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          [1. Call Meeting to Order and Announce that a Quorum is Present.]
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          OKAY, IT IS FIVE O'CLOCK THAT WE WILL CALL THE ORDER OF THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 25TH. 
          WE DO HAVE A FORUM PRESENT WITH ALL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING. 
          UH, 
          [2. Citizen Comments on the Consent Agenda Items. This item allows citizens to speak on any item listed on the Consent Agenda prior to its consideration. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the beginning of this item.]
GOING TO DIRECT TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, CITIZEN COMMENTS ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM. 
          THIS IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA PRIOR TO ITS CONSIDERATION. 
          AND CITIZEN OF COMMENT LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. 
          AND I DO HAVE ONE COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARD BY TRICIA STEWART. 
          AND I'LL ASK TRICIA, COME TO THE LECTURE AND, UH, GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES. 
          HI, THIS IS STEWART, UH, 1 5 7 5 5. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          I AM NOT, I DON'T HAVE A PROFESSIONAL PRESENTATION. 
          I'M JUST SHARING WITH YOU SOME THINGS THAT I READ THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT AND THAT I THINK THAT PERHAPS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN ADDISON, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST REPRESENTING MY COMMUNITY, THOUGH. 
          YOU'RE REPRESENTING ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN ADDISON. 
          AND THE LAST TIME I CHECKED ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN ADDISON BREATHE AIR AND NEED WATER AND APPRECIATE HAVING SHADE REDUCED TEMPERATURES. 
          SO I HOPE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT I AM NOT JUST SPEAKING FOR, FOR MYSELF, BUT FOR ALL OF THE, THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN ADDISON. 
          BUT, UM, I'M VERY CONCERNED, ESPECIALLY FROM THE LAST PLANNING AND ZONE MEETING, THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS OF REDUCING , THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS OF, UM, TREE REMOVAL ARE NOT IN CONSIDERATION. 
          WE'RE CONSIDERING, UH, FINANCIAL IMPACTS WE'RE CONSIDERING. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, HOW PRETTY THINGS ARE GONNA LOOK. 
          I WILL NOT, THE, THERE ARE SOME GORGEOUS PLANS OUT THERE. 
          I MEAN, THEY LOOK AMAZING. 
          THEY LOOK BEAUTIFUL, BUT WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THE HEALTH AND THE SAFETY OF ALL OF US. 
          AND SO, UM, I'M GOING TO TRY TO TALK QUICKLY. 
          IT'S, IT'S BEEN A CRAZY DAY, BUT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE WITH YOU. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL LOOK AT THIS STUFF, BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST LOVE GIVING YOU INFORMATION. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE READING IT, BUT, UH, FIGURE TWO, THIS CHART RIGHT HERE SHOWS THE IMPACT OF THREE TREES, THREE TREES IN AN URBAN AREA, AND THE AMOUNT OF, UH, POLLUTION THAT WAS REDUCED, AS WELL AS HOW IT RE UH, IT HELPED WITH ENERGY EFFICIENCY. 
          AND SO IT SAVED, UM, $650 PER HOUR BETWEEN ONE AND 2:00 PM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU. 
          IT'S PRETTY DARN HOT OUTSIDE. 
          AND ONE OF THE GREATEST ASSETS I HAVE, I I, I DON'T HAVE A CLOCK, SO IN THE OTHER ROOM, I HAVE A CLOCK I'M GOING TO VIEW. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          UM, BUT I, I, LIVING IN ADDISON CIRCLE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER WALKED IN ADDISON CIRCLE A HUNDRED DEGREE HEAT, AND YOU CAN TELL THE TEMPERATURE DIFFERENCE, RIGHT? BUT I'D LIKE TO LEAVE WITH YOU, UM, AN INFORMATION AS WELL AS ASK A QUESTION. 
          THERE ARE SOME FREE SOFTWARES. 
          I SEE THAT YOU'RE EVALUATING SOME SOFTWARES. 
          THERE'S SOME FREE SOFTWARE AVAILABLE BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, FOREST SERVICE, AND THE I TREE SOFTWARE THAT WILL GIVE YOU THE, A TREE'S IMPACT ON OZONE LEVELS BASED ON THE TYPE OF TREE AND THE, THE AMOUNT OF POLLUTION THAT IT POSSESSES. 
          THIS IS A FREE SOFTWARE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE USING IT OR NOT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE WE'RE DOING ANY KIND OF CONSIDERATION OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, NOT WANTING TO TURN AWAY DEVELOPERS BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANNA SCARE 'EM AWAY. 
          BUT I DO WANNA SHOW YOU HERE THE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL AS WELL AS MONETARY VALUE. 
          THERE'S A HUGE MONETARY VALUE OF MATURE TREES OVER YOUNG TREES. 
          YES, WE'RE GOING TO REPLANT TREES, BUT ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT IN THE PROPOSAL, I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO MAINTAIN THEM, BUT I PERSONALLY WOULD RATHER HAVE, RATHER THAN HAVE NEW ART OR SIGNS OR THIS OR THAT, I'D RATHER HAVE CLEAN AIR. 
          SO IF, IF, IF THAT COUNTS FOR ANYTHING AS TO WHERE BUDGETS GO, I I SAVE THE TREES ARE A HUGE ASSET THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF. 
          AND IF A HUNDRED PE PER INCHES ARE REMOVED, THEN WE NEED TO REPLACE THAT WITH A HUNDRED PE PER INCHES. 
          NOT FOR MAINTENANCE, NOT FOR SOFTWARE, NOT FOR ANYTHING ELSE. 
          AND I ALSO HAD A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE, UH, INDUSTRY STANDARDS FOR THE, UH, SPACING OF CHEAT TREES. 
          I COUNTED BETWEEN THE, THE TREES AND ADDISON CIRCLE. 
          THERE'S ABOUT 20 FEET BETWEEN EACH TREE AND ADDISON CIRCLE. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT EVERY PERSON THAT I RUN INTO IN ADDISON CIRCLE GOES, I LOVE THESE TREES. 
          THEY ARE SO GREAT. 
          WELL, GUESS WHAT? OUR NEW DEVELOPMENTS AREN'T MAYBE GONNA HAVE THOSE ANYMORE. 
          AND DOES THAT APPLY TO SHADE TREES OR MENTAL TREES OR WHAT KIND OF TREES? AND, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THAT STANDARD APPLIES AND TO WHAT KIND OF TREE. 
          SO AM I OUT OF TIME? VALENCIA, I'M SO SORRY. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. 
          I'D LOVE TO LEAVE WITH YOU SOME INFORMATION. 
          OH, ANYHOW, I, YEAH. 
          LOOK INTO THIS, UM, PM 2.5, THE SILENT KILLER AND, AND MICROSCOPIC PARTICLES THAT GET INTO OUR LUNGS AND KILL US. 
          SO I THINK THIS IS ALL PRETTY IMPORTANT INFORMATION. 
          SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. 
          OOPS. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE I DON'T HAVE, OKAY, THANK 
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YOU. 
          I, YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU CAN LEAVE THE WHATEVER YOU WANT. 
          WILLING. 
          I'LL, I'LL, LET ME JUST TAKE OUT SOMETHING, MAKE SURE I DON'T HAVE ANY EMBARRASSING INFORMATION, PARENT THAT'S NOT LIKE RELATED TO THE TOPIC. 
          BUT THANK YOU GUYS. 
          I KNOW THAT THIS IS A HARD DECISION. 
          I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT TO, TO DECIDE. 
          I, I REALLY THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE AS I KNOW IT'S NOT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, TRISHA. 
          OKAY, ITEM NUMBER 
          [3. Council Member Clarification Requests Regarding Consent Agenda Items. ]
THREE, COUNCIL MEMBER CLARIFICATION REQUEST REGARDING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION NEEDED FROM THE COUNCIL ON CONSENT ITEMS? MAYOR, MAYOR, I JUST ONE FOR, UH, ITEM C AND IT WAS, UH, RELATED TO, UM, REAPPOINTED GARY SLAGEL. 
          I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF WE HAD ANY UPDATES ON UNIVERSITY PARK AND HIGHLAND PARK AT WHAT THEY, UH, VOTED AT THEIR COUNCIL MEETING THAT THEY HAD, I THINK ON THE 18TH. 
          YEP. 
          UM, YES. 
          UH, THEY BOTH HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS. 
          THEY'VE REAPPOINTED MR. SLAGEL AND, UM, HAVE TAKEN THEIR RESOLUTIONS COUNSEL AND GOTTEN THEM APPROVED. 
          PERFECT. 
          PERFECT FOR THE LAST ONES. 
          PERFECT. 
          PERFECT. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MARTIN. 
          ANY, ANY OTHERS? ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. 
          LOOKING FORWARD TO CONSENT. 
          MOVING RIGHT THROUGH IT WHEN THAT TIME COMES. 
          ITEM THREE A COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ANY QUESTIONS THAT WERE SENT IN FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS TO STAFF REGARDING THE ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. 
          AND THEN PUT INTO A DOCUMENT SENT OUT TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          AND IT'S ALSO BEEN UPLOADED TO THE WEBSITE. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY GOES TO THE TOWN WEBSITE, FINDS THE AGENDA, THERE WILL BE A LINK THERE SO THEY CAN DOWNLOAD THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US. 
          ALRIGHT, ITEM 
          [a.  Present and discuss progress on the Parkland Dedication and Development Fee Study.  ]
NUMBER FOUR, WORK SESSION REPORTS. 
          FOUR A PRESENT AND DISCUSS PROGRESS ON PARKLAND DEDICATION AND DEVELOPMENT FEE STUDY MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          JANET TIDWELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. 
          UM, THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TONIGHT IS KIND OF A WORK IN PROGRESS OF WHERE WE ARE. 
          WE'RE WRAPPING UP THE FINAL STEPS OF OUR PARK PLAN, DEDICATION AND DEVELOPMENT FEE STUDY. 
          UM, THIS STUDY WAS FIRST TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE WERE PLANNING FOR THE PARK RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN, AND WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL. 
          THERE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE IN THERE THAT AS ADDISON'S POPULATION GROWS, THAT WE SHOULD PUT EFFORTS IN PLACE TO CONTINUE TO GROW OUR LEVEL OR CONTINUE OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE OF OUR PARKS TO RESIDENTS IN ADDISON. 
          IN APRIL OF 2023, UM, WE COUNCIL AWARDED A CONTRACT WITH 110% TO BEGIN DEVELOPMENT OF THIS STUDY. 
          UM, AND FUNDS WERE PLACED IN OUR BUDGET FOR THIS. 
          AND THEN IN JULY OF 2023, COUNSEL APPOINTED AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, TO HELP KIND OF STEWARD THE PROJECT. 
          AND THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS BEEN HIGHLY ENGAGED AROUND THE PROCESS SINCE, PROVIDED A LOT OF INSIGHT AND FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. 
          I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT JUST TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE 'EM IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER. 
          I THINK IT'S THE ORDER THAT THEY WERE APPOINTED, BUT I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE LAUREN SMART, RON WHITEHEAD, ADAM BORDEN, ADRIAN WRIGHT, KEN PITMAN, MICHAEL O' NEIL, LOGAN NEVIN, AND JESSICA AZAR FOR THEIR TIME, UM, THAT THEY SPENT MEETING WITH US CONTINUALLY THROUGHOUT THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, WE DID HAVE A FINAL WRAP UP MEETING WITH THEM TODAY AND THEY STRONGLY, UM, SAID THAT THEY SUPPORT THE DIRECTION THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING IN. 
          AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL TO KNOW THIS. 
          I'M GOING TO INVITE OUR CONSULTANT FROM 110% FARER TO COME UP HERE AND MAKE A PRESENTATION TO YOU ON THE REPORT. 
          I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT TYPICALLY MOST CITIES CAN TAKE THE FORMULA, UM, THAT IS PRETTY STANDARD IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION INDUSTRY. 
          FER, YOU CAN COME ON UP HERE AS I'M SAYING THIS. 
          UM, AND THEY PLUG IN SOME NUMBERS ABOUT THEIR CITY AND IT KIND OF SPITS OUT FOR YOU WHAT YOUR FEES NEED TO BE. 
          WELL, OUR PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN THAT EASY BECAUSE ADDISON IS VERY UNIQUE. 
          WE'RE PRETTY BUILT OUT. 
          WE HAVE A SMALL POPULATION AND WE'RE VERY DENSE. 
          AND SO WE'VE HAD TO REALLY DIVE IN AND LOOK FOR SOMETHING THAT'S VERY TAILORED TO WHAT WOULD SUIT OUR NEEDS. 
          BUT IT WOULD ALSO ATTRACT DEVELOPMENT AND BE A DEVELOPER FRIENDLY AND NOT PERSUADE DEVELOPER. 
          AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO BALANCE THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU BASED ON THAT CRITERIA. 
          UM, WITH THAT SAID, I WANNA HAND IT OVER TO FARRELL SO SHE CAN SHARE WITH YOU THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE BEEN. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 
          MAKE SURE I GO THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SO AS JANA MENTIONED, UM, I'M CAROL BULL. 
          I'M WITH 110%. 
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AND, UM, I'VE BEEN THE PROJECT MANAGER LEADING THIS STUDY, UH, FOR, FOR YOUR TOWN. 
          UM, AS JANA MENTIONED TOO, THIS CAME ABOUT AS PART OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN. 
          THAT WAS IN 2019. 
          AND, UH, I'M GOING TO BE WALKING YOU THROUGH KIND OF HOW WE GOT TO THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT WE LOOKED AT, THE CONSIDERATIONS INSIDE OF ADDISON, UH, AND BASICALLY WHY, UM, WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THIS OR NOT, RIGHT. 
          OR QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE AND SHOW YOU HOW IT WOULD APPLY TO SOME PREVIOUS PROJECTS IN ADDISON. 
          SO HOPEFULLY THAT KIND OF CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF AN APPLE TO APPLE COMPARISON. 
          UM, SOME OF THE IDEAS IN THIS SLIDE PRESENTATION ARE DIRECTLY FROM COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS FROM THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW. 
          WE, WE THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL AND BENEFICIAL BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS KIND OF HAVE FRESH EYES. 
          UH, THE PARKLAND, UM, FEE STUDY ADVISORY COMMITTEE WE'VE MET WITH REGULARLY OVER ABOUT THE PAST, UM, YEAR TO BRING THEM ALONG IN THIS STUDY AND ALL OF ITS COMPONENTS. 
          I ALSO TOOK THE TIME TO DEVELOP, UM, TO INTERVIEW MEMBERS OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, UM, SORRY, THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS THAT DO PLANNING AND DESIGN. 
          UM, AND I'VE MET WITH A COUPLE OF OTHER PARKS AND OPERATION DIRECTORS THAT HAVE ADOPTED THESE TYPES OF FEES. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAD REGULAR MEETINGS. 
          THE TOWN, UM, STAFF AS WELL AS A TOWN STAFF, UH, PROJECT TEAM WAS CREATED. 
          SO WHAT ARE THE TWO FEES AND OR WHAT IS THE PROJECT? WHEN WE SAY, UM, PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT PIECE STUDY, IT'S REALLY TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT COMPONENTS. 
          THE FIRST IS UPDATING THE PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO THIS IS WHEN A DEVELOPER BRINGS A PROJECT IN AND THEY WANT TO DEDICATE LAND, OR THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DEDICATE LAND THAT IS SPECIFIC TO USE FOR PARKS RECREATION. 
          IF THEY ARE UNABLE TO DEDICATE THAT LAND, OR IT IS LAND THAT IS LESS THAN ONE ACRE. 
          WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA THAT'S USEFUL FOR THE LAND, FOR PARKS AND RECREATION TO CONTINUE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          THEN THEY WILL BE, UM, ALLOWED TO DO A FEE IN LIEU OF LAND. 
          UM, THE SECOND FEE, SO THIS IS A SEPARATE FEE, WOULD BE A, TO CREATE A PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE. 
          THIS WOULD BE A ONE TIME PAYMENT FOR NEW AND REDEVELOPED PROPERTIES TO ENHANCE PUBLIC PARKS AND RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES. 
          SO BOTH OF THESE FEES, UM, ARE ONE TIME THEY ARE KEPT SEPARATE. 
          SO YOUR FINANCE DIRECTOR HAS A LOVELY PRIVILEGE OF HELPING NAVIGATE THOSE AS THEY COME IN. 
          UM, AND THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF SIMILAR USES. 
          AND THEN ONE MAJOR DIFFERENCE. 
          AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE KEPT SEPARATE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR. 
          IT HAS TO BE REPORTED OUT ONCE THEY ARE USED. 
          SO THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FEE, OR THE FEE IN LIEU OF LAND WILL SUPPORT THE TOWN'S EFFORTS IN MAINTAINING CURRENT LEVELS OF SERVICE. 
          AND THE FUNDS ARE PRIMARILY USED FOR LAND ACQUISITION. 
          THEY CAN ALSO BE USED FOR DEVELOPMENT CONSTRUCTION OR RENOVATION AND IMPROVEMENTS. 
          THE SECOND FEE, THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE, ARE OFTEN USED FOR PURPOSES RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO DEVELOPMENT. 
          NO SURPRISE. 
          UM, BUT THE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR LAND ACQUISITION DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION, RENOVATION IMPROVEMENT, AND FOR NEW AMENITIES OR, UM, FACILITIES AND FEATURES. 
          SO THAT'S ONE, ONE KEY DIFFERENCE IN HOW AND WHY THE FUNDS WOULD BE USED. 
          WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF IDEAS OF WHAT'S IN PLANS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY ADOPTED. 
          THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN FROM 2021, UM, AS WELL AS THE PARTS AND OPERATION OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN OF 2019 A FUNDS THAT HIPAA BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT DON'T HAVE A PERMANENT FUNDING SOURCE. 
          UM, SO THE FIRST ONE IS IN THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN. 
          THERE'S ABOUT $38 MILLION. 
          UM, TOTALLY, UH, IF THAT PLAN WAS CREATED TO ITS FULLEST POTENTIAL OF CONNECTING PEOPLE HERE IN ADDISON, UM, WE KNOW THAT IS ONE KEY COMPONENT THAT RESIDENTS WANT. 
          THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE WATCHABLE, BIKEABLE, MOVABLE, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, AND THERE'S ALSO FUNDS IDENTIFIED IN THE 2019 MASTER PLAN, ABOUT $56 MILLION, UM, OF TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WOULD ENHANCE THE PARKS AND RECREATION AMENITIES. 
          THE THIRD ITEM WE'VE LISTED ON HERE IS TO IMPROVE OUTDOOR, UM, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR PARKS. 
          SO AGAIN, SO THIS IS KIND OF THAT NEW COMPONENT THAT THE ONE FEE WOULD BE USED FOR JUST THE DEVELOPMENT FEE. 
          SO IT COULD, SOME POSSIBLE USES WOULD BE, UM, AT THE ATHLETIC ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB TO, UM, HAVE A GROUP FITNESS CLASS AT FREEWAY AREA AND SOME NEW PROGRAMMING SPACE. 
          SO THAT JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT THE STAFF ARE CONSIDERING. 
          UM, A FEW OF THE BENEFITS FROM HOW WE'VE CREATED THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, TO CREATE CONSISTENT EXPECTATIONS FOR DEVELOPERS. 
          UM, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T WANT SURPRISES. 
          THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S EXPECTED IF THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE A DEVELOPMENT, OBVIOUSLY IN YOUR TOWN, UM, TO MAINTAIN THE HIGH LEVELS OF SERVICE AND PARKS AND RECREATION AMENITIES, UM, FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS TO EASE THE IMPACT FROM COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL BUSINESSES, UM, AND HAVE AN ADDED REVENUE STREAM. 
          WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER TODAY. 
          THIS IS REALLY, UH, CONSIDERED A TOOL RIGHT IN THE 
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WHOLE TOOLKIT OF HOW YOU FUND AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR WHOLE TOWN. 
          SO THIS IS SIMILAR IN PARKS AND RECREATION. 
          IT HAS VARIOUS FUNDING SOURCES, A VARIETY OF FUNDING SOURCES. 
          A FEW PIECES THAT WE LOOKED AT FROM THE LEGAL ASPECT. 
          UM, IS, IS THIS LEGAL FOR ADDISON? YES, IT IS. 
          UH, LOOKING AT THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, UM, IT PUTS SOME PROVISIONS THAT THIS IS OKAY TO BE DOING. 
          UM, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT YOU'RE A HOME RULE OF CITY. 
          YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT YOU HAVE SOME CAPABILITIES THAT NON RURAL CITIES DO NOT, UM, WHEN PUTTING IN DIFFERENT FEES, ABOUT 75 MUNICIPALITIES IN TEXAS HAVE GONE BEFORE YOU AND, UH, CREATED A PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE  AS WELL AS A DEVELOPMENT FEE. 
          AND WE ALSO TOOK SOME TIME TO, UM, I MET WITH YOUR ATTORNEY ACTUALLY IN COLORADO 'CAUSE HE'S IN COLORADO. 
          THAT'S I'M BASED OUT OF. 
          UM, AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS MITIGATE RISK AS BEST WE COULD FOR THE TOWN. 
          AND THESE WERE THE FOUR KEY COMPONENTS TO DOING SO. 
          UM, NOT HAVING ARBITRARY PRICING, SHOWING THE CALCULATIONS, UM, PUBLISHING THE FEES AND INFORMING DEVELOPERS EARLY IN THE PROCESS. 
          WE BELIEVE THAT WE'VE DONE THAT. 
          UM, WHERE WE'VE DONE THAT AS CURRENT AS TODAY IS WE'VE DRAFTED, UM, UH, A NEW UDC UH, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES THIS AS WELL AS REVISED THE ORDINANCE. 
          SO YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY 'CAUSE WE WANT YOUR COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACK FIRST, BUT THOSE HAVE BEEN DRAFTED, UM, AS WELL. 
          UH, THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE WOULD APPLY TO RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE. 
          THE PARK PLAN DEDICATION FEE, THAT FEE WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL ONLY. 
          IN MOST CASES, THE TOWN WOULD NOT ACCEPT LESS THAN ONE ACRE OF LAND FOR PARKS. 
          UM, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO ENABLE THE USE OF THESE FEES TO BE SPENT ANYWHERE WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE TOWN. 
          AS I MENTIONED, UH, THIS WOULD BE ADOPTED, UH, BY, BY ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          IT APPLIES TO NEW AND DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, THE PARKLAND IDENTIFICATION FEE HAS BEEN DETERMINED. 
          WE'LL SHOW YOU WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          UM, WE'VE CLARIFIED THE STANDARDS BASED ON CURRENT OPERATIONAL PRACTICES, UM, MEANING THAT, UH, IT'S REALLY TOUGH ON STAFF AND DEVELOPERS AT TIMES TO NEGOTIATE EVERYTHING AND, AND NOT, AND NOT BE SURE OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING. 
          IT DOESN'T LOOK CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD TO DEVELOPERS IF SOMEBODY'S DEDICATING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LAND OR A CERTAIN PRICE OR VICE VERSA. 
          SO THIS CREATES SOME CONSISTENCY. 
          UM, AND AS WELL, AS I MENTIONED, WE'LL BE TWO DISTINCT FUNDS FOR THESE FEES. 
          A COUPLE OF SPECIFICALLY UNIQUE PIECES, ADDISON, I KNOW JANNA MENTIONED, UM, A COUPLE OF THEM. 
          UH, THE LAND VALUE HERE IN ADDISON IS ABOUT $536,000 AN ACRE. 
          IT IS A HIGH LAND VALUE COMPARED TO SOME OF THE COMPARATOR CITIES. 
          UH, THERE'S ABOUT 133 ACRES OF AVAILABLE OR OPEN LAND, WHICH IS LESS THAN 5%. 
          UH, WE KNOW MOST OF THE PROJECTS WILL BE REDEVELOPMENT WE USE FOR INFILL, WE'RE USING THE NUMBER OF $400,000 AN ACRE FOR IT. 
          THE TYPE OF DEVELOPED PARK, REBUILD, PARK PERMIT THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE OR EXPECT HERE IN THE FUTURE OF ADDISON. 
          THERE IS A HIGH QUALITY, UM, AND CAN MEET HIGH EXPECTATION FOR PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES. 
          ONE PART OF THIS PROJECT THAT WE COMPLETED IS NEEDED, UH, PARKS ASSESSMENT AND PARKS ANALYSIS. 
          WE VISITED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR PARKS IN YOUR TRAILS TO LOOK AT THEIR QUALITY. 
          UM, AND WE LOOKED FOR MAINTENANCE BACKLOG. 
          WE COULDN'T FIND MUCH, I'LL BE REALLY HONEST. 
          UM, THERE'S A VERY HIGH QUALITY AND EXPECTATION, UH, AND WE'VE SEEN THAT, WE'VE SEEN THAT OVER A LOT OF COMMUNITY, UH, INPUT. 
          AND YOU HAVE SIGNIFICANT DAYTIME POPULATION INCREASE. 
          UM, THAT'S NO SURPRISE TO YOU, BUT IT DOES, IT DOES CHANGE SOME OF THE FACET AND THE FACTOR AS FAR AS CONTINUED LEVELS OF SERVICE AND WHAT PEOPLE EXPECT. 
          HERE IN MADISON. 
          WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE HIGH QUALITY. 
          UM, THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE IS 7.2 ACRES PER A THOUSAND RESIDENTS. 
          WE WANT THAT TO STAY VERY THE SAME. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THIS MAP, UM, THESE FINANCIAL RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BASED OFF OF THIS, MAINTAINING THAT CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          JUST AS A REMINDER, THE ONE-TIME FEES, UM, WE DON'T WANT DEVELOPERS TO AUTOMATICALLY PAY THE FEE IN LOOP AND NOT BE WILLING TO INDICATE LAND. 
          SO THE WAY THAT WE'VE WRITTEN THIS ORDINANCE AND THIS UDC, UM, IS TO REALLY TRY TO INCENTIVIZE THEM AND HELP ACQUIRE THE LAND THAT'S DESIRED. 
          UH, MOST OF THAT IS LAID OUT. 
          A LOT OF THAT IS LAID OUT IN THOSE, IN THAT TRAILS PLAN AND THAT PARKS AND OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN. 
          AND YET WE WANNA REMAIN DEVELOPER FRIENDLY AND CONTINUE TO ATTRACT HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENTS. 
          UH, I'LL JUST SAY FROM THE DEVELOPERS THAT I SPOKE WITH AND THE ARCHITECTS THAT I SPOKE WITH, THERE WERE TWO COMPONENTS THAT THEY SAID. 
          I SAID, HEY, WE'RE DOING THIS IN ADDISON. 
          UM, WE'D LIKE TO GET IT ADOPTED. 
          WHAT'S THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE? WHAT CONCERNS DO YOU HAVE? YOU KNOW, ARE THERE RED FLAGS? UM, THEY KIND OF ALL WERE WAITING FOR IT TO HAPPEN. 
          NOBODY 
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SEEMED VERY SHOCKED. 
          THEY WORKED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT CITIES. 
          UM, THE TWO THINGS THAT WERE MOST IMPORTANT, ONE WAS THAT THERE WERE NO SURPRISES. 
          THEY WANTED TO KNOW THE FEES UPFRONT. 
          AND THE SECOND IS THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT THIS TO DELAY THEIR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OR THE PROCESS. 
          WE'VE TAKEN THOSE TWO PIECES INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL. 
          THIS IS HOW FEES ARE CALCULATED. 
          UM, I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING THROUGH IT UNLESS YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. 
          UH, BUT THIS WOULD BE PUBLISHED IN THAT ORDINANCE, IN THAT CODE AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THIS IS BASED ON, UH, AGAIN, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND MAINTAINING THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE AND MAINTAINING THAT QUALITY LONG TERM. 
          SO WHAT ARE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS? UM, OKAY, HEY, LET'S TRY THAT. 
          OKAY, NOW, UM, SO THIS IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE FEE FOR A FEE. 
          AND LI IT WOULD BE $5,360, UM, PER DWELLING EVENT. 
          AND, AND THAT'S IF THEY WEREN'T GOING TO DEDICATE LAND. 
          THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE FEE FOR THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE FOR RESIDENTIAL, UM, IS $2,549. 
          SO THESE ARE BASED ON THE CALCULATIONS THAT I QUICKLY FLIPPED THROUGH, BUT I'LL EXPLAIN THEM. 
          UM, AND WE WANTED TO PUT THESE OUT THERE SO THAT A, IT'S DIGESTIBLE RIGHT NOW. 
          YOU CAN SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU WOULD HOPEFULLY ADOPT THE FULL FEE AS A COUNCIL. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY'RE LISTED AT FOR INDUSTRIAL TELL, RETAIL AND OFFICE, UM, SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THEN, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY IN A MINUTE. 
          AND THEN WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU ADOPT THE FULL FEE AND APPLY THE DISCOUNT, UM, BASED ON THE PRICE OF SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AND THEIR PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES OR IMPACT FEES AS WELL. 
          AND I'LL SHOW YOU THOSE. 
          UM, SO WE'VE LISTED ALL OF THOSE OUT FOR YOU IN THIS GRAPH BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THERE TO BE INNOCENT RISES. 
          UH, YOU ALSO HAVE THOSE IN THE HANDOUT. 
          I HAVEN'T TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT THE REASON WHY WE CREATED THIS DOCUMENT, UM, IS BECAUSE YOU SEE A BUNCH OF STUFF ON A SLIDE AND THEN YOU GO HOME AND YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT, OR YOU GET A QUESTION OR YOU'RE TRYING TO DIGEST IT. 
          WE WANTED YOU TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WAS ACCURATE AND REFLECTS WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY, UH, AS WELL AS AS PUBLIC HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY DESIRED. 
          SO THIS IS WHAT, UM, THESE FEES LOOK LIKE IN COMPARISON TO SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. 
          AND ALTHOUGH I MENTIONED THERE IS ABOUT 75 IN TEXAS, UH, WE SPECIFICALLY REVIEWED ABOUT 20. 
          THERE'S A LIST OF 12. 
          ADDISON REGULARLY COMPARES ITSELF TO, WE WENT AHEAD AND PULLED A FEW OTHERS. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE, UH, DENTON UP HERE, FRISCO, GRAPEVINE, MCKINNEY, AND PLANO. 
          UM, THERE IS NOBODY JUST LIKE ADDISON, SOMEONE'S LIKE, PULL. 
          IT'S JUST LIKE ADDISON. 
          I'M LIKE, YOU TOLD ME WHICH COMMUNITY IS JUST LIKE ADDISON, AND WE'LL DO THAT. 
          MM-HMM,  THERE REALLY ISN'T FOR A LOT OF FACTORS. 
          UH, SO, UM, WHAT WE HAVE LISTED IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF ADOPTING A FULL FEE WITH A 25% DISCOUNT. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE 40, 20 COMES IN. 
          AND 19, UM, THE WAY THAT DENTON DOES THEIR, UH, FEE AND L AS WELL AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN FRISCO AND YOU CAN SEE IN MCKINNEY, IS THEY DETERMINE THE LAND VALUE WITH EACH PROJECT. 
          THEY DO AN ASSESSMENT WITH EACH PROJECT. 
          THEY DETERMINE THE LAND VALUE FIRST, AND THEN THEY LOOK AT THEIR NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS. 
          ITS LIKE, FOR HERE, UM, OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. 
          WHY WE AREN'T RECOMMENDING THIS FOR ADDISON IS TWOFOLD. 
          ONE, IT DELAYS THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. 
          UM, SOMEBODY HAS TO GO OUT AND DO ASSESSING FOR EVERY PROJECT. 
          SECONDLY, THE SIZE OF ADDISON, THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT VARIANCE, UM, AS FAR AS AC THEIR PRICING, BUT IT'S NOT SO SIGNIFICANT, UM, TO DO THAT. 
          AND IT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO, UM, PUT A PRICE UP THERE FROM THE BEGINNING. 
          SO DEVELOPERS KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. 
          THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS FOR, UM, A, A RESIDENTIAL FACIL, A RESIDENTIAL, UM, UNIT OR A DWELLING UNIT. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE DENTON HAS SOME DIFFERENTIATION AS WELL AS FRISCO AND PLANO FOR SINGLE FAMILY VERSUS MULTIFAMILY. 
          WE ANTICIPATE MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENTS COMING INTO ADDISON WILL BE IN THAT MULTIFAMILY SPACE. 
          UH, CERTAINLY IF SOMETHING COMES IN FROM A A SINGLE FAMILY TYPE DEVELOPMENT, UM, ADDISON COULD CHOOSE TO MAKE JUSTIN'S AT THAT TIME. 
          WE ALSO WANTED TO PUT ON HERE SOME OF THE OTHER FEES THAT ADDISON DOES NOT HAVE, NOR ARE THEY CHARGING. 
          AND THESE ARE SPECIFIC TO IMPACT FEES, RIGHT? FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, SO THIS IS, THIS IS FOR MUNICIPAL IMPACT. 
          BASICALLY A ROAD FEE, ROADWAY FEE, A WASTEWATER FEE, UM, AND A WATER FEE. 
          AND SO WHAT YOU CAN START TO SEE IS SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES HAVE ADOPTED THOSE FEES AS WELL. 
          UM, ADDISON, 
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LIKE I SAID, IS NOT, UH, DOING THAT. 
          THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT PROJECT AND LOOKING AT THOSE FEES. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE WE THINK WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, UM, IS A GOOD RATE, EVEN THOUGH A COUPLE OF THEM ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN SOME OF THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, DEDICATING PARKLAND DOES NOT ELIMINATE THE ONSITE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT OF 20%. 
          UM, SMALL PASSIVE SPACES THAT ARE PRIVATELY OWNED PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE COMMUNITY CAN STILL ACHIEVE THE 20% OPEN SPACE CREDIT AND RECEIVE A 50% CREDIT TOWARDS PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, AND THIS IDEA OF A MINIMUM OF ONE ACRE BEING ACCEPTED BY THE TOWN, UM, TO OWN AND MAINTAIN. 
          AND THAT IS A CHANGE FROM YOUR CURRENT ORDINANCE. 
          UM, WHY WE WANNA DO THAT IS TO CONNECT TO SOME LARGER TRACKS OF OPEN SPACE. 
          IT'S IDENTIFIED IN THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN, UM, WHEN WE WANT TO ACCEPT ONE OF THOSE TRACKS, UH, AND IT HELPS PROVIDE SPACE. 
          UH, AT TIMES IT'LL HELP PROVIDE SPACE TO AREAS THAT ARE LACKING WITHIN A HALF A MILE OF THE SITE. 
          SO THIS TYPE OF PROVISION ALLOWS FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THAT ONE ACRE. 
          WE'LL SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF THOSE AS EXAMPLES. 
          SO THESE ARE YOUR PREVIOUS PROJECTS OR THINGS SPECIFIC TO ADDISON. 
          UH, THIS IS THE PLAZA. 
          ADDISON GROVE. 
          YOU'LL NOTICE IT'S 0.25 ACRES. 
          THERE'S APPROXIMATELY SIX PARKING, PARKING SPACES. 
          IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC JUST ON, UH, ONE SIDE AND IT'S RESIDENTIAL ON THE OTHER THREE. 
          UM, MANY RESIDENTS, PEOPLE THAT LIVE ADJACENT DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S A PUBLIC SPACE. 
          UM, AND THE PARK SPACE IS PRETTY LIMITING AS FAR AS WHAT PARKS CAN DO AND HOW PEOPLE CAN PARTICIPATE IN THIS SPACE IN THE FUTURE. 
          THIS TYPE OF, OF, UM, LAND DEDICATED, UH, THE STAFF WOULD SAY THIS CAN COUNT AS, AS THIS DEVELOPER'S 20%, UM, OPEN SPACE, BUT IT WOULD BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOA. 
          THIS ISN'T A PROPERTY THAT THE CITY THAT THE TOWN WOULD WANT TO ACCEPT IN THE FUTURE TO TAKE CARE OF AND MAINTAIN. 
          THIS IS THE GROVES THAT ADDISON GROWTH. 
          UH, THIS IS ABOUT A HALF OF AN ACRE PARCEL. 
          UM, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ON ONE SIDE AND RESIDENTIAL ON THREE SIDES. 
          AGAIN, SURROUNDING ACCESS OF LOCATION CAUSES SOME ISSUES FOR THE PUBLIC TO USE IT. 
          UM, SECURITY LIGHTING BOTHERS RESIDENTS. 
          THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S PUBLIC SPACE. 
          AND, UH, RESIDENTS DEPEND ON, UH, PARKS, UM, THE PARK STAFF TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE, UM, AND, AND CLEAN THE SIDEWALKS AND AND DEVICE DURING THE WEATHER. 
          SO STAFF WOULD, UM, BE REQUIRED. 
          THEY WOULD REQUIRE DEDICATION OF THIS PARK SPACE. 
          UM, AND THEY WOULD SAY THAT THIS MEETS THE 20% OPEN SPACE. 
          BUT AGAIN, UM, THAT THE STAFF, THE SITE SHOULD BE MAINTAINED, UM, AND KNOW BY THE HOA. 
          THIS PARCEL IS ALSO A HALF AN ACRE APPROXIMATELY. 
          HOWEVER, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ON THREE SIDES AND IT'S RESIDENTIAL ON ONE SIDE. 
          UH, THE SIZE AND SURROUNDING, UM, ACCESS AND LOCATION OF THIS PARK ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF ACTIVE AND PASSIVE USERS. 
          UM, STAFF WOULD ACCEPT THIS AS A PUBLIC PARK, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S LESS THAN ONE ACRE BECAUSE IT IS USED IN PEOPLE'S ABILITY, UM, TO ASSIMILATE THERE. 
          AND THEN BOSS PARK, AGAIN, IT'S LESS THAN ONE ACRE. 
          IT HAS 15 PARKING SPACES. 
          IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ON THREE SIDES, RESIDENTIAL ON ONE. 
          AND AGAIN, UH, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THIS AS A DEDICATED PARK, PUBLIC PARK SPACE. 
          SO AGAIN, UNLESS SOMEONE IN HERE, BUT WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU A FEW EXAMPLES OF WHEN STAFF WOULD SAY, YES, WE THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE. 
          WE WANT TO OWN AND MAINTAIN THIS. 
          AND THEN FINALLY THIS EXAMPLE, UH, SCREW HILL PARK. 
          UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE FIVE PARKS IN THE ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT. 
          IT'S ABOUT AN ACRE AND A HALF. 
          IT HAS APPROXIMATELY 30 PARKING SPACES. 
          IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ON ALL FOUR SIDES. 
          UH, THIS CAN USE, UM, SORRY, THIS CAN ACCOMMODATE ACTIVE AND PASSIVE PUBLIC USERS AND STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THIS, UH, AS A DEDICATED, UM, SPACE FOR PUBLIC PARK AS WELL. 
          SO HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES THAT ARE SPECIFIC IN ADDISON PLACES THAT YOU'RE ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH OF, OF HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO OPERATE GOING FORWARD FINANCIALLY. 
          UH, WE WERE ASKED AND WE THOUGHT IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF WHAT THIS WILL MEAN FOR A DEVELOPER IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY SHOULD THESE SKIS BE ADOPTED. 
          UM, SO ADDISON GROVE IS OUR, ONE OF OUR EXAMPLES WITH 499 DWELLING UNITS. 
          WHAT'S CURRENTLY HAPPENED IS THEY DEDICATED ONE ACRE OF PARK LAND, UM, AND THEY GAVE HIM A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A DEVELOPMENT FEE. 
          UM, IF WE LOOKED AT THIS NEW ORDINANCE, UH, THESE FIGURES ARE WITH A 25% DISCOUNT ALREADY, ALREADY INCLUDED. 
          UH, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DEVELOP, UH, FOUR POINT, SORRY TO DEDICATE 4.99 ACRES. 
          UM, LIKELY THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THIS FULL DEDICATION WITH THE SIZE OF THEIR PROPERTY. 
          UH, SO THEY COULD LOOK AT A PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE OR COMBINATION THEREOF. 
          THIS WOULD BE THE IMPACT TO RETAIL, AND THIS WOULD BE THE IMPACT FOR, UH, THE . 
          WE JUST HAVE A COUPLE IN HERE. 
          UH, THIS IS THE AM TREE HOUSE PHASE ONE PROJECT WITH 499 
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DWELLING UNITS, UM, IN 7,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE. 
          WHAT THEY DID WAS, UM, THEY DEDICATED THREE ACRES, UM, AND THEN THE AMOUNT IS NOT TOTALLY, TOTALLY KNOWN AS FAR AS THE TRAIL, BUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF DOG PARK AT $150,000 OF PUBLIC PARK. 
          UM, UNDER THESE NEW RECOMMENDED, RECOMMENDED ORDINANCE, UH, THE DEDICATION WOULD BE 4.49 ACRES. 
          SO AGAIN, IF THEY GAVE FREE, UM, THEN THAT, UH, DEVELOPMENT FEE WOULD SPECIFICALLY BE FOR 1.49 ACRES WITH THIS IS THE TOTAL, IF YOU WANTED TO SEE IT. 
          UM, THIS WOULD BE THE IMPACT TO COMMERCIAL AND THEN THIS WOULD BE THE IMPACT FOR . 
          AND FINALLY, UM, THIS PROJECT, THE JEFFERSON ARROW, 293 DWELLING UNITS, UM, THERE WAS NO LAND DEDICATED. 
          THERE WAS AN UNKNOWN COST FOR PRIVATELY OWNED A PUBLIC SPACE, A $50,000 PUBLIC ART. 
          UM, AND THEN A PLAZA IN A TEMPLE WHITE TRAIL LAND DEDICATED UNDER A NEW ORDINANCE REQUIRED WOULD BE 2.93 ACRES, UH, 560,000, JUST OVER $560,000 FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT FEE. 
          WHY THERE'S AN ASTERISK IS BECAUSE LIKELY IN YOUR PRESENTATION OR POSSIBLY WILL SENT TO THE PUBLIC THIS FIGURE, UM, IN THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION IS WITH THE 25% DISCOUNT. 
          SO WE JUST MADE THAT CORRECTION. 
          UH, THE COMMERCIAL WOULD BE $5,100. 
          AND THEN P AND LEWIS DOWN HERE AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THE LAST, UH, COMPONENT THAT WE WANTED TO COMPARE A LITTLE BIT, WE WERE ASKED, AND AGAIN, WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A GREAT QUESTION. 
          UM, ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS ON THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, IS AN APARTMENT USER AND SAID, WELL, HOW WOULD THIS IMPACT POSSIBLY APARTMENT RATES OR RENTAL RATES? UM, WE, WE DON'T KNOW THAT, WE DON'T CONTROL THAT PIECE. 
          HOWEVER, THIS IS THE IMPACT, UM, SPECIFICALLY TO A DWELLING UNITS. 
          SO WE PULLED THIS NUMBER FROM, UH, THE RECENT, THE RECENT HOUSING STUDY THAT I BELIEVE YOU SAW IN FEBRUARY $810,000 IS THE AVERAGE TOWNHOUSE PRICE. 
          SO SHOULD THIS BE THE FEE ADOPTED FOR THE PARK DEVELOPMENT? UM, AND THE FEE ALLOWS WOULD BE THE TOTAL. 
          AND SO AVERAGING THAT TOWNHOUSE OUT FOR A 40 YEAR SHELF LIFE BEFORE IT'S POSSIBLY REDEVELOPED WOULD BE ABOUT 40 CENTS A DAY. 
          UM, SO THE IMPACT OF THIS, THIS IS TOTAL IS LESS THAN 1%. 
          SO COMPARATIVELY TO THE TOTAL PRICE OF THE TOWNHOUSE, UM, IT'S NOT A HIGH PERCENTAGE THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THAT AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE OR WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING. 
          OBVIOUSLY BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS TONIGHT, UH, INPUT IS, UH, WE'LL BE REVIEWING AND REVISING UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER AND THE ORDINANCE. 
          UM, BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS, UM, COULD BE ADJUSTED, BUT THIS IS THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO, UM, PRESENT FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL ON JULY 23RD. 
          AND I SAY THAT BASED ON, BASED ON YOUR ALL SCHEDULE. 
          UM, AND THEN THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT ONCE IT IS PRESENTED, UM, OUR GOAL WOULD HAVE IT ADOPTED AND THEN IT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED, UM, THE FIRST OF THE NEXT MONTH AFTER IT'S ADOPTED. 
          THAT, THAT IS THE END OF MY, UH, FORMAL PRESENTATION. 
          AND I WILL TURN OVER TO JANET. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ONE THING I DO WANT TO ADD, CAROL DID A GREAT JOB OF LAYING OUT THE PROCESS FOR EVERYBODY AND PROVIDING THE INFORMATION ON THE SLIDE WHERE THERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT OUR FEES WOULD BE, WHERE OUR COMPARATOR CITIES SHOWED MULTI-FAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY. 
          UM, WE MADE A DECISION, I THINK THIS PART GOT LEFT OUT AS A GROUP TO NOT INCLUDE A SINGLE FAMILY FEE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT OUR COMPARATOR CITIES, THE SINGLE FAMILY FEE'S HIGHER, UM, AND WE KNOW THAT THE DIRECTION IS TO ATTRACT SINGLE FAMILY OR OWNER OCCUPIED DEVELOPMENT IF WE CAN. 
          AND SO OUR APPROACH WAS TO KEEP THOSE FEES THE LOWEST. 
          AND SO WE JUST HAD A BLANKET FEE THAT WOULD APPLY TO BOTH. 
          UM, BUT IF THE DYNAMIC EVER CHANGED, WE COULD ALWAYS GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT IN FUTURE YEARS. 
          BUT THAT IS THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO KEEP FEES FOR OWNER OCCUPIED SENIOR SINGLE FAMILY AS LOW AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND SO THAT WAS THE APPROACH THAT WE TOOK. 
          UM, AND WITH THAT SAID, WE'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE. 
          I'M HERE TO HELP ANSWER THEM AND ALSO WE'LL FILTER THEM TO FER IF THERE'S ONE THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR HER TO ANSWER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND UH, HOWARD, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I DO. 
          CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE TREE HOUSE ON PROJECT TREE HOUSE? SO THE FEE AT 858,000, IS THAT IN LIEU OF 4.49 ACRE? IT, IT WOULD BE TWO FEES THAT WOULD APPLY. 
          ONE WOULD BE FOR THE LAND. 
          SO WE WOULD BE ASKING THE DEVELOPER TO EITHER GIVE US 4.49 
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ACRES, UM, OR IF WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT WE WERE, YOU KNOW, THREE ACRES MADE SENSE FOR THE SITE, WE WOULD ASK FOR THE DEFICIT OF THE 5 98. 
          BUT THEN WE WOULD ALSO ASK FOR THE 8 58 TO DEVELOP A FUTURE PARK OR A FUTURE TRAIL. 
          SO ONE IS FOR LAND AND ONE IS FOR DEVELOPING THE PARK INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO I THOUGHT THE EIGHT, I MEAN, I MUST NOT BE FOLLOWING THE TRUCK. 
          WELL, SO THIS, I THINK WHAT'S IS THIS, IS THIS IS THE LAND AND IF THEY DIDN'T GIVE THE LAND, THIS IS THE FEE OF THE LAND. 
          IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE ONE THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT, BUT ISN'T IT 536,000 AN ACRE? SO WOULDN'T IT BE LIKE OVER 2 MILLION? YES. 
          VALUE IF IT WAS ADOPTED AT THE FULL PRICE WITHOUT A DISCOUNT, THIS IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT. 
          AND THEN BASED ON WHAT THEY GAVE WAS THREE ACRES. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE THE AMOUNT FOR THE ADDITIONAL, BUT THE ADDITIONAL ACRE AND A HALF MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO IT'S NOT 5 36 STATS, THAT'S THE FULL AMOUNT. 
          AND THIS IS 25% LESS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          IS THAT, OKAY, SO, SO THE FEE IS REDUCED 25%, BUT THE ACREAGE IS NOT CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON, ON THIS SLIDE. 
          SO HOW DOES THIS WORK WITH OUR EXISTING OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT? I KNOW YOU MENTIONED IT, BUT IT'S STILL, UH, YOU'RE STILL HAVING A HARD TIME FOLLOWING. 
          WE ALWAYS REQUIRE THE 20% OPEN SPACE FOR A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NOT INDUSTRIAL. 
          UM, THAT OPEN SPACE WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED BECAUSE THAT IS THE GREEN SPACE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THAT DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO THAT'S THE, THE BUFFER, THE STREETSCAPE TREES, ALL OF THAT FALLS WITHIN THAT OPEN SPACE. 
          AND THAT MUST BE OUR ORDINANCE CALLED OUT THAT THAT MUST BE LIVING PLANT MATERIAL. 
          BUT THAT IS NOT SPACE THAT IS PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE. 
          THE PARK SPACE THAT WE'RE ASKING TO BE DEDICATED, IF YOU'RE BRINGING IN HOUSING, SO NEW RESIDENTS INTO ADDISON, THAT NEEDS TO BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PARK SPACE THAT OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY CAN BENEFIT FROM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU COULDN'T GET AROUND HAVING THE 20% OPEN SPACE. 
          THIS IS ABOVE THAT REQUIREMENT? CORRECT. 
          EXCEPT FOR, UM, I'M LOOKING AT LESLIE BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WE DO, UM, PLAN DEVELOPMENTS AND SOMETIMES THAT 20% SPACE BECOMES STREET SCAPE OR OTHER THINGS. 
          UM, BUT FROM A PARK STANDPOINT, NO. 
          IT, THOSE WOULD BE THINGS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED IN A PLAN DEVELOPMENT. 
          QUESTIONS ON THIS SLIDE, SO I STILL DON'T GET IT. 
          UM, THE WHERE THE TOTAL AND THE DEFICIT AND NUMBERS COMES FROM. 
          WHAT IF, SO THIS HAPPENED TODAY AND WE WERE NEGOTIATING WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          IF THE DEFICIT OF FIVE 90, 600,000 WOULD BE FOR PARKLAND DIFFERENCE. 
          AND THEN WHAT ELSE? ? YEAH. 
          SO 4.49 ACRES NEEDED TO BE DEDICATED AND THEY DEDICATED THREE, SO THIS WOULD BE THE PRICE OF 1.49 ACRES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN PLUS THE 8 58. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THE 8 58 IS TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SURE. 
          IN OUR, OR THE TRE GOT ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          UM, SO WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE ARE CERTAIN SPACES THAT WERE RESERVED AS PARKS, BUT THEN THEY DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE PUBLIC SPACES. 
          YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          HOW DO YOU AVOID THAT? HOW DO YOU AVOID PUTTING UP, YOU KNOW, A PUBLIC PLACE OR A PUBLIC PARK SOMEWHERE AND THE REALLY DOESN'T FEEL ACCESSIBLE TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY? SURE. 
          SO IT'S, UM, THAT WAS THE CRITERIA THAT WE STARTED TO ESTABLISH BY THE MINIMUM PARK SIZE. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT SCROLL PARK, WHERE WE GOT AN ANCHOR AND A HALF, ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT IS PARK SPACE. 
          IT'S NOT SURROUNDED BY HOUSING ON ALL FOUR SIDES. 
          UM, IT CAN BE PASSIVE AND IT CAN BE ACTIVE AND IT SERVES MULTIPLE BENEFITS. 
          IT'S GOT PARKING AROUND IT. 
          THOSE ARE THE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, FOR VIABLE PARK SPACE THAT SERVES OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, WHEN YOU START TO GET INTO SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE HOUSING ON ALL THREE SIDES, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT NOW IS FUNCTIONING AS AN HOA, WE'RE CLEARING SIDEWALKS THAT ARE ALSO NOT ONLY THE WALK TO THE PARK, BUT TO PEOPLE'S HOMES DURING ICE STORMS. WHEN WE DON'T DO THAT ANYWHERE ELSE IN TOWN, WE'RE OUT HELPING 
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PUBLIC WORKS CLEAR THINGS AND GENERAL SERVICES CLEAR THINGS. 
          UM, BUT WE ALSO GET DAILY COMMUNICATION ABOUT, I DON'T LIKE THE LIGHTS ON AT 10 O'CLOCK IN THIS SPACE BECAUSE IT SHINES IN MY WINDOW, BUT WE HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY REQUIREMENT TO CREATE SAFE PUBLIC SPACES WHEN PARKS ARE OPEN, WHICH IS BETWEEN FIVE AND 11. 
          AND SO THIS ALLOWS STAFF TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE DECISIONS. 
          WHEN WE TELL A DEVELOPER THAT THIS LAND THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO GIVE US DOESN'T SUIT OUR NEEDS, IT WON'T SERVE A COMMUNITY. 
          I KNOW ONE OF THE ADDISON GROVE PROJECTS, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, I'VE TALKED TO RESIDENTS THAT ARE LIKE, IT'S THAT PROJECT FOR US. 
          CAN WE GO THERE? UM, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT, IT FEELS LIKE SOMEBODY'S FRONT YARD. 
          AND SO WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO ESTABLISH THAT KIND OF DECISION MAKING CRITERIA. 
          WHEN A PROJECT IS BROUGHT TO US, WE CAN TELL A DEVELOPER, NO, YOU'VE GOTTA GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. 
          IF YOU JUST WANNA GIVE US LAND BECAUSE THIS LAND DOESN'T FUNCTION AND SERVE OUR NEEDS OR TO, UM, YOU CAN COUNT THAT AS PRIVATELY OWNED PUBLIC SPACE AND GET 50% CREDIT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO NEED YOU TO DEDICATE OR PAY A FEE AND MOVE FOR THE REMAINDER. 
          SO IT ALLOWS US TO BE CONSISTENT IN OUR APPROACH, UM, BUT ALSO, UM, HAVE MORE INFORMED DECISIONS ON WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING AND WHAT WE'RE NOT IS PARK SPACE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN ALL OF THAT WILL BE IN THE ORDINANCE, THOSE REQUIREMENTS, AND THEN YOU DO HAVE, I GUESS THE, THE RIGHT TO SAY NO. 
          AND IF YOU WANNA CONTINUE WITH THAT SPACE WOULD BE, HAVE TO BE SERVICED BY RACHEL WAY RATHER THAN THE TOWN. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND AND I WOULD ADD, YOU KNOW, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, ONE OF THE PRIORITIES IS TO MAKE THIS CLEAR FOR DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY COME IN, NOW IT'S VERY CLEAR, IT'S IN BLACK AND WHITE AND THEY KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO ABIDE BY. 
          SO IT, IT GIVES STAFF THAT AMMUNITION AS THE TOOLS AS WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 
          BUT THIS MAKES IT VERY CLEAR FOR DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY COME IN THAT THERE'S NOT A BIG DISCUSSION ON THIS AND GOING BACK AND FORTH. 
          HERE'S QUESTION. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          UM, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE SHOWING THREE DIFFERENT EXAMPLES FROM ADD GROVE. 
          ALL THREE OF THESE ARE LOCATED IN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY. 
          WE'VE GOT FENCING AND WE'VE GOT CONSTRUCTION. 
          WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE BLOCKING PEOPLE, DETERRING PEOPLE FROM COMING IN THAT WON'T BE THERE FOREVER. 
          UM, DO WE EVEN HAVE AN HOA ESTABLISHED AT THIS POINT FOR, UH, ADDISON GROVE? THERE IS AN HOA FOR THE ADDISON GROVE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S FAIRLY NEW, RIGHT? WITHIN THE LAST WHAT, MONTH OR TWO? NO, I KNOW. 
          WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM AS WE'VE BEEN JUST SHOWING BEFORE . 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM AS WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO, AND WE'VE SUCCESSFULLY DONE THAT, GOT THE PARKS TO A POINT OF COMPLETION WHERE WE'LL ACCEPT THEM. 
          UM, BECAUSE THE HOA WAS THE ONE KIND OF COMMUNICATING TO US SOME OF THE FRUSTRATION OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS, I WAS, MAYBE I, I'VE I MISWORDED THIS IS THE DEVELOPER, THE HOA? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY HAVE A, A, A PRIVATE ENTITY THAT HAS BEEN FORMED THAT IS MADE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEY FINALLY GOT THAT DONE. 
          MM-HMM, . 
          OKAY. 
          AND DO WE KNOW HOW LONG AGO THAT WAS? SO WHEN YOU WERE SHOWING BEFORE, WERE YOU FOUR MONTHS OR FOUR YEARS? YEARS. 
          YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S NOT MATCHING UP WITH ONE OF THE OWNERS THAT LIVES THERE. 
          IT IS TELLING ME. 
          AND UM, SO I, I THINK THAT MAY HAVE BEEN ONE. 
          I KNOW THAT THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY YOU'VE GOT INDIVIDUALS THAT BOUGHT INTO, UH, BOUGHT INTO THE TOWN HOMES. 
          UM, BUT THE DECKER, THE DEVELOPER HADN'T BUILT ENOUGH, UM, TO, TO LET THE HOA FORM, RIGHT? AND SO, SO OWNERS WERE WANTING THINGS THAT AN HOA WOULD GET DONE. 
          THEY'RE WANTING THE DEVELOPER TO DO THAT, BUT THE DEVELOPER WAS JUST DELINQUENT AND NOT DOING THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON. 
          SO THAT, THAT, I THINK THAT IT SPEAKS TO A BIG WAY WHY YOU'VE GOT SOME OF THESE EXAMPLES YOU'RE GIVEN FOR THESE THREE THAT ARE RIGHT ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER. 
          UM, THE, THE OTHER THING I WANT TO GO TO, CAN WE GO BACK TO SLIDE 15? OKAY. 
          SO WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT WHAT TYPICALLY I'M USED TO SEEING OUR 13 COMPARATOR CITIES AND WE'VE GOT, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT OURSELVES, BUT WE'VE ONLY GOT FOUR OF OUR COMPARATOR CITIES LISTED WITH THIS, THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM. 
          IS THAT BECAUSE THE OTHERS DON'T HAVE THIS, ANYTHING LIKE THIS? SO SOME OF OUR COMPARATOR CITIES LIKE HARTON AND FARMER'S BRANCH, I BELIEVE DO NOT HAVE THIS FEE. 
          THIS FEE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU, UH, TO LOOK AT OUR PARK SYSTEM. 
          IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM THEIRS AND OUR LEVEL OF SERVICES DIFFERENT AND OUR, OUR GOAL TO CONTINUE THAT LEVEL OF SERVICES IDENTIFIED IN OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN, UM, SUPPORTS US DOING THIS FEE. 
          ALTHOUGH SOME OF OUR COMPAR YOUR CITIES. 
          YEAH, WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, SO 
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THAT IS TRUE AS WELL AS WE TRIED TO TAKE OUT, I THINK WE REVIEWED OVER 2012, WE ADDED EIGHT. 
          WE TOOK OUT, FOR EXAMPLE, A CITY LIKE DALLAS BECAUSE IT WAS CLEAR THAT ADDISON'S TRYING TO DO DALLAS. 
          SO, AND I KNOW IT'S CLOSE PROXIMITY, SO WE TOOK THEM OFF THIS LIST. 
          BUT CERTAINLY, UM, ALL OF THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE AVAILABLE IF THAT WOULD HELPFUL. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO. 
          LIKE WE TYPICALLY YOU WOULD SEE THE WHOLE LIST. 
          YEAH. 
          AND AGAIN, JUST THEIR COMPARATOR CITIES. 
          SURE. 
          NOT DALLAS, BUT UM, OUR COMPARATOR CITIES. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WE ARE, WE SORT OF JUST POINT ARE WE SORT OF PROVIDING A SERVICE MAYBE MORE ATTUNED TO PARK CITIES, UM, WESTLAKE COMPEL GENERALLY YOU THINK WE'RE MORE COUTURE, WE'RE OVER SERVING A SMALL POPULATION, SO, SO WE ARE PROVIDING A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE, UM, TO A SMALLER POPULATION. 
          BUT THEN WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER DAYTIME POPULATION THAT ALSO USES OUR PARKS. 
          AND SO THAT ONE'S A HARD ONE TO ANSWER. 
          UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US, WE'LL BRING BACK THIS CHART TO YOU THAT SHOWS ALL OF OUR COMPARATOR CITIES, SO YOU CAN SEE THE ONES THAT AREN'T CHARGING FEES. 
          BUT IT MIGHT ALSO BE HELPFUL TO INCLUDE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, UM, BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE HAVE PUBLISHED THAT. 
          SO IF THAT'S PUBLISHED, WE'LL INCLUDE THAT IN HERE TOO. 
          SOME SORT OF, SOME SORT OF A SCALE THAT'LL HELP US MAKE A BETTER DECISION WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          COULD YOU INCLUDE THE RATIO TOO, POPULATION TO, UH, ACREAGE LIKE WE HAVE HERE AS WELL. 
          SO HOW, HOW LARGE THE CITY IS OR THE POPULATION TO NUMBER OF ACRES OR APART AND PARTS. 
          SO I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION THEN. 
          SO IF WE HAVE THAT WAS 4.78% OF LAND AND WE'RE TRYING TO COURT A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPER TO COME INTO TOWN UNDER THESE NEW GUIDELINES, WE'RE NOT ANSWERING THAT SINGLE FAMILY TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT OF ARE WE HANDCUFFING ED FROM GETTING SOMEONE TO DEVELOP HERE IF WE PUT THOSE NEW PARAMETERS ON THEM SURE. 
          SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPER, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE SO LITTLE LAND LEFT. 
          WELL, ARE WE HANDCUFFING THEM? WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IN ANY OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, THERE'S A LOT OF FACETS TO IT. 
          I THINK THE REASON THAT WE HAVE THOSE OTHER THREE COLUMNS THERE TOO, AND WE'LL GET THE, BEFORE WE CAN DO THE FULL SURVEY, THAT'S FINE. 
          WE CAN, CAN SHOW MORE, IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THOSE OTHER IMPACT FEES THAT THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING. 
          SO THAT HELPS US JUSTIFY HAVING THIS FEE AT NOT AT THE FULL RIGHT. 
          WE'RE STILL SAYING 25% REDUCTION FROM THAT FULL FEE. 
          BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO STEP BACK TOO AND SAY, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS TO START WITH? 'CAUSE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS FOR OUR CURRENT AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS, HERE'S THE SERVICE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING. 
          IF WE'RE GONNA TAKE ON NEW RESIDENTS, THE DEVELOPER, AND OBVIOUSLY SUBSEQUENTLY THOSE RESIDENTS, THEY COME IN NEED TO, NEED TO PAY TO KIND OF HAVE US CONTINUE THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          'CAUSE IF NOT, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPREAD THAT OUT TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITIES. 
          THIS IS A WAY FOR THOSE NEW RESIDENTS, THOSE DEVELOPERS TO PAY TO HAVE US CONTINUE THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. 
          DOES THAT DOES NOT PRECLUDE US FROM HAVING OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSIONS ALIGNED WITH THAT AND SAY IF WE, IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE USING OTHER TOOLS, BUT THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET FUNDS, WE NEED TO KEEP THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE FROM PERFORMANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN BEING A SINGLE FAMILY IS NOT THE ONLY OPTION AT, AGAIN, THE PRICING WAS ON THE, ON THE SLIDE, 800,000 I THINK WAS 800 PLUS THOUSAND PER TOWN HOME WAS THE ESTIMATE. 
          800 IN ADDISON. 
          MM-HMM. 
           THAT WAS THE AVERAGE. 
          SO DOES THAT SORT OF PRICE US OUT OF THE MARKET AND EVEN HAVING TO HAVE THAT COMPARATIVE NUMBER? ARE WE AT A THRESHOLD? EXCUSE ME. 
          WE HAD A THRESHOLD OF COST WHERE WE, WE, I GUESS WE'RE CLEAR ENOUGH TO SAY WE ARE COSTING OURSELVES OUT BY WHAT WE CAN OFFER A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPER. 
          I DON'T THINK THE PARK FEES ARE DOING THAT. 
          I THINK THE MARKET ITSELF, WE'VE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          I MEAN THE MARKET ITSELF IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATION OF IS IT PROFITABLE TO PUT SINGLE FAMILY OR TOWN HOMES. 
          AND THOSE TWO DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS PARK FEE IS GONNA TO CHANGE THAT CALCULUS, BUT IT DOESN'T HELP. 
          RIGHT. 
          SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS, ACTUALLY, I DON'T WANNA ARGUE, BUT SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS ACTUALLY SAID, UM, THAT THEY BELIEVED THAT, UM, TRAILS AND TRAIL CONNECTIVITY HAS SELL PARCEL. 
          SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT IS EXACT SINGLE FAMILY. 
          UM, AND KNOWING THAT THE FEE WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY FOR PARK TYPE AMENITIES, THEY BELIEVE THAT CREATES MORE OF A LIVABLE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, SO I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ALL OF THEM, BUT THEY KNOW THAT'S GONNA HELP SELL THEIR HOUSE AT TIMES. 
          SO I WOULD, I WOULD ADD TO SAY SOMEONE CAME IN AND THEY WANTED, LET'S JUST NOT TALK ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. 
          WE TALK ABOUT TOWN. 
          LET'S SAY THEY CAME IN WITH FEE, SIMPLE TOWN HOMES 
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AND THEY CAME IN AS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO GIVE US SOMETHING FOR PARKS RIGHT NOW TODAY. 
          THIS ALLOWS US TO HAVE A DELIBERATE PROCESS TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA REQUIRE THEM TO DO AND HAVE IT BE FAIR FOR EVERYONE. 
          SO WE'RE WE'RE, WE WOULD DO IT. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA LET, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT COME IN WITHOUT HAVING SOME KIND OF PARK COMMITMENT. 
          SO THIS JUST GIVES US A WAY TO HAVE THAT BE RATIONAL AND APPLY DIFFERE. 
          IT'S MORE, IT'S, IT'S JUST MORE THAN JUST THE SPACE THAT WE WOULD DEMAND RIGHT NOW. 
          WE GIVE 'EM OPTIONS OTHER THAN THE 20% OF  RIGHT. 
          SPACE. 
          AND, AND, AND YOU SAW EVEN ON TREEHOUSE THAT THEY GAVE US MONEY FOR THE PARK DEVELOPMENT AND THOSE THINGS, BUT YEAH, THEY WOULD, THOSE WOULD BE PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS. 
          OH, HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS. 
          YEAH. 
          OH, IT DOES A LOT. 
          UH, COULD YOU GO TO SLIDE SEVEN? UM, JUST SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE THIRD BULLET AS FAR AS THE BENEFITS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SURE. 
          IT'S EASY IMPACT IN COMMERCIAL RETAIL BUSINESSES. 
          UM, I THINK IT GOES BACK TO THAT IDEA OF YOUR DAYTIME POPULATION. 
          SO IF YOUR RESIDENTIAL POPULATION IS AROUND, UM, 25,000 AND YOUR DAYTIME POPULATION IS 125,000, SO IT'S, WE KNOW THAT, UM, THOSE WORKERS, RIGHT, OR PEOPLE COMING TO VISIT ARE USING YOUR PARKS AND TRAILS AMENITIES AT SOME TIME. 
          UM, SO JUST EASING THE IMPACT OF THAT CONTINUAL USE ON YOUR CURRENT SERVICES. 
          UM, AND THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE GETTING SOMETHING BASICALLY THOSE, UM, BUSINESSES ARE, UM, BENEFITING ECONOMICALLY. 
          AND SO HOW DO YOU KEEP THAT SAME QUALITY? SO THEY WANT TO COME AND DO BUSINESS HERE IN MADISON AND PEOPLE WANT TO VISIT AND STAY IN PLACE. 
          SO ONE THING THAT I WOULD POINT OUT IS A LOT OF OUR COMPARATOR CITIES DO NOT CHARGE FEES. 
          UM, FOR PARKS FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          DALLAS IS ONE THAT DOES, I BELIEVE NORTH RICHLAND HILLS DOES. 
          AUSTIN DOES. 
          WE WANNA GET OUTSIDE THE METROPLEX. 
          THAT ONE'S A LITTLE MORE UNIQUE. 
          UM, UNIQUELY APPLIED IN TEXAS, BUT WE FELT LIKE IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR ADDISON BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR GROWTH WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN THROUGH REDEVELOPMENT OF COMMERCIAL. 
          A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS ARE MISUSE THAT WERE, THAT HAVE COME THROUGH RECENTLY. 
          UM, AND SO WE'VE, AND A LOT OF OUR PARK USERS, WE'RE CREATING A PROJECT ON FORUM RIGHT NOW FOR THE COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO WE'RE SEEING THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE PARK SERVICES TO OUR DAYTIME POPULATION. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT FEE CAME THROUGH WAS APPLIED. 
          SO WE ARE UNIQUE IN WHAT WE'RE REPRESENTING COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES IN THAT ASPECT. 
          SO MAN, THIS, THERE'S A LOT IN THIS PRESENTATION. 
          I AGREE. 
          I'M STILL, I'M STILL TRYING TO GET UNCONFUSED FROM EVERYTHING THAT, THAT WE SAW HERE. 
          THIS LIKE A FIRE HOSE. 
          UM, SO I, I'M NOT SURE, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT QUESTIONS I HAVE JUST BECAUSE I, I NEED TO TAKE IT ALL IN. 
          UH, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION THOUGH ON THE SLIDE 12 ABOUT NOT WANTING DEVELOPERS TO, UH, AUTOMATICALLY PAY THE REDUCED FEE. 
          SO WE DON'T WANT THEM TO, BUT HOW DO WE AVOID THAT? I BELIEVE WHAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER IN THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU'LL SEE WHEN WE PRESENT THE ORDINANCE AND THE UDC UPDATE IS THAT IT IS A STAFF DECISION ON WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO TAKE LAND OR WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT A FEE IN LIEBE. 
          SO IF THE LAND IN THE DEVELOPMENT FITS THE NEEDS OF OUR MASTER PLAN, IT FITS THE NEEDS OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AND WE DEEM IT BENEFICIAL, WE WOULD REQUIRE THE LAND OR A PORTION OF THE LAND AND A FEE IN LIE. 
          UM, AND SO STAFF WOULD BE LEADING THOSE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE AND THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE INCLUDED IN LIKE P AND C MEETINGS AND IN COUNCIL MEETINGS. 
          AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE LOTS OF EYES ON IT TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF IS, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING, UM, THE DIRECTION THAT WE NEED TO BE GOING. 
          BUT IT WOULD BE STAFF LED IN MAKING THOSE DETERMINATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND SOMETHING, BECAUSE I REALLY GOT LOST PROBABLY MULTIPLE TIMES, BUT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU, WE STARTED TO, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENTS AND THEN WE WERE MAKING COMPARISONS TO OUR OWN CITY OWNED PARKS WITH BOS AND CRU. 
          I DIDN'T GET THAT CONNECTION, SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT? SURE. 
          SO ONE OF THE STRUGGLES, UM, LIKE LET'S SAY IF WE TOOK THE ADDISON GROVE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE SHOWED SOME EXAMPLES FROM EARLY ON IN THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE, KNOWING THAT THE TOOLS THAT WE NOW HAVE, WE COULD HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT THOSE THREE PARKS DON'T SURFACE AS WELL AS ONE LARGER PARK. 
          UM, AND WE COULD HAVE REQUIRED A LARGER PARK SIZE BE CREATED THAT'S NOT SURROUNDED ON ALL THREE 
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SIDES BY HOUSING. 
          IT FEELS MORE APPROACHABLE BY THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, WHEN YOU GET INTO ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT, YOU START TO SEE SOME SUCCESSES. 
          THEY'RE SMALLER THAN ONE ACRE PARKS LIKE BOS, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY SMALLER, BUT IT SERVES THE COMMUNITY VERY WELL IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT'S A GREAT PASSIVE SPACE. 
          AND THEN WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO POINT OUT BY SHOWING THE COMPARISON OF SCROLL, WHEN YOU GET A LITTLE BIT LARGER, YOU ALSO HAVE PASSIVE SPACE AND ACTIVE SPACE. 
          IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT MORE, BUT WE WANTED TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHY WE ESTABLISHED AN ANCHOR. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED A LOT WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          THEY BELIEVE VERY STRONGLY THAT SMALL POCKET PARKS AND ADDISON THAT ARE HAVE PASSIVE SPACE ARE IMPORTANT, BUT THEY ALSO UNDERSTOOD THE CHALLENGES IF THEY AREN'T, YOU KNOW, LOCATED APPROPRIATELY. 
          AND SO THIS WAS HOW WE MADE THOSE DECISIONS IN MAKING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS WE WALK THROUGH LOOKING AT THE PARKS THAT WE HAVE AND DETERMINING WHAT SERVES THE COMMUNITY VERY WELL. 
          AND THEN WHAT POSES CHALLENGES. 
          OKAY, THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          UM, SO WHAT, SO WHERE, I MEAN, I SAW THE NEXT STEPS WITH THE CALENDAR. 
          WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US TONIGHT? I GUESS A GOOD, AND DAVID MAY HAVE MORE TO ADD, BUT I THINK WE WOULD, WE WOULD LIKE JUST AN INITIAL REACTION OR THE, THE FEES THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. 
          UM, DO YOU FEEL GENERALLY COMFORTABLE? THE IDEA OF ADOPTING A MAXIMUM FEE WAS, UM, A GOOD SUGGESTION OF FERALS BECAUSE IN THE FUTURE WE CAN ALWAYS DECIDE TO ADJUST THE DISCOUNT RATE WITHOUT HAVING TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO COME BACK IN AND DO CALCULATIONS FOR US IF WE FIGURE WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. 
          UM, SO I LIKE THAT SUGGESTION. 
          SO THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY FROM Y'ALL IN WHAT THAT DISCOUNT RATE IS. 
          UM, I THINK I'M HEARING FROM YOU, YOU MIGHT WANNA SEE THE COMPARATOR CITIES TO BE ABLE TO DISCERN THAT BETTER. 
          AND THEN I THINK DAVID ALSO HAS SOME THINGS TO ADD. 
          I, I WOULD JUST SAY, UM, IT'S, THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION AS MENTIONED. 
          A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS A GREAT, I'M, IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, BUT THE COMMITTEE HAD TO HAVE, HOW MANY MEETINGS DID THE COMMITTEE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS? IT'S LIKE 10. 
          YEAH. 
          AND LIKE A YEAR TO DIGEST. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I'LL SAY I'VE NEVER BEEN, I'VE HAD THIS COME UP OTHER, I'VE NEVER BEEN IN A CITY WHERE IT TOOK WHAT WORK SESSION FOR A COUNCIL TO GIVE DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO WE CAN JUST, WE DON'T NEED ANY DIRECTION RIGHT NOW. 
          WE CAN JUST COME BACK WITH ANOTHER WORK SESSION, BRING YOU, YOU GUYS HAVE SOME TIME. 
          Y'ALL HAVE SOME TIME TO DIGEST IT. 
          WE CAN BRING BACK SOME OF THE FOLLOW UP AND WE'LL JUST CONTINUE IN THE DISCUSSION. 
          THERE'S NO NEED TO TO RUSH THIS. 
          RIGHT. 
          I'M OFF FOR THAT. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'D BE HELPFUL. 
          BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IF YOU LOOK AT WYNWOOD PARK, YOU LOOK AT SPRO PARK OR YOU LOOK AT THE GROVE, YOU FAST FORWARD FIVE, 10 YEARS AND THE WALLS COME DOWN. 
          WHO ACTUALLY IS USING THE SPACE? AND IF WE USE IT TILL 10:00 PM NO. 
          'CAUSE YOU HAVE AN $800,000 OWNER. 
          I THINK THOSE CONSIDERATIONS HAVE TO BE PLANNED OUT WHEN WE SIGN THE CONTRACT AND WHAT IS EXPECTED 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHEN THE THING IS DONE. 
          'CAUSE SOME OF THESE PARKS, IF WE'RE TAKING THEM ON, IT'S TOTALLY USELESS. 
          IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY. 
          IF I COULD JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT AND I'LL PROBABLY JUST DO A POOR JOB OF SAY WHAT JANICE SAID EARLIER. 
          BUT SEE THE QUESTION OF THE, THE REASON FOR THE COMPARISON OF THESE, OF THE PARKS DOWN HERE IN ADDISON CIRCLE VERSUS ADDISON GROVE IS THESE WERE A SUCCESS. 
          AND, AND SO YOU LOOK AT THESE AND THEY'RE NEXT TO TOWN HOMES. 
          THEY'RE NEXT TO APARTMENTS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE THAT PUBLIC FEEL. 
          THEY'RE PUBLIC USE. 
          WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THAT'S JUST NOT QUITE THE CASE AT THOSE ONES THAT ADDISON GROVE. 
          SO WE WANNA HAVE THE PARAMETERS AND THE PROCESS IN PLACE TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN AND NOT THE ALTERNATIVE. 
          SO THAT WAS THE REASON. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA ADD SOMETHING IF I COULD FOR ADDISON GROVE. 
          SO THAT WAS, UM, UH, PRETTY EXCITING TIME. 
          I'M GONNA PUT IT THAT WAY. 
          WHEN WE, WHEN THIS CAME THROUGH, UH, THE APPROVAL PROCESS. 
          AND, AND SO, UH, A LOT OF US WERE WATCHING THAT. 
          AND, AND I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY HEARING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE WALL, THE WALL CAME DOWN, WE'VE GOT A FENCE THERE. 
          NOW, THERE, THERE WOULD BE CUT THROUGHS IN OUR MAIN RESIDENTIAL AREA. 
          YOU'D BE ABLE TO CUT THROUGH AND ACCESS ALL OF THESE PARKS AND SO FORTH. 
          AND, UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT NOW, THAT, THAT THE FENCING AND THE WALL IS STILL THERE. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE GOT CONSTRUCTION. 
          WE CAN'T, I MEAN, IT, IT, WE, WE'VE GOT A, UH, WE'VE GOT SOME BOLLARDS ON A STREET WITH A FENCE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO YOU CAN'T, IT'S LIKE, IT, IT'S YOUR DETERRED NOT TO EVEN GO OVER THERE RIGHT NOW. 
          'CAUSE IT'S A CONSTRUCTION AREA. 
          SO I WOULD SAY LIKE, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T LIKE THE, THE EXAMPLE OF, OF THOSE THREE PARKS BECAUSE IT'S NOT COMPLETED AND IT'S BLOCKED. 
          YEAH. 
          PART AND PART OF ME WONDERS IF IT'S A DEVELOPER AND THEY'RE DOING, GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEY, UH, GIVE 'EM THE LAND AND, AND, AND ALL THAT. 
          DO YOU THINK THE COMMUNITY WILL EVER REALLY FEEL LIKE THAT'S A PUBLIC PARK? 
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OR IS THAT A COMMUTER FOR THAT, FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OR THAT DEVELOPMENT? YEAH. 
          NEIGHBORHOOD PREMISE OF THIS STUDY. 
          WELL, I, I MEAN, I WOULD SAY WE'RE NOT IN THE PHASE RIGHT NOW OF GROWTH. 
          BUT IF YOU GO TO ANY TOWN THAT'S GROWING AND THEY'RE DEVELOPERS COMING IN AND THEY'RE BUILDING FROM GOOD GREENFIELD, RIGHT? THEY BUILD PARK THAT ARE FOR EVERYONE AND FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. 
          SO THERE'S GOOD, THERE'S GOOD AND BAD EXAMPLES, BUT IT IS NOT UNREASONABLE TO ASK A DEVELOPER TO BUILD A PARK THAT HAS THE TRAITS THAT ATTRACT FOLKS OUTSIDE THE FILM. 
          I, YEAH. 
          DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. 
          I THINK IT'S FAIR. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BUT I JUST WONDER FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY LIVE THERE, WILL THEY, WILL THEY EVEN FEEL LIKE THAT'S OURS? I IT'S HOW IT'S PROGRAMMED. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE, WE HAVE EXAMPLES NOW THAT REALLY WORK. 
          I MEAN, LOOK AT THE TRUVIA. 
          I MEAN, LOOK AT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THAT TRAIL SYSTEM. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY EMILY YEAH. 
          I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PLANNING FOR THE CONNECTIVITY. 
          UM, BUT YES, THAT IT WOULD BE ACCEPTED. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE TO ME, BECAUSE I MEAN, I THINK THE, THE, THE TREE HOUSE EXAMPLE IS, IS REALLY GOOD BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT THERE, IT'S CONTINUATION. 
          BUT TO ME, IF SOMEBODY HAS TO WALK INTO A DEVELOPMENT TO ACCESS IT, YOU'D KIND OF, I WOULD FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE AN OUTSIDER GOING INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, USE THEIR PARK. 
          LAY LOCKS IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE. 
          IT'S KIND OF LOCKED IN WITH HOMES. 
          YEAH. 
          LITTLE BIT. 
          AT LEAST THERE'S SOME PUBLIC PARKING THERE FOR THAT. 
          CORRECT. 
          IT'S NOT, THAT'S THE OTHER COMPONENT. 
          IS THERE PUBLIC PARKING OR NOT? BUT I THINK THAT'S WHY THOSE EXAMPLES WERE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THOSE ARE PROBABLY BETTER SERVED, YOU KNOW, BEING SERVICED BY THE OA RATHER THAN WITH EXACTLY. 
          AND, AND MAYOR, WON'T WE FIND OUT THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION WHEN, WHEN REDING TRAIL IS EXTENDED THROUGH THAT DEVELOPMENT FUNDS OA AND THE FENCE IS TAKEN DOWN WHERE THE BALLARDS GO. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE THAT'LL BE ONE, THAT'LL BE THE, THE COMPLETION. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS. 
          RIGHT. 
          THERE'S CHANGE THE DYNAMIC OF THAT. 
          SURE. 
          HUGE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT LOOKS PRETTY CLEAR THAT IF WE APPLY THESE, THESE RULES OR THESE GUIDELINES TO THOSE PARTS AND AS AND GROVE, MOST OF 'EM, THEY WOULDN'T BE PUBLIC PARKS OR YOU'D NEGOTIATE FOR DIFFERENTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST DIFFERENTLY OR A DIFFERENT SPACE THAT'S MORE USABLE. 
          AND, AND I WANNA POINT OUT THOSE, THE TWO SPACES THAT WE SAID, UM, THAT STAFF WOULDN'T SUPPORT THOSE IF WE WERE NEGOTIATING WITH THE DEVELOPER BEING HARD LAND, THEY'RE STILL VALUABLE TO THAT DEVELOPMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          I PERSONALLY, IF I WAS GONNA BUY ONE OF THOSE UNITS, I'D LIKE TO BUY THE ONE THAT HAS THE GREEN SPACE RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT. 
          UM, IT IS AN AMENITY AND THAT'S WHY WE CREATED THAT 50% CREDIT THAT YOU CAN GET A 50% PARKLAND CREDIT FOR DEDICATING PRIVATELY OWNED PUBLIC SPACE. 
          UM, BECAUSE IT DOES SERVE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. 
          BUT DOES IT WELCOME, THE IDEA IS IF YOU LIVE IN ADDISON AND YOU WANNA GO SEE NATURE, YOU GO TO WHITE ROCK CREEK TRAIL, AND IF YOU LIVE ON, YOU KNOW, EAST ADDISON AND YOU WANNA GO TO A PLAYGROUND, YOU GO TO PLAY LOCKS BECAUSE WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE VERY PERMEABLE IN USING OUR PARKS. 
          AND SO THOSE CRITERIA THAT WE ESTABLISHED WAS TO SUPPORT THAT PERMEABILITY OF ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO USE ALL OF THE PARKS IN TOWN, BUT ALSO GIVING VALUE AND CREDIT WHERE IT'S DESERVED FOR THAT PRIVATE SPACE. 
          THAT BECAUSE IT IS AN AMENITY TO THE DEVELOPMENT, IT DOES MAKE OUR COMMUNITY LOOK BETTER. 
          UM, AND SO I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR THAT WE WEREN'T, I THINK WE'RE BEING A LITTLE HARD ON THOSE PARKS, BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHY WE WERE BEING SO HARD. 
          'CAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO ESTABLISH CRITERIA. 
          IT WASN'T THAT WE WERE SAYING THEY WERE BAD OPEN SPACES, THEY JUST PROBABLY SHOULD BE PRIVATELY OWNED. 
          UM, OR THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATED TO CREATE A LARGER SPACE THAT'S NOT SURROUNDED ON ALL THREE SIDES BY DEVELOPMENT HOUSING. 
          ANOTHER THING WE CAN DO IS ADD THOSE TO OUR, UH, PARKS WEBPAGE. 
          YES. 
          I BELIEVE , IT GOES BACK TO THE POINT WE WERE JUST TALKING AMONGST OURSELVES, WAS IS IT HOA RUN OR IS IT TOWN RUN? I THINK THAT HAS TO BE A DEFINED QUESTION GOING FORWARD. 
          SHOULD IT BE BASED ON ITS LOCATION, ACCESSIBILITY, PRIVACY, GROWTH? IT'S GOTTA BE ONE OR THE OTHER. 
          IT CAN'T BE UNKNOWN. 
          BUT JAN MAKES A REALLY GOOD POINT BECAUSE I, WHAT I STRUGGLE WITH IS YOU HAVE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND EVERYONE'S PUSHING FOR DENSITY. 
          AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THOSE OPEN SPACES BECOME AMENITIES FOR THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. 
          AND YOU, YOU WANT DEVELOPMENT TO COME INTO THE TOWN, BUT YOU, YOU WANT IT TO WORK, YOU WANT, YOU WANNA INVITE PEOPLE INTO THE COMMUNITY. 
          YOU DON'T WANNA SQUEEZE THEM INTO A SMALL SPACE. 
          SO BY DOING THIS, DOES IT ENCOURAGE DEVELOPERS TO SAY, HEY, I'LL, I'LL DEDICATE MORE PARK SPACE? OR DOES IT NOT ENCOURAGE THEM? OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE DEVELOPERS DEDICATE APPROPRIATE PARK SPACE. 
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UM, AND IF IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR US TO HAVE FEES IN ORDER TO BANK FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH SOME OF THE GOALS IN OUR MASTER PLAN. 
          SO ONE OF THE BIG THINGS, CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A LOT IN OUR DEPARTMENT IS TRYING TO MAKE TRAIL CONNECTIONS OR BIKE LANES. 
          UM, AND HOW DO YOU DO THAT WHEN WE DON'T OWN THE RIGHT OF WAY OR WE DON'T OWN THIS PIECE OF LAND THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF IT AND WE DON'T HAVE FUNDS TO PURCHASE THAT LAND. 
          AND SO WHEN WE DE DETERMINE IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR US TO HAVE THAT LAND THAT A DEVELOPER'S PROPOSING TO GIVE TO US, WE CAN MAKE THE DETERMINATION THAT THAT ONE DOESN'T SERVE US AS WELL AS THE FUNDS WOULD FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GO IMPLEMENT THE GOALS IN THE PARKS MASTER PLAN AND THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN. 
          AND ONCE AGAIN, ALL OF THESE THINGS, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE CREATING CRITERIA FOR STAFF SO WE CAN BE CONSISTENT, WILL ALWAYS BE DOUBLE CHECKED THROUGH PNZ AND COUNCIL ALONG THE WAY. 
          I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          SO ABOUT FOUR SLIDES FORWARD FROM THAT RIGHT PAST COMPARATIVE, UH, SLIDE AND THAT ONE, SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 50% CREDIT, SO THAT PRIVATELY OWNED, BUT PUBLIC ACCESS THAT'S PRIVATELY MAINTAINED TOO, RIGHT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, LOTS FOR US TO CONSIDER ON THIS. 
          AND, UH, AND THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO HELP US UNDERSTAND, AND I KNOW I MADE PROGRESS. 
           GOOD. 
          THAT'S HOW WE, WE GAVE YOU THIS HANDOUT. 
          IT'S GONNA BECOME MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOU THOUGHT. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA SAY ONE FINAL THING IS I KNOW YOU'RE ALSO, UM, DOING A COMPREHENSIVE, UM, PLAN WITH A COMPANY CALLED VIRGINITY. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC MEETING TOMORROW EVENING. 
          AND, UM, SO VERITY IS A SUB WITH US ON THIS PROJECT. 
          AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT LAND VALUE AND COMPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND 110% IS A SUB WITH, UH, VIRGINITY FOR THAT COMP PLAN. 
          AND I TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE WE, WE KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A, THE, THE HIGHEST LEVEL OVERARCHING PLAN, UM, IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. 
          AND SO WE ARE CONNECTED FROM THE STANDPOINT OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY'RE HEARING AS FAR AS CONNECTIVITY, UM, WALKABILITY MOVING THROUGH THE CITY. 
          AND SO WE WILL BE CONTINUING TO LINE UP RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND THOSE IDEAS ALONG THE WAY. 
          AND I THINK JUST AS YOU SEE THOSE COME TO FRUITION, UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER ON THOSE PLANS FOR Y'ALL. 
          I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. 
          THANKS FOR SHARING THAT. 
          THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. 
          ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY ON THIS? ALRIGHT, THANKS Y'ALL. 
          I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD ON THIS. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          [b.  Present and discuss the management of the Urban Forest and the Tree Mitigation Fund In Addison.  ]
ALRIGHT. 
          ITEM NUMBER FOUR B, PRESENT AND DISCUSS THE MANAGEMENT OF THE URBAN FOREST AND THE TREE MITIGATION FUND IN ADDISON, JANA, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JANA TWELL, DIRECTOR, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC. 
          UM, THIS PRESENTATION THIS EVENING IS GOING TO COVER SOME INFORMATION REGARDING URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PRACTICES IN ADDISON, URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT CHALLENGES AND SOLUTIONS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, A POLICY FOR USE OF TREE MITIGATION FUNDS, UM, HOW THIS TOWN HAS CURRENTLY BEEN MANAGING THE FUNDS THAT ARE IN THE TREE MITIGATION FUND, AND THEN IMPLEMENTATION OF TREE PLOTTER SOFTWARE THAT HAS BEEN PURCHASED AND WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED THE URBAN FOREST. 
          IT'S A VITAL PART OF ADDISON. 
          IF YOU'RE DRIVING FROM ONE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ANOTHER OR IN ONE TOWN TO ANOTHER, YOU ALMOST IMMEDIATELY KNOW WHEN YOU'RE IN ADDISON JUST BECAUSE OF THE TREE CANOPY AND THE TREE COVER. 
          UM, AND SO IT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR DNA AND PLANTING TREES AND PRESERVING TREES SHOULD BE PER IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF THAT CRITERIA FOR US. 
          BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR US TO TAKE CARE OF THE TREES THAT WE HAVE TO ENSURE PROPER TREE HEALTH. 
          UM, BACK IN OUR DAY, ONE OF THE COMMON PROBLEMS THAT YOU'VE HEARD THAT OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT, I THINK THE TOWN IN GENERAL HAS, IS WE BUILT EVERYTHING ALL AT ONE TIME. 
          SO WE PLANTED ALL OF OUR TREES ALMOST AT THE SAME TIME. 
          AND SO WHEN YOU PLANT A BRAND NEW TREE, IT DOESN'T HAVE AS MANY MUCH MAINTENANCE NEEDS AS THE MORE MATURE TREE DOES. 
          AND SO AS THOSE TREES GROW AND THE CANOPY GROWS, THEY'RE MORE BENEFICIAL TO US, BUT THEY ALSO, UM, INCREASE OUR MAINTENANCE COSTS. 
          AND SO PART OF THIS DISCUSSION IS GOING TO BE PRESERVING THE TREE HEALTH OF THE TREES THAT WE HAVE IN ADDISON AND HOW DO WE, UM, REASONABLY FUND THAT AND HOW DO WE BALANCE, UM, MITIGATION OF TREES IN TOWN. 
          SO OUR DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY, UM, MANAGES OUR URBAN FOREST IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          THE VERY FIRST THING IS WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE A MINIMUM OF ONE CERTIFIED ARBORIST ON STAFF. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO RIGHT NOW. 
          OUR PARK SUPERINTENDENT JOHN ELIAS, 
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AND THEN OUR PARKS MANAGER, MATT ANSTEAD. 
          UM, WE PROVE TREES ANNUALLY TO PREVENT AND TREAT DISEASE, PROVIDE CLEARANCE OVER WALKS AND ROADS AND AROUND BUILDINGS AND TO ADDRESS SAFETY. 
          UM, WE HAVE HISTORICALLY DONE A VERY GOOD JOB AT THAT. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD BUDGETED FOR, UM, IN OUR BUDGET WHEN I BECAME THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT. 
          BUT WE ALSO HAVE STARTED A NEW, UM, KIND OF PROGRAM WHERE A MINIMUM OF MONTHS EVERY FIVE YEARS TO ENCOURAGE HEALTHY GROWTH OF TREE STRUCTURE AND OPEN THE CANOPY TO SUPPORT SUNLIGHT, FILTRATION AND AIR CIRCULATION. 
          WE WILL TOUCH EVERY TREE IN TOWN ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS AT A MINIMUM, UM, IMPROVEMENT. 
          AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD NOT BUDGETED FOR AND THAT WE WERE NOT DOING. 
          WE WERE DOING IT IF IT BECAME AN EMERGENCY OR A NEED, BUT IT WASN'T TO PREVENT AND TO PROMOTE HEALTHY TREE GROWTH. 
          UM, WE ALSO WATER FERTILIZED SURVEY, UM, TREE HEALTH AND TREE COMPLICATIONS. 
          UM, AND THEN MITIGATION PROTECTED TREES ON TOWN PROPERTY ARE REMOVED, THAT ARE REMOVED BECAUSE THEY ARE DEAD DISEASE OR CAUSE A SAFETY CONCERN ARE MITIGATED WITH A NEW FOUR INCH TREE. 
          SO WE FOLLOW THE RULES. 
          THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOLLOWS THE RULES THAT WE REQUIRE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. 
          IF THEY REMOVE A TREE, UM, BECAUSE IT'S CONVENIENT OR BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BUILD A FACILITY, WE REQUIRE THEM TO MITIGATE THAT TREE CALIBER INCH PER PER CALIBER INCH. 
          SO THE, THE STORM THAT WE JUST HAD, WE HAD SOME BUSINESSES IN ADDISON THAT LOST TREES, UM, THAT WAS MOTHER NATURE TAKING OUT A TREE. 
          AND SO WE WOULD REQUIRE THAT TREE TO BE MITIGATED WITH A FOUR INCH CALIBER TREE. 
          UM, BUT IF THE DEVELOPER CAME IN AND WAS GOING TO REMOVE TREES ON A PROPERTY SO THEY COULD DEVELOP, THAT WOULD BE CALIBER INCH FOR CALIBER INCH. 
          SO IF THEY TOOK OUT 20 INCHES OF TREES, THEY WOULD PUT BACK 20 INCHES OF TREES. 
          OUR DEPARTMENT FOLLOWS THAT SAME POLICY. 
          UM, SO WE, WE KEEP A RUNNING LOG OF TREES THAT HAVE DIED OR WE'VE GOT A NEW LOG FROM THE WINDSTORM AND WE BEGIN MITIGATING THOSE TREES AS ONE DIES, WE REPLACE ONE. 
          UM, WE MAY NOT PUT IT BACK IN THE SAME PLACE BECAUSE SOMETIMES TREES WERE PLANTED TOO CLOSE TOGETHER OR SOMETIMES WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD SUCCESS GETTING A TREE TO GROW IN THAT AREA AND THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON. 
          AND SO WE PLAN IT IN A DIFFERENT PLACE. 
          UM, OUR ORDINANCE ALSO SAYS THAT THERE ARE SOME UNPROTECTED TREES THAT DO NOT HAVE TO BE MITIGATED, AND THOSE ARE HACKBERRIES AND BRADFORD REPAIRS. 
          AND SO WE FOLLOW, UM, THAT ORDINANCE ALSO IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, WE HAVE BEEN FACING SOME CHALLENGES AND WE DO VIEW THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE STARTED TO SEE FROM DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND PROVIDING TREE MITIGATION FUNDS AS ONE OF THE TOOLS, NOT THE ONLY TOOL THAT ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT WE CAN START TO SERVE SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES. 
          UM, SO PRIOR TO 2008, OUR LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE REQUIRED SPACING OF LANDSCAPE BUFFER TREES 20 FEET ON CENTER, UM, WHICH RESULTED IN MANY SIDES, HAVING DENSE VEGETATION OF TREES PLANTED CLOSER TOGETHER THAN BEST PRACTICES WOULD SUGGEST. 
          NOW SOMETIMES IF YOU LOOK, IF WE HAD A CREPE MYRTLE THAT ONLY GOT 20 FOOT WIDE, WHICH IS AN ORNAMENTAL TREE, THAT WOULD BE FINE, THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE FOR THAT TREE AND WE WOULD SUPPORT THE SPACING OF THAT. 
          UM, HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE LIVE OAKS THAT GET 65 FOOT WIDE AND WE'RE PLANNING 'EM 20 FEET AWAY FROM OTHER LIVE OAKS, UM, THAT CAUSES THE BRANCHES ON THOSE LIVE OAKS TO RUB TOGETHER WHEN THE WIND BLOWS AND IT STARTS TO CREATE WEAK POINTS THAT YOU START TO GET INSECTS AND DISEASE. 
          AND SO THERE'S A REASON WHY THE SMALL LITTLE BRANCHES AREN'T AS IMPACTED, BUT THE BIG ONES ARE. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S THAT 30 FOOT SPACING THAT SEEMS TO BE THE IDEAL SPACING THAT PROMOTES TREE HEALTH. 
          UM, AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT WAS MADE TO OUR LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE. 
          UM, BUT IT'S CAUSED A CHALLENGE BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE REDEVELOPMENT HAPPENING WHERE WE HAVE MORE DENSITY AND DEVELOPMENT TAKING UP MORE OF THE SITE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE LESS LAND FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT TO COME BACK AND MITIGATE THE TREES ON THEIR SITE THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MITIGATE. 
          UM, SO WE, AND BECAUSE WE ASKED 'EM TO PLANT THEM CLOSER TOGETHER EARLY ON, AND NOW WE'RE ASKING THEM TO MITIGATE THOSE TREES STILL, BUT SPREAD 'EM FURTHER APART. 
          SO ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS HAS BEEN TO FORM A TREE MITIGATION FUND THAT ALLOWS THE TOWN TO HAVE A POOL OF MONEY, UM, THAT CAN BE USED TO PLANT NEW TREES IN TOWN. 
          UM, WE HAVE DEVELOPED A POLICY, WHICH I'LL GET INTO THAT ALSO ALLOWS THAT MONEY TO BE APPLIED TO SOME MAINTENANCE OF TREES. 
          UM, AND IT DOES ALIGN WITH WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO. 
          ONE OF THE OTHER CHALLENGES, UM, THAT OUR DEPARTMENT HAS FACED, AND I THINK 
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I GOT INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, IS ADDISON'S PLACED A LOT OF IMPORTANCE ON PLENTY TREES IN TOWN. 
          BUT THE MATURING URBAN FOREST HAS INCREASED MAINTENANCE NEEDS THAT NEED TO BE PLANNED AND BUDGETED FOR. 
          SO HOW ARE WE DOING THAT? THE PARKS OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET WAS RESTRUCTURED TO ALLOCATE MORE FUNDS TO TREAT PRUNING AND MAINTENANCE. 
          SO WE DID THIS INTERNALLY. 
          UM, WE DIDN'T DO A DECISION PACKAGE REQUEST OR ASK FOR MORE MONEY IN THE BUDGET. 
          WE JUST WENT THROUGH AND FIGURED OUT WHERE CAN WE TRIM AND MOVE THAT OVER TO TREE MAINTENANCE. 
          THAT HAS ALLOWED US TO START TO PRUNE EACH TREE A MINIMUM OF MONTHS EVERY FIVE YEARS IN TOWN. 
          UM, I WILL TELL YOU, WE JUST GOT A CALL FROM THE RESIDENT TODAY THAT WANTS US TO PRUNE A TREE THAT WE BRING TWO YEARS AGO BECAUSE OUR TREE IS KEEPING HER YARD FROM BEING ABLE TO GROW GRASS. 
          UM, SO THERE THE NEEDS IN SOME SITUATIONS ARE MORE THAN EVEN ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS. 
          THAT'S OUR MINIMUM GOAL. 
          UM, TREE SURVEY SOFTWARE. 
          UM, WE IMPLEMENTED THAT TO HELP TRACK AND PLAN OUR MANAGEMENT NEEDS. 
          IT'S REAL EASY TO SAY WE'RE GONNA TOUCH EVERY TREE IN TOWN ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS AND PR IT, BUT IF WE'RE NOT TRACKING IT, UM, IN A WAY THAT WE CAN ALL LOOK AT AND AGREE THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND KEEPING UP WITH IT, UM, IT, IT WOULD BE HARD FOR US TO ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL. 
          AND THEN THE TREE MITIGATION FUND WAS DEVELOPED TO SUPPLEMENT COST OF INCREASED TREE PRUNING AND MAINTENANCE SUPPLEMENTS. 
          SO NOT ALL THE MONEY GOES TO THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN THE TREE MITIGATION FUND WAS DEVELOPED TO HELP HELP SUPPLEMENT TREE REPLACEMENT COSTS OF SEVERE ENVIRONMENTAL EVENTS SUCH AS FREEZES, STRAIGHT LINE WIND STORMS, OAK WILLS. 
          AND ONE OF THE NEWEST CONCERNS IN THE DFW METROPLEX IS THE AL ASH FOUR. 
          UM, AND SO EVERY TIME WE HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL EVENT THAT TAKES OUT COMPONENTS OF OUR URBAN FOREST, IT PUTS A DRAIN ON OUR OPERATIONS BUDGET. 
          AND SO THIS BEGINS TO PROVIDE SOME FUNDS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE THOSE TREES AND UPHOLD THOSE POLICIES THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING. 
          UM, WE STARTED THIS PROJECT KIND OF AS A TEST. 
          WE HAVE SOME DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, UM, THAT THEY COULDN'T MITIGATE EVERYTHING ON SITE AND WE WERE STARTING TO SEE THIS BEING MORE COMMON. 
          AND SO STAFF FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO DRAFT AN INTERNAL POLICY OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THOSE FUNDS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MANAGE THEM. 
          OUR GOAL IS TO ROLL THIS INTO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE WHEN IT'S ADOPTED. 
          UM, BUT JUST IN AN OVERVIEW, A PAYMENT CAN BE MADE INTO THE TOWN'S TREE MITIGATION FUND IN LIEU OF ONSITE MITIGATION. 
          THE PAYMENT SHALL BE IN A CALIBER INCH UNIT. 
          COST AND PAYMENTS INTO THIS FUND WILL BE USED TO COVER THE COST OF OFFSITE TREE MITIGATION THAT CANNOT BE ACCOMPLISHED ON SITE. 
          ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS I THINK THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF IN THIS POLICY IS WE THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE, IT IS ALWAYS PREFERRED TO, FOR TREES TO BE MITIGATED ON SITE FIRST. 
          AND THIS OPTION MAY ONLY BE USED IF STAFF CONFIRMS THAT THERE IS NOT ADEQUATE ROOM ON SITE FOR TREES TO BE PLANTED IN A MANNER THAT SUPPORTS TREE HEALTH AND SAFETY. 
          SO OUR GOAL ISN'T TO GROW THE TREE MITIGATION FUND, OUR GOAL IS FOR IT TO BE A TOOL. 
          UM, BUT OUR PRIMARY GOAL IS FOR TREES TO BE MITIGATED ON SITE WHERE THEY CAN BE MITIGATED ON SITE. 
          UM, WE ESTABLISH THAT THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT WILL ADMINISTER AND USE THE FUND TO PURCHASE PLANT AND INSTALL IRRIGATION FOR NEW CANOPY AND ORNAMENTAL TREES OR TRANSPLANT EXISTING TREES TO BE PLANTED ON TOWN. 
          PROPERTY FUNDS CAN BE USED TO PLANT NEW TREES OR REPLACE EXISTING TREES ON TOWN PROPERTY THAT ARE IN DECLINE. 
          POOR HEALTH OR POSE A SAFETY CONCERN IS IDENTIFIED BY A REGISTERED ARBORIST. 
          A MINIMUM OF 75% OF THE FUND MUST BE USED TO PURCHASE PLANT AND IRRIGATE NEW TREES. 
          AND THEN THE REMAINING 25% MAY BE USED FOR ITEMS B AND C, WHICH IS TO CONDUCT MAINTENANCE ON EXISTING TREES AND THEN TO PERFORM AND MAINTAIN A CITYWIDE TREE. 
          INVENTORY PAYMENTS CONTRIBUTED TO THE TREE MITIGATION FUND MUST BE MADE PRIOR TO DEMOLITION. 
          SO THIS IS A BIG QUESTION OF WHEN ARE YOU GONNA TAKE IN THOSE FUNDS? AND SO BEFORE A DEVELOPER CAN REMOVE A TREE ON A SITE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT PAYMENT IN HAND IF THEY ARE PAYING INTO THE FUND INSTEAD OF MITIGATING ON SITE THE REQUIRED PAYMENT INTO THE FUND. 
          IF WE ESTABLISH IT ANNUALLY ON OCTOBER 1ST BY DEFINING THE COST PER CALIBER INCH OF TREE BECAUSE COST OF TREES GO UP, UM, THE COST IS ESTABLISHED BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND WILL BE BASED ON THE COMMERCIAL COST FOR FOUR INCH CALIBER CANOPY TREE MULTIPLIED BY 25% TO INCLUDE THE PLANTING AND IRRIGATION AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO WITH PLANTING THE TREE. 
          AND SO I SHOULD HAVE UPDATED THIS BECAUSE WE'VE ACTUALLY UPDATED IT FOR THE 2023 AND 2022 YEAR. 
          THE COST IS STILL $192 AN INCH, BUT WE DID DO THAT CHECK ON OCTOBER 1ST. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU HOW WE'VE MANAGED THE FUNDS THAT 
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WE'VE RECEIVED TO DATE. 
          SO IN FY 2122, UM, WE'RE COMING RIGHT OFF OF THE HILLS OF THAT BIG STRAIGHT LINE WINDSTORM THAT TOOK OUT OVER 200 TREES IN TOWN. 
          UM, AND WE STILL HAVEN'T MITIGATED ALL OF THOSE TREES. 
          UM, WE ROLLED OVER 79 TREES THAT NEEDED TO BE MITIGATED. 
          SO WE WENT DOWN FROM A LITTLE OVER 200 DOWN 79. 
          UM, YEAH, 227 WERE LOST. 
          AND IN THAT SAME YEAR WE REMOVED 114 TREES THAT WERE DEAD DISEASED OR OPPOSED A SAFETY CONCERN. 
          SO THE MOST COMMON REASON IF WE MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT WE NEED TO REMOVE A TREE IS THERE IS A BRANCH THAT SHOWS SIGNIFICANT CRACKING THAT IS VERY LARGE, THAT IS OVERHANGING A SIDEWALK, A HOME OR A ROADWAY BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE NOT ONLY FOR TREE HEALTH, BUT PUB PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          AND SO WHEN YOU SEE THOSE TREES THAT WERE REMOVED, IF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT REMOVED IT, THAT'S THE PRIMARY REASON. 
          UM, NOT ALL OF THOSE TREES WERE REMOVED BY US. 
          SOME OF 'EM WERE REMOVED BY WIND. 
          IN FACT, IF YOU'RE A FREQUENT USER OF THE REDING TRAIL DOWN GEORGE BUSH, GEORGE BUSH ELEMENTARY, YOU'LL SEE IT'S A COMMON THING TO PUT IN A FIX-IT APP REQUEST THAT THERE'S A HACKBERRY TREE THAT HAS BEEN BLOWN OVER. 
          AND SOME OF THOSE TREES IN THAT LIST ARE TREES LIKE THAT, THAT THEY, THEY EITHER JUST DIED BY NATURAL CAUSES OR, UM, WIND GOT TO THEM. 
          UM, THAT YEAR WE DID. 
          AND EVER SINCE THE WIND STORM WE HAVE BEEN KEEPING UP WITH, IF WE, WE TRY TO MITIGATE EVERYTHING THAT IS DAMAGED THE SAME YEAR THAT IS DAMAGED. 
          AND SO WE DID THAT THAT YEAR AND THEN WE PLANTED AN ADDITIONAL 12 TREES. 
          UM, WE RECEIVED FUNDS. 
          I I WON'T GO INTO, THIS IS A LOT OF NUMBERS AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE ALREADY THROWN A LOT OF INFORMATION AT Y'ALL THIS EVENING, BUT I'VE GOT MONEY IN HERE THAT SHOWS WHAT'S IN OUR OPERATIONS BUDGET. 
          SO THIS IS WHAT WE APPLY TO PLANTING TREES AND MAINTAINING THEM. 
          AND THEN IN THIS YEAR, THIS IS THE FUNDS THAT WE TOOK IN EITHER FROM DONATIONS OR FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR TREE MITIGATION FUNDS. 
          SO IN THAT YEAR WE SPENT $48,815 ON PLANTING TREES FROM THAT FUND. 
          AND THEN WE SPENT $10,910 ON TREE MAINTENANCE. 
          SO WE DIDN'T SPEND THE FULL 25% THAT YEAR. 
          UM, AND THEN IN 22 AND 23, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE CHIPPING AWAY AT THAT NUMBER OF TREES THAT WE NEED TO MITIGATE FROM THE WINDSTORM. 
          SO WE'RE DOWN TO 67 TREES. 
          UM, WE REMOVED 75 AND WE MITIGATED 118. 
          UM, I'M TRYING TO DO THE MAP THAT MIGHT HAVE GOT US CAUGHT UP. 
          I DON'T THINK WE ARE. 
          UM, AND SO THIS SHOWS WHAT, WHERE OUR, WHOOPS, WHERE OUR OPERATIONS BUDGET IS. 
          IT ALSO SHOWS THE MONEY THAT WE HAD COME IN FROM DEVELOPMENT AND DONATIONS. 
          AND THEN THE BLUE BOX SHOWS YOU A BREAKDOWN THAT WE SPENT $41,995 PLANTING TREES AND THEN $8,544 MAINTAINING TREES. 
          OKAY? AND THEN THIS YEAR IT'S, IT'S A WORK IN PRO PROCESS. 
          SO NOW THAT THIS ISN'T COMPLETE, UM, BUT IT SHOWS THAT WE ROLLED OVER, OKAY? WE ROLLED OVER 24 TREES STILL FROM THE STORM. 
          UM, OUR GOAL IS TO GET THAT KNOCKED OUT. 
          THIS YEAR WE REMOVED 85 TREES AND WE MITIGATED 67. 
          SO THAT'S TO DATE WHAT WE'VE DONE. 
          UM, WE'RE IN JULY RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ABOUT TO BE. 
          AND SO WE'RE NOT PLANTING TREES RIGHT NOW, BUT AS SOON AS WE GET INTO SEPTEMBER, WE'LL GO BACK INTO THE TREE PLANTING BUSINESS. 
          UM, SO THAT, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY TO POINT TO POINT OUT. 
          ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS THIS YEAR IS WE PURCHASED TREE SOFTWARE THAT ALLOWS US TO MANAGE OUR URBAN FOREST. 
          AND THEN WE PAID FOR A TREE SURVEY TO BE DONE THAT GIS LOCATES ALL OF OUR TREES ON TOWN PROPERTY AND PUT IT INTO THAT SOFTWARE SO WE CAN BEGIN USING THAT SOFTWARE AND MANAGING. 
          UM, ONCE AGAIN, I'M SHOWING YOU OUR OPERATIONS BUDGET FOR TREE PLANNING. 
          IF YOU NOTICE, WE TOOK SOME MONEY OUT OF OUR TREE PLANTING, BUT WE MOVED SOME TO, UM, OUR PRUNING AND REMOVAL BUDGET. 
          UM, WE ALSO USED A LITTLE BIT OF THAT MONEY WE NORMALLY DO IN TREE PLANTING TO PUT MORE SAW DOWN BECAUSE WE HAVE SHADED OUT A LOT OF OUR GROUND COVER AND SAW IN TOWN AND WE'RE HAVING TO GO BACK AND RE-VEGETATE THE UNDERSTORY. 
          UM, AND THEN THIS SHOWS THE DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE HAD COME IN THIS YEAR. 
          WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY DONATIONS, BUT WE DO HAVE THIS AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT HAS COME IN FROM TREE MITIGATION FUNDS. 
          UM, SO I THREW A BUNCH OF NUMBERS AT YOU AND YOU'RE PROBABLY ASKING, HOW ARE Y'ALL TRACKING THIS? HOW ARE YOU KEEPING TRACK OF THE TREES THAT YOU REMOVED, THE TREES THAT YOU MITIGATE, THE DOLLARS THAT COME IN, UM, MAKING SURE YOU DON'T SPEND MORE THAN 25% ON SOFTWARE AND MAINTENANCE. 
          AND SO THIS IS A BLOG THAT WE USE FOR WHERE THOSE DOLLARS ARE GOING, HOW YOU'VE APPLIED THEM, WHERE THEY'VE BEEN SPENT. 
          WE ALSO HAVE A SIMILAR SPREADSHEET THAT ALSO TRACKS 
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ALL THE TREES. 
          IF A TREE GOES DOWN IN A STORM, IT ENDS UP ON A SPREADSHEET SO WE KNOW TO MITIGATE IT. 
          AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THE AMOUNT OF DETAIL THAT GOES INTO US MANAGING THE URBAN FOREST. 
          SO IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT FORM, YOU WOULD SEE THAT TO DATE THERE'S $220,266 AVAILABLE IN TREE MITIGATION FUNDS, UM, FOR TREE PLANTING. 
          AND 23,885 AVAILABLE FOR MAINTENANCE BECAUSE WE SPENT A LITTLE BIT ON THAT SOFTWARE AND THE SURVEY, UM, FUNDS HAVE BEEN EARMARKED FOR THE FOLLOWING PROJECTS. 
          SO WE HAVE PLANS IN SEPTEMBER, UM, TO PLANT SOME MORE TREES AT SPRO DOG PARK. 
          THAT WAS IN RESULT AS A SURVEY THAT WE DID, UM, FOR DOG PARK USERS. 
          UM, WE ALSO ARE PLANNING FOR REFORESTATION NEEDS AT BOS PARK. 
          BOS HAS A LOT OF CHARACTER AND CHARM AND IT'S ALL DUE TO THE TREES, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE TREES IN THAT PARK ARE HACKBERRIES, WHICH HAVE ABOUT MET THEIR LIFE EXPECTANCY. 
          UM, AND WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THAT PARK WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE LOST THOSE TREES. 
          AND SO WE WANNA GO IN. 
          NOW SOME PEOPLE MAY THINK WE'RE CRAZY 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA PLANT TREES IN A HEAVILY FORESTED PARK. 
          UM, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO PLANT THOSE TREES AND LET THEM GET SOME SIZE ON 'EM. 
          SO WHEN WE DO LOSE THE HAG BERRIES, WE DON'T LOSE THE CHARM OF THE PARK. 
          UM, IN DECEMBER OF 2024. 
          SO COMING UP WE HAVE $60,000 EARMARKED FOR PLANTING TREES IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS. 
          SO WEDDING REDING TRAIL WEST, THE LOWE'S EXTENSION WHERE WE DID SOME PUBLIC WORKSTEAD PROJECT RECENTLY. 
          UM, THAT AREA NEEDS A LITTLE TLC. 
          IT ALSO HAS A LOT OF HACKBERRIES THAT HAVE BEEN BLOWN OVER, UM, AND THAT WE HAVE LOST. 
          AND SO WE HAVE PLANS TO GO AND FILL THAT IN. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW WHAT BECKER PARK LOOKED LIKE AFTER THE STORM, BUT IT REALLY WAS THE HARDEST HIT PART OF ADDISON. 
          THE TREES TOOK THE LARGEST HIT. 
          AND SO WE HAVE PLANS TO COME BACK IN AND ADD SOME OF THOSE AND TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL HERE AND THERE. 
          TREE FILL IN PLANTINGS TO REMOVE THINGS THAT, UM, WERE DAMAGED FROM STORMS OR FROM HEALTH ISSUES. 
          AND THEN IN FEBRUARY OF 2025, WE'LL PLAN, UM, ANOTHER $60,000 IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS. 
          AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA START DOING THE STORM MITIGATION FROM WHAT THE IMPACTS THAT WE JUST FELT. 
          UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE EARMARKED SOME MONEY TO TRANSPLANT SOME VERY EXIST LARGE EXISTING TREES ON THE CORN ROAD PROJECT BECAUSE THE TREES ON THAT PROJECT CREATE THE CHARACTER OF THAT SOUTHERN CORN BUSINESS DISTRICT. 
          AND IF WE WANT TO HAVE SOME FUNDS SET ASIDE TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THE AMLI TREE HOUSE PROJECT DID, WHERE THEY PULLED UP SOME OF THOSE VERY LARGE EXISTING TREES AND RELOCATED ON, UM, TO A SPACE THAT SAID THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDS HAVE GONE. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHEN WE PLANT TREES, WE HAVE TO KEEP THEM WATERED AND THE NORMAL IRRIGATION SYSTEM ISN'T ENOUGH RIGHT? WHEN THEY'RE PLANTED. 
          AND SO THAT DOES LIMIT US AND OUR ABILITY, WE CAN'T JUST TAKE, GO PLANT $220,000 WORTH OF TREES TOMORROW AND KEEP THEM ALIVE. 
          WE HAVE TO STAGGER THEM AND WE ALSO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE WEATHER. 
          AND SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF HAVE THIS TIMELINE LAID OUT IN OUR APPROACH. 
          UM, REAL QUICKLY, I WANNA GIVE YOU AN INVENTORY OF THE, UM, TREE SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED. 
          IT IS TREE CLOTTER. 
          UM, IT'S A LOT LIKE OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT TOOL. 
          IT HAS A LOT OF SIMILARITIES TO IT. 
          UM, AND I COULD GEEK OUT ON THIS ALL DAY LONG , UM, AND I WON'T DO THAT TO YOU, BUT, UM, OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE A WIDGET ON OUR WEBPAGE THAT CAN BE FORWARD FACING, THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN GO IN AND THEY CAN ACCESS THIS AND THEY CAN LOOK AT IT. 
          UM, AND SO WE HAVE A GOAL TO GET THERE WITH THEM. 
          BUT THIS MAP RIGHT HERE SHOWS YOU ALL OF THE TREES THAT WERE SURVEYED AND ALL OF THE TREES THAT ARE IN ADDISON. 
          AND SO REAL QUICKLY IT GIVES US AN IDEA OF HOW MANY TREES THAT WE HAVE. 
          UM, WE CAN REAL EASILY TOGGLE BECAUSE OUR SURVEY IDENTIFIED TREE HEALTH AND TREE CONDITION, WE CAN REAL EASILY TOGGLE AND SEE, OKAY, WHAT TREES ARE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE, WHAT ARE IN FAIR, IF THERE'S AN AREA THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN ALL THE TREES ARE IN FAIR SHAPE, THAT MIGHT MEAN WE NEED TO GO DO SOME MAINTENANCE THERE. 
          WE NEED TO LOOK INTO AN ISSUE. 
          UM, AND YOU'LL SEE WE'VE GOT SOME DEAD TREES MARKED ON HERE, AND SOME OF THOSE ARE FROM OUR RECENT STORM THAT WE JUST HAD. 
          UM, THE SOFTWARE CAN ALSO PROVIDE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT A TREE'S CONDITION. 
          SO IF YOU, IF YOU READ UP HERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A TREE THAT'S A LONG FESTIVAL WAY AND IT TELLS US THAT IT HAS CROWN DIE BACK, MECHANICAL DAMAGE AND SERIOUS DECLINE. 
          AND IT SHOWS YOU A PICTURE OF WHAT THE TREE LOOKS LIKE. 
          IF YOU NOTICE THERE'S A BIG PORTION OF THE TREE, UM, THAT'S DEAD, UM, FROM A PUBLIC STANDPOINT, THEY'LL START TO BECOME SAFETY CONCERNS FOR US WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE HANGING OVER WHERE PEOPLE ARE PARKING AND WALKING. 
          UM, AND IT GIVES YOU THE 
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LOCATION OF THE TREE AND THE NAME, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW BIG IT IS. 
          THIS IS A 15 INCH CALIBER TREE. 
          UM, WE CAN ALSO QUICKLY IDENTIFY TREES THAT MIGHT BE AT RISK FROM A THREAT. 
          SO, UM, ASH TREES RIGHT NOW ARE AT RISK OF EMERALD ASH BOAR. 
          AND SO I CAN QUICKLY TURN ON, UM, THE GENUS NAME, WHICH IS FRAUS AND I CAN HAVE THIS SHOW ME IN GREEN. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S ALL YOUR ASH TREES AND ADDISON AND THE FACT THAT A LOT OF 'EM ARE PLANTED REALLY CLOSE TOGETHER BECAUSE THE BOAR LIKES TO MOVE FROM TREE TO TREE, UM, LETS US KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A CONCERN, UM, WITH THAT INSECT COMING INTO THE METROPLEX AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE PLANNING FOR. 
          UM, IT CAN ALSO ASSIGN MAINTENANCE AND DOCUMENT THE TYPE OF MAINTENANCE AND THE STATUS OF THE WORK. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK RIGHT HERE, THIS IS SHOWING YOU, IT SAYS, UM, WR STATUS COMPLETED, COMPLETED, COMPLETED, ASSIGNED TO CONTRACTOR WORK TASK CROWN CLEAN. 
          SO THAT MEANS THE CONTRACTOR WENT IN AND PRUNE THE CROWN AND CLEANED IT. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT I SPREAD THIS OUT WIDE ENOUGH FOR YOU TO SEE, BUT THERE'S ALSO A DATE ASSIGNED WITH THAT SO WE CAN TRACK THAT. 
          YES, WE DID TOUCH THAT TREE ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS. 
          UM, SO THOSE ARE SOME IMPORTANT THINGS. 
          WE CAN ALSO SORT THOSE LIKE SHOW US ALL THE TREES THAT WE HAVEN'T RECENTLY MAINTAINED. 
          SO WE NEED TO PUT THOSE IN A LIST, BUT IT ALLOWS US TO ASSIGN WORK ORDERS TO OUR STAFF AND TO OUR CONTRACTOR. 
          UM, IT ALSO TRACKS TREES THAT HAVE BEEN LOST AND WILL NEED TO BE MITIGATED. 
          SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A TREE THAT, UM, WAS TAKEN OUT BY THE RECENT WINDSTORM THAT WE HAVE. 
          IT'S MARKED AS DEAD. 
          UM, IT WAS A 12 INCH CEDAR ELM. 
          AND SO WE KNOW NOW LET'S PUT THAT ON OUR MITIGATION LIST BECAUSE WE NEED TO GO IN AND MITIGATE THAT TREE. 
          UM, AND THEN IT CAN ALSO GIVE YOU JUST A VERY BROAD INVENTORY OF WHAT DO YOU HAVE AND, AND HOW WELL ARE YOU DOING. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK HERE, IT SHOWS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE TREES THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN ARE 12 TO 18 INCHES AND SIX TO 12 INCHES AND THEY'RE IN AND THEY WOULD BE RATED IN GOOD HEALTH. 
          UM, AND IT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME THAT ARE DEAD AND SOME THAT ARE IN POOR HEALTH AND THEN IT BREAKS IT DOWN INTO PERCENTAGE WISE. 
          SO IT KIND OF GIVES US A REALLY QUICK TOOL TO LOOK AT AND SEE ARE WE DOING A GOOD JOB MANAGING OUR URBAN FOREST? AND SO THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF IMPLEMENTING THAT SOFTWARE. 
          AND I THINK THE FUNDS FROM THE TREE MITIGATION FUND HAVE BEEN A VALUABLE TOOL FOR US. 
          WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS, UM, WITHOUT THOSE FUNDS OR WE WOULD'VE HAD TO HAVE DONE A DECISION PACKAGE REQUEST FOR A BUDGET, PUTTING MORE OF A STRAIN, UM, ON OTHER NEEDS BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT. 
          SO WITH THAT, UM, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. 
          WOW, THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING. 
          BRAVO. 
          HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN USING THAT SOFTWARE? UM, IT, WE STARTED COLLECTING ALL THE DATA IN SEPTEMBER AND SO WE STARTED USING THE SOFTWARE ABOUT IN NOVEMBER. 
          SO WE'RE PRETTY NEW USERS OF IT. 
          IT DOES A LOT OF MORE COMPLICATED THINGS THAN I SHOWED YOU, BUT I SHOWED YOU THE LEVEL OF WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING IT FOR AND THEN WE'LL GROW INTO IT. 
          WHO, WHO MANAGES THE SOFTWARE? SO MATT ANTED, OUR ARBORIST IS THE PER, AND HE'S ALSO KIND OF OUR PARKS ASSET MANAGEMENT PERSON. 
          UM, HE'S THE PERSON THAT MANAGES SOFTWARE BECAUSE THAT SOFTWARE IS JUST LIKE ASSET MANAGEMENT. 
          IT IS ONLY GOOD IS THE DATA THAT YOU KEEP CURRENT IN IT, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          AND SO, UM, HE'S OUT RIGHT NOW UPDATING ALL THE LOSSES FROM THE STORM AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING IT CURRENT. 
          SO WAS THE CONDITION OF ALL THOSE TREES MANUALLY PUT IN, LIKE SOMEBODY LOOKED AT IT OR IS THERE A WAY IT WAS MANUALLY PUT IN BY A THIRD PARTY AUS, SO IT WAS NOT MATT, IT WAS INITIALLY SET UP BY A TEAM OF ARBORISTS THAT WENT IN, INVENTORIED ALL OF OUR TREES, IDENTIFIED THEIR CONDITION AND THEN ENTERED IT INTO THE SOFTWARE, TAGGED THEM AND EVERYTHING. 
          THEY TAGGED THEM AND THEN THEY PROVIDED IT TO US IN A GIS FILE AND THEN OUR GIS TEAM ROLLED IT INTO THE SOFTWARE FOR US. 
          AND THEN PERIODICALLY WE GO AND REEVALUATE THOSE TREES, I GUESS. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          QUESTION. 
          SO WE HAD, IF YOU HAD A ROUND NUMBER, IF WE HAVE 200,000 CALIBER INCHES OF TREES TODAY AND A STORM COMES IN TWO MONTHS FROM NOW AND TAKES OUT 10%, YOUR CALCULATIONS OF FUTURE PLANTINGS AND GROWTH, ARE WE TRYING TO KEEP IT A PAR LEVEL? WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO MAINTAIN? ARE WE TRYING TO, TRYING TO TAKE WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW OUR SAME REQUIREMENT THAT WE WOULD OF ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER IN TOWN. 
          IF YOU LOSE A TREE DUE TO NATURAL CLOSETS, YOU NEED TO REPLACE IT WITH A FOUR INCH TREE. 
          IF YOU'RE REMOVING A TREE BECAUSE IT'S CONVENIENT FOR YOU, UM, OR FOR A NEW USE, YOU NEED TO REPLACE A CALIBER INCH FOR CALIBER INCH. 
          AND SO THAT, THAT IS OUR PHILOSOPHY. 
          IF WE'RE REQUIRING THAT OF OTHERS, WE REQUIRE IT OF OURSELVES. 
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AND WHY IS IT, UM, APPROXIMATELY FOUR INCH CALIBER TO RECALL? SO IT'S $192 A CALIBER INCH. 
          SO IT'S A LITTLE UNDER $800. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WE'RE CHARGING, YOU'RE ADDING 25% ONTO THAT. 
          I GAVE YOU THE NUMBER WITH THE 25% ADDED IN IT. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO THAT GETS YOU ALL IN PLANTED, IRRIGATED. 
          SO IT'S THE PRICE PLUS 25%. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO AS A RESIDENT, IF I LOSE A TREE AND FOR WHATEVER REASON DECIDE I DON'T REPLAN, I SHOULD BE PAYING THAT 800, ALMOST $800 TO TWO PARKS? NO, NO. 
          SO OUR TREE MITIGATION OR OUR TREE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS IN OUR LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE ONLY APPLIES TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, NOT RESIDENTIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WHAT APPLIES IN OUR LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IS THAT YOU NEED TO MAINTAIN AND KEEP A SET SAFE CONDITION. 
          UM, BUT WE DON'T REQUIRE THE MITIGATION AND TO TREAT PRESERVATION LIKE WE DO WITH COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMERCIAL, UH, HOW DO YOU DEFINE COMMERCIAL MULTIFAMILY? IS THAT COMMERCIAL IT? YES. 
          UM, THERE'S SOME THAT ARE, I GUESS WOULD BE OWNER OCCUPIED THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          LIKE I THINK DISTRICT A WOULD BE A , UM, THAT WE MAINTAIN THE TREES AND THE TREES, THE STREETSCAPE, THOSE ARE OURS. 
          UM, SO THAT ONE WOULD BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT YES, FOR THE MOST PART IT'S MULTIFAMILY, MULTIFAMILY OFFICE INDUSTRIAL RE RETAIL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT IT. 
          THANKS. 
          I APPRECIATE ALL YOU'RE DOING. 
          I THINK, UM, YOUR WORK IS SO IMPORTANT TO OUR TOWN. 
          I THINK THAT CANOPY IS SO UNIQUE AND IT MAKES US, WE ARE, LIKE WE SAID EARLIER, WHEN YOU COME INTO THE TOWN, YOU KNOW YOU'RE IN ADDISON BECAUSE OF THAT CANOPY. 
          AND I'M SO HAPPY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. 
          I I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND SOME OF THESE MIGHT JUST BE COMMENTS, BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, SO MARLIN'S COMMENT ABOUT RESIDENTIAL, UM, I HAD THIS AS A QUESTION, BUT AFTER SEEING YOUR BUDGET AND YOUR EXPENSES, I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT I WOULD LOVE AT SOME POINT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF FUND OPEN TO OUR RESIDENCE TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A STORE LIKE WE'VE HAD, HAVE ACCESS SOMEHOW TO REPLANT THE TREES IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS WHAT WE SEE IN OUR COMMERCIAL AREAS. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU, YOU'RE SPENDING ALL THIS TIME ON INVENTORYING THE TREES. 
          I I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US DO SOME SORT OF PROGRAM WHERE WE LABEL CERTAIN TREES AND MAYBE IT'S BY AGE OR SIZE. 
          I, I KNOW THEY'RE CALLED DIFFERENT THINGS IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, BUT LEGACY TREES OR PROTECTED TREES WHERE YOU SAY THIS TREE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE A DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD TELL A DEVELOPER, HEY LISTEN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A FIGHT ON YOUR HANDS. 
          WE WILL DIE ON OUR SWORD FOR THIS TREE BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T WANNA LOSE IT BECAUSE OF THE AGE, BECAUSE IT MEANS SOMETHING TO US DEVELOP AROUND IT. 
          BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, SOME OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO, IS THAT WITH OUR STAFF OR IS THAT THROUGH A THIRD PARTY VENDOR? BOTH. 
          UM, SO OUR STAFF DOES GO AND PRUNE AND MAINTAIN AND FERTILIZE AND THEIR DAY TO DAY CHECKING TREE HEALTH. 
          OUR STAFF DOESN'T CLIMB TREES AND SO ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES SOMEBODY TO GET UP INTO A TREE CANOPY, WE HAVE A CONTRACT, UM, WITH AN ARBORIST THAT THEY COME IN AND THEY PERFORM THAT WORK FOR US. 
          AND THEN THE, THE FEE, SINCE IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO WHAT YOU DO, IS IT COMPETITIVE? IS IT MAYBE, IS THERE ROOM TO RAISE THAT FEE? SO WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT, AND WE CAN, WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO ANOTHER CHECK BECAUSE THIS WAS LIKE THREE YEARS AGO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, UM, BUT WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE SAME CITIES THAT YOU'VE SEEN FOR THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FEES AND WE USE THAT TO DEVELOP OUR POLICY AND ESTABLISH OUR FEES THAT WE WERE CHARGING. 
          UM, AND SO I FEEL LIKE WE ARE COMPETITIVE, BUT WE CAN DO A CHECK IN ON THAT. 
          UM, AND LIKE I SAID, ONCE A YEAR WE DO CHECK THAT PRICE THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED. 
          WE CHECK THAT WITH OUR VENDOR THAT WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S STILL IN LINE AND IF THE PRICE GOES UP, WE ADJUST THAT PRICE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'VE SAT THROUGH, UM, P AND D MEETINGS BEFORE AND WAS TOLD THAT THE HEALTH OF SOME OF THE TREES IN AN AREA THAT WAS BEING DEVELOPED, THEY'RE NOT WORTH SAVING. 
          WHO MAKES THAT DETERMINATION? IS THAT SOMEONE IN YOUR OFFICE? SO WE, WE USUALLY LIKE TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT PARTY. 
          WE DO HAVE AN ARBORIST THAT CAN GO LOOK AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          UM, IF IT'S A, A TREE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY TO SAVE. 
          UM, WE 
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ALWAYS LIKE TO, IF WE CAN DO IT, TO HAVE AN UNBIASED, UM, ALSO PARTY COME IN AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE ARE SEEING THEY AGREE WITH. 
          SO WE HAVE KIND OF CHECKS AND BALANCES THAT MAKE SURE THAT THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING WOULD ALSO BE SUPPORTED BY ANOTHER AORIST IN THE INDUSTRY. 
          AND SO WE DO THAT A LOT. 
          WE DID THAT ON MIDWAY ROAD WAS AN EXAMPLE. 
          YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING. 
          THAT MY LAST QUESTION, UM, ARE YOU GETTING ANY HELP FROM THE ARBOR FOUNDATION? UM, IF YOU LOOK FOR, I THINK IT WAS 20 21, 22, AND THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR THEY DID MAKE A DONATION. 
          I THINK IT WAS LIKE 8,000 AND $7,000. 
          UM, DON'T GOT THE EXACT NUMBERS IN THAT CHART OF WHEN THEY HAVE IN FOR TREES, UM, OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, 2022. 
          BUT THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE ACTIVELY PLANTING TREES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          THEY NOT, THEY PROVIDE US FUNDS AS REIMBURSEMENT FOR PLANTING TREES. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          SO ON OUR TOWN WEBSITE IS A REFERENCE OF I I'M A HOMEOWNER, I HAVE SOME PRUNING, I NEED THAT AS BOLD SILVER, SILVER MAPLES. 
          DO WE HAVE LISTS OF ARBORISTS TO BE USED TO GET UP IN THE TREES? DO WE, DO WE RECOMMEND AS CONTRACTORS? SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN PROVIDE A LIST OF ARBORISTS THAT ARE REGISTERED WITH THE TOWN. 
          UM, BUT IF WE START MAKING RE RECOMMENDATIONS BEYOND THAT WHEN WE HAVEN'T HAD A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEBODY, UM, WE COULD PUT OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT AT RISK, BUT WE COULD RECOMMEND OUR CENTER REGISTER COUNTY. 
          SO NOT A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A LIST IS PROBABLY A BETTER ANSWER. 
          THAT WOULD BE MY, BECAUSE THEN YOUR TREE GUYS, THAT'S WHY I'M JUST CURIOUS. 
          SO JEN, JUST UH, CAN YOU CLARIFY FOR ME JUST A LITTLE BIT ON, ON UH, SLIDE NINE ON THE 2324 PARKS DEPARTMENT? UH, SO THE, THE FUNDS THAT ARE IN THERE, THE, THE, UH, 363,000, WHICH WE SEE HOW IT'S DETAILED THAT, SO THOSE ARE FROM, JUST SO I CAN EXPLAIN THIS TO SOMEBODY AND MYSELF. 
          UM, SO, SO SKY HARBOR GAVE $98,000, IS THAT BECAUSE THEY, THEY HAD TO CUT DOWN TREES AND THAT'S HOW THEY MITIGATED THEM BY PUTTING MONEY IN? YES. 
          AND THAT ONE'S A UNIQUE ONE BECAUSE THAT'S ON AIRPORT PROPERTY WHERE WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS, UM, THAT YOU CAN'T PLANT BACK TREES ON AIRPORT PROPERTY. 
          WE ALLOW A COUPLE OF MAYBE OR SMALL ORNAMENTAL TREES THAT DON'T ATTRACT BIRDS, UM, OR WILDLIFE THAT ATTRACTS BIRDS. 
          UM, BECAUSE THE AIRPORT, UM, HAS A BIG ISSUE WITH BIRDS AROUND THE AIRPORT FOR SAFETY REASONS. 
          UM, BUT WE MADE A DETERMINATION THAT IF THERE WERE MOVING TREES THAT OUR ORDINANCE SAYS ALL TREES THAT ARE REMOVED NEED TO BE MITIGATED. 
          SO ALL OF THOSE FUNDS WENT INTO TREE MITIGATION FUND. 
          THERE WERE NO TREES MITIGATED ON SITE ON THAT PROJECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN THE OTHER ONES, THOSE ARE THE, THEY WOULD BE THE TYPICAL EXACT EXAMPLE. 
          THEY REMOVED SOME TREES AND THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO REPLACE SO THEY, THEY PAID, THEY PAID INTO THE FUND, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IN A LOT OF THESE INSTANCES THEY DID PLANT A LOT OF TREES BACK ON THEIR SITE. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF ROOM TO DO THAT. 
          THIS IS JUST THE DEFICIT THAT THEY COULD NOT PLANT ON THEIR SITE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE NUMBER. 
          SO THE BOTTOM OF THAT, YOU HAVE $363,000 AND THEN TWO SLIDES LATER IT SAYS YOU HAVE 220,000 AVAILABLE IN TREAT MITIGATION FUNDS. 
          SO HELP ME SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS THERE. 
          YEAH, SO THIS FUND HAS BEEN TRACKING SINCE WE RECEIVED OUR VERY FIRST PAYMENT, WHICH WAS IN FY 21. 
          AND SO THIS IS TRACKING EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SPENT. 
          AND IT'S TRACKING THE 25% FOR MAINTENANCE AND THE 75% FOR TREE PLANTING. 
          AND SO I TOOK THAT NUMBER FROM THE REMAINING BALANCE, UM, THAT'S ON THIS SPREADSHEET THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH WE HAVE AVAILABLE. 
          COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE, THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE? SURE. 
          AND ALSO WHEN YOU SEE THAT 360 3, THAT INCLUDES SOME GENERAL FUND AS WELL, RIGHT? SO THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE TREE MITIGATION FUND SHE'S SHOWING? YES. 
          THE, THESE TOP TWO ITEMS ARE OURS THAT ARE IN OUR OPERATIONS. 
          SO THAT, SO THAT THOSE FUNDS DIDN'T ACTUALLY GO INTO THE TREE MITIGATION FUNDS OR, OR THEY DIDN'T? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THESE TWO, THESE TWO FUNDS ARE IN OUR OPERATIONS BUDGET. 
          GOTCHA. 
          THESE FUNDS, THE MAJORITY OF 'EM ARE STILL IN A REVENUE ACCOUNT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND HAVEN'T BEEN MOVED TO, I'M LOOKING AT OUR FINANCE PERSON, HAVEN'T BEEN MOVED TO AN EXPENSE ACCOUNT. 
          WE DO THAT WHEN WE DETERMINE PROJECTS. 
          WE'LL GET WITH STEVEN AND SAY WE'RE GONNA SPEND $60,000 ON TREE PLANNING AND THEN THAT'S WHEN HE DOES A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO MOVE IT FROM REVENUE, UM, TO EXPENSE. 
          SO THEN WE CAN USE THOSE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT HELPS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DAN? YEAH, LAST ONE. 
          SO BACK TO OUR GUEST SPEAKER, TRICIA STEWART, WHO'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE TOWN IS JUST TAKING LEGACY TREES AND THEN SOME CALIPER INCHES OUT. 
          HOW DO WE ANSWER THAT? CAN 
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WE ANSWER THAT QUESTION? I GUESS THE BETTER WAY, CAN WE ANSWER THAT QUESTION THAN WE ARE LISTENING? MM-HMM. 
           AND REPLANTING AND OR, YEAH. 
          SO THE FIRST THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS OUR JOB IS TO MANAGE THE ORBIT URBAN FOREST AND ALSO IMPLEMENT OUR LANDSCAPE ORDINANCES. 
          AND OUR LANDSCAPE ORDINANCES DON'T HAVE A CLASSIFICATION FOR LEGACY TREES. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BAD IDEA, UM, FOR US TO HAVE THAT, BUT WE DON'T. 
          AND SO I CAN'T APPLY SOMETHING TO A DEVELOPER THAT'S MORE STRICT THAN WHAT OUR ORDINANCE SAYS WE SHOULD BE DOING. 
          UM, SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE'RE FOLLOWING OUR ORDINANCE. 
          UM, I THINK WITH THE UDC UPDATE, UM, COMING BACK UP THAT IT'S A GOOD TIME TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMITTEE THAT'S GUIDING THAT PROCESS TO SEE WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS OF HAVING LEGACY TREES AND WHAT, WHAT SHOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO. 
          AND THEN YOU HAD A SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS. 
          ARE WE MAINTAINING OUR TREES? SO ARE WE, ARE WE WE'RE TAKING OUT A THOUSAND CALIBER INCHES. 
          ARE WE PUTTING A THOUSAND BACK IN OR 1200 BACK IN? SO IF WE'RE TAKING OUT A THOUSAND CALIBER INCHES, WE'RE NOT ALWAYS PUTTING A THOUSAND BACK BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING SOME OF THOSE FUNDS ON TREE MAINTENANCE AND THE SOFTWARE. 
          BUT I DO FEEL LIKE EVERY DECISION THAT WE'RE MAKING IS TO BENEFIT THE URBAN FOREST AND TO BETTER IT AND TO PROTECT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN WHAT ABOUT HOA AND SO NANCY  ANSWER THIS, SO HAVE TO LIVE ON THE STREET WHERE THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF LEGACY TREES THAT THE OWNERS OF THE HOMES ARE NOT PRUNING, PERIOD. 
          THEY ARE GOING TO COME DOWN IN PUBLIC SPACES. 
          WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND? UM, SO THAT WOULD BE A CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          IF WE DO NOT THINK THAT THE TREES ARE BEING MAINTAINED TO A HEALTHY CONDITION, UM, WE WOULD NEED TO, OUR TEAM WORKS WITH LESLIE'S TEAM VERY CLOSELY 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT THE ARBORIST AND THEN, UM, THEY'RE THE ENFORCEMENT ANGELS. 
          SO WE WORK TOGETHER, UM, TO GET WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND GIVE THEM TIMELINES TO COMPLETE THAT. 
          SO RECOMMEND THE HOA PRESIDENT, BRING IT TO TOWN. 
          RECOMMEND THE HOMEOWNER. 
          IF IF IT, IF IT, IF IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, IT'S A WHOEVER AND OF HOA PRESIDENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          FIX IT OUT, TAKE A PICTURE, SEND IT IN, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM WILL GO OUT. 
          THAT'S WHAT THE FIX IT APP IS THERE FOR. 
          THERE'S NO NEED TO GO THROUGH EXTRA LAND. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THOUGHT 'EM, I'M SORRY. 
          SO I CAN TALK ABOUT TREES ON THAT . 
          CAREFUL CHRIS. 
          YEAH. 
          KNOW. 
          SO, UH, SO YOU MENTIONED HAVING A PERMIT, RIGHT? TO DO BUSINESS IN THE TOWN. 
          UM, IS, IS THAT THERE TO PREVENT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A BUSINESS OWNER THAT SAYS, MAN, I'VE GOT THIS GRAY TREE AND, AND FOR MY BUSINESS, BUT IT'S COVERING UP MY BUSINESS. 
          IS THAT TO PREVENT, LIKE, MY THOUGHT IS YOU'RE GETTING PEOPLE PERMITTED BECAUSE YOU'RE TELLING 'EM EXACTLY WHAT OUR STANDARDS ARE. 
          WE DON'T LIE AND TAIL THE, THE TREE ARE ARE WE, ARE WE ENFORCING THAT? LIKE DO WE, ARE WE EDUCATING OUR COMMERCIAL OR BUSINESS OWNERS THAT HEY, IF YOU WERE GOING TO CLEAN THE TREE, WE HAVE CERTAIN STANDARDS, WE HAVE CERTAIN VENDORS WE THAT WE KNOW OR TALK. 
          YEAH, WE ACTUALLY DO AN EMAIL CLASS ONCE A YEAR. 
          UM, IN FACT, WE'RE COMING UP ON THAT TIME TO DO THAT AGAIN. 
          UM, TO OUR BUSINESS, OUR THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE DO AN EMAIL CLASS JUST AS A FYI, HERE'S THE OVERARCHING THINGS ABOUT OUR TREAT ORDINANCE. 
          UM, HERE'S SOME CRITERIA. 
          SO THEY KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO GET A PERMIT, THEY NEED TO USE AN ARBOROUS REGISTER WITH THE TOWN. 
          UM, WE JUST DRAFTED SOME STUFF THAT MARY'S HELPING US GET OUT ABOUT. 
          IF YOU LOST A TREE 'CAUSE OF THE WIND STORM, YOU NEED TO PLAN IT BACK. 
          AND WE, OUR ORDINANCE SAYS 30 DAYS, BUT WE DON'T WANT ANY, ANYBODY PLAN ANY TREES THIS MONTH? SO WE GAVE 'EM A DEADLINE, UM, AND GAVE THEM THE PROCESS TO BEGIN THAT. 
          SO WE DO COMMUNICATION. 
          COULD, COULD WE DO MORE? UM, WE COULD ALWAYS FORM. 
          UM, AND WE WILL LOOK TO SEE WHERE ARE THOSE WAYS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE IN GETTING THAT INFORMATION ON. 
          ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU JANET. 
          NOTES FOR TONIGHT AS ALWAYS. 
          APPRECIATE YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT, SO, ALRIGHT, HERE WE GO ON ITEM FOUR C. 
          WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THAT TO THE END OF THE MEETING AFTER WE GET THROUGH OUR, WITH OUR REGULAR MEETING AND ITEM 
          [d.  Present and discuss the Proposed Annual Budget for the Town of Addison for Fiscal Year 2025 (beginning October 1, 2024, and ending September 30, 2025), including, but not limited to, the General Fund, Utility Fund, Stormwater Fund, Airport Fund, Hotel Fund, Economic Development Fund, Information Technology Fund, Capital Replacement Fund, Infrastructure Investment Fund, and Long-Term Planning.  ]
FOUR D, WE'RE GOING TO POSTPONE THAT AND WE'LL BRING THAT TO OUR JULY MEETING. 
          SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A BREAK AT THIS TIME AT 6 49. 
          UH, TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND WE'LL, WE'LL UH, GO, UH, READ ADJOURN IN THE OTHER. 
          READ ADJOURN, RE RECONVENE, CONVENE, CONVENE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          RECONVENE IN THE NEXT ROOM AT, AT THE, IN THE 10 MINUTES. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. 
          IT IS SEVEN OH TWO AND WE WILL CALL THE ORDER OF THIS MEETING OF THE ADDISON 
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CITY COUNCIL ON UH, JUNE 25TH. 
          AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT OF THE COUNCIL WITH ALL MEMBERS INTER ATTENDANCE. 
          AND AS ALWAYS, WE'D LIKE TO START OUR MEETING WITH THE PLEDGES TO BOTH OF OUR FLAGS. 
          IF YOU'D PLEASE RISE. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO REPUBLIC FOR ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE. 
          WITH LIBERTY. 
          LIBERTY, JUSTICE, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE IN INDIVISIBLE. 
          ALRIGHT, THANKS EVERYBODY. 
          NICE TO SEE YOU ALL JOINING US THIS EVENING. 
          WE'LL GO RIGHT 
          [a.  City Manager's Announcements  ]
INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PROCLAMATIONS PRESENTATIONS. 
          WE HAVE CITY MANAGER ANNOUNCEMENTS AND EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION. 
          DAVID GAINES. 
          THANKS MAYOR. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT AS WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, FOR OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          THE ADVANCED ADDISON 2050 PROJECT TEAM INVITES YOU TO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MOVIE NIGHT, TOMORROW NIGHT, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 28TH FROM SIX TO 8:00 PM HERE AT ADDISON CONFERENCE CENTER. 
          WE'LL BE SHOWCASING A TALK FROM THE WORLD RENOWNED URBAN PLANNER AND LECTURER, LECTURER JEFF SPECK ABOUT WHY WALKABILITY MATTERS. 
          THE PROJECT TEAM AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAVE DEVELOPED NEW MAPS AND IDEAS REGARDING ADDISON'S MORE CONNECTED FUTURE AND THEY LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THEM WITH YOU. 
          NEXT, JOIN US WITH YOUR FOUR-LEGGED FRIEND FOR OUR FIRST BARKS AND BEAT EVENT THIS THURSDAY, JUNE 27TH FROM SIX TO 8:00 PM HERE AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK AT JAVA HOPS. 
          ENJOY SOCIALIZING WITH OTHER PET PARENTS AND LIVE MUSIC PRESENTED BY ADDISON OUTDOORS. 
          LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. 
          UH, NEXT ADDIS, UH, AGAIN ON THE ANIMAL THEME. 
          ADDISON'S ANIMAL CONTROL TEAM IS HOSTING A PET ADOPTION DAY ON SATURDAY, JUNE 29TH FROM ONE TO 4:00 PM AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          THIS NEW EVENT WILL BE HELD ON THE LAST SATURDAY OF EVERY MONTH. 
          MOVING FORWARD, FOUR AND I, I KNOW EVERYONE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS. 
          DON'T FORGET THAT ADDISON KABOOM TOWN IS COMING UP NEXT WEEK ON JULY 3RD, ADDISON CIRCLE PARK WHERE WE WILL, WE'LL BE CLOSED FOR SETUP AND TEAR DOWN OF ADDISON KABOOM TOWN FROM THURSDAY, JUNE 27TH THROUGH FRIDAY, JULY 5TH. 
          THERE WILL ALSO BE AREA ROAD CLOSURES BEGINNING THE MORNING OF JULY 3RD. 
          THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE, AND WE'RE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. 
          FINALLY, AS WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY DONE, WE WILL BE CANCELING THE FIRST CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN JULY. 
          THIS, THIS BREAK ALLOWS STAFF EXTRA TIME TO WRAP UP THE BUDGET, WHICH WILL BE SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL AT THE END OF JULY. 
          THOSE ARE ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT WE HAVE, AND WE'LL MOVE 
          [b.  Employee Recognition]
ON TO EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION. 
          AND FIRST, I'LL INVITE SARAH KLER UP TO INTRODUCE SUI. 
          IT'S NOT ON, I'M SORRY. 
          LET ME START OVER. 
          . 
          I'M SARAH KLER, I'M CHIEF OF STAFF. 
          I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO INTRODUCE SUI RAO, OUR VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR FOR THE TOWN. 
          UM, SINCE JOINING US IN JANUARY OF 2023, SUSHI HAS MADE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. 
          SHE GREW UP IN OCEAN CITY, NEW JERSEY, AND EARNED HER BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN PSYCHOLOGY FROM RUTGERS UNIVERSITY. 
          GROWING UP NEAR THE BEACH INSTILLED A LOVE OF OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES FOR SUSHI. 
          SHE NOW RESIDES IN KAEL WITH HER HUSBAND AND TWO CHILDREN WHERE SHE HAS LIVED FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS. 
          ONE OF SUSHI'S PROUDEST ACHIEVEMENTS IS THE REMARKABLE, REMARKABLE GROWTH OF ADDISON'S VOLUNTEER PROGRAM. 
          THE PROGRAM UNFORTUNATELY SAW A STEEP DECLINE IN VOLUNTEERS DUE TO COVID-19 DROPPING TO ONLY ABOUT 30 PARTICIPANTS. 
          SINCE SUSHI HAS JOINED US AND UNDER HER LEADERSHIP, IT HAS NOW EXPANDED TO ABOUT 250 PARTICIPANTS, INCLUDING VOLUNTEERS, INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTORS, PARK CLEANUP PARTICIPANTS AND COMMUNITY AND CORPORATE PARTNERS OUTSIDE OF WORK. 
          SUSHI IS PASSIONATE ABOUT DANCING. 
          SHE HAS BEEN STUDYING INDIAN CLASSICAL DANCE FOR SEVEN YEARS, A DISCIPLINE KNOWN FOR ITS INTRICATE FOOTWORK, SPINS, AND GRACEFUL MOVEMENTS. 
          THERE ARE SEVEN LEVELS OF MAST MASTERY IN THIS DANCE FORM, EACH REQUIRING VIGOROUS, PRACTICAL AND WRITTEN EXAMS. BY THE END OF HER 10 YEAR JOURNEY, SHE WILL HAVE THE EQUIVALENT OF A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN DANCING. 
          SUSHI'S PATH TO ADDISON BEGAN WITH THE METRO CRAFT CHAMBER. 
          SHE SENT HER RESUME TO THE CHAMBER, WHERE THEN PRESIDENT HAYDEN AUSTIN RECOGNIZED HER POTENTIAL AND INFORMED HER ABOUT THE VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR POSITION WITH THE TOWN. 
          BASED ON HER RESUME, HE BELIEVED THAT SHE WOULD BE A PERFECT FIT, AND HE WAS RIGHT. 
          SOCHI FEELS PROUD TO WORK FOR THE TOWN, AND BASED OFF HER STORY, BELIEVED SHE WAS DESTINED TO BE HERE. 
          WHEN ASKED WHAT THE ADDISON WAY MEANS TO HER, SOCHI STATED, IT'S ALL ABOUT 
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PROVIDING EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE WITH A SMILE. 
          PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING SUJI. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, SUSHI. 
          OUR OUR NEXT INTRODUCTION NEEDS NO INTRODUCTION. 
          UH, THIS IS, UH, OR, UH, CHIEF JONES IS GONNA, UH, INTRODUCE CJ ALEXANDER AND RECOGNIZE HIM FOR AN ACCOMPLISHMENT OF HIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          DAVID JONES, FIRE CHIEF. 
          I'M PLEASED TO INTRODUCE TONIGHT CJ ALEXANDER. 
          OUR ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF CJ JOINED OUR TEAM IN 2019. 
          HE CAME FROM, HE COMES TO US FROM ALLEN, TEXAS, WHERE HE GRADUATED ALLEN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WENT ON TO EARN HIS ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE IN APPLIED SCIENCE AND FIRE TECHNOLOGY. 
          HE ALSO HOLDS A BACHELOR'S IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AND A MASTER'S DEGREE IN MANAGEMENT, BOTH FROM TEXAS A AND M COMMERCE. 
          AND DESPITE THE UPS AND DOWNS, CJ'S A LOYAL FAN OF THE DALLAS COWBOYS. 
          STILL, CJ IS A DEDICATED FAMILY MAN WHO CHERISHES HIS WIFE STEPHANIE, HIS HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEART. 
          THEY HAVE FOUR KIDS, HALEY, AUSTIN, MCKENZIE, AND JACKSON. 
          ONE OF CJ'S PROUDEST ACHIEVEMENTS IS RAISING FOUR WONDERFUL KIDS. 
          WITH STEPHANIE PROFESSIONALLY, HE'S THRILLED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OF WORKING WITH GREAT PEOPLE IN ADDISON PLACE. 
          HE FEELS LUCKY TO BE A PART OF AND OUTSIDE OF WORK. 
          CJ LOVES BASEBALL. 
          HE COACHES A SELECT YOUTH BASEBALL TEAM, AND CJ SAID, AFTER VISITING WITH ME OVER ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, UH, THAT HE KNEW ADDISON WAS A PERFECT FIT FOR HIM. 
          HE WAS IMPRESSED WITH OUR PASSION FOR THE FIRE SERVICE AND LOVE FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON. 
          AND TO HIM, THE ADDISON WAY MEANS HELPING PEOPLE WHENEVER YOU CAN, WHETHER SERVING THE TOWN CITIZENS OR SUPPORTING THE DEPARTMENT, CJ'S COMMITTED TO MAKING A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIVES THROUGH SERVICE AND CARE. 
          SO PLEASE HELP ME JOIN OR JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING CJ. 
          AND NOW, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO COMMEND CHIEF ALEXANDER FOR HIS RECENT ACHIEVEMENT. 
          OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, CJ'S BEEN ADVANCING HIS ED, HIS EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE THROUGH THE NATIONAL FIRE ACADEMY EXECUTIVE FIRE OFFICER PROGRAM. 
          IT'S CALLED EFO IN EMMITSBURG, MARYLAND, EFO PROVIDES A UNIQUE RESIDENTIAL PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR SENIOR LEVEL FIRE AND EMS LEADERS. 
          DURING THE PROGRAM, PARTICIPANTS GAIN LEADERSHIP SKILLS TO STRENGTHEN THEIR ORGANIZATIONS AND HELP MAKE THEIR COMMUNITIES MORE RESILIENT. 
          THE DIVERSE POOL OF PARTICIPANTS BECOME ENHANCED DECISION MAKERS AND INNOVATIVE COLLABORATORS. 
          ACCEPT ACCEPTANCE TO THIS INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED PROGRAM IS THROUGH A COMPETITIVE SELECTION PROCESS. 
          IT INCLUDES A 10 DAY RESIDENCY COURSE, A THREE DAY COURSE, OR, AND THREE SIX DAY COURSES AT THE MARYLAND CAMPUS. 
          SO TO FULFILL THE RESEARCH REQUIREMENTS OF THE EFO PROGRAM, STUDENTS MUST COM COMPLETE A CAPSTONE RESEARCH PAPER AT AN EXECUTIVE LEVEL OVER A 10 WEEK PERIOD. 
          AS AN EFO ALUMNI MYSELF, I UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF THIS CREDENTIAL. 
          IT REQUIRES A LOT OF WORK AND COMMITMENT, BUT IT'S ALSO AN OUTSTANDING OPPORTUNITY AND PROFESSIONAL NETWORK EXPERIENCE. 
          I'M VERY PROUD TO SHARE CJ'S CJ ALEXANDER'S SUCCESS IN THIS PROGRAM, AND I WANNA FORMALLY, FORMALLY ACKNOWLEDGE HIS EFFORTS AND CONGRATULATE HIM ON BECOMING AN EFO GRADUATE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THIS IS, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE TO DO IT IN FRONT OF MAYOR. 
          IT DOESN'T COUNT. 
          LET'S GO, MAKE ME LOOK TALL. 
          . 
          THAT'S ALL FOR US, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, DAVID. 
          I REALLY LIKE THAT PART OF OUR MEETING SO MUCH. 
          ALRIGHT, 
          [3. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.]
ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ITEMS THAT ARE EITHER ON THE AGENDA OR NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES. 
          AND I DO HAVE TWO PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS. 
          AND FIRST I WILL CALL ON TRICIA STEWART. 
          AND WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. 
          HI, TRICIA STEWART, 1 5 7 5 5 SEA BOLT. 
          AND, UH, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I HAVE LOTS OF NOTES EVERYWHERE, AND SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO PUT THEM TOGETHER IN A COHESIVE, UH, THING. 
          OH, MY TIME'S GOING. 
          HI, UH, DEAR COUNSEL. 
          UM, I HEAR A LOT ABOUT THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE OF OUR LAND, AND I GUESS I MUST HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS BECAUSE TO ME IT MEANS MAKING DECISIONS THAT WILL AFFECT SEVEN GENERATIONS. 
          AND IT'S A PRINCIPLE THAT MAYBE MIGHT AFFECT YOUR DECISIONS, UM, TODAY. 
          AND SHOOT, I JUST LEFT IT BACK THERE. 
          I MET WITH FOUR NEW ADDISON RESIDENTS, THESE LITTLE BABIES AND THEIR PARENTS, AND I WAS SO HAPPY 
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TO CONNECT THESE YOUNG FAMILIES. 
          AND I'M GOING TO PUT A SIGN IN MY GARDEN WITH THEIR NAME. 
          AND WHENEVER YOU WALK PAST MY GARDEN, I HOPE THAT YOU REMEMBER THAT YOUR DECISIONS ARE GOING TO AFFECT FUTURE GENERATIONS. 
          SS NOEL AND WW JULIAN, UM, ARE FOUNDERS OF OUR TOWN. 
          THEY UNDERSTOOD THIS BECAUSE WHENEVER THEY GAVE LAND TO THE RAILROAD, BECAUSE THEY KNEW ADDISON NEEDED TO DEVELOP AND GROW, THEY ALSO DEDICATED LAND TO A SCHOOL. 
          THEY DEDICATED LAND TO CHURCHES, THEY DEDICATED LAND TO COMMUNITY, UM, FUNCTIONS. 
          AND WE ARE SO BLESSED. 
          WE HAVE SO MANY WONDERFUL THINGS, BUT WE HAVE 200 RESTAURANTS AND NOT ONE LIBRARY. 
          WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS WONDERFUL STUFF THAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE BRINGING, BUT WE HAVE RESIDENTS WHO DON'T HAVE ELEVATORS AT WORK, AND WE HAVE RESIDENTS WHO CAN'T BE COMMITTED TO, UM, SCANNING A QR CODE AND, AND FEELING INVESTED IN ADDISON BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR, THEIR RENT IS GOING TO BE, UH, NEXT YEAR. 
          AND SO IT'S VERY HARD FOR PEOPLE TO CARE ABOUT WHERE THEY LIVE WHEN THEY'RE IN SURVIVAL MODE. 
          AND THAT, TO ME DOES NOT MEAN A SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY. 
          I, I, I HOPE THAT WE ALL LOOK AT TAKING CARE OF OUR PEOPLE. 
          AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING TO LOOK PRETTY, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT ARE WE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR HEALTH AND SAFETY? WE HAVE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND VISITORS A DAY. 
          WE HAVE A LARGE AIRPORT, AND JUST IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST RIGHT OVER HERE, WE HAVE, BUT NO, ACTUALLY I WAS CORRECTED. 
          TODAY, WE HAVE FIVE LARGE BUSES, DARK BUSES AT BARREL, DOWN QUORUM, ONE MINUTE APART FROM 5:00 AM TO AFTER MIDNIGHT. 
          AND THEIR EXHAUST IS IN MY AIR. 
          BUT YET WE ARE TAKING OUT HUNDREDS OF TREES THAT PROCESS A LOT OF POLLUTION AND CLEAN OUR GROUNDWATER. 
          WE, WE DON'T GIVE DEVELOPERS INCENTIVES TO KEEP OUR RESIDENTS SO THAT WAY OUR RESIDENTS STAY INVOLVED AND FEEL CARED ABOUT. 
          WE HAVE 80% OF THE STUDENTS AT GEORGE BUSH, OUR ONLY SCHOOL IN ADDISON ON LUNCH ASSISTANCE. 
          WHY DON'T DEVELOPERS HELP THEM WITH THEIR FOOD? I JUST, I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH A LOT OF THINGS. 
          'CAUSE TO ME, A SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY IS ONE THAT CARES ABOUT ALL THE GENERATIONS, OUR ELDERS AND OUR YOUTH. 
          AND SO I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT WHENEVER YOU MAKE DECISIONS. 
          I KNOW THAT YOU DO. 
          I KNOW YOU CARE ABOUT THINGS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU. 
          THANK YOU, PATRICIA. 
          NEXT WE HAVE CURTIS GREEN. 
          HI, I'M CURTIS GREEN. 
          I LIVE AT 1 5 800, UH, SPECTRUM DRIVE HERE IN ESSENCE CIRCLE. 
          UM, A FEW DAYS AGO, THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL, UH, VOTED TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR A, UH, REDUCTION IN THE FUNDING FOR DART BY 25%. 
          UM, THIS IS JUST TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THAT. 
          THEY CAN'T DO THAT UNANIMOUSLY, UNANIMOUSLY. 
          UM, THIS HAS TO BE DONE BY ALL MEMBER CITIES, BUT I'D LIKE TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE IT COULD AFFECT, UH, ADDISON. 
          UM, AS A, UH, THIS IS DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR AS A TRANSIT RIDER AS WELL AS, UH, WE NEAR THE COMPLETION OF THE SILVER LINE HERE IN ADDISON. 
          UM, AND I LISTENED TO THEIR PRESENTATION AND I LISTENED TO THE REASONING, AND I, I THINK NOT ALL OF THE REASONING THEY HAVE THERE IS SOUND, SO I'D LIKE TO COME UP WITH SOME REBUTTALS TO THEM IN CASE THIS COMES BEFORE ADDISON IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, THEY SAY THAT TAX REVENUE HAS INCREASED, BUT DART RIDERSHIP REMAINS SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS. 
          UM, AS OF LAST MONTH, UM, THE DART RIDERSHIP IS AT 80% OF PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS, LOOKING AT MAY, 2019 TO MAY, 2024, UM, AND IS ROUGHLY INCREASED BY ABOUT 10% YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          UM, SO IT IS INCREASING, AND IF THAT RATE REMAINS CONSISTENT AS IT HAS OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, THEN IT'LL BE EXPECTED TO RECOVER OR EXCEED IN ABOUT, UH, TWO TO THREE YEARS. 
          UM, THEIR CONCERNS ARE SAFETY, CLEANLINESS, AND RELIABILITY. 
          I THINK EVERYONE CAN AGREE THAT THOSE ARE VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. 
          UM, BUT THESE ARE ALL VERY LABOR CONSTRAINED CONCERNS. 
          AND LABOR COSTS HAVE GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY RECENTLY, AS I'M SURE THE TOWN IS AWARE AND SO DRAMATICALLY DECREASING FUNDING WOULD GO AGAINST THEIR OWN STATED GOALS. 
          UM, AND THEY SAY THEY ARE, THEY THINK THEY ARE SUBSIDIZING OTHER CITIES. 
          UM, BUT PLANO WAS A BIG PROPONENT OF THE SILVER LINE, WHICH IS COMING TO THEM, AND THEY'RE GETTING TWO NEW STATIONS, UM, AS WELL AS THEY ALREADY HAVE TWO OTHER STATIONS ON THE, UH, RED AND ORANGE LINES AMONG OTHER TRANSIT CENTERS WITHIN THEIR BORN, UH, BOUNDARIES. 
          UM, THEY SAY THAT DART MEMBERSHIP SHOULD GROW ADDING NEW CITIES AS A FINANCIAL ADVICE. 
          UM, ADDING MEMBER CITIES WOULD BE GOOD FOR INCREASING SERVICE. 
          BUT AS FOR FINANCIAL ADVICE, UM, ADDING NEW MEMBERS TO PAY FOR EXISTING MEMBERS IS A PYRAMID SCHEME, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD WAY TO FUND YOUR SERVICE. 
          UM, ALSO THE OTHER MEMBER CITIES THEY COULD ADD ARE GENERALLY 
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LESS DENSE THAN THE CURRENT MEMBER CITIES, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE MORE FUNDING OR EITHER LESS SERVICE PER CAPITA. 
          UM, THEY SAY THEY WANT TO REDUCE THE CONTRIBUTION BY 25%, BUT WITHOUT CUTTING ANY SERVICES, AND I DON'T REALLY SEE HOW THAT'S FINANCIALLY POSSIBLE. 
          UM, THEY ALSO SAID ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID ONLINE THAT THEY COULD USE THE DART FUNDS INSTEAD TO BUY UBERS FOR EVERYONE. 
          UM, PLANO HAS ONE OF THE LARGEST GO LINK SERVICES, WHICH IS THEIR ON DEMAND TRANSIT SERVICE, UM, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO UBER AND THEY ALSO PARTNER WITH UBER THEMSELVES. 
          SO YOU CAN TECHNICALLY ALREADY DO THIS. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, CURTIS. 
          ALRIGHT, THOSE ARE THE TWO, UH, COUNCIL APPEARANCE CARDS THAT I HAVE. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION AND MOVE 
          [4. Consent Agenda. All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]
ON TO ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS A CONSENT AGENDA. 
          AND THE CONSENT INCLUDES ITEMS FOUR A THROUGH FOUR H AND, UH, BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD ON THAT, I'D LIKE TO GO AND PULL ITEM FOUR B. 
          AND, UH, ITEM FOUR B IS CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION OF APPOINTING VALENCIA GARCIA TO SERVE AS THE CITY SECRETARY. 
          AND, UH, THE REASON I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THIS ONE IS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S WAY MORE IMPORTANT THAN HAVING IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          UH, ROUGHLY SIX MONTHS AGO, VALENCIA TOOK ON THE JOB AS THE INTERIM CITY SECRETARY IN A JOB THAT SHE REALLY HADN'T DONE BEFORE, BUT, UM, SHE HAS DUMP JUMPED IN AND LEARNED IT BECAME A SPONGE. 
          AND SHE'S SO ORGANIZED AND SHE, SHE, SHE HAS DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB. 
          YOU'D THINK SHE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS. 
          AND SO, SO I'M JUST, I JUST CAN'T EXPRESS MY, MY, HOW MUCH I'M IMPRESSED BY HER AND, AND WHAT SHE'S BROUGHT TO THE JOB. 
          UH, AND SO, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND HONOR HER, HER HARD WORK AND HER DEDICATION TO THE TOWN AND TO THE COUNCIL, UH, AND, AND, AND MY APPRECIATION FOR HER. 
          SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, BRING THAT FORWARD AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IF ANYBODY ELSE ELSE HAS ANY COMMENTS. 
          I AGREE. 
          I THINK YOU'VE DONE A REMARKABLE JOB. 
          NOT THAT I HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH ANYONE ELSE, , BUT YOU'VE ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION. 
          YOU'VE KNOWN EVERYTHING, YOU'VE BEEN AMAZING. 
          SO I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, HOWARD. 
          AND, UH, WITH, AND I WOULD PUT THAT IN FORE OF MOTION IF IT WAS A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM NANCY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THE, THE REST OF THE ITEMS, ITEMS FOUR A THROUGH H, EXCLUDING B, AND I PROBABLY DID THOSE IN REVERSE ORDER. 
          MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A AND THEN C THROUGH H. 
          ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU, MARLON. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND FROM DARREN. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, CONSENT IS APPROVED AND CONGRATULATIONS VALENCIA. 
          THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. 
          ALL RIGHT, ITEM 
          [a.  Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request to amend Planned Development (PD) District, Ordinance O22-3, for a 10.88-acre property located at the southeast corner of Belt Line Road and Montfort Drive, addressed as 5290 and 5294 Belt Line Road, in order to modify the development plans to allow for the construction of a covered parking structure and dumpster enclosure. Case 1907-Z/Prestonwood Place Amendment]
FIVE, WE'RE GOING INTO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS TODAY. 
          ITEM FIVE A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO AMEND PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD, DISTRICT ORDINANCE OH TWO TWO DASH THREE FOR A 10.88 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF BELTLINE ROAD AND MONFORT DRIVE, ADDRESSED AS 52 90 AND 52 94 BELTLINE ROAD IN ORDER TO MODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A COVERED PARKING STRUCTURE AND A DUMPSTER. 
          ENCLOSURE CASE, 1907 DASH Z SLASH PRESTONWOOD. 
          PLACE AMENDMENT, LESLIE. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          LESLIE KNIGHT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES FOR THE TOWN. 
          UH, THIS REQUEST THIS EVENING IS A AMENDMENT TO EXISTING ZONING AT PRESTONWOOD PLACE, WHICH IS, UH, GENERALLY LOCATED ON TWO DIFFERENT PARCELS ADDRESSED AS 52 90 AND 52 94 BELTLINE ROAD. 
          UM, THIS PARTICULAR SITE WAS, UH, DEVELOPED IN THE LATE SEVENTIES AND EARLY EIGHTIES AS THE PRESTONWOOD PLACE SHOPPING CENTER. 
          UM, IN 2019. 
          THERE WAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, UM, REZONING AND REINVESTMENT IN THE PROPERTY, AND IT WAS RE-ENVISIONED INTO WHAT WE SEE TODAY WITH PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FACADE, PEDESTRIAN AND LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, IN 2022, WE ALSO SAW A PD AMENDMENT TO ALLOW MEDICAL AS A PERMITTED USE WITHIN THAT DISTRICT. 
          UM, I SHOULD ALSO MENTION IN 2019 THERE WAS A MIXED USE PARKING RATIO APPROVED WITHIN THAT PD, WHICH STILL EXISTS TODAY. 
          UM, THE REQUEST THIS EVENING IS A, AN ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT TO MODIFY THE SITE AND LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR SOME FAIRLY MINOR, UM, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CENTER, UH, THAT ARE REALLY, UH, USER BASED. 
          THIS COMES AFTER, UH, KITE REALTY GROUP, ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY LAST FALL AND HAVE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH THE TENANTS AND ARE TRYING 
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TO MAKE SOME, UM, IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED OF THEM. 
          SO, UM, AS WAS MENTIONED, UH, THERE IS A NEW PROPOSED DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE NEAR THE CENTER OF THE SITE. 
          IT'S IMMEDIATELY BEHIND, UH, THE EXISTING FLOWER CHILD RESTAURANT. 
          UM, YOU'LL SEE IT'S IN THE, ON THE SITE PLAN, IT'S ON THE NORTH, UM, YELLOW RECTANGLE. 
          UH, SO THIS DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, UH, WILL TAKE APPROXIMATELY 196 SQUARE FEET. 
          UH, THIS IS EXISTING TODAY, PARK SURFACE PARKING AND LANDSCAPE ISLAND AREA. 
          AND, UM, IT WILL BE A NEW DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE WITH SELF-CLOSING DOORS. 
          UM, THE ENCLOSURE WILL BE SEVEN FEET TALL, AND FROM AN AESTHETIC STANDPOINT, IT WILL MIRROR OR MATCH THE EXISTING ENCLOSURE THAT'S THERE TODAY. 
          UM, AS THE USES HAVE, UM, NEW USES HAVE BEEN COME INTO THE CENTER FOLLOWING THE REINVESTMENT, WE'VE SEEN A HIGHER DEMAND FOR, UM, SOLID WASTE ON THE SITE. 
          AND SO TO KEEP ANY KIND OF CODE COMPLIANCE DOWN WITH EXCESS LITTER ON THE SITE, UH, THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, UM, IMPROVEMENT AT THIS TIME. 
          AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENT, WHICH THEY'RE PROPOSING IS A COVERED PARKING STRUCTURE, WHICH WOULD BE LOCATED IN THE FAR, UH, SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE. 
          THIS IS GENERALLY, UM, TO THE EAST OF WHERE, UH, LIKE THE CATAPULT OFFICE IS, OR LA LA LAND COFFEE. 
          SO THIS WILL COVER 22 EXISTING SURFACE PARKING SPACES. 
          UM, IT WILL BE, UH, OF A CANTILEVER LIKE STRUCTURE. 
          THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ELIMINATED WITH THIS NEW STRUCTURE. 
          IT WILL JUST COVER EXISTING, UM, PARKING TODAY. 
          THE STRUCTURE ITSELF WILL BE, UH, APPROXIMATELY NINE AND A HALF FEET TALL AT CENTER. 
          SO JUST TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UM, IMPACTS OF THIS NEW DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, UH, YOU'LL SEE IN THE IMAGE, UM, THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN. 
          THIS IS THE EXISTING DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE THAT EXISTS TODAY. 
          THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL, UM, ENCLOSURE IMMEDIATELY TO THE RIGHT. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE THERE ARE SOME CONFLICTS WITH BOTH THE LANDSCAPE ISLAND AS WELL AS, UM, SOME EXISTING TREES. 
          UM, WITH THIS, THEY WILL ACTUALLY INCREASE THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO EXPAND THE EXISTING ISLAND TO, UM, ENCAPSULATE THE NEW ENCLOSURE. 
          AND THEY WILL ALSO TRANSPLANT THE TWO EXISTING TREES. 
          SO IT'LL LOOK ALMOST IDENTICAL. 
          IT'LL JUST HAVE ANOTHER DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE IN THE MIDDLE. 
          UM, WITH THIS, THEY WILL ALSO REMOVE FOUR EXISTING SURFACE PARKING SPACES, HOWEVER, THEY WILL STILL, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY EXCEED THE MINIMUM PARKING RATIO, UH, I BELIEVE BY 89 SPACES FOR THE ENTIRE CENTER. 
          AND THEN FOR THE COVERED, UM, PARKING IN THE FAR SOUTHEAST CORNER, UH, THERE WILL BE NO OPEN SPACE AFFECTED WITH THIS NEW STRUCTURE. 
          IT IS ALL CURRENTLY, UM, CONCRETE TODAY. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THERE'S NO REDUCTION OF PARKING SPACES PROPOSED. 
          IT'S SIMPLY, UM, COVERING EXISTING PARKING. 
          UH, THIS IS INTENDED TO BE AN AMENITY FOR SOME OF THE USERS, UM, AND PROMOTE THE, UM, EMPLOYEES OF THE CENTER TO PARK IN THAT LOCATION SO THEY'RE NOT PARKING IN FRONT AND MAYBE TAKING SPACES THAT WOULD BE MORE, UM, INTENDED FOR CUSTOMERS, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, UH, RESERVED PARKING PER SE. 
          SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE EXTERIOR APPEARANCE OF THIS STRUCTURE. 
          UH, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. 
          AS I MENTIONED, IT'LL BE A SIMILAR, UH, CANTILEVER A STRUCTURE. 
          UM, THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, AS YOU SAW BEFORE, IT WILL MIMIC WHAT WAS THERE TODAY, WHICH IS A MASONRY STRUCTURE WITH A STUCCO VENEER, GENERALLY WHITE EN COLOR. 
          AND THEN IT HAS BLACK, UM, SELF-CLOSING DOORS ON THE FRONT. 
          SO IT'S KEEPING ALL OF THE SOLID WASTE, UM, SCREENED PROPERLY. 
          THERE ARE NO MODIFICATIONS PROPOSED TO ANY OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS. 
          IT'S SIMPLY THESE TWO ADDITIONS TO THE SITE. 
          STAFF DID NOTIFY ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE PER STATE LAW THAT INCLUDED 16 RECIPIENTS. 
          UH, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY, UM, SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, UM, PROVIDED, UH, WITH THAT NOTICE. 
          WE DID RECEIVE, UH, ONE STATEMENT OF SUPPORT FROM AN ADDISON RESIDENT, UH, THAT WAS NOT WITHIN THIS NOTICE AREA IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. 
          UNANIMOUSLY, UH, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THIS ITEM. 
          UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THIS REQUEST. 
          WE FEEL IT'S AN ENHANCEMENT TO THE CENTER, UM, AND WILL LIKELY NOT HAVE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO THE OPERATIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LESLIE, ANY QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE MARLEY? UH, YEAH, LESLIE ON THE DUMPSTER, WERE THERE ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS OF OTHER, ANOTHER LOCATION? SO THE, IN TERMS OF THE IMPACTS, THEY DID WANNA KEEP THEM, UM, LOCATED TOGETHER. 
          IT WAS A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR THE SOLID WASTE HAULERS TO COLLECT. 
          UH, THE OTHER THING 
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WAS, IS BECAUSE OF THIS LOCATION, IT IS FAIRLY, SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THIS, THE MASONRY ENCLOSURE WHICH SCREENS IT, BUT IT, AT ITS CURRENT LOCATION, IT'S ALSO NOT ALONG OUR RIGHT OF WAYS. 
          AND SINCE THIS PROPERTY IS A BIT UNIQUE, THAT HAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FRONTAGE ON MONTFORD AND BELTLINE, UH, WE WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO KEEP IT MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED TO THE SITE. 
          SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, YOU KNOW, ON THE EDGE OF THE, THIS, UM, PROPERTY NEXT TO OTHER PEDESTRIAN, UM, AMENITIES LIKE SIDEWALKS OR TRAILS AND SO FORTH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND, AND I KNOW THAT ON THE, THIS IS A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY AND ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WE'VE GOT A LOT, UM, A LOT OF DUMPSTERS. 
          UM, SO DID WE CONSIDER PUTTING IT LIKE BEHIND SOME OF THOSE? OR, OR, OR IS THAT THIS USED FOR, FOR, UM, CERTAIN RETAILERS THAT ARE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE? YEAH, SO MIDDLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE PD, SO, UM, THE APPLICANT DESCRIBED IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, NOT NECESSARILY AN OVERFLOW, BUT IT'S GOING TO, UH, OVERCOMPENSATE, UM, SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL SOLID WASTE THAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING. 
          UM, SO IT PROBABLY IS IN A MORE CENTRALIZED LOCATION, THAT LOCATION AT THAT POINT. 
          UM, ADDITIONAL THING I WILL NOTE IS OCCASIONALLY WE DO HAVE, UH, WE, SO WE HAVE OUR, UH, NOISE HOURS, WHICH HAS LIMITATIONS ON WHEN SOLID WASTE CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE SITE. 
          HOWEVER, SOMETIMES WE DO HAVE SOLID WASTE HAULERS THAT DO NOT ABIDE BY THOSE HOURS. 
          UM, AND WHILE WE DO PURSUE THAT FROM A CODE COMPLIANCE STANDPOINT, UH, WE CAN'T PREVENT IT UNTIL AFTER IT HAPPENS NECESSARILY. 
          LIKE WE CAN EDUCATE, BUT WE CAN'T ENFORCE UNTIL AFTER IT HAPPENS. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS ONE, UM, ITEM OF FEEDBACK THAT I ACTUALLY RECEIVED ON THIS ITEM WAS THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE LOCATED BACK WHERE THE STRUCTURED PARKING WAS GOING TO BE LOCATED BECAUSE THEY WERE NERVOUS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO EXPERIENCE THE EXCESS NOISE ADJACENT TO THE OAKS NORTH NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UH, SO THEY ACTUALLY PREFERRED THAT IT BE LOCATED IN FRONT OF THE BUILDINGS AT ITS PROPOSED LOCATION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND RIGHT NOW THAT, I THINK THAT AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THERE'S ABOUT A 12 TO 15 DUMPSTERS THERE RIGHT NOW? NOT, NOT ALL THE WAY, UH, AS, AS FAR SOUTH, BUT JUST NORTH OF THAT, THAT AREA. 
          UM, IS THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT OR A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT? YES. 
          AND ARE THEY GONNA SPEAK? UM, I, THEY DID NOT PREPARE A FORMAL PRESENTATION, BUT THEY'RE PREPARED TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU. 
          THANKS NANCY. 
          UH, YES. 
          YOU MENTIONED SELF-CLOSING DUMPSTER DOORS. 
          YES. 
          IS THAT YES. 
          WAS THAT WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE? UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S SELF-CLOSING. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT'S ON SITE TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, OKAY, WELL I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD THEN. 
          AND IF YOU WOULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND HIT THAT LITTLE BUTTON, TURN THAT MIC ON. 
          UH, MY NAME'S RANDY LIPES. 
          I'M A FACILITIES MANAGER FOR KI REALTY STEPPING IN FOR OUR ENGINEER WHO COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. 
          UM, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE DUMPSTERS IN THE BACK, THOSE DUMPSTERS THAT ALONG THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING SERVICE, JUST THOSE TENANTS IN THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING. 
          AND WE ACTUALLY JUST GOT NOTICED TODAY FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL, UH, WHO JUST LEFT, UM, THAT WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY SQUISH THOSE CLOSER TO THE BUILDING 'CAUSE WE'RE ENCROACHING ON THE FIRE LANE. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO SOME MORE MANEUVERING WITH THE DUMPSTERS THAT ARE BACK THERE. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING SMALLER DUMPSTERS BACK THERE, WHICH IS GONNA FORCE A LOT MORE OF OUR TENANTS TO USE THIS DUMPSTER IN THE FRONT. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY WAS CURRENTLY WE HAVE A COMPACTOR AT THIS BOTTOM BUILDING BOTTOM SOUTH CORNER. 
          AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY MOVING IT TO THIS LOCATION AND TURNING IT TO A COMPACTOR INSTEAD OF OPEN TOP SO WE CAN SQUISH MORE OF THE SOLID WASTE, UH, AND PROVIDE MORE ROOM FOR THESE TENANTS THAT HAVE TO DRAG ALL THEIR WASTE ACROSS THE PARKING LOT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND ON THAT, ON, I GUESS THAT'D COME, COME TO US AT A LATER DATE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND, AND SO ON, ON THIS, THE DUMPSTER THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTLY, UM, THAT, THAT LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY BIG ENCLOSURE. 
          IS THAT THE MAX, UH, DUMPSTER YOU'VE GOT IN THAT ENCLOSURE? YEAH, I THINK RIGHT NOW THE MAX YOU CAN HAVE THAT WE HAVE IN THERE, UM, THAT'S BEING SERVICED AND 10 YARDS, THE LARGEST ONE THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND THAT'S A 10 YARD. 
          MM-HMM, . 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? VERY GOOD, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. 
          IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS 
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FOR THE RECORD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          TRISHA STEWART, 1 5 7 5 5 SIEBOLD. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN OUTSTANDING. 
          THEY HAVE NOT SCRAPED LIKE A LOT OF DEVELOPER, NOT, MAYBE NOT THE DEVELOPER, BUT THIS, THIS LOCATION HAS BEEN OUTSTANDING IN HOW THEY'VE DEVELOPED EVERYTHING. 
          AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WHATEVER THEY DO AT THE DUMPSTER WILL BE OUTSTANDING AS WELL. 
          IT'S SO NICE TO SEE THAT THEY WORKED WITH BUILDINGS THAT WERE ALREADY THERE AND THAT THEY ARE CONSIDERATE OF THE TREES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE AND THEY'RE RELOCATING THE TREES, NOT JUST PLANTING NEW ONES. 
          AND SO, UM, I AM IN FAVOR OF WHATEVER PRESTONWOOD PLACE WANTS TO DO BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE AN INCREDIBLE ASSET TO MY COMMUNITY. 
          SO I THANK THEM FOR BEING HERE. 
          THANK YOU TRICIA. 
          ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          SECOND, IS THAT CHRIS? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU CHRIS. 
          AND A SECOND FROM MARLON. 
          ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. 
          ITEM FIVE A IS APPROVED. 
          MOVING ON 
          [b.  Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request for a Special Use Permit (SUP) for property located at 5000 Belt Line Road, Suite 230, that is currently zoned Planned Development (PD), through Ordinance No. 004-001, to allow a restaurant. Case 1914-SUP/5000 Belt Line Road, Suite 230 Road (Halal Guys).]
TO ITEM FIVE B. 
          HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT SUP FOR PROPERTY. 
          LOCATED AT 5,000 BELTLINE ROAD, SUITE TWO 30 THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD THROUGH ORDINANCE NUMBER 0 0 4 DASH ZERO ONE TO ALLOW A RESTAURANT CASE, 1914 DASH U SLASH 5,000 BELTLINE ROAD SUITE TWO 30. 
          HELLO GUYS. 
          LESLIE LESLIE KNIGHT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. 
          UH, THIS REQUEST IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, A REQUEST FOR A NEW RESTAURANT AT ADDISON WALK. 
          UH, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BELTLINE AND THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY. 
          UM, THIS PARTICULAR SHOPPING CENTER WAS CONSTRUCTED IN THE 1980S AND IT WENT THROUGH A REZONING IN 2004 TO ITS CURRENT PLAN DEVELOPMENT. 
          THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UM, IDENTIFIED, UH, PERMITTED USES AS WELL AS SET, UM, MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR PARKING, WHICH ESTABLISHED, UM, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN OUR BASE CODE, UM, FOR BOTH RESTAURANT AS WELL AS RESTAURANT WITH, UH, DESIGNATED VALET SERVICES AS WELL. 
          AND THEN THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO OCCUPY SUITE TWO 30, UH, FOR HALAL GUYS. 
          SO HALAL GUYS IS A QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANT THAT FIRST BEGAN IN 1990 AND THE CONCEPT HAS EXPANDED TO OVER 400 LOCATIONS ACROSS THE US EXCUSE ME, ACROSS THE WORLD. 
          UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO UTILIZE AN EXISTING SUITE SPACE, AS I MENTIONED, SUITE TWO 30, IT'S UM, JUST UNDER 1500 SQUARE FEET. 
          THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO, UM, USE A SMALL AREA IMMEDIATELY OUTSIDE OF THE SUITE AS WELL FOR SOME OUTDOOR SEATING, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE TWO TABLES. 
          UM, SO THEY WOULD HAVE SEATING INDOORS FOR 28 INDIVIDUALS AS WELL AS EIGHT OUTDOORS. 
          UM, THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO SELL ALCOHOL ON SITE, SO IT'S NOT INCLUDED WITH THIS REQUEST. 
          UM, THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE, UH, 10:30 AM TO MIDNIGHT SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO STAY OPEN AN ADDITIONAL HOUR ON, UH, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT. 
          UM, SO FOR THE PATIO AREA, UM, THEY'RE USING APPROXIMATELY 150 SQUARE FEET IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE FRONT ENTRY OF THE SUITE, UM, USING THE TWO FOUR PERSON TABLES. 
          UH, THOSE TABLES THEMSELVES, UM, ARE DRAWN TO SCALE. 
          SO THEY WERE APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET, UM, WIDE BY THREE AND A HALF FEET LONG. 
          UM, THE EXISTING SPACE OUT THERE DOES WITH THESE TABLES DOES STILL ACCOMMODATE THE MINIMUM OF A THREE FOOT WALKWAY OR 36 INCHES, UH, ADJACENT TO THE TABLES BETWEEN THE EXISTING COLUMNS. 
          UM, SO THERE'S ACTUALLY JUST OVER EIGHT FEET, LIKE EIGHT FEET AND TWO INCHES GIVE OR TAKE, UM, BETWEEN COLUMN TO COLUMN 'EM ON THE SIDEWALK. 
          AND SO AS THOSE TABLES ARE SHOWN, UM, THERE WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY ALMOST FOUR FEET OF WALKWAYS STILL PROVIDED. 
          SO, UM, THE ONE THING THAT WE WILL ASK OF THE OPERATOR, WHICH WE ASK OF ANY OPERATOR OPERATING A PATIO SPACE ADJACENT TO A WALKWAY IS TO BE MINDFUL THAT IF CUSTOMERS ARE COMING IN AND MOVING THESE MOVABLE FURNITURE, WHICH IS PRETTY COMMON, UM, THAT THEY BE MINDFUL NOT TO BLOCK THE WA WALKWAY OR IMPEDE PEDESTRIANS TRYING TO GET BOTH IN AND OUT OF THIS, UM, RESTAURANT OR TO NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES AS WELL. 
          THE ONE THING I WILL NOTE IS THERE IS AN EXISTING, UM, TRASH RECEPTACLE NEAR 
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THE ENTRANCE OF THIS, UM, SUITE, AND IT WILL NEED TO BE RELOCATED. 
          UH, IT'S NOT A PERMANENT FIXED TRASH CAN, SO IT WILL BE PRETTY SIMPLE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SLIDE IT, UH, POTENTIALLY TO THE NEXT COLUMN WHERE THE ADJACENT SUITES DO NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF PATIO SEATING SO THEY WOULDN'T NEED THE ADDITIONAL SPACE. 
          AND I HAVE A COUPLE, UH, SO THE CENTER PHOTO, UM, HERE ON THE SCREEN SHOWS THAT EXISTING DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, UH, WHICH COULD JUST BE RELOCATED, UM, ELSEWHERE, UM, IN FRONT OF THE SUITE. 
          SO A COUPLE OF OTHER, UM, ITEMS RELATED TO THE SITE. 
          THERE ARE NO MODIFICATIONS PROPOSED TO THE SITE WITH THIS APPLICATION AND THE SITE DOES EXCEED THE PARKING REQUIREMENT WITH THOSE STANDARDS THAT WERE PROVIDED WITHIN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ADOPTED IN 2004. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE NO MODIFICATIONS TO THE LANDSCAPING OR OPEN SPACE AND THERE ARE NO, UM, REALLY SIGNIFICANT EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE SUITE ITSELF. 
          THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REPLACE THE EXISTING DOOR. 
          UM, SO YOU'LL SEE FROM THE PHOTO IT'S GREEN FROM THE PREVIOUS TENANT AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REPLACE THAT WITH, UM, A, A MORE TRADITIONAL, UM, RESTAURANT ENTRY DOOR STAFF DID NOTIFY ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE, UH, AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES TO THAT NOTICE. 
          AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THIS REQUEST, UM, SEVEN TO ZERO AND WHAT THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AS WELL. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU LESLIE. 
          QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE. 
          MAYOR, I'VE GOT A, A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          MM-HMM, , UM, LESLIE, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OUTDOOR SEATING? THERE YOU GO. 
          PERFECT. 
          UM, SO ON THE, ON THOSE TABLES, HOW, HOW WIDE ARE YOU SAYING THEY ARE? SO THE TABLE ITSELF IS TWO FOOT BY THREE AND A HALF FOOT, AND THEN THERE'S WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE CHAIRS ADJACENT PATIO CHAIRS ADJACENT TO THEM AS WELL. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND IT LOOKS LIKE I'M, I'M SEEING FOUR CHAIRS AT A TABLE, CORRECT? YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IF THE TABLE'S THREE AND A HALF FEET WIDTH MM-HMM, , HOW, HOW WIDE DO YOU THINK THOSE CHAIRS ARE? THEY'RE LESS THAN, SO EACH CHAIR, I THINK YOU COULD, UM, EASILY SAY A FOOT AND A HALF TO TWO FOOT ON EITHER SIDE. 
          IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA, UM, FLUCTUATE RIGHT? WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU, 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE MOVABLE FIXTURES AS WELL AS SEATED, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA BE CLOSER TO THE TABLE AND SO FORTH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU'RE PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY BALLPARK LOOKING AROUND SIX FEET AT LEAST FOR EACH TABLE ON EACH SIDE. 
          THE WIDTH IN THAT AREA, UM, AS THEY'RE SHOWN ON THIS PLAN IS CLOSE TO 18 FEET. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE OKAY. 
          SO WHERE THEY ARE IS IN BETWEEN THOSE COLUMNS, SOME OF THE SEATS CORRECT? THE THE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY OUTSIDE OF THE COLUMNS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF, CAN YOU MOVE THE MOUSE TO SHOW WHERE THE COLUMN IS, LIKE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT, RIGHT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S A COLUMN. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE GRAY OUTLINE, UM, IS THE COLUMN THERE, RIGHT? SO THE, THE TABLES AND THE FURNITURE FIXTURES ARE ACTUALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WHERE THOSE COLUMNS ARE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M, WHAT I'M SEEING IS I'M SEEING FOUR COLUMNS AND THEN, UH, ONE COLUMN THAT YOU JUST POINTED TO IS RIGHT NEXT TO A CHAIR. 
          MM-HMM, . 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER COLUMN THAT'S EIGHT FEET AWAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND SO, UM, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SEEING WHEN I GO TO THAT SITE IS, IS VERY TIGHT. 
          I MEAN, IT'S A EIGHT BASICALLY IF YOU, LIKE YOU SAID THERE'S A TRASH CAN THAT'S, THAT'S DRILLED DOWN INTO THE GROUND. 
          IT'S PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY HEAVY. 
          SO THAT, THAT TRASH CANS IS JUST OVER TWO FEET, UH, HIGH AND THEY PUT IT BEHIND THE POLE, UH, AS YOU CAN TELL, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PD TO, TO MASK IT FROM THE FRONT VIEW. 
          AND IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL THE WAY THAT THEY DID THAT. 
          SO I'M, MY HOPE IS IF YOU, IF IF I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO DO THAT, BUT IF YOU DO DO THAT, I HOPE THAT YOU'LL BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S THERE, UM, AT THE SITE HIDING IT BEHIND THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT STONE COLUMN. 
          BUT, BUT WHAT I'M SEEING IS, IS VERY TIGHT QUARTERS, EIGHT, EIGHT FEET SIDEWALK. 
          AND I THINK IF YOU TRY TO PUT THE, THE EXTERIOR SEATING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US IN THE DIAGRAM. 
          I I THINK IT'S, IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA LEAVE, UM, FOR VERY, VERY LITTLE WALKWAY THROUGH THERE WITH THOSE COLUMNS KIND OF PINCHING, PINCHING PEDESTRIANS IN THERE. 
          SO I'M, I AM EXTREMELY HAPPY THAT, THAT, UH, THE HALAL GUYS ARE GONNA COME AND WANT TO SET UP SHOP AND OPEN UP ANOTHER GREAT RESTAURANT AND ADDISON. 
          BUT, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS A REALLY TIGHT SPACE FOR THE OUTDOOR SEATING AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE. 
          EVERYTHING ELSE 
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IN MY MIND LOOKS GREAT. 
          I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THIS, UH, REALISTICALLY WORKS. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          AND, UH, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, MARLON. 
          AND, UM, SO, SO I'M A BIG FAN OF THE OUTDOORS SEATING, THE PATIO, THE SIDEWALK DINING. 
          I THINK THAT THAT ADDS TO THE, TO THAT VIBE OF THE, OF THAT, UH, THAT CENTER. 
          UM, AND I, AND I'M NOT TOO, I DON'T, WITH WHAT I SEE RIGHT THERE, I DON'T THINK I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, THAT SPACING THERE. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A REALLY HIGH PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY. 
          I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE ARE WALKING DOWN THROUGH THERE, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE TONS OF PEOPLE GOING ALL THE TIME. 
          MY QUESTION, LESLIE, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UH, THERE WAS A LOCATION HERE IN THE ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT THAT THEY WERE DOING QUITE A BIT OF, UH, SIDEWALK DINING. 
          AND AS WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THE, THE REQUIREMENT WAS TO HAVE THE SPACING WIDE ENOUGH TO GO DOWN THROUGH THERE TO, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE THE A DA REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT SPACING IS AS REQUIRED. 
          I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD. 
          SO, UH, CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT THAT? YEAH, SO THAT MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS 36 INCHES OR THREE FEET. 
          UH, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GETTING THE, THE THREE FOOT WALKWAY THAT NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED AT ALL TIMES. 
          UM, THAT, THAT'S WHERE THAT COMES FROM. 
          SO AS LONG AS THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED, THAT IS FROM, FROM STAFF'S STANDPOINT, THAT'S THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. 
          OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD ALWAYS ENCOURAGE BIG, BETTER, BIGGER SIDEWALKS, MORE PEDESTRIAN, UM, AMENITIES AND CONNECTIVITY. 
          UM, BUT FROM STAFF STANDPOINT, LOOKING AT THIS PROPOSAL, UH, WE DID WANNA ENCOURAGE THE OUTDOOR DINING KIND OF, UM, BREAK SPILLING THE BUSINESS OUT INTO THE PEDESTRIAN REALM. 
          UH, WHILE THIS IS STILL PRIVATE PROPERTY, THE SIDEWALK HERE, UM, AND IT'S MAIN PRIVATELY MAINTAINED, WE DID WANNA ENCOURAGE THE, THE ACTIVITY OF THIS SPACE, WHICH IS WHY, UH, WE FELT LIKE E EVEN, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE TIGHT IN SOME AREAS, WHEN THOSE ARE BEING USED, UH, WE SHOULD STILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE THREE FOOT WALKWAY. 
          'CAUSE 'CAUSE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, YOU'VE GOT THREE FOOT PLUS MAYBE ANOTHER FOOT, FOOT AND A HALF OR SO BEFORE HE GETS TO THAT TABLE. 
          AND SO EVEN IF SOMEBODY'S KIND OF SPRAWLED OUT A LITTLE BIT, IT SHOULD STILL GIVE US THAT THREE FOOT CLEARANCE THERE. 
          SO YEAH, SO WITH THAT, THAT GIVES ME COMFORT THAT IN THE, UH, IN THE SPACING OF THAT. 
          SO, SO I FEEL OKAY WITH THAT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE, DAN? ONE, JUST ONE QUICK ONE. 
          SO YOU MENTIONED THE TRASH CAN, MARLA MENTIONED IT, IT'S GONNA GET MOVED TO AN ADJACENT COLUMN NEIGHBORING YEP. 
          BUSINESS. 
          IS THAT SIGNED OFF ON BY THAT BUSINESS? IS IT UNKNOWN? DO WE HAVE THE ANSWER FROM THAT TENANT? SO IT WOULD BE THAT TRASH CAN IS, UH, I'M GONNA SAY IS GOVERNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, NOT NECESSARILY THE TENANT. 
          UM, SO, UM, I, IF IT WOULD BE, UM, THE OPINION OF COUNSEL, I'D BE HAPPY TO, UM, I JUST THINK THAT, I THINK ADD THAT AS A CONDITION ON THE, YEAH, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAKE THAT A CONDITION THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU PUT IT IN FRONT OF MY BUILDING AND I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE TRASH THAT BUILDS UP IN IT AND NOBODY'S EMPTYING THE TRASH, THAT'S THE CONCERN. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I JUST FIGURE SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO HOLD MM-HMM. 
           THE TRASH CAN ACCOUNTABLE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE, THE ONE THING I WILL SAY, LIKE IT WOULD, CAN DEFINITELY BE PLACED AS A CONDITION ON THIS ITEM, BUT TO, TO, UM, COUNCILMAN WILSON'S POINT, IT WOULD IMPEDE THE, THAT, UM, THREE FOOT PATHWAY. 
          SO FROM A UM, ACCESS STANDPOINT, WE WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO MOVE IT ANYWAYS. 
          ANY OTHER, IS THE TRASH CAN REQUIRED OR CAN THEY JUST REMOVE IT? THE TRASH CAN IS NOT REQUIRED. 
          ADDITIONAL AMENITY THAT THE, THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT GROUP PROVIDES. 
          SO IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE REMOVED IF THAT'S SO DESIRED. 
          I WILL SAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING TO SEE IN THIS PHOTO, BUT IN THE FAR RIGHT PHOTO THERE'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER COLUMN THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW, 15 FEET ON THE, ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT, THAT TRASH CAN COULD BE JUST RELOCATED TO. 
          SO MY OTHER QUESTION WAS WHO WAS THE TENANT THERE BEFORE AND WHAT WAS THEIR OCCUPANCY? THE TENANT THAT WAS THERE BEFORE WAS GRAB A GREEN. 
          UM, IT HAS NOT BEEN, I BELIEVE THAT THEY CLOSED DOWN FOLLOWING THE COVID PANDEMIC. 
          AND THIS SUITE HAS BEEN VACANT, UH, FOR AT LEAST I I WANNA SAY AROUND TWO YEARS. 
          SO YOU DON'T KNOW I, I'M, I EAT IN THAT, THAT, UH, WHATEVER THAT SHOPPING CENTER QUITE A BIT. 
          YEAH. 
          ADDISON MILWAUKEE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S PARKING'S A PROBLEM SOMETIMES. 
          MM-HMM, , SO THIS IS 36, UM, OCCUPANTS, IF IT WAS FULL PLUS I GUESS WHOEVER'S WAITING, I MEAN, I WANT 'EM, I WANT 'EM TO GET THEIR PERMIT, BUT I JUST WANNA KNOW IF IT'S GONNA CAUSE A PROBLEM WITH THE PARKING. 
          AND YOU SAID THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF PARKING, BUT I DON'T KNOW. 
          I, I FIND IT HARD TO FIND A PLACE THERE SOMETIMES. 
          YEAH, 
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IT STILL MEETS THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. 
          HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF SUCCESSFUL RESTAURANTS AND OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER. 
          UM, SO AT TIMES IT'S A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE ON FROM THE BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE. 
          UM, BUT I DO AGREE AT PEAK TIMES THERE IT CAN BE CHALLENGING TO FIND PARKING BECAUSE THERE ARE SO SUCCESSFUL. 
          UM, SO TO ANSWER YOUR INITIAL QUESTION, GRAB A GREEN WAS LOCATED THERE BEFORE, UM, THEY WERE LIKE, UM, I NEVER READ A SMOOTHIE SHOP KIND OF A, I GUESS I WOULD COMPARE THEM TO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO LIKE A SALAD AND GO, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH, IF THAT HELPS YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DID I FEEL THAT DONE HERE A WHILE AGO? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          MARLEY, MARY? YEAH. 
          I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          UM, AS, AS THIS ITEM IS, HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER RIGHT NOW, DOES THIS THREE FEET, UM, PATHWAY ON THE SIDEWALK, IS THAT PART OF THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL OR WOULD THAT NEED TO BE ADDED? SO, UM, AS I MENTIONED, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE ADDED 'CAUSE WE, THAT IS A, THAT IS A STANDARD REQUIREMENT ANYWAYS, OUTSIDE OF THAT, THAT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT FOR OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS, NOT JUST THIS ONE. 
          UM, THAT LIVES IN, UM, OUR INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IS THAT TO THE MAYOR'S QUESTION, IS THAT AN A DA UM, LAW? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO IF THEY WERE VIOLATING THAT, THAT DISTANCE, IT WOULD BE A CODE VIOLATION. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE WOULD ASK THEM TO, TO MOVE THE FURNITURE OR IT'S NOT UNCOMMON. 
          UM, WE HAVE ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF ESTABLISHMENTS THAT HAVE A SIMILAR CONDITION AND THERE, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN MAYBE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A PARTY OF SIX AND YOU GET GRAB CHAIRS FROM OTHER TABLE AND YOU KIND OF CROWD AROUND AND IT IMPEDES THE SIDEWALK. 
          IT HAPPENS. 
          WE TRY TO EDUCATE AND ENCOURAGE THE STAFF AT THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS TO TRY TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF THE WALKWAY AND, AND, AND MOVE FURNITURE BACK AND DISCOURAGE THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S OUR APPROACH TO THOSE ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IF IT CONTINUES AND BECOMES A NUISANCE, WE'LL ESCALATE IT. 
          IT'D BE GOVERNED BY ROUTINE ENFORCEMENT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO I'M IN FAVOR OF, OF THE OUTDOOR SEATING THE WAY IT IS AND LET THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT DEAL WITH THE TRASH. 
          CAN I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? GREAT, THANK YOU DARREN. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT. 
          AND THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. 
          PLEASE COME FORWARD, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES. 
          TRICIA. 
          YES. 
          I REALLY DIDN'T WANNA COME UP HERE AGAIN. 
          YOU KNOW, I ALREADY LOVED YOU AT PLANNING AND ZONING. 
          I LOVE HALAL BROTHERS. 
          SO I HOPE THIS DOESN'T AFFECT MY 20% DISCOUNT OR THAT GREEN DOOR 'CAUSE I WOULD REALLY LIKE IT. 
          BUT YOU BROUGHT UP SOMETHING I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          SORRY, I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO POINT DIRECTLY AT YOU, BUT, UH, THE, THERE IS A, A WALKWAY ISSUE AND YOU MAY ASTORIA WHAT IS WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          AND ASTORIA HAS TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THEIR TABLES BECAUSE OF THAT THING. 
          SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT EITHER THEY BOLT THE TABLES SOMEHOW TO SOMETHING OR SO THAT WAY PEOPLE CAN'T MOVE IT BECAUSE ASTORIA HAS TO CONSTANTLY MONITOR. 
          THEY PUT TAPE DOWN SAYING YOU CAN'T MOVE IT PAST HERE, YOU CAN'T DO PAST HERE. 
          AND SO AS LONG AS THEY WOULD FOLLOW THOSE SAME KIND OF GUIDELINES THAT ASTORIA DOES WITH MAKING SURE THAT THEY STAY IN A CERTAIN RANGE. 
          I MEAN, ASTORIA'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH DOING IT, BUT THEY DO HAVE TO STAY ON TOP OF IT. 
          SO IF THEY DON'T HAVE STAFF WHO CAN STAY ON TOP OF IT, THEN THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO HELP THEM DO THAT. 
          PLEASE KEEP THE TRASH CAN. 
          THAT WHOLE AREA HAS A PROBLEM WITH TRASH AND WE, WE REALLY NEED THAT TRASH CAN KEPT SOMEWHERE. 
          SO I HOPE THAT THE TRASH CAN STAYS IT, IT CAN MOVE, BUT THAT WHOLE AREA AND PARKING, YOU DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S ON THE OTHER END, NEXT TO, UM, THE MATTRESS AREA. 
          IT'S NOT BY KENNY'S AND ALL THAT. 
          YEAH, YOU CAN'T GET A PLACE TO PARK DOWN THERE. 
          I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. 
          BUT IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE IT SHOULDN'T AFFECT PARKING. 
          SO THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OH, AND I HAVE TIME LEFT. 
          GO, GO FIGURE. 
          BUT I LOVE HALLAL BROTHERS. 
          I, I HOPE THAT THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, STAY IN ADDISON A LONG TIME 'CAUSE THEY HAVE AMAZING FOOD. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU TRICIA. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNSEL ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          MOVE TO APPROVE. 
          SECOND. 
          THANK YOU NANCY. 
          AND WAS THAT DARREN? THAT WAS NOT, I THINK IT WAS DAN, THE OTHER DARREN DOWN THERE TRICKING ME. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          CORRECT. 
          DAN GAVE A SECOND ON THAT. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          ANY DISCUSSION, MAYOR? I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT, UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE RESTAURANT, BUT I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT THIS VOTE WITH THE OUTDOOR SEATING ISSUES I'VE BROUGHT UP. 
          UH, I THINK THAT'S GONNA OPEN UP A LOT OF PROBLEMS, NOT JUST FOR THIS LOCATION, BUT OTHERS. 
          UM, JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          ITEM FIVE B IS APPROVED. 
          [c.  Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request for a Special Use Permit (SUP) for property located at 3767 Belt Line Road, that is currently zoned Planned Development (PD), through Ordinance Nos. 092-037 and 097-018, to allow a restaurant. Case 1917-SUP/3767 Belt Line Road (Krak Boba).]
ITEM FIVE C 
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HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 
          SUP FOR PROPERTY. 
          LOCATED AT 37 67 BELTLINE ROAD THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD THROUGH ORDINANCE NUMBERS OH NINE TWO DASH 0 3 7 AND OH 9 7 0 1 8 TO ALLOW RESTAURANT CASE 1917 DASH SU SLASH 37 67 BELINE ROAD CRACK, BOBA LESLIE LESLIE, I, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. 
          UH, THIS REQUEST IS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AT ADDISON PLAZA. 
          THIS IS A EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER LOCATED AT 37 67 BELTLINE ROAD. 
          UM, THIS PARTICULAR CENTER WAS, UH, REZONED FROM INDUSTRIAL TO ITS EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN 1992. 
          UM, IT WAS THEN, UH, AMENDED THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT WAS AMENDED TO ADOPT, UH, DEVELOPMENT PLANS IN 1998 FOR THE EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER THAT YOU SEE TODAY. 
          IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS AND HAS HAD A VARIETY OF SPECIAL USE PERMITS SINCE THAT TIME TO APPROVE SEVERAL OF THE EXISTING RESTAURANTS IN THE CENTER. 
          UM, TONIGHT THEY, UH, THE BUSINESS, UM, OPERATOR CRACK BOBA IS REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A RESTAURANT, UH, LOCATED WITHIN THE SHOPPING CENTER. 
          SO CRACK BOBA IS A, UH, BEVERAGE PROVIDER. 
          UH, THEY OFFER A VARIETY OF BOBA DRINKS, SMOOTHIES, AND TEAS. 
          UH, THEY DO NOT OFFER ANY KIND OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON SITE. 
          THEY ALSO DO NOT OFFER ANY FOOD. 
          UM, SO ONE UNIQUE THING ABOUT THIS REQUEST IS THAT OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, UM, CURRENTLY ALLOWS SOME SPECIALTY USES THAT BY, RIGHT? SO THINGS LIKE AN ICE CREAM PARLOR OR, UM, A COFFEE SHOP. 
          SOMETHING SIMILAR AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT PROVIDE ANY KIND OF ONSITE CONSUMPTION. 
          UM, THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FOR CRACK BOBA TO PROVIDE SEATING FOR 28 INDIVIDUALS INSIDE THE RESTAURANT. 
          SO YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT CORRECT. 
          BOBA HAD, I BELIEVE HAD THEIR GRAND OPENING ON MAY 28TH AND THEY'VE OPERATED AND THEY'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE IN ADDISON. 
          HOWEVER, THEY REALLY WANT TO OFFER INDOOR SEATING SO THEY, THEIR PATRONS CAN, UM, CONSUME THEIR VARIOUS TEAS AND DRINKS ON SITE. 
          UH, ONCE AGAIN, THEY DON'T PROVIDE ANY KIND OF FOOD OFFERINGS. 
          JUST, UM, VARIETY OF TEAS AND THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 11:00 AM TO 9:00 PM SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, AND THEN 11:00 AM TO 10:00 PM FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. 
          UH, THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY OUTDOOR SEATING WITH THIS REQUEST. 
          IT WOULD ALL BE INTERIOR TO THE SPACE. 
          SO FOR THE PARKING ON SITE, UH, THERE IS A VARIETY OF RESTAURANT USES, UH, SOME RETAIL USES AS WELL. 
          UM, WITH THIS REQUEST, THE SITE DOES ACTUALLY HAVE A ONE SPACE DEFICIT WHEN YOU CONSIDER THIS REQUEST AS A RESTAURANT, WHICH IS A PARKING RATIO OF ONE SPACED FOR EVERY 100 SQUARE FEET. 
          UM, STAFF IS NOT CONCERNED WITH THIS ONE SPACE DEFICIT AND FEELS LIKE IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO TREAT CRACK BOBA AS A RETAIL, UM, RATIO, WHICH IS ONE TO 200, GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS. 
          AND THEY'RE NOT OFFERING FOOD AND IT WOULD POTENTIALLY OPERATE MORE LIKE A, A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT WITHOUT PEOPLE HAVING SUCH A LONG DURATION OF STAYS. 
          SO STAFF FEELS COMFORTABLE, UM, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST WITH THE ONE SPACE DEFICIT. 
          OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME SUITES ON THIS SITE THAT, UM, IF THEY WERE REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL SUP STAFF WOULD REALLY HAVE TO CONSIDER WHAT THAT OPERATION DOES TO THE EXISTING PARKING ON SITE. 
          THERE ARE NO, UH, MODIFICATIONS TO THE EXISTING SITE WITH THIS REQUEST, INCLUDING OPEN SPACE LANDSCAPING OR THE EXTERIOR APPEARANCE OF THE SUITE. 
          STAFF NOTIFIED ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE AND, UH, DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES TO THAT NOTICE. 
          AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST. 
          AND STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST. 
          I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AND THE, UM, OPERATOR IS ALSO PRESENT. 
          THANK YOU, LESLIE. 
          QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE? ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. 
          THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'D OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. 
          PLEASE COME FORWARD. 
          AT THIS TIME, WE'RE SEEING NONE. 
          I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          SECOND, IS THAT CHRIS? MARLON AND CHRIS. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE IT'S ALL COMING FROM THE SPEAKER HERE. 
          JUST MADE THE MOTION. 
          I SECOND IT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, LESLIE. 
          ITEM FIVE C IS APPROVED. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NOW THAT WAS THE LAST OF OUR OTHER ITEMS. WE DON'T 
          [02:45:01]
HAVE ANY ITEMS FOR CONS, INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. 
          SO 
          [c.  Present and discuss the Fiscal Year 2025 Five-Year Capital Improvement Program and Issuance of Proposed 2024 Certificates of Obligation.]
AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO OUR OTHER WORK SESSION ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM FOUR C AND ITEM FOUR C FROM THE WORK SESSION IS PRESENTED, DISCUSS THE FISCAL YEAR 20 25, 5 YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND ISSUANCE OF PROPOSED 2024 CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. 
          STEVEN. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. 
          AND THIS EVENING, UH, WE'RE CONTINUING OUR, UH, BUDGET DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND ALSO INCORPORATING OUR PROPOSED 2024, UH, BOND ISSUANCE INTO THAT DISCUSSION. 
          UM, SO A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF, UH, WHAT WE CONSIDER, UH, OUR PROJECT CLASSIFICATIONS. 
          UH, SO WE REALLY HAVE THREE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS OF PROJECTS. 
          UH, ONE WOULD BE VOTER AUTHORIZED PROJECTS, UH, WHICH WE WOULD ISSUE GENERAL OBLIGATIONS FOR, UH, GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS FOR, UH, WE WOULD HAVE, UH, COMMITTED PROJECTS AND THOSE MAY BE AGREEMENTS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS AUTHORIZED OR ADOPTED. 
          UH, IT MAY BE DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          UH, AND GENERALLY THOSE WOULD BE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS THAT WE WOULD SELL, UH, OR IF WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF CASH RESERVES THAT WE COULD USE FOR THOSE PROJECTS, THOSE MAY BE USED. 
          UH, AND THEN WE WOULD'VE FUTURE UNFUNDED PROJECTS. 
          THESE MAY BE POTENTIAL PROJECTS, UH, THAT HAVE NOT BEEN AUTHORIZED, UH, BY VOTERS YET OR HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          UH, SO OVER THE LAST, UM, I GUESS 12 YEARS, THE TOWN HAS HAD, UH, TWO, UM, UH, VOTER AUTHORIZED, UH, BOND PROGRAMS. ONE WAS IN 2012, UH, FOR $55 MILLION. 
          UH, WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS. 
          SO I'M, I'M STILL UPDATING ON, ON THE 2012 PROGRAM BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE STILL GOING ON THIS PROGRAM. 
          UH, THE BIGGEST ONE, UH, IS MIDWAY ROAD. 
          UH, THAT WAS PROPOSITION ONE OF THAT, THAT PROGRAM. 
          SO, UH, THAT ONE SHOULD BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, UH, WHICH WOULD, WOULD COMPLETE ALL OF THE PROJECTS THERE THAT WERE IN THAT FIRST PROPOSITION. 
          UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS, ADDISON ROAD REHAB, THE, UH, ELECTRONIC SIGNAGE ON BELTLINE. 
          UM, ONE PROJECT THAT WAS COMPLETED IN ANOTHER METHOD WAS THE VITRUVIAN PARK STREETS FOR PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO. 
          UH, THOSE WERE, UH, COMPLETED USING CERTIFICATES. 
          SO WE DIDN'T SELL THAT $10 MILLION. 
          SO WE'VE SOLD 19.5 OF THAT $29.5 MILLION AUTHORIZATION. 
          AND THEN MIDWAY ROAD ALSO HAD SOME OTHER FUNDING FROM DALLAS COUNTY AND SOME CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION THAT WERE ISSUED FOR THAT PROJECT. 
          AND THEN WE HAD PROPOSITION TWO, BELTLINE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES. 
          THAT PROJECT WAS COMPLETED SOME TIME AGO, UH, WITH A COMBINATION OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS AND CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. 
          UH, THEN WE HAD PROPOSITION THREE IN 2012. 
          UH, THAT WAS AIRPORT LAND ACQUISITION. 
          WE BRIEFLY DISCUSSED THIS AT THE, THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. 
          UM, THAT WAS $7 MILLION THAT WAS ISSUED TO PURCHASE LAND, UH, AT THE AIRPORT FOR DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, THAT WAS PURCHASED IN 2013. 
          UH, IN 2023, THE AIRPORT BEGAN SERVICING THAT DEBT. 
          SO THAT WAS VOTER APPROVED. 
          UM, UH, BONDS, UH, THAT THE TOWN WAS SERVICING UP UNTIL 2023. 
          THE AIRPORT WAS GENERATING ENOUGH REVENUE TO START SERVICING THOSE, UH, WITH THEIR REVENUE. 
          UH, THEN WE HAD PROPOSITION FOUR, WHICH WAS A PARKING GARAGE, UH, IN THE ARTS AND EVENTS DISTRICT. 
          UH, THAT WAS A $3 MILLION, UM, AUTHORIZATION THAT HAS NOT BEEN ISSUED TO DATE. 
          SO, UH, WITH THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND THE PARKING GARAGE, IT'S ANTICIPATED TO GO IN THERE FOR ABOUT $15 MILLION. 
          THAT AUTHORIZATION, ALONG WITH SOME CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE ISSUED FOR THAT PROJECT IN 20 26, 20 27, DEPENDING ON THE TIMELINE OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND THEN WE HAD PROPOSITION FIVE, WHICH WAS LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION AND OPTICAL CAMERA SYSTEM EXPANSION. 
          UH, THAT PROJECT, UH, WAS COMPLETED AS WELL. 
          UH, THEN WE HAD PROPOSITION SIX, AND THESE WERE RELATED TO, UH, TRAILS AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. 
          UH, THERE WAS A BELTWAY PROTON PEDESTRIAN PROJECT, UH, THAT WAS COMPLETED SOME TIME AGO. 
          WE HAD THE COTTON BELT, SILVER LINE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, AND THOSE ARE MATCHING FUNDS, AND WE ACTUALLY JUST PAID THOSE OUT, UH, THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          UH, SO OUR MATCHING COMPONENT OF THAT IS COMPLETE. 
          AND THEN THERE WAS SOME QUORUM DRIVE, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, UM, MONEY THAT WAS THERE AS WELL. 
          UH, THAT MONEY HAS BEEN COMBINED WITH AN AUTHORIZATION FROM THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM, AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT, UH, BECAUSE VOTERS APPROVED RECONSTRUCTION OF QUORUM DRIVE. 
          UH, SO THOSE, UH, FUNDS WERE COMBINED. 
          UH, SO IN TOTAL, THE 20 20 12 BOND PROGRAM, $55 MILLION. 
          UH, WE'VE ISSUED TO DATE, $42 MILLION. 
          UH, WE PLAN TO ISSUE THAT REMAINING $3 MILLION FOR A PARKING GARAGE 
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IN ADDITION, UH, WITH SOME OTHER, UM, FUNDS FOR THAT. 
          AND WE DON'T PLAN TO ISSUE THAT REMAINING $10 MILLION THAT WAS APPROVED FOR VITRUVIAN PARK STREETS BECAUSE WE FUNDED THAT WITH ANOTHER, UH, TYPE OF, UH, FUNDING MECHANISM. 
          AND THEN WE GET INTO OUR, OUR MOST CURRENT, UM, AUTHORIZATION, WHICH WAS IN 2019. 
          UH, SO THIS WAS $70,620,000, UH, THAT WAS APPROVED THROUGH VARIOUS PROPOSITIONS. 
          WE HAVE PROPOSITION A, WHICH WAS FOR RECONSTRUCTION OF KELLER SPRINGS ROAD AND AIRPORT PARKWAY. 
          UH, KELLER SPRINGS ROAD, UH, IS ABOUT TO BEGIN. 
          CONSTRUCTION, UH, CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT HAS BEEN AWARDED. 
          UH, THERE'S ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN ADDITION TO THE $12.9 MILLION IN BOND PROCEEDS THAT'S BEEN SOLD, UM, FROM DALLAS COUNTY. 
          AND THEN ALSO, UM, EARLIER IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE STORMWATER FUND TO CONTRIBUTE, UH, $2.8 MILLION OF THAT PROJECT. 
          UM, ALSO EARLIER IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD AUTHORIZE STAFF TO SEEK FUNDING THROUGH SOMETHING CALLED THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK. 
          UH, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE HAVE SOUGHT FUNDING, UH, THROUGH THAT PROGRAM FOR, WHICH WOULD BASICALLY GIVE US A LOWER INTEREST RATE, UH, THAN WE WOULD GET BY SELLING GEO BONDS. 
          UM, SO IF WE DID GET THAT FUNDING FROM THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK, WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO FORWARD AND SELL, UH, THE REMAINING, UH, BONDS RELATED TO THESE PROJECTS. 
          UH, THEN WE HAVE AIRPORT PARKWAY. 
          UH, THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN DESIGNED, UH, AND IF, UH, WE DID NOT, OR IF WE DID, UH, GET THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK FUNDING, UM, SINCE THESE ARE THE SAME PROPOSITION, WE WOULD USE THE MONEY THAT WAS ISSUED FOR KELLER SPRINGS, UH, AND APPLY THAT TO THIS AIRPORT PARKWAY PROJECT. 
          UH, SO IN TOTAL, ABOUT $22.3 MILLION WAS, UH, THE AUTHORIZED AMOUNT, UH, $6.8 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UH, FOR THE KELLER SPRINGS ROAD PROJECT, UH, FROM DALLAS COUNTY. 
          AND THE STORMWATER FUND, UH, BRINGS THOSE TWO PROJECTS TO A TOTAL OF $29.1 MILLION. 
          THEN WE HAVE PROPOSITION B, AND THIS IS QUORUM DRIVE. 
          SO AS I MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS, UM, BOND AUTHORIZATION, THERE WAS SOME MONEY THERE FOR QUORUM DRIVE, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. 
          THAT'S BEEN, UM, ADDED TO THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COMBINED. 
          UH, BUT ALSO WE, UM, HAD REQUESTED $22.9 MILLION FROM THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          WE HAD SOLD $4.1 MILLION IN, UH, THE AUTHORIZED, UM, UH, BONDS, UH, FOR THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, IF WE DID GET THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK FUNDING, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO SELL THE BONDS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAVE MONTFORT DRIVE, UH, WHICH, UH, WAS AUTHORIZED AT $7.3 MILLION. 
          UM, THERE WAS AN EXPANDED SCOPE AND THIS, THIS IS SHOWING AN EXPANDED SCOPE, UH, TO CELESTIAL. 
          WE SOLD 900,000 IN BONDS FOR THIS PROJECT, UM, IN 2023. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO REQUESTED THE ADDITIONAL $13.7 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT FROM THAT STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK AS WELL. 
          SO AGAIN, IF WE GOT THAT FUNDING, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO SELL THE BONDS. 
          THEN WE HAVE PROPOSITION C FROM 2019. 
          UH, THESE, UH, WERE FOR PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO WE HAD IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ATHLETIC CLUB, AND THESE WERE INTERIOR, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ATHLETIC CLUB, UH, LAY LOCK'S, POND IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UH, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT, UM, HAS BEEN DESIGNED, UM, IS, UH, NOT BEGUN CONSTRUCTION YET AND NOT BEEN AWARDED FOR CONSTRUCTION YET. 
          UM, COUNCIL HAD AUTHORIZED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE STORMWATER FUND, UH, AND THESE, UH, BOND PROCEEDS HAVE EARNED SOME INTEREST. 
          SO THOSE ARE ALSO BEING APPLIED TO THIS PROJECT. 
          AND THEN WE HAD SOME REDING TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THAT WERE ALSO PART OF THAT, UH, PROPOSITION C. 
          AND THEN WE HAD PROPOSITION D, AND THIS HAD, UH, MORE ATHLETIC CLUB IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THIS WAS SPECIFIC TO THE ROOF AND THE HVAC SYSTEMS. UH, THOUGH THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETE. 
          AND THEN WE ADD LOTS OF ADDITIONAL FACILITIES, PROJECTS TO ALL OF THE OTHER REMAINING FACILITIES IN TOWN. 
          UH, ABOUT 5,345,000. 
          UH, FOR THOSE PROJECTS, THEY WERE BROKEN INTO TWO PHASES. 
          PHASE ONE WAS COMPLETE. 
          UH, PHASE TWO IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 
          I BELIEVE THERE'S ABOUT $1.8 MILLION, UH, OF THOSE PROCEEDS LEFT TO BE SPENT. 
          THESE WERE PRIMARILY ROOF HVAC PROJECTS AND THEN A DA IMPROVEMENTS TO BASICALLY EVERY OTHER FACILITY, UM, WITHIN, UH, THE TOWN. 
          AND THEN WE HAD PROPOSITION E, WHICH WAS AN ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. 
          AND THAT PROJECT WAS COMPLETE. 
          SO IN TOTAL, THAT 2019 BOND PROGRAM, 70,620,000, UH, TO DATE, WE'VE SOLD, UH, 33,748,000. 
          UM, THERE IS A REMAINING AUTHORIZATION THERE OF 36,872,000. 
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UM, WE HAD REQUESTED FROM THAT STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK, UH, 44.6 MILLION. 
          AND THAT INCLUDES THAT EXPANDED SCOPE OF MONTFORD DRIVE. 
          SO AGAIN, IF WE GOT THAT FUNDING, WE WOULDN'T GO BACK AND SELL THESE REMAINING BONDS. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING. 
          MAYOR, I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STEVEN. 
          UM, STEVEN, THANKS FOR TAKING US THROUGH ALL OF THAT. 
          UH, BEFORE, BEFORE WE GET TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING NEXT, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND A COUPLE THINGS. 
          UM, SPECIFICALLY ON MONTFORT DRIVE, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE THINGS IN THE AIR THAT ARE GONNA DICTATE THE TOTAL COST. 
          IS THAT THAT'S CORRECT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND, AND, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS, UM, AIRPORT PARKWAY. 
          UM, DO THAT, THAT PROJECT COST OF 9 MILLION, 400,000, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S STILL UP IN THE YEAR. 
          RIGHT? THAT PROJECT HAS NOT BEEN BID. 
          IT'S BEEN DESIGNED, SO WE SOLD BONDS FOR THE DESIGN BACK IN 2020. 
          IT'S BEEN DESIGNED, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN BID. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO, OKAY, I GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO BEFORE WE, THE NE WHEN YOU TAKE US INTO THE SPREADSHEET, UM, THESE ARE JUST ESTIMATES. 
          BA I MEAN, FOR THE MOST PART THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE, BUT, BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT ANYTHING IN AN OUT YEAR IS GOING TO BE AN ESTIMATE, BUT A, UH, WELL, NOT AN ESTIMATE THAT I CAME UP WITH. 
          GENERALLY IT'S AN ENGINEERING ESTIMATE, BUT ANYTHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED RIGHT, STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON, WE'VE ALREADY GOT, WE'VE ALREADY BID. 
          I, OKAY. 
          I THINK A WAY TO SAY IT IS, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF A CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTIONS FOR THE OUT YEARS. 
          SO I WOULD TAKE MFER AS AN EXAMPLE THAT IS SHOWING IF THIS FULL SCOPE HAPPENS, WE ALL THE WAY THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S LIKELY AT THIS POINT. 
          SO THAT NUMBER WILL LIKELY BE A LOT SMALLER THAN WHAT'S IN THERE. 
          ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT WAS IN THE Q AND A REFERENCED IS ON THE GARAGE. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TOURS CONVERSATION NEXT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE THAT COULD TAKE THAT AWAY. 
          SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES WHERE MAYBE THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE. 
          SO WHEN YOU SEE THE LATER FORECAST RIGHT, THAT COULD BE A LOT LOWER. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          THAT HELPS. 
          IS THERE, DAVID, IS THERE ANY, UH, DAVID OR STEVEN, IS THERE ANY, ANY OTHER ONE THAT YOU CAN THINK OF THAT MAYBE WE, WE DIDN'T JUST DISCUSS JUST NOW THAT MIGHT FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY? THE, WELL, THERE'S A, THERE'S A ANOTHER PROJECT POTENTIALLY FOR THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE TOD. 
          UM, THOSE, SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS COULD POTENTIALLY BE RELATED TO A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE WHERE THAT COULD PAY FOR THAT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE RATHER THAN THE, THAN THAN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          AND, AND STEVEN, JUST TO, TO FOLLOW UP ON ONE OF MARLON'S QUESTIONS ON, UH, THE COST FOR AIRPORT PARKWAY SINCE THAT WAS, UH, FROM 2020 MM-HMM. 
          , WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED WITH COLOR SPRINGS PROJECT KIND OF WENT UP. 
          WE WE PROBABLY EXPECT THE SAME THING. 
          SOMETHING, SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH AIRPORT. 
          UM, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA SAY NO, , I LIKE THAT ANSWER. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, SO IN ADDITION, WELL WHAT, WHAT I'LL SAY WITH THAT AS WELL IS THAT WE DO HAVE SOME EXTRA FUNDS THERE BECAUSE WE SOLD 13 MILLION. 
          DO BASICALLY, WELL, WE SOLD $14 MILLION BACK IN 2020. 
          UM, THE KELLER SPRINGS PROJECT HAS NOT EVEN BEGUN CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN EARNING INTEREST AND THERE'S A LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF INTEREST I CAN EARN ON THOSE BOND PROCEEDS. 
          BUT WE'VE EARNED QUITE A BIT OF INTEREST THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO ANY OTHER ROAD PROJECT. 
          UM, SO IT MAY BE MORE THAN WHAT WE'VE PROJECTED, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THAT WE HAVE SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, UM, MONEY THAT WE CAN USE FOR THAT PROJECT AS WELL THAT WE HAVE TO USE FOR, FOR A ROAD PROJECT ANYWAY. 
          YEAH, VERY GOOD. 
          AND I ASSUME YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HIT THAT LIMIT ON WHATEVER WE CAN COLLECT ON INTEREST ON THAT. 
          UM, SO HOPEFULLY ON, UH, JUST A CLARIFICATION FOR ME, ON MONTFORD DRIVE, THE 7.3 FROM THE OTHER FUNDING IS THAT FROM THE, UH, STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK? SO, SO WE HAD REQUESTED THAT FROM THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK. 
          SO WE HAD RECEIVED AN OPINION OF PROBABLE COST RELATED TO THAT FULLY EXPANDED SCOPE ON THAT MONTFORD DRIVE PROJECT. 
          AND WHEN I, UH, BROUGHT THAT STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK CONVERSATION TO THE COUNCIL, UM, EARLIER, UH, IN THE, IN THE CALENDAR YEAR, UM, I HAD MENTIONED THAT WE WERE INCLUDING THAT FULL AMOUNT. 
          NOW, IF THE SCOPE CHANGED, WE DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT IF WE GOT THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE LOAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT IT ALL. 
          SO THAT LOAN WILL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL IF WE DO GET APPROVED FOR ANY OF THAT LOAN FUNDING. 
          AND IF, IF THAT SCOPE WAS CUT BACK AT, LET'S SAY THEY GAVE US THE FULL, FULL 44.6 AND WE SAID, WELL, WE DON'T NOW, WE DON'T NEED THAT MUCH FOR MONTFORD DRIVE, WE CAN TELL THEM, OKAY, WE ONLY NEED, YOU KNOW, AN ADDITIONAL 2 MILLION OR, OR WHATEVER THE AMOUNT IS. 
          SO WE'LL GET TO PICK THE FUNDING BASED ON THE ACTUAL SCOPE THAT WE CHOOSE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS NANCY. 
          UH, YES, I HAD 
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A, MY QUESTION ACTUALLY WAS IN REGARD TO THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK AND THE, UM, APPLICATIONS THAT YOU'VE PUT IN. 
          COULD YOU JUST REFRESH JUST BRIEFLY, UH, THAT, THAT EXPECTED TIMELINE AND PROCESS ON? SURE. 
          SO I HAD SUBMITTED THE APPLICATIONS IN APRIL. 
          UM, THEIR TIMELINE IS GENERALLY BETWEEN TWO AND FOUR MONTHS TO GET A FUNDING DECISION. 
          SO WE ARE AT, RIGHT AT TWO MONTHS NOW. 
          UM, SO ANY, ANY DAY, BUT IT COULD BE ANOTHER TWO MONTHS, COULD BE THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST. 
          UM, THEY MEET, UM, NOT VERY OFTEN, SO I THINK THEY MAY MEET QUARTERLY. 
          SO IT'S NOT, IT, IT'S NOT VERY, VERY QUICK TURNAROUND. 
          ONCE WE ACTUALLY GET A FUNDING DECISION, THE ACTUAL LOAN FUNDING PROCESS IS ABOUT ONE TO TWO MONTHS. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, JUST TO FOLLOW UP, I'M SURE THE APPLICATIONS WERE QUITE COMPLETE, BUT JUST CURIOUS, DID THEY COME BACK WITH, DO YOU EVER HEAR FROM THEM DURING THE PROCESS WITH QUESTIONS? YEAH, BUT THEY ASKED FOR SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION RELATED TO THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS. 
          LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH IS DRAINAGE OR PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS AND ENGINEERING AND ROADWAY AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 
          SO WE GAVE THEM ALL OF THAT DETAIL FOR THE THREE PROJECTS. 
          AND, UM, AND DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW OF ANY OTHER, UM, WHAT THEIR ACTIVITY, WHAT THEIR FUNDING ACTIVITIES HAVE BEEN OF RECENT? I MEAN, ARE THEY, I THINK BACK IN THE PRESENTATION BACK A WHILE BACK, YOU, YOU HAD SOMETHING, I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE TRACKING THAT OR YEAH, I HAD ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THEIR WEBSITE, UM, I THINK LAST WEEK JUST TO SEE IF THEY HAD MET RECENTLY AND IF THEY HAD ANY UPDATES. 
          UM, AND THERE'S NOT BEEN A LOT OF, HONESTLY, THEY HAVEN'T PUSHED IT THAT MUCH. 
          AND, UM, THE LAST TWO FINANCE CONFERENCES I'VE BEEN AT, THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN THERE AND PRESENTED. 
          SO IT'S LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE, UH, TO ASK THEM FOR MONEY. 
          SO I'M PRETTY HOPEFUL. 
          BUT, UM, AGAIN, THEY ONLY DO THESE FUNDING DECISIONS I THINK ONCE A QUARTER, UH, WHEN, WHEN THEY MEET. 
          SO JUST, JUST WAITING. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          HOWARD, DO WE HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY THIS BACK? YES, WE DO. 
          , I MEAN, WE'RE BORROWING A LOT OF MONEY, RIGHT, WITH BONDS AND, AND CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. 
          IS THIS A 20 YEAR PAYBACK? DO WE HAVE, I MEAN, I'M SO NEW AT THIS, I'M, THESE NUMBERS ARE MIND BOGGLING. 
          I'M SORRY, I JUST, IF I'M GONNA BE ASKED TO VOTE ON SOMETHING, I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO, UM, BASICALLY ANY, THE MAJORITY OF OUR PROJECTS ARE PAID BACK OVER A 20 YEAR TIMEFRAME. 
          UH, SO GENERALLY WHEN WE ISSUE BONDS, UH, MOST OF THE PROJECTS ARE GONNA HAVE A LIFE OF OVER 20 YEARS. 
          LIKE IF IT'S A ROAD, IT HAS A LIFE OF GENERALLY 40 YEARS. 
          WE ISSUE 20 YEAR BONDS FOR THAT, FOR THAT ROAD. 
          UM, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT SAY HAS A LIFE OF 10 YEARS, WE ISSUE 10 YEAR BONDS. 
          UM, BUT MOST OF OUR STUFF HAS A USEFUL LIFE OF OVER 20 YEARS. 
          SO WE SELL BONDS THAT ARE 20 YEARS. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION HAVE A COUPLE SLIDES AND WE'RE GONNA ZOOM KIND OF OUT AND TALK ABOUT THE BIG PICTURE. 
          SO TO KIND OF PUT SOME OF THESE SLIDES THAT YOU'VE SEEN INTO CONTEXT FOR YOUR QUESTION OF DO WE, CAN WE PAY THESE BACK AND WHAT'S THE PROCESS? YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE SEEN SO FAR ARE PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED BY VOTERS. 
          AND WE, WHEN WE GO TO VOTERS FOR A BOND ELECTION, WE SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE ANTICIPATE AS A TAX RATE IMPACT. 
          AND WE DO THAT BECAUSE THE DEBT SERVICE PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE IS ESSENTIALLY JUST A MATH CALCULATION. 
          IT SAYS, HOW MUCH DEBT DO WE HAVE OUTSTANDING, AND WHAT IS THE RATE THAT WE NEED FROM THE PROPERTY TAX TO PAY FOR IT? SO IT JUST THAT THAT'S THE RATE. 
          IT'S JUST PROPERTY TAX. 
          IT'S JUST PROPERTY TAX, NOT SALES TAX. 
          WHO OUR DEBT SERVICES PAID JUST THROUGH THE PROPERTY TAX. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND DO WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS WE'RE ALREADY PAYING BACK THAT ARE IN THE WORKS FROM PREVIOUS THAT ARE, WE'RE PAYING ON NOW IN ADDITION TO ALL THIS? ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND IF, AND ONE OF THE SIDES THAT YOU'LL SEE IN, IN A LITTLE BIT, YOU'LL SEE KIND OF THE FUTURE OF OUR DEBT SERVICE RATE AND, AND OUR, AND OUR DEBT SERVICE BURDEN. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE WHEN OUR DEBT FALLS OFF AND WHAT THE ANTICIPATION IS. 
          AND ANYTIME YOU GO INTO A BOND ELECTION, WHEN YOU HAVE A BOND COMMITTEE, THAT'S A LARGE PART OF WHAT THEY DO IS THEY TRY TO ANTICIPATE WHEN DO WE SEE DEBT FALLING OFF? WHEN DO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE ADDING MORE DEBT? AND THAT'S PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND YOU SAID THAT WE'VE RAISED MONEY FROM THE BOND SALES THAT'S BEEN INVESTED IN EARNING INTEREST. 
          AREN'T WE PAYING INTEREST FOR THE PEOPLE PAYING INTEREST THAT WE, THAT BOUGHT THE BONDS? WE ARE PAYING INTEREST ON, ON THE BONDS. 
          SO, AND THERE'S A LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF INTEREST THAT WE CAN EARN ON THOSE PROCEEDS AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE TAX EXEMPT, WE CAN'T EARN, WE CAN'T SELL BONDS AND THEN BASICALLY TRY TO MAKE A BUNCH OF MONEY ON THAT SALE. 
          UM, SO WE ARE EARNING INTEREST, UM, BUT WE ARE ALSO ARE PAYING INTEREST. 
          SO, UM, WHAT 
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I'VE TRIED TO DO SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IS WE DON'T, WE DON'T JUST GO OUT AND SELL BONDS BECAUSE THEY WERE AUTHORIZED. 
          WE SELL BONDS WHEN WE'RE READY TO DO THE PROJECT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME, CHRIS. 
          AND JUST WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE BOND WORLD RIGHT NOW? LIKE WHERE ARE RATES COMPARED TO MAYBE SOME OF THE MOST RECENT THINGS WE FUNDED AND THEN, UH, THOSE RATES COMPARED TO THE, UM, STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK? YEAH, SO ACTUALLY TAX EXEMPT RATES ARE STILL VERY LOW. 
          UM, UH, IT, IT SOUNDS STRANGE TO SAY THAT WHEN YOU SEE WHAT A MORTGAGE RATE LOOKS LIKE, BUT, UM, WHAT WE COULD EXPECT IF WE WENT OUT AND SOLD TODAY, UH, IS PROBABLY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THREE POINT HALF AND 3.75%, WHICH IS NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS 2019 AND THE, THE FEW YEARS PRIOR TO THAT. 
          UM, THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK TAKES, UH, BASICALLY THERE'S A, A AAA, WHICH IS WHAT WE RATED AAA, UM, BASIC ANNUAL OR BASICALLY DAILY YIELD. 
          UH, WHAT, WHAT AAA BOND IS ON AVERAGE SELLING FOR EACH DAY. 
          THEY'LL TAKE THAT AND THEY'LL REDUCE THAT RATE BY 95 BASIS POINTS OR BASICALLY ALMOST A FULL PERCENT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK WOULD DO. 
          IF WE WENT OUT AND SOLD OUR BONDS FOR THREE AND A HALF PERCENT, THEY WOULD TAKE ALMOST A FULL PERCENT OFF OF THAT. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHERS? CARRY ON. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN COMMITTED PROJECTS. 
          SO, UH, THESE COMMITTED PROJECTS, AS I MENTIONED, WOULD BE, UH, FROM AGREEMENTS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS AUTHORIZED OR DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          UH, THE LARGEST ONE THAT WE HAVE IS VITRUVIAN PARK PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          UH, SO THIS WAS A LARGE COMMITMENT, ABOUT $50 MILLION IN TOTAL PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, ABOUT 41 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OF THAT, UH, COMMITMENT HAS BEEN MET TO DATE. 
          UM, THERE'S ABOUT $8.5 MILLION IN REMAINING COMMITMENT. 
          UM, WE PRELIMINARILY, UH, BELIEVE THAT, UH, THERE WILL BE ABOUT ABOUT A $3 MILLION NEED IN 2025, UH, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION AND THEN ABOUT $5.5 MILLION IN 2030. 
          UH, THIS IS JUST BASED ON THE DEVELOPER SCHEDULE. 
          SO WE TALK TO THEM EACH YEAR AND WE GET A, BASICALLY A FIVE YEAR PLAN OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT, AND WE PLAN OUR, UM, BOND PROGRAM IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT SO THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY, UH, FOR THOSE PROJECTS GOING FORWARD. 
          UH, THEN WE HAVE ADDISON GROVE. 
          THIS IS A TOTAL COMMITMENT OF ABOUT SIX AND A HALF MILLION. 
          UH, THE TOWN SET ASIDE ABOUT HALF OF THIS COMMITMENT BACK IN 2017, UH, IN CASH. 
          SO WE HAVE A FUND CALLED THE ADDISON GROVE ESCROW FUND. 
          UM, THE TOWN SET $3 MILLION IN THAT FUND. 
          UH, NOW IT'S EARNED INTEREST. 
          THERE'S OVER $3.3 MILLION THERE. 
          UH, THE REMAINING FUNDING, UH, WAS, UM, RECOMMENDED TO BE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. 
          UH, WE THINK THAT THAT DEVELOPER IS GONNA START TO MEET THOSE INCENTIVES, UM, EITHER AT THE END OF 2024, BEGINNING OF 2025. 
          UH, SO WE WOULD NEED TO START FUNDING, UH, THAT INCENTIVE, UH, FOR THAT, FOR THOSE, UH, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PARKING GARAGE AND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE ESTIMATED COST OF THAT PARKING GARAGE IS ABOUT $15 MILLION, UH, WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE, UH, GEO BONDS AND THEN CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. 
          UH, THEN THE ESTIMATED COST OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IS ABOUT $14 MILLION, UH, WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED BY CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. 
          AND AS WE BRIEFLY DISCUSSED THAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE, ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT IF THERE IS A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE THAT, UH, THAT COULD FUND THE DEBT SERVICE OF THESE PROJECTS, UH, AND REMOVE THOSE ESSENTIALLY FROM THAT INTEREST IN SINKING TAX RATE. 
          AND THEN SOME RE RECOMMENDED FACILITY PROJECTS. 
          AND THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN, UH, DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL, UH, OVER THE LAST, UH, A FEW MONTHS OR, OR YEAR OR SO. 
          UH, SO TOWN FACILITY PROJECTS, UH, A NEW POLICE STATION, UH, PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED BY CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION ISSUED BETWEEN THE FISCAL YEARS OF 2025 AND 2027. 
          UH, THAT'S, UH, UH, AN, UM, ESTIMATED PROJECT COST OF ABOUT $35 MILLION. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, THE CONFERENCE CENTER OFFICE TRANSITION, UH, THAT IS, UH, PROPOSED $2 MILLION TO FURTHER CONVERT THE CONFERENCE CENTER HERE, UM, TO OFFICES, WHICH WILL HOUSE ALL THE FOLKS OVER AT TOWN HALL AND LET THEM RELOCATE OVER HERE. 
          UH, THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED BY THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND WITH CASH AND THEN OTHER FACILITIES PROJECTS. 
          UH, SO THE TOWN, UH, OPERATES, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH COPPEL FARMER'S BRANCH, UH, CARROLLTON, UH, THE NORTH TEXAS EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER. 
          UH, THEY CURRENTLY LEASE SPACE, UH, THEIR LEASE IS GONNA BE UP HERE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, AND THAT LEASE AMOUNT IS GOING TO INCREASE, 
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UH, PRETTY DRAMATICALLY. 
          UM, SO THERE'S A PROPOSAL FOR THAT PROJECT, UH, FOR A PROJECT, UH, FOR THEM TO CONSTRUCT A NEW FACILITY WHICH THEY WOULD OWN. 
          UM, AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO ISSUE A CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION FOR OUR PORTION OF THAT PROJECT. 
          UM, ON ONE SIDE OF THIS, WHILE IT DOES INCREASE, UH, THE, UH, INTEREST IN SINKING PORTION OF THE TAX RATE, UH, THE PORTION THAT WE PAY FOR THE LEASE IS COMING FROM OUR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PORTION OF OUR TAX RATE. 
          SO THIS ACTUALLY, WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE IN CONJUNCTION, SHOULD OVERALL COST US LESS MONEY BECAUSE THE LEASE WAS GONNA BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE DEBT SERVICE ON A NEW FACILITY. 
          STEVEN, IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN ON, ON THIS ONE. 
          WE SPOKE FOR OUR, OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS OF A COUPLE MEETINGS PRIOR TO Y'ALL JOINING COUNCIL. 
          WE HAD A WORK SESSION ON THIS ITEM WHERE WE KIND OF, WE DUG INTO THE ANALYSIS THAT WENT INTO IT FOR THE LEASE FIRST, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO CERTAINLY WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I CAN ALSO POINT YOU TO THAT PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS WELL. 
          AND THEN, SO WHEN I'VE DONE THIS PRESENTATION EVERY YEAR, WE'VE, WE'VE EVALUATED HOW, UH, THE BOND COMMITTEE FROM 2019, HOW, WHAT, WHAT THEY WERE ESTIMATING THAT, UH, INTEREST IN SINKING PROPERTY TAX RATE TO BE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UM, AND WHAT THAT MAXIMUM TAX RATE WAS GONNA BE AND COMPARE THAT TO HOW WE'RE PERFORMING NOW. 
          UH, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN, YOU KNOW, FISCAL YEAR 2024, GOING INTO FISCAL YEAR 2025, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2024. 
          THEY ESTIMATED THAT WE WERE GONNA BE AT ABOUT 24.65 CENTS AND THEN GOING UP TO A MAX OF ABOUT 25.69 CENTS IN 2026. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT, THE CURRENT INTEREST IN SINKING TAX RATE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, UH, IS JUST UNDER 16 CENTS. 
          SO WE'RE ALMO, WE'RE ACTUALLY OVER 8 CENTS BELOW WHAT THAT, UH, 2019 BOND COMMITTEE ESTIMATED WE WOULD BE AT. 
          NOW, THERE'S A COMBINATION OF REASONS WHY PROPERTY VALUES HAVE GONE UP, UM, MORE THAN, THAN WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED. 
          INTEREST RATES WERE LOWER, UH, FOR THE BONDS THAT WE SOLD. 
          WE REFINANCED BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD THAT WAS IN OUR DEBT PORTFOLIO AND GOT MUCH LOWER, UH, INTEREST RATES THAN WHAT WAS CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS. 
          UM, SO A COMBINATION OF, OF THOSE THINGS, UH, HELPED BRING US TO A TAX RATE THAT'S, THAT'S LOWER THAN IT WAS ANTICIPATED AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          UM, AND THEN THE CURRENT ESTIMATE WITH THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED AND THAT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THAT THOSE SIB LOANS ARE ANTICIPATED, THERE'S AN, THAT ADDITIONAL SCOPE FOR MONTFORD IN THERE. 
          UH, THE PARKING GARAGE HAS ADDITIONAL $12 MILLION, SO THERE'S EVEN MORE LISTED ON THIS CURRENT ESTIMATE THAN, THAN WHAT WAS, UM, SHOWN TO THAT BOND COMMITTEE IN 2019. 
          AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT MAXIMUM TAX RATE THAT WE WOULD GET UP TO IS ABOUT 21, UH, 0.44 CENTS. 
          SO STILL SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN WHAT THE BOND COMMITTEE SHOWED BACK IN 2019. 
          UM, AND THEN WHEN WE GO FORWARD AND WE LOOK AT INCLUDING, UH, A POLICE STATION AT $35 MILLION, AND THEN, UM, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE OVER AT THE TRANSIT IAN DEVELOPMENT, IT GETS UP TO BE ABOUT 0.9 OF ONE PENNY ABOVE WHAT WAS SHOWN BACK IN 2019. 
          BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL FACTORS THAT, UH, COULD LOWER THAT. 
          AND, AND I ANTICIPATE THIS BEING LOWER THAN WHAT'S SHOWN HERE. 
          UH, ONE BEING THAT INTEREST RATES, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT INTEREST RATES RATES WOULD BE LOWER THAN WHAT THE ASSUMPTIONS ARE, UH, IN THIS MODEL. 
          UH, OVERALL PROPERTY TAX, VAL PROPERTY, UH, VALUE GROWTH, UM, IS PRETTY CONSERVATIVE IN THIS MODEL. 
          WE COULD ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WOULD BE HIGHER, WHICH WOULD LOWER THE TAX RATE. 
          UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT WE BRIEFLY TOUCHED ON IS, UH, THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, UH, IF THERE IS A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, UH, IN THIS DISTRICT, THAT THOSE FUNDS COULD BE USED TO SERVICE THE DEBT OF THOSE PROJECTS, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, EITHER THE PARKING GARAGE OR THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, A COMBINATION OF BOTH OF THOSE AND COULD LOWER THAT, UH, INTEREST IN SINKING PORTION OF THAT TAX RATE BY UP TO THREE AND A HALF CENTS, UH, JUST FOR THOSE, UH, TYPES OF PROJECTS. 
          SO, UM, SO OVERALL, I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT, AND I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WE'LL BE STILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW WHAT WAS SHOWN BACK IN 2019. 
          AND I'LL SAY THAT THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE, DAVID GETS ONTO ME FOR MY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES ON THESE THINGS. 
          BUT, UM, BUT SOME OF THIS COMES FROM OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, AND I'LL SAY THAT THE PERCENTAGES THAT THEY'RE INCLUDING OUT HERE, THE INTEREST RATE ASSUMPTIONS ARE THE SAME THAT THEY USED IN 2019. 
          SO IT IS MORE OF AN APPLES TO APPLES KIND OF COMPARISON. 
          IT IS CONSERVATIVE, IT WAS CONSERVATIVE IN 2019. 
          IT'S STILL CONSERVATIVE BASED ON INTEREST RATES NOW. 
          SO, BUT ANYWAY, I WOULD ANTICIPATE US PERFORMING BETTER THAN WHAT'S WHAT'S SHOWN HERE. 
          SO I DO THINK THAT THERE'S 
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CAPACITY TO ACCOMPLISH ALL OF THESE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT FORWARD, UH, BASICALLY FOR A LOWER TAX RATE THAN WHAT VOTERS WERE TOLD BACK IN 2019. 
          AND THEN THIS IS A, A FURTHER COMPARISON, A LINE, A LINE GRAPH OF, UH, THE BLUE LINE THERE IS THE 20 20 19 BOND COMMITTEE. 
          UH, WE HAVE AN ORANGE LINE AND A AND A GRAY LINE, AND THEY'RE OVERLAPPING UNTIL THEY GET BASICALLY TO 2026 BECAUSE THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME, UH, THROUGH 2026. 
          AND THEN YOU START TO SEE THE, UH, POLICE STATION, UH, POTENTIALLY AND THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THERE FOR THE TOD, UH, THAT DEBT SERVICE, UH, START TO, UH, UH, BE IN THERE. 
          UH, SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THOSE COMPARE. 
          BUT AGAIN, I WOULD ANTICIPATE OUR LINES, UH, UH, FOR THE, EITHER THE CURRENT PROGRAM OR THE PROGRAM, INCLUDING THE POLICE STATION AND THE TOD, UH, TO BE BELOW THAT BLUE LINE GOING FORWARD, UH, AS THEY ARE, UM, SINCE 2019. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE, ANY OF ALL THAT INFORMATION? YEAH, I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT, UH, UH, SLIDE 14. 
          YOU'VE GOT FUTURE VALUES, ASSUME 5% GROWTH IN FISCAL YEAR 2025. 
          UH, CAN YOU SHARE ANY, SHARE ANY COLOR ON THAT? YEAH, SO WE'VE ALREADY STARTED RECEIVING SOME PRELIMINARY VALUES FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, UM, FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025. 
          UM, MY ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE'LL END UP AT ABOUT 6%. 
          SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT CONSERVATIVE, UM, BUT IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE 5%. 
          SO, UM, IT'S A, IT'S GONNA BE A PRETTY, A PRETTY GOOD INCREASE STILL. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          THANKS DARREN. 
          SO ON TO SLIDE 16 WITH THE CHART, THAT REALLY DOES TELL A LOT OF THE STORY. 
          UM, WITH ANTECH, THE FUNDING, UH, MOVING FROM OUR, AN OPERATING EXPENSE OVER TO, UM, DEBT, UM, HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT IS THAT ON THE TAX RATE? IT, IT'S NOT AS MUCH OF AN IMPACT UNTIL WE GET, WHEN, GET PAST, I THINK, 2029, WHEN THEIR NEW LEASE WOULD'VE TAKEN EFFECT WHEN WE GET PAST THEN, WHICH THOUGH IT, IT REALLY STARTS TO BE AN IMPACT. 
          I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT THEIR ESTIMATES WERE, UH, FOR THAT, UH, THAT LEASE BEGINNING IN 2029. 
          BUT IT IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH OF THE PEAK THAT WE SEE IN 28, IT'S, IT'S WHEN THINGS ARE FALLING OFF, THEN IT'S STARTING TO COME BACK, COME UP. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THE, UM, I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED THIS, AND I I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT, BUT CLARIFICATION WITH THE, UH, THE TOD, THE GARAGE TOD INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE GARAGE, IF WE DO A, A TIFF, WHATEVER THE DISTRICT IS CALLED. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH IMPACT WILL THAT HAVE ON THE TAX RATE, THE, THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE? HOW MUCH WILL IT OH, AS FAR AS HAVING THAT SERVICE? THE DEBT? YES. 
          FOR THESE PROJECTS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , IT COULD BE UP TO ABOUT THREE AND A HALF CENTS. 
          I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT YOU SAID THREE AND A HALF CENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE WITH THIS CHART HERE IS, YES, IT'S CONSERVATIVE, BUT IT IS THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND IT'S, IT'S HIGHER, UH, THAN THE VOTERS HAVE BEEN TOLD OR THE PROJECTIONS. 
          SO I WOULD, I WOULD WANT TO SEE SOMETHING MORE ACCURATE, UM, IN, IN THE FUTURE AT LEAST MAYBE A HIGH AND A LOW, UM, HIGH LOW, AND, AND VERY MUCH LIKELY THAT'S JUST A, A SUGGESTION. 
          I'M NOT, I'M NOT GIVING DIRECTION. 
          THAT'S JUST SOME OF MY INPUT. 
          THANK YOU, DARREN. 
          ANY OTHERS? I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          THE BONDS THAT ARE ISSUED, THOSE AFFECT THE TAX RATE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          DO CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION AFFECT THE TAX RATE AS WELL? YES. 
          SO THOSE HAPPEN WITHOUT THE VOTERS VOTING ON THOSE, THOSE REQUIRE. 
          SO, SO THOSE DON'T REQUIRE VOTERS. 
          THOSE ARE A AUTHORIZATION OF THE COUNCIL. 
          AND THEN WE'RE REQUIRED TO PUT OUT A NOTICE OF OUR INTENT TO SELL CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, OBLIGATION, UH, AND THAT GIVES, UM, RESIDENTS OR, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT LIVES IN, IN THE TOWN, UH, THE ABILITY TO PETITION, UH, IF THEY WISHED, UM, TO REQUIRE THAT TO BE A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND. 
          THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN A LOT, BUT IT'S BASICALLY APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          ARE THERE, ARE THERE MORE CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATIONS ISSUED THAN BONDS APPROVED OR FOR, FOR ADDISON SPECIFICALLY? I MEAN, IT, I, I DIDN'T ADD UP THE DIFFERENT NUMBERS FOR WHICH WERE, WHICH, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THERE ARE A LOT OF CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATIONS BEING ISSUED. 
          TH THERE ARE, AND, AND SOME OF THOSE ARE FUNDED. 
          UH, THEY'RE NOT ALL FUNDED BY PROPERTY TAXES, 
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THEY'RE ALL BACKED BY PROPERTY TAXES. 
          BUT IF IT'S FOR THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT, IT'S FUNDED BY WATER AND SEWER REVENUE. 
          IF IT'S FOR THE AIRPORT, IT'S FUNDED BY THE AIRPORT. 
          IF IT'S FOR STORMWATER PURPOSES, IT'S FUNDED BY STORMWATER REVENUES. 
          THOSE ARE ALL CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, UM, FOR THEIR BOND PROGRAMS. BUT THEY'RE FUNDED BY THE REVENUES, UH, IN THOSE FUNDS, AND NOT PROPERTY TAXES, BUT THEY DO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF PROPERTY TAXES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COULD YOU, UH, REVIEW, UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT, UH, CANON, WHAT COS CAN AND CAN'T BE USED FOR? THEY, AND THE, THE LAW HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO BASICALLY, UM, THEY CAN BE USED FOR ANYTHING THAT'S SELF-SUPPORTING. 
          SO IF WE HAVE, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, OUR AIRPORT IS, IS FUNDING SOMETHING, THEN, THEN THEY CAN BE USED FOR ANY SELF-SUPPORTING DEBT. 
          UM, THE LIST OF THINGS THEY CAN'T BE USED FOR IS BASICALLY, UM, CIVIC CENTERS TYPE THINGS LIKE THAT, THINGS RELATED TO SPORTS. 
          UM, I THINK SPORTS STADIUMS, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          UM, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK. 
          UH, BUT BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT'S PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, UH, CAN, CAN BE USED, UH, OKAY. 
          BY COS. 
          GOTCHA. 
          BECAUSE I, I KNEW IT WAS MOSTLY THE, THE NECESSITIES, BASICALLY THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE USAGE AND EMERGENCY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF I, WHILE WE STILL, JUST TO, IF I COULD GO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, DARREN, FROM EARLIER, AND SINCE THIS LINE GRAPH IS STILL UP HERE, LIKE WE SAID, WE THINK THAT GRAY LINE'S CONSERVATIVE AND APPROPRIATELY SO FOR EVERYTHING WE HAVE IN THERE AND THAT IT'S GONNA BE BELOW THAT BLUE LINE FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT WE'VE MENTIONED. 
          BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT TOO, WE'RE LOOKING AT 27, 28. 
          IN 2019, I'M SURE THAT THEY ANTICIPATED ABOUT 27, 28, WE'D BE GOING INTO A NEW BOND PROGRAM AS WELL. 
          SO YOU START TO SEE THAT DIP. 
          I THINK IT WOULD ALWAYS HAVE BEEN ANTICIPATED, YOU KNOW, EIGHT, NINE YEARS AFTER THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN STARTING ANOTHER CONVERSATION ON A BOND PROGRAM REGARDLESS. 
          SO I THINK WHILE WE, WHILE CERTAINLY DOING THE POLICE STATION NOW, BECAUSE OF THE URGENCY THAT WE HAVE IS PUSHING IT UP A COUPLE YEARS, I THINK IT WOULD ALWAYS HAVE BEEN CONTEMPLATED TO HAVE A, A BOND, A NEW BOND ELECTION AT SOME POINT AS YOU START TO SEE IT GO DOWN, IF THAT HELPS AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT. 
          IT DOES, I WOULD AGREE. 
          WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WANNA FUND THE POLICE STATION VIA A BOND PROGRAM, UM, FOR VOTER APPROVAL AND, AND EDUCATION IDEALLY. 
          UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S A NECESSITY. 
          IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A PRESSING ISSUE. 
          I WAS ON THE 2019 BOND COMMITTEE, SO KNOWING THAT THESE, THIS DEBT WOULD ROLL OFF AND THEN NEW DEBT WOULD ROLL ON FOR THE THINGS WE NEED, UM, MAKES IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO ME. 
          BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT TO BRING UP. 
          AND STEVEN, I HAVE IN MY HEAD, AND YOU CAN HELP ME CLARIFY THAT, MAKE SURE THAT I'M CORRECT. 
          IF, IF A, IF, IF SOMETHING WAS PUT IN, IN, UH, TO THE VOTER TO VOTE FOR, UH, FOR, UH, GENERAL OBLIG, GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, AND IT'S NOT APPROVED. 
          ISN'T THERE A PRETTY LONG WAITING PERIOD BEFORE THIS, THIS TOWN COULD DO COS YEAH. 
          UH, I BELIEVE THEY CHANGED THAT FROM THREE YEARS TO FIVE YEARS. 
          THIS LAST FIVE YEARS NOW LEGISLATIVE SESSION BECAUSE I HAD THREE IN MY HEAD. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I, I'D HAVE TO CHECK AND MAKE SURE IF THAT PASSED, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WAS LEGISLATION OUT THERE TO, UM, MOVE THAT FROM THREE YEARS TO FIVE YEARS. 
          UM, I DO KNOW THAT IT WAS THREE YEARS, BUT I'LL, I'D HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT. 
          IT'S AT LEAST THREE YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          WHICH, WHICH TO ME JUST MAY MAKES IT MORE IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY IS IMPORTANT TO GET DONE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, THE, THE COS THE WAY TO GO. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          AND YOU KNOW, I THINK IT, IT'D PROBABLY BE GOOD JUST TO, TO GIVE SOME OF THAT CLARITY ON WHAT THE PURPOSE OF COS ARE TOO. 
          AND SO A HIGH LEVEL STEVEN CAN GIVE SOME MORE INFORMATION AS WELL. 
          I MEAN, COS ARE REALLY MEANT FOR EMERGENCIES WHEN AND OUTSIDE OF THE SELF-FUNDED THE AIRPORT FUND, WATER FUND, THOSE KIND OF THINGS FOR WHEN THINGS POP UP AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO GET DONE RIGHT AWAY OR ISSUES POP UP. 
          OR OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE OTHER USES FOR COS WHERE WE HAVE CO IF YOU LOOK BACK AT SOME OF OUR, COS IT'S COST OVERRUNS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A BIG PROJECT THAT WE JUST NEEDED TO GO GET EXTRA FUNDS FOR SOME OF OUR INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, THOSE CAUSES. 
          BUT YOU, YOU TRY TO THINK OF THOSE BUCKETS OF WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, BUT FOR A BIG PROJECT AND IF IT HAS THAT URGENCY BEHIND IT AND IT JUST MAKES FISCAL SENSE TO GO FORWARD, THAT'S WHY THAT TOOL IS THERE FROM THE, FROM THE STATE. 
          ARE, ARE THE FUNDS RAISED FROM THE CO FROM A, A BANK OR DO WE GET THAT FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE WE DO BONDS? WELL, WELL ALL OF THEM ESSENTIALLY COME FROM A BANK. 
          WE, WE BASICALLY, UM, DO A, A COMPETITIVE BIDDING PROCESS. 
          SO WE OPEN UP OUR BOND SALE TO THE PUBLIC AND, YOU KNOW, SOLICIT, UH, BIDS FROM, UH, BASICALLY BOND UNDERWRITERS, INVESTMENT BANKS, UH, TO, TO 
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GIVE US THE LOWEST TOTAL INTEREST COST. 
          AND WE DO THE SAME WITH THE COS. 
          THEY, THEY FOLLOW THE EXACT SAME PROCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          CHRIS, SO, UH, BACK TO PAGE 15, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY, IN 2024, WE HAD NET TOTAL DEBT SERVICE PAID BY TAXES NINE 9,000,450. 
          IF WE DO THE POLICE STATION, IF WE DO THE 14 MILLION FOR THE, UH, TOD, WE'RE TAKING THAT IN 2028 UP TO 17 MILLION 8 76, RIGHT? SO THE TAX RATE FOR THAT GOES FROM ROUGHLY 16 CENTS TO 26 CENTS. 
          IS THERE ANY METRIC THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT OR SOMEONE ELSE WOULD LOOK AT AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, ALMOST LIKE A FUNDED THAT THE EBITDA METRIC THAT WOULD SAY, HEY, THEY'RE TAKING ON TOO MUCH LEVERAGE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE AWAY THEIR AAA RATING. 
          DO WE, DO WE LOOK AT THAT? DOES SOMEONE ELSE LOOK AT THAT? THEY WOULD LOOK AT THIS, BUT THIS IS, OUR RATIO IS SO LOW COMPARED TO EVEN I THINK, OTHER AAA RATED. 
          AND I THINK I JUST GOT A REPORT FROM MOODY'S THAT HAD THE AVERAGE OF AAA AND COMPARED US TO OTHER AAS. 
          UM, BUT WE HAVE SOME OTHER LIABILITIES THAT ARE FAR LOWER THAN CITIES THAT MAY BE IN OTHER STATES, SUCH AS OUR PENSION OBLIGATIONS AND OUR, UM, OTHER POST-EMPLOYMENT OBLIGATIONS ARE ALL CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, LONG-TERM DEBTS AS WELL. 
          SO OVERALL OUR OBLIGATIONS ARE, ARE CONSIDERABLY LOWER THAN, THAN WHAT I WOULD SAY OUR PEER GROUP IS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          CARRY ON. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU STEVEN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE SOME POTENTIAL FUTURE PROJECTS. 
          UH, AND THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT AREN'T IN THE, AREN'T IN THE, UH, CURRENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, BUT JUST SOME THAT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE A GOOD IDEA TO START THINKING ABOUT. 
          UH, SO, UH, IN 2024, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE THE COMPLETION OF THE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK VISION PLAN. 
          SO THAT, THAT PLAN IS PROBABLY GONNA GENERATE SOME POTENTIAL FUTURE PROJECTS. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE CONTINUED IMPLEMENTATION OF THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN. 
          SO THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2021 PHASE, UH, ONE IMPLEMENTATION'S UNDERWAY BUT NOT FULLY FUNDED. 
          SO THAT WAS A, UH, A PRETTY BIG DOLLAR AMOUNT WITH, WITH THAT ENTIRE PLAN. 
          SO, UH, SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS, UH, COULD, COULD SHOW UP IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND ROAD IMPROVEMENT. 
          SO THERE'S A PAVEMENT CONDITION ASSESSMENT BEING DONE, SO THAT MAY GENERATE SOME POTENTIAL PROJECTS, UM, ON THE FUTURE, UH, FOR THE FUTURE. 
          UH, ATHLETIC CLUB FORUM PARK IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THE NTTA TOLLWAY PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, UM, UH, STUDY BEING DONE. 
          SO THE RESULTS FROM THAT MAY GENERATE SOME ADDITIONAL FUTURE PROJECTS. 
          SO, AND THEN THIS IS OUR EXISTING CURRENT DEBT SERVICE. 
          SO THIS IS ALL THE DEBT SERVICE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE BOOKS. 
          IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY OF THE, UH, NEW POTENTIAL PROJECTS, UH, OR NEW DEBT ISSUANCES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ISSUED, UH, SO FAR. 
          UH, SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, WE'RE RELATIVELY FLAT FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS. 
          WE HAVE A SLIGHT DROP OFF, UH, IN 2028, A LITTLE BIT MORE FALLING OFF IN 2029, UH, THAN WE'RE BASICALLY FLAT FOR A FEW YEARS. 
          AND THEN WE START TO SEE SOME MORE, SOME MORE DROP OFF. 
          SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE SEE THAT, THAT KIND OF FLATLINING LIKE THAT, GENERALLY WHEN WE'RE DOING NEW PROJECTS, ISSUING NEW DEBT, IT'S GONNA COME WITH, YOU KNOW, INCREASING THE TAX RATE, UM, UNLESS THE GROWTH IN PROPERTY VALUES EXCEEDS THAT INCREASE. 
          UM, SO IT REALLY GETS TO 2033 WHERE WE REALLY START TO SEE A BUNCH OF DEBT FALL OFF. 
          WE IDEALLY WANT TO GET IT TO WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE IN 2039 AND GOING FORWARD WHERE WE HAVE IT STAIR STEPPING DOWN EVERY YEAR. 
          'CAUSE THAT REALLY REPRESENTS ADDITIONAL CAPACITY WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR A TAX RATE INCREASE. 
          SO WE GENERALLY WANNA SEE THAT THROUGHOUT THE, THE MODEL. 
          UM, SO IF I MAKE IT TO 2039 , THIS THING WILL BE STAIR STEPPED. 
          SO I CAN ASSURE YOU, BUT THAT'S GENERALLY WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE, SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH ADDITIONAL PROJECTS WITHOUT, UM, SAYING, HEY, WE NEED TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE EACH TIME, THEN GETTING INTO OUR, UH, TOTAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FUNDING. 
          SO I THINK EVERY YEAR I, I'VE STOOD UP HERE WITH THIS PRESENTATION AND SAID IT'S A VERY AGGRESSIVE, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. 
          SO IT IS STILL A VERY AGGRESSIVE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, UM, INCLUDING THE ESTIMATES FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. 
          WE HAVE ABOUT $220 MILLION IN, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, UH, OVER THE PLAN. 
          UH, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE FUNDED THROUGH GENERAL OBLIGATION AND CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, UH, WHICH ARE FUNDED BY, UH, PROPERTY TAXES. 
          THEN WE DO HAVE THOSE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK LOANS ON THERE, 
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UM, WHICH WE, WE HOPE WILL BE GETTING THOSE. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER FUNDING RELATED TO, UH, CASH FUNDED, UH, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT AREAS. 
          UH, SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS, STREET SELF-FUNDED INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND. 
          THOSE ARE CASH FUNDED, UH, PROJECTS. 
          THEN WE GET INTO OUR UTILITY, UH, FUND. 
          WE HAVE, UH, UH, BONDS, UH, FUNDED BY THE UTILITY FUND. 
          AND THEN CASH RESERVES, SAME THING FOR THE STORMWATER FUND. 
          THEY HAVE, UH, THEIR OWN CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION PROGRAM AND THEN CASH FUNDING. 
          AND THEN THE AIRPORT FUND ALSO HAS CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION CASH FUNDS. 
          AND THEN THEY ALSO GETTA SUBSTANTIAL GRANT FUNDING. 
          UH, SO THAT THAT'S INCLUDED, UH, WITH THE AIRPORT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. 
          SO GOING INTO THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS. 
          NOW, A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS ARE ALREADY IN PROGRESS OR HAVE BEEN ON THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 
          UM, SO I'M NOT GONNA COVER THEM AS IN MUCH DEPTH AS THE NEW PROJECTS, BUT EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THIS PAGE IS A PROJECT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ON. 
          OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS ALREADY, UH, EITHER IN DESIGN OR, OR IN PROGRESS FOR CONSTRUCTION, UH, ON THIS PAGE. 
          A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED ON THIS, UH, PREVIOUS VERSION OF THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. 
          WHERE WE START TO SEE NEW PROJECTS ON THIS PLAN, UM, IS REALLY STARTED WITH THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PARKING GARAGE, UH, THAT PROJECT, UH, THAT'S LISTED THERE. 
          AND THEN GOING DOWN WITH THE, UH, NORTH TEXAS EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS FACILITY, UH, WE HAVE, UH, ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB, OUTDOOR POOLS AND RESTROOMS, UH, PER PERIMETER FENCE RENOVATION, UH, WEST GROVE AND QUORUM BICYCLE LANE, AND, AND AIRPORT VIEWING AREAS, UH, THE POLICE AND COURTS FACILITY, UH, RENOVATIONS TO THE, UH, LOBBY AT THE SERVICE CENTER. 
          AND THEN TRANSIT, TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH WE, WE DISCUSSED, UM, PREVIOUSLY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON, UH, ENTECH. 
          UH, YOU HAVE A 2 MILLION IN 25, 26, IS THAT SHOULD BE FURTHER OUT. 
          WELL, THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PURCHASING THE LAND, UH, FOR THAT, UH, PROJECT RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THEY'RE, UH, GONNA DESIGN THIS PROJECT, UH, OVER THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND THEN HOPEFULLY START CONSTRUCTION. 
          UM, DO YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT TIMELINE THAN THAT? I THINK, NO, I THINK THAT TIMELINE'S CORRECT ON WHEN WE WOULD DO CONSTRUCTION WOULD COMMENCE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I I THOUGHT IT WAS FURTHER OUT, LIKE 29. 
          WELL, 29 IS WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO EXECUTE A NEW OR BEGIN A NEW LEASE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK THAT THEIR PLAN IS, IS THAT THEY WANT TO BE IN THIS NEW FACILITY SOMETIME IN 2027, I THINK BY THE END OF 2027 IS WHEN THEY WANNA BE IN THE NEW FACILITY. 
          UM, AND THEN NOT, SO WE WOULD'VE THE DEBT SOON. 
          RIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS RIGHT NOW? OKAY. 
          AND THEN MOVING ON TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND. 
          AND THIS IS FUNDED BY A PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY TAXES THAT ARE SET ASIDE INTO THIS, UH, THIS FUND, WHICH IS, UH, DESIGNED TO FUND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, PRO CASH FUND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE OVER $500,000. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE THREE PROJECTS THAT HAVE, HAVE BEEN, UH, INCLUDED IN THIS, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND A DA IMPROVEMENTS. 
          THAT PROJECT SHOULD BE COMPLETED THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          IT WAS BUDGETED, I THINK, UH, BEGINNING BACK IN 2023, UH, REDDING TRAIL EXTENSION AND DOG PARK. 
          THAT PROJECT WAS BUDGETED IN 2024. 
          UH, THAT PROJECT, UH, HOPEFULLY WILL BE COMPLETED THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          AND THEN CONFERENCE CENTER RENOVATIONS IS ANTICIPATED TO START THIS FISCAL YEAR, UH, AND BE COMPLETED IN THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2025. 
          SO IN TOTAL, WE HAVE ABOUT, UH, JUST OVER $4 MILLION IN PROPOSED PROJECTS THERE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND. 
          UH, AND THEN, UH, ON THE STORMWATER, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM. 
          AND AGAIN, THE STORMWATER, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM IS FUNDED BY, UH, REVENUES GENERATED FROM THE STORMWATER FUND. 
          UH, SO WE HAVE THE RAW RAWHI RAWHIDE, UH, CREEK BASIN IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UH, THAT PROJECT IS, UH, COMPLETED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 2024. 
          UH, THEN THERE IS, UH, KELLER SPRINGS RECONSTRUCTION. 
          THERE'S A PORTION OF THAT PROJECT THAT'S BEING FUNDED BY, UH, STORMWATER FUNDS AND THEN LAY LOCKS POND, UH, AT 2.5 MILLION, UH, IS BEING FUNDED, UH, PARTIALLY BY STORMWATER FUNDS. 
          UH, SO OVERALL ABOUT 7,622,000, UH, FOR THE STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. 
          AND THEN ON THE UTILITY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. 
          AND I, I'M GONNA PREFACE THIS ONE THAT, UM, A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE OUT YEARS 2026 AND BEYOND WERE INCLUDED IN THE, UH, WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN, UH, FROM 
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I BELIEVE 20 20 17 OR 2018. 
          UM, THEY'RE CURRENTLY UPDATING THAT PLAN, UH, ALONG WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          SO AS, UM, THAT PLAN GETS COMPLETED, SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS IN THE OUT YEARS MAY FALL OFF, SOME NEW PROJECTS MAY REPLACE THOSE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE KEPT PUSHING THOSE OFF IN, INTO OTHER YEARS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE IF THOSE PROJECTS ACTUALLY NEED TO HAPPEN. 
          SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THE RESULTS OF THAT PLAN TO REEVALUATE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS. 
          UM, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS LAKE FOREST DRIVE, THAT PROJECT IS, UH, NEARING COMPLETION. 
          UH, WE HAVE TWO PUMP REPLACEMENTS, UH, AT AT CELESTIAL PUMP STATION. 
          UM, IN PROGRESS, UH, WE HAVE SURVEYOR, PUMP STATION ELECTRICAL UPGRADES, UM, WHICH IS BEING COMPLETED. 
          AND THEN C AND KWAY ELECTRICAL CONTROL PANEL UPGRADES, UH, THAT WERE ALL APPROVED IN PREVIOUS, UH, BUDGETS AND ARE CURRENTLY BEING COMPLETED. 
          UH, THEN THERE ARE THREE. 
          AND, AND AS YOU GET, UH, THE BUDGET, UH, PRESENTATIONS FOR PUBLIC WORKS, YOU'LL SEE, UH, A LOT OF DETAILS ABOUT, UH, THE NEXT THREE PROJECTS. 
          THERE'S, UM, A MI WATER ME WATER METER MODERNIZATION, AND THAT BASICALLY WILL REPLACE OUR, UM, OLD METERS WITH NEW SMART METERS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO READ WITH THE TOUCH OF A BUTTON AND WE CAN TELL IT TO, TO READ AT DIFFERENT INTERVALS THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD LIKE AND WE'LL HELP OUR CUSTOMERS WITH LEAK DETECTION AND USAGE AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          UM, UH, A BATHROOM ADDITION, CELESTIAL PUMP STATION, AND THEN REPLACING THE ADDISON CIRCLE TOWER DRIVEWAY AROUND, UH, THAT, UH, WATER TOWER OVER THERE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE OUR AIRPORT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. 
          UM, SO A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS INCLUDE GRANT FUNDING, UH, BUT THE BRAVO, UH, GOLF TAX AWAY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          THAT PROJECT IS, UH, GETTING CLOSE, UH, TO BEING COMPLETED. 
          IT MAY BE COMPLETED IN FISCAL YEAR 2025, BUT, UH, WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY GIVEN THEM OUR, OUR MONEY SO FAR. 
          SO IT'S UP TO, TO TECH STOCK TO COMPLETE THAT. 
          UH, THEN WE'VE GOT, UM, SOME OTHER PROJECTS RELATED TO ROOF REPLACEMENT, METAL HANGER ROOF REPLACEMENTS. 
          THAT PROJECT IS NEAR IN COMPLETION. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE FUEL STORAGE EXPANSION, WHICH YOU HEARD FROM JOEL AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, AND WE HAVE THAT PROGRAMMED, UH, WITHIN HERE. 
          AND AS HE MENTIONED THAT SCOPE, AS THEY, AS THEY GET FURTHER IN THE, UH, UH, PLANNING PROCESS AND DESIGN PROCESS OF THAT, THAT SCOPE MAY COME DOWN TO A A, A LOWER, LOWER AMOUNT. 
          UH, WITH, WITH THAT PROJECT, UH, THEY'RE CURRENTLY, UM, IN THE WORK ON JIMMY DOOLITTLE DRIVE RECONSTRUCTION. 
          I KNOW THEY'RE, UH, COMPLETING SOME, UH, UTILITY RELOCATION ON THAT, UH, EAST SIDE SERVICE ROAD, UH, RECONSTRUCTION. 
          UH, THAT AND JIMMY DOOLITTLE, WE HAD SOLD BONDS, UH, FOR IN THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR. 
          AND THEN EAST SIDE SERVICE ROAD ALSO HAS SOME FUNDING, UH, FROM THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW GRANT, UH, THE AIRPORT REGULATED GARBAGE UTILITY BUILDING THAT IS A ROLLOVER FROM FISCAL YEAR 2024. 
          THEY'RE NOT GONNA COMPLETE THAT THIS YEAR. 
          THEY'RE ROLLING THAT OVER TO FISCAL YEAR 25. 
          AND THEN SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE, UH, UH, BEING COMPLETED THIS YEAR. 
          UH, WEST PERIMETER FENCING IMPROVEMENTS, WILEY POST BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS, WILEY POST PARKING LOT RECONSTRUCTION, UH, ARE ALL BEING COMPLETED. 
          AND THEN ANOTHER PROJECT THAT, THAT JOEL MENTIONED DURING HIS BUDGET PRESENTATION WAS THE ROOF REPLACEMENT AT 45 33 GLEN CURTIS. 
          SO THAT TAKES US THROUGH THE ENTIRE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS BEFORE I GET INTO OUR 2024 BOND PROGRAM? OKAY. 
          SO, UH, WITH OUR 2024 BOND PROGRAM, WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION AMOUNT OF $10,700,000. 
          UH, SO, UH, TO FUND THE FOLLOWING PROJECTS, $3.4 MILLION, UH, FOR THAT INTECH TWO PROJECT. 
          AS I MENTIONED, THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, ACQUIRING THE LAND FOR THAT PROJECT. 
          I THINK THEIR CLOSING DATE IS GONNA BE IN AUGUST, UH, ON THE LAND IS, IS WHAT, UH, THEY'RE PLANNING, UM, 1.15 MILLION FOR REPLACEMENT OF A SPARTAN FIRE ENGINE. 
          UH, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HAD SPOKE WITH, UH, THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT, UH, A LOT OF THESE, UM, LARGE APPARATUS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          IT DOESN'T MAKE AS MUCH SENSE FOR US TO TRY TO CASH FUND THESE ANYMORE. 
          THE PRICES OF THESE HAVE GONE UP SO DRAMATICALLY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS THAT THIS FIRE ENGINE USED TO COST AS MUCH AS AN AMBULANCE COST 10 YEARS AGO. 
          UM, SO THESE ITEMS THAT ARE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS, THEY HAVE OVER A 10 YEAR USEFUL LIFE, IT REALLY MAKES SENSE FOR US TO, TO FINANCE THOSE. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE A 10 YEAR, UH, BOND ISSUANCE FOR THIS FIRE ENGINE. 
          UH, THEN WE ANTICIPATE, AGAIN THAT ADDISON GROVE, UH, INCENTIVE, THOSE FIRST TWO INCENTIVES BEING MET, UM, SOMETIME IN EARLY, UH, OR SOMETIME IN LATE 2024, EARLY 2025. 
          UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE ABOUT $3.3 MILLION, UH, SET ASIDE FOR THAT. 
          THIS WOULD FUND GET US 
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FUNDING THROUGH THAT SECOND INCENTIVE. 
          UH, AND THEN WE HAVE $5.3 MILLION PROPOSED FOR THE STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, UH, FOR THOSE PROJECTS SUPPORTED BY STORMWATER REVENUE. 
          THAT'S THE STORMWATER WORK RELATED TO KELLER SPRINGS ROAD RECONSTRUCTION, AND THEN THE LAY LOCKS POND, UH, PROJECT. 
          SO OUR TIMELINE ON THE, UH, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. 
          SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, UH, WITH THE PLAN OF ISSUANCE. 
          UH, WE'LL COME BACK, UH, AT JULY, JULY 23RD, UH, WITH THE RESOLUTION, UM, FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER A NOTICE OF INTENT FOR US TO PUBLISH A NOTIFICATION OF THAT CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION ISSUANCE. 
          UH, THEN WE WOULD, UH, POST THAT NOTICE, UM, IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS ON JULY 22ND, OR JULY 26TH, AND THEN AGAIN ON AUGUST 2ND. 
          AND THEN THE WEEK OF AUGUST 12TH, WE'LL HAVE, UH, RATINGS CALLS WITH OUR RATING AGENCIES. 
          UH, AUGUST 28TH, WE'LL ANTICIPATE RECEIVING THOSE RATINGS. 
          UH, SEPTEMBER 10TH, UH, THAT MORNING, WE'LL HOLD A COMPETITIVE SELL FOR THOSE BONDS, UH, THAT EVENING. 
          UH, AT SEPTEMBER 10TH, WE WILL, UH, PRESENT THE ORDINANCE, UM, TO THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF THOSE BONDS. 
          AND THEN, UH, IF EVERYTHING WENT TO PLAN, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE RECEIVING THOSE FUNDS, UH, OCTOBER 9TH. 
          WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BOND PROGRAM OR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. 
          QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. 
          UM, GOING BACK TO YOU, YOU, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE, THAT SPARTAN FIRE ENGINE? MM-HMM. 
           AND THE, AND THE CHANGE IN THAT POLICY. 
          SO WE STILL HAVE THE CAPITAL REPLACEMENT FUNDING WE DO AVAILABLE. 
          RIGHT? SO IT'S JUST BECAUSE THIS ONE GOES ABOVE THAT, UH, THE MILLION DOLLAR, THE, THE RECOMMENDATION IS BECAUSE I WAS GONNA HAVE TO BUMP UP THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS TO AN AMOUNT THAT COVER YEAH, IT WAS, WAS JUST A, A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO, TO STOMACH, UM, THAT FOR THESE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE OVER A MILLION AND THEY'RE OVER, WE'RE GONNA KEEP 'EM FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS, IT MAKES SENSE TO GO OUT AND BASICALLY GET A 3.5% LOAN ON THAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT. 
          SO WE'RE STILL DOING THE CAPITAL REPLACEMENT FOR EVERYTHING OF POLICE AND FIRE AND ALL THAT. 
          AND, AND, AND RIGHT NOW MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT ANYTHING THAT'S AN AMBULANCE OR, OR LOWER THAN AN AMBULANCE WOULD, WOULD STILL BE FUNDED THROUGH THAT. 
          BUT ANYTHING THAT IS BASICALLY, UH, THE FIRE ENGINE, A LADDER TRUCK, THE AIRPORT FIREFIGHTING VEHICLE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE A MILLION NOW IN SOME CASES, OVER $2 MILLION FOR A LADDER TRUCK AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE, WE FINANCE. 
          GREAT. 
          AND, UH, THE, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS REGARDING THE, UH, THE NOTICE OF INTENT TO ISSUE. 
          UH, OBVIOUSLY WE WE'RE, WE'RE REQUIRED TO PUT THAT INTO DALLAS MORNING NEWS, BUT WE'LL DO MUCH MORE, UH, EXPOSURE ON THAT TO, TO THE PUBLIC. 
          WE WILL. 
          SO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A, UM, WE'LL HAVE IT ON OUR WEBSITE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A, UH, A, UM, INVESTOR RELATIONS WEBSITE. 
          IT'S ADDISON BONDS.COM. 
          UH, WE'LL HAVE OUR NOTICE OF INTENT, UM, ON THAT WEBSITE, UM, FOR ANYBODY YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WANTS TO LOOK AT THAT WEBSITE. 
          IT'S GOT A LOT OF IS, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, OUR ISSUANCE. 
          WE'LL HAVE OUR RATINGS REPORTS, ANYTHING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT AFFECTS OUR, OUR, UH, RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR INVESTORS. 
          UH, SO WE'LL BE ON THAT WEBSITE AS WELL, BUT IT'LL ALSO BE ON OUR MAIN WEBSITE. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU, STEVEN. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY, SO THAT WAS, UH, FOR OUR ITEM, UM, FOUR D ON OUR WORK SESSION. 
          AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, THIS, THAT ITEM WAS GOING TO BE MOVED TO OUR JULY MEETING, THE, THE ONE MEETING THAT WE HAVE IN JULY. 
          AND SO WE'LL NOW MOVE TO THE VERY 
          [7. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.]
END OF THE AGENDA OF THE REGULAR MEETING, WHICH IS, UM, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO, UM, EXPRESS THANKS, CONDOLENCES. 
          SHARE INFORMATION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE ANYBODY TO HEAR. 
          AND I SEE MARLON'S LIGHT IS ON MARLON. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND OUR, UH, CFO STEVEN GLICKMAN. 
          UM, GREAT, GREAT WORK TONIGHT, BUT GREAT WORK ALL THE TIME AND, UM, GIVES, GIVES ME A HUGE LEVEL OF COMFORT. 
          UM, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO AND, AND, AND, UH, IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT WITH YOUR TEAM, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. 
          UM, ALSO, UM, SINCE I'VE LIVED HERE IN 1998, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE HAD A, A SAND VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENT BEFORE, BUT I DO KNOW WE HAD A GREAT ONE ON SATURDAY. 
          SO, UM, I WANNA THANK, UH, LUIS AND DUSTIN, UH, AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB FOR, FOR PUTTING ON WHAT LOOKED LIKE A FANTASTIC EVENT. 
          FUN TO, FUN TO WATCH EVERYBODY HAVING A GREAT TIME DOING IT. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          DID YOU PARTICIPATE? I DID NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS ON THE PICKLEBALL COURSE. 
          MAYOR , WHAT A SURPRISE. 
          NANCY. 
          YES. 
          I JUST WANTED TO, UM, SAY CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN TO, UH, VALENCIA. 
          YES, GOOD 
          [03:45:01]
JOB. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHERS? WELL, YOU KNOW, I HAVE SOMETHING, UM, SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE THINGS ACTUALLY LAST WEEK, UH, ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW, MILLIONAIRE, THE FBO AT ADDISON AIRPORT IS CELEBRATING 40 YEARS AT ADDISON AIRPORT, AND THEY WERE THE PIONEER IN THE FBO WORLD. 
          AND, UH, SO THEY HAD A NICE LUNCHEON LAST WEEK FOR ALL THEIR EMPLOYEES AND THEY INVITED US TO COME TO THAT. 
          AND THEY HAD AN EVENING EVENT THE WEEK PRIOR. 
          UH, SO IT'S A REALLY, IT'S A BIG DEAL 40 YEARS AT ADDISON AIRPORT. 
          AND THEY'RE REALLY, THEY, I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN THE ANCHOR OF THE NORTH END OF THE AIRPORT ALL THIS TIME AND, AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE SO PROUD OF THE AIRPORT, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY LIKE MILLIONAIRE THAT THEY'RE THERE AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE THROUGHOUT, AND IF YOU LOOK AT 'EM, THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE A 40-YEAR-OLD FBO. 
          THEIR BUILDINGS ARE PRISTINE. 
          YOU COULD EAT OFF THE FLOORS, THEY'VE GOT FRESH PAINT JOBS. 
          I MEAN, I'M REALLY PROUD OF THEM. 
          AND THEY CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO, TO GROW THEIR OPERATION AT THE AIRPORT AND JUST TO PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICE TO, UH, TO THE FOLKS THAT COME HERE AND, UH, TO THAT BRING THEIR AIRPLANES THROUGH HERE. 
          SO REALLY PROUD OF MILLIONAIRE AND PROUD OF OUR, UH, ASSOCIATION WITH THEM AND, AND, UH, GLAD THAT, UH, WE HAD SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO GO TO THEIR LUNCHEON LAST WEEK. 
          UH, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION WAS, UH, LAST, LAST SATURDAY MORNING, UH, AT THE, UH, FIRE STATION ONE, THEY HAD A, UM, A PROMOTION AND SWEARING IN CEREMONY. 
          AND, UH, THAT IS ONE OF THE THING, AND THEY WERE NICE TO INVITE US TO THAT. 
          AND, AND I LOVE GOING TO THOSE THINGS WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL BEFORE AND NOW THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS TO DO. 
          UM, THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT, WHAT GOES ON AT THE FIRE SERVICE WITH THE, WITH THE FAMILY FEEL THAT THEY HAVE, UH, AND SEEING THE FAMILIES PARTICIPATE IN THIS AND SEEING THE KIDS PIN THE BADGES OR WHATEVER THE, THE, THE WHATEVER THEY'RE PUTTING ON THEIR, ON THEIR, UM, OR HANDING 'EM A HELMET. 
          IT IS JUST, IT'S, IT REALLY, IT TOUCHES YOUR HEART, YOU KNOW, MEAN. 
          IT'S JUST, THEY'RE A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE AND I'M JUST GRATEFUL FOR THAT, THAT THEY, UH, ALLOW US TO, UH, EXPERIENCE THAT. 
          SO, UH, THANKS TO ALL THEM FOR THAT. 
          AND UM, AND I KNOW WE HAD SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE THERE FOR THAT EVENT AS WELL, SO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY PARTICIPATING WHEN YOU'RE ABLE. 
          UH, BUT THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. 
          ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY ELSE WITH THAT? IT IS STRAIGHT UP NINE O'CLOCK AND WE WILL ADJOURN FOR THE NIGHT. 
          HAVE A GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. 
          THANK YOU.
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