, A A ALONG BELTWAY, LAC, I MEAN THOSE, ANYTHING, ANY WALL THAT IS GOING OUT TO A MAJOR ROAD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ANY INTERNAL ROAD BETWEEN NEIGHBORS DOESN'T COUNT, BUT ANY WALL GOING OUT TO A MAJOR ROAD. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU SEE THE MAP, WE HAVE A LOT OF THERE A LOT OF MAPS. 
          AND THE MAPS ARE REALLY GOOD AT IDENTIFYING WHICH ONES OR THIS SORT OF LIABILITY OR THIS ONE THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD, UH, IT'D PROBABLY BE GOOD TO PUT TOGETHER. 
          YEAH, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO CATCH CATCH EM UP. 
          SO LIKE BEHIND THE PROPERTY THAT AM EMILY JUST GOT APPROVED FOR, THERE'S A WALL BETWEEN THEM AND TOWN LAKE. 
          IS THAT ONE OF THOSE WALLS? THAT WOULD NOT BE A WALL BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S BETWEEN TWO PRIVATE PROPERTIES. 
          SO, SO THAT IF IT'S FAILING, THE TOWN'S NOT GONNA PARTICIPATE. 
          THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES. 
          SO THAT'S THE, I THINK, I THINK YOU TWO NEED TO GET THAT. 
          WE CAN'T GET THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE IT SAVES US ALL A LOT OF TIME TOGETHER. 
          OKAY. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE SITTING THERE. 
          LOT OF INFORMATION. 
          A LOT OF WORK DONE ON IT. 
          PICTURES. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD QUESTION. 
          YEAH, WE CAN BREAK. 
          ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU? NO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          STEVEN'S READY TO THANK YOU. 
          IT'S 8 45. 
          WE'RE ADJOURNED. 
          Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
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OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. 
          IT IS FIVE O'CLOCK AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 7TH, 2024. 
          IT'S, UH, A, UH, SPECIAL BUDGET WORKSHOP AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF COUNCIL PRESENT WITH SIX OF US IN THE ROOM. 
          AND WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          A PRESENTED, DISCUSS THE PROPOSED ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE TIME OF ADDISON FOR FISCAL YEAR OF 2025, BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2024, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER, 2025, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING FUNDS, GENERAL UTILITY, STORM WATER, AIRPORT, HOTEL, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, CAPITAL REPLACEMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT, AND LONG-TERM PLANNING. 
          STEVEN, THANK YOU. 
          THE MAYOR. 
          COUNCIL, STEVEN LICKING, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. 
          UH, AND BEFORE I GET STARTED ON THIS EVENING'S PRESENTATION, I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS, UH, SENT THROUGH AND WERE SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL. 
          DID WE HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP THAT WE WANTED TO DISCUSS BEFORE WE GET TO TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION? BECAUSE THERE'S NOT REALLY A NATURAL STOPPING POINT FOR SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          WE FOLLOW UP. 
          I WILL GET STARTED. 
          GREAT. 
          SO, UH, THIS EVENING, UH, WE'RE GONNA KIND OF GO THROUGH, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE CALL RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION FOR THIS BUDGET YEAR. 
          WE'RE GONNA GET INTO ALL OF THE DECISION PACKAGES THAT ARE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, AND WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE DETAILED EXPLANATIONS OF ONES THAT YOU DIDN'T HEAR, UH, FROM, UH, A DEPARTMENT ABOUT YESTERDAY. 
          UH, THEN WE'LL KIND OF GET INTO OUR MAJOR FUNDS OVERVIEW, AND THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH THE, THE PRIMARY FUNDS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET AND OUR LONG-TERM FINANCIAL PLANS FOR EACH OF THOSE FUNDS. 
          AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS, UH, IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          SO RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION. 
          AND THIS WAS A, UH, INITIATIVE THAT CAME FROM THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION BACK IN JANUARY. 
          UM, SO COUNCIL, UH, WANTED US TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THINGS MORE COST EFFECTIVE OR MORE EFFICIENTLY. 
          UH, SO WE HAD A COMMITTEE THAT WAS FORMED THIS YEAR, UM, AND WE SOLICITED, UM, IDEAS FROM ALL THE STAFF IN THE TOWN, UH, PUT UP FLYERS WHERE THEY COULD SUBMIT ANONYMOUSLY OR NOT ANONYMOUSLY IF THEY WANTED TO. 
          MOST OF 'EM WERE ANONYMOUS, BUT, UH, SUBMIT THEIR IDEAS FOR WAYS THAT THE TOWN COULD DO BUSINESS BETTER OR MAKE EFFICIENCIES, COST SAVINGS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE INCORPORATED INTO THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, WHICH I'M GONNA GO OVER AS RECURRING ITEMS. WE HAD SOME SAVINGS THAT WERE ONE TIME TYPE SAVINGS. 
          WE HAD SOME THINGS THAT MAYBE DIDN'T HAVE A COST SAVINGS EFFECT, BUT MAYBE WERE AN EFFICIENCY OR SOME TYPE OF, UM, POSITIVE IMPROVEMENT IN ANOTHER AREA. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE A LIST OF THINGS THAT THE, THE GROUP IS CON CONTINUING TO CONSIDER AND LOOK AT FOR FUTURE BUDGET BUDGET PROCESSES. 
          SO I'LL START AT THE TOP. 
          SO A POSITION WAS ELIMINATED IN THE AIRPORT. 
          UH, THE OPERATIONS MANAGER POSITION, UH, THAT'S A SAVINGS OF ABOUT $124,000. 
          UH, THE AIRPORT AND FINANCE DEPARTMENTS, UM, ELIMINATED THE AIRPORT BILLING SOFTWARE AND USE OUR EXISTING, UH, ERP FOR THE, UH, AIRPORT BILLING. 
          SO WE'RE ABLE TO ELIMINATE THAT SOFTWARE AND KIND OF STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS. 
          UH, SO THERE THE COST SAVINGS OF ABOUT $3,000 THERE. 
          UH, JANA YESTERDAY MENTIONED, UH, UTILIZING IN-HOUSE CHEMICAL APPLICATION RATHER THAN CONTRACTORS. 
          SO IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A SERVICE IMPROVEMENT, BUT ALSO A SAVINGS OF ABOUT $18,000. 
          UH, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ELIMINATED THE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER POSITION $130,000 SAVINGS THERE. 
          UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, AS LESLIE WENT OVER YESTERDAY,  THAT TIME GARAGE SALE EVENT, UH, SAVINGS OF ABOUT $20,000. 
          UH, FINANCE ELIMINATED, UH, RINKS, CASH PICKUP SERVICES, A SAVINGS OF ABOUT $10,000. 
          AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T GET A LOT OF CASH. 
          WE'RE ONLY GETTING ABOUT 30,000 A YEAR IN CASH. 
          IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, UH, TO PAY $10,000, UM, JUST TO GET THAT BANK OURSELVES. 
          UM, FINANCE AND IT, UH, WORKED ON A CAPITAL BUDGET REPORT AND WE'RE ABLE TO ELIMINATE A SOFTWARE, UH, THAT COST ABOUT $11,500. 
          UM, GENERAL SERVICES. 
          SO WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW ROOFS THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING, UH, CONSTRUCTED AND A LOT OF NEW HVAC UNITS THAT ARE UNDER WARRANTY. 
          SO WE'RE ABLE TO ELIMINATE SOME, UM, PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE TYPE CONTRACTS FOR THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE STILL UNDER WARRANTY. 
          SO A SAVINGS OF 19,000 ON THE ROOFING CONTRACT AND ABOUT $60,000 ON THE NEW HVAC UH, UNITS. 
          UH, IT ELIMINATED SOME UNUSED, UH, DATA CARDS SAVINGS OF ABOUT $18,000. 
          UM, IT ALSO REPLACED A BUYER SPAM SOFTWARE WITH A NEW ENHANCED SOLUTION, A SAVINGS OF $15,000, UH, 
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MUNICIPAL PORT LEMONADE, SOME UNUSED, UH, QUART SOFTWARE MODULES FROM, FROM, UH, YOUR INCODE SOFTWARE. 
          A SAVINGS OF ABOUT $6,000. 
          UH, YOU HEARD YESTERDAY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BEGAN U UTILIZING THE ADDISON POLICE REPORTING ONLINE. 
          UH, THAT'S A SAVINGS OF ABOUT $25,000. 
          UH, RECREATION. 
          YOU HEARD THIS ONE FROM JANET AS WELL. 
          THE RECREATIONS FACILITY, UH, THE LIAISON, UM, TO MAKE THE BUILDING REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE MORE EFFICIENT, UH, SAVINGS OF ABOUT $10,000. 
          AND THEN SPECIAL EVENTS, UM, UTILIZING VOLUNTEERS AND SEASONAL EMPLOYEES FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          UH, WE DON'T HAVE A DOLLAR FIGURE ON THAT BECAUSE THE SPECIAL EVENTS HAVE NOT OCCURRED AT THE TIME WE WERE DEVELOPING THE BUDGET, BUT, UH, HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO REPORT, UH, A ACTUAL DOLLAR FIGURE ON, ON THOSE TYPES OF SAVINGS FOR THOSE CHANGES. 
          SO IN TOTAL, UH, THE RECURRING ITEMS THAT WERE SAVED IN THIS BUDGET, UH, CAME OUT TO JUST UNDER $470,000. 
          AND THEN WE HAD SEVERAL ONE-TIME ITEMS AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, AIRPORT, AND I THINK JOEL MENTIONED THIS WHEN HE, UH, DID HIS, UH, BUDGET PRESENTATION, UH, BACK IN JUNE THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO DO IN-HOUSE REPAIRS OF THE EMASS, THE ENGINEERED MATERIAL ARRESTING SYSTEM, UH, THAT SAVED THEM ABOUT $125,000. 
          UM, PARKS AND JANA MENTIONED THIS YESTERDAY, THEY WERE ABLE TO DO SOME IN-HOUSE DESIGN FOR MIDWAY TRAIL SCHOOL AIRPORT GATEWAY SIGN AND MTTA PLANNING, UM, PLAN OR PLANTING PLAN. 
          AND THAT SAVED ABOUT $125,000. 
          UM, PUBLIC WORKS. 
          UH, WE HAVE A, WE HAD A CAPITAL PROJECT THAT WAS LISTED, UH, ON OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OF A 40-YEAR-OLD, UH, WATER LINE, OR NOT 40-YEAR-OLD WATER LINE. 
          UM, A WATER LINE THAT WAS ON OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, UH, AT A VALUE OF ABOUT $2.2 MILLION PROJECT. 
          UM, INSTEAD OF GOING OUT AND JUST DOING THAT WORK, THEY, UH, DID A, UM, NON-DESTRUCTIVE TESTING TO DETERMINE IF THAT WORK ACTUALLY NEEDED TO BE DONE. 
          UM, THE, UH, CONTRACTOR DETERMINED THAT THAT LINE PROBABLY HAS 40 YEARS OF LIFE LEFT. 
          SO INSTEAD OF US GOING OUT AND SPENDING $2.2 MILLION TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, REPLACE THAT LINE, THEY DETERMINED THAT IT DIDN'T NEED TO BE REPLACED. 
          SO THAT REALLY SAVES ABOUT $2.2 MILLION. 
          UM, PUBLIC WORKS IS ALSO DOING A FOAM INJECTION ON, ON, ON CONCRETE PANELS FOR REPAIR INSTEAD OF FULL PANEL REPLACEMENTS. 
          UH, THOSE, THAT SAVES ABOUT $10,000 EVERY TIME THEY DO THAT INSTEAD OF DOING A FULL CHANNEL REPLACEMENT. 
          AND THEN, UM, THERE WERE SOME IN-HOUSE SKYLIGHT REPAIRS AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB, UH, THAT SAVED THE TOWN ABOUT 25,000. 
          AND THEN HERE'S SEVERAL OTHER ITEMS, AND THESE ARE MORE RELATED TO, AS I MENTIONED, KIND OF EFFICIENCY, TIME SAVINGS TYPE THINGS. 
          UM, SO WE ARE IMPLEMENTING AN INVISIO SOFTWARE, WHICH IS, UH, KIND OF A STRATEGIC PLAN REPORTING, UH, TYPE SOFTWARE. 
          UM, SEVERAL STAFF WITHIN GENERAL SERVICES BEING TRAINED TO DO IN-HOUSE REPAIRS RATHER THAN CALLING A CONTRACTOR APP TO DO REPAIRS. 
          UM, COURT IS NOW USING A THIRD PARTY COLLECTION SYSTEM, WHICH SHOULD, UH, INCREASE SOME OF OUR, UH, WARRANT COLLECTIONS, UH, FOR THEM. 
          UM, SEVERAL THINGS THAT USED TO BE KIND OF MANUAL PROCESSES ARE NOW BEING AUTOMATED WITHIN OUR EXISTING SOFTWARE. 
          SO ONE INSTANCE IS, UH, YOU KNOW, EACH EMPLOYEE GETS AN ANNUAL COMPENSATION SAYING THAT USED TO BE A PRETTY, UH, MANUAL PROCESS AND NOW IT'S KIND OF AUTOMATED IN OUR SYSTEM AND IT GETS PROCESSED AUTOMATICALLY WITH REALLY NO STAFF TIME. 
          UM, STAFF HAS BEEN ENCOURAGING THIS PERSON TO HOTSPOTS IF THEY HAVE A TOWN CELL PHONE RATHER THAN HAVING A DATA CARD WITHIN A LAPTOP OR AN IPAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO EACH ONE OF THOSE, UH, CREATES SOME SAVINGS, UM, CONVERTED ALL THE BUILDING INSPECTION SERVICES TO DIGITAL. 
          SO I KNOW LESLIE HAD MENTIONED THAT YESTERDAY, UM, AIRPORT, I THINK JOEL HAD MENTIONED THIS DURING HIS BUDGET PRESENTATION, BUT, UH, THEY, THEY IMPLEMENTED A MY COI INSURANCE PROGRAM, WHICH INSTEAD OF THEM MANUALLY TRACKING ALL THE INSURANCE, UM, COVERAGES FOR ALL OF THEIR TENANTS, THEY KIND OF AUTOMATICALLY HAVE A SERVICE THAT IS DOING THAT FOR THEM. 
          UM, AND AS, UH, WAYNE MENTIONED YESTERDAY, REPLACING THAT BUSINESS REGISTRATION OF THE WORK SURVEY AND THEN SOME ITEMS THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT AND GONNA CONTINUE TO LOOK AT FOR NEXT YEAR AND THE NEXT BUDGET PROCESS. 
          UM, SO KIND OF CONSOLIDATING OUR SHIRT APPAREL, UM, PURCHASES AND LOOKING AT A TOWN WIDE SOLICITATION, UH, FOR THAT TO GET SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE BY UTILIZING SOME OF OUR EXISTING SOFTWARE. 
          UM, FOR THINGS LIKE PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS, OUR BENEFITS, OPEN ENROLLMENT, UM, SOME NOTIFICATIONS, UM, OR ACTION FORMS THAT, UH, GO THROUGH HR. 
          UM, LOOKING AT SOME POTENTIAL SAVINGS ON THE LIBRARY CARD PROGRAM, UM, WELLNESS PROGRAMS AND KIND OF SETTING UP A 10 OFFICE SUPPLY STORE INSTEAD OF ORDERING OFFICE SUPPLIES, MAYBE ASKING ANOTHER DEPARTMENT OR HAVING A, UH, A PLACE WHERE SOMEONE CAN, CAN GO AND, AND SEE 
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IF THAT'S ALREADY IN STOCK RATHER THAN US SPENDING MONEY, UH, TO GET SOMETHING IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT MAY HAVE. 
          UH, LOOKING AT, UM, TYLER, A CONTENT MANAGER, WHICH IS OUR ERPS DOCUMENT STORAGE SOLUTION VERSUS LASER FISH, WHICH IS A, ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR. 
          UM, ARE THERE SOME LICENSES THAT WE CAN MAYBE CANCEL WITH LASER FISH TO SAVE THE TOWN MONEY FOR THINGS THAT, UH, MAYBE HAVE THE TOWN'S ERP PROGRAM, UH, LOOKING AT SOME OF OUR FEE STRUCTURE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, FOR KIDS CAMP OR BOSS LOCKER KEYS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO RECOVER OUR COSTS FOR THOSE. 
          UM, AND THEN LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, DOES EVERYBODY IN THE TOWN THAT'S AN EMPLOYEE NEED TO HAVE THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE CHECKED EVERY YEAR? JUST FOLKS THAT ARE DRIVING CITY VEHICLES OR USING CITY EQUIPMENT OR THAT TYPE OF THING. 
          SO, SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE LOOKING, BEING LOOKED AT FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION FOR FUTURE YEARS. 
          SO ANY QUESTION ABOUT RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION BEFORE I GET INTO DECISION PACKAGES? NO QUESTION, BUT JUST TO COMMENT. 
          I REALLY, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE DOING THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE ALWAYS, IT'S, IT'S EASY FOR US TO SAY, WELL, WITH THE SIZE OF BUDGET WE HAVE, LOOKING AT THOSE SMALLER ITEMS, IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE, BUT IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND IT ADDS UP OVER TIME. 
          AND I THINK IT ALSO CREATES THAT MINDSET WITHIN THE STAFF, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THOSE EFFICIENCIES AND, AND I ASSUME WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. 
          UM, IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY INCENTIVE FOR, UH, EMPLOYEES TO DEFINE THESE KIND OF THINGS? WE DIDN'T DO AN INCENTIVE THIS YEAR, UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT WE CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY COULD, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ORIGINALLY, BUT WE DIDN'T IMPLEMENT ANYTHING WHERE WE KIND OF . 
          YEAH, I THINK IT'S, UM, SOMETHING WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT. 
          I MEAN, I THINK WE REALLY WANTED TO, ALL THESE IDEAS ARE ALWAYS GONNA BE BEST IF THEY COME FROM THE GROUND UP. 
          SO I THINK A LOT OF WHAT YOU SEE HERE, IT WAS FROM THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS KIND OF FOLKS ALL ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION AND TAKING A LOOK AT THOSE THINGS. 
          SO SOME OF 'EM WERE HIGH LEVEL, SOME WERE MORE GROUND UP. 
          I THINK NOW THAT WE'VE CAUGHT A LOT OF THESE IN THIS PROCESS, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO TRY TO INCENTIVIZE FOLKS. 
          SO CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL LOOK AT IN FUTURE YEARS. 
          BE CITY MANAGER FOR A DAY, HUH? , HAPPY. 
          GO GET OFF THE STREET AND DO SOMETHING. 
          I THINK IT'S A VERY, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? NO, AT THIS POINT GOING INTO OUR DECISION PACKAGES. 
          HEY STEVEN, I JUST, I JUST WANNA JUMP IN QUICKLY ON DECISION PACKAGES FOR, UM, FOR OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          AND I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN DECISION PACKAGES AS THE BUDGETS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED, JUST TO MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR WHAT THOSE ARE. 
          SO WHENEVER WE HAVE, WHEN WE COME FORWARD WITH THE BUDGET, WHEN YOU SEE DECISION PACKAGE, THAT'S REALLY AN INCREASE. 
          IT COULD BE A PERSONNEL INCREASE, A SERVICE LEVEL, INCREASE, A NEW PROGRAM. 
          SO SOMETHING THAT'S IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE KIND OF HAVE AS OUR BASE SERVICE LEVEL RIGHT NOW, OR A CHANGE IN OTHER POSITIONS. 
          SO, UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT THAT IS, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL. 
          AND BEFORE WE GET INTO FISCAL YEAR 2025 DECISION PACKAGES, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF SOME THINGS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT. 
          I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UM, TWO NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I THINK STARTED RIGHT AFTER THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT WAS ADOPTED. 
          BUT, UH, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT MOST OF THESE WERE THE SHIFT DECISION PACKAGES IN THE PRIOR YEAR THAT WEREN'T COMPLETED IN THAT YEAR. 
          SO THE WORK IS PARTIAL PARTIALLY BEING DONE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          UM, BUT THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS. 
          UH, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, UM, HAD AN AGENDA MANAGEMENT AND STRATEGIC PLANNING SOFTWARE THAT'S THE, UM, INVISIO SOFTWARE AND, UH, GRANICUS, WHICH IS GONNA BE THE AGENDA MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE. 
          UM, S COMMUNICATIONS, THERE WAS, UH, SOME MAINTENANCE TO THE HARRIS RADIO SYSTEM, UM, PARKS. 
          THIS WAS INCLUDED IN THE MIDYEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT, UH, REALLY RELATED TO BIDS BEING, UH, DIFFERENT. 
          SO THEY KIND OF CHANGED THEIR LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WAS INCLUDED, UM, FOR A HYBRID MODEL FOR LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE, UH, CONFERENCE CENTER. 
          UM, OVER HERE THERE WAS SOME AUDIO AND VIDEO EQUIPMENT IN THIS ROOM, UH, THAT WAS INCLUDED. 
          THE MIDYEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS REALLY MORE THAN A ONE YEAR PROCESS. 
          SO THAT WAS ONE WAS BUDGET IN THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR THAT, UH, WAS NOT COMPLETED. 
          SAME THING WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE THEATER OPERATIONS STUDY, UH, THE ATHLETIC CLUB, FITNESS WALL TREATMENTS THAT TRANSPORT , THOSE ARE ALL THINGS FROM THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR THAT, THAT WERE BUDGET. 
          AND, UH, BROUGHT THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, TASK FUNDING, UH, VEHICLE OUTFITTING. 
          AND I WON ONE GRANT, WHICH IS REALLY A PASS US TO INTECH. 
          SO THOSE WERE ALL THINGS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE MIDYEAR BUDGET MEETING. 
          AND THEN GOING FORWARD, THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET DECISION PACKAGES. 
          SO A LOT OF THESE YOU WOULD'VE HEARD YESTERDAY. 
          SO, UH, AND THEN I'VE GOT SOME DETAILED SLIDES FOR EACH OF THE ONES THAT YOU DID HAVE YESTERDAY. 
          SO, UH, POLICE, 
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AGAIN, THERE'S AN OFFICER IN CHARGE PAY, AND IT'S AN ANNUAL RECURRING COST, ABOUT $14,400. 
          UH, POLICE FIELD TRAINING OFFICER PAY, THAT'S AN ANNUAL RECURRING COST, ABOUT $10,000. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT THAT POLICE, UH, WENT OVER. 
          THAT'S AN ANNUAL RECURRING COST IS ABOUT $10,000. 
          BUT THERE ARE TWO, UH, PROPOSED NEW CITY RESERVE HOLIDAYS FOR JUNETEENTH AND VETERAN'S DAY. 
          AND THE COST THERE IS REALLY RELATED TO POLICE AND FIRE OVERTIME BECAUSE THEY'RE OPEN 24 HOURS A DAY. 
          SO THOSE FOLKS, UH, THAT ARE WORKING STILL GET PAID HOLIDAY HOURS. 
          SO THERE'S A COST THERE FOR THAT, FOR THOSE, UH, APARTMENTS THAT DON CLOSE. 
          UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THAT VEHICLE MOUNTED, UH, HELMET AND HELMET MOUNTED, UH, CAMERAS OF THE RECURRING COSTS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. 
          THOSE, THE ABATEMENT SERVICES, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, THAT WAS DISCUSSED. 
          UH, THE INCREASE IN RECREATION PROGRAM THAT WAS DISCUSSED BY JANA YESTERDAY. 
          AND THEN, UH, IN GENERAL SERVICES, THERE'S STAKEHOLDER SERVICES. 
          UM, AND THOSE ARE REALLY, WE HAVE DAY QUARTER SERVICE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          THIS IS REALLY TO INCREASE THAT TO ALL OUR FACILITIES, UM, THROUGHOUT, UH, THE DAY SO THAT, THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT THAT CAN BE GIVEN UP IN TIME. 
          AND SO IN TOTAL, THERE'S, FROM THE CURRENT COST OF ABOUT TWO $14,000, BUT OFFSETTING REVENUE ABOUT 55,000. 
          SO NET DEPOSITS BUDGET THERE, IT'S ABOUT 159,000. 
          SO AGAIN, UH, THE, THE TWO, UH, CITY HOLIDAYS, THOSE ARE VETERAN'S DAY AND JUNETEENTH, UH, WE LOOKED AT 18 SURROUNDING CITIES. 
          UH, THEY ALL AVERAGE BETWEEN 10 AND 11 HOLIDAYS. 
          A COUPLE OF 'EM HAVE 14 HOLIDAYS. 
          UH, THE COLONY LIMO, UH, ADDISON CURRENTLY OFFERS NINE. 
          UH, SO THIS IS REALLY THE KEY FOCUS AREA OF FINANCIAL HEALTH AND ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE. 
          TRACK RETAIN, TOP TIER. 
          SO IT GETS US REALLY, UH, WITHIN, UH, THE SCOPE OF WHAT THOSE OTHER CITIES, . 
          HEY, STEVEN, REAL, REAL QUICK ON THIS, UM, YOU'VE GOT 18 SURROUNDING CITIES. 
          IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE USE 18 RATHER THAN OUR COMPARATOR CITIES? WELL, THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THE COMPARISON CITIES, BUT I BELIEVE IT ALSO INCLUDES, BUT WE'VE GOT THE COLONY IN , WHICH AREN'T COMPARISON CITIES, AND I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW, DO YOU KNOW WHICH, UM, THERE, BUT THERE WERE A COUPLE JUST CLOSE ONES THAT AREN'T IN OUR COMPARISON BASED  AND THEN ABATEMENT SERVICES. 
          SO WE, THIS WAS DISCUSSED YESTERDAY AND WENT OVER BY LESLIE. 
          SO ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? THIS IS THE ACCIDENT SHEET. 
          UM, AND THEN DAY QUARTER SERVICES, SO IT, AS I MENTIONED THIS, UH, WOULD EXPAND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DAY QUARTER SERVICES, WHICH THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, WHICH IS CURRENTLY FIVE HOURS A DAY, UH, WOULD EXPAND THAT TO ALL OF THE TOWN FACILITIES. 
          SO THIS PERSON, UH, WOULD VISIT ALL OF OUR FACILITIES EACH DAY, EACH DAY, PERFORM DEEPER CLEANING, UM, SPOT CHECKS, SUPPORT THE  CLEANING, AND PROVIDE MORE RAPID RESPONSE, UM, TO ISSUES THAT ARISE IN THE DAY. 
          SO THIS IS THE KEY FOCUS AREA OF INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTENANCE. 
          AND THEN THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE OF CONTINUING TO INVEST AND MAINTAIN OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN. 
          THIS HAS A RECURRING COST OF, IS THIS JUST ONE PERSON? UM, A QUARTER? I BELIEVE IT IS ONE PERSON, CORRECT. 
          IT IS A VISUAL HOUR EXISTING CONTRACT. 
          SO WE HAVE ONE PERSON NOW THAT'S DOING BASICALLY FIVE HOURS A DAY, RIGHT? SO THIS IS THAT BEING FOUR, EIGHT HOURS PER DAY. 
          SO THREE MORE HOURS IS $50,000 A YEAR. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M DOING THE MATH RIGHT. 
          SO THIS PERSON'S THREE MORE HOURS A DAY. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS PERSON'S OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          THE TRANSPORTATION SUPPLIES, SMOKE SUPPLIES, IT INCLUDES ALL THE CLEANING SUPPLIES AND ALL THAT. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST THE PERSON THAT'S THE ADDITIONAL SUPPLIES, AND NOW THEY'RE TRAVELING TO EACH OF THE FACILITIES AS WELL. 
          SO ONE PERSON CLEANS ALL THOSE BUILDINGS DURING THE DAY. 
          YES. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A, WE DO HAVE A SERVICE THAT COMES AT TIDE AS WELL AND CLEANS ALL THE BUILDINGS AT NIGHT. 
          BUT THIS IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I'VE RECENTLY BEEN AT THE SERVICE CENTER, SOMETIMES PEOPLE TRAP MUD OVER THERE. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S NOBODY RIGHT NOW TO CLEAN IT UP. 
          UH, SO THIS WOULD KIND OF EXTEND THAT, UH, TO THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE SOMEONE GOING TO CHECK IN IN EACH OF THOSE FACILITIES AND, AND, UH, ASSISTING IN THOSE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          STEVEN, IF YOU COULD JUST GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND SUMMARY REAL QUICK. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE 0.1 THING OUT. 
          UM, THIS ONE. 
          YES. 
          SO IN THIS BUDGET, I THINK WE SHOULD STEP BACK AND TAKE A BIG PICTURE. 
          WE REALLY DON'T HAVE TOO MANY GENERAL FUND DECISION 
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PACKAGES, NO NEW FTES THIS YEAR. 
          AND THAT'S DRIVEN BY TWO THINGS. 
          UM, ONE, WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD THE 4% MERIT, 4% INCREASE THAT WE HAVE IN THERE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES. 
          SO WE REALLY PRIORITIZE HAVING THE INCREASES FOR OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES AS OPPOSED TO LOOKING FOR NEW POSITIONS. 
          AND TWO, WE ARE SEEING THE IMPACT OF, OF THE NEW TAX LAW AND KIND OF THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE OVER OUR OPERATIONS RATE. 
          AND ALSO WITH THE GOAL OF TRYING TO KEEP, AS YOU SAW AT THE BEGINNING, AT THE, THE INTRO SLIDES YESTERDAY, TRYING TO KEEP OUR TOTAL TAX RATE THE SAME AS OUR NET SERVICE RATE GOES UP. 
          SO A PRIORITY FOR US WAS ON ENSURING THAT WE CAN DO THOSE INCREASES FOR OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES AS OPPOSED TO A LOT OF NEW PACKAGES HERE FOR DECISION PACKAGES. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE REFLECTED WITH, UM, NOT A, A HUGE REQUEST FOR NEW ITEMS IN THE GENERAL PLAN AND INFORMATION ON THE DAY PORTER SERVICES ACT CONTRACT LABOR. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S WHY WE DON'T SEE THE 0.3 FT OR, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING ON TO THE HOTEL FUND. 
          AND I'LL HAVE SOME, SOME DETAIL FOR, FOR EACH OF THESE EXCEPT THE ONES THAT, UM, ABBY HAD DONE OVER YESTERDAY. 
          BUT, UH, THERE IS, WITHIN SPECIAL EVENTS, UH, CREATING A FULL-TIME VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR FROM A PART-TIME POSITION. 
          IT'S CURRENTLY, UH, 0.7, UH, OF AN FT AND A PART-TIME PERSON THAT IS WORKING OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND. 
          BUT, UH, WITH SOME OF THAT INCREASED VOLUNTEER COORDINATION AND SPECIAL EVENTS, UM, MAKING THAT FULL TIME AND, AND PAYING A PORTION OF THAT OUTTA THE HOTEL FUND. 
          THERE IS A TOURISM COORDINATOR POSITION. 
          UM, AND WE HAD HAD A, A WORKSHOP WITH, UH, A DISCUSSION OF A TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WITH ADDITIONAL MARKETING, UM, ADDITIONAL THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO YOU SEE THAT THE COST THERE, 108,000. 
          SO THERE IS A REVENUE OFFSET TO THAT AND REALLY FROM THAT TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, UH, I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          AB HAD GONE OVER THE THEATER MANAGER YESTERDAY, UM, THAT POSITION, UH, AND SHE HAD ALSO GONE OVER THAT MAJOR THEATER CAPITAL FUNDING OF $30,000. 
          AND THEN IN ADDITION, THERE'S A SENIOR COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST, UH, POSITION, UH, AND THERE IS AN OFFSETTING REVENUE ON THAT AS WELL. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS REALLY TIES INTO THAT TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. 
          AND THAT REVENUE, UH, THERE IS REALLY RELATED TO THOSE ASSESSMENTS FROM THAT TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ARE TAXABLE. 
          SO IT'S GONNA INCREASE OUR, UH, HOTEL TAX BY ABOUT 2%. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HELP PAY FOR THAT POSITION. 
          SO IN TOTAL, IN THE HOTEL FORM, THERE ARE, UH, SOME POSITIONS, UH, ABOUT 421,000 IN RECURRING COSTS. 
          UH, BUT THERE IS A REVENUE OFFSET OF 255,000. 
          SO OUR OVERALL, UH, THAT TOTAL COST RECURRING IS ABOUT 169,000. 
          AND WE FEEL LIKE THE, THE ADDITIONAL 2% IS GONNA COVER THE, THE NEW, UH, FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. 
          WELL, SO THERE, THERE'S TWO THINGS. 
          ONE, ON THE TOURISM COORDINATOR, UH, YOU SEE THERE'S THE 150,000 MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO REALLY 10% OF THE ASSESSMENT THAT'S GENERATED BY THAT TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, WE'RE GONNA CHARGE 'EM FOR OUR SERVICES, WHICH PART OF THAT IS GONNA BE THIS POSITION AND OUR BILLING SERVICES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA COLLECT $150,000, UH, BASICALLY IN A, IN ADMINISTRATIVE FEES RIGHT. 
          TO COVER OUR EXPENSES FOR THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE 105,000 APPROXIMATELY, BECAUSE THE 2% ASSESSMENT IS NOW TAXABLE. 
          SO IT'S GONNA RAISE OUR, OUR HOTEL TAX BY 2%. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, OKAY, SO I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          SO THOSE TWO POSITIONS WILL BE FULLY FUNDED BY THIS, THIS NEW TAX? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE THE 2 55 COMING BACK, WHETHER WE HAVE THOSE TWO PEOPLE OR NOT, OR THOSE TWO PEOPLE GENERATING THOSE, THOSE, WELL, THEY, THEY COULD, THOSE TWO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GENERATE MORE EVIDENCE, BUT IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY TIED TO THOSE TWO NUMBERS. 
          BUT IN THEORY, YES, THOSE POSITIONS ARE, BUT THOSE ARE SOME OFFSETS WE'RE GETTING AND WE'RE, UH, TAKING ON TWO MORE EXPENSES. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, NOT SPECIFIC. 
          YEAH, GENERALLY. 
          AND, AND WHEN I GET TO THE, THE, THE LONG-TERM PLAN FOR THE HOTEL FUND, UM, WHAT THE HOTELIER ASSOCIATION ESTIMATES IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS IS THAT, UH, YOU'LL GENERALLY GET, FOR EVERY DOLLAR, UM, THAT THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS GENERATING, UH, YOU'LL SEE ABOUT $7, UM, IN NEW HOTEL STAYS. 
          AND FOR US, THAT'S GONNA INCREASE OUR HOTEL TAX. 
          I DIDN'T PUT THAT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF JUST STARTING OFF, BUT WHEN WE GET TO FUTURE YEARS, I DO HAVE AN ESCALATION OF OUR HOTEL TAX REALLY RELATED TO SOME OF THE MARKETING AND GETTING, UM, YOU KNOW, LARGE CONFERENCES TO, TO 
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COME VISIT OUR TOWN AND, AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          SO AGAIN, THE VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR POSITION, SO THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, OUR CURRENT VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR POSITION FROM A PART-TIME TO A FULL-TIME POSITION. 
          SO REALLY THE INCREASE IN HOURS IS THE GROVE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MINIMIZE SOME OF THOSE STAFF COSTS RELATED TO THE EVENT. 
          SO, UM, HAVING FOLKS THAT WANNA VOLUNTEER OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE SAID, WE'RE ALSO UTILIZING POTENTIAL SEASONAL EMPLOYEES FOR SOME OF THESE EVENTS WILL REDUCE THAT COST. 
          UH, BUT, BUT THAT 0.3 IS, UH, COMING OUT OF A HOTEL FUND FOR THAT REASON. 
          UH, AND REALLY THE KEY FOCUS AREA IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UH, WITH THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE, CREATING A MEANINGFUL SHORT TERM SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          UH, SO THE RECURRING COST FOR THAT, UH, 0.3 OF THAT EMPLOYEE IS ABOUT $28,000. 
          SO QUESTION ON THAT ONE. 
          SO THERE WOULD BE AN OFFSET POTENTIAL THERE ALSO, CORRECT? YES. 
          OR FULL-TIME OVERTIME PAYING, PAYING OUR EMPLOYEE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT I DID MENTION THE RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION WAS, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEERS AND SEASONAL EMPLOYEES HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          AND I THINK I HAD TO BE DETERMINED THE AMOUNT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT IDEALLY, YES, THIS WOULD, UH, REDUCE THOSE, UH, PERSONNEL OR CONTRACT RELATED EXPENSES FOR PERSONNEL RELATED TO SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          UM, BUT AS OF NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT AMOUNT. 
          GOT IT. 
          AND THEN THE TOURISM COORDINATOR, SO THIS WOULD AGAIN, BE A PART OF THAT TOURISM, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. 
          SO, UM, WE WOULD BE REALLY REQUIRED BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE MARKETING DOLLARS, UM, REALLY WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE THE MARKETING AND SALES EFFORTS, UH, TO SUPPORT TOURISM AND GROW, UH, OUR MEETING BUSINESS. 
          UM, UH, SO IT WOULD BE A NEW WEBSITE, UH, FOR THE TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. 
          SO THERE'D BE A TIME INVESTMENT FOR THAT, UH, TO KEEP IT CURRENT, ENGAGE THE HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT, UH, POSITION IS PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THAT, UH, TEA PIT ADMINISTRATIVE FEE. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT'S A RECURRING COST OF ABOUT 108,000. 
          BUT AGAIN, FROM THAT TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, UM, WE ANTICIPATE THAT ADMINISTRATIVE FEE ABOUT 150,000. 
          SO ACTUALLY THAT'S A LITTLE BIT NET POSITIVE TO THE HOTEL FUND THAT  AND THEN SENIOR COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST. 
          UH, SO THIS WOULD BE A SENIOR COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST WHO WOULD ASSISTIVE, UH, VIDEO VIDEOGRAPHY, CONTENT GRAPHIC DESIGN. 
          UH, THEY'D REALLY BE THE LEAD ON COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING PROJECTS, UH, WITH THE BRANDING OF THE THEATER PROMOTION OF PUBLIC ARTS, SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCER PROGRAMS. UH, WE HELP CREATE CONTENT FOR WEBSITE, SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, TOWNS NEWSLETTER, UH, AND WORK WITH DEPARTMENTS TO PROMOTE THEIR PROJECTS. 
          UH, AND THEN THEY WOULD ALSO ASSIST WITH EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS IF NEEDED. 
          UM, SO THIS IS THE KEY FOCUS AREA OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UH, LEVERAGING THE ADDISON BRAND THROUGH THE ADDISON WEBSITE, SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          AND THIS HAS A RECURRING COST OF ABOUT $117,000. 
          UH, ONE TIME COST IS ABOUT 2,700. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, WE HAVE THAT REVENUE OFFSET, UH, REALLY FOR THAT INCREASE, UH, HOTEL TAX GENERATE. 
          STEVEN, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. 
          WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE THROWING THESE NUMBERS UP THERE FOR THE COST OF THESE POSITIONS, DOES IT INCLUDE BENEFITS OR IS IT JUST IT DOES. 
          SO IT INCLUDES BENEFITS, UM, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES THEIR BENEFITS AT THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE LEVEL BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO WE'RE HIRING. 
          SO, UM, IF THEY'RE SINGLE, UH, THE INSURANCE IS A LOT CHEAPER THAN IF THEY'RE HAVE FAMILY COVERAGE. 
          SO WE ASSUME THAT ANY VACANT POSITION HAS FAMILY COVERAGE, UM, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE. 
          SURE. 
          SO IF THEY DON'T HAVE A FAMILY, THEN PAY. 
          SO THIS IS THE ALL IN NUMBER. 
          THAT IS THE ALL IN NUMBER. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          UM, SO MOVING ON TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO WAYNE DID PRESENT THIS YESTERDAY FOR THE EMPLOYMENT MEAL VOUCHERS FOR TARGETED INDUSTRIES. 
          UM, DID WE, DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY ADDITIONAL ABOUT THIS? OKAY, I'LL MOVE ON. 
          UM, SO NOW I GET INTO A SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND. 
          AND THIS FUND IS REALLY FROM SAVINGS OR EXCESS REVENUE THAT IS GENERATED BY THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UM, SO, UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF, UM, THINGS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD GONE OVER YESTERDAY RELATED TO THEIR MENTAL HEALTH SCREENING AND THEIR, UH, UTILIZATION OF SOME OF THOSE PASS FUNDS FOR TRAINING, UH, 30,000 AND $15,000 RESPECTIVELY. 
          UH, LESLIE HAD GONE OVER THE, OF UTILITY GRANT FUNDING OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          UM, AND THEN JANA HAD GONE OVER THE, UH, PARKS PLAN, ASSET REPLACEMENT, THE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE, UH, MASTER PLAN, 
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AND THEN THE TRAIL AND PARKS SCHEMATIC DESIGN. 
          UM, SO IN TOTAL, UH, WITHIN THAT FUND, THE DECISION PACKAGES ARE, UH, $45,000 OCCURRING AND ABOUT SEVEN, $701,000 ON TIME COST, UH, FOR A TOTAL. 
          IS THE HUNDRED THOUSAND ON DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, IS THAT THE WALLS? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO, AND LESLIE HAD GONE OVER THIS SLIDE YESTERDAY. 
          DID WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS OR OKAY, MOVE ON. 
          SO, STREET SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND, AND I'M GONNA HAVE SHANNON, UH, COME UP AND GO OVER A FEW OF THESE DECISION PACKAGES RELATED TO THIS AND HIS, HIS FUND. 
          SO I'LL PASS IT OVER. 
          COULDN'T LET SHANNON GET OUT WITHOUT HAVING GOOD EVENING. 
          SHANNON HICKS, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING SERVICES. 
          UH, THE FIRST DECISION PACKAGE TONIGHT IS A CRACK CEILING PROJECT OF BELTLINE ROAD FROM THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY ALL THE WAY TO MARSH AND ADDISON ROAD. 
          FROM BELTLINE ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTHERN CITY LIMITS. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PERIODICALLY GO OUT AND SEAL THE CRACKS TO HELP PREVENT WATER INFILTRATION FROM DEGRADING THE SUBGRADE AS WELL AS CAUSING BUCKLING DURING FREEZING EVENTS. 
          CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THE WATER'S GETTING DOWN THERE, IT'S FREEZING, IT'LL END UP CAUSING BUCKLING IN THE STREETS. 
          THE COST OF THIS IS, UH, THIS DECISION PACKAGE IS APPROXIMATELY $375,000 QUESTIONS. 
          WHY IS IT SELF-FUNDED? WHY IS IT SELF I'LL SIT BACK. 
          , I'M SORRY. 
          SO THE, THE STREET SELF-FUNDED FUND IS, IT WAS REALLY, EXCUSE ME, STARTED WITH A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UM, I SEE. 
          AND KIND OF THE WAY THAT WE'VE MAINTAINED THIS IS THAT WE'VE HAD SOME COST SHARING AGREEMENTS WITH, SAY, THE CITY OF FARMER'S BRANCH FOR SOME ROAD WORK OR, UH, DALLAS COUNTY, UM, OR UVR FOR SOME STUFF THAT ATTRIBUTED PARK. 
          AND SOME OF THOSE ONE TIME REVENUES THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, WE'VE PUT IN THIS FUND. 
          UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT'S GOTTEN ITS FUNDING. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE A RECURRING. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          SO THE FUNDS ARE ALREADY HERE, THE FUNDS ARE ALREADY HERE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? UM, THE NEXT IS AN UPDATE TO THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN. 
          THIS CAME FROM THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION BACK IN JANUARY. 
          UH, THERE'S, UH, INTEREST IN UPDATING OUR CURRENT MTP TO REFLECT, UM, NOT ONLY WHAT OUR ASPIRATIONS ARE, BUT ALSO SOME REALISTIC, UM, IDEAS OF WHAT WE CAN DO WITHIN SOME OF OUR EXISTING CORRIDORS. 
          THIS PLAN WILL BE UPDATED IN PARALLEL WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BOTH SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE WHEN THEY GET DONE. 
          SO WE'D ANTICIPATE THE MTP BEING COMPLETED, THE UPDATE ABOUT THE SAME TIME AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BEING COMPLETED. 
          THE, UH, TOWN WIDE TRAFFIC COUNTS. 
          THIS IS A SEPARATE DECISION PACKAGE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF IT WAS DECIDED NOT TO DO THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WE STILL HAD THE OPTION OF DOING THE TRAFFIC COUNTS. 
          LAST TIME WE DID CITYWIDE COUNTS WAS BACK IN 2018. 
          THIS WILL GO THROUGH AND COUNT ALL THE TRAFFIC MOVEMENTS ON ALL OUR MAJOR THOROUGH REPAIRS, ALL THE TURNING MOVEMENTS, UM, THROUGH ALL OF OUR ROADWAYS. 
          WE GIVE REQUESTS ALL THE TIME FROM DEVELOPERS AND, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS WANTING THE MOST RECENT COUNTS WE CAN GIVE THEM. 
          'CAUSE IT HELPS THEM TO MARKET THEIR, UH, THEIR, THEIR PROPERTIES. 
          AND IT ALSO HELPS US WITH PLANNING AND TRAFFIC AND THAT SORT OF THING GOING FORWARD. 
          SO THIS IS A ONE TIME COST OF $65,000. 
          UH, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS START DOING SOME MORE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE ON THEIR STREETS. 
          A LOT OF THE STREET, UH, MAINTENANCE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE GO TO BASICALLY GOING OUT AND DOING PANEL REPLACEMENTS, WE'D LIKE TO INCREASE, UH, THE, THE, THE FOAM INJECTION THAT WE DID THIS PAST YEAR. 
          WE'RE ABLE TO SAVE A LOT OF PANELS AND NOT REPLACE THEM. 
          UM, THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO GO OUT THERE AND SAVE THE EXISTING STREETS THAT WE HAVE. 
          WE WANT TO GO ALSO GO OUT AND DO SOME STRATEGIC, UH, CRACK CEILING. 
          UM, I THINK THIS COMING YEAR WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN, GETTING THOSE THAT PAVEMENT CRACK, UH, THOSE PAVEMENT, CRACK SEAL. 
          AND THEN IN THE FOLLOWING YEARS, WE'LL JUST ROTATE AROUND TOWN AND HAVE 'EM ON A GOOD ROTATION. 
          THIS IS A ONE TIME COST OF $125,000. 
          I ANTICIPATE THIS COMING BACK EVERY YEAR, UM, FOR, UH, FOR FEE FUNDING GOING FORWARD AS WELL. 
          THOSE ARE THE ONES I HAVE FOR THIS PORTION. 
          SO I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          SO WHERE DO WE SEE THE BALANCE OF THAT FUND? IF YOU LOOK AT, ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE BUDGET DOCUMENT? I AM. 
          OKAY. 
          ON, UH, PAGE 52. 
          IT'S CALLED THE STREET SELF-FUNDED PROJECT FUND. 
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I, I'M NOT SURE WHICH THE BUDGET DOCUMENT, NOT PRESENTATION, SO OH, OH, OUT HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST WANTED, YEAH. 
          HAVE AN IDEA WHICH ONE, BUT JUST PICTURE STEVEN, THAT'S UNDER MAINTENANCE. 
          UH, THE DECISION PACKAGES THAT SHANNON  ARE THE MAINTENANCE AND THE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES. 
          SO THE TOTAL, THOSE PROBABLY $695,000. 
          GOT IT. 
          AND THEN THERE ARE SOME CAPITAL PROJECTS IN THE BUDGET OUT OF THIS FUND AS WELL. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF A MIX OF MAINTENANCE, UH, PROJECTS AND CAPITAL APPROVAL PROJECTS. 
          SO SHANNON, HOW DO WE KNOW WHEN A PANEL'S ABOUT TO FAIL OR WILL BE FAILING THE PONDING PUDDLING? SO BUCKLING, ONCE YOU SEE IT, YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE IT EVERYWHERE. 
          IF YOU'LL GO NORTH ON QUORUM NORTH OF KELLER SPRINGS, UH, AS YOU START TO GO AROUND THE CURVE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE PANELS ARE STARTING TO SEPARATE LIKE THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE SEEING SOME SUBGRADE FAILURE THERE IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT GOING THROUGH AND DO SOME, UH, SOME LIFTING OF THAT PANEL AND SUBGRADE UM, REPAIR, WE'LL LOSE THAT PANEL IN ABOUT A YEAR. 
          AND SO EACH TIME WE REPLACE ONE OF THOSE PANELS, IT'S ABOUT HOW MUCH MORE $40,000 TO REPLACE A SINGLE PANEL. 
          YEAH. 
          LIKE THAT VERSUS FOAM VERSUS THE FOAM. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S A REALLY, UM, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE CONCRETE, SO WE WANT TO TRY TO SAVE IT. 
          SO IT COMES AFTER JUST SETTLING IN TIME. 
          IT DOES HALF, HALF A DOZEN YEARS, DOZEN YEARS THAT TYPICALLY HAPPEN. 
          IT JUST DEPENDS. 
          WE JUST DID ONE ON THE, THE TOLL ROAD ON THE, THE SERVICE ROAD. 
          IT WAS AT ABOUT THAT MUCH SEPARATION AND IT HAPPENED OVER A COUPLE MONTHS. 
          WE JUST SAW IT AND IT STARTED HAPPENING. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO, SO IS THERE ANY USE WORD WARRANTY? IS THERE IF MIDWAY ROAD SORT OF GO UP ONE A YEAR, DO WE HAVE WARRANTY ISSUES WITH WE DO, YEAH. 
          SO MIDWAY ROAD HAS A, A ONE YEAR WARRANTY ON EVERYTHING OUT THERE FROM THE DATE WE ACCEPT. 
          SO NOT FROM THE DATE WE PUT IT IN. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THE DATE WE ACCEPT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, THAT RARELY EVER, EVER OCCURS. 
          'CAUSE IT'S 3, 4, 5 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. 
          WELL, IT'S A LOT MORE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU CAN DO THE AIRPORT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, AND ACTUALLY THESE HAVE, THESE, WERE IN JOEL'S PRESENTATION FROM, UH, JUNE. 
          SO I DON'T HAVE SLIDES FOR THESE, BUT IF THERE'S QUESTIONS, UH, THERE WAS THE AIRPORT GIS CONTRACT, UH, AND THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT, UH, IN THE AIRPORT BUDGET. 
          BUT, UM, THERE'S NOT DETAILED SLIDES SINCE THAT'S ALREADY PRESENTED EARLIER. 
          SO THE, THE NEXT ITEM WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS AN ADDITIONAL, UM, ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION INSPECTOR. 
          UH, LAST YEAR WE PROCESSED 445 RIGHT OF WAY PERMITS. 
          THAT'S WHAT ALL THE FRANCHISE UTILITY COMPANIES THAT ARE OUT THERE, THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE FIBER OPTIC, THEY'RE TEARING UP THE, THE YARDS IN OUR RESIDENTS OR THE BUSINESSES. 
          AND WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND INSPECT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM AND FOLLOW UP TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING ALL THE PROPER RESTORATION. 
          WE'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR INSPECTING ALL THOSE BIG DEVELOPMENTS GOING IN TREE HOUSE, TREE HOUSE ONE TREE HOUSE TWO, POTENTIALLY. 
          UH, THE JPI PROJECT, WE'RE OUT THERE INSPECTING ALL OF THAT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE INSPECTOR THAT'S DOING THAT. 
          WE HAVE A RIGHT OF WAY MANAGER WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR PERMITS AND THAT SORT OF THING, AND REVIEWING PLANS AND HE FILLS IN AS WELL. 
          BUT WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE GETTING ADEQUATE COVERAGE OUT THERE TO ENSURE THAT THE, UH, PEOPLE IN OUR RIGHTS AND WE ARE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. 
          THIS IS A RECURRING COST OF, UH, JUST UNDER 90, $97,000 AND A ONE TIME COST OF $66,000 FOR A VEHICLE AND COMPUTERS AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          WE'RE PROPOSING TO BRING THIS OUT OF THE STORMWATER FUND. 
          SO SHANNON, IF WITH THAT ONE THERE'S ENOUGH, THERE'S ENOUGH CONSISTENT WORK FOR SOMEBODY TO ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO, WE, WE NEED TO GET BETTER COVERAGE ON THOSE RIGHT OF WAY USERS THAT ARE OUT THERE, BE ABLE TO GET ON TOP OF THEM AND, AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND IT IS NOT SLOWING DOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT IS A $25,000 RECURRING COST FOR A FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR SERVICES. 
          UM, THIS WAS CURRENTLY WAS PREVIOUSLY DONE BY WILSON AND KEBO. 
          HE WAS OUR PROJECT MANAGER AND HE WAS A CERTIFIED FLOOD FLOOD PLANNING ADMINISTRATOR. 
          UM, SO THIS WOULD BE WITH, UH, HALF AN ASSOCIATES. 
          THEY DO A LOT OF OUR STORMWATER WORK. 
          THEY DO GREAT. 
          THIS IS JUST A, A PLUG NUMBER. 
          WE DON'T THINK WE USE THAT MUCH, UH, ANY GIVEN FISCAL SCHOOL YEAR, BUT IF WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN AND THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM DOING WORK INSIDE THE FLOOD PLAIN, THEY WOULD STEP IN AND BE ABLE TO HELP US, UM, ADMINISTER THAT. 
          SO ON, ON THAT, NOTHING PLANNED, BUT, BUT IF SOMETHING COMES UP THAT'S 
          [04:10:01]
RIGHT. 
          AND IT'S JUST AN ON-CALL CONTRACT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, NEXT IS, UH, CALLWAY, UH, PUMP STATION. 
          UM, WE NEED TO REPLACE A PUMP OUT THERE. 
          IT WAS ORIGINALLY INSTALLED IN 1996. 
          WE'VE DONE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE ON IT AND BEEN ABLE TO GET ALONG TO WHERE IT IS TODAY, BUT IT IS TIME WE NEED TO REPLACE IT. 
          THIS IS, UH, ONE OF THREE PUMPS WE JUST INSTALLED, UH, A NEW PUMP WITH THE, UH, BYPASS PUMPING SYSTEM WE PUT IN. 
          SO THE NUMBER TWO PUMP NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AND WE ALSO NEED TO SEAL THE FLOOR. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PHOTOS STARTING TO PEEL UP AND THE LIQUIDS THAT GETS SPILLED IN THERE PRETTY GROSS. 
          SO WE GONNA GO CLEAN 'EM UP THESE. 
          SO, UH, THIS IS A ONETIME COST OF A $175,000. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, A COUPLE OF THESE WERE DISCUSSED YESTERDAY. 
          THE, UH, VEHICLE AND HELMET ME OUT ON CAMERAS WERE DISCUSSED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THEN JANET DISCUSSED THE PUBLIC ADDRESS AND MUSIC SYSTEM. 
          SO BOTH OF THOSE ARE, UM, PROPOSED TO COME OUT OF THE IT REPLACEMENT FUND. 
          UH, BUT THERE IS AN, AN ADDITIONAL ONE HERE FOR SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS OF $150,000. 
          UH, SO THIS IS REALLY, UH, ADDING SOME SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS TO TOWN FACILITIES. 
          SO THIS IS A, UH, COUNCIL INITIATIVE THAT WILL IMPROVE SECURITY FOR, UH, STAFF IN THE TOWN'S ASSETS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, YOU NOTICE THERE'S, MOST OF YOUR FACILITIES ARE ARE OPEN, SO ANYBODY CAN WALK IN AND KIND OF GO WHEREVER THEY WANT. 
          SO THIS IS REALLY ADDING THAT WHERE THERE'S SECURITY AREAS FOR STAFF. 
          IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF ACCESS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AT ALL OF THE, UH, PUBLIC FACILITIES. 
          UH, BUT THERE MAY, UH, AGAIN, BE SOME, UH, CHANGES IN STAFF PROCEDURES OR THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OPEN TO A VISITOR. 
          STAFF MAY BE ESCORTING THEM TO AN AREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS FOR. 
          SO THIS IS UNDER THE, UM, FINANCIAL HEALTH, UH, ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE, EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES FOR CONSOLIDATING AND OR EXPANDING TONE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. 
          SO A LOT OF THESE HAVE, UH, BEEN OVER, UH, ALREADY. 
          SO JANET HAD GONE OVER THE WEST GROVE, UH, FORM AND BICYCLE LANES AS WELL AS THE ATHLETIC CLUB, OUTDOOR POOL RESTROOMS AND PERIMETER FENCE RENOVATIONS. 
          UM, JOEL HAD, UH, GONE OVER HIS, UH, ROOF REPLACEMENT AT GLEN CURTIS IN THE FORCE FIELD STORAGE EXPANSION. 
          AND THEN SHANNON'S GONNA GO OVER THE, UH, UH, A MI WATER METER MODERNIZATION, CELESTIAL PUMP STATION BATHROOM AND THE AS CIRCLE TOWER AXI DRIVEWAY. 
          PASS IT BACK OVER. 
          SHANNON. 
          SHANNON, IF YOU JUST, I JUST, I I DID WANNA ADD JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE SAW EARLIER. 
          UM, THAT'S A BIG NEED FOR US. 
          ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS ARE, ARE WIDE OPEN. 
          SO MOVING OVER HERE WITH KIND OF THE CITY HALL STAFF MOVING OVER HERE, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DESIGN THIS BUILDING, HAVE A LOT OF SECURITY CLOSE OFF TOWN HALL, MAKE IT MORE OF A INTERNAL SERVICE DEPARTMENT. 
          WE'RE ALREADY DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS AT, AT THE SERVICE CENTER, BUT, SO WE'LL HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WILL HELP THERE. 
          BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WILL CHANGE ACROSS THE TOWN IS TO GO TO KEY CARDS AND KEY ACCESS AND BADGE ACCESS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. 
          RIGHT NOW IT'S ALL KEYS. 
          AND THAT CREATES A NUMBER OF ISSUES. 
          UM, ONE BEING, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY LEAVES, YOU GOTTA GO COLLECT ALL THOSE KEYS, MAKE SURE WE HAVE ACCESS TO KEYS, YOU GET BADGE ACCESS, AND YOU KIND OF FLIP THAT ON AND OFF, MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS THE APPROPRIATE ACCESS. 
          SO THAT'S A BIG ONE. 
          WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO DO THAT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY NEEDED TO HOLD, FEEL SAFE WHEN THEY COME TO WORK. 
          SO, JUST WANTED TO, TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT. 
          SO THE, THE, UH, COST ON THAT IS 150,000. 
          THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE MUCH TO DO ALL OF THAT. 
          IS THAT JUST THE FIRST PHASE OF IT? WELL, AS, AS, AS YOU'VE CALLED, UH, WE HAVE GENERATION OF CONFERENCE YEAH. 
          BUDGET  HERE AND THE SERVICE GONNA BE ALREADY STARTED THAT PROCESS. 
          AND THEN CLOUD ALREADY HAS, UM, PRETTY FACILITY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. 
          FOR THAT REASON, WE GOT VENDORS AND WE GOT COST ON THEM. 
          AND THAT'S OKAY. 
          AND A QUICK QUESTION WHILE WE'RE ON THAT, UM, INTERNAL SERVICES FUNDS ON THE, UM, PUBLIC ADDRESS AND MUSIC SYSTEM. 
          IS, IS THAT A COMBINATION SYSTEM OR, YEAH, DANA WENT OVER IT A LITTLE BIT YESTERDAY, BUT IT'LL BE USED FOR TWO PURPOSES. 
          ONE FOR, TO HAVE SOME LIGHT MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND. 
          THAT'S KIND OF THE, THERE'S TWO SIDES TO THAT, RIGHT? SOME FOLKS SAY WE DON'T NEED MUSIC BECAUSE EVERYONE'S LISTENING TO HEADPHONES AND SOME FOLKS REALLY WANT THE MUSIC AND THEY, THEY KEEP KIND OF BANGING JANNA'S DOOR TO ASK FOR IT. 
          BUT WHAT WE SEE, A BIG BENEFIT OF IT, A SERVICE STANDPOINT IS THE SUB PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT. 
          SO WE CAN MAKE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE ENTIRE BUILDING. 
          SO 
          [04:15:01]
IT IS BOTH MORE TO A, TO A SAFETY FUNCTION ALMOST. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WOULD THAT ALSO INCLUDE THE OUTDOOR POOL AREA ALSO, WHERE, WHERE STAFF COULD COMMUNICATE THAT WAY? YES. 
          SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION SINCE I WAS GONNA JUST HOLD THE QUESTION AND JUST TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT SINCE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC. 
          SO 80, I KNOW, I KNOW IT WAS LIKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS LAST YEAR WHEN WE DECIDED NOT TO DO IT. 
          NOW IT'S DOWN TO 80. 
          IF WE WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR, WILL IT BE 60 ? BUT THE QUESTION IS REALLY, HEY, NOW ARE WE DOING A HARD WIRE SYSTEM OR ARE WE DOING WIRELESS? I MEAN, I, I AM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THAT, BUT I DO ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT YEAH, JANET OR HAMID CAN TALK TO THAT. 
          'CAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT CAME OUTTA LAST YEAR LOOK AT SOME KIND OF, IS DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO GO WIRELESS? WE REALLY FOUND THAT IT DOESN'T, THAT THE WIRE SYSTEM IS MORE RELIABLE RIGHT NOW. 
          THEY PROBABLY THAT THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          WIRELESS AND WIRE AS BACKUP. 
          OKAY. 
          BACKUP. 
          SO THE NEXT UH, PROJECT IS A METER MODERNIZATION. 
          UH, THIS IS FOR OUR WATER METERS THAT ARE OUT IN THE FIELD. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE OVER 4,000 METERS, UH, THROUGHOUT TOWN, COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND THEY'RE COMBINATION OF MANUAL READ WHERE THE PEOPLE GO OUT, OUR GUYS GO OUT, THEY OPEN THE LID, THEY PUMP THE WATER OUT, THEY WIPE THE MUD OFF OF IT, THEY RIGHT PUNCH A NUMBER IN. 
          THEY READ IT, UH, TOUCH PADS WHERE THEY GO OUT AND THEY TOUCH IT WITH A STICK TO READ IT OR THEY CAN DRIVE BY WITH A HANDHELD. 
          WHAT THIS PROJECT WOULD DO, IT WOULD REPLACE, UPGRADE OR MODIFY EVERY SINGLE METER IN THE CITY IN THE TOWN TO ALLOW US TO READ THEM EVERY 15 MINUTES AUTOMATICALLY. 
          SO THIS GIVES FINANCE A LOT MORE ACCURATE DATA. 
          THERE'S A LOT FEWER MISTAKES FROM KEYPAD ENTRIES THAT ARE, THAT ARE INCORRECT. 
          EVERY READ IS AT THE EXACT SAME TIME EVERY MONTH. 
          'CAUSE IF YOU READ AT DIFFERENT TIMES, YOUR METER'S STILL RUNNING SO YOUR BILL'S NOT CONSISTENT. 
          AND ALSO GIVES A LOT OF BENEFITS TO OUR CUSTOMERS FOR RESIDENTS. 
          FOR INSTANCE, YOU CAN SET OF LEAK DETECTION. 
          SO OUR METERS ARE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW IF THERE'S A LEAK. 
          SO IF THERE'S ANY, IF THERE'S CONSISTENT FLOW FOR 24 HOURS, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT USING THAT. 
          NORMALLY YOU, YOU MORE THAN LIKELY HAVE A LEAK. 
          YOU CAN GET AN EMAIL AND TEXT MESSAGE THAT SAYS YOU HAVE A POSSIBLE LEAK. 
          OUR STAFF CAN GET NOTIFIED THAT YOU HAVE A POSSIBLE LEAK. 
          WE CAN GO HANG A DOOR HANGER AND SAY, HEY, YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THIS. 
          YOU CAN SEND HIGH AND LOW USAGE, UM, ALERTS IN CASE YOU, YOU KNOW, HAVE NOT HIGH USAGE ALERTS TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON. 
          IF YOU DO HAVE HIGH BILL, YOU CAN GO IN AND LOOK VERY GRANULARLY AT YOUR USAGE. 
          YOU CAN SEE YOU HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF USE AT 3:00 AM IT'S PROBABLY YOUR SPRINKLER SYSTEM. 
          YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT. 
          SO THIS WOULD REALLY MODERNIZE, UH, UH, OUR METER READING SYSTEM AS WE HAVE IT TODAY. 
          HMM. 
          QUESTION. 
          UM, THIS IS INTERESTING TIMING. 
          I RECENTLY RECEIVED, UH, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS CAME FORTH AND HIS MOM HAD SOME LEAKS AND THEY'VE GOT A SKY HIGH WATER BILL. 
          WHAT, WHAT MIGHT TYPICALLY OCCUR, YOU KNOW, IF THE RESIDENT COMES AND SAYS, HEY, I'VE GOT A SKY HIGH AND I DIDN'T KNOW I GOT IT FIXED NOW, BUT WOULD YOU, DO I, CAN I GET A CREDIT? YES, WE DO OFFER CREDIT. 
          SO WE, WE DO, IF IF THEY HAVE A LEAK AND THEY GET IT FIXED, THEN THERE IS PROGRAM DO AN ADJUSTMENT A LITTLE BIT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SO THAT'S PART OF OUR, I THINK IT'S, IT'S IN OUR ORDINANCE, WHICH ALLOWS ME TO, TO DO A LEAK ADJUSTMENT FOR THEM, UH, ONCE A YEAR, UM, AND GO BACK AND ADJUST THREE MONTHS IF WE KNOW IF THAT'S A BIG AMOUNT CUMULATIVELY OVER A YEAR'S TIME. 
          I MEAN, IS THIS GONNA, IS THIS CHANGE GONNA SAVE US, UH, POSSIBLY FROM A LOT LESS OF, OF YOUR TIME AND DOING THAT AND GIVING CREDITS? WELL THIS, THIS WILL DEFINITELY, AND THE WAY REALLY IT'S WORKED AND I'VE DONE A COUPLE OF THESE IN OTHER CITIES WHERE ON THE BILLING SIDE IS THAT, LIKE SHANNON MENTIONED, WE'RE GETTING ALERTS. 
          UM, SO IT REALLY GENERATED WORK ORDER. 
          UM, SO IT'LL COME INTO OUR SYSTEM AS AN ALERT, GENERATE A WORK ORDER AND SEND IT OUT TO HIS GUYS TO GO CHECK THAT METER OR GIVE THEM A DOOR HANGER OR WHATEVER OUR PROCESS IS. 
          UM, SO YES, IT, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE ONCE A MONTH SO WE GET ONE READING A MONTH. 
          SO YOU'RE REALLY ONLY KNOW IF THERE'S A LEAK IF SOMEONE GOES OUT THERE AND IS LOOKING AT THAT METER A LOT OF TIME, YOU KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE'RE ALREADY LATE. 
          SO THIS IS REALLY, LIKE YOU SAID, IF IT'S 24 HOURS CONTINUOUS USAGE, IT'S SAYING YOU PROBABLY HAVE A LEAK BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE WATER ON 24 HOURS A DAY UNLESS IT'S LIKE FREE FREEZING OR SOMETHING AND YOU HAVE YOUR, YOUR FAUCET, WHICH YOU COULD SAY, OH YOU KNOW, NO I HAVE MY FAUCET DRIP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT UM, SO IT DOES GIVE US A LOT MORE PROACTIVE APPROACH TO HELPING OUR CUSTOMERS KNOW IF THEY HAVE A LEAK OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF ISSUE THAT THEY MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ALSO I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT AT LEAST ONE, IF NOT A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING AROUND WITH A LITTLE METER READERS 
          [04:20:01]
ON A STICK IF YOU WILL. 
          IT'S UM, HANDS ON DECK ON METER EVERY DAY. 
          EVERYBODY IN OUR WATER QUALITY AND LINE MAINTENANCE TEAM IS OUT THERE READING METERS. 
          WE HAVE SEVEN ROUTES AND READING 4,000 METERS IN ONE DAY SO WE CAN GET 'EM ALL DONE. 
          SO THIS WILL ELIMINATE THAT. 
          GIVE US AN EXTRA DAY EVERY MONTH FOR OUR TEAM TO BE OUT DOING JET SEWER LINES AND RIGHT. 
          CHECKING WATER QUALITY. 
          AND THAT'S, SO THERE'S A GOOD LITTLE COST SAVINGS WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT. 
          MORE EFFICIENT RELATED TO THIS, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          MATH NUMBER TO THAT EQUATION 12 TIMES A YEAR. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HEY SHANNON, THIS IS A BIG PROJECT. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW LONG IT TAKES FROM START TO FINISH TO GET THAT DONE? AND IS THIS, DO WE CONTRACT THAT OUT DECEMBER OR WE DO IT IN HOUSE. 
          THIS IS ALL CONTRACTED OUT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO THIS. 
          UM, WE'RE HOPEFUL THIS WILL TAKE ABOUT A YEAR TO DO. 
          UM, I WOULD ANTICIPATE HAVING AN AGENDA ITEM TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT TO THIS ON THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER SO THAT WE CAN GET STARTED ON IT. 
          UM, AND WE WILL WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO, TO FOCUS ON CERTAIN AREAS, MAKE SURE THEY ALL GET DONE AND THEN MOVE ON TO OTHER AREAS. 
          BUT IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ABOUT A, A ONE YEAR PROCESS. 
          UM, THE GOAL WOULD BE TO GET ALL THE TWO INCH AND BELOW METERS DONE FIRST 'CAUSE THAT'S MOST OF OUR COMMERCIAL AND MOST OF OUR RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND THEN COME BACK AND HIT THOSE BIG METERS AS WE NEED TO. 
          I WILL POINT OUT ANY OF THE METERS THAT ARE OVER TWO INCH, IF THEY'RE LESS THAN 10 YEARS OLD, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO OUT AND REPLACE 'EM. 
          WE'RE GONNA REPLACE THE REGISTERS. 
          IT'S JUST A LOT OF MONEY WE DON'T SPEND, IF THEY ARE OVER 10 YEARS, WE'RE GONNA FLOW TEST THEM TO SEE IF THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED. 
          AND IF THEY DO, THAT NUMBER'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN THERE. 
          THIS IS, IF WE HAD TO REPLACE EVERY SINGLE ONE, THIS IS WHAT THEY WOULD COST. 
          WE HOPE IT'LL BE ALSO INCLUDES REPLACING METER BOXES, A LOT OF CRACKED METER BOXES. 
          IF YOU GO DOWN THE RIGHT LANE, YOU CAN LOOK AT OVER ALL THE CONCRETE METER BOXES. 
          THIS WILL HELP REPLACE ONE THOSE, DOES MONEY COME FROM A BOND PROGRAM OR IS IT A CO OR DO WE HAVE IT IN THE ACCOUNT? SO PARTIALLY THIS IS THE, THE $2.2 MILLION WE SAVED FROM THE PROJECT. 
          SO IT'S HELPING TO FUND THAT AS WELL AS THAT WAS CORRECT. 
          SO, SO THERE IS $2.2 MILLION IN BOND PROCEEDS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. 
          SO WE'VE ALREADY SOLD THESE BONDS FOR UTILITY PROJECTS. 
          AND THEN 950,000 OF THIS IS PROPOSED JUST FROM THE UTILITY FUND FROM MONEY THAT'S ALREADY IN THAT, IN THAT FUND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS BECAUSE IT'S IN THE UTILITY FUND, THIS IS ALL PAID THROUGH THE RATES THAT FOLKS PAY ON THEIR WATER BILLS OR WATER . 
          SO SHANNON, WHAT DOES THE, WHAT DOES THIS WORK LOOK LIKE TO SAY RESIDENT? IS IT ALL THEY HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN ANY WAY OR? WELL, WE'RE GONNA BE TURNING THEIR WATER OFF FOR PROBABLY 30 TO 45 MINUTES TO CHANGE THE YEAR OUT. 
          SO THERE'LL BE A LOT OF PUBLIC OUTREACH AS WE GO INTO AN AREA. 
          WE'RE GONNA PLASTER IT WITH DOOR HANGERS AND SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT EVEN SOME OF THOSE LITTLE SIGNS, PUTTING 'EM OUT MAYBE VERY MESSAGE SIGN OUT, IT'S COMING OUT AND THEN MAKING CONTACT WITH PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT WASHING THEIR HAIR WHEN YOU TURN THEIR WATER. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          SO DO YOU HAVE A MODEL OF THE COST SAVINGS FOR YOUR ALL HANDS ON DECK ONE DAY A MONTH? IT SEEMS LIKE WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT. 
          WELL WE DIDN'T, DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT AS A COST SAVING 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT LIKE FURLOUGHING THEM FOR A DAY. 
          THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE OUT THERE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR SYSTEM MORE INSTEAD OF BEING READING METERS, THEY'RE OUT THERE ACTUALLY JETTING THOSE SEWER LINES OR, OR EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. 
          WE'RE JUST ABLE TO DO THAT ONE MORE DAY. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE MORE TIMES THERE, THERE WOULD BE AN EFFICIENCY NUMBER THAT WE COULD SEE THAT IT WOULD SAVE ALL THAT TIME. 
          WE, WE CAN CALCULATE. 
          I'D LIKE TO GET THAT. 
          YEAH, SURE. 
          AND SO IT WILL THE RESIDENT BE ABLE TO GET THE ALERTS? ABSOLUTELY. 
          THERE'S A DASHBOARD AND THIS DASHBOARD WILL BE SET UP. 
          DOES IT LOOK LIKE THAT AGAIN? YES. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS THE ONE, THIS IS IN BRENHAM. 
          WE CAN CUSTOMIZE THIS AND IT'LL BE LINKED TO OUR BILLING SYSTEM TOO. 
          IT'LL HAVE A LINK SO THAT IF THEY WANT TO CLICK ON IT AND PAY THEIR BILL, IT'LL REDIRECT 'EM TO THAT PAGE. 
          WE MAY BE ABLE TO EMBED THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT YET. 
          BUT IT'S GONNA BE VERY SIMILAR TO THAT. 
          WE HAVE OUR LOGO ON THERE AND WHAT PHONE NUMBERS, IF THEY HAVE ISSUES AND THAT SORT OF, DOES IT HAVE A METER SHUT OFF SO WE WATER SHUT OFF? WE CAN DO THOSE. 
          THEY ARE QUITE A BIT MORE EXPENSIVE PER METER. 
          AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL DO TARGETED METERS LIKE THAT. 
          WE HAVE SOME, UH, PEOPLE THAT WE TURN OFF A LOT AND WE CAN PUT A SPECIAL METER THERE AND STEVEN CAN HIT ANOTHER BUTTON ON HIS COMPUTER AND IT'LL TURN THAT METER OFF WELL, SO THEY CAN TURN IT BACK ON TOO. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S A COST THAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE TO SEND PEOPLE OUT, YOU KNOW, TO TURN SOMEBODY'S WATER METER BACK ON AFTER HOURS AND THE CUSTOMER HAS TO PAY IT. 
          BUT NOW THAT CAN BE DONE REMOTE FOR THOSE REPEAT OFFENDERS, BUT IT IS, IT'S LIKE A $500 METER VERSUS $140 METER. 
          YOU DON'T WANT DO IT EVERYWHERE. 
          [04:25:02]
YEAH, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT PROJECT. 
          UH, THE NEXT PROJECT IS WE'D LIKE TO ADD A RESTROOM. 
          THE CELESTIAL, UH, CELESTIAL PUMP STATION. 
          THIS IS KIND OF A REGIONAL BATHROOM FOR ALL THE CREWS, ALL THE PARKS, CREWS, ALL MY MAINTENANCE CREWS. 
          THEY ALL SHOW UP HERE. 
          UM, 'CAUSE IT'S ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE TOILET THERE. 
          SO WE'D LIKE TO ADD, UH, ANOTHER RESTROOM FOR THOSE GUYS TOO. 
          UH, FINALLY IS THE, UH, AS TO CIRCLE, TOWER DRIVEWAY, UH, IF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN OUT NEXT TO THE STONE COTTAGE, YOU'LL SEE THE BRICK PAVER DRIVEWAY OUT THERE. 
          IT'S JUST COMPLETELY DETERIORATED AS WELL AS THE FULL ACCESS ROAD THAT WE HAVE TO USE TO GO AROUND THAT TOWER. 
          WE NEED TO REPLACE IT. 
          UM, WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE DOING IS INSTEAD OF GOING BACK WITH BRICK PAVERS HERE TO GO BACK WITH A STAIN STAMP CONCRETE, I THINK IT, IT'S IMPORTANT YOU SET IT NICE WHERE IT IS, YOU KNOW, NEXT TO THE STONE COTTAGE. 
          AND THEN AS WE GO INTO THE PLAN, WE CAN JUST GO TO A REGULAR CONCRETE DRIVEWAY GOING DOWN. 
          THIS IS, UH, TOTAL COST OF ABOUT $225,000, UM, OUT THE, UH, TIL FUND. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THESE OR ME? CAN WE USE STAMP CONCRETE ANYWHERE ELSE? WE JUST DID A STAIN STAMP CONCRETE PROJECT ON ARAPAHOE WHERE WE WENT THROUGH AND REPLACED ALL OF THE BRICK PAVERS IN THE CROSSWALK IN DECORATIVES IN THE MIDDLE WITH STAIN STAND CONCRETE. 
          SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE KIND OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, YOU CAN JUST WRITE DOWN A RABBIT HOE BETWEEN, UM, ADDISON AND MARSH. 
          THE ONE RIGHT AT ADDISON IS OLDER. 
          THE ONES, WE JUST DID IT SURVEYOR ON WEST, WE JUST DID LOOKS REALLY GOOD. 
          DOES IT LAST? IT LASTS A LOT LONGER THAN THE PREPAREDNESS LAST, JUST LIKE IT DOES WITH, UH, REGULAR CONCRETE. 
          OKAY, THANKS SHANNON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          GETTING INTO OUR MAJOR FUNDS OVERVIEW. 
          SO, UM, JUST GONNA DEFINE SOME OF OUR FUNDS. 
          SO WE'VE GOT OUR GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS OUR MAIN OPERATING FUND. 
          UH, THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY USED FOR ANYTHING THAT'S NOT RESTRICTED FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE. 
          UM, SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE MOST OF OUR BASIC SERVICES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, POLICE, FIRE PARKS AND REC STREETS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          UH, THEN WE HAVE SOME SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THAT BUDGET, YOU'VE NOTICED LIKE A POOR TECHNOLOGY FUND OR BUILDING SECURITY FUND, UM, PEG FEE FUND. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF LITTLE FUNDS THAT ARE, UH, RESTRICTED. 
          THAT REVENUE IS RESTRICTED BY THE STATE. 
          UM, SO THERE'S A CERTAIN RESTRICTION FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE ON THOSE FUNDS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE CREATE A SEPARATE FUND FOR THOSE. 
          UM, SO THOSE ARE REFERRED TO A SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS, BUT WE'VE GOT OUR DEBT SERVICE FUND. 
          SO THIS IS THE, UH, INTEREST IN SINKING PORTION OF OUR TAX RATE, UM, THAT IS USED TO PAY THE COUNTY'S GENERAL DEBT OBLIGATIONS. 
          AND THEN WE'VE GOT OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS, UH, WHICH ARE THE UTILITY FUND, THE STORMWATER FUND, AND THE AIRPORT FUND. 
          UH, SO THOSE OPERATE MORE LIKE A BUSINESS, UH, WHERE FEES AND CHARGES FINANCE THEIR OPERATIONS. 
          AND THEN WE'VE GOT OUR INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS AND THE TOWN HAS THREE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS. 
          WE HAVE A CAPITAL EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND AND, UH, IT REPLACEMENT FUND AND A FACILITY MAINTENANCE FUND. 
          AND BASICALLY WHAT THESE FUNDS DO IS THEY PROVIDE SERVICES TO REALLY ALL OF THE OTHER FUNDS IN THE TOWN. 
          SO FOR INSTANCE, UM, OUR FOLKS IN THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE VEHICLES THAT FUND CONTRIBUTES TO THE CAPITAL EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND SO THAT WHEN THEIR VEHICLES NEED TO BE REPLACED, THAT THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO REPLACE THEM. 
          SAME THING WITH THE IT REPLACEMENT FUND. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE, IT, UH, ASSETS THAT EACH DEPARTMENT HAS, EACH DEPARTMENT IS CONTRIBUTING TO THAT FUND SO THAT WHEN WE NEED NEW COMPUTERS FOR YOU BACK, OH, UM, SO THAT WHEN THINGS NEED TO BE REPLACED, MONSTERS, GOOD STOP DOING THAT. 
          STEVEN. 
          ELECTRIC MAGNETIC FIELD, PULS,  DON'T MOVE. 
          SO, AND THEN, UM, SO BASICALLY SO THAT WE CAN REPLACE OR REPAIR ON OUR, OUR FLEET OR IT EQUIPMENT OR REPAIR OUR FACILITIES PROVIDE MAINTENANCE FOR OUR FACILITIES, RIGHT? 
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THOSE ARE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS. 
          SO GETTING INTO, UH, SOME OF OUR CERTIFIED VALUE HISTORY. 
          SO THIS IS A 10 YEAR VIEW OF, YOU KNOW, OUR VALUES AND THE PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTIAL BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, UM, I'M SORRY, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT MAKE UP OUR TAX BASE. 
          SO FOR 2025, ABOUT 69% OF OUR TAX BASE IS COMMERCIAL. 
          UH, ABOUT 15% IS BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY, WHICH IS ALSO COMMERCIAL. 
          IT'S JUST THEIR PERSONAL PROPERTY AND NOT REAL PROPERTY. 
          AND THEN 16% IS OUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. 
          UM, SO A VIEW OF OUR, UH, SALES TAX HISTORY AND THIS, UH, AGAIN, IS, IS A 10 YEAR VIEW. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE BLUE UH, BARS THERE, THERE ARE ACTUAL SALES TAX, UH, THAT'S BEEN EARNED. 
          UM, YOU SEE, UH, THE, THE ORANGE LINE IS GROWTH OR A DECLINE PERCENTAGE WISE OF SALES TAX. 
          AS I KIND OF MENTIONED YESTERDAY, SALES TAX IS A LITTLE BIT MORE VOLATILE THAN OUR PROPERTY TAX. 
          UM, SOME OF THESE NUMBERS, SO FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU LOOK AT 2018 VERY HIGH, WE RECEIVED A VERY LARGE AUDIT PAYMENT, UM, THAT YEAR, WHICH WAS REALLY FROM TAX THAT WE SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED IN 20 15, 20 16. 
          SO SOME OF IT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING, UH, BECAUSE THAT 2018 NUMBER REALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN LESS THAN THOSE OTHER PRIOR YEARS SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER. 
          BUT, UM, GOING FORWARD, LOOKING AT, UH, OUR 2024 BUDGET AND OUR PROJECTION, WE'RE LOOKING LIKE WE'RE GONNA EXCEED OUR BUDGET PROBABLY BY ABOUT, UH, EIGHT AND A HALF PERCENT. 
          UM, SO THAT LED US TO INCREASE OUR PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE PROJECTING ABOUT 16.5 FOR THE CURRENT YEAR AND IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET THERE'S 16,150,000. 
          SO GETTING, GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO OFF WHAT WE ARE, UH, WE'RE PROJECTING, UM, BUT STILL A SLIGHT DECREASE FROM WHAT, UH, WE ANTICIPATE. 
          SO THERE IS STILL A LITTLE CASE OFFICER GO AHEAD. 
          STILL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 2024 BUDGET AND 2024 OBJECTION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , CAN YOU IDENTIFY SPECIFICALLY OR, UM, IN, IN GENERAL, WE HAD MORE, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WE HAD MORE, UH, CONSTRUCTION, UM, CONSTRUCTION TRADE. 
          I THINK WE HAD A, A TAXPAYER THAT HAD BEEN REPORTING TO A DIFFERENT JURISDICTION AND REALLOCATED TO THE TOWN. 
          BUT, UM, SO RECENTLY WE'VE SEEN MORE IT, IT'S REALLY BEEN CONSISTENT, UH, THAT WE'VE SEEN RETAIL. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, OUR RESTAURANTS OBVIOUSLY DO WELL WHOLESALE TRADE, UM, AND INFORMATION SERVICES ARE ALSO A BIG SALES TAX PRODUCER HERE. 
          SO IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY JUST BEEN PRETTY, PRETTY STRONG, UH, PRODUCTION FROM ALL TYPES OF GENERATORS. 
          SO ON AVERAGE, WHEN YOU SEE A SPIKE GOING DOWN, IT'S LIKELY A DELINQUENCY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YEAH. 
          SO WHEN, WHEN THAT ONE WENT DOWN, 2020 WAS, WAS COVID RELATED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, BUT GOING DOWN FROM 2018 TO 2019 MM-HMM. 
          , EVEN IN 2019 WE HAD A LARGE AUDIT PAYMENT THAT WE RECEIVED. 
          UM, SO IT JUST SKEWS IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE ONE WE RECEIVED IN THE PRIOR YEAR WAS I THINK $2.8 MILLION. 
          UM, SO IT WAS, YOU KNOW, 20% OF WHAT WE WOULD GENERALLY PRODUCE IN SALES TAX. 
          SO A VERY LARGE INCREASE. 
          SO IT, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO YEAH. 
          TO TO TELL. 
          SO ONE THING WE LOOK AT IS CURRENT SALES TAX MONTH OVER MONTH, BUT EVEN THAT IF THERE'S SOMEONE WHO'S NOT REPORTING RIGHT. 
          SO BUDGETS TO ACTUALLY BE THROWN OFF WITH ONE PERSON. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          I WANT ASK NANCY'S QUESTION JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. 
          FROM 23 TO OUR PROJECTED 24, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A SLIGHT SHORTFALL. 
          CAN YOU TELL WHERE THAT MIGHT BE COMING FROM? I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE WHERE THERE MAY BE SOME WEAKNESS, WHETHER THAT YES, NOT SPECIFICALLY. 
          AND WE ACTUALLY MAY EXCEED 2023. 
          UM, I WILL SAY IN 2023, WE WERE GETTING SOME AUDIT, UM, PAYMENTS FROM PRIOR YEARS. 
          SO WE SAW A LOT OF NON-COMPLIANCE DURING COVID THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME FOLKS WERE PAYING LATE OR PAYING IN THE WRONG PERIOD OR NOT PAYING AT ALL FOR, FOR QUITE A WHILE. 
          SO WE DID HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT AUTO ADJUSTMENT IN 23 AND SOME PRIOR PERIOD PAYMENTS THAT CAME IN IN 2023. 
          THE STATE DOESN'T TELL YOU WHAT PERIODS THOSE WERE ACTUALLY FOUR, THEY JUST SAY THEY'RE PRIOR PERIOD PAYMENTS. 
          UM, BUT I STILL THINK THAT, AND WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE 2024 PROJECTION IS WE'VE TAKEN OUR ACTUALS THROUGH THE LAST DATA THAT WE HAVE, BUT THEN WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR THOSE MONTHS. 
          SO WE HAVE FOUR MONTHS 
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BASICALLY THAT ARE COMING FROM THAT 2024 BUDGET NUMBER AND THAT, YEAH. 
          EIGHT MONTHS THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY RECEIVED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, SO CERTIFIED VALUES ARE IN, AND I THINK I SAW IN THE BUDGET IT WAS A 5% INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR, 5.1. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? UM, I MEAN, IS IS THAT NUMBER GONNA BE THE NUMBER FOR THIS UPCOMING BUDGET OR IF YOU'RE A PROPERTY OWNER IS NOW THE TIME YOU START TO UM, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, TRY TO REDUCE THAT VALUE? SO, SO THOSE ARE THE CERTIFIED VALUES. 
          SO IT'S ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SOMEONE BEING ABLE TO PROTEST, UH, THEIR VALUE. 
          SO THE 5.1% INCREASE IS THE ACTUAL INCREASE AND IT'S THE PROPERTY BALANCE AS OF JANUARY 1ST EACH YEAR. 
          SO THESE ARE THE VALUES AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2024. 
          UM, SO, AND THE WAY IT KIND OF WORKS IS REALLY THE, THE TAX YEAR IS A YEAR BEHIND THE YEAR WHEN WE ACTUALLY COLLECT THE REVENUE. 
          SO THE REVENUE THAT WE'RE GONNA COLLECT IN JANUARY OF 2025 IS REALLY FROM THE PROPERTY VALUES JANUARY. 
          SO FOR THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT DO CHOOSE TO PROTEST MM-HMM,  WHEN WILL WE KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL SEE AN ACTUAL 5% INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR? YEAH, SO, SO THEY'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 
          SO IN ORDER FOR US TO GET THOSE VALUES THAT WE RECEIVE ON JULY 25TH, UM, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT  HAVE 90% OF THOSE COMPLETE. 
          AND IN OUR CASE, I THINK THEY HAD 97% COMPLETE. 
          WE ONLY HAD, OF OUR 6.5 BILLION IN PROPERTY VALUE, WE HAD 23 MILLION THIS PROTEST. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE CAN FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THE PROJECTED REVENUE NUMBER IS GONNA BE PRETTY CLOSE TO YES. 
          WHAT THE COLLECTIVE WILL BE. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          CAN GO BACK TO THE SLIDE BEFORE THIS, THIS SLIDE SLIDE, THIS ONE. 
          SO IN THE BLUE, THAT'S COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          IS IT, SO DOES COMMERCIAL INCLUDE APARTMENTS? IT DOES. 
          IS THERE ANY DIFFERENTIATION OF HOW MUCH OF THE 69% IS APARTMENTS COMPARED TO OTHER COMMERCIAL? DO YOU EVER SEPARATE THOSE? I HAVE, YES. 
          UM, BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S ALSO RESIDENTIAL, SO I'M JUST, JUST CURIOUS YEAH, WHAT THAT NUMBER IS. 
          UH, I DON'T HAVE THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THE TOTAL, UH, APARTMENT VALUE IS AROUND 1.7 BILLION. 
          UM, UP OUR 6.5 TOTAL VALUE BILLION. 
          UM, I COULD LOOK AND GET THE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT'S, AND THE REASON IT'S CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL IS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE DON'T OWN PROPERTY AND IT'S NOT, IT'S BASED ON AN INCOME METHOD IS THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          SO WHATEVER THE RENTS THAT ARE BEING CHARGED, SIMILAR TO RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT OR OFFICE BUILDING, THAT'S WHAT DETERMINES THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          STEVEN, ON THIS SLIDE I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED TO SEE RESIDENTIAL GOING TO 16%. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEL FOR, UM, WHAT'S OCCURRED WITH THE COMMERCIAL? YEAH, SO THE RESIDENTIAL AND LAST YEAR, UH, WE HAD, UM, SO BASICALLY IF YOU HAVE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, THERE'S A 10% APPRAISAL CAP. 
          SO IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR WE HAD SEVERAL PROPERTIES, I THINK WE HAD ABOUT 83 MILLION THAT WENT OVER THAT APPRAISAL CAP. 
          SO WHEN YOU GET TO THE NEXT YEAR, THAT VALUE COULD START TO BE REALIZED. 
          UM, SO WE'VE CONTINUED TO SEE INCREASES ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE FOR THAT REASON OR THE, THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION CAP. 
          OKAY. 
          ON THEIR PROPERTY. 
          SO WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, AN APARTMENT BUILDING CAN GO UP 20% IN ONE YEAR, UM, UH, A RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEAD PROPERTY CAN ONLY GO UP 10%, BUT IT HAS A CAPPED VALUE WHERE THE NEXT YEAR THAT THE MARKET VALUE ZERO, THE TAXABLE VALUE IS STILL UP. 
          SO APPRAISAL HAVE GONE UP ON THE, ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF WE SEEN THE DECREASE OR ANY, DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANY DROP OR ANYTHING ON THE, UH, THE, UH, COMMERCIAL WE'VE CONTINUED TO SEE INCREASES ON THE COMMERCIAL. 
          IT JUST HAS BEEN LOWER, UH, PERCENTAGE WISE INCREASES AS OPPOSED TO THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. 
          UM, SO WE'VE CONTINUED TO SEE PRETTY BIG INCREASES ON THE APARTMENT. 
          WE HAVE SEEN A LITTLE BIT OF WEAKNESS ON OFFICE RETAIL HAS BEEN, UH, PRETTY STRONG. 
          UM, BUT OVERALL WE'VE SEEN, CONTINUED TO SEE INCREASES IN, IN COMMERCIAL. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          JUST ON A PERCENTAGE BASIS IT'S BEEN OVER. 
          YEAH, I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON THERE IN THE OFFICE SPECIFICALLY THE OFFICE MARKET WITH FIGHTING THOSE APPRAISALS? WELL AND OR DISPUTE. 
          SO, AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS HERE IS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THEY GO THROUGH THE PROTEST PROCESS, 
          [04:40:01]
BUT THESE LARGER PROPERTIES, THEY ALL SUE THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. 
          SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THE PROTEST PROCESS IS, THEY'LL SUE THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. 
          SO THERE'S LOTS OF CONS, LAWSUITS BETWEEN PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND IT'S APARTMENTS, OFFICE BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, GENERALLY ALMOST NEVER RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES BECAUSE YOU JUST GO THROUGH THE PROBLEM PROTEST AND YOU SETTLE AND THAT'S IT. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WORK TO, TO GO AND SUE THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT OF YOUR HOME AND HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO DO THAT. 
          BUT, UM, SO, SO WE SEE A LOT OF CHANGE MORE FROM THE LAWSUIT SIDE AS OPPOSED TO THE PROTEST SIDE. 
          UH, AND THAT FOR, FOR THAT REASON. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IS WE ANTICIPATE A 96.5% COLLECTION RATE ON THE PROPERTY TAXES. 
          AND IT'S NOT REALLY THAT NOT EVERYONE'S PAYING, EVERYBODY IS PAYING, BUT WHAT WE GENERALLY SEE IS ABOUT A 3.5% REDUCTION IN VALUE RESULTING FROM THESE LAWSUITS HERE, OVER HERE. 
          AND IS OUR BUDGET BASED ON THAT LESS? THREE AND HALF PERCENT? IT IS. 
          SO ON THE, UH, 16% RESIDENTIAL, IS THAT HOMESTEAD ONLY OWNED PROPERTY? IT'S NOT ONLY HOMESTEAD. 
          SO THEY'RE NOT ALL HOMESTEADS, BUT THAT IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. 
          IT'S TOWN HOMES, IT'S CONDOS. 
          SO A DUPLEX WOULD NOT BE ON THERE. 
          A DUPLEX GENERALLY FALLS WITHIN A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. 
          UM, BECAUSE THERE'S, IF IT'S A RENT HOUSE, YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE COMMERCIAL. 
          UH, NO, A RENT HOUSE WOULD STILL SHOW UP IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNIT RENTAL. 
          JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          YEAH, A RENTAL CONDO OR RENTAL TOWN HOME, ANY OF THOSE WOULD STILL SHOW UP ON A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. 
          THEY WON'T BE ELIGIBLE FOR A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          UM, SO THEY WOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO THAT 10% APPRAISAL CAP ON A HOMESTEAD. 
          BUT, UM, IT STILL SHOWS UP IN THAT CATEGORY. 
          SO YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE SALES TAX HERE. 
          YES. 
          SO I, I ASSUME THAT BREAKS DOWN BY SECTOR? IT DOES. 
          DO YOU, CAN YOU USE THE NAME AT THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, THE TOP THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE SECTORS? YEAH. 
          UH, FOOD SERVICE, UM, INFORMATION, WHOLESALE TRADE AND RETAIL TRADE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SURE. 
          JUST OFF THE TOP OF THE HEAD. 
          YES, I CAN. 
          OKAY. 
          GETTING INTO EXPENDITURE. 
          SO THIS IS WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR TOTAL BUDGET AND TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET. 
          THIS IS, UH, IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT AS A, AS A PIE, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WHICH FUNDS MAKE UP THAT TOTAL PRICE. 
          SO OUR GENERAL FUND, THE BIGGEST FUND IS ALMOST HALF OF THAT TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET AT ABOUT 49%. 
          THAT UTILITY FUND IS, UH, 17% OF THAT TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET. 
          UH, THEN WE HAVE OUR DEBT SERVICES THERE AT 12%. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE HOTEL FUND AT 7%, AIRPORT FUND AT 6%. 
          AND THEN, UM, SOME OF OUR SMALLER FUNDS HERE, UH, STORM WATER, 3% REPLACEMENT FUNDS, 3%, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS AT 1%. 
          AND THAT 2% MAKES UP ALL THOSE OTHER LITTLE FUNDS THAT ARE KIND OF IN THE BACK OF YOUR BUDGET BOOK THERE. 
          AND THERE'S ABOUT 10 FUNDS THERE THAT MAKE UP THAT, THAT SMALL, UM, 2% THERE. 
          UH, THEN WE GET INTO JUST THE GENERAL FUND. 
          AND THE GENERAL FUND IS, UH, YOU KNOW, CITIES BEING A SERVICE ORGANIZATION. 
          MOST OF IT'S GONNA BE PERSONNEL SERVICES. 
          SO ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND BUDGET IS RELATED TO PERSONNEL SERVICES. 
          UH, THAT'S GONNA BE YOUR POLICE, YOUR FIRE, YOUR PARKS AND REC CREWS, UH, YOUR GENERAL ADMINISTRATION, UH, YOUR GENERAL SERVICES, UM, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          UH, ATHLETIC CLUB, UH, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, THOSE TYPES OF, UH, SERVICES THERE. 
          UH, THEN WE HAVE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, UH, 17%. 
          A LOT OF THAT IS GONNA BE UTILITIES THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR. 
          THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE CONTRACTUAL SERVICE. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, MAINTENANCE 8%, UH, CAPITAL REPLACEMENT AND LEASE. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONTRIBUTING OVER TO THOSE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS TO REPLACE OUR EQUIPMENT AND REPLACE OUR IT TECHNOLOGY AND KEEP OUR BUILDINGS, UH, PERFORMING MAINTENANCE ON THE BUILDINGS. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE ABOUT 3% THERE FOR SUPPLIES, A SMALL AMOUNT THERE FOR CAPITAL. 
          SO THIS IS A, UH, STAFFING SUMMARY FOR ALL OF THE FUNDS. 
          UM, SO IN FISCAL YEAR 2024, WE'RE CURRENTLY AT ABOUT THREE 19.3. 
          FULL-TIME EQUIVALENTS, UH, THERE IS A 3.3, UH, FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT INCREASE, UH, IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2025. 
          PROPOSED. 
          UH, THERE'S A SLIGHT DECREASE IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UH, BUT WE DID TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS IN THE HOTEL FUND. 
          SO THERE IS A 3.3, UM, FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT INCREASE THERE IN THE HOTEL FUND. 
          UH, THERE WAS AN ADDITION THERE. 
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STORM WATER FUND AS WELL, THE CONSTRUCTION INSPECTOR THAT WAS DISCUSSED. 
          BUT OVERALL, UH, 3.34 TIME EQUIVALENT INCREASE, UH, ACTUALLY A DECREASE NEAR THE, THE GENERAL FUND. 
          CAN I, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? YES, SIR. 
          UM, HAS OUR POPULATION CHANGED OVER THOSE YEARS? LIKE IF WE, CAN WE HAVE, I I KEEP HEARING 17,000 IS THE NUMBER, IS THAT HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN ADDISON? YEAH, 17,005. 
          17 FIVE. 
          HAS IT BEEN THAT THE LAST FIVE YEARS? UH, OR IS IT GOING UP? IT'S GOING UP. 
          IT IS GOING UP. 
          SO, BECAUSE I'M SAYING WE WENT FROM 300 NOW TO THREE 20 MM-HMM. 
           3 22. 
          AND I MEAN, I'VE SEEN THOSE, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE SHOWN TONIGHT, BUT YEP. 
          I'M JUST WONDERING, THE LAND ISN'T GROWING. 
          IS OUR STAFF GROWING BECAUSE OUR POPULATION'S GROWING? WELL, PART OF IT IS, AS WE MENTIONED WITH THE HOTEL FUND, ADDITIONAL SERVICES RELATED TO, UM, THAT TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, THE THEATER MANAGER POSITION. 
          SO ADDITIONAL SERVICES THERE. 
          UH, THE STORMWATER FUND HAS ACTUALLY ADDED FIVE AND A HALF POSITIONS, UM, OVER THAT TIME WHEN YOU LOOK AT 2021 TO THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR. 
          SO PART OF THAT IS REALLY THAT, YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          I WOULD JUST JUMP IN WITH AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE TAKE A LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND. 
          OUR BIGGEST FUND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD REALLY ANY INCREASES. 
          WE HAVE A DROP THIS YEAR. 
          UM, SO IF YOU LOOK BACK AND YOU SEE 23 TO 24, THAT INCREASE IS LARGELY DRIVEN BY THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES PROGRAM. 
          SO THAT WAS A NEW SERVICE LEVEL THAT WE'RE PROVIDING. 
          NOW, THOSE POSITIONS ARE GONNA BE, WE'RE GONNA COME AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT TUESDAY. 
          AND THOSE POSITIONS, WE'RE PLANNING ON FUNDING THOSE ENTIRELY FROM THE FEES THAT WE PAY, SO THAT THAT FEE WILL, THOSE POSITIONS WILL NOT BE BORN BY THE GENERAL FUND. 
          THEY'RE GONNA BE BORN BY THE FOLKS WHO PAY THE FEES FOR THAT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST A LITTLE NUANCE TO IT, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE REALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT GENERAL FUNDING, BASICALLY FLAT, EXCEPT FOR THAT INCREASE, WHICH WAS REALLY DRIVEN BY A SERVICE ENHANCE FOR SERVICE ENHANCEMENT, THAT'S GONNA HAVE A DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCE. 
          SO, UM, I THINK, I THINK IT'S A GOOD WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT AS A, AS A CHECK, RIGHT? IF YOU AT A, AT A HIGH LEVEL. 
          BUT THERE IS SOME DETAIL IN THERE, THOSE NUMBERS. 
          AND SIMILAR CONTEXT FOR THE STORMWATER FUND THAT'S ADDED FIVE AND A HALF FTES OVER THAT PERIOD, THAT, UM, HAD TRADITIONALLY BEEN, I THINK FOUR FTES FOR A VERY LONG TIME. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BUILT UP A LARGE FUND BALANCE, SO WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN PROVIDING MORE SERVICES WITH THAT FUND. 
          UM, SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL THAT'S BEEN ADDED. 
          I THINK, UH, LAST YEAR THERE WAS A STREET SWEEPER POSITION, A SUPERINTENDENT OR A, A ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS POSITION, UH, ADDED, UM, SO HAVE MORE STREET SWEEPING SERVICES. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE CONSTRUCTION INSPECTOR THAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER. 
          SO AGAIN, MOST OF THESE ARE RELATED  ARE IS OUR RATIO OF STAFF TO, I DON'T KNOW, SIZE OF THE, OF THE CITY OR SIZE OF OUR POPULATION TO SAY SCO PLANO, FARMER'S RANCH. 
          I MEAN, ARE WE, ARE WE IN LINE PER CAPITA? THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M WANTING TO KNOW. 
          I THINK, UH, I THINK PER CAPITA IS ALWAYS A DIFFICULT NUMBER FOR US. 
          I MEAN THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CRIME OR ANYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE OUR SERVICES ARE REALLY MORE THAN JUST THE FOLKS THAT LIVE HERE WITH CRIME SERVICES, SO TO OUR BUSINESSES. 
          AND WE HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED THOUSAND PLUS FOLKS HERE DURING THE DAY. 
          SO I THINK IT'S A SIMILAR CONVERSATION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CRIME. 
          IT'S JUST HARD TO LOOK AT STRICTLY PER CAPITA AS THAT EXAMPLE. 
          WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT ANALYSIS, BUT I THINK WHENEVER WE DO ANYTHING PER CAPITA HERE, ALWAYS KEEP THAT IN, IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND THAT IT, IT'S JUST A LITTLE MORE NUANCED THAN JUST LOOKING STRICTLY PER CAPITA. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE IT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HARD TO NOT HARD. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANNA SEE THE COMPARISON. 
          IT'S ALMOST LIKE A, LIKE A SLIDING SCALE. 
          IF, UH, WE'RE EXPECTING 15,000, 10,000 NEW RESIDENTS, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO POLICE AND FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES? THAT'S A, A GREAT SEGUE TO THE MATRIX. 
          SO WE'RE DOING THAT STAFFING STUDY AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          WE'RE SAYING AS WE GET MORE DENSE RIGHT, AND WE HAVE MORE FOLKS HERE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR OUR STAFF MEETING SO THAT WE CAN PLAN FOR IT? SO THAT'S EXACTLY, YEAH. 
          AND THE RECOVERY OF OFFICES. 
          IF PEOPLE ARE GOING BACK TO THE OFFICE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          IT DID COVER A LOT OF THAT QUESTION RIGHT THERE ALONE, . 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT SEEMS TO ME ALL A MAJORITY OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE'RE ADDING ARE BEING, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, SELF-FUNDED, RIGHT? THAT TAKE IN, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER, , THAT'S, THANK YOU. 
          FOR THE MOST PART. 
          I, UH, I SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. 
          SINCE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL 
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APARTMENTS, IT IS A COST OF DOING BUSINESS. 
          WHEN WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, WE NEED TO, UH, OR HAVE A LOT OF APARTMENTS, WE NEED TO MANAGE THOSE. 
          IT'S GONNA COST US MORE MONEY TO DO THINGS ABOUT THAT AS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. 
          AND ALSO THE OBSERVATION FOR HOTEL FUND, IT'S AN INVESTMENT. 
          IT'S MARKETING INVESTMENT. 
          SO WE'RE HAVING TO TRY HARDER TO ATTRACT PEOPLE AND KEY PEOPLE IN ADDISON BUSINESS WISE. 
          IT'S JUST, THAT'S AN INCREASED COST THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS BECAUSE WE WERE THE NEW AND SHINY. 
          NOW WE HAVE TO WORK HARDER TO KEEP THE PEOPLE HERE OR THERE FOR INCREASE THE HEAD, THE HEADCOUNT, THE BUDGET. 
          MAKES SENSE. 
          IT DOES. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SO THIS IS A SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE AVERAGE IMPACT ON OUR AVERAGE HOMEOWNER. 
          AND THIS WOULD BE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER WITH A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME. 
          WE HAVE ABOUT 1,390 A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT FISCAL YEAR 2025, AND THIS IS GONNA BE INCLUSIVE OF YOUR, YOUR PROPERTY TAX, UH, AND THEN ALSO YOUR UTILITY BILL. 
          UM, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT 2024, THE AVERAGE, UH, HOMEOWNER WOULD PAY ABOUT $218 A MONTH IN PROPERTY TAX. 
          UH, $28 IN, UH, WATER SERVICE, AND ABOUT $39 IN SEWER SERVICE. 
          UH, WITH THE, UH, PROPERTY TAX RATE THAT IS PROPOSED, UM, THAT, UH, PROPERTY TAX GENERATED BY THE AVERAGE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME, WE GO UP TO ABOUT $241 PER MONTH. 
          AND THEN WHAT PRODUCE FIVE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE, IT'S FOR UTILITIES, UH, ABOUT $30 PER MONTH ON THE WATER SIDE, ABOUT 41 A MONTH ON THE SEWER SIDE. 
          SO THE AVERAGE, UH, ADDISON HOMEOWNER WOULD SEE AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $26 AND 44 CENTS PER MONTH. 
          AND THE INCREASE IN WATER THAT'S DRIVEN BY JUST THE INCREASE DALLAS PASSIVE ALONG COST, THE MAJORITY OF IT IS IN STRICTLY GENERATED BY THE WHOLESALE COST FROM DALLAS, TRINITY RIVER. 
          STEVEN, WHAT'S THE, THE HOME VALUE THAT YOU USE ON THE PROPERTY TAX AVERAGE? WHAT'S THE, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S 4 4 70 80. 
          I THINK IT'S 475,000 4 75. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT, WHAT'S THE, DO WE HAVE A, A DATA OR CHART FOR THE INCREASE OVER LIKE THE LAST 10 YEARS OF THESE NUMBERS? UM, FOLLOW UP, WE COULD PUT THAT TOGETHER BECAUSE WE DONE THIS SLIDE. 
          WE DO THIS SLIDE EVERY TIME, EVERY, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE DONE IT WHERE WE, AND YOU KNOW, I, I CAN INCLUDE THIS PRESENTATION, BUT WE'VE DONE A, WHAT WE CALL A, THIS SERVICE INDEX, ALL THE SERVICES PROVIDING COMPARED TO OUR COMPARISON CITIES. 
          UM, IF THERE'S OTHER FEES, DRAINAGE, TRASH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE ATHLETIC GLOVES, THEY CHARGING, STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          UM, THAT TOTAL BASKET OF SERVICE PROVIDING. 
          BUT WE COULD GO BACK AND, AND LOOK AT THIS. 
          I DON'T HAVE THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW, BUT WE HAVE PROVIDED THIS IS, ISN'T THE WATER AND SEWER INCREASED OUR, OUR PLAN FOR THAT, DOESN'T THAT INCLUDE THE NORMAL AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND REPLACING THAT? SO IT'S NOT GONNA BITE US, UM, DOWN THE ROAD. 
          WE'RE PLANNING FOR THAT AS WE GO. 
          YEAH, IT INCLUDES SOME OF THAT AND KIND OF WHAT I'LL GET INTO THE, I LATER IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE UTILITY FUND. 
          AND REALLY WHAT WE PLAN IS WE PLAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THEN WE'RE PLANNING THOSE DEBT ISSUANCES, UM, YOU KNOW, OUT IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, SO PART OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS UPDATING THE WATER AND SEWER MASTER PLAN. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS ON THE ACCOUNT YEARS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN ON THE UTILITY SIDE, THAT MAY NOT NEED TO OCCUR, OR MAYBE THERE'S NEW PROJECTS WILL COME FROM THAT PLAN. 
          UM, SO THAT COULD IMPACT FUTURE YEARS, WHICH WOULD IMPACT THE RATES. 
          UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE PLANNING BASED ON WHAT'S IN THE PLAN NOW, BUT IF THAT PLAN CHANGES PROJECTS DON'T NEED TO HAPPEN, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD NOT ISSUE AS MUCH DEBT AS WE CAN. 
          SORRY, ONE MORE QUESTION, SIR. 
          IS 5,000 GALLONS NORMAL? FIVE BILLS A LOT HIGHER? IT, IT'S HARD. 
          IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO PUT A NUMBER TO THAT  TO THAT BECAUSE, UH, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY GALLON, THERE'S SO MANY, YEAH, SO THERE'S SO MANY PROPERTIES THAT ARE JUST SO, SO DIFFERENT IN THEIR USAGE THAT IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT PROBABLY. 
          UM, THERE'S SOME PROPERTIES USE LESS, I'M SORRY, DO SOME USE LESS THAN 5,000? YOU KNOW, SOME DO USE LESS. 
          I MEAN THERE, I THINK WE HAVE SOME THAT USE ALMOST NOT VERY MUCH WATER AT ALL, BUT WE HAVE SOME THAT USE 50, 60,000 GALLONS TOO . 
          UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT, BUT PROBABLY MOST OF THEM ORIGINALLY FIVE, 8,000, YOU CHECK YOUR USAGE. 
          SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GOT LEAD, 
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YOU GOTTA LEAD. 
          I HAVE DAUGHTERS, SO . 
          OKAY. 
          AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR IS WE BROUGHT THIS BOARD AGAIN, THIS YEAR IS KIND OF RECONCILED WHERE OUR BUDGET WAS, UH, IN FISCAL YEAR 2024. 
          AND KIND OF DETAIL WHAT THE CHANGES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET TO GET US TO, UH, THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET. 
          SO PART OF WHAT WE CHANGED THIS YEAR CAME FROM THAT RESOURCE MAXIMIZATION. 
          SO WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, I THINK IN TOTAL WE SAID, WE SAID WE SAVED ABOUT 470,000, WELL ABOUT 300,000 OF THAT WAS JUST RELATED TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UM, SO THAT ACTUALLY WAS A REDUCTION IN EXPENDITURE. 
          AND WE INCLUDING THAT 4% COMPENSATION POOL, ABOUT 1.11 MILLION. 
          AFTER THAT WE HAVE A PROGRAM, UH, 5% HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE, ABOUT 0.26 MILLION, UH, DECISION PACKAGES TOTAL, JUST 0.16 MILLION. 
          AND THEN THERE'S BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS. 
          AND REALLY WHAT MAKES UP THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS TWO BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS. 
          ONE BEING, UM, IF YOU RECALL THERE WAS A, A CHANGE WITH OUR, UH, STRUCTURE OF OUR PARKS, UH, LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE. 
          SO THE PREVIOUS YEAR WE HAD A CONTRACTOR, WE HAD THAT CONTRACT, UH, THAT CAME UP FOR BID. 
          IT WAS FOUR EXPENSES. 
          SO NOW WE HAVE A HYBRID APPROACH. 
          SO THERE WAS A BASELINE ADJUSTMENT RELATED TO THAT. 
          UH, AND THEN THERE WAS, UH, SOME BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS RELATED TO, UH, OUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR CAPITAL EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND INCLUDED IN THERE. 
          AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER ADJUSTMENTS EACH DEPARTMENT MAY HAVE FOR UTILITIES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          THOSE COME OUT TO ABOUT 860,000. 
          SO THAT TAKES US TO THE TOTAL CHANGE FROM, UH, OUR 24 BUDGET, 48.16 MILLION ADDITION OF 2.09 MILLION GETS US TO OUR FISCAL YEAR 2025 PROPOSED GENERAL FUND OF 50.25 MILLION. 
          HOW MUCH OF THAT CHANGES COMES WITH INFLATION? WELL, ON THE, ON THE CAPITAL EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT, A LOT OF IT, BECAUSE VEHICLES ARE SO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE, UM, RIGHT NOW THAN THEY WERE. 
          AND DEALERS DON'T WANNA SELL 'EM TO US BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE MORE SELLING THAN RETAIL THAN AT THE CONTRACTED PRICE THE CITY CAN GET THEM FOR. 
          UH, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WITH SOME OF THE THINGS WE BID, LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS OR PARKED, WE SAW THAT. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE JUST SO IT'S NOT NEGLIGENCE ON THE TOWN, IT'S MORE FEDERALLY DRIVEN BY INTEREST RATE? WELL, NOT NECESSARILY. 
          WELL, PARTIALLY, YEAH. 
          SO SOME OF IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, THE SUPPLY CHAIN WITH THE VEHICLES WERE A REAL, IT JUST BECAME DIFFICULT AND EXPENSIVE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, THE FEDERAL POLICY CAN CHANGE TOWN TOWN, YEAH. 
          TOWN PURCHASING, YEAH, SOME THINGS, I MEAN, THE FREEZE RELATED TO, IN 2021, IMPORT UTILITY RATES. 
          SO OUR ELECTRICITY IS MORE EXPENSIVE. 
          IT'S RELATED TO REALLY THAT MORE, YOU KNOW, INFLATIONARY, UH, CONCERNS. 
          BUT, UM, SO IT IS A COMBINATION. 
          NOW. 
          WE JUST HAD SOME THINGS THAT JUST NATURALLY INCREASE. 
          SO THAT'S ALSO INCLUSION THAT BASED ON, I JUST, I WOULD GIVE AN EXAMPLE. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WE PAY FOR THE APPRAISAL THAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT DOES WELL, THAT GOES UP EVERY YEAR. 
          SO THERE'S, THAT'S A BASELINE ADJUSTMENT. 
          ACTUALLY, OURS WENT UP MORE BECAUSE OF THE TAX CHANGES AT THE STATE LEVEL BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON YOUR TAX LEVY. 
          SO ANYWAY, THERE'S JUST SOME, SOME THINGS THAT JUST NATURALLY GO UP, WHICH YOU INCLUDED THAT AS WELL. 
          I WANNA ASK THIS QUESTION. 
          SURE. 
          UM, AND MAYBE IT WAS COVERED IN STRATEGIC PLANNING, BUT 4%, DOES THAT KEEP US COMPETITIVE? IS THAT THAT A GOOD NUMBER FOR YOU AND FOR YOU TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO? YEAH, SO IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          WHAT WE'VE SEEN THIS YEAR, UH, 4%, IF YOU LOOK AT LAST YEAR, I THINK THAT WAS RIGHT AT THE AVERAGE, I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN THIS YEAR, I THINK 4% IS GONNA PUT US ABOVE WHAT MOST OF OUR COMPARATOR CITIES ARE DOING. 
          I THINK IT CAME IN AROUND TWO TO LIKE 3% AVERAGE ON THE OTHER CITIES. 
          THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE IN SOME TOUGH TIMES AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT 0% FOR ALL THEIR NON, THERE'S ONE CITY IN PARTICULAR THAT'S LOOKING 0% FOR ALL THEIR NON-PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT WE'RE SEEING THAT 3% AVERAGE RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WE FEEL GOOD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH THE 4% THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, I THINK THIS POSITION A REALLY STRONG POSITION. 
          THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR. 
          THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NO QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LOOKING AT GENERAL FUND REVENUE, THIS IS KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT WE LOOK AT WHEN I DO THE QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORTS, UH, FOR THE COUNCIL. 
          BUT, UH, YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT OUR ON TAXES, UH, OVERALL ABOUT A TWO AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES IN THE GENERAL 
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FUND. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT OUR NON-PROPERTY THAT'S SALES TAX AND IT'S BEVERAGE TAX. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN FACTORS. 
          I MEAN, THOSE ARE MAKING UP 43 OF THE $50 MILLION, UH, REVENUE BUDGET. 
          UM, SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THOSE ARE AFFECTED THERE. 
          BUT OVERALL REVENUE, UH, FOR THE GENERAL FUND, PROJECTED AT, UH, $50,258,000 AND THEN GETTING INTO EXPENDITURES AND  TRIED TO MAKE THIS, YES, LET'S GO AND TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. 
          I, OKAY. 
          IT'S 6 44 AND WE'RE BACK FROM OUR BREAK. 
          AND WE'LL CONTINUE WITH STEVE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          CONTINUING ON THE GENERAL FUND, WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPENDITURES BY DEPARTMENT. 
          THIS IS OUR GENERAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH MAKES UP THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, AND THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT SERVE, REALLY SERVE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE 10. 
          UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, OUR BUDGET FOR 2024, WE WERE ABOUT 10,580,000. 
          SO THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 2025 DOESN'T REALLY GO UP THAT MUCH. 
          THESE, THOSE TYPE OF DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT 10 MILLION, 743,000. 
          SO NOT MUCH OF AN INCREASE. 
          UH, ABOUT A LITTLE LESS THAN OR A LITTLE OVER 1% INCREASE TOTAL RELATED TO THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT, UH, GOING ON. 
          UH, WHEN WE GET TO, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS NOW, THERE'S A PRETTY BIG INCREASE THERE. 
          UH, SO ABOUT 25.2 MILLION IS WHAT WAS FROM 2024. 
          AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 26,485,000, UH, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          THAT INCLUDES, UH, POLICE, UH, EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS AND FIRE THERE, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          SO IF YOU LOOKED AT 2023 AND GOING INTO 2024, REMEMBER THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES PROGRAM WAS ADDED IN, UH, TO THE BUDGET IN 2024. 
          SO WE WERE SITTING AT ABOUT 2.7 MILLION, 2,765,000. 
          THAT BUDGET'S GOING UP ABOUT 130, UH, 40,000 OR SO THERE. 
          UH, THE STREETS, UH, DEPARTMENT BUDGET, UH, REALLY NOT MUCH OF AN INCREASE THERE. 
          THAT'S PRIMARILY RELATED TO LIMITED PERSONNEL THERE IN THAT DEPARTMENT. 
          AND ALSO, UH, ELECTRICITY, UH, COSTS, UH, BUT A VERY, VERY SMALL INCREASE THERE. 
          UH, THE PARKS AND REC, UH, DEPARTMENTS, UH, SO ABOUT 5 MILLION, THREE 32,000 WAS OUR BUDGET. 
          IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. 
          UH, THAT BUDGET IS PROJECTED TO GO UP TO ABOUT 5,651,000. 
          AND AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS RELATED TO, UM, THAT CHANGE IN SERVICE WITH THE HYBRID MODEL OF, UM, UH, CONTRACT AND STAFF, UH, PERFORMING THAT IN STATE MAINTENANCE WORK. 
          AND THEN, THEN WE'VE GOT OUR RECREATION, UH, JUST UNDER $2 MILLION BUDGET, THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR GOING UP TO ABOUT 2,139,000. 
          SO IN TOTAL, UH, THE BUDGET GOING UP FROM, UH, 48,155,000 TO ABOUT 50,246,000. 
          SO WHEN WE GET TO OUR FUND BALANCE, UH, WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROJECTING THAT WE'RE GONNA END THE, THE END THE YEAR, UH, THIS YEAR ABOUT 20.8 BILLION, WHICH BELIEVE US AT ABOUT 43.5%, UM, OPERATING RESERVES. 
          AND, UH, LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR, UH, JUST A SLIGHT INCREASE OF ABOUT $12,000, BUT BECAUSE OUR EXPENDITURES ARE GOING UP A LITTLE BIT AT A FUND BALANCE, PERCENTAGE NUMBER, UH, DROPS ABOUT 2% DOWN TO 41 4%. 
          AND WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM WE COULD KEEP IN THOSE FUND BALANCES BY? ISN'T IT GOVERNED BY PERCENTAGE ANYWHERE? WELL, THERE'S NOT A MAXIMUM, SO WE YOU MEAN A MINIMUM FUND BALANCE? NO, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A MAXIMUM, BECAUSE THAT OBVIOUSLY AFFECTS THE TAX RATE. 
          OH, I THOUGHT THERE WAS, IT COULD, I MEAN, YOU MAY GET SOME PUSHBACK IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE TOO MUCH IN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY, HEY, WHY ARE YOU TAXING ME SO MUCH? YOU HAVE ALL THIS MONEY, BUT EXACT, OH, I, I GUESS IT ANSWERS MY QUESTION AND I THOUGHT THERE WAS, THERE'S NOT A MAXIMUM, BUT WE DO HAVE A POLICY THAT HAS A MINIMUM. 
          SO WE HAVE A MINIMUM 25%. 
          SO STEVEN, A LITTLE BIT OF A DOWNWARD TREND ON THE, UH, ON THE FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE. 
          YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? I AM. 
          AND SO ONE THING I'LL POINT TO, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, TRANSFERS TO OTHER FUNDS LINE, UM, SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN PREVIOUS YEARS, AND THIS IS REALLY WHAT FUNDS THAT SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND IS EITHER EXCESS REVENUE OR EXPENDITURE SAVINGS IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO THE ORIGINAL BUDGET HAD ZERO THERE, BUT BECAUSE REVENUE HAS A BIT HIGHER AND WE'RE GONNA ADD SOME EXPENDITURE SAVINGS, THEN WE'RE REALLY TRANSFERRING $2 MILLION OVER THAT SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND. 
          UM, SO WE ARE REALLY DICTATING WHAT THAT FUND BALANCE IS. 
          I MEAN, WE COULD LEAVE THAT THERE AND THE FUND BALANCE WOULD GO UP, BUT WE'RE REALLY SENDING IT OVER TO THAT FUND SO THAT WE CAN FUND FUTURE ONE TIME PROJECTS. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          AND, AND I THINK IT'S STILL STILL REALLY GREAT 
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THAT WE'RE 11% ABOVE OUR, OUR GOAL AND NOT EVEN WELL ABOVE OUR POLICY. 
          25% POLICY IS 25%. 
          THERE WAS AN ADOPTED GOAL OVER 30%. 
          JUST SECOND ONE THING, ESPECIALLY AS LOOKING AT THE FUND BALANCES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NEVER GONNA PROPOSE OR ADOPT A BUDGET THAT HASN'T, THAT OUR OPERATING COSTS AREN'T COMPLETELY COVERED IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO WHENEVER YOU SEE A DRAW DOWN IN THE FUND BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND, IT'S FOR ONE TIME CAPITAL COST MOVING OVER TO SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND. 
          SO WE'RE NEVER GONNA BE DRAWING DOWN BECAUSE OF OPERATING COSTS. 
          30% STARTED FUND, UM, I BELIEVE THE POLICY WAS 2015, MAYBE. 
          I'D HAVE TO GO CHECK, BUT IT WAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 2015 LAST GENERATION. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, GOING FORWARD TO GENERAL FUND GRANT EXPENDITURES, SO, UH, THE COUNCIL DID GET SOME PRESENTATIONS FROM SOME OF OUR NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING. 
          UH, WE HAVE METRO PRESS SERVICES IS GOING TO PRESENT AT THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. 
          UM, SO WHAT WE'VE LISTED HERE IS WHAT WAS REQUESTED, UH, OF THOSE, UH, FROM THOSE ENTITIES, UH, WHAT'S IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, AND THIS IS WHAT OUR PRACTICE HAS BEEN YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          THIS IS WHAT WAS APPROVED IN THE FISCAL YEAR, THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR BUDGET. 
          SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE BUDGETED, UH, IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET HAS WHAT WAS APPROVED IN THE PRIOR YEAR. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THEY DO THEIR PRESENTATIONS, THEY DID SOME OF THEM RIGHT BEFORE THE PROPOSED BUDGET CAME OUT. 
          AND WE HAVE ONE THAT'S GOING AFTER THE PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          NOW COUNCIL HAS CHANGED THESE AMOUNTS BASED ON THOSE, THOSE, UH, REQUESTS AT THEIR, UM, AS THEY WANT TO. 
          BUT WHAT'S IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS JUST WHAT GOT APPROVED LAST YEAR. 
          SO IT'S REALLY UP TO COUNCIL YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THE FUNDING FOR, FOR ANY OF THESE, UH, IN PARTICULAR, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED, METRO PRESS SERVICE IS GONNA BE HERE NEXT TUESDAY TO DO THEIR PRESENTATION. 
          BUT A DALLAS CAT LADY, I REQUESTED 5,000, UH, BUDGET HAS 5,000 THAT SHE WAS PREVIOUSLY AWARDED. 
          UH, DALLAS COUNTY, UH, MHMR FOR METRO CARE SERVICES. 
          I ASKED FOR 17,000. 
          PROPOSED BUDGET HAS 2,500, THAT IS WHAT THEY WERE AWARDED IN THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR. 
          AND THEN METRO PRESS SERVICES $162,721 AND THEY'RE GONNA GO OVER THAT IN, UH, SOME PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD DETAIL. 
          THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, UH, WHAT WAS AWARDED TO THEM THE PRIOR YEAR AND WHAT'S IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET? UH, 1 3 9 653. 
          AND THEN WHAT WOULD HEALTH CLINIC, UH, HAS REQUESTED 10,000, UH, AND WHAT'S, UH, PREVIOUSLY BEEN AWARDED TO THEM AND WHAT'S IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS SIX FIVE. 
          ARE THERE ANY OF THESE THAT YOU ALL WANNA DISCUSS RIGHT NOW? AS FAR AS THE AMOUNTS, NOT ME. 
          IS THE A HUNDRED AND THIRTY NINE SIX FIFTY THREE WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED AND SO THAT'S IN THE BUDGET, BUT WHEN WE MEET WITH 'EM, IT COULD THAT CHANGE? ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          QUESTIONS. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE COULD ANY OF THESE, WE NEED TO GET SOME CLARITY ON SOME OF THESE TONIGHT? IF, IF THERE, IF WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE ANY CHANGES ON ANY OF THESE, IF THERE NOT TONIGHT TO BE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION FOR ME, IF THERE WERE ANY CHANGE, IT WOULD BE, UM, THE ONE WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM METRO RONNIE, WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM DALLAS CAT LADY AND, UM, METRO, I FEEL THE SAME WAY. 
          EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH, WITH THE OTHERS THOUGH. 
          MM-HMM, . 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SO WE'RE GONNA GET INTO SOME TAX RATE, UM, INFORMATION GOING FORWARD. 
          SO JUST, UH, SOME DEFINITIONS ON THE TAX RATE. 
          SO THERE'S TWO PORTIONS OF THE TAX RATE. 
          THERE'S THE M AND O SIDE, WHICH IS MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION. 
          SO FOR ADDISON, THAT FUND GENERAL FUND, UH, AND THEN THE TOWN HAS A, HAS GOTTEN SUBORDINATES TO CREATE A INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND. 
          SO ABOUT 0.6 OF A PENNY GOES INTO THAT FUND. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND AND ABOUT 2.3 PENNIES, UH, OF THAT  TAX RATE TO GO INTO THOSE FUNDS. 
          UM, SO THE HAVE NO TAX RATE FUNDS, THOSE THREE DIFFERENT FUNDS. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE OUR INS OR OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY FIXED BY THE AMOUNT OF DEBT SERVICE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE IN THE NEXT YEAR, REALLY DIVIDED DOWN OUR VALUES AND THAT DETERMINES WHAT THAT PROPERTY TAX RATE NEEDS TO BE SET UP. 
          AND THEN THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. 
          SO THIS IS THE RATE THAT WOULD BASICALLY PROVIDE US THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE FROM THE SAME PROPERTIES IN THE PRIOR YEAR. 
          SO REALLY YOU WOULD ONLY SEE REVENUE GROWTH IF YOU HAD NEW PROPERTIES ADDED IN YOUR TAX ROLL. 
          UM, SO IF VALUES GO UP THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE GOES DOWN AND VICE VERSA, UH, THEN WE HAVE THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE. 
          SO THIS IS THE MAXIMUM RATE THAT THE COUNCIL COULD ADOPT WITHOUT TRIGGERING AN AUTOMATIC ELECTION. 
          AND PART OF THE REASON WHY THE TOWN STARTED HAVING THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS, UH, SO EARLY AFTER YOU 
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RECEIVED THE BUDGET IS BECAUSE IN ORDER TO BEAT THE DEADLINES FOR THAT IS IF COUNCIL DID EVER WANT TO DO THAT, THAT, UM, YOU HAVE TO CALL THAT ELECTION VERY QUICKLY AFTER YOU RECEIVE THE BUDGET. 
          SO, UM, PROPOSED BUDGET IS NOT INCLUDE A TAX RATE THAT'S AT RATE. 
          SO, UM, BUT THAT IS THE RATE, BASICALLY YOUR DEBT SERVICE RATE, AND YOU CAN GENERATE 3.5% OR MORE, UH, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX PRIOR. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THAT OVER APPROVAL RATE ENDS UP BEING. 
          CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT SCREEN? SO YOU HAVE THE M AND O AND THE INS, RIGHT? AND THE, THE AIL ALARM FUNDS BOTH OF THOSE, IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          SO IT COME, IT, IT, IT COMES IN AND THEN GETS DISPERSED TO THOSE MULTIPLE FUNDS AND, AND, AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY FUNDS THAT ARE FUNDED BY THE AVALAR, RIGHT? SO THE GENERAL, WELL, SO THEY SEND IT TO US REALLY IN TWO, TWO BATCHES. 
          THAT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT QUESTION. 
          THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, WHICH SINCE WE HAVE KIND OF OUR OWN FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE SPLIT THOSE INTERNALLY. 
          UH, BUT THE INS PORTION, THEY TELL US THAT AMOUNT. 
          IS ANYONE DELINQUENT ON TAXES? HOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? UM, WILL WE, I AM ASSUMING WE GET NOTIFIED THAT IT'S DELINQUENT AND, AND IF THEY PAY THEN WE GET PAID OR, SO I MEAN THE, THE TAX OFFICE, THE DALLAS COUNTY TAX OFFICE DOES COLLECTIONS FOR US. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, A COLLECTIONS COMPANY, WHICH ATTORNEY THAT DOES THE DELINQUENT COLLECTIONS FOR US AS WELL. 
          UM, SO REALLY THEY, I THINK I HAVE A MEETING WITH THE COLLECTIONS COMPANY ONCE A YEAR. 
          THEY GO  WITH US, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, UM, YOU KNOW, ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR PROPERTY TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE NOT, NOT A LOT THAT DON'T PAY OR DON'T PAY ON TIME. 
          WE DO GET SOME PENALTIES OF INTEREST. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR THAT. 
          SO IF THEY DO PAY AFTER JANUARY 31ST, UH, THEY'VE BEEN INCUR PENALTIES OF INTEREST. 
          THOSE ARE STATUTORY. 
          SO WE DON'T GET TO SET THOSE, WE DON'T GET TO WAIVE THOSE OR ANYTHING. 
          SO THERE'S STATUTORY, UM, REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SAY IN THAT, IN THAT PER SE. 
          UM, BUT OTHER THAN WE GET THE REPORTING AND, AND GET THE MONEY AND WORK WITH THEM ON SETTING THE TAX RATE. 
          I MEAN, UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, SO WE DON'T HAVE LIKE A, A SIGNIFICANT NOTICEABLE, UM, OUTSTANDING COLLECTED PROPERTY TAX BALANCE? WE DO NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK, UM, FOR THE 20 YEAR TERM, I THINK WE HAVE MAYBE A MILLION DOLLARS  20 YEARS. 
          WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE LEVY FOR JUST THIS YEAR IS ALMOST 3 MILLION. 
          UM, SO IT'S, AND IT'S USUALLY, MOST OF IT IS FROM, FROM ONE YEAR PRIOR. 
          UM, SO, UH, AND GETTING INTO OUR TAX RATES. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT FISCAL YEAR 2024, AND WE HAVE THOSE NO NEW REVENUE VOTER APPROVAL AND THE ADOPTED RATES. 
          UH, SO LAST YEAR THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS 56.2728. 
          UH, THIS YEAR IT'S ABOUT 58.9261. 
          SO THAT, THAT NOTING REVENUE RATE WAS ABOUT TWO, 2.6, 2.70 CENTS HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR. 
          UH, THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS ACTUALLY ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME. 
          IT'S ABOUT A QUARTER OF A PENNY LESS THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR. 
          UH, BUT THE ADOPTED RATE AND THE, THOSE RATE FOR THE, UH, FISCAL 2025, THIS PROPOSED TO REMAIN THE SAME AT 60.9822. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE IT IS, UH, ABOUT 2.42, 2.3 2.40 CENTS BELOW AT THAT MAXIMUM OF, UH, AND THEN AGAIN, OUR PROPERTY TAXPAYER, UH, DISTRIBUTION, THIS IS JUST A, A PIE VIEW OF THAT, A COMMERCIAL 69%, UH, RESIDENTIAL 60% OF THAT BUSINESS PERSON PROPERTY, WHICH IS ALSO COMMERCIAL. 
          AND THEN OF OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND REVENUE, WE HAVE ABOUT 50.25 MILLION IN REVENUE. 
          BUT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX GENERATES ABOUT 8% OF THAT REVENUE. 
          WE LOOK AT OUR TOTAL $50 MILLION IN REVENUE, UH, THAT'S COMING INTO THE GENERAL FUND ABOUT, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT, I GUESS 4 MILLION IS BEING GENERATED BY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX. 
          THE OTHER 92% IS COMING FROM, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAX OR SALES TAXES AND OTHER FEES AND, AND THAT TYPE OF THING. 
          AND THEN THIS IS A 10 YEAR VIEW OF THE TOTAL TAX RATE THAT YOU ARE AT IN RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES YOU PAY. 
          UH, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, UH, LAST YEAR AND I THINK THERE WAS A PROPOSITION FOR THIS 
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IN NOVEMBER, 2023 ELECTION, UH, RELATED TO, UH, SCHOOL PROPERTY TAXES AND HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS AND, AND A REDUCTION IN THAT TAX RATES. 
          SO THE BIG CHANGE FROM 2023 TO 2024 IS REALLY THE SCHOOL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TAX WENT DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY. 
          AND THAT WAS REALLY DRIVEN BY THE, AT THE STATE LEVEL. 
          UM, THEY ALSO INCREASED THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FOR SCHOOLS. 
          UM, SO THAT TOTAL TAX RATE, WHICH YOU KNOW, FOR MOST OF THE PREVIOUS 10 YEARS HAD BEEN ABOUT TWO AND A HALF DOLLARS OF 2.5. 
          UM, REALLY CAME DOWN TO, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 2.16, 2.17. 
          SO A PRETTY BIG REDUCTION OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          MOST OF THAT HAS BEEN RELATED TO THE SCHOOL AND REALLY, UH, ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE STATE LEVEL, UH, WHAT WE SHOW FOR 2025 BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATED TAX RATES FOR THOSE OTHER ENTITIES. 
          AND WE'RE PROPOSING THE SAME RATE AS WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR IS THAT, THAT 2025, UH, TAX RATE IS SHOWN AS BEING, UH, THE SAME TAX RAISE AS WE HAD. 
          OKAY. 
          STEVEN, REAL QUICK ON THAT LAST SLIDE, CAN YOU HELP ME WITH DALLAS COUNTY SCHOOLS? YES. 
          IS THAT NEW? NO, THAT IS ACTUALLY GONE. 
          UM, SO IT DOESN'T GENERATE IT, DOESN'T IT SHOW UP ON THE GRAPH? 'CAUSE IT WAS ONE PENNY FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND IT DIDN'T POPULATE ON THERE, BUT THAT WAS THE DALLAS COUNTY SCHOOLS WAS THE ORGANIZATION THAT WAS DOING THE BUS SERVICE THROUGHOUT, UM, DALLAS COUNTY. 
          UM, SO IT WAS AN ORGANIZATION THAT I THINK HAD A ONE SET TAX RATE. 
          IT IS GONE NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND NOW IT'S NOT GENERATING ANY TAX, BUT IT WAS, UM, AND, AND WAS THERE ANOTHER TAX ENTITY KIND OF LIKE THAT REAL SMALL OR IS THAT, AM I THINKING OF DALLAS COUNTY SCHOOLS? I THINK YOU'RE THINKING OF DALLAS COUNTY SCHOOLS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, BUT THAT DOESN'T POPULATE SOME OF THOSE PAST YEARS WHEN IT STILL EXISTED. 
          IT WAS ONE, IT WAS ONE 70 I PLAYED, I PLAYED SLIDE, I PLAYED WITH IT. 
          I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T EVEN FIND IT ON HERE, IS IN THERE SOMEWHERE. 
          I COULD NOT GET THE COLOR OF POP TO POP IN THE SLIDE, BUT IT WAS 1 CENTS. 
          UM, OF THAT $2 AND 50 APPROXIMATELY IN 20 24, 20 25 WAS HERE. 
          UH, SO GOING ON, AND THIS IS OUR LONG TERM FINANCIAL PLAN FOR THE GENERAL FUND. 
          UM, SO WE DO HAVE SOME ASSUMPTIONS FOR 2026 AND BEYOND IN THERE. 
          SO WHAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IS A THREE PER 3.5% INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAX. 
          UM, THAT WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF NEW PROPERTY, EXISTING PROPERTY, UM, 2% INCREASES IN SALES AND ITS BEVERAGE TAXES, UH, THROUGH ABOUT 2029. 
          AND THEN ABOUT 2.5% OF THE ANTICIPATION WAS THAT MAYBE THE TOD COMES ON AND WE SEE SOME ADDITIONAL SALES TAX, UH, THERE. 
          UM, ON THE PERSONNEL SIDE, WE HAVE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE SALARIES, 5% INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE, AND THEN, UH, 1% INCREASES IN OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES, UH, FOR EACH YEAR. 
          SO, UH, WHAT I FIND MOST INTERESTING ABOUT THIS, SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE TWO, UH, THE CAST POSITION TARGET AND THE OPERATING THRESHOLD. 
          SO THAT, THAT RED DOTTED LINE IS YOUR 25% REQUIRED FUND BALANCE. 
          UH, THE BLACK DOTTED LINE IS YOUR 30% GOAL FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND THAT SOLID BLACK LINE IS OUR ACTUAL FUND BALANCE. 
          SO, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THAT ACTUAL FUND BALANCE IS STAYING MOSTLY FLAT OVER THE 10 YEAR TERM. 
          UM, AS EXPENDITURES GO UP A LITTLE BIT, THOSE THRESHOLDS GO UP, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE STILL GENERATING MORE A SLIGHTLY MORE REVENUE THAN EXPENDITURE, UM, VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY THIS LONG TERM FINANCIALS . 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? ANY GENERAL FUN QUESTIONS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT, I MEAN, THAT LOOKS VERY COMFORTING. 
          NICE AND STABLE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING ON TO THE HOTEL FUND. 
          SO, UM, HOTEL FUND, YOU KNOW, IS ABBY KIND OF WENT THROUGH HER BUDGET YESTERDAY. 
          YOU SAW SOME PROCEEDS FROM SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          SHE'S ANTICIPATING SOME INCREASED REVENUE FROM THAT. 
          WE HAVE SOME INCREASED REVENUE, UH, HOTEL TAXES RELATED TO THE CREATION OF THE TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. 
          AND THEN ALSO IN THAT INTEREST IN OTHER EARNINGS, WE HAVE SOME ANTICIPATED INCREASE, UH, REVENUE RELATED TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES THAT THAT, UH, TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WOULD PAY THE TOWN. 
          AND THEN RENTAL INCOME, SOME INCREASE RELATED TO, UH, THE, THE, THE REUSE OF THE FACILITY AND REIMAGINATION OF THE FACILITY, THE HIRING OF A THEATER MANAGER. 
          AND THEN HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE YEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, UH, EVEN MORE. 
          BUT, UM, ABOUT $7.4 MILLION IN REVENUE AND ON THE EXPENDITURE SIZE WE'RE AT ABOUT 7,546,000. 
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UM, WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR ACTUAL NUMBERS FOR 2023, WE ACTUALLY BUDGETED A SLIGHT DRAW DOWN IN FUND BALANCE THAT YEAR. 
          BUT THE ACTUAL RESULTS WERE THAT WE WERE ABOUT 600, $700,000 TO POSITIVES. 
          WE ACTUALLY FAR BETTER THAN THAN THE BUDGET WAS. 
          UM, WHAT WE DID IN 2024 IS WE KIND OF OF LOOKED A LITTLE BIT HARDER AT SOME MORE LINE ITEMS WITHIN THE HOTEL FUND BUDGET. 
          UM, AND WE'VE CONTINUED TO DO THAT. 
          SO ALTHOUGH THERE IS A SLIGHT DEFICIT REVENUE TO EXPENDITURE, WHEN I GET TO THE LONG TERM PLAN ON THIS ONE, I'LL KIND OF EXPLAIN WHY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT GOING. 
          YES. 
          COULD YOU, UM, KIND OF DISTINGUISH A LITTLE BIT WHAT IS IN MAJOR SPECIAL EVENTS AND SPECIAL EVENTS OPERATIONS? YES, I SHOULD EXPLAIN THIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO WE CHANGED THE, THE TITLES UP UNDER THE EXPENDITURES AND, BUT THEY USED TO BE MORE, MORE CONFUSING. 
          I THINK WE SIMPLIFIED A LITTLE BIT , BUT, UM, MAJOR SPECIAL EVENTS IS REALLY THE COST TO OPT TO, TO DO THE THREE MAJOR SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          SO IT'S KABOOM TOWN TASTE AND OCTOBER FEST SPECIAL EVENTS OPERATIONS IS THE DEPARTMENT. 
          OH, SO THAT'S REALLY THE PEOPLE AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT IT'S NOT THE EVENT. 
          THE EVENT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, SO WHEN YOU SEE THOSE, UM, THOSE NET INVESTMENT FOR EVENT, IT'S REALLY THOSE THREE EVENTS TIED TO THAT AMOUNT FOR THE MAJOR SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO SEPARATED THE VITRUVIAN EVENTS OUT AND SHOW THOSE SEPARATELY. 
          'CAUSE THOSE AREN'T COUNTER ON, BUT WE AREN'T CONTRIBUTING TO THOSE. 
          SO WE TOOK THAT FROM WHAT USED TO BE IN THE SPECIAL EVENTS BUDGET TO SHOW THAT. 
          SO DOES OPERATIONS INCLUDE SALARIES OR IS THAT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND? NO, THAT IS INCLUDED IN SPECIAL DEFENSE OPERATIONS. 
          UH, AND THAT BY TRUVIA, I HAVEN'T NEVER FOCUSED ON IT BEFORE THAT BY TRUVIA, DO WE JUST HAND THAT MONEY OVER TO THEM? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN LOOKING AT OUR FORECAST, SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY WAS THAT THE HOTEL FUND AND WITH THAT TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, UH, WHEN YOU START ONE OF THOSE THAT THE HOTEL YOUR ASSOCIATION ANTICIPATES THAT, UM, EVERY DOLLAR GENERATED BY THAT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WILL GENERATE ABOUT $7 TO OUR HOTELS. 
          SO USING THAT, UM, FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026, BECAUSE WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THAT BEING IN, IN FULL SWING, UM, I ANTICIPATE ABOUT A 5% INCREASE JUST FROM US HAVING THAT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. 
          UM, NOT 7%, LIKE THE HOTEL ASSOCIATION ESTIMATES ABOUT 5%. 
          SO STILL PROBABLY PRETTY CONSERVATIVE, UH, ABOUT ABOUT 1% JUST GENERAL GROWTH IN THE HOTEL TAX SPACE. 
          BUT THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A 6% INCREASE IN HOTEL TAX FOR 2026. 
          IT'S REALLY THAT FROM THAT TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. 
          UM, AND THEN EACH YEAR AFTER THAT, ABOUT 1.5% JUST ANTICIPATED RATES, UH, TO, TO INCREASE OVER TIME. 
          UH, IT ALSO INCLUDES ABOUT 2% INCREASE IN SPECIAL EVENTS IN RENTAL INCOME, UH, EACH YEAR. 
          UM, AND AS I MENTIONED WITH THE THEATER MANAGER POSITION, THE RE-IMAGINATION OF THE THEATER THAT MAY GENERATE MORE REVENUE THAN, THAN WHAT'S ANTICIPATED HERE. 
          BUT, UH, NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION TO, TO PLUG THAT IN YET. 
          UH, AND THEN WHAT YOU'LL SEE WITH ALL THE FUNDS, THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE IN SALARIES, 5% INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE, UH, AND THEN 1% INCREASE IN THE OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          SO AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, OUR 25% THRESHOLD, UH, THAT RED DOTTED LINE, UH, AND THEN YOU LOOK AT OUR ACTUAL CASH POSITION, UH, OVER TIME THAT WE'RE STILL IN A A VERY STRONG POSITION, IT REALLY MAINTAINS ABOUT 5 MILLION IN CASH, WHICH IS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOTEL FUND? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          GOING ON TO THE AIRPORT FUND. 
          THE AIRPORT FUND LOOKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THIS YEAR. 
          AND THE MAIN REASON IS, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE, UH, THERE'S A BIG NUMBER THERE ABOUT 2.7 MILLION. 
          SO THE AIRPORT IS ANTICIPATING GETTING SOME FUNDING AND HAS BEEN AWARDED SOME FUNDING FROM THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW. 
          UM, SO THAT IS INCORPORATED IN THERE AND THERE'S SOME CAPITAL PROJECTS LISTED ON THE NEXT PAGE. 
          SO, UH, SOME EXPENSES THAT THAT IS GOING TO, BUT AGAIN, THERE ARE, UH, OTHER REVENUE, THERE'S SOME SERVICE FEES THAT I KNOW IN JOEL'S PRESENTATION HE WENT OVER SOME CHANGES TO THOSE SERVICE FEES, UH, THAT ARE, THEY'RE PROPOSED AND THOSE ARE INCORPORATED HERE. 
          UM, AND THEN RENTAL INCOME, THAT'S REALLY BASED ON, UH, WHAT, WHAT BILL DYER AND, UH, 
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HIS TEAM ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE US RELATED TO THAT. 
          AND THEN WE, OUR INTEREST IN OTHER INCOME, YOU SEE THOSE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT, YOU SEE SOME THAT ESTIMATES OR, YOU KNOW, PRIOR YEARS ARE FLUCTUATE QUITE, QUITE A LOT AND A LOT OF THAT IT'S NOT JUST INTEREST INCOME. 
          SO A LOT OF THAT IS INSURANCE PROCEEDS AND WE'VE HAD STORMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE'VE GOTTEN SOME SIGNIFICANT INSURANCE PROCEEDS AT THE AIRPORT. 
          SO WHEN YOU SEE A, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BUDGETING JUST FOR THE INTEREST INCOME, BUT IN REALITY IT SEEMS LIKE EACH YEAR WE'VE HAD SOME TYPE OF EVENT WHERE WE'VE GOT INTEREST, BUT WE'VE ALSO GOTTEN A LOT OF INSURANCE PROCEEDS, UH, FROM SOMETHING ELSE. 
          SO OVERALL ABOUT TWO, UH, 10,280,000 IN REVENUE. 
          UH, THEN GOING DOWN TO OUR OPERATING BUDGET, THERE'S ABOUT 6,338,000, UH, BUDGET THERE FOR OPERATIONS. 
          WE HAVE OUR TRANSFER TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND AND THAT'S TO, UH, UH, FOR THE AIRPORT TO FUND SOME DEBT THAT WAS ISSUED BACK IN 2012, UH, FOR THE AIRPORT. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE ALL OF OUR CASH FUNDED CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THAT, UH, BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW, UH, MONEY, SOME OF THAT'S, UH, BEING ALLOCATED THERE TO THE EAST SIDE AIRPORT SERVICE CONSTRUCTION AND SOME OF IT'S THERE FOR THE AIRPORT, UH, FUEL STORAGE EXPANSION PROJECT. 
          UH, SO IN TOTAL THAT MAKES THOSE EXPENSES. 
          UM, 11,222,000. 
          UH, SO A SLIGHT DRAW DOWN IN WORKING CAPITAL, BUT OVERALL, UH, 7,231,000 IS ANTICIPATED THERE AND END OF NEAR CASH. 
          SO STILL ABOUT 114%, UH, OPERATING SERVICE. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR AIRPORT, LONG TERM FINANCIAL PLAN, UH, SO AGAIN, THE LEASE REVENUE IS, UH, BASED ON ESTIMATES FROM AIRPORT STAFF AND ANTICIPATED REDEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, LIKE THE OTHER FUNDS, WE HAVE 3.5% INCREASES IN SALARIES AND HEALTH INSURANCE. 
          UH, 2% INCREASES IN OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE PROGRAMMED IN, THERE IS A BOND ISSUANCE IN 2025 FOR THE FUEL FARM EXPANSION. 
          UM, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, THERE'S A CURRENT DEBT SERVICE, WHICH IS A, UM, KIND OF A DARK BLUE UP AT THE TOP OR A LIGHTER BLUE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE PROPOSED DEBT SERVICE, UH, WHICH IS, UM, KIND OF A, A, A DIFFERENT SHADE OF BLUES. 
          SO THOSE TWO, THAT SERVICE. 
          SO, UH, AS JOEL KIND OF MENTIONED WHEN HE DID HIS PRESENTATION, IF IF THERE'S SOME, UM, EFFICIENCIES MADE ON THAT PROJECT AND THAT SCOPE IS, IS BROUGHT IN A LITTLE BIT AND THE COST IS LOWER, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO ISSUE, UH, THAT MUCH DEBT, UM, FUTURE. 
          SO, UH, ANYWAY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL FUND AND THE CASH POSITION OF THIS FUND, UH, AGAIN, THAT RED DOTTED LINE IS OUR 25%, UH, REQUIRED RESERVE. 
          UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL CASH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING QUITE WELL. 
          SO, UH, I THINK IT GETS UP TO AROUND SOMEWHERE BETWEEN SEVEN AND 8 MILLION THROUGHOUT LONG THEY'RE IN REALLY GOOD POSITION. 
          AND THEN GOING INTO OUR STORM WATER FUND. 
          SO, UM, NO RATE INCREASES OR PROPOSED FOR THIS BUDGET AND THE STORM WATER FUND, SO IT GETS ITS REVENUE FROM THE STORM WATER FEE, $2.6 MILLION, AND THEN INTEREST, UH, REVENUE OF ABOUT 200,000. 
          SO OVERALL $2.8 MILLION IN REVENUE. 
          AND THEN WE GET TO OUR OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          UH, THE CHANGE HERE THERE WAS THAT SHANNON WENT THROUGH A CONSTRUCTION INSPECTOR, UH, POSITION. 
          UM, IT'S ADDED TO THAT PERSONNEL THERE. 
          UM, AND THEN THE CHANGE HERE IS ALSO THE DEBT SERVICE. 
          SO WE ARE, UH, PROPOSING TO ISSUE $5.3 MILLION IN DEBT. 
          UM, NOW THAT HOPEFULLY INTEREST RATES HAVE COME DOWN QUITE A BIT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, SO THAT NUMBER SHOULD BE LESS. 
          BUT WHAT WE HAVE IN THERE RIGHT NOW IS OUR TOTAL OPERATING EXPENSE JUST UNDER $2.8 MILLION. 
          AND THEN THIS FUND ALSO TRANSFERS, UH, FUNDS TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, UH, TO, UH, REIMBURSE FOR, UH, ROAD RECONSTRUCTIONS THAT INCLUDED, UH, SCHOOL GRADE PROJECTS. 
          AND THEN WE'VE GOT SOME  DECISION PACKAGES, OVERALL EXPENSES, ABOUT $3.3 MILLION, WHICH BRINGS THE FUND BALANCE DOWN, UH, TO 7.3 MILLION. 
          AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE LONG TERM PLAN, AND I THINK THIS, UM, MAY ANSWER A LOT OF QUESTIONS WHEN WE DISCUSS THE DEBT ISSUANCE FROM THE PRIOR MEETING. 
          SO CAN YOU LOOK AT THE LONG TERM PLAN OVER THE, OVER THE 10 YEARS? UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE DID CASH FLOW, THOSE COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, RIGHT, IT WOULD JUST DROP THAT, THAT BLACK LINE DOWN IN ONE YEAR AND IT WOULD BE MORE STEADY. 
          IT WOULD NOT GO DOWN AS QUICKLY. 
          UH, BUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS ISSUE THAT DEBT, WHICH WILL GENERATE MORE REVENUE FOR US, UM, BECAUSE WE'LL KEEP OUR OPERATING RESERVES INTACT, BUT WE'LL SORT SOME MONEY ON THE BOND PROCEEDS. 
          SO REALLY WHAT THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS ON THE OUT YEARS IS THAT OUR DEBT SERVICE IS NOW HIGHER. 
          SO WE'RE HAVING A GRADUAL DRAW DOWN OF OUR WORKING CAPITAL. 
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AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO 2034, WE HAVE SOME DEBT THAT FALLS OFF. 
          SO NOW OUR OPERATING REVENUES ARE BACK TO EXCEEDING OUR, UH, EXPENSES. 
          UM, SO IT SHOULD BE FAIRLY FLAT GOING FORWARD AND WE WANNA FOLLOW IT THAT WAY. 
          UH, WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS MODEL IS FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, NO PROPOSED STORM WATER INCREASES. 
          WHAT'S IN THERE AFTER, UH, BEGINNING IN 2029 IS ABOUT A 3% INCREASE EACH YEAR. 
          AND AS OF THE OTHER FUNDS, 3.5% INCREASE IN SALARIES, 5% INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE, UH, 1% INCREASE IN OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT IT BRINGS THAT, THAT VERY LARGE FUND BALANCE THAT THIS FUND HAD ACCUMULATED, UM, OVER ITS FIRST 10 YEARS OF EXISTENCE. 
          THAT BRINGS IT DOWN TO, UH, A LEVEL THAT, UM, I WHAT, ONE MORE TIME? WHAT'S, WHAT'S, CAN YOU POINT OUT WHAT'S BRINGING THAT DOWN? SO THE PROPOSED DEBT SERVICE, UH, WHICH WOULD BE PRIMARILY THAT, THAT, UH, THAT SECOND, UH, LEVEL ON, ON THE, UM, ON THE AREA CHART IN THE BACK, THE LIGHTER BLUE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF WE DIDN'T SELL THE BONDS, THAT WOULD NOT BE THERE AND THEN WE WOULD JUST SEE A $5.3 MILLION REDUCTION IN THE CASH IN, IN ONE FISCAL YEAR. 
          ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, AND THEN GOING ON TO THE UTILITY. 
          SO I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WAY BACK ON THE AIRPORT FUND. 
          'CAUSE WE DIDN'T STOP THERE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          SO WHY, WHY ARE WE KEEPING SUCH A HIGH BALANCE IN THAT FUND FOR A RAINY DAY? WELL, AND, AND THIS FUND IS, THEY DON'T HAVE AS MANY, YOU KNOW, AS MANY EXPENSE. 
          SO I MEAN, THEY'RE GETTING A GOOD RETURN ON, ON THE PROPERTY OUT THERE. 
          AND, UM, YEAH. 
          DAVID, DO YOU WANT TO JUMP IN ON THAT? ? UH, I, I, I THINK, OH, I AND JOEL CERTAINLY CAN, CAN I DO THIS? YOU KNOW, AIRPORT FUNDS JUST DOING REALLY WELL RIGHT NOW. 
          AND I THINK, UM, I THINK IF YOU LOOK BACK IN THE PAST, IT TOOK A WHILE TO GET TO THIS POINT WHERE IT'S DOING SO WELL. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IN FUTURE YEARS AS WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT WE DO WITH THAT, HOW, HOW WE, I THINK THOSE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US. 
          UM, BUT IT'S A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE. 
          UH, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE'RE COGNIZANT OF AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET IS THAT IT'S DOING SO WELL. 
          WE'VE BUILT UP THIS FUND BALANCE. 
          UM, NOW I, I DON'T THINK THAT CHANGES SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT OUR, OUR REP, THE CHARGES THAT WE HAVE ARE EQUITABLE AND THAT WE'RE, WE'RE COVERING OUR COSTS WERE APPROPRIATE AS WE DISCUSSED IN JOEL'S PRESENTATION. 
          BUT IT IS, IT IS THE TRUTH THAT WE DO HAVE A, A LARGE FUND BALANCE. 
          NOW, I WILL SAY THIS ISN'T LIKE A LARGE FUND BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND, YOUR OTHER ONES WHERE IT'S MORE, WHERE IT'S EASIER TO SAY, WE'RE GONNA PULL THIS AND PUT IT TO OTHER USES, OR WE'RE JUST GONNA LOWER THE TAX RATE. 
          IT'S JUST NOT THAT SIMPLE. 
          THE AIRPORT FUND IS JUST DIFFERENT, SO IT'S NOT AS KIND OF MALLEABLE, BUT UM, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE, BUT IT IST ESPECIALLY FOR THE FUTURE OF HOW, HOW DO WE WANT TO USE THESE FUNDS? I'D LIKE TO SEE A HISTORY ON IT ALSO GOING BACK TO CEASE BECAUSE, UH, THE HISTORY IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THINGS BASED ON THAT HISTORY. 
          OKAY, YEAH. 
          AS FAR AS THE PREVIOUS BALANCES FROM THE SAME CHART GOING BACKWARDS, SO, WELL, THERE WAS A POINT, AND PART OF THE REASON THAT IN 2012, UH, THE CITY WENT OUT AND DID A GENERAL OBLIGATION ON COLLECTION FOR AIRPORT LAND WAS BECAUSE THE AIRPORT, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY, ANY FUNDS TO KIND OF DO THAT. 
          SO WHAT WE DID A FEW YEARS AGO IS WE STARTED HAVING THEM SERVICE THAT DEBT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DOING SO WELL. 
          UM, BUT TO YOUR POINT, THERE IS STILL, IT'S DOING VERY WELL. 
          I THINK IT'S A GREAT SUCCESS STORY. 
          AND, AND STEVEN, ON THIS, UH, THIS FUEL FORM, ARE WE GONNA USE SOME CASH? YEAH, SO SOME OF THAT IS, IS BASICALLY WE'RE USING CASH AND BEING REIMBURSED BY THAT BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW. 
          THERE IS SOME CASH THAT WE ARE USING, UM, BECAUSE THAT THERE'S A LIMIT ON THAT AMOUNT. 
          UM, SO YES, THERE IS A, A CASH ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND BUT I THOUGHT YOU SAY EARLIER THAT WE WERE, WE MIGHT TAKE SOME BONDS LIKE A YEAR FROM NOW OR SO. 
          YEAH, SO THERE, THERE IS, BECAUSE THIS WAS, THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, JOEL DID HIS PRESENTATION ABOUT OVER A $14 MILLION PROJECT, RIGHT? SO THERE IS SOME PORTION THAT IS BEING, UH, ON FINANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT OR THE, THE CASH PORTION IF ANY. 
          ARE WE, DID WE HAVE WE GOT THOUGHTS ON USING SOME CASH? YES. 
          THAT, YEAH. 
          SO SOME OF THAT, AND WE ARE USING SOME CASH FOR REALLY ALL OF THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE CURRENT YEAR. 
          AND 
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WITHIN THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THERE IS THE ANTICIPATION CAN USE SOME CASH AS WELL. 
          UM, BUT FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU LOOK AT, WE'RE GETTING $2.7 MILLION REALLY FROM GRANTS, UM, INTERGOVERNMENTAL, BUT WE'RE SPENDING FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, TAKE THIS OVER $3 MILLION OR $8 MILLION OF CAPITAL. 
          WE ARE USING CASH FOR THE, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          UM, NOW THIS FUEL FARM IS A MULTIYEAR PROJECTS AND THERE IS  THAT IT'S CASH AND NOT BEING REIMBURSED FOR EVERYTHING BUT FOR CASH FUNDING. 
          UM, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? UH, YEAH, A LITTLE BIT. 
          I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG, IT IS KIND OF A GENERAL THOUGHT ON SOME OF THESE FUNDS. 
          IT JUST, I SEE US TAKING DEBT AND UM, A BIG HUGE RESERVES. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH, RIGHT? WE'RE WE'RE TAKING DEBT, WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO WANTING TO KEEP, UH, REALLY HEALTHY, UH, RESERVE BALANCES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I MEAN THIS IS ONE THAT I THINK THERE CERTAINLY LOOKING AT REFINING THE SCOPE OF IT AND MAYBE THE COST, THE COST HAS COME DOWN, THEN UM, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD INCREASE CASH AND IN THOSE RESERVES WE'RE, WE'RE INVESTING THAT A LOT OF THAT MONEY, RIGHT? THEY ARE. 
          SO, AND YOU SEE THAT INTEREST, THE AMOUNT THAT'S BUDGETED IS ALL FOR THE INTEREST. 
          SO RIGHT. 
          WE ARE EARNING INTEREST RIGHT NOW THE INTEREST RATE FOR EARNING IS BASICALLY THE INTEREST RATE THAT WE PAY EVERY ABOUT EQUAL. 
          OKAY, I LIKE THAT. 
          SO ON THE, ON THE MODEL THAT YOU HAVE, THE FUND FUND FORECAST, IT IS, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN? YES. 
          YES IT DOES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN, SO BECAUSE WE, THIS IS A 10 YEAR MODEL, SO REALLY FOR ALL OF THESE FUNDS, UM, THAT HAVE BETTER UTILITY FUND OR THE STORM WATER FUND OR THE AIRPORT FUND THAT REALLY FUND THEIR OWN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND THEIR OWN DEBT SERVICE, UM, WHAT'S, WHAT'S OUT HERE IS THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, WHICH IS THE LIGHT GREEN. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THAT BIG SPIKE IN ONE YEAR. 
          AND THAT'S BECAUSE FUEL FARMING AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          SO WE DO, THIS IS INCLUSIVE OF WHAT'S IN THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, BUT FOR THE OUT YEARS, WE DON'T JUST DROP THAT TO ZERO EITHER. 
          WE ANTICIPATE THAT SOME ONGOING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, DOES THIS MODEL, DOES THIS MODEL, THE, THE, UH, FUEL FARM BEING FINANCED OR BEING CASH FUNDED? IT'S THE COMBINATION OF BOTH. 
          SO THERE IS A PORTION THAT'S, AS I MENTIONED, THAT'S UH, BEING CASH FUNDED, WE'RE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR MOST OF IT, AND THEN WE ARE FINANCING A PORTION OF IT AS WE CAN CHOOSE TO MAYBE DO THAT DIFFERENTLY IN THE FUTURE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND THE SCOPE MAY CHANGE. 
          THE NUMBERS MAY BE VERY HIGH. 
          YEAH, WE WOULD DEFINITELY WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE A REFINED SCOPE TO DETERMINE WHAT THE DEFINITIVE FUNDING, FUNDING PLAN MAY BE. 
          BUT THIS IS, THIS IS MORE OF A WORST CASE SCENARIO, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE PRICE IS GOING TO GO UP. 
          UM, YEAH, SO HOPEFULLY IT GOES DOWN. 
          UM, BUT THIS WOULD BE ASSUMING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WAS PRESENTED, UM, UH, MONTH AGO IS, IS THE PRICE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STORMWATER? OKAY, MOVING ON TO UTILITY FUND. 
          SO UTILITY FUND, UM, THERE IS A PROPOSED RATE INCREASE IN FIVE, 5%, BUT THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE, UH, RATE MODEL THAT WAS ADOPTED IN, UM, 2022, WHICH COVERS, UH, 2024 FROM 2028. 
          UM, THE MAIN INCREASE ON THE EXPENSE SIDE IS OUR WATER PURCHASE THROUGH WASTEWATER TREATMENT. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT MAKES UP ABOUT 54% OF THE TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET OF THIS FUND. 
          UM, SO WE SAW 7.7% INCREASES IN, UH, WHOLESALE WATER COSTS, ABOUT 9.1% INCREASES IN WASTEWATER TREATMENT COSTS. 
          UM, SO THAT REALLY IS THE DRIVING OF PORTION BEHIND US NEEDING THAT FIVE POINT HALF PERCENT RATE INCREASE THAT'S IN THE MODEL. 
          BUT WE WERE, WE WERE ABLE TO FIND SOME EFFICIENCIES IN SOME OTHER AREAS. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER SERVICES, YOU SEE THAT INCREASE. 
          WE CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE CUSTOMERS AS OUR BILLS ARE INCREASING AS WELL. 
          WE'RE HAVING, YOU KNOW, ALMOST ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS TAKE THE CREDIT CARD NOW, SO WE HAVE CREDIT CARD FEES, WHICH ARE INCORPORATED IN THAT LINE. 
          SO WE CONTINUE TO SEE SOME INCREASES THERE. 
          UM, BUT ALSO, 
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UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE SEEN REVENUE THAT HAS OUTPERFORMED, UH, THE MODEL OR REALLY DUE TO HOT AND DRY SUMMERS. 
          IT HASN'T BEEN THAT HOT AND DRY SO FAR. 
          SO, UM, SO WE'RE KIND OF TRENDING, UH, A LITTLE BIT, PROBABLY LOWER THAN WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF FISCAL YEARS, BUT STILL WITHIN WHAT OUR MODEL PROJECTS. 
          UM, IF YOU LOOK AT LAST YEAR'S ACTUAL, WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP WITH $9.4 MILLION IN WATER REVENUE. 
          AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE BUDGETING FOR THIS YEAR, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE INCREASED INCREASED RATES. 
          SO IT WAS JUST SO HOT, UH, IN 2023 THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SO MUCH USAGE IN THE SUMMER. 
          SO OVERALL REVENUE, 17,333,000 OPERATING EXPENSES, 17,326,000. 
          SO VERY SLIGHT REVENUE OVER OPERATING EXPENSES. 
          THEN WE HAVE, UH, THE ONE TIME DECISION PACKAGE RELATED TO THE KELWAY, UM, PUMP STATION MAINTENANCE THAT SHANNON TALKED ABOUT, AND THEN THE THREE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT SHANNON TALKED ABOUT. 
          AND WE DO HAVE, UH, 950,000 PROPOSED, UH, FOR THE WATER METER SYSTEM, THE WATER METER UPGRADE, UH, BEING CASH FUNDED, UH, THE BATHROOM ADDITION AND THE ADDISON CIRCLE TOWER DRIVEWAY BEING CASH FUNDED. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A PLAN, UH, REALLY DRAW DOWN OF OUR WORKING CAPITAL BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD, UH, WATER SALES THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, REALLY HIGH IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          SO REDUCING THAT, UH, ANY WORKING CAPITAL, STILL HAVING ABOUT $7.5 MILLION, BUT IT'S ABOUT 43.4% IN OPERATING RESERVE, STILL ABOVE OUR 25% THRESHOLD. 
          BUT, UM, NOT LIKE THE AIRPORT OR THE STORE. 
          I JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT, STEVEN, REFERENCE THE, THE MODEL A NUMBER OF TIMES, WHICH WAS ADOPTED FOR OUR PLAN FOR INCREASES, BUT THAT'S NOT AUTOMATIC. 
          EACH YEAR WE GO INTO THE BUDGET AND WE TRY TO SAY, DO WE ACTUALLY NEED THAT INCREASE? SO LAST YEAR WE ACTUALLY DID REDO, WE WENT LOWER THAN THE INCREASE THAT WAS IN THE MODEL. 
          SO IT DOES COME DOWN TO WHERE, WHAT ARE THOSE FULL SOLE COSTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT SEMEN TOUCHED ON. 
          BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT WE JUST AUTOMATICALLY SAY, THIS MODEL SAYS WE'RE DOING A 5%, WE'RE DOING IT. 
          IT REALLY LOOKS AT IT EVERY YEAR. 
          AND UTILITY FUNDS ARE ALWAYS DIFFICULT IN THE SUMMER. 
          'CAUSE YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET IN THE SUMMER AND THAT'S WHEN THE REVENUE'S REALLY COMING IN STRONG. 
          YEAH, WE REALLY DON'T WHERE WE'RE GONNA END UP BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, THIS IS OUR HIGH TIME, SO THIS IS WHEN IT'S, UH, WHEN ALL THE SALES ARE HAPPENING. 
          SO, UM, LOOKING AT THE FORECAST FOR THE, FOR THE 10 YEAR MODEL, STEVEN. 
          YES. 
          SO DO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION, UH, WOULD IT BE SAFE TO NOT HAVE THAT INCREASE THIS YEAR? AGAIN, WE ARE, WE, AT THAT POINT JUST YET OR SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO HAVE THE INCREASE BECAUSE REALLY BY THE WHOLESALE COST HIGHER COST? YEAH. 
          SO WHAT'S PROGRAMMED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS THE 5.5% INCREASE, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS IN THE MODEL. 
          UH, THAT WAS, UH, FROM 20 OR FROM ADOPTED IN 2022. 
          AND YEAH, BECAUSE THE WHOLESALE COST WENT UP SO DRAMATICALLY, THEY WENT UP 7.7 9.1% FOR WATER AND SEWER. 
          WOW. 
          THAT LUCKILY WE'RE, WE'RE ABLE TO, TO GET THAT DOWN TO THAT, JUST THAT 5%. 
          SO LAST YEAR WE CHOSE TO RAISE A FOUR POINT A HALF PERCENT INSTEAD OF FIVE POINT HALF. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          WHAT DOES THAT PERCENT DIFFERENCE SOMEHOW ON THAT INCREASE? WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS THAT ISH? UM, AS FAR AS OVERALL OR JUST FOR THIS YEAR? YEAH. 
          WHAT DOES 1% LOOK LIKE? INCREASE FOR THE, SOMEBODY CAME, YEAH, ABOUT 90, THE FEES, 95,000 ON THE WATER SIDE, ABOUT 75,000 ON THE SEWER, SO ABOUT 170,000. 
          OKAY, TOTAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO OUR LONG TERM MODEL HERE FOR THE UTILITY FUND, UM, SO THE PERCENTAGE INCREASES THAT FOR REVENUE THAT ARE IN THERE, UM, ARE BASED ON THAT RATE MODEL, UM, WHICH GOES THROUGH 2028, AND THEN THERE'S ABOUT A FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE EACH YEAR AFTER THAT. 
          UH, THE EXPENDITURES, UH, ARE INCLUSIVE OF 3.5% INCREASES IN SALARIES, 5% FOR HEALTH INSURANCE. 
          UM, 5% INCREASES IN WHOLESALE WATER AND SEWER PURCHASES EACH YEAR. 
          UM, DALLAS WATER UTILITIES DOES A RELATE STUDY EVERY YEAR. 
          SO, UM, THIS LAST YEAR IT WAS OVER THE 5%. 
          UM, EVERY OTHER YEAR I'VE BEEN HERE, IT'S BEEN, UH, LOWER THAN THE 5% I BELIEVE. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN CHEMICAL COSTS AND, AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS WHICH ARE STARTING TO, TO COME A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES, UH, 3% INCREASES HERE FOR THE UTILITY FUND. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL PROBABLY IMPACT THE RATES MORE THAN, MORE THAN ANY OTHER THING OTHER THAN THE WHOLESALE COST IS THE DEBT ISSUANCES. 
          AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, 
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UM, BASED ON THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, A DEBT ISSUANCE PROGRAM FOR 2025 AND 2029. 
          SO WHEN WE GET THAT WATER THROUGH A MASTER PLAN AND WE PLUG THOSE PROJECTS INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, UM, AND HOPEFULLY SOME OF THOSE DON'T NEED TO BE DONE. 
          UM, SO IF THEY DIDN'T, THAT WOULD REDUCE THE NEED FOR THAT DEBT ISSUANCE, WHICH REDUCED WHAT'S APPROPRIATE. 
          SO OVERALL THOUGH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, THE RED DOT AGAIN, UH, DOTTED LINE, 25%, UM, THE, THE ACTUAL, UH, CASH POSITION TRENDS JUST ABOVE THAT. 
          SO, UH, WE'RE MAINTAINING SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF, UH, AROUND 40% MARKER, UM, THROUGHOUT THE 10 YEAR MODEL. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE MAJOR FUNDS? UTILITY FUNDS? OKAY. 
          CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. 
          SO I HAD DONE THE PRESENTATION, UM, ABOUT A MONTH AGO OVER THE ENTIRE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. 
          ALL THAT I HAVE IN HERE. 
          AND, AND EACH DEPARTMENT HAS GONE OVER THE NEW CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. 
          ALL THAT I HAVE IN THIS PRESENTATION IS KIND OF THE OVERVIEW OF, OF, UH, WHAT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BUDGET IS THIS YEAR. 
          SO IT'S REALLY, UH, $51 MILLION IS WHAT IS IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COMBINATION OF A GENERAL OBLIGATION, UH, CERTIFICATE, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, UH, STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOANS. 
          AND, UH, WE ACTUALLY THINK, UH, THAT WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION TO GET THAT LOAN. 
          UM, THAT'S GOING LATER THIS MONTH FOR FINAL APPROVAL TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. 
          AND IF IT WAS APPROVED, WE'LL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY, UM, APPROVE THAT LOAN. 
          AND THE INTEREST RATE THAT IF WE DO GET THAT LOAN AND WE GET THAT LOCKED IN IS 2.51%. 
          SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY AMAZING, AND THAT'S, UH, AGAIN, $44.6 MILLION FOR FORUM DRIVE, UH, MONTFORD, UH, A PORTION OF KELLER SPRINGS. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT PORTIONS OF THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FUNDED BY SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS, FUNDS, STREET SELF-FUNDED, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND. 
          AND THEN YOU REALLY GET INTO, UH, WHAT'S BEING FUNDED BY THOSE ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND, AND THEIR, UM, BOND ISSUANCES AND THEIR, UH, CASH RESERVES. 
          AND FOR THE AIRPORT FUND, UH, THERE'S SOME BRAND FUNDS THERE AS WELL. 
          BUT IN TOTAL, THE OVERALL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN OVER THE FIVE YEARS, 223, ALMOST THREE $4 MILLION, BUT FOR YOUR FISCAL YEAR 2025 PROPOSED BUDGET, AGAIN, 15 MILLION. 
          SO STAY ON THAT FOR GO AHEAD. 
          I, I, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, UM, AGAIN, WE DIDN'T WANNA GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION AGAIN BECAUSE WE ALREADY DID THIS PRESENTATION, BUT, UH, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW AT LEAST ONE PROJECT AND, AND IN YOUR BOOK YOU SEE ALL THE PROJECTS. 
          IF YOU GO TO PAGE 60, SORRY, 61, IF YOUR BOOK PAGE 63 HAS A GENERAL FUND, UH, CAPITAL REPLACEMENTS, I THINK IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TOUCH ON THE POLICE STATION. 
          THIS WOULD BE, THIS DOES START, THAT FUNDING PROCESS FOR THE POLICE STATION HAS THREE A MILLION FOR DESIGN. 
          SO WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          SO I DO THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IF THERE'S ANY, THIS IS THE PATH THAT WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW, IF THERE'S ANY CONVERSATION, IF YOU WANT TO, I KNOW THE LAST TIME WE, WE WENT INTO THIS AND WE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT IT, ABOUT HOW WE WOULD FUND THIS TO SEE GOING WITH COS. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANT TO, THIS WOULD BE KIND OF THAT FIRST STEP OF MAKING A DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE POLICE STATION. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT. 
          WELL, SO MY QUESTION IS, SO WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING THE TAX RATE THE SAME, BUT THE PORTION SERVICING DEBT IS GOING UP, OUT, OUT OF WHICH OF THOSE NUMBERS IS GOING TO GO TO THE, IS IT THE INS? IS IT JUST THE 11 MILLION 1 38? NO, SO THAT STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOANS, THE, AND REALLY THOSE TWO, UM, TWO LINES THERE. 
          UM, EVERYTHING ELSE IS, YOU KNOW, UTILITIES CERTIFICATES ARE FUNDED BY THE UTILITY RATE SELF-FUNDED. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S REALLY THE, REALLY THOSE TOP TWO LINES, THE, THE 33,300 IS, IS NEW ADDITIONAL DEBT THAT WILL BE FUNDED BY INS OR THE THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND THAT, THAT SOME OF THIS, AND LET ME, LET ME CLARIFY SOME OF THIS, BUT SOME OF THOSE GENERAL OBLIGATIONS AND CERTIFICATES HAVE ALREADY BEEN ISSUED. 
          SO SOME OF THEM WE ALREADY HAVE. 
          SO WE'RE JUST COMPLETING THE PROJECTS NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'VE ALREADY SOLD SOME OF THOSE LOANS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHEN, WHEN WE ACTUALLY FUND THE PROJECT OR PAY FOR THE PROJECT, THAT'S WHEN WE ACTUALLY SEE IT IN THE BUDGET. 
          THIS IS US JUST PAYING FOR THE, 
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FOR THE ACTUAL CAPITAL OUTLAY OF THE PROJECT. 
          UM, SO FOR INSTANCE, THIS YEAR WE ARE, WHAT, WHAT IS IN THE INTEREST IN SEEKING PORTION OF TAX RATE IS WE HAVE $5.4 MILLION THAT WE'RE SELLING IN COS UM, AND THEN WE HAVE, WE'RE PLANNING ON DRAWING DOWN $15 MILLION FROM THE SAME INFRASTRUCTURE BANK. 
          UM, SO, SO THAT'S WHAT'S INCORPORATED INTO THAT 17TH STEP INTEREST IN SEEKING TAX RATE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT A LOT OF THE PROCEEDS THAT ARE LISTED IN THAT TOP LINE, UM, WE, WE ALREADY, WE ALREADY HAVE SOLD BONDS. 
          SO THEY'RE ALREADY INCORPORATED INTO THE INTEREST IN SEEKING TAX RATE. 
          WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SERVICING THAT DEBT. 
          WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SERVICING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE PROJECTS LIKE KELLER SPRINGS, IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 
          WE'VE STARTED DESIGN OF FORUM, UH, WE STARTED DESIGN OF MONTFORD. 
          SO WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SERVICING, UM, DEBT PROHIBITION FOR THOSE PROJECTS. 
          UH, THE LAYOFF POND PROJECT, WE'VE SOLD BONDS FOR THAT. 
          UH, THE EXPENDITURES ARE OCCURRING IN A SUBSEQUENT FISCAL. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT THE BRAND NEW DEBT, YOU SAID 5,000,004 AND THEN 15, 15 MILLION IS WHAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE TO, TO DRAW DOWN FROM THAT STATE INFRASTRUCTURE . 
          OKAY. 
          SO DAVID, DO WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POLICE STATION? IT CAN BE A SHORT CUT DISCUSSION OR A LONG DISCUSSION, BUT JUST SOME KIND OF, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS IN BUDGET AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          ANYBODY HAVE COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, QUESTIONS? I'M COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD. 
          YEAH, AHEAD. 
          I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. 
          I YEAH. 
          RATHER THAN CONTINUE TO SPEND MONEY CORRECT. 
          TO JUST TRY TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE. 
          I THINK IT MAKES BETTER SENSE TO, TO CONSTRUCT SOMETHING NEW. 
          DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE SPENDING THE MAINSTREAM, WE HAD A LIST IN THE, IN THAT PRESENTATION WHERE WE SHOWED A HISTORY OF ALL OF THE MAIN EXPENSES YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN PULL THAT UP QUICKLY, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP AND GET THAT TO YOU. 
          IS THE TOTAL DEBT FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AROUND 110 MILLION? SEEMS LIKE I SAW THAT SOMEWHERE IN THIS BUDGET, BUT DOES IT SAY THAT IN THE BUDGET, KRISTEN, DO YOU KNOW? OR MAYBE I, I THINK A, SO, SO OVERALL WE HAVE UM, ABOUT 133 MILLION. 
          UH, BUT THAT'S NOT ALL SERVICED BY PROPERTY TAX RATE. 
          SO SOME OF THAT IS FROM THE AIRPORT REVENUE OR THE STORM WATER FUND, UH, OR THE UTILITY FUND. 
          SO I THINK THE $110 MILLION IS WHAT'S FUNDED. 
          SO I I, NOW THERE'S SO MANY PAGES HERE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE I SAW IT, BUT IT, I WAS DOING SOME MATH ON IT. 
          IT LOOKED LIKE WE'RE PAYING 10% INTEREST ON THAT DEBT. 
          IS THAT, THAT CAN'T BE RIGHT. 
          NO. 
          SO I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S PRINCIPAL REDUCTION AND INTEREST, BUT DO WE KNOW WHAT INTEREST RATE WE ARE PAYING ON IT? UM, THE AGGREGATE I BELIEVE IS LESS THAN 3%. 
          UM, ACTUALLY I THINK IT'S QUITE A MILLION THAN 3%. 
          UM, I COULD GET YOU THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY PAGES THERE. 
          THE DEBT SERVICE THAT WE'RE PAYING BACK. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          THERE WAS THE BIG NU I DON'T KNOW, I CAN PROBABLY FIND IT. 
          I KNOW IT. 
          A LOT OF STUFF. 
          UM, WHERE DID I FIND THIS? I KNOW I HAD A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS IN THE WAY THIS PRESENTATION IN THE BOOK, THEY DON'T FALL EXACTLY THE SAME THING. 
          SO I A LITTLE CONFUSED BY IT. 
          UM, YOU LOOKING AT PAGE 1 25 OR PAGE WHAT? GO TO THE END. 
          YOU MIGHT ON PAGE 2025. 
          NO, IT WASN'T THAT FAR BACK. 
          UM, BUT WELL, WHAT ARE WE SPENDING TOTAL ON DEBT SERVICE? DO YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER EACH YEAR? UH, FOR 2024, ABOUT $13.5 MILLION. 
          NOW THAT'S NOT ALL FROM THE INTEREST IN SEEKING PORTION. 
          THAT'S IN TOTAL INCLUDING ALL OF THE UTILITY FUND AIRPORT FUNDS. 
          SO 13 MILLION IS ROUND NUMBERS ON 110 OR EVEN 130 IS 10%. 
          NOW PART OF IT'S PRINCIPAL, BUT SO ARE WE PAYING DOWN THAT MUCH PRINCIPAL? YEAH, ABOUT 9 MILLION IN PRINCIPAL. 
          SO I DID, I DID SOMETHING WRONG. 
          9 MILLION. 
          THAT'S PAGE 1 25. 
          THIS ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL I JUST, THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE STATION. 
          I I'M IN FAVOR OF IT, 
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BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING TOO MUCH DEBT. 
          YEAH. 
          OUR INTEREST RATE IS, IS VERY LOW. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          WELL I KNEW YOU'VE TOLD US THAT. 
          I JUST, WHEN I DID MY OWN CALCULATIONS, IT WAS HIGH. 
          THE, THE BOND SALE THAT WE'RE GONNA DO HERE IN SEPTEMBER, UM, AND INTEREST RATES HAVE DROPPED OVER LESS THAN WHAT WE EXCITED TO ANTICIPATE. 
          YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW IT BIG INTEREST RATES VERY, VERY HIGH. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT OUR SALE IS PROBABLY GONNA BE 3.5%. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU TOLD ME BEFORE. 
          'CAUSE IT'S TAX FREE. 
          OKAY. 
          STEVEN, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, I'M LOOKING AT, AT THE, THE DEBT, THE DEBT CHAPTER HERE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND IT SAYS ALL OUTSTANDING GENERAL OBLIGATIONS. 
          UM, DOES THAT NOT INCLUDE OUR, OUR COS IT IT DOES, IT DOES. 
          IT INCLUDES EVERYTHING. 
          UM, ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO EMAIL HIM THAT POLICE? YEAH. 
          UH, OUR CURRENT POLICE FACILITY, UH, EXPENDITURES OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS OR SO FORTH, I THINK THAT THEY CAN FEEL A LOT BETTER ABOUT. 
          YEAH. 
          SITUATION. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE POLICE STATION OR EVERYBODY'S GOOD? OKAY. 
          WOULD YOU TALK ANY DETAILS ABOUT JAIL? NO JAIL OR ANYTHING OR? NO, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE AS WE DISCUSSED, AT LEAST IN THE DESIGN PORTION. 
          UM, CONCEPTUALLY WHAT A GEL WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          UH, WE ARE CONTINUING FROM AN OPERATING STANDPOINT TO LOOK AT OPTIONS FOR THE JAIL. 
          UM, UM, WHAT COULD THAT LOOK LIKE IF WE WITH GRAPEVINE PARTNER WITH SOMEONE ELSE TOOK IT IN HOUSE? BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT. 
          THE CAPITAL COST ISN'T REALLY THE BIGGEST CONSIDERATION ON THE JAIL. 
          IT'S REALLY, ITS OPERATING COST AND IT'S SIGNIFICANT. 
          SO THAT'S MORE OF JUST A PREVIEW FOR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS. 
          WE ARE TRYING TO JUST THINK ABOUT ALL OPTIONS. 
          HAVE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS CHIEF AND REALLY JUMPED ON THIS. 
          I'VE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH GRAPEVINE. 
          THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO THINK OF ALL OPTIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          UM, HAVE TALKED TO OTHER CITIES AS WELL. 
          SO WILL WE BRINGING OPTIONS BACK IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS TO JUST HAVE THAT BIG DISCUSSION. 
          BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP US FROM AT LEAST HAVING THAT INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN AS AN ALTERNATE TO SAY WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF WE HAD TO JAIL. 
          SO YOU JUST WANNA KNOW OUR COMFORT LEVEL MORE WHERE, OKAY. 
          SO THE TOTAL JAIL NUMBER WAS LIKE 34 MILLION? IS THAT WHAT I RECALL THE POLICE BUILDING? DID THAT INCLUDE THE JAIL? WE, THAT DID NOT INCLUDE THE JAIL. 
          I, YEAH, DID NOT INCLUDE THE JAIL. 
          SO IT WOULD BE AN ALTERNATE. 
          ALTERNATE, UM, OKAY. 
          BUT SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. 
          SO OUR BUDGET IS AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE THERE. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT A REMAINING BUDGET CALENDAR ON THE WEBSITE AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO BUDGET THERE, THERE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL. 
          UM, GOING FORWARD, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY OUTSTANDING ITEMS, WE'LL ADDRESS THOSE, UH, AT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS IN AUGUST. 
          I THINK MAYBE THE SECOND COUNCIL MEETING. 
          IF THERE'S ANYTHING, UH, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT, UH, AGAIN, METRO PRESS SERVICES WILL BE COMING TO DO THEIR PRESENTATION AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. 
          UH, WE'LL HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, UH, SEPTEMBER 3RD, UH, A PUBLIC, UH, BUDGET AND TAX RATE, A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UH, AND THE TOWN HAS DONE TWO PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT'S REQUIRED BY LAW. 
          SO WE HAVE CONTINUED TO DO TWO EVEN THOUGH THE LAW CHANGE, UH, A FEW YEARS AGO. 
          AND THEN WE'LL THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON EP SEPTEMBER 10TH FOR THE BUDGET TAX RATE. 
          UM, AND THEN COUNSEL WOULD ALSO, UM, BE BE ASKED TO, TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE BUDGET TAX RATE, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. 
          AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE LITTLE FOR THE WE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL? YEAH, I'VE GOT A COUPLE SUGGESTIONS ON EDITS TO THE BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AS FAR AS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONCERN, UM, I'M NOT, I'M NOT A FAN OR, OR, UM, I SHOULD SAY SUPPORTIVE OF THE $200,000 AD FOR THE, THE MEAL VOUCHER PROGRAM. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US NOT NOT DO THAT. 
          IS THAT A, IS THAT AN INCREASE, UH, FOR THAT 200,000? IS THAT AN INCREASE FOR THAT, UM, THAT FUND? IT JUST WOULD, IT COMES OUT THE FUND BALANCE OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND. 
          SO WE JUST WOULDN'T SPEND THE MONEY. 
          WELL WHAT I'M, I THOUGHT YOU SAID SOMETHING EARLIER THAT THESE ARE, THESE ARE WOULD BE INCREASES TO LAST YEAR'S, UM, AMOUNTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT 200,000 IS SO IF WE DON'T DO IT, WE DON'T DO IT COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET, IT WOULD JUST GO TO THE FUND BALANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S A NEW PROGRAM. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          UM, SO I'M 
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SURE I'M NOT, I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT OTHER, OTHER THINGS. 
          I AGREE. 
          OTHER USES FOR THE FUNDS. 
          OTHER USES. 
          I AGREE IN FAVOR OF IT. 
          I'M FINE, YOUR HONOR, MY THOUGHT, AND I THINK THE REASON I HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT LAST NIGHT IS, AND IT MIGHT GET BACK TO, I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS. 
          I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT BUDGET IS GONNA ALLOW FOR ACTUALLY GOING OUT AND TRYING TO DEVELOP BUSINESS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, LIKE I SAID LAST NIGHT, I APPLAUD THE IDEA. 
          I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE BACK, OUT OF THE BOX IDEA. 
          UM, I MAY, I MAY GO GET COMFORTABLE WITH IT IF I'M CONFIDENT THAT THERE'S FUNDS IN THAT BUDGET TO DO OTHER THINGS. 
          'CAUSE MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS, WELL, 200,000 WOULD GO A REAL LONG WAY IF WE SAID WE'RE GONNA DO A QUARTERLY, UM, CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, HAPPY HOUR FOR BROKERS AT EACH OFFICE TOWER. 
          WE, WE BRING IN THE BUILDING OWNER, THEIR BROKERS, WE INVITE BROKERS IN, UM, TO JUST ESTABLISH RELATIONS. 
          TRY TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHY THEY SHOULD BRING THEIR BUSINESS HERE TO ADDISON. 
          UM, IF, IF, IF THERE'S FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THAT. 
          AND, AND THE LAUNCHES ARE JUST ONE OF SEVERAL MECHANISMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE. 
          I I, I, I CAN PROBABLY GET THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS ON PATH. 
          AND, AND I THINK FOR ME, WE GONNA REALLY FOCUS ON BRINGING BUSINESS IN RATHER THAN JUST REWARDING WHAT'S ALREADY HERE. 
          UH, I THINK THAT, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS JUST WAYNE AND I TALKED ABOUT TODAY, JUST KIND OF, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND WE ACTUALLY WERE TRYING TO FIND A SPOT FOR IT, BUT IT WAS TOUGH ON WORK SESSIONS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE IS TO JUST HAVE A WORK SESSION WHERE WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE ECONOMIC, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND, WHAT IT CAN BE USED FOR, WHAT ARE OPTIONS FOR IT ALL, HOW, HOW, HOW WE CAN USE IT COMPARED TO WHAT OTHER CITIES DO. 
          I THINK WAYNE TOUCHED ON ON THAT A LITTLE BIT THAT, YOU KNOW, DISADVANTAGE WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE GO UP AGAINST TOWNS THAT HAVE FOUR A, FOUR B, UM, BUT I, WE ALSO JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT OUR TOTAL TOOLKIT BECAUSE IT, I DO SOME OF THIS IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS IN ISOLATION, IT'S NOT THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT THERE. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST AN IDEA. 
          IF IT, IF WE WANT TO FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO IT, THAT'S FINE, BUT I THINK YOUR POINT'S WELL TAKEN THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT IN CONTEXT AND HAVE THIS FULL CONVERSATION. 
          I THINK IT'S A RIGHT TIME TO HAVE THAT. 
          SO OUR PLAN WOULD BE IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, COME BACK AND JUST HAVE A FULL WORK SESSION WHERE WE DIG INTO ALL OF THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. 
          AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH AT THAT TIME, IF WE WANNA BRING BACK UP BLUE DOT PROGRAM, WE CERTAINLY CAN. 
          BUT THERE'S, I, I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          I WOULD WELCOME. 
          THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          THE SURVEY THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT TO SEND TO THE BUSINESSES TO GET THEIR INPUT, WHICH IS LIKE, I GUESS ARE THEY PLANNING TO STAY HERE? ARE THEY PLANNING TO GROW? ARE THEY PLANNING TO LEAVE? OR WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THEY, LIKE, WHAT ARE THEY DISLIKE? IS THERE A SURVEY ALREADY PREPARED THAT WE COULD SEE? I I, I GUESS I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM THE BUSINESSES IF THEY PARTICIPATE. 
          WHAT WOULD INFORMATION, WHAT ARE WE GONNA LEARN FROM THIS? WELL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION, WHICH IS RIGHT NOW A BIG STEP TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE PERSON WHO'S THE MAIN CONTACT WHEN WE WANT TO REACH OUT TO THEM. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HOPEFULLY, AND WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HAVE THEM GET US, GIVE US HONEST FEEDBACK. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED YESTERDAY, DO WE WANNA HEAR THEIR COMPLAINTS? ABSOLUTELY. 
          I WANNA HEAR THEIR COMPLAINTS. 
          I AGREE. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THEIR COMPLAINTS AND THEIR STRENGTHS, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO HEAR OUR, WHAT MAKES THEM HAVE THEIR EMPLOYEES COME HERE IS, AND A LOT OF IT TOO IS TO START THE DIALOGUE. 
          PART OF THE ISSUE WITH THE BUSINESS REGISTRATION PROGRAM, OBVIOUSLY WE SAW THE CHART THAT WE'RE GETTING, BUT IT ALSO HAS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          WHO WE WANT TO BE BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS, HAVE THESE POSITIVE INTERACTIONS AND BE A RESOURCE FOR OUR BUSINESSES. 
          THE FIRST INTERACTION THEY HAVE WITH THEM IS SAYING, WE NEED SOME MONEY. 
          OH, GIVE US $50. 
          YOU KNOW, SO I THINK WE CAN STILL, AND WE'RE GONNA STILL MOVE FORWARD UNLESS THERE'S SOME OTHER, WITH MOVING TO A SURVEY. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA THINK OF ALL DIFFERENT WAYS TO TRY TO GET THAT SURVEY OUT AND GO TO THE BUSINESSES, GO TO THE OFFICE SPACES TO DO THAT. 
          I DO THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE, THIS IS A WORTHWHILE EXERCISE TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THAT INFORMATION AND HEAR FROM AS WE GO FORWARD. 
          IS IT 3000 BUSINESSES THAT THAT COMP, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT MET THE, UM, THE CRITERIA THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR THAT HAD ENOUGH EMPLOYEES OR ONE 1000 BUSINESS TO GET  OR JUST  THIS CURRENT, UNDER THE BUSINESS REGISTRATION, WE'RE ABOUT 12%. 
          SO GOLD TRYING TO INCREASE THAT. 
          SO WE OFFER THE BUSINESSES $500 TO FULFILL THE SURVEY AND SEND IT BACK TO US. 
          MAYBE WE 
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GET MORE THAN 30% AND IT COST US LESS. 
          I IF, IF THE GOAL IS TO GET THE SURVEYS OR IS THE GOAL TO MAKE THE EMPLOYEES HAPPY WITH A FREE LUNCH. 
          BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO, AND AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ALL THIS TIME ON THE BLUE DOT BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT YESTERDAY AND I THINK WE HAVE GOOD DIRECTION, BUT IT WAS MULTIPLE GOALS. 
          IT WAS TO GET THE SURVEY FILLED OUT. 
          IT WAS TO PILOT THIS PROGRAM THAT WE COULD USE FOR FUTURE INCENTIVES. 
          IT WAS ALSO TO GET THE EMPLOYEES TO HAVE A BENEFIT FOR THE EMPLOYEES SO THAT THEY, HEY, THIS IS NEAT. 
          I GO OUT AND DO THESE RESTAURANTS AND GET 'EM OUT AND IT, IT IS AN INCENTIVE THAT DOESN'T JUST GO TO A BUSINESS, IT GOES BACK INTO THE LOCAL ECONOMY. 
          IT GOES TO OUR RESTAURANTS. 
          SO THOSE WERE A LOT OF THE REASONS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING TO, UM, AN OFFICE PARK TODAY AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THERE'S INCENTIVE PROGRAMS THEY'RE SEEING WHERE THEY'RE GIVEN EVERYONE, ALL THE TENANTS IN THEIR OFFICE BUILDING FOR UBER RIDES. 
          SO IT'S A SIMILAR KIND OF THING, JUST ANOTHER CLERK. 
          UM, BUT IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T JUST AN ISOLATED, WE ONLY WANT THIS FOR SURVEY. 
          IT WAS FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS THAT WHILE WE'RE PUTTING THAT OUT THERE, WELL, I DO LIKE THE IDEA THAT IT GOES BACK TO THE BUSINESSES IN ADDISON. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE MONEY'S STAYING IN TOWN, BUT I JUST DIDN'T THINK TO GET 30% SURE IS A HIGH ENOUGH PERCENTAGE. 
          PLUS I, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK A $10 LUNCH IS GONNA MAKE A LOT OF AN IMPACT, BUT THAT WAS JUST MY OPINION. 
          AND, AND, AND SO MIKE, MY MY POSITION ON THAT IS THAT $10 PROBABLY ISN'T GONNA IMPACT SOMEBODY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE WORKING IN ADDISON, THEY'RE PROBABLY HAVING A NICE INCOME. 
          SO THAT 10 BUCKS ISN'T GONNA BE A GAME CHANGER FOR THEM. 
          BUT IF THEY'RE GONNA GO EAT LUNCH, AND OH BY THE WAY, I HAVE A $10 VOUCHER FOR ONE OF THESE, YOU KNOW, AT ADDISON RESTAURANT, WELL, LET'S GO TO, LET'S GO TO THIS RESTAURANT. 
          AND IT, IT KEEPS THAT MONEY IN ADDISON, INSTEAD OF THEM CHOOSING TO GO OUTSIDE OF ADDISON, YOU KNOW, IT, IT DRIVES BUSINESS TO OUR RESTAURANTS, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT TO US SINCE THAT IS OUR NUMBER ONE SALES TAX GENERATOR, IS THE FOOD AND SERVICE. 
          SO FOR ME, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA WORK. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL, BUT I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF TRYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT JUST TO, AND SEE IF IT WORKS. 
          IF IT DOESN'T WORK, OKAY, WE LEARN FROM IT. 
          AND WHAT DO WE DO DIFFERENT NEXT TIME? BUT I'M, I'M OKAY WITH IT. 
          IF YOU GUYS DECIDE YOU DON'T WANNA DO IT, THAT'S THAT'S FINE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, NO HARD FEELINGS ON MY END. 
          BUT, UM, BUT I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF TRYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          I LIKE, GO AHEAD NANCY. 
          WELL, I LIKE IT IN, UH, IN MANY WAYS, BUT TO ADDRESS LIKE THE, THE $10 ISSUE, UH, NO, IT PROBABLY WON'T PAY FOR EVERYBODY'S FULL LUNCH. 
          BUT I DO THINK THAT IT WILL BE RE UH, EMPLOYEES WILL REMEMBER THAT THE TOWN DID THAT. 
          THEY GOT, THEY GOT THAT. 
          AND THEY'LL ALSO BE GRACIOUS THAT THE EMPLOYER FILLED OUT THE SURVEY SO THEY COULD HAVE IT. 
          SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOYALTY THERE. 
          UM, I SEE THESE THINGS DONE REGULARLY AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE HUGE. 
          UM, THESE RECOGNITIONS THAT YOU GIVE TO YOUR TENANTS, UM, UH, AND THEIR EMPLOYEES, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE HUGE FOR THEM TO REMEMBER THAT YOU EXTENDED A A THANK YOU AND A WELCOME AND AN APPRECIATION. 
          SO I'M NOT AFRAID OF THE FACT THAT THE $10 ISN'T GONNA COVER SOME OF THE LUNCHES. 
          IT'S THE FACT THAT WE STEPPED UP AND, AND TOLD THEM THAT WE APPRECIATE THEM BEING HERE AND THAT WE WANT TO KEEP THEM HERE AND WE'RE GONNA WORK FOR THEIR LOYALTY. 
          SO I'M, I'M, I'M IN, I, I EXPECT WE, THERE'S A WHOLE TOOL BOX AND THE WORKS SESSION IS VERY WELCOME. 
          AND THEN THIS IS JUST A SMALL PART OF IT, UNFORTUNATELY, IT GOT UNDER THE MICROSCOPE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS OPPOSED TO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT'S DOING. 
          SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ALL THE OTHER TOOLS AND MAYBE WE CAN ENHANCE THOSE AND MAYBE PROVIDE MORE FUNDING FOR THOSE. 
          THE WHOLE TOOLBOX. 
          AND HAVING MISSED IT BECAUSE OF THE CONFERENCE THAT I WAS AT AND DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS, BUT IT'S A CONVERSATION I'VE HAD WITH ABBY BEFORE AND CERTAINLY SOME PRIOR COUNSEL, IS WE HOST THREE MAJOR EVENTS A YEAR THAT COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 
          WE WANT TO PAY BACK THE LOYALTY OF MINE ALL OR BUSINESSES LOCAL. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHY ARE WE NOT GIVING THEM SOME SORT OF VIP VOUCHER OR SOME SORT OF $10 FIFTH TO COME TO OUR THREE EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR? THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS. 
          OR MY, MY, IF I HAD A WAND, IT WOULD SAY, YOU GET SOMETHING, YOU GET TICKETS. 
          THAT'S HOW YOU PAY LOYALTY BACK BY LETTING THESE PEOPLE COME TO OUR TOWN. 
          'CAUSE WHEN I SPEAK TO THE GUESTS AT THE FESTIVAL AND I FIND OUT THEY WORK IN ADDISON, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN HERE BEFORE? SO SOME OF THE VIP TICKETS THAT I GET, I GIVE OUT TO STRANGERS. 
          LITERALLY STRANGERS. 
          SO I DON'T WANT TO NEGATE ANY BLUE DO PROGRAM. 
          BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO SPEND 10 BUCKS, SPEND IT ON TICKETS TO OUR THREE, EXCUSE ME, OUR THREE FESTIVALS. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WE DID TALK 
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ABOUT THAT LAST NIGHT AND I THINK, I THINK THE COMMENT WAS WE WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT, BUT ARE WE DOING, ARE WE DOING IT ENOUGH WITH BUSINESS? WE CAN DO MORE AT A HIGHER LEVEL. 
          'CAUSE I WOULD LOVE THAT TOO. 
          'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S REALLY NO COST TO THOSE ENTRANCES TO US. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEY'RE GONNA SPEND MONEY WHERE WITHIN THE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE PAYING TO BE A TASTE, THE VENDORS WERE PAYING TO BE HERE. 
          I JUST FEEL LIKE THE, YOU WANT TO BUILD MORE SENSE OF COMMUNITY WITH OUR BUSINESSES, DO IT THROUGH OUR THREE BIGGEST EVENTS. 
          I THINK YOU CAN DO BOTH. 
          YEAH. 
          NICE. 
          OR A PIECE OF BOTH. 
          SO I'M, I'M ALL FOR A WORK SESSION. 
          IT'S ALL IN THE TOOLBOX. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WHERE ARE WE? FOUR NODES AND THREE, THIS IS, DO WE HAVE FOUR NODES? I WANT TO, I WANT TO HEAR THE WORK SESSION. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I, YEAH, I THINK, UM, REALLY THIS IS JUST COMING FROM FUND BALANCE. 
          SAY WE DECIDE TO DO IT IN NOVEMBER OR OCTOBER, WE CAN JUST DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND TAKE IT FROM FUND BALANCE. 
          IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. 
          SO LET'S COME BACK AND HAVE THE DISCUSSION. 
          IF AT THAT POINT WE DECIDE TO DO IT, WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S FAIR TO SAY WE WANNA SEE EVERYTHING BEFORE WE GO ON. 
          I THINK THOSE, I'M OPEN FOR NEW IDEAS. 
          I MEAN, DOING NEW THINGS AND TRYING, I I'M TOTALLY, I'M JUST SCRATCHING MY HEAD ON THIS SPECIFIC. 
          YEAH, GREAT. 
          THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME. 
          PERFECT. 
          I, I'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE, UM, ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY PROGRAM WITH A, WITH A MASONRY WALLS. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS BUDGETED THIS YEAR. 
          UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ALL, ALL I KNOW IS FROM THE MEETING LAST NIGHT, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE APPLICATIONS, UM, MAYBE HALF A DOZEN. 
          I DON'T, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT. 
          AND, UM, IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS PRETTY BIG DEAL AT THE TIME, UH, TO SOME OF THE HOA AND AT LEAST TO SOME OF THE HOAS. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK, I SUSPECT A HUNDRED THOUSAND MIGHT GO PRETTY QUICK. 
          AND SO ONE, ONE THOUGHT I HAD WAS, UH, MAYBE LOOKING AT 150,000, JUST A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA, UH, BUDGET. 
          UM, SO THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN FULFILL AS MANY AND MANY WALL WALL REPAIR REQUESTS AS POSSIBLE FOR THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. 
          I'LL JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT FOR OPENING UP FOR DISCUSSION ON THAT. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S FROM, FROM ITS STANDPOINT OF WILL THERE BE ENOUGH TO SPIN? I THINK THE ANSWER IS YES. 
          UH, THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND WAS ONLY PLUGGED IN AS WE WERE CONCEPTUALIZING IT WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THE PROGRAM, AND THAT JUST CARRIED FORWARD. 
          SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          IF THE COUNCIL'S COMFORTABLE WITH IT, I WILL SAY, AND WE WON'T GET, I DON'T WANNA GET TOO MUCH IN DETAIL THIS, IT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT COMES FORWARD. 
          POSSIBLY IT IS POSSIBLE WE COME FORWARD EVEN BEFORE THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR OR THIS BUDGET YEAR WITH AN EMERGENCY REQUEST WITH THE GRANT PROGRAM FOR THE WALLETS IN VERY POOR CONDITION THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON ALREADY. 
          SO, UM, JUST, I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE SURPRISED WHEN THAT COMES UP AS WELL. 
          SO THERE IS EVEN A POSSIBILITY THAT WE SAY, HEY, WE'RE WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD EVEN BEFORE OCTOBER ON A PARTICULAR, UM, GRANT APPLICATION. 
          WELL, THEY, SOMEBODY SAID THERE WERE ALREADY 22 APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED, SO WE HAVEN'T APPROVED THE BUDGET YET, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY REQUESTING THAT. 
          SO HOW, HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? THAT THAT WAS, UM, THE GRANT PROGRAM THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL SET THOSE DATES AND THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD SO THAT IT, HAS IT ALREADY BEEN APPROVED? THE PROGRAM APPROVED? WELL, THE, YEAH, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          THE PRO, THE PROGRAM PROGRAM APPROVED THE GRANT, THE GRANT PROGRAM, THE GRANT PROCESS, THEN WE HAVE TO FUND IT THROUGH THE BUDGET. 
          ANY, SO MAYBE YOU CAN, ANY GRANT THAT WE DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS ALWAYS HAS A CAVEAT THAT IT'S GOTTA BE FUNDED AS WE GO FORWARD. 
          SO, UM, IT'S CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE TO SAY WE'RE GONNA APPROVE THE PROGRAM AND START GETTING APPLICATIONS BECAUSE UNTIL WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO GO FORWARD. 
          BUT THAT WAS THE SEQUENCE. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IF THAT'S PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND WE HAVEN'T APPROVED THE BUDGET YET, BUT PEOPLE ARE ALREADY APPLYING FOR THE FUNDS. 
          I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. 
          SO IS THAT BEFORE I EVER GOT ON COUNCIL, THE PROGRAM WAS APPROVED IN FEBRUARY YES, YES. 
          BEFORE YOU CAME ON. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 
          IT IS FINE. 
          BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT LANGUAGE IN THE PROGRAM THAT BASICALLY SAYS FUNDING OF THIS WILL BE, FUNDING OF THIS APPLICATION WILL BE CONTINGENT UPON THE FUNDING OF THE PLAN OF THE PROGRAM. 
          I, I DON'T THINK OUR ATTORNEYS WOULD LET US. 
          UH, YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          SO IT'S JUST, IT WOULD SAY THAT, RIGHT. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT UNTIL THIS IS DONE. 
          SO IT'S THE SAME THING. 
          WELL, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOME GUIDANCE, I THINK DARREN SAID IT BEST LAST NIGHT. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S TIME AND MONEY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM 
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WITH FUNDING IT YOU OVER YEAR AND JUST MIGHT HAVE TO STRETCH OUT A LITTLE LONGER TO WE GET THROUGH ALL OF 'EM. 
          AND NOW THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO AN EMERGENCY FUNDING, I'M PROBABLY MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND BECAUSE IT BANDWIDTH LIMIT THE STAFF CAN DEAL WITH WITH NUMBER OF PROJECTS. 
          VERY GOOD POINT. 
          DEAL WITH ALL THAT. 
          SO, UM, I'D BE OKAY WITH KEEPING THE A HUNDRED IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COMES UP WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALONG THE WAY. 
          YOU KNOW, WE NEVER PROMISED ANYBODY WE'RE GONNA GET IT ALL DONE IN THE FIRST YEAR, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT LAST NIGHT, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, IT'S A LONG TERM ONGOING PROJECT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY IN, ALMOST IN PERPETUITY. 
          I'M OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO STAY IN A HUNDRED AND I THINK WE'LL GATHER A LOT OF DATA BY THE, UH, APPLICATIONS THIS YEAR TO SEE WHAT THE PLAY LOOKS LIKE, FORECAST. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANYBODY THAT THOUGHT WE WOULD DO IT IN A SHORTER TIME THAN A LONGER TIME. 
          NO EXPECTATIONS SET ON THAT. 
          I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I LIKE TO JUST START WITH A HUNDRED TO KEEP RIGHT. 
          KEEP THE BUDGET AND, AND THE BANDWIDTH OF, OF THE STAFF. 
          I DID YOU JUST SAY THAT, THAT'S A GREAT POINT BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY BUSY ALREADY. 
          SO WHAT WILL WE DO PRIORITIZE WHICH WALLS ARE IN THE WORST SHAPE OR WHICH ONES? THEY'LL, THEY'LL REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS AS THEY COME. 
          SO SOME WILL GET DONE BEFORE OTHERS, BUT IT'S NOT ON, SOME MIGHT WON'T GET APPROVED AND IT'S NOT ON FIRST COME FIRST SERVICE. 
          NO, IT'S NOT. 
          AND I'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, ALREADY SOME OF 'EM IT'S GREAT, WE WANT EVERYONE TO SEND IT IN, BUT SOME OF 'EM ARE REALLY MINOR MORE. 
          THESE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GONNA WAIT. 
          THERE'S SOME THAT OBVIOUSLY ONE THAT WE'VE ALREADY SAID THESE HAVE PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          THERE'S SOME THAT PROBABLY IN THE NEXT TWO. 
          SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO COME UP WITH, IT'S, IT'S BASED ON NOTHING BUT THE SEVERITY OF THE WALL. 
          NOW, UM, LESLIE DID SAY YESTERDAY WE, AS WE, WE PUT IT IN THE APPLICATION, WE SAID WE WANT NEIGHBORS TO WORK TOGETHER. 
          SO IF WE GET ONE THAT'S FIVE OR SIX FOLKS COMING TOGETHER ON THEIR WALL, WE'RE GONNA PRIORITIZE THOSE KIND OF THINGS AS WE GO FORWARD AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND IF LIKE A WALL FALLS DOWN, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CAN, CAN WE PUT LIKE A FENCE, TEMPORARY FENCE SCREENING FENCE? UM, IS THAT GONNA BE AN OPTION FOR SOME FOLKS? BECAUSE WOOD FENCE KIND OF, IF, IF, IF SOMEONE'S WALL FALLS DOWN, CORRECT? UH, I THINK THAT WE'LL GET INTO, WE'LL GET INTO THAT LATER. 
          I'M JUST, I'M JUST KIND YEAH. 
          IN THE WEEDS. 
          YEAH. 
          IS THERE, IS THERE OA, IS THERE OA NON HOAI THINK, I THINK IT'S A DISCUSSION. 
          WE MIGHT HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT I CAN SEE THE FUTURE. 
          I'M OKAY KEEPING THE BUDGET HUNDRED 20. 
          OKAY. 
          NANCY, YOU SAID 100. 
          OKAY. 
          HUNDRED. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE YOU ADD, MARLON? UH, YES SIR. 
          I'VE GOT, UM, TWO MORE. 
          UM, ON THE, THE, UH, ADDING TWO CITY OBSERVED HOLIDAYS. 
          UM, I, I, I THINK WE'VE GOT A LOT OF HOLIDAYS RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, A LOT OF SICK DAYS, UM, VACATION DAYS AND SO FORTH. 
          I THINK IF WE WERE LOOK LOOKING AT OUR COMPARATIVE CITIES, UM, JUST OUR COMPARATIVE CITIES, I SUSPECT WE WOULD BE ALREADY IN LINE WITH 'EM RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, SO MY FOCUS WOULD BE THAT WE, WE KEEP OUR FOCUS ON COMPENSATION. 
          UM, AND, AND MAYBE SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT I, I THINK IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE TO ADD TWO MORE, TWO MORE, UM, PAID HOLIDAY. 
          WELL, I, UM, FOR ME, I THINK ADDING JUNETEENTH AND VETERANS DAY TWO VERY IMPORTANT HOLIDAYS, UM, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          I THINK IT SAYS A LOT FOR THE TOWN. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO THAT. 
          JUST WHETHER, WHETHER ANY OTHER CITIES DID IT OR NOT. 
          TO ME IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE JUNETEENTH HASN'T BEEN A FEDERAL HOLIDAY FOR ALL THAT LONG. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD, WE WE SHOULD CERTAINLY DO THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, IF IT'S GOOD ENOUGH TO BE A FEDERAL HOLIDAY, WE SHOULD CERTAINLY HONOR THAT IN ADDISON TOO. 
          VETERANS DAY. 
          UH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE I'M WITH IT. 
          I, THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THE QUESTIONS, BUT WHAT'S OUR TOTAL PTO PACKAGE LOOK LIKE WITH OUR COMPETITORS? CITIES'? PERSONAL TIME OFF, WHICH IS SICK AND VACATION. 
          AND, AND THE QUESTIONS TODAY IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN, UH, WE SAID, I ALWAYS HAVE THE SUMMARY OF, OF ALL OF OUR OFFERINGS. 
          I DON'T, I MEAN, HE'S JUST SUBMIT COMPAR. 
          YEAH. 
          I THAT'S, HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO THE OTHER CITIES? I MEAN, ARE WE ONE DAY OFF OR WE, WE EVEN, OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR THE HOLIDAYS OR FOR ALL OF PT PT ALL OVER OUR OCCASION AND, UM, NOT INCLUDING THE HOLIDAYS. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, IF, IF WE'RE TWO DAYS ABOVE THE AVERAGE AND THAT'S, THAT MAKES ME DON'T HAVE A CONSIDERATION FOR ON THEN THIS IS AN EASY WAY TO ADD THE, RECOGNIZE IMPORTANT HOLIDAYS 
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AND NOT ADD TO THE BUDGET COST. 
          UM, AND ADDING A, A FRINGE BENEFIT TO EMPLOYEES BUYING TWO HOLIDAYS. 
          I I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. 
          IF WE'RE EQUAL OR OR LESS ON THE PTO PACKAGE WITH OUR PREPARED CITIES, WOULD IT BE BAD TO BE, HAVE A BETTER SITUATION? NO, IT WOULD BE BETTER. 
          SO THERE WE GO. 
          THERE THERE, THERE ARE DIFFERENCES. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING, I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS, THE ONLY COST THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN WE SAY HOLIDAY IS THE OVERTIME FOR PUBLIC, PUBLIC STATE. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          WHEREAS WHEN WE HAVE VACATION, THAT'S, THAT'S A COST THAT CAN BE PAID OUT. 
          I MEAN, THERE IS IT, THE COSTS ARE HIGHER THAN WE HAVE A VACATION. 
          THAT'S GOOD POINT. 
          I'M ON BOARD IN GENERAL WITH THE TWO EXTRA PARTIES. 
          A QUESTION, WHY DON'T WE OBSERVE PRESIDENT'S DAY? IT WAS, I LOOKED AT THE QUESTIONS BACK TO COUNCIL. 
          IT HAPPENS TO BE A FEDERAL HOLIDAY, BUT NOT ONE WE RECOGNIZE. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING VETERAN'S DAY? WELL, I, SO THE DAY, SO VETERANS DAY IN JUNETEENTH, AND IT IS TRUE, IT'S NOT EVERY CITY DOESN'T JUST SAY A FEDERAL HOLIDAY, WE'RE ADOPTING IT AUTOMATICALLY. 
          WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS JUNETEENTH, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S BECOME A FEDERAL HOLIDAY, MANY, MANY CITIES, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE AT A POINT SOON WHERE ALMOST ALL CITIES HAVE ADOPTED THAT AS A FEDERAL HOLIDAY. 
          I MEAN, AS A, AS A HOLIDAY INTERNALLY FOR THE CITY. 
          AND VETERAN STATE IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE HAVE. 
          A LOT OF THE OTHER CITIES HAVE IT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE PICKED THOSE TWO OUT. 
          UM, AND SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO SAY EVERY SINGLE FEDERAL HOLIDAY WE'RE GONNA ABIDE BY, BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT WE COULD TELL. 
          DO WE HAVE HOLIDAYS THAT OTHER CITIES DON'T HAVE? EVERY CITY CAN, I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A MANDATE RIGHT. 
          ON WHAT YOUR HOLIDAYS ARE. 
          SO EVERY CITY CAN PICK THEIR OWN, WHICH ONES THEY WANT TO WANT TO OBSERVE. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE MINOR DISCREPANCIES WHEN YOU LOOK AT CITIES IN, IN ANY INDIVIDUAL CITY, THE MAY. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF CONSISTENCY, OBVIOUSLY. 
          UM, BUT IT'S JUST, IT, IT IS JUST GONNA VARY FROM CITY TO CITY. 
          BUT I THINK WHAT WE SHOWED ON THE ONES THAT THE SURVEY WE HAD WAS, YOU KNOW, 10 TO 12 OR THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOLIDAYS. 
          WE HAVE NINE NOW. 
          SO IS IT $76,000 FOR, I MEAN, IS IS THAT THE COST FOR ALL STAFF OR IS THAT JUST POLICE AND FIRE? IT'S THE POLICE COMPENSATION OVERTIME. 
          IT'S OVERTIME. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S AFFECTED BY. 
          SO WHEN POLICE AND FIRE WORK ON A HOLIDAY, THEY GET OVERTIME. 
          SO IT'S JUST THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS AND IT'S JUST OVERTIME FOR THE WORKERS THAT ACTUALLY WORK TODAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND RIGHT NOW THEY WORK TODAY AND THEY DON'T, THEY JUST GET STRAIGHT PAY. 
          IT'S NOT A HO IT'S NOT A HOLIDAY. 
          SO IT WOULD JUST BE LIKE ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER DAY. 
          SO WE'VE GOT NINE PLUS BIRTHDAY HOLIDAY, RIGHT? YES. 
          YOU SAID NINE. 
          OKAY, SO WE HAVE 10. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT WAS, I'M IN FAVOR. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE YOU SAID, TRYING TO BE COMPETITIVE AND MAYBE BETTER THAN THE REST. 
          I, I KNOW WE TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO COMPETE EVERY DAY WITH, YOU KNOW, OUR SURROUNDING CITIES. 
          UM, AND BECAUSE IT'S VETERANS DAY AND JUNETEENTH DAY, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO CELEBRATE THOSE. 
          I'M IN FAVOR. 
          FAVOR? I'M A FAVOR. 
          I, I SEE IT AS PART OF THE TOTAL COMPENSATION. 
          YOU MENTIONED COMPENSATION AND I DEFINITELY SEE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AS PART OF THE COMPENSATION. 
          SO YEAH, I'M KIND OF WHERE DARREN'S AT. 
          JUST MORE INFORMATION GOING ON LATE TO THE DANCE IN THE, IN THE MISSING YESTERDAY'S PRESENTATION ON ALL THE HOLIDAYS IN THE PACKAGE OF PTO. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T, CAN'T SAY I'M IN OR OUT, I JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT THE PACKAGE OF WHAT WE'RE ALREADY PROVIDING COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING WHY ARE WE, WHY ARE WE NOT OBSERVING PRESIDENTS DAY? BUT YET WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT VETERANS IN JUNETEENTH AS AN EXAMPLE AND WE GIVE BIRTHDAY, BUT YET THAT'S NOT A FEDERAL HOLIDAY ALREADY EITHER. 
          I'D LIKE TO MAYBE SOME MORE BACKGROUND. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK FOR ME, WHEN I COMPARE PRESIDENT'S DAY WITH VETERANS DAY, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE EVER TALKED TO ANYBODY THAT THAT REALLY HAS WARM FEELINGS ABOUT PRESIDENT STATES. 
          IT'S A BANK HOLIDAY, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE REALLY DEEP, DEEP FEELINGS ABOUT VETERAN STATE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. 
          SO I SEE THOSE TWO VERY DIFFERENT HOLIDAYS. 
          IT WAS ANOTHER DAY. 
          EVEN COMBINED IT FROM, FROM WASHINGTON TO LINCOLN BIRTHDAY, BUT WAY BACK IN THE DAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'VE GOT GUIDANCE ON THAT, RIGHT? SAY AGAIN? WE'VE GOT THE VOTE FIGURED OUT, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          CAN WE, OKAY. 
          GET ONE MORE? YES, SIR. 
          UM, I WOULD, WELL I'VE GOT A, I'VE GOT A THOUGHT AND I THINK IT'S FOLLOWED UP WITH A QUESTION FOR JANA, BUT, UM, I WOULD LOVE US TO CONSIDER, UM, FOR OUR EMPLOYEES 
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CONSIDER, UH, FAMILY MEMBERSHIP USE FOR THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          RIGHT NOW OUR EMPLOYEES ARE MEMBERS, BUT THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS ARE NOT, UM, NOT ABLE TO BE MEMBERS. 
          UM, MAYBE THEY CAN USE IT, UM, WITH GUEST FEES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GIVE TO OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          UM, I THINK THEY WOULD APPRECIATE IT. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S VERY SOCIAL AND I THINK IT WOULD, IT WOULD JUST ADD ANOTHER ITEM ON OUR COMPENSATION MATRIX THAT MAYBE OUR COMPETITION IS, IS NOT ON. 
          IS THAT A BUDGET CONSIDERATION? AND, AND YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT'S THE OTHER PART IS, IS IF WE'RE OPEN TO THIS, I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM JANA AS FAR AS WHAT EXTRA, IF ANYTHING THAT MIGHT COST. 
          I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          WE MAY GET A BREAK ON OUR HEALTH INSURANCE. 
          I, I'M NOT KIDDING POSSIBLE , DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. 
          I BELIEVE THE QUESTION WAS IF WE OPENED, UM, MEMBERSHIP AT THE ADOLESCENT AND ATHLETIC CLUB, WHICH JUST THE EMPLOYEE, ALSO THE FAMILY MEMBERS AND IF THEY'RE BEING ADDED COST FOR THAT. 
          UM, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW A LOT OF OUR PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, SUCH AS SUMMER CAMP WANNA TAKE YOGA, UM, OR GO ON A SENIOR TRIP. 
          THEY HAVE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH, SO YES, MEMBERSHIP IS FREE. 
          UM, WELL WE, IT'S $10 ONE TIME. 
          I SHOULDN'T SAY IT'S FREE. 
          UM, BUT THAT GETS YOU IN THE BUILDING. 
          IT GETS YOU ACCESS TO THE BUILDING, BUT IT DOESN'T GUARANTEE YOU ACCESS TO THE PROGRAMS. UM, I DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, UM, RECENTLY AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT AS IT COULD BE A BENEFIT IN SOME ASPECTS BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME RESIDENTS THAT HAVE ASKED FOR CLASSES, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S HARD FOR US TO FILL THOSE CLASSES AND MAKE THEM. 
          UM, BECAUSE FOR THE INSTRUCTOR TO COME TO ADDISON AND TEACH THAT CLASS, THEY NEED TO BRING IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF REVENUE. 
          AND SO THEY NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THAT CLASS. 
          AND SO IF WE WIDEN OUR GOAL TO ALLOW, UM, MORE MEMBERS, OUR FAMILY MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE CLASSES, THAT COULD BE A BENEFIT. 
          UM, BUT THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED IF YOU'RE GONNA SIGN UP FOR YOGA OR ZUMBA OR SUMMER CAMP, THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND THAT COMES FROM THE PERSON THAT'S PARTICIPATING IN IT. 
          SO IT'S NOT ON THE TOWN, IT WOULD BE ON THE PARTICIPANT. 
          UM, ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO, UM, SUGGEST THAT WE CONSIDER THIS IS I DON'T WANNA GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, FITNESS WING SEEMS A LITTLE CROWDED OR MY YOGA CLASS I'D LIKE TO GO TO IS NOW CROWDED 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT MORE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD SET SOME RESTRICTIONS JUST LIKE WE DO WITH GUESTS. 
          IT'S SUMMER CAMP THAT RESIDENTS ARE ALLOWED TO SIGN UP FIRST AND THEN THERE'S A DEADLINE AND AFTER THAT DEADLINE THEY GUESS, AND THEN THE EMPLOYEES FAMILY MEMBERS. 
          AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP KIND OF KEEP THAT BALANCE IN CHECK JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, ONE OF THE OTHER CHALLENGES WE'VE SEEN IS OUR SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY DISCUSSED BRINGING THIS TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          THERE REALLY IS A NEED TO BRING THAT CAMP PROGRAM INTO TWO AGE GROUPS. 
          UM, AND TO DO THAT, TO SPLIT IT, WE NEED MORE PARTICIPATION IN CAMPERS BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TWO 11 YEAR OLDS IN SUMMER CAMP BY YOURSELF, IT CAN GET PRETTY BORING REALLY QUICKLY. 
          AND BY OPENING THAT UP TO EMPLOYEES, THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN SUMMER CAMP, THAT ACTUALLY MIGHT ALLOW US, UM, TO SERVE IN A BETTER WAY, SERVE OUR RESIDENTS. 
          UM, THERE PROBABLY WOULD BE SOME COSTS ASSOCIATED ADDING EVEN ANOTHER CAMP COUNSELOR OR TWO ONTO THAT. 
          BUT THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD. 
          WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED TRYING TO SPLIT THAT SUMMER CAMP INTO AGE GROUPS ALREADY. 
          AND SO THIS MIGHT HELP US BRING SOME REVENUE IN TO HELP COVER THOSE COSTS OF THOSE ADDITIONAL INSTRUCTORS. 
          IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE THING, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          THE SUMMER CAMP IS JUST A GREAT EXAMPLE. 
          UM, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO, HOW WE END UP ON THIS, I WOULD SAY A LOT OF OUR EMPLOYEES, AS WE KNOW, LIVE QUITE A BIT AWAY. 
          SO IT MAY NOT BE LIKELY THEY COME TO THE ATHLETIC CLUB EVERY DAY, THEY'RE NOT HERE ALL THE TIME. 
          AND CERTAINLY IT'S POSSIBLE AND FOLKS WHO LIVE CLOSER COULD. 
          BUT I THINK THE SUMMER CAMP THAT IS, THAT WOULD BE A BIG BENEFIT, RIGHT? IF WE COULD HAVE OUR FOLK, THEY'RE COMING HERE ANYWAY IN THE SUMMER, THEY'RE PROBABLY SOMETHING TO DO WITH THEIR KIDS. 
          THEY COULD DROP 'EM OFF AND TAKE PART OF THE SUMMER CAMP. 
          UM, SO I MEAN, I THINK IT'S ALL GOOD DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK THAT CERTAINLY IS A BIG BENEFIT OF BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THOSE CAMPS AND PROVIDE THAT AS A RESOURCE TO OUR, TO OUR STAFF. 
          IS THE SUMMER CAMP SELF-SUSTAINING 
          [06:30:02]
THE SUMMER CAMP RIGHT NOW IS NOT SELF-SUSTAINABLE? UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE AFTER WE FINISH OUR DIRECT PLAN DEDICATION STUDY CONVERSATION TO TALK ABOUT OUR FEES FOR SUMMER CAMP. 
          UM, WE'VE NEVER RAISED THOSE FEES. 
          AND I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS PAYING FOR SUMMER CAMPERS AND NOW I'VE GOT COLLEGE STUDENTS, UM, WHAT I WAS PAYING WAS ABOUT $10 MORE A WEEK, WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY CHARGING . 
          UM, AND SO WE DO NEED TO REVISIT THOSE FEES AND LOOK AT MAKING 'EM A LITTLE MORE IN LINE. 
          I THINK WE'LL STILL BE BELOW THE INDUSTRY STANDARD, BUT WE CAN AFFORD TO LET THEM GO UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          AND THEN SUMMER CAMP WOULD BE . 
          YEAH. 
          AND IF IT IS NOT, IT'S NOT FAR OFF. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO WHAT I'M HEARING THOUGH, THIS DOESN'T SOUND LIKE REALLY IT HAS BUDGET IMPLICATIONS THOUGH. 
          IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT OUTSIDE OF PROGRAMS AND CLASSES THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT IT DOESN'T REALLY, IT REALLY WOULDN'T AFFECT THE BUDGET. 
          I DO NOT SEE IT HAVING SIGNIFICANT BUDGET CHANGES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO FOR ME, I MEAN, I'M FINE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A POLICY ISSUE, NOT A BUDGET ISSUE. 
          MAYBE WE SHOULD DO ANOTHER TIME. 
          I'M IN FAVOR OF IT AND I, I'M NOT, I'M NOT IN FAVOR THE GIFT, BUT I'M, BUT I'M NOT, I COULD BE PERSUADED. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, BUT, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS TIME TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION. 
          I AGREE. 
          I AGREE. 
          UH, WELL I'VE HEARD MORE THE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO WE'LL HAVE A WORK SESSION ON THIS AND BRING ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE, MARLEY? UH, NO, THAT'S WHAT I, OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? I'VE GOT ONE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT, BUT I, UH, ON THE, UM, ON THE POLICE REPORT, UH, I HAD ASKED ABOUT THE STATS FOR THE PUBLIC REPORTING THOSE THINGS. 
          WHERE DOES THAT, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS A BUDGET ITEM OR CAN THAT BE SOMETHING THAT'S WORTH HERE FOR, UH, VISIBILITY ON THAT? IT, I, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I I WOULDN'T CALL IT A BUDGET ITEM 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE MAPPING SYSTEM RIGHT NOW TO SAY WE NEED $30,000 IN DOLLARS TO DO IT. 
          UM, THEY KNOW AS, AS SHE VINCENT SAID, THEY'RE WORKING ON IT INTERNALLY RIGHT NOW. 
          WHAT I WOULD SAY IS AS THEY'RE DOING THAT, WE CAN LOOK AT ALL THE ALTERNATIVES AND IF THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION THAT COSTS MORE MONEY AND WE CAN NEED TO COME FORWARD WITH IT, WE WILL. 
          UM, BUT WE CERTAINLY COULD FOLLOW UP REGARDLESS AND GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE AND WE CAN TRACK THOSE AND ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS WE COMMUNICATE POSSIBLY IN A WORK SESSION IF IT MAKES SENSE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, WITH REGARD TO THE UTILITY RATE INCREASE AGAIN THIS YEAR, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHAT, UH, WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          WE HAVE THE MONEY AND THE, AND THE FUND TO ABSORB THAT, NOT HAVE THE INCREASE AGAIN THIS YEAR. 
          I'D LIKE TO JUST ASK FOR COUNCIL THIS OR HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH, RIGHT NOW IT'S 5.5% AND LAST YEAR IT'S FOUR HALF PERCENT AND THEY SAID IT APPROXIMATELY $178 DIFFERENCE. 
          WE CAN IF, IF, IF WE ALSO GIVE MORE INFORMATION TOO, BECAUSE I WOULDN'T WANNA MAKE, WE, WE WOULD WANNA PROBABLY, IF WE WERE GONNA DO THAT, BRING A MODEL BACK 'CAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A COMPOUNDING EFFECT RIGHT. 
          IF YOU FIVE THIS YEAR. 
          BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY DO IT BACK TO MODEL IF THAT'S WHAT I'D BE. 
          I'M, I'M, I'M RELUCTANT TO SAY YES OR NO WITHOUT DIGGING IN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. 
          YEAH. 
          MY CONCERN IS WE'RE WE'RE JUST PASSING ALONG OUR COSTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IF THAT'S IT, THAT'S FINE. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M INCLINED, I'M INCLINED TO KEEP IT UNLESS I COULD BE PERSUADED OTHERWISE. 
          YEAH. 
          CALL THE TRADE WATER DISTRICT IF TO LOWER THE RATE . 
          NO, I'M, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE RATE INCREASE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, IT'S UNFORTUNATE. 
          I MEAN THAT AFFECTS ALL OF US, BUT, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST PASSING ALONG THAT COST, UM, I'M OKAY WITH IT. 
          I WAS JUST, UH, CONSIDERING FUND BALANCE, JUST THE UTILITY, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW? YES. 
          YEAH, JUST THE UTILITY FUND. 
          THE WATERING UTILITY, YEAH. 
          UTILITY FUND. 
          YEAH. 
          WATER AND SEWER UTILITY. 
          YEAH. 
          I CERTAINLY, REGARDLESS IN THE, IN THE FOLLOW UP DOCUMENT, WE CAN SHOW KIND OF A MODEL OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'D BE THAT. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I DO NOT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? MY ONLY THOUGHTS, I, I HOPE WE CAN FIND A WAY TO DO THE, UH, POOL FENCING THIS YEAR, NOW THAT WE'VE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT THAT FORWARD. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHY IT CONCERNS ME SO MUCH, BUT IT DOES. 
          SO I'M HOPING WE CAN GET THAT DONE THIS YEAR. 
          UH, SO WE, WE ALREADY, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT $30,000. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA PLAN ON DOING, STARTING THAT NOW AND BRINGING IT FORWARD AS A MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENT. 
          SO LET'S START THE DESIGN IN THIS FISCAL YEAR 
          [06:35:01]
AND GO AND GET ROLLING. 
          REALLY GOOD. 
          THAT SEEMS IMPORTANT TO ME TOO. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE ONLY THING, AND THIS CAN BE AN OFFLINE CONVERSATION, BUT WE DIDN'T TALK MUCH IN THIS BUDGET YEAR ABOUT ENHANCING CROSSWALKS. 
          UM, AND I, I, I REALLY, REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          YOU KNOW, IF YOU LISTEN TO DISCUSSIONS ON THE CPA, I MEAN, EVERYTHING EVOLVES AROUND CONNECTIVITY AND I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A TRAIL SYSTEM NOW THAT REALLY NEEDS BETTER CROSSWALKS. 
          SO I REALLY HOPE THIS UPCOMING YEAR WE DO A DEEP DIVE INTO THAT. 
          I ABSOLUTELY, AND I DO THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR SHANNON JUST TOUCH ON SOME OF THE CROSSWALK PROJECTS THAT ARE ONGOING. 
          JUST TO GIVE AN UPDATE REAL QUICK WOULD BE GOOD. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL POINT OUT IS WE HAVE AN HSIF GRANT OF $1.9 MILLION SINCE MOVING FORWARD. 
          PART OF THAT IS TO REDO THE ARAPAHOE INTERSECTION, BUT IT'S ALSO TO ADD THE RFPS, THE RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASHING BEACONS TO SEVERAL OTHER INTERSECTIONS AS WELL AS THE HAWK SIGNAL CROSS MIDWAY. 
          WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT DOING SOME PILING ENHANCEMENTS ON THE REDING TRAIL CROSSINGS TO BREAKS AND VISIBIL TO THOSE. 
          WE'RE TALKING TO SOME VENDORS RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ADD SPOTLIGHTS ONTO THE RFPS SO THAT WHEN YOU APPROACH AT NIGHT, IT ILLUMINATES YOU. 
          WE ABSOLUTELY NEED THOSE. 
          YEAH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S CUTTING EDGE. 
          IT'S NOT ON THE MARKET YET, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THOSE VENDORS, TRYING TO GET THAT OUT THERE. 
          WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT SOME THERMAL FLASH. 
          THIS WOULD BE THE, WHAT DID YOU CALL IT? THE RF SO THE RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASHING BEACONS THAT ARE ON THE REDING TRAIL WHERE IT CROSSES PROTON AND BELTWAY. 
          BELTWAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          WE WOULD, WE WOULD PUT SOME LIGHTING OUT THERE. 
          SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY WORKING ON. 
          UH, JUAN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DIRECTOR HAS BEEN TALKING TO VENDORS ABOUT DOING IT. 
          WE HAVE TO UPGRADE THE SOLAR PANELS A LITTLE BIT, MAKE THEM BIGGER, BUT IT'LL OPERATE JUST LIKE YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE HIT THE BUTTON, THE LIGHT COMES ON AND ILLUMINATES YOU AND THE STREETS SOMEWHAT TO BRING SOME VISIBILITY TO IT. 
          LOOKING AT SOME PREFORMED THERMOPLASTIC. 
          IT'S UM, YOU CAN GET 'EM ANY DESIGNS YOU WANT TO ENHANCE THOSE CROSSWALKS WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THERE. 
          SO THEY DON'T JUST LOOK LIKE FOR PAVERS. 
          IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE TO HELP DRAW YOUR EYE TO IT DOWN GOING INTO A DIFFERENT AREA. 
          YEAH, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO DO SOME INNOVATIVE IDEAS LIKE THAT HELP MAKE THOSE CROSSWALKS SAFER AND IF IT WORKS AND WE GET POSITIVE RESULTS, WE'LL START IMPLEMENTING IN MORE LOCATIONS. 
          KIND OF LIKE THE, UH, THE, UH, MEDIAN WE PUT IN ON PROTON, UH, FOR THE STOP SIGNS. 
          WE'RE GONNA START DOING A COUPLE MORE OF THOSE NEXT YEAR 'CAUSE THAT SEEMS TO HAVE HELPED. 
          SO TRY 'EM OUT. 
          IF IT WORKS, WE'LL START GOING MORE AND MORE. 
          THAT'S FANTASTIC. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS SHANNON. 
          ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY ON THIS? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT YOU DON'T LIKE, WANNA DO DIFFERENT, WANNA DO MORE OR LESS? NOT AT ALL. 
          NOW IS THE TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT ELSE YOU NEED FROM US THEN, DAVID? THAT'S IT. 
          WE, UM, WE'LL DO A, THERE'S NOT TOO MANY FOLLOW UP ITEMS, BUT WE HAVE, WELL I KNOW WE HAVE A LIST AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE QUESTIONS. 
          SO, UM, WELL, WE'LL GET A DOCUMENT BACK OUT, KEEP IT, WE'RE GONNA BASE THAT ONE THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY. 
          WE'RE GONNA KEEP UPDATING THAT AS WE GET QUESTIONS THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          SO YOU HAVE ONE KIND OF MASTER DOCUMENT WITH ALL OF OUR, ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          UM, NOT ON TUESDAY, BUT THE NEXT AUGUST MEETING WE'LL JUST HAVE A WORK SESSION THAT COULD LAST 30 SECONDS. 
          IT COULD LAST AS LONG AS YOU WANT IT TO LAST. 
          JUST AS A PLACEHOLDER TO HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP DISCUSSIONS ON THE BUDGET AS WE GEAR UP FOR THOSE DATES IF STEVEN LAID OUT. 
          IF THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? I WAS GONNA SAY, OH, GO AHEAD. 
          I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET A LIST, MAYBE THIS IS, I DON'T KNOW, OF, OF EACH OF THE STAFF AND WHAT THEIR CURRENT PAY IS. 
          DOES THAT DETAIL LIST LIKE THAT AS OPPOSED TO THESE LUMP SUM NUMBERS THAT WE'VE GOT SEVEN UNITS OR 22 UNIT AND THEN HERE'S THE PRICE BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, LIKE IF IT'S GOT VACATION, UH, INSURANCE, DENTAL, UH, FICA MATCH. 
          I, I CAN'T TELL WHAT THAT NUMBER IS AND I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS. 
          IS THAT OKAY TO SEE THAT? YES. 
          YEAH, WE CAN GET THAT, THAT FOR YOU. 
          AND I WOULD ALSO OFFER, IF YOU FEEL LIKE WE CAN ALSO SIT DOWN AND JUST HAVE A ONE-ON-ONE WHERE WE GO THROUGH KIND OF, 'CAUSE THERE IS MORE. 
          ALL THOSE ARE SUMMARIES, RIGHT? THERE'S LINE ITEMS SO WE CAN SERVE . 
          YEAH, I WAS JUST DOING SOME MATH AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST WANNA JUST SEE. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE 4% INCREASES IN EXTRA HOLIDAY PAY. 
          I JUST WANNA SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE EARNING NOW. 
          'CAUSE I CAN'T TELL FROM THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO DAVID AND STEVEN AND ALL THE STAFF HERE TONIGHT PUTTING UP WITH US IN OUR QUESTIONS. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MARATHON MAN. 
          STEVEN, TONIGHT, RIGHT? 
          [06:40:02]
IT'S 8 23. 
          WE ARE GER TONIGHT. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY. 
          HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
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