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[ Call Meeting to Order]

[00:00:05]

I CALL A MEETING TO ORDER.

PLEASE STAND UP FOR THE PLEDGE.

I PLEDGE TO, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES, AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH THE JUSTICE.

FOUR.

PLEASE BE SITTING INVISIBLE FOR SURE.

IS THAT BEFORE I READ THIS, I WANT RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER AND US.

SHE IS ON ZOOM CURRENTLY.

SHE IS IN HAWAII.

HI, HOW ARE YOU? YOU HAVE GOOD WEATHER, GOOD TIME? YES, .

HI.

ALL RIGHT.

THE

[ EXECUTIVE SESSION Closed (Executive) Session of the Addison City Council pursuant to: Section 551.087, Texas Government Code, to discuss or deliberate regarding commercial or financial information that the City Council has received from a business prospect or business prospects that the City Council seeks to have locate, stay, or expand in or near the territory of the Town of Addison and with which the City Council is conducting economic development negotiations, and/or to deliberate the offer of a financial or other incentive to such business prospect or business prospects: Discussion of the status of the expiring leases of Jani-King International, Inc. d.b.a. Cavanaugh Flight Museum (4570, 4572 & 4574 Claire Chennault), Dallas Skies, Inc. (4576 Claire Chennault) and Raymond F. Sawtelle, Jr. & Sheila L. Sawtelle d.b.a. Monarch Aviation (4580 Claire Chennault). Proposed 7-acre Redevelopment Opportunity with Sky Harbour, LLC, d.b.a. Addison Hangars, LLC to be located within the vicinity of 4570, 4572, 4574, 4576 and 4580 Claire Chennault Drive at Addison Airport]

FIRST ITEM IS EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I'M CODE EXECUTIVE SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 1 0 8 7 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DISCUSS OR DELIBERATE REGARDING COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT OR BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE, STAY, OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE TERRITORY OF THE TOWN OF EDISON, AND WITH WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND OR TO DELIVERY THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO SUCH BUSINESS PROSPECT OR BUSINESS PROSPECTS.

SO THERE ARE TWO ITEMS IN THE EXACT SESSION.

ONE DISCUSSION OF THE STATUS OF THE EXPIRING LEASES OF GEN INTERNATIONAL INC.

DBA A KAAR LINE MUSEUM 4 5 7 0 4 5 72 AND 4 5 74.

CLAIRE, SHE, THAT'S THE ADDRESS.

AND ALSO DOLLAR SKY INC.

4 45 76, CLAIRE SHEAR AND RAYMOND F TEL JR.

AND SHILA SAW DBA A MONARCH AVIATION ADDRESS 45 80 CLAIRE.

SECOND ITEM WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS IS PROPOSED SEVEN ACRE REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY WITH THE SKY HARBOR, L L C D B A, EDISON HANGERS, A L C, TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THE INSANITY OF 45 70 45, 72, 45, 74, 45, 76.

AND THE 45 80 ISH CLAIRE DRIVE AT EDISON HILL AIRPORT RIGHT NOW IS 5:38 PM WE ARE ENTERING INTO SESSION MEETING 7:02 PM

[ Reconvene in to Regular Session: In accordance with Texas Government Code, Chapter 551, the City Council will reconvene into Regular Session to consider action, if any, on matters discussed in Executive Session.]

WE ARE EXITING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THERE IS NO ACTION.

ALL

[1. Receive and Consider Public Comment on the Town's Approach to Housing and Redevelopment Policy.]

RIGHT, WORK SESSION ITEM NUMBER ONE, RECEIVING A CONSIDERED PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE TOWN'S APPROACH TO A HOUSING REDEVELOPMENT POLICY.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGN ON THE COURT? YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE ARE 11 CITIZENS SOUNDLESS CARD.

SO, UH, I WILL ASK THE FIRST ONE TO SPEAK.

SO THE FIRST ONE ON THE LIST IS A BURKE BUR HARDER.

YES.

CAN YOU PLEASE BURKE, COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME? OH, DOWN HERE? YES SIR.

SO RECENTLY I DO SOME EXPLANATION, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME CITIZEN HAVE CONCERN ABOUT APARTMENTS, BUT IS INCONSISTENT BECAUSE ON THE EMAIL YOU SEND TO US IS NO MORE APARTMENTS, BUT ON THE DOOR HANG YOUR WORRIES IS NO MORE RENTALS.

SO I DO HAVE A LADY NAMED CHRISTINE WALLOCK AND, UH, CRITICIZE ME ABOUT, SINCE I TALK ABOUT NO MORE APARTMENTS, BUT I REFER THAT TO YOUR EMAIL IS NO MORE APARTMENTS.

SO, UH, IF YOU WANNA DO THIS, JUST PLEASE BE CONSISTENT.

YOU DON'T WANNA SAY NO MORE APARTMENTS ON THE OTHER THINGS.

NO MORE RENTALS.

SO I JUST REFER TO YOUR EMAIL.

NO MORE APARTMENT.

YEAH.

BURR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE WE DON'T HAVE A MIC OR DO WE? NO, YOU'RE GOOD TO GO IN THE CEILING.

IT IS IN THE CEILING.

IT IS ALL HIGH TECH.

NOW WE'RE GET HIGH TECH.

YES.

YES, SIR.

ALWAYS.

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YOU KNOW, I'M JAMES.

I WOULD EXPECT EVERYBODY HAVE THREE MINUTES IF WE GO ALONG LONGER.

SHE'S ALREADY WARN ME.

.

THE OTHER THING IS IT WON'T BE THAT LONG.

I WOULD EXPECT YOU DON'T REPEAT THE SAME COMMENT.

YEAH.

IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE SOME RESPECT TO EVERYBODY'S TIME.

GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

YOU'RE ON KID.

I'M ON GO.

YEAH.

I'M JAMES HOLTER.

I, UH, I LIVE AT 38 24 WATERFORD DRIVE.

I'VE BEEN THERE ALMOST 30 YEARS, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT.

THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT I'M GONNA ZERO IN OFF, AND THAT IS, I WONDER HOW MANY OF YOU FIND PEOPLE HAVE GONE DOWN SOUTH MARSH AT SEVEN 30 IN THE MORNING? THE TRAFFIC IS JUST ATROCIOUS.

YOU GET TO SPRING VALLEY OR PALM BEACH AND TRAFFICS AREN'T STACKING UP.

AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I'VE TALKED TO SAID, WELL, THE PROBLEM IS PEOPLE ARE VEING OVER FROM MIDWAY TO MARSH AND THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THE PROBLEM.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS VITRUVIAN.

MM-HMM .

THERE ARE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE BE GOING UP IN THE VITRUVIAN.

I DON'T KNOW, UH, HOW MANY MORE BUILDINGS ARE GONNA BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE VITRUVIAN AREA, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S, WE GOT, WE GOTTA BE, DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW FAR ALONG VITRUVIAN PROJECT IS? ARE WE HALFWAY THROUGH? ARE WE 30% THROUGH? I DON'T KNOW, BUT THE TRAFFIC ON MAR IS JUST TERRIBLE.

THEY'RE JUST GONNA GET WORSE.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT ALL THESE FINE FOLKS HERE ARE TONIGHT ARE AGAINST THESE APARTMENTS AND IT, CAN YOU IMAGINE THE OFFICE IN THE PARK, PEOPLE COMING FROM SOUTH ON MIDWAY AT FOUR 30 IN THE AFTERNOON TRYING TO GET INTO THOSE TOWNHOUSES WHERE OFFICE IN THE PARK IS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GONNA TURN LEFT.

I I THINK THERE'RE GONNA BE SOME NEW TRAFFIC.

I'M PRETTY SURE I HEARD THAT, BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE, I MEAN, THE TRAFFIC IS JUST GONNA BE TERRIBLE.

IT'S GETTING WORSE AND WORSE EVERY DAY AND I JUST AM TIRED OF IT.

I'M SO OLD AND IT'S NOT GONNA BOTHER ME, BUT IT'S GONNA BOTHER A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE A WHOLE LOT YOUNGER THAN I AM.

AND IF, IF PEOPLE ARE GOING SOUTH ON MIDWAY ON SOUTH ON MARSH, IT'S SEVEN 30 IN THE MORNING, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU YOU'RE GONNA RUN INTO A TRAFFIC JAM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

BURKE, YOU ARE STILL YOUNG.

YES.

.

ALRIGHT, THE NEXT PERSON IS PAPA.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE READY HERE.

EVENING, ROBERT JACOBY 40 16 RE PLAIN APARTMENT TOWN USA ADDISON.

UM, THANKS AND GOOD TO SEE YOU EILEEN.

MR. RESNICK ON THE LINE THERE, TWO THINGS.

WE ALL KNOW.

WE'VE HAD APARTMENTS.

ADDISON'S MOVING TOWARDS 86, 80 5% APARTMENT VERSUS HOMEOWNER USE.

THAT'S PRETTY EXTENSIVE.

THE QUESTION IS, APARTMENTS ARE USUALLY GREAT WHEN THEY FIRST BUILD, WAIT 10, 20, 30 YEARS AND THERE'S A CONTINUAL DECLINE.

I DON'T LIKE HAVING EXTENSIVE APARTMENTS, BUT I'M ALSO, I REALLY DON'T LIKE WHEN THERE'S NO CODE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE IN TAR OVERTIME THE APARTMENTS WILL END UP TURNING LIKE CRAP.

AND THAT'S WHEN I LEAVE ADDISON.

ADDISON NOT THE SAME TOWN IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO.

IT'S NOT THE SAME TOWN IT WAS 10 YEARS AGO.

NO.

AND UM, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IF YOU ALL ARE SO HOT ON APARTMENTS VERSUS CONDOS THAT COULD BE OWNED BY OWNER-OCCUPIED INDIVIDUALS, WHERE ARE YOU GONNA BE IN 10, 20 YEARS? WHERE ARE YOU GONNA BE AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT? BECAUSE WE CAN BE REALLY A**L AND BE TOUGH OR WE CAN LET OUR APARTMENTS TURN TO CRAP AND THEN THE TOWN TURNS TO CRAP.

OKAY.

AND I ASK YOU, WHERE ARE YOU GONNA BE IN 10 OR 20 YEARS? RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MIKE O'NEILL.

[00:10:07]

HI.

THANK YOU.

UH, MICHAEL O'NEIL, 50 21 MORRIS AVENUE, UH, WHICH IS IN THE CIRCLE AS PART OF THE DISTRICT, A TOWN HO UH, TOWN HOMES AND IS ORDERED BY ROUGHLY CH QUORUM SPECTRUM, MORRIS.

AND I THINK OUR OUTER EDGE IS, UM, UH, CALLAWAY, BUT IT'S 183, UM, ALL TOWN END.

SO I ACTUALLY GOT THIS PROCESS BACKWARDS.

THIS IS FIRST WORKSHOP I'VE BEEN TO.

I THOUGHT WE'D LISTENED TO THE TOWN PRESENTATION.

I KNOW THERE'S A PDF THAT WAS SENT OUT.

I WAS GONNA COMMENT, UM, ON THAT.

BUT, UM, I'LL JUST PIVOT A LITTLE BIT AND TELL YOU WHY I'M HERE AND WHY I ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, UH, GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE.

AND IT'S REALLY KINDA A PERSONAL STORY.

UM, WE LIVED IN APARTMENTS IN CIRCLE.

WE HAD DOWNSIZED AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR, UH, CONDOMINIUMS TO, TO LIVE IN THE CIRCLE.

AND YOU'VE GOT AURA, YOU KNOW, FOUR CONDOMINIUMS FOR SINGLE FLOOR, UH, CONDOMINIUMS. AND WE HAD A TORIN, WE HAD MERIDIAN.

AND, UM, THERE JUST LITERAL WASN'T THE STOCK THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.

AND, UH, SO WE ENDED UP BUYING A, UH, THREE STORY, UH, TOWNHOUSE, WHICH HAS SOME OF THIS CHALLENGES ON SOME DAYS.

UM, THE OTHER THING THAT STRUCK ME, UM, WHEN I STARTED READING UP ON THIS, THERE WASN'T AN ADDISON CIRCLE STUDY DONE IN 2018, AND THERE'S COMMENT AFTER COMMENT AFTER COMMENT IN THAT ABOUT HOW THE RESIDENTS REALLY WANTED TO HAVE, UM, HOME OWNERSHIP IN THE CIRCLE.

AND FAST FORWARD, YOU KNOW, THREE YEARS AND, AND HERE WE ARE AND WE'VE GOT A, UH, GIGANTIC PROJECT THAT'S REALLY GONNA COME UP, UH, FOR VOTE NEXT MONTH ON A 13 STORY APARTMENT BUILDING, A SEVEN STORY APARTMENT BUILDING.

AND SO SOMEWHERE THERE'S A, A, A REAL DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT THE CITIZENS I FEEL HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR AND WHAT WE'RE BEING, UH, PRESENTED WITH.

AND SO, UM, I'M ENCOURAGED BY WHAT THE, THE TOWN IS GONNA BE PRESENTING AFTER THIS FOR SOME OF THE, THE STEPS FORWARD.

MY ONLY, UH, CAVEAT WOULD BE THAT, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT, UH, WITH THE TOWN'S PRESENTATION, UM, IT'S GOING TO BE BUSINESS AS USUAL FOR 12 TO 18 MONTHS ANYWAY ON THESE APARTMENT DEVELOPMENTS.

SO I'LL MAKE A PRE COMMENT ON THAT.

AND I WOULD SAY ANYTHING THAT GETS PROPOSED SHOULD, UH, COME IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOME TYPE OF A, UH, A DELAY OR A, I HATE TO USE THE WORD DELAY CUZ THAT'S NEGATIVE, BUT JUST A, A FURTHER THOUGHT ON THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY GOING TO BE UP FOR BOAT IN THE NEXT, UH, REALLY MONTH TO SIX MONTHS.

CAUSE YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME WE GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS, UH, THINGS ARE GONNA BE BUILT.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WILL BE, UH, GONE BY THEN.

AND, UM, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS TO, UH, JUST TAKE A STEP BACK, LET THIS PROCESS, UH, RUN ITS COURSE AND, UM, UH, SEE WHERE WE AT.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROPOSALS WAS A SPECIAL, UH, COMMITTEE TO MAKE A REPORT BY SUMMER TO THE COUNCIL.

SO MAYBE TAKE A DELAY UNTIL THEN, SEE HOW THAT COMES OUT.

BUT I THINK IT'D BE VERY DISINGENUOUS FOR THE CITY TO MOVE THROUGH WITH ANY OF THE EXISTING PROJECTS, UM, ON BOARD.

MIKE.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S WHY ROYCE STOCKER.

I'M THE ROYCE STOCKER.

UM, I LIVE AT 14 8 53 OAKS NORTH PLACE IN OAKS NORTH, WHICH IS ON THE EAST SIDE NOW NORFORD.

UM, I'VE LIVED IN MY HOUSE ON THAT, THAT, UH, ADDRESS FOR 36 YEARS.

SO I'VE SEEN A LOT OF WHAT'S CHANGED IN ADDISON OVER THAT TIME.

WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, THERE WERE PROBABLY 40%, UH, APARTMENTS IN, IN THE TOWN, AND ALMOST ALL OF THOSE WERE TWO STORY APARTMENTS.

NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE 13 AND SEVEN STORY HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS, AND THAT'S GONNA ADD TO THE TRAFFIC, UH, PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT HERE.

AND IT'S ALSO GONNA ADD TO THE CRIME PROBLEMS. I THINK MAROON'S GOT SOME PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW THAT WE KNOW ABOUT, AND IT'S REPORTED IN THE, THE WEEKLY NEWSLETTER THAT ADDISON PUTS OUT IN, UH, WHAT'S IT CALLED, THE COMMUNITY CRIME MAP.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH YOU CAN SELECT WHAT DAYS YOU WANT OR HOW MUCH, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT OVER 30 DAYS, YOU SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CRIME GOING ON IN ADDISON.

AND I THINK THAT IF WE, UH, IF IF THIS GOES ABOVE 84%, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE A REAL PROBLEMS AT THIS TOWN.

AND I, I'VE, I'VE SEEN IT CHANGE QUITE A BIT AND I DON'T WANNA SEE IT.

WE'VE GOT AN ELECTION COMING UP IN MAY AND UH, I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE A HOT ISSUE FOR YOU GUYS.

SO I THINK ABOUT THAT AND IF THERE'S NOT SOMETHING DONE WITH IT, I'M OUT.

ADDISON.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VALERIE COLLINS.

[00:15:03]

HI, VALERIE COLLINS, 14 6 68 WAYSIDE PORT.

LET ME BE VERY CLEAR.

CITIZENS OF ADDISON, TEXAS IS AGAINST MORE APARTMENTS.

WE WANT HOME OWNERSHIP.

WE WANT MORE OF A BALANCE.

RENTALS ARE APARTMENTS.

ADDISON NEEDS A NEW VISION FOR THE FUTURE OF ADDISON.

ADDISON NEEDS A MUCH BETTER PLAN FOR THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF EDISON.

ADDISON NEEDS TO TAKE THE TIME TO BUILD A NEW AND BETTER PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OF ADDISON.

IF ADDISON CONTINUES TO ALLOW THE APARTMENT DEVELOPERS TO PLAN OUR FUTURE, ADDISON WILL NOT BE THE JEWEL THAT IT SHOULD AND CAN BE.

335 ADDISON RESIDENTS HAVE SENT A MESSAGE TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE P AND Z TELLING YOU THAT THEY DO NOT WANT ANYMORE APARTMENTS.

YOU NEED TO START LISTENING AND REPRESENTING YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S A HARD FOLLOW .

SO VAL TOLD ME THAT I COULD HAVE HER TIME, SO THERE YOU GO.

I DON'T THINK SO.

OH, DAVE COLLINS 4 6 68 WAYSIDE COURT.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA READ MY REMARKS.

UM, SO BEAR WITH ME.

RESIDENTS CONCERNS ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF EXISTING POTENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING IN ADDISON HAS BEEN A LONG STANDING ISSUE.

IT WAS SHOWN BY THE 2017 RESOLUTION PASSED BY THE COUNCIL THAT STATED IN PART WHERE FEASIBLE AND APPROPRIATE NEW HOUSING SHOULD INCREASE THE PROPORTION OF FEE.

SIMPLE OWNERSHIP AND ABSENCE HOUSING MIX, APARTMENT ONLY REZONING IS UNLIKELY TO BE APPROVED.

AS CURRENTLY THE RATIO OF RENTAL TO OWNERSHIP PROPERTIES IS HIGHER THAN DESIRE.

HOWEVER, IN THE PAST NINE MONTHS, REZONING FOR OVER 1300 RENTAL UNITS HAS BEEN APPROVED IN RESPONSE.

AS VAL MENTIONED, THE RESIDENTS HAVE SUBMITTED APPROXIMATELY 340 PETITIONS ASKING THE COUNCIL TO STOP APPROVING NEW MULTI-FAMILY UNITS.

CLEARLY THIS IS A, REMAINS A CRITICAL ISSUE FOR THE RESIDENCE.

AT THE OCTOBER TOWN HALL, THE MAYOR STATED THERE'LL BE A SEPARATE MEETING TO DISCUSS RESIDENCE'S CONCERNS REGARDING RENTAL HOUSING.

I FOLLOWED UP WITH A MAYOR AND I TALKED TO SOME OF THE COUNSEL TO EXPRESS MY VIEW THAT THIS, FOR THIS MEETING TO BE PRODUCTIVE, IT WOULD REQUIRE AN OPEN FORMAT.

BASED ON A RECENT EMAIL EXCHANGE WITH THE MAYOR, HE CONFIRMED THAT THE MEETING WILL BE SCHEDULED IN JANUARY AND THAT THIS FORMAT IS BEING ADDRESSED.

WE WANNA REITERATE THAT TO BE EFFECTIVE, THE MEETING WILL REQUIRE ROBUST AND OPEN DIALOGUE.

WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT? BECAUSE FRANKLY, THERE'S A CREDIBILITY ISSUE.

MANY PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO BELIEVE THAT DEVELOPERS CONTROL THE PROCESS AND THAT THERE'S A RUBBER STAMP APPROACH TO APPROVING NEW PROJECTS.

HOWEVER, STAFF HAS TOLD ME THAT MANY REQUESTS FOR RENTAL PROJECTS ARE REJECTED OUT OF HAND.

ADDITIONALLY, I KNOW THAT IN MANY CASES, APPROVED PROJECTS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER DUE TO THE HARD WORK OF STAFF P AND Z AND COUNCIL.

THIS NEEDS TO BE BETTER COMMUNICATED TO THE RESIDENTS.

THE RESIDENTS OF ADDISON ARE REASONABLE PEOPLE.

WE CAN WORK TOGETHER FOR THE BEST OUTCOME ON THIS CRITICAL ISSUE.

I ALSO WANT TO COMMENT ON THE SECOND AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS THE OPTIONS FOR ADVANCING COMMUNITY DIALOGUE ON HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT.

BY ALL MEANS, UPDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WRITTEN IN 2013.

THE WORLD MOVES QUICKLY, A LOT HAS CHANGED.

WE AS RESIDENTS, WE CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE FUTURE OF ADDISON.

A WELL-CRAFTED UPDATE TO THIS PLAN WILL DO MUCH TO ENSURE THIS.

HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL NOT TO CREATE A SEPARATE COMMITTEE TO NARROWLY ADDRESS THE HOUSING ISSUE.

YOU HAVE HEARD FROM YOUR RESIDENTS ON THIS ISSUE MULTIPLE TIMES AND IN THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE WAY, A SEPARATE COMMITTEE ON THIS IS JUST NOT NEEDED.

FINALLY, WHILE YOU SORT OUT NEXT STEPS, BECAUSE IN THE INTERIM REZONING REQUEST WILL CONTINUE, WILL CONTINUE TO COME BEFORE YOU.

I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL ADOPT A ONE YEAR MORATORIUM ON THE NEW REZONING OF ANY PARCELS THAT WOULD ALLOW APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT.

I LOOK FORWARD TO A PRODUCTIVE JANUARY MEETING.

THANK YOU COOPER BLACKFORD.

I'LL READ MY, UH, MY DOCUMENT AS WELL.

MY

[00:20:01]

NAME'S BOB BLACKFORD.

I LIVE AT 5 0 15 MERIDIAN LANE, UNIT 1101 IN THE MERIDIAN CONDOMINIUM COMPLEX.

AND I'M ALSO A BOARD MEMBER OF OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

I JOINED THE CITIZENS OF ADDISON TO SUPPORT THE CONCERNS OF OVER 300 RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS TO, UH, SUPPORT THEIR CONCERN ABOUT THE HIGH LEVEL OF HIGH DENSITY, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEX SCHEDULED FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

IN PRELIMINARY SURVEYS CONDUCTED BY THIRD PARTY ORGANIZATIONS FOR THE CITY OF ADDISON, AND THIS HAS BEEN MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, DATA SHOWED THAT ADDISON RESIDENTS WERE OPPOSED TO MORE HIGH DENSITY APARTMENT PROJECTS.

YET TODAY WE FIND JUST THE OPPOSITE TO BE TRUE.

RECENT ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE CITY HAVE CONFIRMED PLANS FOR 700 PLUS HIGH DENSITY APARTMENT COMPLEX AT THE SILVER LINE LOCATION.

IN ADDITION, WE RECENTLY LEARNED OF THE CITY'S APPROVAL OF 270 HIGH DENSITY APARTMENT COMPLEX AT THE CORNER OF ADDISON ROAD AND AIRPORT PARKWAY.

AND, UH, CONSTRUCTION IS NOW UNDERWAY FOR ANOTHER HIGH DENSITY COMPLEX ON MIDWAY ROAD WITH 389 UNITS.

THE KEY WORD HERE IS APARTMENTS, NOT TOWNHOUSES THAT ARE OWNED BY RESIDENTS, NOT CONDOMINIUMS AND NOT ZERO LINE OR OTHER ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF FEE.

SIMPLE PROPERTY, IT'S APARTMENTS.

AS A PROPERTY OWNER IN THE PRESTONWOOD AND ADDISON COMMUNITIES, I KNOW THAT PROPERTY OWNERS CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE PERMANENT RESIDENTS.

PROPERTY OWNERS VOLUNTEER THEIR SUPPORT TO LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, PROPERTY OWNERS VOTE.

WHILE CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR MAY WISH TO CHARACTERIZE OUR EFFORT AS ONE DIMENSIONAL, THAT'S NOT REALLY THE CASE.

CITIZENS OF ADDISON ARE FOCUSING OUR ATTENTION ON OUR, ON WHAT OUR COMMUNITY WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE.

THESE LARGE RESIDENTIAL, THESE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS.

A APARTMENT COMPLEXES WHEN COMPLETED WILL FIND ADDISON TO BE A COMMUNITY, WHICH AS PREVIOUSLY MEN MENTIONED, WILL HAVE OVER 4% OF THE PROPERTY AS RENTALS, UH, UNITS.

THAT'S OUT OF BALANCE AND IT'S NOT HEALTHY FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I WON'T TOUCH FURTHER ON THE FACT THAT WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, BUT WE DO HAVE A GROWING PROPERTY CRIME PROBLEM IN THE COMMUNITY AND I KNOW THAT FIRSTHAND FROM WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED AT THE MERIDIAN COMPLEX.

FINALLY, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT CITIZENS TO NEVADA SEEKS A CITY COMMITTED, COMMITTED TO BALANCED DEVELOPMENT OF OUR TOWN.

HOME OWNERSHIP CONTRIBUTES TO A STABLE AND DESIRABLE COMMUNITY.

AND WORKING TOGETHER, I THINK WE CAN CREATE A NEW VISION FOR OUR TOWN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT ONE IS A KATHY MOORE.

KATHY, ME, I WASN'T PLANNING OUT SPEAKING.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S OKAY.

SO, UM, MARVIN.

MARVIN, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR ALLOWING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS OUR OPINION AND PROVIDE YOU WITH OUR INPUT, OUR INPUT THAT COMES NOT ONLY FROM THE BRAIN, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY.

NAME, NAME, ADDRESS.

I DID FORGET THAT, RIGHT? MARVIN PEREZ.

AND 14 8 99 TOWN, BLAKE, LEG CIRCLE IN ADDISON.

SO I STARTED TO SAY TO, UH, THANK YOU AND APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU'RE TAKING TO LISTEN TO OUR COMMENTS.

MAINLY THOSE THAT YOU KNOW, OUR COMMENTS, AS I STARTED TO SAY, ALSO NOT ONLY COME FROM OUR BRAIN, RIGHT, BUT ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR MY HEALTH.

WE LIVE IN, AT, WE WORK, IF NOT ALL OF US, A GOOD NUMBER OF US IN ADDISON, WE LOVE AT, AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT AND MAINTAIN IT THE WAY THAT IT IS PRESENTLY AT.

WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE REQUIREMENTS.

THE CITY OF ADDISON USES THE SLOGAN OF THE ADDISON WAY OF DOING BUSINESS.

IF YOU READ THAT SLOGAN, IT IS USED IN OUR MARKETING.

[00:25:01]

IT HAS A COUPLE OF VERY IMPORTANT ELEMENTS IN IT.

ONE, THAT THE TOWNSHIP MAINTAIN AND FOSTER A, A LONG HELD CULTURE OF PURSUING EXCELLENCE.

TWO, IT DEFINES THE VALUES OF OUR TALENT AND IT DEFINES ALSO THE WAY IT LOOKS AT THE LAND, OUR RESOURCES AND THE NEIGHBORS OF IT.

AND IT'S INTERESTING, THEY USED THE WORD NEIGHBORS.

NUMBER THREE, IT IS MINDFUL OF THE NEED OF EVERY PARCEL TO COMPLIMENT, NOT DETRIMENT.

ITS NEIGHBORS.

WE, THE NEIGHBORS OF ADDISON FEEL THAT OUR APARTMENTS DETRIMENT OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND WE HAVE TOLD THIS TO THIS COUNCIL AND TO OUR MAYOR NUMEROUS TIMES.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT GOES INTO THIN AIR.

NOBODY LISTENS.

NOT ONLY THE CURRENT NEIGHBORS, BUT THE PAST NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE LIVED HERE.

AND SOME OF THEM HAVE MOVED BECAUSE OF THE WAY THINGS ARE TURNING IN ADDISON.

I WAS, UH, RECENTLY INVOLVED IN SAM'S CLUB COMMITTEE MEMBER.

I WAS A MEMBER OF THAT COMMITTEE.

AND IN THAT DOCUMENT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SUMMARY OF THE PAGE OF THE DOCUMENT, IT'S ITEM NUMBER THREE, STATES IMPLE IMPLEMENTATION SHOULD ESTABLISH A MEDIUM DENSITY DENSITY HORIZONTAL MIX USE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THAT DIFFER, DIFFERENTIATES FROM LARGE SCALE URBAN CENTERS, SUCH AS ADDISON CIRCLE OR THE VITRUVIAN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MOLLY.

SO NEXT ONE THERE.

THAT'S ME.

UM, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY.

I LOVE EDISON.

I AM LUCKY TO FIND THIS TOOL OF URBAN ENVIRONMENT AND I WANT TO SAVE IT.

UH, WANT TO MAINTAIN ITS VALUE, MAINTAIN ITS BEAUTY.

I WAS, UH, LUCKY TO FIND THE VITU PROJECT WHEN IT WAS STARTED.

NOT MANY PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME BEAUTIFUL VITRUVIAN NIGHTS AND LIGHTS.

I USED TO WALK THERE.

NOW I DON'T DARE BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW WHAT? CROWDS, IT'S LIKE A MOP, UH, HANDLING THEIR DOGS NOT PICKING UP, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

SO IT'S NOT A NICE PLACE TO BE ANYMORE.

AND I LIKE MY, YOU KNOW, LAY LOCK LAKE.

IT'S ALSO A CHANNEL OF DALLAS, NEVER ELSE.

I HAVE SEEN SUCH A BEAUTY.

IT'S A TINY JEWEL.

AND I IMAGINE WHAT IT TURN INTO AFTER WE, UH, ERECT THIS MIDWAY PROJECT, THESE, UH, HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF NEW RESIDENTS, THEY DON'T CARE FOR THE LAND CAUSE THEY ARE NOT HOMELESS.

CAN YOU IMAGINE? IT'LL YOU RUIN OUR ENVIRONMENT.

PLEASE SAVE IT.

PLEASE MAINTAIN ITS BEAUTY.

UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

ALRIGHT, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR RECORD? UH, OLGA.

13 JULIE DRIVE.

IT'S TOWN HOMES OF THANK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANYMORE PEOPLE WANNA COMMENT? ANYTHING? NO, SIR.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

ANYBODY ELSE? SOUND CAR? NO.

ALRIGHT.

SO

[ Announcements and Acknowledgments Regarding Town and Council Events and Activities International Festival and Events Association Award presented to the Special Events Department Police Department Certificates of Merit Discussion of Meetings / Events]

BEFORE I GO TO THE SECOND ITEM, UH, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, UH, OUR POLICE AND ALSO OUR SPECIAL EVENTS, STEPH.

SO THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS

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INTERNATIONAL FESTIVAL AND EVENTS ASSOCIATION AWARD PRESENTED TO THE SPECIAL EVENTS OF NIA MONICA, SARAH.

UM, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, NIA SALAR, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL EVENTS.

I'M PLEASED TO HAVE WITH ME TONIGHT.

SARAH BINIONS, SPECIAL EVENTS COORDINATOR, MONICA MARSH, SPECIAL EVENTS COORDINATOR.

AND OUR NEWEST TEAM MEMBER STEPHANIE SEGURA, DEPARTMENT ASSISTANT.

UM, THE SPECIAL EVENTS TEAM HAS BEEN HARD AT WORK THE LAST TWO YEARS, NAVIGATING THROUGH A PANDEMIC, WHILE MAINTAINING THE HIGHEST DEGREE OF EXCELLENCE AND EVENTS.

UM, PROMOTIONALLY AND OPERATIONALLY WE'RE PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE OUR WINNINGS FROM THE INTERNATIONAL FESTIVAL AND EVENTS ASSOCIATIONS POSS AND WILKERSON PINNACLE AWARDS.

THESE AWARDS RECOGNIZE OUTSTANDING ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND TOP QUALITY, CREATIVE AND PROMOTIONAL AND OPERATIONAL PROGRAMS AND MATERIALS PRODUCED BY FESTIVALS AND EVENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

THE TEAM WAS AWARDED SIX BRONZE, FIVE SILVER, AND FOR GOLD IN VARIOUS CATEGORIES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO.

BEST TV PROMOTION, BEST ONSITE DECOR, AND BEST GIVEAWAY ITEM FOR TASTE.

ADDISON AND ADDISON OCTOBERFEST 2019 AND 2021.

THE TEAM WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL AND THE TOWN OF ADDISON FOR BELIEVING IN THESE EVENTS, ALLOWING THIS TEAM'S CREATIVITY TO FLOURISH, UM, AND LEADING TO AWARDING MOMENTS AND RECOGNITIONS LIKE THIS.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OUR AWARDS HERE.

THESE ARE OUR THANK YOU, SMILE.

CONGRATULATIONS.

YES, GREAT JOB.

SO THE NEXT PRESENTATION IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CERTIFICATE OF MERIT CHIEF.

THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, PAUL SPENCER, CHIEF OF POLICE.

I WANNA THANK THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR FOR ALLOWING US TO INTERJECT OURSELVES INTO THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

UM, I FIND IT, UH, INCREDIBLY REWARDING AND ALSO I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC AND OUR COUNCIL TO SEE, AND FOR US TO HIGHLIGHT AND RECOGNIZE THE GOOD WORK THAT OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DO EVERY DAY.

UH, THESE ARE CERTAIN EXAMPLES OF, OF SOME OUTSTANDING WORK, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT Y'ALL KNOW IT AS WELL.

SO, FIRST, LIKE TO HAVE OFFICER MARASKI UP, PLEASE.

I'M GONNA READ A SHORT DESCRIPTION AND THEN WE'LL PRESENT THE CERTIFICATE.

ON OCTOBER 17TH, 2022, AROUND EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING, UH, ADDISON FIRE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S RESPOND FOR MEDICAL EMERGENCY AT 41, EXCUSE ME, 44 51 BELTLINE ROAD AT HOMEWOOD SUITES.

OFFICER MARAZ ARRIVED ON SCENE, FOUND A PATIENT IN THE SHOWER, UNRESPONSIVE, UH, WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF OTHER OFFICERS, IMMEDIATELY REMOVED THAT PATIENT FROM THE SHOWER AND PLACED THEM ON THE GROUND.

OFFICER MARAZ ASSESSED THE VITAL SIGNS TO THE PATIENT, DETERMINED CPR WAS APPROPRIATE AND BEGAN.

C P RISON PARAMEDICS ARRIVED A SHORT TIME LATER, TOOK OVER CARE FOR THE PATIENT.

THE PATIENT WAS ULTIMATELY TRANSPORTED.

THE HOSPITAL SURVIVED THE INCIDENT, AND NOT ONLY SURVIVED, BUT WALKED OUTTA THE HOSPITAL ON THE ROUND THAT, THAT EVENING.

UH, THIS ACT, THIS COMMENDATION AND THE AWARD, UH, INITIALLY CAME FROM, UH, CHIEF DAVID JONES, OUR FIRE CHIEF, UH, TO ME.

UM, AND I WANNA QUOTE HIM IN SAYING THAT, UH, OFFICER RA'S CALM AND EFFICIENT ACTIONS CONTRIBUTED GREATLY TO THE SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME OF THIS EMERGENCY ON BEHALF OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THEY WERE VERY PROUD AND GRATEFUL FOR HIS TRAINING AND WILLING TO ACT.

IN FACT, DAVID AWARDED, UH, OFFICER MARAZ THEIR, UH, PHOENIX AWARD, I GUESS ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO.

BUT FOR HIS ACTIONS, I CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ALSO WANTING TO AWARD OFFICER.

THANK CHIEF OFFICER, DON'T GO, STAY THERE.

SO WE HAVE GOOD PHOTO AFTER THE PRESENT.

UH, OUR SECOND PRESENTATION NIGHT IS FOR CERTIFICATE MAYOR, ALSO TO OFFICER SIDWELL WAL MCDUFFY.

ON SEPTEMBER 28TH, 2022, AROUND 10 O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING, THESE OFFICERS RESPONDED TO A CALL OF A PERSON SHOT AT 15 200 ADDISON ROAD AT MAIN STATE SUITES OFFICERS MCDUFFY SIDWELL, AND WERE FIRST ARRIVE ON SCENE, UH, KNOCKED ON THE DOOR AND THE VICTIM BASICALLY TOLD THEM

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THROUGH THE DOOR THAT HE WAS SHOT AND COULDN'T ACTUALLY GET UP TO OPEN THE DOOR.

THESE OFFICERS FORCED THEIR WAY IN, AND WHEN THEY ENTERED THE ROOM, THEY OBSERVED THE VICTIM LYING ON THE GROUND WITH GUNSHOT WOUNDS TO HIS HANDS AND LEGS.

THEY IMMEDIATELY GRABBED THEIR MEDICAL KITS, TOURNIQUETS, AND ATTEMPTED TO STOP THE BLEEDING OF THE VICTIM'S INJURIES.

OFFICER MCDUFFY, UH, PLACED A TOURNIQUET ON THE VICTIM'S UPPER ARM AND THEN PLACED A BANDAGE ON HIS HAND.

OFFICER SIDWELL PLACED A TOURNIQUET ON THE VICTIM'S UPPER THIGH AND THEN PLACED CAUSE IN HIS GUNSHOT WOUND ON IN THAT, ON THAT SAME SAME APPENDAGE, OFFICER ARM WAS GIVING BOTH MCDUFFIE AND CIVIL SUPPLIES FROM THEIR MEDICAL GIFTS TO, TO ASSIST WITH ALL THREE OFFICERS WORKING TOGETHER.

THEY WERE QUICKLY ABLE TO PLACE TOURNIQUETS CAUSES AND BANDAGES ON THE VICTIM'S WOUNDS UNTIL PARAMEDICS ARRIVED ON SCENE.

WITHOUT ALL THREE OF THESE OFFICERS WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO QUICKLY PROVIDE MEDICAL ATTENTION.

UH, SO DESPERATELY NEEDED BY THE VICTIM.

YES, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTED THE VICTIM TO THE HOSPITAL.

THEY SURVIVED THEIR INJURIES AS WELL.

UH, THIS NOMINATION CAME FROM ADDISON FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC, GARRETT GIL CREASE.

UH, HE QUOTED THESE ACTIONS OF THESE OFFICERS, UH, HELP THE EM MS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, GAVE THE PATIENT THE BEST CHANCE FOR SURVIVAL OF HIS INJURIES.

THERE WERE ACTIONS ON THIS CALL, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S WARNING OFFICER SIDWELL MCDUFFY.

SORRY, WE GET THE WHOLE GROUP UP HERE.

LEAVE COUNCIL MEMBER RESNICK.

YOU MAY BE IN THE BACK.

.

I WOULD'VE BEEN HAPPY TO BE IN THAT PICTURE, YOU KNOW, SECURITY.

ALRIGHT, UH, BEFORE WE CONTINUE THE SECOND ITEM, I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO MAKE SOME ANNOUNCEMENT.

YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

YES, SIR.

YOU'LL FINISH YOUR JOB.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO I WANNA APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SO OUR NEW, UH, UH, CITY MANAGER GOING TO BE ON BOARD ON JANUARY 3RD.

SO JUST FOR YOU TODAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY CONFLICT, TONIGHT'S MEETING WILL BE THE ONLY REGULATED SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN DECEMBER.

THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE PLACED ON JANUARY 10TH, 2023.

ALSO 10 OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON FRIDAY, DECEMBER 23RD, AND MONDAY DECEMBER 26TH FOR CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY.

AND ON MONDAY, JANUARY 2ND FOR NEW YEAR'S DAY.

IF YOU NEED A SYSTEM WHEN UH, OFFICES ARE CLOSED, PLEASE CALL NON-EMERGENCY NUMBERS AT (972) 450-7156.

THERE WILL BE NO, UM, CHANGES, UH, TO THE TRASH AND RECYCLING COLLECTION OVER THE HOUSE.

AND MAYOR, AS YOU SAID, UH, TONIGHT IS THE LAST MINUTE, AND I'M ATTENDING, UH, COUNCIL MEETING AS A INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

UH, I WANNA TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO THANK YOU ALL, EACH INDIVIDUALLY.

UH, YOU WERE GREAT.

UH, REALLY, UM, HAD A LOT OF PATIENCE AND VERY KIND AND GIVE A LOVE NESS.

AND, UH, TOGETHER WE ACCOMPLISHED.

FEW ITEMS THAT I'M THE MOST, UM, PROUD OF IS THE KOHLER, UH, ITEM THAT, UH, I BROUGHT FORWARD THE FIRST MEETING, UH, AUGUST 2ND.

I WAS PRETTY NERVOUS ABOUT IT, BUT YOU ARE KIND AND YOU ARE APPROVED THAT, UM, IT'S BEEN QUITE EXPERIENCED.

I'M GONNA CHERISH THIS TIME FOR LAST, UH, SEVEN MONTH.

UH, CUZ I, UH, KIND OF SHADOWED THE CITY MANAGER, MR. WESLEY, FOR TWO MONTHS AND THEN STARTING IN AUGUST.

UH, IT'S BEEN A QUITE EXPERIENCE AND THANK YOU, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR TRUSTING IN ME.

AND, UH, LET ME TO, UH, CARRY THE COURT THE TORCH FOR, UH, FIVE, SIX MONTHS.

ALSO, I WANNA TAKE OPPORTUNITY TO THANKS THE STAFF THAT THEY'RE SITTING BEHIND ME.

UH, THEY'RE AMAZING, UH, TEAM.

UH, WITHOUT THEM I COULDN'T CONTINUE AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THEIR AMAZING, THEY KNOW, UH, THEIR BUSINESS AND THEY'RE SO DEDICATED TO, TO ADD AND THEIR PASSIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY DO.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

WE WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO HAM.

THANK YOU.

THANK THIS WAS, THIS CAN BE A HARD THING,

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.

I DID THAT BEFORE I CAME HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

NOW, YOU KNOW, WE ALL LIKE YOU A LOT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO THAT'S THE REASON I WILL ALWAYS CALL YOU GENIUS.

THANK.

ALL RIGHT,

[2. Present and Discuss Options for Advancing a Community Dialogue on Housing and Redevelopment.]

UH, LET'S GO TO THE SECOND ITEM.

PRESENT, DISCUSS OPTION FOR ADVANCING COMMUNITY DIALOGUE, UH, HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT, KEN.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO SET UP A PUBLIC MEETING.

SO TODAY WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THAT AFTER THE PRESENTATION.

AND, UH, SINCE AUDIO CITY MANAGER WON'T BE HERE ON THE J ON HIS JOB UNTIL JANUARY 3RD, SO IN OTHER WORDS, UH, I'D LIKE TO GIVE HIM SOME TIME TO GET USED TO WHAT HE IS DOING.

SO, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO SET UP IN A LATER PART OF JANUARY.

AND THEN GIVE HIM SOME TIME TO UNDERSTAND ADDISON.

YEAH, KEN, GO AHEAD.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, MARION CITY COUNCIL.

KEN SCHMIDT.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THE TOWN.

UH, SO TONIGHT WITH THIS WORK SESSION, UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE SOME TIME TO, UH, PRESENT SOME OPTIONS FOR ADVANCING, REALLY WHAT'S BEEN AN ONGOING DIALOGUE IN VERY FORMAL MEETINGS AND PROCESSES.

SO, THIS MEETING TONIGHT, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK, UH, FROM THE RESIDENTS AND ATTENDANCE WE'VE HEARD FROM THEM, UH, DURING RECENT PUBLIC HEARINGS RELATED TO ZONING.

UH, WE, UH, WENT THROUGH, UH, A SIMILAR FORMAL DIALOGUE PROCESS, UM, WITH THE, UH, MIDWAY SOUTH SPECIAL AREA STUDY.

UM, THAT'S, AND THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT GOVERNMENT PUBLIC PROCESSES, BUT THOSE IN THIS FORUM ISN'T ALWAYS THE, THE BEST WAY TO REALLY ADVANCE THE DIALOGUE AND, AND, AND TAKE SOMETHING THAT HAS FOLKS UPSET AND TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE.

SO WE'RE GONNA PRESENT SOME OPTIONS FOR, UH, DOING THAT MOVING FORWARD.

SO I THINK THE, THE, THE ONE TAKEAWAY WE WE CAN TAKE FROM ALL OF THESE MEETINGS IS IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF LOVE FOR ADDISON ON, UH, AT ANY SIDE OF THIS ISSUE.

AND I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT ADDISON IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, TO WORK, TO DINE, TO SOCIALIZE, UH, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT THAT, UH, ISSUE, IT'S A, IT COULD BE A BLESSING OR A CURSES.

UH, SO THE, THE, UH, OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS THAT OPINION IS NOT UNIQUE TO RESIDENTS OR COUNCIL MEMBERS OR STAFF.

UH, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY VIEWS ADDISON SIMILARLY, UH, REALLY THE, THE KEY DRIVERS FOR THAT ARE, UH, ONE OUR CENTRAL LOCATION.

UH, WE'RE, UH, VERY WELL LOCATED IN A VERY POPULAR REGION.

UM, AND WE HAVE GREAT ACCESS TO MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS, AND THAT'S ONLY GONNA IMPROVE WITH THE SILVER LINE.

UH, WE'RE OUR OWN MAJOR JOB CENTER, UM, BUT WE'RE SURROUNDED BY THE OTHER LARGEST JOB CENTERS IN OUR REGION.

THAT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A DRAW FOR US.

AND THEN WE HAVE ACCESS TO GREAT SOCIAL AMENITIES.

THAT'S NOT ONLY OUR PARKS AND OUR TRAILS, UM, AND OUR SPECIAL EVENTS, BUT IT'S ALSO THE, THE RETAIL ENVIRONMENT WE HAVE, WE'RE KNOWN FOR OUR RESTAURANTS AND WE CONTINUE TO SEE FANTASTIC INVESTMENT IN RESTAURANTS IN ADDISON.

IT'S GOING TO DRAW PEOPLE HERE.

AND THEN THE, THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS ADDISON, FOR DECADES HAS HAD REALLY STRONG LEADERSHIP, UH, AND ALSO VERY STRONG MANAGEMENT AND POLICY THAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE ATTRACTIVE BEYOND THE LOCATIONAL CONSIDERATIONS HERE.

SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN AND, UH, REALLY OVER THE YEARS, AND NOT JUST IN RECENT MONTHS, IS WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, LARGER PROJECTS, THERE'S TYPICALLY A DESIRE TO HAVE A HOUSING COMPONENT OF THAT.

AND MOST FREQUENTLY, UH, THERE HAS BEEN A MULTI-FAMILY RENTAL COMPONENT OF THAT.

SO THAT IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

THE, THE TITLE OF THIS PRESENTATION AND, UH, THIS AGENDA ITEM, I DIDN'T SAY, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO TALK JUST ABOUT RENTAL HOUSING.

THAT'S, THAT'S A COMPONENT OF THIS DISCUSSION.

BUT REALLY IT'S OUR ENTIRE INVENTORY OF LAND USES IT'S HOUSING, IT'S OUR REDEVELOPMENT POLICY.

IT'S A MUCH BIGGER POLICY ISSUE THAN JUST HOUSING POLICY AND JUST RENTAL HOUSING POLICY.

AND THE BIG DRIVER AND THE BIG INFLUENCE BEYOND ALL OF THAT IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, STARTING WITH OUR STATE, UH, AND THEN DRILLING DOWN TO OUR REGION.

ALL OF THAT TRICKLES DOWN TO THE COMMUNITIES.

SO, UH, HERE IN THE, IN ADDISON, OTHER ENTERING SUBURBS, DALLAS, UH, MOST OF, UH, THOSE

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AREAS ARE BUILT OUT.

SO WHAT WE SEE WITH NEW INVESTMENT, WHICH IS DRIVEN BY JOB GROWTH.

SO ANYTIME JOBS ARE CREATED, HOUSING IS NEED, IS CREATED, RETAIL DEMAND, UH, IS CREATED NEED FOR AMENITIES IS CREATED.

SO THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRING IN TEXAS, CREATING ALL THOSE JOBS, CREATING ALL THAT POPULATION AND POWER GENERATION, IS ALSO CREATING THAT NEED FOR HOUSING AND AMENITIES.

AND HERE IN THAT INNER RIG SUBURBS, WE SEE THAT THROUGH REDEVELOPMENT AND REUSE AT THE EDGES OF OUR REGION, WE SEE THAT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF VACANT LAND, TYPICALLY WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING AND THE INITIAL LEVEL OF SERVICES THAT IS NEEDED FOR THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.

UH, WITH, UH, OUR, OUR RECENT ZONING CASES AND, AND, AND THIS, UH, DIALOGUE, YOU'RE REALLY SEEING THE OUTCOMES, THE GROWING PAINS OF CHANGE.

SO THAT REDEVELOPMENT AND REUSE THAT OCCURS HERE AND THAT CHANGE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF VACANT LAND, UH, AT THE EDGES OF OUR REGION.

ALL THE COMMUNITIES IN DF W ARE FUELING THESE GROWTH PRESSURES.

EACH ONE IS DIFFERENT, BUT WHAT WE'RE FACING HERE IS NOT UNIQUE.

IT IS THE RESULT OF US BEING IN ONE OF THE MOST IN DEMAND REGIONS IN THE COUNTRY.

IT'S A, IT'S A PRODUCT OF OUR PROSPERITY.

SO RATHER THAN CONTINUE TO JUST HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS AND NOT MOVE THE BALL FORWARD, WE REALLY WANNA TAKE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO ADVANCE SOME MORE, UH, THOUGHTFUL DIALOGUE AND MOVE FORWARD AND DISCUSS WHAT ADDISON WILL BE LIKE IN THE FUTURE, WHAT OUR VISION FOR ADDISON IS.

SO, ADDISON, UH, AS I SPOKE TO EARLIER, UH, HAS A LONG HISTORY OF BEING WELL MANAGED AND, AND THAT, UH, REPUTATION COMES FROM ITS PROACTIVENESS, AND PARTICULARLY IT'S PROACTIVENESS RELATED TO LONG-RANGE PLANNING.

UH, LONG-RANGE PLANNING IS, UH, IN ADDITION TO OUR LOCATIONAL ADVANTAGES, A BIG PART OF THE STORY AS TO WHY ADDISON IS ADDISON AND WHY WE HAVE SUCH A DESIRABLE PLACE.

SO OVER THE YEARS YOU'VE HAD PLANNING EFFORTS SUCH AS ADDISON 2020.

WE'VE HAD VARIOUS ITERATIONS OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, THE PRIMARY GROWTH MANAGEMENT DOCUMENT THAT CITIES USE TO, TO SHAPE THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

UH, OTHER MORE DETAILED STUDIES RELATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE, SUCH AS A PARKS MASTER PLAN, TRAILS MASTER PLAN, MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

AND THEN OCCASIONALLY WE DRILL DOWN, UH, VERY GRANULARLY ON SPECIFIC AREAS OF TOWN THAT WE WANNA FOCUS, UH, UH, DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS ON.

SO THOSE WE CALL SPECIAL AREA STUDIES.

SO WE HAD THE MIDWAY SOUTH STUDY MOST RECENTLY, THE ADDISON CIRCLE SPECIAL AREA STUDY.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THE INWOOD CORRIDOR SPECIAL AREA STUDY.

UH, MOST NOTABLY WITH OUR LONG-RANGE PLANNING EFFORTS.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME RECENTLY ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS AND THE SPECIAL AREA STUDIES.

WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK MORE BROADLY.

UH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME AS WELL, GIVEN THE TRANSITION IN CITY MANAGEMENT TO DO THAT.

AND THE, THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY THERE IS THROUGH AN UPDATE TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT WAS LAST UPDATED, UH, 10 YEARS AGO, SO 2013, AND BASED ON BEST PRACTICES FOR COMMUNITIES, IT'S, IT REALLY IS TIME TO DO THAT.

AND I THINK THAT IS THE, UH, BEST TIME AND THE MOST APPROPRIATE TIME FOR US TO LOOK AT MAJOR ISSUES LIKE HOUSING.

AND NOT ONLY HOUSING, BUT ALSO REDEVELOP POLICY.

BECAUSE THIS DYNAMIC WE HAVE WITH ADDISON BEING A DESIRABLE PLACE TO DEVELOP AND REDEVELOPMENT OCCURRING AND DECLINE OCCURRING IN PROPERTIES THAT, UH, MAYBE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY ANYMORE, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO AS A TOWN, THAT DYNAMICS STILL GOING TO OCCUR.

SO IT'S VERY CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE THAT REFLECTS MODERN TIMES.

SO NOT SOMETHING 10 YEARS OLD, BUT ALSO SOMETHING THAT IS VISIONARY AND REFLECTIVE OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO AS A COMMUNITY AND WHAT ADDISON SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT A COUPLE OPTIONS.

UH, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE, WHAT I JUST DISCUSSED IS WE NEED TO, TO UPDATE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UH, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY ON, UH, MY DEPARTMENT'S WORK PLAN.

UH, WE WERE, UH, INCLUDED AS A BUDGET REQUEST, UH, WITH THE LAST, UH, BUDGET.

UH, BUT DUE TO UPCOMING TRANSITIONS, UH, MAJOR CHANGES ON COUNCIL.

UM, WE DID NOT KNOW THE CITY MANAGEMENT WAS CHANGING AT THAT TIME, BUT THAT IS ALSO RELEVANT NOW.

UM, WE FELT IT WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE TO ADDRESS THE COMPREHENSIVE

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PLAN UPDATE THIS SUMMER.

UH, GIVEN THE LENGTH OF THAT PROCESS, IT'S NOT A ONE TO FEW MONTH PROCESS.

THAT'S A, A 12 TO 18 MONTH PROCESS.

SO, UH, HAVING A NEW COUNCIL WHERE YOU HAVE LONG-TERM COUNCIL MEMBERS IN PLACE TO APPOINT PEOPLE, UH, WOULD BE, UH, UH, WAS FORMER CITY MANAGEMENT'S APPROACH AND FELT IT WAS MOST APPROPRIATE.

SO, UH, WE COULD DEFER THIS DISCUSSION, UH, TO THAT TIME, UH, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE AT, IN THE SUMMER, AND REALLY TAKE A DEEP DIVE ON HOUSING POLICY THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

BUT REALLY MORE BROADLY, EVEN WITH THAT PROCESS, UH, IT NEEDS TO BE, UH, LIVE UP TO ITS NAME AND THAT IT NEEDS TO BE COMPREHENSIVE.

SO THERE NEEDS TO BE A VISIONING COMPONENT OF THAT.

UH, BUT IT NEEDS TO LOOK AT ISSUES BEYOND JUST LAND USE AND REDEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING, BUT REALLY TRY TO INTEGRATE ALL THESE GREAT PLANNING EFFORTS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST DECADE AND CREATING A TR TRUE STRATEGIC PLANNING DOCUMENT FOR THE TOWN.

THAT IS A NEED.

AND I THINK THERE'LL BE GREAT VALUE IN THAT.

THE TOWN HAS A HISTORY OF THAT WITH THE ADDISON 2020 PLAN.

A WONDERFUL PLAN, SIMPLE, UH, AND BEAUTIFULLY EXECUTED.

UH, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT, UH, UH, UH, SAME LINE OF THINKING AND PUSH FORWARD FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS IN ADDISON.

UH, THE SECOND OPTION THAT WE, UH, WOULD PROPOSE FOR THE COUNCIL, UM, GIVEN THIS ONGOING DIALOGUE THAT, UM, UH, HAS CREATED A, UH, UH, A FAIR AMOUNT OF INPUT PERCEIVED.

UH, WE HAVE A WEBSITE, WE'VE GOT DOOR HANGERS, WE'VE GOT SIGNS, UH, WE HEAR THAT MESSAGING ON STAFF, SO WE UNDERSTAND IT'S A, IT'S A POLICY ISSUE THAT PEOPLE ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT AND, AND I WOULD ASSUME WANT TO ADDRESS THAT URGENTLY.

UM, SO, UH, WITH THAT, WE PROPOSED A SECOND OPTION, UH, TO ESSENTIALLY CREATE A PHASE ONE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE THAT REALLY FOCUSES PURELY ON, UH, THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE OF HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT.

UH, SO WITH THAT, UH, WE WOULD RECOMMEND ESTABLISHING A SPECIAL PROJECT COMMITTEE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID FOR THE SPECIAL AREA STUDIES, BUT THIS ONE BEING MORE BROADER, POLICY FOCUSED.

AND THEN, UH, REALLY TAKING THE TIME TO, TO DIVE DEEP INTO ONE, OUR HISTORY.

HOW ARE LAND USE PATTERNS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE? HOW ARE THOSE DEVELOPED AND, AND HOW THEY'RE LIKELY TO EVOLVE.

UH, BUT THEN ALSO, UH, UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT JUST, UH, AN ASPIRATIONAL ISSUE.

UM, WHAT GETS PROPOSED, WHAT GETS PRESENTED TO MY DEPARTMENT, WHAT ULTIMATELY MOVES FORWARD TO COUNCIL IS, UM, INFLUENCED BY THE PHYSICAL CONSTRAINTS OF THE TOWN.

WHAT LAND IS AVAILABLE, HOW DIFFICULT SITES ARE TO REDEVELOP, WHAT SITES ARE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT LAND USE, BUT THEN ALSO WHAT THE MARKET IS DEMANDING.

YOU DON'T WANT TO FAVOR ANY ONE OF THOSE CONSIDERATIONS OVER THE OTHER, BUT TO HAVE A, A, A PLAN AND AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT A COMMUNITY, UH, WHAT DIRECTION A COMMUNITY CAN GO, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A VERY STRONG UNDERSTANDING OF EACH OF THOSE ISSUES AND HOW WE CAN BENEFIT FROM THAT UNDERSTANDING MOVING FORWARD TO ACHIEVE THE ASPIRATIONAL GOALS OF THE TOWN.

AND THEN WE'VE HEARD A LOT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, UH, TALKING ABOUT IMPACTS FROM VARIOUS FORMS OF HOUSING RENTAL AND OWNERSHIP AS IT RELATES TO TRAFFIC CRIME, HOUSING DIVERSITY, WHO'S INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY MORE, UH, BUILDING FORMS, ARCHITECTURE, UH, TAX-BASED IMPLICATIONS, SERVICE DEMAND.

WE REALLY WANNA TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO ALL THOSE ISSUES.

WE, WE TALK ABOUT 'EM A LOT, BUT, UH, A COMMITTEE, UH, THAT IS REALLY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXAMINE THOSE DEEPLY WOULD BE A GREAT VALUE TO THE TOWN.

AND THEN WE WOULD CONCLUDE WITH ONE, LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT POLICIES.

WHAT ARE THE STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES, UH, WITH THOSE, THINKING ABOUT WHAT OTHER CITIES MAY BE DOING.

UH, SOME THAT MAY BE, UM, CLOSE TO THE ADDISON CONTEXT, SOME THAT MAY BE DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO KNOW WHAT, WHERE THE GOOD IDEAS ARE AND HOW THEY'RE BEING IMPLEMENTED.

AND THEN, UH, ULTIMATELY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO, TO COUNSEL, UH, COMING OUT OF THAT PROCESS FOR POTENTIAL POLICY UPDATES.

SO I WOULD ANTICIPATE THIS PROCESS, UH, BE IT ABOUT A SIX MONTH PROCESS.

WE'D BRING ON A PLANNING CONSULTANT TO SUPPORT ME AND MY STAFF.

AND THEN, UH, THAT COMMITTEE WOULD, UH, DELIVER A, A REPORT, UH, TO COUNCIL, NEW COUNCIL IN THE SUMMER OF 2023.

SO, UH, THAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION, UH, GIVEN THE, THE, THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED AT THIS POINT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SPECIAL PROJECT COMMITTEE

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OPTION AND REALLY, UH, KNOCK OUT THE FIRST PHASE OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.

IF COUNCIL WISHES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, UH, DIRECTION, UH, I WOULD RESPOND NEXT MONTH WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR A PLANNING CONSULTANT.

BRING FORWARD A PLANNING SCOPE, AND, UH, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO APPOINT, UH, INTERESTED MEMBERS, UH, TO THAT COMMITTEE.

AND THEN SOME POTENTIAL, UH, ADVISORS OR, UH, MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE FROM COUNCIL AND P AND Z CUZ IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY HEAR THE, THE WORK OF THAT COMMITTEE AS WELL.

UH, ONE THING I WANNA STRESS, AND IT'S A CHALL HUGE CHALLENGE, UH, WITH COMMITTEES LIKE THIS AND JUST PLANNING IN GENERAL AND HOW WE ARE THESE DAYS, IS, UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO GET DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ON THAT COMMITTEE, BUT IT CAN'T GET TO A, A POINT WHERE THE COMMITTEE IS SO POLARIZED THAT NO ONE WANTS TO WORK TOGETHER.

CUZ IF, IF YOU HAVE A COMMITTEE LIKE THAT, IT, IT, IT JUST DOESN'T FUNCTION WELL AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO, TO REACH CONSENSUS OR COMPROMISE ON ANYTHING.

THE GOAL IS BEING PROACTIVE, BEING PRAGMATIC, BEING SOLUTIONS ORIENTED.

IT'S OKAY AND HEALTHY AND COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE TO HAVE VERY BROAD, UH, DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES THERE.

THAT'S WHAT'S BEST FOR THE PROCESS, BUT SO LONG AS THOSE PEOPLE HAVING THOSE PERSPECTIVES ARE ON THAT COMMITTEE TO, TO GET TO A SOLUTION VERSUS JUST HAVING A, A ONE-SIDED DIALOGUE.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE FOR ME.

UH, AND I WELCOME YOUR INPUT.

OKAY.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE? PREVIOUS SLIDE? YEAH.

SO YOU TALK ABOUT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER UPON TWO CANDIDATES FOR THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ALSO TWO CC MEANS CORPORATE CITIZEN, UH, NO, I, I MEAN, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

CITY COUNCIL AND THEN PNC MEMBERS.

YES, SIR.

SO ALL TWO CITY COUNCIL AND ALL DEPEND ON COMMISSIONERS.

UH, JUST 2:00 PM TWO AND TWO.

TWO AND TWO AND TWO.

TWO AND TWO.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 14 PLUS FOUR.

YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT.

18.

ANY COMMENT? YEAH, I HAD A QUICK QUESTION.

SO, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE, THE SPECIAL, DO YOU THINK THE SPECIAL COMMITTEE WOULD BE HELPFUL IN IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FINALIZATION AS WELL? UM, I THINK SO.

IT, IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.

SO STAFF OF COURSE, AND CITY COUNCIL AND P AND Z, UH, I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD FEEL FOR POTENTIAL ISSUES THAT WE KNOW WE NEED TO EXPLORE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.

BUT HAVING A COMMITTEE LIKE THAT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNEARTH SOME ADDITIONAL ISSUES THAT, UM, MAYBE WE WEREN'T, UH, TRACKING AS MUCH OR WASN'T QUITE ON OUR RADAR AS MUCH.

SO GETTING THAT PERSPECTIVE, UM, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT EVERYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF THAT COMMITTEE GOES FORWARD WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

A GOOD THOUGHT TOO, AS WELL IS SOME MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE ALSO SERVE ON A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE CUZ THEY PROVIDE, THEY CAN PROVIDE THAT PERSPECTIVE FROM THE WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE TO THAT BROADER LONGER PROCESS IF THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE.

SOMETIMES THOSE COMMITTEES CAN BE AN EMOTIONAL, UH, UH, EVENT.

UH, SO COMMITTING FOR, UH, TWO YEARS IS, UH, IS A CHALLENGE.

CAN I, CAN I GET CLARIFICATION? ARE YOU ASKING TOM IF, UH, YOU WOULD, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE WOULD INTEGRATE A COMMITTEE IN ADDITION TO, FOR OPTION ONE? SO LOOKING AT OPTION ONE, I WAS JUST ASKING ABOUT OPTION TWO, WHICH WAS IF THERE IS A, IF THERE IS A COMMITTEE, DOES THAT HELP IN, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE NEEDED TO REDO THE COMP PLAN.

I MEAN, IT'S BEEN 2013, RIGHT? IT'S 11 YEARS AGO, SO, OR NINE YEARS AGO.

SO IT'S LIKE, WE NEED TO REDO THAT.

AND I'M ASKING HIM IS WOULD THIS SPECIAL COMMITTEE BE BENEFICIAL? I KNOW WHEN WE SIT IN HERE, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE TALK, IT'S LIKE I HEAR DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND A LOT OF STUFF.

I'M LIKE, OH, DIDN'T REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT.

RIGHT? SO I'M TRYING TO SAY IS WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL IN, IN THE OVERALL? I THINK HIS ANSWER WAS YES, THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WANT.

I MEAN, I LIKE TO HEAR OTHER, I MEAN, I, I DEFINITELY DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING.

AND , I LIKE TO HEAR OTHER, OTHER PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVES.

AND IF, AND YOU, YOU SEE TOM, WHAT I FELT IS WHEN VALERIE, DAVID COLLINS BROUGHT THIS NO MORE PERMANENCY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WELCOME THEM BECAUSE IT IS TIME FOR US TO REVIEW AND, UH, WHAT WE HAVE DONE RIGHT? UH, OR WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS NOT RIGHT.

AND

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THEN, UH, HOW CAN WE IMPROVE IT? HOW CAN WE HAVE A BETTER DIALOGUE AMONG US OR SOMETHING? THEY, IN THEIR PERSPECTIVE, THEY MAY NOT KNOW WHAT WE HAVE DONE.

WHETHER THE, THE PROCEDURES OR THE, UH, TAX INCENTIVES, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

THEY ARE, THEY ARE NOT JUST NORMAL RENTAL NORMAL APARTMENTS.

THEN WE CAN DO EVEN MORE TO FIND OUT WHERE WE CAN BUILD MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

RIGHT? SO WHICH AREA, WHICH IS THIS BIG, RIGHT? 3.3 SQUARE MILES, THE AIRPORT TAKE AWAY ONE THIRD OF THE LAND, THEN REMAINING TWO THIRDS WITH EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, EXISTING PROJECT APPROVED IN APARTMENTS.

WHERE ELSE IS THE BEST SITE FOR THE, IN THE FUTURE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, YOU KNOW, AND FOR MULTI-FAMILY OR FOR EVEN TOWN HOMES.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUR IDEAS ACROSS, YOU KNOW, NOT, I ALWAYS VIEW OPPOSITION MEANS IMPROVEMENT.

SO IF YOU USE THIS PERSPECTIVE SO WE CAN IMPROVE THE CITY SERVICE EVEN BETTER.

SO, UM, I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN WHAT I CAN DO, YOU KNOW, SO CAN WE, UH, CAN WE DO SOMETHING? SO YOU'VE GOT THREE OPTIONS FOR US, AND I'D LIKE TO GET A FEEL FOR HOW MY FELLOW CO COUNCIL COLLEAGUES ARE LEANING, UM, ON OPTION ONE, UH, OPTION TWO, UM, FOR VARIATION THEREOF TO START KIND OF SHAPING TOGETHER.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, KEN.

UM, GREAT JOB SHAPING TOGETHER HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I, I'D LIKE TO ASK KEN ABOUT, UH, SOMETHING ON ITEM ON, UH, PAGE FOUR HERE.

WE'RE, WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

I, WE JUST, CAN YOU JUST GIVE US A BRIEF UNDERSTANDING THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CUZ A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T AWARE OF WHAT IT IS OR THAT IT EVEN EXISTS AND GIVE US A LITTLE HISTORY ON IT.

SURE.

UH, SO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE, UH, OVERALL VISIONING DOCUMENTS THAT CITIES USE TO, UH, PRIMARILY TO ESTABLISH POLICIES FOR GROWTH AND REDEVELOPMENT.

SO THEY'RE VERY MUCH, UH, HEAVY ON THE LAND USE SIDE, BUT IT ALSO ADDRESSES A BROAD RANGE OF, UH, MUNICIPAL CONSIDERATIONS SUCH AS INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING, UH, STAFFING PLANNING.

SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY A, UH, BROAD-BASED VISIONING DOCUMENT AND STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, THAT COVERS, UH, UH, A LONG RANGE OF TIME.

SO, UH, IT CAN GO ANYWHERE FROM FIVE YEARS TO 30 YEARS.

UH, TYPICALLY WHAT CITIES DO IS THE LAW ADOPT A A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT LOOKS OUT 20 YEARS AND THEN THEY'LL DO PERIODIC MAINTENANCE TO THE PLAN.

SO IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT.

UM, SO YOU'LL DO, UH, MINOR AMENDMENTS, UH, MAYBE ANNUALLY, MAYBE EVERY COUPLE YEARS OR AS NEEDED.

AND THEN YOU'LL TYPICALLY DO A, UM, MORE SIGNIFICANT, UH, REVIEW AND UPDATE TO THE PLAN, UH, PERHAPS AT A FIVE TO 10 YEAR CYCLE.

UM, SO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2013.

UM, IT, UH, IS A GREAT DOCUMENT.

UH, THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN LEARNING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF ADDISON, UM, UH, ONE OF MY PREDECESSORS, CARMEN MORAN, UH, DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB WITH THAT PLAN AND THAT IT PROVIDES A WONDERFUL HISTORY OF THE TOWN AND HOW IT BECAME WHAT IT IS.

UM, IT ALSO WAS, UM, REDEVELOPMENT FOCUSED.

UM, THAT WAS A GOOD APPROACH AT THAT TIME.

UM, THE CHALLENGE WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT FOCUS THAT IT TOOK IS, UM, WHAT WE SAW AS PROPERTIES THAT WERE STABLE AND UNLIKELY TO REDEVELOP, UM, BACK IN 2013.

UH, WE'VE EXPERIENCED A LOT SINCE THEN.

SO, UH, PANDEMIC WAS A, A BIG CHANGE OBVIOUSLY.

BUT EVEN WITH THAT, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTIES THAT WE FEEL ARE APPROPRIATE FOR REDEVELOPMENT NOW THAT, UH, MAYBE WERE STABLE AND NOT CONSIDERED FOR THAT, UH, AT THAT TIME.

SO WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY A, A POLICY GAP, UH, IF YOU WILL, UH, PARTICULARLY AS IT RATES RELATES TO REDEVELOPMENT.

UM, HOUSING, UH, POLICY IS, UM, ADDRESSED A LITTLE BIT IN THERE.

UH, WE ALSO HAD THE, THE AMENDMENTS TO THE

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HOUSING POLICY IN 2016.

I THINK GIVEN THAT THAT JUST LONG TERM IS GOING TO BE A CONSTANT POINT OF ANXIETY, UM, NOT JUST IN ADDISON BUT IN OUR REGION, UH, CUZ WE'RE A REGION THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE, CONTINUE TO GET NEW INVESTMENT, UH, WE DO NEED TO SPEND A LOT MORE TIME THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST ON HOUSING POLICY AND, AND HAVE A LOT MORE DETAIL AS IT RELATES TO THAT.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A NEED.

THE HOUSING PROPOSALS ARE NEVER GOING TO GO AWAY.

I'M ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM AS LONG AS I'M HERE AND HAVING STRONG POLICY TO ONE, KEEP OUT, UH, UH, BAD PLANS, BUT ALSO TO SUPPORT REALLY GOOD PLANS THAT ARE GOOD FOR THE TOWN IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.

SO HAVING THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT ADDRESSES THAT IN A POSITIVE AND BALANCED WAY IS IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU, KEN.

THAT, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S HELPFUL.

I WANNA ALSO POINT OUT ON THIS, YOU SEE ON THIS, UH, IS IT PAGE FOUR? ADDISON? I WANNA POINT OUT HERE MY COLLEAGUES AT, FOR THE WHOLE PEOPLE , LIKE ME, ADDISON 2020, UH, I WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY, WE UNDERTOOK THAT IN 20, IN 1988.

UH, THAT WAS A GREAT UNDER, I GOT A GREAT UNDERSTANDING OF, OF VISIONING THAT ADDISON WAS FIELD, A LOT OF FIELDS.

I THINK WE WERE MAYBE 8,000 PEOPLE AT THE TIME.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY TOOK A, I WAS 27 YEARS OLD WHEN I WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE AND THEY WERE ASKING A 27 YEAR OLD TO VISION 30 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

AND, AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, HAVING BEEN HERE THAT LONG, IT'S UH, IT, IT'S A GOOD FEELING TO HAVE, UH, PARTICIPATED AND SEEN HOW MANY TIMES ADDISON HAS LISTENED TO THE RESIDENTS, PUT TOGETHER COMMITTEES, BROUGHT, BROUGHT PEOPLE TOGETHER, UH, ASKED THE ASK THEM TO PARTICIPATE.

AND, UH, FORTUNATELY WE HAVE, WE HAVE ALL THESE GOOD PEOPLE THAT HAVE SHOWED UP HERE TONIGHT AND, UH, I'M THANKFUL FOR, FOR THEM, UH, GETTING INVOLVED.

I'LL HAVE A FEW MORE COMMENTS, BUT I'M GONNA, I HAVE A QUESTION.

LET THIS GO.

SO WHAT DOES, UH, PARTICIPATION LOOK LIKE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? IS IT SIMILAR TO WHAT THIS, UM, UH, SIX MONTH COMMITTEE WOULD LOOK LIKE? AS FAR AS DURATION OR NO, AS FAR AS PICK UP OF THE COMMITTEE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION? UH, I, I WOULD SAY, UH, IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A SIMILAR LEVEL OF, UH, UM, MEMBERS.

UM, YOU MAY SOMETIMES ORGANIZATIONS WOULD MAY WANT TO HAVE LIKE, UH, SAY LIKE A REPRESENTATION FROM LIKE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE STAKEHOLDERS IN ADDISON THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE, UM, UH, RESIDENTS.

SO BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WELL.

SO WE STILL HAVE THE OPEN MEETING IN, IN JANUARY REGARDLESS.

YES, I JUST WANTED, THAT'S WHAT I ASKED FOR.

I'LL CONFIRM THAT.

I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THE OPEN MEETING IN JANUARY BECAUSE WE NEED THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH US THAT FEEL WE'RE NOT LISTENING.

THEY NEED A FORUM WHERE THEY CAN VOICE THEIR OPINIONS THAT IS NOT IN A PUBLIC HEARING SETTING WHERE WE CANNOT RESPOND TO THEM AND HAVE THEIR, SO I AGREE, COREY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU EILEEN.

I AGREE.

YEAH, I JUST SAID I AGREE AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UM, HAVE THAT MEETING BEFORE WE DETERMINE HOW WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD.

I THINK WE NEED THAT INPUT BEFORE WE, WE MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

I'M, I'M, I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREEMENT WITH YOU, UM, BECAUSE I THINK BOTH OF THESE OPTIONS ARE, THEY'LL, THEY CAN BE EFFECTIVE AND SIMILAR, UH, BUT DEPENDING ON, DEPENDING HOW THIS THING SHAPES OUT THROUGH THE CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY, I FEEL LIKE THAT WILL GIVE US MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE LEGS TO MAKE SURE THAT SIX MONTHS, TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A FRUSTRATED COMMUNITY THAT FEELS LIKE THE COUNCIL'S NOT LISTENING TO THEM.

SO I THINK THE BROADER, WIDER, UH, BASE THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT, THE MORE EFFECTIVE THE PLAN WILL BE GOING FORWARD.

CAN WE, CAN WE DO TAKE NONE OF THE OPTIONS? WELL, THIS IS JUST DISCUSSION.

WE'RE NOT MAKING DECISIONS DO NOTHING AS AN OPTION.

THAT'S OPTION THREE.

IT'S ALWAYS AN OPTION.

I LIKE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS.

I DO.

UM, THE, THE ONE THING I DO, I DID NOTICE ON, ON SLIDE, THE SLIDE THAT SAYS, UH, PAGE NUMBER SEVEN WHERE IT SAYS, UH, VARIED PERSPECTIVES SOLUTIONS ORIENTED AND AVOID A POLARIZED COMMITTEE DYNAMIC.

UM, TO ME,

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UM, YEAH, POLARIZED CAN MEAN A LOT OF THINGS, BUT IT CONNOTES LIKE A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION.

IT'S A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION.

AND I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE VARIED DIVERSE OPINIONS, SOMETIMES IT CAN FEEL P YOU KNOW, YOU CAN FEEL POLARIZED AND THAT'S OKAY.

UH, WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH THAT AS A COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THEIR OPINIONS AND WE NEED IF, UH, IF IT TAKES SIX HOURS, IF IT TAKES, WE NEED TO EXTEND THE SESSION TO ANOTHER SESSION, WE'VE GOT TO WORK IT OUT.

AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, AVOIDING A POLARIZED SITUATION, WE JUST SORT OF EMBRACE WHATEVER, UH, WHATEVER COMES OF IT AND, AND THEN THAT WILL INFORM OUR NEXT, OUR NEXT MOVES.

UH, BUT I LIKE, I DO LIKE, I LIKE, I LIKE EVERYTHING YOU'VE GOT HERE AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE ALMOST THERE.

I THINK YOU DID A GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK.

WE HAD A LETTER TONIGHT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE READ AND THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS CUZ THE MS MS. WALLACE COMMENT, DR.

ANNOUNCED HER NAME.

RIGHT? UM, KIND OF BRINGS UP, WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

WE'RE JUST GONNA REHASH THE CIRCULAR DISCUSSION.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT DECIDING TONIGHT, IT'S JUST DO WE NEED TO READ THE LETTER? I CHECK WITH THE, WHICH, UH, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS RECOGNIZED, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CITIZEN NAMED ING CHRISTINE WALLOCK EARLIER I MENTIONED THAT.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, THEN UH, SHE'S, SHE IS AGAINST, YOU KNOW, APARTMENTS AND THE RENTALS.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I WANT TO PUT THIS BEGIN RECORD.

YEAH.

BUT THE POINT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE'S A, AND WE NEED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION, I'M KIND OF JUMPING THE GUN SO I WON'T GO FURTHER.

YEAH.

IF, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A COMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE HOUSING IS AND WE STILL LEAVE A SLIVER OF RENTAL POSSIBILITY, THERE'S STILL GONNA BE A BASE OF PEOPLE THAT AREN'T HAPPY.

SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS HER COMMENT, BASICALLY WHY I HAVE A CASE.

WELL, I THINK THERE'S A DEMOCRACY, AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE OPEN DIALOGUE.

EVERYBODY CAN EXPRESS WHAT HE LIKES, AND THEN, UH, THEY NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.

AND THEN, UH, BESIDE I HAVE A STRONG CONFIDENCE, THEY CAN GIVE US SOME SUGGESTION RECOMMENDATION WITH WHICH AREA CAN BE REDEVELOPED INTO THE OFFICE, SINGLE FAMILY, HOME TOWN, HOMES, OR EVEN MORE APARTMENT.

JUST DEPENDS ON THE HIGHEST BEST LAND USE.

AND ALSO THE, THE NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO YOU AND I, WE DON'T MAKE THOSE DECISIONS EVEN WITH WHAT THE DECISION WE HAVE MADE IS BASED ON THE ADVISORY COMMITTEES, AND THERE'S A SET PROCEDURE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN REVIEW DEVELOPER SUB SUBMIT THE PLAN AND, AND REVIEWED BY, BY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THEN APPROVED BY P AND Z, THEN COME TO COUNCIL CHAMBER.

SO THEY ARE PRETTY LENGTHY REVIEW AND PROCEDURES.

SO WE DON'T BLINDLY MAKE DECISION BASED ON WHAT DEVELOPER WANTS.

SO, UM, I WOULD EXPECT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN INCLUDE WIDE, BROAD RANGE OF CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, UM, EVERYBODY WILL WEIGHING, I THINK IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR ALL, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY CONFIDENT IT CAN BE DONE.

YEAH.

WELL, AND I THINK THE KEY THING FOR LATER IN JANUARY IS WE'LL HAVE OUR NEW CITY MANAGER IN PLACE.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT HE'S INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, IN THE LISTENING PART.

AND, UM, IT'LL BE A GREAT WAY TO GET HIM ENGAGED, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OFF THE BAT WITH SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

A GREAT WAY TO GET HIM A GREAT, A GREAT WAY.

YES.

AND, UM, AT THE JANUARY MEETING, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE GONNA HELP US THERE.

UM, I'D LIKE YOU TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE TAX BASED IMPLICATIONS, UM, HIGHEST AND BEST USE AND HOW THAT GOES ABOUT AND, AND WHY DECISIONS ARE MADE THE WAY THEY ARE.

TRAFFIC NOISE, UM, BUSY TRAFFIC STREETS.

AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT FOR THE MEETINGS, BECAUSE I KNOW THOSE THINGS WILL COME UP.

AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO DISCUSS WHY PLANNING AND ZONING AND COUNCIL MAKES THOSE DECISIONS AND WHY CERTAIN LAND IS BETTER FOR SOME USES AND NOT OTHER USES.

AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO GET PREPARED FOR THAT.

AND CRIME STATISTICS, I WAS

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JUST GETTING READY TO SAY ON THE CRIME STATISTICS, CAN WE GET, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE, THERE, THERE'S THE WHOLE THING.

YOU KNOW, WHERE, AND I DO IT TOO AS I GO LOOK AT THE, THE LEXUS NEXUS THING.

IS THAT THE CRIME MAP CRIME? MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, LET'S, UH, LET'S GET SOME FACTS OUT THERE ABOUT, ABOUT CRIME, YOU KNOW, AS IT RELATES TO THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAND USE AND HOW, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, HOW THAT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, VIEWED IN ALL OF THIS INSTEAD OF, UH, JUST, I DON'T KNOW, JUST, WE JUST NEED TO PULL DOWN FACTS SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE THAT AS A FOUNDATION.

AND THIS MAY BE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE DECISION TOO, UH, THAT WE, MAYBE WE CREATE A WEBSITE THAT HAS INFORMATION ON IT.

UH, THE COTEX WEBSITE DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION ON IT.

SO IF WE HAVE A INFORMATION WEBSITE THAT ADDS TO IT AND TELLS ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD HAVE THIS CRIME STATISTICS AND OTHER ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS, THEN THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD INFORMATION.

LIKE AN, LIKE AN ICO TEXT, LIKE INFORMED CITIZEN BAD AS THE TEXAS, THIS IS ALL GREAT FEEDBACK.

I DO WANNA, SORRY, SET EXPECTATIONS.

I, I AM ONE PERSON.

.

THIS IS, THIS IS A HEAVY LIFT FOR JANUARY.

.

NO, YOU'LL, YOU'RE NOT.

WELL, JUST THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND, RIGHT? FORGET YOU'RE BIG .

OH, I FORGOT THAT LONG AGO.

.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHER STAFF RELATED TO THE PROJECT WILL GIVE YOU HELP TOO.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

LIKE A CHIEF WILL PREPARE CRIME STATISTICS, RIGHT? THEN WE HAVE, UH, ANYBODY ANALYZE THE TRAFFIC NOISE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, FURNACE, FURNACE DEPARTMENT WILL ANALYZE THE TEXT BASE, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

WE HAVE TO WORK AS A TEAM.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

SO I THINK, AND I THINK THE LEADING FACTOR THERE IS LOOKING TO HOW WE LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AND LOOKING TO PROCESS, NOT NECESSARILY HAVING EVERY FACT ABOUT EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THE TOWN AT YOUR FINGERTIPS IN THAT MOMENT THAT WE MEET, BUT, UH, JUST KIND OF A, A AT LEAST A BROAD CONTEXT OF UNDERSTANDING OF HOW, HOW THE PROCESSES WORK UNDERNEATH ALL OF THOSE CATEGORIES.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THAT WORK HERE.

WE PRODUCE A A 30 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT TAKES A DEEP DIVE INTO A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES.

UH, THE, THE ONE THING I WANNA STRESS, HOWEVER WE ADDRESS THIS MOVING FORWARD, THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY COMPLEX ISSUE.

THERE IS NOT ONE CORRECT ANSWER, RIGHT? IT, IT'S, IT, EVERY CITY IS STRUGGLING WITH THIS.

AND THERE'S, UH, NOT A GREAT EXAMPLE OF CITIES THAT ARE HANDLING IT PERFECTLY OR, OR HAVE FOUND THE, THE, UH, SECRET TO SUCCESS IN ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE.

IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE A STRUGGLE.

WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN OUR POLICIES AND GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

BUT IT'S, IT'S A CHALLENGE.

THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL VERY CHALLENGING ISSUES HERE IN ADDISON THAT, THAT, UH, EVEN MAKE THIS MORE CHALLENGING.

SO IT'S NOT AN EASY, THIS IS NOT AN EASY THING TO ANSWER.

THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, UH, A VARIETY OF APPROACHES THAT WE'LL NEED TO TAKE MOVING FORWARD TO, TO OPTIMIZE HOW WE OPERATE.

I MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO COMMENT.

SURE.

ON PICK UP ON SOMETHING THAT DARREN SAID, HE, THERE'S A, THERE IS A WEBSITE THAT'S BEING ADVERTISED AROUND TOWN AND, UM, I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING A FLOOD OF EMAILS, UM, WITH, UH, AND THEY'RE SENT TO US WITH A CLICK.

THERE'S, THEY'RE NO QUESTIONS.

UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST A NUMBERS GAME THAT, THAT, THAT'S BEING PLAYED.

UM, I'VE HAD A COUPLE COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, A CO A FEW PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY ASK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR, ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR WEBSITE.

CUZ AT FIRST THEY THOUGHT PERHAPS IT WAS A SPO FOR, UH, SOMETHING THAT WAS TRYING TO GET INFORMATION OUT OF THEM.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE, I'VE VISITED THE WEBSITE AND I'VE FOUND THAT IT HA IT, IT HAS SOME HOUSING STATISTICS ON IT.

UH, YOU CAN SEND AN EMAIL.

I RECEIVED, UH, I RECEIVED NO RESPONSE TO MY EMAIL.

THE, THE WEBSITE, UH, THE WEBSITE, UH, HAS, UH, NOTHING IN NO INFORMATION ABOUT THE AUTHOR, THE WEBMASTER.

THERE ARE NO ORGANIZERS NAMES OR TELEPHONE NUMBERS TO CALL RESIDENTS SIGNING THE PETITION.

UH, DO NOT HAVE VISIBILITY TO OTHERS IN THE GROUP THAT THEY ARE BEING ASKED TO JOIN AND SUPPORT.

AND WITH JUST A FEW FACTS, AS IT, AS IT POINTS OUT ON THE WEBSITE, THEY SIMPLY PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT GETS COLLECTED AND SENT TO SOME ANONYMOUS GROUP OR

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INDIVIDUAL.

ADDITIONALLY, THERE, THERE'S NO SOURCE IDENTIFYING THAT THE, THE RESIDENTS COULD GO SOMEWHERE AND VERIFY WHAT'S BEING PUT ON THIS WEBSITE.

UM, SO SEVERAL RESIDENTS, UH, HAVE, THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO HAVE, HAVE TRIED TO GET SOME RESPONSE FROM THIS WEBSITE.

AND, UH, THERE'S NONE, NONE FORTHCOMING.

UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT, AND THIS IS SO THAT WE CAN HELP TO SPREAD GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.

I WANNA FIND OUT IF THE STAFF HAS, HAS BEEN CONTACTED BY HOW MANY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS.

I WANNA KNOW IF THE STAFF HAS BEEN CONTACTED BY ANYONE OR ANY RESIDENT WHO CLAIMS OWNERSHIP TO THIS WEBSITE.

WHAT, WHAT WEBSITE? THERE'S A WEBSITE THAT'S BEING ADVERTISED THROUGHOUT THE TOWN AND ON FLYERS.

UH, SO ON THE QR ON THE FLYERS AND THE SIGNS, THERE'S A QR CODE.

YOU MM-HMM.

, CLICK ON IT, IT GOES TO A WEBSITE.

I'VE GOT IT UP HERE.

AND, AND YOU ENTER YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HIT THE BUTTON AND IT SEND, IT'S OUR WEBSITE.

WHO, WHAT WEBSITE IS HE? T OF MADISON, TEXAS.

YEAH.

BUT THERE'S, THERE'S, WHAT WAS YOUR, YOUR POINT? MY POINT HERE IS THAT WE HAVE, WE, WELL, I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT IF IN FACT, WE, WE KNOW WHO, WHO'S RUNNING THIS WEBSITE.

EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO'S RUNNING IT.

NOBODY CONTACTED US.

NOBODY CONTACTED YOU.

NO, SIR.

DID ANYONE APPLY FOR PERMIT OR TO SOLICIT THE PERMIT? THE DOOR HANGERS? NO.

NOT TO LIST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.

IT IT, I MEAN, ARE THEY REQUIRED? IS IT SOMETHING, IS IT, UH, I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED A, A SIMILAR ISSUE.

SO I, I DON'T KNOW THE REGULATION OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

UM, YOU DON'T REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY POLITICAL SCIENCE, IF WE RUN FOR OFFICE, WE HAVE TO PUT A DISCLAIMER.

FOR EXAMPLE, GEORGE ALPHA, MAYOR, TREASURER, TREASURER, THE NAME OF THE TREASURER.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE DISCLAIMER.

SO THE REASON BEING IS YOU, YOU DON'T WANT SOME PEOPLE PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE REASON.

SO IT'S, NO, I THINK, NO, I WOULDN'T SAY MISLEADING NECESSARILY.

IT'S JUST A TRANSPARENCY AS WE GO FORWARD.

IT'D BE NICE TO KNOW WHO, WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, HEADING UP THE ORGANIZATION.

BUT THE DIALOGUE IN, IN, UH, JANUARY, PROBABLY DO THAT.

AND I SIGNED UP SEVERAL TIMES.

AND I GUESS, UH, I'M, UH, I'M BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST, OR MAYBE I'M BEING MY, I'VE CHECKED MY SPAM SO IT'S NOT GOING SPAM.

ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

I SUGGESTED THAT THEY POST THE FAQ THAT YOU WROTE CAUSE IT'S REALLY GOOD UP THERE, BUT WASN'T POSTED.

SO I'VE JUST, AGAIN, I'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY RESIDENTS WONDERING IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY KNOWS ABOUT, IF THEY PROMOTE IT AT ALL, IF THEY'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE GO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

AND SO WE, WE WANT TO, OF COURSE, NOT SPREAD INTO DISIN DISINFORMATION.

UM, NOT THAT THERE IS, BUT SIR, ARE WE SAYING WE CANNOT EXPRESS OUR OPINION? THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

I I WASN'T SAYING THAT.

NO, NO, NOT YOU.

WELL, NO, NO, NO.

IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S THE COMMUNIST COMING.

THE GROUP CAN DON'T TOGETHER AND EXPRESS.

WE DON'T HAVE DISCUSSION FROM THE FLOOR WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.

SURE.

I KNOW.

IT'S HARD TO RESIST.

BELIEVE ME.

IT'S HARD.

I'D LIKE TO RE I'D LIKE TO REITERATE THAT I'M, I'M GLAD TO HEAR PEOPLE'S VOICE.

ABSOLUTELY.

THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO, TO GET PEOPLE'S VOICE OUT, GET IT ON THE AGENDA AND TALK ABOUT IT.

IT'S JUST, UM, I WAS JUST SAYING THEY DIDN'T REPLY TO ME.

I DIDN'T GET ON THE LIST.

WELL, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS TODAY, TONIGHT.

UH, TRAFFIC DECLINE CRIMES, THOSE ALL NEED TO BE ITEMS, THAT INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE DISTRIBUTED AND IT NEEDS TO BE DISTRIBUTED, UM, CORRECTLY.

UH, SO PERHAPS MAKE AN OUTREACH TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED, YOU KNOW, THE, THE 300 OR SO PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP.

I KNOW I'VE, I'VE CONTACTED SEVERAL 16.

SO, UM, I THINK, I THINK, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? I THINK MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IS HAVING OUR, AN OPEN DIALOGUE WHERE WE CAN ALL BE THERE TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE, UH, THE OPEN DIALOGUE SO THAT WE CAN HEAR EVERYONE OUT THAT'S TRYING TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES AND GO FROM THERE.

YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT REALLY INTERESTING IS THE MORATORIUM THAT WAS MENTIONED.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS AN OPTION.

I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT KEN NEEDS TO, WE NEED TO ASK KEN TO, UM, GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT KIND OF IMPACT DOES THAT HAVE? WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE PROCESSES THAT ARE GOING ON? HOW DOES THAT IMPACT, UM, YOU KNOW, FINANCIALLY THOSE THAT, THAT ARE BEEN, BEEN ASKED OR INVITED OR HAVE COME TO OUR TOWN TRY TO, UH, BENEFIT

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AND, AND SERVE THE RESIDENTS? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IF ANYONE HAD A PROJECT CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW IN THE PIPELINE, UH, THAT WOULD HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL, UH, FINANCIAL IMPACT FOR THEM.

UH, ZONING IS ALWAYS A SPECULATIVE PROCESS.

UH, THE TOWN HAS DISCRETION TO ACT IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.

SO IT'S NOT, UH, LIKE THEY'RE, UH, NOT ALREADY ACTING WITHOUT RISK.

BUT I THINK, UH, YOU RISK, UH, UH, ONE DAMAGING, UH, THE FOLKS THAT ARE SEEKING TO INVEST IN ADDISON AND, AND JUST OVERALL REPUTATIONAL DAMAGE.

UH, I'VE WORKED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, UH, WHERE THEY WERE DEALING WITH SIMILAR ISSUES AND, UH, THEY FOUND WAYS TO FIND COMMON GROUND ON, UH, SERIOUS ISSUES RELATED TO APARTMENTS.

EVEN WHILE THERE WAS, UH, A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, COMMUNITY DIALOGUE AND ANXIETY RELATED TO APARTMENTS.

I WOULD, I WOULD THROW OUT CONCRETE MALL AND PLANO AS AN EXAMPLE.

UH, THE, SO THE OF PLANO UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY, UH, WITH, UH, SEVERAL THOUSAND APARTMENTS AND OTHER FORMS OF THE HOUSING WHILE THERE WAS A LITIGATION BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND THE CITY OVER, UH, A PETITION RELATED TO APARTMENTS.

YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A CHALLENGE BACK WHEN THE FIRST SAMS CAME UP THAT LAND WAS, WAS, UM, WAS EMPTY, COMPLETELY EMPTY.

IT WAS GREENFIELD.

AND, UH, THE RESIDENTS GOT, GOT WIND THAT, UH, SAM'S WANTED TO MOVE IN.

AND OH MY GOSH, IT WERE PITCHFORKS.

UH, IT WAS GONNA, IT WAS GONNA CAUSE TRAFFIC.

POOR NEIGHBOR.

JUST, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH CHANGE.

WELL, WE HAD, WE HAD, UM, WE HAD A, A CHALLENGE IN THAT MANY RESIDENTS DID NOT WANT IT TO COME.

WE ALSO HAD THIS TOWN SAYING, HEY, WE, THIS HAS BEEN ZONED FOR THIS FOR, SO FOR 30 YEARS, AND WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING THE TAXES ON THIS ZONING, AND WE WERE GONNA GET SUED IF WE'D SAID, UH, YOU'RE NOT TAKING AWAY THE, THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? THE OWNER'S PROPERTY RIGHTS.

SO THE TOWN WAS GONNA GET SUED, SAM'S WAS GONNA SUE US, AND THEN WE'D PAY THE FINE, WE'D LOSE AND WE'D HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM TO SUE US, RIGHT? SO THAT, THAT, THAT WAS A REALLY CHALLENGE.

BUT WHAT WE DID IS WE GOT TOGETHER, WE PUT A COM, WE PUT A COMMITTEE TOGETHER.

I WAS ON ONE OF THOSE TWO.

AND WE WORKED HARD WITH THAT, WITH THAT COMMUNITY TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT THAT WE HAD WITH SAM'S.

THAT'S WHY THAT SAM'S WAS THE ONLY SAM'S IN THE WORLD WHERE IT WAS ALL BRICK.

THE BLUE BEAUTIFUL WALL WAS PUT THERE TO DIVIDE, AND THEY LOWERED THAT, THAT SITE DOWN LIKE 14 FEET.

SO, BUT YOU KNOW, IT, IT TOOK A LOT OF WORK AND, AND, BUT IT TAKES THE WORK FROM RESIDENTS LIKE THESE BEHIND ME ARE WILLING TO STEP UP.

AND IT'S A PROCESS.

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

AND IF WE CAN GET ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DEDICATE, YOU KNOW, TO TWO DIFFERENT COMMITTEES, THAT'S TREMENDOUS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

ANY, ANY MORE QUESTION, QUESTION.

ALRIGHT.

IF NO, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU, KEN.

APPRECIATE IT.

I WANNA THANK YOU ALL OF YOU FOR COMING.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS HELPFUL TO LISTEN TO ALL THE OPINIONS AND THE SUGGESTIONS.

SO, UH, I WILL YOU IN JANUARY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU GUYS.

[3. Present and Discuss Addison Athletic Club Membership Requirements.]

ITEM THREE, PRESENT, DISCUSS AS A SL CLUB MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS.

JENNA, EXCUSE SHERIFF, TO SEE OURSELVES.

HOW DOES MY HAIR LOOK BETTER? IT LOOKS GREAT.

IT'S LATEST, IT'S BETTER.

HURRY UP, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

JANET TIDWELL, DIRECTOR OF PRACTICUM RECREATION.

I ALSO HAVE WITH ME, PAT WHITE, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF RECREATION FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON.

WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB MEMBERSHIP POLICY.

THIS COUNCIL ITEM WAS, UM, OUR AGENDA ITEM WAS BROUGHT AT THE REQUEST

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OF COUNCIL PERSON, WARD AND GARDNER, AND THEY REQUESTED THAT WE MAKE A PRESENTATION ON THE FOLLOWING TOPICS.

ONE, THE MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB.

TWO HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION DOCUMENTATION AND FEASIBILITY OF USING THIS EXEMPTION IN LIEU OF CURRENT IDENTIFY IDENTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN OUR ORDINANCE.

AND THREE, ALLOWING THE DIRECTOR OF PARK AND RECREATION TO ADJUDICATE IN INDIVIDUAL APPLICATIONS REQUESTING EXCEPTIONS TO THE REQUIREMENTS.

SO, TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND, UM, ACCESS TO THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB IS DEFINED IN ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 58 66 IN THE TOWN'S CODE OF ORDINANCE.

LEMME SEE IF I CAN MOVE THIS SO I CAN REPEAT.

THERE WE GO.

UM, WHICH WAS AMENDED AND RATIFIED BY COUNSEL IN MARCH OF 2003.

THE ORDINANCE DEFINES USE OF THE AAC AS BEING LIMITED TO MEMBERS AND GUEST ONLY MEMBERSHIP TO THE ATHLETIC CLUB IS LIMITED TO BONAFIDE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON.

THEIR DEPENDENTS AND TOWN EMPLOYEES QUALIFIED DEPENDENTS ARE ANY DEPENDENT OF AN ADDISON RES RESIDENT AGES THREE MONTHS THROUGH 18 YEARS.

UM, A DEPENDENT OF AN ADDISON RESIDENT THAT IS A FULL-TIME COLLEGE STUDENT AGES 18 THROUGH 23.

PROOF OF RESIDENCY IS A MULTIPLE STEP VERIFICATION PROCESS, WHICH REQUIRES EITHER A VAL VALID DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY DRIVER'S LICENSE OR AN IDENTIFICATION CARD, WHICH SHOWS A CURRENT RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF ADDISON.

CURRENT DOCUMENT, SUCH AS A UTILITY BILL, VEHICLE REGISTRATION, INSURANCE, CREDIT CARD STATEMENT, SOMETHING THAT ALSO HAS THAT ADDRESS ON IT.

SO THOSE ARE THE TWO FORMS OF IDENTIFICATION THAT ARE REQUIRED TO PROVE THAT YOU ARE AN ADDISON RESIDENT.

UM, AND THEN IF AN APPLICANT LIVES IN AN APARTMENT ASSIGNED LEASING OFFICE, VERIFICATION FROM THE OWNER AND MANAGER OF THE, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEX, THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE VERY STRICT COMPARED TO WHAT OTHER CITIES REQUIRE TO PROVIDE RESIDENCY FOR THEIR ATHLETIC CLUB MEMBERSHIPS.

BUT THE REASON THAT THERE ARE STRICT GUIDELINES IN APPROVING MEMBERSHIP OR APPROVING PROVING THAT YOU LIVE IN ADDISON IS BECAUSE THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB CHARGES A ONE-TIME FEE OF $10 TO BE A MEMBER OF THE ATHLETIC CLUB AS LONG AS YOU LIVE IN ADDISON.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, THERE'S SOME VERY STRICT GUIDELINES TO PROVE THAT RESIDENCY.

THE ORDINANCE DOES ALLOW LIMITED EXCEPTIONS RESIDENTS WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY CONFIDENTIALITY PROGRAM.

UM, IN RESIDENTS WHO ARE ACTIVE MILITARY, WE DO ASK FOR SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION, UM, SUCH AS UTILITY BILLS TO VERIFY THAT THEY ARE ADDISON RESIDENCE, BUT THEY, THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE, THEY WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM OR ID CARD FROM PROVIDING THAT THE ORDINANCE DOES IDENTIFY INELIGIBLE CRITERIA, INDIVIDUALS WITH A TOWN BUSINESS ADDRESS OR A HOTEL ADDRESS, INCLUDING AN EXTENDED STAY HOTEL OWNERS OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT DO NOT RESIDE AT THE PROPERTY.

THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES ANNUAL RENEWAL OF THE MEMBERSHIP WITH PROOF OF CURRENT RESIDENCIES.

SO THOSE DOCUMENTS HAVE TO BE PROVIDED TO THE ATHLETIC CLUB ONCE A YEAR TO VERIFY CONTINUED MEMBERSHIP.

THE ORDINANCE ALSO ESTABLISHES A ONE-TIME MEMBERSHIP FEE.

AS WE DISCUSSED, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED BY COUNSEL IS, COULD A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION BE USED BY AN INDIVIDUAL TO PROVE RESIDENCY AND ADDISON? AND INITIALLY OUR STAFF DISCUSSED THIS AND WE THOUGHT THIS COULD BE A REALLY GOOD IDEA FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING PROBLEMS, UM, PROVIDING A DRIVER'S LICENSE FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

UM, BUT WE WANTED TO DIG INTO THIS REQUEST AND LOOK AND SEE, UM, IF THERE WERE ANY ISSUES OR CONCERNS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO APPLY FOR HOMESTEAD.

THE OWNERSHIP MUST HAVE AN INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY.

THEY MUST USE THE PROPERTY AS THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE.

UM, THEY MUST STATE THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE AN EXEMPTION ON ANOTHER RESIDENT RESIDENCE HOMESTEAD IN OR OUTSIDE OF TEXAS, AND THEY MUST HAVE A D P S DRIVER'S LICENSE OR IDENTIFICATION CARD THAT MATCHES THE ADDRESS OF THE HOMESTEAD.

I KNOW THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS FROM RESIDENTS ON THIS, AND I DID CALL AND TALK TO DALLAS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND WA WAS WALKED THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND THEY SAID THAT IT IS A MA A, A STATE LAW THAT THE PERSON APPLYING FOR

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HOMESTEAD MUST HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE OR A IDENTIFICATION CARD THAT THE ADDRESS MATCHES THE ADDRESS OF THE HOMESTEAD THEY'RE APPLYING FOR.

IF YOU LOOK ON THE APPLICATION, IT DOES SAY DRIVER'S LICENSE, PERSONAL ID CERTIFICATE, OR SOCIAL SECURITY CARD.

AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OF ASTERISKS BY IT.

YOU CAN GO TO THE ASTERISKS.

IT DOES REFER THAT A SOCIAL SECURITY CARD MAY BE REQUIRED FOR TAX PURPOSE PURPOSES.

BUT THEN WHEN YOU GO TO THE THIRD PAGE AND ASK, LOOK AT REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION, IT SAYS A COPY, ATTACH A COPY OF THE PROPERTY OWNER'S DRIVER'S LICENSE, OR STATE ISSUED PERSONAL IDENTIFICATION CERTIFICATE.

THE ADDRESS LISTED ON THE DRIVER'S LICENSE OR STATE ISSUED PERSONAL IDENTIFICATION CERTIFICATE MUST GO ON TO THE PROPERTY ADDRESS FOR WHICH THE EXEMPTION IS REQUESTED.

THAT'S IN THE APPLICATION FOR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

UM, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION DOES ALLOW, UM, SOME WAIVERS.

IT WILL ALLOW AN ADDRESS WAIVER FOR A RESIDENT OF A FACILITY THAT PROVIDES SERVICES RELATED TO HEALTH, INFIRMITY OR AGING.

UM, IT ALLOWS AN EXEMPTION FOR AN INDIVIDUAL CERTIFIED FOR PARTICIPATION IN A GOVERNMENT AUTHORIZED ADDRESS CONFIDENTIALITY PROGRAM, ACTIVE DUTY OF US ARMED SERVICES MEMBER OR THEIR SPOUSE.

AND A LICENSE ISSUED UNDER TRANSPORTATION CODE SECTIONS MAY OMIT THE RESIDENT ADDRESS AND PROVIDE AN ALTERNATE ADDRESS.

AND THE TWO SECTIONS ARE LISTED ON THIS PRESENTATION, BUT THAT APPLIES TO FEDERAL, STATE JUDGES, US MARSHALS, A US ATTORNEY, UM, THEIR FAMILY MEMBER OR PEACE OFFICERS OR PROSECUTORS.

UM, THEY ACTUALLY CAN USE THE ADDRESS, UM, OF THE COURTHOUSE.

AND IN SOME INSTANCES, LIKE A, FOR LIKE A PROSECUTOR, THEY COULD USE THE ADDRESS OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT INSTEAD OF THEIR HOME ADDRESS ON THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE.

THERE WAS ALSO, UM, A REQUEST THAT STAFF LOOK INTO INCLUDING DIRECTOR'S DISCRETION, UM, TO MAKE EXCEPTIONS TO THE ORDINANCE.

UM, PRIOR, WE DID HAVE A PRIOR MEMBERSHIP ORDINANCE THAT WAS RATIFIED BY COUNSEL IN 1990.

AND THOSE MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS AT THE TIME WAS, IT WAS A ONE STEP UPFRONT VERIFICATION PROCESS, BUT THERE WAS MULTIPLE VERIFICATION THAT WENT ON BEHIND THE ST SCENES THAT STAFF WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR.

UM, BUT IT REQUIRED A D P S DRIVER'S LICENSE OR ID CARD TO PROVE RESIDENCY.

AND IT ALLOWED DIRECTOR'S DISCRETION IN LIGHT OF UNUSUAL AND EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES TO JUSTIFY WHY A RESIDENT DID NOT POSSESS THE REQUIRED IDENTIFICATION.

AND, UM, IF THE DIRECTOR ALLOWED DISCRETION, IT REQUIRED A SWORN STATEMENT OF RESIDENCY.

THE ORDINANCE WAS AMENDED TO THE CURRENT VERSION IN 2003 TO PROVIDE FOR A TWO-STEP VERIFICATION PROCESS AND RESTRICT DIRECTOR'S DISCRETION FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

UM, THERE WAS INCREASING COMPLICATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH VERIFYING RESIDENTS ANTICIPATION OF CHALLENGES TO COME WITH A LARGER VOLUME OF APPLICATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH AA EXPANSION IN THE OUTDOOR POOL.

THERE WAS AN INEFFICIENCY OF THE VERIFICATION PROCESS AND UNRIGHT RELIABILITY IN THE RESULTS.

UM, SO WE WERE FINDING LOTS OF MEMBERS THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY ADDISON RESIDENTS.

THERE WAS A HIGH VOLUME OF INCOMPLETE AND VALID FALSELY REPRESENTED APPLICATIONS, UM, PROVIDE IN, THEY WANTED TO PROVIDE INCREASED ACCURACY IN ESTABLISHING RESIDENCY.

THEY WANTED TO PROVIDE CONSISTENCY IN IMPLEMENTATION, SO EVERYBODY FROM THE DIRECTOR TO THE BRAND NEW HIRE WORKING THE FRONT DESK WOULD MAKE THE SAME DECISIONS AS THEY WENT THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

AND THEY WANTED TO SUPPORT STAFF IN IMPLEMENTATION OF BOARDS ESTABLISHED BY COUNCIL.

UM, I HAVE PAT WHITE HERE BECAUSE I DID NOT WORK FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON DURING THAT TIME.

, UM, BUT WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT PAT WAS HERE.

UM, AND HE HAS WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.

AND SO I ASKED HIM IF HE COULD SPEAK TO SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES AND THE, AND THE RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF WILL BE MAKING REGARDING THIS.

SO, PAT WHITE, UM, THE CHALLENGES THAT WE WERE HAVING AT THE TIME WERE, UM, WE HAD ONE PERSON MEMBERSHIP CLERK DOING ALL THE BEHIND THE SCENES WORK.

UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE GREATEST TECHNOLOGY AT THE TIME EITHER, SO WE WERE STILL LAMINATING CARDS AND TAKING PHOTOS, PICTURES OF, OF RESIDENTS.

UM, WHAT WE FOUND THOUGH, TOO, IS WE HAD NO WAY OF RENEWING MEMBERSHIP.

IT WAS ANNUAL, IT WASN'T ANNUAL, IT WAS CON CONSIDERED LIFETIME AS IT WERE.

UM, THE ONLY WAY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND OUT IF SOMEBODY MOVED OUT IS, WAS THROUGH A WATER UTILITY BILLING.

WATER UTILITY DEPARTMENT WOULD GIVE US MOVE-OUTS OF RESIDENTS AND HOUSEHOLDS, AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO WORK WITH APARTMENT MANAGERS AND GET MOVE-OUTS FROM THEM AS WELL.

AND THEN FROM THAT POINT IN TIME WHEN SOMEONE CHECKED IN, WE WOULD HAVE TO, WE HAD NO SYSTEM THAT COULD TELL US THIS PERSON'S EXPIRED OR THEY'VE MOVED.

UM, AND

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WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND THAT PERSON AND THEN CONFRONT THAT PERSON ASKING IF THEY'VE MOVED.

AND THEN IF THEY HAVE IN ADDISON, ASK THEM TO DO, PROVIDE US NEW INFORMATION, NEW DRIVER'S LICENSE.

UH, IF THEY MOVED OUT OF ADDISON, THEN WE TOLD 'EM THEIR MEMBERSHIP EXPIRED.

SO IT WAS DETECTIVE WORK, IT WAS DETECTIVE WORK, AND IT WAS SLOW DETECTIVE WORK.

I MEAN, WE WOULD MISS AT TIMES FOR YEARS.

RIGHT? AND, AND THIS NEW PROCESS THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2003, UM, LED US TO IT TAKING WEEKS.

WELL, WE, IT WAS WEEKS NORMALLY TO, IT WAS PERSONAL REPLY FOR MEMBERSHIP, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME OF THE BEHIND THE SCENES PROCESSING, WHICH WAS ALSO CONTACT APARTMENTS, VERIFYING THEY LIVE AT THE ADDRESS OR, OR ON THE LEASE AT THAT ADDRESS.

UH, HOUSEHOLDS, IT WAS A WATER UTILITY BILL, OR WE WOULD ASK FOR SOME OTHER FORM AFTER THAT IF THEY WEREN'T ON THE WATER UTILITY BILL, WHICH NOT EVERYBODY IN A FAMILY IS ON YOUR WATER UTILITY BILL.

SO THAT WAS FREQUENT.

UM, THIS PUT EVERYTHING TO THE FOREFRONT WHERE WE HAD ASKED FOR THAT INFORMATION IN ADVANCE.

WE ALSO WERE GETTING NEW SOFTWARE, NEW TECHNOLOGY, SO WE WERE ABLE TO PUT IT OUT A MEMBERSHIP CARD WHEN THAT PERSON PROVIDED US ALL THAT INFORMATION RIGHT THEN AND THERE.

THEY WERE AN ACTIVE MEMBER.

THEY WERE NOT CONTINGENT ON ANYTHING ELSE, NOT WAITING FOR ANYTHING.

AND THEY HAVE THEIR CAR AND THEY WERE COMING IN AND WE HAD NO ISSUES OR HAD LESS ISSUES.

PAT, DO YOU RECALL WHAT KIND OF, UH, VOLUME YOU HAD IN 1990 COMPARED TO 2003? THAT'S A LONG TIME.

SO 1990, NO, I WAS IN COLLEGE.

OKAY.

UM, I GOT THERE IN 95.

VOLUME.

I REALLY CAN'T SAY.

I KNOW IT WAS LESS, I KNOW IT WAS MORE NOW.

SURE, SURE.

WE JUST HAD, WE WERE JUST DEVELOPING, THERE WERE MORE RESIDENTS COMING IN.

WE WERE GETTING BETTER AMENITIES TO BRING IN MORE RESIDENTS, MORE FAMILIES.

UM, AND WE WERE GETTING SOME CHECK TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, NEW SOFTWARE THAT WERE ALLOWING US TO MAKE SOME OF THESE CHANGES AND TRYING TO FIND THE QUICKEST WAY TO GET THEM THEIR MEMBERSHIP, UM, WAS PUTTING THE SECOND, THE NEXT NOTION AND OUR MIXED, UH, PROCESS INTO PLAY, WHICH MADE IT QUICKER, BUT MORE CUSTOMER SERVICE FRIENDLY FOR GROWTH, OTHER THAN TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WERE COMPLYING WITH THE REQUIREMENTS.

WERE YOU FINDING THAT THERE WAS A, UH, EXTRA BURDEN BEING PUT ON EQUIPMENT RESOURCES THERE? UH, WITH, IS THAT, IS THAT THE DRIVING FORCE? I DON'T COMPLAINTS.

I, I DON'T RECALL THIS BEING THE DRIVING FORCE.

I, I DIDN'T KNOW IF PEOPLE THAT WERE USING THE, THE FACILITY WERE, WE WERE JUST, WE'RE DOING LIKE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO NOW.

WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS CONSISTENT AS POSSIBLE.

CORRECT.

SERVING ONLY RESIDENCE.

I'M TRYING TO THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT.

SO COULD HAVE JUST BEEN JUST AS SIMPLE AS TRYING TO ENFORCE THE RULES RIGHT.

AND DO IT CONSISTENTLY.

UM, I THINK I SAID THIS A FEW MINUTES AGO.

SO FROM EVERYBODY FROM PAT TO THE PERSON THAT WE JUST TRAINED THAT'S WORKING THE FRONT DESK, WHEN THEY'RE ACCEPTING A MEMBERSHIP APPLICATION AND THEY'RE APPROVING IT, THEY WOULD MAKE THE SAME DECISION THAT PAT WOULD MAKE.

UM, THAT CONSISTENCY WAS REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES, THE REASON THE DIRECTOR'S DISCRETION WAS EMITTED IN 2003 FROM THAT ORDINANCE, IS IT ALLOWED FOR EXCEPTIONS THAT COUNCIL DEFINED, COUNCIL DEFINED THAT THEY WOULD ALLOW COLLEGE STUDENTS IF THEY PROVED THAT THEY WERE ATTENDING COLLEGE AND THEIR PARENTS LIVED IN ADDISON.

UM, IT ALLOWED THE EXCEPTION THAT IF YOU'RE IN A WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM AND YOU CAN PROVE THAT, AND YOU CAN PROVE THAT YOU LIVE IN ADDISON, THAT WE WOULD ALLOW YOU, UM, THE EXEMPTION OF THE DRIVER'S LICENSE.

SO WHAT WE WOULD ASK, INSTEAD OF HAVING A VERY VAGUE, THE DIRECTOR CAN MAKE DISCRETION.

UM, WE WOULD ASK THAT THERE WOULD BE DEFINED THINGS THAT WE ALL AGREE UPON THAT COULD BE EXCEPTIONS.

AND THAT WAY, EVERYBODY FROM THE DIRECTOR DOWN TO OUR BRAND NEW HIRE, WE ARE ALL CONSISTENTLY MAKING THE SAME DECISION IN DOING THE SAME THING AND TREATING EVERYBODY EQUALLY.

THE BOTTOM LINE THOUGH IS THAT THE SPIRIT OF THE INTENT OF THE POLICY IS THAT ONLY ADDISON'S RESIDENTS WORK OUT IN THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB.

CORRECT.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

UH, SO AS IT STANDS TODAY, HOW MANY ADDISON RESIDENTS WOULD YOU, IN YOUR ESTIMATION, IN YOUR GUESSTIMATION, SAY, ARE UNABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ABSENT ATHLETIC CLUB? BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION? WE GET ABOUT THREE TO FOUR EMAILS A YEAR OF SOMEBODY THAT HAS AN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE.

UM, MAYBE A FEW MORE.

I'M NOT, I WASN'T COUNTING THE ONES THAT WE KIND OF LOOK AT REAL QUICKLY AND ARE LIKE, NO.

LIKE WE HAD SOMEBODY THE OTHER DAY THAT WENT TO THE D P S AND ASKED 'EM TO HA CHANGE THEIR TOWN ON THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE.

AND THE D P S DID IT.

UM, BUT IT WASN'T AN ADDRESS THAT WAS IN ADDISON.

UM, WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN SOME THINGS, I SOUND LIKE A COMMERCIAL, BUT , UM, WE, WE DO GO THROUGH

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AND VET A LOT.

UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE REQUESTS THAT AREN'T VALID.

UM, BUT ONES THAT COULD BE, UM, WHERE WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO JUST FOR VARIOUS REASONS DOESN'T WANNA GET A DRIVER'S LICENSE WITH AN ADDISON ADDRESS, ALTHOUGH THEY DO LIVE HERE, WHETHER PART-TIME OR FULL-TIME, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE PROPERTIES.

I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST COMMON THINGS THAT WE HEAR.

UM, I WOULD SAY THAT'S ABOUT THREE TO FIVE TIMES A YEAR THAT WE GET THAT REPLACE.

SO WHAT TO DO WITH IT? YEAH, THEY DENY, THEY DENY IT FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME PEOPLE PAY TAXES BY USING CERTAIN PROPERTY ADDRESS, SO THEY DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE DRIVER LICENSE TO EDISON DRIVER LICENSE.

WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO IS, BUT HE CAN PROVIDE HIS UTILITY BILLS HIS NAME.

SO WE DENY IT.

AND THE REASON THAT WE DO IS BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF LANDLORDS THAT OWN PROPERTY IN ADDISON, UM, THAT PERHAPS WANT A FREE ATHLETIC CLUB MEMBERSHIP.

UM, AND WE'VE GOTTEN INTO SOME SITUATIONS WHERE THERE, UM, TENANT COMES IN AND ALSO WANTS THAT MEMBERSHIP.

AND SO THERE'S A, A CON A CONFLICT THERE OF WHO REALLY OWNS THE PROPERTY, UM, AND WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO ACCESS THE ATHLETIC CLUB.

WELL, WHEN YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY, I THINK IT'S MORE RELATED TO, UH, WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, RIGHT? WHO'S A RESIDENT SLEEP, SORRY, RESIDES THERE.

RESIDE RESIDES HERE.

SO ONE OF THE, THE REASON THAT I, UH, BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, I KNOW EILEEN WAS GONNA BE BRINGING IT FORWARD, I THINK DARREN AND I DID, IS THERE'S ONE EXCEPTION THAT SEEMS A LITTLE SILLY IN THAT, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE PENALIZING ADDISON RESIDENTS WHO ALSO OWN OTHER HOMES IN OTHER STATES.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THERE MIGHT BE A RESIDENT WHO, UH, A MARRIED COUPLE AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEM HAS A DRIVER'S LICENSE, THE OTHER DOESN'T, THE ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE DRIVER'S LICENSE HERE CAN'T ATTEND.

BUT THAT, BUT THEY, THEY BOTH LIVE HERE.

THEY RESIDE HERE, THEY SLEEP IN THE HOME, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY ARE THE DEFINITION OF AN ADDISON RESIDENT.

AND IT SEEMS KIND OF SILLY THAT THEY, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO TO THE ATHLETIC CLUB IF THEY FIT INTO THE DEFINITION OF WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING ACCESS TO THE ATHLETIC CLUB, WHICH IS ADDISON RESIDENCE.

SO FOLLOWING ONTO YOUR COMMENT, ARE YOU NOT WITH YOUR JOB IS, UH, THE, THE SPIRIT, LIKE YOU SAID, OR THE INTENTION OR THE ESSENCE OF, OF PURPOSES IT, THIS SCENARIO ALSO THE SAME SCENARIO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IF SOMEBODY OWNS A HOUSE HERE, THEY DON'T RENT IT OUT TO ANYBODY ELSE.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

AND THEY LIVE HERE PART OF THE YEAR.

IF THAT CRITERIA COULD BE MET.

THEY, THEY, THEY'RE NOT RENTING IT OUT.

IT'S NOT A RENTAL.

SO YOU HAVE ONE USAGE FROM THAT ADDRESS.

NO, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE SPIRIT THAT I, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A SHAME THAT WE WOULD HA THAT WE HAVE TO PENALIZE ACTUAL ADDISON RESIDENTS.

AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE EXCEPTIONS, I MEAN ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THESE EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO GET INTO THE, AS AN ATHLETIC CLUB ILLEGALLY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THE BIG, THE BIGGER PICTURE, YOU KNOW, AND IT SEEMS LIKE IF THERE'S ONLY THREE TO FIVE, YOU KNOW, EXCEPTIONS THAT WOULD FALL INTO THIS BUCKET IN A YEAR.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT IT WOULD BE SO TAXING TO, TO, TO VET THAT OUT.

I, I, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I NEVER HAD ANY UNTIL RECENTLY.

I NEVER HAD ANYBODY SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE ATHLETIC CLUB.

I'D HAVE TWO WEIRD SITUATIONS SIMILAR.

ONE WHERE SOMEBODY HAS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS, HE HAS A HOUSE IN MINNESOTA.

HE'S GOT A HOUSE HERE.

HE SPENDS HALF THE TIME AT EACH PLACE.

RIGHT? AND IT'S THE SAME DEAL WHERE ONE'S GOT A DRIVER'S LICENSE IN MINNESOTA, THE OTHER ONE'S GOT IT.

TEXAS MM-HMM.

, SO MM-HMM.

.

BUT HE DOESN'T RENT IT OUT.

IT SETS EMPTY WHEN HE IS NOT, WHEN HE IS NOT HERE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

HE ALSO HAD ANOTHER ONE WHERE IT WAS AN ID THING.

I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT WHERE IT WAS SOME KIND OF DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND I WAS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD TO GO DOWN TO THE DMV, NOBODY WANTS TO GO TO D MV TO GET IT IDD.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE.

AND I'M LIKE, WELL, COULD WE NOT JUST THROW IN, THEY HAD A PASSPORT, BUT THAT WASN'T ONE OF OUR THINGS.

CAUSE LIKE, COULD YOU JUST SAY DRIVER'S LICENSE, YOU KNOW, PASSPORT TEXAS ID OR A USIS ISSUED PASSPORT, ONE OF THOSE THREE THINGS.

AND THAT KIND OF TAKES CARE OF THAT OTHER EXCEPTION.

BUT YEAH, THIS, THIS DUAL OWNERSHIP, THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT HERE THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, A SUMMER HOUSE AND THEY GO SOMEPLACE FOR FOUR MONTHS AND THOUGH DURING THAT TIME THEY'RE NOT RESIDING IN, YOU KNOW, SO, AND THEN THERE CAN'T BE MORE THAN A DOZEN OR SO THAT WOULD WANT TO, TO GO TO THE GYM BECAUSE I, WE KNOW OF TWO EXAMPLES RIGHT NOW, NOW THAT, UM, IT GENUINELY SEEMS KIND OF SILLY THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AND TELLING THEM THAT THEY CAN'T GO TO THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB WHEN THEY RESIDE IN ADDISON.

NOW DIFFERENT WHEN, YOU

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KNOW, THERE'S BUSINESS OWNERS AND THERE'S ALL OF THESE E OUTLIER EXAMPLES THAT ARE CLEAR CUT.

SORRY.

IT JUST DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T WORK.

AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW ON THE COLLEGE KIDS SITUATION THAT CAN GET DICEY BECAUSE IT'S SO FLUID, YOU KNOW? SO YOU, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MANAGE THAT A LOT.

BUT FOR ACTUAL RESIDENTS WHO ARE HOMEOWNERS WHO LIVE HERE, RESIDE HERE, THEY JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE ANOTHER RESIDENCE IN FLORIDA OR MINNESOTA.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS A GRAY AREA.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SMARTEST GUY.

IF YOU HAVE TWO HOMES, FOR EXAMPLE, WHY IN CALIFORNIA, ONE IN HERE PER SE, THEN YOU WANT TO PAY TAXES IN CALIFORNIA.

SO YOU DON'T WANT USE TEXAS DRIVER LICENSE.

BY THE WAY, THE TECHNOLOGY TODAY IS SO EASY, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THIS PURPOSE, I'M NOT TEACHING YOU TO DO BAD THINGS.

FOR THIS PURPOSE.

YOU CHANGE CALIFORNIA DRIVER LICENSE JUST FOR TEXAS DRIVER LICENSE AND THEN APPLY FOR THIS, THEN YOU CHANGE IT BACK WORK.

THERE'S LOT OF GRAY AREA, BUT I'M NOT TEACHING YOU DO SOMETHING BAD .

BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE COLLEGE THINGS IS NOT KIDS STUDYING AT LIKE A COLLEGE STATION OR UT AUSTIN THEN BY STATE LAW OR YOU MOVE TO OTHER CITY OR OTHER ADDRESS, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO UPDATE YOUR DRIVER LICENSE WITH THE CURRENT ADDRESS WITHIN 30 DAYS.

AM I RIGHT, JOHN? YOU ARE PLEASED.

SO, SO, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY BACK SEVERAL YEARS BACK, WE UPDATED, SAY IF YOU ARE STUDENT COLLEGE STUDENT, IF YOU ARE UP TO 23 YEARS OLD, SUMMERTIME, WINTERTIME, YOU COME BACK HOME, YOU CAN STAY WITH THE PARENTS, LIVING PARENTS HOME, YOU ARE ABLE TO APPLY FOR IT.

SO WE GRANTED THAT, RIGHT? SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO CHANGE YOUR DRIVER LICENSE.

DON'T GET IT.

ESPECIALLY IF YOU STILL MOVE WITHIN TEXAS.

LEMME GET YOU THIS.

AS LONG AS IT'S STILL VALID, YOU CAN PAY $11 AND A CHANGE ADDRESS YOU RECEIVE WITHIN 10 DAYS.

IT'S NOT, YEAH.

AND IT'S NOT THOSE SITUATIONS.

IT'S THE SITUATION WHERE THERE'S A HUSBAND AND WIFE, ONE THE SPOUSE, OR THERE'S PARTNERS, ONE PARTNER THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS A LICENSE HERE AND ONE PARTNER HAS A LICENSE THERE.

THAT'S ALL IT IS.

THEY'RE BOTH RESIDENTS AND, AND ONE OF 'EM IS NOT ABLE TO GO TO THE GYM.

AND I, I THINK THEY, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO.

YES.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I, I I, I, I CAN'T IMAGINE BEING AN A, YOU KNOW, BEING AN ADDISON HOMEOWNER AND MY SPOUSE, YOU KNOW, IS ABLE TO GO TO THE GYM AND I CAN'T, I CAN LIKE, OKAY, GET, DO SOME SCRATCHES.

LET ASK YOU, DO YOU CHECK A MARRIAGE LICENSE? WE DO NOT VALUE THE HUSBAND AND WIFE .

SO, SO WE DO NOT THAT, THAT IS TOUGH.

WE AIN'T GOING THERE, .

WELL, WE DON'T.

CAUSE OUR MEMBERSHIP IS AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP.

NOW, THE CITY THAT I LIVE IN, MY MEMBERSHIP, I CAN HAVE A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP.

NOW I PAY CONSIDER WILLIAM OUT MORE OF MONEY THAN $10 ONE TIME FOR IT.

UM, BUT IN THAT INSTANCE, ALL IT TAKES IS ME GOING AND FILLING OUT THE APPLICATION, PROVING THAT I LIVE IN THE CITY WHERE I'M APPLYING FOR MEMBERSHIP.

UM, SO WE COULD LOOK AT SOME CHANGES, UM, TO OUR MEMBERSHIP TO CHANGE FROM AN INDIVIDUAL POLICY OR A MEMBERSHIP TO A FAMILY.

UM, THE ONE THING IS, I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD BLANKET SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS BECAUSE I DO THINK I KNOW OF AN INDIVIDUAL, UM, THAT IS NOT MARRIED, UM, BUT HAS AN OCCUPATION THAT MAKES THEM PREFER TO HAVE THE LICENSE AT THEIR OTHER ADDRESS WHERE THEY LIVE, ALTHOUGH THEY LIVE HERE PART-TIME.

UM, SO, SO WHY CAN'T WE JUST DO THE DIRECTOR'S DISCRETION IF SOMEBODY IS, IS LIVING HERE? AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT IT TO BE CONSISTENT ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH THE RANKS OF DIRECTOR, EMPLOYEE, ET CETERA.

BUT MOST OF THIS IS JUST COMMON SENSE.

AND HOW MANY OF THESE ARE YOU GETTING IN THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS, IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE.

IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, HEY, I OWN A BUSINESS HERE.

I DON'T LIVE HERE.

THIS IS ONLY ABOUT RESIDENTS WHO ACTUALLY THEIR BODIES ARE SLEEPING IN A FORM OF HOUSING IN ADDISON.

MM-HMM.

FULL-TIME BECAUSE THEY LIVE HERE OR THEY DON'T RENT IT NOW DON'T HAVE TO DISCRETION.

YEAH, YEAH.

YOU COULD HAVE, RIGHT? THEY DON'T RENT OUT.

SO THIS PRESENTATION WAS TO FACILITATE THAT DISCUSSION.

AND WHAT I'M HEARING FROM COUNSEL, I THINK IT'S UNANIMOUS, UM, OR PRETTY CLOSE TO IT A LITTLE BIT.

UM, IF YOU WOULD, , THIS IS NOT THE KGB YOU WOULD LIKE US, UM, TO COME BACK WITH AN UPDATE

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TO OUR ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW SOME SORT OF WAY AVENUE FOR PEOPLE TO GAIN MEMBERSHIP.

SO LET US DO, UH, SOME MORE DIGGING, UM, DISCUSSION AMONGST OURSELVES.

UH, WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS GET IN A SYSTEM WHERE IT GOES UP THE FOOD CHAIN UNTIL THEY QUIT.

WHEN THEY FINALLY GET THE ANSWER THAT THEY LIKE, UM, IT, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS MEASURABLE.

MM-HMM.

, UM, IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND SO LET PAT AND I LOOK INTO THIS AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH WHAT WE THINK THAT MEASURABLE COMPONENT WOULD BE.

UM, IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE MEMBERS OF THE ATHLETIC CLUB.

WE, WE LOVE THE BUSINESS THAT WE'RE IN AND WE LOVE OUR MEMBERS.

UM, BUT WE FEEL THE NEED TO, UM, BE VERY CONSIDERATE AND THOUGHTFUL OF THE ORDINANCE THAT Y'ALL PUT IN PLACE, BECAUSE THAT'S OUR JOB IS TO, TO DO THAT.

AND WE, AND I, AND WE COMPLETELY APPRECIATE THAT.

THE ONLY REASON THIS CAME ACROSS MY, MY DESK IS BECAUSE OF A SPECIFIC SITUATION THAT I JUST COULDN'T, I JUST, AND I HAVE BEEN, WHEN I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS CAMPAIGNING IN 2017, THE ATHLETIC CLUB DID COME UP SEVERAL TIMES, BUT IT ALMOST ALWAYS WAS, HEY, I HAVE A BUSINESS IN ADDISON, WHY CAN'T I, YOU KNOW, JOIN THE ATHLETIC CLUB? OKAY.

UH, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T RUN INTO SOMETHING THAT WAS, TO ME SEEMED LIKE, OH, THIS IS JUST, IT'S JUST TOO EASY.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS STOP.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF ACCOUNTS, BUT I, I THINK THE ONLY EXCEPTION SHOULD BE THE RESIDENT THAT LI THAT HA OWNS PROPERTY HERE, OWNS A HOUSE HERE HOUSE, AND THEY LIVE HERE PART OF THE YEAR AND THEY DON'T RENT IT OUT.

MM-HMM.

, I THAT I AGREE.

I'M, I'M, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO OPEN IT UP TO SIMPLE.

AND SO, SO WHEN THEY'RE IMPLYING THEY HAVE THE, THE BOX RULES THAT THEY FIT IN THE BOX, AND THEN THIS OTHER RULE IS IF THIS IS A SITUATION, THEN IT GETS, IT GETS, UH, ESCALATED AND, UM, UNIQUE, UH, INVESTIGATE OR SPECIFIC INVESTIGATION.

AND THAT WAY IT WOULD LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF EXCEPTIONS BECAUSE THANK YOU FOR, UM, PROTECTING THE VALUE OF THE CLUB, BY THE WAY, AND, AND FOLLOWING THE RULES.

YOU GUYS ARE REALLY TIGHT THE RULES.

THAT'S GOOD.

YES.

UM, VERY, I APPRECIATE IT.

UH, IT'S JUST, AND I WANNA MAKE IT EASY FOR YOU.

IT SHOULDN'T BE OWNERS.

SO JUST A FEW EXCEPTIONS.

FOUR OR FIVE, LIKE YOU SAID, A YEAR THAT'S NEEDS TO HANDLE.

SO LET US HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS AND COME BACK TO YOU.

OKAY.

WITH A SUGGESTED UPDATE TO THE ORDINANCE, UM, THAT WOULD INCLUDE SOME EXCEPTIONS THAT COULD BE ALLOWED BASED ON THAT CONVERSATION.

YEAH.

DOES THAT SOUND FAIR? AND, AND, AND CAN YOU ADD, PASSPORT IS A FORMAL BITE.

THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT WE DID SOME DIGGING ON THIS CUZ WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT, WELL THIS IS A GOOD ONE TOO.

UM, BUT YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO KEEP YOUR ADDRESS CURRENT FOR YOUR PASSPORT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IF YOU DON'T DRIVE, YOU DON'T NEED IT.

YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE AN ID CARD IF YOU DON'T WANT TO VOTE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO UPDATE THAT EITHER.

I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ID CARD FOR LIKE INSURANCE, HEALTH INSURANCE.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? I THINK MM-HMM.

.

WELL, WE COULDN'T EVEN, I THINK THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT REQUIRE IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE AND I STATE ISSUED IDENTIFICATION CARD FOR MEDICAL, IF, IF YOU WANNA BUY CAR INSURANCE, THEY DEFINITELY CHECK YOUR DRIVER LICENSE BECAUSE THE RATE WILL BE DIFFERENT FROM DIFFERENT COUNTY.

IF YOU LIVE IN EDISON OR YOU LIVE IN CARLTON, THE RATE WILL BE DIFFERENT.

SO THAT MY INSURANCE AGENT I DO KNOW.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

.

SO, UH, MAYBE THAT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.

BUT JENNA SAYS, I TRY TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.

CAN WE SKIP, JUST, JUST GIVE ME, UH, A FEW MINUTES.

LET ME GO THROUGH THAT, UH, ITEM FIRST.

SURE.

CAN WE, LET ME SKIP FINISH.

WE WERE FINISHED.

WE'RE DONE STILL.

THAT'S BILL, HOLLY, AND SKIP TO.

SO WHICH ONE YOU WANT ME TO DO FIRST? I'M SORRY.

MAY I, WE WANNA SEE IF WE COULD DO 15 AND 16 FIRST.

15, 16 FIRST.

YES.

THANKS.

YOU STILL HAVE A 17, 18, SO IT'S ALL APPOINTMENT, BUT, UM, HOW ABOUT THIS? YEAH, LET'S GO TO THE SHADE AREA, THEN WE SKIP UH, BUILD, BUILD.

JUST BUILD WITH IT.

OKAY, LET'S GO WITH THE SHADE AREA, THEN WE'LL GO TO THE PUBLIC AREA.

OKAY.

THE SHADE STRUCTURE IS, SO THE SHADE, I ALREADY SEE YOU VERY INTELLIGENT.

INSTEAD OF FIVE POINTS, USE ALL THOSE THREE GOOD POINTS, YOU KNOW, .

SO IT'S VERY SMART, BUT IT SAVE QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.

BETTER GEOMETRY.

OKAY,

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SO ITEM

[4. Present and Discuss an Addison Athletic Club Shade Structure Update. ]

NUMBER FOUR, UH, PRESENT, DISCUSS THE LETTER CLUB SHADE STRUCTURE.

OKAY.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

BILL HOLLY, DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES.

AND THANKFULLY JANICE SITTING RIGHT HERE CUZ SHE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT MUCH LONGER.

UM, SO THIS IS THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB SHADE STRUCTURE.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.

QUICK, QUICK BACKGROUND APPROVED BY VOTERS IN 2019 TO DO A RENOVATION ON THE PROJECT.

IT WAS DESIGNED, UH, AND THEN BID OUT IN 2020 AND 2021.

ABOUT A YEAR AGO WORK BEGAN.

THE WORK IS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE.

UH, COUNCIL APPROVED SOME ALTERNATES, UH, JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO.

THOSE WILL BE AGAIN THIS WINTER.

BUT WE HAVE ONE ISSUE REMAINING OF THE SHADE STRUCTURE.

AS YOU'LL RECALL, THERE IS PROPOSED TO BE A SHADE STRUCTURE.

ORIGINALLY A FIVE POINT, UM, STRUCTURE THAT PROVIDED SHADE OVER THE KITTY POOL AND A SEATING AREA AS SHOWN.

UM, YOU ALSO MAY RECALL THAT IN FOUR OF THE FIVE HOLES THAT WE DUG TO FOR THE, FOR THE PIERS, WE FOUND THINGS LIKE THIS.

UH, SO WE NEEDED TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SINCE THE, THE EARLIER IN THE PROCESS, UH, SOME PICTURES DURING CONSTRUCTION TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE WERE UP AGAINST AS FAR AS TRYING TO FIND LOCATIONS THAT WOULD NOT CONFLICT WITH EXISTING UTILITIES.

SO IN THIS HOPEFULLY, UH, WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS AN AREA RIGHT IN HERE, UH, THAT SHOULD BE, UH, FREE FOR US TO PUT A, UH, A COLUMN THAT WON'T IMPACT NEGATIVELY THE POOL AND ALLOW US TO HAVE A, A STRUCTURE.

BUT YOU, YOU SEE WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST ON THE PIPING, WANTED TO POINT OUT A A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED, UM, BY COUNCIL LAST TIME OF POSSIBLY JUST MOVING, UH, THE STRUCTURE OUT INTO THIS AREA THAT EXCEEDED THE SPAN.

AND THEN, UH, A CANTILEVER APPROACH WOULD REQUIRE A, A TOTAL REDESIGN OF THE, OF THE COLUMNS, THE POLES, THE, JUST EVERYTHING BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL, UH, DISTANCE, WEIGHT, UH, AND SUCH INVOLVED WITH IT.

SO, UH, GOING INWARD, UH, THERE WAS OUR, OUR, OUR BEST OPTION ON THAT SIDE.

THIS IS THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE, UH, OF THE POOL.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AREA RIGHT HERE OR JUST RIGHT IN THERE, UH, THAT WE THINK WE CAN THREAD THE NEEDLE.

AND WE HAD ENGINEERS OUT.

WE HAD WHAT OF EIGHT, NINE PEOPLE ON SITE THAT DAY.

EVERYBODY PUTTING THEIR HEADS TOGETHER, THE SHADE STRUCTURE, ENGINEERS, CONTRACTORS, OTHER ENGINEERS, UM, EXPERTS IN ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS.

UM, AND WE BELIEVE WE FOUND THE SOLUTION, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU IN A SLIDE OR TWO WHILE WE'RE HERE.

I WANTED TO POINT OUT TOO, UH, WE WERE ASKED ABOUT COULDN'T WE USE THESE, UH, COLUMNS HERE.

THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE DECORATIVE.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE HOLLOW.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT STRUCTURAL IN ANY WAY.

AND YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A SALE.

UH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S HORIZONTAL.

IT IS STILL GONNA CATCH A LOT OF WIND.

AND THAT'S WHY, UH, THESE PIERS ARE 30 INCHES AROUND.

THEY'RE CONCRETE STEEL, FOUR FEET INTO THE GROUND AND JUST HUGE METAL COLUMNS BECAUSE THERE'S A TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF FORCES THAT ARE PUT, THAT ARE PUT ON THIS.

UH, IT'S NOT JUST A LIGHT, YOU KNOW, SHEET, YOU KNOW, ON A CLOTHES LINE.

IT, IT IS A MASSIVE STRUCTURE.

UM, THIS IS LOOKING FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION.

WE NEEDED TO FIND A SPOT IN THIS AREA AS WELL, UH, FOR THE POINT OF THE TRIANGLE.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO, TO LOCATE THAT.

AND AGAIN, WE WERE, WE WERE ASKED BEFORE, COULDN'T WE SOMEHOW ATTACH IT TO THE STRUCTURE? AND IF YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, UH, THE COLUMNS FOR THE SHADE STRUCTURE ARE ACTUALLY LARGER THAN THE COLUMNS.

SO THAT ARE SUPPORTING THAT PORTION OF THE BUILDING.

UH, THAT TELLS YOU THE KIND OF FORCES INVOLVED IN, IN THAT.

AND THEN THIS IS A VENEER WALL.

IT, IT JUST WAS NOT DESIGNED, UH, TO DO THAT.

PLUS, UH, THERE'S A NUMBER OF TREES THAT HAVE BEEN PLANTED AND THEY'RE IN THE WAY, UH, THERE.

SO THOSE WERE DISCUSSED WITH ENGINEERS AND, AND RULED OUT AS, UH, UH, NOT OPTIONS THAT WE SHOULD PURSUE.

SO HERE IS WHAT WE FOUND.

TRIANGLES THE STRONGEST SHAPE IN NATURE.

SO KEEPING, UH, TRYING TO COVER AS MUCH OF THE SAME AREA AS POSSIBLE.

UM, WE HAVE COME UP WITH AN ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION.

IT IS, IT IS A LITTLE TIGHTER.

IT DOESN'T QUITE PROVIDE QUITE AS MUCH SHADE, BUT WE'LL SHOW YOU ON THE NEXT SCREEN.

IT PROVIDES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT MORE SHADE THAN AS THEY ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE PROPOSED, UH, OR ORIGINAL.

AND YOU'LL SEE APPROXIMATE, UM, UH, THE, THESE WILL BE MOVED OVER A, A FOOT OR TWO, EITHER DIRECTIONS.

UM, THIS, UH, A LOT OF FOLKS WORKING ON THIS AND, UH, THIS WAS THE BEST DRAWING WE HAD, BUT IT'LL, IT, IT WILL, IT WILL LOOK AND ACT, UH, VERY MUCH LIKE WHAT YOU SEE HERE.

SO THIS IS NOON WHEN IT OPENS, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, AND IT RUNS FOR ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF HOURS DURING THE DAY.

UM, ALSO JUST NOTE IN THIS AREA, THERE ARE TREES THAT ARE APPROXIMATELY THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE STRUCTURE.

SO THEY WILL PROVIDE SOME MORE SHADE IN THIS AREA.

THEY'RE JUST NOT REFLECTED IN THE, UH, IN THE RENDERING.

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SO YOU SEE THE SHADE MOVES ACROSS AND THEN THE BUILDING SHADE COMES ACROSS.

UM, THERE WILL ALSO BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR LOCALIZED TABLES WITH AN UMBRELLA IN, IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS AS WELL, TO, TO MAKE SURE.

SO A TREMENDOUS IMPROVEMENT OF WHAT, UH, UH, WHAT IS THERE NOW? UH, AGAIN, NOT, NOT QUITE WHAT, UH, WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, BUT PROBABLY 90% OF WHAT WAS PROPOSED.

SO WELL DONE.

YES.

NICE WORK.

SURE, WELL DONE ACTUALLY.

TRIANGLE LOOPIER.

UH, SO THEN WE RAN THROUGH THE COST.

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? SO, UM, IT, IT GETS A LITTLE COMPLICATED ON THE MATH, BUT THE, THE KEY IS, UH, $16,345 AND 92 CENTS TO MAKE THAT WORK.

UM, AND AGAIN, WE, WE HAVE THOSE PICTURES.

WE'RE NOT SURE WHY SOMEBODY WOULD'VE RUN OTHER UTILITIES THROUGH THERE, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING WEIRD, THIS PROJECT HAS HAD IT.

UH, SO WE, UNTIL WE DIG THOSE HOLES, WE DON'T KNOW FOR CERTAINTY, BUT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE AS CLOSE TO CERTAIN AS WE CAN WITHOUT ACTUALLY JUST DIGGING, DIG, DIGGING THE HOLES.

WELL, DID YOU FIND THE PICTURES? UH, PAT DID YOU PAT 'EM FROM THE ORIGINAL, UH, EXPANSION YEAH.

PICTURES THAT WE TOOK, RIGHT? MORE DETECTIVE WORK.

YES.

MUCH .

ALRIGHT, THERE'S THAT TOO.

.

SO OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, UH, WE HAD HIM INDEPENDENTLY LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T DOING ANYTHING WRONG OR CRAZY.

UM, AND YOU RECALL THERE'S THE, THE, THE BOND FUNDS.

THERE WAS SOME CASH FUNDING, UH, THE INTEREST THAT WAS EARNED.

AND THEN YOU'LL RECALL THE CEILING FAN REIMBURSEMENT.

SO THAT BRINGS TOTAL FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THE PROJECT TO 5.349, UH, MILLION.

SO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'LL ASK FOR YOU ON CONSENT IS IF YOU COULD JUST MAKE THAT THE PROJECT, TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET EQUAL THAT AMOUNT OF THE FUNDING, THEN WE CAN GO IN AND DO OUR, OUR, UM, UH, THE CHANGE FOR THIS AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTINGENCY JUST IN CASE WE DO FIND SOMETHING RIGHT.

UH, DOWN IN THERE.

BUT WE'RE, WE'RE WITHIN ALL THE MONEY ORIGINALLY ALLOTTED.

UH, IT'S JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING ALL THE FINANCE RULES.

WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT SO THAT IT'S, IT'S CLEAR.

AND THEN WE CAN PROCEED WITHOUT, WITHOUT IMPINGING UPON OUR ABILITY TO, TO INCREASE THOSE PROJECTS WITHIN, UH, CERTAIN PERCENTAGES WITHOUT SHARE PROOF.

WHAT IS THE MODEST CONTINGENCY AS A PERCENTAGE OR AN AMOUNT? OH NO.

LIKE ONE, YOU KNOW, MODEST ON, ON THE WHOLE PROJECT.

I GOTCHA NOT, YEAH, NO.

UH, YOU'RE TALKING IN THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN CASE LIKE THE, THE SKYLIGHT.

WE NEED TO REPLACE SOMETHING OR THE PAINTING.

THEY NEED TO DO A LITTLE DRYWALL WORK.

UH, AND THEN AS OWNER'S CONTINGENCY, UH, WE, WE SAY, SO WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE CONTRACTORS.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

NO QUESTION.

THANK WE HAVE BILL HERE.

CAN WE ASK YOU A QUESTION ON ITEM 14? THAT'S ITEM 14.

YEAH.

CAN WE ASK QUESTION ON THAT? IT'S RELEVANT OR DO WE WANNA WAIT? DON'T WE SKIP THAT? YOU DO THAT LATER.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GET IT TOO COMPLICATED.

YEAH.

SO, UH, THANK YOU BILL.

YES.

SO LEMME ME SKIP.

THANK YOU, JENNA.

LET ME SKIP TO

[15. Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Approving a Special Use Permit (SUP) for Property Located at 5100 Belt Line Road, Suite #600 that is Currently Zoned Planned Development (PD), Through Ordinance Nos. O12-002 and O20-08, to Allow Indoor Miniature Golf and a Restaurant with the Sale of Alcoholic Beverages for On-Premises Consumption. Case 1864-SUP/5100 Belt Line Road, Suite #600 (Puttshack).]

ITEM 15 FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PRESENT THIS, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON YOUR ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS UP FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5,100 BILL ANGLE, SUITE NUMBER 600 THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD THROUGH AUDIENCE NUMBER 0 1 2 0 0 2 AND 0 2 0 0 8 TO ALLOW IN INDOOR MINI GOLF IN A RESTAURANT WITH THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION.

CASE NUMBER 180 6 4 S U P 5,100 BELINE ROAD, SUITE 600 HOT SHACK.

YES, KEN.

ALRIGHT, THE EVENING, ONCE AGAIN, MARION CITY COUNCIL FRENCH SCHMIDT, DIRECTOR OF DEFENSE SERVICES FOR THE TOWN.

UH, THE REQUEST FOR YOU TONIGHT IS FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, FOR INDOOR ENTERTAINMENT, SPECIFICALLY MINI-GOLF, A RESTAURANT USE, AND THEN ALSO THE SALE OF ALCOHOL FOR ON-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.

UH, THIS REQUEST IS FOR, UH, A LOCATION, UH, AN EXISTING BUILDING, UH, IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OF THE VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF DELLS PARKWAY AND BELTLINE ROAD.

UH, THE FORMER, UH, TENANT SPACE, UH, THAT, UH, OCCUPIED THIS SPACE, UH, WAS THE, THE 24 HOUR FITNESS.

UH, SO WITH THIS REQUEST, UH, THE EXISTING ZONING, UH, EXCUSE ME, LET ME HIDE THIS ZOOM.

UH, THE EXISTING ZONING

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IS, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

UH, SO THAT WAS, UH, INITIALLY UPDATED TO SUPPORT, UH, REINVESTMENT IN VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY BACK IN 2012.

UH, AND THEN, UH, ONCE AGAIN, IN 2020, UH, IT WAS AMENDED TO ACCOUNT FOR A NEW MIXED USES PARKING RATIO AND THEN TO APPROVE A, UH, OFFICE AND RETAIL PROJECT ADJACENT TO WHOLE FOODS AT THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE SITE.

SO TONIGHT, UH, THIS SPECIALTY USE PERMIT IS BEING REQUESTED BY PUTT SHACK.

UH, IT IS A, A NEW CONCEPT, FAIRLY NEW CONCEPT.

UH, IT, UH, BEGAN IN, UH, UH, ENGLAND, UM, AND IT, UH, HAS MIGRATED OVER HERE WITH FOUR EXISTING, UH, LOCATIONS IN MAJOR METRO AREAS, UH, IN THE UNITED STATES.

UH, THEY DO HAVE, UM, NINE ADDITIONAL CONCEPTS TO INCLUDE THIS ONE, UH, IN THE DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE.

UH, SO THIS CONCEPT IS, IS REALLY, UH, IT'S COMING FROM THE FOUNDERS OF TOPGOLF.

SO, UH, ONCE AGAIN, UH, TECHNOLOGY INFUSED, UH, UH, UH, SPORTS CONCEPT, IN THIS CASE, MINIGOLF, UH, THE, UH, TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS FOR ELECTRONIC TRACKING OF THE BALL.

UH, IT'S THEIR TRACKER BALL, UH, TECHNOLOGY.

SO INSTEAD OF HAVING A, UH, THE PAPER SCORE CARD THAT YOU WOULD USE IN A TRADITIONAL MINI-GOLF, UH, COURSE, UH, EVERYTHING'S DONE DIGITALLY AND IT TRACKS YOU, UH, THROUGHOUT, UH, THE PROGRAM OFFERINGS, UH, IN THE, UM, RESTAURANT.

UH, THE OTHER THING THAT, UH, DIFFERENTIATES PUTT SHACK IS ITS ELEVATED DINING EXPERIENCE.

UH, THEY HAVE, UM, A, UM, SUBSTANTIAL CULINARY OFFERING, UH, AND, UH, CHEFS, UH, THAT WILL PROVIDE, UH, UH, NOT YOUR TYPICAL BAR FOOD, OF COURSE.

UH, AND SO, UH, WE DO BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL BE A, A VERY STRONG CONCEPT, UH, TO ADD TO THE MIX AT VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.

UH, SO THE FLOOR PLAN FOR PUTT SHACK, UH, IT WILL, UH, INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY 30,000 SQUARE FEET OF INTERIOR FLOOR AREA.

UH, SOME OF THAT IS, UH, IF YOU'LL SEE IN THE DETAIL VIEW IN THIS SLIDE AS A A MEZZANINE AREA, UH, THAT WILL INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL COURSE AND BAR AREA.

UH, SO WE'LL HAVE FOUR NINE HOLE, UH, MINISTERED GOLF COURSES, SO FOR 36 HOLES.

AND THEN EAT FREE STANDING GAMES WHERE YOU CAN HAVE, UH, A VARIETY OF, UH, GAME OFFERINGS AND A FIXED LOCATION, UH, FREE BAR AREAS AND FREE DINING AREAS, UH, AMPLE SEATING, UH, ACCOMMODATES 430 INDOORS, UH, NO OUTDOOR SEATING.

UH, AND THEN, UH, THEY OF COURSE WILL OFFER, UH, UH, ALCOHOL, UH, FOR SALE FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE.

THE OPERATING HOURS ARE, UM, 11:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY, AND THEN 11 TO TWO, UH, THURSDAY, UH, THROUGH SATURDAY.

UH, SO WITH THIS, UH, REQUEST, UH, WE, UH, UH, OF COURSE ARE APPLYING THE EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.

UH, SINCE THIS IS A REUSE REQUEST, THE, THE PRIMARY CONDITION THAT APPLIES, OF COURSE, IS, UH, PARKING AND LANDSCAPING AND, UH, ANY FACADE STANDARDS.

SO, UH, THEY'RE NOT ADDING, UM, UH, FLOOR AREA HERE.

UH, SO THE, AND THE, UH, OVERALL SITE IS, UH, UH, IN COMPLIANCE AND, AND HAS, UH, ACTUALLY, UH, EXCESS SUPPLY.

UH, THE, THE CHALLENGE WAS VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, OF COURSE, IS ALWAYS THAT THE SUPPLY DOESN'T EXIST WHERE EVERYONE WANTS IT TO EXIST, UH, UH, RIGHT OUTSIDE THE RESTAURANT THEY WANT TO GO TO.

BUT, UH, THE, UM, OVERALL SITE IS ACTUALLY, UH, HAS, UM, ABOUT, UH, 200, UH, PARKING SPACES THAT ARE, UH, IN EXCESS OF WHAT'S REQUIRED CURRENTLY.

UH, ONE THING TO NOTE, UH, WITH THIS PROPOSAL, WE ARE, UH, REQUESTING THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL HANDICAP PARKING SPACES.

UH, THERE CURRENTLY IS SOME, UH, AT THE SOUTHWEST ENTRY, BUT, UH, SINCE THE PRIMARY BUILDING ENTRY IS MOVING TO THE EAST, UH, WE FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, ADDITIONAL HANDICAPPED SPACES, UH, ADJACENT TO THE PRIMARY ENTRY.

UH, SO WITH, UH, LANDSCAPE AREA, UH, THERE IS A SMALL REDUCTION IN OVERALL LANDSCAPE AREA AT JUST OVER 300 SQUARE FEET.

UH, THIS ISN'T DUE TO THEM INCREASING, INCREASING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE, OF THE BUILDING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT, IT'S REALLY TO ACCOMMODATE THE, THE NEW ENTRYWAY, UH, AT THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE.

SO THAT WOULD ELIMINATE, UH, SOME LANDSCAPING AT THE EASTERN FACADE, UH, AND REALLY JUST GROUND COVER TURF, SO NO TREES, UH, REMOVED THERE.

AND THEN AT THE, UH, SOUTHWESTERN, UH, UH, FACADE, THEY'LL BE ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE, UH, AND REPLACING THE SIX, UH, UH, UH, UH, ITALIAN CYPRESS TREES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN

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POOR HEALTH.

UH, SO PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CHANGE TO THE EXTERIOR IS WITH THE FACADE, AND YOU CAN SEE IT WITH THESE RENDERINGS.

UH, THEY'LL BE CHANGING THE, THE COLOR SCHEME, UH, TO, UH, PUTT SHACKS, UH, BRANDING.

AND THEN, UH, THEY'LL BE PROVIDING A NEW ENTRYWAY AT THE, UH, EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

THAT WILL ONCE AGAIN BE THE PRIMARY ENTRYWAY.

AND THEN THEY'LL BE PROVIDING AN OPENING AT THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE BUILDING TO ALLOW FOR MORE OF A RECESS PATIO.

SO A, A LARGER OPENING THAT ALLOWS SOME AIR TO GET THROUGH, BUT, UH, NOT, UH, NECESSARILY A A FULL PROJECTED PATIO.

SO WITH THIS CASE, STAFF DID, UH, NOTIFY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH TOWN AND STATE LAW.

EIGHT NOTICES WERE SENT.

UH, WE DID NOT RECEIVE, UH, ANY FEEDBACK ON THE CASE.

UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT THEIR, UH, NOVEMBER MEETING DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST BY A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO.

UH, THERE WAS, UM, SOME, UM, DISCUSSION ABOUT SITE VISIBILITY, UH, AT THE WESTERN ENTRYWAYS, UH, TO VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, UH, AT THE, UH, UH, UH, DALLAS PARKWAY, UM, UH, FRONTAGE OF THE PROJECT.

UH, WE DID HAVE STAFF, UH, INVESTIGATE, UH, SITE VISIBILITY ISSUES IN THAT AREA.

AND WE ARE GOING TO, UM, WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER ON SOME LANDSCAPE COMPLIANCE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPACTING SITE VISIBILITY.

BUT, UH, OVERALL THE REQUEST IS IN COMPLIANT WITH THE EXISTING P E D AND, AND THIS, UH, CONCEPT WILL BE A REALLY POPULAR AND DYNAMIC CONCEPT, UH, FOR ADDISON AND VI IN VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY.

AND IT SPEAKS TO, ONCE AGAIN, UM, THE CONCEPT LIKE THIS WOULD BE DESIRED IN MANY PLACES, BUT IT COMES TO ADDISON BECAUSE ADDISON IS SUCH A DESIRABLE PLACE TO DO BUSINESS, UH, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT.

UM, WE APPROVE THIS REQUEST, UH, WITH, UH, THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

FIRST BEING THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, DOES NOT USE ANY TERMS OR GRAPHIC DEPICTIONS THAT RELATE TO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AND THE EXTERIOR SIGNAGE.

THE SIX, UH, ITALIAN CYPRESS TREES IN POOR HEALTH ARE REPLACED, UH, WITH SKYROCKET JUNIPER TREES THAT ARE MORE, UH, APPROPRIATE FOR THE NORTH TEXAS CLIMATE.

AND THEN, UH, MINIMUM OF THREE, UH, HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPACES, UH, SHOULD BE PROVIDED DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS, UH, ADJACENT TO THE NEW PRIMARY ENTRYWAY AT THE EASTERN FACADE.

UH, WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM PUT SHACK, UH, BOTH ON THE ZOOM CALL, UH, DOMINIC CRESPO, UH, THEY'RE DIRECTOR OF, UH, CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN, UH, MATT MARTIN, UH, OF THE ADDISON LAW FIRM, UH, IS HERE IN PERSON AS WELL AS A PROJECT MANAGEMENT REPRESENTATIVE FROM ACK.

ALRIGHT, LET ME OPEN UP FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, THEN YOU CAN ASK QUESTION.

LADIES.

GENTLEMEN, THIS ITEM IS LISTED PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE IN PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? PLEASE DO.

SO.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UH, MATT.

YES.

SO, UH, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE IF WE APPROVE THIS, HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE TO, TO BUILD IT BEFORE IT IS, UH, 20 REOPENING, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

SO SOMETIME, YES.

SO YEAH, SO HERE OUR, OUR EXPERTS ARE ON, UH, DOMINIC AND, AND BOB.

UH, WHAT'S THE EXACT PROJECTED OPENING DATE RIGHT NOW? RIGHT.

IF WE, ONCE WE RECEIVE OUR APPROVALS APPROXIMATELY SEVEN MONTHS FOR CONSTRUCTION TIME.

AND THEN ONCE THE SEVEN MONTHS ARE COMPLETE, THEN WE HAVE OUR OPERATIONS TEAM MOVE IN FOR AN ADDITIONAL 28 DAYS OF TRAINING, UH, AND, AND BE ABLE TO OPEN UP.

SO THE GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO OPEN BY END OF 23, 4 OF 2023.

SO BEFORE END OF THE 2023.

ALRIGHT, SO ANYMORE QUESTION FOR THEM? IT LOOKS LIKE A REALLY FUN PLACE.

IT DOES.

WHERE YOU MENTIONED THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, FOUR OTHER LOCATIONS OR, AND DID YOU SAY THAT IN THE DFW AREA? WHERE ARE THOSE NOT IN THE DFW AREA? ELSEWHERE.

ELSEWHERE? OH, OH, CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY THEY'RE LOCATED IN ATLANTA.

UH, CHICAGO JUST RECENTLY OPENED UP IN MIAMI AND BOSTON AND SUNCOM WE'RE CURRENTLY, WE APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO BE AT THE MEETING TODAY.

WE'RE IN ST.

LOUIS RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE TO OPEN THIS VENUE AS WELL.

COOL.

AWESOME.

ANY QUESTION? LOOKS LIKE A GREAT, LOTS OF FUN.

ALRIGHT, GOOD.

ADDITION? NO IN PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

UH, HEREBY CLOSE THE PUBLIC.

HILLARY, DO I HAVE A MOTION? YEAH.

MOVE APPROVAL OF SECOND OF ITEM 15 WITH THE THREE RECOMMENDED STAFF'S CONDITIONS.

ALRIGHT, I HAVE MOTION FONT, TOM BROWN, AND THE SECOND FOR LORI WARD, OR IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOS.

AYE.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU COUNCIL.

THANK YOU KEN AND STAFFERS.

GREAT JOB FOR HANGING OUT.

YOU KNOW WHAT, BEFORE WE HEAR THE LAST SPOKE SESSION, LET GO TO SEE AGAIN.

SO

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CONCERN

[ Consent Agenda All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]

AGENDA FOR ITEM SIX ALL THE WAY TO 14TH.

DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO BE PULLED? DAR YOU WANNA PULL 14? 14 PLEASE? ALL.

DO YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR ALL THE REST? SO MOVED.

SECOND.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, FOR ITEM SIX TO 13, I HAVE MOTION FOR LAWYER REWARD.

SECOND IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOS

[14. Consider Action to Amend the Addison Athletic Club Renovation Project Total Project Budget to $5,349,631. ]

ON THE, UH, CHANGING THE BUDGET, WHAT ALL DOES THAT, IS IT JUST THE SHADE STRUCTURE? OR IS, ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY? SO BY INCREASING THE TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET TO EQUAL THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING AVAILABLE, THANK YOU.

THAT, THAT COVERS E EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE, IT ADDS THE SHADE STRUCTURE AND IT ADDS AN AMOUNT OF CONTINGENCY OWNER'S CONTINGENCY FOR US TO APPLY TO ANY OF THOSE ALTERNATES THAT, THAT WERE ADDED ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AGO.

IN CASE WE RUN INTO A NEED FOR A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA WORK ON ANY OF THOSE.

DOES THAT SATISFY YOU? SO THE REST OF THE DETAIL ON, ON OUR PREVIOUS MEETING IS, IS WHAT MAKES UP THE REST OF IT? YES, SIR.

SO THE, THE $156,000 WORTH OF ALTERNATES THAT WERE DONE, THERE ARE, UM, THE THIRD PARTY THINGS LIKE MATERIALS TESTING, ALL ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT WAS WITHIN THE PROJECT, THE, THE CONTINGENCIES TO DATE, THE ALTERNATES TO DATE, ADDING THE SHADE STRUCTURE AND THEN ADDING, UH, THE, THE REMAINDER DIFFERENT, THE DELTA ON THAT AS AN OWNER'S CONTINGENCY IN CASE WE RUN INTO SOMETHING ON, UH, ON, ON THOSE ALTERNATES THAT HAVE YET TO BE COMPLETED.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY.

YES, SIR.

AND AT TIMES, UH, ON THE 25TH OF, I THINK AUGUST, AND THEN AGAIN AT MAYBE THE 25TH OF OCTOBER, COUNCIL GAVE POSITION AUTHORIZATION TO INCREASE THE TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET.

SO THIS IS JUST DOING THAT ONE MORE TIME.

OKAY.

AND WE THOUGHT LET'S JUST GO ALL THE WAY TO EQUAL THE FUNDING, THEN IF THERE ARE LITTLE THINGS, WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK.

OKAY.

SO THAT, THAT IS PART OF MY QUESTION.

SO HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS THERE THAT WE, FOR THE LITTLE THINGS? AND IS THAT THE CONTINGENCY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? OR, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE CONT CONTINGENCY.

SO THERE, THERE ARE SOME THIRD PARTY TESTINGS, UH, AND THINGS THAT'LL NEED TO BE DONE ON, ON CONCRETE AND OTHER THINGS RELATED TO THE SHADE STRUCTURE THAT, THAT, THAT ACCOMMODATES FUNDING FOR THAT.

UM, THEN IT ALLOWS FOR, AND IT DEPENDS ON THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER.

AND, AND SOME OF THE OTHER INVOICES ARE IN, I WISH I'D PUT A, AN EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT IF, IF I HAD ONE.

BUT THERE'S STILL THINGS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING COMING IN.

WE'VE SET ASIDE, UH, UH, SAY SOMETHING WE THINK IS $3,800.

WE, WE WENT AHEAD AND PUT 5,000 IN THE BUDGET.

SO WE HAVE, WE'RE ALWAYS ON THE, THE SAFETY SIDE, BUT UNTIL WE, UM, GET THOSE INVOICES IN, PAY THEM AND THEN SEE THE REMAINDER, BUT WE'VE ALWAYS ASSUMED IT WAS MORE EXPENSIVE AND ROUNDED UP, UH, ON, ON YET TO BE PAID INVOICES SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT OWNER'S, WE WOULD JUST PAD THE OWNER'S CONTINGENCY AND HOPE THAT WE DIDN'T NEED THAT.

AND THEN THAT WOULD JUST FOLD BACK INTO THE, THE, UM, THE SPA FUNDS.

WELL, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER APPROVAL BEFORE YOU SPEND ANY CONTAGIOUS YES.

THE RAISE LEVEL OF COMFORT.

YEAH.

AND, AND THERE'S, UH, YOU MAY RECALL FROM THE OCTOBER 25TH YOU APPROVED THE CHANGE ORDER.

THERE'S THE MANY, MANY FORMS. THE ARCHITECT SIGNS OFF, THE CONTRACTOR SIGNS OFF, PURCHASING SIGNS OFF, EVERYBODY SIGNS OFF ON THOSE THINGS BEFORE THEY WERE GONE.

BUT WHAT THIS ALLOWS US TO DO IS, IS SAY, TRUST US WITH, WITH THE MONEY THAT'S ALLOCATED, AND WE WILL GO THROUGH THE FORMAL PROCESS.

WE JUST WON'T HAVE TO WAIT A MONTH, COME BACK AND GO THROUGH THIS EVERY TIME WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE DRYWALL TOUCH UP.

AND IN THE END, YOU'RE GONNA END UP GIVING US A FINAL ACCOUNTING THING HERE.

HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE.

AND THIS ONE, BACK TO THE BOND FUND.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR THAT.

YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVED ITEM 14.

ITEM 14, SECOND MOTION FROM DARREN GARNER.

AND SECOND FUNDS IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS.

ITEM 14, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

UH, LET'S GO TO 16, 17, 18.

SO REAL QUICKLY, THANK YOU.

ITEM

[16. Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on a Resolution Appointing Three (3) Citizens to Serve on the Planning & Zoning Commission for Two-Year Terms Commencing January 1, 2023 and Providing an Effective Date.]

16, PRE PRESENT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION.

APPOINTING THREE CITIZEN TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TWO YEAR TERMS, COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2023, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVENESS.

UH, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, UH, THE NOTICES WERE, UH, POSTED IN A NEWSLETTER STATING THAT WE HAD OPENINGS.

UM, THE, THE OPENING, THE DEADLINE, UH,

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FOR THE APPLICATIONS WAS NOVEMBER 30TH.

UH, UH, LIST IS PROVIDED AT THE DS FOR YOU, UH, TO SEE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE APPLIED AND THE APPLICATIONS.

UH, AFTER REVIEW, COUNCIL MEMBER GARDNER, QUINAN, AND RESNIK ARE MAKING APPOINTMENTS.

SO, DARREN, I'D LIKE TO REAPPOINT, UH, DENISE FASSLER TO PLANNING AND ZONING.

ALRIGHT, UH, AING, I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT ZACH FARK.

Z A C H F A I R C L O T H, RIGHT? CORRECT.

NIA? UH, MARY, I'D LIKE TO RENOMINATE, UH, NANCY CRAIG.

SO I HAVE KAREN GARNER.

WE APPOINT DENNIS FESSLER.

NICK NIC APPOINT ZACH FAIRCLOTH, AND THEN QUINAN REAPP APPOINT NANCY, CORRECT.

AND ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSE.

ALRIGHT.

ITEM

[17. Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on a Resolution Appointing Three (3) Members to Serve on the Board of Zoning Adjustment (BZA) for Two-Years Commencing January 1, 2023 and Providing an Effective Date.]

17, PRESENT DISCUSSION AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION.

APPOINTING THREE MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT, PZA FOR TWO YEAR COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2023, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

YES, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

THIS WAS, UH, THE SAME TYPE OF SITUATION.

ALL THE STANDING COMMITTEES AND COMMIT, UH, BOARDS WERE NOTIFIED IF THEIR TIME, UH, THEIR TIME IS EXPIRED ON THAT BOARD.

EVERY ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS IN, UH, IN THIS, ON THIS BOARD HAS REQUESTED REAPPOINTMENT, UH, PLACE.

ONE IS, UH, COUNCILMAN GARDNER.

TWO IS ILLA, AND THREE IS RESNICK.

ALL RIGHT, DYLAN.

I'D LIKE TO REPOINT LARRY BROWN FOR BORDER ZONING.

UH, LENE, I WOULD LIKE TO REAPPOINT JIMMY NEMAN, GQ MAYOR, I WANT TO THANK ALL THE, THOSE WHO'VE, UH, STEPPED UP TO WORK ON THE B C A.

UH, THEY THINK YOU GOOD WORK AND THE TOWN.

I'M PROUD OF THEM.

AND I'D LIKE TO, UH, RENOMINATE DAN LI DAN.

ALRIGHT.

RIGHT.

LET ME REPEAT IT BACK.

OKAY.

DARREN GARNER REAPP APPOINTED LARRY BROCK REK REAPP APPOINTED JIM AND EMAN, THEN REAPP APPOINTED TO BZA.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? AYE.

ITEM

[18. Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on a Resolution Appointing Three (3) Members to Serve on the Community Partners Bureau for a Two-Year Terms Commencing January 1, 2023 and Providing an Effective Date.]

18, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON RESOLUTION.

APPOINTING THREE MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE COMMUNITY BONDERS BUREAU FOR A TWO YEAR TERMS COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2023, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MAYOR COUNSEL IRMA PARKER, CITY SECRETARY, AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER STANDING BOARD AND COMMISSION.

UH, COUNSEL DOES NOT HAVE A SPECIFICS PLACE WHERE THEY'RE APPOINTING INDIVIDUALS.

THIS IS DONE BY THE ORGANIZATION AND IT'S USUALLY A JOINT AGREEMENT AS TO WHO'S GONNA BE APPOINTED THESE SPOTS OPEN FOR THIS AT THIS TIME IS PLACE TWO FOR THE FAMILY.

PLACE, PLACE THREE FOR METROCREST SERVICES AND PLACE FIVE FOR METRO CARE SERVICES COUNCIL DECISION.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION OR ANY REVISION? I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE, UH, CATHERINE ERICKSON FOR THE FAMILY PLACE.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE FRAN POWELL TO CONTINUE IN HER POSITION WITH METROCREST SERVICES.

APPOINT METRO CARE SERVICES, METROCREST SERVICES.

I KNOW, I KNOW.

WE HAVE A NURSING.

OKAY.

I WASN'T PREPARED TO MAKE A A, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR, FOR THIS ONE.

OH, MINE WAS .

I'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

KATIE MILLER.

AND I WOULD SAY KATIE MILLER.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SECOND THAT CHOICE.

PLACE FIVE, SIR.

ALRIGHT, LET ME REPEAT, YOU KNOW, FOR FAMILY CARE PLACE FOR FAMILY PLACE, DARREN GARNER APPOINTED CATHERINE ERICKSON FOR METRO CARE SERVICES.

NIK

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APPOINTED FRIEND POWER, THEN FOR METRO CARE SERVICES, THEN TOM BROWN APPOINTED KATIE MILLER.

SO, SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? ALL MOTION.

A MOTION.

SO DARREN GARNER MADE A MOTION AND CATHERINE WITHER SECONDED.

ALL IN FAVOR? TO APPROVE THIS THREE APPOINTMENTS, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

AYE.

I.

HI, OPPOS.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

NOW I GO BACK TO WORK

[5. Present and Discuss the Town of Addison's Legislative Priorities for the 88th Legislative Session. ]

SESSION ITEM FIVE.

PRESENT.

DISCUSS THE TIME OF ADDISON'S LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY FOR THE 88 LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

BILL HOLLY, DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES.

BEAR WITH ME FOR JUST A MOMENT.

I'LL GET THIS UP RIGHT.

SO THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE MEETS EVERY OTHER YEAR FOR 140 DAYS.

IT'S A TWO YEAR CYCLE.

DURING THAT TIME, THEY INTRODUCE ABOUT 7,000 BUSINESS IN A, IN A TYPICAL SESSION.

THE, THE DIFFICULTY THERE ARISES IN THAT THERE'S MANY VERSIONS OF THOSE BILLS.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FROM COUNSEL, UH, AS WE'VE DONE THE LAST FIVE SESSIONS, IS FOR YOU TO GIVE STAFF GUIDANCE IN ADVANCE.

SO WHEN WE HAVE A RAPIDLY EMERGING ITEM, UH, SAY A REPRESENTATIVE CALLS US FROM THE HOUSE FLOOR AND SOMEBODY'S PROPOSING AMENDMENT STAFF HAS THE ABILITY TO, TO COMMENT, UH, ON, ON COUNCIL POLICY, FOLLOW, FOLLOW YOUR DIRECTION IN YOUR GUIDANCE REGARDING, UH, THE MANY THINGS THAT MAY COME UP DURING, UH, A TYPICAL SESSION.

AND, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL GET INTO MORE DETAILS OF THAT, THAT SPECIFIC PROPOSED RESOLUTION IN A, IN A MOMENT.

BUT WE, WHAT, WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IS, IS LOOK FOR WHETHER YOU SUPPORT CERTAIN THINGS OR OPPOSE CERTAIN THINGS AND, AND ON KEY LEGISLATIVE TOPICS.

UM, AND THEN AGAIN, WE, WE COMMUNICATE THAT WITH THE, THE LEGISLATURES DOWN IN, DOWN IN AUSTIN OR THEIR STAFF.

SO, THE SESSION OUTLOOK ON, UM, OCTOBER 8TH, WE HAD AN ELECTION.

GOVERNOR ABBOTT WAS REELECTED.

LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR DAN PATRICK WAS REELECTED CURRENT SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, UH, FALLEN WAS ELECTED.

NOW THE HOUSE STILL NEEDS TO ACTUALLY SELECT, UH, THE SPEAKER FOR NEXT TIME.

IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THAT BAILON WILL, UH, REMAIN.

BUT THERE IS A, THERE IS A CHALLENGER AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN INTERNAL, UH, STRUGGLE.

BUT, UH, REGARDLESS, WE ANTICIPATE, UH, TOPICS BECAUSE THE, THE REPUBLICANS HELD THE MAJORITY THAT THEY'LL CONTINUE THE AGENDA THAT THEY HAVE, UH, BEEN WORKING TOWARDS THE LAST, UH, FOUR SESSIONS OR SO, WHICH, UH, AT TIMES, UM, IMPACTS LOCAL CONTROL, IMPACTS LOCAL, UH, CONTROL OVER PROPERTY TAX DECISIONS, UH, APPRAISAL DECISIONS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, AND IMPACTS, UH, LOCAL DEBT, THE ABILITY TO ISSUE LOCAL DEBT, UH, DEBT, UH, WITHOUT JUMPING THROUGH ADDITIONAL HURDLES.

UM, THEY PUT SOME LIMITATIONS ON, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND, UH, THEY'VE ATTEMPTED ON OCCASIONS TO PROHIBIT MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS FROM COMMUNICATING EFFECTIVELY WITH, WITH LEGISLATURES THROUGH, UH, PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS AND THE LIKE.

SO WE JUST WANT TO, UM, AGAIN, GET YOUR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS ON THOSE SO THAT IF THOSE TYPES OF BILLS COME UP DURING THIS SESSION, WE CAN, UH, WE CAN SPEAK EFFECTIVELY, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO IN THE PACKET, IT'S A DRAFT RESOLUTION.

IT LOOKS VERY MUCH LIKE LAST TIME AGAIN BECAUSE THE, THE ISSUES REMAIN.

UH, IT'S, IT'S BEEN UPDATED AT A, AT, AT A MODEST LEVEL.

BUT THE, THE KEY THINGS, UH, ARE RETAINED AND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID LEGISLATION THAT OPPOSES MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE CLOSEST TO THE VOTERS.

YOU'RE RIGHT HERE.

THEY SEE YOU EVERY DAY.

UM, WE THINK Y'ALL KNOW BEST COMPARED TO SOMEBODY HUNDREDS OF MILES AWAY IN AUSTIN TRYING TO DO A ONE SIZE FITS ALL FOR THE WHOLE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO, UH, THAT'S, UH, CONCEPTUALLY IN MIND, UH, AGAIN, LET, LET US DECIDE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND, UM, THEY CAN FOCUS ON SOME MORE STATEWIDE, UH, TOPICS.

UM, THERE WAS LEGISLATION THAT PROPOSED LOCAL OFFICIALS WOULD NEED TO DECLARE PARTY AFFILIATION.

AND, UH, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, POTHOLES AREN'T REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS, THEY'RE JUST POTHOLE.

AND WE TRY TO SEPARATE SOME OF THAT, THAT, THAT OTHER POLITICS OUT OF IT AND JUST FOCUS ON WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND OPPOSE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD IN ANY WAY IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO, UH, COMMUNICATE WITH LEGISLATURES.

COUPLE EXAMPLES ON THAT.

LIKE WHEN WE HAD WINTER STORM URI, UH, TWO YEARS AGO, UH, THE TOWN IS A MEMBER WITH 180 OTHER CITIES AND A STEERING COMMITTEE, UM, UH, RELATED TO UTILITY ISSUES ACROSS THE STATE.

SO THAT THAT ATTORNEY WHO'S THE LEAD FOR THAT, UH, HAD HAD ALMOST IMMEDIATE ACCESS AND INPUT WITH THE, WITH THE GOVERNOR ON THAT TOPIC, REPRESENTING CITIES WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE TROUBLE EVEN GETTING, YOU KNOW, GETTING DOWN THERE, UH,

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LET ALONE GETTING AN AUDIENCE AND TALKING TO THEM ABOUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT, UM, UH, DURING A, DURING AN EMERGENT EVENT LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE FOLKS, UH, DOWN THERE.

IT'S A VERY MODEST COST.

IT'S LIKE $900 A YEAR FOR US TO BE PART OF THAT GROUP.

AND, AND WE GET THE BENEFIT, UH, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF TIMES OVER ON, ON ALL THOSE UTILITY ISSUES.

SO SOME LEGISLATION OPPOSED PREVIOUSLY WOULD, WOULD PREEMPT OUR PARTICIPATING IN, IN, UH, COALITIONS LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, AGAIN, THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR SOME IMPACT.

WE, WE WERE CAPTIVE 3.5% A FEW YEARS AGO.

SO, AGAIN, CHANGES CHANGES TO THE, UH, CAPS, REVENUE CAPS OR, OR JUST THE APPRAISAL PROCESS OR OUR, OUR ABILITY TO, TO ISSUE DEBT WHEN, UH, WHEN IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.

WE'RE AAA BOND RATED, UH, COMMUNITY.

WE GOT OUTSTANDING, UH, BIDS FROM, FROM PEOPLE ON OUR DEBT.

UH, AND THE STATE MAY IMPOSE THINGS, UH, ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS ON US, WHICH WOULD JUST END UP COSTING, COSTING US ADDITIONAL, UH, TIME AND MONEY.

WE WOULDN'T BE AS NIMBLE OR AS QUICK.

SO, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE, THE STATE I THINK DOES A GREAT JOB OF BRINGING FOLKS IN FROM, FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND ALL OVER THE WORLD.

BUT THERE ARE SOME ATTEMPTS TO, TO RESTRICT, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT LOCAL LEVEL.

AND, UH, WE JUST WANNA BE MINDFUL OF THAT SO THAT AGAIN, WE CAN, WE CAN RESPOND AND INTERACT AND DO WHAT'S BEST TO, TO BRING FOLKS, NOT JUST TO TEXAS, BUT BRING FOLKS TO, TO ADDISON WHEN, WHEN THAT MAKES SENSE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

CAN CAN I JUST GO OVER THE TOP OF THAT ONE JUST REAL QUICK? SURE.

UM, WITH REGARDS TO THAT, THAT'S, UH, KIND OF A HOT BUTTON TOPIC.

UM, IN TERMS OF, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATION AROUND, UH, CHANGING THE CHAPTER THREE 80, UM, LANGUAGE OR DOING AWAY WITH IT AND, AND A LOT OF THAT.

UH, SO THAT'S THAT TO MY MIND.

UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY FOR MUNICIPALITIES.

BE ABLE TO HAVE AS MANY TOOLS IN OUR, IN OUR BRIEFCASE AS WE CAN POSSIBLY HAVE, AND ANY MOVEMENT, UH, TO REDUCE THOSE TOOLS.

I AM, UM, I'M OKAY WITH, YOU KNOW, MODIFYING LANGUAGE THAT WOULD, UH, PRECLUDE, YOU KNOW, OR PREVENT CITIES FROM TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SUCH TOOLS AND, AND BY USING THEM IN WAYS THAT MAYBE, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'RE EXTENDING 'EM OUT FOR TOO LONG OR, OR, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN NUANCES ABOUT THEM.

BUT I'M, I'M ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO TAKING THOSE TOOLS AWAY, UH, BECAUSE WE NEED THOSE TO ENSURE A VIBRANT COMMUNITY, VIBRANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER THE TOP OF THAT ONE.

THEY, THEY WERE VERY RECEPTIVE IN THE LAST SESSION CUZ THEY'RE, THERE WAS, UH, ATTEMPTS TO, TO, TO REALLY SCALE THAT BACK.

AND, UM, WHAT, WHAT WAS SETTLED WAS BEING MORE TRANSPARENT BECAUSE SOME ENTITIES ARE NOT VERY TRANSPARENT AT ALL.

MM-HMM.

, UH, ON THEIR AGREEMENTS, OUR AGREEMENTS COME THROUGH, UH, THEIR, THEIR ATTACKS, THEY'RE OPEN.

UM, THE, SOME OF THE LEGISLATION HAD ASKED FOR MUCH LONGER, LIKE 60 DAY COMMUNICATION PERIODS.

WELL IF, IF WE PUT OURS OUT THERE 60 DAYS IN ADVANCE, WELL THEN NEW YORK IS, IS GONNA SEE IT AND, AND COUNTER OFFER AND, AND BEAT US.

SO THERE, THERE HAS TO BE A BALANCE, RIGHT, WHERE WE'RE TRANSPARENT, BUT WE'RE NOT TIPPING OUR HANDS ON WHAT WE'RE DOING AND, AND SUCH.

SO IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING TOPIC AND HOPEFULLY, WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP THEIR HANDS OFF TO THREE 80.

WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S TRANSPARENT.

WE HAVE TO PUT THINGS ON THE COMPTROLLER'S WEBSITE.

THIS TOWN HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO SOLVE OTHER PROBLEMS AND WE'RE GETTING CAUGHT UP IN, IN THOSE DIFFICULTIES, UH, BAD BAD ACTORS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE, UH, ARE, ARE CAUSING UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR US.

AND ONE OF THOSE IS, IS THE NEXT ONE, SALES TAX.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF HIGH PROFILE COMMUNITIES, UM, UH, ONE WHERE, UH, DALE'S WAREHOUSE, WHERE THEY SHIP ALL THEIR COMPUTERS FROM THAT COMMUNITY GETS TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SALES TAX.

AND, UM, THE LOCAL LEGISLATOR, UH, WAS, WAS UNHAPPY THAT THEIR TAX DOLLARS WERE, WERE WERE GOING AWAY.

SO, UM, BUT THE FLIP SIDE IS, UM, ADDISON HAS A FOCUS ON RETAIL AND, AND SOME OTHER LARGE, UM, UH, FOLKS THAT SELL A A LOT OF ITEMS. AND IF WE SHIFTED FROM THE, SHIFTED THE ORIGIN FROM, FROM THERE TO WHERE IT WAS SHIPPED TO, UH, THE TOWN WOULD BE OUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO IT, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT IS UH, UH, IT MAKES SENSE ON SOME LEVELS, BUT THEN WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT THE IMPACT AND HOW CERTAIN COMMUNITIES HAVE DEVELOPED THEIR, THEIR LOCAL ECONOMY AND THEIR STRUCTURE AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THEY PAID FOR, AND NOW TO SUDDENLY SEND ALL THE SALES TAX, YOU WORKED HARD TO ATTRACT HERE TO, TO OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE BECAUSE ONE PERSON DIDN'T LIKE THAT DELL GOT, YOU KNOW, A, A REFUND ON THEIR SALES TAXES

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IS, UH, UH, SO IT'S AN INTERESTING, AGAIN, INTERESTING CONVERSATION AND UH, WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE.

LET, BUT IT'S, IT'S GONNA COME UP AGAIN THIS, THIS SESSION FOR SURE.

YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT ORIGINATION AND DESTINATION, WE'RE NOT A WAREHOUSE CITY, RIGHT? IF FOR THOSE WAREHOUSE CITY, PROBABLY THEY LIKE DESTINATION.

SO WE ARE RESTAURANT RETAIL, SO WE LIKE TO RECEIVE SALES TAX OURSELVES INSTEAD OF PEOPLE ONLINE.

SO THEY SHIP IT OUT FROM THE WAREHOUSE, THEN THAT'S JUST WAREHOUSE, SHIP IT OUT TO WHOEVER RECEIVING IT.

SO WE DON'T WANT THAT.

SO THE OTHER THINGS, WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH JUDY JOHNSON, THE STILL REPRESENTATIVE IN OUR AREA YESTERDAY MORNING WITH THE HAM BILL.

WE ASKED HER SUPPORT US TODAY, WE WERE AT THE METRO, UH, CLASS MAYOR ASSOCIATION.

THEY INVITED NATHAN JOHNSON, STATE SENATOR MM-HMM.

AND THEN HOUSE REPRESENTATIVE .

SO WE ASKED THEM DO A FEW THINGS.

ONE IS, UH, TALK ABOUT, YOU REMEMBER IN THE, UH, METRO, UH, QUESTION CHAMBERS MAY FOR WE TALK ABOUT, WE GET ONE QUARTER PERCENT BACK FROM, FROM THE STATE TO FUND OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE 44 B TAX.

SO THEN WE GIVE 1 CENT TO DART.

SO WE LIKE TO GET OUR ONE QUARTER SET BACK MM-HMM.

TO USE THAT.

IT COSTS ABOUT $3 MILLION IF YOU CLICK.

SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN USE THAT MONEY.

SO WHAT I PROPOSE IS WE GET ALL THE CERTAIN MEMBER CITY, OTHER 12 MEMBER CITIES, CITY MANAGERS AND MAYORS GET TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME IN JANUARY MM-HMM.

OR FEBRUARY.

THEN WE TALK ABOUT IT, GET THE, THE SUPPORT.

SO WE PROPOSE THIS BILL AND WE CAN GET THAT BACK.

THE OTHER THING IS WE WANT THEM TO SUPPORT US FOR EVERYTHING.

THE STATE ALWAYS TRY TO RESTRICT OUR ABILITY TO RAISE TAXES, RIGHT? SO THEY REDUCE THE REVENUE GAP FROM 8% DOWN TO THREE AND A HALF PERCENT MANY YEARS BACK.

SO WE WANT THEM NOT TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT TO TIE OUR LACK AND OPS.

SO THE FREEDOM OF LOCAL CITY, LOCAL CONTROL.

THEN ALSO THE, UH, REMEMBER WE TALK ABOUT THE, UH, BUILDERS REQ THE REQUIREMENTS.

SO YEAH.

24, 39.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S, SO THEY, UH, THIS, THEY WANNA TAKE AWAY OUR ABILITY TO REQUIRE THEM TO DO CERTAIN QUALITY OF MATERIALS THEY ALREADY HAVE.

THEY DID THAT IN 2019.

RIGHT.

BUT LUCKILY OUR DEVELOPERS ALWAYS WORK TOGETHER WITH CORRECT.

SO, SO FAR WE HAVEN'T GOT AN IMPACT FROM THAT.

SO SINCE GOD CONTINUES YES, SIR.

SO THAT, THAT SEGUES RIGHT IN INTO THE NEXT ONE, AGAIN, WITH, AT, AT THE LOCAL LEVEL WE'RE, WE HAVE HIGH STANDARDS, WE'D LIKE TO, UM, MAINTAIN THOSE, UH, WITHOUT, UH, HAVING THE STATE IMPOSE, UH, LESSER RESTRICTIONS OR, OR LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO REQUIRE CERTAIN TYPES OF, OF, OF QUALITY MATERIALS AND THINGS IN OUR DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN LASTLY, TRANSPORTATION, OBVIOUSLY, UH, MOBILITY IS, IS IMPORTANT AND THE STATE DOES A NUMBER OF THINGS.

DOES THAT, DOES THAT VERY WELL AT, AT, AT TIMES.

AND WE WANTED TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR THEM.

AND THEN HOPEFULLY THAT, THAT, UM, IMPROVES MOBILITY IN, IN OUR, IN OUR REGION.

PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF MONEY THAT COMES DIRECTLY TO THE, TO THE CITY, UH, FROM THE STATE.

BUT IF THEY'RE SUPPORTING HIGHWAYS AND RAIL AND AIRPORTS AND, AND THINGS, THEN, THEN WE'RE ALL BETTER OFF CAUSE OF THAT INCREASED MOBILITY.

SO WITH THAT, UM, I KNOW THAT'S A LENGTHY, UH, ATTACHMENT TO THE, TO THE RESOLUTION, BUT WAS, WAS THERE ANYTHING ON THERE THAT Y'ALL FELT SHOULD BE OF, OF A CONCERN THAT YOU'D LIKE IT REMOVED? I DIDN'T SEE ONE, NOTHING TO REMOVE, BUT IT PROBABLY ADDED THE ONE I TALK ABOUT.

ONE QUARTER CENT.

OKAY.

QUARTER CENT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I, AND I, I SERVE ON THE, ON THE, I'M AT A, UH, AFFILIATE BOARD MEMBER ON THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

AND I, UM, WE HAVE LEGISLATIVE UPDATES AND I'D LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS NEW LEGISLATION THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT PROPOSING.

OKAY.

SO THAT I CAN BRING IT UP AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

OKAY.

BUT NOW I THINK YOU'VE GOT EVERYTHING HERE.

THAT'S, THAT WE, WE TRIED TO MAKE IT, UH, DEFINED ENOUGH, BUT BROAD ENOUGH CUZ WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'LL WHAT'LL POP UP DOWN THERE.

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YEAH.

THE MAIN THING IS, YOU KNOW, LOCAL CONTROL, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING LEGISLATION THAT SUPPORTS IT IN OPPOSING LEGISLATION THAT, UM, UH, ROADS THE, ALTHOUGH IT CAN BE AN UPHILL BATTLE, UH, BUT YEAH.

OR, OR RULE.

YEAH.

THE, UH, THE INTENT IS THIS, THIS WILL BE ON THE JANUARY 10TH, UH, MEETING AND CONSENT WITH, UM, THE, THE ADDITION THE, THE MAYOR HAS ASKED AND EVERYTHING ELSE REMAINING THE SAME.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU.

THANK NOTHING ELSE.

MEETING AJOUR.