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          HELLO, EVERYONE. 
          OKAY? YEAH. 
          HI EVERYBODY. 
          HELLO. 
          HI. 
          I AM YOUR VICE CHAIR. 
          I FINALLY GET TO DO SOMETHING. 
          YAY. 
          UM, SUE IS CAUGHT IN TRAFFIC. 
          SHE'LL BE HERE IN JUST A MOMENT, BUT SINCE WE HAVE A QUORUM FOR THE CPA MEETING ON MAY 30TH, 2024, I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. 
          AND IF WE COULD GO AHEAD AND STAND UP AND, WELL, THERE'S NO, WE DON'T HAVE A FLAG. 
          WE CAN STILL SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THOUGH. 
          WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE FLAG LOOKS LIKE. 
          SO I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT IMAGINARY FLAG IS WAVING IN THE BREEZE. 
          SO, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES OF MAY NINTH'S 2024 MEETING? AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS OR CORRECTIONS? NOT HEARING ANY CORRECTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS? I ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MAY 9TH, 2024. 
          AL AND LIZ, THANK YOU, AND I'LL TURN THIS OVER NOW TO KEVIN. 
          THAT WAS EASY. 
          ALL RIGHT, WE GOOD? CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY BACK THERE? COOL. 
          WELL, GOOD EVENING GUYS. 
          GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. 
          I'VE BEEN TOLD THERE'S A MAVS GAME TONIGHT. 
          I KNEW THERE WAS A MAV GAME, MAVS GAME TONIGHT, BUT I WAS ADVISED TO TRY TO WRAP US UP EARLY IF WE, UH, IF WE CAN. 
          I DON'T THINK THIS WILL TAKE THE, THE FULL TIME. 
          I FEEL LIKE WE'RE, WE HAVE SO MANY OF THESE MEETINGS. 
          THERE'S EITHER THE, IT'S BEEN EITHER THE RANGERS OR THE STARS OR THE MAVS OR SOMEBODY. 
          SO, UM, GOOD TIME TO LIVE IN DALLAS. 
          WE'LL, UH, WE'LL SEE HOW THE COWBOYS DO  TO THIS YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT MOBILITY, UM, TONIGHT. 
          LEMME SEE IF I CAN, THERE WE GO. 
          UM, SO WE ARE STILL IN PHASE FOUR. 
          WE'RE, UM, CHIPPING AWAY, PUTTING STRATEGIES TOGETHER FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN, THE LAND USE, THE MOBILITY, THE HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT A COMMUNITY MEETING COMING UP IN JUNE, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA KIND OF PRESENT AN UPDATE AND ALSO GET SOME ADDITIONAL INPUT ON THE PLACE TYPES AS WELL AS SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY STRATEGIES. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE COMMUNITY DO AN EXERCISE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU ALL ARE GONNA DO TONIGHT. 
          UM, AND THEN IN JULY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE START SHIFTING INTO MORE SPECIFIC FOCUS GROUP CONVERSATIONS ON SPECIFIC TOPICS. 
          SO THERE WILL MOST LIKELY BE ONE WITH SOME OF YOU ALL FROM THE BUSINESS AND DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, ONE WITH SOME OF THE MOBILITY, UH, TRANSPORTATION FOLKS LIKE TXDOT OR POTENTIALLY THE AIRPORT, UM, TO GET INTO MORE SPECIFIC, UM, DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE STRATEGIES, MAYBE SOME OF THE BARRIERS TO ACHIEVING THEM, AND ALSO SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES RELATED TO FUNDING OR PARTNERSHIPS OR, OR RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE OUT THERE. 
          SO WE ARE STILL, UH, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER SLOWED DOWN ON THIS ONE. 
          WE'VE BEEN BLOWING AND GOING FROM THE, FROM THE GET GO. 
          UM, SO THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT, HOW MANY OF YOU ALREADY WATCHED THAT 16 MINUTE JEFF SPECK VIDEO THAT JADE SENT THE LINK OUT TO COUPLE FOLKS? OKAY. 
          SO WE HAD A FEELING, UM, THAT, UH, THAT SOME OF YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH IT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA SHOW IT TONIGHT TO KICK US OFF. 
          UM, IF YOU GOT THE BOOK, THE WALKABLE CITY OR WALKABLE CITY RULES, UM, THE AUTHOR, JEFF SPECK, UM, HE'S A REALLY PROMINENT GUY IN THIS FIELD. 
          URBAN DESIGNER, GOT MORE INTO WALKABILITY PROBABLY ABOUT, GOSH, OVER 15 YEARS AGO. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S ALL HE DOES NOW, IS TALK AND WORK WITH CITIES ALL OVER THE WORLD ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF WALKABLE CITIES AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A WALKABLE CITY IN THE BROADER CONTEXT. 
          IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTIAL OR THE RECREATIONAL WALK. 
          UM, HE'S GOT A NUMBER OF TED TALKS OUT THERE. 
          IF YOU'RE NOT A BOOK READER, UM, THERE IS ONE THAT KIND OF PRECEDES THIS, THAT TALKS ABOUT THE BROADER KIND OF CONCEPT OF, OF IMPORTANCE OF WALKABLE CITIES. 
          UM, BUT IN THIS ONE, HE, HE FOCUSES IN ON THE FOUR DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF A WALK. 
          SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE PICKED. 
          IT'S MORE APPLICABLE TO THIS EXERCISE WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU TO DO. 
          AND IT'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT SHORTER. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE PICKED THAT ONE. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA WATCH THAT TOGETHER FIRST, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A REAL BRIEF CHAT ABOUT WHY WALKABILITY MATTERS TO ADDISON, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THE SURVEYS AND DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT AN ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH. 
          YOU GUYS CAN SEE THE MAP THERE IN FRONT OF YOU, AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT A BIT MORE WHEN WE, UM, WHEN WE GET TO IT. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT. 
          CAN YOU PLAY IT 
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OR DO I PLAY IT FROM HERE? OH, HERE WE GO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE WALKABLE CITY. 
          UM, WHAT IS THE WALKABLE CITY? WELL, FOR WANT OF A BETTER DEFINITION, IT'S A CITY IN WHICH THE CAR IS, UH, A OPTIONAL INSTRUMENT OF FREEDOM RATHER THAN A PROSTHETIC DEVICE. 
          AND I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHY WE NEED THE WALKABLE CITY, AND I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO DO THE WALKABLE CITY. 
          MOST OF THE TALKS I GIVE THESE DAYS ARE ABOUT WHY WE NEED IT. 
          UM, BUT YOU GUYS ARE SMART . 
          AND ALSO I GAVE THAT TALK EXACTLY A MONTH AGO, AND YOU CAN SEE IT@TED.COM. 
          SO TODAY I WANNA TALK ABOUT HOW TO DO IT. 
          IN A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT THIS, I'VE COME UP WITH WHAT I CALL THE GENERAL THEORY OF WALKABILITY, A BIT OF A PRETENTIOUS TERM. 
          IT'S A LITTLE TONGUE IN CHEEK, BUT IT'S SOMETHING I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME. 
          AND, UM, I LIKE TO SHARE WHAT I THINK I'VE FIGURED OUT IN THE AMERICAN CITY, THE TYPICAL AMERICAN CITY AND THE TYPICAL AMERICAN CITY IS NOT WASHINGTON DC OR NEW YORK OR SAN FRANCISCO. 
          IT'S GRAND RAPIDS OR CEDAR RAPIDS OR MEMPHIS. 
          BUT IN THE TYPICAL AMERICAN CITY IN WHICH MOST PEOPLE OWN CARS, AND THE TEMPTATION IS TO DRIVE THEM ALL THE TIME, IF YOU'RE GONNA GET THEM TO WALK, THEN YOU HAVE TO OFFER A WALK THAT'S AS GOOD AS A DRIVE OR BETTER. 
          WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT MEANS THAT YOU NEED TO OFFER FOUR THINGS SIMULTANEOUSLY. 
          THERE NEEDS TO BE A PROPER REASON TO WALK. 
          THE WALK HAS TO BE SAFE AND FEEL SAFE. 
          THE WALK HAS TO BE COMFORTABLE, AND THE WALK HAS TO BE INTERESTING. 
          YOU NEED TO DO ALL FOUR OF THESE THINGS SIMULTANEOUSLY. 
          AND THAT IS THE STRUCTURE OF MY TALK TODAY, IS TO TAKE YOU THROUGH EACH OF THOSE. 
          THE REASON TO WALK IS A STORY I LEARNED FROM MY MENTORS, ANDRE SWANY AND ELIZABETH PLA BERG, THE FOUNDERS OF THE NEW URBANISM MOVEMENT. 
          AND I'M, I SHOULD SAY HALF THE SLIDES AND HALF OF MY TALK TODAY, I LEARNED FROM THEM. 
          UH, IT'S THE STORY OF PLANNING, THE STORY OF THE FORMATION OF THE PLANNING PROFESSION WHEN, UH, IN THE, IN THE 19TH CENTURY, PEOPLE WERE, UM, CHOKING FROM THE SOOT OF THE DARK SATANIC MILLS. 
          AND THE PLANTERS SAID, HEY, LET'S MOVE THE HOUSING AWAY FROM THE MILLS. 
          AND LIFESPANS INCREASED IMMEDIATELY DRAMATICALLY. 
          AND WE LIKE TO SAY THE PLANNERS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO REPEAT THAT EXPERIENCE EVER SINCE. 
          SO THERE'S THE ONSET OF WHAT WE CALL EUCLIDEAN ZONING, THE SEPARATION OF THE LANDSCAPE INTO LARGE AREAS OF SINGLE USE. 
          AND TYPICALLY, WHEN I ARRIVE IN A CITY TO DO A PLAN, UH, A PLAN LIKE THIS ALREADY AWAITS ME ON THE PROPERTY THAT I'M LOOKING AT. 
          AND ALL A PLAN LIKE THIS GUARANTEES IS THAT YOU WILL NOT HAVE A WALKABLE CITY BECAUSE NOTHING IS LOCATED NEAR ANYTHING ELSE. 
          THE ALTERNATIVE, OF COURSE, IS OUR MOST WALKABLE CITY. 
          AND I LIKE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A ROTHKO, AND THIS IS A SYRAH. 
          IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT WAY. 
          HE WAS THE POINT LIST, RIGHT? IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY OF MAKING PLACES. 
          AND EVEN THIS MAP OF MANHATTAN IS A BIT MISLEADING BECAUSE THE RED COLOR IS USES THAT ARE MIXED VERTICALLY. 
          SO THIS IS THE BIG STORY OF THE NEW URBANISTS, IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE ONLY TWO WAYS, TWO WAYS THAT HAVE BEEN TESTED BY THE THOUSANDS TO BUILD COMMUNITIES IN THE WORLD AND THROUGHOUT HISTORY. 
          ONE IS THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          YOU SEE HERE, SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS OF NEWBURYPORT, MASSACHUSETTS, UM, WHICH IS DEFINED AS BEING COMPACT AND BEING DIVERSE. 
          PLACES TO LIVE, WORK, SHOP, RECREATE, GET EDUCATED ALL WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. 
          UM, AND IT'S DEFINED AS BEING WALKABLE. 
          THERE ARE LOTS OF SMALL STREETS, EACH ONE IS COMFORTABLE TO WALK ON. 
          AND WE CONTRAST THAT TO THE OTHER WAY, UH, AN INVENTION THAT HAPPENED AFTER THE SECOND WORLD WAR, SUBURBAN SPRAWL, CLEARLY NOT COMPACT, UH, CLEARLY NOT DIVERSE, AND IT'S NOT WALKABLE BECAUSE SO FEW OF THE STREETS CONNECT THAT THOSE STREETS THAT DO CONNECT BECOME OVERBURDENED AND YOU WOULDN'T LET YOUR KID OUT ON THEM. 
          AND I WANNA THANK, UH, ALEX MCCLAIN, THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHER FOR MANY OF THESE BEAUTIFUL PICTURES THAT I'M SHOWING YOU TODAY. 
          SO IT'S FUN TO BREAK SPRAWL DOWN INTO ITS CONSTITUENTS PARTS. 
          IT'S SO EASY TO UNDERSTAND THE PLACES WHERE YOU ONLY LIVE, THE PLACES WHERE YOU ONLY WORK, THE PLACES WHERE YOU ONLY SHOP. 
          AND OUR SUPERSIZED PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS, SCHOOLS GET BIGGER AND BIGGER AND THEREFORE FURTHER AND FURTHER FROM EACH OTHER. 
          AND THE RATIO OF THE SIZE OF THE PARKING LOT OF THIS SCHOOL TO THE SIZE OF THE SCHOOL TELLS YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS SCHOOL, WHICH IS THAT NO CHILD HAS EVER WALKED TO THE SCHOOL. 
          NO CHILD WILL EVER WALK TO THIS SCHOOL. 
          THE, THE SENIORS AND JUNIORS ARE DRIVING THE FRESHMEN AND THE SOPHOMORES, AND OF COURSE WE HAVE THE CRASH STATISTICS TO PROVE IT. 
          AND THEN THE SUPERSIZING OF OUR OTHER CIVIC INSTITUTIONS LIKE PLAYING FIELDS. 
          AND IT'S WONDERFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, WESTIN IN, UH, FORT LAU IN THE FORT LAUDERDALE AREA HAS EIGHT SOCCER FIELDS AND EIGHT BASEBALL DIAMONDS, AND, YOU KNOW, 20 
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TENNIS COURTS. 
          BUT LOOK AT THE ROAD THAT TAKES YOU TO THAT LOCATION, AND WOULD YOU LET YOUR CHILD BIKE ON IT? AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THE SOCCER MOM. 
          NOW, WHEN I WAS YOUNG, I HAD ONE SOCCER FIELD AND ONE BASEBALL DIAMOND, AND ONE TENNIS COURT, BUT I COULD WALK TO IT BECAUSE IT WAS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND THEN THE FINAL PART OF SPRAWL THAT EVERYONE FORGOT TO COUNT, WHICH IS IF YOU'RE GONNA SEPARATE EVERYTHING FROM EVERYTHING ELSE AND RECONNECT, AND ONLY WITH AUTOMOTIVE INFRASTRUCTURE, THEN THIS IS WHAT YOUR LANDSCAPE BEGINS TO, TO LOOK LIKE. 
          SO THE MAIN MESSAGE HERE IS THAT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A WALKABLE CITY, YOU CAN'T START WITH THE SPRAWL MODEL. 
          YOU NEED THE BONES OF AN URBAN MODEL. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE OUTCOME OF THAT FORM OF DESIGN, UH, AS IS THIS, UH, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF AMERICANS WANT, BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT'S A TWO PART AMERICAN DREAM. 
          IF YOU'RE DREAMING FOR THIS, THEN YOU'RE ALSO GONNA BE DREAMING OF THIS OFTEN TO ABSURD EXTREMES WHEN WE BUILD OUR LANDSCAPE TO ACCOMMODATE CARS FIRST AND THEN THE EXPERIENCE OF BEING IN THESE PLACES. 
          THIS IS NOT PHOTOSHOP. 
          WALTER KULASH TOOK THIS SLIDE. 
          IT'S A, IT'S IN PANAMA CITY. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS A REAL PLACE. 
          AND BEING A DRIVER CAN BE A BIT OF A NUISANCE. 
          AND BEING A PEDESTRIAN CAN BE A BIT OF A NUISANCE IN THESE PLACES. 
          UH, THIS IS A SLIDE THAT EPIDEMIOLOGISTS HAVE BEEN SHOWING FOR SOME TIME NOW. 
          AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A SOCIETY WHERE YOU DRIVE TO THE PARKING LOT TO TAKE THE ESCALATOR TO THE TREADMILL SHOWS THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG, BUT WE KNOW HOW TO DO IT BETTER. 
          SO HERE, THE TWO MODELS CONTRASTED, AND I SHOW THIS SLIDE, WHICH HAS BEEN A FORMATIVE DOCUMENT OF THE NEW URBANISM NOW FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS, TO SHOW THAT THAT SPRAWL AND THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD CONTAIN THE SAME THINGS. 
          IT'S JUST HOW BIG ARE THEY AND HOW CLOSE ARE THEY TO EACH OTHER? AND HOW ARE THEY INTERSPERSED TOGETHER? AND DO YOU HAVE A STREET NETWORK RATHER THAN A CUL-DE-SAC, UH, COLLECTOR SYSTEM OF STREETS? SO WHEN WE LOOK AT A DOWNTOWN AREA, AT A PLACE THAT HAS A HOPE OF BEING WALKABLE, AND MOSTLY THAT'S OUR DOWNTOWNS IN AMERICA'S CITIES AND NEIGHBOR AND TOWNS AND VILLAGES, WE LOOK AT THEM AND WE SAY, WE WANT THE PROPER BALANCE OF USES. 
          SO WHAT IS MISSING OR UNDERREPRESENTED? AND AGAIN, IN THE TYPICAL AMERICAN CITIES IN WHICH MOST AMERICANS LIVE, IT IS HOUSING THAT IS LACKING. 
          THE JOBS TO HOUSING BALANCE IS OFF. 
          AND YOU FIND THAT WHEN YOU BRING HOUSING BACK, THESE OTHER THINGS START TO COME BACK TO. 
          AND HOUSING IS USUALLY FIRST AMONG THOSE THINGS. 
          AND OF COURSE, FINALLY, THE THING THAT SHOWS UP LAST AND EVENTUALLY IS THE SCHOOLS. 
          BECAUSE, UH, THE PEOPLE HAVE TO MOVE IN THE YOUNG, UM, YOU KNOW, PIONEERS HAVE TO MOVE IN, GET OLDER, HAVE KIDS AND FIGHT, AND THEN THE SCHOOLS GET PRETTY GOOD EVENTUALLY. 
          THE OTHER PART OF THIS, OF THIS PART, THE USE, THE USEFUL CITY PART IS TRANSIT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE A PERFECTLY WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT IT, BUT PERFECTLY WALKABLE. 
          CITIES REQUIRE TRANSIT, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE WHOLE CITY AS A PEDESTRIAN, THEN YOU GET A CAR. 
          AND IF YOU GET A CAR, THE CITY BEGINS TO RESHAPE ITSELF AROUND YOUR NEEDS, AND THE STREETS GET WIDER AND THE PARKING LOTS GET BIGGER, AND YOU NO LONGER HAVE A WALKABLE CITY. 
          SO TRANSIT IS ESSENTIAL, BUT EVERY TRANSIT EXPERIENCE, EVERY TRANSIT TRIP BEGINS OR ENDS AS A WALK. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TO REMEMBER TO BUILD WALKABILITY AROUND OUR TRANSIT STATIONS. 
          NEXT CATEGORY, THE BIGGEST ONE IS THE SAFE WALK. 
          IT'S WHAT MOST WALKABILITY EXPERTS TALK ABOUT. 
          IT IS ESSENTIAL, BUT, UH, ALONE, NOT ENOUGH TO GET PEOPLE TO WALK. 
          AND THERE ARE SO MANY MOVING PARTS THAT ADD UP TO A WALKABLE CITY. 
          THE FIRST IS BLOCK SIZE. 
          THIS IS PORTLAND, OREGON, FAMOUSLY, 200 FOOT BLOCKS FAMOUSLY WALKABLE. 
          THIS IS SALT LAKE CITY, FAMOUSLY 600 FOOT BLOCKS FAMOUSLY UN WALKABLE. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO, IT'S ALMOST LIKE TWO DIFFERENT PLANETS. 
          BUT THESE PLACES WERE BOTH BUILT BY HUMANS. 
          AND IN, IN FACT, THE, THE STORY IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A 200 FOOT BLOCK CITY, YOU CAN HAVE A TWO-LANE CITY, OR A TWO TO FOUR LANE CITY, AND A 600 FOOT BLOCK CITY IS A SIX LANE CITY. 
          AND THAT'S A PROBLEM. 
          THESE ARE THE CRASH STATISTICS. 
          WHEN YOU DOUBLE THE BLOCK SIZE, THIS WAS A STUDY OF 24 CALIFORNIA CITIES. 
          WHEN YOU DOUBLED THE BLOCK SIZE, YOU QUADRUPLE, ALMOST QUADRUPLE THE NUMBER OF FATAL ACCIDENTS ON NON-HIGH STREETS. 
          SO HOW MANY LANES DO WE HAVE? THIS IS WHERE I, I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHAT I TELL EVERY AUDIENCE I MEET, WHICH IS TO REMIND YOU ABOUT INDUCED DEMAND. 
          AND INDUCED DEMAND APPLIES BOTH TO HIGHWAYS AND TO CITY STREETS. 
          AND WHAT INDUCED DEMAND TELLS US IS THAT WHEN WE WIDEN THE STREETS TO ACCEPT THE CONGESTION THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING, OR THE ADDITIONAL TRIPS THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING IN CONGESTED SYSTEMS, IT IS PRINCIPALLY THAT CONGESTION THAT IS CONSTRAINING DEMAND. 
          AND SO THAT THE WIDENING COMES, AND THERE ARE ALL THESE LATENT TRIPS THAT ARE READY TO HAPPEN. 
          PEOPLE MOVE FURTHER FROM WORK, AND THEY MAKE OTHER CHOICES ABOUT WHEN THEY COMMUTE. 
          AND THOSE LANES FILL UP VERY QUICKLY WITH TRAFFIC. 
          SO WE WIDEN THE STREET AGAIN, AND THEY FILL UP AGAIN. 
          AND WE'VE LEARNED THAT IN THE CONGESTED SYSTEMS, WE CANNOT SATISFY THE AUTOMOBILE. 
          THIS IS FROM NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE. 
          HARDLY AN ESOTERIC PUBLICATION. 
          TODAY'S ENGINEERS ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BUILDING NEW ROADS USUALLY MAKES TRAFFIC WORSE. 
          AND MY RESPONSE TO READING THIS WAS, MAY I PLEASE MEET SOME OF THESE ENGINEERS? BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT THE ONES THAT I TYPICALLY, THERE ARE GREAT EXCEPTIONS THAT I'M WORKING WITH NOW, BUT THESE ARE NOT THE ENGINEERS THAT ONE TYPICALLY MEETS WORKING IN A CITY WHERE THEY SAY, 
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OH, THAT ROAD IS TOO CROWDED. 
          WE NEED TO ADD A LANE. 
          SO YOU ADD A LANE, AND THE TRAFFIC COMES AND THEY SAY, SEE, I TOLD YOU WE NEEDED THAT LANE. 
          SO THIS APPLIES BOTH TO HIGHWAYS AND TO CITY STREETS IF THEY'RE CONGESTED. 
          BUT THE AMAZING THING ABOUT MOST AMERICAN CITIES THAT I WORK IN, THE MORE TYPICAL CITIES, IS THEY HAVE A LOT OF STREETS THAT ARE ACTUALLY OVERSIZED FOR THE CONGESTION THEY'RE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING. 
          THIS WAS THE CASE IN OKLAHOMA CITY WHEN THE MAYOR CAME RUNNING TO ME, UH, VERY UPSET BECAUSE THEY WERE NAMED IN PREVENTION MAGAZINE, THE WORST CITY FOR PEDESTRIANS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. 
          NOW, THAT CAN'T POSSIBLY BE TRUE, BUT IT CERTAINLY IS ENOUGH TO MAKE A MAYOR, UH, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. 
          AND WE DID A WALKABILITY STUDY, AND WHAT WE FOUND LOOKING AT THE CAR COUNTS ON THE STREET, THESE ARE 3000, 4,000, 7,000 CAR COUNTS. 
          AND WE KNOW THAT TWO LANES CAN HANDLE 10,000 CARS PER DAY. 
          SO LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, RIGHT? THEY'RE ALL NEAR OR UNDER 10,000 CARS. 
          AND THESE WERE THE, THESE WERE THE STREETS THAT WERE DESIGNATED IN THE NEW DOWNTOWN PLAN TO BE FOUR LANES TO SIX LANES WIDE. 
          SO YOU HAD A FUNDAMENTAL DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE NUMBER OF LANES AND THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT WANTED TO USE THEM. 
          SO IT WAS MY JOB TO REDESIGN EVERY STREET IN THE DOWNTOWN FROM CURB FACE TO CURB FACE. 
          AND WE DID IT FOR 50 BLOCKS OF STREETS, AND WE'RE REBUILDING IT NOW. 
          SO A TYPICAL, YOU KNOW, OVERSIZED STREET TO, TO NOWHERE, UH, IS BEING NARROWED AND NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 
          AND THE PROJECT IS HALF DONE. 
          THE TYPICAL STREET LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU FIND ROOM FOR MEDIANS, YOU FIND ROOM FOR BIKE LANES. 
          WE'VE DOUBLED THE AMOUNT OF ON-STREET PARKING. 
          WE'VE ADDED A FULL BIKE NETWORK WHERE ONE DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE. 
          BUT NOT EVERYONE HAS THE MONEY THAT OKLAHOMA CITY HAS 'CAUSE THEY HAVE A EXTRACTION ECONOMY THAT'S DOING QUITE WELL. 
          THE TYPICAL CITY IS MORE LIKE CEDAR RAPIDS, WHERE ALSO THEY HAVE A ALL FOUR LANE SYSTEM, HALF ONE WAY SYSTEM. 
          AND IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE. 
          BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE, WHAT WE'RE DOING, IT'S IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW, IT'S IN ENGINEERING RIGHT NOW, IS TURNING A ALL FOUR LANE SYSTEM, HALF ONE WAY INTO A ALL TWO LANE SYSTEM. 
          ALL TWO WAY. 
          AND IN SO DOING, WE'RE ADDING 70% MORE ON STREET PARKING, WHICH THE MERCHANTS LOVE, AND IT PROTECTS THE SIDEWALK THAT PARKING MAKES THE SIDEWALK SAFE, AND WE ARE ADDING A MUCH MORE ROBUST BICYCLE NETWORK. 
          THEN THE, THE LANES THEMSELVES, HOW WIDE ARE THEY? THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          THE STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED SUCH THAT, AS ANDRES SWANEE SAYS, THE TYPICAL ROAD TO A SUBDIVISION IN AMERICA ALLOWS YOU TO SEE THE CURVATURE OF THE EARTH. 
          , THIS IS A SUBDIVISION OUTSIDE OF WASHINGTON FROM THE 1960S, LOOKED VERY CAREFULLY AT THE WIDTH OF THE STREETS. 
          THIS IS A SUBDIVISION FROM THE 1980S, 1960S, 1980S. 
          THE STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED TO SUCH A DEGREE, THAT MILD NEIGHBORHOOD OF SOUTH BEACH, WHEN IT WAS TIME TO FIX THE STREET THAT WASN'T DRAINING PROPERLY, THEY HAD TO WIDEN IT AND TAKE AWAY HALF OUR SIDEWALK BECAUSE THE STANDARDS WERE WIDER, RIGHT? PEOPLE GO FASTER ON WIDER STREETS. 
          PEOPLE KNOW THIS, THE ENGINEERS DENY IT, BUT THE CITIZENS KNOW IT. 
          SO THAT IN BIRMINGHAM, MICHIGAN, THEY FIGHT FOR, FOR NARROWER STREETS. 
          UH, PORTLAND, OREGON, FAMOUSLY WALKABLE, INSTITUTED ITS SKINNY STREETS PROGRAM IN ITS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE KNOW THAT SKINNY STREETS ARE SAFER. 
          THE DEVELOPER, VINCE GRAHAM, UH, IN HIS PROJECT ION, WHICH WE WORKED ON IN SOUTH CAROLINA, HE GOES TO CONFERENCES AND HE SHOWS HIS AMAZING 22 FOOT ROADS. 
          THESE ARE TWO-WAY ROADS, VERY NARROW RIGHTS OF WAY. 
          AND HE SHOWS THIS WELL-KNOWN PHILOSOPHER WHO SAID, BROAD IS THE ROAD THAT LEADS TO DESTRUCTION. 
          NARROW IS THE ROAD THAT LEADS TO LIFE. 
          AND THIS  THIS PLAYS VERY WELL IN THE SOUTH. 
          NOW, BICYCLES, BICYCLES AND BICYCLING ARE THE CURRENT REVOLUTION UNDERWAY IN ONLY SOME AMERICAN CITIES. 
          BUT WHERE YOU BUILD IT, THEY COME. 
          AND AS A PLANNER, I HATE TO SAY THAT, BUT THE ONE THING I CAN SAY IS THAT BICYCLE POPULATION IS A FUNCTION OF BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          I ASKED MY FRIEND TOM BRENNAN FROM NELSON NYGARD IN PORTLAND TO SEND ME SOME PICTURES OF THE PORTLAND BIKE COMMUTE. 
          AND HE SENT ME THIS AND I SAID, WAS THAT BIKE TO WORKDAY? AND HE SAID, NO, THAT WAS TUESDAY. 
          WHEN YOU DO WHAT PORTLAND DID, AND YOU SPEND MONEY ON BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, NEW YORK CITY HAS DOUBLED THE NUMBER OF BIKERS IN IT SEVERAL TIMES NOW, BY PAINTING THESE BRIGHT GREEN LANES, EVEN AUTOMOTIVE CITIES LIKE LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA, VAST UPTICK IN THE NUMBER OF BIKERS BASED ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND OF COURSE, WHAT REALLY DOES IT, IF YOU KNOW 15TH STREET HERE IN WASHINGTON, DC PLEASE MEET ROM EMANUEL'S NEW BIKE LANES IN CHICAGO, THE BUFFERED LANE, THE PARALLEL PARKING PULLED OFF THE CURB, THE BIKES BETWEEN THE CARS AND THE, THE PARK CARS AND THE CURB, THESE MINT CYCLISTS. 
          IF, HOWEVER, AS IN PASADENA, EVERY LANE IS A BIKE LANE, THEN NO LANE IS A BIKE LANE. 
          AND THIS IS THE ONLY BICYCLIST THAT I MET IN PASADENA. 
          SO , THE PARALLEL PARKING I MENTIONED, IT'S AN ESSENTIAL BARRIER OF STEEL THAT PROTECTS THE CURB, UH, AND PEDESTRIANS FROM MOVING VEHICLES. 
          UM, THIS IS FORT LAUDERDALE, ONE SIDE OF THE STREET. 
          YOU CAN PARK THE OTHER OF THE STREET SIDE OF THE STREET. 
          YOU CAN'T, THIS 
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IS HAPPY HOUR ON THE PARKING SIDE, THIS IS SAD HOUR ON THE OTHER SIDE. 
          AND THEN THE, THE TREES THEMSELVES, TREES SLOW CARS DOWN. 
          THEY MOVE SLOWER WHEN TREES ARE NEXT TO THE ROAD. 
          AND OF COURSE, SOMETIMES THEY SLOW DOWN VERY QUICKLY. 
          ALL THE LITTLE DETAILS. 
          THE CURB RETURN RADIUS, IS IT ONE FOOT OR IS IT 40 FEET? HOW SWOOPY IS THAT CURB TO DETERMINE HOW FAST THE CAR GOES AND HOW MUCH ROOM YOU HAVE TO CROSS. 
          AND THEN I LOVE THIS BECAUSE THIS IS OBJECTIVE JOURNALISM. 
          SOME SAY THE ENTRANCE TO CITY CENTER IS NOT INVITING TO PEDESTRIANS WHEN EVERY ASPECT OF THE LANDSCAPE IS SWOOPY, IS AERODYNAMIC, IS STREAM FORM GEOMETRICS. 
          IT SAYS THIS IS A VEHICULAR PLACE. 
          SO NO ONE DETAIL, NO ONE SPECIALTY CAN BE ALLOWED TO SET THE STAGE. 
          AND HERE, YOU KNOW, THIS STREET, YES, IT WILL DRAIN WITHIN A MINUTE OF THE A HUNDRED YEAR STORM, BUT THIS POOR WOMAN HAS TO MOUNT THE CURB EVERY DAY. 
          SO THEN QUICKLY, THE COMFORTABLE WALK HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT ALL ANIMALS SEEK SIMULTANEOUSLY PROSPECT AND REFUGE. 
          WE WANNA BE ABLE TO SEE OUR PREDATORS, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO FEEL THAT OUR FLANKS ARE COVERED. 
          AND SO WE'RE DRAWN TO PLACES THAT HAVE GOOD EDGES. 
          AND IF YOU DON'T SUPPLY THE EDGES, PEOPLE WON'T WANT TO BE THERE. 
          WHAT'S THE PROPER RATIO OF HEIGHT TO WIDTH? IS IT ONE TO ONE? THREE TO ONE? IF YOU GET BEYOND ONE TO SIX, YOU'RE NOT VERY COMFORTABLE ANYMORE. 
          YOU DON'T FEEL ENCLOSED. 
          NOW, SIX TO ONE IN SALZBURG CAN BE PERFECTLY DELIGHTFUL. 
          THE OPPOSITE OF SALZBURG IS HOUSTON, RIGHT? THE POINT BEING THE PARKING LOT IS THE PRINCIPLE, UH, PROBLEM HERE. 
          UH, HOWEVER, MISSING TEETH, THOSE EMPTY LOTS CAN BE ISSUES AS WELL. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE A MISSING CORNER BECAUSE OF AN OUTDATED ZONING CODE, THEN YOU COULD HAVE A MISSING A NOSE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE HAD IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UH, THIS WAS THE ZONING CODE THAT SAID I COULDN'T BUILD ON THAT SITE. 
          AS YOU KNOW, DC IS NOW, OR YOU MAY KNOW, WASHINGTON DC IS NOW CHANGING ITS ZONING TO ALLOW SITES LIKE THIS TO BECOME SITES LIKE THIS. 
          WE, WE NEEDED A LOT OF VARIANCES TO DO THAT. 
          TRIANGULAR HOUSES CAN BE INTERESTING TO BUILD, BUT IF YOU GET ONE BUILT, PEOPLE GENERALLY LIKE IT. 
          SO GOTTA FILL THOSE MISSING NOSES. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, THE INTERESTING WALK SIGNS OF HUMANITY. 
          YOU KNOW, WE ARE AMONG THE SOCIAL PRIMATES. 
          NOTHING INTERESTS US MORE THAN OTHER PEOPLE. 
          UH, WE WANT SIGNS OF PEOPLE. 
          SO THE PERFECT ONE-TO-ONE RATIO, IT'S A GREAT THING. 
          THIS IS GRAND RAPIDS, A VERY WALKABLE CITY, BUT NOBODY WALKS ON THIS STREET THAT CONNECTS THE TWO BEST HOTELS TOGETHER BECAUSE ON THE LEFT, YOU KNOW, IF ON THE LEFT YOU HAVE A EXPOSED PARKING DECK, AND ON THE RIGHT YOU HAVE A CONFERENCE FACILITY THAT WAS APPARENTLY DESIGNED IN ADMIRATION FOR THAT PARKING DECK, THEN YOU DON'T ATTRACT THAT MANY PEOPLE. 
           UH, MAYOR JOE RILEY IN HIS 10TH TERM MAYOR OF CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA, TAUGHT US IT ONLY TAKES 25 FEET OF BUILDING TO HIDE 250 FEET OF GARAGE. 
          THIS ONE I CALL THE CHIA PET GARAGE. 
          IT'S IN SOUTH BEACH, THAT ACTIVE GROUND FLOOR. 
          AND THEN THIS IS, I'M GONNA END WITH THIS PROJECT THAT I LOVE TO SHOW. 
          IT'S BY MALKA ARCHITECTS. 
          IT'S IN COLUMBUS, OHIO. 
          TO THE LEFT IS THE CONVENTION CENTER NEIGHBORHOOD FULL OF PEDESTRIANS. 
          TO THE RIGHT IS THE SHORT NORTH NEIGHBORHOOD, ETHNIC GREAT RESTAURANTS, GREAT SHOPS STRUGGLING. 
          AND IT WASN'T DOING VERY WELL BECAUSE THIS WAS THE BRIDGE, AND NO ONE WAS WALKING FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WELL, WHEN THEY REBUILT THE HIGHWAY, THEY ADDED AN EXTRA 80 FEET TO THE BRIDGE. 
          SORRY, THEY REBUILT THE BRIDGE OVER THE HIGHWAY. 
          THE CITY PAID $1.9 MILLION. 
          THEY GAVE THE SITE TO THE DEVELOP TO A DEVELOPER. 
          THE DEVELOPER BUILT THIS. 
          AND NOW THE SHORT NORTH HAS COME BACK TO LIFE. 
          AND EVERYONE SAYS THE NEWSPAPERS, NOT THE PLANNING MAGAZINES, THE NEWSPAPERS SAY IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT BRIDGE. 
          SO THAT'S IT, THAT'S THE GENERAL THEORY OF WALKABILITY. 
          UH, THINK ABOUT YOUR OWN CITIES, THINK ABOUT HOW YOU CAN APPLY IT. 
          YOU'VE GOTTA DO ALL FOUR THINGS AT ONCE. 
          SO FIND THOSE PLACES WHERE YOU HAVE MOST OF THEM AND FIX WHAT YOU CAN, UH, FIX WHAT STILL NEEDS FIXING IN THOSE PLACES. 
          UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION AND, UH, THANK, THANK YOU FOR, FOR COMING TODAY. 
          OOPS. 
          NOW I CAN'T ADVANCE IT. 
          LET ME GET OUTTA, THERE WE GO. 
          SO, UH, WHAT'D YOU GUYS THINK? THAT ALL MAKES SENSE. 
          I, UH, HE'S, HE'S GOT SO MUCH LONGER TALKS THAT HE, HE'S ACTUALLY AN AMAZING PRESENTER. 
          AND, UM, WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE HIM IN PERSON AND SEE THE, THE SLIDES AND EVERYTHING ALL ALTOGETHER, HE DOES A REALLY GREAT JOB OF PRESENTING SOME COMPLICATED CONCEPTS WITH SOME HUMOR. 
          AND, UM, AND HE'S GOT MORE THAN ENOUGH SKINS ON THE WALL TO, TO PROVE UP A LOT OF WHAT HE, WHAT HE'S DONE. 
          SO LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR, FOR ADDISON, RIGHT? UM, HE TALKS ABOUT YOU CAN'T, THERE, THERE'S NOT EVERYWHERE IN A CITY THAT YOU CAN MAKE, YOU KNOW, FULLY, FULLY WALKABLE AND HOW THE FOCUS IS TYPICALLY ON THE DOWNTOWNS. 
          UM, I THINK AS WE THINK ABOUT ADDISON, 
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THE MAJORITY OF ADDISON IS SOMEWHAT LIKE A MINI DOWNTOWN. 
          YOU HAVE SOME POCKETS OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I THINK ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING TO, TO MAKE WALKABLE. 
          BUT BY AND LARGE, THE MAJORITY OF ADDISON COULD BE AS WALKABLE AS YOU ALL WANT TO, UM, WANT TO MAKE IT. 
          UM, SO THIS IS THE VISION STORY AS IT'S, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE FEEDBACK AND THE INPUT THAT WE'VE GOTTEN, THINK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          FIRST IS, IS JUST THE, LET ME START, I GUESS WITH THE, I'LL START WITH THE COST OF HOUSING, RIGHT? THE COST OF HOUSING IS CONTINUING TO GO UP, WHETHER THAT'S SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, TOWN HOMES, APARTMENTS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THE COST IS GOING UP. 
          IT'S PRIMARILY A SUPPLY ISSUE. 
          WE NEED MORE OF IT. 
          UM, BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW THOSE COSTS ARE GOING UP, EVEN JUST HERE IN THE METROPLEX, AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS TO THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD, UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING, WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE TO GET IN. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, A STARTER HOME BACK 20 YEARS AGO USED TO BE 150, 200,000. 
          THAT SAME 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOME TODAY IS PRETTY CLOSE TO DOUBLE THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND HOW DO YOU BUILD MORE AFFORDABLE OPTIONS THAT ARE STILL QUALITY, THEY TEND TO, THEY TEND TO LEND THEMSELVES TO A MORE WALKABLE CONTEXT. 
          UM, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE COST OF TRANSPORTATION AND YOU THINK ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE INDIVIDUAL, WHETHER IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL OR A FAMILY, AND THE COST THAT'S GOING INTO CARS AND GAS AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH IT, WITH IT, THOSE COSTS ARE GOING UP AS WELL. 
          UM, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT CHOOSE AND CAN AFFORD TO LIVE THAT WAY. 
          UM, BUT THERE IS DATA THAT'S SHOWING THERE ARE MORE AND MORE FEW MORE AND MORE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T. 
          AND SO HOW DO DIFFERENT CITIES ACCOMMODATE THAT, UM, THAT SPECTRUM IN DIFFERENT WAYS? UM, YOU ALSO, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, UM, FROM THE SENIOR PERSPECTIVE AND AGING IN PLACE, SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT I THINK JADE HAD SHARED WITH YOU ALL, THERE'S BEEN STUDIES OUT THERE THAT TALK ABOUT AGING IN PLACE AND HOW FOLKS WANT TO STAY IN THE HOMES THAT THEY'RE IN, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY'RE IN AREN'T VERY WALKABLE RIGHT NOW. 
          AND SO YOU HAVE MORE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THEIR HOME, THEY WANNA STAY IN THEIR HOME, BUT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DRIVE ANYMORE. 
          AND SO HOW DO YOU MAKE NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THAT A LITTLE MORE WALKABLE AND COMFORTABLE TO AGE IN PLACE FOR THOSE WHO CAN AND, AND WANT TO. 
          UM, AND THEN ON THE YOUNGER SIDE OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC SPECTRUM, YOU HAVE DEFINITELY MORE OF AN INTEREST, UM, IN MORE OF THE WALKABLE COMMUNITIES FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. 
          UM, SOME OF THEM WILL SAY, I GREW UP IN A SUBURB AND I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SUBURB. 
          AGAIN. 
          YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM WILL, UM, WILL SAY THEY JUST WANT THE WALKABILITY FOR THE HEALTHY, UM, ASPECT OF IT. 
          AND THAT COULD STILL MEAN A WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD IN A SINGLE FAMILY CONTEXT, BUT IT'S A MORE, MORE OF WHAT I WOULD CALL A TRADITIONAL TYPE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S GOT A MIX OF USES CLOSEST TOGETHER. 
          SO, UM, WHAT'S EXCITING ABOUT ADDISON, I I SAID THIS FROM THE, THE BEGINNING AND STILL THINK SO AND AND FEEL LIKE A, A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM FEELS THIS WAY AS WELL. 
          IS THERE, THERE IS, YOU ARE ALREADY MORE WALKABLE THAN MOST PLACES AROUND THE METROPLEX. 
          UM, AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE MORE, UM, IT'S JUST ABOUT, JUST LIKE JEFF SPECK WAS SAYING, IT'S ABOUT LOOKING AT SPECIFIC AREAS AND WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC WAYS TO MAKE THOSE MORE USEFUL AND COMFORTABLE AND INTERESTING AND SAFE. 
          UM, AND DIFFERENT STRATEGIES ARE GONNA WORK IN DIFFERENT, UM, IN DIFFERENT PLACES. 
          UM, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE, LET'S CALL IT THE LEGACY PROJECT END OF THE SPECTRUM HERE, UM, IS THINK ABOUT YOUR MAJOR ROADWAYS HERE, BELTLINE AND MIDWAY. 
          UM, THOSE ARE, THOSE HAVE A TON OF CARS RIGHT NOW. 
          THEY MOVE A, THEY MOVE A TON OF CARS. 
          UM, BUT A LOT OF THOSE, I WOULD ARGUE, I DON'T KNOW THIS FOR A FACT, BUT I BET IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC COUNTS IN THE STUDIES, QUITE A FEW OF THOSE CARS ARE MOVING THROUGH ADDISON. 
          SO IT'S A WAY TO MOVE THROUGH ADDISON, NOT TO ADDISON. 
          AND SO ADDISON IS A SMALL ENOUGH PLACE, AND WE TALKED, WE'VE TALKED IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS ABOUT HOW CONNECTED Y'ALL ARE, RIGHT? IF YOU WANTED TO GET FROM SOMEWHERE IN THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH OR THE WEST TO THE WEST TO THE EAST OR EAST OR WEST OR WHATEVER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TOO FAR EAST OR WEST TO GET TO A MAJOR ROADWAY AND GO AROUND ADDISON, RIGHT? UM, SO YOU COULD GO ALL THE WAY TO THE EXTREME IF YOU WANTED TO WITH SOMEWHERE LIKE A BELT LINE OR A MIDWAY OR BOTH. 
          UM, YOU COULD TAKE THAT JUST LIKE JEFF WAS SAYING, THOSE ARE SIX LANE ROADS RIGHT NOW. 
          YOU COULD TAKE THOSE DOWN TO THREE. 
          UM, AND YOU COULD CREATE A LOT MORE SPACE FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BIKES. 
          AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU DID THAT IS YOU WOULD FLIP A LOT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT CORRIDOR THAT YOU SEE THE PARKING LOTS, AND THEN THE BUILDINGS ARE FURTHER BE BEHIND AND IT'S MORE OF A DRIVE TO A PARK AND, AND GO TO THE RESTAURANT OR THE BUSINESS. 
          YOU WOULD FLIP IT TO WHERE A LOT OF THOSE BUSINESSES WOULD BE MORE UP ON THE STREET FRONTING ONTO BELTLINE AND THE SIDEWALKS AND THE PARKING AND MORE OF THE AUTO, UH, TRAFFIC WOULD BE BACK BEHIND IT. 
          UM, 
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YOU MIGHT BE THINKING, HOW IN THE WORLD IS THAT POSSIBLE? THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE COULD TRANSITION, YOU KNOW, A ROAD LIKE BELT LINE INTO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. 
          SO, UM, I GIVE YOU THE EXAMPLE OF LANCASTER BOULEVARD IN LANCASTER, CALIFORNIA. 
          UM, LOWER GREENVILLE IN DALLAS IS ALSO ANOTHER ONE THAT HAD FIVE LANES AND WENT DOWN TO TWO THREE IN DIFFERENT PLACES. 
          VERY SIMILAR STORY. 
          THEY TALKED ABOUT THIS ROAD FOR YEARS FROM LIKE 2000 TO 2005 TO 2006. 
          THEY FINALLY GOT LEADERSHIP IN 2007 TO DESIGN IT AND CHANGES. 
          SO IT WENT FROM THIS, HERE IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THERE IT IS A LITTLE FURTHER UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 
          THERE'S ONE SEGMENT OF IT THAT'S FINISHED OR ALMOST FINISHED. 
          UM, AND THEN HERE'S AN EVENT THAT THEY HAD AFTER THEY TOOK, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT SIX BLOCKS TOTAL. 
          UM, AND THIS AREA, IT'S HARD TO SEE IN THIS PICTURE, BUT THIS AREA RIGHT, RIGHT HERE IS BECAME ANGLED PARKING IN THE MIDDLE. 
          UM, ANY, HAVE ANY OF YOU BEEN TO SNYDER PLAZA DOWN AROUND SMU? YOU KNOW HOW THEY HAVE THAT ANGLED PARKING, SO IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR. 
          SO THIS WAS A ROAD CORRIDOR THAT THEY BASICALLY TURNED INTO A PEDESTRIAN PLAZA. 
          SO THEY HAVE TIMES WHERE THEY BLOCK ALL OF THIS OFF AND HAVE, UH, FESTIVALS AND STUFF IN HERE, BUT THEY HAVE AT ALL TIMES, EXCEPT WHEN THEY CLOSE IT DOWN FOR A FESTIVAL, THEY'VE GOT ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC EACH WAY. 
          SOMETIMES THEY, SOME BLOCKS THEY HAVE ANGLED PARKING IN THE MIDDLE, SOME BLOCKS, THEY HAVE PARALLEL PARKING ON THE OUTSIDE, ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN. 
          THIS, THEY BROUGHT THE CURBS IN, ADDED MORE STREET TREES, WIDENED THE SIDEWALKS THAT ALLOWED MORE, UM, OF THE OUTDOOR SEATING TO HAPPEN. 
          AND I WROTE DOWN, I DIDN'T, UH, I WANTED TO, I WANTED TO TELL YOU ALL THESE STATISTICS. 
          SO, UM, SO EIGHT WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING IT, THEY HAD 1300 TEMPORARY JOBS DURING CONSTRUCTION DURING COVID THAT THEY ADDED. 
          UM, OR THAT THEY HAD, THEY HAD EIGHT, THEY ADDED 800 PERMANENT JOBS AFTER IT WAS DONE. 
          UM, 800 HOUSING UNITS WERE BUILT OR REHABBED. 
          116,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE WAS BUILT OR RENOVATED. 
          UM, AND THE TAX REVENUE HAS GONE UP 96% FROM 2007 UNTIL TWO YEARS AGO. 
          SO 2021, UM, THIS HAS BECOME, IT'S NOW BRANDED AS, AS LANCASTER, BLVD. 
          THEY HAVE A WHOLE, IT HAS ITS WHOLE, A WHOLE SEPARATE WEBSITE. 
          THEY DO ALL KINDS OF EVENTS THERE. 
          UM, BUT A THOUGHT HERE, THIS IS MORE JUST TO KIND OF INSPIRE ABOUT WHAT'S POSSIBLE. 
          IT DIDN'T, IT WASN'T AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE, UM, BUT THEY FINALLY, THEY TALKED ABOUT IT FOREVER. 
          ONCE THEY MADE THE DECISION TO DO IT, THEY GOT IN, DESIGNED IT AND BUILT IT AND WERE IN AND OUT PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT. 
          UM, I'M NOT SUGGESTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF BELTLINE. 
          UM, BUT WE ALSO, IF YOU GO BACK AND YOU THINK ABOUT CROSSING THE TOLLWAY, RIGHT? AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AT THE TOLLWAY. 
          UM, I DON'T PERSONAL OPINION HERE, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY IN A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OR CROSSING AT BELTLINE IN THE TOLLWAY WHEN BELTLINE ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT IS NOT WALKABLE OR SAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS. 
          YOU'RE, YOU COULD END UP WITH A, A CROSSING THAT YOU PUT A LOT OF MONEY IN, BUT NOBODY USES. 
          BUT IF YOU TOOK A COUPLE OF BLOCKS OF BELTLINE ON EITHER SIDE OF IT AND DID SOMETHING LIKE THIS, UM, AND MADE IT PEDESTRIAN UP TO BOTH, YOU KNOW, BOTH SIDES OF IT, YOU COULD MAKE THAT A VERY SAFE AND A VERY ACTIVE SPACE. 
          I I SOMEONE IN THIS CROWD, I WILL NOT NAME NAMES, BUT SOMEONE SUGGESTED, IS ANYBODY HERE FAMILIAR WITH CLYDE WARREN PARK, THE DECK PARK DOWNTOWN? SO SOMEONE TOOK MY IDEA EVEN FURTHER AND SAID, WHAT IF WE DID A DECK PARK A ACROSS THERE AND REALLY MADE THAT, THAT WOULD REALLY BRAND IT AS AN ADDISON THING. 
          SO BECAUSE I DUNNO THE LAYOUT OF THIS, WHAT I STRUGGLE WITH ROADS OUTSIDE MM-HMM,  I STRUGGLE WITH BELT IS THAT IS ONE OF THE, TO WEST MIC. 
          SORRY, WHAT? OKAY. 
          UM, SO WHAT I STRUGGLE WITH THIS AND NOT KNOWING HOW THESE ROADS LAY OUT AROUND HERE IS, IS BELTLINE IS REALLY ONE OF THE FEW EAST TO WEST ROADS THAT GET YOU FROM ONE MAJOR FURTHER OR FAIR TO ANOTHER. 
          SO YES, I GET THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THAT, BUT ALSO BEING A CITIZEN THAT LIVES HERE, I, I DON'T WANT THE TO LOSE THAT OR HAVE GO TO SUCH SMALLER LANES THAT IT IS SO JAMMED WITH TRAFFIC ALL THE TIME THAT I'VE NOW LOST SOME OF THAT. 
          AND, AND I DON'T, I SEE THIS EASIER DOWN LIKE A MIDWAY MM-HMM. 
           BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT MARSH AND YOU'VE GOT INWOOD AND YOU'VE GOT THE TOLL ROAD. 
          I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF THOROUGHFARES MM-HMM. 
           ON EACH SIDE OF IT THAT GET YOU PLACES. 
          I STRUGGLE WITH IT ON BELTLINE BECAUSE 
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OF THAT AND THAT, AND THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          I THINK THERE'S, UM, TO LOOK AT THE, AT THE TOWN OVERALL AND THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS, YOU, YOU HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES SOMEWHERE. 
          YOU, YOU HAVE ENOUGH ROUTES. 
          I DO AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I MEAN THE BELTLINE IS THE MAJOR EAST, WEST, I GUESS YOU COULD CALL KEL SPRINGS OUT A LITTLE BIT WITH THE TUNNEL. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, UM, BUT YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MANY, SOME, SOME OF WHAT SLOWS CARS DOWN TOO IS SIGNAL AFTER SIGNAL AFTER SIGNAL. 
          SO IF YOU WERE TO GO TO, UM, ONE OF THE BETTER ENGINEERS OUT THERE THAT, THAT WILL THINK MORE ABOUT MOVING ALL TIMES OF MOBILITY AND NOT JUST THE CARS. 
          UM, YOU, YOU CAN MOVE A LOT OF CARS IN ONE LANE. 
          UM, IT JUST SLOWS 'EM DOWN A LOT WHEN YOU HAVE A STOP CONDITION, YOU KNOW, EVERY COUPLE OF BLOCKS. 
          SO I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT A TRAFFIC STUDY HERE AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS. 
          I DO THINK MONTFORT IS SO, OR MIDWAY IS AN, UH, EXAMPLE. 
          YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, SO INTERESTINGLY, WE, YEARS AGO WE HAD LOOKED AT MAKING BELT LINE LIKE TWO LANES EACH DIRECTION AND DOING A DIVIDER AND A SLIP LANE, SORT OF LIKE AT AT LOVE AT A LOVER'S LANE. 
          AND WE'D LOOKED AT DOING, THIS IS PROBABLY AFTER YOU SUE BETWEEN, BETWEEN YOU AND ME WHEN WE WERE ON COUNCIL BACK THEN. 
          BUT UM, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ENDED UP EXTENDING ARAPAHOE ROAD. 
          IT USED TO STOP AT INWOOD AND WE MADE IT WITH THE BRIDGE. 
          SO THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE EAST WEST THOROUGHFARE TO GET ACROSS TOWN IF YOU WANTED TO BE IN A HURRY, BUT THEN MAKE BELTLINE BE SLOWER. 
          AND THEN WE NEVER, WE NEVER FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH IT. 
          SO IF I CAN JUMP IN A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD, AND ONE OF THE ISSUES, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE WITH BELTLINE ROAD IS THERE ARE MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS INVOLVED. 
          WE DON'T CONTROL THAT INTERSECTION AT THE TOLLWAY AND BELTLINE DALLAS DOES. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, AND, AND PART OF WHAT WENT ON, UM, SO MY COUNSEL BOUGHT THE RIGHT OF WAY AND DESIGNED THE EXTENSION OF ARAPAHOE ROAD. 
          I THINK, UH, WHEELER'S COUNCIL BUILT IT AND THEN YOU WERE AFTER THAT. 
          UM, SO, UM, PART OF WHAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE DO ACCEPT PUBLIC FUNDS FROM, YOU KNOW, TXDOT AND OTHERS TO WORK ON SOME OF THESE ROADS. 
          BELTLINE IS A MAJOR EAST WEST THOROUGHFARE. 
          AND OUR, ONE OF OUR CONCERNS WAS THAT IF WE DIDN'T FIND SOME TYPE OF RELIEF, THEY WERE GONNA FORCE US TO TAKE IT UNDER. 
          AND THAT WOULD REALLY BE PROBLEMATIC FOR THE BUSINESSES. 
          UM, A LONG BELT LINE WHO, YOU KNOW, WHO BENEFIT FROM THE TRAFFIC THAT'S AT STREET LEVEL. 
          THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS FOR DOING THE ARAPAHO ROAD EXTENSION. 
          IT USED TO END AT EDWIN LEWIS AND THEN IT WENT ACROSS AND THE BRIDGE WAS BUILT AND IT WENT ALL THE WAY. 
          NOW IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO MARSH. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT'S ONE, UH, REACTION. 
          I HAVE TO, I MEAN, WE ALL SHUTTER THINKING OF, OF IT'S, I CAN'T FATHOM HOW WE COULD SHUT DOWN, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, MAKE BELTLINE ROAD SMALLER. 
          UM, LET ME CHANGE ONE SUBJECT BECAUSE PART OF WHAT HE TALKED ABOUT WAS 22 FOOT STREETS WHEN WE DID THE, UM, ADDISON GRAND DEVELOPMENT, UH, WITH GRAND HOMES OVER IN LAY LOCKS. 
          UM, WE, ONE, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD WAS THEY PROPOSED 22 FOOT STREETS AND FLAG LOTS, AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LOST THEIR MINDS. 
          UM, THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED AND WE SAW ALL KINDS OF DIAGRAMS ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO PARK MULTIPLE EMERGENCY VEHICLES. 
          YOU KNOW, ON A 22 FOOT STREET, YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ROOM, WHEREAS IN A 33 FOOT STREET YOU HAVE MORE ROOM. 
          AND IT, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T, THAT DISCUSSION HAPPENED AROUND THE TIME OF THE PLANE CRASH INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE OWNED WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR IN, YOU KNOW, ON LEADVILLE. 
          UM, AND, AND THEY HAD NOTHING IN THEIR WAY. 
          THEY HAD 33 FOOT STREETS AND OF COURSE NO PARKING FROM 2:00 AM TO 6:00 AM AND THE CRASH OCCURRED AT ABOUT 3:00 AM AND, UM, AND SO THE STREETS WERE CLEAR, THE STREETS WERE WIDE AND THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES ALL GET IN WITH NO PROBLEM. 
          SO I'M, I'M VERY CURIOUS, I MEAN, 22 FOOT STREETS IN, IN SOME MEASURE HE'S SUGGESTING IS AN INVITING THING, BUT THEN WHERE DO YOU GO FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE WITH, WITH SOME OF THE, THAT NARROWING? YEAH, SO THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 
          AND IT'S A CONVERSATION THAT'S HAPPENED AND IT'S INCREASING A LOT MORE IN THE LAST FIVE OR SO YEARS. 
          AND I, I, THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THING THAT I'LL PUT MY PE HAT ON AND, AND GET INTO CONVERSATIONS WITH OF, AND THIS IS A, IT'S A PRINCIPLE THING OF WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY 
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DO YOU WANT TO BE? DO YOU WANT TO BE A COMMUNITY THAT DESIGNS TO ACCOMMODATE THE LARGER FIRE TRUCKS OR DO YOU WANT TO DESIGN YOUR POLICE AND FIRE FLEET TO ACCOMMODATE THE KIND OF COMMUNITY THAT YOU WANT TO BE? GO OVER ANYWHERE IN EUROPE AND YOU WILL SEE VERY, VERY SMALL LANES, VERY SMALL STREETS, AND THERE THEY HAVE FEWER FIRES AND LESS ISSUES THAN, UM, WE DO. 
          THERE'S ALSO, THERE'S A GREAT MEME OUT THERE THAT MY FRIENDS AT STRONG TOWNS DO THAT THAT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE OUR, OUR STREETS HAVE BEEN, OUR WIDER STREETS ARE DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE THE VEHICLES THAT HAVE TO RESPOND TO CRASHES CAUSED BY OUR WIDER STREETS OR SOMETHING. 
          BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S A GREAT GRAPHIC THAT I SHOW THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH DESIGN SPEED IMPACTS THE, THE SAFETY. 
          AND BASICALLY IF YOU'RE A PEDESTRIAN AND YOU GET HIT BY A CAR GOING MORE THAN 30 MILES AN HOUR, YOUR CHANCE OF A FATAL INJURY GOES UP FROM UNDER 30 MILES AN HOUR. 
          IT'S LESS THAN 20% OVER 30 MILES AN HOUR. 
          IT GOES TO OVER 80%. 
          WHAT'S THE SPEED LIMIT IN OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS TODAY? YEAH, WELL, , THAT'S A, THAT'S A DIFFERENT, WHEN, THAT'S THE OTHER THING IS WHEN YOU BUILD THE WIDER STREETS AND YOU DON'T, 'CAUSE THEY ARE DESIGNED FOR SOME ON STREET PARKING AND FOR POLICE AND FIRE TO GET THROUGH, SAY YOU DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, CARS PARKED ON BOTH SIDES AND EMERGENCY VEHICLE HAS TO GET THROUGH, UM, THAT'S PART OF WHY THEY ARE WIDER INTO CITIES POINT. 
          SO THEY HAVE ROOM TO PUT THEIR, THEIR, UM, BASES DOWN. 
          BUT, UM, BUT WHEN THERE AREN'T CARS PARKED ON THOSE STREETS, WHAT YOU END UP WAS WITH A REALLY WIDE RUNWAY THAT IF DON'T GO TRY THIS. 
          BUT IF YOU WANTED TO JUST DRIVE WITH YOUR HEAD DOWN AND NOT EVEN LOOK UP DOING THIS, ANYBODY HAVE A TEENAGE DRIVER? THEY'RE DOING THIS, YOU CAN DRIVE FOR BLOCKS ON SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS BEFORE YOU HIT SOMETHING. 
          UM, SO THE POINT THAT WHEN YOU NARROW 'EM, YOU FORCE DRIVERS TO PAY ATTENTION AND GO, GO SLOWER. 
          YOU CAN STILL DESIGN THEM IN A WAY THAT MOVES TRAFFIC CONSISTENTLY THROUGH, BUT WHEN IT'S SLOWER, YOU TEND TO HAVE, YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE CROSSING, YOU CAN HAVE BIKES CROSSING AND IF SOMETHING, IF YOU WERE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF IF A CAR WAS TO HAPPEN TO HIT SOMEBODY, THEY'RE GOING AT A SLOWER SPEED SO THE FATALITIES GO DOWN. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S A PRIORITY THING. 
          THERE'S STILL A HUGE PUSHBACK FROM, TO SUE'S POINT, AND I DON'T WANNA DISCREDIT THIS, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SIDE OF IT, IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE TO CHANGE FROM THE WAY THAT WE'VE BEEN BUILDING OUR PLACES AND THE FLEETS AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          BUT I WOULD JUST SAY NEVER SAY, NEVER SAY NEVER. 
          YOU CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF PLACE YOU CAN GO BUY SOME SMALLER FLEETS AND IF YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF THE FIRE CALLS, WE'RE TAKING REALLY BIG TRUCKS TO GO. 
          A LOT OF TIMES IT'S JUST TO A HEART ATTACK ISSUE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE SMALLER ENOUGH OF THE SMALLER, UH, FLEET. 
          ONE OTHER THING THAT I'LL SAY IS ANOTHER THING THAT COMES INTO PLAY WITH FIRE DEPARTMENTS IMPACTING DESIGN. 
          JEFF HAD A, A SLIDE IN THERE WHERE HE TALKED ABOUT THE CURB RADIUS, RIGHT? THE, THE ONE FOOT RADIUS OR THE 25 FOOT RADIUS, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE A PEDESTRIAN AND YOU'RE WALKING UP TO AN INTERSECTION AND IT'S A ONE FOOT CURB RETURN ON BOTH SIDES, RIGHT? THAT DISTANCE THAT YOU HAVE TO WALK ACROSS THE STREET IS MAYBE 22 FEET OR 24 FEET OR 31 FEET. 
          IF IT'S A 28 FOOT CURB RADIUS OR 30 FOOT, WHATEVER THOSE BIG TRUCKS REQUIRE, WHAT DID YOU JUST DO? YOU JUST DOUBLED THAT DISTANCE THAT A PEDESTRIAN OR SOMEONE IN A WHEELCHAIR SOMEBODY HAS TO CROSS, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          SO ALL OF THOSE, AND, AND WHAT JEFF SAYS, THEY'RE, THEY ALL GO TOGETHER. 
          IF YOU DO REALLY WANT TO MAKE A PLACE MORE WALKABLE AND BIKEABLE, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT ALL OF THOSE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS TOGETHER. 
          AND SOME OF THEM, THESE ARE GONNA BE LONG-TERM CONVERSATIONS. 
          YOU'RE NOT GONNA SNAP YOUR FINGERS AND CHANGE EVERYWHERE IN ADDISON, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A CHICKEN IN A EGG. 
          WHAT BRINGS BACK TO OUR, SORRY, SORRY, LIZ. 
          WHAT BRINGS ME BACK TO OUR MISSION STATEMENT? I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS THERE ARE QUITE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T CARE THAT WE OFFER OPPORTUNITIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          I HAVE HAVE HEARD THAT EXPRESSED IN DIFFERENT WAYS, SOME VERY POLITICALLY CORRECT AND SOME NOT, UH, THAT, THAT THE, THAT THAT'S NOT A GOAL THAT THEY HAVE FOR EDISON. 
          SO I THINK AS WE EXPLORE SOME OF THESE THINGS, WE NEED TO, TO THINK ABOUT THIS MISSION ALSO AT THE SAME TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY, TECHNOLOGY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE QUICKEST WAY I'VE HEARD TO SHUT DOWN A DEVELOPMENT, UH, IN MY EXPERIENCES IS TO SAY THE POLICE AND FIRE ARE OPPOSED TO IT. 
          SO I THINK CAN YOU SPEAK UP DAVID, JUST AGAIN? YEAH, YEAH. 
          SO BECAUSE THESE GUYS BACK TO THE CAN, 
          [00:45:01]
SORRY. 
          UH, IN MY EXPERIENCE IN THE REAL ESTATE WORLD, ONE OF THE QUICKEST WAYS TO KIND OF SHUT DOWN A PROJECT IS TO HAVE THE POLICE AND FIRE OPPOSED TO IT. 
          AND I GET IT AND I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I THINK BEING CREATIVE AND BEING INNOVATIVE, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF COMMUNITIES HAVE FOUGHT THAT FIGHT OR HAVE WORKED, DONE WORKAROUNDS TO MAKE IT WORK FOR THEM. 
          MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN IN CALIFORNIA, DEVELOPER WAS HITTING THAT WALL, HE WENT OUT AND BOUGHT SMALLER VEHICLES ON HIS OWN NICKEL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WAS ABLE TO OVERCOME THAT. 
          SO I THINK THERE'S WAYS, I THINK IF WE STAY TO OUR VISION, BIG PICTURE, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, THERE'S GONNA BE INNUMERABLE OBSTACLES FOR US TO GET TO THE FINISH LINE. 
          AND I THINK THE MORE WE KIND OF ADOPT THE PHILOSOPHY OF WHAT'S THE ART OF THE POSSIBLE AND STILL TRY AND HAVE A REALISTIC VIEW OF THE WORLD, THAT'S, TO ME AT LEAST THE WAY TO APPROACH THIS SO THAT WE DON'T KIND OF HIT A WALL PREMATURELY BEFORE WE'VE WORKED THROUGH ALL THE PARTICULARS OF THE, OF THE PROCESS. 
          YEP. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SEE THE, UM, WHEN WE GET TO THE FINAL, UH, DOCUMENT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IS WE TALK ABOUT THE, THE STRATEGIES AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE, WE WILL HAVE BITS OF SOME EDUCATIONAL CONTENT ON DIFFERENT PARTS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO OR, OR ADDRESS, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE BIGGEST BARRIERS TO SUCCESS OF WHAT WE WANT TO, AND WE HAVE VERY INTENTIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND WITH OTHERS ABOUT WHAT THOSE BARRIERS ARE AND HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO OVERCOME SOME OF THOSE. 
          SO I THINK WHETHER IT'S THE HOUSING CONVERSATION OR MOBILITY, PART OF OUR JOB IS TO SHOW THE DATA AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE TRENDS OF WHERE THINGS ARE GOING, UM, VALIDATE THAT AND VET THAT WITH YOU ALL OF HOW MUCH OF THAT IS, IS REAL AND WHERE DO WE NEED TO, TO KIND OF CALIBRATE SOME OF THOSE THINGS TO, TO ADDISON. 
          BUT, BUT TO DAVE'S POINT OF TRYING TO THINK A LITTLE MORE ON THE VISIONARY SIDE AND THE ART OF THE POSSIBLE AND, AND PART OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THINK ABOUT WHAT WOULD YOU IDEALLY LIKE TO HAPPEN? I DO, I DID START THIS WHOLE THING WITH, ONE OF THE THINGS I DO IS, IS WE WANT TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT RESOURCES, UH, BECAUSE I SEE A LOT OF VERY VISIONARY PLANS, BUT THE, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO MAKE 'EM HAPPEN. 
          ADDISON DOES HAVE RESOURCES TO INVEST IN SOME OF THESE THINGS IF IT IS A TRUE PRIORITY OF THE, THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT. 
          ABBY, LET ME GO TO AAL IN THE BACK FIRST AND THEN I'LL GET YOU. 
          SO I, I, I HAVE, UM, I'VE, I HAVE AN OBSERVATION CAN A LITTLE BIT OUT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          IT'S ON. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WE JUST GOTTA TALK ROOM. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          NO, YOU STILL USE THE MIC? I USED THE MICROPHONE FOR THE, FOR THE OKAY. 
          RECORDING. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IT DOESN'T ANSWER FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I HAVE AN OBSERVATION AND I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          I WANT TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON MY OBSERVATION IS THAT IF WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT SPEAK UP REALLY. 
          OKAY, SO I HAVE AN OBSERVATION AND I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          MY OBSERVATION IS THAT IF WE ARE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THINKING FORWARD AS TO WHAT ADDISON SHOULD LOOK LIKE IN 2050, WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW REPRESENTS MORE OF THE VISION THAT I WOULD GRAVITATE TOWARDS THAN WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. 
          SO THAT'S MY OBSERVATION. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL OF THE OBJECTIONS THAT COME UP, ALL OF THOSE ARE HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENTS, THOSE ARE THINGS TO BE OVERCOME CREATIVELY. 
          I MEAN, I WOULD ALSO OPINE THAT THE FASTEST WAY TO GET A MUNICIPAL SERVICE GROUP, LIKE A FIRE DEPARTMENT OR A POLICE DEPARTMENT ON BOARD IS TO GIVE THEM NEW BUDGET TO GO TRANSFORM THEIR MA MORE THEIR MACHINES. 
          EVERYBODY LOVES TO SPEND MONEY, ESPECIALLY IF YOU SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE, GO DESIGN YOURSELF SO THAT YOU CAN DO THIS AND WE'LL PHASE IT IN OVER SOME PERIOD OF TIME. 
          YOU'LL GET PEOPLE ON BOARD BY GIVING THEM MONEY. 
          THAT'S THE OLDEST TRICK IN THE BOOK. 
          THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, YOU MENTIONED THAT PEOPLE GO ON BELTLINE, HOW MANY ARE GOING THROUGH ADDISON AS OPPOSED TO GOING TO ADDISON? DO YOU OR WE HAVE ANY DATA ON THAT? YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW RECENT THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS, BUT THEY'LL HAVE TRAFFIC COUNTS AND SOME OF THAT. 
          AND WE'VE GOT, WE ASKED WHEN WE STARTED THE PROJECT, WE ASKED FOR TRAFFIC COUNTS. 
          IT'S BEEN A WHILE, SO I THINK WE NEED TO GET SOME UPDATED ONES, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN TELL HOW MANY'S GOING THROUGH VERSUS TWO AND ARE THEY GOING NORTH, SOUTH, TURNING WHEREVER? UM, DO YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, DO YOU? NO, OUR LAST THOROUGHFARE PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2019 AND WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING IT AGAIN. 
          UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES AND SHIFTS THROUGH THE PANDEMIC AND SINCE THE PANDEMIC. 
          SO WE ARE STARTING THAT PROCESS. 
          SO, UH, IT'S LIKELY, THAT'S PROBABLY, I WANNA SAY TWO-ISH YEARS, JUST BALLPARK, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LESS, MAYBE MORE LIKE 18 MONTHS. 
          SO DO YOU HAVE AN, IS THERE, IS THERE A PERCENTAGE, A WORKING PERCENTAGE NUMBER? DO 10% GO THROUGH, DO 90% GO THROUGH, I MEAN, WHAT'S THE BALLPARK NUMBER? WE COULD GET 
          [00:50:01]
YOU THAT, THAT DATA A LITTLE, LIKE, A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARLY, BUT THE DATA WE HAVE FROM 2019 IS JUST NOT, IT, IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT REALISTIC FOR WHAT WE HAVE TODAY BECAUSE IT WAS PRE PANDEMIC NUMBERS. 
          WELL, I, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO NARROW, UM, BELTLINE AND THEN THINGS LIKE MIDWAY AND THE OTHER BIG THOROUGHFARES WHERE WE THINK PEOPLE ARE RACING THROUGH, IF IF THEY AREN'T THEN WE MIGHT BE DOING OURSELVES A DISSERVICE. 
          BUT IF THEY ARE, WE MIGHT ALSO BE DOING OURSELVES A DISSERVICE BECAUSE THE PLANNED ROUTES AROUND NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AS WELL. 
          OTHERWISE THOSE PEOPLE WILL NO LONGER GO THROUGH. 
          AND IF YOU CUT THE THROUGH TRAFFIC THROUGH ADDISON, YOU'LL ALSO CUT THE TRAFFIC TO ADDISON, WHICH IS THE LIFEBLOOD OF OUR ECONOMIC, OUR ECONOMY, I THINK. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LAND USE TRANSPORTATION INTERSECTION IS RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OF THOSE BUSINESSES ALONG BELTLINE THAT THEY DRAW FROM A BROAD AREA. 
          PEOPLE DRIVE TO ADDISON, THEY PARK THERE AND THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY. 
          I THINK SOME OF THAT, WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LEGACY AND SOME OF THE OTHER KIND OF COMPETITOR AREAS. 
          I I, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF YOU SEE MORE SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC THAT USED TO DRIVE TO ADDISON START TO PULL BACK AND GO TO OTHER PLACES THAT ARE CLOSER VERSUS, AGAIN, IF YOU START TO INTENTIONALLY INFILL AND BUILD SOME, EVOLVE SOME OF THESE PLACES A LITTLE BIT, YOU CAN START TO GET MORE OF THAT DEMAND LOCALLY AND NOT RELY AS MUCH ON ON, UM, YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE SOME OF THE EXTERNAL FOLKS COMING INTO ADDISON. 
          THERE'S, WITH ALL THE BUSINESSES HERE, THERE'S NO DOUBT THERE. 
          BUT I, ONE OTHER THING, I, AS MUCH AS I CAN, I LIKE TO TIE THESE TO DOLLARS, RIGHT? SO YOU SEE THAT'S WHAT ROUGHLY A SIX LANE ROAD THERE. 
          SO, AND I'M GONNA CALL IT, THEY'RE PROBABLY 11 FOOT LANES. 
          SO ONE MILE TO REPLACE 1 1 11 FOOT LANE MILE OF CONCRETE PAVEMENT IS ABOUT A MILLION TO A MILLION A HALF DOLLARS. 
          SO THAT IS AT LEAST $6 MILLION A MILE TO REBUILD THAT ROAD AS IS, AS IN THAT CONFIGURATION WHEN YOU WHOOPS, WHEN YOU NARROW IT DOWN. 
          THAT'S, AND THINK ABOUT THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF 31 OR 33 FOOT RESIDENTIAL STREETS TOO. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT I SOMETIMES I, YOU KNOW, I'LL DRIVE, ESPECIALLY LIKE COLLECTORS THAT ARE 38 OR 40 3D DIFFERENT WIDTHS THERE, THERE'S EXTRA PAYMENT THERE THAT IT IS WIDER FOR THE, THE POLICE AND FIRE. 
          BUT I SEE THE DOLLARS TO IT AND I'M JUST LIKE, IT'S JUST CRAZY. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE, THE FISCAL ANALYSIS, UH, THE OTHER DAY, AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DO THAT IS IN MOST CITIES WE SHOW YOU'VE GOT A, THEY'LL HAVE AN UNPRODUCTIVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN TERMS OF THE TAX VALUE PER ACRE, AND THEY HAVE A TON OF INFRASTRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY STREET COSTS BECAUSE THE ROADS HAVE GOTTEN WIDER AND WIDER AND WIDER. 
          ADDISON IS THE OPPOSITE. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE BUILT THAT COMPACT PATTERN. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE A TON OF OVERLY WIDE STREETS TO BE HONEST. 
          UM, EVEN THE THOROUGHFARES YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF THEM, UM, AND A COUPLE OF YOUR MAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, ACCESS ROADS OR TDOT OR THE TOLLWAY OR OTHERS. 
          SO YOU'VE BENEFITED FROM THE DIFFERENT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT YOU HAVE FISCALLY, WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVE SOME OF THE RESOURCES THAT YOU DO TO DO, TO DO OTHER THINGS. 
          BUT I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK TO THE, THE POINT THAT LIZ MADE AND UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE VISION STORY HERE, UM, I KNOW THERE'S FOLKS THERE, THERE'S DEFINITELY A GROUP OF FOLKS IN ADDISON THAT DOESN'T THINK ABOUT WE'RE NOT THE MOST AFFORDABLE PLACE. 
          ADDISON IS NOT GOING TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE FOR EVERYONE. 
          YOU, YOU'RE KIND OF PAST THAT PLACE. 
          IT'S KIND OF LIKE MANHATTAN IS NOT, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE. 
          YOU, YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT LEVEL THERE. 
          UM, BUT YOU DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY BE ATTRACTIVE AND AFFORDABLE FOR A SIGNIFICANT SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION THAT'S GETTING PRICED OUT OF THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND OTHER, UM, IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD YOU ARE, HOW OLD YOU ARE, UM, I THINK WE CAN MAKE A, A PRETTY STRONG CASE THAT THAT QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ANYBODY, UM, WOULD IMPROVE IF WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE ANY NEIGHBORHOOD IN ADDISON OR ALL OF NEIGHBOR OF ADDISON A LITTLE MORE WALKABLE, I DON'T THINK IN THE NEAR TERM WE CAN'T DO THAT. 
          UM, COMPLETE. 
          WE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GO ANYTIME SOON AS IN ADDISON OR ANYWHERE ELSE IN NOR TEXAS. 
          YOU'RE NOT JUST GONNA SAY BYE TO THE CAR AND PIVOT OVER HERE. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A GRADUAL EVOLUTION CH YOU KNOW, KIND OF CHANGE, BUT YOU'VE GOTTA START TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHERE, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO WANNA MAKE THESE CHOICES AND MAKE PLACES MORE WALK WALKABLE AND BIKEABLE AND START TO GET THE BUSINESSES AND DEVELOPMENT AROUND IT THAT, THAT WANT, THAT KIND OF OF INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO I DO WANT TO KEEP US, UM, I DO WANNA KEEP US MOVING IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN OTHER KIND OF EXAMPLES. 
          UM, I CAN SHARE THESE. 
          I FORGOT. 
          I GOTTA COME BACK TO ABBY , THEN WE'LL GO TO THE EXERCISE. 
          . 
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OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS ON THIS. 
          IT'S GREAT. 
          ONE, WHAT WAS THEIR ROI OR HOW LONG DID IT TAKE THEM TO SEE A, A PAYBACK FROM THE INVESTMENT IN DOING THIS CONCEPT IN THE INCREASE IN TAX REVENUES AS WELL AS JUST THE EVENT SPACE THEY CREATED? I MEAN, THAT'S A DESTINATION WHICH I WOULD THINK HAD MADE THEIR PAYBACK NUMBER OF MONTHS OR YEARS SHRINK. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          I DO KNOW THAT 96% TAX REVENUE INCREASE, BUT YEAH, IT HAS BECOME, THEY, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A PLACE WENT FROM LIKE THE COST CENTER TO ACTUALLY A PROFIT CENTER. 
          OH, IT'S A HUGE PROFIT CENTER FOR 'EM NOW. 
          RIGHT? SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IS YOU'RE NOT JUST CREATING COST AND IT'S SOMETHING, OH, IT'S PRETTY, YOU'RE CREATING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE REVENUE IN THE FUTURE AND BE ONGOING IF, AND THEN THE TRAFFIC, I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A STREAM. 
          IF THERE ARE BOULDERS IN THE WAY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO AROUND IT, THEY'RE GOING TO FIND TRINITY MILLS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, SIX LANES AND WIDE OPEN. 
          THE, THE BEAUTY OF A GRIDDED SYSTEM VERSUS, I CALL IT THE SUBURBAN LOOPS AND LOLLIPOPS WITH THE CUL-DE-SACS AND ALL THAT IS WHEN YOU HAVE A GRID SYSTEM, HAS ANYBODY EVER USED GOOGLE MAPS OR WAYS OR ONE OF THOSE, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET SOMEWHERE, YOU PLUG IT IN, RIGHT? AND WHAT HAPPENS IF A ROAD IS CLOSED OR A BLOCK IS CLOSED? IT TELLS YOU ANOTHER WAY TO GO, RIGHT? AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'LL TELL YOU A FASTER WAY THAT, LIKE, YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT, THAT BEFORE GOOGLE MAPS AND WHAT, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO, WE ALL JUST WENT THE WAY THAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA GO, RIGHT? BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A GRIDDED SYSTEM LIKE THAT, YOU ALWAYS HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET PLACES OTHER SIDE OF THAT. 
          YOUR POLICE AND FIRE HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS TO GET PLACES TOO. 
          WHEN YOU DESIGN CUL-DE-SAC CUL-DE-SACS ARE FROM A PUBLIC SERVICE STANDPOINT, THEY'RE THE MOST INEFFICIENT THING YOU CAN BUILD. 
          I MIGHT HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT FROM FIRE RESPONSE, TRASH COLLECTION, UTILITY SERVICE, WATER METERS, EVERYTHING, THEY GOTTA GO, THEY GOTTA DRIVE DOWN AN EXTRA, YOU KNOW, EXTRA THING. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF COST SAVE. 
          BUT, BUT TO ABBY'S POINT, YES, THIS BECAME A HUGE ECONOMIC GENERATOR FOR, IT'S A TOURIST DESTINATION. 
          THEY DO ALL KINDS OF STUFF HERE NOW. 
          UM, AND ALL OF THE BUSINESSES ON THERE WILL TELL YOU THEIR TRAFFIC IS SKYROCKETED FROM WHAT THEY HAD BEFORE. 
          I DON'T KNOW, IT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING TO TALK TO ALL OF THE BUSINESSES ALONG BELTLINE AND GET THEIR THOUGHTS ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          BUT YOU, I CAN SAY, IF YOU THINK ABOUT ADDISON 20 YEARS AGO AND DRIVING DOWN BELTLINE AND HOW VIBRANT ALL THOSE RESTAURANTS WERE, AND YOU DRIVE DOWN BELTLINE TODAY, IT LOOKS A LITTLE TIRED, ACTUALLY. 
          IT LOOKS A LOT . 
          SO, UM, SO GOOD DISCUSSION. 
          JUST IT IS, IT IS POSSIBLE. 
          THERE'S WAYS TO GET THROUGH THESE, UM, THESE THINGS. 
          AND I THINK ADDISON IS ONE OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT COULD PULL STUFF LIKE THIS, THIS OFF. 
          SO, UM, FOR OUR, UM, FOR OUR EXERCISE, OH, I HAD ONE MORE PICTURE OF IT. 
          HUH? I DIDN'T EVEN SHOW YOU ALL THAT. 
          SO THERE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE SOME OF THE ANGLED PARKING IN THE MIDDLE THERE. 
          UM, CALIFORNIA IS HOT JUST LIKE WE ARE. 
          SO THE STREET TREES MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, UM, AS WELL. 
          UM, OKAY, SO TO SUM UP WHAT JEFF TALKED ABOUT, WALKING NEEDS TO BE USEFUL, SAFE, COMFORTABLE, AND INTERESTING. 
          UM, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA SEE AN EXERCISE ON YOUR TABLE, AND THIS IS THE LAST THING THAT WE HAVE TO, TO DO TO, SO YOU CAN GET, DO THIS EXERCISE AND THEN, UM, WE ARE GONNA, I GUESS, FORMALLY HAVE TO CLOSE THE MEETING. 
          SO HERE'S, UM, HERE'S THE DIRECTIONS FOR YOU. 
          SO GRAB A, UH,  AND GET TO THE MASK GAME. 
          UH, PICK A MARKER. 
          MAKE SURE YOU USE THIS. 
          JUST USE THE SAME COLOR FOR ALL OF YOUR NOTES. 
          UM, THERE'S A STACK OF, UH, HANDOUTS THERE. 
          WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO IS USE ONE HANDOUT FOR EACH ROUTE, UM, THAT YOU PICK. 
          AND SO WE WANT YOU TO PICK, PICK A ROUTE SOMEWHERE IN THE CITY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE WITHOUT A CAR, UM, BUT ARE UNABLE TO OR CHOOSE NOT TO. 
          UM, AND I'LL LEAVE THESE INSTRUCTIONS UP HERE. 
          YOU CAN DO AS MANY ROUTES AS YOU WANT. 
          UM, SOME IF YOU JUST FEEL REALLY STRONGLY ABOUT ONE OR TWO, KNOCK THOSE OUT. 
          IF YOU WANT TO DO MORE, UM, YOU CAN BUT LABEL, UH, FOR EACH OF THESE, LABEL THE ROUTE WITH YOUR INITIALS AND A NUMBER. 
          SO ON THE MAP, KIND OF DRAW, DRAW A LINE WHERE THE ROUTE IS, LABEL IT WITH YOUR NUMBER AND INITIAL, AND THEN FILL OUT THE WORKSHEET FOR THAT, UH, FOR THAT ROUTE ONE SHEET. 
          OR DO ONE SHEET FOR EACH ROUTE. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE THREE ROUTES, YOU'LL FILL OUT THREE SHEETS. 
          AND SO YOU DO YOUR INITIALS DASH ONE, DASH TWO DASH THREE. 
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SO THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO WIND ALL KINDS OF DAMN PROBLEMS. LETTUCE. 
          THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TEAR OUT TREES AROUND THE, ABOUT THE PART THAT'S NOT ON ALL THAT'S UNDER ENCORE. 
          THIS PACK IS, THAT'S ALL THE EASEMENT. 
          I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT IT TURNED LEFT. 
          I THOUGHT IT TURNED THIS WAY. 
          THIS, THIS, THIS IS WHERE THE, THIS IS. 
          YES, BECAUSE WE PUT THIS IN WHEN THEY BUILT THIS FUEL, WE HELL AND TALK TO THE BOARD TO GET THEM, TO ALLOW US TO PUT THAT PATCH DOWN HERE. 
          AND I REMEMBER THEY WERE LIKE, WE COULDN'T PLANT GRASS BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T LET US PUT IRRIGATION IN. 
          WE HAD TO RID OF A PARK THERE. 
          IT WAS LIKE, THERE WAS A ROUNDABOUT RIGHT HERE. 
          WE HAD TO MOVE THE PARK. 
          OH, WOW. 
          WE HAD TO MOVE THE PARK THAT WAS OVER WHERE? MAYBE HERE CONTINUATION. 
          SEE, THE THING IS, IF WE CAN, THAT GETS A LOT. 
          CAN, IT COULD BE THIS, THIS CONNECT THIS, CONNECT OVER THIS IS, THIS IS A PATH THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE END OF THE TRU RIGHT HERE. 
          THIS IS THE KNOWLEDGE RIGHT THERE. 
          THIS IS COMES BY WHERE IS, WHERE IS NO CART, WHERE THE CIRCLE WHERE THE PARKING LOTS BEHIND BY THE TRU. 
          THERE IS A ROAD THAT JUST GOT CUT IN THERE. 
          OH, THAT'S SO GOES, COMES OUTTA A TRUVIA, ISN'T IT? IT COMES RIGHT HERE. 
          SO HERE'S BELLA'S RIGHT HERE. 
          SO THIS, THIS COMES OFF THE MAIN, THIS IS A, HERE'S THE MAIN ROAD, HERE'S A CIRCLE. 
          THIS GOES INTO COLLEGE. 
          AND THIS COMES INTO, SO I, I USED TO GO, I GO ACROSS , THEY GET DOWN TO THE US LAWS, THE RIGHT I, OR IF THEY EXTEND. 
          SO THIS PATH IS ALREADY GET, WE COULD EXTEND THAT. 
          THAT'S, YOU CAN SIGN YOUR INTO IT. 
          YOU CAN DOUBLE JUST SCRIBBLING. 
          WE AGREED. 
          THERE'S NOTHING WE DO WITH 
          [01:05:01]
COOPERATION. 
          WHAT DO WE, HERE'S A, THIS IS ACTUALLY TURNED DOWN A PARKING LOT, SO YOU HAVE TO DO SOME, YOU HAVE TO DO SOME. 
          YOU'RE WHINING AROUND. 
          OKAY, EVERYBODY, UM, IF YOU GUYS CAN KINDA WRAP UP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND UM, WE CAN, UH, AJOUR NOT EVEN A SIDEWALK. 
          NO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WHILE WE'RE, UH, SORT OF WRAPPING ON THAT, I WANT TO, UH, INVITE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WANTS TO SPEAK, UH, TO ANYTHING, UH, TO SPEAK NOW. 
          SO ANYONE THAT WANTS TO TALK TO THE COMMITTEE, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE. 
          KEVIN HAS ANOTHER SLIDE. 
          KEVIN HAS ANOTHER SLIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, SO SEEING NONE, UH, NOBODY THAT WANTS TO SPEAK, I'LL SORT OF CLOSE THAT ITEM. 
          KEVIN, YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? JUST THIS SLIDE, THAT'S THE NEXT STEPS. 
          UM, WE'RE WORKING ON THE DRAFT MAPS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY COMMU COMMUNITY MEETING IN JUNE. 
          WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA DO IT, UM, A MOVIE STYLE NIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE POPCORN AND SHOW THAT SAME EXACT VIDEO TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY THAT COMES. 
          UM, AND THEN THERE'LL BE A COUPLE OF STATIONS. 
          THIS IS ONE, THERE'LL BE A COUPLE OF OTHER STATIONS AS WELL TO GET INPUT ON THAT. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT A JOINT MEETING WITH CPAC P AND Z AND COUNCIL, UM, TOGETHER, THAT'LL BE ANOTHER KIND OF A, A HYBRID WHERE WE DO A LITTLE BIT OF A UPDATE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE COVERED SO FAR. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO LOOK TO GET SOME INPUT ON THOSE PRELIMINARY RECOMMENDATIONS AND PRIORITIES THERE. 
          AND THEN AS WE MOVE INTO THE LATTER PART OF JULY AND AUGUST, WE'LL BE DOING THOSE TOPIC SPECIFIC FOCUS GROUPS THAT ALL OF YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PICK DIFFERENT AREAS THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN AND HELP US OUT WITH SOME OF THOSE. 
          SO APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, INPUT. 
          AND I KNOW SUE WANTS TO CLOSE THE MEETING, BUT WE'LL STICK AROUND FOR A WHILE FOR ANYBODY ELSE THAT ASK QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY? ALRIGHT, WE'RE ADJOURN. 
          OH, OH, SORRY. 
          YOU DID WANNA SAY SOMETHING? THE, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S NO JUNE, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          YEAH, THERE WERE, THERE WERE SOME SCHEDULE CONFLICTS, SO I'LL JUST ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO COME TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING IN JUNE. 
          BUT THE, THE OFFICIAL CPAC MEETING IS GONNA BE COMBINED WITH P AND Z AND CPAC IN JULY. 
          OKAY. 
          WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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