Dec 14, 2022 Planning &amp; Zoning Commission

UM, WITH ALL THAT, LET'S THEN SPEAK IN OUR MEETING.

UM, BEFORE WE REALLY START ON THE FIRST ITEM BUSINESS, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAKE MENTION THAT, UH, THIS IS JOHN'S LAST MEETING.

UM, HE'S BEEN WITH US, HE'S BEEN ON PZ FOR A LONG SIX YEARS.

UM, I TELL YA, UM, JOHN, TO ME PERSONALLY, HAS BEEN A REAL INSPIRATION.

I MEAN, HIS INTEGRITY, HIS TRUSTWORTHINESS, BUT HIS WORK ETHIC IS JUST PHENOMENAL.

UH, I KNOW HE, HE'S HAD SOME CHALLENGES OVER THE YEARS AND JUST TO SIT HERE AND WATCH 'EM COME IN EVERY MONTH, IT'S JUST REAL INSPIRATION.

SO, THANK YOU, JOHN, FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND APPRECIATE IT, AND WE WILL MISS YOU A LOT.

[ Consent Agenda: All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the Planning and Zoning Commission and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]

RIGHT.

FIRST ITEM IS, IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UM, THIS WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE WORK SESSION.

THERE WAS NO ADDITIONS OR CHANGES.

SO BEING THAT THERE ARE NONE, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH CONSISTS OF THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 15TH, 2022 MEETING.

ALL OPPOS AYE EXTENSIONS.

TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

UM, NOW WE HAVE OUR GO

[2. Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on a Recommendation regarding an Ordinance Approving a Special Use Permit (SUP) for Property Located at 5100 Belt Line Road, Suite #728, that is currently zoned Planned Development (PD), through Ordinance Nos. O12-002 and O20-08, to allow a Restaurant with the Sale of Alcoholic Beverages for On-Premises Consumption. Case 1866-SUP/5100 Belt Line Road, Suite #728 (Nando's).]

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, S U P FOR PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 5,100 BELTLINE ROAD, SUITE NUMBER 7 28.

THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD THROUGH ORDINANCE NUMBERS OH 12 DASH 0 0 2 AND OH TWO ZERO DASH ZERO EIGHT TO ALLOW A RESTAURANT WITH A SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR ON-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.

THIS IS CASE 1866 DASH U SLASH 5,100 BELTLINE ROAD, SUITE NUMBER 7 28 NANDO.

LESLIE, GIMME A STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.

UH, ALSO INCLUDED THE, UH, REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT AND EXPANSION OF THE PATIO, WHICH SERVES SUITE 7 28.

UH, GOOD EVENING, LESLIE AND I PUT THE, UM, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR TOWN.

THE, UM, SECOND ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A RESTAURANT WITH A SALE OF ALCOHOL, UM, AT VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, LOCATED AT 5,100 BELTLINE ROAD.

UM, THE RESTAURANT IS PROPOSED TO OCCUPY SUITE 7 28.

UH, VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY HAS, UH, A FAIRLY LENGTHY, UH, HISTORY.

UM, THIS PARTICULAR, UM, SUITE WAS FIRST GRANTED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN 2003 FOR THE SAFFRON HOUSE.

IT WAS THE PREVIOUS RESTAURANT THAT OCCUPIED THE SPACE, UM, AND IT OCCUPIED THAT SPACE UNTIL APPROXIMATELY 2019.

UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE SUITE HAS REMAINED VACANT SINCE THAT TIME.

UM, AND THEN, UH, FOLLOWING THAT, UH, THERE WAS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT IN, OR EXCUSE ME, IN PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, ADOPTED IN 2012, UH, FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF, UH, VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.

AND, UH, IN 2022, WE SAW AN AMENDMENT TO ESTABLISH A MIXED USE PARKING RATIO, UH, OF, UH, FOR THE, THE SHOPPING CENTER.

AND THEN, UH, MOST RECENTLY, STAFF APPROVED, UH, LANDSCAPE AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS FOR BLOCK 700, WHICH IS, UM, THE BLOCK, WHICH, UM, NANDOS IS PROPOSING TO OCCUPY.

UH, THESE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, PRIMARILY INCLUDED, UM, IMPROVED AC SIDEWALK ACCESS, SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, UM, STRING LIGHTS ABOVE THE, UM, PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS.

UH, BUT MOST NOTABLY, IT,

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UM, THERE, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS RENDERING HERE, THERE ARE SEVERAL TREES, UM, THAT WERE EXISTING, AND THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REMAIN THE, UM, PATIO SPACE WILL ENCOMPASS THOSE TREES AND THEY'LL SERVE AS ADDITIONAL SHADE.

SO NANDOS IS A FAST, CASUAL, UH, RESTAURANT CONCEPT.

UH, IT ORIGINATED IN THE, UM, EIGHTIES AND, UM, IN JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA, AND HAS, UM, EXPANDED.

THEY HAVE, UH, OVER 48 LOCATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES NOW, AND THIS WILL BE THE FIRST LOCATION IN THE D F W MARKET.

UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO OCCUPY, UH, A APPROXIMATELY 4,100 SQUARE FOOT SUITE, UH, IN ADDITION TO A, UM, APPROXIMATELY 1400 SQUARE FOOT PATIO, UH, ON SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, FACADE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH WE'LL VIEW LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.

UH, THEY ALL ARE PROPOSING TO, UH, INSTALL BIFOLD OR ACCORDION DOORS ALONG THE, UM, PATIO FRONTAGE.

SO THERE'S KIND OF A, A BLEND BETWEEN THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR DINING AREAS.

UH, THE, UH, SEATING WOULD HAVE 81 SEATS INDOORS AND THEN, UH, 68, UM, SEATS OUTDOORS.

THEY WILL ALSO, UM, SELL ALCOHOL FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.

THE, UM, OUT PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE RESTAURANT ARE 11:00 AM TO 11:00 PM SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

UM, AND THEY ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE, UM, APPROXIMATELY, UM, 35, UH, EMPLOYEES, UH, AT THIS LOCATION.

UM, OBVIOUSLY NOT WORKING ALL AT ONCE.

THE PROPOSED, UM, PARKING IS NOT, UH, INTENDED TO BE MODIFIED.

UH, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, ALL OF THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS WILL BE ENCOMPASSED WITHIN THE, UH, EXISTING SUITE OR ASSOCIATED PATIO.

ADDITIONALLY, UH, THE SAME FOR THE OPEN SPACE AND LANDSCAPING.

UH, THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY MODIFICATION, UM, TO THE, UM, THE VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, UH, OPEN SPACE OR LANDSCAPING.

THE EXTERIOR APPEARANCE DOES HAVE, UH, QUITE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE PROPOSED.

SO THEY ARE, UH, PROPOSING TO MODIFY THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTH FACADES OF THE BUILDING.

UH, THIS WILL INCLUDE, UH, ALL NEW, UM, DOOR ENTRY ENTRY AS WELL AS WINDOWS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE FACADE.

UH, THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING A PERLA OVER THE, UM, PATIO STRUCTURE WITH SHADE SALES AND, UH, STRING LIGHTS.

THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING TO INSTALL, UM, FANS AND HEAT LAMPS TO HELP U UTILIZE THE PATIO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THE, UM, MATERIALS ON THE BUILDING WILL, THEY'LL, UM, ADD SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, ACCENT MATERIALS, BUT THE EXISTING, UM, STUCCO WILL REMAIN THE SAME FOR THE MOST PART IN, IN MANY AREAS OF THE FACADE.

UH, HOWEVER, THEY WILL PAINT IT.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE FACADE PLAN HERE, THEY ARE PROPOSING, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, PLANTING AREAS, ACCENT PLANTING AREAS, UH, BOTH ALONG THE EAST ELEVATION, WHICH IS IN THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER AND ALONG THE EDGE OF THE PATIO.

UM, ALL SIGNAGE ZONE ON THE FACADE PLAN WILL HAVE TO BE, UM, REVIEWED AND APPROVED VIA THE SIGNED PERMIT PROCESS AND IS NOT APPROVED VIA THE ZONING.

UH, STAFF NOTIFIED ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES.

AND, UH, IN CONCLUSION, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, UH, WITH TWO CONDITIONS.

THE FIRST, THERE ARE NO, UM, USE OF TERMS OR GRAPHIC DEPICTIONS RELATED TO ALCOHOL BEVERAGES ON EXTERIOR SIGNAGE.

UM, AND THAT UPON ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FERNANDO'S, THE PREVIOUS S U P ORDINANCE, UH, FOR THE SAFFRON HOUSE FOR THE RE A RESTAURANT WITH ALCOHOL SALES WOULD BE REPEALED.

I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

AND, UH, THE APPLICANT, UM, IS ON THE, THE ZOOM CALL.

THANK YOU, LESLIE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE? I, I HAVE ONE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR YOU, LESLIE, OR THE APPLICANT, BUT ON SLIDE SIX ON THE BACK, UH, TWO PANELS, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S THERE, WHETHER THAT'S GLASS OR WHETHER THAT'S PLASTIC OR SOMETHING.

OR MAYBE IT'S NOTHING RIGHT HERE.

NO, NO, NO.

FURTHER TO THE RIGHT.

OH, YES, THE BACK, UM,

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MORE TO THE RIGHT ON THE SIDE, IT'S KINDA BLURRY RIGHT THERE.

OH, IS THAT A COVERING OR IS THAT JUST, UM, I, I'LL, UH, DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT.

UM, THEY DID NOT INDICATE THAT THAT WOULD BE A COVERING TO OKAY.

TO STAFF.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE WHOLE THING WOULD BE COVERED OR IF THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY, THEY, THAT'S A WALL OF A BUILDING.

THE NEXT BUILDING OR THE NEXT BUILDING.

JOINING US, UH, VIA ZOOM.

IT MAY JUST BE THE NEXT BUILDING FOR GRAPHIC.

IF YOU ON THE SITE PLAN HERE, UM, THE PATIO, THERE WILL BE A PEDESTRIAN, UM, SIDEWALK THAT GOES BETWEEN THE PATIO AND THE ADJACENT BUILDING.

UM, BUT THERE THEY WILL BE FAIRLY CLOSE IN PROXIMITY.

MR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE? IF NOT, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.

IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT EITHER IN PERSON OR ONLINE? UH, THERE RYAN AND NICOLE, CAN YOU HEAR US? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

UH, FEEL FREE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND, UH, SHARE ANY INFORMATION, UH, WITH THE COMMISSION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE.

RYAN.

RYAN, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO HEAR YOU.

HE'S MUTED.

DOESN'T SHOW HE IS MUTED ON YOUR END.

LOOKS LIKE HE'S ON A PLANE.

UH, WE CAN, WE COULD SEE YOU WE'RE JUST NOT ABLE TO HEAR YOU.

LOOKS LIKE HE'S ON AN AIRPLANE.

YEAH, HE'S ON AN AIRPLANE BORDER.

TECHNICALITY.

CAN'T HEAR YOU, RYAN.

HE STILL CAN'T HEAR YOU.

RYAN, ON THE PLANE.

WHO ELSE WAS ONLINE? LESLIE? UM, NICOLE IS ALSO ONLINE.

NICOLE, CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE, DO YOU HAVE A, SOME INFORMATION YOU CAN SHARE WITH US? I THINK RYAN'S HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY.

SO, YEAH, THIS IS NICOLE.

I'M WITH CS DEPARTMENT SERVICES.

I'M THE APPLICANT TOWARD, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YEAH.

ALONG WITH EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE PLANE.

UHHUH, .

SORRY ABOUT THAT'LL.

SO, I'M RYAN WESH.

I'VE BEEN FOR ALMOST 12 YEARS NOW.

PREVIOUS SPECIAL.

I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD, UH, HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH NICOLE CUZ RYAN IS, IT'S REAL HARD TO TO HEAR WITH THE BACKGROUND ON THE PLANE.

THINK HE SAID IT WAS THE BUILDING.

SO HE SAID IT WAS THE BREEZEWAY FROM THE BUILDING.

SO IF COMMISSIONERS HAVE SOME QUESTIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, CAN NICOLE ANSWER SOME OF THOSE? SO FOR ANY OPERATIONAL AND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, I WOULD DEFER RYAN, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL JUST PUT, UH, I'LL PUT THE EAR TO MY PHONE.

UH, MY PHONE DID MY EAR AND TAKE MYSELF OFF VIDEO.

SO I THINK YOU SAID CHANGES.

I JUST SAID ONE, WHICH WAS CHANGES TECHNOLOGY.

ABOUT HALF OF THE SEATING IS OUTSIDE.

AND EVEN THOUGH THIS IS TEXAS, YOU CAN'T EAT OUTSIDE ALL YEAR LONG.

UM, AND SO DOES THEIR BUSINESS MODEL ACCOMMODATE THE FACT THAT THERE MAY BE THREE OR FOUR MONTHS DURING THE YEAR THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE A LARGE PATIO CONTINGENT OF, OF, UH, YEAH.

THE, THE, THE PRIMARY SERVICE IS, IS DINE IN AND, AND WILL BE ACCOMMODATED INSIDE THE DINING ROOM.

UH, THE PATIO WILL BE USED TO THE LARGEST EXTENT THAT IT CAN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT SEVERAL EITHER TOO HOT OR TOO COLD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, IF, IF OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING AND GO MOVE TO A MOTION ON THIS PROPOSAL.

ANYONE WILL MAKE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

UM, 1867, ESPECIALLY USED PERMIT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS LISTED.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSE A NAY.

THE INTENTIONS IT PASSES.

CONGRATULATIONS.

DID YOU SAY 1867 OR 1866.

WE CAN TAKE ANOTHER MOTION.

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SURE.

WE THANK YOU FOLKS.

A MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, 1866 SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS LISTED.

OKAY, ONCE AGAIN, ALL IN FAVOR? STATE .

ALL SECONDS.

ALAN.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[3. Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on a Recommendation regarding an Ordinance Approving a Special Use Permit (SUP) for Property Located at 5290 Belt Line Road, Suite #134 that is currently zoned Planned Development (PD), Ordinance No. O22-3, to allow a Veterinarian Hospital. Case 1867-SUP/5290 Belt Line Road, Suite #134 (Modern Animal). ]

THE NEXT AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, TOTAL PUBLIC HEARING TO PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, S U P PROPERTY LOCATED AT 52 90 BELTLINE ROAD, SUITE NUMBER 1 34.

THOSE CURRENTLY ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PD.

ORDINANCE NUMBER OH 22 DASH THREE TO ALLOW A VETERINARIAN HOSPITAL.

THIS IS CASE 1867 S U P SLASH 52 90 BELTLINE ROAD, SUITE NUMBER 1 34, MODERN ANIMAL.

LESLIE, CAN WE HAVE STAFF REPORT, PLEASE? YES.

UH, LESLIE KNIGHT, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE TOWN.

UH, ITEM THREE ON YOUR AGENDA IS A, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR A, UH, VETERINARIAN HOSPITAL AT PRESTONWOOD PLACE.

52 90 BELTLINE ROAD.

UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO OCCUPY SUITE 1 34.

UH, PRESTONWOOD PLACE WAS, UH, INITIALLY CONSTRUCTED IN THE, UH, LATE SEVENTIES, EARLY EIGHTIES.

UM, IN 2019, IT WAS, UH, REZONED TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT BASED ON LOCAL RETAIL STANDARDS, UH, TO IN FACILITATE REINVESTMENT OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN RECENT YEARS.

UH, IN 2022, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR, UM, A AMENDMENT AND, AND THE ORIGINAL PD FROM 2019 WAS AMENDED AND RESTATED, UH, TO ESTABLISH A MIXED USE PARKING RATIO, UH, AND ALSO ALLOW MEDICAL OFFICES PERMITTED USE.

UM, AND, UH, BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, IS THE REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR MODERN ANIMAL.

UH, THEY ARE A MEMBERSHIP BASED, UH, VETERINARY CARE CLINIC, UH, PROVIDER.

UH, ONCE AGAIN, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO OCCUPY SUITE 1 34.

UH, MODERN ANIMAL, AS I MENTIONED, IS A MEMBERSHIP BASED, UH, UH, VETERINARY CLA CARE CLINIC, UH, FOR CANINES AND FELINES.

UH, THEY, UH, WERE FIRST FOUNDED IN 2018 IN CALIFORNIA.

HOWEVER, THEIR FIRST CLINIC DIDN'T OPEN UNTIL 2020, UH, DUE TO THE PANDEMIC.

UH, THEY, SINCE THEN, THEY HAVE EXPANDED RAPIDLY.

THEY CURRENTLY HAVE SIX, UH, LOCATIONS OPEN IN CALIFORNIA.

UM, TWO, UM, IN PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, COMING SOON IN AUSTIN.

AND, UM, TWO AS WELL IN THE WORKS IN THE DFW MARKET.

ONE OF THOSE, UM, IN ADDISON, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO, UH, OCCUPY THE ENTIRE, UH, 4,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, SPACE IN SUITE 1 34.

UM, THEIR, UM, HOURS OF OPERATION ARE PROPOSED TO BE 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DO, UM, GENERAL PRACTICE, UM, VET CARE FOR, UM, AN FOR DOGS AND CATS.

UH, THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO DO ANY SORT OF BOARDING OR GROOMING OR COSMETIC SERVICES ON SITE.

UH, THEY'VE INDICATED THAT THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING TO, UM, HAVE ANY ANIMALS ON SITE OUTSIDE OF OPERATING HOURS, UH, OR WITHOUT A, UH, EMPLOYEE PRESENT.

THEY, UH, AT FULL CAPACITY, THEY INTEND TO HAVE, UH, FOUR DOCTORS, UH, THREE, UH, VET TECHNICIANS AND THREE SUPPORT STAFF AT THIS LOCATION.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THEIR FLOOR PLAN, UH, THEY HAVE A MAIN RECEPTION OR LOBBY AREA, UH, SEVERAL EXAM ROOMS AND, UH, VARIOUS OPERATING ROOMS, UH, AS WELL AS SOME OFFICES AND, UM, BREAK ROOMS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES AS WELL.

THIS, UM, MODERN ANIMALS PROPOSING TO OCCUPY WITHIN PRESTONWOOD PLACE.

THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING TO MODIFY ANY OF THE EXISTING PARKING OR EXISTING LANDSCAPE OR OPEN SPACE AT THE SITE FOR THE EXTERIOR APPEARANCE.

UH, THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY, UM, MODIFICATIONS.

HOWEVER, THEY DO, UH, THEY ARE INTENDING TO HAVE A NEW TENANT SIGN, UH, ON THEIR SUITE, WHICH WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED VIA THE SIGN PERMITTING PROCESS.

UH, STAFF SENT OUT NOTICES TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS THAN 200 FEET OF THE SITE, UH, INCLUDING 18 RECIPIENTS, AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY, UH, RESPONSES TO THAT.

AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, UH, WITH THE CONDITION THAT THERE SHALL BE NO BOARDING OF ANIMALS AT THIS LOCATION.

UH, THE APPLICANTS ARE

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COMMISSIONERS.

HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF LESLIE AT THIS TIME? I JUST HAVE ONE, TWO, I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

UM, ONE IS, UH, IS THERE ANY VENTILATION UPGRADES THAT ARE GONNA BE DONE FOR HAVING ANIMALS THERE? UH, I DON'T, I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO AN INTERIOR, UH, FINISH OUT OF THE SPACE.

UH, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS PART OF THAT.

I DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT.

AND THEN, UM, YOU SAY NO CHANGE TO THE LANDSCAPE AREA, BUT WHERE THE, WHEN THE, ANYTIME I BRING MY DOG INTO ANYTHING AND, UH, THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, UM, PETCO, THEY PEE.

SO WHERE IS IT? WHERE ARE THEY GONNA DO THAT? UH, IS THERE LIKE A GRASSY LANDSCAPE? THERE'S THAT GRASS PATCH, WHATEVER.

SO, SO, UM, SO IT'S NOT, THERE'S NOT LIKE GREEN AREAS IN THE PARKING? NO, THERE ISN'T.

THE RESTAURANTS, WHICH I'M SURE THE RESTAURANTS WOULDN'T REALLY CARE TO HAVE DOGS.

THERE ARE SEVERAL, UM, PARKING ISLANDS, UH, LANDSCAPE PARKING ISLANDS IN THE PARKING LOT.

UM, AND THEN, UM, THERE IS THE, UM, AREN'T THOSE TWO DOTTED SECTIONS GRASS? YES.

THIS, THE GREEN SPACE IN FRONT OF, UH, THE EXISTING BUILDING, THAT'S ALL LAWN AREA.

THAT'S LIKELY NOT THE BEST.

AND IN THAT, IN FRONT OF THE RESTAURANT, YES.

YEAH, THAT'S, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA LIKE, AND SO IT'S NOT ALL DOG OWNERS PICK UP, TRUST ME, THAT'S A DOG OWNER ISSUE.

BUT YEAH.

UM, I'M JUST SAYING I WOULD ANTICIPATE THE NEED OF HAVING A LANDSCAPE IS A LANDSCAPE CHANGE.

PUTTING SOMETHING TO THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

AND THEN THE, THE, THE LAST THING I HAVE IS WHEN IT SAYS NO BOARDING, CAN WE BE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT NO OVERNIGHT? OH, YES.

YEP.

BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA FUSS AROUND ABOUT WHAT FORWARDING MEANS, USUALLY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

I THINK YOUR COMMENT ABOUT, UH, THE LANDSCAPE IS, IS VERY WELL SUITED AND APPROPRIATE.

I THINK THERE'S A LANDSCAPE AREA THAT'S LARGELY LIKE A FEATHER GRASS, UH, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE TENANT SPACE, UH, KIND OF BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND, AND THE TENANT SPACE.

THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO CONVERT A LITTLE BIT OF THAT TO TURF.

AND THEN ALSO INCLUDE A PETWAY STATION, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

SO IS THERE ANYTHING BEHIND THIS BUILDING? UH, IT'S SERVICE AREA.

JUST SERVICE.

YEAH, THERE'S, I DON'T, THERE'S ALMOST NO LAWN AREA.

IT'S JUST A FIRE LANE AND IT'S PARKING.

ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE? OKAY.

IF NOT, I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE PODIUM PORTION OF THE MEETING.

UH, LESLIE IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT OR ONLINE? YES.

UH, KATIE, UH, KATIE NICHOLS, SHE'S, UH, THE DESIGN MANAGER FOR, UM, MODERN ANIMAL.

AND THEN, UM, BRENNAN IVY, HE IS THE APPLICANT.

UH, HI, THIS IS ALSO A JOHN EPLEY, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT FOR MODERN ANIMAL.

UH, I'M ON THE CALL AS WELL, UH, AS WELL AS A JULIE TR WHO'S REPRESENTING OUR ARCHITECT OF RECORD FOR THE PROJECT.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OPERATIONAL AND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.

JOHN, CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON YOUR COMPANY AND WHY YOU, HOW YOU ENDED UP IN ADDISON? UH, SURE.

SURE.

IT'S, UM, UH, APPROPRIATE FOR, UM, OUR, OUR TARGET, UH, CUSTOMER BASE, UH, WITHIN, UH, DALLAS.

AS, UH, AS A, UM, PRESENTER, UH, COMMUNICATED, UH, WE ARE EXPANDING, UH, WITH MULTIPLE LOCATIONS WITHIN THE, UH, THE DALLAS AND, UH, AUSTIN MARKETS INTENDED FOR, UH, FOR 2023.

UH, WE, WE HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

I THINK IT MIGHT BE MM-HMM.

, UH, GOOD TO ADD THOSE REPEATED.

MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE US SOME ANSWERS.

SO JULIE, IF YOU COULD ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AGAIN.

IS THERE GONNA BE ANY UPDATING OF THE VENTILATION SYSTEM TO, FOR YOUR, UH, WE, YEAH.

AS PART OF OUR, UH, TENANT IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, UM, IN, IN GENERAL WHEN WE BUILD OUT A MODERN ANIMAL SPACE, WE HAVE TO, UM, UH, PROVIDE, UH, MECHANICAL SYSTEMS THAT, UH, PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, VENTILATION AND, AND EXHAUST THAT ARE APPROPRIATE TO OUR TREATMENT SPACES.

UM, SO THAT, UH, IS PART OF THE, UH, IS PART OF THE SCOPE OF WORK.

OCCUPANTS OF THE, UH, OF THE SITE.

AND THEN, UM, ON THE LANDSCAPING, IT SAYS YOU'RE NOT CHANGING LANDSCAPING, BUT AS THE OWNER OF DOGS, I KNOW THAT YOU NEED A PLACE, THEY'RE GONNA RELIEVE THEMSELVES WHETHER YOU WANT 'EM TO OR NOT GOING IN AND OUT.

AND SO, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS OF CREATING A SPACE OR MAINTAINING A SPACE OR WE, WELL, UH, GENERAL, GENERALLY WE, WE KIND OF LIKE MANAGED THE, THE BEHAVIOR OF OUR, OF OUR CUSTOMER BASE.

WE DO, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING UP AFTER THEIR OWN PETS, BUT WE DO MONITOR ON AN OPERATIONAL BASIS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE SPACE IS KEPT CLEAN FOR, UH, FOR OUR NEIGHBORS AND OTHER, UM,

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UM, OUR SCOPE OF WORK CURRENTLY DOES NOT INCLUDE A SPECIFIC, UM, EXTERIOR LANDSCAPE AREA.

AND THEN, UM, THE LAST THING IS ABOUT THE BOARDING.

MM-HMM.

, I JUST FOR SURE, THERE'S NO ANIMAL GONNA BE THERE OVERNIGHT.

YEAH, I CAN, UH, CAN, UH, SAY THAT DEFINITIVELY THE, THE PRESENTATION WAS ACCURATE.

UM, WITH OUR, UH, OUR OPERATIONS HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT, UH, THROUGH ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS AND WILL BE CONSISTENT TO HOUSE AS WELL.

UH, MODERN ANIMAL OPERATES, UM, AT MOST, UH, 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM UM, AND AT MOST SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

SO WE DO NOT DO ANY OVERNIGHT SERVICES AT ALL.

SO WE DON'T PERFORM EMERGENCY SERVICES AFTER HOURS, AND WE DO NOT DO DO ANY OVERNIGHT BOARDING.

SO IT'LL BE CLOSED FOR BUSINESS AT 6:00 PM DAILY.

SO I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR THAT.

SO IF I BRING MY PET IN AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND THEY HAVE A PROBLEM, AND THE PROBLEM IS NOT SOMETHING NECESSARILY NEEDS TO BE REFERRED TO AN EMERGENCY SPOT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY WOULD, I WOULD FEEL I MIGHT FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE BRINGING MY ANIMAL BACK HOME, BUT MM-HMM.

, BUT IN THIS CASE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M GONNA DO, IS BRING THAT ANIMAL BACK HOME.

UM, I GUESS, UH, AS A HYPOTHETICAL CASE, NOT, NOT NECESSARILY, BUT IN THAT CASE, UH, MODERN ANIMAL ALWAYS, UH, PROVIDES LOCAL PARTNERSHIPS WITH, UH, ANIMAL HOSPITALS THAT DO PROVIDE OVERNIGHT CARE.

SO IN, IN THE EVENT, UM, THAT AN ANIMAL DOES NEED IMMEDIATE TREATMENT THAT EXTENDS BEYOND, IT WOULD BE, UM, UH, THE EXPECTATION, UM, IS THAT THAT ANIMAL WOULD BE TRANSFERRED TO A PLACE THAT CAN, THAT CAN APPROPRIATELY PROVIDE AFTER HOURS CARE.

RECEPTACLES AND BAGS? ABSOLUTELY.

I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU, UH, JOHN, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE CARE MORE ABOUT THEIR PETS THAN THEY DO ABOUT PEOPLE.

AND SO, YES, I THINK THAT IS A BIG, BIG CONSIDERATION.

SO, UNDERSTOOD.

SO FOLLOW UP ON JULIE'S COMMENTS OF YOUR OTHER FACILITIES THAT YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANY THAT ARE LOCATED TO THIS CLOSE TO EATING ESTABLISHMENTS? UM, RIGHT.

I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

UM, UH, YEAH.

WELL, UM, YEAH, I WOULD SAY, UH, YEAH, THEY DO.

UH, CUZ THERE ARE A FEW THAT ARE WITHIN MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

SO A LOT OF 'EM HAVE NOT ONLY, UH, GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, BUT GROUND FLOOR, UH, FOOD SERVICES THAT ARE ADJACENT AND, AND IT'S NOT BEEN AN ISSUE.

IT HAS NOT.

AND THOSE LOCATIONS, DO YOU PROVIDE ANY, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, RECEPTACLES, ANY, ANY WASTE, UM, CANS OR WHATEVER FOR PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE COMING AND THEY ARE NICE ENOUGH TO, YOU KNOW, PICK UP AFTER THEIR ANIMALS? DO YOU PROVIDE CANS? YEAH.

SO, JOHN, THE, THE FLOOR PLAN YOU HAVE IS, IS PRETTY AGGRESSIVE IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS YOU COULD BE TREATING AT ANY ONE TIME, ASSUMING IT GETS BUILT OUT AND, AND, AND GET, AND GETS UP TO SPEED.

UM, SURE.

BASED ON THIS FLOOR PLAN, UH, I'M STILL CONCERNED WITH THE QUESTION THAT JULIE ASKED.

AND SO I'M SITTING HERE IN A WAITING ROOM, UM, OR MY DOG OR CAT HAS JUST BEEN SEEN, AND IT'S TIME FOR THIS, FOR BUSINESS TO HAPPEN.

UH, AND IN THIS LOCATION WHERE I COULD TAKE MY ANIMAL TO RELIEVE THEMSELVES IS PRETTY LIMITED.

AND SO WHAT, WHAT REALLY, WHAT DOES, UH, AN OWNER DO IN THAT SITUATION WHERE I'M SITTING THERE EITHER IN THE LOBBY OR IN THE EXAM ROOM AND MY DOG IS INDICATING THAT IT WANTS TO DO HIS BUSINESS, OR WHERE, WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH, WITH THE PET AT THAT POINT? WELL, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, UM, I'D SAY IF, IF IT'S INSIDE AND IT'S AN EMERGENCY OR THEY, THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T WAIT, OR THEY NEED TO STAY INSIDE, THEN, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE IT'S, IT'S UP TO US.

AND, AND WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATE SPACES WITH DRAINAGE SYSTEMS TO MANAGE THAT IF IT'S WITHIN THE CLINIC.

UM, AND OF COURSE, IF, IF IT'S INSIDE THE CLINIC, THEN IT'S, UH, UM, NOT IMPORTANT TO ANY OF THE ADJACENT TENANTS.

UM, IF IT'S OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, TAKE THE ANIMAL, JUST LIKE IF YOU TAKE THE ANIMAL TO ANY, UM, ANY OTHER, UM, OUTSIDE SPACE OR RESTAURANT, THEY FIND AN APPROPRIATE PLACE, UM, THAT'S OUT OF THE WAY.

AND THEN, UM, EITHER THE OWNER OR, UH, CLINIC STAFF IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ASSISTING IN CLEANUP.

OK.

UH, INTERESTING ANSWER.

BUT I, I GUESS WITH ALL OF FLOOR SPACE I'M SEEING HERE, YOU COULDN'T DEDICATE ONE OR TWO ROOMS TO ARTIFICIAL TURF AND A DRAINAGE SYSTEM WHERE I COULD JUST POP IN AND LET MY DOG DO ITS THING, AND THEN I, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF SPACE HERE THAT COULD BE USED SINCE YOU CERT.

YEAH, CERTAINLY.

A FAIR QUESTION, UM, SINCE YOU'RE BRINGING UP THE FLOOR PLAN, THE INTERIOR FLOOR PLAN, UH, SPECIFICALLY IF YOU DO LOOK

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AT THE WARD SPACE, UH, THE WARD SPACES ARE, UH, EQUIPPED BECAUSE, UM, UH, BECAUSE ANIMALS ARE, ARE, UH, STAYING THERE, UH, SOMETIMES THROUGHOUT THE DAY WHILE THEY'RE AWAITING TREATMENT.

UM, THERE ARE A DRAINAGE SYSTEMS, UM, THAT ARE ALSO EQUIPPED WITH, UM, A HOBI AND CLEANING.

SO THAT, SO THAT IF, IF, AND ANYONE NEEDS TO DO ITS BUSINESS, UM, THEN THEY CAN DO IT THERE AND THEN WE CAN EASILY CLEAN UP WHILE THEY'RE INSIDE THE CLINIC.

SO I HAVE A FOLLOW UP.

SORRY, I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR THAT, SORRY.

MM-HMM.

IS THE EXPECTATION THAT THE PET OWNER IS GONNA STAY WITH THE PET THE ENTIRE TIME THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE FOR SERVICE, UM, ALSO NOT NECESSARILY, UM, CAN BE ONE OR THE OTHER.

SO ALL THE, ALL THE MORE REASON THAT QUESTION THAT TOM ASKED IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT.

WHERE THEY GONNA GO? UH, I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERJECTING.

UH, SO I'M JULIE TR I'M WITH THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD.

UM, IF POSSIBLE I'D LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN JUST SO THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING SPACE.

I BELIEVE IT MAY BE HELPFUL.

AND THIS IS KATIE WITH MODERN ANIMAL.

UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT THE APPOINTMENTS ARE BOOKED THROUGH THE APP AND THERE ARE NO WALK-INS.

SO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE WITH THEIR PETS IS VERY MANAGED.

UH, SO I, I'M SHARING MY SCREEN NOW.

HOPEFULLY YOU CAN ALL SEE IT.

UM, SO THE PHOTO WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS ACTUALLY IN FRONT OF OUR FUTURE SPACE, WHERE IT'S NOTED AS PLANNED PARENTHOOD.

THIS IS THE FUTURE ANTICIPATED LOCATION OF OUR MODERN ANIMAL.

UM, SO SOME OF THE GREEN AREAS YOU'RE SEEING HERE, I BELIEVE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR AN ANIMAL TO RELIEVE ITSELF.

AND THEN OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT, UM, SUITE ONE 10 IS KIND OF THAT DINING AREA.

UM, WHILE I WAS AT A SITE VISIT, WHICH IS WHENEVER I TOOK THIS PHOTO, I ACTUALLY DID OBSERVE ANIMALS, UM, BASICALLY PET OWNERS WALKING THEIR PETS IN THIS AREA.

AND, UH, THE HOPE IS THAT YES, EVERYONE IS RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS AND PICKUP AFTER THEIR PETS, BUT I WOULD BELIEVE THIS IS WHERE YOU COULD TAKE YOUR PET IF THEY NEEDED TO GO.

SO WE DO HAVE A, A PRETTY SIMILAR CONDITION AND THAT IT'S A, IT'S A VETERINARIAN CLINIC IN AN URBAN CONDITION, UM, VERY CLOSE TO THIS AREA.

UM, CITY VET, I WAS GONNA SAY MY VET, WHICH IS THAT IT IS NOT MUCH MORE GRASS THAN THAT.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TIGHT.

UH, YOU CAN SEE, IF YOU GO TO GOOGLE STREET VIEW, YOU SEE THE, AND ANYTIME YOU'RE BY THERE, YOU'LL SEE THE VET TECHS WALKING AROUND DOGS.

UH, I WOULD IMAGINE YOU'D SEE PROBABLY A, A SIMILAR CONDITION HERE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO OPTIMIZE THAT SPACE AND MAYBE LOOK FOR POSSIBLY ANOTHER SPACE NEARBY TO CREATE MORE OF A TURF CONDITION.

YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEBODY LIKE CITI VET AND SOMEBODY LIKE THIS MM-HMM.

, THERE'S NOT NO, THERE'S NOT ANY BUSINESSES THAT THESE ANIMALS ARE WALKING IN FRONT OF AND DISRUPTING ANYTHING.

OR IT'S A LITTLE MORE ON AN ISLAND IN THAT PART OF MONO.

IT'S, IT'S, EVERYTHING'S, EVERYTHING'S FRONTING HERE.

I, YES, BUT I, I COMPLETELY AGREE.

AND I KNOW WHEN, WHEN THEY CAME IN TO REDEVELOP THIS AREA, UM, THAT STRIP, THAT LITTLE GARDEN AREA WAS A BIG SELLING POINT FOR REDEVELOPING THE, THE OLD, UH, SERVICE BUILDING.

I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT THE OWNERS WOULD WANT THEIR VEGETATION TO DEGRADE BECAUSE IT'S BEING USED AS A, AS A, A URINAL.

BUT ANYWAY, UM, JUST A CONCERN THAT, UH, THAT COULD IMPACT YOUR BUSINESS.

UM, 2 CENTS WORTH.

I HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION FOR YOU.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR JULIE OR FOR JOHN, UM, BUT IN YOUR NOTE, IN YOUR LETTER, YOU, AND, AND MAYBE, UH, LESLIE, YOU SAID IT AND I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FOUR VETS, EIGHT, UH, VET TECHS AND THREE SUPPORT STAFF, CORRECT? UH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, A FAIR ASSESSMENT.

I'LL BE THERE EVERY DAY.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT VETS ARE HARD TO, VETS ARE HARDER TO COME BY THAN REGULAR DOCTORS.

SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE YES.

SO ARE WE, ARE YOU, OBVIOUSLY, YOU ARE FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO FIND THESE FOLKS WHERE OTHER PEOPLE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T, UM, SEE WHAT THE QUESTION IS JUST FOR US, CONFIDENCE IN ORDER TO, UH, TO STAFF THE CLINIC.

IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A FAIR POINT THAT IT IS DIFFICULT.

UM, UH, BUT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT, UM, YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, UM, IN ATTRACTING, UH, TALENT, UM, A LOT MORE NAME RECOGNITION.

WE'RE STARTING WHEN WE'RE ENTERING NEW MARKETS, DOING SO EARLIER, UH, AND MORE AGGRESSIVELY, UH, AND WITH, UM, A DEDICATED AND STRONG STAFF

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TO ACHIEVE IT.

AND ACTUALLY QUITE, UM, QUITE HAPPY THAT I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR IT CAUSE IT'S NOT MY STRONG SUIT, BUT, UM, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE, UH, FOR RECRUITMENT, UM, HAVE BEEN VERY, UH, SUCCESSFUL IN THOSE EFFORTS AND WE EXPECT THAT WE'LL, UH, HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF SUCCESS IN DALLAS.

QUESTION FOR YOU, KEN.

AND WE WERE HAVING CONVERSATION ABOUT THE AREAS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE OR USED TO FIGHT THE ANIMALS TO RELIEVE THEMSELVES, AND THERE MIGHT BE WAYS OF PERHAPS IMPROVING THOSE AREAS, PERHAPS WITH, UM, TURF OR WHATEVER.

SO HOW DO WE GO ABOUT INCORPORATING THAT TYPE OF IDEA REQUIREMENT OR WHATEVER? UM, OR DO WE, I THINK PROBABLY THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY FOR, FOR US TO GO ABOUT THAT IS, IS, UH, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLACE CONDITIONS ON, ON YOUR APPROVAL.

I, I'M CONFIDENT THAT, UH, LESLIE, THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNERSHIP RIGHT, CAN FIND A GOOD SOLUTION.

THEY'RE, THEIR PARKING IS WELL OVER WHAT IS, UH, REQUIRED, UM, BASED ON THE, THE USE OF THE CENTER.

SO I THINK, UH, BETWEEN, UH, USING THE MUSIC SPACE AND POSSIBLY CREATING SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE, I THINK THEY CAN COME UP WITH A GOOD SOLUTION.

AND ALSO, OF COURSE, PROVIDING PETWAY STATIONS.

RIGHT.

SO WE CAN JUST ADD, WE COULD JUST ADD THAT TO AS THE, UH, ADDITIONAL CONDITION.

YES, MA'AM.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS YOU TO SPEAK ON THIS? LESLIE, WE GOT ANYBODY SIGNED UP? NOPE.

IF NOT, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PORTION OF THE MEETING.

AND NANCY, I'M GONNA LET YOU ST MAKE A STAB AT THE MOTION SINCE YOU'RE THE ONE WHO KIND OF BROUGHT IT UP.

OH, OKAY.

UM, ALL RIGHT, LET ME GET THIS RIGHT.

I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE, UH, CASE NUMBER 1867 U P 52 90 BELTLINE ROAD, SUITE 1 34 FOR MODERN ANIMAL AS WRITTEN, INCLUDING CONDITIONS AS WRITTEN WITH THE ADDITIONAL CONDITION THAT THERE BE A, UM, SERIOUS EFFORT BY THE APPLICANT, THEIR PROFESSIONALS OR ARCHITECTS, AND THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER TO SEARCH FOR ADDITIONAL AREAS THAT MIGHT IMPROVE, UH, LOCATION FOR ANIMALS TO RELIEVE THEMSELVES WITH, UM, MAYBE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SURFACE, YOU KNOW, A TURF SURFACE OR SOME ADDITIONAL AREA AND, AND THE PET WASTE STATION.

AND PLEASE DON'T ASK US TO REPEAT THAT MOTION.

, I SECONDED.

DID YOU WANNA CLARIFY OVERNIGHT BOARDING IN THE MOTION, OR EXCUSE ME, IN THE CONDITION? THAT'S ONE OF THE CONDITIONS.

SHE SAID THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT THERE BE NO BOARDING, BUT I, SHE SAID BOARD, WE CAN, WE CAN ADD A CLARIFICATION FOR OVERNIGHT BOARDING.

ADD THAT TO THE CONDITION THAT EXISTS.

I HOPE YOU GOT THAT MUCH.

I GOT IT ALL.

JOHN IS SECONDED.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED SAY NAY EXTENSIONS.

ALL RIGHT, PASSES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR HELP ON THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

FOUR, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD, DISTRICT ORDINANCE NUMBERS OH 12 DASH 0 0 2 AND OH TWO ZERO DASH ZERO EIGHT FOR 31.608 ACRE PROPERTY, LOCATED 5,100 BELTLINE ROAD TO ALLOW FOR MODIFICATIONS TO A PROPOSED RETAIL AND OFFICE BUILDING AND ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS.

ITEM NUMBER

[4. Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on a Recommendation regarding an Ordinance Amending the Development Plans for Planned Development (PD) District Ordinance Nos. O12-002 and O20-08 for a 31.608 Acre Property located at 5100 Belt Line Road, to Allow for Modifications to a proposed Retail and Office Building and associated Site Improvements. Case 1869-Z/5100 Belt Line Road (VoP Office/Retail Building).]

THIS IS CASE 1869 C SLASH 5,100 BELTLINE ROAD, PARKWAY, OR VO OFFICE SLASH RETAIL BUILDING PLAN.

STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.

RATIO OF ONE SEAT TO EVERY, EXCUSE ME, ONE SPACE FOR EVERY THREE SEATS.

LESLIE KNIGHT, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE TOWN.

UH, ITEM FOUR ON YOUR AGENDA IS A, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT REQUEST, UH, TO UPDATE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, UH, FOR AN EXISTING, UH, PD 5,100 BELTLINE ROAD.

UH, SPECIFICALLY, UH, APPROVING UPDATED DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR A PROPOSED OFFICE RETAIL BUILDING AT BLOCK 900, UH, AS WELL AS ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, HAS, UH, SUB, UH, SIGNIFICANT, UH, ZONING ACTION.

UM, IN THE PAST, UH, MOST RECENTLY, OR IN 2012, A PLAN DEVELOPMENT WAS, UH, ADOPTED FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE

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CENTER.

UH, THAT WAS LATER AMENDED IN 2020 TO ESTABLISH A MIXED USE, UH, PARKING RATIO OF, UH, FOR, UM, USES.

AND THEN AS, AS WELL AS, UH, SEPARATE RATIO FOR, UH, MOVIE THEATER AS WELL.

UH, IT ALSO, UH, ADOPTED DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE PROPOSED OFFICE RETAIL BUILDING AT BLOCK 900.

UH, AT THAT TIME IT WAS PROPOSED TO BE A TWO-STORY, UM, OFFICE RETAIL BUILDING APPROXIMATELY, UH, 30,000 SQUARE FEET WITH, UM, PARKING AND LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, SURROUNDING IT, UH, BEFORE YOU.

TONIGHT IS A REQUEST FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT, UH, TO UPDATE THOSE DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE OFFICE AND RETAIL BUILDING AT BLOCK 900, UM, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER MINOR, UM, MODIFICATIONS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE, THE CENTER AS WELL, WHICH I WILL, UH, SHARE IN DETAIL THOSE.

SO THE PROPOSED CHANGES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, ARE MORE SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE INCREASE OF THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED OFFICE RETAIL BUILDING FROM TWO STORIES TO THREE STORIES, UH, WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED TO BE 42 FEET IN HEIGHT, AND, UH, THEY ARE NOW PROPOSING IT TO BE 56 FEET IN HEIGHT.

UH, THIS WOULD ADD AN ADDITIONAL, UM, STORY FOR THE OFFICE, UH, COMPONENT.

THE, UM, SECOND SIGNIFICANT ITEM IS THE RELOCATION OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT.

UH, PREVIOUSLY THE, UM, OR I GUESS NOW THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO SHIFT THE BUILDING, BUILDING FOOTPRINT APPROXIMATELY 60 FEET, UH, TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE, UH, BLOCK 900, UH, AREA AND UPDATE THE ASSOCIATED SITE CONDITIONS.

SO PREVIOUSLY, UH, THAT BUILDING WAS, UH, SURROUNDED BY PARKING ON ALL FOUR SIDES AND HAD A, A DRIVE LANE COMPLETELY AROUND THE BUILDING.

UH, WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY PROPOSING IS TO, UM, MOVE THE PROPOSED OFFICE RETAIL BUILDING ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED, UM, OPEN SPACE AND PEDESTRIAN AREA TO CREATE A MORE ENGAGING, UM, OPEN SPACE AND THAT AREA.

UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT REDESIGN OF THE, UM, FACADE OF THE BUILDING, AND WE'LL SEE THAT IN THE, UM, RENDERINGS AND THE FACADE PLAN LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.

AND THEN LASTLY, UH, AS I MENTIONED, SOME MINOR LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CENTER.

UH, SO WITH THE 2020, UM, DEVELOPMENT PLANS, THERE WERE SOME LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, UH, MOST OF THEM, UM, CENTER AROUND THE, UH, MAIN CORRIDOR, UH, THE MAIN EAST, WEST CORRIDOR FROM DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY TO MONTFORD DRIVE THAT IMPROVE SOME LANDSCAPING AREAS AND SOME, SOME PARKING AREAS AS WELL.

BUT OBVIOUSLY, NOT ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS WERE, UM, COMPLETED, AS WE SEE.

UM, BLOCK 900 WAS NOT SO FOR THE PROPOSED, UH, STRUCTURE, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING, UH, JUST UNDER 46,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE THREE STORY, UM, STRUCTURE.

THE FIRST FLOOR WOULD BE, UH, ABOUT 15,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL.

AND THE SECOND AND THIRD, UM, FLOOR WOULD BE JUST OVER 30,000 SQUARE FEET IN OFFICE SPACE.

UM, AS FAR AS STAFF IS AWARE, THIS IS, UM, ALL BEING BUILT SPEC.

THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO, UM, ADD A PATIO, SOME PATIO SPACES OFF OF THE FIRST FLOOR RETAIL.

UH, SO A 2000 SQUARE FOOT COVERED PATIO IS PROPOSED, UH, AT THE, UM, SOUTHEAST CORNER, EXCUSE ME, SOUTHWEST CORNER.

AND THE, UH, SECOND, UM, NON-COVERED PATIO IS ALSO PROPOSED AT THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

AROUND THE BUILDING IS PRO.

THEY'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE A SMALL CANOPIES, ALUMINUM CANOPIES, UM, COVERING THE GROUND FLOOR ENTRANCES.

UH, THESE WILL, UH, PROTRUDE APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET FROM THE BUILDING FACADE, UH, AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE, WHICH IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, UM, SHOWN AT THE TOP OF THE, THE SECOND, UM, OR THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN IS PROPOSED TO HAVE AN APPROXIMATELY 12 FOOT CANOPY, UH, STICKING OUT FROM THE BUILDING.

A ADDITIONALLY, A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE IS PROPOSED TO THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING, UH, WHICH IS SHOWN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN, UH, FOR THE CENTER, UH, LOOKING AT PARKING AS A WHOLE FOR THE ENTIRE VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.

UH, THE, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN 2020 ESTABLISHED A MIXED PARKING RATIO, UH, ONE SPACE FOR 100, ONE SPACE FOR EVERY 225 SQUARE FEET FOR ALL USES, UM, EXCEPT THE MOVIE THEATER, WHICH IS AT A

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UM, WITH THAT, THE, THE CURRENT CONDITIONS TODAY WITH BLOCK 900, UM, VACANT, UH, THAT WOULD REQUIRE, UH, 1,971 SPACES.

UH, AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY PROVIDING, UH, 2,291 SPACES, UH, OBVIOUSLY EXCEEDING THAT REQUIREMENT, UH, WITH THE CURRENT ENTITLEMENT FOR, UM, PLAN DEVELOPMENT 20, UH, EXCUSE ME, FROM THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT FROM 2020 THAT INCLUDED DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE TWO-STORY OFFICE AND RETAIL BUILDING.

UH, THEY'RE CURRENTLY ENTITLED TO, UM, CONSTRUCT THAT 30,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE 2052 PARKING SPACES.

UM, WITH THAT PROPOSAL, THEY WOULD HAVE PRO PROVIDED 2,262 PARKING SPACES, UH, STILL EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM REQUIRE, STILL EXCEEDING THE, THE MAXIMUM, UH, REQUIRED ON SITE.

UH, WITH THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TONIGHT, THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY INCREASING THE FLOOR AREA BY APPROXIMATELY 15,000 SQUARE FEET, SO THEY WILL NEED MORE PARKING.

AND WHAT THAT, UH, WOULD AMOUNT TO IS 2,127 SPACES.

UM, AND WHAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE, AS ON THE PLAN PROPOSED ON THE PLANS WOULD BE 2,260 SPACES.

SO AS PROPOSED, UH, WITH THE ADDITIONAL 15,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, THEY WOULD ONLY BE PROVIDING TWO PARKING SPACES LESS THAN WHAT THEY WOULD, THAN WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY ENTITLED FOR.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS, UM, IS THE PARKING REQUIRED IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL, THE FLOOR FLOOR AREA FOR PROPOSED TREE REMOVAL ON SITE.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS, UM, ACTUALLY ABLE TO REMOVE LESS TREES CURRENTLY, UH, ENTITLED FROM THE 2020 DEVELOPMENT PLANS.

UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE 329 CALIBER INCHES, UM, WITHIN THE BLOCK 900 AREA, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

THEY ARE PROPOSING TO MITIGATE, UH, 249 CALIBER INCHES ON SITE.

UH, THE REMAINING 80, UH, CALIBER INCHES WOULD BE, UH, MITIGATED VIA PAYMENT INTO THE TREE MITIGATION FUND, UH, AROUND $15,000.

UH, STAFF DID WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO TRY TO MITIGATE ADDITIONAL TREES ON SITE.

UH, REALLY, UM, CONTINUE TO RUN INTO, UH, SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES WE'VE SEEN ON THE PAST WITH, UM, OVERHEAD POWER LINES, UM, BEING IN THE WAY.

UM, JUST NOT ENOUGH, UM, AREA, UH, OPEN SPACE AREA FOR ADDITIONAL TREES WITH THE, UM, OPEN SPACE PROPOSED.

AS YOU CAN SEE ALL, UH, ON THE, UH, SITE PLAN ON THE, OR EXCUSE ME, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, UH, THE PURPLE AREA SHOWED VARIOUS, UM, PLANTING AREAS, UH, UH, USUALLY A MIXED PLANTING.

AND THEN THE GREEN INDICATES A, A LAWN AREA OR SOD.

SO THE REQUIRED, UM, OPEN SPACE FOR THE ENTIRE CENTER IS, IS 20%.

UM, THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY MEETING THAT, UH, IT'S CURRENT CONDIT CONDITIONS ARE JUST UNDER 8% OF THE SITE AS, UH, OPEN SPACE OR LANDSCAPED AREA.

UH, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT FROM 20, THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS FROM 2020, UH, PROPOSED 10.9%.

AND WITH THE PROPOSAL THIS EVENING, THEY ARE, UH, DECREASING BY ABOUT 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF OPEN SPACE, UH, TO 10.21%.

HOWEVER, UH, THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN, UM, HAS A LITTLE BIT, UH, I GUESS THE OPEN SPACE IS MORE IMPACTFUL AND, UH, USABLE AS YOU'LL SEE.

UM, SO THE, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN BEFORE YOU, THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN FROM, UM, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPROVED IN 2020.

THE, THERE IS PARKING ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING WITH VARIOUS PARKING ISLANDS AND A DRIVE AISLE, AND A LOT OF THE OPEN SPACE IS, IS SEPARATED AND NOT CONTINUOUS.

UM, GOING BACK TO THE, THE NEW PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, YOU REALLY HAVE A LOT OF THE, UH, THE OPEN SPACE CONCENTRATED IN ONE CONTINUOUS AREA, UH, RATHER THAN HAVING IT SEPARATED BY MANY DIFFERENT LANDSCAPE ISLANDS.

AND IT, IT CREATES A REALLY, UM, DISJOINTED OPEN SPACE AND MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR VARIOUS,

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YOU KNOW, PROGRAMMING AND THINGS WITHIN THIS OPEN SPACE.

MOVING FORWARD TO LANDSCAPE AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WITH, IN 2020, UM, THERE WERE, UH, SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN PROPOSED INCLUDING A, UH, BUS STOP ALONG MONTFORD, UH, THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING TO CHANGE THAT, THAT WILL STILL BE, UH, THAT IS STILL PROPOSED.

UH, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS THE 2020 DEVELOPMENT PLANS.

THESE ARE THE, UM, LANDSCAPE PLAN RENDERINGS.

ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS THE PROPOSED.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE ARE VERY SIMILAR, UH, IN DESIGN INTENT FOR THE LANDSCAPE AREA.

UH, SOME, UH, MAJOR DIFFERENCES YOU CAN SEE ON THE, THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

UH, YOU HAVE THE BUILDING UP AGAINST THE LANDSCAPE AREA RATHER THAN PARKING HEADING INTO IT.

UH, AND THEN THEY HAVE A LARGER, A LARGER SIDEWALK PROPOSED ALONG THE EDGE, THE EDGE WHERE THE RETAIL MEETS THE LANDSCAPE, AS WELL AS A PATIO AREA.

AND THEN, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LANDSCAPE AREA, THAT, UH, FRONTS LONG TERM ON LONGMONT FOR DRIVE.

PREVIOUSLY THEY PROPOSED, UH, UM, DG DECOMPOSED GRANITE.

DECOMPOSED GRANITE, THANK YOU.

UM, DECOMPOSED GRANITE FOR THE TRAIL AND THEY'RE NOW PROPOSING CONCRETE.

AND THEN, UH, ONCE AGAIN, I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION THERE WERE SOME MINOR LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE CENTER.

UH, YOU'LL SEE ON YOUR SCREEN THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT TRICKY TO SEE, BUT, UH, THERE ARE MANY AREAS THAT ARE, HAVE EXCEPTIONALLY WIDE SIDEWALKS, CONCRETE AREAS, UM, BACK OF HOUSE AREAS.

FOR EXAMPLE, UM, BEHIND THE MOVIE THEATER THAT ARE CURRENTLY, UH, CONCRETE, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO, UM, CONVERT THOSE TO OPEN SPACE GREEN SPACE, UH, AND ADD PLANTING TO THEM.

UM, THESE JUST, UM, ADD SOME AESTHETIC IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE, UM, CENTER FOR THE EXTERIOR, UH, APPEARANCE.

THIS IS A, UH, SIGNIFICANT, UM, DEVIATION FROM WHAT WAS APPROVED IN 2020.

AS YOU CAN SEE, OBVIOUSLY THE HEIGHT FROM TWO STORY TO THREE STORY, UH, BUT THEN WITH THE, UM, INTRODUCTION WITH A SIGNIFICANTLY MORE, UH, PROPOSED GLASS.

SO THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 60 PER ON EACH FACADE HAS APPROXIMATELY 60% GLASS.

UH, WITH THE SECOND AND THIRD STORIES BEING PRIMARILY, UM, GLAZING STAFF, UH, SENT OUT NOTICES TO EIGHT RECIPIENTS, UH, NOTIFYING THEM OF THIS REQUEST.

AND WE DID NOT, UH, GET RESPONSE FROM ANY OF THEM.

UH, AND IN CONCLUSION, STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, UM, WITH THE CONDITION THAT A DETAILED LANDSCAPE PLAN BE SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW WITH THE CIVIL PLANS.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, LESLIE.

COMMISSIONERS, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR LAST ON THE EIGHT PEOPLE THAT YOU SENT, UH, NOTICES OUT TO, WAS ONE OF THEM HAPPY TO BE, UH, WHOLE FOODS? SO IT'S SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.

SO THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, IS VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY? UH, I DON'T BELIEVE, UH, WHOLE WHOLE FOODS DOESN'T OWN THE, THE LAND.

10 FOR OUR, FOR OUR, UM, MEETING IN JANUARY.

SO THEY WEREN'T PULLED OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

OUR PROPERTY OWNER WILL BE ABLE TO CLARIFY.

UM, OKAY.

UH, IF THERE'S BEEN ANY COMMUNICATION WITH WHOLE FOODS.

SO AS, I'M GONNA HAVE YOU PULL OUT YOUR CALCULATOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

UM, IF, IF ON THE PARKING IS EASY, UH, IF I, IF I ADDED UP YOUR NUMBERS CORRECTLY, THERE'S GONNA BE 156 SPACES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BUILDING.

UM, YOU HAD SOME BEFORE AND AFTER NUMBERS THERE, YOU'RE GOING FROM 1971 TO 2127.

SO I'M JUST GOING, MY, MY MATH, IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT 156 ADDED SPACES.

SO IF THIS WAS A STANDALONE FACILITY, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS IF 156 SPACES, IF, IF MY NUMBER, MY MATH'S CORRECT WOULD BE SU WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR THE BUILDING, UM, JUST AS A STANDALONE FACILITY.

THAT'S ONE.

AND, AND I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS WHERE WE ARE.

AND THE SAME THING ON THE LANDSCAPE.

UM, THE, THE, IT KIND OF GETS LOST BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE COMPLEX THERE, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE'S, THERE'S AT LEAST 20%, BUT I'D BE KIND OF CURIOUS, AGAIN, IF THIS WAS A STANDALONE FACILITY, HOW MUCH OF THAT LANDSCAPE IN THERE PROPOSED IS THE PERCENT OF THEIR, OF THAT, OF THAT AREA.

SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE TWO NUMBERS AND YOU CAN WORK ON THOSE WHILE WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS AND STUFF.

UM, AND THEN I HAD A THIRD QUESTION, WHICH WAS

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UM, COULD YOU HAVE JANET COME IN AND, AND GIVE US A SUMMARY OF OVER THE PAST YEAR ALL THE TREE MITIGATION DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN ACCUMULATED, WHERE THEY'RE ALL GOING, UM, OR HAVE GONE, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS WHERE THIS $15,000, UM, STACKS UP.

CUZ WE'VE PUT A LOT OF MONEY TO THAT FUND AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE SEEN ANY REAL RESULTS.

THAT'S JUST KINDA A SIDE SIDE COMMENT.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW WHILE LESLIE'S WORKING ON THE OTHER STUFF.

ANY COMMISSION? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE? OKAY, IF NOT, SO JUST A FOLLOW UP ON TOM'S QUESTION, ARE WE REALLY ADDING 156 SPOTS? I MEAN, THE WAY THAT I INTERPRETED THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, UH, THE PARKING REQUIRED IS 1971, BUT THEN THE PARKING PROVIDE IS 20 22 91.

ARE WE ADDING SPOTS? WE'RE, WELL, SO THE, WE WERE, THE CENTER AS A WHOLE IS ALREADY OVER PARKED AND EVEN WITH WHAT'S PROPOSED, THE CENTER REMAINS OVER PARKED.

NOT THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S SITE SPECIFIC ISSUES AND I'M NOT TRYING TO, UM, IGNORE THOSE, BUT AS FAR, FAR AS HOW WE REGULATE PARKING ON THIS SITE, THEY ARE UNDER WHAT IS REQUIRED OR THEY HAVE MORE PARKING SUPPLY THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR CAPACITY.

RIGHT.

AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT RIGHT? I AM JUST KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO IF THIS WAS A STANDALONE AND THE ONE 50, THE, SO JUST, I JUST, JUST GENERAL, JUST GENERALLY I CAN SAY NO TO THAT BECAUSE THEY PLAN FOR THIS AS IT'S IN A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT.

SO, UM, JUST ASSUMING THE 1 56 IS THE NUMBER, IF YOU SIMPLY APPLY THAT TO OUR CURRENT OFFICE PARKING RATIO, UH, ONE TO 300 FOR A 45,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT'S GONNA PUT YOU AT 150 SPACES.

WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE RETAIL RESTAURANT, THOSE WILL HAVE A LOWER PARKING RATIO THAN, UH, OFFICE OR WILL REQUIRE MORE SPACES THAN OFFICE.

BUT ONCE AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT AND THERE'S DIFFERENT PEAK OPERATIONAL TIMES FOR THE OFFICES VERSUS THE RETAIL AND RESTAURANT, THAT'S WHY WE REGULATE IT THE WAY WE'RE REGULATED.

NO, I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT KEN.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS JUST GET A FRAMEWORK OF, OF THERE'S SOME CONCERN ABOUT CAUSING PARKING ISSUES FURTHER INTO THE COMPLEX, PARTICULARLY THE WHOLE FOODS.

BUT IF THE 150 IS WITHIN 30 OR 40 OF WHAT IT WOULD BE JUST ON A STANDALONE, THEN THAT GIVES ME A LOT MORE COMFORT THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO ABSORB ALL THOSE 40 OR 50 EXTRA PEOPLE OTHER PLACES.

BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 500 PLACES THAT'D BE REQUIRED FOR THIS OFFICE BUILDING AND YOU ONLY HAVE 150, YOU KNOW, 150 OR SO, THEN THAT REQUIRES A LOT MORE CARS TO BE PUT OTHER PLACES.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A FRAMEWORK OF, OF WHAT IMPACT THIS COULD HAVE ON THE OVERALL PARKING FACILITY.

SO I JUST WAS KIND OF CURIOUS HOW THE HUNDRED 50 OR SO COMPARES IF THIS WAS A STANDALONE.

SO WHERE, WHERE IT GETS TRICKY IS WHERE THEY WOULD PROPOSE RESTAURANT USE.

UM, CURRENTLY THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO RESTAURANT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, AN S AND P IS REQUIRED FOR A RESTAURANT.

SO IF WE ASSUMED IT'S ALL RETAIL, THAT WOULD BE ONE SCENARIO.

I THINK IT'S FAIR TO ASSUME WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE AT LEAST ONE RESTAURANT THEY CAN WEIGH IN ON THAT OF COURSE.

SO IT WILL VARY A LITTLE BIT BASED ON THE USES OF THE GROUND FLOOR.

JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE, PUT IT ALL RETAIL IN OFFICE AND JUST SEE WHAT YOU COME UP WITH.

SO, AND THEN ALSO ON THE LANDSCAPE ALSO, CUZ IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THAT MORE OF 20% JUST IN THAT ONE LITTLE AREA THERE.

SO I CAN ADDRESS BOTH YOUR QUESTIONS.

SO, UM, FOR, FOR EASY NUMBERS, I ROUNDED THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO 45,000.

UH, AND SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, FOR OUR STANDARD, UM, OFFICE, UM, RATIO IS ONE TO 300.

SO LOOKING AT UH, YOUR 30,000 SQUARE FEET OF THAT, UH, YOU'D BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A HUNDRED PARKING SPACES AND THEN YOUR GROUND FOR ASSUMING IT'S ALL RETAIL, IS A RATIO OF ONE TO 200.

THAT'S OUR STANDARD, UM, RATIO FOR OUR, UM, STANDARD ZONING DISTRICTS.

AND THAT WOULD, FOR 15,000, THAT WOULD REQUIRE 75 SO HUNDRED 75 SPACES, UH, FOR THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THIS, UM, BUILDING WAS IN A LOCAL RETAIL.

WITH REGARDS TO FLEXIBLE SCHEDULES AND WORKING FROM HOME.

DISTRICT EXAMPLE.

AND AGAIN, IF MY MATH IS RIGHT, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE AROUND 150 SPACES.

I COUNTED LIKE 1 67 IS WHAT I COUNTED.

YEAH, IF YOU TOUCH THE PARKING LOT TO THE NORTHEAST AND THE ONE TO THE SOUTH.

SO THEY BASICALLY, IF PEOPLE PARK THAT'S IN THE AREA WHERE THE OFFICE IS, THERE SHOULD BE VERY LITTLE OF ANY IMPACT ON THE INTERIOR PARKING, IS WHAT I GET FROM THAT.

IS THAT RIGHT? RIGHT.

I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

AND I'M OF THE OPINION BASED ON, UH, CURRENT, UH, OFFICE TRENDS AND TRENDS THAT ARE LIKELY TO CARRY FORWARD IN THE FUTURE

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THE OFFICE PARKING RATIOS ARE PROBABLY, UH, MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THEY NEED TO BE.

OKAY, WELL THAT JUST MAKES ME FEEL A BIT BETTER BY THE WHOLE FOODS SITUATION THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE COMPETING WITH A HUNDRED PEOPLE TRYING TO PARK IN THE WHOLE FOODS AREA, CUZ THAT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.

A LANDSCAPE YES, ON THE LANDSCAPE.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING, UM, EXCLUSIVELY AT THE, UM, BLOCK 700 LIMITS, SO THE AREA SHOWN, WHERE'S MY CURSOR? UH, ON THIS MAP IN THE DOTTED, UM, DASH LINE, IF YOU'RE ONLY THAT AREA, UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING 18.75% LANDSCAPE AREA, UM, IN RELATION TO THE 20% REQUIRED.

UH, WHEN CONSIDERING THE REMAINDER OF THE, THE CENTER, UH, THIS IS EXCEPTIONALLY HIGHER THAN, THAN ANYWHERE ELSE.

THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S, APPRECIATE THAT.

KUDOS ON THE RAPID MASS THERE, .

PROBABLY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, BUT WE THINK THIS IS A, A REALLY GOOD ENHANCEMENT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LESLIE? IF NOT, I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.

I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT.

UH, JONATHAN VINCENT.

GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

JONATHAN.

GOOD.

SEE YOU MR. CHAIR.

UH, YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE, JONATHAN.

AND THEN, UH, IF YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION, WE'D BE GLAD TO HEAR IT.

OTHERWISE WE'LL JUST OPEN UP OUR QUESTIONS.

YES, SIR.

UH, WELL AGAIN, UH, CHAIR, UH, SAS COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MY NAME IS JONATHAN VINCENT, 2323 ROSS AVENUE, AND HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING, UH, VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY OWNERSHIP.

UM, IN THIS ZONING REQUEST, UM, I LIKE THIS SLIDE A LOT GOING, JUST LEAVE IT UP.

I'LL TALK FROM BRIEFLY AND I, I'LL KEEP THIS PRETTY SUCCINCT.

UH, THE FIRST THING I WANNA DO IS INTRODUCE OUR TEAM THAT'S HERE.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, I BELIEVE JASON JONES FROM OWNERSHIP, UH, MY COLLEAGUE TORI MORRIS, UH, CAITLIN, BOB FROM MCKINLEY HORN, OUR ENGINEERS, UH, SCOTT CONGA FROM G F F.

AND IS THAT BRAD? YES, BRAD SMITH.

ALSO G F OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.

SO WE'VE GOT ALL THE DISCIPLINES REPRESENTED HERE.

ANY QUESTION YOU MIGHT THINK OF? I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN FEEL, UM, SO JUST, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STAFF REPORT I THOUGHT WAS EXCELLENT.

UH, VERY THOROUGH.

UM, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING IN IT, INCLUDING THE RECOMMENDATION, SO I CAN'T REALLY IMPROVE ON THAT.

I TH I THINK, UH, MR. SCHMIDT AND, UH, MS. KNIGHT DID A GREAT JOB OF NOT JUST EXPLAINING THE REQUEST, BUT WHY, AND WE OBVIOUSLY AGREE WHY WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR SEVERAL REASONS.

AND I, AND I THINK THE DISCUSSION THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH HAS BEEN VERY INFORMATIVE, UH, ON THE PARKING AND THE LANDSCAPE.

SO I THINK THAT HELPS A LOT TOO.

YOU KNOW, JUST TO KIND OF KEEP IT SHORT, UM, WE ARE ASKING TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, SITE PLAN, LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR BLOCK 900.

WE THINK THIS IS A BETTER DESIGN THAN WHAT WAS ON THE BOOKS BEFORE.

UM, AGAIN, YOU'VE HEARD THIS, THE, THE BUILDING IS, UM, CHANGED TO ORIENT TO THE NORTHEAST.

YOU SEE THE PARKING ON THE NORTHEAST, YOU KNOW, MUCH ENHANCED LANDSCAPING.

UH, WE THINK THIS IS GONNA BE AN IMPROVEMENT NOT JUST FOR BLOCK 900, BUT BEING PRETTY MUCH KIND OF IN THE CENTER OF THE OVERALL VILLAGE.

WE THINK THIS IS GONNA ENHANCE THE MIXED USE CHARACTER, ENHANCE THE WALKABILITY.

IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THE RENDERINGS DOWN THERE, THIS IS GONNA BE VERY NICE.

IT'S GONNA BE KIND OF A DESTINATION.

IF YOU'RE WALKING AROUND THE VILLAGE, IT MAYBE IF YOU'RE WALKING FROM, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE ELSE CLOSE BY IN THE TOWN OR, YOU KNOW, FROM SOMEWHERE IN THE VILLAGE TO ANOTHER DESTINATION, THIS IS GONNA BE A NICE AREA TO WALK TO, TO, TO WALK THROUGH WEATHER, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, THE, THE OFFICE SPACE, UH, WE THINK THAT THERE'S A MARKET FOR FIRST CLASS OFFICE SPACE.

SO WE WOULDN'T BE DOING THIS, UH, THE PARKING, UH, GREAT, UH, ANALYSIS, UH, ON THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT REALLY TELLS THE STORY.

UM, I AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN MY EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, AN OFFICE RATIO OF, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE, DEPENDING ON THE CITY, ONE TO 300, ONE TO THREE 50, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THIS IS EVEN ON A STANDALONE BASIS, IF THIS WAS NOT A MIXED USE PD WITH EXCESS PARKING, WHICH IS WHAT OUR SITUATION REALLY IS, THIS, YOU KNOW, IT COULD, IT COULD BASICALLY PARK IN MOST CITIES PER CODE.

UM, SAME THING WITH THE RETAIL.

I AGREE WITH MR. SCHMIDT.

UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, OFFICE IS ONE OF THE USES, UH, NOWADAYS THAT IT'S PROBABLY OVER PARKED.

UH, MOST OF OUR CODES IN OUR CITIES ARE, YOU KNOW, GO BACK A FEW DECADES.

I, I THINK THOSE ADJUSTMENTS ARE BEING MADE, YOU KNOW, OFFICE REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, SOMETIMES THE BROKERS AND THE TENANTS ASK FOR MORE PARKING THAN THE CITIES DO.

SO THAT, BUT THAT'S OUR PROBLEM.

THAT'S NOT THE MUNICIPALITIES PROBLEM.

UH, THE PARKING AND WHOLE FOODS, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK BY ORIENTING THE PARKING ON THE OTHER SIDE, I, IT'S GONNA BE OBVIOUS FOR THE OFFICE TENANTS.

THAT'S WHERE THEY PARK.

JUST ANECDOTALLY, I HAD A MEETING, UM, IN THIS AREA A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND I STOPPED AT WHOLE FOODS, UH, TO PICK UP SOME LUNCH TO TAKE BACK TO MY OFFICE.

AND I HAD NO PROBLEM AT ALL.

THIS WAS ON A WEEKDAY MORNING ABOUT 1130.

UM, THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE QUITE A FEW CARS THERE, BUT THERE WERE QUITE A FEW PARKING SPACES AS WELL.

SO, JUST TO, TO SUM UP, I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME CUZ YOU

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UM, IT'S A GOOD ENHANCEMENT FOR THE CENTER.

YOU KNOW IT, IT ENHANCES THE MIXED USE CHARACTER.

THE OFFICE OBVIOUSLY IS A DAYTIME USE.

UM, IT IMPROVES THE SHARING OF PARKING, WHICH IS WHAT YOU, THAT'S WHAT MIXED USE IS ALL ABOUT FROM A PARKING STANDPOINT.

UM, YOU SEE THE, THE LANDSCAPE, UM, AS LESLIE SAID, IT'S, YOU KNOW, ON THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK IT'S ABOUT 1870 5%.

SO I, I THINK IT'S A BIG IMPROVEMENT, UM, AND, UH, AND HAVE A, A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE CENTER OF INCENTIVES OVERALL.

UM, SO I, THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR Y'ALL'S APPROVAL.

UM, I'M ANTICIPATING THERE MIGHT BE SOME QUESTIONS, WHOEVER'S THE RIGHT PERSON WILL, WILL TAKE THOSE ON.

UM, IS THE RETAIL PASS THROUGH, IT'S GONNA HAVE ENTRANCE, THE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL ENTRANCES ON BOTH SIDES? THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

AND IF SO, WHERE IS THERE BACK OFFICE SPACE.

SO I'M TOLD THERE IS, UH, YEAH, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE INDIVIDUAL TENANTS ON EXACTLY HOW THEY WANNA LAY OUT THEIR SPACE.

DOES THEIR WORK, THEIR BACK OFFICE IS GOING TO BE ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND NOT PART INTO THE OFFICE SPACE ABOVE? YES, CORRECT.

ALL IN THE ROOM.

ONE THING THAT CAME UP IN THE WORK SESSION, UH, ABOUT THE, THE ADJACENT, UH, DEVELOPMENT PRESTON WOULD PLACE, UM, SO THE OFFICE BUILDING AND THAT PROJECT INCLUSIVE OF THE GROUND FLOOR RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL, UH, IS UH, 64,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO IT'S A LOT BIGGER, ALMOST 20%.

THAT MAKES CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE PART PARKING IN WHOLE FOODS AND COMING ACROSS.

SO FROM THE, IF YOU GO BACK, LESLIE, WHERE THE PARKING IS, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GONNA BE AN ENTRANCE TO THE RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

WILL THERE BE AN ENTRANCE TO THE RETAIL THROUGH THE LANDSCAPED AREA? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.

IT'S GONNA BE BOTH SIDES.

IT'LL BE NORTHEAST AND THE SOUTHEAST.

IT'LL, YOU'LL HAVE A KIND OF A FRONT DOOR AND A BACK DOOR.

THERE'S TWO FRONT DOORS.

BUT, BUT I THINK IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO HAVE A, A RETAIL ENTRANCE ON THAT SIDE.

YOU KNOW, THE OFFICE TENANTS, THEY'RE GONNA SHOW UP IN THEIR CARS, THEY'RE GONNA PARK AS CLOSE AS THEY CAN TO THEIR OFFICE.

THEY'RE GONNA GO UPSTAIRS AND GO TO WORK.

THE RETAIL TENANTS MIGHT, THEY MIGHT BE WALKING TO SEVERAL OF THE SHOPS AND RESTAURANTS IN BUILDINGS.

I JUST THINK IT'S A LITTLE FUNKY WITH THE OFFICE SPACE BECAUSE OF ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.

JOHNSON OR ANY OTHER FOLKS HERE? YES, SIR.

CHRIS, ANY THOUGHT ON WHO THE, WHO YOUR USERS MIGHT BE ON THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR? UM, I MEAN, DO YOU THINK IT'LL STRICTLY BE JUST OFFICE NINE TO FIVE? I MEAN, DO YOU SEE ANY OTHER USERS THAT MIGHT TAKE THAT SPACE BESIDES JUST OFFICE? JASON, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO, Y'ALL HAVE PROBABLY GIVEN SOME THOUGHT TO THAT.

I MEAN, TO ME, OFFICE, YOU KNOW, NOW , UM, WE PROBABLY ALL KNOW FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE AN OFFICE TYPE JOB, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU WORK INTO THE EVENING OR, YOU KNOW, AN ODD HOURS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS AS, UM, AS KIM POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE ALL DISCOVERED OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS WE CAN DO THINGS BY ZOOM OR, YOU KNOW, SITTING IN OUR DINING ROOM TABLE OR WHATEVER.

SO IT, IT'S, IT'S BECOME VERY DIFFICULT TO, YOU KNOW, PREDICT A STRICT NINE TO FIVE OFFICE USAGE SCHEDULE.

BUT, UM, SO I, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA VARY DURING THE DAY, JASON, IS THAT, YEAH, OUR INTENTION IS CERTAINLY TO BE MORE A GENERAL CORPORATE OFFICES THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

UH, WE THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS OFFERS SOME REAL AMENITIES THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE ACCESS TO RESTAURANTS AND THE ACCESS TO SHOPPING AND EVERYTHING THAT THAT'LL BE THERE.

UM, SO WE, THAT IS CERTAINLY THE INTENTION.

WELL, AND I WOULD, I WOULD ADD TOO, JUST SORT OF A TECHNICAL LAND USE STANDPOINT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS SLATED FOR OFFICE FLOORS TWO AND THREE OR SLATED FOR OFFICE, IF SOMEBODY SHOWED UP AND APPLIED FOR A CO FOR SOMETHING THAT YOUR STAFF LOOKED AT AND SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, THIS IS NOT OFFICE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET RIGHT.

A FINISH OUT PERMIT OR, SO, AND I, I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION.

SO I, I HAVE TO AGREE THE NEW CONFIGURATION WORKS BETTER, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PARKING SORT OF CONCENTRATED IN ONE AREA.

UM, I MEAN, ANY THOUGHT TO HOW YOU WOULD POLICE THAT? I MEAN, AS, AS YOU HAVE TENANTS TAKING UP THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR, I MEAN, I'M SURE OBVIOUSLY THAT GETS COMMUNICATED, BUT I MEAN, WHERE THERE'LL BE SIGNAGE FOR OFFICE PARKING OR HOW, HOW DO YOU SEE THAT WORKING? YEAH, IT'S EXCELLENT QUESTION AND ACTUALLY HITS ON ANOTHER POINT THAT SOMEBODY RAISED EARLIER OF, YOU KNOW, WHOLE FOODS AND, AND HOW INVOLVED WERE THEY IN THIS PROCESS? AND WE ACTUALLY SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH WHOLE FOODS AND, AND LEASE AMENDMENT WITH HIM TO HELP ADDRESS HOW WE WERE GONNA HANDLE THE PARKING AT THIS BUILDING, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE A VERY IMPORTANT TENANT TO US.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE, THEY WERE COMFORTABLE.

AND THAT WAS PART OF THE, THE IDEA OF REORIENTING THE BUILDING WAS TO HELP ENSURE THAT WE COULD SEPARATE THE PARKING FOR WHOLE FOODS FROM THE PARKING FOR THIS BUILDING.

AND SO AS PART OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PART OF THE VALE PLAN THAT BE PUT IN PLACE FOR THIS BUILDING TO ADDRESS THAT.

AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, SIGNAGE

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AND THEN OFFICE SPACE WILL HAVE DESIGNATED TENANTS.

AND I BELIEVE YOU ASKED THE QUESTION EARLIER TOO, ABOUT DO WE HAVE A PERCENTAGE COUNT FOR EMPLOYEE PARKING? FORTUNATELY, WE DO NOT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO WORK ON AND, YOU KNOW, WE INHERITED A LOT OF LEASES.

SO WHAT WE DO NOW AT ALL OF OUR NEW LEASES IS TO, TO, UH, PUSH FOR EMPLOYEE PARKING TO BE IN THE GARAGE THAT WE CAN HELP OPEN UP PARKING THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE CENTER.

AND THAT WOULD BE THE SAME THING THAT WE'LL BE WORKING ON HERE AS WELL.

WHEN IS THE WHOLE FOODS LEASE? I, I DON'T IT, THERE'S STILL SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME.

I DON YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

JASON, COULD YOU, UH, SHARE YOUR, UH, AN INTRODUCTION AND YOUR ROLE WITH THE MILITARY PARKWAY? YES.

CERTAINLY.

THANKS AGAIN FOR, FOR DOING THAT.

SO, AND JASON TO THAT IN, COULD, COULD YOU JUST FLESH JONATHAN THE PODIUM, CERTAINLY NAME, YOU KNOW, FOR THE RECORD NAME AND YEAH.

SO JASON JONES, UH, I AM THE MANAGER OF VO O P PARTNERS LC, THE OWNERSHIP ENTITY FOR VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.

AND, AND GENERALLY MANAGE KIND OF THE, THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE CENTER, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR PROPERTY MANAGER.

UH, THE ADDRESS IS 5,000 THOUSAND ONE SPRING VALLEY, SUITE FOUR 50 E UH, DALLAS, TEXAS.

YOU'VE GOT A FAIR SHOT AT SOME QUESTIONS OF JAMES RIGHT NOW.

SOMEONE ASKED EARLIER, I'LL JUST REPEAT THE QUESTION.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT WHOLESALE FOODS ARE AT THIS ONE? ? WHAT'S THAT? WHAT THE WHOLESALE FOODS ARE AT THIS ONE? SALES, NO, UNFORTUNATELY WE DO NOT GET THOSE, DO THEY NOT, IS IT NOT PART OF THEIR REQUIREMENT OF THEIR LEASE? THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.

JUST NOTICE THAT YOU, YOU GUYS ARE ATTEMPTING TO, TO DO A LOT WITH THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND IT'S OBVIOUS WHEN, WHEN I DRIVE THROUGH THERE, ONE THING YOU PUT US SOME SHUTTLE STOP SIGNS, BUT THERE'S NO INDICATION IS HOW OFTEN THAT SHUTTLE COMES BY OR, OR WHAT TIME.

SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE THE SIGN UP THERE AT ALL.

CAUSE I JUST, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T STAND THERE AT THAT SIGN WAITING FOR A SHUTTLE CAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S COMING.

ARE YOU GUYS GONNA MEND THOSE SIGNS, GIVES THE PEOPLE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION THERE? YEAH, SO AS, AS PART OF THE VALET PROGRAM WE'RE WORKING ON, UM, WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING A FULL SHUTTLE SERVICE RUNNING AROUND THE PROPERTY, UH, WITH MUCH MORE DEDICATED SIGNAGE, UM, TO ADDRESS THAT.

CAN YOU GIVE US A, UH, YOU KNOW, 32ND UPDATE ON WHAT THE VALLEY PROGRAM'S GONNA BE? YEAH, CERTAINLY.

SO, UH, WE WERE WORKING WITH LONE STAR LA WHO YOU MAY KNOW, WORKS WITH A LOT OF HIGH-END CENTERS LIKE LEGACY WEST AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER CENTERS.

AND SO, UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW WE'VE IDENTIFIED SIX POINTS ACROSS THE PROPERTY, UM, WHERE WE'D LIKE TO HAVE LA SERVICES.

WE HAVE CURRENTLY IMPLEMENTED THREE, THERE'S TWO THAT WERE THERE EXISTING.

WE'VE ADDED ONE MORE.

PART OF IT WAS, WAS HAVING A STAGE APPROACHED SO THAT WE COULD, UH, ADDRESS HOW THE VALET SERVICES IMPACTED OTHER TENANTS.

AND, AND FRANKLY WE WERE ANTICIPATING HAVING MORE IN PLACE ALREADY, BUT WE GOT SOME PUSHBACK FROM SOME OF THE TENANTS.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS OF WHERE PARKING IS GOING TO BE FURTHER THE VALET.

UH, AND SO AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THAT, WE'LL WE'LL BE OPENING UP ADDITIONAL SPACES.

SO IS THAT A VALLEY SERVICE WHERE YOU CAN DROP AT ONE PLACE AND PICK UP AT A DIFFERENT? CORRECT.

THAT'S GREAT.

AND THEN MAY NOTICE AS WELL IN THE, THE BLOCK 700, WE'VE OPENED UP A VALLEY LANE HERE, UM, TO HELP THE, THE TRAFFIC FLOW THROUGH THERE.

AND THAT'S NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AREA.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.

OH, YOU'RE DOING WITHIN, YOU'RE TAKING NOT JUST IN FRONT OF PARKING SPOTS, YOU'RE ACTUALLY EXACTLY.

WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING IN A A I JUST MEANT A PARK AND THEY'RE STILL PARKING ON EACH SIDE.

SO, SO I HAVE A QUESTION AND THEN A FOLLOW UP COMMENT QUESTION.

SO YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH WHOLE FOODS ONGOING ARE OVER, UH, THEY HAVE ALL BEEN COMPLETED.

AND THEY'RE HAPPY.

YEAH, THEY'RE, UM, THE SECOND QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, PARKING IN THE DAYTIME AT NIGHTTIME ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THERE, RIGHT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE BUSY IN THE DAY, BUT TOTALLY DIFFERENT AT NIGHT.

WHEN YOU GO INTO THAT PARKING GARAGE IN THE DAYTIME, THERE'S NOBODY IN THERE, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY NOBODY THERE AT NIGHT.

WHAT IS THAT PARKING LOT? I DON'T GO THERE AT NIGHT.

WHAT DOES THAT PARKING LOT LOOK LIKE AT NIGHT? YEAH, SO IT'S ACTUALLY BECOME A LOT BUSIER.

WE, WE'VE PUT IN AN ELECTRONIC ACCOUNTING SYSTEM, UH, ON THE PARKING GARAGE NOW, AND IT'S CURRENTLY ONLY ON THE PARKING GARAGE.

BUT THE, THE PLAN IS TO PUT PARKING SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY THAT WILL DIGITALLY DISPLAY WHAT THE PARKING COUNT IS IN THE GARAGE, WHAT TO HELP, TO HELP BRING PEOPLE INTO THE GARAGE AND TO, TO UTILIZE THAT.

UH, BUT I CAN I, I DUNNO THAT NUMBER, BUT I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT PARKING COUNTS ARE.

BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT A FEE TRUCK HERE? NO.

THAT'S GONNA DEFEAT THE I GET YOU.

YOU'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO INCOME PRODUCTION.

THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M GONNA CLOSE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING AND ASK FOR A MOTION JUDGE LAST ACT ON.

FULL REVIEW FOR CIVIL PLANS HERE.

LET HIM DO IT.

APPROVE 1869 C SLASH 50, THE VO OFFICE RETAIL BUILDING WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE STATED WITHIN HERE WITH THE FOLLOWING, THE APPROVAL OF THE DETAILED LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WILL BE SUBMITTED FOR

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SECOND TO JOHN'S MOTION.

SECOND.

HERE IS A RUSH THERE, BUT NANCY BAK.

ALL THE FAVOR SAY AYE.

AND IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE ARE ADJOURNED.