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[1. Call Meeting to Order]
CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE ASSET PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION TO ORDER IS TO FEBRUARY 15TH, 6:00 PM AND TREEHOUSE.AS WE DID EVERY MEET AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH MEETING, WOULD YOU ALL STAY IN PLACE? AND DO YOU WANT ME TO PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES.
IS THAT YOUR FULL HOUSE? THIS IS MY FIRST MEETING IS ELECTED CHAIR IN Z.
I APPRECIATE ALL Y'ALL SUPPORT.
THIS IS THE WAY IT IS EVERYTHING.
THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS OUR
[ Consent Agenda: All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the Planning and Zoning Commission and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]
CONSENT AGENDA.WE HAVE ONE ITEM UNDER CONSENT AGENDA HAS A MINUTES.
IT WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE WORK SESSION THAT YOU WILL INCLUDE IN THE REVISED MINUTES.
OTHER THAN THAT, IF WE COULD HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED, INDICATE BY MAY AND EXTENSIONS.
[2. Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on a Preliminary Plat for Vitruvian Park Addition, Block C, Lot 1 for a Multifamily Development on 5.1 Acres Located at the Southeast Corner of Spring Valley Road and Vitruvian Way and North of Bella Lane. Case PP2021-01/Vitruvian Park Addition, Block C. ]
ITEM OF BUSINESS, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR VITRUVIAN PARK EDITION BLOCK C BLOCK ONE FOR A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON 5.1 ACRES LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SPRING VALLEY ROAD.RETRUDING WAY AND NORTH OF BELLA LANE.
THIS IS CASE PP 2 0 2 1 DASH ZERO ONE SLASH FOR TRILLIUM PARK ADDITION, BLOCK C KEN MS. STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.
COMMISSIONERS KEN SCHMIDT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON CROSS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT, UH, FOR A 5.1 ACRE TRACT LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SPRING VALLEY LANE AND THE TRUE ME AND WAY AND NORTH OF BELLA LANE.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS PLANET IS TO FACILITATE A CIVIL DESIGNER VIEW DREW THIS CONCEPTUAL PRELIMINARY PLAT, UH, FOR A RECENTLY APPROVED A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT COMPRISED OF 85 RENTAL TOWNHOME UNITS.
UH, SO WITH THIS PLAT, UH, THE APPLICANT IS REFLECTING, UH, NEEDED, UH, EASEMENTS REQUIRED FOR ACCESS BOTH FOR PUBLIC ACCESS IN THE FORM OF TRAIL EASEMENTS.
UH, AND THEN ALSO, UH, FIRELINE EASEMENTS TO ALLOW FOR EMERGENCY SERVICE ACCESS.
AND THEN ALSO A RANGE OF UTILITY EASEMENTS TO ACCOUNT FOR, UH, NEEDED UTILITIES, BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE THAT WILL BE NEEDED TO SERVE THE SITE.
UH, WITH THIS PLUMBER PLAT, IT ALSO BEGINS TO ESTABLISH, UH, THE ACTUAL, UH, PLANTED LOT, UH, THAT IS CURRENTLY, UH, COMPRISED OF TWO SEPARATE TRACKS.
SO THIS WILL ALL BE APPLIED INTO ONE LOT.
UM, SO, UH, WITH THIS, UH, MOVING FORWARD, THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT, IF APPROVED, UH, WE'LL BE USED TO INFORM, UH, CIVIL ENGINEERING SITE DESIGN, UH, CIVIL ENGINEERING PLANS, OUR, UH, UNDERGRAD VIEW, UH, WITH, UH, BOTH THE APPLICANT AND TOWN STAFF.
UH, ONCE CIVIL ENGINEERING, UH, REVIEW IS COMPLETE, UH, THE APPLICANT WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SITE WORK AND THAT TRANSITION INTO PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, UH, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PROJECT AND THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO BRING A FINAL PLAT, UH, BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO, UH, FORMALLY ESTABLISH THE LAW, AS WELL AS THE NOTED EASEMENTS.
UH, THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT DOES COMPLY WITH, UH, ALL TOWN, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AS WELL AS, UH, THE ADOPTED ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE SITE.
UH, WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM, UH, REPRESENTING THE PROJECT, UH, JOEL MASSEY OF, UH, ICON, UH, ENGINEERS.
UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED, I THINK AGAIN, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CAMERON? DOES THE APPLICANT? WE USED TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO SAY?
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I'LL TAKE THAT AS A, NO, THIS MAY BE THE CASE WHERE A SIMPLE PLANT AND A PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING WILL BE CALLED.IF NO OTHER QUESTIONS, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, THIS CASE AS SUGGESTED AND RECOMMENDED BY STAFF? DO I HEAR A SECOND, SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE APPROVE BY STATING AYE.
AND WE BLENDED WITH ONE EXTENSION.
QUARTER RECORD, ORIGINAL MOTION FROM HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SO I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PP 20, 21 0 1 VITRUVIAN PART PLAT APPROVAL.
SAY NO, AND THEN WE LOSE TENSION.
[3. Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on a Recommendation regarding an Ordinance Changing the Zoning for a 1.804-Acre Property Located at 4150 Beltway Drive, from Planned Development (PD) through Ordinance 083-039, to a new Planned Development (PD) District to Allow a Townhome Development Comprised of 33 Townhome Lots and Associated Open Space and Common Area Lots. Case 1846-Z/4150 Beltway Drive (Addison Reserve Townhomes).]
ITEM OF BUSINESS, PRESENT AND DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING AN ORDINANCE.CHANGING THE ZONING FOR 1.804 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 41 50 BELTWAY DRIVE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT VD THROUGH ORDINANCE 0 8 3 DASH 0 3 9 2 A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD DISTRICT TO ALLOW A TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT COMPRISED OF 33 TOWNHOME, LOTS AND ASSOCIATED OPEN SPACE AND COMMON AREA.
THIS IS CASE 1 8 4 0 4 6 DASH Z SLASH 4 1 5 OH BELTWAY DRIVE, EDISON, RESERVED TOWNHOMES.
KEN, CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE THE STAFF REPORT? GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, KEN SCHMIDT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THE TALENTS OR THE CITED QUESTION? A 1.803 ACRE SITE QUESTION IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF ELWAY DRIVE, APPROXIMATELY 180 FEET WEST OF MIDWAY ROAD.
UH, IT IS THE FORMER HOME OF THE SUPER EIGHT MOTEL.
UH, SO, UH, THAT PROPERTY WAS THERE INITIALLY ESTABLISHING THE TOWN, UH, THROUGH, UH, PV, UH, ZONING THAT WAS APPROVED IN 1979.
SHORTLY AFTER THAT ZONING PROCESS, THE SITE WAS CONSTRUCTED.
UH, THERE WAS ADDITIONAL ZONING ACTION IN THIS AREA IN 1983.
UH, IT ADDRESSED THIS PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES TO THE, UH, EASTERN SOUTH.
AND ONE OF THE ACTIONS THAT, UH, WAS BROUGHT ON BY THAT, UH, DOES THAT MEAN ACTION WAS, UH, THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND, UH, THE HOTEL USE, UH, IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF THE, UH, FORMER SUPER EIGHT SITES THAT, UM, WAS NEVER TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, UH, THE ADDITIONAL HOTEL, UH, USE WAS NOT CONSTRUCTED.
AND THEN IN THE EARLY NINETIES, UH, THAT PROPERTY, UH, WHICH WAS ONCE UNDER, UM, UH, OWNERSHIP OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, WAS SOLD, UH, AND, UH, THROUGHOUT THE NINETIES AND THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.
AND TO THE POINT IN 2018, UH, WHERE THE PROPERTY WAS DAMAGED, THERE WAS, UH, SEVERAL CHANGES IN OWNERSHIP.
UH, SO IN 2018, AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE WAS A, UH, FIRE EVENT, UH, ON THE PROPERTY, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY DAMAGING THE HOTEL BUILDING TO THE POINT OF, OR IT WAS NO LONGER, UH, USABLE OR REPAIRABLE AND IT WAS, UH, DEMOLISHED.
UH, SO SINCE THAT POINT IN 2018, UH, THE PROPERTY HAS REMAINED VACANT, UH, BRINGING US, UH, TODAY TO THIS REQUEST BY COLA HOMES.
UH, THEY ARE REQUESTING, UH, TO, UH, RESOUND, UH, TO A NEW PD IN ORDER TO, UH, DEVELOP A TALENT HOME, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF OWNERSHIP, TOWNHOMES, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, COMPLIMENTARY OPEN SPACES AND, UH, COMMON AREA, LOTS ON THAT 1.803 ACRE SITE.
UM, SO ONE THING THAT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING, UH, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER REDEVELOPMENT IS LOOKING AT, UH, OLD AERIALS OF PAST CONDITIONS AND THE CURRENT CONDITION.
SO THE DAMAGE ON THE LEFT IS FROM 2013.
OBVIOUSLY THE HOTEL IS STILL THERE, THE OUTLINING, RIGHT? IT IS A ROUGH APPROXIMATION OF THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY.
UH, YOU CAN ALSO SEE, UH, AS YOU TRANSITIONED BETWEEN THESE TWO PROPERTIES, NOT ONLY EVOLUTION OF THIS SITE, BUT EVOLUTION OF THE SURROUNDING RETAIL.
UM, YOU SEE WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY A, A DEVELOPMENT
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SITE, WHICH WAS TO BE HOME TO A, UH, HOTEL EXPANSION, UH, WAS ULTIMATELY DEVELOPED WITH ADDITIONAL PARKING AND KIND OF SPEAKING TO, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, DEMAND AND TRENDS, UH, IN THAT GENERAL AREA OVER TIME, UM, WITH THE PROPOSED CONCEPTUAL PLANS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THIS APPLICATION, UH, COLDWELL HOMES SAYS, UH, SUBMITTED A PLAN FOR, UH, 31, UH, TOWNHOME LOTS, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE SITE OF THREE-STORY TOWN HOMES ON B SYMBOL OWNERSHIP, LOTS.UM, SO, UH, ONE THING I'D NOTE IN THE AGENDA CAPTURE, WELL, AS THE NOTICE THAT WENT OUT TO RESIDENTS, UH, YOU'LL NOTE THAT IT WAS 4 33 TOWNHOME UNITS.
UM, SO THAT WAS, UM, MODIFIED AS A RESULT OF, UH, PUBLIC INPUT THAT WAS RECEIVED AT A RECENT COMMUNITY MEETING THAT THE APPLICANT POSTED AND HE SENDS HER REDUCED IT TO 31, BECAUSE IT IS A REDUCTION IN INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THAT WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE WITH REGARDS TO, UH, COMPLYING WITH PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AND, UH, ANY ACTION OF THE COMMISSION.
NOW WITH THIS PROJECT, UH, YOU'LL NOTE THAT, UH, THE PROPOSED TIME UNITS, ALL EITHER FRONT-ON PUBLIC STREET, UH, OR FRONT ON PUBLIC OR PRIVATE OPEN SPACE.
SO ALL OF THE GARAGES, UH, WILL BE ACCESSED THROUGH THE INTERNAL MUSE STREETS, UH, THAT, UH, REALLY ARE, ARE MORE LIKE AN ACCESS WAY OR AN ALLEY, UH, THAT SERVED THOSE, UH, UH, ACCESS NEEDS.
UH, YOU DO HAVE A UNIT SPRINTING TOWARDS BELTWAY, UH, BUT THOSE WOULD NOT BE ADDRESSED OFF OF BELTWAY.
THEY'D BE ADDRESS OFF OF, UH, THOSE MAIN STREETS, UH, ONE KEY COMPONENT OF THIS PLAN THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL WHEN WE GET INTO THE SANDS CLUB STUDY IS, UH, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PLANET.
AND THAT'S A, UM, OPEN SPACE OFFER AREA, AS WELL AS THEY REQUIRED BUILDING SETBACK AND THEN A TRAIL CORRIDOR.
SO, UH, CURRENTLY WITH THIS PLAN, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEDICATE TO JUST UNDER 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF PARKLAND, UH, THAT YOU SEE REFLECTED IN THAT IMAGE.
AND THAT AMOUNTS TO A, UH, LARGELY 57 FOOT WIDE ON A STRUCK, DID A GREENBELT AREA WITHIN THAT GREENBELT AREA.
UH, THERE WOULD BE A 10 FOOT TRAIL THAT WOULD CONNECT UP TO BELTLINE AND OR BELTWAY, EXCUSE ME, AND WOULD REALLY START AS THE, UM, UH, WOULD BE THE INITIAL PHASE OF THE TOWN'S MASTER PLAN TRAIL THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY EXTEND FURTHER SOUTH AS PROPERTIES REDEVELOPED.
UM, ALSO, UH, WITH THAT WESTERN EDGE OF THE PROJECT, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT, UH, FOR THE SAND CLUB COMMITTEE TO ACHIEVE, UM, UH, A, UH, AMPLE BUILDING SETBACK TO, UH, ENSURE APPROPRIATE RESIDENTIAL COMPATIBILITY WITH THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY.
SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A 118 FOOT BUILDING THE BUILDING SEPARATION FROM THE TALENT SHORTAGE PROPOSED HERE AND, AND THE, UH, BUILT, UH, CLOSEST BUILDINGS IN THE TOWN LAKE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TO THE WEST, UH, INTERNAL TO THE SITE, YOU'LL SEE A PRIVATE OPEN SPACE, UH, THAT, UH, TOWNHOME UNITS FRONT DOWN.
AND THEN ON THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE SITE, UH, YOU HAVE A PROPOSED DEDICATION FOR A PUBLIC STREET.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS COME UP A LOT IN THE REVIEW, THIS PROJECT ROLE IN TERMS OF STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY IS, UH, THE CON THE ISSUE OF VISITOR PARKING, GIVEN THE ORIENTATION OF THE PROJECT.
SO WITH THE INITIAL PROPOSAL, THE APPLICANT PROPOSED 14 VISITOR PARKING SPACES, AND WHAT YOU SEE REFLECTED HERE IS 18 VISITOR PARKING SPACES WITH ONE, UH, MIRROR, THE WESTERN ENTRYWAY, THAT'S A BIT ISOLATED INTENDED TO BE RESERVED FOR, UH, DELIVERY USAGE, AND THEY WOULD BE SIGNED IN THAT WAY.
UM, ON THE TOPIC OF PARKING, UH, UH, PARKING PROVIDED FOR THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE THE GARAGE BASIS.
SO EACH UNIT WOULD HAVE A, UH, A TWO CAR GARAGE ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
UH, SO WITH 31 UNITS THAT WOULD ACCOUNT FOR, UH, 62 GARAGE PARKING SPACES, AND THEN, UH, PROVIDING A, UH, UH, TOTAL PARKING FOR THE SITE, UH, 80 PARKING SPACES, UH, THROUGH THE ADDITION OF THE 18 VISITOR PARKING SPACES, UM, WITH OPEN SPACE AT LANDSCAPE AND STREETSCAPE, UM, ADDRESSED, UM, THE GREEN BELT ALREADY.
UH, BUT THAT IS, UH, OBVIOUSLY A CRITICAL COMPONENT.
UH, ONE THING I HAVE NOT TOUCHED ON YET IS THE BELTWAY DRIVE STREETSCAPE.
UM, CURRENTLY THERE ARE SEVEN MATURED TREES ALONG THAT STREET SCAPE.
UM, WITH THIS PROPOSAL, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO PRESERVE SIX OF THOSE TREES.
ONE OF THOSE TREES IS PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED, TO ACCOMMODATE, UH,
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THE WESTERN MOST SITE ACCESS THAT SITE ACCESS IS NEEDED AT THAT LOCATION IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, THE DESIRES, UH, PARKWAY BUFFER AND TRAIL AT THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE SITE, UM, WITH THIS PROJECT AS WELL.UH, THE APPLICANT IS ACHIEVING, UH, ABOVE WHAT IS TYPICALLY REQUIRED FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT IN ADDISON, 20% LANDSCAPE AREA, THEY'RE PROVIDING 24% LANDSCAPE AREA, AND THEY ARE PROPOSING 39 NEW TREES.
UH, THOSE WOULD BE PLANTED, UH, IN THE WESTERN, UH, PARKWAY BUFFER AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE AND OTHER SMALLER LANDSCAPE AREAS SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT AT THE BELTWAY STREETSCAPE.
IN ADDITION TO A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK, UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO HAVE PRIVATE PATIO IN COURT AREA AREAS THAT WOULD HAVE, UH, SOME ORNAMENTAL FENCING THAT WOULD SEPARATE THE, UH, PRIVATE REALM FROM THE PUBLIC REALM.
SO THE SIDEWALK FROM THE PRIVATE SPACE, UH, OF THE RESIDENCES, UH, AT THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE PROJECT FOR THE UNITS FACING, UH, THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, AND THEY PROPOSE A LARGER, UH, COURTYARD PATIO AREA OF UP TO EIGHT TO 10 FEET.
UH, SO WITH THE PROPOSED BUILDING DESIGN, UH, THE MAX HEIGHT THAT'S PROPOSED IS, UH, THREE STORIES, UH, AND A HEIGHT OF SLIGHTLY OVER, UH, 42 FEET, I BELIEVE JUST A HALF INCH, UH, FROM GRADE TO PEAK.
UM, THE TYPICAL FLOOR PLAN THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED AND WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS COMMUNICATED IN NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS WOULD BE A THREE BEDROOM FLOOR PLAN.
UH, ONE ON THE GROUND FLOOR THAT'S TYPICALLY USED AS OFFICE SPACE OR WORKOUT SPACE.
AND THEN, UH, TWO, UH, BEDROOMS ON THE UPPER FLOORS AND THE TYPICAL FLOOR AREA OF 2100 SQUARE FEET AS NOTED.
EACH UNIT WILL HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE WITH INTERIOR ACCESS TO THE UNIT.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, UM, THEIR TYPICAL ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN IS A BIT MORE MODERN.
UH, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THEY HEARD FROM STAFF AS WELL AS FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING IS, UH, ENSURING THAT THAT MESHES APPROPRIATELY WITH THE CHARACTER OF THIS AREA.
UH, THEY'VE ATTEMPTED TO DO THAT THROUGH THE, THE, UH, PROVISION OF A PITCHED ROOF, GABLES MODIFICATION AND MATERIALS.
AND THEN ALSO VERY IMPORTANTLY AT THE BELTWAY FRONTAGE AND THE PARKWAY, UH, AND THE, THE PARK BUFFER FRONTAGE, THEY PROVIDING A BIT OF AN UNDULATING, UH, BUILDING FACADE THAT HAS SOME SETBACKS AND BREAKS UP.
UH, THE, UH, BUILDING MATERIALS PROPOSED ARE PRIMARILY BRICK AND A HARDY BOARD OR THAN BATON MATERIAL THAT HAVE INCREASED THE USE OF GREEK.
A SENSE OF WHAT WAS PROPOSED INITIALLY BEFORE THE PROJECT, UH, WITH THIS, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
UH, GENERALLY THESE ARE STANDARDS THAT ARE, UM, UH, BORROWED AND MODIFIED FROM DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THE TOWNHOMES AND ADDISON CIRCLE, UH, TOWNHOMES THAT YOU MAY SEE IN VITRUVIAN.
IT'S NOT A DIRECT MATCH TO ANY DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S REALLY TAILORED TO THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS PROJECT, UH, BUT, UH, PERMITTED USES VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD TOWNHOMES, SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED AND ASSOCIATED ACCESSORY USES A PROPOSED MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS, A 31 WHAT'S REFLECTED IN THE PLAN, A LARGER FRONT YARD SETBACKS AT BELTWAY AND AT THE PARKWAY BUFFER BEING FIVE AND 10 FEET.
AND THEN IN THE INTERIOR LAWNS THAT ARE FRONTING ON THE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE, NO FRONT YARD SETBACK, A SIDE YARD SETBACK AT BELTWAY OF FIVE FEET.
UM, BUT ZERO ELSEWHERE IS, AND THESE ARE TOWNHOME UNITS AND THE NO SETBACK IN THE REAR, A MAXIMUM HEIGHT, WE COVERED THREE STORIES, A MINIMUM LOT WITH 20 FEET CONSISTENT WITH TOWNHOME PRODUCT THAT WE SEE, AND THEN A MINIMUM FLOOR AREA SLIGHTLY, UH, A BIT SMALLER THAN WHAT'S PROPOSED AS THEIR TYPICAL, BUT THAT'S JUST TO, UH, GIVE THEM FLEXIBILITY IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S MORE MARKET FOR A SMALLER UNIT OR A TWO-STORY UNIT, UM, PARKING WE'VE ADDRESSED.
UM, ONE THING THAT WE'VE NOT TALKED ABOUT YET WITH THIS PLAN IS A PROPOSED PERIMETER FENCING AT THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE PROJECT AND THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE PROJECT.
AND THEY PROPOSE, UM, AUTOMATED GATES THAT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY OPEN FROM THE INTERIOR.
THE BELT WESTERN BELTWAY DRIVE IS NOT GATED, SO ANYONE CAN GET IN, IT'S JUST GETTING OUT, UH, IT'S GATED.
UH, IT LETS YOU OUT, BUT ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ENTER THE PROJECT, UH, FROM THE EAST SIDE, UH, THAT FENCING IS PROPOSED AS BEING POTENTIALLY TEMPORARY.
IF THIS AREA CONTINUES TO REDEVELOP AND YOU HAVE COMPATIBLE USES, MUCH
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OF THAT FENCING COULD BE REMOVED.AND THEN A MINIMUM LANDSCAPE AREA WE'VE NOTED AS 20% AND THEN THE REQUIRED ONE TREE PER UNIT AND A HALF A TREE PER SURFACE PARKING SPACE.
UH, SO AS WE EVALUATE THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THIS PROPOSAL, UH, AN IMPORTANT STARTING POINT IS THE TOWN'S LONG RANGE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT POLICIES.
UH, MOST NOTABLY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE ONGOING SAM'S CLUB, UH, SPECIAL AREA OF STUDY OUR HOUSING POLICY, AND THEN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND AMENITY PLANS SUCH AS THE TRANSPORTATION PARK AND TRAIL MASTER PLANS.
UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS QUITE CLEAR ON THIS AREA.
UH, IT SPEAKS TO NOT ONLY THIS PROPERTY, BUT THE SURROUNDING RETAIL DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH AS POTENTIALLY BEING APPROPRIATE FOR A TOWNHOMES ZONING AND A MIXED USE ZONING.
THAT INCLUDES TOWNHOMES IN THE FUTURE.
SO THAT WOULD COMPLY WITH THE DIRECTION OF THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF SAM'S CLUB STUDY IS ONGOING.
UH, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS REFINING, UH, THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR THAT STUDY, UH, AND HAS CONSIDERED THIS PROJECT OR THIS SITE, UH, CERTAINLY IN DETAIL, GIVEN THAT IT'S, UH, ONE OF, UH, 17 PROPERTIES IN THE STUDY AREA, UM, WITH THE CURRENT DIRECTION OF THIS STUDY, UM, THE COMMITTEE HAS, UM, LARGELY TAKEN AN APPROACH THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UM, NOT GET INCREDIBLY DETAILED AND, UM, UH, VERY PROGRAMMATIC AND PRESCRIPTIVE WITH REGARDS TO USE, UH, THEY'VE IDENTIFIED POLICIES THAT ADDRESS THINGS LIKE THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT, LIKE RESIDENTIAL COMPATIBILITY TRAIL CONNECTIONS, AND HOW USES MAY BE ORIENTED TO ACHIEVE THOSE NEEDS, UH, TOWNHOMES, UH, PARTICULARLY AS A FEE SIMPLE OPPORTUNITY, UH, WOULD BE A FAVORABLE USE BASED ON THE CURRENT DIRECTION OF THE STUDY.
BUT WITH THAT SAID, I WANT TO RESPECT THAT PROCESS AND NOT DEFINITIVELY TAKE A POSITION ON WHETHER THE SAM'S CLUB STUDY WOULD SUPPORT A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
THE TOWN ALSO HAS A HOUSING POLICY.
IT SPEAKS TO THINGS LIKE THE IMPORTANCE OF FEE, SIMPLE OWNERSHIP IN FUTURE PROPOSALS FOR HOUSING.
UH, IT CERTAINLY IS ADDRESSED HERE.
AND THEN, UM, OF NOTE WITH, UH, OUR TRAIL MASTER PLAN, UH, THE TRAIL CORRIDOR THAT IS PLANNED IN THE WESTERN PARKWAY, BUFFER IS VERY MUCH PART OF OUR TRAIL MASTER PLAN.
SO THAT WOULD START TO IMPLEMENT THAT.
AND THEN THE SIX FOOT SIDEWALK ON BELTWAY WOULD ALSO BE CONSISTENT WITH BOTH THE TRAIL MASTER PLAN AND THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
UM, THE OTHER THINGS WE DO WHEN WE, UM, UH, EVALUATE, UH, REZONING REQUESTS IS THINK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS AND HOW THOSE ARE BEING ADDRESSED BY THE PROPOSAL, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
SO, UH, PROBABLY THE MOST CRITICAL AT THIS LOCATION IS RESIDENTIAL COMPATIBILITY.
UM, BOTH WITH THE SAM'S CLUB STUDY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT WAS HELD AND ALL THE ENGAGEMENT WITH STAFF, IT WAS ALWAYS EMPHASIZED TO THE APPLICANT THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAXIMIZE THE SIZE OF THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO ACHIEVE AN AMENITY, BUT ALSO MAXIMIZE THE BUILDING SETBACK.
UM, IDEALLY WE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO ACHIEVE THE HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER THAT IS ENVISIONED BY THE SAM'S CLUB STUDY, BUT WE'VE ACKNOWLEDGED IN THAT PROCESS, THAT THAT MAY BE A CHALLENGE FOR SOME PROPERTIES BECAUSE NOT ALL PROPERTIES ARE 500, 600, 800 FEET IN DEPTH.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, THIS IS ONLY 380 FEET, UH, IN DEPTH, IF YOU TOOK A 100 FOOT BUFFER FROM THIS PROPERTY THAT WOULD IMMEDIATELY CONSUME 25% OF THE GROSS AREA OF THE PROPERTY, MAKING IT VERY CHALLENGING TO DEVELOP JUST ECONOMICALLY, WHICH ISN'T THE TALENTS ISSUE TO SOLVE.
UH, BUT ALSO FROM A LAND PLANNING AND STANDPOINT, IT MAKES IT CHALLENGING AS WELL.
UH, WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS MAXIMIZED BOTH THE LANDSCAPE AREA, UH, OPEN SPACE AREA, TRAIL CORRIDOR, BUT ALSO THE BUILDING SETBACK TO TOWN LAKE, UH, ACHIEVING OVER 100 FEET IS, UH, IS A BIG WIN FOR THIS PROPERTY.
UH, WE FEEL THAT HE'S MAXIMIZED THAT IN A WAY THAT HE CAN STILL ACHIEVE HIS ECONOMIC NEEDS WITH THIS PROJECT.
UH, THE NEXT THING I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IS TRAFFIC GENERATION AND CIRCULATION.
UH, SO A TIA WAS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS PROJECT.
UH, THE REASON FOR THAT IS, UH, THERE WOULD LIKELY BE LESS TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE PROPOSED USE THAN THE USE THAT PRE-EXISTED AND COULD BE BUILT.
THEORETICALLY, I'M NOT SAYING THAT A HOTEL WOULD BE BUILT AT THIS LOCATION.
AGAIN, ONE HAS FAILED, BUT IF ONE WERE TO, UH, THE DIFFERENCE IN TRAFFIC, IF ANY, WOULD LIKELY BE NEGLIGIBLE,
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IT IS POSSIBLE THROUGH OTHER PERMITTED USES ON THE PROPERTY, WHETHER THAT'D BE OFFICE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, OR THEY SOUGHT AN SEP OR RESTAURANT, UH, IT VERY LIKELY COULD HAVE A HIGHER TRAFFIC DEMAND THAN WHAT'S, UH, WOULD RESULT FROM THESE TOWNHOMES.UM, WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AND FROM THE COMMISSION IN THE WORK SESSION, A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT, UH, I THINK THE PLAN HAS ATTEMPTED TO ADDRESS AND THE APPLICANT CAN, UH, FURTHER ADDRESS IN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS, UM, THE IMPACT ON BELTWAY AND WHETHER THERE WOULD BE PARKING AND SERVICE, THE LIBRARIES ON BELTWAY, UH, THROUGH THE, UH, ADDRESSING OF UNITS OFF OF THE MUSE DRIVE, AND THEN ALSO PROVIDING A DEDICATED DELIVERY SPACE, UH, JASON, FOR THOSE UNITS, UH, WE'VE TRIED TO, UH, UH, GUIDE THE DEVELOP APPLICANT TO MITIGATE THAT ISSUE.
DO YOU THINK THAT WILL HELP, UM, WILL IT PERFECTLY MITIGATE THAT ISSUE? UH, HUMAN NATURE WOULD SUGGEST IT WOULD NOT.
THE TALENT ALSO HAS OTHER ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS THAT WE CAN TAKE SIGNING THAT AREA AND ACTIVELY ENFORCING TO, UH, ENSURE THAT FOLKS ARE NOT PARKING ON THAT AREA REGULARLY.
UH, ANOTHER ISSUE, UH, AND, AND CURRENT INCUMBENTS, UH, TO THE PROPERTY, THE TALENT IS NOT PARTY TO THIS ENCUMBRANCE, BUT THERE IS AN EASEMENT THAT ENCUMBERS THE PROPERTY ALONG ITS EASTERN SOUTHERN AND WESTERN BOUNDARY.
AND THIS IS A ACCESS AND UTILITY EASEMENT THAT WAS GRANTED WHEN THIS PROPERTY SOLD, THAT EASEMENT IS GRANTED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH.
UM, IF THIS PROJECT IS TO MOVE FORWARD, THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO RESOLVE, WE WOULD NOT ISSUE ANY BUILDING PERMITS UNTIL WE RECEIVED NOTICE THAT THAT ISSUE WAS RESOLVED, BUT THAT IS NOT THE TOWN'S ISSUE TO SOLVE AS BETWEEN THE, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THAT AGREEMENT.
UM, WITH REGARDS TO UTILITIES, UH, THIS SITE, UH, HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH CAPACITY FOR WATER AND SEWER, AND IT CAN BE SUFFICIENTLY SERVED.
UH, THIS PROPOSAL WILL ADD, UH, MORE GREEN SPACE THAN CURRENTLY EXISTS THERE.
UH, SO DRAINAGE CAN BE APPROPRIATELY ADDRESSED.
THIS SITE IS SERVED BY ISD, UH, DALLAS ISD.
AND, UH, WE ANTICIPATE GIVEN THE RESIDENTIAL NATURE OF THIS AREA, UH, THAT, UH, BOTH THE ISD AND THE TOWN WOULD NOT HAVE ANY TROUBLE PROVIDING APPROPRIATE SERVICES TO THESE NEW RESIDENTS.
UM, SO THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, AS I NOTED ON FEBRUARY 1ST, UH, THE APPLICANT PRESENTED, UH, TO, UH, APPROXIMATELY 40 INTERESTED COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THEN ALSO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THEM.
AND SINCE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, THEY'VE MODIFIED THEIR CLIENTS TO REFLECT THAT FEEDBACK, UH, AT A HIGH LEVEL, THEY'VE ELIMINATED THE TWO LOTS INCREASE THE WIDTH OF THE OPEN SPACE, AS WELL AS THE BUILDING SETBACK, ADDING THE FOUR ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES, UH, MADE ATTEMPTS TO RESTRICT FURTHER, RESTRICT PARKING ON BELTWAY AND PROVIDING FOR BETTER PARKING FOR DELIVERIES, ADDRESS THE UNITS OFF OF BELTWAY OFF OF THE MUSE LANE.
UH, THEY'VE INCREASED THE USE OF MASONRY MATERIALS AND THEY'RE BUILDING FACADE PLANS.
UH, THEY PROVIDED SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THEIR FENCE PROPOSED FENCE MATERIALS, AND THEN THEY'VE ALSO DELINEATED PROPOSED DEDICATIONS FOR PARKLAND AS WELL AS, UH, STREET RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH TOWN STATE REQUIREMENTS, UH, STAFF PROVIDED NOTICE TO 47 ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
THAT'S INCLUSIVE OF AN HOA AS WELL AS DALLAS ISD.
UM, WITHIN THAT NOTICE AREA, WE DID RECEIVE ONE LETTER OF OPPOSITION FROM VVI, INC.
THAT IS THE OWNER OF, UH, THE LARGER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT BORDERS THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST END OF THE SOUTH.
AS A RESULT OF THAT OPPOSITION, UH, THE COMMISSION WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ACHIEVE A SUPER MAJORITY OF APPROVAL, SIX OF SEVEN VOTES APPROVING IN ORDER TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION.
UH, WE DID RECEIVE, UM, ADDITIONAL, UH, LETTERS OF OPPOSITION SINCE THE PACKAGE WENT OUT OUTSIDE OF, UH, THAT LETTER FROM BBI INC, UH, SUB FOUR LETTERS OF OPPOSITION, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROPERTY, BUT ALSO SOME OTHER PROPERTIES THAT THAT PARTY OWNS ON, UM, MORGAN LANE.
AND THEN, UH, ONE LETTER THAT WAS NEUTRAL, UH, BUT WANTED TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON SOME CONCERNS THEY HAD ON BELTWAY DRY.
AND THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, SO WITH THAT STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, THE PROPOSED PLANS, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND THE APPROVAL CONDITIONS, WHICH I'LL REVIEW IN A MOMENT.
DO YOU MEET, UH, THE TOWN'S LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT POLICIES? MOST NOTABLY THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, THE DRAFT SCIENCE CLUB, SPECIAL AREA STUDY AND THE TRAIL MASTER CLAN.
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IS A VERY DIFFICULT AREA, UH, TO CONSIDER, UH, REUSE AND REDEVELOPMENT ARE, ARE REALLY THE MOST CHALLENGING THINGS WE DO AS CITIES AND THE MOST CHALLENGING THINGS FOR DEVELOPERS TO DO.THE SAM'S CLUB COMMITTEE IS VERY THOUGHTFULLY CONSIDERING THIS AREA, AND THEY'RE VERY CHALLENGED BY IT.
UH, SO I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THIS WILL BE A CHALLENGING CONSIDERATION AS WELL, BUT, UH, STAFF DOES BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS DONE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO TRY TO, UH, ACHIEVE THE GOALS OF OUR POLICIES, UM, MEET, UH, AND RESPOND TO THE NEEDS OF RESIDENTS AND, UH, TRYING TO ACHIEVE AN ADJACENT BUSINESS OWNERS AND ACHIEVE A ECONOMICALLY VIABLE PROJECT FOR THEMSELVES.
UH, SO THE APPROVAL CONDITIONS NOTED.
UM, ONE THING THAT, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, UM, BECAUSE THE TALENT HAS, UH, A TRAIL MASTER PLAN THAT THE ENVISIONS A TRAIL ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BELTWAY.
UH, SO THIS WOULD BE, UH, A OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE A CONNECTION ACROSS BELTWAY AND THE LINK INTO THE PLAN, UH, TRAIL THROUGH THIS, UH, WESTERN CORRIDOR, UH, INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE SIDEWALK, UH, JUST, UH, ON THE, THE WEST SIDE OF, UM, THE WESTERN MOST ACCESS DRIVE FROM SIX FEET, 10 FEET.
SO LONG AS WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT, UH, IMPACTING ANY MATURE TREES, UH, KEEPING THE MASONRY SCREENING WALL THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN PLACE UNTIL ADJACENT LOTS ARE BUILT, UH, ENSURING THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDES CONFIRMATION OF A EASEMENT RELEASE, UH, WITH THE PRIVATE AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE SOUTH, UH, PRIOR TO ANY BUILDING PERMITS, BEING ISSUED, UH, INSTALLATION OF ALL TRAILS PARK FOR MACHINES AND PUBLIC STREET IMPROVEMENTS PRIOR TO TOWN ACCEPTANCE, UM, ESTABLISHING AN AGREEMENT, UH, FOR THE POTENTIAL FUTURE REMOVAL OF THE PROPOSED PERIMETER FENCING, AND THEN, UH, ENSURING THAT, UH, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT CLIENTS COMPLY WITH THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, JOSH NICHOLS AND HIS TEAM FROM COBALT HOMES IS HERE TONIGHT AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND, UH, STAFF WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AS WELL.
THANK YOU CAN MAKE SURE I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR YEAH.
ONE CLARIFICATION ON BACKUP PEDRO TO WHERE YOU HAD SOMETHING ABOUT THE DEDICATION.
I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE WORK SESSION, THAT ONE WAS PUBLIC STREET DEDICATION.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE INTERNAL IS GOING TO BE PRIVATE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO ALL THE, THE EAST WEST, UH, ACCESS DRIVES THAT YOU SEE AND THE NORTH SOUTH ONE ON THE WEST, THOSE WOULD ALL BE PRIVATE.
THE PUBLIC STREET WOULD BE THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE PROJECT THAT YOU SEE RUNNING NORTH.
SO YOU WERE TAKING ON A ROAD THAT YOU CURRENTLY ARE NOT CORRECT.
IS THERE CURRENTLY UTILITIES IN THERE? IS THAT JUST FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IT'S ON, UH, UTILITY EASEMENT AS ARE CURRENTLY UTILITIES IN THERE? OR IS THAT JUST FOR FUTURE AT ALL? UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS PRIMARILY ANTICIPATED FOR FIJI DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE WOULD NEED TO CLARIFY THAT.
AND IF THIS AREA REDEVELOPED, THEY WERE LIKELY, THEY MAY HAVE TO REALIGN.
THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER KIN THEY'RE APPROPRIATE TO BRING THEM UP NOW.
SO, UH, LET ME SAY THAT, UM, I REALLY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, UM, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TO BE BUILT THERE.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD SOLUTION TO WHAT HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, UM, A DIFFICULT AREA FOR SURE.
UH, BUT THERE ARE TWO OR THREE THINGS THAT I WILL LIMIT MY COMMENTS TO, UM, WHERE I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT NUMBER ONE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO FINISHING THE SAM'S CLUB RECOMMENDATION.
IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, WHICH NONE OF US HAVE HEARD OTHER THAN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THAT COMMITTEE.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S NEVER AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO BE FIRST, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE JUMPING THE GUN A LITTLE BIT, AT LEAST BEFORE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.
SO IF IN THE SPIRIT OF THINGS WERE GOOD, I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT FROM THEM BEFORE WE SAY, WE KNOW YOU WERE WORKING ON THAT, BUT WE KNOW BETTER, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO IN FIRST.
UH, NUMBER TWO IS NOT EVEN ABOUT TRAFFIC ON BELTWAY BECAUSE TRAFFIC IS, YOU KNOW, GOING TO BE WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE, BUT THE PARKING WILL BE AN ISSUE, UH, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO PARK THEIR TWO CARS IN THEIR GARAGE.
UH, I HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE, ONLY ONE CAR IS IN THERE AND THE REST IS
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WHEREVER I CAN PARK.SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A, UH, AN ISSUE.
IT'LL PROBABLY BE AN ISSUE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE EVENING IT'LL PROBABLY BE AN ISSUE ON THE WEEKENDS AND PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE AN ISSUE, BUT IT CERTAINLY LENDS ITSELF TO DOING THAT.
AND THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS AROUND THE LIBERATION, YOU KNOW, UH, WHERE DO PEOPLE MAKE DELIVERIES WORK AS FEDEX GO WHERE'S AMAZON AND GO, UH, AND IF THEY CAN'T GO, WHERE DO THEY PARK? WHAT DO THEY DO? UH, I KNOW THAT TODAY ON, UH, THE, UH, ONE OF THE ADDISON TRUCKS WAS DOING SOME WORK, UH, IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPASSABLE WHERE YOU GOTTA GO AROUND THAT.
UM, AND THEN ANYTHING THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO, I MEAN, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WHERE THOSE OAK TREES ARE LOCATED.
SO IF, IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A SIDEWALK PUT IN THERE, THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO BE GREAT.
NONE OF THOSE STREAMS SHOULD COME OUT, EVEN IF IT'S JUST ONE, NONE OF THEM SHOULD COME OUT.
THEY BEEN ON HERE LONGER THAN US PROBABLY.
AND, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE, MY RESERVATIONS ARE MORE ABOUT THE TIMING OF IT AND SOME OF THE AESTHETICS OF IT AS MUCH AS OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO RESPOND TO? UM, SO I, I THINK IT, IT'S PROBABLY DUE FOR ME TO MAKE, SO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE STATUS OF THE SAM'S CLUB STUDY AND REALLY THE, THE TIMELINE FOR THIS PROJECT, IT, HOW IT'S BEING PRESENTED.
IT WOULD APPEAR THAT IT'S COME UP QUICKLY.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY, UH, MET, UH, STARTED MEETING WITH STAFF BEFORE I WAS IN TOWN EMPLOYEE.
AND I'VE BEEN A TOWN EMPLOYEE FOR JUST OVER A YEAR NOW.
SO THEY STARTED IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR, UM, WHEN I CAME ON BOARD AND WHEN I WAS, UH, CHARGED BY THE CITY MANAGER TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH COMPLETING THE SAM'S CLUB STUDY, I ASKED THE APPLICANT TO DEFER CONSIDERATION OF SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION UNTIL, UH, THAT PROJECT WAS RESOLVED.
UM, AS I NOTED, UM, IT IS A VERY COMPLEX TOPIC AND PEOPLE ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT AND THAT'S A GREAT THING, BUT IT ALSO DOES NOT NECESSARILY LEND ITSELF TO, UH, COMPLETING THINGS QUICKLY.
UM, BUT WITH THAT SAID, HE'S BEEN WAITING, UM, FOR OVER A YEAR NOW, HE'S PROBABLY BEEN READY TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR, FOR MANY MONTHS NOW.
AND, UM, THAT'S NOT THE TOWN'S PROBLEM TO SOLVE.
IT'S ULTIMATELY HIS, BUT JUST THE REALITY OF IT IS HE WOULD LOVE TO WAIT LONGER FOR THAT TO BE RESOLVED, BUT HE'S OUT OF CONTRACT TIME.
SO HE'S INVESTED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT INTO PREPARING THESE PLANS AND PREPARING SITE STUDIES FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND HE'S AT A POINT WHERE HE EITHER NEEDS TO MOVE ON OR, UH, SUBMIT THIS APPLICATION.
SO IT WASN'T THE INTENT OF THE APPLICANT TO, UM, UH, GET AHEAD OF THAT PROCESS.
IT'S JUST, HE HAD NO OTHER OPTION.
AND SO ONE OF THE WAYS WE WANTED TO, TO HELP ADDRESS THAT IS BY HAVING A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PROCESS IN ADDISON THAT REQUIRES DEVELOPERS TO DO THAT.
HE DID NOT HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT GIVEN THAT WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT PROCESS AND FOUND IT IMPORTANT.
AND AT THAT SAME TIME, IT WAS ALSO GIVING UPDATES TO THE SAM'S CLUB COMMITTEE.
SO THIS WAS NOT A SURPRISE TO THEM REGARDING THIS POTENTIAL APPLICATION.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE SAM'S CLUB STUDY WILL BE DONE.
IT'S MY HOPE THAT IT'S DONE IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.
UH, BUT IT IS A CHALLENGING TOPIC AND, AND THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO GET IT RIGHT, AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, BUT IT TAKES TIME TO DO THAT, UM, FOR THE TREES ON BELTWAY, UM, OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR, UM, HAS, UH, EVALUATED, UH, THE APPLICANTS DIRECTION THAT, UH, THOSE TREES CAN BE PRESERVED, UM, WHILE ACCOMMODATING THE SIDEWALK.
UM, SO, UH, HE'S PROPOSING TO PRESERVE SIX OF SEVEN TREES.
UH, ONE OF THE TREES WILL BE ELIMINATED BECAUSE HE NEEDS TO MOVE THE WESTERN MOST ACCESS DRIVE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS TO PROVIDE FOR PARKLAND AND THE TRAIL.
UM, THE, BECAUSE THE PRESENCE OF THAT WALL, AS WELL AS THE CONCRETE FOR THE PARKING LOT, UH, IT IS THE BELIEF OF THE PARKS DIRECTOR
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IS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT THAT THE ROOTS ARE SUFFICIENTLY DEEP, UH, DUE TO THAT CONDITION THAT THOSE TREES COULD GET PRESERVED WHILE STILL ACCOMMODATING THAT SIDEWALK.OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE EVALUATED FURTHER AS MORE DESIGN OCCURS AND DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, BUT, UM, IT'S TO NO BENEFIT TO HIM TO CUT DOWN THOSE TREES.
IT'S A GREAT PLACEMAKING ASPECT AND GREATLY IMPROVES THE CURB APPEAL OF THEIR PROJECT.
I ANTICIPATE THAT THEY WOULD, UH, DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO PRESERVE THOSE TREES, UH, FOR PARKING ON BELTWAY.
UM, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT ISSUE.
THERE'S PROBABLY NO SITE DESIGN TECHNIQUE, THE REGULATION I CAN PUT IN PLACE THAT COMPLETELY ELIMINATES THAT FROM EVER OCCURRING.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT WE CAN DO IN A LOT.
THEY'VE ALREADY DONE WITH THIS SITE PLAN TO MITIGATE THAT MAYBE THERE'S MORE WE CAN DO ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE, AND THERE'S MORE THEY CAN DO THROUGH THEIR DEED RESTRICTIONS TO MAKE THAT A MORE RARE OCCURRENCE THAN PERHAPS WHAT WOULD OCCUR OTHERWISE.
BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO ABSOLUTELY A HUNDRED PERCENT ELIMINATE THAT.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IN RESPONSE TO THAT, SORRY, WHEN WE THINK, I WOULD SAY IN RESPONSE TO THAT IS I THINK THAT'S ALL THE MORE REASON TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AND LET THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO FIND OUT WHAT THE STATUS IS OF THOSE STREETS BEFORE WE SAY YES, AND WE GO, AND THEN ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT NONE OF THEM CAN BE PRESERVED.
AND, UH, BUT AT THAT POINT EVERYTHING'S GONE.
SO IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RIGHT.
THE DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR A YEAR.
WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR A WEEK.
AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, WE'RE GOING PRETTY QUICK TO GET THIS DONE.
IS THE INSURANCE, THAT'S THE TRUE ENTRANCE INTO THE COMPLEX ON THE BELTWAY? SO THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROJECT IS THAT A FIRE SAFETY ISSUE OF WHY THAT HAS TO BE AN ENTRANCE VERSUS JUST FORCING ENTRANCES TO THE EAST SIDE, UH, FROM A FIRE SAFETY AND JUST GENERAL, HOW A DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BEHAVE YOU, HOW HAS YOUR OPERATE YOU'D WANT THE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS OF WHAT IDEALLY YOU'D ACHIEVE BESIDES, UM, ACHIEVING BETTER EMERGENCY CENTER DOES ACCESS, UM, GETTING FOLKS FURTHER OFF OF THE MIDWAY BELTWAY INTERSECTION IS, UH, IS VERY MUCH A POSITIVE.
YOU DON'T WANT THAT TO BECOME A BOTTLENECK BECAUSE ALL MOVEMENT OCCURS ON THE EAST SIDE.
SO PRESERVING THAT POINT OF ACCESS IS, HAS A LOT OF VALUE.
AND I HAVEN'T HAD A QUESTION ON THAT FIRST OFF.
I WANT TO SAY THAT, I THINK IT DOES SAY A LOT ABOUT THE DEVELOPER TAKE TIME TO MEET WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT THEY'RE BUILDING IS, IS A QUALITY PRODUCT.
I DO HAVE SOME MISSING CONCERNS OF BOB BROUGHT UP, BUT THE ONE SPECIFIC QUESTION I HAVE DOES RELATE TO THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT ONTO THE PROPERTY.
SO TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE, THE ACCESS, THE GATED ACCESS ON THE EASTERN SIDE.
AND THE REASON I ASKED ME, HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION ON HOW, HOW IT WILL GET IN AND GET OUT, OR WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE LIMITED? BECAUSE I KNOW, AND MAYBE THIS MIGHT GET A LITTLE EASIER ONCE THE WALL IS TAKEN DOWN OR IF IT'S TAKEN DOWN, BUT I MEAN, IT IS HARD TO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SPEED THAT SOME FOLKS COME IN TO OFF OF MIDWAY AND THEN THE CURVE IN THE ROAD, IT IS HARD SOMETIMES IT'S EITHER TO MAKE A LEFT OR RIGHT.
SO HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT EXHIBIT TRANSPLANT, UH, AT THIS LEVEL? UM, YEAH, SO CURRENTLY, UM, ANYONE CAN, UH, ENTER, UH, THE SITE FROM THE WESTERN MOST ACCESS, UM, ON THE EASTERN MOST ACCESS.
UH, IT WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO PEOPLE EXITING, UH, FROM, UH, THE SITE.
AND THEN, UM, THE DEVELOPER CAN CLARIFY, BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE BOTH INGRESS AND EGRESS, UH, FROM THAT GATED AREA, BUT HE CAN, HE CAN CONFIRM THAT CAN THE SIX OR SEVEN TREES THEY ARE CURRENTLY ON TOWN PROPERTY, OR IS THAT CONSIDERED THE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY WITH THE RIGHT AWAY THROUGH THAT? UH, SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE AN OUT RIGHT AWAY.
AND HAVE IN, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CASES COME BEFORE US WHERE, UH, THE, THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO BE REMOVING TREES, BUT THEN THEY REPLACED THEM WITH CABARET INCHES SOMEWHERE ELSE ON TOWN PROPERTY.
WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON REPLACING THE CALIPER FOR THE ONE TREE? I KNOW THAT APPLICANTS PUTTING IN NINE CAN'T BE TREES AND 30 ORNAMENTALS
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AS PART OF THEIR PROJECT AND EMAIL D FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT IT'S SPECIFICALLY TO THE TREE REMOVED ON TOWN PROPERTY.WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT? UH, ANY TREE REMOVED AS A RESULT OF THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO BE MITIGATED TO NOW WHETHER THAT'S PLANTINGS ONSITE OR AS YOU'VE SEEN IN SOME OF THE MORE RECENT PHYSICALLY CONSTRAINED SITES PAIN INTO THE TREE FARM.
SO TO THAT END, THEN THE NINE CAN BE TREES WITH CALPER OR THE, UH, SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE A MINIMUM OF FOUR-INCH DEPENDING ON WHAT'S BEING REMOVED.
SO THERE ARE SOME, UM, TREES THEY'RE NOT AS, UM, UH, I'D SAY IT'S QUALITY AS, UM, WHAT IS, UM, AT THE BELTWAY FRONTAGE.
UM, BUT THERE'S OTHER LANDSCAPE IN THE SITE.
UM, UH, AT THIS AGE WE DON'T HAVE A FULL, UM, UH, TREE, UH, SURVEY AND MITIGATION PLAN, BUT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PROVIDED AS A DEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE ADVANCED AND THEY'D HAVE TO MITIGATE FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S REMOVED.
AND IF, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, THEY REMOVED A 20 INCH TREE.
UM, IT WOULDN'T BE REPLACED WITH, UH, FIVE ORANGE TREES.
IT WOULD BE REPLACED WITH TWO EIGHT INCH TREES AT ONE, FOUR INCH TREE.
I WOULD SAY THE ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE ARE AT LEAST 40 INCH 48 INCH TREES.
SO THE NINE TIMES FOUR INCHES, 36 SORT OF THERE SEEMS TO BE A DEFICIENCY.
I KNOW YOU THROW HIM IN THE 30 OR A MENTAL DISEASE, BUT THEY'RE USUALLY ONLY TWO INCH HEIGHT.
UM, AND SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, UM, SO ONE OF THE MORE FORMAL DISCUSSION ON, UH, MITIGATION, UH, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO INCLUDE, UH, WHICH KIND OF SUPPORTS A LITTLE BIT WITH BOB IS SAYING IS MAYBE WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME ADVANTAGES TO SLOWING DOWN JUST A BIT AND MAKE SURE ALL YOUR PLANS ARE IN PLACE.
AND ON THOSE, ON THOSE TREES ALSO, YOU SAID THAT THAT, UM, UH, PARKS AS HAS, HAS INDICATED THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEMS THAT A FORMER COURT OF, UH, IN WRITING OR WAS THAT JUST, UM, HER, HER OPINION ON THAT WE WOULDN'T TYPICALLY PROVIDE, UH, A FORMAL REPORT ON THAT.
UH, SO WE TYPICALLY GROUP APPLICATIONS AND OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE.
SO IT'S A, A COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE, UM, WE WILL, UH, PRESENT AN APPLICATION AND EACH DISCIPLINE PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THAT.
AND, UM, AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE PROCESS, I'LL, UH, DIRECT SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD BECAUSE I KNEW IT WAS A, UH, A POINT OF IMPORTANCE, UH, NOT ONLY FROM MR. WHITEHEAD, BUT FROM OTHERS.
SO WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE CLARIFY THAT AND, AND JANET SAID, WELL, DID CONFIRM THAT SHE BELIEVES THAT THOSE COULD BE PRESERVED.
UM, THE APPLICATION IS 4 31 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
SO THERE WOULD BE NO SUBLEASING, A PARTIAL OF THE TOWNHOMES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED.
WOULD THAT BE A TOWN REGULATION OR IS THAT JUST SIMPLY THE HOA REQUIREMENT? SO THE TOWN COULD NOT, UM, PROVIDE REGULATIONS, UH, ADDRESSING WHETHER THEY'RE, UM, OWNERSHIP OR, OR RENTAL.
AND IN THIS CASE, THAT'S, UH, TOWNHOMES WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS B SYMBOL OWNERSHIP.
BUT IF A FURTHER REGULATION IS DESIRED BEYOND THAT, THAT'S REALLY MORE IN THE DEVELOPER.
TH THE THING, THE REASON I'M ASKING IS WHAT STRUCK ME WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE PLANS AND MAYBE IT'S, CAUSE I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT PURCHASING ANY TOWN HOME A LONG TIME.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEW DESIGNS ARE, BUT HAVING THE FIRST FLOOR BEDROOM SEEMED TO ME A PRIME OPPORTUNITY TO SUBLEASE A BEDROOM, UH, TO NON-FAMILY MEMBERS.
UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU SAID PARTICULAR USUALLY USE FOR OFFICES, UM, BUT IT COULD STILL BE A VERY CONVENIENT DEAL.
THE OLD BEDROOM OVER THE GARAGE CONCEPT ON THIS ONE IS ON THE SAME LEVEL AS THE GARAGE.
UM, AND SO I JUST WAS QUESTIONING AS TO WHETHER THAT USE WOULD BE ALLOWED ON OUR TOWN REGULATIONS, OR THAT WOULD BE AN HOA REQUIREMENT THAT THOSE BEDROOMS COULD NOT BE SUBLEASED TO NON-FAMILY MEMBERS.
SO THE, THE TOWN DOES REGULATE, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS, UM, BASED ON, UH, ONGOING, UH, UH, CASES RELATED TO REGULATION SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
OUR POSITION IS THAT, UH, MUNICIPALITIES CAN NOT OUTRIGHT BAN SHORT-TERM RENTALS, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY REGULATE THEM.
UM, SO WE'VE, UH, ADOPTED STANDARDS, UH, UH, PROVIDING RESTRICTIONS.
LIKE THEY CAN'T BE USED AS A PARTY HOUSE LIMITATIONS IN TERMS OF, UH, CARS BEING PARKED OCCUPANTS.
THEY HAVE TO REGISTER WITH THE TOWN, UM, AS FAR AS, UM, UH, ADOPTED PROVISIONS THAT, UH,
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UH, GEARED TOWARDS A LAW PROHIBITING THEM, THAT WOULD BE ONCE AGAIN MORE IN THE DEVELOPERS COURT, UH, AND THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY ADOPT, UH, THE PRIVATE RESTRICTIONS AND MY CONSERVATIVE, NOT NECESSARILY SHORT-TERM, BUT LONG-TERM RENTALS, WHICH EXACERBATES THE PARKING ISSUE, THAT IF THEY'RE DALLY THIRD OR FOURTH CAR ON A ASSOCIATED WITH A PARTICULAR UNIT, THEN THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PARK EITHER IN THE VISITOR'S PARKING SPACES OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, UH, UH, WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY.SO IT'S GETTING THAT, THAT CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD THAT SHORT-TERM, OR LONG-TERM HULU IS NOT WHAT'S BEING PERMANENT HERE, UM, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, A, A DISINGENUOUS USE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS COMMUNICATED, BUT TO THAT POINT, I THINK IF ANYTHING, IF ONE IS CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING NOT ENOUGH PARKING AND IT'S CONCERNED ABOUT THAT ISSUE, I THINK THAT IN ITSELF WOULD MAKE THE VIABILITY OF THAT TYPE OF RENTAL, UH, LESS ATTRACTIVE, UH, FOR ME, IF I'M GOING TO RENT A BEDROOM IN SOMEONE'S HOUSE AND I DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED PARKING SPACE, I'M PROBABLY NOT GOING TO RENT THERE.
IF THERE IS AN OVER SUPPLY OF PARKING.
I THINK THAT MAKES THAT, UH, A MORE ATTRACTIVE BUSINESS MODEL.
THERE'S SOME SEMI I'VE BEEN VOICE BY A COUPLE OF THE INSURANCE ON THE TIMING.
UM, CAN YOU GIVE US SOME DETAIL ON WHEN YOU THINK THE SAM SLIP STUDY WOULD BE OUT? UM, AND HAVE YOU HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT AS FAR AS WHAT ANY FURTHER DELAY WOULD CREATE OR SHOULD WE WAIT UNTIL THEY HAVE ON FOR THE SAM'S CLUB STUDY? I I'D SAY WE'RE STILL AT LEAST TWO MONTHS OUT.
UM, I'M TRYING TO GET A MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE TO, UH, WRAP UP, UH, REMAINING REFINEMENTS FOR THEIR, UM, UH, PRIMARY GOALS AND POLICY OBJECTIVES THAT WOULD REALLY SERVE AS THE BACKBONE OF THAT PLAN.
UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT.
SO I THINK REALISTICALLY, WE'RE PROBABLY AT LEAST A COUPLE OF MONTHS OUT, UM, THE APPLICANT AND HE CAN SPEAK TO IT AS WELL, BUT HE DID SHARE WITH ME THAT, UH, GIVEN THE STATUS OF HIS CONTRACT ON THE PROPERTY, UM, HE'S OUT OF TIME, UH, THEY DO NOT PURCHASE LAND SPECULATIVELY WITHOUT ZONING.
SO, UH, IF THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO OBTAIN ZONING, UH, THEY WOULD, UH, UH, UH, NO LONGER PURSUE THIS PROJECT, BUT THEY CAN, THEY CAN ADDRESS THAT.
ANYONE ELSE? ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS? OKAY.
IF NONE, UH, I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.
UH, WE HAVE BEEN, WE RECEIVED FOUR OR FIVE REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUES OR ANYONE ON LINE THAT WE SHOULD WORRY ABOUT CAN, AS FAR AS PUBLIC, I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE.
UH, I'M GOING TO CALL ON THESE IN THE ORDER THEY WERE GIVEN TO ME.
THEY WERE LOOKED AT A MOTHER IS MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ALL FILLED OUT AS YOU STEP FORWARD.
UM, OR WOULD YOU LIKE THEM TO GET ON THE PODIUM OR, UH, PODIUM WORKS AND THERE'S A MIC SET UP, PLEASE COME UP AND SPEAK, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
SO THE FIRST ONE I HAVE IS, UH, ALEX KUTCHAN.
KEVIN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TONIGHT AND COMMISSIONERS.
I'M GOING TO ALLOW, UH, STEVE GRIGGS TO TAKE MY PLACE UP ON THE STAND.
AND MR. CHAIR, WILL YOU BE HAVING THE, UH, APPLICANT PRESENTS FOLLOWING THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY.
I NEED A MICROPHONE OR EITHER VOTING PLACE.
UH, THE ATTORNEY FOR VVI, INC, WHICH IS THE OWNER OF THE ADJACENT TRACT TO THE SOUTH AND WEST OF THE PROPOSED PROPERTY, UH, AND VVI OWES APPROXIMATELY 8.167 ACRES, WHICH COULD BE A 20% OR MORE OF THE ADJOINING LAND OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STAY WITH A 200 ADDRESS, PLEASE.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS 64 40 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, SUITE FIVE 15, DALLAS, TEXAS 75, 2 0 6.
AND THE ADDRESS FOR VVI INCORPORATED, THE ADJOINING LANDOWNER IS 1 4 8 3 3 MIDWAY ROAD, ADDISON, TEXAS.
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BUT PRIMARILY THE MAIN ISSUE FOR VVI INCORPORATED IS GOING TO BE THE ACCESS AND UTILITY EASEMENTS THAT, UH, THEY ARE THE HOLDERS OF THAT CURRENTLY RUN, UH, UH, ALONG THE 24 FEET, 24 FOOT BOUNDARY ALONG THE, UH, ALL THREE SIDES OF THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY, UH, VI HAS NOT BEEN CONSULTED, UH, AS FAR AS HOW THIS EASEMENT'S GOING TO BE ALTERED.AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS, I KNOW THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DOES INCLUDE, UH, POSSIBLE STREETS, UH, BUT THERE ALSO ARE MOTORIZED GATES THAT ARE INVOLVED AND WE HAVE A BIG CONSULTED ON HOW THE, UH, THE EASEMENT IS GOING TO LOOK AFTER THIS, UH, AS TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN NO AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTIES AS TO THE, THE FUTURE USE OF THE EASEMENT, THE COSTS, UH, THAT WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR, UH, THE, THE COST AND MAINTENANCE OF THAT EASEMENT.
UH, THE DEVELOPER HAS ALSO REQUESTED, UH, FROM VVI INCORPORATED EASEMENTS, UH, TO ACCESS UTILITIES, WATER DRAINAGE, ACROSS BVIS ADJOINING PROPERTY.
AND WE HAVE NOT REACHED AN AGREEMENT ON ANY OF THOSE EASEMENTS AS WELL.
UH, ANOTHER ISSUE THAT VVI HAS, UH, THAT I BELIEVE HAS ALSO BEEN RAISED AT THE MEETING TONIGHT IS THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
WHEN THE, UH, THE HOTEL WAS AT BUSINESS, THERE, THERE WERE ISSUES WITH PARKING, UM, PEOPLE FROM THE HOTEL PARKING ON BVIS PROPERTY THAT EITHER HAD TO BE TOWED OR MOVED.
UM, WE'RE JUST NOT SURE IF THE 18 SPOTS IS GOING TO ACCOMMODATE 18 VISITORS POSSIBLE ACCOMMODATE 31 UNITS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS.
AND IF NOT, THE EASY ALTERNATIVE IS FOR THOSE PEOPLE TO START PARKING ON BVIS PROPERTY WERE ALREADY ON THE WEEKENDS, VVI PROPERTY AT NIGHTS, WEEKENDS, EVENINGS, AND GETS PRETTY BAD BUSY AS IS WITH IN SUPPORTING THE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE.
THE PROPOSED STREET APPEARS THAT WOULD BE ALONG THE WESTERN BORDER OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, WE HAVEN'T BEEN CONSULTED AS FAR AS ANY CUT-THROUGH IMPACT THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT STREETS NATURALLY WOULD APPEAR THAT PEOPLE COMING IN OUT OF THE TOWN HOME MAY TRY TO USE THAT STREET TO CUT THROUGH BVIS PROPERTY.
WE'RE NOT SURE HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR PROPERTY, BUT OVERALL, UH, VVI HASN'T BEEN CONSULTED WITH ANY OF THESE, UH, ANY OF THESE OPTIONS.
AND WE HAVEN'T REACHED AN AGREEMENT ON ANY OF THESE PROPOSED, UH, PLANS.
SO WE WOULD REQUEST THAT, UH, THE PARTY THAT THIS BE TABLED TO ALLOW FOR THE PARTIES TO TRY TO REACH AN AGREEMENT ON THAT, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, UH, AND ALSO FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THE ENTIRE SAM'S CLUB AREA STUDY THAT APPEARS TO BE FORTHCOMING AND HOW THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE SAM'S CLUB AREA STUDY WILL IMPACT, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OR BVIS PROPERTY AS WELL.
I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE SHE WAS ASKED QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION.
UM, I WOULD, UH, UH, CONTINUE WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS AT THE CONCLUSION.
AND THE NEXT ONE THAT I HAVE IS MARVIN PEREZ, PLEASE COME FORWARD, RESTATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.
I THINK YOU GAVE ME REPEAT IT AGAIN.
MY ADDRESS IS 1 4 8, 9, 9 TOWN LAKE CIRCLE.
SO I'M A NEIGHBOR OF OURS FRIENDS THAT ARE HERE TOO.
I THINK MY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS, KEN, IF WE COULD GO TO THE SLIDE WHERE YOU HAVE THE BUFFERS.
AND YOU STATED CORRECTLY THAT THE SAM'S CLUB COMMITTEE HAD INDICATED A BUFFER OF A HUNDRED FEET.
AND I JUST WANT SOME CLARITY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT, I THINK IT'S A 118 FEET BUFFER ZONE.
WE'RE INCLUDING THE ROAD THAT'S IN, UH, TOMMY CYCLE CIRCLE.
AM I CORRECT? SO IN REALITY, IT'S WAY LESS THAN 118
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FEET, CORRECT.AND AGAIN, THAT IS CONTRARY TO THE COMMITTEE'S SUGGESTION, AND I KNOW IT WAS JUSTIN AND YOU CLEARLY INDICATED THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE PLANNING ZONING COMMITTEE WILL HAVE INPUT TO THESE.
BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THAT IS, SEEMS TO ME SHORTER OR NARROWER THAN WHAT WE HAD RECOMMENDED.
THAT'S ITEM NUMBER ONE ON ANOTHER COMMENT.
AND I THINK I NEED, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN CLARIFY THIS FOR ME.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THE MASONRY WALL WAS EVENTUALLY GOING TO BE ELIMINATED IF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT MED CONTINUES.
NEVER, NOT, NOT THE TOWN LAKE MASON.
VERY WELL, NOT THE TOWEL LATER.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WALL IS PROPOSED WITH THIS PROJECT PACKET THAT WILL STILL BE THERE.
THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT I WILL SHARE ONE ITEM PERTAINING TO, UH, I THINK ONE OF THE NUMBER OF THE COMMISSIONERS BROUGHT UP AND NANCY BROUGHT IT UP ALSO TO HERSELF.
IN TERMS OF HOA, THE HOA HAS THE POWER TO PRODUCE GOVERNING DOCUMENTS THAT RESTRICT WHO PARTS AND THE COMMUNITY, HOW MANY VISITORS PARKINSON THERE, WHAT TIMES THEY CAN PARK THEIR RENTERS LONG-TERM AS WELL AS SHORT-TERM.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT A PROFESSIONAL COMPANY THAT KNOWS GOVERNING DOCUMENTS AS WELL AS RULES AND REGULATIONS IS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE THAT THESE GOVERNING DOCUMENTS ARE FULFILLED, ESPECIALLY THE CONCERN OF SHORT TERM RENTALS, LIKE AIR BNB.
WE ALL KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE HOA CAN CONTROL.
NEXT I HAVE IS, AND SET US FORWARD.
RESTATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.
CAN YOU HEAR HIM? MY NAME IS ANN SODA THEN AT 39, 19 WINTER PARK AND ADDISON.
UM, I'M IN MID MIDWAY MEADOWS.
UH, ALSO, UH, I'VE SERVED TWO TERMS ON PLANNING AND ZONING, SO IT'S KIND OF GOOD TO BE BACK.
AND, UH, AFTER I WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING, I SERVED TWO TERMS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL.
WE'RE TALKING A WHILE AGO AT ANY RATE OF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING, UH, AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH STOOD OUT MORE PARKING OR TRAFFIC ON BELTWAY.
UH, BUT I, I JUST I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH PARKING, BUT IF YOU GO VISIT SOMEBODY, UM, AND I, I ENVISIONED, YOU KNOW, ON THE WEEKENDS WHEN PEOPLE, EVEN WITH FRIENDS COME OVER AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM, I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION, BUT IT IS A CONCERN.
UM, NOW IS THE, THE ACCESS TO GETTING TO ENTERING IT AND ALSO GETTING OUT IS TOTALLY ON THE BELTWAY.
IS THERE ANY WAY FROM THE, FROM THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT TO GET OUT ON MIDWAY? NO.
MA'AM THE SAME CONDITION THAT WAS IN PLACE WITH THE, THE HOTEL USE AS WELL.
IS THAT A YES OR A NO ON MIDWAY WITHOUT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY? NO, THEY STILL HAVE .
I THOUGHT THERE WAS NO PARKING ON BELTWAY.
IS THAT, COULD THAT BE ENFORCED OR COULD THAT BE SUGGESTED THERE IS EMBARKING ON BELTWAY AND YES, IT COULD BE IT FOR SURE IS AT THIS POINT, NO PARKING LOT BELTWAY.
AND ALSO I TOO AGREE THAT THE TREES SHOULD NOT BE DESTROYED.
SO REALLY I'M JUST KIND OF, MY CONCERNS ARE THE SAME THAT I HEAR YOU ALL TALKING ABOUT.
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AND THE LAST ONE THAT WE HAVE IS A LIN JARKKO DARKO THAT YOU'VE COME FORWARD, RESTATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, WHICH HAS NOT UNINFORMED HI EVERYONE.I LIVE IN 4, 1 5, 5 DOWN GREEN CIRCLE, UH, IT'S TOWN, LAKE TOWNHOMES, AND MOST EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE HAS MENTIONED ABOUT, UM, PARKING, UH, CHALLENGES ALONG THE BELTWAY.
UM, THE ONE THING THAT HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT UP IS SOMETHING THAT I HEARD AT THE FEBRUARY 1ST MEETING.
AND THAT WAS THAT THE, UM, UH, THE BUILDER, UM, HAS WANTS TO START THIS IN Q4 OF 22.
AND DURING THE SAME TIME THAT THAT'S GOING ON, WE'RE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION ON MIDWAY AND THAT JUST ADDS TO CONGESTION AND ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.
SO ALONG WITH THE SAME LINES OF LET'S WALK BEFORE WE RUN, I SUGGEST THAT WE WAIT ON THAT AS WELL.
THAT'S ALL THAT I HAD SIGNED UP.
NOT ONLINE, SO NO ONE ELSE NOW CLOSED PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING.
AND I BELIEVE THE AFRICAN IS PRESENT.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD, COMMENTS OR PRESENTATION.
UH, HELL HAD ONE JOSH NICHOLS, I'M WITH COLDWELL HOMES, UH, 68 38, STEPHANIE DRIVE DALLAS, TEXAS.
UH, FIRST OFF, THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR HEARING THIS, UM, NOT WISH TO PRESENT A CANDIDATE, DID A GREAT JOB AND THEN GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO, I GUESS, TRY AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP.
IF I MISS SOMETHING, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO LET ME KNOW.
BUT AS FAR AS THE TIMING OF APPLICATION GOES, YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY STARTED THIS PROCESS BACK WITH, UH, WILSON, CURRENT OLGA IN DECEMBER OF 2020.
UM, OUR FIRST WHOLE MEETING WAS I THINK JUST BEFORE THE NEW YEAR OF 2020.
AND, UM, WE BELIEVE IN A SITE, WE THINK IT'S PERFECT FOR OF WHAT WE DO.
UM, WE WERE ADVISED, UH, SHORTLY AFTER THAT, ABOUT THE ONGOING SAM'S CLUB STUDY.
SO WE DECIDED TO POSTPONE, YOU KNOW, PUSHING FORWARD THE PLANS UNTIL IT WAS RESOLVED AT THE TIME, UH, WE WERE TOLD IT WOULD BE A SUMMER 2021 EXPECTATION, UM, AS IT'S KIND OF PROGRESSED FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE CONTRACT BUYER FOR THE SITE.
UH, WE WILL BE CLOSING ON IT WITH ZONING APPROVAL.
THE CURRENT OWNER DECIDES YOU GUYS KNOW IT, HASN'T A PROPERTY THERE SINCE 2018 AND WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO GET ZONING FOR SOMETHING, THE SITE IS UNDEVELOPED.
UM, AND SO THE CURRENT OWNER IS, IS, UM, HE'S BEEN VERY PATIENT THIS PROCESS, AND I THINK HE'S KIND OF RUNNING AROUND PATIENTS, UM, BECAUSE HE DOES WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ON HIS SITE.
AND SO WE HAVE GONE THROUGH, UH, THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR OVER A YEAR NOW.
UM, WE'VE MET WITH, UH, STAFF A NUMBER OF TIMES.
UM, WE WENT TO THE SAM'S CLUB, UH, HEARING WAS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC, UM, BACK TOWARDS THE END OF LAST YEAR.
UM, AFTER THAT WE INCORPORATE THE FEEDBACK FROM THAT STUDY, UH, SUBMITTED A REVISED PLAN, INCORPORATED FEEDBACK FROM STAFF, A NUMBER OF TERMS, UM, WENT FORWARD WITH A MEETING WITH RESIDENTS, WHICH I THINK THERE WERE 40 SOME ODD PEOPLE THERE.
UM, AND THAT WAS A VERY GOOD MEETING.
UM, WE SINCE INCORPORATE SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FROM THAT, UH, TO ADDRESS THE COMMENTS THAT HAD COME UP.
UM, SO WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF THE TIMING OF STAMPS CLIPS STUDY IS STILL BEING STILL BEING OPEN.
UM, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING DOES COMPLY WITH THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT IS FROM 2013, UH, AND DOES IT, DOESN'T MEET WHAT THE SAM'S CLUB STUDY HAS AS LAID OUT, UM, AS FAR AS WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO HEAR FROM STAFF AND HEAR FROM THE, FROM THE MEETING.
SO JUST TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME UP FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM PEOPLE HERE AND FROM, UH, FROM, UH, FROM YOU ALL.
SO AS FAR AS THE START WITH, I GUESS, FROM THE CONS FROM BBI, SO, UH, WE ALWAYS TRY TO
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BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, AND THIS IS NO EXCEPTION.UM, MR. MCCUTCHEON CAN CONFIRM THAT, YOU KNOW, I REACHED OUT A NUMBER OF TIMES BEFORE, UM, WITHOUT CONVERSATIONS AND, UH, BACK, UH, EARLY ON, HE ADVISED US THAT DUE TO OTHER ONGOING, UM, UH, ONGOING ITEMS WITH THE TIME TO ADDISON, HE WASN'T ABLE TO DISCUSS CERTAIN EASEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY AND WE UNDERSTOOD THAT.
AND SO WE ADVISED WE CHANGED OUR PLAN.
SO WAS NOT TO REQUIRE THESE EASEMENTS THAT I ORIGINALLY TALKED TO MR. MCCUTCHEN ON, UM, SPECIFICALLY ONE OF THE EASEMENT WAS A, EVEN FOR THE EXISTING STANDARDS TO RELY ON THE SERVICE OF HOTEL, THAT LINE IS THERE, IT SERVES TO MOTEL FOR WHATEVER REASON, BACK IN 1993, THERE WASN'T EVEN EVEN A GRANT FOR IT.
UM, IT WAS CERTAINLY IS CERTAINLY AN EASIER THING TO DO AND MORE COST EFFECTIVE FOR US TO USE THAT LINE.
UH, HOWEVER, IF THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ON THE EVENING, THAT'S OKAY TOO.
WE HAD AN ALTERNATE PLAN AND THAT'S WHAT WE, WE PRESENTED.
UM, THERE'S THE ACCESS UTILITY EASEMENT THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.
SO THIS ACCIDENT WAS, UH, WRITTEN 1993 AND IT WAS, UH, WRITTEN, CONTEMPLATE THIS EXACT SITUATION.
UH, JUST, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE, READ A PARAGRAPH FROM THE EASEMENT, UH, WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT A GRANTEE, WHICH WE'VE GOT IN THIS CASE UPON ACCEPTING THIS EASEMENT ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IT PASSES OVER AND CROSS PROPERTY OWNED BY THE GRAND TOUR, THE APPLICANT, OR THE CURRENT OWNER, UH, UPON WHICH MAY ULTIMATELY BE CONSTRUCTED, STRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENTS.
AND GRANTEE AGREES THAT THE EASEMENT HERE GRANTED SHALL BE AUTOMATICALLY RELEASED, DEMANDED BY GRANTEE UPON THE FILING FOR RECORD OR SUBDIVISION PLAT BY GRANTS OR SUCCESSORS IN SCIENCE SHOWING AND DEDICATING THE ALTERNATE ACCESS HAS BEEN GRANTED.
SO WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, WE ARE SHOWING AN ALTERNATE.
THE PURPOSE OF THE EASEMENT WAS PROVIDED ACCESS TO THE COMMERCIAL FROM BELWAY AND EASEMENTS.
WE WERE PROVIDED, WHICH IS A 39 FOOT EASEMENT ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY.
DOES THAT, UM, AS FAR AS CONSULTING, UH, BVI, UM, I REACHED OUT IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, UH, PROVIDING A DRAFT PLAN TO MR. MCCUTCHIN AND, UH, ACTUALLY REFERENCED THE SPECIFIC EVENT THAT WE'D BE GRANTED.
UM, WE WEREN'T AWARE OF ANY OBJECTION TO THIS UNTIL, UH, YESTERDAY, UM, PARKING.
SO THERE'S LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS ON, UM, ADDISON IN THE TOWNHOME PD DOES NOT EXPLICITLY STATE WHAT PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE.
HOWEVER, JUST FOR SOME REFERENCE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DEVELOPMENTS, WE DEAL WITH A LOT IN DALLAS AND ALSO ELSEWHERE WITHIN DALLAS AND FORT WORTH.
UM, THE GUEST PARKING THAT WE'RE PROVIDED HERE IS ACTUALLY MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT DALLAS FORT WORTH WOULD REQUIRE FOR A TIME LIKE THIS THAT'S DALLAS AND FORT WORTH, RIGHT? ADDISON HAS THEY'RE THEIR OWN SET OF RULES, AND THEY DO PREFER MORE ARGUING.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT ADDISON'S, UH, PARTNER WOULD BE FOR MULTI-MILLION PRODUCT OR THREE BEDROOM, MULTIPLE PRODUCTS, THIS PLAN ALSO PROVIDES MORE THAN WHAT THAT WOULD REQUIRE, UH, WHAT THERE'S TWO AND A HALF SPOTS PER HOME.
SO WHILE THERE'S NO WAY TO PERFECTLY DRESS EVERYONE'S CONCERNS ON PARKING, UM, WHAT PROVIDED, UM, FROM OUR EXPERIENCE AND ALSO FROM THE CODES THAT WE'VE WORKED ON, UH, SHOULD BE ADEQUATE.
UM, UH, VBI ALSO REFERENCED A CONCERN ABOUT THE PROPOSED STREETS AND CUT-THROUGH, UH, CANDIDLY, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THESE REDS BE CUTTING THROUGH.
UM, THE ENTRANCE IS INTENDED TO BE OFF THE BELTWAY, UH, WHICH IS WHERE THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS, AND THIS PROPERTY FRONTS ON TO BELTWAY.
UM, IT DOES NOT FRONT ONTO MIDWAY.
UM, AND SO I WOULD NOT EXPECT, UH, THAT RESIDENTS BE CHOOSING TO DRIVE THROUGH A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO GET TO THEIR HOME.
MOREOVER, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE ACTUALLY SUGGESTED THAT THE GATES ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, BE SET OF HOW ARE, UM, RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE ACCESS OBVIOUSLY THROUGH THOSE GATES, BUT A PREFERENCE WOULD BE FORCED AS MUCH ACTIVITY FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE OFF BELTWAY AS POSSIBLE.
UH, MR. PEREZ, UM, REFERENCED TO CONCERN ABOUT THE, THE GREENBELT AND BUFFER.
THIS WAS ONE, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING WITH STAFF ON, UM, THE SAM'S CLUB PLAN, UH, PRESENTATION.
I WENT TO ORIGINALLY, I DID PROPOSE A 50 FOOT BUFFER THERE.
UM, SUBSEQUENTLY I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE, UH, THE COMMITTEE DECIDED TO MOVE IT TO A HUNDRED FEET RECOMMENDATION.
UM, A HUNDRED FEET OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT WORK ON A PARCEL OF THIS BIG, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY WE ARE ALREADY DEDICATING, UH, WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BUFFER ON THE EAST SIDE AND 39 FEET ON THE WEST SIDE AND A PARCEL.
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AND SO WHAT WAS PROPOSED, UH, IS, UH, BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM RESIDENTS AND CONVERSATION WITH STAFF, JUST TO PROVIDE A REFERENCE POINT FOR WHAT'S THERE.UM, ANY OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN ON THE KATY TRAIL IN DALLAS, THE K TRAIL IN DALLAS IS GENERALLY BETWEEN 60 AND 70 FEET AND MOST PARTS.
UM, SO IT'S A BEAUTIFUL TRAIL.
UM, THERE'S CERTAINLY NOTHING IN ADEQUATE WIDTH OF THIS FOR A TRAIL.
UH, THERE ARE OTHER GREENBELTS WITHIN ADDISON THAT ARE A HUNDRED FEET.
UH, ALVIN, I BELIEVE MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE THEY'RE A HUNDRED FEET BECAUSE THEY'RE IN AN ELECTRICAL UNIT WITH, YOU KNOW, HIGH VOLTAGE POWER LINES THAT HAD A A HUNDRED FEET.
UM, SO WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN, THE WIT WE BELIEVE WITH PROVIDING WILL BE BEAUTIFUL TRAVEL AND, UH, IS CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE FOR, FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND THEN I BELIEVE THE LAST QUESTION OR COMMENT OR RELATE TO THE TREES MAKE NO MISTAKE.
OUR INTENTION IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TO REMOVE THOSE TREES LAWN BELTWAY.
THE ONE TREE THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED IS SOLELY BECAUSE THE CURRENT ACCESS IS WHERE THE GREENBELT IS IN ORDER TO MOVE THE ACCESS ANYWHERE FROM WHERE IT IS NOW, INEVITABLY, ONE OF THE TREES IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED.
SO, UM, THESE TREES ARE BEAUTIFUL.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE OF BENEFIT TO THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE.
UM, HOWEVER, I WOULD EXPECT THAT ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THIS LOCATION, WHATEVER IT IS, UH, WILL INEVITABLY HAVE TO MOVE AT LEAST THAT ONE TREE FOR ACCESS.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC ALONG THAT WAY.
LOOK WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC.
HOWEVER, I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE SPECIALIZE IN IS INFILL DEVELOPMENT, WHERE WE BUILD OTHER PARTS OF, OF, UH, EAST DALLAS OR BISHOP ARTS.
UM, AND SO OUR TEAM IS VERY ADEPT AT WORKING IN TIGHT SPACES.
IF THERE WAS ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S EVER GOING TO HAPPEN ON THIS SITE, I'M QUITE CONFIDENT THAT WHAT WE DO IN THIS PROJECT WOULD BE THE BEST BET AS IT RELATES TO TRAFFIC ALONG BELTWAY, DURING CONSTRUCTION.
AND THAT IS EVERYTHING, UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? UM, CAN YOU JUST TALK IN MY GUT TELLS ME YOU'RE NOT AT A POINT OF YOUR CCR, THEN THE HOA BEING DEVELOPED FOR THE SITE THAT YOU HAVE OTHER PROJECTS IN THE CITY THAT YOU'VE DONE.
DO YOU TYPICALLY ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT UP TONIGHT OF THE RENTAL? YOU KNOW, SHORT-TERM RENTALS, UH, PARKING ENFORCEMENT, THAT KIND OF THING YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT? YEAH, SURE.
WE, WE DO HAVE CCNRS AND IN, UH, ALL OUR DEVELOPMENTS, UH, SOMETHING WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH, UM, PARKING IS ALWAYS, ALWAYS AN ISSUE, ESPECIALLY AS I MENTIONED, DEVELOPMENTS IN PARTS OF DALLAS FORT WORTH, WHERE YOU HAVE LESS THAN HALF THE GUEST PARKING.
UM, SO RESTRICTIONS ON PARKING ARE ALWAYS CRITICAL AND THAT IS ACTUALLY INCORPORATED IN CCNRS.
UM, AS FAR AS, I GUESS, ACTUALLY I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON THE, ON THE RENTALS.
UM, BUT BEFORE I FORGET THERE, THERE WAS A COMMENT ON THE CONCERN ABOUT SUBLEASING, THE DOWNSTAIRS BEDROOM AT TOILET STAND.
THE CONCERN ABOUT APARTMENT GARAGES.
THE DOWNSTAIRS BEDROOM IS NOT A PRIVATE GARAGE.
THAT IS THE ROOM AND IT IS NOT A BIG ROOM.
NO ONE IS LIVING IN THAT ROOM AND HAVING THAT BE WHERE THEY LIVE 24 7, AND EVERY PERSON WHO GOES IN THAT HOUSE IS WALKING RIGHT BY THAT ROOM.
WHOEVER IS IN THAT ROOM, YOU BETTER LIKE THEM A WHOLE LOT.
SO JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, I DON'T, YOU CAN'T PREDICT WHAT PEOPLE DO.
THAT'S ONE THAT I DON'T EXPECT TO BE A, BE AN ISSUE.
UM, AS FAR AS THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS GO, UM, WE, WE HAVE IN OUR CCNRS, UH, LOOKED AT, UM, PROHIBITING SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
UM, AND WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, OTHER WAYS TO KIND OF ENFORCE THOSE THINGS.
UM, WE'VE WORKED, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO DOING THAT.
I THINK IN PRACTICE OF, OF ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE BUILT AND SOLD IN DALLAS.
AND AGAIN, WHAT WE, WHAT WE GENERALLY BUILD ARE NOT THE CHEAPEST PRODUCT THEY'RE HIRING, THEY'RE NICER.
UM, AND SO IT'S NOT THE PRODUCT THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING TO BUY A PRODUCT FOR AIRBNB, UM, OR FOR AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY HAVE BEEN PRIMARILY BUYING.
SO OF ALL THE PRODUCTS THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT RESTRICTION, I THINK WE'VE HAD ONE WHERE THEY DIDN'T AIRBNB, THAT WE WERE AWARE OF.
OF COURSE THERE COULD BE OTHERS THAT, THAT COULD HAVE DONE IT.
UM, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN PARTICULARLY COMMON.
UM, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE HURDLES FOR THIS COUNCIL, THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE CAN CERTAINLY ADDRESS.
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OTHER QUESTION IS PRICE POINT THAT I'VE SEEN SOMEWHERE THAT WE'VE WRITTEN MATERIALS LIKE FIVE SOMETHING, IS THAT A START PRICE OR IS THAT DEMANDS WERE LUMBER AND METAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE GO? UM, NO, ALL KIDDING ASIDE.IT IS, IT IS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO PRICE PRODUCT RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE ARE, WE ARE NOT LISTING ANY OF OUR PRODUCT FOR SALE UNTIL THEY ARE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED THIS POINT.
UM, AND THE REALITY IS WE JUST, WE CAN'T PREDICT IT.
WE HAVE LUMBER DOUBLE OR TRIPLE OVER THE COURSE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS.
UM, SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
I WOULD SAY IN, IN TODAY'S MARKET, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE HARD TO SEE, UH, PRICES STARTING, UH, MUCH LOWER THAN KIND OF THE MID FIVE HUNDREDS.
THESE ARE NOT SMALL DOMINOES, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER TOWNHOMES, OTHER DEVELOPERS WILL DO SMALLER PRODUCT.
WE'VE ALWAYS USED LARGER, UM, JUST BECAUSE IT FITS WITH THE NICER, BROADER NORTH END.
SO, UM, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, UH, WOULD I BE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FIVE 50 PRICE POINT IS WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE USED IN YOUR PROFILE, UH, PLUS PLUS OR MINUS A REASONABLE MARGIN? YES.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING ADDISON TO YOUR PATIENTS AND THE CHANGES YOU'VE ALREADY MADE.
I KNEW THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING, AND SO I JUST WANT TO RUN THIS BY YOU.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ADJACENT TO THE RESTAURANTS, RIGHT? RESTAURANTS SOMETIMES CAN CREATE PARKING ISSUES, 31 UNITS.
I HEARD YOU WHEN YOU SAID THAT RIGHT NOW YOU'VE GOT TWO AND A HALF TIMES THE PARKING MAYBE DALLAS FORT WORTH WOULD HAVE.
SO YOUR TYPICAL PROPERTY DOES USUALLY HAVE 18 GUEST SPOTS.
IS THAT MORE, IS THAT LESS, NO.
18 IS MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THE PROPERTY THAT WE BUILD EVERYTHING FROM, AS FAR AS WHERE, YOU KNOW, FROM SOMETHING AS SMALL AS EIGHT UNITS, UM, UP TO, YOU KNOW, 58, 18 GUEST SPOTS IS A LOT.
SO AS FAR AS THE RATIO, LIKE 31, YES.
SO IN, SO IN DALLAS OR FORT WORTH, UM, AND AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LOVE TO OVER PARK, UH, THE REALITY IS THAT LAND PRICES ARE EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH.
UM, SO WITHIN DALLAS AND FORT WORTH, WE ARE, WE'RE ALWAYS SIZING KIND OF TO THE MIDDLE OF A PARKING.
UM, AND, UH, THAT REQUIREMENT IS ONE SPOT FOR EVERY, FOR, UH, FOR US, I GUESS FOR ME, UM, A SEESAW TO TWO, UH, TWO GARAGE SPOTS.
UM, AND I WILL SAY THIS PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO LIVE IN TOWNHOMES ARE, UH, ARE PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND.
WE, WHEN PEOPLE COME TO BUY IN EAST, DALLAS IS VERY TIGHT.
PEOPLE COME AND THEY, THEY ACTUALLY TEST AND SEE THEY GET THEIR CAR INTO THE GARAGE AND THEY CAN FIT TWO CARS IN.
UM, IF YOU'RE LIVING IN A TOWNHOUSE, YOU GENERALLY DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF PARKING IN ONE CAR IN THE GARAGE AND ONE CAR SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE ARE ALSO GUILTY AS CHARGED WITH WHAT WE DO NOW ARE BOTH CARS IN OUR GARAGE AS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, UM, THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE TYPICALLY FIT TWO CARS IN THESE GARAGES.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE IT, BUT SOMEONE WHO'S BUYING THIS PRODUCT UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO CONSIDER.
SO I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.
SO THE PROPERTY IS SORT OF UNIQUE IN THAT IT IS IN A COMMERCIAL AREA SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL.
SO WHEN YOU GET STARTED ON THE PROJECT, IF YOU GET STARTED ON A PROJECT, WHEN, WHAT MIGHT THAT BE, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO COMPLETE AND HOW DISRUPTIVE IS IT FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN? UH, SURE.
SO, UM, AS FAR AS WHEN WE CAN START THAT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW QUICKLY WE CAN GET THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR PERMITTING.
WE ARE NOT THE DEVELOPER WHO BUYS LAND, PERMITS IT AND SITS ON IT.
THAT DOES NOT WORK FOR OUR BUSINESS MODEL AT ALL.
UM, OUR, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THE PROCESS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE THROUGH PERMITTING.
UM, SO WE DON'T DRAG OUT THE PROCESS LONGER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE.
UM, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, HOW WE DEVELOP IT AGAIN, MOST OF WHAT WE DO IS IN PHILADELPHIA AND, UH, THE WAY THAT WE ARE SET UP, WE ARE SET UP WHERE OUR EXPECTATION IS TO BUILD IT IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY POSSIBLE.
UM, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BUILD ONE STREET, ONE ROAD TOWNHOUSES, SECOND STREET, SAME RIGHT.
TOWNHOUSES THAT BECOMES MORE EFFICIENT.
IT CAUSES MORE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO THE EXPECTATION IS WE WOULD COME IN, WE WOULD DO ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE UPFRONT.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY PHASE CONSTRUCTION, UM, ROLLING SUBS FROM UNIT TO UNIT BUILDING THE BUILDING.
UM, SO IT'S NOT, I KNOW THERE'S OTHER TONGUE DEVELOPMENTS AND ASKED HIM, I'VE TAKEN
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AN EXCEPTIONALLY LONG TIME FROM START TO FINISH.UH, THAT'S NOT HOW WE, THAT'S NOT HOW WE TRIED TO BUILD.
UM, SO IT SHOULD BE A FAIRLY REASONABLE TIMEFRAME.
UM, AS FAR AS, UH, THE TIMELINE FOR THESE DEVELOPMENTS, UM, THIS ALSO GOES TO THE COMMENT ON WHERE THE, WHERE THE MARKET IS, WHERE LABOR AND EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, TRADITIONALLY, UM, IT HAS, IT HAS TAKEN.
AND AGAIN, DALLAS, I IMAGINE US, IT MIGHT BE A WHOLE QUIVER TO GET THROUGH THE SITE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IN DALLAS, UH, IT HAS TAKEN SIX MONTHS TO KIND OF GET THROUGH SITE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND THEN THE, AND IN THE TIMEFRAME FROM FOUNDATION, UH, FOR, FOR A STICK OF TOWNHOMES FROM FOUNDATION TO COMPLETION, UM, HAS RANGED BETWEEN NINE MONTHS AND 14 MONTHS.
UH, RIGHT NOW IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO PROJECT THAT BECAUSE, UM, EVERY SUBCONTRACTOR IS SHORT ON LABOR.
OBVIOUSLY WE TRY AND BUILD IT AS FAST AS WE CAN OBVIOUSLY DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY AND SAFELY, BUT WE DON'T TRY AND DRAG OUT THE PROCESS.
UM, SO START TO FINISH IN THIS PROJECT AND THEN WE FACE, WE FACE DECKS.
YOU KNOW, I THINK OUR GOAL WOULD BE, UM, AND TO DO IT WITHIN 24 MONTHS, 24, 30 MONTHS, UM, KIND OF START TO FINISH.
UM, AND THEN YOU ASKED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC DISRUPTION, DISRUPTION ON TRAFFIC.
SO, UM, THERE WAS, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME IN, UH, BEFORE ABOUT, UM, IMPACT ON TRAFFIC WITHIN BELTWAY.
SO, UM, HISTORICALLY IN MUCH TIGHTER DEVELOPMENTS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NEVER, UH, HAD TO CLOSE DOWN A LANE OR STREET, EXCEPT FOR WHEN WE WERE DOING INFRASTRUCTURE WORK IN THAT RIGHT WAY.
UM, ABSENT THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP EVERYTHING OFF THE STREET AND IN AGAIN, IN MUCH TIGHTER, MUCH TIGHTER DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, IN THIS CASE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN BELWAY, UH, CONSISTS OF A, UM, AN 18 INCH RCB, WHICH THE TOWN HAS REQUESTED TO, UH, ESSENTIALLY TAKE RUNOFF THAT IS ALREADY FLOWING FROM THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OUT OF THE X WILL BE THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ONTO BELTWAY.
UM, AND THE TOWN DOES NOT LIKE IS FOR NOT TO HAVE SHEET FLOW INTO RIGHT AWAY.
SO PART OF THIS PROJECT IS TAKING A, UH, FOR STORMWATER IN 18 INCH PARSON P TO, UM, TO TAKE THAT, UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE ONLY OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE WORK WOULD BE THE SANTOS SEWER CONNECTION WITH WHICH WOULD MAKE THEM BELTWAY.
UM, AND OTHER THAN THAT, THAT IS IT, UH, THE TEENAGE WATERLINE, I BELIEVE I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE IS ACTUALLY NOT IN THE PHYSICAL STREET POTENTIALLY AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE WHERE THE CIVIL ENGINEERS, WE DID BEST BUY, BUT MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS COULD BE AN IMPACT.
UM, BUT REALLY OTHER THAN THOSE RIGHT AWAY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE STREET, YOU KNOW, OUR EXPECTATION IS WE WOULD NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, ANY LANES CLOSED ANY ADDITIONAL IMPACTS ON THE TRAFFIC, UH, QUESTION.
UM, AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I'M GOING BACK TO PARKING, UM, BUT IN YOUR HOA DOCUMENTS, TYPICALLY, DO YOU ADDRESS, UH, PARKING, LIKE ON THE INTERIOR, THOSE PARKING SPACES, THOSE OPEN PARKING SPACES, LIKE, UM, HOW LONG CARS CAN BE PARKED THERE, YOU KNOW, 24 7? YES.
AND THEN WHAT TYPE OF LANGUAGE, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE RESERVED FOR GUEST GUEST SPOTS.
SO, UM, SO AGAIN, PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM MAKING THAT A PERMANENT SPOT, UH, FOR, FOR THEIR CAR.
UM, AND ALSO AGAIN, LIMITING OVERNIGHT PARKING.
I FORGET WHAT THE TYPICAL IS, BUT USUALLY WE ALLOW FOR IT FOR EXTENDED, YOU KNOW, WEEKEND VISIT TYPE THING.
UM, AND THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT THERE IS AN ASSOCIATION MANAGER, UM, THAT ENFORCES THESE AT THE END OF THE DAY.
IT DOES, UH, IT DOES BECOME INCUMBENT ON THE RESIDENCES TO, TO NOTIFY.
UM, BUT HAVING HOA MANAGER MAKES IT WHERE PEOPLE DON'T END UP CONFRONTING EACH OTHER, OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOOD FOR NEIGHBORS TO COOPERATE, BUT CONFRONTATIONS HELP WITHOUT A MANAGER TO GET STUCK IN.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IT IN YOUR DECLARATION OR SOMETHING THAT THERE HAS TO BE A THIRD PARTY AND WOULDN'T BE SELF-MANAGE FOR THE, FOR THE ASSOCIATION? YES.
UM, EVERY ASSOCIATION THAT WE'VE DONE IS THIRD PARTY.
I HAVE ONE OTHER FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR YOU, AND IT PROBABLY RELATES MORE TO YOU TO YOUR TIMING AND THE PRESSURE THAT YOU'RE FEELING.
AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION.
SO THE CURRENT LANDOWNER, MULTIPLE QUESTIONS IN HERE, ONE, HE IS COMPLETELY OUT.
YOU ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT LYING.
HE'S NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE LAND, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SECOND QUESTION IS THAT, IS HIS SENSE OF PRESSURING YOU TO NOT OFFER YOU AN EXTENSION OF YOUR EXISTING LOI THAT YOU HAVE OUT THERE? DO YOU THINK THAT, OR IS HE GIVING YOU REASONS?
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CAUSE HE'S GOT SOMEBODY LINED UP BEHIND YOU TO PAY MORE OR IS IT A HE'S GETTING INTO FINANCIAL TROUBLE AND HE COULD BE LOSING IT TO THE BANK, JUST BEEN SITTING VACANT FOR A VERY LONG TIME? CORRECT.I WOULD BE SPECULATING TO ANSWER THAT.
UM, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, YOU KNOW, WE, AGAIN PLACED THIS PROJECT IN OUR CONTRACT TOWARDS THE END OF 2020, AND THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE THAT WE OUTLINED, UM, WAS A MUCH MORE KIND OF A SHORTENED TIMEFRAME OF WHAT WOULD BE TYPICAL IF THERE WASN'T A SITUATION LIKE THE SAM'S CLUB STUDY HERE.
UM, AND HE WAS ACTUALLY, I THINK, VERY REASONABLE AND COOPERATIVE AND KIND OF GIVING US THE EXTENSIONS, UH, THROUGH THIS POINT.
UM, AT THIS POINT IT'S NOW BEEN 14 MONTHS.
UM, AND I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT FINANCIALLY, IT PROBABLY IS NOT GREAT TO HAVE THAT PROPERTY SITTING VACANT FOR FOUR YEARS, FOLLOW UP, FOLLOW UP.
UM, ARE YOU WILLING TO, ARE YOU WILLING TO SHARE WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE APPROACHED THE OWNER ON, UH, AN ADDITIONAL, UH, YES.
WE HAVE APPROACHED THEM IN RECENTLY.
WHAT IS THAT NEGATIVE CORRECT NEGOTIATION.
I HAVE A QUESTION MORE FOR KEN DIRECTED JUST TO HELP EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND.
AND I HOPE YOU HAVE THIS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
YOU'RE GOING TO CHALLENGE A LITTLE, HOW MANY TOWNHOMES ARE IN SOMETHING LIKE NEXT DOOR? I BELIEVE 63.
AND HOW MANY PARKING, HOW MANY VISITOR PARKING SPOTS DO THEY HAVE? 33 OR 34.
SO IT WOULD BASICALLY HALF THE UNITS AND HALF THE PARKING.
THIS PRODUCT IS PROBABLY HAS A SLIGHTLY BETTER RATIO BASED ON US.
I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION THAT COULD BE FOR YOU ARE THE DEVELOPERS, SINCE HE'S UP THERE WITH SOME TYPE NOW HAVING TO DO WITH THE, YOU MADE MENTION THAT THERE WOULD BE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE DEVELOPER ON, UH, UH, TAKING DOWN THOSE PERIMETER FENCES AT SOME POINT.
UH, MY QUESTION IS, I'M JUST CURIOUS ON WHAT YOU SEE AS PROBABLY TERMS AND PROVISIONS OF THAT AGREEMENT, WHERE THE CONTROL AND THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS, WHERE THAT WOULD BE HELD AT THIS POINT IN THE ZONING PROCESS.
I WOULD SAY IT'S STILL VERY CONCEPTUAL.
I THINK WE HAVE A SHARED UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, IF, UM, COMPLIMENTARY REDEVELOPMENT OCCURS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS PROJECT, AND WE THINK THE SAME AS CLUB STUDY, YOU CAN FACILITATE THAT.
UM, THEN IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
THE BIGGEST THING WE WANT TO AVOID.
SO THE SOUTHERN LIMIT IN THIS PROJECT THAT HAS AN ALLEY, IT HAS HOMES WITH GARAGE ACCESS ON THE NORTH SIDE.
WHAT I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE IS IF THERE IS A COMPLIMENTARY USE IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH, THEN HAVING TO BUILD ANOTHER ALLEY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS ALLEY.
SO IF, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, MORE TOWNHOMES OR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES WERE DEVELOPED THERE, IDEALLY THAT FENCE COMES DOWN AND THEY TAKE ACCESS OFF OF THAT ALLEY.
I JUST, JUST TO EXPAND ON THAT, UM, YES, THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR GOAL TO, UM, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, THIS ALSO FALLS UNDER THE CATEGORY OF BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
YOU KNOW, IF THE SAMPLE OF STUDY CONTEMPLATES RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BELOW THIS PROPERTY AS WELL, WHETHER THE SAM'S CLUB STUDY IS COMPLETE OR NOT COMPLETE, THE REALITY OF HAVING DISPARATE OWNERSHIP WITHIN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ALWAYS GOING TO EXIST.
SO, YOU KNOW, INCORPORATING THINGS THAT ALLOW THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO COOPERATE.
AGAIN, WE ARE, WE ARE ALL FOUR AND ALONG THOSE LINES, THE SOUTHERN, THE SOUTHERN, UH, UH, KNEW THAT THAT, UH, KEN WAS DESCRIBING, YOU KNOW, IF, IF ONE DAY, UM, THE VBI THAT DECIDES TO EITHER SELL OR DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY INTO RESIDENTIAL UNITS, THEY GET THE FREE USE OF THAT.
AND WE ARE, WE ARE AGREEING TO ESSENTIALLY, UM, HAVE IN THE BUCK RATIO AGREEMENT THAT THEY CAN USE THAT ALLEY, UH, FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT TOO.
UM, AND THAT, THAT'S NOT A SMALL THING THAT IS BENEFICIAL TO THEM.
IT IS SOMETHING THE TOWN WANTS BECAUSE YOU, AGAIN, WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE DOUBLE ALEX BACK TO BACK.
UM, BUT IT DOESN'T BENEFIT JASON OWNERS TOO.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALL FOR THAT.
SO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS RELATED TO SOME CONCERNS THAT BBI BROUGHT UP.
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UM, THEY INDICATE THERE THAT HAD NOT BEEN CONSULTED.UM, BUT YOU'VE INDICATED YOU HAD RUINED STAFF AND TERRIBLE TIMES, UH, WAS WHAT WAS THE REPRESENTATIVE BI AT ANY OF THE MEETINGS, THE FEBRUARY 1ST MEETING THAT YOU KNOW OF AND DID THEY RECEIVE NOTICE OF THAT? I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY ATTENDED.
UM, I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY RECEIVED NOTICE, WE, WE, THE TOWN SENT THAT OUT WITHIN SOME DOCUMENTED, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY HAD, THEY DID NOW THE, THE, THE EASEMENT AGREEMENTS.
UM, AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THOSE TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT THAT YOU'VE INDICATED THAT THERE'S AN AUTOMATIC AND I'VE BEEN READING THE EASEMENT, UM, AND IT SAYS THE FILING THEN SHOWING DEDICATED ALTERNATE ACCESS EASEMENT, AND YOU BELIEVE YOU'VE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED THAT, OR THAT IS YOUR PLAN.
W W W WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS AN ALTERNATE ACCESS EASEMENT THAT, UM, IS, I MEAN, OBJECTIVELY, UH, UH, I WOULD SAY MORE THAN SATISFIES THAT REQUIREMENT.
AND SO YOUR LAWYERS LOOKED THROUGH ALL THIS, AND THEY AGREE THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THE EASEMENT ONCE YOU'VE DONE THIS, WHAT'S IN HERE.
BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THEIR LAWYER INDICATE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME AGREEMENT ON AN EASEMENT.
UM, WELL, I WOULD SAY THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE OF EASEMENTS IN QUESTION.
SO, UH, GOING BACK TO AS EARLY AS EARLY 2001, UM, AND THEN ALSO MORE RECENT AS NOVEMBER OF 2001, UH, WE HAD REACHED OUT ABOUT A EASEMENT FOR THE EXISTING SANTERIA SEWER LINE.
UM, OUR, OUR VIEW WAS THAT IT WAS, UH, IT, THE LINE ALREADY EXIST.
IT WAS PUT IN TO SERVICE THE MOTEL, UM, FOR WHATEVER REASON THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NEASMAN THERE.
THAT WAS GRANTED AND THERE WASN'T.
UM, SO WE REACHED OUT TO SAY, HEY, IT'D BE EASIER TO USE THIS EXISTING LINE.
UH, IT IS ESSENTIALLY A, A NO COST, UM, PROVISION TO YOU.
UH, WE WOULD, UM, COVER ALL THE COSTS, UH, FOR THE EASEMENT.
UM, AND I THINK WE OFFERED $3,000 JUST FOR THEIR COOPERATION.
UM, AND WE SAID, YOU KNOW, IF THIS DOESN'T WORK, WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS A ALTERNATE METHOD.
IT'S JUST MORE EXPENSIVE FOR US.
UM, AND AGAIN, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAD WITH MR MCCUTCHEN WERE VERY CORDIAL AND POSITIVE, AND I UNDERSTAND HIS POSITION THAT HE WASN'T COMFORTABLE DISCUSSING THINGS, UH, ON HIS PROPERTY WHILE OTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH ASTRA WERE GOING ON.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE SPECIFICS OF THAT.
UM, SO WE MOVED FORWARD WITH A PLAN THAT DID NOT REQUIRE THAT EASEMENT, THE, THE ACCESS EASEMENT KIND OF GOES THE OTHER DIRECTION.
UH, THAT IS THE ACCESS EASEMENT IS NOT EVEN THAT WE NEED FROM THEM.
IT NEEDS ME THAT THEY HAVE ON THIS PROPERTY.
UM, AND AS WE DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, IS AN ALTERNATE ACCESS EASEMENT THAT, UH, OBJECTIVELY, AS FAR AS I THINK, ANY, AS FAR AS PLAYING THE, IN THE, IN THE PLAN AND THE DOCUMENT, UM, DOES SATISFY THAT REQUIREMENT.
SO HYPOTHETICALLY, IF PAID Z RECOMMENDS AND COUNCIL APPROVES, UM, YOU DON'T FORESEE THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD THEN JUST DIE ON THE VINE SIMPLY BECAUSE AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT CANNOT BE REACHED.
YOU BELIEVE THAT IT IS BASICALLY ALMOST ESSENTIALLY A DONE DEAL.
UH, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'LL DIE IN THE MINE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I DO WANT TO STRESS THAT WE ALWAYS STRIVE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO NOT BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
UM, SO, SO YES, WE INTEND TO OBVIOUSLY HAVE CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS, UH, WITH, WITH VBI AND THEIR TEAM.
UM, BUT YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN HOLD THIS PROJECT UP UNDER THE LANGUAGE I SEEN AS HE, NO.
UM, WHILE I WAS OUT ON THE SITE, I DID SEE PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH, THEY CAME UP ABOUT WAY AND WENT THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING PURCHASE.
AND THEN THERE IS A DRIVEWAY THAT GOES TO THE SOUTHERN BARKING LOT.
AND I THINK THERE'S SOME BIG OFFICE BUILDINGS BACK AT THE SOUTHERN END OF THAT PARKING LOT.
AND SO THERE WERE PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH TO THAT.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER MR. GRIGGS WAS REFERRING TO THAT AS A CUT THROUGH, BUT IF YOU COULD JUST REEMPHASIZE THAT ESSENTIALLY THE, THERE IS NO CUT THROUGH ABILITY.
COULD YOU EVER HAVE A FENCE ACROSS YOUR SOUTHERN EDGE? AND THE ONLY ENTRANCE IS ON THE EAST AND THEN THE OFF THE BELTWAY.
SO EVEN IF SOMEBODY WERE TO ATTEMPT TO CUT THROUGH, THEY CAN'T, THEY COULD GET OUT ON THE EAST SIDE, BUT THEY'VE GOT TO WAIT FOR THE GATE TO OPEN, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, THAT THAT IS CORRECT THE OWN.
THERE COULD BE RIGHT, OR A REASONABLE EXPECTATION WOULD BE THROUGH THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE ARE GRANTING TO THE TOWN AT THEIR REQUEST.
THAT HAS TO BE A CUT THROUGH BECAUSE OF THE EASEMENT THAT REQUIRES THAT THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE ACCESS FROM LV.
SO THE ONLY CUT-THROUGH IS TO THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION FOR CAN THIS APPLICATION, IN YOUR OPINION, HAS MET THE TOWN REGULATIONS AS FAR AS PARKING
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LANDSCAPE, ET CETERA.THE POWER OF A SAM STUDY WOULD BE THE POWER OF REGULATION, OR SIMPLY THE POWER OF SUGGESTION IS TO THE YOU'RE SAYING IT'S KIND OF LOOSE IN TERMS OF WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO HERE.
SO IS THIS KIND OF A RECOMMENDED PRACTICES THAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT AGREE TO ON SOME ASPECTS, AS OPPOSED TO THE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS THAT KIND OF ACEN HAS, OR WILL THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE ASPECTS OF THE STUDY? SO THE, THE STUDY IS, UH, SORRY, I HAVE A MIC ISSUE.
YOU WANT THIS ONE STUDY IS A POLICY.
UM, SO, UH, OUR MOST EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR IMPLEMENTING A POLICY IS ZONING REGULATIONS, FORCE PEOPLE TO DEVELOP PROPERTY IN A CERTAIN WAY THROUGH ZONING REGULATIONS, UM, WHERE PEOPLE ARE PROPOSING TO DEVELOP UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING.
WE HAVE LIMITED CAPACITY TO, UH, COMPEL, UM, CONFORMANCE WITH THE SAM'S CLUB STUDY, FORTUNATELY, AND UNFORTUNATELY, UM, UH, THE ZONING IN THIS AREA IS VERY OLD.
UH, THE FORTUNATE ASPECT OF THAT IS WHEN FOLKS LIKE JOSH OR OTHER PEOPLE, UH, SEEK, UH, TO DEVELOP IN THIS AREA ARE REDEVELOP, UH, LARGELY THEY NEED NEW ZONING TAKE YOU'RE LATE.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO PROPOSE A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
CAUSE THERE IS NO PERMITTED, UH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE STUDY AREA.
IF SOMEONE WAS SAY TO PROPOSE OFFICE AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, UM, AND THEY WANTED TO COMPLY WITH THE EXISTING ZONING, WE WOULD BE IN A WEAK POSITION TO, UH, UH, FULLY COMPEL CONFORMANCE WITH THE SAME SCOPE STUDY.
SO EVEN IF WE WAIT A MONTH, TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS FOR THIS DAY BE COMPLETE, UM, WHAT IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE ON THEIR REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS PROJECT? I DON'T BELIEVE, UH, ULTIMATELY, UM, BOTH THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL HAVE TO EVALUATE, UM, THIS, THE MERITS OF THIS PROJECT THROUGH WHERE WE ARE WITH THE SAM'S CLUB STUDY, WHETHER IT'S NOW OR, OR IN, UH, THE FUTURE.
UM, MR. PEREZ POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
THE COMMITTEE, UH, IS VERY MUCH PREFERRED A 100 FOOT BUFFER, UH, THAT IS NOT IN CONSIDERATION OF TOWN LAKE LAND AS WELL.
BUT WITH THAT SAID, THE COMMITTEE HAS, AND STAFF HAS ALSO HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ON WHETHER THAT'S VIABLE FOR ALL THE PROPERTIES.
SO ULTIMATELY PNZ AND COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE THAT JUDGMENT.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CHANGE BETWEEN WHERE THE COMMITTEE IS NOW AND WHERE THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN, UH, WHETHER IT'S THREE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD OR WHENEVER WHEN, UH, A, A, A TRUE RECOMMENDATION IS REQUESTED, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION.
I DON'T THINK THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY WILL CHANGE A WHOLE LOT.
SO THERE MAY BE OTHER PROPERTIES, UH, WHERE THAT CONSIDERATION, UM, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE FLUID, BUT THIS ONE, BOTH WITH THE 2013 CONFERENCE WITH PLANS THAT ARE GOING BACK ALMOST 10 YEARS NOW, UM, THE SAM'S CLUB STUDY, UM, THERE HAS BEEN A PRETTY CONSISTENT GUIDANCE THAT IT SHOULD BE, UM, THAT THE PREVIOUS USE IS NOT VIABLE.
AND IT'S GOING TO CHANGE AND USE CHARACTER AND DOES A LOWER DENSITY HOUSING PRODUCT WOULD BE A CORROBORATES.
I THINK, I THINK THIS ALIGNS WITH, WITH ALL OUR POLICIES, WHICH JUST TO BE CLEAR, AND THIS STATE DOES NOT, I'M DONE AS FAR AS THE APPLICANT COMING TO THOSE TONIGHT, THEY HAVE SATISFIED THE REGULATIONS AND THE POLICIES OF TOWN OF ADDISON, AND AS THINGS ARE RETURNED.
SO WITH THIS PROJECT, THEY'RE PROPOSING A PD.
SO THERE, THEIR PD IS ESTABLISHING THE REGULATION.
SO THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO DEVELOP UNDER EXISTING ZONING OR A DIFFERENT PD.
THEY'RE CREATING NEW REGULATIONS.
A LOT OF THOSE STANDARDS ARE BASED ON HOW WE'VE REGULATED SIMILAR TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT WITH TWEAKS THAT THEY MADE TO FIT THEIR PRODUCT, UM, WITH THE POLICIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ADOPTED.
I DO BELIEVE THEY MEET THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I DO BELIEVE THEY MEET THE INTENT OF THE CURRENT DIRECTION OF THE SAME CLUBS STUDY, BUT THEY, DON'T NOT PERFECTLY MEET EVERY ASPIRATIONAL GOAL OF THAT STUDY.
MOST NOTABLY HAVING A FULL 100 FOOT BUFFER ON THIS PROPERTY.
BUT AS YOU SAY, THAT'S THE CURRENT SUGGESTION SAM'S CLUB.
IT COULD CHANGE IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE.
I WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE THAT CHANGING, BUT THE, THE BALANCE OF THAT, UH, WHEN WE CONSIDER THE SAM'S CLUB STUDY IS THAT'S NOT
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THE ONLY POLICY GOAL, A VERY IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION THAT THE COMMITTEE PUT INTO PLACE WHEN WE CONSIDER HOUSING PROPOSALS, ONCE AGAIN IS TO FAILURE, LOWER DENSITY, UH, OWNERSHIP OPTIONS.SO IN MY MIND, I THINK YOU HAVE TWO COMPETING GOALS AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY CHUCK ASIDE ONE TO COMPLETELY FAVOR ANOTHER.
UH, I THINK THEY FOUND A, A POINT OF BALANCE IN MAXIMIZING THAT GREEN BELT, BUT NOT ACHIEVING THE A HUNDRED FEET, BUT BY PROVIDING A HOUSING TYPE THAT IS MORE FAVORED BY VARIOUS HEALTH POLICIES.
SO I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT THERE IS NO SAM'S CLUB STUDY.
NOBODY'S OUT THERE DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT.
I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMITTEE, THIS COMMISSION FOR COMING UP ON FOUR YEARS.
I CAN REMEMBER ONLY ONE OTHER TIME.
WHEN WE HAVE SPENT TWO HOURS TALKING ABOUT ONE PROJECT AND HAVING A ROOM FULL OF HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE HERE WITH THE NOTION THAT THEY GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS TOO.
SO THE IDEA THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, UM, WELL BAKED AND READY TO SERVE, UM, I THINK IT'S IN THE OVEN, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S READY TO SERVE.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS READY TO SERVE THERE'S AS MANY UNQUESTIONED UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, AS THERE ARE REASON TO CHECK THE BOX, NOT WITHSTANDING.
I'M SURE YOU GUYS WILL DO A BIG JOB WHEN YOU GET THE OPPORTUNITY.
I JUST THINK THAT THIS HAS BEEN A HEALTHY DIALOGUE, BUT IT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT WAS ON PEOPLE'S MIND.
THAT'S THE LAST THING I HAVE COMMISSIONERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR EVEN CANADA IS POINTING.
APPLICANT THAT I HAVE SOME COMMENTS JUST FOR THIS GROUP OF US VOTING HERE TO THINK ABOUT.
SO THE TOWN HAS NOT HAD VERY GOOD.
TELL US, I MEAN, IT'S CLEAR IT'S A PROBLEM IN THIS TOWN.
THEY ALL THE STUFF ALONG THE BELTLINE, THEY'RE NOT PAYING PEOPLE ARE STAYING THERE LONGER.
SO ABOUT THAT, THAT HOTEL, I DID SOME QUICK NUMBERS FOR YOU.
ONE OF THE HOTELS ON BELTLINE HAS A TAX BASE OF $1.3 MILLION TO OUR TAX BASE.
THE HAMPTON DOWN THE ROAD HAS A SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR TAX BASE TO HERE.
IF YOU USE A SINGLE FIVE 50 PURCHASE PRICE FOR THESE HOMES, THAT THIS PUTS THE TAX BASE UP TO $17 MILLION ON THAT PARCEL.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU GUYS REALLY GOT TO THINK ABOUT.
I MEAN, THIS IS, DOES HAVE AN ECONOMIC ASPECTS TO THE CITY THAT DO HAVE SOME POSITIVE IMPACTS.
I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE BETTER OR BEST MAYBE YOU USE FOR THAT PARTICULAR SITE.
IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT SITE THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH THAT, WITH WHAT THEY HAD TO WORK WITH.
JULIE, JOHN, ANYTHING CLOSE? ALRIGHT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? I'D LIKE TO MOVE? I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING OR WHEN CITY COUNCIL MEETS SO THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, TO REVIEW THIS.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT STILL NEED TO BE RESOLVED AND A LOT MORE CHECKS AS OPPOSED TO THAT'S HELPFUL.
SO CONCISELY, YOU REPEAT YOUR MOTION.
UM, I WANT THE MOTION TO TABLE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
UM, 1 8, 4, 6 DASH C 41 50 BELTWAY DRIVE PD REZONING, AND CLARIFICATION.
CAN, DOES THAT MOTION REQUIRE A SUPER MAJORITY? NO.
THE, SO THE SUPER MAJORITY REQUIREMENT WOULD MEET FOR YOU TO OCCUR.
UH, JUST ONE THING, IF I COULD ASK THE COMMISSION WITH THAT MOTION, IF YOU COULD PROVIDE, UH, I THINK YOU SPOKE TO IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT JUST FURTHER PROVIDE DETAIL AS TO WHY, UM, UH, THAT MOTION IS BEING MADE SO THAT THE APPLICANT CAN BENEFIT THAT AS WELL.
IF THERE'S THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO WORK ON, SPECIFIC THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO WORK ON IN THE INTERIM.
UM, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO HEAR, UM, THEY MAY, UM, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO THEM, UH, FOR
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THEM, UH, GIVEN WHAT THEY'VE COMMUNICATED THOUGH.I THINK IF IT'S THE DESIRE THAT COMMISSIONED THE TABLE, THEIR PROJECT, THEY, THEY MAY BE MORE FAVORABLE TO THEM FOR YOU JUST TO LEAN EITHER PROJECT, IF, IF THAT'S THE COMMISSION'S PREROGATIVE, BUT THAT'S ULTIMATELY YOUR DECISION.
SO I HEARD TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
CAN I HEARD THE ATTORNEY FROM MCCUTCHEON, GET UP HERE AND SAY EVERYTHING THAT HADN'T HAPPENED FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
AND I HEAR THIS YOUNG WOMAN GET UP AND SAY, EVERYTHING'S FINE.
WELL, IS EVERYTHING FINE? I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S OUR PLACE TO HAMMER OUT THOSE KINDS OF DETAILS AT THIS KIND OF MEETING.
SO I BELIEVE WHAT, WHAT BOTH SIDES ARE SAYING AND NO REASON NOT TO BELIEVE, BUT I WONDER SOME BIG QUESTIONS, NOTICE SOME BIG DISCREPANCIES.
SO HE GOES TO CAM'S POINT, YOUR MAIN CONCERN, AS FAR AS THE DELAY WOULD BE TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEMS, WHAT IT WOULD BE, EVERYTHING.
I THINK HE WANTS MORE THAN JUST EVERYTHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MAKING MOST.
AND WE'LL LEGAL REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN THE TWO COMPANIES.
THEY NEED TO SIT DOWN AND TALK IT OUT AND GET IN THE SAME ROOM AND RESOLVE THAT BEFORE THEY COME UP HERE AND SAY, ONE GUY SAYS ONE THING AND THE OTHER GUY SAYS ANOTHER.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE A PLACE THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT DOESN'T AFFECT OUR VOTING DECISIONS.
I MEAN, EITHER, IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH WHERE IT IS NOW, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE VOTE.
DIDN'T YOU SAY ACCEPTING WITH THAT REQUIREMENT IS THAT THE EASEMENTS ARE RESOLVED.
SO THERE'S A CONDITION, UH, UH, TO BOTH THE POINTS THAT WERE JUST DISCUSSED.
ULTIMATELY, THE COMMISSION IS HERE TONIGHT TO EVALUATE LAND, USE INSIGHT AGREEMENTS BETWEEN OR LACK OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, THEY'RE IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY THE TOWN'S BUSINESS.
AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN THAT BUSINESS.
IT'S IT'S STUFF THAT IS BETWEEN THEM.
IF THEY CAN'T WORK THROUGH THAT, THEY'RE NOT, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A PROJECT HERE.
I THINK THEY CAN WORK THROUGH THAT, BUT THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL WORK TO DO.
THIS IS VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS, UM, WITH, UH, EXCUSE ME, WHAT WAS THE SUBJECT QUESTION I SAID TO PASS THIS WASN'T THAT ONE OF THE REQUIRED.
SO THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE REQUIREMENT.
EVEN IF WE PASS IT TONIGHT, THE REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE RESOLVED, RIGHT? SO THE, THE CONDITION WE PUT IN PLACE WAS WE WOULDN'T ISSUE A BUILDING PERMIT UNLESS THAT WE RECEIVED WRITTEN CONFIRMATION FROM THE APPLICANT THAT THE EASEMENT IN QUESTION WAS RELEASED.
AND IT HAS TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND YOU ARE RECOMMENDING BODY THAT'S IN THE COUNCIL.
SO THEY ARE ALL HAVE ULTIMATE APPROVAL ALREADY.
HANDS UP, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
IS THERE A SECOND LACKING, SECOND MOTION IS DENIED, RIGHT? DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CASE 18 40 16, 41 50 BELTWAY DRIVE, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS LISTED.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR, INDICATE BY SAYING, AYE.
ALL OPPOSED AND GET BY SAYING NO, NO.
ANY ABSTENTIONS PASSES SIX TO SEVEN, I BELIEVE AT SIX .
I BELIEVE IN PASSENGER, THE SUPER MAJORITY REQUIREMENT AND MOVES ON TO COUNCIL.
THERE'S NO OTHER, IF THIS, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THAT SPACE.
IF IT, WITH IT GOING ON TO COUNCIL, IT WOULD NOT BE THE UPCOMING MEETING ON THE 22ND.
IT WILL BE THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER RESIDENCE, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR TONIGHT.