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I'M GONNA CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT THAT'S BEEN CONFIRMED.
I'M GONNA START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[1. Consider action on the minutes from the March 20, 2024, Comprehensive Plan Advisory Committee Meeting.]
THANK YOU.OUR FIRST ITEM, UM, IS, UH, THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING.
UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES, EDITS, ANY ISSUES WITH THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING? SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.
THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
[2. Present and discuss the Advance Addison revised draft vision story and place types materials. ]
UH, OUR NEXT ITEM IS TO, UH, DISCUSS THE, UH, REVISED DRAFT VISION STORY.AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA TALK ABOUT PLACE TYPES, MATERIAL, UM, PLACE TYPES.
SO, KEVIN, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
HOW MANY OF THESE HAVE WE HAD? AND I FORGOT TO PUSH THE GREEN BUTTON.
UH, AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA GET STRAIGHT IN TONIGHT.
I KNOW WE'VE GOT A HARD STOP AT, AT EIGHT O'CLOCK, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME TIME FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT.
SO, UM, TWO THINGS, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.
UM, VISION AND PLACE TYPES AS, UH, AS SUE JUST MENTIONED.
UM, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, JUST TO AGAIN, HELP YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.
EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN UP TO, TO NOW HAS BEEN LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY, ALL THE INTERVIEWS, THE SURVEYS, TALKING WITH STAFF, UM, TALKING WITH YOU ALL, ITERATING ON SOME OF THE ASSETS AND VALUES, ASPIRATION STUFF, ULTIMATELY TO GET TO THIS VISION STORY.
UM, AND WE'RE IN THE PLACE WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING TO MOVE BEYOND THE VISION AND THINK OF HOW, WHAT ARE WE GONNA START TO DO TO ACTUALLY ACHIEVE THAT VISION.
UM, AND I, I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT IT FEELS LIKE WE GOT AT THE LAST MEETING AND THEN, UM, IN THIS LATEST ROUND ARE GETTING INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THE HOW WE'RE GONNA ACCOMPLISH THIS.
UM, AND SO JUST KNOW THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE'RE GONNA START TO DIG INTO SOME OF THE HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD STRATEGIES, THE MOBILITY STRATEGIES, UM, THAT SUPPORT, UM, THE, THE VISION STORY THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, UM, TONIGHT.
SO WE'RE REALLY IN THE KIND OF STRADDLING THAT, LOOKING BACKWARDS AND ASSESSING EVERYTHING.
UM, WE'RE RIGHT NOW TO, TO KIND OF TRY TO LOCK IN ON OUR VISION STORY.
AND THEN WE'RE FROM HERE FORWARD, WE'RE GONNA BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE STRATEGIES, UM, TO ACHIEVE THE, UH, THE VISION.
SO, SO VISION, STORY, REVIEW, PLACE, TYPE, UH, INTRODUCTION, AND THEN, UM, NEXT STEPS.
UM, OKAY, SO WHERE DOES THE VISION STORY FIT IN THIS PROCESS? UM, THE FIRST THING I WANNA GO BACK AND JUST RECAP IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS MOSTLY ABOUT DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY.
SO SOME, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE ADDISON WAY, UH, THE PEOPLE OF ADDISON, THE SERVICES THAT THE CITY PROVIDES OR THAT THE TOWN PROVIDES.
THOSE ARE ALL VERY IMPORTANT IN THEIR ASPECTS OF, OF ADDISON.
THAT MAKES ADDISON SPECIAL, NO DOUBT.
UH, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GONNA FIND MORE IN A TOWN STRATEGIC PLAN.
THE, THE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL WORKS ON AT THE TOWN WIDE OR THE CITYWIDE LEVEL, UM, THEY'RE NOT ALL RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE YOU DEVELOPING? WHAT ARE YOU BUILDING, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IT TAKES TO SUPPORT IT.
SO I WANTED TO KIND OF MAKE THAT DIFFER THAT THAT DIFFERENTIATION OR THAT CLARIFICATION BETWEEN WHAT IS A, IN THE CITYWIDE PLAN VERSUS STRATEGIC PLAN, VERSUS WHAT'S GOING IN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, THE VALUES, ASSETS, ASPIRATIONS.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE DID THE SURVEYS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE DID ALL THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND, AND THE, THE POPUPS TO, TO GET INPUT.
UM, SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE HAVE COMMENTED ON SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT OF THAT LIST.
UM, SOME OF THOSE, AS I JUST MENTIONED, ARE RELATED TO THINGS MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY, UH, THAT AFFECT, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, BUT WHAT WE SUMMARIZED FOR YOU, FOR YOU ALL IN THAT PACKET IS, IS KIND OF THE COLLECTIVE WHAT ROSE UP FROM THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS THE, UM, AS KIND OF THE TOP VALUES, ASPECTS AND ASPIRATIONS.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S OTHER, THAT THERE AREN'T OTHERS, UM, AND IN THE PLAN ITSELF WILL EXPAND ON SOME OF THOSE OTHER, UH, SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS.
UM, BUT THE VISION STORY, THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE, UM, THE, THE, THE PAST OF ADDISON, THE, THE THINGS THAT ADDISON HAS DONE WELL TO
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THIS POINT.UM, WHAT'S PUT YOU IN THE POSITION THAT YOU, THAT YOU ARE IN TODAY? UM, BUT MORE SO KIND OF THINKING INTO THE FUTURE.
WHAT'S THE, WHAT IS ADDISON 20, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS, UH, FROM NOW, 20, 25 YEARS FROM NOW, NEED TO BE TO CONTINUE TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND ACHIEVE SOME OF THESE.
UM, STICK WITH SOME OF THE, THE, THE ASSETS AND VALUES THAT YOU HAVE, BUT ALSO ACHIEVE SOME OF THE ASPIRATIONS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AS, AS WELL.
AND THEN WHEN WE GO FORWARD, THAT'S GONNA, UM, THAT WILL DRIVE WHAT WE CALL DECISION MAKING PRINCIPLES, WHICH IT COULD BE WE'RE DESIGNING FOR PEOPLE OVER CARS.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR EVERYONE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF BROAD STATEMENTS THAT WE'RE GONNA TIE THE REST OF THE PLAN BACK TO.
UM, SO SOME OF THE THINGS AS, AS WE GET INTO THE VISION STORY TONIGHT, JUST KNOW THAT SOME OF THE MORE DETAILED THINGS OF HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THIS RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION OR HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT TO HOUSING ARE GONNA COME IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DISCUSSIONS, UM, AS WELL.
SO EVERYBODY HAS BEEN ASKING, YOU KNOW, WHY JUST WALKABILITY? WHY IS THERE SO MUCH EMPHASIS ON WALKABILITY? WHY IS THAT THAT WORD SO IMPORTANT? UM, YOU ALL GOT A, A PACKET AHEAD OF TIME THAT HAD THE, THE LAST ROUND OF COMMENTS THAT, UH, THAT WE WERE RECEIVED THAT WERE EMAILED TO, TO JADE.
I THINK THERE WERE SIX DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT, THAT SENT COMMENTS IN.
UM, AND, UM, I'LL GO, I'LL TALK THROUGH ALL OF THESE, BUT, UM, AS WE THINK ABOUT WALKABILITY, THE CPAC NUMBER, NUMBER FOUR, AND I'M NOT GONNA PUT ANYBODY ON THE SPOT ON ON WHO SAID WHAT, BUT CPAC MEMBER NUMBER FOUR DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF EXPANDING WHAT OUR TEAM'S VISION, WHAT WE MEANT BY WALKABILITY AND WHY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BUILD A WALKABLE COMMUNITY, ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS KIND OF COME IN UNDERNEATH IT.
IT IS BIKEABLE, IT DOES HAVE TRANSIT, IT IS A SAFE SPACE.
IT DOES HAVE A, THE GOOD PUBLIC REALM AND THE TREES AND THE PARKS AND THE PUBLIC SPACES.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS COME INTO, COME INTO A PLAY FOR A, UH, FOR A WALKABLE CITY OR A WALKABLE COMMUNITY.
OUR, OUR INTENT WITH THE FIRST VISION THAT CAME OUT, UM, WAS REALLY CAPTURED IN, IN THOSE COMMENTS.
UM, AND THE REASON WHY I THINK IF, IF WE TRY TO DIFFERENTIATE, WE, IF YOU REMEMBER BACK A, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO WHEN TONY WAS PRESENTING SOME OF THE PEER COMMUNITIES IN THE PEER PLACES, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LEGACY WEST.
AND WHAT, THESE ARE PLACES THAT I WOULD SAY ARE, ARE MORE LIKE WALKABLE MIXED USE NODES.
OR IF YOU THINK ABOUT LEGACY IN PARTICULAR, IT'S A PLACE WHERE YOU DRIVE TO, YOU PARK IN A PARKING GARAGE, YOU CAN GET OUT, YOU CAN, YOU CAN WORK FOR THE DAY, OR YOU CAN LIVE AND PLAY FOR A LITTLE BIT.
THEN YOU GET IN YOUR CAR AND YOU DRIVE HOME.
SO IT'S A WALKABLE PLACE IN THE MIDDLE OF A MORE AUTOCENTRIC KIND OF CITY PLANO, RIGHT? CONTRAST THAT WITH ADDISON BEING A TRULY WALKABLE COMMUNITY.
SO YOU CAN GET ANYWHERE YOU NEED TO GO 24 7, 365 WITHOUT A CAR.
THAT'S THE DI YOU'RE A TRULY WALKABLE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES ADDISON SPECIAL.
THERE'S VERY FEW PLACES IN TEXAS, UM, THAT EVEN HAVE A SHOT AT DOING THAT.
SO THAT'S, IF I WAS GONNA TRY TO SUMMARIZE THE VISION IN MY WORDS, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY ACHIEVE THAT? THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE TO MAKE A COMMUNITY TRULY WALKABLE FOR ALL DIFFERENT GENERATIONS AND PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT TYPES.
DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T STILL DRIVE.
YOU ABSOLUTELY STILL CAN, YOU KNOW, CAN STILL DRIVE IN A PLACE LIKE THAT.
BUT THERE'S DECISIONS YOU HAVE TO MAKE IN TERMS OF HOW YOU'RE USING THE STREET RIGHT AWAY, HOW YOU'RE DESIGNING YOUR TRAIL SYSTEM.
SO TO BUILD ON THAT, THE, AGAIN, THE, THE CPAC MEMBER QUOTED SOME THINGS FROM JEFF SPEC'S BOOK, WHICH, UM, JEFF IS A LEADER IN OUR FIELD.
HE'S WELL KNOWN INTERNATIONALLY ABOUT, UH, TALKING ABOUT WALKABLE CITIES.
WALKABLE CITY WAS THE FIRST ONE, JUST HAD THE 10 YEAR, UH, 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY EDITION COME OUT A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
AND THEN WALKABLE CITY RULES IS HIS NEWER BOOK THAT HAS A LOT MORE, UM, PICTURES AND INCREMENTAL, KIND OF SMALLER STEPS OF HOW TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT, BUT THERE'S FOUR THINGS THAT HE TALKS ABOUT TO MAKE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY.
AND I WANT YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE GO BACK TO THE VISION STATEMENT.
THE FIRST THING, FOR A COMMUNITY TO, TO BE WALKABLE WALKING HAS TO BE USEFUL.
OKAY? YOU HAVE TO PUT CARS IN THEIR PLACE.
NOBODY RIGHT NOW IS GONNA WALK ACROSS BELTLINE OR ANYWHERE NEAR BELTLINE, RIGHT? UM, YOU HAVE TO MIX THE USES.
YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET TO MOST OF YOUR DAILY NEEDS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE.
YOU HAVE TO GET THE PARKING RIGHT.
I, I HEARD THERE WAS A DISCUSSION JUST THE OTHER NIGHT ABOUT THE TOD, RIGHT? AND TALKING ABOUT, AND, AND RON WHITEHEAD, FORMER MAYOR, UM, KNOWS EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT ADDISON, I THINK, UM, MENTIONED AT THAT MEETING THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAYBE THEY MIGHT HAVE MESSED UP WITH ADDISON CIRCLE WAS THE IDEA OF THE PARKING GARAGE.
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TO COME AND PARK IN THE PARKING GARAGE, PEOPLE WHO THEY WOULD DRIVE AROUND, THEY DIDN'T SEE A PARKING SPOT RIGHT NEXT TO THE BUSINESS THEY WANTED TO GO TO.AND INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE GARAGE AND WALKING THERE, THEY WOULD JUST LEAVE AND GO.
SO SOME, AND HE'S, HE'S RIGHT TO, TO AN EXTENT THAT MORE ON STREET PARKING IN ADDISON CIRCLE OR ANY PLACE, UM, IS, IS GOING TO HELP.
UM, BUT THE WAY YOU DESIGN PARKING AND WHERE YOU PUT IT ALSO HELPS WITH WALKABILITY TOO.
IT CAN BE, PARKING CAN BE A SHIELD FOR CYCLISTS OR, OR A SHIELD FOR PEOPLE ON THE, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE SIDEWALK OR IN OUTDOOR CAFES.
THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF THINGS THERE THAT, UH, THAT ARE IMPORTANT.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS LET TRANSIT WORK.
HE SAYS IN THE BOOK, HE TALKS ABOUT HE CAN HAVE A WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT TRANSIT, BUT YOU CANNOT HAVE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY WITHOUT IT.
SO PART OF WALKABILITY IS ALSO THE, THE INTERNAL CIRCULATOR, THE TRANSIT SYSTEM THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
IF YOU REALLY WANT ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY IN ADDISON TO GET AROUND WITHOUT A CAR, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE SOME KIND OF CIRCULATOR SYSTEM.
'CAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IS GONNA WANT, NOT EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE ABLE TO WALK EVERYWHERE IN ADDISON.
AND NOR IS EVERYBODY GONNA WANT OR BE ABLE TO RIDE A BIKE EVERYWHERE IN ADDISON.
BUT MOST PEOPLE COULD AND WOULD GET ON A, A TRANSIT, SOME COMBINATION OF THOSE TO GET WHERE THEY HAD TO, TO DO IF IT WAS A QUALITY SYSTEM.
AND A LOT OF THE COMMENTS DID SUPPORT SOME KIND OF CIRCULATOR SYSTEM AS WELL.
SO WALKING HAS TO HAVE A PURPOSE.
IT CAN'T JUST BE JUST THE RECREATIONAL, UH, WALKING.
WHEN WE SAY WALKABILITY IN THE, IN THE CONTEXT OF ADDISON IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST THE RECREATIONAL WALKING.
THE SECOND ONE IS WALKING HAS TO BE SAFE, RIGHT? UM, I'M NOT GONNA LET MY DAUGHTER OR MY YOUNGER SON WALK ANYWHERE.
UM, THAT IS DESIGNED PRIMARILY AROUND CARS.
EVEN IN OUR, EVEN IN OUR SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, MOST OF THE MOMS WON'T LET THE KIDS WALK OR RIDE BIKES.
'CAUSE THE CARS SCREAM DOWN THE STREETS AT 50 MILES AN HOUR.
TWO THINGS YOU HAVE TO PROTECT, PROTECT THE PEDESTRIANS, AND YOU HAVE TO WELCOME BIKES.
UM, ONLY THE DIEHARDS ARE GONNA RIDE BIKES IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS DESIGNED FOR CARS.
UM, BUT IF YOU DO DESIGN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS WALKABLE, IF IT'S COMFORTABLE FOR PEOPLE WALKING, IT'S USUALLY GONNA BE COMFORTABLE FOR PEOPLE CYCLING AS WELL.
UM, THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE IN TEXAS, I BELIEVE.
IT'S GOTTA BE COMFORTABLE, RIGHT? IT'S GOTTA BE COMFORTABLE.
AND THAT MEANS NOT 180 DEGREES
YOU KNOW HOW YOU CAN DROP THE TEMPERATURE ABOUT 20 DEGREES TREES SHADE.
UM, A FEW YEARS AGO, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I TOLD Y'ALL THIS STORY, BUT A FEW YEARS AGO WE WERE IN, I WAS DOWN IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS AND WAS WALKING TO A CONFERENCE AND PARKED IN A PARKING LOT.
AND A, A GUY THAT, UH, A COLLEAGUE OF OURS WAS DOING A, HE WAS DOING A GRAD PAPER ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT AND ALL THAT.
SO HE HAD A LITTLE THERMOMETER STUFF AND WE'RE OUT IN THE PARKING LOT.
HE DID IT, IT WAS LIKE 104 DEGREES.
WE WALKED LIKE 10 MINUTES INTO THE ARTS DISTRICT, FULL SHADE AND ALL THAT.
IT WENT DOWN TO 82 DEGREES IN THE SHADE IN JUNE.
SO TWO THINGS, AND I'M GONNA PUT 'EM IN REVERSE.
TREES, TREES, TREES, TREES, TREES, TREES, RIGHT? CONCRETE AND PAVEMENT.
RAISE THE TEMPERATURE TREES COOLS IT DOWN.
BUT THE SECOND PART IS SHAPING THE SPACES.
SO IF YOU WANT A COMFORTABLE WALK, WHAT, WHAT ABOUT CROSSING? BELTLINE IS COMFORTABLE RIGHT NOW.
THE DISTANCE YOU HAVE TO CROSS IS 120 FEET, RIGHT? THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S COMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT.
FLIP THAT EVEN IN A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, IF YOU CAN NARROW THE DISTANCE THAT YOU HAVE TO CROSS, IT STARTS TO BECOME A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE.
UM, THERE'S ALSO SOME BUILDING.
YOU GOTTA FRAME THE STREET WITH BUILDINGS.
IF, IF YOU'RE WALKING IN A STREET AND YOU'VE GOT 20, 30 STORY SKYSCRAPERS AROUND YOU IN A REALLY NARROW STREET, THAT'S NOT GONNA FEEL COMFORTABLE.
UM, AT THE SAME TIME, IF IT'S TOO WIDE, THAT ALSO DOESN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE.
SO ADDISON CIRCLE IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF A GOOD COMBINATION OF SHAPING THE SPACES TO FEEL COMFORTABLE FOR PEOPLE.
YOU HAVE THE SHADE IN THE PAVEMENT MIX.
SO A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT ADDISON CIRCLE WORK.
THERE'S NO REASON THAT THE REST OF ADDISON, OR MOST OF ADDISON COULDN'T BE MORE LIKE THIS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A COUPLE OF THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE GONNA, THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY, THEY'RE GONNA PRIMARILY STAY SINGLE FAMILY.
HAS TO BE INTERESTING, RIGHT? YOU
AND FOR THAT TO BE A BUSY PLACE, UM, YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE FRIENDLY AND UNIQUE FACES.
I PUT BUILDING FACES IN THERE 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY MEAN.
YOU, YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE BUILDINGS INTERESTING.
IF YOU'RE WALKING ALONG A STREET AND NOTHING, AND ALL YOU SEE IS VACANT STOREFRONTS, THAT'S NOT INTERESTING, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE WALKING AROUND
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AND EVEN A VACANT STOREFRONT HAS A SIGN OR SOME PUBLIC ART OR SOMETHING IN THERE THAT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, BE INTERESTING TO YOU, YOU'LL WALK, UH, YOU'LL WALK MORE.UM, THE SECOND PART IS REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TEXAS PLACES.
UM, EVEN IN ADDISON, THAT IS MORE WALKABLE AND, AND HUMAN SCALE THAN MOST PLACES.
UM, NOT EVERYWHERE IN THE TOWN IS GONNA BE COMPLETELY WALKABLE, BUT I, I WOULD ARGUE, AND WE'LL SHOW SOME EXAMPLES WHEN WE GET TO OUR MOBILITY DISCUSSION, THAT EVEN BELTLINE ROAD, EVEN BELTLINE ROAD, CAN BE MADE WALKABLE.
UM, AND WE'VE GOT SOME EXAMPLES FROM SOME OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE TAKEN SIX LANE ROADS JUST LIKE BELTLINE AND TRANSFORMED IT INTO THE HEART OF THEIR CITY, WHERE CARS STILL DRIVE THROUGH, BUT THEY DRIVE SLOW.
UM, AND IT'S MUCH MORE ABOUT, UH, PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A DECISION ON ADDISON'S PART OF, DO WE WANNA MAKE BELTLINE ROAD A PLACE TO DRIVE TO, OR A PLACE TO DRIVE THROUGH? AND RIGHT NOW IT'S A PLACE TO DRIVE THROUGH ADDISON.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL GET INTO, WE'LL GET INTO THAT LATER, BUT JUST KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH THESE THINGS, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT, THAT ADDISON, UM, WANTS TO GO.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WALKABILITY, WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT A WALKABLE COMMUNITY, A A TOWN THAT TO, TO USE CPAC MEMBER FOUR.
BUT A TOWN THAT'S CONNECTED TO ITSELF, YOU KNOW, EVERYWHERE IS CONNECTED TO EACH OTHER.
THE PEOPLE ARE CONNECTED TO EACH OTHER.
UM, AND WHEN YOU'RE WALKABLE, EVERYTHING ELSE COMES WITH IT.
'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE THINGS YOU WANT TO, YOU WANNA BOIL IT DOWN TO ONE THING.
SO FROM A WALKABLE COMMUNITY, WALKING'S GOTTA BE USEFUL.
IT'S GOTTA BE SAFE, IT'S GOTTA BE COMFORTABLE, AND IT'S GOTTA BE INTERESTING.
UM, OKAY, SO WE CAME OUT WITH A FIRST VERSION OF, OF THE VISION STORY, UM, THAT WAS, HAD SOME WALKABILITY AND BIKEABILITY MIXED IN THERE.
AND SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WAS, LET'S PULL THE BIKEABILITY OUT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A CONCERN, MAYBE IT WAS A LITTLE TOO HEAVY ON THE BIKEABILITY.
THERE WERE SOME OTHER REALLY GOOD COMMENTS ABOUT INTEGRATING MORE OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE, THE ECONOMICS OF EVERYTHING.
UM, THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS THAT WENT A LITTLE BIT KIND OF, UM, BACKWARDS, I GUESS I WOULD SAY, IN TERMS OF TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT, THAT ADDISON HAS ALREADY ACHIEVED AND DONE IN THE PAST, AND THE VISION THAT THAT GOT ADDISON TO, TO WHERE YOU ARE TODAY.
BUT THE VISION THAT GOT ADDISON TO HERE TODAY IS NOT THE SAME ONE THAT'S GONNA GET YOU TO BE A LEADER IN 2050.
UM, TO DO THAT, YOU'VE GOTTA COMMIT, WE THINK TO MORE OF THIS, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR ADDISON IS TO THE WALKABLE COMMUNITY VISION.
AND IT FEELS LIKE THE, THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM MOST OF THE COMMUNITY AND YOU ALL AND STAFF IS LEANING THAT DIRECTION.
UM, BUT I REALLY WANT TO USE TONIGHT TO, TO CONFIRM THAT.
UM, WE CAME BACK TO YOU ALL WITH A SECOND VERSION, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT'S, THAT'S UP HERE.
UM, JADE SENT IT OUT TO YOU ALL AND ASKED FOR ANOTHER ROUND.
THE LAST MEETING GAVE YOU ALL THE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK BACK BY EMAIL.
AS I MENTIONED, WE GOT SIX, SIX COMMENTS BACK.
UM, AND WE'VE ATTEMPTED TO, UH, TACKLE OR INTEGRATE OR ADDRESS, UM, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE COMMENTS IN, THERE'S IN YOUR HANDOUT THAT YOU GOT.
UM, IF YOU FLIP TO THE ONE THAT HAS THE TRACK CHANGES IN IT, THE, THE DIFFERENT COLORED GREEN AND RED.
AND, UM, WE ATTEMPTED TO INTEGRATE THOSE COMMENTS IN.
BUT BEFORE, BEFORE I TALK ABOUT THAT, I, I DID WANT TO JUST TAKE A MINUTE TO, UM, I GUESS THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS THAT WE COULD, WE COULD TACKLE THIS.
UM, ONE WAY WOULD BE TO, UH, ONE WAY WOULD BE TO TAKE THE, THE VERSION HERE THAT WITH THE TRACK CHANGES, AND JUST READ THROUGH THIS AND, AND ASK YOU ALL DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, DO ALL OF YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR COMMENTS OR YOUR OPINIONS ARE REFLECTED IN THIS, UH, THIS LATEST VERSION, UM, THAT I THINK IS THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO DO IT.
AND THEN ANYONE WHO HAS CONCERNS WITH IT, UH, WE CAN TACKLE THOSE, UH, THOSE CONCERNS TOGETHER.
UM, IF YOU WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE, I'LL TAKE JUST A FEW MORE MINUTES TO KIND OF RECAP THE, THE COMMENTS THAT WE GOT AND WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IN THIS VERSION TO ADDRESS THEM.
THE OTHER WAY THAT WE COULD DO THIS, UM, IS WE COULD SPLIT OUT BY TABLES AND LET YOU ALL LOOK AT THAT.
YOU COULD LOOK AT THE COMMENTS THAT WERE WR THAT WERE PROVIDED.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE LATEST VERSION THAT WE DID, TALK ABOUT THAT WITH YOUR TABLES, UH, FOR A LITTLE BIT.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND TALK.
I STILL THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER IF WE HAD INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE CONCERNS COME UP AND KIND OF SHARE THEIR, THEIR THOUGHTS WITH THE GROUP AND TALK ABOUT 'EM THAT WAY.
I WANT THIS TO BE MORE, YOU, YOU GUYS TALKING AND ASKING QUESTIONS THAN, UM, THAN ME.
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UM, BUT IF WE GET, LEMME PAUSE THERE.UM, WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE ME TO JUST TALK THROUGH WHAT WE DID FIRST OR WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE THE CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT IT AT YOUR TABLES FIRST? I, I THINK THE, I I THINK WE SHOULD JUST TALK AMONGST, YOU KNOW, AT THE TABLES ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
ANYBODY DISAGREE? I'M NOT SURE.
I, I AGREE WITH YOUR FIRST DIRECTION.
I, I DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF SUBSTANTIVE DISAGREEMENT IN THE COMMENTS TO, YOU KNOW, SET ME OFF TO SAY, OH MY GOSH, WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE.
MOST OF THE COMMENTS TO ME WERE CLARIFYING OR EXPANDING OR, SO I'M FINE WITH HAVING IT AS A GLOBAL CONVERSATION AS OPPOSED TO SPLITTING IT UP MY VIEW.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE US JUST TALK IN THE, AMONGST THE TABLES.
WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE A LONG TIME, BUT WHY DON'T WE JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO LOOK AT THIS, TALK INTO SMALL GROUPS AND THEN SORT OF RECONVENE, SEE WHETHER WE HAVE AGREEMENT OR DISAGREEMENT.
SO IF WE WANNA BREAK AND TALK INTO INDIVIDUAL GROUPS, THAT'S, THAT'S TOTALLY COOL.
BUT DO IT WITH THE MINDSET OF LIKE, IF, THINK FOR YOURSELF, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT CLARIFIED? BECAUSE WHEN WE COME BACK, INSTEAD OF HAVING TABLES REPORT, I WANT INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE TO COME UP AND BE ABLE TO, IF, IF YOU'RE NOT ON BOARD WITH, UM, THERE'S, AND LET ME, SO THERE'S TWO, THE VISION FOUR A AND FOUR B, THE DIFFERENCE FOUR A HAS ALL OF THE COMMENTS INCORPORATED.
AND THEN IF, UM, FOUR B THE SECOND ONE, ALL WE DID WITH THAT ONE IS CHANGE UP THE ORDER A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS TO ADJUST THE ORDER, TAKE THE LAST PARAGRAPH AND BRING IT FORWARD.
UH, ARE THEY VISION STATEMENTS? I MEAN, I KNOW YOU DO THIS ALL THE TIME.
WE DON'T LIVE IN A SOCIETY THAT WANTS TO SIT AND READ.
SO IS THIS A STANDARD SIZE, LENGTH WISE? I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE I STRUGGLE WITH THIS A LOT IS THERE'S A LOT THERE AND PEOPLE HAVE THIS BIG OF ATTENTION SPANS.
SO THE SHORT VERSION IS THE VERY, IS THAT FIRST COUPLE SENTENCES THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE, UM, THE MOST IMPORTANT PART.
THE, THE LONGER ONE IS PART OF HOW WE, UM, CONNECT THE WHOLE STORY OF THE COMP PLAN.
SO THE COMP PLAN WHEN IT'S DONE, IS GONNA TELL A STORY OF WHERE ADDISON HAS BEEN, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE HERE NOW, AND THE PEOPLE OF THE FUTURE.
AND THEN WHERE ARE YOU GONNA GET TO? SO I DON'T NECESSARILY EXPECT EVERYONE IN HERE TO REMEMBER THE ENTIRE VISION STORY AND BE ABLE TO, TO STATE IT BACK, BUT THERE'S PIECES IN HERE THAT YOU WANT COUNCIL AND, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT BACK TO LATER ON OF WHY CERTAIN DECISIONS ARE, ARE BEING MADE.
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS THAT VISION STATEMENT, WHICH, UM, WHICH WE ACTUALLY TOOK A LOT OF CPAC MEMBER FOUR'S SUGGESTIONS AND WE WORDSMITHED IT JUST A, A LITTLE BIT.
I, I'M LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD TO, TO, TO PRESENTING THIS TO, TO, TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO COUNCIL.
BECAUSE I SIT HERE AND THINK HOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA RETROFIT MELINE ROAD? MM-HMM.
BUT THEN YOU'RE GONNA DO JUST HAVE TO LIKE DENISE.
IT'S, THEN IT'S GOTTA BE REDUCED TO 10 BULLET POINTS OR LESS, LESS OF, OF WHAT THE VISION IS.
AND, AND WE'RE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR CLOSE TO THAT, I DON'T THINK, JUST FOR THE TWO MINUTES OF DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD HERE BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED.
SO I, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE LONGER DOCUMENT, BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT, THAT THE PREPARATION TO THE COMMUNITY IS GONNA HAVE TO BE VERY DIFFERENT.
AND THE PRESENTATION TO THE COMMUNITY IS GONNA HAVE TO BE VERY DIFFERENT.
WE ACTUALLY HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION LAST LAST WEEK
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WITH THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT SOME OF THIS.AND, AND THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE A LITTLE BIT, THERE'S A LOT OF EDUCATION INVOLVED.
PEOPLE NEED TO SEE IT AND SOME PEOPLE NEED TO SEE PICTURES, SOME PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR IT.
JUST, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AT THE END.
AND, AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS OUR TEAM WAS SELECTED FOR THIS IS ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS WE DO, UM, UPFRONT HAS AN EDUCATIONAL ELEMENT.
SO WE TALK ABOUT KEY PO KEY THINGS SO THAT AS COUNCIL MEMBERS CHANGE OUT, OR STAFF OR WHOMEVER, YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT.
AND IT TALKS ABOUT SOME OF THE, THE EDUCATIONAL CONTENT.
UM, WE ARE, WE HAVE AN INTERIM DOCUMENT RIGHT NOW THAT SUMMARIZES A LOT OF THE ENGAGEMENT WORK AND THE MARKET ANALYSIS THAT'S BEEN DONE THAT JADE'S REVIEWING RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE WERE JUST TALKING, I, I THINK GIVEN THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE HEARING THE CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER, I, I THINK THERE'S, THERE IS A NEED TO ELABORATE AND EDUCATE A LITTLE MORE ON WHAT A WALKABLE COMMUNITY IS TO GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE BIGGER VISION STORY.
IF I WAS GONNA BOIL IT DOWN, IT WOULD, IT WOULDN'T BE WALKABILITY ANYMORE.
IT WOULD BE A WALKABLE, WALKABLE AND CONNECTED COMMUNITY IS THE SHORT PHRASE I WOULD USE.
CONNECTED, WALKABLE, AND CONNECTED COMMUNITY.
UM, SO I WOULD SAY FOR THIS, THIS, THE, THE VISION STATEMENT, THE SHORT PARAGRAPH AT THE FRONT IS INTENDED TO, TO ENCOMPASS MOST OF THIS.
BUT AT THE END OF THE PROCESS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT EDUCATES ON A LOT OF THESE PIECES.
UM, AND THERE WILL BE, THIS IS GOING TO BE UNPACKED MORE WITH PICTURES OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT I THINK, LIZ, YOU MAKE A REALLY GOOD POINT AND DENISE TOO ABOUT IF WE'RE GONNA TAKE THIS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY ON THE VIRTUAL ROOM THAT I'M GONNA TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT AT THE END, UM, THERE'S GOTTA BE THAT CONTEXT OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT A WHAT A WALKABLE AND CONNECTED COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE.
THE THE, YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU'RE IN A DEVELOPMENT MINDSET, WHO IN THE WORLD KNOWS WHAT A MULTIMODAL MOBILITY OPTION IS AND, AND PEOPLE FIRST DESIGN, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT MY CONCERN IS, IS SELLING THIS ONCE IT GETS WRITTEN AND, AND MAKING IT, MAKING IT UNDERSTANDABLE TO SOMEONE WHO, FOR WHOM THIS IS NOT THEIR USUAL ACTIVITY.
WELL, SO LET'S, THOSE ARE, THAT'S GOOD FEEDBACK AND I THINK IT'S GOOD FEEDBACK FOR EVERYONE TO HEAR.
'CAUSE ULTIMATELY WE ARE GONNA BE TRYING TO, TO DRIVE THIS AND COMMUNICATE TO EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND SOME PEOPLE ARE GONNA RAISE THEIR HANDS LIKE TYLER AND SAY THEY KNOW WHAT MULTI SOME OF THESE WORDS WERE.
THESE WERE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED EITHER FROM STAFF OR FROM CPAC OR, SO IT, THE FIRST VERSION, WE, WE WERE TRYING TO SIMPLIFY IT DOWN TO WALKABILITY.
UM, AND THE FEEDBACK WAS, WELL WALK WALKABILITY IS, WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE JUST ABOUT WALKING.
IT NEEDS TO, SO CONNECTED IS A WORD THAT WE HEARD.
UM, AND MULTIMODAL, YOU KNOW, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES OTHER THAN A CAR IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF, A LOT OF FOLKS TOO.
BUT ABSOLUTELY, I DO REALLY HEAR AND AND UNDERSTAND THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THIS STUFF.
MARSHALL CATHERINE'S DOWN THERE FROM OUR TEAM TAKING NOTES, AND SHE CAN ATTEST MARSHALL, OUR CREATIVE DIRECTOR IS REALLY, REALLY, REALLY GOOD AT COMMUNICATING THINGS TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE DOCUMENT DESIGNER PRESENTATIONS OR SOME OF THAT.
SO WE DO, WE WILL START TO PACKAGE THIS AND BE ABLE TO PUSH THIS OUT, UM, TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF FOLKS.
BUT WE'VE GOTTA KIND OF HONE IN ON WHAT THE IMPORTANT PIECES ARE.
AND THE, THE LONGER STORY IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT DOES GET THE ELEMENTS OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT, MOBILITY AND HOUSING THAT WE HAVE TO ALL TACKLE.
WE CAN'T, IF WE SIMPLIFY IT TOO MUCH FOR PURPOSES OF GUIDING THE PLAN AND AND DEVELOPMENT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MEAT ON THE BONE, PER SE.
THE, THE OTHER CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD WITH, WITH STAFF AND, AND CITY MANAGEMENT WAS WE HAVE TO BE OKAY BEING BOLD AND SPECIFIC WHEN YOU, PART OF THE, THE CRITICISM THAT THAT COMP PLANS GET IS THEY END UP ON A SHELF, THEY DON'T GET USED IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TOO GENERAL, THEN, YOU KNOW, ONE ARGUMENT FOR MAKING IT A LITTLE MORE GENERAL IS THAT YOU CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS UNDERNEATH THAT.
UM, BUT IF YOU'RE TOO GENERAL THAT, AND YOU'RE NOT SPECIFIC ENOUGH ABOUT KEY WORDS, THEN THAT DOESN'T GIVE YOUR PLAN, COMMISSION OR YOUR COUNSEL THAT THE KEY PHRASES THAT THEY NEED TO, TO MAKE THOSE HARD DECISIONS AND POINT BACK TWO OR FIVE YEARS OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW AND SAY, WE'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, OF THE, OF THE COMP PLAN.
SO I, I'M GONNA, I DON'T WANNA SAY ANY MORE ABOUT MY PERSONAL THOUGHTS ON THIS, JUST KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN THROUGH A COUPLE OF ROUNDS OF INPUT FROM THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
IT'S BEEN VETTED THROUGH SOME DIFFERENT, SOME DIFFERENT LENSES.
IT DOES, THE LONGER VERSION DOES SERVE A PURPOSE THAT WILL, IF YOU CAN JUST KIND OF TRUST US AND BEAR WITH US, IT WILL BE UNPACKED AS WE GO.
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WE LEAVE THIS AND, AND WE GO TOWARDS TAKING IT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, IT IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT WE MEAN BY A WALKABLE AND CONNECTED COMMUNITY.SO LET'S TAKE, UM, WHAT TIME? WE GOT SIX 30.
SO WHY DON'T WE TAKE, SEE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? 20 MINUTES? 15? SO I THINK, UH, 15 WOULD BE PLENTY.
AND AL I'M GONNA AL ANGEL, I'M GONNA HAVE YOU GO BACK WITH THE OTHER AL AL CHFI GO OVER THERE.
SO TAKE 15 MINUTES, TALK ABOUT IT, UM, AND THEN BE PREPARED IF, IF WHATEVER COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK YOU HAVE, BE PREPARED TO SHARE THOSE WITH THE, THE GROUP INDIVIDUALLY.
THIS MORNING, WHICH ONE DIDN'T? DIDN'T, OKAY, THERE'S, I HAVE ALL, I HAVE ALL BEEN SYRUP FOR COFFEE.
WELL, I THINK, YEAH, SOMEONE LIKE, YEAH, HE DOESN'T LIKE HIM.
HE DOESN'T, SO DID YOU, UM, WHAT DID YOU MEET WITH SARAH? UM, JUST TO, SO I HAD NEVER MET HER IN PERSON.
SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT IT ALL, THEY GET INTO THINGS LIKE THAT.
LIKE THEY'RE JUST ALL OVER AND THEN LIKE, JUST SUMMED UP, LIKE CREATING A, WE HAVE A PLAN.
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THEY'RE NOT LIKE, HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO THIS PARTICULAR ONE? AND WASTE, WE DID THAT WITH, WE HAD A, WE HAD A,[00:40:32]
SO, SO YEAH, SO WORKSHOP WE BROUGHT IN PEOPLE IN DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES, PROPERTY OWNERS, WHATEVER, ENTREPRENEURS.WE BROUGHT 'EM ALL IN AND TALK ABOUT HIS MODEL.
WE BASICALLY CONCEPT OUT AND APPROACH FOR, UM, WHICH ONE? COLLEEN.
WHICH THEY NEEDED KICK EVERYTHING.
AND NOW THEY'VE GOT IN THERE, THEY'VE GOT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAME OUTTA THAT, THAT WORK GOT THEM HALFWAY, HALFWAY TO LIKE RIGHT SIZING.
SO IT'S, WELL, IT DIDN'T, SO THEY HAVE SO MANY, LIKE ENTREPRENEURS WHAT THEY WANT, WHAT I TRULY BELIEVE, LIKE PART I WANT AN OPERATOR, THAT'S WHAT MY GOAL, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
YOU TAKE THIS ENTREPRENEUR THEMSELVES AND PROPERTY OWNERS, THEY'VE GOT, THEY'RE GONNA KICK THEM OUT AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA WAIT FOR THE NEXT STORIES OVER AND OVER.
ALL THESE GREAT BUSINESS PEOPLE.
AND THEN THAT COMING TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FOCUS ON THE BUILDINGS TO IN MM-HMM.
OH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
SO WHAT'S THE STORY? SO WHEN I HEARD DAY ONE, I LAST YEAR, UM, TOLD ME, KNOW, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED, DON'T WORRY GET, WHY WOULD THEY ACCESS HOUSING IF IT WASN'T GONNA FAIL? I'M LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE COST OF REDEVELOPMENT.
BUT ONCE IT'S OPERATIONAL, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
AND IT'S THE TEXAS DEALER GUYS OPERAT, LIKE, AND NOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, MONEY'S STORY.
SO HIS RISK TOLERANCE IS LIKE, THERE'S LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND THEN MONS LIKE, I MEAN HE'S THE BELMONT HOTEL.
HIS STORY WITH THAT, THAT WAS HIS FIRST, AND, AND NOW HE LITERALLY, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF HIS REGRETS, SHOULD NEVER LET GO OF THAT.
HE REALLY SHOULDN LIKE, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT HE LET GO OF THAT.
I REMEMBER GOING IN THERE SMOKE, SMOKE CLOTHES.
I HAVEN'T, I I USED TO LIVE OVER THERE, SO I USED, IF IT DIDN'T CLOSE, THEY WERE, BUT, BUT YEAH, I, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS A CONVERSATION.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY THAT LANGUAGE? YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S
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REALLY IMPORTANT.LIKE, THEY NEED TO THINK FUTURE.
I MEAN, WE WANT IT TO BE A COMMUNITY DOCUMENT.
OR HEY, MAYBE INTERIM DIRECTOR.
I THOUGHT, OKAY GUYS, WE GOT ONE MORE, ONE MORE MINUTE AND THEN WE'RE GONNA KEEP GOING.
OKAY GUYS, WE, WE READY TO, WE READY TO HAVE OUR INDIVIDUAL REPORTS.
OH, SEE, NOW SUE'S AT A TABLE.
SO NOW SHE'S LIKE, ONE MORE MINUTE.
OKAY GUYS, LET'S, UH, LET'S KEEP US, UH, LET'S JUST KEEP, LET'S KEEP US GOING.
SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TAKE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS, UM, ONE, ONE BY ONE.
AND WHAT, WHAT I WANT, UM, I THINK WHAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE IS IF WE ASK EACH OF YOU IN, INSTEAD OF, UM, STAYING THERE AT YOUR TABLE, IF WE ASK YOU TO COME UP HERE AND COME TO THE PODIUM AND LOOK OUT ACROSS YOUR FRIENDS HERE IN THE ROOM AND SHARE YOUR, UH, OH YEAH.
SO WHO, WHO, RA RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF, OF WHAT WE HAD HERE.
JUST WANNA GET A FEEL FOR HOW CLOSE WE ARE.
WHO, WHO IS JUST ITCHING TO SHARE THEIR, THEIR TH THEIR THOUGHTS? DENISE.
DENISE, YOU WANNA GO FIRST?
I THINK TYLER, DO YOU WANNA GO FIRST? NO.
NO, I, YOU WANT HEAR STEVE? I'LL LET YOU READ IT, BUT WE CAN REALLY STAY WHERE WE ARE.
I'LL, YOU WANT ME TO READ IT FIRST OR YOU WANT ME TO HOLD OFF FOR THE BOMB? OKAY.
LET SUE DELIVER THE, THAT'S YOU WANT IT, DO YOU WANT IT TO WAIT? OKAY.
SO CAME UP WITH A SENTENCE TO, TO LEAD IT OFF, WHICH I WAS PRETTY GOOD WITH.
ADDISON IS AN URBAN OASIS, CENTRALLY LOCATED WITHIN A SPRAWLING, WAIT A MINUTE, A CAN, SORRY, I CAN'T READ YOUR HANDWRITING 'CAUSE YOU'RE LING HERE.
WHY DON'T YOU READ THAT? SORRY.
CAN'T TELL WHAT ORDER IS DOWN THERE TO THERE.
THIS IS WHAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP AS OUR TRUE VISIONS STATEMENT.
THIS IS SUE ADDISON IS AN URBAN O AND CENTURY LOCATED WITHIN AND CONNECTED TO A SPRAWLING
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METROPOLITAN AREA.IS THAT THE END OF IT, SUE? YEAH, THAT'S IT.
THEN NEXT WE WOULD GO TO THE GREEN PARAGRAPH.
THAT WAS THE ADD-ON FROM CPAC WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES, UH, DROPPING THE TWO ITSELF, IT DOESN'T SEEM VERY INCLUSIVE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING WHICH VERSION.
FIRST PARAGRAPH IS VERSION FOUR, A, B FOUR, A FIRST PARAGRAPH THAT WAS GREEN, THAT WAS IN BY THE CPA PERSON.
WE ARE THE PACESETTER FOR CREATING A TOWN FULLY CONNECTED OR AIMS TO FULLY CONNECT, BUT WE DON'T, I DON'T TO ITSELF IS KINDA NOT VERY INCLUSIVE.
UM, THEN GOING TO B, WE WOULD GO TO, AND I KNOW TOM AGREES WITH THIS, THAT AS WE LOOK AHEAD TO THE 2050 PARAGRAPH NEXT AND THEN PULL UP FORWARD YES.
AND THEN WE WERE OKAY WITH KIND OF THE REST OF THAT SECTION, LIKE IN THAT ORDER ON B.
SO IT'S MORE THE FIRST SECTION OF B THAT WE WOULD CHANGE UP TO GO BACK TO A IS THAT JUST YOUR THOUGHTS OR IS THAT, I THINK IT WAS, I THINK GO AHEAD.
BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS IN GENERAL.
MAY, MAY I MAKE A COMMENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH HERE.
UH, THIS, THIS PHILOSOPHY IS REFERRED TO AS THE ADDISON WAY.
MY DEFINITION OF THE ADDISON WAY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CUSTOMER SERVICE ASPECT OF RON USED TO SAY GETTING TO YES.
AND, AND TO ME THAT IS NOT A, A DEVELOPMENT DEFINITION OF ADDISON OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT WE ALWAYS TRY TO WORK WITH DEVELOPERS AND EXPEDITE IT OR WHATEVER.
WELL, SO THE THOUGHT, THE THOUGHT THERE WAS TO EXPAND ON THE, THE INNOVATION OF ADDISON OF TRYING TO BE INNOVATION IS ADDISON.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REFERENCING, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REFERENCING HERE OF TRYING TO BE AN INNOVATIVE LEADER.
AGAIN, I WE CAN PULL THAT OUT.
WE'VE GOTTEN REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK FROM STAFF AND OTHERS ON KEEPING THAT IN.
YEAH, I, SO I AGREE WITH YOU, LIZ, THAT THE ADDISON WAY, SO 32, 33 YEARS OF BEING INVOLVED, YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED LONGER.
BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, IT'S SERVICE ORIENTED.
BUT I'VE ALWAYS ALSO INTERPRETED IT TO BE INNOVATIVE, CUTTING EDGE.
WE WERE THE FIRST TO DO THIS URBAN DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AROUND US HERE AT ADDISON CIRCLE.
SO TO ME, THE ADDISON WAY WAS ENCOURAGING INNOVATION, UM, BOTH IN DEVELOPMENT, IN HOW, HOW THE DEPARTMENTS WERE RUN, ENCOURAGING INNOVATION WITHIN THE STAFF.
THAT WAS THE ADDISON WAY, THAT OPENNESS TO NEW WAYS, BETTER WAYS, ALL OF IT DESIGNED TO BRING US TO A PLACE OF SORT OF CUTTING EDGE, GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THAT KIND OF THING.
I THINK BUSINESS FRIENDLY IS A BIG ONE.
THAT WAS ALWAYS MORE MY OPINION OF IT.
AND BUSINESS FRIENDLY, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, DOING INSPECTIONS AT THREE IN THE MORNING IF THAT'S WHAT THEY NEEDED.
I'M GONNA ASK AN OBVIOUS QUESTION IF WE'RE GONNA INCLUDE LANGUAGE, AND AS YOU SAID, YOU WERE IN COUNCIL, YOU WERE ENCOURAGED BY STAFF MEMBERS TO INCLUDE IT.
SURELY THERE HAS TO BE A WRITTEN DEFINITION OF WHAT THE ADDISON WAY IS.
NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, UNLESS IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXERCISE TO THIS GROUP TO DEFINE IT, WHICH I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SET UP A SUBCOMMITTEE TO DO THAT.
BUT IF WE'RE GONNA INCLUDE THOSE WORDS, I DON'T, I DON'T AGREE.
IT'S FOOLISH TO INCLUDE THOSE WORDS WITHOUT HAVING A PRESET DEFINITION AS TO EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS.
'CAUSE YOU'VE JUST HEARD THE DISCUSSION TAKE PLACE HERE WHERE EVERYBODY'S GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT FLAVOR TO IT.
IT'S GONNA MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
IF IT'S GONNA MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE, I, I HAVE MY OWN VIEW ON IT.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S A BAD THING TO SAY, BUT IF IT'S GONNA CAUSE THAT KIND OF A PROBLEM, TAKE IT OUT.
I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH MY GOOD FRIEND AL.
UH, SO I THINK IT'S, I THINK YOU'VE HEARD THE STAFF SUPPORT IT BECAUSE IT, IT DOES DEFINE US AND IT IS SOMEWHAT AMORPHOUS, AND THAT'S OKAY.
THEN I WOULD PROPOSE TO LIFT THE LANGUAGE IF THE LANGUAGE DOES NOT EXIST.
THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS NOT A VALUE JUDGMENT.
ARE WE GONNA BE PRECISE WITH THIS OR NOT? AND IF WE ARE GONNA PRETEND TO BE PRECISE AND WE'RE NOT, I THINK WE'RE ON DANGEROUS GROUND.
I MEAN, I THINK YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THIS AS A VISION, WHICH I THINK GOES BACK TO
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SOMEWHAT SELF INTERPRETATION IN YOUR OWN OPINION OF THINGS TOO, AND HOW YOU WOULD READ INTO THAT.SO, ALL RIGHT, SO I AM GOING TO PROVIDE A COUPLE OF, SOME CONTEXT FOR THE GROUP.
SO THE ADDISON WAY IS A PHILOSOPHY THAT'S, I'M READING THE DEFINITION THIS FROM OUR WEBSITE.
THE ADDISON WAY IS A PHILOSOPHY THAT SERVES AS THE CORNERSTONE OF ADDISON'S SERVICE DELIVERY MODEL TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS.
THE HEART OF THE ADDISON WAY IS TO BE SERVICE MINDED AND KIND EXCEED EXPECTATIONS, BE SOLUTIONS DRIVEN AND VALUE EMPLOYEES AS PARTNERS.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, THE, OUR CURRENT CITY MANAGER LAST YEAR, UH, WANTED TO FURTHER DE DEFINE THAT TO YOUR POINT.
AND WE CREATED, UM, WHAT'S CALLED BE BRAVE, AND THAT'S OUR VALUES.
AND THOSE VALUES, UM, INCLUDE ACCOUNTABILITY, RESPONSIVENESS, INNOVATION, SERVICE, AND INTEGRITY.
AND THE, WHAT IT GOES ON TO SAY IS, THIS IS HOW WE MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
SO WE UTILIZE THESE VALUES TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
AND I THINK TO YOUR POINT, WE CAN USE THEM IN DIFFERENT WAYS, RIGHT? SO WE CAN USE INNOVATION WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE COULD ALSO USE INNOVATION WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE.
UM, AND THE, SO IT'S, IT CAN BE BROAD, BUT IT IS DEFINED.
YOU JUST GAVE THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION.
I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE PUT, PUT A REFERENCE, A LITTLE FOOTNOTE IN THE VISION THAT SAYS, AS DEFINED HERE, PROVIDE A WEB LINK.
UM, RELATED TO THAT COMMENT, I DO THINK IT'S KIND OF NECESSARY TO EMPHASIZE THAT ALTHOUGH THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A COMMUNITY FOCUSED AND DRIVEN PLAN, THE END USER IS PRIMARILY STAFF WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND HOW IT'S IMPLEMENTED.
UM, AND SO WHERE YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF KIND OF BROAD LANGUAGE THAT TOUCHES ON OUR VALUES, THE STAFF HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT IS.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT MAY BECOME A LITTLE BIT CLEARER AS THE PROCESS GOES ON AND WE GET INTO HOW THE VISION TURNS INTO SPECIFIC POLICY DIRECTIVES THAT ARE MUCH MORE SPECIFIC.
UM, AND THEY'LL BE, UM, ADMINISTERED PRIMARILY BY STAFF.
SO LET'S KEEP GOING WITH THE FORMAT OF SHARE, SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT 'EM AND SEE IF WE CAN KEEP GOING.
SO YEAH, FROM OUR TABLE, UH, WE ALL B BROADLY AGREE ON THE THINGS DENISE SAID ABOUT KIND OF MOVING EVERYTHING UP.
UH, SOME, SOME OF MY ADDITIONS WOULD BE, I, I I WILL STILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR THE SPECIFIC PHRASING OF WALKABILITY.
UM, I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, MYSELF INCLUDED, UNTIL REALLY ABOUT 2020 DIDN'T, DIDN'T EVEN HAVE LIKE A CONCEPT OF WALKABILITY VERSUS WHAT I'VE GROWN UP IN MY WHOLE LIFE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE HESITANT TO EMBRACE IT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN IN CAR DEPENDENT AMERICA OR TEXAS FOR SO LONG.
THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A CONCEPT.
AND SO I THINK EDUCATION IS A GREAT PLACE TO DO IT.
UM, BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT HESITATION I THINK IS MORE TREPIDATION BASED IN, WELL, UH, THIS IS THE WAY, AND I MEAN THIS GENTLY LACK OF IMAGINATION.
SO, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD BE SPECIFIC IN KEEPING THAT A PRIORITY WITHIN THE VISION STATEMENT SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME REFER TO IT IN THE FUTURE, THEY KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE MEANT.
AND THEY DON'T USE CONNECTIVITY AS A THING TO SAY, WELL, BELT LINE WILL BE FOUR LANES EACH DIRECTION.
YOU KNOW, THAT SUPPORTS CONNECTIVITY.
WE LITERALLY DON'T HAVE THE GEOMETRY FOR THAT.
UM, I DUNNO WHY I'M LOOKING AT YOU, KEVIN, BUT ANYWAYS.
AND THEN FINALLY, UH, THE REST OF THIS IS I THINK, FAIRLY SOLID FROM MY UH, UH, PERSPECTIVE.
BUT I THINK IN THE PARAGRAPH WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT INTENTIONAL WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT, CHOOSING PROJECT DESIGNS, MATERIALS, THAT PARAGRAPH, UM, I WAS THE ONE WHO REFERENCED THE, THE NEEDS TO MAYBE ADDRESS AND ADAPT TO CLIMATE CHANGE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT SPOT TO ADD SOME MORE, UH, REGARDING TO, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SAY WE MAINTAIN OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND OUR RESILIENCE IN A RAPIDLY CHANGING CLIMATE, UM, AND ECONOMY, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO THROW THAT BECAUSE THAT, THAT WILL BE A STANDARD.
I MEAN THAT TREE CANOPY MAY SOON MEAN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 82 DEGREES IN THE SHADE AND WELL BEING ABLE TO WALK AROUND IT ALL.
UM, SO I THINK ADDING SOME PRIORITY TO HOW WE ADDRESS DEALING WITH THE CLIMATE GOING FORWARD WOULD BE A GREAT SPOT FOR THAT.
AND I REALLY HAVE NO OTHER COMMENTS.
ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I SIT DOWN? COOL.
WHO WANTS TO COME UP NEXT? CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SURE.
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WAS ALLUDING TO BEFORE ON THE, THIS IS OUR VISION STORY, RIGHT? AND SO I, I THINK, I REALLY THINK THAT THAT ON THE FOUR B VERSION, THAT AT LEAST THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH, THAT FIRST SENTENCE OF THE, OF THE SECOND PARAGRAPH SHOULD SH BE SHOVED CLEAR TO THE VERY TOP.'CAUSE THIS KIND OF GIVES US A HISTORY OF LIKE, LIKE IF SOMEBODY JUST CAME IN AND STARTED READING IT, THAT JUST MOVED INTO TOWN, RIGHT? I KNOW IT'S FOR STAFF, BUT IF SOMEBODY ELSE IS GONNA READ THE THING THAT TELLS US LIKE OUR HISTORY AND THEN GET TO OUR, WHAT OUR VISION IS BELOW THAT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT IT DOES.
AND AND WE'VE GOT, UM, WE'VE HAD DIFFERENT THOUGHTS ON THAT.
DO YOU LEAD, I MEAN, THERE'S SOME OF SAY, YOU KNOW, LEAD, LEAD WITH YOUR STATEMENT AND THEN THE, THE BROADER, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BROADER, UM, THE REST OF IT COMES BEHIND IT.
I, UM, I THINK SOMEONE, IT MIGHT'VE BEEN, UM, OR SOME SOMEONE ELSE HAD COMMENTED ABOUT PULLING THAT UP TO THE VERY, UH, TO THE VERY BEGINNING.
UH, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THE, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE WALK WALKABLE CONNECTED COMMUNITY.
AND THEN UNDER UNDERNEATH HERE WE GET IN THE, THE HISTORY IS AN INNOVATIVE LEADER PARAGRAPH, BUT WE GET IT, UM, FURTHER THE COMPETITIVE EDGE BY INVESTING IN A SAFE AND COMPLETE MOBILITY NETWORK.
THAT IS ONE BIG THING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING TO BUILD THE REST OF THE PLAN AROUND.
UM, THE SECOND ONE IS THE PLACE AND EXPERIENCE-BASED BUSINESSES.
THAT'S THE SECOND THING THAT WE'RE GONNA BUILD THIS PLAN AROUND.
AND THEN THE THIRD ONE, UM, IS A DIVERSITY OF HOUSING OPTIONS SO THAT RESIDENTS OF ALL AGES WILL HAVE THE HIGHEST, HIGHEST QUALITY OF LIFE AVAILABLE.
SO THAT GETS AT THE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT, THE MOBILITY COMPONENT AND THE HOUSING COMPONENT.
UH, A LOT OF THE REST OF THIS IS JUST TELLING THE STORY AND AGAIN, PAINTING THE PICTURE OF WHAT DO YOU WANT ADDISON TO LOOK LIKE IN 2050.
SO IF WE WANNA START WITH AS WE LOOK AHEAD TO 2050, WE CAN DO THAT.
UM, I COULD SEE A DIFFERENT WAY.
THERE'S ABBY IN THE, IN THE BACK.
SO YOU'VE SAID PLACE AND EXPERIENCE-BASED BUSINESSES.
WOULD YOU DEFINE PLACE BASED BUSINESSES AND EXPERIENCE-BASED BUSINESSES, PLEASE? YEAH.
SO SOME OF THAT COMES FROM A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT TONY HAD WITH DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF, UM, THE EXPERIENCE COMING TO HANG OUT WITH PEOPLE, CONNECT WITH PEOPLE TO DO THAT.
YOU'RE USUALLY IN MORE OF A, IT'S MORE OF A, IT'S MORE OF AN ENVIRONMENT THAT'S DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE, UM, AND FOR THE MIX OF USES THAN JUST DRIVING TO A, A PARKING LOT AND GETTING OUT AND DOING YOUR BUSINESS AND, AND GETTING BACK.
SO, UM, I WOULD JUST, IT'S, IT'S IT'S BUSINESSES AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S DER DESIGNED AROUND PLACE AND INTERACTION WITH OTHER PEOPLE AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST COMING TO DO OUR BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA SHOP AT THIS PLACE AND THEN GO HOME,
WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND IS IF SOME OF THE CORPORATIONS, THE CORPORATE AND, AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE, HAVE A SMALL ACCOUNTING FIRM, IF THAT'S REPRESENTED IN THAT, IN THOSE TWO THINGS.
UM, I MEAN IT NEEDS TO BE, SO WHAT WE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE LARGER COMP, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LARGER DEVELOPERS AND COMPANIES IS, YOU KNOW, THE GOING TO SOMEWHERE LIKE A LEGACY OR THESE MIXED USE CENTERS, IT'S THE EMPLOYERS ARE GONNA FOLLOW EMPLOYERS FOLLOW TALENT, AND TALENT FOLLOWS PLACE.
SO THE, THE TALENT OF THE FUTURE IS GONNA GO TO MORE OF THESE WALKABLE, MIXED USE TYPES OF PLACES.
THE COMPANIES ARE GONNA BE WHERE THE TALENT WANTS TO BE.
SO I, I THINK THE, THE WALKABLE HUMAN SCALE GETS INTO MORE OF THE, THE LOCAL, THE SMALLER BUSINESSES, THE, YOU KNOW, THE ATTORNEYS, THE ACCOUNTANTS, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THAT YOU WOULD FIND ON MAIN STREET.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, ABBY? YES.
I I WOULD TAKE A LITTLE, I WOULD, UH, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH MORE TO UNPACK.
THERE'S SO MUCH MORE TO UNPACK CHALLENGE FROM A LABOR AND LOCATION STRATEGY PERSPECTIVE, YEAH.
THE BUSINESS IS GOING TO GO WHERE THE LABOR IS, BUT THEY, THEY'LL BE IN THAT CITY AND THEY WILL LOOK FOR THE RIGHT RENT.
AND THAT LOCATION IS BASED UPON ALL THE DIFFERENT MODES OF TRANSPORTATION TO BRING THE LABOR TO THEM.
SO IT'S NOT PUTTING IT IN A COMMUNITY THAT'S NECESSARILY THE WALKABLE, BUT IT'S ALL THE DIFFERENT MODES OF TRANSPORTATION THAT CAN BRING THE LABOR TO THEM, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE GONNA DRIVE BY WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE RIGHT RENT.
SO, SO EACH OF THESE, YOU KNOW, THE LAND USE, THE DEVELOPMENT, THE HOUSING, THE MOBILITY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE ALL GONNA HAVE ADDITIONAL, I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE TO UNPACK ALL OF THESE IN THE PLANS.
SO SOME OF THAT GETS INTO, THERE'S ALSO THE WHAT'S YOUR INCENTIVE POLICY, UM, ALL,
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ALL, YOU KNOW, FOR THE ECONOMIC.SO A A LOT OF THAT GOES TOGETHER, BUT IT ALL COMES BACK TO THERE, THERE IS A SHIFT BOTH WITH THE MARKET AND WITH THE, THE FUTURE DEMOGRAPHICS OF MORE OF AN INTEREST IN THE MIXED USE PLACES.
PEOPLE ARE STILL GONNA CHOOSE TO GET TO THOSE PLACES DIFFERENTLY.
SO YOU MIGHT HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WANNA LIVE RIGHT HERE BY THEM.
YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE SOME THAT ARE GONNA WANT TO COMMUTE TO IT.
AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING A LOT OF Y'ALL SAY TOO, IS THAT THE CONNECTION, NOT JUST INSIDE ADDISON, BUT THE ABILITY FOR SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE TO COME INTO, WHICH SOMEWHERE IN HERE WE ADDED, UM, WE ADDED LANGUAGE FOR, UM, COMMUTERS.
IN ADDITION TO THE, THE RESIDENTS.
WELL, AND TO ADD TO, I THINK KINDA YOUR POINT THAT YOU'RE GETTING AT IS THE, THE ABILITY FOR THE CONNECTIVITY AND EASIER TO GET HERE KIND OF GETS OVER ONE OF YOUR HURDLES THAT THE REALITY IS THE AVERAGE PERSON CAN'T BUY A HOME HERE ANYMORE.
I MEAN, THERE'S MULTIPLE PURPOSES OF THAT THAT GO HAND IN HAND WITH HER COMMENTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THANK YOU TYLER.
I DIDN'T EVEN SEE YOU COME UP.
UM, WE DIDN'T DO ANY WORDSMITHING, UH, UH, I THINK AARON AND CONRAD BOTH FELT THAT THE DOCUMENT READ WELL AND ADDRESSED THE ISSUES THEY THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT.
I WAS THE OUTLIER AT FIRST, NOT TODAY, BUT EARLIER.
AND, UH, I'M JUST GONNA TAKE A MINUTE, KIND OF SHARE THIS PROCESS WITH YOU.
SO MY BACKGROUND IS COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE.
I HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE.
UM, I KIND OF THOUGHT I WAS THE EXPERT, BUT I'VE LEARNED A LOT IN THE LAST, CALL IT TWO OR THREE MONTHS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE LEARNED IS TO TRY AND LISTEN A LITTLE BETTER.
SO THE WHOLE IDEA OF WALKABILITY TO ME WAS JUST A NON-STARTER.
I, I, I THOUGHT, WHAT IS THAT? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S BIKE TRAILS, IT'S PATH.
THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND THESE GUYS HELPED EDUCATE ME, I REALIZED THAT WALKABILITY REALLY COULD DRIVE A DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
AND SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, ADDISON IS FOUR SQUARE MILES.
WE PROBABLY COULDN'T DO THIS IN PLANO, MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT IN FRISCO, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO IT HERE.
AND WALKABILITY, TO ME, UH, BACK TO THE POINT YOU MADE KEVIN, WAS IT CAN BE THE DRIVER OF SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CORPORATE EMPLOYMENT, WE HAVE A LOT OF B AND C OFFICE BUILDINGS.
I JUST SAW THE THING THAT CAME INTO MAIL TODAY.
WE HAVE 12 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL IN OFFICE.
A DEVELOPER HAS THIS BUILDING, THE TOWN OF ADDISON CAN HELP WA COMMUNICATE AND NETWORK THAT TOGETHER AND CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THAT DEVELOPER IS GONNA SUCCEED MORE AND ATTRACT MORE TALENT BECAUSE IT'S A MORE DESIRABLE BUILDING BECAUSE IT'S CONNECTED.
UH, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BELTLINE, BELTLINE IS A DRAG STRIP, BUT IF WE IMPROVE WALKABILITY, WHATEVER THAT MEANS, AND THAT'S NOT THE PURPOSE TONIGHT, BUT WALKABILITY MAKES THAT A BETTER STREET.
SO I'VE REALLY BECOME A CONVERT.
AND WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THE VISION STATEMENT THAT TO ME STARTS TO HELP GUIDE ME IS IT'S SIMPLE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT TRYING TO BE EVERYTHING TO EVERYBODY.
IT'S SAYING, OKAY, LET'S PICK A HORSE AND GO WITH IT.
NOW THERE'S A LOT OF PERMUTATIONS, THERE'S A LOT OF PIECES TO THIS.
I MEAN, HONESTLY, I DRIVE MYSELF CRAZY.
I'VE WRITTEN NOTES, PROBABLY PAGES OF NOTES, AND THEN I'VE RIPPED THEM UP AND SAID, NAH, IT'S IN THE WEEDS.
AND SO I THINK TONIGHT THE VISION STATEMENT TO ME IS GOING TO BE BROAD, BUT IT'S GONNA BE FOCUSED.
AND I REALLY DO THINK, AND, AND I BELIEVE, UH, CONRAD AND AARON AGREE THAT WE'RE IN THE RIGHT PATH.
WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND SO FOR OUR PUR PURPOSES, YEAH, THERE'S A FEW TWEAKS HERE AND THERE.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE QUITE THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT WE THINK WE ARE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK IT'S A DIRECTION THAT WE'RE HEADING IS THE RIGHT ONE.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT SUMMARIZES OUR GROUP.
UM, IF AARON AND CONNOR, I DON'T DUNNO IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD.
I JUST WANNA SAY I WALKED TO THIS MEETING TODAY,
AND BACK DURING THE BIG FREEZE, I WALKED TO TARGET TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE.
AND LAST 4TH OF JULY, I RODE MY BIKE OVER FROM LES LAX THROUGH A SEA OF CARS THAT WERE NOT MOVING TO COME HERE TO WATCH THE FIREWORKS.
AND WHEN IT WAS OVER, I RODE MY BIKE AT MY LEISURE THROUGH A SEA OF CARS THAT WERE NOT MOVING BACK TO MY HOME.
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I LIKE THIS CONCEPT VERY, VERY MUCH.WHO'S NEXT? I THINK I TOLD JADE THIS IN MY COMMENTS TO HER WAS, I THINK WE'RE URBAN BY LOCATION, BUT NOT NECESSARILY URBAN BY WHAT'S BUILT HERE RIGHT NOW.
AND, AND I THINK WE'RE MOVING THAT WAY, BUT SOMEWHERE IN ONE OF THESE HAD HAD CALLED US URBAN, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I QUITE AGREE WITH THAT WORDING OF HOW IT WAS USED.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE URBAN, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE SUBURBAN EITHER.
AT SOME POINT I PROPOSED URBANIZING.
UM, BUT THE VERSION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WAS FROM MARCH.
SO IT WAS, WE ARE THE PACESETTER FOR URBAN COMMUNITIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THAT CHANGED TO PACESETTER FOR WALKABLE MIXED USE PLACES.
SO URBAN WAS TAKEN OUT IN THE MOST RECENT DROP.
SO I, I THINK IT'S ADDRESSED WE'RE URBAN OASIS
WE'LL COME, WE'LL COME BACK AND KIND OF CIRCLE BACK THROUGH, UH, THROUGH SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I, I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH IS, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS COMMENTS THEY WANNA SHARE? LIZ, DID YOU WANNA LIZ? I, I THINK, WE'LL, WE'LL LET LIZ DO IT FOR
I THINK LOCALLY, THE REASON SOME PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF URBAN IS THAT THEY INTERPRET URBAN AS THE MONOLITHIC, UH, APARTMENT STRUCTURES THAT COME DIRECTLY TO THE CURB.
AND SO TO SOME PEOPLE, URBAN IS A DIRTY WORD, EVEN THOUGH THEY LIVE IN A HUGE METROPOLITAN AREA OF SEVEN OR 8 MILLION PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED URBAN.
SO I, I, I HAVE TO TELL Y'ALL THAT, IT JUST MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING.
SO MY, AND I NEED TO GET A, A PICTURE OF IT SO I CAN PUT IT IN SLIDES.
MY DAUGHTER, BACK IN THIRD GRADE, THEY WERE LEARNING, THEY WERE BEING TAUGHT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS IN THEIR SOCIAL STUDIES CLASS, AND THEY HAD PICTURES AND WORDS, AND IT WAS RURAL, URBAN, AND SUBURBAN.
AND THE WORDS THEY WERE TAUGHT WITH URBAN WAS DIRTY, LOUD, AND OVERCROWDED.
AND, YOU KNOW, RURAL WAS QUIET.
UM, SOMETHING LIKE SEPARATED OR, UM, AND, AND THEN SUBURBAN WAS BASICALLY PAINTED AS THE PERFECT COMBINATION OF EVERY, YEAH.
I GUESS IT WOULD'VE BEEN EIGHT OR NINE YEARS AGO NOW.
BUT I JUST, THAT IS LIKE, SO YEAH.
BUT PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN TEXAS, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL, YOU THINK URBAN, THEY THINK NEW YORK CITY, DIRTY, LOUD, CROWDED.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT THAT, BUT WELL DONE.
WELL, WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
OUR COMMENTS ALREADY GOT ADDRESSED.
WE WERE JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT MOVING THE WORD CONNECTED AROUND THAT ALREADY GOT TALKED ABOUT AND MOVING THE PARAGRAPH UP.
SO I THINK OTHERWISE WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.
SEE, NOW THAT, NOW THAT WE MADE IT OKAY TO TALK FROM YOUR TABLE, EVERYBODY WANTS TO YES.
IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN YOU'RE UP HERE.
UM, YEAH, I THINK WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF EVOLVING WITH EMERGENCE EMERGING TECHNOLOGY, BECAUSE 2050 IS 26 YEARS FROM NOW.
AND IF YOU THINK BACK TO 26 YEARS AGO, SMARTPHONES WERE NOT AROUND.
LAPTOPS WERE KIND OF A NEW IDEA.
UM, WHAT ELSE DID WE TALK ABOUT THAT WAS, DIDN'T EVEN EXIST? EMAIL WAS A NEW IDEA.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THE, THE JUMPS AND LEAPS THAT TECHNOLOGY WILL, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE BETWEEN NOW AND 26 YEARS FROM NOW, PLUS THE AI IMPACT.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HOPE THAT OUR VISION STATEMENT WAS ACKNOWLEDGE THAT FUTURE, UH, ELEMENT.
AND ONE OTHER IDEA WE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH HAD TO DO WITH BEING, UH, MORE ADDRESSED TO WALKABILITY AND BEING PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
UM, KATHY MENTIONED IN JAPAN HOW THERE ARE TRAFFIC SIGNALS DEDICATED TO ALLOWING ONLY THE PEDESTRIANS TO CROSS.
AND THAT WOULD BE A HUGE CONCEPT HERE.
AND WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE TRAMMELL CROW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN, PEOPLE LIVING THERE ARE GONNA WANNA CROSS BELTLINE TO GO TO BITTER SISTERS OR MAYBE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT WILL SERVE.
THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF IF, IF MAKING
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ADDISON MORE CONNECTED AND MORE HUMAN, YOU KNOW, HUMAN SCALE IS A PRIORITY.THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS AS ENGINEERS, AS PLANNER, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS YOU CAN DO TO MAKE THE ENVIRONMENT MORE COMFORTABLE, MORE SAFE, MORE USEFUL, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
AND A LOT OF IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH, WITH TECHNOLOGY.
BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SAY THE CAR IS THE PRIORITY, A LOT OF THOSE OTHER THINGS, THEY'RE JUST NOT.
THEY DON'T, I KNOW AS A CIVIL ENGINEER, I'VE TRIED, YOU GET TO A POINT, BUT THE CAR WINS.
AND IF THE CAR WINS, PEOPLE AND BIKES AND EVERYTHING ELSE ARE A NON-STARTER, UM, WIRELESS TECHNOLOGY.
AND WHAT THE FOLKS WITH THE, THE DRIVERLESS TECHNOLOGY WILL TELL YOU, AND, YOU KNOW, FLYING CARS AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS IS, IT'S AGAIN ABOUT WALKABLE HUMAN SCALE STUFF.
BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO BASICALLY FLY INTO WHEREVER YOU WANT TO GO.
AND THEN IT'S THE LAST MILE OR THE LAST HALF MILE.
HOW DO YOU GET FROM, YOU KNOW, THERE TO, TO HOME? SO A LOT OF THESE, AGAIN, THEY ALL DESIGNING A TRULY WALKABLE CONNECTED COMMUNITY ENCOMPASSES A LOT OF THINGS.
IT, IT'S THE TREE CANOPY, IT'S THE SAFETY, UH, YOU KNOW, OF, OF CROSSING.
IT'S DESIGNING PLACES THAT PRIORITIZE PEOPLE OVER THE, THE CAR FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT NOW, ROADS ARE DESIGNED FOR THE DRIVERS TO BE SAFE AND THE PEDESTRIANS ARE NOT.
SO IT'S, IT'S A PRIORITY THING THAT IF, IF YOU REALLY WANT ADDISON TO GO TO THAT LEVEL, WE DO HAVE TO BE BOLD ENOUGH IN HERE TO SAY SOME OF THOSE WORDS.
BUT WE GET THE FEELING AS A TEAM WITH WHAT WE'VE HEARD THAT TO LIZ'S POINT, IF WE CAN COMMUNICATE IT RIGHT AND EDUCATE ABOUT WHAT WE MEAN BY ALL THESE THINGS, I THINK MOST OF ADDISON WILL GET, WILL GET BEHIND THIS.
DO WE STILL HAVE WORK TO KIND OF GET ALL THE WAY TO THE FINISH LINE WITH WHETHER IT MIGHT BE TO ABBY'S POINT, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY OR THE SENIORS, OR, YOU KNOW, WHOMEVER WE MAYBE, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE CAN GET THERE WITH A FEW MORE CONVERSATIONS IF WE KNOW THAT THE GENERAL DIRECTION ADDISON WANTS TO GO IS WE WANT TO BE A WALKABLE, CONNECTED COMMUNITY.
BRING THE, THE FIRST SUGGESTION.
OH, OH, OH, WE GOTTA LET OUR VICE CHAIR.
UM, I HAVE TO ADMIT, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WALKABILITY UNTIL CONRAD CALLED ME, EXPLAINED IT, AND THEN PUT ME ONTO A WEBSITE CALLED NOT JUST BIKES.
AND IT'S, UH, ON YOUTUBE, NOT JUST BIKES.
AND AFTER I STARTED WATCHING THAT AND SEEING WHAT OTHER MOSTLY EUROPEAN CITIES HAVE DONE, YOU REALIZE THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN HERE.
BUT IT TAKES ALL OF US TO BE EDUCATED ON WHAT IS POSSIBLE BEFORE WE CAN COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WILL GUIDE THE STAFF AND GUIDE THE DEVELOPMENT AND GUIDE THE, THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE.
SO I, FOR ONE, I'M GONNA BUY THAT WALKABILITY BOOK THAT THE ONE THAT YOU SHOWED IT ON YOUR SLIDES.
I DON'T LIKE THE WORD O URBAN.
ONE OTHER THING, UM, I'M FROM DALLAS.
I HAVE ALWAYS LIVED IN A BIG CITY.
WE USED TO LIVE IN WAXAHATCHEE, AND THIS WAS BEFORE IT EXPLODED.
WE'D HAVE THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE DOWN, YOU KNOW, MAIN STREET, AND YOU'D SEE THE KIDS WITH THE FLAGS.
I MEAN, IT WAS TRULY SMALL TOWN.
AND I GET THE SAME FEELING HERE IN ADDISON, BUT WE'RE LOSING OUR WAY A LITTLE BIT.
SO IF WE CAN ALSO BRING IN THAT SMALL TOWN COMMUNITY SENSE OF PLACE, I THINK THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOO.
SO I THINK
I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE THAT WAS PROPOSED TO ADD ABOUT THE URBAN OASIS, UM, THE URBAN OASIS IN THE SPRAWLING METROPOLITAN AREA.
DO WE, DO WE THE GROUP, LIKE ADDING THAT RA RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU WANT TO ADD THAT SENTENCE.
I WOULD CHANGE THE LAST WORDS FROM METROPOLITAN AREA TO METROPLEX THAT WOULD PERSONALIZE IT TO THIS AREA.
AND THIS IS, SO WE DID TALK, THERE WAS SO MUCH CONVERSATION LAST TIME ABOUT OASIS AND WE, WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT, AND I, THERE ARE A FEW CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF THAT OASIS CAN INDICATE YOU'RE SECLUDED, YOU'RE BY YOURSELF, WHICH GOES COMPLETELY AGAINST THE CONCEPT OF YOU'RE CONNECTED AND IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERYTHING.
SO I PERSONALLY STRUGGLE WITH THAT
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WORD.SUE IS A BIG FAN OF THAT WORD,
I, BUT I THINK IT CONNECTED TO YOURSELF AND TO THE REGION.
TO ME, TO ME, OASIS IS SHANGRILA, YOU KNOW? OOH,
UH, YEAH, I, I DON'T SEE IT AS ISOLATING.
UH, ADDISON IS AN URBAN, ADDISON IS AN URBAN OASIS, CENTRALLY LOCATED WITHIN AND CONNECTED TO A SPRAWLING METRO PLEXUS.
WHAT I, I GUESS WHAT I FEEL LIKE ONE OF OUR BIGGEST ASSETS IS IN DEFINING WHO WE ARE BY WAY OF SAYING, THIS IS WHO WE ARE AND THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO GET FROM THERE.
TO ME, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ASSETS WE HAVE IS WE ARE THE HUB OF THE WHEEL.
EVERYTHING'S TO THE NORTH, EVERYTHING'S TO THE SOUTH.
AND WE WERE AT THE, WE WERE AT THE TOP OF THE FLAT PART.
NOW WE'RE SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
UM, AND SO HERE WE ARE, THIS UNIQUE SMALL TOWN FEEL, YOU KNOW, UH, VERY FAMILIAR.
AND TO ME, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO CAPTURE WAS, WE'RE RIGHT SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ALL.
WE'RE NOT LIKE EVERYTHING THAT'S AROUND US, AND YET WE'RE CONNECTED TO ALL OF IT.
SO YOU CAN HAVE THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS, THE SMALL TOWN WITH THE BIG METROPLEX AROUND IT.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS TRYING TO CAPTURE.
AND I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD DEFINE OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT THAT WAY BY WAY OF MOVING FORWARD.
THAT, THAT WAS JUST MY IDEA IN PROPOSING IT MAYBE A SMALL TOWN IN THE SPRAWLING METROPLEX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THE, THE OTHER THING THAT KEPT COMING TO ME WAS THAT WE WERE NOT DEFINING OURSELVES AS TO LOCATION SHOWING THAT, AS SUE SAID EARLIER, WE HAVE JUST AS MANY PEOPLE GOING NORTH AS WE HAVE GOING SOUTH.
WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING WITH ADDISON, EVERYBODY WAS GOING NORTH FROM DOWNTOWN, AND I WAS AMONGST THEM.
BUT, BUT, UH, THE, THERE IS NOT A CLEAR DEFINITION OF LOCATION IN TERMS OF THE DALLAS NORTH TOW WAY, LBJA, HOW WE ARE SO INTERCONNECTED.
UM, BUT BUT UNIQUE AS OUR, AS ITSELF.
I, I THINK THE, THE, THE LOCATION AND THE CONNECTIVITY ARE GONNA GET EXPANDED IN THE, IN THE PLAN.
WE, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO WRITE SECTIONS THAT TALK ABOUT YOUR LOCATION AND, AND REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY.
THE ACCESS TO, I MEAN, THE TOLLWAY TO BELTLINE TO 6 35 TO TO GEORGE.
BUT LIKE THE RAIL, I MEAN, YOU'RE IN THE CENTER OF ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING.
AND THAT WORKS BOTH WAYS TO, TO ABBY'S POINT.
IT PROVIDES ALL THESE DIFFERENT WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO ADDISON.
IT ALSO PROVIDES RESIDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO DARN NEAR ANYWHERE YOU WANT TO GO QUICKLY.
AND THERE ARE VERY FEW PLACES IN THE METROPLEX THAT CAN, THAT CAN SAY THAT.
UM, WE HAVE HAND RAISED IN THE ANGEL.
THE REASON I DON'T LIKE THE WORD OASIS IS 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT SURROUNDED BY DESERT.
I MEAN, AND THIS IS SORT OF AN OBVIOUS, BUT, BUT THAT'S ME TALKING, UH, CONRAD, I TAKE THINGS LITERALLY.
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE WORD ENCLAVE? THAT'S THE WORD.
THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY THOUGHT ENCLAVE.
MY, MY THIRD GRADE ENGLISH LEVEL.
YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T COME UP WITH THE ENCLAVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SPRAWLING METROPLEX.
CONRAD, WHAT WERE YOU GONNA SAY? I WANTED TO SAY, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THIS CONCEPT.
I THINK IT'S TRUE, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT IT DOES FOR US.
I MEAN, YOU PUT THAT IN THE DOCUMENT.
DOES THAT, DOES, DOES THAT DRIVE ANY DECISION MAKING? I MEAN, IT'S A STATEMENT OF WHERE WE ARE, BUT AS FAR AS PLANNING IS CONCERNED, WHAT DOES IT DO ANYTHING FOR US? I, I WOULD ARGUE THAT'S, THERE'S A REASON SOME OF DESCRIBING ADDISON RIGHT NOW WAS NOT IN HERE.
IT'S, IT'S ALREADY A LONG STATEMENT.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S ACKNOWLEDGED THAT.
UM, I, I DON'T, IN TERMS OF INFORMING THE PLAN FORWARD, IT'S, UM, IT'S NOT GONNA DO A WHOLE LOT.
BUT IT DOES ACKNOWLEDGE, IT DOES ACKNOWLEDGE RIGHT UP FRONT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES ADDISON VERY UNIQUE.
IT'S JUST KIND OF HOW YOU WANT TO USE THAT UPFRONT PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, OF THE STATEMENT.
IT'S, I THINK SOME OF YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE IN THERE.
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YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY, IF IF WE FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN UPFRONT, WE WOULD'VE DONE THAT.BUT I STILL WANNA RESPECT, I MEAN, THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS YOU ALL'S DOCUMENT.
SO IF THE MAJORITY WANNA PUT IT IN THERE, I DO LIKE, I I DO FEEL BETTER.
AND I THINK STAFF WOULD FEEL BETTER ABOUT ENCLAVE OVER OASIS BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS.
AL JUST TO, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN INSIGHT AS TO HOW I THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS, AND TO PUT A LITTLE BIT OF A FUN IN THIS, SHOULD WE COMMISSION A CONTEST TO HAVE EVERY BARTENDER IN TOWN COME UP WITH A SIGNATURE DRINK CALLED THE ADDISON OASIS?
I THINK, CAN WE GO THERE AFTER THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME LEGS TO THAT.
YOU CAN BUILD SOMETHING AROUND THAT
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TO ME, THESE ARE ALL WORDS DENOTE STRONG RESPONSES.
WHEN I HEARD ENCLAVE, I FELT LIKE I'M DRAWING THE ROB DRAW BRIDGES UP AND I'M BUILDING THE WALLS AROUND IT.
AND IT JUST DIDN'T, THAT WAS MY IMMEDIATE REACTION.
I MEAN, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE REALLY STRUGGLING WITH IS WE'RE SAYING WE WANT TO BE THE CENTER, BUT WE WANT TO BE CONNECTED.
AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, OASIS SEEMS TO HAVE THIS PERCEPTION THAT, WELL, IT'S A LITTLE BIT ISOLATING ENCLAVE TO MEET AS MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S JUST ME.
SOME ARE NEUTRAL WORDS LIKE NEXUS OR LEXUS ARE, ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY NEUTRAL, BUT THEY DON'T CAPTURE ALL OF IT.
THEY JUST CAPTURE A PIECE OF IT.
SO I'M NOT SURE THAT I HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT INCLUDING ANYTHING IN THIS AREA.
UH, QUITE FRANKLY, I'D BE FINE NOT TO, BUT IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO, UH, I HAVE TO SAY THE, THE OASIS BEATS ENCLAVE
SO I, IT, I MEAN DAVE, DAVE DOES, AND, AND I DO NEED TO, I, I'M STRUGGLING 'CAUSE WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD TO GET OUTTA HERE BY EIGHT.
BUT WE CAN'T KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE, LIKE, WE HAVE TO START TO MOVE FORWARD EITHER OR, OR AS WELL.
SO, UM, THE REST OF THE THE OTHER, THE ONLY OTHER, THE REST OF THE STUFF MOVING IT AROUND IS ALL GOOD.
UM, THE, UH, TO TYLER'S COMMENT ABOUT CLIMATE, SO CLIMATE IS A VERY PO CLIMATE CHANGE.
AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS IS A VERY POLARIZING TOPIC.
UM, I WOULD ARGUE, OR I WOULD, WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT IF WE DO A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OF TREE CANOPY AND MAKING THINGS WALKABLE, QUALITY, WELL LOCATED OPEN SPACE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA PAVE PARADISE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA JUST PAVE OVER EVERYTHING IN ADDISON.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ADDISON HAS DONE VERY WELL IS PRESERVING AND PROTECTING AND DESIGNING GOOD OPEN SPACE TO GO WITH THE MORE, IF YOU DO A LOT OF THESE OTHER THINGS UNDER WALKABLE CONNECTED COMMUNITY, YOU'RE GONNA KIND OF CHECK SOME OF THOSE OTHER BOXES TOO.
UM, I, I WOULD, LET'S LET, LET'S DO THIS.
BEFORE I SAY ANYMORE, LET'S JUST TAKE A, A RAISE OF HANDS IF, IF YOU THINK CLIMATE CHANGE AND, AND RESOURCE STEWARDSHIP, RESOURCE STEWARDSHIP IS ANOTHER WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS, THAT'S A LITTLE SOFTER AND EASIER TO GET AROUND.
BUT RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU THINK WE SHOULD BE VERY UPFRONT ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE IN THE VISION STORY.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK FIRST? YES.
ARE, IS THERE GONNA BE A PORTION OF THE FULLER REPORT THAT WILL DELVE INTO THAT? JUST I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, SINCE STAFF WILL REFERENCE THIS FOR MANY YEARS TO COME, LIKE IS THERE A WAY IF WE DON'T BUILD IT INTO THE VISION STATEMENT, TO PUT IN SOMETHING ABOUT TRYING TO BE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY AWARE AND ENCOURAGING DEVELOPERS TO DO THINGS THAT'LL BE BENEFICIAL IN THAT REGARD SO THAT WE CAN THEN POINT TO IT WHEN DEVELOPERS, IN FACT, THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN ADDISON'S DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS RIGHT NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH RIGHT.
SO JUST LIKE CONTINUING TO MAKE SURE THAT'S BEEFED UP FOR THE FUTURE.
SO IN THE DOCUMENT, YES, IT, BUT DO YOU WANT TO PUT IT PROMINENTLY IN THE VISION STORY? I DIDN'T, I SAW FOUR OR FIVE HANDS.
I THINK IT'S TOO CONTROVERSIAL.
YEAH, I JUST, AND I THINK WE DO, WE DO A LOT THE LEAD CERTIFICATIONS.
WE, WE DO A LOT TO BE AWARE OF, UH, THE ENVIRONMENT INCLUDING PRESERVING TREES AS BEST WE CAN IN TRYING TO BALANCE IT WITH THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
SO, SO, BUT IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE A PACE SETTER, TRENDSETTER BEING ON THE BLEEDING EDGE, AND THIS IS 25 YEARS FROM NOW AND WE WANNA BE THE INNOVATOR, THEN YOU NEED TO INCORPORATE THAT NOW.
SO YOU BUILD IT IN AS YOU DO YOUR DEVELOPMENT CODES AS YOU THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THINKING IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE
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REQUIRED OR EXPECTED.SO THAT'S, I MEAN, I, I, NOT SAYING IT IS ELOQUENTLY, BUT IT, IT'S SOMETHING AND, AND I LIKE WHAT THE SECOND PHRASE YOU SAID SOME SORT OF SUSTAINABLE, UH, THOUGHT PROCESS THROUGH THERE AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE CREDIT FOR LEAD PLANTING TREES AND THAT'S HOW YOU TAKE CREDIT FOR IT NOW, BUT HOW YOU CONTINUE DRIVING IT AND BEING ON THE FORWARD EDGE WE CAN, GOING FORWARD.
I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
I THINK THE NOTION OF CLIMATE CHANGE, WHAT WHATEVER EACH OF US BELIEVES IS JUST A DIVISIVE TOPIC.
THERE ARE JUST PEOPLE WHO THINK IT'S JUST NOT HAPPENING.
AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO THINK IT IS.
AND, AND I AGREE THAT THE PHRASE CLIMATE CHANGE, TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT.
SO IF IT'S SUSTAINABLE, RENEWABLE, THOSE ARE MORE ACCESSIBLE AND ACCEPTABLE WORDS TO BUILD IN THERE.
AND I, I JUST, JUST LIKE, UM, JUST LIKE SOME TRENDS ARE SHIFTING MORE TOWARDS WALKABILITY BEING IMPORTANT TO THE MAJORITY OF DEMOGRAPHICS, YOU KNOW, AS WE, AS WE PUSH TO YOUNGER FOLKS, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, FROM THE BUSINESS SIDE, I THINK SUSTAINABILITY, I WOULD SAY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THERE'S MORE BUSINESSES THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM.
UM, AND YOU HAVE TO THINK, I AM CHALLENGING YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT NOT JUST YOUR OWN PERSPECTIVE, BUT THINK ABOUT WHAT'S COMING WITH, WITH THE YOUNGER GENERATION BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE FUTURE OF WORKFORCE.
THAT IF YOU WANNA KEEP COMMERCIAL IN ADDISON, WHICH IS CRITICAL TO ADDISON IN SO MANY WAYS, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT YOU, YOU'VE GOTTA THINK ABOUT, YOU GOTTA THINK A LITTLE BIT IN THE FUTURE.
AND, AND I THINK THE, THE WAY TO DO THAT IS MAYBE AVOID THE CLIMATE CHANGE TOPIC, BUT TALK ABOUT RESOURCE STEWARDSHIP, TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, NATURAL RESOURCE PRESERVATION.
'CAUSE THE REALITY IS ADDISON'S BEEN DOING THAT FOR 30 YEARS WAY BEFORE MOST OF THE METROPLEX EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
AND COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, IN SOME OF THEIR OPERATIONS, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FINANCIALLY DO A LOT OF THESE ESG TYPES OF THINGS BECAUSE THE ROI ISN'T THERE.
AND YES, IT COMES DOWN TO ROI, BUT IF THEY CAN SHOW THAT THEY ARE LOCATED IN A, IN A VICINITY, IN A COMMUNITY THAT VALUES THAT AND PUSHES THAT FORWARD, THAT POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, HAS SOLAR FARMS AROUND, UH, SOMETHING THAT THEN THAT HELPS.
I, I REALLY DO THINK, AND, AND I AGREE WITH YOU.
I KNOW IT SEEMS A LITTLE WATERED DOWN FROM WHAT YOU WERE GOING FOR, BUT IT, IT PUTS IT OUT THERE AND I AGREE 25 YEARS.
SO IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO WORK IN THAT, WE'RE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR NATURAL RESOURCES FOLKS ARE ALL RIGHT GUYS.
SO COUPLE MORE COMMENTS AND THEN I THINK WHAT WE, WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS ANOTHER DRAFT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMENTS.
BUT WE HAVE A SECOND TOPIC THAT WE DO NEED TO GET TO TONIGHT.
SO QUICK, COUPLE MORE COMMENTS AND THEN LET'S MOVE ON.
I, I DO WANNA FIGHT FOR THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT.
UM, WITH ALL DUE RESPECTS TO EVERYONE'S FEELINGS ABOUT THE ISSUE, CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT GONNA BE LIKE NICE TO US.
IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S NOT GONNA REALLY LIKE CARE HOW WE FEEL ABOUT IT.
AND THIS IS SUPPORTED BY THE GREAT EXTENT OF SCIENCE THAT IS OUT THERE TODAY.
UM, SO I THINK GETTING AHEAD OF IT, I THINK SHE SAID IT FINE.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, NO, NO, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO BACK DOWN.
I THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE SOMETHING RELATED TO CLIMATE RESILIENCY IN THERE BECAUSE IT IS RAPIDLY BECOMING A REALITY AND TRYING TO DANCE AROUND PEOPLE'S FEELINGS.
WE WE'RE ABOUT 30 YEARS PAST THAT.
AND I THINK IT'S A STAY IN THE, I I SEE, I SEE BOTH, I SEE BOTH SIDES OF THIS.
I THINK THE RIGHT SET OF WORDS TO USE IS TO AVOID THE ACTUAL TERM CLIMATE CHANGE, BECAUSE THAT DOES BRING UP, NOT THAT IT'S NOT REAL, BUT IT DOES POLARIZE THE ISSUE.
I THINK THIS FOCUS MIGHT, ME PERSONALLY, I BELIEVE THE FOCUS SHOULD BE ON SUSTAINABILITY.
IT SHOULD BE ON RENEWABILITY, IT SHOULD BE ON THINGS LIKE ELIMINATING WASTE STREAM.
AND RATHER THAN DEBATE THE ACTUAL WORDS, I WOULD FALL BACK TO THE SAME DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD ON, UM, I EVEN ESCAPES YOU RIGHT NOW, THE ADDISON WAY DEFINITION.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THEN, TOM, I SAW YOU NODDING YOUR HEAD UP AND DOWN, DOESN'T BELONG THERE.
IF WE ALREADY ADDRESS IT SOMEPLACE IN THE CITY CHARTER SOMEPLACE, LET'S FIND THAT REFERENCE.
LET'S CITE IT AND LET'S PUT SOME LEVEL OF HARDY ENDORSEMENT THAT THESE THINGS OUGHT TO BE MORE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PUT FORTH AND SHOULD BE THE CENTER OF IT.
IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN INTERNAL COMMUTER SYSTEM, MAYBE IT ALL OUGHT TO BE ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
SO I THINK RATHER THAN FIND THE RIGHT WORDS, LET'S FIND WHERE IT IS AND LET'S JUST SAY WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS AND WANT THIS
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TO BECOME, YOU KNOW, MORE PROMINENT.RIGHT? I'M, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE WORDS HERE, BUT YOU GET WHAT I NEED.
UM, SO THE NEXT, THE NEXT STEP HERE IS GOING TO BE, AND I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT PLACE TYPES NEXT, BUT WE'RE NEXT FRIDAY THE 26TH, WE'RE GONNA ROLL OUT THE, THE VIRTUAL ROOM ON THE, THE WEBSITE.
UM, THERE'S GONNA BE STATIONS FOR, AND I'LL, I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THE, JUST KIND OF THE TEMPLATE ROOM LOOKS LIKE RIGHT, RIGHT NOW.
BUT THERE, THE ASSETS, VALUES, ASPIRATIONS, THOSE TOP FIVE ARE GONNA BE ON THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME IN AND BASICALLY RANK THOSE IN, IN THEIR ORDER OF, YOU KNOW, HOW STRONGLY THEY FEEL ABOUT THEM.
AND THEN THERE'LL BE THE ABILITY TO ADD ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS FOR ANY OF THAT THAT FOLKS WANT TO ADD IN THE VISION.
THE, THE NEXT VERSION OF THE VISION STORY IS GONNA BE UP THERE WITH BASICALLY A THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN AND THEN A COMMENT THING.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD ASK YOU GUYS AT THIS POINT, YOU'VE HAD THREE ROUNDS NOW TO GIVE US COMMENTS.
WE'LL TAKE THIS, WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER, ANOTHER SHOT TO TRY TO GET IT AS CLOSE AS WE CAN.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT OUT ON THE, THE, THE VIRTUAL ROOM.
AND YOU GUYS CAN COMMENT IN THERE JUST WITH THE REST OF THE FOLKS TO TRY TO GIVE US UP OR DOWN OR, OR ANY REMAINING WORDS.
BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE AND WE'RE, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE ONBOARD WITH THE WALKABLE CONNECTED COMMUNITY IS THE BIG VISION, DENISE, STILL.
WELL LET'S JUST, SO LET'S PAUSE THERE.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PLACE TYPES AND JUST HOPEFULLY OVER THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AS WE START TO HASH OUT SOME OF THE DETAILS, WE'LL GET THE REST OF YOU GUYS KIND OF UNDER, UNDER THE TENT, OR IF WE FIND A FATAL FLAW IN THIS AND WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, ADJUST, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY COME BACK AND, AND DO THAT.
I'M JUST GONNA INTRODUCE THIS QUICKLY AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA ASK YOU FOR ANY FEEDBACK TONIGHT.
ALL OF THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE VIRTUAL ROOM AS WELL.
SO WHAT PLACE TYPES ARE EACH OF YOU GUYS? THERE'S, THERE'S A HANDOUT IN THE MIDDLE OF EACH TABLE.
THERE'S JUST ONE FOR EACH TABLE.
SO YOU'LL HAVE TO, UM, HAVE TO SHARE.
UM, I THINK THIS WAS SENT OUT IN THE PACKETS TOO.
WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS THIS, UH, TREND OF MIXING OF USES, INTEGRATING THINGS CLOSER TOGETHER.
UM, AND WHAT PLACE TYPES DO IS GIVE US THE ABILITY TO MIX USES TOGETHER IN DIFFERENT CONTEXTS.
SO FOR ADDISON, RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT FIVE MAIN PLACE TYPES.
THERE'S ONE, UH, ALONG THE HIGHEST INTENSITY, ONE, I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M POINTING UP THERE.
THE HIGHEST INTENSITY ONE IS ALONG THE TOLLWAY.
THIS IS CALLED THE HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CENTER.
SO THIS IS THE HIGHEST VERTICAL, THE MOST, THE MOST INTENSE DENSITY, ALL OF YOUR OFFICE, ALL THE STUFF ALONG THE, THE TOLLWAY.
UM, ANY OF THE NEWER MIXED USE, UM, VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO GET.
UM, THE NEXT, THE NEXT ONE, THE MAIN PLACE TYPE ACROSS THE MAJORITY OF ADDISON IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING URBAN VILLAGE.
SO THIS IS LIKE ADDISON CIRCLE, UM, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE REST OF THE CITY.
SO GOING A LITTLE MORE VERTICAL, UM, MIX OF USES.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THAT IN INSIDE THIS THAT STAFF.
TO JAY'S POINT EARLIER, STAFF WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADMINISTER AND WORK WITH DEVELOPERS TO BUILD DIFFERENT THINGS IN DIFFERENT PLACES THAT FIT THAT CONTEXT.
UM, THE NEXT ONE IS I'LL HIT RESIDENTIAL LIVING NEXT.
THERE'S REALLY TWO AREAS, THE TWO YELLOW AREAS THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL LIVING.
THAT THAT IS PRETTY MUCH, THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.
IT'S EXCLUSIVELY RESIDENTIAL LIVING.
YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL LIVING INSIDE THAT.
SO YOU MIGHT HAVE TOWN HOMES OR DUPLEXES WITH YOUR SINGLE FAMILY.
UM, IT GIVES, AGAIN, IT GIVES STAFF FLEXIBILITY TO GO WITH THE MARKET.
IF THE MARKET WANTS TO START TO, YOU KNOW, PRESERVE OR ENHANCE, INCREMENTALLY ENHANCE SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS TO, TO MIX IN SOME DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING IN THERE.
BUT IN RESIDENTIAL YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THE COMMERCIAL STUFF COME IN.
IT'S GONNA STAY A RESIDENTIAL SETTING, RESIDENTIAL CONTEXT AND YOUR, UH, YOUR COMMERCIAL STUFF WAS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, AROUND, AROUND THE EDGES.
UM, THE NEXT ONE IS THE INNO, THE INWOOD INNOVATION AREA.
IT'S RIGHT HERE DOWN AROUND INWOOD.
THERE'S SOME SPECIFIC THINGS IN THAT AREA WITH THE AIRPORT.
THERE'S CON SOME CONSTRAINTS THERE WITH WHAT YOU CAN DO HEIGHT WISE, DEVELOPMENT WISE, WHAT CAN GO IN THERE.
SO WE HAVE A SPECIFIC PLACE TYPE FOR THAT.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE AVIATION AND, AND INDUSTRY.
SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.
IT'S THE AIRPORT AND ALL THE, THE AVIATION INDUSTRY AROUND THAT.
SO THERE'S JUST FIVE, KEEPS IT SIMPLE.
UM, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN THE PLAN, WE'RE GONNA BUILD OUT PAGES LIKE THIS, THAT IT HAS WORDS THAT DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT IT IS.
A LOT OF REPRESENTATIVE IMAGES, THE IMAGES THAT ARE IN THERE FOR EACH OF THESE PLACE TYPES RIGHT NOW ARE JUST A STARTING POINT.
MOST OF THEM ARE FROM ADDISON.
WE'VE PULLED SOME EXAMPLES FROM
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SOME OTHER, UH, SOME OTHER PLACES AS WELL.UM, THERE'S STILL PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK TO DO TO REFINE THE LIMITS, UH, OF THESE.
WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF, OF ITERATIONS OF BACK AND FORTH WITH STAFF.
UM, I DID WANNA BRING UP ONE THING TONIGHT, JUST THAT, WELL, TWO THINGS THAT THE CITY MANAGER BROUGHT UP THAT I WANNA PUT OUT THERE FOR YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT.
AND WHEN YOU GO TO THE VIRTUAL ROOM TO, TO GIVE YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS, THINK ABOUT THIS.
THE FIRST ONE IS RIGHT WHERE WE'RE AT ADDISON CIRCLE.
ADDISON CIRCLE RIGHT NOW IS IN URBAN VILLAGE.
UM, BUT WITH THE TOD COMING WITH THE RAIL STATION, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INTEREST TO HAVE MORE VERTICAL, A LITTLE HIGHER VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE TRAIN STATION.
AND THE MANAGER'S CONCERN WAS, WELL IF WE DO THAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, ARE PEOPLE OVER HERE GONNA GET CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE ADDISON CIRCLE, TOD TYPE DEVELOPMENT AND PUT THAT NEXT TO THEM.
NOW FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT, THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT.
THERE'S A LEVEL OF DISCRETION THERE THAT THEY WOULDN'T DO IT.
BUT WHAT WE COULD DO IS TAKE THE ADDISON CIRCLE AREA AND ACTUALLY MAKE IT THE HIGH INTENSITY CENTER.
WHAT THE, THE SAME AS THE, THE HIGH INTENSITY URBAN CENTER.
THE SAME THAT'S ALONG THE TOLLWAY.
'CAUSE THAT GIVES YOU THE HIGHER DENSITY.
UM, THE OTHER OPTION IS, YOU KNOW, WE DID THIS FOR INWOOD.
WE CREATED A SPECIAL PLACE TYPE FOR THE INWOOD AREA BECAUSE THERE'S SPECIFIC CHARACTERISTICS THERE.
WE COULD MAKE AN ADDISON OR A TRANSIT CENTER PLACE TYPE OR A TOD PLACE TYPE JUST FOR THAT AREA.
BOTH WOULD WORK, BUT, BUT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD WORK TO TAKE THE HIGH INTENSITY ONE AND APPLY THAT TO ADDISON CIRCLE.
'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF ELEMENTS OF THE HIGH INTENSITY ONE TOO, AS FAR AS WALKABLE.
AND IS THERE ANY DISADVANTAGES, ADVANTAGES OF WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING OF ONE VERSUS THE OTHER? I THINK THAT'S A STAFF, THAT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? USUALLY WITH MOST STAFF, SHE'S ASKING IF THERE WAS AN ADVANTAGE OR DISADVANTAGE TO EITHER WAY.
MOST STAFF WILL SAY THE FEWER YOU HAVE, THE BETTER.
BUT THAT REQUIRES TRUST WITH STAFF TO ADMINISTER IT.
AND YOU'VE GOTTA GET YOUR, YOUR CODES KIND OF LINED UP WITH, WITH EACH OF THESE.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHERE, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO VALIDATE THAT THE PURPOSE OF A COMP PLAN AND LAND USE THAT IS DESIGNATED TO FUTURE, UM, IT'S FUTURE LAND USE DEC DECISIONS, IT'S GENERALLY BETTER TO HAVE THESE TYPES OF MAPS BE MORE BROAD AND FLUID SO THAT STAFF HAS DISCRETION TO APPLY THAT IN THE APPROPRIATE CONTEXT.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET TO SITE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S PARCEL BASED, THAT'S GONNA BE ADMINISTERED THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT CODE, UM, WHICH WORKS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COMP PLAN, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.
SO, UM, YES, WE DEFINITELY PREFER TO HAVE FEWER LESS PRESCRIPTIVE PLACE TYPES.
UM, AND I WOULD JUST DRAW ATTENTION TO URBAN VILLAGE SPECIFICALLY WITH THE NARRATIVE THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE VIRTUAL ROOM.
WE DID GO THROUGH A COUPLE ROUNDS OF, UM, REVISIONS ON THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDED CONTEXT WITHIN THAT BECAUSE ADDISON CIRCLE IS IN THERE AND IT'S VERY UNIQUE.
UM, AND SO THERE'S SOME SUBURBAN ADJACENT CONTEXT FOR FUTURE URBAN VILLAGE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF INTENSITY OR BUILDING FORM THAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE COMPARED TO THOSE THAT ARE ADJACENT TO HIGH INTENSITY USES.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO, TO READ THAT NARRATIVE SPECIFICALLY.
I HAVE A KIND OF FOLLOW ON QUESTION.
SO THE URBAN VILLAGE TO ME IS SO BROAD AND I, I TRY, I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO GET ALL THE CONTEXT.
I KNOW THIS IS A FORM-BASED PROCESS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT URBAN VILLAGE, YOU'VE GOT APARTMENTS, YOU'VE GOT RESTAURANTS, YOU'VE GOT, UH, JUST A, A FAIRLY WIDE PLETHORA OF, OF OPTIONS.
HAS THERE BEEN DISCUSSION OF MAYBE BIFURCATING THAT OR CREATING TWO, MAYBE A RESIDENTIAL URBAN AND A RETAIL URBAN, OR, I DUNNO, IT JUST FEELS LIKE THAT'S SUCH A BROAD PARAMETER.
UH, IT'S BROAD ON PURPOSE BECAUSE IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ELEMENTS OF THE WALKABLE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA HAVE THE DIFFERENT, YOU GOTTA HAVE THE DIFFERENT DESTINATIONS, THE MIX OF USES.
IF, IF YOU WANT NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE TRULY WALKABLE, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE A LOT OF THINGS CLOSER TOGETHER.
SO, UM, A LOT OF THE URBAN VILLAGE COMES DOWN MORE IN MY MIND TO THE, TO THE DESIGN OF THE, THE PUBLIC REALM AND THEN THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND ON STAFF TO MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT MIX OF USES, UH, AND THINGS IN THERE.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE LOCAL, THE, THE SMALLER BUSINESSES ARE GONNA DEPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WALKABLE TRAFFIC AND HAVING MORE PEOPLE CLOSER TOGETHER, UH, THAN MAYBE THE CAR CENTRIC TYPES OF BUSINESSES WOULD, WOULD
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BE.BUT URBAN VILLAGE, I, I WILL JUST, ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT WAS, DO WE NEED, UM, DO WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE A CORRIDOR ONE RIGHT ALONG THE BELTLINE CORRIDOR OR ALONG MIDWAY, UM, THIS TIES BACK, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW IT TIES BACK TO THE VISION.
IF WE'RE REALLY COMMITTED TO A, A WALKABLE CONNECTED COMMUNITY, YOU WANT THE URBAN VILLAGE RIGHT UP TO THE BELT LINE RIGHT AWAY, RIGHT? SO IF YOU CREATE A CORRIDOR, ONE, YOU'RE GONNA END UP WITH KEEPING WHAT'S ALONG BELT LINE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS PARKING LOTS WITH THE BUSINESSES BACK OFF THE, THE STREET, WHICH THAT CAN WORK TOO.
BUT WHAT WE WOULD DO FROM A CONNECTIVITY STANDPOINT IS WE WOULD LOOK AT ONE BLOCK SOUTH OF BELTLINE AND MAKE THAT THE PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR TO TRY TO GET EAST WEST.
BUT UM, BUT THIS, THIS IS WHERE STAFF AND OUR TEAM HAVE LANDED IS YOU WANT, YOU WANT THE FEWER, THE BETTER.
YOU KNOW, THAT URBAN VILLAGE, OBVIOUSLY RIGHT UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF CONTEXT THAN YOU WOULD RIGHT UP AGAINST BELTLINE ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO I WOULD SAY JUST FOR NOW, READ WHEN YOU SEE IT, READ THE DESCRIPTIONS, LOOK AT THE IMAGES, SEE IF YOU CAN GET COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
UM, IF I CAN, UM, THIS IS WHERE I WANNA PULL UP THE WEBSITE JUST IN A, IN A SECOND.
SO, SO NEXT STEPS HERE FOR US, THE VIRTUAL ROOM THAT I JUST MENTIONED, IT'S GONNA OPEN NEXT FRIDAY.
UM, IT'S GONNA GO OUT TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE GONNA PROMOTE IT A A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR SOME VALIDATION, PRIORI PRIORITIZATION ON THOSE ASSETS AND VALUES AND ASPIRATIONS, COMMENTS FOR PEOPLE TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL ONES SO THAT WHEN WE'RE BUILDING THE PLAN, WE CAN SAY THESE WERE THE ONES THAT WERE THE MOST POPULAR WITH THE DATA AND THE WHOLE PROCESS.
BUT THE COMMUNITY STILL VALUES SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS AS WELL.
THE IDENTITY STATEMENT WILL BE A THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN WITH COMMENTS.
AND THEN IN THE THE PLACE TYPES YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO IN AND FOR EACH OF THE PLACE TYPES, LOOK AT A SERIES OF DIFFERENT IMAGES OF DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES AND CHECK THE ONES THAT YOU FEEL FIT IN EACH OF THOSE PLACE TYPES.
REMIND ME, DOES THAT CONTROL THAT? LIKE ONE PERSON GETS ONE OPINION IN THERE VERSUS ME BEING GO, GO SUBMIT MY OPINION FIVE INTO 10 DIFFERENT TIMES.
I MEAN, IS THERE CHECKS AND BALANCES TO THAT? I DON'T THINK IT HAS A, I DON'T THINK IT HAS CONTROL ON PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO VOTE MULTIPLE TIMES.
ALTHOUGH WE CAN, WE CAN, IT DOESN'T CONTROL IT, BUT WE CAN TRACK IT, WE CAN SEE THE IP ADDRESS.
IF SOMEONE, IF SOMEONE WANTED TO BOUNCE AROUND FROM DIFFERENT COMPUTERS INTO IT, WE WOULDN'T KNOW.
BUT IF WE SEE THE SAME IP AD, THE A BOT OR SOMETHING IN THERE GOING, UM, AS FAR AS YOU ALL, SO MAY WE HAVE TWO, TWO MEETINGS WITH YOU ALL NEXT MONTH.
WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE A WHOLE LOT OF JUST CONVERSATION LIKE THIS, JUST YOU GUYS CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT YOU LIKE ABOUT HOUSING IN ADDISON, WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE ABOUT HOUS, HOW, HOW, YOU KNOW, HOUSING IN ADDISON, HOW DO WE START TO MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS MORE WALKABLE AND COMPLETE.
WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT ALL THAT ON THE NINTH.
AND THEN THE 30TH WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE'LL SHOW YOU IMAGES AND EXAMPLES OF HOW A CORRIDOR LIKE BELT LINE GOT TURNED INTO MORE OF A COMPLETE STREET.
WE, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU, WE WANNA, THOSE TWO MEETINGS ARE ABOUT CONVERSATION, A LITTLE BIT OF EDUCATION, SHOWING YOU GUYS WHAT'S POSSIBLE AND THEN GETTING SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL ON.
YEAH, WE REALLY WANNA PUSH THE NEEDLE HERE OR STAY AWAY FROM THAT.
UM, IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, THE 19TH IS WHEN WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE VIRTUAL ROOM SO THAT WE CAN START TO CAPTURE ALL THAT FEEDBACK AND BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK TO YOU ALL IN THE COMMUNITY IN JUNE, WHICH THE END OF JUNE IS OUR NEXT BIG COMMUNITY MEETING, WHICH WE'RE GONNA START TO TALK ABOUT THAT PLACE TYPE MAP, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MAP, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CALLING A, A SPECTRUM OF CHANGE MAP.
SO WE'RE GONNA START TO GO IN AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT AREAS AND SAY, WE WANT, WE WANT THIS AREA TO STAY EXACTLY AS IT IS, OR WE WANT, WE THINK THIS AREA NEEDS TO BE SCRAPED AND COMPLETELY REDEVELOPED, OR THIS AREA MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, MORE INCREMENTAL, YOU KNOW, INCREMENTAL TYPE CHANGE.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE PLACE TYPES THAT SHOW KIND OF, HERE'S WHAT WE THINK THINGS NEED TO LOOK LIKE, ULTIMATELY WE'RE GONNA START TO GET AT, YOU KNOW, DO WE GO PARTNER WITH DEVELOPERS TO REDEVELOP THIS WHOLE AREA RIGHT NOW? OR DO WE DO SOME OF THIS STUFF A LITTLE MORE INCREMENTALLY, YOU KNOW, TO FIT THE CONTEXT THAT'S THERE TODAY.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE I JUST PREVIEW WHAT THE VIRTUAL ROOM IS GONNA LOOK LIKE? YEAH, I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
UM, AS FAR AS THE VIRTUAL READING ROOM IS CONCERNED, IF PEOPLE ARE REVIEWING THAT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UH, VISION STATEMENT TO SEE WHAT THEY THINK, DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT DON'T KILL ME.
DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE OKAY TO PRESENT LIKE THREE DIFFERENT VISION STATEMENTS THAT INCORPORATE ALL THE DIFFERENT IDEAS AND LET PEOPLE CHOOSE AMONG ONE OF THE THREE INSTEAD OF HAVING PEOPLE TRY TO WORDSMITH JUST THROWING THAT OUT? I, SO IT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND UM, I FEEL LIKE, UM, THAT'S JUST A,
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THAT'S A TOUGH ONE TO NECESSARILY START TO GO DOWN BECAUSE WE AT, AT, THERE'S A CERTAIN LEVEL YOU KIND OF HAVE TO TRUST OUR TEAM TO SEE ALL OF THE INPUT THAT WE'VE GOTTEN AND WORKING WITH YOU ALL TO REFINE IT.AND YOU ALL WERE PICKED BECAUSE YOU'RE A CROSS SECTION REPRESENTATION OF THE BROADER COMMUNITY.
UM, USUALLY WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH OPPOSITION.
THERE MIGHT BE A FEW COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT SAY A WORD HERE OR THERE.
UM, IF WE GIVE THEM THREE OPTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH A THIRD, A THIRD, A THIRD, AND THEN WE'RE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE WERE, UM, BEFORE.
SO IT TENDS TO WORK BETTER OF DO YOU LIKE THIS OR DO YOU NOT? UM, AND THEN TELL US IN THE COMMENTS WHAT YOU THINK AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH YOU ALL AND TAKE ONE MORE SHOT OF LIKE, WHAT DID WE HEAR? YOU KNOW, DOES THIS NEED TO BE CHANGED AT ALL? THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE USUALLY USE THAT I WOULD PREFER TO STICK WITH.
OKAY, LET ME GET MY OTHER, ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS, THIS IS JUST THE TEMPLATE WITH, IF YOU REMEMBER RYAN AND BRIA FROM CIVIC BRANDAND, THEY WERE HERE FOR ONE OF THE, THE RECENT TRIPS.
SO THIS IS WHAT THE VIRTUAL ROOM LOOKS LIKE.
UM, IT'S GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOOLS IN IT THAT WE CAN USE, BUT I'M GONNA, SO I'LL GO THROUGH 'EM, BUT I'M GONNA SHOW YOU THE ONES THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE.
WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A VIDEO IN THERE.
FOR THIS ONE, THE MAPPING TOOL, WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA HAVE, SO THIS IS ONE WE HAD AT ONE OF THE, THE LAST COMMUNITY MEETING.
WE'RE EXPANDING IT WITH SOME OTHER CATEGORIES.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE FOUR, UM, BASICALLY FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT PIN TYPES THAT YOU CAN TAKE A PIN, YOU CAN DROP IT ANYWHERE IN THE CITY AND PUT A COMMENT.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANNA PRESERVE THIS AREA AS IS, DO YOU WANNA REDEVELOP THIS AREA? YOU KNOW, IS THIS A CONNECT? IS THIS A PLACE WHERE, UM, CONNECTIVITY NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED? THERE'S SOME SPECIFIC TYPES OF PINS.
SO IT GIVES US VERY GEOGRAPHIC SPECIFIC COMMENTS.
UM, WHERE MY, SO THAT ONE YOU'LL SEE IN THERE, UM, AN IDEA AS WELL.
YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS ONE LATER WHEN WE GET TO IMPLEMENTATION, IT'S BASICALLY PEOPLE CAN DROP IN.
IT'S LIKE VIRTUAL POST-IT NOTES.
THEY CAN PUT AN IDEA IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND PEOPLE CAN THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN, ADD THEIR OWN.
THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT'S GONNA COME LATER.
IT'S GONNA BE LIKE, IF YOU HAD A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO SPEND AND THESE THINGS COST A CERTAIN AMOUNT, HOW WOULD YOU SPEND YOUR, HOW'D YOU SPEND YOUR MONEY? OKAY, PRIORITY MAKING, I'M GONNA CLICK INTO THIS ONE.
UM, SO THIS IS KIND OF WHAT THE VALUES, ASSETS, AND ASPIRATIONS WILL LOOK LIKE.
IT'S GONNA HAVE THE FIVE OR SIX, UM, ALL IN HERE AND YOU CAN JUST DRAG AND DROP AND PRIORITIZE THESE, AND THEN YOU SUBMIT IT.
AND THAT'LL TELL US FOR THAT GROUP, YOU KNOW, HOW PEOPLE RANK THOSE, THOSE VALUES AND COMMENTS.
OH, THIS ISN'T THE MOST CONVENIENT WAY TO DO IT, BUT I'M JUST DOING IT THE FASTEST WAY HERE.
OKAY, SO PRIORITY RANKING, HERE WE GO.
AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE FOR THE PLACE TYPES IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
SO FOR EACH PLACE TYPE, IT'LL HAVE THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE PLACE TYPE IS.
YOU'LL SEE THE MAP, BUT THEN THERE'S GONNA HAVE, UM, THERE'LL BE A SERIES OF IMAGES IN HERE AND YOU JUST CHECK, YOU JUST SELECT ALL THE ONES THAT YOU THINK FIT IN THAT PLACE TYPE.
SO IT'S INTENTIONALLY, IT'S GONNA HAVE A LOT OF IMAGES IN THERE THAT WE FEEL LIKE ARE DEFINITELY IN THE PLACE TYPE.
AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT ON EITHER SIDE THAT KIND OF PUSH THE LIMITS.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA GET A SENSE FOR HOW DENSE PEOPLE WANT TO GO IN URBAN VILLAGE OR RESIDENTIAL LIVING.
HOW FAR CAN WE, YOU KNOW, CAN.
SO, UH, AND A LOT OF THE IMAGES THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN HERE ARE GONNA BE PRETTY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE HANDOUTS.
WE MAY HAVE A FEW NEWER ONES TO, TO ADD IN THERE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, IT, BUT IT GIVES US A TON OF INFORMATION ON THE, ON THE BACKEND.
SO, UM, AND IT, IT ALLOWS US, WE CAN GET FEEDBACK FROM STAFF, WE CAN GET IT FROM CPAC, WE CAN GET IT FROM THE WHOLE COMMUNITY ALL IN ONE PLACE.
SO FOR, FOR OUR TEAM, IT MAKES IT, UH, A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO, UM, TO CAPTURE ALL THIS INFORMATION.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ON THE, ON THE BACKEND, YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT YOUR EMAIL IF YOU WANT TO.
UM, BUT WE DON'T REQUIRE THAT.
SO IF PEOPLE WANNA SUBMIT IT ANONYMOUSLY, THEY CAN.
BUT TO, TO DENISE'S POINT, IT WILL TRACK THE IP ADDRESS SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE CAN GO QUERY AND SAY, DO WE HAVE THE SAME, IT'S THE SAME ONE VOTING 10 TIMES.
SO TYLER, YOU KNOW, DON'T BE GOING IN THERE AND PICKING ALL THE BIKE IMAGES OVER AND OVER AND OVER
I THINK WE'RE AT EIGHT O'CLOCK, 7 58.
OKAY, WELL, UH, BUT BEFORE WE, UH, BEFORE WE GO, UH, LIKE TO INVITE ANYBODY WHO'S NOT HERE, UH, BUT WHO MIGHT BE HERE, WHO WANTS TO, UH,
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SPEAK TO US ABOUT ANYTHING, HEARING NO ONE WE'RE ADJOURNED.