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PLANNING, ZONING COMMISSION, ANNUAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING, JANUARY 22 AT 5 32[1. Administer the Oath of Office to newly appointed Planning and Zoning Commission members.]
FIRST ORDERS OF BUSINESS.WELCOME JULIE BRANSON OR POIGNANT, ADDISON PLANNING, ZONING COMMISSION, COMMISSIONER.
UM, ARE, ARE YOU GOING TO, YES.
WELL, ALL OF YOU, YOU NEED TO STAND AND MR. DE FRANCISCO AND BOB CATALOG, EACH TIME YOU GET REAPPOINTED, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE STATEMENT.
YOU HAVE TO DO THE STATEMENT AND YOU HAVE TO DO THE STATEMENT FIRST IT'S IN YOUR PACKET.
SO YOU'LL NEED TO SIGN THAT, THAT STATEMENT IS REQUIRED BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE.
IT SAYS, UH, THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN PAID ANYTHING OR PROMISED TO ME, CAME TO TAKE HIS POSITION.
AND IF YOU'LL SIGN THAT AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE, THE STATEMENT YOU NEED TO SIGN THE STATEMENT FIRST, YOU NEED A PEN ONCE A STATEMENT, AND ONCE IN A WHILE, WE'LL DO THE OATH WHEN HE, AFTER THE FACT.
I THINK WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE YEAH.
SO LET'S DO THE OATH OF OFFICE AND THEN I WILL, UH, Y'ALL WERE REPEAT AFTER ME WHEN I SAY I, THEN YOU JUST SAY YOUR NAME.
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE.
I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE DUMMY COMMISSIONER OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WOVEN THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS, THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE.
AND THEN I HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS IN THE PACKET FOR Y'ALL.
UM, WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING TOGETHER AN ORIENTATION BOOKLET.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST STAB AT IT.
AND, UH, KEN IS GOING TO GIVE ME SOME DIRECTION OF HOW HE WANTS TO PROCEED.
SO, UM, I'M JUST GOING TO RUN THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS REALLY QUICKLY WITH Y'ALL.
I DID GIVE YOU A BLANK FORM THAT SAYS A CHECKLIST.
IF YOU WILL WRITE YOUR NAME IN THERE AND GET ON THE BACK, IT SAYS FOOD PREFERENCES, ANY ALLERGIES, I NEED TO KNOW THAT, UH, AND YOUR BIRTHDAY AND YOUR SPOUSE'S NAME OF POSSIBLE SO THAT, UH, IF WE HAVE ANY, UH, WE OCCASIONALLY DO HAVE, UH, FUNCTIONS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND, UH, WE ORDER FOOD.
AND IF YOU HAVE AN ALLERGY, I CERTAINLY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT SO THAT I DON'T, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL, CAN'T ACCUSE ME OF TRYING TO KILL YOU.
AND ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THIS PACKET IS A COMPENSATION AGREEMENT.
UH, THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT NEED TO GO TO HR.
HERE'S THE COMPENSATION AGREEMENT SAYING THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO TAKE THE BIG FUNDS WE GIVE YOU, UH, ON A MONTHLY BASIS, IF THEY'RE ALREADY RECEIVING THAT COMPENSATION.
NO ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN ONLY ACTION.
IF YOU'RE WANTING TO MAKE A CHANGE FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE ALREADY FILLED THESE OUT.
UM, NANCY ASKED ME EARLIER, IF THERE WAS A FORM OR SOMETHING THAT SHE COULD SIGN THAT SAYS, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE MONEY.
I WILL CHECK ON THAT AND SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I'D BE INTERESTED IN THAT TOO.
UM, BUT WE WILL BRING IT FORWARD TO Y'ALL.
UM, THE HUMAN RESOURCES INFORMATION FORM.
I NEED THAT COMPLETED FOR ALL THE NEW MEMBERS.
IF YOU HAVE YOUR, HAVE NO CHANGES ON YOURS, YOU DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THAT.
UM, IF YOU WANT, IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE IT, JULIE, YOU WOULD NEED TO FILL THAT OUT.
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UM, AND IF YOU ARE NOT ALREADY GETTING YOUR PAYCHECK DIRECT DEPOSIT, THAT'S A DIRECT DEPOSIT FORM IN THERE AND A W FOUR AS WELL.THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT NEED TO GO TO HR FOR ONBOARDING.
UH, WE ALSO NEED AN ANON FROM EACH MEMBER.
IF YOU'VE ALREADY DONE ONE, YOU DON'T NEED TO DO IT AGAIN.
UH, BUT THERE WERE SOME CHANGES ADDRESS CHANGES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND, UM, THEN THERE'S THE HUMAN RESOURCES, UH, ACTUAL REQUEST FORM THAT'S FOR WHEN THEY TERMINATED OR NO LONGER DID SOMEBODY GET TO FILL ONE OUT FOR ELLEN? CAN WE PROCESS THAT? AND WE PROCESSED, OKAY.
SO WE, UM, I WOULD SAYING IT BAD, NEW AND OLD, BUT THAT'S, UM, AND THEN GAVE YOU A DIRECTORY LISTING.
SO IF YOU WANT TO FIND ANYBODY IT'S IN THERE, UM, IF YOU'RE NEEDING TO FIND SOMEBODY WITHIN, WITHIN SYDNEY HALL OR WITHIN THE WHOLE CITY COMPLEX, IT'S THERE, THERE'S ALSO A MAP OF ALL OUR FACILITIES, UH, JUST SO YOU CAN BECOME AWARE OF, AND IT SHOWS PICTURES OF ALL THESE THINGS.
UH, I INCLUDED SOME BUILDING CODE AND, UH, LAND USE, UM, INFORMATION FROM MY, UH, MUNICIPAL LAW MANUAL PROCEDURE MANUAL.
UM, JUST IN CASE YOU WANTED TO INFORMATION TO READ, THERE'S SOME IMPORTANT STUFF IN THERE, LIKE THE PUBLICATION NOTICES, HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY DAYS HAS HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO YOU HAVE TO SIT IN THESE? SO JUST FOR, IF YOU AREN'T ALREADY AWARE OF IT JUST IT'S AN FYI.
SO THAT JUST HELPS YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHY, WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
SO YOU WILL THINK THAT WE'RE CRAZY AND NEW AND WE'RE DOING, THERE'S A REASON IT'S GOVERNMENT.
ALSO ON THAT SIDE, THERE WAS A LITTLE ENVELOPE WITH SOME CARDS IN IT.
UM, THE LADY THAT WOULD GET ALL THOSE FORMS BACK, YOU HAD ANY CHANGES.
CAITLIN WOULD BE THE ONE YOU NEED TO CONTACT.
UH, ASHLEY MITCHELL IS THE DCM THAT'S, UH, DIRECT.
HE REPORTS TO SO THAT'S AND YOU ALREADY HAVE HIS CARD.
SO I DON'T NEED TO GIVE YOU HIS NOR JENNIFER'S CARL HORTON IS THE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
THAT'S DOWNSTAIRS, IT'S TOWN HALL, YOU HAVE HER NUMBER AND, AND CARD.
AND THEN MINE, IF THERE'S QUESTIONS.
UM, THE NEXT THING IS EMAIL POLICY.
EACH OF Y'ALL HAVE A, UH, ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, NO POLICY.
UM, THIS IS A REAL TOUCHY SITUATION WITH EMAILS WHERE EMAILS WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH.
PLEASE DO NOT USE YOUR CITY EMAIL FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN CITY BUSINESS.
UH, DON'T USE YOUR PERSONAL DEVICES, WHETHER IT'S A TELEPHONE, YOUR CELL PHONE, OR YOUR HOME COMPUTER FOR, UM, CITY BUSINESS, BECAUSE YOU MAKE YOUR COMPUTER AND YOUR CELL PHONE SUBJECT TO OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS, AND WE DO GET THEM ON OCCASION.
WE GET, THEY WANT TO KNOW ALL YOUR EMAILS FROM THIS PERSON AND IT'S, IT'S, UH, WE CAN, THEY CAN ACCESS OUR, I T PEOPLE CAN ACCESS YOUR PERSONAL, YOUR, UM, WORK, OUR CITY COMPUTERS.
AND IF YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE ISSUE TO YOU, IF YOU'VE USED YOUR PERSONAL, WE, YOU CAN BE SUBJECT TO THE OPEN RECORDS AS WELL.
SO LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
SO I WAS GOING TO EMAIL KIM THIS MORNING.
I ENDED UP CALLING HIM WITH A QUESTION THAT I HAD, BUT I WAS GOING TO DO THAT FROM MY PERSONAL COMPUTER.
NO OSCE ALL SHOULD BE DONE ON YOUR BUSINESS COMPUTER.
THERE'S SOMETHING WITH MINE FROM, WE HAD ISSUES WHEN I FIRST JOINED AND THEY KEPT HAVING TO DO IT TO MY PERSONAL.
AND THERE'S STILL SOMETHING I'M GETTING FROM YOU.
I THINK I GET IT IN BOTH PLACES, BUT WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO ELIMINATE THAT.
IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO USE YOUR PERSONAL COMPUTER.
AND THAT'S WHY WE GIVE YOU THE IPADS TO AVOID HAVING TO DO THAT.
IF YOU'RE SENDING FROM YOUR TOWN ACCOUNT, THAT'S REALLY WHAT SUBJECT TO THE OPEN RECORDS ACT.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE YOU SENT AN EMAIL FROM YOUR TOWN ACCOUNT ON YOUR PERSONAL COMPUTER.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE GOVERNMENT GETS THE SEARCH, YOUR PERSONAL COMPUTER AND YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL AND YOUR PERSONAL DOCUMENTS.
THAT, WHAT IS THE RECORD IS YOUR EMAIL FROM YOUR ACCOUNT EMAIL ACCOUNT, OR IF YOU'RE DOING TOWN BUSINESS ON YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL ACCOUNT, THAT THEN DOES BECOME A RECORD AS WELL.
BUT THERE IS LIMITATIONS IN PROTECTION.
UH, THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T ILLEGALLY SEARCH YOUR DOCUMENTS IF IT'S NOT RELATED TO A SPECIFIC
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GOVERNMENT INTEREST.SO THERE'S ARENAS COVERING IT AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL.
WE CAN GIVE A MUCH MORE GRANULAR PRESENTATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, UH, CITY LEGAL STAFF, UH, TO, UH, DIVE INTO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE BOMBED, BUT JUST GENERAL AS A BEST PRACTICE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE YOUR IPAD AND YOUR CITY EMAIL TO CONDUCT CITY TIME BUSINESS.
ASKING YOU WHETHER OR NOT I SHOULD WEAR A TIE, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT RAISES TO THE LEVEL OF SHAME.
THAT'S NOT THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
IF YOU WERE ASKING ME ABOUT A SPECIFIC CASE AND DIFFERENT STORY.
UH, I HAD ONE ISSUE BEFORE IN A PREVIOUS CITY WHERE A COMMISSIONER SENT AN EMAIL TO A RESIDENT RESIDENT, ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT HOW SOMETHING WAS GOING ON AND, AND, AND P AND Z A SPECIFIC CASE.
AND THEY RESPONDED ON THEIR PERSONAL.
AND THEN WHEN WE GOT A REQUEST FOR ALL THE INFORMATION, UH, THEN WE WENT ON THE COMPUTERS AND LOOKED, AND THERE, THERE WAS NOTHING THERE.
BUT THEN THE CITIZEN SAYS, WHO WAS THE SAME ONE THAT HAD ASKED, SAID, OH, YOU DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING.
HERE'S WHAT HE WROTE ME OVER HERE.
UM, BUT THERE IS, UM, THERE'S SO MUCH PEOPLE WERE ANGRY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THEIR ANGER.
AND, UM, WE WILL BE ADDRESSING SOME OF THAT.
UM, OPEN RECORDS THING IS THAT HE SAID, AND OPEN MEETINGS, UH, INFORMATION WITH Y'ALL'S ATTORNEY.
SO THEY WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, INFORMATION LATER ON, BUT IT'S JUST THE HIGHLIGHTS WHERE I'M JUST HIGHLIGHTING HERE.
UM, AND IF I EVER CONTACT YOU WITH YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL, REALLY, IT'S GOING TO BE, HEY, ARE YOU AVAILABLE TO MEET AT THIS TIME? IT'S COORDINATING THINGS.
CAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS DON'T ALWAYS CHECK YOUR TIME.
IT'S KIND OF CAN BE LAUREUS TO DO, RIGHT.
SO IF IT'S TO SET UP A MEETING OR SOMETHING ADMINISTRATIVE, OTHER THAN THAT, I'M NOT GOING TO BE SENDING PACKETS OR TALKING ABOUT TECHNICAL ISSUES AND BUSINESS, AND THAT CONNECTION WITH YOUR PERSONAL HE'S VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND HE'S NOT GOING TO PUT YOU IN A SITUATION.
I MEAN, HE'S GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND HE'S A VERY TECH TECHNO SAVVY, SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AND NOT PAY HER TO SAY THAT.
WELL, I FEEL VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE OUR TWO, UM, STAFF MEMBERS THAT, THAT ARE DIRECTING Y'ALL THERE.
UM, WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THEM.
UM, THERE'S A CHECKLIST AS WELL AS IF YOU HAVE EMAILS THAT YOU'RE GETTING ON YOUR COMPUTER, GET RID OF THEM.
MOST OF THEM WERE PROBABLY ADMINISTRATIVE VALUABLE ONLY FOR THAT ONE TIME PERIOD, GET RID OF THEM.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON A POLICY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT FOR ALL COMPUTER CITYWIDE.
UH, SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO KEEP EQUAL GRAMMAR.
DOES IT? THE CITY AUTOMATICALLY ELIMINATE THEM.
SO MANY OF THESE EMAILS THAT ARE IN YOUR FILE AFTER SO MANY DAYS OR NOT, NO TWO YEARS IS WHAT THEY USUALLY DO.
UH, WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A POLICY, A TIMEFRAME OF WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF ALL THESE EMAILS AT THIS TIME, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO CLEAN OFF THEIR COMPUTERS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ALL THESE THINGS SET UP, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON, UH, WITH THE OPEN RECORDS, UH, OUR, THE RECORDS COMMITTEE TO COME UP WITH A POLICY TO SET THIS UP SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S SITTING THERE FOR SIX YEARS, YOU KNOW? UM, SO NOW WHEN YOU TURN IN YOUR COMPUTER, AFTER YOUR SERVICE, UH, THE IT DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE AND THEY'RE GOING TO DUMP.
SO, BUT WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE TOWN FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND THEY'VE KEPT EVERYTHING, UH, PAST THEIR RETENTION SCHEDULE.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE GET IN TROUBLE WHERE I SAY, NO, WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THIS THREE YEARS AGO.
AND THEN I'VE FOUND THAT THERE IS A COPY SOMEWHERE.
I DON'T LIKE BEING IN TROUBLE, UM, OPEN GOVERNMENT AND THE NET, UM, JUST ANOTHER HANDOUT, UM, AND A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, UH, LAWS MADE EASY.
ANOTHER THING IN YOUR SPARE TIME, UH, READ THEM ON WHEN HE HAD CAST THE ATTORNEY, COME IN AND Y'ALL CAN SIT DOWN AND ASK HIM QUESTIONS.
YOU PARTICULAR QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, IN THE BACK OF THAT PACKET IS A FORM, THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST FORM.
AND I HAVE MADE SOME, I WILL HAVE, UH, BLANKS FOR PNC ONLY IN THE, UH, CABINET THERE.
SO IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, YOU NEED TO FILL IT OUT.
YOU NEED TO TELL KEN BEFORE THE MEETING THAT THERE'S, YOU'RE GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM A CERTAIN SUBJECT OR ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
AND BY LAW NOW THAT HAS TO BE INCLUDED ON THE WEBSITE.
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AND WE HAVE A SECTION ON THE WEBSITE NOW THAT WE HAVE TO PUT ALL THE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THAT, BUT TO EXECUTE IT ONE BY ONE, I DID DO I, OR DO I HAVE TO EXECUTE EVERY TIME THAT IT'S ON THE BALLOT, WE SHOULD DO IT EVERY TIME.CAUSE WE DIDN'T THE LAST TIME YOU WENT IN THE NOTES, YOU DIDN'T TAKE ACTION.
AND IT WAS IN THE MINUTES, IT WOULD BE A GOOD PRACTICE TO GO BACK RETROACTIVELY TO THAT.
CAUSE WE DID IT FOR THE PREVIOUS AND HE CAN'T JUST, WE CAN'T JUST REUSE THAT.
NO, EACH TIME IT'S AN ON THE AGENDA, YOU NEED TO FILL THIS OUT.
UH, WE HAVE TO, I HAVE TO PUT THEM ON MY MINUTES AND I PUT A NOTE IN THERE THAT SAYS, STEPHANIE NOTARIZE THEM.
I MEAN, I DID IT IN MY OFFICE.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF REMEMBERING TO DO IT IN ADVANCE.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE CAN GET HER TO BE A NOTARY AND THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE HERE AND THAT COMES UP AND YOU, YOU FORGET MAYBE YOU WHATEVER, BUT WE CAN GET THAT DONE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING TO ALREADY KNOW ABOUT.
UH, BUT EACH TIME IT'S ON THE AGENDA, YOU HAVE TO DO IT.
I PUT MINE IN, I PUT A NOTE IN THE MINUTES, IT SAYS THERE IT'S ATTACHED TO YOUR, TO AND MADE A PART OF THE MINUTE.
SO IT'S IN THE MINUTES AND THEN I HAVE TO POST IT ONLINE.
I WILL HAVE TO POST JOBS ONLINE TOO.
THAT'S PART OF THE NEW LAW THAT CHANGED.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE, Y'ALL AWARE OF THAT AS WELL.
THERE'S THE CRITERIA, CRITERIA ADHERED AND SAYS WHAT, UH, WHAT YOU, WHAT, WHY YOU COULD ABSTAIN PACKAGE ON FRIDAY, LOOK THROUGH IT, SEE IF THERE'S CONFLICT, FILL OUT THE FORM AND SEND IT.
NO, SIR, YOU WOULD GIVE IT TO THEM AND THEY WOULD PUT IT IN THE MINUTES.
UH, I COULD PULL IT AND GET IT FROM, FROM THEM AND THEN PUT IT ONLINE.
UM, OPEN MEETINGS ACT, UH, LAWS MADE EASY AS ALSO INCLUDED HERE.
IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, KEN'S HERE, JENNIFER'S HERE ARE THERE, THEY'RE ABLE TO ENTER QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
AND CERTAINLY IF YOU HAVE SOME OTHER ISSUES, WHEN THE ATTORNEY COMES IN AND Y'ALL DO A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION, Y'ALL CAN DISCUSS THOSE.
AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE Y'ALL NEED HOLOGRAMS WE'RE AVAILABLE.
CAN I HAVE THE CHECKLIST FORM EVERYBODY'S WIRED TRACKING.
IT WON'T HAPPEN, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, I DON'T THINK SO.
THANK YOU, SIR, JULIE, AGAIN, WELCOME TO THE AGE OF READY FOR THE NEXT BUSINESS.
[2. Discuss the election of a Chair and Vice Chair for the Planning and Zoning Commission.]
PRESENT, DISCUSS THE ELECTION OF CHAIR, VICE CHAIR.WE WILL NOT BE TAKING A VOTE TONIGHT THAT WILL BE DONE AT OUR REGULAR MEETING ON TUESDAY, JANUARY THE 18TH.
UM, THIS IS SIMPLY AS WE'VE DONE EVERY YEAR TO SEE WHO HAS AN INTEREST IN BEING YOU AS A CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR.
TALK ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND, KIND OF WHY YOU WANTED TO BE EITHER ONE.
ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SHOW THEIR, THEIR DESIRE TO BE CONSIDERED ONE OF THOSE OFFICES OR AT LEAST UNTIL JANUARY OR JANUARY OF 18, WHERE WE WILL BE TAKING NOMINATION.
SO I LIKE TO THROW MY HAT IN THE RING.
LET'S TAKE ABOUT TWO MINUTES AND TELL HER BACKGROUND.
I THINK MOST OF US TO NOTE THAT, YEAH, THIS IS MY SECOND GO AROUND THE PLANNING COUNCIL.
UM, FOUR YEARS AFTER I SERVED MY FOUR YEARS, I STILL WANTED TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY SOMEHOW AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND I REALLY GOT A BACK UP BANKING BACKGROUND.
SO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE FROM THE OTHERS, I FOUND THOSE KIND OF TRANSACTIONS FOR TWO YEARS AND LOCAL TOWN.
ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE? THAT WAS OUR STEP UP? YES.
I WILL ROUND OUT THIS PORTION.
IF I SAY I'M GOING TO THROW MY HAT IN FOR CHAIR.
UM, YOU KNOW, I LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW.
ANYBODY ON THIS COMMITTEE COULD BE CHAIR.
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UH, SO I'M NOT RUNNING BECAUSE I THINK I'M THE BEST QUALIFIED.I JUST, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY AND I LIKE HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ADS AND I HAVE A LONG LIST OF THINGS I'VE DONE FOR THE TOWN AND I JUST REALLY ENJOY GIVING BACK.
AND SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT'S COME UP.
UH, I HADN'T PLANNED ON IT HIGHLIGHT AND WAS PLANNING TO STICK AROUND FOR A COUPLE MORE YEARS, BUT SHE DECIDED TO GO OFF ON ANOTHER VENTURE.
SO, UM, I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO STEP UP AND SERVE AS CHAIR.
SO ANYONE ELSE, ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE'LL CLOSE THIS SECTION AND WE WILL, UH, HAVE FORMAL NOMINATIONS AND VOTE AT THE JANUARY 18TH MEETING.
[3. Present and discuss the DRAFT 2021 Planning and Zoning Commission Annual Report.]
NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO PRESENT DISCUSSED A DRAFT 2021 PLANNING.WAS THERE ANY COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT VERSUS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO READ A DOCUMENT? I HOPE, UM, I THINK, UH, KIM'S STAFF DID A PHENOMENAL JOB, BUT, UH, SO HOPEFULLY EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT.
ITS STAFF IS SEEKING SOME DIRECTION FROM US TONIGHT.
UM, PARTICULARLY SOME OF THE NEEDS AND PRIORITIES FOR 2022, AS WELL AS JUST A GENERAL REVIEW OF THE DOCUMENT.
ANYTHING WE SEE THAT NEEDS TO BE EITHER EXPANDED ON OR CHANGE OR EDITED SO CANDY WHEN START THE DISCUSSION.
SO YOU'LL, YOU'LL PROBABLY NOTICE THAT I CHANGED UP THE FORMAT A LITTLE BIT.
IF I CAN GET THIS TO WORK, I'M GOING TO CHANGE UP THE FORMAT A LITTLE BIT.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I FREQUENTLY GET FROM FOLKS ON THE COMMISSION COUNSEL, PEOPLE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY IS, UM, THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN THE BUSINESS LIKE GOES BEFORE YOU, AND THAT'S A GREAT THING.
AND, UM, FREQUENTLY AS THOSE ITEMS PASS AND THEY TRANSITION INTO, UM, ADDITIONAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESSES WITH MY STAFF AND ULTIMATELY, UH, START TO MOVE INTO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASES OF THE PROJECT, UH, THERE'S INTEREST IN TERMS OF WHAT THE STATUS IS OF THOSE BUSINESSES.
UM, IN MOST CASES THEY MOVE FORWARD AND THEY ULTIMATELY OPEN, BUT PERIODICALLY THERE'S PROJECTS THAT WILL LINGER A LITTLE BIT OR MAY NOT EVER GET IMPLEMENTED.
SO WANTING TO ADD A SECTION THAT KIND OF SPEAKS TO THAT INTEREST.
SO, UH, THE, UM, FINAL PORTION OF THE REPORT COVERS, UM, ALL OF THE SUBSTANTIVE CASES IN TERMS OF PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT WAS, UH, BEFORE YOU AND, AND ULTIMATELY APPROVED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS PROVIDES UPDATES, BREAKING IT DOWN BY, UH, WHAT'S BEEN COMPLETED, UM, WHAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THEN WHAT IS KIND OF STILL IN THE REVIEW PIPELINE AT THIS POINT? UM, AT A HIGH LEVEL, IT WAS A, I WOULD SAY IT WAS A, A GREAT YEAR FOR THE COMMISSION.
UH, IT WAS MY START, UH, HERE AT THE TIME OF MADISON AND IT WAS A, UM, A LITTLE SLOWER, UH, TO START.
UH, WE WERE KIND OF STILL IN, UH, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE STILL VERY MUCH IN THE PANDEMIC, IT WAS, WE HADN'T GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE WE WERE QUITE AS GOOD WITH COMMITTEE GATING AND DEALING WITH AND LIVING WITH THE PANDEMIC.
SO, UM, WE HAD A FEW MEETINGS AT THE START OF THE YEAR WHERE THERE WAS NO BUSINESS, UH, FOR THE COMBINATION.
ULTIMATELY WE ROLLED BACK INTO DOING VIRTUAL MEETINGS AND THEN, UM, ABOUT MID-YEAR WE TRANSITIONED TO HYBRID MEETINGS, UH, PHENOMENAL ATTENDANCE FOR THE COMMISSION SPEAKS HIGHLY TO THE STRONG DEDICATION THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO THIS ROLE.
AND THAT IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
MY PARENTS WOULD HAVE BEEN THRILLED IF I EVER GOT A 98%.
SO, UH, NO WORRIES ON THAT, A GREAT PARTICIPATION AND, UH, THE COMMISSION WAS VERY ENGAGED AND PROVIDED GREAT FEEDBACK TO STAFF THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UH, THE PROJECTS THAT CAME THROUGH WERE VERY MUCH IMPROVED AND REFINED BY THAT FEEDBACK.
I THINK THE, UM, AS FAR AS TRENDS, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAW IS, IS ACTIVITY PICKED UP THIS YEAR.
UM, LAST YEAR OBVIOUSLY WAS A SLOW YEAR.
UM, AND WE'VE COME KINDA GOTTEN BACK TO MORE OF THE HISTORICAL TREND OVER THE FIVE YEARS.
SO, UH, LOOKING BACK, UH, TO 20 16, 20 17, 20 18, UM, WHAT WE SAW, UH, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO SVPS AND REZONING REQUESTS AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW VERY MUCH ON TREND FOR THOSE YEARS PRE PANDEMIC.
UM, WE DON'T GET AS MANY PLANTS AS WE DID, UH, IN YEARS BEFORE.
AND THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO A FEW THINGS.
WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH VACANT LAND.
SO MOST OF WHAT WE DO HERE AT THE COMMISSION AND IN TOWN IS A LOT OF REUSE.
UH, WE DID HAVE SOME REDEVELOPMENT THIS YEAR AND, UH, WE DID HAVE ONE PLANT, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS WE HAD SAY IN 2016.
UM, I THINK ONE OF THE DOMINANT TRENDS, UM, AS THE
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PANDEMIC CONDITIONS, UH, EVOLVED IS, UM, TRANSITIONING FROM WHERE WE WERE ALL EATING AT HOME.UM, AND RELYING ON TAKEOUT TO WHERE THINGS STARTED TO OPEN BACK UP AGAIN.
YOU REALLY SAW THE DYNAMICS HERE IN ADDISON.
WE'RE A RESTAURANT DOMINANT COMMUNITY AND THE VACANT SPACE THAT WAS, UM, UH, CREATED, UH, IS FILLING UP QUICKLY.
UH, WE SAW A LOT OF RESTAURANT ACTIVITY TAKEN AWAY AT THE, THE BELTLINE MONTFORT AREA, BUT ALSO EVEN FURTHER ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN WHERE YOU DON'T TYPICALLY SEE AS MUCH ACTIVITY WEST OF MIDWAY.
SO THAT WAS A VERY STRONG, UH, INDICATOR OF THINGS, UH, BOUNCING BACK, UH, FOR THE TALENT AND, AND REALLY FOR OUR REGION AS WELL.
UM, YOU ALSO SAW WITH THE, UH, OUR TWO PRIVATE SCHOOLS, UH, THEY'RE, UM, VERY AGGRESSIVELY, UM, MOVING FORWARD AND IMPLEMENTING THEIR MASTER PLANS.
SO WITH TCA ON YOU REVIEWED THE MIDDLE SCHOOL PROJECT, THAT'S NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN ALSO YOU RECENTLY REVIEWED, UH, THE, UH, GREENHILL SCHOOL, MATH, SCIENCE, AND INNOVATION BUILDING.
THAT PROJECT IS STILL WITH MY TEAM WHERE WE'RE GETTING INTO THE DETAILED CIVIL DESIGN REVIEW, BUT THEY ARE EAGER TO KICK OFF AS WELL.
SO GREAT TO SEE CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN THOSE CAMPUSES.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, UH, YOU SEE ADDITIONAL HOUSING AND HOUSING, UH, THAT WE SAW, UM, MOVE FORWARD, UH, THIS YEAR.
IT, IT ADDS DIVERSITY TO THE TOWN.
UM, SEE THE SECOND PHASE OF ADDISON GROVE, UH, TOWNHOMES, UH, BLOCK A.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE GOING UP, UM, IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THE ADDISON GROVE MULTIFAMILY.
SO THOSE ARE GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL TOWNHOME UNITS, BUT THEN ALSO OUR FIRST LIVE WORK UNITS.
SO THAT WILL BE AT A VERY INTERESTING CONCEPT ON HOUSING OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, THE TOWN, UH, THE LIVE WORK AS YOU WERE CALLED, IT'S A DWELLING UNIT, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE OCCUPANT OF THAT DRAWING UNITS, YOU OPERATE A BUSINESS OUT OF THE GROUND FLOOR.
UH, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS NOT AS, UM, PREVALENT, CERTAINLY IN DFW IS PROBABLY SOMETHING YOU SEE MORE IN, IN OLDER COMMUNITIES, BUT, UM, WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND WITH THE PANDEMIC, I THINK YOU'LL CERTAINLY SEE THAT THERE'S DEMAND FOR THAT USE.
AND, AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE MORE DEMAND IN THE FUTURE.
YES, THERE'S, UH, I THINK YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOME FUNCTIONING AS THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF SPECIFIC ZONING, UM, WHERE THAT IS A, UM, REALLY A TRULY PERMITTED USE WHERE, HOW CITIES TYPICALLY ADDRESS IT FROM A REGULATORY STANDPOINT, IT'S CALLED A HOME OCCUPATION, UM, WHERE THERE'S A LOT MORE LIMITS PLACED ON IT, WHERE IT'S PROBABLY MORE LIKE SOMEONE WHO'S INDEPENDENTLY WORKING OUT OF THEIR HOME AND THEY'RE NOT GENERATING ANY TRAFFIC TO THE HOME.
THESE YES, I THINK THERE IS, UM, WORKSPACE THERE PROBABLY IS.
UM, BUT ONCE AGAIN, NOT AS, NOT AS HIGH GO AHEAD, THERE'S LIKE FIVE WHERE THEY BUY THEM A STORY OF PROBABLY THE SIX TYLENOL.
AND I CAN, I CAN LOOK INTO THAT TO CONFIRM I'LL, I'LL CHECK INTO THAT FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.
AND IT'S A, IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING HOUSING CONCEPT.
UH, I'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW IT DOES IN ADDISON GROVE.
AND I THINK JUST GENERALLY WITH HOW WORKING FROM HOME AND WORK, THE WORK ENVIRONMENT AND OFFICE ENVIRONMENT IS EVOLVING IN THE PANDEMIC.
PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO EXAMINE, UH, EVEN MORE HERE IN THE REGION.
AND THEN THE, UH, THE OTHER, UM, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU RECENTLY REVIEWED OF COURSE, WAS THE RENTAL TOWNHOMES CONCEPT IN THE TRUE, UH, THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT, UH, FOR VITRUVIAN AND ALSO NOT A, UH, COMMON HOUSING OPTION IN TOWN.
CERTAINLY WE'RE GETTING MORE TOWN HOMES AND WE HAVE A FAIRLY, UM, UH, STRONG, UH, EXISTING INVENTORY OF TOWN HOMES, BUT THE RENTAL CONCEPT, LIKE WHAT WAS PROPOSED THERE IS ADD SOME UNIQUENESS AS WELL.
UM, THE LAST SECTION OF THE ANNUAL REPORT, REALLY WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, SOME, SOME MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION.
THAT'S REALLY SPEAKING TO, UH, GOALS FOR NEXT YEAR AND BEYOND JUST REVIEWING CASES, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE STAFF TO FOCUS ON THE COMMISSION TO FOCUS ON.
UH, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR THAT FROM YOU AND ULTIMATELY, UH, WHERE WE LAND AT WITH THIS REPORT, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH ANY REFINEMENTS THAT YOU POINT OUT, AND THEN EVENTUALLY WHOEVER IS APPOINTED CHAIR WILL PRESENT THIS TO COUNCIL MOST LIKELY IN FEBRUARY.
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IF OVER THE DAVIS, I GUESS, WEEK OR SO, IF YOU THINK OF SOME GOALS OR NEEDS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO ADDRESS LIKE THE COMMISSION AND CAN STAFF ADDRESS FEED THOSE TO HIM.SO IN THE FOLLOWING GRAPH CD ON JANUARY 9TH, 18, I'LL LET I'LL ADD THIS TO THE AGENDA.
LAST YEAR, THE COMMISSION GOALS ARE TWO.
I BELIEVE ONE WAS TO, UH, FORMALIZE OR COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THE SIGN VERBIAGE, UM, AND IN REQUIREMENTS.
AND THE OTHER ONE WAS TO UPDATE THE PROCEDURES.
WE AS COMMISSIONED, WE DID UPDATE THE PROCEDURES AND, AND COUNCIL ALONG LONG WITH THE PROCESS AND UDC UPDATE AND DESIGN ISSUE.
SO THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WAS, WAS PUT IN THERE LAST YEAR.
AND SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, FAIRLY GENERIC, FAIRLY BROAD FEED THOSE TO CAN AND WILL PUT THOSE, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A GOAL OR NOT, BUT THIS IS A SORT OF AN OBSERVATION, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS ONCE A MONTH AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE WEEK LEADING UP TO THE MEETING, WE'LL GET INFORMATION FROM YOU.
ALL, WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, THEN WE'LL COME IN AND WE'LL DISCUSS IT WITH YOU AND ALL THAT.
AND I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE.
THEN I PARKED MY P AND Z HAT ON THE TABLE OVER HERE, AND I DON'T GET MY HAT OUT AGAIN UNTIL I START GETTING SOMETHING FROM YOU GUYS.
SO I THINK THERE NEEDS, FOR ME, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR MORE WORK FOR ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY, BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SORT OF A, A BETTER BRIDGE BETWEEN THE THIRD, TUESDAY OF THE WEEK IN JANUARY FOR THE THIRD, TUESDAY OF THE WEEK IN FEBRUARY.
THERE'S A LOT OF TIME THAT GOES BY WITH, YOU KNOW, MY LUCK.
AND SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST GETTING IT OUT THERE AS SOMETHING THAT, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW DO WE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY WITHOUT PUTTING ANY MORE WORK, UH, THE ENTIRE, AND I KNOW OUR STUFF'S IN THE CLOUD WHEREVER, BUT DOES THAT TIE TO GOOGLE DOCS? SO WE ACTUALLY USE ONE DRUG.
UM, SO DOES IT HAVE A FUNCTIONALITY WHERE BASICALLY AT ANY TIME I CAN GO LOOK AT A FILE THAT YOU'RE UPDATING REGULARLY? UH, I DON'T PERSONALLY KNOW IF IT INTEGRATES WITH GOOGLE DOCS.
TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE, KIND OF WHEN HE'S ASKING FOR IS WHAT WE CALL PIPELINE REPORT IN OUR BUSINESS, EVERY DEAL YOU'RE WORKING ON, AND YOU'D HAVE A COLUMN OF WHEN YOU'RE EXPECTING IT TO GO TO COUNCIL AND I GET TO YOUR POINT, I MEAN, WE ARE OUT IN THE CITY ALL THE TIME.
IF WE KNEW STUFF'S ON THERE AND I'M SITTING AT A RESTAURANT GOING, DOES THAT WORK AT, THAT HAPPENS AT THAT NEXT PLACE? WHEREAS IT MIGHT NOT COME TO US FOR TWO MORE MONTHS.
AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH, I WISH I WOULD'VE KNOWN THAT WHEN I WAS AT THE RESTAURANT TWO MONTHS AGO AND I GET, YOU DON'T WANT TO BOX YOURSELF INTO US ONE.
WELL, IT WAS ON THE LIST, BUT IT DIDN'T MAKE IT, BUT WE GET THAT YOUR BUSINESS IS FLUID.
I MEAN, I GUESS I WOULD, I'M SORRY, ALONG THOSE LINES, I KIND OF AGREE WITH DENISE INVOLVED BECAUSE I USUALLY SPEND SATURDAY OR SUNDAY OR MONDAY IF I HAD A CHANCE DRIVING AROUND AND SEEING THE PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE, IF WE COULD EVEN JUST GET A MID MONTH OF WHAT YOU GUYS, NINE 85%, 9% CHANCE, IT'S GOING TO SHOW UP THE NEXT MEETING, THEN THAT MIGHT GIVE US A WEEK OR TWO.
AND I THINK THAT'D BE A HUGE FIRST STEP.
I THINK WHAT DENISE IS GOING AFTER MY VA SECOND STEP.
UM, BUT IF WE COULD JUST GET EVEN A LITTLE MORE ADVANCED NOTICE, UM, SO THAT LIKE, IF IT IS LIKE MID MONTH, UM, TWO WEEKS AFTER THE PAST MEETING, OR WE GO HERE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THIS ONE, THESE THREE OR FOUR WILL PROBABLY BE ON AT THE MEETING THEN WHEN WE ARE OUT AND ABOUT FOR, FOR THAT NEXT TWO WEEK PERIOD, AS OPPOSED TO THE TWO DAY PERIOD, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO, I MEAN, THE PROBLEM WITH GETTING IT ON FRIDAYS, YOU'RE OUT OF TOWN THAT WEEKEND YOU'RE DONE FOR YOU.
CAN'T GO LOOK AT ANYTHING BEFORE WE'RE MEETING OR FOR DECLINED TO COMMENT, JUST KIND OF GENERAL IDEA OF LOCATIONS THAT YOU COULD AT LEAST FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT THOUGHTS COME UP.
AND THEN WHEN YOU GET THE, GET THE PACKET, YOU'LL HAVE MORE DETAILS.
IF YOU NEED TO REVISIT, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT.
THERE DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A GOOD CONNECTION.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE WORD THAT I WOULD USE, BUT THERE'S SORT OF INDEPENDENT EVENTS THAT HAPPEN AND NOT ANYTHING THAT IS SORT OF TIED TOGETHER AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT THROWING STONES.
AND THIS, THE FEEDBACK IS, IS GOOD.
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DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE OFFENDING US BY STATING HOW YOU FEEL WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO SERVE AND YOU'RE, IT'S, UH, IF WE NEED TO DO MORE TO HELP YOU FEEL THAT YOU'RE BEING MORE EFFECTIVE IN YOUR ROLE, WE'RE ABSOLUTELY WILLING TO DO THAT.I THINK I INITIALLY DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ALL KIND OF WHERE THIS WAS GOING AND, BUT IT MAKES SENSE NOW.
UM, I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO AND THERE IS A BALANCE TO IT, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, AND HE'S NOT, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF TIMING CONSIDERATIONS.
HOW ARE GOING BETWEEN APPLICANT AND STAFF THAT DICTATE WHETHER A PROJECT WILL GO FORWARD THIS MONTH, THAT MONTH, OR IT MAY NOT GO FORWARD.
UM, I THINK THE, THE, THE MOST, UM, UM, RELIABLE THING I COULD PROBABLY DO FOR YOU.
SO, UH, YOU ALL KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR PROJECTS, UM, BY STATE LAW, ANYTHING THAT, UH, RESULTS IN A ZONING ACTION, UM, WE'RE REQUIRED TO SEND OUT NOTICES, UH, 10 BUSINESS DAYS, UM, UH, OR 10 DAYS, EXCUSE ME, PRIOR TO THE CASE GOING BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
SO I THINK PROBABLY WHAT WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE IF I KNOW I'M GOING TO NOTICE SOMETHING THAT MEANS IT'S GOING TO GO ON THE AGENDA REGARDLESS, THEN THAT WOULD ALSO BE A CUE FOR US TO, UH, GIVE SOME FEEDBACK TO THE COMMISSION INDICATING, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S LIKELY TO BE ON THE AGENDA AND WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
AND THERE'S PACKAGES THAT YOU SEND TO US ARE PHENOMENAL.
I KNOW THAT TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO PREPARE.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
WE'RE JUST SIMPLY GOING IN, IS GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA AND WHERE WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW EVEN WHAT PERHAPS IT'S GOING TO BE ALL ABOUT, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN RUN BY AND SEE WHAT LAW IT'S ALL ABOUT AND WHAT I CAN DO.
AND I'VE STARTED TO DO THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT, IT'S CERTAINLY NOT MEETING THE TIMING NEEDS THAT YOU ALL ARE DISCUSSING HERE IS JUST GIVE YOU ALL A DRAFT AGENDA FOR WOULD THERE BE WAY.
AND I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE TIMING OF EVERYTHING IT NEEDS TO GET POSTED, BUT WOULD THERE BE WAY, OR WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE OUR MONDAY WORK SESSION FOR OUR TUESDAY? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WOULD ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, I'M, I'M OPEN TO THAT.
UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD SAY, UM, ABSOLUTELY DON'T DO.
UM, OR WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH OVER THURSDAY PRIOR TO THE ME, BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE THE WEEKEND TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THAT STILL DOESN'T ADDRESS THE TIME LAG IT DOESN'T, BUT IT GIVES US MORE TIME TO DISCUSS WHERE.
SO IN THE THAT'S WHAT THE MONDAY MEETING USED TO BE ABOUT, AND WE MOVED IT TO TUESDAY, YOU KNOW, THE HOUR BEFORE THIS, UM, BECAUSE PEOPLE COULDN'T MAKE THE MONDAY MEETING A LOT.
AND SO WHETHER IT'S MONDAY, THE WEEK BEFORE OR MONDAY, THE WEEK OF, I THINK IT'D BE A COMMITTAL BURDEN, UH, EARLIEST AS WHAT, THAT'S, WHY WE ENDED UP MOVING THE PLEASURE OF MEETING TO RIGHT BEFORE THAT.
AND THAT'S THAT W THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SHARE.
I CAN, WHATEVER THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION IS, UH, AND IT'S REASONABLE, WE'LL EXECUTE IT.
SO I HAVE NO ISSUE IF WE HAVE TO MEET THE WEEK BEFORE, UM, THE DAY OF THE DAY BEFORE WE CAN BE FLEXIBLE ON THAT.
BUT, UM, I THINK THE TRUE BENEFIT OF THOSE MEETINGS IS THAT YOU ALL GET THE OPPORTUNITY OR AS MANY AS YOU AS POSSIBLE, GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.
SO IF IT'S SOMETHING WHERE ONE OR TWO OR THREE OR FOUR CAN ONLY DO IT, AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER THREE THAT, THAT MAY NOT, THERE'S A, THERE'S A BALANCE THERE THAT I DON'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULDN'T DO THAT, BUT THERE IS SOME, SOME, SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER IN THAT BALANCE.
I'M LOOKING FOR ANOTHER MEETING, I'M LOOKING FOR MORE COMMUNICATION, YOU KNOW, AND HOWEVER FORMAT YOU CAN REVISE IT.
AND WHEN YOU CAN DO THAT FOR ME, THAT'S GOOD.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL WORK ON SOME, UH, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
SO, UM, SO THIS IS MY FIRST MEETING, SO I DON'T KNOW, BUT I KNOW IN GENERAL, WHEN I, THEN I'M THE, MINISEQ THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M ALWAYS LACKING IS CONTEXT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY SAY, OH, GET ALL THIS PLAT CHAIN OR WHATEVER, AND YOU SAY, OH, IS THIS THE FIRST ONE? THEN 20TH ONE WAS THAT COMMENT IS THAT UNCOMMON? YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE SORT OF THING.
AND I'M ONE OF THE THINGS ON YOUR REPORT THAT, UM, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND YOU HEAR ON A NATIONAL LEVEL IS THAT, UM, MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS.
DO YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE ANOTHER EXPANDING AS THEIR POPULATION GROWING? LIKE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WANT TO DO? IS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT OUR PARKS? I KNOW THAT
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THERE WAS A LOT MORE USE OF THE PARKS AND WE USED TO HAVE TO CHARGE FOR IT OR WHATEVER, BUT I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S SOME, SOME, SOMETHING ABOUT THE HOMESCHOOLING AND PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS.THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS, UM, ABOUT OFFICE SPACE, YOU KNOW, CAUSE EVERYBODY'S SAYING PEOPLE AREN'T GOING BACK TO THE OFFICE AND WE HAVE A TON OF OFTEN WE JUST BUILT PREP FOR THE PANDEMIC.
UM, SO I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT THAT AND ABOUT, IS THERE ANOTHER USE THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT FOR OFFICES THAT'S COMING, THAT'S A TREND OR SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT? THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS FROM THE PANDEMIC, THE, THE ISSUE OF WHETHER THE PANDEMIC HAS PUSHED MORE PEOPLE TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS.
UM, I AM NOT WHERE SPECIFICALLY THAT BEING A TREND IN, UH, WITH REGARDS TO GREENHILL, UH, TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY, I THINK ADDISON'S A LITTLE UNIQUE IN THIS REGION AND THAT WE ARE PRIVATE SCHOOL DOMINANT, UH, AS A COMMUNITY.
UM, OTHER COMMUNITIES I'VE LIVED, I'VE WORKED IN PLANO, UH, DENTON, FAIRVIEW, VERY MUCH PUBLIC SCHOOL DRIVEN.
SO I THINK JUST IN GENERAL FOR ADDISON, UM, THAT'S PROBABLY YET, THAT'S PROBABLY A TREND FOR FOLKS THAT DO HAVE, UH, KIDS IN SCHOOL HERE.
UH, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO VISIT WITH THOSE, UM, UH, ADMINISTRATIONS TO SEE IF THEY, THEY SAW A BUMP, THE PANDEMIC.
I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED AT IT.
THERE, THERE ARE SOME, UH, IT, IT CERTAINLY, UM, A LOT OF THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE HAPPENED AS A RESULT OF A PANDEMIC, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF IT.
AND, UH, THEY, I WOULD SAY WITH BOTH OF THEM, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY MUCH, UH, IT'S NOT JUST, UH, AN EXPANSION ISSUE OF, ALTHOUGH THAT CERTAINLY IS A COMPONENT OF IT.
UM, UH, PARTICULARLY WITH THE GREEN HILL, UH, IT'S ALSO, UH, MODERNIZING THEIR FACILITIES.
UH, A IT'S A MORE WELL ESTABLISHED, UH, CAMPUS TCA HAS BEEN AROUND A WHILE TOO, BUT, UM, GREENHILLS ACTUALLY, UH, THEY'RE REDEVELOPING, SOME OTHER BUILDINGS, UH, TCA IS PROBABLY MORE OF A GROWTH MODE.
UH, AND THEN, UH, TO YOUR OTHER ISSUE, THAT IS, THAT IS THE HUGE, UH, CONUNDRUM THAT THE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE IS REALLY TRYING TO ADDRESS.
UM, CERTAINLY, AND THERE'S POSITIVE TRENDS THAT, UM, WHILE THE WORK FROM HOME CONCEPT, UM, THAT IS A NEEDED TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX FOR EMPLOYERS, IT'S NEVER GOING TO GO AWAY.
IT'S NEVER GOING TO RETURN TO, UM, UH, THE, UH, HOW IT WAS BEFORE THERE TRULY IS A NEW NORMAL ON THAT FRONT, BUT I WOULDN'T BE SO BULLISH TO SAY THAT, UH, THERE ALSO WON'T BE NEW NEED AND NEED DEMAND FOR OFFICE.
UM, I THINK PROBABLY THE, THE BIG DRIVER FOR OFFICE IS, UM, UH, LOCATING IN, UH, AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE THE AMENITIES THAT ARE DEMANDED BY, UH, CURRENT EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES.
SO OUR TRANSIT AREA, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WE FEEL THAT THAT IS VERY WELL POSITIONED EVEN DESPITE THE OFFICE DYNAMIC THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS TO HAVE OFFICE BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE GREAT AMENITIES LIKE ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, TRAINS IT, AND, UH, VERY EASY ACCESS TO THE, THE WONDERFUL RESTAURANTS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN ADDISON AND THE HOUSING THAT EXISTS AROUND THERE.
UM, BUT SOME OF THE LESS, UH, WELL-POSITIONED OFFICE, ANOTHER PROJECT WE'RE WORKING ON IS THE SAM'S CLUB SPECIAL AREA OF STUDY.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY ADDRESSING THE AREA WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT SAY THIS BUILDING, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S VERY HIGH VACANCY BASED, VERY HIGH OFFICE VACANCY IN THIS MIDWAY CORRIDOR.
UM, WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN CHANGE THAT TO AN EXTENT, BUT THE KEY THING IS GETTING THE AMENITIES AND SEEING THE INVESTMENT REINVESTMENT, UM, UH, IN THIS AREA TO MAKE IT ONCE AGAIN, ATTRACTIVE FOR OFFICE USE.
UM, YOU'RE GETTING, UH, YOU'RE SEEING FOLKS STRUGGLE WITH RETROFITTING AND HAVING ADAPTIVE REUSE FOR THESE OLDER OFFICE BUILDINGS.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS REALLY SOLVED THAT YET, BUT, UM, THERE ARE SOME CREATIVE THINGS BEING DONE.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S A CHALLENGE AND I'M SURE DENISE CAN DALLAS COUNTY JUST HIT AN ALL TIME HIGH ON LEASING.
SO WELL, THERE'S, THERE'S PLACES WHERE I COULD PROBABLY GET US MORE DATA ON LIKE ADDISON SPECIFIC, BUT IS THERE ANY ISSUES
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WITH ME GETTING THE REST OF THE COMMISSION, LIKE RESEARCH DATA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? SO I CAN LOOK INTO, I JUST HAVE TO CHECK ON CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT PUBLISH REPORTS WHERE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LICENSE WITH THEM, THEY GET REALLY HATEFUL ABOUT US DISTRIBUTING THEM TO OTHER PEOPLE, AND THEY LIKE WATERMARK COMING OUT.SO I GOT TO JUST CHECK OUT WHAT I CAN GET, AND IT MIGHT BE JUST AS EASY AS LIKE THE OFFICE TEAM.
I KNOW, SELLS A LOT OF CORN AND ALL THAT, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE PULLING STATS FOR ADDISON.
SO I COULD TRY TO PULL SOME OF THAT STUFF TO HELP EDUCATE WHOEVER WANTS IT.
I JUST GIVE ME SOME TIME AND I GOT A REALLY CRAZY NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
SO I'LL PUT ON A LIST OF SOMETHING TO DO FOR EVERYBODY.
IS THIS OFFICE THE MAIN THING YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN, OR DO YOU NEED MULTI STATS, RETAIL STATS, AND A LOT OF, UH, INCOME BEFORES TALKING ABOUT DOING MORE DOCTOR'S OFFICES, QUICK TERM TYPE STUFF, KEY SURGICAL THINGS.
SO THAT'S BECOMING, THAT'S THE, I COULD SEE THAT AS BEING THE TREND RIGHT NOW, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR SPACE AND HOW CAN YOU BE USED IN SOME AREAS IT'S A MUCH TOUGHER BUSINESS TO HEAR AN ANSWER.
I MEAN, TO BE QUITE HONEST, IT'S JUST SURE IT IS, BUT WE'VE HAD TWO, THREE IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS, THREE MONTHS.
SO GETTING BACK TO THE 20, 20 ANNUAL REPORT, UM, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, I GUESS, CAN, I'M JUST, I'LL I'LL WORK WITH YOU ON HOW MUCH OF THIS GETS PRESENTED.
I MEAN, AS YOU SAID, IT'S A DIFFERENT DOCUMENT THAN WE'VE HAD IN PRIOR YEARS, A LOT MORE INFORMATION, BUT A LOT OF IT IS FASHIONED OFF OF THE PRIOR REPORT.
SO I THINK AS I GO THROUGH THIS MULTIPLE TIMES, I I'M BEGINNING TO DISCUSS HOW IT MAY BE PRESENTED BY WHOMEVER IS THE CHAIR.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL, MAYBE YOU OR JENNIFER PUT TOGETHER AND I CAN DO THE MATH, BUT IF YOU COULD GIVE ME THE ABSOLUTE NUMBERS OF 16TH AND 21 ON EACH OF THE RED, EACH OF THE COLORED SPOTS, BECAUSE IF I TAKE OUT ZONING, TEXT AMENDMENTS AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS AND PLANNING, 2021 MAY HAVE BEEN A FAIRLY LARGE YEAR, UM, I SEE LIKE 2016 WAS AN EXCEPTIONAL YEAR TO KEEP GOING, JENNIFER.
THAT ONE, YOU TAKE OUT THE GREEN FLATS AND YOU TAKE OUT THE YELLOW, WHICH IS ONLY TEXT AND YOU TAKE OUT THE PURPLE, WHICH IS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS, I THINK 20, 21.
AND I THINK THAT NEEDS, THAT MESSAGE NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN HOME AS PART OF HER DANIEL IN FOUR, WE CAN ADD THE NUMBERS TO THAT.
UM, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT REPORT AND IT DOES FOLLOW A LOT OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST, BUT THE PART I REALLY LIKED, WHICH I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PRESENT YET, OR MAYBE WE JUST LEAVE IT.
THERE IS, IS THE, UH, THE GREAT KEEP GOING, JENNIFER, ALL THE PICTURES WHERE YOU SHOW THE COMPLETED PROJECTS AND THOSE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
UM, I THINK THESE ARE, THIS IS GREAT.
UM, BUT IT'S PROBABLY JUST AS AN ATTACHMENT AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL, I THINK, UNLESS YOU SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, I THINK THAT WOULD WORK WELL.
AND IF YOU WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A KEY TAKEAWAY OR TWO, I THINK THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE A FINE APPROACH.
AND WE CAN, WE CAN TALK THROUGH THAT.
AGAIN, AS FAR AS ANNUAL REPORT, IF YOU FEED KEN AND JENNIFER OR ANY COMMONS, YOU, AS FAR AS THE NEEDS AND PRIORITIES FOR 2022, I THINK WE'VE HIT ON ONE MAYBE IS STILL UP IN WHERE DO YOU WANT TO CALL IT A BRIDGE OR COMMUNICATION PATH OR SOMETHING? THE OTHER WOULD BE INCORPORATED UDC, WHICH IS GOING TO BE FINALIZED IN 2022.
UM, THOSE ARE TWO THAT COME TO MY MIND.
AND THEN THREE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO BE PREPARING ANYTHING SPECIAL FOR COTTON BELT DEVELOPMENT, JUST SO IT DOESN'T ALL JUMP ONTO AT ONCE, BUT WE'RE JUST START TO THINK ABOUT PARTS OF IT.
SO THOSE ARE THREE GENERIC VACUUM LIVE WITH, BUT, UH, WELL, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONNA START, THE PERMITS ARE GONNA START COMING AND THEN ARE WE PREPARED? AND WE READY FOR WHAT COULD BE A FLOOD OF PERMITS, UM, STAFF WISE AND COMMISSION.
WE TAKE A STEP BACK FROM THAT.
AND DO YOU KNOW THE STATUS OF THE CONSULTING GROUP THAT THEY'VE HIRED FOR, TO DO A RESEARCH REPORT FROM CUSHMAN MANNER? SO THE, UH, MASTER DEVELOPER, UH, SELECTION PROCESS, UH, THERE WILL BE A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, NEXT WEEK, UH, FOR THEM TO HEAR, UH, FROM FINALISTS THAT MOST OF THAT WILL BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO, UM, GIVEN THAT IT IS, UH, AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONSIDERATION, UM, IF, UH, THE COUNCIL MOVES FORWARD WITH THE CANDIDATE, UH, YOU'LL START TO SEE, UH, SOME OF THE,
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UH, INITIAL, UH, DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS DRIVING THE SELECTION, START TO OCCUR, UH, LATER THIS MONTH AND INTO FEBRUARY AND THE SPRING.UM, IF THINGS MOVE FORWARD AS PLANNED FOR THAT PROJECT, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THE COMMISSION TO START SEEING THINGS ON OUR PLATE, UH, PROBABLY LATE SUMMER INTO THE FALL.
SO DOES COUNCIL KNOW AT THIS POINT WHO'S APPLIED TO BE THE MASTER? OR IS THAT COMING? YES.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON THAT.
SO I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO SEE JUST HOW DIVERSE ALL THOSE PROJECTS, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT EVERYTHING FROM, UM, REDEVELOPMENT TO BRAND NEW CONSTRUCTION, TO MEDICAL, TO OFFICE, TO RESTAURANTS, AND THAT, THAT MADE ME REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT IT WASN'T JUST THE RESTAURANTS OPENING.
AND, UH, I HOPE WE ALL CAN COME WITH A FEW GOALS THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE ON THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US.
I MEAN, DO YOU WANT ME TO MENTION, TALK ABOUT THEM NOW OR SO ONE THING IS, UM, FROM DEFINITELY PROPERTIES RECYCLING, UM, PART OF YOUR, UM, GOAL FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS, UM, IDENTIFYING THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE APARTMENT COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP.
WE DID THAT ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, WE DID THIS PILOT, UM, PROGRAM.
I THINK WE DID THREE MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET RECYCLING MORE.
WE HAD SUCH A LARGE, UM, PORTION OF OUR RESIDENTS LIVING IN MULTI-FAMILY AND MOST OF THEM DON'T RECYCLE.
AND I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THAT WORK FELL ALONG THE WAYSIDE.
WE HAD OUR CONVERSATION, RICH RUBY IN THE TOPIC OF RECYCLING.
EVERYONE CAME UP AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE THIS GROUP THAT WOULD LEAD THAT CONVERSATION OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT I'D REALLY LIKE FOR US TO PICK THAT BACK, UM, LANDSCAPING.
I KNOW FROM TIME TO TIME, WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT LANDSCAPING AND MAYBE THAT'S COLORED IN A BIT, THE UDC.
UM, I WOULD LIKE US TO, YOU KNOW, ONCE AND FOR ALL, YOU KNOW, EITHER, EITHER WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE SOME THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT OR NOT, OR IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR, UM, I WROTE DOWN TREE MITIGATION.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT RETRIEVING AGAIN, THERE'S A HUGE OAK TREE THERE.
WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT TREE AND IF THERE'S A WAY TO SAVE IT, UM, AND THEN CAN ACTIVITY, IT MIGHT NOT BE THIS GROUP THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT I LOVE THE IDEA OF HOW WE'RE REQUIRING SIDEWALKS FOR A LOT OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS, BUT THEY DON'T DO ANY GOOD UNLESS WE CAN CONNECT A SIDEWALK WITH SIDEWALK.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF OUR CROSSWALKS NOW, I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST, WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED, BUT WE FAILED THAT THE LIGHTING IS TERRIBLE.
UM, DO YOU FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO TRULY TALK ABOUT BEING CONNECTED AND REALLY TRY TO PUSH AN ACTIVITY, WE NEED BETTER CROSSWALKS.
ONE MORE THING ON THE CONNECTIVITY THING.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS PROBABLY UDC BIKE RACKS.
I DON'T KNOW OF ANY BIKE RACK, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
UM, I MIGHT NOT BE IMPORTANT TO SOME PEOPLE, BUT YOU WANT TO RIDE YOUR, BECAUSE I USED TO RENT GO BACK ALL THE TIME, BUT IT WAS A TOPIC THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE MASTER TRAILS, UM, TO START BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS IS GOING TO BE PRIVATE TO DO PUT THOSE IN IT RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT IT STRONGLY SUGGESTED IT'S ENTIRELY ADVISORY.
THIS IS REALLY MINOR IN THAT LAST PARAGRAPH.
IN ADDITION TO ITS REGULAR MEETING COMMISSION MEMBER, ALSO PARTICIPATING IN THE SAY, COMMISSION MEMBERS PARTICIPATE IN GOOD.
AND JUST ONE THING, TOM, I HAVE TWO THINGS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO STAY, BUT ON THE LAST PAGE WHERE IT SAYS COMMISSION AND STAFF DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE GOALS, WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS.
AND I DON'T RECALL PLENTY OF GENTLEMEN COMMISSION DOING THIS CONDUCT PERIODIC SITE VISITS TO TOWN PROJECT TO SUPPORT THE REVIEW PROCESS.
AND YOU DID THAT WITH THE VIEWER ON THE ADDISON CITIZENS COMMITTEE.
WE DID THAT AND I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT.
CAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A LOOK UNDER THE TENT THAT
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YOU DON'T GET AS JUST BEING SOMEBODY HERE.SO I THINK THAT BEING POTENTIALLY A GOAL FOR, YOU KNOW, TO, TO VISIT TWO SITES THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, 20, 22, MIGHT THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE COME UP, THAT'S GOING TO COME UP UNDERNEATH 20, 22 PLANNING, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I HAD MADE A NOTE HERE THAT THE GOALS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN 2021 OR FOUR MAY GET FED FROM THE 20, 22 DEVELOPMENT.
SO LET'S HOLD OFF ON TALKING ABOUT THAT TILL WE GET THERE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
CAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF IDEAS THERE.
THAT WAS A BIG APARTMENT COMPLEX CIRCLE.
WE CAN ALL USE A WALK AROUND THE TRUDY AND WALK AROUND TRINITY GROVE.
AND IT'S ABOUT THESE MEETINGS.
YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS IS THIS APPROPRIATE OR NOT.
SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE BEGINNING, WHEN I CAME ONTO THE COMMISSION, WE USED TO HAVE OUR MEETINGS ON MONDAY MORNING, NINE O'CLOCK, EIGHT O'CLOCK, WHATEVER TIME IT WAS AND THEN WHATEVER TIME AND WE WOULD MEET AND WE'D SIT AROUND THE CONFERENCE ROOM OVER AT THE, WHERE YOUR OFFICERS ARE, UM, WE'D HAVE OUR MEETING AND THAT WAS IT, WHAT WE DIDN'T HAVE.
AND THAT, AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, OR YOU'RE NOT ON THE RECORD FOR EVERYTHING.
AND I'M NOT TRYING, I'M NOT TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, THERE WAS A DIFFERENT SORT OF FIELD THERE VERSUS WHAT WE DO NOW.
AND SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT AFFECTS.
WE CAN VOTE TO GO OR AGREE TO GO TO PRIVATE SESSION.
I THOUGHT, SO THERE'S A FEW ISSUES THAT COME INTO PLAY HERE.
I THINK WHAT, WHAT BOB IS GETTING AT IS HE, HE UNDERSTANDS THAT IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING.
WE HAVE TO HAVE AN AGENDA, WE HAVE TO POST IT AND NOTICE IT, AND IT NEEDS TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT THIS MEETING OR OTHER WORK SESSIONS WHERE YOU'RE NOT TAKING FORMAL ACTION, UM, CITIES CAN TAKE DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO THEM.
SOME CITIES THEY RECORD AND BROADCAST EVERYTHING, BUT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS DO THAT.
THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE APPROACH.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
UM, SOME CITIES ONLY RECORD THE REGULAR MEETINGS WHERE YOU'RE VOTING ON AND TAKING ACTION ON ITEMS AND THE WORK SESSIONS DON'T GET RECORDED.
THEY STILL ARE NOTICED ANYONE CAN GO TO THEM AND, AND, AND OBSERVE.
UM, BUT IT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S RECORDED.
UM, THERE'S NOTHING ILLEGAL, UH, WITHOUT MT.
RECORDING, AS LONG AS WE, WE FOLLOW THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT FOR HOW WE CONDUCT THE MEETING, UH, THAT'S FINE.
UH, FOR THIS MEETING IN PARTICULAR, IT KIND OF FEELS BASED ON THIS DIALOGUE.
UM, WE'RE PROBABLY A LITTLE TOO FORMAL HERE.
WE PROBABLY NEED TO BE AT A CONFERENCE TABLE AT THE SERVICE CENTER AND IT BEING A LITTLE MORE, UM, LOW KEY.
UH, WE CAN DO THAT FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW QUITE HOW, UH, THIS SHOULD GO SO WE CAN ADJUST.
UM, BUT I'M OPEN TO THE COMMISSION FEEDBACK.
UM, CERTAINLY, UM, I'M A LITTLE MORE SENSITIVE IN THE TIME OF THE PANDEMIC WITH REGARDS TO RECORDING MEETINGS MORE FREQUENTLY BECAUSE PEOPLE MAY BE A LITTLE, UM, UH, LESS COMFORTABLE WITH ATTENDING MEETINGS.
UM, BUT, UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO RECORD FOR JUST THESE WORK SESSIONS.
ALRIGHT, NOTHING ELSE ON THE ANNUAL REPORT
[4. Present and Discuss the 2022 Planning and Zoning Commission Calendar.]
NEXT QUARTER BUSINESS IS TO PRESENT A SPECIAL 2022 PLANNING COMMISSION CALENDAR STAFF IS ASKED DIRECTIONS, PERMISSION, I ASSUME CAN.WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THE FIVE O'CLOCK PLANNING MEETING AND THEN THE REGULAR MEETING AT SIX ON THE DAYS YOU SHOWED THEM HERE, OR ARE YOU LOOKING FOR ANYONE WHO KNOWS AND THE CONFLICT WITH THE DATE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO CHANGE A PARTICULAR DATE, RAPED HER TO ME IF THAT'S AT ALL POSSIBLE, BUT OTHERWISE I ASSUME EVERYONE'S LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR AND IF YOU GOT ANY COMMENTS, WHETHER THEY'RE APPROPRIATE OR NOT, GO AHEAD.
AND THEN THEY CAN'T KNOW AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I THINK WE SHOULD DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT DECEMBER INSTEAD OF BEING THE WEEK OF CHRISTMAS.
YEAH, WELL, I WOULD SAY CHRISTMAS AND THANKSGIVING WOULD BE THE TWO THAT I WOULD SAY WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO LIKE TO TAKE NEATER EITHER AND OR BOTH.
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I DON'T KNOW IF YOU JUST SIMPLY NOTICED THE MEETING AHEAD OF TIME IS GOING TO BE, SO THE THIRD TUESDAY, IT'S GOING TO BE THE SECOND TUESDAY OR WHATEVER, THEN YOU GET INTO COUNCIL MEETINGS INTERNING OUT.SO, SO WE W WE WOULD PUBLISH THIS ON OUR WEBSITE.
UM, SO, UH, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH CHANGING, UH, AND IT'S NOT INAPPROPRIATE TO CHANGE, UH, FROM OUR STANDING, UH, THIRD, TUESDAY OF THE MONTH PROVIDED THAT WE GIVE FOLKS NOTICE IF WE CHANGED IT LIKE THE WEEK BEFORE, THAT WOULD BE, UH, POTENTIALLY BURDENSOME FOR FOLKS THAT ARE DEPENDING ON THE SCHEDULE, BUT RIGHT NOW IS A PERFECT TIME.
SO THE DECEMBER MEETING IS ONE THAT I WOULD LIKE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION ON.
AND THEN PROBABLY WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR MEETING, IF WE WANT TO COMMIT TO SAY THE FIRST THURSDAY IN JANUARY, WHICH IS WHEN WE'RE MEETING RIGHT NOW, UM, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE THAT AS WELL.
AND SO THE 15TH IS PROBABLY GOOD FOR THANKSGIVING CHRISTMAS.
I'M PROBABLY THE ONLY TRICKY THING WITH CHRISTMAS IS SHIFTING IT BACK TO EARLIER IN THE MONTH.
AND I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE EITHER WAY, BUT IT MAY, IF, IF YOU GET A LOT OF CHRISTMAS PARTY INVITES, THAT'S LIKE A PRIME WEEK FOR THEM.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A BALANCE THERE, BUT I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH, WITH EITHER WEEK THAT Y'ALL THE CHRISTMAS ON THAT SUNDAY THIS YEAR.
UM, SO IT'D BE THAT PERIOD BETWEEN MONDAY AND THE WEEKEND AND PROBABLY PEOPLE WILL BE TRIALED.
SO IS EVERYONE GOOD WITH THE 20TH? AS OF RIGHT NOW, I, THAT WEEK YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE, RIGHT? OR SO THE 13TH WILL HIGHLY LIKELY BE THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THAT LONG.
SO IT CAN DO THE 14TH OF A 15 WEDNESDAY AT 15, 14 QUIRKY 14.
AND THEN JANUARY FOR THE, FOR THIS PLANNING MEETING, GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT ON CALENDAR FOR HEARING THE WORD FIFTH, JANUARY 5TH, ANYTHING ELSE ON CALENDAR? ALRIGHT.
[5. Present and discuss the DRAFT 2022 Planning and Development Work Plan.]
ITEM OF BUSINESS PRESENTED DISCUSSED THE DRAFT OF THE 2020 PLANNING DEVELOPMENT FOR FLANGE, AGAIN, STATUS SEEKING COMMISSION INPUT.HOPEFULLY EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE TO READ THIS ONE COMMENT.
BOB ME WAS FROM THIS AND THAT IT'S GOT A LONG LIST OF SOME THINGS TO DO AND GETTING, TRYING TO IDENTIFY NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, THERE'S A LOT HERE.
AND WE CAN OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION.
BUT MY FIRST FEELING WHEN I SAW THIS THOUGHT WAS IF WE CAN PUT SOME TIMING ON THESE SO THAT WE GET A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT STAFF OF THESE THINGS ARE, SOME OF THE HIGHER PRIORITY ITEMS. YOU SAY SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE BY FEBRUARY OR BY APRIL OF 2022, AS OPPOSED TO DECEMBER OF 2024.
IT GIVES US AN IDEA OF WHERE YOU THINK THAT GOAL IS IN YOUR MIND, BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH HERE AND YOU COULDN'T GET IT DONE IN PROBABLY FIVE YEARS.
SO I THINK WE'D BE INTERESTED AT LEAST I WOULD WHAT YOU SEE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS AND PART OF THE HIGHER PRIORITY ITEMS. AND THEN LIZ, THE ELEMENTS, YOU KNOW, FURTHER ON DOWN, OPEN FOR DISCUSSION HERE.
YOU HAD SOME GREAT STUFF IN YOUR CAMERA WAS JUST LIKE, WOW, I WISH I COULD DO ALL FIVE OF THESE THINGS THE NEXT THREE MONTHS.
BUT AS WE KNOW, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
SO IF YOU GUYS COULD LOOK AND SEE WHAT YOUR TIMING ISN'T PRIORITY WISE TOO, LIKE HE'S COMING TO THE HEAD IN JUNE.
CHRIS HAD TO TAKE OFF AND VACATION.
SO WE JUST SAID WE JUST HAVE TO WORK AROUND IN THE SUMMER.
SO YEAH, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
REMIND ME, UM, WE'RE STUCK TO FULL ON IN-PERSON STUFF, DOING THAT, THE RIGHT WORD.
BUT IF WE HAVE THINGS LIKE I HAVE A DATE, I SEE THAT I MIGHT HAVE A CONFLICT OR WE A DIAL IN OPTION OR IS IT PURELY CAN'T REMEMBER AFTER WE WENT BACK TO THE, SO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ALLOWS US TO HAVE HYBRID MEETINGS, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A FOUR PERSON QUORUM IN PERSON.
SO IF YOU ALL RUN INTO, UH, CONFLICTS, UH, BUT YOU ARE STILL ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING AND ZOOM IS AN OPTION THAT, THAT Y'ALL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN UTILIZING.
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ABSOLUTELY FACILITATE THAT.WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THESE FURTHER AS YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO BE NOW, BUT AS, AS THE YEAR PROGRESSES AND YOUR STAFF STARTS TO PICK UP SOME OF THESE, ARE WE GOING TO TALK THEM OR ARE YOU LOOKING FOR INPUT NOW OR HAPPY TO TAKE INPUT NOW? UH, PERHAPS ONE THING WE COULD DO IS MAYBE ESTABLISH LIKE A QUARTERLY CHECK-IN WITH THE COMMISSION ON THESE ITEMS. SO I'LL CERTAINLY TAKE TOM'S FEEDBACK.
UM, AND WHAT I HEARD FROM YOU ALL AND, AND IDENTIFY PRIORITIES OF TIMING, UM, NOT YOU ARE CORRECT.
NOT ALL OF THIS WILL BE FINISHED IN A YEAR.
I'D LIKE TO GET MOST, IF NOT, ALL OF IT STARTED, BUT IT IS, UH, IS DEFINITELY A WORK IN PROGRESS.
LIKE ONE OF THOSE, ONE OF THOSE ITEMS, UM, UM, THE, UH, GETTING KEY CONTACTS FOR NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND APART PROPERTIES.
SO HUGE ISSUE DURING THE TEXAS FREEZE.
BUT THEY ALL SHOULD BE REGISTERED BUSINESSES.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION WE DO, BUT NOT ALWAYS THE CHANNEL CAN BE AS YOU DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE RIGHT PERSON ON THOSE, THAT PERSON CHANGES OVER.
IDEALLY YOU WANT THE GO-TO PERSON ON THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT SIDE, WHO'S GOING TO SAVE THE DAY AND WHEN THINGS GO BAD.
SO WE DID THE CENSUS, MARY ROSE AND BLAKE HAD GOTTEN ALL THE REPS FOR THE APARTMENTS.
WE WERE GOING TO MEET WITH THEM.
AND THAT IS AN ITEM I'LL BE WORKING ON WITH MARY.
PROBABLY SOME OF MY, OUR LARGER GAPS ARE SURPRISINGLY WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, WHERE, UH, IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T UPDATED IN SOME TIME.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A DEFINITE NEED.
IT WILL HELP US IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
BUT FREQUENTLY, UH, IN MY DUTIES, AS THE PLANNER FOR THE TOWN, THERE ARE THINGS WE WANT TO GET FEEDBACK, UM, FROM NEIGHBORHOODS BEFORE SOMETHING GOES TO YOU.
SO HAVING THAT RELATIONSHIP AND THAT CONNECTION TO FACILITATE THAT DIALOGUE IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
WE DID THAT, UH, FIGURE, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR WITH WHEN A CHICK-FIL-A WAS PROPOSED, UH, IN TOWN, UH, HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING VIA ZOOM.
IT ULTIMATELY RESULTED IN SOMEONE CHOOSING TO GO IN DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND IT DIDN'T GET TO YOU AS A RESULT THEN.
AND SOMETIMES THAT'S A NEED OTHER TIMES, IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO GET BUY-IN FOR A GOOD PROJECT AND FOR THE TOWN.
SO, UM, TYPICALLY WHEN WE COME OUT OF LIKE SAM'S CLUB STUDY, AND IF THERE'S INTEREST IN DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA, WANT TO GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH THE DEVELOPER BEFORE IT GETS TO YOUR LEVEL.
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, ONCE WE GET INTO THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS OF, OF CONSIDERING THINGS IN THIS ROOM, IT BECOMES BINARY ISSUES THAT ARE A LOT MORE CHALLENGING TO WORK OUT, GIVING PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK THROUGH STUFF ON THE FRONT END.
UH, IT IS, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP US BE MORE SUCCESSFUL, WHETHER IT RESULTS IN A PROJECT OR WHETHER IT RESULTS IN SOMEONE CHOOSING NOT TO INVEST IN A PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
MCKENNA IS YOUR DEPARTMENT, THE TWO OF YOU.
SO OUR DEPARTMENT, UH, IS A MUCH LONGER DEER, UM, ON THE PLANNING SIDE, IT'S, IT'S THE TWO OF US.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH TEAM, UH, BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF WORK RIGHT HERE.
AND SO I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE TRYING TO PILE ON AND GIVE YOU MORE STUFF.
BUT I THINK WHETHER, HOWEVER YOU DO, WHETHER YOU DO IT VIA CALENDAR, WHETHER YOU DO IT VIA DATES ON ALL OF THESE BULLET POINTS THAT YOU HAVE HERE, IF THERE WOULD BE FIRST QUARTER OF 20, 22 H ONE OF 20, 23 OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE SORT OF A IDEA OF THE TIMELINE AND THE PROGRESS AND HOW QUICKLY OR SLOWLY SOME OF THESE THINGS MAY GOVERN HOW IMPORTANT SOME OF THEM ARE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I TOOK FROM THE FEEDBACK HERE.
AND SOME OF THESE PROJECTS LIKE, UH, UPDATING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS PROBABLY AN 18 MONTH PROJECT.
SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO START THAT THIS YEAR.
UM, SO, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME LOW-HANGING FRUIT ON HERE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE CLIMBING A MOUNTAIN.
ANY OTHER FEEDBACK? I LIKE THE IDEA OF MAYBE QUARTERLY, WE'LL SEE WHERE WE ARE.
UM, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO PUTTING
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SOME TIMEFRAME OF THESE THINGS.WE KIND OF SEE WHAT'S IMPORTANT IN YOUR MIND.
AND THEN WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AS TO WHAT WE MAY SEE.
SO GOOD STUFF, JENNIFER, APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK.
I HAVE A QUESTION HOW TO DO WITH THE COMMISSION AGREEMENTS, THE COMMISSION, BASICALLY, UM, DEVELOPMENT, UH, AS FAR AS TRAINING AND BEING INFORMED AND ALL.
UM, IS THERE ANYTHING, ANY OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN DEVELOPED THAT FOR INSTANCE, AFTER SOMEBODY, WHETHER IT'S A COMMISSIONER OR SOMEBODY THAT'S JUST INTERESTED IN HOW THINGS WORK, MAYBE THEY, MAYBE THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE A COMMISSIONER WHERE YOU CAN GO FOR WORKSHOPS OR CONFERENCES OR STUDY PROGRAMS AND THAT SORT OF THING, SO THAT YOU BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE FAMILIAR WITH PART OF THE PROCESS, EVEN WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PLAT AND WHAT'S ITS PURPOSE, AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, AND MAYBE IF A PROGRAM LIKE THAT IS DEVELOPING AT ONE, IT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY QUOTE CERTIFIED THROUGH THIS PROGRAM OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN LEARN WHETHER OR NOT THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN SERVING AND WOULD BE A GOOD INDICATION AS TO A COMMITMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT COME UP WITH A LOT BETTER IDEAS AND DISCUSSION DURING THE, DURING THE MEETINGS.
IF YOU HAVE MORE INSIGHT ALREADY BEFORE YOU SHOW THEM AND SIT DOWN AND START GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT EXISTED ANYWHERE.
SO ME AND JENNIFER, AS PART OF BEING PROFESSIONAL PLANNERS, WE ARE MEMBERS OF THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION.
OUR CERTIFICATIONS, UH, ARE ISSUED BY APA.
WE HAD TO DO PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO MAINTAIN THOSE CERTIFICATIONS MUCH LIKE YOU SEE WITH PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, ATTORNEYS, AND DAS CONTINUING EDUCATION, ESSENTIALLY.
UM, THEY ALSO DO A PROGRAM FOR COMMISSIONERS.
UM, SO I HAVEN'T NECESSARILY SEEN IT FOR FOLKS THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN BEING A COMMISSIONER.
I THINK IF THERE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED, PROBABLY SOME OF THE TRAINING THAT APA, UH, THE LOCAL CHAPTER, THE APA, THE TEXAS CHAPTER DOES, UM, UH, WOULD PROBABLY BE SUITABLE FOR THAT PURPOSE.
SO, UM, IN COMMUNITIES THAT WORKED IN, IN THE PAST, UM, APA ACTUALLY HAS A COMMISSIONER MEMBERSHIP OPTION.
UH, IT'S, IT'S DISCOUNTED, IT'S NOT WHAT WE PAY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THE CLE.
SO THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE US ON THE HOOK.
UM, UH, AND WE HAVE SIGNED UP OUR COMMISSION FOR THAT.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITIES AND, UH, THERE'S COMMISSIONER RATES FOR IT AS WELL WHEN WE HAVE A STATE CONFERENCE, UM, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT'S IN THE REGION, UM, THERE'S, UH, WE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW COMMISSIONERS TO ATTEND BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A PROGRAM THAT'S SPECIFICALLY TARGETED TO PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, UH, CALLED THE TEXAS SHORT COURSE.
SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY A TWO DAY SEMINAR, UH, UH, TAUGHT BY PROBABLY SOME OF THE BEST PLANNING AND LEGAL MINDS IN THE STATE.
UH, AND THEN IT'S REALLY ORIENTED TOWARDS THE, THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF YOUR ROLE.
WHAT'S ZONING, WHAT'S PLANNING REALLY GOOD PROGRAM.
UH, THEY HAVE PUBLISHED MATERIALS AS WELL.
AND, UH, WITH THE PANDEMIC, I, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT MORE WEBINAR, UM, ACTIVITY ALONG THESE LINES.
UM, I WOULD, UH, DEFINITELY LIKE TO DO SOME TRAINING WITH THE COMMISSION THIS YEAR.
THAT'S, UH, THAT BENEFITS US ALL.
UM, IT HELPS YOU IN YOUR ROLE, UH, AND HELPS THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO, UH, IF THERE'S INTEREST FROM THE COMMISSION, I'D BE HAPPY TO FACILITATE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY NORMALLY DOES THAT IS THE NEW CITY ATTORNEY NUT WHEN I STEPPED THROUGH A TRAINING CLASS WITH HER LAST YEAR, PRETTY INTENSE.
SO WE TYPICALLY PROVIDE THAT FOR NEW MEMBERS.
UM, SO WE'RE, UM, A PROCESS OF COORDINATING THAT WITH JULIE.
UM, ALSO WE COULD DO SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR THE COMMISSION, LIKE DURING A WORK SESSION.
SO IF THAT'S AN INTEREST, UM, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
UM, THE, THE TRAINING THAT I MENTIONED IS PROBABLY THAT ON STEROIDS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT A DAY LONG OR TWO DAY LONG COMMITMENT, VERY GOOD, HIGH QUALITY TRAINING.
UM, BUT, UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO FACILITATE WHATEVER BEST FITS THE COMMISSION, IF THERE'S INTEREST IN.
SO GO BACK TO WHAT DENISE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
WE HAD YOU SIT WITH THE ATTORNEY WHEN YOU FIRST COME ON AND THEN THERE'S, THERE'S NO PART TWO.
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THAT'S IT.AND I HOPE YOU REMEMBER, AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT POINT.
SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT SORT OF CONNECTS THE DOTS AS YOU GO HOME.
IF THERE'S INTEREST IN THAT, WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO DO THAT WITH YOU.
WHAT, WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO, AND I NEED TO BALANCE IT IS I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE FAMILIES, YOU HAVE JOBS, YOU HAVE LIVES.
I DON'T WANT TO AUTOMATICALLY PROGRAM YOU FOR THINGS, BUT IF THERE'S INTEREST, UH, FROM THE GROUP, ABSOLUTELY WE'LL DO THAT.
I THINK THERE'S A HYBRID THERE CAN, WHERE YOU AUTOMATICALLY PROPOSE THINGS TO US.
AND WE CAN SAY, NO, WE DON'T HAVE AN INTEREST, OR WE'RE JUST TOO BUSY, BUT I THINK ANYTHING THAT COMES ALONG, I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU OFFER IT TO US AND THEN LET US MAKE DECISIONS IN THAT.
I MEAN, AND EVEN IF THERE'S JUST THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHERE TO FIND, OR WHAT ARE THE GOODS, YOU KNOW, ONLINE SEMINARS OR WHATEVER THAT YOU BET I HAVE, NO, NO PROBLEM.
EVEN IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S A FEE FOR IT, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UM, THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT I MIGHT ADD IS, AGAIN, THIS IS A BIG INCONVENIENCE FOR ALL OF YOU, BUT I WOULD LOVE JUST WALKING AROUND AND MEETING SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE ON PNC, NOT JUST THE TWO OF YOU, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS, AS FAR AS CODE COMPLIANCE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT DRIP THAT REPORT TO YOU.
AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS COULD YOU GET SCHEDULED FOR CARROLLTON, FARMERS, BRANCH, UH, Z MEETINGS? I THINK I MIGHT JUST GO SIT IN ON ONE OF THEIRS AND JUST SEE WHAT THEY DO.
UM, AND MAYBE EVEN PLAYING OVER THAT MATTER CAN, SINCE I KNOW.
SO, UM, HAVING THAT, JUST, YOU KNOW, IF I DON'T, IF I'VE GOT A FREE NIGHT, I MIGHT JUST DECIDE TO GO SEE A FARMER'S BRANCH PTV.
, UH, ONE QUESTION ON THE TRAINING.
DO YOU KNOW IF THE COB, THE COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS, NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS, DO THEY OFFER ANY KIND OF TRAINING AND THEY, THEY DEFINITELY OFFER TRAINING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE DONE ANYTHING COMMISSIONER SPECIFIC, UM, BUT THEY OFFER A WIDE RANGE OF TRAINING.
I THINK SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT YOU'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN THAT SUSTAINABILITY, THEY DO A TON OF CHARITY DOWN.
SO THERE, THERE WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE INTEREST, UM, THINGS THAT WOULD, I THINK YOU MAY FIND INTERESTING.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS COMMISSIONER, UH, TYPE OF TRAINING IN TERMS OF THAT WE DO HERE, PROBABLY NOT AS DETAILED AS APA.
UM, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF, OF TOPICAL TRAININGS THAT, AND THEY'RE DOING A LOT MORE WEBINAR TYPE OF ITEMS AS WELL.
UM, THAT I THINK YOU'D FIND INTERESTING.
NO, IT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE HAD THAT SESSION WITH COUNCIL AND WE BASICALLY BUILT A TOWN, UM, WHICH SOME COMPONENTS OF COUNCIL AND SOME HOMELESS COMMISSION, BUT IT WAS ALSO JUST A GREAT TIME TO GET TO BOND AND KNOW OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE IN MOS.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING LIKE THOSE THAT COME ALONG, WAS THAT THE URBAN PLAN FROM ULI? I BELIEVE THERE WAS A GREAT, IT'S VERY UTILIZED DOING CONFERENCE HERE PRETTY SOON.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? BRING IT UP.
CAN, DO YOU GUYS THINK JENNIFER KNOWS ANYONE THEN? I GUESS WE ARE ADJOURNED.