* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. [00:00:01] IT IS SIX OH ONE AND WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 12TH. AND AS WE ALWAYS DO, WE WILL BEGIN OUR MEETING WITH THE PLEDGES TO THE FLAGS I PLEDGE THEE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE TWO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT WITH THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL. WE'LL GO STRAIGHT TO [3. Citizen Comments on the Consent Agenda Items. This item allows citizens to speak on any item listed on the Consent Agenda prior to its consideration. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the beginning of this item.] ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS CITIZEN. COMMENTS ON CONSENT, AGENDA ITEMS. IF THERE'S ANYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT'S ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO THAT AND I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON CONSENT ITEMS? SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THAT AND MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. [4. Council Member Clarification Requests Regarding Consent Agenda Items.] COUNCIL MEMBER CLARIFICATION, REQUEST REGARDING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. IS THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, MARLON? YES, MAYOR, I'VE GOT A QUESTION, UM, REGARDING THREE E THREE E? YES SIR. POSSIBLY FOR CHIEF SPENCER. HI, CHIEF. UH, IN READING, UH, THIS ITEM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD WAS, UH, IN A, IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'VE GOT A GAME GOING ON WITH A FOOTBALL GAME OVER AT, UH, LOWE'S STADIUM OR MAYBE A BASKETBALL GAME, SOMETHING WHERE WE'VE GOT A BIG CROWD AND WE'VE GOT A, WE'VE GOT A SERIOUS INCIDENT OCCURRING. DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY IDEA, UM, HOUSE STAFFED UP OR NOT? UH, DALLAS, UH, I S D POLICE DEPARTMENT TYPICALLY MIGHT BE, WOULD THEY HAVE APPROPRIATE STAFFING OR NOT, IS REALLY, UM, IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, I'D KINDA LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS. SO I CAN'T COMMENT ON THEIR STAFFING LEVEL PLANNING, BUT TRADITIONALLY WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THEIR STAFFING. UH, WE'RE GONNA BE THE FIRST RESPONDING AGENCY FOR MOST SERIOUS INCIDENTS ANYWAY. AND THEN THE I S D POLICE IS A JURISDICTIONAL AUTHORITY FOR THE SCHOOL PROPERTY WILL TAKE OVER. UM, WE, WE CAN ASSIST THEM AS WELL. WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. OKAY. AND, UM, IN YOUR HISTORY, HAVE WE HAD SOMETHING SERIOUS WHERE, WHERE WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING, UH, AND WE'VE HAD BOTH A P D ON THE SCENE AND, AND DALLAS AND THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT GOING BACK A VERY LONG TIME AGAIN, I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1995. UH, WE USED TO HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES BACK IN THE DAY. I, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE HAD ANY SERIOUS ISSUES IN RECENT MEMORY, BUT I, I COULD DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT FOR YOU. OKAY. AND YOU SAY SERIOUS ISSUES LIKE, UM, SERIOUS ISSUES WITH MAYBE THEM NOT BEING STAFFED OR BEING THERE, OR WHAT DO YOU MEAN? NO, WE, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE EVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THEM NOT STAFFING THEIR SPECIAL EVENTS, ESPECIALLY. SO FOOTBALL GAMES, AUDITORIUM EVENTS, THE COLISEUM EVENTS, ANY OTHER SCHOOL PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY NOW GEORGE BUSH ELEMENTARY IS THERE. IT'S, IT'S A MUCH MORE, UM, I THINK A, A, A FOCUS POINT FOR GAS STATION SECURITY OR POLICE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. SO THERE'S NOT A PAST INCH ISSUE WITH THEM NOT BEING PRESENT, UM, WHEN WE'VE GOT A SERIOUS CROWD, UH, ATTENDING A GAME, WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, AND SOMETHING OCCURRED? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO, SIR. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL I NEED. YES. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. UH, YEAH, THAT, THAT CLARIFIES WHAT I NEEDED, SO I'M, I HAVE NO PLAN TO PULL THAT ITEM. THANK YOU. DON'T RUN AWAY. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU TOO. UM, POINT I, IN THIS AGREEMENT SAYS, THE FIRST RESPONDING AGENCY WILL TAKE CONTROL OF ANY ACTIVE THREATS ON THE CAMPUS UNTIL SUCH TIME IS DEEMED APPROPRIATE TO RELEASE CONTROL OR AUTHORITY TO THE LOCAL AGENCY. I KNOW IT'S VERY BROAD. CAN YOU TELL US HOW THAT MIGHT BE HANDLED A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICALLY? SO, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE I S D POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT STAFF A RESOURCE OFFICER AT GEORGE BUSH ELEMENTARY OR, UH, AN AUDITORIUM OR COSSUM AT DURING NORMAL, NORMAL HOURS. AND SO AGAIN, ADDISON POLICE DEPARTMENT'S GONNA BE THE FIRST RESPONDING EVENT TO MOST INSTANCES THERE, AND WE HAVE IN THE PAST. AND, UH, THAT WILL NOT CHANGE. WHAT THIS DOES IS JUST PUT IT IN WRITING THAT YES, WE'RE GONNA RESPOND, BUT THEN WE WILL TURN OVER THE INCIDENT TO, TO D I S D POLICE DEPARTMENT AS SOON AS THEY EITHER GET ON SCENE OR WE'VE KIND OF RESOLVED THE ISSUE AND IT'S SAFE TO DO SO. ANY OTHER CLARIFICATIONS NEEDED FROM ANYBODY? VERY GOOD. AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, COUNSEL [5. Council Questions and Answers.] QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. THIS IS JUST A NOTIFICATION THAT THE, UH, JUST A REMINDER TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE DO THAT THE COUNCIL [00:05:01] WILL SEND QUESTIONS TO THE STAFF REGARDING, UH, ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR SOME CLARIFICATION PRIOR TO THE MEETING. AND THOSE QUESTIONS ARE SENT, THE RESPONSES TO THOSE QUESTIONS ARE SENT TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL. AND NOW WE DO ALSO UPLOAD THOSE TO THE WEBSITE. SO WHEN YOU GO TO THE AGENDA ON THE TOWN WEBSITE, UH, THERE WILL BE A LINK ON THE, ON THE AGENDA ITSELF TO TAKE YOU TO THE, THAT DOCUMENT THAT'S THE SAME ONE THAT WE RECEIVE IN THE EMAIL SO THAT EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. AND ITEM NUMBER SIX, CLOSED MEETING. [6. Closed Meeting. The Addison City Council will enter a Closed Meeting pursuant to Texas Government Code Sections 551-071 through 090 to discuss the following items:] THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL WILL ENTER A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 5 51 DASH 0 7 1 THROUGH 0 9 0 TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. SECTION 5 51 0 7 4 A ONE PERSONNEL MATTERS TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE, CITY SECRETARY RECRUITMENT PROCESS. AND IT IS 6 0 7 AND WE WILL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AND WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A LITTLE WHILE. OKAY. IT IS 6 34 [7. Open Meeting. In accordance with Texas Government Code Chapter 551, the Addison City Council will reconvene in an Open Meeting to consider action, if any, on the matters discussed in the Closed Meeting.] AND WE ARE COMING IN BACK INTO OPEN SESSION AND THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN FROM THE CLOSED SESSION. AND WE WILL MOVE INTO [a. Present and discuss an update on the Les Lacs Pond Improvement Project.] ITEM EIGHT, WORK SESSION REPORTS, PRESENT AND DISCUSS AN UPDATE ON THE LAC POND IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JOE P, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PARKS. SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY THIS AFTERNOON TO KIND OF RECAP, UH, VERY BRIEFLY A LITTLE BIT OF THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS OR PUBLIC INFORMATION PROCESS ON, UH, ON LAY LOCK PARKS, I'M SORRY, LAY LOCK POND LINER REPLACEMENT SITE. JOE, IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN REAL QUICK JUST FOR COUNSEL. UH, IF YOU DIDN'T NOTICE WITH THE EMAIL THAT WENT OUT, WE HAVE A, A VERY, A SLIGHTLY, UH, CHANGED PRESENTATION. SO IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING ALONG WITH A PREVIOUS, UM, DOCUMENT, IT'S SOME CHANGES. REALLY. THE CONTENT HASN'T CHANGED MUCH, MOSTLY JUST THE FORMAT OF THE PRESENTATION. SO JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT BEFORE YOU STARTED, JOE. THANKS. AND I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO DO THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO, UH, PART OF PART OF THE MEETING THAT WE HAD, WE DISCUSSED, UH, WENT BACK TO A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT COUNSEL APPROVING A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH WESTER CONSULTANTS ON JUNE 14TH, 2022 TO PREPARE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR LAY LOCKS POND. IT WAS ALSO ESTABLISHED AT THAT TIME THAT $3,282,110 IN 2019 BOND FUNDS WAS AVAILABLE FOR THE PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDED PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF 736,100. SO THE BASE BID PROJECT IN ITSELF INCLUDES REPLACEMENT OF THE POND LINER WITH H D P E, WHICH IS HIGH DENSITY POLYETHYLENE LINER. IT'S A PLASTIC LINER, A COMBINED COMBINED POND EDGE, A D A IMPROVEMENTS, LANDSCAPE ENHANCEMENTS AND RETAINING WALLS. ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO ADD A CLAY LINER, WHICH WOULD INVOLVE AN EXTRA TWO FEET OF EXCAVATION. AND THE PROJECT OF THE CLAY LINER WOULD BE IN LIEU OF H D P E LINER, THE POND DEEPENING OPTION. THE THIRD OPTION IS A BASE BED PROJECT WITH A CLAY LINER IN LIEU OF H D P E H D P E LINER IN A DEEPENING OF THE POND TO EIGHT FEET. ALTERNATE BID ITEMS INCLUDED ADDITION OF POND, FOUNTAIN AND TREE LIGHTS, TREE UPLIGHTING, AND RAIN GARDENS. AND DURING DESIGN STAFF ACTUALLY ADDED A REPLACEMENT OF A BRICK WALL TO THE LIST OF ALTERNATES. AND AS A NOTE, THE H D P E LINER WILL REQUIRE REPLACEMENT IN 20 TO 25 YEARS, ALTHOUGH IT IS ONE OF THE BEST GEOSYNTHETIC PRODUCTS ON THE MARKET TODAY. SO IT COULD HAVE AN ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR LIFESPAN, BUT IT DOES HAVE THAT LIFESPAN THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED. THE CLAY LINER WILL LAST IN PERPETUITY AND OBVIOUSLY NOT NEEDING TO BE REPLACED. AND THEN THE BENEFITS TO THE DEEPENING OF THE POND WILL IMPROVE THE WATER QUALITY CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THE LAY LOCKS POND IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ARE NEARING COMPLETION. I'M EXPECTING TO GET THOSE FROM THE CONSULTANT A WEEK FROM THURSDAY. SO ONE WEEK WE SHOULD HAVE THE HUN UH, 100% DOCUMENTS. AND IN FORMAL MEETING RELATED TO UPCOMING CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WAS HELD FOR RESIDENTS, AS I SAID, ON AUGUST 23RD, 2023 AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB. THERE WERE 94 PEOPLE THAT WERE IN ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETING. THE MEETING WAS VERY GOOD, IT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE, AND THE CONVERSATIONS WERE CONSTRUCTIVE AND IT WAS, UH, IT WAS A REAL GOOD FEELING FOR EVERYONE. AS WE LEFT THE MEETING. WE, UH, FELT REAL GOOD ABOUT IT AND I THINK THE [00:10:01] RESIDENTS DID AS WELL. SO I'M GONNA PRESENT TO YOU IN ABRIDGE VERSION OF THE INFORMATION SHARED WITH A COMMUNITY TO COUNCIL AND STAFF WILL SEEK COUNCIL DIRECTION IN EARLY NOVEMBER, OR ACTUALLY THAT DIRECTION WILL BE IN DECEMBER. ONCE RESPONSES TO THE R F P ARE RECEIVED AND STAFF, STAFF IS PREPARED TO PRESENT THE BIDS TO COUNCIL ONCE THEY COME IN DURING THE AUGUST 23RD MEETING, WE ESTABLISH THAT THERE IS A, AN A LOT OF EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY INPUT IN THE PROCESS. WE HAD OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE ASKED DURING THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS AND EDGE CONDITIONS. IT WAS DETERMINED BY THE RESIDENTS THAT NATURAL CONCRETE AND STONE BLOCKS WOULD BE PROVIDED. AS FAR AS THE PLANTINGS, THE RESIDENTS OVERWHELMINGLY SAID THAT THEY WANTED FORMALIZED PLANTINGS, INTERACTIVE AMENITIES SUCH AS GAMES, MOVABLE SEATING, FITNESS STATIONS, ET CETERA. THERE WAS NO PREFERENCE, UH, AMONG THE RESIDENTS. SO WE DID NOT PROVIDE ANY OF THOSE ITEMS. AS FAR AS SITE IMPROVEMENT AMENITIES, THE RETAINING WALLS, UH, WERE HIGH ON THE RESIDENTS LIST, AND THOSE WERE INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT. AND FOR ENVIRONMENTAL AMENITIES, RAIN GARDENS SCORED HIGH BY THE RESIDENTS, SO THOSE ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT ITSELF. AND AS FAR AS THE AESTHETIC IMPROVEMENT, AMENITIES IMPROVEMENT, AMENITIES, TREE LIGHTING, ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION, WORKING WITH THE TOWN TO, TO PROVIDE PUBLIC ART AND FOUNTAIN AND L E D LIGHTING ALL SCORED VERY HIGH AND ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS PROJECT. SO THIS IS WHAT THE BASE BID WITH H D P E LINER LOOKS LIKE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ARROW ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THAT IS POINTING TO THE BOTTOM OF THE POND. SO THAT WOULD BE EXCAVATING THE, THE POND ITSELF DOWN TO THAT LOCATION AND REMOVING ALL OF THE SEDIMENT AND THEN PLACING THE H D P E LINER ON TOP OF THAT, AND THEN ADDING WATER BACK IN, WHICH WILL ESTABLISH THE CURRENT ELEVATION OF WATER, WHICH IS AN AVERAGE OF ONLY THREE FEET IN THAT POND. AND AS THE FIRST ALTERNATE, THE UH, ARROW TO THE RIGHT IS POINTING TO THE BOTTOM OF THE CLAY LINER, AS I SAID. AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE GRAPH ON THE LEFT THAT TWO FEET OF EXCAVATION FOR THAT POND LINER, I'M SORRY FOR THE CLAY LINER, UH, WOULD BE IN PLACE, BUT THE WATER WOULD STILL BE AT THE SAME DEPTH AS WITH THE H D P E. AND THEN, UH, THE LAST ALTERNATE, OR, OR ACTUALLY THE LAST BASE LINE WOULD BE CLAY LINER AND POND DEEPENING. SO YOU CAN SEE THE GRAPH ON THE LEFT, WHICH SHOWS AN EIGHT FOOT DEPTH OF POND, AND THEN THE TWO FOOT POND LINER ITSELF. SO WHEN YOU COMPARE THE EXISTING BOTTOM OF THE POND TO THE BOTTOM OF THE CLAY LINER, THAT REPRESENTS AN EXCAVATION OF SIX AND A HALF FEET FOR THAT PART OF THE PROJECT. AND THIS ONE, UH, WOULD ALSO, THE, THE POND QUALITY IN THE WATER WOULD BE MUCH IMPROVED. AND WITH THE CLAY LINER, IT WOULD BE PRESENT IN PERPETUITY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DEALT WITH A CONSULTANT ON VERY EARLY ON, WHICH CAME AS A RESULT OF A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT, WAS THE OUTFALL IN THE POND THAT IS AT THE VERY NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE POND, JUST NORTH OF CHATHAM COURT. AND THAT INTAKE, UH, TRADITIONALLY HAS AT TIMES OF OVERFLOW, HAS INGESTED SOME DUCKLINGS AND SOME OTHER WATER FOUL, WHICH, UH, CAUSED A LOT OF PUBLIC CONCERN AND ALSO WILL OCCASIONALLY CAUSE PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY GO OVER TO THAT, UH, THAT IN, I'M SORRY, THE OUTLET AND TO ACTUALLY CLIMB IN IT TO RESCUE DUCKS. SO FOR A COUPLE OF PURPOSES, BUT MAINLY FOR THE THE DUCKLING SALVATION AND ALSO PUBLIC HEALTH AND HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, WE HAVE CREATED A METAL RACK, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER IS KIND OF WHAT THE ROOF LOOKS LIKE. INSTEAD OF A FLAT ROOF, IT ACTUALLY HAS THIS GABLE ROOF. AND THE REASON WE'RE GOING WITH A GABLE INSTEAD OF A FLAT ROOF IS BECAUSE THERE IS MORE SURFACE ON THAT STRUCTURE THAT, UH, THE WATER CAN FLOW INTO AS OPPOSED TO A FLAT ROOF. AND LOOKING AT THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER, WHAT WE ARE DOING, THIS IS A SEVEN BY SEVEN METAL BOX, WHICH IS GOING TO SIT ON A WALL JUST OUTSIDE OF THAT, UH, INTAKE, WHICH, UH, THIS BOX WILL SIT ON TOP OF THAT THE WALL ARE, IS PERFORATED SO THAT WATER CAN, UH, FLOW THROUGH IT, AND THEN THE BOX SITS ON TOP OF THAT AND THERE'S A FOOT OUT OF THE WATER. AND AS YOU CAN [00:15:01] SEE, THE OPENINGS ARE VERY SMALL, UH, IN THE AREA WHERE THE DUCKLINGS COULD BE INGESTED INTO THE FLOW. AND SO THOSE ARE ONE BY ONE GAPS. AND AS YOU GO UP TO THE ROOFTOP, IF YOU WILL, THEY ARE THREE BY THREE. AND THE REASON FOR THE THREE BY THREE IS SO, UH, A GREATER DEGREE OF WATER CAN FLOW INTO IT WITHOUT, UH, BEING TRAPPED INSIDE THE DEBRIS. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT TYPICAL POND EDGE SECTIONS. AND THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF CONCRETE EDGE AND STONE RETAINING WALL. YOU CAN SEE THE TRAIL TO THE RIGHT AND THEN A NATURAL EDGE GOING DOWN TO THE STONE RETAINING WALL. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S ONLY A SMALL PART OF THAT STONE RETAINING WALL, WHICH IS VISIBLE OUT OF THE GROUND, BUT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURE UNDERGROUND, UH, BECAUSE THE ENGINEERING, UH, NEEDS TO BE STABLE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A WALL THAT WILL REMAIN IN PERPETUITY IN GOOD SHAPE. AND THAT POND LINER CAN BE ADHERED TO THAT IF WE GO WITH A LINER DIRECTION. AND THEN, UH, ANOTHER SECTION THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS, AND THIS IS PARTICULARLY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE POND, IS A CUT STONE EDGE WITH VARIED STONE HIKE. THIS IS, UH, A VERY AESTHETIC LOOK FROM ACROSS THE POND. IT ALSO SERVES AS JUST A DIFFERENT MEANS TO RETAIN THE SOIL UP TO THE POND. AND IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR PEOPLE TO STEP OUT ON MAYBE THE TOP OF THE STEPS AND, AND SIT OUT AND LOOK ACROSS THE POND. WE ALSO HAVE AN ALTERNATE FOR RAIN GARDENS. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERY TOP OF THIS, THIS WOULD BE THE END OF WELLER RUN. SO WHAT IS DONE IN THIS PARTICULAR EXAMPLE, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE ALTERNATES, WOULD BE TO USE THE EXISTING FLUMES THAT ARE END AT THE END OF THE FOUR CUL-DE-SACS ON THE EAST AND SOUTH SIDE. TO INCLUDE WAYSIDE COURT IS THAT, UH, THE PLANTINGS WOULD BE THROUGH THE FLUME, AND THEN AREAS OUTSIDE OF THAT. AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE PROFILE THAT, UH, THERE IS GOING TO BE A STONE BRIDGE THAT'S GONNA BE OVER THE FLUME ITSELF. AND THEN THE PLANTINGS HAVE A PROFILE OF SOIL, AND THEN THEY HAVE SAND, AND THEN THEY HAVE GRAVEL. SO THE PURPOSE OF THE SOIL IS TO ACTUALLY RETAIN THE ORGANIC MATTER AND MIX IT IN, AND THEN THE SAND AND THE GRAVEL WILL FILTER IT OUT BEFORE IT GOES INTO UNDERGROUND STORM PIPING. AND THEN BACK INTO THE POND. WE ADDED A WALL AT THE END. WE WERE INITIALLY LOOKING AT DOING A SERPENTINE WALL AKIN TO WHAT IS THERE NOW, BUT, UH, THAT IS 125 FEET. AND WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT SIMPLER WITH A MUCH SMALLER PROFILE. THIS ONE IS 52 FEET. IT, UH, YOU CAN SEE IN THE PLAN VIEW UP AT THE TOP IT IS CRESCENT SHAPED. IT'S, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO BELTWAY. IT, UH, KIND OF EMULATES THE SHAPE OF THE END OF THE POND, AND IT HAS A LITTLE FLAGSTONE AREA SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GO OFF OF THE PATH AND, AND VIEW WHAT IF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WERE TO BE SELECTED AS AN ALTERNATE. THE ADDISON ARB FOUNDATION HAS AGREED TO CREATE A MOSAIC, UH, MOSAIC TILE WORK OF ART IN THAT AREA. SO THAT WOULD BE EXCITING, BUT, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THE BIDS COME IN AND HOW COUNCIL CHOOSES TO SELECT. SO FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES, UH, WE, WE MADE A POINTED EFFORT IN OUR CONVERSATION WITH THE RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE VERY CLOSE TO THEIR BACKYARDS AND THAT WE WANTED TO PRESENT AND PROVIDE AS MUCH COMFORT FOR THEM AS POSSIBLE AND TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING AND ABLE TO GET THE BEST PRODUCT AND THE BEST CONTRACTOR FOR THEM. SO THE CRITERION, THERE ARE FOUR OF THEM FOR A TOTAL OF A HUNDRED PERCENT. THE FIRST CRITERION IS PROPOSED CONTRACT PRICE, WHICH WE HAVE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS WEIGHTED HIGHER THAN ANY OF THE OTHERS AT 50% SIMILAR PROJECT REFERENCES. AND THAT'S IN REGARD TO POND LINER REPLACEMENT OR PLACEMENT. UH, THE CONTRACTOR WOULD NEED TO HAVE FIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND THREE PRACTICAL JOBS THAT THEY CAN USE AS REFERENCE THAT IS WEIGHTED AT 25% IN LISTING OF PROPOSED SUPPLIERS, THEIR SUBS AND THEIR STAFF. THE QUALITY OF ALL THOSE LISTED ABOVE OR AT 15% AND THE CONSTRUCTION TIME BASED ON CALENDAR DAYS IS AT 10%. AND THE CONSTRUCTION TIME IS, UH, ACTUALLY ASSIGNED BY THE CONTRACTOR [00:20:01] AND NOT STAFF. SO WE ALSO WANTED TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT WE WERE DOING AND OTHER CONSIDERATIONS. AND THAT IS WORKING HOURS. WE'LL BEGIN AT EIGHT AND END AT 5:00 PM CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO TAKE APPROXIMATELY 10 TO 12 MONTHS TO COMPLETE. THE CONTRACTOR WILL ACCESS THE SITE FROM BELTWAY CONTRACTOR PARKING OR EQUIPMENT STORAGE ON THE SEVEN CUL-DE-SAC. STREETS WILL BE ABSOLUTELY PROHIBITED, BUT THERE MIGHT BE MINOR EXCEPTIONS FOR SOME MATERIAL DROP-OFFS AT SOME OF THEM, BUT IT WON'T BE LENGTHY OR EXTENSIVE. TOWN STAFF WILL INSPECT THE PROJECT ON A DAILY BASIS OR AS MUCH AS AS POSSIBLE. REGULAR UPDATES WILL BE PROVIDED ON THE LAY LOCKS POND IMPROVEMENT PROJECT CONSTRUCTION PAGE, WHICH IS PARK AND RECREATION. NO CHANGES WILL BE MADE TO THE PRIVATE PROPERTY AS A RESULT OF THE PROJECT. THE PROJECT HAS BEEN SURVEYED TO IDENTIFY A PRIVATE PROPERTY AND AS SUCH, IT WILL BE FLAGGED AND NO WORK WILL BE DONE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE DID LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY AT TIMES, BUT NOT OFTEN UNPLEASANT ODORS, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SEDIMENT REMOVAL PROCESS. BUT WE DON'T EXPECT THAT AN EXPERIENCE TELLS US THAT THAT REMOVAL, ONCE IT STARTS TO DRY OUT, THE ODOR IS NOT PRESENT AND SHOULD NOT LAST VERY LONG. AND THEN LASTLY, GRASS INSIDE THE IMMEDIATE OUTSIDE THE PERIMETER FENCE WILL BE CAPPED AT FOUR INCHES OR BELOW. WE ALSO WANTED TO ILLUSTRATE FOR THE RESIDENCE WHAT THE CLOSURE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OR EAST BOUND BELTWAY LOOKS LIKE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. THE REASON FOR THE CLOSURE IS THAT BECOMES OUR, UH, CONSTRUCTION ENTRY AND EXIT FOR THE PROJECT. IT PROVIDES STACKING FOR VEHICLES AND PRODUCTS, EQUIPMENT, ET CETERA, FOR THE PROJECT. AND IT ALSO WILL PROVIDE THE CONSTRUCTION ENTRY AND EXIT INTO THE POND. AND THAT WILL BE THE ONLY CONSTRUCTION ENTRY AND EXIT INTO THE POND. AND ALL TRAFFIC WILL BE DIVERTED BETWEEN LAY LOCKS AND PROTON DRIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BELTWAY REPRESENTED BY THE DOUBLE ARROW. WE ALSO HAVE A CONSIDERATION IN WHICH, UH, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE EXPRESSED, UH, MORE INFORMATION. AND THAT IS WE, WE UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO CLOSE THE SIDEWALK AROUND THE POND, WHICH IS EXTREMELY POPULAR. SO WE OUTLINED A SERIES OF PUBLIC SIDEWALKS THAT ARE OPEN FROM THE CUL-DE-SACS IN THE STREETS AROUND THE POND, WHICH TAKES YOU NORTHWARD ON BOTH, UH, PROTON AND LAY LOCKS UP TO OFF-ROAD TRAIL ALONG BELTWAY, AND THEN AROUND LAY LOCKS PARK ALL THE WAY UP TO REDDING TRAIL AND THEN SOUTHWARD ON THE REDING TRAIL AS YOU MAKE YOUR WAY DOWN TO AZURE LANE AND BACK TO PROTON, WHERE AGAIN, PUBLIC SIDEWALKS ARE AVAILABLE TO PRIVATE RESIDENCES. AND THEN LASTLY, THE POND ITSELF IS GOING TO BE CONTAINED BY CONSTRUCTION FENCING. THAT IS GOING TO HAVE AN OPAQUE SCREEN ON THE OUTSIDE OF IT. CONSTRUCTION FENCING IS GOING TO BE A CLOSED SYSTEM WITH GATES ONLY OPEN DURING CONSTRUCTION HOURS AND USED BY CONTRACTORS. AND, UM, IT WILL, AS I SAID, BE OPAQUE AND IT WILL BE ON THE OUTSIDE THE OUTER SIDE OR THE RESIDENT SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK ITSELF. AND THEN THE DEWATERING HAPPENS. AND THEN THAT BEGINS THE PROJECT. AND I PROVIDED A PROJECT SCHEDULE FOR YOU JUST AS A RECAP ON JUNE THE 14TH OF 22, WESTER CONSULTANTS CONTRACT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER THE 10TH OF 22. WESTER CONSULTANTS COMPLETED SCHEMATIC DESIGN ON APRIL THE 19TH OF 23. WESTRA CO CONSULTANTS SUBMITTED 50% COMPLETED PLANS. AND WITH EACH OF THESE ITERATIONS OF THE PLANS, THE STAFF HAD ABOUT FOUR WEEKS TO RES RESPOND, AND WE DID, UH, INCLUDE PUBLIC WORKS AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THESE RESPONSES. AND THEN ON SEPTEMBER, I'M SORRY, ON JULY THE 13TH OF 23, WESTRA CONSULTANTS SUBMITTED 90% COMPLETE PLANS. STAFF RESPONDED. AND THEN ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, WESTRA CONSULTANTS SUBMITTED THE 99% PLANS. AND ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, WHICH WAS YESTERDAY, THE TOWN OF ADDISON RETURNED THE FINAL COMMENTS. AND SOMEWHERE JUST AROUND THE, JUST BEFORE THE 28TH, WE WILL RECEIVE THE LIVE, UH, THE DOCUMENTS, WHICH WILL BE THE FINAL DOCUMENTS. AND THEN BIDDING IS EXPECTED, CURRENTLY EXPECTED TO GO LIVE ON SEPTEMBER THE 28TH WITH A NON-MANDATORY [00:25:02] PRE-BID MEETING ON SITE ON OCTOBER THE THIRD. AND THEN BIDSYNC WILL CLOSE ON NOVEMBER THE SECOND OF 23 WHEN THE RFPS WILL BE DUE. WE'LL HAVE TO EVALUATE THOSE RFPS AND MAKE CONSIDERATIONS OF OUR RECOMMENDATION. AND SINCE THERE IS ONLY ONE COUNCIL MEETING IN NOVEMBER, WE WILL BE SEEKING COUNCIL'S APPROVAL FOR CONTRACT AWARD ON DECEMBER THE 12TH AT THAT ONLY COUNCIL MEETING IN DECEMBER. AND SO WITH THAT CONCLUDE CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOE, DAN? OKAY, YOUR LIGHTS ON MARLIN. GO AHEAD, SIR. HEY JOE, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION. CAN YOU SHARE WITH US, UM, WHEN THE BRICK WALL, UH, HOW THAT ORIGINATED, HOW THE BRICK, HOW THE BRICK WALL THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ORIGINATED? CORRECT, YES. SO THERE WERE SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS INTERNALLY WITH STAFF ABOUT THAT SERPENTINE WALL AND THE TIGHT, UH, CONFIGURATION OF PLANNINGS THE WAY THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. SO WE, WE WORKED WITH THE ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION WHO HAD A VISION FOR A MOSAIC ON A WALL. AND SO WE DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING THAT WAS DIFFERENT THAN THE SERPENTINE IS TO, TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT, UH, CRESCENT SHAPED WITH THREE PANELS THAT ARE SIX FEET HIGH THAT WOULD HAVE COLUMNS AND THEN TWO END PANELS THAT WERE FOUR FEET HIGH. AND SO IT WAS, WITH THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THE ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION, THAT WE DECIDED TO MAKE THE WALL SMALLER AND TALLER FOR SOME SCREENING, UH, DIRECTLY, UH, NEXT TO BELTWAY, BUT NOT HAVE ALL OF THE TREES BEHIND THERE. OKAY. SO AT PRESENT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF SHRUB WE HAVE, BUT WE'VE GOT A NICE BIG SHRUB LINE. YES, SIR. IS THAT GONNA BE REMOVED? SO IF WE GO WITH THE WALL OPTION, WHICH WILL PROVIDE 52 FEET OF SCREENING, THAT WILL BE AN AUTOMATIC SCREEN, AND THEN AS YOU GO OUT THERE IS GONNA BE VEGETATION THERE TO REPLACE WHAT IS THERE? IT IS GOING TO BE A SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT DESIGN IN THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO BE SO TIGHTLY PACKED IN BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE EXPRESS EXPERIENCES WITH DOGS, MEETING DOGS WITH ALL OF THOSE NELLY R STEVENS HOLLIES RIGHT NEXT TO THE PATHWAY ON THE POND. AND THEN SOME PEOPLE WANTING TO ACTUALLY GO AROUND THE BACK AND, AND PEOPLE EXPRESSING THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY WALKING A DOG ON BELTWAY. AND SO WE ARE GIVING MORE ROOM FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, BOTH ON THE POND SIDE AND ON THE BELTWAY SIDE. THERE WILL STILL BE VEGETATION, THERE WILL BE, UH, THERE WILL BE SCREENING INVOLVED, BUT THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME VISUAL LOOK THROUGHS, IF YOU WILL, TO THE POND ITSELF WITHOUT MAKING IT QUITE SO, UH, INTENSE WITH PLANT MATERIAL AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO WHEN YOU SAY, UH, DECISION, COULD YOU TURN YOUR MIC BACK ON PLEASE? THANK YOU. UM, SO YOU, YOU SAID THERE'D BE A COUNCIL DECISION ON THIS BRICK WALL. WILL THAT KIND OF BE GO HAND IN HAND WITH REMOVAL OF THE SHRUBS OR NOT? SO, SO THERE ARE THE, THE SHRUBS HAVE TO BE REMOVED FOR CONSTRUCTION, INCLUDING ALL OF THOSE SHRUBS. ALL OF THE SHRUBS AND ALL OF THE TREES HAVE TO BE REMOVED FOR CONSTRUCTION. IT'S A BIG CONSTRUCTION AREA, IT'S A BIG PROJECT. AND SO THERE WILL BE LARGE EXCAVATORS AND LARGE TRUCKS GOING INTO THE BOTTOM OF THE POND AND COLLECTING THE DEBRIS AND THE ROCK AND THEN TAKING IT OUT. SO THE WALL ITSELF IS GOING TO BE AN ALTERNATE. SO WITH THOSE ALTERNATE BIDS, ALONG WITH THE BASE BIDS, WE WILL MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL BASED ON PROJECTS WITHIN BUDGET AND THEN SHOW YOU WHAT THAT BUDGET WILL BE. THE GAP WILL BE IF WE GO OUTSIDE THAT BUDGET AND COUNCIL DECIDES THAT THAT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO DO THAT, THEN IF WE HAVE THE WALL, THE WALL WILL ACT AS A SCREEN FOR THAT 52 FEET OF THE WALL AND THEN THERE'LL BE PLANTINGS ON EACH SIDE OF THAT. BUT IF THE WALL IS NOT THERE, PLANTINGS WILL BE REPLACED, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE AS THICK AS IT IS CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW DUE TO A NUMBER OF REASONS. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, YEAH. I WAS TRYING TO, I DIDN'T REALIZE THE TRUCKS WERE GONNA BE THAT. YES, SIR. THAT WIDE. HOW DO WE KNOW HOW LONG THAT THAT SHRUB LINE IS? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S A, IT'S 125 FEET, CURRENTLY 1 25 FEET. SO THERE'S, THERE'S, UM, IT'S NOT THAT THE TRUCKS ARE THAT WIDE, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE TRUCKS CROSSING IN AND OFF OF BELTWAY. THERE'LL [00:30:01] BE OTHER EQUIPMENT COMING IN. THERE'S GONNA BE PEDESTRIAN WORKERS COMING IN TO TAKE MEASUREMENTS AND, AND DO THE JOB THEY NEED TO DO TO REPLACE THAT LINER. IF WE GO WITH THE H D P E LINER, THERE ARE LITERALLY SOME BIG SHEETS THAT ARE ACTUALLY WELDED TOGETHER WITH THE H D P E. SO IT'S GONNA BE QUITE AN OPERATION GOING THROUGH THERE. AND THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE NEED TO OPEN THAT ENTIRE THING UP, WHICH IS ON UH, PARK PROPERTY. OKAY. FOR THE EXCEPTION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. ALRIGHT. AND, AND I NOTICED YOU HAD A, I THINK YOU HAD A PROJECT TIMELINE IN YOUR PRESENTATION. IS THAT, IS THAT IN OUR COUNCIL? IS THAT IN IN, IN THE AGENDA OR WAS THAT THE ITEMS? IT WAS AT IT, IT ACTUALLY WAS NOT IN THE AGENDA. IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE RESIDENTS AT THE MEETING, BUT THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR THE AGENDA, SO WE HAVE PUT IT IN. OKAY. AND IT IS IN A POWERPOINT THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS Y'ALL WERE GOING TO GET THIS AFTERNOON. OKAY. AND, AND, UM, AS WE GO FORWARD, WHAT I'M HOPING IS, IS NEXT TIME THIS IS ON THE AGENDA, THAT, THAT WE WILL HAVE A SCHEDULE LIKE THIS AS PART OF OUR AGENDA. AND, AND, UM, I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT MEETINGS, UM, THAT OCCURRED, UH, THEY, AND CORRECT, WELL THAT, THAT SOME OF THOSE THAT ARE, THAT ARE REALLY BIG ONES MIGHT BE ADDED TO THE, ADDED TO THE SCHEDULE FOR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE I KNOW I WAS, A LOT OF US WERE PART OF THAT SURE. BACK TO MAYBE 2019 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME OF THOSE DATES WHERE COUNSEL APPROVED, UM, WHATEVER WE APPROVED, UM, THAT GOT US TO JUNE 14TH TWO. OH, SIR. AND ON JUNE 14TH, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU WERE ON COUNSEL AT THAT TIME. WE DID DO A COUNCIL WORK SESSION WHERE THERE WAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF BACKGROUND THAT WE WENT OVER. AND THAT BACKGROUND IS ACTUALLY IN THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. IT'S ON THE CONSTRUCTION PAGE UNDER PARK AND RECREATION AND THEN PARKS AND TRAILS. AND YOU CAN GO TO LAY LOCK AND SEE THE FULL PRESENTATION THERE. AND ALL OF THAT BACKGROUND IS THERE AS WELL. BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT IN ANY FORM THAT YOU WISH FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION IN DECEMBER. YEAH. THAT, THAT WORKS FOR ME. SO THOSE DATES, UM, WERE COUNCIL APPROVED, WHATEVER WE, WE APPROVE THAT THAT IS ON THE WEBSITE. YES, SIR. RIGHT. I'LL JUST GO THE PRESENTATION ON THE WEBSITE, ON THE CONSTRUCTION PAGE. PERFECT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. KU YEAH, THANK YOU JOE. THAT WAS A GOOD PRESENTATION FULL OF A LOT OF INFORMATION. I WANNA PICK UP ON THE SCHEDULING THERE. CAN YOU GO TO THE CONSTRUCTION PERIMETER FENCING AND DEWATERING SLIDE? THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE. SO THIS SLIDE, UH, THE PERIMETER, UH, THICK LINE IS SHOWING WHERE THE FENCE IS GONNA BE. DID YOU SAY IT'S A SIX FOOT FENCE? IT'LL BE A SIX FOOT TALL FENCE AND IT WILL BE LOCATED ON THE HIGHEST PROPERTY AROUND THE POND ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE CIRCULAR SIDEWALK THAT GOES AROUND. AND THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING IT ON THE HIGHEST SIDE IS SO RESIDENCE THAT ARE IN THE CUL-DE-SACS AND THEIR PRIVATE RESIDENCE WILL BE EVEN WITH IT, INSTEAD OF LOOKING DOWN OVER IT. RIGHT. IT WILL HAVE THAT OPAQUE SCREEN ON IT. SO THE SCREEN WILL BE INSTALLED. AND YOU SAID THERE'S LIMITED ACCESS HERE. SO IS ALL THE ACCESS GONNA BE ON BELTWAY THERE FOR PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE? THERE WILL BE NO WAY THAT A, THAT A CITIZEN OR A PEDESTRIAN WOULD BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE. THE ONLY ACCESS WILL BE BY THE PROFESSIONAL INSTALLERS DURING CONSTRUCTION. SO THE BEST CASE SCENARIO FOR THIS FENCE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, HOW LONG DURATION FOR THAT FENCE TO BE UP THE FENCE WILL BE UP DURING MOST OF THE ENTIRETY OF CONSTRUCTION. I CAN'T IMAGINE A SCENARIO, UH, WITHOUT SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT DOWN FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. AND, UH, THAT WOULD BE, WE'RE SPECULATING BETWEEN, UH, 10 MONTHS AND 12 MONTHS. 10 TO 12 MONTHS OF THIS CONDITION. YES, SIR. SO ON THE SCREEN HERE TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS WHERE BELTWAY IS? YES, SIR. LOCATED, THAT'S THE WALL THAT'S GONNA BE COMPLETELY REMOVED AND THE TREES AND SHRUBBERY WILL BE REMOVED THERE. THAT'S GONNA ALLOW ACCESS FOR TRUCKS FOR THE REMOVAL OF MATERIAL DEWATERING MATERIAL. SO THERE'S GONNA BE TRUCKS DRIVING ALL THE WAY INTO THIS LOCATION TO THE FAR WE, UH, LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN HERE. YES, SIR. AND TURNING AROUND AND COMING BACK OUT. YES SIR. THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY GONNA HAVE TO GET ON A BELTWAY. DO YOU, HAVE YOU HAD ANY CON CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHERE THAT CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC IS GONNA GO? 'CAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY PULL OUT OF THERE, THAT'S A ONE WAY EXIT STREET THAT THEY'RE GETTING ONTO. SO THEY, THEY WILL ACTUALLY BE ABLE, BECAUSE [00:35:01] BELTWAY, UH, BOTH THE, I'M SORRY, THE EASTBOUND LANES ON SOUTH SIDE, SO THEY CAN EITHER EXIT TO THE LEFT DOWN TO LAY LOCKS OR TO THE RIGHT DOWN TO PROTON. AND OUR EXPECTATION IS ONCE THIS IS ESTABLISHED AND BELTWAY BETWEEN LAY LOCKS AND PROTON IS CLOSED, AND THEN A LOT OF THE LOCAL TRAFFIC WILL SEEK ALTERNATE ROUTES FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, UM, UP TO BELTLINE AS AN EXAMPLE. AND THAT THE, THE TRAFFIC WILL BE MINIMIZED IN THIS AREA. SO YOU ALSO HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION ACCESS AND STORAGE SLIDE. I'D LIKE TO GO TO NEXT, JUST SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT END OF THAT POND RIGHT THERE. SO DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, THE 2010 TO 12 MONTHS BELTWAY WILL BE GOING IN. DESCRIBE THAT TO US. HOW THE TRAFFIC IS IS GOING TO BE ROUTED. I I CAN SURE DO THAT FOR YOU. SO IF YOU LOOK OFF, UH, TO THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN, LEFT OF LAY LOCKS, YOU CAN SEE THE USUAL CONDITION AS IT IS TODAY WITH THE GREEN ARROW GOING EASTBOUND ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THE GREEN ARROW GOING NORTHBOUND ON, UH, I'M SORRY, THE GREEN ARROW GOING WESTBOUND ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND THEN LIKEWISE TO THE RIGHT OF PROTON, YOU CAN SEE THE SOUTH SIDE BEING EASTBOUND WITH A GREEN ARROW GOING EAST. AND THE, THE TRAFFIC ON THE NORTH SIDE, UH, GOING WEST WHEN THE RED DASHES AND THE EXIT AND THE XS, I'M SORRY, WILL PRESENT THE AREA THAT IS GOING TO BE FULLY CLOSED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE WILL BE A TRANSITION BOTH AT PROTON AND AT LAY LOCKS THAT WILL HAVE TRAFFIC GOING, EXCUSE ME, BOTH WAYS ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PRESENTED THAT WITH A DOUBLE ARROW OR A SINGLE ARROW GOING BOTH DIRECTIONS. SO THERE WILL BE TWO LANES PROVIDED FOR THEM EAST AND WESTBOUND ON BOTH OF THOSE LANES. SO THOSE, THOSE LANES WITH THE XS, THAT LANE WITH THE XS ON IT WILL BE CLOSED, BUT IT'LL BE USED AS CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. YES, SIR. IN EITHER DIRECTION. YES SIR. IT, IT'LL BE FOR A NUMBER OF THINGS. WE, WE NEEDED TO COMPARTMENTALIZE OUR EFFECTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO ACCESS IN THE PRIVATE CUL-DE-SAC OR PUBLIC CUL-DE-SACS IN OTHER AREAS. SO WE'RE, WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE WORKING FOR THE CONTRACTOR SUBCONTRACTORS, THEIR PARKING NEEDS OR PRIVATE PARKING NEEDS, THE EQUIPMENT PARKING, UH, WE SAY WE HAVE H D P E THAT COMES IN ON MULTIPLE PALLETS, IT WOULD NEED TO BE STACKED SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA. SO WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO MAKE PROVISIONS FOR, UH, THAT AREA TO BE UTILIZED FOR THAT. SO THIS IS GONNA BE A LAY DOWN AREA IS WHAT I'M MEAN. SORRY. SO THIS IS GONNA BE A LAY DOWN AREA DURING THE CONSTRUCTION? IT COULD, YES. AT DIFFERENT DEGREES DURING THE PROCESS AND DURING THAT IT WILL NOT BE FENCED DURING IT, IT WILL BE FENCED DURING THIS, BUT DURING THE DAY, THE FENCING TO ALLOW THE TRUCKS AND THE OPERATIONS TO COME OFF OF BELTWAY INTO THE POND WILL BE OPENED UP AND THEN CLOSED AT THE END OF EVERY DAY TO SECURE THE SITE. ALRIGHT, WELL THOUGHT OUT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JOE? GOOD. I HAVE A, A QUESTION SAME, JUST TO CLARIFY, GQ MIGHT, MIGHT'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION AND I, AND I JUST MISSED THAT IT WAS ASKED, FIRST OF ALL, VERY GOOD INFORMATION ANSWERS, A LOT OF QUESTIONS, UH, THAT, THAT I HAD HAD. AND, UM, WHAT A PLAN. THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE. AND TO, UM, MINIMIZE THE EFFECTS OF THE FOLKS THAT LIVE ON THOSE CUL-DE-SACS. THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT TO DO. SO THANK YOU. UH, THE CONSTRUCTION AREA, THE LAY DOWN AREA, THE, UM, WILL THAT BE FENCED INTO? IT WILL BE, UH, PORTION OF IT WILL BE YES. ALL THE WAY TO THE ISLAND, UH, SEPARATING EAST AND WESTBOUND BELTWAY, JUST AS YOU BASICALLY SEE THERE, I ACTUALLY DID NOT EXTEND THE GRAPHIC TO, TO GO TO THAT ISLAND, BUT THAT IS OUR INTENT THAT THE FENCING SHOULD GO UP TO THAT MIDDLE ISLAND IN BELTWAY. AND IF IT'S, IF IT'S FURTHER ALONG ON THE OTHER, UH, CLOSURE PLAN, BELT DRIVE, CLOSURE, BELTWAY DRIVE CLOSURE PLAN, IF IT'S FURTHER UP AND DOWN ON THE RED, UH, SIDE OF THAT, YOU'LL HAVE THAT FENCE STINT ALSO. THAT IS [00:40:01] CORRECT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS HERE? I'VE GOT ONE LAST FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THIS, JOE. ON THIS, ON THIS SLIDE, DO WE KNOW HOW WIDE THE STREET IS, UM, ON THE, UH, THE NORTH PART OF, UH, BELTWAY? I ACTUALLY DON'T, BUT, BUT WE'VE CHECKED IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HAVE TWO-WAY TRAFFIC YES. THAT THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED. UM, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE WIDTH OF THAT? WE HAVE SOMEBODY HERE THAT JUST ROUGHLY US TO KNOW. . THANKS SHANNON. MEETING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SHANNON HICKS, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING SERVICES. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 25 FEET OPEN, SO ALLOW US FOR 2 11, 12 FOOT LANES THROUGH THERE. OKAY. I'VE JUST NEVER CONTEMPLATED THAT UNTIL NOW. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE, DAVID? JUST WANNA MAKE ONE COMMENT. CERTAINLY COME IN, JOE, A GREAT PRESENTATION, A GREAT PRESENTATION IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND OBVIOUSLY WE'LL BE COMING BACK AS, AS WE DO OUR, THE FINAL AGREEMENTS, BUT I THINK AS WE WE'RE ALL COGNIZANT THAT THIS IS GONNA HAVE A, A VERY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON RESIDENTS. SO PUBLIC COMMUNICATION AND ADDITIONAL MEETINGS AND OUTREACH WILL BE A PRIORITY AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. MAYOR, MAY I, PART OF THAT CHALLENGE THERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT THERE ARE NO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS TO HELP, UH, SPREAD THE INFORMATION. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE, UH, GET A LITTLE EXTRA EFFORT IN, IN SHARING SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE, WE HAVE FOR SURE. DAN, DO YOU HAD SOMETHING? YEAH. QUESTION. UM, THE L P R, THE READER THAT'S SAW ON BELTWAY, WILL THAT BE READJUSTED WITH THE CLOSURE OF THAT SECTION OF BELTWAY? I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHERE THAT L P R IS, BUT I KNOW IT'S NEAR THAT ENTRANCE. SO FROM A SECURITY OR STANDPOINT, FROM POLICING FROM FIRE, WILL THE L P R READER BE ADJUSTED? IT'S FURTHER DOWN, I THINK. I'M NOT AWARE OF ONE IN THAT LOCATION, BUT I KNOW THERE IS ONE ON BELTWAY FURTHER TOWARDS MIDWAY. RIGHT. THERE'S ALSO ONE TOWARDS, I KNOW TOWARDS MARSH, YES. AT THE ENTRANCE OF MARSH, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHERE. GOOD EVENING. UH, COUNSEL, HAMIT KUR, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF INTERNAL SERVICES. YES. WE ALREADY CONTACTED THE VENDOR TO READJUST THE ANGLE FOR THAT AREA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU HAMID. EILEEN? YEAH, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION ON THE NORTH SIDE, I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE, UH, BOTH EAST AND WESTBOUND TRAFFIC. ARE YOU GONNA PUT SOMETHING BETWEEN THOSE LANES SO IT'S REALLY CLEAR? MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT PEOPLE ARE USED TO IT JUST BEING ONE WAY. SO HOW ARE YOU GONNA TO SET THAT UP? THE CONTRACTOR IS GONNA BE REQUIRED TO, UH, GIVE US A TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN AND IT WILL BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THAT IS COVERED IN THEIR PLAN AND THEY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO START WORK UNTIL THAT TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED BY PUBLIC WORKS. SO WE'LL LEAVE IT UP TO MEANS AND METHODS OF THE CONTRACTOR, BUT WE WILL MAKE IT CERTAINLY CLEAR NOT ONLY IN THE DOCUMENTS, BUT THROUGH, UH, PRESENTATION THAT WE MAKE AT THE NON-MANDATORY PRE-BID THAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR TRAFFIC AND IT MUST BE APPROVED BY OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYTHING ELSE? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JOE, YOU CERTAINLY HAD A SOLD HOUSE WHEN SOLD THAT HOUSE WHEN YOU, UH, DID THE PRESENTATION AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB. I WAS, I WAS STANDING ROOM ONLY OUTSIDE. SO, CONGRATULATIONS. NICE JOB. IT WAS SUCH A PRODUCTIVE MEETING AND I APPRECIATE 94 PEOPLE IN THE ROOM. IT WAS TIGHT, BUT IT WAS, YEAH. THANK YOU. IT WAS PACKED. THEY WERE, THEY WERE VERY ENGAGED. THANK YOU. GREAT. ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT NOW? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE WILL TAKE A BREAK UNTIL SEVEN 30. SEE YOU SHORTLY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. IT IS 7 31. 7 31, AND WE WILL COME BACK INTO SESSION FOR OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. ITEM ONE [a. City Manager's Announcements] FOR THE REGULAR MEETING, WE WILL GO INTO PROCLAMATIONS PRESENTATIONS. ITEM ONE A CITY MANAGER'S ANNOUNCEMENTS. DAVID GAINES. THANKS MAYOR. UH, WE'LL START WITH OCTOBERFEST AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO'S IN THE ROOM RIGHT NOW FOR NAVIGATING THE TRAFFIC. UH, OUR APOLOGIES FOR THE FENCING THAT'S AROUND THE PARK AND THE STREET CLOSURES AROUND THE CONFERENCE CENTER, BUT WE ARE GETTING READY TO HOST OCTOBER FEST THIS WEEKEND. WE HOPE EVERYONE WILL JOIN US ON THURSDAY NIGHT FOR THE OFFICIAL KEG TAPPING CEREMONY. THE EVENT RUNS THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, AND YOU CAN FIND ALL THE DETAILS ON ADDISON OCTOBER FEST.COM. WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL THERE. NEXT WE HAVE A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE ROLLING OUT CITY. SEE IF I CAN SAY THIS CORRECTLY. CITY SIPS AND SCOOPS BEGINNING THIS MONTH, THE TOWN WILL BE HOSTING MONTHLY CITY [00:45:01] SIPS AND SCOOPS EVENTS WHERE ADDISON STAFF AND OR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY WITH UPDATES ON ADDISON PROJECTS, EVENTS, AND MATTERS OF INTEREST. WE INVITE YOU TO JOIN US FOR OUR FIRST EVENT TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH AT 8:30 AM AT TOASTED YOLK ON BELTLINE ROAD. FINALLY, OUR ICE CREAM SOCIAL, UH, THE DART, DART AND WEST WESTERN HERZOG SILVER LINE CONSTRUCTION TEAM. AND, AND THE, IN THE WEST, IN THE ARCHER WESTERN HERZOG SILVER LINE CONSTRUCTION TEAM IS HOSTING AN ICE CREAM SOCIAL ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH AT 5:00 PM IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK TO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION UPDATES AND ANSWER THE COMMUNITY'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RAIL PROJECT. THOSE ARE ALL THE UPDATES FOR ME, [b. Employee Recognition] MAYOR. NEXT WE HAVE EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION. I, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR C F O STEVEN GLICKMAN TO MAKE OUR FIRST EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION. STEVEN, YOU WANNA MIC ON? SORRY ABOUT THAT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. STEVEN GLICKMAN, UH, C F O. UH, I'M PLEASED THIS EVENING TO INTRODUCE KRISTEN SOLARIS. UH, KRISTEN WORKS IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. SHE'S OUR BUDGET MANAGER. UH, TONIGHT IS HER BIG NIGHT. IT'S HER SUPER BOWL. SO WE HAVE OUR BUDGET ADOPTION AND ALL, ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING. UH, SO KRISTEN'S BEEN WORKING WITH THE TOWN SINCE, UH, AUGUST OF 2019. UH, SHE WAS BORN IN ANCHORAGE, ALASKA, UH, ON ELMENDORF AIR FORCE BASE, BUT SHE GREW UP IN WEST TEXAS. UH, KRISTEN HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION FROM U N T GO MEAN GREEN AND AN M B A FROM TEXAS WOMAN'S UNIVERSITY. UH, SHE'S THE FIRST, UH, PERSON IN HER FAMILY TO GRADUATE WITH THE MASTER'S DEGREE AND SHE GRADUATED DEBT FREE. THAT'S AMAZING. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KRISTEN'S MOST PROUD OF IS HER FAMILY. UH, SHE HAS A HUSBAND, MIGUEL AND A FRENCH BULLDOG, UH, NAMED JACKS. UH, SHE'S A PROUD AUNT OF HER NIECE AND TWO NEPHEWS, AND SHE COMES FROM A FAMILY OF STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES. AND SHE HAS TWO SISTERS AND A BROTHER-IN-LAW THAT WORK IN THE, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT FINANCE FIELD. UH, SO IN HER FREE TIME, SHE LIKES TO TRAVEL AND SHE PLANS TO GO TO ALASKA WITH HER HUSBAND NEXT YEAR. UH, THEN SHE HOPES TO VISIT JAPAN, UH, SCOTLAND AND ITALY. UH, KRISTEN DECIDED TO JOIN THE ADDISON TEAM, UH, BECAUSE SHE WAS ENCOURAGED BY THE, THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT MANY FORMER EMPLOYEES SHARED WITH HER ABOUT THE TOWN. UH, SHE WAS ATTRACTED TO THE LONGSTANDING TRADITION OF FINANCIAL REPORTING EXCELLENCE AND STRONG FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT THAT THE TOWN HAS. UH, BEING A GOOD STEWARD OF PUBLIC RESOURCES O IS ONLY PART OF WHAT THE ADDISON WAY MEANS TO KRISTEN. UH, SHE, SHE SAYS IT ALSO MEANS BUILDING TRUST WITH CUSTOMERS BY CONSISTENTLY MEETING AND EXCEEDING EXPECTATIONS. SO PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING KRISTEN. THANK YOU, KRISTEN. AND THANKS FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THE BUDGET FOR YOUR SUPER BOWL TODAY. NEXT WE HAVE JOEL JENKINSON, OUR AIRPORT DIRECTOR, AND THANK YOU STEVEN FOR LEAVING THE MICROPHONE ON. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M JOEL JENKINSON, THE AIRPORT DIRECTOR, AND IT IS MY PLEASURE TO TONIGHT TO INTRODUCE, UH, OUR NEWEST MEMBER OF THE TEAM. NOLA SAMUELS WORKS AT THE ADDISON AIRPORT AS AN AIRPORT MANAGEMENT ASSISTANT. SINCE JULY 10TH, 2023, NOLA GREW UP IN RIVERSIDE, CALIFORNIA, THE INLAND EMPIRE, AND ATTENDED CALIFORNIA BAPTIST UNIVERSITY. WHILE SHE DOES NOT HAVE A FAVORITE SPORTS TEAM, NOLA IS LOOKING FORWARD TO LEARNING HOW TO GOLF, AND SHE ALSO HAS HER OWN PERSONAL PHOTOGRAPHY AND VIDEOGRAPHY STUDIO SET UP. IN ADDITION TO HER HOBBIES, NOLA HAS WON MANY DANCE COMPETITIONS OVER THE YEARS, AND SHE HAS EVEN COMPLETED HER FIRST SOLO FLIGHT IN AN AIRCRAFT AS PILOT OF WHICH SHE IS MOST PROUD. NOLA SAYS SHE JUST COULDN'T SAY NO TO COMING TO TEXAS WHEN SHE BEGAN HER HUNT FOR NEW OPPORTUNITIES AFTER GRADUATION. NOT ONLY DOES SHE THINK IT IS A WONDERFUL STATE, BUT IT'S ALSO FULL OF VARIOUS BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES THAT SHE WAS LOOKING FOR. SHE LOOKS FORWARD TO BOTH EXPANDING HER KNOWLEDGE AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE TOWN IN MANY WAYS. WHILE NOLA IS OUR NEWEST AIRPORT EMPLOYEE, SHE TRULY EXEMPLIFIES THE DEPARTMENTAL AND ORGANIZATIONAL VALUES THAT WE HAVE. WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE ADDISON WAY, SHE SAYS THAT IT MEANS TO NOT JUST SELFLESSLY SERVE OTHERS, BUT TO DO SO EFFECTIVELY. PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING NOLA. THANK YOU, JOEL NOLA. THANK YOU KRISTEN. AND STEVEN. THANKS EVERYBODY. ALRIGHT, WE WILL [2. Public Comment. The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to Public Hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.] [00:50:01] GO TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, PUBLIC COMMENTS. THIS IS WHERE THE CITIZENS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. YOU CAN SPEAK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT OR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. AND, UH, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE IN A LATER PUBLIC HEARING, THEN UH, YOU'LL, UH, YOU CAN WAIT FOR THAT TIME. BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING, UH, OUTSIDE OF THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS FOR THIS PARTICULAR SEGMENT, BUT IF SOMEBODY HAS NOT FILLED OUT A CARD, YOU'D STILL LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO. 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Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request to rezone 10.1± acres generally located at the southeast corner of Belt Line Road and Surveyor Boulevard, from Planned Development (PD) to the Belt Line District, to allow a mixed use development comprised of multifamily residential and live/work dwelling units (apartment complex), townhomes (single-family unit, attached), restaurant and retail uses, and associated private open space and common areas, through the approval of a concept plan and associated major waiver requests related to block length, 4th floor building façade setback, freestanding restaurant building height, building entry and parking structure design requirements. Case 1877-Z/Trammell Crow Mixed Use.] AND WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC HEARINGS. ITEM FOUR A IS OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO REZONE 10.1 ACRES, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF BELTLINE AND SURVEYOR BOULEVARD. FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD TO THE BELTLINE DISTRICT TO ALLOW A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT COMPRISED OF MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND LIVE WORK DWELLING UNITS, APARTMENT COMPLEX TOWN HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY UNIT, ATTACHED RESTAURANT AND RETAIL USES AND ASSOCIATED PRIVATE OPEN SPACE AND COMMON AREAS THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF A CONCEPT PLAN. AND ASSOCIATED MAJOR WAIVER REQUESTS RELATED TO BLOCK LENGTH, FOURTH FLOOR BUILDING, FACADE, SETBACK, FREESTANDING RESTAURANT BUILDING, HEIGHT, BUILDING ENTRY, AND PARKING STRUCTURE. DESIGN REQUIREMENTS CASE 1877 DASH Z TRAMMELL CROW MIXED USE. KEN. GOOD EVENING. MARION CITY COUNCIL. KEN SCHMIDT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THE TOWN USE AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE 10.1 ACRE SUBJECT PROPERTY DATES BACK TO 1978, UH, WHEN THE SITE WAS INITIALLY ZONED, UH, TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THE FIRST BUILDING, UH, THE TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDING, UH, WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1983, UH, WITH THE LATE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES. UH, TWO, UH, RESTAURANT, UH, EVENT SLASH EVENT VENUE. BUILDINGS WERE CONSTRUCTED, UH, NOW KNOWN AS, UH, VENUE, UH, UH, AND THEN ALSO, UH, THE BACK NINE. AND THEN THE SURFACE PARKING LOT ADJACENT TO THE OFFICE BUILDING, UH, WAS EXPANDED IN 1995. UH, THE FINAL BUILDING CONSTRUCTED ON THE SITE, UH, IS THE, UH, BANK AT THE CORNER OF SURVEYOR, UH, AND BELTLINE, UH, WHICH WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 2005 AND HAS BEEN VACANT SINCE 2020. UM, WITH THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT, UH, TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY, HAS PRESENTED A CONCEPT PLAN, UH, COMPRISED OF, UH, SEVERAL DEVELOPMENT COMPONENTS. THE FIRST BEING A FOUR AND FIVE STORY, UH, MIXED USE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING. UH, THAT INCLUDES 394 MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING UNITS AND NINE LIVE WORK UNITS, UH, COMPRISED OF TWO LEVELS. AND THEN WITHIN THAT BUILDING ALSO IN ADDITION TO AMENITY SPACE, THEY HAVE 12,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL AND RESTAURANT SPACE. UH, AT THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE SITE, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED A RESTAURANT PLAZA COMPRISED OF THREE FREESTANDING BUILDINGS COMPRISING 7,000 SQUARE FEET. AND IN THE SOUTHERN QUADRANT OF THE SITE, UH, THEY PROPOSE A PHASE OF TOWN HOMES, UH, COMPRISED OF 25 3 STORY OWNERSHIP TOWN HOMES, UM, THAT GENERALLY ORIENT AROUND, UH, SOME OPEN SPACE. UH, WITHIN THIS SITE, THE APPLICANT'S PROVIDING 2.2 ACRES OF PRIVATE LANDSCAPE AREA, WHICH INCLUDES THAT PRIVATE PARK AS WELL AS DOG PARK AT THE EASTERN QUADRANT OF THE SITE. AND WITH THIS BEING A MIXED USE PROJECT, UH, WITH A MIXED USE PARKING DEMAND, THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDED A PARKING STRUCTURE, UH, COMPRISED OF 635 SPACES, 130 OF WHICH WILL BE RESERVED FOR RETAIL, AND THEN OVERALL 740 PARKING SPACES ON THE SITE WHEN YOU ACCOUNT FOR SURFACE PARKING AND GARAGE PARKING. SO, UH, THIS IS A PHASE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. UH, IT INCLUDES TWO PHASES. THE FIRST PHASE COMPRISES THE BULK OF THE DEVELOPMENT. IT INCLUDES ALL THE SITE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, AS WELL AS THE MIXED USE, MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING, AND THEN THE RESTAURANT PLAZA. THE SECOND PHASE WILL INCLUDE THE TOWN HOMES, UM, WITH THAT RESTAURANT PLAZA. UH, THE APPLICANT IS PARTNERING WITH REISS, A RETAIL ACTIVATION [00:55:01] DEVELOPER AND CONSULTANT, UH, THAT WILL HELP, UH, DRIVE, UH, APPROPRIATE AND, UH, UNIQUE, UH, RETAIL AND RESTAURANT CONCEPTS TO THIS PROJECT. UH, FOR THE TOWN HOME PHASE, YOU'LL HAVE LATER ON YOUR AGENDA A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT PROVIDES FOR ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS, UH, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE TOWN HOMES AS WELL, THAT PROVIDES THE TOWN SOME SURETY AND THE EVENTS THAT, UH, THE MARKET, UH, IS SLOW TO DEVELOP FOR THOSE FEE SIMPLE TOWN HOMES. SO, UH, PARKING, UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, THE, UH, ZONING DISTRICT, UH, THAT APPLIES TO THIS REQUEST. THE BELTLINE ZONING DISTRICT, UH, PROVIDES FOR PARKING REQUIREMENTS. AND WITH THIS PROPOSAL, THE APPLICANT IS COMPLYING WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THROUGH THE, UH, MIXED USE GARAGE PARKING AND SURFACE PARKING AND TOWN HOME GARAGE PARKING, AND IS EXCEEDING THE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS BY 29 SPACES. UH, WITH THESE BEING PRIVATE STREETS, THE APPLICANT WILL BE, UH, MAINTAINING THOSE STREETS, BUT ALSO MANAGING PARKING ON THE SITE TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THERE ARE NO, UH, UH, DISRUPTIVE PARKING CONDITIONS ON THE SITE. OPEN SPACE, UH, LANDSCAPE, UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, ONCE AGAIN IS PROVIDING, UH, 2.2 ACRES OF PRIVATE LANDSCAPE. AND ALSO A KEY COMPONENT OF THIS MIXED USE PROJECT IS PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. UH, AT THE BELTLINE FRONTAGE YOU HAVE A 10 FOOT TRAIL, AND THEN AT THE SURVEYOR BOULEVARD FRONTAGE, YOU HAVE A VARIABLE WITH TRAIL THAT RANGES FROM SIX TO 10 FEET. UH, THAT ACCOUNTS FOR, UH, A SMALLER TRAIL SECTION WHERE THERE WAS NEEDED TREE PRESERVATION. AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE SITE YOU HAVE LOOPED SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS THAT, UH, COUNT FOR A HIGHLY WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT, UH, WHICH IS NECESSARY FOR A MIX USE PROJECT LIKE THIS. UH, THE PROPOSED FACADES, UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S A, UH, THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING IS A, UH, SPLIT BUILDING. SO AT THE FRONTAGE OF BELTLINE, UH, IT ACCOMMODATES A FIVE STORY FRONTAGE. UH, MUCH OF THAT IS A, UH, TWO STORY IN HEIGHT, UM, NOT IN STORIES, BUT UH, IN GREATER HEIGHT. UH, SO 20 FOOT GROUND FLOOR CEILING HEIGHTS FOR THE COMMERCIAL AND AMENITY SPACE. AND THEN WITH THE LIVE WORK UNITS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THAT BUILDING, YOU HAVE A TWO LEVEL UNIT, UH, WHERE THE LIVE SPACE IS SEPARATED FROM THE WORKSPACE. UM, SO JUST TO, UH, FAMILIARIZE, UH, THAT HEIGHT AND PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE, UM, LIVE WORK BUILDINGS BEING BUILT ON BELTLINE ROAD CURRENTLY FOR THE ADDISON GROVE PROJECT, UH, THOSE ARE, UH, JUST OVER 50 FEET IN HEIGHT. SO THE FOUR STORY SECTION OF THIS BUILDING, WHICH STARTS 110 FEET OFF OF BELTLINE ROAD, IS SHORTER THAN THAT. BUT THE FIVE STORY SECTION OF THIS BUILDING, UH, WHICH FRONTS BELTLINE ROAD, IS ABOUT 10 FEET TALLER THAN THAT. SO DEFINITELY, UH, COMPARABLE IN SCALE AND CONTEXT WITH, UH, SOME OF THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST. UM, WITH THIS, UH, UH, PROPOSED FACADE DESIGN, UH, THE APPLICANT PROVIDES, UH, ARTICULATION, UH, THROUGH A BUILDING STEP BACK AT THE BELTLINE FRONTAGE. UH, SO IT STEP BACKS STEPS BACK SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, AT THE MIDPOINT OF THE BUILDING. UH, THAT'S TO ACCOMMODATE SOME, UH, ON STREET PARKING, UH, FOR THE, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, SURFACE PARKING FOR THE RETAIL USES. AND THEN ALSO IT PROVIDES ARTICULATION THROUGH THE, UH, BALCONIES AND, UM, UH, THIRD FLOOR, UH, TERRACE AREA THAT IS PROVIDED AT THAT, UH, FRONTAGE. SO WITH THE PROPOSED, UH, RESTAURANT PLAZA, UH, ALL OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE SINGLE STORY BUILDINGS, GENERALLY 20 TO 30 IN HEIGHT. UH, KEY COMPONENT OF THAT, UH, FACADE DESIGN IS THAT THIS IS INTENDED TO BE AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE GATHER AND SOCIALIZE A SOCIAL SPACE. IN ADDITION TO THE RESTAURANT SPACES, THERE'S A LOT OF CIVIC SPACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND HANG OUT. UM, BUT KEY TO THE RESTAURANTS WAS ENSURING THAT EACH ONE HAD PATIO SPACE, AND THAT'S ACCOMMODATED HERE. ALSO, YOU'LL SEE WITH THE FACADE DESIGN, THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF GLAZING, UH, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A GOOD CONNECTION, UH, BETWEEN THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR SPACE OF THOSE, UH, RESTAURANT BUILDINGS. WITH THE TOWN HOMES, UH, THESE ARE THREE STORY BUILDINGS, UH, JUST OVER 40 FEET IN HEIGHT, UH, PROMINENT MASONRY, UH, AT THE FRONTAGE, UH, EACH TOWN HOME UNIT WILL HAVE, UH, A GROUND FLOOR COURTYARD, UH, AND, UH, AT THE, UH, SECOND LEVEL THEY'LL HAVE SOME, UH, BALCONIES TO PROVIDE FOR, UH, ARTICULATION AS WELL. YOU'LL ALSO SEE, UH, MODIFICATIONS TO THE ROOT FORM, UH, THROUGHOUT [01:00:01] THE FACADE TO PROVIDE ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL AND INTEREST. UH, SO WITH THE PROPOSED UNIT MIX FOR THIS PROJECT, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, UM, UH, WITH THE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING, ROUGHLY 75%, UH, ONE BEDROOM UNITS WITH THE REMAINDER BEING TWO AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS, AS WELL AS THE NINE LIVE WORK UNITS. THE MINIMUM UNIT SIZE FOR THOSE ONE BEDROOM UNITS WOULD BE 623 SQUARE FEET, AND THE MAXIMUM UNIT SIZE FOR ALL THE UNITS WOULD BE, UH, JUST UNDER 1500 SQUARE FEET. UH, THE TOWN HOME, UH, UNIT SIZES WOULD BE DETERMINED BY AN EVENTUAL TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT PARTNER, UM, CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE TREAT OTHER MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS. THE APPLICANT IS PURSUING, UH, GREEN, UH, BUILDING DESIGN, UM, UH, STANDARDS, IN THIS CASE THE NATIONAL GREEN BUILDING STANDARDS. THEY'RE SEEKING SILVER CERTIFICATION AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING IT FOR ENHANCED INTERIOR FINISHES, UH, RECYCLING SERVICES. THEN ALSO A MINIMUM OF 30 ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS WITHIN THAT PARKING STRUCTURE. SO ANYTIME THE TOWN, UH, RECEIVES A REZONING REQUEST, UH, WE REVIEW IT AGAINST TOWN POLICIES. IN THIS CASE, THE MOST PROMINENT TOWN POLICIES ARE THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, THE BELTLINE REDEVELOPMENT VISION, UH, THE BELTLINE DISTRICT, AND THEN ALSO ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE AND AMENITY PLANS THAT APPLY TOWN WIDE. AND THEN ALSO THE ADDISON HOUSING POLICY OF 2017. SO I'LL START WITH THE BELTLINE CORRIDOR VISION. THIS WAS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE TOWN IN 2006. IT WAS, UH, DONE TO ESTABLISH A REDEVELOPMENT VISION, UH, FOR THE BELTLINE CORRIDOR. UH, THAT PLAN CALLED TO REINVENT THE CORRIDOR TO BE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, ATTRACT YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AND EMPTY NESTERS, AND TO COMBINE ENHANCED STREET SCAPE AND HOUSING WITH SMALLER BLOCKS TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT IS REGIONALLY UNIQUE THAT'LL ATTRACT CONTINUING REINVESTMENT OVER THE LONG TERM. WITH THAT VISION, IT ADAPTED, IT ADOPTED SUBDISTRICTS AND APPLIED THOSE SUBDISTRICTS TO THE ENTIRE BELTLINE CORRIDOR FROM VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY AND PRESTONWOOD PLACE TO THE EAST, UH, TO MARSH LANE TO THE WEST. THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY WAS DESIGNATED THE LAY LOCK VILLAGE SUBDISTRICT, UH, WHICH CALLED FOR A MIXED USE RETAIL, RESIDENTIAL, AND OFFICE DISTRICT. UH, THIS DISTRICT ALSO CALLS FOR A HIGH DEGREE OF WALKABILITY. SO AS PROPERTIES REDEVELOP, UH, PROVIDING FOR PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES AND PROVIDING FOR CONNECTIVITY OF THINGS SUCH AS THE REDDING TRAIL WAS VERY CRITICAL. UH, NEXT I'M GONNA ADDRESS THE 2013 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THIS ESSENTIALLY CARRIED FORWARD, UH, MUCH OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PREVIOUS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS WELL AS THE BELTLINE REDEVELOPMENT VISION. UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA, UH, INCLUSIVE OF THE AREA BETWEEN MIDWAY ROAD AND SURVEYOR BOULEVARD. THAT AREA WAS IDENTIFIED AS A POSSIBLE FUTURE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT SAYS ADDISON SHOULD CONSIDER MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AS A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE OF SECTIONS OF THE TOWN FACE REDEVELOPMENT. AND IT NOTED THAT SEVERAL LOCATIONS ALONG BELTLINE ROAD WOULD LEND THEMSELVES TO MIXED EAST DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS PROPERTY WAS INCLUDED IN THAT RECOMMENDATION. AND FINALLY, UH, THE BELTLINE DISTRICT, SO THIS IS THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING. THIS IS A FLOATING FORM-BASED ZONING DISTRICT THAT THE TOWN ADOPTED CONCURRENTLY TO THE BELTLINE DEVELOP REDEVELOPMENT VISION IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THE BELTLINE REDEVELOPMENT VISION. SO THAT'S, THAT'S KEY. NOT ONLY DID THE TOWN ADOPT A POLICY, WE ADOPTED A PERMANENT ZONING IMPLEMENTATION TOOL TO IMPLEMENT THAT POLICY. SO MUCH OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE BELTLINE REDEVELOPMENT VISION IS ALSO ADDRESSED IN THIS DISTRICT. UH, TAUGHT SPEAKS TO PROVIDING A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL, RETAIL AND OFFICE USES IN A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT, PROVIDING A COMFORTABLE AND ATTRACTIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CONSTRUCTING BUILDINGS CLOSE TO THE SIDEWALK AND THE STREET. VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS PROPOSAL. MOST NOTABLY, UH, THAT DISTRICT ALSO ADOPTED A, UM, UH, TABLE OF PERMITTED LAND USES. SO IN THE LAY LOCKED VILLAGE SUBDISTRICT, WHICH IS WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS, UH, DESIGNATED AS IT PERMITS ALL OF THE NOTED RESIDENTIAL USES BY WRIGHT IN THAT DISTRICT. SO THAT INCLUDES APARTMENTS, THAT INCLUDES TOWN HOMES, LIVE WORK UNITS, ALL THE RESIDENTIAL USES INCLUDED IN THIS PROPOSAL WERE PERMITTED BY WRIGHT IN THIS DISTRICT. SO NEXT I WANT TO ADDRESS THE ADDISON HOUSING POLICY. WE'VE, UH, DISCUSSED THIS IN GREAT DETAIL OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR, MOST NOTABLY IN THE FEBRUARY TOWN HALL MEETING. UH, THIS POLICY WAS, UH, [01:05:01] ADOPTED THROUGH AN AMENDMENT TO A, A PREVIOUS POLICY, UH, IN 2017, ADDRESSING THE TOWN'S ASPIRATIONAL GOALS FOR INCREASING, UH, THE AMOUNT OF FEE SIMPLE HOUSING IN ADDISON. UH, WITH THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST, UH, THIS PLAN DOES NOT INCREASE THE PROPORTION OF FEE SYMBOL OWNERSHIP IN ADDISON, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IN OTHER PROJECTS. WITH THIS BEING A VERY LARGE SITE ON A, UH, FORMER COMMERCIAL SITE AT A MAJOR CORRIDOR FRONTAGE, THIS SITE IS SOMEWHAT CHALLENGING FOR IT TO BE, UH, CONSIDERED FOR A LARGE, UH, FEE SIMPLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. UH, IT ALREADY HAS TWO EXISTING FEE SIMPLE PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN THE PIPE OR IN THE PIPELINE AT ADDISON GROVE AND COBALT HOMES, WHERE THERE'S 151 LOTS AVAILABLE, UH, AT LEAST ONCE COBALT HOMES IS READY AS WELL, THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO COMPETE WITH. UM, SO GIVEN THAT, AND GIVEN THE CHALLENGING MARKET WE'VE SEEN FOR CONDO DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA, UH, WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THE GOAL OF INCREASING THE PROPORTION OF FEE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP ON THIS PROPERTY IS VIABLE AT THE CURRENT TIME. UM, WE DO THINK THAT THE, UM, PROPOSED 25 OWNERSHIP TOWNHOME UNITS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS PLAN REFLECT A, AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF FEE, SIMPLE HOUSING THAT THE MARKET CAN SUPPORT AND THAT WILL ACTUALLY GET BUILT IF A PROJECT MOVE FORWARD. UM, WE DO FEEL THAT THIS PROJECT DOES COMPLY WITH THE ADDISON HOUSING POLICY AND THAT IT IS A TRUE MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT. IT PROVIDES FOR HOUSING RENTAL AND OWNERSHIP. IT PROVIDES FOR, UH, WALKABLE STREET NETWORK, IT PROVIDES FOR URBAN OPEN SPACES, AND IT PROVIDES FOR A MIX OF COMMERCIAL USES AS WELL, MOST NOTABLY THE RESTAURANT PLAZA. SO WITH THAT, WE FEEL THAT THIS IS AN EXCEPTIONAL PROJECT AS COMPARED TO OTHER MIXED USE PROJECTS WE'VE SEEN AT THIS SCALE, AND THAT IT IS A TRUE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND PROVIDES FOR A MODEL MIX OF USES FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN ADDISON. SO ALSO IN THIS HOUSING DISCUSSION, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF DATA ANALYSIS IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR MIX IS, WHAT IT'S BEEN HISTORICALLY, WHAT IT IS NOW, AND WHAT IT'S PROJECTED TO BE MOVING FORWARD. CURRENTLY, WE ARE AT ROUGHLY A 79% RENTAL TO 21% OWNERSHIP HOUSING MIX WITH WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED. UH, AND ZONED THOUGH IS NOT NECESSARILY IMMINENT TO DEVELOP THE OWNERSHIP TO HOUSING. UH, OWNERSHIP TO RENTAL MIX FOR HOUSING IS 83% TO 17%, UH, RENTAL TO OWNERSHIP. IF YOU ALSO CONSIDERED THIS, UH, IT WOULD JUMP FROM 82.9% TO 83.2%. SO A 0.3% INCREASE WHEN YOU ACCOUNT FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN APPROVED TO THIS POINT. UH, NOT NECESSARILY BUILT, BUT THEN ALSO THIS PROJECT. UM, SO WITH THIS DISCUSSION, WE TALK ABOUT THE VITRUVIAN DEVELOPMENT A LOT. UH, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS AT P N Z, THAT PROJECT AND THE BUILD OUT OF THAT PROJECT REPRESENTS MOST OF WHAT YOU SEE IN THE APPROVED COLUMN FOR, UH, ADDISON. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S ALL GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. SOME OF IT MAY HAPPEN IN THE FIVE YEARS, A FRACTION OF IT, BUT MUCH OF THAT DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO OCCUR 10 TO 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. IT'S A VERY LONG-TERM PROJECT, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT OF THE EXISTING MULTI-FAMILY IN THE VITRUVIAN AREA. UM, ALSO, UH, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE SAM'S CLUB STUDY AND THE, UH, AMWAY TREE HOUSE PROJECT, WE LOOKED AT THE HOUSING MIX IN THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING AREA, AND YOU SEE WITH WHAT EXISTS NOW AND IF THIS PROJECT WERE GONNA BE APPROVED, YOU SEE A VERY BALANCED MIX OF HOUSING, UH, CURRENTLY. UM, IF, UH, ACTUALLY YOU ACCOUNTED FOR APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT, IT WOULD BE 54% OWNERSHIP AND 46% MULTIFAMILY RENTAL. UH, THAT, UH, COUNTS FOR WHAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE IN A MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD, AN AREA LIKE THIS. SO WITH THIS PROPOSAL, STAFF ALSO ANALYZES THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS OF A PARTICULAR REQUEST. AND WITH THIS, UH, THE FIRST IMPACT, UH, WE LOOKED AT WAS TRAFFIC. ANYTIME YOU INCREASE THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN AREA, PARTICULARLY WHEN THAT AREA IS UNDERUTILIZED, THERE IS OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. SO WITH THIS PROPOSAL, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UH, THAT LOOKED AT THE ACCESS POINTS ASSOCIATED [01:10:01] WITH THE PROJECT, AND THEN ALSO HOW TRAFFIC WAS DISTRIBUTED, UH, UH, THROUGH THE PROJECT AND OUT TO THE SURROUNDING TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. UM, WITH THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST, UH, WE, WE ALSO FOCUSED ON IMPACT ON THE BELTWAY DRIVE CORRIDORS. THAT HAS BEEN FREQUENTLY BEEN A POINT OF DISCUSSION WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT OTHER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN THIS AREA. ULTIMATELY, UH, THE T I A IDENTIFIED THERE TO BE MINOR ISSUES, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT, BUT NOTHING THAT REQUIRED ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS OR ADDITIONAL MITIGATION. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE APPLICANT STILL ULTIMATELY ELECTED BASED ON COMMUNITY FEEDBACK TO PROVIDE FOR, UH, IMPROVEMENTS ALONG SURVEYOR BOULEVARD, SPECIFICALLY A DIVIDED MEDIAN AND, UH, TURNING, UH, ACCESS POINT THAT ALLOWS AND FORCES PEOPLE TO GO NORTH AS THEY LEAVE THIS SITE. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SITE AND ITS, UH, RELATION TO THIS AREA, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE LAND USE COMPATIBILITY AND HOW THAT RELATES TO THIS SITE AND HOW IT DISTRIBUTES TRAFFIC FROM THIS SITE. SO THIS IS A, A MULTIFAMILY AND RESTAURANT AND OWNERSHIP HOUSING DEVELOPMENT TO ITS SOUTH. IT HAS, UH, ADJACENT, UM, CONDOS TWO AND THREE STORY DEVELOPMENT TO ITS WEST. IT HAS OFFICE TO ITS EAST, IT HAS RESTAURANT HOTELS, TOWN HOMES, MORE MULTIFAMILY FURTHER TO THE WEST. IT HAS TOWN HOMES FURTHER TO THE SOUTH. IT HAS SINGLE FAMILY. SO THERE'S A TRANSITION IN THIS SITE IN LAND USE, BUT IT'S ACCESS AND ITS LOCATION IN THE AREA IN ADDISON REALLY PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THIS TRAFFIC ISN'T BEING ALL FUNNELED. ALL OF THE DEMAND OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT BEING FUNNELED IN ONE DIRECTION. IT'S REALLY GONNA BE DISTRIBUTED. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA GONNA GO WEST TOWARDS D F W AIRPORT, SOME PEOPLE THAT WILL GO NORTH TOWARDS PLANO. SOME PEOPLE THEY'LL GO EAST TOWARDS RICHARDSON AND SOME PEOPLE THAT WILL GO SOUTH TOWARDS, UH, DALLAS AND ALONG MIDWAY ROAD. SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT BELTWAY, I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A DISCUSSION THAT THIS PROJECT WILL NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON BELTWAY. IT WILL HAVE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ON BELTWAY, BUT IT WON'T BE AT A VOLUME THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE OR INCONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT VOLUME AND TRAFFIC CONDITIONS ON BELTWAY. AND THE APPLICANT HAS DONE SOME THINGS TO FURTHER MITIGATE THAT. WHAT I WOULD SAY AND WHAT WE FREQUENTLY DISCUSS ON BELTWAY IS THAT IT'S MORE OF A STREET DESIGN AND DRIVER BEHAVIORAL ISSUE. IT'S A VERY WIDE COMFORTABLE STREET, AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON IT. SO IT'S VERY COMFORTABLE FOR PEOPLE TO DRIVE QUICKLY ON. THAT IS WHERE THE ISSUES COME UP. IT'S NOT A VOLUME ISSUE. WE'RE GONNA BE ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE ISSUES WITH OTHER PROJECTS SUCH AS THE BIKE LANE PROJECT AND CONTINUED PUBLIC EDUCATION AND ENFORCEMENT ON BELTWAY. BUT ANY VOLUME THAT OF TRAFFIC THAT COMES FROM THIS PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE CONDITION DRAMATICALLY ON BELTWAY. IT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING CONDITION ON BELTWAY. SO, AS I MENTIONED HERE IS THAT, UM, MEDIAN, UH, THAT WILL FORCE PEOPLE LEAVING THIS PROJECT TO GO NORTH, UH, INSTEAD OF GOING SOUTH ON BELTWAY. AND THEN ALSO A THING TO CONSIDER WITH THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT IS THE PARKING STRUCTURE. SO THEY'VE DESIGNED THE PARKING STRUCTURE IN A WAY WHERE THE MOST COMPETE CONVENIENT ACCESS TO GET TO THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING IS FROM BELTLINE. AND THEN ALSO THE RUNYON ROAD ACCESS, UH, THAT ALSO COMES FROM BELTLINE. SO OTHER MITIGATION IMPACTS INCLUDE TREE PRESERVATION. UH, YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT WENT TO GREAT EFFORT TO PRESERVE TREES, PARTICULARLY AT ITS FRONTAGE. UH, ROUGHLY 50% OF THE EXISTING TREES ON SITE WILL BE PRESERVED AT LEAST THE, THE CALIPER INCHES. UM, AND MOST NOTABLY, UH, THEY WENT TO GREAT EFFORT ALONG SURVEYOR BOULEVARD, WHERE THEY SET THE BUILDING BACK AN ADDITIONAL, UH, DEPTH IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THOSE EXISTING MATURE TREES. UM, THERE ARE NO OTHER ENCUMBRANCES THAT ARE KNOWN AT THIS TIME. THERE IS, UH, UTILITIES AVAILABLE TO THIS SITE, AND WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE ISSUES WITH SERVICE OF THIS SITE BY DALLAS, I S D. THEY WILL HAVE SOME DRAINAGE CONDITIONS TO ADDRESS WITH THE DETENTION DESIGNED FOR THE PROJECT. SO WITH THE BELTLINE ZONING DISTRICT, IT'S A FORM-BASED DISTRICT THAT, UM, ALLOWS FOR FLEXIBILITY, PARTICULARLY IN A REDEVELOPMENT CONDITION SUCH AS THIS, UH, THROUGH WHAT WE CALL MINOR AND MAJOR WAIVERS. MINOR WAIVERS ARE ITEMS [01:15:01] THAT ARE MINOR DEVIATIONS FROM THE CODE THAT ARE ADDRESSED BY TOWN STAFF THROUGH THE SECOND STEP OF THIS PROCESS, WHICH IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS. THIS FIRST STEP, THE CONCEPT PLAN REVIEW IS THE ZONING ACTION FOR THIS PROJECT, AND ANY MAJOR WAIVER HAS TO BE ACTED ON BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. SO THIS PROPOSAL INCLUDES FIVE MAJOR WAIVERS ADDRESSING BLOCK LENGTH, FOURTH FLOOR BUILDING, STEP BACK AT THE SURVEYOR, FRONTAGE, UH, STOOP CONDITIONS FOR GROUND FLOOR RESIDENTIAL ENTRIES, MINIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR THE NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, AND THEN PARKING STRUCTURED DESIGN. UM, I'LL START WITH BLOCK LENGTH. UM, SO, UH, WITH THAT, UM, UH, CONSIDERATION, UH, IT REQUIRES A MAXIMUM BLOCK LENGTH OF 600 FEET. UH, THE APPLICANT DOES EXCEED THIS SLIGHTLY AT THE BELTLINE FRONTAGE. HOWEVER, UH, STAFF DOES SUPPORT, UH, THIS REQUEST FOR MAJOR WAIVER, UH, BECAUSE THE APPLICANT COULD COMPLY WITH IT, IT COULD DESIGN AROUND THAT, BUT IT WOULD RESULT IN A, UH, LOWER QUALITY DESIGN. SO SPECIFICALLY THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHIFT THE BUILDING CLOSER TO SURVEYOR, WHICH THEY'RE PERMITTED TO DO BY THE BELTLINE ZONING DISTRICT. THEN ALSO, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHIFT ONE OF THE A, THE MIDBLOCK ACCESS DRIVE, WHICH CURRENTLY ALIGNS WITH THE MEDIAN OPENING. AND IF IT DID NOT ALIGN WITH THE MEDIAN OPENING, THAT WOULD BE A, A DETRIMENTAL, UH, TRAFFIC CONSIDERATION FOR THIS PROJECT. SO WHAT THEY PROPOSED IS A BETTER DESIGN AND STAFF DOES SUPPORT APPROVAL OF THAT WAIVER REQUEST. THE SECOND WAIVER REQUEST IS, UH, THE FOURTH FLOOR, UH, BUILDING STEP BACK. SO THE BUILDING, UH, ON THE SURVEYOR SIDE OF THE PROJECT, THE FOURTH FLOOR HAS TO BE STEPPED BACK EIGHT FEET FROM THE PRIMARY FACADE. THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TO ADDRESS LARGER BUILDINGS OF GREATER SCALE THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE STREET TO PROVIDE FOR SOME RELIEF IN LIEU OF PROVIDING THAT STEP BACK AND ALSO TO PRESERVE MORE TREES IN THAT AREA. THE APPLICANT SET BACK THE ENTIRE BUILDING AT THAT LOCATION. SO AT A MINIMUM, THEY DID IT FIVE FEET, BUT IN MOST LOCATIONS ALONG THAT FRONTAGE, THEY DID IT IN, UH, IN EXCESS OF THAT EIGHT FOOT STEP BACK. SO STAFF FEELS THAT THAT IS A BETTER TREATMENT AND ADDRESSES ANY SCALE CONSIDERATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT FRONTAGE. UH, THE THIRD MAJOR WAIVER APPLIES TO THE REQUIRED STOOP CONDITION AT THE GROUND FLOOR RESIDENTIAL ENTRY. UM, SO WITH THAT CONDITION, THE CODE REQUIRES A ELEVATED STOOP, UH, AT LEAST, UH, TWO FEET ABOVE THE SIDEWALK AND 24 SQUARE FEET IN STOOP AREA. IT'S A VERY URBAN CONDITION THAT YOU PRIMARILY SEE WITH MORE OF A ROW HOUSE BROWNSTONE TYPE OF, UH, UH, BUILDING FORM, UH, FOR THESE PARTICULAR BUILDINGS. AND WHAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSES, IT'S AN ENHANCED DESIGN IN THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING AN AT GRADE, BUT THEY'RE PROVIDING FOR A LARGER RESIDENTIAL COURTYARD AND PROVIDING FOR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE. THOSE GROUND FLOOR UNITS ARE PREMIUM UNITS, SO GETTING RID OF THAT STEP, UH, ALSO MAKES THAT MORE VIABLE FOR PEOPLE WITH LIMITED MOBILITY, WHICH IS A PREMIUM CONSIDERATION THAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO, UH, OCCUPY ONE OF THOSE GROUND FLOOR UNITS. THE FOURTH MAJOR WAIVER IS FOR THE MINIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. UH, SO WE DO FEEL THAT THE SINGLE STORY NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ARE UNIQUE AND KEY TO THE RETAIL PROGRAMMING. DOING TWO STORY OR THREE STORY RETAIL BUILDINGS THAT ARE FREESTANDING, UH, WOULD OVERDEVELOP THE SITE AND WOULD, WOULD NOT BE UNIQUE, AND IT WOULD ALSO BE HARD TO MARKET. SO THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE TREATMENT AS WELL. AND THEN THE LAST MAJOR WAIVER IS FOR PARKING STRUCTURE DESIGN. IT CALLS THE CODE CALLS FOR PLAT FLAT PARKING DECKS. UH, I BELIEVE AT THAT TIME IT WAS PRIMARILY TO ADDRESS FREESTANDING PARKING STRUCTURES, WHICH THIS IS NOT. SO THINKING ABOUT CONVERTING FREESTANDING PARKING STRUCTURES IN THE FUTURE AS PARKING DEMAND, UH, REDUCES. UM, AND THAT OBVIOUSLY WOULD NOT HAPPEN HERE AS THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT. SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH TOWN AND STATE REQUIREMENTS, STAFF DID PROVIDE NOTICE TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET AS WELL AS D I S D. UH, 87 NOTICES WENT OUT. WE RECEIVED FOUR RESPONSES IN SUPPORT AND NO RESPONSES AGAINST OR NEUTRAL. UH, WE DID RECEIVE NINE ADDITIONAL LETTERS OF SUPPORT, UH, FOR FOLKS OUTSIDE THAT NOTICE BOUNDARY, AS WELL AS A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE ASBURY CIRCLE, H O A. UM, AT THE AUGUST PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, THE COMMISSION VOTED TO APPROVE IT BY A VOTE OF FIVE TO ONE WITH ONE MEMBER ABSTAINING. SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT WITH THE USE CONDITION SITE AND BUILDING DESIGN CONDITIONS AND DEVELOPMENT PHASING AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT CONDITIONS NOTED IN THE [01:20:01] STAFF REPORT. I'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE THE APPLICANT, TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY IS HERE AS WELL. WELL, ALRIGHT, QUESTIONS AND MAYOR, IF I MAY COUNSEL AND, UH, TRAMBLE CROW, I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF FOR VOTING ON THIS PERSONAL ISSUES IN CONFLICT, BUT GREAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, DAN. QUESTIONS FOR KEN. EILEEN? YEAH, I HAVE ONE. UM, DO YOU HAVE, OR MAYBE YOU CAN ADDRESS THE BIKE LANES THAT ARE GONNA BE ADDED ON BELTWAY AND HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT THIS PROJECT IN ANY WAY? I WOULDN'T SAY IT WOULD IMPACT THIS PROJECT IN ANY WAY OTHER THAN IT BEING AN ENHANCED AMENITY FOR ITS, UH, OCCUPANTS AND TENANTS AND VISITORS. UM, WE DO NOT PROJECT A LOT OF TRAFFIC FROM THIS PROJECT GOING ON BELTWAY. AND WHEN IT DOES, THE BIKE LANES WILL ONLY IMPROVE THAT CONDITION AND THAT IT WILL SERVE AS A TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE FOR ALL TRAFFIC ON BELTWAY. THE QUESTIONS MARLET? UH, MARY? YES, I'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS. UH, KEN, CAN YOU, CAN WE GO BACK TO PAGE 13 OF THE, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? UH, GIMME A SECOND. I'LL GET THERE. OKAY. ON, ON THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN ZOOM THAT, THAT IMAGE OR NOT, BUT, UM, CAN YOU KNOW THIS, THIS YELLOW HERE TO THE LEFT, THAT'S, UH, ON MIDWAY IN BETWEEN SURVEYOR AND MIDWAY AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF, UH, BELTLINE AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BELTLINE. IF, IF THIS WERE TO PASS, DO YOU ENVISION THIS KIND OF DENSITY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BELTLINE IN THIS, IN THIS HIGHLIGHTED AREA? I THINK THE NORTH SIDE OF BELTLINE IS MORE PHYSICALLY CONSTRAINED THIS THAN THIS SITE. IT'S, UH, NOT AS DEEP. UH, YOU DO HAVE, UM, UH, A MORE SHALLOW FRONTAGE AND THAT YOU HAVE A ROADWAY, UH, BEHIND THAT STRIP RETAIL, UH, THAT, UH, WOULD CONSTRAIN, UM, THE, UH, INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT THERE. I THINK YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO SEE ENHANCEMENT OF THE EXISTING PATTERN FOR SOME OF THE STRIP RETAIL. UM, I THINK SOME OF THE LARGER SITES, SUCH AS THE, THE HOSPITALITY OR DEEPER RETAIL SITES COULD BE ATTRACTIVE FOR MIXED USE. BUT I THINK HAVING RESIDENTIAL, UH, ON THAT AREA, WE'D HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT VERY, UH, CAUTIOUSLY IN THAT IT'S A LITTLE ISOLATED FROM OTHER RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN TOWN. OKAY. UM, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE THOUGHT I HAD RELATED TO THAT IS IF I WERE, IF I WERE IN AN APARTMENT, IF I WERE ONE OF THE TENANTS HIGHER UP, LOOKING DOWN MIGHT NOT BE THE MOST ATTRACTIVE VIEW. UM, AND THEN YOU'RE ALSO ALONG BELTLINE. UM, I WAS, I WAS WALKING THE SIDEWALK ALONG BELTLINE MM-HMM. ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY. AND, AND, UM, ALSO ALONG THE REDDING TRAIL AND KIND OF LOOKING AT WIDTH OF THE, OF THE SIDEWALK. AND I KNOW ON THIS, THIS PROJECT, UM, IT'S PROPOSED RIGHT NOW IS A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG BELTLINE. AND, AND WHEN I GO ON EAST OR WEST ON BELTLINE, IT'S, UM, IT'S SEVEN FOOT. AND WHEN I, WHEN I GO TO ADDISON GROVE, IT, IT JUST NARROWS DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO SIX FEET. AND CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, WHY, WHY 10 FEET? IT JUST, I COULDN'T WRAP MY BRAIN AROUND WHY WE WOULD WANT TO GO THAT WIDE. I THINK THE, THE SIDEWALK WIDTH COULD CERTAINLY VARY IN THAT AREA. SIX FEET FOR A SIDEWALK IN A MIXED USE AREA IS PRETTY NARROW. UH, FOR A MIXED USE AREA AND FRONTAGE LIKE THIS, WE WOULD TYPICALLY GO EIGHT TO 10 FEET. UH, I THINK YOU COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT ON THIS SITE IF YOU WANTED TO REDUCE IT TO EIGHT FEET. I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SUGGEST REDUCING IT TO SIX FEET. I THINK THAT WAS NOT AMBITIOUS ENOUGH FOR THE ADDISON GROVE PROJECT. AND IT'S KIND OF AN UNFORTUNATE CONDITION NOW, BUT THAT IS WHAT IT IS. JUST IN GENERAL, IN SUBURBAN CORRIDORS, ABSENT OF, OF THIS AREA, PROBABLY SOME OF THE BIGGEST MISTAKES THAT, THAT CITIES HAVE DONE IN THIS AREA IS NOT HAVE, UM, A, UM, UM, GENEROUS ENOUGH PEDESTRIAN AREA FOR, UH, FOLKS, UH, ON THE SUBURBAN CORRIDORS. SO GENERALLY THE SIDEWALK IS TOO NARROW, IT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE STREET. SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO CORRECT THAT CONDITION WITH THIS SITE. UM, I THINK THE OTHER THING TO NOTE THERE IS THAT THE SIDEWALK IS NOT RIGHT ON THE CURB. THERE'S A LINE OF TREES AND LANDSCAPE [01:25:01] BETWEEN THE CURB AND THE SIDEWALK, AND THAT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL COMFORT FOR THE PEDESTRIAN. SO, UM, COULD IT VARY TO EIGHT FEET? I THINK I'D BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, BUT, UH, SIX FEET I BELIEVE IS TOO NARROW FOR A HUGE BELT LINE. I'M A HUGE FAN OF, IF THIS GOES FORWARD, I'M A HUGE FAN OF EIGHT FEET. THAT'S JUST, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ON THE REDING TRAIL. AND, AND, AND, UM, UH, IF THIS GOES FORWARD, I I SURE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME MORE GREEN SPACE, A LITTLE BIT MORE BUFFER, UM, UH, OF TREES AND SO FORTH IN BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE, AND THE TRAFFIC GOING DOWN, UP AND, UH, UP AND DOWN BELTLINE. UM, SO MY, MY THIRD QUESTION IS, UM, I'M HOPING YOU CAN ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE, UM, UH, THE APARTMENT, THE EXTERIOR BUILDING MATERIALS. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER DARREN GARDNER AND I WENT AND LOOKED AT A COUPLE, UM, OTHER TRAMMEL CROW, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT WERE REFERRED TO US BY TRAMMEL CROW TO LOOK AT. AND, AND SO, UM, UM, THAT I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING EXERCISE THAT WE TOOK AND VERY HELPFUL FOR ME. BUT, UM, IT, IT DID RAISE QUESTIONS I HAVE ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE FIBER CEMENT BOARD AND PANEL AND A C M PANEL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THAT THAT MEANS, BUT I'M, I'M TRYING TO GET A BETTER, UH, COMFORT LEVEL FOR THE EXTERIOR BUILDING MATERIALS. SURE. SO, UH, THE BUILDING FACADE DESIGN DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY MAJOR WAIVERS, SO IT COMPLIES THERE. IT WOULD, AS IT'S CURRENTLY DESIGNED, REQUIRE MINOR WAIVERS IN THE FUTURE. UM, SO, UH, JUST GENERALLY THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE BELTLINE DISTRICT IS FOR 80% OF THE GROUND FLOOR TO BE COMPRISED OF BRICK OR STONE MASONRY. THEY FULLY COMPLY WITH, WITH THAT, EVERYTHING ELSE, IT'S PRETTY OPEN-ENDED IN TERMS OF MATERIALS. SO EVERYTHING ABOVE THE GROUND FLOOR, UH, THAT SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT STUCCO AND EFIS. AND THEN IT ALSO, UH, ADDRESSES THINGS SUCH AS, UH, METAL SIDING, UH, METAL PANEL, UH, AND THEN ALSO CEMENTITIOUS FIBER BOARD OR, OR SIDING. UM, SO WHERE, UH, THE PROJECT AND BUILDING DESIGN CURRENTLY SITS, SO THE NORTHEAST AND WEST FACADE, UH, CURRENTLY COMPRISES OVER 80% MASONRY GLAZING AND OR METAL SIDING OR METAL PANEL. ALL OF THOSE ARE COMPLIANT MATERIALS. IT ALSO MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE AMOUNT OF GLAZING. SO 30%, AND I'M SPEAKING JUST TO THE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING, UH, WHERE THERE'S ONE DEVIATION I WOULD SAY IS THE SOUTH FACADE. THEY WERE A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH THE CEMENTITIOUS PANEL. UM, SO IN THAT CASE, THAT FACADE DROPS DOWN TO 71% MASONRY GLAZING AND METAL PANEL. UM, I THINK WITH THAT, UH, THEY WANTED, UH, SOME TRANSITION IN MATERIALS BETWEEN THE TOWN HOMES AND THE UH, UH, MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, BUT THEY CAN CERTAINLY ADDRESS THAT WITH COUNCIL AS WELL. OKAY. UM, AND THEN, AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION FOR YOU I'VE GOT IS I GUESS PAGE 25, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAJOR, MAJOR WAIVERS, AND IT MAY, IT MAY BE ON PAGE 26, BUT THIS IS, UH, I'M, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE GROUND FLOOR APARTMENTS ALONG SURVEYOR AND ALSO THE PEDESTRIAN PATH. THERE YOU GO. PERFECT. AND, AND THAT, UH, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE LIVING ON THAT FIRST FLOOR WITH THAT PATIO AND WHERE THAT PEDESTRIAN TRAIL IS AND YOU THINK ABOUT, UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE MIGHT BE WALKING, WALKING, UH, DOWN THAT PATH OR RIDING THEIR BIKE, WHAT HAVE YOU ON SURVEYOR, THAT, THAT SEEMS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE BACKYARD. AND, AND, UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM DID, DID YOU SAY THAT, THAT, THAT THAT MIGHT, THOSE MIGHT, THOSE UNITS MIGHT BE GOOD FOR A D A COMPATIBILITY? YES. YES. 'CAUSE THOSE WILL BE THE RE THE ENTRY WILL BE AT GRADE. OKAY. AND IF WE GO BACK TO THAT, THAT SLIDE, UM, THERE YOU GO. PERFECT. IS, IS THAT THE ENTRY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE THE BACK PATIO OR IS THERE SOME OTHER OTHER NO, I MEAN, THEY'LL HAVE A PRIMARY ENTRY FROM THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. SO YOU, YOU WEREN'T REFERRING TO. OKAY. ALRIGHT, I GOT IT. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? NO OTHERS. OKAY, VERY GOOD. GO AHEAD DARREN. SO, UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS SUBMITTED, SO, UH, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO KNOW WHAT WE THINK AND WHAT QUESTIONS WE HAVE, GO LOOK AT 'EM. THERE'S PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY QUESTIONS. 30, 40 QUESTIONS? 34. I'M SORRY, I WASN'T COUNTING . [01:30:01] SO I WANNA GO THROUGH JUST A FEW OF 'EM. CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE 17? OKAY. SO THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THIS, UH, THIS RATIO OF OWNERSHIP TO RENTAL. MY QUESTION ON THIS ONE WAS, UM, SO HOW MUCH OF THIS, UH, IS ACTUALLY IN PROGRESS OF BEING BUILT AND WHAT'S THE TIMELINE? YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT AND I WANT TO, UH, ASK MORE QUESTIONS AND HIGHLIGHT IT A LITTLE BIT. SO, FOR OWNERSHIP, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN PROGRESS OF BEING BUILT UNDER THE APPROVED COLUMN, UH, WOULD BE ADDISON GROVE AND COBALT HOMES, UH, FOR RENTAL, WHAT'S IN PROGRESS AND BEING BUILT IS 85 RENTAL TOWN HOMES AT VITRUVIAN, UH, 286 MULTIFAMILY RENTAL UNITS AT J P I ADDISON HEIGHTS. SO IN ADDISON CIRCLE AT ADDISON ROAD AND AIRPORT PARKWAY. AND THEN 419, UH, UNITS AS PART OF THE ADDISON TREE HOUSE. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU KNOW ALL THOSE NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, BUT YOU'RE REALLY GOOD. SO, UM, THAT BIG NUMBER OF APPROVED RENTAL, THAT'S 3,632, HOW MANY OF THOSE, UM, ARE TO BE BUILT? SO THAT REALLY COMPRISES, UH, ABOUT JUST UNDER 2200 IN VITRUVIAN PARK, AND THAT IS NET OF WHAT WILL BE SCRAPED WITH THAT REDEVELOPMENT. SO REALLY IT'S ABOUT 3000 NEW, BUT ALSO ACCOUNTING FOR THE LOSS OF 900 AND THEN 682 UNITS FOR THE ADDISON T O D. OKAY. SO, UH, THE TIMEFRAME OF VITRUVIAN, I REMEMBER WHEN VITRUVIAN WAS APPROVED, IT WAS BACK IN THE 2006 SEVEN RANGE AND WHAT WAS GOING ON. NASTY THINGS IN THE ECONOMY, RIGHT? THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS WHEN NOTHING WAS HAPPENING ANYWHERE. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A BIG SILVER LINING. UM, THAT'S ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO, RIGHT? SO NOW WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER 2000, 2200 TOTAL TO BE BUILT. AND WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME OF THOSE? THE, IT'S A BIG QUESTION MARK. SO WE DO NOT HAVE A SCHEDULE FROM U D R. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, UH, THEY, UH, I ANTICIPATE THEY'LL PRIORITIZE DEVELOPMENT OF VACANT LAND. SO MOST OF THEIR VACANT LAND IS SOUTH OF THE CREEK ACROSS FROM, UH, FRE AND, AND, UH, UH, THE OTHER MULTIFAMILY ALONG VITRUVIAN WAY. UH, BUT THEY DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE ANY ZONING PLANS IN REVIEW, AND THEY DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE ANY BUILDING PLANS IN REVIEW. SO I WOULD ANTICIPATE WE WON'T SEE ANOTHER U D R PROJECT UNTIL EARLY 2025. AND WHAT, WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE SLIDE THERE IS A 15 TO 20 YEAR ENDEAVOR, AND I, I WOULD SAY EASILY 10 TO 20 YEARS, THAT'S TWO DECADES, THAT IS A LONG TIME FOR, UH, THINGS TO DEVELOP. SO, UM, ARE THERE STANDARD AMENITY REQUIREMENTS FOR NEW A APARTMENTS? AND SPECIFICALLY I GET, UH, COMMENTS. I'VE GOTTEN COMMENTS ON HOW THIS WILL AFFECT THE, UH, ATHLETIC CLUB. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE ARE USERS OF THAT CLUB. I AM, I USE IT AT LEAST THREE TIMES A WEEK. UM, SO SPECIFICALLY THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES, WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS OR HOW DID, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? W WE DON'T, AND THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS, WE DON'T SPECIFICALLY HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, OR SPECIFICATIONS FOR FITNESS AMENITIES IN THESE PROJECTS. UH, WE, THAT'S THE CASE BECAUSE THE MARKET PROVIDES THAT AND IT DICTATES THAT THIS IS A CLASS, A PROJECT IN A TOWN THAT HAS A LOT OF CLASS A PROJECTS IN A REGION THAT HAS A LOT OF CLASS A PROJECTS. FOR THEM TO ACHIEVE THE $2,000 AVERAGE RENT AND TO BUILD A 125 TO $150 MILLION PROJECT, THEY DON'T HAVE AMENITIES, IT JUST, IT, THE PROJECT WON'T PERFORM. SO WE'RE, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH NOT REGULATING THAT. UM, THE APPLICANT CAN CERTAINLY ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO, UH, FOR THE FITNESS AMENITY. CAN I ASK THAT OF THE APPLICANT WHAT, WHAT THEIR GYM AMENITY LOOKS LIKE? NEXT SECTION? YES. OKAY. UM, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL JUMP IN AND, AND JUST SAY, UH, ON OUR FIELD TRIP, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON AND MYSELF WENT TO TWO OTHER PROPERTIES, UM, AND ALLEN AND PLANO AND THEIR GYMS ARE VERY NICE. THEY'RE LARGE. AND, UH, THE, UM, PROPERTY MANAGER WHO TOURED US OF ONE OF THOSE OR TOOK US ON A TOUR, UH, SAID THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG DECIDING FACTORS IS THAT GYM THAT THEY HAVE. AND THEY HAVE, THEY DO HAVE FREE WEIGHTS THERE JUST FOR THOSE PEOPLE LIKE FREE WEIGHTS. [01:35:01] BUT I, I THINK THAT'S A BIG THING THAT I LOOK AT WHENEVER WE HAVE NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THERE IS WHAT, UH, DEMAND IS IT PUT ON OUR RESOURCES, OUR DOG PARKS, OUR PICKLEBALL COURTS, OUR GYM ATHLETIC CLUB IS, IS A, A JEWEL FOR US. SO THAT'S, WELL, THE APPLICANT TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. UM, ONTO A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS. SO WHAT ARE THE EXPECTED RENTAL RATES OF THE APARTMENT UNITS? UH, WOULD YOU MIND IF I DEFERRED THAT QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT? YES, THAT'S FINE. I GUESS THE NEXT QUESTION ABOUT A, A MULTI-USE AREA MAYBE FOR A PICKLEBALL COURT OR OTHER USES WOULD BE FOR THE APPLICANT ALSO. I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BEST TO STAFF IF THEY WANTED TO DO THAT. STAFF WOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE. SO IF WE WERE TO POSTPONE THIS OR THIS DOES NOT PASS, UH, THE ZONING, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT OTHER OPTIONS ARE THERE? I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, UH, A BIT IN THE STAFF REPORT, REALLY THERE, THERE'S THREE OPTIONS. UH, ONE, UH, YOU SIMPLY WAIT FOR ANOTHER PROPOSAL AND HOPE THAT THE NEXT PROPOSAL, UH, IF THIS DOES NOT ALIGN WITH COUNCIL'S VISION THAT THE NEXT PROPOSAL DOES, UH, THE SECOND WE COULD BE VERY PROACTIVE AND, AND, UH, DO SOMETHING SUCH AS A SPECIAL AREA STUDY OR PROACTIVELY REZONE. I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT FOR THIS CORRIDOR WITH THE BELT LINE REDEVELOPMENT VISION. UH, AND THEN THE THIRD, UH, WOULD BE, UH, TO TRY TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY, UH, WHICH THAT IS A, A POLICY CONSIDERATION FOR COUNCIL. UM, WE DO NOT HAVE FUNDING ALLOCATED IN OUR BUDGET, UM, THE TOWN'S BUDGET FOR THAT. BUT THAT IS CERTAINLY YOUR DISCRETION TO CONSIDER THAT AS A COUNCIL. UM, I THINK THAT THE CHALLENGE WITH WAITING FOR SOMETHING ELSE IS, UH, MOST LIKELY YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A FRAGMENTED PATTERN OF REDEVELOPMENT. THE GREAT BENEFIT OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL IN THAT THEY ASSEMBLED THE LAND AND THEY PRESENT A COHO COHESIVE MASTER PLAN PROJECT. IF IT DEVELOPS, UH, WITH ONE OFF PROJECTS LIKE WELLS FARGO, UH, THE BANK AND THEN, UH, THE EMPTY PARKING LOT, AND THEN THE VACANT LOT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE SAME DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS, UH, OR SIMILAR AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO, HAS HAVE AS COHESIVE OF A PROJECT. SO IF, UH, THIS PROJECT'S NOT APPROVED OR THIS ZONING CHANGE IS NOT APPROVED, IT COULD HAVE THE WHOLE PROJECT FALL APART AND JUST GO AWAY OR NOT MATERIALIZE, IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, WHAT, WHAT WOULD A TIMELINE LOOK LIKE FOR SOMETHING ON THIS SCALE TO COME BACK ALONG FOR THESE PARCELS? UH, I CAN'T PREDICT THAT. UH, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, UM, IF IT WAS MORE OF A REUSE SCENARIO, YOU, YOU'D PROBABLY SEE THAT HAPPEN OVER TIME AND YOU'D PROBABLY SEE IT GO TO MORE LIKE A PAD SITE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING ELSEWHERE, LIKE CHICK-FIL-A FAST FOOD, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, THAT WOULD BE A, A POTENTIAL OPTION. AND THAT WOULD OCCUR OVER SEVERAL YEARS. IF IT WAS A, A MAJOR REDEVELOPMENT, IT WOULD BE A SIMILAR TIMELINE TO THIS. IF IT WAS A COMMERCIAL MIXED USE PROJECT, UH, BETWEEN PLANNING, UH, CONSTRUCTION AND BUILD OUT PROBABLY A FIVE YEAR PROJECT. IF IT WERE TO BE A LARGE FEE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP PROJECT LIKE ADDISON GROVE OR MERIDIAN SQUARE, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT 10 PLUS YEARS OF PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION FOR THAT. THAT SEEMS PLAUSIBLE TO ME. IT COULD BE A COUPLE YEARS FOR THE ECONOMY TO TURN AROUND. IT COULD BE THREE TO FOUR YEARS FOR SOMETHING TO FLOAT ALONG AND COME TO US AGAIN, AND IT COULD BE ANOTHER TWO TO THREE YEARS. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 10 YEARS LONGER FOR THAT AREA AND WEST BELTLINE TO CONTINUE TO DECLINE HAVING THIS DEVELOPMENT ACCELERATES THAT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS ASKING. UM, UH, ON THE ADDISON GROVE TOWN HOMES, THAT'S A LARGE, UH, COMPONENT OF FEE. SIMPLE, RIGHT? IT'S 300 AND SOMETHING TOWN HOMES 178. 178. OKAY. TOWN HOMES. AND WHAT'S, HOW, HOW'S, WHAT'S THE PROGRESS OF THAT? THE REASON I ASK IS, IS THIS IS KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE COULD EXPECT IF THERE WERE A FEE SIMPLE PROJECT THERE. IF IT CAME ALONG 10 YEARS FROM NOW, UH, 57 OUR COMPLETED, UM, SO CONSTRUCTION OF THE TOWN HOMES WERE LIKE STARTED 20 18, 20 19 TIMEFRAME. SO IT TRAILED THE SITE WORK, OF COURSE, AND THE, THE, UH, MULTI-FAMILY, BUT IT'S STILL BEEN ONGOING FOR FIVE PLUS YEARS. SO IT, IT'S BEEN SLOW. PROJECTS LIKE THAT DON'T TYPICALLY TAKE THAT LONG. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S DRIVING THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT BEYOND JUST THE, THE PARTIES INVOLVED IN IT. UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S AN NORMALLY LONG PROJECT AND, AND I DON'T SEE IT CHANGING SIGNIFICANTLY [01:40:01] IN THE FUTURE. SO, UH, WHAT'S THE PHASING OF THE TOWNHOMES WITH THE APARTMENTS? ARE THEY GONNA BE, UH, I READ IN I THINK THE, UH, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN INFORMATION THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE LIKE TWO YEAR START, TWO YEARS AFTER THE APARTMENTS AT THE TOWNHOME PROJECT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY. UM, SO THE, WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE M O U IS, IS PROVIDED A, UH, CONDITION WHERE THE TOWN HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, DIRECT THE PROPERTY OR ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY IN A DIFFERENT WAY IF THE APPLICANT DOESN'T PERFORM ON THE TOWN HOMES AND GET THEM UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITHIN TWO YEARS OF THE MULTI-FAMILY BEING COMPLETED. I'M SURE THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A TOWN HOME BUILDER BUILDING AS SOON AS THEY CAN. UH, BUT THE FEEDBACK WE'RE GETTING FROM THE MARKET, UH, SPECIFICALLY TOWNHOME BUILDERS IS THEY GENERALLY WANT TO GET ENGAGED IN THESE PROJECTS AS THE MULTIFAMILY IS COMPLETING, SO THAT WAY THEY HAVE A COMPLETE PROJECT THAT THEY CAN MARKET AND IT'S NOT A CONSTRUCTION SITE. I MAY HAVE ANOTHER FURTHER QUESTION ON THAT, I GUESS, FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, FOR MORE DETAIL ON THAT. I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS FOR, FOR YOU, KEN. THANKS A LOT. THANK YOU, DARREN. ANY OTHERS? OKAY. IS THERE A PRESENTATION FROM, OH, NANCY, GO AHEAD. SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. UM, COULD YOU GO TO SLIDE 15? UM, YOU TOUCHED ON THIS BRIEFLY ON IN YOUR PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU. BUT, UM, THIS NUMBER FIVE, UH, TALKS ABOUT EXCEPTIONAL PROJECTS AND, UM, WITH, WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF THIS PROJECT, WOULD YOU SHARE SOME OF THE PARTICULAR FEATURES OF THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR THAT GOES TOWARDS MEETING THIS EXCEPTIONAL TEST WHILE ALSO ADDRESSING THE MARKET FACTORS AND TIMING? ABSOLUTELY. I, I, THE BIGGEST THING I WOULD HIGHLIGHT, AND IT IT RELATES TO EVERY TIME WE TALK ABOUT THESE PROJECTS, WE TALK ABOUT MIXED USE. OFTENTIMES WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MIXED USE, IT'S HOUSING AND HOPE WE GET SOME RETAIL AND, AND IT'S CREATING RETAIL SPACES WITHIN THE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING THAT REALLY AREN'T WELL POSITIONED TO, TO SERVE AS RETAIL. WE HAVE OTHER MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THE RETAIL IS HIDDEN AND IT'S NOT PROMINENTLY DISPLAYED, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS LIKELY TO, TO GET MARKET SUPPORT. WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THIS IS THAT IT PROVIDES FOR A HIGHLY SUPPORTABLE BY THE MARKET, MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE RESTAURANT PLAZA. AND THEY'VE PARTNERED WITH AN OPERATOR, UH, AND DEVELOPER AND MANAGER THAT HAS A LONG TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESS. WE'RE NOT RELYING ON, UH, MULTI HOUSING DEVELOPERS AND THEIR BROKER TO TRY TO CREATE A RETAIL AND RESTAURANT ENVIRONMENT. THEY HAVE A GROUP THAT IS HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL AT CREATING VIBRANT RESTAURANT ENVIRONMENTS, AND THEY'VE, UH, SHARED A VISION FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE THAT IS UNIQUE AND THAT WILL BE A GREAT FIT IN ADDITION TO THE, UH, MIDWAY SOUTH CORRIDOR AND THE WEST BELTLINE CORRIDOR. SO WE FEEL THAT THAT IS, UH, UH, AN EXCEPTIONAL COMPONENT OF IT. THE OTHER I WOULD SAY IS THE HOUSING MIX. UH, WE AS STAFF AND WE PUSH OUR DEVELOPERS THAT COME AND, AND TRY TO DO BUSINESS IN THE TOWN TO MAXIMIZE OWNERSHIP HOUSING. WE HEAR WHAT PEOPLE SAY, WE SEE THE POLICIES, WE KNOW THAT IT IS AN ISSUE, AND WE DO OUR BEST TO PROVIDE FOR THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF OWNERSHIP HOUSING THAT WE CAN IN THESE OWNERSHIP HOU IN THESE MIXED USE PROJECTS. HAVING THAT OWNERSHIP HOUSING AS A SECOND PHASE THAT IS VIABLE, THAT WE DO BELIEVE WILL DEVELOP, UH, IS AN EXCEPTIONAL COMPONENT. 'CAUSE SO MANY MULTIFAMILY MIXED USE PROJECTS EITHER, UH, HAVE IT AND IT'S NOT LIKELY TO OCCUR OR IT'S POORLY ACCOMMODATED. WE FEEL THAT IT'S VERY MUCH RIGHT SIZED, AND THIS IS A, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT SHOULD PERFORM EXTREMELY WELL VERSUS JUST BEING ASPIRATIONAL AND NOT REALLY IMPLEMENTING THAT VISION. THANK YOU, MARLON. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, IT, THIS IS, UH, GREAT BECAUSE WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS, THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT, I WAS LOOKING, GOING THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE POINTS ON THE HOUSING POLICY, AND I, AND I HAD A QUESTION ON NUMBER THREE. AND, UH, NEW HOUSING SHOULD CREATE OR ENHANCED NEIGHBORHOODS OF URBAN CHARACTER, AND THEN IT GOES ON. AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO, [01:45:01] I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS, KEN, BUT, UM, THE, THE QUESTION I HAD IN MY MIND IS, IS, IS THIS WHERE THIS IS PROPOSED? IS THIS, DO YOU CONSIDER THIS URBAN AN URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD TO START WITH? SO I CONSIDER ADDISON AN URBAN COMMUNITY THAT HAS A MIX OF CONTEXT. THERE'S SUBURBAN CONTEXT IN ADDISON, UH, NOT ANY RURAL CONTEXT. THERE'S INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL CONTEXT, THERE'S LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CONTEXT. UM, SO THIS IS AN AREA THAT HAS A MIX OF URBAN USES AND URBAN SITES THAT IS EVOLVING AT THE FRONTAGES. UH, SO THE CORRIDOR FRONTAGES TO BE URBAN. SO THIS IS A NATURAL PROGRESSION OF THE URBAN CHARACTER OF THE BELTLINE CORRIDOR. WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH THE TREE HOUSE AND COBALT HOMES IS A NATURAL PROGRESSION OF THE URBAN CHARACTER OF THE MIDWAY CORRIDOR, AND IT PROVIDES FOR AN URBAN TRANSITION TO THE SUBURBAN CHARACTER OF NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE MIDWAY MEADOWS AND LAY LOCKS. THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE MAYOR. OKAY, GO AHEAD THERE. JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. UM, SO WHAT CONTROL, AND THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF LEANS TO AN EXAMPLE OF ADDISON GROVE DRAGGING ON 17 YEARS FOR COMPLETION AT THE RATE THEY'RE GOING, UH, OF THE TOWN HOMES. UH, SO WHAT CONTROL DOES THE TOWN HAVE OVER, UM, QUALITY, QUALITY AND COMPLETION OF SOME, SOME PROJECT LIKE THIS? SO VERY BROADLY, WE HAVE OUR ZONING AND BUILDING CODES. UH, OBVIOUSLY THROUGH THIS PROCESS WE'RE APPLYING A, UH, FORM-BASED ZONING THAT HAS STRICT REQUIREMENTS FOR URBAN DESIGN, LAND USE, MIX, AND, UH, DESIGN OF PUBLIC SPACES, BUT ALSO HOW THE PRIVATE SPACES ENGAGE THE PUBLIC SPACES. WE ALSO, WHEN WE GET TO CONSTRUCTION, UH, WE HAVE OUR, UH, BUILDING PLAN REVIEW AND PERMITTING PROCESS WHERE, UH, WHICH WE UTILIZE THROUGH INSPECTIONS TO ENSURE THAT WHAT GETS CONSTRUCTED MEETS CODE. I WILL SAY CANDIDLY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOES SLOW DOWN OUR WORK OR, OR THE, THE PROGRESS OF ADDISON GROVE IS CHALLENGES WITH COMPLYING WITH APPROVED PLANS. SO WE TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY AND WE MAKE THE DEVELOPERS THAT DO BUSINESS HERE IN ADDISON COMPLY WITH THOSE APPROVED PLANS. SO THAT'S KIND OF MORE OF THE, UM, ENFORCEMENT PIECE OF THAT. UM, WHEN YOU CONSIDER HOW FAST A DEVELOPMENT GOES, THAT'S VERY CHALLENGING TO FORCE. UM, I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO APPROVE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE MARKET SUPPORT WHEN YOU APPROVE DEVELOPMENTS, AND IT'S OKAY TO BE ASPIRATIONAL. AND ADDISON GROVE, IN MY OPINION, OVERALL IS A GOOD PROJECT. SO DON'T TAKE THAT AS WE SHOULDN'T HAVE APPROVED IT, BUT ASPIRATIONAL DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOING TO TAKE LONGER THAN DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE STRONG MARKET SUPPORT. I THINK IT'S GOOD TO STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN EACH END OF THAT SPECTRUM. YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST HAVE EVERYTHING DRIVEN BY THE MARKET, BUT YOU ALSO DON'T WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING SO ASPIRATIONAL THAT, UM, IT'S DIFFICULT TO, TO, UH, COMPLETE THE PROJECT AND SELL THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. SO, UH, WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY ALSO IN BETWEEN THE LINES THERE IS THAT THE, IF THE DEMAND FOR THE TOWN HOMES AT ADDISON GROVE OR THE TOWN HOMES WERE STRONGER, THEN THEY WOULD GET DONE FASTER. I THINK THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE, UH, A GOOD, UM, THING TO INFER FROM THAT. IS THERE EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE OF THAT? PROBABLY NOT, BUT JUST CONSIDERING HUMAN NATURE IN THE MARKET, GENERALLY, ONE, ONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROFIT GREATLY AT IT CAUSES PEOPLE TO MOVE QUICKER. THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT. I'VE SPOKE TO, UH, SOME, SOME REALTORS THAT HAVE ECHOED THAT I'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AND RIGHT. I'VE NOT DONE STUDIES, BUT I DO, I DO FIND THAT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE, THE VERY MUCH THE CASE THAT THERE WAS STRONGER DEMAND IN THAT RANGE THAN THEY, THEY WOULD BE MOVING ALONG MUCH FASTER. YEAH. THE CHALLENGE IS THAT IS THE HIGHER, THE MORE EXPENSIVE UNITS SOLD IN THAT PROJECT HAVE A VERY NICHE MARKET. SO A VERY ONLY, A VERY SMALL SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION CAN SPEND 800 TO $900,000 ON A TOWN HOME OR WILL SPEND THAT ON A TOWN HOME, 500 TO 600,000. YOU'LL SELL THAT ALL DAY IN D F W VERY QUICKLY. THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. ALSO, THE TOWN HOME PROJECTED PRICE OF THIS PROJECT. IS THAT MORE FOR THE DEVELOPER? MORE FOR THE DEVELOPER. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION, MAYOR. YOU, THANK YOU MAYOR CHAD. UH, SLIDE 15, IS THAT SLIDE 15 WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE? YES. [01:50:01] SO THIS IS THE CURRENT HOUSING POLICY, AND THIS IS A, UH, THIS WAS DEVELOPED FROM THE 2015 POLICY, IF I'M CORRECT. YES. SO CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT ISSUE TRIGGERED THE AMENDING OF THE 2015 HOUSING PLAN? BECAUSE DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE HAD BACK IN 2016 WHEN THIS WAS ADJUSTED, UM, THERE, UH, DURING THAT COUNCIL DISCUSSION, UM, THERE WERE, THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CHANGING THIS BASED ON A REQUEST BY THE STAFF AND NOT AN OUTPOURING OF RESIDENTS CONCERNS. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? RIGHT. YEAH. THERE, THERE WAS A SERIES OF MEETINGS, UH, IN 2016, UH, LATE 2016 THAT ULTIMATELY RESULTED IN THE 2017 HOUSING POLICY. AND IT WAS, IT WAS TRIGGERED BY STAFF REQUESTING COUNCIL DIRECTION ON WHETHER THE HOUSING POLICY IN PLACE AT THAT TIME WAS STILL ALIGNED WITH THE, UH, VISION AND GOALS OF COUNCIL FOR FUTURE HOUSING IN ADDISON. AND THEN ALSO IT ADDRESSED THE, THE CONCEPT OF DENSITY AND WHETHER THAT WAS A MORE CRITICAL CONSIDERATION OR EQUALLY CRITICAL CONSIDERATION VERSUS, UH, SAY THE OWNERSHIP RENTAL ISSUE. SO ANY, ANY COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE RECENTLY AND WITH, WITHIN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS, MAYBE SIX MONTHS, WHERE A RESIDENT HAS SAID THAT LOOKING AT THIS 2017 CHANGE, THAT IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, SPURRED BY RESIDENTS, UH, CONCERN ABOUT HAVING TOO MANY APARTMENTS IS FALSE. I, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT DEEP IN THE HISTORY, UH, BUT JUST FROM LOOKING AT THE, THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AT THAT TIME, IT, IT, IT WOULD NOT SUGGEST THAT. THANK YOU. THANKS GQ. ANY OTHERS? IS THERE A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT? VERY GOOD. WELL, LET'S HEAR FROM THEM. GOOD EVENING. UM, IS THERE A CLICKER? I WILL WAIT A SECOND UNTIL IT'S UP. UM, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. UH, MY NAME IS JOEL BARRONS, UM, WITH TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY. AND THIS POINT OF CLARIFICATION, WHEN WE DEVELOP APARTMENTS, UH, OUR MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT, IT'S UNDER THE HIGH STREET RESIDENTIAL BRAND. UH, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT MENTIONED, UM, THROUGHOUT. UM, SO, BUT ANYWAY, IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE TONIGHT. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME. UM, I'VE BEEN WITH THE COMPANY FOR OVER 15 YEARS. I, I LEAD OUR GROUP, UM, THAT FOCUSES ON MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED USE PROJECTS HERE IN NORTH TEXAS. UM, I'M JOINED TONIGHT BY A FEW OF MY COLLEAGUES AND, AND, UM, AND, AND OTHERS THAT AREN'T HERE THIS EVENING. UM, AND, AND I'LL HAVE A SLIDE ON THAT IN A MINUTE, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE, UH, YOU KNOW, A PROJECT LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND I'M GONNA ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS LATER ON. I'M GONNA SPEAK FOR A COUPLE SLIDES. I'M GONNA HAND IT OFF TO MY COLLEAGUE, KEVIN HICKMAN, WHO'S GONNA ADDRESS, UM, YOU KNOW, A GOOD PART OF THIS PRESENTATION. AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO ADDRESS AS MANY QUESTIONS AS WE CAN, BUT OBVIOUSLY OPEN TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS TOWARDS THE END. UM, SO JUST A LITTLE CONTEXT, UM, TRAMELL CROW COMPANY, UH, FOUNDED HERE IN DALLAS IN 1948 BY, UM, TRAMMELL CROW. THE MAN ON THE SCREEN, UM, PASSED QUITE A WHILE AGO IN 2009, BUT WE'RE A WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF C B R E. C B R E IS THE LARGEST, UH, REAL ESTATE SERVICES COMPANY. UM, THEY'RE ALSO HEADQUARTERED HERE IN DALLAS. UM, SO WE ARE A COMPANY THAT'S OWNED BY THEM. WE OPERATE IN ABOUT 20 CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. UM, ALL OF OUR KIND OF CO-INVESTMENT MONEY COMES FROM THEM. UM, SO ALL THE MONEY THAT WE INVEST IN OUR PROJECTS IS COMES FROM C B E, THE PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY, UM, AGAIN, DEVELOPING ACROSS THESE 19 CITIES. UM, AND, UH, I'VE BEEN ACTIVE IN HERE FOR THE LAST, OR REALLY SINCE 2012 LEADING THIS GROUP, AND WE'VE BEEN QUITE ACTIVE IN CARROLLTON. WE HAVE A LONG-TERM PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM DATING BACK TO 2007 AND OH EIGHT, HELPING THEM WITH A LOT OF THE REDEVELOPMENT IN THEIR DOWNTOWN. [01:55:01] UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, BIG PICTURE, WE DEVELOP BEST IN CLASS PROJECTS, AND THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE IDENTIFIED A FEW YEARS AGO. UM, IT'S HAD ITS STARTS AND STOPS FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, WHICH, WE'LL, WE'LL, I'LL HIT ON A BIT MORE IN THE CONCLUSION. UM, BUT PROJECTS LIKE THIS TAKE QUITE A BIT OF TIME. UM, BUT WE PICK OUR SPOTS AND WE REALLY WORK TO CREATE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS ON BEST IN CLASS SITES. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WE PURSUE. UM, I THINK SOME OF THE FOLKS HERE MIGHT'VE TOURED A COUPLE OF THE PICTURES OR A COUPLE OF THE PROJECTS ON THE SCREEN HERE. RECENT COMPLETIONS, UM, IS THE MONTGOMERY AND ALLEN ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT. THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST COMPARABLE TO THIS PROJECT IN THAT IT'S, UM, A, WHAT WE CALL A WRAP PROJECT, SIMILAR TO WHAT AM EMILY PROJECT WAS. AND THIS IS WRAPPING. YOU HAVE A GARAGE THAT'S, UM, REALLY SURROUNDED BY APARTMENTS. AND SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S IN A MIXED USE DISTRICT IN ALLEN OFF OF 75. UH, VERY WALKABLE AREA, UM, LEGACY SQUARES AND A MORE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY AREA THAT WAS A FULLY ENTITLED ZONE SITE. UH, WE HAVE A COMBINATION OF TOWN HOMES AND, UM, THREE STORY APARTMENTS. UM, BUT WE, WE WORK ON MID-RISE, WE WORK ON HIGH-RISE, WE WORK ON WRAP, WE WORK ON WALK-UPS. UH, BUT I THINK THE COMMON THEME, UM, OF THESE PROJECT IS PICKING OUR SPOTS, DELIVERING BEST IN CLASS PROJECT WITH BEST IN CLASS PARTNERS, WHETHER THAT BE EQUITY PARTNERS, LENDER PARTNERS. UM, WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN WHAT WE DO. UH, WE DON'T TAKE IT LIGHTLY THAT A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE COME BEFORE US. UM, WE'RE CELEBRATING OUR 75TH YEAR ANNIVERSARY THIS YEAR. AND, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE CARRIED THE TORCH IN FRONT OF US. AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WHAT, WHAT THAT MEANS TO US IS WE REALLY TRY TO APPROACH EVERY PROJECT AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE, UM, AND, AND BE OPEN BOOK. AND WE DON'T TRY TO FORCE ANYTHING. I MEAN, WE LOOK AT THE GUIDING DOCUMENTS, WE ENGAGE WITH STAFF. I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH GOOD THINGS ABOUT STAFF. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO FOLLOW, KEN. UM, IT'S TALK ABOUT THOROUGHNESS, TALK ABOUT REALLY OPENING OUR EYES TO ALL THE VARIOUS REQUIREMENTS AND EXPECTATIONS OF THE TOWN EDUCATING US. UM, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A GREAT EXPERIENCE, ALBEIT IT'S BEEN A LONG ONE, NO FAULT OF Y'ALL'S OR KEN'S, BUT JUST MARKET CONDITIONS, UM, AND THE COMPLEXITIES OF ASSEMBLING A PRETTY COMPLICATED SITE. AND SO I'M GONNA COME BACK IN A MINUTE. UM, I, BEFORE I HAND IT OFF TO KEVIN, I, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEAR IT A LOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS WAS, UM, WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR SUSTAINABILITY? UM, IS THAT IMPORTANT TO Y'ALL? UM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'VE SEEN IS OUR COMMITMENT TO IT IN THE UNDERLYING, UM, REQUIREMENTS WE'RE PUTTING ON OURSELVES AS PART OF THIS IN TERMS OF PURSUING IT AT A MINIMUM N G B S, UM, SILVER. BUT BEYOND THAT, JUST AS AN ORGANIZATION, I'D SAY OUR, OUR PARENT COMPANY IS REALLY LEADING THE INDUSTRY IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR, THEIR GOALS IN TERMS OF WHAT SUSTAINABILITY MEANS TO THEM WITH A, A NET ZERO GOAL BY 2040. UH, WHICH WITH A REAL ESTATE COMPANY IS NOT NOT EASY. UM, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ARE A PRETTY BIG CARBON FOOTPRINT. AND SO, UM, WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ACHIEVE THAT. UH, ALMOST EVERY PROJECT THAT WE'VE EVER WORKED ON HAS OBTAINED LEAD SILVER OR N G B SS, UM, CERTIFICATION. NOT ONLY IS IT IMPORTANT TO US, IT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR EQUITY AND OUR DEBT PARTNERS. UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S AT THE FOREFRONT OF EVERYBODY'S, UM, AGENDA RIGHT NOW AND RIGHTFULLY SO. UM, SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA HAND IT OFF TO KEVIN. I'LL BE BACK LATER ON. UH, BUT APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UH, KEVIN HICKMAN, TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY. UM, YOU KNOW, A FEW OF THESE SLIDES. KEN HAS ALREADY DONE A GOOD JOB OF PRESENTING THE HISTORY ON THESE. UH, SO ON THIS SLIDE, I'LL JUST NOTE, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT, UH, ASSESSED VALUE FOR ON A TAXING IS $10.3 MILLION. OUR, OUR PROJECT STANDALONE IS, UH, IS IN EXCESS OF $125 MILLION. SO CERTAINLY A, A, A BIG TAX BENEFIT TO THE CITY. UM, AGAIN, KEN HIGHLIGHTED SOME THE GUIDING DOCUMENTS AND CERTAINLY WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH IT. AND REALLY THE INTENT, THESE IS YOU PUT 'EM ALL TOGETHER, RIGHT? YOU WANT A THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY THE BELTLINE DISTRICT REGULATIONS. YOU WANT AN URBAN EDGE ALONG BELTLINE. YOU WANT US TO FOCUS ON PEDESTRIANS OVER VEHICLES AND REALLY HIGHLY AMENITIZE A RANGE OF USES IN PARKS AND PUBLIC SPACE. AND I'LL TELL YOU, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT, UM, ABOUT THIS CONCEPT PLAN. UM, YOU KNOW, EARLIER TODAY, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT SOME OF OUR OLD SITE PLANS, RIGHT? AND I REALLY HAVE TO COMMEND KEN AND HIS STAFF REALLY PUSHING US. I THINK HE EVEN SAID IT. HE PUSHES DEVELOPERS AS, AS APPLICANTS COME THROUGH, AS DEVELOPERS COME THROUGH, HE REALLY PUSHES THEM TO BE THOUGHTFUL. AND THEY DID THIS, I LOOKED THROUGH 12 DIFFERENT VARIOUS SITE PLANS THAT, THAT WE'VE PUT IN FRONT OF KEN. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SITE PLAN THAT WE STAND IN FRONT OF YOU AS A TEAM THAT WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF. UM, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT CAN REALLY BE A CATALYST FOR THIS [02:00:01] PORTION OF BELTLINE, UH, FOR A NUMBER OF REINVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU HAVE IN THIS TOWN. UM, THIS IS, WE, WE VIEW THIS AS A GATEWAY PROJECT, AND WE HOPE YOU DO TOO. UM, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY ARE WE REALLY POSITIONING, YOU KNOW, PARTNERING WITH, YOU KNOW, SO MANY DIFFERENT PE UM, PEOPLE HERE, RIGHT? THE ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION, RIGHT? WE'RE COMMITTING $250,000 IN PUBLIC ART AND THREE DIFFERENT VARIOUS, UH, ART INSTALLATIONS. WE'RE PARTNERING WITH REY'S AS, AS KEN ALLUDED, RIGHT, JOEL AND ME AND THE TEAM AND THE REST OF OUR TEAM. OUR DAY-TO-DAY IS MULTIFAMILY ONLY. WE KNEW FOR THIS TO BE A GREAT PROJECT THAT WE NEEDED TO PARTNER WITH A RETAIL OPERATOR, A RETAIL MANAGER, A RETAIL DEVELOPER, SOMEBODY WHO LIVES AND BREATHES RETAIL ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. AND THAT'S WHY WE PARTNER WITH REY'S. WE HAVE A REPRESENTATION FROM REY'S HERE TONIGHT IF YOU WANT TO ASK THEM ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR MERCHANDISING PLAN. BUT WE REALLY THINK THIS IS THE CENTER AND FOCAL POINT OF OUR PROJECT. IT'S GOING TO MAKE OR BREAK US, AND WE'RE GONNA BE VERY INTENTIONAL. WE'RE GONNA BE VERY THOUGHTFUL, AND WE'RE GONNA PATIENT AND MAKE SURE WE EXECUTE THAT WELL. L THE SITE HAS SO MANY DI DIFFERENT ATTRIBUTES TO IT. I MEAN, WE'VE HIGHLY AMENITIZED RESTAURANT PLAZA AREA. UM, WE'VE PULLED, AS KEN MENTIONED, WE'VE PULLED THE BUILDING BACK AWAY FROM THE INTERSECTION OF SURVEYOR AND BELTLINE TO REALLY GIVE THAT INTERSECTION SOME RELIEF. WE PULLED THE BUILDINGS AWAY FROM SURVEYOR TO NOT ONLY PRESERVE THE MA MATURE TREES THAT WE HAVE, LONG SURVEYOR, BUT TO ALSO INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE FRONT YARD CAPABILITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE FIRST FLOOR UNITS CAN REALLY BENEFIT. WE'VE GOT A PEDESTRIAN PATH THROUGHOUT IT. WE'VE GOT OVER A QUARTER OF AN ACRE URBAN DISTRICT PARK THAT'S SURROUNDED BY THE TOWN HOMES. AGAIN, HIGHLY AMENITY SPACE, UM, THAT WE PLAN ON, HIGH PLAN ON PROGRAMMING. UM, WE'VE GOT OUR OWN PRIVATE DOG PARK, AND WE'LL WALK THROUGH SOME OF THESE FEATURES. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VIEW FROM BELTLINE, AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, AS KEN MENTIONED ALONG BELTLINE FRONTAGE IS REALLY FIVE STORIES. IT'S REALLY FOUR LEVELS OF LIVING. AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO IS REALLY BRING THAT COMMERCIAL, FEEL THAT TRUE COMMERCIAL FEEL ALONG BELTLINE AND CREATE THAT URBAN EDGE AT THE BELTLINE DISTRICT REGULATION REALLY WANTS AND ASKS FOR. SO YOU'LL SEE ON, UM, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN IS OUR LEASING AND AMENITY DECK, AND YOU'LL SEE AN, AN ADDITIONAL AMENITY DECK ON, ON TOP OF THE LEASING AREA. BUT TO THE RIGHT OF THAT IS, IS OUR LIVE WORK UNITS. THESE ARE REALLY ONE, ONE MULTIFAMILY UNIT ACROSS TWO FLOORS. SO WE'VE GOT TWO STORIES, BUT WITH ONLY ONE UNIT. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THREE, UH, MULTIFAMILY FLOORS ABOVE THAT. SO THAT'S REALLY CREATING THAT URBAN EDGE. THOSE ARE GONNA HAVE FRONT DOOR ENTRIES ALONG BELTLINE. UM, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THAT, UH, 10 FOOT TRAIL THAT, UH, KEN ALLUDED TO BEFORE. THIS IS THE CORNER OF BELTLINE AND SURVEYOR. UM, YOU'LL NOTICE THIS IS A FOCAL POINT. THIS IS OUR GATEWAY ENTRY MARK. YOU'LL, YOU'LL NOTICE THE, UM, ART INSTALLATION AT THE CORNER. AGAIN. THIS, THIS CORNER IS PULLED AWAY FROM THAT INTERSECTION PRO PROVIDING THAT RELIEF. UM, YOU'LL, YOU'LL NOTICE AS YOU WALK DOWN SURVEYOR, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THOSE FRONT, FRONT YARD, UM, AMENITIES THAT THOSE UNITS ARE GONNA HAVE. UH, THIS IS LOOKING AT OUR TOWN HOME URBAN DISTRICT PARK. AND AGAIN, THIS IS OVER A QUARTER ACRE OF OPEN SPACE. THIS IS REALLY PROGRAMMED FOR WITH TREE DECK PLAZAS, UM, PROGRAM LAWNS, OUTDOOR GAMING AREAS, TREE GROWS. THIS IS BE HEAVILY LANDSCAPED, HIGHLY MONETIZED AREA FOR FAMILIES AND VISITORS TO, TO COME AND ENJOY. RIGHT IN FRONT OF THIS, THIS PLAZA AREA, THERE'S AN ENHANCED PAVING. WE VIEW THIS AS A, AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY PUT BALLARDS OUT IN FRONT OF THAT FRONT DRIVE AND REALLY TO BLOCK OFF THAT VEHICULAR ACCESS AND HAVE AND HOLD COMMUNITY EVENTS, UM, THAT EVERYBODY CAN COME AND ENJOY. UH, THIS IS ANOTHER AREA THAT'S A HIGHLY MONETIZED, AS I, AS I REFERENCED EARLIER, BUT ALSO ANOTHER BALLARD OPPORTUNITY. WE'RE GONNA PUT BALLARD HAVE THE ABILITY TO INSTALL BALLARDS TO REALLY CUT OFF THAT VEHICULAR CIRCULATION, UM, AND HOST COMMUNITY EVENTS. WE'RE AGREEING TO, UH, WORK WITH A TOWN ON, ON HOSTING THESE EVENTS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WITHIN THAT M O U THAT, UH, WE'RE AGREEING TO. SO JUST A FEW THINGS THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROGRAMMING WITHIN THIS RESTAURANT. RETAIL PLAZA AREAS, THE SLOPED LAWNS, FESTOON LIGHTING, AGAIN, AN ART FEATURE, INSTALLATION, WATER FEATURES. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT, UH, PEDESTRIAN AREA. UM, THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF REY'S. UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT TWO CONCEPTS THAT THEY'VE, THEY'VE LAUNCHED WITHIN THEMSELVES. ONE IS HATCHWAY, IT'S A CAFE WORKPLACE WITHIN DALLAS. ANOTHER ONE IS BILLY CANCAN. THAT'S, UH, IS A, IS A RESTAURANT AND, UH, [02:05:01] BEVERAGE SERVICE IN DALLAS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE EXPERIENCE IN HENDERSON AVENUE AND VICTORY PARK AND AUTRY PARK AND, UH, SUGARLAND, UH, TOWN CENTER DOWN IN HOUSTON. AND SO, YOU KNOW, REY'S IS REALLY AN EXCELLENT, YOU KNOW, RETAIL OPERATOR THAT HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE THAT WE'RE EXCITED TO BE PARTNERING WITH. UM, I KNOW ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, UH, AMENITIES AND LIFESTYLES. AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE THAT ACTUALLY WENT AND, AND TOURED A PROJECT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GARDNER, I, I THANK YOU. MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE FITNESS AND IN MANY AREAS ARE LARGE, RIGHT? WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO OF A PROJECT THIS SIZE IS WE WANT TO CAPTURE AND RETAIN THESE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO STAY ON SITE UNLESS THEY'RE, UH, EATING AT RESTAURANTS OR GOING TO WORK WITHIN THE TOWN OF ADDISON. BUT THE THOUGHT IS, YOU KNOW, COMMITTING TO A LARGE ENOUGH, UH, FITNESS AREA, UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THE BUSINESS CENTERS THAT ARE ON THE SCREEN. WE'VE GOT SMALL BREAKOUT ROOMS, WE'VE GOT PRIVATE CONFERENCE ROOMS IN THESE BUSINESS CENTERS, LARGE ENOUGH AMENITIES, THESE GRAND POOL AREAS. I MEAN, THIS IS LIKE, THIS IS A RESORT LIVING. THESE AREN'T RESIDENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN'T AFFORD HOUSES. THESE ARE RESIDENTS THAT ARE CHOOSING TO RENT BECAUSE OF THE LIFESTYLE THAT THESE PROJECTS AFFORD THEM TO HAVE. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK OVER TO JOEL. UM, AND WE'LL, WE'LL HAPPEN TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER HE FINISHES HIS PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY ABOUT DEMOGRAPHICS, INCOME LEVELS, RENT LEVELS, SO, UM, PUT TOGETHER A SLIDE TO ADDRESS, UM, QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THAT. AND SO, UM, ON THE RIGHT WE'RE A COUPLE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAD MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED IN PLANO AND, AND ALAN RECENTLY. UM, WE LOOKED AT THOSE, UH, 'CAUSE WE HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AS WELL AS THE AVERAGE AGE. JUST ANECDOTALLY, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THIS SITE IN GENERAL, THE EXISTING DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE BELTLINE PROJECT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THESE IN TERMS OF AVERAGE INCOME LEVELS, UM, EDUCATION AND WHATNOT. UM, SO OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR BELTLINE, BUT IT, I THINK IT'S GENERALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT WE ONE COULD EXPECT TO SEE. AND SO WHAT YOU SEE IS AN INCOME LEVEL ALLEN OF RIGHT AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND, UM, AVERAGE AGE AROUND 33 RENT AROUND 1936. UM, PLAN, OH, UM, SKEWS A BIT HIGHER IN TERMS OF RENT. UM, AND THAT'S LARGELY DRIVEN BY THE TOWN HOME COMPONENT. THE TOWN HOMES AND THAT PROJECT ARE FOR RENT. UM, THAT WAS ALWAYS OUR PLAN. THAT'S NEVER BEEN OUR PLAN HERE. UM, THE AVERAGE AGE THERE IS 33, AND THE INCOME LEVEL IS 1 33. SO THESE ARE RENTERS BY CHOICE. THESE ARE LUXURY PROJECTS. ALL THOSE IMAGES THAT YOU JUST SAW ON THAT PRIOR SLIDE OF AMENITY SPACE, LOUNGE SPACE, THAT WAS ALL FROM THE MONTGOMERY, WHICH AGAIN, IS THE MOST REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT, UH, WE WOULD EXPECT THIS PROJECT TO LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF LEVEL OF FINISH, AMENITIES AND WHATNOT. AND SO RENTERS BY CHOICE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT MEANS FOLKS ARE LIVING WELL WITHIN THEIR MEANS. UH, TYPICALLY, UH, THEIR, UH, INCOME TO RENT LEVELS IS AROUND 22 TO 23%. UM, TYPICALLY WE DON'T SEE IT NORTH OF THAT INDUSTRY. STANDARDS ARE 30%. UM, THAT'S WHAT IS UNDERWRITTEN. SO SOMEBODY MAKES AN APPLICATION TO LIVE IN AN APARTMENT PROJECT, WHETHER IT'S OURS OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S BEST IN CLASS PROPERTY MANAGERS. THAT'S THE FILTER THAT YOU GO THROUGH TO QUALIFY TO LIVE IN THAT BUILDING. UM, AND THAT'S LARGELY DRIVEN BY FAIR HOUSING, MAKING SURE WE'RE TREATING PEOPLE FAIRLY, UM, AND APPROPRIATELY, AND THAT THEY CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE PROJECT. AND SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE PROJECTS WE'RE BUILDING ARE INCOME LEVELS ARE MUCH HIGHER AND THAT THEY HAVE MUCH MORE DISPOSABLE INCOME, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE RENTER, BUT BY CHOICE, THEY'RE CHOOSING TO LIVE IN ADDISON. THEY'RE CHOOSING TO LIVE IN VERY, UM, NICE PROPERTIES, UM, THAT COME AT A PREMIUM. AND THEY'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO. AND SO EXTRAPOLATING THAT TO THIS PROJECT, OUR AVERAGE RENT CHECK IN THIS PROJECT IS AROUND $2,000 A MONTH. AVERAGE INCOME WOULD PUT IT AT AROUND 101,000 USING THOSE SIMILAR RATIOS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN OUR OTHER COMPARABLE PROJECTS. AND WE WOULD EXPECT AN AGE LIKELY IN THE, IN THE LOW TO MID THIRTIES. UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT INTERESTING WAS ACTUALLY A POINT AMLI, UH, MADE IN THEIR PRESENTATION. WE LOOKED AT IT AND PULLED DEMOGRAPHIC DATA AS WELL, JUST OUT, JUST OUT OF INTEREST REALLY. AND I THINK THAT, I THINK WE, IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, UM, 'CAUSE YOU SEE ALL THE JOBS AND THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN ADDISON AND THE FACT THAT THE POPULATION GENERALLY ISN'T AS HIGH GIVEN JUST HOW DENSE THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OR PORTION OF THIS, UM, CITY IS. SO IT WAS INTERESTING TO US JUST TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, D F W HAS A RATIO OF, YOU KNOW, 0.65 JOBS PER RESIDENT. ADDISON'S TWO AND A QUARTER. UM, SO A LOT MORE JOBS, UM, THAN RESIDENTS. AND, YOU KNOW, TO US, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING POLICY ADDRESSES IT IN TERMS OF INCREASING HOUSING STOCK. THIS IS A BIG DRIVER FOR IT. YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK IN, [02:10:01] IN YOUR TOWN. YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF HOUSING. THOSE PEOPLE ARE USING CITY SERVICES. THEY'RE PASSING THROUGH YOUR CITY, BUT THEY'RE NOT LIVING HERE. AND I THINK THIS GOES A LONG WAYS TO, TO TRY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THAT RATIO A BIT AND, AND HAVE MORE RESIDENTS IN ADDISON. UM, THE NEXT SLIDE, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. UM, I THINK, UH, AGAIN, STAFF DID A GREAT JOB OF HELPING ORGANIZE THIS, UM, AND, AND HELPING SET IT UP. UM, YOU KNOW, WE LED THE MEETINGS, THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON, ON JULY 26TH AND AUGUST 9TH. UM, THEY'RE VERY WELL ATTENDED. I'M NOT GONNA SIT UP HERE AND SAY THAT EVERYBODY THAT ATTENDED LOVED THE PROJECT. UM, BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, UH, WE FELT LIKE IT WAS PRODUCTIVE. THERE'S A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE FELT LIKE WE, THAT WE COULD ADDRESS. WE DEFINITELY LEANED IN AND TRIED TO ADDRESS. THERE'S BIGGER PICTURE THINGS THAT WE HAVE A HARD TIME ADDRESSING OR JUST SIMPLY CAN'T IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE PERCENTAGES OF HOME OWNERSHIP TO RENTAL THAT JUST ARE SOMETHING THAT WE, WE CAN'T. UM, BUT WE, WE, WE HEARD AND WE TRIED TO MAKE AS MANY IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PLAN THAT WE COULD LARGELY SURROUNDING TRAFFIC AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ON SURVEYOR. UM, KINDA ALREADY HIT ON THE, ON THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT THAT WE'VE ACHIEVED. AND IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY BENEFITS, I'LL, I'LL HIT ON THAT A BIT MORE IN THE CLOSING, BUT OBVIOUSLY I JUST MENTIONED HOUSING STOCK. KEVIN PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED YOU HAVE A SITE THAT'S ABSOLUTELY UNDERUTILIZED WITH THE CITY ASSESSMENT OF RIGHT UNDER RIGHT AROUND 60,000. AND WE EXPECT WHAT THIS WILL PRODUCE ABOUT $760,000 IN CITY REVENUE, EXCLUDING SCHOOLS AND HOSPITAL AND WHATNOT. UM, AND THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, BIG PICTURE, I, WE DEFINITELY SEE THIS AS A GREAT CATALYST FOR REDEVELOPMENT ON THE WEST SIDE OF BELTLINE. AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC ART AND ARE THRILLED THAT WE'VE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THAT IN THIS PROJECT. UM, TRAFFIC, IT'S, IT'S BEEN ONE OF THE MOST TALKED ABOUT THINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAT WE HAD. UM, YOU KNOW, INTERSECTIONS STUDIED, ARE OUTLINED THERE ON THE SCREEN. I'M NOT GONNA READ 'EM TO YOU. UH, BUT BIG PICTURE, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE REMAINS ABOVE ACCEPTABLE LEVELS, I THINK LARGELY ATTRIBUTED TO THE FACT WE'RE DEVELOPING ON A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, UM, THAT HAS CAPACITY. QUITE HONESTLY. I'VE BEEN PART OF, UM, YOU KNOW, DOZENS OF PROJECTS. I'VE, I'VE NEVER REZONED A PROPERTY THAT HAD SUCH GOOD TRAFFIC, UM, GRADES AT THESE INTERSECTIONS. UM, THAT SAID, IT, IT'S A CHANGE. I APPRECIATE THAT IT, ANYTIME YOU HAVE CHANGE THAT, UM, THERE'S A FEAR OF CONGESTION AND, AND WHAT THAT CHANGE WILL BRING. AND SO, UM, ON THE TABLE YOU CAN SEE THAT THE INCREMENTAL INCREASE, UM, DAILY TRIPS IS 1100 DAILY TRIPS. WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE'RE SEEING AN AM PEAK INCREASE OF AROUND 165 TRIPS IN THE AM AND FIVE IN THE PM. UM, AND THAT'S BASED OFF OF WHAT'S EXISTING ON THE SITE. UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WAS THERE GROWTH FACTORS INCLUDED IN THAT? THE CITY RECOMMENDS THAT WE GROW IT AT 1.5%. UM, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS GREW THE EXISTING BACKGROUND AT 2% TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE. UM, BUT BIG PICTURE, WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO PUSH TRAFFIC TO BELTLINE. UM, OUR TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS AND, UH, ANTICIPATES 94% OF TRAFFIC WILL FLOW TO AND FROM BELTLINE ROAD. UM, AND AS MENTIONED, THERE'S A, A LOT OF CAPACITY ON BELTLINE ROAD. UM, THE NEXT SLIDE JUST SHOWS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'D EXPECT TRAFFIC FLOW TO LOOK ALIKE IN AND OUT OF THE VARIOUS ACCESS POINTS. UM, YOU CAN SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN PARENTES ARE PM. THE NUMBERS WITHOUT PARENTES ARE AM SO A LOT OF DISCUSSION HAS BEEN AROUND BELTWAY. UM, AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TRAFFIC ENGINEERS. I DON'T PRETEND TO BE ONE. UH, WE HIRE THEM AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY ALSO BEEN REVIEWED BY THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER. BUT YOU CAN SEE GENERALLY MINIMAL IMPACT ON BELTWAY, WHICH IS WHERE MOST OF THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN IN TERMS OF WHAT TRAFFIC FLOW YOU'D EXPECT. YOU CAN SEE IN THE AM THAT'S ONE ADDITIONAL CAR EVERY SIX MINUTES. AND IN THE PM IT'S ONE CAR EVERY 12 MINUTES. ALL THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THERE'S, UM, A FEAR THERE WILL BE MORE, OR THAT IT COULD BE MORE BECAUSE OF HOW FAST PEOPLE CAN DRIVE ON BELTWAY. GIVEN THAT 34 FOOT WIDTH. I THINK WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED ON BELTWAY. UM, THE, THE TRAFFIC CALMING. KEVIN AND I HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN INVOLVED IN TRAFFIC CALMING TR UH, ROAD DIET PROJECTS, NOT EVEN PART OF OUR PROJECTS SITTING ON NON-PROFIT COMMITTEES THAT SUPPORT THAT. I THINK IT WILL GO A LONG WAY TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY ON BELTWAY, SLOWING CARS DOWN AND IMPROVING PEDESTRIAN FLOW WITH THE BIKE LANE. SO THRILLED THAT THAT'S PART OF IT. AND ALSO THRILLED THAT I DON'T THINK THIS PROJECT WILL, UM, PUT A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON BELTWAY AND INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. UH, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HEARD A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OKAY, SO WHAT ELSE CAN YOU DO THOUGH TO ADDRESS THAT? AND SO WE'VE LOOKED AT WAYS TO IMPROVE, MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON SURVEYOR TO ADDRESS THOSE. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, AT THE ONSET OF THIS PROJECT WE DID, UM, LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET THIS THING TO WORK. I DON'T EVEN KNOW. I SEE IT ON THE WALL, BUT I DON'T SEE ON THE SCREEN. I NEED GLASSES. BUT, UM, , I DON'T THINK IT'S ON THE SCREEN, BUT ESSENTIALLY, UM, WHAT WE DID IS WHEN WE STARTED OFF, WE HAD FORCE RIGHT OUT. SO IF YOU'RE COMING [02:15:01] OUT OF THE PROJECT AND IT, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT THERE ON THE SCREEN, UM, WHERE WE HAVE THAT RED MEDIAN, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE INS AND OUTS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE MEDIAN THAT'S ENTERING THE PROJECT ON SURVEYOR BETWEEN THE MULTIFAMILY AND THE TOWN HOMES. SO WE FORCED A WRITE OUT ONTO BELTLINE OR, YOU KNOW, OUT ON SURVEYORS, SO YOU'RE FORCED TO GO OUT TO BELTLINE THAT WE DID, YOU KNOW, WITH STAFF'S, UM, INPUT AND, AND PRESENTED THAT AT THE ONSET OF OUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS. WE ALSO HEARD, YOU KNOW, HEARING WHAT WE HEARD, WE THOUGHT, WHAT ELSE COULD WE DO? UM, SO WE AGREED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT MEETING. THAT CAME RIGHT AFTER PLANNING AND ZONING. THAT WAS SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD COMING OUT OF THAT MEETING. UH, I THINK WE CALLED KEN, LIKE FIRST THING THE NEXT DAY. LOOKED AT WAYS TO IMPROVE THAT MEDIAN. AND SO YOU'LL HAVE A MEDIAN THAT'S A COMBINATION OF HARDSCAPE AND LANDSCAPE THAT WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY TRY TO PREVENT, UM, BAD BEHAVIOR. UH, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAD A FORCE RIGHT HAND TURN, SO THIS IS FORCING SOMEONE TO JUMP A CURB, UH, AS WELL. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WILL SOMEONE STILL DO IT? I MAYBE, BUT I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. UM, AND I THINK GIVEN THE OBSTACLES WE'RE PUTTING IN THEIR PLACE, HIGHLY UNLIKELY YOU'LL SEE MUCH CURB JUMPING. UM, AND SO WE ALSO LOOK TO REDUCE INFLOW BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC TRAVELING NORTH ON SURVEYOR ENTERING OUR PROJECT. SO PREVIOUSLY THAT CURB CUT WAS A LITTLE BIT WIDER ENTERING OUR PROJECT, HEADING NORTH ON SURVEYOR, HEADING EAST INTO OUR PROJECT. SO WE REDUCED IT FROM TWO LANES TO ONE LANE. 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T NEED TWO LANES. IT'S A MUCH BETTER DESIGN. UM, WE LIKE THE TIGHTER CURB CUT CONDITION AS WELL. UM, SO PLEASED, UM, WITH THESE IMPROVEMENTS. IT WAS GREAT FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD. AND I THINK OVERALL, NOT ONLY IS IT IMPROVEMENT FOR OUR PROJECT, UM, IT'S IMPROVEMENT FOR, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MENTIONED, WE BELIEVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC FLOWS GONNA COME IN AND OUT OF BELTLINE. WE BELIEVE IT SO MUCH WE'RE GONNA DESIGN OUR GARAGE SO THAT IT FORCES PEOPLE TO BEHAVE THAT WAY. UM, SO INSTEAD OF HAVING A RAMP OFF, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE ARE, THIS GARAGE IS LARGE AND IT'S 180 FEET WIDE, A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET LONG. SO THAT'S THREE BAYS OF PARKING. UM, WE HAVE A 130 SPACES OF RETAIL PARKING THAT LARGELY IS GONNA LIVE AT GRADE. UM, WITHIN THAT SAME AREA ON LEVEL ONE, WE WILL HAVE A RAMP. THAT RAMP IS, WILL BE THE RAMP THAT RESIDENTS TAKE TO GET UP TO THEIR PARKING. UM, AS WE'VE ALL EXPERIENCED, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE GOING SOMEPLACE THAT YOU KNOW WHERE TO GO AND NOBODY ELSE DOES BECAUSE IT'S A RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER OR SOMETHING ELSE, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET WHERE YOU KNOW YOU NEED TO GO AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS EXPERIENCING THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME AND THEY'RE BACKING UP, THEY'RE SLOWING YOU DOWN. THAT'S REALLY ANNOYING, ESPECIALLY IN, UH, AN APARTMENT PROJECT BECAUSE YOU LIVE THERE, YOU KNOW WHERE TO GO. UM, AND THEN THERE'S PEOPLE VISITING RESTAURANTS AND WHATNOT MAYBE FOR THE FIRST TIME, MAYBE ONCE A MONTH. AND SO THEY'RE ALWAYS, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY'RE EXPERIENCING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME. SO ALL THAT BEING SAID, RESIDENTS TRY VERY HARD TO AVOID INTERACTING WITH RETAIL PATRONS AND PARKERS FOR THAT VERY REASON. AND SO BY US PUTTING THE RAMP SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU PULL INTO OUR GARAGE, IT GOES DIRECTLY UP AND WE HAVE THAT RAMP GOING DIRECTLY UP OFF OF BELTLINE. IF FOLKS COME FROM THE SOUTH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THAT GARAGE, UM, AND BE ANNOYED BY RETAIL PARKERS AND OR CIRCLE COMPLETELY AROUND THE PROJECT AND AVOID OTHER PEDESTRIANS AND WHATNOT THAT ARE OCCURRING ON THAT RETAIL PLAZA. THAT'S A LOT. UM, ALL THOSE THINGS WILL SLOW PEOPLE DOWN. THEY WILL TAKE THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE. UM, HUMAN NATURE WOULD TELL YOU THAT. AND THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO ENTER OFF A BELT LINE, GO STRAIGHT UP THAT RAMP AND GET TO THEIR PARKING. 'CAUSE THE BEAUTY OF THESE PROJECTS TOO, IS THEY'RE ALSO GONNA WANT TO GET IN THAT GARAGE. THEY'RE NOT GONNA WANNA PARK IN ALL THE SURFACE SPOTS THAT WE'RE CREATING BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PARK ON THE LEVEL THAT THEY LIVE ON. THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THESE WRAP PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL THE LEVEL OF THESE PARKING GARAGES LINE UP THE, THE LEVEL THAT PEOPLE LIVE IN. IT'S REALLY CONVENIENT AND NICE. SO THEY'RE GONNA SEEK OUT THAT RAMP, DRIVE TO THE LEVEL THAT THEY LIVE ON, PARK THEIR CAR AND WALK INTO THEIR UNIT. AND THAT WAS ANOTHER CHANGE THAT WE MADE AFTER SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED. AND SO, UM, WITH THAT, UM, TWO SLIDES LEFT. UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY IN SOME PAST MEETINGS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR FOUR YEAR, GOING ON FOUR YEARS. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE POINT IN THIS PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE COMMITTED THOUSANDS OF HOURS, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. UM, IN ADDITION, TOWN STAFF HAS EXPANDED SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES TO SHAPE THE PROJECT. UM, AND WE'RE THANKFUL THAT THEY HELPED 'CAUSE IT MADE IT BETTER. UM, AND, AND REALLY SHAPE IT IN A WAY THAT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TOWN'S LAND USE PLANS. UM, GIVEN THE LEVEL OF INVESTMENT AND EFFORT, UM, WE ARE VERY STRATEGIC IN OUR PURSUITS AS A COMPANY. THAT'S A BIG TIME COMMITMENT. IT'S A BIG FINANCIAL COMMITMENT. WE PURSUE BEST IN CLASS DEVELOPMENT SITES, IN BEST IN CLASS TOWNS AND CITIES. UM, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. UM, AND WHILE WE OFTEN PURSUE SITES THAT REQUIRE A REZONE, WE ONLY DO SO AFTER CAREFUL CONSIDERATION, UM, [02:20:01] YOU KNOW, WE STUDY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UM, WE STUDY THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THIS PLAN REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE LAND USE PLAN. WE JUST LOOK AT THE SITE AND WE LOOK AT WHAT'S AROUND IT, AND WE THINK, IS THIS APPROPRIATE? DO WE REALLY THINK THIS SHOULD GO HERE? WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND FOUR YEARS OF OUR LIVES WORKING ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND FORCE SOMETHING, TRY TO FORCE SOMETHING, UM, THAT JUST ISN'T APPROPRIATE. UM, AND THEN WE DISCUSS AND REVIEW OUR PLANS WITH STAFF. AND ONCE WE DEVELOP A THOUGHTFUL PLAN, AS THOUGHTFUL AS WE CAN, UM, WE, YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE READING AND WE'RE HEARING, WE ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE. AND, AND I THINK Y'ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB BETTER THAN, UM, SOME OTHER CITIES. AND SO, UM, AND THIS IS THE EXACT, YOU KNOW, PROCESS THAT WE TOOK ON THIS PROJECT. AND I KNOW THIS DECISION'S NOT EASY. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF SIGNS, UM, AND I, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF VOICES AND SO WE APPRECIATE THAT THIS COME IS A BIG DECISION FOR YOU GUYS. UM, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT FOR THE TOWN FOR NUMEROUS REASONS. UM, I KNOW A LOT OF YOU HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ASKING 34 QUESTIONS AND TOURING SOME OF OUR PROJECTS. WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE'RE PROUD OF OUR PROJECTS. WE'RE GLAD, UM, SOME OF YOU HAVE MADE IT, UM, TO VISIT THEM. AND SO I'VE SAID IT ENOUGH, UM, PROBABLY ABOUT TOWN STAFF, BUT I WROTE IT DOWN SO I'M GONNA SAY IT AGAIN. IT'S BEEN A JOY WORKING WITH 'EM. UM, AND UM, AS I MENTIONED IN PAST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, WE FIRST PURSUED THIS SITE WITHOUT HAVING THE OFFICE TRACKED UNDER CONTRACT. UM, A QUESTION WAS ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHAT MAKES THIS SITE EXCEPTIONAL? I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WORD WAS USED. UM, BUT I WOULD TELL YOU WHEN WE BROUGHT THE SITE WITHOUT THE OFFICE TRACKED, IT WAS NOT EXCEPTIONAL. UH, THAT LEASE WAS STAFF'S VIEW. UM, IT WAS A GOOD SITE AND WE COULD HAVE ACHIEVED A LOT OF WHAT YOU'VE SEEN HERE, BUT IT WAS NOT EXCEPTIONAL. AND I AGREED WITH STAFF. I I UNDERSTOOD WHAT THEY WERE SAYING. I UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS WAS A STRATEGIC REDEVELOPMENT TRACK THAT WAS QUITE SIGNIFICANT FOR THE TOWN. 10 ACRES, PRIME INTERSECTION. UM, AND THEY FELT LIKE THE TOWN DESERVED BETTER. AND, AND, AND, AND YOU DID. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME AND MONEY TO, TO PURSUE THAT OFFICE OWNER. UM, THE OFFICE OWNER ACTUALLY, UM, IS A PARTNER IN THAT LAW FIRM. AND SO, AND THEY, I THINK USED THAT BUILDING LARGELY AS A CALL CENTER. BUT, UM, WE PURSUED THAT HARD AND ULTIMATELY GOT IT UNDER CONTRACT. SO WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY MULTIPLE TRACKS UNDER CONTRACT FROM TWO DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS. UM, ONE OF THOSE STAKEHOLDERS I THINK HAS TRIED TO REZONE AND, AND PUT A RESTAURANT HERE YEARS AND YEARS AGO AND WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL. UM, BUT A LARGE RESTAURANT GROUP OWNS LARGELY ALL THAT FRONTAGE ON BELTLINE. UM, AND, AND BOTH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE, HAVE GIVEN US THE TIME TO, TO, TO GET TO THIS POINT TONIGHT. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF IT DOESN'T GET APPROVED TONIGHT? I CAN'T TELL YOU. UM, I'M NOT SURE. YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY WE, WE WILL NOT BUY IT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT. UM, IT ONLY WORKS FOR US TO DEVELOP THIS SITE WITH THE ZONING THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. UM, AND, AND ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS THAT, UM, WE'LL HAVE A DECISION TO MAKE. AND IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME WHAT THAT DECISION WILL BE. BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT TIMEFRAMES SURROUNDING THAT, WE'RE GOING ON FOUR YEARS. UH, WE GOT ANOTHER YEAR TO GO BEFORE WE COULD START CONSTRUCTION. WE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME AND MONEY TO GET TO THIS POINT TONIGHT. BUT WE GOTTA WASTE TO GO . WE HAVE TO FINISH OUR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, WE GOTTA GET THROUGH THE INTENSIVE PERMITTING PROCESS. UH, WE GOTTA BUILD THE PROJECT BUILDING. THE PROJECT'S GONNA TAKE 22 TO 24 MONTHS. UH, WE START THE LEASE UP OF THAT WHILE WE'RE STILL FINISHING CONSTRUCTION. WE PHASE THE DELIVERY OF UNITS. SO ULTIMATELY FROM THE BEGINNING OF CONSTRUCTION TO LEASE UP IF EVERYTHING ACCORDING GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN, IT'S ABOUT 30 MONTHS AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY. UM, IT IS OUR GOAL AND OUR PLAN TO, UM, SELL THE TOWN HOMES TO ANOTHER DEVELOPER, UM, AND, UH, FOR SALE, A TOWN HOME DEVELOPER. AND IT'S OUR GOAL TO HAVE THOSE COMPLETE WHEN WE'RE COMPLETE. THE WORST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN IS THAT IT DRAGS OUT AND THAT THERE'S CONSTRUCTION AND DISRUPTION OCCURRING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR PROJECT. AND SO THAT IS OUR GOAL. YOU ADD ALL THAT UP, UH, OR PLUS ONE, PLUS THREE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEVEN AND A HALF, EIGHT YEARS FROM PURSUIT TO FINISHING THIS PROJECT. SO I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF, IF IT DIDN'T GET APPROVED. ALL I COULD SAY IS IT'S PROBABLY MOST LIKELY TO BE SPLIT BACK APART, CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS A CALL CENTER, OFFICE BUILDING AND CONTINUE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, BE PAD SITES AND LIKELY YOU'LL SEE THAT CORNER GET RELEASED TO SOMEBODY, WHETHER IT'S A BANK OR A RESTAURANT, I DON'T KNOW. BUT THAT'S PROBABLY A 10 TO 20 YEAR EITHER BUILDING LEASE OR GROUND LEASE AT THAT HARD CORNER. 'CAUSE IT'S A PRIME CORNER. AND THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT I WOULD EXPECT TO HAPPEN, WHICH COULD PUT REDEVELOPMENT OUT 10 TO 20 YEARS WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE EITHER TRIES TO PUT THE WHOLE 10 ACRES TOGETHER OR THE TOWN'S VIEW OF, OF A REDEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE'S CHANGES. AND IT COULD GET REDEVELOPED WITHOUT THE OFFICE TRACK. BUT I DO THINK IT'S UNLIKELY TO THINK THAT YOU COULD PULL IT ALL TOGETHER AGAIN [02:25:01] AND PULL IT ALL TOGETHER TO TRY TO, UM, REZONE IT AGAIN WITH TWO DIFFERENT OWNERSHIP GROUPS. I THINK THEY'LL PROBABLY BE FATIGUED BY THAT POINT. AND SO, UM, THAT'S JUST THE ANSWER TO QUESTION. UM, IT'S, THIS IS THE REALITY WE LIVE. UM, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY WE'RE, WE, WE BELIEVE OUR, OUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT COMPLIES WITH THE TOWN'S LAND USE PLAN WILL SERVE AS A CATALYST FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF WEST BELTLINE AND WE'LL INCREASE THE TOWN'S TAX ASSESSMENT. I THINK 12 FOLD WAS OUR MATH. UM, THAT ALONE IS NOT A REASON TO DO IT, BUT I THINK WE'VE POINTED OUT A LOT OF OTHER REASONS TO DO IT. AND SO WITH THAT, I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE, FOR LISTENING TO ME FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND ALL THE TIME THAT EVERYBODY'S GIVEN US TONIGHT AND ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU, JOEL. AND, UH, FIRST OF ALL, WE DO APPRECIATE THE TIME AND ENERGY AND, AND MONEY THAT YOU ALL HAVE INVESTED IN US ALREADY TODAY TO, UH, TO, UH, TO PURSUE THIS PROJECT IN ADDISON. SO WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH AND WE KNOW YOU ALL ARE A, UH, FIRST CLASS OPERATION. SO QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL FOR THE APPLICANT. GQ CURRENTLY, NO. MAYOR EILEEN, I HAVE ONE ON, CAN WE GO TO SLIDE 17? OH, KEEP GOING. OH NO, THAT'S IT. SO CAN YOU TELL, SHE TALKED ABOUT THE BOLLARDS AND BEING ABLE TO BLOCK THAT OFF. CAN YOU TELL ME, 'CAUSE TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE PARKING LOT, BUT IT ALSO LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING IN WHAT MIGHT BE A PARK AREA. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME? YEAH, AND I WISH THIS COULD, DOESN'T HIGHLIGHT ON THE SCREEN, SO LET'S GO UP AND POINT. THAT'S OKAY. UM, WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IS, I MEAN, CARS CAN TRAVEL THROUGH HERE. THIS IS THAT ROAD THAT WRAPS BACK AROUND, BUT, UM, WELL WE CAN SHUT, BOLLARDS COULD SHUT DOWN THIS AREA FOR FESTIVALS. AND SO THE BOLLARDS ARE AT THE SOUTH END, COULD BE BACK HERE AND ENTRY IN HERE. SO YOU WOULDN'T DO IT ALL THE TIME. GOT IT. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT, YOU COULD SHUT IT DOWN AND HAVE A REALLY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY FARMER'S MARKET FESTIVAL TYPE THING. UM, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ENHANCED PAID, REALLY ENCOURAGE THAT. AND NEITHER OF THOSE BLOCK ENTRANCE TO THE PARKING GARAGE, I THINK, NO, THE GARAGE IS, UH, SO WE'RE LOOKING THIS WAY, THE GARAGE ENTRANCE IN BACK HERE, WHICH IS BACK THAT WAY AND THERE'S ONE ON THE SIDE RIGHT ENTRANCE. YEAH. AND SO THAT ONE WOULD BE BLOCKED, RIGHT? KIND OF. IT COULD BE, YES. BUT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TWO POINTS. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? MARLON? THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, JOEL, ONE OF THE THING, I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANNA SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT, UH, RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND, UM, SOMETHING KIND OF UNUSUAL THAT I HAD NEVER HEARD BEFORE IN MY FOUR AND A HALF YEARS OR SO, IS, IS SOME OF 'EM WERE AGAINST THIS PROJECT AND, AND, UH, A LOT, A GOOD AMOUNT WERE OKAY, UM, OF THE COMMUNICATIONS I RECEIVED, BUT ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THEM SAID, WE LOVE TRAMMELL CROW. I MEAN, WE LOVE THE BRAND, WE LOVE THE NAME, AND I'VE JUST NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE. A VERY, UM, THEY WERE VERY COMPLIMENTARY IN THAT WAY. UM, SO I WANTED, I WANTED TO SHARE, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE THOUGHTS WITH YOU. UM, THE, THE OTHER, WE TALKED, I ASKED SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SIDEWALK, UH, ALONG BELTLINE, AND IT'S, RIGHT NOW IT'S PROPOSED AS A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK. UM, WOULD IT, WOULD IT AFFECT YOU IN ANY WAY NEGATIVELY IF THAT WERE CHANGED TO AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK AND WE JUST HAD MORE GREEN, UM, GREENSCAPE IN THERE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AWAY FROM BELTLINE? I MEAN, I WOULD ECHO KEN'S POSITION ON THAT. I MEAN, I WOULDN'T, I I'M NOT GONNA FALL MY SWORD ON EIGHT. I I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION BASED OFF OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON EITHER SIDE. AND SO WE, WE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY FINE WITH EIGHT. WE WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE WITH LESS THAN EIGHT. UM, YOU'D BE OPEN, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD ECHO WHAT KEN SAID ABOUT, I MEAN, I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH EVERYTHING KEN SAID ON THAT TOPIC. UH, WE A LOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY MUCH ALIGNED IN HOW HE THINKS ABOUT THAT PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE. AND, BUT I, BUT I ALSO APPRECIATE, LIKE, IF YOU'RE NARROW ON BOTH ENDS, YOU'RE KIND OF LIKE, WELL, WHERE ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE COMING FROM? LIKE, IF, IF THEY'RE COMING FROM SIX AND EIGHT, WHY DO YOU NEED TO EXPAND IT TO 10? AND SO, UH, WE'RE, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY MAKE THAT CHANGE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN WANTS US TO MAKE. OKAY. OKAY. AND I'M SPECIFIC ABOUT EIGHT FEET, NOT SIX FEET, 12 FEET. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS, IS WHEN WE, UH, WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER GARDNER AND I, WHEN WE TOURED A COUPLE OTHER FACILITIES, UM, WE, WE BOTH AGREED, WE WERE INCREDIBLY, UH, IMPRESSED WITH A WORKOUT, UM, FACILITY, BOTH OF THEM. [02:30:01] AND THEY LOOKED, UH, VERY SIMILAR. THEY WERE VERY IMPRESSIVE. AND, AND I COULD SEE WHERE, WHERE, UH, IF YOU LIVED THERE, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD WANT TO USE THAT AND, AND MAYBE NOT USE ANOTHER PLACE TO WORK OUT. UM, BUT SO THAT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE IN BOTH OF THOSE LOCATIONS. BUT DO YOU, CAN YOU TELL US ON, ON THIS, THIS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ABOUT MAYBE SOME OTHER AMENITIES? ARE YOU GONNA HAVE A POOL OR A COUPLE POOLS OR, OR CAN YOU ELABORATE ON, UM, AMENITIES LIKE A, A POOL OR OTHERWISE? YEAH, SO WE WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT FITNESS CENTER. UM, SO I THINK THE ONE YOU TWO OR TWO, IF YOU WENT TO THOSE TWO PROPERTIES, THEY'RE AROUND 2,500 TO 3000 SQUARE FEET. UH, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THIS BEING VERY SIMILAR TO THE MONTGOMERY. THE LEGACY SQUARE ONE IS VERY UNIQUE WITH THE TALL CEILINGS AND THE, UM, BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO THIS. SO A VERY, UM, LARGE AMOUNT OF FREE WEIGHTS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT AND CARDIO EQUIPMENT. SO WE WOULD'VE, THAT, WE WOULD'VE A BUSINESS CENTER, ESPECIALLY IN THIS DAY AND AGE WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING FLEXIBLE WORK DAYS, YOU KNOW, GOING TO THE OFFICE, YOU KNOW, THREE TO FOUR DAYS A WEEK HAVING A REALLY, UM, SIGNIFICANT WORK BUSINESS CENTER, ZOOM ROOMS, CONFERENCE FACILITIES. UM, THE MONTGOMERY PROJECT IN ALLEN HAD AN ENTIRE SECOND FLOOR ABOVE THE LEASING CENTER DEDICATED TO THAT GET TO A LOT OF USE. UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REALLY LEANING IN ON A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS NOW BECAUSE OF IT'S JUST GETTING A LOT MORE USE. 'CAUSE A LOT MORE PEOPLE HAVE FLEXIBLE WORK DAYS. UM, AND THEN YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE A, A COMMUNITY LOUNGE THAT WOULD HAVE SEATING AREAS, EATING AREAS, GAMING AREAS, UM, PROBABLY SIMILAR IN DESIGN AS THE MON MONTGOMERY WHERE THEY KIND OF BLEED INTO EACH OTHER. AND YES, MULTIPLE COURTYARDS, I THINK ON THE PLAN. I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR BACK I HAVE TO GO, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU SEE HAVE THREE ENCLOSED COURTYARDS THAT ARE IN THE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING. ALL THE, THE GREEN THAT'S ON THE SCREEN, THE LARGEST ONE WOULD BE WHERE THE POOL IS JUST FOR SUN. UM, THE OTHER ONES WOULD BE SMALLER QUAD OR CALMER COURTYARDS. NOT TO SAY THE POOL ONE'S CRAZY, BUT IT'S GONNA BE MORE ACTIVE THAN, UH, THE, THE SMALLER COURTYARDS. AND SO, UM, AND THEN DOG PARK ON THE FAR EAST SIDE THERE, JUST NORTH OF THE, THE TOWN HOMES. UM, THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED, UM, OR A QUESTION OR MENTIONED ABOUT PICKLEBALL. UM, WE DON'T SEE ROOM FOR IT ON THE SITE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A BIG SITE. PICKLEBALL DOES MAKE A GOOD AMOUNT OF NOISE. UH, WE'RE RELUCTANT TO PUT PICKLEBALL IN THE ACTUAL COURTYARDS BECAUSE THE NOISE THAT THAT WOULD PRODUCE FOR THE RESIDENTS. AND THE ONLY SPOT WE SEE THAT WE COULD HAVE ROOM FOR IT WOULD BE WHERE WE HAVE THE DOG PARK. AND SO TO PRIORITIZE, UM, WE'VE LOOKED TO NOT HAVE THE PICKLEBALL AS, AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. UM, BUT WE'LL LOOK TO HAVE OTHER AMENITIES. AND IF IT'S NOT PICKLEBALL, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, I, ONE OF THE IMAGES YOU MIGHT'VE SEEN IN AT THE MONTGOMERY AND ALLEN IS WE HAVE BOCCE BALL. UH, WE HAVE OTHER GAMES THAT ARE FUN THAT, BUT YET QUIETER, UM, BECAUSE IT IS, IS PEOPLE'S HOMES. AND WE TRY TO JUST NOT HAVE THAT NOISE. OKAY. AND JUST ONE LAST QUESTION. I I, FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE, UH, WHAT YOU ALL PUT TOGETHER ON THESE SURVEYOR IMPROVEMENTS. UM, THAT'S GREAT. UM, WHEN YOU WERE, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING THROUGH THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOT A SLIDE THAT CAN CAN SHOW THAT OR NOT, BUT WHEN YOU WERE TALKING THROUGH THAT, UM, DID YOU, DID YOU DISCUSS, THERE YOU GO. PERFECT. UM, DID YOU DISCUSS THE, THE FOLKS THAT'LL COME OUT OF THERE AND THEY'LL GO NORTH TOWARDS BELTLINE, BUT AT THE END OF THAT THEY'LL, THEY'LL TAKE A U-TURN, THEY'LL MAYBE TAKE, THEY'LL PROBABLY GO LEFT INTO THE OFFICE COMPLEX OFFICE COMPLEX, THE FORUM, UM, AND, AND TRAVERSE BACK. DID YOU ALL HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MAYBE MAKING THAT MEDIAN LONGER OR DID YOU DISCUSS THAT AT ALL? I THINK THE MEDIAN, EXCUSE ME, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NOT BLOCK ACCESS INTO, UH, THAT COMPLEX AND THAT EXISTING RESTAURANT, RIGHT? THAT I THINK IT'S A, THERE'S A RESTAURANT IN THERE THAT, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ACTUALLY PATRON THERE BLOCK BLOCK ACCESS FROM NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC ON SURVEYOR FOR THAT ONE ACCESS POINT. OKAY. YEAH. SO THIS IS THE OFFICE COMPLEX WITH THE ION RESTAURANT, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. SO THAT WAS THE THOUGHT. OKAY. GOT IT. THANK YOU. I WOULD ADD THAT THAT'S A TOUGH U-TURN. THOSE LANES ARE ONLY 14 FEET. YEAH. AND I WAS, I WAS THINKING LESS ABOUT THE U-TURN AND, AND MORE ABOUT KIND OF THE U-TURN THROUGH THE FORUM. THANK YOU. . ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, A FEW QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU DARREN. I GO LAST. UM, SO ON THE TOWNHOME, UH, PHASING, [02:35:01] YOU TOUCHED ON THAT AND KEN TALKED ABOUT THIS ALSO. AND I THINK THE, WHAT KEN HAD ADDRESSED AND WHAT I SAW IN THE COMMISSION REPORT WAS THAT IT WAS KIND OF, UM, LIKE A SAFETY VALVE. IF THE TOWN HOME, UH, PROJECT PART OF IT FELL THROUGH, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. SO REALLY MY QUESTION IS MORE, UM, WHAT'S THE PHASING OF IT? WHAT'S, WHEN ARE THE TOWN HOMES GONNA BE COMPLETED? AND IN RELATION TO THE APARTMENTS BEING COMPLETED, OUR BUSINESS PLAN IS FOR THEM TO BE COMPLETED AT THE SAME TIME THE APARTMENTS ARE COMPLETED. UH, THEY TAKE A LOT LESS TIME TO BUILD, UH, TO BUILD 25 TOWN HOMES. LIKE THAT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE ABOUT 14 MONTHS, UM, TO 15 MONTHS. AND SO, AND THAT'S FROM WHEN THEY HAVE LIKE A, A PAD READY SITE. ALL THE HORIZONTAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE DONE. SO WE WOULD LOOK TO START THOSE, UM, ONCE THAT FLAT WORK OR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WORK IS DONE ON THE SITE AND COMPLETE THEM AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE COMPLETING THE REST OF THE PROJECT. IS, IS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE PART OF YOUR PROJECT? YES. OKAY. SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT READY TO GO FOR THEM. SO THEY HAVE ALL OF THAT TAKEN CARE OF. OUR, LIKE, OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH, UM, TOWN HOME BUILDERS IS TO DELIVER IMPROVED, UM, SITE TO THEM TO BUILD PAD READY SITE FOR TOWN HOMES. SO WHO HAS CONTROL OVER THE QUALITY SELECTION OF THE TOWNHOME DEVELOPER? WELL, WE WILL BE VERY INTERESTED IN THAT. UM, JUST GIVEN IT'S, IT'S A SMALL COMPONENT OF A MUCH LARGER PROJECT. SO, UM, THIS SIMILAR COMMENTS WE MADE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE RETAIL PLAZA AND OUR DESIRE TO CONTROL THAT. UH, WE HAVE A SIMILAR FEELING ABOUT THE TOWN HOMES BECAUSE IN THE WHOLE SCHEME OF THINGS, THE, THE, THE PARTNERS OF OURS THAT ARE GONNA PARTNER TO BUILD THESE TOWN HOMES WILL BE VERY, VERY, UM, FOCUSED ON WHAT HAPPENS AROUND US. I IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO US. AND SO WE WILL HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE AND SIGNIFICANCE OF OUR INVESTMENT DEMANDS IT, UM, THAT WE, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S A HIGH QUALITY PROJECT. SO YOU'VE ALREADY SELECTED REBS AS YOUR PARTNER FOR THE, UH, RESTAURANTS. ANY SELECTION FOR THE TOWN HOMES? WE'RE NEGOTIATING L O I WITH, UM, A, A TOWN HOME BUILDER, BUT WE HAVEN'T SIGNED IT YET. UM, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, AND WE HAVEN'T SIGNED IT 'CAUSE WE REALLY HONESTLY WERE JUST FOCUSED ON HAVING SOMETHING TO SIGN IT FOR LIKE GETTING THROUGH TONIGHT. BUT, UM, WE UH, DID ASK THEM TODAY IN TERMS OF LIKE HOW THEY ANTICIPATE PRICING THEM. AND IT'S AROUND 5 75 TO SIX AND A QUARTER IS THE PRICING THAT THEY'RE ANTICIPATING. OKAY. THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ON THE, UH, WHAT'S THE PHASING OF THE, UH, RESTAURANTS ALSO, WHEN WOULD THE RESTAURANTS, IF THIS GOES THROUGH, WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO BE OPEN AND OPERATIONAL? SO THERE'S COULD BE A RESTAURANT THAT'S UNDERNEATH THE, WELL MARKET CONDITIONS WOULD BE, BUT OUR, OUR EXPECTATIONS WOULD BE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SUBJECT TO MARKET CONDITIONS THAT WE WOULD BE OPENING THEM WHEN WE FINISHED THE PROJECT. I THINK WE HAVE COMMITTED TO IMPROVING THAT PUBLIC PLAZA, RETAIL PLAZA, UM, AND, AND GETTING TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE A PERMIT ON THAT PROJECT, BUT NOT BUILDING THEM BECAUSE YOU, WHAT YOU SAW IN SOME OF THOSE, UM, PICTURES IS VERY UNIQUE ARCHITECTURE, VERY UNIQUE BUILDINGS THAT ARE VERY, I THINK WE COULD FAIL IF WE AS A DEVELOPER JUST SAY, HEY, RESTAURANT OPERATOR, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO, TO GET, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE BEST RESTAURANTS WE ALL LIKE TO GO TO, THEY'RE UNIQUE TO THAT OPERATOR. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO WORK WITH REISS TO FIND OPERATORS WHILE THEY OPERATE BILLY CANCAN, THEY HAVE A BIG NETWORK OF, UM, RESTAURATEURS THAT THEY WORK WITH AND HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THAT WE WOULD OUTREACH TO, TO BRING MORE PEOPLE HERE. SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY INVESTED IN ADDISON THAT ARE ON OUR LIST THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO EXPAND, UM, TO THIS LOCATION. BUT WE'D WANNA WORK WITH 'EM TO DEVELOP A REALLY, A BUILDING DESIGN THAT WORKS RIGHT FOR THEIR CONCEPT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE. SO I'M, I'M ASKING ALL THESE QUESTIONS 'CAUSE PEOPLE ASK ME THESE QUESTIONS. UH, MY CONSTITUENTS, THE RESIDENTS, UH, ASK THESE QUESTIONS AND I GET MORE THAN THREE MINUTES. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS. UM, ON, UH, THE BELTWAY TRAFFIC ISSUES, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT TRAFFIC SLIDE? THE DUMB DOWN ONE THAT'S GOT THE ARROWS ON IT? THAT ONE? YEAH. I SAY DUMB DOWN FOR ME. THANK YOU. THAT WORKS. THIS IS FOR ME, BUT YEAH. UM, SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT YOU EXPECT IN THOSE DIRECTIONS 10 AND FIVE, UH, PER, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WHY SURVEYOR GOING SOUTH AND BELTWAY THAT INTERSECTION, THAT SMALL NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC IMPACT? UM, POINT OF CLARIFICATION. OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS ARE TELLING US THAT LIKE I, BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO BE, UM, CUTE, BUT LIKE YEAH, I MEAN I, THAT'S WHAT THEY TELL US BASED OFF OF THEIR EXPERTISE IN THAT FIELD. YEAH. AND A LITTLE MORE ON THE TRAFFIC. SO T I A [02:40:01] IS TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. AND THAT'S DONE BY A PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC ENGINEERS ENGINEERS. SO IT'S NOT DONE BY SOME AMATEUR LOOKING STUFF UP ON GOOGLE AND PULLING STATS FROM SOMEWHERE, PUTTING STUFF TO YOU. THESE ARE PROFESSIONALS? YES, IT WAS LEE ENGINEERING, IT WAS OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER. AND IT THEN IT'S REVIEWED BY Y'ALL'S, UM, ENGINEERING FIRM, WHICH I THINK IS KIMLEY HORN. OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT 'CAUSE I I DO, UM, THAT IS A BIG CONCERN FOR ME IS, IS THE TRAFFIC ON BELTWAY. UM, SO WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S SOME OF THE CALMING, AND THIS MAY BE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR CANON, WE MIGHT WANT TO DELAY IT. THE CALMING WHAT, WHAT'S MORE OF THE PLAN FOR CALMING TRAFFIC ON, ON BELTWAY? WE TALKED ABOUT THAT KIND OF ON, ON A SIDE. I'LL, I'LL JUST BRIEFLY ADDRESS IT. AS KEN SAID EARLIER, THE, THE BIGGEST COMPONENT OF THE CALMING MEASURES IS GONNA BE THE BIKE LANE THAT WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ON PREVIOUSLY. THE BIKE LANE ITSELF WILL NARROW THE ROAD AND WE'RE, WE'RE, THE INTENT IS THE HOPE IS THAT THAT WILL CALM THE TRAFFIC AND ALSO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE AT THE STOP SIGNS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ON THE GYM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURES THAT YOU HAD? YES. TRYING TO THINK WHERE IT'S, SO THESE DON'T LOOK LIKE RENDITIONS? THEY, THEY, THAT LOOKS LIKE WHAT I SAW TODAY WHEN I WENT AND LOOKED TODAY. OH THAT IS, YEAH, THESE ARE ACTUAL PICTURES. YEAH, THAT'S A PIC. THESE ARE PICTURES OF IT. YEAH. SO I LOOKED AT IT AGAIN TODAY. WE WENT OUT THERE AND THESE ARE PICTURES OF THEIR, THE PLACE, THE REASON I SAY THIS IS BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDISON, WELL FRANKLY, ALL OF THE UNITED STATES HAS NO MORE APARTMENTS. THIS IS NOT JUST ADDISON. NO MORE APARTMENTS. NEVER WILL. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. THE REASON THAT YOU HAVE THESE AMENITIES. WHAT'S THE REASON TO HAVE THESE KIND OF AMENITIES? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UH, , I THINK, YEAH. 'CAUSE YOU LOOK BACK AT APARTMENTS OVER THE YEARS. UM, SO I THINK SOME OF THE APARTMENTS THAT GET A, A BAD WRAP OR APARTMENTS THAT ARE 50, 60 YEARS OLD, THEY WERE BUILT VERY DIFFERENTLY. ONE, THEY WEREN'T BUILT TO THE SAME STANDARDS. UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU DRIVE BY AN OLD APARTMENT AND YOU'LL SEE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN KEPT UP. YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT ISSUE IS THEY HAVEN'T KEPT WATER OUT, THEY WEREN'T CONSTRUCTED IN THE MANNER THESE BUILDINGS ARE CONSTRUCTED IN. I MEAN, YOU HAVE A BUILDING THAT'S ATTACHED TO A CONCRETE GARAGE. THAT CONCRETE GARAGE IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. THE BUILDING AROUND IT CAN'T GO ANYWHERE. MY POINT OF SAYING THIS IS THESE ARE REALLY SIGNIFICANT BUILDINGS, VERY DIFFERENT THAN AN APARTMENT BUILDING THAT WAS BUILT 40 OR 50 YEARS AGO. AND SO YOU'RE MAKING A VERY SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT AND THEN IT'S MARKETING, RIGHT? WHAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, I, DURING ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, FOLKS WERE ASKING ABOUT CONDOS. WHY NOT MORE CONDOS? I'M NOT GONNA GO THERE UNLESS SOMEONE ASKED ME. BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS IN THAT RESEARCH, YOU KNOW, 228 CONDOS WERE BUILT IN THE LAST, UH, FIVE YEARS THAT WERE LET'S SAY 85 FEET AND BELOW MID-RISE CONDOS. 155,000 APARTMENTS WERE BUILT IN NORTH TEXAS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. THAT'S A LOT OF COMPETITION, . AND SO I THINK DEVELOPERS, OWNERS, UM, INVESTORS HAVE FIGURED OUT, YOU KNOW, THE BEST WAY TO, UM, DEVELOP, OWN, AND MANAGE APARTMENTS LONG TERM IS TO BUILD A SENSE OF COMMUNITY, TO HAVE AMENITIES. WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE LONG-TERM RESIDENTS. WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM A REASON TO, TO LEAVE. HOW DO YOU DO THAT? GREAT MANAGEMENT, GREAT AMENITIES, TAKING CARE OF THE BUILDING. YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL REASONS WHY PEOPLE WILL NOT LEAVE. AND IT'S A REASON WHY PEOPLE I THINK HAVE LEFT IN THE PAST BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS. SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS TRAFFIC. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. I THINK THAT'S VERY WELL MITIGATED THROUGH ALL THE RESEARCH AND STUDIED AND THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED AND, AND THAT WE'VE DONE. UM, CRIME IS THE OTHER ONE. SO OUR APARTMENTS CAUSE, CAUSE CRIME IS, IS THE LINE THAT PEOPLE SAY. UM, SO HOW DO YOU PREVENT THAT? HONESTLY, WE'VE, LIKE WE SHOWED YOU, WE HAVE PRETTY, UM, UM, SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE LIVING IN OUR APARTMENT PROJECTS, SPENDING EXPENDING, YOU KNOW, 20% OF THEIR INCOME ON HOUSING. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THAT ARE, UM, CAUSING CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITIES. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S NOT CRIME OCCURRING IN OUR COMMUNITIES, BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NOT THAT VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE CRIME I SEE OCCURRING IN SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS. WE GET A LOT OF, WE GET CAR BREAK-INS. I SEE IT HAPPENING WHERE I LIVE. I SEE IT HAPPENING WHERE MY COLLEAGUES LIVE. PICK A CITY IN NORTH TEXAS. IT HAPPENS. UM, THAT TO US IS THE BIGGEST CRIME WE WILL SEE IN PROJECTS IS JUST CARS BEING BROKEN INTO AND STEALING THINGS THAT ARE LEFT ON SEATS AND NOT LOCKED UP. UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WE RUN BACKGROUND CHECKS. WE HAVE VERY WELL QUALIFIED PEOPLE LIVING IN THESE BUILDINGS. UM, THAT'S THE CRIME WE SEE IN OUR PROJECTS. OKAY. YOU MENTIONED BEST IN CLASS PROPERTY MANAGERS ALSO. UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A COMPONENT FOR, UH, ADDRESSING CRIME, PREVENTING CRIME OF WHAT YOU, YOU GET WHAT YOU TOLERATE. UH, IT'S WHAT'S THE MIX OF ONE BEDROOMS TO [02:45:01] MORE THAN ONE BEDROOM? IT'S APPROXIMATELY 75, 20 5%. HOW BIG, WHAT'S THE SIZES OF THE, THE ONE BEDROOMS AS LOW AS 6 23 OR FOUR UP TO ABOUT A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. HOW MANY ARE, DO YOU, I ASKED ONE OF THESE QUESTIONS AND I THINK, I THINK YOU SAID THAT MANY OF 'EM ARE NOT THIS SUB 700 SQUARE FOOT SIZES. WE, WE HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT THAT ARE SIX 40. UM, BUT WE HAVE PLENTY THAT ARE SEVEN AND EIGHT, UM, A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT PERCENTAGES. UM, BUT IT'S IN A PRESENTATION. I SAW THAT. WHAT'S THAT? IT'S IN A PRESENTATION SOMEWHERE ON THE TABLE. YEAH, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO A UNIT MIX THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'D SEE AT ADDISON GROVE OR YOU'D SEE AT THE TREEHOUSE. I MEAN THE, WE'RE WE'RE ALL BUILDING WHAT KIND OF WHAT THE MARKET DEMANDS, BUILDING WHAT THE MARKET DEMANDS. OKAY. AND SO THIS THE, OKAY, I'M GONNA GO INTO THAT POLICY. WE WALKED THROUGH SOME OF THE, UH, UNITS AND, UM, THEY'RE VERY NICE. NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. MY, UH, I HAVEN'T LIVED IN APARTMENTS IN, IN MANY YEARS, MAYBE FOUR DECADES. AND, UM, BUT MY DAUGHTER DOES. AND SHE LIVED IN VITRUVIAN IN TWO DIFFERENT APARTMENTS. U D R MANAGED VITRUVIAN APARTMENTS, AND, UM, KIND OF COMPARING THOSE TO WHAT THE, THIS IS SO I HAVE A, AN UNDERSTANDING OF, OF APARTMENTS AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY CAN BE AND WHAT THEY ARE AND WHY THEY AREN'T MAYBE BETTER THAN THEY CAN BE. I'LL ASK THE TOWN MORE ABOUT THAT. UM, SO REY'S, UH, IT'S A QUESTION FOR THEM. WHAT REVENUE DO YOU EXPECT FROM THE COLLECTION OF RESTAURANTS IN THOSE THAT GIVES ME KIND OF A CALIBER OF THE RESTAURANTS THAT WE COULD EXPECT? UH, LIKE REVENUE? LET ME JUST ANNUAL REVENUE AT THE RESTAURANTS. WHAT KIND OF RESTAURANTS? IS IT A TACO BELL OR IS IT A POPEYE'S? DO YOU WANNA COME ON? I KNOW IT'S NOT EITHER OF THOSE. HI EVERYONE. WALLY DAVIS. UM, THIS MIX OF RESTAURANTS, I WOULD SAY FIRST OF ALL THAT WE'RE VERY FOCUSED ON BEST IN CLASS LOCAL OPERATORS, UM, GROUPS THAT WOULD BRING UNIQUE CONCEPTS. I THINK SOME OF THE CONCEPTS YOU THINK ABOUT IN ADDISON THAT DO REALLY WELL. SO, UH, YOU'D BE FAMILIAR WITH FRONT BURNER. WHO HAS IDA CLAIRE, UM, WHO HAS VELVET TACO WHO HAS WHISKEY CAKE. THAT WOULD BE A GROUP THAT I THINK WOULD BE A CANDIDATE FOR HERE. UH, HUDSON HOUSE, HUNTER POND AND HIS TEAM. GROUPS LIKE THAT ARE VERY HIGH QUALITY. UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF TEACHERS THOUGH, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD, WOULDN'T NECESSARILY DRIVE THE SAME TRAFFIC. MAYBE THE SAME COUPLE DIFFERENT, UH, EXPERIENCES THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. THINKING ABOUT MORNING EXPERIENCES, DATE NIGHTS, FAMILY EXPERIENCES, BALLGAME. UM, I WOULD SAY OVERALL WE'D BE TARGETING, YOU KNOW, UH, 600 TO 750 A FOOT IN, UH, PER SQUARE FOOT ANNUALLY FOR RESTAURANTS WITH SOME OF THEM GOING HIGHER. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR TOTAL SQUARE FEET? SO YOU THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT COFFEE SHOP THEY'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, NORTH OF, THEY'RE DOING CLOSE TO A MILLION. YOU'RE DOING 700,000, WHICH IS PRETTY GOOD FOR A MORNING CONCEPT COFFEE SHOP. UM, YOU THINK ABOUT OTHER RESTAURANTS IN THE CITY, I WOULD IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, UH, HUDSON HOUSE IS PROBABLY 3000 SQUARE FEET. UM, PROBABLY DOES, UH, CLOSE TO 800 SQUARE FEET OR NOT 800, UH, DOLLARS PER SQUARE FOOT, SO JUST UNDER 3 MILLION. UM, AND THOSE WOULD BE THE KIND OF THE TARGET NUMBERS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE. WHAT'S THE TOTAL, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF RESTAURANTS THAT YOU ANTICIPATE? THIS ONE WE HAVE, I WOULD SAY WHAT'S WORTH NOTING ABOUT THESE RESTAURANTS, UH, IS THAT WE'VE BROKEN THEM INTO SMALLER SPACES, MORE INTIMATE, A LITTLE MORE URBAN. UM, SO THAT THERE ISN'T REALLY GOING TO BE A LARGE PAD SITE ON THE OUTSIDE. UM, BUT I THINK THREE OR FOUR RESTAURANTS, UM, AGAIN, TARGETING DIFFERENT DAY TYPES, DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES, UH, IS, IS IS OUR STRATEGY FOR THIS PROJECT. OKAY. THANKS A LOT. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UH, ON THE, THE PARKS, THE DOG PARK, UM, IS THAT THE, SO DOG PARKS IS A BIG THING TO ADD. SOME PEOPLE HAVE DOGS AND I GO, GO TO THE DOG PARK DAILY, SOME OF YOU KNOW THAT SEE ME THERE. UM, IF WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE RESIDENTS, THEN THAT INCREASES THE TRAFFIC ON THAT RESOURCE, RIGHT? JUST LIKE WE TALK ABOUT THE GYM. SO YOU HAVE A DOG PARK ON SITE PLANNED? WHERE IS THAT? IN THE TOWN HOME AREA? NO, UH, IT'S OFF YOU SAID ON THE LEFT AND YEAH, YOU WANNA POINT OUT. OH, OKAY. OKAY, GOOD. UM, PLUG TO IT AGAIN. IT'S UH, GO ON THE OTHER SIDE. I KNOW IT'S THERE. SHOW ME. SO ONE LAST QUESTION ON, ON THE ITERATIONS OF THIS. SO THIS HAS BEEN [02:50:01] BREWING FOR FOUR YEARS AND A LOT OF RESIDENTS, UM, SAY THAT THERE, IT'S A SURPRISE TO THEM WHEN THIS COMES UP, IT POPS UP AND IT'S, WOW, IT'S JUST OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE JACK IN THE BOX. UM, HOW MANY IT ITERATIONS DID YOU GO THROUGH WITH THE TOWN WHERE THEY SAID, NO, THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH? WELL, ONE MAIN ONE. UM, AND THAT WAS WHEN WE, WE, WE WENT THROUGH MANY, I THINK KEVIN MENTIONED 12. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOWED ALL THOSE TO THE TOWN BECAUSE WE WEREN'T HAPPY WITH SOME OF 'EM, YOU KNOW. OKAY. SO, BUT ONE MAIN ONE WHERE WE SHOWED 'EM THE SITE WITHOUT THE OFFICE TRACK. SO THAT MADE US GO PURSUE THE OFFICE SITE. AND THEN AFTER THAT, A NUMBER OF ITERATIONS. AND I THINK THE, WE, WE LOOKED TO THE LAND USE PLAN AND THINK ABOUT APPROPRIATENESS OF USES AND THEN WE REALLY WANNA PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD. THIS PLAN'S IMPROVED GREATLY OVER THE YEARS. AND I SAY OVER THE YEARS, I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THE TOWN ADVANCING THIS FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS. WE PURSUED IT, COVID HAPPENED, IT DIED, IT CAME BACK, WE WORKED ON IT. I MEAN WE, IT'S, IT'S BEEN WORKED ON IN EARNEST OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, SIX TO NINE MONTHS. UM, BUT WE HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY PURSUING AND SPENDING MONEY AND OUR TIME AND EFFORT ON TRYING TO PUT IT TOGETHER FOR THAT FOUR YEAR PERIOD OF OKAY. JUST SO LAST SIX OR NINE MONTHS IS REALLY THE ENGAGEMENT OR HEAVY. YEAH, I MEAN IT REALLY IS REAL. YEAH. AND I THOUGHT THAT YOU HAD MET WITH ARBOR FOUNDATION LIKE A YEAR AGO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, QUITE SOME TIME AGO. WAS IT KIND OF DOING A JUST I'LL LOOK. UH, IT'S JUST ISH. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I UNDERSTAND. I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS. THANKS A LOT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS? ONE QUICK QUESTION, BILLY, IN THE PARKING GARAGE, I ASSUME THAT FOR THE RESIDENCE IT'S GATED. WE DO, YEAH. IT'S SUPER, FOR THE REASONS MENTIONED ABOUT BREAK-INS. YEAH. I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO, TO HAVE A HIGHER MIX OF TOWN HOMES AND THAT'S A QUESTION THAT, OR FEE SIMPLE I SUPPOSE, WOULD WE SAY? UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A THE BIG DESIRE OF, OF THE RESIDENTS OF ADDISON AS WELL. YEAH, AND UM, WE KNEW THAT, AND WE STUDIED THIS PLAN, UM, 1215, HOW MANY DIFFERENT WAYS WE, WE WOULD'VE LOVED TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT COULD WORK IN OUR FINANCIAL MODEL. AND, AND, AND WHEN I SAY THAT, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF LIKE, OH, WE WANT TO MAKE MORE. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS PLAN. IT'S IN ORDER OF FEASIBILITY. LIKE WE, WE PUT A SITE ON OUR CONTRACT AND WE PAY AS LITTLE AS WE CAN TO GET IT. IT'S LIKE ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MAKE AN OFFER AND WE TRY TO TIE UP THE SITE FOR A MARKET PRICE AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. AND AT THE TIME, KNOWING WHAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD ACHIEVE, KNOWING THAT TOWNHOMES WERE, UH, IMPORTANT, UM, WE TRIED TO ACHIEVE MORE, WE COULD NOT COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT ADDRESSED ALL THE GUIDING DOCUMENTS IS OF THE CITY, CREATING THAT BLOCK LENGTH, CREATING, YOU KNOW, JUST EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND DOING THAT IT, IT'S HARD. AND THEN ALSO, UM, THE NUMBERS JUST ULTIMATELY DIDN'T WORK. UM, AND WE, WE KNEW, WE KNEW THAT IF WE PUSHED IT UP TO 40 TO 50, IT WOULD COME AT THE COST OF THE MULTIFAMILY AND IT WOULD MAKE THE PROJECT NOT FEASIBLE BASED OFF OF WHAT IT TAKES, UM, TO ACQUIRE THE SITE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS. OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. AND SO WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF, UH, FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AND I'LL CALL THOSE, UH, FOR THE CARDS THAT THEY FILLED OUT. AND WE HAVE A NUMBER THAT, UH, UH, FILLED OUT A CARD, BUT, UH, PREFER NOT TO SPEAK AND I'LL, I'LL MENTION THOSE AS WELL. AND WE HAVE A FEW EMAILS THAT WE'LL ALSO READ THE PEOPLE SENT IN AND ASK TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD. SO THE FIRST PERSON I WILL CALL IS ROBERT JACOBY. UH, GOOD EVENING COUNSEL. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU FOR CHAIRMAN CROW AND YOUR, YOUR PRESENTATION. VERY INSIGHTFUL, VERY INTERESTING ON A NUMBER OF FRONTS. UM, THIS TRAIN LEFT THE STATION OVER TWO YEARS AGO. YOU GUYS BOUGHT IT, PLANNING AND ZONING BOUGHT IT EXCEPT FOR ONE PERSON. SO THE THING ABOUT ADDISON, I'VE LIVED IN ADDISON FOR 25 YEARS AND AT ONE TIME ADDISON WAS A RESPITE FROM DALLAS, BUT NOW IT IS DALLAS, IT IS JUST GONNA BE LIKE LEMON OR OR DOWN OFF MCKINNEY [02:55:01] AVENUE WITH A MIX OF SMALL HOMES SURROUNDED BY APARTMENTS. AND I GUESS I ASK ALL OF YOU TO PONDER WHAT THIS MEANS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS TRAIN HAS LEFT THIS STATION OBVIOUSLY AT AT, AT THE FACE OF THIS, I WISH THIS WAS SOMETHING LIKE ASBURY CIRCLE, OWNER OCCUPIED TOWN HOMES MANAGE IT. WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE LET'S PACK 'EM ALL IN. MOST OF THESE UNITS ARE ONE BEDROOM APARTMENTS. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE LIVING IN THOSE APARTMENTS. IT MAY BE A DOG AND A CAT. THERE'RE GONNA BE HUNDREDS OF ANIMALS IN THIS COMPLEX. NOBODY'S REALLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT THAT'S GONNA PRESENT. BUT I THINK THE ONE THING THAT DRIVES MOST PEOPLE IS A CONCERN FOR WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO TRAFFIC, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH CRIME. AND YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN MY COLLEAGUE VALERIE, UH, COLLINS, PUT FORWARD CRIME STATS. AND THIS IS NOTHING ON YOU GENTLEMEN, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT ADDISON, ADDISON IS HITTING WELL ABOVE ITS WEIGHT IN THE CRIME STATS, WHAT IS IT? 82%. 82 PER 1000, UM, RESIDENTS COMPARED TO FARMER'S BRANCH AT 44 CARROLLTON 17 AND PLANO 22. ADDISON HAS A CRIME PROBLEM AND IT'S DRIVEN BY APARTMENTS. IT'S DRIVEN BY APARTMENTS. SO I LEAD YOU TO ASK, WHEN IT COMES TO ALL THESE THINGS, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THIS PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN BOUGHT BY THE ADDISON COUNCIL? THAT APARTMENTS ARE BEST USE OF PROPERTIES. THEY'RE COMING, THEY'RE GONNA BE THERE, BUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO MITIGATE THE CRIME? WE CAN ASK OUR FRIENDS AT TRAMBLE CROW, WHAT CAN THEY DO TO ASSIST THIS CRIME THAT WILL COME? AND WHERE WILL ADDISON BE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, 15 YEARS FROM NOW? I DON'T KNOW, BUT THIS IS NOT THE ADDISON I GREW UP WITH FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS. IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE SAME ADDISON YOU BOUGHT INTO A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. SO IF THIS TRAIN IS THE PATH THAT WE'VE PURSUED AS A COUNCIL AND AS A CITY, I GUESS I ASK YOU ALL HOW DO WE PROTECT ADDISON MOVING FORWARD? AND IT NEEDS TO BE SOME REAL CREATIVE THOUGHTS AND MAYBE WITH OUR DEVELOPER FRIENDS, WE CAN REACH SOME ACCOMMODATIONS TO MITIGATE THE CRIME. IT MAY LIMIT CERTAIN FREEDOMS OF INDIVIDUALS THERE, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE ALL NEED TO HIGHLY CONSIDER. BUT I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR QUESTIONS TONIGHT. WELL, AND JUST A REMINDER, WE DO HAVE A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR THOSE SPEAKING TO THE COUNCIL. AND NEXT UP WE HAVE VALERIE COLLINS. SHE IS, UH, MISSING BECAUSE OF AN, AN EMERGENCY TO GO. OKAY, SO SHE'S NOT HERE. THEN WE HAVE JOHN BRANDON, AND ALSO IF YOU WOULD, UH, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE. JOHN BRANDON. UM, 39 15 BOBBIN LANE. UM, I'M BESIDES MYSELF ABOUT THIS 2017 WAS THE TIME THAT WE ROSE UP AND SAID ENOUGH AND ENOUGH. AND YOU GUYS STILL BUILT THAT MONSTROSITY ON BELTLINE. I DIDN'T APPRECIATE THAT. NOW I DON'T LOVE TRAMMELL CROW. IF YOU COULD ADDRESS, I'M SORRY, IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, PLEASE. OKAY. NOT TO YES, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. BUT I DON'T HATE 'EM EITHER. I'M INDIFFERENT TO THEM. I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE IN THE BUSINESS FOR MAKING MONEY AND MAKING MULTI-USE PROJECTS. AND QUITE HONESTLY, NOT NOTHING THEY SAID, ANYTHING THERE FROM THEM CONCERNS ME OR IMPACTS ANY OF US RESIDENTS. IT JUST IMPACTS THEIR DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE A BIG ORGANIZATION. THEY'RE GONNA COME IN AND BUILD ANOTHER FIVE STORIES AND THEY'LL DO IT DOWN THE STREET AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. GUESS WHAT? WHERE'S IT STOP? I'M TIRED OF IT. I WANT YOU GUYS TO FIGURE OUT, AND I DON'T HAVE THE PROBLEM WITH THE CRIME, BUT I'M TIRED OF THE HIGH RISE HERE. I WANT TO DRIVE DOWN BELTLINE, SEE RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL. IF YOU WANNA BUILD IT SOMEPLACE ELSE, GO AHEAD. BUT I'M, I'M WITH, UH, UH, THAT GENTLEMAN OVER THERE. THIS ISN'T DALLAS, THIS IS ADDISON. THIS IS WHERE I LIVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, JOHN. NEXT UP WE HAVE NANCY WRIGHT FOR THE SHORT PERSON HERE. [03:00:03] SORRY. UH, NANCY WRIGHT, 41 11 RIDE LANE. UH, I'M AGAINST THIS PROJECT. UH, I'VE LIVED IN ADDISON FOR OVER 32 YEARS. I'M NOT FOR THE ADDITIONAL APARTMENTS. THEY WILL BRING CRIME FOR SURE. AND IT'S DEMONSTRATED FOR SURE BY THE VICTORIAN AND OTHER ADDISON PROJECTS OR APARTMENTS. LIKE THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME HAD TALKED ABOUT ALSO PUTTING RESTAURANTS THERE ON RUNYON, UH, ISN'T GONNA WORK. WE HAVE SEEN, OR I HAVE SEEN RESTAURANTS GO IN, THEY NEVER LAST BECAUSE IT'S NOT RIGHT ON BELTLINE. SO THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNOW THAT. ADDISON CIRCLE NOW HAS SECTION EIGHT HOUSING, WHICH IS A LOW INCOME HOUSING. PEOPLE ARE MOVING OUT OF ADDISON'S CIRCLE BECAUSE OF THESE SECTION EIGHT HOUSING PEOPLE. THEY ARE DESTROYING THE PROPERTIES. THEY'RE LETTING THEIR DOGS AND CATS AND EVERYTHING, PEE AND POOP EVERYWHERE. THEY WON'T EVEN PUT THEIR TRASH DOWN THE CHUTE. AND THEY'RE PAYING $2,300, NOT THE AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE GIVING. SO IF THEY'RE GIVING, GONNA PAY FOR $2,000 OR WHATEVER IT WAS, IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP THE CRIME. AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO ADDISON? UM, SO WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING IF YOU APPROVE THIS, IS YOU'RE GONNA BE BRINGING CLOSER TO THE LONG-TERM RESIDENTS CRIME, LOTS OF FILTH. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT A LOT MORE INTO THE PARKS AND RECREATION AND CLEANING UP AFTER ALL THE MESS THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING ONCE IF ONCE THE SECTION EIGHT HOUSING COMES INTO PLAY. IT MIGHT NOT BE TODAY, BUT IT MIGHT BE IN FIVE YEARS. AND SO WHAT ARE YOU SETTING US UP FOR? SO IF YOU APPROVE THIS, I, AND I'M LOSING TRACK HERE. UM, YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN, AND PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT THEY DON'T WANT ANY MORE APARTMENTS. YOU'VE SAW THE SIGNS HAVE COME BACK UP SAYING, WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE APARTMENTS. WE CAN WAIT. IT'S OKAY TO WAIT. I KNOW THEY PUT IN A LOT OF TIME, I'M SORRY THAT THEY DID PUT IN ALL THIS TIME, BUT DON'T HANG YOUR HAT ON FOUR YEARS. THINK ABOUT ADDISON AND HOW WE ARE BECOMING, WE'RE BECOMING APARTMENT CITY AND WE'RE GONNA BE CRIME JUST LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID. THANK YOU. THANK YOU NANCY. THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF THE, UH, COUNCIL, WERE THERE ANY OTHERS BEFORE WE GO ONTO THE OTHERS? YES, MA'AM. GIMME ONE MINUTE. COME ON UP. ACTUALLY, BE SURE AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. OH, PATRICIA HAHN, UH, 3 7 7 2 WATERFORD DRIVE. I'VE BEEN HERE 30 YEARS. I'M GONNA TRY TO DO IT IN ONE MINUTE. I DON'T, I I CAN'T SET MY STOPWATCH. I'M GONNA TRY. OKAY. SO I'M NEW TO ALL THIS. I'VE NEVER BEEN HERE. IT JUST OCCURS TO ME THAT MAYBE CITIZENS OUGHT TO BE INVOLVED. I KNOW EVERYBODY HERE HAS BEEN INVOLVED. EVERYBODY HERE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, I'M PROUD OF THEM. IF WE PUT IN ANOTHER BIG PILE OF APARTMENTS, SHOULDN'T WE ALSO PUT IN MORE POLICE? IF WE'RE GONNA DO CITY PLANNING, AND WE'RE GONNA, GONNA ACTUALLY SIT HERE IN FRONT OF CITIZENS AND TELL CITIZENS WE'RE DOING PLANNING, YOU SHOULD BE PAYING THE POLICEMEN AND YOU SHOULD BE PAYING THE FIREMEN BECAUSE EVERYBODY ARE GETTING BIGGER JOBS. THOSE GUYS ARE GETTING BIGGER JOBS EVERY SINGLE DAY. THEY'RE NOT EVEN GETTING APPLICATIONS FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND WORK HERE ANYMORE. I KNOW PEOPLE IN CARROLLTON, I KNOW PEOPLE IN 50 SECONDS. I KNOW PEOPLE IN CARROLLTON, FARMER'S BRANCH, RICHARDSON. PEOPLE ARE APPLYING FOR THOSE JOBS, BUT NOT TO COME HERE. NOW, THAT DIDN'T USED TO ALWAYS BE THE CASE. I THINK THAT'S UNFORTUNATE. UM, I THINK WE PUT A LOT ON OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. I HAPPENED TO BE A NURSE THAT WORKED THROUGH COVID IN HOSPICE. PLEASE CONSIDER PROPERLY TAKING CARE OF YOUR FIRST RESPONDERS, BECAUSE IF YOU KEEP GIVING THEM MORE WORK, THEY'RE GONNA LEAVE. AND EVERY TIME YOU PUT IN A NEW PILE OF APARTMENTS, YOU GIVE THEM MORE WORK, LET ALONE THEIR CARS ARE ALREADY SITTING AT ALL [03:05:01] THE HOTELS. I DON'T EVEN SEE CARS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ANYMORE. THAT'S ABOUT A MINUTE. THANK YOU, PATRICIA. ANY OTHERS? OKAY, I HAVE A FEW, UH, CARDS HERE FOR PEOPLE THAT DID NOT WANNA SPEAK, BUT WANTED TO VOICE THEIR, THEIR POSITION ON THIS. THE, UH, VINCENT GALLAGHER IS IN, IN IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM. LINDA TUI, I'M NOT SURE IF I'M PRONOUNCING THAT RIGHT, IS IN OPPOSITION. SHERRY COOK IS IN OPPOSITION. LORI SIMILAR IS IN OPPOSITION. LAURA CLEGG IS IN OPPOSITION. ALEJANDRA GUTIERREZ IS IN OPPOSITION. GIORGIO SUEZ, OR I'M NOT SURE, I CAN'T QUITE READ. THAT IS IN OPPOSITION. AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE THERE. AND THEN WE HAVE THREE EMAILS THAT WERE SENT IN BY FOLKS THAT ASKED FOR THEM TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD. AND I'LL CALL ON, UH, DARREN GARDNER. FIRST TO READ ONE. I HAVE AN EMAIL FROM, UH, DAVE COLLINS. SURE. I'M RIGHT ON THIS. DAVE COLLINS. ADDRESS, 1 4 6 6 8 WAYSIDE COURT. SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2023. TRAMMELL CROW HIGH STREET REZONING REQUEST. WHILE I AM UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS EVENING'S COUNCIL MEETING, I HAVE STOOD BEFORE THE COUNCIL IN THE PAST AND TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS REGARDING THE CONTINUAL REZONING OF PROPERTIES FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TONIGHT. I RECOGNIZE YOU HAVE A DIFFICULT DECISION TO MAKE WHEN THE ALTERNATIVE IS A VACANT BUILDING, AN EMPTY LOT, AND APPARENTLY SOME UNDERPERFORMING BUSINESS. HOWEVER, PLEASE DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT IN SPITE OF SOME RESTAURANTS AND PUBLIC SPACES, THIS IS REALLY ABOUT THE ADDITION OF FIVE STORY, 400 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THE MAIN ACCESS STREET OF ONE OF THE LARGEST RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN ADDISON. THERE WILL BE ARGUMENTS THAT ADDISON NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO APPROVE MULTIFAMILY, TO SUPPORT VARIOUS CONSTITUENCIES, I E OFFICE RESTAURANTS, THAT WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A TOWN WITH SIGNIFICANT MULTIFAMILY, AND THAT THERE IS REALLY NO DOWNSIDE TO CONTINUING TO ENCOURAGE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS TO COME TO ADDISON TRAFFIC, ANYONE AT 84% MULTIFAMILY AND GROWING. WHEN DOES ADDISON SAY ENOUGH? THE FACT THAT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS CONTINUE TO WANT TO BUILD AN ADDISON SHOULD TELL YOU DEMAND FOR HOUSING IS STRONG. WHY AREN'T WE SEEING OPPORTUNITIES FROM DEVELOPER FOR FEE, SIMPLE TOWN HOMES, CONDOS, OR OTHER OPTIONS THAT WORK WITH OUR INFILL LAND PROFILE? DON'T ACCEPT SIMPLISTIC ANSWERS. YOU MUST BE PROACTIVE AND PROBE TO FIND OUT WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS PERCEIVED OR REAL. FURTHER, YOU MUST EVALUATE ALL OPTIONS, INCLUDING INCENTIVES TO ENSURE THAT STAFF HAS THE TOOLS TO PROACTIVELY SEEK OUT FEE SIMPLE DEVELOPERS RATHER THAN JUST PLAYING DEFENSE. UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE START PLAYING OFFENSE, WE WILL NEVER BREAK OUTTA THE CYCLE OF APPROVING THE LEAST WRONG ANSWER. IF YOU BELIEVE, AS I DO THAT, ADDISON IS A VERY DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE, THEN SAYING NO TO THIS REZONING REQUEST DOES NOT CLOSE THE DOOR. IT SIMPLY SAYS THAT WE HAVE REACHED THE LEVEL OF MULTIFAMILY SATURATION, AND WE WANT SOME BREATHING SPACE AS WE DEVELOP THE NEW COMPREHEN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT POSITION ADDISON FOR THE FUTURE. THANK YOU DAVE COLLINS. THANK YOU DARREN. EILEEN RESNICK. THIS LETTER IS FROM JIM DUFFY, UH, 3 8 8 7 RIDGE LAKE COURT. THERE IT'S, I HAD PLANNED TO ATTEND TONIGHT'S COUNCIL MEETING TO PRESENT MY THOUGHTS IN PERSON REGARDING ITEM FOUR A ON THE AGENDA CASE, 1 8 7 7 Z TRAMMELL CROW MIXED USE. UNFORTUNATELY, MY SCHEDULE CHANGED, SO I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON TO SHARE MY SUPPORT FOR THIS EXCEPTIONAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE ARCHITECT AND DEVELOPER HAVE CREATED A PLAN FOR A UNIQUE MULTI-FAMILY MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH ADDRESSES MANY OF THE DESIRED FEATURES OF THE TOWN'S PLANNING DOCUMENTS AND VISIONS. IT IS ARCHITECTURALLY APPEALING AND HAS COME UP WITH UNIQUE SOLUTIONS FOR TRAFFIC, RETAIL, AND FEE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP. IN ADDITION TO THE APARTMENTS, I HOPE YOU'LL SEE THE ADVANTAGES OF PROPERTY DEVELOPING THIS UNDERUSED PROPERTY AND PROPERLY DEVELOPING THIS UNDERUSED PROPERTY IN WEST ADDISON AND APPROVED THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS WITH ALL CONDITIONS. HAVING ATTENDED THE DEVELOPER'S SECOND PUBLIC PRESENTATION AND HEARING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THERE, [03:10:01] I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE POINTS I'M SURE YOU'LL HEAR TONIGHT FROM PEOPLE OPPOSING THE PROJECT TRAFFIC. THE SOLUTIONS TO INGRESS AND INTO EGRESS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT WILL MINIMIZE ADDED TRAFFIC ON BELTWAY. THE SLIGHT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ON BELTWAY RECENTLY IS DUE TO THE MIDWAY ROAD RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. MY HOME BACKS UP TO BELTWAY, AND WE HAVE HAD NO ISSUES WITH NOISE OR ACCESS TO BELTWAY. TRAFFIC IN ADDISON IS TYPICALLY MOVING THROUGH ADDISON, NOT GENERATED BY ADDISON. WHY NOT CONDOS? BECAUSE THE MARKET DOESN'T EXIST TO JUSTIFY CONDOS. I REMEMBER IN THE LATE SEVENTIES AND EARLY EIGHTIES WHEN MANY APARTMENT COMPLEXES WERE CONVERTED TO CONDOMINIUMS AND A FEW NEW CONDO BUILDINGS WERE ULTIMATELY CONVERTED TO APARTMENTS BECAUSE THERE WERE NO BUYERS FOR CONDOS. THERE ARE TOO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA TO MAKE CONDOS APPEALING. UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE OPPORTUNITIES NO LONGER EXIST IN LANDLOCKED ADDISON. NO MORE APARTMENTS. EVERY ADDISON CITIZEN IN TONIGHT'S MEETING MOVED INTO ADDISON WHEN IT WAS A MAJORITY MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING COMMUNITY. I'M IN MY 40TH YEAR OF LIVING IN ADDISON, AND IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN MAJORITY APARTMENTS. THIS PROJECT ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST ON BELTLINE ROAD. I PUBLICLY OPPOSED THE PROJECT ON THE OLD SAM SITE BECAUSE OF THE EXTREME DENSITY. AND NOW THAT THE TOWN HOMES ARE BEING BUILT AND SOLD, MY OPPOSITION IS JUSTIFIED. THAT SITE LOOKS MORE LIKE EASTERN BLOCK THAN PUBLIC HOUSING THAN ANYTHING THE DEVELOPER SHARED IN HIS PRESENTATIONS. THIS NEW PROJECT IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT AND FAR SUPERIOR. THANKS FOR REVIEWING MY THOUGHTS AND GIVE YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT SO THIS DEVELOPMENT CAN PROCEED. JIM DUFFY. THANK YOU EILEEN AND NANCY CRAIG? UH, YES. UM, I HAVE AN EMAIL FROM BRIGHTON WELLS. HE IS WITH THE AKRAM GROUP THAT OWNS THE OFFICE BUILDING. SPECTRUM CENTER IS EMAIL READS COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS BRIGHTON WELLS, AND I APOLOGIZE. I COULD NOT PRESENT IN PERSON TODAY AS I DID AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING A FEW WEEKS AGO. AS A LOCAL STAKEHOLDER, I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW MY SUPPORT FOR TRAMMELL CROW'S PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. I RECENTLY OPENED AN OFFICE FOR AKRA GROUP IN ADDISON, LOCATED AT SPECTRUM CENTER, AN OFFICE BUILDING A MILE EAST OF TRAMMELL CROW'S PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE AKRON GROUP ACQUIRED SPECTRUM CENTER FOR OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN MARCH OF 2022. AND WE ARE CURRENTLY INVESTING MORE THAN $30 MILLION TO ENHANCE THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY. OUR TOTAL BASIS IN SPECTRUM CENTER WILL CLOSE, UM, CLOSE TO $200 MILLION WHEN WE ARE FINISHED REPOSITIONING THE ASSET IN A FEW YEARS. THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT AND REPRESENTS MORE THAN AN INVESTMENT IN THE BUILDING ITSELF. THIS IS AN INVESTMENT IN THE VISION AND GROWTH OF ADDISON THROUGH SOME OF ADDISON'S KEY GROWTH INITIATIVES SUCH AS THE BELTLINE CORRIDOR VISION AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PUT FORTH BACK IN 2013. AS A NEARBY OFFICE OWNER, WE ARE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT. WHEN WE TOUR PROSPECTIVE TENANTS THROUGH OUR BUILDING, IT IS CLEAR THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPETITION FROM COMPETING BUILDINGS AND FRISCO, PLANO AND OTHER NEARBY JURISDICTIONS TRYING TO LURE TENANTS TO THEIR BUILDINGS WITH AMENITIES AND INCENTIVES. HERE IN ADDISON, WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST RETAIL IN THE CITY. OUR BUILDING WILL CHECK THE BOX FOR TENANTS ONCE FULLY REPOSITIONED BECAUSE IT WILL BE ENHANCED TO MEET DEMANDS OF THE MODERN WORKPLACE. BUT WE DO NOT RECEIVE HIGH MARKS FROM TENANTS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS NEARBY THAT THEY NEED TO ATTRACT A YOUNG, TALENTED WORKFORCE. TRAMELL CROW'S DEVELOPMENT WILL HELP SOLVE THIS PROBLEM BY PROVIDING NEW, WELL-DESIGNED, WELL CONSTRUCTED AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEAR THE PRIMARY ADDISON OFFICE. NOTE ALONG THE TOLLWAY THAT WON'T JUST BENEFIT OUR BUILDING AT SPECTRUM CENTER, BUT WILL BENEFIT THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR. THE QUALITY OF TRAMMEL CROW'S PROJECT WILL ATTRACT IN THE FLUENT RENTER AND AS SOMETHING WE CAN POINT TO WHILE TOURING TENANTS THAT GIVE US A LEG UP OVER THE CON COMPETITION IN OTHER LOCATIONS. IF WE CAN KEEP OUR OFFICE BUILDINGS FULL DAYTIME POPULATION AND ADDISON REMAINS STRONG, RETAIL SALES REVENUES FLOURISH [03:15:01] AND AFFORDING HOUSING OPTIONS HELP US ACHIEVE ALL OF THIS AT AKRON GROUP. WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. IT ISN'T EASY AGGREGATING AS MANY PARCELS AND DESIGNING A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT THAT BENEFITS ALL, BUT WE THINK TRAMMELL CROW'S DESIGN DOES JUST THAT, AND THEY ARE THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS AT THIS TYPE OF PROJECT. THIS WILL UPLIFT THE IMMEDIATE AREA, REMOVE CURRENT EYESORE, AND WILL LEAD TO FUTURE INVESTMENTS IN ADDISON BY COMPANIES LIKE MINE. IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR ALL. THANKS BRIGHTON. THANK YOU, NANCY. THAT IS ALL THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS, UM, PUBLIC HEARING. SO WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MAYOR, I WILL MOVE FOR APPROVAL. SECOND, I LIEN RENICK MAKES MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED THERE. SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM NANCY CRAIG IN DISCUSSION. ANY DISCUSSION? MARLON MAYOR. I JUST WANNA SHARE SOME THOUGHTS. UM, OBVIOUSLY IF THIS GOES FORWARD, I I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE A, A SIDEWALK THAT'S NOT 10 FEET. UM, SO I'M GONNA PURSUE THAT IF, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION OF THE, THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. BUT, UM, ONE OF, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT I HEARD, UM, OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS WHEN TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT, IT, IT WAS, IT WAS MUCH BROADER. TALK ABOUT ADDISON IN GENERAL. SO JUST THIS IS TOO MUCH, TOO FAST. MM-HMM. AND, UM, AND IN THIS AREA WHERE WE'RE AT WITH AMIE ADDISON AND THAT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT, UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, WHAT THAT'S GONNA FEEL LIKE UNTIL IT'S COMPLETED. UH, BUT WE DO KNOW IT'S A PRETTY, PRETTY MASSIVE PROJECT. AND I THINK IT'S ABOUT SIMILAR SIZE AS THIS. UM, THIS PROJECT HAS GOT PARKING OF 740 VEHICLES. UM, SO WE ARE GOING TO SEE A GOOD AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, UM, THROUGHOUT, BUT DEFINITELY IN ON PROTON DRIVE AND BELTWAY DRIVE. UM, AND SO I JUST CAN'T, THE OTHER THING I KEEP COMING BACK TO IS, IS IF, IF WE'RE GONNA KEEP GOING DOWN THIS PATH, WE REALLY NEED TO, TO CHANGE THE HOUSING POLICY BECAUSE, UM, TH THIS MAY FIT ONE, ONE OF THE ITEMS, POSSIBLY TWO OF THE ITEMS. BUT, UM, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A HOUSING POLICY AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING DOWN THIS PATH, OUR NUMBER ONE ITEM IS INCREASE THE PROPORTION OF FEE, SIMPLE OWNERSHIP AND ADDISON HOUSING MIX. AND WE ARE, WE ARE NOT ONLY NOT DOING THAT, WE'RE GOING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. AND, AND IN MY OPINION, IF WE KEEP GOING DOWN THIS PATH, WE'RE GONNA BE ABOUT 85% RENTAL. WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE THERE NOW. AND, AND SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. AND I, AND I, AND I, UM, I'M GONNA ECHO, UM, WHAT ONE OF THE RESIDENTS SAID. UM, THIS IS JUST TOO MUCH, TOO FAST. THANK YOU. IT'S, OH, I'M SORRY. OH, GQ. UH, MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR A CO FOR, UH, STAFF. IF I MAY. I WAS HOPING TO ASK KEN A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT THEY WENT THROUGH, BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, CAN, CAN, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SECTION EIGHT HOUSING, WHAT IT IS AND HOW IT, UM, HOW, HOW YOU, HOW WE, UH, UNDERSTAND IF THAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN ADDISON? SO, UH, SECTION EIGHT IS A FEDERAL HOUSING PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES VOUCHERS, UH, TO, UH, LOW INCOME, UH, RESIDENTS, UH, TO USE TO SUPPLEMENT, UH, THEIR INCOME TO, UH, ACCOMMODATE, UH, RENTAL PAYMENT FOR HOUSING. UM, SO THAT ISSUE HAS COME UP SEVERAL TIMES, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THE ONGOING DISCUSSION ON HOUSING. UM, UH, SPECIFIC TO ADDISON CIRCLE, UH, SO LAST TIME IT CAME UP, UH, WAS JANUARY OF THIS YEAR AS, UH, WE WERE LEADING UP TO THE HOUSING TOWN HALL IN FEBRUARY. SO AT THAT TIME, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, UH, WHO, UH, FREQUENTLY ENGAGES WITH, UH, CERTAINLY THE, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO OUR, [03:20:01] UM, UH, APARTMENT PROPERTY MANAGERS, UH, ENGAGED ALL THE, UH, APARTMENT PROPERTY MANAGERS IN ADDISON CIRCLE AND ASKED THEM IF THEY PARTICIPATE IN THE SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER PROGRAM. AND AT THAT TIME, ALL OF THEM CONFIRMED THAT THEY DO NOT. AND THAT IS, WHILE IN SOME STATES, UH, MUNICIPAL, LOCAL REGULATIONS AS WELL AS STATE REGULATIONS PROHIBIT LANDOWNERS FROM DOING SO. UH, CAN I TALK NOW? UM, SO IN SOME STATES, UH, LANDOWNERS GET PREEMPTED FROM DOING THAT, UH, TEXAS DOES NOT. AND TECH TEXAS ACTUALLY ADOPTED LEGISLATION, UH, BACK IN, UH, 2017, I BELIEVE, THAT PROHIBITED CITIES FROM PROHIBITING, UH, LANDLORDS FROM, UH, NOT ACCEPTING SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS. SO DOES THAT PRECLUDE US FROM PUTTING, UH, EXCLUSION IN THE M O U, UH, THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU SPEAK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ON IN CLOSED SESSION? UH, THANK YOU. WE'LL DO THAT. UH, ANOTHER COMPONENT OF, UH, 23, LEMME PULL THIS UP. ANOTHER COMPONENT THAT YOU HELP TO DEVELOP, UH, THIS, UH, DESIGN. CAN YOU TELL US HOW THE GARBAGE COLLECTION AND REMOVAL CHALLENGES, WHICH ARE THE BINS IN THE STREETS AT THE ADDISON GROVE APARTMENTS, ARE, ARE AVOIDED IN THIS PLAN? SURE. WITH THE ADDISON GROVE PROJECT, IT'S NOT DISSIMILAR TO MANY OF THE MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS IN ADDISON CIRCLE. AND THAT TO SERVICE THE, THE SOLID WASTE, UH, THERE'S PULLOUT, UH, CARTS, UH, THAT COME OUT FROM THE COMPACTOR AND THEY GET POSITIONED ON STREET TO BE PICKED UP, UH, DURING, UH, TRASH SERVICE DAY. UH, WITH ADDISON CIRCLE, IT WORKS WELL 'CAUSE THEY HAVE DEDICATED ON STREET PARKING WHERE IT'S OUT OF THE TRAVELED WAY OF, UM, UH, THE STREET. UM, BUT IN ADDISON GROVE, SPECIFICALLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROJECT WHERE, UH, THE TRASH SERVICE IS, THERE'S UH, BASICALLY IT'S A, UM, JUST A, UM, A SECTION THAT'S PRETTY GENERIC, UH, COMMERCIAL, UH, ROADWAY SECTION, KIND OF A HYBRID SECTION. UM, AND THERE'S NO, UH, PARKING, UM, CARVE OUTS IN THE SECTION THAT, THAT SEPARATES IT AND DELINEATES IT FROM THE TRAVELED WAY. SO WITH THAT, WHEN THEY POSITION THE CARTS FOR PICKUP AS THEY HAVE TO, 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO GET SERVICE, UH, IT CAN INTERFERE WITH THE TRAFFIC, UH, INGRESS AND EGRESS. AND THAT IS THE ONLY INGRESS AND EGRESS POINT TO THE PARKING STRUCTURE ON THE SITE. SO IT IS DISRUPTIVE WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. UH, THERE'S TWO LOCATIONS, UM, IN, UH, THE PROJECT ONE, UM, AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, THEY HAVE A SCREENED TRASH ENCLOSURE AREA WHERE THEY STAGE THE TRASH AND THE ONE THAT'S READY FOR PICKUP, IT'D BE REMOVED FROM THERE. AND THEN AT THE, UH, RUNYON ROAD ENTRY, THEY HAVE ANOTHER SCREENED AREA. UM, SO KINDA LIKE THE ENCLOSURES YOU SEE, UH, FOR, UM, MORE SO WITH COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES LIKE RESTAURANTS, UH, WHERE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE VIEWABLE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE AESTHETIC IMPACT. AND ALSO IT'S CORRALLED OUT OF THE TRAVELED WAY OF THE STREET. SO IT'S NOT IMPACTING TRAFFIC AND INGRESS AND EGRESS. THANK YOU. UH, CONTINUING ON WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE, OF THE DESIGN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE IN THE ENTRANCES EGRESS TO THE, UH, PARKING LOT? THERE WERE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO IN AND OUT, UH, TO, TO CONSIDER THE TRAFFIC PATTERN. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A BIT? SO, I, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SAY IT. I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO IT. 'CAUSE THEY, IN MY MIND, THEY WEREN'T ADJUSTMENTS. I WOULD SAY THAT THEY WERE, UH, GAVE US MORE OF THE DESIGN. TYPICALLY AT THIS STAGE CONCEPT PLAN, WE WOULDN'T GET INTO PARKING STRUCTURE CIRCULATION. SO I THINK THEY SHARED OUR, THEIR DESIGN, UH, AND THAT THE WAY IT IS DESIGNED, UH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THEIR ARGUMENT THAT IT, IT WILL BE LESS CONVENIENT, UH, FOR THE RESIDENTS TO ENTER FROM THE SURVEYOR LOCATION AS COMPARED TO THE BELT LINE, UH, AND RUNYON LOCATION IF YOU'RE JUST CONSIDERING CIRCULATION IN THE PARKING STRUCTURE. SO MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE ABOUT CONCERNS FOR PRIVACY IN THE ADJOINING UM, PROPERTY ON THE, UH, PECAN SQUARE, WALNUT SQUARE COMPONENT. UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU OR FOR THE APPLICANT THEMSELVES, [03:25:01] BUT CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE ELEVATION DIFFERENCE ON THAT SIDE OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY AND HOW THAT ELEVATION DIFFERENCE CAN HELP ALONG WITH THE WALL THAT'S THERE CAN HELP PROTECT SOME OF THE PRIVACY OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY? UH, THERE, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, TOPOGRAPHY THERE, BUT WHAT I, I WOULD EMPHASIZE IS WE'RE MATCHING, UH, BUILDING TYPES, UM, IN THAT YOU HAVE TOWN HOMES IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO CONDOS, UH, UH, A LARGE PORTION OF WHICH ARE RENTAL CONDOS, BUT THEY'RE CONDOS NONETHELESS. SO WE'RE NOT PUTTING THE FIVE, FOUR AND FIVE STORY BUILDING ADJACENT TO THE THREE STORY AND TWO STORY CONDOS THAT EXIST IN WALNUT AND PECAN SQUARE. YOU'RE MATCHING IT WITH THREE STORY OWNERSHIP TOWN HOMES. SO IT'S A, AS, AS FAR AS TRANSITIONS GO IN ZONING, THAT'S ABOUT AS GOOD OF A TRANSITION AS YOU CAN PROVIDE, UH, TO THAT, UH, PARTICULAR SITE. AND BECAUSE THOSE ARE THREE STORY BUILDINGS, AND BECAUSE THERE'S A, A SUBSTANTIAL SETBACK FROM THE MULTIFAMILY, MUCH LIKE WHAT YOU SAW WITH THE AM TREEHOUSE PROJECT, YOU'LL GET A LOT OF SCREENING FROM THOSE TOWN HOMES OF THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING. SO AGAIN, BE YOUR, PROBABLY YOUR LAST CHANCE TO DEFEND THE 10 FOOT SIDEWALK. TELL ME ABOUT THE 10 FOOT SIDEWALK. WHY, WHY SHOULD WE KEEP IT 10 AND NOT GO TO EIGHT? I I'M NOT UNCOMFORTABLE IN, IN EITHER DIRECTION. UH, I THINK THE, THE LOSS HERE WAS THAT THE ADDISON GROVE SIDEWALK ISN'T AS AMPLE AS IT SHOULD BE. UM, I THINK EIGHT AND 10 FEET WORK. THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO BOTH. I'M ALWAYS SUPPORTIVE OF MORE LANDSCAPE. AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK IS YOU CAN PROVIDE GOOD PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, YOU'RE NOT RUNNING INTO CONFLICTS. UM, YOU'RE ALREADY HAVE REDDING TRAIL, UM, UH, YOU ALREADY HAVE ACCESS ACROSS BELT LINE TO GET TO THE FUTURE COTTON BELT TRAIL. SO I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THE BELT LINE TRAIL IS GONNA BE THE PRIMARY PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR IN THAT, IN THAT REGION. I THINK THE COTTON BELT ULTIMATELY BECOME THAT. BUT AS YOU HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE MORE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED, YOU WILL GET MORE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY. AND I WOULD, UH, ALSO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PHONE A FRIEND AND ASK OUR PARKS DIRECTOR IF SHE HAS ANY, UH, FEEDBACK ON THAT COUNCIL. JANET TIDWELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. UM, THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN DID CALL OUT FOR A 10 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK WALK, BUT A LONG BELT LINE. BUT I THINK A LOT OF THAT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS BUILDING OFF OF THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS. THE PRIMARY INTENT OF THAT WALK IS TO BE A CONNECTOR TO BELTLINE. THE PLAN RECOMMENDS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO WALK FROM EAST TO WEST THE WHOLE ROUTE ALONG BELTLINE, BUT THEY WILL COME UP FROM NORTH AND SOUTH AND THEN WANNA GET TO PLACES OF BUSINESS, I THINK EIGHT FOOT WIDE. UM, IT DOESN'T GIVE ME HEARTBURN. I THINK IT DOES ACCOMPLISH WHAT OUR GOAL IS, UM, IS TO PROVIDE THOSE CONNECTION POINTS FOR PEOPLE TO, UM, BE ABLE TO USE OUR TRAIL SYSTEM, BUT ALSO ACCESS OUR RETAIL ENVIRONMENT. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CHIEF TO SPEAK, TO STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE, WHICH CHIEF, CHIEF SPENCER, EXCUSE ME. EXCUSE ME. . GOOD EVENING CHIEF. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. YOU'VE HEARD SOME, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT THE CRIME RATE THAT, UH, WE HAVE HERE IN ADDISON. AND, UH, WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT THE, THE ONLY TOWN THAT'S SUFFERING FROM THIS CHALLENGE. UH, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A A MINUTE HERE, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO SPEAK TO, UH, CRIME THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING THAT, UH, IF IN FACT THERE'S SOME CRIME CHALLENGES WITH THE ADDITION OF, UH, OF, OF, UH, APARTMENTS, MULTIFAMILY EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL PAUL SPENCER, CHIEF OF POLICE. UH, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, IN ADDISON, IT'S, IT'S A VERY COMPLEX DISCUSSION AROUND CRIME RATE. I KNOW WE'VE SEEN SOME EMAILS BEEN CIRCULATING IN THE COMMUNITY RECENTLY TALKING ABOUT, UH, SOME ASSUMPTIONS ON CRIME RATE BASED ON POPULATION. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE [03:30:01] IS OUR, OUR POPULATION IS NOT JUST THE, THE THE 17,000 OR SO THAT WE HAVE, UM, AS A CENSUS ROLE. IT'S ALL THE VISITORS AND THE PATRONS AND THE PEOPLE THAT COME HERE ON A DAILY NIGHTLY BASIS TO TO EAT, DRINK, HAVE FUN, RIGHT SHOP, AND TO DO ALL THE THINGS WE NEED THEM TO DO IN OUR BUSINESS SECTORS. UM, THAT DRIVES OUR, OUR CRIMES AND OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE IN A MAJORITY OF OUR COMMERCIAL SECTORS. AND THAT INCLUDES THE HOTELS. AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR CRIME RATES, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM AN ASSUMPTION BASED ON POPULATION OF BOTH RESIDENT AND VISITOR. BECAUSE REALLY, IF A MAJORITY OF OUR CRIME AND OUR MAJORITY OF OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE COMING OUT OF THE COMMERCIAL SECTOR, BUSINESS AND HOTELS, THOSE PEOPLE DON'T LIVE HERE. THEY COME HERE, THEY EAT, DRINK, SHOP, WORK, AND THEN THEY GO OTHER PLACES. AND SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THAT IN, IN ADDITION TO OUR RESIDENT POPULATION. SO AGAIN, WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, UH, WE'RE COMING UP WITH A PLAN TO REDOUBLE OUR EFFORTS TO NOT ONLY ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY, UH, TO, FROM A PERCEPTION OF SAFETY, UH, PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR, OUR COMMERCIAL SECTORS HAVE THE SUPPORT THEY NEED, UH, TO COMBAT A LOT OF THE PROPERTY CRIMES THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN UPTICK IN, NOT ONLY IN ADDISON, BUT OUR SURROUNDING DALLAS FORT WORTH, UH, REGIONAL AREA. CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UM, ABOUT THE FREQUENCY, OR I SHOULD SAY THE CURRENT PORTION OF THE, OF THE UPTICK IN CRIME THAT WE'RE SEEING, THE CYCLE THAT WE'RE IN, AND WHAT PORTION OF THAT CYCLE WE'RE IN? SURE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR ANNUAL REPORTS OVER THE MANY YEARS, UH, WE LOOK AT OUR CRIME DATA ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1980 AGAIN, FROM A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE IN DALLAS-FORT WORTH. UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT CRIME RATE HAVE A NICE SMOOTH CURVE TO IT. IT COMES UP, THERE'S PEAKS AND VALLEYS. UM, RIGHT NOW, BASED ON, UH, HISTORICAL TRENDS, WE SHOULD BE AT THE TOP OF A PEAK. AND WE'RE HOPING TO SEE SOME, SOME, UM, SOME REMEDY TO THAT OVER THE NEXT HOPEFULLY YEAR OR TWO. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW IN, IN, IN A POST COVID WORLD WITH INFLATION AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE, THE POPULATION CHANGES IN DALLAS, WE MAY SEE IT MAY A SUSTAINED PEAK. WE DON'T KNOW YET, UH, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT WE SEE SOME IMPROVEMENT. AGAIN, THAT'S A REGIONAL THING. YOU KNOW, FOR ADDISON, WE WILL, WE TRACK OUR INDIVIDUAL STATS THROUGH OUR, UH, THE NATIONAL INCIDENT BASED REPORTING SYSTEM, WHICH WE CONVERTED TO FROM THE, UH, UNIFORM CRIME INDEX IN 2019. AND SO WE WERE HAVE A MUCH MORE GRANULAR DETAIL OF OUR CRIME STATS THAN WE EVER HAVE BEFORE. AND WE'RE GONNA BE, WE WERE PARTIALLY SUBMITTED, UH, NIBRS DATA IN 2019. WE HAD FULL SUBMISSIONS IN 2020, SO THIS WILL BE OUR THIRD YEAR OF FULLY, UH, UH, USING BRS AS OUR, AS OUR TOOL THAT WE REPORT TO THE STATE OF TEXAS AND ALSO, UH, THE F B I. AND SO WE SEE THREE YEARS OF GOOD DATA, WE'LL START BEING ABLE TO MAKE SOME PRETTY GOOD ASSUMPTIONS ON, ON WHICH WAY WE'RE GOING. CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE RATIO MICROPHONE TO THE RATIO OF APARTMENTS AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND THE, AND INC. AND HOW THAT AFFECTS, UH, THE FORCE, THE WORKFORCE THAT YOU HAVE, UH, UH, FOR YOUR CONTROL? IS THAT, ARE WE AVERAGE? ARE WE, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? DO YOU HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON THAT? SO, DO YOU WANT ME TO SPEAK TO THE RATIO OF APARTMENTS, THE SINGLE FAMILY? I'M CON I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT ABOUT YOUR COMFORT LEVEL OF THE MANPOWER THAT YOU HAVE FOR, UH, THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF HOUSING. SO OUR MANPOWER HAS, HAS REALLY STAYED, UH, THE SAME FROM A PATROL PERSPECTIVE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. WE, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL BUDGET YEARS, WE'VE ADDED SUPPORT STAFF, STAFF AND SOME SUPERVISORY STAFF. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE CURRENTLY IS BOTH POLICE AND FIRE ARE DOING SOME STRATEGIC PLANNING ON WHAT OUR NEEDS GOING TO BE AS ADDISON CONTINUES TO REDEVELOP AND BUILD OUT. IT IS, WE ADD PEOPLE, WE ADD ISSUES, RIGHT? AND IF WE REDEVELOP AND WE'RE JUST CHANGING AROUND, BUT A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT, WE HAD THE OLD, OLD GARDEN APARTMENTS FROM THE, FROM THE EIGHTIES. UM, YOU KNOW, KEN'S DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF SHOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LOST X AMOUNT OF UNITS, BUT THEN WE GAINED THEM BACK AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS IN THAT REDEVELOPMENT MODE. AND SO THE IMPORTANT THING FOR, FOR ME AND MY JOB AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS GONNA BE LOOKING AHEAD, STRATEGIC PLANNING TO, TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TO ADD MORE PEOPLE AND AT WHAT, WHAT RATE? BUT RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE BUILT OUT. REALLY MAJORITY COME OUT OF OUR BUSINESS IN HOTEL SECTORS. UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WITH THE TRAMMELL CROW A PROPOSAL, WE'RE LOSING A BAR. SO WE'RE GONNA LOSE SOME ACTIVITY THERE. AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT ANECDOTAL, BUT IT'S A GIVE AND TAKE. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. THAT'S IT. ANYONE ELSE? IS IT FOR YOU? GQ? OH, WELL, ONE MORE COMMENT, MAYOR. OKAY. UH, NOT FOR THE CHIEF. SO I, I'M, I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS, UH, [03:35:01] FALLEN WITHIN THE GUIDELINES AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BELTLINE DISTRICT. UH, THE BELTLINE CORRIDOR VISION FROM 2006 AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM 2013, THE RECENTLY ADJUSTED HOUSING POLICY, IT, UH, IT'S ALTO, IT'S ALSO PART OF THE DECISION MAKING THAT THE STAFF HAS MADE. UH, THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE, UH, THE ITEMS THAT I'VE LOOKED AT, UH, ALONG WITH THE CRIME AND THE TRAFFIC. UM, AND I'M, UM, I I'M GONNA SUPPORT THIS, THIS, THIS ASK. THANK YOU GQ, DARREN. SO, I, I HAVE A, A FEW COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS ON, UM, WHENEVER PEOPLE SAY NO MORE APARTMENTS, UM, I SAY, WHY, WHY? AND THEY SAY, RAF, TRAFFIC, RIGHT? OKAY, TRAFFIC, I ALREADY SAID THAT. AND WE TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS A GOOD TRAFFIC PLAN AND, AND HOW MUCH STRESS IS IT PUT ON OUR TRAFFIC? AND HOW MUCH INCONVENIENCE IS IT PUT ON US AS, AS RESIDENTS? UH, SO WE KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. THE OTHER ONE'S CRIME. SO CRIME, UM, YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE, YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE, YOU HAVE MORE CRIME. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT? UM, AND AGAIN, I SAID, YOU GET WHAT YOU TOLERATE, RIGHT? IF YOU TOLERATE CRIME, YOU TOLERATE PEOPLE BEHAVING BADLY, TENANTS, YOUR NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE BESIDE YOU IN YOUR HOUSE, UM, THEN, UH, YOU GET WHAT YOU TOLERATE. SO, UH, I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR SOME TIME AND BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF LIAISON POSITION DEVELOP OR POSITION FUNCTION IN THE TOWN TO, UH, WORK WITH APARTMENTS TO, UM, HELP MANAGE THEM BETTER AND ADDRESS ISSUES THAT THEY'RE, THEY MAY HAVE SECURITY, CRIME, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, SO I, I ASKED DAVID, UH, THE CITY MANAGER TO, TO ADDRESS KIND OF WHERE WE'RE MOVING ON THAT. SURE. WELL, WE HAVE A, A BUDGET, UH, TO APPROVE HERE IN JUST A COUPLE ITEMS. AND A BIG PART OF THE BUDGET THAT WILL BE APPROVED IS A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES PROGRAM THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WHICH A LARGE COMPONENT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES PROGRAM WILL BE OUTREACH TO APARTMENTS, BUT ALSO ADDITIONAL, UM, ENFORCEMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, THAT WILL A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE'LL HAVE FOR APARTMENTS. SO WE'LL HAVE A NUMBER OF INITIATIVES THAT WE'LL BE TAKING TO OUTREACH TO APARTMENTS, UM, TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, BUT ALSO TO HOLD THEM TO A STANDARD. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND COUNCIL CERTAINLY SHOWN THE SUPPORT AND THE RESOURCES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROGRAM. THANK YOU. I, I, I HOPE THAT WE SEE, YOU KNOW, QUITE, QUITE A BIT OF HOLDING TO A HIGHER STANDARD. I, I, I WILL, YOU KNOW, FIGHT FOR THAT ALSO. I UNDERSTAND, UH, CHIEF SPENCER ALLUDED TO THIS AS FAR AS, UM, MORE, UM, TRANSPARENCY OR CLEAR, UH, STATISTICS ON CRIME STATS. UH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING THAT WE SEE THE REAL PICTURE OF WHAT, WHAT CRIME IS AND WHERE IT'S AT. AND WITH REGARD TO, UH, NO MORE APARTMENTS, UM, I, I'M NOT A REAL BIG FAN OF, UM, UH, LET IT SIT OR DO NOTHING, OR NEVER WILL. UH, I'M A BUSINESS GUY AND I BELIEVE IN PROGRESS, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE IN QUALITY OF LIFE AND QUALITY OF QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS AS WELL AS, UH, APARTMENT RESIDENTS. AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES IS NOT JUST HOLDING APARTMENTS TO A STANDARD OR ACCOUNTABLE, IT'S ALSO MAKING THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN APARTMENTS, THEY'RE PEOPLE, LET THEM HAVE A QUALITY OF LIFE, ALSO A BETTER SHAKE. AND IF SOMEBODY'S GONNA LIVE IN ADDISON IN APARTMENTS, THEY SHOULD LIVE IN THE BEST APARTMENTS AROUND BEST APARTMENTS IN, IN DALLAS, AND WE WON'T TOLERATE PEOPLE BEHAVING BADLY. SO, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE IS, IS A BIG ANSWER TO THAT. AND ALSO, UH, WHY DON'T WE ATTRACT MORE FEE SIMPLE HOUSING? WELL, THAT IS A, AND DAVID, I, I GUESS I'LL, I'LL DEFER TO YOU ON THAT QUESTION AS WELL. AND, AND WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT, UM, HOUSING STOCK ATTRACTION OR DEVELOPERS? SURE. I, I THINK, I THINK KEN CERTAINLY REFERENCED EARLIER SOME OF THE, THE CONSTRAINTS IN THE MARKET, AND CERTAINLY THE DEVELOPERS REFERENCED THAT AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE REALITIES THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. BUT WE ALSO ARE CONTINUING OUR INITIATIVES TO GET OUR, OUR HANDS AROUND THE ENTIRETY OF THE PRO OF, OF THE ISSUE, AND REACH OUT TO BROKERS AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY EVEN IN FURTHER, AND THEN LOOK AT OUR INCENTIVE OPTIONS AND HAVE A LOOK AT THE ENTIRE, UM, UM, ARRAY OF OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND HOW COULD THEY BE USED OR NOT USED, UM, FOR THOSE EFFORTS. TO THAT END, WE HAVE A NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR STARTING NEXT WEEK, WHICH WE'RE EXCITED TO GET ON BOARD, AND THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE PRIORITIES FOR THAT POSITION TO DO THAT. AND NOT ONLY TO DO IT, BUT TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCIL AND THE, THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE, UM, THE TRANSPARENT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE, UM, FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND WHAT OUR OPTIONS TRULY ARE SO WE CAN BE MORE INFORMED IN THESE CONVERSATIONS. THANK YOU. I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT EFFORTS ON GETTING WHAT WE [03:40:01] WANT VERSUS GETTING WHAT WE GET. UM, SO ADDISON IS A BUSINESS TOWN, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT MAYBERRY. UM, AND, BUT OUR PIECE, MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I HAVE SOME NEIGHBORS ON MY STREET HERE. THANK YOU GUYS FOR, FOR VOICING YOUR OPINIONS TOO. UM, AND I, I, I WANT TO HEAR THE INPUT, BUT WE CAN PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IF WE DO THIS IN A SMART WAY. I'M FOR SENSIBLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS IS SENSIBLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. NOW, I'LL SAY ALSO IS FEE IS RENTAL VERSUS FEE SIMPLE. IS THIS MY FAVORITE THING TO COME INTO HERE? NO, IT'S NOT. IS IT PERFECT, UH, WITH REGARD TO FEE SIMPLE? NO, IT'S NOT. BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, PERFECTION IS THE ENEMY OF GREAT, RIGHT? AND GREAT IS THE ENEMY OF GOOD, RIGHT? SO IF YOU SETTLE ONLY FOR GREAT, THEN YOU'LL NEVER GET GOOD. IF YOU SETTLE ONLY FOR PERFECTION, YOU'LL NEVER GET GREAT. THIS IS A VERY GOOD DEVELOPMENT, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. AND WE HAVE TO MANAGE APARTMENTS IN ADDISON. IT'S, IT'S PART OF DOING BUSINESS WITH APARTMENTS. YOU CAN HAVE A LOT OF APARTMENTS. YOU GOTTA PUT THE MONEY, INCLUDING POLICE FORCE AND INCLUDING CODE ENFORCEMENT. I LOOK AT RESULTS AND I LOOK AT OUR CUSTOMERS. OUR CUSTOMERS ARE BUSINESSES IN ADDISON AND COMMERCIAL, AND THOSE BUSINESSES NEED PEOPLE, A HIGH QUALITY, HIGHLY TRAINED, EDUCATED PROFESSIONALS, AND THEY NEED, NEED A PLACE TO LIVE. WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL HOUSING STOCKS, AND THERE WE ARE. THERE'S ALL, THERE'S OTHER FEE SIMPLE DEVELOPMENTS HAPPENING AS WELL. AND THAT'S, THAT'S A STRONG PUSH FOR OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. UM, IF WE DELAY THIS, THEN WE DELAY REVITALIZING WEST BELT LINE. HAVE YOU BEEN ON MIDWAY NORTH IN A CITY NORTH OF OURS, RIGHT AT TRINITY MILLS, JUST SOUTH OF TRINITY MILLS. LOOK ON YOUR RIGHT. WHAT DO YOU SEE? A AND W BURGERS ROOT BEER? POPEYE'S. I LIKE POPEYE'S. UH, LONG JOHNS, I LIKE LONG JOHNS, BUT NOT THERE IN THAT LOCATION. IF YOU DON'T APPROVE THIS, YOU'RE GONNA GET WHAT YOU GET. YOU'RE GONNA GET PIECEMEAL, YOU'RE GONNA GET THE STRING OF, OF LOW END CHAIN RESTAURANTS. THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT. I KNOW THAT THIS IS A CATALYST TO HELP BELTLINE WEST BELTLINE, WHICH HAS BEEN STRUGGLING FOR AS LONG AS ANYBODY I CAN REMEMBER FOR A LONG TIME, BEEN STRUGGLING. SO THIS IS A GREAT CATALYST PROJECT TO HELP THAT HAPPEN. AGAIN, IT'S NOT PERFECT FOR FEE SIMPLE. IT'S NOT, NO OFFENSE, IT'S NOT GREAT FOR FEE SIMPLE, BUT IT IS VERY GOOD, A VERY GOOD DEVELOPMENT. AND I'LL BE IN FAVOR OF THIS. THANK YOU. DARREN. IS YOUR LIGHT STILL ON QQ? SORRY. ALRIGHT. I, I, I'D LIKE TO SHARE SOME THOUGHTS ON MYSELF. UM, WE'VE, WE, WE, WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS FROM PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS, UH, UH, OF THIS ISSUE. AND, AND, UH, THERE'S CERTAINLY NOT A UNIFIED POSITION, EVEN THOUGH SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT WE'RE NOT LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS. WE ARE LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS, AND THEN WE HAVE TO FORM OUR OWN THOUGHTS AND DECISIONS BASED ON THE INPUT THAT WE HEAR. AND WHAT DO WE SEE FOR THE VISION OF ADDISON AND WHAT COULD WE DO THE DECISION WE MAKE, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT, UH, THE FUTURE OF ADDISON? YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT AN ADDISON ONLY THING. I THINK, DARREN, YOU SAID THAT ALREADY, THAT IT'S NOT AN ADDISON ONLY, IT'S NOT A D F W ONLY, IT'S EVERY MAJOR CITY AROUND THE COUNTRY. AND, AND, AND PEOPLE ARE RISING UP AND SAYING, NO MORE APARTMENTS, BUT PEOPLE NEED TO LIVE SOMEWHERE. AND THE, THE POPULATION OF THE, OF THE D F W AREA IS FORECAST TO BE AROUND OVER 8 MILLION PEOPLE BY THE YEAR 2028, AND THEY HAVE TO LIVE SOMEWHERE. AND SO THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANNA BE PART OF THE GROWTH OF THE, OF THE METROPLEX? WITH ALL THAT COMES WITH THAT, THE GOOD AND THE BAD THAT COMES WITH GROWTH? BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S NEGATIVE, THERE'S NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF IT AS WELL. WHEN YOU HAVE GROWTH AND YOU HAVE CHANGE, SO DO WE WANNA BE PART OF IT OR NOT? AND SO WE COULD, WE COULD JUST SAY, WE CAN PUT UP A BIG STOP SIGN AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE ANYMORE DEVELOPMENT. WE JUST, WE LIKE THE WAY WE ARE AND WE'LL JUST STAY HERE. UH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD OPTION FOR US. AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU GO ASK A BUNCH OF PEOPLE, WELL, DO YOU WANT MORE APARTMENTS? OR WOULD YOU RATHER NOT HAVE MORE APARTMENTS? MOST PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, I'D RATHER NOT HAVE MORE APARTMENTS. IT'S A PRETTY EASY ANSWER, BUT IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE OF A QUESTION FOR ME. IT'S NOT A YES OR NO KIND OF AN ANSWER. THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE AND DO WE WANNA BE PART OF THE GROWTH AND EXPANSION OF THE METROPLEX? AND IT IS GROWING AND IT, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE DID NOTHING, OUR [03:45:01] TRAFFIC IS GONNA INCREASE IN TOWN FROM ALL, EVERY CITY THAT SURROUNDS US, NORTH, NORTH, NORTH AND SOUTH, EAST AND WEST. THE TRAFFIC IS, ARE GONNA INCREASE NORMALLY IF WE DID NOTHING AT ALL. SO, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF OUR TRAFFIC IS NOT GENERATED BY ADDISON RESIDENTS, AND SO WE, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND REDEVELOPMENT IS THE FUTURE OF ADDISON. AND WE HAVE TO HAVE PARTNERS THAT, THAT ARE WILLING TO DO THAT. AND THAT, THAT, AND THAT COMES FROM THE DEVELOPMENT, DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. AND REDEVELOPMENT IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN IF YOU HAVE A PIECE OF BARE LAND AND YOU CAN JUST GO GRADE IT AND START BUILDING SOMETHING. THERE'S A LOT OF COST TO DEMOLITION AND EVERYTHING THAT TO, TO GET IT READY TO GO FROM THERE. UM, AND, AND THE DEVELOPMENT IS, IT'S DRIVEN BY WHAT THE CURRENT MARKET IS. WE, WE, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO WAIT, SAY, WELL, WE'RE GONNA WAIT UNTIL THE MARKET COMES BACK FOR TOWN HOMES OR WHATEVER, AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA WAIT 4, 5, 8, 10 YEARS UNTIL IT COMES BACK WAY BEFORE THAT EVER HAPPENS. THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY'S GONNA SAY, ADDISON'S CLOSED. THEY'RE NOT OPENING TO MORE DEVELOPMENT. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? YOU BETTER BELIEVE THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER CITIES AROUND US THAT WILL SAY, YEP, YOU CAN COME ON. WE'LL, YOU CAN BUILD WHATEVER YOU WANT TO. IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT THE NEWSPAPER IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, YOU'VE SEEN MULTIPLE, UH, NEWSPAPER ARTICLES ABOUT GIGANTIC MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN, IN THE CITIES JUST AROUND US. SO IT, IT IS NOT US. IT'S EVERYWHERE. AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING HERE NEED A PLACE TO LIVE. AND SO WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT MESSAGES THAT IT IS THAT WE'RE GIVING, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, BECAUSE IF WE TURN IT OFF AND THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, TURNING IT BACK ON REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT. IF, IF IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE AGAIN. AND THEN WE, THEN, THEN WE JUST BECOME AN AGING COMMUNITY. THE, THE WAY THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, IS, IS SET UP. IT'S THE, IT'S THE CORRECT WAY TO BUFFER DEVELOPMENT FROM THE BUSY ROAD. YOU DO MULTIFAMILY, YOU DO TOWN HOMES BEFORE YOU GET INTO THE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS. AND SO THAT IS THE NORMAL WAY TO DO THIS. WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL, THAT WAS WHEN WE, WHEN THE BOND WAS APPROVED FOR THE UNDERGROUNDING, THE UTILITIES ON BELTLINE, AND IT TURNED OUT TO COST TWICE AS MUCH AS WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO. SO WE SAID, WELL, WE CAN ONLY DO HALF OF IT THEN. SO WE DECIDED TO DO FROM MIDWAY TO MARSH. AND WHY DID WE DO THAT? BECAUSE IT WAS DYING. AND EVERYBODY SAID, WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING. WE GOTTA PAY ATTENTION TO THE WEST END OF BELTLINE BECAUSE IT, IT'S TERRIBLE. YOU GET CLOSER TO TOLLWAY, EVERYTHING GETS A WHOLE LOT BETTER. BUT THE WEST END OF BELTLINE WAS DYING. SO WE, WE SAID, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA SPEND THAT $10 MILLION OR WHATEVER IT WAS AT THE TIME, ON, ON UNDERGROUNDING, THOSE UTILITIES. AND THEN, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO. YOU HAVE TO DO MORE. SO WHAT DO WE, WHAT ELSE DO WE DO? THIS COULD BE A GOOD CATALYST TO GET US GOING THAT DIRECTION. WE HA YOU CAN'T JUST GO PLUNK DOWN, YOU KNOW, BRICKS AND MORTAR RETAIL. IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH POPULATION TO SUPPORT IT, THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE HERE AND THEN IT'LL BE GONE. AND THEN YOU GOT A AND W NOTHING AGAINST A AND W I LIKE MY ROOT BEER, BUT WE HAVE TO DECIDE, WELL, WE, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE WANT TO SUPPORT AND, AND ENCOURAGE GROWTH AT THE, ON THE WEST END OF BELTLINE? BUT THIS SITE DOES NEED REDEVELOPMENT. THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT MUCH GOING ON THERE. YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF PLACES THAT HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME ACTIVITY, YOU KNOW, BACK NINE, THEY SEEM TO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD LOYAL CUSTOMER BASE. AND, AND YOU HAD, UH, VENUE 40 50. UH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT, UH, GREAT VENUE THERE, BUT THAT, THAT WHOLE AREA IS NOT EVEN NEAR PERFORMING AT THE LEVEL THAT IT SHOULD BE. AND, AND YOU'VE SEEN THE NUMBERS GOING FROM A 10 MILLION TO A $125 MILLION, UH, WORTH OF VALUE AND A, AND A PROPERTY THAT, UH, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. AND IF WE, IF, YOU KNOW, AS WE GROW AND EXPAND, LIKELY WE'LL HAVE TO ADD MORE FIRST RESPONDERS. AND IF THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. WE'LL HEAR FROM THE CHIEF AND THE CITY MANAGER AND, AND WE'LL, WE'LL RESPOND APPROPRIATELY WITH THAT. UM, BUT IT'S, UH, WE'RE GONNA, THE PEOPLE ARE GONNA DISAGREE ON THIS TOPIC. ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT'S OKAY. BECAUSE THE THING IS THAT IF, IF, IF I HAVE AN OPINION AND YOURS IS DIFFERENT THAN MINE, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ME. I'M NOT RIGHT. YOU'RE NOT RIGHT. THERE'S NO RIGHT OR WRONG WITH IT. IT'S JUST DIFFERENT OPINIONS, DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY WE LIVE IN A WORLD NOW WHERE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DISAGREE WITH ANYBODY WITHOUT JUST GETTING BEAT UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND ALL AROUND THE WORLD. BUT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DISAGREE. [03:50:01] AND, AND I'M GONNA RESPECT YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD RESPECT MINE. I THINK THAT'S FAIR. BUT I AM IN, I, IN, IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UH, PROJECT. I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT PROJECT. TRAMMELL CROW IS A FIRST CLASS OPERATOR TO DARREN'S POINT, IT'S NOT PERFECT. MIGHT NOT BE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THERE, BUT, UH, BUT I REALLY LIKE IT A LOT. AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MARLON? YES, SIR. YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY THE MOTION. UM, EILEEN, DO YOU MIND REPEATING THE MOTION? SHE, SHE, THE MOTION IS AS, UH, AS, AS IT IS, AS IT IS WITH, WITH, UM, APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS, USE CONDITIONS AS, AS PRESENTED. OKAY. OKAY. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAS INCLUDED. UM, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND, UH, THE MOTION, UH, WITH THE CHANGE TO THE, THE SIDEWALK ALONG BELTLINE FROM 10 FEET WIDE TO EIGHT FEET WIDE. OKAY. CAN I ASK A QUESTION TO DAVID ABOUT THAT? IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THIS OR IS THAT A DESIGN THING? 'CAUSE THE DESIGN WOULD NEED TO BE APPROVED LATER ON, ISN'T THAT RIGHT? I'LL DEFER TO KEN. DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT? IT'S NOT NECESSARY. IT'S NOT NECESSARY WITH THIS. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL PREFERS, JUST TO TELL US THAT. BUT IT'S NOT A A, A STRICTER REQUIREMENT OF THIS DISTRICT. SO WE CAN GO WITH AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK. BUT IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION, I WOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND ADD IT TO THE, TO THE MOTION JUST TO MAKE IT AS CLEAN AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. THANK YOU, KEN. SO IT'S YOUR MOTION TO AMEND IT TO HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK INSTEAD OF 10. RIGHT? MARLON ALONG BELT LINE, NO OTHER, NO OTHER PEDESTRIAN CHANGE ALONG THE BELT LINE STRETCH. OKAY. CORRECT. SO THAT'S YOUR AMENDMENT. IS THERE A SECOND TO HIS AMENDMENT? I, I'M FINE WITH 10 FOOT. I PREFER 10 FOOT, BUT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO HANGING IT UP FOR THAT SPECIFIC DETAIL, SO I DON'T, WAS THAT A SECOND? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS. THAT WAS NOT A SECOND. OKAY. IT KIND OF WAS 'CAUSE YOU SPOKE, SO IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT A SECOND. BUT I'LL, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. UH, ALL UH, ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, THE AMENDMENT? JUST MY PRIOR COMMENT. OKAY. UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENTS? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SO, AYE. SO WE'RE APPROVING THE AMENDMENT. JUST THE AMENDMENT. AYE. OKAY. OKAY. THE AMENDMENT PASSES FOR THE EIGHT FOOT AND NOW WE'LL GO TO THE MAIN MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? A NAYYY MOTION PASSES. VERY GOOD. AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION TONIGHT. OKAY. ITEM FOUR B, IS EVERYBODY OKAY OR DO WE NEED TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK IN? OH YEAH. TAKING A NAP. WHAT'S THAT? PROBABLY TAKING A NAP. THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED. HE PROBABLY WENT HOME. WE CAN GET UP IF WE NEED TO. I'M OKAY. PARDON? WE NEED TO RETRIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER CIO. HEY MAYOR, CAN WE TAKE A TWO MINUTE BREAK? UH, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR COUNCIL MEMBER CIO, TWO MINUTE BREAK. YES, SIR. SURE. TWO MINUTE BREAK. TWO AND A HALF. OKAY, WE ARE BACK. AND IT IS 10 47. WE'RE GOING TO [b. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request to amend the permitted uses and development plans for Planned Development (PD) Ordinance No. O20-53, for a 0.57± acre property located at 4900 Arapaho Road, to allow multifamily residential use, not to exceed one dwelling unit, within a 5-story commercial building. Case 1890-Z/4900 Arapaho Road (One Addison Place PD Amendment). ] ITEM FOUR B. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PERMITTED USES AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD. ORDINANCE NUMBER 0 2 0 DASH 5 3 4 A 0.57 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4,900 ARAPAHOE ROAD TO ALLOW MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE NOT TO EXCEED ONE DWELLING UNIT WITHIN A FIVE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING CASE. 1 8 9 0 DASH Z SLASH 4,900 ARAPAHOE ROAD ONE ADDISON PLACE, PD AMENDMENT. LESLIE. GOOD EVENING, LESLIE. NIGHT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR THIS ITEM IS 4,900 ARAPAHOE ROAD. IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR A FIVE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING. UH, THIS REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2020, UH, TO MODIFY THE PERMITTED USES AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS. UH, THIS PROPERTY, UM, HAS REMAINED VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME UNTIL THE REZONING IN 2020, WHICH, UH, APPROVED THE, THE FIVE STORY COMMERCIAL [03:55:01] BUILDING, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. UH, ONCE AGAIN, TONIGHT IS THE, AN AMENDMENT TO THAT PD FROM 2020. THE PLAN FROM 2020 APPROVED APPROXIMATELY 41,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING. UH, THE FIRST FOUR, WELL, ALL FIVE FLOORS FROM 2020 WERE FOR A COMBINATION OF RETAIL, UH, SHOWROOM OFFICE AND PARKING. UH, THE AMENDMENT TONIGHT WOULD MODIFY THAT FOR THE FIFTH FLOOR TO BE USED AS A SINGLE RESIDENTIAL UNIT, APPROXIMATELY 4,300 SQUARE FEET. THE REMAINING FIRST FOUR FLOORS WILL REMAIN AS WE'RE PROGRAMMED FROM 2020. THE REMAINING SITE IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING PARKING, LANDSCAPING, FACADE, UH, ARE NOT PROPOSED TO BE MODIFIED WITH THIS AMENDMENT. THE REASON THIS AMENDMENT HAS COME BEFORE YOU IS DUE TO A MODIFICATION OF THE NOISE CONTOURS FOR THE ADDISON AIRPORT. SO LAST YEAR THE TOWN, UH, ENGAGED A AVIATION PLANNING CONSULTANT TO DO A NOISE STUDY, UH, WITH THAT NOISE STUDY. THE RESULT OF THAT WAS A RELOCATION OF THE NOISE CONTOUR, WHICH NO LONGER PUT RESIDENTIAL, UH, USE RESTRICTIONS ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AS YOU SEE IN THE EXHIBIT, UH, THE RED, UH, LINE IS THE PREVIOUS NOISE CONTOUR AND THE BLUE IS THE NEW UPDATED NOISE CONTOUR WITH THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN BLACK. SINCE THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NO LONGER WITHIN THAT, UH, 65 DECIBEL NOISE CONTOUR, IT IS NOW, UH, AVAILABLE TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL USES, UH, UNDER THE F A A RESTRICTIONS STAFF NOTIFIED ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SITE THAT INCLUDED 10 RECIPIENTS. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY, UH, RESPONSES TO THAT. AND AT THE AUGUST MEETING, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED, UH, APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY FOR THIS ITEM. AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT, UH, WITH, UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO CONDITIONS. I APOLOGIZE. ONE IS MISSING. UM, BUT THE FIRST IS THAT A MAXIMUM OF ONE RESIDENTIAL UNIT IS ALLOWED. AND THE SECOND IS THAT THE NOISE CONTOUR BE CONSIDERED FROM THE UPDATED 2023, NOT NOISE CONTOUR, UH, NOT THE PREVIOUS, UH, NOISE CONTOUR. I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PRESENT. QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? MARLON, I GOT A QUICK QUESTION, LESLIE. UM, WELL FIRST OF ALL, HAPPY BIRTHDAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, AND MY QUESTION IS, DO, DO WE KNOW WHEN THE NOISE, UH, MODELING STUDY COMPLETED OR WHEN WAS THAT REAL RECENT? YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT WAS IN MAY OF THIS YEAR. SO THE, THE NOISE CONTOUR, THE NOISE CONTOUR STUDY WAS UPDATED, UH, IN, UM, AHEAD OF THE AIRPORT MASTER PLAN, WHICH WILL BE COMING LATER. WE HAVE GOTTEN APPROVAL THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, CONSIDERATION OF ZONING ITEMS, LAND USE ITEMS WITH THE UPDATED NOISE CONTOURS AT THIS TIME. VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? VERY GOOD. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. SO WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, A MOTION APPROVAL WITH, UM, AS RECOMMENDED WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CONDITION FROM STAFF CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED. SECOND MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION HERE IF WE COULD. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. OKAY. JUST TO CONFIRM, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM DARREN GARDNER AND A SECOND FROM EILEEN RESNICK. AND WE'RE IN DISCUSSION NOW. WELL, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? GQ? NO, I JUST WA I I WANTED TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND, UH, UM, HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, MINUTES TO, UH, SPEAK TO THIS PROCESS. ? WELL, MY NAME IS BOB BAUMAN. MY ADDRESS IS 49 0 1 ARAPAHOE ROAD, 48 0 1 ARAPAHOE ROAD. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING, I'VE LISTENED TO ALL THE CONVERSATIONS TONIGHT. AND WHAT MOST OF Y'ALL PROBABLY DO NOT KNOW ABOUT ME IS MY FAMILY BROUGHT THE PROPERTY AT 49 1 4 9 1 7 LAKE FOREST DRIVE IN 1965. SO I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THIS TOWN EVER SINCE. AND, UM, I LOVE THE CITY OF ADDISON. MY BUSINESS STARTED IN THIS CITY AND IT IS STILL HERE TO THIS DAY. I'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT I'VE SEEN TONIGHT BECAUSE THE WORLD [04:00:01] IS MADE OF PEOPLE AND PEOPLE ARE NOT PERFECT. AND WE WILL ALL AT TIMES AGREE AND DISAGREE WITH ONE ANOTHER. BUT TO LISTEN TO Y'ALL TONIGHT AND TRY AND MAKE DECISIONS ON WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS FAIR FOR THE CITY AND THE WAY Y'ALL HAVE GONE ABOUT THAT, I'M VERY IMPRESSED. I'M NOT IMPRESSED THAT I SAT HERE FOREVER, MANY HOURS THAT I HAVE . NOT AT ALL. IN FACT, I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU PUT DECISIONS THAT CAN BE MADE AHEAD OF DECISIONS THAT WILL BE HERE ALL NIGHT, BECAUSE I LOVE TO BE AT HOME RIGHT NOW ASLEEP, BUT WITH ALL SINCERITY. I LOVE ADDISON. ONE OF MY GREATEST JOYS IN THE WORLD WAS TO BUILD A BUILDING THAT WOULD NOT BE ANOTHER GLASS TOWER. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD STAND OUT, THAT WOULD BEAUTIFY THE CITY OF ADDISON. SO I'M JUST HONORED TO BE HERE TONIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOUR VOTES, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING EACH OF YOU IS DOING TONIGHT, YOUR COMMITMENT TO BE HERE THIS LATE, TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THIS CITY, AND NOT ON MY RESIDENCE, BUT ON WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THIS WHOLE CITY. AND SO I THANK YOU, I HONOR YOU, AND I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BOB. ANYTHING ELSE? GQ? NO MA'AM. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? EILEEN, I JUST HAVE TO SAY I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT YOUR BEAUTIFUL NEW BUILDING. UH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING, SEEING YOUR NEW SPACE WHEN IT'S DONE. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING A LONG-TERM RESIDENT, BUT ALSO A LONG-TERM BUSINESS OWNER HERE. YOU'VE GOT, UH, YOU GOT A FIRST CLASS OPERATION OVER THERE, SO CONGRATULATIONS. UM, ANY OTHERS? ANY OTHERS? SEEING NO OTHERS? UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU BOB. ITEM, LISTEN TO ANYTHING ELSE. ITEM [c. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request for a Special Use Permit (SUP) for property located at 4021 Belt Line Road, Suite 107, that is currently zoned Planned Development (PD), through Ordinance No. O17-07, to allow a restaurant with the sale of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption. Case 1884-SUP/4021 Belt Line Road, Suite 107 (Luxe).] C HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, S U P FOR PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 4 0 2 1 BELTLINE ROAD, SUITE 1 0 7, THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD THROUGH ORDINANCE NUMBER 0 1 7 DASH ZERO SEVEN TO ALLOW A RESTAURANT WITH THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR ON-PREMISES CONSUMPTION CASE. 1 8 8 4 DASH SLASH 40 21 BELTLINE ROAD, SUITE 1 0 7 LUX LESLIE. YES, LESLIE KNIGHT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. UH, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM THE, UM, CONSIDERATION BY THE APPLICANT, AND SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THAT ITEM THIS EVENING. TAKE THAT OFF AND [d. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on a request to amend Special Use Permit (SUP), Ordinance No. O14-022, for property located at 14960 Landmark Boulevard, that is currently zoned Commercial-1 (C-1), to allow the sale of beer and wine for off-premises consumption. Case 1889-SUP/14960 Landmark Boulevard (Holiday Inn Express & Suites).] WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR D. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A REQUEST TO AMEND SPECIAL USE PERMIT. S U P ORDINANCE NUMBER. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE OH ONE FOUR, NOT 0 0 1 4 DASH 0 2 2 FOR PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 1 4 9 6 0 LANDMARK BOULEVARD THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL ONE C ONE TO ALLOW THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE FOR OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION CASE. 1 8 8 9 DASH U SLASH 1 4 9 6 0. LANDMARK BOULEVARD HOLIDAY IN EXPRESS AND SUITES. LESLIE LESLIE KNIGHT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT, UH, 14,960 LANDMARK BOULEVARD. THIS IS AN EXISTING, UH, HOTEL HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS AND SUITES. UH, THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING, UH, FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND THEY ARE COMING, UH, BACK TO REQUEST A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE SALE ALCOHOL WITHIN THEIR MARKET PANTRY. UH, THIS SITE WAS, UH, FIRST REZONED FROM APARTMENT TO COMMERCIAL IN THE SEVENTIES. IT WAS, UH, REZONED, OR EXCUSE ME, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN 2014 TO ALLOW, UH, THE EXISTING HOTEL. UH, THAT HOTEL OPENED IN 2017 AND HAS, UH, REMAINED SINCE. AND ONCE AGAIN, THERE, UH, COMING BEFORE YOU TO ASK FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOL FOR, UH, OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION. THE, UH, MARKET PANTRY CURRENTLY EXISTS IN THE LOBBY OF THE, THE HOTEL. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE A BEVERAGE FRIDGE, WHICH WILL, UH, HOLD BEER AND WINE FOR THE, UH, TO SELL TO HOTEL GUESTS AS AN ADDITIONAL ACCOMMODATION. UM, THIS WILL BE LOCATED BEHIND THE, THE CHECK-IN DESK AND ONCE AGAIN AVAILABLE, UH, FOR PURCHASE FOR HOTEL GUESTS. [04:05:02] UM, BEFORE YOU ARE A COUPLE OF IMAGES OF THE EXISTING MARKET PANTRY AND, UH, BEVERAGE COOLER, UH, THEY WILL HAVE TO BE REQUESTED BY, UH, FROM CUSTOMERS TO THE EMPLOYEES TO RETRIEVE IT. IT WILL NOT BE, UH, AVAILABLE TO, UM, I GUESS GRAB AND GO WITHIN THE MARKET PANTRY. ADDITIONALLY, THEY'RE PROPOSING BEER AND WINE, UH, IN EITHER, UM, PLASTIC OR ALUMINUM BOTTLES. THEY DON'T WISH TO HAVE A GLASS. AND, UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO, UH, FOLLOW ALL T B C REQUIREMENTS AS IT RELATES TO THE SALE OF ALCOHOL AS WELL. THERE ARE NO PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO THE PARKING OPEN SPACE, LANDSCAPING OR, UH, EXTERIOR OF THE EXISTING HOTEL. UH, ONE ITEM THAT STAFF IDENTIFIED DURING A COMPLIANCE INSPECTION IS, WAS A OUTSTANDING CODE VIOLATION REGARDING THE LANDSCAPING. THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO MISSING TREES ALONG LANDMARK BOULEVARD. THE THOSE WERE IDENTIFIED AND NOTICE OF VIOLATION WAS, UH, SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. UH, THEY HAVE AGREED TO REPLACE THEM DUE TO THE EXTREME HEAT, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD AS OF LATE IN HOPEFULLY OUR PAST. NOW, UH, WE HAVE ALLOWED AN EXTENDED, UH, COMPLIANCE TIMELINE TO AND HOPE HOPES THAT IT WILL BE A SUCCESSFUL REPLANTING OF THOSE TREES. UM, SO STAFF DOES NOT AT THIS POINT, UM, RECOMMEND DELAYING CONSIDERATION OF THIS SS U P FOR REPLACEMENT OF THOSE TREES AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO RESOLVE THAT CODE VIOLATION, UH, THROUGH OUR TYPICAL CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESSES. STAFF NOTIFIED ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET AND DID NOT, UH, RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. THE AUGUST MEETING, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, UH, WITH, UH, THE FOUR CONDITIONS, UH, PROVIDED, WHICH IS THAT, UM, THERE SHALL NOT BE ANY GRAPHIC TERMS OR DEPICTIONS OF ALCOHOL IN THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. UM, THE SALE OF ALCOHOL SHALL BE LIMITED TO HOTEL GUEST. THAT IS THE INTENT THAT THAT IS CONSUMED IN THE HOTEL ROOMS AND NOT, UM, IN A BAR AREA WITHIN THE LOBBY, FOR EXAMPLE. AND THAT, UH, IF IT AT ANY POINT THE SALE OF ALCOHOL IS PROPOSED TO EXPAND WITHIN THE HOTEL, THEY WOULD'VE TO COME BACK TO YOU ALL FOR A, UM, AN ADDITIONAL SPECIAL USE PERMIT. I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, WITH THAT I'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS. ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS ITEM TO THE COUNCIL? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS STATED. THANK YOU, EILEEN. AND A SECOND FROM DAN CIO. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU LESLIE, AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY. THANKS FOR SPENDING YOUR SPENDING IT WITH US. SORRY, . ALL ITEM [e. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on an Ordinance of the Town of Addison, Texas approving and adopting the Annual Budget for the Fiscal Year beginning October 1, 2023 and ending September 30, 2024 and making appropriations for each office, department, agency and project of the Town, providing that expenditures for said Fiscal Year shall be made in accordance with the adopted budget, unless otherwise authorized by an Ordinance adopted by the City Council, and providing for emergency expenditures and expenditures as otherwise allowed by law.] FOUR E HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON, TEXAS, APPROVING AND ADOPTING THE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024. AND MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR EACH OFFICE, DEPARTMENT, AGENCY AND PROJECT OF THE TOWN PROVIDING THAT EXPENDITURES FOR SAID FISCAL YEAR SHALL BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ADOPTED BUDGET, UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY AN ORDINANCE ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND PROVIDING FOR EMERGENCY EXPENDITURES AND EXPENDITURES AS OTHERWISE ALLOWED BY LAW. STEVEN, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. AND THIS IS OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 2024, UH, BUDGET. AND THEN AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, ALSO WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE APPROVING THE BUDGET, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, UM, AS WELL. SO OUR PROPOSED BUDGET, WHICH IS ON THE TOWNS WEBSITE. AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH OUR THIS YEAR WITH OUR, UH, BUDGET WORKSHOPS AND THROUGH A COUPLE OF WORK SESSIONS, THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES TO THAT PROPOSED BUDGET, WHICH ARE DETAILED HERE. UH, WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, WE'VE INCREASED, UH, INVESTMENT REVENUE, SALES TAX, PROPERTY TAX, WHICH IS OFFSET BY A REDUCTION IN PROPERTY TAX AND THE DEBT SERVICE FUND. UH, WE'VE ADDED POSITIONS, UH, RELATED TO A CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER. A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, UH, HAVE REMOVED A FACILITY STUDY, UH, PHASING PLAN OR REMOVED ONE, UH, PROPOSED F T E, UH, FOR A FACILITY ATTENDANT, UH, REMOVED A THEATER CENTER, UH, STUDY, UH, ADDED 1% TO THE COMPENSATION POOL. UH, REDUCED, UH, T M R S BY A CHANGE IN THOSE BENEFITS, WHICH, UH, DOESN'T AFFECT OUR, UH, RETIREE BENEFITS, BUT, UH, SAVES THE TOWN SOME MONEY, UH, ADDS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT [04:10:01] POSITION. AND THEN INCREASED, UH, CONTRIBUTIONS TO METROCREST SERVICES AND WOVEN HEALTH. UH, THEN WITHIN OUR SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND, UH, WE ADDED, UH, THE, UH, ONE-TIME COST FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER POSITION, WHICH IS A VEHICLE. UH, UH, THE SAME THING FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER POSITION THE VEHICLE FOR THEM, UH, STARTUP FUNDING FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES PROGRAM. AND THEN ONE TIME, UH, COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT POSITION, WHICH IS ALSO PRIMARILY A VEHICLE. AND THEN WITHIN THE HOTEL FUND, UH, THERE WAS IN THE PROPOSED, UH, CITY MANAGER PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, A $60,000 OVERSTATEMENT. WE'VE CORRECTED THAT. UM, RELATED TO THE THEATER CENTER, UH, IN THE UTILITY FUND, UH, THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDED A 5.5% INCREASE IN WATER AND SEWER RATES, UH, THROUGH WORKSHOPS THAT WAS REDUCED DOWN TO 4.5%. UH, SO WATER REVENUE WAS REDUCED BY ABOUT $98,000 IN SEWER REVENUE BY ABOUT $88,000. UH, WITHIN THE IT REPLACEMENT FUND, UH, WE REMOVED A PA SYSTEM FROM THE ATHLETIC CLUB AND THEN IN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND DUE TO A FAVORABLE, UH, RESULTS FROM THE BOND SALE THAT WAS ON AUGUST 8TH, UH, REDUCED PROPERTY TAX BY ABOUT $41,000. AND THEN ALSO INTEREST EXPENDITURES, UH, BY THE SAME AMOUNT. SO OVERALL STAFFING SUMMER FOR SUMMARY FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS. SO IN FISCAL YEAR 2024, UH, THE PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDES 316.5 FULL-TIME EQUIVALENTS. UH, THAT'S, UH, AN 8.5 FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT INCREASE FROM, UH, THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 2023. UH, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, ABOUT 4.5. UH, THEN WE HAVE A, A, A SHIFT FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND OF ONE F T E TO THE HOTEL FUND. UM, SO ONE INCREASE IN THE HOTEL FUND, ONE DECREASE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. UM, AIRPORT FUND STAYS THE SAME. A HALF AN F T E INCREASE IN THE UTILITY FUND, A STORM WATER FUND TO 3.5, UH, F T E INCREASE. OTHER THAN AN OVERALL, UH, LISTING OF ALL THE DECISION PACKAGES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. UH, SO WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, UH, THERE IS AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR POSITION, UH, A MENTAL HEALTH WELLNESS PROGRAM FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, UH, TESTING OR, OR INSPECTIONS OF THE A E D 1 23 DEVICES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. UM, BUILDING, UH, INSPECTOR, THIRD PARTY SERVICES FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, AND AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES POSITION FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. UH, THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER POSITION. THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER POSITION, BOTH FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AS WELL. UH, HALF OF A FACILITY ATTENDANT POSITION FOR GENERAL SERVICES. UH, THE LANDSCAPE POSITION FOR, UH, PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND THEN THE OPERATIONS RELATED TO THE SPROLE DOG PARK, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF, UM, INSTALLATION. SO IN TOTAL, UH, NET COST FOR THE GENERAL FUND FOR THOSE DECISION PACKAGES, $804,373. AND THEN THE DECISION PACKAGES FOR THE SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND, UH, THE ONE-TIME COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE EMERGENCY MANAGER POSITION, UM, OR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR POSITION. UH, WE HAVE THE ACTUAL PURCHASE OF THE A E D 1 2 3, UH, DEVICES, UH, TWO FIRE ADMINISTRA ADMINISTRATION VEHICLES. UH, THE ONE-TIME COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES POSITION, UH, AGAIN, THE VEHICLE FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER POSITION. THE VEHICLE FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER POSITION. UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, UH, PROGRAM STARTUP FUNDING, UH, PLANNED ASSET REPLACEMENT FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, UM, DEVELOPMENT OF AN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK VISION PLAN FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, UH, SHADE STRUCTURES THAT ARE PICKLEBALL COURTS. UH, THE ACTUAL INSTALLATION OF THE, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF AT SPROLE DOG PARK, A PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC ART INSTALLATION FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. UH, DEVELOPMENT OF A N T T A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING GATEWAY AND LANDSCAPING PLAN. UH, THE ONE-TIME COST, WHICH IS PRIMARILY A VEHICLE FOR THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT POSITION, A RECREATION, UH, VAN, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB BUILDING, AND THEN IMPROVEMENTS TO THE OUTDOOR POOL AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB. UH, SO IN TOTAL, FROM THE SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND, UH, THERE IS 2,090,284 UH, DOLLARS IN THE PROPOSED, UH, BUDGET. AND THEN FROM THE STREET SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND DECISION PACKAGES, THERE WERE TWO, UH, PAYROLL REPLACEMENTS ON ARAPAHOE AND THEN BRICK PAVER REPAIRS IN THE VITRUVIAN AREA. THE TOTAL OF BOTH OF THOSE $405,000. AND THEN WITHIN OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS, AND AGAIN, THOSE ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE GONNA BE OUR AIRPORT FUND, STORMWATER FUND, AND OUR UTILITY FUND. UH, THE AIRPORT FUND HAS ONE, UH, DECISION PACKAGE, UH, AND AIRPORT INSURANCE ADMINISTRATIVE [04:15:01] PROGRAM. UH, THE STORMWATER FUND HAS AN ASPHALT, UH, TRAILER, UH, HUTTON BRANCH OUTFALL RECONSTRUCTION, UH, RECURRING COSTS FOR, UH, MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR ANNUAL STORMWATER, UM, THROUGH ALL THEIR BASINS. UH, A STREET SWEEPER AND STREET MAINTENANCE WORKER POSITION, UH, WHICH HAS ONE-TIME COST ASSOCIATED TO PURCHASE THE STREET SWEEPER. AND THEN THE ACTUAL, UH, PERSON TO OPERATE THAT, UH, OFFSET BY SOME SAVINGS RELATED TO CONTRACTUAL SERVICES. UH, HALF OF A G I S UH, ANALYST POSITION WITHIN THE STORMWATER FUND, A PUBLIC WORK SUPERINTENDENT POSITION WITHIN THE STORMWATER FUND. UH, THE OTHER HALF OF THAT G I SS ANALYST POSITION IS WITHIN THE UTILITY FUND. UH, THEN WE HAVE A NEW UTILITY BILLING CUSTOMER PORTAL, UH, CONTRACTED UTILITY REPAIRS IN THE UTILITY FUND, UH, AND THEN ONE-TIME COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE, UH, WET WELL STRUCTURAL INSPECTION AT, UH, KELWAY LIFT STATION, AND THEN SOME NON-DESTRUCTIVE TESTING OF A 24 INCH, UH, WATER TRANSMISSION MAIN. SO IN TOTAL, THE TOTAL NET COST OF ALL OF THE ENTERPRISE FUND DECISION PACKAGES, $1,963,613. THEN GETTING INTO THE GENERAL FUND, OUR OVERALL GENERAL FUND REVENUE, 48,000 OR 48 MILLION, UH, $164,101. UH, 52% OF THAT COMES FROM PROPERTY TAXES. UH, THEN 34% OF THAT COMES FROM NON-PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH ARE GONNA BE OUR SALES TAXES AND MIXED BEVERAGE TAXES. UH, THE REMAINDER OF THAT BUDGET IS MADE UP OF FRANCHISE FEES AT 4% LICENSES, LICENSES, AND PERMITS AT 2%, UH, SERVICE FEES AT 5%. UH, RENTAL INCOME IS, IS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT, AND THEN WE HAVE INTEREST IN OTHER INCOME ALSO AT 2%. THEN ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES ARE AT $48,155,864. UH, BEING A SERVICE ORGANIZATION, ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THAT IS MADE UP OF PERSONNEL SERVICES. UH, THEN THE REMAINDER OF THAT GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE BUDGET, UH, IS CONTRACTUAL SERVICES. UM, AT ABOUT, UH, 18%, WE HAVE MAINTENANCE AT ABOUT 8%. OUR CAPITAL REPLACEMENT PROGRAM IS AT ABOUT 5%. AND THEN, UM, SUPPLIES AT ABOUT 3%. SO OVERALL, LOOK AT THE DETAILS OF THE GENERAL FUND. AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE OPERATE OPERATING REVENUE, 48,164,000. UH, THEN WE HAVE OUR, UH, OPERATING, UH, EXPENDITURES, UH, 48,155,000. SO OVERALL, UH, WE HAVE A, UH, REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES OF ABOUT $8,000. SO, UH, LOOKING AT ENDING FUND BALANCES OF JUST UNDER $20.7 MILLION OR JUST UNDER 43% OF OUR OPERATING, UH, EXPENDITURES IN RESERVE, UH, GOING ON TO THE HOTEL FUND, UH, HOTEL FUND, OPERATING REVENUE, $6.5 MILLION. UH, HOTEL OPERATING EXPENDITURES, ABOUT $6.7 MILLION. UH, OVERALL, UH, ENDING FUND BALANCE FOR THE HOTEL FUND, UH, PROJECTED TO END ABOUT $3.9 MILLION OR ABOUT 57.8% OF OUR OPERATING EXPENSES. SO IN A GOOD POSITION WITH THE HOTEL FUND. UH, THEN THE UTILITY FUND, UH, OPERATING REVENUE $16.1 MILLION, OPERATING EXPENSES JUST OVER $16 MILLION. UH, THEN IN ADDITION, WE HAVE SOME ONE-TIME DECISION PACKAGES OF ABOUT $175,000, AND THEN SOME CASH FUNDED CAPITAL PROJECTS, UH, OF 79,000. SO OVERALL EXPENSES, UH, 16,271,000, UH, WHICH BRINGS OUR ENDING WORKING CAPITAL TO JUST UNDER $7 MILLION OR ABOUT 43.7% OF OUR OPERATING EXPENSES. SO IN A GREAT POSITION THERE IN THE UTILITY FUND. AND WE HAVE OUR AIRPORT FUND, UM, TOTAL OPERATING REVENUE, $7,255,000, AND WE HAVE OUR OPERATING EXPENSES AT ABOUT SIX $6,130,000. UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL TRANSFERS TO OUR DEBT SERVICE FUND OF ABOUT $469,000, AND THEN SOME CASH FUNDED PROJECTS, UM, WHICH IN TOTAL BRINGS OUR EXPENSES TO $8,161,000, WHICH BRINGS OUR, UH, ENDING WORKING CAPITAL DOWN, UH, TO ABOUT $5.6 MILLION. SO WE'RE STILL IN A GREAT POSITION AT JUST UNDER 92% OF OUR OPERATING, UH, EXPENDITURES IN RESERVE. AND THEN OUR STORMWATER FUND. UH, SO TOTAL, UH, OPERATING REVENUE IN THE STORMWATER FUND, TWO $2,725,000. UH, OUR OPERATE OPERATING EXPENSES ARE ABOUT $2,125,000. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UH, SOME DEBT SERVICE CONTRIBUTIONS, UH, FROM THE STORMWATER FUND, $406,000, UH, SOME ONETIME DECISION PACKAGES OF $1,061,000, [04:20:01] AND THEN CAPITAL PROJECTS OF $2.8 MILLION, WHICH TAKES OUR TOTAL EXPENSES UP TO 6,392,000, UH, WHICH LEAVES 4,434,000, UH, IN RESERVE FOR THE STORMWATER FUND, OR ABOUT 208% OF OUR, UH, OPERATING, UH, EXPENDITURES OR EXPENSES. AND THEN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, UH, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 IS PROPOSED AT 54, UH, MILLION $288,686. UH, THE MAJORITY OF THAT COMES FROM VOTER APPROVED, A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND. SOME OF THOSE ARE RELATED TO PROJECTS SUCH AS MIDWAY ROAD, KELLER SPRINGS ROAD, UM, QUORUM DRIVE, MONTFORT DRIVE. SO THERE'S SEVERAL, UH, ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN THERE. UH, WE ALSO HAVE SOME, SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE FUNDED FROM, UH, UH, THE STREET SELF-FUNDED FUND, THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND. AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECTS ARE FUNDED THROUGH OUR, UH, UM, ENTERPRISE FUND, SUCH AS THE UTILITY FUND HAS BOND FUNDED AND CASH FUNDED PROJECTS. UH, STORM WATER, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, IS FUNDING, UH, $2.8 MILLION, UH, IN CASH FUNDED PROJECTS. THEN WE HAVE THE AIRPORT FUND, WHICH IS FUNDING, UH, THROUGH A MIX OF, UM, BOND PROCEEDS, GRANT FUNDS, AND CASH RESERVES. UH, SO IN TOTAL, AGAIN FOR ABOUT $54.3 MILLION FOR A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. AND THEN THE TOWN'S BUDGET CAN BE FOUND ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, UH, UNDER THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. UM, WE, UH, IF APPROVED THIS EVENING, WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATED VERSION, UH, WITH THE ADOPTED, UH, VERSION, UH, ON THE BUDGET, UH, BY TOMORROW. AND THEN I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET. AND THIS ORDINANCE, UH, MUST BE APPROVED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STEVEN? YES, I HAVE ONE. UM, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE T M R SS CONTRIBUTION AND THE, UM, COMPARISON OF THE THREE OPTIONS THERE? YES. THE REFERRING TO THE, THE, WHAT, WHAT WAS SENT OUT EARLIER, CORRECT. UM, SO FROM T M R S AND, UM, SO GOING BACK A LITTLE BIT, LAST YEAR IN 2022 FOR THE 2023 BUDGET, UM, PROCESS COUNCIL HAD APPROVED, UH, THE ADOPTION OF A 30% REPEATING COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR OUR, UH, RETIREES. UM, SO WHEN COUNCIL MADE THAT DECISION, THERE WAS ONLY ONE, UM, OPTION FOR EACH OF THOSE, UM, COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS. AND IT'S BASICALLY, IT WAS CALLED A RETROACTIVE COLA. SO THEY WOULD, T M R S WOULD LOOK BACK TO THE RETIREE'S ORIGINAL RETIREMENT DATE AND CALCULATE WHAT THEIR RETIREMENT, UH, BENEFIT WOULD'VE BEEN HAD THEY BEEN AWARDED THIS COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FROM THEIR RETIREMENT DATE. UM, SO THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR APPROVED A CHANGE TO THAT, WHICH IS ANOTHER OPTION, WHICH WOULD JUST ALLOW US TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD, WOULD LOOK AT JUST THE LAST YEAR'S CHANGE AND APPLY TO THEIR EXISTING BENEFIT. SO THE OPTIONS THAT T M R S HAD GIVEN US WERE, UM, IN ADDITION TO SHOWING US WHAT OUR CURRENT PLAN IS, THERE'S A 30% NON-REPEATING COLA OPTION, AND THEY ALSO GAVE US A 50%, UM, RETROACTIVE COLA OPTION AND THEN A 50%, UM, NON-REACTIVE COLA OPTION. SO WHAT WAS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY WAS THAT, UM, DOING THE 30% NON-REACTIVE OPTION WOULD SAVE THE TOWN A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY. IT SAVES US ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THE GENERAL FUND. UH, WE ADD ABOUT 50 RETIREES THAT WOULDN'T GET A BENEFIT UNDER THE OLD WAY, UNDER THIS NEW, UH, METHOD, THEY WOULD, UM, GET A BENEFIT. AND THEN OVERALL OUR TOTAL RETIREE POOL WOULD SEE ABOUT A $723 A MONTH INCREASE IN THEIR RETIREE BENEFIT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S COSTING US LESS TO FUND THE BENEFIT. SO, UM, OVERALL WE THOUGHT IT WAS A, A REALLY GOOD OPTION AND, YOU KNOW, IT HELPS, YOU KNOW, SOME RETIREES THAT AREN'T GETTING ANYTHING AND ALSO SAVES THE TOWN SOMEBODY. GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. YOU'RE WELCOME. WELL, WELL, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT, ABOUT THIS SAME THING, BUT I'M CURIOUS IF I SHOULD ASK THEM NOW OR JUST WAIT UNTIL THE, UH, SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM. I, I WOULD PREFER YOU ASK THEM NOW BECAUSE ASK 'EM NOW. OKAY. ALRIGHT. YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE, THE HANDOUT. UM, UM, I'M STILL TRYING TO WRAP MY BRAIN AROUND T M R S AND HOW THIS WORKS, BUT I'M GONNA TRUST YOU ON THIS. SO, SO WHEN, WHEN READING THIS HANDOUT, WE'VE GOT, UH, THIS IS PROVIDED BY TMM, T M R S. MM-HMM. , THIS IS I GUESS THE FIRST PAGE. AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE GIVEN US THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, A Q AND A, BUT IT SAYS, HOW CAN A CITY USE [04:25:02] MICROPHONE BACK ON PLEASE? THANK YOU. UH, HOW CAN A CITY USE THE NEW REPEATING COAL OPTION THEN? THE ANSWER IS, A CITY CAN ONLY USE THE NEW REPEATING COAL OPTION TO MAINTAIN OR INCREASE THEIR REPEATING COLA C P I PERCENTAGE. THEY CANNOT DISCREET DECREASE IT. UM, IS, IS THAT RELATIVE TO, TO WHAT WE'RE DOING? YEAH. WE'RE MAINTAINING AT THE EXISTING 30% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT LEVEL. OKAY. SO, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COLA C P I, RIGHT? CORRECT. IN THAT, IN THAT Q 30% OF THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX. ALRIGHT. UM, OKAY. AND THEN I GUESS WHAT'S THROWING ME OFF IS, IS THAT THOUGHT, AND THEN I GO TO THE, THE, YOUR EMAIL AND IT TALKS ABOUT ADDISON RE RETIREES WILL, WILL SEE AN INCREASE IN BENEFITS OF $723 PER MONTH UNDER THE NEW OPTION. AND THEN LATER ON IT SAYS THE OPTION INCORPORATED INTO THE BUDGET IS OPTION ONE, WHICH LOWERS THE TOWN'S PENSION LIABILITY BY ABOUT 1.4 MILLION, UH, WHILE REDUCING THE TOWN'S REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION RATE FROM 17.2%, TWO 6% TO 16.68% AND GENERATES A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN GENERAL FUNDING SAVINGS. SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE, HOW, HOW, HOW, I LOVE THE THOUGHT OF OUR RETIREES GETTING MORE $723 MORE PER MONTH, UM, HOW THAT WORKS. AND THEN WE, WE ALSO SAVE AT THE SAME TIME. CAN YOU, CAN YOU KIND OF JUST IN LAYMAN'S TERMS SURE. SO, AND, AND THOSE ARE CALCULATIONS THAT T M R S T M R S'S ACTUARIES DO FOR US? SO, UM, I, I'D SAY IT'S KIND OF A BEST OF BOTH WORLDS SCENARIO THAT IT REDUCES OUR, UH, REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION. SO THAT PERCENTAGE IS OUR REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE ON THE EARNINGS OF THE EMPLOYEES. UM, SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'D SAY IT'S A KIND OF A DOUBLE BENEFIT THAT THROUGH, THROUGH THIS NEW METHOD THAT, BECAUSE SEVERAL OF OUR OLDER RETIREES WHO WERE PREVIOUSLY GETTING A COLA UNTIL 2015, UM, HAVE NOT GOTTEN ONE SINCE THEN. THAT THEY WEREN'T GONNA GET ANYTHING, UM, FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND, AND MAYBE EVEN BEYOND THAT, UM, THAT IT'S A BENEFIT THAT THOSE FOLKS ARE NOW GETTING SOMETHING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, IT'S REDUCING OUR RATE. NOW, HOW THE ACTUARY GETS TO THAT, THAT'S, THAT, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT. UM, BUT WHAT I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU IS THAT THAT'S THE CALCULATION THAT THEY GIVE US. THAT'S OUR RE OUR REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION. SO, UM, WE ALWAYS WANT THAT TO GO DOWN EVERY YEAR BECAUSE , 'CAUSE IT SAVES US MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND. BUT, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, I, AGAIN, I'D SAY IT'S KIND OF A PERFECT STORM THAT IT JUST HAPPENS TO BENEFIT OUR CURRENT RETIREES AT THE SAME TIME, REDUCING THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE TO PAY AND REDUCING OUR LIABILITY. OKAY. AND DO WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND DO WE, AND, AND DO WE HAVE ANY, DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEL FOR WHETHER THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO INTO THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA EXPERIENCE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS OR IF WE'RE GONNA, SOMETHING'S REALLY GONNA JUST TOTALLY CHANGE AND WE'RE NOT WELL REALIZING THE LONG TERM SITUATION. SO, SO THEY MEASURE THIS EVERY YEAR, SO IT'S A YEAR TO YEAR. SO, YOU KNOW, OUR RATE MAY GO UP NEXT YEAR, BUT IT'S GONNA BE BASED ON MARKET CONDITIONS THIS YEAR. IT'S NOT GONNA BE BASED ON ANYTHING RELATED TO A PAST YEAR, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE FUTURE IMPLICATIONS ON, IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE A, A, A POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE EFFECT ON THE RATE GOING FORWARD. THAT'S GONNA BE A NORMALIZED RATE THAN WHATEVER, WHATEVER RATE IT IS. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THE MARKET WAS REALLY BAD AS FAR AS INVESTMENTS GO, THAT WOULD MAKE OUR RATE GO UP. IF IT'S REALLY GOOD, IT WOULD MAKE OUR RATE GO DOWN. SO IT'S MORE CONCERNED WITH THE MARKET AND NOT NECESSARILY THE EXISTING RATE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. WOULD, WOULD, UM, UH, WOULD IT, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT, THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, OUR RETIREES ARE GETTING MORE AND WE'RE, WE AS A TOWN ARE PAYING LESS BECAUSE OF, UH, THE MANAGEMENT OF THE TM T M R S, UM, SAVINGS POOL? THEY'RE VERY GOOD. YES. IS THAT KIND OF HOW THAT, FOR ONE OF THE BETTER ONES AND HOW THAT MIGHT BE OCCURRING, THE HOW WE'RE PAYING LESS AND GETTING, GETTING, RECEIVING MORE? WELL, I THINK THAT THIS, THIS NEW OPTION IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE ASKED FOR FOR A LONG TIME. I THINK THAT THEIR MEMBER CITIES HAVE ASKED FOR THIS BECAUSE IT WAS PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE. AS SOME OF YOU THAT WERE ON THE COUNCIL LAST YEAR, HAD SEEN THAT SOME OF THESE OPTIONS WERE PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE. WHEN YOU'RE NOT OFFERING A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE [04:30:01] TO INCREASE YOUR, YOUR BENEFIT BECAUSE IT GOES BACK AND LOOKS AT SOMEONE WHO MAY HAVE RETIRED 20 YEARS AGO. AND YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO CALCULATE THAT COLA BASED ON THEIR RETIREMENT DATE OF 20 YEARS AGO. SO THIS NEW OPTION MAKES IT, ONE, IT'S EASIER FOR CITIES TO GET INTO AND OFFER THEIR, UM, RETIREES A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, BUT IT ALSO IS NOT AS PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE. SO I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT T M R S AND CITIES WANTED FOR A LONG TIME AND IT FINALLY CAME TO FRUITION THIS LAST YEAR. THANK YOU. WELCOME. ANY OTHERS? ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. AND SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL FOR THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED. THANK YOU, EILEEN. SECOND, SECOND FOR MARLON. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UH, I WAS GOING TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE TIMELINES THROUGH THIS, BUT REALLY MORE POINT OUT TO, FOR THE RECORD FOR THIS MEETING, THERE'S A LOT OF SAUSAGE THAT GOES INTO MAKING THE SAUSAGE. SO, UH, FOR THE VIEWERS VIEWING THIS, THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS SUCH AS LAST WEEK AND SEE TIMELINES THAT WE'RE NOT JUST APPROVING THIS. WE'VE WORKED ON THIS FOR LIKE FIVE DIFFERENT MEETINGS. SO IT'S, UM, AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GREAT BUDGET. THANK YOU, DARREN. ANY OTHERS? DAVID? OH, . ALRIGHT. AND, UH, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A ROLL CALL. VOTE IRMA. YES, SIR. UM, MAYOR ARSON. AYE. MAYOR PROM, RESNICK. AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PROAM, CONTINUE IT. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER NANCY CRAIG. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER DARREN GARDNER. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER DAN CIO. COUNCIL MEMBER MARLON WILLISON. AYE. MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU, IRMA. THANKS EVERYBODY. MOVING ON TO ITEM [f. Hold a public hearing, present, discuss, and consider action on an Ordinance to levy taxes for the Town of Addison, Texas, and to fix and adopt the tax rate of $0.609822 for the Town on all taxable property for the Fiscal Year beginning October 1, 2023 and ending September 30, 2024.] FOUR F HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE TO LEVY TAXES FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON, TEXAS. AND TO FIX AND ADOPT THE TAX RATE OF 0.0 0.6 0 9 8 2 2 FOR THE TOWN ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024. STEVEN. GREAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, AND THIS IS OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE'VE HAD ON THE TAX RATE. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, AT THE END OF THIS, UH, UH, PUBLIC HEARING, THERE'S THE ORDINANCE, UH, APPROVING THE TAX RATE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. UM, SO JUST A REMINDER OF, OF HOW WE GOT HERE, SOME OF OUR KEY DATES. UM, SO WE PUBLISHED NOTICE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING BACK ON, UH, FRIDAY, AUGUST 25TH. UM, WE HAD OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, UH, ONE WEEK AGO TODAY ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 5TH. WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING FOR THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. AND THEN, UM, ALSO FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE, THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE. AND THEN ON SUNDAY, OCTOBER 1ST WE'LL BEGIN OUR FISCAL YEAR. SO SOME TAX RATE DEFINITIONS. WE HAVE OUR, UH, M AND O RATE, WHICH IS MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS RATE. UH, THIS FUND'S OUR GENERAL FUND INFRASTRUCTURE, INVESTMENT FUND AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND. AND THIS IS WHAT YOU MAY THINK OF WHEN YOU, UH, THINK OF HOW DO WE PAY FOR POLICE OR FIRE SERVICES OR PARKS, UH, GENERAL ADMINISTRATION, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THEN WE HAVE OUR INTEREST IN SINKING RATE OR THE I N S RATE, UH, WHICH CAN BE REFERRED TO AS THE DEBT RATE. UH, THIS IS FOR, UH, TO SERVICE, UM, CERTIFICATES OBLIGATION THAT MAY BE, UM, TO SUPPORT, UM, YOU KNOW, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT OR ANY, ANY, UM, UH, VOTER APPROVED DEBT SERVICE IS ALSO INCORPORATED INTO THAT. UH, THE TOTAL OF THOSE TWO MAKES THE TOTAL TAX RATE. UH, THEN SOME OTHER DEFINITIONS. WE HAVE OUR NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE. UH, THIS IS THE RATE THAT WILL PROVIDE THE SAME REVENUE ON THE SAME PROPERTIES AS THE PREVIOUS YEAR AS PROPERTY VALUES GO UP THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE GOES DOWN. AND THEN AS IF PROPERTY VALUES HAPPEN TO GO DOWN, THEN THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE WOULD GO UP. UH, THEN WE HAVE OUR VOTER APPROVAL RATE, AND THIS IS THE MAXIMUM RATE ALLOWED BY LAW BEFORE GOING TO VOTERS FOR MANDATORY ELECTION APPROVAL. SO LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY TAX VALUES AND RATES. SO OUR TOTAL CERTIFIED, UH, TAXABLE VALUE IS $6.16 BILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 2024. THAT'S AN INCREASE OF FIVE, UH, FROM $5.63 BILLION IN 2023. AND THEN THE PROPOSED, UH, PROPERTY TAX RATE, UH, IS THE SAME AS THE CURRENT PROPERTY TAX RATE AT 60.98 CENTS. [04:35:02] UH, SOME ADDITIONAL TAX RATE INFORMATION RELATED TO THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE. YOU CAN SEE A VERY SLIGHT DIFFERENCE, UH, RELATED TO THAT, UH, LESS THAN ONE 10TH OF ONE PENNY. UH, THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, HOWEVER, DID GO DOWN ABOUT 5.30 CENTS. AND YOU CAN SEE THE ADOPTED AND PROPOSED RATES ARE THE SAME AT 60.98 CENTS. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THE TAX RATE, UH, THE TOWN DOES OFFER A 20% GENERAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, UH, A $50,000 EXEMPTION FOR SENIORS AND A $60,000 EXEMPTION FOR DISABLED PERSONS. UH, SO LOOKING AT OUR OVERALL PROPERTY TAXPAYER DISTRIBUTION IN ADDISON, UH, ABOUT 85% OF OUR TOTAL TAX BASE IS RELATED TO COMMERCIAL AND BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY. AND THEN 15% OF OUR TAX BASE IS RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. AND THEN WHEN WE TAKE THAT AND WE APPLY THAT TO THE GENERAL FUND, UH, ABOUT 8% OF OUR TOTAL GENERAL FUND BUDGET IS FUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX. AND THEN 92% OF OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET IS FUNDED BY ALL OTHER REVENUE, AND THAT MAY BE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAX, SALES TAX, MIXED BEVERAGE TAX, AND ALL THE FRANCHISE FEES AND OTHER FEES THAT THE TOWN COLLECTS. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR TOTAL TAX RATE OVER THE, THE LAST 10 YEARS, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S BEEN FAIRLY STABLE WHEN WE INCORPORATE EVERYTHING INCLUDING DALLAS, I S D DALLAS COUNTY SCHOOLS, UH, THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, UH, PARKLAND HOSPITAL, DALLAS COUNTY, ALONG WITH THE TOWN'S TAX RATE. UH, IT'S BEEN AT OR BELOW ABOUT $2 AND 50 CENTS FOR THE MAJORITY OF THAT 10 YEARS. UM, IN 2023 IT WAS ABOUT $2 AND 37 CENTS FOR 2024 WE'RE SHOWING THAT SAME AMOUNT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE, THE, UH, AMOUNTS, UM, FROM THE OTHER ENTITIES YET. BUT I WOULD EXPECT THAT THAT WOULD DECREASE FROM THAT, UH, 2.37 CENTS, UH, THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW. THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR IMPACT ON THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER, UH, PER MONTH, UH, SO OVERALL FOR PROPERTY TAX, UH, AN AN AVERAGE HOMEOWNER WOULD EXPECT ABOUT A $25 AND 24 CENTS INCREASE PER MONTH. AND JUST, JUST FOR A FULL DISCLOSURE, WE INCLUDED ALSO WATER AND SEWER RATES, UH, IN HERE, WHICH ARE PROPOSED TO GO, UH, UP, UH, IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, ABOUT A DOLLAR AND 22 CENTS INCREASE IN WATER ABOUT A DOLLAR 67, UH, IN SEWER. SO A TOTAL AVERAGE MONTHLY INCREASE, UH, FOR OUR AVERAGE RESIDENT OF ABOUT $28 AND 13 CENTS. AND THEN I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TAX RATE. AND THEN THIS, UM, THE, THIS ORDINANCE, UH, IS REQUIRED BY THE TAX CODE TO BE, UH, ADOPTED, UH, WITH THE FOLLOWING MOTION AND THEN ALSO MUST BE ADOPTED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STEVEN? YES, SIR. YES, MAYOR, I DO YOU GO AHEAD JQ. STEVEN, CAN YOU TELL US, UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, SENIOR EXEMPTION, UH, SENIOR EXEMPTION THAT, UH, WE HAVE, WE MAKE AVAILABLE? SURE. SO THE SENIOR EXEMPTION IS $50,000. SO BASICALLY IF SOMEONE IS A SI LIVES IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, UM, THEY'RE OVER 65, THEY CAN CLAIM THAT EXEMPTION, UH, THROUGH THE, UM, APPRAISAL DISTRICT, UH, WHICH WOULD BE BASICALLY WHATEVER THE MARKET VALUE OF THEIR HOME IS, THEY WOULD REMOVE 50% FOR THAT EXEMPTION AND THEY WOULD BE TAXED ON, UH, THAT LOWER AMOUNT IS AND IS THERE AN UPPER LIMIT STATE LIMIT LIMIT TO THIS EXEMPTION? THERE'S NOT A LIMIT ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THAT ONE. THERE IS A LIMIT ON THE GENERAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND THE TOWN IS AT THE LIMIT OF 20% OF THE GENERAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE INCREASE TO THIS, UH, UH, AMOUNT ON THE EXEMPTION, WHEN DO WE HAVE TO START THAT PROCESS NEXT YEAR? YEAH, SO I BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. WE WERE GONNA BRING THIS BACK, I BELIEVE, AT THE BEGINNING OR END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. DAVID, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT? RIGHT? YEAH. UH, THIS DISCUSSION AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, WE SAID WE WOULD BRING THIS IN JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR, UM, WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE DEADLINE OF JULY 1ST, UM, THAT A DECISION HAS TO BE MADE. YEAH, I BELIEVE I MENTIONED THAT JULY 1ST IS THE DEADLINE, BUT IF WE GET IT IN BEFORE THEY PRINT THEIR NOTICES, UH, WHICH IS REALLY THE, I THINK IF WE GOT IT IN BY THE MIDDLE OF APRIL, IT WOULD BE INCORPORATED IN THE NOTICES THAT GO OUT TO YOUR RESIDENCE. SO DO WE HAVE TO, IS THIS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA COME UP TO US, UH, BROUGHT BY, UH, YOU DAVID, OR DO WE HAVE TO ASK FOR THIS? COUNCIL'S ALREADY GIVEN DIRECTION TO HAVE A WORK SESSION. VERY GOOD. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR. THANK YOU. THANKS Q MARLON. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. UM, ONE OF THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS I ASKED WAS TO SEE THE TAX RATE OF, OF OURS VERSUS THE, OUR COMPARATOR CITIES MM-HMM. , AND IT'S SOMETHING I'M, I'M USED TO SEEING ON A SURE. ANNUAL BASIS. DO WE HAVE A SLIDE THAT SLIDE AVAILABLE? WE DO. OKAY, GREAT. [04:40:04] SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FOCUS ON, UM, WHEN I'M, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS IS, UH, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TALK ABOUT ADDISON BEING IN THE SWEET SPOT AND, UM, FOR ME, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE, WE SIT AND WHERE, WHERE EVERYTHING'S GROWING AND, AND MOST OF THINGS GROWING IN D F W AND ESPECIALLY THE PLATINUM CORRIDOR. SO I'M VERY COGNIZANT ABOUT, UH, DALLAS'S TAX RATE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE PLATINUM CORRIDOR, UH, WHERE, WHERE WE ARE, UH, BUT ALSO JUST A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF US IN, UM, PLANO AND THEN A LITTLE BIT NORTH IN FRISCO. UM, AND, AND MY MY THOUGHT IS WE NEED TO BE GOING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE YEARS. WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF, OF, UH, OUR COMPETITORS FROM A, A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT BECAUSE SO MUCH OF OUR, UM, PROPERTY VALUES COME FROM OUR, OUR COMMERCIAL 85%. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY WITH COMMERCIAL AND, AND WHY THEY WANT TO BE WHERE THEY WANT TO BE. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO SOME DEGREE, I I, I GOTTA BELIEVE, UH, THE BIGGER THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, TAXES COME INTO, INTO EFFECT TO SOME DEGREE. SO I'M HOPING WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP THIS IN MIND AS WE PROGRESS IN TIME OVER THE NEXT, NEXT FEW YEARS. THANK YOU, MARLON. ANY OTHERS? OKAY, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, OUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING. UH, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL? SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ASK NANCY CRAIG TO MAKE THIS MOTION. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF 0.6 0 9 8 2 2 PER A HUNDRED DOLLARS VALUATION, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY AN 8.37% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. SECOND. FROM GQ. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ROLL CALL. OH, ROLL CALLS. ROLL CALL. OKAY, EVERYBODY GOT IT? COUNCIL MEMBER WILLISON. A. COUNCIL MEMBER CIO. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER GARDNER AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CRAIG AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PROM. T AYE. MAYOR PROM, RENICK. AYE. MAYOR . AYE. MOTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT PASSES. WE'LL MOVE INTO ITEM [a. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between the Town of Addison and High Street Residential, Inc., adopting general development terms for the Trammell Crow Mixed Use project, providing for negotiation of Definitive Agreements that will set forth the specific obligations of the parties with regard to the project, and authorizing the City Manager to execute the MOU.] FIVE, ITEM FOR CON INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN EXPEDITIOUSLY MOVE THROUGH THESE ITEMS, UH, GIVEN THE LATE HOUR. ITEM FIVE, A PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING M O U BETWEEN TOWN OF ADDISON AND HIGH STREET RESIDENTIAL INC. ADOPTING GENERAL DEVELOPMENT TERMS FOR THE TRAMMELL CROW MIXED USE PROJECT, PROVIDING FOR NEGOTIATION OF DEFINITIVE AGREEMENTS THAT WILL SET FORTH THE SPECIFIC OBLIGATIONS OF THE PARTIES WITH REGARD TO THE PROJECT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE M O U. KIM. GOOD MORNING CITY COUNCIL. ? UH, YEAH, NOT YET. UH, SO THIS M O U IS REALLY REFLECTIVE OF THE COMPLEXITY OF, UH, A MASTER PLAN REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT. SO THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WE DO ON ALL THE ZONING ITEMS THAT COME BEFORE YOU, BUT, UH, DUE TO COMPLEXITY OF, OF A LOT OF THE TERMS OF THE, THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT YOU APPROVED TONIGHT, UH, WE FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO BACKSTOP, UH, THAT AND TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE UNIQUE, UNIQUE CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE. UH, SO REALLY IT, IT ADDRESSES A SERIES OF ITEMS. UH, I'LL START WITH, UH, THE FIRST ONE. UH, GIVEN THAT IT IS A HORIZONTAL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S GONNA BE MULTIPLE COMPONENTS. UM, AND, UH, PARTICULARLY WITH THE TOWNHOME COMPONENT, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT, UH, THEY GET STRONG, UH, PROPERTY OWNER ASSOCIATION AND COVENANTS THAT ADDRESS THE ENTIRE PROJECT. UH, SO THINGS SUCH AS, UH, ULTIMATE MAINTENANCE OF THE MANY PRIVATE AMENITIES, UH, THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT, UH, THAT IS IDENTIFIED. UH, THINGS SUCH AS, UH, MANAGING PARKING, UH, THROUGH THE SITE, WHICH IT HAS MULTIPLE USES, EQUALLY IMPORTANT, UH, WE'LL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS THOSE AS THEY MOVE FORWARD IN THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS. A SECOND THING, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT IT A BIT IN THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING. UH, THERE IS A OPTION FOR THE TOWN SIMILAR TO WHAT [04:45:01] WE DO WITH THE TREE HOUSE PROJECT. IF THEY FAIL TO, UH, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY, UH, INITIATE CONSTRUCTION TWO YEARS, UH, FROM CO OF THE, UH, MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING, UH, THEN, UH, THE TOWN WOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO PURCHASE THE DEVELOPED LOTS AND TO SEEK OUR OWN TOWN HOME DEVELOPER. ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THAT CONSIDERATION WOULD BE, IF THAT'S NOT AN OPTION, UH, WE COULD ALSO CONSIDER CONVERTING IT TO PARKLAND AND HAVING THE DEVELOPER AMENITIZE THAT, UH, LIKE THE AMWAY PROJECT, WE ALSO ADDRESSED, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY THAT EXISTS HERE AND PROVIDING FOR MODIFIED CONSTRUCTION WORK HOURS. UH, WE NEED TO STRIKE A BALANCE WITH THIS 'CAUSE THEY DO ULTIMATELY NEED TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT AND THEY NEED TO HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN HOURS WHERE THE CLIMATE'S A LITTLE COOLER. BUT, UH, WE DID INCLUDE SOME RESTRICTIONS ON SITE WORK, SO THEY'RE NOT DOING IT DEEP INTO THE WEEKEND OR VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING OR EVENING HOUR, UH, TO, UH, ACCOMMODATE AND, AND, UH, RESPECT THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. UM, SIMILAR TO THE ADDISON GROVE PROJECT, WE HAVE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, UH, FOR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. UH, THE MODEL THAT THIS DEVELOPER, UH, UM, APPLIES TO THEIR PROJECTS IS A, IT'S A MERCHANT DEVELOPMENT MODEL, SO THEY WILL ULTIMATELY SELL, UH, THIS PROJECT. SO HAVING, UH, ASSURANCES, UH, WE DON'T THINK IT'S AN INCREDIBLE NEED BECAUSE THE INVESTMENT, BUT BACKSTOPPING IT IN THE EVENT THAT IT EVER BECOMES A NEED TO, UH, APPLY STANDARDS FOR FUTURE PROPERTY MANAGERS AND DO THAT THROUGH DEEDED RESTRICTIONS. UM, WE SPOKE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS. UH, SO THAT COULD BE PRIVATE EVENTS THAT THEY HOST, BUT ALSO WE WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A FRAMEWORK FOR THE TOWN TO PARTNER, UH, WITH EVENTS ON THIS PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO THERE'S, UH, LANGUAGE ADDRESSING THAT PUBLIC ART HUGE COMPONENT. THEY HAVE THREE PUBLIC ART PIECES IN THEIR CONCEPT PLAN. SO THEY ARE GOING TO COMMIT TO $250,000 TOWARDS THAT PUBLIC ART TO HAVE SOME, UH, REALLY HIGH QUALITY INSTALLATIONS IN THE PROJECT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE SUSTAINABILITY ITEMS IN, UH, THE ZONING CASE. SO, UM, UH, GREEN BUILDING CERTIFICATION, ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. THEY WILL BUILD A BUS SHELTER ON BELTLINE AND MAINTAIN THAT. AND THEN ALSO THE MEDIAN ON SURVEYOR BOULEVARD WILL BE CONSTRUCTED, UH, BY, UH, THE, AND, UH, THE DEVELOPER AND THE LANDSCAPE WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THEM AS WELL. THE LAST ITEM, UH, WAS A STATEMENT OF SUPPORT FOR CONTINUED, UH, RESTRICTIONS INTO THE FUTURE. UH, FOR THE ADDISON GROVE PROJECT, UH, JUST THE STATEMENT OF SUPPORT FOR THAT, UM, THAT WOULD CARRY FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT ADDRESSING SUPPORT THAT, THAT, UM, BOLLARD CONDITION RESTRICTING ACCESS TO EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY REMAIN IN PLACE, UH, FOR ETERNITY. UH, SO WITH THAT, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, AND SINCE HE TOOK ACTION ON THE ZONING CASE, UH, UH, WE JUST RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CASE OF THIS M O U. QUESTIONS FOR KEN? YES, SIR. UM, MARLON, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. UH, KEN, ON THE REDUCED CONSTRUCTION WORK HOURS, WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE CURRENT ONES ARE? UH, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S IN THE M O U? UH, SO IN THE M O U, UM, THERE'S, UH, SO THE, THE CURRENT WORK HOURS ARE SEVEN TO 10, UH, AS I RECALL, AND I CAN PULL UP THE DOCUMENT TOO. UH, I BELIEVE IT LIMITS SITE WORK TO START A LITTLE LATER IN THE MORNING SO IT'S NOT RIGHT AT 7:00 AM SHARP. AND THEN ON THE WEEKEND, INSTEAD OF IT BEING 10, UM, 7:00 AM TO 10:00 PM THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, THERE'S SOME LIMITATIONS. YOU CAN'T DO IT ON SUN, WORK ON SUNDAYS, NOT ON HOLIDAYS. AND THEN I BELIEVE SITE WORK IS, UH, PROHIBITED FROM OCCURRING AFTER NOON ON SATURDAY. IT PRIMARILY, IT, IT REALLY IS INTENDED TO LIMIT EXTERIOR WORK ONCE THEY GET INTO THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDINGS, UH, THAT, THAT CONDITION IS NOT A NEED. OKAY. UM, OKAY, SO, SO YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T TOTALLY KNOW, BUT, BUT WE THINK IT'S, UH, WELL, IT'S IN YOUR PACKET. YOU CAN, YOU CAN VIEW IT. I DON'T HAVE IT MEMORIZ. I DON'T HAVE IT MEMORIZED. DO WE KNOW WE'RE IN THE PACKET? WE COULD JUST QUICKLY GET TO IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOUR MIC'S OFF. SORRY. YOUR MIC'S OFF. THANK YOU. UH, CONSTRUCTION HOURS WILL BE LIMITED TO 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND 9:00 AM TO 5:00 PM ON SATURDAY. EXCAVATION SHALL BE PROHIBITED DAILY BEFORE 8:00 AM AND FROM 12:00 PM FRIDAY UNTIL 8:00 AM [04:50:01] MONDAY, NO CONSTRUCTION SHALL BE ALLOWED ON SUNDAY OR HOLIDAYS. THANK YOU, . THANK YOU MAYOR. KEN, I ASKED YOU THIS EARLIER, UM, ASK YOU AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, CAN WE ADD A NO SECTION EIGHT PARTICIPATION IN THE M O U FOR THIS PROJECT? I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU ADDRESS THAT QUESTION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY IN CLOSED SESSION. GQ, I'M NOT THE, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE YOU CAN'T DO THAT, UH, BECAUSE WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT BEFORE. I'LL LET WE WEIGH IN THE LIGHTS AND THEN I FIGURED OUT HOW TO WORK THE REMOTE OR THE, UH, THE SPEAKER. UM, I MEAN, YOU'RE GENERALLY CORRECT, MAYOR. UH, THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATIONS ON ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY PROJECT THAT WE WOULD DISCUSS AN EXECUTIVE, BUT I, BUT I THINK THE, THE CONSENSUS THAT'S OUT HERE NOW IS, IS, IS GENERALLY ACCURATE WITH REGARD TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. UNDERSTOOD. UM, UNDERSTOOD. SO, UH, LET'S MOVE ON. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE CONSTRUCTION HOURS? UM, I, YOUR CLARIFICATION, UH, OF THE INTENT OF THAT IS THE WORK ON THE OUTSIDE, ALL THE DIRT WORK AND ALL THAT STUFF IS, IS MORE LIMITED, MORE RESTRICTED THAN ONCE THEY GET INSIDE THE WALLS AND IT'S, IT'S MORE EXPANDED. I'M ALL FOR GETTING IT DONE AND GETTING IT OVER WITH. SO I, I'M, I LIKE THAT PLAN. CORRECT. AND WHEN WE BRING, SO THIS IS JUST A M O U, WE'LL ULTIMATELY HAVE TO BRING FORWARD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. I THINK THERE'S SOME UNIQUE THINGS WITH THIS SITE. WHEN YOU GET TO LIKE, SAY THE RESTAURANT PLAZA, IT'S NOT A, A GREAT CONSIDERATION. IT'S REALLY THE SITE WORK CONSTRUCTION OF THE TOWN HOMES ADJACENT TO, UH, THE EXISTING HOUSING WHERE IT BECOMES AN ISSUE. BUT MAINLY THE SITE WORKS. AGREED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? IS THERE A MOTION MOVE FOR APPROVAL? THANK YOU, EILEEN. SECOND. A MARLON IS THE SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM FIVE [b. Present, discuss, and consider action on the Fiscal Year 2023-24 Property Tax Revenue Ratification Ordinance.] B PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON THE FISCAL YEAR 23 24, 20 23, 24. PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, RATIFICATION, ORDINANCE. STEVEN, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UM, THE, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE REQUIRES A RATIFICATION OF THE PROPERTY TAXES IF THERE IS AN INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES. UH, SO THEY WANNA MAKE DOUBLE, DOUBLE SURE AFTER YOU'VE APPROVED A BUDGET AND A TAX RATE THAT YOU'RE REALLY SURE THAT YOU WANT TO DO THIS. SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS ORDINANCE. SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT IT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STEVEN? SO THIS, BASICALLY, IT'S YOUR FINAL ANSWER, RIGHT? ? IS THERE A QUESTION? IS THERE A QUESTION? MARLON? UH, YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY. SO THIS IS PART OF THE TAX RATE AND APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET. THIS IS NOT IT, IT IS JUST SAYING. YEAH, I, I MEANT WHAT I ALREADY VOTED ON. YEAH. THIS, THIS ITEM'S A TAX RATE. WE HAVE UTILITY RATES NEXT. OKAY. THIS IS NOT THE UTILITY RATE. OKAY. RIGHT. YOU ANSWERED THAT. THIS IS THE RATIFICATION OF THE PROPERTY TAXES. SO IT'S JUST A, A DOUBLE CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU IN FACT DO WANT THE PROPERTY TAXES TO BE WHAT YOU JUST APPROVED IN THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE. ALRIGHT? OKAY. SO WE HAD A MOTION TO SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES TO ITEM FIVE [c. Present, discuss, and consider action on an Ordinance amending Chapter 82 (Utilities), Section 82-76 and Section 82-77 of the Code of Ordinances of the Town by amending sewer rates and water rates for all customer classifications and providing that the changes to the sewer rates and water rates made herein shall be applied to monthly customer bills beginning with the November 2023 billing cycle.] C PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 82, UTILITIES SECTION 82 DASH 8 76 AND SECTION 82 DASH 77 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE TOWN BY AMENDING SEWER RATES AND WATER RATES FOR ALL CUSTOMER CLASSIFICATIONS AND PROVIDING THAT THE CHANGES TO THE SEWER RATES AND WATER RATES MADE HEREIN SHALL BE APPLIED TO MONTHLY CUSTOMER BILLS, BEGINNING WITH THE NOVEMBER, 2023 BILLING CYCLE. STEVEN, ONCE AGAIN, IRMA HAD A QUESTION. IRMA HAD A QUESTION. YES, SIR. I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER THE, THE MOTION ON ITEM B. WE MAY, WE MADE THE MOTION. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE DID. WE MAY NEED TO DO WAS THAT NOT EILEEN AND MARLON? I THOUGHT WE DID THAT FOR THE M U. YEAH, WE DID M O U. ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S GO BACK TO ITEM FIVE B. IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL BE HAPPY TO MAKE THAT MOTION. IRMA, I WILL SECOND IT. AND WHO SECONDED IT? I'LL SECOND. I'LL SECOND. DAN SECONDED IT. AND WE ALREADY VOTED ON. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY, THANKS. THANK YOU IRMA FOR KEEPING US ON TRACK. SORRY, STEVEN. [04:55:05] OH, DID, OH, OKAY. BACK TO YOU. OKAY, UH, SORRY. UM, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, UH, BEFORE YOU IS THE, UH, UTILITY RATE ADJUSTMENT THAT'S IN THE BUDGET THAT YOU JUST APPROVED. SO THIS IS A 4.5% INCREASE TO WATER AND SEWER RATES, UM, WHICH ARE EFFECTIVE, UH, FOR THE BILLS THAT GO OUT IN NOVEMBER, WHICH ARE FOR OCTOBER USAGE. UH, WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT, UH, THE ORDINANCE. ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE? SECOND. AILEEN, DARREN, FIRST. SECOND. LOOK HOW FAST WE'RE GETTING ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT ONE PASSES TO EXCELLENT. ITEM [d. Present, discuss, and consider action on an Ordinance regarding the Town of Addison's Texas Municipal Retirement System benefits, adopting a non-retroactive repeating Cost of Living Adjustment (COLA) for retirees and their beneficiaries and authorizing Annually Accruing Update Service Credits and Transfer Updated Service Credits. ] FIVE D, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE REGARDING THE TOWN OF ADDISON'S, TEXAS MUNICIPAL RETIREMENT SYSTEM BENEFITS, ADOPTING A NON-REACTIVE REPEATING COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT COLA FOR RETIREES AND THEIR BENEFICIARIES AND AUTHORIZING ANNUALLY ACCRUING UPDATE SERVICE CREDITS AND TRANSFER UPDATED SERVICE CREDITS. STEVEN? GREAT. THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL. STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. THIS IS THE LAST OF OUR BUDGET ITEMS, UM, FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024. SO, UH, THIS ITEM, UH, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IS THE CHANGE FROM THE RETROACTIVE TO THE NON-REACTIVE, UH, 30% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS. SO THIS IS ALREADY INCORPORATED INTO THE BUDGET THAT YOU'VE APPROVED. UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UH, THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THE ORDINANCE. QUESTIONS FOR STEVEN? IS THERE MOTION? SO MOVE. SECOND. THE MOTION. EILEEN. DAN, FIRST AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT ONE PASSES. HOW ABOUT THAT? ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE ONE MORE TO GO. ITEM FIVE F, CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PLACE. FIVE. PLANNING AND ZONING. COMMISSIONER, RESIGNATION AND APPOINTING. OH, I DID THEN I ALREADY CHECKED IT. SORRY, I HAVE TWO MORE. SORRY. PRESENT, DISCUSS AND [e. Present, discuss, and consider action on a Resolution approving a contract agreement between the Town of Addison and Tiseo Paving Company, Inc. for construction services for the Keller Springs Drainage, Utility, and Paving Improvements Project and authorize the City Manager to execute the agreement in an amount not to exceed $16,422,095.75.] CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONTRACT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND TIO PAVING COMPANY, INC. FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR THE KELLER SPRINGS DRAINAGE, UTILITY AND PAVING IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 16,422,000 ZERO AND $95 AND 75 CENTS. UNION MAYOR AND COUNCIL SHANNON, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING SERVICES. THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU THE NIGHT IS THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE COMPLETE RECONSTRUCTION OF KELLER SPRINGS ROAD FROM AIRPORT PARKWAY TO THE DALLAS NORTH TOLL ROAD. THIS WAS PART OF THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM. WE ORIGINALLY RECEIVED PROPOSALS FOR THIS PROJECT LATE LAST YEAR. UH, THERE WERE SIGNIFICANTLY ABOVE THE AMOUNT WE HAD BUDGETED OR AVAILABLE FOR FUNDING. UH, COUNCIL SUBSEQUENTLY REJECTED THOSE PROPOSALS AND DIRECTED STAFF TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE PLANS IN THE HOPES OF, UH, REDUCING THE COST OF THE PROJECT, BUT, AND STILL NOT, UH, REDUCING THE QUALITY. WE MADE THOSE CHANGES. STAFF MADE THE CHANGES. WE RECEIVED PROPOSALS IN MAY OF 2023. WE RECEIVED ONE THAT WAS FROM TIO PAVING, UH, FOR $16.6 MILLION. UH, WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT PROPOSAL BY ALMOST $3 MILLION. SO WE WERE SUCCESSFUL ON THAT END. UH, 720 CALENDAR DAYS WAS THEIR PROPOSAL. UM, FOR THE BUDGET OF THIS PROJECT, UM, WE'VE CURRENTLY SPENT ABOUT $3.3 MILLION. UM, THAT LEAVES US $9.6 MILLION APPROXIMATELY OF THE ORIGINAL 12.9 FROM THE BOND FUNDS. WE HAVE ALMOST $4 MILLION AVAILABLE FROM DALLAS COUNTY FUNDING. WE HAVE $375,000 IN INTEREST EARNINGS, AND WE HAVE STORMWATER CASH FUNDING AVAILABLE, UH, TO PAY FOR THE STORMWATER PORTION. AND THAT TOTAL FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR CONSTRUCTION IS $16.698 MILLION. AS PART OF THE, UH, THE PROPOSAL, WE HAD SEVERAL ALTERNATES. UM, WE HAD GROUTING AND ABANDONING OF THE WATER AND WASTEWATER LINES INSTEAD OF REMOVING THEM. THAT RESULTS IN THE SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO ACCEPT THAT ALTERNATE, UH, UPGRADING STREET LIGHTING TO THE CURRENT LIGHTS WE HAVE ON BELTLINE. THE CURVED ONES, WE THINK IT WOULD MAKE A REALLY GOOD AESTHETIC. UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING INCLUDING THAT. THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL $860,000. UH, WE ALSO HAD, UH, ALTERED IN THERE TO MAINTAIN TWO-WAY TRAFFIC AT ALL TIME ON THE PROJECT, AND THAT WOULD RESULT IN A $1.6 MILLION INCREASE TO THE COST. WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT ALTERNATE, UH, USE OF HIGH DENSITY POLYETHYLENE PIPE. NOT ONLY CAN YOU USE IT AS A POND LINER, BUT YOU CAN USE IT AS PIPE, UH, IN LIEU OF A REINFORCED CONCRETE CYLINDER PIPE THAT WOULD INCREASE OUR COST BY $75,000. WE'RE NOT [05:00:01] RECOMMENDING THAT. AND THEN, UH, WE HAD AN IN THERE, SEE IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAVE SOME MONEY BY THE TOWN PROVIDING THE IRRIGATION CONTROLLERS. UM, AND IT'S JUST NOT WORTH IT FOR US TO DO THAT. UM, THE RECOMMENDED ALTERNATES FOR US WOULD INCREASE TOTAL THE, UH, THE PROPOSAL BY $410,000. BUT AFTER WE RECEIVED THE PROPOSALS, WE WENT THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE, WITH SINGLE PROPOSAL PROPOSAL, AND WE'RE ABLE TO FIND SOME COST SAVINGS, UH, ALMOST A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS SAVINGS IF WE GO FROM BRICK PAVERS IN THE MEDIAN NOSES IN SOME OTHER AREAS TO THE STAMP STAIN CONCRETE, UH, REVISED CONSTRUCTION SEQUENCING. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT THE CONTRACTOR CAME UP WITH. IT'LL HELP MAKE THE PROJECT GO FASTER, BE MORE EFFICIENT, LESS TEMPORARY PAVING, LESS ROUGH ROADS. UH, THAT'LL SAVE ALMOST $400,000. UH, REMOVING THE BUS SHELTER FROM THE PROJECT. THAT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. WE'VE TALKED TO JAN AND HER TEAM. IF WE DECIDE TO DO ONE LATER, WE CAN DO IT FOR LESS, BUT WE WILL PUT THE PAD IN FOR THAT. AND SOME OTHER MISCELLANEOUS SMALL COST SAVINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ADD UP. THE TOTAL COST SAVINGS WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH WAS $600,000. ALL TOLD, UM, AFTER THE BEST AND FINAL NEGOTIATIONS AND THE ALTERNATES WE'RE RECOMMENDING, THAT WOULD BRING THE TOTAL PROPOSED CONTRACT AMOUNT TO $16,422,095 AND 75 CENTS. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS AWARD TO TIO CONSTRUCTION IN THAT AMOUNT. BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I ALSO HAVE PATRICK DIVINITY HERE AND, UH, TODD WEINHEIMER, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TOO THAT I CAN'T ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR. SHANNON. MAYOR, I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT, UH, REMOVAL OF, OF THE BRICK PAVERS FOR THE STAMP, UH, CONCRETE IS, IS THIS IN AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE TURNING ON IT OR IS THIS JUST KIND OF, UM, THESE ARE DECORATIVE NOT IN THE PAVEMENT AREAS. THESE ARE LIKE IN THE MEDIANS, IF YOU WILL, AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO IT'S JUST A, IT'S A SAVINGS. THEY'RE STILL A VERY AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, UM, BUT IT'LL END UP WITH A COST SAVINGS. THIS WOULD NOT, NOT DRIVEN BY MAINTENANCE. SO THIS IS IN THE MEDIAN, UM, MEDIAN NOSES AND I THINK SOME OF THE SIDEWALK AREAS TOO. CORRECT. THE ACCENT AREAS AND SOME OF THE ACCENT AREAS. OKAY. IS THIS, IS THIS SIM SIMILAR TO CANOE WHERE WHAT WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED ON A SMALLER SCALE AT AT PROTON AND CANOE? THAT'S CORRECT, BUT THE COLOR WILL BE DIFFERENT. IT'LL BE THE GRAY THAT WE'RE DOING LIKE ON BELT LINE. IT MATCHED THE ACTUAL BRICK PAVERS THAT WERE SPECKED. UM, AND WE, WE WORKED WITH THE, UH, PARKS DEPARTMENT ON, SO. OKAY. AND, AND TYPICALLY IN THE MEDIANS, WOULD WE HAVE LIKE LANDSCAPING IN CERTAIN AREAS? WE WOULD, BUT IN WHEN IT STARTS TO GET CLOSE TO THE ENDS OR THEY GET NARROW, WE WANT TO USE PAVING INSTEAD OF LANDSCAPING. OKAY. SO THIS IS, OKAY, SO THIS IS NEAR THE ENDS OF THOSE MEETINGS? THAT'S CORRECT. I GOT IT. I GOT IT. OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST TO CLARIFY, THE, UM, SO THE TOTAL FUNDING IS, IS ABOUT $276,000 MORE THAN THE ANTICIPATED COST? I I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE. YEAH, ALMOST 300. AND THAT'S MAYBE BUFFER OR, UH, CONTINGENCY OR, SO WE HAVE IN ALL OF OUR MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECTS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LINE ITEM IN THERE FOR OWNER'S CONTINGENCY. SO THAT IS BUILT INTO THE 16, THE CONTRACT AMOUNT. AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE'D HAVE THE OTHER APPROXIMATELY 300,000 AVAILABLE TOO, IF WE NEEDED TO. GOOD, GOOD TO SEE ANYTHING ELSE? MR. COMMENT, MAYOR, WANNA THANK SHANNON AND HIS TEAM FOR, UH, REVIVING THIS PROJECT AND HELPING TO TURN IT, UH, CREATIVELY INTO A PROJECT, UH, THAT I CAN SUPPORT. IS THERE A MOTION, UH, WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, THANK GQ AND NANCY'S A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. THE OPPOSED THAT ONE PASSES. NOW WE'LL [f. Consider action on a Resolution accepting the Place 5 Planning & Zoning Commissioner resignation and appointing a new Place 5 member to fill the unexpired term.] GO TO ITEM FIVE F. THANK YOU. CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PLACE. FIVE. PLANNING A ZONING COMMISSIONER RESIGNATION, AND APPOINTING A NEW PLACE FIVE MEMBER TO FILL THE UNEXPIRED TERM. AND WE'LL TURN TO COUNCIL MEMBER WILLISON. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK JULIE BRANSON FOR HER SERVICE ON P N Z. IT'S REALLY APPRECIATED, UM, EVERYTHING THAT SHE'S DONE. AND, UM, WITH THAT, UM, I'M, I'M PROUD TO NOMINATE, UH, JIMMY BARKER. JIMMY BARKER. IS THAT A MOTION? THAT IS A, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE JIMMY BARKER. VERY GOOD. SECOND SECOND FROM DARREN. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYE. NAY FROM, UH, FROM GQ. VERY GOOD. AND THAT PASSES AND, UH, ALSO I AGREE THANKS TO JULIE BRANSON. CONGRATULATIONS TO JIMMY BARKER, AND WE'LL [6. Items of Community Interest. The City Council will have this opportunity to address items of community interest, including: expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; information regarding holiday schedules; an honorary or salutary recognition; a reminder about an upcoming event organized or sponsored by the Town of Addison; information regarding a social, ceremonial, or community event that was or will be attended by an Addison City Council member or an official; and, announcements involving an eminent threat to public health and safety in Addison that has arisen since posting this agenda.] GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING GOOD TO SHARE? D MAYOR EILEEN, GO AHEAD. YEAH, I, I WILL MAKE THIS QUICK. I KNOW IT'S [05:05:01] LATE, BUT I WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO POLICE AND FIRE. THEY HAD, UH, THEIR NINE 11 RECOGNITION YESTERDAY, SO I'M JUST GRATEFUL FOR THEIR SERVICE AND, UM, APPRECIATE THEM REMEMBERING THOSE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANYBODY ELSE? MAYOR? I, I WOULD, UM, SO LAST FRIDAY, UH, A FEW OF US, MAYOR ATON, UM, MAYOR PRO TEM QUINTANE AND I TOOK A, A WEBINAR FOR PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES, A GREAT, UM, GREAT WEBINAR, VERY HELPFUL. UM, BUT ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD WHEN WE WE TOOK IT IS, IS, UH, FROM GQS PERSPECTIVE, HE SERVED ALMOST FIVE AND A HALF YEARS. AND, AND EVEN THOUGH HE SERVED SO LONG, HE STILL IS WANTING TO CONTINUE HIS EDUCATION, UM, AND, AND, AND, AND DO BETTER HERE. AND, AND ALSO, UH, WOULD ADD FOR THE MARY SERVED OVER SIX YEARS. SO, UM, VERY, VERY APPRECIATIVE OF, OF, OF THE WAY YOU ALL, UH, THINK AND GO ABOUT, ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS ON COUNCIL. THANK YOU MARLON. WE'RE ALL CONTINUING TO LEARN. GQ, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? NO. OKAY. WELL, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK STAFF FOR STAYING HERE UNTIL 1159 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 1159. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.