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GOOD EVENING.UH, CALL TO ORDER THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WORK SESSION FOR, UH, TUESDAY, APRIL 16TH, 2024.
UH, WE HAVE ALL COMMISSIONERS IN ATTENDANCE AND ARE READY TO BEGIN.
[1. Status update on recent Planning and Zoning Commission cases and planning policy items.]
IS A STATUS UPDATE ON ANY RECENT PLANNING AND SITTING COMMISSION CASES.LESLIE KNIGHT, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UH, SO THE LAST CASES THAT YOU HEARD WAS THE, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE WESTWOOD SCHOOL, UH, ON UM, ADJACENT TO PROTON, BUT OFF MIDWAY AT MIDWAY ATRIUMS. UH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THAT ON APRIL 9TH THEY DID, UM, APPROVE THE CONDITION, WHICH, UM, THE P AND Z ADDED REGARDING THE MATERIAL AND HEIGHT OF THE FENCE.
AND THEY ALSO ADDED A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS REGARDING, UM, RELOCATING THE DUMPSTER SO IT WASN'T IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND THEY ALSO ADDED, UM, THEY ADDED ANOTHER CONDITION AND I APOLOGIZE, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT IS EXACTLY, BUT IT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY COUNSEL.
SO THAT WILL MOVE ON THROUGH THE CIVIL AND BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.
UM, ONE OTHER ITEM I WANTED TO ADDRESS AS WELL IS WE HAVE A NEW PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION COMMISSIONER JOIN US AS WELL, TYLER SUMMERS.
SO WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING TO BE, UH, PART OF THE COMMISSION.
THOSE ARE ALL THE UPDATES I HAVE.
[2. Discussion regarding items on the agenda for the March 19, 2024 Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting: February 29, 2024 Joint City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes Special Use Permit request for Rodeo Goat (1908-SUP/14941 Midway Road) Planned Development amendment for One Addison Place (1912-Z/4900 Arapaho Road) Planned Development amendment for Vitruvian, Block 300 (1904-Z) Rezoning request for Addison Circle Station - Phase 1 Amendment (1910-Z) Development Plan amendment request for the office & parking structure at Addison Circle Station (1894-Z) Development Plan amendment request for the multifamily tower at Addison Circle Station (1895-Z)]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION OF AGENDA ITEMS. UM, THE FIRST ONE BEING, WAIT A MINUTE, AGENDA ITEMS, ANY COMMENTARY IN REGARDS TO THE FEBRUARY 20 THAT'S NOT RIGHT.SO THAT'S THE FEBRUARY 29TH JOINT MEETING.
THAT WAS RELATED TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE DISCUSSION THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAD WITH UH, OKAY.
BUT THERE'S NOT A NOTE ON HERE ABOUT THE REGULAR MINUTES, SO ISN'T THERE, SO THE MINUTES FOR THE LAST MEETING, UHHUH, WHICH WAS MARCH 19TH, UHHUH, UH, DID NOT GET COMPLETED IN TIME FOR THE PACKET.
SO THOSE WILL COME FORWARD AT THE NEXT MEETING.
SO WITH REGARDS TO THE JOINT COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING ZONING MEETING FROM FEBRUARY 29TH, UH, 2024, DID ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR EDITS THAT WERE NEEDED TO THOSE? NO.
NEXT ITEM, SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR RODEO GOAT 1908 SUP 1 49 41 MIDWAY ROAD.
MS. LESLIE? YES, THIS IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR RODEO GOAT.
UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO OCCUPY THE FORMER SPRING CREEK BARBECUE SITE.
UH, THEY ARE LARGELY MAINTAINING, UH, THE EXTERNAL SHELL OF THE BUILDING AND MOST OF THE SITE CONDITIONS, UH, THEY ARE RESTORING THE LANDSCAPING.
IT HAS, UM, HAD A, UH, EXPERIENCED A LACK OF MAINTENANCE OVER THE MANY YEARS OF VACANCY.
SO THEY'RE RESTORING IT TO THE ORIGINAL INTENT TO, TO BRING IT BACK UP TO CODE.
UM, AND THEY ARE PROPOSING TO ADD A APPROXIMATELY 1700 SQUARE FOOT PATIO ON THE FRONT OF THAT BUILDING ADJACENT TO MIDWAY ROAD.
UH, THAT WILL BE KIND OF AN OPEN AIR, UM, PATIO.
THERE WILL BE A STEEL PERGOLA, UM, STRUCTURE SUSPENDED OVER IT, UH, OR NOT SUSPENDED, BUT CONSTRUCTED OVER IT WITH THE INTENT THAT LANDSCAPING AND VINES WILL EVENTUALLY GROW UP THAT THAT PERGOLA TO PROVIDE SOME SHADE.
UM, THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING SOME, SOME MINOR INTERIOR MODIFICATIONS, BUT ONCE AGAIN, LARGELY, UM, MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING AND THE STYLE OF THE BUILDING.
UH, ONE THING I DID WANT TO NOTE IS THEY, WITH THE PROJECT, UM, THERE WAS SOME MINOR MODIFICATION TO THE, UM, TO THIS PARKING.
SO WITH THE MIDWAY ROAD REVITALIZATION PROJECT, THE TOWN ACQUIRED RIGHT OF WAY AND MAKING MANY OF THOSE PARKING SPACES THAT FACE TOWARDS MIDWAY ROAD NON-CONFORMING 'CAUSE THEY WEREN'T DEEP ENOUGH.
UH, THEY'VE CONVERTED THOSE TO PARALLEL SPACES, THEY'RE STILL SIGNIFICANTLY OVER, UH, THE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING WAS, IS THAT THEY WERE NOT PROPOSING TO REMOVE TREES.
HOWEVER, UPON, UM, INSPECTION BY STAFF, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS, UM, THREE TREES ON SITE THAT WERE IN A, IN A, UM, POSITION THAT THEY WERE POTENTIALLY POSING A SAFETY CONCERN AND THEY WERE, UM, DEAD OR DYING.
AND SO STAFF HAD ASKED THEM TO REMOVE THOSE.
THEY'RE REPLACING THEM WITH ONE EIGHT INCH CALIPER TREE AND TWO SIX INCH CPER TREES.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, THERE IS ANOTHER TREE WHICH IS ACTUALLY ON TOWN PROPERTY, WHICH IS ON THE, UH, WEST PROPERTY LINE.
THAT IS ALL STAFF ALSO ASKS THEM TO REMOVE.
AND THEY'RE ALSO MITIGATING THAT TREE,
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UM, EVEN THOUGH IT IS ON STAFF OR EXCUSE ME, ON TOWN PROPERTY.YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE THAT, UH, THERE IS LANDSCAPING PROPOSED ALONG MIDWAY ROAD THAT IS IN, IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE TOWN'S PLAN FOR THE NEW LANDSCAPING ALONG MIDWAY ROAD.
SO WE COLLABORATED WITH THEM, UH, ON THAT.
AND MUCH OF THAT WILL BE PLANTED, UM, BY THE TOWN THROUGH THAT MIDWAY RE REVITALIZATION PROJECT.
DO YOU HAVE THE DRAWINGS TO PULL UP? PULL UP, UH, 1908.
HEY, LESLIE, WHILE YOU'RE PULLING UP ALL THE DRAWINGS ARE COMING UP, IS OUR PROPERTY LINE RIGHT AT BACK A CURB ON THEIR WEST SIDE? IS THAT KIND OF WHAT IT IS? IS THAT APPROXIMATELY YEAH, SO YOU CAN SEE IN THIS DRAWING ON THE NORTH SIDE? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
WE GO TO NOT THE MORE OF THE TRUE BUILDING AND WHERE THERE'S SEATING.
IF YOU CAN, CAN YOU BLOW IT UP FOR HER TO SEE OR NOT, OR CAN YOU SEE IT LESLIE, WELL ENOUGH? I DO.
SO WHERE IS WITH THE LITTLE HAND, WHERE'S THE OUTDOOR PATIO? IS IT ALL IN THE FRONT? YES.
CURLS AROUND THE SIDE OVER THERE? YEAH, A LITTLE BIT ON THE NORTH SIDE.
UM, SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A SMALL EXISTING PATIO THERE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY USED OR IT WASN'T INTENDED EVER TO, TO BE FORMAL OUTDOOR DINING SPACE.
UM, BUT THERE IS TWO ACTUALLY SMALL CONCRETE PADS THAT ARE EXISTING TODAY.
IF YOU DRIVE OUT THERE, THEY'RE NOT FENCED IN, THEY'RE JUST VISIBLE.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE ORIGINALLY INTENDED AS SECONDARY ENTRANCE POINTS OR LIKE PICKUP FOR, TO GO ORDERS.
UM, BUT THEY WERE THERE AND, AND WITH THE SPRING CREEK BARBECUE RESTAURANT.
AND SO THEY ARE CONTIN PROPOSING TO UTILIZE THOSE ENTRY POINTS, BUT THEY'RE EXPANDING IT, UM, AND ADDING THE PATIO AREA.
SO ON THE BOTTOM OF THIS, OF THIS IMAGE, YOU SEE KIND OF THE, THE DARKER DASH LINE WITH THE LITTLE PLANT MATERIALS THROUGHOUT THAT IS THE EXTERIOR PERIMETER OF THE PATIO.
AND THEN, UM, THERE'S LIKE PICNIC TABLES THROUGHOUT THAT AREA.
AND THEN, UH, IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THAT IS THE BUILDING FACADE HERE.
AND WHAT IS THAT, WHAT ARE THOSE MADE OF THAT PERGOLA? SO THE PERGOLA IS STEEL AND THEN THE, UH, THE POST THE PERIMETER WALL, WHICH IS AROUND THREE TO THREE AND A HALF TO FOUR FEET TALL, UH, THERE, THEY'LL STEEL, EXCUSE ME, THERE'S, UM, LIKE BRAIDED STEEL CABLES AND A CMU WALL.
AND THERE'S, IT'S KIND OF A, A FESTIVE LIKE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME MISSING COMPONENTS.
AND THEN THEY'RE ADDING IN SOME LANDSCAPING.
THEY'RE ADDING IN SOME DESERT WILLOWS, UM, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER LIKE ORNAMENTAL GRASSES THROUGHOUT.
THEY'RE REALLY, UM, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO ANY OF THEIR, UH, RESTAURANTS, THEY REALLY LEAN INTO KIND OF THE RUSTIC, UM, ATMOSPHERE OF A, OF A TEXAS RODEO.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? AND ALL THAT STUFF IS LIKE DECOMPOSED GRANTED IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, RIGHT? FOR SURFACE, FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS CORRECT.
THEY'RE KEEPING THE AREAS WHICH ARE CURRENTLY, UM, CONCRETE AND THEN THEY'RE EXPANDING IT WITH DG EXCUSE, DECOMPOSED GRANITE.
DID THEY SAY ANYTHING ABOUT OUTDOOR SPEAKERS? THEY DID NOT.
UM, I WOULD DEFER THAT QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT.
THAT IS A, A GOOD QUESTION THAT WE WOULD ASK THEM ABOUT OPERATIONS.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THEY, THEY, IT'S POSSIBLE.
UM, IT'S PRETTY COMMON FOR, FOR A PATIO SIMILAR TO THIS.
THEY ARE, THEY'RE OP HOURS OF OPERATION, UH, CLOSE AT 10:00 PM SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, AND THEN CLOSE AT 11:00 PM ON, UH, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
I JUST, I MEAN, YEAH, WE'LL ASK THEM.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THEIR ORDINANCE, SOUND ORDINANCE AND NOISE ORDINANCE, I GUESS 'CAUSE MM-HMM.
ANY OTHERS? OKAY, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT FOR ONE.
ADDISON PLACE, 1912 DASH Z SLASH 1449.
SO, UH, THIS PD AMENDMENT IS, UH, FOR THE BUILDING THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UH, ONE ADDISON PLACE, OR, UM, IT'S BEEN REFERRED TO IN THE PAST AS THE BAUMAN BUILDING.
UM, BUT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO, UH, A REQUEST TO ADD A NEW PERMITTED LAND USE TO THE PD AS WELL AS
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MODIFY THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, UM, LANDSCAPE PLAN.SO THIS SITE ORIGINALLY HAD APPROVAL FROM COUNCIL IN 2020, UM, AND IT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR A PERIOD OF TIME IN 2023, I BELIEVE IT WAS APPROXIMATELY AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, UH, THEY GOT APPROVAL TO HAVE A RESIDENTIAL UNIT ON THE TOP FLOOR, UH, FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.
AND THAT WAS ALSO APPROVED, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS, UH, MOVED OUT OF THE NOISE CONTOUR, UH, FROM A RECENT STUDY.
AND THEY'RE COMING BACK AGAIN AS THEY'RE KIND OF NEARING THE END OF CONSTRUCTION TO MODIFY THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
AND ONCE AGAIN, ADD A PERMITTED USE.
THAT PERMITTED USE IS RARE VEHICLE STORAGE.
IT'S KIND OF A, A UNIQUE, UM, LAND USE THAT WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF AN ADDISON.
SO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS BUILDING ACTUALLY ACCOMMODATED PARKING ON THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR.
UH, THE FIRST FLOOR IS LIKE OPEN AIR GARAGE PARKING.
AND THEN THE SECOND FLOOR, UH, WAS CONSTRUCTED TO BE POTENTIALLY CONVERTED INTO GARAGE PARKING.
IF, UH, THE PROPOSED LAND USES ON THE THIRD THROUGH FIFTH FLOORS WARRANTED A HIGHER PARKING DEMAND, UM, WITH THE TOP FLOOR BEING RESIDENTIAL, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT THEY WOULD EVER MEET THAT THRESHOLD TO NEED TO FORMALLY CONVERT THAT INTO PUBLIC PARKING.
UH, BUT THE APPLICANT IS WANTING TO USE IT, UM, TO LEASE SPACES TO, UM, OWNERS OF THESE RARE VEHICLES TO STORE, UM, FOR, UH, UM, INDEFINITE PERIODS OF TIME.
UH, THIS AREA IS NOT INTENDED TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR VIEWING.
UM, IT WOULD JUST BE THE OWNERS COULD GO UP AND, AND SEE THEIR VEHICLES.
THEN, UM, ADDITIONALLY FOR THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, THEY ARE IMPLEMENTING A Z ESCAPING LANDSCAPE METHOD.
SOMETIMES IT'S REFERRED TO AS WATERWISE OR, OR SOMETHING ELSE SIMILAR.
IT'S REALLY, UH, INTENDED TO BE A DROUGHT RESISTANT HARDY PLANT MATERIAL, UM, THAT IS MORE, UM, ATTRACTIVE AND EASILY MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THAT THROUGH THE CHANGE OF CHANGES OF SEASONS AND ALSO TYPICALLY USED AS LESS, UM, IRRIGATION OR, OR WATER CONSUMPTION.
SO THOSE ARE THE, THE TWO PER ITEMS PROPOSED WITH THAT PD AMENDMENT.
ARE D IS, IS LEASES GONNA BE LONG TERM OR IS THIS LIKE GONNA BE DAVE LIKE IBEL? I WILL, I'LL DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT, BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S, IT'S MORE OF LONG TERM LEASE.
I, I, YEAH, I, I TALKED TO HIM A MONTH AGO ABOUT THIS AND HE, HE, THIS IS GONNA BE LONG TERM IS WHAT HIS PLAN IS FOR THESE PEOPLE.
SO THEY NEED A PLACE TO STORE LIKE SUPER RARE CARS.
AND PROBABLY ONE GUY WILL HAVE ONE, ANOTHER GUY WILL HAVE ANOTHER ONE, BUT IT'S, THEY'RE NOT GONNA STORE 'EM IN A SHOP SOMEPLACE.
SO YEAH, I I ASSUME IT'LL BE AT LEAST A YEAR TYPICALLY FOR THOSE THINGS.
IT'S NOT, THEY'RE NOT MOVING THEM IN AND OUT.
AND, AND I'LL JUST ADD, AND I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS PREVIOUSLY, I DID RECOMMEND A COUPLE OF CONDITIONS WITH THIS ITEM RELATED TO THE, THE LIMITATIONS OF THIS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS BUILDING WAS INTENDED TO BE MIXED USE.
IT WASN'T INTENDED TO BE A STORAGE BUILDING OR TURN INTO A PSEUDO INDUSTRIAL BUILDING.
UM, SO WITH THIS PROPOSAL, IT'S POSSIBLE THE SECOND FLOOR COULD BE THIS RARE VEHICLE STORAGE.
THE THIRD AND FOURTH FLOORS WOULD BE OFFICE OR RETAIL SPACE, AND THE FIFTH FLOOR WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL.
SO, UH, YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THOSE CONDITIONS THAT I'VE RECOMMENDED ARE SPECIFIC TO LIMIT, UM, THE AMOUNT OF SPACE USED FOR THAT STORAGE, BUT ALSO PROHIBIT OUTDOOR STORAGE OR, OR KIND OF, UM, STRETCHING THE BOUNDS OF WHAT COULD BE ALLOWED BY BY THAT USE.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED DO NOT INDICATE ANY KIND OF VENTILATION FOR THAT SECOND FLOOR, WHICH WOULD BE REQUIRED BY PARKING ONE.
I HAVEN'T SEEN IN ALSO THE DOCUMENTS ANY TYPE OF ADDITIONAL FIREPROOFING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR FIRE SEPARATION BY HAVING AUTOMOBILE STORAGE, UM, ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND THEN THE DOCUMENTATION, UH, OF THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT LIMIT IT TO RARE AUTOMOBILES.
IT JUST SAYS AUTOMOBILE STORAGE DOES.
SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? IT DOESN'T LIMIT IT TO WHAT KIND OF AUTOMOBILES? ANY RARE AUTOMOBILE IN TERMS OF IT, IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE IT FROM BEING A DAILY PARKING GARAGE.
UM, JADE, WOULD YOU MIND PULLING UP THE PLANS FOR, UH, 1912 Z? SO I'LL ANSWER A COUPLE OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
UH, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL, UM, ACHIEVE IT.
SO ON THE FLOOR PLAN, UM, IN THE CENTER OF THAT FLOOR PLAN, THERE'S ACTUALLY A NOTE THAT SAYS ADDITI, IF THIS IS TURNED INTO PARKING, ADDITIONAL FIREPROOFING WILL BE REQUIRED.
UM, SO WE WILL CATCH THAT ON THE BUILDING PERMIT SIDE AND, AND THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY SIDE, RIGHT? SO TECHNICALLY HE IS ASKING
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FOR APPROVAL, BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRING HIM TO USE IT.HE COULD COME BACK TO US AND SAY, I HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WANTING TO LEASE THIS FOR A, UM, LIKE A RETAIL STORE.
YOU KNOW, AND HE COULD STILL ACHIEVE THAT 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE APPROVED UNDER THE ZONING.
UM, SO WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO WANT TO REQUIRE THAT OF HIM AT THIS TIME UNTIL THAT USE BECOMES SOLIDIFIED.
UH, SO THAT'S WHERE THAT'S KIND OF MEMORIALIZED.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION, WHICH IS ALSO ANOTHER CONDITION THAT WAS PROPOSED IS THAT THE MECHANICAL VENTILATION SHALL BE PROVIDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE, UM, BUILDING CODE.
SO HOW THE SECOND FLOOR WAS DESIGNED WAS THAT THE WINDOWS COULD ACTUALLY BE PUNCHED OUT TO PROVIDE OPEN AIR VENTILATION.
THAT IS AN OPTION FOR HIM TO PURSUE IF HE CHOOSES TO DO SO.
BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE THESE ARE RARE VEHICLES, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT HE'S GONNA WANT THEM OPEN AIR FOR NOT ONLY FOR FOR WEATHER OTHER ELEMENTS, BUT ALSO FOR SECURITY PURPOSES.
SO WE WANTED TO PROVIDE THE APPLICANT THE FLEXIBILITY OF IF HE DID CHOOSE TO PURSUE THIS, HE COULD PROVIDE VENTILATION THROUGH OTHER MEANS AS LONG AS THEY'RE APPLICABLE IN THE BUILDING CODE.
AND THEN, I'M SORRY, I THINK YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION.
UH, CAN YOU GO TO THE, THE ACTUAL AMENDMENT, THE VERBIAGE? UM, LIKE ON THE, I APOLOGIZE, ON THE, LIKE THE AGENDA? NO, I, I APOLOGIZE.
I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHERE I SAW IT.
BUT IN THE, IN THE, UH, WRITTEN DESCRIPTION AS FAR AS WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED, I BELIEVE IT ONLY SAID AUTOMOBILE STORAGE DOES NOT SAY WHERE AUTOMOBILE STORAGE.
UM, YEAH, SO WE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UH, WE CAN FURTHER DEFINE WHAT COULD BE ALLOWED.
SO, UH, ON THE CONDITIONS, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO, TO DISCUSS THAT AND ELABORATE A BIT AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK.
UM, SO THE, A COUPLE THINGS THAT I WANT TO BE SURE IS THAT WE PROVIDE CONDITIONS THAT ARE ENFORCEABLE.
UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, IT MAY NOT BE REALISTIC FOR THE COMMISSION TO SAY WE'RE ONLY GOING TO ALLOW VEHICLES THAT ARE OLDER THAN 1990 OR, OR WHATEVER.
'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT AND NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR STAFF TO ENFORCE.
UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN AND I WOULD, I WOULD ASK FOR IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK OR SUGGESTIONS.
WELL, I I DON'T KNOW THAT I, UH, OBJECT TO THE FACT OF IT BEING A PARKING GARAGE AS LONG AS THE, UM, COMMISSION IS AWARE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE USED AS A PARKING GARAGE, NOT JUST STORAGE.
AND THAT HE'S, HE USES IT FOR WHAT HE'S ASKED FOR, THAT'S ALL.
SO THE, UH, THE ACCESS TO GET UP THERE IS A, IS A LIFT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT BUILDING.
AND SO, AND TO GET THE STUFF, YOU CAN'T REALLY, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DRIVE THE CARS IN.
YOU DRIVE IT ON THE LIFT AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUSH 'EM IN.
LIKE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT CHUCKS UNDER THE WHEELS AND THEN ROLL 'EM IN BY HAND.
'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DRIVE IN THERE.
SO I THINK, I MEAN, I THINK ONCE THOSE THINGS ARE UP THERE, THEY STAY UP THERE.
I MEAN, THEY MIGHT TAKE 'EM DOWN IF THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF RALLY OR SOMETHING, BUT IT'LL BE, THEY'LL HAVE TO SCHEDULE THAT WITH THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING AND GET 'EM OVER TO THE ELEVATOR AND DOWN AND OUT.
SO I, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT IT COULD, I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, BE USED AS A FREQUENT PARKING GARAGE THAT PEOPLE ARE IN AND OUT OF THERE EVERY DAY.
WELL, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO IT, IT'S JUST YEAH, WHATEVER THE INTENT IS.
LESLIE, DO YOU KNOW IF THE APPLICANT WILL BE HERE TONIGHT? HE WILL BE, YES.
ANY OTHER FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS ON THAT? ARE WE GOOD? OKAY.
NEXT ONE IS GOING TO BE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT FOR VITRUVIAN BLOCK 319 0 4 Z.
UM, AND COMMISSIONER WILL NEED TO RECUSE HERSELF FROM THIS ONE.
CAN SHE STAY HERE RIGHT NOW? YEAH, I THINK SO.
UM, SO THIS REQUEST IS TO, UH, AMEND THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR VITRUVIAN, UM, FOR SPECIFICALLY TO BLOCK 300.
SO THIS IS, UM, AN UH, UH, THE LARGE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS ACTUALLY INITIALLY, UM, ADOPTED IN 2007.
AND THEN IT WAS AMENDED, UH, PLUS.
SO THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND PERMITTED USES WERE AMENDED AGAIN IN 2016.
UM, THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO ANOTHER SECTION IN 2021 AND THAT WAS FOR THE VILLAS OF FRE, UM, TO CONSTRUCT TOWN HOMES THERE.
'CAUSE IT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED FOR MULTI-FAMILY.
UM, SO THIS PROPOSAL TONIGHT IS NOT
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INTENDED TO CHANGE THE USE.IT'S STILL INTENDED TO REMAIN MULTIFAMILY.
HOWEVER, THEY ARE CHANGING THE BUILDING FOOTPRINTS AND REALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF UNITS BY BUILDING.
SO, UH, YOU'LL SEE, SO BLOCK 300 IS A, UM, GROUP OF THREE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS.
THEY'RE REFERRED TO AS BLOCK 3 0 1, 3 0 2, AND 3 0 3.
UH, SO THERE'S ALSO, UM, A TABLE, UH, JADE, DO YOU MIND PULLING UP THAT PRESENTATION? 1904? UM, I'LL PULL IT UP IN JUST A MOMENT, BUT YOU'LL SEE, UM, SO THERE'S STILL MAINTAINING THREE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, UM, BUT THEY'RE EXPANDING THE AMENITY AREA QUITE SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND THAT AMENITY AREA WILL, WILL SERVE THOSE BUILDINGS.
THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
SO OBVIOUSLY WHEN THIS PLAN WAS APPROVED IN, IN 2007, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF DETAIL.
THEY WEREN'T, UM, KIND OF FINALIZING THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING.
THEY ARE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION AND WILL, UM, HOPEFULLY HAVE A, A SUBMITTAL SOMETIME IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, UH, FOR THAT, FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS PROJECT FOR BLOCK 300.
UH, BUT IN ADVANCE OF THAT, THEY ARE PROPOSING, UM, UH, OR REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR THE AMENDMENT TO THE CONCEPT PLAN.
UM, SO I MENTIONED THE REALLOCATION OF UNITS.
SO THIS IS, UH, THE PROPOSED REALLOCATION OF THOSE UNITS, UM, AS FAR AS THE TABLE OR THE, THE BLOCKS ARE CONCERNED.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS IS NOT INCREASING.
THEY'RE JUST REALLOCATING THE NUMBER OF UNITS PER BUILDING.
AND THEN, OH, ONE MORE THING I WANNA ADD.
THIS WAS, UM, THIS RENDERING WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THERE IS NO, UM, BY POTENTIALLY BY THIS ITEM POTENTIALLY GETTING APPROVED BY COUNSEL THAT DOES NOT SOLIDIFY THAT THE BUILDING WILL LOOK THIS WAY OR THE COLOR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THIS IS JUST CONCEPTUAL THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED TO BETTER VISUALIZE WHAT THIS WILL COULD LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE RECOMMENDATION? IT, IT STATES THAT IT IS AN APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.
WHAT ARE THOSE CONDITIONS ON THE STAFF REPORT? IT DOES.
I DO NOT, STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING ANY CONDITIONS.
SO IF IT SAYS IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT IT IS, YEAH, SO IN THE STACK REPORT, UM, IT JUST SAYS, OH, I UNDERSTAND.
THE LAST SENTENCE WHICH SAYS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OVER THE REQUEST IS, UM, THE CONCLUSION OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
I THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT.
DO YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING ALL THREE PARCELS AT THE SAME TIME? I MEAN, AT THIS POINT WE'RE JUST APPROVING THE NEW CONCEPT PLAN, BUT MM-HMM.
'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO, TO STAGE WITHIN REASON.
UM, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO, TO MOVE SWIFTLY THROUGH THE BLOCK AS WELL AS THE AMENITY AREA.
THE APPLICANT WILL BE PRESENT.
SO, UH, YOU CAN ASK SOME MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS ON THEIR TIMELINE, ASK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
ANYBODY ELSE, OR HAND IT OFF TO YOU? EXCUSE ME.
THE NEXT ITEM IS REZONING REQUEST FOR ADDISON CIRCLE STATION, PHASE ONE AMENDMENT 1910 DASH Z.
DO WE GET TO DO ALL THESE THAT ARE RELATED AT ONE TIME OR DO WE NEED TO DO 'EM THREE SEPARATELY? SO, UM, IF, UH, THE COMMISSION'S, OKAY, I'M GOING TO, SINCE THESE ARE ALL VERY INTERCONNECTED AND RELATED, I'LL DO ONE PRESENTATION.
UH, WE WILL HAVE TO HOLD THREE SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR EACH OF THE ITEMS, UM, AND TAKE INPUT, UM, AS APPROPRIATE ON EACH OF THOSE ITEMS. OKAY.
SO DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THE OTHER TWO ITEMS BEFORE YOU START? SURE, YEAH.
AS WELL, WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST FOR THE OFFICE IN PARKING STRUCTURE OF ADDISON CIRCLE STATION 1894 DASH Z, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND AMENDMENT REQUESTS FOR THE MULTIFAMILY TOWER AT ADDISON CIRCLE STATION 1895 DASH C LESLIE.
SO FOR THIS, UM, PRESENTATION, UM, AND I'LL, I'LL ASK FOR FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION.
UM, IT, IT WAS MY INTENT TO DO AN OVERVIEW OF
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THE PROPOSED CHANGES AND THEN THE CHANGES THAT FROM THE LAST MEETING.UM, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF CONTENT RELATED TO THE ORIGINAL ZONING ENTITLEMENT, UM, THAT HAS BEEN PRES PRESENTED MANY TIMES AND IS CURRENTLY APPROVED WITH THE CURRENT TOD ZONING ENTITLEMENTS.
SO, UH, JUST BRIEFLY GOING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE, THOSE CHANGES, WHICH, AND I'LL ALSO POINT OUT THOSE CHANGES THAT ARE A PART OF THE REQUEST, BUT THOSE CHANGES THAT WERE ALSO DIFFER FROM WHAT WAS PRESENTED LAST MONTH.
UM, AND IF YOU WANT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU NEED FURTHER CLARIFICATION.
UH, SO LAST MONTH AT THE MARCH 19TH MEETING, UM, STAFF DID ASK THIS ITEM BE POSTPONED UNTIL THE APRIL MEETING, UH, WHICH WAS COMPLETED.
SO, UH, WE'RE BACK, UH, WITH SIMILAR OR THE SAME PROPOSED CHANGES AS IT RELATES TO THE OFFICE AND PARKING GARAGE.
SO, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REORIENT THE, UM, OFFICE BUILDING TO HAVE BETTER CONNECTIVITY OF THE RETAIL TO THE PARK, UH, AS WELL AS FESTIVAL WAY.
THIS ALSO PROVIDES, UM, KIND OF A REALIGNMENT, A READJUSTMENT OF THE EMERGENCY ACCESS AS WELL AS SOME PARKING, UH, SPECIFIC TO THE OFFICE AND THE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL IN THE OFFICE BUILDING.
UH, WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF, UH, QIP AS A CO-DEVELOPER AT THE PROJECT, UH, THEY HAVE CHANGED THE BUILDING DESIGN SOME, UH, WHICH WAS KIND OF REFLECTED IN THE RENDERINGS AND THE FACADES PLANS PROVIDED.
UH, THEY ALSO PROPOSED TO MODIFY THAT TO A HYBRID MASS TIMBER CONSTRUCTION BUILDING.
UM, SIMILAR ROOFTOP AMENITIES, A LITTLE BIT MORE ENHANCED.
AND THEN ALSO PROVIDING SOME SCREENING METHODS ON THE, ON THE GARAGE, WHICH, UH, WAS ALL PRESENTED LAST MONTH.
AND THEN, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE RETAIL NODE, ONCE AGAIN, THESE ARE NOT NEW, UH, CHANGES FROM LAST MONTH.
UH, REALLY LIMITING THE BUILDING THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS, BUT HAVING LARGER BUILDING FOOTPRINTS AND FOR, AND REALLY FORCING, UH, OR ENCOURAGING THE ACTIVATION TOWARDS FESTIVAL WAY AND TOWARDS ADDISON CIRCLE PARK FOR THE, UH, MULTIFAMILY TOWER, WHICH IS, UH, ON ADJACENT TO QUORUM AND FESTIVAL WAY.
UH, THEY ARE INCREASING THE, THE NUMBER OF FLOORS TO 15, HOWEVER, THEY'RE NOT INCREASING THE OVERALL HEIGHT.
UM, AFTER SOME FURTHER EVALUATION, THEY GOT SOME ADDITIONAL GRADING AND THEY REALIZED THAT FROM, UM, THE EASTERN POINT OF THE SITE TO THE WESTERN POINT, THERE WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT A 10 TO 12 FOOT GRADE DIFFERENCE, WHICH THEY HADN'T ANTICIPATED.
SO THEY ACTUALLY HAD ROOM TO DO, UM, ANOTHER FLOOR ON THE TOWER PORTION ONLY.
UH, SO THAT'S WHERE YOU GET THAT INCREASED FLOOR HEIGHT, OR EXCUSE ME, INCREASED NUMBER OF FLOORS, BUT YOU DON'T INCREASE THE FLOOR OR THE TOTAL HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
UM, THEY ALSO, UM, CONVERTED THE PARKING STRUCTURE PROVIDE, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL, UM, MULTIFAMILY UNITS ON THE SOUTH SIDE TO SCREEN THAT FROM THE, UH, THE SCREEN, THE PARKING GARAGE FROM THE RAIL AND THE TRAIL.
AND THEN, UM, THE CREATION OF THE INTERIOR LIKE SERVICE AREA FOR THE MULTIFAMILY.
SO THIS IS WHERE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGES CAME FROM LAST MONTH WAS RELATED TO TREE MITIGATION AND LANDSCAPING ON THE SITE.
SO WITH HIS PROPOSAL, THE APPLICANT LARGELY PROPOSED TO ABANDON THEIR TREE, UM, TRANSPLANT METHODS.
UH, THEY WERE PROPOSING TO TRANSPLANT A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TREES ON SITE.
HOWEVER, UM, AFTER FURTHER EVALUATION, IT WAS, UM, THE CONCLUSION OF STAFF AND THE APPLICANT THAT IT WASN'T A FEASIBLE OR REALISTIC OPTION FOR ANOTHER NUMBER OF REASONS.
UH, SO SINCE LAST MONTH, THE CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED, UH, INCLUDE TRANSPLANTING FOUR TREES ON SITE.
SO PREVIOUSLY THEY WERE PROPOSING ZERO TRANSPLANT.
THEY WERE PROPOSING TO PRESERVE TWO ON FESTIVAL WAY.
THEY'RE STILL PROPOSING TO PROPO OR TO PRESERVE THOSE TWO, BUT THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO TRANSPLANT AN ADDITIONAL FOUR TREES, WHICH IS, UH, TWO SCHU MART OAKS AND TWO PECAN TREES.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, THE, THIS IS STREET SCAPE FROM UH, FESTIVAL WAY.
THIS DID NOT CHANGE FROM LAST MONTH, UM, AT ALL.
AND THEN, UH, SO I DON'T THINK, CAN YOU MOVE YOUR CURSOR TO THE LITTLE TRIANGLES? SO THE, THERE'S TWO ALONG FESTIVAL WAY ON IN THE TRIANGLE AREAS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE TRANSPLANTED.
AND THEN TWO IN THE SOUTHERN, UM, AREA THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE TRANSPLANTED.
AND THOSE WILL BE RELOCATED TO THE PUBLIC PARK, UH, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO SPECTRUM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROJECT.
AND YEAH, THOSE ARE ALL THE, THAT CONCLUDES
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ALL THE CHANGES FROM LAST MONTH.SORRY, ASK A QUICK, QUICK QUESTION.
UH, THE, YOU SAY THAT THERE ARE TWO TREES BEING TRANSPLANTED, TWO BEING PRESERVED AND FOUR BEING TRANSPLANTED AND THE BALANCE OF THE TREES, WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THOSE? THE, LIKE THE TOTAL CALIPER INCH, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THE, THE, THE BALANCE OF THE TREE LINE.
WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE TREE LINE? I DON'T KNOW IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION ON, CAN YOU GO BACK TO, CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THE, THE EXISTING TREES? YEAH.
CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THE TREE MITIGATION? ARE ALL OF THOSE, THE REST OF 'EM ARE GONNA GO, THEY'RE GONNA GO RIGHT? YES.
SO, UH, THE REST OF THE TREES, WHICH ARE SHOWN ON THE PLAN WITH THE XS ARE PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED.
SO THE ONLY, THE ONLY TREE THE TREES PROPOSED TO BE PRESERVED ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE, THE DARK BLACK CIRCLE.
AND THEN THOSE THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE TRANSPLANTED ARE IN THE TRIANGLE.
SO STAFF, UH, TOWN STAFF, WE HAVE TWO ARBORISTS ON STAFF.
THEY WENT OUT AND WENT TREE BY TREE AND MANY OF THEM WERE, MANY OF THE TREES ON SITE WERE NOT EVEN CANDIDATES TO BE TRANSPLANTED BECAUSE THEY WERE UNHEALTHY.
SOME OF THEM WERE, WERE UNSAFE AND STAFF EVEN RECOMMENDED WE REMOVE THEM NOW 'CAUSE THEY PRESENTED SOME UNSAFE CONDITIONS.
AND, UM, AM EMILY DID THE SAME WITH WITH THEIR TEAM, THEIR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TEAM AS WELL.
WERE ANY OF THOSE, I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE CITIZENS THAT THERE CERTAIN ONES IDENTIFIED AS HISTORICAL TREES OR DID ANYTHING COME OF THAT OR WERE ANY OF THOSE ONES BEING SAVED WITH NAMED HISTORICAL ONES?
UM, WHILE SOME OF THEM ARE QUITE LARGE, THAT IS, THAT IS TRUE.
UM, SOME OF THOSE VERY LARGE TREES THAT WERE REFERENCED BY STAFF, OR EXCUSE ME, NOT BY STAFF, BUT BY, BY THE PUBLIC LAST MEETING, UM, ARE ACTUALLY IN, IN, IN POOR HEALTH AND, AND PRESENT A SAFETY CONCERN.
I KNOW THAT WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AT OUR LAST MEETING, UM, UH, DEDICATION TO THE TREE MITIGATION FUND.
SO EVEN THOSE THAT, THAT ARE NOT HEALTHY AND YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO TRANSPLANT, WOULD THE APPLICANT BE REQUIRED TO PAY INTO THAT FUND IN THIS CASE? NO.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE FULLY MITIGATING ON SITE.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA SUMMARIZE 'CAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE TOTAL MITIGATION REQUIRED, WHICH IS, UH, OUR MITIGATION IS ONE TO ONE.
SO IF YOU REMOVE ONE CALIPER INCH, YOU HAVE TO EITHER REPLACE ONE CALIPER INCH OR PAY, UM, INTO THE FEE, UH, TREE MITIGATION FUND, EXCUSE ME.
AND THEY'VE REMOVED AROUND 950 CALIPER INCHES, OR THEY'RE PROPOSING TO, EXCUSE ME, AND THEY ARE PUTTING BACK ON SITE AROUND 1100.
SO THEY ARE ACTUALLY EXCEEDING THE MITIGATION REQUIREMENT QUITE A BIT.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY ARE ALSO, OUR MINIMUM CALIPER INCH SIZE FOR REPLACEMENT IS FOUR CPER INCH.
IN MOST INSTANCES, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO UPSIZE THOSE, UH, TO SIX CALIBER INCHES SO THAT WE HAVE LARGER, MORE MATURE TREES.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY THEY MATURE, MATURE EVEN MORE, MORE QUICKLY.
WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT 950 CALIBER INCHES TRANSLATE TO TREES? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT ARE BEING REMOVED? I I MEAN SURELY WE HAVE THAT NUMBER.
I DON'T KNOW IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I CAN, I I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET THAT.
COULD YOU GIVE ME A, COULD YOU GIVE ME A RANGE? I WOULD, I WOULD NOT BE GIVING YOU AN EDUCATED RANGE, SO I DON'T, I I APOLOGIZE, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO GET YOU THAT.
COULD, COULD WE GET THAT BEF? YEP.
I WAS JUST GONNA TELL YOU, IT'S IN PARENTHESES RIGHT HERE.
I THINK IT SAYS A HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIFTY FIVE SHADE TREES.
CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THE TABLE? WE GOT IT ALREADY.
SO REPLACED THAT'S THE A HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE FIVE, WELL THAT'S HOW MUCH ARE BEING REPLACED? SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE ADDING SO THAT THE, THE LADDER FIVE ROWS ON THAT TABLE, THEY'RE ADDING A HUNDRED FIFTY FIVE SIX CPER INCH TREES AND THEN 50 ORNAMENTAL TREES.
UM, BUT I'LL GET YOU, I THINK YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE NUMBER OF TREES THEY'RE REMOVING, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YEAH.
I WILL GET YOU THAT NUMBER FOR IN THE, THE REGULAR MEETING.
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, NEXT ITEM TO[3. Discuss Planning and Zoning Commission Purpose Statement.]
DISCUSS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UH, PURPOSE STATEMENT.SO THIS IS THE PURPOSE STATEMENT THAT CAME OUT OF, UH, OUR DISCUSSION FROM LAST MEETING.
SO THE FEEDBACK THAT I GOT, UM, AND I HOPE THIS IS ACCURATE, IS THAT, UH, THE COMMISSION WANTED TO MAINTAIN REFERENCE TO PO LIKE POLICY PLANNING, POLICY AND ORDINANCES.
UM, BUT ALSO REALLY FRAME IT TO, UH, THAT WE ARE, OR WE, THE COMMISSION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVID PROVIDING GUIDANCE, UH, IN A GENERAL CAPACITY AND NOT NECESSARILY SERVING ONE ENTITY.
UH, AND THERE WAS ALSO SOME COMMENT SHARED THAT THERE WAS PIECES OF BOTH OPTIONS AT THE LAST MEETING THAT MANY PEOPLE LIKED.
AND SO I TRIED TO ACHIEVE THAT BY PULLING ASPECTS OF BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER.
UM, SO I'D WELCOME ANY FEEDBACK, WE DEFINITELY DON'T HAVE TO ADOPT THIS TONIGHT.
WE CAN, UM, FURTHER DISCUSS THIS AND, AND REFINE IT AND I'D BE HAPPY TO BRING IT BACK IN THE FUTURE.
UM, I HAVE ONE RELATIVELY, WHAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO ME, AT LEAST, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.
AND, AND IT MAY TAKE IF YOU HAVE TO REWORD IT TO COMMISSION OR COMMISSIONERS OR WHATEVER, BUT I, I WANT THE WORD APPOINTED IN HERE.
AND, AND TO ME, THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION ISN'T APPOINTED TO FULFILL AN ADVISORY ROLE FOR THE TOWN.
I, I, I, I'D WANT TO, THAT'S PART OF SOMEWHAT OF OUR INTENT TO MY, MY OPINION OF THIS PURPOSE OF THIS IS THAT, SO THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE MAYBE NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH OUR ROLE AND WHAT WE DO KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT ELECTED INDIVIDUALS.
SO THAT'S MY REALLY ONLY COMMENT.
OTHERWISE, I THOUGHT WAS PRETTY GREAT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE COMMENTS? OKAY, SO WHAT THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO GO TO SOME KIND OF A, YOU HAVE TO EDIT IT AND WE DON'T GO INTO A FORMAL APPROVAL OF IT UNTIL NEXT MEETING, OR HOW DOES THIS GO ABOUT? WELL, I, I MEAN, I THINK SINCE THERE'S, THIS ISN'T LIKE, AND I'LL ADD LOOK JUST TO OUR, UH, CITY ATTORNEY, BUT SINCE YOU'RE NOT MAKING FORMAL ACTION ON ITEM, YOU'RE JUST KIND OF ESTABLISHING, UH, WHAT THE COMMISSION FEELS LIKE IS AS CONSENSUS ON A PURPOSE STATEMENT, UH, YOU COULD APPROVE IT WITH ADDING THE TERM A APPOINTED.
UM, REALLY I'M LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS FROM ALL OF YOU THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH USING THIS, UM, TO KIND OF DESCRIBE WHAT YOUR GUYS' PURPOSE AND ROLE IS.
SO, UM, IF THERE'S CONSENSUS, I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
DO YOU WANT VERBAL? EVERYBODY CONSENT? SAY YAY.
SO THEN WE CAN JUST START, YOU'LL FILL THAT INTO THE AGENDA SOMEHOW FOR, INTO THE WRITEUP OF WHERE IT GOES.
I'M ASSUMING AFTER THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
WHEN WE'LL SAY, OH, UNDERSTOOD.
I'LL ADD IT TO THE RIGHT, NOT TONIGHT NECESSARILY, BUT FOR, UH, MAY MEETING.
SO, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, SO I'M GONNA ADD THE TERM APPOINTED.
AFTER THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THE WAIT IS APPOINTED.
APPOINTED, RIGHT? ANYWHERE IN THERE.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE READ AT THE START OF EACH OF OUR MEETINGS, CORRECT.
I THINK AFTER THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE IS WHAT I THINK, I THINK IT FITS IN.
AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE ARE OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED TILL THE REGULAR MEETING AND SIX O'CLOCK.