[00:00:07] IT'S REALLY AN HONOR TO BE HERE. [INAUDIBLE] MY FAMILY AND I MOVED HERE WE'RE RESIDENTS AS WELL AND IT'S JUST BEEN AN INCREDIBLE CITY [INAUDIBLE] PASSION FOR THE TOWN YOU ALL HAVE. BEFORE THE PRESENTATION I'LL MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS. FIRST, [INAUDIBLE] BEFORE I STARTED THE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME [INAUDIBLE]. AS FAR AS LOGISTICS AND NEXT STEPS, I'M [INAUDIBLE] PRESENTATION BEFORE I COME BACK UP [INAUDIBLE]. HISTORY OF ADDISON AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY. [INAUDIBLE] . THANK YOU DAVID AND GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. USUALLY SO [INAUDIBLE] I'VE WORKED IN A LOT OF COMMUNITIES AND HAVE DONE A LOT OF MEETINGS LIKE THIS . [INAUDIBLE] THE DISCUSSION WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE VERY BROAD. IT'S COVERING A VERY COMPLEX TOPIC. THIS WON'T BE THE LAST TIME WE TALK ABOUT IT. IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A JOURNEY. REDEVELOPMENT, HOW MANY [INAUDIBLE]. A REAL DIFFICULT ISSUE. AS A PLANNER, THE WAY I APPROACH ISSUE [INAUDIBLE] UNDERSTANDING THE HISTORY OF THAT ISSUE. WITH MY PRESENTATION TONIGHT I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THE HISTORY OF ADDISON. HOW IT'S [INAUDIBLE] PATTERNS HAVE SHAPED HOW OUR HOUSING PATTERN AND HOUSING OCCUPANCY HAS SHAPED AND STARTING TO INTRODUCE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'VE HEARD US TALK ABOUT. [INAUDIBLE]. [INAUDIBLE]. RE USE IS [INAUDIBLE]. REDEVELOPMENT IS WHAT YOU SEE WHEN A BUILDING SITE IS [INAUDIBLE]. IN ADDISON IN OUR CURRENT [INAUDIBLE] MOST OF WHAT YOU SEE IS REUSE OR REDEVELOPMENT. AND WHY YOU'RE SEEING THAT IT IS USUALLY IS [INAUDIBLE] DECLINE. A DECLINE OF [INAUDIBLE]. BUILDINGS AREN'T BEING PROPERLY MAINTAINED. AND DECLINE IN THE FORM OF ECONOMIC VITALITY. WHETHER THE CURRENT USE OF THAT BUILDING AND SITE IS GATHERING APPROPRIATE REVENUE FOR [INAUDIBLE]. SO WITH THE DEVELOPMENT YOU SEE [INAUDIBLE] [00:05:02] DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS SEEING OVER THE LAST YEAR REALLY, WE'VE HAD A COMMON THEME. REALLY, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THE [INAUDIBLE]. THAT COMES IN THE FORM OF URBAN HOUSING OPTIONS . BOTH RENTAL AND OWNERSHIP. SO MULTI FAMILY HOUSING. TOWNHOMES. SENIOR HOUSING. AND ALSO YOU SEE SUPPORTING OFFICE AND NEW EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES. AND THEN RETAIL, RESTAURANT AND ENTERTAINMENT OPPORTUNITIES IS A LOT OF WHAT YOU SEE TODAY.ALSO WITH THESE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS YOU SEE AN EVOLUTION IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. FOCUS MORE ON HOW [INAUDIBLE]. FOLKS WANT MORE WALKABILITY. [INAUDIBLE] SO YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THIS A LOT TONIGHT. ADDISON IS A VERY [INAUDIBLE] COMMUNITY. I PERSONALLY THINK THAT IS SOMETHING TO CELEBRATE AND HOW WE GOT TO WHERE IT IS IS A UNIQUE STORY AND UNIQUE HISTORY. IT STARTED WITH A SERIES OF [INAUDIBLE]. SO ADDISON BACK WHEN IT WAS A RURAL COMMUNITY AND MOST [INAUDIBLE] REALLY LOOKING BACK TO THE 1950S THAT STARTED AN EVOLUTION TO A COMMUNITY THAT IS VERY DOMINATE IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL LAND USE [INAUDIBLE]. SO ADDISON AIRPORT WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE EARLY 50S . AND THAT REALLY STARTED TO SHAPE THE COMMERCIAL [INAUDIBLE]. AS YOU MOVE TO THE 70S WE SAW 2 MAJOR EVENTS. FIRST THE EXPANSION OF THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY. THAT REALLY ESTABLISHED ADDISON AS THE PLACE TO GO TO WORK. NOT ONLY DID IT PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES [INAUDIBLE] FOR ADDISON RESIDENTS, REALLY FOR THE ENTIRE REGION. IT REALLY BECAME A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAME TO WORK. PARALLEL TO THAT, ADDISON ADOPTED A [INAUDIBLE] INTO TOWN. IN ADDITION TO WHERE SOME PEOPLE LIVED A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING THERE. IT BECAME A PLACE OF SOCIAL ACTIVITY AS WELL. MOVING INTO THE 80S, ADDISON BECAME A MEMBER OF THE DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT SYSTEM. STARTED WITH THE BUS TRANSIT THAT YOU SEE TODAY. AND IT WILL EXTEND TO ACCOMIDATE THE SILVER LINE PROVIDING A EAST WEST RAIL LINE THAT TRAVERSES THE METRO PLEX [INAUDIBLE] THE LAST DEFINING EVENT [INAUDIBLE] NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU SEE NOW [INAUDIBLE] ADDISON CITIZEN COMMITTEE CALLED VISION [INAUDIBLE]. THAT COMMITTEE DEVELOPED A PLAN [INAUDIBLE] THAT ALSO LED TO [INAUDIBLE]. THAT VISION [INAUDIBLE] . IT WAS REALLY ABOUT CHANGE AND HOW THE TOWN APPROACHED LAND USE PLANNING [INAUDIBLE]. WITH THE DEFINING EVENTS, ADDISON HAS SHOWN [INAUDIBLE]. [INAUDIBLE] FAR MORE THEN MOST COMMUNITIES IN THE METROPLEX. AND THAT IS REALLY SOMETHING TO BE CELEBRATED A HUGE PART WHY ADDISON IS THE SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY IT IS TODAY. AND WHY EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM LOVES THIS COMMUNITY. SO THAT REALLY STARTED IN THE LATE 80S EARLY 90S WITH THAT VISION [INAUDIBLE] PLAN [INAUDIBLE]. AND IT CONTINUED AS THE TOWN TRANSITIONED TO THE NEXT PHASE IN IT'S LIFE CYCLE [INAUDIBLE]. FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] THE TOWN TOOK ACTION TO ADOPT A HOUSING POLICY 1215 [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN ALSO DEVELOPED A SERIES [INAUDIBLE] CITIZEN GROUPS SOUGHT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY TO DEVELOP DETAILED VISION [INAUDIBLE] AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY [INAUDIBLE]. WITH THAT BROADER POLICY FRAME WORK [INAUDIBLE] DETAILED PLANS TO FORM SOCIAL AMENITIES, PARKS AND TRAILS, INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR TREE NETWORK AND THEN FOR OUR [00:10:04] ADDISON AIRPORT. THIS IS THE 2013 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IF YOU HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT, IT IS ON THE TOWN WEBSITE . IT IS WONDERFUL [INAUDIBLE]. IT PROVIDES BOTH POLICY AND DIRECTION, BUT ALSO REALLY TELLS THE STORY OF HOW YOUR COMMUNITY BECAME WHAT IT WAS AND ALL THE PEOPLE [INAUDIBLE]. A FEW WONDERFUL QUOTES HERE.[INAUDIBLE] ADDISON WELCOMES NEW AN INNOVATIVE IDEAS FOR LAND USE AND OFTEN BRINGS NEW IDEAS TO THE TABLE TO HELP DEVELOPERS MAXIMIZE THEIR PROPERTIES. THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO CREATIVE CAN DO ATTITUDE WE KNOW IS THE ADDISON WAY. THE TOWN WORKS HARD TO ENSURE THAT EACH PARCEL ACHIEVES ITS HIGHEST AND BEST USE WHILE BEING MINDFUL OF THE NEED OF EVERY PARCEL TO COMPLEMENT, NOT DETRIMENT, ITS NEIGHBORS. THAT SPEAKS TO THE TOWN'S WILLINGNESS AND GREAT EFFORT TO FIND AND STRIKE BALANCES [INAUDIBLE] . SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER THE TOWN HAS A HOUSING POLICY. THAT HOUSING POLICY WAS FIRST ADOPTED IN 2015. AND THEN IT WAS AMENDED IN 2017. THAT 2017 AMENDMENT, WAS REALLY DRIVEN BY STAFF, AND REALLY MY DEPARTMENT STAFF, MY PREDECESSORS NEED TO GET FEEDBACK ON HOW [INAUDIBLE] THAT HOUSING POLICY [INAUDIBLE] . THIS HOUSING POLICY IS COMPRISED OF 5 COMPONENTS. AND IT DOES SEEM TO PRIORITIZE [INAUDIBLE]. THAT IS A KEY EMPHASIS OF THIS HOUSING POLICY. IT ALSO CONSIDERS [INAUDIBLE] AND PROVIDES FLEXIBILITY FOR [INAUDIBLE]. WITH THAT HOUSING POLICY STAFF THIS SUMMER DEVELOPED A [INAUDIBLE] HOUSING. IT'S ON THE TOWNS WEBSITE. YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN IT. [INAUDIBLE] SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT NECESSITATED THIS MEETING. AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT IT OVER TIME. [INAUDIBLE]. TO IMPLEMENT THOSE POLICIES, THE TOWN HAS A ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. THIS PROCESS CAN BE VERY STREAMLINED AND SHORTER FOR ROUTINE PROJECTS, SUCH AS OPENING A NEW RESTAURANT, EXISTING RESTAURANT [INAUDIBLE]. FOR VERY COMPLEX PROJECTS LIKE REDEVELOPMENT OF AN OFFICE PARK TO A MIXED USE PROJECT THAT CAN [INAUDIBLE] TAKE 1 TO 2 YEARS. SO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE FINAL OUTCOME. THE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, THINK [INAUDIBLE]. THERE'S LOTS OF WORK INITIALLY DONE BY THE DEVELOPER TO DETERMINE IF A PROJECT IS FEASIBLE FOR THAT SITE. AND ALSO MONTHS OF REVIEW AND [INAUDIBLE] BETWEEN CITY STAFF AND THE DEVELOPERS AS WELL IN CONSIDERATION AND WEIGHING HOW A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT COMPLIES OR DOES NOT COMPLY WITH OUR POLICY. SO GENERALLY THIS IS A 3 STEP PROCESS. THE FIRST STEP IS LARGELY [INAUDIBLE] WE'LL CALL THAT THE FEASIBILITY STEP . THAT'S THE DEVELOPER IS DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND INITIATING DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF. THE SECOND STEP IS WHEN A FORMAL APPLICATION IS MADE AND REVIEWED BY OUR STAFF IS DONE AND COMMENTS ARE TRADED BACK AND FORTH WITH THE DEVELOPER. FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE A MAJOR CHANGE OR A MAJOR CHANGE IS BEING PROPOSED [INAUDIBLE] ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED LEGALLY TO RESOLVE THE PROCESS. AND THEN THAT 3RD AND FINAL STEP IS THE FORMAL PUBLIC HEARINGS AND NOTICES FOR THE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. SO THE OUTCOMES OF IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR POLICY [INAUDIBLE] REALLY OVER THE YEARS HAVE CREATED 4 DISTINCT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT. THE FIRST ONE IS REALLY THE EARLY YEARS OF ADDISON. THE 50S AND 60S. THAT WAS OUR TRANSITION FROM RURAL COMMUNITY [INAUDIBLE] AIRPORT TO A SUBURBAN COMMUNITY. [00:15:04] IN THE 70S AND 80S, WHEN DNT WAS EXTENDED AND ADDISON BECAME A PLACE WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE WORKING AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE SOCIALIZING WE'LL CALL THAT A PERIOD OF RAPID GROWTH. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE STARTING TO SEE INITIAL [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO A SIGNIFICANT [INAUDIBLE] IN THE FORM OF OFFICE AND RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS. THE CURATED CHANGE PERIOD REALLY BEGAN AND WAS KICKED OFF WITH THE VISION 2020 PLAN. THAT IS WHEN THE TOWN VERY DELIBERATELY PLANNED IN A WAY THAT WAS DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN ADDISON. THAT IS WHEN THE TOWN BEGAN EXPLORING THE CONCEPT OF URBANISM AND IMPLEMENTED THAT CONCEPT IN THE ADDISON CIRCLE DEVELOPMENT. NOW WE'RE IN THE PERIOD OF REINVESTMENT, AND THIS PERIOD REALLY DOES NOT HAVE A TERMINUS BECAUSE WE ARE A BUILT OUT COMMUNITY. WE ARE A MATURE COMMUNITY. AS WE CONTINUE TO MATURE, WE'RE GOING TO EVOLVE AND REINVESTMENT WILL OCCUR. SO THE OUTCOMES OF THAT PROCESS, THIS CHART BEFORE YOU IS REPRESENTING THE DECENNIAL CENSUS RESULTS. SO THAT'S THE TEN YEAR CENSUS GOING BACK 40 YEARS. SO 1980 TO 2020. DURING THAT TIME, THE TOWN OF ADDISON, OVER THAT 40 YEAR PERIOD ADDED 11,000 RESIDENTS AND 6000 HOUSING UNITS. COMPARATIVELY, DFW, AS WE KNOW, EXPERIENCED RAPID GROWTH DURING THAT TIME. DFW ADDED 4 MILLION RESIDENTS. THE CITY OF FRISCO DURING THIS TIME, AND REALLY EVEN SHORTER SINCE THEIR GROWTH PERIOD KICKED OFF IN 1990. THEY ADDED OVER 200,000 RESIDENTS. THE CITY OF CARROLLTON ADDED OVER 100,000 RESIDENTS. NORMALIZING FOR LAND AREA, ADDISON GREW AT A FASTER RATE THAN FARMERS BRANCH, BUT A SLOWER RATE THAN CARROLLTON. SOME OF THE REALLY INTERESTING THINGS COMING OUT OF THIS DATA IS YOU SEE, IN THE PERIOD BETWEEN 1990 AND 2000, YOU HAVE A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL UPTICK IN POPULATION. SO THAT REFLECTS THE DEVELOPMENT OF ADDISON CIRCLE IN THE LATE NINETIES THAT ADDED 2000 DWELLING UNITS BETWEEN 2020 TEN, WE DID SOMETHING THAT MOST PROSPEROUS COMMUNITIES DON'T DO. WE LOST POPULATION. THAT WASN'T BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE LEAVING ADDISON. THAT WASN'T BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE DISINVESTING IN ADDISON. THAT WAS BECAUSE THE VITRUVIAN PROJECT KICKED OFF WITH THAT PROJECT. ONE OF THE FIRST ACTIONS WAS THE REDEVELOPMENT OF 1800 EXISTING MULTIFAMILY RENTAL DWELLING UNITS. SO THERE WAS A LOSS OF NEARLY 2000 DWELLING UNITS DURING THAT TIME. THAT IS WHAT'S REFLECTED THERE. THE OTHER THING YOU'LL SEE AS YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART IS ABSENT THOSE TWO EVENTS, YOU REALLY SEE A LINEAR GROWTH RATE. THERE'S NOTHING EXTREME HAPPENING IN THE HISTORY OF ADDISON OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS THAT WOULD SUGGEST GROWTH IS OUT OF CONTROL. IT WAS VERY LINEAR AND VERY MODERATE. FROM THAT POPULATION AND HOUSING GROWTH. THERE'S REALLY SOME SOME KEY TRENDS. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT COMMUNITY IDENTITY, WE THINK ABOUT OUR PEOPLE, WE THINK ABOUT OUR ECONOMY AND WE THINK ABOUT OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT. SO THE CURRENT CONDITIONS IN ADDISON, OUR CURRENT COMMUNITY IDENTITY, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT OUR PEOPLE, WE'RE A YOUTHFUL COMMUNITY, WE'RE DIVERSE AND WE'RE EDUCATED. 70% OF OUR POPULATION IS UNDER THE AGE OF 44. LESS THAN 10% OF THE POPULATION IS OVER 65. MUCH OF THAT POPULATION HAS DEGREES, AND HALF OF THAT POPULATION IS RACIAL AND ETHNIC MINORITY. WITH THAT POPULATION, YOU ALSO SEE THAT WE HAVE SMALL HOUSEHOLDS THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF OUR YOUTHFUL POPULATION. ONLY 16% OF OUR HOUSEHOLDS HAVE CHILDREN UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE LIVING IN THEM. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OUR ECONOMY, THINK OF US AS A CENTER OF ACTIVITY. WE BRING IN A LOT OF PEOPLE TO THE TOWN EACH DAY TO WORK AND SOCIALIZE. OUR DAYTIME POPULATION IS OVER FIVE TIMES OUR RESIDENT POPULATION. 100,000 PEOPLE COME HERE EACH DAY TO WORK AND SOCIALIZE. WE HAVE AN ACTIVE AIRPORT AND WE HAVE A STRONG BASE OF RESTAURANTS WHERE PEOPLE SOCIALIZE AND WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE LINEUP OF SPECIAL [00:20:01] EVENTS. THOSE EVENTS, THOSE RESTAURANTS ARE NOT JUST SERVING AS ADDISON RESIDENTS PRIMARILY. THEY ARE NOT SERVING ADDISON RESIDENTS. THEY ARE SERVING THE REST OF THE REGION THAT COMES INTO ADDISON BECAUSE YOU HAVE SUCH A GREAT COMMUNITY. THEY WANT TO BE HERE. THEY WANT TO SOCIALIZE HERE. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT US AS A PLACE AND OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT, I THINK THE KEY TREND HERE IS, IS THAT WE'RE MATURE AS A COMMUNITY AND THAT WE HAVE VERY LITTLE VACANT LAND. WE'RE LARGELY BUILT OUT AND WE'RE VERY MUCH A COMMUNITY DOMINATED BY COMMERCIAL LAND USE. 70% OF OUR COMMUNITY IS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THE AIRPORT ALONE COMPRISES 25% OF OUR LAND AREA. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OUR HOUSING, WE HAVE A UNIQUE MIX. SO ABSENT THE RENTAL VERSUS OWNERSHIP ISSUE, THINK ABOUT OUR HOUSING TYPOLOGY. WE HAVE SUBURBAN HOUSING BOTH IN FORM OF OWNERSHIP AND RENTAL, IN THE FORM OF LOW DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OUR URBAN HOUSING, WE HAVE VERY DENSE RENTAL HOUSING, BUT WE DO HAVE A FAIRLY IMPRESSIVE MIX OF OWNERSHIP, URBAN HOUSING IN THE FORM OF TOWNHOMES LIKE WHAT YOU SEE IN ADDISON CIRCLE OR WHAT YOU SEE IN THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN AS WELL. SO WE HAVE A DIVERSE HOUSING MIX, ROUGHLY SPLIT 5050 BETWEEN URBAN AND SUBURBAN HOUSING TYPES, AND THEN OUR HOUSING PATTERN. SO WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOUSING AND HOW IT'S CHANGING AND WHAT THE RATIO IS OF OWNERSHIP HOUSING TO RENTAL HOUSING CURRENTLY. WELL, THE CURRENT PATTERN IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT EXTENDS BACK THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE HISTORY OF ADDISON. IF YOU LOOK BACK 40 YEARS TO 1980, THE HOUSING MIX WAS 95% RENTAL TO 5% OWNERSHIP. IF YOU LOOK AT THE AREA WHERE WHICH WE CALLED CURATED CHANGE BETWEEN 1990 AND 2013, YOU STARTED TO SEE SOME CHANGE. SOME OF THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT OCCURRED ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN WHERE MOST OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS. BUT ALSO YOU SEE IT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF ADDISON CIRCLE, WHICH INCLUDED SOME OWNERSHIP, HOUSING, BUT ALSO A BIG CHANGE THERE. AND WE REALLY NEVER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN BELOW 80% RENTAL HOUSING IN TOWN. BUT FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF VITRUVIAN, THAT LOSS OF 1800 RENTAL UNITS IS WHY WE ARE BELOW 80% RENTAL HOUSING AT THE MOMENT. BUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING AS THE MASTER PLAN FOR VITRUVIAN IS BUILT OUT, YOU START TO SEE SOME OF THAT MULTIFAMILY RENTAL HOUSING BEING BUILT BACK INTO THE MIX. SO KEY OUTCOMES FROM OUR HISTORY, ADDISON HAS ROBUST COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, 70% COMMERCIAL, AND WE REALLY HAVE SOME CROWN JEWELS IN THAT MIX. THE DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE ALONG THE DENT PROVIDES A TON OF EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY AND WE HAVE A REGIONAL RETAIL LOCATION AT VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY. WE HAVE AND WE HAVE BENEFITED FROM THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THAT WE HAVE SUCH A HIGH RATIO OF JOBS TO HOUSING AND. WE ARE SO RELIANT ON OUR COMMERCIAL TAX BASE, WHICH OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR WILL TALK ABOUT HEAR SHORTLY, AND THAT IT HAS ALLOWED US TO PROVIDE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF AMENITIES NOT ONLY TO OUR RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO WHO WORK AND SOCIALIZE HERE AND THEN THE HOUSING PATTERN. WE ARE TRULY UNIQUE IN THE METROPLEX AND REALLY IN MOST AREAS. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT ADDISON, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AS A BENEFIT. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT COMPETING FOR INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE, WHEN ALL THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES ARE BUILT OUT. YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT DIFFERENTIATES YOUR COMMUNITY FROM EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY AROUND HERE. SO NOW LET'S START TALKING ABOUT HOW THIS IMPACTS THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS THAT YOU SEE COMING BEFORE YOU AND WHY IT'S NOT ACHIEVING THE DESIRES AND THE ASPIRATIONAL GOALS FOR OWNERSHIP HOUSING. SO JUST VERY BROADLY, DEVELOPERS ARE THERE. THEY'RE A RATIONAL GROUP. THEY WANT TO CREATE WIN WIN SOLUTIONS. THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER SOLUTIONS THAT A COMMUNITY CAN SUPPORT. BUT THEY CAN'T DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS TO THEIR DETRIMENT. ULTIMATELY, THEY HAVE TO ACHIEVE SEVERAL THINGS. THEY HAVE TO FIND A SITE THAT IS PHYSICALLY SUITABLE FOR WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO DEVELOP. THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP A PRODUCT AT THAT SITE WHERE THEY CAN MEET THEIR MARKET AND ULTIMATELY SECURE THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT THEY NEED TO MAKE THE [00:25:06] PROJECT VIABLE. AND THEY NEED TO SHOW COMPLIANCE WITH TOWN POLICIES AND REGULATIONS. THAT IS A DIFFICULT THING TO BALANCE. IT IS A DIFFICULT THING TO ACHIEVE. ALL THOSE GOALS AND BALANCE IS REALLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE STRUCK IN THAT CONSIDERATION. DEVELOPERS CAN BE PIONEERING, THEY CAN HAVE A BIG VISION, BUT THEY CAN'T TAKE ON THE VISION OF A COMMUNITY THAT IS SO ASPIRATIONAL THAT THEY CAN'T MAKE A PROFIT AND RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN THEIR PROJECT. OTHERWISE, THEY'RE DOING THE PROJECT FOR NO PURPOSE. SO WHEN YOU START TO THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE KEY FACTORS, THE FEASIBILITY CONCERNS FOR WHY A DEVELOPER MAY OR MAY NOT PROPOSE A PROJECT IN A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY, REALLY THERE'S A RANGE OF THINGS. THE EASIEST FORM OF DEVELOPMENT AND THE EASIEST WAY TO DEVELOP IS TO FIND A PIECE OF VACANT LAND THAT IS SERVED BY EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE PART. WE DON'T HAVE MUCH VACANT LAND. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT SHORTLY. COMPATIBILITY IS A HUGE ISSUE. YOU CAN FIND A GOOD SITE OF VACANT LAND OR YOU CAN FIND A GOOD REDEVELOPMENT OR RE-USE OPPORTUNITY. BUT IF THE SURROUNDING LAND USES ARE INDUSTRIAL HEAVY COMMERCIAL OR IT'S ADJACENT TO A SEGMENT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CREATES A LOT OF NEGATIVE IMPACTS, IT'S HARD TO JUSTIFY CERTAIN FORMS OF DEVELOPMENT ON PARCELS LIKE THAT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO FIND A PARCEL THAT IS COMPATIBLE ENOUGH THAT THE MARKET WILL SUPPORT IT. PROXIMITY TO KEY AMENITIES. SO THAT INCLUDES JOBS. WE ALL WOULD LOVE TO LIVE CLOSER TO OUR JOBS. WE DON'T LOVE DRIVING FOR HOURS ON END AND THEN PROXIMITY TO AMENITIES SUCH AS PARKS TRAILS, RETAIL, RESTAURANTS, THOSE ALL WEIGH INTO PEOPLE'S DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE AND WORK. EDUCATION IS ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THAT. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OWNERSHIP, HOUSING, PARTICULARLY EDUCATION AND ACCESS TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS, IS A VERY PROMINENT CONSIDERATION, AND IT'S DRIVING THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CHANGE YOU SEE IN THE NORTHERN SUBURBS. AND THEN THERE'S ULTIMATELY THE ECONOMIC ISSUE. YOU CAN BUILD, YOU CAN FIND A SUITABLE SITE TO BUILD A PRODUCT, BUT DEPENDING ON THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU ACHIEVE A COST THAT IS SO HIGH THAT YOU CAN'T ACHIEVE THE MARKET, THE DEMOGRAPHIC THAT YOU NEED TO HIT TO SELL THAT PRODUCT, ONCE AGAIN, YOU'RE OUT OF ALIGNMENT. SO FOCUSING ON THE TOPIC OF OWNERSHIP, HOUSING, REALLY THERE'S THIS IS A COMPLEX ISSUE, BUT THERE'S REALLY FOUR VERY PROMINENT CONSIDERATIONS AS TO WHY WE'RE NOT GETTING THE OWNERSHIP HOUSING PROPOSALS THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE. THAT WOULD MAKE MY JOB A LOT EASIER AS WE GET DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS HERE IN EDISON. SO THE FIRST COMPONENT, LIMITED SUPPLY OF VACANT LAND, THAT IS THE EASIEST AND CHEAPEST WAY TO BUILD OWNERSHIP HOUSING. THAT IS WHY YOU SEE PLACES LIKE PROSPER AND SALINA AND YOU READ IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS ABOUT THEM BUILDING 3000 HOMES. THEY ARE GROWING THAT WAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE VACANT LAND IN ABUNDANCE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT ADDISON, WE HAVE 133 ACRES OF VACANT LAND REMAINING. SO MOST NEW DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE THE RESULT OF REDEVELOPING EXISTING SITES. WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR VACANT LAND, YOU SEE MOST OF IT IS ORIENTED ALONG DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY, AND YOU SEE SOME OF IT ORIENTED ALONG THE DART RIGHT OF WAY NEAR ADDISON CIRCLE. AND THEN YOU SEE OTHER LARGE CHUNKS AT VITRUVIAN PARK. SOME OF THAT LAND IS SPOKEN FOR, BUT IN PARTICULAR THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY DEVELOPMENT. YOU ONCE AGAIN RUN INTO COMPATIBILITY ISSUES FOR OWNERSHIP, HOUSING, AT LEAST THE LOWER DENSITY ELEMENTS OF OWNERSHIP HOUSING. SO THE NEXT DEVELOPMENT CONSTRAINT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS LIMITED SUPPLY OF COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT SITES. SO AT ESSENCE ARTERIAL CORRIDORS, WHEN WE THINK BELTLINE, MIDWAY, MARSH, INWOOD, ANYTHING AROUND THE AIRPORT, MANY OF THOSE CORRIDORS HAVE VERY INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE SOON. YOU ALSO HAVE CORRIDORS THAT ARE VERY AUTO ORIENTED. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO LIKE RAISING CANE'S AND HAVE BEEN TO RAISING CANE'S RECENTLY, YOU'LL SEE WITH THIS IMAGE ON THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE A NEW BUILDING GOING UP IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO RAISING CANE'S THAT WILL BE PUT IN SINGLE FAMILY OWNERSHIP, HOUSING, [00:30:10] DOORSTEPS DIRECTLY BEHIND THAT. MOST OF ALL LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR. POSSIBLY. SO WE ARE. FALSE. THERE IS THAT WHILE THE RISE OF THE IS SPREADING WAR, OF COURSE THERE IS LESS IF YOU WANT TO LIVE LONG AND PROSPER IS. WHAT THAT MEANS FOR ME. OH, THIS IS SO SERIOUS. THE DOG WAS ALWAYS. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE ALWAYS. YOUR JOB IS TO. IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING? THOSE ARE. YOU. HE. SEE. SHE. [00:35:11] JUSTICE. JUST. SHE'S. SO. SHE. GEORGE. AND. IT'S. I'M. SHE. SHE. SO. JUST. SHOULD ALSO. OUR DISPATCH CENTER ON TEXAS COMMUNICATION CENTER. WE HAVE OUR OUR TOWN DEVELOPED OR SEGMENTED INTO SIX DISTRICTS OR SIX BEATS. WE USE THE MAP UP HERE TO SHOW YOU. SO THE VITRUVIAN SPRING VALLEY AREA, INCLUDING GEORGE BUSH ELEMENTARY AND LOIS FIELDHOUSE IS IS B1, B2 IS THE LOX MIDWAY MEADOWS. IT ALSO INCLUDES THE TARGET KROGER COMMERCIAL AREAS, INCLUDES IHOP, INCLUDES THE TOWNHOMES, ASHBURY, ALSO GOING ALL WAY DOWN TO ADDISON GROVE. SO ALL THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ON BELTLINE ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND ALL THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT ARE TRADITIONALLY IN THERE. AND YOU'LL NOTICE THREE AND FOUR AREN'T INCLUDED IN THAT PIE CHART BECAUSE THERE'S ALMOST THERE'S ZERO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN THREE, WHICH IS TYPICALLY, AGAIN, WE'RE BUDGET SUITES IS THE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL AREAS OFF BILLY MITCHELL AND THEN GOING DOWN THROUGH INWOOD CORRIDOR, MOSTLY RESTAURANTS, HOTELS AND COMMERCIAL. THE AIRPORT IS THE AIRPORT. IT'S ALL BY ITSELF. NOBODY LIVES THERE, HOPEFULLY. AND THEN WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL FIVE FEET, THE FRONTAGE ON BELTLINE. WE'RE ON THE BORDER, TJ, TGI FRIDAYS OUT OF DECLARE, GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH ADDISON CIRCLE, THEN NORTH, THE LANDMARK, AND THEN UP ON THE VERY NORTH END BY TCA AND AND THE HOMES UP THERE OFF OF 17 THE TOP END OF OUR OUR TOWN WHERE WE TERMINATE WITH CARROLLTON HIGH HIGH RESIDENTIAL POPULATION IN THERE AND THEN WE'VE GOT SIX FEET WHICH IS 5051 BLOCK OF BELTLINE THAT INCLUDES ALL THAT AREA WHETHER QUORUM AND LANDMARK AND THEN ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO OAKS NORTH, MIDWAY MEADOWS EXCUSE ME, MIDWAY MEADOWS, WYNNEWOOD AND BELLBROOK AREA. WE'RE IT TERMINATES ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY. WE'VE ADDED THE PERCENTAGES OF OF OUR HOUSING BY BEAT. YOU'LL NOTICE THE FIVE IS OUR BIGGEST AND THEN WE'VE GOT TWO BEATEN AND ONE BEAT THAT KIND OF ROUND OUT THE BOTTOM THERE. ANYBODY HAS HEARD ME TALK FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS, I'VE BEEN IN MY POSITION. THE ONE THING I SAY REPEATEDLY AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN TONIGHT IS WE ARE A HEAVY, HEAVY CALL FOR SERVICE IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. FOR OUR PURPOSES, WE INCLUDE HOTELS IN OUR COMMERCIAL DATA SET. SO HERE YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE CALLS FOR SERVICE ALMOST 80%. AND IT'S ALWAYS, AGAIN, I'VE WORKED HERE ALMOST 28 YEARS. WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN THE 75 TO 85% OF OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE. ALL OF OUR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON IN THE TOWN FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE HAPPENS IN OUR COMMERCIAL AREAS. THAT INCLUDES HOTELS. RESIDENTIAL IS VERY LOW AND IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN. AND SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT. AND ALSO AS AS A LITTLE BIT OF A COMMENTARY. [00:40:01] MAJORITY OF OUR SERIOUS CRIME HAPPENS IN THE COMMERCIAL AREAS. VIOLENT CRIME IN ADDISON IS IS LOW. COMPARATIVELY. OUR PROPERTY CRIME IS TYPICALLY OUR BIGGEST ISSUE. AND OF THAT, THE VIOLENT CRIME IS EXCEEDINGLY LOW IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHETHER IT'S MULTIFAMILY OR SINGLE FAMILY. RIGHT. AGAIN FOR TONIGHT, STAYING HIGH LEVEL, MR. GAINES SAID WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BROAD APPROACH THIS TONIGHT. WE WANTED TO LOOK AT OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE AGAIN. FOR ME, IT'S ABOUT RESOURCES, PUBLIC SAFETY, RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE. DO WE HAVE ENOUGH? HOW ARE THEY BEING USED SO THAT WE CAN USE AN EFFICIENT WAY OR THEY ARE HONORING TAXPAYERS FUNDING? ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. AND FOR US, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SINGLE VERSUS MULTIFAMILY CALLS FOR SERVICE, THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING THAT'S EMERGENCY AND NON-EMERGENCY, YOU CAN SEE IN THE AGGREGATE THAT OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE VERY LOW, 25%, AND IN THE MULTIFAMILY TAKES OVER, IT'S 35%. BUT TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN IN A LITTLE REFRAME HOW WE LOOK AT THINGS, IF WE TAKE IT BY A PER 100 UNIT. SO DAUS, 100 PER 100, DAUS, WHETHER IT'S MULTIFAMILY OR SINGLE FAMILY, IT'S INTERESTING. AND THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT OF AN EYE OPENING THING FOR US. SINGLE FAMILY STARTS GOING UP OVER. IT'S BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS CALL US FOR A LOT OF STUFF, WHICH IS GREAT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. WE WANT YOU TO DO THAT. WE YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY BEFORE, PLEASE CALL US. PLEASE CALL US. PLEASE CALL US. SINGLE FAMILY HOME RESIDENTS DO THAT A LOT. AND SO THAT'S OKAY. AND AGAIN, WE WANT YOU TO DO THAT. THIS IS NOT TAKEN AS CRITICISM. JUST TRYING TO TRYING TO SHOW US DIFFERENT A DIFFERENT WAY TO LOOK AT THINGS. WE ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT FOR THIS DISCUSSION HOW DOES VITRUVIAN AREA R1B, WHICH INCLUDES ALL THE APARTMENTS AND THE COMMERCIAL DOWN THERE? HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO TWO B, WHICH IS PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY? IF WE LOOK AT IT IN THE TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A THIRD TWO THIRDS SPLIT. IT'S 500 FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY AND THEN IT'S 1400 FOR OUR MULTIFAMILY. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT AGAIN IN A DIFFERENT WAY, THE PER 100 DWELLING UNITS, IT GETS CLOSER TO BEING VERY EQUAL. AND AGAIN, THAT'S HOW ARE THE RESOURCES BEING CONSUMED? WHAT IT CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR US IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S IT ADDS TO IT DICTATES RESPONSE TIMES, IT DICTATES ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU AS A RESIDENT AND A VISITOR. BECAUSE WHEN YOU CALL FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU WANT US THERE. WE WANT US THERE IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY. AND SO, AGAIN, IT'S A RESOURCE ISSUE. SOMETHING ELSE I'D LIKE TO MENTION, TOO, IS FOR OUR OUR PURPOSES AND THE WAY WE COLLECT DATA AND HOW WE ANALYZE IT, THE TOWNHOMES WITH ARE INCLUDED WITHIN SINGLE FAMILY FOR OUR FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES BECAUSE THEY HAVE A STANDALONE ADDRESS. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE DO OUR NEIGHBORS, THE NATIONAL INSTANT BASE REPORTING THAT I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING, OUR CONDOS AND APARTMENTS THAT SHARE A MAIN ADDRESS AND HAVE APARTMENT OR SUITE NUMBERS, OR WE INCLUDE THOSE IN THE MULTIFAMILY. SO AVENTURA, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WE INCLUDE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES IN MULTIFAMILY. THE MULTIFAMILY TYPICALLY HAS A YOUNGER RESIDENT POPULATION, AS KENT ALLUDED TO. IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A VERY HIGH POPULATION OF YOUNG RESIDENTS AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE CALLS FROM US. THAT IS WHY OR A LOT OF THE CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THE AGGREGATE ARE HIGHER FOR MULTIFAMILY YOUNGER POPULATION, CALLING US FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. ALSO THE RESIDENTIAL, ESPECIALLY OUR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE ADDISON CIRCLE IS A BIG ONE. AND THEN ALSO VITRUVIAN IS THERE TOO, BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT LIKE THE COUPLE. THERE'S A BAR THERE AND THE DOG WALKING PLACE OR THE KENNEL, THOSE ARE SLIGHTLY INFLATED BECAUSE THE BUSINESS ADDRESS IS EMBEDDED WITHIN THAT ADDISON CIRCLE OR VITRUVIAN ADDRESS AND SO SLIGHTLY INFLATED ON THE MULTIFAMILY SIDE THAT ARE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AREAS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAND REMOVE THOSE BUSINESSES AND IT'S JUST NOT NOT NECESSARY FOR US MOST OF THE TIME. THERE'S ALSO ALSO A SMALL COMPONENT THAT INFLATES SOME OF THE MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AREAS BECAUSE REALLY ANY LOCATION, THE WAY WE TRACK AND THE NEIGHBORS ENVIRONMENT, HOW WE TRACK AND REPORT CRIME IN CERTAIN AREAS. IF AN OFFICER, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS A DWI AND THEY STOP IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX PARKING LOT, THEN THAT THAT CAN THAT CAN INFLATE THOSE NUMBERS FOR THAT LOCATION. SAME THING IF WE STOP ON YOUR ON A STREET AND FOR A BLOCK NUMBER OR A BUSINESS ADDRESS. SO A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE A LOT OF SELF INITIATED ACTIVITY. Y'ALL HAVE HEARD ME SPEAK BEFORE TOO ABOUT HOW MUCH WE PUSH OUR OFFICERS TO. IF YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING A CALL FOR SERVICE, WE EXPECT YOU TO BE PROACTIVELY PATROLLING YOUR DISTRICT'S RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL AREAS, LOOKING FOR BAD GUYS, YOU KNOW, DOING ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU EXPECT US TO DO. AND SO ANY TRAFFIC STOP THEY MAKE THAT RESULTS IN AN ARREST OR AN OFFENSE CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO AN ADDRESS SOMETIMES. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO WALK THROUGH AND FILTER. OH, I SEE. GO BACK. I WANT TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO TO EXPLAIN FOR I CONCLUDE THE COMMUNITY CRIME MAP WEBSITE THAT WE HAVE ADVERTISED. [00:45:03] IT START OFF. I WAS WHO WAS I WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY ABOUT THE RAIDS ON LINES WHAT WE USED TO CALL IT BACK IN ABOUT 2015 2016. WE FIRST STARTED IT. NOW IT'S LEXISNEXIS, PURCHASED THE COMPANY AND IT'S CALLED A COMMUNITY CRIME MAP. PEOPLE HAVE SHARED WITH ME SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT THEY SEE WHEN THEY PULL UP THAT WEBSITE TO SHOW OF HANDS. WHO'S DONE THAT? I LOOKED AT IT. IT'S A REALLY GOOD TOOL, BUT IT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING. SO I WANT TO KIND OF GO THROUGH BRIEFLY A COUPLE OF THINGS. NUMBER ONE, WE UPLOAD ALL OF OUR DATA THAT GENERATES A REPORT NUMBER. SO AN OFFICER ACTUALLY WROTE A REPORT. IT GETS UPLOADED AT 2:00 EVERY MORNING AND THEN IT POPULATES THAT DATA SET. LEXISNEXIS, WHO CONTROLS COMMUNITY CRIME MAPS DOT COM. THEY TAKE OUR DATA AND THEY PUT IT INTO THE CATEGORIES THAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR WEBSITE. SO AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS, FOR EXAMPLE, ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS, THERE'S 30 OR 40 DIFFERENT OFFENSES YOU CAN SELECT FROM. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE. AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO EXPLAIN. IT'S SUCH A COMPLEX ISSUE SOMETIMES BECAUSE THE WAY WE DO OUR JOBS, A POLICE OFFICER GOES TO A CALL FOR SERVICE. IT'S A IT CAN BE AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. WE GET THERE, A PERSON SAYS SOMEBODY ELSE ASSAULTED THEM AND THEY EITHER SHOWED A WEAPON OR HAD A WEAPON, BUT THE BAD GUY IS NOT THERE ANYMORE. WE HAVE TO WRITE EVERYTHING UP. THE WAY THEY EXPLAIN IT TO US. WE DON'T GET TO DOWNGRADE OR EMBELLISH IT, RIGHT. SO IT'LL GO INTO THAT SYSTEM, THAT INITIAL CAD REPORT NUMBER, AS AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. IT GETS OVER TO THE INVESTIGATORS. INVESTIGATORS LOOK AT IT, THEY TALK TO THE VICTIM. THEY EVEN MAYBE INTERVIEW THE BAD GUY OR THE SUSPECT. TURNS OUT THERE WASN'T A THERE WASN'T A WEAPON. AND NOW THEY START DOWNGRADING THAT OFFENSE TO A LESSER CHARGE, TYPICALLY EITHER SIMPLE ASSAULT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT IT STAYS IN THE COMMUNITY CRIME MAP WEBSITE AS THE ORIGINAL REPORTING CALL TYPE. RIGHT. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PEOPLE HAVE SHARED WITH ME SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE PRIVATE AREA. I THINK THERE WAS EIGHT AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS LISTED FOR A TIME PERIOD FROM DECEMBER OF 21 TO ROUGHLY DECEMBER 22. OF THOSE EIGHT AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS, WE LOOKED INTO THAT JUST TO KIND OF SEE FOR TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION. ONE WAS AN OFFICER WHO GOT BIT BY A PERSON IN THE BACK OF AN AMBULANCE. SO BAD, BAD DEAL. YES, IT'S PROBABLY AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, BUT GENERALLY DOESN'T CONCERN ANYBODY THAT LIVED THERE. SIX MORE HAPPENED TO BE EITHER DOMESTIC IN THE EXACT SAME SCENARIO I JUST DESCRIBED, WHERE IT WAS REPORTED THAT THE PERSON THAT ASSAULTED THE OTHER PERSON, NEITHER BRANDISHED A WEAPON, SAID THEY HAD A WEAPON, THAT KIND OF THING. AGAIN, IT CAN BE BETWEEN ROOMMATES, IT CAN BE BETWEEN HUSBAND AND WIFE, BOYFRIENDS, GIRLFRIENDS, THAT KIND OF THING. AND SO A MAJORITY OF THOSE EIGHT OTHER THAN ONE THAT HAPPENED TO BE A LEGITIMATE AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. SO SEVEN OF THE EIGHT WERE REALLY NOT WHAT THEY APPEAR TO BE. AND WE'VE STRUGGLED WITH THAT SINCE DAY ONE. I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CRIME DATA THAT YOU SEE, REACH OUT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. YOU CAN EMAIL MY POLICE CHIEF ADDRESS, THAT'S ON THE WEBSITE. AND WE WILL TRY TO DO OUR BEST TO ALLEVIATE YOUR CONCERN OR VALIDATE IT RIGHT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO NOT GOING TO HIDE FOR THE TRUTH. THE ONE THING IS JUST TO REMEMBER THAT THERE IS THERE IS CONTEXTUAL COMPONENT TO ALL THIS STUFF, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO BE MORE AND MORE DATA DRIVEN. IT'S BEEN MY GOAL SINCE DAY ONE TO BE A DATA DRIVEN POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE'VE EXPANDED OUR CAPABILITIES TREMENDOUSLY IN THAT FIELD. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT WITH MORE TECHNOLOGY AND MORE THINGS. THEY'LL HELP US DO IT IN A BETTER WAY. OUR GOAL IS ALSO TO BE VERY AS TRANSPARENT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AT ALL TIMES, AND THAT'S WHY WE USE COMMUNITY CRIME MAPS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING TO TRY TO OFFER THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, OUR COMMIT OUR COMMITMENT TO TRANSPARENCY AND MAKING SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. THERE'S MORE WORK TO DO IN THAT. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO FROM A SELF SERVICE STANDPOINT THAT WILL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO BE TRANSPARENT AND TELL PEOPLE WHAT'S GOING ON AND ALLEVIATE FEARS IF THERE'S CONCERNS. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO US AT ANY TIME. AGAIN, MY POLICE CHIEF EMAIL IS ON OUR WEBSITE. EMAIL ME. CALL MY OFFICE. I'LL DO MY BEST TO CALL YOU BACK IN A TIMELY MANNER. OTHER THAN THAT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE STEVEN GLICKMAN, OUR CFO. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS STEPHEN GLICKMAN. I'M THE TOWN'S CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, THEY USUALLY DON'T LET US FINANCE PEOPLE TALK TO SO MANY PEOPLE ALL AT ONCE. SO IF I MAKE IT THROUGH MY FIVE SLIDES AND NOBODY FALLS ASLEEP, I'LL THINK I DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB. SO. SO THE FIRST SLIDE I'M GOING TO START OUT WITH IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOW DURING OUR BUDGET PROCESS EVERY YEAR, AND THIS IS VERY UNIQUE TO ADDISON. SO THIS SHOWS WHAT OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE IN TOTAL IS, WHICH ARE TOTAL GENERAL FUND REVENUE FOR THE TOWN IS ABOUT $44 MILLION. ABOUT 8% OF THAT $44 MILLION, OR ABOUT 3.5 MILLION IS GENERATED FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX. [00:50:01] THE OTHER 92% IS GENERATED FROM PROPERTY TAX RELATED TO MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, SALES TAX, OTHER FEES AND TAXES THAT THE TOWN CHARGES. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, THE GENERAL FUND IS WHAT PAYS FOR OUR MOST BASIC SERVICES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, PARKS AND RECREATION, OUR ATHLETIC CLUB, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, STREETS, AND THEN THE GENERAL ADMINISTRATION OF THE TOWN. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE PROPERTY TAX PAYER DISTRIBUTION FOR THE TOWN OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. SO I THINK MOST OF US KNOW THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR PROPERTY TAX BASE IS RELATED TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. SO BACK IN 2021, ABOUT 63% OF THE TOTAL PROPERTY TAX DISTRIBUTION WAS RELATED TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. THAT DROPPED DOWN TO 62% IN 2022 AND THEN DOWN TO 60% IN 2023. NOW, SOME OF THAT DECREASE WAS RELATED TO COVID AS THERE'S BEEN HOTELS. THERE WEREN'T AS MANY FOLKS STAYING IN HOTELS IN THE TOWN. THERE WAS LESS OCCUPANCY IN SOME OF OUR OFFICE BUILDINGS. SO THAT'S WHY WE SAW A SLIGHT DECREASE IN THAT PERCENTAGE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ORANGE SLICE OF THAT PIE IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AND THAT STAYED STABLE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE MULTIFAMILY PORTION AND THAT PORTION INCREASED IN VALUE ABOUT 3% OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, IF THAT MULTIFAMILY PORTION FELL OFF OR STAYED EVEN OVER THOSE THREE YEARS, JUST LIKE THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES DID, THAT THAT PROPERTY TAX GENERATION WOULD NEED TO BE MADE UP SOMEWHERE OR THERE WOULD WOULD HAVE BEEN SERVICE CUTS THAT WOULD HAVE NEEDED TO BE MADE IN ONE OF THESE FISCAL YEAR BUDGETS. THE NEXT SLIDE COMPARES TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF MULTIFAMILY. SO WE CONSIDER URBAN MULTIFAMILY. THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WOULD HAVE A DENSITY OF 50 UNITS OR MORE PER ACRE. AND THEN SUBURBAN MULTIFAMILY IS THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WOULD HAVE LESS THAN 50 UNITS PER ACRE. SO IN TOTAL, URBAN MULTIFAMILY MAKES UP ABOUT 52% OF THE TOTAL MULTIFAMILY INVENTORY IN THE TOWN. AND THEN SUBURBAN MULTIFAMILY MAKES UP ABOUT 48% OF THE TOTAL MULTIFAMILY INVENTORY IN THE TOWN. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES GENERATE PROPERTY TAX, WE FOUND THAT ON THE URBAN MULTIFAMILY, THEY GENERATE ABOUT 167% MORE PROPERTY TAX THAN THE SUBURBAN MULTIFAMILY. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW THAT WHAT THE PER ACRE YIELD OF THAT PROPERTY TAX IS, ON AVERAGE, THESE SUBURBAN MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES GENERATE ALMOST 500% MORE IN PROPERTY TAX THAN THE SUBURBAN MULTIFAMILY, SO AT 473%. AND THIS IS A REALLY INTERESTING SLIDE. SO I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED AT THE HISTORY OF ALL THE EXISTING PROPERTIES THAT ARE THAT ARE IN VITRUVIAN, AND I WENT BACK AS FAR AS THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT WOULD GO, WHICH IS CURRENTLY 1999. SO THAT WAS AS FAR BACK AS THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAD RECORDS ON. SO WHEN I LOOKED AT THE EXISTING VALUES OF THOSE PROPERTIES IN VITRUVIAN, YOU CAN SEE THAT FROM 1999 TO ABOUT 2009, THEY STAYED RELATIVELY STABLE. SO ON AVERAGE THOSE PROPERTIES INCREASED IN VALUE ABOUT BY ABOUT 1.8% PER YEAR. IN 2010 IS WHEN REDEVELOPMENT STARTED IN THE FIRST OF THE NEW VITRUVIAN DEVELOPMENT CAME ONLINE. SO YOU CAN SEE DRAMATIC INCREASES IN TAXABLE VALUE OVER THE COURSE OF 2010 THROUGH THE CURRENT 2022. SO THAT THAT INCLUDES NOT ONLY THE NEW VALUE OF PROPERTIES, BUT WHAT WE FOUND IS FROM 2010 TO 2020 TO THE EXISTING PROPERTIES, THAT THAT DID NOT GET TORN DOWN AND REPLACED. THOSE INCREASED IN PROPERTY VALUE BY APPROXIMATELY 300% OVER THAT 13 YEAR PERIOD. AND THEN A LOOK AT DIFFERENT LAND USE ECONOMICS TAXABLE VALUE PER ACRE. SO THE OFFICE IN THE PARK, WHICH IS WHERE THE ADDISON TREEHOUSE IS, THAT CURRENTLY HAS A TAXABLE VALUE PER ACRE OF ABOUT 957,000. WHEN WE COMPARE THAT TO ELLEN ADDISON GROVE AT $17.6 MILLION AND THEN MILLENNIUM OFFICE PARK AT $25.1 MILLION. PRETTY, PRETTY DRASTIC DIFFERENCES THERE. SO OFFICE IN THE PARK ON AVERAGE PER ACRE WILL GENERATE JUST UNDER $6,000 IN PROPERTY TAX FOR THE TOWN. WHEN WE LOOK AT ADDISON GROVE, THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE ABOUT $105,000 PER ACRE IN PROPERTY TAX. AND THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT THE MILLENNIUM OFFICE, THAT GENERATES ABOUT 153,000 PER ACRE IN PROPERTY TAX. [00:55:03] THE REDEVELOPMENT OF OFFICE IN THE PARK IS ANTICIPATED TO MAKE THE TAXABLE VALUE PER ACRE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $12.5 MILLION PER ACRE, WHICH WOULD GENERATE ABOUT 70 $70,000 IN PROPERTY TAX PER YEAR. SO THAT'S ABOUT A 65% OR ALMOST 1,000% INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAX VALUE THAT'S GOING TO COME FROM THAT REDEVELOPMENT. AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO PASS IT BACK TO DAVID GAINES. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I NEED YOU TO DO A BETTER JOB OF SETTING EXPECTATIONS. I SAID ONE HOUR, AND IT'S 659. SO THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE FOR OUR PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION. MOVING FORWARD, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? WE HAVE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE AS OUR NEXT ONE OF OUR NEXT BIG PROJECTS FOR FOR THE TOWN WILL BE KICKING THAT OFF VERY SOON. AS YOU CAN SEE, AS YOU SAW IN KEN'S PRESENTATION, WE ARE WHO WE ARE TODAY FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. ONE MAJOR REASON IS THE PLANNING THAT WENT INTO INTO MAKING US WHO WE ARE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE 2020 VISION, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE 2013 PLAN, AS KEN SAID, THEY REALLY OUTLINED WHO WE ARE TODAY. SO WE HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THAT PLANNING STEP AS WE BEGIN THE PROCESS FOR A NEW PLAN IS A LONG PROCESS, BUT ONE THAT WILL INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, FROM FORMING A COMMITTEE TO HAVING MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. SO I'LL ENCOURAGE YOU AND I'LL CONTINUE TO SAY THIS OVER AND OVER, ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. WE WANT A WIDE ARRAY OF VARIETY OF FOLKS FROM THE COMMUNITY IN THAT PROCESS. AND THAT IS REALLY, AS WE LOOKED AT, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE, THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS GOING TO BE THE KEY COMPONENT OF OF HOW WE HOW WE LOOK TO WHERE THE TOWN GOES IN THE NEXT 30 YEARS. SO FROM HERE, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO TO QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. THIS IS NOT LIKE A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A THREE MINUTE STOP CLOCK TO WHAT TO TO TO THAT WAS BEEPING WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HIT 3 MINUTES. BUT I DO ASK FOR A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE, THAT WE KEEP THINGS CIVIL AND CORDIAL AS WE COME UP HERE. I THINK IN MY EXPERIENCE IN THE TOWN FOR A MONTH AND A HALF, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WILL BE THE CASE. EVERYONE I'VE MET ACROSS THE BOARD HAS BEEN VERY RESPECTFUL IN ALL THEIR COMMENTS, AND I ASK THAT YOU THAT YOU DO THAT AS WELL. I ASK THAT YOU STAY ON TOPIC. OBVIOUSLY THE TOPIC IS VERY BROAD AND THAT COULD TOUCH ON A LOT OF THINGS. BUT PLEASE TRY TO STAY ON TOPIC TO TO THE SUBJECT OF TONIGHT'S TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION AND TRY TO BE AS CONCISE AS POSSIBLE WHEN YOU COME UP, IF YOU'RE IF YOUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SAID BEFORE OR CERTAINLY IF YOU FEEL THEY NEED TO COME UP, CERTAINLY DO. BUT DO KEEP IN MIND THAT COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SAID IF THEY HAVE AND KEEP IT AS CONCISE AS POSSIBLE. SO WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL THAT WE HAVE FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE. I DO WANT TO AGAIN THANK ALL THE STAFF THAT WENT INTO THIS PRESENTATION, ALL THE STAFF THAT. ALL THE STAFF THAT WERE AVAILABLE BEFORE THE MEETING WITH THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS OUT THERE. WE HAVE MORE STAFF THAN JUST HERE. WE HAVE OUR TRAFFIC STAFF. WE HAVE PARK STAFF, WE HAVE FIRE STAFF. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF STAFF AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU ALL. MR. COLLINS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE THE FIRST ONE? YES. YEAH, I'VE JUST COME UP TO THE MIC AND YOU COULD QUEUE BEHIND HIM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY THOUGHTFUL PRESENTATION. IRMA PARK HAS TRAINED ME WELL WITH THE THREE MINUTE RULE. SO I THINK THAT WHATEVER I SAY TONIGHT WILL COMPLY WITH THAT, WHETHER YOU FORCE IT OR NOT. PART TWO IS MY WIFE AND I HAD A LITTLE BET. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE ABOUT 50 PEOPLE. SHE THOUGHT I'D BE WELL IN EXCESS OF 100. CLEARLY, SHE WON. CAN I TURN THIS AROUND? SURE. THANK YOU. SO I'VE GOT SOME PREPARED REMARKS. I WAS GOING TO MODIFY THEM BASED ON THE PRESENTATION, BUT I THINK I'LL GO WITH WHAT I'VE SAID IN WRITING. AND I KNOW OTHERS HAVE OTHER POINTS OF VIEW THAT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT. SO WHY ARE WE HERE TONIGHT? ONE OF THE REASONS IS TO DISCUSS HOUSING POLICY CLEARLY, BUT THE TRIGGER IS REALLY THE CONCERN BY THE RESIDENTS ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF MULTIFAMILY RENTALS VERSUS HOME OWNERSHIP. ADDISON IS OVER 80% RENTALS. WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS APPROVED. WE'RE HEADING TO 90%. THAT IS. I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ARGUABLY OUTSIDE OF MILITARY BASES. THAT'S THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF MULTIFAMILY RENTALS OF ANY MUNICIPALITY IN UNITED STATES. TO SAY THAT THE RESIDENTS OF ADDISON ARE AGAINST MULTIFAMILY IS IS JUST DISINGENUOUS. IT'S NOT TRUE. AND THAT COMMENT HAS BEEN MADE PERIODICALLY. [01:00:02] MANY OF US ARE AGAINST THE CONTINUING REZONING OF PROPERTY FROM NON MULTIFAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS CONCERN IS NOT NEW. IN 2017, A RESOLUTION WAS PASSED BY THE COUNCIL THAT READ IN PART APARTMENT ONLY REZONING IS UNLIKELY TO BE APPROVED. AS CURRENTLY, THE RATIO OF RENTAL TO OWNERSHIP PROPERTIES IS HIGHER THAN DESIRED, LEAVING THE ADDISON CIRCLE SILVER LINE PROJECT ASIDE, IN THE PAST NINE MONTHS, THE COUNCIL APPROVED REZONING TO ALLOW MULTIFAMILY, WHICH WILL RESULT IN APPROXIMATELY 800 NEW UNITS. AGAIN, REZONING. THIS IS NOT TAKING EXISTING MULTIFAMILY. THIS IS A REZONING. PROPONENTS OF THESE REZONING PROJECTS SAY THE MULTIFAMILY IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THESE PROPERTIES AND WILL RESULT IN INCREASED TAX BASE. AND YOU HEARD THAT TONIGHT. THE FIRST POINT OF VIEW OF BEING HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS DEBATABLE. WHILE THE TAX ISSUE IS BASED ON COMPARING PRIOR USE TO THE NEW MULTIFAMILY USE, BUT WOULDN'T OTHER NEWS IS ALSO RESULT IN AN INCREASED TAX BASE? MORE BROADLY, I ASK YOU, OUR TAXES ARE A DRIVER OF HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS IN ADDISON. AREN'T THERE BROADER QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES? THE COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED OVER 450 PETITIONS FROM RESIDENTS ASKING THE COUNCIL TO STOP APPROVING NEW MULTIFAMILY RENTAL PROJECTS. I SUSPECT THAT THIS IS THE HIGHEST RESPONSE OF ANY ISSUE IN THE HISTORY OF ADDISON. HOWEVER, I HAVE HEARD FROM SOME COUNCIL AND FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THEY WERE SIGNING OR THAT THE PROCESS MADE IT TOO EASY FOR THEM TO SIGN. FRANKLY, THIS IS CONDESCENDING AND BELITTLING TO THE RESIDENTS. FURTHER, IT APPEARS THAT SOME ON THE COUNCIL THINK THAT ALL WHO SIGNED THE PETITION WANT ONLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON SEPARATE LOTS. THIS IS FAR FROM ACCURATE. MANY PEOPLE ARE FINE WITH HIGHER DENSITY JUST IN THE FORM OF OWNED CONDOS OR TOWNHOMES. LIKE ANY COMPLEX ISSUE, THERE ARE SHADES OF GRAY. HOWEVER, PLEASE DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT OVER 400 SIGNERS ALL FELT STRONGLY ENOUGH TO TAKE A PUBLIC STAND AND PUT THEIR NAMES ON RECORD. I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK TO THE POINT NOTED EARLIER THAT ONE OF THE REASONS GIVEN FOR REZONING APPROVAL TO MULTIFAMILY USE WAS THAT MULTIFAMILY RENTAL WAS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE PROPERTIES AND THAT THERE WAS NO INTEREST BY FEE SIMPLE DEVELOPERS TO BUILD AN ADDISON. THAT'S AN INTERESTING COMMENT AND IT'S HARD TO DISPROVE, BUT THERE WERE THERE ARE NUMEROUS THREE SIMPLE TOWNHOME AND CONDO PROJECTS BEING BUILT IN COMMUNITIES AROUND ADDISON. MY VIEW. TRY HARDER. WE HAVE ARGUABLY THE BEST LOCATION IN NORTH TEXAS. COUNCIL AND STAFF IS PROPOSING UPDATING THE HOUSING POLICY AND I FIRMLY SUPPORT THAT INITIATIVE. HOW? HOWEVER, IN THE INTERIM, YOU NEED TO HAVE A SINGULAR FOCUS ON BEING MORE PROACTIVE IN CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT, INCLUDING INCENTIVES TO ENSURE THAT FREE, SIMPLE DEVELOPERS WANT TO DEVELOP IN ADDISON. AND YOU NEED TO HONOR THE DIRECTION OF MULTIFAMILY RENTALS, CLEARLY STATED BY THE RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. THIS IS A SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT ISSUE. OH, HARRY AND I LIVE IN GRAND EDISON, THE EDISON AIRPORT. I WONDER IF THAT'S PULLING ITS WEIGHT PER ACRE IN TERMS OF TAX REVENUE, IN TERMS OF TOTAL BUSINESS REVENUE AND EVERYTHING, AND WHETHER THAT CAN BE REDEPLOYED EITHER AS AN IMPROVED AIRPORT OR DIFFERENT DIFFERENT USE AND. SURE. WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE FROM THE AIRPORT HERE FOR SPECIFIC AIRPORT QUESTIONS. BUT WHAT I'LL SAY IS THE AIRPORT IS AN ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THE TOWN. SO IT IS A BIG PART OF WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND WE LOOK AT THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE THAT WE BRING IN AND THE VIBRANT COMMERCIAL ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HAVE, THE AIRPORT IS A LARGE PART OF THAT. BUT MY MY QUESTION IS SIMPLY, IS THIS A HOLY COW OR CAN THIS QUESTION BE INTELLIGENTLY? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE QUITE A FEW ACRES AND ALSO CHANGE THE CIRCULATION OF ADDISON. MY NAME IS TOM DONAHUE. I'M A TEN YEAR RESIDENT HERE. I LOVE ADDISON. THE PRESENTATIONS WERE SPECTACULAR, BY THE WAY. I HAVE TO SAY. UNFORTUNATELY, I HAD AN ENCOUNTER WITH ONE OF THE CHIEF'S EMPLOYEES, BUT HE JUST GAVE ME A WARNING. SO. SO I AM OF THE MINDSET THAT I LOVE OUR SERVICES, I LOVE OUR OUR CITY. [01:05:02] I AM JUST VERY CONCERNED ABOUT DENSITY AND TO HAVE MORE OWNERSHIP, JUST LIKE THE 2017 THING. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE MY BIG, BIG ISSUES. FOR THE MOST PART. THE CRIME AT THIS POINT IN TIME, YOU KNOW, SEEMS TO BE THE NUMBERS SEEM TO BE FAIRLY REASONABLE. BUT AS FAR AS APARTMENTS DROP OFF 20 YEARS FROM NOW, THAT PICTURE CHANGES, I BELIEVE, DRASTICALLY. BUT IT'S DENSITY AND OWNERSHIP, PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP. SO MY QUESTION IS, CAN WE JUST HAVE A MORATORIUM OR WHAT HAPPENS IF WE JUST DEVELOP OFFICE? IF IF THE ACTUAL DEVELOPERS WHO SEEM TO BE RUNNING THE EQUATION, IF THEY CAN'T MAKE IT WITH OWNERSHIP, EITHER CONDOS OR OWNERSHIP TOWN TOWNHOMES, WHAT IF WE JUST STOP AND JUST ADD THESE 800? WHAT HAPPENS? MAYBE. MAYBE OFFICE DEVELOPMENT. I'M NOT SAYING LEAVE THAT OUT OR RETAIL, BUT YES, WHAT HAPPENS? SURE, I'LL SPEAK TO IT TO A HIGH LEVEL AND CAN CAN COME UP HERE AND GIVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. IT DEPENDS ON THE TIME HORIZON YOU'RE TALKING IF YOU'RE TALKING A LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PIECES THAT KEN TALKED ABOUT WAS REDEVELOPMENT. I THINK GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE TOWN, REDEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE A BIG A BIG PIECE SO THAT WE KEEP AREAS VIBRANT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AREAS THAT NEED TO BE IMPROVED AND THEN WE HAVE THOSE REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND RESIDENTIAL IS GOING TO BE A PART OF THAT AS WE LOOK AT REDEVELOPMENT. SO OVER THE LONG TERM, ON THE SHORT TERM, THERE STILL CONCERNS WITH ANY KIND OF IF WE COME OUT AND SAY A MORATORIUM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THERE'S LEGAL CONCERNS. THERE'S CONCERNS WITH OUR PERCEPTION IN IN THE IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF CONCERNS TO THAT THAT ARE TRUE HESITATIONS. BUT CAN YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO ADD? YEAH, I GET IT. FROM THE DEVELOPER STANDPOINT, I TOTALLY GET THAT. I DON'T GET IT FROM THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM OR THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE. IT. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. IF WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL THAT COMPLIES AND IT'S COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, IF IT COMPLIES WITH THE LAND USE POLICIES OF THE TOWN AS STAFF, WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT THAT AND WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP IT BE SUCCESSFUL. THE VALUE PROPOSITION, THOUGH, TYPICALLY IS IF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HAS FAILED AND DECLINED, UNLESS IT'S IN A LOCATION IN TOWN WHERE REINVESTMENT IS GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND MARKET SUPPORTED, THE CHOICE IS LESS NEW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OR NEW COMMERCIAL RE-USE. IT'S LETTING THINGS JUST STAY AS THEY ARE. THAT IS A THAT IS A POLICY APPROACH. THERE ARE CITIES THAT HAVE SIMPLY TAKEN THE STANCE OF WE'RE NOT GOING TO REDEVELOP, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE AGGRESSIVE, AND THEY LET THINGS DECLINE. THE CHALLENGE WHEN YOU LET THINGS DECLINE. A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT AND WHAT THE CHIEF MENTIONED TODAY, WHEN YOU HAVE DECLINING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, NOT ONLY DOES IT IMPACT JUST THAT SITE, IT STARTS TO HAVE SPILLOVER IMPACTS. SO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S DECLINING CAN VERY QUICKLY LEAD TO MANY OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IN THE FORM OF CRIME. SO THE VALUE PROPOSITION IS, IS WHETHER YOU LIKE MULTIFAMILY LESS OR DECLINING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THAT IS IS SETTING A REALLY A BAD GATEWAY, A BAD FRONT DOOR TO ADDISON. SO THE SILVER LINE, LET'S JUST TAKE THAT PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED MONDAY OR I BELIEVE SUMMER. YEAH. YOU'RE SAYING IF THAT LAND DIDN'T GET DEVELOPED, THAT WOULD CAUSE TO MORE CRIME. SO THAT'S A VERY UNIQUE CONSIDERATION. KEEP IN MIND, THAT'S VACANT LAND. I THINK THE THING TO CONSIDER WITH THAT PROJECT. SO WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE A TREMENDOUS INVESTMENT FROM DART TO ESTABLISH A RAIL STATION. RAIL STATIONS HAVE A TON OF BENEFIT IN THE FORM OF PROVIDING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. THAT DOES NOT COME WITHOUT SOME NEGATIVE EXTERNALITIES. WE'VE ALL GONE TO TRANSIT STATIONS THAT LACKED VIBRANCY, THAT LACKED DEVELOPMENT, THAT LACKED A SENSE OF PLACE AND PRESENCE WHERE THEY VERY EASILY CAN FEEL UNSAFE AND VACANT. HAVING DEVELOPMENT, HAVING THAT AS A CENTER OF ACTIVITY FOR THE TOWN, WHICH IS WHAT A GOAL SHOULD BE FOR A TRANSIT STATION AREA THAT IS THE MOST URBAN LOCATION IN ADDISON, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THAT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND VIBRANT AND ACTIVE AND HAVING PEOPLE THERE NOT JUST DURING THE DAY FOR OFFICE AND EMPLOYMENT, BUT HAVING PEOPLE THERE AT NIGHT. SO IT'S NOT A PLACE WHERE IF ANY OF US IN THIS ROOM ARE WALKING IN THE EVENING, WE FEEL UNSAFE. [01:10:03] OKAY, I'M NOT GOING TO GET IN THE WEEDS WITH THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT OR OR THAT. BUT IF WE JUST FOCUS ON OFFICE AND RETAIL, HOW WOULD THAT WE'RE A TRIPLE RATED BOND OR TRIPLE-A RATED BOND CITY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE WHOLE TAXES, PROBABLY THE NATION. SO SO IF WE JUST FOCUS ON THE OFFICE SIDE OF IT OR RETAIL SIDE OF IT, HOW DOES THAT HURT US? I DON'T GET THAT. SEE, BECAUSE FOCUSING ON THE MULTI DEVELOPMENT SIDE DENSITY BECOMES AN ISSUE THAT BE IS ONE OF MY ISSUES. SO AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT RIGHT NOW. IT'S A COMPLEX QUESTION. IT'S A GREAT TOPIC THAT WILL BE RIGOROUSLY DISCUSSED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP ANY MORE. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST TO ADD ONE THING TO WHAT KEN SAID, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS. I THINK WHAT YOU SAW IN THE PRESENTATION WAS TRYING TO LAY OUT SOME OF THOSE POLITICS POLICY DECISIONS. IF YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE WE SAY THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. BUT WE'RE TRYING TO LAY OUT WHEN WE SAY HERE'S THE HERE'S THE TRUE FINANCIAL STATE, IS IF YOU SAW THE GRAPH THAT STEPHEN SHOWED AS OUR PROPERTY TAX FROM FROM RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SAY STEADY BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THAT INCREASE IN MULTIFAMILY. IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S VALUED VERSUS OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, THAT'S A VALUE PROPOSITION. IF IT'S NOT VALUE TO LOOK AT THE REDEVELOPMENT AND TRYING TO HIT SOME OF THE GOALS THAT KEN LAID OUT, THAT'S A VALUE PROPOSITION VERSUS WHAT YOU WOULD GO FORWARD WITH. SO GO FOR IT. MR. MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, WELCOME TO THE FORUM TONIGHT AND STAFF. I'M JAMES BURKE BURKHALTER. I LIVE AT 3824 WATERFORD DRIVE IN. ADDISON HAVE LIVED THERE SINCE 1993. I LOVE CITY OF ADDISON. BUT IT IS NOT THE SAME CITY THAT IT WAS IN 1993, WHICH YOU CAN EXPECT IT TO BE. I MEAN, WE'VE MOVED ON. BUT THE MAIN THING I WANT TO SAY TONIGHT IS NOT IN REGARD TO THIS FORUM THAT WE'RE HAVING. IT'S THAT I'M CLOSER TO 90 YEARS OLD THAN I AM TO 80. IF THAT TELLS YOU ANYTHING OR THE PROBLEM I'M HAVING IS I THINK ADHD REQUIRES A CITY. OR AN ENTITY OF ANY KIND TO HAVE FACILITIES FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN'T HEAR. I HAVE HEARING AIDS. I COULD ACHIEVE NO DISRESPECT. I COULDN'T HEAR A WORD YOU SAID. I'M SORRY. I APOLOGIZE FOR POINTING YOU. I COULDN'T HEAR ANYBODY. AND IT'S THE ONLY THING I GATHERED OUT OF THIS MEETING TONIGHT. IS THAT I HEARD NOTHING ABOUT TRAFFIC. ANYBODY THAT GOES DOWN MARSH OR MIDWAY AT 730 IN THE MORNING KNOWS THAT TRAFFIC IS JUST ATROCIOUS. AND COMING BACK SAME WAY. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I DIDN'T SEE ONE SLIDESHOW ABOUT TRAFFIC. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT CRIME. AND I UNDERSTAND CRIME IN VITRUVIAN CHIEF IS JUST TERRIBLE. AND I DON'T WANT IT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I ASSUME THAT APARTMENTS BRING CRIME. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR NOT. BUT I DON'T LIKE IT. AND ON THE OTHER HAND, MARY ROSENBLOOM, IF YOU COULD HAVE SOME KIND OF AUDIO FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OLDER LIKE ME TO HEAR, IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE HAD TROUBLE HEARING. LOOK HERE. I MEAN, THERE'S LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT AND YOU CAN'T HEAR THIS AUDIO HERE AND THE AUDIO IN THE OFFICE AND THE PARK IS TERRIBLE. AND I'VE TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER, WEST, NOT YOU. I'VE TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER. I'VE TALKED TO OTHERS ABOUT HAVING SOME KIND OF AUDIO IMPROVEMENT IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I CAN'T HEAR AND I HAVE HEARING AIDS AND IT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO THE OLDER PEOPLE. I'M SORRY. BUT TRAFFIC AND CRIME ARE THE TWO MAIN CONCERNS OF ME WITH THE MOORE APARTMENTS. [01:15:08] I UNDERSTAND VITRUVIAN IS ONLY, WHAT, 30% BUILT OUT? I DON'T KNOW. DOES ANYBODY KNOW? ANYBODY KNOW HOW TO, TOBY? SURELY SOMEBODY ON THE COUNCIL KNOWS. I MEAN, IF IT'S 30% BUILT OUT, THINK WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE TWO YEARS FROM NOW. IT'S GOING TO BE TERRIBLE FROM I GO DOWN MORE SOMETIMES AT 730 IN THE MORNING GOING SOUTH AND TRAFFIC IS STACKED ALL THE WAY BACK UP TO SPRING VALLEY. I THINK WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE WHEN YOU GET ANOTHER. WHAT, 40%? 50%? I DON'T KNOW. NOBODY SEEMS TO KNOW. DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW MUCH RETROUVENT IS BUILT OUT? NOW, THAT'S A HECK OF A LOT. ALL RIGHT. A COUNCIL MEMBER. I'LL TELL YOU. OR STAFF, SOMEBODY SHOULD KNOW. OKAY, SIR. SIR, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC. AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. SO REMEMBER THAT CENSUS DATA THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER. SO KEEP IT. KEEP IN MIND, ADDISON GREW BY 11,000 OVER 40 YEARS. I CAN'T EVEN HEAR YOU. THE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO FOR YOU, SIR. SO THE DFW REGION GREW BY 4 MILLION. I GOT IT, SIR. SIR. VITRUVIAN HAS A NUMBER OF PHASES LEFT. WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT. WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT PERCENTAGES. JUST PLEASE BE POLITE. I WILL IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BE POLITE. I JUST CAME HERE IF YOU NEED MONEY. I DONATE A HEARING AID FOR YOU. CAN I PERSONALLY? BUT YOU NEED HEARING AID. I HAVE HEARING AIDS. OKAY. JUST WEAR IT, PLEASE. BUT I STILL CAN'T HEAR BECAUSE THE AUDIO IN HERE IS TERRIBLE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. UH, SO REAL QUICK. YEAH. YEAH. I WANNA MAKE TWO POINTS BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT. WE KNOW THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TRAFFIC QUESTIONS. WE HAD A TRAFFIC SECTION OUT THERE. WE WERE TRYING NOT TO NOT HAVE THE INITIAL PRESENTATION BE TOO LONG. WE HAVE OUR CITY ENGINEER, OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS HERE TO ANSWER TRAFFIC QUESTIONS. IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTION TRAFFIC QUESTIONS, PLEASE BRING THEM UP. WE'LL BE READY TO ADDRESS THEM. I'M GOING TO EMPHASIZE AGAIN TO PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL IN YOUR COMMENTS AS YOU COME UP HERE AND IF WE WILL GUARD THOSE COMMENTS AS WE GO FORWARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HELLO, MY NAME IS TYLER SUMMERS. MY WIFE AND I LIVE ON WATERFORD DRIVE. BEEN HERE SINCE 2020. I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO AGAIN, THANK EVERYONE FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK GETTING TOGETHER TONIGHT AND TO BE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR SOME OF THE YOUNGER VOICES IN THE CITY. I AM A HOMEOWNER, BUT I ALSO AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF MORE APARTMENTS, INCREASED DENSITY, AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO GO UP NEAR THE NEW SILVER LINE AND HAVING A PROJECT. I'M A REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY, IS MY DAY JOB AND SO I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THESE ARGUMENTS AND AGREE WITH THE PROS OF DENSE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, IT'S BETTER FOR YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING HARD TIMES BUYING HOUSES. AND THE MAJORITY OF MY FRIENDS STILL LIVE IN APARTMENTS. AND THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEING BUILT IN ADDISON ARE NOT SLUMS. THESE ARE CLASS A BUILDINGS WHERE THE RENT IS USUALLY WELL OVER $2,000 MORE THAN I'M SURE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE MORTGAGES IN THIS ROOM. SO THINGS ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE NINETIES, BUT THAT'S NOT A BAD THING. SO I JUST WANT TO ECHO MY SUPPORT FOR THAT AND SAY I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE TOWN AND CONTINUING TO GIVE BACK AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THANKS. GOOD EVENING, DAVID. ROBERT JACOBY REEVE LANE. AS WE SPOKE EARLIER, I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU AND THE COUNCIL AND THE STAFF TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM TO COME UP WITH VERY CREATIVE CODE, ENFORCEMENT CODE, ENFORCEMENT FOR ALL THIS, ALL THESE APARTMENTS, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW APARTMENTS ARE GREAT WHEN THEY'RE FIRST BUILT, BUT THEN THEY DECLINE OVER A PERIOD OF 30 YEARS. SO WHETHER AS I MENTIONED, YOU, WE WE TAKE LESSONS LEARNED BY HIGHLAND PARK UNIVERSITY PARK, HOW THEY MANAGE IT, HOW TO HOW DO THE FOLKS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO MANAGE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE COME UP WITH VERY CREATIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT, EVEN OFFERING, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, BONDS ON THESE HOMES REQUIRE THE MANAGEMENT TO COME UP WITH BONDS TO FACILITATE A LOW CRIME ENVIRONMENT OR NOT HAVING CRAZY STUFF HANGING FROM THE BALCONIES AND WHAT HAVE YOU. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. [01:20:01] BUT CODE ENFORCEMENT, THANK YOU. IT. SURE. HI, EVERYBODY. I'M TYLER WRIGHT. YOU MAY KNOW ME FROM THE NEXT DOOR POST. YEAH, I, I. HOPEFULLY I'M NOT TOO SCARY. BUT ANYWAYS, AFTER REVIEWING THE MEETING AND ALL THE STUFF FROM THE TOWN WEBSITE, THE FAQ, I DO ECHO IN GENERAL MY SUPPORT FOR Y'ALL'S VISION, ESPECIALLY AS I'M AN ASPIRING HOMEOWNER, SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO STAY IN ADDISON FOR A VERY LONG TIME. I REALLY DO ENJOY THAT WHAT YOU HAVE PROPOSED SO FAR. TOTALLY SUPPORT IT. AS FAR AS THINGS I MIGHT WANT TO CONTINUALLY PUT SPECIAL INTEREST ON WOULD BE PUBLIC TRANSIT, WHICH IS DOING VERY WELL. AS FAR AS THE SILVER LINE DEVELOPMENT, I ASKED THAT THE TOWN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE THAT TAKES CARE OF A NUMBER OF OUR TRAFFIC CONCERNS, REDUCES IT. THE RIDERSHIP OF PUBLIC TRANSIT HELPS. I TAKE THE BUS HERE AND THERE. IT'S ONLY 15 MINUTES TO TARGET AND THAT INCLUDES THIS SIX MINUTE WALK ACROSS THE PARK I TAKE FROM MY APARTMENT. VERY PLEASANT EXPERIENCE OVERALL. RECOMMEND EVERYBODY GIVE IT A SHOT. IT REALLY DOES HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC. ADDITIONALLY TO I THINK MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE AFFORDABILITY OF HOUSING IS IS IMPORTANT HERE. THE OWNERSHIP IS GREAT. I THE FACT THAT THE RENTS ARE ABOVE TWO K IS A LITTLE SCARY FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S THE PRIMARY INCOME PER PERSON WHO JUST WANTS TO LIVE IN A DECENT PLACE. I DON'T NEED A LUXURY APARTMENT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER AFFORDABLE HOUSING JUST AS MUCH AS WE CONSIDER OTHER TYPES. I NEED TO RESEARCH THAT MORE. I'M SURE I'LL HAVE MORE TO SAY IN THE YEARS TO COME. AND THEN THAT'S I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT. BUT OVERALL, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ALL HAVE TO SAY. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE HOW THE VISION LAYS OUT AND HOPE I CAN AFFORD TO STAY HERE. THANK YOU. MY NAME'S DAVE CHASE. I LIVE IN THE AVENTURA CONDOMINIUMS, AND I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW THE TAX INCENTIVES THAT WERE GIVEN TO THE DEVELOPERS. HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS DID YOU GIVE FOR THE $480 MILLION SILVER LINE DEVELOPMENT? AND HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO BE BEFORE THE CITY REAPS THE BENEFITS OF AN INCREASED TAX BASE? CAN ANYBODY ADDRESS THAT? YES, WE WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN MOU WITH THE DEVELOPERS THAT LAYS OUT OUR INTENT AS WE GO FORWARD. WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE DEFINITIVE AGREEMENTS, WHICH IS THE NEXT STEP IN THAT PROCESS. SO WE DON'T HAVE CONCRETE INCENTIVES TO LAY OUT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN DESCRIBE WHAT'S IN THE MOU AT A HIGH LEVEL. I KNOW YOU ARE. ORLANDO, UH, OUR, UH, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WILL TOUCH ON THOSE. BUT I WANT TO AGAIN EMPHASIZE, THESE ARE PRELIMINARY, AND WE ARE NOT AT A POINT OF DEFINITIVE AGREEMENT. SO I'M GOING TO ASK THEM VERY BRIEFLY AT A HIGH LEVEL, GO OVER THOSE. BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO SPEND THIS TIME GETTING INTO THE DETAIL OF THAT. SO, ORLANDO, IF YOU'D LIKE TO QUICKLY GO OVER THEM. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ORLANDO CAMPOS. I AM THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM FOR THE TOWN OF MADISON. I'M ALSO A TAXPAYING RESIDENT HERE IN ADDISON AS WELL. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF OF WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS FOR THE SILVER LINE DEVELOPMENT. IT INCLUDES A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH INCLUDES MULTIFAMILY AS WELL AS OFFICE CONSTRUCTION. A PROPER PROJECT THIS LARGE OBVIOUSLY IS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT REQUIRES PUBLIC SUPPORT IN ORDER TO MAKE MAKE IT BECOME A REALITY. OUR FOCUS HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO CREATE A HIGH CLASS DEVELOPMENT AS PART OF THE SILVER LINE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WILL REQUIRE SOME PUBLIC SUPPORT. THERE IS A MIX OF INCENTIVES THAT HAVE BEEN OFFERED TO THE DEVELOPERS THAT WERE SELECTED FOR THIS PROJECT. NOTHING IS SPECIFIC RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT ENTERED INTO A SIGNED AGREEMENT WITH THEM. BUT SOME OTHER THINGS INCLUDE PARTICIPATION ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARKING GARAGE. WE ARE LOOKING AT SELLING SOME OF THE PROPERTIES TO THE OFFICE DEVELOPER, WHICH WILL BE COUNTED TOWARDS INCENTIVE. WE ARE LOOKING AT LONG TERM LEASES FOR THE MULTIFAMILY, LONG TERM LAND LEASES FOR THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AS AS WELL AS ALSO PARTICIPATING ON THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. AND SO SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS NOT VERY UNCOMMON FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES TO DO AS THEY DEVELOP TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY, KNOWING VERY WELL THAT THE LONG TERM IMPACT IN THAT COMMUNITY WILL BE VERY POSITIVE. ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION WHILE YOU'RE STILL UP THERE. THE CITY OBVIOUSLY HAS LOOKED AT WHAT IS THE BENEFIT THE CITY IS GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS SOMEWHERES IN THE FUTURE. [01:25:06] THIS TAX BASE HAS TO COME BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS AND HOPEFULLY EITHER LOWER TAXES OR BETTER BENEFITS. HAS THAT EVER BEEN ADDRESSED IN THIS PROPOSAL AS WE EVALUATE POTENTIAL PROJECTS FOR OR INCENTIVES FOR ANY PROJECT? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT IS WHAT IS THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR EVERY INCENTIVE THAT WE OFFER, NOT JUST FOR DEVELOPMENTS BUT ALSO FOR COMPANIES. AND SO WE'RE VERY KEEN AND DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY DOES EXPERIENCE A POSITIVE RETURN ON INVESTMENT. THANK YOU. SURE. YOU GOT IT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS KELLY HEINZERLING. MY HUSBAND DAN AND I LIVE ON WATERVIEW CIRCLE WITH OUR TWO DAUGHTERS. WE'VE BEEN ADDISON RESIDENTS SINCE 1999, AND OUR CHILDREN ATTENDED GEORGE BUSH AND STILL ARE IN DALLAS IZED SCHOOLS. WE'VE BEEN ACTIVE MEMBERS OF THE ADDISON COMMUNITY SINCE MOVING HERE AT THE TIME. WHEN WE MOVED TO ADDISON, ADDISON HAD A LARGE RENTAL POPULATION AND A SMALL HOMEOWNER POPULATION. WE KNEW THAT WE APPRECIATED IT AND THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY CRITICAL PART OF ADDISON'S SUCCESS. AND IT WAS PART OF WHY WE WANTED TO LIVE HERE. AND A REALLY GREAT CITY MANAGER WE HAD AT ONE POINT SAID SOMETHING THAT REALLY STUCK WITH ME, WHICH IS HAVING HOUSING THAT SUPPORTS PEOPLE AT EVERY STAGE OF LIFE, INCLUDING YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST STARTING OUT AND RETIREES WHO WANT TO DOWNSIZE. THAT'S A PART OF WHAT IS APPEALING ABOUT ADDISON TO THE PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO LIVE HERE AND. FOR THE FIRST FOUR YEARS THAT WE LIVED IN ADDISON, WE RENTED AN APARTMENT AT ADDISON CIRCLE. SO WE WERE PART OF THE CRIME AND TRAFFIC PROBLEM. SORRY ABOUT THAT, GUYS. YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE APARTMENTS ARE A VITAL PART OF OUR ADDISON COMMUNITY. THEY'RE PROVIDING TO THE TAX BASE. THEY'RE LIVING HERE, THEY'RE WORKING HERE. THEY'RE EATING AT OUR RESTAURANTS. THEY'RE OUT OF TOWN. FAMILY ARE STAYING AT OUR HOTELS. BECAUSE AT LEAST WHERE I LIVE, MY HOUSE IS NOT QUITE BIG ENOUGH FOR MY IN-LAWS. WHEN THEY VISIT, WE PUT THEM UP AT A HOTEL. SO WE LOVED LIVING AT THE CIRCLE. AND IT WAS FROM THERE THAT WE REALIZED THAT WE WANTED TO OWN A HOME AND RAISE A FAMILY HERE IN ADDISON. RENTAL UNITS ARE CRITICAL TO ENSURING THAT PEOPLE HAVE AN ENTRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S SO GREAT ABOUT ADDISON. SO MY PAPER STUCK TOGETHER. ALL RIGHT? BUT, I MEAN, THE APARTMENTS AND ALL OF THE VITALITY THAT THAT TAX BREAK SPRINGS IS PART OF WHAT MAKES ADDISON AN EXCELLENT PLACE TO LIVE. AND I'M SO SUPPORTIVE OF THE DIRECTION THAT OUR CURRENT LEADERSHIP IS TAKING US. AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PERSPECTIVE WAS HEARD AS WELL. SO WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE, MANY OF OUR FRIENDS WERE BUYING HOMES IN PLANO, FRISCO AND OTHER SUBURBS, AND THEY WERE BUYING MUCH, MUCH LARGER HOMES, LIKE TWICE OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE THAN WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET IN ADDISON FOR THE SAME PRICE. BUT WE WERE WILLING TO PAY THAT PREMIUM BECAUSE WE FELT WELCOME AND INCLUDED HERE EVEN AS APARTMENT OWNERS. AND WE WANTED TO STAY HERE. AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO RENT THESE APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BUY OUR HOUSES WHEN WE'RE READY TO DOWNSIZE, BECAUSE IF THEY FEEL WELCOME HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO STAY JUST LIKE WE DID. SO WE LOVE LIVING IN ADDISON AND RECOGNIZE THAT IT NEEDS TO EVOLVE AS NORTH TEXAS EVOLVES. ADDISON HAS CHANGED OVER TIME. WHEN WE MOVED HERE, OFFICE BUILDINGS WERE AT CAPACITY. RESTAURANTS WERE FULL FOR BREAKFAST, LUNCH AND DINNER, AND THERE WAS ALWAYS TRAFFIC AROUND THE STORES ON INWOOD AND AT THE HOTELS THAT ARE NOW CLOSED. AND THOSE SOURCES OF TAX REVENUE MADE ADDISON A VERY APPEALING PLACE FOR US TO BUY A HOUSE BECAUSE AS RESIDENTS WE GOT EXCELLENT MUNICIPAL SERVICES AT A VERY LOW COST. SO A LOT HAS CHANGED. THANK YOU. A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE 2003 WHEN WE BOUGHT AS OTHER CITIES ALLOWED ALCOHOL SALES, WE LOST ALL THAT DOMINANT POSITION IN THAT MARKET. YOU KNOW, HOTELS ARE MOVING NORTH, CONFERENCES ARE MOVING NORTH. WE NO LONGER ARE HAVING THAT REVENUE EITHER WITH CORPORATIONS MOVING AWAY FROM HEADQUARTERS MODELS AND LETTING PEOPLE WORK FROM HOME. I NOW WORK FROM HOME FULL TIME. IT'S GOING TO BE HARDER FOR ADDISON RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS TO STAY IN BUSINESS. ALL THAT'S GOING TO LEAD TO HIGHER PROPERTY TAXES FOR ADDISON HOMEOWNERS. IF OUR LEADERSHIP ISN'T CREATIVE ABOUT FIGURING OUT HOW TO REPLACE THOSE EMPTY SPACES AND MORE APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO DRIVE MORE REVENUE TO ADDISON BUSINESSES AND WITH PEOPLE ALL OVER THE NATION CHOOSING TO RELOCATE TO NORTH TEXAS. I DON'T KNOW WHY ADDISON WOULDN'T WANT TO BE A DESTINATION FOR THEM TO PUT DOWN ROOTS, WHETHER IT'S AN APARTMENT OR IN A HOUSE THAT YOU CAN BUY. [01:30:03] AND I DON'T SEE HOW THESE APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO ADD MORE TRAFFIC THAN WHAT WAS GENERATED ON INWOOD IN THE LIQUOR STORE DAYS OR THE CONFERENCES THAT WERE ALWAYS AT THE ADDISON CROWNE PLAZA, WHICH USED TO LIKE HAVE THESE DELICIOUS BARBECUE COOKOUTS WHEN I WAS TRYING TO DO MY MORNING RUN. THAT WAS VERY DISTRACTING. AND I JUST DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE CRIME WITH PEOPLE LIVING HERE INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY THAN WE DID WITH THOSE BUSINESSES. AND MAYBE THERE'S PEOPLE WHO KNOW THINGS THAT I DON'T, BUT I JUST DON'T SEE IT. AND I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR TOWN. SO THE ADDISON WE'VE LIVED IN IS ONE WHERE NIGHTLIFE AND YOUNG PEOPLE WERE ALWAYS PART OF WHAT MADE US AND SPECIAL. AND WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT OUR TOWN LEADERSHIP KNOWS THAT SOME RESIDENTS ARE REALLY IN FAVOR OF ENSURING THAT ADDISON HAS A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR A SUCCESSFUL FUTURE AND THAT THAT CAN INCLUDE HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS. WE RECOGNIZE THAT ADDITIONAL HOUSING IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL TO ADDISON SUCCESS, AND WE'RE READY TO BE HERE ANOTHER 25 YEARS. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS LINDA MUTURI. BEAR WITH ME. I DO NOT TALK IN FRONT OF PEOPLE, SO I WAS VERY MOTIVATED. YOU CAN SEE THAT I NEEDED TO DO THIS. I'VE LIVED IN ADDISON NOW FOR A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS AND CAME TO ADDISON BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IT WAS GOING TO BE A SAFE HAVEN FROM THINGS I HAD HEARD AND PEOPLE I'VE KNOWN THAT HAVE LIVED HERE. AND BUT OVER A PERIOD OF THIS TWO YEARS, YES, SOME BIG THINGS HAPPENED THAT CHANGED THE DYNAMICS. I EVEN WORKED IN ADDISON FOR A SHORT WHILE. THEN COVID HAPPENED AND COVID SEEMED TO CHANGE SEVERELY. SOME DYNAMICS WERE THAT THEY WERE BEGINNING TO HAPPEN OR NOT, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY HAS THEIR REASONS FOR ONE OR THE OTHER. BUT NOBODY REALLY TALKS ABOUT THE THE REALLY BIG PICTURE. AND UNDER SUPPORTING THINGS THAT PROBABLY THOSE 400 PLUS PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, AND MOST OF THEM ARE PROBABLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED IN DALLAS COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME AND HAVE WATCHED CHANGES TAKE PLACE IN DIFFERENT CORNERS. I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE I WAS THREE YEARS OLD. MY HUSBAND IS A FIRST RESPONDER OF DALLAS OF 40 YEARS. HE HAS SEEN THE CHANGE IN DALLAS AND WE WERE HOPING THAT ADDISON WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT DALLAS HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS AND GOOD AND BAD, BUT A LOT OF BAD HAS CHANGED IN LIVING CONDITIONS. AND WHAT DRIVES THAT AS IT DETERIORATES IS APARTMENTS. A LOT OF TIMES SOMETIMES IT'S HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS DETERIORATING. BUT MOST OF ALL, IT'LL BE THESE LITTLE CITIES THAT POP UP WITH APARTMENTS, SHOPPING, EATING. WE'VE WATCHED IT OVER OUR YEARS IN DALLAS, AND WE'VE WATCHED IT NOT BE MAINTAINED BY THIS CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT, FORCING THESE DEVELOPERS THAT COME IN, PUT A BUNCH OF MONEY IN AND MAKE A BUNCH OF MONEY, AND THEN THEY KIND OF GO AWAY AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THINGS START DECLINING AND THE THE POLICE, THE FIRE CAN'T KEEP UP. YOU'RE NOT ADDING TO THEM IN SUPPORTING TO MAKE SURE THE CRIME DOESN'T ESCALATE. I PERSONALLY KNOW PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN DALLAS COUNTY A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF HERE, BUT IN CARROLLTON THAT HAVE PULLED THEIR KIDS OUT OF VITRUVIAN, THAT THEY WANTED TO BE CLOSE TO MOM AND DAD AND THEY HAD TO MOVE THEM OUT BECAUSE THE CRIME GOT SO SCARY AND VITRUVIAN. SO THERE IS A REAL FEAR OF THINGS NOT BEING MONITORED, MAINTAIN, CONTROLLED WHEN YOU DO HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS. IT'S JUST A FACT. AND I THINK NO ONE EVER SITS DOWN AND EXPLAINS HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO REQUIRE THOSE APARTMENT COMPLEXES TO DO TO KEEP THEIR RESIDENTS SAFE? SO THEY DO WANT TO LIVE THERE A LONG TIME. AND IT'S NOT A TRANSIENT SYSTEM OF PEOPLE COMING AND GOING FOR SHORT PERIODS WHERE THE BULK OF THOSE PEOPLE, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK DRIVES THE FEAR OF IT NOT BEING MAINTAINED PROPERLY. HOMEOWNERS GENERALLY TAKE BETTER CARE OF THEIR SYSTEM. THEY GENERALLY, THE ONES THAT ARE VOTING BECAUSE THE OTHER PEOPLE DON'T SEEM TO THINK THAT THEY HAVE A SKIN IN THE GAME. SO WHY ISN'T THERE MORE AFFORDABLE OWNERSHIP OF APARTMENT LIKE BUILDINGS, CONDOS, WHATEVER? WHY IS IT THAT THE APARTMENT DWELLERS ARE PAYING ASTRONOMICAL RENTS AND SOMEONE WHO BUYS A HOME CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A LOWER MORTGAGE [01:35:03] THAN THE APARTMENT DWELLERS? SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT, IS THEY DON'T HAVE OWNERSHIP, THEY WON'T TAKE CARE OF IT. THE APARTMENT, THE PEOPLE WHO RUN APARTMENTS DON'T TAKE CARE OF THEM AND SUPPORT THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE. SURE. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND I DON'T. JUST TO MAKE I WANT TO MAKE ONE POINT. SOME OF THIS WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE PRESENTATION. WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FROM THE ONSET, WE HAVE OUR POLICIES AND THE BENCHMARKS THAT WE HOLD TO. BUT THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS, WE ARE WORKING TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPERS COMING IN AND ANYTHING THAT WE TAKE TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION IS AT HIGH QUALITY. SO I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THOSE HIGHER PRICES IN THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE HERE IS BECAUSE WE WORK WITH HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPERS THAT ARE BRINGING HIGH QUALITY PRODUCTS HERE. SO I THINK A NUMBER OF THE CONCERNS YOU RAISE ARE AT THAT POINT, HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE WE BRING THE BEST IF WE'RE WITH MULTIFAMILY, WE DO BRING THE BEST POSSIBLE MULTIFAMILY HERE, AND I THINK THAT'S REFLECTED IN SOME OF THE PROJECTS GOING ON. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE GATED OFF OR FENCED UP, BUT SOMETIMES IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN PROPERTY VALUES AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE COMPLEXES, I FEEL THAT THEY GET LEFT TO BE VERY VULNERABLE AND IN YOUNG PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE IN FOR WHEN THEY MOVE INTO THESE PLACES. AND WHEN I START SEEING ON NEXT DOOR YOUNG PEOPLE SCREAMING, WHAT'S GOING ON, THEN THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG. SOMEBODY IS NOT DOING SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN TO CONTROL THAT SITUATION THROUGH, YOU KNOW, POLICE CODE, ENFORCEMENT, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JOHN ENGLAND. I WASN'T GOING TO TALK, BUT I GUESS I'M ONE OF THESE APARTMENT DWELLERS AND I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS A CRIMINAL. I DON'T THINK I'M A CRIMINAL. BUT IF I AM, I'M SORRY. YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE TO YOU. I'VE LIVED IN MADISON THREE YEARS. I LIVE IN VITRUVIAN, AND I CAN TELL YOU THE TRIBUNE IN DATA AND I PLAY TENNIS DOWN AT BROOKHAVEN. THAT'S HOW I GOT TO VITRUVIAN, BECAUSE I SIGNED UP AND THEY SAID, HEY, THERE'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT DOWN THE STREET BECAUSE I MENTIONED I WAS IN TRANSITION. THAT'S HOW I GOT HERE. SO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ACROSS THE STREET, THERE'S MORE CRIME IN THAT OWN NEIGHBORHOOD THAN THERE IS IN VITRUVIAN. LOOK UP THE DATA, LOOK IT UP. IT'S A FACT. EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE WILL SAY THAT. VITRUVIAN WHAT? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FOUND REALLY NICE ABOUT VITRUVIAN ACTUALLY, IS I HEAR PEOPLE PEELING OUT AND STUFF ALL THE TIME AND I ALWAYS HEAR A SIREN RIGHT AFTER IT. SO IF THERE'S CRIME PROBLEMS, I'M NOT AWARE OF CRIME PROBLEMS IN VITRUVIAN. I FEEL COMPLETELY SAFE. I'M NOT AWARE OF IT. I'M NOT AWARE I LIVE THERE. I'M NOT AWARE OF IT. AND I ALWAYS AND AS I SAID, I ALWAYS HEAR A SIREN. IT'S ALWAYS RESPONDED TO. SO PLEASE DON'T I'M NOT BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO ANY OF YOU. DON'T TALK BACK TO ME. I ACTUALLY LOVE HER. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE PLEASE ALLOW THE SPEAKERS TO SPEAK WITHOUT ANY CORRESPONDENCE? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO WAS SEVERAL THINGS. I GREW UP IN NORTHEAST TARRANT COUNTY, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I DON'T RECOGNIZE. AND IT'S A MAJORITY OWNED AND IT'S A PART OF THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T EVEN RECOGNIZE THE TOWN THAT I GREW UP IN. I'M NOT GOING TO NAME IT, BUT IT'S THERE'S VERY LITTLE APARTMENTS IN NORTHEAST TARRANT COUNTY. THE CRIME IS THEY'VE DOUBLED THE YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T PLAN AHEAD LIKE THIS TOWN DOES. THEY DIDN'T PLAN 30 YEARS AHEAD. THEY TRIED TO STOP EVERY ROAD PROJECT THAT EVER WAS PROPOSED BECAUSE UNDER THE GUISE THAT YOU COULD STOP PEOPLE FROM MOVING TO TOWN IF YOU CONTROLLED THE ROADWAYS. SO YOU HAVE TWO LANE COUNTRY ROADS IN NORTHEAST TARRANT COUNTY. THEY NEVER BUILT AN ADEQUATE ROAD SYSTEM AND THE TRAFFIC OVER THERE IS UNBEARABLE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T PLAN AHEAD. SO TRYING TO RESTRICT IT TO OWNERS, IN ALL HONESTY, IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT DENSITY IN THIS COMMUNITY, THAT HORSE IS OUT OF THE BARN FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS. AND YOU YOU KNOW, I MOVED FROM LAS COLINAS. I'LL TRY TO WRAP UP QUICKLY. ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT LAS COLINAS HAS DONE IS THAT REINVIGORATED THE HOUSING STOCK IN LAS COLINAS IS THAT NEW APARTMENT, [01:40:03] HIGH DENSITY APARTMENT COMPLEXES WERE COMING IN AND THEY MADE EVERYBODY RAISE THEIR GAME. SO IF YOU TALK ABOUT MORATORIUMS AND TRYING TO SHUT IT DOWN AND PUT THE HORSE BACK IN THE BARN, IT'S REALLY COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. IT'S NOT GOING TO IT'S GOING TO LEAD TO OVERALL DECLINE IN THE NEXT 30 YEARS. AND I THINK THE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ONE THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT I SUPPORT, I THINK, REMOTE WORK. WHATEVER YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THAT'S A REALITY. I'VE BEEN REMOTE WORKING FOR A YEAR. I'M NEVER GOING BACK. SO I ACTUALLY LIVE IN MADISON. I WORK IN MADISON. THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED. I THINK WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE ECONOMY AND WITH THE INTEREST RATES AND EVERYTHING THEY HAVE BEEN, YOU'VE HAD ARTIFICIALLY LOW INTEREST RATES FOR 20 YEARS AND THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE BLED OUT OF THE SYSTEM AND THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE ABILITY TO TO BUY HOUSING. AND IF IT'S ALREADY HIGH AND YOU'RE GOING BACK TO WHAT IT WAS WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, WE HAD 10 TO 20% MORTGAGE RATES THERE. THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD TIMING THAT THIS IS BEING CONSIDERED. I HOPE THAT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS. WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF REMOTE LEARNING? WHERE DO WE SEE THAT GOING? BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON ON ON WHAT A COMMUNITY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. IT'S NEW YORK CITY IS LOSING TONS OF MONEY BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T COMING INTO THE TOWN ANYMORE. SO THAT'S JUST THE GIST OF MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANKS. HI. HELLO. WELCOME TO ADDISON. I'M VALERIE COLLINS. OH, HI, VALERIE. HI. HOW ARE YOU? ONE, FOUR, SIX, SIX, EIGHT. WAYSIDE COURT. I'M A MEMBER. OH, THANKS. THANKS. YOU COULDN'T HEAR THE LAST GUY HERE. I'M A MEMBER OF THE CITIZENS. EXCUSE ME. OF ADDISON, TEXAS, A GRASSROOTS GROUP THAT WAS RECENTLY FORMED. BECAUSE WE ALL LOVE ADDISON, AND WE WANT ADDISON TO CONTINUE TO BE A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. WE ARE ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO STOP APPROVING THE REZONING FOR MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT DEVELOPMENTS. WE'RE NOT AGAINST APARTMENTS. WE HAVE 13,000 APARTMENTS. SO NOBODY'S TELLING YOU THAT WE DON'T WANT APARTMENTS. WE HAVE ENOUGH APARTMENTS. WE NEED BALANCE IN ADDISON. WE NEED MORE FEE. SIMPLE. YOU KNOW, THE POLICE CHIEF, HE WASN'T VERY PREPARED. I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A REPORT ON CRIME. I DID MY OWN REPORT. I TOOK THE TIME TO ADD UP FOR A YEAR. WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN VITRUVIAN? AND IT'S NOT PRETTY. 374 INCIDENTS IN A YEAR VERSUS 35 IN THE ENTIRE LAY LAX AREA. IF ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS GO ON YAHOO! AND SEE VITRUVIAN REVIEWS, IT'S IT'S SCARY WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE. A LITTLE HISTORY. BACK IN THE DAY IN THE MID EIGHTIES, THERE WERE ONLY 144 HOMES IN EDISON. THE LAY LIKE AREA WAS VACANT LAND. CITY HALL KEPT TELLING RESIDENTS THAT IT COULD ONLY BE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND THAT FEE SIMPLE DEVELOPERS WERE NOT INTERESTED IN THE AREA. THEY WERE ONLY PUSHING FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. WELL, I GUESS THE HOME DEVELOPER SHOWED UP WITH A GREAT PLAN. THE LARGE LAKES AREA IS ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENTS IN NORTH TEXAS AT THE TIME. I GUESS CITY HALL HAD IT WRONG. THE COUNCIL WILL TELL YOU MULTIFAMILY AND DENSITY IS GREAT FOR THE TAX BASE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IT BRINGS US EXTRA MONEY. WELL, IT IS ALSO COSTLY. HOW MANY MORE POLICE FIRE EMTS DO WE NEED TO HIRE? HOW MANY MORE PENSIONS WILL WE NEED TO SUPPORT? SERVICES, EXTRA COSTS, ROADS, UPKEEP? ALL OF THAT COMES ALONG WITH THE EXTRA DEVELOPMENTS. HIGH DENSITY. WE'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO STOP APPROVING MULTIFAMILY. WE'VE HAD 455 RESIDENTS ASSIGNED SO FAR. [01:45:01] A FEW CURRENT AND FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS ACTUALLY IMPLIED THAT THE RESIDENTS INSIDE OUR PETITION DID NOT KNOW WHAT THEY WERE SIGNING. DO YOU THINK YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ? ARE THEY CALLING YOU STUPID? THEY'RE NOT LISTENING TO US. HOPEFULLY WE'LL CONTINUE TO GET MORE SIGNATURES AND MAYBE YOU'LL START LISTENING. THANK YOU. SORRY, I'M GOING TO POINT SO I DON'T GET NERVOUS. I'VE LIVED IN SO MANY DIFFERENT COUNTRIES IN THIS WORLD. OH, SORRY. MY NAME IS JESSICA BRIGGS, NEWLY MARRIED IN THE SPECTRUM AREA. I OWN A TOWN HOME WITH ME AND MY HUSBAND AND OUR LITTLE BORDER COLLIE. I'VE LIVED ALL OVER THIS WORLD. MANY HIGH DENSITY AREAS. AND THAT IS A FACT OF LIFE. THAT CRIME IS GOING TO HAPPEN. NOW, HAVING LIVED IN OAK LAWN AND THEN ESCAPING OAK LAWN WHERE I WAS THERE IN A CONDO AND MOVING UP HERE, I'VE NEVER BEEN SAFER. THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME. WHEN I SAW THE DEVELOPMENT COMING UP BESIDE THE SILVER LINE. AT FIRST I WAS EXCITED. THEN I SAW THE RENDERINGS. I SAW THIS BIG BEHEMOTH, ALMOST DEATH STAR LIKE PROJECT GETTING DEVELOPED THERE. WE HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL PARK THAT YOU WANT TO PUT A DEATH STAR RIGHT THERE, TAKING UP ALL OF THE ROOM, BLOCKING OUT SUNLIGHT AND RUINING THE ATMOSPHERE. MY CONCERN WITH THE APARTMENTS AND WITH ANY OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, EVEN THE APARTMENTS THAT EXIST NOW, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. I LIKE THE APARTMENTS. THAT'S HOW I GOT MY START. THAT'S HOW ME AND MY HUSBAND BOUGHT BOTH OF OUR HOMES. AS IS BEING ABLE TO SAVE CHEAPLY AND GET INTO THOSE HOMES. BUT WE HAD TO FIGHT TO GET INTO ADDISON. WE HAD FOUR OTHER BUYERS TRYING TO GO FOR THE SAME TOWNHOME THAT WE ENDED UP WINNING AND WE HAD TO DO IT OVER COST. SO THERE IS A DEMAND FOR FAMILIES TO GET THE HOMES, SO REDEVELOPING LAND INTO MORE MULTI-USE FROM OTHER OPTIONS. I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED SINGLE FAMILY, BUT HAVING THE ABILITY TO BUY THOSE CONDOS FOR THE ASPIRING PERSON ASPIRING FAMILIES IS ONE OF MY CONCERNS. IF WE SELL ONLY APARTMENTS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY FACILITIES FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO BUY INTO THE COMMUNITY. BUT THE REALLY THE BIGGEST ONE FOR ME IS THAT THESE APARTMENTS, THERE'S NO REGULATIONS TO THEM. I'VE HAD SO MANY FRIENDS LEAVE ADDISON BECAUSE THE EXISTING APARTMENTS HAVE ROACHES, THEY HAVE RATS. THESE HAVE BEEN REASONS THAT THESE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN ADDISON ARE NOW LEAVING FOR LAS COLINAS AND THEN COMMUTING BACK INTO ADDISON. SO THEY'RE ESCAPING THE PROBLEMS OF THESE APARTMENTS. AND IF YOU WANT TO DEVELOP APARTMENTS, THE REAL MY REAL QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU MANAGE THESE APARTMENTS? HOW DO YOU KEEP THESE DEVELOPERS FROM ABANDONING? BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND YOU TRY TO CHOOSE A GOOD DEVELOPER, BUT A LOT OF THESE DEVELOPERS SAY PRETTY WORDS AND MAKE BIG PROMISES. AND AT THE END OF THOSE 30 YEARS, THEY DISAPPEAR. I'VE LOOKED AT ADDISON GROVE. I LOOK TO BUY THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF BAD CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY POINTED OUT ON OUR TOUR. THEY FIXED AND THEY SOLD IT ANYWAYS. SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE DELAYED THEM THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE FIXED PROPERLY. THEY PUT PLASTER OVER IT AND THEY'RE SELLING ANYWAYS. SO THESE DEVELOPERS ARE LYING, THEY'RE HIDING THINGS, THE BUILDING THINGS, AND THEY'RE. SO HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN STANDARDS AS WE GROW? THAT IS MY CONCERN IS IS THE DOG CRAP, THE OVERFILLING TRASH, THE BREAKING OF LIGHTS AND TREES AND LIGHT POLES THAT I'VE SEEN DOWN PLACES AND NOT GETTING REPAIRED. THE APARTMENTS DEGRADING IN VALUE AND IN IN QUALITY. THAT IS MY CONCERN IS IS THE HIGH DENSITY FINE? GIVE ME SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR TOWNHOMES. FINE. BUT HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN THAT QUALITY? THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE WHEN YOU REDO YOUR YOUR HOUSING PLANS. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS KAREN BERTO. I'VE LIVED IN ADDISON IN THE CIRCLE NOW EIGHT YEARS. PRIOR TO THIS, WE LIVED FOR 30 YEARS IN PLANO. SO I HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN COLLIN COUNTY AND THE GROWTH UP THERE. [01:50:05] AND IT'S VERY DIFFERENT. MY HUSBAND AND I RETIRED, WE DOWNSIZED AND WE MOVED HERE AS EMPTY NESTERS. WE LOVE ADDISON. IT'S WE CALL IT THE OASIS IN DALLAS COUNTY. YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE ACCESS TO DALLAS EVENTS AND RESTAURANTS AND ALL THAT'S GOING ON OR UP IN COLLIN COUNTY. AND YET YOU'VE GOT THIS BEAUTIFUL TREE, VERY WELL RUN, VERY SAFE PLACE TO LIVE. AND WE LOVE IT. WE LOVE IT. KUDOS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND I WILL AGREE THAT WHENEVER THERE'S SOME KIND OF NOISE OR DISTURBANCE, THERE'S USUALLY A SIREN REALLY QUICKLY PAST THAT. BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT THE APARTMENTS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDISON LIVING IN LIVING IN THE CIRCLE. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THESE APARTMENTS COMING, BUT I THINK IT BEHOOVES THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY TO INCREASE THE QUALITY THAT'S REQUIRED. AND I'VE SEEN IT DONE. WE HAVE TWO GRANDCHILDREN THAT I HAVE RENTED, ONE THAT LIVES IN THE METROPLEX. FIRST THING WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL PARKS, LOVE IT, LOVE THE GREEN SPACES, LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU CAN GO OUT AND WALK AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND NIGHT AND IT'S SAFE, BUT YOU CAN'T GO AT NIGHT ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S COVERED IN DOG FECES COVERED. AND WE GOT THE CUTESY LITTLE SIGNS ABOUT PICK UP YOUR POOP, ETC. ENOUGH. YOU'RE PUTTING IN ALL THESE HUNDREDS OF APARTMENTS RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE GEM OF ADDISON CIRCLE, WHICH IS THE PARK. IT WILL NOT BE USABLE ANYMORE. YOU CANNOT GO SIT THERE. YOU CANNOT TAKE A CHILD THERE. YOU CANNOT WALK YOURSELF. YOU CANNOT DO ALL THE OTHER ACTIVITIES. I FEEL FOR THE ADDISON PARKS PEOPLE TO HAVE TO CLEAN THAT UP BEFORE EVERY EVENT. SO WHAT ARE SOME SOLUTIONS? I'M HERE FOR SOME SOLUTIONS. IF YOU LOOK UP TO AUSTIN RANCH, EVERY TENANT MUST GIVE A POOP SAMPLE. IF THEY HAVE A DOG, DNA IS DONE AND HEAVY, HEAVY FINES ARE LEVIED TO THE OWNER OF THAT DOG. YOU LAUGH, BUT IT IS A HEALTH PROBLEM. IT IS AN ISSUE. IT IS A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE. SO WHERE WE NEED WHETHER IT'S DOG LICENSING AND THAT EVERY TENANT NEEDS A LICENSE AND DO IT VIA THE CITY OR REQUIRED OF THE TENANTS, I DON'T KNOW. BUT IT'S GETTING WORSE. AND WITH ALL THOSE EXTRA, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE SECOND CODE ENFORCEMENT, BOTH WITH BUILDING AND AFTER WE HAD A HORRIFIC FIRE IN THE CIRCLE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. WHY? BECAUSE THAT APARTMENT'S SMOKE DETECTORS AND FIRE ALARMS WERE TURNED OFF. I CREDIT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR AN AMAZING JOB, BUT THAT COULD HAVE SPREAD TO OUR HOMES. NOT TO MENTION THOSE OF US LIVING IN THE CIRCLE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT. WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THERE WAS NOT LOSS OF LIFE OR LOSS OF PETS. BUT WHERE WAS WE NEED BETTER CODE ENFORCEMENT. THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED. WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS A SPRINKLER ISSUE AFTER THE BIG FREEZE. AGREED, BUT WHY WAS THAT LEFT TO HAPPEN? SECOND OF ALL, ALLEGRO, THE BEAUTIFUL, COMPLEX, BEAUTIFUL APARTMENT BUILDING. THE EXTERNAL WALLS FELL OFF THE APARTMENT. THEY ALL HAD TO BE REBUILT. WHY WAS THAT ALLOWED? SO THOSE ARE SOME QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR THE CITY THAT NEED TO DO BETTER. IF YOU WANT US TO AGREE. THIRD OF ALL, EMILY, MY KIDS WILL NOT RENT FOR FAMILY. THEY ARE TENEMENTS. THAT'S WHAT THEY BECOME AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS THAT ARE NOT MAINTAINED. THEY ARE BUILT POORLY. THEY'VE GOT THIN WALLS. SO HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. AND I DON'T WANT ADDISON TO BECOME LIKE ALL THESE OTHER APARTMENT AREAS WHERE IT JUST COLLAPSES AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND IT COLLAPSES. SECOND OF ALL, AND LAST, THERE IS A COST. AND IT'S A COST. THE QUANTITY, QUALITY OF LIFE, NOT THE TAX DOLLARS, ETC.. THE CRIME STATISTICS I LIVE IN BETWEEN MAY AND ALLEGRO. THERE IS NOT A NIGHT THAT DOESN'T GO BY THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE NOT AT THEIR FALSE ALARMS. I HOPE YOU'RE I HOPE THAT THERE ARE VERY STRONG PENALTIES FOR THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES. [01:55:08] THEIR ALARMS GO OFF EVERY SINGLE NIGHT AND THERE'S SOMEONE GOING DOWN THERE EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. ARE WE PAYING FOR THAT? I WANT THE POLICE AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO BE FOCUSED ON REAL CRIME AND REAL ISSUES, NOT ALL THESE FALSE ALARMS. SECOND OF ALL, TRAFFIC. THERE'S THE TRAFFIC. THEN THERE'S THE SPEEDING. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE RACING DOWN THROUGH THERE. AND I CAN TELL YOU IT ISN'T THE HOMEOWNERS. AND THIRD IS TRASH. I LIVE IN THE CONDO AREA. WE PAY FOR OUR TRASH PICKUP. BUT YOU CAN BET ON THOSE APARTMENTS WITH THE PEOPLE COMING EVERY YEAR TO TWO YEARS ON LEASES. THEY TOSS THEIR FURNITURE, IT'S TOSSED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. IT'S TOSSED IN THE IN THE ON THE SIDEWALKS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THIS IS A DONE DEAL, WHICH IT APPEARS TO BE FOR THE CIRCLE THAT WE LOOK AT SOME OF THESE ISSUES IN THE QUALITY OF THE LIFE. BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES OVERALL, AND IT WILL ACTUALLY BE BETTER FOR THOSE TENANTS THAT WANT THE SAME QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE HAVE. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS SUNNY. SCREAMO. THIS IS MY FIRST TOWN MEETING. BUT I'VE LIVED HERE FOR FOUR YEARS. I MOVED HERE FROM MARYLAND. I AS I SAID, I LIVE HERE. I LIVE ON THE VITRUVIAN. I WORK AT A RESTAURANT HERE IN ADDISON AS WELL. I JUST WANTED TO BE A VOICE FOR THE YOUNGER PEOPLE AND SAY, I LOVE LIVING HERE. I DO. I DO NOTICE, HOWEVER, ALL OF THE APARTMENTS GOING UP ARE TENDING TO HEAD TOWARDS HIGHER RENT AND RENT PRICES. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT ARE GOING UP, THEY'RE NOT BAD PLACES. THEY'RE NOT REALLY AFFORDABLE PLACES FOR A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE TO LIVE. IT'S EVEN A STRETCH FOR ME. THAT BEING SAID, LIVING ON THE VITRUVIAN AND FOR FOUR YEARS, I ALSO KNOW THE CRIME THAT'S GOING ON THERE. AND I THINK A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE BEING SAID ARE A LITTLE BIT OF A STRETCH AND A LITTLE BIT OFFENSIVE. TO BE HONEST, I'M REALLY NOT SURE WHAT ELSE TO SAY. IT'S JUST TO ME, IF YOU KNOCK DOWN, LET'S SAY THE OLDEST NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE VITRUVIAN IS ADDISON APARTMENTS AT THE PARK, BUT YOU DON'T WANT ANY MORE APARTMENTS. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THERE? A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. NOBODY WANTS TO BUY THAT. NOBODY WANTS THE THEORY LOOKING OVER THEIR SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT THEY PAID, WHAT, $2 MILLION FOR FOR THAT LAND. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO SAY NO MORE APARTMENTS, BECAUSE ONCE, ONCE PROPERTIES LIKE ADDISON APARTMENTS AT THE PARK DO GET KNOCKED DOWN. AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE RELATIVELY NEAR FUTURE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE VACANT LAND THAT NOBODY IS GOING TO WANT TO DEVELOP BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT AN APARTMENT THERE. THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. AND I WILL ALSO SAY THAT BEFORE TONIGHT, I TRULY DID FEEL WELCOME IN THIS TOWN. BUT A LOT OF THE THINGS I'VE SEEN AND HEARD TONIGHT, IT'S A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING. I WILL BE HONEST. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. UH, HI. MY NAME IS IAN EMERSON. I LIVE RIGHT HERE IN THE ADDISON CIRCLE. I JUST. I HAVE TWO THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP. THE FIRST ONE IS THAT I THINK THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT THE ADDISON CIRCLE IS AND THE PLANS THAT ARE IN PLACE FOR THE ADDISON CIRCLE ARE EXCELLENT. I THINK THAT DENSE, WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE IN VERY SCARCE DEMAND OR ARE VERY SCARCE RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS SORELY LACKING SPECIFICALLY IN THE DFW AREA. AND I LOVE BEING ABLE TO GO OUT OF MY APARTMENT AND WALK AROUND AND APPRECIATE THE BEAUTIFUL PARKS WE HAVE, OR GO GET SUSHI OR GET SOME PIZZA FROM ACROSS THE STREET. I THINK THOSE THINGS ARE GREAT. I DON'T HAVE TO GET IN MY CAR TO DRIVE TO GO DO THOSE THINGS. AND THAT'S AMAZING. AND I THINK THAT THE ADDISON CIRCLE OFFERS THAT IN A VERY UNIQUE WAY THAT MOST PLACES IN DFW DO NOT. AND SO I JUST WANT TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THE ADDISON CIRCLE AND ALL OF THE DENSE PLANNING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP HERE AND THE FUTURE PLANS. I'M VERY IN SUPPORT OF THAT. I THINK THAT WE COULD USE MORE OF THAT. I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT UP SIMILAR THINGS AS WELL AS DISSENTING OPINIONS. AND THE OTHER QUICK THING I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS MY SUPPORT FOR THE SILVER LINE AND THE PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM. [02:00:01] WE HAVE THE ADDISON TRANSIT CENTER. ONCE THE SILVER LINE IS COMPLETED, THAT WILL TAKE ME STRAIGHT TO MY JOB. I WORK AT THE CYPRESS WATERS DISTRICT. IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION OFFICE PARK IN COPPELL. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A DART STATION RIGHT THERE THAT IT'LL BE LIKE TWO STOPS FROM THE TRANSIT CENTER WE HAVE. AND SO I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THAT. I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THE FUTURE OF ADDISON, THE TOWN, AS WELL AS SPECIFICALLY THE ADDISON CIRCLE. AND YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I THINK THE PLANS THAT WERE SHOWN HERE, I AGREE WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT. I THINK IT'S VERY GOOD. AND I SUPPORT DENSITY AND I SUPPORT HIGH I SUPPORT WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE WELCOMING ENVIRONMENTS SUCH AS THE ADDISON CIRCLE. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. YOU FOR. MY NAME IS PAM KRUGER AND I'VE LIVED IN ADDISON FOR OVER 30 YEARS. 1992. I'VE SERVED ON THE BOND COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY, AND I'M A REALTOR IN DALLAS. AND WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ARE PROPERTY VALUES. I'VE GONE DOWN TO THE TAX AUTHORITY, AND I'VE FOUGHT MY MY TAX COSTS AND WON EVERY TIME. BUT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE THE DAMAGE THAT APARTMENTS HAVING SO MANY APARTMENTS WILL BRING TO OUR OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. I WAS PRO FOR THE SAMS PROJECT. I LIKED THE IDEA OF THE APARTMENTS ON THE BELTLINE SIDE AND THE CONDOS OR TOWNHOMES ON THE BACK SIDE BEING A HIGH DOLLAR RENTAL. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO I'M SORRY FOR THE YOUNGER PEOPLE THAT ARE STRETCHED, BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE A HIGH DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THE RENTALS BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BRING THE QUALITY OF PERSON TO OUR CITY THAT ARE GOING TO SHOP IN THE STORES THAT WE HAVE AND EAT AT THE RESTAURANTS THAT WE WE HAVE TO OFFER. SO PROPERTY VALUES IS MY BIG CONCERN. AND I FEEL LIKE IF WE HAVE LAND, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF LAND. WE NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE USE THAT LAND AND NOT BE IN A HURRY. WE NEED TO GET THE RIGHT PROJECTS AND WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR PROPERTY VALUES. FOR THE HOMEOWNERS, IT SEEMS AFTER YOUR PRESENTATION, IT'S A VERY SMALL PORTION, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE BRINGING A LOT OF MONEY TO THE CITY. AND YOU KNOW, OUR HOMEOWNERS ARE IMPORTANT TO. I TRY TO BRING PEOPLE UP HERE ALL THE TIME FROM PARK CITY'S AREA TO SELL HOUSES TO. AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST DRAWS ARE THE SERVICES. IT'S LIKE A LITTLE HIGHLAND PARK. I GREW UP IN HIGHLAND PARK. IT'S LIKE A LITTLE NORTH DALLAS, HIGHLAND PARK AND THE PARKS, THE WORKOUT FACILITY, THE TRAILS, THE THE WAY PEOPLE TAKE CARE OF THEIR HOMES IN THE AREA. I ALSO SOLD A GREAT TOWNHOME OVER OFF OF BELLBROOK CELESTIAL AREA, GREAT PRODUCT. I COMPARED THAT TO THE ADDISON CIRCLE. IT WAS A TWO STORY TOWNHOME. INSTEAD OF THE THREE OR FOUR STORY TOWNHOMES, WE NEED MORE PRODUCT LIKE THAT. AND I THINK IF YOU COULD FOCUS MORE ON TOWNHOMES, NOTHING AGAINST APARTMENT DWELLERS, WE JUST HAVE ENOUGH. WE NEED TO REALLY FOCUS OUR EFFORTS ON GETTING MORE HOMEOWNERS TAX PAYERS THAT ARE GOING TO LIVE IN THE AREA INDEFINITELY. GOT IT. HI, ANGELA. BRODERICK DONAHUE ON MEADOW CREEK CIRCLE. LIKE THE LADY BEFORE ME. I AGREE WITH THE PROPERTY TAX ISSUE AND CONCERNS ABOUT THAT MOVING FORWARDS OVER THE YEARS. BUT MY QUESTION IS, I THINK VALERIE SAID THERE WERE 13,000 APARTMENTS IN THE AREA. SO HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE CURRENTLY OCCUPIED? WHAT IS THE VACANCY RATE? AND ALSO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE MULTI USE BUILDINGS AND WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IN STOREFRONT PROPERTIES. BUT A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH ADDISON CIRCLE, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER PLACES, SOME OF THOSE ARE VACANT FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME. AND I'VE LIVED IN ADDISON TEN GOING ON TEN YEARS AND, YOU KNOW, TWO TIMES LIVING IN ADDISON AND LIVING IN APARTMENTS JUST SOUTH OF ADDISON AND NOW OWNING A HOME IN ADDISON. I HAVE A BROTHER WHO IS IN AN APARTMENT IN ADDISON, SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO APARTMENTS. I DO THINK WE NEED A BALANCE ON OWNERSHIP. AND WE KNOW THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH AREA IS A TARGET MARKET FOR PEOPLE WANTING TO MOVE TO TEXAS. WHY DON'T WE CREATE MORE OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES THERE? WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO THE MEDICAL SCHOOL ALL THE TIME. THEY'RE MOVING INTO THIS COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE STRUGGLING TO FIND HOUSING THAT THEY CAN AFFORD TO BUY AND THEY WANT TO BUY. [02:05:02] SO WE COULD BE THAT PRIME CITY WHERE THEY COULD COME AND LIVE AND OWN A HOME, A TOWNHOME OR SOME OTHER PROPERTY. IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE AGAINST APARTMENTS. THERE ARE PLENTY OF THEM THOUGH, AND WE NEED MORE OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES. MY OTHER POINT IS I THINK THIS WAS A WONDERFUL FORUM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET UP HERE AND SPEAK WITH YOU ALL AND FOR YOU TO DO THIS GREAT PRESENTATION IS WONDERFUL. I WISH YOU WOULD DO THIS MORE OFTEN BEFORE YOU VOTE AND ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS. I THINK THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN HOW THE CITIZENS FEEL THEY ARE POSSIBLY BEING HEARD AND HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DIALOG IF YOU WOULD DO IT BEFORE YOU VOTE. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW. NO. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADDRESS THE LAST POINT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SO SEVERE. LINESMAN MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES, SO I JUST WANT TO MARRY. IF WE COULD PULL UP THE SLIDE. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE TODD PROJECT AND ALL OF THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT WENT INTO THAT PROJECT ALL ALONG THE WAY. THE LAND FOR THE THE SILVER LINE PROJECT WAS BOUGHT 20, 30 YEARS AGO WHEN ADDISON CIRCLE WAS CREATED. THE INTENT WAS TO PLAN FOR THE SILVER LINE. THAT WAS PART OF THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD, THE 2013 COMP PLAN CALLED OUT TO HAVE A SPECIAL AREA STUDY FOR THAT AREA TO PLAN FOR THE TODD DEVELOPMENT. WE HAD A SPECIAL AREA STUDY THAT INVOLVED THE COMMUNITY TO PLAN. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IN ADVANCE OF HAVING AN RFP THAT WE WENT AND FOUND A DEVELOPER TO ALIGN WITH THE SPECIAL AREA STUDY. SO THERE WAS PUBLIC INPUT ALL ALONG THE WAY ON THAT PROCESS. AND I UNDERSTAND THE COMMENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COMMENT ABOUT THE TIMELINE, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE POINT OUT THE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC INPUT THAT WENT INTO THE TODD DEVELOPMENT. I'VE BEEN I'VE WORKED FOR A NUMBER OF CITIES AND I HAVE NOT SEEN A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS THAT HAD THIS MUCH PUBLIC INPUT. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SAY SAY THAT, POINT THAT OUT, BECAUSE IT REALLY IS A MODEL OF HOW YOU HAVE PUBLIC INPUT ON A PROJECT OF THAT NATURE. GO FOR IT. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO LIKE TO LOOK AT OUR HOUSING DATA OR WOULD LIKE TO THE HOUSING FAQ THAT'S ON THE BACK TABLE HAS OUR FULL HOUSING COUNT. SO THERE ARE NOT 13,000 APARTMENTS CURRENTLY IN ADDISON. THERE'S NOT 13,000 DWELLING UNITS. THERE'S ABOUT 11,000 DWELLING UNITS AND ABOUT 9000 APARTMENTS. I BELIEVE THERE MAY BE SOME CONSIDERATION IN THE NUMBER THAT WAS PROVIDED AS IT RELATES TO APARTMENTS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN ZONED OR PLANNED. AS WE KNOW, VITRUVIAN PARK HAS A MORE AGGRESSIVE MASTER PLAN THAT HAS A LOT TO BE BUILT OUT. SO I THINK THAT'S REFLECTIVE OF THAT. BUT AS IT RELATES TO VACANCY FOR APARTMENTS, WE'RE GENERALLY AT 5% VACANCY HERE IN TOWN FOR APARTMENTS. ORLANDO, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT? SO 95% FILLED. READY? YEP. ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS CHARLES BERTO. I'M A CONDO OWNER IN THE ADDISON CIRCLE AREA. I WASN'T PLANNING TO SPEAK TONIGHT, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS. I GUESS ONE OBSERVATION AND ONE VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION. THE OBSERVATION IS THAT WHILE THIS IS A GREAT FORUM, FANTASTIC PRESENTATION, THERE DOES SEEM TO BE DEVELOPING A SORT OF YOU'RE EITHER FOR OR AGAINST APARTMENTS SORT OF CONTEXT AND THE WAY AND AT LEAST FOR MY PART, THAT'S NOT TRUE. THE WORD BALANCE WAS USED RIGHT BEFORE, AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT WORD. MY WIFE AND I MOVED TO THE CIRCLE KNOWING EXACTLY IT WAS FULL OF APARTMENTS. IT WAS A MIXED COMMUNITY OF APARTMENTS AND HOME OWNERSHIP. WE LOVE THAT. WE LOVE THE HIGH DENSITY. THESE WERE ALL THINGS THAT WE SORT AGREED WITH, ETC., AS WE MOVE IN. BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE INCREMENTAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE ADDISON CIRCLE, TOD IT'S NOT BALANCED. IT'S IT'S ALL APARTMENTS FROM A RESIDENTIAL PERSPECTIVE. AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONTEXT TO KEEP IN MIND. WE WE WERE ANTICIPATING THAT THE CIRCLE WOULD GROW IN THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH A BALANCE THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT THE CIRCLE HAD COMING INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT. BUT INSTEAD THAT RATIO IS CHANGING DRAMATICALLY. NOW I KNOW THERE WAS PUBLIC INPUT, ETC. NO QUESTION THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE IT. BUT EVERY TIME WE TALK ABOUT WHAT ABOUT HIGH DENSITY OWNERSHIP, THE QUESTION THAT THE ANSWER SEEMS TO COME BACK, NOT POSSIBLE DOESN'T HAPPEN IN TEXAS. THERE'S NO DEMAND. THERE'S JUST THE DEVELOPERS AREN'T DOING IT. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE TO ATTACK THAT QUESTION. WE JUST SEEM TO SLIDE OVER IT EVERY TIME IT COMES UP, EVERY TIME IT COMES UP IN THE MEETINGS, WE JUST SEEM TO KIND OF THROW UP OUR [02:10:03] HANDS THAT IT'S NOT PRACTICAL. AND THAT TO ME IS THE CORE QUESTION FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, NOT AGAINST DENSITY, NOT AGAINST APARTMENTS. I'M INTERESTED IN BALANCE AND I'M INTERESTED, AS SOMEBODY POINTED OUT EARLIER, IN AN EVOLUTION PATH THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO MOVE TO OUR COMMUNITY IN AN APARTMENT, DEVELOP PERHAPS A BIGGER APARTMENT, START A FAMILY AND PURCHASE A UNIT, IF INDEED THAT'S THEIR ASPIRATION. AND I THINK WE'RE LOSING THAT ASPIRATIONAL ASPECT OF THIS. MY VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION, ONE OF THE CHARTS IN THE LOBBY SAID THERE'S NO DEMAND FOR CONDOS OR DEMAND FOR CONDOS IS LOW. THAT DOES NOT SQUARE WITH THE OBSERVATION THAT THOSE OF US THAT OWN CONDOS, WHETHER IT'S IN A MULTI STOREY FLAT SUCH AS AVENTURA OR THOSE OF US THAT OWN TOWNHOMES, THE SALES ARE QUICK, THE DEMAND IS HIGH, THE COMPETITION FOR PURCHASE IS HIGH. NOW, OF COURSE, WE'RE IN A DOWNTURN NOW, SO PERHAPS I'M SIX MONTHS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS EBBS AND FLOWS. WE DON'T SEE THAT LACK OF DEMAND THAT WAS STATED AS A FACT. VERY SIMPLE. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE SOURCE OF THAT IS, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW THAT SQUARES WITH THE ACTUAL TURNOVER OF CONDO SALES IN THE COMMUNITY. AND CAN YOU FOLLOW UP IF I NEED TO FOLLOW UP, IF YOU NEED OR CORRECT ME IF I SEE SOMETHING WRONG. LOOK, KEN SAID EARLIER HIS LIFE WOULD BE A LOT EASIER IF WE WERE GETTING CONDOS AND FEE SIMPLE AND OWNERSHIP AND COMING IN THE DOOR. WE DID AN RFP FOR THE TOD PROJECT AND THERE WERE NO RESPONSES OF THAT NATURE. THAT'S ONE SPECIFIC PROJECT. I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU SEE US PUT THE INFORMATION THAT WAS IN HERE ABOUT THE HESITANT ABOUT THE LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S FRUSTRATING, BUT IT ALSO IS IMPORTANT THAT WE PUT IT OUT THERE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING, THOUGH, THE FACT MAYBE IT WAS LISTED AS A FACT, BUT IT REALLY IS AN OBSERVATION FROM THE AMOUNT OF CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH DEVELOPERS AS WE TRY TO PUSH HOW CAN WE GET FEE SIMPLE TOWNHOMES, TOWNHOMES, CONDOS. THAT'S THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE GETTING AND CAN CERTAINLY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. WELL, I THINK THE DEVELOPERS SHOULD LOOK AT THE ACTUAL TURNOVER IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I THINK IT INDICATES SOMETHING DIFFERENT. REALLY, WHAT I'D SHARE, SIR, IS BOTH POSITIONS ARE CORRECT. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THAT'S THE CASE. AND THERE IS A MARKET FOR CONDOS. THERE'S JUST THE. WHEN YOU CONSIDER ALL OF THE ECONOMICS OF DEVELOPING CONDOS VERSUS OTHER CLASSES OF REAL ESTATE, THAT'S WHERE IT GETS CHALLENGING. OUR LAST CONDO PROJECT IN TOWN WAS 90 UNITS SPLIT OVER 4 TO 5 MID-RISE BUILDINGS. WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A VERY EASY CONSTRUCTION PROCESS TO SOLVE AT THE NORTHERN EDGE OF ADDISON CIRCLE, IT TOOK TEN YEARS FOR THAT PROJECT TO GET BUILT OUT. TEN YEARS. WE HAVE AN OWNERSHIP HOUSING PROJECT IN TOWN TOWNHOMES, 178 TOWNHOME UNITS THAT WERE APPROVED IN 2016. IT ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS DONE FAIRLY QUICKLY. THAT PROJECT WAS AVAILABLE TO BE BUILT OUT DURING A HISTORIC HOUSING MARKET, VERY LOW INTEREST RATES AND VERY HIGH DEMAND TO OWN HOMES. THEY DID NEXT TO NOTHING DURING THE PANDEMIC AND NOW THEY'RE AT A POINT IN TIME. AND I'LL I'LL ADD THAT THIS WAS SUBSIDIZED DEVELOPMENT, TOO. THEY PERFORMED SO BADLY WITH THAT SUBSIDY THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO CAPTURE ANY OF THE SIX AND ONE HALF MILLION DOLLARS OF SUBSIDY THAT THE TOWN OFFERED FOR THAT PROJECT. THAT IS THE CHALLENGE I HAVE WITH SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING IN TO THE TOWN THAT ARE OWNERSHIP. I WOULD LOVE FOR CONDOS TO COME IN. I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH ANY CONDO DEVELOPER THAT IS ATTRACTED TO ADDISON. THE CHALLENGE IS WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING IT. WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE PROCESS, IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO MR. COLLINS POINT, TO LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO LOOK AT IT. I MEAN, TO ME, THAT'S THE BIGGEST GAP. IT'S THE IT'S THE GAP BETWEEN THE EXPECTATIONS THAT ARE SET BY THE STRATEGIC GOALS AND THE ACTUALITY OF WHAT RESULTS IN THE PLAN. IT'S NOT AN ANTI APARTMENT PERSPECTIVE, ETC.. IT'S SEEING A BULLET POINT ON THE STRATEGY THAT SAYS OUR STRATEGY AND OUR GOAL IS X, AND EVERY TIME WE ACTUALLY GO TO TRY TO DO X, WE CAN'T FOR WHATEVER REASON. SO ONE OF TWO THINGS SHOULD HAPPEN. EITHER WE STRIKE IT AS A GOAL AND IT'S WE JUST RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN SO THAT PEOPLE THAT MOVE INTO THE COMMUNITY AND LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC PLAN DON'T COME IN WITH A MISMATCH EXPECTATION FOR WHAT'S GOING TO REALLY HAPPEN, RIGHT? THAT WE HAVE ASPIRATIONS AND THEY'RE UNACHIEVABLE OR WE REALLY NEED, IN MY VIEW, TO REALLY LOOK AT CAN WE SUBSIDIZE THIS IN SOME WAY, ETC., SO THAT WE DO MAINTAIN THE BALANCE. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ANTI APARTMENT, IT'S APARTMENTS. AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. [02:15:03] THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. MY NAME IS ROBERT AHEARN, SEVEN YEAR RESIDENT OF TEXAS, FIVE YEAR RESIDENT OF ADDISON. AND AS YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL FROM THE COLOR OF MY HAIR, I'M A BIT OLDER THAN SEVEN YEARS OF AGE. I'VE LIVED OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTRY. I HEARD A FEW THINGS THIS EVENING WITH REGARD TO APARTMENT LIVING THAT FRANKLY, WE'RE A LITTLE CONCERNING. APARTMENT LIVING DOESN'T ATTRACT CRIME, IN MY OPINION. WHAT ATTRACTS CRIME IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMIT. THAT MIGHT BE SOMEBODY LEAVING SOMETHING IN THEIR AUTOMOBILE. SO THE PERSONS WHO LIVE IN APARTMENTS PERHAPS COULD BE A BIT MORE. WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? DILIGENT. I, LIKE, YOU KNOW, RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR PROPERTY. I ALSO HEARD A COMMENT TO SHIFT GEARS FROM THAT FIRST COMMENT. I HEARD ABOUT A MORATORIUM. I DON'T REALLY SEE WHAT THAT WOULD ACCOMPLISH. YOU STILL. JUST PUMPING THE BRAKES. I'D HATE TO SEE A LOST OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPMENT. IF TWO OR THREE YEARS LATER, THERE'S A DOWNTURN IN THE ECONOMY. SO THE IDEA BEHIND A MORATORIUM. I JUST I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND IT. AND A MORATORIUM HAS TO BE REASONABLE. SO WHAT'S REASONABLE? ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS? FIVE. AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT MORATORIUM BECOME A LAND TAKING BY THE TOWN THAT IT PREVENTS CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT FROM THAT LAND OWNER? SO I JUST THOSE TWO POINTS, I DON'T SEE THE EVIL, IF YOU WILL, IN APARTMENT OWNERSHIP OR APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT EXCUSE ME, AND THE MORATORIUM. I'D HAVE TO LEARN MORE FROM THE PERSONS WHO ARE PROPOSING THAT. MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING I'M. I'M MISSING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HI, MY NAME IS KRISTIN WALLACH. THANK YOU. THANKS. AND I LIVE HERE IN ADDISON. WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR SIX YEARS NOW. THIS IS MY SECOND TIME AROUND IN TEXAS. AND SO I'M FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH ADDISON AREA AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS, SUBURBS, ETC.. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE A COUPLE JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO SUGGESTING THAT PERHAPS ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS WOULD BE TO STRIKE THE GOAL THAT WE HAVE FEASIBLE HOUSING AVAILABLE IN ADDISON AS PART OF OUR FUTURE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A WISE IDEA. MY FEELINGS ON THAT, AND I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE IN HERE. I HAVE TWO YOUNG ADULTS THAT I BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD AND AND I APPRECIATE THE DIFFICULTIES THAT THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED IN TRYING TO TRANSITION AS THEY GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE AND BECAME INDEPENDENT, TRYING TO MAKE THEIR FIRST OFFER ON A HOME WHICH WAS WENT FROM AN APARTMENT TO A TOWNHOUSE OR CONDO, DEPENDING ON WHICH CHILD I'M TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN EVENTUALLY TO A HOME. AND I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES HERE IN ADDISON THAT IS GOING TO PREVENT. YOUNG PEOPLE FROM BECOMING AN ESTABLISHED PART AND TRANSITIONING FROM APARTMENT DWELLERS TO SAY THEY HAVE A DESIRE TO START A FAMILY AND REMAIN IN THIS AREA IS THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NO THERE'S NOT NOT JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT THERE'S A LACK OF HOME OWNERSHIP AVAILABLE IN THE SAME IN FEE SIMPLE CONDOS OR TOWNHOMES, BECAUSE THE THE LACK OF SUPPLY IS ARTIFICIALLY DRIVING THE PRICES OF HOMES IN THIS AREA UP. THERE'S NOTHING AVAILABLE. THERE'S NOTHING ON THE MARKET. AND ONE OF THE OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE WERE SPEAKING TO THE FACT THAT HOW MANY OFFERS THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH TO EVENTUALLY OWN THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY OR UNIT THAT THEY EVENTUALLY SETTLED IN. SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM HERE. [02:20:02] BALANCE, BALANCE, BALANCE. YOU PUT MORE APARTMENTS IN AND YES, YOU'RE RENTING THOSE APARTMENTS, BUT WHAT HAPPENS AGAIN, TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO REDEVELOP. WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT ALL OVER AGAIN AND WE'RE DOING THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO KEEP PUTTING APARTMENTS IN AND JUST APARTMENTS, BE BALANCED, OFFER APARTMENTS. AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MIXED USE. WHY IS THIS JUST APARTMENTS AND RETAIL AND OFFICE? WHY ISN'T IT APARTMENTS FOR SIMPLE OFFICE AND RETAIL? WHY ISN'T IT ALL OF THOSE? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT SHOULD BE A NO BRAINER SO PEOPLE CAN TRANSITION AND STAY IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY WANT TO BE AND HAVE IT BE A VIBRANT COMMUNITY AND A BALANCED COMMUNITY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I'M SUE HALPERN, AND I LIVE IN IN MIDWAY MEADOWS. I'VE LIVED IN TEXAS FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS NOW, AND I'VE LIVED IN ADDISON FOR ALMOST 34 YEARS. AND ADDISON ISN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE, THANK GOODNESS. IT'S GROWN AND IT'S DEVELOPED, AND IT'S DONE IT IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY. I LOVE THAT THIS SLIDE IS UP HERE. I WAS ON THE COUNCIL FROM 1992 UNTIL 1999. I'VE BEEN ON EVERY COMMITTEE AND COMMISSION THAT YOU COULD IMAGINE. MY COUNCIL WITH THE VISION OF RON WHITEHEAD AND THE LATE, GREAT, EXTRAORDINARY CARMEN MORAN. SPECTACULAR HUMAN BEING TAKEN FROM US WAY TOO SOON. BUT A BRILLIANT WOMAN. THEY VISIONED THIS TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. MY COUNCIL FROM 92 TO 99 SPENT ALMOST THAT ENTIRE TIME PURCHASING THE LAND RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET OVER HERE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A PARK, BECAUSE CARMEN AND RON HAD A VISION AND BECAUSE WE PLANNED AND WE VISIONED AND WE STRATEGIZED AND WE READ AND WE MET AND WE TALKED AND WE CONSULTED AND WE DEBATED. THAT'S HOW WE CREATE A COMMUNITY LIKE ADDISON. DOESN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE SOMEBODY MOVES IN AND DECIDES THEY KNOW BETTER. IT HAPPENS BECAUSE WE PLAN AND WE STRATEGIZE. THERE'S AN UNEASY PEACE HERE BETWEEN WHAT WE WANT AS A COMMUNITY AND WHAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE WILLING TO DO. WOULD IT BE GREAT IF THERE WERE ALL THESE CONDOS BEING PROPOSED? AND SURE, I MEAN, GREAT. IT'S PART OF OUR OUR PLAN, BUT THE DEVELOPERS AREN'T AREN'T PROPOSING THAT. SO WE HAVE THIS UNEASY PEACE HERE. GO AND DRIVE THE PARKING LOTS BY OFFICE IN THE PARK. RIGHT DOWN ON MIDWAY ROAD. GO AND DRIVE BACK THERE. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT DETERIORATION, AND IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, YES, ONE OPTION IS DO NOTHING. DO NOTHING. THE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT COMING TO US OFFERING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO DO NOTHING. I DON'T WANT THAT. THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS DETERIORATING NEXT TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD. MY NEIGHBORS HEAR THINGS AT NIGHT, CARS AND PEOPLE IN THE PARKING LOTS BACK THERE WHO ARE ENGAGING IN INAPPROPRIATE ACTIVITIES, SOME OF IT CRIMINAL. WOULD WOULD WE WANT SOMETHING NEW OR DIFFERENT THERE? I DON'T KNOW. BUT I KNOW THAT WHAT WAS PROPOSED INCLUDED THE DONATION OF THREE AND A HALF ACRES OF LAND THAT WILL BUFFER MY NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE ALONG THAT FENCE LINE. TWO THUMBS UP, THREE AND A HALF ACRES THAT THE DEVELOPER GAVE TO THE TOWN AND WILL BUILD OUT AT THE TOWN'S SPECIFICATIONS AND THEIR EXPENSE. NOT A BAD DEAL. THEY'VE BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS, THEY'VE MET WITH US, THEY'VE WORKED WITH US, THEY'VE ADJUSTED THINGS. THEY'VE WORKED WITH THE TOWNHOMES THAT ARE OVER THERE. THEY'RE PROPOSING A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT INCLUDES MULTIFAMILY. IT'S AN EXCEPTIONAL DEVELOPMENT. THEY'RE AN EXCEPTIONAL DEVELOPER IN MY IN MY OPINION. IS IT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF MY NEIGHBORS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO ALLOW THIS SITUATION TO CONTINUE TO DECLINE? OR DO WE ACCEPT A THREE AND ONE HALF ACRE PARK DONATED BUILT OUT TO OUR SPECS AT THEIR EXPENSE, REPLACING TREES CALIPER PER [02:25:07] CALIPER. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD DEAL. WE HAVE TO BE OPEN TO IT. AND BEING OPEN TO IT IS PART OF WHY THE HOUSING POLICY WAS AMENDED IN 2017, NOT BECAUSE THERE WAS AN UPRISING. THAT'S FICTION. THE 2017 POLICY WAS AMENDED TO CLARIFY THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT THE STAFF WOULD BRING TO THE COUNCIL, SAYING THAT IT WAS THE RESULT OF AN UPRISING IS UTTER FICTION AND I ABHOR MISINFORMATION. AS SOON AS AN AMAZING PLACE, MORE THAN 85% OF OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE PAID BY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. I GO TO THE HEALTH CLUB EVERY DAY AND PLAY PICKLEBALL EVERY DAY. IT'S INSANE THAT I DO THAT, BUT I DO IT. AND THAT HEALTH CLUB IS FUNDED IN PART BY 85% IN 85%. COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. LESS THAN 15% OF OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE PAID BY HOMEOWNERS. WE SAW THE GRAPHICS SAYS 14%. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN 14% THAT WE PAY. BUT THAT IS AN AMAZING VALUE. IT'S PART OF THE REASON I MOVED HERE. 8% OF THE TOTAL REVENUE COMES FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. OTHER PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR US TO HAVE THIS AMAZING LIFE IN THIS AMAZING COMMUNITY WITH PARKS AND TRAILS AND A HEALTH CLUB THAT I HAD TO PAY TWICE FOR. SO I HAD TO PAY $20 INSTEAD OF JUST TEN FOR 34 YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED HERE. THAT'S RIDICULOUS. AND IT'S WONDERFULLY RIDICULOUS. I DO QUESTION THIS NOTION OF NO MORE APARTMENTS. WHAT DOES IT MEAN? DID THE PEOPLE WHO SCAN THE CODE CLICK THE LINK? I'M NOT CALLING ANYBODY STUPID, BUT I AM SAYING, DO YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED? BECAUSE YOU'VE KIND OF WRITTEN A BLANK CHECK BECAUSE IT HASN'T REALLY BEEN DEFINED. SO ARE YOU SAYING BREACH A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING? I HEARD THAT PROPOSED MONDAY NIGHT AT THE COUNCIL MEETING. YOU KNOW WHAT I HEAR? I'M A LAWYER. I HEAR LAWSUIT DAMAGES. WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT? TAXPAYERS. DO. WE REMOVE USES THAT ARE ALREADY PERMITTED? SOUNDS LIKE EMINENT DOMAIN TO ME. MONEY COST MONEY. EMINENT DOMAIN. WE HAVE THE RIGHT. WE CAN TAKE ALL THE PROPERTY. WE DID IT. THAT'S HOW WE HAVE THIS PARK. WE'RE ALL HOUSES AND LITTLE BUSINESSES. WHEN I MOVED HERE, WE BOUGHT ALL OF IT. EMINENT DOMAIN. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT FOR PUBLIC USE. COST MONEY. TAXPAYER MONEY. NOW, DO THEY UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THESE FOLKS INVOLVED ARE SAYING WE SHOULD USE TAXPAYER MONEY TO FUND SINGLE FAMILY HOME DEVELOPMENTS? FEE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP. THAT HOW YOU WANT YOUR TAXPAYER MONEY USED? NOT HOW I WANT MINE USED. ALL RIGHT. SO DID. MY POINT IS, YOU KNOW, WE SORT OF HEAR ABOUT 400 PEOPLE. DOES THIS 400 PEOPLE REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR? DO THEY REALLY UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS? COST MONEY? SO I'D LOVE TO SEE CONDOS FEE SIMPLE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BUT IT'S NOT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED RIGHT NOW. SO THAT PUTS US IN THIS DILEMMA. DO WE SIT AND DO NOTHING AND ALLOW FURTHER DETERIORATION, WHICH YOU CAN SEE DOWN AN OFFICE IN THE PARK? GO AND DRIVE IT. GO AND WALK IT. DO WHAT I DID. WALK IT RIGHT. BECAUSE I WAS ON THE SAMS AREA STUDY AND I SPENT HOURS HERE AND AT THE TREE HOUSE ANALYZING AND READING AND TALKING AND DISCUSSING AND ALL THOSE THINGS SO THAT WE COULD TRY TO COME UP WITH THE BEST SOLUTION. AND I WALK TO THE AREA AND IT IS DETERIORATING. AND I DON'T AGREE THAT WE SHOULD JUST DO NOTHING AND LET THAT HAPPEN. SO IF YOU AGREE THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING NOW, WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE PROPOSING, WE CAN'T MAKE THEM DO THINGS AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO THINGS TO MAKE MONEY. THAT'S THAT'S JUST REALITY. WE HAVE TO USE THAT IN CONTEXT. YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD THAT KEN TALKED ABOUT ADDISON GROWTH. I SPOKE AGAINST IT. I THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD DEVELOPMENT AND A BAD DEVELOPER, AND IT WAS APPROVED SEVEN YEARS AGO, AND WE'VE LOOKED AT CONSTRUCTION FOR SEVEN YEARS. UGLY CONSTRUCTION, NO CONSTRUCTION. THERE WAS A BUILDING THAT JUST WAS BRICKED. IT WAS STARTED LIKE 53 MONTHS AGO. IT TOOK THEM 53 MONTHS TO PUT BRICKS ON THE OUTSIDE OF A BUILDING. THAT ISN'T WHAT WE NEED. [02:30:01] IT'S SIMPLE. IT'S 178 TOWNHOMES. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS AND WE HAVE TO WEIGH THESE THINGS. AND WE CAN'T TAKE EXTREME POSITIONS AND WE CAN'T LET MISINFORMATION DIVIDE US. AS A COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TO DEAL IN REALITY AND WE HAVE TO DEAL IN FACTS. AND THE REALITY IS WE HAVE A BALANCING THAT WE HAVE TO DO. WE HAVE TO DO IT TOGETHER, NOT DECISIVELY, NOT BASED ON MISINFORMATION AND GIMMICKRY. WE HAVE TO HAVE A REASONED DISCUSSION. WE'VE HAD LOTS OF THEM. IF YOU LEAVE HERE WITH NO OTHER IMPRESSION, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT WE PLAN AND WE MEET AND WE DISCUSS AND WE TRY SO HARD TO DO THE RIGHT THING. MY COUNCIL VOTED TO USE NINE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OF PUBLIC MONEY TO BUILD OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN ADDISON CIRCLE BECAUSE OF THE VISION OF CARMEN MORAN AND RON WHITEHEAD. AND THAT NIGHT I WENT HOME AND I STARED AT THE CEILING AND SAID, WHAT HAVE I DONE? WHAT DID I VOTE FOR? I HOPE I DID THE RIGHT THING. I THINK I DID. I'M PRETTY SURE I DID. BUT WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WE'LL LOOK AROUND YOU. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE HAVE A VISION. WE HAVE A PROCESS AND WE PLAN AND WE HAVE STRATEGIC PLANS AND MASTER PLANS AND WE WORK ON ALL THOSE THINGS. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS, ALL OF WHAT YOU SEE AROUND YOU. AND I'M SAD EVERY TIME I COME HERE THAT CARMEN ISN'T HERE TO SEE THAT. NOW THERE IS A THERE THERE JUST LIKE SHE VISIONED. SO WHAT WE NEED IS UNITY. WHAT WE NEED ARE FACTS. I THINK THE STAFF DID AN AMAZING PRESENTATION TONIGHT. KEN DID THE BEST PRESENTATION I'VE EVER SEEN CAN MAKE. IT WAS INFORMATIVE, AND IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO UNDERSTAND. YES. FOR THE RECORD, I COULD HEAR PAUL SPENCER AND I DIDN'T THINK HE WAS UNPREPARED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. I THINK HE EXPLAINED EXACTLY WHAT INFORMATION HE WAS GOING TO PRESENT OR NOT. BUT THIS IS WHAT WE NEED. WE HAVE ALL THESE FACTS AND THEY'RE ALL AVAILABLE TO US. THEY'RE ON THE THEY'RE ON THE WEBSITE, THEY'RE OUT IN THE HALLWAY. THE STAFF IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND WILLING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, I LOOK AT THAT SLIDE, THE NINETIES, THAT'S WHEN THIS ALL STARTED. AND MONDAY NIGHT WAS A CULMINATION OF A PLANNING PROCESS THAT STARTED 30 YEARS AGO. THAT'S HOW WE PLAN. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. THAT'S WHY ADDISON IS SO SPECIAL AND IT IS A SPECIAL PLACE. AND I WANT IT TO STAY THAT WAY. AND TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO BE OPEN TO REDEVELOPMENT AND WE HAVE TO BE OPEN TO WHAT THE MARKET BEARS AND TO MAKING GOOD DECISIONS BASED ON ON FACTS. CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING. AND HERE'S THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY. PEOPLE ARE SAYING LOUD AS SOON ISN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE. RIGHT HERE WHERE I'M STANDING. THEY USED TO RIDE HORSES HERE. I GREW UP IN NEW YORK. WE DIDN'T HAVE HORSES. WE HAD HORSE POWER, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE HORSES. PEOPLE RODE HORSES HERE. YES. ADDISON ISN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE. THAT'S RIGHT. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 34 YEARS. IT'S CHANGED. IT'S GROWN, IT'S EVOLVED. BUT IT'S DONE IT IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY, LED BY PEOPLE WHO TRY THEIR BEST. PEOPLE LIKE ME, WHO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO TRY TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS AND TO DO THINGS RESPONSIBLY. AND I PERSONALLY BELIEVE WE'VE DONE THAT. AND I PERSONALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. WE NEED TO REDEVELOP, AS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, THESE THINGS NEED TO CHANGE. WE NEED TO BE OPEN TO WHAT THE MARKET BEARS AND WE NEED TO BE OPEN TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO TO BUILD. AND I THINK WE'RE DOING THAT AND I THINK WE'RE DOING THAT IN SPADES. THANK YOU. SO I JUST LIKE TO RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU JUST MADE. MS.. HALPERN. I THINK WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING. WE ALL WANT THE BEST FOR ADDISON, AND WE'RE ALL HERE TO VOICE OUR OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT WE THINK WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ADDISON. AND NO ONE'S TRYING TO DEGRADE OR TAKE AWAY FROM ANY OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE BY ANY OF THE PEOPLE OVER THE NUMBER OF YEARS. AND I HAVE PERSONALLY WANTED TO LIVE IN ADDISON BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE OF LIVING HERE IN THE AREA IN THE PAST. IT WAS VERY DESIRABLE FOR ME TO COME BACK HERE AND LOOK FOR A PLACE TO LIVE IN. [02:35:01] ADDISON BECAUSE I LIKED ADDISON, AND I CONTINUE TO LIKE ADDISON. BUT I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITIZENS. AND EVEN THOUGH THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN PUT UP HERE, I FEEL THAT SOME OF THESE IN THE TOWN MEETINGS, WHEN YOU YOU RESPOND TO EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUAL PRODUCT PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED THAT THE TOWN LOOKS AT THESE RESPONSES FROM THE CITIZENS AS SEEING THESE AS ISOLATED INCIDENTS AND NOT FOR A GENERAL OVERALL PICTURE OF HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THE WAY THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS TOWN IS GOING AND CONTINUES TO GO. AND IT NEEDS THE ONE THING THAT YOU DID SAY IN YOUR PRESENTATION IS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE BALANCED. AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE SAID AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID HERE TONIGHT, WE NEED BALANCE. AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. WE'RE NOT HAVING BALANCE. AND AS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, YOU REPRESENT US WHEN YOU'RE MEETING WITH THESE DEVELOPERS AND IT IS UP TO YOU TO REPRESENT US AND SAY AND TELL THEM IN THE 2019 HOUSING POLICY THAT YOU REVISED THAT THAT FEE, SIMPLE HOUSING, NOT SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THAT IS NOT THE FACTS. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. WE'RE ASKING FOR HOME OWNERSHIP, NOT AS A SINGLE FAMILY FREESTANDING HOME. THAT IS NOT NOT THE FACTS AND NOT THE TRUTH. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. WE REALIZE THAT THAT SHIP HAS SAILED A LONG TIME AGO ALONG WITH THE HORSES. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HERE HAS THE FACTS STRAIGHT, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD THAT REPEATED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AS BEING IT'S A VERY DISMISSIVE RESPONSE TO THE CONCERNS OF THE HOMEOWNERS WHEN THAT IS BROUGHT UP, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHERE WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT A BALANCED PORTFOLIO IN THIS TOWN MOVING FORWARD. AND YES, THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND YOU HAVE PLANNED FOR OVER THE PERIOD OF YEARS IS REFLECTIVE OF WHERE THE ECONOMY WAS AND WAS RESPONSIVE TO THE PANDEMIC. BUT I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK FORWARD A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO SEE WHERE THE TRENDS OF HOUSING ARE GOING NOW. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IN FOR A BIG SURPRISE ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD. AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE RESPONDING TO THAT AND NOT HAVE ALL OUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET AND BEING A HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THANK YOU. SORRY. THINK ABOUT THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS JUST USED. I JUST ENCOURAGE IT. I WOULD OFFER A CHALLENGE, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE DIVISIVE. BUT YOU SAID THE HOMEOWNERS WANT. WHY DON'T WE TALK ABOUT THE RESIDENTS OF ADDISON? THAT'S A CHALLENGE THAT I WOULD ISSUE. QUIT. QUIT DOING THE THE BINARY CHOICE, AND I'LL SHUT UP. I MEAN, THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING I'VE COME TO, BUT GET OFF OF THAT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO. TO WRAP IT UP. UNLESS THERE'S ANY LAST COMMENTS, I. I DO WANT TO AGAIN POINT TO THE FUTURE A LITTLE BIT AND HIGHLIGHT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I THINK A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION THAT'S BEEN HAD TODAY ARE REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE DURING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TO BE INVOLVED WITH THAT AND STAY IN TOUCH. AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING OUT AND HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. THANKS. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.