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          [ Call Meeting to Order]
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          PLEASE STAND UP FOR THE PLEDGE. 
          PLEDGE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR, WE HAVE QUITE WORK SESSION, RIGHT? AND I HOPE WE FINISH WORK SESSION BEFORE SEVEN 30. 
          SO I, WE CAN DEFINITELY FINISH BEFORE NIGHT. 
          [1.  Present and Discuss the Housing Community Meeting Follow Up.]
THE FIRST ITEM IS PRESENT, DISCUSS THE HOUSING COMMITTEE MEETING. 
          FOLLOW UP. 
          THANKS, MAYOR. 
          KENS COME UP AND DO A PRESENTATION. 
          THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A FOLLOW UP FROM THE, UM, THE TOWN MEETING THAT WE HAD A COUPLE WEEKS AGO ON WEDNESDAY TO DISCUSS, UH, HOUSING POLICY, REDEVELOPMENT POLICY. 
          SO I THOUGHT THE MEETING VERY WELL. 
          STAFF DID A GREAT JOB OF PREPARING FORWARD AND LOT OF INFORMATION. 
          WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT AT THE MEETING. 
          UM, SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO HEAR SOME FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL AND GO OVER SOME, UH, SOME QUESTIONS, FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FROM A MEETING ITSELF. 
          SO I'LL LEAVE IT OVER TO KEN. 
          THAT WAS REALLY A GREAT JOB, YOU KNOW. 
          THANK YOU, KEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MARION CITY COUNCIL. 
          KEN SCHMIDT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THE TOWN. 
          UM, SO COMING OUT OF THE COMMUNITY MEETING, UH, WE DID HAVE, UH, A SERIES OF FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL. 
          SO, UH, TONIGHT WITH OUR PRESENTATIONS, AND I'LL BE JOINED BY SEVERAL OTHER STAFF MEMBERS, WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          UH, SO I'M GONNA START, UH, WITH THE FIRST ONE, AND IT IS, UH, WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF URBAN MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH RENTAL HOUSING ON ADJACENT OWNERSHIP HOUSING, PROPERTY VALUES? SO, JUST VERY BROADLY, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT DFW AS A REGION, REGARDLESS OF NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT OR DEVELOPMENT CONTEXT, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY VALUES ARE INCREASING. 
          THAT'S JUST THE GENERAL TREND. 
          AND, AND WHAT'S DRIVING THAT IS THE POPULATION AND JOB MIGRATION THAT'S OCCURRING IN OUR REGION. 
          MORE PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE TO WORK AND LIVE, AND THAT DRIVES DEMAND FOR HOUSING. 
          AND IF THE CONSTRUCTION OF HOUSING DOES NOT KEEP UP WITH THAT DEMAND, THEN PROPERTY VALUES WILL INCREASE. 
          SO THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING. 
          WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT FROM THE, THE PERSPECTIVE OF THIS QUESTION, UH, THERE'S A BROAD RANGE OF STUDIES PERFORMED BY INSTITUTIONAL AND ACADEMIC, UM, UH, ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL AS PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS ULI, UH, URBAN LAND INSTITUTE, AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION, OTHER REAL ESTATE ORGANIZATIONS. 
          AND IT GENERALLY, THE RESULTS OF THOSE STUDIES GENERALLY COMMUNICATE WHAT INTUITIVELY IS, IS APPARENT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, UH, MORE URBAN AREAS SUCH AS DOWNTOWNS AND ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          REAL ESTATE IS MORE EXPENSIVE, UM, AND THAT IS DRIVEN BY ITS ACCESS TO AMENITIES SUCH AS URBAN PARKS AND OPEN SPACE WALKABILITY, UM, AND, UH, RETAIL ENTERTAINMENT JOBS. 
          THAT IS WHAT REALLY DRIVES THE VALUE. 
          SO WHAT THOSE STUDIES SHOW, AND ANECDOTALLY, UH, UH, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY, UH, A COMMON THOUGHT IS THAT, UH, THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S RENTAL OR OWNERSHIP HOUSING, IF IT'S URBAN AND DENSE, IT'S GOING TO HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON ADJACENT PROPERTY VALUES. 
          SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE QUALITATIVE PERSPECTIVE FROM THOSE STUDIES BACKED UP BY QUANTITATIVE DATA, OF COURSE. 
          AND, UH, TO FURTHER THAT, WE DID LOOK AT A SERIES OF NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE DALLAS FORT GROUP METROPLEX TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT OF, UH, NEW URBAN DEVELOPMENT HAD ON ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY VALUES. 
          SO WE'LL RUN THROUGH THOSE, UM, EXAMPLES AND, AND, UH, TO SHOW THAT IMPACT. 
          SO, FIRST ONE IS A SUBURBAN MIX, EAST DEVELOPMENT IN FLOWER MOUND, A VERY SUBURBAN COMMUNITY WITH SEVERAL URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND THIS IS ITS MOST PROMINENT URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, LAKESIDE, DFW. 
          UH, IT STARTED, UH, CONSTRUCTION IN 2014 AND, UH, IS STILL ONGOING TO THIS DAY WITH ITS, ITS NEXT PHASE. 
          AND IT'S A, IT'S A REGIONAL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, IT IS COMPRISED OF MULTI FAMILY RENTAL, SENIOR HOUSING, RENTAL RETAIL RESTAURANTS AND OWNERSHIP HOUSING IN THE FORM OF SINGLE FAMILY AND CONDOS. 
          UH, WE LOOKED AT A PROPERTY, UH, AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY THAT EXISTED PRIOR TO THIS DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING, UH, JUST TO THE NORTH OF IT, ABOUT 600 FEET FROM THE CLOSEST APARTMENT BUILDING. 
          AND, UH, WE LOOKED AT ITS PROPERTY VALUE AND HOW IT EVOLVED OVER TIME. 
          SO THAT PROJECT KICKED OFF IN 2014. 
          SO, UH, IN 2013, THIS PROPERTY WAS VALUED AT 331,000. 
          AND THEN OVER TIME, UH, LOOKING AT 2022, IT'S, UH, REALLY, UH, UH, DOUBLED IN VALUE, UH, INCREASING THE 670,000 
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IN 2022. 
          SO A VERY POSITIVE IMPACT. 
          IT WAS NOT DETRIMENTALLY IMPACTED, UH, CERTAINLY BY THE MIX USE DEVELOPMENT IN, IN FACT, IT WAS LIKELY, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCED. 
          THE NEXT EXAMPLE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LIKELY ALL FAMILIAR WITH, THE SHOPS AT LEGACY AT PLANO, UH, LARGELY, UM, OFFICE, MULTI-FAMILY AND A RETAIL NODE. 
          UH, IT DOES HAVE SOME OWNERSHIP HOUSING, UH, EXISTING, UH, AT THE NORTHERN END OF THAT PROJECT. 
          UH, GENERALLY, UH, SERVING AS THE NORTHERN EDGE OF WHAT WE KNOW AS THE SHOPS. 
          AND THEN, UH, SERVING AS THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF KRAN PARK, A MAJOR OFFICE NODE. 
          UM, SO, UH, THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN THE LATE NINETIES. 
          AND IF YOU CONSIDER LEGACY WEST AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE REMAINING OUT PARCELS IN THE SHOPS LEGACY, IT IS STILL, UH, UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT LARGELY BUILT OUT. 
          UM, SO WE LOOKED AT A, UH, TOWN HOME THAT WAS BUILT IN 2013, UH, FRONTING ON HEADQUARTERS DRIVE AND AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY. 
          UM, AT THAT TIME IN, IN 2014, IT WAS, UH, VALUED BY THE, UH, COLIN CAD AT 300,000. 
          AND TODAY IT'S AT, UH, 449,000. 
          SO, UH, ROUGHLY A 50% INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUE OVER AN EIGHT YEAR PERIOD. 
          UH, A VERY STRONG PERFORMANCE, UH, GIVEN, UH, TIME THAT THAT SURPASSED THERE. 
          NEXT CASE STUDY, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE LOS COALS URBAN CENTER. 
          UH, SO THIS IS A SUB-DISTRICT OF LOS COALS. 
          UH, THIS, UH, HAS BEEN DEVELOPING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES, STARTING REALLY HEAVILY WITH OFFICE, AND THEN, UH, IN RECENT DECADES, UH, VERY MUCH, UH, A HEAVY FOCUS ON MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS NOW RETAIL AND ENTERTAINMENT WITH THE TOYOTA MUSIC FACTORY, UH, DOES HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT OF OWNERSHIP HOUSING INCLUDED IN IT. 
          UM, THIS SITE AT, UH, UH, 7 43 WILL RICE, UH, IT'S A, A TOWN HOME. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY AN IN-TOWN HOMES PROJECT. 
          UH, IT WAS BUILT IN 2014. 
          UH, AT THAT TIME IN 2015, IT WAS VALUED AT $405,000, AND IT HAS SINCE INCREASED TO $546,000, A 35% INCREASE OVER A SEVEN YEAR PERIOD. 
          THE NEXT CASE IS A LITTLE, UH, CLOSER TO, TO ADDISON. 
          UH, THIS IS DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON. 
          UM, SO, UH, REALLY OVER THE LAST, UH, DECADE AND, AND REALLY THE FRONT HALF OF THE LAST DECADE, UH, THERE WAS A SERIES OF INFILL MULTI-FAMILY AND MIXED USE PROJECTS, SO MULTI-FAMILY AND RETAIL, UH, BUILT AT THE EASTERN EDGE OF DOWNTOWN. 
          UM, AND, UH, THERE IS AN EXISTING, UH, SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD OF OLDER HOMES, LARGER LOTS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT. 
          SO WE LOOKED AT, UH, ONE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT. 
          UM, AT THAT TIME WHEN THOSE APARTMENTS KICKED OFF, IT WAS VALUED AT $82,000. 
          UH, IT HAS NEARLY DOUBLED IN VALUE, UH, GOING TO $159,000 IN 2022. 
          NEXT CASE STUDY IS IN DALLAS. 
          UH, THIS IS IN THE LOWEST GREENVILLE AREA, SO, UH, KIND OF WHERE THE TRADER JOE'S IS AND, UH, WHERE MUCH OF THE, UH, RESTAURANTS AND BARS ARE. 
          THIS IS AT THE NORTHERN EDGE OF LOIS GREENVILLE. 
          UH, THIS IS THE, UH, ALEXA PROJECT. 
          IT'S A MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT THAT WAS, UH, COMPLETED IN 2019. 
          UH, LOOKING AT A SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY THAT PREEXISTED THAT MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT THAT'S, UH, SITUATED IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH. 
          UH, IT SAW A 28% INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUE OVER A THREE-YEAR PERIOD, GOING FROM 372,000 TO 476,000. 
          OUR LAST CASE STUDY IS IN DOWNTOWN FARMER'S BRANCH, UH, ADJACENT TO THE TRANSIT STATION. 
          SO, UH, THERE WERE SEVERAL MULTI-FAMILY AND SINGLE, A SINGLE FAMILY PROJECT CONSTRUCTED, UH, BEGINNING IN 2013, UH, WITH CONSTRUCTION COMPLETING IN 2019. 
          UH, SO WE LOOKED AT A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME, UH, BUILT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO A, A MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING, UH, THAT INCREASED, UH, OVER A SEVEN YEAR PERIOD, UH, BY 23%, UH, GOING FROM 329,000 TO 450,000 IN VALUE. 
          SO, AS A COMPARISON, UH, I SELECTED AND RANDOMLY SELECTED A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME IN THE, UH, LAY LOCK NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, ONE OF THE CUL-DE-SAC STREETS. 
          UM, AND WHEN COMPARING THE CHANGE IN PROPERTY VALUE, UH, BY PERCENTAGE OVER THE SAME TIME PERIODS AS THOSE SIX CASE STUDIES, UH, FIVE OF THE SIX CASE STUDIES OUTPERFORMED, UH, THIS SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY. 
          THE ONLY ONE THAT DID NOT WAS THE FARMER'S BRANCH EXAMPLE. 
          I THINK THERE COULD BE A, A VARIETY OF REASONS FOR THAT. 
          WHAT I WOULD SUSPECT IS IT PROBABLY HAD THE MOST STARK TRANSITION IN TERMS OF DENSITY AND FORM, UH, WITH IT BEING A DETACHED 
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HOME, UH, A DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO A TRANSIT STATION. 
          THAT'S A, A SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL CONDITION, UH, NOT A BAD CONDITION, BUT SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL. 
          BUT, UH, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD SUSPECT PROBABLY IS DRIVING, UH, THAT LOWER PERFORMANCE. 
          BUT THE OTHER FIVE, SOME OF THEM QUITE SUBSTANTIALLY OUTPERFORMED, UH, THIS, UH, RANDOMLY SELECTED HOME IN THE LAY LOCKS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO, UH, BASED ON, UH, JUST THIS ROUGH ANALYSIS AND WHAT WE INTUITIVELY KNOW ABOUT, UH, URBAN DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO OTHER CONTEXTS AND ADJACENT TO OWNERSHIP HOUSING, WE, WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT IT DOES HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES, AND CERTAINLY IT DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT PROPERTY VALUES. 
          AND I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN ADDISON OVER TIME AS WELL. 
          UM, I'LL CONCLUDE WITH MY PORTION OF THIS PRESENTATION. 
          UH, ONCE AGAIN, REITERATING HOW WE IN, WE CONCLUDED OUR PRESENTATION, UH, ON THE 15TH IN THAT, UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO INITIATE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. 
          UH, WE'RE READY TO START MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PROCESS. 
          SO, UM, WITH THAT, WE ANTICIPATE, UH, BEGINNING WORK ON A RFP OR RFQ PROCESS TO ENGAGE A PLANNING CONSULTANT, UH, TO ASSIST TOWN STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY WITH DEVELOPING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM THIS WILL INCLUDE, UH, DEVELOPING A SHARED UNDERSTANDING OF CURRENT CONDITIONS IN ADDISON, AND ULTIMATELY REACHING A CONSENSUS VISION, UH, FOR THE FUTURE IN ADDISON. 
          WITH THAT, WE'LL THEN DEVELOP POLICIES FOR HOUSING, LAND USE REDEVELOPMENT THAT ALIGNS WITH THAT VISION, AND THEN WE'LL TIE THAT VISION AND THOSE POLICIES IN WITH THE MANY OTHER POLICIES THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS TO REALLY CREATE A, A, UH, A, UH, COHESIVE COMBINED STRATEGY FOR COUNCIL CITY MANAGEMENT AND STAFF TO, TO IMPLEMENT WITH COMMUNITY. 
          UH, WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO, UH, PAUL SPENCER TO ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY QUESTIONS. 
          QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          . 
          NO, I WANTED TO SAY, I, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS GOING THROUGH AND DOING THE ANALYSIS OF THE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT AREAS BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THOSE DEALS THAT I KNEW IN MY HEAD. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN TELL YOU IF LIKE I TOOK MY HOUSE AND PLOPPED IT A MILE AWAY FROM WHERE IT IS OUTTA ADDISON, I'M NOT GONNA SAY ANY OTHER TOWN, IT'D BE AT LEAST $150,000 LESS IN VALUE. 
          I MEAN, OUR VALUES ARE, ARE GOOD BECAUSE, AND I REALIZED THIS WHEN I MOVED INTO TOWN, WHEN I MOVED IN, 12% OF THE HOUSE WERE SINGLE FAMILY. 
          THE ONE THING I GOT OUTTA ECON 1 0 1 WAS SUPPLY AND DEMAND. 
          I KNEW THAT I MOVED HERE, THERE WAS HARDLY ANY HOUSES, SO MY HOUSE VALUE WAS GONNA STAY HIGH BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A LIMITED SUPPLY, RIGHT? FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. 
          ONE OTHER THING I'VE, THIS HAS TO DO WITH VALUATION AND STUFF. 
          SO IN MY SPARE TIME, I DON'T KNOW WHY I LIKE TO DO THIS. 
          I WENT THROUGH AND I TOOK THE AVERAGE VALUATION PER ACRE OF ALL THE TOWNS IN DALLAS COUNTY, RIGHT? SO ISLAND PARK AND UP ARE ABOUT SIX AND A HALF MILLION AN ACRE. 
          ADDISON'S 2.2, THE NEXT CLOSEST, THERE'S ABOUT FOUR OF 'EM THAT ARE 1.3. 
          SO WE'RE OVER ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN ALL OF OUR COMPETITOR CITIES. 
          AND JUST IN VALUATION, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY IT'S HARD FOR US TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          LAND COST US SO MUCH VERY EXPENSE. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          UH, 10, I, I'M INTERESTED ON THE, ON THESE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU HAVE OF THESE CASE STUDIES, IT SEEMS THAT OUT OF THE LAST TWO, LET'S SEE, FOUR OR FIVE AND SIX, CAN YOU COMMENT ON THESE, ON THESE AERIAL THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, ESPECIALLY LIKE NUMBER FIVE, THERE'S DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY BUFFER OF ANY KIND AROUND THAT. 
          SO WHAT'S HARD TO SEE FROM THE AERIAL IN CASE STUDY NUMBER FIVE IS, UM, THIS MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING IS WRAPPED BY RENTAL TOWN HOMES. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE SAME PROJECT. 
          SO YOU, SO YOU HAVE A TRANSITION IN HEIGHTS, UH, WITH THOSE RENTAL TOWN HOMES AND A TRANSITION IN DENSITY TO TRY TO, UM, NOT DISSIMILAR BUT MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN WHAT WE SAY DID WITH, UH, THE AMLE TREEHOUSE PROJECT WHERE WE HAD THE OPEN SPACE AND THE TOWNHOMES AS A TRANSITION. 
          THIS IS DOING THAT IN A MUCH MORE COMPACT AND URBAN WAY, UH, SUCCESSFULLY, OBVIOUSLY IF THERE, THAT, IF THAT PROPERTY IS INCREASING NEXT TO IT, RIGHT? IS THAT 28%? UH, THE OTHER, HOW ABOUT IS, IS THAT SIMILAR? SIMILAR OVER HERE? UH, NUMBER FOUR, UH, THAT IS A VERY ABRUPT TRANSITION. 
          IT'S NOT A FIVE STORY BUILDING. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S A THREE TO FOUR STORY BUILDING ON THAT SIDE OF THE PROJECT, 
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BUT IT IS, IT IS MULTI-FAMILY FRONTING ON ONE STREET AND SINGLE FAMILY, LOW DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED SIDING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET. 
          UM, INTERESTINGLY, YOU DO HAVE, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE BIT HERE AND THERE. 
          IF YOU GO TO THE SITE, IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, UH, MUCH MORE APPARENT. 
          SOMEONE TORE DOWN A HOME AND IS REBUILDING, UH, WHAT APPEARS TO BE A VERY EXPENSIVE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOME ON A DECENT LAWN. 
          I WOULD BE VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THE PROPERTY VALUE INCREASE BY BIG MARGIN, UH, IN FARMER'S BRANCH AROUND BROOKHAVEN CLUB DRIVE AND VITRUVIAN. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, SINCE WE DID THIS VITRUVIAN DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND I BET, YOU KNOW, SINCE ALL I KNOW IS ALL THE NEIGHBORS LIVE THERE, NOT A FRIEND OF MINE, THEY ARE VERY PLEASED. 
          SO THEY ARE HAPPIER THAN EVEN OUR PEOPLE LIVING LELAND  BECAUSE IT'S SO ADJACENT TO THEM. 
          USED TO BE RUNDOWN APARTMENTS, RIGHT? RIGHT NOW IT IS MORE UPDATED, BEAUTIFUL ENVIRONMENT. 
          SO THEY PROBABLY VERY WIND UP, UP SKY HIGH. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE TIME, YOU KNOW, DO SOME ANALYSIS, SO TO SHOW EDISON RESIDENT WHAT THAT HAS BROUGHT TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF JUST EDISON. 
          WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. 
          MARY. 
          YEAH. 
          EVEN THE PROPERTY VALUES OF THE TOWNHOUSES OF ADDISON THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT TO PRO TRIBU, BUT IN ADDISON. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? NOPE. 
          GOOD JOB. 
          GOOD, THANK YOU. 
          NOT YET, CHIEF. 
          I MAKE SURE I HAVE A, MY HEARING . 
          I'LL TRY TO TALK LOUD. 
          , GET MAYOR COUNSEL PAUL SPENCER, CHIEF OF POLICE. 
          UH, MY PURPOSE TONIGHT, JUST ON THESE FEW SLIDES THAT WE HAVE, IS JUST TO EXPAND ON MY PRESENTATION WE HAD AT THE TOWN MEETING LAB ON THAT WEDNESDAY, UH, SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE COMMUNITY CRIME MAPS, HOW IT'S USED, WHY IT'S USED, AND ALSO TALK ABOUT CRIME DATA WITHIN, UH, THE, THOSE TWO AREAS. 
          THE ONE, B2 B, WHICH IS FOR TRULY S UM, AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA RESTATE WHAT I SAID ALREADY, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE COMMITTEE CRIME MAPS WEB SITE IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN US AND, UM, A THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE PROVIDER, LEXUS NEXUS THAT WAS CREATED IN 2015, OR USED, OR WE STARTED USING IT IN 2015 AS A WAY TO BE TRANSPARENT THAT THE OUTCRY FROM THE COMMUNITY WAS, THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, AND THEY WERE ASKING FOR SOME ASSISTANCE WITH THAT. 
          AND SO WE DID THAT. 
          UM, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THAT IS JUST A BIRD'S EYE VIEW. 
          IT IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE INITIAL CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT ARE GOING OUT. 
          IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE A, UH, A CRIME OR A TRUE CRIME ANALYSIS TOOL. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S FOR. 
          UM, IT, AND IT'S NOT INTENDED TO SHOW EVERY OUTCOME. 
          WE'RE GONNA GET INTO, UH, HOW THAT WORKS HERE IN JUST A SECOND. 
          UH, THERE'S SOME SPECIFIC ISSUES, ESPECIALLY WHERE, UH, IT ONLY TELLS A PART OF A STORY BECAUSE UNLESS OUR OFFENSES ARE NOT INCLUDED, OTHER THINGS, THE FINAL INVESTIGATIVE OUTCOMES, THE FINAL I CONCLUSION OF, OF THE CASE, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, IT'S, IT'S NOT THERE. 
          IT'S THE INITIAL COMPONENT. 
          SO TO START OFF, I'D LIKE TO JUST EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT, UH, OF HOW, AGAIN, HOW COMMITTEE CRIME MAPS, LABELS THE OFFENSES THAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU PULL UP THE WEBSITE. 
          UH, THEY HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF OFFENSE TYPES. 
          UH, THOSE ARE THEIR CATEGORIES. 
          THEY'RE BROAD CATEGORY TYPES, NOT INTENDED TO BE, UH, SPECIFIC. 
          AND JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW, IT'S THE KIND OF THE, THE, THE REPORTS COME IN, UH, AND PUT IN THOSE BUCKETS FOR DISORDERLY CONDUCT. 
          WE HAVE FIVE SEPARATE OFFENSES INSTEAD OF TEXAS THAT ARE ALL INCLUDED IN THE GENERAL DISORDERLY CONDUCT CALL TYPE ON LE ON THE COMMUNITY CRIME MAPS WEBSITE. 
          SAME THING WITH AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. 
          WE HAVE THE FIVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS THAT TEXAS LISTS IN THE TEXAS PENAL CODE. 
          AND IT'S LISTED JUST IN A GENERIC AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, UH, CATEGORY TYPE. 
          AND TO EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE LIFE CYCLE OF CRIME AND, AND, AND HOW WE DO OUR JOB. 
          REALLY, THE LEXUSNEXUS WEBSITE, THE COMMUNITY CRIME MESS WEBSITE, IS ONLY CAPTURING REALLY THAT NUMBER ONE STEP, THE FIRST STEP WHERE THE CALL IS RECEIVED. 
          SO WHEN A POLICE OFFICER GETS A CALL, LET'S SAY IT'S A, IT'S AN ASSAULT CALL, WE GET THERE, THE VICTIM IS THERE, THE COMPLAINANT THAT CALLED US, WE'RE GONNA INTERVIEW THEM, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT ANY EVIDENCE THAT'S THERE. 
          IF THE SUSPECT IS NOT THERE, WE'RE BASICALLY HAVING TO TAKE THAT PERSON'S VERSION OF THE STORY, RIGHT? AND WE'RE NOT GONNA TRY TO TALK PEOPLE IN OR OUT OF ANYTHING. 
          THAT'S NOT OUR JOB. 
          WE, WE WANNA BE, UH, THE LIAISON FOR THEM TO LET THEM TELL THEIR STORY AND TO SEEK JUSTICE FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE TO THEM. 
          SO IF A PERSON SAYS THAT THEIR SIGNIFICANT OTHER, OR A, A ROOMMATE 
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BRANDISHED A WEAPON, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THAT'S AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. 
          AND SO THE OFFICER'S GONNA WRITE THAT UP, IT'S GONNA GET FILED. 
          STEP TWO IS THE REPORT GETS WRITTEN, IT GOES TO A SUPERVISOR, SUPERVISOR APPROVES IT BASED ON SOME CRITERIA. 
          SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. 
          AND THEN IT GOES TO THE INVESTIGATORS WHERE IT'S ASSIGNED, UH, TO, TO THEM. 
          UH, THE INVESTIGATOR'S GONNA LOOK AT IT. 
          THEY MAY BRING THE SPOUSE OR THE CIVIC ON OTHER END, OR THE ROOMMATE IN INTERVIEW THAT PERSON. 
          AND A LOT OF TIMES, UH, THE STORY IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS TWO SIDES OF A STORY AND MAYBE THE WEAPON WASN'T INVOLVED AND SO NOW IT'S, IT'S DROPS DOWN AND THEN MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE OCCURS AND THE VICTIM DOESN'T EVEN WANNA PRESS CHARGE THING OR HE ULTIMATELY GETS DROPPED. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO EXPLAIN WITH THIS SLIDE IS THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT ENDS UP GOING FROM WHEN THAT INITIAL CALL RESERVES, THE REPORT IS TAKEN TO WHEN WE FINALLY GET A CASE FILE, IT'S PROSECUTED DALLAS COUNTY CRIMINAL COURT, AND THE PERSON EITHER GOES TO JAIL OR, OR YOU KNOW, PROBATION, WHATEVER THEY HAVE, WHATEVER THE JUDGE DECIDES. 
          UM, COMMUNITY CRIME MAP IS ONLY, SNAP IS ONLY A SNAPSHOT. 
          IT'S ONLY TALKING ABOUT THAT VERY FIRST, UH, STEP ON THIS, ON THIS CHART. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT NUMBER ROUTE, LIKE NUMBER TWO PROBABLY, RIGHT? WELL, REALLY IT'S GONNA BE OUR, OUR CALL RECEIVED, RIGHT? IT'S ONE AND TWO. 
          IT IS BETWEEN ONE AND TWO. 
          SO YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT GETS ON ONTO THE MAP AND THEN A LOT OF STUFF HAPPENS AFTER THAT, RIGHT? AND, AND NOW I'M GONNA GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON THAT NEXT STEP. 
          SO LET'S LOOK AT THE, THERE WAS THE, UM, UH, AT THE RECENT MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT THE EIGHT, UH, AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS DURING THIS, THE TIME PERIOD OF DECEMBER 21 TO NOVEMBER 22. 
          UH, WANTED TO LOOK AT THOSE EIGHT AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS AGAIN, THAT THOSE, THOSE INCIDENTS DID HAPPEN. 
          IT'S, WE'RE NOT SAYING IT DIDN'T, BUT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO SAY IS, LOOK, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY CRIME MAPS WITH SOME CONTEXT, RIGHT? THERE'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND AND THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO EXPLAIN THIS TO THE PUBLIC OR PUT ANYTHING ON C ANY CRIME MAPS. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN HOW IT REALLY WORKS. 
          UH, OF THOSE A EIGHT AGGRAVATED ASSAULT REPORTS, WE'VE GOT, UH, FIVE OR FAMILY VIOLENCE THAT CAN BE HUSBAND AND WIFE, BOYFRIEND, GIRLFRIEND, OR SIMPLY ROOMMATES THAT, UM, WE HAD TWO OTHER AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS THAT THE SUSPECTS WERE FULLY KNOWN TO THE COMPLAINANT OR THE VICTIM. 
          AND THEN WE HAD ONE THAT WAS PARTIALLY KNOWN. 
          AGAIN, MY COMMENTS FROM LAST TIME, ONE OF THOSE EIGHT IS A POLICE OFFICER THAT WAS BIT IN THE BACK BITTEN IN THE BACK OF AN AMBULANCE. 
          AND THAT IT HAPPENS A LOT TO OUR OFFICERS. 
          THEY GET ASSAULTED ON, NOT ROUTINELY, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN. 
          BUT THEN YOU DIG INTO THE FAMILY VIOLENCE AND THE, THE KNOWN SUSPECTS, AND WE, WE ACTUALLY FILED THREE CASES. 
          TWO, THE VICTIMS DIDN'T WISH TO COOPERATE ONCE THE INVESTIGATORS CONTACTED 'EM. 
          SO THE CASES WERE DROPPED. 
          UM, THAT HAPPENED, THAT HAPPENS A LOT, ESPECIALLY WITH FAMILY VIOLENCE, ROOMMATES. 
          PEOPLE GET UPSET AND IT GETS EMOTIONAL. 
          THINGS HAPPEN. 
          AND THEN WHEN EVERYBODY CALMS DOWN, YOU KNOW, THEY STILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE PERSON AND, AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          AND USUALLY, USUALLY THAT THAT GOES AWAY. 
          BUT THAT'S, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALARMING TO LOOK AT COMMUNITY CRIME APPS SOMETIMES, CUZ YOU SEE ALL THESE THINGS HAPPENING AND WITHOUT CONTEXT, IT'S, IT'S, UH, APPLIED TO IT. 
          IT USUALLY, IT'S MUCH, MUCH LESS THAN WHAT IT'S, AND SO SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS AFTER THE MEETING FOR FOLLOW UP WAS, OKAY, WELL, SO THEN WHAT'S THE TRUE, WHAT'S THE TRUE CRIME DATA DOWN THERE? WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON? UM, AGAIN, AS A REMINDER, WE USE OUR NEIGHBORS NATIONAL INCIDENT BASED REPORTING. 
          THAT WAS A CHANGE IN 2020 FROM THE UCR, THE UNIFIED CRIME REPORTING, UNIFORM CRIME REPORTING. 
          UM, WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IN THIS, WITH THIS SLIDE IS SHOW AGAIN, BEAT ONE, WHICH IS THE PROT TRUVEN AREA. 
          UH, I KNOW WE, THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, OKAY, WHAT APARTMENTS ARE INCLUDED IN THAT? SO 37 21 SPRING VALLEY IS IN, IS IN ONE BEAT, 14 500 MARSH, 14 600. 
          MARSH APARTMENTS ARE IN 14 700, WHICH IS WATERFORD ISN'T IS IN TWO. 
          SO THAT'S THE LINE. 
          THE LINE REALLY FOR ONE AND TWO BEAT GOES BETWEEN 14, UH, 614, 700 MARSH ACROSS WHERE OUR TRAIL GOES DOWN BY THE DOG PARK ON, UH, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LOWE'S FIELD AND THEN OVER TO GREEN HILL. 
          AND THEN SOUTH OF THAT IS ALL ONE B. 
          AND AGAIN, SO HERE WE'RE, WE'RE WE WANNA MAKE SURE TOO, FOR THIS PURPOSE OF THIS SLIDE, THIS DATA, THIS IS OUR TRUE CRIME LEDGE DATA HAS ACTUALLY GOT MORE INFORMATION THAN WHAT COMMUNITY CRIME MAPS HAS IN IT. 
          UH, THIS IS FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO THIS SLIDE CONTAINS BOTH. 
          RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO PULL, UH, IF WE WANT TO PULL SEPARATE THE BUSINESS OR COMMERCIAL FROM RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S A MANUAL PROCESS FOR, FOR, FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFF. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, FOR, FOR BEAT ONE AND B2, ALL THESE OFFENSES ARE, ARE PROVOKED. 
          AND AGAIN, WE TRIED TO PARSE IT OUT, UM, AND SHOW THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS. 
          AGAIN, JUST, JUST SO PEOPLE HAVE A, A COMPARISON AND THEN SHOW THE DIFFERENCES IN THE NUMBERS. 
          UH, FOR EACH ONE, JUST AS, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS ALL OTHER OFFENSES IS THE BOTTOM ONE. 
          UH, THAT, THAT INCLUDES A LOT OF JUVENILE OFFENSES TO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE CATEGORIZED. 
          THE ALL OF THE LARGE THESE ARE IS A LARGE COMPONENT OF, UH, MONEY TRANSFERS, CASH APP OFFENSES, CREDIT CARD THEFTS FROM SHOPPING CENTERS, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE ILLEGAL, SOMEBODY 
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THAT TAKES, TAKES SOMETHING OUTTA SHOPPING CART LIKE A PURSE OR A WALLET. 
          AND REALLY EVERYTHING THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN A HOUSE OR CAR GOES INTO THE ALL OF THE LARCENY CATEGORY. 
          JUST SO EVERYBODY'S CLEAR. 
          WHAT ABOUT THE ALL OTHER LARCENY? WHAT'S THE, UM, WHAT KIND OF THINGS ARE IN THAT BUCKET? THAT, THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S IF IT'S NOT IN A CAR OR A HOUSE. 
          OKAY, THAT ONE. 
          SO IF YOU'RE SHOPPING AT A, YOU HAVE YOUR PURSE OR SHOPPING CARD AND YOUR WALLET GETS TAKEN OUT OF IT, OKAY, THAT'S ALL AT LARCENY. 
          OKAY. 
          IF IT'S A CREDIT CARD, CASH APP FRAUD, THAT KIND OF STUFF, IT GOES UNDER UNDER ALL OF THOSE. 
          ALL OTHER GOTCHA. 
          OKAY. 
          AND REALLY FOR US, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THEFTS FOR MOTOR VEHICLES ARE, THAT INCLUDES THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER THEFTS. 
          UM, WE'VE SEEN A HUGE INCREASE IN THAT. 
          THERE'S AN, THERE'S A AGENDA ITEM LATER TONIGHT THAT IS UPPER CONSIDERATION THAT'LL HELP US COMBAT SOME OF THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THE, THE DRUNKENNESS, UH, AGAIN, ALL OF THE LARCENY IS, IS FAIRLY HIGH, BUT YOU SEE THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A, A LOT, UM, OF SERIOUS CRIME. 
          AND THAT'S CONSISTENT IN ALL OF OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WHETHER IT'S MULTI TIER SIGNIFICATION, MAJORITY OF OURS, IF YOU WANT TO SAY SERIOUS CRIME OCCURS IN COMMERCIAL SECTOR. 
          AND AGAIN, TO RESTATE FROM LAST TIME, 75, 80 5% OF OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE AND OFFENSES COME OUTTA THE COMMERCIAL SECTOR, WHICH INCLUDES HOTELS, THE BARS, THE RESTAURANTS, AND ALL THE, THE BUSINESS DISTRICTS. 
          CAN YOU EXPLAIN AGAIN, FOR THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SIMPLE ASSAULT AND AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT? SO, SIMPLE ASSAULT IS, IF I GO UP, I TURN TO AN ARM AND YOU FEEL THAT'S OFFENSIVE, THAT'S SIMPLE ASSAULT. 
          TYPICALLY THAT'S HANDLED IN MUNICIPAL COURT CAUSE IT'S CLASS C VIOLATION. 
          UM, AND THEN AS THE SEVERITY OF INJURY OR THE PERSON'S AGE, IF IT'S A, A CHILD OR AN ELDERLY PERSON OR DISABLED PERSON, THEN THERE'S SOME AGGRAVATED EVIDENCE. 
          SO GO BACK, UH, MAKE SURE I COVER ALL THE QUESTIONS. 
          O OVERALL, AND AGAIN, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS WITH AN ANNUAL REPORT PRESENTATION IN MARCH. 
          NOW WE'VE SEEN A SLIGHT INCREASE IN OUR CRIME STATS FOR 2022. 
          A LOT OF THAT IS, IS MOSTLY THEFTS CAUSE OF CATTLE AND MURDER ISSUES. 
          CATHOLIC FIRST THEFT IS, IS A BIG DEAL RIGHT NOW. 
          SO OVER OVERALL, OUR CRIME STATS ARE VERY GOOD. 
          UM, AGAIN, TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, WE DON'T SELECT EITHER APARTMENT COMPLEXES OR, OR BUSINESSES SPECIFICALLY RUN NI R'S DATA ON THAT. 
          WE DO IT, UH, FOR THE WHOLE TOWN IN AGGREGATE. 
          AND THEN OUR, OUR CRIME ANALYSIS, OUR CRIME ANALYSTS AND OUR INVESTIGATORS WILL GO IN, IF WE START SEEING FLAREUPS OF CRI CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IN CERTAIN AREAS, THEN THEY HAVE TO MANUALLY PULL ALL THAT STUFF OUT AND LOOK AT IT. 
          SO WHEN I SAY OUR NI'S DATA IS FOR THE WHOLE TOWN AND THAT'S ALL WE USE IT FOR, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT SPECIFIC, UH, ISSUES WITHIN CERTAIN PARTS OF TOWN. 
          WE, IT'S JUST, IT'S A MANUAL PROCESS. 
          AND SO WE ONLY DO IT WHEN WE NEEDED, COUPLED WITH OUR LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION PROGRAM AND OPTICAL CAMERA PROGRAMS, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD SENSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN TOWN AND, UH, WE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS WITH OUR RESOURCES ACCORDINGLY. 
          SO IF I COULD JUST HOW US ADD A COUPLE THINGS. 
          UM, FIRST OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT THE, THE MOST IDEAL WAY. 
          WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GET GRANULAR AND SAY, HERE'S THE EXACT, HOW MUCH WAS IT FOR TRUVIA WAS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE CONVERSATION, BUT THIS IS THE BEST DATA WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. 
          AND REALLY TO TAKE THAT DEEP DIVE, I FEEL LIKE THIS HELPS TO FRAME THE CONVERSATION THAT Y'ALL WANT TO ADD AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THE CONVERSATION GOES IF WE NEED TO HAVE MORE. 
          AND I WOULD ALSO SAY CHIEF SPENCER'S NOT UP HERE SAYING PROVS PERFECT. 
          THERE'S NO ISSUES ON PRO TRIVION. 
          THEY HAVEN'T WORKED WITH THE PROPERTY MANAGER AT VITRUVIAN. 
          THERE CERTAINLY ARE ISSUES AT VITRUVIAN, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE PIECES THAT COULD BE TAKEN AWAY FROM THIS IS THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE. 
          AND WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN ONE PLACE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MORE ISSUES. 
          YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE POLICE CALLED MORE. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN CONTEXT AS THEY'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION. 
          NOT TO SWAY ONLY OR ANOTHER, BUT, UH, TO GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT TO WHAT CHIEF SAYS. 
          AND I I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, HE IS NOT COMING UP HERE SAYING, MA TRIVIAN IS PERFECT AND THERE'S NO ISSUE. 
          SO DON'T WANNA PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH. 
          NO, ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND THERE'S, AGAIN, WE SAW THIS WHEN AS THE CIRCLE FIRST CAME ONLINE, IT'S A YOUNGER CROWD, RIGHT? I MEAN, I'M 50, ALMOST 53 YEARS OLD. 
          I'M NOT STAYING OUT UNTIL TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. 
          I'M NOT BRINGING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW, HOME TO MY APARTMENT TO HAVE A PARTY AFTER WE BEEN THE BAR ALL NIGHT. 
          YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF THESE OFFENSES, THESE, ESPECIALLY IN VITRUVIAN , IT'S A YOUNG, IT'S A YOUNG POPULATION AND THEY DO STUFF THAT WE DON'T DO WHEN WE, WHEN WE GET OLDER AND GOOD, GOOD, GOOD THING. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR US TOO, AND IT SPILLOVER, WE, WE, IT'S ANECDOTAL RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT, UH, EVIDENCE THAT THERE'S A SPILLOVER OF CRIME INTO SINGLE FAMILY FROM MULTIFAMILY, RIGHT? SO IF APARTMENT COMPLEX IS NEXT DOOR TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, WE'VE, WE'VE NOT SEEN ANY DIRECT CORRELATION OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. 
          WE HAVE SEEN THAT WITH OUR HOTELS AND OUR BARS. 
          WHAT WOULD BE EVIDENCE OF THAT? UH, LET'S SEE. 
          WE START GETTING CARS BROKEN INTO IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE START LOOKING AT CERTAIN PLACES AROUND TOWN TO SEE WHO'S MOVED IN, WHO'S, WHO'S, WHO'S A NEW, RIGHT? SO IF HOTELS ESPECIALLY, WE START LOOKING TO SEE WHO'S THERE AND WE 
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TRACK THAT SPECIFICALLY TO, OR NO. 
          AND AGAIN, HOW, HOW IS THAT DETERMINED? YOU'RE NOT SEEING THAT? IS THAT A IT'S GOOD POLICE WORK? YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT OUR CRIME ANALYSTS AND OUR INVESTIGATORS KNOW, WE KNOW TOWN, WE KNOW THE TOWN AND, AND WE ALL JUST START LOOKING WHERE THE EVIDENCE LEADS TO US. 
          A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, EVIDENCE FROM RING CAMERAS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          OUR OWN OPTICAL CAMERA SYSTEMS. WE START AGAIN, IT'S JUST GOOD POLICE WORK, BUT WE HAVE SEEN, IT'S NOT FREQUENT AND IT'S NOT RAMPANT. 
          BUT THERE IS, UH, TIMES WHEN WE HAVE SPILLOVER FROM, FROM THOSE TWO SECTORS. 
          I I, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE 2015 WHEN, UH, LEXUS NEXUS WAS FIRST YES SIR. 
          UH, CONSIDERED TO BE ADVERTISED OR USED ON THE WEBSITE, ON OUR TOWN WEBSITE. 
          BACK THEN, YOU RECALL WHAT WAS THE DRIVING ISSUE OR WAS THERE AN ISSUE TO, TO, TO INCLUDE IT, UH, FOR UH, INFORMATION DISTRIBUTION WITH, UH, BY THE TOWN? YES. 
          SO HISTORICALLY THE TOWN, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT CRIME PUBLICLY REALLY. 
          WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY PUBLICLY. 
          THERE WASN'T ANY, THERE WEREN'T ANY TOOLS THAT THE COMMITTEE COULD LOOK AT OR WE COULD TALK ABOUT TO SAY WHAT WAS GOING ON AROUND. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS, THERE WAS A LOT OF SPECULATION. 
          THERE WAS SOME DISTRUST, ESPECIALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT WE WEREN'T TELLING THEM THE STORY FOR A REASON. 
          AND SO WE TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO WORK WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OF TIME TO HAVE COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY AND TRY TO OFFER AS MUCH INSIGHT TO WHAT WAS TRULY GOING ON IN THE TOWN. 
          UM, I GAVE MANY PRESENTATIONS TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOA GROUPS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL, ALL THE STUFF WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT NOW. 
          SURE. 
          UM, EVERYTHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW, IT'S, WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BACK THEN IN 2015. 
          AND SO AGAIN, IT'S A TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX TO TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME INSIGHT TO WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          AND WE KNEW, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. 
          WE KNEW WE WERE GONNA HAVE SOME PROBLEMS POSSIBLY WITH THE APPEARANCE, THE OPTICS. 
          SO, CAUSE WE PUT, AND I TELL PEOPLE WHEN I USED TO TRAIN THEM HOW TO USE THE WEBSITES LIKE BE CAREFUL, DON'T COLORFUL ICONS AND, AND POPUPS, YOU KNOW, FREAK OUT CUZ IT'S GONNA LOOK CRAZY. 
          BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, JUST CALL US. 
          IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, EMAIL US AND WE'LL TRY TO ANSWER THE BEST WE CAN. 
          SOME OF THAT WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT OPEN CASES, SOME OF IT'S OPEN RECORDS, YOU KNOW, PROCESS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE GONNA TELL PEOPLE THERE'S A PROBLEM. 
          THOSE OTHER PART OF THE DISCUSSION BACK THEN WAS, WELL, HOW DO I KNOW IF I'M SAFE? ALL THESE INCIDENTS GOING AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW DO I KNOW, WHEN DO I NEED TO BE WORRIED? AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TELEGRAPH. 
          WE'RE GONNA COMMUNICATE THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT MEDIA WE HAVE WITHIN THE TOWN. 
          IF IT'S REALLY, REALLY SERIOUS, WE MAY EVEN USE HER FIRST TIME A ONE AND POLICE OFFICERS, INVESTIGATORS GOING DOOR TO DOOR AND TELLING PEOPLE, STAY IN YOUR HOME. 
          WE'RE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT, THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVER HAPPENED IN HISTORY THAT I'VE WORKED HERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, BUT NINE TIMES OUTTA 10 PEOPLE JUST GET CONCERNED CAUSE THEY SEE IT IS, IT CAN BE ALARMING IF YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, FIVE AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS RIGHT AROUND YOUR HOUSE IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          BUT MOST OF THAT STUFF, IF I COULD, IF I COULD MAKE ONE COMMENT ABOUT THAT, NOT TO, NOT TO INTERRUPT YOUR LINE OF QUESTIONING, BUT, UM, I LIVE IN A, THE ALLEGRO COMMUNITY AND ACROSS THE STREET, UH, ARE TOWN HOMES ALONG SPECTRUM. 
          AND SO, UH, MAJORITY OF THEM ARE, UM, THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THEM, LIVE IN THEM. 
          SOME ARE LEAST BUT MOST, AND THEY LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM TWO APARTMENT BUILDINGS WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE. 
          AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I CHOSE TO LIVE IN ADDISON CIRCLE, I MADE THE CHOICE TO LIVE IN AN URBAN COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, WHERE I GREW UP IN OKLAHOMA WHERE THERE'S A BUNCH OF ACRES OF NOTHING AND THERE'S NO SIRENS TO BE SEEN. 
          AND A LOT OF TIMES MY NEIGHBORS GET REALLY PARANOID IF THEY SEE SIRENS. 
          AND I'VE LIVED THERE NOW FOR SEVEN YEARS AND I'VE, I'VE, I I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE YOU SEE SIRENS AND YOU, YOU KNOW, OR YOU LOOK OUTSIDE AND YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW? AND IF YOU LOOK AT, AT WHAT A LOT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING, IT'S A LOT OF SOMEONE CALLED 9 1 1 BECAUSE SOMEONE'S DRUNK AND THEY GOT INTO A FIGHT AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN KIND OF START TO CATEGORIZE THEM AND KNOW THAT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND UM, UNLESS I MAKE THE CHOICE TO MOVE BACK TO OKLAHOMA AND LIVE ON A FARM WHERE THERE ARE NO SIRENS, THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE. 
          AND SO I THINK THERE'S, UM, I I I I I UNDER, BECAUSE I WALKED MY DOG TO THE PARK ACROSS THE STREET, AND SO I TALKED TO THOSE NEIGHBORS AND IT'S BEEN AN ONGOING CONVERSATION FOR YEARS. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO TO POINT THAT OUT, THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A RENTER, UH, IN AN URBAN, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ATTACHED TO A VERY LARGE CITY, UH, PART OF THE RISK THAT I TOOK AND THAT I CONTINUE TO TAKE, UM, IS THAT SOMETIMES I MIGHT SEE SIRENS. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING I WAS GONNA MENTION IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING ALL OF THIS, UH, YOU 
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KNOW, DATA ABOUT ADDISON, BUT IF YOU WERE TO DO A COMPARISON OF THIS KIND OF DATA OUTSIDE OF ADDISON, SO I, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE THAT USED TO BE MY NEIGHBORS AND THEY SAID, WELL WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE TO DALLAS ACROSS THE STREET AND PAY LESS MONEY. 
          AND I SAID, OKAY, WELL BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU CALL 9 1 1 YOUR LONG, YOUR WEIGHT MIGHT BE LONGER. 
          I'M JUST, I'M TELLING YOU. 
          BUT WE DON'T REALLY CALL THAT, YOU KNOW, NINE ONE ONE THAT MUCH. 
          WELL, WHEN YOU DO CALL 9 1 1, HOW IMPORTANT IS IT? SO IF YOU, IF WE WERE TO TAKE THIS DATA AND COMPARE IT TO, TO APARTMENT DATA IN ALL OF THE AREAS THAT SURROUND US AND THEN GO A LITTLE FURTHER OUT, GO OVER TOWARDS THE GALLERIA, IT WOULD REALLY START TO SEE, UH, THE REASON I CHOSE TO LIVE IN ADDISON AND WHERE I CHOSE WAS BECAUSE OF SAFETY. 
          THAT'S WHY I CHOSE ADDISON. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GREAT AND I DO LOVE TO DELVE IN ON THE ADDISON DATA TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN, BUT I THINK WHAT WOULD BE EVEN MORE ENLIGHTENING FOR MANY PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THAT IS THAT YOU CAN MOVE ACROSS THE STREET AND BE IN DALLAS PROPER AND HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT QUALITY OF LIFE EXPERIENCE. 
          AND THE REASON WE CHOOSE ADDISON, NOT JUST BECAUSE, NOT JUST FOR HOMEOWNERS WHOSE VAL, WHO YOU'VE GOT YOUR HOME VALUES THAT ARE SO MUCH BETTER, IS THAT I'LL PAY A $500 A MONTH PREMIUM TO LIVE IN ADDISON BECAUSE OF NOT JUST, UH, THE SAFETY, BUT THE COMMUNITY AND THE AMENITIES AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT I GET IN ADDISON. 
          SO, UH, BIGGER PICTURE, AND I KNOW I'M KIND OF DIGRESSING FROM THE, THE, THE POINT HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JUST TO KIND OF KEEP IN MIND THAT WE CHOOSE ADDISON BECAUSE OF ADDISON'S GREATNESS THAT'S COMPRISED OF SO MANY DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT ELEMENTS. 
          AND I'M NOT ABOUT TO LEAVE ADDISON , I'M NOT ABOUT TO LEAVE MY ADDISON POLICE OFFICERS AND MY A MY ADDISON FIREFIGHTERS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO RESPOND IF THERE IS AN ISSUE VERY QUICKLY. 
          SO, UM, ANYWAY, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALL GOOD STUFF. 
          BUT THERE'S, THERE'S EVEN MORE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO DRAW THIS OUT TO THE REGION, UM, A LOT MORE PEOPLE WOULD, WOULD BE MOVING TO ADDISON IF THEY COULD SEE NOT ONLY SAFETY, BUT IT'S ALSO THE CONVENIENCE. 
          SEE, I CAN WALK FROM WHERE I LIVING AT EMILY, JUST FIVE MINUTES TO WHERE I WORK. 
          ZEN. 
          NICE. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO CONVENIENCE, SAFE. 
          ALSO, NOT ONLY CONVENIENCE TO WORK, ALSO ALL KINDS OF RESTAURANT, YOU KNOW, NIGHTLIFE IF YOU CHOOSE, YOU KNOW, ALSO YOU MAINTAIN A LOT OF PRIVACY. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL THE PRIVACY AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN LOOK, LOOK, WE CAN ALL DO BETTER AT KNOCKING ON THE NEIGHBOR'S DOOR AND DOING THAT OLD-FASHIONED THING CALLED GET TO KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS. 
          WE CAN DO IT IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WE CAN DO IT IN TOWN HOMES, WE CAN DO IT IN APARTMENTS. 
          AND THE MORE WE DO THAT, UH, THE, THE SAFER WILL BE. 
          I KNOW IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A FREE THING THAT WE CAN DO ALL IT, ALL IT COSTS IS TIME. 
          SO CHIEF, I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH THE LEXUS NEXUS. 
          UH, IT IT, WHEN YOU OPEN THIS WEBSITE, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO, PEOPLE DON'T SPEND AS MUCH ATTENTION, UH, PAY THAT MUCH ATTENTION TO THE DISCLAIMERS THAT IT PROBABLY HAS ON THERE. 
          SO THEY PUT THEIR OWN THOUGHT, UH, THOUGHTS ONTO THE, THE EYE CANDY THAT THEY'RE SEEING AND THE ICONS. 
          IS IT, IS IT GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE, UH, MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER, UM, SOMETHING OTHER THAN LEXUSNEXUS IF IT'S AVAILABLE BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING WITH SOMETHING MORE UPDATED? THIS IS, SEEMS LIKE IT'S 15 YEAR OLD TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE PROMOTING AND PUTTING UP FRONT AS THOUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY GOSPEL, BUT UH, IT'S A LITTLE MISLEADING. 
          WE, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT, THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS OF I CAN GET WITH C MAYOR'S OFFICE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WANNA DO. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IF THERE'S ANY OTHER OPTIONS. 
          I KNOW THERE MAYBE ONE OR TWO OTHER SERVICES, BUT THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR AND CAUSE IT'S, I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD HERE. 
          IT'S, I WOULD THINK IT'S VERY, IT WOULD TAKE US HAVING TO, HAVING A STAFF MEMBER OR PROBABLY MORE CONSTANTLY UPDATING THAT THE, THE APP OR THE SERVICE THAT WE'RE USING. 
          BECAUSE AGAIN, GOING BACK TO MY LIFECYCLE EXAMPLES, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN AT SO MANY DIFFERENT STAGES OF 
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THE LIFECYCLE OF A CASE THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE A FULL-TIME JOB NONSTOP TO TRY TO UPDATE THAT. 
          AND I'M JUST, SO HERE ON 15, SLIDE 15 THAT YOU HAVE THERE, UH, I'M GONNA GO BACK AND FORTH 15, JUST THE A ZERO ONE COLUMN AND THE N I B R S CODES. 
          UM, HOW DOES THIS, HOW DO THESE NUMBERS FIT INTO THAT NUMBER 13, UH, SLIDE? WHERE ARE THESE IN THAT, IN THAT CIRCLE, IN THAT LIFE CYCLE OF A CRIME? WELL, THESE ARE ALL OFFENSES AND SO THE LIFE CYCLE IS GONNA BE AN EXAMPLE OF ANY OFFENSE. 
          IF, IF WE, IF WE TAKE A RE THE ONLY TIME THIS WOULDN'T APPLY IS IF IT'S WHAT WE CALL AN INFORMATION REPORT WHERE SOMEBODY JUST WANTS DOCUMENTATION, THERE'S NO FOLLOW UP FOR AN INVESTIGATOR, ALL THAT KIND OF THING. 
          IT, IT WOULD, IT WOULD STOP PRETTY MUCH AT NUMBER TWO ON THE OFFENSE, ON THE CIRCLE. 
          BUT ANY OFFENSE, REGARDLESS OF SEVERITY IS GONNA GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE WHEEL. 
          UNLESS, UNLESS SOMETHING STOPS IT ALONG THE WAY. 
          IF THE, IF THE VICTIM NO LONGER WANTS TO COOPERATE, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE APPROPRIATE EVIDENCE TO CONTINUE ON THE CASE, THERE'S JUST A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT CAN OCCUR. 
          SO, UH, GOING BACK TO THE 15 AGAIN, SORRY, THAT IS JUST WHAT'S THE REPORTS ARE THAT'S, THIS IS NUMBER TWO IN THAT BOOK CYCLE CUZ THESE ARE THE OFFENSE REPORTS. 
          UM, MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING. 
          SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          SO AGAIN, THE COMMITTEE CRIME MAPS IS JUST THE INITIAL REPORT TYPE THAT WAS GIVEN WHEN THE, THE CA THE, UH, THE DISPATCHER GAVE THAT OFFICER A REPORT NUMBER. 
          THE, THE NABERS OFFENSE IS THIS IS OUR TRUE CRIME DATA, IT'S GONNA EXCEED THE AMOUNT THAT'S ON THE, THE LEXUS NEXT WEBSITE. 
          SURE, SURE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND SO WE CAN HAVE, THERE'S, AND I, AGAIN, I'M, I'M SORRY I'M GETTING GET OFF THE WEE AND MAKE IT COMPLICATED, BUT RIGHT. 
          COURSE COMPLICATED PROCESS. 
          ONE, ONE INCIDENT CAN HAVE LESSER INCLUDED OFFENSES. 
          THEY CAN HAVE, YOU CAN HAVE ONE ONE CALL THAT GOES OUT WITH ONE REPORT NUMBER, BUT WE MAY HAVE MULTIPLE VICTIMS, WE MAY HAVE MULTIPLE OFFENSES AND SO IT CAN GROW SOME LEGS AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S MORE DATA IN THE NEIGHBOR'S DATA THAN THERE IS ON THE INITIAL COMMITTEE. 
          CRIME MAPS, UH, UH, WEBSITE, AGAIN, IT GETS VERY COMPLICATED VERY QUICKLY. 
          SO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A BIG FIGHT AT A BAR, WE HAVE MULTIPLE OFFENSES, MULTIPLE VICTIMS, MULTIPLE UH, SUSPECTS. 
          AND IT, IT JUST, IT GETS COMPLICATED NOW AND THAT'S GONNA ADD TO ALL THE DIFFERENT NIRS DATA, RIGHT? CUZ IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE ONE INCIDENT INCIDENT, IT'S ABOUT THE ACTUAL TRUE CRIME THAT OCCURRED. 
          AND EVERY TIME THERE'S A, THERE'S EVER THERE'S A VICTIM WITH A, AN OFFENSE OR A SUSPECT IS, IS ULTIMATELY ARRESTED AND CHARGED AND IT, IT ADDS TO THAT LIST. 
          DID I ANSWER THAT QUESTION? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S COMPLEX OBVIOUSLY. 
          THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING NOT TO GET TOO FAR OF INTO RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          UNDERSTANDS EYES BACK IN HER HEAD. 
          COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          YES SIR. 
          SO IF YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE 14, 15 14, SO I DID UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT LEXUS NEXUS, I'VE LOOKED AT IT FOR TWO YEARS AND SLICE AND DICE, GO TO THE DATA GRID AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          UM, THIS IS REALLY A GOOD INFORMATIVE SLIDE CUZ IT DOES CLEARLY EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          IT STARTS OUT AS THIS REPORT, BUT IT ENDS UP THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. 
          SO I I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT KIND OF FOR THE RECORD. 
          SO THOSE EIGHT AGGRAVATED ASSAULT REPORTS ENDED UP BEING THREE, FOUR CASES FILED. 
          YES SIR. 
          SO 50% OF THEM, THAT'S ONE THING. 
          UM, AND THEN BACK TO SLIDE 15. 
          SO DRUNKENNESS, SO IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS,  BASICALLY CAUGHT GQ 23 . 
          OH NO. 
          WELL AGAIN, THIS JUST TO BE COMMERCIAL. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S MY QUESTION REALLY ON THAT ONE GQ. 
          BUT YOU, BUT UM, SO IF IT INCLUDES SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS RIGHT ON, UM, UH, BELT LINE, UH, MAYBE RIGHT BESIDE THE, UM, WHAT'S THE CRAB, THE RED CRAB, MAYBE SOME OF THOSE RESTAURANTS OR BARS, IT SEEMS AS IF THAT WOULD BE REALLY SKEWING WHAT B2 IS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO B2 INCLUDES A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSES, PECAN SQUARE, WALNUT SQUARE, NOT THE APARTMENT SOUTH OF THE TRAIL THAT GOES THE TRAIL TO UH, SPRING VALLEY. 
          SO DOES INCLUDE COTTONWOOD, I THINK THAT'S THE NAME OF IT. 
          AND THEN SHADOW WOOD AND NOT COTTONWOOD, BUT SHADOW WOOD AND THE JADE AND ADDISON PARK. 
          PARK, THE ELDER PARKS DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT, BUT IT INCLUDES A, A BIG SLICE NORTH OF THE WALL. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, ON, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF, UH, BELTWAY. 
          THAT'S A REALLY, SEEMS LIKE IT REALLY LOWER THE CRIME SUBSTANTIALLY IF THAT WASN'T INCLUDED, RIGHT? YEP. 
          AND AGAIN, WE'RE FOR, FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES, WE'RE LOOKING AT TOTAL CRIME IN 
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THAT AREA. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          CAUSE THAT HELPS US AGAIN, DO THE INVESTIGATORS DO THEIR JOB, THE CRIME ANALYST DOES THEIR JOB AND, AND THEN COMMITTEE ADJUSTMENTS IF WE NEED TO. 
          BUT, UH, WE CAN BREAK THAT OUT IF WE NEED TO AND PUT, IT'S A MANUAL PROCESS. 
          RIGHT. 
          UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND. 
          I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT FOR PEOPLE. 
          LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, THE NUMBER'S REALLY PROBABLY NOT 2 47 WHEN YOU INCLUDE OR LEAVE OUT NORTH OF THAT WALL, UM, IS PROBABLY MUCH, MUCH LOWER THAN THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY. 
          SO ANOTHER THING ABOUT, UM, LEXUSNEXUS. 
          SO CAN WE TRUST THAT FARMER'S BRANCH IS REPORTING THE SAME LEVEL OF ACCURACY AND VOLUME TO ACTUALS AS OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARE? UH, LIKE ADDISON IS, ARE THERE SOME THINGS THAT DON'T GET TO LEXUSNEXUS? SO EVERY A IT'S, THAT'S, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          UH, WE WALKED THROUGH THIS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO JUST SO I CAN MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR ON HOW LEXUS TEXAS OPERATES THAT WEBSITE. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO GO IN AND WE CAN, IN FACT AFTER THIS DISCUSSION WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND REDEFINE SOME OF OUR OFFENSE TYPES. 
          SO EACH AGENCY HAS THE ABILITY TO, TO GO IN AND, AND MANUALLY SAY I WANT, FOR EXAMPLE, UNDER DISORDERLY CONDUCT, I'M GONNA PUT, UM, UH, LET'S SEE, MAYBE, MAYBE USE THE AGGRAVATED ASSAULT ONE INSTEAD OF THIS FAMILY, THE NUMBER FOUR, THE FOURTH ONE DOWN RIGHT HERE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , IT SAYS, UH, FAMILY, FAMILY, UH, HOUSEHOLD WITH A WEAPON. 
          I MAY DECIDE TO PUT THAT IN A FAMILY VIOLENCE CUZ THERE'S A FAMILY OFFENSE TYPE IN LEXUSNEXUS. 
          AND SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. 
          THE AGENCIES HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. 
          YOU'RE STILL SEEING THE TOTAL NUMBER MM-HMM. 
          , BUT THE ICON OR THE CATEGORY THROUGH CRIME MAPS IS USER DEFINED. 
          SO IT MAY NOT EVEN BE REAL APPLES TO APPLES. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW IF LIKE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT MIGHT SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA RE WE'LL ACTUALLY REPORT OUR CRIMES AROUND ON NUMBER FIVE ON THE WHEEL OVER HERE INSTEAD OF INITIALLY. 
          WELL, AGAIN, BASED ON WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WHEN WE PUSH THAT, THAT DATA GETS PUSHED BY OUR CAD SYSTEM AUTOMATICALLY TWICE A DAY. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, WE DON'T DO, WE DON'T CONTROL THAT. 
          IT'S PUSHED BY THE METADATA. 
          SO I KNOW THAT THE NUMBERS ARE GETTING REPORTED THAT ARE TRUE NUMBERS, HOW THEY'RE CATEGORIZED AS USER DEFINED. 
          UM, WE CAN ALSO SELECT AND WE DO ANY, ANY SEXUAL ASSAULT FOR ANY CHILD OFFENSE WE DON'T EVEN INCLUDE BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S COMPLETE PRIVACY AND ANONYMITY FOR THE, FOR THOSE JUVENILE UH, VICTIMS. UM, SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY, UH, AT ONE TIME HOMICIDES WEREN'T REPORTED, WE PUT THAT BACK IN. 
          SO WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY, THERE IS THE ABILITY TO, TO USE IT IN A WAY THAT'S YOUR AGENCY OR YOUR TOWN OR YOUR CITY DECIDES THEY WANT TO USE IT. 
          I THINK THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. 
          CAUSE THAT REALLY MAKES IT TO WHERE I CAN'T TRUST THE DATA ACROSS DIFFERENT, UH, DEPARTMENTS, DIFFERENT TOWNS, UM, NOT DEPARTMENTS BUT TOWNS. 
          UM, THAT EXAMPLE DALLAS USED TO REPORT IT. 
          NOW THEY DON'T, THEY PULLED THEIR, UH, EITHER THEY DECIDED NOT TO DO IT ANYMORE OR THEY JUST CHANGED THEIR COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND DIDN'T REDO IT. 
          BUT WE LOST A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION AROUND DALLAS. 
          I WAS LOOKING AT IT AND ABOUT A YEAR AGO I WAS LOOKING AT OTHER AREAS THAT HAPPENED TO BE IN FARMER'S BRANCH. 
          I'M LIKE, WOW, FARMER'S BRANCH REALLY IS QUIET OVER THERE. 
          THERE'S NO CRIMES  NONE. 
          SO I EMAILED THE CHIEF OVER THERE AND HE SAID, YEAH, CHECK INTO THAT THEN, UM, SEE IF WE CAN GET MORE. 
          IT WASN'T REAL FRIENDLY ABOUT IT, JUST SO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S ADDISON PLEASE. 
          BUT, UH, HE UH, I GOT A REPLY BACK FROM HIM LIKE A MONTH LATER AND HE SAID, WE GOT THAT FIXED, WE'RE REPORTING IT NOW. 
          SO THAT TO ME IT'S LIKE, WOW, THAT'S A, SO THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT YOUR DATA IS TRUSTWORTHY, THAT IT'S REAL DATING AND, AND ACCURATE DATA. 
          TO THAT POINT ALSO IS IF YOU'RE REPORTING IT ACROSS THE WHOLE UH, DEPARTMENT, ACROSS THE WHOLE TOWN, ADDISON IS, YOU CAN USE IT FOR APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON BECAUSE THE DATA THAT'S REPORTED HERE IS THE SAME DATA THAT'S REPORTED THEREBY ADDISON LEASE. 
          SO IT IS RELATIVE, UH, RELATIVELY ACCURATE IN THAT CASE. 
          IS IS FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS DATA, IS BUDGET SUITES CONSIDERED A HOTEL, NOT A MULTI-FAMILY CORRECT HOTEL. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST DIDN'T, YEAH, WE PUT ALL OF OUR HOTELS IN COMMERCIAL SECTOR AND BUDGET SUITES IS NOT IN B TWO OR B ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND AGAIN, IT'S A REMINDER TOO. 
          HASTON CIRCLES A GOOD EXAMPLE. 
          ANY PLACE WE HAVE A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WHERE THEY SHARE AN ADDRESS BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, THAT IS A MANUAL PROCESS TO PULL OUT THE COMMERCIALS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, LINE OF THE CROWN YEAH. 
          IS IS IN THAT BLOCK OF, AND WHATEVER ADDRESS THAT IS. 
          AND SO ALL THE, ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THAT BAR IS GONNA BE REFLECTIVE OF THAT BLOCK NUMBERS, CRIME DATA. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE CRIME ANALYST AND EVERYBODY GOES IN AND IF WE START HAVING ISSUES, THEY START PULLING THAT OUT. 
          LET'S SEE WHAT THE REAL NUMBER IS. 
          I SEE. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION FOR KAREN. 
          I THINK OUT OF ALL OF US, YOU'VE USED 
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THIS LEXUS NEXUS THE MOST, YOU SPENT THE MOST AMOUNT OF TIME ON IT OVER TWO YEARS I BELIEVE, RIGHT? THROUGHOUT ANY OF THAT TIME, DID YOU HAVE, DID YOU READ ANYTHING ON THERE THAT GAVE YOU ANY INDICATION THAT THIS INFORMATION IS NOT COMPLETE OR OLD OR NOT UPDATED OR NO, ONLY, ONLY THE, I'M GONNA SAY COULD BE MISLEADING IF NOT UNDERSTOOD. 
          NO, I DIDN'T. 
          I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T LOOK INTO THE SOURCE OF THE DATA BEHIND THE DATA, BUT I BECAME SKEPTICAL WHEN I FOUND THAT FARMER'S BRANCH WASN'T REPORTING AND I'M THE SKEPTIC BY NATURE ON DATA. 
          SO, UM, I DIDN'T GO IN AND LOOK AND I WAS USING IT MORE AS A RELATIVE. 
          I WAS LOOKING FOR TRENDS. 
          I WAS LOOKING FOR HOW DOES IT HERE, HOW DOES IT LOOK AND ADD SOME CIRCLE WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? BY THE WAY, ADD CIRCLE IS MUCH LESS CRIMES, UM, BY FAR THAN PRO TRIVION FROM MY, MY OBSERVATION, AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT ON LEXUS, YOU'RE BASED LEXUS ON NEX LEXUSNEXUS LEXUS NEXUS. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S RELATIVE. 
          IT'S IT'S APP. 
          IT CAN BE APPLES TO APPLES BECAUSE IT IS THE SAME DEPARTMENT REPORTING INTO THE SAME SYSTEM REPORTING THE SAME WAY VERSUS FARMER'S BRANCH DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          BUT DOESN'T THIS SLIDE 14 JUST BLOW THAT COMPLETELY AWAY? SLIDE 14 OR 1514, UH, FOUR 14. 
          WELL, IT BLOWS IT AWAY FROM A VOLUME STANDPOINT, BUT NOT FROM A RATIO STANDPOINT. 
          RELATIVE STANDPOINT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND TO THE, TO THAT END ON THIS DATA CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU END UP, UH, CHIEF LOOKING AT OTHER, OTHER TYPES OF PROGRAMS AND WHATNOT, I THINK A LOT OF THESE PLACES GET THEIR DATA FROM THE SAME PLACE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, ONE COMPANY SAYS OUR DATA'S BETTER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DO X, Y, Z AND THE OTHER COMPANY SAYS, WELL WE DO A B ABC BUT IT ALL COMES FROM THE SAME SOURCE. 
          SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING IT DOES, I'M JUST SAYING I WOULD FIND OUT IF YOU, IF IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE. 
          CAUSE I, I HAVE A CLOSE FRIEND THAT USED TO WORK FOR LEXUSNEXUS AND I CAN ACTUALLY ASK HER, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THAT, THESE PROGRAMS, THEY'RE ALL, IT ALL COMES FROM THE SAME. 
          AND THIS IS JUST DATA AGGREGATOR. 
          SO THE SOFTWARE'S JUST AN AGGREGATOR. 
          IT TAKES AGGREGATE DATA AND JUST DISPLAYS IT. 
          AND THAT WAS THE ONLY INTENT IT EVER HAD. 
          IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE ANYTHING ELSE. 
          AND AGAIN, WE WILL LOOK AT ALL OP ALL UH, DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING RIGHT NOW THAT'S GONNA SHOW UPDATES AND STATUSES AS CASES PROGRESS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT AN RMS SYSTEM, OUR RECORD MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT'S SEPARATE FOR OUR, OUR CAD MOBILE SYSTEM, OUR DISPATCH RUNS, BUT THEY ALL INTERFACE TOGETHER. 
          BUT IT, IT'S DESIGNED FOR, THOSE SYSTEMS ARE DESIGNED FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSE TO HELP US DO OUR JOBS AT THE, IN THE WAYS THAT WE NEED TO DO IT. 
          UM, IT AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE, I'VE SAID IT SINCE DAY ONE, I WANNA BE A DATA-DRIVEN POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          I THINK WE HAVE GOTTEN MUCH FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD IN THAT REGARD. 
          BUT WE ARE LIMITED BY THE, THE SOFTWARE THAT WE USE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US TO PURCHASE. 
          WE'VE GOT BRAND NEW RMS AND CAD AND MOBILE SYSTEMS BETWEEN THE, EITHER THE TOWN OR INTECH. 
          AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO STILL DO A LOT OF THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO. 
          MY GOAL WOULD BE HAVE A, A TRANSPARENT PORTAL ON OUR WEBSITE WHERE CITIZENS LOOK UP ALL THAT STUFF. 
          IT DOESN'T EXIST AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS THE MONEY TO DO IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S, THAT'S A GOOD . 
          WE'LL GET IN TROUBLE. 
          THANKS. 
          EXPENSIVE. 
          WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT ALWAYS. 
          WE TALK ABOUT THAT ALMOST, UH, EVERY WEEK. 
          CAUSE WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING TO SEE HOW WE CAN DO BETTER. 
          UM, AND SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT NOW. 
          WE'LL SEE IF WE, THERE'S ANY TECHNOLOGY. 
          I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO, UH, INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION CHIEFS OF POLICE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE IN MAY AND THAT'LL BE FIRST ON MY LIST. 
          SO LOOKING, WHEN PEOPLE LOOK BACK AT THIS VIDEO, WHAT'S THEIR TAKEAWAY? WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO TAKE AWAY ABOUT THEIR USE OF LEXUSNEXUS? IT IS A SNAPSHOT OF ACTIVITY AT THAT ONE POINT IN TIME, RIGHT? THE INITIAL CALL, IT IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A CRIME ANALYSIS TOOL. 
          IT'S NOT INTENDED TO SHOW YOU TRUE CRIME DATA. 
          IT IS A, IT IS A PRECURSOR. 
          IT IS A, UH, AGAIN, A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          IT HAS ALL IT'S INTENDED TO BE, IF THEY HAVE DEEPER CONCERNS ABOUT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, THEY CAN EITHER EMAIL ME AT, AT THE ADDRESS THAT I HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          THEY CAN DO OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS FOR THE REPORT NUMBERS THAT ARE LISTED ON THE ICONS. 
          WHEN YOU CLICK ON IT POPS UP A REPORT NUMBER. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, HOPEFULLY WE'VE BUILT UP TRUST OVER THE YEARS THAT IF SOMETHING SERIOUS IS HAPPENING IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS OR THOSE COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GO OUT AND WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE PUBLIC. 
          FACEBOOK, THE TOWN'S, UH, EMAIL BLASTS, AGAIN, MOST SEVERE CASES WILL BE A REVERSE 9 1 1 ARE GOING DOOR TO DOOR TELLING PEOPLE WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE THE TRUST HOPEFULLY WE'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS. 
          UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD TO DO THAT TYPE OF STUFF. 
          AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE SERIOUS CRIMES THAT WOULD FORCE US TO DO THOSE, THOSE DRASTIC MEASURES TO COMMUNICATE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, SO, SO ALL THOSE CRIMES IN CERTAIN AREA, NOT 
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ONLY JUST FOR THE, UH, PERMANENT UNITS AND ALSO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AS WELL, IF, IF THE RESTAURANT LOCATED JUST LIKE WHAT CROWN AND CIRCLE SO YOU WILL INCLUDE IN THAT BLOCK. 
          SO FAIR IS THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN SAY 100% AND THEN CORRECT. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? MANY DEPENDS ON HOW YOU VIEW IT. 
          SO I THINK CHIEF TRYING TO PROVIDE AS MUCH STATISTICS AS POSSIBLE, SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE RECEIVE FUNDS, UH, WHEN WE COLLINS, SO HER STATISTICS IS SO MUCH DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, SO HE, SHE DIDN'T INCLUDE, UH, THE NUMBERS IS NOT LOOK LIKE, NOT THE SAME AS THE NUMBER OF UNITS. 
          I MEAN OF SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY ARE NOT THE SAME AS WHAT YOU PROVIDE. 
          AND THEN OVER THE WATERFORD APARTMENT WAS NOT INCLUDED. 
          ONLY INCLUDE LAY LOG CERTAIN AREA. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S NOT APPLE TO APPLE OR ORANGE TO ORANGE COMPARISON. 
          SO THEN SHE SENT THIS TO ME AND THEN I, I THINK SHERRY COOK SENT THIS TO ME AND I DID READ IT, BUT THE, THE NUMBER WAS DIFFERENT. 
          YOU KNOW, FOUND THAT THE WEDDING UNIONS DIFFERENT AND I FOUND THE STATISTICS OF CRIME IS DIFFERENT. 
          SO I JUST DON'T GET IT, THE DIFFERENCE IS SUCH HUGE , YOU KNOW. 
          SO, BACK ON SLIDE 15. 
          SO, UH, IS THE, ARE THESE OUTCOMES OR ARE THESE INITIAL REPORTS INITIAL STILL? IT'S STILL INITIAL. 
          SO INITIAL, BUT IT COULD HAVE SPOTTED OFF SEVERAL DIFFERENT ONES. 
          LIKE YOU SAID, ONE CALL IN OUR NEIGHBOR'S DATA IS GONNA HAVE MORE INFORMATION, MORE NUMBERS THAN WHAT'S REPORTED. 
          OR, AND, AND THIS IS ACCURATE. 
          YES. 
          SO THIS, YEAH. 
          AND I APPRECIATE THIS AND THANK YOU FOR BEING DATING. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE THIS WHEN WE DO THE ANNUAL REPORT ANYMORE. 
          YOU SEE THE NEIGHBOR'S DATA FOR ALL THE TOWN. 
          BUT I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT DRUNKENNESS, YOU WON'T, THAT NOT ALL OF US HAD GOT CAUGHT BY FAR IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
           PROBABLY ONE OR TWO. 
          AND THE REST OF 'EM ARE, AND THAT'S SKEWING THE NUMBERS. 
          THAT'S SKEWING THE NUMBERS. 
          IT'S NOT REALLY RESIDENTIAL. 
          YOU HAVE TO TRUST YOUR GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, AND ESPECIALLY SMALL TOWN LIKE THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          IF THERE'S A A WHY WAY, WELL PROVIDE SOME OF FALSE INFORMATION. 
          I JUST DON'T GET IT. 
          SO IF YOU DON'T TRUST YOUR GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN YOU LIVE HAPPILY? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING IS B2 INCLUDES THOSE, THOSE BUSINESSES. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW IS THE NUMBERS MUCH LOWER, BUT THIS IS THE, THE TRUE DATA THAT'S MOST ACCURATE. 
          THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT TOO. 
          IF, IF WE STOP SOMEBODY ON TRAFFIC STOP AT CWI, THEY MAY LET THE INITIAL STOP MAY HAVE BEEN ON BELTLINE, RIGHT? BUT WHEN THEY TURN INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, A LOT OF TIMES THEY WANDER AROUND, THEY STOP. 
          IF IT STOPS IN THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOME NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN THAT'S GONNA BE ON THAT BLOCK NUMBER. 
          SO THEY COME THAT CONSIDER THAT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO AGAIN, IT, IT GETS, IT IS COMPLICATED. 
          THERE'S SO MANY VARIABLES TO IT. 
          UM, NEXT TIME TELL THEM OVER TO YOUR FARMER'S BRANCH. 
          . 
          THANK YOU CHIEF FOR YOUR DAY. 
          WE WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE AS MUCH AS WE CAN BE. 
          PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS CALL US OR CONTACT EMAIL ME. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL CONTACT THEM OR, UH, TRY TO EXPLAIN AS MUCH AS BEST WE CAN. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS SORT OF, UM, I, I REMEMBER IN 2015, SOCIAL MEDIA IS WHAT BROUGHT ME NEXT DOOR IS WHAT DID THIS TO US. 
          YES. 
          NEXT DOOR IS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT HOME. 
          CAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IS SOME OF YOU WOULD HEAR SOMETHING AND IT STARTS GETTING OUT THERE, AND THEN RESIDENTS WOULD SAY, WELL, HOW COME I WASN'T, DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS CRIME? AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE ENDED UP GETTING TO THIS. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING IS, IS KIND OF INTERESTING. 
          I REMEMBER FIRST TIME I WAS ON COUNCIL, WHEN WE WERE ON COUNCIL AND DALLAS MORNING NEWS USED TO ALWAYS DO A, LIKE STR CRIME TO STATISTICS FOR ALL THE TOWNS IN DALLAS COUNTY OR WHATEVER. 
          AND WE ALWAYS LOOKED LIKE WE HAD A HIGH CRIME RATE BECAUSE THEY TAKE NUMBER OF REPORT INCIDENTS AND WE REPORT LAW DIVIDED BY THE NUMBER OF CITIZENS. 
          AND IT'S LIKE, AT EVERYBODY SAYS THAT ADDISON IS UNIQUE. 
          WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT WE HAD 15,000 LESS THAN THAT. 
          NO, WE HAD PROBABLY 12,000 PEOPLE LIVING HERE AND 120,000 PEOPLE WORKING HERE, COMING IN EVERY DAY. 
          AND IT'S JUST LIKE, AND WE KEPT TELLING 'EM, YOU GOTTA, YOU CAN'T TAKE THOSE SAME STATS AND APPLY IT TO US. 
          AND I THINK THEY FINALLY JUST TOOK US OFF THE LIST AND . 
          BUT THAT'S HOW THEY DO. 
          I KNOW. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M, THEY WON'T CHANGE IT. 
          POINT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE BUSINESS COMMERCIAL CITY POINT B, YOU CAN TAKE THE, THE DATA AND SKEW WITH THE WAY YOU WANT TO. 
          YEAH. 
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BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR FIRST HOUSE IN ADDISON ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO NOW, WE WERE TOLD, IF YOU NEED TO DIAL 9 1 1, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR PANTS ON. 
          . 
          THINGS HAVE NOT CHANGED MUCH. 
          AND I'M REALLY GLAD OF THAT. 
           PUT ON YOUR CLOTHES BEFORE QUARTER. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          I HAVE SOME OF THAT MOVE IN, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST RECENTLY, BECAUSE THEY LIVED IN DALLAS, HAD LOTS OF NICE HOUSES IN DALLAS OVER THE YEARS, AND THEY CALL THE POLICE IN DALLAS. 
          IF THEY GOT BROKEN INTO THEIR HOUSE, THEY WOULD SAY, THEY WON'T EVEN SEND ANYBODY OUT. 
          THEY WOULD JUST SAY, GO FILE A REPORT, GO DOWN TO A POLICE STATION TO FILE A REPORT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE, WE CAN'T SEND ANYBODY OUT TO EVEN TO COME AND INVESTIGATE IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, AND THAT'S WHY THEY LIVE IN ADDISON NOW. 
          YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. 
          ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF? GO AHEAD. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YOU JUST AS, JUST TO KIND OF CLOSE OUT THE TOWN, BECAUSE THE NEXT TWO ITEMS YOU'RE MORE PRECISE AND THEY'RE ALL ARE RELATED TO SOME DEGREE. 
          JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          THAT OUR NEXT STEP WILL BE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          WE'RE GO FOR AN RP, WE BRING THAT FORWARD, WE'LL START THAT PROCESS. 
          WE'LL LIKELY BE APPOINTING THAT COMMITTEE PROBABLY IN MAY, JUNE TIMEFRAME, RIGHT AFTER THE NEW COUNCIL'S ON BOARD. 
          SO THAT'S OUR PLAN MOVING FORWARD. 
          AS FAR AS KIND OF FOLLOW UP FROM THE TOWN HALL MEETING, OUTSIDE OF THE NEXT TWO ITEMS THAT WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE BEFORE WE ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA READ BOTH ITEMS. CAN WE, BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE GO THERE, UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD ASKED WAS WHEN WE LOOKED AT, AND WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING TO FOLKS ABOUT, UM, PROPERTIES IN ADDISON AND SO ON AND, AND POTENTIAL BUILDERS IF WE HAD LOOKED, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN GREAT CONCERN ABOUT THIS, ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY HOME BUILDERS, AND I KNOW THAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO ME, BUT I WOULD LIKE MAYBE KEN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE THE RIGHT ONE WHO PUT THIS TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THOSE WERE RE THAT SOMEBODY DID REACH OUT TO THEM. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA, SO WE'RE GONNA, WHEN WE GET TO ITEM THREE, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT IN DETAIL. 
          OKAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          GREAT. 
          SO I'M GONNA READ BOTH ITEMS SAME TIME, SO WE CAN JUST, UH, DISCUSS THAT AT THE SAME TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          IF YOU NEED IT. 
          [2.  Discuss an Apartment Outreach Program. ]
SO, UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO, DISCUSS AN APARTMENT OUTREACH PROGRAM. 
          ITEM NUMBER THREE, PRESENT, DISCUSS OWNERSHIP, HOUSING BUILDER, DEVELOPER OUTREACH RESULTS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE'LL START OFF WITH THE APARTMENT OUTREACH PROGRAM AS IT'S THE NEXT ITEM. 
          UM, THIS WAS AN ITEM YOU'LL SEE, IT SAYS JUST DISCUSSED, NOT PRESENTED. 
          DISCUSSED IS ITEM THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BY DEPUTY. 
          I MAY APPROACH HIM WORD AND COUNCIL MEMBER GARDNER TO, TO GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS ON, UH, APARTMENT OUTREACH, OUTREACH PROGRAM. 
          AND CERTAINLY, UM, BASED ON THE RESPONSE, I'LL RESPOND, CAN, CAN CERTAINLY RESPOND, UM, THOSE THOUGHTS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD. 
          SO I'LL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO YOU ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN WE GO FIRST? SO I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR, EVER SINCE I STARTED CAMPAIGNING ABOUT WHAT, WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF APARTMENTS AND WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF APARTMENTS. 
          LIKE, WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF RESTAURANTS. 
          WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF ESTABLISHMENTS FOR ALCOHOL. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE CALL 'EM BARS OR NOT, BUT, UM, SO IF WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS IN THE TOWN, THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE SERVICES THAT SUPPORT AND MAINTAIN THOSE BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS, OR BARS. 
          UM, SO APARTMENTS. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF APARTMENTS. 
          AND IF SOME ARE, ARE WE MANAGING THE APARTMENTS AS AS WE CAN? I KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OVERSIGHT THAT A TOWN CAN DO NECESSARILY, BUT ARE WE, ARE WE HOLDING UP APARTMENTS ACCOUNTABLE OR, UM, SOME SORT OF SCORECARD ABOUT HOW THEY'RE DOING BECAUSE, UH, ALEY ISN'T THE SAME AS VITRUVIAN AREA ISN'T THE SAME AS, UM, SHADOW WOOD. 
          SO, I MEAN, SOMEBODY MENTIONED SOME OF THE AESTHETICS OF SOME OF THE APARTMENTS, UH, JUST NORTH OF SPRING VALLEY ON MARSH, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITH PEOPLE'S LAUNDRY HANGING OVER THE RAILS AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          SO I THOUGHT THERE, THERE'S, UH, THERE COULD BE SOME ROLE IN THE TOWN THAT, THAT DOES THIS. 
          AND WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          SO I'VE GOT A BUNCH OF NOTES AND UM, IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN AND THEN I'LL GO THROUGH NOTES, WE'LL GO BACK AND FORTH. 
          AND THE CONVERSATION IS WHAT I WANTED, UH, THE COUNCIL TO HAVE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE, THIS, THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ON MY MIND FOR AS LONG AS I'VE LIVED HERE. 
          UM, AND IT, IT REALLY KIND OF CAME TO A HEAD DURING THE, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACH WHEN THERE WERE CERTAIN, UM, SORT OF GOLDEN THREADS, IF YOU WILL, THAT A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE WERE, WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT, THAT SORT OF CONJOINED TOGETHER OR THAT THEY WERE THE SAME. 
          UH, AND ONE OF THOSE THAT I PICKED UP ON WAS, HEY, DO WE NEED MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR APARTMENTS NOW, WHAT'S HAP WHAT CONVERSATION IS 
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COMING FROM A PERCEPTION OF, OF WHATEVER IT IS THE DEPARTMENTS BRINGS, BE IT, YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE, MORE CRIME, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE, THESE TOPICS. 
          AND, UM, IT, SO THE, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PIECE OF IT. 
          AND THEN, UM, JUST CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS WITH GRAY STAR, WHICH OWNS ALLEGRO AND AMK AND, UM, M AA, WHICH FORMERLY WAS POST. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT WHERE THE TOWN COULD HAVE A, UH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW, A QUARTERLY, UH, AN EMAIL RELATIONSHIP. 
          YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF THING WHERE IT'S AN OUTREACH THAT'S INTENDED TO DO A COUPLE OF THINGS, MAYBE PROVIDE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENGAGEMENT SO THAT, UH, APARTMENT COMMUNITIES FEEL LIKE THEY WANT TO BE ENGAGED AND THAT THEY WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, A VALUABLE, UH, PART OF THE VOTING COMMUNITY, SAY, UH, AND A PART OF, YOU KNOW, A VOICE IN THE TOWN AND SO ON. 
          UM, WHICH THEY ALL CAN, CAN VOTE, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S NOT AS MUCH ENGAGEMENT. 
          SO GETTING THEM ENGAGED AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, JUST THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF, OF SAYING, HEY, AS A CITY WE VALUE BEST PRACTICES AND WE VALUE THESE THINGS AND WE VIEW YOU AS A PARTNER AND CAN WE WORK TOGETHER AND CAN WE HAVE A TWO-WAY DIALOGUE? YEAH, I AGREE. 
          OFTEN, YEAH, PEOPLE THINK APARTMENT OPENED UP FOR A WHILE, THEN THEY DON'T MAINTAIN A GOOD ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, ROUTINELY CITY MAY CONSIDER DO SOME CHECKUP, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST ENHANCE THE CODE OF ENFORCEMENT, JUST GO VISIT, YOU KNOW, AND THE CHECK. 
          SO, UH, SOMETIMES I HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE M AA, THEY, SINCE THEY TOOK OVER, THEY, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE BUILDING, THEY DON'T COLLECT THE TRASH OFTEN ENOUGH. 
          SO PEOPLE SEW THE TRASH THROUGH THE CHUTE AND THEN THEY DON'T CLEAN UP THE PIPE UP ON THE SIDE. 
          SO CREATE A SMELL AND INS SANITARY SITUATION. 
          SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY CAN CONSIDER HAVE, UH, STAY CLOSER WITH THOSE, UH, MANAGEMENT COMPANY FOR THOSE MULTI-FAMILY, UH, APARTMENTS. 
          SO WE SHOULD HAVE A LIST OF EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, SOME OLDER, ONE MORE RUNDOWN AND SOME NEW ONE, AND THEN, UH, WE GO FROM THERE. 
          THAT'S ONE PURPOSE TO KEEP THE FACILITY MORE UPDATED. 
          NUMBER TWO, CITIZEN COMPLAINED ABOUT THEY ARE TRANSIENT AND THEY DON'T VOTE. 
          ACTUALLY, WHILE I LOOK AT THAT, MOST OF THEM, THEY ALREADY VOTED IN EVERY PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. 
          SO HOW CITY CAN GET OUT THERE AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE CARE MORE ABOUT OUR THEIR OWN CITY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT. 
          AND THEN, UH, JUST STATE OR, OR FEDERAL, BECAUSE CITY, THE PLACE YOU LIVE, YOU SHOULD CARE MORE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I FEEL. 
          TWOFOLD. 
          ONE IS, CITIZEN RESIDENTS LIVING APARTMENT THEMSELVES SHOULD CARE MORE ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY. 
          NUMBER TWO, THEY, UH, MAINTENANCE AND, AND UPDATE THEIR FACILITY. 
          AND, UH, HOW COULD WE ENSURE THEY HAVE THEY MEET ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS? MAYBE THAT'S MUCH OF CONCERN. 
          SO, SO KIND OF WHAT PUT ME DOWN THIS PATH WAS I WAS LOOKING AT APARTMENTS WHERE MY DAUGHTER LIVED, AND IT WAS OVER IN VERT TRIVIA AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD GET REPORTS, UH, FROM, UH, OTHER PEOPLE THAT LIVED THERE AS WELL. 
          SO I STARTED LOOKING AT THAT. 
          I'M LIKE, WELL, THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN OVER IN LEY, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OVER IN ADDISON CIRCLE THE CRIME WHEN, WHENEVER I'M TALKING ABOUT IT'S APPLES, UH, APPLES TO APPLES. 
          CAUSE IT'S ALL IN THE SAME TOWN, DIFFERENT AREAS. 
          SO THAT'S MADE ME THINK ABOUT IT. 
          WELL, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? IT'S MANAGEMENT. 
          IT'S THE APARTMENT OF MANAGEMENT. 
          THAT'S MORE KIND OF MY ANGLE ON THIS IS THAT THE MANAGEMENT OF AN APARTMENT GETS, YOU GET WHAT YOU TOLERATE, AND IF YOU TOLERATE, YOU GET IT. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING ABOUT IT. 
          SO AS A COUNCIL, WE'RE KIND OF SETTING POLICY OR SETTING RESULTS, AND THEN WE ASK YOU, HERE'S THE RESULTS WE WANT YOU COME BACK AND GIVE US SOME SUGGESTIONS. 
          AND OF COURSE, IT COSTS MONEY. 
          SO THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE STRATEGIC PLANNING AND BUDGET PROCESS THAT WOULD FUND THIS STUFF AS WE DECIDE. 
          SO RESULTS. 
          THAT WAS VERY GOOD. 
          YOU'RE GONNA SCROLL THAT RIGHT IN 
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. 
          SO THE RE AND SO THE RESULTS JUST KIND OF START OFF, IS KIND OF EXPECT THE ADDISON WAY, YOU KNOW, EXPECT THE ADDISON WAY, THE MANAGEMENT'S GONNA HAVE TO EXPECT THE ADDISON WAY AND LOW CRIME, SAFE COMMUNITIES, THOSE RESULTS, UH, APARTMENT COMMUNITIES THAT ARE WELL MAINTAINED AND EVEN IF THEY'RE OLDER APARTMENTS. 
          UM, AND THEN MAYBE SOME OUTCOMES, IT WOULD BE STATEMENTS LIKE, APARTMENTS IN ADDISON ARE THE SAFEST AND HIGHEST QUALITY APARTMENTS IN THE DFW AREA. 
          THAT'S AN OUTCOME, RIGHT? OR ADDISON DOESN'T PUT UP WITH CRIME AND POOR BEHAVIOR IN APARTMENTS. 
          SO IF YOU'RE GONNA BE THAT WAY, DON'T MOVE TO ADDISON, MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          UH, IF YOU'RE GONNA LIVE IN ADDIS APARTMENTS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE A LAW ABIDING RESIDENT. 
          JUST THOSE ARE JUST KIND OF SOME STATEMENT OUTCOMES. 
          SO AS I GO TO BRAINSTORM, AND THIS IS WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE CAN BRAINSTORM, IS, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER. 
          WE CAN DO BETTER. 
          WE CAN DO BETTER AS A, AS A TOWN, WE CAN DO BETTER AS A COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, I'M MOSTLY THINKING ABOUT HOLDING THE MANAGEMENT ACCOUNTABLE. 
          DOES THE MANAGEMENT HAVE THE SECURITY, UM, COMPANIES THAT THEY'RE PAYING, OR ARE THEY PAYING ENOUGH? ARE THEY DOING ENOUGH FOR, FOR SECURITY? I MEAN, DO THEY HAVE THE FACILITY LIGHTED THE WAY IT SHOULD BE? CHIEF SPENCER MENTIONED SOME OF THAT. 
          OR JUST HOW, UH, SOMETHING'S LAID OUT OR LIGHTED OR, UH, UH, OR DESIGNED. 
          SO APARTMENT CRIME DATA BY APARTMENT COMPLEX, MAYBE BY AREA, BY GROUP APARTMENTS. 
          UM, SO DATA ON THAT. 
          UM, AND REAL DATA AS, AS YOU KNOW, AS WE CAN TRUST IT. 
          UH, MAYBE HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF, YOU'VE MENTIONED THIS PERIODIC, PERIODIC MEETINGS WITH APARTMENT MANAGERS. 
          UH, MAYBE DAVID COULD HAVE A MEETING, AND THIS IS SOMETHING ACTIONABLE THAT DOESN'T COST ANY MONEY, MEET WITH THE APARTMENT MANAGERS PERIODICALLY, UH, MAYBE RESIDENTS MEETINGS WITH, UH, THE, UH, APARTMENTS JUST HAVE ADVERTISED, CO COPIED WITH THE COUNCILMAN OVER IN VITRUVIAN, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, IT'S JUST THE RESIDENTS THAT COME AND TALK AND VOICE THEIR CONCERNS. 
          UM, WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES AND TOWNS DOING, UH, TRANSPARENCY OF COMPLEXES REGARDING SECURITY MEASURES? I TOUCHED ON THAT. 
          UH, WHAT'S THEIR CONTRACTS WITH SECURITY COMPANIES? I MEAN, NOT TO THE LEVEL OF WHERE IT'S, UH, PRIVATE, MAYBE A PUBLIC SCORECARD FOR CRIME, FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT, CODE VIOLATIONS, UH, FOR QUALITY, ET CETERA. 
          PUBLIC SCORECARD. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, BASICALLY ACCOUNTABILITY FOR APARTMENT, FOR MANAGE APARTMENT MANAGEMENT, FOR CRIME ACCOUNTABILITY, ACCOUNTABILITY FOR APARTMENT MANAGEMENT, FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT ACCOUNTABILITY FOR APARTMENT MANAGEMENT, FOR QUALITY. 
          SO I DON'T, I I I WOULD LIKE TO JUST, AND I, I, I LIKE THE WAY I, I UNDERSTAND THE WAY YOU'RE THINKING. 
          I, I, I THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA RUN INTO, UH, POSSIBLE CHALLENGES WITH, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA, UH, A TOWN IS GONNA TRY TO HOLD A PRIVATE CORPORATION ACCOUNTABLE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEY NEED TO HOLD ALL OF THE FEE SIMPLE HOMEOWNERS ACCOUNTABLE AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          I WOULD, I I, I WAS KIND OF THINKING MORE ALONG THE LINES OF PLACEMAKING, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, HAVING QUARTERLY MEETINGS OR WHAT, WHATEVER THE CITY MANAGER MIGHT DECIDE TO THEN MEET WITH THE, THE APARTMENT MANAGERS FOR THEM TO COME UP WITH THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF WHAT PROGRAMS MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, TO ME, ACCOUNTABILITY IS THE LAW. 
          WHEN THE LAW IS BROKEN, THEN YOU CALL THE POLICE WITHIN AN APARTMENT. 
          COMMUNITY ACCOUNTABILITY MANIFESTS THROUGH THE LEASE DOCUMENT, WHICH IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT. 
          IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE LEGAL DOCUMENT, THEN YOU GO TO APARTMENT MANAGEMENT OR GET AN ATTORNEY AND APPROACH IT THAT WAY. 
          I WAS THINKING FOR, FOR, FOR PURPOSES OF HOW COUNSEL COULD, UM, UH, SUGGEST SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UM, UPLIFTING AND SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UH, INCREASE ENGAGEMENT. 
          IT WOULD, UM, AGAIN, WE, OUR WHOLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE, UH, PUT SO MUCH WORK INTO HAS PLACEMAKING AS A PART OF IT. 
          IF THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T FEEL ENGAGED AND DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, THEN THEY'RE NOT GONNA WANT TO DO THE PLACEMAKING. 
          THE PLACEMAKING IMPLIES THAT YOU'RE OBEYING THE LAW, YOU KNOW, IN A, YOU KNOW, IMPLIES THAT YOU'RE PICKING UP YOUR DOG'S, YOU KNOW, WITH DOGGY BAG STUFF. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW IT, YOU KNOW, SO REALLY, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHTENING OUT THE CONFUSION AROUND REPORTING THINGS ON NEXT DOOR VERSUS, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS TALKING ABOUT THINGS IN, IN THE APARTMENTS, AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY EMAIL THE CITY MANAGER IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY MANAGER. 
          MAYBE THEY JUST DON'T 
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KNOW THAT THEY KEEP GOING TO THE APARTMENT MANAGER ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT IN THE APARTMENT MANAGER'S JOB DESCRIPTION, THAT APARTMENT MANAGER MAY NOT KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO DIRECT THEM TO THE CITY. 
          THOSE KINDS OF JUST LITTLE TWEAKS THAT WE COULD START OUT WITH AND THEN LET THE APARTMENT COMMUNITIES DEVELOP WITH THE CITY, HOWEVER YOU GUYS SEE A FIT, DEVELOP, WHATEVER COMES OF IT. 
          I AGREE. 
          YOU KNOW, UH, SINCE CURRENTLY WE HA WE DO HAVE PROGRAM MADE WITH, UH, OTHER RESTAURANT OWNER OR MANAGERS TWICE A YEAR, AND THEN COMMERCIAL REALTOR AND OR DEVELOPERS MAYBE ONCE A YEAR. 
          SO WE PROBABLY CAN EXPAND THAT TO, UH, PERMANENT MANAGEMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, ALL OF THEM. 
          THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UH, IN A QUALITY OR, UH, BIANNUALLY BASIS, YOU KNOW. 
          THEN THE OTHER THING IS HOTEL, WE NEED TO EXPENSE THE HOTELS AS WELL, YOU KNOW, HOTEL MANAGEMENT, SINCE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR CORE BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, APARTMENTS, HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, SO, UH, OFFICE BUILDING DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GET OR GIVE THEM AN UPDATE. 
          UH, TELL THEM ANYTHING THEY NEED TO GET HELP FROM OUR CITY, OR WE'LL ALSO WANT TO LET THEM KNOW THEY NEED TO UPDATE THE PLACE, MAINTAIN THE GOOD SERVICE FOR THE CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, SO FOR THE RESIDENTS, THAT'S SOME PROGRAM WE CAN INITIATE. 
          YEAH. 
          SEE, THIS IS GOOD. 
          THIS, THESE ARE THINGS LIKE THE MAYOR'S TALKING ABOUT, KIND OF INCORPORATING WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EXPANDING IT A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT? BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT, WHAT YOU GUYS WILL LEARN IS THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE DREAMING UP, THEY ALREADY EXIST. 
          SO, GREYSTAR, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A PROGRAM, BECAUSE I LIVE IN A GREYSTAR PROPERTY, THERE'S A PROGRAM, AND YOU, YOU, YOU DO ALL THESE LITTLE GAMES WHERE YOU UPLOAD PHOTOS OF THINGS AND YOU GET POINTS, AND THEN YOU GET GIFT CARDS. 
          THERE'S ALL THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          SO IF, IF SOMETHING'S NOT WORKING IN ONE APARTMENT, YOU KNOW, THEN ANOTHER ONE WILL HAVE AN IDEA. 
          AND THEN THIS CAN ALL KIND OF WORK ITS WAY. 
          AND THEN, THEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT I ENVISION IS MAYBE EVEN IN THE NEWSLETTER, YOU KNOW, SHOWCASING THE APARTMENT COMMUNITY THAT HAD THE TRASH, THE LITTER PICKUP DAY, AND THEY WON THE, YOU KNOW, X, Y, Z AWARD FOR, YOU KNOW, BEING GOOD STEWARDS, YOU KNOW, OF THE COMMUNITY AND KIND OF PLAYING OFF OF ALL OF THE COMMUNITY RESOURCES THAT WE CAN PULL TOGETHER. 
          SO, DON'T GET ME WRONG, I DON'T WANT TO BE JUST A HEAVY HANDED THING. 
          PLEASE. 
          I MEAN, THE ACCOUNTABILITY THING THING, WORD WAS JUST TO GET A BITE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, AND PLUS I JUST WANTED TO START THE CONVERSATION. 
          UM, I DO UPLIFTING, RIGHT? FOR SURE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND, BUT WHAT WE NEED, OR WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY, AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, A LOT OF THIS ALREADY EXISTS AND WE ALREADY DO IT IN OTHER PLACES. 
          AND AGAIN, WHY, WHY DON'T WE FOCUS ON THIS OR OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL, BUT TO GIVE YOU, TO GIVE STAFF SOME DIRECTION. 
          HERE'S WHAT WE'RE THINKING. 
          WE DON'T HAVE IT FULLY BAKED. 
          GO GIVE US SOME, COME BACK AND GIVE US SOME DIRECTION OR SOME, SOME OPTIONS. 
          I'M SORRY, WE GIVE THEM SOME DIRECTION, BUT YEAH, THE POCKET PARKS IN, IN THE, UH, ADDISON CIRCLE. 
          ARE THEY BEING PROGRAMMED? YOU AND I FOUND OUT THERE AT LEAST ONE OF 'EM ISN'T SO MUCH. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S GREAT. 
          IT'S ADDISON'S PARK. 
          YEAH. 
          THOSE, THOSE THINGS AS WELL. 
          BUT, BUT DEFINITELY VISIBILITY ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT, BUT AGAIN, I, I'LL GO BACK TO KIND OF AN OUTCOME. 
          ADDISON APARTMENTS ARE THE SAFEST AND HIGHEST QUALITY APARTMENTS IN GFW AREA. 
          THAT'S THE GOAL. 
          THAT'S THE OUTCOME. 
          CAN I, MY MY VERY FIRST SUGGESTION WOULD BE ADDISON APARTMENT, YOU KNOW, APARTMENT OH OH. 
          PEOPLE THAT RENT IN ADDISON APARTMENTS ARE CITIZENS TOO, RIGHT? AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO GET PAST. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT A HOMEOWNER ISN'T ANY MORE IMPORTANT THAN SOMEBODY THAT LIVES IN AN APARTMENT IN ADDISON. 
          THEY SPEND MONEY, THEY PAY SALES TAXES, THEY PAY TAXES THROUGH THEIR RENT TO LIVE IN ADDISON. 
          SO IT'S LIKE, WE GOTTA GET PAST THIS US, THEM THING, CUZ IT'S ALL OF US TOGETHER AND THEY'RE AN IMPORTANT PART OF, OF TOWN. 
          A LOT OF THOSE, ALL THOSE PEOPLE, A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE LIVE IN APARTMENTS WORK AND ALL OUR BUSINESSES AROUND TOWN. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S LIKE NUMBER ONE AND GET, HELP THEM GET ENGAGED. 
          THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE LIKE SOME KIND OF SECOND CLASS CITIZEN, CUZ THEY'RE NOT. 
          WELL, ALL THE SIGNS AROUND TOWN WOULD MAKE THEM THINK THEY ARE, WHICH 
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I DON'T AGREE WITH. 
          SO. 
          RIGHT. 
          , SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR KEN. 
          DO, WHAT KIND OF AUTHORITY DO WE HAVE AS A TOWN, UH, BEYOND LIFE SAFETY AND ADA TYPE OF CHALLENGES THAT ARE DIFFERENT BETWEEN APARTMENT, UH, RESIDENTS WHO ARE LIVING IN APARTMENTS AND RESIDENTS WHO ARE LIVING IN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT? CAN YOU GIVE US, JESSICA, MAKE ME, WELL IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, SOME OF THE CONVERSATION IS SAYING, WELL, WE HAVE TO HELP THEM DO BETTER WITH THEIR, SOME OF THE THESE, UH, APARTMENT RESIDENCE COMMUNITIES. 
          DO WE, DOES THE TOWN HAVE, UH, SOME AUTHORITY THAT CAN HELP TO THEM TO OR US INCENTIVIZE THEM AND BEYOND WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR OUR RESIDENTS? I'LL JUST JUMP IN QUICKLY. 
          LIKE KEN SKIN'S GONNA BE THE ONE TO GIVE THE DETAIL ON THIS LOOK. 
          I MEAN, NOT EVERYTHING THAT WAS MENTIONED COULD FALL ON IN, IN OUR PURVIEW, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CITIES SURROUNDING US THAT HAVE MULTI-FAMILY RENTAL INSPECTION PROGRAMS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT WE, WE AREN'T STAFFED FOR THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE CURRENT CODES FOR THOSE KIND OF THINGS. 
          SO I THINK IF WE WERE GOING EXPAND, IF WE WERE GONNA HAVE A BUDGET CONVERSATION ABOUT EXPANDING THAT AND HAVING THAT, THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION TO HAVE. 
          AND KEN CERTAINLY THE ONE THAT COULD SPEAK TO THAT MORE BROADLY. 
          SO WHAT Y'ALL ARE EFFECTIVE COLLECTIVELY DESCRIBING IS WHAT MOST CITIES CALL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES OR COMMUNITY SERVICES. 
          AND, UH, ONE THING I WANNA POINT OUT AS WELL IS, UH, WHILE DUE TO OUR HOUSING MIX, IT WOULD LARGELY BE, UH, APARTMENT FOCUSED, BUT IT, IT'S NOT ONLY GONNA FOCUS ON APARTMENTS, IT'S FOCUSED ON NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SURE. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT APARTMENTS AS WELL AS SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          WE DO HAVE NEEDS THERE AS WELL. 
          UM, SO WHAT YOU DESCRIBE IS ESSENTIALLY, UH, TO GET TO THE BUDGETARY CONSIDERATION THAT, THAT DAVID IS, IS NOTING IS, UH, WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE STAFF CAPACITY TO DO WHAT YOU DESCRIBED, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, WITH AN APPROPRIATE STRATEGIC PLAN AND BUDGETING AND UH, PROJECTIONS FOR GROWTH AND STAFF, WE COULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. 
          AND, AND I AGREE THAT IT'S A NEED AND IT'S CERTAINLY ALIGNED WITH THE ADDISON WAY. 
          CAN, CAN YOU COME UP WITH SOME, UH, UH, SOME PLAN AND THEN, UH, WE CAN DISCUSS FURTHER OR IN DETAIL IN RETREAT? YES. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL BE DOING THAT. 
          UH, DON'T LEAN INTO THE RETREAT AND THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          AND ALSO, I DON'T WANT, PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE THOSE THOUGHTS LOOK DOWN UPON PEOPLE LEAVING APARTMENTS. 
          YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME I HEARD THAT JUST MADE ME FEEL SICK SINCE YOUR MAYOR LIVING APARTMENT ALL THIS MANY YEARS. 
          I LOVE IT. 
          I SAVE A LOT OF TRAVELING TIME. 
          I SAVE A LOT OF A HEADACHE. 
          I DON'T HAVE TO FIX ANYTHING. 
          I JUST USE FIX APP. 
          THEY COME TO EVEN REPLACE LIGHT BULB, EVERYTHING. 
          SO I GIVE MYSELF MORE TIME TO DO MY BUSINESS TO HELP THE COMMUNITY. 
          IS THAT NICE? RIGHT. 
          INSTEAD OF TRAVEL AND YOU NEED TO DO YOUR YARD WORK, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GOT TO GET RID OF THIS MINDSET. 
          YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S REASONABLE FEAR TO PEOPLE LIVING APARTMENTS, ESPECIALLY PREDOMINANTLY IN EDISON, ARE PEOPLE LIVING IN APARTMENTS, YOU KNOW? SO I HOPE BY DOING THIS OUTREACH PROGRAM AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GET A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH PEOPLE LIVING APARTMENTS AS WELL. 
          YOU KNOW, UH, MOST PEOPLE THEY ARE, UH, YOUNG, PROFESSIONAL, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN GIVE US A LOT OF GOOD RECOMMENDATION AND I HOPE AS A CITY GROW AS WELL, YOU KNOW? RIGHT. 
          AND I, I I THINK IT'S A GREAT CONVERSATION FOR THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN GEARED UP FOR, ANTICIPATING THAT CONVERSATION. 
          BUT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TRYING TO DO WITH OUR EXISTING RESOURCES. 
          I MEAN, SETTING UP MEETING MEETINGS, ME GETTING OUT AND MEETING SOME OF 'EM AND JUST LETTING THEM KNOW WHO I AM. 
          AND, UM, AND IT'S PART OF MY OUTREACH RIGHT NOW, MY FIRST HUNDRED DAYS, RIGHT? MY FIRST YEAR. 
          SO THOSE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO WITH EXISTING RESOURCES, KIND OF LOOKING AT THE PARKS, PROGRAMMING, THOSE ARE PIECES WE CAN DO. 
          BUT CERTAINLY AS WE THINK ABOUT A ROBUST PROGRAM, IT'S PERFECT TIME TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN ADVANCE OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          SO I APPRECIATE Y'ALL BRINGING THAT FORWARD. 
          IT'S GREAT TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS IN ADVANCE OF THAT STRATEGIC PLAN CONVERSATION. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WHAT'S THE NEXT STEPS ON THIS? UH, WE WILL DISCUSS MORE IN DETAIL IN THE RETREAT UPON SOMETHING FROM STAFF WILL COME UP WITH SOME PROGRAMS. YEAH, WE'LL BRING, WE'LL BRINGS, OKAY. 
          SO I DON'T WANNA STATE THE OBVIOUS ONE. 
          I'D LIKE TO THINK OUTTA THE BOX TOO. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT'S COOL. 
          ALL 
          [3.  Present and Discuss Ownership Housing Builder/Developer Outreach Results.  ]
RIGHT, LET'S GO TO THE NUMBER THREE. 
          I ALREADY READ THAT. 
          YEAH, I'LL READ THAT. 
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ALL RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, AS PART OF THIS ONGOING COMMUNITY DIALOGUE RELATED TO OWNERSHIP AND RENTAL HOUSING STAFF, UH, FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT DID CONDUCT OUTREACH, UH, TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY TARGETING, UH, DEVELOPERS AND HOME BUILDERS THAT BUILD OWNERSHIP HOUSING, UH, WHETHER THAT BE TOWN HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED HOMES, CONDOS. 
          UM, SO WITH THAT OUTREACH, UH, WE REACHED OUT TO, UH, 14 BUILDERS. 
          UH, TWO OF THOSE WERE UNDER A, UH, SINGLE PARENT COMPANY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE 13, UH, IN THIS MEMO. 
          UH, AND, UM, AS WE EXPECTED, UH, WE DID RECEIVE A STRONG RESPONSE FROM BUILDERS THAT BUILD IN URBAN CONTEXT. 
          SO IN BUILD REDEVELOPMENT BUILDERS THAT BUILD, UM, A MORE DENSE OWNERSHIP PRODUCT. 
          UM, ALSO WHAT WE SAW WITH THOSE PARTICULAR BUILDERS IS THEY'RE STARTING TO MOVE INTO A BROADER MIX OF USES AND A BROADER MIX OF HOUSING TYPES TO INCLUDE RENTAL HOUSING, WHETHER THAT BE MULTI-FAMILY OR SINGLE FAMILY. 
          SOME OF THOSE, UH, INFILL BUILDERS ALSO DO CONDO FLATS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAD A PRETTY WEAK RESPONSE, AND THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECTED AS WELL FROM, UH, BUILDERS, UH, THAT WERE, UH, HAD A, A LARGER FOOTPRINT, UH, THAT'S BUILT IN MORE SUBURBAN CONTEXT, HIGHER VOLUME, SO COMMONLY KNOWN AS PRODUCTION BUILDERS. 
          UH, WE'VE HAD A WEAK RESPONSE. 
          SO IN TOTAL, OF THOSE 14 BUILDERS THAT WE REACHED OUT TO, WE DID RECEIVE RESPONSES FROM FOUR, UH, THREE OF THOSE, UH, WERE THE MORE OF THE, UH, URBAN INFILL MIXED USE TYPE BUILDER. 
          AND THEN ONE OF THOSE WAS A, UH, PUBLICLY TRADED, UH, PRODUCTION BUILDER. 
          SO WITH THAT DISCUSSION, UH, WE COVERED A RANGE OF TOPICS, UH, FOCUSING FIRST ON TARGET DEMOGRAPHICS AND LOCATIONAL PREFERENCES, UH, AND, UH, DEVELOPER HOUSING PREFERENCES FOR THOSE BUILDERS. 
          AND THEN WE CONCLUDED OUR DISCUSSION WITH, UH, A DISCUSSION ON CONSTRAINTS TO OWNERSHIP HOUSING AT OUR PERCEIVED IN ADDISON, AND THEN POTENTIAL STRATEGIES FOR INCREASING OWNERSHIP HOUSING IN ADDISON. 
          SO BEGINNING WITH THE TARGET DEMOGRAPHICS COMPONENT OF THE DISCUSSION, UH, THESE WERE, UM, AMONGST THE FOUR, UH, BUILDERS THAT, UH, WE ENGAGED. 
          UH, THE RESPONSE IS PRETTY UNIFORM. 
          SO THEIR TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC FOR THEIR HOMES IS GENERALLY FIRST TIME HOME WITH BUYERS. 
          SO THOSE FOLKS TYPICALLY COMPRISE, UH, DOUBLE INCOME FAMILIES, UH, IN MOST CASES WITH THE DENSER PRODUCT, UH, ARE MORE OF A, A, UH, UH, HOUSEHOLD THAT, THAT HAS KIDS OR DOES NOT HAVE KIDS, EXCUSE ME, UH, WITH THE MORE SUBURBAN PRODUCT. 
          UM, WE DID SEE, UM, THE BUILDER REPORTED, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE FROM THE THREE URBAN BUILDERS IN THAT, UM, THEY ALSO SEE, UH, INTEREST FROM SINGLE PARENT HOUSEHOLDS. 
          AND, AND SOME OF THAT, UH, IN THAT CASE WILL DRIVE MORE OF A CONSIDERATION AS IT RELATES TO SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WHERE THEY'RE BUYING, UH, THAT HOME, UH, WITH THE DEVELOPER LOCATIONAL PREFERENCES. 
          UM, THE THREE URBAN, UH, INFILL BUILDERS WE'RE VERY MUCH IN STRONG ALIGNMENT IN THAT THEY GENERALLY LOOK FOR, UM, UH, EITHER EXISTING URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE WALKABLE AND HAVE GOOD ACCESS TO AMENITIES SUCH AS RETAIL, URBAN PARKS, OPEN SPACE, A WALKABLE STREET NETWORK, OR THEY LOOK AT EMERGING URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE EARLY IN THE EVOLUTION, TRANSITIONING FROM MORE OF A SUBURBAN AUTO ORIENTED CONTEXT TO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE URBAN AND WALKABLE. 
          SO WHERE YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE, UM, INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND DENSIFICATION OCCURRING. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF MORE LIKE THE, THE PATTERN WE SEE IN PLACES LIKE THE MIDWAY ROAD CORRIDOR, KINDA LIKE WHERE COBALT HOMES IS BUILDING, UM, WITH THE, UH, VOLUME, UH, BUILDER THAT PRIMARILY BUILDS IN THE SUBURBAN CONTEXT FOR THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS. 
          UH, THEY'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT, UH, VACANT LAND, TYPICALLY, USUALLY LARGER SEGMENTS OF LAND, BECAUSE THE BIG THING FOR THEM IS THE NUMBER OF LOTS THAT THEY CAN BUILD A PROJECT. 
          UH, A SMALL PROJECT FOR THEM IS GENERALLY 100, 120 LOTS AND A LARGE PROJECT CAN BE A, A MAJOR MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY, UH, UPWARDS OF 3000 LOTS. 
          UM, WITH THAT, THAT, UM, UH, VOLUME BUILDER HAD A SMALL SEGMENT OF THEIR BUSINESS THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE URBAN, UM, THAT DID MORE OF THE INFILL. 
          AND WITH THAT, UM, IT ALIGNED MORE, UH, 
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ACTUALLY STRONGLY ALIGNED WITH WHAT WE SAW IN TERMS OF LOCATIONAL PREFERENCES FROM THE URBAN BUILDERS. 
          SO SMALLER DEVELOPMENTS, GENERALLY 30 TO 60 LOTS IN THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. 
          AND, UH, LOOKING AT IF THEY CAN FIND VACANT LAND IDEAL, BUT UNDERUTILIZED LAND, SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE CHEAPER, UH, IN AN URBAN, UH, OR EVOLVING URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS KIND OF THEIR WHEELHOUSE, UH, WITH THEIR HOUSING PREFERENCES. 
          SO WITH THE THREE, UM, URBAN INFILL, UH, DEVELOPERS, UH, GENERALLY THEY'RE, UM, PRIMARY PRODUCT TYPE, UH, THEY'RE KIND OF IN THEIR WHEELHOUSE IS THE URBAN TOWN HOMES. 
          SO WHAT YOU SEE WITH THE INTOWN INTOWN HOMES PROJECT THAT ADDISON GROVE OR THE COBALT HOMES PROJECT, THAT THREE STORY TOWN HOME THAT IS KIND OF THEIR, THEIR STAPLE PRODUCT, UM, WITH, UM, COSTS INCREASING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS FOR DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, SOME OF THESE URBAN INFILL BUILDERS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, HAVE TRANSITIONED, UH, INTO SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL. 
          SO BUILDING A SIMILAR PRODUCT TYPE, BUT AS A RENTAL PRODUCT. 
          UH, AND THEN ALSO MULTI-FAMILY RENTAL TO INCLUDE A LITTLE BIT OF NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL ON THOSE PROJECTS. 
          SO MORE OF A MIXED USE PROJECT. 
          THEY'RE NOT, UH, WHILE MOST OF THOSE COMPANIES STARTED PRIMARILY DOING, UH, OWNERSHIP TOWNHOMES, THEY'VE EVOLVED AS THE COST AND COMPLEXITY OF DEVELOPMENT HAS, UH, GONE UP, UM, WITH THE, UH, PUBLICLY TRADED, UH, UH, VOLUME, UH, BUILDER. 
          UH, THEY DO PRIMARILY SUBURBAN STYLE HOUSING, DETACHED HOMES, 4,000 TO 7,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, BUT THEY DO DO A FAIR AMOUNT OF SUBURBAN TOWN HOMES. 
          SO GENERALLY TWO STORY TOWN HOMES, A A HANDFUL OF THREE STORY, UH, PROJECTS, AND THEN A HANDFUL OF SINGLE STORY PROJECTS, BUT GENERALLY MEDIUM DENSITY TOWNHOMES. 
          SO WHERE YOU SEE IN ADDISON, GENERALLY A 15 TO 20 UNITS PER ACRE. 
          THEY'RE MORE ALONG THE EIGHT TO 15 UNITS PER ACRE, SO SLIGHTLY LESS DENSE, A LITTLE MORE, UH, A LITTLE MORE ROOM. 
          AND, AND THEY CAN DO THAT AND HAVE THAT PRODUCT TYPE GENERALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEALING WITH VACANT, UNDEVELOPED LAND AND, AND DEVELOPMENT COSTS ARE LOWER. 
          UH, WHERE THAT, UM, SUBURBAN PRODUCTION BUILDER DID DO URBAN HOUSING, THAT URBAN INFILL PRODUCT, THEY WERE A LITTLE MORE UNIQUE IN THAT THEY GENERALLY DID NOT DO, UM, ATTACHED HOMES. 
          THEY DID, UH, DETACHED HOMES, BUT, UH, VERY COMPACT AND VERY CLOSE TOGETHER. 
          SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO TO THREE FOOT SETBACKS, VERY URBAN, UH, VERY, UH, SMALL LOT SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'D SEE WITH THE TOWN HOME. 
          BUT, UH, THEY SAW VALUE IN CONTINUING TO DO DETACHED HOMES. 
          UM, LOOKING AND, AND STARTING ON THE DISCUSSION AS IT RELATES TO, UH, DEVELOPMENT CONSTRAINTS IN ADDISON, UH, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CONSTRAINT, AND THIS IS COMING FROM A GROUP, UH, WHERE THE URBAN BUILDERS, UH, TWO OF THE FOUR THAT WE INTERVIEWED, UH, DEFINITELY HAVE INTEREST IN ADDISON. 
          THEY, UH, WOULD LOVE TO BE ACTIVE IN ADDISON. 
          UH, THEIR CHALLENGE, AND LIKE IT'S COME UP IN A LOT OF THESE DISCUSSIONS IS THERE'S JUST NOT MANY PROPERTIES WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, THERE'S VERY LITTLE VACANT LAND AS, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED MANY TIMES THAT'S IDEAL. 
          BUT EVEN WHERE THERE'S UNDERUTILIZED LAND AND LAND THAT CAN BE REDEVELOPED, NOT ALL OF IT IS IN A REALLY GOOD LOCATION WHERE IT MAKES SENSE AND WHERE THE MARKET WILL DEMAND OWNERSHIP. 
          HOUSING, WE TALKED IN THE TOWN HALL MEETING ABOUT THE AWKWARDNESS OF HAVING OWNERSHIP HOUSING FRONTING ON BELTLINE ROAD. 
          UH, THAT'S, THAT'S AN AWKWARD CONDITION TO, TO SELL AS WELL. 
          SO, UH, WHERE THEY CAN FIND LAND THAT'S SET BACK A BIT FROM THE CORRIDOR. 
          SO ONCE AGAIN, THE, THE SUPER EIGHT MOTEL SITE, IT WAS KIND OF THE UNICORN, IT WAS VACANT AND IT WAS SET BACK AND, AND BUFFERED FROM MIDWAY ROAD. 
          SO THE FACT THAT IT BECAME AN OWNERSHIP HOUSING PROJECT SHOULD NOT BE SURPRISING. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE OBVIOUSLY DISCUSSED A LOT AND CAME UP IN IN THIS DISCUSSION IS DEVELOPMENT COST. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO DO A VERY DENSE, UH, PRODUCT, UM, IN, UH, FOR, UH, OWNERSHIP HOUSING IN ADDISON. 
          SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT COBALT HOMES, THEY'RE DOING 31 LOTS ON 1.8 ACRES, UH, THAT'S QUITE DENSE, UH, FOR OWNERSHIP HOUSING. 
          UH, AND EVEN AT THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SELLING HOMES OVER $500,000. 
          THERE BECOMES A POINT WHEN YOU'RE DEVELOPING OWNERSHIP HOUSING WHERE YOUR MARKET IS SO LIMITED IN TERMS OF WHO PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THAT TYPE OF HOUSING AT THAT LOCATION. 
          SO IT CAN BE VERY CHALLENGING TO DEAL WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COST. 
          SO WHERE THEY SEE OPPORTUNITIES TO GET VACANT LAND OR WHERE THERE'S A PARKING LOT THAT'S UNDERUTILIZED, 
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OR A REDEVELOPMENT SITE THAT IS SET BACK FROM THE CORRIDOR, THAT'S KINDA WHERE OWNERSHIP HOUSING, UH, WOULD BE LIKELY TO BE MOST SUCCESSFUL HERE IN ADDISON. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING WITH THAT, UH, AS FAR AS CONSTRAINTS GO IS, UM, FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED IS THAT WHILE WE DON'T COMPARE TO CITIES LIKE DALLAS IN TERMS OF, UM, THE INEFFICIENCY OR PERCEIVED INEFFICIENCY IN OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESSES, OUR ZONING PROCESS, UM, IT'S NOT ALWAYS CLEAR WITH OUR POLICIES AND WITH OUR ZONING WHERE WE AS A COMMUNITY WANT OWNERSHIP HOUSING. 
          UM, SO WE DO HAVE SOME GUIDANCE, CERTAINLY IN, IN SPECIAL AREA STUDIES LIKE MIDWAY SOUTH OR, OR THE ADDISON CIRCLE SPECIAL AREA STUDY OR HOUSING POLICY. 
          BUT AS, AS WE ALL KNOW, OUR HOUSING POLICY JUST SAYS WE WANT OWNERSHIP HOUSING. 
          IT DOESN'T SAY WHERE WE WANT TO OWNERSHIP HOUSING OR WHERE WE THINK OWNERSHIP HOUSING IS APPROPRIATE. 
          SO IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A GUESSING GAME FOR THEM. 
          THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE RISK THAT WE DO FEEL IT'S APPROPRIATE THERE. 
          AND, AND, UH, IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY BECAUSE ANYTIME WE'RE CONSIDERING REDEVELOP REUSE, THERE'S INTERESTING ADJACENCIES. 
          IT COULD BE OWNERSHIP HOUSING ADJACENT TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH HAS ITS OWN, UH, CHALLENGES. 
          OR IT COULD BE OWNERSHIP, HOUSING ADJACENCY, OTHER OWNERSHIP HOUSING, WHICH DOESN'T ALWAYS SEE SUPPORT, UH, CUZ IT'S CHANGE, UM, WITH THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THIS APPLIES TO MULTI-FAMILY, UH, HOUSING AS WELL. 
          WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY ZONING, UH, THAT EXISTS WHERE SOMEONE CAN COME IN BUY RIGHT, AND, AND, AND HAVE A GUARANTEE IF THEY CAN BUILD AN OWNERSHIP HOUSING PRODUCT THERE. 
          UM, THEY ALWAYS, UH, WITH ANY FORM OF HOUSING SOMEONE HAS TO REZONE UNLESS THEY'RE BUYING A, UH, AN EXISTING ENTITLED PROJECT FROM ANOTHER DEVELOPER THAT ALREADY WENT THROUGH THAT. 
          SO THAT'S A POTENTIAL BARRIER, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE SMALLER DEVELOPERS THAT DON'T HAVE THE, THE CASH OR THE TIME TO THROW AROUND THAT A MAJOR INSTITUTIONAL OWNERSHIP HOUSING DEVELOPER OR RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPER HAS. 
          HAVING THE CERTAINTY OF BEING ABLE TO GET THROUGH A PROCESS QUICKLY OR NOT EVEN HAVING TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS, UH, HELPS. 
          SO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIAL STRATEGIES FOR INCREASING OWNERSHIP HOUSING IN ADDISON, IT REALLY KINDA, UH, TARGETED THOSE ISSUES. 
          SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PROVIDED BY STAFF, UH, SO, SO ALANDO AND THEN SOME, UH, CAME, UH, FROM THE DEVELOPERS. 
          UH, SO THE FIRST ONE IS TARGETED OUTREACH TO THE BROKER COMMUNITY. 
          UH, FREQUENTLY WITH, UH, DEVELOPERS, UH, THEY, PARTICULARLY SMALLER DEVELOPERS, THEY'RE NOT BEATING THE STREETS LOOKING FOR, UH, PROJECTS AVAILABLE LAND. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY OR THE DATA OPERATION TO BE, UH, SEARCHING ALL OVER THE PLACE FOR PROJECT SITES. 
          SO A LOT OF THAT WORK IS DONE BY THE BROKER COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, IF THE BROKER COMMUNITY DOESN'T HAVE THE AWARENESS THAT ADDISON REALLY WANTS SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING IN AN AREA, UM, THAT'S ONE POTENTIAL LOST OPPORTUNITY. 
          IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN JUST BECAUSE WE WANT SOMETHING WHEN WE TELL A BROKER IT WILL HAPPEN, BUT THE FACT THAT THEY MAY NOT BE AS AWARE AS WE ARE OF THAT ASPIRATIONAL GOAL, UH, IS, IS A POTENTIAL LOST OPPORTUNITY. 
          SO DOING MORE OUTREACH TO THE BROKER COMMUNITY TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT MORE OWNERSHIP HOUSING AND, AND WHERE THERE'S DECLINING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OR MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S OPPORTUNITY TO FACILITATE, UH, THAT TYPE OF HOUSING, UH, POLICY AND REGULATORY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE SOUGHT FEEDBACK EARLIER TONIGHT ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, THAT REALLY IS THE, THE NEXT STEP FOR THAT. 
          UH, IT IS, UH, MY, UH, DESIRE WITH THAT PROCESS FOR US TO, UH, REALLY CREATE A, UM, COMPREHENSIVE AND COHESIVE POLICY RELATED TO HOW, UH, AND REDEVELOPMENT THAT IS. 
          UH, THAT IS WHAT MY DEPARTMENT OF MY PROGRAM AND WHAT THIS ONGOING COMMUNITY DIALOGUE REALLY NEEDS, UH, TO, TO HELP US, UH, REALLY REACH OUR FULL POTENTIAL, UM, AS A COMMUNITY. 
          AND THEN FROM THAT LONG RANGE PLANNING POLICY, UH, DEVELOP, UH, REGULATIONS THAT, UH, IMPLEMENT THAT POL THOSE POLICY GOALS, UM, EXPEDITED DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. 
          UM, THERE'S, UH, SOME POTENTIAL PITFALLS HERE. 
          I THINK WE ALL LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO WEIGH IN ON THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME. 
          UM, FOR US HERE IN ADDISON, WE ONLY GET SO MUCH AND, UM, UH, WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE SEE IS GONNA BE REALLY COMPLEX AND IT'S GONNA BE REDEVELOPMENT AND REUSE. 
          SO HAVING GOOD OVERSIGHT 
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OF THAT IS CRITICAL. 
          BUT THERE'S SOMETIMES WE CAN GET CAUGHT UP IN TOO MUCH OVERSIGHT WHERE POTENTIALLY WE COULD SLOW A PROJECT DOWN AND, AND, UH, MAYBE EVEN CREATE A BARRIER TO SOMEONE EVEN PURSUING A PROJECT. 
          SO SOMETHING LIKE REQUIRING FULL BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND DETAILED LANDSCAPE PLANS AND FLOOR PLANS EARLY ON IN A ZONING PROCESS, WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT, UH, RIGHT SIZING THAT AND SEEING AND EVALUATING WHAT IS CRITICAL AND, AND WHAT ISN'T. 
          UM, AND THEN THE LAST ONE WE'VE DE DISCUSSED QUITE A BIT, UM, IT WAS, I'D SAY IT IT'D BE MORE OF A FOCUS FOR LARGE PROJECTS LIKE ADDISON GROVE, LESS OF A FOCUS FOR SMALL INFILL PROJECTS THAT ARE THE WHEELHOUSE OF THE SMALL INFILL DEVELOPERS. 
          BUT IF WE'RE EXPECTING A A 20 ACRE SINGLE FAMILY PROJECT, UH, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND, UH, UH, MANY BUILDERS THAT CAN PULL THAT OFF. 
          WE'RE SEEING THAT EVEN WITH AN INCENTIVIZED ADDISON GROVE PROJECT. 
          UM, SO, BUT IF THAT'S THE DESIRE, THE TOWN WILL, WILL HAVE TO BE AN AGGRESSIVE PARTNER TO HELP ASSEMBLE LAND. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'D, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. 
          I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I DO HAVE A GOOD COMMENT SINCE, YOU KNOW, SINCE THERE'S NO MORE APARTMENTS, UH, UH, PROPOSITION AND I HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, AND WE SPEND MORE TIME IN DOING THOSE RESEARCH, ACTUALLY, IT'S REALLY GOOD BECAUSE WE KNOW WHICH AREA GOING TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP INTO WHICH PROJECT. 
          SO GIVE ALL THE CITIZENS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. 
          AND THAT'S THE REASON ALWAYS EMPHASIZE THIS LU MEANS WIN WINGS. 
          YOU HAVE TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND TO THE EXTENT, AND PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE STAFF DOING. 
          AND THEN LIKE A KID HAS DONE SUCH WONDERFUL JOB AND DO A LOT OF RESEARCH, DID A GREAT PRESENTATION ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES, YOU KNOW, AND IF IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF NO MORE OPPONENTS INITIATIVE, WE WOULDN'T SPEND SO MUCH TIME ON THIS. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I SAID IS LOUIS MEANS WAYNE, THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD WAY TO DO, UH, APPRECIATE VALERIE COLLINS AND GIVE US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. 
          AND I BELIEVE THIS IS GREAT COMMUNITY IN A WAY, UH, COUNCIL AND MYSELF, WE'RE ALL WILLING TO SPEND OUR TIME, EFFORT TO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY BETTER COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, SO WE, WE ACCEPT ALL THE CHALLENGE AND WE OVERCOME THE CHALLENGE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE DONE WONDERFUL JOB. 
          I REPEATEDLY SAID IT ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES, BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL ENCOURAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, DO YOUR BEST. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I'LL JUST SAY THAT HISTORICALLY ADDISON HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR MOVING THINGS THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS QUICKLY. 
          I THINK THAT THAT HAS PROBABLY CHANGED SOME, AT LEAST IN TALKING WITH DEVELOPERS. 
          AND SO I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT STEPS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT PROCESS MORE EFFECTIVE. 
          YOU GAVE A COUPLE OF GREAT EXAMPLES, AND I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT. 
          YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH HAVE, UH, HAD HUGE CHALLENGES GETTING, UH, GETTING, UH, EXPEDITED DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESSES AND, UH, WHERE, UH, UH, I HEAR ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I'M, I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE, UH, SEVERAL BUILDERS THAT WOULD, UH, LIKE TO HEAR THAT ABOUT US TAKING, UH, TAKING A BETTER, UH, VIEW OF THAT. 
          SO OF THESE STRATEGIES, THE POTENTIAL STRATEGIES, ARE THESE SOMETHING THAT, UM, UH, NEED TO BE DEVELOPED DURING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? OR IS IT, UH, DOES IT GO BEFOREHAND, UH, FOR A HOUSING POLICY ADJUSTMENT? OR HOW DO YOU ENVISION IF THESE PARTICULAR STRATEGIES, 1, 2, 3, 4, WERE TO BE, UH, EMBRACED? I THINK SOME CAN HAPPEN RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, TARGETED OUTREACH TO THE BROKER COMMUNITY, UH, CERTAINLY CAN, UH, EXPEDITED DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS IS REALLY PART OF THE, THE UDC. 
          AND WHEN I CAN GET BACK TO MY DAY JOB AND, AND, AND TAKE OFF MY, MY HOUSING, UH, POLICY, UH, UH, CZAR, UH, HAT , UM, I'LL BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON THAT. 
          UH, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY THE NEXT STEP. 
          WE'RE FOCUSING ON PROCESS. 
          SO, UH, WE CAN DO THAT THERE. 
          UM, THE LAND ASSEMBLY ACQUISITION COST PARTICIPATION PIECE, I THINK THAT'S 
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A, A BROADER DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE WITH Y'ALL AS PART OF YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          AND THEN IN MY MIND, THE BIGGEST PIECE OF THIS IS, IS REALLY THE, THE POLICY PIECE. 
          SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE COMPONENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT DEAL WITH LAND USE POLICY AND HOUSING, UM, IS, IS REALLY OUR, OUR MAIN GAP AS FAR AS STAFF'S ABILITY TO AGGRESSIVELY TARGET OWNERSHIP HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES. 
          WHAT WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO DO IS PAINT OURSELVES INTO A CORNER HERE AND, YOU KNOW, PUT THE CAR BEFORE THE HORSE. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA BE RELYING ON, ON THAT KIND OF, UH, GUIDANCE SO THAT WE CAN HELP WITH THIS POLICY DEVELOPMENT OR ADJUSTMENT, AS IT WERE. 
          AND I THINK KEN LAID IT OUT WELL ON THEN THE, I LIKE THE WAY HE KIND OF HAS FOUR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES IN THE COMP PLAN OH ONE CATEGORY AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO ALREADY. 
          SO I THINK THE STRATEGIC CONVERSATION, AND I MEAN IF, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COST PARTICIPATION, IF WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE SAY WE WANT, UM, OWNERSHIP, TOWN HOMES, OWNERSHIP, SO THAT'S SUCH A PRIORITY FOR US OVER ANY OTHER KIND OF MULTI-FAMILY THAT WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE THAT. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO HEAR FROM COUNCIL. 
          SO IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, WE, I JUST NEED TO HEAR THAT FROM COUNCIL SO WE HAVE THAT DIRECTION GOING FORWARD. 
          SO THAT'S CERTAINLY A GOOD CONVERSATION, AGAIN FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, AS WE A LOT BEFORE YOU DO THAT, BEFORE WE CONTINUE ON, THAT, THERE SEEMED TO BE, DURING THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD, UH, COMMUNITY MEETING, THERE'S A FIXATION ON THE PERCENTAGES, UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT WERE GIVEN, UH, RENTAL VERSUS VERSUS HOMES 84% 16. 
          NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NECESSARILY CORRECT, AND I TEND TO DOUBT IT RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, BUT WE'VE BEEN AS HIGH AS 90% HERE IN ADDISON AND LOW AS 30, 40 YEARS, PROBABLY SEVEN. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT 20, 24, 70 24, I, I'M 24% A SINGLE FAMILY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, OR, OR FEE SIMPLE, RIGHT? OWNERSHIP, YOU KNOW, PUT THIS WAY. 
          SO, AND, AND, AND, AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY AND HAD CONVERSATIONS, CUZ I'VE APPROACHED A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE, UH, SIGNED UP ON, ON THIS WEBSITE TO, UM, UH, VOICED THEIR CONCERN. 
          I, I CAN'T GET A NUMBER ON IT. 
          WHAT, WHAT'S COMFORTABLE? WHERE DO YOU, WHERE DO YOU SEE US? WHERE DO YOU, LIKE, THEY JUST KNOW THEY DON'T LIKE THE NUMBER THAT THEY'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW. 
          AND, UH, A PERCENTAGE, UH, A FEW CALCULATIONS HERE. 
          AND IF WE, IF WE DOUBLED THE NUMBER OF HOMES WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T WANNA GET TO 28 70 2%. 
          AND THAT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN IN ADDISON. 
          SO IS THERE, IS THERE SOME NUMBER THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT THAT, THAT WE COULD COMFORTABLY SAY OR TARGET? I THINK IT'S, IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE NUANCED, RIGHT? AND I THINK THAT'S TO THE MAYOR'S POINT OF HAVING THIS, THESE DISCUSSIONS OVER THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS. 
          I THINK A BIG BENEFIT OF IT IS THE PRESENTATION THAT KIM GAVE, UH, AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING. 
          IT WAS SHOWING THE HISTORY OF WHERE WE GOT HERE, THE PLANE THAT GOES INTO IT, THAT REALLY PUTS IT IN THE CONTEXT OF IT'S NOT JUST ONE NUMBER, IT'S A HISTORY. 
          IT'S, IT'S WHO WE ARE RIGHT NOW. 
          IT'S THE COST OF LAND HERE. 
          IT'S EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CONTINUOUSLY. 
          SO, AGAIN, AND POINTING TO THE FUTURE WE'RE, I KNOW WE'RE A BROKEN RECORD TO SOME EXTENT, BUT THEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE PART WHERE WE CAN REALLY HAVE THAT NUANCED DISCUSSION WITH THE FOLKS WHO ARE ON THE COMMITTEE AND THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO SAY, IT'S NOT JUST ONE NUMBER. 
          IT'S ABOUT WHAT IS, HOW DID WE BECOME ADDISON? HOW, WHAT IS IT? WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS? SO I, I JUST, AND I KNOW THAT'S DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT THAT NUMBER, RIGHT? BUT THAT'S, AND YOU KNOW THIS, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE NUANCE DISCUSSION THAT THAT HAS TO BE HAD ALONG WITH THEM. 
          OH, BY THE WAY, CAN WHEN OUR DEVELOPMENT CODES GOING TO BE COMPLETED DONE, I KNOW WITH COVID IT IS BEEN DELAYED QUITE A BIT. 
          WHAT ARE THE REASON I WOULD MENTION WON'T IMAGINE THERE'S BEEN MANY YEARS WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT JOB THEN I'M GOING TO BE TERM OUT IN TWO AND A HALF MONTHS. 
           NOT NUMBER ONE. 
          NUMBER TWO, SINCE I ALWAYS BELIEVE WITH UBER LYFTS NOW, SO WE DON'T NEED SO MUCH, UH, VACANT, UNDERUTILIZED, UH, PARKING LOT. 
          SO IF THAT'S DONE, THEN WE CAN CONVERT IT LOT OF, AND USE UNDER UTILIZED PARKING LOT TO SOME OTHER USEFUL DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          SO, UM, THEN YOU WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING AN UPDATE ON THE EDC PROCESS, UH, TO YOU, UH, SHORTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW FOR, FOR ME TO ANSWER THAT BASED ON MY LAST, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS, UH, UH, OF WORK, UH, I'D BE SPECULATING. 
          I NEED TO PUT, UH, SOME 
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THOUGHT TO THAT AND GIVE YOU A THOUGHT FORWARD RESPONSE. 
          I, I KNOW YOU'RE EXTREMELY BUSY. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I SYMPATHIZE YOU QUITE A BIT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PROBABLY ONE OF THE BUSIEST DIRECTORS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IN TOWN, LISTEN AWAY, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE DOING GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, SO TO PUT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, DAVID, YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT THIS IS A MORE COMPLEX PROCESS STEMMING FROM GQS COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, FIXATION ON THE PERCENTAGE OF FEE, SIMPLE VERSUS MULTI OR, YOU KNOW, OWNERSHIP VERSUS RENTAL. 
          SO THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES, WHAT, WHAT IS THE MAGIC PERCENTAGE THAT THAT MAKES EVERYONE FEEL LIKE WE'VE ACHIEVED BALANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT? WE'RE NOT FRYING EGGS. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU PUT, PUT YOUR EGGS IN THE PAN AND YOU DECIDE YOU'RE GO ON SUNNYSIDE UP AND YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR MIND QUICKLY AND MAKE SCRAMBLED EGGS AFTER YOU'VE STARTED MAKING SUNNYSIDE UP EGGS, RIGHT? THE, THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE IN IS MORE OF A SLOW COOKER. 
          AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FLASH FRY VERSUS THE SLOW COOKER ANALOGY IS OVERDONE, BUT WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF DOING THE CROCK POT SLOW COOKING, LONG-TERM VISION. 
          EVEN IF WE WERE TO DECIDE WE WANNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, 80% TO, TO 20%, OR, YOU KNOW, 70% TO 30%, WHATEVER THE MAGIC NUMBER IS, THERE'S TOO MANY, TOO MANY EXTERNAL FACTORS THAT WOULD DISALLOW US TO EXPEDITIOUSLY GET TO THAT NUMBER UNLESS WE WERE JUST GOD AND WE COULD CHANGE THE MARKET AND WE COULD WAVE OUR MAGIC WAND. 
          SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THE WORK OF THE COUNCIL IS LONG TERM WORK AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR STAFF. 
          AS YOU MENTIONED, KEN, YOU HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY BUSY WITH RESPONDING TO COMMUNITY VOICE OF THE COMMUNITY, WHICH SOMETIMES HAPPENS. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE STAY FOCUSED ON WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THAT IS BIGGER PICTURE, LONG TERM, DOING THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AND NOT TRYING TO THINK THAT WE CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE WAY WE'RE FRYING OUR EGGS. 
          IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN THAT FAST. 
          SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE STUCK, BUT WE CAN MAKE CALCULATED CHANGES. 
          WE CAN DEVELOP POLICY, WE CAN DO STRATEGIC PLANNING, WE CAN DO ALL OF THESE THINGS, BUT EVEN AT THAT, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE INCREMENTAL, INCREMENTAL CHANGES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN DROWNING AND THIS TOPIC FOR A LONG TIME. 
          ED, MORE TO NA. 
          LASTLY NIGHTS THE, THE NEW ASSISTANT , SHE'S WORKING TOO. 
          . 
          SO EILEEN AND I BROUGHT THIS TOPIC UP TO CITY MANAGER BACK IN AUGUST WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT. 
          AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S BEYOND MAKING SCRAMBLED EGGS, I ALREADY COOKED. 
          SO NOW WE GOTTA JUST MAKE SURE WE DO THE BEST WITH THE EGGS THAT WE HAVE. 
          UM, IN YOUR, YOUR RESPONSE ABOUT TRYING TO GET A A NUMBER FROM THEM, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT TOOK ME TO THE RESULTS. 
          MORE OF THE RESULTS. 
          WHAT OUTCOMES DO WE WANT VERSUS WHAT ARBITRARY NUMBER OR FLASHPOINT STATEMENT. 
          NO MORE RENTALS. 
          DO WE WANT TO SAY WHAT OUTCOMES WANT? SO THAT'S KIND OF MORE WHERE I WAS THINKING, GOOD JOB ON THIS, BY THE WAY. 
          THIS IS REALLY, REALLY GOOD. 
          AND I THINK PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT ADDISON'S DOING ABOUT THIS NOW SHOULD READ YOUR REPORT AND READ THE LAST PAGE WITH YOUR, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL, UH, DIRECTIONS OR STRATEGIES THAT WE CAN, BECAUSE IT SAYS SOME REALLY ACTIONABLE THINGS THAT WE CAN START RIGHT NOW, LIKE TARGET THE, THE, UM, THE BROKERS AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE STARTING TO DO NOW. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S WELL DONE. 
          AND THE, THE, THE FOUR CATEGORIES THAT YOU GAVE AS FAR AS DIRECTION TO GO AND IF, IF WE EXPEDITE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS, YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS COMING. 
          THEY DIDN'T TELL US THEY PULLED THE WOOL OVER OUR EYES, THEY JUST RAM ROTTED IT THROUGH. 
          RIGHT? THEN IF YOU GO TOO SLOW, NOBODY WANTS TO DO BUSINESS WITH US, RIGHT? SO THAT'S MY LOT IN LIFE. 
          , I FEEL YOUR PAIN. 
          WELL YOU'RE HANDLING IT WELL, KEN. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          AND I THINK THAT CAUSED THIS CONVERSATION WELL. 
          AND ACTUALLY WHEN YOU AND I WENT AND SPOKE TO ME TO GET THIS ROLLING, UM, I DON'T THINK WE, WE, AT LEAST WE DIDN'T KNOW AS A TOWN THAT WE WERE DOING THESE THINGS, NOR NECESSARILY DID COUNCIL GIVE THAT DIRECTION TO STAFF. 
          SO THIS IS A GOOD, UM, STEP. 
          SAY THAT AGAIN, MARK. 
          BEFORE, UH, WE ASKED THESE QUESTIONS, I CERTAINLY DIDN'T KNOW ALL OF THIS DATA AND THAT WE WERE SPECIFICALLY TARGETING 
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OR NOT TARGETING CUZ PEOPLE WOULD SAY, DID YOU EVEN ASK APPROACHED BROKERS AND DEVELOPERS? OH YEAH. 
          TO FEE SIMPLE. 
          DID YOU FOCUS ON, EVERYBODY WANTS TO SAY THAT ALL ALL PEOPLE WANNA SAY THAT. 
          AND THIS, YOU KNOW, ANSWERS THE QUESTION PARTIALLY. 
          AND I, I, I UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WEREN'T SO MUCH DOING THAT AND THIS IS MORE OF A PROACTIVE RE UH, APPROACH, AT LEAST THAT WHAT IT IS TO TARGET THEM. 
          AND, AND JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE CONTEXT ON THAT, UH, I, I'VE WORKED IN, IN THREE OTHER COMMUNITIES AND, AND CITIES DON'T TYPICALLY DO OUTREACH FOR HOUSING. 
          UH, IF THEY DO, IT'S MORE LIKE THE, THE T OD PROJECT WHERE IT'S A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. 
          UM, SO IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I'VE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED THAT WE'VE SEEN IN MY CAREER, BUT IT'S GIVEN THE, THE POLICY, UH, UH, CONSIDERATIONS WE'VE LOOKED AT WITH THE HOUSING POLICY AND OTHER SPECIAL AREA STUDIES, IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING, UH, THAT, UH, WAS, UH, IT HELPS US GET A BETTER PERSPECTIVE ON THE ISSU ISSUE AS STAFF. 
          HERE'S THE PERSPECTIVE. 
          THE TOWN SPENT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS INVESTING IN A BLUEPRINT STATUE AT THE SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF ADDISON CIRCLE. 
          WHAT DOES THAT REPRESENT? IT'S BLUEPRINTS. 
          BLUEPRINTS THAT ARE IN BLOOM BECAUSE THIS TOWN PLANS. 
          AND SO IF YOU EVER FORGET OR LOSE SIGHT OF WHAT THE TOWN LEADERS ARE DOING, JUST LOOK AT THE BLUEPRINT STATUE. 
          IT'S THE BIGGEST PIECE OF ART WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S THE MOST RECOGNIZED REPRESENTATION OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON. 
          EVERYONE'S GOT THE BLUEPRINTS BEHIND THEM. 
          IF YOU'RE TAKE, IF YOU'RE REPRESENTING ADDISON, IT'S THE BLUEPRINT, STATUES STATUE RATHER. 
          AND THAT, THAT'S JUST, I MEAN, THAT JUST SUMS IT UP. 
          UM, ALL OF THE YEARS OF PLANNING BRING US TO THIS POINT AND THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA GET US SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE. 
          WE'VE JUST GOTTA KEEP DOING THAT. 
          YEAH, THAT'S HOW WE CALL THE VISION. 
          SO IT SAYS THE WAY PURCHASE THOSE LAND FOR T O D PRIOR TO 30 YEARS AGO, WE HAVE DONE THE PRIOR MAYORS, CITY MANAGER, CITY COUNCIL, THEY HAVE DONE A LOT OF GOOD DEEDS. 
          SO, UH, NOW WE ARE EXECUTING THEIR VISION. 
          SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS THINK, I ALWAYS THANK ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR FREE FOR THIS CITY. 
          THE RECOMMENDATION I WOULD MAKE TO ANYBODY IT IS SIX PAGE READ, GO GET THE COMP PLAN AND LOOK AT HISTORY OF ADDISON SHORT SIX PAGE. 
          IT'S, I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE LEARN A LOT OF THINGS JUST IN THOSE SIX PAGES, HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE NOW YEAH. 
          AND HOW WE ARE SO UNIQUE COMPARED TO ANY PLACE ELSE AROUND. 
          SO IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S FASCINATING AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY, BUT TELL IT, IT KIND OF, IT EXPLAINS A LOT. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? WELL DONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU KEN. 
          THANKS. 
          GREAT JOB. 
          SO ITEM NUMBER 
          [4.  Present and Discuss the Planning and Zoning Commission Annual Report for Calendar Year 2022.]
FOUR, PRESENT, DISCUSS THE PLANNING AND THE ZONING COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2022. 
          HONOR, IT'S GOT A TOUGH POSITION. 
          YEAH,  CAN AND, UH, CHIEF SPENCER AND ALL THE ENSUING DISCUSSIONS, JUST BE KIND IN YOUR JUDGMENT IF YOU PLEASE . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          I'M TOM SOS, CHAIRPERSON OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE 2023 TERM ON BEHALF MY FELLOW PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS. 
          I WANNA THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, AS WELL AS ALL MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR GIVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE ADDISON PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION 2022 ANNUAL REPORT. 
          THE INITIAL DRAFT OF THIS REPORT WAS PREPARED OF COURSE, BY KEN, UM, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND LESLIE KNIGHT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. 
          THE REPORT WAS PRESENTED TO THE P AND Z COMMISSIONERS AT OUR NORMAL WORK SESSION MEETING FOR BOARD 21ST THIS YEAR. 
          A FEW RECOMMENDED REVISIONS WERE OFFERED TO THE STAFF, AND I NOW HAVE THE HONOR OF PRESENTING THIS FINAL ANNUAL REPORT TO YOU THIS EVENING. 
          FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU'RE BEAR WITH ME FOR A FEW MINUTES, I NEED TO GET TO THE LEGAL DISCLAIMERS OUT OF THE WAY. 
          YOU CAN, UH, IF YOU WISH, YOU CAN FOLLOW ALONG. 
          THEY'RE ON THE PAGE ONE. 
          SO, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS GOVERNED BY ITS ADOPTED RULES, REGULATIONS, AND PROCEDURES. 
          THESE RULES STIPULATE UNDER ARTICLE THREE DUTIES OF THE COMMISSION, PARAGRAPH J, THAT THE COMMISSION SHALL SUBMIT EACH YEAR A PROGRESS REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL SUMMARIZING ITS ACTIVITIES, MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR THE PAST YEAR, AND 
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A PROPOSED WORK PROGRAM FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. 
          THE REPORT SHALL CONTAIN FOR THE YEAR, THE ATTENDANCE RECORD OF ALL MEMBERS, AND THE IDENTITY OF COMMISSIONED OFFICERS. 
          I HOPE ALL OF YOU HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY BEFORE AND AFTER REVIEW THIS REPORT. 
          IT IS NOT MY INTENTION TO READ THE ENTIRE REPORT TO YOU, SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC PERHAPS I DO NOT COVER, PLEASE STOP ME, ASK QUESTIONS, AND WE DISCUSS 'EM FURTHER. 
          SO, ALL RIGHT. 
          YEP. 
          FURTHER ADO, LET'S GET STARTED. 
          TO SAY THE LEAST 2022 WAS AWESOME AND QUITE A FEW NUMBER OF REASONS. 
          LOOKING FIRST AT PERSONNEL CHANGES, WE STARTED OFF FIRST THING IN JANUARY, ADDING JULIE BRANSON COMMISSION FOLLOWING THE RESIGNATION OF EILEEN RESNICK TO RUN SUCCESSFULLY, I MAY ADD FOR CITY COUNCIL. 
          EILEEN WAS ALSO THE COMMISSION CHAIR AT THE TIME, AND WITH HER POSITION VACATED, I WAS HONORED THAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS DEEM ME WORTHY TO BE HER REPLACEMENT. 
          WE ALSO ELECTED CHRIS DNCE, S D DEFENSE, FRANCISCO, TO SERVE AS VICE CHAIR. 
          THEN LESLIE KNIGHT, WHO WE'VE MENTIONED, JOINED THE TOWN STAFF IN MAY OF 2022, SERVICE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. 
          AND FINALLY, MOST RECENTLY, DECEMBER, 2022, JOHN MEDICALLY MEKI COMPLETED HIS THIRD AND FINAL TERM OF, OF ON THE COMMISSION. 
          JOHN SERVED WITH THE HIGHEST INTEGRITY AND WAS THE INSPIRATION TO US ALL DURING HIS TIME ON THE COMMISSION. 
          AND WHILE IT WILL BE NOTED AGAIN IN NEXT YEAR'S REPORT, I FEEL I NEED TO ADD THAT ZACH FORTHRIGHT REPLACED JOHN AND DIANE CHAVEZ, WHO'S, WHO HAS COME ON RECENTLY TAKING NANCY CRAIG'S POSITION, WHO ALSO JUST RECENTLY FILED HER REC, HER RESIGNATION TO RUN FOR COUNSEL. 
          ONE IN INTERESTING ASPECT OF 2022 WAS EITHER THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE BECOME MORE CIVICALLY ACTIVE FOLLOWING THE PANDEMIC, OR OUR CASES HAVE BECOME MORE TECHNICALLY CHALLENGING, THUS OFFERING OUR RESIDENTS A SERIES OF MUST SEE EVENTS. 
          I PREFER TO THINK IT'S BOTH , BUT EITHER WAY, RESIDENT PARTICIPATION WAS ACTUALLY NOTICEABLY UP THIS YEAR UP LAST YEAR, AND IT IS BILLED OVER INTO THIS YEAR, AND IT CONTINUES. 
          BUT REGARDLESS OF THE REASONS THAT OUR CITIZENS ARE TURNING OUT, IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING TO SEE THEM ALL THERE. 
          AND SPEAKING OF SOME OF THOSE MORE TECHNICALLY CHALLENGING EVENTS OF LAST YEAR INCLUDE REVIEWING AND TAKING ACTION ON A MIDWAY SOUTH SPECIAL AREA STUDY, WHICH INCLUDED SILVER REZONINGS AS WELL AS THE COBALT HOMES, TOWN HOMES, AND THE OMNI TREEHOUSE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND ADDITIONALLY, WHILE A VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY WAY TENDS TO BE A PERENNIAL AGENDA ITEM, THIS PAST YEAR, WE SAW SEVERAL COMPLEX REUSE AND INFILL PROJECTS LEADING TO NEW RESTAURANT ENTERTAINMENT OFFICE AND RETAIL SPACE IN THE CENTER. 
          MORE DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THESE, SYNC OF THESE SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS. 
          AND SOME OTHERS CAN BE FOUND ON THE THIRD PAGE OF THE PACKAGE. 
          UNDER THE HEADING NOTABLE PROJECTS AND DEVELOPMENT TRENDS. 
          BUT EVEN WITH THESE MORE CHALLENGING CASES, COMMISSIONERS WERE UP FOR THE TASKS DEMONSTRATED BY THEIR VERY STRONG MEETING ATTENDANCE IN 2022 WITH ONLY FOUR ABSENCES ACCRUED FOR THE YEAR. 
          YOU CAN REFER TO THE TABLE TITLED MEDIAN ATTENDANCE 2022, WHICH IS ON THE FOURTH PAGE FOR DETAILED ATTENDANCE RECORDS FOR EACH COMMISSIONER. 
          YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS TABLE, A NUMBER OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD PER ATTENDANCE DURING THEIR TENURE IN THE COMMISSION IN 2022. 
          ROBERT CATLAN, JULIE BRANSON, NANCY CRAIG, AND MYSELF. 
          NOW LET'S GET BACK INTO THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TURN BACK TO THE TABLE ON THE SECOND PAGE. 
          AND THERE, UNDER THE HEADING 2022 CASE SUMMARY, YOU'LL SEE REVIEWED 13 REZONING AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN REQUEST 12 SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUESTS, EIGHT PLAT AND ONE LONG RANGE PLANNING POLICY, WHICH IS THE MIDWAY SOUTH SPECIAL AREA STUDY. 
          SOME OF YOU HERE TONIGHT MAY RECALL THAT I APPEARED HERE LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME AND STATED THAT 2021 WITNESSED THE HEAVIEST DEVELOPMENT OF DRIVEN WORKLOAD OVER ANY OF THE PREVIOUS FIVE YEARS. 
          I FURTHER STATED THAT OVERALL THE COMMISSION EXPERIENCED AN INCREASED WORKLOAD THAT WAS MORE REFLECTIVE PRE PANDEMIC CONDITIONS. 
          WHO KNEW I'D BE SO WRONG? THE TOTAL OVERALL 34 CASES WE REVIEWED IN 2022 REFLECTS A 36% INCREASE FROM THE THE 2021 CASELOAD. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS CAN LARGELY BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE INCREASED REDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY WEST OF MIDWAY, MIDWAY ROAD AND VILLAGE ON PARKWAY. 
          AND WHILE I MAY BE BIASED IN THINKING THAT THE DEDICATION OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSIONERS CONTRIBUTED SOMEWHAT TO THESE ACHIEVEMENTS, THE REAL HEROES HERE ARE THE HARDWORKING STAFF, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND PLANNING DEVELOPMENT ON BEHALF OF 
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ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, WE THANK YOU. 
          NOTWITHSTANDING, THOUGH MY OWN PERSONAL BAROMETER OF OUR WORKLOAD IS MORE, IS THE MORE TIME CONSUMING AND DIFFICULT S U P AND REZONING CASES THAT WE REVIEW. 
          AND IN 2022, WE EXCEEDED WHAT I ONCE THOUGHT WAS AN INSURMOUNTABLE NUMBER OF, OF S U P AND REZONING CASES THAT WE EXPERIENCED IN 2021. 
          WE BEAT THOSE IN 20 22, 25 TO 24, AND THAT EXCLUDES THE EXTRA, UH, SPECIAL STUDY THAT WAS PERFORMED. 
          THIS ADDITIONAL AND SOME MORE PROFOUND ACHIEVEMENT IS EVIDENT IN THE A COMPANY CHART TITLED PROJECT REVIEW HISTORY PROVIDED ON THE FIFTH PAGE OF THE REPORT. 
          AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO LOVE MAPS, LAST PAGE OF THE REPORT IS A MAP OF ADDISON ENTITLED PROJECT MAP 2022 CASES WITH A DEPICTION OF WHERE ALL OF VARIOUS CASES REVIEWED 22 LOCATED. 
          AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE FAIRLY EQUALLY SPREAD OUT ON THE EAST AND WEST OF THE SOUTHERN SECTOR. 
          THE PNC COMMISSIONERS DEVELOPED IN CONJUNCTION WITH KEN AND LESLIE. 
          THREE GOALS FOR 2023. 
          SO IF YOU COULD TURN BACK TO THE THIRD PAGE UNDER THE SECTION COMMISSION GOALS FOR 2023. 
          I'LL GO OVER THESE IN LIGHT OF THE UPCOMING T OD AREA. 
          AND ITS EMPHASIS ON WALKABILITY THE COMMISSIONER'S FAIL IS PRUDENT, NOT ONLY IN THE T O D AREA, BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT ADDISON, THAT THERE BE AN INCREASED EMPHASIS ON PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND COMFORT, PARTICULARLY IN CROSSWALKS IN THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS AND IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANNING, POSSIBLY POLICY AND CONSTRUCTION. 
          SECOND, PARKING IS A TOPIC THAT COMES UP OFTEN, WHETHER IT BE FOR RETAIL OR TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE CONTINUED REVIEW OF THE TOWN'S PARKING AND SIGN STANDARDS TO SUPPORT MORE EFFICIENT PARKING DESIGN AND OR WAYFINDING, AND TO REQUIRE AND OR INCENTIVIZE PROVISION OF FEATURES SUCH AS EV CHARGING STATIONS, RIDE SHARE ZONES, BICYCLE PARKING AND WAYFINDING SIGNAGE. 
          AND FINALLY, SCENE DEVELOPMENTS IN PERSON CAN BE AN EYE-OPENING EXPERIENCE, MUCH LIKE WHAT OUR CITIZENS ACADEMY PARTICIPANTS ALWAYS EXPERIENCE. 
          ADDITIONALLY, IT'S ALSO IMPERATIVE THAT COMMISSIONERS CAN RESEARCH PAST CASES TO AUGMENT THAT PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH PAST PRECEDENTS. 
          SO WE'VE ASKED THE DEVELOPMENT STAFF TO CONDUCT A DEVELOPMENT TOUR WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS TO CREATE A DIGITAL INVENTORY OF COMMISSION ACTIONS. 
          THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AS WELL AS YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT AS WE BEGIN THE PLAY AND ZONING COMMISSION 2023. 
          THANK I LIKE THAT PICTURE THAT TELLS A LOT, UH, HOW YOU COVER ALL MY PLAN. 
          THAT'S VILLAS OF FURY. 
          . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, TOM. 
          ITEM NUMBER 
          [5.  Present and Discuss the Format for the Town Meeting on April 3, 2023.]
FIVE, PRESENT. 
          DISCUSS THE FORMAT FOR THE TIME MEETING. 
          UH, APRIL THE THIRD, 2023. 
          MAYOR AND COUNSEL. 
          I'M MARY ROSEN, PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, AND I HAVE JUST PASSED OUT TO YOU SOME POSSIBLE TOPICS FOR THE, UH, APRIL 3RD TOWN MEETING. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS AT THE CONFERENCE CENTER, WE CONFERENCE CENTER, UM, THIS MEETING. 
          SO I WANTED TO JUST OFFER THESE SUGGESTIONS UP AND, AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER TOPICS THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS. 
          WHAT DAY IS IT? APRIL 3RD. 
          IT'S A MONDAY. 
          I'M GONNA HAVE TO, I KNOW I TAKE IT. 
          THE FIRST FIRST BULLET PART. 
           . 
          THE DATE CHANGED THE, THE SPRING IS THE DATE OPEN? CATHERINE, NOT THE AIRPORT. 
          UH, SURE. 
          YEAH, WE'RE DOING A CONFERENCE CENTER. 
          THE DATE IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. 
          IF IT'S TRUE, IF THAT DATE DOESN'T WORK, ALL THE CARD COUNCIL MEMBER DATE IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. 
          IF WELL, NO. 
          YEAH, THE THE I'M NOT GONNA BE IN TOWN, BUT THAT'S FINE. 
          I CAN DO THE VIDEO. 
          UH, YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO MARY, I'D LIKE THE 70, THE CELEBRATING 70 YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          NICE. 
          AIRPORT. 
          SPECIAL EVENTS. 
          I LIKE THE AIRPORT. 
          THANK YOU. 
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WHAT'S THE GRANT FUNDED SERVICES FOR RESIDENTS? UM, THAT I JUST THOUGHT WE COULD SHARE SOME OF THE, THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE GIVE FUNDING TO, SO RESIDENTS KNOW, UM, WHAT SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE, METROCREST SERVICES WOVEN, UM, THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE GIVE. 
          THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          SO YOU 70 YEARS? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          I CAN DO THE MIDWAY ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATE. 
          GQ, GQ, UH, UH, SILVER. 
          TOM, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? I THINK HE'S DOING THE GRANT. 
          WHAT'S, WHAT'S LEFT? COMPREHENSIVE. 
          COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          YOU DOING? 70 YEARS. 
          SO SPECIAL EVENTS I GET SPECIAL ABOUT. 
          LOOK AT THAT LAST TIME. 
          RAN PLANE DOES TOPICS AND SEVEN COUNT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO COVER, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ALL. 
          I THINK WE JUST GET, I THINK COMPREHENSIVE HAND IS IMPORTANT TO THEN TAKE IT. 
          YOU CAN DO TWO. 
          TAKE IT, BROTHER. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          IT'S EASY TO SAY. 
          I'LL TAKE YOU. 
          THAT'S TOO FREE. 
          SOMETHING ELSE I NEED TO DO. 
          THE MIDWAY ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATE IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS. 
          SO THEY'RE CAN DO THIS. 
          I MEAN, WE A ROAD DEAL, WON'T WE HAVE, I'M SURE THERE'LL BE A VIDEO ON THAT. 
          WE HAVEN'T DONE IT YET, BUT MAYBE IF THERE IS WELLWAYS BE IT'S, I'M SAYING IF WE JUST HANDLE THAT WITH THE VIDEO, I MEAN, I LIKE PERSONALLY OUR THINGS. 
          I THINK WE, WE RAMBLE ON TOO MUCH SOMETIMES. 
          SOME YOU, NOT ME , BUT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED IN CHAIRS. 
          BUT I'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, IT WAS KINDA INTERESTING. 
          I WENT, REMEMBER GOING TO A RICHARDSON CITY, LIKE TOWN HALL, I MEAN, KIND OF THE SAME THING. 
          TOWN HALL MEETING OR WHATEVER YEARS AGO. 
          AND EVERY, ALL OF THEIR STUFF WAS LIKE LITTLE VIDEO AND IT, WHAT THEY DID THAT'S NOT TRUE. 
          THEY DID LIKE A VIDEO AND THEN DIDN'T HAVE A SPEAKER. 
          THEY KIND OF BROKE IT UP SO IT WASN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE DANCE SORT OF. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S SORT OF, YOU KNOW, SO THEY KIND OF MIX IT UP. 
          SO MAYBE YOU CAN DO, MAYBE MIDWAY ROAD IS JUST THE VIDEO VIDEO THEY'RE GONNA DO. 
          AND THEN YOU DO THE COMP PLAN OVERVIEW. 
          IF YOU DON'T WANNA DO TWO THINGS. 
          YEAH, I CAN DO THE COMP PLAN OVERVIEW. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WAY, YEAH, THE MIDWAY ROAD, BASICALLY JUST A VIDEO. 
          SO THAT SHOWS WHERE WE ARE NOW AND YEAH. 
          SO WHO'S GOING TO, UH, BRING IT UP? HUH? SO WHO'S GONNA INTRO IT? YEAH, ME, MAYOR. 
          OKAY. 
          LET ME DO, WELCOME AND TALK ABOUT THE BOND PROJECT. 
          AND THEN BEFORE I INTRODUCE THE NEXT SPEAKER, I JUST SAY, UH, YEAH, TAKE A LOOK. 
          THE VIDEO OF MIDWAY ROAD, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION UPDATE. 
          YEAH. 
          SOUNDS GREAT. 
          HOW'S THAT? YEP. 
          MARIA, ARE YOU GOOD WITH DOING A VIDEO FOR MIDWAY ROAD? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          ON THE DATES, GOOD. 
          MONDAY AND THURSDAY. 
          YEAH, THAT'S FINE. 
          I WON'T, I WON'T BE HERE. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          YOU SHOULD DO YOUR VIDEO OUT HERE. 
          DO VIDEO, MARY, WE'LL GIVE YOU A, UH, TER. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YOU RETAKE. 
          GIMME A SCRIPT. 
          YEAH. 
          RETAKES ON YOUR VIDEO. 
          ALL RIGHT, PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NICE. 
          ALRIGHT, 
          [6.  Present and Discuss the DART Service Area City Distribution. ]
ITEM SIX, PRESENT, DISCUSS THE DOOR SERVICE AREA, CITY DISTRIBUTION, DISTRIBUTION. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE 4.41 MILLION, SO WE HAVE TO DO A PROJECT. 
          YES, STEVEN. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. 
          STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. 
          AND THIS SHOULD BE PRETTY SIMPLE SINCE THEY DO, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, WANT TO GIVE US 4.4 MILLION. 
          SO  DO SOME TYPE OF PROJECT. 
          SO, UH, SO THIS IS RELATED TO, UH, DARK PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND IMPROVES FUNDING. 
          SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS, AS WE ALL ARE AWARE, YOU KNOW, WHEN COVID HIT, ONE OF THE HARDEST, UH, INDUSTRIES THAT WAS HIT WAS MASS TRANSIT OR PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEMS. UH, DART WAS NO EXCEPTION TO THAT. 
          UH, THERE CAME WITH THAT IN, UH, A BIG INFLUX OF FEDERAL MONEY FROM 
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THE CARES ACT, FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. 
          UH, OVERALL, UH, THROUGHOUT THOSE TWO PLANS, ABOUT 55 BILLION WENT INTO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, UH, MASS TRANSIT AUTHORITIES, UH, TO BASICALLY, UH, MAKE SURE THEY DIDN'T FAIL AND, AND KEEP THEM GOING WHILE, UH, WHILE WE WERE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE NOT TO GATHER IN ENCLOSED SPACES. 
          UH, SO WITH THAT SAID, UH, FROM THAT FUNDING AND ALSO, UH, SALES TAX AS WE KNOW, WE CONSERVATIVELY BUDGETED THAT. 
          AND ADDISON DART DID THE SAME THING THROUGHOUT THEIR, UH, BUDGET. 
          AND WE GREATLY EXCEEDED THOSE, UH, BUDGET PROJECTIONS. 
          UH, DART DID AS WELL. 
          SO, UH, THO THE COMBINATION OF, OF THAT FEDERAL FUNDING AND THE SALES TAX BEING, UH, STRONGER THAN WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED, UH, THEIR BOARD HAD APPROVED THE ALLOCATION IN THEIR LATEST BUDGET, UH, OF 234 MILLION TO THE 13, UH, DART SERVICE AREA, CITIES, UH, FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM OR COMPLIMENTARY TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. 
          UH, SO ADDISON'S ALLOCATION, UH, FROM THOSE FUNDS IS $4,411,000. 
          UH, THEY BASE THE ALLOCATION ON SALES TAX GENERATED, UH, FOR DART DURING, UH, FISCAL YEAR'S 2021 AND 2022 FOR POPULATION, WHICHEVER METHOD, UH, GENERATED THE HIGHEST ALLOCATION FOR EACH CITY. 
          I I ADDED SOMETHING IN HERE. 
          I WAS APPROACHED BY, UH, BY DATA BOARD, UH, UH, THE FORMER MAYOR OF RICHARDSON REPRESENTING US. 
          SO IT WAS TALKING ABOUT GARLAND DON'T AGREE WITH THE SALES TAX. 
          SINCE THEY HAVE MORE POPULATION, THEY HAVE LESS SALES TAX, SO THEY WANT TO INSIST, WANT TO TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF THE POPULATION BENEFIT TO THEM. 
          THEN I SAID, NO, WE ARE BENEFITING FROM SALES TAX. 
          SO WHY DON'T YOU ASK THEM TO FIGURE IT OUT IF BASED ON SALES TAX, WE CAN RECEIVE HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, 4.41, IF BASED ON POPULATION, WE CAN ONLY RECEIVE LESS THAN 2 MILLION. 
          OKAY? AND I SAID THAT IF WE CAN RECEIVE MORE FROM SALES TAX, WE WANT MORE THAN IF THEY CAN RECEIVE MORE BASED ON POPULATION, LET GO TO POPULATION. 
          SO THERE'S A GAP. 
          SO THE GAP WAS PICKED UP BY NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT. 
          SO THEY ARE REALLY NICE. 
          SO THEY PICK UP THE GAP, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MILLION, UH, IT WAS AROUND 18 OR $19 MILLION MILLION. 
          SO THEY PICK UP THE GAP. 
          SO IN OTHER WORDS, EVERYBODY'S HAPPY. 
          SO CERTAIN MEMBER CITIES, EVERYBODY'S HAPPY, EVERYBODY GET THE MAXIMUM THEY CAN GET. 
          SO THAT'S, IT WAS A GOOD DEBATE. 
          SO IT, IT WAS DEFINITELY GOOD. 
          SO, TOOK MY RECOMMENDATIONS, I DON'T KNOW, BY ACCIDENT OR THEY, THEY FOUGHT FOR A WHILE, BUT THEY FOUGHT FOR A WHILE. 
          THEY FOUGHT FOR A WHILE, BUT THERE IS A GOOD RESULT, YOU KNOW, EARN $2.6 MILLION MORE. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN, UH, THERE IS A, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, UH, LATER IN THE, UH, IN THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, UH, UH, SECTION. 
          AND THAT, UH, WAS APPROVED BY DART BACK ON NOVEMBER 15TH. 
          UH, SO AS PART OF THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH DART, UH, THE TOWN MUST BE IN GOOD STANDING WITH DART. 
          THAT BASICALLY MEANS THAT WE DON'T OWE THEM ANY, ANY MONEY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          UH, THE TOWN HAS, HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND IS CURRENTLY IN GOOD STANDING WITH DART. 
          UH, WE WOULD WORK COLLABORATIVE COLLABORATIVELY WITH DART, UH, TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS, WHICH WE ALWAYS HAVE. 
          UH, AND THEN JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PROJECT THAT THE TOWN IS RESPONSIBLE TO CONSTRUCT, WE, UH, WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE TO IMPLEMENT AND OPERATE THE PROJECT AND THEN ALSO, UH, OBTAIN AND MAINTAIN ADEQUATE INSURANCE ON THAT PROJECT. 
          UH, SO WHAT KIND OF PROJECTS ARE ELIGIBLE? SO IT'S REALLY, REALLY TWO BUCKETS. 
          ONE WITH ONE IS, UH, SUPPORTING DART'S PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, WHICH THAT BASICALLY MEANS THAT WE TAKE THE MONEY AND WE GIVE IT RIGHT BACK TO THEM TO, TO USE ON A PROJECT OF THEIR CHOOSING, UM, FOR ONE OF THEIR PROJECTS. 
          SO, UH, THE OTHER, UH, GROUP IS COMPLIMENTARY TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. 
          AND SOME EXAMPLES THAT WERE GIVEN ARE, WERE SOMETHING LIKE, UH, TRANSPORTATION SERVICES FOR ELDERLY OR DISABLED PEOPLE, MEDICAL TRANSPORTATION MODIFYING STREETS TO ACCOMMODATE THE, UH, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. 
          AND THEN REALLY, REALLY BROADEN OPEN ANY OTHER, UH, SERVICE THAT COMPLEMENTS THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, INCLUDING PROVIDING PARKING GARAGES. 
          SO, AS WE ALL KNOW THAT THE TOWN HAS, UH, SOME POTENTIAL COMMITMENT ON A PARKING GARAGE AT THE, UH, UH, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO, SO THIS, THESE FUNDS COULD BE USED FOR THAT. 
          AND WE DID CONSIDER THAT IN A, IN A RECOMMENDATION AS WELL. 
          UH, SO AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE FOR OBTAINING THESE FUNDS AND USING THEM, UH, WE WOULD NEED TO SUBMIT ALL OF OUR PROPOSED PROJECTS BY THE END OF, UH, THIS FISCAL OR THIS CALENDAR YEAR, UH, BEFORE JANUARY 1ST, 2024. 
          UH, WE MUST AWARD 
          [02:20:01]
CONTRACTS BY THE END OF FEBRUARY, 2025. 
          UH, PROJECTS WOULD NEED TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE BY THE END OF JANUARY, 2026. 
          AND WE WOULD NEED TO SUBMIT OUR FINAL REQUEST FOR FUNDS BY THE END OF APRIL, 2026. 
          AND THEN THE, THE WAY THAT THE DISBURSEMENT OF FUNDS WILL WORK IS BASICALLY TWO, TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          IF THE PROJECT'S UNDER $250,000, UH, WHEN, WHEN WE PRESENT THAT PROJECT TO DARTON, THEY APPROVED, THEY'LL GIVE US 50% OF THE FUNDS UPFRONT, AND THEN THE REMAINING 50% WOULD BE ON A REMA UH, REIMBURSEMENT BASIS, UH, PROJECTS OVER 250,000. 
          WHEN THEY APPROVE THAT PROJECT, THEY'LL GIVE US 10%, UH, UPFRONT, THEN 40% WHEN WE GIVE A NOTICE TO PROCEED TO THE CONTRACTOR. 
          AND THEN THE REMAINING 50% WOULD BE ON A REIMBURSEMENT BASIS. 
          SO THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO UTILIZE THE 4 MILLION, UH, $411,000 FOR TRAIL SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WEREN'T ON COUNCIL BACK, UH, ON MAY 25TH, 2021. 
          UH, BUT IN THAT MEETING, THERE WAS A CITY-WISE TRAILS, UH, MASTER PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED. 
          AND, UH, AS, AS THAT WAS BEING ADOPTED, I WAS GETTING A LOT OF LOOKS ABOUT, UH, HOW IS, HOW ARE WE GONNA PAY FOR THIS? SO, UM, SO , SO THI THIS IS A GOOD STEP IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          SO, UH, PHASE ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE APPROXIMATELY 24 MILLION. 
          ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF MILLION OF THOSE, UH, PROJECTS ARE FUNDED THROUGH THE 2019 BRO BOND PROGRAM THROUGH, UH, THOSE VARIOUS STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT ARE, ARE WITHIN THAT BOND PROGRAM. 
          UH, SO THE FORMER RECOMMENDED PROJECTS, UH, TO UTILIZE THE, THE, THESE FUNDS ARE, UH, ONE, THE COTTON BELT, UH, TRAIL AMENITIES, UH, APPROXIMATELY 1 MILLION THAT'S, UH, LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING, UH, SIGNAGE ALONG THE COTTON BELT TRAIL, UH, EXTENDING THE REDDING TRAIL TO MIDWAY ROAD. 
          THAT IS AN APPROXIMATE COST OF ABOUT $500,000. 
          AND THEN BELTWAY BY LANE AND GREEN SPACE. 
          UH, THE COUNCIL RECEIVED AN UPDATE OR A PRESENTATION REGARDING THAT PROJECT OF THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. 
          UH, THAT PROJECT COST IS APPROXIMATELY ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, AND THEN WEST GROVE BY LANES AT A, AT AN APPROXIMATE COST OF ONE AND A HALF MILLION AS WELL. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          NO COMMENT. 
          YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME WE RECEIVE SO MUCH FUNDING, WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY . 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE CAN'T USE THAT AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR A PARKING GARAGE TONGUE IN CHEEK. 
          ORLANDO'S NOT HERE. 
          FOR THE NON PARTICIPATING DART CITIES, I'D LIKE TO USE IT FOR OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR ALL THOSE YEARS. 
          SORRY, SAY IT. 
          WE ALREADY PAID IT FOR HOW MUCH? 300 SOME MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT NOW. 
          IT'S LIKE, IT'S APPROACHING 300 BILLION, I BELIEVE. 
          I THINK LAST TIME I LOOKED IT WAS CLOSE TO 270 0 TO HAVE A 4.41 , TWO 70. 
          I WOULD'VE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT I THINK LAST TIME I LOOKED IT WAS AROUND 2 75. 
          SO I WILL SAY, AND I THINK I MENTIONED THAT WHEN, WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POPULATION VERSUS SALES TAX GENERATED COMMENT. 
          SO, SO THEY'RE VERY INTELLIGENT. 
          SO MEN ARE GOODEST CHOICE. 
           ON THE, UH, THE ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION LATER. 
          IT DOES GIVE ME A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY WITH THE ACTUAL I L A AS IT GOES FORWARD. 
          THERE'S A NUMBER OF CITIES THAT ARE STILL HAVING NEGOTI THAT ARE PUSHING BACK ON DART ON SOME LANGUAGE WITHIN THE ILA, TO BE HONEST, WE'RE NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT IT. 
          WE'RE, UM, READY TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT PROJECT SURE THAT EACH CITY SIGNS THE SAME DOCUMENT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          SO IT DOES GIMME A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY TO ADJUST IF, IF NEED AS WE GO FORWARD. 
          BUT HOPE WE FEEL CONFIDENT WITH THE I ILA IT STANDS TO BE HONEST. 
          WE'RE JUST READY TO GET STARTED ON THIS PROJECT. 
          DAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YEP. 
          UH, ABOUT, UH, THE, THE SERVICES THAT WE, THIS, THESE MONIES CAN GO TO, WE'RE GONNA BE CHALLENGED AS A TOWN TO, UH, PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF UPGRADE TO SECURITY AROUND THE DART STATION. 
          DOES THIS, IS ANY OF THIS MONEY AVAILABLE FOR, UH, THAT CONSIDERATION? THAT PROBABLY WILL BE A DIFFERENT ISSUES. 
          SO CURRENTLY, AND MOST STATIONS BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS, UH, MANAGED BY DART POLICE. 
          SO MAYBE WE NEED TO WALK OUT OF SOME PROGRAM IN THE FUTURE AND THEN WE'D BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR EDISON POLICE INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF JUST DART POLICE. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS POTENTIALLY COULD BE USED FOR THAT. 
          I MEAN, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE DEFINITELY TO PUSH DART TO, TO, TO USE THAT WITH WHAT WE'RE THEY'RE ALREADY GETTING FROM, FROM US. 
          UM, BUT THAT WOULD, THESE FUNDS COULD CERTAINLY BE USED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT CAN YOU IDENTIFY THE WEST GROVE BIKE LINES FOR US? I WILL DEFER TO JANET TOO. 
          SURE. 
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JANET TIAL, DIRECTOR OF PARK AND RECREATION, UM, ON THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN, THE WEST GROVE BIKE LANES BEGIN AT THEM GOING LIKE TRINITY MILLS, AND THEN THEY GO SOUTH AND THEY TERMINATE AT THE DALLAS TOLL LAKE. 
          AND WE BEAT BIKE LANES. 
          WEST GROVE GOES EAST WEST, SORRY. 
          WEST GROVE GOES FROM TRINITY MILLS DOWN. 
          OH, IT CURVES BY THE AIRPORT. 
          YEP. 
          SO IT WOULD GO BY THE AIRPORT, IT WOULD GO BY THE SERVICE CENTER, THE AIRPORT, IT'S A TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK. 
          SO IT'S ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THEN IT WOULD CROSS OVER ADDISON ROAD, GO PAST QUOIN AND TERMINATE AT TOOL. 
          BUT THERE IS A BIKE CONNECTION IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          WHEN YOU GET TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HALLWAY, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH THAT'S USED? THAT'S SUCH AN INDUSTRIAL AREA THROUGH THERE? SURE. 
          UM, WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN PROCESS, TECHO ACTUALLY ACQUIRED A LOT OF DATA FROM STRAVA, WHICH IS A, UM, A USER PLATFORM FOR CYCLIST. 
          AND THEY TOOK THAT DATA AND APPLIED AN ALA ALGORITHM TO IT, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO CREATE HEAT MAPS. 
          AND THOSE HEAT MAPS LOOKED AT, DO WE HAVE RECREATIONAL USERS AND DO WE HAVE COMMUTER USERS? AND THE HEAT MAP THAT WAS CREATED BY STRAVA ACTUALLY INDICATED THAT THAT IS A HUGE PATH FOR COMMUTERS THAT COME THROUGH ADDISON THAT ARE WORKING IN ADDISON OR GOING OUT OF ADDISON TO JOBS. 
          YOU, NICK? MM-HMM. 
          . 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, GETTING BACK TO THE ABILITY TO USE SOME OF THESE MONIES FOR THE POLICE, FIRE SAFETY, FIRE SAFETY, I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO GET SOME FLEXIBILITY IN HERE SO THAT WE CAN PUT, SOME OF YOU HEARD TONIGHT THAT THERE WERE SOME POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WOULD COME ALONG WITH INFORMING THE PUBLIC A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          YES. 
          UH, SAFETY CONCERNS. 
          AND WE KNOW THAT THESE ARE COMING DOWN THE TRACK, SO TO SPEAK, WITH, WITH THE T O D. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT ON THAT. 
          AND, UM, PERHAPS, AND WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR HERE? YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOME RECOMMENDATION, SOME DIRECTION? WELL, TO BE HONEST, CERTAINLY IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE READY TO GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS, SAY GO FOR IT, WE'LL BRING A BUDGET AMENDMENT FORWARD. 
          BUT THIS IS ALSO A CERTAIN, IT'S ALSO A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS FACTOR IN THE BUDGET PROCESS AS WE ALLOCATE FUNDS. 
          SO, UM, A GOOD BUDGET DISCUSSION AS WE BRING THESE BACK, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION CAUSE I'LL BE LONG GONE. 
          UM, SO I'D RECOMMEND THAT, LIKE, THAT WE TALK WITH DART AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THEM. 
          THEY BRING FUNDS FOR POLICING OTHER, OTHER PROPERTIES. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I THINK ADDISON WOULD DO MUCH BETTER. 
          IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DID WITH THE BUSH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHERE WE'VE MAINTAINED THE GROUNDS OVER, THERE'S PART OF AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT IN EXCHANGE FOR MONEY. 
          SO IF THEY'RE GONNA SPEND SOME MONEY ANYWAY, I SAY, LET'S, LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION FIRST AND SEE IF, YOU KNOW, THAT MONEY CAN'T BE U BE UTILIZED TO HIRE WHATEVER, TWO MORE POLICE OFFICERS, SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER, I DON'T KNOW, A STATION THERE, SOMETHING THERE. 
          BECAUSE I AGREE THAT THERE'S GONNA NEED TO BE SOMETHING THERE. 
          AND I THINK I'D RATHER HAVE US DO IT THAN, AND DON'T AND DON'T PAY FOR IT. 
          DON'T PAY FOR AS MUCH AS THEY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THE STATION, BUT ALSO ON THE TREND. 
          YOU KNOW, THE THE OTHER THING STATION YOU MAY HAVE HOMELESS, IT INCLUDE IN DIFFERENT TREND CENTERS. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT. 
          SO. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHY WE SHOULD, THAT'S WHY I THINK THE TOWN SHOULD TAKE, TAKE THAT LONG AND  THAT'S HAVE SOME TIME BECAUSE WHAT WHAT YOU'RE GONNA FIND OUT IS THEY'RE GONNA SAY, WE SPEND X AMOUNT ON, ON SAFETY PER STATION. 
          THEY CAN'T GO OVER THAT OR ABOVE IT. 
          IT'S WHAT WE FOUND OUT WITH THE SCHOOLS. 
          THEY ONLY SPEND THIS MUCH ON THIS. 
          BUT AT THE TIME, THE TOWN SAID, BUT WE WANTED, WE WANT IRRIGATION. 
          THEY DIDN'T PUT IRRIGATION IN SCHOOLS. 
          WE WANT IRRIGATION SYSTEM. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU GO BY OUR SCHOOL AND IT LOOKS LIKE A PRIVATE SCHOOL, BUT IT'S D A S STEVE, IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. 
          EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING IT ON, WE'RE DOING IT THE ADDISON WAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK WE CAN DO THE SAME THING. 
          YEAH, NO, THOMAS SYLVIA LIAISON ON THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT HE PUT A LOT OF CONTRIBUTION TO IT. 
          HE DID. 
          SO THERE'S, THIS IS INFORMATION, RIGHT? SO THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA, IT'S REALLY JUST TO ACCEPT THE MONEY FROM DAR AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE HOW WE SPEND IT, BUT WE KNOW WHAT SOME OF THE PARAMETERS ARE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YOUR SLIDE SEVEN IS NOT FIXED. 
          IT'S JUST A, AN EXAMPLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY MORE QUESTION FOR STEVEN 
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ON THIS SIDE HERE NOW, ITEM 
          [7.  Present and Discuss the Finance Department Quarterly Financial Report of the Town of Addison for the Fiscal Year 2023 First Quarter Ended December 31, 2022.]
SEVEN PRESENT, DISCUSS THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT OF THE TOWN OF EDISON FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2023. 
          FIRST QUARTER ENDED DECEMBER 31ST, 2022. 
          STEPHEN, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          COUNSEL, UH, STEVEN GLICKMAN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, AND THIS IS THE QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE FIRST, UH, QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 2023. 
          THIS REPORT COVERS, UH, ACTIVITY FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2022 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2022. 
          UH, SO LOOKING AT OUR REVENUE SOURCES, ALL OF OUR REVENUE SOURCES ARE TRENDING, UH, POSITIVE COMPARED TO THE BUDGET. 
          UM, NOTHING, UH, OF NOTE TO REPORT HERE. 
          UH, EVERYTHING IS, UH, GREEN AND, AND LOOKING PRETTY GOOD SO FAR. 
          UH, ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE FOR OUR MAJOR FUNDS, AGAIN, UH, 25%, UH, OF THE WAY THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR, UH, ALL OF OUR, UH, FUNDS ARE BELOW, UH, 25%. 
          UH, UH, THEIR BUDGET SPENT SO FAR. 
          SO TRENDING, UH, GOOD IN THAT REGARD. 
          UH, PERSONNEL INFORMATION, THERE WERE EIGHT, UH, SEPARATIONS, UH, IN THE FIRST QUARTER, AND THEN 10 NEW HIRES, UH, AS WELL IN THE FIRST QUARTER. 
          UH, ECONOMIC INDICATORS, UH, STARTING UP AT THE TOP LEFT, UH, UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS. 
          DFW YOU CAN SEE VERY LOW UNEMPLOYMENT STILL. 
          UM, HOTEL REVENUE PER AVAILABLE ROOM. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE HOW WE'VE TRENDED, UH, SINCE OCTOBER OF 2021, UH, THROUGH DECEMBER OF 2022, UH, TO THE RIGHT OF THAT HOTEL STATISTICS, YOU CAN SEE, UH, ROOM RATE REVENUE PER AVAILABLE ROOM AND OCCUPANCY. 
          UH, THE DECEMBER THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE A PRETTY SHARP DECLINE, BUT THAT'S HISTORICALLY BEEN THE CASE FOR ADDISON. 
          AS THERE'S LESS BUSINESS TRAVEL IN DECEMBER. 
          UH, WE'VE SEEN SINCE ABOUT THE SECOND WEEK OF JANUARY THAT AGAIN, IT'S PICKED UP TO, TO WHERE IT WAS IN, UH, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER. 
          UH, GOING, UH, DOWN OCCUPANCY INDICATORS, OFFICE OCCUPANCY IS UP 2.9%, UH, FROM THE SAME TIME A YEAR AGO. 
          UH, RETAIL OCCUPANCY IS UP 1.6% FROM THE SAME TIME A YEAR AGO. 
          AND THEN OUR HOTEL INDICATORS, UH, HOTEL OCCUPANCY, UH, AT 59.9%, A 7.2% INCREASE, UH, FROM ONE YEAR AGO. 
          AND THEN REVENUE PER AVAILABLE ROOM, UH, LARGE INCREASE AT 27.2%, UH, JUST UNDER $62, UH, PER ROOM. 
          UH, PERMITS AND VALUATION, YOU CAN SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT. 
          UH, 225 PERMITS, UH, ISSUED, UH, THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER. 
          UH, WHEN YOU ANNUALIZE THAT, UH, WE, WE'D BE ON TRACK, UH, FOR A NORMAL FISCAL YEAR COMPARED TO THE LAST THREE YEARS, AND THEN TO THE RIGHT OF THAT QUARTERLY PERMIT ACTIVITY YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          YOU CAN SEE, UH, PERMIT WISE, UH, THAT WE'RE FAIRLY STABLE, UH, OVER THE LAST, UH, COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT, THAT SLIDE. 
          SO IS RETAIL INCLUDES RESTAURANTS? YES, IT WOULD. 
          AND THEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES. 
          THERE'S EIGHT EXECUTED AGREEMENTS, UH, TOTAL, UH, INCENTIVES COMMITTED ABOUT 834,000. 
          UH, NONE HAVE BEEN PAID, UH, SO FAR. 
          UH, FOR FIRST QUARTER SALES TAX COMPARISON, YOU CAN SEE WE'VE HAD ABOUT A 10% DECREASE. 
          THERE WERE SEVERAL, UH, ADJUSTMENTS, UH, THAT NEGATIVELY AFFECTED US IN THE, UH, MONTHS OF, UH, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HOW WE COMPARE TO CARROLLTON FARMERS BRANCH IN RICHARDSON. 
          UH, AND THEN, UH, SAME, SAME TYPE OF DATA, UH, THREE YEAR PERIOD, UH, FISCAL YEAR 21, 22, AND THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF FISCAL YEAR 2023. 
          AND THEN THIS DATA COMPARED TO FISCAL YEAR 2022. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE WE'VE COLLECTED ABOUT 25 AND A HALF PERCENT OF OUR BUDGET SO FAR. 
          SO WE ARE STILL TRENDING FAVORABLY COMPARED TO BUDGET. 
          UH, BREAKDOWN OF SALES TAX BY EACH CATEGORY. 
          UH, AGAIN, UH, RETAIL AND, UH, ACCOMMODATIONS IN FOOD SERVICE ARE TWO BIG CATEGORIES. 
          UH, 21 AND 18%, UH, FOR EACH OF THOSE. 
          UH, LOOKING AT GENERAL FUND REVENUE, AGAIN, NOTHING OF NOTE, UH, OR CONCERN. 
          HERE. 
          WE'RE AT 25.8%, UH, OF REVENUE COLLECTED THROUGH 25% OF THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          UH, ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, UH, SAME THING. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE ALL TRENDING, UH, WITHIN BUDGET. 
          22.3% OF OUR BUDGET'S BEEN SPENT, UH, THROUGH 25% OF THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          UH, GOING ON TO THE HOTEL FUND. 
          UH, HOTEL TAX, WE'RE AT 26.1%, UH, OF COLLECTION. 
          SO WE'RE TRENDING TO, UH, BRING IN, UH, AT LEAST 5 MILLION HOPEFULLY, UH, WHICH WOULD, WOULD EXCEED OUR BUDGET OF 4.8 MILLION. 
          UH, SO OVERALL REVENUES AT 23.5%. 
          NOW, UH, THE REASON THAT'S BELOW 25 IS BECAUSE, UH, SPECIAL EVENTS THAT OCCUR, UH, LATER IN FISCAL YEAR. 
          UH, THEN WE HAVE OUR, OUR EXPENDITURES AT 14%. 
          SO TRENDING, UH, POSITIVE ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE. 
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AND THEN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND, 25.8% OF REVENUE HAS COME IN, AND THEN 16.9%, UH, OF OUR, UH, BUDGET HAS BEEN SPENT, UH, TO DATE. 
          SO BOTH FAVORABLE. 
          OUR AIRPORT FUND, UH, 26.3% OF THE REVENUE HAS BEEN, UH, RECEIVED, UH, THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER. 
          AND THEN ONLY 12.1% OF THE BUDGET HAS BEEN SPENT THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER. 
          AND THE UTILITY FUND, 25.9% OF THE REVENUE HAS BEEN, UH, UH, RECORDED THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER. 
          AND THEN, UH, EXPEND EXP EXPENSES ARE AT 21.8%. 
          SO BOTH FAVORABLE COMPARED TO BUDGET. 
          AND THEN THE STORMWATER UTILITY FUND, 27.2% OF OUR REVENUES BEEN COLLECTED. 
          AND, UH, JUST 9% OF THE BUDGET'S BEEN, UH, SPENT THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER. 
          AND THEN HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTIONS, YOU CAN SEE, UH, HOW WE'RE TRENDING, UH, OVER TIME. 
          UH, OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS, UH, WE'VE BEEN AT OR ABOVE, UH, ABOUT 1.2 MILLION FOR THE LAST THREE QUARTERS. 
          UH, SO AS LONG AS WE MAINTAIN THAT, I THINK WE'LL BE, UH, IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. 
          WE ARE SEEING POSITIVE TRENDS, UH, TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY, UH, ARE VERY HIGH OCCUPANCY. 
          UH, GENERALLY IN THE 75 OR 75 TO 80% OCCUPANCY RANGE, UH, WITH THOSE BUSINESS TRAVELERS. 
          UH, WE'VE SEEN, UH, ROOM RATES INCREASE PRETTY DRAMATICALLY. 
          UH, SO THAT MEANS THAT OUR REVENUE PER AVAILABLE ROOM, UH, ON SOME OF THOSE TUESDAYS AND, AND WEDNESDAYS ARE APPROACHING ABOUT A HUNDRED DOLLARS, UH, PER ROOM. 
          SO, WHICH IS, WHICH IS OUTSTANDING. 
          UH, AND THEN OUR INVESTMENT REPORT SUMMARY. 
          SO THE INTEREST REVENUE THAT WAS BROUGHT IN IN THE, UH, FIRST QUARTER, $616,000, UH, WHICH IS ABOUT 240,000 MORE, UH, THAN WAS BROUGHT IN IN THE PREVIOUS QUARTER. 
          UH, ABOUT A 64% INCREASE THAN THE WEIGHTED AVERAGE MATURITY, UH, OF OUR PORTFOLIO, 2.25% ABOUT A, UH, 57 BASIS POINT INCREASE, UH, FROM THE PREVIOUS QUARTER. 
          AND THEN ALL OF OUR INVESTMENTS WERE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH TOWN POLICY AND THE PUBLIC FUNDS INVESTMENT ACT. 
          I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          DO YOU ENJOY GIVING THIS REPORT EARLIER, ? YES. 
          , AND I WAS TOLD TO KEEP IT UNDER FIVE MINUTES. 
          YOU SEEM VERY, YOU SEEM VERY REFRESHED AND POSITIVE AND HAPPY. 
          UH, NO, THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING, UM, JUST IS EVERYTHING. 
          UH, COOL WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS YOU MENTIONED THERE WERE SOME ADJUSTMENTS IN NOVEMBER DECEMBER ON THE SALES TAX RATE NUMBER. 
          YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS HATE TO SEE A DECREASE IN OUR COMPETITORS SEE AN INCREASE AND YOU FEEL, YEAH, WELL, IT'S, SALES TAX IS SUCH A, A FUNNY THING BECAUSE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS SOMETIMES, OR SOMETIMES A PAYER WILL PAY IN THE WRONG PERIOD. 
          SO IT, IT'S HARD TO, TO NORMALIZE SALES TAX. 
          SO WHEN, WHEN I LOOK AT CURRENT PERIOD COLLECTIONS, UM, IF I GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE, AND SO FOR INSTANCE, UH, THE FIRST MONTH IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAD ABOUT A 3.3% INCREASE IN OCTOBER. 
          IF I LOOK AT JUST CURRENT COLLECTIONS, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN CLOSER TO AN 8% INCREASE. 
          UH, WHEN I LOOK AT NOVEMBER, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAD ABOUT 11.7% DECREASE. 
          IF I LOOK AT JUST CURRENT PERIOD COLLECTIONS, WITHOUT THOSE ADJUSTMENTS IN THERE, UH, IT WOULD'VE BEEN CLOSER TO ABOUT AN 8%, WHICH IS STILL NOT GREAT. 
          UM, WHEN I LOOK AT DECEMBER, WE HAD, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF LARGE ADJUSTMENTS IN DECEMBER. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT JUST CURRENT PERIOD COLLECTIONS, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN CLOSER TO A 9% I SEE. 
          INSTEAD OF 20%. 
          SO, UM, SO IT NOT GREAT, BUT WE'RE STILL TRENDING BEYOND BUDGET. 
          AND UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THOSE ADJUSTMENTS COME KIND OF, KIND OF SKEW IT WHEN YOU JUST LOOK MONTH TO MONTH KIND LIKE THAT. 
          IF WE HAVE MORE NEGATIVES OF THE NEXT QUARTER REPORT, IT WILL BE MORE CONCERNED AND RIGHT. 
          WE HAVING A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION ? YEAH. 
          NO, AND THIS IS, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST REPORT THAT I'VE SEEN IN A WHILE WITH ALL GREEN MM-HMM. 
           ON TRACK IN TERMS OF REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES IN EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY ACROSS THE BOARD UNDER PROMISE AND OVER-DELIVER. 
          . 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          IT'S GOOD TO SEE ALL THE GREEN, GREEN IS GOOD. 
          COVID BROUGHT DIFFERENT COLORS. 
          YES, IT DID. 
          DIFFERENT CRAFTS. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION ON SLIDE 13. 
          IT'S JUST, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          UM, SO IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'LL COME UP LATER IN THE YEAR WITH THE EXPENSES WITH THE AIRPORT THAT'S A TYPICAL SPIKE? WELL, SO, SO THE, THE THING ABOUT THAT, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AIRPORT AND ALSO THE STORM, UH, STORMWATER UTILITY FUND, UH, THE AIRPORT HAS 2.6 MILLION IN CASH FUNDED CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THEY HAVEN'T SPENT ANY OF 
          [02:40:01]
THAT YET. 
          OKAY. 
          SO PART OF THAT'S THE JIMMY DOOLITTLE RECONSTRUCTION. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THEY'RE DOING, UH, THE, UM, UH, THE FUEL FARM, UH, DESIGN. 
          SO, SO AS THERE'S EXPENDITURES THAT COME ON WITH THAT, THOSE WILL, THOSE ARE THEIR BIG EXPENDITURES AND THAT MAKES UP, YOU KNOW, ALMOST, UH, 35% OF THEIR TOTAL BUDGET. 
          SO WHEN THEY HAVEN'T SPENT ANY OF THAT SO FAR, IT, IT MAKES THAT, THAT BUG, THAT BUDGET SPEND LOOK REALLY LOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SAME THING ON THE STORMWATER SIDE. 
          THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, $2.8 MILLION BUDGETED FOR, UH, A, A LARGE DRAINAGE PROJECT AND THEY'VE ONLY SPENT $170,000 OF THAT SO FAR. 
          SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, DO WE HAVE THE TIMELINE FOR JIMMY DULE ROLE RECONSTRUCTION? UH, I DON'T BELIEVE WE DO YET. 
          YEAH. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          YOU KNOW WHY? SUCH A BEAUTIFUL ADMINISTRATION BUILDING USE CUSTOMS, THAT'S SUCH A LOUSY LITTLE ROAD. 
          YOU KNOW,  NOT ACCEPTABLE NEED TO BE DONE , IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T MATCH. 
          INTERESTED IN HOW THEY'RE GONNA FIX THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          INTERSECTION. 
          THEY'RE, YEAH. 
          THAT'S WONKY. 
          ALRIGHT, GREAT JOB. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU KNOW, ALWAYS LOVE TO HEAR WE HAVE MORE MONEY. 
          . 
          THANK YOU STEVEN. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, UH, OKAY, LET'S DO 
          [ Announcements and Acknowledgments Regarding Town and Council Events and Activities   	Board Member Recognitions 	 		Nancy Craig, Planning and Zoning Commission 		Stephanie Baim, Community Partners Bureau 	 	   Discussion of Meetings / Events]
THIS. 
          LET'S, UH, INVITE A CITY MANAGER, MAKE SUMMER LAST MONTH COMMENTS? THANKS. 
          MAY I ONLY HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY, BUT IT'S TIMELY WITH AN ITEM WE HAVE LATER IN THE AGENDA. 
          UH, IT'S OUR POLICE TALK. 
          JOIN THE TOWN OF ADDISON POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THURSDAY, MARCH 9TH AT 7:00 PM AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF POLICE TALK WHERE OFFICER DAVIS WILL BE TEACHING HOW TO PREVENT CAR BREAK-INS AND CATALY CATALYTIC CONVERTER THEFT. 
          PLEASE REGISTER AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB FRONT DESK. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, OUTGOING MEMBER, UH, FROM P AND Z AND NANCY. 
          CRAIG. 
          NANCY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. 
          WE CAN GO THERE. 
          LET'S GO IN THE FRONT OF THE CLASS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO EVERYBODY CAN'T SEE. 
          WOW, THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S PRETTY. 
          YEAH. 
          WOW. 
          YES. 
          SO GET, GET STEP. 
          SO GO OVER HERE. 
          THANK YOU MUCH. 
          HI. 
          STEPHANIE. 
          GETS HERE. 
          STEPHANIE, BEN. 
          YEAH, IT'S PRETTY. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE FOR THE, UH, YES. 
          YES. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGN A CARD FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, SIR. 
          WE DO NOT. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          ALL 
          [ Consent Agenda All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]
RIGHT. 
          CONSENT AGENDA, UH, ITEM A ALL THE WAY TO 14. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYTHING NEED TO BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION? NO, SIR. 
          8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 40. 
          NUMBER 10 IS THE WORK SESSION. 
          WE JUST TALK ABOUT ACCEPTANCE, DISTRIBUTION OF DARK GRANT AND AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. 
          SO OTHER THAN THAT, I MOVE APPROVAL. 
          SECOND, I HAVE THE MOTION FROM TO AND SECOND FROM GLORY WAR OR IN FAVOR? TO APPROVE THOSE ITEMS, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSE. 
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ITEM 
          [15.  Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Amending Chapter 58, Parks and Recreation, Article III, Addison Athletic Club, by Amending and Restating Sections 58-66 in its Entirety.]
15, PRESENT. 
          DISCUSS CONSIDERATION ON AUDIENCE AMENDING CHAPTER 58, PARKS AND RECREATION ARTICLE THREE, EDSON ATHLETIC CLUB BY AMENDING AND RESTATING SECTION 58 66 IN ITS ENTIRETY. 
          PAT JENNA, MAYOR COUNCIL JANET TIDAL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION FOR THE TOWN. 
          AND I AM HERE WITH PAT LIGHT, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF RECREATION. 
          THE ITEM THAT WE'RE BRINGING FOR YOU THIS EVENING IS A DISCUSSION ON THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB MEMBERSHIP POLICY. 
          THIS IS A FOLLOW UP TO THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD ON DECEMBER 12TH, UM, WHERE STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO DEVELOP A METHOD FOR CONFIRMING ADDISON RESIDENCY IN LIEU OF PROVIDING A TEXAS DEPARTMENT AND MO MOTOR VEHICLE DRIVER'S LICENSE OR IDENTIFICATION CARD, WHICH IS CURRENTLY A REQUIREMENT OF OUR ORDINANCE TO BECOME A MEMBER AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          AND AS A RESULT, STAFF IS PROPOSING UPDATES TO THE TOWN ORDINANCE REGARDING THE ATHLETIC CLUB MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND THEY ARE PROPOSING AN INTERNAL POLICY THAT IDENTIFIES HOW DIRECTOR'S DISCRETION WOULD BE UTI UTILIZED TO VERIFY RESIDENCY. 
          WHAT I'M SHOWING HERE IS A RED LINE VERSION OF THE PROPOSED UPDATES THAT WE HAVE TO THE ORDINANCES. 
          UM, SO ONE OF THE FIRST ONES WOULD BE WHERE WE ARE SAYING EXCEPTIONS TO THE MINIMUM MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS LISTED ABOVE. 
          SHOULD WE JUST STRUCK OUT, ONLY BE MADE CUZ THAT ALLOWS US THAT FLEXIBILITY. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO ADDED A FEW CLARIFICATIONS IN THE PAST. 
          OUR ORDINANCES, UM, STATED THAT RESIDENTS WHO ARE ACTIVE MILITARY AND WE'VE INCLUDED THEIR SPOUSE'S INDEPENDENCE, THAT ACTUALLY REFLECTS A CURRENT PRACTICE, UM, THAT WE HAVE. 
          UH, AND THEN WE HAVE ADDED THREE ITEMS. ONE OF THOSE ARE RESIDENTS WHO RESIDE IN A FACILITY THAT PROVIDES SERVICES RELATED TO HEALTH INFIRMITY OR AGING, AND RESIDENTS WITH A LICENSE ISSUED UNDER TRANSPORTATION CODE SECTIONS 5 21 0.1 21 C OR 5 21, 1 21 OR 1 2 11. 
          UM, AND WHAT THAT APPLIES TO IS THE FIRST ONE IS IF YOU ARE A POLICE OFFICER, AND THE SECOND ONE IS IF YOU ARE, UM, AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OR A, AN AN ATTORNEY OR A JUDGE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE ADDED NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS RESIDENCE THAT PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION AT THE DISRE DISCRETION OF THE DIRECTOR IN LIEU OF IDENTIFICATION REQUIRED IN A ONE, WHICH IS WHERE THE DRIVER'S LICENSE IS STATED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE INTERNAL POLICY THAT WAS DRAFTED WAS BASED OFF OF, UM, TEXAS, THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE FOR PROOF OF DOMICILE. 
          AND WHAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED IS A REQUIREMENT THAT IF THE DRIVER'S LICENSE PATH OR IDENTIFICATION CARD COULD NOT BE PROVIDED, UM, THAT THERE'S ANOTHER OPTION. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE PROPOSED MEMBER TO SUR I CANNOT TALK THIS EVENING, I'M SORRY, , TO PROVIDE A NOTARIZED AFFIDAVIT OF RESIDENCY, WHICH WOULD BE SUBMITTED AND PROVIDED TO THE DIRECTOR OR THEIR DESIGNEE. 
          AND IT WOULD HAVE ATTACHED TWO ADDITIONAL FORMS OF ADDRESS VERIFICATION LISTED FROM THE ITEMS BELOW. 
          THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE PROVIDED MUST MATCH THE ADDRESS THAT IS PROVIDED ON THE STATEMENT, THE, UM, AFFIDAVIT OF RESIDENCY. 
          AND SO THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE LISTED, AS I MENTIONED, THEY COME FROM THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE FROM, FOR PROOF OF DOMICILE, THAT WOULD BE PROVIDING A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY DEED TAX STATEMENT, A VALID UNEX EXPIRED VOTER'S REGISTRATION CARD, A CURRENT STATEMENT FROM A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION, A CURRENT HOMEOWNERS OR RENTER'S INSURANCE POLICY OR STATEMENT, A VALID UNEXPIRED TEXAS MOTOR VEHICLE REGISTRATION OR TITLE, A SELECTIVE SERVICE CARD, A MEDICAL STATEMENT OR A INSURANCE POLICY, A RECENT STATEMENT FROM A FEDERAL, STATE, COUNTY OR GOVERNMENT AGENCY. 
          AND THEN WE INCLUDED ITEM I, OTHER ITEMS AS APPROVED BY DIRECTOR IN CASE SOMETHING, SOME NEW THING CAME ALONG THAT MADE A LOT OF SENSE AND FIT IN THIS CRITERIA, WE COULD ALSO APPROVE THAT. 
          AND WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS. 
          WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE ATTACHED THAT REFLECTS WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED. 
          UM, IF, IF THE CONVERSATION'S POSITIVE AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER ADOPTING THAT, UM, WE DO THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM. 
          I LIKE IT. 
          I THINK IT'S THE ADDISON WAY THAT ALLOWING SOME DISCRETION THERE. 
          AND I THINK IT'S GONNA SOLVE A LOT OF THESE. 
          THERE'S LITTLE, IT'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S THESE ONE-OFF SITUATIONS THAT COME UP AND I LIKE THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE A LITTLE AT THE END THERE, YOU HAVE OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT MIGHT COME UP CUZ YOU DON'T KNOW A YEAR FROM NOW THERE'LL BE SOMETHING NEW THAT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDES. 
          UM, THE 
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ONLY THING I WOULD COMMENT ON, AND I'M ASSUME IT'S SOMEPLACE IN THERE THAT THIS ONLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN RESIDENTIAL ZONED PROPERTIES. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST, I THOUGHT IT WAS, BUT YEAH. 
          HAS SOMEBODY THAT LIVES IN AN, THAT HAS TO BE RESIDE THAT'S AT A HOTEL, CANNOT BE APPLYING AS A, UH, IT'S ON THERE. 
          YEAH, IT'S ON THERE. 
          THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING . 
          YEAH, GOOD POINT. 
          SO ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR JENNA AND PAT? DO WE WANNA HAVE SOME SORT OF REPORT OF THE EXCEPTIONS ANNUAL MEANING IF WE'RE KEEPING TRACK OF THIS WHERE IT JUST DOESN'T RUN AWAY? I JUST, I'M DO WE WANT TO DO THAT? NO, I DON'T. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB. 
          LET ME, LEMME SAY, I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB, . 
          WE WANNA PUT SOME SORT OF, UH, KIND OF CHECK AND BALANCE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I IS BASICALLY, SO IT WHAT STAFF FOR I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THE CHECK AND BALANCE IS, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE TOLD YOU SHEET AS WE GO INTO THIS, IS THAT I'LL, I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTIVE. 
          I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO REPORT GOING TO COUNSEL, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE SOUNDS GOOD. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK YOU. 
          DO YOU FEEL LIKE WITH THIS YOU'RE BETTER EQUIPPED, UH, TO, TO EMPOWER YOUR P YOUR, YOUR TEAM TO DO THEIR JOB WITHOUT FEAR OF, OF, OF, NOT REPRISAL, BUT JUST COMPLICATIONS? I I THINK THIS REALLY DOES, UM, ALL ALONG, ALTHOUGH WE, WE WANT, IF YOU LEGITIMATELY LIVE IN ADDISON, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME A MEMBER AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          BUT WE ALSO FELT VERY STRONGLY THAT WHATEVER DECISION PAT AND I MADE, WHOEVER'S SITTING AT THE FRONT DESK THAT DAY WOULD ALSO MAKE THAT SAME DECISION. 
          AND I THINK THIS INTERNAL POLICY DOES THAT BECAUSE THEY NOW KNOW, OKAY, THIS FITS WHAT MY DIRECTOR'S LOOKING FOR, THERE'S GONNA BE AN EXTRA STEP, BUT PROVIDE THIS AND I CAN GET WITH THEM. 
          AND SO I THINK IT REALLY, UM, KEEPS THAT CONTINUITY THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR AND SO WE WE'RE HAPPY WITH IT. 
          GOOD. 
          SO REMEMBER FOR THIS NUMBER ONE INTERNAL POLICY, THAT'S A TWO ADDITIONAL FORMS. SO IN OTHER WORDS, A TWO, NOT JUST ONE, JUST JUST I WANNA EMPHASIZE THAT. 
          SO I'LL READ IT. 
          I DO HAVE A QUESTION. 
          MAYOR. 
          A A NOTARIZED AFFIDAVIT OF RESIDENCY, IS THERE, DO WE HAVE, IS THERE SOMEONE THERE ON SITE FOR NOTARIZATION OR WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB THAT IS A NOTARY. 
          UM, WE'VE NEVER HAD TO HAVE THAT. 
          WE, WE RIGHT. 
          UM, I BELIEVE THERE ARE OTHER NOTARIES IN THE TOWN, BUT ANYBODY'S BANK YOU CAN GO TO. 
          I KNOW MY BANK WILL NOTARIZE THINGS FOR FREE. 
          SURE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S EASILY ATTAINABLE, I THINK FOR, FOR SOME OF THE EXCEPTIONS OF RESIDENTS WHO HAVE MULTIPLE HOMES AND, AND DIFFERENT STATES. 
          THEY SHOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH GETTING IT. 
          SURE. 
          NOTARIZED. 
          YEAH, I AGREE. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          THAT'S, NO, I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO IT AT ALL. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAS CONSIDERED THAT IT'S GOING TO SO ONE MORE STEP, RIGHT? YES. 
          THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS FOR US. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO LATER ON, THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL WON'T BE, UH, UH, ASKED AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SO CITY MANAGER CAN REDUCE SOME LOAD TOO, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN THE COUNCIL CANDIDATES ARE CAMPAIGNING, THEY CAN SAY THEY'VE ALREADY FIXED THAT AND JUST CHECK THAT BOX AND MOVE ON. 
          . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M SECOND. 
          SO I HAVE A MOTION BY DARREN GARNER, SECOND BY TOM BROWN. 
          OR IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS, PLEASE SAY, I, I OPPOSE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ITEM 
          [16.  Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Amending Chapter 54, Article III of the Code of Ordinances by Adding a New Article IV Entitled Possession of Catalytic Converters.]
16, PRESENT COURTS CONSIDER ACTION NINE. 
          ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 54, ARTICLE THREE OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCE BY ADDING A NEW ARTICLE FOUR ENTITLED, POSSESSION OF CATALYTIC CONVERTERS. 
          SO BECAUSE OF THIS, I WANT TO GOOGLE, YOU KNOW, OH THIS, A LOT OF, UH, PRECIOUS MATTER BEING INVOLVED. 
          THAT'S THE REASON PEOPLE WANNA STEAL IT, YOU KNOW. 
          UNBELIEVABLE. 
          GO AHEAD, MIKE. 
          TJ. 
          TJ TJ. 
          GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNSEL. 
          MY NAME IS TJ METZER. 
          I'M A LIEUTENANT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT A POTENTIAL NEW CITY ORDINANCE REGARDING THE POSSESSION OF CATALYTIC CONVERTERS. 
          UH, AS YOU MIGHT BE AWARE, THEFTS OF CATALYTIC CONVERTERS HAVE INCREASED DRASTICALLY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. 
          WE THINK THIS ORDINANCE WILL GIVE OUR OFFICERS ONE ADDITIONAL TOOL TO HELP COMBAT THAT. 
          SO FIRST, WHAT IS A CATALYTIC CONVERTER? IT'S A PART OF A CAR'S EXHAUST SYSTEM, UH, AND IT CONVERTS HARMFUL GASES INTO LESS HARMFUL EXHAUST. 
          UH, IT DOES CONTAIN THREE PRECIOUS METALS INSIDE THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER. 
          THOSE PRECIOUS METALS ACTUALLY DO A, A CHEMICAL REACTION THAT MITIGATES THE 
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EXHAUST. 
          IT IS LOCATED, EXPOSED AND UNDERNEATH A CAR'S CHASSIS. 
          BECAUSE OF THAT LOCATION, IT ALLOWS IT TO BE STOLEN PRETTY EASILY. 
          IN FACT, WE'LL SEE OFTEN THESE THEFTS OCCUR IN JUST ONE TO TWO MINUTES. 
          UH, AND MOST OF THESE THEFT OCCURS WITH TRUCKS AND SUVS CUZ THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER OFF THE GROUND. 
          SOMEONE WILL CRAWL UNDERNEATH THE CAR, CUT OFF THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER, AND THEY'RE GONE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. 
          SO WHY THEY'RE STOLEN? BECAUSE THE METALS INSIDE ARE VERY EXPENSIVE, UH, AS WE SAID THAT, THAT THEY'RE, UH, PRECIOUS METALS. 
          AND THERE'S ALSO A LARGE SECONDARY RESALE MARKET FOR THESE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS. 
          SO IF YOUR CATALYTIC CONVERTER IS STOLEN, IT MAY TAKE MANY MONTHS TO GET IT FROM A REPUTABLE LOCATION, UH, WHEREAS YOU CAN GET THEM, UH, KIND OF ON THE BLACK MARKET QUITE EASILY. 
          WE DO OCCASIONALLY RUN INTO PEOPLE WHO POSSESS MULTIPLE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS. 
          WE'VE STOPPED ON MANY OCCASIONS, INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE 3, 5, 7, AND 10 CATALYTIC CONVERTERS IN THEIR CAR. 
          WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE STOLEN. 
          UH, AND WE DO HAVE SOME CHALLENGES PROSECUTING THAT AT THE STATE LEVEL. 
          UH, BECAUSE SIMPLY POSSESSING THOSE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS IS NOT AN OFFENSE. 
          WE'D HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY STOLE IT FROM A, A SPECIFIC VEHICLE. 
          AND THERE'S GENERALLY NOT A VIN NUMBER OR SOMETHING IDENTIFYING THAT CATALYTIC CONVERTER TO A CERTAIN CAR. 
          OR WE'D HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY KNEW THAT IT WAS STOLEN, THAT THEY WERE IN POSSESSION OF STOLEN PROPERTY, WHICH UNLESS THEY ADMIT TO IT, UH, THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO DO THAT. 
          UH, HERE'S SOME DATA SHOWING THE THEFTS OF CATALY CONVERTERS THAT WE'VE HAD HERE IN ADDISON. 
          UH, TWENTY TWENTY ONE HUNDRED AND SEVEN, TWENTY TWENTY TWO, TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE. 
          SO IT'S MORE THAN DOUBLED, UH, YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          AND WE'RE CONTINUING ON A HIGH TRACK HERE IN 2023. 
          SO GOING OVER THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, IT WOULD BASICALLY MAKE IT AN OFFENSE, A CITY ORDINANCE VIOLATION TO POSSESS A CATALYTIC CONVERTER, UH, THAT IS DETACHED FROM A VEHICLE. 
          THERE WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION FOR METAL RECYCLING ENTITIES. 
          THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO POSSESS THOSE. 
          UM, EACH INDIVIDUAL CONVERT CONVERTER WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN OFFENSE. 
          SO IF AN INDIVIDUAL HAD THREE OR FIVE OR SEVEN, UH, EACH OF THOSE CONVERTERS WOULD BE A CITY ORDINANCE OFFENSE, UH, THAT WE COULD CHARGE THEM WITH. 
          UM, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE IF THE INDIVIDUAL WHO'S POSSESSING THE CONVERTER, UH, CAN PROVE THAT IT WAS REMOVED FROM THEIR SPECIFIC VE, EXCUSE ME, THEIR SPECIFIC VEHICLE, UH, OR THEY CAN PROVE THAT IT WAS PASSED ON LAWFULLY FROM ONE OWNER TO THE NEXT. 
          SO TO SUMMARIZE, IN THE END, UM, UH, CATALY CONVERTER THEFTS ARE, ARE, UH, GROWING EXPONENTIALLY. 
          UH, WE THINK THAT THIS IS ONE ADDITIONAL TOOL WE CAN GIVE OUR OFFICERS TO COMBAT THAT. 
          UH, AND WE DO HAVE THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO APPROVE THEM TODAY. 
          I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          HOW MANY CITY AUDIT ADOPT THIS? UH, I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC NUMBERS ON IT, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A FEW OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE LOOKED AT ADOPTING THIS AND IT WAS OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT PROVIDED US WITH THE, UH, PROPOSED. 
          SO WHERE WILL BE A TRE EDITOR? YEAH. 
          SO HOW MANY, HOW, WHAT ARE THE INSTANCES WHERE LET'S SAY SOMEONE STEALS MY CATALYTIC CONVERTER AND SO NOW I NEED ONE, AND THEN I WANT TO GO BUY ONE FROM A SALVAGE YARD. 
          WOULD I DO THAT? I MEAN, WOULD THAT, AND WOULD THAT, UH, YOU PROVIDED, IF YOU PROVIDED LIKE A RECEIPT FROM THE SALVAGE YARD AND GOT STOPPED, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S YOUR I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A RECEIPT SHOWING THAT I HAVE PURCHASED THAT. 
          CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          IF, IF, IF YOU WERE ABLE TO PROVE THAT YOU, YOU LO YOU TRANSFERRED IT GO INTO THIS, UH, SECOND AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE THAT THE OWNERSHIP WAS PASSED ON TO LAWFULLY, UH, YOU WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT. 
          SO YOU COULD CERTAINLY GET IT OVER TO AN, UH, AUTO DEALERSHIP OR, OR A MECHANIC TO HAVE THAT, UH, INSTALLED INTO YOUR VIEW. 
          SO THERE'S NOT ANY, YOU KNOW, LOOPHOLE THAT AN INNOCENT PERSON, UH, WOULD BE IN POSSESSION? WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS THERE'S ALWAYS INSTANCES, BUT I THINK THERE PROOF RECEIPT, I THINK THERE COULD BE, BUT OUR, OUR OFFICERS ARE GONNA USE THEIR DISCRETION IF SOMEONE HAS A, YOU KNOW, A REASONABLE STORY THAT, UH, THEY CAN EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE TYPE OF INDIVIDUAL THAT WE'RE GONNA ISSUE CITATIONS. 
          ARE THERE NORMAL CASES? WHO'S GOING TO TAKE THAT? FIND A CARD IN YOUR ? SO, SO THE, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM, UH, THE, UH, OFFICER'S SIDE OF, UH, THE EQUATION. 
          WHAT KIND RESIDENT DO TO HELP AVOID THIS IF, IF ANYTHING? UH, YES SIR. 
          SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          THERE ARE SOME PLATES THAT YOU CAN INSTALL ON YOUR VEHICLES, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A TRUCK OR A LARGER SUV V THAT THAT'S A BIGGER TARGET. 
          THERE'S SOME PLATES THAT YOU CAN INSTALL THAT PREVENT THE THEFT FROM OCCURRING. 
          UH, YOU CAN ALSO HAVE YOUR VIN ETCHED ON IT. 
          THAT WAY IF THE, THE CADILLAC CONVERTER IS STOLEN, UH, THEN IT CAN BE TRACKED BACK TO YOU. 
          THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF SIGN UP AND GO TO HIS CLASS, TO THE COMMUNITY CLASS WE HAVE, UH, NEXT WEEK. 
          AND TELL US AGAIN ABOUT THAT CLASS. 
          UH, I DON'T HAVE . 
          IT'S THURSDAY NEXT WEEK. 
          NO, JUST THE GENERAL. 
          OH. 
          UH, IT'S JUST GONNA BE SOME OVERALL TIPS, UH, TO HELP PREVENT CATALY CONVERTER THEFTS. 
          ALSO BURGLARY OF MOTOR VEHICLES. 
          UH, THAT USED TO BE, I MEAN, STILL IS A BIG PROBLEM WITH CARS GETTING BROKEN INTO AND HAVING PERSONAL 
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PROPERTY, STOLEN PURSES, LAPTOPS, THAT TYPE OF THING. 
          UH, BUT THIS CATALYTIC CONVERTER THEFT IS, IS REALLY WHAT'S HURTING US RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE, I'M SURE THAT INFORMATION? YES, IT'S, YEAH. 
          MARCH 9TH, 7:00 PM IT'LL BE ON THE WEBSITE IN THE NEWSLETTER. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS? WAIT, WAIT, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          PASSAGE OF THE ORDINANCE THEN WOULD BE PUNISHABLE BY A FINE OR WHAT? UH, YES MA'AM. 
          SO IT'D BE A CLASS C UH, MISDEMEANOR SEAT ORDINANCE VIOLATION BY A FINE, UP TO $500. 
          GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I MAKE A MOTION FOR ITEM 16 SECOND. 
          SO MOTION FROM KATHERINE WHEELER. 
          SECOND FOR ITEM . 
          ALL IN FAVOR? TO APPROVE THIS ITEM, PLEASE SAY, AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU TJ. 
          AT 
          [17.  Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on a Resolution Accepting Resignation of Place 2 Board of Zoning Adjustment Member and Appoint a New Place 2 Member to fill the Two-Year Unexpired Term Through December 2024.]
HIM 17. 
          PRESENT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION. 
          ACCEPTING RESIGNATION OF PLACE TWO BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT MEMBER AND APPOINTED NEW PLACE, TWO MEMBERS TO FIELD TWO YEAR EXPIRE TO DECEMBER, 2024. 
          MAYOR, UH, THANK YOU, UH, FOR THIS, UH, WE NEED TO, UH, THANK MR. CASTILLO, UH, UH, FOR HIS, UH, WORK ON THIS. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATION TO FOR REPLACEMENT, UH, MR. TYLER WRIGHT. 
          SO I HAVE A MOTION FROM GIMO AND SECOND FROM TOM BROWN. 
          TO A POINT, TYLER WRIGHT SHOULD BE THE NEXT BZA INITIATIVE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          OPPOS, THANK YOU. 
          MEETING THE ADJOURN IS BEFORE NINE 30.
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