* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [ Call Meeting to Order] [00:00:11] I HAVE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY. SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? THE EVALUATION ON THE CITY MANAGER IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. FIRST, BE LATE FOR THE OTHER TWO LAWSUITS RELATED AFTER THE MEETING. SO I'M GOING TO READ THIS SESSION AND 501 0 7 4 CODE TO THE APPOINTMENT, AND ONE MINUTE EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL ONLY OFFICERS OR ANY CITY MANAGERS, ANNUAL EVALUATION. SO THAT'S MOVING TO THE OTHER KEY AND [1. Present and Discuss Metrocrest Services' Request to Support Their Building Our Future Capital Campaign. ] IT SAYS WE ARE NOT ABLE TO START A REGULAR MEETING. THAT'S AT A SEVEN 30. SO WE START THE WORK SESSION FOR NUMBER ONE, THEY WOULD COME BACK RECOGNITION. PUBLIC COMMENTS RIGHT NOW, GOING TO GO BACK TO THE ONE SET SECOND SESSION. I CAN PRESENT, DISCUSS REQUEST TO SUPPORT ALL FUTURE OH, GREAT, GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BILL HALL. I AM DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. AND THE ITEM BEFORE US TONIGHT IS TO DISCUSS, UH, THE REQUEST FOR METROCREST SERVICES TO MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO THEIR BUILDING. OUR TEACHER CAPITOL CAMPAIGN. ALSO HERE TONIGHT IS TRACY. YOU WE'VE MENTIONED PRAYER SERVICES. UH, IF YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR HIM DURING THE PRESENTATION, SO ANYONE NOT FAMILIAR WITH MITCH PRESS SERVICES, THEY'RE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT SERVES THE COMMUNITY OF ACID COMMUNITIES OF ADDISON CARROLLTON AND CAPPELL PARTNERS FRANCE THEY'VE BEEN DOING SO FOR OVER 50 YEARS THROUGH PROGRAMS SUCH AS FOOD PANTRY, JOB TRAINING SKILLS, SENIOR ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, AND OTHER SUPPORT PROGRAMS TO THOSE IN NEED IN THE COMMUNITY. UH, THEY ARE SEEKING TO CONSTRUCT A NEW FACILITY THAT WILL BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY. HENCE THE BUILDING, OUR FUTURE CAPITAL CAMPAIGN, THE LETTER WAS RECEIVED BACK IN JULY. WE DISCUSSED IT AS AN ORGANIZATION AT A MEETING IN AUGUST. THEY ARE SEEKING TO RAISE $12.7 MILLION TO CONSTRUCT A 48,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMUNITY FACILITY. UH, AGAIN, SUPPORTING THE FOUR COMMUNITIES THEY'VE ASKED THE FOUR CITIES THAT ARE SERVED TO CONTRIBUTE A COMBINED $2 MILLION. AS SOME SHARE OF THAT IS $120,000. WHEN COUNCIL DISCUSSED THIS ITEM BACK IN AUGUST ON THE 24TH, YOU ASKED US TO PROVIDE YOU SOME COME BACK AND PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME INFORMATION. ONE OF IT WOULD BE A LEGAL OPINION, UH, REGARDING USING, UH, TAX DOLLARS TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. YOU ASKED US TO PROVIDE INFORMATION REGARDING WHAT THE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WERE ASKED TO SUPPORT THE BUILDING OR FUTURE CAPITAL CAMPAIGN HAD DONE OR INTENDED TO DO. AND THEN ALSO TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION REGARDING THE RETURN ON AN INVESTMENT, UH, FOR PROVIDING FUNDS TO METROCREST. SO WE WILL BE PROVIDING ANY INFORMATION TO YOU, OBVIOUSLY WITH WHY IT IS HERE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT IN SHORT, UM, CHAPTER THREE 80 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ALLOWS COMMUNITIES TO PROVIDE GRANTS AND LOANS, UM, TO PROFIT, UH, TO NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, SUCH AS PENSION CREDIT SERVICES. THE TOWN HAS ESTABLISHED A LOCAL GRANT FUNDING PROGRAM PURSUANT TO SECTION THREE 80.01 AND THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. AND WE HAVE PROVIDED, UH, FUNDING OF THAT TYPE, UH, TO, UH, NONPROFITS, INCLUDING METROCREST SERVICES. WE DID PROVIDE A DRAFT OF AN AGREEMENT WHICH WAS BUILT OFF OF COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BACK IN AUGUST AND ALSO MIRRORED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE OTHER COMMUNITIES [00:05:01] HAD DONE, UH THAT'S FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN. UM, STAFF SEEKS COUNCIL DIRECTION. ALRIGHT, SO WHAT HAD THE OTHER COMMUNITIES DONE AND CARROLLTON WILL BE HEARING THIS FOR, UM, AFTER COUNCIL MEETING IS TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR A MEETING IN JANUARY. THEY'RE PUTTING SOME FINAL TOUCHES ON THEIR AGREEMENT WITH METRO CREST. UH, CAPPELL CITY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED THAT $80,000 CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THE CAMPAIGN FARMERS BRANCH APPROVED A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING METRO CREDIT SERVICES THROUGH A GRANT OF $560,000 TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FACILITY REGARDING THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT. UM, THE TOWN RECEIVES BOTH DIRECT AND INDIRECT, UH, BENEFITS FROM THOSE INVESTMENTS FROM A DOLLAR INCENTIVE POINT OF VIEW, SOME DATA REGARDING THEIR BUDGET AND WHAT THE PANDEMIC HAS, UH, HAS HOW THAT'S IMPACTED THEIR ORGANIZATION. SO PRE PANDEMIC FIRST FULL YEAR OF 2019 PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC BUDGET OF EXPENDITURES OF $5.8 BILLION, UH, THAT HAS RISEN TO THE $12.4 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020 TO 114% INCREASE. THE NUMBER OF ADDISON RESIDENTS SERVED BY METRO PRESS. DURING THOSE SAME PERIODS INCREASED FROM 990 TO 1,246, WHICH IS A 26% INCREASE. THE TOWN MAKES AN ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION TO SUPPORT METRO CREST OF $66,120. THAT'S A 0.5%, ONE HALF AT 1% OF VENTURE CHRIS' FISCAL YEAR, THE ANNUAL BUDGET. AND THAT COVERS APPROXIMATELY 14.6% OF THE COST TO SERVE A RESIDENTS. THAT'S A, THAT NUMBER IS DOWN BECAUSE THEIR ENTIRE BUDGET HAS GROWN. UM, BUT PRE PANDEMIC, UH, THAT CONTRIBUTION WAS COVERING ABOUT 25 TO 30% OF THE COST TO SERVE ADDISON RESIDENTS. SO YOU DO THE ALGEBRA ON THAT, UH, IT'S ABOUT $450,000 WORTH OF SERVICES TO ADDISON RESIDENTS THAT, UH, UH, THIS PROVIDED BY METROCREST SERVICES. SO THAT'S A SEVEN TO ONE LENDER CHANGE OF THE CONTRIBUTION THAT THE TOWN AND THE TOWN MAKES, UH, STAFF DID NOT CALCULATE WHAT IT WOULD TRY TO COST TO BRING THOSE SERVICES IN-HOUSE AND DO THAT OURSELVES. WE KNEW THAT IT WOULD BE ASTRONOMICALLY MORE THAN THE CONTRIBUTION THAT WE MADE AND, UH, IT GOT TO BE QUITE AN EXERCISE TO TRY TO DO THAT. SO WE DID NOT, UM, THE $120,000 REQUEST AND BUILDING OUR FUTURE CAMPAIGN REPRESENTS A 0.7% OF THE TOTAL CAMPAIGN BUDGET. AND ABOUT 1.1% OF THE CONSTRUCTION ONLY COSTS FOR THAT PROJECT, UH, IN THE NEW FACILITY WILL ALLOW METRO TO ELIMINATE THE RENT THAT THEY'RE PAYING NOW FOR CURRENT FACILITY, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THAT FUNDING TO GO TOWARDS, TOWARDS THEIR PROGRAMS. WE DO HAVE LISTS OF THE NON FINANCIAL TYPE BENEFITS THAT THEY PROVIDE THROUGH THEIR NUTRITION PROGRAMS AND THEN RENT ASSISTANCE AND OTHER TYPES OF THINGS. I KNOW WE'VE GOT A FULL AGENDA AND A FULL HOUSE I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE AS THAT IS AS YOU WOULD LINE. SO AGAIN, THE FOOD PANTRY HELPS, UH, FEATURES IN THE, UH, KIDS THAT ARE NEW JURORS. THEY GROW BETTER. THEY DO BETTER IN SCHOOL, UH, FAMILIES THAT CAN PROVIDE, UH, OR, OR ARE AFFORDED, UH, FOOD THROUGH THOSE PROGRAMS ARE ABLE TO PAY THEIR OTHER BILLS. AND FOR NECESSITIES, SENIORS GET BETTER NUTRITION, CHRONICALLY ILL AND DISABLED PEOPLE CAN GET ADDITIONAL NUTRIENTS THAT THEY NEED AND LOW INCOME FAMILIES THAT ARE PROVIDED FOOD TO HAVE ADDITIONAL MONEY TO MEET THEIR BASIC NEEDS. SO JOBS TRAINING PROGRAMS THAT THEY DO, UH, HELPS THOSE SEEKING JOBS HELPS THEM GET BETTER JOBS, HELPS EMPLOYERS FIND, UH, BETTER EMPLOYEES AND MORE PRODUCTIVE EMPLOYEES. SO THE LOCAL ECONOMY BENEFITS THEIR RENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM HELPS AVOID HOMELESSNESS, UH, OVERCROWDING, IF SOMEONE IS EVICTED, THEY MOVE IN WITH SOMEBODY ELSE. IF YOU HAVE ISSUES, THEY'RE LANDLORDS ARE BETTER ABLE TO THE PROPERTIES WHEN VACANCIES ARE AVOIDED. UM, AND THEN METROCREST BENEFITS FAMILIES THROUGH THEIR SENIOR PROGRAMS. AGAIN, NUTRITIOUS MEALS, OTHER PROGRAMS, KEEPING THEM ACTIVE, KEEPING THEM INVOLVED. AND THEY HAVE REGULAR CONTACT FROM VOLUNTEERS WHO LOOK OUT FOR THEIR WELLBEING. SO AGAIN, DIRECT DIRECTLY METRIC PRESS DIRECTLY PROVIDES JOBS IN THE COMMUNITY, PROVIDE VOLUNTEER AND NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES, HELP CONTRIBUTE TO A SENSE OF COMMUNITY, REDUCE THE DEMAND ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND OTHER GOVERNMENTAL RESOURCES. AND BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE THESE SERVICES, THE TOWN ITSELF HAS TO, UH, GET IN THE BUSINESS AND PROVIDING THIS. WE DID PROVIDE A SAMPLE OF AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN DISCUSS LATER. THAT JUST LAYS OUT AGAIN, THE ISSUES OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE DISCUSSED BEFORE AND MIRRORS. WE THINK THE POSITIVE ASPECTS OF WHAT THE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ALREADY AT JOHN AND INTEND TO DO SO WITH THAT, HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. YES. UH, ON THE AUGUST 24TH MEETING TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE. I THINK MR. TRACY, WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF REQUEST SERVICES [00:10:02] MADE A PRESENTATION AND THEN, UH, DEPUTY MAYOR OF THIS CONTRIBUTION FOR THE $120,000 TO FEEL THIS NEAL FACILITY. SO I WANT TO INVITE, UH, DEPUTY MAYOR PROTEAN, PAUL ONE. THANK YOU, MIRA. UH, BILL TO MY UNDERSTANDING, NOTHING HAS CHANGED WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THIS IS A PURE CAR, PURE DONATION. THERE IS NO QUID PRO QUO HERE. THERE'S NO SERVICES TO BE, UH, TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR AND PROVIDED TO THE CITIZENS OF ANISSA. UNLIKE WHEN WE PAY THEM FOR, UH, UH, 66,000 SOMETHING DOLLARS THAT, UH, THAT WE HAVE TYPICALLY ALLOCATED AND SAID, IS THAT A FAIR UNDERSTANDING? OKAY. AND WE'LL MAKE IT ALSO, UH, HAVE THE ATTORNEY WEIGH IN TO MAKE SURE PLEASE SO THAT I DON'T MISSPEAK. AND IT'S IN SECTION 4.2 OF THE DRAFT AGREEMENT SHOWS THAT DELIVERABLES MORE OR LESS OF WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, THAT THEY WOULD EXPAND PROGRAMS THAT WOULD HAVE CERTAIN THINGS. SO WITH UNDER, UNDER THE THREE 80 AGREEMENT, WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED, UH, ESSENTIALLY THOSE WOULD BE THE PUBLIC BENEFITS WITH MICROPHONE. THANK YOU. AND BILL, UH, MAYOR COUNCIL, THE ITEMS WE HAVE LISTED THERE IN THE AGREEMENT ARE STATED OSTENSIBLY, THE PUBLIC BENEFITS THAT WE RECEIVE FROM METRO CREST AND THE DATE AND PROVIDE, UH, IN AN ENHANCED MANNER, UM, WITH THEIR NEW, LARGER FACILITY, THAT WOULD BE THE, THE IN KIND OF RETURN, UH, THAT STATED IN THE AGREEMENT. WELL, THIS SEEMS TO BE DIFFERENT TO ME, UM, THAT WE, WE HAVE A QUEENSLAND FOR PROVIDING SPECIFIC SERVICES. WHEN WE GIVE THEM, UH, A DONATION FOR CONTRACT, EXCUSE ME, DONATIONS, IT'S CAR TRIP SERVICES. THERE THEY'RE A VENDOR, THEY'RE A VENDOR. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE. THEY'RE A VENDOR. WE NEED TO CONSIDER THEM LIKE ANY OTHER VENDOR THAT WE CONTRACT WITH. OKAY, THAT'S ALL THIS IS. AND, AND I'M, I'M A BIG FAN OF METRO CREST SERVICES, BIG FAN. THEY DO GREAT WORK. THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION. Y'ALL I THINK, I JUST WONDER IF, UH, NEXT TIME, IF, IF WOVEN CLINIC, UH, SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE CAN BUILD A BIGGER CLINIC AND, AND, AND WE TALK ABOUT, WELL, THEY DO THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER AND ALL GOOD THINGS, ALL GOOD THINGS FOR THE CITIZENS OF MADISON, ALSO THE METRICS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? YOU GAVE $120,000 TO METRIC LIST, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT WITH WOVEN SO THAT WE ARE, SO NOBODY PAID HIM WITH THIS BRUSH. THEN I DON'T LIKE METRO QUEST, BUT I DON'T THINK WHAT THEY DO IS LIE OR RUN AT YOUR SERVICE OR KINGDOM WORK. NONE OF THAT'S TRUE. WE HAVE A FIDUCIARY DUTY HERE AT Y'ALL AND WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW TO SPEND TAX PAYER DOLLARS. AND IF WE WERE CONTRACTING WITH METRO CREST TO PROVIDE SPECIFIC SERVICES THAT I COULD MEASURE AND HAVE METRICS ON, I'D BE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS. IF I HAD A REASONABLE ARGUMENT FOR THAT, BUT THIS IS A, THIS IS THE DONATION. THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID. WE WANT YOU TO DONATE TO THIS. AND IN SPITE OF WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYS, AND HE TALKS ABOUT ALL THESE WONDERFUL THINGS. YES. THAT THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DO A LOT OF WONDERFUL THINGS. OKAY. BUT A LOT OF YOU, THAT'S NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO ADDISON CITIZENS. I CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR THAT ONE. SO I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO BE CAREFUL, I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT WITH THIS. I'M GOING TO SAY, I LOOK AT IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT LIGHT. I MEAN, YOU'RE YOU SAY THAT IT'S YOU WANT THEM TO BE A VENDOR? I MEAN, IF THEY WERE UNDER TO ME, I WOULD BE PAYING $450,000 THIS YEAR FOR THE SERVICES THAT GAVE TO OUR RESIDENTS. NOW, I, I, I SEE THIS, THIS NEW FACILITY AS IN THE LONG RUN, SAVING US MONEY I'M OVER, OVER TIME BECAUSE WE STOLE IT. THERE'S STILL THAT NEED OUT THERE TO HELP THE HEALTHY CITIZENS. SO I THINK IN THE LONG RUN, BY NOT PAYING, HAVING TO PAY RENT ON FACILITY, OUR COSTS ARE NOT GOING TO ESCALATE AS FAST OR REDUCE THE COST. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT, YOU'RE GIVING THEM MONEY, BUT IN THE LONG RUN, [00:15:01] WE'RE GETTING MORE, NO MATTER WHAT, EVEN WITH THAT, WE'RE GETTING WAY MORE SERVICES TO OUR PEOPLE, WHICH HAVE SHOWED US YEAR AFTER YEAR, THAT WHAT WE ACTUALLY, AND WE CANNOT AFFORD PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES AND START UP OUR OWN CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION TO PROVIDE SERVICES. BUT THE BABY, THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY IS EVERYBODY IS EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT METRO CREST IS THAT THEY'RE NOT JUST GIVING A HANDOUT TO THESE PEOPLE, OR LIKE THEY SAY, THEY'RE GIVING A HAND UP. SO THEY'RE TRAINING. THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YEAH, PEOPLE RUN INTO DIFFICULTIES AND NEED, THEY NEED SOME ASSISTANCE, BUT THEIR GOAL IS, AND WHAT THEY ARE REALLY GOOD AT IS GETTING PEOPLE OUT ON THEIR OWN AND BE SELF-SUPPORTIVE AND BE CONTRIBUTING CITIZENS TO, OUT OF BEING SUPPORTIVE THIS YEAH. UM, FOR THE REASONS THAT, UH, THAT TOM MENTIONED, UH, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT TOO, IS I'M LOOKING AT METRO CROSS AND ALL OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS AS PARTNERS. AND I THINK THAT THE $450,000 THAT THEY'VE ASCERTAINED THAT WE RECEIVE AS A COMMUNITY, AS A LOW NUMBER, I THINK IT'S HARD TO PUT A VALUE ON HELPING OUR COMMUNITY AVOID HOMELESSNESS ON THE STREETS AND OZ AND CAROLYN AND FARMER'S BRANCH AND, AND COMPOUND. I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND THE METRO CROSS FAMILY OF COMMUNITIES TO SAY, WE WANT TO DO OUR PART. AND IN THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS, $120,000 IS A SMALL PRICE TO PAY FOR THAT, THAT, THAT WE GET, UM, THAT THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES. AND I THINK THAT METRO CRISIS IN PARTICULAR IS A CROWN JEWEL OF THIS COMMUNITY. WHEN I THINK ABOUT PRIDE AND BEING PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, UH, METRO CREST SERVICES IS ALWAYS TOP OF MIND. UM, THEY'RE STRIVING TO BECOME, UH, YOU KNOW, DEBT-FREE, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING TO GET AWAY FROM RENTING AND CONSOLIDATING SERVICES SO THAT THEY CAN GIVE BACK AND BRING MORE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY AND REDUCE THE BURDEN ON THE TOWN. UM, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE FIDUCIARY OR LEGAL ON OUR PART IF WE WERE JUST, YOU KNOW, GIVING OUT MONEY WILLY NILLY, UH, TO ANYONE THAT ASKS. BUT I THINK THAT AS A COUNCIL AT EXTREMELY PRUDENT AND MAKING FINANCIAL DECISIONS AS IT RELATES TO MAKING DONATIONS TO OUR PARTNERS, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T VIEW METRO CREST AS A VENDOR, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION. AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY FOR MOST OF MY CAREER, ALL OF MY CAREER. SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE BUSINESS NUANCES AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION, UM, AS FAR AS YOUR PHILOSOPHY GOES ABOUT GOVERNMENT PARTICIPATION AND, AND, UH, USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO FUND THE PROGRAMS. BUT I FEEL LIKE IN THIS INSTANCE, UM, FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT TOM MENTIONED, THE REASONS THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE PRESENTATION AND THE EVIDENCE THAT WE CAN SEE ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS AT THE GREAT THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. UH, I FULLY SUPPORT THIS. IT'S COMPLETELY AGREE WITH ME, SIR. THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR, I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO CREEK ALL HERE ON THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS HERE AS, AS THE TOWN, UH, ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING THIS MONEY. I AGREE WITH HIM ON THAT. IT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE. WHAT I, WHAT I DON'T AGREE WITH IS PROVIDING THAT, OR ASSUME, OR TREATING THEM AS THOUGH THEY'RE GOING TO BE PAID A PROVIDER, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BEING HAS TO HAVE MORE GUIDANCE. SO MCDONALD, WELL CONSOLIDATING, CONSOLIDATING THEIR COSTS. WE'VE ASKED ABOUT THE LEGALITY ON, I'M HAPPY WITH WHAT WE HEARD ON THE LEGALITY AND THE ROI PROVES THAT THAT IS A WISE INVESTMENT TIME. I AM GOING TO SUPPORT PROVIDING THIS MONEY. HOWEVER, I'M GOING TO BE HERE NEXT YEAR AND FOLLOWING YEAR, OR AT LEAST I'M GOING TO BE LEANING ON ANY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S IN HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE GETTING OUR MONEY'S WORTH AS, AS, AS RESIDENTS. SO, UM, I PLAN ON SUPPORTING, OKAY, THANK YOU. MA'AM UM, I I'M WHERE PAUL IS RIGHT NOW. I THINK [00:20:01] IF WE, WELL, LET ME BACK UP. UM, WE, I LOVE WHAT METRO CREST SERVICES HAS BEEN DOING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE HAVE BEEN A HUGE SUPPORTER. UM, I THINK TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT 257,000 OR MORE, UH, IN PAYMENTS THIS YEAR ALONE. UM, SO WE, WE DO SUPPORT THEM AND WE DO SUPPORT THEM IN A BIG WAY, BUT I THINK IF YOU DO THIS, UH, WE'RE CALLING IT, I THINK WE'LL CALL IT A REIMBURSEMENT GRANT. UH, THIS BASICALLY A GRANT WE'RE GIVING MONEY FOR A BUILDING, UM, FOLKS ARE GONNA LINE UP, UH, IN THE FUTURE AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE DOING A RENOVATION AND WE KNOW WHAT YOU IN THE PAST, OR THIS IS JUST LIKE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT I CAN SEE. UM, I THINK ABOUT WOVEN. THAT WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE. I THINK ABOUT, UH, THE, THE ADDED CONFERENCE ROOM THAT, UH, METRO CARE, UH, SERVICES JUST RECENTLY DID I THINK OF, UH, UH, WHAT THE CABIN, ALL FLIGHT MUSEUM HAS JUST SIGNED OFF ON, UH, FOR THE RENOVATION THROUGH THEREFORE HANGERS. SO I JUST, I THINK THIS IS A BAD DRESS THAT WE'RE GONNA, THIS IS GOING TO COME BACK TO A SPOT, A LOT OF OTHERS. AND I, I LOVE SUPPORTING THAT REPAIR SERVICES AND CONTINUE DOING THAT, BUT NOT IN THIS WAY. YOU KNOW WHAT, SINCE HURRICANE KATRINA BACK TO 2005, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I EXPERIENCE AND WHAT A METRO CRESA, THIS HAS DONE FOR TOM EDISON, AND WE HAVE 200 SONG EVACUEES COMING FROM NEW AUDIENCE. THEY HAD DONE SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB AT HELPING THOSE PEOPLE WITH HOT FOOD. YOU KNOW, IT TOUCHED MY HEART. SO I BELIEVE THE OF THAT, THEN EVERYBODY AUTOMATIC INCREASE ON FUNDING FOR THEM IN A SENSE OF PANDEMIC. YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, WE HAVE DONATED 400 LUNCHES TO MATCH REQUEST SERVICES. I BROUGHT OVER MYSELF, SO I KNOW WHAT THEY HAVEN'T DONE. AND TRACY YULE BANKS, YOU KNOW, SINCE HE TOOK OVER AS PRESIDENT CEO OF THIS ORGANIZATION, HE HAD DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB. AND IF, IF YOU WANT THE CITY TO HAVE A DEPARTMENT TO DO WHAT THEY DO, WE WOULD NEVER DO THIS GOOD JOB PROFESSIONALLY. AND IT'D PROBABLY COST US MUCH MORE, COSTS MORE MONEY TO DO IT. SO WE JUST PROPORTIONALLY PAY FOR ALL SERVICES. SO AS A MATTER OF FACT, KILLED HAS A SMALL POPULATION. THEY CONTRIBUTED MUCH MORE. AND THEN EVEN THOUGH WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO STEP, THEY HAVEN'T FINISHED THEIR COUNCIL MEETING YET FABIO RANCH CONTRIBUTED 560,000, ALL RIGHT. AND THEN CAPELL CONTRIBUTED 80,000 IS NOT APPROVED. SO AS FAR AS FOR US 120,000, I BELIEVE THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST. BESIDES LAST MEETING WHERE I TALKED ABOUT IT ASIDE, UM, DEPUTY MAYOR PUTIN WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE GARRETY, HOW CAN WE INCOME JUGULAR AND DONATE THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY? SO I'LL SEE THAT TONY ADI DID IT RESEARCH, IT'S ALL ILLEGAL. AND BY DONATING THIS MONEY SO WE CAN EXPEND THE SERVICES FOR THE FUTURE. SO IN THE FUTURE PROPERTY, THEY CAN EVEN SAVE US EVEN MUCH MORE MONEY BY SERVING MORE PEOPLE IN NEED. SO, BECAUSE OF THAT, IT ALSO CAN REDUCE THE CRIMES. YOU UNDERSTAND, WHEN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE FOOD, THEY CAN PAY THE RENT, THEY CAN'T PAY THEIR UTILITIES, THEY WILL DO SOMETHING SILLY, RIGHT. BUT WHEN THEY FEEL SOMEBODY, SOME ORGANIZATION CAN HELP THEM, THEY FEEL READY TO HELP THEM. YOU HELP THEM TO TRAIN THEM WITH THE JOB SKILL SO THEY CAN STAND UP AGAIN, FIND A BETTER JOB. SO I'M TOTALLY FOR IT BECAUSE EVERY TIME THEY ASKED ME TO DO SOMETHING PERSONAL THAT I WANT TO DO, NO, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WITHIN YOUR ABILITY, IF YOU CAN HELP YOUR COMMUNITY, I THINK IT'S ALWAYS, I THINK, TO DO LAST MEETING, THE REASON WE HAVE THIS SESSION TODAY, BECAUSE, UH, DEVIN MAY HAVE HOTEL WAS ASKING ABOUT YOU GATHERED THIS CONTRIBUTION. SO NOW WE ALREADY RESOLVED. SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM. [00:25:01] AND I THINK I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS MAYOR. JUST ONE COMMENT. UH, IF YOU RECALL, FROM THE LAST MEETING, WHEN THIS WAS DISCUSSED, THERE WAS A DESIRE BY THE COUNCIL TO OBVIOUSLY GET THE QUESTION ABOUT THE GALLERY RETURN ON INVESTMENT, ET CETERA. BUT THEN THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION ABOUT UTILIZING THE FEDERAL FUNDS THAT THE TOWN RECEIVED AS OPPOSED TO TAXES OR ARE GENERATED BY THE PROPERTY TAX RATE. UH, SO IF, IF, AND WHEN THIS COMES FORWARD AGAIN, WE WANT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS CLEAR. IS THAT THE MONEY THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE RP DOLLARS, I'M APOLOGIZING, CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE ACRONYM THAT AT THE MOMENT, BUT THE AUTO. YEAH, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT R STANDS FOR. I'M SORRY. BUT THOSE DOLLARS WOULD COME FROM THAT RPO, THE CONTRIBUTION THAT, THAT THE TOWN RECEIVED FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, JUST THE REMINDER. SO ANY MORE QUESTIONS? SO, UH, I REALLY LIKED TO ASK TRACY, YOU BACK TO SIT OFF YOUR WORDS. YOU WANT TO JUST COME OVER HERE. I HAVE A MICROPHONE, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANKS FOR THE CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT FOR DECADES. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON, CONTRIBUTED THIS PAST YEAR AND A HALF OR SO THROUGH SOME OF THE CARES FUNDING THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED, THAT WE APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE DO. OUR NUMBERS HAVE GROWN OBVIOUSLY, OR MONITOR THAT BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. UH, WE WERE ALREADY NOT ONLY ADDED SPACE, BUT POVERTY WAS GROWING IN OUR COMMUNITY. HOUSING, INSTABILITY WAS GROWING IN OUR COMMUNITY. FOOD INSECURITY HAD BEEN GROWING IN OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY MOM, CHILDREN, AND SENIORS, WE'RE FINDING. AND SO THIS PROJECT FOR US WAS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DOING FOR YEARS. AND THE PANDEMIC JUST REINFORCED THE MAGNIFY, THE NEED FOR THIS PROJECT. WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO FIND PROPERTY AT THE EPICENTER OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE AT JOSIE AND BELTLINE. THEY'RE STRAIGHT SHOT TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE AND LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD OF PEOPLE THAT ARE CLIENTS TODAY. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT BEING AT THAT LOCATION. UH, THE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS FACILITY ISN'T TO TAKE ON LONG TERM PROGRAMS. IT IS TO MAKE SURE WE DO WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE BETTER. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOCUS ON THE SELF-SUFFICIENCY SELF-SUFFICIENCY AND INDEPENDENCE ASPECT OF OUR MISSION. IT'S ALL ABOUT HELPING PEOPLE WITH JOBS, TRANSFORMING THE JOBS, WORKING FOR GREAT EMPLOYEES, LIVABLE WAGES, BENEFITS, GETTING JOB TRAINING, AND GOING BACK TO SCHOOL AND WORKING WITH DALLAS COLLEGE AND MAYBE DOING EDUCATION CERTIFICATION TRAINING AT OUR SITE. SO WE'RE COMMITTED TO OUR MISSION. OUR MISSION IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. UNFORTUNATELY, OUR NUMBERS ARE GROWING, GO RUN THE PANDEMIC AND THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE THAT ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT GETTING THERE. I WISH WE COULD BUILD A BUILDING IN A MONTH. WE'RE GOING TO START CONSTRUCTION IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY. WE'LL BE FINISHED IN THE SPRING, AND THIS WOULD BE GREATLY NEEDED. AT THAT TIME. THERE WILL BE A COMMUNITY SPACE, A GATHERING PLACE. ANOTHER AREA OF FOCUS FOR US IS HOUSING STABILITY. I KNOW WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT THAT ON COMMUNITIES, ABOUT FOLKS WHO ARE TRULY STRUGGLING PAYING FOR THEIR HOUSING. HOUSING IS NOT AFFORDABLE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THINGS THAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE MOVING OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND NO LONGER OUR NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BE HERE. SO OUR JOB IS TO HELP WITH THAT. WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THE SPENDING. WE HAVE, AS BOTH MENTIONED, I WORKED AT OTHER CITIES, UH, UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, CARROLLTON, UH, WILL VOTE ON AT THE END OF JANUARY, THEY SHOULD COUNT THEM. THEY HAD THE, WE SAID, DECEMBER IS IT'S GOING TO BE IN CARROLLTON AND THEY WANNA MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO START DOING A LOT OF DAY PROGRAMS, PROGRAMS LIKE A SOUP KITCHEN OR HOUSING OR OTHER THINGS THAT WE DON'T DO. WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO. WE WOULD NEVER DO. UH, AND SO WE'VE ALREADY STRUCK THAT AND WE'LL VOTE ON THAT LITTLE MAP IN JANUARY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS FOR ME. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. UH, OBVIOUSLY WE APPRECIATE THE FUNDING EVERY YEAR. UH, WE DON'T COUNT ON EVERY YEAR. WE KIND OF PRESENT EVERY YEAR AND WE WOULD EXPECT YOU AND NEVER HAVE EXPECTED ANY OF OUR CITIES TO COVER ALL THE CAUSES THAT DREW US TO GO RAISE TO THE PARK WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE UTILIZE TO SERVE PATTERSON RESIDENCE. YES, SIR. ONE QUESTION, IF YOU SAY, UH, YOU EXPECT POSSIBLE COMPLETION IN SPRING OF 23, I DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT STILL BY SPRING OF 2023. COME ON UNDERSTAND. WE'LL START IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY OF 22 WILL OPEN IN 23 COULD BE SOONER, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'D EXPECT AT THIS POINT. WE'LL CONTINUE TO OPERATE OUT OF OUR CURRENT FACILITY. WE HAVE INCREASED STAFF BY 20% THIS YEAR, SO WE'RE GONNA START UNDERSTAND A LOT MORE CLIENTS, A LOT MORE NEED. [00:30:01] UM, AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO AND SERVE THE RESIDENTS AS WELL AS THE REST OF THIS, THE METRIC, ANY MORE QUESTIONING TRACY, OH, BY THE WAY, ALL PI IS AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO MAYOR COUNCIL, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION AND THE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT, WE WILL BRING AN ITEM BACK FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION IN JANUARY, AND THEN COUNCIL COULD DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AT THAT TIME. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO, UM, [ Announcements and Acknowledgments Regarding Town and Council Events and Activities Presentation of Proclamation to Don and Barbara Daseke Discussion of Meetings / Events] TO, UH, SKIP THIS SECOND WORK SESSION ITEM AND TO RECOGNIZE, AND, UH, MR AND MRS. DON DAWSON AND THE PRESENTATION PROCLAMATION TO DOC AND THE BARBRA UDACITY. SO, SO I WILL READ THIS PUBLICATION, THEN I WILL ASK YOU IF THERE IS A RATHER LONG, BUT I WAS SKIPPING A LITTLE BIT BY THE MAYOR, OR WE HAD A SON. WHAT HAS BOB RIDE WITH DON DAWSON? HE HAD BEEN RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON FOR NEARLY TWO DECADES. THIS LONG-TIME RESIDENTS ARE NOT ONLY ILLUSTRIOUS TO PUT YOURS, BUT ALSO INVOLVED IN MANY PHILANTHROPIC ENDEAVORS IN SUPPORT OF ARTS EDUCATION. WHEREAS DON DUSKY HAS DEDICATED HIMSELF TO SOLVING THE TOM MADISON IN A VARIETY OF CAPACITIES, INCLUDING SERVING ON ADDISON CITY COUNCIL FROM 2009 TO 11, ACTING AS A MAYOR. POTAIN IN 2010 AND IT'S PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION FROM 2005 TO 2009, AS WELL AS ON THE WATERFALL THEATER BOARD OF DIRECTORS. AND WHAT I ASKED DON DOWNSCALE FATHER SUCCESS IN MULTIPLE INDUSTRIES, INCLUDING TED TEDDY COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGY, REAL ESTATE AND CHARTING IN 2008, HE FOUNDED A DOMESTICATE INC IN EDISON AND GREW IT INTO THE LARGEST FLATBED, SPECIALIZED TRANSPORTATION AND LOGISTICS SOLUTIONS COMPANY BEING THE WEALTH. IS THAT CORRECT? SCOTT? WHAT, AND, UH, BARBARA DUSKY IS PARTNERING SUCCESS. HE HAS ALSO EX JAW AUDITORY, UM, ENTREPRENEUR WHO LAUNCHED AN INTERIOR DESIGN COMPANY AT THE AGE OF 22 AND QUAID AND, UH, WONDER WINNING INTERNATIONAL, NON THE FILM FROM THAT HAS BEEN FEATURED IN MULTIPLE TIMES BEING THE HOME AS WELL, THE BEST DESIGN FIRMS IN DALLAS. IT'S ALL TRUE. RIGHT. I KNOW AS BABA DUSKY HAS ALSO SERVED AS A STAUNCH ADVOCATE FOR THE ARTS, NOT ONLY ADDISON AS A MEMBER OF THE ONE CALL THEATER BOARD OF DIRECTORS, BUT ALSO FOR THE LARGE, MOST STATUS ARTS COMMUNITIES IN HER POSITION ON THE BOARD OF THE SMUS MADDOW'S MUSEUM OF THE ARTS HAS DON AND BARBARA HAVE BEEN GIVEN THEIR TIME, TALENTS AND GENEROSITY TO SUPPORTING OTHER LOCAL DOLLARS INITIATIVES IN CODING. THE DALLAS SYMPHONY, THE DALLAS MUSEUM OF ARTS, THE ARTS COMMUNITY ALLIANCE, AND THE DAWSON ZOO AMONG MANY OTHERS. AND WHAT HAS UDACITY AND EQUITY LOCALLY EXEMPLIFIED THE POWER TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE THROUGH THOUGHTFUL, SELFLESS, KIND OF HARMONY, THE DEEDS AND SERVANT LEADERSHIP AND BONDING SPIRIT, PASSION, AND COMMITMENT TO ONE CHILDRESS EMBODIED THEIR HEART AND HUMANITY OF ALL TIME. AGAIN, WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE POSITIVE, FAR REACHING IMPACT OF FUTURE MAKING THEM WELL. THE EDISON'S GREATEST AMBASSADORS, THERE ARE MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON. NOW THAT WAS FOR JOE CHILD MAYOR, TOM ADDISON, AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY CONSOLE RECOGNIZED DON AND THE BARBARA DUSKY DAY, THE ONLY DO IT FULLY [00:35:01] EXECUTED THIS DAY, DECEMBER 14TH, 2021. YEAH, UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND EVERYONE HERE OF ALISON IS, UH, A LOVE OR BARBARA AND ME, AND WE LOVE THIS COMMUNITY. AND AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, OR WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING OUT OF ADDISON AND THE, BUT THIS HAS BEEN A LABOR OF LOVE, AND WE REALLY FEEL LIKE PARTNERS WITH THIS COMMUNITY. UH, WE LIVED HERE, WE STARTED OUR COMPANIES HERE. UH, KATHLEEN'S HUSBAND WAS PART OF THAT COMPANY AS WELL. AND SO THIS IS THE ADDISON IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US. THE COMPANY IS ON THE ASPECT NOW AND IT'S GROWN. AND THIS YEAR WAS SAID OF NOTHING 15 YEARS AGO. THAT'D BE VERY SIGNIFICANT TODAY AND WE'RE, WE LOVE THIS COMMUNITY. WE'VE BEEN PART OF IT FOR A LONG TIME. OUR HEARTS ARE STILL GOING TO BE HERE. AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THIS RECOGNITION IN THIS, THIS MOMENT, DITTO TO EVERYTHING. UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S SO FUN TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU'RE FROM MADISON. I HAD THIS HAPPEN SO MANY TIMES, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO YOU LIVE? AND I SAID, OH MY GOSH, I'VE HEARD SO MANY THINGS ABOUT ALISON. AND SO IT'S REALLY FUN TO BE THERE. PEOPLE KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESS HERE, BUT PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT LIVING HERE AS MUCH AS WE DO. SO WE'RE BIG ADVERTISERS AND WE DO LOVE EVERY MINUTE OF IT. WE REALLY DO. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE. [ Public Comment The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to public hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.] ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL JUST GIVE IT TO POVERTY COMMENT. SO, UH, I HAVE A THREE PEOPLE SAT ON THE CAR. SO THE FIRST ONE IS VALERIE. HI, I'M VALERIE COLLINS. I LIVE AT 1 46, 6, 8 WAYSIDE COURT. UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE OUTDOOR FITNESS GYM. THE IS WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ACROSS FROM THE ATHLETIC FEEL. THE USE AND FUNCTION IS NOT APPROPRIATE THAT THIS LOCATION WE'RE NOT AGAINST HAVING AN OUTDOOR FITNESS TRIP. WE JUST FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE UP IN ADDISON SO YOUNG AND NOT TO TAKE AWAY THE GREEN SPACE OVER IN LATE LAST PART, I SENT YOU THE PETITION AND I WENT AND KNOCKED ON DOOR BY DOOR, 108 SIGNATURES. AND I HAVE A FEW SUPPORTERS HERE. UM, SO WE'D LIKE TO GET A FEELING FOR WHERE YOU STAND ON THIS. DID WE TALK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT? OR, YOU KNOW, TONIGHT, IT'S JUST, YOU CAN MAKE WHATEVER COMMENTS YOU WANT. IT'S NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA FOR CONVERSATION. IT COULD BE AT A FUTURE MEETING, BUT TONIGHT IS JUST TO HEAR YOUR CONGRESS, HEAR YOUR COMMENTS. SO THAT'S, AGAIN, IT'S LIKE NUMBER ONE, YOU'RE TAKING AWAY OUR GREEN SPACE. UM, AND AGAIN, HAVING AN OPEN STRUCTURE AND THE PART, WE ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT ISSUES WITH CRIME, [00:40:01] UNWANTED, UH, SITUATIONS COMING, BRINGING IT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. SO NEXT SPEAKER IS DUDDY WATSON MIRROR CHILD, WHO SAID THIS, THE COUNCIL, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN W WATSON 1 4 6, 7 2 WAYSIDE COURT, ADDISON. I PERSONALLY AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THE EQUIPMENT, UH, THINGS, AN OUTDOOR GYM AT ALL, AND CERTAINLY NOT IN THIS LOCATION. UH, BUILDING MATERIALS, ANY MATERIALS DETERIORATE OVER TIME, MAINTENANCE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. UH, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT IT'S A GOOD LOCATION BECAUSE I TAKE MY YOUNG GRANDCHILDREN UP TO THE PARK ON A REGULAR BASIS. UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL, UH, AND THE LOCATION ADJACENT TO THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT FOR CHILDREN. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S APPROPRIATE. I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SPENDS TOO MUCH MONEY, JUST WILLY NILLY, SPIN, SPIN WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. AND THIS IS NOT A GOOD INVESTMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT AN EFFICIENT USE OF FUNDS. SO I THINK YOU SHOULDN'T BE RECONSIDERED AT THIS LOCATION. SO THE NEXT SPEAKER IS QUESTING ROCK. HI, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PRESTON WILD AND I'M LIVE AT 1 46, 6 9, AND MY SIDE COURT IN MADISON. AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING THIS OUTDOOR, UH, EXERCISE STRUCTURE. I'VE SEEN OUTDOOR EXERCISE STRUCTURES LIKE THIS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES. AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE THAT TYPICALLY THESE STRUCTURES ARE NOT WELL USED INITIALLY, PERHAPS, BUT OVER THE YEARS, THEY, PEOPLE DO NOT REALLY GRAVITATE TOWARDS THESE. UM, THEY AS DEADLY, SO STATED MR. WATSON, THEY DETERIORATE OVER TIME. I'M NOT SURE THE DEMOGRAPHIC THAT YOU'RE APPEALING TO AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION, RIGHT. ADJACENT TO THE, UH, THE CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND. UM, USUALLY THERE'S, YOU KNOW, PARENTS THERE WITH THEIR KIDS. THESE ARE VERY YOUNG KIDS. PARENTS HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO DEVOTE TO EXERCISING WHILE THEIR CHILDREN ARE ON THE PLAYGROUND. THEY'RE TOO BUSY SUPERVISING. UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF WALL STRUCTURE OR VOLLEYBALL COURTS THAT ARE OVER THERE, THIS IS APPEALING TO THE YOUNGER AGE GROUP, AND THEY'RE OUT THERE TO INTERACT WITH ONE ANOTHER. THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE TO, TO EXERCISE INDIVIDUALLY ON THIS, UH, EXERCISE STRUCTURE. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS IS A WELL THOUGHT OUT USE OF TAXPAYER MONEY. AND I ALSO CONCUR WITH THE USE OF THE LOCATION. THE, UH, I THINK THAT THE PICNIC AREA THAT'S OVER THERE IS I SEE IT AS A VERY WELL USED, UH, USE OF TAXPAYER MONEY. PEOPLE USE THAT, THAT, UH, AREA ON A REGULAR BASIS AS, UH, TO RELAX, TO GO THERE AND HAVE PICNICS. AND SO I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT AREA TAKEN AWAY FOR THAT PARTICULAR USE. AND I JUST THINK IT'S A POOR PLANNING AND THE USE OF THAT SPACE. I THINK IT'S POOR PLANNING AND USE OF THAT MONEY FOR THAT PARTICULAR ITEM. I, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO GET A GREAT DEAL OF USE FOR EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I DO HAVE A GENTLEMEN, PAUL KANYE FILL OUT THIS CARD TO OPPOSE THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION LOAN FOR THIS, UH, ALL DOOR, UH, EXERCISE EQUIPMENT, BUT HE DOESN'T WANT TO SPEAK, IS THAT CORRECT? MR. KANYE. ALL RIGHT, [2. Present and Discuss Draft Updates to the Commercial Vehicle Parking Ordinance.] LET'S CONTINUE OUR WORK SESSION. NUMBER TWO, [00:45:03] ITEM NUMBER TWO, PRESENT DISCUSS UPDATES TO THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE. 40 MINUTES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, JEFF, THANK YOU. AMERICA COUNCIL, PAUL SPENCER, SHEEP AND POLICE. OUR PRESENTATION TODAY IS GOING TO BE OVER OUR COMMERCIAL A PARTY ORDINANCE. AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS. YOU HAVE COUNCIL OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN AND GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ON, ON SOME POSSIBLE CHANGES. UH, THE PURPOSE OF OUR WORK SESSION IS TO DEFINE OUR PROBLEM WITH OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE LANGUAGE. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO FIND COMMERCIAL VEHICLES THAT PERTAIN SO PARKING IN RESIDENTIAL, RESIDENTIAL AREAS OF ADDISON. WE'RE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT OUR CURRENT SITUATION WITH MANY OF OUR MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, AND WE'LL FACILITATE A DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL AND GET FEEDBACK PART ORDINANCE UPDATE, WELL BACKGROUND, UH, OUR COMMERCIAL VEHICLE PARKING COMPLAINTS, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS HAVE BECOME MORE FREQUENT. AND BECAUSE OF THAT REQUEST TO THE TOWN, A RESPONSE TO THESE REQUESTS, THE ASAM POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFF IDENTIFIED THE NEED TO UPDATE OUR SECTION 78 DASH 1 7 5 OF THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE PARKING ORDINANCE, WHICH GOVERNS ENFORCEMENT, THESE COMPLAINTS, A BRIEF REMINDER OF OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE SECTION 78, 1 75. THE TITLE IS OVERNIGHT PARKING OF TRUCKS AND BUSES WITH MORE THAN THREE QUARTER TIME RATED CAPACITY WITHIN CERTAIN ZONES, WE'RE HITTING, UM, ESSENCE OF TIME. I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE ORDINANCE. HOWEVER, IT DOES MAKE IT AN OFFICE TO PARK OVERNIGHT BETWEEN HOURS OF MIDNIGHT AND 6:00 AM. UM, THE VEHICLES LISTED AS LONG AS THEIR MANUFACTURER'S RATED CAPACITY, IS IT ACCESS AND EVERY QUARTER TIME AND THE ISSUE WE HAVE THE LANGUAGE HIGHLIGHTED AND UNDERLINED, AND IT BASICALLY TALKS ABOUT PROPERTY AREAS. ZONE IS EITHER SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX OR MULTI-FAMILY ZONING UNDER OUR ZONING ORDINANCES. AND THIS IS WHERE OUR PROBLEM COMES IN WITH OUR LANGUAGE. WE'LL GET TO THAT IN JUST A SECOND. AND IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE SECTIONS NOT PREVENT THE PARKING SETTING OF VEHICLES DESCRIBED IN SECTION ZONED AREAS, THE PURPOSE OF SPATIALLY LOADING AND UNLOADING BASKET NUMBER OF STYLES. WE ALSO HAVE A STORAGE ORDINANCE THAT'S LISTED IN SECTION 78 DASH 2 86, AND THIS IS REALLY INTENDED FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOME AREAS, BUT IT DOES CALL OUT THE PARKING OF TRAILERS, MOBILE HOMES, RECREATIONAL VEHICLES, CAMPERS DISMANTLING, AND OPERA BAGELS. AND AGAIN, IT REALLY, THIS IS MORE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOME AREAS, BUT IT DOES HIGHLIGHT THE NEED TO ADDRESS THE TRAILER ISSUE AS WELL, IS THAT IT'S NOT CLEARLY DEFINED AS MAYBE AS, AS WE WANT IT TO BE. AND IT ISN'T DEFENSE PROSECUTION ON THIS CURRENT ORDINANCE. IF IT'S BASICALLY CONCEAL REVIEW A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND, AND NOW I HAVE A KINSMEN OR VELVET SERVICE DIRECTOR HERE TO HELP ME OUT. SO EXCEPT IT'S NOT MY EXPERTISE, BUT ADDISON ADDISON, MOST OF OUR HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS ARE ZONED IS EITHER PLAN DEVELOPMENTS, URBAN CENTERS, OR MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL. UM, THE CONFLICTING LANGUAGE WITH OUR COORDINATOR IN ORDINANCE SECTION 78, 1 75 CALLS OUT GENERAL RESIDENTIAL LAND USES AND NOT SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICTS. SO RIGHT NOW THE LANGUAGE DOES NOT SUPPORT OUR ENFORCEMENT NEEDS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. NOW WE'LL NEED TO ADD OUR PLAN OF ELEMENT URBAN CENTERS AND OR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT LANGUAGE TO THE ORDINANCE WITH COUNCIL DESIRES AND LEAVE IT AS IS. SO AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO LET COUNCIL, UH, WALK THIS PROCESS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEFINE OUR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES FOR RESIDENTS, PARKING A LITTLE BIT OF A EDUCATION PROCESS FOR THOSE THAT MAY NOT BE AWARE. THERE'S TWO SLIDES GO THROUGH AND QUICKLY, AND WE'LL JUST EXPLAIN SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IN BARBERTON. THE FEDERAL AND STATE LAW USES AS THEIR DEFINITIONS OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. AND SO FIRST THE PAYLOAD AND THE CARTOON ON THE, ON THE SCREEN SHOWS IT'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT THE VEHICLE IS DESIGNED TO HOLD. FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE A 2017, I HAVE TWO 50 IS A 4 0 4 WHEEL DRIVE TRUCK. SOMEBODY MAY HAVE SEEN IT SOME MAY NOT. UM, BUT, UH, MY PAYLOAD IS 3,153 POUNDS, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT TRUCK IS RATED TO CARRY. THERE'S ALSO A CURVED WEIGHT AND THAT'S THE ACTUAL MEASUREMENT OF THE BAGELS, TOTAL WEIGHT ABSENCE OF A PASTOR FOR CARGO. UH, THESE TWO DEFINITIONS ARE THE ONES WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS DISCUSSION, WHICH IS THE GVWR, WHICH IS GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT RATING, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, AND THAT'S FOUND IN EVERY STICKER OR THE VIN PLATES THAT WERE IN EVERY VEHICLE MADE, UH, THAT IS YOUR GROSS WEIGHT OF THE MAXIMUM LOAD OF PAPER VEHICLE. SO PASSENGERS AND CARGO, INCLUDING THE CURB WEIGHT OF THE VEHICLE, MY TRUCK IS 10,000 POUNDS WITH YOU TAKE THE WEIGHT OF THE VEHICLE, THE WEIGHT OF THE CARGO, WHICH IS 3,103 MILES. AND THEN THE SIX PASTORED IS RATED TO CARE TO HAVE A BENCH SEAT, THE FRONT SIDE, [00:50:01] CARRYING THREE IN THE FRONT OF THE, AND THEN DO YOU HAVE A COMBINED WEIGHT RATING OR GROSS COMBINED WEIGHT RATING THAT TAKES THE VEHICLE, THE PASTURES, THE PAYLOAD AND THE TRUCK. NOW YOU'RE ADDING A TRAILER WEIGHT. AND SO THAT'S COMBINING THE TRAILER, THE CARGO, THE OCCUPANTS, AND THE TRUCK, RIGHT? SO EVERYTHING BECAME THE WASTE CAN GET UP THERE. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT OUR DEFINITIONS. WE HAVE A FEDERAL, THE FED, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DEFINES, UH, OUR COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLES THROUGH THEIR FAIR, FAIR, EXCUSE ME, FEDERAL MOTOR CARRIER SAFETY REGULATIONS. AND THEY HAVE TWO BASIC DEFINITIONS. THE FIRST ONE DESCRIBES A COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLES AS ANY VEHICLE USED IN INTERSTATE COMMERCE TO TRANSPORT PASSENGERS OR PROPERTY WITH A GROSS WEIGHT RATING OR A COMBINATION WEIGHT RATING EITHER INDIVIDUALLY OR COMBINED OF 10,001 POUNDS OF MORE. SO GOING BACK TO MY TRUCK, MY TRUCK, AGAIN, 10,000 POUNDS, I'M KIND OF RIGHT THERE. I'M ONE POUND AWAY FROM BEING CONSIDERED A COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT. THIS, THIS DEFINITION APPLIES TO A LOT OF THE SMALL PACKAGES DELIVERY TRUCKS HAVE TO, UH, TRUCKS, BOX TRUCKS, THAT KIND OF THING. THE COMMERCIAL DRIVER'S LICENSE ARE TYPICALLY NOT REQUIRED FOR THOSE, THOSE PEOPLE'S SECOND DEFINITION, UH, IN THE FEDERAL LAW TALKS ABOUT BIGGER, BIGGER TRUCKS. AND THESE VEHICLES ARE USED FOR COMMERCE TO TRANSPORT PASSENGERS THAT ARE PROPERTY, WHERE THEY GROW SNOOP WEIGHT RATING OF 26,001 POUNDS OR MORE THE GROSS COMBINATION, WEIGHT RATING, AND THE SAME. AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE A TOWED UNIT WITH A GROSS WEIGHT RATING OF MORE THAN 10,001 FAMILIES. IT IS IT'S THE TWO PAGERS THAT APPLY. THESE ARE TYPICALLY YOUR, YOUR SEMI-TRACTOR IS THE TRAILERS. UH, AND THEN THE DOUBLE AXLE, UH, BOX TRUCKS AND THE BIG, BIG MOVIE BANDS. AGAIN, IT'S ONLY 6,000 POUNDS, THE ONE 26,001 POUNDS OR MORE IS THE DIFFERENCE HERE INSTEAD OF TEXAS DOES A SIMILAR, UH, THEY DO. THERE'S A SIMILAR WAY. THEY GO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND THEY BREAK THOSE OUT INTO INTERSTATE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, GOING FROM STATE TO STATE INTRASTATE, WHICH IS WE'VE BEEN TEXAS. UH, BUT FOR THE INTERSTATE, ANY SELF-PROPELLED OR TOWED MOTOR VEHICLE USED ON A HIGHWAY IN TEXAS TO TRANSPORT PASSENGERS OR PROPERTY, AND IT HAS SOME SPECIFIC DEFINITIONS, THEY TALK ABOUT GROSS VEHICLE, WEIGHT RATING, OR THE COMBINED WEIGHT RATING, OR THE ACTUAL WEIGHTS OF BOTH AT 10,000, 1000 MORE, WHICHEVER IS GREATER. THEY ALSO TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTING OF EIGHT PASSENGERS, INCLUDING THE DRIVER FOR COMPENSATION, AS THEY HAVE TO BE PAID TO DO IT, THEN A LOT OF JURORS FROM BUS DRIVERS AND THAT KIND OF THING. UM, OR IF IT'S DESIGNED FOR MORE THAN 15 PASTORS, AND IT'S NOT USED TO TRANSPORT PASSENGERS TO COMPENSATION. SO IF YOU HAVE A 15 PASSENGER BUS OR A FORD VAN OR CHEVROLET VAN, TYPICALLY CHURCH DAYCARE'S USE WAS APPLIED TO YOU GET TO A 17 PASTOR ON THE 16 BEST CAPACITY THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION. THEY ALSO TAUGHT HAS MATERIALLY. QUANTITY IS ALSO ART THAT, UH, WITHIN TEXAS IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THEY TALK ABOUT ANY SELF-PROPELLED OR TOWED VEHICLE OTHER THAN A FARM VEHICLE WITH THE GROCERY WAY, A REGISTERED WAY, LESS THAN 48,000 POUNDS THAT SHE WAS ON THE PUBLIC HIGHWAY. SO TRANSPORT PASSENGERS CARGO, IF AGAIN, THE VEHICLE OR COMBINATION OF VEHICLES HAS AN ACTUAL WEIGHT REGISTERED WEIGHT, THE GROSS WEIGHT RATING, AND MORE THAN 6,000 POUNDS, UM, AGAIN, MORE THAN 50 MASTERS. AND IT'S ALSO A HAZARDOUS MATERIALS IN QUANTITY. SO THERE'S THAT EMISSIONS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT, UH, THICK. I SAID KIND OF WAY TO SAY IT. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT CHIEF SPENCER'S EXPLAINED SO FAR, IF YOU DO, WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO EXPLAIN THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY IF WE, IF WE CAN, AND THIS GIRL IS SICK AGAIN, I'M IN MY TRUCK IS EXAMPLE, MY TRUCK IS READY TO CARRY OUT A TOW OF 15,000 POUNDS. SO YOU TAKE THE 10,000 POUND GROSS VEHICLE, WEIGHT RATING AND ADD 15,000 FOR A COMBINED THAT'S WAY OVER THERE. SO NOT, NOT THAT I HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S 15,000 POUNDS, BUT IF I HAVE A, I HAVE A SMALL FARM BY A CARGO TRAILER THAT IS READY TO CARRY 2000 POUNDS, THAT PUTS ME OVER THE 10,000 POUND LIMIT. SO HAVING A THREE QUARTER TON TRUCK LIKE MINE WITH A SMALL GARDEN TRAILER CAN BOOK ME OVER THE 10,001 POUNDS COMBINED WAVERING. SO THERE IS SOME, THERE IS SOME RELEVANCE THERE QUESTIONS. OKAY. SO I WANTED TO SHARE SOME EXAMPLES THAT ARE MULTI-FAMILY COMMUNITY, SUPER DARK MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS. THE EXAMPLES I'VE LISTED HERE CAME, BROUGHT UP ARE FIXED SUBMISSIONS. SO IT IS MOST THINGS ARE IN VITRUVIAN. THESE ARE NOT VIOLATIONS OR FOR AN ORDINANCE, RIGHT? SO IT SAYS IN EXCESS OF THREE QUARTER TON, UH, FOR, FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE, THE DODGE, THE CENTER TOP PICTURE WITH THE TRAILER BEHIND [00:55:01] IT, THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO USE IT, THAT REPORTS ON THIS DISCUSSION, IT WOULD NOT BE MODULATION. THE TRAILERS THEMSELVES MAY NOT BE IN VIOLATION BECAUSE THE TRAILERS, AREN'T THREE WORDS ON, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE TO DRUG RACE THAT HALF TON VAN THAT ONE TIME TO PASS. THESE ARE EXAMPLES ARE VIOLATIONS IN THE COURT AND ORIGINS. AGAIN, BIG TRUCKS. WE HAVE A ONE-TIME FLAT BED. WE HAVE A SEMI TRUCK WITH A TRAILER. WE HAVE A LARGE, UH, MOVING TRAILER AND THEN A LARGE BUS IT'S IN EXCESS OF 15 MINISTERS. SO BOTH FROM A WEIGHT RATING FOR THAT PASSENGER RATING, IT WOULD BE A, IS THERE A COMMERCIAL VIOLATION? AND SO IT'S NOT, WE HAVE SOME KEY POLICY ISSUES. WE WOULD LIKE FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH OUR PROPOSED ENFORCEMENT ORIENTED UPDATES, WHICH WOULD JUST FIX THE LANGUAGE THAT WOULD GIVE US THE ZONING CLARITY THAT WE NEED TO ENFORCE THE CURRENT ORDERS AS IT'S WRITTEN FROM A WEIGHT RATING PERSPECTIVE AND THE TIMES, OR RESTRICTED, OR HAS COUNSEL SATISFIED WITH HER DEFINITION AND THE EXISTING ORDINANCE FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND PERTAINS TO RESIDENT PARKING. AGAIN, THIS IS A MORE COMPLEX DISCUSSION CAUSE WE CAN GO MORE RESTRICTIVE OR LESS RESTRICTIVE ON THE BASE ON THE WAY RATINGS, WHATEVER COUNCIL DESIRES. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR ANY OTHER CONCERNS THAT WE DIDN'T ADDRESS WITH MY NEXT STEPS AFTER WE GET COUNCIL DIRECTION WILL BE TO MEN, OUR ORDINANCE, THE CITY ATTORNEY. AND THEN WE WOULD BRING THIS BACK TO COUNCIL CONSIDERATION JANUARY 11TH, 2022. PART OF THAT WOULD BE COMMUNICATE WITH OUR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PARTNERS GOING TO CHANGE THE CITY. IF WE HAVE ANY TO THE CURRENT ORDINANCE BUSINESSES, THEY UNDERSTAND THE RULES REGULATIONS BEFORE WE WRITE TICKETS AND TOW VEHICLES. I MEAN, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL ENFORCE WARNING CITATION FOR TOWING WHEN APPROPRIATE ONCE THE ORDER HAS CHANGED ANSWERING QUESTIONS, SHE FELT LIKE THE, HEAR YOUR SUGGESTIONS FOR THE, THE QUESTION NUMBER TWO. BUT, AND IF YOU COULD, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING THROUGH THAT, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO GO BACK TO, I THINK IT'S PAGE SEVEN. OKAY. A SMALLER VISUAL OF THE TRUCKS THAT MAYBE WERE, OR WHATEVER SLIDE DO YOU THINK THAT HELPS ILLUSTRATE YOUR THOUGHTS? SO AGAIN, I, MY, MY IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF PERSONAL OPINION. AGAIN, I DROPPED THREE QUARTERS ON TRUCK. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD DRIVE ONE TIME TRUCKS AND THEY USED TO STAY ON THE DRIVERS IS TEXAS, WHICH IS THE CULTURE. RIGHT. UM, AND THEY'RE MORE PREVALENT. I DID TRY, I DID AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST WITH, UH, TEXAS DMV TO TRY TO GET SOME DATA AND SEE, OKAY, ARE THE REGISTRATIONS, THE ASSUMPTION IS THE REGISTRATIONS HAVE INCREASED JUST KIND OF ANECDOTALLY LOOKING AROUND. AND WE HAD A TRUCK GUY KIND OF SEE HER BILES TRUCKS. ARE THERE MORE FREQUENTLY REGISTERED NEWS, THREE QUARTER, 100 VEHICLES? UH, THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT JUST BAND-AIDING NAMING OVER ONE TIME. SO THERE'S SOME BIG COMPLAINTS. SO IT'S REALLY UP TO COUNCIL. HOW DO YOU WANT TO FIND THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE AND SEE WHERE IT GOES? BUT I THINK FOR US BEING ABLE TO ENFORCE IT, WE'VE GOT A LOT ALSO, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SMALL VEHICLES THAT WE LISTED THAT WARRANT VIOLATIONS THAT ARE, ARE THEY A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE JUST BECAUSE OF A USEFUL WORK? IS IT, DOES IT MATTER IF IT'S THE PERSON'S PERSONAL VEHICLE, THEY OWN THEIR OWN BUSINESS. IT'S A MATTER OF THEIR WORK FOR A PLUMBING COMPANY. THEIR BOSS DOESN'T HAVE TO BRING THEIR BAND HOME EVERY DAY. SO LOTS OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS WE COULD GO. I FOCUSED ON THE WEIGHT RATINGS AND THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE DEFINITIONS, STATE, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AS A BENCHMARK, HOPEFULLY THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. IT DOES TO SOME EXTENT, BUT I'D LOVE TO, LET'S JUST USE THIS RIGHT HERE. SO, SO WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING IS YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE GO WITH A GV W R DEFINITION OR THE OTHER ONE? UM, UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE, AFTER THAT WAITLIST, MAYBE INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THE GVWR THE GCWR IT'S QUESTION OF, IS IT A FULL TON OR A THREE-QUARTER TON OR A HALFTIME, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD SIMPLIFY, I'D LOVE TO HEAR SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING. WE CONSIDER MAYBE VISION VISUALLY, UH, ON, ON ONE OF THE SIDE SEAT, WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF EXAMPLES, BUT I'M NOT, I'M NOT CERTAIN WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING, YOU KNOW, WHAT EXAMPLES YOU WOULD SUGGEST WE KEEP OR CHANGE OR THAT THIRD PERMITTED ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT. YES, SIR. AND THEN WE ALWAYS WANT TO HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL OR OUR OFFICERS CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION. [01:00:02] NO TRAILERS THAT ARE DISCONNECTED FROM, FROM VEHICLES, I THINK WOULD, SHOULD BE AN ISSUE IN OUR MULTI-FAMILY BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, JESSICA HERE FROM, FROM UDR PARKING IS A RANDOM SPACE THROUGH GREEN, BUT WE'VE HAD THE ISSUE, BUT AS CIRCLE WHERE MOSES AND JET-SKIS AND MOTORCYCLES, EVERYTHING ELSE UP ON THE PARKING. BUT DOES IT MATTER IF IT'S CONNECTED TO THE VEHICLE? THERE'S SOME CITIES THAT SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE A FREE-STANDING TRAILER WITHOUT FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, EVEN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, UNLESS IT'S, BUT IT WAS CONNECTED TO YOUR VEHICLE IS FINE. RIGHT? BECAUSE OTHER SORT OF WAY WRITING, I KNOW FRISCO HAS, THEY'VE HAD BIGGER ISSUES WITH THE LARGE TRUCKS, LIKE IN THIS PICTURE, ON THE LEFT, STILL MY TRUCK AND TRAILERS. THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG ISSUE AROUND, UH, TEXAS FULLY, NATIONALLY. THEY WENT OUT AND ADDRESSED THAT PARTICULARLY, BUT THEY DIDN'T DO MUCH ELSE WITH WHAT THE SMALLER PRICE, A SMALLER TRAILERS AND LESS THAN LESS THAN ONE TIME LESS, BECAUSE AGAIN, TO SOMEONE SO PREVALENT, NOT ONLY FOR PERSONAL USE, BUT ALSO FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. OKAY. AND SO CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE AS WELL? UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THIS, THIS PICTURE OF THIS VISUAL ON THE FAR RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IS THAT YOU, DO YOU SEE THAT AS A ISSUE OR SO WHAT'S A HALFTIME VEHICLE, RIGHT? SO IF WE USE AGAIN OR USE OUR CURRENT OR THIS LANGUAGE, IT WILL NOT BE A VIOLATION. OKAY. NOW AGAIN, IT COULD BE A SMALL PACKAGE, THE WHOLE FORD TRANSIT CONNECT. IT COULD BE A FORD RANGER. IT COULD BE A, THE SMALLEST BAXTER CARDS DOWN, BUT AS HAS STICKERS ON THE SIDE OF IT FOR A PLUMBING COMPANY, OR IS THAT A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE? THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, OR ARE WE GOING TO GO STRICTLY ON WEIGHT RATINGS? I WILL TELL YOU THAT FROM AN ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT, OUR OFFICERS HAVE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION VERY EASILY CLEARLY. AND SO WE ALWAYS USE THE WEIGHT RATINGS. THAT'S WHY THE STATE USED THOSE WEIGHT RATINGS IS IT GIVES US BENCHMARKS THAT WE CAN PICK IT HORSEMAN ACTUALLY. OKAY. AND SO THIS BOTTOM MIDDLE WITH THAT UNDER B UNDER THE WEIGHT RATING OF THIS TRUCK IN RECENT YEARS, PICK UP IS SO POPULAR. AND THEN ESPECIALLY TO THE THREE QUARTER TONS, SOME HANDYMAN, YOU ALWAYS DRAG THOSE KINDS OF CAR FOR THE CONVENIENCE, CARRY ALL THE CARGOES AND ALL THE STUFF. SO THE FUN OF THEIR OWN HOME, ALL INTO THE DRIVEWAY. SO IS THAT A VIOLATION TOO? SO THAT, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T, IF THEY OWN THE HOUSE, THEY PART YOUR FUNDS THAT GARAGE. AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SHOULD TOTALLY A CAR OR IT'S A VIOLATION OR SOMETHING. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? LET ME, FOR EXAMPLE, SEE THAT MIDDLE, THE FLATBED IN THE MIDDLE, UPPER MIDDLE PICTURE. RIGHT. CHIEF CLARIFY FOR ME, IF THAT WERE PARKED IN MY DRIVEWAY, MY HOUSE, WOULD THAT BE A VIOLATION OF OUR WORK THAT WOULD CURRENTLY BE A VIOLATION OF OUR WORD INVESTIGATOR? SO BACK TO THE SLIDE, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER MORE, YEAH. LIKE THOSE VAN IS VERY POPULAR AND THEN THAT IS IN THE MIDDLE, THE PAPER, THE LOWER PICTURE, YEAH. IS A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE IT IN. AND THOSE RIGHT NOW ARE VIOLATIONS OF OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE. SO IF THE COUNCIL SAID, WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE WEIGHT RATIO THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, THEN THESE WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE RESIDENTIAL. I THINK THOSE TWO SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN THERE, BUT WITH A TRAILER LIKE THAT WITH A TRAILER LIKE THAT POSSIBLE, WHEN THERE SHOULDN'T BE ALONE, YOU KNOW, SO CAN WE BUY, I WANT TO BUY, I WANT TO KIND OF DUMB THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT. LET'S GO A LITTLE LOWER. SO CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THE KUDOS TO BE OUT OF SOME FIXING UP AND THE TOWN'S USE OF ACTUALLY LISTENING TO AND RESPONDING TO THE FEEDBACK BY HAVING THIS CONVERSATION? THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR. UM, BUT IS THE, IS THE OIL DOWN A PROBLEM IS THAT THE, THE, THE MAIN PROBLEMS ARE COMING FROM LARGER VEHICLES THAT ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE PARKED AND SAY MULTIFAMILY AREAS LIKE THE TRUE HAND AND ADDISON CIRCLE PARK, UH, THE ONES THAT ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, VIOLATIONS AND THEY'RE HAVING PEOPLE SUBMIT THESE PHOTOS AND SAYING, THERE'S THIS BIG, HUGE THING PARKED HERE, GET IT OUT OF HERE BECAUSE I CAN'T DO WHATEVER. AND SO THIS, THE PROBLEM IS, UM, THERE TOO MANY VEHICLES PARKED MORE THAN THAT. IT'S BECAUSE THE FREE, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THOSE ARE ALSO COMPLAINTS THROUGH THE FACE. SO PEOPLE THINK THAT THOSE ARE ALSO COMMERCIAL VEHICLES THAT SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO PARK [01:05:01] THERE AS WELL. SO IT'S NOT ONLY THE BIG ONES. THOSE ARE THE OBVIOUS ONES. IT'S, HEY, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE AS WELL. AND THIS SHOULD BE ALLOWED ALSO, AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO RESTRICTIONS ON THE LINK, ANOTHER LANGUAGE ABOUT THE LINK THAT OCCURRED. SHOULD THERE BE, I THINK THE WAY WRITING IS SUFFICIENT, THAT'S THE BEST PART THAT YOU USE BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A BIG TRUCK. LIKE A TRACTOR TRAILER IS GOING TO BE VERY HEADY. WELL, OVER THE 26,001,000, 10,001 PLASTIC PATIENT, I WILL TELL YOU, WE DO HAVE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE ONE-TIME TRUCKS LIKE MINE THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE. I KNOW THERE'S ONE IN OAKVILLE WORK. THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER ONES SINCE WE TRY TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT. BUT THAT'S, AND MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF WE WERE TO DO, LET'S SAY, NUMBER ONE, WE WERE TO UPDATE THE LANGUAGE TO SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT NEEDS THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS THEN AS IT STANDS NOW, WOULD YOU PROACTIVELY GO AND FORCE THE ORDINANCE? OR ARE YOU JUST RESPONDING TO CALLS? SO LET'S SAY IF SOMEBODY OWNS THE TRUCK AND IT'S PARKED IN THEIR DRIVEWAY AND NOBODY HAS A PROBLEM WITH IT, NOBODY'S CALLING IT IN. I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD THEN JUST LEAVE? WE'RE GOING TO DO BOTH NOW. WE WOULD DO BOTH. SO OFFICERS IN THEIR DISCRETIONARY TIME, WE'LL GO OUT AND WE'LL BUILD LOOK FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, ESPECIALLY THE NEIGHBORHOODS. HOWEVER, WE ALSO RESPOND TO CALLS FOR SERVICE, WHETHER IT'S BEEN PICKS APP ORDERS OR IT'S CALLED. SO IT WOULD BE THE WORD IS THAT THAT'S, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT COMMENT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST DO IT BASED ON COMPLAINT BASIS. IT'S GOING TO TRY TO BE FAIR AND EQUITABLE AND HOW WE ENFORCE ORDINANCES AND TRY TO DO MORNINGS FIRST, TRY TO GET VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. BUT AS A RESIDENT, IF I WAS A RESIDENT AND I HAD MY TRUCK WAS IN VIOLATION, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU EXPECT ME TO SELL MY DRUG, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, I, THAT'S PRETTY DRASTIC. I MEAN, THIS IS THIS, THIS TO ME SEEMS, IT SEEMS, IT SEEMS SILLY TO HAVE ORDINANCES, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE NOT, UH, WE DON'T MAKE IT EASY FOR YOU TO ENFORCE, SO THAT'S A PROBLEM, BUT I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE SOLUTION SHOULD BE. SO TALK TO ME ABOUT, UH, WHERE ARE THE ISSUE FULL TRANSPARENCIES AS PART OF MY WALKER AND THIS ORDER, UH, GO TO THE CODE, THE PICTURE RIGHT THERE. NOPE, NOPE. SORRY. THAT'S BEEN PARKED NINE MONTHS THERE. THEY MOVED IT FROM ONES THAT SPOT IT'S SLIGHTLY MORE, I THOUGHT. YEAH, THAT'S PROBLEM. AND MY OBSERVATION IS THIS IS A COMMERCIAL STORAGE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE STORAGE FACILITY. THAT'S MY OBSERVATION. AND WE PUT IN $50 BILLION IN INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT AREA. AND IT'S A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE STORAGE FACILITY. SO WE GOTTA FIX THIS. UM, WELL, CAN YOU CLARIFY WHICH, WHICH SPECIFIC PHOTOGRAPH YOU WERE AND SO IT'S A QUESTION OF, AND THIS BLACK TRAILER IS PARKED FOR EXTENDED PERIODS DOWN TO, IN A CITY ON PARKING LOT NEXT TO THE TRUTH YET IT'S SUPPOSED TO, AND SOME JET SKIS AND ALL SORTS OF STEPS APART IN THAT PARKING LOT THERE. SO, I MEAN, WE JUST NEED TO CLEAN UP THE PARK IN HERE AND IF THE ANSWER IS TO DO ABOUT WEIGHT FINE. UM, BUT WE GOT TO STOP THE PARKING IN THE PARKING LOT TO CLEAR THAT OUT. AND IF THAT'S PARKING IS, IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S PART FOR VITRUVIAN PARK, IT'S CITY OWNED PARKING BY MIXED JUST THE WESTERN, UH, VITRUVIAN. UM, I MEAN JUST WEST IT, YES, THIS WEST OF, UH, BETWEEN THE TOWN HOMES AND THE TRULY, AND THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY PARKING THERE FROM 11:00 PM TO 5:00 AM, CAUSE PARKS NOT OPEN. I BE THINKING, SO THAT'S PART OF IT. THAT'S GOTTA BE PART OF THE SOLUTION TO ALL. [01:10:01] WE GOT TO VERIFY THAT. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. WE GOT VERIFIED. WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE TOWN OR THAT'S OKAY. SO HE'S REFERRING TO PARKING. YOU NEED A MICROPHONE OR B, IS THERE ONE OF THEM? YEAH. SO I'M JESSICA, I'M TRYING OUT. I AM THE METAL COORDINATOR AND I'M NOT INSIDE OF VR VITRUVIAN PARK. SO THE PARKING LOT THAT PAUL IS REFERRING TO IS JUST SOUTH OF SAVOY. UM, I THINK THERE WAS FOR A LONG TIME, THE MISCONCEPTION THAT THAT WAS OWNED BY UDR. UM, I EXPLAINED TO OUR OPERATIONS TEAM THAT IT WASN'T, AND IT WAS COMMUNICATED TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS AT THE TIME. AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE SPOKEN TO JANET ABOUT IT AND PERIODICALLY I'LL SEND OUT EMAILS TO THE RESIDENTS TO REMIND THEM THAT IT IS NOT OVER BY UDR. UM, IT IS IN A PARKING LOT, SOMEWHERE THE TOWN AND TO STREAMLINE THINGS ACROSS THE BOARD, EVEN OUR PARKING LOTS THAT ARE OWNED BY UDR AND ARLAND. SO WE OPERATE BY THE SAME TIMEFRAME THAT THE TALENT DOES, 5:00 AM TO 11:00 PM. UM, AND THEN OVER TIME, AS I'VE BEEN ABLE TO KIND OF PUSH PEOPLE OUT OF OUR PARKING LOTS, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY JUST MIGRATED OVER TO THIS PARKING LOT, BUT YES, IT IS. IT IS OVER BY THE TOWN. THIS IS THIS PARK ROAD ROAD WHERE THAT WAS JUST BEING DESCRIBED. YES, THERE'S A TRAILER. UM, I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. UM, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. UM, OTHER THAN THAT, OTHER THAN THAT, THE DESIGNATION OF PD AND ALL THAT STUFF YOU ADDED INTO THE THING IS WE'RE BACK TO THAT PICTURE. ISN'T THAT BLACK. HERE'S WHAT IT DOES. IT ALL. IT DIDN'T SAY YOU CAN'T PARK ANY BOATS TRAILERS, JUST SO THE STREETS ARE ALREADY ORDINANCE. IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, RESIDENTIALLY ZONED. NOW I MAY GET KEN TO HELP ME OUT WITH THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT. UH, THIS WAS INTENDED. WE, WE FEEL LIKE FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME AREA, SO WE WOULD NEED TO CLEAN THIS LANGUAGE OVER AS WELL. YEAH. BUT I MEAN, ONCE THAT'S CLEANED UP, THEN I GUESS THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON THAT THING RIGHT NOW HAS, IS IT IN VIOLATION THAT LIKE A TRAILER SETTING THERE, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE WHAT YOU CLEANED UP THE LANGUAGE. IT SAID ABOUT JUST RESIDENTIAL, BUT OKAY. AT LEAST THESE ORDINANCES WERE AN EXIT 19 TWO. SO IF WE DID GO BY THE WAY AND LOOKING AT THE EVERY WEEK, WE MADE A DETERMINATION THAT BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WEIGHT IN EXCESS OF XYZ, UM, AND LOOKING AT THE PICTURES LIKE THE BLACK TRESS AND THE BLACK TRAILER IS NOT IN VIOLATION CURRENTLY. IT DEPENDS ON ITS WEIGHT RATING. I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T CHECK IT, BUT TO BE OVER THREE TOURS ON A PLATELET. OKAY. I AGREE WITH TOM THAT, THAT BLACK TRAILER, IT SHOULDN'T BE A FOUNDATION, RIGHT. ONCE WE CLEAN UP. THAT'S FINE. I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT AGAIN, BECAUSE THAT WOULD, THAT, THAT IS A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE THAT YOU USE IN COMMERCE THAT YOU USED BY ARTISTS AND CONTRACTOR OR THE LIKE, UM, AND, AND IT IS IF THEY'RE GETTING FREE PARKING, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN THAT COMMERCIAL VEHICLE PARKING AREA, MY QUESTION IS, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IS IT, SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MOVE, SO THEN YOU'LL FOR A TRAILER, LIKE A MINERAL TOP OF MINE. SO THEY COULDN'T FINISH MOVING, UH, ON DAY ONE. SO THEY LEFT THAT ON THE POP SIDE OF THE STREET AND THEN STILL BE ABLE TO MOVE THE NEXT DAY. SO IF YOU WANT TO ISSUE A CITATION, THEN IT'S KIND OF OFF. SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT'S THE BEST SOLUTION, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT FOR THOSE STATIONARY THERE FOR A LONG TIME, DEFINITELY NEED TO BE RELOCATED. YOU COULD WORK THE TIRES, YOU KNOW, YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GET INTO THAT. WE'VE SEEN IT BE CLEAR ON WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE AND WHAT ISN'T RIGHT. SO, BECAUSE IF, IF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THE VAN ON THE RIGHT IS, [01:15:01] IT MAY BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES, BUT IT DOESN'T VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE, THEN THAT'S FINE. AND EVERYBODY'S GOTTA BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. IF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THE TRAILER ON THE LEFT IS A VIOLATION, THEN THAT'S FINE. THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING, YOU KNOW, ASKING POLICE OFFICERS OR TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO TO, TO ACTUALLY ENFORCE IT. UH, IT'S JUST BEING CLEAR ON WHAT IS A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE AND WHAT IS NOT. AND ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH THE CURRENT STANDARD, WHICH IS THREE-QUARTER TIME VEHICLE, UM, UH, WHETHER IT'S A MOTOR VEHICLE OR A TRAILER, OR BECAUSE TRUCKS HAVE GOTTEN BIGGER AND MORE PEOPLE USE ONE-TIME TRUCKS, JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT DO WAS THE COUNCIL WANT TO MAKE ACCOMMODATION AN ADJUSTMENT IN THAT, THAT LEVEL OF MEASUREMENT SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE WHO IT'S NOT INTENDED TO IMPACT THE RESIDENT WHO DOESN'T USE IT NECESSARILY FOR A COMMERCIAL PURPOSE, BUT BECAUSE OF ITS SIZE AND CAPACITY COULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THE, I, I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE IT CAN BE EXTENDED TO ONE TIME, BECAUSE THREE QUARTERS TIME IS NOT A REALLY BIG, BIG, YOU KNOW, NOWADAYS A LOT OF THE YOUNGER GUYS ALL HAVE, THEY ARE MORE MACHO TYPE PERSON, YOU KNOW, THEY LIKE TO HAVE A BIGGER, UH, PICKUP. SO, YOU KNOW, ONE 10 IS NOTHING. HONESTLY, YOU ONLY HAVE TO BE PRACTICAL, RIGHT? YOU DON'T WANT TO ENACT THE LAW. AND THEN, AND WE USED TO TREAT PEOPLE MUCH MORE THAN SHOULD. SO, BUT I REALLY DON'T LIKE THOSE TRAILERS STAY THERE WITH THAT SIZE. NO, BUT I CAN LIVE WITH THOSE, THAT VAN AND THAT PICKUP. BUT AS FAR AS THAT PICKUP WITH A TRAILER, I, THE ONE THING THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE, SO NO ATTACHED OR DETACHED, YEAH, NOT THIS DETACH, BUT THIS ATTACHED, BUT ATTACHED. YOU DON'T WANT TO PARK OVER NIGHT ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET, RIGHT BY THE SINGLE FAMILY OR DUPLEX, OR, BUT WE COULD USE A COMBINATION WHAT YOUR RATINGS TO ALLEVIATE THE TRAILER DISCONNECTED THAT GOT IN MY TRUCK, FOR EXAMPLE, ANY PRETTY MUCH ANY TRAILER I ATTACHED TO MY TRUCK, SOMEBODY OVER ON 10,001 NOW. SO IF THE COUNCIL DECIDED THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO DO, THEN WE WOULD ADDRESS THE TRAILER ISSUE. THAT'S ATTACHED TO A VEHICLE. YOU HAVE ANOTHER GROSS COMBINATION, WEIGHT RATING ON IT. ALL RIGHT. WE JUST GET IT TO THE YES, SIR. COULD WE, UM, GET SOME INPUT FROM KEN ON THIS AS TO HOW MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS AND IF THERE ARE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION CHALLENGES THAT MAY COME UP WITH WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING? I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE ARE ANY COME OVER HERE AND SAY, NO, THERE'S NO CHALLENGES WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS OR A MULTI-FAMILY. THERE'S ALWAYS CHALLENGES WITH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATES. I THINK THE KEY THING AND PAUL SPOKE TO THIS A BIT IN HIS PRESENTATION IS THAT WE'LL WORK WITH FOLKS LIKE JESSICA AND OUR HOA IS TO ENSURE THAT WHAT WE DO COME UP WITH, UH, WE CAN GET OUT AHEAD OF THOSE CHALLENGES AND, AND FIND A SOLUTION THAT WORKS WELL FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS AND MEANS THE TOWN'S NEEDS. SO I THINK WE CAN GET TO A GOOD PLACE ON THAT. I DON'T ANTICIPATE SPECIFIC CHALLENGE TO THAT BEYOND KIND OF WHERE YOU GET INTO THE, THE LARGE PICKUP TRUCK VERSUS SOMETHING THAT'S MORE COMMERCIAL IN NATURE. I THINK WE ALL KIND OF HAVE A GOOD FEEL FOR WHAT THAT IS. WE JUST NEED TO SPECIFY THAT. AND OVERALL, I THINK, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS AND PROPERTY MANAGERS HOLDING VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS CONSIDERATION. SO WE CAN, WE WILL CHEF COME UP WITH A SPECIFIC WEIGHT RATHER THAN ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC ANSWER, UH, COUNSEL AGAIN, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW IT'S THREE COURT DATES, ANYTHING OVER THREE COURT TIMES. SO ONE TIME AND LARGER ARE PROHIBITED UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. NOW, AGAIN, THESE ARE MODERN. THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT OWN ONE TON TRUCKS, AND WE HAD A WAITER SEVERAL DOWN. SO IF WE WERE TO GO ANYTHING OVER ONE ZONE IS PROHIBITED OR WE CAN GET INTO SOME COMBINATIONS, WEIGHT RATINGS FOR TRAILERS AND TRAILERS CAN ALSO BE LISTED UNDER THE SAME WEIGHT RATING. AND IT MAKES IT VERY EASY FOR OFFICER TO RUN THE PLATE AND GET THE GROSS VEHICLE. WEIGHT RATING IS OVER THE THRESHOLD. IT'S A SECOND SPOT. IT'S VERY EASY. IF IT'S ATTACHED, THAT'S ALSO VERY EASY. SO TO BE SPECIFIC, THE RESIDENTS THAT'S GONNA AFFECT LIVE IN MULTI-FAMILY SINGLE-FAMILY [01:20:01] AND MULTI-FAMILY, BUT I KNOW, I KNOW THREE RESIDENTS RIGHT NOW IN OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOME AREAS AT ONCE ON ALSO THE MALES, THE BAN ON THE RIGHTS AS PROGRESS, MAN, THIS IS A HAT'S ON VERSION FOUR. IT MAKES IT THREE, FOUR TON AT ONE TIME. VERSA THAT TRUCK AS WELL. SO NOW YOU'RE JUST, DON'T GO BY VISUAL, RIGHT? THAT'S ALL WE'RE GOING TO USE THE WEIGHTS AS OUR BENCHMARK BECAUSE IT MAY LOOK OKAY, BUT IT CAN BE REALLY HEAVY. IT MAY LOOK VERY LIGHT. IT'D BE NO, DEBBIE SAY I'M OKAY WITH THE ONE TIME I'M NOT OKAY WITH THOSE INDIVIDUAL TRAILERS. I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, I THINK THAT SHOULDN'T BE ANY WET LIMIT AT ALL. LIKE IF SOMEBODY RINGS JET SKIS AND A LITTLE BITTY TRAILER THING WEIGHS 500, THAT SHOULD BE A VIOLATION. RIGHT. AND WE'LL BE LIKE, THEY SHOULDN'T STORE ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THE STREETS OR, AND OUR CURRENT STORAGE ORDINANCE THAT WE LISTED. SO YEAH. SO WHITE DOESN'T COME INTO PLAY REALLY WISDOM WITH TRENT. SO THIS MADE IT, THIS IS TAKEN BETTER SHAME. SO WE CLEAN UP THE LANGUAGE. UM, THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE KEY. I NEED TO GO TOO FAR. SO THE CLEANUP LANGUAGE WILL BE ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT COVERS THE APPROPRIATE ZONING LAND USE, UH, DISTRICT. AND IT WILL CHANGE THE VEHICLE WEIGHT FROM THREE QUARTER TON TO BASED ON WHAT WE'VE GOT THIS CONVERSATION HERE TO ONE TIME, AND THEN THE STORAGE ORDINANCE WOULD CAPTURE THE CAUSE. RIGHT NOW IT'S ONLY FOCUSED ON THE SINGLE FAMILY AREAS OF TOWN. IT WOULD IT BE, IT WOULD INCLUDE, UH, THE FAMILY AS WELL, SO THAT IT HANDLES ANY TYPE OF STORAGE OF TRAILERS, ET CETERA. EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THAT. WELL, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. UM, I THINK I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT, BUT DID YOU SAY YOU ALREADY KNOW OF THREE RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT HAVE ONE TON TRUCKS THAT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THIS? OKAY. AND IT'S A VIOLATION OF OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE OR OCCURRENCE. THE NEW ORDER HAD SAID ONE TIME THAT IT JUST BE, THEY WOULD BE UNDER AND I'M NOT REALLY THAT FAMILIAR WITH THE WEIGHTS ON THESE BIG TRUCKS THAT ARE DRIVING AROUND. SO HELP ME. IT IS ONE TIME. IS THAT, IS THAT GOING TO BE, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT THAT IT'S TOO LIGHT FOR SOME OF THESE BIG TRUCKS. ARE WE GOING TO FIND OUT THAT THAT'S JUST OVER THE WEIGHT LIMIT FOR, FOR THESE? SO AGAIN, MY TRUCK'S THREE BOARDS ON ISN'T IT 2 50, 2 43, 15 HUNDREDS OR WORKERS. THEY'RE A ONE TON TRUCK. AND TO SEE THE NOW YOU'RE GETTING INTO LIKE WHAT OUR PARKS GUYS USED TO DUMP TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THOSE ARE OBVIOUS TOURS. THEY'RE USUALLY DOUBLE AXLE, EVERYTHING. EXCUSE ME, DUAL REAR WHEELS IS THIS. SO LAST ALREADY WE LITERARY THE CHANGES SO EVERYBODY COULD HAVE WITH US. WE'VE GOT ANOTHER QUESTION. IT'S AN EXAMPLE. SO A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, SOMEBODY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION SENT A PICTURE OF A TRUCK. THAT'S ALL THAT'S EQUAL IN THE TOWN OF MADISON, BUT THE WHOLE ASSOCIATION SAYS NO TRUCK. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE POLICE COME OUT? THE POLICE WILL COME OUT AND THEY'LL DETERMINE THAT'S FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IF IT'S NOT A VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE, SO COMMUNICATE THAT IT'S NOT A VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE. AND THEN IT'S JUST PURELY AN HOA ISSUE BETWEEN AN HOA AND, OR, AND I'M ASSUMING JUST ONE MORE, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE SAME THING GOES WITH HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE PARKING AND COMMERCIAL PARKING LOTS. RIGHT? I MEAN, THIS IS JUST, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL, BUT AS FAR AS, I MEAN, WE'RE LETTING LIKE A SHOPPING CENTER DICTATE WHERE TRACTOR TRAILERS ARE PARKED. RIGHT. THAT'S NOT OKAY. YEAH. THIS DOESN'T ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE OF, UH, OF TRUCKS IN COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIALLY ZONED AREA. SO THAT MIGHT BE, THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. THAT'S PROBABLY POLITY. RIGHT. SO CAN I ASK WHAT IS, CAN ASK STAFF, UM, TO TAKE A MULTI DEPARTMENTAL APPROACH TO THE PARKING LOT THAT JESSICA REFERRED TO TO MY MIND, IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO SIGN. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT. IF IT'S OURS, IF IT'S OUR PROPERTY, THERE'S WE HAVE MULTIPLE AVENUES TO PURSUE TAKING CARE OF THAT. RIGHT. IS THAT CLEAR? ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY IN CONSENSUS. OKAY. TAKE THE TWO MINUTES. BREAK THE COMBAT [01:25:22] NOW I LIKE TO INVITE ALL CITY MANAGER WEST PEARSON TO MAKE IT YOURS, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING, UH, AS IS TYPICAL, UM, COUNCIL IS THIS CANCEL THE SECOND, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING DECEMBER DUE TO THE HOLIDAYS THAT ARE GOING ON. UH, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THIS IS THE ONLY MEETING COUNCIL MEETING FOR THIS MONTH, DECEMBER, UH, HOLIDAYS FOR ALL OF THESE TOWN OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON THURSDAY. THE CENTER 23 WERE INVITED TO SEND THEIR 24 FOR THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY AND THEN TOWN OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON FRIDAY, DECEMBER 31ST IN OBSERVATION OF NEW YEAR'S DAY. IF YOU NEED TO CENSUS DURING THOSE TIMES WHEN THE OFFICES ARE CLOSED, THEY CAN, UH, CALL TOWN'S NON-EMERGENCY PUBLIC SAFETY NUMBER AT 9 7 2 4 5 0 7 1 5 6. AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT INFORMATION IS SHARED WITH HIPPY TOWN AS WELL. UH, JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE CONSTRUCTION IS THE EDISON ATHLETIC CLUB FOR THE RENOVATION THERE, BUT OPERATING ROOMS AND THE INDOOR ARE CURRENTLY CLOSED AND WILL REMAIN CLOSED DURING BOTH OF THE REVELATION. UH, ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE RENOVATION PROJECT CAN FIND INFORMATION ON THE PROJECT AND LEARN HOW TO SUBSCRIBE FOR TEXT UPDATES AND EMAIL UPDATES BY VISITING THE TOWN WEBSITE AT W W ADDISON, TEXAS.NET/CLUB RENOVATIONS. UH, AND FINALLY, UH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT, UH, THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT OUR SPECIAL EFFECTS DEPARTMENT RECENTLY ATTENDED THE TEXAS FESTIVAL AND EVENT ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE AND BROUGHT HOME INTO BONDS AWARDS. AND TONIGHT I'M JUST GOING TO MENTION THE GOAL AWARDS. UM, SO YOU RECEIVED THE BEST EVENT WEBSITE FOR OCTOBER FEST EVENT, THE BEST ORGANIZATION WEBSITE FOR VISIT ADDISON.COM. THE MISCELLANEOUS MULTIMEDIA FOR 2021 AS DIGITAL DIGITAL BILLBOARD COPY THAT WE MADE THAT WAS MADE, UM, BEST MISCELLANEOUS PRINTED MATERIAL OR THE 2021, ALL OF THOSE POSTCARD, AND THEN THE BEST PAIN OR A BUTTON FOR THE OCTOBER, 2021 COMMEMORATIVE HAT PIN. SO THIS WEEK'S NEWSLETTER CONGRATULATIONS TO THE SPECIAL EVENT TEAM FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK THIS PAST YEAR, ANNOUNCED, OH, THANK YOU. I WANT TO COME THE WAY JASMINE LEE AND HER DEPARTMENT WON SO MANY AWARDS, YOU KNOW, VERY INTELLIGENT. AND ALL I CAN SAY IS, YOU KNOW, THIS COUNTRY EVENTS BECOME EVEN MORE POPULAR. AND I HOPE, YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE THE GOOD TRAIT AND I WANT TO SEE HE SAID THIS AND IT'S GETTING BIGGER AND BETTER. SO, UH, EVERY YEAR, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH [ Consent Agenda All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.] CONCERN AGENDA ITEMS, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE, NO, I HAVE, DO I HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE ALL OF THOSE TOM MADE A MOTION AND MODERN WILSON SECONDED ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE ALL THOSE ITEMS, PLEASE SAY, AYE, AYE. OPPOSED ITEM NUMBER 10, [10. Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on a Resolution Appointing Four (4) Members to Serve on the Planning & Zoning Commission for Two-Year Terms Commencing January 1, 2022 and Providing an Effective Date. ] PRESENTED, DISCUSSING CONSIDERED ACTION OF RESOLUTION ON POINTING FOR MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TWO YEARS, I'M MISSING JANUARY 1ST, 2022, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DAY MARIN COUNCIL, IRMA PARKER CITY SECRETARY. UM, THIS YEAR BEFORE ALL OF THE, UM, BEFORE THE NOTICE WAS WITHIN THE NEWSLETTER AND POSTED ONLINE, UM, LETTERS WERE SENT TO ALL THE CURRENT MEMBERS, UH, EACH OF THESE THREE BOARDS, UH, ON THE SIGNATURE OF MAYOR, CIAO, ADVISING THEM THAT THEIR TERM WAS EXPIRING AND ASKING THEM TO PLEASE CONSIDER REAPPLYING FOR THIS, THEIR POSITION OR ANY OTHER POSITION WHEN THE TIME CAME. SO, UH, EACH ONE OF THEM, ALL OF THE MEMBERS WERE NOTIFIED WHEN THE [01:30:01] NOTICE WOULD BE IN THE NEWSLETTER AND WHEN IT WOULD BE ONLINE WHERE THEY COULD FILL OUT AN APPLICATION, WE HAVE FOUR MEMBERS OF THE PNC WHOSE TERMS ARE EXPIRING THIS YEAR. AND, UH, THE TABLE THAT I INCLUDE THERE, UH, EXPLAINED WHO, WHO WAS EXPIRING. IT WAS PLACED 4, 5, 6, AND SEVEN, AND ALL OF THEM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PLACE FIVE L RESUME, UH, REAPPLIED FOR A POSITION IN THE RESOLUTION THAT IS ALSO ATTACHED. UH, I HAVE IT LISTED SO YOU CAN APPOINT WHOMEVER YOU WANT IN THIS POSITION IF MR. CATALANI AND, UH, MR. SOURS ARE REAPPOINTED, THIS WILL BE THEIR LAST, THEIR FINAL, LAST TERM. YOU CAN ONLY BE APPOINTED TO THIS BOARD THREE TIMES. UM, AND YOU WILL ALSO SEE A LISTING OF THE NORTH WHO THE CURRENT MEMBERS ARE, UH, ONE ATTACHMENT. AND THEN THE LAST ATTACHMENT IS A LISTING OF ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO LISTED THE P AND Z AS A PLACE. ONE OF WHAT THEY WERE DELIGHTED TO, UH, APPLY FOR THE APPLICATION LISTED, UH, ASKED EACH CANDIDATE IF THEY WANTED TO BE A PNC, UH, BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT, OR THE, UH, COMMUNITY PARTNERS BUREAU. AND THEY HAD TO GO ONE, TWO AND THREE. SO, UH, THE LIST YOU HAVE SHOWS, UH, EVERYONE THAT APPLIED FOR PNC IS THEIR NUMBER ONE CHOICE. UH, AND NUMBER TWO IS THEIR NUMBER TWO CHOICE. AND THEN ONLY ONE PERSON APPLY AS A THIRD CHOICE. I'VE ALSO PROVIDED YOU A LISTING OF ALL OF THE CANDIDATES. SO IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN START, UH, THE APPOINTMENTS FROM EACH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, TOM, YOU'LL GO FIRST. SURE. SO LAURIE TO POINT JULIE BRANSON, I WILL REAPPOINT CHRISTOPHER. CISCO. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH HIM. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. OUR MIND IS CLEAR. YES, SIR. UH, PLACED FORWARD, UH, BOB CATALANI FROM, UH, MR. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN, UH, PLACED FIVE JUDY BRANSON COUNSELING REWARD PLAY SIX, CHRIS DE FRANCISCO MAYOR CHOW AND PLAY SEVEN TOM SOURS, UH, BY A COUNCIL MEMBER WINNER. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. DON'T GO YET. ITEM 11, PRESENT, DISCUSS IT AND CONSIDER AN ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPOINTING FOR MEMBERS TO SERVE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. SORRY. THE CAROLINE JUVENILE CHRISTINE PRINCIPLE IS DOMINATED BY THE RESPECT OF COUNSELING MOTION BY PAUL OFFSETTING BY GQ, OR YOU FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. [11. Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on a Resolution Appointing Four (4) Members to Serve on the Board of Zoning Adjustment for Two-Year Terms Commencing January 1, 2022 and Providing an Effective Date.] OKAY. I TEND TO 11 PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION RATHER THAN UPON YOU FOR MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT FOR THE TWO YEAR TERMS COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2022, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE, OKAY. THIS IS THE SAME THING IN, UH, THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT. WE HAVE FOUR INDIVIDUALS WHOSE TERM IS EXPIRING THIS YEAR. THEY WERE ALSO NOTIFIED PRIOR TO, UH, THE APPLICATIONS BEING ONLINE, UH, ATTACHED. YOU WILL SEE WHO ARE THE CURRENT MEMBERS AND, UH, THEN A LISTING OF ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT LISTED THE BOARD, THE ZONING ADJUSTMENT AS THEIR NUMBER ONE CHOICE. UH, THE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT CURRENTLY SERVE, UH, MR. CRUMPTON AND MR. COPELAND, UH, PLACED P AND Z IS THEIR NUMBER ONE CHOICE. AND THEY HAVE BEEN SERVING ON BCA, UH, GENIE DUNLAP DID ASK FOR REAPPOINTMENT AND JT MACPHERSON, UH, CHOSE NOT TO APPLY. HE MAY BE MOVING. HIS HOUSE IS UP FOR SALE, AND HE'S SORT OF A LITTLE BIT ADDISON, BUT HE DOESN'T KNOW RIGHT NOW. SO, UM, IT'S COUNCIL, UH, OPTIONS. OKAY. UH, TOM, ALL RIGHT, LAURIE, I'D LIKE TO REAPPOINT GARY COMPTON AND I LIKED HER POINT ARENA OVER GETTING YEAH. UH, PRECIOUS, PRECIOUS AND RENA ON YOU. ALRIGHT, [01:35:03] SO DO I HAVE MOTION? I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE APPOINTEES AS STATED MOTION BY LORI WARD SEVEN BY CATHERINE WINTER, FINDING FAVOR TO THOSE FOUR MEMBERS THREE, SAY I, I POSE I 10 [12. Present, Discuss and Consider Action on a Resolution Appointing Individuals to Serve on the Community Partners Bureau for Three-Year Terms Commencing January 1, 2022 and Providing an Effective Date. ] 12 PRESENT DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACTION ON TO SERVE ON THEIR COMMUNITY FATHERS BUREAU FOR THREE YEAR TERMS COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2022, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UH, THIS, UM, COMMUNITY PARTNERS BUREAU HAS HAD SEVERAL, UH, ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES. UM, AT ONE POINT IN TIME, WE HAD THE DIFFERENT, UH, INDIVIDUALS APPOINTED TO REPRESENT THESE DIFFERENT BOARDS AND THE GIRLS. I HAD TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE THE LIAISON OVERALL OF THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION. UM, WE HAD SEVERAL, UH, PLACES AND WE HAD, UH, INCLUDED, UM, THERE, THE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPOINTED MAYBE LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE, BUT BECAUSE WE HELD OFF THAT WHOLE YEAR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GOING TO REORGANIZE SO THAT THE NUMBERS ARE OFF OF THEM A BIT. SO, UM, I REDID THIS RESOLUTION SO THAT YOU CAN, THE COUNCIL CAN SAY, YES, WE WANT REPRESENTATIVE TO THESE SPECIFIC COMMITTEES IN THAT SECOND, WHEREAS ON THAT RESOLUTION. AND IF YOU WANTED TO ADD SOMEONE, YOU COULD AT SOME POINT IN TIME, SO WE WOULD HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS, UH, WHAT COUNCIL WAS THINKING OF WORK THEY WANTED TO DO. UM, AND, UH, BECAUSE WE CHANGED THE POLICY AND PROCEDURE, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU STILL WANT THE STAGGERED TERMS AND THAT'S WHY I HAD IT OPEN TO, TO GIVE ME A NEW EXPIRATION DATE, ACCORDING TO MY RECORDS, UM, SUSIE OLIVER, SHE DOES EXPIRE THIS YEAR AND SHE'S ELIGIBLE FOR THREE-YEAR TERM. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO. UH, THE FORMER WAS WHEN I WAS, WE APPOINTED THAT INDIVIDUAL, BUT, UH, SHE RESIGNED AND DID NOT FULFILL HER POSITION. SO, UH, THAT'S ANOTHER POSITION. AND THEN THE DALLAS CAT LADY DID REAPPLY AS WELL. SO, UH, I WOULD PREFER, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE STAGGERED TERMS. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A COUNCIL DECISION HOW THEY WANT TO PROCEED, UH, WITH THIS, I'VE GOT TERRIBLE EFFECT THAT I HAD A POLICY QUESTION REGARDING THIS. UM, CAN YOU SHARE WITH US WHAT WE WERE WORKING WITH ON THESE, UH, THESE APPOINTMENTS AS FAR AS THEIR TERM? OKAY. AS SUSIE OLIVER? UH, SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON A THREE-YEAR TERM. HER TERM WAS COMING UP ON THIS YEAR. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE A FULL THREE-YEAR TERM. UM, THE OTHER, UH, THE FAMILY PLACE, UM, I HAVE THAT DOWN AS A TWO YEAR TERM CARRY OVER FROM WHAT WE HAD YEAR BEFORE, AND THEN, UH, THE DALLAS CANNED LADY, UM, THAT'S REALLY GOOD. AS FAR AS LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT DALLAS CAT LADY HAD COME UP. AND WHEN WE WERE DOING, WE WERE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT REWRITE, I DID NOT KNOW IF Y'ALL WANTED A ONE, TWO OR THREE YEAR. AND SO THAT WAS, UH, WAS NOT DISCUSSED WHEN WE MADE THE APPOINTMENT LAST YEAR. OKAY. SO, SO RIGHT NOW WITH POLICY LOOKING AT THIS RIGHT NOW, UM, WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS IF THERE'S FLEXIBILITY OR IF, WHEN WE DO THESE APPOINTMENTS FOR WOVEN IN DALLAS, CAT LADY, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THAT IS DEFINITIVE THREE-YEAR TERM. THAT'S THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN. HE SAYS, YOU'RE, YOU HAVE THREE-YEAR TERMS. AND THEN, UH, THERE'S SOME, YOU CAN'T APPOINT FOR A LESSER AMOUNT IF YOU WANTED. SO THAT'S THE WAY THE CITY MANAGER INTERPRETS THE POLICY MEAN. IT SAYS THE BUREAU CONSISTS OF INDIVIDUALS APPOINTED BY COUNCIL BUREAU MEMBERS SHALL EACH SERVE AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TOWN OF, TO COMMUNITY PARTNERS. BUREAU MEMBERS WILL CERTAINLY THREE-YEAR TERM INTENDED TO BEGIN ON JANUARY 1ST AND DECEMBER 31ST AND SPECIFIED IN THE APPOINTMENT. RESOLUTION COUNSEL MAY APPOINT A BOARD MEMBER FOR A SHORTER TERM AS DEEMED NECESSARY TO BANKRUPTCY. SO IF, IF YOU COULD, YOU COULD APPOINT SOMEBODY TO FILL THE UNEXPIRED TERM OF THAT. SO IF THEY WERE, IF THEY RESIGNED SIX MONTHS AGO, THREE OR APPOINTMENT, THEN YOU COULD GO TO SOMEBODY FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS, IF SO DESIRED, BUT IF IT'S NOT VACANT AND IT'S A THREE-YEAR YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. [01:40:03] WE'LL MAKE AN APPOINTMENT OR RECOMMENDATION THE POINT ON NATIONS, IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT. IT SAYS SUSIE OLIVER WAS APPOINTED 1, 1 20 19. SO THREE YEARS OF THAT IS 12, 12 TIMES, THREE YEARS. SHE'S SHE'S EXPIRING COUNSEL. I, HOW AN ASSET, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN KIND OF A CO COBY AND STUNNING KIND OF SCREEN OF EVERYTHING. AND I WOULD ASK IF WE COULD CONSIDER A WAIVER FOR SUSI. UH, SHE IS INTERESTED IN SERVING, UH, CONTINUING HER SERVICE WITH, UH, UH, FOR NO MORE THAN TWO YEARS, BUT, UH, I, UH, SHE HAS AN EXTRAORDINARY PASSION FOR THIS, UH, ORGANIZATION AND, AND REALLY LOVED THAT SERVICE HERE. AND SO I WAS ASKING IF WE COULD GRANT HER WAIVER WAIVER HERE. WELL, I THINK THE POINT IS, IS, IS WANTING TO SERVE TWO YEARS RATHER THAN NOT TURNED OUT AND GOT YOU HERE. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND DOING THAT, , IT'S NOT OUTLINED IN THE POLICY. COULD WE NOT, CAN WE NOT APPOINT FOR ANOTHER TERM? AND THEN SHE COULD DO POLICY AND THAT'S SURE , THAT'S FINE. SUSAN LAURIE CALL WITH THE FEATHERY PLACE. YEAH. UH, ONE OF THE I'VE SPOKE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE ABOUT THESE VARIOUS POSITIONS, BUT, UM, UM, ONE OF THE PEOPLE I SPOKE TO THAT HAD INTEREST IN SERVING FOR THE FAMILY PLACES, SCALE LEVINE. SO, UM, I WOULD LOVE IT IF, UH, IF WE WOULD CONSIDER HER NAME WITH ANY OTHER, UH, CONSIDERATIONS FOR NOMINATION, YOU'VE SPOKEN WITH HER AND SHE HAS A DESIRE TO SERVE. AND I WOULD, I WOULD ADD, UM, I WAS VERY SPECIFIC. UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SERVE AS A LIAISON FOR THE FAMILY PLACE IN BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, FOR THE TOWN AND FAMILY PLACE AND SHE, SHE DID, UM, SO THAT ALL THE WAY WITH THE NEED FOR THIS POSITION, AND DO YOU WANT IT FOR A FULL THREE-YEAR TERM OR IT'S NOT A VACANCY, THERE WAS A LADY THAT WAS APPOINTED TO THAT. AND SO IT WAS, UH, ANNA MARIA FRAMPTON HAD BEEN APPOINTED AND SHE DID. SO, UM, IT'S AN UNEXPIRED TERM, IF YOU WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY, OR JUST GIVE US A STAGGERED THING. SO WE COULD POINT HER FOR TWO YEARS LEFT. SO THEN IT ALL COMES BACK TO AT THE SAME TIME. AND ALSO THOUGHTS. KELLY ALSO SPOKE WITH KAREN PERRY. UM, SHE DOES A HUGE AMOUNT OF WORK, UM, WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE DALLAS CAFE. AND SHE WOULD, SHE WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE SERVING, AND THAT'S A 43 YEAR TERM. YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT? SO MAKE A MOTION SPECIFIED AS THREE YEARS OR TWO YEARS PLEASE. WELL, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND IS ALL OF THEM WILL BE THREE-YEAR TERMS EXCEPT MRS. LEVINE WILL BE FULFILLING FILLING UP SO, SO DO I HAVE EMOTION MAYOR IS TO ACCEPT THE NAMES AS SHOWING ME, UM, THE CURRENT PLACE MEMBERSHIP OR ANOTHER TERM, UH, PLACE TO, AND WE'D LIKE TO ADD THE NAME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE MOTION ABOUT GQ A SECOND BY MOLLY WILSON AND AN ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS THREE MEMBERS THREE, SAY AYE, [13. Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance for a 5.1-acre Property Located at the Southeast Corner of Spring Valley Road and Vitruvian Way, Currently Zoned Planned Development (PD) through Ordinance No. O07-034 (as amended), to Amend the Concept Plan and Providing for Approval of a Development Plan with Waivers to the Development Standards, Including but not Limited to, Street Build-To Line, Exterior Building Material and Building Color Standards for a Multi-Family Development Comprised of 85 Dwelling Units and Associated Amenity Space. Case 1839-Z/Vitruvian Townhomes.] [01:45:02] 13, COULD A PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AN HONOR, THIS 45.1 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SPRING VALLEY AND B2B AWAY CURRENTLY ZONED PLANT DEVELOPMENT PD THROUGH AUDIENCE NUMBER 0 7 0 3, 4 AS AMENDED TO AMEND THE CONCEPT PLAN AND PROVIDING FOR APPROVAL, A DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH WEAVERS TO DEVELOP THE STANDARDS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO STREET, BE ABLE TO LIE EXTERIOR BUILDING THAT UREA AND BUILDING COLORS STANDARDS FOR A MINI EVOLVEMENT COMPRISED OF 85 AND ASSOCIATED AMENITIES SPACE CASE NUMBER 180 3, 9 Z VITRUVIAN. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, 10 SHED DIRECTOR, BELDEN SERVICES, OR THE TOWN OF ADDISON. UH, SOME OF THE TRIBUNE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD IS A 121 ACRE TRACT OF LAND. THAT'S GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF MARSH LANE, UH, AND SPRING VALLEY ROAD, UH, AND, UH, IT'S BISECTED BY VITRUVIAN WAY. THE CORE, THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, IS ORIENTED ALONG, UH, VITRUVIAN WAY, UH, OR, UH, ACCESS TO CONTRIBUTED ART IS ACHIEVED. AND THEN ALSO YOU HAVE, UM, RECENT, UH, REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WITH FIORI, UH, SAVOY AND VITRUVIAN WEST. UM, SO THE VITRUVIAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, IS A MASTER PLAN, A REDEVELOPMENT VISION THAT WAS, UH, ESTABLISHED BY PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IN 2007. AT THAT TIME, UH, THAT WAS FOR A 99 ACRE TRACT OF LAND. UH, IN 2013, THE VISION FOR THE PROJECT WAS EXPANDED BY THE TOWN'S DEVELOPMENT PARTNER TOWN, UH, UDR, UH, ADDING, UH, JUST UNDER 22 ACRES OF LAND TO INCLUDE THE, UH, BROOKHAVEN VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER. AND THEN ALSO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OF OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT, UH, IN 2016, UH, THERE WERE ADDITIONAL, UH, AMENDMENTS TO THE VITRUVIAN PD ADOPTING A NEW CONCEPT PLAN AND THEN, UH, ADJUSTING THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND THE, THE PERMITTED USES IN THE PROJECT. SO FOR TONIGHT, UH, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON, UH, THE OVERALL CONCEPT PLAN AND THEN ALSO, UH, ONE PARTICULAR BLOCK LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF VITRUVIAN WAY AND SPRING VALLEY ROAD. UH, SO WITH THE CURRENT CONCEPT PLAN, UH, THERE ARE, UH, THERE'S A PROJECT ENVISIONED, UH, AT THIS 5.1 ACRE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, FOR A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, A RAT MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, UH, COMPRISED OF 368 URBAN MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, UH, WITH THIS REQUEST. AND REALLY THE FIRST COMPONENT OF THIS REQUEST, UDR HAS, UH, REQUESTED TO ACCOMMODATE A VISION FOR A LOWER DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY PRODUCT, SPECIFICALLY RENTAL TOWNHOMES, UH, COMPRISING P FIVE DWELLING UNITS, UH, THAT WOULD FRONT ON VITRUVIAN WAY IN SPRING VALLEY ROAD, AS WELL AS BELLA LANE. UM, SO THE FIRST COMPONENT OF THIS REQUEST WOULD BE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENT TO THE CONCEPT PLAN. UH, IF THE CONCEPT PLAN IS TO BE AMENDED, UH, THE SECOND, UH, COMPONENT OF THIS QUESTION BE CONSIDERED, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, GUIDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE PROPOSED 85 MULTIFAMILY UNITS ON THAT PROPERTY. UM, SO WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AS I NOTED EARLIER, UM, IT IS A MULTIFAMILY AND THAT IT IS A RENTAL PROJECT. HOWEVER, THE HOUSING TYPE THAT'S PROPOSED IS REALLY A TOWNHOME HOUSING TYPES AT LEAST WOULD BE THREE-STORY UNITS, UH, WITH, UH, UH, ON A COMMON WALL VERTICALLY INTEGRATED, UH, AND THEN EACH UNIT, UH, WOULD FRONT ON A PUBLIC STREET OR TO THE INTERIOR OF THIS CONCEPT. YOU SEE THAT EACH UNIT, UH, FRONTS ON OPEN SPACE, WHETHER IT'S THE TRAIL CORRIDOR THAT YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, WHICH IS THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE, OR IN THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE NEAR THE AMENITY, YOU HAVE UNITS FRONTING TOWARDS, UH, SMALL COMMON YARDS, UH, AND, UH, FACING, UH, UH, THE UNITS FACING EACH OTHER. UM, THAT TRAIL IS A MAJOR COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT THAT IS REFLECTING IMPLEMENTATION OF THE TOWN'S TRAIL MASTER PLAN FOR THIS AREA. SO THAT PROVIDES CONNECTIVITY, UH, FROM THE NORTH AT SPRING VALLEY, AND THEN DOWNWARDS TO THE SOUTH, UH, AT BELLA LANE THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL EXTENSION ALONG VELVET LANE, AS [01:50:01] ADDITIONAL PROJECTS I BROUGHT FORWARD TO INCLUDE THE EXTENSION OF LANE. UM, THIS SITE HAS ACCESS FROM MULTIPLE LOCATIONS, UH, PRIMARILY, AND THE MAIN ENTRY IS OFF OF THE TRIDION WAY, UH, THAT IS, UM, UH, ALLOWS FOR A LEFT TURN OFF A TRUE BEING, AND THEN A RIGHT TURN IN, UH, THAT LEFT TURN IS A HOOD OF LEFT TURN. SO YOU COULD NOT MAKE A LEFT TURN OUT OF THAT ACCESS POINT. UH, YOU CAN DO THAT, UH, ON THE, UH, MINOR STREET, UH, DOUBLE LANE. AND THEN ALSO YOU'LL SEE, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROJECTS TO THE RIGHT OF THE PAGE, THERE IS AN ACCESS POINT ON SPRING VALLEY ROAD, UM, THAT, UH, THE IMPORTANT PIECE OF THAT IS THAT IS EMERGENCY ACCESS ALL THE WAY. SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, UH, RESTRICTED AND GATED TO WILD JUST FOR, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS. SO, UM, PROBABLY THE MOST UNIQUE THING ABOUT THIS CONCEPT IS ONE THE HOUSING TYPE ON A RENTAL FORMAT, UH, THAT IS A, UH, UNIQUE HOUSING TYPE IN TOWN, BUT THEN ALSO, UH, THE, UH, UNIT MIX, TYPICALLY WHEN WE SEE MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY IN PLACES LIKE VITRUVIAN AND ADDISON CIRCLE, IT'S VERY HEAVILY SKEWED TOWARDS A ONE BEDROOM UNIT MIX. UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST THE OPPOSITE WITH A TWO AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS BEING OFFERED AND, UH, NEARLY 80% OF THE TOTAL UNIT MIX, UH, BEING COMPRISED OF TWO BEDROOM UNITS OR LARGER. UM, THE SMALLEST UNIT SIZE, THE SMALLEST TWO BEDROOM UNIT IS 1500 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE. AND THEN, UH, THE LARGEST UNIT ACCOMMODATED IN THIS PROJECT IS JUST OVER 2200 SQUARE FEET. UH, WITH THE AVERAGE BEING JUST UNDER 2000 SQUARE FEET, UH, EACH OF THESE UNITS WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN, UH, DEDICATED, UH, PARKING GARAGE, UH, OR, UH, UH, ATTACHED GARAGE. SO ON THE GROUND FLOOR PROVIDED, UH, WITH ACCESS FROM AN ALLEY, UM, WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC OF PARKING. UH, SO PER THE VITRUVIAN PARK PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 151 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED. UH, THIS PROJECT, UH, BY PROPOSING 215 PARKING SPACES HAS EXCESS PARKING CAPACITY, UH, FOR THE VITRUVIAN PARK DEVELOPMENTS. THE PD HAS REQUIREMENTS FOR THE COMBINATION OF PUBLIC OPEN SPACE. THEY HAVE SATISFIED THAT FOR THIS PROJECT, UH, WITH THE, UH, PREVIOUS, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF THE LARGE OPEN SPACE THAT WE KNOW AS THE TRIVIUM PARK. UM, ALSO OF COURSE WITH THIS PROJECT, UH, THIS SITE IS A REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE WITH REDEVELOPMENT IS, UH, THERE ARE EXISTING AND HIS EXISTING TREE CANOPY ON THE SITE, AND THIS PROJECT WILL IMPACT THAT. SO WITH THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REMOVE 629 CALIBER INCHES OF, UH, UH, TREES AND WILL MITIGATE THAT, UH, PROVIDING, UH, 686 CALIBER INCHES OF NEW PLANTINGS, UM, WITH STREETSCAPE, UH, THERE WILL BE, UH, STREET TREES, UM, ACCOMMODATED WHERE THOSE DON'T CURRENTLY EXIST. SO, UH, YOU SEE, UM, ATTRIBUTE AND WAY IN SPRING VALLEY THAT THERE'S ALSO ALREADY A VERY WELL ESTABLISHED STREETSCAPE. UM, BUT PRIMARILY WHERE YOU'LL SEE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, IS ON THE NORTHERN FRONTAGE OF BELLA LANE, WHERE IT WILL BEGIN TO LOOK LIKE, UH, THE SOUTHERN, UH, FRONTAGE AND BELLE LANE WHERE THE FJORD PROJECT EXISTS, UM, WITH THIS AS WELL. UM, AS IT'S TYPICAL, UH, FOR PROJECTS IN ADDISON, UH, IT'S REQUIRED TO ACCOMMODATE A 20% LANDSCAPE AREA. THIS PROPOSAL EXCEEDS THAT BY PROVIDING 27 PER CENT LANDSCAPE AREA. UM, ANOTHER UNIQUE COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT IS THAT USE OF ARTIFICIAL TURF. UH, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED A DOG RUN AREA WITH ARTIFICIAL TURF, AND THEN FOR EACH OF THE UNITS, A SMALL PORTION OF THE PATIO SPACE THAT'S PROVIDED WITH THE UNIT, UH, IS, WOULD BE ARTIFICIAL TURF AS WELL. UM, AS THE APPLICANT GETS INTO MORE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT REVIEW WITH TOWN STAFF, WE WILL NEED TO ENSURE THAT THAT TERM CAN BE APPROPRIATELY MAINTAINED, UM, UH, WITHOUT CREATING ISSUES, UM, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT. SO, UH, BUILDING, UH, CONSTRUCTION IS A SIGNIFICANT COMPONENT OF THE VITRUVIAN PARK, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. UH, AS THAT DISTRICT IS WRITTEN, UH, BUILDINGS REQUIRE, UH, 80% MASON, THREE CONSTRUCTION ON ALL SIDES VISIBLE OR FRONTING THE STREET, AND THEN A MAXIMUM OF THREE BUILDING MATERIALS. UM, THIS IS WHERE THE APPLICANT IS, UH, BEGINNING TO APPROACH SOME OF THE FLEXIBLE DESIGN STANDARDS [01:55:01] INCLUDED IN THE MATURITY AND PARK PD, UH, ONE BY PROVIDING FOR, UM, UH, FACADE MATERIAL AND PALLETS. THAT INCLUDES FOUR PRIMARY MATERIALS, AND THEN ALSO PROVIDE BY PROVIDING A, A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STUCCO, UH, AND THE FACADE DESIGN, UH, REALLY USING THAT AS A PRIMARY FACADE MATERIAL. UM, AS THAT PD IS WRITTEN, IT IS SILENT ON STUCCO BEING A MASONRY MATERIAL. I WILL SHARE THAT IN THE PAST. UH, SO WITH THE VITRUVIAN WEST PROJECT WITH YOUR, THE BOY, YOU DO SEE A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STUCCO, UH, BEING EMPLOYED. AND IT HAS BEEN THE TOWN'S PAST PRACTICE TO CONSIDER THAT, UH, UH, AS CONSISTENT WITH MASONRY CONSTRUCTION, BUT WE CAN DISCUSS THAT MORE. UH, OTHER CONSIDERATIONS WITH THE FACADE PLAN IS, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT USE OF, UM, WHITE FACADE COLORING, UM, AND, UH, THE PD, UH, AS IT'S WRITTEN REALLY LIMITS WHITE AS A ACCENT MATERIAL AND LESS THAN 1% OF THE, UH, COLOR PALETTE, YOU USED AHMED BUILDINGS. SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS AN EXCESS OF THAT. AND THEN ONE OTHER KEY THING TO CONSIDER AS WE GET INTO THEIR, UM, WAIVER REQUESTS IS, UH, THE USE OF, UM, TRANSPARENT, UH, UH, MATERIALS TO, UH, SERVE AS THE ENCLOSURE FOR BALCONIES AND PATIOS OF THE APPLICANT IS, UH, PROVIDING AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT, THAT WE'LL DISCUSS MORE IN A MOMENT. UM, SO WITH THOSE FLEXIBLE DESIGN STANDARDS, WE'LL START WITH, UH, THE STREETSCAPE. UH, SO, UM, WITH THE PD, UH, IT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT FOR, UM, PARTICULARLY REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS LIKE THIS AND PROJECTS THAT ARE MORE URBAN INFORM, UH, IMPLEMENTING THESE PROJECTS CAN BE QUITE COMPLEX. SO IT ACKNOWLEDGES THE NEED TO CONSIDER FLEXIBILITY, UH, THROUGH THE CONSIDERATION OF THESE PROJECTS AND THEN ALLOWS FOR A PROCESS BY WHICH THE APPLICANT CAN REQUEST WAIVERS TO DEVELOP THE STANDARDS. SO THE FIRST ONE BEING REQUESTED RELATES TO, UH, DO STREET BUILD TO LINER REQUIREMENTS. SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT REQUIREMENT IS IS THAT, UM, IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE AN URBAN, UH, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY STREETSCAPE, IT REQUIRES THE BUILDING TO BE PUSHED UP TO THE STREET AND TO ENGAGE THE STREET. UM, AND, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, ESTABLISHING THE STREET, BUILDING TWO LINES, OR, UM, ALL THE PUBLIC PARAMETER STREETS THAT, UH, FRAME THIS PROJECT, UH, WHERE THERE IS AN ISSUES ON VITRUVIAN WAY, AND THAT PRIMARILY RELATES TO THE CURVATURE, THE CURVILINEAR NATURE OF THE TRIVIAL WAY FOR PART OF THIS PROJECT. SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BIT IN THIS IMAGE. SO KIND OF WHERE THE BUILDINGS, UM, COME TO A, UH, TOGETHER AT A BIT OF AN ANGLE. UM, IT, UH, THE APPLICANT WAS NOT ABLE TO MEET THE NINE FOOT, UH, STREET BILL LINE, UH, STAFF SUPPORTS THEIR REQUESTS, UH, VARY FROM IT. UM, ONE IT'S, IT'S JUST A HARD DESIGN THING TO SOLVE, BUT TWO, I THINK THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE THAT'S CREATED FROM THAT CONSIDERATION DOES, UH, ADD VISUAL APPEAL TO THAT STREETSCAPE. SO STAFF DOES SUPPORT THAT REQUEST. UH, THE NEXT, UH, DESIGN STANDARD CONSIDERATIONS, UH, RELATE TO, UH, THE BUILDING FACADE DESIGN, UH, FIRST, UH, RELATING TO STUCCO. SO, UH, STUCCO IS A FACADE MATERIAL BEING USED IN THIS PROJECT. IT COMPRISES FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT PORTIONS OF THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS OF THESE BUILDINGS. UH, AND, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS DONE THAT AS A, AS A MEANS TO PROVIDE A, UH, A VERY DESIGNED A VARIETY OF MATERIALS AND PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING CHARACTER IN VITRUVIAN. UM, SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, TRADITIONALLY, UH, AND THIS IS PARTICULARLY APPARENT WITH THE TRIBUNE WEST STAFF HAS CONSIDERED, AND THE TOWN HAS CONSIDERED STUCCO TO BE, UH, TREATED IT MUCH LIKE A MASONRY MATERIALS. SO IT'S COUNTED TOWARDS THE 80% REQUIREMENT. THAT IS NOT HOW THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN. SO YOU DO HAVE CONSIDERATION AND YOU DO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO, UH, UH, NOT ACCOMMODATE STUCCO AT THE PERCENTAGE THAT'S BEING PROVIDED HERE. BUT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE ON STAFF, UH, THE KEY THING AS IT RELATES TO MATERIALS IS THAT AN ATTRACTIVE BUILDING IS DESIGNED THAT IT VARIES THE USE OF MATERIALS AND PROVIDES FOR APPROPRIATE RELIEF IN DESIGN. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE MAINTAINED AS A QUALITY MATERIAL THAT CAN BE MAINTAINED AS THE BUILDING AGES. AND STUCCO [02:00:01] IS, UH, TYPICALLY AN ACCEPTABLE MATERIAL, UH, NOT ONLY AN ADDISON IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT IN SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES IN THE METROPLEX. UH, THE NEXT ISSUE, UH, RELATES TO THE, UM, UH, PRIMARY FACADE COLOR BEING WHITE. UM, ONE THING THAT CAME UP WITH THAT IS YOU SEE WHITE BEING USED THROUGHOUT THIS PROJECT. UH, THIS EXAMPLE HERE, YOU CAN SEE WITH FIORI THAT YOUR SHADES OF FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT USE OF WHITES, YOU SEE IT WITH PORTIONS OF THE TRIBUNE WEST. SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COLOR PALETTE EMPLOYED IN THE TRUE RIYADH NOW, UM, WITH THE PLANS THAT WERE VIEWED BY P AND Z. AND NOW WHAT'S BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, UM, UH, YOU MAY HAVE NOTED THAT THERE IS, WAS A DISCREPANCY IN TERMS OF THE TONE OF WHITE. SO WHEN P AND Z REVIEWED THIS APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED SOME PLANS THAT WERE VERY DETAILED, BUT ONLY HALF OF THE FACADE PLANTS ARE COLORED. SO THE COLOR PLANS THAT WERE DEPICTED AT THE PNZ MEETING SPECIFIED, UH, EXTRA WHITE AS THE TONE, UM, FOLLOWING THAT MEETING STAFF REQUESTED THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE FOR, UH, COLOR PLANS FOR ALL OF THE FACADE PLANS WHEN THEY APPLICANT DID THAT, UH, THEY CHANGED THE WHITE, TELL THEM THAT THEY USE VERY SLIGHTLY TO, UH, A COLOR CALLED SNOWBOUND, VERY LIMITED DIFFERENCE. UH, YOU SAW IT, UH, PERHAPS IN OUR RESPONSE TO COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND REALLY EVEN TODAY, UM, WE STILL FEEL THAT'S CONSISTENT THE REQUEST HERE. IT WOULD REQUIRE A WAIVER, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THEY DID CHANGE THE COLOR VERY SLIGHTLY FROM P AND Z CONSIDERATION TO NOW CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION WITH THIS NEW COLOR. UH, IT IS CONSISTENT ONCE AGAIN WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND IT IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE PD ORDINANCE THAT WE DO RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE THE NEW COLOR, THOUGH, IF YOU DO WISH TO, YOU COULD APPROVE WHAT PNZ APPROVED THE WIDER TALENT, THE EXTRA WHITE, AND THEN, UM, ON THE PATIO ENCLOSURE ISSUE. SO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, THE CODE REQUIRES A PATIO TO HAVE A METAL OR RAW IRIN, UH, ENCLOSURE, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT. THE APPLICANT FOR SOME OF THE PATIOS HAS, UH, PROVIDED FOR MASONRY ENCLOSURE. SO IT'S NOT AS TRANSPARENT. THAT'S AN INTERESTING DESIGN TREATMENT STAFF DOES SUPPORT THAT IT PROVIDES VISUAL INTEREST FOR THE PROJECT. SO WITH THIS CASE, STAFF DID NOTIFY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, SIX RECEIVED NOTICES. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A, ANY RESPONSES FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THIS PROJECT. UM, AT THE NOVEMBER CLIMBING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, THE COMMISSION DID VOTE TO APPROVE BY OH SIX ZERO WITH ONE COMMISSIONER RECRUITS, RECUSING THEMSELVES SELVES DUE TO A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. UH, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST. UH, THE QUALITY OF THE PROJECT, THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS HOUSING TYPE, UH, WILL BE A VALUE TO THIS AREA AND TO OF ADDISON. AND WE DO RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE WITH THE NEW, UH, SNOWBOUND TOWN OR THE WHITE, UH, FACADES THAT ARE PROPOSED. UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, ROB ST. JOHN, UH, FROM UDR AS WELL AS SOME OF HIS COLLEAGUES WITH THE EDR TEAM HERE AT ATTENDANCE. SO WE'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. UM, YOU, YOU, YOU MENTIONED STUCCO A COUPLE OF TIMES. UM, I DUNNO, MAYBE TOM COULD ALSO COME IN ON THIS. IT WAS ALWAYS MY IMPRESSION THAT STUCK OVER SOMETHING LESS IN QUALITY NOW. I MEAN, I COULD, UM, I COULD BE CORRECTED ON THAT. I WOULD APPRECIATE JEALOUS THOUGHTS A LOT OF TIMES THEY USE, BUT WHEN YOU'RE SAYING STUCCO, YOU GUYS ARE PLANNING TO USE CEMENT BASE POINT PLASTER. IT'S NOT. SO THE DIFFERENCE IS WHAT PEOPLE CALL HE POSTS, WHICH IS THERE'S AN ACRYLIC THAT PUTS THAT THEY PUT ON, UM, OVER THE TOP OF INSULATION. AND THAT STUFF IS SUBSTANDARD BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY EASY TO PUNCH HOLES IN IT AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF. SO AS LONG AS IT'S CEMENT BASED PLASTER FINISH, STOP OR PLASTER, I THINK IT'S OKAY. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S DURABLE AND HOLDS UP AND IT'S HURTING. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TYPICALLY INTERVAL COLOR. YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO PAINT IT. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT LIKE PAINT FLAKING OFF A LOT OF TIMES, AS FAR AS QUALITY AND MOVING DOWN THE ROAD, THAT IT STARTS TO LOOK BAD. YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT AS CLOSE TO A BRICK THING. SO I'M IN AS LONG AS IT'S CEMENT BASED [02:05:01] PLASTER AND NOT ETHOS THAT I'M OKAY WITH. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT IT IS. YEAH. SO THE TERM WE WOULD USE, UM, THAT'S TYPICALLY ACCEPTED AS THREE-STEP STUCK OUT. UM, THAT IS MY EXPECTATION AS WELL. AND, UH, ETHOS, WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE CALLED AS THAT ETS, UH, THAT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE, UH, IN THIS CONDITION. I THINK IF THIS WAS, THESE WERE THE LARGER BUILDINGS THAT WERE MORE DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN, I'D PROBABLY HAVE MORE CHALLENGES WITH THE, THEIR EMPLOYMENT OF STUCCO. UM, BUT I THINK GIVEN THAT THESE EXTRA SMALLER BUILDINGS EASY TO MAINTAIN, AND I THINK I, I LIKE THE ABILITY TO, UH, UH, ONE THING WITH THE USE OF WHITE AND THE ORIGIN OF THIS ORDINANCE. THIS ORDINANCE RESTRICTING WHITE WAS, WAS REALLY DONE AT A TIME WHEN WHITE WAS NOT A POPULAR COLOR. NOW WE HAD LOTS OF REQUESTS FOR WHITE AND IT'S A VERY TRENDY COLOR. WE'RE RESTRICTING IT, BUT WITH THE USE OF STUCCO, UH, YOU CAN REALLY, UH, IF WHITE BECOMES NOT TRENDY AGAIN, IT'S VERY EASY TO CHANGE THAT. AND SO IT, IT HELPS THE BUILDING, UH, PROBABLY EVOLVE AND BE, UH, MORE FLEXIBLE OVER TIME AS CONDITIONS CHANGE AND AS THEY NEED TO, TO SHAPE THIS PRODUCT FOR, FOR FUTURE NEEDS. BUT TO BE CLEAR THAT COUNCIL DOES HAVE DISCRETION TO REQUIRE THEM TO, UH, HAVE MORE TRADITIONAL MASONRY KENT. WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SQUARE FOOTAGE, MORE HEIGHT, MORE SCALE, AND AGAIN, DID YOU SAY THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A DOG ON THE PROPERTY AND THERE WILL, I CAN SHOW HER THAT THAT'S RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE TRAIL, ALL BETWEEN BETRAYAL AND RIGHT NEXT TO THAT DOG, ONE SEC, IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE TRAIL UNDERNEATH YOUR DOG, THE DOG PARK HERE, RIGHT THERE. IS THAT A WALL? WHAT IS THE PROPERTY PROPERTY LINE SIDEWALK SIDEWALKER ROOMS OR NOT? AND THERE IS A WALL AT THAT PROPERTY BOUNDARY. THAT WAS ONE THAT WAS ONE OF THAT'S COMING DOWN. UH, NO, THAT WAS ONE OF THE DESIGN CONSTRAINTS THAT THE UDR FOLKS HAD IN IMPLEMENTING THAT TRAIL. UM, THEY CAN DISCUSS THAT MORE A BIT, UH, BUT, UH, IT'S A PRETTY TIGHT AREA WHO DO WE KNOW WHAT'S ON THE, UH, FARMER SPREADSHEET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE. AND WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS THAT IT KIND OF LINES UP WITH A FIREPLACE AND THERE WAS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. IT LOOKS LIKE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX HAS SOME TYPE OF DOG, DOG PARK, SOMETHING OR ANOTHER NEAR THAT SAME AREA IS THAT, DID WE KNOW THAT'S OKAY. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT PARTICULAR APARTMENT COMPLEX. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK THAT UP. CAN YOU JUST KIND OF THINKING ABOUT NOISE, MAYBE POSSIBLE UNDERSTAND, I JUST GOOGLED IT THREE STEP, UH, STUCK OVER BEERS. I BOUGHT IT EACH ONE INCH THICKNESS. SO THEY TALKED ABOUT IT WAS APPLIED THE PAPER AND SCRATCH THE WRONG COLORING TOP COAT, THE THICK, BUT IN CALIFORNIA, MOST HOUSES BUILD WITH STUCCO, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A BIG PROBLEM WITH THAT. SO AS LONG AS IT'S NOT IN THE TRANSITION, THE OLD STYLE YOU CAN PUNCH ALWAYS. THAT'S WHAT I HAD IN MY MIND. THAT IS ALSO IS UNSAFE BECAUSE TWO THINGS SHOULD GO THAT GO, SUE GOT FOR SOME KID, WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT WALL. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THERE, SO THAT I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO DISCUSS MORE WITH ROBIN, HIS TEAM AND THE CIVIL DESIGN PROCESS. I THINK THERE'S A DESIRE, UH, FROM THEIR TEAM TO SORT OF HAVE THAT WALL REMAIN IN PLACE. WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC CONCERN ABOUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT I EVER CONCERN THAT I'M JUST SCOPED JUST QA, YOU KNOW, CURIOUS WHAT IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TRAIL TO THE EAST OF THAT? WELL, CORRECT. [02:10:01] AM I SEEING THAT RIGHT BELOW THAT WALL? IS THAT A TRAIL DOWN THERE AND THE WEB, SO THE TRAIL WILL BE, UM, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY, SO IT WILL NOT BE SEPARATED BY A WALL. OKAY. SO YOU'LL SEE, LIKE YOU SEE TO THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE PAGE, THOSE, THOSE PATIO SPACES, WE'LL, WE'LL BE LOOKING OUT RIGHT ON THAT TRAIL, THE TRAIL INSIDE THE WALLS. SO THAT'S WHY THEY PERFECT. GOOD. THANK YOU. WITH REGARD TO THE TURF. I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS OR THE NOT TOO DISTANT PAST ABOUT TURF AND US AND CIRCLE. AND IT SEEMS TO MY RECOLLECTION THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE THERE WERE GOING TO BE SOME KINDS OF CONSIDERATIONS FOR LOOKING AT HOW IT INTERACTS WITH THE REGULAR CYCLES OF THE MAJOR. AND I FORGET WHAT THE DETAILS ARE, BUT I'M JUST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THE TURF IS FINE, BUT THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO POP UP ABOUT HAVING TERM PLAYER. YOU MAY, YOU MAY RECALL THAT THE CONVERSATION ABOUT AN AD IS CERTAINLY ABOUT THE TURF WAS RELATED TO A PILOT PROJECT BECAUSE BEFORE THE ADDED ARTIFICIAL TURF WAS NOT AN OPTION IN THOSE FRONT YARD AREAS, ET CETERA, BUT AS TREES MATURED AND GREW UP, IT WAS HARDER FOR GRASS TO GROW IN FRONT OF THE TOWNHOMES OVER THERE IN THE EDISON CIRCLE AREA. AND AS A RESULT, THE PROPERTY, UH, OWNERS OVER THERE ASKED FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS PILOT PROGRAM TO SEE IF, UH, TO ALLOW THEM TO TEST THE TURF AND TO SEE IF IT WAS A VIABLE SOLUTION FOR THEM. BUT THE, THE APPEARANCE OF THAT AREA ALSO SAVING THEM WATER. THE TOWN AT THE TIME, THE TOWN STAFF WAS, UH, RETICENT TO, UH, MAKE A CHANGE FROM NATURAL GROUND COVER TO TURF BECAUSE, UH, IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE WORK, THE WORRY ABOUT, UM, MAINTAINING IT AND HAVING IT, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LONG LIFE, UH, SO TO SPEAK, IT ALSO CREATES HEAT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT, THAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH. SO, UH, THE, THE PILOT PROGRAM TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MADE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE CHECKING IN ON IT IS PROVEN TO BE, UH, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, CALL IT SUCCESSFUL, BUT IT'S NOT PROVEN TO BE AN ISSUE. AND I THINK JANET, IF YOU WANT TO COME IN AND KITCHEN TO THIS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BACK AT THE TIME WAS IF WE ALLOW IT IN ONE PLACE, IT COULD ALSO BE A CONSIDERATION AND OTHER, SO TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE UNCLE PILOT. SO I BELIEVE ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES ALSO IS, UM, THE ISSUE WITHOUT US IN CIRCLE IS THE LAWNS WERE COUNTED AS THERE WERE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE SPACE. AND THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE IN OUR ORDINANCE SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIVING PLANT MATERIALS. SO I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCREPANCY. I BELIEVE KIM CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK THE ARTIFICIAL TURF IN THIS PROJECT IS SEPARATE FROM THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE. SO THERE'S ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES. UM, AND THEN AS WE WORKED THROUGH THIS, WE WOULD REQUIRE THE TERM THAT GOES IN AND TO MEET THE STANDARDS THAT WE ESTABLISHED IN THAT PILOT PROGRAM. UM, WE HAVE DONE PERIODIC CHECKS ON THE ARTIFICIAL TURF THAT HAS GONE IN, AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN CONCERNS. YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT IF PETS TORE IT UP AND THEY PATCHED IT AND IT DIDN'T LOOK CONSISTENT. WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OF THAT. AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT IT'S BEEN MAINTAINED. UM, IT LOOKS BETTER THAN THE CONDITION THAT WAS THERE PRIOR BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO KEEP SOMETHING ON THE GROUND AND THAT HEAVY SHADE CONDITIONS. SO WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD CONCERNS WITH THAT PILOT PROJECT. THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. AND KEN, UM, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON, ON THAT SUBJECT, THANK YOU SAID WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA, WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO, TO CONTINUE LOOKING AT IT, TO MAKE SURE IT'S MAINTAINED. YOU SAID SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. DO WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, OR YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN THAT IT'S GIVEN THAT IT'S NOT, UH, UM, AN ISSUE WITH SATISFYING THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS PROJECT. IT REALLY BECOMES MORE OF AN ENGINEERING DESIGN ISSUE. UM, UH, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE WASTE THAT'S GENERATED AND HOW YOU HANDLE THAT WASTE, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN MADE AWARE OF. WE NEED TO WORK OUT WITH THE CIVIL ENGINEERING STAFF THAT DOES THE ENGINEERING DEVELOPMENT REVIEW. [02:15:01] UM, LESS OF OUR CONCERN IS WITH THE SMALLER SPACES THAT ARE ALLOCATED TO EACH UNIT. UH, PROBABLY OUR, OUR GREATER CONCERN IS WITH THE, UM, WELL, THE DOG GROUND IS NOT LARGE. IT'S MORE SUBSTANTIAL AND IT'S MORE LIKELY TO HAVE MORE CONCENTRATED, UH, WASTE CONSIDERATIONS. SO WE DO NEED TO ENSURE THAT THAT'S BEING APPROPRIATELY DESIGNED AND CAN BE TO SUPPORT THE DEMAND THAT IT WILL GENERATE FROM THE, THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HOPE WE WOULD CONSIDER IS, IS IT WILL REQUIRE MAINTENANCE. OKAY. I'VE GOT A SYNTHETIC GRASS IN THE BACKYARD, MY SECOND INSTALLED BECAUSE I DIDN'T MAINTAIN IT PROPERLY. UM, SO IT'S, LET'S SAY YOU LEARN SOMETIMES, RIGHT? AND, AND, UM, BUT IF IT'S, IF IT'S NOT MAINTAINED PROPERLY, UM, YOU CAN LOSE THE AESTHETIC SHOULD YOU, THAT YOU FIRST HAD. UM, SO JUST, I WOULD KEEP THAT IN CONSIDERATION, WE MAY NEED TO, UH, HAVE SOME TYPE OF PLAN WHERE WE CAN COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT WHAT ABSOLUTELY. AND, UM, WHAT JANA SPOKE TO WITH THE REGULATIONS THAT WERE ADOPTED, THOSE ARE, ARE QUITE, UM, UH, TARGETED TOWARDS THE MAINTENANCE ISSUE. UH, IT'S LESS THE INSTALLATION. ANYONE CAN INSTALL IT EFFECTIVELY. IT'S HOW IT'S MAINTAINED AFTER IT'S INSTALLED IS THE CHALLENGE. SO, UM, UH, I THINK WE HAVE THE TOOLS TO HANDLE THAT. AND I DO THINK WE BELIEVE, UH, I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE A PROPERTY MANAGER. THAT'S ALL SEEN FOR THAT AS WELL. ALSO, I BELIEVE DDR HAS GOOD TRACK RECORD. THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITY. SO, UH, I BELIEVE THEY WILL COME TO YOU AS DOING A GOOD JOB. I DON'T WORRY ABOUT YOU. YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL VISIT ON AN INDIVIDUAL PATIO. YOU CAN'T MONITOR THAT 24 7 WHEN A RESIDENT. SO SINCE IT'S COMPARABLE, I BELIEVE IT'S, YOU'RE INVOLVED IN THE FUTURE. APPLICANT, A MULTIFAMILY. SO THE COMMON AREAS WILL BE, UH, ONLY CONTAINED BY UDR. CAN THEY SPEAK TO THAT? LET ME, LET ME HOLD THE NUMBER FOR PUBLIC HEARING. WE CAN ASK HOW'S THAT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN DECIDES THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE DO SO. SO ROB, CAN YOU EXPLAIN, UH, WE HAVE A MICROPHONE JUST STATE YOUR NAME. YEAH. MY NAME IS ROB ST. JOHN, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE UDR. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE IN TERMS OF PRICE POINT. YOU KNOW, IT'S TOUGH TO SAY IN THIS EXACT MOMENT, UH, TRULY BECAUSE IT IS MARKET DRIVEN, BUT I GAVE HIM THE WHOLE MIX. I WOULD SIT IN THE SIZE OF THE UNITS, THE ONE BEDROOM FOR PLANS AROUND 1500 SQUARE FEET. UH, THOSE ARE LIKELY TO RENT AROUND 2,500 A MONTH. THEY ARE FAIRLY LARGE. THEY HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE THERE'LL BE BRAND NEW, UM, WITH A UNIQUE AMENITY PACKAGE. UH, WHEN YOU WORK AT FEWER, EITHER ACTUALLY ARE NINE TOWNHOMES THAT FEWER, THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE TRIVIUM PARK AND THE MARKET RIGHT THERE IS AROUND, YOU KNOW, CALL IT 3,200 OR SO THOSE ARE ALL TWO BEDROOMS. SO I WOULD FEEL THAT THE TWO BEDROOMS HERE WOULD RUN IN THAT PRICE RANGE. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE THREE BEDROOMS, JUST GIVEN THE SHEER SIZE, UH, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO 2300 SQUARE FEET, THOSE WOULD BE, UM, HIGHER THAN THAT. CALL IT IN THE 3,500 RANGE, MORE QUESTION OF COURSE, ABOUT THE TREES BETTER, RIGHT ON PAGE UP THERE'S SEVEN TREES SHOW IN THAT POLLINATORS AREA. OR SO THOSE, THOSE DEPICTED THERE, THOSE SEVEN TREES ARE THOSE EXISTING TREES. THERE ARE, UH, SO ADJACENT TO, SO WE TRY TO BE THOUGHTFUL AND THE ART INSTALLATION BY THE ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION AND HOW YOU TREAT THAT OPEN SPACE CONNECTION THROUGH THE SITE. SO THERE ARE FOUR TREES BEHIND THAT, THAT ART INSTALLATION, UH, THAT IS ACTUALLY WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS. SO WHERE THOSE TREES ARE. UH, WE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DO NOT OWN THAT LAND. UM, BUT BEHIND THAT, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL THEM THIS PICTURE, BUT WE ARE THINKING THAT YOU COULD DO A THOUGHTFUL CONNECTION INTO THE COMMUNITY BY ADDING SOME MORE PLANTINGS A PATHWAY, UH, JUST TO KIND OF PULL PEOPLE IN AND IN CELEBRATE THAT, THAT ARTWORK ON THE CORNER. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE PATH THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, IT MEANDERS FROM [02:20:01] THAT AREA. AND THEN, UH, IT TAKES YOU THROUGH THE, UM, UH, FRONTING CONDITION AND BY THE AMENITY SPACE AND THEN OUT TOWARDS BELLA LANE SO THAT THEY VERY THOUGHTFULLY, UH, LOOKED AT THAT AS A, AS A WAY TO PROVIDE, UH, A PLEASANT WALK THROUGH THE CORE OF THE COMMUNITY, CORRECT 85 TOWNHOUSE. AND I MIGHT JUST ADD, UM, YOUR WORDS, A LOT OF TALKING ABOUT THE MASONRY AND THE, THE AMOUNT OF STUCCO. UH, BUT ON THAT NOTE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, UH, REALLY THE FRIENDS OF THE TOWNHOMES, THERE'S NOT A TON OF STUCCO WHERE YOU REALLY SEE IT IS ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE TOWNHOMES ABOVE THE TWO CAR GARAGE. UH, AND SO YOU TRY AND GET FALL FORWARD AND HOW THOSE TOWNHOMES FACE EACH OTHER AS WELL. SO WHEN YOU DO SEE A GARAGE AT, IN A TOWN HOME ACROSS THE STREET, IT'S, IT'S FACING A GARAGE, UH, WHEN YOU SEE THE FRONT EDGE OF A TOWN HOME, IT'S EITHER ON THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE. UH, SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING IN, THEY SEE A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY, AND THEN IT'S TIED TO THOSE OPEN-SPACE CONNECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE SITE. UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR GOALS IN ALL OUR COMMUNITIES IS TO CREATE A PLACE THAT PEOPLE LOVE TO LIVE IN AND CREATE THOSE TOUCH POINTS WITH RESIDENTS. AND, AND THAT'S PART OF THE VISION OF TYING THOSE, THOSE FRONTAGES TOGETHER. SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE REALLY CAN, UH, CALL THIS PLACE A COMMUNITY. YOU GOT THAT ONE ONCE. UM, SO WAS THE GARAGE ON THAT BOTTOM SLIDE IS, ARE THE GARAGES LIKE, UM, DARK BROWN TO THE RIGHT OF THE CARS RIGHT THERE AND THAT THE GARAGE I'M NOT, YES. AND IN THE CENTERS THAT, AND THEN A NEW BUILDING, UH, WHICH WOULD HAVE CALLED A BUSINESS FROM THE COWORKING SPACE WITH A LARGE CONFERENCE ROOM, SOME SMALL, UM, ALMOST FUN STYLE SPACES THAT SOMEONE NEEDED TO TAKE A CALL, SOME BANQUETTE SEATING, AS WELL AS A FITNESS CENTER PACKAGE WALKERS AND THE MAIL ROOM. SO IS THE, IS THIS THE SAME? DOES THIS, UH, THE SAME FORMAT WHERE THERE ARE ALSO COMMUNITY EVENTS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE FOR THOSE RESIDENT? DEFINITELY IN ACTUALLY BEHIND THIS BUILDING TARDY TELFAIR GEAR, WHETHER IT'S AN OUTDOOR POOL AREA, UM, THAT IN ALL OF THE MANY AREAS, AS WELL AS THE TOWN HOMES THEMSELVES WILL BE ACCESS CONTROL. UH, AND SO IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD RENT OUT THAT SPACE FOR, UM, FOR EVENTS. THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF GRILLING STATIONS, UH, THERE'S A TRIAL, THERE'S A WATER FEATURE, BUT IT'S, UH, IT'S REALLY, UH, AN OUTDOOR SPACE FOR THAT COMMUNITY. WHAT'S YOUR TIMEFRAME BREAKING GROUND. SURE. SO YOU HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S REAL TIME. YEAH. SO, BUT YOU GOT A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON THERE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE FACING ALL THIS STUFF, SO I MEAN, JUST WHAT DO YOU THINK IS SURE. UH, SO I THINK THE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING BUILDING ON SITE IS 20,000 SQUARE FEET. SO WE NEED TO DO THE ASBESTOS REMEDIATION WORK, RETIRED AND DO THAT IN JANUARY DEMOLITION AND FEBRUARY, BEGINNING OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE WORK WITH THE WATER AND SEWER LINES BREAK OUT THE STREETSCAPE SEPARATE SINCE, SEE WHAT I DO THAT AT THE END OF THE PROJECT. UM, AND THEN, SO PRIVATE WORK WOULD LIKELY START CALL IT AT CLOSER TO MAY. UM, AND THEN THIS CONSTRUCTION DURATION, IT'S, THERE'S NO LARGE PARKING STRUCTURE. AND SO ONCE YOU DO THE MOISTURE CONDITIONING AND THE GRADING AND POUR THE FOUNDATION, YOU'RE GOING VERTICAL, I CAN GO FAIRLY FAST. UH, SO CONSTRUCTION DURATION PROBABLY, UH, 14 TO 16 MONTHS FROM MAY SO-CALLED, UH, FINISHING IN 2023. SO YOUR PROJECT BUILD THE ENTIRE BUDGET THE SAME TIME, RIGHT? CORRECT. 85 UNITS AT THE SAME TIME. THE OTHER BUILDING TIME YEAH, IT WOULD BE AMAZING, BUT THERE WOULDN'T BE A LARGE GAP IN BETWEEN. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THE FOUNDATION AND THEN WORK OUR WAY AROUND AS LONG AS YOU ARE. DOESN'T THIS CONCEPT SOMEPLACE ELSE, CURIOSITY, WE HAVE IT. AND THAT'S PART OF THE, UH, THE EXCITEMENT IS IT'S DEFINITELY A NEW PRODUCT TYPE. UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR VISION IS WE THINK THERE'S REAL WILL COMPLIMENT THE OVERALL AREA AND IT'S A UNIQUE OFFERING. UH, THESE ARE LARGER TOWNHOMES AND WE THINK PEOPLE WILL LIVE HERE A LONG TIME. UH, AND SO I THINK IT COMPARED TO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S AROUND THE AREA, I THINK THIS WILL REALLY COMPLIMENT GREAT THIS, THE TEST MARKETS, [02:25:02] UM, FOR WHAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST CAME FROM SCOTTSDALE AND MY AUNT SOLD HER HOME AND, YOU KNOW, WAS IN A PLACE IN SCOTTSDALE AND THE PRICES ARE SO MUCH HIGHER THERE. UH, I KNOW, DOES IT SEEM AFFORDABLE, BUT FOR WHAT IT IS AND CONSIDERING EVERYTHING, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT DEAL. IF YOUR CARD RODS ATTACHED, I MEAN, THAT'S THIS WORD FOOTAGES ANIMAL. IT'S VERY, THERE'S NO CHEAP THING ANYMORE. KEN, CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH JUST ONE MORE TIME, UH, ON THIS MOTION? WELL, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, SO YOU COULD SIMPLY, UH, ALL OF THE WAIVERS ARE ALREADY IN A NUMERATED ORDINANCE. UM, SO YOU CAN SIMPLY APPROVE, UH, THE, UH, REQUEST AS IT'S AS STATED IN THE ORDINANCE. UH, THE ONLY DEVIATION IS WHETHER YOU'RE A FAN OF EXTRA WHITE OR SNOWBOUND, UM, AND THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS BOUND AND WE PROVIDED AN UPDATED ORDINANCE FOR THAT, UH, UH, CONSIDERATION. SO TO CLARIFY, THE UPDATED ORDINANCE HAS SNOWBOUND IN IT. YES, SIR. SO WE DON'T NEED TO, UM, AMEND THE VOTING MASTER PLAN. SO THAT'S ALREADY ACCOMMODATED IN THE YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO COME IN? ANYBODY YOU WANT TO COME IN? NO. THIS IS KNOWING YOU PROBABLY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS SIDE DOWN HERE. POPPY. YOU SO ANY MORE DISCUSSION? NO. DO I HAVE MOTION 13? I SUBMITTED WAS READY TO STAY NOVEMBER PART OF THE ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED. AND YOU MENTIONED THE SNOWBOUND. I DO NEED TO STAY AT STANFORD. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSE CUBE REGULATIONS. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON. WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF ITEMS HERE. I AM 14 [14. Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance for Property Located at 14450 Marsh Lane, Currently Zoned Local Retail (LR), for a Special Use Permit (SUP) to Allow a Day Nursery. Case 1842-SUP/14450 Marsh Lane (Tierra Encantada). ] HEARING, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDERATION ON AN ORDINANCE FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 44, 5 0 MARSHLAND CURRENTLY ZONED FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THE SOP TO ALLOW A DAY NURSERY CASE NUMBER 1 8 4 2 SUP 1 4 4 5 0 MARSHLAND TIARA. AND CAN TELL HOW THAT, OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, THE REQUEST, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE EASTERN EDGE OF MARSHALL LANE, UH, 250 FEET NORTH OF SPRING VALLEY ROAD. UM, AND THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, FOR A DAY NURSERY USE. UH, THE APPLICANT IS, UH, TIARA AND CANTATA. UH, IT IS A SPANISH IMMERSION CHILDCARE AND PRESCHOOL. UH, THEY ARE HEADQUARTERED OUT OF MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA. UH, THEY HAVE SIX LOCATIONS. UH, THEY'VE BEEN OPEN SINCE 2013. AND, UH, ALONG WITH THIS ADDISON LOCATION, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING AT EXPANDING TO OTHER PARTS OF TEXAS TO INCLUDE TWO LOCATIONS IN HOUSTON. UH, THE SERVICE THEY PROVIDE IS CHILDCARE, UH, FROM, UH, CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS SIX WEEKS OLD TO SIX YEARS OF AGE, UH, PROVIDING, UM, UH, CARE AND AS WELL AS, UH, PRESCHOOL, UH, PROGRAMMING, UH, THE HISTORY OF THIS SITE. UH, SO WHEN IT WAS FIRST DEVELOPED IN THE EARLY 1990S, IT WAS A, UH, RYAN'S STEAK HOUSE, UH, LOCATION, UH, IN 1995, UH, AN SEP WAS APPROVED BY THE TOWN FOR A VERY SIMILAR USE OF A PRESCHOOL. AND THEN IN 2017, UH, THIS LOCATION, UH, WAS OCCUPIED BY AN ADULT SCHOOL. UH, IT'S BEEN, UH, AND ITS RECENT HISTORY. IT HAS BEEN VACANT. AND SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS, UH, THIS PROPOSED DANISH OR USE FOR JIRA AND CONDADO. UM, THE EXISTING SPACE IS, UH, 10,600 SQUARE FEET OF, UH, INTERIOR FOR AN AREA THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE SPACE FOR 10 CLASSROOMS, AN INDOOR PLAYROOM, A KITCHEN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE SPACE, AND THEN A BREAK ROOM. UH, THERE ARE TWO, UH, PLAYING TO OUTDOOR PLAYGROUND AREAS. UH, SOME OTHER CONDITIONS THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS, UH, THE EXTERIOR TO THE SITE WILL NEED TO BE IMPROVED TO SUPPORT THOSE OUTDOOR [02:30:01] PLAN PLAY AREAS. AND THEN ALSO, UH, THE, UH, PLAN CAPACITY FOR THIS FACILITY IS A 152 STUDENTS. AND SO 27 STAFF MEMBERS. UM, SO, UM, WITH THIS USE, THE TOWN DOES NOT HAVE SPECIFIC PARKING REGULATIONS PRESCRIBED, UH, IN THE TOWN ZONING ORDINANCE. UH, WE FEEL THAT, UH, WITH WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED, UH, 89 PARKING SPACES, WHICH CURRENTLY EXIST ONSITE AT A RATIO OF ONE PER 120 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA, UH, THERE IS AMPLE PARKING FOR THIS USE. UH, THAT ISSUE CAME UP A LITTLE BIT IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DISCUSSION STAFF LOOKED AT OTHER SIMILAR FACILITIES, SUCH AS THE, UH, SPANISH, UH, SCHOOL HOUSE, UH, SCHOOL. THIS IS, UH, UH, UH, FAR, UM, MORE GRACIOUSLY PARKS THAN WHAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE FOR, UH, A, UH, DAYCARE OR PRESCHOOL USE. SO WE FEEL THAT, UM, THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS ARE VERY APPROPRIATE HERE. UM, WITH THE, UH, PROPOSED USE, UH, THERE WAS, UH, SOME NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE TO COMPLY WITH THE, UM, TOWN'S LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. UM, THERE WERE, UM, AN APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PROVIDE FOR SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, TREE PLANTINGS WITHIN THE PARKING LOT TO SUGAR THAT THERE'S A SUFFICIENT, UH, TREE CANOPY, UH, IN THAT PARKING AREA. AND THEN ALSO NEW SAAB HAS BEEN ADDED WITH PLAYGROUND AREAS, WHICH IS INCREASING THE LANDSCAPE AREA ON THE SITE, ALONG THE NORTHERN, UH, FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY. SO THE COMMON BOUNDARY WITH THE ADJACENT MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO BE REPLACING, UH, THE, UH, EXISTING RED TIP FATEMIA, WHICH IS A TOXIC PLANTING, UH, WITH SOMETHING THAT IS MORE KID-FRIENDLY. SO SOME OF REALLY A SHRUBS, UM, THE EXTERIOR APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING IS LARGELY GOING TO REMAIN UNCHANGED. THE APPLICANT WILL BE MAKING SOME MINOR IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS. THEY'LL BE SWAPPING OUT THE LIGHTING THAT'S CURRENTLY ATTACHED TO THE FACADE. AND THEN ALSO, UM, WHICH WAS A POINT OF DISCUSSION, UH, WITH THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, UH, THERE'LL BE PROVIDING FOR, UH, PERIMETER FENCING AROUND THE PLAYGROUND AREAS. AT THAT TIME WITH THE COMMISSION DISCUSSION, THEY PROVIDED A FOREFOOT, UH, FENCE AND THE COMMISSION, UM, UH, REQUESTED THAT THEY MODIFY THAT TO PROVIDE FOR A SIX FOOT FENCE. AND SO THAT CONDITION HAS BEEN ACHIEVED WITH THESE CLIENTS BEFORE YOU, UH, STAFF DID, UH, NOTICE JASON PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, SIX NOTICES WERE SENT OUT. UM, WE HAD NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE, UH, FOR THIS REQUEST. UH, THE COMMISSION DID AT THEIR NOVEMBER MEETING RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. I VOTE OF SEVEN ZERO, UH, FIRST CONDITION ADDRESSING THE FENCE ISSUE THAT I JUST, UH, NOTED, UH, REQUIRING A SIX FOOT FENCE. AND THEN STAFF, UH, HAD TWO ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS THAT THE COMMISSION SUPPORTED, UH, FIRST BEING THAT PROOF OF STATE CHILDCARE LICENSING IS ACHIEVED PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A FULL CEO. AND THEN ALSO, UH, THAT THE EXISTING SUP ORDINANCES THAT APPLY TO THE PREVIOUS DAYCARE AT THIS LOCATION WOULD BE REPEALED, UM, UH, ISSUANCE OF A FULL CEO. SO WITH THAT STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL THAT REQUEST WITH THE COMMISSION, WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE JUST NOTED. WE DO HAVE, UH, STAFF FROM TIERRA AND CANTATA, UH, THEIR HEADQUARTERS IN MINNESOTA ON THE ZOOM CALL, AS WELL AS THEIR CONSULTANT TEAM AS WELL. UH, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU WHEN YOU GUYS SEE ANY KIND OF POTENTIAL PROBLEM WITH QUEUING UP ONTO MARSH, LIKE A PICKUP TIME. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS LIKE REGULAR, LIKE EVERYBODY GETS OUT OF THREE BUSINESS, BUT WAS THAT, THAT THEY LOOK INTO THAT? I THINK IT WILL DEPEND ULTIMATELY ON HOW THEY OPERATE AND THEY WILL HAVE TO ADJUST THEIR OPERATIONS TO PREVENT THAT CONDITION. UH, I DON'T THINK WOULD HAVE A, A MARKETABLE BUSINESS IF SOMEONE HAD TO WAIT ON MARSH LANE TO PICK UP THEIR, THEIR JOB. UH, SO, UH, WE DID NOT PRESCRIBE ANY REQUIREMENTS ON THEM OR HAVE THEM DO ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS TO ADDRESS THAT CONDITION. I THINK THERE'S SUFFICIENT SPACE ONSITE BETWEEN THE PARKING AND THE DRIVE AISLE TO MEET THAT DEMAND. BUT IF THERE IS A CONDITION, UH, IN THE FUTURE, UH, THAT COULD, UH, CAUSE A QUEUING ISSUE, CERTAINLY STAFF WOULD WORK TO WITH THE APPLICANT AND MITIGATE THAT, ENSURING THAT THEY HAVE THE APPROPRIATE OPERATIONAL PLANS TO ADDRESS THAT. I THINK THAT ULTIMATELY IS AN OPERATIONAL ISSUE, UH, HEARING THIS CASE. AND I DON'T THINK [02:35:01] IT'S GOOD FOR THEIR BUSINESS IF THEY HAVE THAT CONDITION, BUT WE ARE A BIT DEPENDENT ON THEM TO ENSURE THAT THEY OPERATE TO MITIGATE THAT CONDITION. SHOULD WE JUST PUT SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE INTO THIS THING? I MEAN, I MEAN, NOT OBVIOUSLY NOT GOOD FOR THEIR BUSINESS, NOT GOOD FOR THE OTHER TWO ADJACENT BUSINESSES AS WELL, BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED TO GET INTO THE SEVEN 11. I MEAN, I CAN, I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT FAR FROM THE CORNER OF SPRING VALLEY THERE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE CAN JUST SAY THEY CAN'T CHEMO OUT UNDER THE STREET, OR, I MEAN, I THINK IT WOULDN'T BE INAPPROPRIATE. UH, IT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING PROBABLY MORE, MORE MEASURABLE AND SPECIFIC TO, TO ADDRESS THAT CONDITION. MAYBE, MAYBE IT JUST REQUIRED THEM TO PROVIDE AN ONSITE CUING PLAN. IT WAS LIKE A PATHWAY WHERE EVERYBODY LINES UP ALL IN ALL THE PARENTS WILL FIGURE IT OUT. LIKE THEY GOT TO GO IN AND CIRCLE COMES AROUND A LOT. YOU CAN QUEUE UP 30 CARS ON THEIR OWN PROBLEMS. I THINK WHERE WE COULD PROBABLY DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH DUTCH BROS. WE REQUESTED AN OPERATIONS PLAN PRIOR TO THEM OPENING FOR BUSINESS. IT WAS THAT THE INTENDED. YEAH. AND THEN I'M ASSUMING ALSO THAT BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK, WILL THAT BECOME THE SCHOOLS OVER THERE THEN ALL IN MARCH OR NO. OKAY. YEAH. I KNOW WE WERE CONCERNED. UH, I BELIEVE THIS IS JUST WHEN YOU DROP OFF THE KIDS AND, UH, PICK UP THE KIDS SO NEEDED TO WORRY ABOUT HOW THEY CURIE, BUT BASICALLY THERE WERE 89 IN SPACE. MOST OF THE TIME WILL BE VACANT. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE LITTLE BABY LITTLE KIDS WILL BE DROPPED OFF. SO IT'S A HUGE PARKING SPACE WHEN WE ALREADY BEEN USED, BUT ONLY 27 STEPS MAXIMUM 27 CARS BASICALLY. SO THEY, THEY, I AGREE WITH YOUR CONCERN, JUST HAVE THEM PROVIDE SOME PLAN BEFORE SHE LOOKED AT THEIR COMPETITORS AND THE TYPE OF FOOTPRINT THEY HAVE ON THEIR SIDE AND HOW THEY'RE ORIENTED WITH REGARDS TO DRIVE OUT OF CIRCULATION PARKING. THIS, THIS SITE IS FAR MORE EXPANSIVE, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD PRACTICE WITH THESE TYPES OF USES, UM, USES, UH, DRIVE-THROUGH USES THAT ARE, WE KNOW ARE GOING TO HAVE A REALLY EXCEPTIONAL DEMAND. IT DOESN'T HURT. AND, AND I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT CAN EASILY ACCOMMODATE THAT AND THEY CAN SPEAK TO THAT TOO AS WELL. THE PUBLIC HEARINGS OPEN. ALL RIGHT. UH, LET ME OPEN THIS UP, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS HOBBY HEARING. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? PLEASE DO SO. SO, UH, TOM, YOU CAN ASK THE APPLICANT IS, IS HE OR SHE STILL ON ZOOM? ALL RIGHT, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, THIS CHRISTIAN DENSER IN THE CEO AND FOUNDER OF TYRANNY. TA-DA ALRIGHT, GOOD. TALK TO YOU. AND ANY COUNCIL MEMBER, I WANT TO ASK QUESTION KIRSTEN. THIS IS TOM BROWN EIGHT. I ASSUME YOU HEARD THE CONVERSATION THAT WE JUST HAD. I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM WITH YOU GUYS TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF OPERATIONAL PICK UP AND DROP OFF PLAN. I GUESS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL IT, BUT SOMETHING SHOWING STACKING FOR X NUMBER OF CARS PRESENTED TO STAFF, CORRECT? SURE. AND JUST TO PUT PERSPECTIVE INTO THIS, OUR SITES RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A SITE THAT'S ABOUT TWICE AS BIG AS THIS AND HAS ALMOST 300 KIDS. AND THEN IT HAS SIX PARKING SPOTS, THREE OTHER CENTERS, ALL OF WHICH HAVE UNDER 10 PARKING SPOTS AND SIMILARLY SIZED AS THIS, THIS IS THE MOST PART CAN BE WITH TOGETHER, HAVE FOUR TIMES AS MUCH. AND WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH HUMAN PARENTS. DON'T PULL UP TO PICK UP THEIR KIDS. THEY PARK, UH, THERE ISN'T, WE DON'T LIKE TO BRING CHILDREN OUT. THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE CLASSROOM AND THEN TO ACTUALLY CHECK THE MOM. AND SO THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T MAKE SIT IN THEIR CAR, I GUESS THAT MAKES SENSE. SO THEY HAVE TO PARK COME INSIDE AND THEN COLLECT THEIR CHILDREN AND CHECK THEM OFF. THAT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND. THAT'S PART OF JUST PUT THAT AS PART OF YOUR, AS YOUR, THAT MAKES SENSE, THEN THEY WON'T BE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF SCHOOLS RIGHT THERE. YOU JUST COME, PARENTS COME IN HERE, 150, TWO CHILDREN, PROBABLY 120 DIFFERENT PARENTS. AND EVERY ONE OF THEM WANTS TO COME UP THERE AND DRIVE RIGHT UP TO THE ENTRY DOOR AND BE PARKED RIGHT THERE WHEN THEIR KID COMES OUT AND SAY YOUR YES, GOT IT. AND THEN JUST CAUSE YOU GUYS WITH HOURS. SO HOW WILL WE OPERATE IN TERMS OF PICKUP AND DROP [02:40:01] OFF IS WE'RE OPEN 6:30 AM TO 6:00 PM. AND WHEN PARENTS ENROLL THEIR CHILD, THEY'RE ENROLLING FOR A SLOT ON A DAY FOR THE WHOLE DAY. AND SO IT IS THEIR DISCRETION, HOW MUCH, OR HOW LITTLE THEY DON'T WANT TO USE THAT. SO WE'LL HAVE FAMILIES THAT WILL DROP OFF THEIR KIDS FOR JUST FOUR HOURS OR OTHER FAMILIES THAT NO, MAYBE ARE LIKE NUMBERS OR AN ATTORNEY, OR THEY NEED THE WHOLE ENTIRE TIME. AND SO WE HAVE TYPICALLY PARENT DROP OFF AND PICK UP THE BUSIEST TIMES ARE ABOUT SEVEN TO 9:00 AM AND THEN ABOUT FOUR TO 6:00 PM. BUT IT'S OVER SEVERAL HOURS. AND THE AVERAGE, UH, PICK UP OR DROP OFF TIME IS ABOUT THREE TO FOUR MINUTES. AND SO IT'S PRETTY FAST. AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO ADMIT, THEY GET, YOU KNOW, LIKE A BIG MAN RUSH I'VE EVER OWNED, PICKING UP AT LUNCH BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF LIKE, SO SPREAD OUT OVER TIME. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTION? IF NOT, I HAVE TO ROLL, YOU KNOW, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU HAVE NO WINE, YOU PROBABLY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS SIDE. HIM. I HEAR BY CLOSE, PROBABLY HERE SEVEN I'M SO SORRY. CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING? UM, THERE WAS ONE THING THAT WE HAD REQUESTED THAT WE WERE TOLD TO BRING UP HERE. THERE IS A CURRENT RECOMMENDATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO PLACE A CONDITION THAT WE CANNOT GET THE CEO UNTIL THEY RAN LICENSE. BUT TYPICALLY YOU ACTUALLY CAN'T GET YOUR LICENSE UNTIL YOU HAVE YOUR CEO. BECAUSE PART OF THE LICENSING PROCESS IS LIKE THE DIFFERENT STEPS OF THE FIRE IN THE KITCHEN. AND THE LICENSER TYPICALLY WON'T GIVE YOU A LICENSE UNTIL YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A SAFE BUILDING THAT HAS GOTTEN SEAL. AND SO WE HAD JUST ASKED THAT THAT BE CHANGED SHOULD BE LIKE WITHIN A TIME PERIOD OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF LIKE A CHICKEN OR THE EGG THING AND IT PASSED THE CONDITION AND THEN WE'RE KIND OF GOING, WE CAN'T GET OUR LICENSE BECAUSE WE DON'T EVER SEE YOU, BUT WE CAN'T GET YOUR CEO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE OUR LICENSE. CAN WE JUST SAY THAT KENDRA REVIEW SESSION, THEY CAN'T START BUSINESS OPERATIONS UNTIL THEY HAD THEIR, I THOUGHT I'D RESOLVE THIS ISSUE WITH THEIR STAFF. UM, MY, MY ALTERNATIVE AND HOW WE WOULD TYPICALLY HANDLE THIS IS WE ISSUE A TEMPORARY CEO AND WE PUT A CONDITION THAT ESSENTIALLY SAYS THEY HAVE THE CEO, BUT THEY CAN'T OPERATE YET. UM, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO ISSUE A FINAL CEO THAT'S CLEAN. AND, BUT IF WE WANT TO PREVENT THEM FROM OPERATING IT, IT'S KIND OF, AND I AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, ALLOW THEM TO BRING FURNITURE IN AND THAT KIND OF STUFF AND GET SET UP. IT WAS JUST THE LICENSING. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SEE ALL THAT. AND SOMEONE FROM CHRISTIAN STAFF DID CONFIRM THAT THAT WOULD BE SATISFACTORY. DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU, CHRIS? PERFECT. UH, I KNOW THAT WAS JUST TALKED ABOUT AND HE COULDN'T BE ON HIS CAR. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS, THAT WAS A RE THOSE RESULTS. I THINK IN THE WORDING I WAS ON THE PRESENTATION AND SAW THAT, THAT, SO, OKAY. IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AND THE RESULT, THANK YOU. A QUESTION. DO I HAVE A MOTION? AND SECOND ITEM 14. I SUBMITTED A SECOND THERE OR MID EMOTION. PAUL, WHEN THE SECOND POINT IN FAVOR OF THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR A CONDITION, UM, FOR THE OPERATIONS PLAN, I RETRACT MY, I NEED TO RESTATE MY EMOTION THEN, UM, MOVE APPROVAL OF I'M 14 WITH THE CONDITION OF, UH, IS THIS THE CONDITION WITH A, SO A TRAFFIC OPERATIONS PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A TCO? ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY'S CLEAR. RIGHT. SO I HAD AN AMENDED MOTION AND THEN THE SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 1500 [15. Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance for Property Located at 14854 Montfort Drive, Currently Zoned Planned Development (PD) through Ordinance No. 084-076, for a Special Use Permit (SUP) to Allow a Restaurant with the Sale of Alcoholic Beverage for On-Premises Consumption. Case 1841-SUP/14854 Montfort Drive (TK’s Place).] PUBLIC HEARING PRESENT, DISCUSS IT AND CONSIDER ACTION ON ORDINANCE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 4 8 5 4 MONTEFIORE DRIVE CURRENTLY IS ON THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD THROUGH AUDIENCE NUMBER 0 8 4 0 7 6 FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SOP TO ALLOW RESTAURANT WITH THE SALE AT THE HEART OF THE BEVERAGES FOR ON-PREMISES CONSUMPTION. IT'S NUMBER 180 4, 1 SOP 1 4 8 5, 4 MONTEFIORE DRIVE. HE KS PLACE. THANK YOU, MARY JANE SCHMIDT, DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS AN SVP REQUEST, UH, UH, FOR A RESTAURANT AND FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOL, UH, FOR ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION. UH, THIS SITE IS LOCATED ON THE EASTERN FIRE FRONTAGE OF MONTH FREE DRIVE UNDER THE SOUTHERN LIMIT OF TOWN. UH, IT IS THE FORMER PUBLIC SCHOOL LENS. I'VE [02:45:01] BEEN TO A LOCATION, UH, THE APPLICANT FOR THIS REQUEST, UH, UH, TK AND KARA MATTSON. UH, THEY ARE, UH, RETURNING RESIDENTS TO TEXAS. UH, THE CONCEPT OF THEIR BUSINESS IS REALLY, UH, FOOD AND HOSPITALITY, UH, THAT IS, UH, UH, FUSED WITH, UH, COMEDIC ACTIVITY. SO IN THEIR PAST LIFE, UH, THEY WERE, UH, BOTH, UH, VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMEDY REALM AND THEY CONTINUE TO DO SO. SO, UM, INTRODUCING THAT PASSION, UH, TO THEIR, UH, UH, PASSION FOR OPERATING A RESTAURANT IS REALLY, UH, WHAT YOU HAVE HERE, UH, WITH TEEKAY'S PLACE. UH, SO, UH, BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT DESCRIPTION, JUST VERY BRIEFLY, A LITTLE HISTORY ON THE SITE, UH, HAS A LONG HISTORY OF, UH, BEING USED FOR, UH, RESTAURANT USES, UH, WAS REZONED A PD, UH, AND TWO SCPS WERE GRANTED FOR RESTAURANTS THAT BACK IN 19 FOUR, UH, FROM 84 TO 2014, UM, A VARIETY OF, UH, BUSINESSES OCCUPIED THOSE SPACES. AND THEN IN 2015, UH, THE SAW, UH, THIS PROPERTY BEFORE THEN ONCE AGAIN FOR A NEW SUP TO FACILITATE, UH, UH, SOME IMPROVEMENTS AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF PUBLIC SCHOOL NINE 17. SO WITH THIS REQUEST, UH, TJ AND KARA ARE PROPOSING SOME INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS AND LIMITED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXTERIOR TO FACILITATE THIS NEW RESTAURANT AND COMEDY CONCEPT. SO PROBABLY THE MOST APPARENT THINGS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS FLOOR PLAN IS IT IS A LARGE SPACE. UM, UH, IT'S A SPLIT LEVEL BUILDING, UH, IT ACCOMMODATES, UM, UH, JUST OVER 12,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, FIRST FLOOR, UH, AND THE OUTDOOR PATIO. THOSE WILL REALLY BE YOUR PRIMARY DINING AREAS IN THIS SPACE. UM, THE MOST UNIQUE THING ABOUT THE FIRST FLOOR IS YOU'LL HAVE AN AREA THAT YOU SEE TO THE TOP AND LEFT OF THIS PLAN. UH, IT'S PROGRAMMED FOR LOOSE SEATING. SO, UH, TJ AND KARA APPLYING TO HAVE COMEDY EVENTS IN THIS SPACE. AND SO IT WILL, UH, ACCOMMODATE A DINING AND, UH, COMEDY, UH, CONCEPT, UH, IN THAT SPACE, UH, IN THE BASEMENT LEVEL, UH, THEY'LL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL DINING SPACE, UH, AND THEN ALSO THERE'LL BE ADDING A NEW BAR AREA, UH, AND, UH, IN TOTAL, UH, FOR, UH, THESE TWO SPACES THAT COMPRISES BUILDING IN ADDITION TO THE PATIO, YOU'LL HAVE, UH, DINING ACCOMMODATIONS FOR JUST UNDER 200. YES. UM, SO, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT, IT'S PART OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT THAT INCLUDES BLUE MESA, AS WELL AS, UH, THE OFFICE SPACE, UH, TO THE EAST. UM, UH, BETWEEN THOSE THREE USES YOU, UH, HAVE A PARKING REQUIREMENT, UH, FOR 461, UH, PARKING SPACES. UM, CURRENTLY ONSITE, THERE ARE ONLY 460 SPACES, UM, UH, BASED ON PAST ACTIONS BY THE COUNCIL AND REALLY THE DESIRE TO NOT ELIMINATE LANDSCAPING, THE, PROVIDE ANOTHER PARKING SPACE. WE RECOMMEND THAT THAT PARKING RATIO BE MAINTAINED, UM, WITH THIS SITE. AND WITH THIS DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMISSION, UM, LANDSCAPE COMPLIANCE WAS, UH, SOMETHING THAT, UH, UH, THERE IS A GOOD AMOUNT OF CONSIDERATION, UH, COMMITTED TOWARDS, UM, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE MONFORT DRAG FRONTAGE FOR BOTH THIS SITE AND BLUE MESA, YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT IS, IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU SEE IN ADDISON CORRIDORS, YOU SEE STREET TREES, UH, YOU SEE LANDSCAPE WITHIN THE PARKING AREAS. YOU SEE, UM, UH, NICE BASE LANDSCAPING AROUND THE FACADES, BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE, YOU HAVE SOME PARKING AREAS THAT HAVE REALLY LIMITED OR NO LANDSCAPE COVERAGE. SO THAT THE DISCUSSION WITH THE COMBINATION WAS WHETHER THIS REQUEST SHOULD TRIGGER THE NEED TO PROVIDE MORE LANDSCAPING IN THOSE VACANT PARKING AREAS TO DEEPER INTO THE SITE. UM, ULTIMATELY, UH, STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDED TO THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMISSION AGREED THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THOSE AREAS EVENTUALLY GET TREATED. BUT, UH, THE NEXUS FOR DOING THAT MAY NOT BE BEST SUITED BY THIS, UH, THOSE AREAS THAT DO NEED LANDSCAPING TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE REALLY TWO TO 300 FEET AWAY FROM THIS BUSINESS. SO, UH, HAVING THEM INSTALL IRRIGATION, A PAID AREA, AND ELIMINATING PARKING AND BRINGING IT FURTHER OUT OF COMPLIANCE MAY NOT BE BEST IF THERE A LARGER REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S PROBABLY A, A BETTER TRIGGER FOR ADDRESSING THAT [02:50:01] ISSUE. UM, IS THIS SPACE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I'M LOOKING AT THAT OVERHEAD MAP, ARIEL, IS THIS THE CUPBOARD OR THE STRUGGLE? NO, IT WAS CLOSER. IT'S REALLY, DO YOU SEE WHERE MY MOUSE IS? IT'S, UH, THE AREA TO THE NORTHEAST OF BLUE MESA. IT'S A PARKING LOT WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WAY OF ESCAPE. ISN'T THERE PARKING LOT. UH, SO THERE IS SOME BELOW GRADE PARKING IN THAT AREA. THAT'S WHAT I WAS CALLING THE STRUCTURE. SO IT IS THAT LOCATION, WHICH I SAID, OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, SO, UH, WITH THE BUILDING, UH, THEY'VE PROPOSED LIMITED IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE FACADE. REALLY, THE ONLY CHANGE THAT YOU'LL SEE IS THE SIGNAGE FOR TJ PLACE. UH, STAFF DID, UH, PROVIDE NOTICE IN ACCORDANCE WITH TOWN AND STATE REQUIREMENTS. 13 NOTICES WERE SENT, UM, WITH THIS ITEM. UM, WE HAD A BIT OF A STAFF VIEW, UH, WITH THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION AND THAT, UH, WE HAD SOME PROCEDURAL ISSUES DURING THE NOVEMBER MEETING. SO WE DID HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IN DECEMBER ON DECEMBER 7TH TO READ HERE THIS ITEM AND BOTH MEETINGS THAT COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO, UM, UH, ACCEPTING STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS, UH, THE TECHNICAL CONDITION ADDRESSING, UH, NO TERMS OR GRAPHIC, THE PATIENTS, UH, RELATED ALCOHOL BEVERAGES AND EXTERIOR SIGNAGE. AND THEN ALSO REPEALING THE SUP THAT WAS GRANTED FOR PUBLIC SCHOOL NINE 17, SINCE THIS IS APPROVED, UH, THAT WOULD NO LONGER BE NECESSARY. SO WAS THAT'S THAT DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THEIR REQUEST WITH THOSE CONDITIONS. UH, TJ AND KAREN MATTSON ARE JOINING US TONIGHT, AND I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE THEM SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE YOU'LL GET THE, YOU'LL GET TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT OF THE PLAN ASKS FOR THEIR OPENING, NOT HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. SO ACCURATE 201 FOR 290. WHAT'S THE OCCUPANCY LOAD, I GUESS, THAT JUST BASED ON SCHOOL, CAUSE YOU HAVE THAT FLEX SPACE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOME THERE'S, WHATEVER THAT IS. IT IS RIGHT. THEY'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, YOU OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD. I DON'T KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. UM, I AM EAGER TO HEAR, UM, FROM THE APPLICANTS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE HILARIOUS. UM, ONE QUESTION IS, SO IS THE OVERALL FEEL, UH, MORE RESTAURANT OR MORE CLUB OR COMEDY CLUB? I MEAN, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE, UM, IS IT MORE OF A, JUST A RESTAURANT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF COMEDY OR HOW TO WHAT'S THE FUCKING ARE THERE? SO STAFF DID HAVE SOME, UH, KIND OF SIRENS THAT WE INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS CASE TO TRY TO ENSURE THAT THAT RESTAURANT WAS, WAS REALLY THE, THE MAIN EVENT, UH, FOR THIS CASE, UH, THE COMMISSION, UH, AND, AND, AND STAFF, UH, WE ULTIMATELY AGREE WITH THEIR ACTION. UM, IT, IT MADE SENSE BECAUSE THE APPLICANTS WITH THEIR PLANS AND, UH, REALLY WITH THEIR FEEDBACK, THEY SHARED IN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE COMMISSION THAT THEY ARE LEADING WITH THE RESTAURANTS, HOW MANY, THE SECONDARY, THEY WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE EVENTS. IT'S, IT'S PART OF THEIR BUSINESS, BUT THEY ARE HERE TO HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL RESTAURANT HERE IN ADDISON, AND THEY CAN SPEAK TO THAT. OF COURSE. ALL RIGHT. WHY NOT? LET ME, UH, OPEN UP THE POVERTY HEARING. HE ADVISED THE APPLICANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS. THEN WHEN YOU HAVE A QUESTION, JUST ASK LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS LISTED POVERTY HEARING AS WELL. IF ANYONE IN PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THEIR SIDE, HIM, PLEASE DO SO. SO, UH, UH, HE INVITED TK LITTLE CARA OVER HERE IN A, SAY A FEW WORDS AS TO SOME QUESTIONS. HELLO, MR. MAYOR, MY NAME IS KARA WITH A K I'M MARRIED TO THIS, HAD A DRINK, A WATER. GIVE HIM YOUR NAME. I'M FROM TEXAS AND IN CALIFORNIA, A LOT OF SHOWS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT VENUES IN LOS ANGELES. AND, UM, I'M ALSO, I WAS OUT FOR A SHOW ON THE FOOD NETWORK AND COMBINED PASSIONS, HOSPITALITY THE COMMUNITY. [02:55:01] SO AND RESTAURANT. SO IF YOU WANT TO COMMIT AN E IT'S NOT GONNA BOTHER YOU. YOU'RE NOT HEAR THE ECONOMY SO TRYING TO JUST RELAX. AND YOU'RE TALKING YOU GUYS COME IN AND EAT AND DRINK AND NEVER BE BOTHERED BY WHAT'S GOING ON. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO LET'S SAY YOU'RE HAVING A BUSINESS DINNER, LUNCH, OR WHATEVER IT IS WE'RE GOING FOR LUNCHES. GRANDMA YOU MIGHT SAY AND IT'S JUST GENERALLY JOKEY JOKEY. SO THERE'S THIS ATMOSPHERE WHERE HOSPITALITY AND INTIMACY AND COMMUNITY. UM, SOMEBODY WANTED SOME FRESH CRAFT AS A GENERAL FRESH, YEAH. CALIFORNIA FOR A LONG TIME, WE DECIDED TO COME HOME AND DO SOMETHING SPECIAL HERE. SO CUSTOMER SERVICE, CUSTOMER SERVICE. CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE ELEVATED FOOD? SO IS IT ELEVATED A PIE OR ARE YOU, DO YOU MEAN IT'S ELEVATED BECAUSE IT'S TASTES BETTER WITH THE ELEVATION, CORRECT? UM, SO IN IT'S A RESTAURANT, WE ALL HAVE DESIGNATIONS EVENTS. SO YEAH. I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU FOR LUNCH. SO YOU GUYS COMING FROM LUNCH AND COME IN FOR LUNCH AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THE RESTAURANT SIDE. CAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT. YEAH, IT'S A PASSION. THAT'S JUST, NOT JUST A CONCEPT LIKE THIS. I MEAN, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THIS. YEAH. WE DEVELOPED IT THROUGH DOING STANDUP AND THEN ALSO JUST REALLY BEING IN THE FRONT WITH CUSTOMERS AND SAYING YEAH. YOU NEVER, YOU NEVER HAVE TO GO TO A SHOW EITHER. WE WANT YOU TO KIND OF WANT TO, WE WOULD LIKE TO SORT OF HAVE SOME OF THAT LOST, I GUESS HOUSTON'S LUNCH KERNEL. THAT WAS PRETTY POWERFUL. IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL. SO WE LIKE TO BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A HUGE AREA. PEOPLE ARE HEADING UP THE LUNCHES, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD THING AS WELL. [03:00:02] SO YOU ALL COME MEETING THE AREA WITH THE DIALING? IS IT IN THE BASEMENT? NO, NO, NO. IT'S OFF TO THE SIDE. IT'S ONLY A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE THOUGH IS THE SAME. UH, THERE'S ACTUAL DOWNSTAIRS. OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE ON THIS? POSSIBLE. LET'S SAY YOU GUYS. NO THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE HAS HAD A QUESTION? NOPE. THEY DIDN'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO WISH TO SPEAK ON THAT SIDE OF HIM AGAIN. NOPE. ALL RIGHT. I HEAR BY POST PUBLIC HEARING, DO I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND MOVED TO APPROVE ITEM 15. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. CONGRATULATIONS. [16. Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Granting a Meritorious Exception to Chapter 62 of the Code of Ordinances for Galaxy FBO, Located at 15601 Addison Road, in Order to Exceed the Total Effective Area and the Maximum Allowable Logo Height for an Attached Sign. Case MR2021-007/Galaxy FBO. ] I AM 16 PRESENTED, DISCUSSING, CONSIDERED DIRECTIONALITY WHOLENESS TOWARDS THE EXCEPTION TO CHAPTER 62 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR GALAXY FBO LOCATED AT A 1 5 6 0 1 EDISON ROAD IN ORDER TO EXCEED THE TOTAL EFFECTIVE AREA AND THE MAXIMUM LAW OF A LOGO HEIGHT FOR THE ATTACHED SON CASE NUMBER ARE 2 0 2 1 DASH 0 0 7 GAD AT C F P O N ONE MOMENT. I'M PULLING UP THE PRESENTATION THANK YOU, MARY AND CITY COUNCIL, KEN SCHMIDT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS FOR A MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION FOR AN ATTACHED SIGN AT GALAXY EO SITE, WHICH IS LOCATED AT THE WESTERN FRONTAGE OF ADDISON ROAD IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF ADDISON CIRCLE PARK. UM, SO WOULD THIS PROPOSE SIGNAGE? UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING ONE ATTACHED WALL SIGN, UH, ON THE EASTERN FACADE, UH, AT THE PRIMARY ENTRY, UH, TO THE PROJECT. UH, THE LOCATION OF THAT SIGN IS JUST OVER 140 FEET FROM ADDISON ROAD. SO IT'S A SETBACK, UH, A FAIR DISTANCE. AND, UH, IT'S A CRITICAL ELEMENT OF THEIR SIGNAGE GIVEN THAT IT'S THE PRIMARY ENTRY, UH, TO THE OFFICE COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT. UM, SO, UM, WITH THIS, UH, THE TOWN, UH, HAS, UH, UH, REQUIREMENTS, UH, THAT ARE SPECIFIED IN THE TOWN OF SIMON ORDINANCE, UM, ADDRESSING THINGS SUCH AS LETTER AND LOGO HEIGHT, AND THEN ALSO, UH, SIGN EFFECTIVE AREA. SO, UH, AS YOU WERE CALLED, UH, SIGN EFFECTIVE AREA IS, UH, DEFINED BY, UH, DRAWING A BOX AROUND THE FULL EXTENT OF THE SIGN AND THE AREA THAT COMPRISES THAT BOX IS THE EFFECTIVE AREA. UH, THE TOWN LIMITS, UH, AFFECTIVE AREA, UH, TO A 100 SQUARE FEET, A NINE WITH, UM, UM, THE LOGO AND LETTER HEIGHT FOR THIS PROJECT. UH, THE TOWN DOES REGULATE, UH, THOSE CONSIDERATIONS BASED ON THE DISTANCE, UH, FROM THE STREET THAT IT FRONTS ON, UH, WITH THIS PARTICULAR SIGN LOCATION. UH, THE, UH, LETTER HEIGHT IS LIMITED, UH, LOGO HEIGHT IS LIMITED TO 24 INCHES, BUT THERE IS, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND A CERTAIN NUMBER OF LETTERS THAT COMPRISE AND SIGN OR LOGOS THAT ARE PART OF THE SIGN TO 30 INCHES. UM, SO WITH THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT NEEDS CONSIDERATION FOR A MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION FOR A FIRST EFFECTIVE AREA, UH, AT, UH, 102.1, ONE SQUARE FEET. THEY'RE JUST OVER TWO SQUARE FEET AND THE TOWNS REQUIREMENTS. AND THEN ALSO, UH, THE APPLICANT REQUEST CONSIDERATION, UH, FOR THE LOGO HEIGHT, UM, AT, UH, THREE [03:05:01] FEET, 10 INCHES, IT EXCEEDS THE 30 INCH MAX BY 16 INCHES. UM, SO THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE RECENT EXCEPTION YOU CONSIDER IT FOR OUR OWN FACILITY. UM, THE, UH, KEY PART OF THAT WAS THE LOGO, UH, WHEN YOU STARTED GETTING INTO LOGOS, UM, IT, IT REALLY IMPACTS THE SCALE OF, UH, NOT ONLY THE WHOLE SIGN, BUT THE LOGO AND THE LETTERING. SO IF YOU REQUIRE A LOGO TO BE HAVING THE SAME HEIGHT OF THE LETTERING, IT THEN THROWS OFF THE SCALE AND THE PROPORTION OF THEIR BRANDING, WHICH THEN MAKES, UH, SIGNAGE CHALLENGING. AND IT REALLY REQUIRES THE SIGN TO BE MUCH SMALLER THAN, THAN REALLY WHAT IT CAN BE EFFECTIVE AS TO, TO COMMUNICATE AND BE THE FRONT DOOR FOR THIS PROJECT. AND GIVEN HOW PROMINENT THIS IS ON ADDISON ROAD AND HOW CRITICAL OF A COMPONENT IS TO ADDISON AIRPORT. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT IT'S A, IT'S A QUALITY FRONT DOOR TO THIS PROJECT. UM, SO AS YOU'RE AWARE OF THE MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION CRITERIA ALLOWS CONSIDERATION FOR, UH, EXCEPTIONS TO THE TOWN'S SIGN CRITERIA WHERE THERE'S A HARDSHIP OR WHERE IT'S CONSIDERED TO BE ART, LIKE A MURAL IN THIS CASE, UH, TOWN STAFF AGREES WITH THE APPLICANT'S CONTENTION THAT HARDSHIP WOULD BE CREATED, UH, BECAUSE, UH, APPLYING THE, UM, EFFECTIVE AREA REQUIREMENT, THEN THE LOGO HEIGHT REQUIREMENT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE A, UM, A SIGN THAT IS OUT OF PROPORTION AND OUT OF SCALE WITH THE, UH, FACADE THAT ENGAGES AT US IN THE ROAD. UH, SO WITH THAT STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL THEIR REQUESTS. UH, THERE IS, UH, REPRESENTATION, UH, FOR THE PROJECT, UH, FROM THE SIGN CONTRACTOR THAT SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION ON BEHALF OF GALAXY FBO. UM, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S ALL TRIGGERED BY THE LOGO. IF THEY, THIS LOGO ON THE SITE, YOU KNOW, THERE WON'T BE NO PROBLEM AT ALL. ALSO LOOKING LARGER THAN LETTER BLADDER SIZE, BUT SINCE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN DESIGN. SO I SEE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS. I WAS GONNA SAY, WELL, I LOOKED AT IT AND I'M HAPPY. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, BECAUSE IN REALITY, THEY GOT A BUNCH OF OTHER BUILDINGS OVER THERE THAT ARE SET BACK FURTHER WOULD BE PUT ON, BUT SOMETHING'S ON EVERYTHING. SO I'M HAPPY WITH THAT. I THINK IT'S CLASSY. I THINK IT GOES WITH THE, I MEAN, IT'S NOT TOO BIG FOR THE SIZE OF THAT, UM, STRUCTURES THAT ALL READ AS ONE, SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. IS THIS, DO WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT THIS IS THE ONLY SIGNAGE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ON FACING? UH, I BELIEVE THEY'LL HAVE OTHER MINOR SIGNAGE, BUT THIS IS THE, THIS IS REALLY THE, THE PRIMARY, UM, UH, SIGNAGE THAT IS, UH, UH, REFLECTING, UM, THE POINT OF ENTRY FOR THE PROJECTS. AND THEY ARE PERMITTED TO HAVE OTHER SIGNAGE THAT SOME OF IT CAN BE MORE DIRECTIONAL IN NATURE, BUT ANYTHING THAT THEY DO SUBMIT, AND THEY HAVE, UH, A FULL, UH, SUBMITTAL PACKAGE FOR THIS PROJECT. UM, OUTSIDE OF THIS CONSIDERATION, THEY'D HAVE TO MEET TOWN CODE. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ANOTHER SIGN THAT THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE A SIGNED PACKAGE, UM, THAT IS, UH, UNDER REVIEW BY THE TOWN. AND THIS IS THE ONLY AREA WHERE THEY ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT, ALL THE OTHER SIGNAGE. OKAY. THEN THE OTHER THING IS, UM, ALL THESE VISUALS THAT WE'RE SEEING THESE CONCEPTS, ARE THIS THE COLOR SCHEMES OR, OR DO WE KNOW? I MEAN, THIS SEEMS VERY SUBTLE WITH THIS COLOR SCHEME MAKES IT LOOK EVEN SMALLER THAN MAYBE THE MEASUREMENTS. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF, IF I'M LOOKING AT WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, OR IF THIS IS SOME CONCEPT, WHERE ARE YOU SPEAKING MORE TO THE BUILDING FACADES OR TO THE ACTUAL SIGN? OH GOSH. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PRESENTATION, WE'RE I SEE THE SIGNAGE ON VARIOUS VARIOUS SLIDES. UM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COLOR OF THE SIGN. YES, SIR. SO THIS IS COMING FROM THEIR PERMIT APPLICATION. SO THEY WOULD HAVE WITH REGARDS TO COLORING AND APPEARANCE, THEY HAVE TO MEET ALL THAT. IS IT? THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE. UH, SO, UH, DAVID ASH, WHO IS THE, UH, UH, CONTRACTOR, UH, ACCOUNTING FOR THE DESIGN AND HE'S RAISING HIS HAND. SO IT I HAVE A QUESTION. DO YOU HAVE ONE, CAN YOU, UM, WELL, I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO THE FINISH. I MEAN, LOOK, THE PEOPLE THAT [03:10:01] ARE, HAVE REALLY CHOSEN A FINISH THAT IS HIGH-END, UH, WE'RE AN ARCHITECTURAL SIGNAGE COMPANY AND THESE LETTERS ARE LIKE A STAINLESS STEEL HALO THAT THEY'RE VERY RICH AND ELEGANT. IT'S NINE. IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A COMMERCIAL SIGN SHOP. IT REALLY ISN'T A COMMERCIAL SIGN. IT REALLY WILL LOOK FANTASTIC. AND ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT WITH THE HANDLE EFFECT. SO IT, IT REALLY SHOWS THAT AS LIKE AN EXECUTIVE TERMINAL OR AN AIRPORT, IT'S JUST, IT'S VERY NICELY APPOINTED. AND AS FAR AS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, IF IT WASN'T FOR THE DESCENDER ON THE Y IT WOULD'VE BEEN UNDER A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET. YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE QUESTION I HAD, MR. KENNY, CAN YOU TELL US AGAIN ABOUT THE, UH, CDP THAT WE ACCEPTION THAT WE MADE THAT WAS ON THE, UH, UH, NOT ON THE LAND SIDE, IS THAT CORRECT FOR THE BUILDING THAT WE MADE THE EXCEPTION FOR? SO IT WAS DEFINITELY ORIENTED TOWARDS THE STREET. SO THE, YES. UM, IT'S BEEN THE TOWN'S PRACTICE, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS NOT IN THE ORDINANCE, ANYTHING ON THE AIRFIELD SIDE, WE HAVE NOT REQUIRED SIGNED PERMITS. I, IT WAS ALREADY PRESENTED THAT ON HER, UH, WHERE THAT LIMITERS OF GALAXY FBO. AND, UM, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING THE TIME TO EVEN REVIEW THIS. UM, WE DEFINITELY TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION HOW BEAUTIFUL ADDISON IS AND, AND BEING SO CLOSE TO THE, TO THE PARK. AND WE, WE WANTED TO HAVE A VERY NICE SIGN TO RELAY, UM, TOMORROW THE MAIN OFFICE BUILDING OF OUR LARGE FACILITY, ALSO FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, UH, FOR IDENTIFICATION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND STUFF. UM, THE SIGN ITSELF HAS MADE OUR THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF METAL. UM, LIKE ERIC, WHO'S ON THE CALL AS WELL AS BAY IS BEING A SENIOR DESIGNER SIGNAGE DESIGNER FOR OVER 20 YEARS, UM, AROUND THE WORLD. AND, UM, SO A LOT OF CAMERAS PUT INTO MAKING THIS DESIGNING REALLY AFFECT OUR BRANDING, UM, AND THE OVERALL AESTHETIC OF OUR FACILITY. SO, COREY, UH, YOUR NAME IS COREY MEREDITH, RIGHT? CORRECT. JUST, JUST FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTION? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS SORT OF MOVE? SO I HAVE A MOTION MADE BY TOM BRON SECOND BY MULLIN WATSON ON YOUR FAVOR, BCI. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK [17. Present and Discuss the Operations and Financial Reconciliation for Addison Oktoberfest 2021. ] ITEM. 17 PRESENTED, DISCUSS OPERATIONS AND FINANCIAL RECORDS OF THE NATION FOR AS OCTOBER 1ST, 2021. JASMINE OKAY, GOOD EVENING. BARREN COUNSEL, JASMINE LEE DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL EVENT. ALL RIGHT. TAKE TWO. AND, UH, I AM HERE THIS EVENING WITH ASHLEY, RIGHT? I DON'T EVEN COUNTING THE MANAGER, UM, TO DO A RECONCILIATION RECAP AND REVIEW OF ADDISON, OCTOBER FEST, 2021. UH, THIS YEAR'S EVENT TOOK PLACE ON SEPTEMBER 16TH THROUGH 19TH AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK. WE HAD SEVERAL NEW THINGS ADDED TO THE EVENT OR ADJUSTED AT THE EVENT. SO, AND DUE TO THE PANDEMIC AND MAKING ADJUSTMENTS AND OTHERS JUST ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE WERE EXCITED [03:15:01] TO BRING IT TO THE FESTIVAL, UH, OR THE PARTY HALL, OUR MAIN TENT. AND AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE DID MAKE THAT AN OPEN AIR TENT. THIS YEAR, WE WERE MOVED TO THE WALLS. WE CHANGED THE LOCATION OF THE STAGE AND JUST REALLY OPENED THAT SPACE UP THAT HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON THE OVERALL FLOW OF THE FESTIVAL. AND I FELT LIKE IT REALLY HELPED PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE GROUNDS CONNECT WITH WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITHIN THE MAIN TENT AND JUST KEPT PEOPLE MOVING AROUND. SO WE WERE VERY PLEASED WITH THE OUTCOME OF THAT. WE ALSO INTRODUCED MOBILE ORDERING WITH OUR CONCESSIONAIRES. THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAD INTRODUCED EARLIER IN THE YEAR AT DAYS, ADDISON AND COMMUNE TOWN. AND WE EXTENDED THAT INTO ADDISON, OCTOBER FEST AS WELL. WE ADDED A NEW ENTERTAINMENT AREA THAT INCLUDED A THIRD MUSIC STAGE INSIDE CONFERENCE CENTER IN AN AREA THAT WE CALL IT, THE CLIENT HOME THAT FEATURED LIVE MUSIC AND A TABLE SERVICE AREA WHERE PEOPLE COULD HAVE A SEAT MUCH LIKE GO INTO A BAR AND HAVE THEIR DRINKS AND FOOD ORDERS BROUGHT TO THEM WHILE THEY ENJOYED SINGER SONGWRITERS AND OTHER SMALLER TYPES OF ENTERTAINMENT GROUPS. WE ALSO ADDED CHILDREN'S ACTIVITIES TO OCTOBER FEST WITH THE KINDERS OUT, WHICH IS THE KIDS TENT IN GERMAN. AND THAT FEATURED A VARIETY OF FREE CRAFT ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE FESTIVAL FOR BOTH KIDS AND THE KIDS AT HEART. I'LL SAY WE HAD PROBABLY MORE ADULTS IN THE KINDERS OUT DOING ACTIVITIES THAN WE DID CHILDREN ON PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY. AND THEN FINALLY WE EXPANDED THE AMOUNTS OF SEATING EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT THE VENUE. WE ADDED ADDITIONAL TABLE SEATING AND ALL OF THE OPEN SPACES TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE IN SITTING DOWN AND EATING WHILE DISTANCING FROM THE CROWD. ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT THE TOWN GETS FROM THESE FESTIVALS IS THE BRANDING AND RECOGNITION, BOTH FROM THOSE WHO ATTEND THE FESTIVAL, BUT ALSO FROM THOSE WHO JUST SEE OUR ADVERTISING AND VARIOUS AVENUES. AND IT HELPS THEM HAVE A POSITIVE CONNECTION WITH THE CONCEPT OF ADDISON AS A WHOLE, AS SUCH. I LIKE TO GO OVER THE ADVERTISING AND THE IMPACT THAT IT HAD, OUR PAID ADVERTISING INCLUDED DIGITAL ADS THAT YOU MIGHT SEE WHILE YOU'RE JUST ON VARIOUS WEBSITES ON THE INTERNET, AS WELL AS SOCIAL MEDIA, OUTDOOR ADVERTISING, INCLUDING BILLBOARDS, RADIO, AND TELEVISION SPOTS. WE ENDED UP WITH, UH, OVER 13 MILLION IMPRESSIONS FROM OUR PAID ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN THAT IS JUST UNDER A HALF A CENT PAID JUST OVER A HALF A CENT PAID FOR EACH IMPRESSION THAT WE RECEIVED. WE ALSO PARTNER WITH VARIOUS MEDIA OUTLETS FOR IN-KIND ADVERTISING. WE'VE PARTNERED WITH IHEARTRADIO AND SEVERAL OF THEIR STATIONS, AS WELL AS SPECTRUM OR THEIR CABLE, UM, CONNECTIONS AND THEIR PEOPLE NETWORK AND CBS, OR BOTH CHANNEL 11 AND CHANNEL 21. AND THE PARTNERSHIP THERE. AND ADDITIONALLY, OUR PUBLIC RELATIONS FIRM GETS US A VARIETY OF MEDIA RECOGNITION AND IMPRESSIONS THROUGH ARTICLES, ONLINE COVERAGE, INFLUENCERS, AND OTHER WEBSITES, AS WELL AS INTERVIEWS WITH RADIO AND TELEVISION COMPANIES. SO OVERALL THROUGH OUR END TIME AND PR EFFORTS, WE WERE ABLE TO GET JUST UNDER 600 MILLION IMPRESSIONS. WE THIS YEAR WITH ALL OF OUR FESTIVALS EXTENDED THE HOTEL PACKAGE PROGRAM, SO THAT HOTELS DID NOT HAVE TO OFFER A SPECIAL RATE IN ORDER TO BENEFIT FROM THE HOTEL PACKAGES THAT WE PROMOTE. PEOPLE COULD BOOK A HOTEL ROOM AT ANY HOTEL AND ADDISON AND BE ABLE TO OBTAIN A VOUCHER TO GET THE PACKAGE, WHICH INCLUDED TWO ADULT ADMISSION TICKETS TO COMMEMORATIVE STEINS WITH BEER VOUCHERS, AS WELL AS A SOUVENIR HAT. AND THIS YEAR WE HAD 443 PACKAGES FOR DEAN, WHICH IS 25% MORE THAN WHAT WAS REDEEMED IN 2019 AND IS ACTUALLY MORE HOTEL PACKAGES THAN HAS BEEN REDEEMED IN ANY YEAR SINCE 2013. AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU ACTUALLY, CAN YOU MEAN THERE AND COUNSEL ACTUALLY GO RIGHT IN HERE. SO FIRST OF ALL, GO OVER OUR SALES REVENUE, WHICH INCLUDES THE ADMISSION TICKETS THAT WE SOLD BOTH ONLINE AND PHYSICALLY IN PERSON AT THE FRONT GATE. ALSO, THE TICKETS THAT WE SOLD, UM, TO PATRONS WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BEER GAMES, THE TOWNHOUSE AND MERCHANDISE BOOTH, AND THEN THE TOWN'S COMMISSION FOR OUR PORTION OF OUR, OF THE VENDOR SALES, GIVING US A TOTAL OF FOUR, 14,000 IN OUR SALES AND COMMISSION REVENUE. ADDITIONALLY, WE RECEIVED $92,000 FROM OUR SPONSORS, 15,000 FROM VENDOR FEES AND RENTALS AND APPROXIMATELY $3,000 AND JUST MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS GIVING US JUST UNDER 110,000 AND OUR ADDITIONAL REVENUE. SO IN TOTAL, YOU CAN SEE AS OUR SALES AND [03:20:01] COMMISSION REVENUE, SPONSORSHIPS, VENDOR FEES, MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS, IT WAS JUST OVER 520,000 FOR OUR ROUNDING. AND HERE WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU A FOUR YEAR COMPARISON OF OUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE SALES. AND PLEASE KEEP IN MIND IN 2017 AND 18, THOSE ARE THE GRAY BARS. THAT'S WHEN WE SOLD TASTY BUCKS TICKET TENTS. AND THEN IN 2019 AND 2021, THE ORANGE BARS, THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED USING THE POINT OF SALE SYSTEM FOR OUR VENDORS. SO THERE IS A BIT OF A VARIANCE, UM, BUT THE LARGEST VARIANCE YOU SEE IS IN 2018, OF COURSE THAT'S WHEN SATURDAY WAS CANCELED. WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT YEAR, RIGHT. UM, BUT THE TEAL DOTTED LINE, THAT'S ACTUALLY OUR TOTAL ATTENDANCE FOR THE YEAR. SO YOU CAN SEE IT AS IT IS PRETTY, A PRETTY LARGE VARIANCE FROM 2018 TO 2021 ON DO OUR EXPENSES. UM, IF YOU START FROM THE TOP AND YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN, YOU CAN SEE OUR LARGEST INTERIOR TO EXPENSES TO THE SMALLEST LARGEST ARE PRETTY TYPICAL BRAND CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, FORCE PAYROLL, UH, TOTAL EXPENDITURES JUST UNDER 770,000. SO YOU CAN SEE OUR TOTAL REVENUE AND OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES DID PRODUCE A LOSS OF 244,000. AND THIS IS JUST A FOUR-YEAR COMPARISON OF OUR REVENUES EXPENDITURES AND OUR LOSSES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 2017, WHERE THERE WAS A VERY SMALL PROFIT. BUT AGAIN, WE DID SELL TASTY BUCKS THAT YEAR. AND THEN IN 2018, YOU SEE A LARGE LOSS, BUT THAT IS THE YEAR THAT WE CANCELED SATURDAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME BEFORE I TURN IT BACK OVER TO JASMINE AT EACH ONE OF OUR EVENTS, WE DO SURVEYS THAT OUR ATTENDEES, AND WE USE THAT TO GAUGE HOW THEY'RE LEARNING ABOUT OUR EVENTS, WHATEVER THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ATTENDING AND WHAT IS IT THAT ATTRACTS THEM TO OUR EVENTS AND UTILIZE THAT IN FUTURE PLANNING. I WANTED TO SHARE A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE, UM, THAT WE DID THIS YEAR. WE HAD JUST UNDER 750 TOTAL RESPONDENTS TO OUR SIP, OUR SURVEY, WHICH DO MAKE THESE RESULTS STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ATTENDING THE FESTIVAL. WE ASKED WHAT ATTRACTED THEM TO THE FESTIVAL. AND THIS IS A QUESTION THAT WE ALSO ASKED BACK IN 2019. OVERALL, OUR RESPONSES WERE VERY SIMILAR TO 2019 WITH THE TOP RESPONSES, BEING THE BEER AND LINES ELECTION AND THE FOOD SELECTION THIS YEAR. ALTHOUGH WE DID ADD AN EXTRA OPTION, WHICH WAS THE OVERALL EXPERIENCE, WHICH WE DID NOT HAVE ON OUR 2019 SURVEY. AND THAT INSTANTLY BECAME THE TOP SELECTION BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE CONSTANTLY HEAR IS THAT THEY'RE NOT AS OKTOBERFEST FOR ONE PARTICULAR REASON, BUT RATHER THE CUMULATIVE EXPERIENCE THAT THEY GET, THE FOOD, THE GAMES, THE ACTIVITIES, THE MUSIC, AND THE OVERALL VIBE. WE ALSO ASK OUR ATTENDEES AT EVERY EVENT TO RATE THEIR OVERALL EXPERIENCE. IT GIVES US A GOOD GAUGE THAT WE CAN COMPARE YEAR TO YEAR TO SEE HOW WE'RE DOING. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE JUST UNDER 75%, BRITA IS EXCELLENT. THAT'S ACTUALLY 7% HIGHER THAN RATED US EXCELLENT. IN 2019, UM, ABOVE AVERAGE AND AVERAGE CUMULATIVELY WE'RE 7% LOWER. SO WHAT WE SAW WAS THAT THOSE WHO PREVIOUSLY WERE RATING US AS AVERAGE OR ABOVE AVERAGE, HAD MOVED THIS UP TO THE EXCELLENT CATEGORY THIS YEAR. AND OUR RANKINGS UP BELOW AVERAGE OR POOR ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL TO WHAT WE HAD IN 2019, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 1% OF THE RESPONDENTS. AS WE LOOK AHEAD TO 2022, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEW PARTY HALL LAYOUT THAT WE HAD THIS YEAR. THAT WAS A GREAT ENHANCEMENT. WE RECEIVED GREAT FEEDBACK FROM VENDORS, FROM YOU ALL FROM OUR ATTENDEES. AND SO WE DO PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT LAYOUT. AGAIN, WE WILL BE EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF FOOD CONCESSIONAIRES THAT WE WILL HAVE IN THE PARK THIS YEAR, PARTICULARLY WITH AN EMPHASIS ON GERMAN FOOD. WE ACTUALLY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE MORE THAN WE DID THIS YEAR. HOWEVER, WITH ALL OF THE THINGS GOING ON, WE HAD SEVERAL CANCELLATIONS IN THE MONTH, JUST PRIOR TO OCTOBER FEST, SOME VENDORS WHO COULDN'T SOURCE THE NECESSARY SUPPLIES VENDORS WHO COULDN'T OBTAIN THE NECESSARY STAFFING. AND SO WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING MORE FOOD OPTIONS AT THE FESTIVAL NEXT YEAR. WE'RE ALSO ALREADY WORKING ON IDEAS WITH OUR MARKETING TEAM TO ATTRACT FIRST TIME VISITORS AND TO JUST HELP PEOPLE WHO PERHAPS MIGHT THINK THAT OKTOBERFEST REQUIRES YOU TO BE A DIE HARD GERMAN CULTURE, A FICTION NATTO, TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS REALLY OPEN TO EVERYONE AND ATTRACT MORE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING HERE TO TEXAS FROM OTHER AREAS, AND DON'T HAVE A HISTORY WITH US. AND THEN FINALLY, WE'RE EXCITED THAT 2022 WILL BE THE 35TH ADDISON OCTOBER FEST. SO WE'LL BE WORKING ON SOME UNIQUE MERCHANDISE AND SOME SPECIAL ACTIVITIES TO HELP CELEBRATE THE 35TH ADDISON OKTOBERFEST. AND NOW, [03:25:01] IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I HAD A GREAT TIME TO GO FAST TWICE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, UH, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T TO QUIET AGAIN. THEN HE TURNED OFF THE FAUCET , BUT NEXT TIME I'LL NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN, BUT I HAVE ONE COMMENT, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE TRUCK, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY PRICE IT. THEY TRIED TO $16 FOR SMOKING. EVEN ONCE PRESIDENT STAY FAIR, I JUST DON'T GET IT. YOU KNOW? SO, UH, THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT BECAUSE I LOVE TALKING $16 IS ALL WAY TOO MUCH. THAT'S MY 2 CENTS. MY ONLY COMMENT WAS I LIKED THE TURKEY LEG AND I PAID WHATEVER THEY CALL IT. LIKE, I REALLY LIKED THE NEW LIFE. THAT'S ANOTHER ONE. I JUST LIKE, IT FEELS BETTER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS. I LIKED IT WHERE THERE'S OPEN SIDES, KIND OF. SO KUDOS TO YOU GUYS FOR THAT. I MEAN, IT WAS A GREAT EVENT, SO THANK YOU. SO I'M WONDERING IF, UH, STAY WITH THE OPEN CARDS, BUT THINK ABOUT THOSE BIG ONES, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE MOVE A TON OF AIR AND THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE JUST BEING BLOWN ON. IT'S AMAZING WHAT YOU CAN DO IF YOU, IF THAT WORKS OUT STRUCTURALLY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. I DIDN'T ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT. THE OTHER THING IS, UM, THERE THERE'S SOME HABITUALLY, UH, UH, POPULAR, UH, PLACES I THINK ABOUT THE GENTLEMAN POTATOES AND STRU, OF COURSE, THAT'S WHERE I GO. UM, AND I, IT LOOKS AT LIKE, UM, AND, AND SO, UH, SO ARE WE BIG BLIND SARAH? AND SO I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A CAPACITY ISSUE OR IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO, UH, YOU MENTIONED IN THAT STRUCK ME BRING MORE GERMAN OPTIONS, BUT I MEAN, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, UH, MY OBSERVATIONS AND THERE'S ALWAYS A FEW, A COUPLE OF THOSE, MAYBE WE GET SOME CAPACITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING WITH A VENDOR THAT SELLS THE STREET A LITTLE ABOUT A SECOND LOCATION WITHIN THE FESTIVAL. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME OPTIONS TO EXPAND THAT AND BE ABLE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CAPACITY THIS YEAR WITH CROWN PLAZA, NO LONGER BEING INVOLVED. UM, AND, AND WITH THE CHANGE TO THE LAYOUT OF THE PARTY HALL, WHAT USED TO BE THAT GIANT FOOD COURT INSIDE INSTEAD TURNED INTO MULTIPLE SMALLER VENDORS. AND SO, AS WE WERE ABLE TO SEE HOW THAT WORKED IN ACTUAL OPERATION, WE CAN NOW MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO BETTER DETERMINE WHERE THE CROWDS GO, BUT I'LL TELL YOU THAT OUR FOOD VENDORS WERE ECSTATIC BECAUSE THE REVENUE IS THAT USED TO GO TO GROUND FLAWS OVER SPREAD AMONGST THE OTHER VENDORS. AND SO WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME VENDORS THAT SOLD TWICE OR THREE TIMES AS MUCH PRODUCT THIS YEAR AS THEY DID IN 2019. SO THEY'RE ALL VERY HAPPY AND READY TO EXPAND AND DO MORE. UM, AND THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY ALSO WORKING WITH OUR 10TH VENDOR ON EXPLORING THOSE FANS. YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE POTATO PLACE, IT TAKES A WHILE TO COOK SOME, I DON'T KNOW IT JUST PART OF IT'S THAT, BUT THERE'S MORE CAPACITY BECAUSE THAT'S A HUGE TRADE WHERE EVERYBODY THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, IT, IT JUST TURN OFF REAL QUICKLY. YEAH, I KNOW. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. UM, I LOVE THE OPEN AIR CONCEPT. I THINK EVERYBODY DID. UM, I ALSO LOVE THE, UH, THE MOBILE ORDER. I'VE USED THAT A LOT. I NOTICED OTHER PEOPLE USING IT. THAT WAS GREAT. UM, ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT MORE USAGE OF THAT. I BELIEVE. SO. I THINK PEOPLE ARE GETTING USED TO USING QR CODES. WE WITH RESTAURANTS DOING THAT MORE OFTEN, AND NOW THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH A FULL YEAR AND PEOPLE HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF IT AND THE VENDORS HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE IT, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE MORE HEAVY USE OF IT. MOVING FORWARD WITH THE FEEDBACK, WITH WHAT THE VENDORS THOUGHT ABOUT THAT WERE THEY HAPPY? DID THEY, IT'S A MIX. WE HAVE SOME VENDORS THAT REALLY LOVED IT AND THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT. SOME OF THEM COULDN'T REALLY WRAP THEIR HEAD IN IT BEFOREHAND AROUND HOW IT WOULD WORK. AND NOW HAVING ACTUALLY BEEN OUT THERE AND HAD A CHANCE TO DO IT, HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW TO MAKE IT WORK WELL. UM, [03:30:01] BECAUSE IT REALLY IS ADDING ANOTHER STAFF PERSON TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE TABLET THAT'S TAKING IN THOSE ORDERS TO MONITOR THAT. UM, BUT IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE EXTRA SALES THAT YOU CAN PULL THEM THROUGH IT. AND SOME OF THEM JUST HAD TO SEE THAT IN AN ACTION. SO, UM, WE DID REQUIRE ALL OF THE CONCESSIONAIRES, ALL OF THE FOOD CONCESSIONAIRES, NOT A BEER STAND, UM, TO SELL AT LEAST ONE ITEM THROUGH MOBILE ORDERING, BUT NOW THAT THEY'VE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE IT, SEVERAL OF THEM ARE PLANNING TO EXPAND AND DO MORE ITEMS. THAT'S TRUE. UM, THE, UM, I GUESS ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD WAS LIKE THE GOOD NEWS IN THE BAD NEWS SEEM TO BE THE SAME THING, WHICH IS YOU USE, UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF ME LOVED THAT AND PART OF ME WANTED TO GET, GET THROUGH THERE QUICKER. UM, UH, SO JUST, I KNOW YOU SAW TOO. I WAS OUT HERE THURSDAY NIGHT AND THEN SATURDAY NIGHT, BOTH NIGHTS. UM, AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I, UH, I SHARED WITH, WITH, UH, SOME STAFF THAT WAS OUT THERE, THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME CONFUSION WITH THE SERVERS. UM, THE WORDING OF THE BEER OPTIONS WERE SIMILAR AND IT WAS, SEEMED TO BE THROWING, THROWING SOME OF THE SERVERS OFF ON WHAT THEY WERE PROVIDING. UM, THE PEOPLE ORDERING THE BEER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD FEEDBACK ON THAT. I HAVE NOT HEARD ABOUT THAT WAS THIS IN THE CLOUD, JUST AT THE BUREAU, THIS WAS IN FEBRUARY. JUST SO YOU KNOW, OCTOBER, I MEAN THE VARIOUS THERE'S OKTOBERFEST MARS IN OCTOBER FEST. AND SO, RIGHT. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT CAUSED CONFUSION WITH THE SERVERS, NOT THE PEOPLE ORDERING, UM, BUT, BUT THE PEOPLE WERE SEEM TO BE HAPPY WITH WHATEVER. UM, SO, SO THANK YOU. GREAT, GREAT WORK. ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE QUESTION WE NEED TO MOVE ON. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU, ASHLEY. THANK YOU. ITEM [18. Present, Discuss and Consider Action on a Resolution Approving an Agreement with Moore Iacofano Goltsman, Inc. (MIG) for Professional Engineering Services for Conceptual Design of the Addison Beltway Drive Trail Project; Authorizing the City Manager to Execute the Agreement in an Amount Not to Exceed $65,998.00.] 18. PRESENT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACTION ON A RESOLUTION, APPROVING AN AGREEMENT AND WITH MORE IO CO-FOUNDER GOLDSMITH MIG FOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF THE AIR SYMBILITY DRIVE TRAIL PROJECT. ALSO IN THE CITY MANAGER TO ASK YOU THE AGREEMENT NOT TO EXCEED $65,998. JENNA MARY MARIN COUNCIL, JANET TIDWELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. UM, IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND TO OPEN UP THE PRESENTATION, UM, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS 18. SORRY. OKAY. THERE WE GO. OKAY. SCREEN. OKAY. THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH THAT EVEN CAME UP HERE AND REHEARSED WHILE WE WERE ON BREAK AND STUFF, THERE'S ALWAYS TECHNICAL ISSUES. UM, SO THE ITEM THAT I'M PRESENTING THIS EVENING IS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH, UM, MIG FOR THE BELTWAY DRIVE TRAIL PROJECT. IN MAY OF 2021 COUNCIL ADOPTED THE CITY-WIDE TRAILS MASTER PLAN. THE ADOPTED PLAN INCLUDED PHASE ONE RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE COMPLETED IN ZERO TO FIVE YEARS. STAFF IDENTIFIED THE PROPOSED TRAIL ALONG BELTWAY DRIVE, WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN THE PHASE ONE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE MASTER PLAN AS A PRIORITY PROJECT AND REQUESTED BUDGET FUNDS FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PROJECT. IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021, COUNCIL ADOPTED THE FYI 2022 BUDGET, WHICH INCLUDED $66,000 FOR THE BELTWAY DRIVE TRAIL PROJECT. THE SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT INCLUDED CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF THE TRAIL, UM, DEVELOPMENT OF AN OPEN SPACE PLAN FOR THE LINEAR GREEN SPACE. THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF [03:35:01] ADDISON GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF A TRAIL SIGNAGE AND WAYFINDING PLAN TO IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT COUNCIL AUTHORIZE AN AGREEMENT WITH MIG FOR THE FOLLOWING. UM, THEY WOULD PROVIDE A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF THE BELTWAY TRAIL FOR MARSHALL LANE ALL THE WAY EAST UP TO BELTLINE WHERE BELTWAY INTERSECTS BELTLINE ROAD, THEY WOULD DEVELOP A LINEAR OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN FOR THE AREAS SOUTH OF ADDISON GROVE THAT, UM, SOME REFERRED TO AS SAM'S PARK, THE PURPOSE OF THIS, UM, WOULD BE TO CONNECT THE TRAIL SYSTEM INTO THE ALISON GROVE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THE CURRENT PLAN HAS A TRAIL THAT JUST TERMINATES AT THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY OR WIDE SIDEWALKS THAT WOULD TERMINATE AT THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. UM, BUT IF YOU ALSO REMEMBER THAT OPEN SPACE WAS IMPACTED BY THE WIND STORM THAT WE HAD SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND WE LOST SOME SIGNIFICANT TREES IN THAT AREA AND THE LANDSCAPE DOES NEED TO BE REFURBISHED. UM, THIS PLAN WOULD FACILITATE ONE IN-PERSON PUBLIC INPUT MEETING AND ONE VIRTUAL MEETING WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS TOGETHER INPUT. UM, IT WOULD ALSO DEVELOP A VIRTUAL OUTREACH TOOL TO SOLICIT PUBLIC INPUT, UM, THROUGH THE PANDEMIC. WE'VE LEARNED THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS TO CAPTURE FEEDBACK FROM OUR RESIDENTS. UM, SO WE'RE COMFORTABLE ATTENDING THE MEETING AND WOULD PREFER TO DO THAT. UM, BUT SOME STILL WOULD PREFER TO, UM, PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK ONLINE. THIS PLAN WOULD DEVELOP A TRAIL SIGNAGE AND WAYFINDING PLAN TO INCLUDE TRAIL SIGNAGE STANDARDS. THESE STANDARD SIGNS WOULD BE UTILIZED ON THE BELTWAY TRAIL PROJECT AND ALL OTHER TRAIL PROJECTS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ADDISON AND THE CONSULTANT WOULD DEVELOP COST ESTIMATES TO HELP US ESTABLISH A PROJECT BUDGET AND HELP US, UM, IDENTIFY FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. THE GRAPHIC HERE SHOWS THE PHASE ONE, THE, THE LARGER VERSION SHOWS THE PHASE ONE TRAILS MASTER PLAN. UM, AND THEN THE WINDOW ON THE SIDE SHOWS AN ENLARGEMENT OF WHERE THE BELTWAY TRAIL AREA IS. UM, IT SHOWS THAT IT WOULD BEGIN AT MARSHALL LANE. IT WOULD END AT BELTLINE AND THAT THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRAIL SYSTEMS THAT ARE, UM, APPLIED TO THIS. UM, IT WOULD INCLUDE BUFFERED BIKE LANES BETWEEN MARSH LANE AND MIDWAY ROAD ON BELTWAY. IT WOULD INCLUDE A BIKE BOULEVARD BETWEEN MIDWAY ROAD AND BELTLINE ROAD. IT WOULD IDENTIFY LOCATIONS FOR A NEW WIDENED SIDEWALK WITH BUFFER, FROM WRITING TRAIL TO MIDWAY ROAD. IT WOULD IDENTIFY LOCATIONS TO INTEGRATE THE EXISTING SIDEWALK INTO THE TRAIL SYSTEM PERMIT FOR RUNNING TRAIL TO MIDWAY ROAD. UM, AND THEN IT WOULD PROVIDE LINEAR OPEN SPACE SCREENPLAY OR GREEN SPACE PLAN, WHICH WE DISCUSSED. AND IN THE, UM, TRAILWAY FRAMING STANDARDS, ONE OF THE IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF THIS PROJECT, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE RIGHT OF WAY AND WHAT THE IMPACTS OF INSTALLING THE NEW TRAIL CORRIDOR STANDARDS WOULD BE. AND IT WOULD, WE WOULD PROVIDE COUNCIL WITH CROSS SECTIONS OF WHAT THOSE IMPACTS WOULD BE TO PROPERTIES. ESPECIALLY IF YOU LOOK FROM REDDING TRAIL OVER TO MIDWAY ROAD, AND IT WOULD ALLOW COUNCIL TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK THAT PERHAPS THE EXISTING SIDEWALK IN SOME INSTANCES COULD BE INTEGRATED INTO THE TRAIL. OR THERE MAY BE SOME SITUATIONS WHERE WE FELT LIKE IT WAS A GOOD TIME FOR US TO WIDEN THAT TRAIL CORRIDOR AND PROVIDE THE BUFFERS FOR THE PLAN. AND SO A PORTION OF THIS PROJECT IS TO HAVE THAT DIALOGUE. SO THOSE DECISIONS CAN BE MADE BEFORE WE MOVED FROM CONCEPTUAL DESIGN TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. I LIKE TO POINT OUT ON THIS GRAPHIC, WE SHOW OUR PLAN TRIAL TYPOLOGIES. THIS IS FROM THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN. UM, WE MADE SOME LAST MINUTE CHANGES BEFORE SUBMITTING THIS PRESENTATION. AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO NOTE THAT WHERE IT SAYS I BOULEVARD THAT ACTUALLY SHOULD BE BUFFERED BIKE LANES. AND THEN WHERE IT SAYS BUFFER BIKE LANES, THAT SHOULD BE BIKE BOULEVARD. WE'VE GOT THOSE TWO, UM, ITEMS SWITCHED. SO I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT DISCREPANCY, BUT THE BIBLE ART IS PROPOSED BETWEEN MARSH LANE AND MIDWAY ROAD, AND THAT WOULD BE ON BELTWAY AND IT WOULD BE, UM, UH, IT'S SEPARATED ON STREET BY CORRIDORS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. AND THEN AFTER YOU CROSS THE MIDWAY, THE ROAD PROFILE GETS MORE NARROW AND THAT WOULD BE A SHARED BIKE LANE WHERE IT WOULD JUST BE STRIVED FOR USE BY BIKES, BUT THEY WOULD SHARE THE RIDE WITH AUTOMOBILES. AND THEN THE OTHER TYPE BIOLOGY THAT'S PLANNED, UM, ON THE BELTWAY TRAIL PROJECT IS TO WIDEN THE SIDEWALK AND INCLUDE A BUFFER. UM, LIKE I SAID, THESE SCENARIOS COME FROM THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN, BUT THE CONSULTANT WILL [03:40:01] GIVE US SCENARIOS TO SHOW WHAT THAT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IN REAL WORLD CONDITIONS. WHEN WE LOOK AT BELTWAY, UM, AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TRAIL, THE NEXT STEPS OF THE PROJECT. UM, IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS AGREEMENT IS THAT STAFF WOULD AUTHORIZE MIG TO PROCEED. THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN JANUARY. UM, WE WOULD BEGIN PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT STRATEGIES AND FEBRUARY, AND THEN WE HAVE ASKED MIG TO PROVIDE A ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE. UM, SO WE CAN INCLUDE THAT COST INFORMATION REQUEST AND THE 2022 OR 2023 BUDGET PROCESS, UM, THAT WOULD JUST BE FOR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, NOT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TRAIL. UM, DURING THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT, WE WOULD ALSO MAKE PROGRESS PRESENTATIONS TO COUNCIL. UM, IN JUNE OF 2022, ALL SCOPE ITEMS ARE PROJECTED TO BE COMPLETED. AND THEN IN JULY OF 2022, STAFF WILL BEGIN IDENTIFYING FUNDING, OPPOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRAIL IMPLEMENTATION. FOR EXAMPLE, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE HAS A TRAILS GRANT, UM, THAT THERE MAY BE SOME POSSIBILITY FOR US TO APPLY FOR THEIR DEADLINE IS USUALLY FEBRUARY 1ST. SO, UM, WE WOULD START DEVELOPING WHAT THOSE STRATEGIES ARE. SOMETIMES THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT HAS SOME TRAIL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. SO WE WOULD START IDENTIFYING THOSE AND USING THE INFORMATION THAT'S DEVELOPED, UM, THROUGH CONCEPTUAL DESIGN TO APPLY FOR THOSE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. AND THEN, UM, OCTOBER, 2022 STAFF BRINGS THE CONTRACT TO COUNCIL FOR COMPLETION OF THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THE BELTWAY TRAIL PROJECT, IF THE FUNDS ARE APPROVED. SO ONE THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS ALTHOUGH WE ARE LOOKING FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, UM, WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE FUNDS TO BUILD THE TRAIL PROJECT, BUT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN THIS PROCESS WILL HELP GIVE US SOME OF THOSE DETAILS THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH MONEY WE NEED TO BUILD THE TRAIL. AND WITHOUT I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. YEAH, I'M GLAD THEY DID IT. YOU CLARIFIED THE BIKE. IT WAS REVERSE THAT IDEA THAT, SO THE, THE GREEN PAINT OR THERMOPLASTIC APPLICATIONS IN CONFLICT THEORY, CAPITAL TALKED ABOUT THAT PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH THIS. AND SO IS, UM, HOW, HOW IS HE SET TO MAINTAIN AROUND ME? CAUSE THE RECESSION CARS GOING OVER THAT OR AGE, THINGS LIKE THAT, IT'S, IT'S MORE GAS, WHICH IS GONNA WEAR ON THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE LONGEVITY OF WHATEVER YOU PUT DOWN A PAIN OR A POXY OR COMBINATION ABOUT THE WHATEVER. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT. SURE. AND THOSE DECISIONS ARE PART OF THE INFORMATION THAT WHILE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS TO DETERMINE THE MATERIALS THAT WE ACTUALLY USE FOR THOSE BIPLANES. BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS PLASTIC PAINT, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN AND WE WILL HAVE TO BUDGET TO MAINTAIN IT. AND IT WILL FALL JUST IN LINE WITH HOW WE MAINTAIN OUR CROSSWALKS AND THOSE ELEMENTS. UM, ONE OF THE IMPORTANT STAKEHOLDERS THAT THE SCOPE MENTIONED ON THIS, UM, PROJECT WILL BE OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME VERY STRONG OPINIONS IS GOING ON THEIR ROADWAY. UM, AND THEY HAVE SOME IDEAS FOR WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW THAT SHOULD BE MAINTAINED. AND THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THIS RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE BRING TO COUNCIL AND, AND MAINTENANCE WILL BE ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. AND WHEN QUICK QUESTION ON THE SAM'S CORK AREA. SO IS IT, IS THAT YOUR VISION ASIAN CONCEPT PATIENT HERE THAT THE, UH, TRAIL SLASH SIDEWALK COMES OFF OF BELTWAY AND MOVES TOWARDS THE TOWN HOMES, ET CETERA, IN THE GREEN SPACE THERE, THAT THAT WAS ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IS WE CAN, THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE COULD APPLY THAT TRAIL BUFFER THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS GRAPHIC WHERE WE CAN PULL THE TRAIL OFF OF THE BACK OF THE CURB, BUT THE SIDEWALK THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW, IT'S RIGHT ON THE BACK OF THE CURB. UM, WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES WHILE WE'RE REFERRED, REFRESHING THE SCREEN SPACE AREA TO HAVE THAT TRAIL ACTUALLY MEANDER THROUGH THE GREEN SPACE. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT KIND OF STRAIGHT [03:45:01] SHOT, BUT IT IS RIGHT NOW. UM, WE CAN PROVIDE SOME MORE INTEREST AND THEN, UM, IT'S OUR VISION THAT THE TRAIL WOULD CONNECT UP INTO THE SIDEWALKS THAT TERMINATED THE EDGE OF THE ADDISON GROVE PROPERTY, WHERE, UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE FIVE NEW PARKS OR, OR THREE PARKS AND TWO PARKLETS IN THAT PROPERTY. AND THAT CONNECTION WILL ALLOW RESIDENTS THAT LIVE SOUTH OF BELTWAY TO BE ABLE TO, UM, OR RIGHT OFF THE BELTWAY TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THOSE PARKS, USE THOSE AMENITIES THAT ARE PART OF ADDISON GROWTH, BUT THIS IS A FACT-FINDING MISSION. UM, BUT THAT'S OUR INITIAL VISION. IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE TRAVEL WEEK, PROBABLY WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BE CONSTRUCTING STUFF TILL 2024, IF WE'RE INCLUDING GRANT FUNDS, UM, THE EARLIEST THAT WE COULD BEGIN CONSTRUCTING THE PROJECT WOULD BE 20, 24. IF WE'RE GOING AFTER GRANT FUNDING AT LEAST TWO, ONE YEARS. ALRIGHT, I HAVE A QUESTION, JACK, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE AIR TO THE SECTION BETWEEN THE TRAIL AND TO THE WEST? WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT THIS COMPONENT SIDE, SOUTH SIDE? SO THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIES THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A BIKE BOULEVARD, UM, ON STREET AND THEN THE BIKE BOULEVARD WOULD PROBABLY BE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. SO INSTEAD OF A TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK, YOU WOULD HAVE TRAFFIC ON BOTH SIDES FOR THE BIKE LANES. WHEN YOU GET TO THE RUNNING TRAIL, THERE'S ALREADY A VERY ROBUST PATH SYSTEM THAT GETS YOU ALL THE WAY FROM WRITING TRAIL TO MIDWAY ROAD. SO AT THAT POINT WE WOULDN'T HAVE WIDENED SIDEWALKS INTEGRATED INTO THE PROJECT THAT IT WOULD JUST CONNECT INTO OUR EXISTING SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE. SO AS WE GO ON FRONT OF THE ATHLETIC CLUB, YES, THAT LOOKS LIKE A CHALLENGING AREA BECAUSE OF THE PARKING ACROSS THE STREET, CROSSWALK THE ENTRANCE TO THE, TO THE CLUB ITSELF. THERE, THERE WILL BE CHALLENGES ON THIS PROJECT AND YOU ARE RIGHT THAT THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET, IT DOESN'T HAVE AS MANY DRIVE APPROACHES AND IT IS AN EASIER ONE TO INTEGRATE THE BIKE LANES ONTO, UM, MIG DOES HAVE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER THAT WILL BE A PART OF THIS PROJECT THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH US ON MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS OF HOW WE ADDRESS THOSE CONFLICT AREAS. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT TOO, IS THAT THIS IS CONCEPTUAL RIGHT NOW. AND SO IF YOU, THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK, UH, ET CETERA, AND JUST LOOKING AT WHAT CONSTRAINTS THERE ARE, THINGS HAVE TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT. SO INSTEAD OF A BIKE BOULEVARD, IT'S A BUFFER OR NOT WHATEVER, THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TO BE DEVELOPED AND BE HASHED OUT. IT MAY NOT BE TOO TOMORROW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OR CONTEMPLATING TODAY, SO THAT I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL WORK TO TRY TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN FIND SOMETHING THAT'S WORKABLE. ALL RIGHT, WELL QUESTION, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM? WE ARE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM PRESENTING. SO I'M MOTION GQ. SECOND, PAUL WATER, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. ITEM [19. Consider Action on a Resolution Approving the Town's Participation in the State of Texas' Opioid Litigation Settlement and Adopting the Texas Term Sheet. ] 19 CONSIDERED ACTION ON THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE TALENTS OF THIS PATIENT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS OPIOID LITIGATION SETTLEMENT AND ADOPTING THE TEXAS TERM SHEET. NO GOOD EVENING. MAYOR COUNCIL AND BILL HOLLY DIRECTOR ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. SO THE STATE OF TEXAS AND OTHER STATES FILED LAWSUITS ALLEGING THAT CERTAIN PHARMACEUTICAL MANUFACTURERS AND DISTRIBUTORS ENGAGED IN BEHAVIORS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE OPIOID DEPENDENCE AND CRISIS IN OUR COUNTRY. UH, THE STATES HAVE NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENTS TO RECOVER COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH BATTLING THE OPIOID CRISIS. AS IT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN TEXAS AS SETTLEMENTS, UH, THE TOWN WILL BE AWARDED AN ESTIMATED $58,000. IT COULD BE USED TO, [03:50:01] UH, FOR DEFY AND PURPOSES, SUCH AS FIRST RESPONDER TRAINING AND SUPPLIES, UH, OPIOID EDUCATION, BRIDGE AND EFFORTS AND NUMBER OF OTHER, UH, TYPE ACTIVITIES. SO A RESOLUTION IS REQUIRED TO SIGNIFY ADDISON'S DESIRE TO JOIN THE TEXAS SETTLEMENT AND SAP RECOMMENDS APPROVING THE, PROVIDE THE RESOLUTION. SO, SO THIS IS THE MONEY WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE $50,094. SO THIS NO REASON WE DON'T TAKE HIM. YOU UNDERSTAND? SO DO I HAVE MOTION, MOTION, MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. THE LAST [ EXECUTIVE SESSION Closed (Executive) Session of the Addison City Council pursuant to: Section 551.071, Tex. Gov. Code, to conduct a private consultation with its attorney pertaining to: Bigelow Arizona TX-344, Limited Partnership D/B/A Suites of America and/or Budget Suites of America v. Town of Addison, Cause No. DC-19-09630, 191st Judicial District, Dallas County District Court. G J Seeding, LLC v. FNH Construction, LLC and Hudson Insurance Company, Cause No. DC-20-11409, 134th Judicial District, Dallas County, Texas. Section 551.074, Tex. Gov. Code, to deliberate the appointment, employment, evaluation, reassignment, duties, discipline or dismissal of a public officer or employee, pertaining to: City Manager's Annual Evaluation] ITEM WE NEED TO GO BACK TO SESSION FOUR UPDATES, EXECUTIVE SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL PRIVATE CONSULTATION, ATTORNEY ATTENDING DBA SUITES OR BY THE SUITES OF AMERICA. WHAT'S THE NUMBER? 9 6 3 0 1 90 FIRST DISTRICT DISTRICT SEVEN, ONE EDGE CONSTRUCTION. THEY ALL SEE HOSSAIN INSURANCE COST. NUMBER OF DC QUANTITY LONG LENS WAS 34TH. JUDICIAL DISTRICT THAT WAS COVERED IN TEXAS RIGHT NOW IS 11:25 PM. WELL, EXECUTIVE SESSION 1217, [ Reconvene in to Regular Session: In accordance with Texas Government Code, Chapter 551, the City Council will reconvene into Regular Session to consider action, if any, on matters discussed in Executive Session.] HEY, AN ACCIDENT TEAM, THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO THERE'S NO ACTION, PEGA AND MEANINGLESS. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.