* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] GOOD [1. Call Meeting to Order.] EVENING EVERYBODY. IT IS FIVE O'CLOCK AND IT IS TIME TO GET OUR MEETING STARTED. THIS IS A MEETING OF THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING, THE FISCAL YEAR 20 23 24 BUDGET WORKSHOP. AND AS WE ALWAYS DO, WE WILL RISE AND STATE PLEDGES TO THE FLAGS. I PLED ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. FOR HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLED ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE, SAY, UNDER GOD ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE GOT GOOD. UH, WE HAVE THE ENTIRE TOWN STAFF HERE TODAY, AND THE TOWN. OUR ENTIRE COUNCIL'S HERE. SO WE OBVIOUSLY DO HAVE A CORE AND THIS, UH, WORK SESSION. WE HAVE TWO [a. Present and discuss information on employee residency incentives.] ITEMS TONIGHT. THE FIRST ITEM WILL BE ITEM TWO A PRESENT AND DISCUSS INFORMATION ON EMPLOYEE RESIDENCY INCENTIVES. THANK, THANKS, MAYOR. WE HAD, UH, TWO ITEMS FROM LAST TUESDAY. THE AGENDA THEY HAD PUT DUE TO TIME. THIS IS ONE OF 'EM. THE OTHER WAS THE C I P PRESENTATION, WHICH WAS EASY TO JUST FIT INTO THE BUDGET PRESENTATION AS WE GO OVER THAT, OVER THAT NEXT TWO DAYS. SO WITH THAT, I WILL, UH, PASS IT OVER TO VALENCIA. UM, THIS IS VALENCIA'S FIRST PRESENTATION, SO I'M EXCITED FOR VALENCIA . IT GIVES ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BRAG ON VALENCIA. SHE HAS DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB SINCE SHE'S BEEN HERE. WE, YEAH, SO HAPPY TO HAVE HER. UH, THIS ITEM ITSELF WAS A REQUEST FROM, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLISON AND COUNCIL MEMBER CIO, UM, ON, UH, RESIDENCY INCENTIVES. AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO VALENCIA. ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. VALENCIA GARCIA, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER HERE TO TALK ABOUT EMPLOYEE RESIDENCY INCENTIVES. UM, SO AS DAVID SAID, THIS WAS A COUNCIL REQUEST, UM, AND STAFF IS BRINGING FORWARD THE ITEM FOR DISCUSSION. UM, WITH THIS, WE ALSO DID AN ANALYSIS OF OUR 13 COMPARATOR CITIES TO SEE IF ANY OF THOSE HAD OFFERED AN INCENTIVE THAT'S SIMILAR TO THIS ONE. WE FOUND THAT NONE OF THEM DID. UM, SO WE STARTED TO LOOK AT OTHER CITIES THAT OFFERED SOME, UM, ACROSS THE NATION AND IN TEXAS. SO WE FOUND THERE WERE THREE CITIES IN TEXAS THAT ARE OFFERING THIS RIGHT NOW. UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AND THE CITY OF SEIN IN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA. UM, SO AUSTIN OFFERS LOANS UP TO $40,000, UM, TO THEIR EMPLOYEES FOR HOME BUYING ASSISTANCE, UM, AND OTHER RELATED COSTS. SAN ANTONIO OFFERS 10,000 OR $20,000 LOANS TO THEIR EMPLOYEES, AND THAT'S DEPENDING ON THE HOME LOCATION THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BUY IN. SO 10,000 IS FOR THE CITY LIMITS OF SAN ANTONIO, AND THEN 20,000 IS GONNA BE FOR THEIR COMMUNITY, UH, REVITALIZATION AREAS. AND THEN THE CITY OF EGINE OFFERS $5,000 LOANS TO THEIR EMPLOYEES FOR HOME BUYING ASSISTANCE. SO TO PUT THIS IN SOME CONTEXT, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 11 EMPLOYEES THAT LIVE IN THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND 128 THAT LIVE IN DALLAS COUNTY. SO THIS DOES ALSO INCLUDE THE 11 THAT LIVE IN ADDISON. SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE PLEASE? YES. TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. SO THE, THAT ONE ARE THESE PARTICULAR CITIES HAVE, WE'VE ALWAYS USED THESE AS A BENCHMARK, IS THAT WE ADDED IN? THOSE ARE CORRECT. THESE ARE OUR COMPARATOR CITIES. THOSE ARE THE 13. YES. AND WE, WE SELECTED THOSE 13. THOSE 13 WERE SELECTED IN 2014, CORRECT? THEY WERE, THEY WERE SELECTED IN 2014. AND, AND CERTAINLY I THINK AS WE TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET AND WE TALK ABOUT THE COMPENSATION STUDY THAT WILL BE GOING INTO, UM, THESE COMPARATOR CITIES ARE OBVIOUSLY PART OF THAT PROCESS OF ONGOING. WHAT I'LL SAY IS WHILE THEY WERE, THEY WERE CHOSEN BACK THEN INTERNALLY, STAFF ALONG THE WAY HAS CONTINUED TO LOOK AT THESE AND SAY, ARE THEY STILL APPROPRIATE? WE DID THAT AS WE HEADED INTO THE COMPENSATION STUDY. UM, AND I WOULD SAY THEY ARE STILL APPROPRIATE. I DON'T SEE ANY GLARING CHANGES THAT I WOULD MAKE. WE ARE CERTAINLY COMFORTABLE WITH THESE BEING OUR PREPARATOR CITIES ACROSS THE BOARD AND SUPPORT CONTINUING THEM AS A COMPARATOR CITIES WITH THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION, IN MY OPINION, AT THE UNIVERSITY PARK. I THINK. AND I THINK WE SOME, WE WE'RE GIVING YOU THE COMPENSATION DISCUSSION OR SOME, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE HAVE AVERAGES AND YOU GOT AVERAGES. SO THINK CAN KIND OF GROUP. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. DID, SO YOU SAID LOANS? YES. OKAY. ARE ANY OF THESE IN, SO TELL ME, TELL ME ABOUT LOANS. SPECIFIC LOANS FOR PART OF THEIR MORTGAGE. YES. SO THESE ARE OFFERING, UM, HOME BUYERS' ASSISTANCE. SO IT'S KIND OF DOUBLING THE INCENTIVE WITH WE'RE HELPING YOU BUY A HOME, BUT WE ALSO ARE INCENTIVIZING OUR EMPLOYEES TO LIVE WITHIN CITY LIMITS BECAUSE ALL OF THEM SAY YOU MUST BUY YOUR HOME WITHIN CITY LIMITS TO GET THESE PERKS, [00:05:01] THESE LOANS. UH, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING MORE SO THAN, UM, INCENTIVES FOR PAYROLL. WE'RE SEEING THESE, UH, DUAL INCENTIVES, IF YOU WILL, UH, LOANS. SO WHEN YOU SAY DUAL INCENTIVES, WHAT'S THE OTHER, THE BONUS ONE IN THE LOAN. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY HAVING, UM, HAVING, HAVING THE ACCESS TO THESE LOANS. OKAY. UH, AND THEN SOME OF THEM OFFER HOME BUYERS EDUCATION COURSES, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THEY HELP YOU OUT WITH THIS. OKAY. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE TOO? UM, THIS IS THE ONLY INFORMATION SLIDE, SO I THOUGHT WE HAD A SLIDE WITH HOW MANY, UH, EMPLOYEES WOULD BE AFFECTED, OR YOU MIGHT HAVE JUST HAD THE NUMBERS. THAT'S RIGHT. WE HIT THE BOTTOM 28TH. OKAY. 11. SO EITHER IN EDISON OR DALLAS COUNTY. OKAY. THOUGHT I SAW TWO . SO WHAT IS, WHAT WOULD BE THE COST IN THE TOWN FOR SOMETHING? SO THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM, UH, THAT WOULD DEPEND ON THE LOANS WE WOULD WANT TO GIVE OUT. UM, AND IT KIND OF DEPENDS THERE TOO, AMONGST THE CITIES THAT WE'RE SEEING. SOME OF THEM, LIKE AUSTIN, DO AN AMOUNT UP TO, UM, OTHERS LIKE SINE OFFER JUST A STRAIGHT 5,000. SO IT DEPENDS ON THE ROUTE WE WOULD WANT TO GO FOR THAT. YEAH. SO THE, THE REQUEST FROM, UM, I'LL THIS OVER TO YOU NOW. REQUEST FROM WILSON WAS A CAP OF 5,000 TO DO AN INCENTIVE OR NOT A WOMAN. SO I'LL HAND IT OVER. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, YEAH, UH, DAN LISIO, COUNCIL MEMBER LISIO AND I, UM, SPONSORED THIS AND, AND THE THOUGHT WAS PRETTY SIMPLE. UM, IS WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THIS MORE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY, WE'RE GONNA SEE A MATRIX OF ALL THE VARIOUS THINGS, PAY, DENTAL, HEALTH, ALL THESE THINGS THAT MAKE UP TOTAL COMPENSATION. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THING, A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE FOUND OVER THE YEARS IS WE, WE HAVE VERY FEW EMPLOYEES, OBVIOUSLY ONLY 11 THAT, THAT LIVE HERE OUT OF WHAT? THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN, THREE TWENTY FIVE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, AND, AND, UM, I THINK FOR SOME OF 'EM IT'S JUST EXPENSIVE TO LIVE HERE. AND IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO MAYBE AND SET THEM, UH, TO LIVE HERE, HELP THEM, UH, LIVE HERE, I THINK IT'D BE GREAT FOR RECRUITING. UM, AND, AND I THINK, I THINK AN EMPLOYEE THAT LIVES HERE IS GOING TO GONNA SEE STUFF AT NIGHT. LIKE WE DO SEE IT ON THE WEEKENDS. THEY'RE GONNA HEAR IT FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS. UM, AND I JUST THINK IT GIVES 'EM A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BE MORE INFORMED WITH THE DAY-TO-DAY ITEMS. AND I, AND I THINK THAT'S, UH, HELPFUL FOR OUR, FOR OUR, UM, OUR STAFF AND OUR COMMUNITY. UM, AND SO JUST A THOUGHT THAT I HAD WAS WHAT IF WE OFFERED SOMETHING ALONG THE LINE OF, UH, 3% OF SALARY, NO MORE THAN 5,000 PER YEAR. SO IT WOULDN'T BE A LOAN, BUT IT WOULD BE A, A, A RESIDENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM. AND IT'D BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD OFFER IN ADDISON BECAUSE WE'RE SMALL, UM, VERSUS OUR COMPARATOR CITIES, WHICH SOME OF THEM ARE PRETTY BIG IN, IN LAND, AND ALSO THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES THAT THEY HAVE, UH, LIVING IN THEIR CITIES. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO MATCH. AND, AND SO THIS IS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO OFFER PROGRAMS LIKE THIS. UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT TOOL FOR RECRUITING, FOR RETENTION, BUT ALSO IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING WHEN WE START GETTING INTO COMPENSATION AND WE LOOK AT THE TOTAL MATRIX, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE DIFFICULT FOR PLANO AND CARROLLTON AND FRISCO AND ALLEN AND THESE OTHER ONES TO MATCH THIS. SO I WOULD LOVE IT IF WE IMPLEMENTED SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT THIS, THAT OUR, THAT OUR COMPARATOR CITIES ARE GONNA STRUGGLE TO DO. YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT A LOAN? NO. WELL, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS AN ANNUAL, AN ANNUAL INCENTIVE. OKAY. YES. OF 3%, UH, NO MORE THAN 5,000 PER YEAR, DAN, DO YOU? YEAH. ALMOST THE CONVERSATION HE AND I WERE HAVING WHEN THAT WAS ALMOST LIKE WHEN YOU JOIN A COMPANY, YOU HAVE A 4 0 1 K YOU CAN BUY INTO. RIGHT. THERE'LL BE A, THERE'LL BE A MATCH. BUT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS NO INVESTMENT TO LIVE IN ADDISON. YOU'LL JUST LIVE ACROSS THE, ACROSS THE COUNTY LINE BECAUSE THEY'LL SAVE $25 A MONTH IN RENT. BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA PICK UP ON THAT HOMETOWN FEELING. I LIVE IN ADDISON, I WORK IN ADDISON. THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IN THE ADDISON WAY THAT GOING BACK TO JUST TO WORK AND LIVE AND PLAY IN ADDISON IS DIFFERENT THAN WHEN YOU DRIVE HOME TO CARROLLTON OR YOU DRIVE HOME TO FRISCO OR YOU DRIVE HOME BECAUSE YOUR BUDGET IS JUST RIGHT THERE ON THE EDGE THAT YOU JUST CAN'T SQUEEZE. SO THAT'S PHILOSOPHICALLY WE'RE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT INVESTING IN THE TOWN'S STAFF WHERE THEY COULD, [00:10:01] I GUESS IT WOULD BE OPEN TO ALL, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE IF YOU, IF YOU FELT A CONTRIBUTION ALMOST LIKE A FOUR OH K, COULD THE TOWN HAVE A AN INCENTIVE WHERE WE COULD HAVE A MATCH? AS IT, AS YOU GET MORE TENURED, MAYBE THE PERCENTAGES CHANGES. BUT THAT WAS ULTIMATELY THE WISH IS TO HAVE THE TOPIC BROUGHT UP, BROUGHT TO, BROUGHT TO CONVERSATION. SO DO YOU, SO DO YOU THINK THAT THE, SO SOMEBODY COULD POTENTIALLY GET A LITTLE OVER $400 A MONTH, RIGHT? AND THIS WOULD BE TAXABLE, I GUESS, RIGHT? YES. YES. SO THEY WOULD NET 300, 300 A MONTH, THREE 50 DEPENDS ON THEIR DEPENDENTS, RIGHT? YEAH. DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY FILE. YEAH. SO, SO I JUST WONDER HOW MUCH OF AN INCENTIVE THAT WOULD BE IF, 'CAUSE I MEAN, IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADDISON, WHICH IS FAIRLY EXPENSIVE AND GOING TO SOME OF OUR SURROUNDING CITIES GONNA BE MORE THAN 25 BUCKS A MONTH DIFFERENCE. UM, SO ARE YOU PICTURING THIS AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD CAUSE AN EMPLOYEE TO SAY, A CURRENT EMPLOYEE TO SAY YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ADDISON OR FOR FUTURE EMPLOYEES? I, I DEFINITELY THINK IT'D BE A GREAT RETENTION TOOL. AND I'M NOT STUCK ON 3% UP TO FIVE K. I JUST, I, AT SOME POINT WE GOTTA START SOMEWHERE MM-HMM. , UM, AND I'M, I, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST LEARNING ABOUT THIS LOAN THING NOW. I'M NOT, THAT REALLY DOESN'T A WHOLE LOT FOR ME. I, I KIND OF LIKE THE ONGOING, UM, ANNUAL, UH, THOUGHT. BUT I DEFINITELY THINK IT WOULD, UM, IT, IT DEFINITELY COULD HURT US FROM RECRUITING. IT COULD ONLY HELP US, UH, I BELIEVE. AND UM, AND IF SOMEBODY, LIKE DAN MENTIONED, IF, IF, IF THEY'RE CLOSE AND THEY'RE, AND, AND MONEY IS, IS TIGHT WHEN THEY'RE MAKING THIS DECISION MAKING, IF, IF THIS IS THE THING, WHATEVER IT ENDS UP BEING, UM, CAUSES THEM TO, TO LIVE IN ADDISON, UM, I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT. I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO LOOK BACK TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS FROM NOW AND SEE THAT WE'VE GOT THREE TIMES, FOUR TIMES AS MANY EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT MORE THAN 11, UM, LIVING, LIVING IN ADDISON BECAUSE I THINK IT, UM, UH, IT, IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S INTERESTING IS LOOKING AT WHAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE OTHER CITIES, IS THAT THEY ARE DOING THAT FOR PURCHASING HOMES. SO THEY ARE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO PERMANENTLY BE IN THEIR TOWN. MM-HMM. , WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING COULD HAVE SOMEBODY MOVING INTO AN APARTMENT AND LET SAY WE'VE GOT LOTS OF APARTMENTS. SO, UM, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT COULD ULTIMATELY BE A PRETTY EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION FOR THE TOWN. I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. AND I, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR NOT TO OFFER THIS TO FOLKS WHO LIVE IN, YOU KNOW, I WANNA OFFER IT TO EVERY NO, I UNDERSTAND. DO WE KNOW IF THOSE 11, HOW MANY ACTUALLY LIVE IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES VERSUS APARTMENTS? WE DO NOT. OKAY. ARE THOSE LOANS INTEREST FREE LOANS? DO WE KNOW? NO, THEY'RE NOT. I DON'T WANT US TO GET INTO THE LOAN BUSINESS WITH EMPLOYEES. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WISE AT ALL. RIGHT. I DON'T, THAT WAS OUR CONSIDERATION. I AGREE. OUR OUR RECOMMENDATION IS NOT TO DO YEAH. ALONE. YEAH. RIGHT. JUST TO CORRECT. VALENCIA, IS THERE, IS THERE A OUTCRY OR CON UH, RESIDENTS, EXCUSE ME, OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING FOR US? HAVE YOU HEARD THIS REQUEST AND WILL PASSED? I HAVE NOT. OKAY. SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A FEEL FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD LINE UP FOR THIS? NO, NOT AT THIS MOMENT, NO. YEAH. 'CAUSE MY QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF, BECAUSE WHEN YOU, WHEN MARLON WAS TALKING THROUGH THAT, THEY, IT GAVE ME THIS IMAGE OF YEAH. TOWN EMPLOYED OR INVESTING. 'CAUSE THEY'RE HERE AND THEY SEE THINGS AT NIGHT WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE OFF WORK AND THEY'RE ALSO SEEING THEIR NEIGHBORS WHEN THEY'RE OFF WORK. SO THEN THE QUESTION IS, WHEN I FEEL LIKE I'M EVER OFF WORK, YOU KNOW, DAVID CAN PROBABLY RELATE TO THAT, ANSWER THAT QUESTION. NO COMMENT. . SO THAT CAN BE ALMOST POTENTIAL DISTANCE OUT. I'M SIGNING IT DOWN. YEAH, SURE. YEAH. AND NOBODY'S GONNA FORCE 'EM TO MOVE HERE, RIGHT? THEY'RE GONNA MAKE THE, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. STUFF I USED TO WORK IN, I USED TO WORK IN A HOTEL BUSINESS AND PEOPLE WOULD SAY, OH, YOU WORK IN A NICE HOTEL, DO YOU EVER GET TO STAY THERE? I SAID, WHY, WHY WOULD I WANNA DO THAT? AND MY PHONE DRAIN ALL THAT LONG. SO. WELL, YEAH. I HEAR SPECIFICALLY THE OPPOSITE OF THAT FOR TEACHERS. THEY DON'T WANNA STAY IN THEIR LIVE IN THEIR DISTRICT FOR OF PARENTS. SO IS THERE A REASON WHY THEY DON'T DO, UM, PAYROLL, UH, INCENTIVES VERSUS THE LOANS? IS THERE A LEGAL [00:15:01] REASON? PERHAPS NOT THAT WE FOUND, UM, A LOT OF 'EM, LIKE I SAID, ARE REALLY JUST TRYING TO CAPITALIZE ON THE HOME BUYING ASPECT, JUST BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE ARE IN CITIES WHERE THERE'S, UM, HIGH DEMAND FOR THEIR HOUSING MARKETS AND LOW SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE UNITS AND ALSO IS, UH, PUT SKIN IN THE GAME FOR THE PERSON THAT'S USING THE INCENTIVE, CORRECT. MORE THAN JUST A LEASE OR AN APARTMENT. SO IT'S DEFINITELY A, A HIGH UP, HIGH STICKINESS. ANOTHER THOUGHT I HAD IS, UH, AS WE KNOW, SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE STAYED WITH US FOR A LONG TIME, GOT LONG TENURED, LIKE 20 YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND, UM, THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD BE THINKING ABOUT IF I'M STARTING, STARTING A CAREER. I PLAN TO BE HERE FOR SOME TIME. UM, IT ADDS UP. WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT YEAH. FIGURE MIGHT BE, I SUPPOSE ANYTHING LIKE THIS, A FUTURE COUNCIL COULD SAY, WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT ANYMORE. RIGHT. IT COULD 'CAUSE THE RATE, CURRENT COSTS OR WOULD THERE BE A CARD COST? IT WOULD, YES. YES. IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE A ANNUAL PARTY. SO WE'LL SEE A, A MONETARY, UH, NUMBER IN THE SLIDES LATER ON. WELL, I, IT IS NOT TOO DIFFICULT. $5,000 TIME. SO IT'S, UH, IT'S 55. THANK YOU. BUT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TO ADDISON. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD BE DELUSION BY PEOPLE MOVING HERE RIGHT AWAY. I MEAN, I THINK IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW IT WORKS OVER TIME, BUT I THINK AS FAR AS THE IMMEDIATE BUDGET, I THINK DOING SOMETHING, NO, I THINK, YEAH. YEAH. IT WOULD ALMOST BE MORE THE RECRUITING ARM OF, OF SOMEBODY SITTING DOWN FOR THE INTERVIEW PROCESS. AND THAT WAS A PART OF OUR PACKAGE THAT WOULD MAKE US UNIQUELY DIFFERENT THAN THOSE HAMBURG CITIES. ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR TALENTED PEOPLE IN A LONG TERM CAPACITY. AND MAYBE IT WOULD ONLY AFFECT CERTAIN LEVELS, MANAGERIAL LEVELS, DIRECTOR LEVELS, I DON'T KNOW. VERSUS, YOU KNOW, GETTING OUTTA COLLEGE, GETTING INTO JANITORIAL SERVICES MAY BE TOTALLY TWO DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS. IF THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE WAS TO DO IT, UM, I, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE DO IT FOR EVERYBODY. I THINK IF THE GOAL IS TO TRY TO HAVE PEOPLE HERE, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK I WOULD ATE IT. I WOULD I AGREE. DAVID OR MAYOR, EXCUSE ME. DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IDEA TO HEAR FROM PERHAPS PASSION ON THE RECRUITING RETAINAGE GOT VIEW OF IT? THIS, I ALWAYS LIKE HEARING . WELL, UM, I HAD TO BLESS YOU TO WORK WITH VALENCIA ON THIS PROJECT. SHE WILLING TO LEAD. SO PROBABLY THE GREAT WORK SHE DID. UM, WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT THIS FROM A RECRUITING AND RETENTION STANDPOINT. WE WOULD JUST NEED TO DO SOME WORK ON, UM, HOW WE WOULD LAY THIS OUT, THE DIFFERENT PARAMETERS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT. HOW DO WE, UM, TOUCH BASE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE STILL WITH US IN ADDISON AS WE PAY THAT THROUGHOUT WHATEVER PROCESS. SO WE'LL NEED TO DO SOME MORE WORK, BUT FROM A RECRUITING STANDPOINT, WE COULD DEFINITELY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. YEAH. IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, I, I'D KIND LIKE TO GET A FEEL FROM KIND OF THE PULSE OF, OF THE, UH, OF THE EMPLOYEES. IS THERE ANY INTEREST IN IT? ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE NOT, I HAVE NOT IN MY TIME HERE HAD SOMEONE APPROACH ME ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY. SO WE COULD DEFINITELY DO SOME SURVEY WORK AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL THROUGH DAVID TO, TO TALK FURTHER ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY. OKAY. 11 WOULD BE IN PAPER . I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? SO WE, WE WANT PASS AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, WELL, WE WANT, YOU WANT SOME GUIDANCE FROM COUNSEL, WHETHER, WELL, I, UM, WE'RE THEN THE TIMING IS, IS PERFECT, RIGHT? WE, HOW WE'RE HAVING LIMITED CONVERSATIONS RIGHT NOW. SO, UM, IT, IT'S CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION NOW THAT WE HAVE THE BUDGET CONVERSATIONS TODAY AND THEN OVER THE NEXT NUMBER OF MEETINGS UNTIL WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE BUDGET. SO I WOULD SAY IF, IF, IF THERE'S AT LEAST AN INTEREST IN CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION, WE WILL CON WE'LL SHOW IT AS WE MOVE FORWARD AS AN OPTION IN THE BUDGET, UM, AS WE LOOK AT OTHER THINGS THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR FUNDS. UM, I THINK THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE THE START. AT SOME POINT AS WE GET TO CLOSER, WE NEED TO GET THE DECISION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. UM, WE COULD CERTAINLY DO A SURVEY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, THAT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE RESULTS. I THINK, UH, MAYOR, I THINK THAT'D BE NO PROBLEM ABOUT ANY ACTUALLY GOING FORWARD, FINDING OUT PERHAPS SURVEY, MEASURING THE INTEREST OF THOSE WE HAVE HERE. AND THEN OF COURSE PASSION'S GONNA LENCIA, UM, ROLE COME TO US AND SEE HOW, HOW THAT COULD POSSIBLY [00:20:01] AFFECT MM-HMM. , I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE, AS YOU CONSIDER IT WHEN YOU'RE IN YOUR OFFER, INCENTIVE, SOME OF IT WOULD, SOME OF A PIECE OF IT'S GONNA BE FOR RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT. BUT IF, IF IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IS THE REASON TO DO IT. IF THE REASON TO DO IT IS SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE HERE AND THEY'RE GONNA SEE MORE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO REWARD THEM FOR THAT. AND WHAT, TO KIND OF USE YOUR WORDS AND TO PARAPHRASE YOUR WORDS, THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT. AND I THINK YOU'RE SAYING BOTH PIECES, BUT I THINK IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, I WOULD KEEP BOTH OF THEM IN. RIGHT. IF I COULD ASK JUST A QUICK QUESTION, UH, WHEN YOU, UH, WHEN YOU SURVEYED AND TALKED TO THE PEOPLE ABOUT THAT WE'RE DOING IT WAS MM-HMM. , WAS, IS THIS A, A ONETIME PAYMENT EACH YEAR? A LUMP PAYMENT? OR IS THAT SPREAD OVER THE YEAR? IT WAS JUST ONE PAYMENT. ONE TIME PAYMENT. YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO STRUCTURE IT THAT WAY. I WOULD WANT TO DO IT . SO IF THEY'RE NO LONGER YEAH. I'M LOOKING AT OF RETENTION, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT BENEFIT. RIGHT. YEAH. I MEAN MM-HMM. TO GET THE, TO GET THE TENURES, AS WE ALL KNOW, EVERY, EVERY CITY'S LOOKING FOR QUALITY PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY COMING OUT OF COVID. I WANT TO COME TO AN OFFICE OR COME TO AN ENVIRONMENT OF WORK BECAUSE WORKING FROM HOME AND BEHIND A COMPUTER IS NOT, IN MY OPINION, AS PRODUCTIVE AS GETTING IN A ROOM AND DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING. I THINK GOOD THINGS COME FROM GETTING, GETTING INTERACTION IN PERSON AND ZOOMING. SO, SO I, I GO BACK TO ANOTHER QUESTION. SO IF IT'S A LOAN MM-HMM. , THEY'RE, THEY'RE HELPING WITH THE LOANS. THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE PRINCIPAL ON THE, OR THE PAYMENT, LOAN PAYMENT, ARE THEY THESE COMPARATIVE CITIES? THAT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. OKAY. 'CAUSE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A ONE-TIME PAYMENT OR A MONTHLY PAYMENT, THAT MAKES ME THINK, YOU KNOW, A LOAN'S A DIFFERENT THING. I, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING, SOME REASON WHY THEY'RE NOT DOING IT DIFFERENTLY THAN A LOAN VERSUS JUST A PAYROLL. I MEAN, WE DEFINITELY WANNA BE INNOVATORS, RIGHT. BUT THERE MAY BE A REASON WHY IT'S NOT DONE. BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT DOING IT AND THEY'RE DOING THAT JUST FOR HOME OWNERSHIP, RIGHT. WE KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. I DON'T WANT, THAT'S NOT, KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO I'M JUST SAYING WHY, HOW, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL INCENTIVE JUST, UH, APPROVING A LOAN OR WHAT'S PAYING FOR THAT PAYMENT ON $40,000? I THINK WE PROBABLY WANNA GET THOSE DETAILS. 'CAUSE IT MAY BE LESS OF AN INCENTIVE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING CERTAINLY OF 3% LESS THAN THAT. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW HOW, HOW FAR AWAY PEOPLE LIVE AND ON THE DISTANCE THAT WE'RE AT. RIGHT. OFFERING THEM TO, TO MOVE RIGHT AT TWO, JUST TRAVEL. YEAH. I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT LEVEL OF INTEREST THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, AMONG EMPLOYEES. YEAH. A PERCENTAGE WORK ON THAT. THERE'S GONNA BE A PERCENTAGE, SAY ABSOLUTE NOT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SOMETHING, THE SCHOOL SCHOOL CONVERSATIONS. I'M GONNA CHANGE THAT. I DON'T WANT UNTIL IT'S THE SURVEY, BUT I THINK THE SURVEY WILL THIS FOR MOST FOLKS. I MEAN, THE SURVEY'S GONNA BE WEIGHTED VERY HEAVILY TO SAY, RIGHT. WE WOULD PREFER OTHER INCENTIVES. UM, I WOULD, SO THAT COULD BE ONE PIECE OF YOUR DISCUSSION, BUT I WOULDN'T JUST, I DON'T WANT TO GET YEAH, I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHERE, WHERE THE SURVEYS NO, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SEE ALSO. YEAH. THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE. AND, AND MY HOPE IS THAT, UM, OVER TIME WE WILL, WE WILL ADD A LOT OF THINGS THAT MAYBE OUR OTHER COMPARATOR CITIES JUST CAN'T, MAYBE BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO BIG AND WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR SMALL SIZE, AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THEM, BUT, UM, I THINK THIS IS GONNA MAKE SENSE. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE NOW, BUT I THINK IT'S GONNA MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, THIS SPREADSHEET OF, OF ALL THE DIFFERENT COMPENSATION ITEMS THAT EVERYBODY OFFERS. AND I WOULD ALSO TO, ON THE OTHER SIDE, THIS WOULD ALSO BE THE CHEAPEST ONE FOR THE TOWN OF ANY INCENTIVE OR ANYTHING WE OFFER FOR SURE. BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE FEWER PEOPLE YEAH. TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY, IF SOMEBODY HAS A FAMILY AND THEY LIVE IN ONE OF OUR SURROUNDING AREAS IN, IN KNOW, MAYBE DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS, WE'LL CALL IT DIFFERENT. UH, GETTING THEM TO CHANGE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FROM COMING TO DSD IS THAT ARE CHALLENGING. EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THERE'S SOME, SOME OPTIONS WITH TRANSPORTING THEM ELSEWHERE. SPEND THE EXTRA AMOUNT OF MONEY ON GAS POINT JUST RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, I DIDN'T HEAR ANY, I DIDN'T HEAR FOUR PEOPLE TELL ME TO NOT TALK ABOUT THIS ANYMORE, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO BRING IT UP IN THE BUDGET CONVERSATION. OKAY? YES, PLEASE. YES. SECOND AFTER A SURVEY. THANK YOU ALL. ALRIGHT, WELL, VALENCIA'S GONNA [b. Present, discuss, and consider action on the Proposed Annual Budget for the Town of Addison for Fiscal Year 2024 (Beginning October 1, 2023, and Ending September 30, 2024), including, but not limited to, the General Fund, Utility Fund, Stormwater Fund, Airport Fund, Hotel Fund, Economic Development Fund, Information Technology Fund, Capital Replacement Fund, Infrastructure Investment Fund, and Long-Term Planning.] PUT THE BUDGET PRESENTATION AND I, I'M GONNA START US OFF AND I'M JUST GONNA DO A FEW OF THE SLIDES BEFORE WE HAND IT OVER TO, TO STEVEN. UM, BUT I OBVIOUSLY WANNA START THE CONVERSATION. I'M SURE STEVEN WILL ECHO THE SENTIMENTS AND, UH, SAY THANK YOU TO STEVEN TO OUR ENTIRE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, TO EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND DIRECTORS. AS [00:25:01] YOU'LL SEE AS WE START THE BUDGET PRESENTATION, THE BUDGET, THE BUDGET IS NOT A ONE MONTH PROCESS OR A TWO MONTH PROCESS. IT'S AN ENTIRE YEAR PROCESS AND A LOT OF THOUGHT AND HARD WORK GOES INTO IT. SO I'M APPRECIATIVE OF ALL OF THEM THAT WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION TODAY. OKAY. SO THIS IS GONNA BE A, FOR, FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IN BUDGET CONVERSATIONS, UH, UH, AT OTHER TIMES THIS IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF A, A LONGER MEETING. UM, BUT I THINK FOR GOOD REASON, I THINK IT'LL BE BENEFICIAL. UM, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA START THE MEETING BY JUST DOING A VERY HIGH LEVEL BUDGET ASSUMPTIONS KIND OF JUST TO SET THE STAGE FOR THE REST OF THE CONVERSATION ON HERE'S, HERE'S SOME OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT WENT INTO OVERRIDING PRINCIPLES FOR THE BUDGET AND SOME OF THE BASE, UH, FINANCIAL ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE HAD. AND THEN WE'LL TALK A, WE'LL, AT A HIGH LEVEL, AGAIN, TALK ABOUT OUR DECISION POINTS. AND, UH, FOR THOSE THAT ARE, THAT ARE NEW DECISION POINTS ARE BASICALLY JUST A NAME FOR A NEW PROGRAM OR SERVICE THAT WE'RE, UM, THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THE BUDGET. IT COULD ALSO BE, UH, A CURRENT SERVICE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THAT, THAT, THAT SCOPE IS INCREASED OR WE HAVE INCREASED DEMAND AND WE NEED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO CONTINUE THAT SERVICE. SO THOSE, WHEN YOU SEE DECISION POINTS, THAT'S REALLY WHAT THOSE ARE, UM, THOSE ADDITIONS TO THE BUDGET. SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THOSE AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL AT THIS STAGE, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAND IT OVER TO THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS. I THINK IT'S, UH, REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THEIR BUDGETS TO YOU, SPECIFICALLY THE DECISION POINTS. UM, AND, AND THAT WE CAN HAVE THOSE KIND OF, THOSE CONVERSATIONS AT THAT LEVEL WITH THE DIRECTORS. UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE INFINITE, INFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME, SO NOT EVERY DIRECTOR WILL GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK, BUT THEY ALL ARE HERE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS TODAY, WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE HOW FAR WE CAN GET. WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC WORKS, PARKS, POLICE, THEN A FIRE AIRPORT. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE PREPARED TO DISCUSS AS WELL, ALTHOUGH I THINK IT'S UNLIKELY WE GET TO THOSE TODAY. BUT WE WILL SEE, UH, WE ALSO WILL DO A PRESENTATION ON DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, BUT THAT WILL BE ON NEXT TUESDAY ON EIGHTH WHEN KIM IS BACK, ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF HERE, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. UM, SO AFTER THAT, SO YOU, YOU'LL SEE THE DEPARTMENTS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DIG INTO THOSE DECISION POINTS, ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO GET COMFORTABLE WITH THEM, UM, AND THEN STEVEN WILL CIRCLE BACK AND DO AN ENTIRE BUDGET PRESENTATION, UH, SHOWING WHERE WE ARE ALL TOGETHER AND ANY OF THE OUTSTANDING THINGS TO TALK ABOUT. SO THAT'S BROADLY WHAT THE PLAN IS OVER THE NEXT TWO DAYS. I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE YOU THEN EXPECTING, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO HOLD OUR QUESTION UNTIL AFTER THE DECISION PACKAGES OR I PRESENTED? YEAH, THAT'S GOOD. SO I, I WOULD ASK WHEN WE PRESENT THEM JUST NOW, JUST LISTEN TO THEM. WHEN EACH, AS THE DIRECTORS COME UP, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS IN DETAIL BECAUSE THEY'LL GO INTO THEM IN MORE DETAIL ALSO. AND THAT'S A GOOD, UH, POINT SEGUE AS WELL AS WE HAVE THE PRESENTATIONS, THEY'LL, THERE WILL BE NATURAL POINTS TO STOP FOR QUESTIONS. CERTAINLY DON'T WAIT TILL TOMORROW AT FIVE, AT FIVE O'CLOCK TO ASK ALL YOUR QUESTIONS. EVEN AS I GO, YOU'LL SEE NATURAL STOPS AS THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS PRESENT. ONCE THEY GET THROUGH THEIR DECISION PACKAGES, THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND YOU CAN ASK ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE AS STEVENS PRESENTS. THEY'LL BE NAT NATURAL STOPS FOR QUESTIONS. SO I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT YOU TO, TO HOLD THEM ALL UNTIL THEY VARY. SO, AS I MENTIONED, THE BUDGET CALENDAR, THIS IS A YEAR LONG PROCESS AND I WANT TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT WHERE IT STARTS. AND, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS IN THE NEXT SLIDES AS WELL, IS WITH THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS, UH, UH, PLANNING, UH, MEETING THAT WE HAVE, IDEALLY, THIS IS OUR IDEAL CALENDAR AND, AND WHATEVER WE'RE TARGETING FOR NEXT YEAR IS TO HAVE THOSE IN JANUARY. IT WAS A A FEW MONTHS AFTER THAT THIS YEAR. BUT THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING CONVERSATION IS REALLY AN, AN IMPORTANT ONE FOR US TO TALK ABOUT. WHAT ARE OUR KEY STRATEGIES, UM, OUR, OUR GOALS, AND THEN OBJECTIVE AS WE GO FORWARD. AND THAT HELPS US AS WE PUT TOGETHER A DECISION POINTS TO ENSURE THEY ALIGN WITH, WITH THOSE PILLARS AND WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR, UM, OUR GOALS ARE FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. INTERNALLY, A LOT OF THIS UP UNTIL THIS POINT, ALL THESE OTHER MONTHS ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES TO GET TO THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. WE HAVE THE BUDGET KICKOFF, WE HAVE DEPARTMENTS WORKING ON, ON THEIR BUDGETS AND THE FINANCE TEAM WORKING WITH THEM. UH, LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION, PROBABLY TOMORROW YOU'LL SEE KIND WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS, HOW WE GOT TO THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE. THERE'S A LOT OF BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INCREASES, THEY'RE NOT ALL JUST DECISION POINTS OR COMPENSATION. THERE'S A NUMBER OF BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS THAT GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT ARE JUST CONTRACTS INCREASING, THE COST OF SERVICES INCREASING. OBVIOUSLY WE SEE THAT A LOT WITH INFLATION OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS. AND, UH, THOSE ARE VETTED BY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THEY'RE THE, THE LOWEST POSSIBLE COST TO, TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT WE'RE GOING GOING TO PROVIDE. BUT THOSE, WE CAN, WE ADD THOSE TO THE BUDGET BECAUSE THEY CONTINUE THE SAME EXACT LEVEL OF SERVICE JUST WITH INCREASED COST. UM, WE HAVE THE, UH, THE BUDGET WORKSHOP TODAY, AND THEN OVER THE NEXT MEETINGS IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE WORK SESSIONS TO [00:30:01] DO FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS AND OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHICH YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE. UH, AND THEN WE START THE FISCAL YEAR IN OCTOBER. SO HERE'S, UH, SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS WILL LOOK LIKE. UH, YOU, YOU CAN SEE WE WE'RE HAVING OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP. NOW, UM, THE, THE TWO BIG ONES THERE WILL BE SEPTEMBER 5TH AND SEPTEMBER 12TH WILL BE OUR TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE BUDGET. WE WILL HAVE THOSE NOTICED IN ALL OF OUR, UM, REGULAR AVENUES. UH, LEADING UP TO IT WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE TAX GRADE AND BUDGET. AND THEN ON THIS 12TH, WE'LL ALSO, UM, THE PLAN IS TO ADOPT THE BUDGET THAT DAY. SO WE CAN START THE FISCAL YEAR OCTOBER 1ST. SO IN THE NEXT COUPLE PAGE, UH, SLIDES, I JUST, AGAIN, AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE PRINCIPLES THAT WE USE FOR THE BUDGET. CERTAINLY THE ADDISON WAY, UM, IS PART OF THAT. I WANNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. VALENCIA. UM, AS, AS WE CONSIDER ANYTHING THAT GOES FORWARD, AS WE LOOK AT OUR COMPENSATION STRATEGIES, AS WE LOOK AT HOW WE SUPPORT OUR EMPLOYEES, HOW WE SET UP OUR DEPARTMENTS TO GET THINGS DONE, EV ALL THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE TO ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE THE ADDISON WAY, THAT WE CONTINUE THE CORE VALUES THAT WE'VE LAID OUT OVER THE PAST YEAR, THAT WE GIVE EMPLOYEES THE RESOURCES TO GET THOSE THINGS DONE AND THAT WE'RE SET UP TO GET THOSE THINGS DONE. SO THAT'S CERTAINLY A BACKDROP TO ALL OF OUR BUDGET DECISIONS, AND I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THIS, BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD REFERENCE POINT FOR YOU AS YOU GO BACK. AS I MENTIONED THE PILLARS, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD FOR US TO GO UP TO, TO PUT THOSE IN CONTEXT FOR HERE'S OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. HERE'S WHAT WE SAID, WE'RE GONNA, HERE'S WHAT WE SAY ARE THE GOALS OF THE TOWN, AND THEN AS WE MAKE BUDGET DECISIONS TO ENSURE THEY'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK DOWN THE LEFT 10 COLUMN, YOU'LL SEE A NUMBER OF F Y 23 BUDGET INITIATIVES THAT ARE CONTINUING, TO BE HONEST, AS YOU GO DOWN THAT LIST, A LOT OF THEM ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE STARTED IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS THAT LATER ON YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE MID-YEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'VE DONE. SO WE'VE BEEN REALLY AGGRESSIVE WITH TRYING TO GET SOME OF THESE OUT THE DOOR AND EXPEDITE THEM. UH, AND ON THE RIGHT WE'VE, UH, WE'VE SLOTTED MOST OF OUR DECISION PACKAGES THERE. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY FIT INTO THE PILLARS. UH, AGAIN, I WON'T GO THROUGH 'EM HERE BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO GO THROUGH THOSE INDIVIDUALLY, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD CONTEXT WHENEVER WE HAVE BUDGETS TO SHOW IT IS TIED TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN. AND I'LL JUST DO THE NEXT SLIDE AND THEN I'LL HAND IT OVER TO STEVEN OR THE NEXT TWO SLIDES. SO IN ADDITION TO ALL THAT, AS WE WENT INTO THE BUDGET, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE REALLY TOP OF MIND FOR ME AND THEN FOR THE, FOR THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION, UH, BUILT ON THE PILLARS, BUILT ON THE CORE VALUES IN THE ADDISON WAY, WHERE I WANTED THIS BUDGET TO CREATE A VISION FOR, FOR OUR FUTURE. AND I THINK WE DO THAT IN A NUMBER OF WAYS AS YOU SEE, UH, NUMBER OF THE INITIATIVES, NUMBER OF THE STUDIES, STUDIES THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACE, SOME OF THE NEW PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO OVER THE NEXT YEAR. CERTAINLY SUPPORTING A COM A COMPETITIVE COMPENSATION PLAN. AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COMPENSATION ON THE OPERATING BUDGET SIDE, COMPENSATION IS REALLY THE PRIMARY, UH, INCREASES THAT, THAT WE'LL SEE. SO IT'S, IT'S A, THIS YEAR IN PARTICULAR, UM, WE'RE DEVOTING SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES TO OUR COMPENSATION, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN DETAIL, THE FOLLOWING THROUGH ON OUR COMMITMENT COMMITMENTS TO RESIDENTS. THIS IS, UM, IN MULTIPLE FACETS. ONE BEING OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM, SHOWING THAT WE'RE COMPLETING THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM, THAT WE'RE GETTING THOSE PROJECTS OUT THE DOOR IN THE TIME THAT WE SAID WE WOULD, UH, IN, IN THE MANNER THAT WE SAID WE WOULD. BUT IT ALSO GOES TO OUR OPERATING DEPARTMENTS. IT GOES TO CODE ENFORCEMENT TO SAY, WE HAVE ORDINANCES ON THE BOOK AND WE'RE GONNA STAFF UP AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE PROGRAMS IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN, UM, WE CAN, UM, ENFORCE THOSE CODE AND HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE LIVE UP TO OUR, OUR ORDINANCES. AND THEN ALWAYS CRITICALLY EXAMINE OUR OPERATIONS FOR INNOVATION, FOR EFFICIENCIES. I THINK YOU'LL SEE A NUMBER OF THOSE, AGAIN, NEW PROGRAMS AND NEW, UH, THOUGHT PROCESS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING TO A NUMBER OF OUR PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET. SO THIS WILL BE MY LAST SLIDE BEFORE I HAND IT TO STEVEN, BUT, AND THIS IS CERTAINLY A, A GOOD TIME TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. SO AS, AS I MENTIONED, COMPENSATION IS REALLY THE BIGGEST PIECE OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET THIS YEAR. UH, WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ON SELF-FUNDED, UH, PROJECTS, A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ON THE CAPITAL PROGRAM, BUT WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY POSITIONS. WE'RE NOT DOING A LOT ON THE OPERATING SIDE BECAUSE THE, THE COMPENSATION THAT, UM, INCREASES THAT WE'RE DOING NEXT YEAR REALLY, REALLY ARE THE PRIORITY FOR US GOING INTO THE YEAR. SO WE'RE STARTING BY DOING OUR A 4% MARKET, UH, OR A, LET ME STEP BACK. A 4% COMPENSATION POOL, WHICH INCLUDES OUR MERIT ADJUSTMENTS. AND THAT'S REALLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. WE DO A SURVEY OF SURROUNDING CITIES TO SAY, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? WHAT ARE THEY DOING GOING INTO THE YEAR, NOT A DETAILED COMPENSATION STUDY, WHICH I'LL GET TO, BUT JUST WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR INCREASES? AND THE 4% WAS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE SAW ON AVERAGE THAT OUR COMPARATOR CITIES ARE DOING. IN ADDITION TO THE 4% COMPENSATION POOL WE HAVE, WE STARTED OUR COMPENSATION STUDY A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO. IT'S ONGOING RIGHT NOW, AND THAT WILL WRAP UP IN, UH, IN THE OCTOBER TIMEFRAME IN, IN THE FALL AT SOME POINT. AND IT'S GONNA, THAT, THAT WILL, IT WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT DOLLAR AMOUNT [00:35:01] THAT WE'LL NEED TO IMPLEMENT THAT STUDY. AND WE'LL, WE CAN GO INTO DETAIL. PATRICK COULD TALK ABOUT THE STUDY IN MORE DETAIL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE, IT'S A, IT'S A STUDY TO LOOK AT EVERY, EVERYONE IN THE ROOM RIGHT NOW IS FILLING OUT QUESTIONNAIRES BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE POSITION, THERE'S QUESTIONNAIRES OF WHAT ARE, WE HAVE THE JOB DESCRIPTION, BUT WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU DOING EVERY DAY? AND SO THE CONSULTANT TAKES ALL THAT INFORMATION AND GOES TO ALL OF OUR COMPARATOR CITIES AND FINDS TRUE COMPARISONS. NOT JUST, OH, THESE JOB DESCRIP, THESE JOB TITLES ARE THE SAME, BUT DOES A A, A TRUE, UH, ONE FOR ONE MATCH AS CLOSE AS WE CAN GET. AND THEN WE'LL GET THAT STUDY BACK AND WE'LL SEE WHERE DO WE FIT. UH, OUR COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY IS TO BE IN OUR COMPARATOR CITY, 50% PLUS ONE. HOW FAR AWAY FROM THAT ARE WE? BECAUSE EVEN WHEN WE DO THESE FOUR PERCENTS EVERY YEAR, EVERY OTHER CITY'S ALSO DOING THESE COMPENSATION STUDIES AND THEY'RE MOVING THE ENTIRE MARKET. SO WHEN WE DO THE COMPENSATION INCREASES, WE'RE MOVING OUR SALARIES, BUT THIS HELPS US TO MOVE THAT ENTIRE RANGE UP TO TRY TO STAY, STAY COMPETITIVE. SO THIS GIVES US A BUCKET OF MONEY TO WORK WITH TO IMPLEMENT THAT PROGRAM, THAT STUDY IN, IN JANUARY. UM, 'CAUSE WE JUST DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT'S GONNA BE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT GIVES, IT GIVES US A HEADSTART. UM, AND AGAIN, ONCE I FINISH THIS SLIDE, WE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE'RE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THAT. ONE THING I I, YOU, YOU ALSO SEE IS OUR, WE HAVE A, A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OUR HEALTH INSURANCE OVER OUR ACTUAL RATES. IT'S AN 8% INCREASE THIS YEAR. NOW, TO PUT THAT IN CONTEXT THOUGH, WE'VE HAD, IS IT SIX YEARS? OVER THE PAST SIX YEARS, WE'VE HAD NO INCREASES TO OUR HEALTH INSURANCE RATES. THAT'S AMAZING. WHICH IS AMAZING. AND A CREDIT TO STAFF, TO PASSION IN PARTICULAR. SHE HAS DONE, UM, A LOT OF NEGOTIATING TO GET US TO THAT POINT. WE'VE HAD EVEN THIS YEAR, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS IT'S NOT AS BIG OF A BUDGET HIT BECAUSE LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME, WE PUT IN FOUR POINT HALF PERCENT IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ANTICIPATED. FORTUNATELY, WE HAD NO INCREASE. SO IT, IT HELPS US FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT WHERE IT'S NOT AS BIG OF A JUMP, BUT IT'S A SIGNIFICANT JUMP THAT WE HAVE TO, THAT WE HAVE. UM, BUT COMPARED TO OTHER PLACES WHERE THEY'VE HAD SIGNIFICANT JUMPS LIKE THIS OVER, YOU KNOW, YEAR ON YEAR, WE'RE IN A BETTER SPOT. BUT IT IS A REALITY AND IT SHOWS, UH, AGAIN, TO THE TOTAL COMPENSATION HOW MUCH WE ARE PUTTING TOWARD, TOWARD OUR EMPLOYEES. SO I'LL STOP THERE. I THINK OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A BIG DISCUSSION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS NOW, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO ANSWER. I HAVE A QUICK ONE FOR PASSION. UM, YOU SAID THAT THEY HADN'T HAD ANY INCREASE FOR EIGHT YEARS ON THE SIX YEARS. SIX YEARS. UM, HAS IT BEEN THE SAME UNDERWRITER DURING THAT TIME OR IT'S BEEN THE SAME HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY? YES. SO BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD, THEY DEFINITELY HAD DIFFERENT UNDERWRITERS WITH THE SAME COMPANY. OKAY. MM-HMM. , HOW DOES T M R S FACTOR INTO ALL OF THIS AND WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO FOR THE CATCHUP? I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT OUR TEAM RS DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. DEFINITELY RELATED. IT'S DEFINITELY RELATED. YEAH. , HE'S UP HERE. I CAN JUST, I'LL GO, I'LL SIT UP HERE. TAKE MY SPOT. UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. SO THE TEAM RS PORTION, UH, THAT IS A PORTION OF THE PERSONNEL COST. SO IT'S NOT A ONE-TIME OR A CATCH UP COST. IT IS AN ONGOING ANNUAL COST THAT COMES OUT WITH EACH PAYROLL THAT WE PROCESS. SO THAT'S INCORPORATED INTO THE PERSONNEL PORTION OF EACH BUDGET THAT HAS PERSONNEL. UM, SO, BUT THERE WAS A CATCH UP FROM THE PERIOD OF TIME WHEN WE WEREN'T DOING THAT. YEAH, THAT'S INCORPORATED INTO THE RATE THAT THEY CHARGE US. SO EVERY, EVERY PAYROLL PROCESSES AT THAT RATE, SEE THAT THAT'S ALL INCLUDED. IT INCLUDES THE, WHAT'S CALLED THE NORMAL COST AND THE, THE PREVIOUS CATCH UP RATE. I WAS LOOKING FOR A LINE ITEM IT, BUT DIDN'T FIND IT, SO THANK YOU. GOT A REAL QUICK QUESTION ON THESE FIRST AND SECOND PUBLIC HEARINGS. ON THE TAX RATES, ARE THOSE SET RATES? UM, THE SECOND ONE IS AT A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. UH, TRADITIONALLY THE FIRST ONE WE'VE HAD AT A SPECIAL MEETING THAT HAS BEEN ONE WEEK PRIOR TO, UH, THAT, THAT FIRST MEETING OF, UH, SEPTEMBER. UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT DATE. THAT'S JUST WHAT THE TOWN HAS TRADITIONALLY DONE. OKAY. YEAH, WHENEVER THE ONLY THOUGHT I HAD IS WHENEVER WE LOCK THOSE IN, I'D LOVE TO LOCK THEM IN ON, ON OUR COUNCIL CALENDAR, RIGHT? SURE. ARE WE'RE GONNA GO INTO THESE NUMBERS MORE, UH, OR IS THIS JUST TIME TO ASK, UH, QUESTIONS ON THIS? WELL, YOU, THIS IS A GOOD TIME ASKING QUESTIONS. UH, LATER ON YOU'LL SEE 'EM AS WELL AS, AS STEVEN DOES HIS FULL PRESENTATION, WE, WE HAVE IT ACTUALLY IN THE GENERAL FUND DETAILED OUT SAYS HERE'S EXACTLY HOW MUCH EACH OF THESE BUCKETS ARE FOR. BUT, UM, THIS IS THE TIME RULE. WE NEVER, SO WHAT PART OF THE TOTAL PAYROLL COST IS, UH, THAT EIGHT 8%. WHAT DOES THAT REPRESENT? A, AS FAR AS THE OVERALL PAYROLL, COST COMPENSATION, COST COMPENSATION, UM, I, I'D HAVE TO GO DO THE MATH, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S CLOSE TO SLIGHTLY OVER 10% OF OUR TOTAL COMPENSATION COSTS. OKAY. [00:40:03] AND SO THE SECOND BULLET ON, UH, HEALTH INSURANCE SIDE, PRIOR, YOUR BUDGET INCLUDED A FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE, BUT THERE WERE NO RATE INCREASES, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO BASICALLY, SINCE WE'RE ON A CALENDAR YEAR, OUR BENEFITS ARE ON A CALENDAR YEAR THAT WE DON'T 100% KNOW RIGHT NOW THAT IT'S AN 8% INCREASE. SO LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME, THEY HAD PROPOSED AN INCREASE IN PASSION. YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THEY HAD PROPOSED AN INCREASE PASSION, WAS ABLE TO NEGOTIATE THAT DOWN TO NO INCREASE. BUT AT THE POINT WHERE WE WERE PRESENTING THE BUDGET, THERE WAS A PROPOSED INCREASE FROM THE, UH, INSURANCE COMPANY. SO SAME THING AT THIS POINT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE 8.9% HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE PROPOSED. WE'RE HAVING CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS. OUR GOALS WILL BE ABLE TO GET THAT DOWN, BUT LAST YEAR WE WERE, UM, JUST UNDER 5% AND WE GOT IT DOWN TO PAST. I DON'T ANTICIPATE, BASED ON LOOKING AT OUR LOSS RATIO AND CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TEAM, THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BE, UM, MUCH LESS THAN EIGHT. BUT WE'RE GONNA WORK TO SEE IF WE CAN GET IT DOWN MORE. GOOD. OKAY. QUICK QUESTION, FOLLOW UP. UM, JUST TO BE, JUST TO BE CERTAIN, THERE HADN'T BEEN ANY CHANGES IN THE ACTUAL COVERAGE, UM, DEDUCTIBLES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? THAT IS CORRECT. THE ONLY CHANGES THAT HAVE IMPACTED OUR ACCOUNT ARE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PUSHED ON TO US ACROSS ALL BOOKS OF BUSINESS. SO IF THEY LOST A HOSPITAL SYSTEM OR SOMETHING TO THAT DEGREE, BUT CHANGES THAT WE WOULD MAKE SUCH AS CHANGING COPAYS, DEDUCTIBLES, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT HAS NOT CHANGED. WE'VE KEPT OUR SAME LINEUP OF COVERAGE. OKAY. THANK YOU. IN OUR, UM, FOLDER THAT WE GOT, IT WAS WORDED A LITTLE, WELL TO ME, IT SAID AN ADDITIONAL 4% BUDGETED TO IMPLEMENT A COMPENSATION MARKET STUDY. IT'S NOT 4% COST OF THE STUDY, IT'S ANTICIPATED 4% AS A RESULT, INCREASE AS A RESULT OF THAT STUDY. THAT'S CORRECT. STUDY AT THIS 4%. PAGE THREE. PAGE THREE. YEP. PAGE THREE, FIRST PARAGRAPH. COULDN'T IMAGINE YOU HAD MUCH, RIGHT? REALLY BAD. GREAT. WELL, YEAH, WE CAN CONTINUE, CONTINUE ON OBVIOUSLY AS WE GO THROUGH ANY OTHER QUESTION, COMPENSATION, WE WILL ANSWER 'EM. SO STEVE, DO YOU WANT? ABSOLUTELY. SO, UH, JUST TO REITERATE WHAT DAVID SAID, UH, VERY PROUD OF OUR FINANCE TEAM WITH ALL THE WORK THEY PUT IN FOR THIS, BUT ALSO WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS. WE REALLY HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP AND, UH, MAKES IT FOR A SMOOTH PROCESS AND, UH, EVERYBODY HAS ONE GOAL IN MIND WITH THIS, UH, ENTIRE BUDGET PROCESS. SO, SO WITH THAT SAID, I'M GONNA START OUT WITH SOME OVERALL BUDGET ASSUMPTIONS, UH, THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. UH, SO OVERALL TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUES INCREASE 9.4% FROM LAST FISCAL OR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. UH, 7.4% OF THAT IS RELATED TO, UH, INCREASES FROM EXISTING PROPERTY VALUES, AND THEN 2% IS FROM NEW PROPERTIES ADDED TO THE TAX ROLL THIS YEAR. UH, THE PROPOSED TAX RATE IS THE SAME TAX RATE AS, AS THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 0.61 CENTS. UH, AND THAT INCLUDES OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE, WHICH PAYS FOR, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE BASIC SERVICES, POLICE, FIRE, UH, STREETS, RECREATION CENTER PARKS, UM, AND THEN ALSO OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE IS JUST OVER 16 CENTS. UH, SALES TAX, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROJECTING THAT WE'LL END THE YEAR JUST UNDER 7% OVER THE, UH, BUDGET FROM FISCAL YEAR 2023. UH, SO WE BUDGETED 14.4 MILLION. WE THINK WE'LL END UP AT ABOUT 15.4 MILLION. UH, AND THEN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024, WE INCREASED, UH, THE BUDGET FROM 14.4 MILLION TO 15 MILLION EVEN. UH, SO THAT'S ABOUT A 4.2% INCREASE, UH, BUDGET TO BUDGET FROM, UH, FISCAL YEAR TO FISCAL YEAR. UH, SO OVERALL THE GENERAL FUND, WE PROJECT, UH, ABOUT 43% OF OPERATING RESERVES TO BE IN FUND BALANCE, UH, AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2024. AND JUST A REMINDER THAT THAT EXCEEDS THE TOWN'S POLICY OF 25%, UH, AND THE CITY COUNCIL'S GOAL OF 30%. SO STILL IN A GREAT POSITION IN THE GENERAL FUND. AND THEN WE, UH, ALSO HAVE UTILITY, UH, RATE INCREASES THAT ARE IN LINE WITH THE ADOPTED UTILITY RATE MODEL. UH, THAT COVERS FISCAL YEAR 2024 TO FISCAL YEAR 2028. AND, UH, WE INCLUDED IN THIS, UH, PRESENTATION FOR TOMORROW AS WELL. UH, THERE'S A SLIDE THAT HAS AN ALTERNATIVE, UH, STRUCTURE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, UH, RELATED TO THE RATE STRUCTURE, UH, THAT WE, WE FILL IS, IS A GOOD, GOOD OPTION AS WELL. UH, SO TOTAL, TOTAL CERTIFIED VALUE HISTORY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. UH, THE LIGHT BLUE AND ORANGE BARS ARE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. UH, YOU SEE COMMERCIAL AND BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY, THOSE ARE ALL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. AND THEN THE DARK, UH, BLUE BAR IS RESIDENTIAL. [00:45:01] UH, 15% OF THE TOTAL TAX, UH, ROLE IN ADDISON IS RESIDENTIAL AND 85% IS COMMERCIAL. AND THEN HERE YOU CAN SEE OUR SALES TAX HISTORY. SO AGAIN, SALES TAX, PRETTY VOLATILE. YES, MA'AM. ONE ON THE SLIDE. YES. TELL ME WHAT THE YELLOW IS. UH, BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY GOT. SO THIS WOULD BE A MAJORITY HERE IN ADDISON IS GONNA BE AIRCRAFT, BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE MACHINERY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IT'S REALLY JUST COMMERCIAL. HOW YOU, ONE QUESTION ON THIS CLARIFICATION. UM, FOR COMMERCIAL, UH, APARTMENTS, I THINK OF APARTMENTS IS RESIDENTIAL, IS THAT CORRECT? THEY ARE COMMERCIAL. THAT'S COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? YEAH. SO WHAT, WHAT'S INCLUDED IN RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL HOMES, TOWN HOMES, CONDOS, UH, AND THEN ONTO SALES TAX HISTORY. SO THE ORANGE BARS ARE OUR, UH, ANNUAL SALES TAX TOTALS. UH, THE BLUE LINE IS THE ANNUAL SALES TAX GROWTH. SO YOU CAN SEE SOME VOLATILITY, UH, RELATED TO SALES TAX. BACK IN 2018, WE HAD ABOUT A $3 MILLION AUDIT PAYMENT. THAT WAS A POSITIVE VARIANCE FOR US, SO THAT'S WHY THAT YEAR WAS SO HIGH. UH, 2019, WE HAD ANOTHER LARGE AUDIT PAYMENT THAT CAME INTO US. SO THAT'S WHY, UH, THAT YEAR IS SO HIGH. UH, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, GOING FORWARD, UH, FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023, THAT OUR PROJECTION THERE AT 15.4 MILLION, UH, WE'RE JUST PRO PROJECTING OR BUDGETING, UH, SLIGHTLY, UH, LESS THAN THAT AND NOT BECAUSE OF, UM, ANYTHING OTHER THAN, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO PROJECT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN RELATED TO SALES TAX. SO IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, UH, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, UH, WI WIGGLE ROOM THERE, SO TO SPEAK. STEVEN, COULD YOU SAY AGAIN WHAT THE CAUSE IS FOR THAT BIG UP, THAT BIG, UH, UPSWING? YEAH. IN, IN, IN 2018, THERE WAS A, A LARGE AUDIT PAYMENT THAT THE TOWN RECEIVED, AND THAT WAS FROM A, UH, A TAXPAYER THAT WAS PAYING TO ANOTHER, ANOTHER JURISDICTION AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING TO ADDISON. UH, THAT WAS, I BELIEVE, IN TOTAL $2.8 MILLION TOTAL THAT YEAR. UM, AND THEN IT WAS EITHER 2.8 OR, OR 1.9, I'D HAVE TO GO CHECK. UH, 2019 WE RECEIVED ANOTHER ABOUT $600,000 RELATED TO A SIMILAR SITUATION WITH ANOTHER TAXPAYER. AND THEN THEY'RE GONE. NOW THEY'RE GONE. UH, NOT GONE, BUT NOT, UH, I'D, I'D HAVE TO CHECK, BUT I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE GONE. BUT THEY ARE EITHER A CURRENT TAXPAYER OR THEY'RE GONE. SO WHEN, WHEN THEY MAKE THAT AUDIT PAYMENT, WE GET IT IN ONE LUMP SUM, UM, AS OPPOSED TO GETTING IT ON A MONTHLY BASIS OR A QUARTERLY BASIS. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ARE YOU AT LIBERTY TO SAY WHO THAT WAS? UH, I COULD NOT SAY WHO IT IS. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. KEEP AN EYE ON, OKAY. UH, FUN DEFINITION. SO AS, AS YOU LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET, UM, EXCUSE ME, YOU'LL SEE SEVERAL FUNDS AND, UM, SOME OF THEM YOU MAY SAY, HEY, WHAT, WHAT'S THIS? OR, YOU KNOW, WHY IS THIS SEPARATE? AND THAT KIND OF THING. SO I'M GONNA KIND OF GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT, WHAT SOME OF THOSE FUNDS MEAN. SO THE GENERAL FUND, THAT'S GONNA BE OUR PRIMARY FUND. UH, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE PRIMARY FUND USED BY ANY GOVERNMENT. IT'S BASICALLY USED FOR ANYTHING THAT'S NOT RESTRICTED FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE. SO THE GENERAL FUND IS GONNA PROVIDE OUR BASIC SERVICES, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, POLICE, FIRE PARKS, UM, UH, STREETS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND AGAIN, THAT REVENUE THAT WE RECEIVE IS PRIMARILY GONNA GONNA BE TAXES. SOME OF IT'S GONNA BE FEES AND, AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT IT'S CAN BE USED FOR ANY GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSE BASICALLY. UH, THEN WE HAVE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. SO AS YOU'RE, AS YOU'RE FLIPPING THROUGH YOUR BUDGET, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF REALLY SMALL FUNDS. UM, UH, THERE'S A, A COURT SECURITY COURT TECHNOLOGY. A LOT OF THOSE SMALLER FUNDS, THOSE GENERATE THEIR REVENUE FROM A SPECIFIC SOURCE, AND THAT REVENUE CAN ONLY BE USED FOR A VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSE. SO, FOR INSTANCE, WE, WE HAVE A COURT TECHNOLOGY FUND THAT REVENUE CAN ONLY BE USED TO PURCHASE TECHNOLOGY ITEMS FOR THE TOWN'S MUNICIPAL COURT SYSTEM. UM, SO THERE'S SEVERAL FUNDS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY THOSE ARE SEPARATED, UH, THE WAY THEY ARE BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE REQUIRED TO, UH, UH, SHOW THEM THAT WAY. UH, SO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND IS, UH, ANOTHER FUND THAT IS, UH, ACCOUNTS FOR A PORTION OF THE TOWN'S TAX RATE. UH, SO A PORTION OF THE TAX RATE GOES INTO THIS FUND TO SERVICE THE TOWN'S TAX, UH, SUPPORTED DEBT OBLIGATIONS. AND THEN WE HAVE ENTERPRISE FUNDS. THESE WOULD FUNCTION LIKE A, UH, SIMILAR TO A PRIVATE BUSINESS, UH, WHERE FEES AND SERVICE CHARGES ARE USED TO FINANCE THEIR OPERATIONS. UH, THE TOWN HAS THREE OF THESE. THESE WOULD BE OUR UTILITY FUND, UH, THE AIRPORT AND OUR STORM DRAINAGE, UH, UTILITY FUND. AND THEN WE HAVE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS. SO THESE WOULD BE FUNDS THAT, UH, PROVIDE SERVICES TO OTHER FUNDS OR OPERATIONS. UH, AND THEY'RE FUNDED BY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THESE FUNDS THAT THEY PROVIDE SERVICES TO. SO THE TOWN HAS THREE OF THESE FUNDS. THERE IS A CAPITAL EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND, AN IT REPLACEMENT FUND, AND THEN A [00:50:01] FACILITY MAINTENANCE FUND. SO EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAS, SAY, CAPITAL EQUIPMENT OR IT RELATED, UM, EQUIPMENT AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS CONTRIBUTES TO THESE FUNDS SO THAT THEIR ITEMS CAN BE REPLACED AT A FUTURE DATE. UM, SO THAT'S THE PURPOSES OF THOSE FUNDS. AND THEN OVERALL, LOOKING AT THE TOTAL BUDGET AND THE EXPENDITURES BY FUND, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE GENERAL FUND MAKES UP, UH, JUST UNDER 42% OF THE TOTAL, UH, TOWN BUDGET. UH, THE SECOND LARGEST FUND IS THE UTILITY FUND AT, AT JUST OVER 14%. UH, THEN WE HAVE, UH, DEBT SERVICE MAKING UP 9% OF THE BUDGET. UH, WE HAVE, UH, THE AIRPORT AT 7%, UH, THE HOTEL FUND AT 6%, AND THEN SOME SMALLER FUNDS, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT 3%. UH, THE, UM, UH, STORMWATER, UH, AT, AT ABOUT 3% INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT, ABOUT HALF A PERCENT. AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, THE COMBINED OTHER, WHICH WOULD BE ALL OF THOSE, ALL OF THOSE OTHER SMALLER FUNDS, UH, MAKE UP ABOUT 13% OF THE TOTAL. AND THEN LOOKING AT JUST THE GENERAL FUND AND EXPENDITURES BY TYPE. BEING A, A SERVICE ORGANIZATION, MOST OF, UH, THE GENERAL FUNDS EXPENDITURES ARE GONNA BE RELATED TO PERSONNEL SERVICES. UH, THAT'S TO PAY FOR POLICEMEN, FIREMEN, PARKS, EMPLOYEES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. GENERAL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, UH, THAT MAKES UP ABOUT 65.5% OF THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND BUDGET. UH, THEN WE HAVE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES AT 18.2%, AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, UTILITIES OF, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST WHAT YOU WOULD THINK OF, YOU KNOW, A CONTRACT EMPLOYER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S OUR UTILITIES. IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. UH, MAINTENANCE IS 8.2% OF THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND BUDGET. UH, THEN WE HAVE, UH, CAPITAL REPLACEMENT, AND THAT'S US MAKING CONTRIBUTIONS TO THOSE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS, UH, TO, TO, TO FUND FUTURE REPLACEMENT OF THOSE, UH, ASSETS. UH, THAT MAKES UP ABOUT 4.5% OF THE BUDGET AND THEN SUPPLIES AT 3.3%. AND THEN CAPITAL OUTLAY IS, UH, ABOUT A THIRD OF A PERCENT OF THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND BUDGET. SO NOW I'M GONNA GO THROUGH SOME, SOME ITEMS THAT WERE ADDED AS PART OF THE MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT. UM, AND, AND, AND OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, UH, JUST ITEMS THAT WEREN'T IN THE ORIGINAL FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET. BUT THINGS THAT THE TOWN HAS PROGRESSED ON, UH, AND CONTINUES TO PROGRESS ON THAT IS IN ADDITION TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET. UH, SO IN ORDER TO EXPEDITE THE CONSTRUCTION OF MONFORT DRIVE, UH, THERE IS A, UH, SECOND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT MANAGER THAT HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED, AND THAT IS, UM, UH, PAID FOR BY BOND FUNDS. SO THEIR SALARY ACTUALLY DOESN'T COME OUT OF ANY OF THE, THE GENERAL FUNDS. SO THEY'RE CAPITALIZED AS PART OF THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION OF THAT PROJECT. UM, WE HAVE CROSSWALK, BEACON, AND INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS TO IMPROVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION IN TOWN. UH, THERE WAS A, UH, OR CURRENTLY A PAVEMENT CONDITION ASSESSMENT BEING COMPLETED, UH, TO ASSIST WITH DEVELOPMENT OF FUTURE BOND AND MAINTENANCE PLANS. UM, THERE WAS A COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING MANAGER THAT WAS ADDED, UH, TO HELP IMPLEMENT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH WAS ALSO APPROVED AS PART OF THE, UH, MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT TO UPDATE THAT. UH, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, UH, IS PERFORMING SOME TREE PLANNINGS UTILIZING SOME TREE MITIGATION FUNDS THAT THEY RECEIVED. UH, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, WE ARE WORKING ON A, UH, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, COST OF SERVICE STUDY. UH, THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TO HELP US BUDGET AND PLAN FOR FUTURE YEARS, UH, RELATED TO INCREASED, UH, SERVICE DEMANDS RELATED TO THAT DEVELOPMENT, UH, RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY OR DEVELOPMENT OR PUBLIC WORKS OR PARKS AND RECREATION, UH, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE PLANNING APPROPRIATELY FOR ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT MAY BE AS A RESULT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. UH, GENERAL SERVICES, UH, PERFORMED A STAFFING AND OPERATION STUDY TO HELP DETERMINE IF THEY HAVE PROPER STAFFING AND SERVICE LEVELS, UH, TO HELP, UH, ALL, ALL AREAS OF THE TOWN AND ALL FACILITIES. UH, HUMAN RESOURCES, AS WE MENTIONED, IS, UH, PERFORMING A COMPENSATION MARKET STUDY, UH, TO ENSURE THAT MARKET, UH, COMPETITIVENESS OF OUR COMPENSATION PLAN. AND SO NOW I'M GONNA GO THROUGH, UH, DECISION PACKAGES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. AND, UH, I'M JUST BRIEFLY GONNA GO THROUGH THESE. UH, EACH DEPARTMENT IS GONNA GO INTO THESE IN MORE DETAIL AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY DETAILED QUESTION THAT YOU MAY HAVE, UH, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ANY OF THESE ITEMS. UH, SO IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THERE IS A PROPOSED EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR. UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A MENTAL HEALTH WELLNESS PROGRAM PROPOSED. UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS, UH, UH, TWO PARTS TO THIS. SO THEY HAVE, UH, A E D PURCHASES, WHICH ARE FUNDED OUT OF THE SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND, WHICH I'LL GET TO IN A SECOND. BUT THIS IS FOR THE RECURRING MAINTENANCE COST OF THOSE, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS PROPOSING TO, UH, ADD A THIRD PARTY, UH, BUILDING INSPECTOR SERVICE, UH, [00:55:01] WHICH IS OFFSET BY A, UH, TEMPORARY OR PART-TIME EMPLOYEE, UH, THAT THAT IS NO LONGER GONNA BE HERE. UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS ALSO PROPOSING AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES POSITION. UH, GENERAL SERVICES, UH, IS, UH, ADDING, UH, 1.5 FA FACILITY ATTENDANT POSITIONS, UH, WHICH HAS A SLIGHT OFFSET OF THAT BEING ALLOCATED TO OTHER, UH, DEPARTMENTS OF THE TOWN OR OTHER FUNDS. UH, GENERAL SERVICES IS ALSO PROPOSING A FACILITY, UH, FACILITY STUDY PHASING PLAN, UH, TO, UH, DEVELOP AND PROPOSE A PHASING PLAN, UH, FOR POTENTIAL NEW OR RECONSTRUCTED OR REFURBISHED, UH, FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. UH, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS PROPOSING A THEATER STUDY. UH, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS PROPOSING TO REPLACE, UH, THE TURF AT SPROOL DOG PARK WITH ARTIFICIAL TURF TURF. AND THERE'S ALSO A ONE-TIME COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT THAT I'LL GET TO. STEVEN. YES, STEVEN, THAT SLIDE, THERE'S, SO THERE'S LOOKING UP HERE, THERE'S TWO, UM, DECISION PACKAGES THAT YOU WANT HAIR DIRECTORS FROM. SO I WANT TO TOUCH ON THOSE NOW, UM, BECAUSE YOU WANNA HAVE THE DIRECTOR COME UP AND SPEAK. SO I, I'M GONNA START, I'LL, I'LL DISCUSS THE THEATER STUDY, THEN I'LL ASK TIME YOU TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE FACILITY ATTENDANT POSITIONS. SO THE THEATER STUDY IS IN THERE, UM, REALLY TO, TO HAVE A, TO, TO HAVE AN ANALYSIS OF THE ADDISON THEATER CENTER, AND AT THE POLICY LEVEL DISCUSSION OF WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE OUR GOALS WITH THE THEATER. I THINK IT'S ANYTIME YOU HAVE A, AN ASSET LIKE THE THEATER, ANYTIME YOU HAVE AN ENTERPRISE LIKE THE THEATER CENTER ITSELF, IT'S ALWAYS APPROPRIATE TO STEP BACK AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. SO AS WE MAKE POLICY DECISIONS RELATED TO THE THEATER, AS WE MAKE OPERATIONS DECISIONS RELATED TO THE THEATER, WE KNOW WHAT OUR GOALS ARE AND WHAT, WHAT'S REALISTIC. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BRING SOMEONE FROM THE OUTSIDE IN THAT UNDERSTANDS HOW TO RUN MUNICIPAL THEATERS, WHAT, WHAT THE ENVIRONMENT FOR THEATERS ARE THESE DAYS. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE INTENSE EXPERTISE ON IN-HOUSE. WE HAVE, JACK DOES A GREAT JOB AT THE THEATER OF DOING, UM, THE FUNCTIONS THAT HE DOES, BUT THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF, OF WHAT WE HAVE AT THE THEATER RIGHT NOW. SO I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, STEP FOR US TO TAKE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO WITH THE THEATER. UH, OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL COME UP TO SOME DEGREE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE HOTEL FUND, UM, LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION. UH, BUT THAT'S REALLY THE INTENT, IS THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE COME IN AND GIVE US OPTIONS OF WHAT DO WE WANT FROM IT, HOW CAN WE GET THERE? WHERE ARE SOME HOLES THAT WE HAVE? HOW COULD WE RUN MORE EFFICIENTLY? EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THEATER. SO I'M, I THINK IT'S, UM, A BIG PRIORITY. THAT'S WHY IT'S IN THE BUDGET, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT STUDY, UH, GOING FORWARD AND CERTAINLY COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON, ON WHAT THE PROGRESSIVE WAS WITH, OF PUTTING THAT IN THERE. I CERTAINLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT. UM, I KNOW THERE'RE A, AN LA FIRM, SO IS THERE ANYBODY LOCAL THAT DOES THAT? YEAH, SO I THINK AT ONE POINT, AND I THINK THE WHITE PAPER, WE WE'RE, WE WERE NOT TIED TO A FIRM YET. WE'RE GONNA DO A THEATER STUDY, WE'RE GONNA DO AN R F P AND WE'RE GONNA FIND SOMEBODY. SO I THINK, OH, I THOUGHT THERE WAS . YEAH, I THINK AT SOME, I THINK AT SOME POINT IT WAS TIED TO A, BUT WE'RE TRYING, SO TO CLARIFY, WE'RE GONNA GO OUT FOR PROPOSALS AND FIND THE MOST APPROPRIATE PERSON, MOST APPROPRIATE GROUP TO DO THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU. SO JUST A QUESTION ON THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUILDING INSPECTOR THIRD PARTY SERVICES, IS THAT, THAT'S NOT ADDING, UH, ANOTHER INSPECTOR, OR IT IS, IT'S NOT. THERE'S CURRENTLY A PART-TIME TEMPORARY EMPLOYEE THAT PERFORMS THIS SERVICE. UH, I BELIEVE, AND ASHLEY, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO RETIRE . YEAH, SO HE'S ACTUALLY, WE, HE'S BEEN WITH US FOR PRO, WELL, THE ENTIRE TIME I'VE BEEN HERE, SO ALMOST SEVEN YEARS. HE IS RETIRED, FIRST TIME FROM THE CITY OF PLANO. SO CAME WITH A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE, ONLY WANTED TO DO IT PART-TIME. HE'S NOW OFFICIALLY RETIRING, RETIRING, UM, FINDING ANOTHER PERSON TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT POSITION IN A PART-TIME CAPACITY. IT'S KIND OF LIKE FINDING A UNICORN RIGHT NOW. SO THIS IS HIRING A COMPANY TO COME IN. SO WHAT WE WERE PAYING HIM, WE'LL OFFSET SOME OF THAT, BUT THIS IS HIRING, UH, BUREAU VERITAS, WHICH WE'VE WORKED WITH BEFORE TO COME IN AND FILL IN. IS THAT CORRECT? SO WILL WE BE DOING SOME KIND OF TRAINING WITH THEM ABOUT DOING THINGS THE ADDISON WAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST WITH BUREAU VERITAS. UM, BUT THEY, THEY KNOW OF OUR HIGH EXPECTATIONS. THEY KNOW WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE AS FAR AS CUSTOMER SERVICE, AND IT WILL BE USED JUST AS A, AS A FILL IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE USE THE OTHER POSITION. BUT YES, THEY'RE WELL AWARE OF OUR EXPECT YOU HAVE A FILL IN THOUGH. YOU GET FILL IN, AND SO WE TRY TO KEEP THE SAME, AT LEAST YOU TO COME IN SO THAT THEY KNOW OUR STANDARDS AND EVERYTHING. YES. SO THAT'S A PART-TIME POSITION. IS IT HALFTIME OR QUARTER TIME? IT WAS A HALFTIME POSITION. UM, AND THEN BASICALLY [01:00:01] WE'RE GOING TO USE THEM THE EQUIVALENT OF ABOUT HALFTIME. YEAH. OKAY. SO IN THE, UM, ORIGINAL BUDGET PACKET THAT WE GOT, I SEEM TO REMEMBER THAT THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES POSITION WAS NOT LISTED AS A RECURRING COST AS LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION. THERE IS A PORTION OF THAT THAT IS ONE TIME THAT YOU'LL SEE IT IN, IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT WAS ALWAYS SHOWING THE FULL SALARY AS RECURRING. YEAH, THE, THE PERSONNEL COST IS RECURRING, AND THEN THERE'S, THERE'S A PORTION OF IT FOR SOFTWARE, THAT TYPE OF THING THAT WE PAY OUT OF THE SELF-FUNDED FUND. UH, THE ONE-TIME ITEMS, YOU SAID THERE WERE TWO THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA, RIGHT, SO I WAS, I'M GONNA ASK KADE TO COME UP JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A GENERAL SERVICES, UM, UH, PRESENTATION JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE FACILITY ATTENDANCE. SORRY. GOOD. A EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UH, WITH REGARD TO, UH, 1.5 FACILITY ATTENDANT POSITION, UH, WHEN I, UH, GOT THE PRIVILEGE OF OVERSEEING THE OPERATION OF THE GENERAL SERVICES, UH, WE STARTED OPENING THE CONFERENCE CENTER. AND, UH, UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MOVED THREE DEPARTMENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, UH, SPECIAL EVENT. AND ALSO, AS YOU ARE ATTENDING EVERY OTHER WEEK, UH, WE BROUGHT THE CHAMBER HERE. AND DUE TO THAT, I REQUESTED, UH, UH, DAY READ THAT, UH, WE DO SOME KIND OF PILOT PROJECT BY BRINGING TWO TEMP, UH, TO THE CONFERENCE CENTER TO KIND OF EVALUATE WHAT KIND OF NEED WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE OPEN UP THE CONFERENCE CENTER, NOT ONLY FOR THE, UH, UH, COUNCIL AND P AND Z MEETING, WE ALSO ALLOW THE REST OF THE STAFF TO USE THIS FACILITY FOR THE TRAINING PURPOSES AND ET CETERA. AND THE LATEST, UH, UM, UH, OFFERING THAT WE HAVE, UH, APPROVED WAS, UH, UH, METRO CHAMBER OF, UH, COMMERCE. THEY WANNA HAVE THEIR MEETING HERE FOR THAT REASON. UH, WE SEE THE NEEDS TO HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFF, AND INITIALLY WE WERE ASKING FOR TWO, BUT WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF JUST HAVING 1.5 BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A 0.5 AT THE THEATER THAT HELPING JACK, UH, WITH THAT, WITH THAT OPERATION. BUT YOU'RE GONNA, UH, UH, PUSH THAT TO THE FULL TIME AND JUST HIRE ONE ADDITIONAL STAFF FOR THE CONFERENCE CENTER. GREAT. THANK YOU. WELL SAID, . OKAY. SO IN TOTAL FOR THE GENERAL FUND, THE PROPOSED, UH, TOTAL OF THE, UH, DECISION PACKAGE THEY'RE IN, THEIR PROPOSED BUDGET IS, UH, JUST OVER OR JUST UNDER $632,000. UH, SO THERE ARE SOME, UH, DECISION PACKAGES THAT, UH, DID NOT MAKE IT INTO THE PROPOSED BUDGET, BUT, UM, UH, THE CITY MANAGER WISHED TO, UH, MAKE COUNCIL AWARE OF, AND WE PRIORITIZE THESE ITEMS, UM, BASED ON, UM, UH, WHAT, WHAT STAFF AND THE CITY MANAGER THOUGHT WAS, UH, THE, THE MOST APPROPRIATE AND THE MOST NEEDED. UM, SO I'M GONNA GO OVER THESE AND I KNOW THAT KEN IS GONNA DO A PRESENTATION HERE ON THE EIGHTH. UM, SO I, I, I CAN SPEAK. OKAY. SO, UM, WE, WE HAD A NUMBER OF DECISION PACKAGES FROM THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION OF ALL THE NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE. I THINK THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU SAW PREVIOUSLY ARE, ARE REALLY THE FOCUS THAT WE WANTED IN THIS BUDGET, ALONG WITH THE COMPENSATION. AND THEN OF ALL THOSE DECISION PACKAGES, THESE ARE, THESE ARE KIND OF THE NEXT ONES THAT WE WOULD FOCUS ON. SO I'LL JUST LET YOU KNOW WHY, UM, THEY'RE RANKED THE WAY THEY ARE, UM, AND, AND WHY THEY'RE NOT IN THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW, BUT WHY THEY DO HAVE A BIG PRIORITY MOVING FORWARD. THE LANDSCAPE, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT POSITION. AND CERTAINLY, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN, IN SPECIFIC, YOU COULD ASK, UH, JANA ON THE POSITION, BUT THAT, THAT POSITION WOULD, WOULD REALLY ALLEVIATE, UM, SOME OF THE WORKLOAD THAT IS ON JANA AND ON JOE AND ON ON, ON JOE RIGHT NOW. AND THAT THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY DO TO HAVE SOMEONE COME IN ON C I P PROJECTS TO LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPING, UNDERSTANDING THE HIGH STANDARD THAT WE HAVE TO HELP WITH A NUMBER OF, UM, FUNCTIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. I DO THINK THAT IS A, A, A POSITION THAT IS WORTHWHILE AND THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE. JUST DIDN'T QUITE, WE JUST DIDN'T QUITE HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO IT RIGHT NOW. THE REST OF THOSE POSITIONS, UM, ARE, ARE ALL TIED TOGETHER. THEY'RE TIED TO CREATING A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES PROGRAM, AN APARTMENT OUTREACH PROGRAM. SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD OVER THE PAST YEAR, I, I, WE WANT TO CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BUT REALLY WE'RE JUST TAKING A PHASED APPROACH OF GETTING THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IN GEAR TO OVERSEE CODE AND APARTMENTS AND THOSE PIECES TO START SETTING UP A PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THESE POSITIONS POSSIBLY PHASED IN OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS INSTEAD OF DOING IT ALL AT ONCE. SO THAT'S REALLY A, UM, LET'S GET [01:05:01] SOMEONE IN AND START THAT PROGRAM AS OPPOSED TO DOING IT ALL. NOW, IF YOU SAY YOU'RE WILLING TO GO ABOVE THE TAX RATE AND, AND START IT ALL NOW, WE CERTAINLY WOULD, WOULD GO FULL STEAM AHEAD, BUT THAT WAS THE APPROACH THAT WE TOOK IN THE BUDGET. OKAY. AND, UH, JUST TO NOTE THAT, UH, NOTED AT THE BOTTOM HERE, ONE PENNY ADDED TO THE TOTAL TAX RATE WOULD GENERATE ABOUT $594,000, UH, TO THE GENERAL FUND. SO, UH, THAT PUTS A, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF PERSPECTIVE ON, ON, UH, THOSE COSTS AND, AND HOW IT APPLIES TO THE TAX RATE. UH, THEN MOVING ON TO DECISION PACKAGES RELATED TO THE SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND. AND, UH, AGAIN, THE SELF-FUNDED SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND IS FUNDED BY BASICALLY SAVINGS, UH, OPERATIONALLY FROM THE GENERAL FUND OR EXCESS REVENUE THAT, UH, IS TRANSFERRED AT YEAR END AS PART OF THE, UH, END OF YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT. UM, SO, UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, THE, UH, FUND BALANCE OF THIS FUND IS APPROXIMATELY $4.5 MILLION, UH, PROJECTED AT THE END OF, UH, FISCAL YEAR 23. UM, SO, SO THESE WOULD COME FROM THAT FUND BALANCE, UM, WITHOUT THE OR OR WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT HOPEFULLY THERE'S SOME POSITIVE BUDGET VARIANCES THAT ARE TRANSFERRED AT THE END OF THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, AND WE CONTINUE THAT, THAT PRACTICE. UH, SO WITHIN, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THERE IS THE ONE-TIME COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR POSITION. UH, THERE ARE THE ONE-TIME COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE, UH, A E D, UH, PURCHASES. UH, THEN THERE ARE TWO FIRE ADMINISTRATION VEHICLES, UH, PROPOSED, UH, IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THERE ARE ONE-TIME COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES POSITION, UH, IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND, UH, AND EACH DEPARTMENT, AGAIN, WE'LL GO OVER THESE IN MORE DETAIL, UH, AS THEY DO THEIR PRESENTATIONS. UH, THERE'S PLANNED, UH, PARKS PLANNED ASSET REPLACEMENT, UH, THE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK VISION PLAN, UH, A POTENTIAL, UH, UH, PICKLEBALL, CO PICKLEBALL COURT SHADE STRUCTURE, UH, THE ONE-TIME COST ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, REPLACING SPROLE DOG PARK, UH, UH, TURF, UH, NATURAL TURF WITH ARTIFICIAL TURF, UH, AND THEN PUBLIC ART INSTALLATION, UH, THEN ALSO IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, UH, IN N T T A, UH, PEDESTRIAN CROSS CROSSING, GATEWAY AND LANDSCAPING, UH, PLAN. UH, AND THEN IN THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT, A RECREATION VAN, UH, ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AND THEN ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB, OUTDOOR POOL RENOVATION. UH, SO IN TOTAL, THE, UH, PROPOSED ONE-TIME COST ASSOCIATED, UH, WITH, UH, THE SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND IS, UH, $1,866,000. AND THEN MOVING ON TO DECISION PACKAGES THAT ARE PROPOSED OUT OF THE STREET, SELF-FUNDED, UH, SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND. AND THIS FUND GETS ITS REVENUE. UH, IT WAS ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH THE, UH, TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND, AND SINCE THEN, IT'S REALLY GOTTEN ITS REVENUE FROM ONE TIME REIMBURSEMENTS, UM, THAT TYPE OF THING. UH, WHEN WE'VE GOTTEN A REIMBURSEMENT FROM, SAY, DALLAS COUNTY OR RELATED TO A COST SHARING AGREEMENT THAT'S GONE INTO THIS FUND, UH, WE'VE GOTTEN REIMBURSEMENTS FROM U D R RELATED TO OUR COST SHARING AGREEMENTS, UH, THAT'S GONE INTO THIS FUND TO, UH, FUND FUTURE FUTURE, UH, PROJECTS. UH, SO THERE IS TWO PROJECTS PROPOSED, A PAVER REPLACEMENT ON ARAPAHOE AND A BRICK PAVER, UH, REPAIR IN THE VITRUVIAN AREA. AND THEN WE HAVE DECISION PACKAGES FOR OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS. UH, IN THE AIRPORT FUND, THEY HAVE PROPOSED, UH, AN AIR, UH, AN INSURANCE ADMINISTRATIVE PROGRAM, UH, WHICH IS A RECURRING COST. UH, THE STORMWATER FUND, UH, THERE IS A PROPOSED ASPHALT TRAILER, AND THEN ALSO, UH, HUTTON BRANCH OUTFALL RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, UH, ONE-TIME COST, AND THEN A RECURRING COST OF, UH, 450,000 FOR AN ANNUAL STORMWATER PLANNED MAINTENANCE, UM, IN THE STORMWATER FUND. UH, THEN WE HAVE A STREET SWEEPER, UH, AND A STREET MAINTENANCE WORKER POSITION TO OPERATE THAT STREET SWEEPER, UH, IN THE STORMWATER FUND. AND THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD REPLACE A CONTRACTOR AND A CONTRACT SERVICE THAT THE TOWN HAS. UH, SAME THING FOR THE G I S ANALYST POSITION. AND THIS ONE IS SPLIT BETWEEN, UH, THE STORMWATER FUND AND THE UTILITY FUND. WE CURRENTLY, UH, PAY FOR, UH, OUTSOURCING OF THAT SERVICE. UH, SO BRINGING THAT IN-HOUSE WITH AN IN-HOUSE GI G I S ANALYST THAT WOULD ACTUALLY SAVE THE TOWN A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY. UH, THEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC WORK SUPERINTENDENT POSITION PROPOSED, UH, IN THE STORMWATER FUND AS WELL. UH, THEN IN THE UTILITY FUND, AS I MENTIONED, THE OTHER HALF OF THAT G I S ANALYST POSITION, UH, WE HAVE A NEW UTILITY BILLING CUSTOMER PORTAL PROPOSED, UH, CONTRACTED UTILITY REPAIRS, UH, RECURRING COST PROPOSED, AND THEN ONE TIME COST RELATED TO, UH, KELWAY WET WELL STRUCTURAL INSPECTION AND SOME NON-DESTRUCTIVE TESTING OF A 24 INCH, UH, WATER MAIN. [01:10:01] SO IN TOTAL, FOR ALL OF THOSE, UH, ENTERPRISE FUNDS, UH, RECURRING COST, ABOUT 931,000, UH, ONE-TIME COST, UH, 1.237 MILLION, UH, SOME, SOME REVENUE AND COST OFFSET OF ABOUT 200,000. SO A NET COST OF, UH, 1,000,960, UH, 3000. AND THEN NOW WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATION. SO I'M GONNA HAND SOME OF THOSE ITEMS YES. ON THE DECISION PACKAGES. THAT'S A LOT TO TAKE IN. UM, AND MAYOR, IF YOU COULD, UH, SO ALL THE UTILITY ONE PARTS ONES THAT HE WAS JUST DOING AN OVERVIEW, SO AS THE DIRECTORS COME UP, THEY'RE GONNA PRESENT. SO THERE'S ANY IN THAT . OKAY. YEAH, WE MOVE ON THIS. OKAY. SO WILL THE AIRPORT, UH, BE PRESENTING FOR THE AIRPORT IN INSURANCE ADMINISTRATIVE PROGRAM? YES. OKAY. MM-HMM. , THEY WILL. SO I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO SHANNON, SIR. MEETING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SHANNON HICKS, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING SERVICES. I'M GONNA, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT TO GO THROUGH TONIGHT. I'LL TRY TO BE QUICK, BUT ALSO GIVE YOU ENOUGH DETAIL. SO IF I'M GOING TOO FAST OR TOO SLOW, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. , I WON'T REPEAT WHAT THE LAST UPDATE THOUGH, . SO, UH, THE PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS THREE BUDGET, UH, DIVISIONS. AND WE'LL START WITH THE UTILITY DIVISION. AND SOME OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS LAST YEAR IS WE COMPLETED THE DESIGN OF LAKE FOREST DRIVE WATER AND SEWER PROJECT. WE JUST HAD A MEETING WITH THE CONTRACTOR TODAY. WE'RE SCHEDULING WORK OUT THERE, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING WITH THOSE RESIDENTS IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT WORK BEING COMPLETED. THIS CALENDAR YEAR, WE BEGAN OUR C I P VALIDATION PROJECT FOR OUR UTILITY. C I P IF YOU RECALL, WE WANTED TO GO THROUGH AND RE-LOOK AT THE WATER AND WASTEWATER MODELS TO DETERMINE WHAT WAS THE OPTIMAL TIMING TO REPLACE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WHAT WE FOUND WHEN WE STARTED GOING THROUGH THE OLD MODELS IS THEY DID NOT MATCH PREDICTIVELY WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY SEEING IN THE FIELD. THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'RE PERFORMING MUCH BETTER THAN THE MODELS PREDICTED. SO INSTEAD OF CONTINUING FORWARD USING THESE OLD MODELS TO DETERMINE WHEN WE NEEDED TO DO THESE PROJECTS, WE HELD THE CON THE ENGINEER UP, AND WE'RE REDOING THOSE MODELS, AND THAT'S GONNA HELP FEED INTO A WATER WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE THAT'LL HELP COINCIDE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE'RE ABLE TO PARLAY THAT WORK TO GO FORWARD AND GET SOME REAL GOOD DATA. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL TELL YOU ABOUT THE UTILITY C I P IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THERE, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF PROJECTS STACKED IN THE LAST YEAR. THOSE ARE PROJECTS WE'RE NOT SURE IF WE'RE REALLY GONNA NEED TO DO, SO WE PUT THEM OUT THERE JUST TO KIND OF KEEP THEM ON THE LIST STILL, BUT WE PUT 'EM OUT THERE ON THAT LAST YEAR. SO, UH, ANTICIPATE SEEING SOME MORE INFORMATION THAT COME UP OVER THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AS WE UPDATE THAT PLAN, WE BEGAN OUR, UH, UH, E P A MANDATED LEAD AND COPPER RULE REVISIONS. THIS IS A RULE THAT KIND OF STEMS FROM THE FLINT, MICHIGAN ISSUE WITH THEIR LEAD IN THEIR WATER. WE'RE HAVING TO GO OUT AND DO INVENTORIES OF ALL OF OUR SERVICE CONNECTIONS TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY POTENTIALS FOR, UH, LEAD CONTAMINATION. UH, WE FINISHED THE DESIGN, BEGAN CONSTRUCTION OF THE SURVEYOR PUMP STATION, ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENTS WE BEGAN, BUT THERE'S LONG LEAD TIMES ON THOSE ITEMS, SO WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR IT TO COME IN. UH, THE NON-DESTRUCTIVE TESTING OF THE WATER MAIN ALONG THE REDDING TRAIL FROM BELTLINE TO GEORGE BUSH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT, UH, JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE. AND ADDISON IS UNIQUE, SO ARE OUR WATER LINES. WE FOUND IT WAS AN ODD, UH, DIAMETER IN THERE, SO WE HAD TO HAVE A SPECIAL FITTING MADE SO WE COULD GET THE TEST EQUIPMENT IN THERE. BUT THAT'S MOVING FORWARD. PRELIMINARY RESULTS ARE VERY POSITIVE. UH, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE, WE WERE TOLD IT'S AVERAGE FOR NEW, WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD CONDITION FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS INSTALLED IN THE SEVENTIES, SO THAT'S GOOD. AND WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED NEW WATER QUALITY ANALYZERS ON OUR SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WATER WE'RE PUTTING ON THE SYSTEM MEETS ALL THE RULES AND, UH, IT'S HIGH QUALITY. SO OUR OBJECTIVES FOR NEXT YEAR IS WE WANT TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION OF, UH, LAKE FOREST DRIVE WATER AND SEWER IMPROVEMENTS. I WANNA CONTINUE OUR MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS ON OUR SYSTEM, UH, REHABILITATION OF OUR LINES AND MANHOLES, UH, INSPECTING ALL OF OUR FIRE HYDRANTS EVERY YEAR, UH, AND TRYING TO, UH, GET MORE OF OUR VALVES EXERCISED AS WELL. SO, MOVING INTO OUR DECISION PACKAGES, OUR FIRST ONE IS THE CONTRACTED UTILITY REPAIRS. THIS IS A PROGRAM WE'RE IN OUR SECOND YEAR OF DOING THIS. WHEN WE FIRST INITIATED THIS PROGRAM, WE ESTIMATED OUR COSTS WERE GONNA BE ABOUT $250,000 A YEAR. AND IN THAT FIRST BUDGET YEAR, WHICH IS THE YEAR BEFORE THIS ONE, WE WERE ASKED TO ONLY INCLUDE 150,000 IN THE BUDGET UNTIL WE COULD FIND KIND OF WHERE OUR COSTS WERE GONNA FALL IN. AND WE'RE FALLING IN RIGHT AT $250,000 A YEAR WHERE WE ESTIMATED LAST YEAR WE SPENT APPROXIMATELY THAT MUCH. WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA SPEND THIS MUCH, UH, ON THIS, THIS YEAR. YOU'RE GONNA SEE A CHANGE ORDER TO THE RAYMAR CONTRACT FOR THIS COMING BEFORE COUNCIL IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS TO ADD THAT AMOUNT BACK IN THERE. SO THIS IS RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHERE WE ARE ESTIMATING [01:15:01] IT TO BE AND WHAT WE HAVE BUILT INTO THE RATE MODEL, A KWAY WET WELL STRUCTURAL INSPECTION. WE JUST COMPLETED THE KWAY BYPASS PROJECT THAT ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND INSPECT THE WET, WELL, THE WET WELL'S WHERE ALL THE WATER COMES IN AND SITS BEFORE WE PUMP IT INTO THE FORCE MAIN. THERE'S A LOT OF CORROSIVE GASES IN THERE. WE NEED TO GET IN AND MAKE STRUCTURAL INSPECTIONS. AND FROM THIS INSPECTION WILL PROBABLY LEAD A NEW PROJECT IF WE NEED TO DO REHAB ON THAT PROJECT. THAT'S A ONE-TIME COST OF $55,000. UH, NON-DESTRUCTIVE TESTING OF THE 24 INCH WATER TRANSMISSION MAIN. WE HAVE A MAIN CONNECTION BETWEEN THE CELESTIAL PUMP STATION TO THE WATER TOWER RIGHT HERE. AND IT'S 36 INCH BAR WRAP PIPE TRANSITIONING TO A 24 INCH AND HAPPENS TO LIE RIGHT UNDER QUORUM WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE REPLACING IT. SO WE WANT TO GET IN THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT WATER LINE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY DEFICIENCIES NOW, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE REPAIRS TO THEM DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF QUORUM. WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY ISSUES WITH THE WATERLINE RIGHT NOW, BUT WHAT I WOULD HATE TO HAVE HAPPEN IS WE SPEND 26 SOME ODD MILLION DOLLARS REDOING QUORUM. IT'S BEAUTIFUL, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'VE GOTTA GO THROUGH AND DO A BUNCH OF REPAIRS ON A PIPE. SO WE'RE CONTRACTING WITH A COMPANY TO COME OUT AND BE ABLE TO DO SOME TESTING OF THIS LINE, RUN PROBES THROUGH IT, AND TELL US IF WE HAVE ANY MICRO LEAKS. THAT'S WHERE YOU GENERALLY END UP HAVING YOUR BIG PROBLEMS. AND FROM THERE, WE WILL ADD THAT TO OUR CONTRACT IF WE NEED TO. UM, FOR THE QUORUM PROJECT. DO WE HAVE ANY INDICATIONS THAT THERE'S CHALLENGE THERE ANYWHERE ALONG THERE? NO, SIR. NOT YET. BUT WE WANT TO GET IN THERE AND BE PROACTIVE. I LOVE YOU'RE BEING PROACTIVE. THANK YOU. WELL, I DON'T WANNA STAND UP HERE AND TELL YOU GOTTA RIP THE ROAD UP. SHANNON. WOULD THAT BE A MAJOR UNDERTAKING WHEN WE, WHEN WE REPLACE QUORUM TO INSTALL NEW PIPING? YES. IT WOULD BE A MASSIVE PROJECT TO DO THAT. UH, THE BAR WRAP PIPE WILL HAVE A LIFE EXPECTANCY ABOUT A HUNDRED YEARS. WOW. AND IT'S ABOUT 40 YEARS OLD RIGHT NOW, SO I, I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY WORTH US SPENDING ANOTHER $20 MILLION PROBABLY TO REPLACE THAT WATERLINE IF WE DON'T HAVE TO. BUT WE MAY HAVE TO GO IN AND DO SOME SPOT REPAIRS. WHAT'S THE WORD THAT YOU'RE USING TO DESCRIBE THE PIPE BAR? BAR WRAPPED? PIPE BAR WRAPPED BAR, SORRY, BAR, BAR, BAR WRAPPED PIPE. YEAH. THANK YOU. IT'S A, IT'S A TYPE OF PIPE THAT'S A GOT BAR WRAPPED WITH CONCRETE AROUND IT. IT'S A SPECIAL TYPE OF HIGH PRESSURE RATED PIPE. OKAY, THANK YOU. SURE. SO THAT IS ALL THE DECISION PACKAGES IN THE UTILITY FUND. UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE? UM, IF WE CAN HOLD 'EM TILL THE END. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE, UM, SANITARY SEWER EVALUATION AND STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM ASSESSMENT. IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO WHEN YOU SAID MODELS? WHICH ONE IS THAT? SIR? YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE MODELS THAT YOU'RE DEVELOPING, SO THE C I P VALIDATION FOR ALL THE UPCOMING UTILITY PROJECTS. RIGHT. SO WHAT WE WERE DOING WITH THIS IS WE HAVE A C I P, UM, THAT'S BASED REALLY ON TWO CRITERIA FOR OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER. IT, ONE IS THE AGE WE, WE NEED TO REPLACE IT 'CAUSE HOW OLD IT IS. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING OUT AND DOING THE NON-DESTRUCTIVE TESTING ON SOME OF THE LINES TO SEE IF WE REALLY DO NEED TO REPLACE THEM. AND THE OTHER IS CAPACITY PRESSURE FLOWS. UH, THEY WERE PREDICTED THAT WE WERE GONNA NEED TO DO THAT, AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS GO OUT THERE AND USE THE EXISTING MODELS AND PROJECTED DENSITIES TO DETERMINE WHEN WE REALLY THINK WE MIGHT NEED TO DO IT. BUT WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING BACK AT THE MODELS THAT WE WERE USING, WHICH WERE PERFORMED PROBABLY IN 2015 FOR OUR 2016, UM, PROGRAM, THEY WEREN'T MATCHING REAL LIFE IN THE FIELD. WE WERE PERFORMING MUCH BETTER. SO THAT MAKES US SUSPECT THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY STILL VALID TODAY. SO IN 2017, WE HAD SANITARY SEWER EVALUATION THAT'S CORRECT. PERFORMED AND A STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM ASSESSMENT? THAT'S CORRECT. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WATER. OKAY. THAT'S THE ONE WE WERE REALLY LOOKING AT. OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S NEITHER OF THESE TWO THAT I JUST SENT? NO, SIR. WE ARE GONNA UPDATE THE WATER AND WASTEWATER TOGETHER. THEY WERE DONE AS TWO SEPARATE STUDIES, BUT THEY NEED TO BE DONE TOGETHER, IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE DOING A PROJECT, IF YOU HAVE A WATER PROJECT AND A WASTEWATER PROJECT THAT NEED TO BE DONE, YOU NEED TO PROBABLY DO THEM AT THE SAME TIME. IF THEY'RE ON THE SAME STREET, YOU DON'T WANNA COME BACK AND DO THEM AT DIFFERENT TIMES. SO WE'RE GONNA DO UPDATE BOTH OF THEM WHILE WE'RE THERE AND THEY'LL BE GOING IN PARALLEL AND THEY'LL TIE INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE BECAUSE THAT'LL SPEAK TO THE PROJECTED DENSITIES AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS THAT ARE GONNA OCCUR. SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU REMIND US, UH, ABOUT THE CHALLENGES WITH THE EXCESSIVE, UH, ALLOWABLE VELOCITIES? EXCESSIVE WHAT ALLOWABLE VELOCITIES IN THE PIPE, WHAT THAT SO CAN CAUSE, WHAT KIND OF CHALLENGES THAT CAN CAUSE? SO, SURE. UM, SCOURING IS THE BIGGEST. SO WHAT WHAT CAN HAPPEN IS YOU, YOU HAVE TOO MUCH WATER GOING THROUGH TOO SMALL OF A PIPE. YOU'RE GONNA GET HIGH VELOCITIES GOING THROUGH THERE AND IT CAN CAUSE SCOURING IS [01:20:01] A BIG PART OF IT, EROSION OF THE PIPE. AND SO EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY BE GETTING DECENT FLOW OR PRESSURES, IF THE PIPE SIZE IS TOO SMALL, UH, YOU CAN HAVE TOO HIGH VELOCITIES GOING THROUGH THAT PIPE. SO IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU PRESSURE WASHING YOUR DRIVEWAY AND YOU USE THE WRONG NOZZLE AND YOU, YOU KNOCK SOME OF THE CONCRETE OFF. THAT CAN HAPPEN IN SOME OF THESE PIPES TOO, ON THE INSIDE. UM, YOU CAN ALSO GET WATER HAMMER AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS IN YOUR SYSTEM TOO. SO, SO ON YOUR CONTRACTED UTILITY REPAIRS ON SLIDE 30, YOU'RE, SO YOU SAID YOU STARTED OUT AT A HUNDRED AND THEN LAST YEAR YOU WENT AT 150. SO THIS IS THE ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED TO GET TO TWO 50. SO WHEN WE FIRST PROPOSED THIS, WE ESTIMATED THE COST TO BE $250,000 A YEAR. WE WERE ASKED TO ONLY BUDGET ONE 50. SO IT'S, THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR IT'S BEEN BUDGETED AS ONE 50. WE WANT TO BRING IT UP TO WHERE WE, WE ARE AVERAGING RIGHT NOW. SO IT'D BE TWO 50. THAT'S WHAT THAT DIFFERENCE IS. YES, SIR. OKAY. SO STORMWATER DIVISION, UM, SOME OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS IS WE PARTNER WITH, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO HOST THE EARTH DAY AND SUSTAINABILITY DAY. THOSE EVENTS ARE GETTING BIGGER AND EVERY YEAR, UH, WE REALLY ENJOY DOING THEM AND, AND GETTING THE WORD OUT TO THE PUBLIC CLEARED DEBRIS FROM A LOT OF OUR INLETS. UH, WE BEGAN CONSTRUCTION OF THE RAW HIDE BASIN IMPROVEMENTS, PROJECT PROJECT'S GOING ALONG WELL. UH, THE ONLY THING LEFT ON THAT PROJECT IS THE UNDERGROUND DETENTION SYSTEM. CONTRACTORS STILL TRYING TO SCHEDULE THAT, THAT SYSTEM TO BE, UH, DELIVERED. IT'S A VERY COMPLEX WAY TO GET INSTALLED, BUT GOOD NEWS, WHEN IT GETS HERE, IT'LL BE DONE REALLY QUICKLY. IT ONLY TAKES A COUPLE DAYS TO SET IT. UH, WE BEGAN CONSTRUCTION OF THE, AND COMPLETED THE, UH, WYNWOOD BRIDGE ARMORING PROJECT. THAT WAS A REALLY COMPLEX PROJECT. THAT'S THE PICTURE OF IT RIGHT THERE. WE WERE HAVING SOME SCOURING AND EROSION ON THE, UH, OUTFALL OF THAT BRIDGE. AND WE BEGAN, UH, THE REPLACEMENT OF THE VITRUVIAN PUMPS. SO THAT PROJECT IS WRAPPING UP RIGHT NOW TOO. SO OUR OBJECTIVES FOR NEXT YEAR IS WE WANNA CONTINUE OUR INLET CLEANING PROGRAM. WE WANNA COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE RAW HIGH BASIN IMPROVEMENTS. WE, IT'S ESTIMATING MID-OCTOBER WE SHOULD BE THERE, IMPLEMENT A MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR ALL OF OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM. THAT'S A, THE DECISION PACKAGE THAT YOU'LL SEE COMING FORWARD. UH, WE WANT TO CONTINUE OUR SUCCESSFUL EVENTS AND WE ALL NEED TO UPDATE OUR POST-CONSTRUCTION BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES ORDINANCE. IT'S A REQUIREMENT AS PART OF OUR PERMIT TO MANDATE CERTAIN TREATMENT PROCESSES FOR STORM WATER FACILITIES THAT WOULD NEED THAT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY IN TOWN, SO WE'RE TRYING TO CUSTOMIZE THIS ORDINANCE SO IT'S NOT, UH, ONEROUS TO OUR BUSINESSES, BUT IT STILL, UH, MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW. ONE. YES, SIR. EXCUSE ME. UH, 34. ONE SECOND, SIR. CAN YOU, CAN YOU GIVE US A, A BRIEF STATUS ON THE, UH, RAW HEIGHT BASIN IMPROVEMENTS COMPLETION? THE PROJECT IS WRAPPING UP. WELL, THE ONLY MAJOR THING LEFT IS THE STORM TRAP SYSTEM. THAT'S THE BIG HOLE THAT YOU'LL SEE OUT ON MARSH. UM, THE CONTRACTOR IS TRYING TO SCHEDULE THE DELIVERY OF THAT SYSTEM AND YOU HAVE TO INSTALL IT AS YOU REMOVE IT OFF THE TRUCK. SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE BIG CRANES OUT THERE THAT ARE GOING OVER THE TOP OF THE TREES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO THAT'S A KIND OF A COMPLICATED LOGISTICS THING. WE ANTICIPATE EVERYTHING BEING WRAPPED UP BY MID-OCTOBER ON THAT PROJECT. SO ALL THE WORK INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS DONE. WE STILL HAVE SOME WORK ON THE TRAIL CONNECTOR, UH, RIGHT THERE OFF OF, DO YOU KNOW THE NAME OF THAT STREET? I'M, I'M LIKE, WE, THE CONTRACTOR WAS DOING THE LANDSCAPE WORK OUT THERE AND THEN WE GOT ALL THESE 108 DEGREE DAYS AND PLANTS STARTED DYING. SO HE'S GOT THE IRRIGATION TURNED UP TO NOAH AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING ALIVE THERE. AND THAT MAY LAG A LITTLE BIT TILL THE WEATHER COOLS OFF, BUT THEY'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB. THEY'VE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE PROJECT HAS GONE FAIRLY WELL FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD AND RESPONSES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. CAN YOU TELL US, I, I KNOW IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE EARLY TO BE LOOKING BACK, BUT CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT OF PERHAPS A LESSON LEARNED ON THIS PROJECT? OH, WOW. UM, DON'T TOUCH RESIDENCE DRIVEWAYS. OKAY. NO, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THIS PROJECT'S GONE PRETTY WELL. UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD CONTRACTOR AND I THINK IF THERE'S A LESSON TO BE TAKEN FROM THAT IS WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET THE REALLY GOOD CONTRACTORS, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE PROJECTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT'S MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD. UH, THIS IS TEXAS STANDARD CONSTRUCTION AND THEY'VE GOT PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE NEIGHBORS KNOW THEM BY NAME AND I GET COMPLIMENTS ON THIS CONTRACTOR ALL THE TIME. AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I DON'T, THAT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN. SO CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE CHALLENGES THAT WERE CAUSED BY SHALLOW PIPE THAT WE CUT INTO? UH, OH, THE GAS [01:25:01] LINES. WE GOT A LITTLE, WE, WHETHER THEY, WHATEVER THE LINE IS. YEAH. WE, WE KNOW WE'RE AT MRS. GAS LINES NOW BETTER THAN THEY DO . UH, WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE BROKEN A FEW GAS LINES OUT THERE, JUST SAW CUTTING PAVEMENT. THAT'S HOW SHALLOW THEY WERE. SO, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE ON MIDWAY AND OUT THERE, WE, WE CAN FIND THEM PRETTY WELL. SO YEAH. THAT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE. IT IS. WE, WE IT 40 YEARS, 40 YEARS PLUS, RIGHT? YEAH. THE, THE ISSUE OUT THERE IS THAT THE, THE ROCK IS PRETTY SHALLOW, SO FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE PAVEMENT TO THE TOP OF THE ROCK IS TWO TO THREE FEET. SO EVERYBODY IS FIGHTING TO BE IN THERE. SO IF WE'RE NOT THERE WATCHING THEM PUT THE PIPE IN, YOU CAN'T TELL AFTERWARDS HOW DEEP IT IS. SO THEY'RE ALL RIGHT IN THERE. 'CAUSE THAT'S THE QUICKEST WAY FOR 'EM TO PUT IT IN. SURE. THANK YOU. SURE. I'M, SO ON OUR DECISION PACKAGES, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'D REALLY LIKE TO DO IS BUY A DEDICATED ASPHALT TRAILER. UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY USING, IT MIGHT BE THIS TRAILER HERE, IT'S A HAND-ME-DOWN FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND IT'S REALLY TOUGH FOR OUR GUYS TO GO OUT THERE AND PATCH POTHOLES. NOW, WE DON'T DO THE BIG PANEL REPLACEMENTS IN-HOUSE, BUT OUR GUYS ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR GOING OUT AND BEING PROACTIVE AND HITTING THOSE POTHOLES, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP THE ROAD SAFE TILL WE CAN GET THEM OUT THERE. AND WE USE WHAT'S CALLED COLD MIX. MOST OF THE TIME IT COMES IN BAGS AND IT'S KIND OF REALLY THICK AND VISCOUS AND YOU CAN'T USE IT IN THE WINTER BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A ROCK. THIS TRAILER WOULD ALLOW IT TO BE HEATED. WE'D BE ABLE TO TRAVEL IT OUT, BRING IT ON SITE, DUMP IT. I THINK IT'D BE A LOT BETTER, UM, PRODUCT IN THE END. AND IT'D BE A LOT MORE EFFICIENT FOR OUR GUYS. IT'S A 70 SPEED SPEED OF APPLICATION, UH, MUCH QUICKER. IT'S A ONE TIME $75,000 COST. THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE WOULD BE MINIMAL FOR THIS. THE, THE NEXT DECISION PACKAGE IS THE HUTTON BRANCH OUTFALL RECONSTRUCTION. I HAD TO ASK FOR HUTT AND BRANCH WAS MYSELF, BUT THIS IS THE, THIS IS A DITCH RIGHT NEXT TO MIDWAY NORTH OF, UH, CAL. SO IT'S NOT IN THE MIDWAY ROAD PROJECT. THIS IS THE OUTFALL FROM THE AIRPORT. IT COMES AROUND AND TURNS AND PARALLELS, UH, MIDWAY ROAD. AND WE'VE NOTICED SOME ISSUES OUT THERE. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF BUSHES, BUT THERE'S SOME CONCRETE ISSUES. WE CONTRACTED THIS PAST YEAR WITH GARVER. THEY, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DID THE WYNWOOD BRIDGE ARMORING PROJECT FOR US. THEY DID OUT, CAME OUT, DID AN ASSESSMENT FOR US. IT WAS QUICKER. SO WE'VE MOVED THEM RIGHT INTO THE DESIGN. WE'RE AT ABOUT 60% DESIGN RIGHT NOW TO GO OUT AND DO THE STRUCTURAL REPAIRS FOR THIS. IT'S CURRENTLY A CONCRETE LINE DITCH. WE'RE GONNA END UP STAYING THAT WAY. IF WE GO BACK WITH GRASS, IT CHANGES THE COEFFICIENT OF FRICTION THROUGH THERE. SO ALL THE HYDRAULICS ARE OUT. SO WE NEED TO GO BACK WITH WHAT IT'S, WHAT IS THERE, AND WE'LL END UP CLEANING IT UP AND MAKING IT EASIER TO MAINTAIN TOO. THAT'S A $755,000 ONE-TIME COST. WELL, AND WHAT'S THE CONDITION IF YOU DID AN ASSET EVALUATION OF IT? WELL, THERE'S CERTAIN PORTIONS OF IT ARE FAILED. REALLY? YES. AND THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. YOU CAN SEE HERE WE HAVE HEAVING ON THE SLOPE PAVING RIGHT THERE. THAT'S OBVIOUS. NOT, NOT GOOD. 'CAUSE YOU'LL END UP GETTING SCOURING UNDERNEATH HERE AND MIDWAY ROAD IS RIGHT HERE. SO WE WANT TO WANT TO GET THAT IF WE CAN. SO AS SOON AS WE CAN. THE NEXT THING IS DECISION PACKAGE IS AN ANNUAL STORMWATER MAINTENANCE PLAN. AND THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT, THAT MY TEAM'S BEEN WORKING ON FOR A WHILE. AND WE WANT TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THESE THINGS LIKE THAT HUTTON BRANCH OUTFALL, THE MAJOR STRUCTURAL FAILURES. AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS TO CLEAN AND INSPECT OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM ON A SIX YEAR ROTATION, IF YOU WILL. WE'LL BREAK IT DOWN ON OUTFALLS. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE BIGGER OUTFALLS WILL BE ON THEIR OWN IN ANY GIVEN FISCAL YEAR. AND WE MIGHT COMBINE TWO WITH A SMALLER ONES. THERE'S TOTAL OF EIGHT OUTFALLS HERE. AND WHAT WE'D DO IS WE'D GO OUT, WE'D TV AND CLEAN ALL OF THE STORM SEWERS, ALL OF THE LATERALS EVERYWHERE IN THESE, IN EACH ONE OF THESE OUTFALLS. AND FROM THERE WE'D MAKE MINOR REPAIRS THAT WE FIND IN THERE, OR THEY MAY LEAD TO BIGGER CAPITAL PROJECTS. GOING THROUGH STORM WATER IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU JUST DON'T KNOW. IT'S BAD UNTIL IT'S BAD BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE YOUR WATER WHEN IT'S NOT ON, YOU KNOW, IT OR THE SANITARY SEWER WHEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, COMING OUT OF THE GROUND. IT'S JUST, YOU DON'T KNOW THIS STUFF IS GOING BAD UNTIL YOU GET A SINK HOLE OR YOU END UP WITH A, A FLOODING AREA OR SOMETHING. SO WE'D REALLY LIKE TO START BEING PROACTIVE AND GETTING OUT THERE, INSPECTING AND CLEANING THESE STORM SEWER SYSTEMS. SO ABOUT A SIX YEAR ROTATION WE THINK WOULD BE GOOD. YES, SIR. SO ARE THE IN, ARE THE ANNUAL INSPECTIONS DONE IN HOUSE OR IS THAT THIRD PARTY? WE WOULD BE CONTRACTING MOST OF THAT OUT. WE WOULD HIRE A COMPANY TO COME OUT AND JET THE LINES AND RUN TV CAMERAS THROUGH THERE AND PROVIDE US WITH INSPECTION REPORTS. OUR STORMWATER DIVISION IS, WE HAVE A MANAGER AND TWO STORMWATER OPERATORS, SO WE JUST WOULD NOT HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO GO OUT AND DO THAT, UM, [01:30:01] THAT SORT OF THING. SO THERE'S SPECIALIZED FIRMS THAT DO THAT KIND OF WORK. SO YOU SAID IT'S A SIX YEAR PROJECT, SO $450,000 A YEAR EVERY YEAR. AND IT'S ONGOING. YEAH. ONCE WE JUST LIKE THE FIRE HYDRANT PAINTING, WHEN WE GET DONE, WE'RE GONNA GO RIGHT BACK TO THE BEGINNING AND START OVER AND KEEP DOING IT. AND SO I THINK BY DOING THIS AND GETTING FORMAL REPORTS AND GETTING OUT AND CLEANING THESE, THESE CHANNELS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE'LL BE ABLE BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE PROBLEMS WHEN THEY'RE SMALL AND THEY'RE EASIER TO FIX. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO GET TO. AND YOU CAME UP WITH THE SIX YEAR, BECAUSE YOU CAN COVER IT ALL IN SIX, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES, MA'AM. THERE'S EIGHT OUTFALLS. AND SO WE KIND OF, IT'S, IT MAKES SENSE TO CONCENTRATE ON AN OUTFALL AT A TIME. A COUPLE OF 'EM ARE SMALL SO THEY CAN BE COMBINED TOGETHER. SOME YEARS IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN THIS, AND SOME YEARS IT'LL BE LESS THAN THIS. BUT ON AVERAGE, WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT AT ABOUT $450,000 A YEAR. OKAY. AND THIS IS FUNDED OUTTA THE STORMWATER FUND. SO, AND SHANNON, IT'S, IT'S PROJECTS LIKE THIS THAT WE, THE REASON THAT WE IMPLEMENTED THE STORMWATER FUND, WHAT IT WAS 10 YEARS AGO OR 10 YEARS AGO OR SOMETHING. YES, SIR. AND, AND WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IS WE'RE GONNA START MAKING A SHIFT FROM DOING MAJOR CAPITAL CAPACITY PROJECTS TO STARTING TO MAINTAIN OUR SYSTEM. YOU KNOW, THE, THE RAWHIDE PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS A CAPACITY ADDED. WE HAD FLOOD POTENTIAL FLOOD PROBLEMS THERE WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF STUDYING, UM, ANOTHER POTENTIAL ONE THAT'S IN OUR ON BELLBROOK. THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A FLOODING ISSUE THERE. UH, WE HAVE A COMPANY COMING OUT DOING SOME FIELD VERIFICATION. WE'RE GONNA TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS, SEE WHAT THEY'VE EXPERIENCED. THERE'S NOT THAT MANY OF THEM, UH, DURING SOME OF THESE HEAVY RAIN EVENTS TO VALIDATE WHETHER WE NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY OUT THERE OR NOT. BUT WE DO NEED TO MAINTAIN OUR SYSTEM. SO IS THAT WHAT HAPPENS UPHILL COMES DOWNHILL IN DALLAS, BASICALLY? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. SO THERE'S NO LIABILITY OF THE TOWN NORTH OF US. IF THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION, WHAT GOES INTO THE DRAIN AND THEY'RE NOT CAPTURING THAT BEFORE IT GOES INTO A RAIN SITUATION COMING RIGHT IN AS, NO, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CROSS POLLINATION AND STORM SYSTEMS. WE TEND TO DO THAT. WE PUT OUR STORM WATER TO OTHER PEOPLE. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THEIR STORM WATER COMING IN. WE'RE KIND OF THE HIGH POINT. SO YEAH. , UH, THE NEXT DECISION PACKAGE, UM, IS A G I S ANALYSIS. THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR WE'VE HAD A CONTRACT, G I SS ANALYSIS. THAT'S GEOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION SYSTEMS. THAT'S OUR MAPPING SYSTEM. AND WHAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS WITH THIS CONTRACT POSITION HAS JUST BEEN OUTSTANDING. WE NOW HAVE ALL OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AS-BUILTS ONLINE. SO MY TEAM, WHEN THEY'RE OUT TROUBLESHOOTING A PROBLEM ON THEIR TABLETS, THEY CAN ACTUALLY PULL UP THE BLUEPRINTS FOR THE WATER LINES FROM 1970 SOMETHING AND BE ABLE TO TELL WHAT'S THERE. ALL OF OUR PLATTS ARE THERE, THEY'RE SUPPORTING KEN'S TEAM ON DOING MAPPING THE ZONING MAPS, ZONING CASES, HAVING ALL OF THAT MAPPED OUT. SO IT'S, IT'S JUST THE BEGINNING OF A LOT OF GREAT STUFF FOR US DEVELOPERS AND RESIDENTS. WE, THEY'VE BEEN, UH, CONTRACTED FOR TWO YEARS. UM, WE DID THAT AS A TRIAL. IS THERE REALLY A NEED FOR THIS POSITION? AND, AND WE'VE JUST LEARNED THAT THERE IS, SO WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND BRING IT IN-HOUSE. UM, IT IS A COST SAVINGS IN GENERAL. SO IT'S ABOUT A $17,000 A YEAR COST SAVING TO BRING THIS POSITION IN-HOUSE. UH, THE NEXT DECISION PACKAGE IS WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DISCUSS BRINGING OUR STREET SWEEPING SERVICES IN-HOUSE. WE'RE CURRENTLY CONTRACTING THAT OUT AT ABOUT $90,000 A YEAR. WE'RE SWEEPING THE NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT ONCE A MONTH, SOME OF OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES EVERY A COUPLE WEEKS. BUT I THINK WE COULD DO BETTER. I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE SEE WHEN THEY COME TO ADDISON IS OUR STREETS. AND, AND THE CLEANER, THE MORE PRISTINE THEY ARE, I THINK THE BETTER IMAGE THAT WE, WE PROJECT, UH, WE, THE COST OF THE SWEEPERS $225,000, WE NEED TO HIRE ANOTHER PERSON TO OPERATE IT. OUR PLAN WOULD BE TO HIRE A DEDICATED OPERATOR. I'VE FOUND IN PAST OPERATIONS, IF YOU HAVE A PERSON DEDICATED THAT EQUIPMENT, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE A REAL, A LOT BETTER CARE OF IT THAN IF YOU HAVE A ROTATING CREW. NOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL HAVE OTHER PEOPLE TRAINED ON HOW TO OPERATE IT FOR WHEN THEY'RE ON VACATION AND THAT SORT OF THINGS, BUT IT GIVES US A LOT OF CAPABILITIES. IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE SOMEWHERE, WE CAN GO TAKE CARE OF IT. IF THERE'S A WRECK AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF GLASS OUT THERE, PD, FIRE, CALL US NEXT DAY, WE CAN GO OUT THERE AND SWEEP IT UP, TAKE CARE OF IT. AFTER OUR ICE EVENTS, WHICH WE SEEM TO BE HAVING MORE, MORE FREQUENTLY, WE HAVE ALL THAT SAND DOWN ON THE ROAD RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE TO CONTRACT THAT OUT TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND GET IT. AND WE'RE IN LINE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE WHERE IF WE HAVE THIS SERVICE, WE CAN GO OUT AND TAKE CARE OF IT RIGHT AWAY. SO THIS IS A, A REALLY, I THINK, UH, LIKE A QUALITY [01:35:01] AD FOR US. DID YOU SAY WE'RE RIGHT NOW CONTRACTING ABOUT 90,000 ANNUAL? THAT'S CORRECT. THE RECURRING COST FOR THIS AND WHAT WE'RE PAYING A CONTRACTOR IS ABOUT A WASH. SO IT'S ABOUT 90,000 EITHER WAY. A LITTLE BIT OF A SAVINGS. UM, BUT WE'RE HAD THE CAPITAL OUTLAY FOR THE TRUCK. SO AND YOU SAY RECURRING, YOU'RE INCLUDING THE, THE THE HIRE, THE EMPLOYEE, YES. ALSO, YES, SIR. YEP. YES, SIR. HAS ADDISON EVER OWNED ONE OF THESE VEHICLES? YES, SIR. IN THE PAST WE HAVE. AT THE AIRPORT. AT THE AIRPORT, YES SIR. THIS, THIS PARTICULAR MANUFACTURER. YES, SIR. AND I'VE OWNED ONE BEFORE TOO. YEP. NOT PERSONALLY, BUT I , BUT, UH, LITTLE TOY AND, AND I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO SPECIFIC MANUFACTURERS, BUT THERE'S ONE ON THE SCREEN THAT JUST HAS A STELLAR REPUTATION IN THE INDUSTRY. THEY'RE TEXAS MADE, THEY PROVIDE, UH, FREE ONSITE TRAINING FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION, UH, QUALITY, QUALITY COMPANY. SO, SO IS THIS JUST FOR STREETS? IS IT, IS IT, UH, FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO, TO GO INTO, UH, ALLEYWAYS OR YEAH, IT'LL, IT CAN DO ALLEYWAYS THOUGH. SO PERCENTAGE OF THE STREETS THAT IT CAN GO THROUGH, OR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OUR STREETS. A HUNDRED PERCENT. YEAH. I'LL TELL YOU, WE'LL HAVE CHALLENGES IN THE LITTLE SHORT CUL-DE-SACS TRYING TO GET EVERY, EVERY LICK OF THAT. SURE. JUST BECAUSE THE SWEEPERS AND WHERE THEY ARE. BUT I THINK WE MIGHT END UP SPECKING IT. THEY HAVE A HOSE THAT YOU CAN PUT ON IT. YOU CAN GO OUT AND TRY TO GET SOME OF THAT STUFF TOO. WOULD THE IDEA NEED TO CHANGE ANY OF THE CURRENT AREAS THOUGH THAT WE, THAT WE SEE, OR WE WOULD CONTINUE TO DO THE CURRENT AREAS? WE CONTINUE THE CURRENT AREAS, BUT MY, I THINK OUR INTENTION WAS WOULD BE TO TOUCH ALL THE STREETS IN, IN THE, IN THE TOWN AND IN SOME AREAS MORE OFTEN THAN WE'RE DOING NOW. MORE YOU HAVE A FREQUENCY, AND MAYBE THAT'S RIGHT. FIRING POLICE. MM-HMM. , WHICH WE, THERE COULD EVEN BE POTENTIAL FOR ADDITIONAL REVENUE. SO YOU MENTIONED AN ICE STORM AND ALL OF THE SAND BEING PUT ON STREETS, YOU KNOW, AFTER WE GET ADDISON STREETS, STREET'S TAKEN CARE OF, WE CAN FARM OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE A LOT MORE STREETS AND A LOT LESS RESOURCES. SO IT IS SOMETHING WE COULD OBVIOUSLY TALK ABOUT, BUT THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM OUR NORMAL OPERATIONS TOO. SO, AND IF WE HAD PEOPLE STRUGGLING, IT WOULD SEEM THAT IF WE HAVE A, AN EVENT, FREEZE EVENT, ICE EVENT, THAT THAT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE WHERE WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE ASSISTANCE TO GET THAT INITIAL, UH, SUITE DONE. BECAUSE THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT OF HEAVY. THAT WOULD BE A HEAVY LIFT FOR YEAH. ONE UNIT. IT'S GONNA TAKE, IT TAKES A WHILE TO PICK UP ALL THAT SAND. YOU DON'T, I MEAN, THE REPORTS DURING THE ICE EVENT, WE PUT DOWN HUNDREDS OF TONS OF THE SAND DOWN ON THE ROADS AND EVERY BIT OF IT NEEDS TO BE PICKED BACK UP WHERE IT GOES ON OUR STORM SEWER AND WE PICK IT UP ON THE PREVIOUS PROGRAM. SO , SO ON ON THIS, IF THERE'S NOT A SPECIAL WEATHER EVENT WITH THIS THING, YOU SEE THIS THING WORKING LIKE FIVE DAYS A WEEK. WE RUN PROBABLY FOUR DAYS, FOUR DAYS A WEEK. THE SAME, SAME AS WE DO RIGHT NOW. UM, OUT ON THE ROAD AT SIX 30 IN THE MORNING. UM, PROBABLY HITTING SOME OF THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. WE'D HAVE TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THAT. DON'T THINK WE'D WANNA RUN IT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS QUITE THAT EARLY. BUT NO, WE'D, WE'D WANT TO HIT THEM MAYBE EIGHT O'CLOCK. WE'D, WE'D WORK THROUGH THE SCHEDULE, BUT WE'D HAVE IT RUNNING ALL DAY LONG. UM, YOU KNOW, FOUR DAYS A WEEK. AND THEN AS NEEDED, IF WE SEE ANY AREAS THAT WE'RE MISSING, OR THE PART THAT DRIVES ME CRAZY IS WHEN YOU MAKE THE TURNS AND YOU HAVE THE, LIKE THE PORK CHOP MEDIAN AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE DIRT AND STUFF IN THERE THAT THOSE SWEEPERS DON'T PICK UP. YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S A TOWN EMPLOYEE WHO CARES AND WANTS TO MAKE THINGS LOOK GOOD AND BE PROUD OF WHAT IT DO, WHAT THEY DO. SO I THINK WE'LL HAVE A BETTER LOOKING STREETS. SO COULD THIS BE USED SOMEPLACE TO DISPLACE, UH, MANPOWER AND MANUAL LABOR? RIGHT NOW IT'S ALL CONTRACTED OUT, ALL OF THE STREET SWEEPING STUFF. IT WOULD BE USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE WHERE THERE WOULD BE AN EXTRA PERSON DOING SOME SWEEPING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NO, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SWEEPING THE STREETS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO BACK ON, UH, SLIDE 36 ON THE TRAILER. YES, SIR. SO THAT, THAT'S LIKE A ONE MAN LIFT OPERATION. SO, UM, I'M, I'M THINKING ABOUT DISPLACING, YOU KNOW, MANUAL LABOR AND MAKING PEOPLE'S JOBS, UH, BETTER AND LESS, UH, SHOVELING, IF YOU WILL. SO I SEE THIS IN THE SWEEPER TO WHERE IT COULD BE DISPLACING SOME OF THAT AS WELL. COST SAVINGS, THAT'S ALL. SHANNON, YOU MENTIONED A, UH, FOR THOSE SMALLER CUL-DE-SACS, A HOSE. YES, IT WOULD GO OUT, LET ME SEE, THERE'S AN OPTION FOR THESE. THERE'S A LITTLE BLACK PORT RIGHT THERE. YOU CAN HOOK UP HOSE TO IT AND THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO AROUND AND IT'S LIKE A BIG LITTLE VACUUM HOSE AND PICK THINGS UP TOO. SO, SO, SO [01:40:01] THE, THE DRIVER WOULD'VE TO GET OUT OF THE TRUCK AND COME IN, DO THAT. RIGHT. OKAY. OR IF, IF THEY NOTICE THOSE AREAS ARE REALLY BAD, WE MAY BRING SOMEBODY WITH THEM, ONE OF OTHER STORMWATER PEOPLE, AND THEY DRIVE AROUND AND DO THAT ON A ONE-OFF BASIS KIND OF STUFF. I WAS, I WAS JUST PICTURING SOMETHING, A HOSE THAT COULD STICK OUT THE WINDOWS. YOU'RE GOING OUT, THOSE PICK UP ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THAT, WE HAVE THAT LITTER GOING DOWN THE SIDES OF THE ROADS, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE A GAP. WE DON'T SEEM TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT PICKED UP. THAT'D BE KIND OF HANDY. THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THERE AND STUFF TOO, SO, BUT I, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE STORM? STORMWATER? OKAY, LAST ONE'S THE STREETS DIVISION. UM, SO OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE STREETS DIVISION. UM, THIS, THIS, YEAH, I THINK YOU SKIPPED HERE. YEAH. OH FINE. SORRY. THANKS. THIS IS YOUR, THIS IS YOUR, UH, ONE YOU'RE MOST EXCITED ABOUT . IT WAS JUST APPROVED. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'D LIKE TO DO THIS, THIS COMING YEARS IS WE'D ADD, LIKE, TO ADD A PUBLIC WORKS SUPERINTENDENT, ONE OF THE GAPS THAT WE FIND IS, UH, CURRENTLY IT'S, IT'S MYSELF AND TODD WEINHEIMER IS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. AND WE TEND TO BE JUMPING FROM FIRE TO FIRE TO FIRE. AND WE'RE NOT HAVING ENOUGH TIME TO DEVELOP OUR TEAM AND MAKE THEM BETTER LEADERS, BETTER MANAGERS, BRING THEM ALONG, HELP THEM WITH PERSONNEL ISSUES AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. AND WHAT WE BELIEVE IS BY ADDING A SUPERINTENDENT, THIS PER THIS POSITION WOULD BE OVER THE OPERATIONS SIDE OF THE HOUSE. UH, THE WATER, THE, THE STORM WATER, UH, STREETS, DIVISIONS. IT WOULD HELP US BE A LOT MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE AND BE A BETTER TEAM, DELIVER BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE. IT ALLOW US TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME ON SOME OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THE PUBLIC OUTREACH IS GOING WELL. UM, YOU KNOW, OUT, OUT IN THE PUBLIC IT MAY LOOK REALLY GOOD, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF HAIR ON FIRE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE THINK THIS WOULD HELP US BE A LOT MORE EFFICIENT AND DELIVER A BETTER PRODUCT AT THE END. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. . SO THE STREETS DIVISION, UM, OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS THIS LAST YEAR IS WE COMPLETED THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BELLA LANE EXTENSION WITH FARMER'S BRANCH. IT'S, UH, SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF. THAT WAS A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO THAT. UH, WE COMPLETED THE, THE DESIGN OF THE KEL SPRINGS ROAD RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. UH, AND WE BEGAN THE DESIGN OF MONTFORD AND QUORUM JUST A LITTLE BIT ON KELLER SPRINGS. UH, WE DID GO OUT FOR PROPOSALS. WE RECEIVED ONE PROPOSAL, UM, THAT THE NEXT MEETING, THERE'LL BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TALK ABOUT SOME OPTIONS. THE GOOD NEWS IS WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THE PRICE SIGNIFICANTLY. IT WASN'T AS MUCH AS WE'D PRAYED FOR, BUT IT IS ENOUGH TO WHERE WE CAN DO THE PROJECT. WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, UM, TO GIVE US DIRECTION ON, ON WHICH THINGS YOU, COMPONENTS YOU'D LIKE TO INCLUDE IN THE PROJECT. UM, BUT THAT WILL BE COMING AT THE NEXT MEETING AND THEN PENDING THE DECISIONS FROM THERE. THE CONTRACT WILL BE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FOR AWARD, PROBABLY THE FIRST MEETING OF SEPTEMBER. THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH GAP BETWEEN THE NEXT MEETING AND THE FOLLOWING AND GET THE AGENDA DONE FIRST TO GET THAT TOGETHER. SO WE'RE PROBABLY BRINGING THAT IN SEPTEMBER, UH, THE FIRST MEETING OF SEPTEMBER. AND THEN CONSTRUCTION WOULD PROBABLY BEGIN IN OCTOBER. UH, WE, UH, COMPLETED THE MAJOR PAVING OPERATIONS ON THE SOUTH END OF MIDWAY. UH, WE'RE ALMOST DONE WITH THAT RIGHT NOW. THE CONTRACTOR'S IN THERE FINISHING UP TURN LANES AND DRIVEWAYS AND, AND TRYING TO WRANGLE SUBCONTRACTORS AND GET THAT WRAPPED UP. WE'RE HOPEFUL TO HAVE TRAFFIC MOVED OVER TO THE NEW LANES IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. SO EVERYTHING IS LOOKING REALLY GOOD OUT THERE. CONTRACTORS DOING EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO KEEP IT GOING FORWARD. EVERY TIME WE TURN AROUND, WE FIND ANOTHER FRANCHISE UTILITY NOBODY KNEW ABOUT. SO WE HAD FOUR ON THE NORTH END OF THE PROJECT. WE JUST GOT CLEARED, SO THEY HAD TO RESCHEDULE AND SEQUENCE EVERYTHING THEY WERE DOING, BUT THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD ABOUT THAT. AND SO THEY'VE BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH. WE COMPLETED THE, UH, THE PAINTING OF THE WHEELER BRIDGE, SO THAT'S LOOKING REALLY GOOD. UM, THEY NOW MATCH OURS LOOKS BETTER THAN DART'S RIGHT NOW, SO I'M PROUD OF THAT. WE, WE WILL BE IN TALKS WITH THEM ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE, WE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT GOING FORWARD. SO I THINK, UM, IT SHOULD BE IN A CERTAIN CONDITION BEFORE WE TAKE ACCEPT OWNERSHIP. WE'LL WORK WITH 'EM ON THAT. YOU MENTIONED THAT THE DART MEETING THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK, THAT THE CONTRACTOR IS COMING OKAY. TO TOUCH THAT UP. SO WE'LL BE IN CONTACT WITH THEM, BUT THEY KNOW IT DOESN'T LOOK WELL, IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD OUT THERE. YEAH. THANKS. UH, AND THEN ONE OF THE REALLY COOL THINGS WE'VE DONE IS INTEGRATED OUR SCHOOL FLASHERS IN THE WAYS AND GOOGLE MAPS SO THAT IF YOU'RE DRIVING AND YOU HAVE ONE OF THOSE APPS OPEN AND THE THE SCHOOL FLASHERS GOING OFF, YOU'LL GET A NOTICE JUST LIKE YOU DO, LIKE RAILROAD TRACKS OR COP AHEAD OR WHATEVER IT IS. SO OUR OBJECTIVES FOR NEXT YEAR IS JUST [01:45:01] TO, YES, SIR. BEFORE YOU GO ON. YEP. CAN YOU GIVE US A, A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE, UH, SIDE PATH PROGRESS ON MIDWAY ON MIDWAY THE SIDE PATH TRAIL FROM KELLER SPRINGS. I MEAN SPRING VALLEY TO PROTON IS ALMOST ALL COMPLETE. THE CONTRACTOR'S OUT WORKING ON THE, THE DETECTOR PADS FOR THE HANDICAP STUFF RIGHT NOW. THERE WAS MATERIAL DELAY ON THAT AND THEY'RE EX EXCAVATING RIGHT NOW FOR THE SIDE PAT TRAIL GOING FROM, UH, BELTWAY DOWN TO PROTON. SO WE'RE HOPEFUL IN THE NEXT MONTH PROBABLY THAT'LL BE WRAPPED UP. UM, LANDSCAPING PROBABLY START IN EARNEST, I'D SAY LATE SEPTEMBER DOWN THERE. I MEAN, WE DON'T REALLY WANNA START PLANTING STUFF OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, SO, BUT EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. SURE. UM, SO FOR OUR OBJECTIVES, WE WANT TO CONTINUE OUR OUTSTANDING, UH, SERVICE ON OUR BULK AND TRASH. YOU KNOW, OUR GUYS ARE OUT THERE PROACTIVELY RUNNING THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO PICK UP THINGS. UM, A LOT OF TIMES THEY GET PICKED UP BEFORE WE EVER GET A WORK ORDER. SO THEY'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB. WE WANT TO COMPLETE MIDWAY ROAD RECONSTRUCTION. SO THAT'S FINALLY ON MY GOAL FOR THE, FOR ONE OF THE FISCAL YEARS. SO WE SHOULD, UM, WE'RE STILL ON TARGET FOR THE SPRING OF NEXT YEAR. UM, SO WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE A BUNCH OF CONCRETE FLYING ON THE NORTH END. THEY'VE GOT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO LINDBERGH ON THE SOUTHBOUND LANES PREPPED AND READY FOR STEEL. SO THAT STUFF'S GONNA START GOING OUT THERE REAL QUICK. WANNA BEGIN CONSTRUCTION ON KELLER SPRINGS ROAD AND, UH, WE WANNA COMPLETE THE DESIGN AND BEGIN CONSTRUCTION ON MONTFORD THAT PROJECT'S MOVING FORWARD. WE'RE GONNA BE SCHEDULING SOME MEETINGS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ADJACENT TO THERE. 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE MAKING SOME MEDIAN CHANGES AND POSSIBLY SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS OUT THERE TOO. BUT I DON'T WANNA DO THAT IN A VACUUM. I WANNA TALK TO THEM, GET THEIR INPUT. IF THEY'RE TOTALLY AGAINST IT, WE MAY HAVE TO DO SOME OTHER THINGS FOR DECISION PACKETS. UM, IF ANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE DRIVEN ON ARAPAHOE RECENTLY, UM, FROM ON THE, UH, WEST SIDE OF THE BRIDGE, YOU'VE SEEN THE BRICK PAVERS OUT THERE AND THE CROSSWALKS, WHAT'S HAPPENING. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL BRICK PAVER COMPANIES COME OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND IT'S THE HEAVY VEHICLES TURNING THEIR WHEELS IN THOSE CROSSWALKS. AND IF YOU LOOK, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE TURNING MOVEMENT'S HAPPENING. IT'S TWISTING THE BRICKS, IT'S CAUSING 'EM TO LOOSEN UP AND ALL THE SANDS GETTING OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THEM. AND THEN IT'S ENDED UP DAMAGING THE SLEEPER SLAB. WE ASKED THE COMPANY, THE BRICK PAVER COMPANY, WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED AND THEY RECOMMENDED DON'T USE BRICK HERE. SO . SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF SPEAKS TO THE AUTHENTICITY OF THAT STATEMENT. WHEN, UH, THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T RECOMMEND IT. THEY DID TELL US THAT IF WE WANTED TO USE BRICK THERE, IT WAS, UM, ALMOST $200,000 EVERY THREE YEARS. WE NEEDED TO BUDGET TO MAINTAIN THAT. SO THE COST FOR US TO REPLACE THE BRICK PAVERS, UM, FROM BASICALLY SURVEYOR AT THE CROSSWALKS DOWN WEST TOWARDS, UH, MARSH IS ABOUT $300,000. IT'S ONE TIME COST. AND WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE TO DO, WE'D GO BACK WITH STAINED STAMPED CONCRETE, VERY SIMILAR TO THE CROSSWALK AT ADDISON AND ARAPAHOE, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE BRICK, BUT IT'S NOT. SO, AND IT'S ALSO IN THE MEDIAN, ALL THE WAY DOWN ADDISON ROAD TOO. SO WE'D USE, IN INTERALLY, THAT'S A HARD WORD FOR ME, DYED CONCRETE. SO IF WE EVER HAVE TO REPAIR IT OR IF IT WEARS, IT STILL HAS COLOR. IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF STUFF WE'RE USING ON BELTWAY RIGHT NOW. A BELT LINE, UM, MIDWAY, SORRY, THE INTERSECTION OF MIDWAY AND BELTLINE'S GOT THE, UH, THAT, THAT TYPE OF CONCRETE, AND WE GO BACK WITH STAMPED LIKE BRICK. SO WE HAVE THAT SAME PAVER CONDITION ON SURVEYOR AND ARAPAHO. YES. THIS, I THINK, IS THAT, THAT PICTURE? IT'S ONE OF THOSE CROSSWALKS. YES, SIR. AND DO WE ONLY HAVE THAT CONDITION ON ARAPAHO THROUGHOUT TOW? THAT IS CORRECT. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BRICK PAVERS IN THE, UH, TURNING MOVEMENTS IN OTHER AREAS. WE HAVE BRICK PAVERS IN THE ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT. YEAH. BUT WE'RE NOT HAVING AS MUCH ISSUE THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE HEAVY TRUCK AND MAKING THE, THE IMAGINE AS THEY'RE SITTING THERE, THEY'RE MAKING A TURN THAT THAT WHEEL IS TRYING TO TWIST THOSE BRICK PAVERS. THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. SO THE QUORUM ARAPAHOE ROAD IS, UH, OH, CORMAN ARAPAHOE ROAD IS THE SAME SITUATION. RIGHT. BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA TOUCH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE QUORUM DESIGN. AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THERE, BUT MY VOTE IS GONNA BE NO BRICK PAVERS THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, JANNA'S GONNA HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THE AESTHETICS AND, BUT I, I THINK WE'LL END UP DOING SOMETHING DECORATIVE, BUT NOT BRICK PAVERS, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING THE TRANSIT THAT'S BUSES GOING OVER THAT. YEAH. CONSTANTLY. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. BUT THE STAMP CONCRETE, IF YOU JUST DRIVE BY IT, YOU THINK IT'S, YEAH, YOU DON'T KNOW. YOU DON'T KNOW. IT, IT, THE, THE CROSSWALKS OF ARAPAHOE [01:50:01] AND ADDISON ARE SO CONVINCING. I KNEW THEY WERE STAMPED, BUT AFTER TAKING DAVE AND ASHLEY ON A TOUR, I WENT BACK AND TOUCHED IT JUST TO VERIFY. I WAS LIKE, I GOTTA MAKE SURE ONE MORE TIME TELLING THE TRUTH. UH, THE NEST DECISION PACKET IS SOME BRICK DECORATIVE BANDS ALONG THE SIDEWALKS IN VITRUVIAN, SPECIFICALLY ON BELLA LANE. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE CONDITION OUT THERE ON A LOT OF THAT. WHEN THESE WERE INSTALLED, I THINK THEY HAD DIRT UP AGAINST THE BRICK PAVERS AND THEY DID NOT HAVE A CONCRETE, UH, CURB TO HOLD IN THE SAND BETWEEN THEM AND UNDERNEATH THEM. AND OVER TIME, THAT DIRT SETTLED AND WASHED AWAY AND ALLOWED THESE BRICKS TO, TO FAIL. SAME BRICK CONTRACTOR THAT WE'D BROUGHT OUT TO ARAPAHOE, WE BROUGHT 'EM OUT THERE TOO, AND THEY SAID, LOOK, WE KNOW HOW TO FIX THIS. WE CAN FIX IT. RIGHT. UM, THE COST IS ABOUT $105,000. OKAY. AND THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER OPTION FOR THIS OTHER THAN TO JUST RIP 'EM OUT. BUT AESTHETICALLY THEY DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THEY ARE, THEY DO LOOK NICE THROUGH THERE. AND, AND THIS IS MORE THAN JUST BELLA LANE? IT IS FOR THE PROJECT. I THINK THIS IS JUST BELLA LANE. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A BIG ISSUE. OTHER AREAS WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK. IT MAY HAVE CHANGED SINCE WE'VE DONE THIS, WE MAY HAVE TO ADD A COUPLE MORE AREAS. WHEN WE GET READY TO DO THIS WORK, WE'LL GO DO A QUICK INVENTORY THROUGH EVERYTHING WITH A CONTRACTOR. AND IF WE HAVE TO ADD SOME MORE TO IT, WE WILL. BECAUSE THIS IS MORE THAN JUST MAINTENANCE. THIS IS ACTUALLY FIXING THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE. YES. YEAH. IS IT JUST, WHAT KINDA LINEAR FOOTAGE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? ANY GUESS ON THAT? $105,000? I, I DON'T, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. WE CAN GET YOU THAT ANSWER. I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH, I'M REMEMBERING WHERE THIS IS. THAT'S WHY I'M, YOU KNOW, UH, IF YOU TURN OFF OF THE TRIVIAN ON THE BELLA ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, IT'S PRETTY MUCH THAT ENTIRE LENGTH DOWN THROUGH THERE. OH. DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT THERE. OH, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DETAILS? ANYTHING ELSE? NOT YET. , TONIGHT'S YOUR ONE SHOT, BECAUSE TOMORROW I'M NOT HERE. I'LL BE ON VACATION. SO OH, WELL, SHOULDN'T SAID START OVER. ALL RIGHT. LOOK AT THIS. WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN OVER TO JANET . THANKS. THANKS SHANNON. THANKS JANA. WILL YOU HERE? JANA, WILL YOU BE HERE TOMORROW NIGHT? YEAH. AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY MONEY THAT Y'ALL WANNA REDIRECT . I I I HAVE A FEELING SHANNON BEING COME UP FOR SOME OF JAN'S ITEMS, SO YOU ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANKS. LEMME GET MYSELF SITUATED HERE. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU, UM, THE TWO DIVISIONS THAT ARE UNDER PARKS AND RECREATION, WHICH IS PARKS AND RECREATION. WE'RE GONNA START OUT WITH THE PARKS DIVISION. UM, OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR F Y 23 INCLUDE, WE WERE AWARDED 12.2 UM, MILLION DOLLARS IN A GRANT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE ADDISON COTTON BELT TRAIL OR THE MIDWAY ROAD BRIDGE. UM, AND WE WERE PROUD THAT OUR APPLICATION OUT OF I THINK THE 20 THAT, OR 16 TO 20 THAT WERE APPROVED, OURS WAS RANKED NUMBER ONE, UM, OUT OF THAT . UM, IT WAS A LOT OF HARD WORK TO GET THAT GRANTED AND WE WERE REALLY HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS. CAN YOU REMIND US WHO THE APPLICATIONS WERE SENT TO WHERE THE MONEY? THAT APPLICATION WENT TO THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO SUPPORTED THE NORTH CENTRAL COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS IN THEM SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION TO TXDOT. AND WE'RE WAITING ON THE RESULTS OF THAT. WE PROBABLY WON'T HEAR ANYTHING UNTIL OCTOBER ON THAT REMAINING AMOUNT. UM, ANOTHER THING THAT OUR TEAM DID THIS YEAR IS THE PARKS LEADERSHIP TEAM SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED A LEADERSHIP TRAINING SERIES. AND I'M ALREADY SEEING THE RESULTS OF THIS. WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS ABOUT OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE AND HOW WE ARE DEALING WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND I, AND, AND WE ALSO ARE WORKING BETTER TOGETHER AND WE'RE ABLE TO BE MORE PRODUCTIVE BECAUSE OF IT. SO IT'S BEEN A BIG WIN FOR US. UM, WE'VE COMPLETED OR ARE CURRENTLY COMPLETING THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR LAY LOCKS POND. WE'RE WRAPPING THOSE UP RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE BASICALLY AT A HUNDRED PERCENT AND WE'RE JUST TIDYING UP SOME LOOSE ENDS. UM, AND WE PROJECT THAT THIS PROJECT WILL GO OUT TO BID BY THE END OF THE YEAR. AND WE WILL BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION IN NOVEMBER, IS OUR ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW. WE ARE HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING IN AUGUST AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB. THAT IS AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING FOR ANYBODY WHO LIVES AROUND THAT POND AND WANTS TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW THE CONSTRUCTION'S GOING TO BE QUE SEQUENCE THE TIMEFRAME. AND, UM, WHAT ELEMENTS WILL BE IN THAT. UM, SO WE'LL BE INVOLVING OUR COMMUNITY IN THAT MEETING. [01:55:01] WE HAVE TRAINED STAFF ON THE USE OF INTEGRATION OF ASSET MANAGEMENT. SO WE HAVE THE IRIS SOFTWARE. WE HAVE SEVERAL NEW EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE TAKEN ON HIGH LEADERSHIP ROLES WITH THE TOWN. AND SO FOR A WHILE THERE WAS ONE PERSON IN OUR DEPARTMENT KIND OF MANAGING THAT SOFTWARE AND NOW WE ARE KIND OF RIPPLING IT OUT THROUGH ALL OF OUR SUPERVISORS AND LEADERSHIPS, UM, THE LEADERSHIP TEAM MEMBERS IN OUR DEPARTMENT. SO MORE PEOPLE ARE TOUCHING AND USING AND UPDATING THAT SOFTWARE BECAUSE THAT SOFTWARE IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE DATA THAT YOU PUT IN IT. 'CAUSE IT, IT REALLY IS A PICTURE IN TIME. UM, WE WROTE AN INTERNAL POLICY FOR MANAGING TREE MITIGATION FUNDS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT THAT IS HAPPENING IN ADDISON IS WE HAVE SOME LOTS THAT ARE PRETTY TREE HEAVY BECAUSE WE USED TO ENCOURAGE PLANTING TREES 20 FEET APART. AND NOW WE, UM, ARE ENCOURAGING HEALTHIER SPACING. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WE HAVE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING IN THAT BECAUSE THE SPACING IS DIFFERENT, THEY AREN'T ABLE TO PLANT ALL OF THOSE TREES BACK ON THEIR LOT. AND THEY ARE STARTING TO PAY US TO MITIGATE THOSE TREES WITHIN THE TOWN FOR THEM. AND SO THIS WAS HAPPENING OVER AND OVER. AND SO WE DEVELOPED AN INTERNAL POLICY ON HOW WE WOULD MANAGE THOSE FUNDS, WHERE THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE USED. WE ESTABLISHED THAT OUR FIRST GOAL IS THAT THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE SPENT ON THE DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY FIRST, AND IF IT COULDN'T, THEN WE WOULD TRIGGER THIS TREE MITIGATION POLICY. UM, IT IS OUR GOAL TO ROLL THIS INTO THE U D C THAT, UM, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT IS WORKING ON. UM, SO IT WILL BE MEMORIALIZED THROUGH THAT. AND THEN WE COMPLETED THE VITRUVIAN PARK EROSION CONTROL PROJECT. SO IF YOU REMEMBER WHERE THE STEEP SLOPES ARE ALONG THE WALKING TRAIL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE POND, UH, WE HAD A LOT OF SHADE, BUT WE ALSO HAD A LOT OF WATER RUNNING DOWN THAT HILL AND IT WAS CAUSING SOME SIGNIFICANT EROSION AND WE WOULD GET A SMALL RAIN AND THAT TRAIL WOULD BECOME UNSAFE TO USE UNTIL WE COULD GET PEOPLE OUT THERE TO CLEAN IT. AND SO WE'VE GONE IN, WE'VE STABILIZED THE GRADE, WE'VE PUT TURF DOWN, UM, WE'VE GONE IN AND PRUNE THE TREES AND OPENED THEM UP AND A LET MORE SUN IN. AND WE'VE SEEN SOME SUCCESS AND, AND, AND THE AMOUNT OF TIMES THAT WE HAVE TO GO CLEAN THAT TRAIL AFTER A RAIN EVENT AND THE USE THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THAT. UM, I'M GONNA SKIP OVER THIS 'CAUSE I THINK I YEP, I THINK I DUPLICATED THAT SLIDE. UM, SO OUR OBJECTIVES FOR THIS YEAR, AND THIS IS A BIG ONE, UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT IN THIS ONE, SO I KIND OF UNPACKED IT IN A BULLET LIST FOR YOU. UM, WE WANNA WORK TO OVERSEE THE EXECUTION OF THE VISION ESTABLISHED IN THE PARK RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE PLAN. THE CITYWIDE TRAILS MASTER PLAN, THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS REGIONAL MOBILITY PLAN, AND THE D R C AND BOND FUNDED PROJECTS. UM, THE THINGS THAT ARE BIG OBJECTIVES THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON THAT KIND OF RELATE TO THOSE THINGS IN THAT LIST IS THE PARKLAND DEDICATION AND DEVELOPMENT FEE STUDY THAT WE HAVE STARTED. UM, AND WE ARE WORKING ON, AND AND YOU JUST APPOINTED A COMMITTEE FOR THAT AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. UM, WE WILL BE MEETING WITH THEM PRETTY SOON TO GET THAT KICKED OFF. UM, ESTABLISHING A VISION FOR THE ACTIVATION OF ADDISON CIRCLE PARK. THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS LISTED IN THE PARKS MASTER PLAN AS A GAME CHANGING INITIATIVE FOR ADDISON. AND WITH THE T O D DEVELOPMENT PROJECT COMING ON, THE TIME IS PERFECT TO BE LOOKING AT THAT VISION FOR ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, UM, AND IMPLEMENTING SOME TRAIL PROJECTS. WE HAVE A PHASED TRAILS MASTER PLAN. AND SO LOOKING AT WHAT IS IN OUR PHASE ONE, WHICH IS BELTWAY TRAIL, UM, WHICH INCLUDES THE FIRST BIKE LANES THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED IN ADDISON, EXTENDING THE REDDING TRAIL TO CONNECT TO THE MIDWAY, UM, ROAD TRAIL THAT'S GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED AND STEWARDING IN THE COTTON BELT TRAIL. AND THEN THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE LISTED ARE THE LAY LOCKS POND LINER REPLACEMENT PROJECT, WHICH I JUST SPOKE ABOUT IN THE VITRUVIAN PARKS COURT. PORT SPORT COURT. THAT'S A MOUTHFUL PROJECT, UM, RIGHT NOW THAT, UM, I THINK THEY WERE FORMING UP CONCRETE TODAY AND GETTING READY TO POUR TOMORROW. UM, IF THAT HAPPENS, WE HAVE ABOUT A 30 DAY CLOCK THAT STARTS KICK TICKING AND THEN IN THAT TIMEFRAME WE CAN START, UM, INSTALLING THE EQUIPMENT FOR THAT SPORT COURT. UM, ONE OF THE REALLY FUN THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THAT THING GETS ACTIVATED IS THE COMPANY THAT PROVIDED THE EQUIPMENT WILL COME OUT AND HELP US DO A REALLY FUN RIBBON CUTTING. SO THAT'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY TO LOOK FORWARD TO. UM, ANOTHER ONE OF OUR OBJECTIVES IS TO CONTINUE TO IMPLEMENT THE ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN. WHEN WE DID THE PARKS OPEN SPACE OR REC THE PROS PLAN, ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE THINGS WE HEARD FROM OUR RESIDENTS IS TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE FIRST. UM, AND SO BEFORE WE START LOOKING AT ADDING ON, AND SO THAT IS WHAT THAT ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN IS ALL ABOUT. AND THEN CONTINUE TO MANAGE THE URBAN FOREST TREE [02:00:01] MITIGATION AND RESTORE AGING LANDSCAPE AREAS IN ADDISON. UM, THE LANDSCAPE REALLY IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR IDENTITY AND WHO ADDISON IS. AND A LOT OF IT WAS PLANTED AT THE SAME TIME AND IT HAS GONE THROUGH A COUPLE OF SEVERE WINDSTORMS AND FREEZES AND, AND SO WE REALLY ARE AT THIS PLACE WHERE WE ARE GOING BACK AND REFURBISHING WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR PARKS AND RIGHT OF WAYS AND MEDIANS TO KEEP IT UP TO THE ADDISON STANDARD. OKAY, NOW I'LL GO THROUGH OUR DECISION PACKAGES THAT WE HAVE FOR THE PARKS, UM, DIVISION. AND OUR FIRST ONE IS, UM, THE A, THE PLANNED ASSET MANAGEMENT REPLACEMENT. NOW, I WANNA CORRECT ONE THING DOWN HERE FOR THE COST. IT'S $196,000. AND I HAVE THAT LISTED AS A REOCCURRING COST BECAUSE OUR DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY CALCULATED OUT WHAT DO WE NEED OVER THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 YEARS TO KEEP UP WITH THIS PLAN. AND IT WAS $196,000. NOW, WHAT'S FUNDED IN THE BUDGET IS FROM OUR SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS ACCOUNT, WHICH IS A ONE-TIME EXPENSE. IT'S NOT REOCCURRING, BUT YOU WILL SEE ME BACK HERE NEXT YEAR , UM, WITH A NEW LIST OF PROJECTS TALKING ABOUT, UM, PARKS ASSET MANAGEMENT. UM, THE REASON THAT WE'RE DOING THIS IS WE'RE GETTING AHEAD AND WE'RE PROACTIVELY MANAGING OUR DEPARTMENT ASSET NEEDS RELATED. AND THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO SITE AMENITIES, UM, BY REPAIRING OR REPLACING THEM OVER THE UPCOMING YEARS OR DOING, UM, MAINTENANCE EFFORTS. JUST TO GIVE YOU A WINDOW OF HOW MANY ASSETS WE HAVE IN OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE 4,200, UM, WHICH IS THE EQUIVALENT OF $11 MILLION IN PARK ASSETS THAT WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED OR REHABBED WITHIN THE TE NEXT 10 YEARS. NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GONNA GO IN AND REPLACE ALL $11 MILLION OF THOSE ITEMS. SOME OF THEM MAY BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS PAINTING THEM OR REPLACING SOME COMPONENTS IN THEM, BUT THAT IS THE ASSET VALUE TO THE TOWN ON THOSE. SO FOR THE, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT $196,000 WILL DO THIS NEXT YEAR, IT WILL REPLACE TRI, UM, 50 TRASH RECEPTACLES, UM, 15 POLE LIGHTS AT TOWN PARK, 10 POLE LIGHTS AT ARA ON ARAPAHOE ROAD, TWO POLE LIGHTS AT BECKARD. IT WILL GO IN AND BEGIN TO REFURBISH THE BOSQUE PARK FOUNTAIN, WHICH HAS SOME GROUT ISSUES AND SOME RECIRCULATION ISSUES. AND IT WILL REPLACE 40 STREET SCAPE BALLARDS THAT ARE IN THE ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICTS. SO SOME OF OUR MORE NARROW ROADS IN ADDISON CIRCLE HAVE THE REALLY SHORT BALLARDS THAT KIND OF ACT AS THE CURBS. THEY CATCH A LOT OF ABUSE FROM DELIVERY TRUCKS AND, AND THEY'RE SHOWING THEIR AGE. AND SO WE WOULD GO IN AND BEGIN REPLACING THOSE. A QUICK QUESTION YES. ON THE 11 MILLION PARKS ASSETS MM-HMM. IN 10 YEARS. SO THAT NUMBER DOES NOT CONSIDER, UH, YES. SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE FUTURE. RIGHT. SO, COR CORRECT. NOW WHEN THERE ARE PROJECTS LIKE IF WE'RE GONNA TOUCH LAY LOCK'S POND, UM, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE ASSETS IN THAT AND IF, IF WE CAN REPLACE SOME OF THOSE WITH THOSE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, WE WILL DO THAT. BUT THESE, FOR THE MOST PART, WHAT IS IN THIS LIST ARE TOUCHING, UM, PARKS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A C I P PROJECT THAT WE'RE JUST, IT'S JUST MAINTENANCE. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT ITEM? OKAY. SO THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK VISION PLAN. UM, THIS WAS, AS I MENTIONED, SOMETHING THAT WAS LISTED AS A TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON AND THE PARK RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE PLAN. UM, WHEN WE DID A SURVEY OF OUR RESIDENTS, ONE OF THE COMMON THINGS THAT WE HEARD IS THEY WANTED A CLYDE WARREN TYPE PARK IN ADDISON. AND THERE WERE SOME REQUESTS ABOUT COULD WE BUILD A DECK PARK? BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE BONES AND INFRASTRUCTURE OF CLYDE WARREN AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK. WE JUST DON'T ACTIVATE IT ON A DAILY BASIS LIKE CLYDE WARREN DOES. AND SO WE REALLY FEEL LIKE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY THERE TO LEVERAGE WHAT WE HAVE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD, UM, THE VERY EXPENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WE CAN COME IN AND WE CAN START PROGRAMMING THAT PARK. YOU, YOU'VE SEEN THAT WE'VE DONE SOME OF THOSE THINGS WITH THE POP-UP YOGA THAT WE HAD THAT STARTED OUT WITH, I THINK WE HAD 10 PEOPLE DOING YOGA, AND NOW WE HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED PEOPLE, UM, SHOWING UP FOR OUR POP-UP YOGAS. UM, BUT WE REALLY WANNA EXPAND THAT MISSION AND HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE PARK AT ANY GIVEN TIME, MULTIPLE THINGS HAPPENING. SO IT MAKES PEOPLE WANNA COME TO ADDISON, UM, AND SPEND SOME TIME IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK. WE HAVE GREAT EVENTS THAT DRAW PEOPLE IN. BUT IMAGINE WHAT WE COULD DO FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT IF PEOPLE ARE COMING TO ADDISON CIRCLE PARK EVERY DAY. UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY IS, SHOULD WE HAVE A FARMER'S MARKET OCCASIONALLY? UM, COULD WE HAVE [02:05:01] AN OUTDOOR READING LIBRARY? THIS IS THE PLACE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT VISION IS AND WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE AT THE PARK. UM, SO WE'VE DEVELOPED A BUDGET OF A 205,000. IT'S A ONE TIME, UH, FEE THAT WOULD COME FROM, OR A ONE TIME COST THAT WOULD COME FROM SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS AND OUR SELF, OUR SELF SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS FUND. UM, AND WHAT WE WOULD DO IN THAT IS WE WOULD DEVELOP A VISION TO FORMULATE AND GUIDE THE FRAMEWORK FOR ACTIVATION OF THAT PARK IN ADJACENT SPACES. UM, WE WOULD INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY, WE WOULD HEAR THEIR VOICE, BUT WE WOULD ALSO BRING IN CONSULTANTS THAT HAVE WORKED ON VERY SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS LIKE THIS TO ALSO HELP OFFER THOSE IDEAS AND THEN GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ON IT. THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE DIRECT E ECONOMIC BENEFIT IMPACTS AND ATTRACT RESIDENTS OR VISITORS. IT WOULD ADDRESS SOME PROPOSED INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT DOING. AND IT WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ANALYZE. UM, SO SPECIAL EVENTS WOULD BE TIED INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING. UM, BECAUSE THEIR, UM, EVENTS HAVE BEEN SLIGHTLY IMPACT BECAUSE THEY'VE LOST SOME REAL ESTATE. AND SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE REALLY WANT TO INCLUDE THEIR VOICE, LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING AS A WAY TO SUPPORT SPECIAL EVENTS, NOT TAKE AWAY FROM THEM. AND THERE MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO CAPTURE SOME MORE LAND OR SOMETHING IN THE PARK FOR THEIR EVENTS. AND SO THERE'LL BE A VITAL PART OF THIS PROCESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. SO WHEN YOU SAY COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY, IS IT MOSTLY THE COMMUNITY AROUND THERE, UH, AROUND, UH, THE PARK ITSELF OR THE D F W COMMUNITY? I'M SORRY. THE D WHEN WHEN YOU'RE SAYING COMMUNITY, ARE YOU MEAN WHO I'M SAYING WE'RE GONNA DRAW TO THE PARK SURE. WOULD BE THE DA PEOPLE WITHIN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH REGION AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT OF, BUT SERVING ON THE COMMITTEE? SERVING ON THIS COMMITTEE. OH, THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE, UM, IT WOULD BE STAKEHOLDERS FROM THE ADDISON AREA. NOW, UM, I'D WANT TO ENGAGE A CONSULTANT 'CAUSE THEY MAY ALSO HAVE SOME GUIDANCE OF WHAT THAT COMMITTEE LOOKS LIKE. BUT WE WOULD START OUT WITH OUR ADDISON RESIDENT. WELL, IT SEEMS THAT PART OF THAT COMMUNITY WOULD BE, UH, UH, MULTIFAMILY IN THAT AREA. YES. AND THAT SEEMS TO FLY. THAT WOULD BE THE FOCUS, I WOULD THINK. AND, AND THAT, BUT THAT SEEMS TO FLY IN THE FACE OF ONE OF THE ITEMS, THE TOP FIVE ITEMS THAT WERE DROPPED FROM THE, UM, FROM YOUR LISTS THAT WERE UNFUNDED. THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. WELL, I LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, BUT SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE, UH, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. YEAH. NEIGHBORHOOD MM-HMM. SERVICES. SO JUST POINT THAT OUT. YES. AND THE, THE TEAM THAT IS WORKING ON THE T O D PROJECTS SHOULD ALSO, THERE'S SOME SYNERGY BETWEEN BOTH PROJECTS AND SO I, I ENVISION THEM HAVING A, A REPRESENTATIVE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS ALSO. HAVE YOU IDENTIFIED A CONSULTANT THAT KIND OF SPECIALIZES IN URBAN PROJECTS SIMILAR TO THAT? YES, WE HAVE. WE HAVE, OF COURSE, WE WOULD GO THROUGH AN R F P PROCESS, BUT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THOSE CONSULTANTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REACH OUT TO AND INVITE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE R F P. OKAY. AND THEN THIS IS JUST A, A PICTURE SHOWING THE PARK TODAY AND HOW IT ENGAGES THE T O D DEVELOPMENT. ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS IN THIS THAT WE'LL REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT IS THAT SOUTHERN EDGE OF ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT HAS A FENCE AND IT IS INWARDLY FOCUSED, AND NOW WE NEED IT TO BE VERY PERMEABLE BETWEEN THE PARK AND THE T O D DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THAT'LL BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS PLAN THAT WE'RE DOING. AND THEN I, I WON'T GO TO ALL THESE SLIDES, BUT REAL QUICKLY, I JUST THREW SOME IMAGES TOGETHER BECAUSE IF WE WENT OUT TO ADDISON CIRCLE PARK TODAY AND SAW, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS ALL GOING ON AT ONE TIME, THAT WOULD BE A SUCCESS FOR ME THAT WOULD SHOW THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED WHAT OUR GOAL WAS. AND THESE PICTURES ARE TAKEN FROM CLYDE WARREN PARK AND BRYANT PARK IN DISCOVERY GREEN IN HOUSTON. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF, UM, KIND OF WHERE OUR, WHERE OUR SITES ARE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTIVATING THE PARK. OKAY. UM, THIS NEXT DECISION PACKAGE REQUEST WAS ONE THAT WAS RESIDENT LED. UM, WE INCLUDED THE SHADE STRUCTURE. ORIGINALLY WHEN WE ASKED TO BUILD THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AT LAY LOCKS PARK, WHAT WE DID IS WE CONVERTED A BASKETBALL COURT TO PICKLEBALL AND THE BASKETBALL COURT IS THE WAY THAT IT'S FACING. IF WE INSTALLED PICKLEBALL COURTS THE CORRECT ORIENTATION, WE WOULD'VE ONLY BEEN ABLE TO GET TWO COURTS ON THAT BASKETBALL COURT. SO WE OPTED TO ORIENT THEM, UM, THE LEAST FAVORABLE WAY FOR PLAYING PICKLEBALL DURING THE DAY OUTDOORS. [02:10:01] BUT THAT GOT US THREE COURTS AND WE REQUESTED THAT A SHADE STRUCTURE BE INSTALLED TO OFFSET THE SUN. UM, IT PREVIOUSLY IT IS AN EXPENSIVE PRICE TAG AND PREVIOUSLY IT WAS DECIDED LET'S BUILD THE PICKLEBALL QUARTS AND SEE WHAT THE, IF THERE'S A TRUE ISSUE BECAUSE THERE ARE SURROUNDING TREES. UM, WE'VE HAD A YEAR OF USE AT THE PICKLEBALL QUARTS, THEY'RE VERY HIGH USED. UM, AND WE HAVE HAD RESIDENTS ASK US TO CONSIDER INSTALLING A SHADE STRUCTURE OVER THE COURTS. UM, EVERY YEAR THE COST GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE. THIS IS HIGHER THAN WHAT WE ASKED FOR PREVIOUSLY. UM, SO WE ARE INCLUDING THIS AS A DECISION, UM, PACKAGE REQUEST THIS YEAR. IT WOULD IMPROVE SAFETY, IT WOULD PROVIDE SHADE. I THINK WE'D GET MORE USE OUT OF THE COURTS DURING, UM, THE HEAT OF THE DAY. MAYBE NOT A WEEK, LIKE THIS WEEK, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE GETTING INTO SUMMER. UM, AND THE COST OF THAT IS $217,000. IT DOES INCLUDE, UM, REWIRING THE LIGHTING AND INTEGRATING THE LIGHTING INTO THE SHADE STRUCTURE WITH THAT PROJECT. HOW LONG DOES THAT SHADE LAST? THAT SHADE, THE SHADE FABRIC LAST ABOUT 10 TO 15 YEARS. UM, IT WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED. I DON'T HAVE THE REPLACEMENT COSTS RIGHT NOW AT HAND. I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. BUT IT IS A SMALL PERCENT PERCENTAGE OF THE COST. IT'S BUILDING THE STRUCTURE THAT SPANS THE COURT IS WHAT THE SIGNIFICANT COST IS. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT DOES TO THE SOUND? 'CAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS HAD TALKED ABOUT MM-HMM. , HOW LOUD PICKLEBALL IS MM-HMM. . SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAUSES IT TO, IF IT WILL DAMPEN IT OR IF IT WILL MAKE IT RESONATE. I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY IT DOES. IT WILL NOT MAKE IT RESONATE. UM, IT WILL ABSORB A LITTLE BIT OF THE SOUND, BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR ME TO TELL YOU IT'S GONNA RESOLVE THAT PROBLEM. HEY JANET, THIS PICTURE, IS THIS JUST A YEAH, IT'S A RANDOM CONCEPT. THIS IS FROM, I BELIEVE IT'S THE CITY OF ROCK WALL. THEY'RE PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT THEY RECENTLY, UM, BUILT WITH THE SHADE STRUCTURE OVER IT. WELL, SPECIFICALLY WHAT I'M ASKING HER IS THIS YOUR PLAN, SOMETHING SIMILAR? OUR, OUR PLAN WOULD BE SIMILAR, UM, TO HAVE A VERY NEUTRAL LIGHT COLOR ON THE TOP FOR THE SHADE STRUCTURE. UM, WE WOULD MATCH THE POLES WITH THE FENCING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. AND THEN FOR THE COURT WE WOULD, UM, WE WOULD NOT BE TOUCHING THE COURT SURFACING COLOR BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. AND THE LIGHTING YOU WOULD DO INTEGRATE THE LIGHTING WHERE IT'S RIGHT. THE CURRENT LIGHTING WE PAID MONEY FOR ON THE TENNIS COURT. THE CURRENT LIGHTING THAT IS ON THE TENNIS COURTS WOULD STAY. BUT THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE PICKLEBALL COURT, WE WOULD TAKE THOSE OFF AND WE COULD E EVEN, WE COULD EITHER SALVAGE THOSE TO REFUSE AS REPLACEMENT ON THE TENNIS COURT, OR WE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT PUTTING LIGHTING UP OVER AT THE VOLLEYBALL COURTS. THE LIGHTING THAT WE HAVE, MOVING IT TO THE VOLLEYBALL COURTS WITH THE TOWN HOMES THAT, BUT UP NEXT TO LAY LOCKS. IS THERE ANY, DID THEY HAVE ANY SAY IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE STRUCTURE AT ALL? WE DID NOT INVOLVE THEM IN ANY FEEDBACK FROM DIRECT RESIDENCE THAT SIT RIGHT THERE. YES. I'D BE INTRIGUED TO KNOW IF THEY WOULD BE ALL FOR IT OR ALL AGAINST IT. MM-HMM. , WE CAN, IF THIS IS FUNDED, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE COULD DO DO IS PUT SOME SIGNAGE OUT THERE AND ASK FOR FEEDBACK BEFORE WE START THE PROCESS. IF WE GO THAT ROUTE, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO CONSIDER ASKING FOR FEEDBACK ABOUT ADDING LIGHTS FOR VOLLEYBALL. YES, I AGREE WITH YOU. YEAH. ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE RESIDENTS. WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT SOME RESIDENTS THAT ARE VERY HAPPY THAT THERE ARE NO LIGHTS OUT THERE. YEAH. FOR VOLUME. WELL, IT SENDS 'EM HOME. I THINK WE CAN ANTICIPATE WITH THE FEEDBACK. PROBABLY NOT. RIGHT? I THINK WE KNOW WE NOT, THE NEXT CISION PACKAGE THAT WE HAVE IS CONVERT CONVERTING SPRO DOG PARK TO ARTIFICIAL TURF. UM, THE REASON THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THIS IS IT WOULD GREATLY IMPROVE THE USE OF SPRO DOG PARK. UM, ALL OF OUR DOG PARKS IN ADDISON ARE VERY SMALL COMPARED TO THE SIZE THEY SHOULD BE FOR THE AMOUNT OF USE THAT THEY GET. UM, IN FACT, I DID A COMPARISON ONE TIME AND OUR DOG PARKS ARE ABOUT HALF THE SIZE OF OTHER AREA DOG PARKS, BUT WE GET DOUBLE, IF NOT MORE, THE USE OF OUR DOG PARKS. AND SO THAT REALLY IS PUTTING A HUGE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE TURF AND THE DOG PARKS. AND SO WHAT THAT CAUSES IS WE CLOSE THE DOG PARKS FOR WET CONDITIONS. WE'VE GOT HIGH CLAY SOILS THAT CAN PACKED WHEN THEY'RE USED WHEN THEY'RE WET. AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, IT STARTS TO KILL THE TURF. UM, AND WE GET A LOT OF PUSHBACK BECAUSE [02:15:01] PEOPLE SEE A DOG PARK WITH A LOCKED GATE AND, AND THEY REALLY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T HAVE YARDS AND THEY RELY ON THE DOG PARKS FOR THEIR DOGS TO BURN SOME ENERGY UP AND EVERYTHING. AND IT DOES CAUSE A LOT OF HEARTBURN. UM, WE ALSO CLOSE THE DOG PARKS FOR WEEKLY MAINTENANCE. WE DO THAT TO ALLOW THE DOG PARK. NOT ONLY DO WE COME AND MOW, BUT WE ALLOW THE DOG PARK KIND OF A, SOME BREATHING ROOM FOR THEM TO GET, YOU KNOW, KIND OF REBOUND A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN WE DO ALL OF THAT. AND WE STILL HAVE TO COME BACK IN THE SPRING AND RE TURF A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE DOG PARKS AROUND THE ENTRANCE. AND SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS A ONE-TIME COST OF $235,287. THIS WOULD PUT ARTIFICIAL TURF DOWN FOR BOTH THE LARGE AND THE SMALL DOG PARK. BUT WHAT IT WOULD ALSO DO, UM, IS IT WOULD, AND THIS SHOWS A REOCCURRING COST, BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY A NET COST OF SAVINGS FROM US NOT MOWING THE DOG PARK AND US NOT SODDING. THAT PUTS THAT REOCCURRING COST REALLY TO, I THINK IT'S ABOUT $4,600. UM, AND WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING IS WE WOULD START TO PUT MONEY INTO A FUND BECAUSE THE DOG PARK TURF WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED IN EIGHT TO 10 YEARS. AND SO WE WOULD, WE ARE PLANNING THAT WE WOULD REPLACE IT IN EIGHT YEARS AND WE WOULD'VE ALREADY HAD MONEY ACCRUED. SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS NUMBER TOO. CAN YOU PUT OUT FOR THAT NUMBER? THAT NUMBER? UM, I HAD TWO TURF MANUFACTURERS THAT ARE ON BUYBOARD. GIVE US A QUOTE. AND THEY WERE VERY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER. AND SO WE TOOK THEIR, THE AVERAGE OF THEIR NUMBER AND THEN ADDED SOME CONTINGENCY TO IT, IS HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER. OBJECT CONSIDERATION, WHEAT CONTROL AND MAINTENANCE COSTS. BECAUSE THERE ARE COSTS WITH THOSE. THERE ARE COSTS WITH IT. AND WE DID INCLUDE THAT AND WE WOULD NOT, UM, ABANDON THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM THAT'S IN THOSE DOG PARKS. SO THERE'S NOT A WATER SAVINGS THERE. THERE'S PROBABLY SOME, BUT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM SO IT KIND OF FLUSHES THE TURF AND KEEPS IT CLEAN. WELL, BUT HAVING, I HAVE ARTIFICIAL TURF, YOU HAVE WEEDS THAT COME UP. YES. SO YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS WEEDED CONTROL. UM, YES, WE HAVE. OTHERWISE IT'S GONNA LOOK AWFUL. WE HAVE THAT PLANNED FOR IT IS INCLUDED IN THIS. THAT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T, UH, THERE'S NO BARRIER TO KEEP THAT FROM REDUCING. IT'S THE FACT THAT PUT ONE IN IT DOESN'T WORK. IT DOESN'T LAST, IT DOESN'T LAST UHUH WELL, AND IT'S THE FACT THAT THE, UM, INFILL MATERIAL THAT KEEPS THE TURF KIND OF STANDING UP AS THE WIND BLOWS AND, AND IT RAINS THAT SEDIMENT KIND OF BUILDS UP IN THAT INFILL MATERIAL AND THEN YOU HAVE WEEDED SEEDS THAT BLOW AND IT'S THE PERFECT CONDITION FOR THEM. SO THE BARRIER IS JUST CATCHING THINGS FROM BELOW AND NOT THINGS THAT ARE BROUGHT IN FROM THE WIND. SO IT'S GOING ON TOP, NOT THROUGH YEAH, NO, IT GOES THROUGH, YEAH, IT GOES, TRUST ME ON THIS. YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. OKAY. , I PULLED A LOT OF WEEDED OUT OF MINE. YEAH. NEED THOSE BIDS TO BOARD MEMBERS. UM, BY, BY BOARD IS A CO A COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT PLATFORM THAT WE USE THAT IS A PRE-NEGOTIATED PRICE. SO IT'S TECHNICALLY ALREADY BID. AND SO WE, WE REACHED OUT TO TWO FIRMS THAT HAD BUYBOARD PRICING TO GET THE PRICING FOR THIS. THERE. IS THERE A SIMPLE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT COVERS JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY? 'CAUSE I'M IN THE GOLF BUSINESS AND I JUST WORKED WITH THE PGA BRICO PEOPLE IS THEY USED A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ASSET TO MM-HMM. FOR THEIR PART THREE COURSE. SO JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, I DID NOT CALCULATE THAT, BUT I CAN GET THAT TO YOU. YEAH. 'CAUSE I HAVE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE COST, THE PJ FRISCO PEOPLE, WHAT THEY PAID VERSUS THAT FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, ONE OF, WELL, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT MM-HMM. JUST THE SUN, JUST BAKING THAT ARTIFICIAL TURF AND THEN THAT YOU JUST CAN'T GET ON IT. PAUSE OR, YOU KNOW, WALKING WITH BARE FEET AND SO FORTH. SO HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT SHADE OR TREES OR, IT IS A CONCERN OF OURS TOO, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE DRAWBACK OF ARTIFICIAL TURF ON A DOG PARK. UM, ONE THING I WANT TO TELL YOU IS THE ARTIFICIAL TURF THAT YOU'RE USING ON A GOLF COURSE IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN AN ADULT DOG PARK. AND SO THOSE PRICES ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. UM, BUT WHAT WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT IS THERE THE, IT'S GETTING BETTER WHERE IT DOESN'T GET AS HOT. UM, IT'S THE INFILL MATERIAL THAT THEY'RE USING AS A NATURAL CLAY PRO PRODUCT AND IT KIND OF HELPS DISSIPATE THE HEAT A LITTLE BETTER. BUT IT'S STILL A CONCERN OF OURS. AND SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THAT WE WOULD USE SOME OF OUR TREE MITIGATION FUNDS THAT WE HAVE TO PLANT ADDITIONAL TREES IN THE DOG PARK BEFORE WE DO THE TURF PROJECT. WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HOPE WE CONSIDER IS, IS WHEN I THINK OF OUR, YOU KNOW, WE START HAVING DOG PARK CONVERSATIONS AND INEVITABLY [02:20:01] I HEAR SOMEBODY, UH, TALK ABOUT SOME AWESOME DOG PARK OUT IN THE COUNTRY, UM, NOT REALLY URBAN MM-HMM. LIKE, LIKE OUR SITUATION WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE A, A TON OF LAND TO WORK WITH. SO, UM, I ALWAYS KIND OF LOOK, LOOKED TO LIKE CLY HO PARK MM-HMM. SOMETHING MORE SIMILAR THAN ALL THESE OTHER COMPARISONS I'VE HEARD OF. WE, WE LOOKED AT CLIVE WARREN PARK MM-HMM. AND THEY HAVE ARTIFICIAL TURF. RIGHT. AND, AND THEY'VE GOT TREES AND TREES AND THEY'VE GOT SHADE AND THEY'VE GOT ULS AND THAT'S THAT KIND OF THING. BUT, UM, ARE, HAVE WE LOOKED AT THAT? AND I KNOW IT'S EARLY, THIS HASN'T BEEN APPROVED, BUT HAVE YOU, HAVE WE CONSIDERED SOME OF THAT. WE LOOKED AT CLYDE WARREN. WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE EARTH FORMS THAT THEY HAVE. UM, BECAUSE OUR DOG PARK IS SO SMALL AND SOME PEOPLE LIKE THEIR DOGS TO JUST RUN. WE FELT LIKE THOSE WERE BARRIERS. BUT WE DID LOOK AT THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY DID BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPOT ON. IT'S AN URBAN DOG PARK AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE AT SPRO IS AN URBAN DOG PARK. AND A LOT OF THE FEATURES THAT THEY IMPLEMENTED WERE TO ADDRESS THAT CONDITION OF HEAVY USE. UM, NOW ONE THING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS DO SOME PUBLIC INPUT BEFORE WHERE WE PUT SOME SIGNAGE OUT AND GET THE DOG PARK USERS TO GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT. AND SO IF THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR KIND OF CHANGING THE LAND FORM A LITTLE BIT, THAT DEFINITELY IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT. UM, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY IN THIS BUDGET THAT COULD ABSORB THAT, BUT WE COULDN'T DO A LOT OF IT. UM, OKAY. I, AND I HOPE WE GO, GO THAT ROUTE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. AND I, AND I THINK THIS BEING A DOG PARK THAT WE COULD GET MAYBE SOME OUTSIDE SUPPORT. OKAY. FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS, TREES, MONEY, WHAT HAVE YOU. OKAY. THE ONE THING IS THE TREES THAT WE WOULD EARMARK TO PLANT, UM, HAVE COME FROM TREE MITIGATION FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN PAID FROM DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. AND SO THAT WOULD BE MONEY THAT TECHNICALLY ISN'T MONEY. THAT IS OUR, IT'S OUR MONEY NOW, BUT IT'S NOT COMING FROM OUR GENERAL FUND OR SELF-FUNDED PROJECTS. IT WOULD SUPPLEMENT, IT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THIS AMOUNT THAT I HAVE HERE, YOU KNOW, THE TREES THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, ARE THEY, I'M LOOKING AT A PLAN ON THE PARK. ARE, ARE YOU SUGGESTING TREES IN THE FENCE? INTERIOR INTERIOR. IN THE INTERIOR. INTERIOR TO THE DOG PARK TO HELP SHADE THE TURF. AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT NOW. WE DON'T HAVE TREES THERE NOW. WE HAVE A FEW TREES THERE ON THE PERIMETER. UM, WE HAVE TREES ON THE PERIMETER AND THEN WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF INTERIOR TREES THAT THEY'RE ON THE SMALL SIDE. UM, ON THE SMALL SIDE IT'S ON THE PERIMETER AND ON THE LAR LARGE DOG PARK, IT'S ON THE PERIMETER. AND THEN THERE ARE SOME IN THE CENTER WHERE AROUND THE SEATING AREA WHERE THE PET FOUNTAIN IS. MM-HMM. . OKAY. SO THAT $29,000 RECURRING COST, DID YOU SAY THAT WOULD, IS MORE LIKE $4,600? YEAH. AFTER SOME COST SAVINGS. MM-HMM. , I HAVE TURF ALSO. AND IT'S THE BEST THING EVER. SO, UH, I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD MOVE ON THAT. UH, I DON'T THINK THAT THE HEAT'S GONNA BE THE PROBLEM. UH, I MEAN THE TREES WITH THAT IN THEIR WORKING DUST. 'CAUSE IF IT'S REALLY HOT, PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA BE OUT THERE. THAT'S, YOU'VE GOTTA COUNT FOR THAT. I'M, I'M GLAD YOU'RE DOING THIS. THANK YOU. CALL. HEY JENNA, JUST REAL QUICK ON THAT, UH, YOU SAID, UH, YOU'RE GONNA KEEP THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM ACTIVE. YES. IS THAT GONNA BE ENOUGH TO KEEP IT CLEAN OR DOES IT NEED TO BE POWER WASH FROM TIME TO TIME? THAT'S FOR THE MOST PART. THAT'S ENOUGH TO KEEP IT CLEAN. WE MAY PERIODICALLY HAVE TO GO IN AND DO A LITTLE REFRESH. WE DO HAVE A POWER WASHER AND WE HAVE A CREW THAT DOES PROJECTS LIKE THAT ON THURSDAYS. UM, SO WE CAN ADDRESS THAT. WE ALSO WILL NEED TO GO IN AND ADD ADDITIONAL INFILL AND RAKE IT. AND SO THERE IS, IT'S NOT MAINTENANCE FREE. THERE IS SOME MAINTENANCE TO IT, BUT THAT'S BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS. THANK YOU. AND SO THE IRRIGATION IS ALSO FOR THE, UM, EXPANSION AND CONTRACTION OF THE SOIL AS WELL FOR THAT AND JUST KIND OF WASHING OUT THE SOIL TO KEEP IT FRESH. IS THERE, IS THERE A PARK LO CLOSE BY WHERE WE GO TAKE A LOOK AT? UM, THE FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MY MIND WOULD BE CLYDE WARREN OR SOME OF THE OTHER DALLAS DOG PARKS THAT ARE IN THE KIND OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA OF DALLAS. THEY ALL HAVE ARTIFICIAL TURF IN THEM. INTERESTING. A LOT OF OUR CLOSE NEIGHBORS HAVE THREE ACRE DOG PARK WITH MORE TURF, AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ARTIFICIAL TURF. THEY DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE IT. RIGHT. BUT IT, SOME DO. THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD, BUT MM-HMM. , I THOUGHT I FIGURED THAT THEY WOULD ROPE OFF AREAS. YEAH. WE'RE, WE'RE MORE SENSITIVE TO IT JUST BECAUSE OF HOW SMALL OUR DOG PARK IS. BUT THAT IS A PRETTY COMMON PRACTICE FOR CITIES. OKAY. SO OUR NEXT DECISION PACKAGE IS ONE THAT WE RECENTLY BROUGHT TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION OR FOR DISCUSSION ON. UM, AND IT WAS TO COMMISSION THE INSTALLATION OF A PUBLIC SAFETY ART INSTALLATION. UM, THIS WOULD REFILL COUNCIL [02:25:01] DIRECTION TO STAFF TO INSTALL A TRIBUTE TO PUBLIC SAFETY. THIS IS THE COST TO FABRICATE THE SCULPTURE AND THE INSTALLATION OF THE SCULPTURE, UM, WOULD BE COVERED BY THE T O D DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S A PARK PROPERTY THAT'S BEING BUILT AT SPECTRUM IN ARAPAHOE. AND AS THAT PARK WOULD, IS DEVELOPED, THE BASE AND FOUNDATION OF THE SCULPTURE WOULD BE INCLUDED WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT. UM, AND I THINK WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS, WE MENTIONED THAT, THAT THIS GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT PARK AREA TO BECOME SOMETHING THAT IS A PARK THAT IS A TRIBUTE TO PUBLIC SAFETY. SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST A SCULPTURE INSTALLATION. OKAY. AND THEN WE HAVE INCLUDED, UM, A DECISION PACKAGE FOR THE N T T A. UM, NOT ONLY THE FRONTAGE ROADS THAT WE CURRENTLY MAINTAIN THE LANDSCAPING FOR, BUT ALSO CREATING A GATEWAY ENTRANCE AT THE TOLLWAY AND BELTLINE ROAD. UM, WHAT THIS PACKAGE INCLUDES IS SCHEMATIC DESIGN FOR THE PEDESTRIAN FOR A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING THAT WOULD GET YOU ACROSS BELTWAY, OUR BELT LINE, UM, OVER THE TOLLWAY. THAT'S A HUGE HINDRANCE FOR PEDESTRIANS IN CONNECTIVITY. UM, THE PHOTO THAT I'VE SHOWN RIGHT HERE IS A PROJECT THAT WAS DONE IN PLANO AT LEGACY THAT SHOWS HOW YOU CAN CREATE THAT SAFE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING THROUGH A TRAFFIC ENVIRONMENT AND HAVE IT LOOK WELCOMING AND FRIENDLY. WE ALSO ENVISIONED THAT THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING WITH THE DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT SAYS ADDISON, THAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM THE TOLL ROAD AND YOU WOULD SEE FROM BELT LINE. SO IT WOULD BE PART OF OUR BRANDING STRATEGY WITH OUR GATEWAY SIGNS. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT IS TO CREATE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR LANDSCAPING AND PAVING ENHANCEMENTS ALONG THE N T T A FRONTAGE ROADS. UM, SO ADDISON CURRENTLY HAS A LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH N T T A AND THE CITY OF DALLAS TO MAINTAIN THE LANDSCAPING IN THOSE AREAS. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE LAST COUPLE OF FREEZES THAT WE HAVE HAVE SEVERELY IMPACTED THAT LANDSCAPING. A LOT OF IT WAS LOST AND NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. WE ALSO HAVE SOME LESSONS LEARNED WHERE THERE'S SOME AREAS WHERE CARS REPEATEDLY HIT , THE LANDSCAPING. AND SO MAYBE IN THOSE AREAS WE SHOULD PUT SOME PAVING BACK. AND SO, UM, THE OTHER COMPONENT OF THAT WOULD BE TO DEVELOP THE DESIGN DOCUMENTS FOR THOSE COMPONENTS. THE PRICE TAG ON THAT IS $156,000 AND IT WOULD BE A ONE-TIME COST FROM SELF-FUNDED. CAN I ADD SOME CONTEXT TO THAT? YES. I THINK AN OBVIOUS QUESTION WOULD BE, WELL, WE DON'T OWN THAT PART OF BELTLINE RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PART OF ADDISON, IT'S PART OF DALLAS. I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS, AND IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS OF HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH DALLAS, UM, ASKING THEM TO BASICALLY TAKE OVER BELTLINE. WE'RE HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION ON MONTFORD TO JUST, WE'LL JUST TAKE IT, WE'LL TAKE MONTFORD, WE'LL TAKE BELTLINE. WE UNDERSTAND THE COSTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED AND THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING WITH THEM ADMINISTRATIVELY. IF WE GET SUPPORT FROM THEM, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL BRING IT TO COUNCIL FOR A POLICY DECISION. BUT THIS WOULD BE CONTINGENT ON THAT US HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH DALLAS DO THE FULL IMPACT OF WHAT JAN'S TALKING ABOUT. UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS THAT WOULD COME TO THAT MORE THAN JUST THIS BRIDGE. IT WOULD HELP OUR, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSE TIMES. IT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE DE DECIDE THE FUTURE OF THOSE ROADS AS WE HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS ON CELESTIAL AND MUMFORD. IT WOULD GIVE US CONTROL OVER THOSE. SO A MUCH BIGGER CONVERSATION. AND THIS WOULD BE CONTINGENT ON US GETTING PROGRESS WITH THAT. BUT WE DO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. AND WE, WE SEE THIS AS SOMETHING THAT IF IT'S IN THE BUDGET AND WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH DALLAS AND WE GET TO THAT POINT, WE CAN AT LEAST START THE PROCESS. ARE YOU ENVISIONING THE NORTH SIDE OR THE SOUTH SIDE OF BELTLINE? AND, AND HOW ELEVATED? I MEAN, BECAUSE THE CARS, I'M TRYING TO PICTURE IN MY MIND WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES WITH THIS THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO SOLVE, ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE DESIGN DESIGN PROCESS. BUT CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THE ROAD, UM, THAT'S THERE IS SIX INCHES LOWER THAN THE STANDARD NOW THAT N T T A IS BUILDING BACK TO THE CROSSING. AND SO IF WE BUILD ANYTHING THAT'S AN EXTENSION, IT NEEDS TO BE SIX INCHES TALLER AND FIT THAT NEW CRITERIA. AND SO WE'VE GOT A FEW GRADING CHALLENGES TO WORK OUT. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SOUTH SIDE, WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE SIDE THAT THIS IS MORE FEASIBLE. THAT'S ALSO THE SIDE WHERE WE ARE HEAVY ON ADDISON BUSINESSES ON EITHER SIDE. AND SO THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE WORK. BUT I HATE TO LOCK US IN WITHOUT HAVING A CONSULTANT ON BOARD YET EITHER AS WE START TO LOOK INTO THOSE. 'CAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE A VERY DETAILED PROJECT THAT WE LOOK AT TO GET IT RIGHT. JIM, WHEN I, WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE SLIDES MM-HMM. , UM, IN MY MIND, I I I LOOKED AT BELTLINE. I THOUGHT THAT WAS WRONG. I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THIS WAS ARAPAHO. OKAY. UM, FOR THE COTTON BELT, [02:30:01] UH, TRAIL. UM, AND ARE WE, ARE WE WORKING ON THAT OR IS THAT, SO THE CROSSING FOR THE COTTON BELT TRAIL IS PART OF, UM, THE PROJECT THAT COG IS OVERSEEING THE DESIGN. AND SO THAT CROSSING IS DIFFERENT FROM THIS ONE. OKAY. AND THE DIFFERENCE IN, IN ARE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING HERE AND, AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ALONG THE MAJOR COTTON BELT MM-HMM. TRAIL, THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE PROXIMITY. RIGHT. THEY ARE SOMEWHAT CLOSE. UM, BUT THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE. AND IF YOU ARE USING THE COTTON BELT TRAIL, YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO ACCESS THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THE ADDISON CIRCLE DISTRICT. UM, WHERE IF YOU'RE ON BELT LINE AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GET OVER TO WHOLE FOODS OR THE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE ON VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, UM, THIS WOULD PROVIDE THAT CONNECTIVITY TO CONNECT THAT. WE ALSO HAVE HAD RESIDENTS IN, UM, EAST ADDISON THAT HAVE ASKED FOR A WAY TO CROSS THE TOLLWAY. UM, AND SO THIS WOULD BE THE SHORTEST ROUTE FOR THEM TO CROSS THE TOLLWAY AND GET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, OF IT. AND DO WE KNOW WHAT, UH, WHAT THE DESIGN MIGHT LOOK LIKE, UM, RELATED TO FOG RELATED TO THE COTTON BELT? UH, PEDESTRIAN CREW, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT YET. WE HAVE THE PLANT, WELL, THE REASON WE DON'T RIGHT NOW, THEIR DESIGN IS CONCRETE PAVING. IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY AMENITIES IN IT LIKE YOU WOULD SEE ON A TYPICAL ADDISON TRAIL SYSTEM. AND SO WE WILL BE LOOKING IN FUTURE YEARS FOR FUNDS FOR US TO COME IN AND DESIGN THE AMENITIES THAT WOULD BE BUILT INTO THE COTTON BE TRAIL. SO IT WOULD HAVE THOSE AESTHETIC FEATURES, IT WOULD HAVE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE, IT WOULD HAVE LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING AND SEATING AREAS. BUT THOSE THINGS ARE NOT INCLUDED INTO THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW. THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS. UH, CAN I PICK YES ON THERE? SO STICKING WITH THE, UH, UH, CON UH, THE TRAIN, UH, TRACKS GOING ACROSS THE TOLLWAY, THERE'RE GONNA BE TWO OF THEM. WILL, THE, THE TRAIL WILL BE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE, OF THE BRIDGE THAT THE TRAILS, THE CROSS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TRACKS. YES. AND THAT'S GREEN. THAT'S AT LEAST A 15 FOOT WIDE TRAIL. IF I, IT'S 12 FOOT WIDE TRAIL. OH, IS IT 12? MM-HMM. TO MEET AASHTO STANDARDS AND THEN IT HAS TWO FEET OF CLEARANCE ON EITHER SIDE OF IT. IT'S GONNA BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT, HOW THAT BLENDS WITH THE TRACK, WITH THE TRACKS THERE AND THE, AND THE PROTECTION THAT'S AFFORDED. THEREBY, UH, FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, THEY WILL BE SEPARATED. THEY'LL BE SEPARATED. MM-HMM. THE TRAIL ON THE TRACKS. YES. YEAH. YES. UH, SO GOING BACK TO THE ITEM RIGHT HERE MM-HMM. , AGAIN, NOT SURE IF IT'S NORTH OR SOUTH, BUT SOUNDS LIKE SOUTH IS SOUTH IS OUR PREFERRED AND LOOKS THE MOST FEASIBLE RIGHT NOW AND SOUTH AGAINST THE UH, UH, USING THE TOLLWAY, THE TOW WAY FEATURE? OR IS IT SOMETHING WE ARE, I WOULD SAY ALLOP AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THE DESIGN. ALL OPT ON THE TABLE IF YOU WANT TO GET IT, IF YOU WANT TO CLEAR TO THE POINT OF DO YOU NEED A U-TURN THERE? SURE. CAN YOU GET RID OF THAT U-TURN? I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BE. RIGHT. I I'M SAYING ALL OPTIONS WOULD BE ON THE TABLE AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO HAVE THIS STUDY. RIGHT. AND I WOULD ALSO, I DON'T THINK IT'S PROJECTING PEDESTRIAN TRAVEL. I THINK, MY GUESS IS THIS IS THE MOST PEDESTRIAN TRAVEL ROAD ON ALL OF NORTH DALLAS TOLLWAY ALREADY. I MEAN, JUST STAND THERE ANY DAY AND YOU SEE THE FOLKS COMING FROM THE HOTELS GOING TO, AND IT'S DANGEROUS. I, AND IT'S NOT, I ALWAYS THINK THAT, SO THAT'S THAT. I DON'T THINK IT'S PROJECTING WHAT COULD COME. IT'S ALREADY THERE. IT'S JUST HOW DO WE YEAH. AND, AND HOW DO WE ADVERTISE ADDISON, IT'S AN ENTRANCE TO THE TOWN. HOW DO WE MAKE IT WORK? YEAH. BUT IT'S, BUT AS JANNA SAID, IT IS GONNA BE COMPLICATED. WE, WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ILLUSIONS THAT IT'S AN EASY SOLUTION. RIGHT. AND, AND WHAT WE ARE SHOWING HERE BASICALLY IS A PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR, BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY. UM, BUT MONEY'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS THE MONEY ASPECT TO IT TO CREATE SOME SORT OF LIKE LITTLE MINI GATEWAY IN THAT AREA AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT WIDER. BUT WE DEFINITELY WANNA GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS AS WE DEVELOP WHAT THAT VISION IS. 'CAUSE THAT INCLUDES INPUT FROM EVERYBODY TO SET THAT STANDARD. DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT DESIGN WILL CONSIDER THAT POTENTIAL OPTION? YES. WE WILL GATHER FEEDBACK ON IT AND, AND UNDERSTAND THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH HERE. THIS SOLVES THE CONNECTIVITY PROBLEM. UM, BUT WE COULD DO A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT HERE'S THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. WELL, WE WERE, UM, KICKING AROUND THE IDEA FOR A DECK PART LIKE FIVE WARREN, ONE OF THE, A LOT OF MAJOR ISSUES, BUT ONE OF THEM WAS ENCORE TRANSMISSION LINES. MM-HMM. , WHICH IS ON, ON THE WHOLE SIDE EAST SIDE, UH, WHOLE FOODS SIDE, [02:35:01] EAST SIDE. OKAY. SO THE NEXT DECISION PACKAGE IS THE CAPITAL DECISION PACKAGE ITEM. IT IS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN. IT'S FOR THE BELTWAY DRIVE TRAIL IN GREEN SPACE. UM, THIS WOULD START ON MARSH LANE AND GO DOWN BELTWAY. IT WOULD TRANS, UM, ONCE YOU GET TO LA GRANDE, IT WOULD GO INTO THE GREEN SPACE THAT IS ON THE, UM, JUST SOUTH OF THE ADDISON GROVE PROJECT. AND THEN THE BIKE LANES WOULD CROSS MIDWAY AND CURVE UP BELTWAY UNTIL IT, UM, TERMINATES AT BELTLINE. THE REASON THAT THIS, UM, BIKE LANE WAS IDENTIFIED ON THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN IS BECAUSE THERE'S SOME HUGE CONNECTIVITY, UM, ISSUES THAT ARE SOLVED. THE FIRST THING IS ON MARSH LANE, IF YOU TRAVEL ON BELTWAY ACROSS MARSH LANE, YOU ACTUALLY CONNECT INTO THE CITY OF FARMER'S BRANCH. THEY HAVE AN ON STREET, UM, SHARED BIKE LANE. AND SO THIS TIES INTO THEIR FACILITY. AND THEN EVENTUALLY WE ARE TRYING TO CONNECT UP TO THE COTTON BELT TRAIL WHERE A BELTWAY INTERSECTS WITH BELTLINE. UM, THERE IS SOME POTENTIAL TO PERHAPS GRAB SOME LAND FROM DALLAS WATER UTILITIES AND HAVE THAT TRAIL CONNECT UP INTO THE COTTON BELT TRAIL. UM, AND SO, UH, THAT'S THE PURPOSE FOR, FOR IDENTIFYING THIS AS OUR FIRST BIKE LANE PROJECT. UM, COUNCIL CURRENTLY HAS APPROVED A CONTRACT FOR, UM, FUNDING TO DEVELOP THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS FUNDS TO BUILD THOSE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. IT WOULD BE, UM, 2.197, UM, MIL, 500 OR $2.1 MILLION. AND 1.4 MILLION OF THAT WOULD BE A REIMBURSEMENT FROM DART FOR SOME FUNDS THAT THEY SAID HAVE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE TO THE TOWN. UM, THIS WOULD ALSO REFURBISH THE GREEN SPACE THAT IS SOUTH OF ADDISON GROVE AND TURN IT INTO A PARK SPACE THAT CAN BE USED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT ALSO IN THIS COST. UM, CURRENTLY WE ARE AT 30% DESIGN. WE ANTICIPATE HAVING THOSE PLANS TO OUR OFFICE BY THE END OF AUGUST. UM, AND OUR CONSULTANT IS WORKING ON LOOKING AT OUR INTERSECTIONS AND OUR TRANSITIONS WHERE WE HAVE BIKE LANES AND HOW WE, UM, IMPLEMENT TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES TO IMPROVE SAFETY IN THAT AREA. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE, JIM? I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THIS, UH, THIS CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PLAN AVAILABLE FOR US TO LOOK AT? I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. UM, I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE IT. EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY. UM, CIA HAS IT. YES. OH, YOU DO IT UP THERE? WHERE THE FRONT DRIVE IS THAT? HERE IT IS ON THIS, THIS ONE. OH, NOW THIS IS THE ONE I GAVE YOU. IS IT? OH, THAT HAS THE CHARLES MASTER PLAN ON IT BECAUSE I SENT YOU THE, SORRY. OKAY. LET ME SEE REAL QUICK. IF WE CAN GET IT ON BATHROOM BREAK. POSSIBLE HANGING THERE. STOP DRINKING. WE WE'RE HARD STOP AT EIGHT. SO IT WAS THE OTHER DIRECTION. STOP AT EIGHT MORNING. THAT WAS OUR, THAT WAS OUR GO ALL GO ALL THE WAY. 10 O' O'CLOCK, WHATEVER. MIDNIGHT. SO I DO HAVE THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT WE MADE THAT IS PULLED FROM THAT DOCUMENT AND IT HAS THE ZOOMED IN LOCATIONS. WOULD THAT SUFFICE? WELL, LET'S TRY, LET'S TRY. I WANTED TO, I WANTED TO TOUCH BASE A LITTLE BIT ON THIS PROJECT MM-HMM. AND THE, I THINK IT WAS THE LAST THING YOU MENTIONED WAS THE TRAFFIC CALMING CONCERN. UH, IT ITEMS MM-HMM. . SO I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE, UH, CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE ON THIS STREET CURRENTLY AT SOME OF THE INTERSECTIONS SPECIFICALLY, UH, ON THE EAST END, UH, JUST WEST OF, OF, UM, MIDWAY. CAN WE ENLARGE THAT? MM-HMM. . SO THIS LOCATION IS THE GREEN SPACE AT ADDISON GROVE. AND IF YOU'LL LOOK ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THERE'S UM, IT MARKS WHERE LA GRAND YES. AROUND AND SHOW. YES. SO LA GRAND IS RIGHT HERE IT IS. YEP. AND THEN, UM, THE ON STREET BY [02:40:01] PLACE. IT'S COMING AROUND THIS WAY. OKAY. AND THEN IT COMES UP INTO THE PARK. SO HERE AT LA GRANDE DRIVE, WE HAVE A, A THREE-WAY STOP AND WE'VE BEEN THAT INTERSECTION AND THERE MAY BE OTHERS, BUT THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION HAS BEEN CHALLENGED WITH, WITH, UH, PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH IT. UH, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MORE CHALLENGING THAN THE OTHERS ALONG THIS ROUTE. UH, CAN WE, CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE OR MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE GIVE US AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S HAPPENED AT THAT INTERSECTION? SURE. AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TRAFFIC CALLING OR HOW IT, HOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME MORE, UM, UH, LESS RUNNING OF THE SIGNS. SO TWO THINGS. DO YOU WANT US FIRST TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE ON THE DESIGN PLANS TO BUILD OFF OF WHAT WAS HERE AND TO ADD MORE TRAFFIC ING? OR WOULD YOU LIKE SHANNON TO SPEAK TO WHAT PUBLIC WORKS IS CURRENTLY IMPLEMENTED? LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTED SO THEN WE CAN OVERLAY IT ON THIS. ARE YOU THE MAYOR COUNCIL AGAIN? UH, SO TOLD YOU . NO, I FIGURED THIS WAS COMING. SO, SO THE INTERSECTION OF THE GRAND AND BELTWAY IS, HAS BEEN KIND OF AN ONGOING ISSUE AND WE'VE IMPLEMENTED A LOT OF THINGS TO TRY TO HELP WITH COMPLIANCE WITH A STOP SIGN. IT STARTED WITH ADDING A STOP SIGN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD FACING TO THE WEST TO HELP INCREASE VISIBILITY. WE HAD ADDED SOME ADVANCED WARNING SIGNS. STOP AHEAD. WE JUST RECENTLY SUPPLEMENTED THOSE WITH STOP AHEAD ON THE PAVEMENT. WE'VE DONE REFLECTIVE THERMOPLASTIC STOP BARS AT THOSE STOP SIGNS, AND WE'VE ALSO INSTALLED THOSE CERAMIC JIGGLE BARS, YOU KNOW, TO HELP YOU, YOU RUN OVER 'EM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE THERE. AND WE'VE ALSO ADDED REFLECTIVE, UM, STRIPING ON THE POLE TOO. I, I THINK FROM A ENGINEERING DESIGN STANDPOINT, WE'VE, PEOPLE KNOW THE STOP SIGNS THERE. UH, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING THROUGH IT NOW ARE WILLFULLY DOING IT. UM, PART OF THE ISSUE IS THE CROSS SECTION OF BELTWAY. IT'S WIDE. I'VE LANDED ON RUNWAYS NARROWER THAN THIS STREET. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS PEOPLE JUST TEND TO WANT TO GO DOWN THROUGH THERE. UM, THERE'S A WEIRD PHENOMENON WITH A LOT OF STOP SIGNS ON STREETS. WHEN YOU HAVE 'EM IN MULTIPLE PLACES, PEOPLE WILL TEND TO IGNORE THEM AND THEY'LL TEND TO DRIVE FASTER TO MAKE UP THEIR LOST TIME TOO. SO WE, WE'VE TRIED A LOT OF THINGS TO, TO HELP ENSURE COMPLIANCE THERE ON SOME OF THE OTHER INTERSECTIONS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE ABOUT TO IMPLEMENT SOME STRATEGIES TO SEE HOW THEY WORK. AND WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME TRAFFIC CALMING. ONE OF THEM IS CANO AND, UH, PROTON. SURE. WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE INSTALLING MEDIANS IN THERE TO HELP NARROW THE STREET A LITTLE BIT. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S A 32 FOOT WIDE CROSS SECTION THAT'S REALLY WIDE. IT'S OPEN. PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE JUST GOING REALLY QUICKLY. SO WHEN WE GET CLOSE TO THESE INTERSECTIONS, WE'RE GONNA NARROW IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. IT'S STILL GONNA BE 12 FOOT WIDE. IT'S STILL GONNA BE A STANDARD LANE, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA FEEL AS OPEN. WE'LL PUT ANOTHER STOP SIGN THERE TOO. SO, SO ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED ABOUT THE FEATURES THAT I'VE NOTICED ON THIS INTERSECTION IS THAT THERE ARE NO CROSSWALKS, PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS, BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE DO HAVE SOME, UH, STOP SIGNS, UH, THROUGHOUT TOWN WHERE WE, WHERE WE ALSO HAVE A CROSSWALK MM-HMM. , EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO PAVEMENT SIDEWALK THAT THE CROSSWALK GOES TO, IS THAT, I, I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY. I WOULD TRUST YOU ON THAT. WELL, SO THE THOUGHT HERE IS IT, IT, WOULD IT BE FEASIBLE TO PUT CROSSWALKS THERE SO THAT THAT'LL, THAT MAY HELP, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE TRAFFIC ON THIS. SO THAT SPEAKS TO ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE NON-COMPLIANCE THROUGH HERE IS IN ORDER TO DO A INSTALL, A STOP SIGN PROPERLY, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT ARE OUTLINED BY THE MANUAL AND UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES. THIS DOESN'T MEET ANY OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT LEADS PEOPLE TO SUBCONSCIOUSLY THINK IT'S A STOP SIGN FOR NO REASON AND THEY JUST BLOW THROUGH THEM. RIGHT. SO THIS INTERSECTION WOULD NOT NORMALLY WARRANT A STOP SIGN, BUT IT'S THERE. WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT AWAY. SO PART OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING WITH JANICE TEAM ON THE BELTWAY TRAIL PROGRAM IS MODIFYING THE DESIGN OF THIS TRAIL TO IMPLEMENT TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES HERE. AND JANET, IF YOU WANNA TALK THROUGH THAT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE WORKING THROUGH THIS THAT LOOKS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ON THE KIND OF REVIEW YOU SAID THAT WE'RE AT IS THIS STRIPING THAT YOU SEE HERE THAT, UM, IS ADJACENT TO WHERE THE TRAIL GOES INTO THE PARK. [02:45:01] WE'VE ACTUALLY PULLED IT AT SHANNON'S REQUEST UP THROUGH THE INTERSECTION OF THE BRAND. SO WE HAVE NARROWED THE ROAD, WE'RE BASICALLY TAKING THAT LANE OF TRAFFIC THAT BECOMES BIKE LANE. SURE. AND WE'RE TURNING IT INTO STRIPING AND WE'RE GOING TO END IT KIND OF AT WHERE THE STOP BAR IS. SO WE'RE THAT WHEN SHANNON TALKED ABOUT NARROWING THAT INTERSECTION, THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE DO THAT. AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING THAT THE BIKE LANE SEPARATORS THAT WE HAVE, WE START TO KIND OF DIAGONALLY D THEM INTO THE CURB. SO WE'RE CREATING KIND OF THAT SAFE SPACE FOR A CYCLIST IN CASE A CAR DOES DRIVE THROUGH IT. UM, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE COM PROPOSING THAT WE HAVE THE TRAFFIC BUTTONS ALONG THE EDGE OF IT TO ALSO BE THAT WARNING AND THAT VISUAL SEPARATOR FOR CARS. SO, UM, IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROCESS 'CAUSE WE'RE AT 30%, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT RIGHT NOW. SORRY. SO THOSE ARE WE TELLING WHATEVER YES. SO YOU CAN DRIVE OVER THEM. RIGHT? OOH, YOU, IF YOU'RE, HERE'S THE, THE REASON I'M ASKING WITH, WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RIGHT THERE, AND IF YOU'RE TAKING ONE LANE AWAY AND IT'S GONNA BECOME A BIKE LANE AND YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PULL OVER SO A FIRETRUCK CAN GET BY, WHERE DO YOU GO? WE DID RUN THIS BY THE FIRE MARSHAL. UM, AND HE CAN EASILY DRIVE OVER AND THEN HE WOULD DRIVE ON THE ROAD AND THE BIKE LANE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. IF, IF THAT'S WHAT SO HE GOES OVER TO THE BIKE LANE? YES. AND SO HOW DO PEOPLE KNOW THAT? I MEAN, YOUR AVERAGE PERSON ISN'T GONNA KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO MOVE OVER FOR A CAR TRUCK 'CAUSE YOU MOVE OVER FOR A CAR TRUCK. WELL, YOU MOVE OVER IN THE ROAD AND WE HAVE PUT UP A CURB DELINEATOR ALONG THE EDGE. SO YOUR YOUR, YOUR MOVE OVER WOULD BE TO STOP AND THEN THEY WILL GO AROUND. AND IF WE NEED TO DO SOME EDUCATION PUSHOUT ROLLOUT WHEN WE DO THIS, WE CAN DO THAT. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO 'CAUSE IT'S, THEY'RE UP AND DOWN THAT STRAIGHT OUT OF TIME OBVIOUSLY. SURE. YEAH. AND YOU SAID THERE ISN'T A SIDEWALK THERE IS ON THE NORTH SIDE ISN'T STARTS NO. ON THE SOUTH SIDE. NOT ON THE SOUTH SIDE. ON THE, ON THE NORTH SIDE THERE'S A POOL SIDEWALK. NO. AND IT'S GONNA BE INCREASED IN SIZE. THIS IS A, THIS IS A, A REPLACEMENT SIDEWALK RIGHT HERE. IN FACT, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT KIND OF TOUGH TO SEE HERE? YOU MIGHT HAVE ONE OF YOUR SECTIONS MIGHT HAVE IT. YEAH. BUT THAT SIDEWALK THERE IS 10 12. WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? RIGHT? THIS, THIS RIGHT HERE. THAT SIDEWALK RIGHT THERE. THIS IS 12 FEET AND THIS IS EIGHT FEET. MM-HMM. . AND THEN IT DOES HAVE TO NARROW DOWN FOR RESTRICTIONS. SO THERE WILL BE A SOUTH, A SOUTH SIDE SIDEWALK? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. THAT'S STILL ON THE NORTH SIDE. ONLY ON THE NORTH SIDE. ON NORTH SIDE. WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT. BUT THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE THERE. OKAY. SO FROM THE BACK OF THE CURB TO THE SIDEWALK IS FROM THE BACK CURB TO HERE, BACK OF THE CURB TO THE EDGE OF THE SIDEWALK. 12 FEET? NO, THE OTHER, THE, THE BETWEEN THE CURB. THE FIRST PART OF THE SIDEWALK. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. MY CON MY CONCERN, MY QUESTION THERE IS WHERE DO YOU PUT THE STOP SIGN HERE? OH. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THIS. SO WHEN WE MOVE THAT, THAT TRANSITION BACK TO THE EAST, WE MAY END UP MOVING THAT STOP SIGN TO THE SECTION BETWEEN THE, THE CYCLE TRACK OR THE GORE. RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE IT OVER CLOSER TO THE TRAVEL LANES. OH, UNDERSTOOD. SO IT MIGHT BE ON THE, WHAT'S THE STREET NOW? RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE GONNA DO IT. LIKE SHE, JANICE SAID WE'RE ONLY AT 30% RIGHT NOW. WE JUST GOT A CONCEPT DRAWING EARLIER TODAY OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. SO JUST, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S REALLY GONNA WORK THROUGH THERE. WHOLE IDEA IS TO MAKE THE MOTORIST LESS COMFORTABLE FLYING THROUGH THERE. RIGHT. WELL YOU MENTIONED YOU PUT THE STOP AHEAD 20 FEET FROM THE STOP SIGN. MM-HMM. AND THE, WHAT DO YOU CALL 'EM? LITTLE BAY BUMPS? JIGGLE BARS, JINGLE BARS. IT ALMOST NEEDS TO BE A HUNDRED YARDS BACK TOWARD MIDWAY TO THE JIGGLE BARS. YEAH. YEAH. IT NEED, THEY NEED TO KNOW WELL BEFORE THEY GET RIGHT UPON THE STOP SIGN BECAUSE WE, YEAH, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S, WELL, WE'LL END UP GETTING A LOT OF NOISE COMPLAINTS THEN AND THAT, THAT I'VE RUN INTO THAT BEFORE. WHEN YOU PUT 'EM AND YOU'RE DRIVING OVER 'EM FULL SPEED, THEY MAKE A LOT OF NOISE. AND SO WHOEVER'S LIVING RIGHT THERE IS, IS WOULDN'T GET YOU HAPPY. SO I THINK, I THINK WHAT SHANNON'S TRYING TO SAY TOO IS WE CAN DO, I I THINK WE'VE EXHAUSTED ALL OF THE KIND OF MINOR THINGS WE CAN DO TO STOP IT. THE REAL, THE SOLUTION IS ROAD DESIGN. IF WE CAN KIND OF NARROW THE ROADS AND HAVE PEOPLE SLOW DOWN BY THE ROAD DESIGN, THAT'S REALLY WHAT, AND THEN BY THIS BIKE LANE PROJECT WILL HELP. THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT. IT'LL HELP US GET THERE. SO ONE INTERESTING THING BEFORE THIS MEETING, UH, PD PULLED SOME STATISTICS FOR US TOO. WE'VE HAD NO ACCIDENTS [02:50:01] OUT THERE. SO I MEAN WE DO HAVE A LOT OF NON-COMPLIANCE, BUT FORTUNATELY WE'VE NOT HAD A LOT OF RESULTS FROM THAT. SO, SO THAT'S OUR ONLY MEASUREMENT IS THAT THERE'S BEEN NO ABSTINENCE, THERE'S NO, AS FAR AS THAT AND VIOLATING AND HOW WE HAVE, WE CAN SPEAK TO THE NUMBER OF WARNINGS AND, AND CITATION WOULD'VE BEEN DEFENSE. DO YOU WANT YEAH, THAT'D BE HELPFUL. 'CAUSE ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING FROM, FROM SOME OF THE RESIDENTS IS, UH, A LIGHTED SIGN. YEAH. AND SIMILAR TO ONE, AND I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD IT SIMILAR TO ONE GOES THAT THAT WE SEE IN DALLAS, THEY'RE, UH, PASSIVE. IT'S, WELL, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A PASSIVE UH, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. IF WE HAD VISIBILITY ISSUES, IF, IF WE REALLY, TRULY THOUGHT PEOPLE WERE NOT SEEING THOSE STOP SIGNS AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THERE, IT'D BE LIKE SOMEONE STANDING OUT THERE GOING REALLY MEAN IT STOP. PLEASE. YOU KNOW, SO THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING THOSE SIGNS. THEY KNOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO STOP. THEY'RE JUST WILLFULLY GOING THROUGH THERE. SO, SO WE'VE HEARD THAT SUGGESTION AND ALSO HEARD THE SUGGESTION OF JUST REMOVING THE THREE WAY STOP MAKING IT A ONE WAY STOP FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT SHOULD BE DONE. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD BE VERY FEASIBLE. PRACTICALLY SPEAKING. SO, BECAUSE, AND THE, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD A COUPLE SAY THAT I THINK IF WE ACTUALLY DID IT, WE WOULD GET SIGNIFICANT PUSHBACK ONCE YOU PUT 'EM IN. IT'S HARD TO IT IS. YEAH. WELL THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN THERE. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE. YES SIR. ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS BUDGET ITEM ? IT REALLY SEEMS LIKE, WELL IT COULD BE BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE, I DUNNO IF THE LEVEL OF DETAILS IS IMPORTANT. I, I I DON'T DISAGREE, MAYOR. AND WE COULD, WE COULD END IT HERE, BUT AT LEAST THAT WE BROUGHT IT TO LIGHT. I'M, I'M, I'M GLAD FOR THAT, BUT I KIND OF THINK WE NEED TO MOVE ALONG A LITTLE BIT. NO, THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE. IF IT, I'M HAPPY TO MOVE THIS ON TO ANOTHER DISCUSSION. , BUT DOWN THIS NEEDED TO BE AT LEAST AIR TIRES SO THAT OUR RESIDENTS DOWN FOR SURE. I GET IT. PURSUING IT. YEAH. , WOULD YOU LIKE TO THANKS JEFF. OKAY, WE'RE GOOD. PAUL . THANKS CHIEF. WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE NUMBERS ON THAT. WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT IN FOR ANOTHER K. OKAY. SO OKAY. BACK TO THE PRESENTATION. SO THAT WAS THE, UM, ONE FOR BELTWAY DRIVE. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A CAPITAL DECISION PACKAGE THAT IS A REQUEST FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE READING TRAIL DOG PARK. THIS WOULD BE IN CONJUNCTION OR IT WOULD BE TIMED WITH THE AMLI PROJECT, UM, THAT IS HAPPENING ADJACENT TO THE DOG PARK. BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS TO, UM, BUILD THIS TRAIL AND EXTEND A MIDWAY ROAD IS WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE THE DOG PARK FENCE IN AND THEN WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE DOG PARK A LITTLE BIT LONGER. AND IN DOING SO, AND WORKING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AMIE TREE HOUSE PROJECT, THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED SOME FUNDS THAT CAN BE USED TO REHAB THE DOG PARK. AND SO WE'RE GONNA USE THOSE FUNDS TO REPLACE THE FENCE AROUND THE DOG PARK. SO WE'LL DO THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS PROJECT. UM, THE COST OF THE TOWN'S, UM, CONTRIBUTION IS $550,500. IT'D BE A ONE-TIME COST FROM OUR INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT FUND. JUST A QUESTION OUT. YEAH. TRAIL. SO IS THAT THE MIDWAY TRAIL, IS THAT CONNECTING ACROSS MIDWAY TO FARMER'S BRANCH? IT IS NOT. IT IS JUST CONNECTING TO THE MIDWAY TRAIL THAT'S BEING BUILT WITHIN MIDWAY ROAD PROJECT. CORRECT. DO WE ALREADY OWN ALL THAT LAND OR DO WE NEED TO PURCHASE ANY? WE HAVE A LICENSE AGREEMENT FROM ENCORE FOR THAT LAND. NOW I WILL TELL YOU OUR LICENSE AGREEMENT DID HAVE A, A TIMEFRAME ON CONSTRUCTION TO BE COMPLETED, UM, FROM ENCORE. AND I'M HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT, WE KIND OF HAD TO PAUSE BECAUSE OF THIS ADJACENT PROJECT. AND SO WE MAY COME BACK WITH YOU TO YOU WITH AN UPDATE TO THAT LICENSE AGREEMENT, BUT WE CURRENTLY DO HAVE THAT LICENSE AGREEMENT IN PLACE FOR THAT LAND. OKAY. AND NOW I'M GONNA, UM, PRESENT THE PORTION OF OUR PRESENTATION FOR RECREATION. UM, RECREATIONS ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR FFY, UM, 2023 IS, AND EVERYBODY KIND OF GETS A BIG SMILE ON THEIR FACE WHEN WE SAY THIS AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB, IS WE COMPLETED THE RENOVATION OF THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB PROJECT. UM, AND WE KEPT THE FACILITY OPEN TO MEMBERS DURING CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT TOOK A LOT OF EXTRA WORK ON OUR STAFF'S PART TO MAKE ALL OF THAT HAPPEN. UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT NOW THAT IT'S DONE, WE WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT SUCCESS AND WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE NEW BUILDING. UM, THE, THE NEW BUILDING RENOVATIONS THAT WE HAVE. UM, WE ALSO, THIS YEAR WE CONDUCTED MEMBER NEEDS SURVEYS AND WE USE THIS INFORMATION TO ADJUST OUR PROGRAMS AND CAPTURE INFORMATION FROM OUR MEMBERS ON WHAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE [02:55:01] BUILDING. AND SO THAT'S ALLOWING US TO DO FUTURE PLANNING. UM, WE'VE EXPERIENCED A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OUR PROGRAM ATTENDANCE, AND I THINK THAT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE QUALITY OF PROGRAMS, HOW WE'RE GETTING THE WORD OUT. AND WE HAVE ALSO RECEIVED A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK THIS YEAR FROM OUR MEMBERS REGARDING OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE IN THE FACILITY. UM, I THINK A DIRECT RESULT OF THIS IS OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM DID PARTICIPATE AND COMPLETE A LEADERSHIP TRAINING COURSE AND THEN THEY HAVE BEEN PUSHING THAT DOWN TO THEIR STAFF THAT WORKS THE FRONT DESK AND IS FORWARD FACING. AND I THINK WE'VE SEEN SOME WINS FROM THAT. UM, WE ARE CONTINUING TO GROW PARTICIPATION IN ADDISON OUTDOORS. UM, WE'RE SEEING, UM, GROWTH IN SOME OF OUR POPUPS THAT WE'RE DOING LIKE POPUP YOGA AND WE'RE TRYING SOME NEW THINGS. LIKE WE'RE DOING A POPUP AT THE VOLLEYBALL COURT AND I THINK WE'VE GOT A POPUP PLAN FOR THE DOG PARK. UM, AND SO WE'RE SEEING SOME GOOD SUCCESS WITH THAT. AND THEN BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE PICKLEBALL COURTS, WE WERE ABLE TO FORM, UM, PICKLEBALL LEAGUES AND TOURNAMENTS. SO THOSE WERE OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR THE YEAR. AND THEN OUR OBJECTIVES ARE TO GROW RECREATION AND FITNESS PROGRAM OFFERINGS, UM, TO MONITOR AND PLAN FOR FUTURE NEEDS ON THE HORIZON. SO WE JUST FINISHED A BIG RENOVATION PROJECT AND WE ALL KIND OF FEEL LIKE, WELL, WE CAN BREATHE AND WE'RE DONE. UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE, THE FLOORS ON THE GYM AND THE RACKETBALL COURT NEED REFINISHING AND THEY'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THEY CAN MAYBE ONLY BE REFINISHED ONE MORE TIME. UM, OUR INDOOR POOL FILTER NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. AND IF YOU GO VISIT THE OUTDOOR POOL, THERE ARE A LOT OF ELEMENTS THAT ARE STARTING TO SHOW THEIR AGE THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT AN OUTDOOR POOL RENOVATION. UM, WE ALSO HAVE IN OUR MEMBER NEEDS, WE IDENTIFIED, UM, THAT UH, FREE WEIGHTS WAS A BIG DESIRE OF A LOT OF OUR MEMBERS. AND SO WE'VE GOTTA CREATE A SPACE FOR THAT. AND SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE MAKING PLANS FOR. UM, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO ANALYZE AND IMPROVE SUSTAINABILITY PLANS FOR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE FOR THE ATHLETIC CLUB, WE'RE PRETTY UNIQUE IN THE FACT THAT WE CHARGE A ONE-TIME FEE. UM, MOST RECREATION FACILITIES, THEY DON'T COVER A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR OPERATING COSTS, BUT THEY TRY TO COVER 30 TO 50%. AND WE ARE NOT BRINGING IN REVENUE, UM, LIKE OTHER FACILITIES ARE. AND SO AS OUR FACILITY AGES AND OUR USER GROUPS NEEDS CHANGE, UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE FUND THOSE THINGS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND SO THOSE ARE SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE TO CONTINUE AND GROW ADDISON OUTDOORS AND OUR ATTENDANCE THERE. UM, TO GO THROUGH OUR DECISION PACKAGES, THE FIRST ONE THAT WE HAVE IS A RECREATION VAN PURCHASE. UH, WE HAVE BEEN RENTING, UH, PASSENGER VANS FOR OUR PROGRAMS LAST YEAR, LAST SUMMER WE GOT INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE NEEDED VANS FOR CAMP AND THEY WERE NOT AVAILABLE AND UH, WE HAD TO PULL SOME MAGIC OFF TO BE ABLE TO GET A VAN AND MAKE CAMP HAPPEN. AND, AND SO WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT, UM, OVERCOMING THAT OBSTACLE. BUT ALSO WE DID HAVE A VAN AT ONE TIME AND IT SUPPLEMENTED, UM, LIKE IF HR WAS GOING TO GIVE A TOUR, UM, TO PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES THAT THEY COULD USE THE VAN. IT KIND OF SUPPLEMENTED OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND SO WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY OF PURCHASING A VAN SO WE DIDN'T GET IN THE SITUATION, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW US TO ALSO DO MORE AND IT, UM, OFFER MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND SUPPORT OTHER DEPARTMENTS. UM, THE VAN THAT WE HAVE PRICED OUT HERE, THE COST OF THE VAN IS GONNA GET A LITTLE BIT OVER ABOUT $60,000. AND THEN THERE ARE SOME COSTS FOR UP UPFITTING TO PROVIDE FOR A D A ACCESS INTO THE VAN BECAUSE THE SPAN WOULD BE USED ON A LOT OF OUR SENIOR PROGRAMS. SO THERE'S SOME MONEY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND THEN WE DID BUILD IN SOME INFLATION BECAUSE GENERAL SERVICES HAS HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES, UM, PURCHASING EQUIPMENT THE FIRST YEAR AND SOMETIMES WE'RE DEALING WITH TWO YEAR OUT COST. AND SO WE WERE PLANNING FOR, IF THAT IS AN OBSTACLE, UM, THERE'S MONEY BUILT INTO THIS FOR THAT. UM, AND SO THAT'S THE DECISION PACKAGE REGARDING THE VAN. HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT ONE. SURE. SO, UH, HOW MUCH DID YOU SPEND ON RENTALS LAST YEAR? OR AT LEAST AN EQUIVALENT OF ONE LAST WEEK? SO LAST, LAST YEAR FOR SUMMER CAMP ALONE, WHICH IS KIND OF UNIQUE, WE SPENT ABOUT 35,000 ON A VAN RENTAL, BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE THE FACILITY WAS CLOSED. AND SO WE USED THAT VAN A LOT MORE. UM, ON A NORMAL YEAR, I BELIEVE WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT 18,000 ON RENTALS. UM, NOW I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WE MAY STILL NEED TO RENT A LARGER VAN, UM, BECAUSE WE DO SOME LONGER TRIPS WHERE WE HAVE [03:00:01] LARGER ATTENDANCE, BUT THE MAJORITY OF OUR TRIPS THIS WOULD COVER HOW MANY DOES THAT SEAT, THIS ONE SEATS? IT DEPENDS ON HOW WE UPFIT IT IN THE EXACT MODEL, BUT IT COULD BE 12 TO 16, THE 80 A UM, RAMP IS, OR THE ACCESS IS GONNA REDUCE SOME OF THAT. AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RECURRING COSTS, BUT YOU HAVE LIKE INSURANCE AND GASOLINE AND MAINTENANCE MM-HMM. AND ALL THOSE OTHER KINDS OF THINGS. SO HOW ARE THOSE? SO WE DID BREAK OUT THOSE COSTS, BUT THEY WERE SO MINIMAL IT WAS DECIDED THAT WE WOULD JUST ABSORB THAT IN OUR CURRENT OPERATIONS BUDGET. BUT WE DID LOOK AT IT. WHERE WOULD THIS BE STORED? IT WOULD BE STORED AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB ON THE, UM, BACKSIDE OF THE PARKING LOT WHERE THE POOL IS. UM, WE'VE PUT IN A CAMERA OVER THERE AND THAT'S OUR KIND OF AREA, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAVE THAT AO TRAILER PARKED. IT WOULD BE IN THAT GENERAL AREA. OKAY. UM, WE ALSO HAVE A DECISION PACKAGE REQUEST FOR $57,000. AND THIS IS FOR UPDATE ITEMS NOT INCLUDED IN THE RENOVATION OF THE ATHLETIC CLUB. AND SO THOSE WERE THINGS THAT COULDN'T NECESSARILY FIT INTO BOND FUNDING BECAUSE THERE'S SOME RESTRICTIONS WITH BOND FUNDS. LIKE THINGS HAVE TO LAST 20 YEARS AND IT'S CERTAIN ELEMENTS. SO THESE ARE SMALLER THINGS AROUND THE BUILDING, LIKE ALL THE DOOR HARDWARE NOW THAT WE'VE REFINISHED THE DOORS, THE HARDWARE, SO NOT JUST THE HANDLES BUT THE HINGES AND EVERYTHING LOOK, UM, VERY OUTDATED AND THEY DON'T MATCH OUR CURRENT DESIGN, THE METAL COLOR THAT WE'RE USING. SO THIS WOULD, UM, INCLUDE REPLACING ALL OF THAT, THE KICK PLATES, THE CRASH BARS. UM, WE'VE GOT SOME FUNDS TO UPDATE THE STOREFRONT. UM, GOING INTO THE FACILITY. UM, WE'VE GOT SOME MISCELLANEOUS MONEY TO PAINT METAL AROUND DOORS THAT LOOKS VERY AGED. IT THAT WASN'T IN THE PROJECT, BUT NOW THAT EVERYTHING'S FRESHLY PAINTED, IT'S REALLY SHOWING ITS AGE. UM, AND TO REPLACE OUTDATED SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY. WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING SOME OF THE SIGNAGE, BUT THERE'S A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO PICK UP THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT. AND THEN THE STAFF, UM, BRAKE SLASH LIFEGUARD ROOM, UM, REALLY NEEDS THE FLOORING REPLACED, THE WALLS PAINTED, UM, AND TO INSTALL CLOSED DOOR CABINETS. THIS IS OUR AREA THAT OUR LIFEGUARDS USE WHEN THEY TAKE BREAKS, THAT THEY GET OUT OF THE 105 DEGREE HEAT WHERE THERE'S AIR CONDITIONING AND THEY CAN HAVE LUNCH, BUT IT ALSO HAS A LOT OF EQUIPMENT OUT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, SAFELY ENCLOSE AND PUT IN CABINETS. AND THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP US USE THIS ROOM MORE AS A STAFF BREAK ROOM. WE DON'T HAVE, EVERY OTHER FACILITY IN ADDISON HAS A DEDICATED SPACE FOR STAFF TO GO GRAB LUNCH THAT HAS KIND OF SOME BARE MINIMUMS. WE HAVE A REFRIGERATOR THERE AND A A COUNTER ABOUT AS BIG AS THIS PODIUM. UM, AND SO WE'D PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE IN THERE FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO PUT THEIR LUNCH DOWN, HEAT IT UP AND, AND, AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR BREAKS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THOSE FUNDS ARE ATTRIBUTED TO. HEY JANA, WHERE IS, WHERE IS THAT ROOM THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? THE LIFEGUARD ROOM IS ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE FACILITY. SO THE STAIRS THAT YOU GO UP TO GO UP TO THE FITNESS WING WHERE THE PINGING PONG TABLE IS, IF YOU, UM, TURN RIGHT AND GO BEHIND THE PINGING PONG TABLES, WE'VE PUT IN A DOOR. IF YOU GO THROUGH THAT DOOR, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF STORAGE OF ALL OF OUR TABLES AND CHAIRS GET STORED IN THAT, UM, HALLWAY. AND WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF IT, THERE'S A ROOM THAT OPENS UP, IT OVERLOOKS THE POOL DECK SO OUR LIFEGUARDS CAN SEE, UM, WE ALWAYS WANT THEIR EYES ON THE POOL EVEN IF THEY'RE TAKING A BREAK. UM, AND SO IT'S THAT ROOM THAT OPENS UP OVER TO THE POOL THAT'S ON THE LOWER LEVEL. IT ISN'T IT PART OF THE, I HAD A ATHLETIC CLUB MASTER PLAN TO ACTIVATE THAT SPACE INTO, UM, MULTIPURPOSE UH, WORKOUT. THERE WAS DIS WHAT HAVE YOU, THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF THAT WHEN, UM, IF YOU REMEMBER I WA I WASN'T HERE SO I'M GOING OFF OF WHAT STAFF TELLS ME. BUT THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE ATHLETIC CLUB WAS REALLY LOOKING AT PROGRAMMING SPACE AND WHAT WE COULD DO TO ENHANCE, UM, WHAT WE OFFER IN THE BUILDING. BUT AT SOME POINT THE PLAN BECAME MORE OF A FACILITIES UTILIZATION STUDY THAT IDENTIFIED WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO KEEP THE BUILDING UP TO SHAPE AND THAT WAS THE A AC AND THE ELEVATOR AND THE PAINTING AND THE THINGS THAT WE JUST ACCOMPLISHED IN THE RENOVATION PROJECT. AND SO THAT ACTIVATION COMPONENT WAS NEVER COMPLETED. I DO KNOW THAT IT WAS LOOKED AT WHEN THAT WAS DISCUSSED. AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IS ONCE YOU START TO PUT THE PUBLIC IN THAT ROOM, UM, THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE EMERGENCY ACCESS OUTDOORS, WHICH IS ONTO A POOL DECK THAT DOESN'T HAVE LIFEGUARDS YEAR ROUND. AND SO THAT BECAME VERY TROUBLESOME. UM, THE WINDOWS ON THAT BUILT ON THAT ROOM ARE NOT WELL INSULATED AND SO THE TEMPERATURES EITHER REALLY HOT OR [03:05:01] REALLY COLD IN THERE. IT'S HARD TO KEEP THE TEMPERATURE. AND SO THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE MADE TO PROGRAM THAT SPACE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IS, UM, OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN IS COMING UP ON A FI NEEDING A FIVE-YEAR UPDATE. AND SO A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S JUST UPDATING WHAT WE'VE DONE AND LOOKING AT IS THERE ANYTHING WE REALLY NEED TO HYPER-FOCUS IN ON? AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND IS WHEN WE DO THAT UPDATE TO THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, THAT WE HAVE THEM LOOK AT OUR PROGRAMMING NEEDS FOR THE ATHLETIC CLUB BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME, WE'VE GOT, UM, A TEEN GROUP THAT IS ASKING FOR SOME DEDICATED SPACE AND WE'VE GOT A GROUP THAT'S ASKING FOR FREE WEIGHTS. UM, WE HAVE TWO RACKETBALL COURTS THAT I CAN GIVE YOU THE USER NUMBERS ON IT AND IT SERVES NOT A LOT OF USERS, BUT THEY'RE USERS THAT REALLY LIKE THOSE COURTS. AND I, SO I THINK WE NEED TO GO THROUGH A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT PROGRAM NEEDS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND WHERE DO WE FIND SPACE TO MEET THOSE NEEDS. AND SO WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING RIGHT NOW JUST GETS US OUR STAFF TAKING CARE OF CURRENTLY. AND THEN IF WE MAKE A DECISION THAT WE NEED TO START TO LOOK AT THAT SPACE FOR PROGRAM NEEDS, THEN WE'VE GOTTA FIND A SPACE TO PUT OUR LIFEGUARDS AND WE'VE GOTTA FIND A SPACE FOR OUR STAFF TO HAVE BREAKS. AND SO THAT COULD BE A PART OF THAT, UM, OVERALL LOOK THAT WE DO WITH THE UPDATE TO THE MASTER PLAN. WHERE, WHERE HAVE THE LIFEGUARD BEEN IN THE PAST? THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN THAT ROOM. THEY'VE BEEN IN THAT ROOM. MM-HMM. , THAT'S NOT THE ONLY STAFF BREAK ROOM, IS IT? THERE'S A LITTLE ROOM UPSTAIRS BY THE COMMUNITY ROOM OR THE LIBRARY, UM, THAT DOES HAVE SOME COUNTER SPACE, BUT STAFF GETS BUMPED OUT OF THAT IF THERE IS A USER GROUP THAT'S USING THAT AND THEY NEED THE KITCHEN AND A LOT OF TIMES THOSE NEEDS ARE SOMETIMES AROUND LUNCHTIME. SO WE CAN'T A HUNDRED PERCENT GUARANTEE THAT STAFF ALWAYS HAS ACCESS TO THAT SPACE. SO THEY GO DOWN TO THAT ROOM. MM-HMM. . OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS A REQUEST TO BEGIN THE OUTDOOR POOL RENOVATION. SO I WANNA STRESS THAT THIS IS A BEGINNING. UM, AND IT IS JUST A ADDRESSING THE TWO MOST CRITICAL NEEDS OF THE OUTDOOR POOL. AND THAT IS TO REPLACE THE PLASTER AND TO REPLACE THE TILE ON THE POOL. UM, WE DO HAVE A LIST OF OTHER ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED SOON, UM, BUT WE RECOMMEND THAT WE DO FUTURE PLANNING FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IN FUTURE YEARS TO LOOK AT A BROADER RENOVATION OF THE OUTDOOR POOL AREA. BUT THIS TAKES CARE OF SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDER AS GETTING INTO CRITICAL FAILURE AREA. AND SO THAT REQUEST IS $339,743 FOR THE TILE AND PLASTER OF THE OUTDOOR POOL. YOU SURE THAT'S NOT BUYING A WHOLE NEW POOL ? IT DOES SEEM, I NEED TO GET THAT PRICE. . AND WE, WE DID GET QUOTES ON THIS. UM, IN FACT WE HAD A CONSULTANT GIVE US QUOTES THAT WE WERE LIKE, THAT'S REALLY HIGH. UM, AND SO WE REACHED OUT TO A VENDOR AND ASKED THEM TO GIVE US QUOTES AND THEIR NUMBER WASN'T TOO FAR OFF WHAT THE CONSULTANT GAVE US. AND THAT'S, AND AS GONNA SAY, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S JUST THE FIRST OF MANY THINGS WE ASKED. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RE PLASTERING RETILE OF, OF ALL OF THESE VARIOUS POOLS. IT OUTDOORS. YES. OUTDOORS. MM-HMM. . SO IT'D BE ONE UNIFORM? YES. PLASTER? IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE. WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. YES. IT WOULD BE ONE UNIFORM PLASTER. SO JANA, ON PAGE 58 OF OUR BOOK, THE TRAIL REHAB EXPANSION WAY FINDING IN HERE IT SAYS ADD SHADED OUTDOOR FITNESS STATION ADJACENT TO LAY LOCK PARK. THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT. IS THAT THE ONE THAT GOT MOVED TO VI TRIVIAN? ARE YOU REFERENCING THE OUTDOOR FITNESS TRAILS? ARE YOU ING THE PARKS MASTER PLAN OR WHAT ARE THIS IS IN OUR BUDGET BOOK THAT WE GOT. 58. 58. HEY. YEAH. BUT THIS LIKE A DIFFERENT THING. IT'S THE BOND. OH THIS IS OUR C I P AND BOND PROJECT. YEAH. AND IN THE DESCRIPTION IT'S THE LAST SENTENCE THERE. OKAY. SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE, TO VITRUVIAN. OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE'RE ALREADY CURRENTLY WORKING ON. AND THIS, THE C I P AND BOND PROJECTS CAPTURES MULTIPLE YEARS. I JUST NOT JUST THIS YEAR. WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T ABOUT TO TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS. NO, THE THE CIT PAGES, IF IT'S A PROJECT THAT ENDED THIS YEAR IN 23, IT'S JUST SHOWN HERE FOR TRANSPARENCY SHOW. YEAH. GOT IT. AND WITH THE PLASTER, DO WE KNOW WHAT COLOR THAT THAT MIGHT BE? OR WHAT WE MIGHT BE CONSIDERING? WE, UM, WOULD SELECT, THERE'S [03:10:01] A RANGE OF COLORS, UM, THAT WE CAN PICK FROM THAT ARE IN THEIR STANDARD COLORS. THAT WOULDN'T BE AN UPSELL, BUT PAT HIGHLY RECOMMENDS THAT WE PICK A LIGHT COLOR LIKE THE WHITE FOR SAFETY. AND SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT WOULD FIT THAT SAFETY CRITERIA. I KNOW THE NEXT SLIDE. SO RIVETING. IT'S SO UNCOMFORTABLE. I'LL, UH, YEAH, I'LL TAKE, I'LL TAKE, I THOUGHT THAT WAS DELETED. WE THOUGHT THIS WAS AN APPROPRIATE TIME AFTER TALKING ABOUT ALL THE POOL COSTS AND ALL THE COSTS AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, UM, PRESS, PRESS THIS RIGHT NOW AND SAY THIS NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE BUDGET. WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS JUST GET A TEMPERATURE FOR COUNCIL. SHOULD WE LOOK AT THIS NEXT? SHOULD WE LOOK AT MEMBERSHIP FEES NEXT YEAR? INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY, HAVE A COMMIT, DO OUTREACH, LOOK AT THE OPTIONS. WOULD YOU LIKE US TO LOOK AT THAT, BRING OPTIONS BACK? AGAIN, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO ANY CHANGES, BUT JUST GET YOUR TEMPERATURE OF IF, DO YOU THINK IT'S WORTH US SPENDING THE TIME AND EFFORT TO LOOK AT MEMBERSHIP? SO YOU JUST TALKING ABOUT ACROSS THE BOARD MEMBERSHIP CHARGE AT, AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB? YEAH. UM, RIGHT. IT COULD BE MONTHLY. IT COULD BE ANNUAL. I MEAN, I THINK NO MATTER WHAT, IF WE WERE GONNA DO SOMETHING, WE WOULD'VE DIFFERENT RATE FOR OVER 65, WHICH IS UNDER 65, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WE COULD LOOK AT ALL THOSE OPTIONS AND JUST BRING IT BACK AND HAVE A DISCUSSION. WE PROBABLY SHOULD AT LEAST DOUBLE IT. RIGHT. THAT LOT. PAY FOR THE, THAT WOULDN'T PAY FOR THE STUDY. IT'S, THAT'S TWO TIMES NOTHING. DO WE WANT TO DO MORE OF A STUDY ON, ON THE EXPENSES AS AS, AS THE FACILITY AGES AND THEN MAKE THE SET OF COSTS SO THAT IT'S MORE OF A COMPELLING WHY WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT DOING THE FEES? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, I MEAN I THINK UPDATE, I THINK DOING A , WE HAVE SOME OF THAT ON SOME OF THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS. WE HAVE A MULTI-YEAR LOOK, SO WE HAVE A HEAD START ON THE COST. UM, BUT EVEN TO, TO MARLIN'S POINT, I MEAN TO SPEAK TO THE MASTER PLAN, THE MASTER PLAN WAS FROM 2016. IT'S, IT'S VERY DATED. WE COULD LOOK AT DOING AN UPDATED MASTER PLAN AS WELL WITH IT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN TO ALL THAT. AND I WOULD LOVE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO GO THAT DIRECTION. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT. YES, I AGREE. I I LIKE IT THE WAY IT IS. I MEAN I'D LOVE TO FIGURE OUT LITTLE ANCILLARY, UH, FEES, BUT I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES US SPECIAL. UM, AND UM, AND IT'S JUST INTERESTING TO ME WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE, UM, THEY MOVED AWAY AND THEY DIDN'T MOVE THAT FAR AND, AND THEN MAYBE AFTER THEY MOVED THEY REALIZED, OH MY GOSH, I I CAN'T USE THE ATHLETIC CLUB ANYMORE. I REALLY MISS THE ATHLETIC CLUB. AND TO ME IT'S, IT'S A BIG SELLING POINT. UM, AND, AND WE ADVERTISE IT, UH, OVER TOWN HOMES OF ADDISON AMONG OTHER THINGS. UM, ABOUT ONE OF THE GREAT PERKS ABOUT LIVING IN ADDISON. WELL I THINK IT CAN STILL BE A GREAT PERK EVEN THOUGH THE COST CHANGES. 'CAUSE THERE'S NO, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A GUARANTEED COST, UH, FOR THE LIFETIME OF THE FACILITY. SO YOU HAVE TO AT LEAST, WE HAVE TO AT LEAST LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE THAT MAYBE WE DON'T WANT, MAYBE WE DO, BUT WE HAVE TO AT LEAST REVIEW IT. I WOULD SUSPECT NOT JUST, YEAH. I THINK IT'S WORTH HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT. SURE. YOU KNOW, WE, BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE. YES, WE HAVE. WE'VE HAD THE SAME CONVERSATION. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, WHEN WE'VE LOOKED AT THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WOULD COME IN FROM MEMBERSHIP FEES FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY USE IT. YEP. IT DIDN'T MAKE A DENT IN ANYTHING. IT DID. YEAH. BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. YES. TALK. IT DOESN'T COST ANYTHING. SO YOU SAY THAT WHEN YOU SAY USE IT, YOU MEAN THE MEMBERS, RIGHT? THAT ACTUALLY USE CLUB? YEAH. WE GOT A LOT OF MEMBERS THAT DON'T, DON'T REALLY USE IT THAT MUCH, BUT YEAH. WHAT'S OUR TOTAL MEMBERSHIP COUNT RIGHT NOW? 3 30, 600, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, IT'S IN THE BALLPARK OF THAT. AND HOW LONG HAS THIS FEE BEEN BEEN IN PLACE? UM, SINCE THE FACILITY OPENED. UM, ONE THING THAT, WHEN DID IT OVER AT LEAST 30 YEARS. YEAH. 30 YEARS. OKAY. 30 YEARS. SO LONG TIME ADVERTISED $10 OVER 30 YEARS WHEN YOU WERE GETTING ADVERTISED. 10 30, 86. YEAH. 86. I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS IT. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHEN YOU TALKING ABOUT MEMBERSHIP FEES, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE INITIAL OR AN ONGOING OR BOTH? WE CONSIDER BOTH. ALL THE ABOVE. ALL. ALL THE ABOVE. OKAY. IT'S 21ST CENTURY. HOW ABOUT WHAT WE'LL DO IS ONCE WE GET THROUGH BUDGET, MAYBE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, WE'LL JUST BRING BACK A WORK SESSION WHERE WE CAN SOME OF THIS EASY NUMBERS, RIGHT? WE JUST PUT THEM AND SO WE'LL JUST HAVE A WORK SESSION WHERE WE TALK ABOUT IT AND SEE WHAT THE NEXT STEPS COULD BE OR THERE'S NO NEXT STEPS. WE BRING THAT FORWARD. YEP. HE'S NOT, YES. THANK YOU, JOE. ANYTHING ELSE YOU TONIGHT? NO, THE, THE CHIEFS WILL BE READY TOMORROW. ALRIGHT, GOOD DEAL. SO 12, 12 O'CLOCK. TOMORROW O'CLOCK. 12 O'CLOCK. 12 TOMORROW. ALRIGHT. EIGHT 15. WE'RE [03:15:01] ADJOURNED FOR TONIGHT, Y'ALL. THANK YOU. OH REALLY? THANK YOU MAYOR. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.