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          [1. Call Meeting to Order]
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GOOD EVENING. 
          TESTING. 
          TESTING, . 
          UM, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          THANK YOU FOR JOINING. 
          IT'S GOOD TO SEE SUCH A HIGH TURNOUT TONIGHT. 
          UM, IT'S JUST AFTER SIX O'CLOCK, SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET US STARTED. 
          WELCOME TO CPAC MEETING NUMBER TWO. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE GROUP FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. 
          UM, IN CASE YOU DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW FROM THE PLETHORA OF EMAILS YOU'VE SEEN FROM ME, MY NAME'S JADE BROAD NEXT, AND I'M A COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING MANAGER. 
          UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA KICK OFF THE MEETING BEFORE HANDING IT OVER TO KEVIN SHEPHERD, OUR LEAD ON THE VIRGINITY CONSULTANT TEAM TONIGHT. 
          UM, JUST REAL QUICK, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN STOP TESTING THAT? OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          IS THERE A WAY TO, I GUESS THE ECHO, IF YOU JUST DRIVE WITHOUT MICROPHONE, CAN'T HEAR YOU ONLINE, HE CAN TURN THE OH, YAY. 
          SPEAKERS OFF. 
          THEY'RE ASKING. 
          JUST GET THE ECHO DOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? NO. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? ? OKAY. 
          LOUDER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, WITH OUR FIRST CPAC MEETING ON NOVEMBER 1ST, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST INTRODUCE THE PROJECT AND THE PROJECT TEAM, SOME OF THE TIMELINES FOR THE SCOPE OF WORK THROUGH OCTOBER OF NEXT YEAR WITH OUR 10 MEETINGS MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE THE FIRST TIME, WE DID A QUICK INTRODUCTION OF WHO YOU ARE AND YOUR TOP ITEM TO ADDRESS WITH THE PLAN. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO OFFER UP THAT TIME INITIALLY FOR THOSE WHO WEREN'T HERE LAST TIME, TO GO AHEAD AND SPEAK INTO YOUR MICS AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHAT YOU WOULD VIEW AS YOUR TOP ITEM FOR THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING EFFORT TO ADDRESS. 
          UM, AND BEFORE DOING THAT, ALSO, JUST SOME INSTRUCTIONS ON MIKE'S ARE AT YOUR PLACES, SO MAKE SURE YOU TURN THE LIGHT ON SO IT'S FULLY GREEN, AND THEN SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO IT FOR THE AUDIO RECORDING. 
          UM, WE ARE BEING RECORDED AND BROADCAST CURRENTLY, SO IF YOU WANNA START, UM, HELLO. 
          MY NAME IS JIM DERE. 
          I'M A FORMER CPA HOME BUILDER, REMODELER AND RETAILER. 
          I'M CURRENTLY A PART-TIME PICKLEBALL PLAYER, . 
          I REALLY ENJOY THE ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          IT'S LIKE A FREE COUNTRY CLUB. 
          I'VE LIVED IN ADDISON FOR 10 YEARS. 
          MY WIFE AND I MOVED FROM DALLAS, WHERE WE BASICALLY SPENT OUR WHOLE LIFE. 
          IT WAS SUCH A WONDERFUL CHANGE. 
          WE REALLY LOVE ADDISON. 
          MY, UH, HOPE IS THAT WE CAN PURSUE SENIOR HOUSING AGAIN. 
          IT, UH, I KNOW IT'S BEEN ON THE RADAR BEFORE, BUT I'M THINKING NOW MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME. 
          'CAUSE THERE ARE MANY PROPERTIES THAT ARE NON-PERFORMING. 
          UH, I KNOW ADDISON GETS THINGS DONE. 
          I, UH, I, UH, I'M, I'M READY TO DO WHAT I CAN TO TRY AND HELP. 
          I'M A NUMBERS KIND OF A GUY, AND THIS, A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION HAS BEEN OVERWHELMING TO ME, BUT I, I REALLY ENJOY ADDISON. 
          I I REALLY FEEL LIKE IT'S OUR FOREVER HOME AND, UH, I HOPE IT STAYS TO BE THE GREAT PLACE THAT IT IS. 
          AND I'M HOPING THAT, UH, ADDISON CAN AGAIN ADDRESS THE, UH, HOUSING FOR SENIORS. 
          I THINK IT'S TIME. 
          THANK YOU, AL. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREEN. 
          IT TURNED OFF. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          HERE WE GO. 
          I'M, I'M AL CHAFFEY. 
          I LIVE IN, UM, TOWN LAKE. 
          UH, WE'VE BEEN, MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 2017. 
          UH, THOROUGHLY ENJOY ADDISON, THOROUGHLY ENJOY THE AMENITIES, THE RESTAURANTS, THE NIGHTLIFE, THE ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          I'M SURE SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN ME IN THE ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          I REALLY DO ENJOY THAT PLACE. 
          UM, THIS IS MY THIRD, I'VE BEEN HERE SEVEN YEARS, BUT THIS IS THE THIRD COMMITTEE THAT I'VE BEEN ON. 
          UH, I'VE BEEN ON THE, UM, SAM'S CLUB REDEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AND ALSO ON THE TRAILS, UH, COMMITTEE. 
          I'M AN AVID GOLFER AND CYCLIST, SO I HAD A REAL PASSION FOR BEING ON THAT TRAILS 
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COMMITTEE AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE WHERE THIS GOES AND HOW I MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THESE TWO TABLES WHO WAS NOT HERE AT THE FIRST MEETING? OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO THIS TABLE OVER HERE WITH, UH, JOSEPH. 
          IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WASN'T AT THE FIRST MEETING? OKAY. 
          AND THEN THERE'S BACK TWO TABLES OVER THERE. 
          LIZ. 
          I WAS NOT HERE AT THE FIRST MEETING. 
          UM, MY NAME IS LIZ ELEPHANT. 
          UH, BEEN A RESIDENT OF ADDISON FOR 20 YEARS. 
          UH, I'M KNOWN TO SOME, AS ONE OF THOSE AWFUL APARTMENT RESIDENTS. 
          UM, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN, IN THE REDEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTIES. 
          UM, GOT AN EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND IN HOUSING AND I'M VERY EAGER TO SEE THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS THE KIND OF VISION THAT THE PREVIOUS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEES HAD BECAUSE WHAT THEY CREATED WAS WONDERFUL, IS WONDERFUL, AND I HOPE IT CONTINUES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, . 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WASN'T HERE LAST TIME WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO AN INTRODUCTION? ALRIGHT, WELL THANK Y'ALL. 
          I'M EXCITED TO MOVE INTO THE PRESENTATION. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, JUST TO RECAP A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LAST TIME, WE HAD SOME REALLY INSIGHTFUL COMMENTS FROM YOU ALL, WHICH HOPEFULLY EMPHASIZE THE EXPERTISE THAT Y'ALL ARE BRINGING WITH HAVING LONGTIME RESIDENTS AND NEWER RESIDENTS, BUSINESS COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 
          UM, ALL OF THE EXPERTISE THAT YOU BRING IS IMPERATIVE FOR THIS, UH, PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WELL VETTED. 
          SO WE HAD A LOT OF COMMENTARY ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S THOUGHTFUL, UM, AND THAT WE ARE ESSENTIALLY RETAINING AND ATTRACTING A COMPETITIVE WORKFORCE. 
          UM, IMPROVING TRANSPORTATION, INFRA INFRASTRUCTURE, AND STEWARDING, STEWARDING OUR ASSETS WELL TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THINGS THAT WE'RE PLANNED FOR WITH THE LAST ITERATIONS OF LONG RANGE PLANNING ARE HELPING TO KEEP A SMALL TOWN FEEL WHILE UTILIZING A LARGE, UM, METRO AREA RESOURCE POOL, AS WELL AS SOME ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDNESS, UH, COMMENTS AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS. 
          SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THOSE COMMENTS. 
          UM, WITH THIS MEETING, WE'RE REALLY GONNA MOVE INTO THE COLLECTIVE DIALOGUE. 
          SO WHEREAS WE'VE KIND OF STARTED WITH, UH, WHAT YOU'RE INDIVIDUALLY BRINGING TO THE TABLE HERE, UH, WE'RE GETTING INTO PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS TO HELP INFORM FUTURE DECISIONS. 
          SO WE'VE GOT SOME INTERIM DELIVERABLES FOR YOU ALL AND THE FINAL VERSIONS WILL BE COMING KIND OF AFTER THE NEW YEAR. 
          BUT WITH THAT, 
          [1.  Consider, discuss, and act on the appointment of a Comprehensive Plan Advisory Committee (CPAC) Chair and Vice Chair.]
UM, HERE'S OUR ROUGH AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. 
          THE FIRST ONE BEING COMMITTEE LEADERSHIP. 
          SO AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF APPOINTING A-C-P-A-C CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. 
          SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THE ROLE IS REALLY TO FACILITATE PRODUCTIVE DIALOGUE DURING THESE MEETINGS. 
          THE CHAIR WOULD BE THE PRIMARY, UM, FACILITATOR AND A VICE CHAIR WOULD ESSENTIALLY SERVE AS, UM, A PERSON WHO'S KIND OF ON RETAINER TO FILL IN FOR THE CHAIR IF THEY'RE UNABLE TO ATTEND. 
          SO, UH, THAT WOULD INCLUDE CONFIRMING A QUORUM IS PRESENT FOR THE MEETINGS. 
          LUCKILY, WE'VE BEEN VERY WELL ATTENDED SO FAR, UM, OPENING AND CLOSING THE DIALOGUE AS WELL AS KIND OF SUMMARIZING COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE TO KEEP THE DIALOGUE MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO THERE WAS A SURVEY THAT WENT OUT AND THANK YOU ALL FOR RESPONDING TO THAT. 
          WE HAD A STRONG MAJORITY, UM, REPLY. 
          SO I'VE GOT KIND OF THREE OPTIONS FOR US TO PRE PROCEED WITH THIS TONIGHT BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT I DID RECEIVE FOR THAT. 
          SO, JADE, CAN I INTERRUPT? SURE. 
          A COUPLE THINGS. 
          FIRST OF ALL, WHEN PEOPLE SPEAK, 'CAUSE I GOT FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTENING, MAYBE SAY WHO YOU ARE TOO, BECAUSE WE ALL DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER YET AND PEOPLE ONLINE CAN'T ANSWER. 
          SO TO START THAT, DENISE FANSLER, UM, I KIND OF A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT US DOING THIS VOTING OF THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR THIS PREMATURE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER, WE HAVEN'T HAD MUCH DIALOGUE WITH EACH OTHER. 
          SO I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THIS TO A LATER MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, , I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP. 
          'CAUSE IT SEGUES PERFECTLY INTO THE THREE OPTIONS THAT WE'VE GOT. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, WITH THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT DID REPLY, UH, MOSTLY ALL 
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WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN A LEADER LEADERSHIP POSITION. 
          SO THE OPTIONS TONIGHT WOULD BE TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO THE ONE PERSON WHO DID SUBMIT THE APPLICATION FOR CHAIR, UM, TO JUST KIND OF SPEAK TO WHY THEY WERE INTERESTED IN RUNNING FOR THAT. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER TWO OPTIONS WOULD BE TO HAVE STAFF JUST CONTINUE TO CHAIR THE MEETINGS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECT. 
          AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE TO JUST REVISIT THIS UNTIL WE HAVE HAD MORE CHANCE TO GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE AFTER TRIP TWO IN JANUARY AND, UH, THE TOWN TOUR THAT'S GONNA BE SCHEDULED. 
          SO OF THE FIRST OPTION, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL WHO DID APPLY, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING TO THAT. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION FOR KEN. 
          IT'S DENISE AGAIN. 
          THE, THE RULE THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW FOR LIKE P AND Z ABOUT ALL OF US MEETING TOGETHER PUBLIC, ARE WE UNDER THAT REQUIREMENT FOR THIS COMMITTEE? ARE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IF YOU HAVE A QUORUM? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THE, WE DON'T HAVE, WE HAVE ADOPTED BYLAWS, UM, IN THE ORDINANCE THAT CREATED THIS COMMITTEE. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S HALF OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          SO THAT WOULD APPLY IN THIS CASE. 
          HOWEVER, THIS IS MORE OF AN INFORMAL COMMITTEE. 
          SO, BUT I WOULD, THERE WILL BE TIMES WHERE, SUCH AS SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT JADE HAS PUT OUT WITH REGARDS TO HELPING WITH ENGAGEMENT, OUR TOUR, THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE YOU ALL WILL BE WORKING TOGETHER. 
          THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL IN THAT YOU'RE NOT TAKING ACTION ON ANY SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT IS CONCLUSIVE FOR THE TOWN. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS IS LESS FORMAL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE, THE TOUR THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH WOULD BE OUR FIRST KIND OF EVENT TOGETHER, IS THERE A WAY TO BAKE INTO THAT A LITTLE, LIKE MEET, GREET, SOCIAL, SOMETHING WE CAN DO VERSUS IF WE'RE BUSING OR DRIVING SEPARATELY WITH EACH OTHER? YOU'RE STILL GETTING, I I THINK THAT'D BE THE BEST WAY FOR ALL OF US TO KIND OF SOCIALIZE WITH ONE ANOTHER. 
          YEAH, THAT, THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. 
          WE'D, WE'D BE HAPPY TO FACILITATE THAT. 
          I SEE A COMMENT COMING OVER HERE. 
          WE'VE GOT TWO GOING, BUT THE FIRST, SO IT'S REALLY, UM, MOVING THROUGH THE THREE OPTIONS AND A VOTE WITH ONE OF THEM ESSENTIALLY. 
          SO THE FIRST WOULD BE IF THE INDIVIDUAL WHO DID APPLY FOR CHAIR IS INTERESTED IN SPEAKING TO THAT, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO THAT. 
          SORRY, YOU CAN'T, LIZ, HOW ABOUT, HOW ABOUT YOU GRAB THIS EMPTY SEAT RIGHT HERE? THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL, JADE. 
          UH, WHAT, WHAT CONSTITUTES THE QUORUM? IT WOULD BE 13 OF THE 25 MEMBERS. 
          JUST A SIMPLE MAJORITY. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I TEND TO THINK, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY WE NEED A CHAIRMAN. 
          I GUESS WE DO. 
          BUT SEE, SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU GUYS ARE LEADING THE PROGRAM. 
          YOU'RE, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWING UP ON EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON. 
          I'M NOT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE EVEN NEED A CHAIRMAN OR A QUORUM. 
          SO MAYBE I, MAYBE I JUST NEED TO HAVE THAT EXPLAINED TO ME. 
          YES. 
          SO THE PURPOSE OF THE CHAIR WOULD REALLY JUST BE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, EXCUSE ME, DIALOGUE IS CONSISTENTLY MOVING AND WE'RE HEARING FROM AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE WHEN WE'VE GOT MORE SUBSTANTIAL DELIVERABLES THAT ARE INTEGRATED INTO THE PRESENTATIONS. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO IT'S JUST MAKING SURE A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE HERE. 
          SO, KIND OF WATCHING FOR THAT, BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND A SOUNDING BOARD FOR COUNCIL, WE WANNA GET ALL OF THAT INPUT, UM, AS MUCH AS WE CAN GATHERED HERE IN THE MEETING. 
          SO IT'S REALLY JUST SIMPLE FACILITATION AND, AND YOU DON'T NEED A CHAIR. 
          HOWEVER, WE'RE STAFF IS DEFERRING TO THE PREFERENCE OF THE GROUP. 
          IF YOU ALL WANT A CHAIR, UH, OFTENTIMES A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS, THE, THE COMMITTEE PREFERS THAT PATH, BUT YOU DON'T NEED ONE. 
          WE CAN LEAD THE COMMITTEE THROUGH THE AGENDA AND FACILITATE DIALOGUE AS STAFF, BUT IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS A, UM, A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR TO FACILITATE THAT, WE'RE HAPPY TO TO SUPPORT THAT AS WELL. 
          JADE AND I HAD A LITTLE CONVERSATION 'CAUSE IT KIND OF COMES BACK TO SOMETHING I ASKED YOU LAST TIME AT THE END WAS ABOUT EVERYBODY'S EITHER APPLICATION, WHICH I KNOW I'M NOT APPLICABLE, BUT I COULD GET YOU A WRITEUP, WAS MOST OF THE GROUP HERE VOTED NOT TO HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION PUT ON THE WEBSITE. 
          BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR ALL OF US TO SHARE WITH ONE ANOTHER. 
          LIKE OUR LITTLE INTROS, YOU KNOW, HE WASN'T HERE LAST WEEK, HE GOT IT TODAY, BUT THERE'S SOMEBODY HERE TONIGHT THAT WASN'T HERE THAT'S NOT GONNA HEAR HIS INTRO. 
          SO I KIND OF THINK THAT WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL TO HAVE TO THE COMMITTEE, ESPECIALLY BEFORE WE GO DECIDING WHO WE WANNA PUT IN CHARGE. 
          WE WE CAN SHARE THOSE WITH THE COMMITTEE. 
          YOU NEED ME TO WRITE YOU SOMETHING UP AND SEND IT AGAIN? 
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SORRY. 
          DO YOU NEED ME TO WRITE YOU UP AND SOMETHING AND SEND IT THEN? NO, NO. 
          I, I YOU GOT ENOUGH? OKAY, WE'VE GOT IT. 
          HEY, JAY, SINCE THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON THAT SIGNED UP TO BE, TO BE CHAIR AND NOBODY'S SIGNED UP TO BE VICE CHAIR , WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO LET THE PERSON THAT SIGNED UP TO BE CHAIR KIND OF TALK TO THE GROUP RIGHT NOW AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THAT FILLED AND THEN WHEN WE DO OUR GATHERING THE NEXT TIME, UM, SOMEBODY MIGHT COME TO THE SURFACE AND SAY THEY WANNA BE VICE CHAIR AND THEN WE CAN VOTE ON THEM JUST SO YES, AGREED. 
          MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD. 
          AGREED. 
          THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST OPTION THAT'S BEEN POSED. 
          UM, I'M NOT SEEING A RESPONSE FROM THE PERSON WHO DID SUBMIT THE APPLICATION. 
          SO THERE WE GO. 
          I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          . 
          I'M THE MYSTERY PERSON. 
          UM, I THINK YOU, I THINK WE DO NEED A CHAIR. 
          I'VE BEEN ON A NUMBER OF THESE COMMITTEES, KIND OF NEED A CAT HERDER. 
          UM, AND NO OFFENSE TO YOU KATZ. 
          UM, BUT HE'S, SORRY. 
          SUE, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORDING? SUE HALPER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I, I DO THINK IT HELPS TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS A LIAISON WITH THE STAFF. 
          I THINK IT HELPS TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO CAN MODERATE THE DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT. 
          AND I THINK IT HAS, IT HELPS TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS A LITTLE EXPERIENCE DOING THAT. 
          SO I THREW MY NAME IN THE RING. 
          I GUESS I'M THE ONLY ONE AND I'D BE HAPPY TO DO IT. 
          BUT I DO THINK WE, I DO THINK IT'S A POSITION WE NEED. 
          I THINK WE NEED A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR. 
          I THINK WE NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN LIAISE WITH THE COUNCIL. 
          I THINK WE NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL. 
          UM, EVERY COMMITTEE THAT I'VE BEEN ON IN THE PAST, WE'VE EITHER KIND OF HAD A DEFACTO PERSON, UH, ON THE SAMS COMMITTEE, OR WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD PEOPLE SORT OF, UH, VOTED ON BY THE GROUP. 
          AND IT'S BEEN HELPFUL WHEN THE TIME COMES TO MAKE A PRESENTATION OR TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR TO LIAISE WITH THE STAFF OR TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY A RESOURCE PERSON. 
          SO, YEAH, I VOLUNTEERED. 
          SO, UH, WHATEVER THE GROUP WANTS, I'M HAPPY TO SERVE. 
          LIZ, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A CHAIR AND A, AND A VICE CHAIR, UH, UM, FOR ALL THE REASONS TO NAMED, BUT I, I DON'T THINK WE KNOW EACH OTHER WELL ENOUGH YET TO, TO MAKE THAT ELECTION AND HAVING THE BIO INFORMATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED WOULD BE VERY USEFUL IN, IN MAKING THAT DETERMINATION AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. 
          IN FACT, I HAD SUGGESTED TO THE STAFF THAT CITY COUNCIL PERHAPS SHOULD APPOINT A CHAIR, UH, FOR THE GROUP. 
          UH, BUT THE THOUGHT IS THAT, THAT WE WOULD DO BETTER IF WE ELECTED OUR OWN. 
          SO, UH, I JUST WOULD SUGGEST WE WAIT AT LEAST ONE MORE MEETING BEFORE WE DO THAT AND, AND HAVE THE BACKGROUND OF PEOPLE AVAILABLE TO US. 
          THANK YOU, LIZ. 
          JIM, THAT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE TO ME, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE JUST HAVE ONE CANDIDATE AND WE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE OUR HAND, SO I DON'T SEE WHY WE DON'T DEAL WITH IT TONIGHT PERSONALLY. 
          OKAY, SO THAT BRINGS US BACK TO OUR THREE OPTIONS. 
          LET'S VOTE ON THE FIRST ONE WITH JUST A SHOW OF HANDS. 
          UM, WE HAVE ONE APPLICATION FROM SUE, UM, AS CHAIR. 
          SO I GUESS IT'D BE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF NOMINATING SUE TO THE, UM, CHAIR POSITION. 
          GO AHEAD AND RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND OPTION HERE IS STAFF WOULD JUST CONTINUE TO SERVE AS CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECT. 
          LET'S SEE THAT WITH THE SHOW OF HANDS. 
          STAFF WOULD SERVE AS CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECT. 
          SHOW OF HANDS FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ? YEAH, I'M TRYING TO GET A TALLY HERE TO SEE WHICH IS THE MOST POPULAR OPTION. 
          AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE TO REVISIT THE NOMINATION ENTIRELY, UM, UNTIL AFTER THE CPAC TOWN TOUR, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, JANUARY 19TH. 
          AND WE WOULD SEND OUT PRELIMINARY INFORMATION, SO THE APPLICANT'S PROFILES THAT WE HAVE, SO YOU CAN READ THOSE, UM, AND THEN INTEGRATING A MEET AND GREET INTO THE TOUR. 
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SO SHOW OF HANDS FOR THAT OPTION. 
          OKAY, SO THE STRONGEST, UH, THE MOST POPULAR OPTION HERE IS SUE BEING CHOSEN AS CHAIR. 
          UM, SO I SUPPOSE THAT WOULD PASS. 
          THANKS, SUE. 
          CONGRATULATIONS, SUE. 
          LISTEN, I DON'T WANNA, UH, DO ANYTHING THAT MAKES PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE. 
          UM, I'M HAPPY TO DO THIS. 
          UH, AND YOU KNOW, SO I THINK YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD TAKE A MOTION FROM THE GROUP AND A A SECOND AND THEN VOTE. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO GO. 
          UM, SO IF, IF PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE, IF THEY'RE NOT, THEN THAT'S FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          FOLLOWING ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDERS HERE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT SUE HALBURN AS THE CHAIR OF THE CPAC. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? SHOW OF HANDS AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SHOWING 17 AND THEN ALL THOSE OPPOSED, WE'RE MISSING QUITE A FEW THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          CONGRATULATIONS, SUE . 
          MOVING ON, WE'RE GONNA PASS IT TO KEVIN FOR THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION. 
          SO FOR THE VICE CHAIR, CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT'S ON FOR THE, FOR THE RECORDING? SORRY. 
          SO FOR THE VICE CHAIR, UM, IT WOULD, WE'LL DO, WE'LL DO WHAT DENISE REC RECOMMENDED. 
          WE HAVE LIKE A, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN, NOW THEY HAVE SOME MORE TIME TO, IF THEY WANNA RUN, PUT THEIR STUFF IN THERE. 
          EVERYBODY SEND OUT THE RESUMES, AND THEN WE CAN MEET. 
          AND THEN IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO FILL THAT SPOT, ALL RIGHT, AT THE NEXT MEETING, IF, IF WE'RE GONNA, THEN WE CAN DECIDE THEN IF WE ACTUALLY PROBABLY NEED A VICE CHAIR. 
          OH, YEAH, I, SO, SO I, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THINK. 
          UM, SO, BUT THAT GIVES SOME PEOPLE SOME MORE TIME TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE CAN ADD IT TO THE NEXT AGENDA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          [2.  Present and discuss a timeline and status update for the Comprehensive Plan.]
GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, FOR THOSE WHO I DID NOT MEET AT THE FIRST CPAC MEETING, UH, MY NAME'S KEVIN SHEPHERD. 
          I'M THE PRINCIPAL WITH, UH, VIRGINITY. 
          UH, WE'RE THE PRIME ON THE PROJECT, UM, AND WE HAVE A LOT TO GET THROUGH TONIGHT. 
          SO, UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND JUMP STRAIGHT IN. 
          SO JUST TO RECAP WHERE WE ARE IN THE TIMELINE, UM, WE'RE KIND OF RIGHT BETWEEN, UH, PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE, WE'RE FINISHING UP OUR EXISTING, EXISTING CONDITIONS ASSESSMENT. 
          AM I TALKING LOUD ENOUGH FOR YOU GUYS IN THE BACK? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SOMETIMES I GET TOLD I PROJECT TOO MUCH, SO WANTED TO DIAL IT IN. 
          UM, WE, WE HAVE MOST OF THE DATA COLLECTION COMPLETE. 
          WE'RE STARTING TO GET INTO WHAT WE CALL THE ANALYSIS, WHICH IS LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND STARTING TO CALIBRATE THAT TO WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM, UM, FROM THE IN-PERSON CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE GETTING, UH, FROM SOME OF THE STAFF FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN. 
          AND SOME OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM YOU ALL TONIGHT. 
          UM, IN JANUARY, UH, WE START TO GET INTO THE BEGINNING OF THE EXPLORE PHASE, WHICH WE, WE, WE WILL START TO TALK ABOUT VISION GUIDING PRINCIPLES OR CORE VALUES AND SOME OF THE PRIORITY OUTCOMES, UH, THAT, THAT YOU ALL IN THE COMMUNITY WANT TO ACHIEVE IN ADDISON. 
          UH, AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IN THE NEXT, THE NEXT TRIP, UH, AND THE NEXT MEETING WITH YOU ALL, UM, YOU'LL SEE BEFORE THAT MEETING. 
          SO, UM, I, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SECOND WEEK IN JANUARY, GETTING THE PACKET OUT TO, UH, TO EVERYBODY THAT'LL HAVE THE OFFICIAL, OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME INTERIM PRELIMINARY INFORMATION TONIGHT. 
          AND THEN, UH, THAT, THAT SECOND WEEK IN JANUARY, YOU GUYS WILL GET THE, THE FULL PACKET THAT HAS THE COMPLETE EXISTING CONDITIONS ASSESSMENT AND INITIAL, UH, TAKEAWAYS AND FINDINGS. 
          UH, AND THEN IN THAT, THAT MEETING, UM, WHEN WE GET TOGETHER, WE'RE GONNA TALK THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT AND THEN JUMP STRAIGHT INTO GETTING INITIAL THOUGHTS ON VISIONING. 
          SO I'LL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT TRIP TWO A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, A LITTLE BIT LATER. 
          SO HERE'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON WHEN I SAY EXISTING CONDITIONS ASSESSMENT, UH, DID YOU ALL, DID EVERYBODY GET THE PACKET THAT STAFF SENT Y'ALL? OKAY. 
          HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT? PARTS OF IT? OKAY, LEAD TIME NEEDS TO BE LONGER 
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ON THIS STUFF IF THEY'RE GONNA BE THIS INTENSE. 
          SORRY. 
          THERE'S A, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, WITH STAFF AND I, I THINK, UM, KEN WAS TALKING WITH A FEW OF YOU GUYS, UM, BEFORE THE MEETING. 
          SOME FOLKS, WHEN WE HAVE THESE COMMITTEES, SOME FOLKS WANT ALL THAT INFORMATION AND WANT TO DIVE INTO IT, YOU KNOW, DO A DEEP DIVE BEFORE AND THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS. 
          SOME FOLKS JUST WANT TO KIND OF GLANCE AT IT AND REALLY RELY ON THE MEETINGS TO, TO TALK ABOUT THIS. 
          WHAT I'M GONNA GO THROUGH TONIGHT IS KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THAT INFORMATION. 
          UM, AND I CAN GIVE YOU KIND OF SOME DIRECTION ON WHERE TO DIG INTO THAT PACKET FOR MORE INFORMATION, UM, IF YOU CHOOSE TO, TO DO SO. 
          UM, BUT THE, BUT THESE MEETINGS ARE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION. 
          WE CAN TAKE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO DIG INTO IT AND TO CLARIFY. 
          SO WE PROVIDED ALL THE BACKGROUND, LONG RANGE PLANNING POLICIES FOR FOLKS THAT WANT TO GET THAT DEEP INTO OUR POLICY HISTORY. 
          UM, IT'S NOT OUR INTENTION THAT YOU HAVE TO REVIEW ALL OF THAT OR READ ALL OF IT, BUT I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE VERY FIND THAT VERY INTERESTING AND HELPFUL AS YOU APPROACH THIS PROJECT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE PROVIDED IT AS BACKGROUND. 
          IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THE INTENT TO BE MANDATORY READING FOR YOU ALL. 
          WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE SUMMARIES AND ANALYSIS AND IN OUR WORK REFLECT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THOSE EXISTING LONG RANGE PLANS. 
          DAVE COLLINS, UM, I SENT YOU GUYS SOME QUESTIONS FOR KIND OF THE GROUP. 
          DO YOU WANT US TO SEND THOSE OUT TO EVERYBODY WITH 25 PEOPLE? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S OVERKILL. 
          UM, ARE YOU GONNA TAKE THOSE AND REGURGITATE 'EM BACK IN SOME FASHION, OR HOW, HOW DO WE APPROACH THAT? I, I, I THINK IT ULTIMATELY WHEN WE GET QUESTIONS, SOMETIMES YOU ALL SUBMIT QUESTIONS FOR YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL, AS IN, HEY, THESE ARE QUESTIONS I HAVE, OR IF THEY'RE QUESTIONS THAT ARE INTENDED MORE FOR THE GROUP, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO CLARIFY, UM, IF WE, WE, IF WE UNDERSTAND IT THAT WAY, WE'LL, WE'LL HAPPILY PRESENT RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONS TO THE WHOLE GROUP. 
          UM, IT'S JUST, I, I DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS YOUR INTENT, BUT THAT I, REASONABLE INTENT. 
          I DON'T HAVE A A A DIRECTION ON THIS. 
          I JUST DON'T WANT TO BURDEN PEOPLE WITH, I'M PRETTY A**L AND I GO THROUGH STUFF AND I FORMULATE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND MAYBE WHAT THE POSITION I'LL TAKE AND I'LL JUST COMMUNICATE IT, IS I'LL PUT IT TO YOU AND THEN YOU DECIDE, HEY, THESE ARE FOUR OR FIVE OF THE EIGHT RIGHT, THAT ARE WORTH SPENDING SET ANSWERING TO THE GROUP. 
          WE'LL JUST GO THAT WAY. 
          I JUST DON'T WANT EVERYBODY TO SAY COLLINS IS SENDING EMAILS. 
          AGAIN. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT I NEED. 
          YEAH, I I I IT'S A GREAT POINT, DAVE. 
          SO SEND IT TO US AND THEN WE'LL, WE WILL FILTER AND WHERE THERE THE QUESTIONS ARE, WOULD BE GOOD TO ADDRESS WITH THE GROUP. 
          WE'LL ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR, FOR SHARING THAT CONTEXT. 
          [3.  Present and discuss preliminary Existing Conditions Analysis and Land Use and Fiscal Analysis (LUFA) findings.]
SO WHEN WE SAY, UH, EXISTING CONDITIONS ASSESSMENT, THIS IS SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          WE'VE GOT DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION, MOST OF THAT IS COMING FROM THE CENSUS. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UH, SOME PSYCHOGRAPHIC OR, UM, WHAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET IS ESRI TAPESTRY INFORMATION, WHICH WE'RE GONNA DIG, DIG INTO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER HERE IN A MINUTE. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT THE SURVEY ONE RESULTS, THAT VIBRANT COMMUNITY, UH, SURVEY THAT WENT THROUGH, UM, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE PRELIMINARY LAND USE FISCAL ANALYSIS. 
          I'M GONNA GIVE A AN INTRO TO THAT TONIGHT. 
          AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE FULL, UH, THE FULL REPORT AND, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT MORE OF THE, THE COMPLETE DETAILS IN JANUARY. 
          UM, WE'VE DONE A REVIEW OF ALL OF THE CITY'S CURRENT PLANS, UM, THE PAST, THE 2013 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS WELL AS A LOT OF THE SPECIAL STUDIES THAT CAME OUT OF, UH, THAT WERE RECOMMENDED FROM THAT PLAN AND HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AND IN SOME CASES, UH, IMPLEMENTED. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT SOME PRELIMINARY FINDINGS AND TAKEAWAYS FROM ALL OF THAT, UH, REVIEW THAT'S BEEN DONE TO DATE. 
          THE THINGS THAT ARE STILL GOING ON IS OUR MARKET REPORT THAT TONY AND NINA WITH HAWS HILL, UH, ARE WORKING ON THE FINISHED, UH, LAND USE FISCAL ANALYSIS. 
          WE GOT SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK FROM STAFF THAT WE'RE INTEGRATING INTO THAT, UM, THE OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES, AND THEN SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK ON VALUES, ASSETS, ASPIRATIONS, THAT SOME OF THAT IS BEING INFORMED BY SURVEY TWO THAT'S, UM, HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. 
          SO KEVIN, DO THIS. 
          DENISE, DO YOU ALL MONITOR THE LEVEL OF AMOUNT OF SURVEYS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE TO THIS POINT? YES. 
          AND SO IS THAT, AND NOTICE THAT, I MEAN, IT CHANGES EVERY DAY. 
          SO DO YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD RIGHT NOW? WE, UH, FOR SURVEY TWO WE'RE AROUND 450 RESPONSES. 
          AND WHAT IS TYPICAL? OR DO YOU HAVE A FEEL FOR THIS TYPE OF TOWN? WOULD IT, WE STILL WANT, WE STILL WANT MORE. 
          UM, THAT'S THE PARTICIPATION IN SURVEYS IS JUST, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT BY COMMUNITY. 
          BUT I WILL SAY THAT LIKE RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE ON SURVEY TWO, UH, WE, THE, THE INITIAL RESPONSES THAT WERE SKEWED OLDER. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS MEAN OLDER AS IN THE PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED ARE OLDER OR 
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YOU'RE SAYING YES, OLDER LIKELY. 
          WERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS AND IT'S NOW DATED. 
          NO, THE, THE INITIAL RESPONSES WE GOT WERE FROM A PEOPLE THAT WERE AGE OLDER. 
          UH, WE WANTED, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET OUT TO EVERYBODY. 
          SO STAFF HAVE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB OF GETTING OUT TO PARKS, COFFEE SHOPS, ET CETERA. 
          AND NOW THAT BUMPED THE RESPON, THE INITIAL RESPONSES WERE 80 OR 90, UM, NOW WE'RE UP TO FOUR 50 PLUS. 
          AND THE AGE, LET ME, CAN I ASK THIS? THE RESPONSES ARE STARTING TO MATCH THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE TOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND OUR TYPICAL, LIKE ANYTIME WE TAKE OUT, YOU KNOW, SURVEY FOR PARK AND REC OR WHATEVER, DO YOU KNOW, HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE COUNT IS TYPICALLY ON THOSE KIND OF SURVEYS? I'D, I'D HAVE TO CONSULT WITH OTHER STAFF MEMBERS WHO FACILITATED THOSE SURVEYS. 
          I WOULD SUSPECT IT'S, IT'S SIMILAR. 
          I THINK WE SEE PRETTY CONSISTENT PATTERNS IN PARTICIPATION, UH, ON PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS. 
          AND, UH, TO KEVIN'S POINT, THE THE AGE SKEW, THAT'S NOT A BAD THING. 
          WE WANT, WE WANT EVERYONE TO TAKE THE SURVEY, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET A GOOD CROSS SECTION, RIGHT? I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT, THIS IS ROLLED OUT OVER BASICALLY TWO MAJOR HOLIDAYS. 
          THIS IS SUPER BUSY TIME OF THE YEAR AND I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT WE SHOULD, I MEAN MAYBE WE NEED TO EXTEND IT MORE INTO JANUARY. 
          I, I I THINK YOU CAN, YOU CAN RUN SURVEYS TILL YOU, UH, JUST, WE COULD RUN A SURVEY FOR A YEAR AND, AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A PERFECT RESPONSE. 
          I THINK WHAT WE TAKE FROM THE SURVEY RESPONSE IS A, THERE MAY BE A NEED TO SUPPLEMENT IT WITH FURTHER ENGAGEMENT AND TARGETED ENGAGEMENT. 
          'CAUSE ONCE AGAIN, OUR FOCUS IS TO GET A GOOD CROSS SECTION OF FOLKS AND THE SURVEY, IT'S A TOOL IN THIS PROCESS. 
          IT'S NOT THE ONLY ENGAGEMENT TOOL. 
          THIS MEETING, UH, AND THE SERIES OF MEETINGS WE'RE GONNA HAVE IS AN ENGAGEMENT TOOL. 
          OUR OTHER MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC ARE, SO IT'S, IT'S ONE PIECE OF THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. 
          SO JUST BECAUSE WE GET CERTAIN SURVEY RESULT FOR ONE SURVEY IN TIME DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT DICTATES ALL THE PLANNING OUTCOMES MOVING FORWARD. 
          IT'S, IT'S THE COLLECTION OF, UH, OF INPUT THAT WE RECEIVE THAT WILL INFORM THE PLAN. 
          AND WITH THAT, IT'S NOT JUST SURVEY RESPONSES AND INPUT THAT INFORMS THE PLAN. 
          THAT'S A PIECE OF IT, BUT IT'S ALSO THE TECHNICAL SIDE AND THE MARKET SIDE OF WHAT ADDISON FACES AS WELL. 
          SO IT, IT'S A COMPONENT, BUT I WOULDN'T GET DISCOURAGED OR FOCUS TOO MUCH ON SURVEY NUMBERS AS FAR AS WHETHER THAT IS GOING TO HAVE A DETRIMENTAL OR TREMENDOUSLY POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE PLAN. 
          IT'S ONE, ONE TOOL THAT WILL WILL HELP US DEVELOP, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS PROCESS. 
          AND TO, TO BUILD ON KEN'S POINT, PART OF PART OF WHY WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS INTERIM IS BECAUSE WE ARE DOING OTHER EFFORTS TO GET, WE'RE ASKING SIMILAR QUESTIONS TO WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEEN IN SURVEY ONE AND SURVEY TWO IN PERSON. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF THINGS IN TRIP TWO WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE MEETING WE'RE, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TEAMS OUT AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. 
          SO ALL OF THAT, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DEMOGRAPHIC DATA WE PULL FROM, FROM THE CENSUS AND FROM ESRI AND OTHER SOURCES, THE SURVEY RESPONSES WE GET FROM THE COMMUNITY ONLINE, THE ANSWERS AND, AND CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE WITH FOLKS IN PERSON. 
          AND THOSE IN-PERSON CONVERSATIONS VARY GREATLY BY DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS, DIFFERENT FOLKS IN YOUR COMMUNITY HANG OUT IN DIFFERENT PLACES. 
          SO TRYING DIFFERENT WAYS TO REACH DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO GET INPUT. 
          'CAUSE NOT EVERYBODY'S GONNA TAKE A 20 MINUTE SURVEY EITHER. 
          SO, UM, WE WANT TO KIND OF ROLL ALL THAT TOGETHER. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THAT PACKET FOR THE JANUARY DISCUSSION IS KIND OF A CONSOLIDATED OF ALL OF THAT TOGETHER. 
          IS THERE, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE DON'T KEEP THAT SECOND SURVEY OPEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER? LIKE, I MEAN, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO ACCUMULATE ALL THE STUFF FOR OUR, UH, MEETING ON THE WHAT, THE 24TH OR WHATEVER DATE, 25TH. 
          I CAN'T REMEMBER. 
          BUT I MEAN, COULD WE NOT KEEP IT UP? I MEAN, THIS TIME OF YEAR AND SOMEBODY'S SAT DOWN AND TAKE 30 MINUTES. 
          I MEAN, I ALSO JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S BEEN, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST WHAT I'VE SEEN AROUND TOWN IS IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEEN VERY PASSIVE AT THIS POINT. 
          THERE'S BEEN A SIGN AT THE GYM IF YOU WANNA PUT YOUR QR CODE UP TO, I THINK IN THE WEEKLY NEWSLETTER IT'S GONE OUT. 
          BUT LIKE THE THING IN THE PARK THAT'S JUST HAPPENING THIS WEEKEND, I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN MORE OF THAT EARLIER ON DURING THIS PROCESS. 
          OR DID WE DO ANYTHING THE DAY AT THE CHRIS SANTA THING? I COULDN'T. 
          I WAS BUSY AND I COULDN'T MAKE IT. 
          I'M SORRY, THAT . 
          SO DENISE, WE DID IN FACT HAVE A VERY ACTIVE PRESENCE FROM JADE AT THE HOLIDAY AT THE PARK EVENT. 
          SO JADE, IT IT, WITH, WITH SURVEYING AND, AND TIME PEOPLE TAKE TO TAKE SURVEYS, I'M OF THE OPINION THAT THERE'S NO TIME OF THE YEAR WHERE IN JANUARY, NOT A BUSY TIME, EVERYONE, IT JANUARY FOR ME, I'M COMING BACK TO WORK AND I'M SPENDING A LOT OF EXTRA TIME 
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GETTING CAUGHT UP FROM THE HOLIDAYS. 
          SO I, I THINK WHILE WE CAN PUSH THE SURVEY OUT AS LONG AS WE CAN AT SOME POINT, WE, WE JUST, WE NEED TO STOP IT AND USE THE INPUT WE RECEIVE FROM IT. 
          YES, SUE? YEAH. 
          UM, KEN SUE HALPER, UM, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH DENISE. 
          THIS IS, I'M INSANELY BUSY RIGHT NOW AND, UM, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON AND I, I DO THINK, UM, I DO THINK WE CAN HAVE MORE OUTREACH. 
          I DO THINK THE STAFF HAS DONE A GOOD JOB. 
          THERE'S SOMETIMES THINGS THAT GO ON, UH, THAT THE STAFF IS DOING THAT WE DON'T SEE. 
          AND SO, AND WE COULDN'T HAVE A BETTER STAFF. 
          SO I'M CONFIDENT THAT THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY CAN. 
          BUT I DO THINK THE POINT IS WELL TAKEN THAT THIS IS A PARTICULAR TIME OF YEAR AND I DON'T WANT, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD, I HATE TO SAY TAIL WAGS DOG, BUT, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE SURVEY CAN'T CONTROL US. 
          WE NEED TO CONTROL IT. 
          IF THERE'S A WAY TO KEEP IT OPEN A LITTLE WHILE LONGER, IF THERE'S A SENSE, UM, I AGREE WITH, I AGREE WITH DENISE. 
          UM, TOM DOES, I, I THINK IF THERE'S A SENSE FOR IT, WHY NOT DO THAT EVEN IF WE HAVE TO PUSH THINGS JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET MORE PARTICIPATION. 
          AND, AND THAT LED ME TO A QUESTION THAT I HAD AND THAT IS HOW MANY PEOPLE RESPONDED TO SURVEY ONE? AND, BUT ANYWAY, I, SO THAT'S TWO QUESTIONS. 
          HOW MANY RESPONDED TO ONE? AND IS THERE A WAY TO REACH A MIDDLE GROUND HERE WHERE WE KEEP IT OPEN A LITTLE WHILE LONGER AND HAVE A, A SORT OF A MORE ACTIVE EFFORT TO GET PEOPLE TO RESPOND? SO SURVEY ONE RESPONDENTS, I BELIEVE IT WAS UNDER 200, SO IT WAS A SHORTER TURNAROUND FOR THE SURVEY. 
          UH, THAT SURVEY, LIKE WE DO FOR MEETINGS LIKE THE HOUSING TOWN HALL, WHICH Y'ALL, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WENT TO THAT HAD A TREMENDOUS TURNOUT, WE SENT OUT A POSTCARD FOR THAT. 
          WE PUT IT ALL OVER OUR NEWSLETTER. 
          SOCIAL MEDIA, THE REALITY FROM A PLANNER'S PERSPECTIVE, SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR 10 PLUS YEARS, UNLESS IT'S AN ISSUE THAT IS GOING TO BE VERY SPECIFIC, LIKE A ZONING CASE OR POLICY SPECIFIC LIKE APARTMENTS, YOU'RE GOING TO ALWAYS STRUGGLE TO GET PEOPLE TO SPEND TIME ON AN AMBIGUOUS TOPIC LIKE LONG RANGE PLANNING AND VISIONING. 
          IT'S JUST THE REALITY. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SO MANY LAYERS TO THIS. 
          I COULD SET, PROBABLY SEND A POSTCARD TO EVERY RESIDENT IN THE TOWN WEEKLY, AND IT WOULD NOT HAVE A DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT OUTCOME, UH, TO ALL THE REQUESTS HERE. 
          WE WILL ABSOLUTELY LOOK FOR EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND OUT THE SURVEY AS LONG AS POSSIBLE IN A WAY THAT IT IS STILL USEFUL TO US IN THIS PROCESS. 
          SO THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. 
          WE TOTALLY SUPPORT WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM YOU ALL THAT THAT'S NO ISSUE THERE. 
          BUT ONE THING I WANNA EMPHASIZE AGAIN, IS JUST, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN DO TO GET PEOPLE TO GIVE INPUT ON AN AMBIGUOUS TOPIC LIKE VISIONING. 
          I WOULD JUST ADD, I, I WOULDN'T, UM, I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF, IF WE PULL, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET TO THE POINT THAT WAS JUST BEING, TO, TO GIVE YOU GUYS ENOUGH ADVANCE NOTICE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. 
          IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO PULL THE RESULTS AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, AND THAT'S WHAT WOULD GO INTO THE PACKET THAT WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS, BUT KEEP IT OPEN THROUGH THE END OF JANUARY. 
          IN TERMS OF OUR OVERALL PROCESS, WE, WE NEED, WE WOULD NEED TO CLOSE AT THE END OF JANUARY SO THAT WE CAN START TO MOVE INTO THE, THE NEXT PHASE. 
          BUT YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SEE US TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE SAME TOPICS ALL THE WAY THROUGH MAY, JUNE. 
          UM, SO THESE, THESE ARE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS TO, TO REFINE THE, IN THE INPUT. 
          BUT SURVEY ONE IS JUST TO START TO ANNOUNCE THE PROJECT, GET A HIGH LEVEL, JUST A, AN INITIAL FEEL OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS. 
          IT'S NOT REALLY GONNA DIRECTLY INFORM ANYTHING IN THE, THE PLANNING PROCESS OR THE END DOCUMENT, BUT SURVEY TWO IS IMPORTANT. 
          SO IF THE COMMITTEE FEELS LIKE WE NEED TO KEEP IT OPEN ANOTHER MONTH AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          JUST KNOW THAT THE RESULTS THAT ARE COMING AT THE END OF DECEMBER ARE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE THROUGH DECEMBER. 
          UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WILL PROBABLY WITH TRIP TWO WHEN WE ARE, DO HAVE BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND MOVING AROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PROBABLY SEE. 
          I, I WOULD EXPECT WE'LL SEE IF WE STILL HAVE THE SURVEY OPEN AND WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO TAKE THE SURVEY. 
          WE'LL SEE ANOTHER BUMP RIGHT THERE AT THE, AT THE END. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          YEAH. 
          HI, CATHERINE ERICKSON. 
          UM, JUST TO PUT THIS IN CONTEXT, WHAT IS YOUR TARGET GOAL? WHAT, WHAT AMOUNT OF RESPONSES ARE YOU TARGETING FOR SURVEY TWO? WE GET ASKED THAT A LOT AND IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SAY. 
          WE, WE ABSOLUTELY, 
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WE'RE NOT RUNNING A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY WHERE WE'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER. 
          UM, IT'S MORE TRACKING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE, WE, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RESULTS AND WHO'S RESPONDING OF THE AGE AND IF ARE THEY OWNED VERSUS RENT OR WHERE THEY LIVE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THAT GROUP. 
          BUT IN TODAY'S, TODAY'S WORLD, THE, THE NUMBERS, THE BENCH, THE METRICS WE USED TO USE FOR SURVEY PARTICIPATION, IT'S HARDER. 
          UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US. 
          I MEAN, IF WE COULD GET TO 800, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT NUMBER. 
          UM, AND IT, I MEAN, IT HAS EVERY TIME THERE'S EVENT AN AN EVENT AND STAFF ARE, ARE OUT THERE, OR, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE ON THE GROUND, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA SEE A BUMP, A BUMP IN THOSE NUMBERS. 
          BUT THE FIRST, THAT FIRST ROUND WHEN WE FIRST SAW THE INITIAL RESPONSES, OUR TEAM'S FEEDBACK WAS, WE'VE GOTTA DO MORE TO GET MORE PARTICIPATION FROM OTHER TYPES OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND THAT'S WORKING AT THAT POINT. 
          THIS DENISE, DID YOU CHANGE HOW YOU APPROACHED IT WHEN YOU REALIZED YOU WERE, WAS BEING SKEWED OR, I'M JUST CURIOUS AND, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL MAYBE JUST SO WE COULD EDUCATE, LIKE SEE WHAT ALL YOU GUYS WERE DOING. 
          LIKE WE'RE NOT AT THINGS LIKE THE THING THAT JADE WENT TO, LIKE IF THERE WAS A FILE IN OUR LITTLE SHARED FOLDER THAT WE COULD GO INTO AND JUST READ ON OUR OWN WHAT YOU'VE ALL DONE FOR OUTREACH, I THINK THAT'D BE SUPER HELPFUL. 
          I CAN SEND THAT. 
          UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT I'VE BEEN COMPILING OF ALL THE OUTREACH IN PERSON, UM, ONLINE, ET CETERA, THAT'S BEEN RUNNING. 
          UM, I DO WANNA NOTE TOO THAT THE SURVEY'S BEEN OPEN. 
          I THINK IT, UH, OPENED OCTOBER 30TH, SO IT'S A TWO MONTH RUNTIME FOR THIS ONE, BUT THERE'S BEEN ROBUST OUTREACH FOR THIS ONE, UM, ACROSS SEVERAL LAND USES. 
          UM, SO I'M TRACKING WITH RESIDENTIAL, UM, OUTREACH, COMMERCIAL OUTREACH HOTELS. 
          IT'S GONE TO DIRECT. 
          THERE'S SEVERAL DIRECT EMAIL CAMPAIGNS THAT HAVE GONE TO THE BUSINESS NEWSLETTER, THE BUSINESS LIST, UM, HOAS, SEVERAL APARTMENT COMPLEXES, LARGE AND SMALL. 
          WE'VE BEEN IN PERSON, UM, DOING PRINT MATERIALS. 
          THERE'S A GIFT CARD INCENTIVE THAT'S BEEN CREATED FOR THIS. 
          UM, WE'VE GONE TO THE LARGER COMMERCIAL AREAS, SO VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY TO GET SOCIAL PROMOTIONS, UM, SHARED WITH BUSINESSES THAT CAN OFFER THE GIFT CARD INCENTIVE. 
          UM, OFFICE TOWERS, ABBY AND I HAVE GONE TO HOTELS TO SPEAK TO STAFF THERE, AND IT'S RUNNING NEWSLETTERS WE PROMOTE AT SCHOOLS, PARKS AND EVENTS, AND THAT'S STILL GOING ON THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          UM, GIVEN THE TIME CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE THERE, KIND OF WHAT'S BEEN MENTIONED TO GET PACKET MATERIALS READY FOR THIS NEXT, UM, PHASE OF OUTREACH. 
          WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT MAY BE MISSING FROM THIS ROUND OF SURVEY TWO, WE'RE GONNA SPECIFICALLY TARGET, UM, WITH FURTHER IN-PERSON OUTREACH IN JANUARY WITH THE ENGAGEMENT TRIP THEN. 
          SO I CAN COMPILE THAT AND SEND IT IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          UH, DAVE COLLINS, OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          I, I, I AL CHAFFEY, UM, LISTENING TO THE, UH, ESPECIALLY KEN'S COMMENTS AND JANE'S COMMENTS, I DON'T THINK WE LACK FOR EFFORT AND FOR OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO PROVIDE THEIR VIEWS, AND I'M GOING TO TRY VERY HARD TO NOT BE JUDGMENTAL HERE, BUT I'M LESS INTERESTED IN THE OPINIONS OF THE APATHETIC AND MORE INTERESTED, AND I PERSONALLY GIVE MORE WEIGHT TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOTIVATED TO PROVIDE THEIR INPUT. 
          I, FOR ME, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A GUIDING PRINCIPLE AND I JUST WOULD OFFER THAT AS AN, AS AN ALTERNATIVE VIEW. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE AS A TOWN IS WE HAVE A LARGE RENTAL BASE. 
          WE HAVE A LARGE COMMERCIAL BASE, AND WE HAVE A LARGE RETAIL BASE WHO FRANKLY ARE PROBABLY VERY UNDERREPRESENTED IN THE SURVEY. 
          I WOULD GUESS. 
          UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES, OVERARCHING ISSUES IS WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR IN THIS COMP PLAN? AND YOU'VE SAID IT, EVERYBODY'S AGREED IT HAS TO REPRESENT EVERYBODY. 
          IT CAN'T JUST BE MYOPIC. 
          AND REALISTICALLY, IF I LOOK AROUND THIS ROOM, AND PLEASE, I HAVE A TARGET ON MY BACK IN A LOT OF WAYS BASED ON MY PAST HISTORY, BUT PROBABLY MOST PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM OF HOMEOWNERS, THERE WAS A, YOU MADE A VALIANT EFFORT TO GET TAYLOR AND OTHERS FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN HERE, BUT IF I LOOKED AT THE SURVEY RESULTS, I WOULD GUESS THEY SKEW TOWARDS THAT GROUP. 
          IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? NO, NO. 
          WELL, GOOD. 
          I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. 
          SO I GUESS THAT ANSWERS MY SECOND QUESTION, WHICH IS I'D LOVE TO SEE HOW THE BREAKOUT WORKED, HOW IT ENDED UP. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK, AGAIN, JUST KIND OF ITERATING ON THIS, THAT OTHER CONS CONSTITUENCY THAT OTHER GROUP, LARGE GROUP REALLY IS POTENTIALLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN A HOMEOWNER GROUP IS THE HOMEOWNERS 
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ARE HERE TO STAY. 
          YOU KNOW, MOST OF US AREN'T MOVING IN A YEAR OR TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS. 
          THE COMMERCIAL BASE HAS A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY AND A LOT MORE OPTIONS. 
          AND WHAT THIS TOWN REPRESENTS TO THEM, AT LEAST TO ME, IS VITALLY IMPORTANT. 
          SO GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK AND THEIR INPUT IS CRITICAL. 
          SO I WOULD ARGUE IF WE CAN WORK ON THAT PIECE, WHICH IS HARD, I KNOW THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE WHERE I WOULD PUT ANY FUTURE EFFORTS ON, ON SURVEY, UH, WORK. 
          AND, AND THAT'S BEEN, WE KNEW THAT GOING INTO THIS PROCESS, THAT THAT HAS BEEN THE FOCUS OF JADE'S EFFORTS FOR THE LAST MONTH, BUT IT'S MORE WORK HAS NEEDED TO BE DONE BECAUSE YOU JUST, YOU CAN NEVER BE TOO EFFECTIVE IN ENGAGING HARD TO REACH GROUPS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN SHARING, AND WE WILL KEEP WORKING AT IT AND WE'LL EXTEND THE SURVEY OUT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. 
          JUST DO A FOLLOW ON TO YOUR POINT, SIR. 
          THE FACT THAT YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF REPRESENTATION FROM THE COMMERCIAL SECTOR, I WOULD LOVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEIR VIEWS DIVERGE OR VERGE WITH THE REST. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, ONE OF THE COMMENTS I MADE TO YOU ALL IN THIS PROCESS IS IF, IF THERE'S MORE SEGMENTATION, IT'S HELPFUL. 
          IF THERE'S MORE ABILITY TO PARSE INTO THE NUMBERS AND SAY, OKAY, THIS GROUP SPEAKS THIS WAY, THIS GROUP SPEAKS THAT WAY, THAT WOULD JUST BE HELPFUL MAYBE FOR ME, IF, IF NO ONE ELSE, BECAUSE I THINK OUR CONSTITUENCY IS SO DIVERSE, IT'S REALLY A CHALLENGE FOR ME TO KIND OF GET MY HEAD AROUND ALL THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, WE, WE DO HAVE A GOOD SPLIT BETWEEN OWN OWNERS AND RENTERS ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, THAT'S MORE WHAT TONY AND THE HOSS HILL FOLKS ARE DOING WITH SOME OF THEIR INTERVIEWS AND, AND SOME OF THAT. 
          SO ALL, ALL OF THIS, SO WE'LL, WE'LL RUN A, WE'LL RUN A REPORT AT THE END OF DECEMBER THAT HAS ALL OF ALL OF THE QUESTIONS AND, AND WE CAN SLICE AND DICE THAT DIFFERENT WAYS BY AGES OWNED VERSUS RENT LOCATE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE, THE TOWN THAT THEY, THAT THEY LIVE IN. 
          UH, WE CAN CONTINUE TO RUN IT THROUGH JANUARY AND MODIFY, YOU KNOW, HAVE A, AN UPDATED, UM, UPDATED RESULTS IN IN JANUARY. 
          BUT I THINK FOR THE PURPOSE OF MOVING THE PROJECT FORWARD FROM THERE AND TO WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED IS YOU, YOU DO KIND OF REACH A POINT OF DIMINISHING RETURNS AT, AT THAT POINT. 
          AND, UM, I, FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN, UM, FROM A STAFF SIDE, YOUR, YOUR STAFF HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT MORE THAN MANY CITIES WILL DO. 
          UM, AND SO AT SOME POINT YOU CAN ASK 'EM DIFFERENT WAYS AND WE CAN, CAN TRY DIFFERENT WAYS AND WE CAN DANGLE THE GIFT CARDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT IF SOMEBODY'S NOT GONNA TAKE IT AT SOME POINT, THEY'RE UM, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO. 
          I, I THINK I HAD ONE, ONE MORE QUESTION THEN. 
          I WANNA KEEP US MOVING, HAVE A COMMENT THAT I, I HAVE A COMMENT THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE. 
          I LIVE IN WATERFORD COURT AT THE MOMENT. 
          THERE ARE PROBABLY A THIRD OF THE RESIDENTS, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY APARTMENTS THERE ARE THAT HAVE LIVED THERE MORE THAN SIX YEARS. 
          ONE LADY HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE PLACE OPENED IN 1992. 
          ANOTHER ONE'S BEEN THERE 12 YEARS. 
          SO DO NOT THINK THAT ALL APARTMENT RESIDENTS ARE MOBILE BECAUSE CLEARLY THEY ARE NOT, AND THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE TOWN AS DO, UH, THE HOMEOWNERS. 
          AND I'M TAYLOR BOWEN. 
          UH, LOOK, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I HOPEFULLY THIS WILL CLOSE THE PART ON THE SURVEY. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE KEEPING THIS OPEN TO THE END OF JANUARY IS A GREAT IDEA AND I'M DELIGHTED TO HEAR THAT YOU SAID THAT WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE A DIVERSE SAMPLE OF SURVEY RESULTS AND THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MAYBE THE COMMERCIAL SIDE IS THE ONE THAT'S LACKING AND WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO TAILOR THE SURVEY TO MEET WHAT THEY CAN REALLY RESPOND TO AND GET THE INFORMATION. 
          AND THAT, I THINK WE ALSO ALL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE SURVEY IS REALLY JUST DATA POINTS. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S NOT THE BE ALL END ALL AND THAT YOU'RE GONNA, IF YOU DO, WHEN YOU DO PRODUCE THE SURVEY RESULTS THAT YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY SPELL OUT IF THINGS HAVE BEEN SKEWED BY AGE, RESIDENCE, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. 
          SO WE'LL BE INFORMED, BUT THAT IS VERY ENCOURAGING THAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU HAVE A DIVERSE SAMPLE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, UH, I THINK THERE'S A, THERE'S A SHARED INTEREST FROM OUR CONSULTANT TEAM AND FROM THE STAFF TO, TO TRY TO GET, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH, UH, ENGAGEMENT AS WE CAN. 
          UH, WE TALKED IN THE FIRST MEETING, WE'RE GONNA TALK HERE IN A SECOND. 
          AGAIN, ADDISON IS VERY UNIQUE, ESPECIALLY IN NORTH TEXAS AND THE AMOUNT OF RENTERS AND THE ROLE THAT RENTERS PLAY IN THE, THE ENTIRE ENVIRONMENT AND CONTEXT OF, OF ADDISON. 
          SO WE, WE HAVE TO REACH THEM, BUT THE, THE CONVERSATION ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, UH, IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE, THE QUESTIONS WE'RE ASKING OF FOLKS THAT LIVE IN ADDISON. 
          SO IT'S A DIFFERENT SET OF QUESTIONS AND IT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION THAT, THAT 
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THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF HAPPENING IN PARALLEL BASICALLY, UM, UH, RIGHT NOW. 
          SO YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THAT WHEN WE SEE THE, OR WHEN WE DISTRIBUTE THE, THE FULL RESULTS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE OVERALL PROCESS, I I, IT'S NOT GONNA IMPACT ANYTHING IF WE RUN IT, UM, ANOTHER MONTH, AS LONG AS WE'RE OKAY JUST KNOWING THERE'S, THERE'S INTERIM RESULTS AT THE END OF DECEMBER AND THINGS MAY CHANGE. 
          YOU MIGHT SEE A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE IN THE, UM, AND IF THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW, IF WE SEE A BIG BUMP IN 'EM THE END OF JANUARY BECAUSE OF TRIP TWO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO INTEGRATE AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN FEBRUARY, MARCH AS WE GO, AS WE GO FORWARD, OUR, OUR, OUR TEAM'S PROCESS IS VERY, VERY FLUID. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA LEARN MORE DETAILS ABOUT ADDISON OVER THIS 12 MONTHS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA JUST LOCK EVERYTHING IN AND SAY, THAT'S IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA REVISIT ANY OF THAT STUFF. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S VERY ITERATIVE AND, AND ONGOING FOR, FOR US. 
          SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ADDISON, RIGHT? THIS IS A DEMOGRAPHIC SNAPSHOT. 
          THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE, THE CENSUS CHARTS THAT, UM, THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN THE FULL REPORT. 
          UM, THIS IS THE AGE SPLIT. 
          SO ADDISON'S GOT ALMOST 18,000, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY OVER 18,000 PEOPLE TODAY. 
          MEDIAN AGE OF 35. 
          YOUR AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD SI SIZE IS 1.86. 
          THAT'S UNDER THE AVERAGE. 
          THAT AVERAGE FOR THE METROPLEX IS AROUND 2.6, 2.5, SOMEWHERE IN THERE. 
          UM, THE MEDIUM HOME VALUE IS 3 51. 
          THAT'S HIGHER THAN MANY COMMUNITIES. 
          THAT'S ALSO LOWER THAN A FEW IF YOU WANNA PUT A, A PROSPER OR A SALINA OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT. 
          UM, BUT THE AGE IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT. 
          I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE'RE LOOKING LONG RANGE, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDISON TODAY, BUT WE'RE ALSO, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT DOES ADDISON LOOK LIKE? WHO ARE THE PEOPLE IN ADDISON 20 OR 30 YEARS FROM NOW? UM, SO WHAT YOU ALL AND WHAT THE FOLKS IN ADDISON TODAY ARE THINKING ABOUT AND WHAT YOU WANT MAY NOT BE THE SAME THING OF WHAT THE FUTURE OF ADDISON WANTS. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING IN STUDYING THE PAST PLANS AND THE 2013 PLAN THAT WAS DONE, THE STAFF, THE COUNCIL, EVERYBODY THAT WORKED ON THAT 2013 PLAN WAS VERY FORWARD THINKING AT THE TIME BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT THAT WERE VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE METROPLEX. 
          UM, IT WAS, IT TOOK A LOT OF THINGS FROM OTHER PLACES AND BROUGHT IT TO HERE. 
          IT WAS ALSO VERY SPECIFIC IN THE WAY THE ANALYSIS WAS DONE FOR ADDISON. 
          WE'VE BEEN CHALLENGED TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING THIS TIME IS THINK ABOUT WHAT THE ADDISON OF 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS FROM NOW NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE AND HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN OR PRESERVE OR ENHANCE OR REDEVELOP AREAS TO, TO GET THERE. 
          THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS WHO'S IN ADDISON TODAY? UM, THE 25 TO 34 YEARS. 
          THE 35 TO 44 YEARS. 
          SO THAT, THAT GROUP FROM 25 TO TO 44, UM, IS ALMOST 50%. 
          DOES THAT, DOES THAT SEEM LIKE ADDISON TO YOU ALL? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES, DOES THE COMMUNITY, JUST THE GENERAL KIND OF AVERAGE AGE OF THE COMMUNITY, DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S IN THAT 25 TO 44 YEAR RANGE? IT'S NOT VOTERS FOR SURE. 
          . 
          . 
          SO THAT'S JUST A QUESTION OF HERE'S HERE'S THE, THE, THE SPLIT OF WHO'S REALLY LIVING IN ADDISON, BUT WHO DOES SHOW UP TO VOTE? WHO, WHO DOES, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA ASK TO, TO DIG INTO A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT MORE DEMOGRAPHIC STUFF ON HOUSING OWNED VERSUS RENT. 
          I CAN TELL YOU YOUR, THE RENTAL PERCENTAGE IN ADDISON IS ABOUT 83%, 83% RENT, 17% OWNERSHIP. 
          UM, THAT KIND OF JIVES WITH THIS AGE GROUP, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER AT THE TYPE OF THE YOUNGER FOLKS THAT COME TO LIVE AND WORK IN ADDISON, RIGHT? THEY ARE TYPICALLY RENTERS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          DO YOU HAVE DATA ON THE TURNOVER OF HOMEOWNERSHIP AND THE TURNOVER ARE RENTERS? SO TO YOUR LIZ'S POINT EARLIER, PEOPLE THINK RENTERS, THEY THINK TRANSIENT. 
          THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE TRUTH. 
          PEOPLE THINK HOMEOWNERS, THEY THINK STABILITY. 
          THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE TRUTH. 
          DO WE HAVE DATA THAT SHOWS HOW QUICKLY THEY TURN OVER BECAUSE JUST THE PERCENTAGE IS A STATIC PIECE OF DATA? DOESN'T TELL ME MUCH. 
          THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          SOME OF THAT, YES. 
          SOME OF IT I'D HAVE TO DIG A LITTLE BIT MORE AND KIND OF LOOK AT THAT. 
          APARTMENT STUFF'S GONNA BE REALLY HARD. 
          THE RENTER STUFF'S GONNA BE REALLY HARD TO, I MEAN, IT'S MY BUSINESS. 
          IT, YOU'D ALMOST HAVE TO CALL EVERY PROPERTY AND ASK LIKE WHAT THEIR TURNOVER RATIOS ARE. 
          NOT SAYING WE COULDN'T, I MEAN, I'D HELP DO IT, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE, LIKE MLS LISTING. 
          YOU COULD GO TO AND FIND OUT WHAT'S SOLD IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR YOU KNOW, IN ADDISON AND GET YOUR STATS FOR SALES. 
          TAYLOR HAS . 
          OKAY, THERE WE GO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I MEAN, IN 
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A KIND OF LARGE INSTITUTIONAL APARTMENT COMMUNITY IN A ROUGH NUMBER, IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT HALF OF THE PEOPLE WILL, UH, LEAVE AFTER THEIR ONE YEAR LEASE TERM. 
          BUT DO THEY STAY IN ADDISON IS THE QUESTION. 
          WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE DATA ON THAT. 
          SO IF I WAS JUST GUESSING, I'D SAY SOMEWHERE MAYBE IN THE, IN THE 40% RANGE, UM, IF YOU HAD TO PUT A NUMBER TO IT. 
          UH, ANOTHER QUICK THOUGHT TOO IS, UH, YOU'RE GIVING KIND OF COMPARISONS AND THIS OBVIOUSLY IS AN OUTLIER FOR ADDISON. 
          I THINK OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE US I KNOW THERE'S A FEW THAT HAVE A SKEWED POPULATION OF SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTI, UH, I THINK IS HELPFUL IF THE FRAME FOR THE ROOM, YOU KNOW, IN FUTURE WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND THINGS LIKE HOME VALUE, LIKE I ACTUALLY WOULD'VE THOUGHT HOME VALUE WOULD'VE BEEN QUITE A BIT HIGHER, BUT MAYBE THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SKEWING THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, JUST AS, UM, AS YOUR, YOU GOT A LOT OF GREAT DATA IN HERE, BUT IF YOU CAN ADD A COUPLE MORE OF THOSE FOR COLOR, I THINK THAT WOULD ALWAYS BE HELPFUL. 
          JUST PEER, PEER COMMUNITIES BOTH LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY, RIGHT? YEP. 
          YEAH, WE'RE, SO WE'LL DO THAT FOR THE DEMOGRAPHIC DATA. 
          AND THEN WE'RE ALSO, WE'VE GOT, YOU'RE GONNA SEE HERE IN A SLIDE IN A SECOND, WE'VE GOT SOME DIFFERENT PEER COMMUNITIES FOR THE MARKET, THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AS WELL. 
          SO THE CENSUS DATA GIVES US KIND OF THE, THE BASIC, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AGES, THE, THE RACES, ETHNICITIES, THE, UM, HOUSING OWNED VERSUS RENT, THE AGE OF THE HOUSING. 
          UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU'LL, UM, THAT YOU'LL SEE. 
          UM, BUT WE ALSO LIKE TO DO THE ESRI TAPESTRY STUFF. 
          THIS, THIS GETS TO A DIFFERENT, UH, A DIFFERENT LEVEL. 
          THIS IS MUCH MORE SPECIFIC IN TERMS TO, OF THE, THE TYPES OF PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, ESRI IS A GROUP THAT WORKS ALL OVER THE WORLD, UH, BUT JUST IN THE, THE US THEY'VE GOT DATA. 
          THEY'VE GOT DATA AND DO THESE TAPESTRIES FOR, UH, FOR COMMUNITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. 
          IT'S A, A WIDELY RECOGNIZED AND USED, UH, DATA SOURCE FOR, UH, PLANNERS, ENGINEERS, DEVELOPERS. 
          A LOT OF US USE IT. 
          UM, WHAT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT, ABOUT THIS, AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME INFORMATION, THIS IS ONE AREA OF YOUR PACKET, I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO READ AND AND DIGEST. 
          THERE'S INFORMATION ON ALL FIVE OF YOUR TAPESTRY SEGMENTS. 
          ADDISON ONLY HAD FIVE. 
          UM, SOME COMMUNITIES HAVE A LOT MORE THAN THAT. 
          UM, AND I, WE DON'T HAVE THE, WE DON'T HAVE THE BACKUP INFORMATION HERE, BUT IF, DID YOU ALL BRING YOUR PACKETS WITH YOU TONIGHT? UM, CAN YOU GO TO THE TAPESTRY SECTION? CAN I, UH, UH, CHALLENGE YOU ON SOMETHING? YES. 
          UM, I'M NOT, THIS IS DAVE AGAIN, BY THE WAY. 
          OH, COLLINS, DAVE COLLINS. 
          SORRY. 
          YEAH, EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY JUST, WE ALL HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS BEING RECORDED AND, AND SO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING WILL HAVE A HARD TIME HEARING ANY OF US IF WE DON'T REALLY TALK DISTINCTLY AND INTO THE MICROPHONE. 
          SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. 
          THANKS. 
          SO, AND WE CAN GO INTO THIS AT ANY DEPTH OR LATER WE CAN DEFER, BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT THESE AND I READ THE, THE, UH, DESCRIPTORS, TWO THINGS REALLY STRUCK OUT. 
          AND THEN I, I LOOKED AT THE ACTUAL NUMERIC AND I PUT MYSELF FIRMLY IN THE SENIOR CATEGORY, AND THERE WASN'T ANY, THERE WAS ZERO ON THIS SHEET FOR SENIORS. 
          AND, AND THE SENIOR BUCKET HAS PROBABLY EIGHT, EIGHT SUB BUCKETS. 
          THE OTHER IS THE AFFLUENT. 
          AGAIN, I DON'T PUT MYSELF IN THAT CATEGORY, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WYNWOOD AND CELESTIAL, THAT WHOLE GROUPING, BY ANY DEFINITION THAT I CAN THINK OF, THEY WOULD FIT INTO THAT BUCKET. 
          SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY WE'VE GOT THESE, BUT NOT ANY IN THOSE OTHER TWO BUCKETS. 
          SO THAT'S SOME OF WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH WITH THE ANALYSIS IS WE LOOK AT THE INITIAL RESULTS AND SAY, OKAY, DOES IS THIS, HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO THE CENSUS DATA? WHAT GROUPS SEEM TO BE MISSING? AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT JUMPED OUT TO OUR TEAM AS WELL, IS WHERE'S THE SENIOR POPULATION REPRESENTED IN HERE? UM, BECAUSE THERE IS A GROUP OF SENIORS, THERE'S UM, THERE'S AFFLUENT, THERE, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SEGMENTS THAT COULD APPLY TO, YOU KNOW, PORTIONS OF, OF ADDISON. 
          I THINK JUST WITH, WITH MY WORK IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, UH, AROUND THE COUNTRY, I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THE, THE TYPES OF SENIORS IN ADDISON LIVE AND GET AROUND AND DO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT ESRI WOULD QUALIFY SENIORS NATIONWIDE ARE. 
          UM, AND SOME OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE SENIOR HOUSING RIGHT THERE. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S SOME ANALYSIS HERE THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INITIAL NUMBERS AND SAY, DOES THIS REFLECT ADDISON? AND THAT'S SOME OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO INTRODUCE THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT AND GET QUESTIONS LIKE YOURS, DAVE, AND, AND IF OTHERS, WHEN YOU DIG INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, IF YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, THIS, THIS IS THE KIND OF CONVERSATION WE WANT TO HAVE BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE ESRI GOES THROUGH AND SAYS THESE ARE THE FIVE THAT YOU HAVE, UM, DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE NEED TO WORK WITH FOR THE PLAN GOING FORWARD. 
          UM, I WILL SAY OUR, 
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OUR INTERPRETATION RIGHT NOW IS THE SENIOR, THE SENIORS IN ADDISON ARE KIND OF FALLING IN THAT, UM, THE URBAN, THE URBAN CHIC, UM, OR THE ENTERPRISING PROFESSIONALS. 
          UM, I DO THINK THERE'S A, A GROUP HERE. 
          IT DOES FEEL LIKE THERE'S A GROUP THAT WOULD FALL SQUARELY IN THE SENIOR CATEGORY, UM, AS WELL. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE KIND OF FEEDBACK WE, WE CAN DO THE DATA PULL, BUT WE ALSO WANNA BALANCE THAT WITH THE FEEDBACK THAT, THAT WE'RE GETTING. 
          SO I WAS GONNA, UM, I WANT TO KIND OF RUN, JUST RUN THROUGH THESE FIVE, JUST GIVE YOU KIND OF A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT THESE FIVE ARE. 
          UM, AND THEN WANTED TO ASK, ACTUALLY ASK THE GROUP HERE TO KIND OF GIVE YOUR INITIAL THOUGHTS ON WHICH ONE OF THESE FIVE DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU FALL IN. 
          UM, OR IF YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU FALL IN ONE OF THESE FIVE, IS THERE, UM, IS THERE ANOTHER ONE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT FOR YOU? UM, DENISE. 
          OKAY. 
          I THOUGHT I HAD ANOTHER LIGHT OVER HERE. 
          BUT YOU ONLY PUT IN THE DESCRIPTIONS FOR WHAT ARE ON THAT PIE CHART, CORRECT, THOUGH. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE THE DETAILED OF WHAT THE OTHER CATEGORIES WOULD BE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE TOUGH TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU, YOU MIGHT NEED THE DETAIL ON ALL OF 'EM. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          I THINK IT WAS KIND OF ON THIS SPREADSHEET, BUT THIS LITTLE, IT'S, IT'S ON THAT OVERALL SO HARD TO READ. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT I COULDN'T MAKE HEAD OR TAIL. 
          SO SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE FIRST, THE FIRST ONE THAT, THAT ESRI HAS IS 50 56%. 
          UM, OF ADDISON IS THE METRO RENTERS. 
          THESE ARE, UM, THESE ARE FOLKS, HANG ON, LET ME GET TO MY, SO AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD SIDE OF 1.67, MEDIAN AGE 33, MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME, 67,000 WELL EDUCATED. 
          UM, THEY TEND TO LIVE IN THE RE THE RENTALS SAYS RENTALS OCCUPY CLOSE TO 80% OF ALL HOUSEHOLDS. 
          THEY LIKE THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION MOVING AROUND WITH TAXIS, WALKING, BIKING. 
          UM, OVER HALF OF THE HOUSEHOLDS IN THIS SEGMENT ARE OCCUPIED BY SINGLES, UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER KIND OF STUFF, INTERESTED IN THE FINE ARTS, WILLING TO TAKE RISKS AND WORK LONG HOURS TO GET ON TOP OF THEIR PROFESSION. 
          THIS TO US JUMPED OUT AND KIND OF JIVES WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, 30 TO 40, UM, AGE GROUP IN ADDISON OF THE, THE FOLKS THAT ARE LIVE, LIVE AND WORKING AND PLAY IN IN ADDISON. 
          RIGHT? IT DOESN'T, IT DIDN'T STRIKE US THAT THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, AROUND HALF OF THE ADDISON COMMUNITY. 
          UM, QUESTION IS, IS IS THIS GOING TO BE THE MOST DOMINANT GROUP 20 YEARS FROM NOW? DOES IT NEED TO BE, DOES ADDISON WANT IT TO BE? I, I'M NOT SURE IT'S ACCURATE TODAY EXCEPT FOR RENTING. 
          I'M ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND I JUST TURNED 65 SO I WOULDN'T BE INCLUDED IN THAT GROUP. 
          AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH ALL OF THESE CUTE LABELS. 
          THEY'RE NOTHING BUT A FIGMENT OF SOMEBODY'S IMAGINATION TO TRY AND BOX THINGS IN SO THAT THEY CAN SELL THEIR PRODUCT OR GET CONSULTING CONTRACTS. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND, AND I, I MEAN, I MEAN, YOU HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THE REST OF IT, AND I WAS GONNA HOLD MY COMMENTS AND SAY YOU WENT THROUGH THE REST OF IT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I MEAN, URBAN CHIC, ENTERPRISING, PROFESSIONAL, YOUNG AND RESTLESS. 
          I MEAN, PEOPLE QUIBBLE WHETHER I'M YOUNG OR NOT, BUT I MEAN, I'M RESTLESS, . 
          I MEAN, WHERE DO I FIT IN? AND PEOPLE ARE MUCH MORE THAN WHAT THESE LABELS ARE. 
          SO I, I'M SORRY, I I I'M HAVING A, I I DID READ THE PACKET. 
          I'M HAVING A HARD TIME RELATING TO THIS. 
          SURE. 
          AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S FAIR. 
          AND, AND GUYS, I MEAN, FEEL, THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF FEEDBACK THAT WE WANT. 
          AND IT'S EXACTLY WHY YOU CAN'T BUILD A PLAN LOOKING JUST AT THE DATA AND THAT STUFF. 
          THAT'S WHY THIS COMMITTEE WAS PUT TOGETHER. 
          THAT'S WHY WE'RE UP HERE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS. 
          SO JUST THAT, THAT KIND OF INPUT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT. 
          YOU ALL KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY BETTER THAN ANYBODY AT ESRI THAT EITHER ANYBODY AT OUR TEAM, UM, YOU KNOW, IS GONNA, YOU KNOW, IS GONNA KNOW OR, OR BE ABLE TO SAY. 
          NOW, I, I DO THINK I, I LIKE THE DATA AND SOME OF THIS THAT GETS INTO, IN TERMS OF IT'S, IT'S BETTER THAN JUST GIVING US WHAT'S THE AGE SPLIT, OR WHAT'S THE OWN VERSUS RENT. 
          IT GETS INTO A LITTLE BIT OF LIFESTYLE AND WHAT FOLKS WANT. 
          UM, BUT I, I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE SPECIFIC TITLES OF THESE GROUPS AS I AM. 
          WHAT, WHAT, WHO ARE THE PEOPLE IN ADDISON TODAY AND IN THE FUTURE? WHERE DO THEY WANT TO LIVE? HOW DO THEY WANT TO GET AROUND? WHERE ARE THEY GONNA SHOP? WHERE ARE THEY GONNA EAT? THO THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO GET AT. 
          AND, AND IT ALL COMES BACK. 
          ACCOUNT PLAN IS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. 
          THIS GETS BACK TO WHAT, WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT DOES ADDISON HAVE TODAY? WHERE DO YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO PRESERVE WHAT'S THERE REDEVELOP, UM, OR ENHANCE, RIGHT? UM, SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, SURVEY TWO ADDITIONAL EFFORTS ARE GONNA START TO GET MORE SPECIFIC FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL AND FROM RESIDENTS ON WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? THESE ARE JUST INITIAL DATA POINTS THAT START TO TELL 
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US THE DATA THAT'S OUT THERE. 
          WHAT DOES IT GIVE US? THE NEXT TWO, THREE MONTHS IS ABOUT KIND OF VALIDATING THIS AND ANALYZING IT AND ADJUSTING IT BASED ON THE FEEDBACK OF THESE, THESE DISCUSSIONS. 
          TRIP ONE, TRIP TWO, AND TRIP THREE. 
          SO, YES, SIR. 
          I HAD THE SAME FEELING. 
          I COULDN'T IDENTIFY, OF COURSE, I'M MORE MATURE, BUT TO ME THIS WAS MORE FOR COMPANIES THAT WANT TO OPEN OUTLETS IN VARIOUS PARTS OF THE UNITED STATES. 
          THOSE GROUPINGS TO ME ARE MORE SALES ORIENTED. 
          OKAY, THERE IT GOES. 
          HI EVERYONE. 
          TYLER WRIGHTS HERE. 
          UM, REGARDING, KEVIN, YOUR QUESTION ABOUT, IS THIS, UH, TAPESTRY GONNA, YOU KNOW, PROCEED TO BE THE DOMINANT GOING FORWARD? UM, I THINK PROBABLY YES. 
          UM, BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, THE DART STATION AND THE CONTINUED, UH, DOMINANCE OF, OF, OF APARTMENTS HERE. 
          UM, BUT THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE CHALLENGES TO THAT REGARDING, YOU KNOW, UM, I CAN THINK OF THREE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS, OKAY, WHAT IF WORK FROM HOME'S HERE TO STAY? THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT LESS OFFICE DEMAND. 
          AND SO PERHAPS LESS CENTRAL, UM, UH, WHAT'S THE WORD? MOVEMENTS INTO BUSINESS DISTRICTS, RIGHT? SO THESE, THESE METRO RENTERS MAY BE SPREAD ACROSS THE COUNTRY OR ACROSS THE STATE. 
          UH, THE SECOND THING I CAN THINK OF IS ANY INSTABILITY IN THE HOUSING MARKET THAT MIGHT CAUSE RENT TO GO EVEN MORE INSANE THAN IT ALREADY IS. 
          DON'T, DON'T GET ME STARTED. 
          UM, AND, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, MAKE OTHER PLACES A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. 
          AND THIRD, I THINK IS, UM, WELL, HOW IS THE, HOW IS THE CLIMATE GONNA CHANGE IN THE NEXT 30 YEARS? YOU KNOW, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF DATA THAT SUPPORTS TEXAS ONLY GETTING HOTTER. 
          UM, SO FROM A RENTING STANDPOINT, FROM A WANT TO LIVE HERE STANDPOINT, THERE MAY BE LESS DEMAND, PURELY BECAUSE IT'LL KILL YOU. 
          YOU KNOW? SO, YOU KNOW THIS, SORRY, THAT'S A BIT DRAMATIC. 
          THIS GETS VERY, VERY HOT. 
          SO THERE MAY BE LIKE, HEY, I'M GONNA GO TO MINNEAPOLIS INSTEAD OF DFW, YOU KNOW? UH, SO I, I DO WONDER HOW THAT MIGHT CHANGE IN THE NEXT 30 YEARS. 
          RIGHT. 
          LET ME GO JUST GIVE A, A KIND OF A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE, THE OTHER ONES, AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT KIND OF IS, YOU KNOW, WHO'S, WHO'S MISSING HERE. 
          CAN I ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION THOUGH? SORRY. 
          YES. 
          IT'S DENISE. 
          I, I, I WANT SOME CLARITY OF, WHILE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS, WHAT YOU SAID, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IF YOU'VE BEEN IN ADDISON A LONG TIME, YOU WERE PROBABLY PART OF THAT 56%, AND YOU'VE NOW MOVED TO THE OTHER PARTS OF THE PIE CHECK CHART, WHICH IF YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP RETENTION, THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL ULTIMATELY HOPE, HOPE FOR. 
          BUT WAS YOUR QUESTION, IS THIS WHAT WE REALLY WANT? OR IS THERE OTHER PIECES OF THIS PIE THAT WE WANT BIGGER IN 10 TO 15 TO 20 YEARS? LIKE I, YOUR, YOUR QUESTION ARE VERY CLEAR. 
          I THINK WANNA I'D LIKE TO COME BACK TO THAT QUESTION AFTER I GO THROUGH THESE FIVE. 
          'CAUSE THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT BETWEEN NOW AND IN THE CONVERSATION IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IS HOW, HOW DO WE WANT IT TO, THE FIRST ONE IS, ARE THERE, DO WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S GROUPS THAT ARE MISSING TODAY? AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS, HOW DO WE SEE THIS ADJUSTING IN THE FUTURE? SO THE YOUNG AND RESTLESS GROUP, UM, WELL-EDUCATED YOUNG WORKERS, SOME OF WHOM ARE STILL COMPLETING THEIR EDUCATION, EMPLOYED IN PROFESSIONAL AND TECHNICAL OCCUPATIONS, AS WELL AS SALES AND OFFICE AND ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT ROLES. 
          THE THIRD ENTERPRISING YOUNG PROFESSIONALS CHARACTERIZE AS RESIDENTS WHO ARE WELL-EDUCATED, CLIMBING THE LADDER IN STEM SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY, ENGINEERING, MATH OCCUPATIONS. 
          THEY CHANGE JOBS FREQUENTLY. 
          THEY THEREFORE CHOOSE TO LIVE IN CONDOS, TOWN HOMES, OR APARTMENTS. 
          MANY STILL RENT THEIR HOMES. 
          THE URBAN CHIC , UH, I DON'T KNOW, I, I STILL LAUGH EVERY TIME I SAY THAT ONE. 
          BUT CHARACTERIZE AS PROFESSIONALS THAT LIVE A SOPHISTICATED, EXCLUSIVE LIFESTYLE. 
          THEY'RE BUSY, WELL CONNECTED AND WELL EDUCATED. 
          I THINK THAT DESCRIBES A LOT OF THE SENIORS HERE. 
          THEY ARE BETTER EDUCATED THAN MOST. 
          THEY ARE PRETTY, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SOPHISTICATED IN ADDISON AND PRETTY INVOLVED. 
          UM, A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM, AGAIN, SOME OF THE BROADER SENIOR, UH, POPULATION THAT WE WOULD SEE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          THE FIFTH ONE'S, EMERALD CITY POPULATION LIVING IN LOWER DENSITY NEIGHBORHOODS OF URBAN AREAS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY WHOSE INCOMES ARE DERIVED FROM WAGES, INVESTMENTS, AND SELF-EMPLOYMENT. 
          SO MORE OF THE RETIRED GROUP OR SELF-EMPLOYED FOLKS THAT LIVE IN A MORE RURAL SETTING. 
          THAT ONE, IT'S NOT VERY MUCH, IT'S ONLY 2% IN ADDISON. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYWHERE IN ADDISON THAT IS TRULY RURAL. 
          SO, UH, I , YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S SOME CONTACT, SOME CONTEXT HERE, BUT THE TAKE A LOT OF THIS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DETAILS ON ALL OF THESE, IT TENDS TO BE FOLKS THAT, THAT WANT MORE OF THE URBAN LIVING, THAT WANT MORE OF THE, UM, THAT TEND TO SKEW ON THE HIGHER EDUCATION, UH, SIDE. 
          UM, WE CAN GET INTO THE REASON FOR THE RENTING, AND I THINK THAT'S DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS. 
          UM, I DO THINK IT'S IMPACTED A LITTLE BIT BY AFFORDABILITY MORE AND MORE IN NORTH TEXAS. 
          AFFORDABILITY 
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IS IMPACTING FOLKS THAT RENT. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, HOW YOU GO ABOUT RENTING, YOU KNOW, OWNER RENT, WE'RE GONNA, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STUFF WE HAVE TO PAT UNPACK WITH OWN, YOU KNOW, OWN, OWN VERSUS RENT IN ADDISON. 
          UM, SO THAT ONE THING, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THEIR CATEGORIES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS FROM A DEMOGRAPHIC. 
          I DO IT A LOT MORE OUT WITH THIS GROUP OUTTA THE DEMOGRAPHICS. 
          YOUR OLDER GROUP, IT PROBABLY HAS A BIGGER BALANCE SHEET THAN WHAT THEY'RE GETTING FROM AN INCOME ON A, YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THEIR HOMES WORTH MORE, THEY HAVE MORE INVESTMENTS THAT DOESN'T, DOES THAT REALLY FACTORING INTO THIS MEDIAN INCOME NUMBER? BECAUSE THE NUMBERS SEEM REALLY LOW TO ME. 
          YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO ALL OF THE DETAILS OF THE DATA THAT EZRA USES. 
          I, I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET ACCESS TO EVERYTHING OBVIOUSLY EITHER. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS, A LOT OF THIS IS FROM PUBLICLY, YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE CENSUS DATA AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THEY, THAT THEY SEE SOME OF THE FOLLOW-UP IN INTERVIEWS AND, AND MARKET RESEARCH THAT THEY DO. 
          I, I DON'T WANT TO, I JUST, I GUESS I WANT TO EMPHASIZE AND FOCUS AS ON, DON'T GET TOO HUNG UP IN THESE SPECIFIC TITLES ON THE DATA. 
          THIS IS THE INITIAL DATA PULL, AND THAT'S THE MAIN POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT WAS GIVE SOME CONTEXT TO THE PACKET THAT YOU ALL HAD AND HOW WE'RE GONNA USE IT GOING FORWARD. 
          UM, THIS, BUT AGAIN, WE, THIS IS THE TRANSPARENT KIND OF ORG ORGANIC DIALOGUE THAT, THAT I WANT THAT ONE OF MY RESPONSES WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EMAIL THAT, THAT DAVE SENT WAS, THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS AND THEY'RE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE, I THINK A LOT OF THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED IN THE GROUP AND KIND OF TALK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, DOES EVERYBODY, DOES EVERYBODY FEEL LIKE THAT? SO I THINK WITH, WITH THE TAPESTRY STUFF, WE'LL GET THE FULL DESCRIPTIONS OF ALL OF THEM, UM, OUT TO EVERYONE. 
          UM, AGAIN, IT, IT'S A REFERENCE POINT. 
          IT'S NOT THE END ALL. 
          KEEP IN MIND THE, THE TAPESTRY DATA IS BASED ON THE TAPESTRY SEGMENTS NATIONALLY. 
          SO THIS ISN'T ADDISON SPECIFIC DATA, WHICH WE ARE, WE ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH. 
          THIS IS NATIONAL OF OTHER EMERALD CITY PEOPLE NET AROUND THE NATION THAT SHARE THOSE SAME CHARACTERISTICS. 
          AND I THINK THE EASIEST WAY TO LOOK AT THIS DATA, AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT THIS WAY AND YOU THINK ABOUT ADDISON, THIS IS ACTUALLY A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF ADDISON. 
          YOU THINK ABOUT IT PURELY FROM HOUSING, THE HOUSING CHARACTERISTICS, EVEN OUR LOWER DENSITY HOUSING IS PRETTY URBAN. 
          UH, AND THEY'RE IN URBAN AREAS. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT SEEING SOME OF THE MORE TRADITIONAL, UH, LOWER DENSITY, VERY LOW DENSITY, VERY SUBURBAN CHARACTERISTICS APPLIED HERE IN ADDISON. 
          'CAUSE EVEN WHERE WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, IT'S GENERALLY IN ENCLAVE IN AN URBAN AREA, IN COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, SURROUNDED BY MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOODS, AREAS THAT HAVE HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING, IT'S STILL URBAN. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, IF WE WERE TO DO THIS FOR PROSPER SALINA OR EVEN PLANO, IT WOULD LOOK MUCH DIFFERENT. 
          BUT ADDISON, YOU AT ITS CORE IS A URBAN, SUBURBAN COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S PRETTY DENSE, EVEN IN OUR LOW DENSITY AREAS. 
          SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, JUST FROM HOUSING, THAT'S THE BIG TAKEAWAY I HAVE FROM THIS, IS, THIS IS ACTUALLY PRETTY SPOT ON. 
          AND JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE TO EVERY, ALL FIVE OF THESE CATEGORIES NATIONALLY ARE UNDER 2%. 
          SO, I MEAN, METRO RENTERS, ADDISON HAS 56%. 
          UNITED STATES OVERALL IS ONLY 1.8%. 
          DAVE COLLINS, AGAIN, UM, I THINK THIS SPEAKS TO THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE. 
          I REALLY DO. 
          I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO DO A PLAN, UH, WE'RE NOW AT SEVEN 15, I'VE PROBABLY HEARD IT FIVE TO 10 TIMES HOW DIFFERENT WE ARE, HOW UNIQUE WE ARE, HOW OUR HOUSING MIX IS DIFFERENT, HOW THIS AND THIS AND THIS. 
          SO I, I THINK THE, FOR ME AT LEAST, THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS TO TRY AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE'S A WORLD OUT THERE BEYOND ADDISON. 
          AND WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF IT, AND WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT. 
          BUT SO MUCH OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE TO OUR TOWN. 
          AND HOW DO WE INCORPORATE A LOT OF THESE EXTERNAL FACTORS, WHETHER IT'S DEMOGRAPHIC DATA OR ESRI DATA, WHATEVER, TAPESTRY, AND NOT GET TOO HUNG UP ON IT. 
          BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, FRANKLY, WE COULD SPEND HOURS AND HOURS GOING OVER IT IN DETAIL AND STILL COME AWAY SAYING, WELL, IT'S NOT QUITE US. 
          SO MY ONLY CAUTIONARY NOTE IS JUST TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS JOURNEY TOGETHER, THAT WE ARE AN OUTLIER. 
          83%, YOU CAN DO THE MATH. 
          I DON'T THINK THERE'S TOO MANY COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE THAT METRIC. 
          SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT A VALUE JUDGMENT, IT'S JUST A REALITY CHECK. 
          YEP. 
          SO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T HAVE ANY, SO WITH THE, WITH THE TAPESTRY POINT, I THINK DAVE SAID THAT VERY, VERY WELL OF IT'S A DATA POINT FOR US, BUT AS WE GO FORWARD, WE'RE GONNA START TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE INITIAL DATA COLLECTION, RIGHT? WE, WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. 
          WE HAVE TO CAPTURE SOME DATA AND START THERE. 
          THE, IN MY MIND, 
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I WANTED TO LEAVE HERE TONIGHT AND SAY, OKAY, IS, DOES CPAC DO THESE NUMBERS? ARE THEY VALIDATING THESE NUMBERS? DO THEY HAVE FEEDBACK? IS THERE, IS THERE SOME CRITICISM TO THEM? WHAT I'M HEARING LOUD AND CLEAR IS THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS AND SOME CRITICISM TO 'EM. 
          AND WHAT THAT TELLS ME TO TELL THE TEAM IS WE NEED TO TEMPER HOW MUCH WE'RE RELYING ON THE ESRI STUFF AND PRIORITIZE MORE OF THE FEEDBACK AND DISCUSSION WE'RE GETTING FROM RESIDENTS. 
          TOTALLY FINE, TOTALLY FINE. 
          BUT WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? UM, YES, SIR. 
          I CAN'T SEE THE GREEN LIGHT ON THAT ONE. 
          . 
          IT'S A GOOD THING. 
          I'M NOT COLORBLIND, JOSEPH. 
          ER, UH, I GUESS MY COMMENT IS, I THINK A LOT OF THIS MAY BE FOCUSED ON RESIDENTS OR PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. 
          UM, SPECIFIC TO ADDISON OF BEING UNIQUE, I, I THOUGHT I REMEMBER THERE'S A STAT OF LIKE, THE BUSINESSES AND THE PEOPLE WHO COME IN IS A VERY LARGE POPULATION. 
          AND SO, AGAIN, THIS COULD BE WRONG, BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DAILY POPULATION DURING THE WEEK, HOW DIFFERENT IS THAT THAN OUR WEAKENED POPULATION? AND JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE, REFLECT, OR ACCOUNT FOR OUR BUSINESS POPULATION, BECAUSE THAT'S A, THAT'S BIGGER THAN THE ACTUAL POPULATION, IF I RECALL. 
          YEP. 
          BY ABOUT FIVE TIMES. 
          SO EMPLOYMENT SNAPSHOT, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THIS WILL COME TO A SUP AS A SURPRISE TO ANYONE, BUT, UM, HEAVY AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, MORE OF THE WHITE COLLAR TYPE EMPLOYMENT HERE VERSUS SOME OF THE BLUE COLLAR EMPLOYMENT YOU WOULD SEE IN SOME OTHER PLACES. 
          UM, ANY SURPRISES WITH THIS ONE? I, I ATROPHY, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE DATA. 
          IS THIS EMPLOYERS IN LOCATED IN ADDISON, OR IS THIS EMPLOYMENT OF RESIDENCE OF ADDISON EMPLOYMENT OF RESIDENCE IN EMPLOYMENT OF RESIDENCE, NOT NECESSARILY THE EMPLOYMENT, CORRECT. 
          TO THE GENTLEMAN WHO JUST COMMENTED ABOUT WHAT THE EMPLOYMENT SECTORS ARE HERE, THAT WOULD ATTRACT EITHER RESIDENTS OF ADDISON OR THE OUTSIZED POPULATION THAT COMES HERE TO WORK. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME OTHER CHARTS IN THE FULL PACKET THAT YOU'LL SEE COMING SOON THAT HAS SOME OF THAT DATA. 
          AND THEN THE MARKET AGAIN, SO SOME OF THIS IS THE, THE MARK, THE, THE DEMOGRAPHIC CENSUS DATA, THE TAPESTRY STUFF, THE, THE SURVEY AND IN-PERSON CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING. 
          AND THEN THE MARKET REPORT, ALL OF THAT'S GONNA COME TOGETHER SOON. 
          SO YOU SEE KIND OF THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE PICTURE. 
          THIS IS A, JUST TO INTRODUCE SOME OF THE DATA AND GET SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK FROM, FROM YOU ALL. 
          UM, THE HOUSING SNAPSHOT AS OF, UH, AUGUST, 2023, THIS IS COMING FROM SOME OF THE CITIES OR, OR THE TOWN'S, UH, SPECIFIC DATA, UM, CURRENT HOUSING UNITS IN THE TOWN AS OF AUGUST, 2023, 11,447, OWNERSHIP TO RENT MIX THERE WITH CITY DATA, WITH TOWN WITH TOWN DATA 21 VERSUS 79%. 
          SO A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE CENSUS DATA FROM 2022, UM, APPROVED HOUSING UNITS, 15,689, AND THEN THE OWN, THE APPROVED OWNERSHIP VERSUS RENTAL MIX OF 16.8 TO 83%. 
          SO YOU'RE STILL IN THAT KIND OF 80 20 RANGE OF RENT TO OWN, UM, BASED, IF YOU COMPARE THAT TO THE, THE AGE DEMOGRAPHICS, THE SPLITS OF WHO, WHO'S HERE YOU, IF YOU WANT TO INTEGRATE A LITTLE BIT AND CONSIDER A LITTLE BIT OF THAT TAPESTRY INFORMATION AND JUST KIND OF THINK TO, TO KEN'S POINT ABOUT THE, THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN ADDISON IS, YOU HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS OF THAT TYPE THAT ARE, THAT ARE LOOKING FOR THE RENTALS. 
          UH, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A, I FEEL LIKE A JUST INITIAL FEEDBACK OF A GROWING GROUP IN THE COMMUNITY THAT'S LOOKING FOR MORE OWNERSHIP OF DIFFERENT TYPES. 
          AND SO COULD THIS POSITION, OR COULD THAT, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT NEED TO SKEW, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR 20 YEARS, 20 YEARS FROM NOW TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OWNERSHIP THAN RENTAL? AND WHERE CAN IT GO? AND HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? IS THAT'S JUST A, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA BE DIVING INTO ON THE HOUSING SIDE OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          YEAH. 
          QUICK QUESTION ON THE 21.3% CURRENT OWNERSHIP, IS THAT BASED ON PROPERTIES, UM, HOUSES THAT ARE OWNED BY PEOPLE, MEANING LIKE, THERE'S A LOT OF 'EM, A LOT OF 'EM COULD BE OWNED BY SOMEBODY, BUT, BUT SOMEBODY'S REALLY RENTING IT. 
          THEY'RE NOT HOME, THEY'RE NOT, THE OWNERS AREN'T LIVING IN THERE. 
          DO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION? SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CENSUS DATA AND RENTAL VERSUS OWNER VERSUS, UH, OWNER OCCUPIED, THAT'S WHERE IT CAPTURES MULTI-FAMILY RENTAL PLUS SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL. 
          THIS IS THE TOWN DATA BASED ON THE PREVAILING DIALOGUE ON MULTI-FAMILY VERSUS WHAT IS PERCEIVED AS WHAT IS PRIMARILY OWNERSHIP HOUSING, BUT CAN BE RENTED. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I INCLUDED THAT PARENTHETICAL STATEMENT OF CAN ALSO BE RENTED. 
          SO, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CENSUS DATA FOR TODAY, I BELIEVE 
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IT'S ABOUT 83% RENTAL. 
          'CAUSE THAT CAPTURES ALSO THE SINGLE FAMILY. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 78 AND THE 83. 
          CORRECT. 
          IT'S KINDA INTERESTING. 
          WHEN I, WHEN I MOVED, WHEN WE BUILT OUR HOUSE IN 92, IT WAS 12% OWNER OCCUPIED IN ADDISON. 
          SO IT, IT'S IN, IT'S INCREASED OVER TIME, BUT IT'S BASICALLY KIND OF THE SAME FOR THE LAST 30 PLUS YEARS. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT 80% NUMBER IS, IS HAS REMAINED PRETTY STATIC SINCE THE EIGHTIES. 
          SO SOMETHING THAT, THAT ADDISON IS BLESSED TO HAVE THAT, THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES DON'T, IS YOU DO HAVE A, A PRETTY DIVERSE MIX OF HOUSING TYPES HERE. 
          IN TERMS OF OTHER THINGS BESIDES JUST APARTMENT MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, YOU HAVE THE DUPLEX, THE TRIPLEX, THE TOWN HOMES, THE CONDOS. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF THAT. 
          WHAT IN THE PLANNING FIELD WE CALL MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, RIGHT? THAT IS A REALLY KEY FACTOR TO KEEPING HOUSING AFFORDABLE FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS OF, IF YOU WANT MORE FOLKS COMING TO, TO ADDISON, YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO ADD SOME POPULATION IN HERE. 
          YOU CAN'T JUST PUT 'EM ALL IN ONE TYPE OR THE MARKET'S GONNA GO SKEW OFF. 
          WE'RE SEEING THAT ACROSS NORTH TEXAS OVERALL, RIGHT? YOU, YOU OVERLOAD ON SINGLE FAMILY, IT'S GONNA DRIVE THE PRICES UP. 
          AND ADDISON HAS A LOT OF THE KINDS OF HOUSING THAT PEOPLE MOVING TO NORTH TEXAS AND MOVING WITHIN NORTH TEXAS WANT MORE OF. 
          UM, IT'S GOING, I IT'S GONNA DRIVE THE PRICES UP, WHICH FOR THE YOUNG PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE CRITICAL TO ADDISON, IT NEEDS TO BE AFFORDABLE SOMEHOW, WHICH GETS BACK TO SOME OF THE APARTMENTS AND THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE, THAT ARE HERE. 
          SO IT'S JUST GONNA BE A FUN CONVERSATION HERE TO TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE PROVIDE MORE, MORE OWNERSHIP HOUSING THAT FOLKS ARE ASKING FOR. 
          UM, BUT HOW DO YOU CONTINUE TO, TO HAVE SOME OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF RENTALS THAT ARE GONNA KEEP HOUSING OPTIONS AFFORDABLE FOR THE, THOSE YOUNGER FOLKS THAT, UM, THAT WORK IN SO MANY OF THE BUSINESSES THAT, THAT MAKE ADDISON WHAT IT IS? YES, SIR. 
          I, I AL CHAFFEY AGAIN, I'M CONFUSED ABOUT SOMETHING. 
          AND THIS TOPIC CAME UP AND AT THE SAM'S CLUB REDEVELOPING COMMITTEE AS WELL, RIGHT? THIS TOPIC OF JUST HOUSING, I'M GONNA QUIBBLE WITH THE NUMBERS. 
          APPROXIMATELY 120,000 PEOPLE THAT COME HERE, THE DAYTIME POPULATION AND 18,000 IS THE NIGHTTIME POPULATION. 
          DO WE REALLY CARE WHO LIVES HERE? I MEAN, THAT'S A SERIOUS QUESTION. 
          IS THE WEALTH AND THE WELLBEING OF ADDISON DRIVEN BY THE DAYTIME POPULATION, OR IS IT DRIVEN BY THE NIGHTTIME POPULATION? I THINK IT'S A FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE, AND I STILL CAN'T GET PAST THIS BECAUSE PRIOR TO 2017 WHEN WE ACTUALLY BECAME ONE OF THE 3.1% THAT ALMOST OWNS A TOWN HOME, WE CAME HERE A LOT, A LOT TO PLAY  AND THOSE, AND, AND THE REASON WHY WE LIVE HERE IS BECAUSE IN MY VIEW, RESIDENTS REAP AN OUTSIDE BENEFIT OF THE CHOICES THAT WE HAVE OF DINING AND ENTERTAINMENT AND ALL OF THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT ADDISON HAS TO OFFER. 
          BECAUSE THE DAYTIME POPULATION IS WHAT DRIVES IT. 
          IT'S THE EMPLOYMENT. 
          THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION ON THE PRIOR SLIDE, IS THAT THE EMPLOYERS THAT ARE HERE, THE EMPLOYER MIX, OR IS THAT WHERE PEOPLE WORK WHAT THEY DO? OKAY, I WORK OUTTA MY HOME, BUT THE COMPANY I WORK FOR IS OUTTA STATE, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          THEY DON'T COUNT. 
          THEY, THEY CONTRIBUTE ONE TAXPAYER TO THE ROLES IN, IN, IN ADDISON. 
          IT'S, IT'S THE DAYTIME POPULATION. 
          THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE WE NEED TO FOCUS ON. 
          IF WE WANNA THINK ABOUT NOW, IF WE WANT THAT TO CHANGE, AND IF WE BELIEVE THAT BY 2050 ADDISON IS NO LONGER GOING TO RELY ON THE DAYTIME POPULATION, AND THAT'S GOING TO SHIFT FOR WHATEVER REASON, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO, OR BECAUSE THERE WERE MACROECONOMIC TERM, UH, UH, ECONOMIC TRENDS THAT ARE GOING TO DRIVE THAT, THEN YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. 
          BUT IF THAT'S NOT GOING TO SHIFT, I HAVE TO QUESTION WHY WE'RE FOCUSED ON RESIDENCY. 
          I THINK YOU GOTTA LOOK AT IT. 
          UH, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT THAT ISSUE. 
          AL I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, UM, TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION, NO, YOU DON'T NEED TO CARE ABOUT THAT ISSUE. 
          BUT IF YOU CARE ABOUT HAVING AN INCREASING HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, ADDISON NEEDS TO DEARLY CARE ABOUT AFFORDABILITY. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T BUILD A HOUSE THAT'S AFFORDABLE FOR THE FOLKS THAT WOULD CHOOSE TO LOCATE IN ADDISON, UH, TO PURCHASE AND ACQUIRE, THEN YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET A BUILDER TO BUILD THOSE OWNERSHIP HOUSING OPTIONS. 
          SO THE, THE, THE, THE FOLKS THAT BUILD THOSE HOMES, THEY DO LOOK AT DEMOGRAPHIC DATA LIKE TAPESTRY AND THE OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, AND THEY SEE THAT ADDISON SKUS, AND THERE'S OTHER ISSUES THAT COME INTO THIS AS WELL, SUCH AS SCHOOLS. 
          WE DO HAVE GOOD SCHOOL OPTIONS, BUT 
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IT'S NOT QUITE, NOT NECESSARILY PERCEIVED IN A WAY THAT YOU HAVE IN SOME OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES. 
          SO THEY PRIMARILY SKEW THEIR OWNERSHIP OPTIONS TOWARDS, UH, HOUSING TYPES THAT ARE MORE DENSE AND URBAN AND THAT ARE GEARED TOWARDS EITHER SINGLE PERSON HOUSEHOLDS OR, UM, A UM, TWO PERSON HOUSEHOLD. 
          AND FOR, THERE'S ONLY SO MANY PEOPLE, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR OUTCOME PART INCOME, PARTICULARLY AS, UH, A SINGLE PERSON HOUSEHOLD THAT CAN PAY $700,000 FOR A TOWN HOME OR WOULD CHOOSE TO. 
          SO IF THERE'S A, A, IF IT'S A GOAL OF THE TOWN TO PROVIDE HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, YOU NEED TO VERY MUCH NEED TO ADDRESS THE CONCEPT OF ATTAINABILITY. 
          THAT'S HOW I, I I THINK AT OBTAINABILITY IS A MUCH BETTER WORD FOR THAT. 
          'CAUSE YOU CAN BE AN ATTORNEY MAKING $200,000 A YEAR AND A $700,000 TOWN HOME IS NOT ATTAINABLE FOR YOU. 
          I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          MY POINT IS, IS THAT REALLY IMPORTANT? IS THAT WHAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON? IS THAT WHAT'S GOING TO DRIVE THE VIBRANCY OF THE COMMUNITY TODAY AS WE UNDERSTAND IT AND KNOW IT? AND IF WE WANT IT TO CHANGE, THEN SURE, WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT I, I, TO ME, THAT'S A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION. 
          YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW. 
          AND I, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT, BUT I KNOW I'VE SPENT A LOT OF MY LAST YEAR TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE SHARED THAT AS A VALUE FOR ADDISON. 
          SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THAT PATH, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU AS A GROUP ARE, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSIONS ON. 
          THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, AL. 
          I I WOULD JUST ADD TO IT WHEN I GET TO THE FISCAL ANALYSIS SLIDE IN A SECOND. 
          THAT'S PART OF HOW WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT. 
          UM, AND THEN THE MARKET RESEARCH, UM, AS WELL. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S A PROPERTY TAX COMPONENT AND THERE'S A SALES TAX, UM, COMPONENT. 
          SO, UM, COUPLE OTHER THINGS. 
          THE, THE FIRST SURVEY THAT WE DID, THE VIBRANT COMMUNITY ASSESSMENT, THIS, UH, FOR THOSE WHO, WHO WEREN'T HERE THE FIRST TIME AND, AND DIDN'T HEAR US TALK ABOUT IT, THE, THIS IS BASED OFF OF A BOOK BY QUINT STUDER CALLED BUILDING VIBRANT COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, WE REWORKED A FEW OF THESE QUESTIONS TO BETTER FIT ADDISON. 
          UM, BUT A FEW JUST TAKEAWAYS OF THIS ONE, THIS IS A, A VERY SIMPLE SURVEY OF, I THINK IT WAS 13, UH, 13 QUESTIONS TOTAL. 
          THE FIRST 10 ARE ON A ONE TO 10 SCALE. 
          UM, THE THING THAT JUMPS OUT HERE, I KNOW THIS IS, IS SMALL, BUT YOU, YOU HAVE, UH, YOU'VE GOT THIS SUMMARY IN YOUR YOU PACKET AS WELL, BUT QUESTION FIVE ASKS, HOW VIBRANT IS YOUR TOWN? UM, AND THE, THE RESPONSES THERE, YOU HAD 7.87. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE HIGHEST ANSWERS WE'VE EVER SEEN ON THIS SURVEY. 
          UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T THINK TOO HIGHLY OF THE VIBRANCY OF THEIR TOWN. 
          UM, ADDISON VERY CLEARLY THE RESPONDENTS TO THE SURVEY AT LEAST THINK, THINK HIGHLY OF IT. 
          I THINK YOU WALK AND, AND DRIVE AND MOVE AROUND ADDISON, IT'S A PRETTY VIBRANT AND PROSPEROUS PLACE. 
          UM, THE QUESTION AGAIN LOOKING FORWARD IS HOW DO WE KEEP IT THAT WAY? UM, LOOKING DOWN AT QUESTIONS, UH, 11 AND 12. 
          SO WHAT'S THE TOWN'S BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY IN FOR IMPROVEMENT? UM, OVER 19% SAID FEWER APARTMENTS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR IMPROVEMENT . 
          UM, AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT QUESTION 12, DESCRIBE WHAT YOU FEEL THE TOWN'S BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS. 
          THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A WORD CLOUD, BUT THE BIGGEST WORD IN THAT WORD CLOUD IS APARTMENTS, . 
          SO YOU HAVE APARTMENTS THAT'S BOTH AN OPPORTUNITY FRAMED AS FEWER APARTMENTS. 
          AND THEN A CHALLENGE, UM, AS WELL, WHICH AGAIN IS A LITTLE, A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN, THAN THE RESPONSES THAT WE WOULD SEE, UM, IN SOME OTHER PLACES. 
          BUT TO, TO GO TO THE OTHER THREE ON THE OPPORTUNITY SIDE, 14% SAID WALKABILITY AND BIKEABILITY IMPROVING THE BIKING AND WALKING WITHIN THE, THE TOWN. 
          I THINK AS WE MOVE INTO A MOBILITY CONVERSATION ABOUT ADDISON, DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN, THERE SEEMS TO BE REALLY BROAD SUPPORT FOR IMPROVING PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS CONNECT, YOU KNOW, INSIDE A NEIGHBORHOOD BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS AND SPACES. 
          UM, THE CYCLING ONE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE MORE DIVISIVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. 
          INITIAL FEEDBACK. 
          SOME SEEM TO BE FOR IT, SOME TO BE, SEEM TO BE, UM, A LITTLE MORE, UH, HESITANT TO THAT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA AGAIN, EXPLORE THAT. 
          I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S DEMOGRAPHICS THERE. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT INTERESTS ON THE, THE CYCLING SIDE ESPECIALLY. 
          AND I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS IN HERE THAT ON THIS COMMITTEE THAT, UH, ARE CYCLISTS. 
          AND SO WE WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TAP IT INTO YOU ALL FOR, FOR THAT INPUT. 
          UM, 12% SAID REDEVELOPMENT IS AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, IT'S ALSO BURIED IN THERE IN TERMS OF A CHALLENGE REDEVELOPMENT FOR A COMMUNITY LIKE ADDISON. 
          IT'S A NECESSITY. 
          , YOU CAN CALL IT AN OPPORTUNITY OR A CHALLENGE, BUT IT IS A NECESSITY FOR, FOR ADDISON. 
          AND THEN THE, THE FOURTH ONE WAS GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNICATION. 
          I WANNA POINT THIS ONE OUT 'CAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING, I DON'T REMEMBER IF I SAID IT IN THE FIRST MEETING OR NOT, BUT OF WHEN WE WORK IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND DO DIFFERENT KINDS OF COMP PLANS, STRATEGIC PLANS, WHATEVER, WE ASK ALL OF THESE 
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QUESTIONS ABOUT LAND USE AND DENSITY AND HOUSING. 
          BUT WE ALSO ASK QUESTIONS THAT JUST GET AT HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT? USUALLY THE THING THAT COMES UP AS THE BIGGEST CONCERN FROM RESIDENTS IS A LACK OF TRUST AND POOR COMMUNICATION WITH THEIR GOVERNMENT. 
          UM, I DON'T FEEL THAT HERE, UM, IN THE FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WE HAD SOME ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS, I FEEL LIKE THAT IT WAS COUCHED OF WHEN WE HAD CONVERSATIONS LIKE THAT WAS, I LOVE OUR STAFF, WE'RE DOING GREAT, BUT IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          UM, AND IT SEEMED LIKE A LITTLE KIND OF NITPICKING  IN, IN SOME WAYS. 
          BUT YOU GUYS HAVE A FRIDAY EMAIL THAT GOES OUT EVERY, A LOT OF CITIES DON'T DO THAT. 
          UM, THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT THINGS ABOUT HERE, BUT IT DID STILL SHOW UP AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR IMPROVEMENT, UM, THAT I THOUGHT WAS WORTH, WORTH POINTING OUT. 
          UM, THE LAST QUESTION IS ONE THAT WE ALWAYS LIKE TO END IT WITH IS JUST HOW, IF YOU SEE OPPORTUNITY IN YOUR CITY, OR IF YOU WANT YOUR TOWN TO, TO IMPROVE, HOW LIKELY ARE YOU TO, UM, COMMIT IN SOME WAY TO HELPING TO, TO IMPROVE, UH, YOUR COMMUNITY? AND AGAIN, A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL, UH, OF WILLINGNESS TO, TO CONTRIBUTE TO IMPROVING THEIR COMMUNITY HERE? SO LAND USE, FISCAL ANALYSIS, THIS IS SOMETHING, UM, VERY CENTRAL PART OF WHAT WE DO WITH OUR PLANNING, UH, WORK. 
          IT'S GOT DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS IN DIFFERENT PLACES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IN SOME PLACES IT'S A CONVERSATION ABOUT A CITY IS WAY, WAY, WAY BEHIND ON INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT. 
          UM, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP IN SOME PLACES. 
          IT'S HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO PAY THE BILLS AS A CITY WHILE KEEPING HOUSING AFFORDABLE? UM, IN ADDISON, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY THAT ADDISON IS UNIQUE. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE 52% OF YOUR GENERAL FUND COMES FROM PROPERTY TAX. 
          A LOT OF PLACES WE SEE 30%, 40% HAVING 50% OF YOUR GENERAL FUND COMING FROM PROPERTY TAX IS A VERY FINANCIALLY STRONG PLACE TO BE IN A PROPERTY TAX PLACE LIKE TEXAS. 
          I'LL GET TO YOU ONE SEC. 
          UM, BUT YOU ALSO SEE 34% OF THAT FOR THIS ON THE, THE RIGHT THERE FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR COMING FROM SALES TAX. 
          UM, THE CHART THERE SHOWS THE FIVE YEAR TREND. 
          SO IT SHOWS HOW ADDISON'S ADDISON'S GENERAL FUND HAS GROWN FROM 40 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 20 TO OVER 48 MILLION IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF HOW THOSE PERCENTAGES, UM, HAVE SHIFTED. 
          BUT YOU SEE THAT KIND OF SLOW INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, RIGHT? THAT'S AS YOU DEVELOP MORE AND YOU PUT BUILT STUFF ON THE GROUND, YOU'RE CAPTURING MORE OF THAT PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. 
          BUT YOU HAVE A VERY HEALTHY SPLIT THERE BETWEEN SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAX. 
          BUT TO YOUR POINT, WELL, LET ME PAUSE, LET ME SEE WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS AND THEN I'LL, MY QUESTION AL CHFI AGAIN, MY QUESTION IS, OF THAT $24.8 MILLION OF PROPERTY TAX IN FISCAL YEAR 24, HOW MUCH OF IT COMES FROM OWNER OCCUPIED? HOW MUCH OF IT COMES FROM RESIDENCE? EITHER APARTMENTS OR LESS? LESS THAN 15%. 
          IT'S ALL OFFICE BUILDINGS. 
          AND SUE, WHAT'S YOUR REFERENCE POINT FOR THAT? JUST FOR MY, I'M CURIOUS. 
          YEAH, MORE THAN 85% COMES FROM COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND THAT INCLUDES APARTMENTS. 
          AND WITHIN THAT 85% THAT INCLUDES APARTMENTS, LESS THAN 15% COMES FROM OWNER. 
          I, I GUESS, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, TOWN HOMES, RESIDENTIAL, SO FORTH. 
          SO ONE OF THE REASONS BEING A RESIDENT HERE IS GREAT BECAUSE WE GET SO MUCH SALE, SO MUCH PROPERTY TAX FROM COMMERCIAL VENTURES. 
          I, I MEAN THE, THE, THE, THE THOUGHT EXPERIMENT THAT I WOULD DO, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT A THOUGHT EXPERIMENT, WE CAN GET THE NUMBERS. 
          IF THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE RESIDENT OF ADDISON, WHAT WOULD THE BUDGET BE? WOULD IT DROP TO 40 MILLION? WOULD IT DROP TO 20 MILLION? I MEAN, I'M HEARING THAT 85% OF THAT 52% IS PROP, IS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAX. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT IS, IS RENTERS, IT WOULDN'T BE HAD NOT A SINGLE RESIDENT OF ADDISON. 
          WHAT WOULD THAT NUMBER DROP TO? BECAUSE TO ME THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S ILLUMINATIVE. 
          IT'S ILLUMINATIVE, EXCUSE ME. 
          IT WOULDN'T, IT ILLUMINATES THE PROBLEM, BUT WHO WOULD, EXCUSE ME. 
          I THINK I JUST MADE UP A WORD TO MAKE UP . 
          SO KEEP IN MIND, THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST EXPENDITURES ARE PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE A ROBUST EMPLOYMENT BASE, THAT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. 
          YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A NEED FOR POLICE AND FIRE AND THEN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR YOU TO, ONCE AGAIN, TO HAVE A ROBUST EMPLOYMENT BASE, YOU NEED ROADS AND UTILITIES. 
          I, I, I'M NOT ARGUING THAT I'M ARGUING WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE BUS BUDGET OF THE, OF WHAT I THINK THE SPEND COMES FROM PEOPLE LIVING HERE RATHER THAN FROM PEOPLE WORKING AND PLAYING HERE. 
          THAT IS MY POINT. 
          AND IF IT'S OUTSIZED ON PEOPLE WORKING AND PLAYING HERE, TO ME THAT'S THE GUIDING BEACON. 
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IT'S A QUESTION, THE GUIDING BEACON FOR THIS ENTIRE EXERCISE. 
          YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, IT'S, IT'S NOT REALISTIC. 
          WE NEED PEOPLE TO, UH, OBVIOUSLY TO, UM, TO GO TO THE RESTAURANTS, TO UM, GO TO THE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE HERE. 
          ALTHOUGH OUR RESIDENTIAL POPULATION WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE KIND OF A TOURIST COMMUNITY. 
          TOURISTS BEING DEFINED AS ANYBODY THAT COMES IN FROM OUTSIDE OF ADDISON, CARROLLTON, RESIDENTS, FARMERS BRANCH, THEY'RE ALL TOURISTS. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF, I MEAN, TRUE IN, IN TERMS OF HOW THAT IS DEFINED. 
          UM, BUT THE RESIDENTS AND THE ABILITY TO HOUSE PEOPLE HERE IS ALSO GOING TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES, AS DOES THE AIRPORT, YOU KNOW, AS DO THE OTHER AMENITIES. 
          IT MAKES BUSINESSES WANNA MOVE HERE BECAUSE THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. 
          SO I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT AL'S SAYING, BUT IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT REALISTIC. 
          SO WE HAVE TO, TO ME, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SMALL RESIDENTIAL POPULATION. 
          OUR DAYTIME RESIDENTIAL, OUR DAYTIME POPULATION WILL BE PROBABLY SIX TIMES WHAT OUR RESIDENTIAL, IF NOT MORE. 
          AND, AND THAT'S JUST WHO WE ARE. 
          WE'RE A DENSE URBAN ENVIRONMENT. 
          YOU KNOW, I WONDER WHAT THOSE, UH, PERCENTAGES ARE IN MANHATTAN. 
          NOT ALL OF NEW YORK CITY, BUT IN MANHATTAN, YOU KNOW, BUT THERE ARE LESS RESIDENCES AND HUGE DAYTIME POPULATION AS PEOPLE COME INTO WORK AND THEN LEAVE. 
          SO . 
          SO, I MEAN, IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE NORTH OF NORTH, YOU KNOW, NORTH TEXAS AS, AS NEW YORK CITY, AND YOU CONSIDER ADDISON THE MANHATTAN INSIDE THAT, THAT'S, I MEAN, IT'S INTERESTING TO, TO LOOK AT, I I THINK JUST TO KIND OF KEEP THE, THE EYE KIND OF FOCUSED IS, IS WHAT WHAT YOU HAVE IS WORKING WELL, UM, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, BACK IN 2013 IT WAS, IT WAS DIFFERENT. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, MORE VISIONARY FOR WHAT WAS HAPPENING AROUND YOU. 
          AND I, I, I TOLD THE, THE STORY, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN I MOVED HERE FIRST, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OUTTA SCHOOL, I LIVED DOWN IN THE, THE VILLAGE AND WE SPENT A TON OF MONEY IN ADDISON . 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T LIVE IN ADDISON, BUT WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY HERE. 
          WHERE ADDISON HAS CHANGED IS WHERE WE'RE SITTING TODAY. 
          YOU'RE, YOU'RE ATTRACTING MORE PEOPLE THAT SPEND EVEN MORE MONEY IN, UM, IN ADDISON. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S JUST PART OF UNDERSTANDING WHO ADDISON IS AND, AND WHO YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SERVE. 
          BUT THE BUSINESS, THE BUSINESSES AND THE SALES TAX, SALES TAX AND THE COMMERCIAL THAT THEY PAY ARE A BIG PART OF THE FISCAL HEALTH OF ADDISON. 
          YES, SIR. 
          IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO BREAK OUT. 
          HOLD ON DAVE . 
          SORRY. 
          YEAH, LOOK, I THINK THIS IS CRITICAL, AND THIS IS JUST AN EXCELLENT CHART AS WELL, THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER BOTH OF THESE TO, UM, FRAME THIS, BUT A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICITY. 
          I THINK THE BREAKOUT, OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY HERE WAS IMMEDIATELY JUMPING AT THE, UH, PROPERTY TAX BREAKDOWN COMMERCIAL, UH, MULTI SINGLE FAMILY. 
          I, I WOULD THINK THOSE NUMBERS WOULD BE DIRECTIONALLY AVAILABLE TO YOU. 
          YES. 
          AND WE HAVE A LOT MORE. 
          WE, WE JUST WEREN'T, WE WEREN'T QUITE READY TO ROLL OUT THE WHOLE THING 'CAUSE WE GOT SOME STAFF FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE TO INTEGRATE, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE THIS IS GOING. 
          I FIGURED YOU WERE AHEAD IN THERE BECAUSE SAID, LOOK, WE CAN'T HAVE THE CONVERSATION SOLELY BE BASED ON THE, I DON'T WANNA SAY THE, THE EMOTIONAL FEEL OF THIS. 
          WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY PUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE THINK IS OUR JOB BEING ON A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND HOW WE SEE ADDISON REDEVELOP IS OBVIOUSLY GONNA BE WHERE WE THINK WE'RE GONNA IMPROVE AND, AND MAINTAIN PROPERTY VALUES, RIGHT? IS PART AND PARCEL WITH ALL THIS. 
          SO IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW, UH, JUST FROM A RESIDENT STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, ON THE SALES TAX RECEIPTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AGAIN, IS A COMPARISON. 
          I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE WOULD FIND THAT FASCINATING ABOUT HOW MUCH SALES TAX IS GENERATED, YOU KNOW, PER RESIDENT. 
          UM, AGAIN, IT'S PROBABLY AN OUTLIER, UM, BUT AN IMPORTANT NUMBER, SALES TAX, AS YOU GUYS PROBABLY KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT WITH HOW MUCH DATA WE CAN GET AND HOW WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MODEL IT GEOGRAPHICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT WE DO PROPERTY TAX, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE MARKET RESEARCH THAT WE'RE DOING AS WELL. 
          AND YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS AWESOME WITH THE DATA THAT, THAT THEY HAVE. 
          SO YOU'RE GONNA START TO SEE, YOU KNOW, MORE OF THAT INFORMATION COME TOGETHER. 
          UM, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS THIS IS THE ASSESSED VALUE THAT THE 2022 TAX ROLLS. 
          THIS JUST SHOWS THE, THE FLAT ASSESSED VALUE FOR EVERY PROPERTY IN ADDISON. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GET YOUR ASSESSMENT, IT SAYS YOUR ASSESSED VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY IS, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE SIZE OF THE, THE PROPERTY, THE LOCATION OF THE PROP, THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, BUT IF WE REALLY WANNA START TO COMPARE PROPERTIES ON MORE OF AN APPLES TO APPLES BASIS, WHAT WE DO IS TAKE THE ASSESSED VALUE AND WE DIVIDE IT BY THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY AND YOU GET A VALUE PER ACRE NUMBER. 
          THAT'S WHAT THE SECOND ONE IS. 
          SO THE PINK OR THE, THE LOWER VALUES, AND I STILL, I USE LOW LOOSELY HERE BECAUSE 
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LOW VALUE IN ADDISON IS STILL BETTER THAN 90% THE METROPLEX. 
          UM, ONE OF THE COMMENTS FROM STAFF THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS PULLING THE AIRPORT PROPERTY OUT OF THIS BECAUSE THE, THE AIRPORT HAS ITS OWN FUND AND IT PAYS FOR A LOT OF STUFF OUT OF ITS OWN FUND. 
          UH, SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, BUT YOU CAN SEE KIND OF PINK, THE PINK ON THE LOW END PURPLE ON THE HIGH END, UM, WHERE THE HIGH LOWEST TO HIGHEST VALUE PER ACRE OR ASSESSED VALUE PER ACRE PROPERTIES ARE. 
          UM, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT VERSION OF THIS IS WE BRING IN THE, THE ACTUAL TAX REVENUE PER ACRE. 
          SO WE'LL PULL OUT ANYTHING THAT'S EXEMPT AND NOT PAYING PROPERTY TAXES. 
          UM, BUT WE'LL GET THE ACTUAL PROPERTY TAX THAT ADDISON IS COLLECTING AND DO A TAX REVENUE PER ACRE. 
          UH, THEN WE ALSO DO SOME NET PER ACRE ONES WHERE WE FACTOR IN SOME OF THE PUBLIC SERVICE COSTS. 
          SO I'LL GO THROUGH THAT LATER, BUT I WANTED YOU TO GET COMFORTABLE WITH THE VALUE PER ACRE MODELING. 
          SOMETIMES THE 2D MAP DOESN'T SHOW THE WHOLE STORY, RIGHT? SO IF WE FLIP IT IN 3D, YOU CAN REALLY SEE WHERE THE MONEY MAKERS ARE IN ADDISON. 
          I WAS TRYING TO GET, UH, THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY SHOW THE, THE ONLINE VERSION OF THIS. 
          BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A VERSION FOR, FOR YOU ALL AND FOR STAFF THAT YOU CAN GO ONLINE, YOU CAN SPIN THIS, YOU CAN ZOOM AROUND, YOU CAN ZOOM IN AND OUT. 
          YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS ANY DIFFERENT WAY YOU WANT. 
          YOU CAN CLICK ON A PROPERTY AND IT'LL PULL UP THE NUMBERS FOR YOU. 
          UM, BECAUSE YOU CAN SPIN THIS MAP ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND YOU'RE STILL NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE THE FULL PICTURE OF ADDISON, BUT YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE VALUE ALONG THE TOLL ROAD. 
          UH, YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE VAL, THE VALUE OF VITRUVIAN DOWN THERE AT THE, AT THE BOTTOM, UM, AND EXPLORING MORE. 
          UM, ALL OF THE CHARTS THAT COME BEHIND THIS DIG INTO WHAT'S SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX, WHAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, AROUND ADDISON CIRCLE VERSUS OTHER. 
          THERE'S ALL KINDS OF WAYS THAT WE SLICE AND DICE THIS DATA. 
          BUT BEFORE WE PRESENTED THE WHOLE THING TO YOU, WE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD IMPACT FROM OUR INPUT FROM STAFF THAT WE WANT TO GET INTEGRATED INTO THOSE NUMBERS. 
          SO WE'RE NOT MISREPRESENTING THE, UH, THE DATA, BUT THE IDEA HERE IS TO THINK FROM A FOOTPRINT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A FINITE, FINITE AMOUNT OF LAND, UM, TO BUILD ON, YOU'RE GONNA, AS A CITY AT A TOWN, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SERVICES, ET CETERA. 
          SO YOU WANNA CAPTURE AS MUCH VALUE BACK OUTTA THAT DEVELOPMENT AS YOU CAN. 
          UM, WHEN YOU HAVE, IF I WERE TO SHOW YOU A MAP LIKE THIS FOR SOME OF MORE OF THE OUTER SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES, THE VALUE PER ACRE FOR LARGE LOTS, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS WAY LOW. 
          THE, THE HIGHER DENSITY, THE SMALL LOTS ALWAYS DOES THE BEST. 
          AND IN A LOT OF PLACES, THE OLD KIND OF NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THE, THE OLD MAIN STREET OLD DOWNTOWN THAT HAVE THE 40 AND 50 FOOT LOTS WITH THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HOMES ON 'EM FROM A VALUE PER ACRE STANDPOINT, THEY'RE SMOKING THE NEWER STUFF IN THE CITY. 
          SO THERE, THE SMALL STUFF TENDS TO BE MORE AFFORDABLE, BUT IT'S ALSO THE MOST FISCALLY PRODUCTIVE TO THE CITY FROM A PROPERTY TAX STANDPOINT. 
          RIGHT? AND THEN SALES TAX, YOU LEVEL THAT ON TOP. 
          SALES TAX TENDS TO FOLLOW THE SAME TREND OF THE MORE PEOPLE YOU PUT IN AN AREA, THE MORE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY YOU'RE GONNA GENERATE, THE MORE SALES TAX YOU'RE GONNA GENERATE AS WELL. 
          ADDISON'S DOING WELL AND VERY WELL IN TERMS OF, IF I LOOKED AT YOUR, UM, YOUR GENERAL FUND PER ACRE OR GENERAL FUND PER CAPITA, WE CAN LOOK AT IT DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT YOU COMPARE WHAT ADDISON HAS TO OTHER PARTS OF THE METROPLEX, YOU'RE DOING REALLY, REALLY WELL BECAUSE YOU'VE BUILT A MORE URBAN COMPACT PATTERN. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT FOR EVERYBODY, RIGHT? I I THINK SOME OF THE SUBURBAN, MORE SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH ARE STRUGGLING TO, HOW DO THEY PAY FOR ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN IT'S MORE SPREAD OUT? YOU GUYS ARE ON THE OTHER END OF THAT, YOU HAVE A SURPLUS TO PAY FOR STUFF, YOU'VE GOT EXTRA MONEY TO GO INTO QUALITY OF LIFE BECAUSE YOU ARE MORE COMPACT AND YOU'RE MORE DENSE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE, THE SLIDE, RIGHT? EITHER THAT ONE OR RIGHT THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS SUGGESTS THAT WE SHOULD EMINENT DOMAIN THE AIRPORT AND TURN IT ALL INTO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. 
          AND THAT JUST DOES NOT FEEL RIGHT. 
          , . 
          SO I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET THIS DATA. 
          THIS, THIS IS JUST, THIS IS THE PROPERTY OR THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THE AIRPORT DIVIDED BY THE SIZE OF IT. 
          SO, BUT THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO PULL THE AIR. 
          I GET THAT. 
          I GET THAT YOU NEED TO PULL THE AIRPORT OUT. 
          THIS TELLS ME, THIS TELLS ME WE SHOULD TELL THE AIRPORT, GO LAND YOUR PLANE SOMEPLACE ELSE AND REDEVELOP THIS, ALL THIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OR APARTMENTS BECAUSE OF THE VALUE OF THE RE TRUVIA. 
          AND IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE THE VALUE, I HAVE MY ROBERT BARON HAT ON. 
          I'M KICKING THESE PEOPLE OUT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY YOU GET TO HAVE, AND THAT JUST DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, IS SO IS THERE AN ELEMENT MISSING HERE OF ECONOMIC VALUE? ECONOMIC ECONOMIC VALUE ADD TO THE AREA? YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A BIG PIECE MISSING HERE IS MY POINT. 
          AND THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          AND ACTUALLY I WOULD FLIP THAT AND SAY, IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THIS INFORMATION, THIS IS A KEY PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN MISSING FOR PLANNING FOR 20 YEARS AS AN ENGINEER. 
          I TALKED TO SO MANY THAT THAT'S WHY WE STARTED VIRGINITIES. 
          'CAUSE CITIES ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY ARE GOING INSOLVENT 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T PAY FOR THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          JUST CONSIDER ADDISON LUCKY THAT YOU'RE NOT ONE OF THE OTHER 90% OF CITIES THAT ARE STRUGGLING IN OTHER PARTS OF, OF THE, OF THE COUNTRY. 
          SO THIS IS A, JUST LIKE THE, THE DATA THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE DEMOGRAPHIC STUFF 
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IS A DATA POINT. 
          IT'S NOT THE ONLY DATA POINT. 
          UM, THE A THE AIRPORT BRINGS A TON OF VALUE. 
          UM, BUT THE, THE PROPERTY STUFF AND THE NET PER ACRE STUFF IS OFF FOR THE AIRPORT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT HAS IT, IT PAYS FOR ALL OF ITS SERVICES FROM A SEPARATE FUND. 
          UM, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S GENERATING SOME PROPERTY TAX ON TOP OF THAT. 
          SO IT'S GOT ALL OF THE HANGAR FEES AND ALL OF THAT THAT COME WITH IT. 
          IT'S BRINGING IN EMPLOYMENT VALUE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS AT WORK HERE. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO SEE THE DEMOGRAPHIC DATA, YOU HAVE TO SEE THE FISCAL ANALYSIS DATA, YOU HAVE TO SEE THE MARKET REPORT DATA, AND THEN ALL OF THAT'S GONNA FORM A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE. 
          SUE, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN THE BACK? YOU KNOW, ONLY THE ONLY TO SAY THE AIRPORT'S A A DIFFERENT ANIMAL. 
          IT, IT BRINGS A LOT OF INTANGIBLES, BUT ALSO WE OWN IT, RIGHT? SO WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE, THERE IS ALSO THAT, BUT I, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD  RAISE THE AIRPORT AND PUT SOMETHING ELSE ON IT. 
          JUST THROWING THAT CONCEPT OUT. 
           , I'M AT , I KNOW AL UH, THE, I KNOW, BUT THE LAST THING TO GET 30, THAT'S ONLY ONE DATA POINT. 
          THERE'S A LOT MORE TO THE AIRPORT THAN, THAN SIMPLY THAT THE INFORMATION ON THAT CHART. 
          YES, I THINK IF THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTOOD THE ECONOMIC DATA, THEY WOULD NOT BE SO OPPOSED TO APARTMENTS. 
          IF THEY, IF THEY SAW WHAT VALUE, UH, THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES BRING TO THE TOWN AND HOW IT LOWERS THEIR PROPERTY TAX, THEY WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT, FEEL A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT ABOUT THE APARTMENTS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND WE WILL SHOW THE, WE'LL SHOW THE DATA FOR THAT. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT RESIDENTIAL, THE, THE MULTIFAMILY IS THE HIGHEST VALUE PER ACRE OF ANY OF THEM IN THE TOWN BY A, BY A LONG SHOT. 
          UM, BUT YEAH. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL, I WANT TO KEEP US MOVING, BUT YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND JUST ONE COMMENT. 
          I AGREE WITH LIZ, EXCEPT I DON'T AGREE THAT THE OPPOSITION IS THAT LARGE, LOUD DOESN'T MEAN VOL. 
          YOU KNOW, VOLUME ISN'T QUANTITY. 
          SO, UM, I I DON'T THINK THE, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS SUCH A HUGE ISSUE, BUT I AGREE THAT IT ADDS VALUE, DENSITY ADDS VALUE. 
          THE, THE DIALOGUE THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO HAVE IS SO, SO MUCH OF AN APARTMENT CONVERSATION IN A LOT OF PLACES IS DOMINATED ABOUT, WELL, THE HIGHER DENSITY BRINGS MORE COSTS AND MORE BURDEN ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 
          THE VALUE SIDE OF THE CONVERSATION IS NOT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE OF, UH, AND ESPECIALLY A COMMUNITY LIKE ADDISON, I THINK UNDERSTANDS THE VALUE THAT THE RENTERS BRING THEMSELVES, BUT YOU REALLY NEED TO SEE THE VALUE THAT THOSE APARTMENT BRING AND THE, THE HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IS BRINGING TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. 
          LAST THING TO GO THROUGH IS JUST THE CURRENT PLANS. 
          UM, KEN AND STAFF PUT SOME, SOME MORE INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET THAT HAVE SOME EXCERPTS OF, OF SOME OF THE MOST, UH, IMPORTANT PLANS. 
          BUT WHAT I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT HERE IS, IS GO BACK TO 2013 AND THE COMP PLAN THAT WAS DONE THERE. 
          I'M GONNA FORWARD TO THIS SLIDE AND THEN I'LL GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ONE. 
          UM, THAT 2013 PLAN AT THE TIME, I, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED IT WAS VERY KIND OF VISIONARY. 
          UM, IT TOOK A VERY INTERESTING APPROACH AT THE TIME, AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT, THAT I WANT TO TAKE WITH THIS PROCESS OF LOOKING AT, UM, DIFFERENT LAND USES THROUGH A CRITERIA OF LOOKING AT WHAT'S THERE AND IS THIS RELEVANT? DOES IT MAKE SENSE HERE? UM, DO WE WANT TO PRESERVE WHAT'S HERE? DO WE WANT TO ENHANCE IT A LITTLE BIT? OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, REDEVELOPED IN THE, IN THE FUTURE? UM, THE EXCERPT, THE STUFF THAT THAT'S IN THE PACKET THAT YOU ALL HAVE, HAS SOME PIECES OF THE PLAN THAT, THAT HIGHLIGHT THAT IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. 
          BUT THERE WAS A HEAVY EMPHASIS, THERE WAS A TON OF DATA COLLECTED. 
          THERE WAS A HEAVY EMPHASIS ON REDEVELOPMENT BECAUSE ADDISON AT THAT TIME WAS ALREADY STARTING TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO REDEVELOP, WHEREAS A LOT OF OTHER PLACES AROUND NORTH TEXAS WERE GREENFIELD AND JUST GROW, GROW, GROW, GROW, GROW, RIGHT? SO ADDISON WAS STARTING TO THINK ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT BEFORE A LOT OF NORTH TEXAS, YOU KNOW, WAS, UM, ON TOP OF THAT YOU WERE VERY FORWARD THINKING IN THE TYPES OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT YOU WERE BUILDING WITH VITRUVIAN, WITH ADDISON CIRCLE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT, OF LOOKING AT THE KIND OF COMMUNITY THAT ADDISON IS OF THIS HEAVY COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO ADDISON, UM, AND DESIGNING AND BUILDING A PLACE FOR THAT, WHERE NOW YOU SEE THE FRISCO'S AND, AND OTHERS ALL OVER THE METROPLEX AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT ARE TRYING TO COPY MORE OF THAT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE NEWER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY'RE DESIGNING. 
          WHAT ADDISON HAS IS, IS I THINK A STRENGTH IS SOME AUTHENTICITY HERE OF, IT'S, IT'S NOT QUITE THE CRAZY BONKER SCALE OF LIKE A LEGACY CENTER UP IN PLANO WHERE YOU'RE, EVERYBODY'S DRIVING THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO A PARKING GARAGE AND THEN THEY GET OUT AND THEN THEY EXPERIENCE THE MIXED USE STUFF. 
          THIS IS AUTHENTIC. 
          PEOPLE LIVE HERE, THEY WALK TO IT. 
          IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A KABOOM TOWN AND SOME OTHER TYPE OF THINGS WHERE YOU GOT A TON OF PEOPLE DRIVING IN HERE, UH, AND LOOKING FOR, FOR PLACES TO PARK. 
          BUT IT'S, IT'S A SCALE THAT IS VERY UNIQUE TO NORTH TEXAS. 
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UM, AND I THINK YOU WANNA PROTECT THAT TO, UH, TO AN EXTENT. 
          UM, ANOTHER THING THAT CAME OUT OF THIS IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROPERTIES THAT NEED DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          THERE WERE A LOT OF SPECIAL STUDIES THAT WERE RECOMMENDED THAT CAME OUT OF THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS SHOWS MORE OF. 
          OF YOU HAD MIDWAY SOUTH, YOU HAD ADDISON CIRCLE, YOU HAD THE INWOOD, UH, CORRIDOR THERE, THE AIRPORT. 
          THERE WERE AREAS THAT AT THE TIME THAT COMP PLAN COMMITTEE SAID, WE WANT A MORE DETAILED STUDY OF THIS AREA TO LOOK AT WHAT IS RIGHT FOR, FOR THIS. 
          THE TOWN HAS FOLLOWED THROUGH ON THAT. 
          THEY'VE COMPLETED A LOT OF THOSE SPECIAL PLANS. 
          SOME OF THEM ARE AL EFFECTIVELY COMPLETE AT THIS POINT. 
          UM, I THINK SO. 
          UM, THE INWOOD ONE IS ONE THAT, THAT CAME UP FROM ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS IN THE, THE FIRST ROUND OF MEETINGS THAT, THAT WE HAD HERE OF, OF ONE THAT IS, IS AN AREA THAT WE REALLY NEED TO, YOU KNOW, TO EXPLORE. 
          BUT THIS IDEA OF LOOKING AT WHAT'S ON THE GROUND AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANNA PRESERVE IT? DO WE WANT TO ENHANCE IT A LITTLE BIT? OR DO, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT SCRAPING AND REDEVELOPING? UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE A FEW VACANT TRACKS TO FILL IN. 
          THAT'S WHAT OUR, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LAND USE AND WHAT'S THE CAPACITY FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT IS DOES AND DOES IT GO RESIDENTIAL? DOES IT GO COMMERCIAL? DOES IT GO OWNER RENT? WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE AVAILABLE LAND THAT'S LEFT AND WHAT WILL GO THERE. 
          AND WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF DOING IT IN A WAY THAT'S NOT GOING TO DISRUPT THE CORE OF WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, ALREADY ON THE GROUND. 
          UM, AND MAKES ADDISON WHAT IT IS. 
          SO THERE MIGHT BE A FEW PLACES THAT YOU CAN GO PRETTY CRAZY DENSITY AND ADD SOME NEW BUILDINGS, BUT IN A LOT OF PLACES IT'S GONNA BE GENTLE, GENTLE DENSITY, GENTLE IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAKE, YOU KNOW, THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          UM, A LITTLE BIT, UH, A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          BUT I, THAT PROCESS BACK IN 2013 WAS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD ONE. 
          I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR AS, AS WE GO FORWARD, UM, WITH THIS EFFORT. 
          WE, WE DON'T WANNA REDO GOOD WORK. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO TAKE SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THOSE PLANS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE STILL IN THE WORKS, PULL THOSE FORWARD. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE BEEN ASKED THOUGH, WE SAID THIS IN THE FIRST MEETING TOO, WE DON'T WANNA LOOK BACKWARDS TOO MUCH. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THIS PLAN TO BE THINKING ABOUT FOR THE SAME WAY 2013 DID AND, AND THINK FORWARD ABOUT WHAT DO WE WANT ADDISON TO BE IN THE FUTURE. 
          WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT HERE TOO, AND CHALLENGE YOU GUYS TO THINK OUTTA THE BOX OF, I MEAN, I LOVE THE CLIMATE CHANGE CONVERSATION. 
          I THINK THAT'S ONE THAT'S, THAT'S VALID. 
          I JUST HEARD ON THE RADIO DRIVING OVER HERE THAT THERE'S A STUDY THAT JUST CAME OUT THAT SAID TEXAS IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE, THAT THE NUMBER OF 100 DEGREE DAYS IS SUPPOSED TO DOUBLE BETWEEN 2010 AND 2030. 
          WE HAD 55 DAYS THIS YEAR THAT WERE OVER 154 MAYBE, WAS IT? UM, SO WHEN IT'S OVER A HUNDRED, THAT, THAT IMPACTS STUFF, RIGHT? I THINK ANOTHER ONE THAT'S COME UP IN CONVERSATIONS IS THE AIRPORT AND THE ROLE THE AIRPORT'S GONNA PLAY IN MICRO MOBILITY OF SELF-DRIVING CAR OR, UH, I'M SORRY, FLYING CARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THAT LOCAL AIRPORT, YOU'RE GONNA ATTRACT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, PERSON THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN THINKING ABOUT REALLY RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO JUST, I'M NOT A BIG GO PIE IN THE SKY TOO VISIONARY KIND OF PERSON, BUT I THINK ADDISON IS A PLACE WE NEED TO PUSH THE LIMITS A LITTLE BIT THERE ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE AND, AND WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. 
          UM, COUPLE MORE TAKEAWAYS JUST TO GET THROUGH THESE REAL, REAL QUICK. 
          UM, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE IN THE JANUARY CONVERSATION ON THIS. 
          UM, WE'VE ORGANIZED THESE BY EACH OF THE MAIN COMPONENTS OF THE PLAN. 
          UH, LAND USE DEVELOPMENT, CHARACTER REVITALIZATION, AND REINVESTMENT IN PROPERTIES. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HEARING A LOT OF. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE CARE OF, OF THE PLACES THAT, THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT. 
          UM, HIGH QUALITY DESIGN OF THE PUBLIC REALM IN BUILDINGS. 
          IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE ADDISON COMMUNITY. 
          WHAT WE'VE HEARD SO FAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THE STREETSCAPE, THE TREES, THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDINGS, THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          IT'S BEEN VERY WELL DONE IN ADDISON AND, AND PEOPLE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. 
          UM, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS ARE BEING ENCOURAGED AND DESIRED. 
          UM, EVERYBODY HERE, MOST OF THE FOLKS HERE, LIKE THE, THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, EVEN IF THEY'RE IN ONE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN ADDISON, UM, THERE'S BEEN COMMENTS ABOUT THE, THE MIXED USE CHARACTER OF, OF ADDISON AND, AND HOW MUCH THEY LIKE THAT. 
          UM, THE DART SILVER LINE STATION, JUST LIKE I MENTIONED THE AIRPORT, I THINK THE, THE STATION COMING IS GONNA HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, UH, TO ADDISON AS WELL. 
          SOME COMMUNITIES WOULD SEE TRANSIT AS A CHALLENGE. 
          UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER IT AN, AN OPPORTUNITY AS WE THINK ABOUT HOW THE WORKFORCE AND HOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA MOVE AROUND IN THE FUTURE. 
          AS WE, WE WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION EARLIER JUST ABOUT HOW MUCH THE METROPLEX IS GROWING, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO DALLAS-FORT WORTH. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START BEING ABLE TO GET AROUND OTHER WAYS THAN JUST DRIVING. 
          AND SO TO HAVE A TRANSIT STATION AND AN AIRPORT IN A COMMUNITY, THE SIZE OF ADDISON IS GOLDEN. 
          UM, ON THE HOUSING SIDE, UM, MAJOR DESIRE FOR MORE OWNERSHIP HOUSING PRODUCTS, UM, DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT NECESSARILY 
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HAS TO BE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED. 
          IT'S SO CONDO, FLATS, TOWN HOMES, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO TO THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT DEFINITELY MORE INTEREST IN GROWING THE OWNERSHIP SIDE. 
          TOWN HOMES, SMALL LOT HOUSING IS INTEREST, UH, IS IS AN INTEREST. 
          UM, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF VACANT COMMERCIAL. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SIGNIFICANT, BUT THERE, THERE'S SOME VACANT COMMERCIAL LAND AND SOME AGING OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT, RIGHT? UM, WITH COVID, WITH SOME OF THE REMOTE WORK TRENDS, OFFICE BUILDINGS ARE CHANGING, UM, HOW MUCH DEMAND THERE IS FOR 'EM, WHAT'S GONNA GO IN 'EM, UH, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S, THAT'S AN AREA THAT WAS PUT ON OUR RADAR VERY EARLY THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND EXPLORE MORE. 
          UM, AND THEN SENIOR LIBERAL HOUSING, I THINK THE SENIOR HOUSING WAS BROUGHT UP, UM, EARLIER, AND THAT'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER AREA THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. 
          ON THE MOBILITY SIDE. 
          I TALKED ABOUT THE, THE DART LINE. 
          UM, DNT IS A HUGE ASSET FOR Y'ALL. 
          UM, IT BRI A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT COME INTO ADDISON GET HERE FROM THE TOLLWAY. 
          IT'S ALSO A CHALLENGE 'CAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S COME UP. 
          IT'S A HUGE BARRIER TO EAST-WEST CONNECTIVITY IN ADDISON. 
          UM, SO TALKING ABOUT HOW WE GET FOLKS FROM ONE SIDE OF ADDISON TO THE OTHER, UM, TRAIL CONNECTIVITY, UM, AGAIN, ALL ACROSS THE TOWN, THIS IS A HUGE PRIORITY. 
          THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN WAS GREAT. 
          THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EMPHASIS AND SUPPORT FOR IMPLEMENTING THAT PLAN. 
          UM, BUT DIGGING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE TO, UM, THE CYCLING KIND, THE, UH, THE CYCLING ASPECT, THE CITYWIDE SHUTTLE SERVICE OR, OR, YOU KNOW, SOME MORE PUBLIC TRANSIT OPTIONS. 
          AGAIN, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS FOR, FOR FOLKS TO MOVE AROUND ADDISON, UM, AND GET TO AND FROM ADDISON THAT DON'T, UM, ALL INVOLVE THE CAR BECAUSE PART OF, IF YOU WANT TO KIND OF TAKE, UH, SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND SOME OF THE PARTS OF ADDISON TO THE NEXT LEVEL IN TERMS OF THAT MIXED USE AND PEDESTRIAN SCALE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO START TO THINK ABOUT WHICH PLACES DO WE WANNA START TO PRIORITIZE MORE OF THAT PUBLIC REALM TOWARDS PEOPLE VERSUS A ANOTHER LANE FOR CARS. 
          UM, SO I'M NOT SAYING WE GO, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE WHOLE TOWN AND START DROPPING LANES EVERYWHERE, BUT THERE'S A FEW PLACES WHERE YOU COULD SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS ACTUALLY, IF WE REALLY EMPHASIZE PEDESTRIANS FIRST, UM, YOU COULD MAKE IT SAFER AND YOU COULD ACTUALLY MAKE THE, THE ENVIRONMENT, THE CONTEXT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, EVEN BETTER. 
          UM, COUPLE OF OF OTHER TAKEAWAYS. 
          THE, THE NEW PLAN'S GONNA BE BUILT ON THE REDEVELOPMENT PHILOSOPHY STARTED WITH 2013. 
          UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT CONTEXT FOR DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, DIFFERENT PROPERTIES. 
          UM, WE'VE GOTTA THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THESE. 
          SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE A LOOK ACROSS THE WHOLE TOWN AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE DIFFERENT LAND USES OR SOMETHING. 
          IT'S GOTTA BE MORE, UM, PARCEL IN NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIFIC. 
          SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT AT PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOODS AND PROPERTIES WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS OR WITHIN AREAS OF WHAT, UH, WHAT NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED THE WAY THAT IT IS, WHAT NEEDS TO BE ENHANCED A LITTLE BIT THROUGH INCREMENTAL DEVELOPMENT AND INFILL. 
          UM, OR WHAT ARE AREAS THAT NEED TO EITHER VACANT AREAS OR SOME AREAS THAT MAYBE NEED TO BE SCRAPED AND REDEVELOPED. 
          UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, THERE'S, YOU HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY HERE WITH BIG EMPLOYERS, BIGGER DEVELOPERS, UM, BUT HOW DO WE BALANCE THAT A LITTLE BIT WITH MORE OF THE SMALL DEVELOPMENT ENTREPRENEURIAL CULTURE, UM, AS WELL. 
          AND THEN INWOOD CORRIDOR IS ONE THAT I'LL MENTION HERE ON THAT, THAT LAST BULLET OF WHEN WE THINK ABOUT MORE INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENT OF HOW DO WE DO THINGS AT A SMALLER SCALE AND A LITTLE MORE INCREMENTAL IN TERMS OF JUST COMING IN AND, AND DEVELOPING A BIG AREA ALL AT ONCE. 
          UM, INWOOD IS AN AREA WHERE YOU COULD COME IN AND, AND REDEVELOP, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS OR A COUPLE OF BUILDINGS AT A TIME BECAUSE THE SCALE FOR THAT, WITH ALL OF THE AIRPORT RESTRICTIONS AND OTHER THINGS THERE IS GONNA LIMIT, UM, A LOT OF WHAT YOU CAN DO. 
          UH, THE MARKET REPORT I MENTIONED, THESE ARE THE, UH, THESE ARE THE PEER COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          UM, THERE'S A FEW OF OUR CPA FOLKS THAT GAVE US SOME FEEDBACK ON THIS AS AS WELL. 
          UM, HERE LOCALLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LEGACY BUSINESS AREA, UM, IN PLANO, WE'RE LOOKING AT LAS COLINAS, WE'RE LOOKING AT PRESTON CENTER, UM, AT THE STATE LEVEL. 
          WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LOOK OVER AT WEST SEVENTH OVER IN FORT WORTH. 
          UM, AND A COUPLE AREAS IN AUSTIN AND THEN NATIONALLY, THE, THE ONE THAT WE SETTLED ON IS BUCKHEAD, UM, IN ATLANTA. 
          THAT'S GONNA GIVE US A PRETTY GOOD CROSS SECTION OF PLACES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO ADDISON AT SOME DIFFERENT SCALES. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE, UH, THE CITY HAS, I THINK, NINE OR 10 COMMUNITIES THAT, THAT, UH, THE TOWN USES FOR TYPICAL KIND OF BASELINE BENCHMARKING WITH OTHER PEER COMMUNITIES AROUND US. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA PULL ALL THAT DEMOGRAPHIC DATA FOR THREE OR FOUR, UH, MAYBE FIVE OF THOSE, UH, PEER COMMUNITIES HERE IN NORTH TEXAS AS WELL. 
          [4.  Present and discuss future community engagement opportunities for the Comprehensive Plan Advisory Committee (CPAC).]
UM, LOOKING FORWARD, WE TALKED A LOT AT THE START OF THIS ABOUT SURVEY TOO. 
          UM, IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT SURVEY. 
          UM, IT DOES GET INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME STARTS TO DIG INTO SOME OF THESE COMPONENTS OF THE PLAN. 
          UM, IT TAKES 20 TO 30 MINUTES TO DO, YOU CAN SAVE IT. 
          UM, WE'VE GOTTEN THAT QUESTION OF, IT'S A LONG SURVEY. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IT ALL AT ONCE. 
          YOU CAN SAVE YOUR PROGRESS. 
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UM, WE NEED TO UPDATE THIS HERE, BUT WE WERE GONNA RUN IT THROUGH THE END OF DECEMBER. 
          WE'LL RUN IT THROUGH THE, THE END OF JANUARY. 
          UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE IN TRIP TWO IN, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF JANUARY. 
          I THINK IT'S JANUARY 21ST, 22ND, SOMEWHERE IN THERE. 
          UH, WHEN WE HAVE TRIP TWO, UM, WE'VE GOT SOME IN-PERSON EXERCISES WITH TRIP TWO. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE AT COFFEE SHOPS, RESTAURANTS. 
          WE'VE GOT SOME HAPPY HOURS IN THERE, UM, TO AGAIN, TRY TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GONNA DO SOME MEETING IN THE BOX STUFF, WHICH I, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF HERE. 
          UM, WE'LL TALK, I, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IS SEND OUT A, THE PACKET TO YOU ALL, UM, MAYBE TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE JANUARY MEETING. 
          BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS, IS A, UM, A SERIES OF QUESTIONS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO SURVEY TWO, UM, THAT ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY COULD START A, A MEETING. 
          YOU BASICALLY PULL UP THE, UM, YOU PULL UP THE WEBSITE, YOU ENTER IN YOUR NAME AS A FACILITATOR, AND THEN YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE QUESTIONS AND, AND ENTER IN YOUR, UM, YOUR ANSWERS. 
          UM, ONE CHANGE FROM THIS SLIDE THAT, THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS WITH THE, UM, WITH THIS TRIP THE EVENING OF THE 24TH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH COUNCIL ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          AND THEN ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 25TH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MEETING WITH YOU ALL FROM SIX TO SEVEN. 
          AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE COMMUNITY MEETING AFTER THAT. 
          THAT'S, WE GOTTA RUN THAT AND, AND THROUGH STAFF AND GET IT, UM, CONFIRMED. 
          BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME WITH CPAC TO REVISIT SOME OF THIS DEMOGRAPHIC, UH, CONVERSATIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE, THE COMMUNITY MEETING. 
          UM, SO ON THE, ON THE MEETING IN THE BOX, UM, VERY FLEXIBLE. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER ALL OF THE QUESTIONS. 
          YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ONE TOPIC. 
          UH, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ALL OF THEM. 
          THEY'RE JUST INTENDED. 
          IT'S A WAY FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO GO FACILITATE A CONVERSATION AND GET MORE INPUT. 
          I WOULD DEFINITELY CHALLENGE AND ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU ALL TO GO DO AT LEAST ONE OF THESE. 
          DO IT WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS, DO IT WITH YOUR FRIENDS, DO IT WITH SOMEBODY, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR COWORKERS, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO, HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO THAT. 
          BUT GRAB, YOU KNOW, GRAB 6, 8, 10 PEOPLE, UM, AND SIT DOWN FOR AN HOUR AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS WE HAVE. 
          THE WEBSITE WILL BE ABLE TO CAPTURE ALL THAT ENDPOINT, UH, THAT INPUT AND FEED IT BACK TO US, UM, AS WELL. 
          UM, THE WEBSITE WILL BE MEET DOT ADVANCE ADDISON.COM, UM, BRISA AND THE CIVIC BRAND FOLKS ARE BUILDING THAT SITE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, AND IT'S VERY EASY. 
          THIS IS THE FRONT PAGE. 
          GET IN THERE, ENTER YOUR NAME, YOUR EMAIL, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE YOU'RE MEETING THE DATE OF THE MEETING. 
          AND THEN IT'S JUST GOT QUESTIONS IN A BOX. 
          YOU CAN TYPE IN THE ANSWERS. 
          THERE'S ALSO, IF YOU WANNA DO PAPER AND TAKE NOTES, PAPER, YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE OFFLINE VERSION AND TAKE NOTES BY HAND. 
          IF YOU TAKE NOTES BY HAND, JUST PLEASE TRY TO MAKE IT WHERE WE CAN READ IT. 
          UM, COUPLE OF OTHER TOOLS THAT ARE COMING TO THE WEBSITE SOON. 
          WE, WE JUST TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOW THE, THE CONTEXT FOR GOING FORWARD IS GONNA BE VERY SPECIFIC TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND LOCATIONS. 
          UM, AN IDEAS WALL IS COMING. 
          SO THIS IS AN AREA WHERE SOMEBODY CAN WRITE IT, THEY CAN PICK A TOPIC, THEY CAN PUT AN IDEA ABOUT MOBILITY, PARKS, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE AIRPORT, WHATEVER THEY WANT. 
          THEY CAN PUT COMMENTS UP THERE AND FOLKS CAN GO IN AND, AND ADD A COMMENT TO A COMMENT OR LIKE IT AND VOTE IT UP OR DOWN. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF COOL THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH THAT. 
          AND THEN THE MAPPING TOOL IS REALLY, REALLY POWERFUL. 
          YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE IN THE TOWN, YOU CAN DROP A PIN ON THE MAP. 
          IT COULD BE AN INTERSECTION THAT STINKS. 
          IT COULD BE A PARK THAT YOU LOVE. 
          IT COULD BE A BUILDING THAT YOU GO TO A LOT. 
          BUT YOU CAN DROP A PIN ON A SPECIFIC LOCATION AND PUT A COMMENT WITH IT. 
          SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD WAY FOR US TO START TO CAPTURE FEEDBACK OF WHAT DO YOU LOVE ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO IMPROVE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? WHAT PLACES DO YOU GO VISIT A LOT? THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN USE THAT, THAT MAPPING TOOL. 
          SO THAT'S GONNA ROLL OUT IN FEBRUARY AFTER THE NEXT PUBLIC MEETING. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU GUYS KNOW, UM, JUST CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE, WE'RE GETTING CONTINUAL SIGNUPS TO THE NEWSLETTER. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT ONE OR TWO POSTS A A MONTH THAT GO OUT TO THE PROJECT SPECIFIC EMAIL. 
          UH, THE TOWN HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF SENDING OUT UPDATES THROUGH THE, THE TOWN EMAIL, UM, AS WELL. 
          UH, BUT WE'VE GONE, WE'VE GONE LONG. 
          THIS WAS A GREAT DISCUSSION. 
          UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK, JUST GIVE, JUST KIND OF OPEN COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UH, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND, AND YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT FULL PACKET WITH HOPEFULLY A LOT OF YOUR QUESTIONS ADDRESSED, UM, IN JANUARY BEFORE, UH, BEFORE THE THE NEXT MEETING. 
          ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? AL AL NUMBER TWO. 
          THANK YOU, AL. 
          ANGEL, ARE WE AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDED IN THIS EMAIL OR, OR DO WE NEED TO SEND IT IN FOR US IF WE WANNA BE RECEIVING THOSE PROJECT NEWSLETTER LETTERS IS, IF EVERYBODY JUST WANTS TO BE AUTOMATICALLY SUBSCRIBED TO IT, WE CAN AUTOMATICALLY ADD. 
          I WOULD SUGGEST THAT. 
          HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO DO IT. 
          WE JUST ALWAYS, ANYBODY 
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WITH EMAILS, YOU ALWAYS WANNA RESPECT FOLKS TOO. 
          WE DON'T WANNA ADD ANOTHER EMAIL THAT SOMEBODY DON'T, DOESN'T WANT. 
          BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A PRETTY GOOD THING FOR Y'ALL TO GET 'EM SO WE CAN JUST, WE'LL, ANYBODY THAT'S NOT ON IT ALREADY, WE'LL, WE'LL ADD YOU TO IT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AWESOME. 
          THIS, UM, I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK, APPRE, PLEASE FEEL FREE EVERY, EVERY TIME WE HAVE ONE OF THESE MEETINGS, CHALLENGE WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          UM, AGAIN, I, I'LL JUST WRAP WITH THAT. 
          YOU GUYS KNOW ADDISON BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE. 
          WE CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS, WE CAN SHOW SOME DATA. 
          UM, BUT I'M, I'M EXCITED TO WORK WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU GUYS AND, AND HOPE AT THE END OF THIS YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN HEARD AND UM, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN PART OF THE PROCESS OF, OF BUILDING THIS PLAN. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME ON A THURSDAY EVENING AND AT LEAST WE'RE NOT COMPETING WITH THE RANGERS PLAYOFF GAME THIS TIME. 
          UM, BEFORE EVERYONE LEAVES, YEAH, JADE'S GOT SOME WRAP UP STUFF REAL QUICK. 
          GOT SOME CONCLUDING POINTS. 
          I'LL MAKE IT VERY BRIEF. 
          FIVE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND. 
          UM, WE DID GET A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY FOR THAT FIRST FOR THE UM, TOUR. 
          SO IF YOU WANNA MARK YOUR CALENDARS, I WILL SEND AN INVITE, BUT IT'S GONNA BE JANUARY 19TH FROM 9:00 AM TO 1:00 PM IT'S A FRIDAY. 
          UM, WE ARE PLANNING TRIP TWO, WHICH WAS MENTIONED THOUGH, JANUARY 23RD THROUGH THE 25TH. 
          QUITE A FEW OUTREACH OPPORTUNITIES THERE. 
          YOU WILL BE INVITED TO SEVERAL OF THOSE. 
          ONE OF WHICH I'M IN SEARCH OF STILL IS AN OFFICE HAPPY HOUR LOCATION. 
          SO IF ANY OF YOU, ANY OF YOU ARE WILLING TO OFFER UP YOUR SPACES FOR THAT, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW SO WE CAN GET THAT BOOKED FOR TUESDAY, JANUARY 23RD FROM FOUR 30 TO FIVE 30, WHICH I WILL SEND VIA EMAIL. 
          UM, ON YOUR TABLES YOU ALSO HAVE SURVEY TWO PROMOTION CARDS. 
          SO PLEASE TAKE SOME OF THOSE AND SHARE THEM WITH YOUR NETWORKS. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH OUTREACH AS POSSIBLE ON THAT. 
          AND THE POLOS IN THE BACK ARE YOURS TO TAKE HOME. 
          SO IF WE ARE DOING OUTREACH AS A PROJECT TEAM, PLEASE UH, FEEL FREE TO WEAR THOSE IN YOUR NAME TAGS WHEN WE ARE OUT TOGETHER. 
          UM, TAKE 'EM HOME AND KEEP 'EM THERE. 
          UM, AND ALSO LASTLY, IF YOU DIDN'T SIGN IN WHEN YOU CAME IN, THE SIGN IN SHEET IS IN THE BACK. 
          IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND JUST FILLING THAT OUT. 
          THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
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* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.