* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] , [ Call Meeting to Order] UH, THIS IS THE WORK SESSION ASSOCIATED WITH THE OCTOBER 17TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. UM, I WILL NOW CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. UH, [1. Status update on recent Planning and Zoning Commission cases and planning policy items.] I GUESS FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS, UH, THE STATUS UPDATE ON RECENT, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CASES. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. KEN SCHMIDT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THE TOWN. SO, UM, THERE WERE TWO CASES THAT WENT FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL FROM YOUR LAST MEETING THAT WAS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR, UH, THE ALLEY, A RESTAURANT CONCEPT, UM, AT, UH, THE FORMER PETE DUELING PIANO SPACE THAT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL. AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM WAS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR CHICK-FIL-A, UM, AT THE, ON THE, UH, WESTERN END OF TOWN OFF OF, UH, BELTLINE. UH, SO THAT WAS ALSO APPROVED BY, UH, UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THE COUNCIL. AND THEN ONE THING I WOULD HIGHLIGHT OUTSIDE OF THAT, UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, NEW LEGAL COUNSEL, UM, NOT NEW AS IN OUR LAW FIRM, BUT, UH, A NEW, UH, STAFF MEMBER FROM OUR LAW FIRM, UH, SERVING, UH, PERMANENTLY AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION COUNSEL. SO I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME, UH, MS. SARAH ROSS, UH, TO SERVICE FOR THE COMMISSION. ALRIGHT, WELCOME SARAH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU KEN FOR THOSE UPDATES. UM, [2. Discussion regarding items on the agenda for the October 17, 2023 Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting: September 19, 2023 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes Replat approval request for Village on the Parkway (Case R2023-07) Special Use Permit request for Home2 Suites (Case 1892-SUP/4875 Belt Line Road) Special Use Permit request for the Radisson (Case 1893-SUP/4960 Arapaho Road) Special Use Permit request for the Montessori Institute of North Texas (Case 1897-SUP/4006 Belt Line Road, Suite 100) Planned Development Amendment for 16675 Addison Road (Case 1900-Z/16675 Addison Road)] THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IN THE WORK SESSION IS, UH, THE DISCUSSIONS OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA ITEMS. UM, THE FIRST ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 19TH MEETING. THOSE WERE CIRCULATED. UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES OR EDITS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE MADE TO THOSE? OKAY. AND THE NEXT ITEM IS THE REPL APPROVAL REQUEST FOR VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY. UH, YES, LESLIE KNIGHT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. UH, THE REPL REQUEST FOR VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, UH, CAME BEFORE YOU LAST MONTH AND YOU APPROVED, SORRY, JUST ONE MOMENT. GOT IT. GO AHEAD. SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, THE RE REPL CAME BEFORE YOU LAST MONTH AND YOU ALL APPROVED A 30 DAY EXTENSION, WHICH BROUGHT IT BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. THEY HAD, UH, A FEW ADDITIONAL ITEMS THEY HAD TO WORK OUT WITH THEIR CIVIL REVIEW. UM, THEY HAVE RESOLVED, THERE WEREN'T ANY ISSUES. THERE WAS JUST, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THAT NEEDED TO GET DONE. AND SO THEY HAVE, UH, COMPLETED ALL OF THAT AND IT'S COME BACK BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION. UM, ALL OF THIS REPL IS DOING IS ABANDONING AND RELOCATING A UTILITY AND FIRE LANE EASEMENT ON THE SITE FOR THE BLOCK 900. UM, PROJECT FOR THE, THE THREE STORY OFFICE, UH, RETAIL BUILDING. UH, THERE ARE NO, UM, SUBDIVISION OF LAND OR, UM, MODIFICATION OF THE PROPERTY LINES WITH THIS REPL. OKAY. AND THEN BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS ARE GONNA BE IN THE CONSENT AGENDA, JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS. SO IF THERE IS SOMETHING YOU WANNA DISCUSS ON THE MINUTES OF THE REPL, WE CAN PULL IT OUT DURING THE MEETING. THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE HOME TWO SUITES. YES. THIS ITEM IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO AMEND THE, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE HOME TWO SUITES. UH, THIS AMENDMENT IS SPECIFICALLY TO UPDATE THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS. UH, SO THE PLAN, UH, FOR, OR THE REQUEST FOR FROM HOME TWO SUITES IS TO ADD THREE, UM, STEEL CANTILEVER SHADE STRUCTURES ON THEIR EXISTING POOL PATIO. SO THERE ARE THREE SEPARATE STRUCTURES. TWO OF THEM ARE 108 UH, SQUARE FEET, AND THE THIRD IS 192 SQUARE FEET. ONCE AGAIN, THESE ARE ON THE EXISTING, UM, PATIO FOR THE POOL, THE OUTDOOR POOL. THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING TO MODIFY THE PRIMARY BUILDING OR PARKING, LANDSCAPING, ET CETERA. THEY'LL BE DIRECTLY OVER EXISTING IMPERMEABLE SURFACE. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE HOME? TWO SUITES CASE? IS THIS JUST BECAUSE IT'S A ? CORRECT. SO IT'S CLEANED UP SO THAT, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. UH, CURRENTLY WITH OUR PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICTS, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR ADMINISTRATIVE AMENDMENTS THAT I CAN APPROVE AS THE DIRECTOR, UM, AN APPROPRIATE CONSIDERATION AND SIMILAR CONSIDERATIONS SHOULD APPLY TO SPECIAL USE PERMITS. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THE U D C. UH, ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE HOME? TWO SUITES ITEM. ALRIGHT, THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS THE, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE RADISSON. [00:05:01] THIS REQUEST IS, UM, DUE TO A UPDATE TO THE HOTEL FROM A RADISON TO A HAMPTON BY HILTON PROPERTY. SO THEY ARE PROPOSING, ONCE AGAIN UPDATES TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS. THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING MODIFICATIONS TO THE LAND USE. IT WILL REMAIN A HOTEL, UH, WITH A RESTAURANT AND THE SALE OF ALCOHOL AS WELL. UM, BUT THEY WILL BE MODIFYING AND RENOVATING THE FIRST FLOOR, SPECIFICALLY THE LOBBY AND, UM, GENERAL KIND OF PUBLIC CUSTOMER AREAS. SO THE FITNESS CENTER, UM, THE RESTAURANT, THE BAR AS I MENTIONED, THE LOBBY. AND THEN THEY WILL ALSO BE DOING A, UH, EXTERIOR RENOVATION OF THE FACADE, PRIMARILY REPLACING SOME OF THE DATED BUILDING MATERIALS WITH NEWER UPDATED BUILDING MATERIALS. UM, REPLACING THE PORT CHE ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AS WELL AS, UM, ADDING SOME WINDOWS TO GIVE IT A MORE, UM, CONTEMPORARY STOREFRONT AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU LESLIE. UM, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS ON REMODELING THE ROOF? SO THEY ARE DOING SOME KIND OF FRESHENING UP AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT INCLUDE SOME FURNITURE UPDATES AND SOME PAINT. THEY AREN'T DOING ANY, UM, RENOVATIONS OR WORK THAT WOULD REQUIRE ANY KIND OF BUILDING PERMIT OR REMOVAL OR, UM, MODIFICATION OF WALLS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, UH, NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR THE MONTESSORI INSTITUTE OF NORTH TEXAS. THIS REQUEST IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AT AN EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING SITE AT UH, 40 0 6 BELTLINE ROAD. UH, SO THIS SUITE, UH, SUITE 100 FOR THIS REQUEST IS IN THE, UM, THERE'S THREE OFFICE BUILDINGS ARE TWO STORIES APPROXIMATELY 200,000 SQUARE FEET ON THE ENTIRE SITE ACROSS ALL THREE BUILDINGS. THIS REQUEST IS FOR SUITE 100, WHICH IS ACTUALLY IN THE THIRD BUILDING FOR THE SOUTH CLOSEST TO BELTWAY. UM, IT IS A SCHOOL OR TRAINING CENTER FOR MONTESSORI TEACHERS. THERE WILL BE NO CHILDREN, UM, OR CHILD AGE STUDENTS ON THIS SITE. IT WILL ONLY BE FOR TEACHERS. THEY OFFER, UM, TRAINING PROGRAMS CERTIFICATION AS WELL AS PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY FOR, UH, MONTESSORI TEACHERS. THEY'RE TAKING OVER ABOUT 15,000 SQUARE FEET. UM, THEY HAVE A CLASSROOM SPACE KIND OF MOCK CLASSROOM SPACE AS WELL AS OFFICES BREAK ROOMS, UM, LOUNGES FOR, UM, BOTH THEIR TEACHERS AND THE STUDENTS OR THE, THE ADULT LEARNERS, SORRY, THAT GETS COM IT GETS CONFUSING, UM, IN THAT, IN THAT CONTEXT. BUT ONCE AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT PRO PROPOSING ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE, THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. UM, IT'S JUST FINISHING OUT THE SPACE FOR THEIR NEEDS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. LESLIE, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? I HAVE ONE. UM, SO IT DOESN'T MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY LOST A FEW TO MAKE THE ENTRANCE INTO THE TEXAS POWER AND LIGHT RIGHT AWAY PARKING. CORRECT. SO IS THERE, IS THERE ANY LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD CALL THAT, LIKE A CROSS PARKING OR SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THIS BUILDING AND THEN THAT RIGHT OF WAY? YEAH, SO I, THAT WAS COMPLETED SOMETIME PRIOR TO MINE AND, AND KEN'S TIME WITH THE TOWN, I LOOKED AND COULD NOT FIND ANY, UM, SPECIFIC AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO PARCELS. THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE PARCELS AND GENERALLY, UM, IN ADDISON WE DON'T ALLOW OFFSITE PARKING, SO PARKING MUST BE CONTAINED ON SITE. UH, A FEW THINGS I WILL ADD ABOUT THAT, THAT PARKING AREA, WHICH IS WITHIN THE, THE POWER AND LIGHT RIGHT OF WAY ONLY GETS ACCESS FROM THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY. IT DOESN'T GET ACCESS FROM BELTWAY, IT DOES NOT GET ACCESS FROM BELTLINE OR THE, UM, PROPERTIES WHICH ARE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE ON THE, THE FAR WEST SIDE. SO THAT LEADS ME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IF THERE WAS, UM, A SHORTAGE OF PARKING ON THIS SITE, THE OVERFLOW PARKING WOULD GO IN THAT AREA. I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT SINCE UH, THE PARKING SPACES WERE ALLOWED TO BE CONSTRUCTED THERE, THEY ARE PROBABLY ALLOWED TO BE USED. I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT UM, TEXAS POWER AND LIGHT IS ENFORCING PARKING FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT MAYBE MAY PARK THERE. MY POINT, [00:10:01] AND I WILL ADD ONE OTHER COMMENT ON THAT THERE, WHEN THE SITE WAS DEVELOPED IN THE 1980S, THERE WAS THE, I GUESS THE HANDICAPPED PARKING AT THAT TIME IS NOT UP TO CODE. THEY HAVE OVER TIME BROUGHT IT INTO CODE FOR A D A PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND THEY DID LOSE QUITE A FEW PARKING SPACES FOR THAT AS WELL. AND THAT IS, UM, IN THIS INSTANCE FAVORABLE FOR STAFF BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED A, ANY SORT OF PARKING SHORTAGES OR PARKING ISSUES ON THAT SITE. UH, SO WE'D PREFER THERE WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE PARKING AVAILABLE. BUT YOUR NUMBERS DO INCLUDE THE GARAGE, RIGHT? CORRECT. THE GARAGE IS ON BOTH OF THE BUILDING. YEP. SO THERE'S ABOUT 85, 84 85 PARKING SPACES WITHIN THAT ARE CONSIDERED COVERED IN THE GARAGES. SO, UM, APPROXIMATELY 45 IN WHAT IS THE MIDDLE BUILDING AND 44 IN THE SOUTHERNMOST BUILDING THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL, UH, 500 AND I THINK 20 SOMETHING. I'LL GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBER THAT'S SURFACE PARKING. AND THEN THERE'S ACTUALLY LIKE A CARPORT STRUCTURE THAT COVERS FIVE SPACES THAT IS BEHIND THE, UM, THE FIRST BUILDING IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO BELTLINE WHERE THE RESTAURANTS ARE. SO I KNOW IT DOESN'T MATTER MUCH, BUT I I'M JUST CURIOUS, DOES THE TOWN HAVE A PARKING AGREEMENT WITH, WITH THAT RIGHT AWAY? 'CAUSE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE WILL PARK THERE FOR THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AND THE TRAILS. YEAH, I DID UM, SOME FAIRLY EXTENSIVE RESEARCH AND I COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING. UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO FIND AN ANSWER ON. 'CAUSE I THINK IT IS, IS JUST GOOD KNOWLEDGE FOR US AS STAFF. UM, BUT IT MIGHT BE TRYING TO TO CONTACT SOME PREVIOUS, UM, INDIVIDUALS WHO WORKED WITH THE TOWN WHO MAY HAVE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THAT TO TRY TO FIND OUT THE STORY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT AGENDA ITEM, THE FINAL AGENDA ITEM IS THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT FOR, UM, 16,675 ADDISON ROAD. YES. THIS FINAL ITEM IS A PD AMENDMENT THAT, UH, IS FOR A EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU ALL APPROVED. UM, I WANNA SAY BACK IN JULY TIMEFRAME, UH, THIS IS THE REDEVELOPMENT AND REUSE OF THE EXISTING CALL CENTER BUILDING AT 16, UH, 6 7 5 ADDISON ROAD THAT'S AT THE, UH, CORNER OF ADDISON ROAD AND EXCEL PARKWAY. SO THE, AT THE TIME, UH, IT THAT THE CURRENT ZONING WAS APPROVED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, IT WAS ENVISIONED THAT THIS WOULD BE DEVELOPED IN TWO PHASES. SO THAT FIRST, UM, ZONING RECOMMENDATION WAS THESE, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS WELL AS DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR PHASE ONE AND THEN A CONCEPT PLAN FOR PHASE TWO. UH, WELL THAT PROCESS HAS ACCELERATED MUCH, MUCH MORE QUICKLY THAN THEY ANTICIPATED. SO THEY ARE BACK BEFORE YOU FOR, UM, WHAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL FOR PHASE TWO, UH, WITH THIS REQUEST? THEY'RE ALSO ASKING A MINOR, UH, MODIFICATION TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND WHAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE. UM, THE INITIAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS SPECIFIED THAT ON PHASE TWO, THE MAXIMUM TENANT AREA COULD NOT EXCEED 50,000 SQUARE FEET. SO, UH, AT THE TIME THE BUILDING, UH, ON THE CONCEPT PLAN WAS APPROXIMATELY 98,000 SQUARE FEET. SO IT WAS ENVISIONED ESSENTIALLY THAT THERE WOULD BE NO LESS THAN TWO TENANTS IN THAT BUILDING. WELL, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT HAS COME BACK BEFORE YOU IS REQUESTING A BUILDING THAT IS, UM, A HUNDRED THOUSAND 990 SQUARE FEET. SO WE ARE INCREASING THE MAXIMUM TENANT SIZE TO 50,495. SO THAT IS THE ONLY CHANGE ON THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. IS THAT 449, UM, SQUARE FOOT INCREASE TO THE MAXIMUM TENANT OR YES, MAXIMUM TENANT SQUARE FOOTAGE. SORRY IF I MADE THAT MORE CONFUSING THAN IT NEEDED TO BE. , UH, I, I ACTUALLY, THERE'S ONE OTHER SLIGHT CHANGE IS, THE OTHER THING THAT WAS SPECIFIED FOR PHASE TWO WAS THAT THERE BE DOORS THAT OPEN ON OR INTO A INTERIOR LOBBY OR, UM, OFFICE SPACE ON THE NORTH FACADE, AND THEY ARE PROPOSING WINDOWS WITH THE DOOR IMMEDIATELY AROUND THE CORNER. SO IT'S TECHNICALLY ON THE, UM, WEST FACADE. SO THEY, THAT HAS BEEN UPDATED AND, OR EXCUSE ME, AMENDED TO READ THAT IT COULD BE DOORS OR WINDOWS THAT HAVE ACCESS OR VISIBILITY INTO AN OFFICE OR, UM, UM, LOBBY SPACE. THE OTHER LARGELY THE REMAINDER OF THE, UM, CONCEPT PLAN AND THE REMAINDER OF THE DEVELOPMENT [00:15:01] STANDARDS HAVE BEEN MET FOR THIS SITE. UM, IT LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SAW WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN WITH KIND OF THE, THE SERVICE AREA INTERIOR TO BOTH BUILDINGS. UH, IT WILL BE SCREENED FROM EXCEL PARKWAY WITH A MASONRY WALL AS WELL AS ENHANCED LANDSCAPING. AND UH, I WILL ALSO ADD THAT AT THIS TIME THERE ARE NO TENANTS. THIS IS BEING DEVELOPED AS SPECULATIVE, UM, OFFICE WAREHOUSE SPACE. AND SO WE HAVE, UM, WE WILL LIKELY SEE, UM, MORE TO COME WITH THIS SITE AS FAR AS WHAT THE USES WILL ENTAIL. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, LESLIE? ON THE 13 LOADING DOCK DOORS, DID YOU SAY THOSE ARE INTERIOR? SO THE, UM, SO THERE ARE THE, THERE'S THE EXISTING OFFICE CALL CENTER THAT HAS, IS GOING TO HAVE 10 DOCK DOORS THAT ARE FACING TO THE EAST. AND THEN THE SECOND, EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU. IT WAS ON THE EAST FACADE FACING TOWARDS THE WEST. AND THEN THE SECOND BUILDING, WHICH IS PHASE TWO, WILL HAVE THE DOCK DOORS THAT ARE, UM, ESSENTIALLY MIRRORED. SO THERE'LL BE, UH, FACING TOWARDS THE EAST. AND SO IT'LL KIND OF, UM, CREATE A TRUCK COURT, IF YOU WILL, IN THE CENTER. SO NEITHER SET FACE EITHER XL OR OR ADDISON ROAD, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND I, I HAVE TO ASK, SO HAVE WE REVIEWED THE SITE COMPARED IT TO WHAT THEY'RE BUILDING? I MEAN, HAVE WE SAVED AS MANY TREES AS WE CAN? SO THAT IS A CHALLENGING TOPIC ON THIS SITE. SO WE ARE GOING FROM A CALL CENTER, WHICH HAD A VERY LARGE PARKING LOT AND, UM, NOT A TON, BUT MANY TREE ISLANDS TO A MUCH HIGHER DENSITY. SO WE ARE LOSING A LOT OF SURFACE ON SITE. UM, SO THEY ARE MITIGATING QUITE A BIT ON SITE, BUT THEY'RE ALL, ALL IN ALL THEY'RE GONNA END UP PAYING, UM, APPROXIMATELY 36,000 IN MITIGATION FEES FOR PHASE ONE AND THEN ANOTHER 43 FOR PHASE TWO. SO IF, IF YOU RECALL, THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE BROKE IT UP. SO, UM, YOU'LL MAYBE HEAR ME REFERENCING THOSE, THOSE TWO THINGS. AND SO THERE'S STILL IN SOME INSTANCES, UH, SEPARATE OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE, WE LOOKED AT THE ENTIRE SITE, UH, IN, IN WHOLE. THE OTHER CHALLENGE THAT WAS PRESENTED ON THIS SITE IS ON THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY, THERE'S A, UM, LARGE, UH, EXISTING LARGE EASEMENT THAT TREES CANNOT BE PLACED ON. I BELIEVE IT IS A SANITARY LINE. SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE DID NOT ALLOW THEM TO PLACE ANY NEW TREES THAT MAY DAMAGE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF AREA WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TOTAL SITE THAT THEY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO PLANT TREES. SO IN LIEU OF THAT, THEY ARE PAYING INTO THE TREE MITIGATION FOR ALL OF THOSE, UM, CALIPER INCHES, NOT MITIGATED ON SITE. WE DID NOT GIVE THEM ANY SORT OF CREDIT. SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO USE THOSE FUNDS, UM, ELSEWHERE IN THE TOWN. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM, ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS, RIGHT, THERE'S EXCESS PARKING 144 SI SPACES. AT WHAT POINT DO YOU SAY WE'RE GONNA REQUIRE THEM TO DO LANDSCAPED ISLANDS WITH TREES IN THEM? YEAH, SO GENERALLY, UM, THE, WE DO HAVE A LANDSCAPE TREE REQUIREMENT. UH, IT'S EVERY PARKING SPACE HAS TO BE WITHIN 50 FEET OF A TREE. UM, I THINK THERE IS ONE AREA ON THIS SITE THAT DOES NOT MEET THAT, AND IT'S BECAUSE IT IS, UM, ON THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY AS I JUST MENTIONED, ADJACENT TO THE EASEMENT. SO THEY WERE UNABLE TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. UM, THE OTHER THING I WILL ADD IS CURRENTLY THE SITE IS, UM, AT A, THE PER THE PD, THE PARKING RATIO IS ONE PER 1000 ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE. SO, UM, APPROXIMATELY I THINK THE ENTIRE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 240,000 SQUARE FEET. UH, AND THEY'VE MET THAT PARKING REQUIREMENT AND EXCEEDED IT TO YOUR POINT. SO I THINK AT THIS POINT IT'S BALANCING, UM, BOTH THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT AS WHICH THEY ALSO MEET AND THE ABILITY FOR THOSE SPACES TO POTENTIALLY EVOLVE TO NEW USES IN THE FUTURE. AND WHAT THAT PARKING RATIO OR THAT PARKING DEMAND DOES COME TO. THE OTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER IS, UH, THOSE ARE PARKING. THE AMOUNT OF PARKING PROVIDED WAS DESIRED BY THE APPLICANT. UH, SO I WOULD ASK THEM TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE EXCESS OF PARKING IF THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S NEEDED. LESLIE, MAY I ADD SOMETHING? YEAH, SO I, I THINK THE, IT'S A VALID POINT AND ON THE FACE OF IT, I WOULD GENERALLY AGREE. I THINK THE THING YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO [00:20:01] EVALUATE IS WHERE WE GET THE GREATEST VALUE IN TERMS OF PLANTING NEW TREES. FOR ME, IT'S AT THE STREET EDGE AND IT'S WHERE PEOPLE CAN WALK AND WHERE THEY CAN BIKE AND WHERE THEY CAN SOCIALIZE. I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE, WHILE, WHILE IT CAN BE AN, IT'S AN ENHANCEMENT, THE GREATEST VALUE FOR NEW TREES, I DON'T SEE IT SITTING IN PARKING AREAS. I THINK IT, IT'S NICE AND IT PROVIDES SHADE FOR, FOR FOLKS THAT ARE PARKED THERE AND COOLS DOWN THEIR CAR A LITTLE BIT. BUT THE GREATEST VALUE FOR NEW TREES IS WHERE WE CAN PLANT THEM IN OTHER PARTS OF TOWN WHERE PEDESTRIANS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE AND ENJOY THE, THE SHADE AND, AND AT AND AT PLACES WHERE WHETHER WE'RE DRIVING, BIKING, WALKING, WHERE WE'RE MORE LIKELY TO SEE THE AESTHETIC IMPACT VERSUS PERHAPS DEEPER IN A, IN A LARGE WAREHOUSE SITE. NO, I GET IT. AND, AND I DO UNDERSTAND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME BENEFIT TO HAVING ADDITIONAL PARKING. SO LET'S JUST SAY ONCE THEY FINISH THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE HOW DO WE LIMIT THE USES OR I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THE PARKING COULD LIMIT THE USES. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY WANTED TO DO LIKE A, A WAREHOUSE THAT, THAT WAS LIKE QUASI RETAIL, COULD THEY DO IT ON THIS SITE? AND THEN WILL WE CHANGE THE PARKING REQUIREMENT? SO A CO WITH THAT PROPOSAL, WE WOULD REVIEW IT AGAINST THE, THE PD AND WHAT'S PERMITTED IN THE PD GENERALLY. UM, I DON'T HAVE TO LOOK BACK, BUT THE PD GENERALLY ALIGNS WITH THE C ONE, UH, PERMITTED USES AS WELL AS, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL OFFICE WAREHOUSE USE. UM, SO IF IT DID NOT REQUIRE AN S U P, IT WOULD GENERALLY BE PERMITTED BY WRIGHT. UM, WE WOULD EVALUATE THE USE. SO IF THERE'S ALSO, IF THERE WOULD BE AN S U P REQUIRED FOR A PARTICULAR USE, UM, RESTAURANT ISN'T LIKELY, BUT THAT'S ONE THAT IMMEDIATE COMES TO MIND OR AN EDUCATIONAL USE FOR THAT, FOR, FOR THAT, UM, MATTER, YOU WOULD NEED TO EVALUATE IT BASED ON THE DEMAND. SO I, I THINK WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING MAKES SENSE TO ME NOW. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND IT LOOKS LIKE [3. Discussion schedule for November and December meeting dates for the Planning and Zoning Commission. ] THE LAST AGENDA ITEM IS A DISCUSSION OF THE SCHEDULE FOR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER FOR OUR MEETINGS. GOOD EVENING. ONCE AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS. UH, SO IT SEEMS LIKE AGES AGO WHERE WE SET THE SCHEDULE, UH, FOR THIS YEAR, BUT WE'VE, UH, RUN OUT OF CALENDAR FINALLY AND WE'RE APPROACHING THE HOLIDAYS. SO YOU MAY RECALL THAT, UM, BACK IN JANUARY WE ESTABLISHED ALTERNATIVE MEETING DATES FOR THE COMMISSION, UH, FOR BOTH NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, UH, WHICH, UH, I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO HONOR. UH, WE DID INITIALLY HAVE A CONFLICT WITH OUR NOVEMBER MEETING DATE, UH, WHERE WE WERE SCHEDULING A JOINT MEETING OF THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMISSION TO ADDRESS THE NEXT SECTION OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE PROJECT. WE ARE STILL PLANNING TO DO THAT, BUT THERE A CONFLICT DID COME UP FOR CITY COUNCIL, UH, FOR THAT DATE. SO WE NO LONGER NEED YOU TO BE AVAILABLE FOR A U D C MEETING THAT NIGHT. BUT, UM, AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE CAUGHT, IT WAS A CONFLICT WITH WHEN WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FOR, UH, NOVEMBER, AND THAT WAS DONE TO STAY OUT OF THANKSGIVING WEEK. UM, NOT ONLY IS IT, UH, INCONVENIENCE FOR, UH, THE COMMISSION AND, AND UH, STAFF TO APPOINT, BUT UH, FOR RESIDENTS WHO MAY WANT TO, IF THERE'S A PARTICULAR ITEM THAT THEY MAY WANT TO COMMENT ON, UH, WE FREQUENTLY HAVE RESIDENTS WHO, WHO LEAVE FOR THE WEEK FOR THE HOLIDAY. AND, AND SO, UH, GIVING 'EM A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING IN NOVEMBER LED TO THAT NOVEMBER 15TH, UH, MEETING DATE. SO, UH, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE KEEP THAT DATE. UM, BUT WE ARE, UH, CERTAINLY OPEN TO ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE, UH, AT THIS TIME. SO OUR SCHEDULED MEETING IS SET FOR THE 21ST, IS THAT RIGHT? IS THAT THE THIRD? SO BY TYPICAL SCHEDULE, IT WOULD BE THE 21ST, BUT BACK IN JANUARY WE ADJUSTED IT TO STAY OUT OF THANKSGIVING WEEK. UH, SO IT IS, IT IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 15TH AND IT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO MAINTAIN THAT. OKAY. IS COUNSEL TUESDAY. COUNCIL'S TUESDAY, SO THAT'S WHY WE LANDED ON THE WEDNESDAY. SO ARE, MAYBE I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. ARE YOU SAYING KEEP IT ON THE 21ST OR DO YOU WANNA GO WITH THE WEEK BEFORE? I'M SAYING KEEP IT ON THE 15TH. AND I'M ALSO TELLING YOU YOU'RE NO LONGER NEEDED FOR A, UH, JOINT MEETING ON [00:25:01] THE U D C. ALL RIGHT. SORRY I WAS A LITTLE SLOW. OKAY. OKAY. IT'S ONLY GONNA BE ONE MEETING ON THE 15TH, ONE MEETING ONLY. OKAY. AND IT WILL BE YOUR REGULAR P AND Z MEETING THAT WORK FOR EVERYONE STILL? MM-HMM. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. DECEMBER, WE'RE DOING THE 13TH. YES. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS DURING THE WORK? THIS WORK SESSION? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.